=== Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad === interalia [n=interali@adsl-60-232.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #launchpad === alexandros_se [n=alex@2-1-1-18a.spa.sth.bostream.se] has left #launchpad ["Lmnar"] === tambaqui [n=tambaqui@200.231.242.21] has joined #launchpad === tambaqui [n=tambaqui@200.231.242.21] has left #launchpad [] === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad === kbrooks [n=kbrooks@unaffiliated/kbrooks] has joined #launchpad [02:17] HOW do I remove a release? [02:19] i don't think you can, lp doesnt support remving stuff to the best of my knowlage [02:19] kgoetz: "stuff"? [02:19] kbrooks: almost anything thta you might what to remove === spiv [n=andrew@adsl-66-203.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #launchpad === daf [i=daf@muse.19inch.net] has left #launchpad [] === changlinn [n=mog@61.8.117.101] has joined #launchpad [03:09] hello everyone, gotta problem signing up, it never sends me the email. [03:10] ISP spam filters? [03:10] nup, my own mail server, and I have yet to install any... [03:11] checked your server logs?.... hm. i don't know what you need then tbh. [03:12] I have blacklists.org setup and a couple other blacklists... === jinty [n=jinty@134.Red-83-49-51.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [03:33] what mail server should it come from? [03:33] um. i'll try and find mine [03:34] thanx [03:34] my email validation email is from bounces@canonical.com. i'll check for my original email to be sure [03:35] it's from "the launchpad team" noreply@canonical.com [04:12] lifeless: would you mind reviewing https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/file8ZkgAR.html? I think it's sane, but double-checking would be appreciated. This fixes test failures with current bzr.dev. [04:16] bug 29884 [04:16] Malone bug 29884 in ept "[dapper] Adept crashes when selecting "remove package" via right-click" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29884 [04:16] bug 39884 [04:16] Malone bug 39884 in launchpad "test_branchtomirror tests disabled." [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39884 [04:18] yes, mailed you a review [04:18] Thanks [04:19] Btw, I generally expect to find work mail sent to my @canonical.com address :) [04:19] uhm, I type andrew b in and let evo sort it out === lakin_ [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad [04:19] do they go to different places ? [04:20] Different folders, yeah. [04:20] Not a huge issue, but I don't tend to look at personal mail at much while working. === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.4.123.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@134.Red-83-49-51.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #launchpad [05:31] Gooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! [05:33] hi mpt [05:37] good afternoon mpt, how are you today? === lakin_ [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #launchpad === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.4.123.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #launchpad === womble [n=mpalmer@106.135.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #launchpad === jsgotangco [n=jsg@125.212.127.151] has joined #launchpad === dsas [n=dean@host86-128-54-253.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #launchpad [08:06] lifeless: ping [08:07] pong [08:08] lifeless: A couple of things... did you get my mail confirming that that Twisted merge is safe? [08:08] spiv: nope, got salgados [08:09] Ah, I wonder where that went. Anyway, I ran make check_merge locally, and it all passed. [08:09] wheres the branch with it in ? [08:11] I think it's only in patch form atm. [08:12] please fix kthnx [08:12] its a nuisance in patch form [08:12] Sure. [08:12] and the other ? [08:12] I also sent a mail with yet another odd failure from pqm, this time trying to merge into SQLObject. [08:13] (which I want to do so I can merge buildbot, so I can merge the re-enable sourcecode checks...) [08:13] you did ? [08:13] Can anyone recommend a decent python parser generator? [08:14] lifeless: "Subject: Merge to SQLObject fails [pqm@canonical.com: failure] " [08:14] do you mean 'a parser generator written in python' or 'a generator of parsers whose implementation is in python' [08:14] spiv: I have no mail from you [08:14] lifeless: In the wee hours of May 6th. [08:14] lifeless: the latter [08:14] lifeless: How odd. [08:16] lifeless: my local mail queue is empty, and the one about the Twisted merge was CCed to the launchpad list and reached that ok. [08:17] lifeless: I mailed them to robert.collins@ canonical. [08:17] found them [08:17] to simulate the sqlobject failure locally [08:18] make -C ../.. check_merge [08:18] run that from the sqlobject dir [08:18] Ah, is that what it does? Thanks. [08:18] (thats in the email that is sent to you) [08:18] All lines of log output: [08:18] Executing pre-commit hook make -C ../.. check_merge at Fri May 5 12:57:36 2006 [08:18] Ah, yes. [08:18] I somehow missed that bit :( [08:19] My eyes for some reason didn't expect to find a command line in the middle of that line. [08:19] Which is probably more a bug in my eyes than in PQM :) [08:20] Ok, I'll see if I can fix that. Thanks. === jinty [n=jinty@94.Red-83-49-50.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === womble [n=mpalmer@106.135.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #launchpad ["Oooh!] [08:56] morning [08:57] spiv: i used spark before [08:57] i think it was called spark [08:58] http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~aycock/spark/ [08:58] SteveA: I think you mean stub? [08:58] was stub asking about CCs ? === SteveA reads scrollback again [08:59] Shh.... I'm trying to sleep [09:00] Would you trust software written by a cock? [09:00] I'll have a look - might be suitable. [09:01] what do you need to parse ? [09:01] and is it performance critical ? [09:01] If its not, I usually use recursive descent with an interpreter as its much easier to understand and debug [09:02] lifeless: compared to spark? [09:02] lifeless: The text search query parser is currently a collection of regexps, which works fine but we keep tripping over edge cases. [09:03] SteveA: parser generators typically generate shift-reduce table parsers [09:03] SteveA: which are a pillock to debug [09:03] A tokenizer would probably be good enough === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@175.Red-88-9-38.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [09:19] morning [09:24] mpt__: ping [09:24] hello carlos [09:25] carlos: we should talk with kiko this afternoon [09:25] jamesh: hi. i'd like to have a voice call with you today. [09:25] yeah, I didn't talk with kiko last Friday so I didn't arrange the meeting.... [09:25] SteveA: I will do as soon as he wakes up [09:26] carlos: great [09:27] stub, spiv: what did you agree between you about authserver cacheing? [09:30] SteveA: That it's low priority now that downtime for rollouts is generally much smaller. [09:30] spiv: it is still "essential" in the spec tracker [09:30] The same idea will still be useful for redundancy, though. [09:30] https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+spec/auth-server-caching [09:31] please change the priority, and note why in the status whiteboard [09:31] Ok. [09:31] hmm... looking at the spec tracker menu, it seems we have a new CEO [09:31] it says "* Mark Superseded" === frodon_ido [n=patrick@ip-213-49-208-78.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #launchpad [09:42] jamesh: ping [09:43] SteveA: pong. [09:43] hi [09:43] skype talk? [09:43] okay [09:44] morning all [09:44] hello sivan [09:45] Labas SteveA === mpt [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #launchpad [09:59] spiv, have five minutes spare for a review? [09:59] or jamesh? [10:00] mpt: Ok. [10:00] mpt: I hope it's not as controversial as the last one :) [10:01] Actually, it's fixing a boo-boo from the last one :-) [10:01] https://chinstrap.warthogs.hbd.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileJIxqtN.html [10:02] (It was rather disappointing to be having to defend the idea that something that fails a lot of the time is a bug...) [10:04] labas sivanai [10:07] spiv, the intent here is to fix bug 39312 (if you scroll horizontally to the point where the lines diverge, you'll see see the ~20-character diff), fix bug 43261 (by making the advanced search form use standard Launchpad markup), and make Rosetta's "[tab] " translation a little more understandable [10:07] Malone bug 39312 in launchpad "Launchpad pages grab focus when they finish loading" [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39312 [10:07] Malone bug 43261 in launchpad "Advanced search page lacks style sheet." [Major,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43261 [10:09] mpt: oh, so #39312 behaviour is our fault?? I thought it was a firefox problem! [10:09] carlos, well arguably browsers should ignore that JavaScript function anyway [10:10] in Dapper Firefox it just causes the taskbar button to throb, which isn't as bad [10:10] but that might be an Ian Jackson Special [10:10] mpt: amusingly enough, highlighting the changed text in that line in epiphany reveals another browser bug ;) [10:11] spiv, and trying to edit that JavaScript with syntax highlighting on caused gedit to hang [10:11] the script is cursed, I tell ya [10:12] mpt: yeah, I'd argue that javascript functions should only be allowed to change the focus within the browser viewport, not outside that, and certainly not the window itself. [10:12] yep [10:12] But until all browser implementors think the way I do... [10:12] (oh what a happy day that would be!) [10:13] "/* if(config.setFocus || true)config.frames.popups.focus();*/" [10:13] in the Mozilla 0.8/0.9 days there was a very annoying and very persistent bug where sometimes the layout engine would cause a window to jump to the front [10:13] Why add the || true as well as commenting it out? [10:13] That was a carnival of fury -- some people thought it was intentional, some thought it should be configurable, some people said "there shouldn't be any code in Mozilla that layers windows AT ALL" [10:14] spiv, hmmm, I don't know -- that's what the volunteer contributor did [10:14] I'll remove the || true [10:14] Ah, presumably debugging cruft. [10:15] Is it safe for me to assume that's the only change on this line? [10:15] yes [10:16] So there's a bunch of changes to a search form here that seem for more complicated than a simple reinstatement of a stylesheet. [10:16] Yes, it is more complicated [10:17] because I'm changing it to use

instead of custom-styled s [10:17] Remember before how it was all grey? Nice grey, but inconsistent with the rest of LP [10:18] Yeah, I followed the links on the bug report :) [10:19] Ok, this looks fine to me. [10:19] I haven't gotten rid of all the cruft, just enough to get it looking good again [10:19] I don't know why that javascript ever had a focus() call in it, that's just silly for a menu. [10:20] yeah [10:20] Anyway, r=spiv. [10:20] thanks! [10:20] spiv: hi. jamesh and i were just talking about james' current work on the authserver code [10:21] i proposed that he put his work-in-progress up for review by you, so you can take a quick look over it while you're still around this week [10:21] Sounds like a good idea. === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #launchpad [] [10:55] ah, its the jojo boss :0 [10:58] jojo, or yoyo? === ploum [n=ploum@ubuntu/member/ploum] has joined #launchpad [10:59] mpt: yes [10:59] i want to buy a printer. any recommendations for a colour inkjet kinda thing, compact dimensions? [11:00] hp ones have good linux support [11:00] i don't think the particular model matters much [11:00] cool, thanks [11:00] if you don't need colour, spend a little extra on a laser [11:01] there's a web site - linuxprinting.org [11:01] you'll save on ink in the long run (especially if you don't print very often) [11:01] but in general hp are a good deal [11:01] jamesh: "black gold" :-) [11:01] jamesh: especially if i *don't* print very often? [11:01] even if you do need colout [11:02] SteveA: yeah. the ink in the nozzles on inkjet cartridges can dry up if you don't print often enough [11:02] spend a little more and get a laser [11:02] so you end up having to replace the cartridge early [11:02] the single pass lasers are -really- nice [11:03] "do not expose your hp LaserJet to flame" (actual quote from manual) [11:03] oh man [11:03] a laserjet II, that would survive a fire [11:03] mpool, is that a reference to the old error message in lp(1), "printer is on fire"? [11:03] it may well be [11:03] they do sometimes have a dry sense of humour [11:04] lifeless: actuall V Joshi, the VP of that group, made a point at a large meeting once by standing on a LaserJet that they are unnecessarily overengineered [11:04] http://www.eeggs.com/items/1037.html [11:04] most customers actually will not pay more for a printer that can bear someone's weight [11:05] indeed [11:08] spiv: got that branch for me ? [11:08] most offices want a photocopier that an bear someone's weight [11:08] for office parties [11:08] s/want/need/ [11:09] in case they decide to bare their weighty arse [11:09] heh, you know there's probably an engineering requirement spec item about that [11:09] and a calculation of the dynamic load of a 90th-percentile drunk mail climbing onto a copier... [11:09] you mean an ISO standard arse? [11:10] to go with the ISO standard finger [11:10] Must withstand a pressure of 0.05 dpi (derri?res per inch) [11:11] and other ISO standard body parts [11:11] the finger is used to check for electrical safety among other things [11:11] far thinner and more manouverable than a real finger [11:11] my elec eng ex-housemate had a Test Finger [11:12] ugh === mpt has a failure in person.txt which seems completely unrelated to his changes === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-080-023.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad [11:30] is there a way to send an email to somebody registered in launchpad? [11:31] mpt: stick it in a paste-bin and let me look at it, if you want. [11:31] doko: not using launchpad. if they have chosen so, you can log in, see their email, then mail them === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #launchpad [] [11:34] Merge to devel/launchpad/: [r=lifeless] Update tests to be compatible with bzr 0.8. (r3539: Andrew Bennetts) [11:41] 19 conflicts! === mpt shakes his fist at bradb === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=ddaa@ordo.xlii.org] has joined #launchpad === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@wservices.ch] has joined #launchpad [11:57] hi [11:59] is there any possibility to add a comment or suggest an improvement of a spec on launchpad? [12:00] lucasvo: sure, in the wiki [12:00] sabdfl: it says "Locked page" [12:00] lucasvo: not sure why that is [12:00] ah, yes, how about LP & commercial software? [12:00] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EmbeddedUbuntu [12:01] is it possible to have private specs, private branches and so on? [12:02] lucasvo: yes for bugs, not yet specs or branches [12:02] ok [12:02] sabdfl: when will that come? [12:02] lucasvo: it's not a huge priority, we want to get the public aspects working well first [12:02] we needed private bugs to deal with security issues [12:02] so bradb did that early [12:02] ok [12:03] but private specs and branches are less important right now [12:07] hi sabdfl [12:08] hey kgoetz :) [12:09] hi sivang :) [12:09] kgoetz: thank_you^3 :-) === kgoetz turns back to hubackup bug. brb === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #launchpad [12:16] hiya kgoetz === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [12:35] jordi: hi, around? === richips [n=richi@57.Red-88-3-167.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [12:46] hi all [12:49] hi === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-238-159.nr.ip.pt] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #launchpad [01:02] lifeless: meeting time? [01:04] yup [01:05] reviewer meeting time [01:05] lifeless: I'm doing a pending-reviews run now with the extra column [01:05] jamesh: ping [01:05] spiv: ping [01:05] pong [01:05] pong [01:05] BjornT: ping [01:05] SteveA: ping [01:05] hi [01:05] hi guys [01:05] lifeless: pong? [01:05] gimme just a second to setup the file for the meeting [01:08] hi BjornT. holiday today? [01:08] agenda today [01:08] * Roll call [01:08] * Agenda [01:08] * Next meeting [01:08] * Queue status. [01:08] * Ensuring reviews [and subsequent discussion] are visible. (SteveA) [01:08] * Dealing with reviews that go off the tracks and sit unreviewed for ages. (SteveA) [01:08] mpt: ping [01:09] those I have just pung, if you are here for the meeting, please say aye or similar [01:09] SteveA: yeah, it's a public holiday today [01:09] if you are not here for the meeting, say nay. [01:09] aye [01:09] aye [01:09] aye [01:09] aye [01:10] cool [01:10] next meeting : 2006-05-15 at 1100 UTC. ok ? [01:10] sure [01:11] sure (depending on jury duty) [01:11] okay [01:11] nay [01:11] ok [01:12] queue status [01:12] oldest unaccounted for branch is 4 days [01:12] with BjornT [01:12] i'll review it tomorrow [01:13] oldest in needs-reply is salgado/launchpad/shipit-for-dapper [01:13] spiv: any idea whats got that held up ? [01:13] lifeless: I have email about that somewhere, I'll dig it up... [01:13] SteveA: you made a typo on the wiki page : needs-relpy [01:14] opos [01:14] SteveA: I'm fixing that now [01:14] ta [01:14] [it breaks the status grouping on pending-reviews] [01:14] i was obviously thinking of the blonde french actress julie delpy [01:14] :) [01:15] lifeless: "Right, this branch wasn't quite ready for review yet," ... "Please don't review this branch again, as there's some issues you pointed here, that aren't solved ..." [01:15] Hmm, I think such branches should be taken out of the system [01:15] and put back in fresh when they *are* ready. [01:15] lifeless: basically, it was a work-in-progress branch, salgado put it up for early review. [01:15] what do you you reviewers think ? [01:16] I think that's a good policy, I don't think it's benefitting anyone having it cluttering up the review queue pages. [01:16] well [01:16] it can be nice to see works in progress. but i have a different suggestion [01:16] what if we have a "work in progress" page, as a separate page [01:16] and people can put works in progress there [01:17] have a "doesn't-need-review-yet" state? [01:17] and an equivalent script to jamesh's one can produce diffs for it [01:17] so pointy-haired bosses like me can see what's going on more easily === qqqtas [n=a@a3.krak.tke.pl] has joined #launchpad [01:17] SteveA: I'm wearing a wig right now :) [01:17] that way, the reviews page stays clear, but we get a place for "this is in progress" [01:18] So, we have several options [01:18] a new page === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [01:18] a different classifier, but on the same page [01:18] stop tracking the branch altogether [01:18] Hemp Gru joint [01:19] I think putting them on the same page, but as 'Under development' status would work === mode/#launchpad [+o SteveA] by ChanServ [01:19] That could be sorted down the bottom by pending-reviews [01:19] for a "my branches" page, i'd want to edit it organized by person, not by reviewer [01:19] would not need to be in any reviewers queue (just have the top most section of the wiki page list 'under development' branches [01:20] only when it is pending review would i want it to be in a reviewers' queue [01:20] SteveA: agreed. [01:20] SteveA: it seems conceptually easier to me to have a single 'these are the branches' page, with branches moving around there, than to have two pages and be forever copy and pasting between them [01:21] of course, all this should be in launchpad before *too* long [01:21] of course [01:21] sure, let's try adding to the same page [01:21] so, the simplest action right now, is 'stop tracking the branch' [01:21] on the basis that lp should be doing that [01:22] alright, that sounds fine to me. jamesh - I guess we'll want a status like 'in-development' ? [01:22] lifeless: yeah. that or in-progress or work-in-progress [01:22] whatever people prefer [01:22] jamesh: pick one :) [01:23] I like "work-in-progress" [01:23] work-in-progress it is [01:23] lifeless: would you move the current branch that is in development to the place you think it should be in that page, then jamesh can make his script accommodate [01:23] SteveA: yep [01:24] lifeless: if you stick it in its own section, it won't get assigned to any reviewer in the summary page [01:24] jamesh: yes, I'll be adding a new section at the top [01:24] titles 'Works in progress' [01:24] * Ensuring reviews [and subsequent discussion] are visible. (SteveA) [01:24] SteveA: care to introduce this [01:24] sure [01:24] carlos: hello [01:24] jordi: hi [01:24] sometimes, someone has mailed or asked on irc privately to a reviewer for a review. [01:25] i know i've done this [01:25] asking privately for a review isn't a problem at all [01:25] jordi: what needs to be done to reject/import the templates at https://launchpad.net/rosetta/imports/+index?status=NEEDS_REVIEW&type=pot ? [01:25] but, the review itself, if it is more than "great, r=me" or "write some goddamn tests and ask me again", needs to be on the reviews mailing list [01:26] otherwise, what often happens is, the email goes back and forth, and the cc list grows [01:26] and we end up with just some people knowing about what's going on [01:26] this is like a water cooler discussion [01:26] that ends up with 5 people rather than 2 [01:27] so, i ask reviewers to always reply to emails about reviews onto the reviews list [01:27] carlos: there's different stories involved. Some of them I can remove in the evening, as I haven't got any reply, others are new, still bogus (gaim; wordpress, again) === mode/#launchpad [-o SteveA] by SteveA [01:27] schooltool for example is pending me doing a merge of old branch po files with new pot file on the new series [01:27] SteveA: What about reviews that are conversations on IRC -- should they be copied&pasted/summarised to email, or perhaps go straight to email in the first place? [01:28] lifeless: now that 0.8 is out, when is launchpad switching to knits? [01:28] carlos: I'll clear the list entirely in the evening [01:28] ship it is 100% free and no spam ?? [01:28] maybe a small summary email? [01:28] qqqtas: yes [01:28] I'd like any review to be sent to the reviews list [01:28] jordi: please, give one week to answer you, if you don't get an answer, remove them and notify them about the removal, we will have 3 extra days to revert the removal [01:28] ok [01:28] qqqtas: spamming folks would really really damge the company's reputation [01:28] jordi: thank you [01:28] spiv: you should use your judgement. if the review goes on the mailing list, then others can learn from it and see what's going on. [01:29] Ok. When in doubt, mail the list. [01:29] it also provides evidence of work done, which is helpful when kiko and i come to do performance reviews. [01:29] we don't look through irc logs. [01:29] we do often look through mailing list archives [01:29] jordi: could you add that procedure to our documentation?, that way people will know how are we going to handle the requests too and they cannot complain if we remove them without warning, as you are already mailing them and we have it well documented. [01:30] qqqtas: some people have been asked to pay money by the customs or import tax people of their own country. [01:30] ok [01:30] qqqtas: but Canonical doesn't charge money. [01:30] in the FAQ? [01:31] lifeless: i've finished [01:31] jordi: yes [01:31] ok [01:31] although, if there is a wiki page that says how we do reviews [01:31] can i ask a question :P [01:31] so, I think that if its something work commenting on in the review [01:31] a note could go on theere [01:31] jordi: perhaps you should take that update as the best time to migrate it to help.launchpad.net... [01:31] s/work/worth/ then its worth sending to the list [01:31] kbrooks: you just did ;-) [01:31] SteveA: is this a meeting? [01:32] lifeless: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/ <- now with new data column [01:32] kbrooks: yes. a few of us are having a meeting. [01:32] jamesh: pending-reviews page updated [01:32] jamesh: thanks. Thats going to be really useful [01:32] SteveA: can i ask questions? :-) [01:32] kbrooks: we are responsible for reviewing the code that goes into the Launchpad software. so we're meeting about how we do those reviews. [01:32] aha thanks [01:32] carlos: nod [01:32] lifeless: it'll be more accurate as branch states change [01:32] kbrooks: sure think [01:32] I have to look at how that works [01:32] s/think/thing/ [01:32] um [01:32] whats help.lp.met [01:32] net* [01:33] jordi: it's just another wiki [01:33] hmm, wiki [01:33] ok [01:33] kbrooks: it's a place where documentation about how to use launchpad will go [01:33] jordi: is a matter of moving there the content we have and leave in the old location a link to the new one [01:33] the frontpage is just great :) [01:33] I'm open to UI/layout improvement suggestions [01:33] yes [01:33] ok, that should be easy. [01:33] jamesh: it looks great. thank you [01:33] carlos: have we talked about a layout? [01:33] kbrooks: currently, we have some documentation for the people who develop launchpad, but almost none for the people who want to use launchpad [01:33] ie, would we want RosettaFAQ or Rosetta/FAQ? [01:33] SteveA: why should there be documentation? it's "easy" enough for people to use [01:34] kbrooks: it's not [01:34] jordi: notify me when it's done and I will update launchpad code to point to the new location [01:34] jordi: don't know [01:34]