[12:03] sivang: huh... [12:04] some weeks ago i was able to produce clean debdiff output (no /tmp/blabla stuff included in filenames), but now it just not works (no tm :)) [12:15] the answer to my question is interdiff [12:17] sivang: shall i file a bug with my stuff? (i don't have upload rights) [12:21] phanatic: you mean, with you debdiff ? [12:21] yep === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] i thought of filing a bug report and assign it to motu-reviewers [12:24] phanatic: you can do that, and you can also upload a new package to REVU I guess [12:24] (thats what I intend to do) [12:24] phanatic: I happen to like the extra checkups REVU does and the convinient logs [12:26] phanatic: did you solve the clean debdiff stuff btw? I [12:27] yeah, aswered for myself :) [12:28] phanatic: ah, you had interdiff missing? [12:29] exactly === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-66-121.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-049-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi is away: Away at the moment === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] Heya gang [01:50] hi [01:50] bye [01:50] hi bddebian, hi/bye ajmitch [01:51] Later ajmitch [01:51] Hi crimsun [01:51] What's new? [01:51] filing UVF exception requests, bug hunting, and the like. Yourself? [01:51] Just getting back on it :-) [01:52] Been out with the family all day [01:52] nice. It's dreary here (50 F, raining). [01:52] Bummin' [01:53] it's always sunny on irc ;) [01:53] Thus is true :) === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] Gads it's so overwhelming I never know where to start :-( [02:00] <\sh> morning bddebian === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] morning \sh [02:05] bddebian: I'm just combing for duplicates atm [02:13] <\sh> ok..just wrote the flight7 announcement for kubuntu.de === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-049-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] \sh: awesome. [02:16] <\sh> no it's not..now I'm trying to tidy up my asoundconf gui tool for kubuntu and release it somewhere ;) [02:18] \sh: are you following bug #31699? [02:18] Malone bug 31699 in alsa-utils "Can't use other than default sound card" [Major,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/31699 [02:19] \sh: your gui tool needs to set the variables I've described in the post timestamped (2006-05-05 02:51:46 EDT). [02:20] <\sh> crimsun: it's already working :) [02:20] ...which reminds me I need to ping pitti so I rework asoundconf.1 [02:20] <\sh> the bug report I actually can use all of my sound cards, but only one card at a time. [02:20] <\sh> it's not possible to change soundcards during a kde session, don't know how it is in gnome [02:21] <\sh> I'm talking about the default sound card [02:21] <\sh> when I'm configuring e.g. amarok xine engine to play on ICH-6 which is not the default when I'm using my headset, it plays on this card.. [02:22] <\sh> but changing the default soundcard e.g. ice-6 is set to default, and it doesn't matter if you do it with asoundconf or manually, it doesn't work [02:22] right. To cover every possible case, though, it's not enough to just set !defaults.pcm.card and !defaults.ctl.card [02:22] <\sh> if the default goes away, the engine just goes away as well [02:23] <\sh> but what's in your eyes the best way to accomplish it...restarting a session is not a good solution, reloading the modules didn't work for me either [02:23] right. Dunno how to address the arts part easily. Perhaps kill and restart arts whenever the default card is changed using your tool? [02:23] <\sh> arts has nothing to do with it :) [02:23] <\sh> xine engine is doing the same [02:23] <\sh> forget about arts [02:24] eww, I see what you're saying now. [02:24] xine needs to be made to release /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* [02:26] <\sh> quite funny...I declare one card not as default but as "foobar", now foobar is my usb headset, I configure xine to play on card foobar...works. [02:26] <\sh> I remove foobar, xine tells me, you don't have a soundcard named "foobar" and xine won't work [02:29] <\sh> now, I'm trying to set the default sound device to "barfoo", which is my second card, declared via .asoundrc, it won't works, but setting card 2 to foobar doesn't work, because xine is not rereading the global asound.conf and therefore not the local .asound.conf === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] <\sh> but alsa is saying: appliation X has to reread the asound.conf every time it starts [02:30] yeah, that's a corner-case [02:30] <\sh> and amarok is more broken with xine engine [02:30] gnome skirts the issue with gconfaudiosink [02:31] <\sh> crimsun: xine engine is configured via .xine/config right? [02:31] \sh: believe so, though I've seen some apps use ~/.[weird hierarchy] /xine-config [02:32] <\sh> ok..amarok does the same...I have to try it :) [02:33] <\sh> until now it looked to me, that even xine engine didn't read it's own config file [02:33] <\sh> .kde/share/apps/amarok/xine-config should be a symlink to .xine/config [02:34] yeah, I'm not sure how to workaround that without requiring a restart of amarok [02:37] ok, I'm heading out for some dinner, will check scrollback [02:39] <\sh> even then it's not working :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] Sorry \sh, crimsun, I got knocked off [02:46] Hi \sh :-) [02:47] <\sh> bddebian: how is life? rocking on universe lately? :) [02:47] NO, I seem to suck lately :-( [02:50] <\sh> ah no ways... === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac_zzzz [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] \sh: Yeah, I'm on a negative hit rate :-( [03:16] <\sh> bddebian: can't be... [03:16] <\sh> oh well...i didn't sleep again this night...and I have to get ready in 15 minutes to prepare my travel to karlsruhe ... i'm doomed [03:17] Ack === jinty [n=jinty@134.Red-83-49-51.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] bddebian: ping [03:33] Yo [03:33] Why did you close #31170? [03:33] Bug #31170? [03:33] Malone bug 31170 in linux-source-2.6.15 "To fix in Dapper: Firewire portion of ALI combo cardbus" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/31170 [03:35] Oh, hehe, I read the description wrong. I backported the bug to breezy [03:35] uh...ok === yves [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] afternoon all [04:01] Heya ajmitch === Kyral [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] Mithrandir: btw, I did get the SoC proposal in === truz24 [n=truz24@12.203.73.176] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] hi all [04:16] 'lo zak, ajmitch [04:18] heya crimsun [04:19] Heya zakame === lakin_ [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] Is anyone overseeing the libopenal transition? I was thinking of creating a wiki page listing the outstanding packages, but don't want to duplicate effort. [04:28] siretart is [04:28] ajmitch: Thanks. I won't do anything then. === bddebian doesn't do anything either lately :'-( [04:30] bddebian: only about 25x as much as I do [04:31] ajmitch: Nah, the last fews days I have been striking out :-( [04:31] bddebian: have you seen my name on dapper-changes at all? :P [04:31] To be honest, I haven't subscribed to dapper-changes :-) [04:32] I'm not either; I refresh the Web page [04:32] Well I don't read that either :-) [04:34] When updating from version 1.7-4build1, does one go to 1.7-4ubuntu1? [04:34] yes [04:34] ajmitch: Thanks. [04:34] assuming it's a change, not a rebuild [04:34] Bah, ya beat me to it :-) [04:35] ajmitch: Yes, a change. I don't do rebuilds :) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bipolar [n=bflong@66.216.151.176.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@134.Red-83-49-51.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] bddebian: I just want to make sure you know that qt 4.1.2 from sid built on dapper w/ no problems. [05:20] bipolar: Yeah, I saw your note but missed you. 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Gnight folks [07:04] hehe night bddebian === Hobbsee pokes Seveas over his rogue bot [07:21] heh [07:25] ajmitch: yay. :-) [07:25] Mithrandir: up early, or up late? :) [07:25] ajmitch: half past seven in the morning, so up early. [07:26] yeah, I was awake around 6 this morning, which is a bit early for me [07:27] if you want any changes made to the application, just ask [07:27] ajmitch: you got it in? yay! [07:28] Hobbsee: it got written, at least [07:28] :) [07:28] that's a start... [07:28] ajmitch: I need to read my mail first, I suspect. :-) [07:28] no rush, there's still about 18 hours left till the deadline :) [07:30] hehe [07:41] urg. these mplayer bug reports are piling. :/ === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.123.89] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.123.89] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@94.Red-83-49-50.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:28] morning [08:28] persia: if you see a package that is affected by openal, please file a bug and assign it to me [08:29] persia: I'll handle them. or if you insist, go ahead with fixing them. but the transistion is because of me. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:42] siretart: the only ones I really notice are vegastrike and torcs, although it looks like the complete list is "boson-base, crystalspace, pyopenal, schorched3d, torcs, trigger, vergastrike, xpilot-ng". They're just rebuilds, so I can't fix them, but was previously thinking of creating /MOTU/Transitions/openal on the wiki (perhaps not required). [08:44] persia: most of them are already uploaded and in dep-wait [08:45] siretart: Nevermind then, I'll just wait. Sorry to trouble you. [08:45] persia: no problem. It may be that I missed some. if you want to help me, file bugs with status updates === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B163C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] good morning motu world [08:50] hiya daniel, hugmaster [08:50] Mithrandir: how are you? [08:51] fine, woke up at a little past seven, have gotten through my mail and it's a really nice day outside. [08:51] same here :) [08:51] i just needed to rush to bring the rented car back and get the dog out [08:51] it's been shorts and t-shirt weather since Thursday, which is nice. === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] siretart: Before I open a bunch of bugs, I just want to verify that searching by source package on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds with no success for any status is a good way to verify that the package needs a rebuild forced. === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:18] bug 30222 [09:18] Malone bug 30222 in xclip "xclip installs binary in wrong directory /usr/X11R6/bin" [Normal,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30222 [09:19] this is open with a fix ready [09:21] siretart: well, sometimes they were built on the old build system/ [09:21] siretart: err [09:21] persia: that was to you [09:21] it makes the package unusable :[ [09:21] persia: best way is to [09:21] persia: compare source and binaries in the archive === herzi [n=herzi@c182064.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] Lathiat: By version number? Would I be correct to be looking at the difference between aptitude show binpkgname and apt-cache showsrc srcpkgname? [09:23] Lathiat: this is not an issue here, the transition started last week [09:24] siretart: ah, ok [09:24] persia: in that case that would work [09:24] i guess [09:24] Lathiat: Thanks [09:25] siretart: Based on that, I'll open bugs. Thanks for the suggestions. [09:34] siretart: Malone bugs 43509-43516. That should complete the transition. [09:34] Malone bug 43509 in boson-base "Needs rebuild for openal transition." [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43509 [09:43] persia: thanks. some of them can be fixed by syncing the latest debian version, some of them need to be merged [09:43] morning MOTUers === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:44] hello sivang [09:44] moin [09:46] siretart: I thought that under UVF, we weren't using the new debian versions. Would attached merge diffs be useful for these bugs? [09:48] persia: most of them don't include new upstream versions, but only new debian revisions [09:48] thats okay [09:48] persia: are you familiar with crystalspace? [09:49] hey ajmitch , siretart others :) [09:49] siretart: I understand. I'll check if merges are required, and upload diffs if they are. [09:49] hi sivang [09:49] siretart: I'm not familiar with crystalspace. === sivang goes on to continue with DhIconCache [09:49] persia: I know that crystalspace is kind of a pita. [09:49] will need more time for that. if you want to take over, no problem === fredix [n=fredix@235.64.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] siretart: I'll start with the other ones then - looking at packages.debian.org, the status of crystalspace frightens me :) [09:54] persia: as said, crystalspace is a pita === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:56] network-manager broken for anyone else? [09:56] gnome variaety [09:56] works for me [09:56] hrm [09:56] just installed it on dapper here on a mates notebook and the applet doesnt start [09:57] Lathiat: try restarting it along with the dispatcher, and check that the interfaces are commented out in /etc/n/i [09:57] yep [09:57] Lathiat: /etc/dbus-1/event.d/*networkmanager restart [09:58] rebooted too [09:58] "The network manager applet could not find some required resources, it cannot continue" === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:58] might source it and see what triggers that [09:58] dispatcher/n-ma re running [09:58] just the paplet that fails [09:59] afternoon Lathiat [09:59] howdy ajmitch === No1Viking [n=No4Vikin@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] hrm every thign i see that says that.. says "the glade file was not found" on the end [10:00] odd [10:00] ah, somethign about not being able to load icons [10:01] i saw something about dh_iconcache recently? [10:02] icon nm-npn-lock is missing [10:02] *vpn [10:05] where has persia gone now? [10:05] hrmpf [10:05] ok [10:06] had to run [10:06] gtk-update-icon-cache -f . [10:06] in the hicolor directory [10:07] ok. I think I should have uploaded now almost everything for openal transition. 2 packages are waiting for sync from debian, one more is to be merged but requires the sync [10:08] and crystalspace is still a pita. if someone wants to fix it, go on! make sure you fix sear along with it ;) [10:08] need to run now, cu === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-080-023.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:14] Lathiat: we're moving all the packages that install to hicolor and gnome to use dh_iconcache atm [10:14] Lathiat: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DhIconCacheChanges has the remaining list [10:14] Lathiat: after that we should be fine [10:15] ah cool [10:24] dholbach: I already did amarok :) [10:24] dholbach: working on the main pkgs on that page [10:32] dholbach: but I wanted to ask, does it make any sense to patch KDE packages? I've seen work done at them already === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:40] sivang: Riddell should be informed about that kind of stuff (main) [10:40] dholbach: already CC'd him on the bug report [10:41] dholbach: should I ping him on IRC? [10:41] sivang: yeah just ask him as soon as he's around [10:42] dholbach: cool, thanks, trying to get some work done for tomorrow's universe approvals by TB [10:43] sivang: nice, apart from upbackup & dh_iconcache stuff, what do you have? [10:46] ajmitch: also got sponsered for the following https://launchpad.net/people/sivan/+packages , see the 'uploaded packages' [10:46] ajmitch: I plan to get more work done on DhIcon today [10:46] ajmitch: or should I work in unmetdeps instead? [10:46] (which is more importat...) [10:46] dh_iconcache changes are fairly simple [10:47] not really a good display of packaging skill :) [10:47] since TB approval means you'd have free reign on universe [10:48] ajmitch: thanks for noting, so I will switch to unmetdeps then? or universe bugs? [10:48] both [10:48] a few unmet deps are rebuilds [10:48] a few others are quite a lot more involved [10:48] ajmitch: could you suggest the ones which are more involved? === sivang wants to try the hard part of stuff [10:48] no, since to do that I'd end up doing the work :) [10:48] haha [10:48] right [10:49] ajmitch: anyway, thank you for the guidance. I'll go now check out the unmetdeps page [10:49] ajmitch: hmm, what about fixing bugs all over the place? (main as well) [10:49] do what you wish [10:49] k, will do [10:50] just don't break stuff [10:50] ajmitch: even if I do, i quickly fix it :) [10:52] ajmitch: one more question, why on most of the unmetdeps bugs there's "xsim has ..." ? === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:52] bug in script used to create bugs === ealden [n=ealden@203.177.233.238] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] okay, that makes alot more sense now [10:53] hmm, Barry already went on almost all of them ....;-) === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:06] hi people [11:07] Gloubiboulga: fixed some more dh_iconcache packages ;) [11:08] hey phanatic [11:08] I've seen your patches and uploaded 2 :) [11:08] yeah, thanks a lot :) [11:09] but maybe avoid making too many changes [11:09] for bug 43524 for example [11:09] Malone bug 43524 in potracegui "dh_iconcache added and some minor fixes" [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43524 [11:09] ok, i just wanted to have clean diffs === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh [n=shermann@unaffiliated/sh/x-000000002] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] if you don't like it, feel free to exclude the appropriate lines :) [11:10] <\sh> moins [11:10] hi \sh [11:10] hello Toadstool [11:10] phanatic, yep, I understand ans agree with that, but we try to keep the diff with debian as small as possible [11:10] hey \sh [11:11] s/ans/and [11:11] hi \sh [11:11] Gloubiboulga: thanks for the note, i'll concentrate just on dh_iconcache then... [11:11] phanatic, thanks for your work :) [11:12] my pleasure to be able to help :) === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] Gloubiboulga: what to do if a package has -1build1 version? shall i bump it to build2? [11:27] phanatic: Earlier I was told to use ubuntu1 after build1 [11:27] yep [11:27] persia: thanks, i was just wondering if it's okay [11:27] thanks :) [11:27] if you make source changes, change it to ubuntu1, if you just rebuild, change it to build2. [11:28] 'build' is used if you don't change a thing in the package (except the changelog) [11:28] Mithrandir: since it's a dh_iconcache issue, i suppose to change it to ubuntu1 [11:28] phanatic: isn't it just a rebuild, then? [11:29] yeah [11:29] i men [11:29] mean [11:29] no :) [11:29] i change the debian/rules [11:29] phanatic: Doesn't it involve changes to debian/rules? If so, ...ubuntu1 [11:29] it's not a simple rebuild then i think [11:29] only a rebuild for those cdbs-using packages with gnome.mk [11:30] ajmitch: this package uses debhelper [11:30] hi al [11:30] hey zakame [11:31] hey phanatic [11:32] siretart: Sorry for stomping you. I think I have a solution also for crystalspace - did you already do this as well? [11:32] heya people [11:32] hello Tonio_ === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] Is the python transition complete? Is it now safe to leave python2.3-dev | python2.2-dev | python-dev in Build-Depends? [11:57] sivang, don't fight with the xfce4 unmet deps ;), porting the plugins to the new panel is a huge work [11:58] sivang, if upstream doesn't do it, the plugins will be dropped from the archive I think [11:58] Gloubiboulga: thank you for the note :) === ealden [n=ealden@203.177.233.238] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:59] sivang, np :) === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === erez [n=erez@89-138-110-12.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@89-138-110-12.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-205-174.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd_ [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@89-138-110-12.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] sivang: patch them if you want yes [12:25] but I'll not spend time on it, it's a gnome issue only so far [12:26] Riddell: I see, so what's the rationale in patching KDE apps as well? (quite some have done so) [12:27] sivang: so that when KDE apps are installed their icons are added to the cache and gnome can find the icons quicker, I expect it will only make a difference for the app icon in the application menu [12:27] Riddell: I see, thanks again. === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@89-138-110-12.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@89-138-110-12.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd_ [n=dewd@201.29.97.59] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [n=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac_zzzz [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [n=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.177.233.238] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=ryu@p5487DCF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@62-15-158-30.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] anybody knows what we should do with https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-goodies/+bug/41545 ? [02:06] Malone bug 41545 in xfce4-goodies "[UNMETDEPS] xsim has unmet dependencies" [Normal,Needs info] [02:07] sivang, the package will be updated as soon as the other Xfce unmet deps will be fixed [02:09] Gloubiboulga: okay, thanks [02:11] siretart: any idea where to go next with https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/manderlbot/+bug/41551 ? there is not note about where this is standing. [02:11] Malone bug 41551 in manderlbot "[UNMETDEPS] manderlbot has unmet dependencies" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] === sivang aplogizes for the massive bugging. trying to find where to be helpful on unmetdeps. [02:13] sivang: well, I noticed that this bug is also in debian/unstable. and the problem was explained in the referenced debian bu [02:13] g [02:14] sivang: I don't think we can fix this bug in time for dapper, unless you find someone familiar with erlang [02:14] it would be best if it could be fixed on the debian side and we merge it. but well.. [02:15] siretart: okay, thanks. then I'd better stay off of this. === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] hmm, zope is not installable in dapper? [02:21] this seems to be the cause for zope-zshell missing depends [02:21] sivang: ask ajmitch, he has been working a lot on zope and related packages [02:22] sivang: and check malone there may be some syncs pending [02:22] ajmitch: ping, is there a problem with zope installation in dapper currently? zope-zshell is unmetdeps , drilling down I see 'zope' matches zope2.8, which is uninstallable. === GazerWork is now known as Gazer === siretart points to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-May/000654.html [02:27] persia: --^ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] siretart: I'll take a look at worldforge. Thanks. === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] heylo [02:49] G'day all [02:49] hello [02:49] hi Yagisan and Mithrandir [02:51] Do we have any tutorials on packaging python applications. I might be misunderstanding it, but the debian reference looks more like it is for python modules. [02:51] hey Hobbsee. === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0218.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] finish your assignment ? [02:52] nope [02:53] Yagisan: have a look at the londonlaw packaging. [02:53] Yagisan: what are you trying to package? [02:56] siretart: thanks [02:56] sivang: a gui lancher for a game [02:58] Yagisan: is it complex? === tuxmaniac_zzzz [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] siretart: sear needs some work (in progress), but I don't see a relationship to crystalspace (aside from lack of attention). Am I missing something? [02:59] sivang: not really as far as I can tell, but I'm sort of the linux guinea pig. I need to package it, and hunt down windows and mac assumptions [02:59] Yagisan: well, if it's not that complicated, you can check out hubackup [02:59] persia: IIRC, sear, the worldforge client was developed on top of crystalspace? [03:00] Yagisan: I based the packaging of it on gdebi's , and it turned out to be quite okay. [03:00] persia: maybe I'm not uptodate anymore. would be good if you could enlighten me (best would be in the bugreport or as follow up to the email) [03:01] sivang: we have a book on python don't we. I should install and read it. [03:05] siretart: Looking at recent materials, I'm not sure, but any connection is at several removes. I'll try to get a working compile and demonstrate a connection between sear and cyphesis-cpp locally, and update 6527, which is more likely to be the preferred solution. [03:05] Yagisan: well, I started by reading all I can about distutils, === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] hi people [03:05] Yagisan: then watchign how its stuff gets called from debian/ruels [03:05] hey ph [03:05] hey phanatic [03:05] :) === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] phanatic: how's it going? [03:06] siretart: a simple rebuild is enough for the openal transition ? [03:06] siretart: who do I ask fro sync request from debian sid? [03:06] (elmo?) [03:06] hey sivang, a storm is comin :) [03:06] sivang: ok. I know absolutely 0 python. [03:07] phanatic: storm?? where are you in? === sivang notes is bloody hot in here [03:07] salut Gloubiboulga, i'll create less agressive debdiffs for the packages ;) [03:07] sivang: budapest, hungary [03:08] phanatic, ok, thanks :) [03:08] Yagisan: often, but not always. you need to identify if the package is not actually using alut, which was split into its own package [03:09] Yagisan: if the package is really using openal only, yes, it should be done with a simple rebuild [03:09] sivang: read the updated DeveloperRessources wiki page, and note the updated part about 'syncs' === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] Gloubiboulga: i have a problem tho... pureadmin depends on libfam-dev. when i want to install that package, it wants to remove a lot of others (part of the desktop), so i cannot build a package which i could try in a pbuilder environment (.dsc). what to do? when i remove that dep, the pkg builds well [03:10] hey, it's like a monsoon here :\ [03:11] phanatic: Does it work with gamin? [03:11] persia: what do you mean? [03:11] phanatic: The replacement for libfam. [03:12] i didn't know that :) how to change the deps? and may i change if i only want to do the dh_iconcache stuff? (Gloubiboulga suggested me not to touch other parts of the source) === lakin_ [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] phanatic, you can change anything needed to fix a bug :) [03:13] siretart: ok. if it FTBFS I needed alut ;) [03:14] phanatic, but I've successfully built pureadmin on my system and in pbuilder without changing the dependency [03:14] Gloubiboulga: thanks :) shall i file a separate bug, or is it enough to mention it on the dh_iconcache bugreport? [03:15] phanatic, don't open a new bug, just mention it :) [03:15] phanatic: The dependencies are adjusted in debian/control. You'll first want to read the docs for libfam and gamin, and make sure they are source compatible. If not, you'll want to patch the source to work. There's no patch system for pureadmin, so it would be rather invasive, merge-wise (although it may still be worthwhile). [03:15] but i need that dsc file for debdiff + pbuilder [03:16] please correct me if i'm wrong, or could do somehow without installing libfam-dev to my system :) [03:16] phanatic, libgamin-dev provides libfam-dev now [03:17] so with libgamin-dev installed, it should build [03:17] thanks [03:17] then i'll change the dep [03:17] ok [03:18] can someone please upload a fixed package with the debdiff I provided in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bzrk/+bug/37162 ? === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] Malone bug 37162 in bzrk "bzrk is broken with current version of bzr in dapper" [Major,Confirmed] [03:19] Glah! ftp.debian.org is down (at least for me) :( [03:19] sivang: thanks for fixing that one ;) [03:19] phanatic: no problem, should I upload a fixed package to REVU ? [03:20] phanatic: (this is a very small debdiff, so I figured is useless to do so) === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] i think i can wait till it hits the archive :) (have other things to do) [03:22] phanatic: so no need to ? is someone else going to upload that for me? [03:23] i don't have access for upload, sorry :( === Whoopie [n=whoopie7@p54A78946.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] Gloubiboulga: another issue with pureadmin. it generates a file in autpackage/ during the build, but make distclean doesn't remove it. is it okay to rm it from debian/rules, or shall i leave it unchanged? [03:24] sivang: Assign the bug to motu-reviewers, and someone will upload the patch when they have a chance. [03:25] seems like my libgnome*-dev are all broken.. And it is so on Breezy :O [03:25] phanatic: yes, remove it from debian/rules. you need to clean up after upstream scripts [03:27] Guys any body tell why the follwoing Broken Package error is due to On breezy http://pastebin.com/705252 [03:27] siretart: thanks [03:27] persia: done [03:27] I have run apt-get update! [03:28] still no luck [03:31] hi all === tuxmaniac welcomes zakame === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] hey zakame === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] hi guys [03:34] who are the best folks to speak with about REVU? === tuxmaniac welcomes sabdfl [03:34] hey tuxmaniac [03:34] ajmitch \sh [03:34] i'm keen to get going on building similar functionality right into LP === bipolar [n=bflong@mail.sscsince73.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] woo, that sounds cool :) [03:34] ajmitch_ \sh: around? [03:35] sabdfl: afaik, ajmitch was doing an assignment [03:35] sabdfl: You better build it.. I have been facing problems with REVU for the past 2 weeks.. Even the REVU admins are unable to solve it === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-062-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] sivang: should be, if we do a classy job of it [03:35] siretart is a REVU admin iirc [03:35] ok, i will ping them by mail [03:35] thanks guys === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:35] sabdfl: indeed. could go along well with DistroPolicyTracker verifications [03:38] hi all [03:38] hi zakame === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] hey sab [03:38] hey bddebian [03:38] hey phanatic bddebian [03:38] Gloubiboulga: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pureadmin/+bug/43451 hope it's ok now :) [03:38] Malone bug 43451 in pureadmin "dh_iconcache added and some minor fixes" [Normal,In progress] === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@bl4-80-239.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] Heya gang [03:39] Hi phanatic, zakame [03:39] hey bddebian [03:39] Hi Hobbsee [03:39] hey bddebian :) [03:39]