| Zerlinna | good night | 12:04 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: we have a statement in german for the linuxtag with pics, wanna put an english translation on .org? | 12:07 |
| kwwii | http://user.uni-frankfurt.de/~waeckerl/kmark.jpg | 12:08 |
| kwwii | that is one handsome looking man :-) | 12:08 |
| Riddell | kwwii: sure | 12:10 |
| raphink | kwwii: great pic | 12:11 |
| raphink | can't you have a bit more of the K ? | 12:11 |
| kwwii | http://www.flickr.com/photos/foobarbaz/141521711/ | 12:11 |
| kwwii | he looks like superman | 12:12 |
| raphink | great | 12:12 |
| raphink | :) | 12:12 |
| kwwii | next comes the cape | 12:12 |
| === raphink wonders how an open-source designer can use flickr ;) | ||
| kwwii | oh, that is not mine | 12:12 |
| raphink | ok | 12:12 |
| kwwii | I did not have my camera at the convention | 12:12 |
| raphink | mhm | 12:12 |
| kwwii | which reminds me to cut the video | 12:12 |
| OdyX | raphink: why ? | 12:12 |
| OdyX | raphink: don't liek Yahoo ? | 12:13 |
| === kwwii reboots | ||
| raphink | wow | 12:14 |
| raphink | great message in minicli | 12:14 |
| raphink | KMessageBox::error( this, i18n("You do not exist.\n")); | 12:15 |
| raphink | lol | 12:15 |
| raphink | I love this error message | 12:15 |
| allee | raphink: su.cpp is a c++ file and m_User sounds like a member. Is == overloaded in the class of m_User? If not you compare two memory addresses. | 12:20 |
| raphink | hmmm | 12:21 |
| raphink | well what I do is | 12:21 |
| raphink | if ( m_User == "root" ) { | 12:21 |
| raphink | superUserCommand = "su"; | 12:21 |
| raphink | } | 12:21 |
| raphink | but then it seems it considers this is always the case | 12:21 |
| raphink | and I end up running su all the time with kdesu | 12:21 |
| raphink | at least now I can run as foo | 12:21 |
| raphink | but I can't use sudo anymore ;) | 12:22 |
| raphink | but then I wonder what the if ((m_Scheduler != SchedNormal) || (m_Priority > 50)) tests | 12:24 |
| raphink | any idea allee? | 12:24 |
| allee | add after the if { } test: kdDebug() << m_User << ", " << superUserCommand << endl; | 12:24 |
| raphink | huh? | 12:25 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: uploaded | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: thanks | 12:25 |
| raphink | what is << for in c++ anyway? | 12:26 |
| raphink | :s | 12:26 |
| allee | raphink: no idea what Scheduler and Priority is | 12:26 |
| Riddell | raphink: bitshift | 12:26 |
| Lure | stream (like pipe in shell) | 12:26 |
| raphink | ah ok | 12:26 |
| raphink | in the same direction than | in shell ? | 12:26 |
| allee | raphink: afair, yes << is overloaded | 12:26 |
| Lure | you pass m_user to kdDebug | 12:26 |
| Riddell | it often gets overloaded to mean sending a string to a pipe type class. c++ is horrible like that | 12:26 |
| raphink | so it's the other direction | 12:26 |
| raphink | from right to left | 12:26 |
| allee | raphink: no you feed it into the object. therefore the direction to kdDebug() | 12:27 |
| Lure | raphink: you can read that line as printing out m_User, followed by ", " followed by superUserCommand, followed by newline (endl) | 12:27 |
| raphink | ok | 12:28 |
| raphink | if the debug flag is on that is | 12:28 |
| raphink | so this is to trace the values of m_User and superUserCommand at this time | 12:28 |
| raphink | but I have to build kdelibs for 1 hour again to see the trace :( | 12:28 |
| crimsun | raphink: you want ccache. | 12:29 |
| allee | raphink: as long as configure is not called with --disable-debug you should get output | 12:29 |
| raphink | crimsun: what is that? | 12:29 |
| crimsun | raphink: install it and weep. | 12:29 |
| raphink | hmmm how do you mean? | 12:29 |
| === raphink is not C++ literatte | ||
| allee | raphink: debuild -nc # <- no clean and not configure run | 12:29 |
| raphink | ah | 12:29 |
| raphink | is that for the local dir or for the whole package ? | 12:30 |
| allee | raphink: these kdDebug() is 90% of my c++ knowledge ;) | 12:30 |
| raphink | allee: haha | 12:30 |
| crimsun | debuild would be for the source package; ccache would be for anything. | 12:30 |
| allee | raphink: whole pkg | 12:30 |
| allee | raphink: but ... | 12:30 |
| allee | make | 12:30 |
| raphink | allee: then it'll take 1 hours still | 12:30 |
| crimsun | (where anything is the subset of stuff that requires gcc or g++) | 12:31 |
| raphink | crimsun: ah, so I'd just type ccache to build | 12:31 |
| allee | cp kdesu to install dir may work too | 12:31 |
| crimsun | raphink: it takes a bit more configuration than that | 12:31 |
| raphink | hmm | 12:31 |
| raphink | it has to build though | 12:31 |
| raphink | and typing make in the current dir won't build it | 12:31 |
| crimsun | it maintains hashes of object code; if they match, no need to recompile | 12:31 |
| raphink | ah | 12:31 |
| allee | raphink: if no clean is run before -nc does make and make install then create pkg, so only recreating kdesu binary | 12:32 |
| raphink | I'll try something else | 12:34 |
| raphink | hehe | 12:34 |
| raphink | not sure of what I'm doing but it might work | 12:35 |
| raphink | and then I'm learning :) | 12:35 |
| raphink | and I love that :) | 12:35 |
| === Lure -> bed - good night | ||
| raphink | good night Lure | 12:38 |
| Lure | good luck raphink ;-) | 12:38 |
| allee | Anyone feels like testing digikam: downloading a digikam deb and 3 pictures? | 12:38 |
| raphink | thanks Lure | 12:39 |
| raphink | not right now allee | 12:39 |
| raphink | but when I'm building sure | 12:39 |
| allee | okay uploading ... | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | nite guys :) | 12:40 |
| allee | nite | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: demain faut qu'on parle de ce qu'on a dit | 12:41 |
| raphink | ah oui | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | on a pas beaucoup de temps pour faire entrer des modifs | 12:41 |
| raphink | je suis sr que je suis prt de rgler ce run as foo | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | c coule :) | 12:41 |
| allee | raphink: you can test an i386 deb or should I upload source? | 12:43 |
| raphink | source | 12:43 |
| raphink | my i386 server is busy building | 12:43 |
| raphink | so I'm on the ppc | 12:43 |
| raphink | since the other i386 I have here are still running breezy | 12:44 |
| allee | raphink: http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/argl/ | 12:46 |
| allee | raphink: copy pictures of fake-camera into an empty dir. Add a 'Mounted Camera' with the path to dir that contains the dir | 12:47 |
| allee | raphink: then download the pics. Check in Properties dialog if 'EXIF' data of the pics in (hopefully not) empty | 12:49 |
| allee | s/in/is/ | 12:49 |
| raphink | do I have to build the packages ? | 12:49 |
| raphink | or should I test with current digikam ? | 12:49 |
| allee | raphink: you wanted the source, so you have to build it ;) | 12:49 |
| allee | raphink: yes you can test with current digikam too. In this case EXIF data will be lost after download. | 12:50 |
| raphink | sure | 12:50 |
| raphink | ah | 12:50 |
| raphink | well let's see if I understand what you mean | 12:50 |
| raphink | I copy your pics into an empty dir on my HD | 12:50 |
| allee | raphink: yes | 12:50 |
| raphink | I open digikam | 12:50 |
| raphink | and use this dir as a fake already mounted cam | 12:51 |
| allee | yes | 12:51 |
| raphink | so it will think it's downloading from it | 12:51 |
| allee | yes | 12:51 |
| raphink | hmmw | 12:51 |
| raphink | where do I add a camera this way? | 12:51 |
| allee | In the list in 'add camera' search 'Mounted camera' asmodel | 12:51 |
| allee | camera -> add camera -> new | 12:52 |
| allee | s/new/Add .../ | 12:52 |
| raphink | found | 12:53 |
| raphink | ok | 12:53 |
| raphink | so I downloaded them | 12:53 |
| raphink | now what? | 12:53 |
| allee | RMB -> Properties, EXIF tab | 12:54 |
| raphink | I have no EFIX | 12:54 |
| raphink | no exif infos for these pics | 12:54 |
| raphink | :) | 12:54 |
| raphink | but I have them in konqueror | 12:54 |
| raphink | so ok | 12:54 |
| raphink | now I'm supposed to build the new package | 12:54 |
| allee | ah, this is expected with digikam from dapper | 12:54 |
| raphink | and test again | 12:54 |
| raphink | :) | 12:54 |
| raphink | right? | 12:55 |
| raphink | :) | 12:55 |
| allee | raphink: right | 12:55 |
| raphink | ok | 12:55 |
| raphink | let me update my pbuilder | 12:55 |
| raphink | then build :) | 12:55 |
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| raphink | let's build now :) | 12:58 |
| === raphink also crosses fingers that his kdelibs fix will fix the run as foo problem properly | ||
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| poimen | what is the diference in the flight releases and the beta LTS ??? | 01:09 |
| raphink | allee: still building if you wonder | 01:10 |
| allee | :) | 01:11 |
| OdyX | poimen: 2 weeks. | 01:13 |
| poimen | ok | 01:14 |
| kwwii | night all - time for sleep | 01:30 |
| raphink | bye kwwii | 01:30 |
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| raphink | allee: still doesn't work it seems | 01:37 |
| allee | raphink: thx for trying. So it's not my just system :( | 01:38 |
| raphink | sorry :( | 01:38 |
| raphink | I hope my fix for kdelibs will work | 01:38 |
| raphink | otherwise I'll have to wipe with you | 01:38 |
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| raphink | updating now | 01:39 |
| raphink | argh | 01:41 |
| raphink | doesn't work | 01:41 |
| raphink | so not the right place to replace it | 01:42 |
| raphink | I'll keep tracking tomorrow | 01:42 |
| raphink | I'm sure I'm pretty much done fixing it | 01:42 |
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| kwwii | can anyone play this movie? | 10:17 |
| kwwii | http://bootsplash.org/kubuntuAtLinuxTag2006.mov | 10:17 |
| kwwii | 65MB beware | 10:17 |
| \sh | not right now :( | 10:26 |
| \sh | moins kwwii btw :) | 10:26 |
| kasina | hi kwii. Its can open with Quicktime (Mac or on Windows) | 10:26 |
| kwwii | kasina: I hoped that the qt for linux stuff would work, or at least mplayer :-) | 10:27 |
| kwwii | it is mp4 video and audio | 10:27 |
| kwwii | \sh: howdy | 10:28 |
| kwwii | :-9 | 10:28 |
| kwwii | erm, I am still waking up :-) | 10:28 |
| kasina | kwii: I doubt it. I tried before with such file formats but they failed to work on my Linux. | 10:30 |
| kwwii | kasina: yeah, that is what I am afraid of | 10:33 |
| kasina | Kwii: I'm interested in writing a coded for it, coz I'd also love to use files with such formats, but not soon though. My hands are full at the moment | 10:35 |
| kasina | "codec" not coded :) | 10:35 |
| kwwii | :-) | 10:35 |
| kwwii | actually, it plays on my mplayer | 10:35 |
| OdyXydO | kwwii but kaffeine gives error due to http plugin? | 10:36 |
| kasina | Does it? :/ | 10:37 |
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| kasina | I tried but it failed back then | 10:37 |
| freeflying | kwwii: nice | 10:38 |
| kwwii | looking at that video makes me want to do it all again :-) It really was a great time there....the perfect group of people, we all had fun I think | 10:39 |
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| pygi | Riddell: ping | 10:39 |
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| OdyXydO | kwwii: I can try to make a Ogg-Theora-Vorbis version if you want.. | 10:46 |
| _pradeepto | sorry got disconnected. But can anybody help me with a nice Kubuntu logo and such. | 10:47 |
| OdyXydO | _pradeepto: I made Kubuntu-fr version. What do you need ? | 10:47 |
| _pradeepto | OdyXydO: a simple Kubuntu logo thats all. One that can be used for printing stickers. | 10:48 |
| OdyXydO | _pradeepto: Riddel has one, wait, I find it. | 10:48 |
| _pradeepto | :) | 10:48 |
| OdyXydO | http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-dapper.svg <- SVG version. | 10:49 |
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| kwwii | OdyXydO: that would be cool, what do you need as an input file? | 10:49 |
| OdyXydO | kwwii: I can try with that one, but plain mpeg is lot better. | 10:50 |
| kwwii | erm, you guys should get the newest version of the logo to print | 10:50 |
| OdyXydO | kwwii: isn't it that one the new ? | 10:50 |
| _pradeepto | OdyXydO: thanks. | 10:50 |
| kwwii | OdyXydO: I'll export a photo-jpeg if you want - that works everywhere, but the file size will be pretty big | 10:50 |
| kwwii | OdyX: I doub tit | 10:51 |
| OdyX | kwwii: let me first try with that one... | 10:51 |
| _pradeepto | kwwii: sorry to ask this but aren't you Ken? :) | 10:51 |
| kwwii | _pradeepto: yepp :-) | 10:52 |
| kwwii | hi | 10:52 |
| _pradeepto | kwwii: hey there | 10:52 |
| kwwii | that is the newest version for onscreen stuff, but for print stuff there is a better one | 10:52 |
| kwwii | I made that one in london | 10:52 |
| kwwii | and canonical has changed the colors a bit since then | 10:52 |
| _pradeepto | ah ok | 10:52 |
| _pradeepto | so any chance I can lay my hands on the, | 10:53 |
| kwwii | where are you printing it? | 10:53 |
| kwwii | t-shirt, sticker, etc, I mean | 10:53 |
| _pradeepto | I guess I will do it here locally or something. | 10:53 |
| _pradeepto | t-shirt ofcourse I got it done locally. | 10:53 |
| kwwii | so it will go on a t-shirt and a sticker? | 10:54 |
| _pradeepto | for now stickers and kwwii please please dont give me t-shirt ideas ;) | 10:54 |
| kwwii | hehe :-) | 10:54 |
| kwwii | I'd just have more work to do! | 10:54 |
| _pradeepto | heh | 10:55 |
| _pradeepto | kwwii: honestly during those days when I was fighting for t-shirt and all, you know what, | 10:55 |
| _pradeepto | the first sample t-shirt had your design on the front and kubutu logo in the back :) | 10:55 |
| kwwii | :-) | 10:55 |
| _pradeepto | your *first* design | 10:55 |
| OdyX | kwwii: I re-wrote yours entirely in SVG, for kubuntu-fr: http://didier.raboud.com/share/artwork | 10:56 |
| _pradeepto | kwwii: there's just one copy of that tee in the whole planet :) | 10:56 |
| kwwii | _pradeepto: lol | 10:56 |
| _pradeepto | OdyX: nice :) | 10:57 |
| kwwii | OdyX: why did you redo it? (no bad feelings or anything, just a question) | 10:57 |
| OdyX | well.. yours was not in "text"... in mine, you can type whatever you want, you will get the effect.... | 10:57 |
| OdyX | So.. perfect for other communities.. making -de is 2mins... | 10:58 |
| kwwii | OdyX: yeah, but you cannot really type anything cause that font is pretty shitty | 10:58 |
| === kwwii always has to make the umlaut's for german letters | ||
| OdyX | kwwii: well.. sure. | 10:58 |
| OdyX | no big letters, have to modify if you use "y" | 10:58 |
| OdyX | but....welll.. for our use, it is fine ;D | 10:59 |
| kwwii | :-) | 10:59 |
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| pradeepto | kwwii: any chance I can get the artwork you made in London? | 11:01 |
| kwwii | pradeepto: well, pretty much all of it is already available or in kubuntu | 11:02 |
| kwwii | pradeepto: that logo from riddell is the one I made in london | 11:02 |
| pradeepto | ahh | 11:02 |
| OdyX | kwwii: what is the original format of the video ? | 11:02 |
| pradeepto | kwwii: so can I not find some that is there on my dapper box or use the one OdyX gave me? Those are good for printing right? | 11:03 |
| kwwii | OdyX: well, I shot it in DV | 11:03 |
| OdyX | kwwii: well... then it's easy ;-) | 11:03 |
| kwwii | OdyX: what format do you want? | 11:03 |
| kwwii | DV might be kinda big | 11:03 |
| OdyX | converting from quicktime is a piece of sh** | 11:03 |
| kwwii | yeah, I kinda guessed that | 11:03 |
| OdyX | kwwii: well.. convertion is really a command line... :D | 11:03 |
| OdyX | kwwii: if you have good proc, it won't take too much time... | 11:04 |
| kwwii | OdyX: yeah, I could do that too, I am just too lazy to use mencoder | 11:04 |
| OdyX | kwwii: I will find you the command lines | 11:04 |
| pradeepto | hmm is there another LT video other than that I found on Riddell's page or something? | 11:04 |
| kwwii | OdyX: ok, deal | 11:04 |
| OdyX | (ffmpeg2theora, not mencoder) ;D | 11:04 |
| kwwii | ok, I even have ffmpeg on my mac :-) | 11:04 |
| kwwii | but I'll do this in linux anyway | 11:05 |
| OdyX | kwwii: it's special paquage... | 11:05 |
| OdyX | not plain ffmpeg | 11:05 |
| kwwii | ahhh | 11:05 |
| OdyX | install ffmpeg2theora | 11:05 |
| kwwii | ok | 11:05 |
| kwwii | first I will export this clip as DV and then reboot :-) | 11:05 |
| OdyX | kwwii: in fact, just type ffmpeg2theora... the script is really easy to use. | 11:06 |
| kasina | I'd wish to start contributing to Kubuntu - I'm based in Kenya, Africa and just wanted to know what the process is. :) Some guidance | 11:08 |
| kwwii | kasina: well, it is really simple...find something that needs fixing and fix it :-) | 11:10 |
| OdyX | kasina: ever walked through https://launchpad.net ? | 11:10 |
| kasina | not yet | 11:12 |
| kasina | Let me check it out | 11:12 |
| kasina | Actually I had some long time back in the first Kubuntu release. Then I got into some projects that hardly gave me any time for contribution. | 11:13 |
| kwwii | Riddell: how do you want to work on the installer UI stuff? | 11:14 |
| kwwii | Riddell: should I make mockups? can you tell me any limitations, etc.? | 11:14 |
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| Riddell | kwwii: no paticular limitations that I can think of | 11:43 |
| Riddell | this is the UI file http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/bzr/ubiquity/ubuntu/ubiquity/frontend/liveinstaller.ui | 11:43 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: cool. thanks | 11:57 |
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| Riddell | my summer of code t-shirt came! | 11:58 |
| abattoir_ | Riddell: for being a mentor? | 11:58 |
| abattoir_ | or was it from last year? | 11:59 |
| Riddell | yes, from last year | 11:59 |
| pradeepto | and you got that now | 11:59 |
| pradeepto | Riddell: and yesterday they were discussion effeciency at G on #kde-devel , I think ;) | 12:00 |
| Tm_T | haha | 12:00 |
| abattoir_ | hello Tm_T :) | 12:00 |
| Tm_T | abattoir_: well, hello :) | 12:00 |
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| MidMark | Hi, Riddell I've problem with ubiquity in flight-7 | 12:58 |
| MidMark | could you help me? | 12:59 |
| MidMark | probably some bugs | 12:59 |
| Riddell | MidMark: what's up? | 01:00 |
| MidMark | Riddell: I've run live-cd with flight-7 on an old pc, only keyboard, no mouse | 01:01 |
| MidMark | ages to run bot ok it runs | 01:01 |
| MidMark | then: click on install icon, choose next, choose Italian (yes I'm ITA) | 01:02 |
| MidMark | and the first bug in my op: only Welcome translated in italian, instructions remains in ENG | 01:02 |
| MidMark | then loads step 3, but it freeze | 01:02 |
| MidMark | ctrl-alt-F2 not working | 01:03 |
| MidMark | the cd-rom light is always on, the rest is all freeze | 01:04 |
| MidMark | don't know if the cd-rom is burned ok, it's the first time I used it, but I think freeze is abnormal | 01:06 |
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| MidMark | Riddell: is there something I can do to provide more informations? | 01:07 |
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| insanekane | is flight 7 out ? | 01:13 |
| kwwii | yepp | 01:13 |
| kwwii | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/ | 01:13 |
| insanekane | damn me! | 01:13 |
| insanekane | i just finished the flight-6 download :P | 01:13 |
| insanekane | of course, having a flight-7 is a good thing :) | 01:13 |
| Riddell | MidMark: does stage three get loaded or does it freeze before that? | 01:14 |
| MidMark | Riddell: before that | 01:14 |
| MidMark | during loading step 3 | 01:14 |
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| Riddell | MidMark: i386 PC? | 01:16 |
| MidMark | Riddell: it a P3-450, 192 ram, riva tnt2 16 mb, 6,4+8,4 GB hdd | 01:16 |
| MidMark | mobo: Soyo i440bx2, sound: creatice PCI 128 | 01:20 |
| Riddell | I wonder if it ran out of memory | 01:22 |
| Riddell | MidMark: can you kill it and try again? | 01:22 |
| Riddell | you'll also need to kill any debconf process going on | 01:22 |
| MidMark | I cannot kill it, it all freeze, I can reboot | 01:23 |
| MidMark | I can reboot and starts ubiquity from a console... | 01:23 |
| MidMark | probably show more infos | 01:24 |
| Riddell | yeah please | 01:24 |
| MidMark | ok, ubiquity is correct to start it? | 01:24 |
| Riddell | could well be an our of memory thing, we've had that before | 01:24 |
| Riddell | kdesu ubiquity kde-ui | 01:25 |
| MidMark | Riddell: during loading, but dma is always off in cd-rom and hard disk? It takes looong time to boot | 01:26 |
| Riddell | _Sime, sebas: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/soc2.png | 01:33 |
| Riddell | Add/Remove programs: | 01:37 |
| Riddell | =================== | 01:37 |
| Riddell | If you cancel a started download and install, you get a message | 01:37 |
| Riddell | "Application installed successfully!" | 01:37 |
| Riddell | mornfall: ^^ spotted in an e-mail to kubuntu-devel list | 01:37 |
| mornfall | Riddell: yeah, probably so... but, ui freeze? | 01:38 |
| Riddell | that's a bug, fixing it doesn't go against UI freeze so long as it can be done without adding a new string somehow | 01:39 |
| mornfall | well, but how? | 01:39 |
| Riddell | don't display any dialogue? the person has already clicked cancel so should know what the result is | 01:40 |
| mornfall | hmm, jump straight back to selection? | 01:40 |
| mornfall | could do | 01:40 |
| MidMark | how can open a console without mouse? KDE is unusable without it | 01:40 |
| mornfall | good thing i didn't make the tarballs yesterday :p | 01:41 |
| Riddell | MidMark: alt+space | 01:41 |
| Riddell | konsole | 01:41 |
| Tm_T | done | 01:41 |
| Tm_T | or alt+f2 (?) and konsole | 01:41 |
| Tm_T | win+r here | 01:41 |
| Riddell | MidMark: you may also want to do `tail -f /var/log/syslog &` | 01:43 |
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| MidMark | ah... I can open another konsole and do that | 01:44 |
| MidMark | how can I move windows without mouse? | 01:44 |
| Tm_T | like now in desktop 1 (from 8) I have 4 different terminal programs running err, 10 bash sessions | 01:45 |
| Tm_T | MidMark: whoo, enable keyboard mouse? | 01:45 |
| MidMark | tmt: how? | 01:46 |
| Tm_T | hummm | 01:47 |
| MidMark | it doesn't matter, I switch with alt+tab | 01:47 |
| MidMark | ok starting ubiquity... | 01:47 |
| Riddell | basse wants to know if we want more konqi graphics | 01:48 |
| Tm_T | MidMark: it can be enabled in kcontrol -> peripherals -> mouse | 01:48 |
| OdyX | Riddell: is there somebody still taking care of Breezy and older versions? (Bugs & Co) I see a lot of Breezy bugs, but nobody to confirm or manage? | 01:51 |
| Riddell | OdyX: if the bug is fixed in dapper then mark it as fixed released, breezy is long since released it doesn't get changes | 01:53 |
| OdyX | Riddell: so bugs in Breezy are not meant to be fixed ? | 01:54 |
| Riddell | OdyX: it's about 6 months too late for that :) | 01:54 |
| OdyX | Riddell: OK. Did not understand it correctly. | 01:54 |
| Tm_T | bug 31768 | 01:55 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 31768 in k3b "Dapper: k3b ignores manually set burn speed" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/31768 | 01:55 |
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| Tm_T | OdyX: I'll check | 01:55 |
| Tm_T | just have to find something to burn | 01:55 |
| MidMark | freeze again, I can make a photo :/ | 01:56 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: I found arson somewhat good burner | 01:57 |
| OdyX | arson ? | 01:57 |
| Tm_T | yes | 01:57 |
| OdyX | instead of k3b ? | 01:57 |
| Tm_T | yes, it's very simple, so it doesn't totally replace it | 01:57 |
| Tm_T | but if you just have to burn image... :) | 01:57 |
| OdyX | well.. Images and backups ;-) | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | yeah | 01:58 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: some burn:/ protocol is missing in Konqui... | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | ...hey! you criminal! | 01:58 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: ???? | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: ont when you do the kioslave ;-P | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | s/ont/not/ | 01:58 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: hum... Well.... Not now ;-) | 01:59 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 01:59 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: later today? | 01:59 |
| OdyX | well later that decade? | 01:59 |
| Tm_T | ;( | 01:59 |
| kwwii | does the live installer always take so long to start? | 02:00 |
| OdyX | kwwii: as long as Breezy's ? | 02:01 |
| OdyX | I don't think... | 02:02 |
| mornfall | going back to office | 02:02 |
| Tm_T | mornfall: K-office? ;) | 02:02 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: could you explain me Ridel's explanation above? After the release, the bugs are note supposed to be fixed? | 02:03 |
| Tm_T | ? | 02:04 |
| MidMark | Midmark: this is a screenshot after freeze -> http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p50900017ag.jpg | 02:04 |
| MidMark | wnat to say Riddell :p | 02:04 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: no, "fix released" if there's fix released, whatever it's dapper or not ;-P | 02:04 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: but "fix released", means the guy has to go on Dapper, huh = | 02:05 |
| OdyX | ? | 02:05 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: yes | 02:05 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: not "fixed" but "fix released" | 02:05 |
| Riddell | MidMark: and it freezes when you click the "Next" button? | 02:06 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: OK. Then it's backport team's work ? | 02:06 |
| MidMark | Riddell: exactly it freeze about 4-5 seconds after I click next to go from step 2 to 3 | 02:06 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: possibly | 02:06 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: Thanks. I will go on to close some bugs then ;-) | 02:07 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: heh | 02:07 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: ok, I check that k3b issue now | 02:07 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: Fine.. | 02:07 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: as you are on it.. try bug 31950 | 02:08 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 31950 in k3b "Dapper: k3b tries to burn DVD with file size exactly 2**32, doesn't warn, fails" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/31950 | 02:08 |
| MidMark | Riddell: if you want I can fill a bug for this | 02:09 |
| MidMark | Riddell: or try the cd-rom on my pc to see if it is an hardware problem | 02:10 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: I have nothing to burn to dvd | 02:10 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: btw looks like here it burns happily at 40x as it should | 02:11 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: and slowing speed ? | 02:11 |
| Tm_T | nope | 02:11 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: that's the bug, no ? | 02:11 |
| Tm_T | real speed is between 30x and 42x | 02:12 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: just one more detail... There is no state "Fixed" ... | 02:12 |
| Tm_T | :o | 02:12 |
| Tm_T | well, I don't really know =) | 02:12 |
| Riddell | MidMark: both would be good | 02:13 |
| Riddell | MidMark: you could also try a different language, although I doubt that's what the problem is | 02:13 |
| MidMark | Riddell: now I'm trying with my mouse, after I can try with my pc | 02:13 |
| OdyX | for example, bug 31001. It seems solved in Dapper, but dunno for Breezy. What should be done? Changing to "Fix Released" or/and noting it for Brrezy (I dunno howto) ? | 02:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 31001 in kdebase "Cannot switch keyboard variants as easily as keyboard layouts." [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/31001 | 02:14 |
| MidMark | Riddell: the problem is in my pc I don't want to install it yet | 02:14 |
| MidMark | and I have a fakeraid installed now | 02:14 |
| MidMark | :( | 02:14 |
| Tm_T | OdyX: hum, I commented that bug | 02:15 |
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| Riddell | MidMark: just going to the third page won't touch your PC | 02:15 |
| Tm_T | agh! I'm always mistyping in bug reports | 02:16 |
| MidMark | Riddell: ok, I'll report when done | 02:17 |
| Riddell | MidMark: thanks, much appreciated | 02:17 |
| MidMark | Riddell: I'm trying to report as bug as I can... Kubuntu will be my default OS | 02:18 |
| Riddell | raphink: do you have a floppy drive? | 02:20 |
| Riddell | or anyone else fancy looking at the media floppy fixes? | 02:21 |
| MidMark | Riddell: which bug? | 02:22 |
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| OdyX | Riddell & MidMark: bug 30207 | 02:25 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 30207 in kdebase "media:/ does not handle floppy mounting correctly" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30207 | 02:25 |
| raphink | Riddell: nope I don't | 02:25 |
| raphink | well I have a USB floppy drive, recognized as sda1 ;) | 02:25 |
| Riddell | nah, this is a floppy issue only | 02:25 |
| raphink | ok | 02:26 |
| Riddell | MidMark: do you have a floppy drive and a desire to try fishing out some patches to fix that problem? | 02:26 |
| raphink | I have had no floppy for years | 02:26 |
| raphink | sorry | 02:26 |
| Lathiat | i have a usb floppy | 02:26 |
| Lathiat | ah, doesnt help | 02:26 |
| Riddell | I have a drive here, but no disks | 02:26 |
| raphink | huhu | 02:26 |
| Riddell | Lathiat: it might do, give it a shot and see if you get that bug | 02:26 |
| raphink | I have disks | 02:26 |
| raphink | but no drive | 02:26 |
| Lathiat | whats the bug? | 02:27 |
| Lathiat | ah | 02:27 |
| Lathiat | hrm i dont have kubuntu on this machine atm | 02:27 |
| Lathiat | hah | 02:27 |
| Lathiat | i'l grab fl7 and install it | 02:27 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: what's problem with floppies? | 02:27 |
| MidMark | Riddell: I have floppy but can only run flight-7 live cd | 02:27 |
| Tm_T | I used my floppy drive just some time ago | 02:27 |
| MidMark | Riddell: ubiquity-> with english and my mouse NOT freezing | 02:27 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: media:/ doesn't work | 02:27 |
| Riddell | MidMark: interesting | 02:27 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: ah, I'll look at it | 02:28 |
| Riddell | MidMark: so question is whether the mouse or the italian is At fault | 02:28 |
| MidMark | now if I close ubiquity and reopen it, I can choose ita and A mouse ok? | 02:28 |
| Riddell | yes | 02:29 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: ah yes, this problem, now I remember why I did copy and all in bash =) | 02:29 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: test fix in kde bug report? | 02:30 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: it's in http://websvn.kde.org/branches/work/coolos_media/mediamanager/ | 02:30 |
| Riddell | looks like you need the recent changes to halbackend.cpp and halbackend.h | 02:30 |
| Tm_T | hum | 02:31 |
| kwwii | so either something is wrong with the CD burned or the ppc install is b0rked :-) | 02:32 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: hum, so I compile and install that or just take that latest change and try to put it to kdebase? | 02:32 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: get the diff out of websvn, apt-get source kdebase, apply diff, compile and see if it works | 02:34 |
| Riddell | then package it properly (diff in debian/patches, changelog) and send me debdiff | 02:34 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: aye sir :) | 02:35 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: thanks :) | 02:36 |
| MidMark | riddell: it freeze with ita and a mouse | 02:37 |
| MidMark | don't know if the ita package is broken on my cd | 02:37 |
| MidMark | someone could go to step 3 in live-flight-7 with ITA to confirm it? | 02:38 |
| Riddell | MidMark: I'll try it later today | 02:40 |
| MidMark | Riddell: ok so I wait for a bugreport^ | 02:40 |
| Riddell | MidMark: in the mean time feel free to try and complete an install in english, see what other problems you can find | 02:42 |
| MidMark | Riddell: if I have time I'll do, but often localized OSes has >= than default-lang | 02:43 |
| MidMark | >= bugs I mean | 02:43 |
| MidMark | now I have to go to the bank to pay my new TFT, good work! | 02:44 |
| Riddell | kwwii: can I put you down on the suggested people to invite to the ubuntu developer summit? | 02:47 |
| Riddell | june 18th to 24th, Paris | 02:47 |
| kwwii | Riddell: definitely :-) | 02:47 |
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| OdyX | Riddell: konversation will be added in Rosetta as every other KDE program, no ? | 03:08 |
| Riddell | OdyX: yes, I need to fix it today, along with some others https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MissingPotFiles | 03:09 |
| OdyX | Riddell: just a zh_CN wondering why not in Chinese. | 03:09 |
| OdyX | I comment and change the bug to "Work in Progress" ? | 03:10 |
| Riddell | OdyX: where? | 03:11 |
| OdyX | Riddell: just closed the tab. Wait | 03:12 |
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| OdyX | Riddell: bug 32939 | 03:25 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 32939 in konversation "konversation does not appear internationalized" [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/32939 | 03:25 |
| Riddell | thanks | 03:26 |
| Riddell | it's next on my todo list | 03:26 |
| OdyX | ;-) My TodoList is to get rid of 3000 "unconfirmed" ;-D | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | good luck OdyX :) | 03:27 |
| Riddell | OdyX: you rock :) | 03:27 |
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| OdyX | well... I just take Kde's ;D | 03:27 |
| freeflying | Riddell: hi | 03:29 |
| Riddell | hi freeflying | 03:30 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: so you can spend more time playing minesweeper on an unloaded machine yay! | 03:31 |
| freeflying | Riddell: how about the update-notifier in kubuntu livecd? | 03:31 |
| Riddell | freeflying: we need to look at casper and see how it gets disabled in gnome | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: hehe! | 03:31 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: how's your cupboard corpse btw? :) | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | no, i've learned NOT to play excessive amounts of minesweeper - RSI from it... | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | heh...rotting nicely.. | 03:32 |
| mornfall | good for it | 03:32 |
| mornfall | right now i'd vote for a dinner and bed | 03:32 |
| mornfall | shame it's only half past three pm | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | do my assignment, and i'll go to bed | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | ! | 03:34 |
| mornfall | that's very unlikely | 03:34 |
| mornfall | i can't very well even imagine the probability of all the electrons taking the right jumps to accomplish that | 03:34 |
| freeflying | Riddell: the scripts http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/191 | 03:35 |
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| Hobbsee | mornfall: hehe. even evil calculus? | 03:36 |
| mornfall | i suppose 0.1^googleplex is a very big number in comparison | 03:36 |
| Riddell | "rm /root/etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop" well that's easy :) | 03:37 |
| Riddell | freeflying: any idea how it gets put back after install? | 03:37 |
| freeflying | Riddell: no clue | 03:37 |
| mornfall | postinst? | 03:37 |
| Riddell | I presume there's another script to add it back | 03:38 |
| freeflying | Riddell: haven't found any :) | 03:38 |
| Riddell | hmm, spooky | 03:38 |
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| OdyX | Riddell: for bug 35786, is kaffeine still default ? | 03:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 35786 in kdebase "konqueror with kaffeine-xine plugin crashes on certain sites" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35786 | 03:39 |
| freeflying | Riddell: dose espresso copy the mounted dir to hdd, or use the squashfs file? | 03:40 |
| Riddell | OdyX: kaffeine is no longer default | 03:40 |
| Riddell | OdyX: but the bug still exists so we can't close it | 03:40 |
| OdyX | Riddell: OK. I will mention the fact in comments. | 03:40 |
| Riddell | freeflying: I though it copied the mounted directory but I could be wrong | 03:40 |
| Riddell | lets ask someone who knows | 03:41 |
| freeflying | okey, waitting for your confirm, or I'd file bug on it | 03:41 |
| Riddell | freeflying: can you get a diff of that file to add a line removing the adept-updater autostart too? | 03:43 |
| freeflying | Riddell: sure | 03:43 |
| mornfall | updater autostart? | 03:43 |
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| freeflying | mornfall: in livecd | 03:43 |
| mornfall | you mean notifier? | 03:43 |
| OdyX | Bye all. Seeya later. | 03:44 |
| freeflying | OdyX: bye | 03:44 |
| Riddell | adept-notifier I mean | 03:44 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: bug 43806 | 04:08 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 43806 in casper "kubuntu livecd's update_notifier need been disable" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43806 | 04:08 |
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| Riddell | hi yogi q | 04:30 |
| yogi | Hey-hey, Riddell! Whassup? | 04:30 |
| Riddell | word on the streets is that kmail filters aren't working | 04:31 |
| yogi | Uh-oh... word travels fast. ;-) Yep... I submitted the bug# 39944 some time back, was given a provisional confirmation & asked for my kmailrc to make certain rules were correct. Never heard back. | 04:32 |
| Riddell | I've not had time to look into it | 04:32 |
| yogi | Fact is, these same rules worked in Breezy & earlier versions of KDE. Now, they don't. | 04:32 |
| Riddell | and probably won't be able to today | 04:32 |
| Riddell | we can poke danimo when we turns up | 04:32 |
| yogi | Can I send you my kmailrc file for your inspection? | 04:32 |
| Riddell | yogi: so it's just for your specific rules? | 04:33 |
| Riddell | yogi: is it attached to the bug? | 04:33 |
| yogi | Yep... I have several POP rules & other filters ...and none work. Nope... not attached. I'll do that. | 04:33 |
| yogi | It was reported on 4/17, and Rocco Stanzione stated he'd suspected it. Not quite a confirmation. | 04:35 |
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| MidMark | Riddell: I've done the same thing on my pc, with ITA I can go to step 3 | 04:41 |
| MidMark | so now I cannot know what is the problem | 04:41 |
| MidMark | ram? | 04:41 |
| yogi | Riddell:I don't want to be a PITA ...however, the fact that they do not work is *definitely* a PITA. :-\ The file is attached ...and I found that I had already copied/pasted. You got two copies. ;-) | 04:44 |
| Riddell | how much memory does your PC have MidMark ? | 04:44 |
| Riddell | yogi: yes, it's an important bug I agree | 04:45 |
| MidMark | the PC that freeze with ITA and not with ENG -> 192 MB | 04:45 |
| MidMark | my PC that doesn't freeze -> 1 GB | 04:45 |
| yogi | Riddell:It'd be great if this was fixed b-4 the release date. :-) Good luck!! ...and Thanks!!! | 04:45 |
| yogi | bye... | 04:45 |
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| Riddell | MidMark: and you've ruled out it being the mouse? | 04:46 |
| MidMark | yes the mouse doesn't change things, the last thing I can do is trying the burner instead reader... | 04:46 |
| MidMark | to read the CD | 04:46 |
| Riddell | so probably memory :( | 04:47 |
| Riddell | MidMark: can you try it with the gtk frontend? | 04:47 |
| MidMark | Riddell: I have to download the ubuntu cd? | 04:47 |
| Riddell | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubiqiuty-frontend-gtk && kdesu ubiquity gtk | 04:47 |
| Riddell | no, kubuntu cd will be fine, unless it runs out of "disk" space | 04:48 |
| MidMark | that it's all in ram isn't? | 04:48 |
| Riddell | s/gtk/gtkui/ | 04:48 |
| MidMark | but can I see the ram during loading step 3? Is reliable? | 04:49 |
| Riddell | df -h . possibly | 04:51 |
| MidMark | Riddell: point me to the packages to download manually, I haven't internet on the other pc, so I can use usb | 04:52 |
| Riddell | probably can't do it then, it'll need a tonne of gtk dependencies | 04:53 |
| MidMark | mmm so df -h? | 04:53 |
| Riddell | df -h . will say how much "disk" space you have | 04:54 |
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| MidMark | not ram? | 04:55 |
| Riddell | on a live CD they're much the same thing | 04:58 |
| Riddell | free gives memory | 04:58 |
| MidMark | to auto-update df-h ? | 04:59 |
| Riddell | I don't follow | 05:00 |
| MidMark | there is "tail" for df -h ? | 05:01 |
| Riddell | could try watch | 05:01 |
| MidMark | that update it before freeze | 05:01 |
| Riddell | `watch df -h .` | 05:01 |
| MidMark | ok | 05:01 |
| mornfall | watch is generally useful utility ;) | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: thanks, i was looking for that! | 05:10 |
| MidMark | I have to see to / ? | 05:13 |
| MidMark | or which line in df -h ? | 05:13 |
| Riddell | MidMark: add a "." | 05:14 |
| MidMark | ok | 05:14 |
| MidMark | damn! I haven't enough time to alt-tab to konsole that was under ubiquity... and it freeze! | 05:19 |
| MidMark | the pc is too slow! | 05:19 |
| MidMark | before click to step 3 it says 88% used, 57 MB free | 05:20 |
| MidMark | after clicking I don't knwo | 05:20 |
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| MidMark | try again... | 05:29 |
| Riddell | MidMark: try doing a tail -f /var/log/syslog too | 05:32 |
| MidMark | ok I'll do it again, but I need a mouse... try with mine, hotplugging ps/w works? | 05:35 |
| MidMark | Riddell: it freeze with 78/647 MB free 12% | 05:40 |
| MidMark | syslog is identical like the photo provided before | 05:41 |
| MidMark | http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p50900017ag.jpg | 05:41 |
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| MidMark | the strange thing it's the memory is free for 12% from the start to the freeze, it never changed | 05:46 |
| MidMark | it say unionfs | 05:47 |
| MidMark | Riddell: wait for order :) | 05:52 |
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| Riddell | MidMark: hmm, I'm out of ideas | 06:12 |
| Riddell | MidMark: other than suggesting downloading the ubuntu CD and seeing if it has the same problem | 06:12 |
| MidMark | Riddell: ok I can do, last test! | 06:14 |
| === OdyX closed 4 bugs today, by "waking up" bug reporters. | ||
| === Riddell hugs OdyX | ||
| OdyX | Riddell: you should wait tomorrow, it's hug day ;-) | 06:19 |
| OdyX | But thanks though | 06:19 |
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| Riddell | mornfall: did you do the new adept tar? | 06:34 |
| mornfall | Riddell: not yet :\ | 06:34 |
| mornfall | i just got home | 06:34 |
| mornfall | and want to eat | 06:34 |
| Riddell | I'm probably out for some of this evening | 06:34 |
| mornfall | i'll try to persuade myself that it needs to be done right after food | 06:34 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: is there some near deadline? when is the RC flight? | 06:35 |
| Riddell | not for a bit, I was just checking incase I'd missed one you'd made | 06:35 |
| mornfall | like, i can do it tonight and you can pick it up tomorrow or something | 06:35 |
| Riddell | May 25th | 06:36 |
| mornfall | Riddell: if you are going to be away, i can mail you an url | 06:36 |
| OdyX | Riddell: If you have time, probably related with media:/ "crap", bug 43311 | 06:36 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 43311 in meta-kde "Impossible to read DVD-video's content" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43311 | 06:36 |
| mornfall | Riddell: plenty of time then, even in case problems pop up with rc1 of adept | 06:36 |
| Riddell | CD candidates would start 23rd | 06:40 |
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| pygi | Riddell: poke | 06:41 |
| pygi | please take a look at | 06:42 |
| pygi | http://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/app.html?csaid=yuriy.kozlov@gmail.com:16485917:52b034bb | 06:42 |
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| Riddell | "Kubuntu Printing with CUPS 1.2" interesting | 06:47 |
| OdyX | :D | 06:47 |
| Riddell | but he'd do better applying to KDE to find a good mentor for it | 06:47 |
| pygi | Riddell, indeed, but considering he applied here, perhaps you could mentor him? | 06:48 |
| Riddell | yes, trouble is there's a few like that | 06:48 |
| Riddell | and I doubt we'll get more than a couple kubuntu projects | 06:49 |
| Riddell | I havn't heard back from the floppy fomatting guy | 06:49 |
| pygi | indeed :-/ | 06:49 |
| Riddell | I'll look at them all tomorrow once applications are closed | 06:49 |
| pygi | I just looked over all the applications, and a very lill' number is for kubuntu | 06:49 |
| pygi | oki Riddell | 06:49 |
| pygi | even those that are for Kubuntu, are duplicates | 06:50 |
| pygi | Riddell: I have another one | 06:55 |
| pygi | http://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/app.html?csaid=yuriy.kozlov@gmail.com:163a367b:88d89396 | 06:55 |
| Riddell | I recognise that e-mail address :) | 06:55 |
| pygi | who is he? :) | 06:56 |
| Riddell | "KControl/KDE-guidance module for Wine" hmm | 06:56 |
| Riddell | pygi: same guy as the last application you pointed out :) | 06:56 |
| === _Sime is not against that idea. In fact he has been playing with wine lately. | ||
| Riddell | doesn't sound like a summer's worth of work though | 06:57 |
| pygi | Riddell, aah, yes, indeed :) | 06:57 |
| Riddell | _Sime: did you see the one I posted this morning? http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/soc2.png | 06:58 |
| _Sime | nope, not unless you try to create installers etc for a heap of windows software and games. | 06:58 |
| _Sime | someone asked me about writing a init* config thingy for guidance. | 06:58 |
| _Sime | in C++. | 06:58 |
| _Sime | I don't know if is the sam person. | 06:59 |
| Riddell | _Sime: ah, the module would bittorrent your chosen game from the best warez sites, good idea | 06:59 |
| Riddell | an initng guidance module would depend on whether we used initng in edgy | 06:59 |
| _Sime | has that been decided yet? | 06:59 |
| Riddell | nope | 07:00 |
| _Sime | also... | 07:00 |
| _Sime | do you know why I can't upload .po files to rosetta? | 07:00 |
| _Sime | and are things being actively translated now? | 07:00 |
| Riddell | _Sime: seems Edgy won't use initNG | 07:01 |
| _Sime | oh, pity. | 07:01 |
| Riddell | _Sime: things are being actively translated yes | 07:01 |
| Riddell | upload translations, or templates? | 07:01 |
| _Sime | "Uplaod a file" ==> "NOt allowed here" | 07:04 |
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| MidMark | Riddell: it seems to freeze also with ubuntu flight-7 and choosing ITA | 07:05 |
| MidMark | different burned cd, so I think it isn't a media problem | 07:05 |
| Riddell | _Sime: where? | 07:05 |
| Riddell | MidMark: oh good not my fault then :) | 07:06 |
| _Sime | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kde-guidance/+pots/guidance | 07:06 |
| MidMark | Riddell: so I can report to Malone? | 07:07 |
| Riddell | _Sime: are you uploading a template or a translation? | 07:07 |
| Riddell | MidMark: yes please do | 07:07 |
| MidMark | Riddell: ok | 07:07 |
| _Sime | Riddell: well, I can't get to an upload form, so it doesn't really matter yet. | 07:07 |
| Riddell | true | 07:11 |
| Riddell | carlos will know the details but I guess .pots can only be uploaded by elite people, and .po's by people who are on the translation team | 07:11 |
| OdyX | Riddell: seems to, yep. I could upload .po for koffice. | 07:12 |
| _Sime | Riddell: oh, then I need someone to upload the .pot from guidance. The .pot in the tarball is up to date BTW. | 07:14 |
| Riddell | if there's a .pot in the tar we just need to poke carlos to load it into rosetta | 07:14 |
| Riddell | _Sime: is the problem that the .pot in rosetta is out of date? | 07:17 |
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| _Sime | it might be, but I can't tell because I have no idea when it was last uploaded. | 07:18 |
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| === _Sime needs to go to the shops. food. | ||
| MidMark | bug 43841 | 07:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 43841 in ubiquity "Ubiquity freeze during loading step 3 (Ubuntu AND Kubuntu flight-7)" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43841 | 07:20 |
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| Riddell | _Sime: well you can look at the strings it has. but rosetta will sync the .pot files each time the package is uploaded so it should be up to date | 07:23 |
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| dinofly | hello | 07:51 |
| freeflying-ibook | dinofly: hi | 07:52 |
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| kmon | hi | 07:59 |
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| Tonio_ | hi everyone | 08:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 08:19 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tonio_: have you noticed that kio_beagle will search in system directions | 08:27 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying-ibook: fepends on the beagled configuration I assume | 08:28 |
| Tonio_ | depends | 08:28 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tonio_: I've excluded all system dirs | 08:28 |
| kmon | Tonio_: did anyone managed to separate gtk dependencies on beagle so installing kerry doesn't install them? | 08:29 |
| freeflying-ibook | kmon: seems jpatrick works on | 08:29 |
| kmon | freeflying-ibook: thanks | 08:29 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying-ibook: I personnaly don't mind ;) I don't use beagle, but I don't find that shocking that it can search in the full system | 08:29 |
| Tonio_ | kmon: I asked for this, but I was told that it will be done "in the future" | 08:30 |
| Tonio_ | means that if we don't insist hard, that may never happen ;) | 08:30 |
| Tonio_ | too late for dapper btw | 08:30 |
| Tonio_ | but we need to keep in touch concerning this for edgy | 08:30 |
| kmon | I hope kde people bring a better desktop search solution | 08:30 |
| Tonio_ | kmon: there is kat, wich works very nicelly | 08:31 |
| Tonio_ | but the point is that it would be nice to have the same backend for gnome and kde | 08:31 |
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| Tonio_ | going onto 2 different technologies........... would be a pain | 08:32 |
| kmon | I went to ask about kat in their chat room | 08:32 |
| kmon | and they say they were a bit stalled | 08:32 |
| superstoned | hey riddell, great job on the liveinstaller ;-) | 08:32 |
| superstoned | looks cool | 08:32 |
| superstoned | very cool | 08:32 |
| superstoned | tough it bails out on custom partition setup (bug already there in bugdatabase) | 08:33 |
| superstoned | and i still think we could work a bit on the style (polyester and round top corners windeco) | 08:33 |
| freeflying-ibook | kmon: Huahua has a project writen in python , for index-search | 08:33 |
| kmon | it would be nice if all this desktop search ideas came together into a single app | 08:34 |
| kmon | but it won't happen... | 08:34 |
| kmon | I want to translate my recent addition to kubuntu | 08:38 |
| kmon | the send via email service menu | 08:38 |
| kmon | can someone refreshme how to do a debdiff? | 08:38 |
| freeflying-ibook | kmon: debdiff old.dsc new.dsc > outfile | 08:39 |
| kmon | thanks | 08:40 |
| kmon | arrg | 08:48 |
| kmon | which is first, dch or debuild? | 08:50 |
| freeflying-ibook | kmon: dch | 08:53 |
| kmon | freeflying-ibook: thanks | 08:53 |
| freeflying-ibook | then debuild | 08:53 |
| kmon | trial and error gave me the solution ;) | 08:53 |
| kmon | Riddell: I've sent the spanish translation of the email.desktop service menu | 08:55 |
| kmon | and I've send it using that same service menu | 08:55 |
| kmon | hehe | 08:55 |
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| kmon | cannonical should invite aseigo to the paris summit. He's been talking nice about kubuntu on his blog and the dot | 09:11 |
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| bddebian | Howdy folks | 09:25 |
| kmon | hi bddebian | 09:25 |
| bddebian | Any of you have any thoughts about konqplus? I think we should remove it since both it and a build-dep (keasydlg) have been dropped from Debian? | 09:25 |
| kmon | what's konqplus? | 09:27 |
| bddebian | No freakin clue :-) | 09:27 |
| kmon | Aptitude reports: "Konqplus add some function to context menu" | 09:29 |
| kmon | it's seems to be a package of extensions to konqueror | 09:30 |
| kmon | the package contains information on the current functionality | 09:31 |
| bddebian | Yeah well good luck building it :-) | 09:31 |
| kmon | err | 09:31 |
| kmon | no thanks ;) | 09:31 |
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| kmon | bddebian: are you a debian kde maintainer? | 09:37 |
| kmon | (just curious) | 09:37 |
| bddebian | Know, I'm just a (l)user :-) | 09:37 |
| bddebian | And MOTU | 09:37 |
| kmon | kubuntu user or ubuntu user? ;) | 09:38 |
| bddebian | Both now :-) | 09:38 |
| allee | bddebian: we welcome (l)user too :) | 09:42 |
| bddebian | :-) | 09:42 |
| kwwii | evening | 10:14 |
| bddebian | Hello kwwii | 10:15 |
| kwwii | bddebian: howdy | 10:15 |
| kwwii | well flight7 works worse on my laptop than before | 10:23 |
| kwwii | so why does adept say "BREAK(install)" in red letters when i try to install a package? | 10:32 |
| mornfall | i suppose it's broken | 10:33 |
| mornfall | (the package) | 10:33 |
| kwwii | but I mean in the list itself, request install leads to that | 10:34 |
| kwwii | wow | 10:36 |
| kwwii | guess os | 10:36 |
| kwwii | so | 10:36 |
| kwwii | so flight7 is pretty much still unusable | 10:36 |
| kwwii | nasty | 10:36 |
| kwwii | at least, I certainly have the wrong hardware for this stuff | 10:37 |
| kwwii | oh well | 10:37 |
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| nikikko | Hi all | 11:07 |
| nikikko | I had a really strange bug with KPresenter and french locale | 11:07 |
| nikikko | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126990 | 11:07 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 126990 in general "points are saved with , instead of . in e.g. french locale" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 11:07 |
| nikikko | I think the fix should be beckported in kubuntu dapper | 11:07 |
| nikikko | Because all my presentation are messy under open office or kpresenter with an us locale | 11:08 |
| nikikko | Which is really bad for OpenDocument | 11:08 |
| nikikko | Is it possible or is it too late ? | 11:09 |
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| kmon | nikikko: don't know, maybe Riddell can tell. If it's too late, there's a good chance to have koffice 1.5.1 (first point release) for dapper. | 11:11 |
| nikikko | kmon: ok, thank you... | 11:12 |
| Lure | nikikko: is bug already opened in Launchpad - if not, you should open it and link to KDE bug entry | 11:15 |
| nikikko | Lure: no, not in launchpad, I'll open one | 11:15 |
| nikikko | I really hope koffice 1.5.1 can go in dapper... | 11:16 |
| Lure | nikikko: please do so - if it is not in LP it will probably be missed... (not that it will get in if it is there though ;-)) | 11:17 |
| kmon | hi Lure | 11:19 |
| Lure | hi kmon | 11:20 |
| kmon | my .desktop file is in dapper ;) | 11:20 |
| Lure | kmon: you see how easy it is to contribute ;-) | 11:21 |
| kmon | yes, you are very helpfull here | 11:22 |
| kmon | I'm wouldn't mind help porting the hardware tool in ubuntu to pyqt | 11:23 |
| kmon | but I've no idea of pyqt :) | 11:23 |
| Lure | kmon: what kind of hardware tool? | 11:25 |
| kmon | ubuntu has a python tool to submit hw info to the devs | 11:26 |
| kmon | I don't know the name, but it's been there since the first releases | 11:26 |
| kmon | it's basically a tool to test if sounds ok, mouse, keyboard, etc | 11:26 |
| nikikko | Lure : bug #43887, thank you | 11:27 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 43887 in koffice "In OpenDocuement file, points are saved with "," instead of "." in e.g. french locale" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43887 | 11:27 |
| nikikko | by all | 11:29 |
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| kmon | good night everyone | 11:31 |
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