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BlissexSuperK: well, if you upgraded etc. it just ''should work''.12:03
SuperKthe CTRL-c command?12:04
SuperKI just don't have an icon for it in any of my menus, I had it in Hoary though12:04
SuperKwhat does the CTRL-c command do? And where do I use it?12:05
mustard5Do they have some type of menu editor in KDE, SuperK ?12:07
SuperKprobably but I wouldn't know where :)12:08
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mustard5SuperK, hehe..yeah..there are a lot of menus in KDE :)12:08
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SuperKRight, I was expecting just to see it under 'system' or utilities12:09
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SuperKI mean it's obviously installed, just no icon12:09
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SuperKand no menu entry12:09
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mustard5SuperK, I'm just reading a thread on kcontrol atm... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17052612:15
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mustard5SuperK, seems that is just the way its sets up...as in this thread they talk about loading it via command line too12:15
SuperKI'll check it out too12:15
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SuperKhmmm interesting, maybe kcontrol doesn't come with it by default12:17
mustard5yeah...12:17
mustard5just going offline...sister wants to call on phone line :)12:18
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SuperKBut I should be able to put it in my menus or desktop I would think12:18
SuperKreading further12:18
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_pedroGood night12:20
_pedroI am looking for repositories to install kmplayer with aptitude12:21
_pedroI cannot find it12:21
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SuperKguess I'll just have to alt-f212:22
SuperKIll be back later, got some stuff to do...thanks again12:23
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_pedrowould I do it installing from Marillat's repositories?12:32
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yanis_good news12:49
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mzuverinkI am using dapper, did a server install, added ubuntu-desktop and then kubuntu-desktop. All the multimedia application installed by ubuntu-desktop fuction properly, however all kubuntu-desktop multimedia apps fail to play any media.  They just quickly speed through a song or movie and then off to the next playlist item without making any sound or video.01:12
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antx!mp301:22
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:22
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mzuverinkAnyone got any ideas why none  of the KDE multimedia apps will play multimedia for me? They just quickly speed through and go off to the next on the playlist.01:25
KyralNo codec for said file :P01:26
mzuverinkKyral:  I have the whole lot, good bad and ugly and they play proper in gnome apps01:26
Kyralthen change Kaffiene/Amarok over to GStreamer's engine01:27
mzuverinkKyral: I try that, thanks01:27
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mzuverinkKyral: gstreamer is not an option anywhere as I can tell and I do not see it anywhere in the repos for dapper for either kaffiene or amarok01:30
mzuverinkKyral: only arts and xine01:31
oknewbieDoes anyone here know how to cofigure xorg to use the Radeon driver?01:31
Kyralactivate Uni and Multi01:31
KyralIts there, I know it is01:31
mzuverinkthey are active and they are not there01:32
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duckdownHow would I run my 'wpa_supplicant -Dmadwifi -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' at runtime?01:32
Kyraldunno01:32
KyralI know I got it running01:32
Kyralbefore I jumped to Arch01:32
Kyralin that case just install libxine-extracodecs01:32
mzuverinkI do not see them anywhere01:32
mzuverinktrying that now01:33
mzuverinkthat worked, thanks Kyral01:34
Kyralnp01:34
bimberiduckdown: at system boot? add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh01:35
duckdownbimberi: Let me check it out, thanks man01:35
duckdownbimberi: yeah at system boot01:35
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bimberiduckdown: np :)01:37
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thev"configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" anyone know what's causing this when I try ./configure?03:40
erovdo you have all of the gcc-* packages installed03:42
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theverov - yeah03:52
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johnny3dhello I have done research on getting sound in kubuntu.  I have discovered that I don't have the /dev/audio directory.  Should I simply make the directory?04:15
NoUsejohnny3d do you have /dev/dsp ?04:15
johnny3dno, I don't, NoUse04:16
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crimsunjohnny3d: /dev/{audio,mixer,dsp} are deprecated; they're oss-specific. We use alsa instead of oss.04:16
NoUse!tell johnny3d about sound04:17
crimsun(granted /dev/{audio,mixer,dsp} should exist because we unconditionally load snd_pcm_oss...)04:17
NoUsejohnny3d try the debuggingsoudn link ubotu sent you04:17
johnny3dwill do, thankyou04:17
crimsunum, that debugging info needs to be revamped.04:18
crimsunjohnny3d: pastebin the info from ``lspci -nv && lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''04:19
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johnny3dok, crimsun standby04:21
johnny3dcrimsun, NoUse, http://pastebin.com/70671104:25
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crimsunjohnny3d: how new is the motherboard?04:26
johnny3dcrimsun, a month old but it was sold cheap because no floppy04:27
crimsunjohnny3d: link me to the manufacturer's Web page for specs04:27
johnny3dok04:28
crimsunyour hardware's pci ids aren't even listed, but my guess is it's either ac97 or hda04:29
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johnny3dcrimsun, i have the spec book04:35
johnny3dcrimsun, it is ac9704:38
johnny3dhttp://www.valuelist.co.uk/ProductDetailPage.asp?guid=&ticketid=0&productID=284704:38
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timHow do I upgrade from kubuntu 5.10 to kubuntu 6.0604:39
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crimsun!tell tim about upgrade04:41
crimsunjohnny3d: sec.04:41
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crimsunjohnny3d: pastebin lsmod, please04:54
johnny3dcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/70675504:56
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crimsunjohnny3d: ``sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0''04:58
johnny3dcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/70675604:59
crimsunjohnny3d: pastebin ``dmesg''05:00
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johnny3dcrimsun,05:02
johnny3dhttp://pastebin.com/70675705:02
johnny3dthankyou very much for your help thus far05:03
crimsunjohnny3d: hmm, is this a default breezy install, or did you compile your own kernel?05:03
johnny3dcrimsun, default05:03
crimsunwhere is it getting device_mode from?05:04
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johnny3dI don't understand the question05:04
crimsunnevermind05:04
crimsunneed lsmod again05:04
johnny3dcrimsun, I went into BIOS earlier and changed the esd to pci     http://pastebin.com/70675905:06
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crimsunjohnny3d: sudo modprobe -r snd_ac97_bus snd_page_alloc05:10
johnny3ddone, with no reaction, crimsun05:11
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crimsunjohnny3d: good. Now, sudo depmod -e05:15
crimsunjohnny3d: after that, sudo modprobe snd_intel8x005:15
johnny3dcrimsun, sudo depmod -e freezes the shell05:18
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crimsunjohnny3d: mm, ok, that's a sign of a larger problem. Has it finished yet and returned to a prompt?05:18
johnny3dyes05:19
johnny3dcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/70676805:21
crimsunjohnny3d: run that modprobe -r command again05:22
crimsunjohnny3d: afterward, this time, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel05:22
johnny3dcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/70677005:24
johnny3dcrimsun, I don't know if this is related but at startup PCMCIA doesn't load05:26
crimsunjohnny3d: can you try booting with "acpi=off"?05:28
johnny3dI can try05:28
johnny3dbrb05:28
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tweeksalut05:30
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kkathmanyo C-O-L-T :)05:35
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robotgeekyo kkathman05:35
johnny3dcrimsun, done05:35
kkathmanhi robotgeek05:36
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johnny3dam running without acpi, crimsun05:47
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crimsunjohnny3d: what happens when you modprobe snd-intel8x0 ?05:48
imbrandonhmmm use php-qt becouse i know php , or learn python python-qt ;)05:49
johnny3dcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/70679505:49
DeshOk, How do I install the sources for my kernel, k7, in order to use ndiswrapper?05:50
Deshln -s /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version> /lib/modules/VERSION/build  <-- Does not work05:50
epOn boot up, fsck was run because one of my volumes (not sure which, how do i tell?) was mounted more than thirty times... This is not unusual (i boot daily) but this time it failed.  I'm not sure how to run fsck on a mounted file system. What should I do?05:50
imbrandonDesh: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`05:50
crimsunjohnny3d: urg. I'm guessing it doesn't work with Breezy either?05:51
johnny3dcrimsun, nope05:51
DeshWhy would installing usbmgr kill my USB access, CD's autoloading anf ndiswrapper?05:51
Desh*and05:51
DeshIt still won;t work...05:52
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fatejudgerthe new updated samba tutorial STILL doesn't have information pertaining to loading Samba shares at boot05:53
fatejudgerI haven't come up with a way to do it using guest access myself05:53
fatejudgereverything requires passwords05:53
kkathmanhowdy fatejudger :)05:53
fatejudgerhas anyone had any more luck than I have?05:53
fatejudgerkkathman: hey05:53
kkathmanfatejudger:  you have to mostly just set those up in the fstab, and of course create a mount point05:54
fatejudgerI did05:54
fatejudgerI can make it work by setting up a samba username and password05:54
fatejudgerand supplying some sort of credentials05:54
kkathmanright05:54
fatejudgerbut it won't works as a guest05:54
fatejudger*work05:54
kkathmanit really shouldnt need to05:55
fatejudgerduring boot at least05:55
fatejudgerit SHOULD05:55
fatejudgerthere should be some way of doing it05:55
kkathmani mean you dont need the "guest"05:55
crimsunjohnny3d: does it have other Linux drivers?05:55
fatejudgerkkathman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently05:55
fatejudgerif you use mount -a, it works05:55
fatejudgerbut it's never successful loading them at boot05:56
imbrandonfatejudger: you just want to mount a samba share in fstab ?05:56
fatejudgeryeah05:56
kkathmanright thats what I do manually05:56
fatejudgerwith GUEST access05:56
johnny3dcrimsun, breezy?  It had different default drivers, yes.05:56
kkathmanbut I have never needed the GUEST access05:56
fatejudgerno passwords05:56
imbrandonmake sure smbfs is install and use a line like this in your fstab , one sec05:56
fatejudgerwell most Windows shares are like that05:56
imbrandonahh guest? no way05:56
crimsunjohnny3d: which default sound drivers were used?05:56
kkathmanI set the credentials, etc and set the settings in the smb.ini05:56
johnny3dcrimsun, alsa, oss05:56
imbrandonsmb.ini is for local shares not ones you connect to05:57
fatejudgersee, it's stupid that it can't do that05:57
imbrandonno its insecure that you cant do that ;)05:57
fatejudgerSamba attempts to provide a means to access netbios shares05:57
fatejudgerit should do it in a way that's standard05:57
crimsunjohnny3d: I mean the actual alsa driver, like snd_intel8x0 or snd_hda_intel, etc.05:58
johnny3dcrimsun, that I don't know05:58
kkathmanif you are trying to access a linux directory from windows, you have to set up the credentials and the smb.ini05:58
DeshMake sure there is a link to the kernel source from the modules directory. /lib/modules/VERSION/build should be a link to the kernel source05:58
imbrandonfatejudger: use soemthing like this in fstab with smbfs installed ( //bob/d       /mnt/bob       smbfs    user,uid=brandon,gid=admin,rw,username=brandon,password=<yourpass>    0       0 )05:58
DeshWhen I try to add the link it says file not found.05:58
kkathmanif you are going the other way, then you need only set the directory/folder on the Windows box to share and give it a share name05:59
fatejudgerimbrandon: I've done it that way before, but I just can't understand why you need to supply credentials like that06:00
fatejudgerthat alone seems like the security risk06:00
fatejudgernot the guest access06:00
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maxtorhi...06:00
imbrandonnot if you have your network setup right and perms right on your boxes ;)06:00
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fatejudgerI'm just surprised no one has thought of this06:01
imbrandonit has been thought of, its insecure06:01
maxtorsomebody knows how to put path and classpath for java in ubuntu?06:01
johnny3dcrimsun, am I screwed?06:01
fatejudgerhow is that insecure?06:01
crimsunjohnny3d: ok, I have to head home from work now, but I'll look later and see if I can find some information. In the meantime, please file a bug on Malone against linux-source-2.6.15 and attach the information I've asked of you. (Be sure to attach, not comment inline.)06:01
fatejudgerinsecure is putting your credentials in plaintext in your samba config file06:02
johnny3dcrimsun,06:02
johnny3dok06:02
imbrandonthats not in the samba config , its in fstab06:02
fatejudgerstill06:02
imbrandonand if you think about it you setup accounts on the windows box for just that access06:02
fatejudgeryou don't need root permissions to view it06:02
imbrandonbut you need access to my linux box, whereas if you have a windows guest account setup i could mount your windows drive orver the network06:03
johnny3dlink, crimsun ?06:03
johnny3dand, thankyou very mcuh for your help06:03
crimsun!bugs06:03
fatejudgerimbrandon: of course06:03
fatejudgerimbrandon: but how would someone go about connecting to my network?06:04
crimsunjohnny3d: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug06:04
imbrandondepends o the setup, but its inharently insecure, thus the answer to your question06:04
johnny3dthankyou crimsun06:04
imbrandoni dont have time to argure about it here, i was just trying to give you your anwser06:04
fatejudgerthere are plenty of ways to make a computer insecure, including a Linux box06:05
imbrandonyes there are, but why do it intentionaly06:05
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fatejudgerif you're smart enough to use Linux, you're smart enough to make choices06:05
fatejudgerend users should be allowed to decide what THEY feel is an acceptable level of security06:05
khaijei'm sure that used to be more true than it is now06:06
fatejudgerkhaije: I wouldn't doubt that statement06:06
imbrandonfatejudger: thats the great thing about oss, submit a patch to samba then ;)06:06
fatejudgerthere are more n00bs than ever now06:06
fatejudgerimbrandon: it probably wouldn't be accepted06:06
fatejudgerimbrandon: just for the reasons you previously stated06:07
imbrandonthats exactly my point, thus i was trying to help you not get you on some self rightious kick06:07
khaijethats the drawback of courting the masses, but the beautiful desktop i'm using now is a benefit06:07
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imbrandon;)06:08
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imbrandonto get onto a new subject ;) khaije: check this kde XPish desktop ( to windows ish for most "hardcore" linux users although i dont know exactly what that means since i've been using linux only for years ;) ) http://imbrandon.sytes.net/snapshot1.png06:10
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kkathmanhehe.. if the icons were a little smaller it would be pretty close :)06:11
imbrandon;)06:11
fatejudgerI can't stand Windows Glass06:12
fatejudgerI guess I'm just a huge fan of plastik06:13
imbrandon;)06:13
khaijeimbrandon: the clone has surpassed the master haha!06:13
imbrandonfunny thing is it CAN run on my 333mhz with 32mb ram too lol ( this box isnt but i have one in the basement that is ;)06:14
fatejudgerno way06:14
fatejudgerKubuntu can barely run on my laptop06:14
imbrandondo that with xp media center ( the theme that i based that on )06:14
fatejudgerand that's 2.4 ghz celeron06:14
fatejudgerwith six hundred and something mb of RAM06:14
fatejudger64006:15
imbrandonfatejudger:  i have it running smooth on a 333 with 32mb ram, and this is a 2.8 ghz with 1.2gb ram and it flies06:15
khaijeexec free06:15
fatejudgerheh, the latter is about the same specs as I have on this machine06:15
fatejudgerand yeah, it does work amazingly well06:15
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fatejudgerbut my laptop takes forever to boot06:15
fatejudgerand KWord is really laggy for some reason06:15
fatejudgerwhich makes me sad, because I love KOffice06:15
fatejudgerinput to screen is about 1 second off06:16
imbrandonhmm06:16
fatejudgerin the worst case06:16
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fatejudgerI have the Dapper Alpha on it though06:16
fatejudgerso I may try reinstalling06:16
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khaijei have a p3 1ghz, w/ 256mb ram, and it runs v well06:17
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imbrandonfatejudger: jsut apt-get dist-upgrade ;)06:17
fatejudgerI did06:18
fatejudgerI do it all the time06:18
imbrandoninfact from my apache logs someone here needs to do an apt-get dist-upgrade ;) "Kubuntu 6.04 Dapper"06:18
khaijefatejudger: you may also want to very that dma is activated for the harddisk06:19
imbrandonfatejudger: then you are at the latest , its not alpa anymore06:19
khaije*verify06:19
fatejudgerkhaije: was that off during the Alpha?06:19
imbrandonits off default always06:19
khaijei don't specificaly know, but if the memory size is an issue it will need quick swap space06:20
fatejudgerlike I said, it has 640 mb of RAM06:20
fatejudgerit barely uses 40006:20
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khaijefatejudger: oooh! i read that wrong the first time06:21
fatejudgeraptitude isn't perfect, sometimes config files are left on machine from alpha versions06:21
fatejudgera reinstall might do the trick06:21
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_stevenhey can anyone give me some quick help with xorg.conf06:28
_steveni want to make sure im using the highest possible bit depth06:28
_stevenbut there are at least 4 different bit depths in my xorg.conf06:28
_stevenhow do i know which ones to change?06:29
rafhello06:35
rafhello! can anyone help me with the sound in Kubuntu?06:35
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DeshHow do I add wlan0 to my iwconfig list?06:36
DeshI just installed ndiswrapper and the correct driver for my WLAN card, but wlan0 is not part of iwconfig?06:37
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khaijea couple questions: what does katapult do? and what is the reccomended setup for sound (currently using gstreamer -> alsasink)06:37
lunitikkhaije: katapult simply launches applications... (nifty naming imo :P)06:38
lunitikkhaije: as for sound... depends on needs... gstreamer is fine... but xine supports more codecs (indirectly)06:39
khaijelunitik: let me put it this way, what is differnet now that i have katapult06:39
lunitikkhaije: not much really... you try running katapult as a stand alone application?06:40
khaijelunitik: w/ regards to sound, do you know which is more dependable?06:40
lunitikkhaije: define 'dependable'06:41
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lunitikkhaije: you probably want xine w/ w32codecs then  :P06:41
lunitik(uhhh... unless you meant in respect to katapult...)06:42
khaijeo that last comment was directed toward your katapult question06:42
khaije:-) ya06:42
lunitikkhaije: haha... 'katapult'... I don't think much damage can be done by just clicking around  :)06:43
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khaije?06:45
khaijesorry you lost me :-)06:46
lunitikkhaije: just rambling, somewhat06:47
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InterpolWhy would wlan0 not show up on my iwconfig list?06:48
rafcan anyone help me with the sound in Kubuntu?06:49
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lunitikraf: depends whats wrong06:49
rafI can hear anything06:49
rafI can't06:49
lunitikraf: card? you have onboard and a seperate card?06:49
rafonboard06:49
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lunitikraf: and type of card?06:49
rafIntel 810 chipset06:49
lunitikraf: lsmod | grep snd_intel8x006:50
lunitikraf: is it loaded?06:50
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raf0000:01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 431006:50
lunitikraf: uhh... thats lspci  :/06:50
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lunitikraf: not what I said06:51
rafsorry06:51
rafit isn't loaded06:51
lunitikraf: well..... load it  ;)06:51
InterpolWhy would wlan0 not show up on my iwconfig list?06:51
lunitiksudo modprobe snd-intel8x006:51
lunitikraf: also... go ahead and throw that into /etc/modules ... that way you get to be lazy and not do that all the time  :|06:52
Interpol??06:52
khaijelunitik: do you happen to know anything about the direction of kde sound now that arts is deprecated?06:52
lunitikkhaije: phanon06:52
raflunitik  > ok, I loaded the module, It appears in lsmod06:52
lunitikraf: k... play somethign?06:52
lunitiksomething06:52
raflunitik  > i'm going to view /etc/modules06:53
khaijehmmm.... never heard of it... i'll check it out. thanks very much :-)06:53
lunitikkhaije: http://phonon.kde.org/06:53
lunitikI knew I spelled it wrong   :(06:54
lunitikInterpol: the card is supported and its module is loaded?06:54
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lunitikInterpol: I'll take your lack of response as a no? lol06:57
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lunitik!cough06:59
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lunitik06:59
lunitik!botslap06:59
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lunitik06:59
lunitik:(06:59
lunitikno fun06:59
lunitik!lart06:59
lunitik!lart me06:59
lunitik:(06:59
lunitik!lart me typing too much?07:00
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imbrandon!lart lunitik07:01
lunitikimbrandon: it pretends to know what you mean (/msg from bot) ... but yeah... nothing  :(07:01
imbrandonlol07:02
bewireHello, where should I discuss problems with sound ? (I have a amd 64, system sound ok, but no sound in kscd, totem, tvtime or other players ...)07:02
lunitikbewire: depends... what distro... OS... etc? if Kubuntu then here else not here07:03
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bewireInstalled kubuntu after ubuntu07:03
Hobbsee!sound07:03
ubotuHelp to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary07:04
lunitikHobbsee: cheater07:04
lunitik:P07:04
Hobbseelunitik: :P - what's the bot there for, if not to call up factoids...i dunno how kubuntu-centric they are though, or how old...07:04
raflunitik > no, i can't hear anything :'(07:05
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lunitikHobbsee: sound issues aren't Kubuntu centric  :P07:05
lunitikraf: see what the bot said07:05
rafhihihi i don't what "the bot" is $07:06
rafI don't know what it is07:06
=== lunitik wonders why KUbuntu still doesn't have something like system-config-sound of Fedora/Redhat :(
lunitikSet up can't be THAT different07:06
mustard5raf, ubotu is the bot..see his message above07:06
crimsunlunitik: for the vast majority of users, udev's hardware activation handles that07:07
raf:D07:07
lunitikcrimsun: for the vast majority yes.... but sound has been an issue since the first preview of Ubuntu  :(07:07
crimsunlunitik: which bug reports, specifically?07:08
lunitikcrimsun: more than a year of IRC  :P07:08
rafoh :O07:08
rafok, I'm gonig to read "the bot"07:08
crimsunlunitik: that doesn't really help me, since I'm pretty much the sole triager of said bugs.07:08
lunitikcrimsun: used to come up like 10 times a day07:08
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rafjust another question: If lspci shows "Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International" it means that is my sound card?07:08
prixehnice07:09
crimsunraf: yes, and there are no sound drivers for your card.07:09
lunitikcrimsun: mostly related to intel8x0 actually...07:09
mustard5sound is a difficult thing to troubleshoot though, as its not always operating system related, and sometimes more user related07:09
crimsunraf: unless of course you can convince them to release the specs, in which case we can write drivers.07:09
crimsunraf: there are drivers for the modem portion iirc, but otherwise you're out of luck07:09
lunitikcrimsun: search launchpad (I think thats the prefered bug database?) for bugs related to that module... I'm sure you'll find lots...07:09
raf:'(07:10
crimsunlunitik: see what mustard5 typed.07:10
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crimsunlunitik: and yes, I'm well aware of the state of sound in *buntu. I'm the one pushing patches to fix them.07:10
lunitikcrimsun: thats good to hear  :-D07:10
rafwell, I can live without sound07:11
mustard5your work is much appreciated, crimsun :)07:11
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lunitikcrimsun: paid developer now, btw?  :P07:12
rafI don't want windows anymore! windows recognizes my sound card but it have thousands of virus :D07:12
lunitikcrimsun: or just kinda sucked in  :P07:12
crimsunlunitik: no.07:12
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crimsun(this is purely volunteer work)07:13
lunitikcrimsun: Jonathon is currently only paid Kubuntu devel?07:13
lunitikcrimsun: thank you for your work though  :)07:13
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crimsunI don't know the state of which are contracted, nor does it matter to me, since bugs are nondiscriminatory.07:13
lunitikcrimsun: its strange seeing you in a channel without calc though... haha07:13
crimsuncalc's probably in debian-kde and/or xandros07:14
mustard5I'd just love to know how you gained all your knowledge in sound specific devices , crimsun, as I could certainly do with some knowledge on sound troubleshooting07:14
mustard5hehe07:14
lunitikcrimsun: ahh... last I spoke to him he mentioned he might be getting work with Xandros07:14
lunitikcrimsun: cool07:14
mustard5I end up floundering around not knowing which way to go with troubleshooting07:14
crimsunmustard5: most of it is reading and writing source, wikis, breaking things, etc.07:15
mustard5crimsun, k..well I can work on the breaking things part pretty easy :)07:15
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crimsunaye, 'tis07:15
lunitikcrimsun: also most frustrating when they don't go back together...07:16
crimsunthat's the best part, actually. You just acquire replacements.07:16
lunitikcrimsun: true...07:17
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lunitikgrrr07:17
lunitikstupid job  :|07:18
crimsunyeah, I have something like four hours to sleep, but there are far too many bugs07:18
lunitikcrimsun: don't kill yourself!07:19
lunitikcrimsun: my body couldn't handle that little sleep  :(07:19
kubuntu_BrazilI sleeping flows07:20
lunitikcrimsun: great thing about bugs... if ya don't fix them... they're there tomorrow...07:20
lunitikwait... thats probably not a good thing07:20
crimsunlunitik: yeah, that tends to weigh toward the negative aspect ;)07:21
lunitikcrimsun: haha  :P07:21
lunitikcrimsun: seriously though... have to pay the bills... if you over do it... it'll stop being fun...07:22
lunitikcrimsun: no one wants to contribute to something thats no longer fun to them!07:22
lunitikcrimsun: your work will be appreciated just the same even if you don't have huge bags under your eyes   :P07:23
lunitikon that note... good night07:23
crimsun'night lunitik07:24
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stargatermoin07:26
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kkathmangreetings crimsun :)07:35
crimsunhi kkathman07:35
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DeshBefore a nasty shutdown, my CDs and USB drives would automatically appear on the desktop when plugged in. Now, if I put a CD in I have to go to media and click on the CD for it to mount. USB drives don;t appear at all.08:20
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DeshIs there a way to make it work like it used to?08:20
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aftertafhi all :)08:35
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johan_>:D< daper is good :P08:40
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_steven!easysource08:40
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:40
johan_dapper :o08:40
Steven_MHi.08:41
johan_hi.08:42
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_stevenhey, can somne please give me the line to enter into terminal to edit the sources.list?08:43
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Desh_steven, have you tried finding the file, and then right click, actions, edit as root?08:44
aftertafvim /etc/apt/sources.list08:44
_stevenummm, ill try08:44
DeshOr that. :)08:45
aftertafhehe08:45
Hobbseehey aftertaf!  LTNS!08:45
DeshI still suck at command line.08:45
aftertafHobbsee: LTNC08:45
aftertaflong time no click08:45
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Search4Lancerhow do I get all the nifty details in KTorrent that I had before when I started downloading this file?08:46
Search4LancerI had bar graphs and such, and now I don't08:47
aftertafHobbsee: no irc at new job..... so.08:48
Hobbsee:( ouch08:48
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aftertafwell. maybe i could get around it.....08:48
Hobbseehehe08:48
aftertafbut now i'm on shifts...08:48
aftertaf:/08:48
aftertafsince this week.... once afternoon, once morning.08:49
Hobbseeouch08:49
aftertafgood side is have time for me.... bad thing is don't see much of good lady and children.08:49
Hobbseetrue08:49
Steven_MI'm trying to set up a dialup connection through a pcmcia card on my new install of dapper flight 6. There isn't a /dev/modem. I assume this is usually a link to the modem device. If I were to create a link myself, which device should it point to?08:50
aftertafSearch4Lancer: has the config changed?08:50
Steven_MAlso, how do you check what a link points to?08:50
johan_steve I am using pcmcia as well but networking only works when i pull out the pcmcia card and replace it08:51
_stevenhow do i install wine?08:51
cfraz89Steven_M:try /dev/ttyS008:51
Hobbsee!wine08:51
aftertafSteven_M: in the console, type ls -lh08:51
Hobbsee!tell _steven about wine08:51
_steven!wine08:51
cfraz89Steven_M: is it an internal pci modem?08:51
Steven_Mit's a pcmcia card modem in a notebook08:52
aftertafbest wine link i've found : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=wine+setup08:52
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Steven_MI already tried /dev/ttyS0 and got a I/O error08:52
bimberihi aftertaf!08:53
cfraz89oh08:53
aftertafhi bimberi :] 08:53
cfraz89sorry, im not real sure about pcmcia cards, ive never used one08:53
Search4Lanceraftertaf: there are less options in the config window08:54
bimberiaftertaf: just read the backscroll - good to see you back :)08:54
aftertafhehe thx :)08:54
aftertafgood to see names i recognise too :)08:54
aftertafdapper is looking good anyway.08:56
Search4Lancernevermind, figured it out, had to load plugins...08:56
johan_I have pcmcia as well networking is working after replacing the pcmcia card still modem isn't working either i am trying to find out what is wrong now08:58
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Kadranhi i can't install realplayer? any help?09:01
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_stevenis there a way to get wine thru adept09:02
Search4LancerKadran: realplayer is a windows application09:02
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aftertaf_steven: yes, but dunno if it works well.09:02
_stevenok, how?09:03
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aftertaf_steven: apt-get install wine ;)09:04
Hobbseeno, dont get that version...09:04
Hobbseesee !wine09:04
Hobbseethat version is around 10 months old, IIRC09:04
_steveni dont care, the other way is too hard09:06
aftertaf_steven: its not hard, just long..... but it works (whereas other way doesnt)09:06
imbrandonSearch4Lancer: realplayer is also a linux application ;)09:07
_stevenok, im on the realVNC to download it for kubuntu 5.10, do i download the GZipped Tarfile or the .rpm?09:07
imbrandontar gz09:08
aftertaf_steven: no .deb anywhere? cant you apt-get it,09:08
_stevenhow09:08
Search4Lancerpffffff...........09:08
aftertaf_steven: sudo apt-get install realvnc?09:08
johan_newbie :p ok type man apt-get :D09:09
_stevenill try09:09
imbrandon_Steven  sudo apt-get install xvncviewer09:09
_stevencos i need to controll kubuntu from xp pro09:09
imbrandon_Steven  sudo apt-get install tightvncserver09:10
_stevenok09:10
_stevenand do i need to download tight vnc viewer 4 windows, or can i just use the realvnc viewer?09:11
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aftertafany will work: same protocol09:11
aftertafopen port 5900 in xp09:12
_stevenok09:12
aftertafiirc09:12
_stevenhave done, i use vnc to connect to my friends compter09:12
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imbrandonany vnc viewr will work09:12
_stevenok09:13
_steventhats good09:13
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stargaterre09:17
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koshimbrandon: I did that test with mysql 5.1 and inserted Feb 31 2006 and while it does not do the same thing as the page I linked it is very close, with no warnings or errors it inserts 00-00-000009:17
koshimbrandon: I also tried it in postgres 8.1 and it refused to do the insert saying the date did not exist09:18
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_stevenhow do i get the internal ip address for this computer09:19
aftertafifconfig09:19
_stevenin konsole?09:20
aftertafyep09:20
lwellshey09:20
lwellsanyone know how to download aim on linux?09:20
lwellsanybody here?09:21
aftertafaim or gaim?09:21
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lwellswhats gaim?09:21
lwellsaim09:22
lwellsfor instant messaging09:22
OlliK?09:22
aftertafuse gaim. it does the same; but differently09:22
lwellsk09:22
aftertaflinuxly09:22
lwellshow do i get gaim09:22
OlliKsudo apt-get install gaim09:22
aftertafsudo apt-get install gaim09:22
lwellshuh09:23
aftertafback later all09:23
OlliKgaim has ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo messenger, Jabber etc09:23
lwellsfo real09:23
lwellshow do i get it09:23
_stevenhow do i run the vnc server, i have download vnc-common09:23
aftertafsudo apt-get install gaim09:23
_steventhru adept09:23
OlliKlwells: open a shell window and then type: sudo apt-get install gaim09:23
lwellsi seriously dont know how to use this linux09:23
lwellshow do i open a shell09:24
cfraz89best use adept09:24
koshalt-f2 konsole   is a simple way09:24
cfraz89go to add/remove programs in the menu09:24
koshyou can also use adept if you want09:24
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Marcoshi09:25
_stevenhow do i run vnc-common?09:26
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lwellsto open a shell i gotta run command?09:28
OlliKlwells: I think there should be a shortcut for that in the K-menu09:28
koshthe default kde has a shortcut for it, however kubuntu made modifications and removed the default shortcut09:28
Marcosalt+spacebar, then write konsole09:29
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koshI prefer alt-f2, it runs vastly faster09:30
koshkatapult may look nicer but it is also a lot slower to startup and to complete09:30
Marcosyes, it's true09:30
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Marcosi have a shortcut in the bar09:31
Marcoshey, i have problems installing eagle-usb drivers09:32
koshif I am just running one monitor katapult seems fairly fast but with 4 it sure seems to run slower, that is the one problem with quad monitor output it places a much higher load on things09:32
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lwellsokay i ran command09:33
lwellsand i typed sudo apt-get install gaim09:33
lwellsand nothing happened09:33
_stevenis there away to make a vnc server run at startup?09:33
koshyou did alt-f2 konsole and then why konsole opened you typed that command in there?09:34
lwellsyeah09:34
koshthat seems strange for it to say nothing at all09:35
koshat worst it should say it is already installed09:35
lwellsreallly09:35
lwellsdamn09:35
Marcosor give you an error message09:36
lwellsohhh nm09:36
lwellsmy stepdad put a password to this stupid comp09:36
lwellsi think thats why09:36
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koshif he put a password on the computer he probably means for you not to be able to install and remove software, that woudl be the point :)09:37
lwellsi knoww09:37
lwellsdidnt know that09:37
Marcoshehe09:38
lwellsdamnit i want aim or somethin09:38
Marcosyou can use kopete09:39
lwellswhats kopete09:39
imbrandonaim for linux ;)09:39
DaSkreechRubish09:39
sheldonckopete rocks09:39
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Marcosit's a program like gaim09:39
lwellsokayy how do i get on it09:39
DaSkreechxcept gaim is better :-(09:39
DaSkreechalt+enter09:40
DaSkreechtype kop09:40
DaSkreechPress enter09:40
Marcostype kopete in a console09:40
imbrandongaim == gtk your ina kde chan bud ;)09:40
DaSkreechI less than three katapult09:40
sheldonchttp://kopete.kde.org/09:40
DaSkreechimbrandon_: I don't care09:40
DaSkreechGaim is user friendly09:40
DaSkreechkopete is pretty09:41
imbrandonso is kopete ;)09:41
Marcosyes, but he can't install packages09:41
DaSkreechimbrandon_: I've never found it to do things that I liked09:41
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DaSkreechWorse as a dammnation for a KDE app i couldn't config it to do what I want09:42
sheldoncDaSkreech: what things specifically?09:42
DaSkreechThat and it crashes on me about once every three hours09:42
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DaSkreechTab management, Tab traversals, Messaging people09:42
DaSkreechlogging granularity, seperation of messages vs chats09:43
DaSkreechseparation I'm sorry I don't want to be inaccurate in my rants :)09:43
DaSkreechI'm willing to put up with it since it's basically a few versions old but it's really the fly in my kubuntu soup09:44
imbrandonwell personaly i hate tabs and it never crashes for me ;)09:44
DaSkreechThat plus some minor quibbles about adept :) and apparently the Kat has left the bag and gone but I'm more than happy to chill waiting for KDe409:44
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sheldoncholy crap are you like IMing the entire world every day? myself i cant stand to be talking to moer than 5 people at once on IM... thats why i went back to idling on irc09:46
DaSkreechimbrandon_: Cool for you most people who seem to love kopete just pick it up and use it :-(09:46
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DaSkreechsheldonc: actually I am09:46
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nrdbI have gnomemetting installed but it can't seem to handle the sound can anyone help?09:47
sheldoncDaSkreech: i'd suggest updating your kopete and trying it again. also, if you're trying to coordinate anything with anybody, IM sucks :)09:48
DaSkreechsheldonc: Which is probably how I notice things like I cannot IM someone unless I add them to my list which is insanely aggravating09:48
koshI just use konversation, the im programs I got tired of not long after icq first started09:48
imbrandonirc was arround LONG before im apps ;)09:49
sheldonci liked icq and msn, but you soon find out that you hate being constantly interrupted about the same thing - irc makes more sense, everybody and their dog can get their hands on an irc client, and there isnt duplication09:49
imbrandonbrb gonna restart x09:50
lwellslinux is complicated09:51
koshthe im programs just are too annoying pretty much09:51
koshlwells: every os is complicated at least if you expect it to work09:52
DaSkreechYeah but much worse when you have to fight with them to do anything09:52
DaSkreechkosh: Wise man09:52
koshI have had to fight with windows and even macs a lot to get stuff done09:52
koshlinux is really not any differnt, just different fights09:53
koshtry doing serious db development on a windows box and then see how easy things are :)09:53
lwellshaha09:53
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lwellsanyways09:54
lwellsgooodnite guys09:54
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imbrandongnight09:55
imbrandonanyhow thats the great thing about linux, choice , some like gaim some like kopete some like amsn etc etc etc09:56
imbrandon;)09:56
imbrandonall have their ups and downs09:56
sheldoncand compare apt-get to installshield09:56
sheldoncman, i hate windows installers09:56
imbrandonhehe09:57
imbrandoncompare apt-get to rpm based distros ( not counting red-carpet becouse its only the base os mostly )09:57
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imbrandonbout the same damm headache09:57
nrdbafter using fedora 3 for a while yum is a pain to use.09:58
imbrandonyea09:58
imbrandonso is yast on suse09:58
Vampisapt is the way of life ;)09:58
nrdbapt can make odd desicision from time to time but it generally gets it right.09:59
Vampishm, I only had problem once10:00
Vampisit removed ALOT of programs when I ran a dist-upgrade10:01
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josh!wine10:07
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josh!winetools10:08
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, josh10:08
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nrdbI am trying to setup gnomemeeting, I am haveing trouble with the sound it keeps saying it can't open the device, and to check permissions, but what permissions?10:09
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PupenoDoes anybody know how can I get the firmware for my Agfa Snapscan e20 ? I don't have the installation CD.10:14
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munzir_Hi, what's the corresponding command to httpd -S in kubuntu?10:16
joshhave you tried its manufactures website?10:16
munzir_There is no httpd executable10:16
munzir_ahh! i found it apache2 ;)10:17
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joshwhen ever i use adept to install or remove a program, it displays this message at the very end10:35
joshhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70697710:35
joshand it says that the programs are installed, even though there not10:35
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joshdose any1 know how to fix this?10:36
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joshanyone?10:37
josh!adept10:37
ubotuI guess adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto10:37
josh!network10:37
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.10:37
josh!networking10:38
ubotucheck this for command line networking http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html10:38
pradeeptojosh: what is your problem again?10:38
pradeeptoRiddell: around?10:38
joshhang on10:38
mindspinjosh: could you post your sources.list in pastebin ?10:40
joshok10:43
joshhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70698410:44
joshand my problem is that i get the following error at the end of installing and removing programs http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70698410:45
HymnToLifehmm same link here10:46
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mindspinyou can try to replace the source urls, maybe the australian servers have problems or their repos are broken..10:47
joshgrunt10:47
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mindspinbut that's just a guess because your sources.list looks ok for me10:47
HymnToLifewould be nice to have a look t the error ;)10:47
zorgluuuq. in which package is the make utility, the stuff to compile programm10:47
mindspinhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706977 that's the error10:48
HymnToLifehmm, never saw anything like this...10:48
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HymnToLifethe au.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be okay10:49
joshgrunt grunt10:50
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mindspinjosh did you try it via sudo apt-get update from console?10:50
joshumm, yeah10:51
joshbut ill do that again10:51
zorgluuuno taker for the package containing make ><10:51
imbrandonzorgluuu: build-essential10:51
HymnToLife!b-e10:51
ubotuor if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.10:51
joshits doing stuff now10:52
zorgluuuhmm dah it was just make.deb10:52
joshbut it had an error at the end10:52
imbrandonzorgluuu: build-essential10:52
imbrandonhass everything10:52
joshill post it asap10:52
zorgluuuimbrandon, nice thanks10:52
joshhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70699210:52
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mindspinmhh differs slightly from the first one10:53
HymnToLifejosh> it seems one (at least) server you are using is down10:53
squilla!network10:53
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.10:53
HymnToLifere you running a 64 bit system ?10:54
joshok10:54
joshi still have the same error when i use adept10:55
joshand if somone could solve my problem thats posted here, that would be ausome10:57
joshhttp://groups.google.com/group/absolute-linux-computing/browse_thread/thread/1d85162f1901df7510:57
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joshanyone?11:00
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HymnToLifejosh> if you just want to do console stuff, SSH should do the trick11:03
josh???11:03
joshno no no, i want full controll, vnc11:03
HymnToLifemaybe you'll have something on the wiki about it11:04
HymnToLife!vnc11:04
ubotuwell, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)11:04
joshok11:05
joshand can i configure them to run at startup?11:05
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joshbecause i cant have a monitor hooked up to the kubuntu computer11:06
joshbrb11:08
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joshis there a driver or somthing so i can read and write NTFS volumes11:14
zorgluuujosh i havent followed your problem but just in case nx is much faster than vnc11:14
joshnx?11:15
HymnToLifejosh> NTFS writing is very unsafe11:15
HymnToLifeI wouldn't use it if I were you11:15
joshok11:15
joshwhat is nx?11:15
aftertaf!nx11:15
ubotuaftertaf: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:15
zorgluuujosh try to google nx client11:15
joshand can i use nx to access kubunt from xp?11:17
zorgluuudunno :)11:17
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joshgrunt11:17
joshwhat is the command line for updating the sources.list again11:18
joshafter you make changes to it?11:19
joshgtg11:19
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Druhaving nightmares trying to install dapper11:29
JRGCI have a TVcard and it was recognised as a soundcard 0 and my soundcard is soundcard 1 so I can't here anything, except with the tv.11:29
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JRGCWhere can I cange the alsa configuration on Ubuntu?11:30
JRGCWhere can I change the alsa configuration on KUbuntu?11:30
My8osjosh: sudo apt-get update11:31
cfraz89i dont think kubuntu comes with an alsa tool11:31
Tm_TI think wiki knows something11:33
cfraz89you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base11:33
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joshthanx11:34
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joshwhen ever i install or remove programs in adept, get the following error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70697711:36
joshheres my sources.list http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70698411:36
HymnToLifejosh > maybe your sources.list is bad somewhere but I can't figure out whre11:37
HymnToLifemaybe try another one and see if it works11:37
joshand heres what happens when i go sudo apt-get update http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70701811:37
HymnToLifehere's mine : http://fkraiem.no-ip.org/stuff/sources.list11:37
JRGCHow can I configure alsa from the console in Kubuntu?11:37
joshk11:37
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HymnToLifeoh yeah, another thing11:39
HymnToLifetry to sudo apt-get update with an empty sources.list before putting a new one11:39
joshok11:39
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joshwhat would that do?11:40
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cc-dashi've updated to kernel 2.6.15-22 (64bit amd-version) and i only got trouble: openoffice hangs up etc. - is this a known problem or am i the only one, who has trouble with this.11:41
cc-dashi've booted the previos kernel and everything works ... :-/11:41
HymnToLifejosh> that will basically clear your cache from all the stuff you've downloaded like package indexes and such11:41
joshok11:41
cc-dash+u11:41
HymnToLifeso it won't interfere with the download of new ones11:41
DrNickRivieracan anyone recommend a good photo gallery application?11:45
joshwat is the command prompt for editing the sources.list in vim11:45
joshkonsole11:45
HymnToLifejosh> just sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list11:46
joshthanx11:46
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joshi have pressed esc in vim, how do i make it so i can make changes?11:50
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joshanyone?11:53
joshi have pressed esc in vim, how do i make it so i can make changes?11:53
visik7UH ?11:53
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joshi have pressed esc in vim (text editor in konsole), what do i type in so i can make changes?11:54
cfraz89i11:54
cfraz89i <enter>11:55
joshk, thanx11:55
cfraz89when you are done, press escape, then wq to save11:55
cfraz89np11:55
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joshthat error still comes up, even with your sources.list12:07
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_davidwhere can I go to discuss nvidia and breezy problems12:14
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joyneed help12:20
joyi try install a program and it won't work, but when i tried from root, it's work12:21
joycan i change that program so i can run not from root?12:22
joyplease help12:22
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_davidjoy, what is the program?12:24
_davidJoy, I tried to get xsane to work and found that ubuntu has prevented the use of suid, other wise you could have set the suid bit on the program12:26
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joyvmare12:42
joyvmware david12:43
zm0joy: i use vmware as a normal user, maybe i can help12:44
joycan u help me12:45
joypleasee12:45
joyi can not run from normal user only from rot12:46
joyroot12:46
zm0joy: start vmware from a terminal and tell me what error(s) do you get12:46
joyMware Workstation Error:12:47
joyVMware Workstation unrecoverable error: (vmui)12:47
joyUnable to initialize host: Cannot open file "/home/joy/.vmware/preferences": Permission denied.12:47
zm0joy: ok type sudo chown joy:joy /home/joy/.vmware -R12:48
joyit's work!12:49
zm0:)12:49
joythank you z..12:49
zm0yw12:49
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Infectohello, pleas tell me where now(6.06) is cfg for locale-gen ?01:19
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HymnToLifeInfecto> for Dapper issues, please join #ubuntu+101:25
Infectook01:26
DrNickRivierai'm trying to install amarok 1.4 beta 3 on dapper01:26
DrNickRivierait works fine apart from the engines01:26
DrNickRivieraare there different engine packages for 1.4?01:26
cfraz89yeah01:27
DrNickRivieraany idea where i might get them?01:27
cfraz89make sure you have amarok-engines01:27
cfraz89amarok-arts has been removed01:27
DrNickRivierathe problem is when do apt-get install amarok-engines it complains that i don't have amarok 1.3.9 installed01:29
h3sp4wnDrNick: just install amarok-xine (presuming you have the 1.4 repos in your sources.list01:30
DrNickRivierai don't think i do01:30
DrNickRivieraonly just started using kubuntu and apt01:30
DrNickRivierawill see whether i can find something on google01:30
cfraz89deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta3 dapper main01:30
cfraz89add that to your sources01:31
DrNickRivierahow do i do that?01:32
cfraz89in adept, go to manage repositories01:32
cfraz89or you can add the line directly to /etc/apt/sources.list01:32
DrNickRivierahave done it in adept01:33
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cfraz89ok01:33
cfraz89then update your sources, and it should be ok01:33
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DrNickRivierathanks for your help cfraz8901:36
cfraz89np01:36
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DrNickRivieraamarok continues to claim that no engines are installed :(01:44
cfraz89hmmm01:45
cfraz89so you got new amarok, and amarok engines?01:45
DrNickRivierayeah01:45
cfraz89try deleting your amarok settings01:45
DrNickRivieraeven tried installing gstreamer01:45
cfraz89probably wont help though01:45
DrNickRivierayou mean press the default button in config or delete files from the amarok directory in /home?01:46
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cfraz89delete /home/you/.kde/share/apps/amarok,01:47
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cfraz89delete /home/you/.kde/share/config/amarokrc01:47
siefkencpany one know how to create an IRC channel?01:49
Tm_Tsiefkencp: join to it01:49
Tm_Tsiefkencp: like /j #newchannel will create #newchannel if it doesn't exist already01:50
siefkencpcool ty01:52
DruF##k my connection died & was almost complete on my dl of Dapper install cd :(01:52
OdyXsomeone with Dapper and a burner to confirm bug 31768?01:52
HymnToLifeDru> use a download manager next time ;)01:53
Tm_TOdyX: oh?01:55
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OdyXTm_T: Hi..01:55
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Tm_Thello :)01:56
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Drucrappy works machine win 98se01:57
DrNickRivieradeleting the amarok config file hasn't solved the problem either01:59
dave_ozis there a DVD ripper like DVDSHRINK available in ubuntu?02:01
visik7wine+dvdshrink02:05
visik7no performance loss02:05
visik7or dvd5to902:05
OdyXdave_oz: dvdrip02:05
OdyXdave_oz: thoggen for Ogg/Theora/Vorbis02:06
visik7dvdrip doesn't do what dvdshrink does02:06
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dave_ozi tried dvdrip - couldn't get it to work - difficult to figure out how to use.02:06
ninHerhi all02:06
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visik7dave_oz: dvd5to902:06
dave_ozi will try dvde5to902:07
dave_ozis it as good as dvdshrink?02:07
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visik7never used02:11
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metallituxplease help me! cant get into any GUI02:16
cfraz89what happens?02:16
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metallituxcfraz89, it just kicks me back to KDM like i never logged in02:16
cfraz89oh02:16
cfraz89try running startkde from a terminal?02:17
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metallituxthat worked02:17
metallituxcfraz89, why would that work and not the KDM?02:18
cfraz89it shouldnt lol02:18
metallituxwhat can i do to fix that?02:18
cfraz89ummm02:19
cfraz89try reinstalling kdm?02:20
cfraz89maybe you want a copy of my kdmrc?02:20
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metallituxcfraz89, sorry about that02:21
metallituxhad to restart X02:21
cfraz89thats ok02:23
cfraz89is ok now?02:23
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metallituxcfraz89, nope02:24
cfraz89oh ok02:24
metallituxbut kde is working while i am like this02:24
cfraz89ill give you my kdmrc02:24
cfraz89see how it goes02:25
cfraz89actually not sure if it elps02:25
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cfraz89you might want to try reinstalling kdm02:25
metallituxso remove and reinstall with apt?02:26
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cfraz89try02:26
cfraz89but it might want to take out kde with it02:26
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mhterresmorning02:48
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swokeAnyone has succesfully used Network-manager-openvpn ?03:05
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Vampisdidnt even know it existed03:09
VampisCant find it in my reps.03:09
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billytwowilly Hi, I just installed the updates and now kde won't start up. says something like "invalid number of arguments (4)" how do I fix this? gnome sucks compared to kde...03:54
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Vampisbillytwowilly: Wich KDE ?03:56
billytwowillydapper03:56
VampisFrom what repo03:56
VampisKDE Dapper? ;)03:56
Vampisasked witch version of KDE03:56
billytwowillykde from dapper...03:56
Vampisbah, wich VERSION ffs03:56
billytwowillyI dunno. probably the latest. whatever is in dapper.03:56
DeadS0ulbillytwowilly: do you use any speical drivers?03:57
billytwowillynvidia.. that's it.03:57
DeadS0ulreinstall it03:57
billytwowillynvidia works just fine. I'm in gnome now.03:58
DeadS0ulit just doesnt' log into kde?03:58
billytwowillyyah. kde tries to start up and I get an error that says something like "invalid number of arguments (4)" then it goes into gnome because gnome is still the default desktop.03:59
DeadS0ultry coming into #kde and asking03:59
nexus10Hi. Can anyone tell me what are the minimum set of tools I need to "apt-get install" in order to be able to "make install"? GCC not required, just make AFAIK.03:59
DeadS0ulnexus10: you usually need the dev files I think04:00
nexus10DeadS0ul: d'you know which apt-get command I need? apt-cache search dev is a little scary :-)04:01
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DeadS0ulI think you can use apt-cache show <package name> to see what libraries it uses04:02
DeadS0uland get what you need need04:02
nexus10DeadS0ul: thanks, I'll experiment. Not sure what the package-name is, though...04:03
DeadS0ulso if the program you want to build from source uses openssh, then you probably need libssl-dev or gnutls-dev04:03
DeadS0ulwhat're you trying to build?04:03
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Hobbseenexus10: build-essential usually helps with that04:05
Hobbsee!b-s04:05
ubotuHobbsee: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:05
Hobbsee!b-e04:05
ubotuor if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.04:05
khaije|awayhi all, anyone know if there is any discussion about creating xen-playable base images aloing with iso's?04:06
billytwowillyit actually says "unsupported number of arguments (4)"04:06
nexus10thanks all04:06
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rtg_Good morning!  ...got a bit of confusion04:22
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rtg_I installed from the Dapper Beta2 .iso, thinking it was the latest, but today someone suggested trying the 'Flight 7' .iso04:23
Hobbseertg_: yes, flight 7 is later.  you can easily update to flight 7 from beta204:23
rtg_I thought the 'flight n' series was pre-beta04:24
kkathmangreetings Hobbsee04:24
Hobbseehey kkathman :)04:24
Hobbseertg_: er...i thought that too.  i'ts not though04:24
crimsunrtg_: flight is just a milestone codename and has no relation to pre-/post-04:24
crimsuni.e., flight 1 < flight 2 < ... < flight 6 < beta < beta 2 < flight 7 < ... < release candidiate < final04:25
kkathmanHobbsee:  if we've been dist-upgrading and/or daily updating we're all getting the latest things tho right?04:25
Hobbseekkathman: yep :)04:25
kkathmaneven if we started at flight 604:25
kkathmanjust wanted to verify that for everyone :)04:25
rtg_I think the web site or wiki needs to be updated.  The testing/dapperbeta/ page points to a server that only has the 4/28 beta204:26
rtg_Is there an overall status page with announcements and pointers to the latest?04:27
rtg_I'm participating in a bug that's files against the installer itself, so I have to re-install with the latest.  An update to an already-installed system won't show me anything.04:29
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everthello all04:30
DeadS0ulhi hi04:30
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everti'm searching for a 'audio progam' like skype for linux (skype don't wanna work on 64 bit and teamspeak just don't works :S )04:31
evertso i'm searching another program wich can do it :)04:31
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jarleWhich settings should I use to get norwegian chars ""? I consol I can TYPE the letters, but when I try to list filenames containing these letters I only get "?"04:32
DeadS0ultried gnome meeting? it's caleld somethign else now ..forgot what it is04:32
DeadS0uljarle:  you need the fonts installed for that locale I think04:32
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SiriusAsomebody here on dapper, using amarok and musicbrainz?04:33
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DeadS0ulme, musicbrainz ain't working in juk either04:33
HymnToLife!dapper04:34
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)04:34
SiriusADeadS0ul, it works, but only musicbrainz make some problems04:34
evertcan i use gnome meeting (on kubuntu :P) to talk with frineds who have windows ?04:34
jarleDeadS0ul: any idea which package to install?04:35
evertis the quality of gnome meeting ok ?04:35
DeadS0uljarle: dunno =|04:35
DeadS0ulevert: probably, go try it out04:35
evertbut can i talk with friends who have windows and wich program do they need ?04:36
DeadS0ulSiriusA: what kinda problems?04:36
SiriusADeadS0ul, described at the bottom: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.1004:36
SiriusADeadS0ul, but this dont work for me, he dont install libtunepimp2c204:37
SiriusADeadS0ul, apt tells me, that this package is not available, but replaced through this: libtunepimp2c2a04:38
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imonkeyis it already possible to download kubuntu dapper beta?04:40
BazziRsure04:40
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imonkeyawsome going to check right away :)04:40
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imonkeymaybe this is a stupid question but is it possible to download an iso when its beta?04:41
evertis Kubuntu dapper also coming out at June 1 ? And can i just do a 'update / upgrade' ? Or do i have to reinstall everything ?04:42
HymnToLife!upgrade04:42
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .04:42
imonkeyevert: im almost certain you can upagrade it from breezy :)04:42
imonkeyHymnToLife: does that also cover my question?04:42
HymnToLifeyeah, tht's wht it's for :)04:43
imonkeyHymnToLife: ok sorry thought it was for evert :)04:43
BazziRimonkey: you can always download the latest flights from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com I think04:44
HymnToLifeyeah but what's the point in downloading the whole ISO when you can upgrade just the stuff you need ?04:45
BazziRhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/ <- there we go.04:45
imonkeyBazziR: thanks ill bookmark it right away :)04:45
BazziRif upgrade is available, upgrade should be done of course :=)04:45
imonkeyHymnToLife: i dont got breezy installed anymore.. and trew away the iso :P04:45
imonkeyyeah stupid i know04:45
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HymnToLifeI heard Dapper has a graphical installer, pity04:46
BazziRI didn't dare to use the graphical installer yet04:46
HymnToLifeI will stick with "Install Breezy and then upgrade to Dapper" I guees, just like I do with Debin04:46
BazziRtoo buggy04:46
v3ctoralso has non-graphical04:46
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imonkey!dapper04:50
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)04:50
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pussfellerhow can make an app run thru cron connect to X.. kdialog sez it cant connect05:01
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pussfellerthe libtunepimp in ubuntu wont do mp3s which is why it wont workwith amarok, iirc05:03
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pussfellerSiriusA,05:03
everthow can i call to a windows user with Ekiga ? (i have installed it just , and it's working :) )05:03
pussfellerevert call their sip number05:06
pussfellersip:number05:06
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everti can call to a sip number , but how do i know the sip number of 'adres@hotmail.com' or (for a gtalk user) adres@gmail.Com ?05:13
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pussfellerevert, Iit might be sip:user@hotmail.com05:17
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pussfelleri was just liiking at the faq, i aint sure05:17
gilii need help with kubuntu networkin setupo05:18
gilianywone05:18
gilii installed the kubuntu CD05:18
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gilii had no network connection so i had to leave it all blank05:18
gilii can access network settings at all now05:18
evertok05:19
gilican someone tell me what is going on!!05:19
gilii cant access them excuse me05:19
evertdoes ekiga supports 'just out of the box' to call to a windows msn user (like adress@hotmail.com ) ?05:20
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giliwill someone here help me?05:20
Kyralif you ask05:20
gilii am asking05:20
Kyralif you ask it, they will answer05:20
gilinice05:20
Kyralthen I wasn't paying attention lol05:21
Kyral<== Is in 15 channels05:21
giliI installed the Kubunut latests image on cd and boot it up, since i dont have internet at office05:21
gilii had to leave the network config part blank05:21
gilinow after install was done...it completely locked network settings05:21
gilii cant access them now05:21
Kyraluse the commandline ifconfig then05:22
giliok can you please tell me how...05:22
Kyralman ifconfig?05:22
giliok05:22
KyralI know I shouldn't do RTFM05:22
Kyralbut I just woke up lol05:22
squillagili: sudo ifconfig eth0 up05:22
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gilisorry i dont know the lingo RTFM?05:22
squillagili: sudo dhclient eth005:23
Kyralbasically a very rude way to tell you to read the manual05:23
giliok05:23
Kyrallike I said05:23
giliread the fing manual ok05:23
Kyralbefore caffine reaches my brain, Kyral not happy :P05:23
gilithansk squilla05:24
gilinow can you tell me why i cant acess the settings from the GUI05:24
giliit keeps locking up05:24
squillagili:no sorry05:25
squillagili: which gui05:25
giliwhen i go to the network preferences and enter admin mode it wont let me do any config it locks up05:25
gilicrashes05:25
squillagili: "networking or "networkng tools"?05:26
squillagili:use  "networking"05:26
gilinetworking under system preferences05:26
giliwhere it lists the devices05:26
gilibotht my ethernet and wireless are disabled05:26
giliwhen i enter admin mode and try to enable them it does nothings05:26
squillagili:open a terminal --> type "sudo network-admin"05:26
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crazykillerhi05:27
giliok05:27
giliand then05:27
gili?05:27
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gilii will do that05:28
squillagili:select the device you want - click properties; select dhcp05:28
crazykilleri have installed Ubuntu + KDE. How can I UNINSTALL Gnome???05:28
squillagili:click "ok", try a website..... and get back to me :-)05:28
gilii have tried that from the sytem settings and it crashes05:28
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squillacrazy:why would you?05:29
squillacrazy:space?05:29
gilii will try it from the terminal05:29
squillagili:try it - I have other ways05:29
squillagili:coolio!05:29
giliwhy would it be locked up after install, just a question05:30
gilido I HAVE TO HAVE a network connection when installing kbuntu of cd-rom05:30
crazykilleri get confused with the gnome applications. Sorry , its the first time at Linux05:30
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DrNickRivieraanyone here use azureus from universe?05:30
squillacrazy:probably use adept/synaptic and select gnome-desktop+ remove05:30
DrNickRivierahi squilla05:30
squillaDrNick: Yo!05:30
squillagili:It helps05:31
DrNickRivierayou had any problems with it?05:31
DrNickRivierawhenever i start it my computer slows to a crawl05:31
crazykillerthanx, i ask because yesterday i uninstall the whole x-window by mistake!05:31
DrNickRivieraand i never see the gui or anything05:31
giliok thanks squilla will try now05:31
giliquit05:31
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squillaDrNick: not used it - not the fliesharing type - we pay for our bandwidth in this country :-(05:31
DrNickRivieraah, ok05:32
DrNickRivieraanyone else used it?05:32
squillawhy not use kbittorrent?05:32
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DrNickRivieramainly because i've used azureus for ages and still have quite a few unfinished torrents05:33
DrNickRivieramight have a look at it though05:34
squillathe tor files can't be copied over?05:34
squillaI know I managed that before in kde - just clicked on them and kbittorrent opens up ...05:34
squillaDrNick: otherwise I can't help - you could run it from a terminal and watch the output05:35
squillaDrNick: it's a java app?05:35
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DrNickRivierasquilla: i've downloaded half of them05:42
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DrNickRivieraso they are on the hard drive, just not complete05:42
DrNickRivierait is a java app, yes05:42
DrNickRivierais there some way i can get the kmenu to update without rebooting?05:42
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squillaDrNick: you mean logging out ? with ctrl+alt+bkscpce?05:43
DrNickRivierawont that close all the programs i've got running?05:44
coloit till kill them05:44
DrNickRivieramy problem is, that after i install programs they don't show up in the kmenu until i reboot05:44
colonot "close" them05:44
colo;)05:44
squillaDrNick: you can start them at the cli anyway05:45
DrNickRivierai know05:45
DrNickRivierathat's what i do05:45
DrNickRivierabut would still be nice to have them either pop up automatically, or run some command to have it update05:46
squillaDrNick:*flirting over kopete* some do ... odd05:47
evertI have problems with Ekiga , i can't connect to a msn adres , to have a audio conversation.... can somebody help me with this problem pls ?05:47
squillaevert: do you have an account with ekiga?05:49
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gilihello05:50
gilineed help with networking05:50
giliqsilla05:51
gili?05:51
gilii tried sudo ifconfig nothing05:51
giliwhen kubuntu boots up its say both on basic networking setup and ont netwwork interfaces that failed05:52
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gilii cant seem to acces the network config at all05:52
squillagili: what network card is it?05:53
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gilii have ethernet realtek05:53
giliand atheros wifi card05:53
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gilibut i did what you told me05:53
giliand no go05:53
giliwhen i go to system settings>internet concections>network preferences05:54
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giliboth ethernet and wifi interfaces are disabled05:54
squillagili: type"lsmod | grep rt" and look for the driver for your network card05:54
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giliwhen it try use administrator mode to enable them it does nothing05:55
giliit sees the drives05:55
gilidrivers it just wont let me enable anything05:55
gilido i need to reinstall the OS or what?05:55
squillagili: No! :-D05:56
squillagili: we're not dealing with M$ here ....05:56
giliexcuse me i meant linux05:56
gilisorry05:56
giliplease bear with me here...05:57
squillagili: try "ifconig" I want to know if you see any devices there05:57
squillagili: chill my guy :-) - it's all in fun05:57
giliwhen i boot up......the kubuntu screen says that "Network interface config/setup failed"05:57
squillagili:" ifconfig" soz05:58
giliwhen i type ifconfig it recognizes the device05:58
gilibut i cant enable it05:58
gilii have tried it05:58
gilibut i am, as you can tell, a newbie05:58
giliso i dont really knowwhat i am doing05:58
squillagili:never mind that05:59
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giliok05:59
squillagili:what does it show you? eth0? lo? ath0?05:59
gilii did ifconfig ath0 up05:59
giliright05:59
gilithen or eth0 up05:59
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cow_2001i once told kerry to load beagled every time i log into kde06:00
gilieither way it shows me the info06:00
gilimac adresss06:00
gilietc...06:00
cow_2001then i couldn't make it to not load it everytime06:00
giliwhat should i be looking for06:00
giliit recognizes both ath0 and eth006:01
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squillagili:but no ip numbers?06:01
gilinope06:02
giliit doesnt connect to anything06:02
giliwhen i go to configure interfaces in the system settings it crashes06:02
gilii think it conflicts the two cards06:02
gilicause when i do ifconfig i get type:ethernet for both06:02
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squillagili:no no - look at the output of eth0 - on the second line you'll see "inet addr: 10.0.0.45" or whatever - if there's no number we can fix it and that is your problem06:03
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gilino number06:04
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squillagili:type "sudo ifdown ath0"06:05
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nathanellooo06:05
giliok and then06:05
evertsquilla , sry i was away for a moment06:06
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everti have got an account for ekiga06:06
squillagili:type "ifconfig" again06:06
squillagili:ath0 is gone right?06:06
giliis ifdown ath0 same us ifconfig ath0 down06:06
squillagili:don't know06:07
squillagili:keep it simple for now06:07
giliok06:07
giliifconfig didnt show me ath0 or eth006:07
gilii will try that shortly and let you know06:07
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evertcan you help me a bit squilla pls ?06:08
giliok sqilla thanks06:08
gilihelp ever06:08
gilievert06:08
gilii will try it06:08
squillaI can help both (slowly :-))06:08
gilihow do i get kubuntu to do this at boot time06:09
squillagili: ifconfig --> just to see what's available - the fact that they are there means they're ok06:09
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giliok06:09
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evertok , i have Ekiga installed ... i'm logged in (i think) but now i wanna call to a windows user (he uses msn). I typed in the field : sip: adres@hotmail.com but he can't connect then06:09
squillagili: if eth0 is there type "sudo dhclient3 eth0"06:10
squillagili: let me know ...06:10
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squillaevert:06:10
evertyes ?06:11
squillaevert: you have to use sip:user@ip number - I was googling for info - I've never done it before06:11
squillaevert: I'm still looking06:11
evertme too , but i have found in the ekiga faq (and the help from ekiga) that i can call somebody with 'sip:name(@ekiga.net)'06:12
squillaevert: I'd like to do it myself - don't like skype06:12
evertif he uses a ekiga.net account , you can leave it blank06:12
everti tried to use skype , but it failed to work on linux06:12
squillaevert: that's the easy one - but teh msn thing ... lets look around?06:12
squillaevert: skype fails? why/06:13
evertbtw , stupid question , but if you say something to me it's highlited in red .. how can you do that ?06:13
evertbecause i'm using the 64 bit version , i'm missing some packages but my system fails to install them (strange thing i know)06:14
evertIt should work with Windows Messenger, not MSN Messenger, which is06:15
evertdifferent.06:15
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squillaevert: I have AMD64 - but it's simpler for now to use 32bit version06:15
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everti know , but i'm using boinc with rosetta@home , my score is much better with 64 bit :)06:16
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sampananyone know if it's normal for screen (the useful app) to show up as a 2nd logged in user?  i.e., if at CLI i do "users" i see myself logged in ... but if i run screen and do "users" i see my username logged in twice -- is that normal?06:17
squillaevert:I tried to chat to you in a tab - can you see it?06:17
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evertsry i missed the tab , but i can't talk to u because i'm unregistered06:19
squillaevert: register please - I want to try something06:19
evertok , can you tell me fast how ? (or i'll search it)06:20
squillaevert: the color thing is in the settings for konversation06:20
squillatype "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>"06:20
nathanhmm06:21
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squillaevert: did you see what I said about "CTRL K"?06:33
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kubuntutaotaomy kaffeine is crashed,and reinstall it that it doesn't run,why?06:39
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squillatry "ps ax | grep kaffeine"06:41
squillaThen type "kill -9 (each PID number that appears on the left)06:41
OdyXsquilla: or "killall kaffeine"06:42
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squillaOdyX: doen't work as well as it used to - often the binary name of a program is tied up in a path and killall fails then06:43
addonei use kubuntu 5.10, and update my kde to 3.5.2, and then found that i couldn't copy & paste files in the same folder anymore06:43
squillaOdyX: try it with firefox06:43
kubuntutaotao 7599 ?        S      0:00 perl /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/cmd konversation irc.freenode.net #kubuntu ps ax | grep kaffeine06:43
kubuntutaotao 7600 ?        R      0:00 sh -c ps ax | grep kaffeine06:43
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kubuntutaotaosquilla: up06:44
squilla"kill -9 7600"06:44
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addonehas anyone here got into the same trouble?06:44
squillaaddone: I don't really understand06:45
sonicAnyone know how I can make 'Konversation' make a sound when I get a message directed to me?06:45
kubuntutaotaosquilla: ok.then????06:45
addonei mean, i just couldn't duplicate my files by copy & paste06:46
OdyXsonic: "Settings" "Notifications"06:46
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addonein kde 3.5.0, when i copy & paste the same file, it will give me a dialog to rename the file.06:46
addonebut in kde 3.5.2, when i do the same, it just give me an error dialog saying the source and the target are the same06:47
addonewhat i can do is just click on the OK button , i couldn't rename it and got a duplicated file06:48
sonicOdyX: Aha thanks. So I have to assign the sounds myself?06:49
squillaKubuntu: try start kaffeine again06:49
OdyXsonic: I think so06:49
squillaok - and you can't click and rename files? or save them somewhere else?06:50
sonicOdyX: Thanks.06:50
kubuntutaotaosquilla:06:50
addonei can't copy & paste files in the same folder06:50
kubuntutaotaottkubuntu@TTkubuntu:~$ kaffeine06:50
kubuntutaotaoDVB 0 : 06:50
kubuntutaotaoDVB 1 : 06:50
kubuntutaotaoDVB 2 : 06:50
kubuntutaotaoDVB 3 : 06:50
kubuntutaotaoScimInputContextPlugin()06:50
OdyXaddone: try to use [Ctrl]  during drag06:51
squillaaddone: I can't see why you'd want to - sorry guy - can't help you06:52
addonethx, but i mean that in the same folder, i couldn't duplicate a file with copy&paste06:53
Chousukehmmh06:53
addoneit just gives me a dialog saying the source and the target are the same, i could do nothing06:53
Chousukekubuntutaotao: can I get that in English?06:53
squillaaddone: oh i see, I never have :-). umm - just save as?06:53
Chousukeoops :/06:54
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addonein konqueror, copy & paste06:54
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squillaaddone: just tried - does it - puts the word "copy" in th namee06:55
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addonein konqueror , trying to duplicate a file by simply copy & paste in the same dir06:56
jelok I need some help with my partitions :(06:56
jelthe live CD installer botched up, and fudged the boot table06:57
jelor similar06:57
jel:S06:57
jelthe partitions are in tact06:57
addoneit works in kde 3.5.0 ,it will allow me to rename my file;however in 3.5.2, it just show me an error...06:57
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sonicAnybody know how I can set firefox as my default browseer for opening links from email and IRC etc?07:01
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addonesonic, you can configure your default browser in Kcontrol07:02
sonicCheers07:03
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addonego to "kde components"->"component selector", you will find it07:04
sonicI can't find kde components07:05
sonicI just types kcontrol in a terminal and got it up, (but would like to know where kde components is for future reference anyway07:06
addonei'm sorry ,my kde isn't english, just goto the second menu07:06
sonicok, thanks07:06
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sonicgot it :-)07:07
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addonei use kubuntu 5.10 and kde 3.5.2, in konqueror, i try to duplicate a file by simply copy & paste in the same dir, but i got an error dialog saying that the source and the target file are the same, what i can only do is click on the OK button.07:09
addonehowever, in kde 3.5.0, when i do the same, it will show me a dialog to rename the duplicated file, not an error dialog.07:10
addoneand i have post the problem in the #kde channel, they told me it isn't kde's bug, 'cause they can got the rename dialog.07:12
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addoneso i suppose it is only happen on kubuntu, is anyone here had got into the same trouble?07:13
Blissexaddone: you have to change the name...07:13
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addonebut it should allow me to rename the file, not just show me an error...07:14
addoneand in previous version, it works well07:14
XVampireXevert_: What package did you download?07:15
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Blissexaddone: yes, the logic of how it works has been changed...07:17
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addoneand it is only changed in kubuntu?07:17
Blissexaddone: use right click and 'Copy To'07:17
Blissexaddone: no, it is changed in Fedora too etc., just a revision of the user interface I guess07:18
evert_hello07:18
addoneoh no, when i use "copy to", i can't select current dir...07:18
evert_i didn't download packages , i just downloaded the 'static' map from the skype site07:18
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Blissexaddone: you can, thats the default with 'Browse'07:19
XVampireXWhy don't you get the the deb package?07:19
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evert_because i'm using 64 bit , the deb is only for 32 bit07:19
XVampireXAh07:19
XVampireXHow about the QT version?07:19
XVampireXStatic binary tar.bz2 with Qt 3.2 compiled in (10.4 MB)07:19
XVampireX Use if the above dont work.07:19
evert_yes07:20
evert_i tried them both07:20
addoneit doesn't work, i got the same error dialog...07:20
XVampireXAnd what does it say?07:20
evert_they give both the same error :07:20
evert_./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:20
BazziRooo07:20
XVampireXYou need that library07:21
addoneBlissex, when i use "copy to", the current dir can't be choose07:21
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evert_in adept , i can see that that lib is already installed07:21
BazziRthey may try to load that from /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64 where you might have it07:21
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XVampireXYou need the exact same version too07:21
addoneand when i use "browse", i just got the same error dialog07:21
evert_yes , it's the same version (libpng 12)07:21
XVampireXWeird07:21
XVampireXIt says it cannot find the library07:22
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evert_but adept says that the lib is installed07:22
BazziRevert_: do a sudo updatedb and then locate libpng12.so where is it found?07:23
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Midspeedhi07:23
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evert_libpng12: /usr/lib/libpng12.a /usr/lib/libpng12.so /usr/include/libpng1207:24
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BazziRhm, create a symlink07:25
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Yon_0hey all07:25
evert_how can you do that ? (sry i'm quite new to linux)07:25
BazziRlibpng12.so -> libpng12.so.007:25
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squillaYon_0: hello07:25
Yon_0does anyone know java? or a channle i can join for a help07:25
Yon_0hey squilla :D07:25
evert_libpng12.so: /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 /usr/lib/libpng12.so07:25
BazziRusing "ln -s", you can find the exact syntax by typing man ln in the console07:25
Yon_0how u doin?07:25
BazziRoh07:25
XVampireXYon_0: ##java07:26
BazziRseems it's there afterall?07:26
squillaYon_0: coolio07:26
evert_i have to do what now ?07:26
Yon_0kk thx XVampireX07:26
Midspeedhey i have a question! sorry to butt in and all, but isnt there a way that i can upgrade my kubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 beta2?07:26
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BazziRweird problem then07:26
squillaevert: use the full path names - or it'll create a link where you are07:26
Midspeedwithout having to use a cd07:26
BazziRMidspeed: yes07:27
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Midspeedhow BazziR?07:27
Midspeedim new at this!07:27
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BazziRMidspeed: replace every "breezy" in your sources.list with "dapper" and then runapt-get update and afterwards apt-get dist-upgrade07:27
evert_i'm in /home/evert/installs/skype ...07:27
Brujahhy everybody!07:27
Midspeedok thanks im gonna try that right now07:27
Midspeedthanks BazziR07:28
BazziRgotta go now, the folks here can help you out surely.07:28
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Midspeedthanks07:28
Brujahare there any plans to make the startup of kubuntu  graphical like it is in mandriva, suse and the like?07:28
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squillaevert:"ln -s  libpng12.so /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0"07:29
squillaevert:but check that you have the correct file names07:29
squillaevert:aaargh - other way round!07:30
evert_so i have to do ln -s /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 libpng12.so.0 ?07:30
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squillaevert:try it07:31
squillaif you/re not sure type "man ln"07:31
squillaI'm hungry07:31
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evert_still the same eroor07:32
evert_error07:32
squillaearlier you could read where skype looks for libraries - copy paste that in our private tab please07:33
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gil_hello07:34
gil_is squilla07:34
gil_still here?07:34
squillagil:hi - in a private chat. wazzup?07:35
gil_well i need your help again :)07:35
squillagil:sure - tell07:35
gil_do you remember my problem07:36
gil_networking07:36
squillaja several hundred lines up :-D07:36
gil_anyways i got the eth0 to enable but i cant get ath0 to enable07:36
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squillado you need it?07:36
squillagil;do you need it?07:36
gil_my wireless yes07:37
squillagil:hmmkay07:37
gil_ifconfig picks up eth0 with the ip from router no poblem07:37
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squillagil: so: ifconfig shows what?07:37
gil_the following three: ath0 eth0 and lo07:38
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gil_ath0 is wireless atheros card... it pick it up with MAC adrees no ip adress07:38
gil_i cant enable it under system settings07:39
squillagil: so: sudo dhclient3 ath007:39
gil_ok can i have both wireless and ethernet hooked up at the same time07:40
squillagil: I'm assuming you have a dsl router07:40
gil_cable router yes07:40
squillawell ... not sure - you can't use them to connect to the net  in the same machine at the same time07:41
squillathat's loop I think07:41
gil_ok now when i do ifconfig i get the lo loop listed is that normal07:42
miliandoes anyone of you know when flash 8.5 (or 9?) is going to be released for linux?07:42
Yon_0squilla dont u know java?07:42
squillagil: lo should be listed all the time07:43
squillaYon_0: I code worse than my mom07:43
Yon_0lol, im struggeling with a damn input!07:43
squillaYon_0: ah . you too code worse than  my mom!07:44
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Yon_0lol ye07:44
Goffihi07:44
Yon_0can anyone code java here?07:44
squillahello07:45
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squillaYon_0: be a real man and learn python07:50
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cycomsquilla: be a real man and learn to accept java as your new master.07:52
evert_be a real man and learn c++07:53
cycomewww!07:53
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crimsunreal men don't worry about the language and just solve the problem instead.07:53
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Yon_0lol, i knew a lil bit before hey, its quick to learn07:54
cycomJava is like C++ with a condom on.  It's a lot safer to screw with.07:54
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evert_i never used java ... but how can it be 'safer' ?07:55
evert_less chance on memory leaks etc with pointers ?07:55
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skipjackhello07:59
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Vampisskipjack: hi08:00
squillahi08:00
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skipjackhello i have installed the Kubuntu Dapper Drake 6, but after the installation my system hangs at the "Mounting root file system..."  (my systems was hanging already as I want to install, after Loading Kernel ..  it hangs and after I have remove some ram and insert only 256MB it was sworking and the installer appears ..)08:01
dinoflycheck your ram with memtest08:02
skipjackI have the mem is oky, I and I have already installed only the 256MB module what I have use for the installation ..08:03
dinoflyyou already have checked if your ram is OK ?08:04
skipjackhmm.. now it boots after changing the ram and insderting the 512mb module.. I will test the ram a second time ..08:04
skipjackoky this problem will I find self out ;)08:05
skipjackis there an default root password by kubuntu? I think I haven't give any root password ..08:05
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squillaskip: type "sudo <command>"08:06
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squillaskip: and use your normal user password08:07
dinoflyskipjack: on ubuntu you have no root password08:07
dinoflyuse sudo instead08:08
siefkencpany one know of a good mysql gui thats not gonna cost me?08:09
squillaphpmysqladmin08:10
siefkencpaside from that08:10
Vampismysqlcc08:10
squillacheck adept08:10
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dinoflyi'm searching for such a tool too08:11
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siefkencpi used to use navicat... and i love it08:11
dinoflya "sqlyog" clone would be good08:11
siefkencpbut its too expensive to be worth my time08:11
siefkencpyeah sqlyog is pretty nice08:12
dinoflyi think we have to code it :)08:12
Vampis:D08:12
Vampisi use the console though08:12
Vampis:)08:13
siefkencpconsole?08:13
Vampishm, wich port does the VNC in gnome use? For the "desktop-sharing"08:13
Vampis?08:13
siefkencpas in... comand line..08:13
Vampissiefkencp: yes08:13
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siefkencpyeah comand line is great but i dont feel like setting up all the tables and such by hand... i guess im just a lazy bastard that way08:14
Vampislol08:14
Vampis :)08:14
Vampiswell, that can be a bitch08:14
Vampis:>08:14
siefkencpphp my admin is usefull but lacks on some features08:14
siefkencpi guess im just too damn picky08:15
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Vampisone should be picky08:15
Vampiswe settle for medium quality08:15
Vampis:D08:15
dinoflywhen you have to work all day on mysql, phpmyadmin is a pain08:15
dinoflyotherwise it is very useful08:15
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dinoflybut a web interface should always be a fallback solution08:16
Vampisyep08:16
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SmokeW33dhello08:17
SmokeW33ddoes anyone know the command to test my nividia driver08:17
SmokeW33dits that gears program08:17
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siefkencpdoes Ubuntu have a fire wall set up by default?08:18
VampisSmokeW33d: glxgears -printfps08:19
siefkencpi have yet to learn about how iptables and other such vodoo works08:19
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SmokeW33dVampis: thanks08:19
Vampisnp08:19
SmokeW33dVampis: now would you happen to know how to mount mds files?08:20
siefkencpwell, i get how they work08:20
siefkencpi just havent bothered to learn how to configure them at the command line08:20
VampisSmokeW33d: dunno, try like ordinary iso08:20
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SmokeW33dVampis: how would I do that08:21
VampisI dont mount manualy, I installed a servicemenu for kde08:21
SmokeW33dVampis: lol in other words?08:22
Vampisw808:22
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Ickehow do I manually start the gui (xserver) from the console?08:22
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LynoureIcke: startx should prolly work in ubuntu too08:23
petseihello :)08:23
SmokeW33dhello08:23
VampisSmokeW33d: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70785308:23
Vampislike that08:23
siefkencpany answers on how to list out the blocked or open ports on the default firewall?08:23
Vampishm, nmap ?08:24
SmokeW33dVampis: thanks08:24
OdyXsiefkencp: guarddog is pretty fine for that08:24
VampisSmokeW33d: Dont know if it works on mds files though08:24
siefkencpodyx: do i need to apt-get it?08:25
OdyXsiefkencp: yep08:25
OdyXsiefkencp: then launch guarddog08:25
VampisI just did08:25
Vampis:)08:25
VampisJust to check it out :)08:25
siefkencpkool... getting it08:26
Vampishm, looks nice08:26
Vampis*removes*08:26
Vampis:)08:26
siefkencpso theres no initial fire wall set up>08:26
siefkencp?08:26
Vampisdont think so08:26
siefkencphmm08:27
Vampisbut I'm not 100% sure08:27
siefkencpi cant remotely connect to mysql...08:27
Vampisare you behind a router ?08:27
SmokeW33dVampis: can utell me why i cant play mp3s?08:27
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siefkencpnope... both on the same subnet and all08:27
SmokeW33dVampis: in amarok with the xine engine installed08:28
SmokeW33dVampis: thanks again08:28
Vampisnp08:28
VampisTime 2 go home08:29
VampiscYa tomorrow08:29
Vampisor l8:er tonight08:29
Lynoureno initial firewall but no ports listening to incoming traffic by default08:29
siefkencpahh hah!08:29
siefkencphow do i fix that?08:30
siefkencphttp works08:30
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Lynouresiefkencp: http in from some other machine to yours works? Installed a server, then?08:30
siefkencpyeah... ive got the full lamppp stack my man08:31
Lynouresiefkencp: Just to orient myself right, what's your goal?08:31
siefkencpim just trying to connec to M from a foreign machine08:31
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Ickedamn textmode linux08:32
Lynoureand your apache is up and running and binding to a port?08:32
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siefkencpyep08:32
LynoureIcke: did you try startx already?08:32
siefkencpmysql is working fine on the loop back08:32
siefkencpbut when i try to access across the network it dies out08:33
Ickeyeah Lynoure , but it crashes08:33
LynoureIcke: damn. What display card?08:33
Lynouresiefkencp: Actually dies? Then there is something else wrong...08:33
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siefkencpIcke: have you tried removing x and reinstalling?08:34
siefkencpno it just wont allow the connection08:34
IckeWhen i boot to the login screen, I can enter my pass, the the screen goes black but i see the hourglass, that a second later turns into the cursor and responds to my mouse movement, but 2 seconds later, I am back at the login screen again08:34
siefkencpmysql is healthy08:34
siefkencpahh08:34
Ickegot an ATI X600 that worked with kubuntu before08:34
siefkencpthats a gnome/kde problem -- sounds like to me08:34
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Ickereinstalling X would be wise methinks08:35
siefkencpx runs you dm though08:35
Ickeah yes, so KDE is to blame?08:35
siefkencpbrb 2 secs08:35
siefkencpim guessing08:36
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dinoflyIcke: are you sure that your user has writing rights on his home directory ?08:38
LynoureIcke: I have X600 myself (on hp nc8230)08:38
IckeIm quite sure yes08:38
LynoureIcke: Look at the time stamp on your xorg config file, has it changed recently?08:38
Ickecertainly havent changed that, and it work for months08:38
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skipjackwhen I make sudo root | password prompt comes, and then I push enter .. and when I now make passwd root  the passwd command says me that I can't change password for root ..08:39
ziza!samba08:39
ubotusamba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html08:39
dinoflyIcke: i had the same problem after reinstalling without deleting my home partition08:39
Lynoureskipjack: Did you remember to write sudo there too? :)08:39
skipjackI have write sudo08:40
LynoureIcke: I asked whether it has changed, not if you changed it...08:40
Ickehow can I see the timestamp of my xorg config file?08:40
skipjackand I have write sudo su -  | or sudo passwd root nothing works ..08:40
siefkencpls -l08:40
LynoureIcke: At least in dapper ther has been xserver updates like rain, and sometimes updates stupidly modify config files08:40
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siefkencpIcke that ls -l was for ya08:42
LynoureIcke: ls -la filename08:42
Ickexorg.conf has not changed since 04-04-200608:42
Ickeand im quite sure it worked after that date08:42
Ickethanks for the tips btw guys08:43
Lynourehmm...08:43
Ickelearning my way around textmode the hard way :D08:43
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LynoureIcke: Sorry they wouldn't help. Which driver do you use for your x600, btw?08:43
v3ctorit is the only way08:43
dinoflyicke: have you tried to create a new user and to login with it ?08:44
Ickeill try that now08:44
siefkencpLynoure: doesnt X run the kdm/gdm?08:44
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siefkencpyou can always reconfig to get it runing in xdm... theres an etc file to do that... it will tell you if its truely x that is the problem08:45
Lynouresiefkencp: kind of other way around08:45
siefkencphmm08:45
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Ickei closed the graphical login screen, how do i get it back?08:45
siefkencpi think you can do gdm or kdm or xdm right at the comand line??08:46
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siefkencpi went through this before with a RHEL 4 problem08:46
v3ctor /etc/init.d/kdm start08:46
colo/etc/init.d/kdm start08:46
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dinoflyIcke: gdm if you use gnome, kdm if you use kde08:46
coloLAG FFS!08:46
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v3ctor ;P08:46
Icke"kdm" says it only runs as root and "sudo kdm" does seem to do anything08:47
v3ctorsudo  /etc/init.d/kdm start08:47
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siefkencpits not installed by default08:47
SeantaterIs there a way to get data from one computer to another in ~512MB sections, in a rsync-like fashion?08:47
siefkencpgdm is08:47
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Lynouresiefkencp: I think pretty much everyone go through an "my x does not start" problem at some point... usually whenever installing on a new computer..08:47
evertcan somebody give me a link of a download for kubuntu (dapper drake32 bit)08:48
siefkencpyah, i went through it after having my production machine humming along...08:48
Lynouresiefkencp:  but this is #kubuntu08:48
Lynouresiefkencp: so kdm is installed by default08:48
v3ctorSeantater: rsync08:48
Seantaterv3ctor: how?08:48
Ickek, got kdm running again, how do i create a new user?08:48
siefkencpLynoure: if you start in gnome and install kde with synaptic... you wont get kdm with out hunting for it08:49
dinoflyIcke: in text mode :p08:49
v3ctor-B is for block size08:49
Ickeobviously :D08:49
dinoflyuseradd new_user08:49
Lynouresiefkencp: but then you are kinda not on kubuntu either.. or maybe...08:49
dinoflysudo useradd new_user08:49
Nirvana!kdfjhsdf08:49
ubotuNirvana: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:49
Lynouresiefkencp: apt-get install kdm  ,I bet, no hunting08:50
siefkencpLynoure: i dont know man... i just roll with what i got... today im runnin kde08:50
v3ctorrsync -a -B=524288 -e ssh source:/file destination08:50
Seantaterv3ctor: How about saving that block to a usb stick and taking it to another computer?08:50
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Lynouresiefkencp: :)08:50
Seantaterv3ctor: will that do it?08:50
siefkencpit makes no dif... its not like i ever log out or restart the thing08:50
Lynouresiefkencp: woman, I understand completely :)08:50
v3ctorSeantater: give me a sec to test08:51
Ickenew user did not work08:51
siefkencpyou callin me a woman? lol?08:51
Ickesame problem as my regular account08:51
Seantaterv3ctor: hum -- let me look at that  and make sure you know my problem.. I'm not sure I phrased it right..08:52
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skipjackhehe oky lets see what the Kubuntu from the LinuxTag 2006 can ;) do for me ;)08:52
Ickehow can i see my what videodriver I have?08:52
Ickei suspect that that is to blame08:52
Ickethat or KDE08:52
v3ctorSeantater: works here08:53
Seantaterv3ctor: I've got 1/2 gazillion files to move from comp a to comp b, and I can the files on either from the opposite, but the net is too slow for transfer, so I want to use a USB memory stick..08:53
v3ctormay want to check on the size i put though..my math sucks08:53
siefkencpif it were a vid driver... it wouldnt just boot you back to kde... i dont suspect08:53
dinoflyIcke: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver08:53
jagerhow do i convince firefox to use the mozilla-mplayer plugin?08:53
Seantaterv3ctor: if that will do it, I'm game!08:53
jagerinstead of totem-mozilla?08:53
dinoflyi don't think it's your video driver Icke08:54
skipjackhmm now it hangs by Mounting root file systems ...08:54
dinoflyif you are in graphical mode then your video driver works08:54
Ickeyeah08:54
siefkencpmy arguement as well08:54
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Ickeso you reckon its kde?08:55
dinoflyhard to say08:56
dinoflythe user you newly created has the same problem ?08:56
Ickeyes08:56
Seantaterv3ctor: so in that case, I replace the source/dest with a folder and the take the usb stick, and cp it into the actual dest.. Okay -- Thanks!08:57
dinoflystrange... sorry i can't help you more08:57
Ickethanks anyway08:57
v3ctor ;)08:57
Ickei have to go now anyway08:57
dinoflygood luck :)08:57
LynoureLogs might have had something08:59
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NEOelderalgum me sabe dizer onde posso sakar a verso DVD? j sakei dos servidores indicados no site duas vezes mas sempre que tento instalar no VMware d erro num dos ficheiros...09:02
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NEOeldersorry!09:04
LynoureNEOelder: sorry, cannot understand more the DVD and VMware :/09:04
NEOelderhaven't notice this was in english09:05
dinoflyi think "ficheiros" means "file"09:05
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NEOelderwhere can I find the DVD version??? I have already downloaded from the site server... but there is always an error in one of the files!!!09:06
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NEOelderI've triyed to install it on VMware but cont move on because of an error with one of the files.....09:07
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Bartsk8Bonjour tlm =] 09:07
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Nirvana!fr09:17
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:17
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headyhi there, how to make gmail-notify to start up and log in after logging in to kubuntu ??09:19
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Nirvanaheady: look in the /use/share/autostart folder09:26
Nirvanaheady: that would be /usr/share/Autostart actually.09:26
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pussfelleraint there an autostart in .kde somewhere?09:32
v3ctoryes09:32
DaSkreechAnyone knows what is needed outside of echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward for address forwarding?09:32
v3ctor ~/.kde/Autostart09:33
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Bartsk8Salut09:44
Bartsk8J'ai ce problme : checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!09:45
Bartsk8Quelqu'un pourrait m'aider?09:45
SeantaterBartsk8: try typing the following into a terminal:09:46
SeantaterBartsk8: apt-get install xorg-dev09:46
Bartsk8root@breezy:/home/meuwa/Desktop# sudo apt-get install xorg-dev09:46
Bartsk8Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait09:46
Bartsk8Construction de l'arbre des dpendances... Fait09:46
Bartsk8E: Impossible de trouver le paquet xorg-dev09:46
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SeantaterBartsk8: then do this:09:47
SeantaterBartsk8: apt-get install x-dev09:47
Bartsk8root@breezy:/home/meuwa/Desktop# sudo apt-get install x-dev09:48
Bartsk8Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait09:48
Bartsk8Construction de l'arbre des dpendances... Fait09:48
Bartsk8Aucune version du paquet x-dev n'est disponible, mais il existe dans la base09:48
Bartsk8de donnes. Cela signifie en gnral que le paquet est manquant, qu'il est devenu obsolte09:48
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Bartsk8ou qu'il n'est disponible que sur une autre source09:48
Bartsk8E: Aucun paquet ne correspond au paquet x-dev09:48
Bartsk8root@breezy:/home/meuwa/Desktop#09:48
Bartsk8Still nothing09:49
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KDEfanboyif kubuntu be installed over an existing linux partition that has a directory, say /myfiles, will it install onto it without modifying/removing anything in there? ..for either versions 5.10 or 709:49
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SeantaterBartsk8: okay -- try this and then either of the above suggested commands:09:49
Seantaterapt-get update09:49
Bartsk8It's already done09:50
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KDEfanboy..and does any version have a graphical (not ncurses) installer?09:50
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Bartsk8I don't understand the question :/09:51
SeantaterKDEfanboy: you want to install kubuntu with a GUI? just use the Live CD, it has an Installer now.. It's called Expresso09:51
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SeantaterBartsk8: KDEfanboy was not personally asking you..09:51
Bartsk8Seantater -> When I try to install xlibs-deb from Adept09:51
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Bartsk8I've a message which say that the pacjage is break09:52
SeantaterBartsk8: ah-ha!09:52
SeantaterBartsk8: that whoudl do it..09:52
KDEfanboySeantater: yeah that's perfect - it's nice to use the computer while installing. is that in 5.10?09:52
SeantaterI mean would, bot whoudl09:52
Bartsk8For xlibs-dev and every all packages who are around x09:52
SeantaterKDEfanboy: nope, only 6.0609:52
Bartsk8Is there any solution?09:52
KDEfanboyoh09:53
SeantaterBartsk8: what does apt-get install say09:53
Bartsk8With wich cmd ?09:53
SeantaterBartsk8: let me rephrase that: what does this command say "apt-get install", with no quotes09:53
Bartsk8apt-get xlibs-dev ?09:53
SeantaterBartsk8: just don;t give it anything to install.09:53
Bartsk8Ok09:53
Bartsk8I send you in pv09:54
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mmport81hi10:01
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mmport81i just installed win32codecs10:01
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mmport81but kaboodle or kaffeine doesn't pick them up10:02
mmport81i used freecontrib.org repository10:02
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mmport81any ideas?10:02
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KDEfanboymmport81: i think i had a problem like that once.. i remember having to load xine and then setup win32codecs in there10:02
ninHerhi all10:02
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KDEfanboythen i took the config file that it wrote,10:03
OwlNoobHi all. just installed gnunet by apt and open ports and still not get any connexions... Any successes here?10:03
Black_Codechi10:03
KDEfanboyand put it where the config file is for kaffeine... something like $KDEHOME/share/config/kaffiene/10:03
Black_Codecsomebody speak italian here?10:03
KDEfanboyor something10:03
mmport81eek10:03
mmport81i did on my last setup no probs at all...10:03
KDEfanboymmport81: yeah.. kaffeine had its own copy of xine config file. it didn't use the one in .xine10:04
headyhow to select text in shell with keyboard ???10:04
Black_CodecHi, somebody speak italian?10:04
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KDEfanboymmport81: this was a while back.. does kaffeine have a place to setup win32codecs directory in its configuration nowadays?10:05
mmport81i'll have a quick look10:05
mmport81last time i insalled it on breezy i hadn't any probs...10:06
KDEfanboyi hate when that happens10:06
KDEfanboylol10:06
KDEfanboyi wasn't using kubuntu though.. just remembering how i fixed that for me on gentoo10:08
mmport81oh i'm too damn tired for fixing this stuff...  will leave it for another day10:09
mmport81thx for the help tho kdefanboy!!10:09
KDEfanboynp10:09
rordonezhello ... my friends !  i need to play mp3, but i have an error ... "gstreamer error" !10:09
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Nirvanarordonez: do you have the codecs installed?10:12
Nirvanaif your new, try easyubuntu10:13
Nirvana!easyubuntu10:13
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skipjackis it possibel to add a menue item to the right click menue ? I want to habe a Open Terminal entry there ..10:21
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KDEfanboyskipjack: in Konqueror?10:25
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skipjackKDEfanboy,  no kde desktop ..10:25
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pussfellerskipjack, thats konqueror10:28
skipjackyes who can I change the menue? whithout making a personal new menue ? I want to have the old entries already i the menue ..10:29
zorgluuuq. how can i configure xchat to launch konqueror and not firefox ?10:29
Hooblytrying to get Evolution to work with Exchange.  Does my Win23K server with Exchange23K have to have anything special installed?10:29
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KDEfanboyskipjack: hmm well if you mean right click on the desktop, you can setup a custom menu for a mouse button. in kcontrol -> Behavior -> Mouse Button Actions -> and set it to Custom Menu, edit it10:30
skipjackyes oky I will see ;)10:31
skipjackis dapper drake 6 when I do apt-get upgrade running with kde4? because I think it downloading some things with a 4 .. ?10:32
tschentzQt: 3.3.610:33
tschentzKDE: 3.5.210:33
tschentzKDesktop: 3.5.210:33
tschentzi don't think so...10:33
tschentzthis is dapper drake10:33
tschentzand kde 4 is not finished yet as far as i know10:34
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tschentzKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment software, which is planned to be released in early 2007.  from :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE410:35
pussfelleri think skipkack means a context menu10:37
pussfelleryou can always put a link to application on yer desktop10:37
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pussfellerto konsole, and then in konqueror, when you are in a dir, you go to toos, show terminal emulator, and one pops up10:38
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XVampireXWoot, I just realized how much awesome KDE4 will be10:38
coloor just hit F410:38
StFShi... I'm having problems with gamin (file monitoring thingy) eating up a lot of CPU... anyone else been through this? Is there a solution?10:38
colofiwth default keybinds10:38
Hooblyanyone know how to check mail from exchange server with Evolution?10:39
colothere's a special connector for that purpose, i believe10:41
tschentzin ubuntu it is already installed... you can use the account assistant... there you have the option to choose exchange server,....10:43
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Hooblycolo: is it the evolution-exchange package in adept?  If so, I have that installed10:44
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Hooblyno error messages, but when configuring an account in Evolution for use with the Exchange server, I cannot proceed after entering the username10:44
colodunno, i'm 100% proprietary-software-free ;)10:45
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XVampireXIt seems KDE4 will have its own IM program10:45
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Nirvanawhat's the name?10:45
XVampireXno idea10:45
pussfellerkopete is the "official" im client i thot10:45
XVampireXhttp://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/01/12/kde4.html?page=110:46
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pussfellerscheduled for greater integration into the rest10:46
ubuntuHello, noob here :( I just tried Kunbutu for the first time LiveDVD not bad so far. I was wondering how can I get mIRC to work? I heard somethign called WINE?10:46
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XVampireX"John Littler: The new features I remember include a bucketload of bug fixes, a universal messaging client, and a big cleanup of the GUI. Are there more things that you should mention"10:46
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_marchi10:46
Nirvanaubuntu: you don't need mIRC, this is IRC, and just like it10:46
_marci need to "exit x"10:46
pyluytenpussfeller - some good linux irc client exist !10:47
Darkness123Cab I use mIRC Scripts ?10:47
_marcto install nvidia's drivers10:47
Darkness123or SysReset ?10:47
XVampireXDarkness123: Why don't you rather use xchat or konversation?10:47
_marcctrl - alt -backspace just restarts x rather than exit it10:47
_marcto commandline10:47
Nirvana_marc: ctrl alt backspace10:47
_marcany idea?10:47
_marcNirvana: it wont exit it, it'll just restart it10:47
Darkness123I think my PC is going faster.... ?10:47
XVampireXmarc: You can't exit X10:48
_marcbut i have to10:48
Nirvana_marc: why do you need to exit? vid drivers?10:48
pussfellerubuntu, once wine is set up, you should just ckick on the mirc.exe if its going to work without a bunch of tweaking which is beyond my power to explain at this point10:48
_marcin order to install the nvidia drivers10:48
_marcfor the gpu10:48
XVampireXYou need ctrl alt backspace10:48
Darkness123Since I am on LiveDVD if I make shortcuts on the Desktop will it remember for the next time ?10:48
pussfellersudo /etc/init.d/kde restart10:48
_marcctrl-alt-backspace wont exit it, it'll just restart it10:48
XVampireXThere's no such thing as exiting exiting x10:48
pussfellererr, kdm restart10:48
XVampireXIf you don't know what X is...10:49
Nirvana_marc: IIRC you just go to Ctrl + Alt + F1, login, type what the guide says to, and then restart X10:49
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pussfellerexiting x wont stop kdm10:49
_marcwhat would ctrl-alt-f1 do10:49
Nirvanarestart it, after you type what the guide says of course10:49
Nirvanait = Xorg10:49
pussfellerand kdm needs to be stoped to reread the new xorg.conf adnd use new drivers10:49
_marcERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.10:49
XVampireXExiting X would mean restarting it10:50
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pussfellerno, it would go back to kdm login screen :)10:50
Darkness123Cool the taskbar goes :D10:50
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XVampireXWhich is what ctrl alt backspace does10:50
iNikuXVampireX: of course you can "exit X", that is, to stop it from running10:50
Darkness123Main reason I wanna try Linux is I read its good and Vista I do not have the money to buy new MB and CPU and AGP10:50
_marcXVampireX: restarts kde/x/whatever10:50
iNiku_marc: press ctrl-alt-f1 to go to a console, then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop10:50
_marcso any idea?10:50
iNikuor gdm, if you're using gnome10:51
_marckde, kubutu that is10:51
XVampireXmarc I know that it restarts X10:51
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_marciNiku: and after im done, how would i bring it all up?10:51
iNiku_marc: /etc/init.d/kdm start10:51
iNikuor gdm for gnome10:51
_marcaight10:51
_marcthanks alot10:51
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iNikuXVampireX: it's the display manager (kdm or gdm) that restarts X when it dies10:51
pussfellerdon't worry, noones else is going to buy vista either10:52
XVampireXI know10:52
XVampireXdisplay manager lies on top of X10:52
XVampireXSo if you stop X, you stop the KDM10:52
iNikuXVampireX: wrong, the display manager in fact starts up X10:52
iNikuand starts it up again if it dies.10:52
XVampireXYeah right :P10:52
pussfellerheh, this is  a pointless arguement :)10:52
iNikuthat's how it works.10:52
XVampireXFine :P10:53
iNikuwhat's pointless is telling somebody they cannot "exit X"10:53
Nirvanamy X is better than your X10:54
XVampireXmy y is better than your y10:55
pussfellermy x is a hottie10:55
lunitikiNiku: actually... the display manager is just the graphical interface... the SCRIPT '/etc/inet.d/kdm' contains information to start and stop X ... X starts itself when its told by said script, ?DM starts itself when its told by said script10:55
lunitikiNiku: incase you really want to get technical10:55
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__marc__sigh didnt go so well10:56
lunitikiNiku: other than the fact that /etc/inet.d/kdm is part of the 'kdm' package... it has very little to do with kdm... and is infact not even part of the upstream package10:56
__marc__gcc is missing ^_^10:56
__marc__bash: gcc: command not found10:57
Nirvana!gcc10:57
ubotugcc is probably the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'10:57
__marc__bash: cc: command not found10:57
lunitik__dennis: apt-get install built-essential10:57
Darkness123Can I install WINE if I am using LiveDVD ?10:57
Nirvanabut, gcc isn't a command is it?10:57
NirvanaDarness123: yes10:57
Nirvana!wine10:57
__marc__its a c compiler10:57
iNikulunitik: huh? /etC/init.d/kdm is an init script that's used to start kdm when the system boots up. I have no idea what /etc/inet.d/kdm might be.10:57
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lunitik__marc__: apt-get install build-essential10:57
Darkness123!Wine10:57
Nirvanadon't know if it works with caps10:57
Nirvanabut it works lowercase10:57
pyluytenAn internet doc said to 'export DISPLAY' with 127.0.0.1:0 value. Has exporting display with such a value a sense ? i am not a technician : )10:58
lunitikiNiku: again trying to be technical... /etc/init.d/kdm is NOT part of upstream kdm... it is infact a Debian specific hack.10:58
Nirvanahence why debian rock10:59
Nirvanarocks^10:59
iNikulunitik: I'm not sure what you're trying to say10:59
iNikubut the X server is in fact started by kdm11:00
__marc__lunitik: awesome, thanks11:00
iNikuor whatever display manager yo uuse11:00
Darkness123Cool it asked me to terminate a nonworking window. lol11:00
iNiku /etc/init.d/kdm start gets run at boot time to start kdm11:00
iNikuand kdm will start the X server and will keep restarting it if it dies11:00
colois there a quick way to hammer mp3-support into amarok on a live-system?11:01
iNikuso if you want to stop X from running, you need to stop the display manager from running.11:01
Nirvanacolo: if you apt-get install xmms it's prolly quicker11:02
coloi'd like to test afew of amarok's preconfigured streams11:02
Nirvanaoh11:02
colobut they seem to stream mp3 instead of vorbis11:02
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coloexcept that video-game-ost one11:02
Nirvanahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-a57167a3ce442dc52d9b05e46a14503330d4e97011:03
colobut that's not the kind of stuff i'm in the mood for right now ;)11:03
Nirvanacolo ^^11:03
coloi see, so it's in external repos11:03
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_marc_argh11:03
_marc_me again ^_^11:04
_marc_i need the kernel's source files11:04
Seantaterflight 7 is released, right?11:04
Nirvana!flight711:04
ubotuit has been said that flight7 is available via http://www.ubuntu.com/testing11:04
_marc_or at least thats what nvidia wants11:04
SeantaterNirvana: Thanks11:04
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_marc_anyone?11:05
Nirvana_marc_: you do need kernel source files I think11:05
Seantateris there a Kubuntu variant of flight 7?11:05
_marc_Nirvana: how do i get them?11:05
Nirvanawhat type of computer do you have?11:06
_marc_as in processor? amd athlon6411:06
_marc_ive got a good one11:06
SeantaterNirvana: i38611:07
_marc_amd64 for me11:07
SeantaterNirvana: sorry -- you were not asking me..11:07
_marc_Seantater: ^_^11:07
coloxine-extracodecs did it :)11:08
colofine11:08
cololet's listen to something other than my local collection11:08
Nirvanahttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/11:08
Nirvana_marc_: what type computer?11:09
NirvanaSeantater: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/11:09
_marc_Nirvana: as in what11:09
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Nirvanai386, amd64, mac11:09
_marc_amd6411:09
Nirvanaok11:09
Nirvanagood thing I know AMD64 like the back of my hand </sarcasm>11:10
coloi'm running flight7 for amd64 right now11:10
colofor about 2 days or so11:10
_marc_i guess im going to switch the hdds back11:10
_marc_and boot windows up11:10
_marc_lol11:10
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colowithout problems :)11:10
Nirvana_marc_: I found it!11:11
_marc_did you?11:11
Nirvana_marc_: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k711:11
NirvanaI think11:11
_marc_E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-k711:12
NirvanaKubuntu 6.06?11:12
_marc_5.10 i believe11:13
Nirvanaoh11:13
Nirvanaone sec11:13
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KDEfanboyis it possible to install Dapper on an existing partition and preserve the files already on there?11:13
SeantaterKDEfanboy: no, but you can update instead..11:14
SeantaterKDEfanboy: it will give you what you are looking for11:14
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Nirvana_marc_: do you have extra repos enabled?11:14
_marc_an extra what?11:14
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KDEfanboySeantater: well I want to migrate from gentoo to kubuntu but keep user files.. maybe 5.10 can?11:15
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Nirvana_marc_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28enable%29%7C%28extra%29%7C%28repositories%2911:16
SeantaterKDEfanboy: I'm afraid you can't do that except backing up files and then putting them back11:16
Nirvana_marc_: specific part of the page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto#head-3af7264a0e97edbc5bf039e5bdb971f46c43269a11:16
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_marc_i understand nothing there11:17
_marc_i dont even have the menus it refers to11:17
Nirvanadid you read the kubuntu part? with adept?11:18
_marc_it cannot find adept11:18
Nirvanait should be in the K menu under system11:18
_marc_kynaptic is the closest name11:18
Darkness123How do you open Folders?11:18
Nirvanaopen the konsole and type apt-get install adept11:19
NirvanaDarkness123: click on them11:19
_marc_E: Couldn't find package adept11:19
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Darkness123Oh Konqurer opens them.11:19
Nirvana_marc_: follow this guide then: http://psychocats.net/linux/sources.php scroll down to  Breezy (5.10)11:20
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Darkness123Isn't there a website for newbies ?11:22
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OdyXDarkness123: install desktop-guide11:24
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_marc_Nirvana: done, im after the apt-get update part11:24
NirvanaDarkness123: ubuntuforums.org, kubuntuforums.net, http://kudos.berlios.de/, desktop-guide, kubuntu-docs11:24
Nirvana_marc_: after apt-get update, you apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7 and hope to god I spelt restricted right11:25
_marc_E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-k711:25
_marc_im out of here11:25
_marc_gonna hook the windows hdd back11:25
Nirvanalol11:25
NirvanaOK then11:25
_marc_and retry this later11:25
_marc_thanks alot for your time man11:25
Nirvanano problem11:26
Nirvanain that case11:26
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PupenoHello.11:28
PupenoKSCD shows the CDDB information but audiocd stopped doing so, any ideas what might be the problem ?11:28
PupenoI've tried various CDs with no luck.11:28
pyluytenDid Kscd merged to "freedb" ?11:30
Pupenopyluyten: when I start kscd it says loading freedb, but I think I know what's the problem.11:30
PupenoThank you.11:30
Pupenos/loading/quering/11:31
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Nirvanascratch the eating dinner part11:32
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zorgluuuq. im trying to install the flash player plugin, where should i put it to get konqueror to find it ?11:32
Nirvanayou can put it anywhere, as long as you add that folder to the netscape plugin section of Konqueror settings11:34
dinoflysudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree11:34
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everthello all , i just installed kubuntu dapper drake on my pc ... but when i wanna install software (with adept) i get an error11:35
evertwhen starting adept : teh apt database could not be openeld ! this may be caused by incorrect apt configuration or some simular problem.11:36
everthow can i solve this pls ?11:36
evertit's a clean install , just finished 2 minutes ago11:36
Nirvanawhich version?11:36
Nirvanaif dapper11:36
evert6.06 beta 211:36
Nirvanathen upgrade11:36
Nirvanayeah11:36
Nirvanaknown bug11:36
evertthe upgrade ?11:36
NirvanaI got it too11:36
evertthat's 250Mb11:37
Nirvanasudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:37
Nirvanaevert: should jigdo'd your iso to flight 7 :P11:37
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Nirvanaactually11:37
Nirvanaevert: just upgrade adept11:38
evert_ok11:38
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Nirvanayou can use aptitude to aid you in this if you need something better than a flat command line (though aptitude is a command line apt frontend)11:39
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nagyvHello! Anyone with experiences with irda and kubuntu? How could I download the images from my mobile phone? (No bluetooth.)12:02
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