[12:03] SuperK: well, if you upgraded etc. it just ''should work''. [12:04] the CTRL-c command? [12:04] I just don't have an icon for it in any of my menus, I had it in Hoary though [12:05] what does the CTRL-c command do? And where do I use it? [12:07] Do they have some type of menu editor in KDE, SuperK ? [12:08] probably but I wouldn't know where :) === Negrita [n=103363E3@87.68.146.15.cable.012.net.il] has joined #kubuntu [12:08] SuperK, hehe..yeah..there are a lot of menus in KDE :) === _avatar [n=avatar@CPE0013109a57b1-CM00111adf6820.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:09] Right, I was expecting just to see it under 'system' or utilities === _avatar [n=avatar@CPE0013109a57b1-CM00111adf6820.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:09] I mean it's obviously installed, just no icon === Negrita [n=103363E3@87.68.146.15.cable.012.net.il] has left #kubuntu [] [12:09] and no menu entry === edulix_ [n=edulix@87.218.66.13] has joined #kubuntu === _avatar [n=avatar@CPE0013109a57b1-CM00111adf6820.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === _avatar is now known as JimmyFive === JimmyFive [n=avatar@CPE0013109a57b1-CM00111adf6820.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:15] SuperK, I'm just reading a thread on kcontrol atm... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170526 === margouyab_ [n=yanawill@44.94.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:15] SuperK, seems that is just the way its sets up...as in this thread they talk about loading it via command line too [12:15] I'll check it out too === edulix__ [n=edulix@87.218.67.63] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] hmmm interesting, maybe kcontrol doesn't come with it by default [12:17] yeah... [12:18] just going offline...sister wants to call on phone line :) === ru [n=ru@wbs-196-46-70-228.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu [12:18] But I should be able to put it in my menus or desktop I would think [12:18] reading further === _pedro [n=pedro@152.Red-88-7-180.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:20] <_pedro> Good night [12:21] <_pedro> I am looking for repositories to install kmplayer with aptitude [12:21] <_pedro> I cannot find it === _admin [n=admin@88.144.0.83] has joined #kubuntu === _admin [n=admin@88.144.0.83] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:22] guess I'll just have to alt-f2 [12:23] Ill be back later, got some stuff to do...thanks again === Khaotik [n=jacob@cpe-70-114-138-228.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === bsm [n=rob@p5483AE7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === bipolar [n=bflong@66.216.151.176.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #kubuntu === Khaotik [n=jacob@cpe-70-114-138-228.houston.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === edulix__ is now known as Edulix === _oscar [n=oscar@193.205.251.34] has joined #kubuntu === _oscar [n=oscar@193.205.251.34] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [12:32] <_pedro> would I do it installing from Marillat's repositories? === Snake[Sleep] is now known as Snake__ === yanis_ [n=yanis@dsl-88-218-24-182.customers.vivodi.gr] has joined #kubuntu === morrow [i=aw@mailadm.in] has joined #kubuntu === squilla [n=dave@dsl-146-161-222.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] good news === duckdown [n=duckdown@unaffiliated/duckdown] has joined #kubuntu === Unit_ [n=unition@206.75.31.189] has left #kubuntu ["FUEL!"] === rraajj [n=raj@124.106.135.47] has joined #kubuntu === Lurkan [n=agsm@dsl-201-128-14-215.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #kubuntu === Cleotis [n=Clovis_L@dsl-63-166-223-42.olp.net] has joined #kubuntu === erov [n=j@c-69-247-101-157.hsd1.ms.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === paran [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #kubuntu === erov [n=j@c-69-247-101-157.hsd1.ms.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Snake__ [n=Snake@unaffiliated/snake/x-17964] has joined #kubuntu === TimMagic [n=tmlukejo@80-41-160-251.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu === mzuverink [n=marc@adsl-69-208-69-233.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #kubuntu === Dasnipa` [n=Dasnipa@c-67-162-122-104.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:12] I am using dapper, did a server install, added ubuntu-desktop and then kubuntu-desktop. All the multimedia application installed by ubuntu-desktop fuction properly, however all kubuntu-desktop multimedia apps fail to play any media. They just quickly speed through a song or movie and then off to the next playlist item without making any sound or video. === chris____ [n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === chris____ is now known as oofus === mustard5 [n=mustard5@103.a.002.sop.iprimus.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === _greg [n=greg@c-68-43-69-152.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === morgan [n=morgan@cpe-65-28-245-222.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === _greg is now known as Tanooki === Snake__ [n=Snake@unaffiliated/snake/x-17964] has joined #kubuntu === antx [n=antx@d5152D605.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] !mp3 [01:22] hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-22-142163031158.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:25] Anyone got any ideas why none of the KDE multimedia apps will play multimedia for me? They just quickly speed through and go off to the next on the playlist. [01:26] No codec for said file :P [01:26] Kyral: I have the whole lot, good bad and ugly and they play proper in gnome apps [01:27] then change Kaffiene/Amarok over to GStreamer's engine [01:27] Kyral: I try that, thanks === eric_ [n=eric@ip68-97-216-225.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === Isaiah [n=Isaiah@208-187-93-4.br1.hnv.mi.frontiernet.net] has left #kubuntu [] === eric_ is now known as oknewbie === oknewbie [n=eric@ip68-97-216-225.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:30] Kyral: gstreamer is not an option anywhere as I can tell and I do not see it anywhere in the repos for dapper for either kaffiene or amarok [01:31] Kyral: only arts and xine [01:31] Does anyone here know how to cofigure xorg to use the Radeon driver? [01:31] activate Uni and Multi [01:31] Its there, I know it is [01:32] they are active and they are not there === angasule [n=angasule@190.49.193.164] has joined #kubuntu [01:32] How would I run my 'wpa_supplicant -Dmadwifi -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' at runtime? 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know what's causing this when I try ./configure? [03:42] do you have all of the gcc-* packages installed === DiThi [n=dithi@212.230.230.253] has joined #kubuntu === DiThi [n=dithi@212.230.230.253] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === stuq [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === Cheapie [n=Adm@londonderry-cuda1-68-234-71-44.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:52] erov - yeah === todd [n=todd@S0106001346c32123.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === beefsprocket [n=beefspro@bas1-toronto02-1177911425.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu === todd [n=todd@S0106001346c32123.cg.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === loutrine [n=loutrine@static-203-192-64-14.sa.chariot.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === GullyFoyle [n=jpar@c-67-186-132-117.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === mic_ [n=micah@66-207-82-135.dmt.ntelos.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === johnny3d [n=johnny3d@pool-71-254-233-180.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:15] hello I have done research on getting sound in kubuntu. I have discovered that I don't have the /dev/audio directory. Should I simply make the directory? [04:15] johnny3d do you have /dev/dsp ? [04:16] no, I don't, NoUse === khaije [n=callisto@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:16] johnny3d: /dev/{audio,mixer,dsp} are deprecated; they're oss-specific. We use alsa instead of oss. [04:17] !tell johnny3d about sound [04:17] (granted /dev/{audio,mixer,dsp} should exist because we unconditionally load snd_pcm_oss...) [04:17] johnny3d try the debuggingsoudn link ubotu sent you [04:17] will do, thankyou [04:18] um, that debugging info needs to be revamped. [04:19] johnny3d: pastebin the info from ``lspci -nv && lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0'' === \etc\bin [n=elmer@58.71.13.198] has joined #kubuntu [04:21] ok, crimsun standby [04:25] crimsun, NoUse, http://pastebin.com/706711 === angasule [n=angasule@190.49.193.164] has joined #kubuntu [04:26] johnny3d: how new is the motherboard? [04:27] crimsun, a month old but it was sold cheap because no floppy [04:27] johnny3d: link me to the manufacturer's Web page for specs [04:28] ok [04:29] your hardware's pci ids aren't even listed, but my guess is it's either ac97 or hda === angasule [n=angasule@190.49.193.164] has left #kubuntu ["So] === tim [n=tim@66-227-200-134.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu [04:35] crimsun, i have the spec book [04:38] crimsun, it is ac97 [04:38] http://www.valuelist.co.uk/ProductDetailPage.asp?guid=&ticketid=0&productID=2847 === Snake[Lappy] is now known as Snake__ [04:39] How do I upgrade from kubuntu 5.10 to kubuntu 6.06 === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu === I_Eat_Plastic [n=I_Eat_Pl@pool-72-64-106-53.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === thunderbolt [n=ryan@69-170-83-197.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:41] !tell tim about upgrade [04:41] johnny3d: sec. === unreal [n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal] has joined #kubuntu [04:54] johnny3d: pastebin lsmod, please [04:56] crimsun, http://pastebin.com/706755 === enoch [n=enoch@71-9-147-223.dhcp.chtn.wv.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === enoch is now known as Widdershins [04:58] johnny3d: ``sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0'' [04:59] crimsun, http://pastebin.com/706756 [05:00] johnny3d: pastebin ``dmesg'' === khaije [n=callisto@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #kubuntu [] === utta [n=brandon@c-24-128-224-224.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu [05:02] crimsun, [05:02] http://pastebin.com/706757 [05:03] thankyou very much for your help thus far [05:03] johnny3d: hmm, is this a default breezy install, or did you compile your own kernel? [05:03] crimsun, default [05:04] where is it getting device_mode from? === khaije [n=callisto@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:04] I don't understand the question [05:04] nevermind [05:04] need lsmod again [05:06] crimsun, I went into BIOS earlier and changed the esd to pci http://pastebin.com/706759 === khaije is now known as khaije1 [05:10] johnny3d: sudo modprobe -r snd_ac97_bus snd_page_alloc [05:11] done, with no reaction, crimsun === khaije1 [n=callisto@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #kubuntu [] === khaije [n=callisto@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === khaije [n=callisto@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #kubuntu [] === unreal [n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal] has joined #kubuntu [05:15] johnny3d: good. Now, sudo depmod -e [05:15] johnny3d: after that, sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 [05:18] crimsun, sudo depmod -e freezes the shell === khaije [n=callisto@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:18] johnny3d: mm, ok, that's a sign of a larger problem. Has it finished yet and returned to a prompt? [05:19] yes [05:21] crimsun, http://pastebin.com/706768 [05:22] johnny3d: run that modprobe -r command again [05:22] johnny3d: afterward, this time, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel [05:24] crimsun, http://pastebin.com/706770 [05:26] crimsun, I don't know if this is related but at startup PCMCIA doesn't load [05:28] johnny3d: can you try booting with "acpi=off"? [05:28] I can try [05:28] brb === tweek [n=tweek@str90-2-82-243-228-86.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:30] salut === kkathman [n=kkathman@71.123.131.178] has joined #kubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu [05:35] yo C-O-L-T :) === johnny3d [n=johnny3d@pool-71-254-233-180.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:35] yo kkathman [05:35] crimsun, done [05:36] hi robotgeek === Starwatcher [n=David@67-54-207-99.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #kubuntu === Snake__ is now known as Snake[Sleep] === ep [n=mdr@ip68-97-122-135.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === shadowfox [n=wgunadi@c-67-162-227-225.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:47] am running without acpi, crimsun === Desh [n=fries@adsl-3-71-191.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:48] johnny3d: what happens when you modprobe snd-intel8x0 ? [05:49] hmmm use php-qt becouse i know php , or learn python python-qt ;) [05:49] crimsun, http://pastebin.com/706795 [05:50] Ok, How do I install the sources for my kernel, k7, in order to use ndiswrapper? [05:50] ln -s /usr/src/linux- /lib/modules/VERSION/build <-- Does not work [05:50] On boot up, fsck was run because one of my volumes (not sure which, how do i tell?) was mounted more than thirty times... This is not unusual (i boot daily) but this time it failed. I'm not sure how to run fsck on a mounted file system. What should I do? [05:50] Desh: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` [05:51] johnny3d: urg. I'm guessing it doesn't work with Breezy either? [05:51] crimsun, nope [05:51] Why would installing usbmgr kill my USB access, CD's autoloading anf ndiswrapper? [05:51] *and [05:52] It still won;t work... === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] the new updated samba tutorial STILL doesn't have information pertaining to loading Samba shares at boot [05:53] I haven't come up with a way to do it using guest access myself [05:53] everything requires passwords [05:53] howdy fatejudger :) [05:53] has anyone had any more luck than I have? [05:53] kkathman: hey [05:54] fatejudger: you have to mostly just set those up in the fstab, and of course create a mount point [05:54] I did [05:54] I can make it work by setting up a samba username and password [05:54] and supplying some sort of credentials [05:54] right [05:54] but it won't works as a guest [05:54] *work [05:55] it really shouldnt need to [05:55] during boot at least [05:55] it SHOULD [05:55] there should be some way of doing it [05:55] i mean you dont need the "guest" [05:55] johnny3d: does it have other Linux drivers? [05:55] kkathman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently [05:55] if you use mount -a, it works [05:56] but it's never successful loading them at boot [05:56] fatejudger: you just want to mount a samba share in fstab ? [05:56] yeah [05:56] right thats what I do manually [05:56] with GUEST access [05:56] crimsun, breezy? It had different default drivers, yes. [05:56] but I have never needed the GUEST access [05:56] no passwords [05:56] make sure smbfs is install and use a line like this in your fstab , one sec [05:56] well most Windows shares are like that [05:56] ahh guest? no way [05:56] johnny3d: which default sound drivers were used? [05:56] I set the credentials, etc and set the settings in the smb.ini [05:56] crimsun, alsa, oss [05:57] smb.ini is for local shares not ones you connect to [05:57] see, it's stupid that it can't do that [05:57] no its insecure that you cant do that ;) [05:57] Samba attempts to provide a means to access netbios shares [05:57] it should do it in a way that's standard [05:58] johnny3d: I mean the actual alsa driver, like snd_intel8x0 or snd_hda_intel, etc. [05:58] crimsun, that I don't know [05:58] if you are trying to access a linux directory from windows, you have to set up the credentials and the smb.ini [05:58] Make sure there is a link to the kernel source from the modules directory. /lib/modules/VERSION/build should be a link to the kernel source [05:58] fatejudger: use soemthing like this in fstab with smbfs installed ( //bob/d /mnt/bob smbfs user,uid=brandon,gid=admin,rw,username=brandon,password= 0 0 ) [05:58] When I try to add the link it says file not found. [05:59] if you are going the other way, then you need only set the directory/folder on the Windows box to share and give it a share name [06:00] imbrandon: I've done it that way before, but I just can't understand why you need to supply credentials like that [06:00] that alone seems like the security risk [06:00] not the guest access === maxtor [n=maxtor@200.79.227.118] has joined #kubuntu [06:00] hi... [06:00] not if you have your network setup right and perms right on your boxes ;) === mrfishhat [n=mrfishha@adsl-69-224-0-117.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:01] I'm just surprised no one has thought of this [06:01] it has been thought of, its insecure [06:01] somebody knows how to put path and classpath for java in ubuntu? [06:01] crimsun, am I screwed? [06:01] how is that insecure? [06:01] johnny3d: ok, I have to head home from work now, but I'll look later and see if I can find some information. In the meantime, please file a bug on Malone against linux-source-2.6.15 and attach the information I've asked of you. (Be sure to attach, not comment inline.) [06:02] insecure is putting your credentials in plaintext in your samba config file [06:02] crimsun, [06:02] ok [06:02] thats not in the samba config , its in fstab [06:02] still [06:02] and if you think about it you setup accounts on the windows box for just that access [06:02] you don't need root permissions to view it [06:03] but you need access to my linux box, whereas if you have a windows guest account setup i could mount your windows drive orver the network [06:03] link, crimsun ? [06:03] and, thankyou very mcuh for your help [06:03] !bugs [06:03] imbrandon: of course [06:04] imbrandon: but how would someone go about connecting to my network? [06:04] johnny3d: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug [06:04] depends o the setup, but its inharently insecure, thus the answer to your question [06:04] thankyou crimsun [06:04] i dont have time to argure about it here, i was just trying to give you your anwser [06:05] there are plenty of ways to make a computer insecure, including a Linux box [06:05] yes there are, but why do it intentionaly === imbrandon ends convo [06:05] if you're smart enough to use Linux, you're smart enough to make choices [06:05] end users should be allowed to decide what THEY feel is an acceptable level of security [06:06] i'm sure that used to be more true than it is now [06:06] khaije: I wouldn't doubt that statement [06:06] fatejudger: thats the great thing about oss, submit a patch to samba then ;) [06:06] there are more n00bs than ever now [06:06] imbrandon: it probably wouldn't be accepted [06:07] imbrandon: just for the reasons you previously stated [06:07] thats exactly my point, thus i was trying to help you not get you on some self rightious kick [06:07] thats the drawback of courting the masses, but the beautiful desktop i'm using now is a benefit === khaije plugs kde 3.5 [06:08] ;) === imbrandon lubs his kde 3.5.2 [06:10] to get onto a new subject ;) khaije: check this kde XPish desktop ( to windows ish for most "hardcore" linux users although i dont know exactly what that means since i've been using linux only for years ;) ) http://imbrandon.sytes.net/snapshot1.png === Apage43 [i=apage43@69.29.166.184] has left #kubuntu [] [06:11] hehe.. if the icons were a little smaller it would be pretty close :) [06:11] ;) [06:12] I can't stand Windows Glass [06:13] I guess I'm just a huge fan of plastik [06:13] ;) [06:13] imbrandon: the clone has surpassed the master haha! [06:14] funny thing is it CAN run on my 333mhz with 32mb ram too lol ( this box isnt but i have one in the basement that is ;) [06:14] no way [06:14] Kubuntu can barely run on my laptop [06:14] do that with xp media center ( the theme that i based that on ) [06:14] and that's 2.4 ghz celeron [06:14] with six hundred and something mb of RAM [06:15] 640 [06:15] fatejudger: i have it running smooth on a 333 with 32mb ram, and this is a 2.8 ghz with 1.2gb ram and it flies [06:15] exec free [06:15] heh, the latter is about the same specs as I have on this machine [06:15] and yeah, it does work amazingly well === khaije blushes: oops! === shachaf [n=Shachaf@c66-235-46-149.sea2.cablespeed.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:15] but my laptop takes forever to boot [06:15] and KWord is really laggy for some reason [06:15] which makes me sad, because I love KOffice [06:16] input to screen is about 1 second off [06:16] hmm [06:16] in the worst case === laszlok [n=laszlo@h209-135-109-101.gtcust.grouptelecom.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:16] I have the Dapper Alpha on it though [06:16] so I may try reinstalling === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@3e44a4b6.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] i have a p3 1ghz, w/ 256mb ram, and it runs v well === raf [n=raf@201.145.224.58] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] fatejudger: jsut apt-get dist-upgrade ;) [06:18] I did [06:18] I do it all the time [06:18] infact from my apache logs someone here needs to do an apt-get dist-upgrade ;) "Kubuntu 6.04 Dapper" [06:19] fatejudger: you may also want to very that dma is activated for the harddisk [06:19] fatejudger: then you are at the latest , its not alpa anymore [06:19] *verify [06:19] khaije: was that off during the Alpha? [06:19] its off default always [06:20] i don't specificaly know, but if the memory size is an issue it will need quick swap space [06:20] like I said, it has 640 mb of RAM [06:20] it barely uses 400 === Desh [n=fries@adsl-3-71-191.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:21] fatejudger: oooh! i read that wrong the first time [06:21] aptitude isn't perfect, sometimes config files are left on machine from alpha versions [06:21] a reinstall might do the trick === grimse [n=grimse@F2230.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu === _steven [n=steven@cpe-204-95-23-68.sanbrunocable.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:28] <_steven> hey can anyone give me some quick help with xorg.conf [06:28] <_steven> i want to make sure im using the highest possible bit depth [06:28] <_steven> but there are at least 4 different bit depths in my xorg.conf [06:29] <_steven> how do i know which ones to change? [06:35] hello [06:35] hello! can anyone help me with the sound in Kubuntu? === Desh [n=fries@adsl-3-71-191.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:36] How do I add wlan0 to my iwconfig list? [06:37] I just installed ndiswrapper and the correct driver for my WLAN card, but wlan0 is not part of iwconfig? === lunitik [n=lunitik@ip68-231-11-250.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:37] a couple questions: what does katapult do? and what is the reccomended setup for sound (currently using gstreamer -> alsasink) [06:38] khaije: katapult simply launches applications... (nifty naming imo :P) [06:39] khaije: as for sound... depends on needs... gstreamer is fine... but xine supports more codecs (indirectly) [06:39] lunitik: let me put it this way, what is differnet now that i have katapult [06:40] khaije: not much really... you try running katapult as a stand alone application? [06:40] lunitik: w/ regards to sound, do you know which is more dependable? [06:41] khaije: define 'dependable' === khaije chuckles: lunitik, i wouldn't even know where to begin, i view tools from a "what do they do" perspective [06:41] khaije: you probably want xine w/ w32codecs then :P [06:42] (uhhh... unless you meant in respect to katapult...) [06:42] o that last comment was directed toward your katapult question [06:42] :-) ya [06:43] khaije: haha... 'katapult'... I don't think much damage can be done by just clicking around :) === lunitik thinks thats the frontend? === lunitik wonders if he is seeing too much into Mark talking about hiring... and Aaron saying so much positive things about Kubuntu wrt the LinuxTag meetings? === unreal [n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal] has joined #kubuntu [06:45] ? [06:46] sorry you lost me :-) [06:47] khaije: just rambling, somewhat === Interpol [n=fries@adsl-3-71-191.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:48] Why would wlan0 not show up on my iwconfig list? [06:49] can anyone help me with the sound in Kubuntu? === lunitik also wonders whether Mepis and Kubuntu will be working together at all... seems pointless to have 2 projects working on KDE for Ubuntu... seems logical to work together, at least behind the scenes? [06:49] raf: depends whats wrong [06:49] I can hear anything [06:49] I can't [06:49] raf: card? you have onboard and a seperate card? [06:49] onboard === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu [06:49] raf: and type of card? [06:49] Intel 810 chipset [06:50] raf: lsmod | grep snd_intel8x0 [06:50] raf: is it loaded? === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [06:50] 0000:01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 4310 [06:50] raf: uhh... thats lspci :/ === hastesaver [n=hastesav@59.92.128.28] has joined #kubuntu [06:51] raf: not what I said [06:51] sorry [06:51] it isn't loaded [06:51] raf: well..... load it ;) [06:51] Why would wlan0 not show up on my iwconfig list? [06:51] sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 [06:52] raf: also... go ahead and throw that into /etc/modules ... that way you get to be lazy and not do that all the time :| [06:52] ?? [06:52] lunitik: do you happen to know anything about the direction of kde sound now that arts is deprecated? [06:52] khaije: phanon [06:52] lunitik > ok, I loaded the module, It appears in lsmod [06:52] raf: k... play somethign? [06:52] something [06:53] lunitik > i'm going to view /etc/modules [06:53] hmmm.... never heard of it... i'll check it out. thanks very much :-) [06:53] khaije: http://phonon.kde.org/ [06:54] I knew I spelled it wrong :( [06:54] Interpol: the card is supported and its module is loaded? === khaije tips his hat to lunitik === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@201.11.142.3] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu is now known as kubuntu_Brazil [06:57] Interpol: I'll take your lack of response as a no? lol === bewire [n=bewire@cm-80.111.176.175.chello.no] has joined #kubuntu [06:59] !cough [06:59] I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lunitik [06:59] !botslap [06:59] What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lunitik [06:59] :( [06:59] no fun [06:59] !lart [06:59] !lart me [06:59] :( [07:00] !lart me typing too much? === lunitik wonders off crying === detlef [n=detlef@i577A1DF7.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] !lart lunitik [07:01] imbrandon: it pretends to know what you mean (/msg from bot) ... but yeah... nothing :( [07:02] lol [07:02] Hello, where should I discuss problems with sound ? (I have a amd 64, system sound ok, but no sound in kscd, totem, tvtime or other players ...) [07:03] bewire: depends... what distro... OS... etc? if Kubuntu then here else not here === kubuntu_Brazil [n=ubuntu@201.11.142.3] has joined #kubuntu === mustard5 [n=mustard5@147.a.001.sop.iprimus.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [07:03] Installed kubuntu after ubuntu [07:03] !sound [07:04] Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary [07:04] Hobbsee: cheater [07:04] :P [07:04] lunitik: :P - what's the bot there for, if not to call up factoids...i dunno how kubuntu-centric they are though, or how old... [07:05] lunitik > no, i can't hear anything :'( === waldemar5717 [n=waldemar@chello084010248112.chello.pl] has joined #kubuntu [07:05] Hobbsee: sound issues aren't Kubuntu centric :P [07:05] raf: see what the bot said [07:06] hihihi i don't what "the bot" is $ [07:06] I don't know what it is === lunitik wonders why KUbuntu still doesn't have something like system-config-sound of Fedora/Redhat :( [07:06] Set up can't be THAT different [07:06] raf, ubotu is the bot..see his message above [07:07] lunitik: for the vast majority of users, udev's hardware activation handles that [07:07] :D [07:07] crimsun: for the vast majority yes.... but sound has been an issue since the first preview of Ubuntu :( [07:08] lunitik: which bug reports, specifically? [07:08] crimsun: more than a year of IRC :P [07:08] oh :O [07:08] ok, I'm gonig to read "the bot" [07:08] lunitik: that doesn't really help me, since I'm pretty much the sole triager of said bugs. [07:08] crimsun: used to come up like 10 times a day === prixeh [n=prixeh@0x535c17bb.vjnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [07:08] just another question: If lspci shows "Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International" it means that is my sound card? [07:09] nice [07:09] raf: yes, and there are no sound drivers for your card. [07:09] crimsun: mostly related to intel8x0 actually... [07:09] sound is a difficult thing to troubleshoot though, as its not always operating system related, and sometimes more user related [07:09] raf: unless of course you can convince them to release the specs, in which case we can write drivers. [07:09] raf: there are drivers for the modem portion iirc, but otherwise you're out of luck [07:09] crimsun: search launchpad (I think thats the prefered bug database?) for bugs related to that module... I'm sure you'll find lots... [07:10] :'( [07:10] lunitik: see what mustard5 typed. === kubuntutaotao [n=ttkubunt@221.198.129.136] has joined #kubuntu [07:10] lunitik: and yes, I'm well aware of the state of sound in *buntu. I'm the one pushing patches to fix them. [07:10] crimsun: thats good to hear :-D [07:11] well, I can live without sound [07:11] your work is much appreciated, crimsun :) === lunitik rarely had sound issues... and they never persisted through re-installs... so it can't be easy to debug such things... [07:12] crimsun: paid developer now, btw? :P [07:12] I don't want windows anymore! windows recognizes my sound card but it have thousands of virus :D [07:12] crimsun: or just kinda sucked in :P [07:12] lunitik: no. === rafa [n=rafa@201-1-12-230.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu [07:13] (this is purely volunteer work) [07:13] crimsun: Jonathon is currently only paid Kubuntu devel? [07:13] crimsun: thank you for your work though :) === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:13] I don't know the state of which are contracted, nor does it matter to me, since bugs are nondiscriminatory. [07:13] crimsun: its strange seeing you in a channel without calc though... haha [07:14] calc's probably in debian-kde and/or xandros [07:14] I'd just love to know how you gained all your knowledge in sound specific devices , crimsun, as I could certainly do with some knowledge on sound troubleshooting [07:14] hehe [07:14] crimsun: ahh... last I spoke to him he mentioned he might be getting work with Xandros [07:14] crimsun: cool [07:14] I end up floundering around not knowing which way to go with troubleshooting [07:15] mustard5: most of it is reading and writing source, wikis, breaking things, etc. [07:15] crimsun, k..well I can work on the breaking things part pretty easy :) === lunitik thinks breaking things is fun [07:15] aye, 'tis [07:16] crimsun: also most frustrating when they don't go back together... [07:16] that's the best part, actually. You just acquire replacements. [07:17] crimsun: true... === lunitik needs to go to bed... 5am wake up, and its almost 10:30 [07:17] grrr [07:18] stupid job :| [07:18] yeah, I have something like four hours to sleep, but there are far too many bugs [07:19] crimsun: don't kill yourself! [07:19] crimsun: my body couldn't handle that little sleep :( [07:20] I sleeping flows [07:20] crimsun: great thing about bugs... if ya don't fix them... they're there tomorrow... [07:20] wait... thats probably not a good thing [07:21] lunitik: yeah, that tends to weigh toward the negative aspect ;) [07:21] crimsun: haha :P [07:22] crimsun: seriously though... have to pay the bills... if you over do it... it'll stop being fun... [07:22] crimsun: no one wants to contribute to something thats no longer fun to them! [07:23] crimsun: your work will be appreciated just the same even if you don't have huge bags under your eyes :P [07:23] on that note... good night [07:24] 'night lunitik === _root [n=root@adsl-3-71-191.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === stargater [n=stargate@p508ACF21.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:26] moin [07:26] moins === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #kubuntu [07:35] greetings crimsun :) [07:35] hi kkathman === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu === Search4Lancer [n=redphoen@c-68-80-68-232.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _JP [n=jpn@ext123.almare.com] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [n=nicolas@ron34-1-82-225-191-130.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mattchewie [n=Mattchew@adsl-69-212-35-63.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === edulix [n=edulix@87.218.67.63] has joined #kubuntu === edward [i=edward@4angle.com] has joined #kubuntu === _human_blip_ [n=mike@220.157.65.236] has joined #kubuntu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu === Desh [n=fries@adsl-3-71-191.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === GeoKM [n=keith@ppp46-17.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === bleaked [n=bleaked@CPE-70-94-13-227.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:20] Before a nasty shutdown, my CDs and USB drives would automatically appear on the desktop when plugged in. Now, if I put a CD in I have to go to media and click on the CD for it to mount. USB drives don;t appear at all. === Search4Lancer [n=redphoen@c-68-80-68-232.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:20] Is there a way to make it work like it used to? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu === margouyab [n=yanawill@44.94.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === cfraz89 [n=christop@44.191.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === aftertaf [n=aftertaf@d213-103-47-38.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:35] hi all :) === andre^off is now known as andred === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FEBE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === johan_ [n=johan@dsl52-216-100.fastxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu === _steven [n=steven@ppp43-121.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === Steven_M [i=AthIRC@210-246-63-221.paradise.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [08:40] >:D< daper is good :P === _steven [n=steven@ppp43-121.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:40] <_steven> !easysource [08:40] For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic [08:40] dapper :o [08:41] Hi. [08:42] hi. === munzir_ [n=munzir@212.138.78.111] has joined #kubuntu [08:43] <_steven> hey, can somne please give me the line to enter into terminal to edit the sources.list? === johan_ [n=johan@dsl52-216-100.fastxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu [08:44] _steven, have you tried finding the file, and then right click, actions, edit as root? [08:44] vim /etc/apt/sources.list [08:44] <_steven> ummm, ill try [08:45] Or that. :) [08:45] hehe [08:45] hey aftertaf! LTNS! [08:45] I still suck at command line. [08:45] Hobbsee: LTNC [08:45] long time no click === Desh [n=fries@adsl-3-71-191.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === hastesaver [n=hastesav@59.92.128.28] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:46] how do I get all the nifty details in KTorrent that I had before when I started downloading this file? [08:47] I had bar graphs and such, and now I don't [08:48] Hobbsee: no irc at new job..... so. [08:48] :( ouch === Hobbsee tries to find a better driver [08:48] well. maybe i could get around it..... [08:48] hehe [08:48] but now i'm on shifts... [08:48] :/ [08:49] since this week.... once afternoon, once morning. [08:49] ouch [08:49] good side is have time for me.... bad thing is don't see much of good lady and children. [08:49] true [08:50] I'm trying to set up a dialup connection through a pcmcia card on my new install of dapper flight 6. There isn't a /dev/modem. I assume this is usually a link to the modem device. If I were to create a link myself, which device should it point to? [08:50] Search4Lancer: has the config changed? [08:50] Also, how do you check what a link points to? [08:51] steve I am using pcmcia as well but networking only works when i pull out the pcmcia card and replace it [08:51] <_steven> how do i install wine? [08:51] Steven_M:try /dev/ttyS0 [08:51] !wine [08:51] Steven_M: in the console, type ls -lh [08:51] !tell _steven about wine [08:51] <_steven> !wine [08:51] Steven_M: is it an internal pci modem? [08:52] it's a pcmcia card modem in a notebook [08:52] best wine link i've found : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=wine+setup === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:52] I already tried /dev/ttyS0 and got a I/O error [08:53] hi aftertaf! [08:53] oh [08:53] hi bimberi :] [08:53] sorry, im not real sure about pcmcia cards, ive never used one [08:54] aftertaf: there are less options in the config window [08:54] aftertaf: just read the backscroll - good to see you back :) [08:54] hehe thx :) [08:54] good to see names i recognise too :) [08:56] dapper is looking good anyway. [08:56] nevermind, figured it out, had to load plugins... [08:58] I have pcmcia as well networking is working after replacing the pcmcia card still modem isn't working either i am trying to find out what is wrong now === brooks [n=brooks@cdm-208-180-242-35.bcst.cox-internet.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:01] hi i can't install realplayer? any help? === noaXess_kubuntu [n=noaXess_@adsl-du-217-11-45-147.cybernet.ch] has joined #kubuntu [09:02] <_steven> is there a way to get wine thru adept [09:02] Kadran: realplayer is a windows application === kkathman is now known as kkathman-zzzz [09:02] _steven: yes, but dunno if it works well. [09:03] <_steven> ok, how? === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === kasina [n=kasina@196.200.37.114] has joined #kubuntu [09:04] _steven: apt-get install wine ;) [09:04] no, dont get that version... [09:04] see !wine [09:04] that version is around 10 months old, IIRC [09:06] <_steven> i dont care, the other way is too hard [09:06] _steven: its not hard, just long..... but it works (whereas other way doesnt) [09:07] Search4Lancer: realplayer is also a linux application ;) [09:07] <_steven> ok, im on the realVNC to download it for kubuntu 5.10, do i download the GZipped Tarfile or the .rpm? [09:08] tar gz [09:08] _steven: no .deb anywhere? cant you apt-get it, [09:08] <_steven> how [09:08] pffffff........... [09:08] _steven: sudo apt-get install realvnc? [09:09] newbie :p ok type man apt-get :D [09:09] <_steven> ill try [09:09] _Steven sudo apt-get install xvncviewer [09:09] <_steven> cos i need to controll kubuntu from xp pro [09:10] _Steven sudo apt-get install tightvncserver [09:10] <_steven> ok [09:11] <_steven> and do i need to download tight vnc viewer 4 windows, or can i just use the realvnc viewer? === kosh2 [n=kosh@aesaeion.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:11] any will work: same protocol [09:12] open port 5900 in xp [09:12] <_steven> ok [09:12] iirc [09:12] <_steven> have done, i use vnc to connect to my friends compter === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@124.106.221.56] has joined #kubuntu === kosh2 is now known as kosh [09:12] any vnc viewr will work [09:13] <_steven> ok [09:13] <_steven> thats good === JakubS [n=qba@mcast-62-eit.man.poznan.pl] has joined #kubuntu === _mdp [i=marc@c-69-180-141-199.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === stargater [n=stargate@p508ACF21.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:17] re === Kadran [n=mohammed@196.218.78.231] has joined #kubuntu [09:17] imbrandon: I did that test with mysql 5.1 and inserted Feb 31 2006 and while it does not do the same thing as the page I linked it is very close, with no warnings or errors it inserts 00-00-0000 [09:18] imbrandon: I also tried it in postgres 8.1 and it refused to do the insert saying the date did not exist === zm0 [n=zmo1138@62.58.40.86] has joined #kubuntu === lwells [n=Larry@ip68-5-250-101.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:19] <_steven> how do i get the internal ip address for this computer [09:19] ifconfig [09:20] <_steven> in konsole? [09:20] yep [09:20] hey [09:20] anyone know how to download aim on linux? [09:21] anybody here? [09:21] aim or gaim? === OdyX is now known as OdyXydO [09:21] whats gaim? [09:22] aim [09:22] for instant messaging [09:22] ? [09:22] use gaim. it does the same; but differently [09:22] k [09:22] linuxly [09:22] how do i get gaim [09:22] sudo apt-get install gaim [09:22] sudo apt-get install gaim [09:23] huh [09:23] back later all [09:23] gaim has ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo messenger, Jabber etc [09:23] fo real [09:23] how do i get it [09:23] <_steven> how do i run the vnc server, i have download vnc-common [09:23] sudo apt-get install gaim [09:23] <_steven> thru adept [09:23] lwells: open a shell window and then type: sudo apt-get install gaim [09:23] i seriously dont know how to use this linux [09:24] how do i open a shell [09:24] best use adept [09:24] alt-f2 konsole is a simple way [09:24] go to add/remove programs in the menu [09:24] you can also use adept if you want === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Marcos [i=Marcos@host29.200-117-46.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu === Kadran [n=mohammed@196.218.78.231] has joined #kubuntu [09:25] hi [09:26] <_steven> how do i run vnc-common? === GeoKM [n=keith@ppp46-17.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:28] to open a shell i gotta run command? [09:28] lwells: I think there should be a shortcut for that in the K-menu [09:28] the default kde has a shortcut for it, however kubuntu made modifications and removed the default shortcut [09:29] alt+spacebar, then write konsole === macd [n=bashscri@adsl-156-66-166.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:30] I prefer alt-f2, it runs vastly faster [09:30] katapult may look nicer but it is also a lot slower to startup and to complete [09:30] yes, it's true === GeoKM [n=keith@ppp46-17.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:31] i have a shortcut in the bar [09:32] hey, i have problems installing eagle-usb drivers [09:32] if I am just running one monitor katapult seems fairly fast but with 4 it sure seems to run slower, that is the one problem with quad monitor output it places a much higher load on things === sheldonc [n=sheldon@208-98-198-49.cable.dynamic.sunwave.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:33] okay i ran command [09:33] and i typed sudo apt-get install gaim [09:33] and nothing happened [09:33] <_steven> is there away to make a vnc server run at startup? [09:34] you did alt-f2 konsole and then why konsole opened you typed that command in there? [09:34] yeah [09:35] that seems strange for it to say nothing at all [09:35] at worst it should say it is already installed [09:35] reallly [09:35] damn [09:36] or give you an error message [09:36] ohhh nm [09:36] my stepdad put a password to this stupid comp [09:36] i think thats why === JRGC [n=JG@F565d.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:37] if he put a password on the computer he probably means for you not to be able to install and remove software, that woudl be the point :) [09:37] i knoww [09:37] didnt know that [09:38] hehe [09:38] damnit i want aim or somethin [09:39] you can use kopete [09:39] whats kopete [09:39] aim for linux ;) [09:39] Rubish [09:39] kopete rocks === khaije1 [n=callisto@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:39] it's a program like gaim [09:39] okayy how do i get on it [09:39] xcept gaim is better :-( [09:40] alt+enter [09:40] type kop [09:40] Press enter [09:40] type kopete in a console [09:40] gaim == gtk your ina kde chan bud ;) [09:40] I less than three katapult [09:40] http://kopete.kde.org/ [09:40] imbrandon_: I don't care [09:40] Gaim is user friendly [09:41] kopete is pretty [09:41] so is kopete ;) [09:41] yes, but he can't install packages [09:41] imbrandon_: I've never found it to do things that I liked === phisrow [n=phisrow@adsl-68-72-108-25.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:42] Worse as a dammnation for a KDE app i couldn't config it to do what I want [09:42] DaSkreech: what things specifically? [09:42] That and it crashes on me about once every three hours === dumbkiwi [n=matt@203-114-186-21.bitstream.fx.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [09:42] Tab management, Tab traversals, Messaging people [09:43] logging granularity, seperation of messages vs chats [09:43] separation I'm sorry I don't want to be inaccurate in my rants :) [09:44] I'm willing to put up with it since it's basically a few versions old but it's really the fly in my kubuntu soup [09:44] well personaly i hate tabs and it never crashes for me ;) [09:44] That plus some minor quibbles about adept :) and apparently the Kat has left the bag and gone but I'm more than happy to chill waiting for KDe4 === Pupeno [n=Pupeno@ATuileries-153-1-22-18.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [09:46] holy crap are you like IMing the entire world every day? myself i cant stand to be talking to moer than 5 people at once on IM... thats why i went back to idling on irc [09:46] imbrandon_: Cool for you most people who seem to love kopete just pick it up and use it :-( === nrdb [n=neil@202.125.26.218] has joined #kubuntu [09:46] sheldonc: actually I am === Kadran [n=mohammed@196.218.78.231] has joined #kubuntu [09:47] I have gnomemetting installed but it can't seem to handle the sound can anyone help? [09:48] DaSkreech: i'd suggest updating your kopete and trying it again. also, if you're trying to coordinate anything with anybody, IM sucks :) [09:48] sheldonc: Which is probably how I notice things like I cannot IM someone unless I add them to my list which is insanely aggravating [09:48] I just use konversation, the im programs I got tired of not long after icq first started [09:49] irc was arround LONG before im apps ;) [09:49] i liked icq and msn, but you soon find out that you hate being constantly interrupted about the same thing - irc makes more sense, everybody and their dog can get their hands on an irc client, and there isnt duplication [09:50] brb gonna restart x [09:51] linux is complicated [09:51] the im programs just are too annoying pretty much [09:52] lwells: every os is complicated at least if you expect it to work [09:52] Yeah but much worse when you have to fight with them to do anything [09:52] kosh: Wise man [09:52] I have had to fight with windows and even macs a lot to get stuff done [09:53] linux is really not any differnt, just different fights [09:53] try doing serious db development on a windows box and then see how easy things are :) [09:53] haha === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu [09:54] anyways [09:54] gooodnite guys === Kadran [n=mohammed@196.218.78.231] has joined #kubuntu [09:55] gnight [09:56] anyhow thats the great thing about linux, choice , some like gaim some like kopete some like amsn etc etc etc [09:56] ;) [09:56] all have their ups and downs [09:56] and compare apt-get to installshield [09:56] man, i hate windows installers [09:57] hehe [09:57] compare apt-get to rpm based distros ( not counting red-carpet becouse its only the base os mostly ) === Vampis [n=niclas@dynamic-46-108.chl.chalmers.se] has joined #kubuntu [09:57] bout the same damm headache [09:58] after using fedora 3 for a while yum is a pain to use. [09:58] yea [09:58] so is yast on suse [09:58] apt is the way of life ;) [09:59] apt can make odd desicision from time to time but it generally gets it right. [10:00] hm, I only had problem once [10:01] it removed ALOT of programs when I ran a dist-upgrade === rdale [n=rdale@193.146.95.195] has joined #kubuntu === andred is now known as andre^off === rdale [n=rdale@193.146.95.195] has joined #kubuntu === rdale [n=rdale@193.146.95.195] has joined #kubuntu === josh [n=josh@dsl-220-235-102-121.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [10:07] !wine === nrdb [n=neil@202.125.26.218] has joined #kubuntu [10:08] !winetools [10:08] parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, josh === rdale [n=rdale@193.146.95.195] has joined #kubuntu [10:09] I am trying to setup gnomemeeting, I am haveing trouble with the sound it keeps saying it can't open the device, and to check permissions, but what permissions? === jesse [n=jesse@d594f0ed.ftth.concepts.nl] has joined #kubuntu === jesse [n=jesse@d594f0ed.ftth.concepts.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === lonewolff [i=lonewolf@adleman.lonewolff.info] has joined #kubuntu [10:14] Does anybody know how can I get the firmware for my Agfa Snapscan e20 ? I don't have the installation CD. === ryao [n=ryao@221.10.65.36] has joined #kubuntu [10:16] Hi, what's the corresponding command to httpd -S in kubuntu? [10:16] have you tried its manufactures website? [10:16] There is no httpd executable [10:17] ahh! i found it apache2 ;) === g8m [n=evil@cp747435-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu === barton [n=barton@c-67-177-77-37.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === barton is now known as tuxcicles === HymnToLife [n=fkraiem@dyn-213-36-154-217.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu === kuba [n=kuba@80.48.242.195] has joined #kubuntu === jaaroo_ [n=jaro@x53.mykey.cz] has joined #kubuntu [10:35] when ever i use adept to install or remove a program, it displays this message at the very end [10:35] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706977 [10:35] and it says that the programs are installed, even though there not === pradeepto [n=pradeept@59.182.20.103] has joined #kubuntu [10:36] dose any1 know how to fix this? === visik7 [n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu [10:37] anyone? [10:37] !adept [10:37] I guess adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto [10:37] !network [10:37] This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together. [10:38] !networking [10:38] check this for command line networking http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html [10:38] josh: what is your problem again? [10:38] Riddell: around? [10:38] hang on [10:40] josh: could you post your sources.list in pastebin ? [10:43] ok [10:44] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706984 [10:45] and my problem is that i get the following error at the end of installing and removing programs http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706984 [10:46] hmm same link here === jaaroo__ [n=jaro@x53.mykey.cz] has joined #kubuntu [10:47] you can try to replace the source urls, maybe the australian servers have problems or their repos are broken.. [10:47] grunt === zorgluuu [n=jerome@148.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:47] but that's just a guess because your sources.list looks ok for me [10:47] would be nice to have a look t the error ;) [10:47] q. in which package is the make utility, the stuff to compile programm [10:48] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706977 that's the error [10:48] hmm, never saw anything like this... === My8os [n=My8os@ppp125-49.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu [10:49] the au.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be okay [10:50] grunt grunt === OdyXydO is now known as OdyX [10:50] josh did you try it via sudo apt-get update from console? [10:51] umm, yeah [10:51] but ill do that again [10:51] no taker for the package containing make >< [10:51] zorgluuu: build-essential [10:51] !b-e [10:51] or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a sudo apt-get install build-essential. [10:52] its doing stuff now [10:52] hmm dah it was just make.deb [10:52] but it had an error at the end [10:52] zorgluuu: build-essential [10:52] hass everything [10:52] ill post it asap [10:52] imbrandon, nice thanks [10:52] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706992 === jorik [n=jorik@kotnet-148.kulnet.kuleuven.be] has joined #kubuntu [10:53] mhh differs slightly from the first one [10:53] josh> it seems one (at least) server you are using is down [10:53] !network [10:53] This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together. [10:54] re you running a 64 bit system ? [10:54] ok [10:55] i still have the same error when i use adept [10:57] and if somone could solve my problem thats posted here, that would be ausome [10:57] http://groups.google.com/group/absolute-linux-computing/browse_thread/thread/1d85162f1901df75 === _admin [n=admin@88.144.0.83] has joined #kubuntu === _admin [n=admin@88.144.0.83] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === arafat [n=arafat@Mb314.m.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu [11:00] anyone? === cc-dash [n=tom@i577AE775.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu [11:03] josh> if you just want to do console stuff, SSH should do the trick [11:03] ??? [11:03] no no no, i want full controll, vnc [11:04] maybe you'll have something on the wiki about it [11:04] !vnc [11:04] well, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session) [11:05] ok [11:05] and can i configure them to run at startup? === Dru [n=bahh@bscltd.vianw.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === Mazingaro [n=tetsuja@host182-230.pool877.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [11:06] because i cant have a monitor hooked up to the kubuntu computer [11:08] brb === aftertaf [n=aftertaf@d213-103-47-38.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #kubuntu === cc-dash [n=tom@i577AE775.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === josh [n=josh@dsl-220-235-102-121.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [11:14] is there a driver or somthing so i can read and write NTFS volumes [11:14] josh i havent followed your problem but just in case nx is much faster than vnc [11:15] nx? [11:15] josh> NTFS writing is very unsafe [11:15] I wouldn't use it if I were you [11:15] ok [11:15] what is nx? [11:15] !nx [11:15] aftertaf: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ [11:15] josh try to google nx client [11:17] and can i use nx to access kubunt from xp? [11:17] dunno :) === FaTBaT [n=FaTBaT@87.252.230.24] has joined #kubuntu [11:17] grunt [11:18] what is the command line for updating the sources.list again [11:19] after you make changes to it? [11:19] gtg === kuba [n=kuba@80.48.242.195] has joined #kubuntu === DrNickRiviera [n=riviera@81-178-218-91.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu === FaTBaT [n=FaTBaT@87.252.230.24] has joined #kubuntu === Vampis_ [n=niclas@dynamic-46-38.chl.chalmers.se] has joined #kubuntu [11:29] having nightmares trying to install dapper [11:29] I have a TVcard and it was recognised as a soundcard 0 and my soundcard is soundcard 1 so I can't here anything, except with the tv. === josh [n=josh@dsl-220-235-102-121.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [11:30] Where can I cange the alsa configuration on Ubuntu? [11:30] Where can I change the alsa configuration on KUbuntu? [11:31] josh: sudo apt-get update [11:31] i dont think kubuntu comes with an alsa tool [11:33] I think wiki knows something [11:33] you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base === RomanK [n=roman@p54A2617D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === asanchez [n=asanchez@205.Red-81-44-161.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === asanchez [n=asanchez@205.Red-81-44-161.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:34] thanx === Vampis__ [n=niclas@dynamic-46-108.chl.chalmers.se] has joined #kubuntu [11:36] when ever i install or remove programs in adept, get the following error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706977 [11:36] heres my sources.list http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706984 [11:37] josh > maybe your sources.list is bad somewhere but I can't figure out whre [11:37] maybe try another one and see if it works [11:37] and heres what happens when i go sudo apt-get update http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/707018 [11:37] here's mine : http://fkraiem.no-ip.org/stuff/sources.list [11:37] How can I configure alsa from the console in Kubuntu? [11:37] k === Vampis__ is now known as Vampis [11:39] oh yeah, another thing [11:39] try to sudo apt-get update with an empty sources.list before putting a new one [11:39] ok === shogouki [n=nicolas@ron34-1-82-225-191-130.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu [] [11:40] what would that do? === kasina [n=kasina@196.200.37.114] has joined #kubuntu === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:41] i've updated to kernel 2.6.15-22 (64bit amd-version) and i only got trouble: openoffice hangs up etc. - is this a known problem or am i the only one, who has trouble with this. [11:41] i've booted the previos kernel and everything works ... :-/ [11:41] josh> that will basically clear your cache from all the stuff you've downloaded like package indexes and such [11:41] ok [11:41] +u [11:41] so it won't interfere with the download of new ones [11:45] can anyone recommend a good photo gallery application? [11:45] wat is the command prompt for editing the sources.list in vim [11:45] konsole [11:46] josh> just sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list [11:46] thanx === khaije|away [n=callisto@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p508009AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === Aji-Dahaka [n=kjelderg@cerberus.cs.und.edu] has left #kubuntu [] [11:50] i have pressed esc in vim, how do i make it so i can make changes? === heady [n=heady@158.195.96.4] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@hopfen.RZ.Uni-Augsburg.DE] has joined #kubuntu [11:53] anyone? [11:53] i have pressed esc in vim, how do i make it so i can make changes? [11:53] UH ? === PascalFr [n=PascalFr@c5850-a4-2-62-147-38-140.dial.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === mons0on is now known as m0ns00n [11:54] i have pressed esc in vim (text editor in konsole), what do i type in so i can make changes? [11:54] i [11:55] i [11:55] k, thanx [11:55] when you are done, press escape, then wq to save [11:55] np === fjellrev1 [n=fjellrev@193.90.57.44] has joined #kubuntu === bsm [n=rob@p54839431.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] that error still comes up, even with your sources.list === _JP [n=jpn@ext123.almare.com] has joined #kubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu === andre^off is now known as andred === heady [n=heady@158.195.97.2] has joined #kubuntu === nico8481 [n=none@ip-62-235-55-107.dial.scarlet.be] has joined #kubuntu === yanis_ [n=yanis@88.218.24.182] has joined #kubuntu === _david [n=david@cor8-ppp829.hay.dsl.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === PascalFR_ [n=PascalFr@c5850-a4-2-62-147-36-77.dial.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === rtg_ [n=rtg@24-247-92-121.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.236] has joined #kubuntu [12:14] <_david> where can I go to discuss nvidia and breezy problems === Huahua [n=hua_@222.50.183.114] has joined #kubuntu === joy [n=joy@202.67.8.28] has joined #kubuntu === Cheapie [n=Adm@londonderry-cuda1-68-234-71-44.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:20] need help [12:21] i try install a program and it won't work, but when i tried from root, it's work [12:22] can i change that program so i can run not from root? [12:22] please help === thorsten_ [n=thorsten@dslc-082-082-175-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] <_david> joy, what is the program? [12:26] <_david> Joy, I tried to get xsane to work and found that ubuntu has prevented the use of suid, other wise you could have set the suid bit on the program === DeBert [n=bert@82-197-200-123.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #kubuntu === kuba is now known as psychoaktiff === BazziR [n=Bastian@p50800D90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === OutoLumo [n=tuomas@stargazer-dsl.utu.fi] has joined #kubuntu === bsm [n=rob@p54839431.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["If] [12:42] vmare [12:43] vmware david [12:44] joy: i use vmware as a normal user, maybe i can help [12:45] can u help me [12:45] pleasee [12:46] i can not run from normal user only from rot [12:46] root [12:46] joy: start vmware from a terminal and tell me what error(s) do you get [12:47] Mware Workstation Error: [12:47] VMware Workstation unrecoverable error: (vmui) [12:47] Unable to initialize host: Cannot open file "/home/joy/.vmware/preferences": Permission denied. [12:48] joy: ok type sudo chown joy:joy /home/joy/.vmware -R [12:49] it's work! [12:49] :) [12:49] thank you z.. 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[01:27] yeah [01:27] any idea where i might get them? [01:27] make sure you have amarok-engines [01:27] amarok-arts has been removed [01:29] the problem is when do apt-get install amarok-engines it complains that i don't have amarok 1.3.9 installed [01:30] DrNick: just install amarok-xine (presuming you have the 1.4 repos in your sources.list [01:30] i don't think i do [01:30] only just started using kubuntu and apt [01:30] will see whether i can find something on google [01:30] deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta3 dapper main [01:31] add that to your sources [01:32] how do i do that? [01:32] in adept, go to manage repositories [01:32] or you can add the line directly to /etc/apt/sources.list [01:33] have done it in adept === fredo [n=fredo@169-54.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] ok [01:33] then update your sources, and it should be ok === visik7 [n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu [01:36] thanks for your help cfraz89 [01:36] np === richips [n=richi@57.Red-88-3-167.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:44] amarok continues to claim that no engines are installed :( [01:45] hmmm [01:45] so you got new amarok, and amarok engines? [01:45] yeah [01:45] try deleting your amarok settings [01:45] even tried installing gstreamer [01:45] probably wont help though [01:46] you mean press the default button in config or delete files from the amarok directory in /home? === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === Dru [n=bahh@bscltd.vianw.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === Dru [n=bahh@bscltd.vianw.co.uk] has left #kubuntu [] [01:47] delete /home/you/.kde/share/apps/amarok, === Dru [n=bahh@bscltd.vianw.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [01:47] delete /home/you/.kde/share/config/amarokrc [01:49] any one know how to create an IRC channel? [01:49] siefkencp: join to it [01:50] siefkencp: like /j #newchannel will create #newchannel if it doesn't exist already [01:52] cool ty [01:52] F##k my connection died & was almost complete on my dl of Dapper install cd :( [01:52] someone with Dapper and a burner to confirm bug 31768? [01:53] Dru> use a download manager next time ;) [01:55] OdyX: oh? === freeflying is away: === dave [n=dave@static-10.51.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:55] Tm_T: Hi.. === OdyX is going through 3000 unconfirmed bugs [01:56] hello :) === dave is now known as dave_oz [01:57] crappy works machine win 98se [01:59] deleting the amarok config file hasn't solved the problem either [02:01] is there a DVD ripper like DVDSHRINK available in ubuntu? [02:05] wine+dvdshrink [02:05] no performance loss [02:05] or dvd5to9 [02:05] dave_oz: dvdrip [02:06] dave_oz: thoggen for Ogg/Theora/Vorbis [02:06] dvdrip doesn't do what dvdshrink does === ninHer [n=ninHer@36.Red-88-9-92.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] i tried dvdrip - couldn't get it to work - difficult to figure out how to use. [02:06] hi all === Terminus [n=justin@210.213.131.13] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] dave_oz: dvd5to9 [02:07] i will try dvde5to9 [02:07] is it as good as dvdshrink? === heady [n=heady@158.195.96.4] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] never used === aolbrich [n=aolbrich@dslb-084-061-033-059.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === metallitux [n=master@66.16.61.183] has joined #kubuntu [02:16] please help me! cant get into any GUI [02:16] what happens? === wirr [n=wirr@i53875FEE.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu [02:16] cfraz89, it just kicks me back to KDM like i never logged in [02:16] oh [02:17] try running startkde from a terminal? === aolbrich [n=aolbrich@dslb-084-061-033-059.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:17] that worked [02:18] cfraz89, why would that work and not the KDM? [02:18] it shouldnt lol [02:18] what can i do to fix that? [02:19] ummm [02:20] try reinstalling kdm? [02:20] maybe you want a copy of my kdmrc? === metallitux [n=master@66.16.61.183] has joined #kubuntu [02:21] cfraz89, sorry about that [02:21] had to restart X [02:23] thats ok [02:23] is ok now? === dave_oz [n=dave@static-10.51.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:24] cfraz89, nope [02:24] oh ok [02:24] but kde is working while i am like this [02:24] ill give you my kdmrc [02:25] see how it goes [02:25] actually not sure if it elps === DrNickRiviera [n=riviera@81-178-218-91.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:25] you might want to try reinstalling kdm [02:26] so remove and reinstall with apt? === Phleagor [n=tux@p54A60BDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [02:26] try [02:26] but it might want to take out kde with it === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FEBE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === michi50 [n=michael@chello213047254144.tirol.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu === _david [n=david@cor8-ppp829.hay.dsl.connect.net.au] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === cheyder [n=cheyder@e178123047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu === chris___ [n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === sankar [n=sankarsh@59.92.130.44] has joined #kubuntu === thorsten_ [n=thorsten@dslc-082-082-175-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has joined #kubuntu [02:48] morning === ian_ [n=ian@ppp-70-247-115-75.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === bipolar [n=bflong@mail.sscsince73.com] has joined #kubuntu === axisme [n=JJVen@host-212-158-244-58.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === Terminus [n=justin@210.213.131.13] has joined #kubuntu === h3sp4wn [n=samw@82.3.197.7] has joined #kubuntu === cfraz89 [n=christop@44.191.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu === Seantater [n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === andred is now known as andre^off === frank_ [n=frank@dslb-084-060-106-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === squilla [n=dave@dsl-146-161-222.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu [03:05] Anyone has succesfully used Network-manager-openvpn ? === rdale [n=rdale@193.146.95.195] has joined #kubuntu [03:09] didnt even know it existed [03:09] Cant find it in my reps. === chris___ is now known as oofus === uros_ [n=uros@pD95374FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === andre^off is now known as andred === PascalFr [n=PascalFr@ATuileries-152-1-25-182.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === kosh [n=kosh@aesaeion.com] has joined #kubuntu === wtfhappened [n=love@kr-lun-162-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #kubuntu === vengeful [n=JJVen@host-212-158-244-58.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === vengeful is now known as axisme === laszlok [n=laszlo@HSE-London-ppp196402.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === linyll [n=linyll@mic92-6-82-227-95-165.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Get] === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-058-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-245-81.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu === JRGC [n=JG@F565d.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu === addone [n=addone@222.248.80.50] has joined #kubuntu === mpas [n=michael@router.isea.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #kubuntu === marciofalvo [n=marciofa@200.136.246.176] has joined #kubuntu === rockin_stan [n=stan@unaffiliated/rockinstan] has joined #kubuntu === farous [n=farous@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu === billytwowilly [n=chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:54] Hi, I just installed the updates and now kde won't start up. says something like "invalid number of arguments (4)" how do I fix this? gnome sucks compared to kde... === nexus10 [n=thomasn@213-152-52-109.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #kubuntu [03:56] billytwowilly: Wich KDE ? [03:56] dapper [03:56] From what repo [03:56] KDE Dapper? ;) [03:56] asked witch version of KDE [03:56] kde from dapper... [03:56] bah, wich VERSION ffs [03:56] I dunno. probably the latest. whatever is in dapper. [03:57] billytwowilly: do you use any speical drivers? [03:57] nvidia.. that's it. [03:57] reinstall it [03:58] nvidia works just fine. I'm in gnome now. [03:58] it just doesnt' log into kde? [03:59] yah. kde tries to start up and I get an error that says something like "invalid number of arguments (4)" then it goes into gnome because gnome is still the default desktop. [03:59] try coming into #kde and asking [03:59] Hi. Can anyone tell me what are the minimum set of tools I need to "apt-get install" in order to be able to "make install"? GCC not required, just make AFAIK. [04:00] nexus10: you usually need the dev files I think [04:01] DeadS0ul: d'you know which apt-get command I need? apt-cache search dev is a little scary :-) === simlu [n=simlu@mail.touchtunes.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:02] I think you can use apt-cache show to see what libraries it uses [04:02] and get what you need need [04:03] DeadS0ul: thanks, I'll experiment. Not sure what the package-name is, though... [04:03] so if the program you want to build from source uses openssh, then you probably need libssl-dev or gnutls-dev [04:03] what're you trying to build? === linyll [n=linyll@mic92-6-82-227-95-165.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === billytwowilly [n=chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:05] nexus10: build-essential usually helps with that [04:05] !b-s [04:05] Hobbsee: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ [04:05] !b-e [04:05] or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a sudo apt-get install build-essential. [04:06] hi all, anyone know if there is any discussion about creating xen-playable base images aloing with iso's? [04:06] it actually says "unsupported number of arguments (4)" [04:06] thanks all === johnflux_ [n=johnflux@cpc3-brig4-0-0-cust417.brig.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === paran_ [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #kubuntu === khaije|away is now known as khaije === hastesaver [n=hastesav@59.92.206.96] has joined #kubuntu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu === marciofalvo [n=marciofa@200.136.246.176] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Kejk_PL [n=konrad@staticline23715.toya.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu === rockinstan [n=stan@unaffiliated/rockinstan] has joined #kubuntu === Shock [n=mircea@81.196.151.21] has joined #kubuntu [04:22] Good morning! ...got a bit of confusion === kkathman-zzzz is now known as kkathman === Jozo [i=jozo@nelli.ikonia.fi] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] I installed from the Dapper Beta2 .iso, thinking it was the latest, but today someone suggested trying the 'Flight 7' .iso [04:23] rtg_: yes, flight 7 is later. you can easily update to flight 7 from beta2 [04:24] I thought the 'flight n' series was pre-beta [04:24] greetings Hobbsee [04:24] hey kkathman :) [04:24] rtg_: er...i thought that too. i'ts not though [04:24] rtg_: flight is just a milestone codename and has no relation to pre-/post- [04:25] i.e., flight 1 < flight 2 < ... < flight 6 < beta < beta 2 < flight 7 < ... < release candidiate < final [04:25] Hobbsee: if we've been dist-upgrading and/or daily updating we're all getting the latest things tho right? [04:25] kkathman: yep :) [04:25] even if we started at flight 6 [04:25] just wanted to verify that for everyone :) [04:26] I think the web site or wiki needs to be updated. The testing/dapperbeta/ page points to a server that only has the 4/28 beta2 [04:27] Is there an overall status page with announcements and pointers to the latest? [04:29] I'm participating in a bug that's files against the installer itself, so I have to re-install with the latest. An update to an already-installed system won't show me anything. === evert [n=beattls@100.31-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu [04:30] hello all [04:30] hi hi === Jozo [n=jozo@nelli.ikonia.fi] has joined #kubuntu [04:31] i'm searching for a 'audio progam' like skype for linux (skype don't wanna work on 64 bit and teamspeak just don't works :S ) [04:31] so i'm searching another program wich can do it :) === Lurkan [n=agsm@dsl-201-128-14-215.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #kubuntu [04:32] Which settings should I use to get norwegian chars ""? I consol I can TYPE the letters, but when I try to list filenames containing these letters I only get "?" [04:32] tried gnome meeting? it's caleld somethign else now ..forgot what it is [04:32] jarle: you need the fonts installed for that locale I think === SiriusA [n=hagbard@e182078082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu [04:33] somebody here on dapper, using amarok and musicbrainz? === xwolf- [n=xwolf-@201.32.252.239] has joined #Kubuntu [04:33] me, musicbrainz ain't working in juk either [04:34] !dapper [04:34] Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :) [04:34] DeadS0ul, it works, but only musicbrainz make some problems [04:34] can i use gnome meeting (on kubuntu :P) to talk with frineds who have windows ? [04:35] DeadS0ul: any idea which package to install? [04:35] is the quality of gnome meeting ok ? [04:35] jarle: dunno =| [04:35] evert: probably, go try it out [04:36] but can i talk with friends who have windows and wich program do they need ? [04:36] SiriusA: what kinda problems? [04:36] DeadS0ul, described at the bottom: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10 [04:37] DeadS0ul, but this dont work for me, he dont install libtunepimp2c2 [04:38] DeadS0ul, apt tells me, that this package is not available, but replaced through this: libtunepimp2c2a === imonkey [n=imonkey@unaffiliated/imonkey] has joined #kubuntu [04:40] is it already possible to download kubuntu dapper beta? [04:40] sure === patlkli [n=patlkli@217.91.79.188] has joined #kubuntu [04:40] awsome going to check right away :) === deuce868 [n=deuce868@mail.msufame.msu.edu] has joined #kubuntu [04:41] maybe this is a stupid question but is it possible to download an iso when its beta? [04:42] is Kubuntu dapper also coming out at June 1 ? And can i just do a 'update / upgrade' ? Or do i have to reinstall everything ? [04:42] !upgrade [04:42] Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . [04:42] evert: im almost certain you can upagrade it from breezy :) [04:42] HymnToLife: does that also cover my question? [04:43] yeah, tht's wht it's for :) [04:43] HymnToLife: ok sorry thought it was for evert :) [04:44] imonkey: you can always download the latest flights from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com I think [04:45] yeah but what's the point in downloading the whole ISO when you can upgrade just the stuff you need ? [04:45] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/ <- there we go. [04:45] BazziR: thanks ill bookmark it right away :) [04:45] if upgrade is available, upgrade should be done of course :=) [04:45] HymnToLife: i dont got breezy installed anymore.. and trew away the iso :P [04:45] yeah stupid i know === niekie [n=niekie@niekie/unaffiliated] has joined #kubuntu [04:46] I heard Dapper has a graphical installer, pity [04:46] I didn't dare to use the graphical installer yet [04:46] I will stick with "Install Breezy and then upgrade to Dapper" I guees, just like I do with Debin [04:46] too buggy [04:46] also has non-graphical === andred is now known as andre^off === manolista [n=Guest763@4.Red-80-33-201.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:50] !dapper [04:50] Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :) === virnik [n=virnik@82.100.62.226] has joined #kubuntu === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu === deuce868_ [n=deuce868@ts.msufame.msu.edu] has joined #kubuntu === Jozo_ [i=jozo@nelli.ikonia.fi] has joined #kubuntu === olivier___ [n=olivier@103.141.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@118.Red-80-33-122.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:01] how can make an app run thru cron connect to X.. kdialog sez it cant connect === Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu [05:03] the libtunepimp in ubuntu wont do mp3s which is why it wont workwith amarok, iirc === evert [n=evert@100.31-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu [05:03] SiriusA, [05:03] how can i call to a windows user with Ekiga ? (i have installed it just , and it's working :) ) [05:06] evert call their sip number [05:06] sip:number === gi [n=gi@p3E9E0558.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === JakubS [n=qba@azk210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === morrow [i=aw@mailadm.in] has joined #kubuntu === DeadS0ul1` [n=sunil@n219078093052.netvigator.com] has joined #kubuntu === noteventime [n=tilo@h209n2c1o291.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:13] i can call to a sip number , but how do i know the sip number of 'adres@hotmail.com' or (for a gtalk user) adres@gmail.Com ? === cenzo [n=cenzo@host-84-220-159-95.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === Phleagor [n=tux@p54A60BDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === DrNickRiviera [n=riviera@81-178-218-91.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:17] evert, Iit might be sip:user@hotmail.com === gili [n=gil@wiley-459-40359.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:17] i was just liiking at the faq, i aint sure [05:18] i need help with kubuntu networkin setupo [05:18] anywone [05:18] i installed the kubuntu CD === gi_ [n=gi@p3E9E0558.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === SiriusA [n=hagbard@e182078082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #kubuntu ["...] [05:18] i had no network connection so i had to leave it all blank [05:18] i can access network settings at all now [05:19] ok [05:19] can someone tell me what is going on!! [05:19] i cant access them excuse me [05:20] does ekiga supports 'just out of the box' to call to a windows msn user (like adress@hotmail.com ) ? === Kyral [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #kubuntu [05:20] will someone here help me? [05:20] if you ask [05:20] i am asking [05:20] if you ask it, they will answer [05:20] nice [05:21] then I wasn't paying attention lol [05:21] <== Is in 15 channels [05:21] I installed the Kubunut latests image on cd and boot it up, since i dont have internet at office [05:21] i had to leave the network config part blank [05:21] now after install was done...it completely locked network settings [05:21] i cant access them now [05:22] use the commandline ifconfig then [05:22] ok can you please tell me how... [05:22] man ifconfig? [05:22] ok [05:22] I know I shouldn't do RTFM [05:22] but I just woke up lol [05:22] gili: sudo ifconfig eth0 up === plars [n=plars@pixpat.austin.ibm.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:22] sorry i dont know the lingo RTFM? [05:23] gili: sudo dhclient eth0 [05:23] basically a very rude way to tell you to read the manual [05:23] ok [05:23] like I said [05:23] read the fing manual ok [05:23] before caffine reaches my brain, Kyral not happy :P [05:24] thansk squilla [05:24] now can you tell me why i cant acess the settings from the GUI [05:24] it keeps locking up [05:25] gili:no sorry [05:25] gili: which gui [05:25] when i go to the network preferences and enter admin mode it wont let me do any config it locks up [05:25] crashes [05:26] gili: "networking or "networkng tools"? [05:26] gili:use "networking" [05:26] networking under system preferences [05:26] where it lists the devices [05:26] botht my ethernet and wireless are disabled [05:26] when i enter admin mode and try to enable them it does nothings [05:26] gili:open a terminal --> type "sudo network-admin" === crazykiller [n=crazykil@ppp142-106.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu [05:27] hi [05:27] ok [05:27] and then [05:27] ? === laszlok [n=laszlo@HSE-London-ppp196402.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [05:28] i will do that [05:28] gili:select the device you want - click properties; select dhcp [05:28] i have installed Ubuntu + KDE. How can I UNINSTALL Gnome??? [05:28] gili:click "ok", try a website..... and get back to me :-) [05:28] i have tried that from the sytem settings and it crashes === Jozo [i=jozo@nelli.ikonia.fi] has joined #kubuntu [05:29] crazy:why would you? [05:29] crazy:space? [05:29] i will try it from the terminal [05:29] gili:try it - I have other ways [05:29] gili:coolio! [05:30] why would it be locked up after install, just a question [05:30] do I HAVE TO HAVE a network connection when installing kbuntu of cd-rom [05:30] i get confused with the gnome applications. Sorry , its the first time at Linux === evert [n=evert@100.31-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu [05:30] anyone here use azureus from universe? [05:30] crazy:probably use adept/synaptic and select gnome-desktop+ remove [05:30] hi squilla [05:30] DrNick: Yo! [05:31] gili:It helps [05:31] you had any problems with it? [05:31] whenever i start it my computer slows to a crawl [05:31] thanx, i ask because yesterday i uninstall the whole x-window by mistake! [05:31] and i never see the gui or anything [05:31] ok thanks squilla will try now [05:31] quit === tminos [n=bowens@24-180-14-58.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:31] DrNick: not used it - not the fliesharing type - we pay for our bandwidth in this country :-( [05:32] ah, ok [05:32] anyone else used it? [05:32] why not use kbittorrent? === tminos [n=bowens@24-180-14-58.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === gi_ is now known as GLi_ [05:33] mainly because i've used azureus for ages and still have quite a few unfinished torrents [05:34] might have a look at it though [05:34] the tor files can't be copied over? [05:34] I know I managed that before in kde - just clicked on them and kbittorrent opens up ... [05:35] DrNick: otherwise I can't help - you could run it from a terminal and watch the output [05:35] DrNick: it's a java app? === cc-dash_ [n=tom@i577AE775.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === rosex [n=rosex@81-236-210-236-no28.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:42] squilla: i've downloaded half of them === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD9508BD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:42] so they are on the hard drive, just not complete [05:42] it is a java app, yes [05:42] is there some way i can get the kmenu to update without rebooting? === thom_ [n=thom@ip70-187-209-40.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:43] DrNick: you mean logging out ? with ctrl+alt+bkscpce? [05:44] wont that close all the programs i've got running? [05:44] it till kill them [05:44] my problem is, that after i install programs they don't show up in the kmenu until i reboot [05:44] not "close" them [05:44] ;) [05:45] DrNick: you can start them at the cli anyway [05:45] i know [05:45] that's what i do [05:46] but would still be nice to have them either pop up automatically, or run some command to have it update [05:47] DrNick:*flirting over kopete* some do ... odd [05:47] I have problems with Ekiga , i can't connect to a msn adres , to have a audio conversation.... can somebody help me with this problem pls ? [05:49] evert: do you have an account with ekiga? === gili [n=gil@wiley-459-40359.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:50] hello [05:50] need help with networking [05:51] qsilla [05:51] ? [05:51] i tried sudo ifconfig nothing [05:52] when kubuntu boots up its say both on basic networking setup and ont netwwork interfaces that failed === VRWarper [n=VRWarper@cpe-24-90-214-144.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:52] i cant seem to acces the network config at all [05:53] gili: what network card is it? === slicslak [n=slicslak@node-2823.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] i have ethernet realtek [05:53] and atheros wifi card === GilaMnstr [n=ccambly@fw54.torolab.ibm.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] but i did what you told me [05:53] and no go [05:54] when i go to system settings>internet concections>network preferences === hastesaver [n=hastesav@59.92.149.64] has joined #kubuntu [05:54] both ethernet and wifi interfaces are disabled [05:54] gili: type"lsmod | grep rt" and look for the driver for your network card === dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-245-81.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:55] when it try use administrator mode to enable them it does nothing [05:55] it sees the drives [05:55] drivers it just wont let me enable anything [05:55] do i need to reinstall the OS or what? [05:56] gili: No! :-D [05:56] gili: we're not dealing with M$ here .... [05:56] excuse me i meant linux [05:56] sorry [05:57] please bear with me here... [05:57] gili: try "ifconig" I want to know if you see any devices there [05:57] gili: chill my guy :-) - it's all in fun [05:57] when i boot up......the kubuntu screen says that "Network interface config/setup failed" [05:58] gili:" ifconfig" soz [05:58] when i type ifconfig it recognizes the device [05:58] but i cant enable it [05:58] i have tried it [05:58] but i am, as you can tell, a newbie [05:58] so i dont really knowwhat i am doing [05:59] gili:never mind that === cow_2001 [n=username@bzq-88-153-248-158.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:59] ok [05:59] gili:what does it show you? eth0? lo? ath0? [05:59] i did ifconfig ath0 up [05:59] right [05:59] then or eth0 up === ftpserver [n=ftpserve@194.255.47.148] has joined #kubuntu [06:00] i once told kerry to load beagled every time i log into kde [06:00] either way it shows me the info [06:00] mac adresss [06:00] etc... [06:00] then i couldn't make it to not load it everytime [06:00] what should i be looking for [06:01] it recognizes both ath0 and eth0 === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:01] gili:but no ip numbers? [06:02] nope [06:02] it doesnt connect to anything [06:02] when i go to configure interfaces in the system settings it crashes [06:02] i think it conflicts the two cards [06:02] cause when i do ifconfig i get type:ethernet for both === sampan [n=bamboo@ppp-71-139-51-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:03] gili:no no - look at the output of eth0 - on the second line you'll see "inet addr: 10.0.0.45" or whatever - if there's no number we can fix it and that is your problem === GeorLi [n=gi@p3E9E0558.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === ziop [n=ziop@orion.unipv.it] has joined #kubuntu [06:04] no number === hastesaver [n=hastesav@59.92.149.64] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:05] gili:type "sudo ifdown ath0" === nathan [n=nathan@84.12.166.86] has joined #kubuntu [06:05] ellooo [06:05] ok and then [06:06] squilla , sry i was away for a moment === Raven301 [n=raven301@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3566845.sympatico.ca] has joined #Kubuntu [06:06] i have got an account for ekiga [06:06] gili:type "ifconfig" again [06:06] gili:ath0 is gone right? [06:06] is ifdown ath0 same us ifconfig ath0 down [06:07] gili:don't know [06:07] gili:keep it simple for now [06:07] ok [06:07] ifconfig didnt show me ath0 or eth0 [06:07] i will try that shortly and let you know === sampan [n=bamboo@ppp-71-139-51-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:08] can you help me a bit squilla pls ? [06:08] ok sqilla thanks [06:08] help ever [06:08] evert [06:08] i will try it [06:08] I can help both (slowly :-)) [06:09] how do i get kubuntu to do this at boot time [06:09] gili: ifconfig --> just to see what's available - the fact that they are there means they're ok === nexus10 [n=thomasn@213-152-52-109.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:09] ok === malte_ [n=malte@81-234-234-129-no45.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:09] later === gili [n=gil@wiley-459-40359.roadrunner.nf.net] has left #kubuntu [] [06:09] ok , i have Ekiga installed ... i'm logged in (i think) but now i wanna call to a windows user (he uses msn). I typed in the field : sip: adres@hotmail.com but he can't connect then [06:10] gili: if eth0 is there type "sudo dhclient3 eth0" [06:10] gili: let me know ... === malte_ is now known as malte [06:10] evert: [06:11] yes ? [06:11] evert: you have to use sip:user@ip number - I was googling for info - I've never done it before [06:11] evert: I'm still looking [06:12] me too , but i have found in the ekiga faq (and the help from ekiga) that i can call somebody with 'sip:name(@ekiga.net)' [06:12] evert: I'd like to do it myself - don't like skype [06:12] if he uses a ekiga.net account , you can leave it blank [06:12] i tried to use skype , but it failed to work on linux [06:12] evert: that's the easy one - but teh msn thing ... lets look around? [06:13] evert: skype fails? why/ [06:13] btw , stupid question , but if you say something to me it's highlited in red .. how can you do that ? [06:14] because i'm using the 64 bit version , i'm missing some packages but my system fails to install them (strange thing i know) [06:15] It should work with Windows Messenger, not MSN Messenger, which is [06:15] different. === epinephrine [i=geek@82-37-152-150.cable.ubr01.wals.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [06:15] evert: I have AMD64 - but it's simpler for now to use 32bit version === kubuntutaotao [n=ttkubunt@221.198.129.136] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan [n=stuq@74-32-62-42.dsl1.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu === m0ns00n [n=m0ns00n@213.167.96.196] has joined #kubuntu [06:16] i know , but i'm using boinc with rosetta@home , my score is much better with 64 bit :) === rafa [n=rafa@201-1-52-136.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] anyone know if it's normal for screen (the useful app) to show up as a 2nd logged in user? i.e., if at CLI i do "users" i see myself logged in ... but if i run screen and do "users" i see my username logged in twice -- is that normal? [06:17] evert:I tried to chat to you in a tab - can you see it? === PascalFr [n=PascalFr@ATuileries-152-1-25-182.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [06:19] sry i missed the tab , but i can't talk to u because i'm unregistered [06:19] evert: register please - I want to try something [06:20] ok , can you tell me fast how ? (or i'll search it) [06:20] evert: the color thing is in the settings for konversation [06:20] type "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY " [06:21] hmm === stuq [n=stuq@74-32-62-42.dsl1.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu === Seazor [n=Seazor@7-94.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu === picoss [n=picoss@roa76-5-82-234-252-130.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Seazor [n=Seazor@7-94.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-058-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@3e44a4b6.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #kubuntu === bhna [n=bhna@p54B8222F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === addone [n=addone@222.248.80.50] has joined #kubuntu === evert [n=evert@100.31-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu === milian [n=milian@p54BEC3F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === evert is now known as evert_ [06:33] evert: did you see what I said about "CTRL K"? === X3n0n_iMac__ [n=fabien@AMontpellier-251-1-100-130.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === frepe [n=frepe@c-621f72d5.022-205-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === sonic [n=sonic@83.141.118.40] has joined #kubuntu === florin- [n=flo@host28-126.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu === VRWarper [n=VRWarper@cpe-24-90-214-144.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === kubuntutaotao [n=ttkubunt@221.198.129.136] has joined #kubuntu === petros [n=petros@host-82-135-112-70.customer.m-online.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:39] my kaffeine is crashed,and reinstall it that it doesn't run,why? === sonic [n=sonic@83.141.118.40] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === kkathman [n=kkathman@71.123.131.178] has joined #kubuntu [06:41] try "ps ax | grep kaffeine" [06:41] Then type "kill -9 (each PID number that appears on the left) [06:42] squilla: or "killall kaffeine" === Carbon_Monoxide [n=antony@n219078068016.netvigator.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] OdyX: doen't work as well as it used to - often the binary name of a program is tied up in a path and killall fails then [06:43] i use kubuntu 5.10, and update my kde to 3.5.2, and then found that i couldn't copy & paste files in the same folder anymore [06:43] OdyX: try it with firefox [06:43] 7599 ? S 0:00 perl /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/cmd konversation irc.freenode.net #kubuntu ps ax | grep kaffeine [06:43] 7600 ? R 0:00 sh -c ps ax | grep kaffeine === meister_ [n=meister@p5494A0D7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:44] squilla: up [06:44] "kill -9 7600" === sonic [n=sonic@83.141.118.40] has joined #kubuntu [06:44] has anyone here got into the same trouble? [06:45] addone: I don't really understand [06:45] Anyone know how I can make 'Konversation' make a sound when I get a message directed to me? [06:45] squilla: ok.then???? [06:46] i mean, i just couldn't duplicate my files by copy & paste [06:46] sonic: "Settings" "Notifications" === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu [06:46] in kde 3.5.0, when i copy & paste the same file, it will give me a dialog to rename the file. [06:47] but in kde 3.5.2, when i do the same, it just give me an error dialog saying the source and the target are the same [06:48] what i can do is just click on the OK button , i couldn't rename it and got a duplicated file [06:49] OdyX: Aha thanks. So I have to assign the sounds myself? [06:49] Kubuntu: try start kaffeine again [06:49] sonic: I think so [06:50] ok - and you can't click and rename files? or save them somewhere else? [06:50] OdyX: Thanks. [06:50] squilla: [06:50] i can't copy & paste files in the same folder [06:50] ttkubuntu@TTkubuntu:~$ kaffeine [06:50] DVB 0 : [06:50] DVB 1 : [06:50] DVB 2 : [06:50] DVB 3 : [06:50] ScimInputContextPlugin() [06:51] addone: try to use [Ctrl] during drag [06:52] addone: I can't see why you'd want to - sorry guy - can't help you [06:53] thx, but i mean that in the same folder, i couldn't duplicate a file with copy&paste [06:53] hmmh [06:53] it just gives me a dialog saying the source and the target are the same, i could do nothing [06:53] kubuntutaotao: can I get that in English? [06:53] addone: oh i see, I never have :-). umm - just save as? [06:54] oops :/ === grimse [n=grimse@F2230.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:54] in konqueror, copy & paste === kubuntutaotao [n=ttkubunt@221.198.129.136] has joined #kubuntu [06:55] addone: just tried - does it - puts the word "copy" in th namee === jel [n=Cantsay@210-84-28-80.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [06:56] in konqueror , trying to duplicate a file by simply copy & paste in the same dir [06:56] ok I need some help with my partitions :( [06:57] the live CD installer botched up, and fudged the boot table [06:57] or similar [06:57] :S [06:57] the partitions are in tact [06:57] it works in kde 3.5.0 ,it will allow me to rename my file;however in 3.5.2, it just show me an error... === tminos [n=bowens@24-180-14-58.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] Anybody know how I can set firefox as my default browseer for opening links from email and IRC etc? === andre^off is now known as andred [07:02] sonic, you can configure your default browser in Kcontrol [07:03] Cheers === brandon_ [n=brandon@216.167.241.193] has joined #kubuntu [07:04] go to "kde components"->"component selector", you will find it [07:05] I can't find kde components [07:06] I just types kcontrol in a terminal and got it up, (but would like to know where kde components is for future reference anyway [07:06] i'm sorry ,my kde isn't english, just goto the second menu [07:06] ok, thanks === kubuntutaotao [n=ttkubunt@221.198.129.136] has joined #kubuntu === thom_ [n=thom@ip70-187-209-40.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:07] got it :-) === tminos [n=bowens@24-180-14-58.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === mathieu_ [n=mathieu@86.71.144.206] has joined #kubuntu [07:09] i use kubuntu 5.10 and kde 3.5.2, in konqueror, i try to duplicate a file by simply copy & paste in the same dir, but i got an error dialog saying that the source and the target file are the same, what i can only do is click on the OK button. [07:10] however, in kde 3.5.0, when i do the same, it will show me a dialog to rename the duplicated file, not an error dialog. [07:12] and i have post the problem in the #kde channel, they told me it isn't kde's bug, 'cause they can got the rename dialog. === gianluca [n=gianluca@adsl-ull-174-138.47-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu [07:13] so i suppose it is only happen on kubuntu, is anyone here had got into the same trouble? [07:13] addone: you have to change the name... === XVampireX [n=sergey@82.166.97.74] has joined #kubuntu [07:14] but it should allow me to rename the file, not just show me an error... [07:14] and in previous version, it works well [07:15] evert_: What package did you download? === shift [i=shift@water.shiftnetwork.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [07:17] addone: yes, the logic of how it works has been changed... === cc-dash__ [n=tom@i577AE775.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === kubuntutaotao [n=ttkubunt@221.198.129.136] has joined #kubuntu [07:17] and it is only changed in kubuntu? [07:17] addone: use right click and 'Copy To' [07:18] addone: no, it is changed in Fedora too etc., just a revision of the user interface I guess [07:18] hello [07:18] oh no, when i use "copy to", i can't select current dir... [07:18] i didn't download packages , i just downloaded the 'static' map from the skype site === pradeepto [n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-12-208.maa.sify.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:19] addone: you can, thats the default with 'Browse' [07:19] Why don't you get the the deb package? === andred is now known as andre^off [07:19] because i'm using 64 bit , the deb is only for 32 bit [07:19] Ah [07:19] How about the QT version? [07:19] Static binary tar.bz2 with Qt 3.2 compiled in (10.4 MB) [07:19] Use if the above dont work. [07:20] yes [07:20] i tried them both [07:20] it doesn't work, i got the same error dialog... [07:20] And what does it say? [07:20] they give both the same error : [07:20] ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [07:20] ooo [07:21] You need that library [07:21] Blissex, when i use "copy to", the current dir can't be choose === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #kubuntu [07:21] in adept , i can see that that lib is already installed [07:21] they may try to load that from /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64 where you might have it === mdhooge [n=michel@mtg95-1-82-233-24-66.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:21] You need the exact same version too [07:21] and when i use "browse", i just got the same error dialog [07:21] yes , it's the same version (libpng 12) [07:21] Weird [07:22] It says it cannot find the library === _root [n=root@S01060011115375fa.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:22] but adept says that the lib is installed [07:23] evert_: do a sudo updatedb and then locate libpng12.so where is it found? === _root is now known as Midspeed [07:23] hi === _root [n=root@S01060011115375fa.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:24] libpng12: /usr/lib/libpng12.a /usr/lib/libpng12.so /usr/include/libpng12 === OdyX is now known as OdyXydO === Midspeed [n=root@S01060011115375fa.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:25] hm, create a symlink === Yon_0 [n=root@c3-119-2.rba.dial-up.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:25] hey all [07:25] how can you do that ? (sry i'm quite new to linux) [07:25] libpng12.so -> libpng12.so.0 === jager [n=jag@66.37.240.11] has joined #kubuntu [07:25] Yon_0: hello [07:25] does anyone know java? or a channle i can join for a help [07:25] hey squilla :D [07:25] libpng12.so: /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 /usr/lib/libpng12.so [07:25] using "ln -s", you can find the exact syntax by typing man ln in the console [07:25] how u doin? [07:25] oh [07:26] Yon_0: ##java [07:26] seems it's there afterall? [07:26] Yon_0: coolio [07:26] i have to do what now ? [07:26] kk thx XVampireX [07:26] hey i have a question! sorry to butt in and all, but isnt there a way that i can upgrade my kubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 beta2? === FaTBaT [n=FaTBaT@87.252.230.24] has joined #kubuntu === OdyXydO is now known as OdyX [07:26] weird problem then [07:26] evert: use the full path names - or it'll create a link where you are [07:26] without having to use a cd [07:27] Midspeed: yes === Brujah [n=Markus@200.63.222.240] has joined #kubuntu [07:27] how BazziR? [07:27] im new at this! === thmas [n=thomas@i577BCD44.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:27] Midspeed: replace every "breezy" in your sources.list with "dapper" and then runapt-get update and afterwards apt-get dist-upgrade [07:27] i'm in /home/evert/installs/skype ... [07:27] hy everybody! [07:27] ok thanks im gonna try that right now [07:28] thanks BazziR [07:28] gotta go now, the folks here can help you out surely. === jaaroo__ is now known as jaaroo [07:28] thanks [07:28] are there any plans to make the startup of kubuntu graphical like it is in mandriva, suse and the like? === milian [n=milian@p54BEC3F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:29] evert:"ln -s libpng12.so /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0" [07:29] evert:but check that you have the correct file names [07:30] evert:aaargh - other way round! [07:30] so i have to do ln -s /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 libpng12.so.0 ? === andre^off is now known as andred [07:31] evert:try it [07:31] if you/re not sure type "man ln" [07:31] I'm hungry === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #kubuntu [07:32] still the same eroor [07:32] error [07:33] earlier you could read where skype looks for libraries - copy paste that in our private tab please === gil_ [n=gil@wiley-459-40359.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:34] hello [07:34] is squilla [07:34] still here? [07:35] gil:hi - in a private chat. wazzup? [07:35] well i need your help again :) [07:35] gil:sure - tell [07:36] do you remember my problem [07:36] networking [07:36] ja several hundred lines up :-D [07:36] anyways i got the eth0 to enable but i cant get ath0 to enable === ziza [n=aziz@chello084112072063.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu [07:36] do you need it? [07:36] gil;do you need it? [07:37] my wireless yes [07:37] gil:hmmkay [07:37] ifconfig picks up eth0 with the ip from router no poblem === OutoLumo [n=tuomas@stargazer-dsl.utu.fi] has left #kubuntu ["Getting] [07:37] gil: so: ifconfig shows what? [07:38] the following three: ath0 eth0 and lo === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu [07:38] ath0 is wireless atheros card... it pick it up with MAC adrees no ip adress [07:39] i cant enable it under system settings [07:39] gil: so: sudo dhclient3 ath0 [07:40] ok can i have both wireless and ethernet hooked up at the same time [07:40] gil: I'm assuming you have a dsl router [07:40] cable router yes [07:41] well ... not sure - you can't use them to connect to the net in the same machine at the same time [07:41] that's loop I think [07:42] ok now when i do ifconfig i get the lo loop listed is that normal [07:42] does anyone of you know when flash 8.5 (or 9?) is going to be released for linux? [07:42] squilla dont u know java? [07:43] gil: lo should be listed all the time [07:43] Yon_0: I code worse than my mom [07:43] lol, im struggeling with a damn input! [07:44] Yon_0: ah . you too code worse than my mom! === Goffi [n=Goffi@men06-1-82-237-1-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Brujah [n=Markus@200.63.222.240] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [07:44] lol ye [07:44] hi [07:44] can anyone code java here? [07:45] hello === dinofly [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:50] Yon_0: be a real man and learn python === kyaneos [n=kyaneos@226.Red-83-54-189.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:52] squilla: be a real man and learn to accept java as your new master. [07:53] be a real man and learn c++ [07:53] ewww! === Goffi is now known as Goffi[afk] [07:53] real men don't worry about the language and just solve the problem instead. === jager [n=jag@66.37.240.11] has joined #kubuntu [07:54] lol, i knew a lil bit before hey, its quick to learn [07:54] Java is like C++ with a condom on. It's a lot safer to screw with. === vidak [n=vidak@PC179.konkoly.hu] has joined #kubuntu [07:55] i never used java ... but how can it be 'safer' ? [07:55] less chance on memory leaks etc with pointers ? === milian [n=milian@p54BEC3F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === skipjack [n=skipjack@pD9E26F50.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === squilla [n=dave@dsl-146-161-222.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu [07:59] hello === ps- [n=ps@fw-lan-transit.le1.spacenet.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:00] skipjack: hi [08:00] hi === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@3e44a4b6.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #kubuntu [08:01] hello i have installed the Kubuntu Dapper Drake 6, but after the installation my system hangs at the "Mounting root file system..." (my systems was hanging already as I want to install, after Loading Kernel .. it hangs and after I have remove some ram and insert only 256MB it was sworking and the installer appears ..) [08:02] check your ram with memtest [08:03] I have the mem is oky, I and I have already installed only the 256MB module what I have use for the installation .. [08:04] you already have checked if your ram is OK ? [08:04] hmm.. now it boots after changing the ram and insderting the 512mb module.. I will test the ram a second time .. [08:05] oky this problem will I find self out ;) [08:05] is there an default root password by kubuntu? I think I haven't give any root password .. === tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has joined #kubuntu === jager [n=jag@66.37.240.11] has joined #kubuntu [08:06] skip: type "sudo " === laszlok [n=laszlo@HSE-London-ppp196402.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [08:07] skip: and use your normal user password [08:07] skipjack: on ubuntu you have no root password [08:08] use sudo instead [08:09] any one know of a good mysql gui thats not gonna cost me? [08:10] phpmysqladmin [08:10] aside from that [08:10] mysqlcc [08:10] check adept === rosex [n=rosex@81-236-210-236-no28.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:11] i'm searching for such a tool too === thmas [n=thomas@i577BCD44.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:11] i used to use navicat... and i love it [08:11] a "sqlyog" clone would be good [08:11] but its too expensive to be worth my time [08:12] yeah sqlyog is pretty nice [08:12] i think we have to code it :) [08:12] :D [08:12] i use the console though [08:13] :) [08:13] console? [08:13] hm, wich port does the VNC in gnome use? For the "desktop-sharing" [08:13] ? [08:13] as in... comand line.. [08:13] siefkencp: yes === reon [n=reon@ndn-ip-nas-1-p130.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #kubuntu [08:14] yeah comand line is great but i dont feel like setting up all the tables and such by hand... i guess im just a lazy bastard that way [08:14] lol [08:14] :) [08:14] well, that can be a bitch [08:14] :> [08:14] php my admin is usefull but lacks on some features [08:15] i guess im just too damn picky === janne_ [n=janne@a80-186-54-74.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [08:15] one should be picky [08:15] we settle for medium quality [08:15] :D [08:15] when you have to work all day on mysql, phpmyadmin is a pain [08:15] otherwise it is very useful === jager [n=jag@66.37.240.11] has joined #kubuntu [08:16] but a web interface should always be a fallback solution [08:16] yep === SmokeW33d [n=ej@CPE-70-94-45-129.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:17] hello [08:17] does anyone know the command to test my nividia driver [08:17] its that gears program === visik7 [n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu [08:18] does Ubuntu have a fire wall set up by default? [08:19] SmokeW33d: glxgears -printfps [08:19] i have yet to learn about how iptables and other such vodoo works === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:19] Vampis: thanks [08:19] np [08:20] Vampis: now would you happen to know how to mount mds files? [08:20] well, i get how they work [08:20] i just havent bothered to learn how to configure them at the command line [08:20] SmokeW33d: dunno, try like ordinary iso === Icke [n=root@cc860660-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu === janne_ [n=janne@a80-186-54-74.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [08:21] Vampis: how would I do that [08:21] I dont mount manualy, I installed a servicemenu for kde [08:22] Vampis: lol in other words? [08:22] w8 === petsei [n=petsei@pD954BF1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:22] how do I manually start the gui (xserver) from the console? === greg_ [n=greg@ip-37-234.sn1.eutelia.it] has joined #kubuntu [08:23] Icke: startx should prolly work in ubuntu too [08:23] hello :) [08:23] hello [08:23] SmokeW33d: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/707853 [08:23] like that [08:23] any answers on how to list out the blocked or open ports on the default firewall? [08:24] hm, nmap ? [08:24] Vampis: thanks [08:24] siefkencp: guarddog is pretty fine for that [08:24] SmokeW33d: Dont know if it works on mds files though [08:25] odyx: do i need to apt-get it? [08:25] siefkencp: yep [08:25] siefkencp: then launch guarddog [08:25] I just did [08:25] :) [08:25] Just to check it out :) [08:26] kool... getting it [08:26] hm, looks nice [08:26] *removes* [08:26] :) [08:26] so theres no initial fire wall set up> [08:26] ? [08:26] dont think so [08:27] hmm [08:27] but I'm not 100% sure [08:27] i cant remotely connect to mysql... [08:27] are you behind a router ? [08:27] Vampis: can utell me why i cant play mp3s? === kyaneos [n=kyaneos@226.Red-83-54-189.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:27] nope... both on the same subnet and all [08:28] Vampis: in amarok with the xine engine installed [08:28] Vampis: thanks again [08:28] np [08:29] Time 2 go home [08:29] cYa tomorrow [08:29] or l8:er tonight [08:29] no initial firewall but no ports listening to incoming traffic by default [08:29] ahh hah! [08:30] how do i fix that? [08:30] http works === cc-dash_ [n=tom@i577AED10.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:30] siefkencp: http in from some other machine to yours works? Installed a server, then? [08:31] yeah... ive got the full lamppp stack my man [08:31] siefkencp: Just to orient myself right, what's your goal? [08:31] im just trying to connec to M from a foreign machine === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:32] damn textmode linux [08:32] and your apache is up and running and binding to a port? === ubuntu is now known as superstoned [08:32] yep [08:32] Icke: did you try startx already? [08:32] mysql is working fine on the loop back [08:33] but when i try to access across the network it dies out [08:33] yeah Lynoure , but it crashes [08:33] Icke: damn. What display card? [08:33] siefkencp: Actually dies? Then there is something else wrong... === Wolfdog [n=wolfdog@ip-89-102-58-155.karneval.cz] has joined #kubuntu === janne_ [n=janne@a80-186-54-74.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:34] Icke: have you tried removing x and reinstalling? [08:34] no it just wont allow the connection [08:34] When i boot to the login screen, I can enter my pass, the the screen goes black but i see the hourglass, that a second later turns into the cursor and responds to my mouse movement, but 2 seconds later, I am back at the login screen again [08:34] mysql is healthy [08:34] ahh [08:34] got an ATI X600 that worked with kubuntu before [08:34] thats a gnome/kde problem -- sounds like to me === Wolfdog [n=wolfdog@ip-89-102-58-155.karneval.cz] has left #kubuntu [] [08:35] reinstalling X would be wise methinks [08:35] x runs you dm though [08:35] ah yes, so KDE is to blame? [08:35] brb 2 secs [08:36] im guessing === petsei [n=petsei@pD954BF1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:38] Icke: are you sure that your user has writing rights on his home directory ? [08:38] Icke: I have X600 myself (on hp nc8230) [08:38] Im quite sure yes [08:38] Icke: Look at the time stamp on your xorg config file, has it changed recently? [08:38] certainly havent changed that, and it work for months === beefsprocket [n=beefspro@bas1-toronto02-1177911425.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu [08:39] when I make sudo root | password prompt comes, and then I push enter .. and when I now make passwd root the passwd command says me that I can't change password for root .. [08:39] !samba [08:39] samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html [08:39] Icke: i had the same problem after reinstalling without deleting my home partition [08:39] skipjack: Did you remember to write sudo there too? :) [08:40] I have write sudo [08:40] Icke: I asked whether it has changed, not if you changed it... [08:40] how can I see the timestamp of my xorg config file? [08:40] and I have write sudo su - | or sudo passwd root nothing works .. [08:40] ls -l [08:40] Icke: At least in dapper ther has been xserver updates like rain, and sometimes updates stupidly modify config files === tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:42] Icke that ls -l was for ya [08:42] Icke: ls -la filename [08:42] xorg.conf has not changed since 04-04-2006 [08:42] and im quite sure it worked after that date [08:43] thanks for the tips btw guys [08:43] hmm... [08:43] learning my way around textmode the hard way :D === shift [i=shift@water.shiftnetwork.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [08:43] Icke: Sorry they wouldn't help. Which driver do you use for your x600, btw? [08:43] it is the only way [08:44] icke: have you tried to create a new user and to login with it ? [08:44] ill try that now [08:44] Lynoure: doesnt X run the kdm/gdm? === OdyX is now known as OdyXydO [08:45] you can always reconfig to get it runing in xdm... theres an etc file to do that... it will tell you if its truely x that is the problem [08:45] siefkencp: kind of other way around [08:45] hmm === trym [n=trym@sluse.inviso.no] has joined #kubuntu [08:45] i closed the graphical login screen, how do i get it back? [08:46] i think you can do gdm or kdm or xdm right at the comand line?? === Snake[Sleep] is now known as Snake__ [08:46] i went through this before with a RHEL 4 problem [08:46] /etc/init.d/kdm start [08:46] /etc/init.d/kdm start === v3ctor wins [08:46] Icke: gdm if you use gnome, kdm if you use kde [08:46] LAG FFS! === Nirvana [n=marco@CPE0080c8292db5-CM000f9f5158ce.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:46] ;P [08:47] "kdm" says it only runs as root and "sudo kdm" does seem to do anything [08:47] sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start === evert [n=beattls@100.31-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu [08:47] its not installed by default [08:47] Is there a way to get data from one computer to another in ~512MB sections, in a rsync-like fashion? [08:47] gdm is === jager [n=jag@66.37.240.11] has joined #kubuntu [08:47] siefkencp: I think pretty much everyone go through an "my x does not start" problem at some point... usually whenever installing on a new computer.. [08:48] can somebody give me a link of a download for kubuntu (dapper drake32 bit) [08:48] yah, i went through it after having my production machine humming along... [08:48] siefkencp: but this is #kubuntu [08:48] siefkencp: so kdm is installed by default [08:48] Seantater: rsync [08:48] v3ctor: how? [08:48] k, got kdm running again, how do i create a new user? [08:49] Lynoure: if you start in gnome and install kde with synaptic... you wont get kdm with out hunting for it [08:49] Icke: in text mode :p [08:49] -B is for block size [08:49] obviously :D [08:49] useradd new_user [08:49] siefkencp: but then you are kinda not on kubuntu either.. or maybe... [08:49] sudo useradd new_user [08:49] !kdfjhsdf [08:49] Nirvana: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ [08:50] siefkencp: apt-get install kdm ,I bet, no hunting [08:50] Lynoure: i dont know man... i just roll with what i got... today im runnin kde [08:50] rsync -a -B=524288 -e ssh source:/file destination [08:50] v3ctor: How about saving that block to a usb stick and taking it to another computer? === crazy_penguin [n=okidoki@dyn-89.136.52.248.tm.upcnet.ro] has joined #kubuntu [08:50] siefkencp: :) [08:50] v3ctor: will that do it? [08:50] it makes no dif... its not like i ever log out or restart the thing [08:50] siefkencp: woman, I understand completely :) [08:51] Seantater: give me a sec to test [08:51] new user did not work [08:51] you callin me a woman? lol? [08:51] same problem as my regular account [08:52] v3ctor: hum -- let me look at that and make sure you know my problem.. I'm not sure I phrased it right.. === Fig0^Breezy [n=NightFig@p5486D24F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:52] hehe oky lets see what the Kubuntu from the LinuxTag 2006 can ;) do for me ;) [08:52] how can i see my what videodriver I have? [08:52] i suspect that that is to blame [08:52] that or KDE [08:53] Seantater: works here [08:53] v3ctor: I've got 1/2 gazillion files to move from comp a to comp b, and I can the files on either from the opposite, but the net is too slow for transfer, so I want to use a USB memory stick.. [08:53] may want to check on the size i put though..my math sucks [08:53] if it were a vid driver... it wouldnt just boot you back to kde... i dont suspect [08:53] Icke: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver [08:53] how do i convince firefox to use the mozilla-mplayer plugin? [08:53] v3ctor: if that will do it, I'm game! [08:53] instead of totem-mozilla? [08:54] i don't think it's your video driver Icke [08:54] hmm now it hangs by Mounting root file systems ... [08:54] if you are in graphical mode then your video driver works [08:54] yeah [08:54] my arguement as well === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:55] so you reckon its kde? [08:56] hard to say [08:56] the user you newly created has the same problem ? [08:56] yes [08:57] v3ctor: so in that case, I replace the source/dest with a folder and the take the usb stick, and cp it into the actual dest.. Okay -- Thanks! [08:57] strange... sorry i can't help you more [08:57] thanks anyway [08:57] ;) [08:57] i have to go now anyway [08:57] good luck :) [08:59] Logs might have had something === NEOelder [n=NEOelder@a83-132-246-159.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #kubuntu === pedro_ [n=pedro@a213-22-216-178.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #kubuntu === _JP [n=jaxr@dsl-tregw3-fe44df00-130.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === thorsten [n=thorsten@dslb-082-083-056-067.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:02] algum me sabe dizer onde posso sakar a verso DVD? j sakei dos servidores indicados no site duas vezes mas sempre que tento instalar no VMware d erro num dos ficheiros... === XVampireX [n=sergey@82.166.97.74] has joined #kubuntu [09:04] sorry! [09:04] NEOelder: sorry, cannot understand more the DVD and VMware :/ [09:05] haven't notice this was in english [09:05] i think "ficheiros" means "file" === Midspeed [n=root@S01060011115375fa.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === GeorLi is now known as bitchchecker [09:06] where can I find the DVD version??? I have already downloaded from the site server... but there is always an error in one of the files!!! === _s3B4s_ [n=jorge@201-1-117-207.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu [09:07] I've triyed to install it on VMware but cont move on because of an error with one of the files..... === Bartsk8 [n=meuwa@d83-179-206-148.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #kubuntu [09:07] Bonjour tlm =] === Midspeed [n=root@S01060011115375fa.ed.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === thorsten [n=thorsten@dslb-082-083-056-067.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === artur [n=artur@213.216.77.130] has joined #kubuntu === artur [n=artur@213.216.77.130] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === pedro_ is now known as eupedro === Terminus [n=justin@210.213.131.13] has joined #kubuntu === VRWarper [n=VRWarper@cpe-24-90-214-144.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === eupedro [n=pedro@a213-22-216-178.cpe.netcabo.pt] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === pedro_ [n=pedro@a213-22-216-178.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #kubuntu === pedro_ is now known as eupedro === kuba [n=kuba@80.48.242.195] has joined #kubuntu [09:17] !fr [09:17] Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu === heady [n=heady@158.195.96.4] has joined #kubuntu [09:19] hi there, how to make gmail-notify to start up and log in after logging in to kubuntu ?? === pedro_ [n=eupedro@a213-22-216-178.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #kubuntu === rosex [n=rosex@81-236-210-236-no28.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === kuba is now known as psychoaktiff === cc-dash__ [n=tom@i577AED10.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:26] heady: look in the /use/share/autostart folder [09:26] heady: that would be /usr/share/Autostart actually. === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-23-142163031236.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === dnkidjit [n=ftg2@cm-24-121-34-241.flagstaff.az.npgco.com] has joined #kubuntu === admrl [n=admrl@amarok/artist/admrl] has joined #kubuntu [09:32] aint there an autostart in .kde somewhere? [09:32] yes [09:32] Anyone knows what is needed outside of echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward for address forwarding? [09:33] ~/.kde/Autostart === rosex [n=rosex@81-236-210-236-no28.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === KDEfanboy [n=hkhiuh@24-56-162-213.nm.warpdriveonline.com] has joined #kubuntu === szala [n=szala@adsl-59841a11.monradsl.monornet.hu] has joined #kubuntu [09:44] Salut [09:45] J'ai ce problme : checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! [09:45] Quelqu'un pourrait m'aider? [09:46] Bartsk8: try typing the following into a terminal: [09:46] Bartsk8: apt-get install xorg-dev [09:46] root@breezy:/home/meuwa/Desktop# sudo apt-get install xorg-dev [09:46] Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait [09:46] Construction de l'arbre des dpendances... Fait [09:46] E: Impossible de trouver le paquet xorg-dev === OwlNoob [n=alex@car75-6-82-238-42-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:47] Bartsk8: then do this: [09:47] Bartsk8: apt-get install x-dev [09:48] root@breezy:/home/meuwa/Desktop# sudo apt-get install x-dev [09:48] Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait [09:48] Construction de l'arbre des dpendances... Fait [09:48] Aucune version du paquet x-dev n'est disponible, mais il existe dans la base [09:48] de donnes. Cela signifie en gnral que le paquet est manquant, qu'il est devenu obsolte === tomakoz [n=tomakoz@aczm73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [09:48] ou qu'il n'est disponible que sur une autre source [09:48] E: Aucun paquet ne correspond au paquet x-dev [09:48] root@breezy:/home/meuwa/Desktop# [09:49] Still nothing === tomakoz [n=tomakoz@aczm73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:49] if kubuntu be installed over an existing linux partition that has a directory, say /myfiles, will it install onto it without modifying/removing anything in there? ..for either versions 5.10 or 7 === tomakoz [n=tomakoz@aczm73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [09:49] Bartsk8: okay -- try this and then either of the above suggested commands: [09:49] apt-get update [09:50] It's already done === tomakoz [n=tomakoz@aczm73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:50] ..and does any version have a graphical (not ncurses) installer? === Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #KUbuntu ["Konversation] === Mr_Grieves [n=david@c-68-52-2-197.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:51] I don't understand the question :/ [09:51] KDEfanboy: you want to install kubuntu with a GUI? just use the Live CD, it has an Installer now.. It's called Expresso === Mr_Grieves [n=david@c-68-52-2-197.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [09:51] Bartsk8: KDEfanboy was not personally asking you.. [09:51] Seantater -> When I try to install xlibs-deb from Adept === I_Eat_Plastic [n=I_Eat_Pl@pool-72-64-106-53.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:52] I've a message which say that the pacjage is break [09:52] Bartsk8: ah-ha! [09:52] Bartsk8: that whoudl do it.. [09:52] Seantater: yeah that's perfect - it's nice to use the computer while installing. is that in 5.10? [09:52] I mean would, bot whoudl [09:52] For xlibs-dev and every all packages who are around x [09:52] KDEfanboy: nope, only 6.06 [09:52] Is there any solution? [09:53] oh [09:53] Bartsk8: what does apt-get install say [09:53] With wich cmd ? [09:53] Bartsk8: let me rephrase that: what does this command say "apt-get install", with no quotes [09:53] apt-get xlibs-dev ? [09:53] Bartsk8: just don;t give it anything to install. [09:53] Ok [09:54] I send you in pv === dodger81 [n=dodger@p54B1C680.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === OdyXydO is now known as OdyX === sheldonc [n=sheldon@208-98-198-49.cable.dynamic.sunwave.net] has joined #kubuntu === johnflux_ is now known as JohnFlux === OwlNoob [n=alex@car75-6-82-238-42-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === mmport81 [n=john@213-202-181-164.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:01] hi === kebabkarli [n=sac@21-185-stud-adsl.wu-wien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu [10:01] i just installed win32codecs === dodger81 [n=dodger@p54B1C680.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:02] but kaboodle or kaffeine doesn't pick them up [10:02] i used freecontrib.org repository === ninHer [n=ninHer@36.Red-88-9-92.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:02] any ideas? === _black [n=black@host156-174.pool8253.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [10:02] mmport81: i think i had a problem like that once.. i remember having to load xine and then setup win32codecs in there [10:02] hi all === _black is now known as Black_Codec [10:03] then i took the config file that it wrote, [10:03] Hi all. just installed gnunet by apt and open ports and still not get any connexions... Any successes here? [10:03] hi [10:03] and put it where the config file is for kaffeine... something like $KDEHOME/share/config/kaffiene/ [10:03] somebody speak italian here? [10:03] or something [10:03] eek [10:03] i did on my last setup no probs at all... [10:04] mmport81: yeah.. kaffeine had its own copy of xine config file. it didn't use the one in .xine [10:04] how to select text in shell with keyboard ??? [10:04] Hi, somebody speak italian? === rordonez [n=rordonez@c92590b5.virtua.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [10:05] mmport81: this was a while back.. does kaffeine have a place to setup win32codecs directory in its configuration nowadays? [10:05] i'll have a quick look [10:06] last time i insalled it on breezy i hadn't any probs... [10:06] i hate when that happens [10:06] lol [10:08] i wasn't using kubuntu though.. just remembering how i fixed that for me on gentoo [10:09] oh i'm too damn tired for fixing this stuff... will leave it for another day [10:09] thx for the help tho kdefanboy!! [10:09] np [10:09] hello ... my friends ! i need to play mp3, but i have an error ... "gstreamer error" ! === mmport81 [n=john@213-202-181-164.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === murfy [n=murfy@57.84-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu === kebabkarli is now known as roedel === zorgluuu [n=jerome@148.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === rordonez [n=rordonez@c92590b5.virtua.com.br] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:12] rordonez: do you have the codecs installed? [10:13] if your new, try easyubuntu [10:13] !easyubuntu === oofus [n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === Kadran [n=mohammed@196.218.78.231] has joined #kubuntu === roconnor [n=roconnor@i129246.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:21] is it possibel to add a menue item to the right click menue ? I want to habe a Open Terminal entry there .. === roedel [n=sac@21-185-stud-adsl.wu-wien.ac.at] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === stuq [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === ninHer [n=ninHer@36.Red-88-9-92.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:25] skipjack: in Konqueror? === bitchchecker is now known as GeorLi [10:25] KDEfanboy, no kde desktop .. === Hoobly [n=Hoobly@216-80-120-105.prs-bsr1.chi-prs.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:28] skipjack, thats konqueror [10:29] yes who can I change the menue? whithout making a personal new menue ? I want to have the old entries already i the menue .. [10:29] q. how can i configure xchat to launch konqueror and not firefox ? [10:29] trying to get Evolution to work with Exchange. Does my Win23K server with Exchange23K have to have anything special installed? === tschentz [n=tschentz@dslb-084-058-143-229.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:30] skipjack: hmm well if you mean right click on the desktop, you can setup a custom menu for a mouse button. in kcontrol -> Behavior -> Mouse Button Actions -> and set it to Custom Menu, edit it [10:31] yes oky I will see ;) [10:32] is dapper drake 6 when I do apt-get upgrade running with kde4? because I think it downloading some things with a 4 .. ? [10:33] Qt: 3.3.6 [10:33] KDE: 3.5.2 [10:33] KDesktop: 3.5.2 [10:33] i don't think so... [10:33] this is dapper drake [10:34] and kde 4 is not finished yet as far as i know === nettogrof [i=nettogro@pdpc/supporter/active/nettogrof] has joined #kubuntu === frepe [n=frepe@c-201f72d5.022-205-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [10:35] KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment software, which is planned to be released in early 2007. from :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE4 [10:37] i think skipkack means a context menu [10:37] you can always put a link to application on yer desktop === StFS [n=stefan@194-144-6-113.du.xdsl.is] has joined #kubuntu [10:38] to konsole, and then in konqueror, when you are in a dir, you go to toos, show terminal emulator, and one pops up === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu === HymnToLife [n=fkraiem@dyn-213-36-161-201.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu [10:38] Woot, I just realized how much awesome KDE4 will be [10:38] or just hit F4 [10:38] hi... I'm having problems with gamin (file monitoring thingy) eating up a lot of CPU... anyone else been through this? Is there a solution? [10:38] fiwth default keybinds [10:39] anyone know how to check mail from exchange server with Evolution? [10:41] there's a special connector for that purpose, i believe [10:43] in ubuntu it is already installed... you can use the account assistant... there you have the option to choose exchange server,.... === VRWarper [n=VRWarper@cpe-24-90-214-144.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:44] colo: is it the evolution-exchange package in adept? If so, I have that installed === Marrs [n=marrs@planetmarrs.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:44] no error messages, but when configuring an account in Evolution for use with the Exchange server, I cannot proceed after entering the username [10:45] dunno, i'm 100% proprietary-software-free ;) === kings [n=kings@dr4g0nn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [10:45] It seems KDE4 will have its own IM program === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@87-194-63-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [10:45] what's the name? [10:45] no idea [10:45] kopete is the "official" im client i thot [10:46] http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/01/12/kde4.html?page=1 === pyluyten [n=buddho@dan75-3-82-227-61-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:46] scheduled for greater integration into the rest [10:46] Hello, noob here :( I just tried Kunbutu for the first time LiveDVD not bad so far. I was wondering how can I get mIRC to work? I heard somethign called WINE? === ubuntu is now known as Darkness === Darkness is now known as Darkness123 [10:46] "John Littler: The new features I remember include a bucketload of bug fixes, a universal messaging client, and a big cleanup of the GUI. Are there more things that you should mention" === _marc [n=marc@80.178.176.160.adsl.012.net.il] has joined #kubuntu [10:46] <_marc> hi [10:46] ubuntu: you don't need mIRC, this is IRC, and just like it [10:46] <_marc> i need to "exit x" [10:47] pussfeller - some good linux irc client exist ! [10:47] Cab I use mIRC Scripts ? [10:47] <_marc> to install nvidia's drivers [10:47] or SysReset ? [10:47] Darkness123: Why don't you rather use xchat or konversation? [10:47] <_marc> ctrl - alt -backspace just restarts x rather than exit it [10:47] <_marc> to commandline [10:47] _marc: ctrl alt backspace [10:47] <_marc> any idea? [10:47] <_marc> Nirvana: it wont exit it, it'll just restart it [10:47] I think my PC is going faster.... ? [10:48] marc: You can't exit X [10:48] <_marc> but i have to [10:48] _marc: why do you need to exit? vid drivers? [10:48] ubuntu, once wine is set up, you should just ckick on the mirc.exe if its going to work without a bunch of tweaking which is beyond my power to explain at this point [10:48] <_marc> in order to install the nvidia drivers [10:48] <_marc> for the gpu [10:48] You need ctrl alt backspace [10:48] Since I am on LiveDVD if I make shortcuts on the Desktop will it remember for the next time ? [10:48] sudo /etc/init.d/kde restart [10:48] <_marc> ctrl-alt-backspace wont exit it, it'll just restart it [10:48] There's no such thing as exiting exiting x [10:48] err, kdm restart [10:49] If you don't know what X is... [10:49] _marc: IIRC you just go to Ctrl + Alt + F1, login, type what the guide says to, and then restart X === AxlFoley [n=AxlFoley@pD954C948.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:49] exiting x wont stop kdm [10:49] <_marc> what would ctrl-alt-f1 do [10:49] restart it, after you type what the guide says of course [10:49] it = Xorg [10:49] and kdm needs to be stoped to reread the new xorg.conf adnd use new drivers [10:49] <_marc> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing. [10:50] Exiting X would mean restarting it === AxlFoley [n=AxlFoley@pD954C948.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Verlassend"] [10:50] no, it would go back to kdm login screen :) [10:50] Cool the taskbar goes :D === jind [n=ruben@dsl249-249.adsl.no] has joined #kubuntu [10:50] Which is what ctrl alt backspace does [10:50] XVampireX: of course you can "exit X", that is, to stop it from running [10:50] Main reason I wanna try Linux is I read its good and Vista I do not have the money to buy new MB and CPU and AGP [10:50] <_marc> XVampireX: restarts kde/x/whatever [10:50] _marc: press ctrl-alt-f1 to go to a console, then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop [10:50] <_marc> so any idea? [10:51] or gdm, if you're using gnome [10:51] <_marc> kde, kubutu that is [10:51] marc I know that it restarts X === jaime [n=jaime@67.70.18.225] has joined #kubuntu [10:51] <_marc> iNiku: and after im done, how would i bring it all up? [10:51] _marc: /etc/init.d/kdm start [10:51] or gdm for gnome [10:51] <_marc> aight [10:51] <_marc> thanks alot === kkathman [n=kkathman@71.123.131.178] has joined #kubuntu [10:51] XVampireX: it's the display manager (kdm or gdm) that restarts X when it dies [10:52] don't worry, noones else is going to buy vista either [10:52] I know [10:52] display manager lies on top of X [10:52] So if you stop X, you stop the KDM [10:52] XVampireX: wrong, the display manager in fact starts up X [10:52] and starts it up again if it dies. [10:52] Yeah right :P [10:52] heh, this is a pointless arguement :) [10:52] that's how it works. [10:53] Fine :P [10:53] what's pointless is telling somebody they cannot "exit X" [10:54] my X is better than your X [10:55] my y is better than your y [10:55] my x is a hottie [10:55] iNiku: actually... the display manager is just the graphical interface... the SCRIPT '/etc/inet.d/kdm' contains information to start and stop X ... X starts itself when its told by said script, ?DM starts itself when its told by said script [10:55] iNiku: incase you really want to get technical === __marc__ [n=marc@80.178.176.160.adsl.012.net.il] has joined #kubuntu [10:56] <__marc__> sigh didnt go so well [10:56] iNiku: other than the fact that /etc/inet.d/kdm is part of the 'kdm' package... it has very little to do with kdm... and is infact not even part of the upstream package [10:56] <__marc__> gcc is missing ^_^ [10:57] <__marc__> bash: gcc: command not found [10:57] !gcc [10:57] gcc is probably the GNU project C and C++ compiler. From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc. You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' [10:57] <__marc__> bash: cc: command not found [10:57] __dennis: apt-get install built-essential [10:57] Can I install WINE if I am using LiveDVD ? [10:57] but, gcc isn't a command is it? [10:57] Darness123: yes [10:57] !wine [10:57] <__marc__> its a c compiler [10:57] lunitik: huh? /etC/init.d/kdm is an init script that's used to start kdm when the system boots up. I have no idea what /etc/inet.d/kdm might be. === nils2 [n=nils2@cpc2-stap3-0-0-cust378.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:57] __marc__: apt-get install build-essential [10:57] !Wine [10:57] don't know if it works with caps [10:57] but it works lowercase [10:58] An internet doc said to 'export DISPLAY' with 127.0.0.1:0 value. Has exporting display with such a value a sense ? i am not a technician : ) [10:58] iNiku: again trying to be technical... /etc/init.d/kdm is NOT part of upstream kdm... it is infact a Debian specific hack. [10:59] hence why debian rock [10:59] rocks^ [10:59] lunitik: I'm not sure what you're trying to say [11:00] but the X server is in fact started by kdm [11:00] <__marc__> lunitik: awesome, thanks [11:00] or whatever display manager yo uuse [11:00] Cool it asked me to terminate a nonworking window. lol [11:00] /etc/init.d/kdm start gets run at boot time to start kdm [11:00] and kdm will start the X server and will keep restarting it if it dies [11:01] is there a quick way to hammer mp3-support into amarok on a live-system? [11:01] so if you want to stop X from running, you need to stop the display manager from running. [11:02] colo: if you apt-get install xmms it's prolly quicker [11:02] i'd like to test afew of amarok's preconfigured streams [11:02] oh [11:02] but they seem to stream mp3 instead of vorbis === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu [11:02] except that video-game-ost one [11:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-a57167a3ce442dc52d9b05e46a14503330d4e970 [11:03] but that's not the kind of stuff i'm in the mood for right now ;) [11:03] colo ^^ [11:03] i see, so it's in external repos === _marc_ [n=marc@80.178.176.160.adsl.012.net.il] has joined #kubuntu === andre_ [n=andre@CPE001310ad6f29-CM001404b5ba98.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:03] <_marc_> argh [11:04] <_marc_> me again ^_^ [11:04] <_marc_> i need the kernel's source files [11:04] flight 7 is released, right? [11:04] !flight7 [11:04] it has been said that flight7 is available via http://www.ubuntu.com/testing [11:04] <_marc_> or at least thats what nvidia wants [11:04] Nirvana: Thanks === TobSiCret [n=tobias@hnvr-d9b8eb87.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:05] <_marc_> anyone? [11:05] _marc_: you do need kernel source files I think [11:05] is there a Kubuntu variant of flight 7? [11:05] <_marc_> Nirvana: how do i get them? [11:06] what type of computer do you have? [11:06] <_marc_> as in processor? amd athlon64 [11:06] <_marc_> ive got a good one [11:07] Nirvana: i386 [11:07] <_marc_> amd64 for me [11:07] Nirvana: sorry -- you were not asking me.. [11:07] <_marc_> Seantater: ^_^ [11:08] xine-extracodecs did it :) [11:08] fine [11:08] let's listen to something other than my local collection [11:08] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/ [11:09] _marc_: what type computer? [11:09] Seantater: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/ [11:09] <_marc_> Nirvana: as in what === h3sp4wn [n=samw@82.3.197.7] has joined #kubuntu [11:09] i386, amd64, mac [11:09] <_marc_> amd64 [11:09] ok [11:10] good thing I know AMD64 like the back of my hand [11:10] i'm running flight7 for amd64 right now [11:10] for about 2 days or so [11:10] <_marc_> i guess im going to switch the hdds back [11:10] <_marc_> and boot windows up [11:10] <_marc_> lol === Snake__ [n=Snake@unaffiliated/snake/x-17964] has joined #kubuntu [11:10] without problems :) [11:11] _marc_: I found it! [11:11] <_marc_> did you? [11:11] _marc_: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7 [11:11] I think [11:12] <_marc_> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-k7 [11:12] Kubuntu 6.06? [11:13] <_marc_> 5.10 i believe [11:13] oh [11:13] one sec === stoft [n=stoft@81-208-36-90.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #kubuntu [11:13] is it possible to install Dapper on an existing partition and preserve the files already on there? [11:14] KDEfanboy: no, but you can update instead.. [11:14] KDEfanboy: it will give you what you are looking for === oktawian [n=oktawian@eon100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [11:14] _marc_: do you have extra repos enabled? [11:14] <_marc_> an extra what? === dbdkmezz [n=mezz@82-36-97-183.cable.ubr01.king.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:15] Seantater: well I want to migrate from gentoo to kubuntu but keep user files.. maybe 5.10 can? === oofus [n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:16] _marc_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28enable%29%7C%28extra%29%7C%28repositories%29 [11:16] KDEfanboy: I'm afraid you can't do that except backing up files and then putting them back [11:16] _marc_: specific part of the page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto#head-3af7264a0e97edbc5bf039e5bdb971f46c43269a === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FFF83.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:17] <_marc_> i understand nothing there [11:17] <_marc_> i dont even have the menus it refers to [11:18] did you read the kubuntu part? with adept? [11:18] <_marc_> it cannot find adept [11:18] it should be in the K menu under system [11:18] <_marc_> kynaptic is the closest name [11:18] How do you open Folders? [11:19] open the konsole and type apt-get install adept [11:19] Darkness123: click on them [11:19] <_marc_> E: Couldn't find package adept === kwtm [n=kwtm1@adsl-63-199-240-239.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:19] Oh Konqurer opens them. [11:20] _marc_: follow this guide then: http://psychocats.net/linux/sources.php scroll down to Breezy (5.10) === tschentz [n=tschentz@dslb-084-058-143-229.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === VRWarper [n=VRWarper@cpe-24-90-214-144.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:22] Isn't there a website for newbies ? === imonkey [n=imonkey@unaffiliated/imonkey] has joined #kubuntu [11:24] Darkness123: install desktop-guide === psychoaktiff [n=kuba@80.48.242.195] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:24] <_marc_> Nirvana: done, im after the apt-get update part [11:24] Darkness123: ubuntuforums.org, kubuntuforums.net, http://kudos.berlios.de/, desktop-guide, kubuntu-docs [11:25] _marc_: after apt-get update, you apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7 and hope to god I spelt restricted right [11:25] <_marc_> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-k7 [11:25] <_marc_> im out of here [11:25] <_marc_> gonna hook the windows hdd back [11:25] lol [11:25] OK then [11:25] <_marc_> and retry this later [11:25] <_marc_> thanks alot for your time man [11:26] no problem [11:26] in that case === Nirvana eats dinner === Pupeno [n=Pupeno@ATuileries-153-1-55-211.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [11:28] Hello. [11:28] KSCD shows the CDDB information but audiocd stopped doing so, any ideas what might be the problem ? [11:28] I've tried various CDs with no luck. [11:30] Did Kscd merged to "freedb" ? [11:30] pyluyten: when I start kscd it says loading freedb, but I think I know what's the problem. [11:30] Thank you. [11:31] s/loading/quering/ === _ado [n=ado@adsl-d121.87-197-198.telecom.sk] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] scratch the eating dinner part === OdyX [n=Didier@80.33.64.8] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] q. im trying to install the flash player plugin, where should i put it to get konqueror to find it ? [11:34] you can put it anywhere, as long as you add that folder to the netscape plugin section of Konqueror settings [11:34] sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree === evert [n=evert@100.31-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu [11:35] hello all , i just installed kubuntu dapper drake on my pc ... but when i wanna install software (with adept) i get an error [11:36] when starting adept : teh apt database could not be openeld ! this may be caused by incorrect apt configuration or some simular problem. [11:36] how can i solve this pls ? [11:36] it's a clean install , just finished 2 minutes ago [11:36] which version? [11:36] if dapper [11:36] 6.06 beta 2 [11:36] then upgrade [11:36] yeah [11:36] known bug [11:36] the upgrade ? [11:36] I got it too [11:37] that's 250Mb [11:37] sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [11:37] evert: should jigdo'd your iso to flight 7 :P === evert is now known as evert_ [11:37] actually [11:38] evert: just upgrade adept [11:38] ok === TobSiCret [n=tobias@hnvr-d9b8eb87.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === pukyxd [n=pukyxd@219.Red-81-34-56.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:39] you can use aptitude to aid you in this if you need something better than a flat command line (though aptitude is a command line apt frontend) === puckman [n=gerard@dyn-62-56-68-155.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === puckman thinks the kubuntu guys ROCK === Snake__ [n=Snake@unaffiliated/snake/x-17964] has joined #kubuntu === epinefrin [i=geek@82-37-152-150.cable.ubr01.wals.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === puckman just installed flight 7 and found that the little things that did not work in 6 are now fixed ^_^ === spiritz [n=spiritz@61.12.47.21] has joined #kubuntu === rosex [n=rosex@81-236-210-236-no28.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === Snake__ [n=Snake@unaffiliated/snake/x-17964] has joined #kubuntu === spikeb [n=spikeb@207-118-209-65.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu === dan [n=dan@rue92-4-82-236-4-23.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Snake__ [n=Snake@unaffiliated/snake/x-17964] has joined #kubuntu === VRWarper [n=VRWarper@cpe-24-90-214-144.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === firephoto_ [n=tom@71.115.213.49] has joined #kubuntu === mitre [n=mitre@201.36.174.2] has joined #kubuntu [12:02] Hello! Anyone with experiences with irda and kubuntu? How could I download the images from my mobile phone? (No bluetooth.) === mitre [n=mitre@201.36.174.2] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]