=== mpt [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:58] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2006-May/000192.html [02:58] Ubuntu-au Dcoumentation Project ^ [02:58] s/Dcoumentation/Documentation [02:59] not sure if this is worth worrying about, but some of you might be interested (disclaimer: I have nothing to do with it) [03:23] we might also ask Kaiser about it! [03:26] yeah I guess, is he part of the au loco team? === theCore [n=alex@70.55.132.66] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:28] yeah, i'll ping him when i see him [03:29] if i see the screen anymore, i'll got blind :) [03:29] later all! [03:29] bye robotgeek === theCore_ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4205980.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@S0106001150603f7d.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore__ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4205725.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Taim [n=taim@27.nwkn2.xdsl.nauticom.net] has joined #Ubuntu-Doc === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-8-7.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === vmadmin [n=vmadmin@4096.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:22] helllo [08:22] I like to submit a doc to the wiki [08:22] hi vmadmin [08:22] Madpilot: hi [08:24] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiTeam [08:24] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiGuide [08:24] vmadmin, have a look at those two URLs, for starters ^^^ [08:25] Madpilot: i am going away for a week or so tomorrow evening so hope to get it up by then wil look at what you suggested [08:25] make sure you're not duplicating information that's already on the wiki when you're adding new stuff - aside from that, go nuts [08:27] perhaps because I have never sumitted a doc before they will not let me [08:27] the team [08:27] the wiki is open, currently [08:28] if you have an account there, you can create new pages if you want to [08:28] o ok well thats good [08:28] no i will create an account [08:29] top right corner of every page on wiki.ubuntu.com should have a "Log in/Create Account" link [08:29] Madpilot; many thanks [08:30] no problem - always good to see more people getting involved === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:43] Burgundavia, wireless trouble still? [08:44] Madpilot: no, browser crashing due to totem plugin, which takes the entire machine down [08:44] ah, it's a Redmond-style bug! :P === motin [n=motin@81-225-139-6-o1034.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FEBE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:59] hi, anyone from the german translation team around? [09:02] mindspin: you might want to try #ubuntu-de [09:02] I'll try , but its mostly used for support === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FEBE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["SNAFU"] === mpt [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kasina [n=kasina@196.200.37.114] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kasina [n=kasina@196.200.37.114] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:56] did anything ever get resolved about the book being included in the release? [02:57] morning jsgotangco [02:57] jjesse: morning [02:57] or its probally evening for you if i recall correctly [02:57] i dunno..the thread just died [02:57] yeah its almost 9pm [02:57] you are in the phillipines correct? [02:57] yeah [02:57] did you guys send anything in the post? [02:58] i received a postal card about a parcel [02:58] i didn't === jsgotangco would be disappointed if its a bunch of breezy cds [02:58] :D [02:58] probablly just made it [02:59] looking forward to recieving kubuntu 6.10 cds from shipit :) [03:03] oh yeah [03:04] are your chapter/s done already? [03:33] jsgotangco: i have some small changes, change espresso to ubiquity and change livecd to desktop cd === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:11] mdke: ping [05:12] jjesse: hi [05:12] mdke: just forwarded a converstation that jane and i have been having regarding the book and dapper [05:12] right, I'm in the loop already, I think [05:12] cool, i just wanted to update you [05:13] in case you weren't [05:13] yeah, jane sent me that [05:13] ok just trying to keep everyone in the loop :) [05:14] :) [05:14] my problem is just with putting it in the menu [05:14] I think mark is insisting on it [05:14] but i think the help system will lose coherence [05:15] and the absence of translation *really* bugs me [05:15] just read that [05:15] i still insist on having it on CD but not installed by default [05:15] umm in aother email deb from prentince hall is "working on translations" [05:15] for dapper? [05:15] for the ubuntu book [05:16] for same reason that the installation guide is not installed by default either but availble on the CD [05:16] or have ubiquity link to a PDF before it starts i dunno [05:16] I know that Debra is already arranging [05:16] translations [05:16] jsgotangco: they want to pimp up the book, which is understandable [05:16] sure [05:16] but not at the cost of an overlapping help system :( [05:17] that too [05:17] i'd be happy with it in example-content === jsgotangco thinks making it obvious in g-a-i or example content is acceptable [05:17] i think that is where jane is leaning as well, but was asked by sabdfl if a menu option could be created [05:17] yeah, that's right [05:18] i might mail sabdfl [05:18] it'll muck up the help system [05:18] mdke that woud be a great idea [05:18] you'll get 4 entries [05:19] yeah, and there are more worthy candidates for extra entries [05:19] locoteams, irc, forums === Kyral [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:20] speaking of the menu, that help button sure is blurry [05:20] System documentation rather [05:21] yeah, good point === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:38] jjesse: so how does it feel to be in amazon :P === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:17] ciao === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-8-223.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:56] hi, does anybody know how I can use the gnome-doc-utils infrastructure without automake? === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-9-255.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:50] glatzor: you don't need automake to install gnome-doc-utils, afaik, only to compile it [07:50] I would like to use it in gnome-app-install and update-manager. but we use a pyhon based setup.py script there. [07:51] glatzor: ah, I see. hang on [07:52] glatzor: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeDocUtilsMigrationHowTo [07:52] furthermore i havent used xml2po for quite some years. perhaps I need to update my knowledge. [07:52] if that doesn't help, ask in #docs on irc.gnome.org or the gnome-doc-list [07:52] thanks [07:56] mdke: it's only about automake integration. but I can manage the files manually, too. I just wondered if there was also another infrastructure that could be easily used with setup.py. [07:57] glatzor: I don't know, you'll have to ask the gnome docs guys. specifically danilo can help, I suspect === enrico_ [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:04] i will contact him. thanks. [08:16] arggg, I hate email [08:16] why do you hate email ? [08:18] because I'm always worried about people taking what I'm saying the wrong way [08:18] and so I spend forever on these reallly wordy emails [08:18] and then nobody really cares [08:19] me too, i usually save them in drafs and come back and work on them again [08:19] I'm working on a reply to your foward [08:19] oh then i'll care about it :) [08:19] well, I really don't want it to come off as a flame or anything [08:20] flame away i have fire protection :) [08:20] I'm not upset, I'm more worried for the doc team and how they are supposed to deal with the book === mdke is more worried about the help system getting cluttered up and confusing === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:30] mdke: +1 === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-8-223.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === gobbe [n=jauroju@korppi.elma.fi] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:35] mdke: ping? [09:43] bombs away! [09:51] mdke: unping, I think :-) === joebrockmeier [n=jzb@c-67-164-187-12.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lionelp__ [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico|mex [n=enrico@201.160.17.234.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu-doc === claude [n=claude@100.217.186.195.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:28] ping mdke [11:30] claude: he might be in bed now. [11:30] k :-( [11:30] I should too ;-) [11:31] maybe another expert of xml2po here? [11:31] claude: hi [11:31] LaserJock: never! [11:32] hehe [11:32] he he :) [11:32] thanks for the "another expert" thing [11:32] wholly inaccurate, but I like it [11:32] mdke, i want to use xml2po with xhtml [11:32] I read a post on a ML where you talked on this subject with the developer [11:32] I did? ok [11:33] but i didn't find any xhtml module [11:33] I see the email [11:33] did you see danilo's reply? [11:34] yes... [11:34] if you use -a, he says it will work [11:34] is it strict xhtml? [11:34] nope [11:35] Warning: cannot load module 'xhtml', using automatic detection (-a). [11:35] modules are in /usr/share/xml2po [11:35] i think transitional xhtml is going to be problematic [11:35] ls -> docbook.py empty.py gs.py [11:35] there is a specific tool for html->pot, but it only handles strict xhtml, iirc [11:36] and what is it? [11:36] for xml2po, i suppose i should write a module based on empty.py [11:37] but maybe someone already wrote it :-P === claude 's so lazy [11:38] I can't remember what the tool was called for html->pot, but I found it via google. I exchanged some mails with the maintainer about transitional, I remember he said it didn't work well. [11:38] claude: as for xml2po, best to ask danilo about it. [11:38] file a bug on xml2po and he'll get straight back to you [11:39] k, thx