[12:00] <arrick1> gnomefreak, you familiar with burning iso images?
[12:00] <cmpalmer> NoUse: uncommenting 'extension=mysql.so' in php.ini fixed it
[12:00] <zcat[1] > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will go through the whole configuration for you, card drivers, keyboard and mouse, resolutions, monitor timing..
[12:00] <cmpalmer> NoUse: thanks
[12:00] <cmpalmer> !NoUse++
[12:01] <ompaul> arrick1, in gnome point nautilus at the image right click and choose write image - make sure you choose the right burner and you choose a low speed
[12:01] <xanavim> which apps use gstreamer plugins?
[12:01] <arrick1> ompaul, I did that and got a bad image 3 times in a row
[12:01] <HymnToLife> xanavim> totem does by default
[12:01] <HymnToLife> amarok too
[12:01] <Isyth> sounds excellent. I'll get right to it. Thanks!
[12:02] <xanavim> ah, good... amarok hopefully can handle a playlist with 28,000 songs... let's find out...
[12:02] <HymnToLife> arrick1> k3b is your friend :p
[12:02] <mustard5> Isyth, just choose the default settings for any questions you don't know the answers to
[12:02] <Mercutio150> thanks for all the help guys
[12:02] <ralf> Lol, pathetic have you read this article?: http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/linux-european-threat-to-our-computers.html  It makes me angry
[12:02] <ompaul> arrick1, check the image md5sum
[12:02] <arrick1> if only I had a burner on my ubuntu box, this sucks
[12:02] <missing> Isyth: choosing the default answeres will usually work for any installation
[12:02] <missing> i believe it autodetects yoru settings
[12:03] <Isyth> mustard5 & missing, that's what I did when installing the thing in the first place, but apparently something went wrong then?
[12:03] <HymnToLife> ralf> this just CAN't be true
[12:04] <zcat[1] > rofl.. they bith about linux and in the same paragraph praise IBM.. an american company. A Linux company too. .:)
[12:04] <mustard5> Isyth, I'm talking specifically about running the dpkg-reconfigure command ...not the installation of ubuntu
[12:04] <sharper> is there any reason why the flight7 live CD shouldn't work off a USB key drive?
[12:04] <ralf> hymntolife, it's not true it's all bullshit
[12:04] <ralf> Writer is stupid
[12:04] <Isyth> mustard5: I'll just give it a go. Y'all will see me again if I have new problems.
[12:04] <Isyth> See you!
[12:04] <squiddle> does anyone has an idea why my urxvt could stop reading the .Xdefaults?
[12:04] <mustard5> Isyth, k
[12:04] <zcat[1] > it must be a pisstake, nobody could be that dumb.
[12:05] <HymnToLife> ralf> i it's meant to make fun of the American I think it's brilliant
[12:05] <HymnToLife> I just can't imagine it could be serious
[12:05] <ralf> It's stupid
[12:05] <ralf> Read the other posts and oyu see, this shelley is a freakin patriot
[12:06] <zcat[1] > nah, reading through it is totally comedy..
[12:06] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:06] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:06] <ompaul> !language
[12:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:07] <PrimoTurbo> Does anyone have Alacarte for breezy?
[12:07] <Amaranth> PrimoTurbo: Hold.
[12:07] <PrimoTurbo> what I'm asking is if it works?
[12:07] <PrimoTurbo> http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[12:08] <gnomefreak> PrimoTurbo: yes it works great
[12:08] <Amaranth> PrimoTurbo: that's for dapper
[12:08] <Amaranth> PrimoTurbo: you want http://dev.realistanew.com/alacarte/releases/0.8/alacarte_0.8-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[12:08] <PrimoTurbo> I see
[12:08] <PrimoTurbo> thanks
[12:09] <roostishaw> hello, can someone tell me how to copy a dvd to my hard drive in mpeg4 format? thanks
[12:09] <capiCrimm> anyone know how to pass a cookie back to the website in a http header?
[12:09] <zcat[1] > roostishaw: acidrip
[12:10] <roostishaw> zcat[1] ,  sudo apt-get install acidrip?
[12:10] <zcat[1] > you probably need to add plf repos..
[12:10] <zcat[1] > !source-o-matic
[12:10] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:11] <zcat[1] > 'cos ripping a dvd needs libdvdcss2 and a few other things
[12:11] <roostishaw> zcat[1] ,  so... how do i install acidrip to copy the dvd?
[12:11] <zcat[1] > after that, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 acidrip  and you should be good to go
[12:11] <roostishaw> ok, thanks
[12:11] <roostishaw> wait... acidrip from the terminal
[12:11] <roostishaw> ?
[12:12] <calamari> capiCrimm: perhaps #web
[12:12] <zcat[1] > Its a gui tool.. it shows up in the multimedia menu
[12:12] <luisi> miauuuuuuuuuuuu
[12:12] <Belathor> Hi, I just upgraded my kernel to 686. Do I have to remove the 386 kernel? If so, how would I go about it? Thanks!
[12:12] <roostishaw> ok, i think im just gunna try to install it w/o changeing my sources.list first
[12:13] <calamari> Belathor: you don't have to removie it, but you can remove it via synaptic or apt
[12:13] <zcat[1] > Belathor: optional.. just ignore it, they don't take up much space
[12:13] <Belathor> ok, alright. Thanks!
[12:14] <zcat[1] > bah, I added plF repo and I still don't have winetools ;(
[12:14] <calamari> speaking of kernels.. does using a SMP kernel slow me down if I only have one CPU?
[12:14] <robinsw> Guys! :-) What's the command that works like CHMOD, but isn't CHMOD. :-S
[12:14] <crimsun> calamari: negligibly.
[12:14] <robinsw> CH something...
[12:14] <Uhirax> chown
[12:14] <mjr> calamari, a tiny bit
[12:14] <roostishaw> zcat[1] ,  how do i enable plf?
[12:14] <zcat[1] > chattr ?
[12:15] <luisi> miauuuuuuuuu
[12:15] <luisi> miauuuuuuuuuu
[12:15] <luisi> miauuuuuuu
[12:15] <calamari> they don't seem to offer non-SMP kernels in dapper
[12:15] <robinsw> Thanks :)
[12:15] <zcat[1] > roostishaw: go into synaptic..
[12:15] <troytroy> having prob with the cupsys server cant authenticate me to setup printer
[12:15] <crimsun> calamari: that's because our kernel is smrt.
[12:15] <crimsun> calamari: [4294671.045000]  SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
[12:16] <roostishaw> zcat[1] ,  then wut... im at the repos menu
[12:16] <dli> calamari, why not?
[12:16] <troytroy> calamari: ref to me?
[12:16] <zcat[1] > settings, add, custom..
[12:16] <zcat[1] > something I'm going this from memory :)
[12:16] <crimsun> dli: there's no need to. See what I just pasted.
[12:17] <roostishaw> zcat[1] ,  ok, just need the url
[12:17] <zcat[1] > hang on, looking it up :)
[12:17] <roostishaw> zcat[1] ,  nvm, say wut to do next...
[12:17] <roostishaw> zcat[1] ,  ok.
[12:18] <zcat[1] > deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:18] <roostishaw> wut do i do with that?
[12:18] <capiCrimm> roostishaw, put it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:18] <zcat[1] > paste the whole thing into the custom repo dialog..
[12:18] <dli> crimsun, each supported CPU adds  approximately eight kilobytes to the kernel
[12:18] <capiCrimm> or what zcat[1]  said...
[12:18] <roostishaw> ok... one sec
[12:18] <mcf501> does anyone have any experience with OpenGL? i am having an issue with linking to the right files see (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13666) any help would be great thanks (on ubuntu dapper, with mesa installed from source)
[12:19] <crimsun> dli: which is completely negligible
[12:19] <capiCrimm> mcf501, I do, but in ubuntu would probably be a better channel.
[12:19] <crimsun> dli: if 8 KB is an issue, you wouldn't be using our config regardless.
[12:19] <zcat[1] > brb;
[12:19] <dli> crimsun, you can always rebuild the kernel
[12:19] <roostishaw> zcat[1] ,  wait
[12:19] <capiCrimm> mcf501, wait, this is ubuntu... I'm getting my channels mixed up.
[12:19] <roostishaw> zcat[1] ,  now just do sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 acidrip?
[12:19] <elisabeta> OMG
[12:19] <crimsun> dli: yes, I know.
[12:20] <elisabeta> ubuntu f'n sucks
[12:20] <elisabeta> you are all homosexuals
[12:20] <crimsun> elisabeta: leave now.
[12:20] <Reepicheep> how do I use ftp for apt-get instead of http?
[12:20] <elisabeta> lolololololololololololololololololololololololol lllooolll lolol
[12:20] <HIGH-FREQ> thank u crimsun
[12:21] <Aquafina> I am sorry to pop in but does anyone know which channel I shoud join to get some help in fixing a piece of assembly code ?
[12:21] <dli> crimsun, will ubuntu support reiser4fs? looks like ext3 is the default
[12:21] <crimsun> dli: not out of the box.
[12:21] <Reepicheep> are there ubuntu ftp repositories that I can use? I tried replacing http with ftp just to see, but no luck, and can't seem to find it on google
[12:21] <capiCrimm> mcf501, what errors in it giving you when you compile?
[12:21] <mcf501> capiCrimm: i think my makefile is wrong, but im not sure how to fix it.
[12:21] <tap3w0rm> ok my pop in question : useing fire fox got this error 'fd://O' no decoders to handle the stream'
[12:21] <ignite_> using amsg because there is no aquit.. is there? anyway, i gotta sleep, apointment at a college in the morning, w00t for me! :D ilu all o/ <3
[12:22] <capiCrimm> mcf501, past them in pastebin if they're long.
[12:22] <dli> Reepicheep, ask ubotu about easysource
[12:22] <crimsun> dli: ext3 is the default; use expert mode in the text installer to choose another fs.
[12:22] <mcf501> capiCrimm: undefined reference to `glMatrixMode' etc...
[12:22] <mcf501> capiCrimm: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13666
[12:23] <capiCrimm> mcf501, hrm, which packages did you install?
[12:23] <Cruel_dog> I need help
[12:23] <MetaMorfoziS> which program can open *.ai ? (adobe illustrator's vector graphic file?)
[12:23] <Cruel_dog> I'm new to Ubuntu
[12:23] <fiendskull9> MetaMorfoziS, inkscape might
[12:23] <fiendskull9> MetaMorfoziS, sudo apt-get install inkscape
[12:23] <MetaMorfoziS> fiendskull9: no
[12:23] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm tried
[12:24] <capiCrimm> MetaMorfoziS, inkscape or maybe gimp
[12:24] <Cruel_dog> How can you set to modify the starting screen resolution? (its too high, I see lines)
[12:24] <MetaMorfoziS> hm gimp
[12:24] <MetaMorfoziS> i try
[12:24] <mcf501> capiCrimm: well i installed OpenGL and GLUT from the mesa website
[12:24] <mjr> probably not gimp
[12:24] <spikeb> gimp <3
[12:24] <Cruel_dog> How can you set to modify the starting screen resolution? (its too high, I see lines)
[12:25] <tap3w0rm> I <3 gimp
[12:25] <mcf501> capiCrimm: i assumed they came with all the packages i needed
[12:25] <Nihil85> hi all. Which was the command to set the keyboard layer with the terminal?
[12:25] <capiCrimm> Cruel_dog, if starting you mean the CLI, look in /boot/grub/menu.lst and you'll need to search the web for the vga= line to put in there.
[12:25] <Cruel_dog> ?
[12:25] <Cruel_dog> I'm NEW to Ubuntu, and LINUX
[12:25] <MetaMorfoziS> hm gimp
[12:25] <MetaMorfoziS> when i try open with it
[12:25] <vladuz976> does anybody here know how to use GNUplot? how do i unset all settings at once?
[12:25] <MetaMorfoziS> it popups a dialog "Loading postscript"
[12:25] <capiCrimm> mcf501, you might have a better go installing the packages. aptitude search gl
[12:25] <Reepicheep> !easysource
[12:25] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:25] <Cruel_dog> the place where you Login
[12:26] <MetaMorfoziS> ang asks some settinga bout the dimensions etc
[12:26] <federico> hi, I I looking for help for Tvtime..
[12:26] <spikeb> let me see what i can find
[12:26] <capiCrimm> mcf501, if you install them they should 99% of the time set everything up in working condition for you.
[12:26] <MetaMorfoziS> but after that : "The plugin can't load the image"
[12:26] <Cruel_dog> How can you set to modify the starting screen resolution? (its too high, I see lines)
[12:26] <federico> can someone help me?
[12:26] <Cruel_dog> the place where you Login
[12:26] <capiCrimm> Cruel_dog, everyone has heard your question already.
[12:26] <Cruel_dog> sorry...
[12:27] <mcf501> capiCrimm: well i installed OpenGL and GLUT from the mesa website
[12:27] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[12:27] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[12:27] <spikeb> Cruel_dog: after you log in, you can change it - doesn't that help?
[12:27] <benji_123456789> anyone know any decent DC hubs?
[12:27] <Cruel_dog> just, that I don't see the page, IO only see Lines when showing the login menu
[12:27] <Cruel_dog> yes
[12:27] <Cruel_dog> but
[12:27] <Cruel_dog> it no work
[12:27] <mcf501> capiCrimm: ^sorry about that, it seems i have two versions of opengl..
[12:27] <troytroy> i am having prob with the cupsys server cant authenticate me to setup printer
[12:27] <Cruel_dog> it change for the session only
[12:27] <Cruel_dog> i can't still see the login menu
[12:27] <gnomefreak> troytroy: on dapper?
[12:27] <capiCrimm> Cruel_dog, when your in that screen hit CTRL-ALT F1 and login.
[12:27] <dli> Cruel_dog, don't use enter as comma
[12:27] <spikeb> hmm
[12:28] <Cruel_dog> ?
[12:28] <Cruel_dog> enter as cmma???
[12:28] <Cruel_dog> comma**
[12:28] <benji_123456789> anyone know any Direct connect hubs?
[12:28] <zcat[1] > Cruel_dog: reconfigure xorg to do only resolutions your monitor can handle.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:28] <capiCrimm> Cruel_dog, you'll need to depk-reconfigure xorg and go through the menu.
[12:28] <gnomefreak> !enter
[12:28] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:28] <troytroy> gnomefreak: yes
[12:28] <mcf501> capiCrimm: libglu1-mesa and mesa 6.4.2, they could be clashing..
[12:28] <Cruel_dog> how to do that?
[12:28] <capiCrimm> correction, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg"
[12:29] <gnomefreak> troytroy: keep it in #ubuntu+1 its a dapper issue
[12:29] <dabaR> cafuego: ping
[12:29] <dli> capiCrimm, isn't it xserver-xorg?
[12:29] <zcat[1] > Cruel_dog: ctrl-alt-F1 and log in.
[12:29] <capiCrimm> mcf501, then uninstall the ones from mesa, the packages are a much better option.
[12:29] <Cruel_dog> k
[12:29] <the_mug> how do I install a *.deb package?
[12:29] <zcat[1] > then type   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:29] <Cruel_dog> lemme reboot PC
[12:29] <gnomefreak> troytroy: there are also many bugs on cuysys
[12:29] <capiCrimm> dli, your correct. Cruel_dog follow replace xorg with xserver-xorg
[12:29] <gnomefreak> the_mug: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[12:29] <the_mug> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:29] <dli> the_mug, you can use dpkg to install deb, but you need apt-get/synaptic instead, most likely
[12:29] <gnomefreak> the_mug: yw
[12:30] <troytroy> calamari: bugs?
[12:30] <mcf501> capiCrimm: the problem is i need to be using the same packages as the ones at my uni, (well i doubt it would make much difference) but the code needs to be portable
[12:30] <capiCrimm> gnomefreak, wasn't ubuntu planning an extension where you could click the .deb and it would install?
[12:30] <Nihil_85> LinuxJones, are you here?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> capiCrimm: yes but its not in breezy afaik
[12:30] <zcat[1] > that would suck.. ppl will start sending linux viruses as deps and morons will click them.
[12:30] <troytroy> calamari: and if i try to remove it ubuntu-desktop also will remove
[12:31] <zcat[1] > *debs
[12:31] <Sammy77> Hello, I used ndiswrapper to install drivers for my Wireless-G network card. When I do ndiswrapper -l it says "driver is present, hardware present" Problem is that it doesn't show up anywhere...
[12:31] <capiCrimm> mcf501, hrm. linking is my weakness.
[12:31] <benji_123456789> someones gotta know a direct connect hub
[12:31] <benji_123456789> ????
[12:31] <capiCrimm> mcf501, and that seems to be your problem.
[12:31] <Reepicheep> dli, I can't find any ftp repositories on easysource, it only seems to give me http
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop is able to be removed
[12:31] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[12:31] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading
[12:31] <the_mug> dli: I'm not using synaptic.. all command line for me :-)
[12:31] <mcf501> capiCrimm: i'll read up on linking
[12:31] <the_mug> dli: at most aptitude
[12:31] <gnomefreak> the_mug: what are you installing?
[12:32] <the_mug> skype
[12:32] <capiCrimm> mcf501, good luck. :p
[12:32] <gnomefreak> the_mug: use teh command i gave you
[12:32] <the_mug> :: running ::
[12:32] <Sammy77> Does anyone know how to enable the driver or something?
[12:32] <dave> new to ubuntu; can someone suggest a cad/cam program for Brezzy?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell the_mug about skype
[12:32] <gnomefreak> the_mug: also read your pm for more help
[12:32] <the_mug> gnomefreak: it's running now :-)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> Sammy77: what are you trying to do?
[12:33] <the_mug> thanks again
[12:33] <dli> Reepicheep, that's weird? check synaptic config? debian provides official ftp repo, maybe, you can use debian instead
[12:33] <gnomefreak> the_mug: yw
[12:33] <ru> hi guys
[12:33] <capiCrimm> mcf501, do you know where the files are installed?
[12:33] <Sammy77> gnomefreak: I used ndiswrapper to install my wireless card driver. I just need to know what to do now...It says it installed it alright but it doesn't show up anywhere
[12:33] <ru> how would I mount a drive automatically on boot?
[12:33] <ru> I dislike doing it each time the box loads up
[12:33] <dli> ru, put it in /etc/fstab
[12:34] <Cruel_dog> I'm back
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Sammy77 -about ndiswrapper
[12:34] <mcf501> capiCrimm: i'll read up on linking
[12:34] <dli> Cruel_dog, no need to report :(
[12:34] <mcf501> capiCrimm: i think so, not 100% sure
[12:34] <Cruel_dog> ctrl-alt-f is command prompt...
[12:34] <zcat[1] > last time I tried ndizwrapper, I ended up with no working card AND a highly unstable machine. binary drivers in any form suck, find a more linux friendly card and sell the windows-only crap on ebay..
[12:34] <Cruel_dog> so
[12:34] <mcf501> capiCrimm: where are the package files installed?
[12:34] <capiCrimm> mcf501,k, you may want to try #c++ and #opengl
[12:34] <ru> dli: thanks
[12:34] <Cruel_dog> whats the command to reconfigure the resolution?
[12:34] <paradizelost> hey all, can anyone tell me where the hpa-tftpd log file is stored?
[12:34] <Sammy77> gnomefreak: Ndiswrapper has always worked fine for me on other distros. I just dont know why its not showing up here
[12:34] <mcf501> capiCrimm: thanks for your help
[12:34] <dli> Cruel_dog, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:35] <Cruel_dog> thanks
[12:35] <gnomefreak> Sammy77: read the pm ubotu sent you see if anything there helps
[12:35] <Cruel_dog> i do that in the ctrl+alt+f mode?
[12:35] <Cruel_dog> f1**
[12:35] <zcat[1] > Cruel_dog: yes but log in first..
[12:36] <paradizelost> hey all, can anyone tell me where the hpa-tftpd log file is stored?
[12:36] <Cruel_dog> thanks
[12:36] <Cruel_dog> what i do after entered that command?
[12:36] <capiCrimm> paradizelost, try /var/log
[12:36] <paradizelost> don't see aything in there
[12:36] <zcat[1] > speaking of dpkg-reconfigure ; mine the text is messed up.. the highlight bar is one character off from the text under it. Any suggestions? is that normal?
[12:36] <paradizelost> i'm not that nob
[12:37] <paradizelost> noob
[12:37] <paradizelost> :D
[12:37] <ru> How would i run a program as root on start of X ?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> ru: you dont
[12:37] <capiCrimm> :p, paradizelost , you know the name of the file?
[12:37] <zcat[1] > .. it works oK in an xterm, it only screws up for text consoled
[12:37] <paradizelost> ru: in ~/.xinitrc you add sudo proram
[12:37] <gnomefreak> ru: what program could you possibly need to run as root?
[12:37] <paradizelost> capiCrimm: `no i don't
[12:38] <ru> mythfrontend
[12:38] <aLPHa_LeaK> paradizelost, that wouldnt work, because you would have to enter your password, which you cant
[12:38] <zcat[1] > gnomefreak: that would be any program that needs root?
[12:38] <capiCrimm> paradizelost, do you know anything about the file's name?
[12:38] <paradizelost> ru: i don't recommend doing it though
[12:38] <zcat[1] > set up sudoers to allow you to run the required command with no password..
[12:38] <paradizelost> aLPHa_LeaK: well, if you have it so that members of the %admin group don't need a passsword w/ sudo.....
[12:38] <paradizelost> :D
[12:38] <gnomefreak> zcat[1] : programs dont normally need root to run
[12:38] <paradizelost> capiCrimm: no i don't
[12:38] <paradizelost> it's the hpa tftpd server
[12:39] <paradizelost> it's home is /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp
[12:39] <zcat[1] > paradizelost: bad idea.. safe enough if it's just running dhclient or something..
[12:39] <aLPHa_LeaK> well...im paranoid, paradizelost, so that option is not available ;o)
[12:39] <gnomefreak> most programs that need root access will run at startup anway
[12:39] <paradizelost> aLPHa_LeaK: good
[12:39] <zcat[1] > gnomefreak: true, but never assume ;0
[12:39] <aLPHa_LeaK> you can add it to init...
[12:39] <gnomefreak> zcat[1] : thats why i asked him what program
[12:41] <zcat[1] > ru: what program do you need to run as root, perhaps we can find a more sensible place to run it?
[12:41] <Elazar> Is there a way I can copy something from a local hard drive to a Samba share via the Terminal?
[12:42] <pablo_> hi
[12:42] <zcat[1] > mount the share first..
[12:42] <pablo_> iv configured a user (profile..loaded programs configured then etc) and now i want to apply these sttings (i guees everything its under home of that user) to all other users
[12:42] <pablo_> so i did sudo cp -rv /home/draco/ /home/draco1
[12:42] <pablo_> but when i log wiht draco1 user
[12:42] <Cruel_dog> done
[12:42] <pablo_> all icons apear wiht a "locked" sign in the uper riht conrner
[12:42] <paradizelost> pablo_: don't forget to chown
[12:42] <pablo_> and many programs do not even load
[12:42] <zcat[1] > I think smbclient can copy stuff like ftp-style but it's not the best answer
[12:42] <AlmtyBob> how do I set my box up so I can tightvnc right after boot without having to login?
[12:42] <fredrich> ack...i keep getting "wlan0: link is not ready" when inserting my prism2 usb nic
[12:43] <fredrich> anyone have any idea why?
[12:43] <Elazar> zcat: Ah, thanks.
[12:43] <zcat[1] > pablo_ try cp -a next time, it will preserve ownership
[12:43] <dli> fredrich, check your dmesg for errors
[12:43] <paradizelost> AlmtyBob: add x11vnc -scale 0.75 -rfbauth /home/dan/.vnc/passwd -bg -q -forever -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -gone 'xscreensaver-command -lock' -shared
[12:43] <paradizelost> to your /etc/gdm/Init/default file
[12:44] <paradizelost> you will need to apt-get install x11vnc
[12:44] <paradizelost> and obviousely change /home/dan/.vnc/passwd to where your vnc password file is stored
[12:44] <MystaMax> hello!
[12:44] <Elazar> zcat: Is there a way to get a progress bar or something on a cp call?
[12:44] <Nihil85> hi all. Which was the command to set the keyboard layer with the terminal?
[12:44] <paradizelost> the -scale does server side scaling
[12:44] <fredrich> dli, ok..found some errors there...how do i paste it without spamming the channel
[12:44] <zcat[1] > !pastebin
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[12:45] <dli> fredrich, pastebin.com , ask ubotu about paste bin
[12:45] <menkent> i'm having partitioning nightmares while setting up breezy... can someone priv message me and help walk me through this real quick?
[12:45] <paradizelost> AlmtyBob: lets you vnc to the console of the machine
[12:45] <zcat[1] > Elazar: no.
[12:45] <dli> menkent, pm me
[12:45] <paradizelost> AlmtyBob: this is assuming that you are using gdm of cours
[12:45] <fredrich> dli, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13668
[12:45] <delmar> Can anyone please tell me what the default port is for the Esound daemon? there is nothing in the /etc/esd.conf to indicate the port.
[12:46] <MystaMax> I have installed ubuntu breezy onto a Dell Dual Xeon 2.8, but its only seeing one processor, why is this?
[12:46] <RandolphCarter> delmar: netstat | grep esd ?
[12:46] <RandolphCarter> well, netstat -a, shows the listen port too
[12:47] <paradizelost> MystaMax: not sure if ubuntu has SMP enabled by default
[12:48] <delmar> RandolphCarter, yep. looks like a wierd port tho
[12:48] <MystaMax> paradizelost: thanks for the reply. Do I have to reinstall ubuntu to enable it?
[12:48] <zcat[1] > install an sMP kernel. I'm fairly sure the installer doesn't detect this..
[12:48] <marlene_> oi
[12:48] <paradizelost> MystaMax: it would be a kernel recompile
[12:48] <marlene_> hy
[12:48] <aLPHa_LeaK> MystaMax, how do you know that it only recognizes 1 processor?
[12:48] <zcat[1] > recompile?? wtf??
[12:48] <paradizelost> MystaMax: save you from completely re-installing
[12:48] <zcat[1] > It's a package!!
[12:48] <MystaMax> whoa
[12:48] <Elazar> zcat: When I use the name of the mount as the destination, it tries to copy it to a directory with the same name. :\
[12:48] <paradizelost> zcat[1] : ok. i'm used to gentoo where kernels are concerned...
[12:48] <delmar> doesnt seem to work either
[12:49] <paradizelost> MystaMax: follow zcat[1] 's advice, use synaptic and install an SMP enabled kernel
[12:49] <marlene_> oi  tudo bom : )
[12:49] <aLPHa_LeaK> n8
[12:49] <MystaMax> zcat: can you point me in the right direction
[12:49] <MystaMax> paradizelost: I looked at the system monitor and it only listed one processor
[12:49] <RandolphCarter> delmar: hmm :/ can't help beyond that, nothing in the manpages or my esd.conf
[12:49] <zcat[1] > sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp  should do it.
[12:49] <paradizelost> MystaMax: use synaptic - sudo synaptic, find the latest 2.6 kernel that says smp after it
[12:49] <MystaMax> u guys rock!
[12:50] <MystaMax> u know that right?
[12:50] <delmar> RandolphCarter, u would think that important information about the port, and how to set the port, would be in the docs somewhere... but there is no man page for esd.conf and very little in /usr/share/doc/esound
[12:50] <Briguy> I'm trying to set up X-Chat to work with Hebrew. I installed the culmus hebrew font package. However, when I go to change my character fonts, it doesn't come up as an option. To allow for Hebrew viewing support from others users I changed the server character set to UTF-8.
[12:50] <spikeb> MystaMax: hehe
[12:50] <RandolphCarter> delmar: I know, I'd never thought to check that before, but it does seem poor.  There's a link in the manpage to esdctl, which doesn't seem to be installed either
[12:50] <menkent> dli, u there?
[12:50] <delmar> RandolphCarter, all i want to get working is TeamSpeak with Esd because as it is, not using Esd, it hogs the audio hardware and doesn't let anything else play.
[12:51] <GaiaX11> Anyone there knows how to set up a wireless card in ubuntu?
[12:51] <Briguy> delmar: I have the same problem. It's a problem with the sound servers. I experience it with ALSA as well.
[12:51] <paradizelost> GaiaX11: in gnome, right click on teh network iccon at the top right
[12:51] <dli> menkent, yes
[12:51] <paradizelost> goproperties
[12:51] <RandolphCarter> hmm, if you can use a file-based port, try /tmp/.esd-****/socket
[12:51] <paradizelost> go configure
[12:51] <paradizelost> should be listed
[12:51] <paradizelost> just set it up how you want
[12:52] <menkent> u get my messages?
[12:52] <GaiaX11> Do I need wireless-tools; ndiswrapper and the kernel-headers?
[12:52] <skippper> can someone help me?
[12:52] <delmar> Briguy, yeah. pain in the ass
[12:52] <zcat[1] > paradizelost: you wish.. bet it's one that requires ndis and stuff :)
[12:52] <paradizelost> menkent:  you may want to say who your asking
[12:52] <paradizelost> skippper: don't askto ask
[12:52] <paradizelost> skippper: what do you need?
[12:52] <dli> menkent, no, you have to register your nick, /msg NickServ
[12:53] <skippper> i installed ubuntu on one of my drives and windows on my other, now i just want ubuntu and the windwos as extra space.
[12:53] <delmar> you know what.. for all Linux's nices... it sure has a whole lot of nasties. i guess thats what u get with a gnu/free/community-contributed platform vs one u pay for.
[12:53] <paradizelost> zcat[1] : just covering the easy onesfirst...
[12:53] <GaiaX11> Or those packs are already there
[12:53] <zcat[1] > GaiaX11: what paradizelost says.. see if it's already detected.. many cards are
[12:53] <RandolphCarter> delmar: if you think windows documentation about something like this would be better, think again :/
[12:53] <Briguy> delmar: It's not a bad issue, you just have to set up multiple sound servers, which I never succeeded in doing lol.
[12:54] <delmar> RandolphCarter, actually their KB is not too bad :P.
[12:54] <paradizelost> delmar: try getting any support out of M$ for anything w/o having to pay for it or being told to reload
[12:54] <PVZ> how can i enable writing permissions for folders or files?
[12:54] <paradizelost> PVZ: chmod
[12:54] <PVZ> chmod only works for reading,right?
[12:54] <GaiaX11> This card is not detected
[12:54] <paradizelost> PVZ: man chomd
[12:54] <delmar> paradizelost, that i have to agree with
[12:54] <paradizelost> anyone know how to change the damn colors in irc?
[12:54] <paradizelost> the bright yellow is too tough to read...
[12:54] <menkent> tra la
[12:54] <paradizelost> can't see who's typing to me
[12:54] <paradizelost> :D
[12:55] <zcat[1] > paradizelost: Last time I called MS (client had support contract) I spend over an hour on the phone, they didn't tell me anything I hadn't already found in google and in the end the answer I got was 'reinstall'
[12:55] <RandolphCarter> delmar: pfft :/ w/o the windows bashing, this is kind of an odd request, afaik your program should use the ESD api's to detect which port to use :/
[12:56] <skippper> paradizelost: can yuo help
[12:56] <ircbrowser99> NoUse: oftpd appears to have done the trick (sudo apt-get install oftpd, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure oftpd) thanks:)
[12:56] <zcat[1] > http://www.joke-archives.com/microsoft/microsoftvspsychicfriends.html
[12:56] <paradizelost> skippper: what did you need?
[12:56] <paradizelost> skippper: ask the question
[12:56] <skippper> i installed ubuntu on one of my drives and windows on my other, now i just want ubuntu and the windwos as extra space.
[12:56] <skippper> how can i do that
[12:57] <ubuntu> hi!
[12:57] <delmar> So what I have done so far is... i have blown away about 800gigs of my favorite shows and movies... and taken the plunge.. converting my main box almost entirely to linux. i still have a winXP bootup .. just in case... but i have converted about 800gig of disk to an LVM.. and am preparing to settle in and start using Linux apps, where i would have used a windows one to do whatever.. and holey crap there is heaps of stuff out there.
[12:57] <paradizelost> apt-get install gparted
[12:57] <paradizelost> use that to delete the partition and format it to your desired filesystem
[12:58] <delmar> So, what can someone recommend for an ftp client? I used Filezilla on windows, and there is a beta of it for Linux but its VERY beta and not very good.... anyone have any suggestions?
[12:58] <skippper> i did that, but then my linux drive wouldnt boot it gave me "Operating system not found"
[12:58] <paradizelost> zcat[1] : do you know how i can change these colors?
[12:58] <zcat[1] > paradizelost: what client?
[12:58] <arrinmurr> delmar: konqueror ;)
[12:58] <paradizelost> zcat[1] : in a terminali type irc
[12:58] <foldingstock> delmat: gftp is nice
[12:58] <paradizelost> standard w/ ubuntu
[12:58] <ircbrowser99> delmar you have command line ftp available to you while you look for a gui ftp client
[12:58] <foldingstock> delmar: gftp is nice*
[12:58] <delmar> arrinmurr, prefer something with features :P
[12:58] <paradizelost> skippper: which drive do you have your bootloader on?
[12:58] <Elazar> zcat[1] : When I use the name of the mount as the destination, it tries to copy it to a directory with the same name. :\
[12:58] <emiliano> hola a todos
[12:59] <skippper> my linux drive
[12:59] <zcat[1] > load up epic4 and a nice script..
[12:59] <emiliano> no se como es esto
[12:59] <paradizelost> skippper: is the windows drive the first one?
[12:59] <skippper> yes
[12:59] <emiliano> hay alguien que hable espaol???
[12:59] <zcat[1] > Elazar: cp /mount/foo/* /dest/
[12:59] <HymnToLife> !es
[12:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:59] <Briguy> OH!
[12:59] <paradizelost> skippper: then you'll need to re-run grub and tell it to install the bootloader on /dev/hda
[12:59] <paradizelost> or (hd0)
[12:59] <Briguy> Delmar: It also has to do with your soundcard
[01:00] <Briguy> Delmar: I just remembered lol.
[01:00] <emiliano> how can I do to use ubuntu.es?
[01:00] <skippper> Do i need grub if im just installing 1 OS?
[01:00] <paradizelost> skippper: because /boot is on the linux drive, but the bootloader is installed in the primary master MBR
[01:00] <ubuntu> hola emiliano
[01:00] <emiliano> hola
[01:00] <paradizelost> skippper: you need either grub or lilo, because w/o them you have nothing to tell the computer how to boot
[01:00] <Briguy> Delmar: Certain soundcards can support multiple events, it's different from linux than it is with windows, windows emulates it.
[01:00] <zcat[1] > skippper: do you need NTLDR if you're only installing windows?
[01:00] <emiliano> no se bien como es esto
[01:00] <HymnToLife> emiliano> just type /join #ubuntu-es
[01:00] <ubuntu> creo que tenemos que movernos a  #kubuntu-es
[01:00] <skippper> idk
[01:00] <emiliano> at this window?
[01:00] <nicolito> hello
[01:01] <ubuntu> aqui no quieren a la gente que habla espanol
[01:01] <Elazar> zcat[1] : No, I'm trying to copy something from the local system to the share.
[01:01] <emiliano> ok
[01:01] <delmar> Briguy, dunno about that.. i mean... it works mint with lots of "events" as you say... under windows... its all late model hardware.
[01:01] <zcat[1] > yes, you need a bootloader even if it's only one OS..
[01:01] <emiliano> so lets talk english? jajaja
[01:01] <skippper> and 1 last question, How can i set a chmod a folder and set the chmod for all files in thatfolder, (includingones thta come in with different chmods)
[01:01] <nicolito> how can I share a folder included in my home dir, with other users??
[01:01] <paradizelost> emiliano: what if i'd rather talk engrish
[01:01] <paradizelost> :D
[01:01] <delmar> Briguy, i think its going to be more the application... the sound server needs to hog the sound hardware, and the applications need to talk to the sound server.
[01:01] <emiliano> its the fist time Im using ubuntu
[01:01] <paradizelost> nicolito: add it to your smb.conf if you plan on sharing over the network
[01:01] <ubuntu> I am new in linux world
[01:02] <basti_> Hello, I need help for installing nVidia Drivers
[01:02] <emiliano> me too
[01:02] <ubuntu> do you help me _
[01:02] <basti_> first: How to see what kernel I am running?
[01:02] <Elazar> basti_: Search the wiki for nvidia.
[01:02] <ru> chown: changing ownership of `windows2': Function not implemented
[01:02] <zcat[1] > !nvidia
[01:02] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:02] <ru> anyone know why I would be getting that
[01:02] <nicolito> paradizelost, no, share in my own computer, but with other users
[01:02] <paradizelost> basti_: you will need to apt-get install build-essential linux-headers
[01:02] <basti_> Elazar, yes, I found a howTo
[01:02] <boubbiii111> hi could someone help me installing a network card in ubuntu i have no idea how
[01:02] <boubbiii111> please
[01:02] <Briguy> delmar: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=968039
[01:02] <basti_> I installed them all
[01:02] <basti_> I found a howto, but the installer still wants the kernel-sources
[01:03] <basti_> but where to get?
[01:03] <zcat[1] > passbe: no, you just need to apt-get install nvidia-glx and reconfigure xorg.. too easy
[01:03] <paradizelost> basti_: then apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:03] <boubbiii111> please
[01:03] <basti_> hmm
[01:03] <basti_> okay
[01:03] <boubbiii111> hi could someone help me installing a network card in ubuntu i have no idea how
[01:03] <basti_> paradizelost, and then?
[01:03] <zcat[1] > para, sorry: no, you just need to apt-get install nvidia-glx and reconfigure xorg.. too easy
[01:03] <paradizelost> boubbiii111: do an lspci, is it seen there
[01:03] <basti_> hm
[01:03] <basti_> but I need the nvidia audio drivers!
[01:03] <boubbiii111> yo have to guide me throu
[01:03] <Elazar> zcat[1] : No, I'm trying to copy something from the local system to the share.
[01:03] <gnomefreak> boubbiii111: you asked now give someone time to look at the question and see if they can answer you please
[01:03] <capiCrimm> when I hit c-m F1 I go to a console, then if I do m F7 I go to a black screen, anyone know how to get back to gnome? alt, seems to no longer work
[01:04] <zcat[1] > ahhh.. ok sorry
[01:04] <paradizelost> basti_: you said nvidia drivers
[01:04] <ru> Why would chown be saying "Function not implemented"
[01:04] <basti_> nvidia platform drivers
[01:04] <boubbiii111> where
[01:04] <nicolito> please, how can I share a folder (with all the permissions) in one computer, with all the users??
[01:04] <basti_> I have a nvida chipset
[01:04] <zcat[1] > normally nvidia drivers means nvidia graphics drivers ;)
[01:04] <delmar> Briguy, at the moment.. it looks like TeapSpeak supports setting of a port address.... ie. will talk to Esound, but im not sure what port to tell it to use...
[01:04] <zcat[1] > never doen nvidia platform drivers .. hopefully never will :)
[01:05] <paradizelost> basti_: apt-get install linux-headers
[01:05] <basti_> paradizelost, I done that!
[01:05] <Biodieseler> need help. just got my ubuntu laptop online and need to upload more applications (like audacity)... please HELP.
[01:05] <basti_> But first I must see what kernel I am running
[01:05] <zcat[1] > uname -a
 lspci ?
[01:05] <skippper> and 1 last question, How can i set a chmod a folder and set the chmod for all files in thatfolder, (includingones thta come in with different chmods)
[01:05] <Briguy> delmar: First try the instructions in that post. I know it seems simple. first open a terminal and do killall esd   then, make sure your system's output is using ALSA
[01:06] <paradizelost> basti_: do what zcat[1]  said
[01:06] <delmar> Briguy, thats fine, but then what is TeamSpeak going to do?
[01:06] <paradizelost> skippper: chmod -Rfv ### /folder/name
[01:06] <Biodieseler> Can anyone help me?
[01:06] <paradizelost> skippper: that will get everything that's there.
[01:06] <delmar> Briguy, i can tell it to use a path ie /dev/dsp or /dev/audio .. or I can tell it to use a port for a sound server
[01:06] <paradizelost> skippper: as far as all files after that, i'm not sure, maybe zcat[1]  can help
[01:06] <Briguy> delmar: restart teamspeak and see how it work? Or are you saying TeamSpeak is requiring a port before it can run?
[01:06] <skippper> including files that come in with differetn chmods?
[01:07] <paradizelost> skippper: it will change the perms of any file currently in that dir. or a subdir
[01:07] <boubbiii111> anyone could pm me to help me install adriver for my network card i have no idea what to do please
[01:07] <duckdown> Hey all, how can I add /etc/init.d/tor and /etc/init.d/privoxy to be enabled by default at runtime?
[01:07] <eXistenZ> How can I know what sound driver is alsa using
[01:07] <Briguy> delmar: Try both /dev's if not, i'm not sure :-/
[01:07] <Briguy> delmar: i'm a newbie to :-(
[01:07] <zcat[1] > skippper: make it sticky .. chown developers.developers /ballmer/ ; chmod g+rws /ballmer/  now when anyone writes to ballmer it will get owned by developers group and readable by all developers..
[01:07] <paradizelost> duckdown: create a symbolic link from it to /etc/rc2.d/S##tor
[01:08] <delmar> Briguy, I can't ue a port on a sound server because i don't know the port number or details.. and what i have tried didnt work... and when i use the path ie /dev/dsp  it hogs the resource and nothing else seems to be able to use it
[01:08] <zcat[1] > because ballmer is sticky
[01:08] <zcat[1] > I always wanted to use that as an example :)
[01:08] <BHSPitLappy> hi all
[01:08] <paradizelost> delmar: are you using OSS or ALSA
[01:08] <duckdown> paradizelost: Hrmm, usually I type /etc/init.d/tor start and /etc/init.d/privoxy start ... will that be a problem?
[01:08] <eXistenZ> zcat[1] , How can I check what sound driver is alsa using?
[01:08] <delmar> paradizelost, for what...
[01:09] <boubbiii111> anone
[01:09] <boubbiii111> anyone
[01:09] <mike930> does grub 1.5 support splashimages, if so how many colors?
[01:09] <paradizelost> duckdown: that's a manual restart, the /etc/rc#.d folders tell the computer what to load at what runlevel
[01:09] <Briguy> delmar: Thats really weird, when I used Teamspeak it never asked me for a port :-( i'm sorry, btw what game are you playing?
[01:09] <duckdown> paradizelost: Beauty, thanks man
[01:09] <delmar> paradizelost, Cedega is set to use ALSA right now... and TeamSpeak .. has no such options... you set the path ie /dev/(bah) or .. can set a network port address.
[01:09] <basti_> ah,. works now
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[01:09] <basti_> i had the wrong headers installed
[01:09] <basti_> thank you
[01:09] <paradizelost> delmar: the sound system, OSS locks, alsa will usually let more than one thing use it
[01:09] <delmar> Briguy, any game running under Cedega will have no sound if TeamSpeak is running and set to use /dev/dsp or /dev/audio
[01:10] <duckdown> paradizelost: Well, how would I run my 'wpa_supplicant -Dmadwifi -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' at runtime then?  Then I'd be TRUELY set
[01:10] <paradizelost> duckdown: i could tell you how in gentoo, but i'm not sure in ubuntu
[01:10] <delmar> paradizelost, so it would seem that TeamSpeak is using OSS .. when ot connects directly to the likes of /dev/dsp .. hence the problem
[01:10] <duckdown> paradizelost: Doh, thanks man, no worries
[01:10] <paradizelost> duckdown: you could add it to your users's .xinitrc so it runs when you log in...
[01:10] <Briguy> delmar: Thats right I think you can configure Cedega to use OSS on game start up
[01:10] <delmar> paradizelost, so its because TeamSpeak is not using ALSA that is the issue
[01:10] <paradizelost> delmar: most likely
[01:10] <skippper> zcat[1] : this is for my server, hwo would i make chmod default readable
[01:11] <paradizelost> skippper: man chmod
[01:11] <delmar> Briguy, hence why i told it to use ALSA because OSS is a bit more.. ghey. :P
[01:11] <paradizelost> skippper: learn what the numbers or ltters mean
[01:11] <paradizelost> :D
[01:11] <skippper> i know
[01:11] <skippper> but
[01:11] <skippper> i dont feel like setting them everytime i enter something
[01:11] <delmar> paradizelost, so.. it would stand to reason that if the Esound server was using ALSA.. Cedega was using ALSA.. and TeapSpeak was pointing at the Esound.. everything would be happy....
[01:11] <paradizelost> skippper: sticky bit
[01:12] <paradizelost> delmar: i would expect so.
[01:12] <delmar> hence why I am trying to get TeapSpeak and Esound .. workin g:P
[01:12] <delmar> paradizelost, does Esd use ALSA?
[01:12] <ircbrowser99> !sshd
[01:12] <ubotu> it has been said that sshd is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[01:12] <paradizelost> delmar: from there i don't htink i can be of much help,
[01:12] <paradizelost> delmar: i think ESD is it's own sound daemon
[01:12] <paradizelost> thus the SD in ESD
[01:12] <Elazar> No matter what destination I pass to smbmount, I always get back that it can't resolve the mount point. Any suggestions?
[01:13] <delmar> paradizelost, a sound daemon talks to the sound hardware via OSS or ALSA.. which are not daemons.. they are hardware resources
[01:13] <paradizelost> Elazar: try mount.cifs //1.2.3.4/share /media/mountpoint
[01:13] <delmar> paradizelost, a sound daemon is nothing  but a software proxy of sorts.
[01:13] <delmar> anyway so my problem is lack of info regarding esound.
[01:13] <paradizelost> delmar: as i said, i'm not intricately familiar w/ what you are trying to do.
[01:14] <paradizelost> delmar: i ust use alsa, and have never used teamspeak w/ cedega on linux
[01:14] <paradizelost> Elazar: if it says mount.cifs not found, apt-get install smbfs
[01:14] <Briguy> paradizelost: His problem is that when he runs two applications that use sound, in this case a game and teamspeak, the game hogs all the sound resources.
[01:14] <Briguy> Delmar: It might be an issue with Cedega
[01:14] <delmar> paradizelost, ignoring all other crap.. i simply want to know the network port details for Esound. it's a sound server..
[01:15] <paradizelost> delmar: i don't use esound and am not familiar w/ it, so i won't be of much help
[01:15] <Briguy> Anyone know what TrueType font package supports Hebrew?
[01:15] <delmar> Briguy, ignoring cedega.  I wanna know what the details are for the esound server .. port and stuff.
[01:15] <delmar> paradizelost, well thanks anyway :P
[01:15] <paradizelost> delmar: np
[01:15] <Biodieseler> someone help....
[01:15] <Briguy> delmar: That I don't know :-(
[01:15] <Biodieseler> ...please help.....
[01:15] <paradizelost> Biodieseler: what do you nnee
[01:15] <paradizelost> Biodieseler: need
[01:15] <paradizelost> Biodieseler: don't ask to ask
[01:16] <Biodieseler> need to expand my synaptic available library
[01:16] <paradizelost> Biodieseler: just ask your ?
[01:16] <paradizelost> Biodieseler: ad more sources to /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <Biodieseler> just got my laptop online with ubuntu
[01:16] <Biodieseler> how do i open that to add?
[01:17] <paradizelost> Biodieseler: if you edit /etc/apt/sources.list there are several other lists already in the file you simply need to comment out
[01:17] <paradizelost> BRB
[01:17] <zcat[1] > synaptic config, add more repositories.. tick universe and multiverse
[01:17] <Briguy> I like how ubuntu has all the truetype font packages that cover chinese, korean, japanese, hindi, and every other concievable form of sanskrit, has arabic, but doesn't include aramaic and hebrew :-(
[01:17] <paradizelost> waiting for my chinese to show up....
[01:17] <Briguy> lol
[01:17] <Biodieseler> thanks paradizelost and zcat... i'll be right back
[01:17] <paradizelost> me hungry
[01:17] <Briguy> im getting chinese right now as well
[01:18] <paradizelost> have't eaten yet today and it's 6:20pm
[01:18] <paradizelost> :D
[01:18] <paradizelost> :(
[01:18] <serp> =(
[01:18] <AlmtyBob> yesterday I went until 9:30pm before I ate 8/
[01:18] <AlmtyBob> stupid mythtv
[01:18] <serp> no food = sad tummy
[01:18] <paradizelost> no food=less weight, i'm trying to lose about 50lbs
[01:18] <serp> not eating is not the answer
[01:18] <serp> it's just plain unhealthy
[01:19] <soundray> serp: there's no other answer, though.
[01:19] <paradizelost> mailny i just forgot to eat at lunch today
[01:19] <serp> eat moderate amounts of healthy food and excercise
[01:19] <paradizelost> was working on getting bartpe to pxe boot w/ hpa-tftp
[01:19] <Sionide> heh
[01:20] <Sionide> especially if you're about to have chinese
[01:20] <Sionide> that'll cancel out the last week of any diet you're doing..
[01:20] <gnomefreak> !offtopic
[01:20] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[01:20] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: are you trying to say that food is offtopic?
[01:20] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: we need to eat to keep our minds sharp to help support people
[01:20] <paradizelost> ....
[01:20] <gnomefreak> paradizelost: yes
[01:21] <gnomefreak> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:21] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: didn't se any ?'s coming in at the moment....
[01:21] <fredrich> i badly need help with my prism2 card http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13668
[01:21] <Sionide> fredrich, perfect timing
[01:21] <zcat[1] > apt-get install healthy-food
[01:21] <menkent> anything naughty about using ext3 for the boot partition?
[01:21] <serp> where can I get support with the code::blocks IDE?
[01:21] <paradizelost> menkent: i usually use reiser for everything
[01:21] <gnomefreak> paradizelost: it doesnt mean take about anything (btw ive seena few questions being asked)
[01:22] <paradizelost> menkent: seems to be more reliable and a little faster
[01:22] <fredrich> Sionide, oh?um..
[01:22] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: i was just giving you a hard time about being a hard ass...
[01:22] <capiCrimm> is there any way to get a pinup button in the windows like in blackbox, kde, etc.
[01:22] <LinuxJones> serp: what language ?
[01:22] <soundray> menkent: ext3 is just fine for the boot partition.
[01:22] <serp> LinuxJones: c++
[01:22] <capiCrimm> or rollup
[01:22] <menkent> coo, thx. :)
[01:22] <capiCrimm> serp, for wxwidgets?
[01:23] <serp> I wanna know how to use the debugger
[01:23] <serp> it just doesnt work
[01:23] <eXistenZ> Did anyone succeed to get his 5.1 surround to work?
[01:23] <LinuxJones> serp: using gtk or pygtk ?
[01:23] <zcat[1] > ext2 or ext3 or reiserfs are all good sensible Linux filesystems you can use for / or /boot or /home.. fat32 or ntfs or hfs are not.
[01:23] <serp> LinuxJones: ?
[01:23] <serp> I don't know
[01:24] <LinuxJones> serp: jsut plain old c++
[01:24] <zcat[1] > I tend to prefer reiser.
[01:24] <Tanooki> When I try to run the Adept package manager, I am prompted for the root password, but it always says the password is incorrect.
[01:24] <Tanooki> Can anyone help?
[01:24] <spikeb> i am going to learn python and pygtk :)
[01:25] <paradizelost> Tanooki: use your current user password
[01:25] <LinuxJones> serp: try joining #gcc
[01:25] <paradizelost> Tanooki: unless you've changed the root password manually
[01:25] <capiCrimm> is there anyway I can redirect output to a file(like >), but still interact with it in the terminal?
[01:25] <serp> ok thanks LinuxJones
[01:25] <bbrazil> capiCrimm: tee
[01:25] <LinuxJones> spikeb: good man :)
[01:26] <soundray> capiCrimm: man tee
[01:26] <zcat[1] > capiCrimm: | tee file
[01:26] <Tanooki> Paradize:  It won't accept my user password either.
[01:26] <spikeb> LinuxJones: i have a couple of itches to scratch, one being an electronic checkbook register, and the other being a RTS game :)
[01:26] <paradizelost> Tanooki: are you a member of the %admin group?
[01:26] <paradizelost> Tanooki: you should use tab to complete names as well
[01:27] <paradizelost> Tanooki: fyi, that way i can get the highlighting sayig you've messaged me
[01:27] <fredrich> i cant understand how my card was working a-ok in breezy, then all of a sudden in dapper, it becomes a problem....sure dapper is a dev release currently...but still to get a prism2 intersil driver running shouldnt be this much work..
[01:27] <LinuxJones> spikeb: you'll want to check out #python, #pygtk and #gnome-hackers :)
[01:27] <Tanooki> How do I check what groups I'm a member of?
[01:28] <paradizelost> edit /etc/groups
[01:28] <RandolphCarter> Tanooki: id
[01:28] <spikeb> LinuxJones: aye
[01:28] <soundray> Tanooki: enter 'groups'
[01:28] <Xenguy> Tanooki: id
[01:28] <capiCrimm> spikeb, if you want something a bit more portable you might want to look at wxwidgets and wxpython(wxperl, wxruby, etc)
[01:28] <paradizelost> or log in as root and type vigr
[01:28] <LinuxJones> spikeb: I'm waiting for my new Python book to arrive in the mail
[01:28] <paradizelost> on a terminal
[01:28] <Elazar> Why would I get something like this... "cp: cannot create regular file ... Permission denied" ... when I try to copy a file to a directory on a Samba share and the permissions on it are wide open?
[01:28] <spikeb> LinuxJones: what did you get?
[01:28] <RandolphCarter> LinuxJones: ooh, what d'ya get?
[01:28] <paradizelost> Elazar: the permissions on the machine connecting to it
[01:29] <soundray> paradizelost: please don't advise people to log in as root.
[01:29] <Tanooki> paradize: /etc/groups doesn't exist.
[01:29] <soundray> Tanooki: have you created extra users on your system after installation?
[01:29] <LinuxJones> spikeb: python programming: from novice to professional, it's got the highest praises of any Python books that I have seen
[01:29] <paradizelost> soundray: sorry, figured people may know enough to run 1 command as root w/o breaking it
[01:29] <Xenguy> Tanooki: /etc/group
[01:29] <RandolphCarter> it would be safer to change your sudo config file to be slightly insecure (and let you run the program you want) than make the user root?
[01:30] <spikeb> LinuxJones: cool
[01:30] <soundray> paradizelost: someone who doesn't know what groups (s)he is in?
[01:30] <paradizelost> soundray: could be just unfamiliar w/ ubuntu, say a gentoo user where the equivalent was %wheel
[01:30] <gareth> im having a huge problum with 5.10... it wont connect to the internet though my WiFI OR direct network
[01:30] <LinuxJones> spikeb: I have been playing around with wxPython and am gonna take a crack at that first before moving on to pyGTK
[01:31] <spikeb> LinuxJones: neat :)
[01:31] <Toran> What can I use to mass-convert APE lossless audio files to FLAC lossless audio files, preserving meta data? (tags and the like)
[01:31] <Tanooki> Paradize: There's no 'admin' group.  There is an 'adm', is that the same thing?
[01:32] <soundray> paradizelost: best to err on the side of assuming the least amount of experience. Creates less work in the long run.
[01:32] <paradizelost> Tanooki: are you using dapper or breezy?
[01:32] <Tanooki> Dapper
[01:32] <paradizelost> Tanooki: i haven't used dapper, so i'd field it to someone else
[01:32] <soundray> Tanooki: have you created extra user accounts on your system after installation?
[01:32] <paradizelost> soundray: people won't learn if they don't f* it up once in a while
[01:33] <Tanooki> Yes, there's one regular user account that I'm using now.
[01:33] <soundray> paradizelost: they do that spontaneously to a sufficient extent. You don't have to guide them towards it ;)
[01:33] <paradizelost> soundray: but it's fun to have them sudo userdel root
[01:34] <mustard5> soundray, hehehe
[01:34] <soundray> Tanooki: log in as the very first user that you created. That one will have privileges to run administration commands.
[01:34] <Jave27> how would I go about getting my workspace switcher icons back on the panel?  I lost them after a weird X crash a while back...?
[01:34] <robinsw> !tgz
[01:34] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, robinsw
[01:35] <mustard5> Jave27, right click 'add panel' ?
[01:35] <capiCrimm> hrm, tee doesn't seem to do what I need. I want to see the output as well(I'm trying to record a telnet session)
[01:35] <soundray> robinsw, ask us.
[01:35] <skippper> i need help, i cant edit my MBR
[01:35] <Jave27> mustard5: thanks, you're a genius.  :)
[01:35] <robinsw> Guys, just downloaded RealBASIC... the filename is REALbasicLinux.tgz. How can I install this?
[01:35] <mustard5> Jave27, np :)
[01:35] <soundray> capiCrimm: run it in screen (man screen)
[01:36] <paradizelost> capiCrimm: screen is awesome
[01:36] <gareth> anyway, im (when booted into it) running breezy, my wifi card is:Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
[01:36] <mustard5> skippper, what do you want to do to your MBR?
[01:36] <paradizelost> mustard5: he deleted his windows partition where his bootloader was stored
[01:36] <gnomefreak> !screen
[01:36] <ubotu> well, screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen AND http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/
[01:36] <hierophant> is there an op online that i can talk to
[01:36] <gnomefreak> lots of good info on screen there
[01:36] <hierophant> please query me
[01:37] <skippper> mustard5, i saw a tut on how to install grub onto my drive, but im afraid i'll mess everythig up
[01:38] <Tanooki> soundray:  I can't run any administrative apps now.  I don't know what changed, but now I get a dialog that says 'su returned an error'.
[01:38] <paradizelost> Tanooki: did you use automatix by chance?
[01:38] <penguin> gareth: i have the same wifi card, what is the problem you are having
[01:38] <paradizelost> Tanooki: because that will fubar gksudo
[01:38] <mustard5> skippper, so what is working for you atm?
[01:39] <robinsw> Argh, fucky Linux. Just crashed.
[01:39] <skippper> mustard5, i had to re-install linux on my other drive to get grub up
[01:39] <PrimoTurbo> Is anyone using firefox able to access this page http://-kol.deviantart.com/
[01:39] <jack> violates some rfc i think
[01:39] <spikeb> not i PrimoTurbo
[01:39] <gareth> it sees all the cells it just wont assiciate with them, and i know my spelling stinks
[01:39] <capiCrimm> I don't get how http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/ relates to GNU screen?
[01:40] <paradizelost> PrimoTurbo: it works for me in windows
[01:40] <mustard5> skippper, so where did that linux install grub too?
[01:40] <PrimoTurbo> yeah works for me on windows also
[01:40] <mustard5> skippper, did it put it on the first drive or the second?
[01:40] <PrimoTurbo> but not on linux :(
[01:40] <ryancr> I am trying to rebuild thunderbird with gnome-vfs support (for adding attachments etc) i have edited the rules file and added --enable-gnomevfs and --enable-extensions=gnomevfs but it sill does not show the gnome-vfs mounted shares in the file chooser dialog
[01:40] <skippper> mustard5, on my old windows drive
[01:40] <penguin> gareth : do you have wpa enabled
[01:40] <ryancr> any thoughts/
[01:40] <ryancr> ?
[01:40] <calamari> robinsw: double click the file, it should open in the archive manager
[01:40] <jack> windows has no clue about proper rfc interpretation, linux does
[01:40] <capiCrimm> so screen is just like VNC for the terminal?
[01:40] <gareth> yes i do
[01:40] <jack> PrimoTurbo: go fix your dns entry
[01:40] <mustard5> skippper, k..so what is your goal now?
[01:41] <penguin> that seems to be the problem
[01:41] <penguin> i had the same issue
[01:41] <gareth> it also wont connect to an open one either
[01:41] <soundray> Tanooki: do not run su. You should run sudo or gksudo.
[01:41] <penguin> there are a few tutorials about getting wpa configured properly
[01:41] <skippper> mustard5, and i deleted that so i had to re install grub on it. My goal now is to install grub on my current drive (which is ubuntu)
[01:41] <penguin> one sec i'll toss you a link
[01:41] <paradizelost> PrimoTurbo: try doing an nslookup on it
[01:41] <paradizelost> linux doesn't like when things start with a -
[01:42] <penguin> gareth: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Network_Manager_with_WPA
[01:42] <penguin> this is for dapper only though
[01:42] <mustard5> skippper, ok..well if you like to be really cautious you could learn how to save a copy of your MBR before you start mucking around with it..I can show you a link
[01:42] <paradizelost> skippper: you'll need to change the 2 drives around as well, if your gonna boot from the 2nd hard drvie
[01:42] <soundray> Tanooki: are you on KDE?
[01:42] <Cars_Suck> how do you open a RAR file?
[01:42] <soundray> Cars_Suck: unrar x file.rar
[01:42] <gareth> i know how to configuer them, besides ihave no control over the router
[01:43] <skippper> mustard5, this is what i want set up, my current drive (ubuntu) with grub on it andmy other drive (nothing on it , used as more space)
[01:43] <Tanooki> Soundday, yes, on KDE, I have not used Automatix.
[01:43] <paradizelost> skippper: might be easier to reinstall ubuntu- maybe....
[01:43] <paradizelost> *don't shoot me...
[01:43] <gareth> i alread did all that
[01:43] <skippper> :/
[01:43] <Tanooki> What's wrong with su?
[01:43] <skippper> darn
[01:43] <DarkLegacy> Did anybody get my last messages?
[01:44] <paradizelost> DarkLegacy: what last messages?
[01:44] <penguin> gareth, all i can say is go to system, admin, networking and double check your settings
[01:44] <soundray> Tanooki: it requires root to be configured with a password, which is not the case by default in Ubuntu/kubuntu
[01:44] <DarkLegacy> DarkLegacy	I have a laptop that uses a PCMCIA network card, but it can't connect to the internet
[01:44] <DarkLegacy> 	DarkLegacy	I've installed the proper drivers, and have the ethernet configured correctly but it cannot connect to the internet
[01:44] <penguin> i have that same wifi card and am able to connect
[01:44] <soundray> !su
[01:44] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, soundray
[01:44] <skippper> mustard5, well if i use my other drive as extra space will it show up in "Computer"
[01:44] <mustard5> skippper, I think you could do that
[01:44] <soundray> !root
[01:44] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:44] <gareth> 5 times, still wont work
[01:44] <penguin> you made sure to set your default gateway
[01:44] <penguin> ?
[01:45] <gareth> yes
[01:45] <Cars_Suck> soundray, it said command not found
[01:45] <mustard5> skippper, you would need to mount it in /etc/fstab to use it, but thats pretty trivial.
[01:45] <skippper> alrighty
[01:45] <skippper> thanks
[01:45] <penguin> and you cant connect using the ethernet port either?
[01:45] <dhawk3122> does anyone know the minimum reqs for xbuntu? any suggestions on whether to insall xbuntu or ubuntu on a circa 1996 P2 laptop?
[01:45] <paradizelost> soundray: they tell you that, but it's just a conspiracy to turn ubuntu into windows!!!
[01:45] <soundray> Cars_Suck: you need to install the unrar package from multiverse
[01:45] <Tanooki> soundray, root has a password.  I was prompted for one during setup, and after I had the first 'incorrect password' message, I changed it on a console login just to be sure.
[01:46] <mustard5> skippper, why don't you download the super grub disk CD?  It will give you a way of booting up if you muck things up :)
[01:46] <Cars_Suck> soundray, use apt?
[01:46] <paradizelost> dhawk3122: i'd recommend replacing the laptop, but i would think w/ sufficient memory it would work fine
[01:46] <penguin> dhawk3122: xubuntu is meant to be not as resource intensive
[01:46] <soundray> Cars_Suck: yes
[01:46] <paradizelost> Tanooki: are you logged in as the first created user?
[01:46] <soundray> !info unrar
[01:46] <gareth> XUBUNTU! it takes A LOT less system resources
[01:46] <mustard5> skippper, there are lots of options you can do to give you a backup method of booting so you feel confident enough to experiment with gurb
[01:46] <soundray> !info unrar-nonfree
[01:46] <paradizelost> Tanooki: as in created during setup?
[01:46] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[01:47] <Tanooki> Paradize, yes.
[01:47] <skippper> mustard5, i'll just install ubuntu
[01:47] <mustard5> skippper, well that will definitely fix it :)
[01:47] <gareth> penguin, pm
[01:47] <skippper> lol
[01:47] <mustard5> skippper, bit of overkill, but probably less research involved
[01:47] <Cars_Suck> soundray, i should get the nonfree?
[01:47] <skippper> mustard5, thanks
[01:47] <paradizelost> Tanooki: if you open a terminal and type in sudo synaptic does it work?
[01:47] <mustard5> skippper, good luck
[01:48] <dhawk3122> ok thanks...and i agree the laptop should be placed but its not for me
[01:48] <paradizelost> dhawk3122: you could just use DSL
[01:48] <Tanooki> Paradize, no.  I get 'incorrect password.'
[01:48] <paradizelost> :D
[01:48] <paradizelost> try the password for your current user
[01:48] <paradizelost> NOT the root password
[01:48] <dhawk3122> paradize would use DSL or Pup but the person im doing this for doesnt know anything about computers
[01:49] <paradizelost> dhawk3122: i figured as much...
[01:49] <pvd2006> does cp --sparse really help with speed?>
[01:49] <pvd2006> a little bit that is
[01:49] <gareth> i really am lost here
[01:50] <Cerveza> if I want to mount off a remote machine the command is: sudo mount -t ext 129.105.29.5 then some character then the file
[01:50] <Cerveza> what is the file?
[01:50] <Tanooki> paradize, It didn't appear to do anything wit the user password.  It just gave me another command prompt.
[01:50] <penguin-1> k one sec  gareth
[01:50] <Nihil85> hi! how to set the layer for a keyboard using the bash?
[01:51] <soundray> Tanooki: as root, enter 'adduser greg admin', then run konsole and enter 'sudo adept'. Enter user greg's password at the prompt.
[01:51] <paradizelost> Tanooki: try sudo xterm
[01:51] <mustard5> hmm..so this is what fluxbox looks like
[01:51] <mustard5> very minimalistic :)
[01:51] <dave> later
[01:51] <soundray> Tanooki: (assuming that your username is greg, which I guessed from your IRC credentials)
[01:52] <Tanooki> paradize, the group 'admin' does not exist.
[01:52] <paradizelost> mustard5: you could load blackbox on windows...
[01:52] <DarkLegacy> Hey guys, why doesn't Firefox work with my PCMCIA card on my laptop?
[01:52] <paradizelost> DarkLegacy: wouldn't be a firefox issue, would be lower level....
[01:52] <soundray> Tanooki: how do you determine that the group admin does not exist?
[01:52] <DarkLegacy> Well, what's the problem paradizelost?
[01:52] <penguin-1> gareth: pm?
[01:52] <mustard5> paradizelost, heh..more for me to experiment with! I'll look into that one day :)
[01:52] <paradizelost> DarkLegacy: does anything over the network work on the card?
[01:53] <redguy> Cerveza: hmm? what you want to mount over? NFS? smb? CIFS?  not sure what -t ext is
[01:53] <ompaul> arrick1, may I message you ?
[01:53] <Tanooki> soundray, logged in as root, 'adduser greg admin' returns 'The group 'admin' does not exist.'
[01:53] <Cerveza> -t is an option for mount to specify the type
[01:53] <DarkLegacy> No, paradize
[01:53] <Cerveza> and it should be -t ext3
[01:53] <Cerveza> and the answer is nfs
[01:53] <imc1> Hi, with NetworkManager. Problem: on other installs, NM requres each user to store all the AP passwords in a default.keyring but not this time. It's asking me for the ap password each time.
[01:53] <redguy> Cerveza: so you should mount with -t nfs
[01:53] <redguy> Cerveza: not -t ext3
[01:54] <Cerveza> yeah
[01:54] <Cerveza> but I still need an answer to my question
[01:54] <Cerveza> its ip then what
[01:54] <Cerveza> ?
[01:54] <paradizelost> brb
[01:54] <arrick1> yeah
[01:54] <redguy> Cerveza: options
[01:55] <gareth> penguin, can you see me in the pm??????
[01:55] <redguy> Cerveza: man nfs
[01:55] <toodles> Cerveza, then the folder were you want that filesystem to be mounted
[01:55] <Nightfox> hi
[01:55] <Cerveza> toodles, no special character?
[01:55] <penguin-1> gareth: no, have you registered?
[01:56] <paradizelost> hey, i think i like using gaim for irc, no funky coloring....
[01:56] <redguy> Cerveza: mount -t nfs the.server:/the/nfs/export/path /mount point
[01:56] <khanman02> how do i shut down a process when it freezes my x-windows from cli like i can CTRL+ALT+F1 into a termainal, but don't know the command to shutdown the program...
[01:56] <Cerveza> :
[01:56] <Cerveza> thank you
[01:56] <whiter> hello, i have a printer shared on an XP machine, (the machine the printer is hooked to is xp), and i was wondering how i could use ubuntu to print with that printer
[01:56] <gareth> registerd, what?
[01:56] <Cerveza> thats all I needed
[01:56] <whiter> kind of like printer sharing
[01:56] <Briguy> how can one change languages on the fly?
[01:56] <Cerveza> ah, it worked
[01:56] <Cerveza> great
[01:56] <Cerveza> thanks
[01:56] <penguin-1> gareth: you need to register your nick in order to pm
[01:56] <paradizelost> khanman02: do a ps -eaf, find the pid in the list, and kill -9 pid
[01:56] <gareth> how?
[01:56] <redguy> Cerveza: i was wrong when saying that the options are after the server
[01:56] <Jave27> Hello again..  Is there a way to bind a keyboard shortcut to switching between multiple screens? I have a :0.0 & :0.1 display, and Alt-Tab doesn't switch between apps in different displays...?
[01:56] <penguin-1> gareth: /msg nickserv identify passwordyouwant
[01:56] <Cerveza> its ok
[01:56] <redguy> Cerveza: refer to man nfs
[01:56] <Cerveza> I've got it now
[01:56] <soundray> Tanooki: I don't know how you got into this situation, but you definitely have a very unusual installation.
[01:56] <soundray> Tanooki: is reinstalling an option?
[01:56] <penguin-1> err
[01:57] <penguin-1> gareth : sorry its /msg nickserv register
[01:57] <paradizelost> Tanooki: sounds like that may be or best option...
[01:57] <penguin-1> then your password you want
[01:57] <Inazad> Anyone can help me with ftp-ssl ?
[01:57] <penguin-1> then try to pm
[01:57] <khanman02> paradizelost: thankz
[01:57] <Cerveza> hey, whats the package name for opengl?
[01:57] <Briguy> how can one change languages on the fly?
[01:57] <Tanooki> soundray, Yeah, I could do it again.  That's kind of annoying, but it's only 45 minutes.
[01:58] <toodles> Cerveza, depends on what you want
[01:58] <paradizelost> Cerveza: you should just need to uncomment a line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:58] <gareth> j
[01:58] <gareth> ok, how do i change my name?
[01:58] <Jave27> Cerveza: you may need the binary video drivers for your card, too.
[01:58] <[D] ARKFENIX> hello , i need help with amarok 1.4 because it don't shows me the lyrics of any song , the names are right , so i dont know why , I've ubntu
[01:58] <soundray> Tanooki: there is one thing you could probably try before you do that:
[01:58] <paradizelost> Cerveza: load "glx" IIRC
[01:58] <Cerveza> I just want opengl
[01:59] <Cerveza> and I want to apt-get it
[01:59] <paradizelost> Cerveza: and possibly GLcore
[01:59] <Tanooki> ok...
[01:59] <soundray> Tanooki: run as root "dpkg-reconfigure passwd'
[01:59] <toodles> Cerveza, it depends on your graphics card
[01:59] <paradizelost> Cerveza: it's a setting in your X server, it's built in...
[01:59] <LinuxJones> whiter: >> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-10659.html
[01:59] <toodles> Cerveza, what card have you got?
[01:59] <soundray> Tanooki: then try the adduser command once more.
[01:59] <paradizelost> Cerveza: you may need to load the proper drivers for your card, but opengl is built into X
[01:59] <Cerveza> I need the libraries
[02:00] <gareth> I HATE IRC
[02:00] <toodles> Cerveza, they're different for different cards... at least the binary ones
[02:00] <Cerveza> my card is installed properly
[02:00] <Cerveza> I'm just trying to write programs in opengl
[02:00] <Cerveza> and gcc can't find the libraries
[02:00] <toodles> Cerveza, what make/model is the card
[02:00] <penguin-1> well if irc isnt your thinkg
[02:00] <hierophant> gareth if you hate it why are you on it
[02:00] <penguin-1> thing*
[02:00] <penguin-1> you have aim?
[02:00] <Tanooki> soundray:  Again, 'The group 'admin' does not exist.'
[02:00] <Cerveza> let me check
[02:01] <gareth> because i need help, thatws why
[02:01] <gareth> how do i change my name in this stupid room!?!?!
[02:01] <redguy> Cerveza: libgl1-mesa-dev perhaps?
[02:01] <redguy> gareth: don't shout
[02:02] <paradizelost> gareth: /nick username
[02:02] <redguy> gareth: /nick newnick
[02:02] <penguin-1> gareth: type /nick then nick you want
[02:02] <gareth> i wasnt
[02:02] <paradizelost> gareth: all the !!!'s says shouting
[02:02] <silverpower> I have to restart networking services to reacquire the DHCP lease quite a bit (still sorting my Linksys after a reset and firmware reload), but I haven't found a better way to get it to behave short of rebooting. How does Ubuntu do it?
[02:02] <paradizelost> silverpower: dhclient3 eth#
[02:02] <soundray> Tanooki: sorry, my line keeps going down
[02:02] <toodles> Cerveza, what redguy said should work, nevermind the make/model
[02:02] <paradizelost> silverpower: sudo dhclient3 eth#
[02:03] <Cerveza> yeah
[02:03] <Cerveza> it did
[02:03] <penguin-1> gareth: now type /msg nickserv register passwordyouwant
[02:03] <redguy> silverpower: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[02:03] <Cerveza> thanks Red-Sox
[02:03] <penguin-1> and you can pm
[02:03] <Red-Sox> Cerveza: What did I do?
[02:03] <Tanooki> soundray: I got the same response, 'admin' doesn't exist.
[02:03] <Red-Sox> Cerveza: Oh, you ment redguy I s'pose :)
[02:03] <redguy> silverpower: assuming eth0 is the interface you want to refresh
[02:03] <paradizelost> redguy: that may not always renew the lease
[02:03] <Cerveza> sorry
[02:03] <Cerveza> redguy,
[02:03] <Cerveza> mybad
[02:03] <ompaul> !enter
[02:03] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[02:03] <ompaul> Cerveza, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that line above this one
[02:03] <ircbrowser99> back again. anyone happen to know offhand howto invoke the vnc server from an ssh session (remotely) ?
[02:04] <redguy> paradizelost: huh? in what circumstances it won't?
[02:04] <soundray> Tanooki: I think I would reinstall if I were you.
[02:04] <Cerveza> my bad ompaul
[02:04] <Tanooki> I'm going to reinstall.
[02:04] <Elazar> paradizelost: I'm checking the permissions from Ubuntu... they're wide open.
[02:04] <paradizelost> redguy: it would usually keep the address it already had IIRC
[02:04] <Cerveza> wasn't paying attention to what I was writing'
[02:04] <redguy> paradizelost: running dhclient is not without drawbacks as well, I suppose
[02:04] <silverpower> redguy: It is, though I wasn't aware that Ubuntu doesn't use the init system to take care of that.
[02:04] <soundray> ircbrowser99: just enter vncserver
[02:04] <redguy> paradizelost: it's not how it works
[02:04] <ompaul> Tanooki, come back with the new install - then you can get all the useful help we can give :)
[02:05] <redguy> silverpower: you might as well /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:05] <soundray> ircbrowser99: or x11vnc to attach a running X session
[02:05] <ircbrowser99> soundray: the host is remote and sitting at the ubuntu login screen. i'm logged in remotely via ssh
[02:05] <redguy> silverpower: but ifdown and ifup are more selective
[02:05] <soundray> ircbrowser99: so?
[02:05] <paradizelost> ircbrowser99: you want x11vnc
[02:05] <ircbrowser99> soundray: ohhhh, trying...
[02:06] <Sky0231> Does anyone here have experience setting up a dual monitor Xorg.conf?
[02:06] <silverpower> redguy: Hmm, that didn't work for me last time I attempted it...
[02:06] <pablo_> hi!i did sudo cp -ravfp /home/draco/. /home/draco2/ | chown -Rv draco2 /home/draco2/
[02:06] <paradizelost> ircbrowser99: if you add the following to your /etc/gdm/Init/Default file, it will start x11vnc on gdm startup, and you can connect in from there.
[02:06] <ircbrowser99> soundray: vncserver: command not found. locate vncserver = no hits
[02:06] <paradizelost> ircbrowser99: x11vnc -scale 0.75 -rfbauth /home/dan/.vnc/passwd -bg -q -forever -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -gone 'xscreensaver-command -lock' -shared
[02:06] <pablo_> but it didnt copy all files
[02:06] <pablo_> any ideas?
[02:06] <paradizelost> ircbrowser99: apt-get install x11vnc
[02:07] <soundray> ircbrowser99: 'sudo apt-get install vncserver x11vnc'
[02:07] <ircbrowser99> paradizelost: ty. trying
[02:07] <paradizelost> ircbrowser99: you will need to restart gdm after adding that though
[02:07] <redguy> silverpower: how come? maybe running dhclient as paradizelost suggests might work better for you since networking restart basically does ifdown -a ; ifup -a
[02:07] <paradizelost> ircbrowser99: and of course make the appropriate changes to where the vnc passwd file is
[02:08] <Sky0231> I am trying to set up a dual monitor system, and I have set up the Xorg.conf file with both vid cards, monitors, and set up the screens, assigned them, and changed the server layout, but even after I reboot, the one monitor will not turn on. Any ideas?
[02:08] <ircbrowser99> paradizelost, soundray: putting on my learning curve hat, wish me luck. thanks
[02:08] <spikeb_> hmm banshee seems to suck less
[02:08] <silverpower> redguy: ...wait...dhclient?!
[02:08] <paradizelost> silverpower: dhclient3 from a terminal
[02:09] <paradizelost> silverpower: sudo dhclient3 eth#
[02:09] <redguy> # being 0,1 and so on
[02:09] <silverpower> paradizelost: I get the idea, but *dhclient*?!
[02:10] <Nihil85> hi! how to set the layer for a keyboard using the bash?
[02:10] <Nihil85> hi! how to set the layer for a keyboard using the bash?
[02:10] <paradizelost> dhcp client
[02:10] <silverpower> I assumed Ubuntu used dhcpcd like every other distro I've used.
[02:10] <paradizelost> silverpower: i used to use gentoo, it threw me for a loop fora while too
[02:11] <silverpower> paradizelost: *I* use Gentoo exclusively. My *sister* uses Ubuntu.
[02:12] <imc1> anyone on this networkmanager problem?
[02:12] <Inazad> Anyone can help me with sftp ?
[02:12] <silverpower> She likes it, and she's decent at maintaining it, but when I have to step in, I constantly trip over the differences.
[02:12] <redguy> !ask
[02:12] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[02:12] <toodles> Inazad, whats the problem?
[02:13] <Inazad> toodles, wait me a minute..
[02:14] <silverpower> paradizelost, redguy, thanks, though. You two've been quite helpful.
[02:15] <Nihil85> hi! how to set the layer for a keyboard using the bash?
[02:15] <soundray> Nihil85: if you don't get an answer, something might be wrong with your question.
[02:16] <Nihil85> soundray: how i can change the layout of my keyboard, if dpkgreconfigure-xerverxorg doesn't work? I need a command to be used in the bas(bash, terminal however it's named)
[02:17] <Nihil85> soundray: now is the question right?
[02:17] <bimberi> Nihil85: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[02:17] <silverpower> Nihil85: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only reconfigures the X server. It won't take care of the console.
[02:17] <requiem_> Hi !!
[02:17] <Nihil85> bimberi: i've done this, but it doesn't work
[02:17] <requiem_> any Mexican Girld??
[02:17] <Nihil85> silverpower: so what's the command line to change the keyboard layout?
[02:17] <soundray> Nihil85, add the Keyboard Indicator applet to the panel and configure it. You will then be able to switch between different international layouts
[02:18] <bimberi> Nihil85: yep, sorry you did ask for a command
[02:18] <Nihil85> bimberi: don't worry
[02:18] <requiem_> how enable the root password in ubuntu friends?
[02:18] <bimberi> ubotu tell requiem_ about root
[02:18] <paradizelost> requiem_: i could tell you but then i'd have to kill you
[02:18] <silverpower> Nihil85: Dunno. I vaguely recall how to do it on Gentoo, but not Ubuntu.
[02:18] <paradizelost> !root
[02:18] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:18] <toodles> NigelS_, Make sure have you updated you system. I know there was bugs before, depending on what version of ubuntu you are using.
[02:19] <zcat[1] > requiem_: it's easy. First log in as root!
[02:19] <paddygman> hey all
[02:19] <zcat[1] > then set a password .
[02:19] <requiem_> yes
[02:19] <paddygman> anyone free for a question regarding network adapters
[02:19] <soundray> !ask
[02:19] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[02:20] <bimberi> Nihil85: 'apropos keyboard' and see if any of those commands help
[02:20] <requiem_> it all ?? zcat?
[02:20] <paradizelost> paddygman: don't ask to ask, just ask the ?.
[02:20] <paradizelost> paddygman: if someone is free, they will answer
[02:20] <Nihil85> silverpower: thanks
[02:20] <arrick1>  !ask
[02:20] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[02:20] <paddygman> i have 2 network adapters both of which are connected one to a router the other to a cable modem i want to set the one connected to the cable modem as default but it always switches back
[02:20] <Nihil85> bimberi: can i bother you in pvt? i will show you the error i get
[02:21] <zcat[1] > seriously; it can be done but until you know enough to figure it out for yourself you probably shouldn't be logging in as root.
[02:21] <soundray> paddygman: swap the cables
[02:21] <paradizelost> paddygman: have you tried firestarter?
[02:21] <paddygman> tried that
[02:21] <paradizelost> paddygman: or try soundray's solution...
[02:21] <paradizelost> :d
[02:21] <capiCrimm> sorry for my ignorance, but I'm still not finding how I can write a telnet session to a file using screen?
[02:21] <requiem_> ok , i'm try
[02:21] <bimberi> Nihil85: sure, no guarantee that i'll know anything though
[02:21] <paddygman> isnt firestarted a firewall
[02:21] <silverpower> paddygman: What sort of router?
[02:21] <requiem_> thank's Zcat
[02:21] <paddygman> linksys
[02:21] <paddygman> its not the config i can access both
[02:21] <zcat[1] > capiCrimm: telnet somehost.tla | tee telnet.log
[02:21] <silverpower> You don't chain a Linksys like that.
[02:22] <zcat[1] > that should work.
[02:22] <arrick1> paddygman, gonna be hard cause ubuntu collides dual nicks, and will run only one "normally"
[02:22] <paddygman> i'd just prefer to get net through cable
[02:22] <paddygman> any ideas
[02:22] <silverpower> Cable modem -> Linksys -> your box.
[02:22] <paradizelost> paddygman: why are you trying to have a box behind a linux router AND connected to something else? usuall dual-nic is for load balancing or using it as a router
[02:22] <requiem_> it's complicate configure a usb internet conection whit a router 2wire model 1000?
[02:22] <paddygman> it always defaults to the linksys
[02:22] <capiCrimm> zcat[1] , but then I can see the telnet response. :\
[02:23] <requiem_> sorry 1'm rookie
[02:23] <paradizelost> paddygman: is it getting a dhcp address from the linksys?
[02:23] <paradizelost> that would be why
[02:23] <paddygman> got modem to linux box and 2nd modem to router to linux box
[02:23] <silverpower> dial-up modem?
[02:23] <paddygman> i can set the second card to either dhcp or static
[02:23] <zcat[1] > capiCrimm: just tried it now.. it's working for me.
[02:23] <requiem_> ok
[02:23] <capiCrimm> zcat[1] , nvm, seems I was forgetting the port. Do'h
[02:23] <paradizelost> paddygman: so your trying to have a redundant ISP?
[02:23] <paddygman> nahh are cable mdemsl
[02:23] <requiem_> let me see
[02:23] <paddygman> ??
[02:24] <paddygman> redundant cable modem
[02:24] <zcat[1] > ahhhh ok.
[02:24] <paddygman> i'm tryin to set up the machine as a server wi dns so i dont have to pay
[02:24] <paddygman> also runnin it as a game server off my second connection
[02:24] <paddygman> the first connection is for the windows users in the flat
[02:24] <paddygman> and that goes through tthe linksys connection which i share through
[02:25] <requiem_> thanks a lot friend
[02:25] <paddygman> any suggestions
[02:26] <silverpower> paddygman: Are you attempting to scam a singular ISP or are you attempting to use two ISPs with seperate modems and somehow integrate them?
[02:26] <paddygman> not scammin anyone
[02:26] <paddygman> i have 2 connections in the flat from the same isp
[02:27] <paddygman> 2 seperate modems with different ip's and accounts
[02:27] <TokenBad> has anyone ever used mdf2iso and actually got it to work?
[02:27] <silverpower> Oh, okay.
[02:27] <redguy> paddygman: so you want to change your default route, right?
[02:27] <paddygman> i just usin them to set up a server and use that to run my game server and share on the linksys network
[02:27] <paddygman> well through the admin gui i can set the default adapter
[02:27] <paddygman> but it keeps swappin back
[02:27] <paddygman> even if i change cables
[02:27] <Nihil85> hi all. Which was the command to set the keyboard layer with the terminal?
[02:28] <paradizelost> paddygman: good luck dual-homing  i've never been able to get that to work.
[02:28] <paradizelost> paddygman: even having hardwire/wireless both on on a laptop
[02:28] <paddygman> damn it
[02:28] <Ins|de> hello there, i need help configuriing my microphone, it works on skype but there's nothing else working! can anybody help? i'm using breezy
[02:28] <toodles> Nihil85, i cant really help you, but I think its called keyboard laybout, not layer
[02:28] <paradizelost> it will go through 1 and the only way to get it to use the other, that i've found, is to have the media disconnected.
[02:28] <silverpower> paddygman: You'll need to switch distros, or at the very least DHCP clients. dhclient does some seriously goofy things.
[02:29] <paddygman> at the mo am happy to settle for just one connection but prob is my isp is a dhcp connection so static is goin to cause havoc wi the modem
[02:30] <paradizelost> paddygman: most ISP's offer a static IP option...
[02:30] <paddygman> i usually run the modem connection dhcp and when needed i enable the other which hits default and make that a static ip to share on network
[02:30] <silverpower> paddygman: A Linksys is perfectly capable of handing out a Static IP keyed to a specific MAC and hostname. I use it all the time.
[02:30] <Nihil85> toodles: you're right. thanks
[02:30] <Nihil85> hi all. Which was the command to set the keyboard layout with the terminal?
[02:30] <paradizelost> paddygman: or you could go cablemodem> linux box> network, and just turn off routingon the linksys
[02:30] <paradizelost> and use it as a switch
[02:30] <silverpower> You won't need DHCP for the Linksys side then.
[02:31] <paddygman> hmm i could try to set up static ip to the modem
[02:31] <paddygman> neone kno how to get my default gateway from the ifconfig commanf
[02:31] <paddygman> command
[02:31] <TokenBad> take the lack of responce as no one has used it
[02:31] <paradizelost> paddygman: route
[02:31] <Ins|de> hello there, i need help configuriing my microphone, it works on skype but there's nothing else working! can anybody help? i'm using breezy
[02:31] <paddygman> kewl
[02:31] <silverpower> paddygman: I'd think you'd be better served asking a Linksys support channel.
[02:31] <paddygman> thanks
[02:31] <paddygman> nahh
[02:31] <paddygman> too much hassle
[02:32] <paddygman> linksys have an endless world of problems
[02:32] <silverpower> There's a couple channels dealing with custom firmwares, they'll know how to help you out.
[02:32] <paradizelost> paddygman: you could try DDWRT
[02:33] <redguy> paddygman: hmm also, you might want to disable dhcp for the interface connected to the router
[02:33] <paddygman> redguy its usually on a static neway
[02:33] <paddygman> i'l try route n see if i can get setup that way
[02:33] <paddygman> brb
[02:33] <paddygman> cheers btw
[02:34] <rab> hey how do i change my computers name?
[02:34] <redguy> paddygman: so if it isn't dhcp setting the default route what is?
[02:34] <toodles> NigelS_, do you need to change it perminantly, or just temperarily?
[02:34] <rab> perminatly
[02:34] <paddygman> redguy what??
[02:34] <ray_> how can I resize an NTFS partition from within linux non-destructively
[02:34] <paddygman> i use a static ip on the router to get on
[02:34] <paddygman> i use dhcp on modem
[02:35] <paradizelost> ray_:  god luck
[02:35] <paradizelost> good
[02:35] <paddygman> am goin to dc the router and try static on the modem
[02:35] <paddygman> if i get that goin should be ok
[02:35] <redguy> paddygman: set a static ip on the interface which is connected to the modem
[02:35] <rab> how do i change my computers name?
[02:35] <paddygman> thats wher i got stuck earlier about to retry
[02:35] <toodles> Nihil85_Away, do you need to change it perminantly, or just temperarily?
[02:35] <redguy> paddygman: so that it won't get the dhcp settings from the linksys router
[02:35] <paddygman> wasnt sure of my gateway so couldnt be sure
[02:35] <paddygman> dhcp is off on the router
[02:36] <paddygman> i have control on that
[02:36] <ray_> how can I resize an NTFS partition from within linux non-destructively
[02:36] <redguy> paddygman: also you might read into man dhclient.conf and set it not to accept the default gateway dhcp option on the interface connected to the router if
[02:36] <paradizelost> ray_:  try using partition magic
[02:36] <paradizelost> ray_: otherwise you may hose the partition
[02:37] <ray_> sigh...I didn't want to boot into windows
[02:37] <redguy> paddygman: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin then?
[02:37] <paddygman> redguy bit over my head and am a bit lazy at this hour to read but i'll give this a shot and may leave it ther for the night
[02:37] <paddygman> cheers for the tips tho
[02:37] <redguy> paddygman: np, good luck
[02:38] <virtk0s> is there an application for linux that lets you highlight (like physically highlighing, in yellow) a pdf?
[02:38] <paddygman> thanks
[02:38] <virtk0s> adobe pro does it on the windows side...
[02:39] <CarlK> <- on linux
[02:39] <CarlK> so I added the png, I don't see it
[02:40] <CarlK> hmm, not #qcad
[02:40] <harisund> I have a question. Using what libraries are programs like mc created?
[02:40] <harisund> I mean, is there something like a GTK+/wxWidgets/Qt for the console too?
[02:41] <nalioth> ray_: you may use an ubuntu LiveCd and use gparted for your ntfs resize
[02:41] <spikeb> harisund: yeah, stuff like ncurses
[02:41] <byen__> I need some direction guys!
[02:41] <byen__> please*
[02:41] <redguy> !ask
[02:41] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[02:42] <byen__> I have been getting kernel updates for the last 6 months.. how do I make sure I see the latest on the grub list
[02:42] <harisund> spikeb could you give a bit more information?
[02:42] <byen__> heck. how do i know which is the latest
[02:43] <redguy> byen__: look at the version numbers
[02:43] <spikeb> harisund: ncurses is a library that lets you draw stuff on the console, you could look up its website for more info
[02:43] <byen__> in synaptic redguy ?
[02:43] <odyssey> hello
[02:43] <lutra> hi
[02:43] <harisund> ok spikeb thanks .. are there other options? or is ncurses the best?
[02:44] <odyssey> hows it going
[02:44] <redguy> byen__: yes, or in grub
[02:44] <spikeb> harisund: yeah there are a variety of options for various things, there are ascii art libraries, and fancy graphical libraries, stuff like that
[02:44] <lutra> fine, you?
[02:46] <harisund> ok spikeb, I will have a look .. thanks ..
[02:46] <spikeb> harisund: no problem :)
[02:46] <DewDude> does anyone know the best solution for displaying movies on TV with an nvidia card?
[02:47] <odyssey> i have i question about lan network
[02:47] <DewDude> i'm not particually worried about being able to use the monitor for other things
[02:48] <byen__> guys uname -a gives me Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-k7 #1 Fri Apr 28 13:58:48 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:48] <byen__>  is that the latest k7 for Breezy?
[02:48] <odyssey> how do you share files from one pc to another on the same router with different os
[02:49] <odyssey> on a lan from xp to ubuntu
[02:49] <roostishaw> how do i add videos to an ipod on ubuntu?
[02:49] <digen> odyssey, use samba for sharing file between Linux & windows
[02:50] <odyssey> do you know the wiki for samba
[02:50] <odyssey> and does samba able to do printing jobs as well
[02:50] <redguy> DewDude: nvtv perhaps?
[02:50] <digen> odyssey, here you go > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[02:50] <redguy> I'm using it
[02:50] <digen> odyssey, yes you can share a printer with samba too.
[02:51] <odyssey> thankyou very much
[02:51] <capiCrimm> anyone know how to open a new tab in firefox through the CLI?
[02:51] <odyssey> thank you digen
[02:51] <DewDude> redguy, i'm looking at that right now
[02:51] <digen> odyssey: welcome :)
[02:51] <byen__> can anyone tell me if I am using the right/latest k7 kernel? my uname -a gives me Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-k7 #1 Fri Apr 28 13:58:48 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:52] <capiCrimm> hrm, nvm it seems to do that by default, how do you open a new window.
[02:52] <LuframMorder> que demonios
[02:52] <redguy> byen__: well, seems newer than mine :-)
[02:53] <byen__> :) lol..  redguy  the reason why I am asking is.. after the recent update pf the k7 kernel my pc is going beserk! the cp fan, memory management and the processor use
[02:54] <redguy> byen__: hmm, maybe I shouldn't upgrade then :-)
[02:55] <byen__> redguy, it could just be me. but its really ruuning heavy.. even on XFce
[02:56] <redguy> byen__: you sure that this is caused by the new kernel?
[02:56] <byen__> caused after updating it redguy
[02:56] <Tater> Hey all I use smb4k to manage my shares and all of a sudden after a reboot I can no longer connect to my windows shares the connection keeps getting refused
[02:56] <s|k> ba
[02:57] <digen> Tater, windows firewall?
[02:57] <PVZ> can spca5xx be installed on ubuntu?
[02:57] <redguy> byen__: this is odd. Don't know how to help you though. Got to go anyways
[02:57] <Tater> digen, its server2k and afaik nothing on it has changed, I can still connect to the shares using my desktop XP install
[02:57] <redguy> byen__: maybe you should submit a bug report?
[02:58] <redguy> byen__: or try asking in here again, maybe someone else will help you
[02:58] <redguy> byen__: bye
[02:58] <digen> Tater, what about accessing it using smbclient?
[02:58] <byen__> redguy, I just wanted to see if it was only me.. but seems like no one updates at all
[02:58] <tuxuser19> there is a problem with my printer on my ubuntu breezy pc. it is a hppsc1210 usb printer. the pc recognizes after i connect it to the usb port and the config goes smoothely >System>Admin>Printing way and when I add the printer I can see there is an option to add detected printers. But when I click "test page" nothing happens with the printer...what might be the reason
[02:58] <Lord_Maynoth> how do you install windows apps with wine???
[02:58] <Tater> digen, never tried I don't know how to mount files using that
[02:59] <paradizelost> tuxuser19: could be the type of driver your using
[02:59] <digen> Tater, it doesnt mount.its similar to using FTP on the client side.
[02:59] <paradizelost> Lord_Maynoth: the best way i use is to use crossoverofice
[02:59] <digen> Tater, smbclient -L "IP-of-Windows-PC" -N, without the quotes.
[02:59] <Lord_Maynoth> but crossover office isn't free
[03:00] <paradizelost> it has better compatitbility than straight wine.
[03:00] <paradizelost> and it's a project worth supporting
[03:00] <paradizelost> toherwise, wine file.exe
[03:00] <paradizelost> or set up your environment with winesetuptk
[03:01] <capiCrimm> anyone know a good way to download a safari book for local comsuption?
[03:01] <Tater> digen dosn't work
[03:01] <st3v3dnd> Does anyone know how I can make mplayer retain the original aspect ratio when enlarging the view window?
[03:02] <tuxuser19> paradizelost: but what I can see is the printer is listed in the ubtuntu s printer list i have tried the hppsc1210 option and the autodetect option it wont do anythin
[03:02] <harisund> capiCrimm: I would be interested in finding a way for that too. Even with a subscription it could become a pain really.
[03:02] <digen> Tater, what error if any?
[03:02] <Tater> anonymous login successful then it returns an error saying it can't grab the browse list and the connection fails
[03:02] <paradizelost> tuxuser19: are you using cups?
[03:02] <Tater> digen, can I pm you with a paste
[03:02] <digen> Tater, ok
[03:02] <capiCrimm> harisund, I'm building a script right now, but it's such a pain(at least in scheme... )
[03:03] <harisund> lol that capiCrimm. What are you using to build that script? I mean, what components are you calling?
[03:03] <tuxuser19> paradizelost, ya...but i have messed up my cups a bit in the pastfew weeks but finally i have reinstalled it by copying the config files from other pc
[03:03] <capiCrimm> harisund, url.ss(in mzscheme).
[03:04] <harisund> oooh . ok .. all the best !
[03:04] <jksd> hi, I've just set an extra partition with gparted, installed windows on it, and now when I set the linux partition as the active partition i just get 'Missing OS' at bootup, can anyone help?
[03:04] <capiCrimm> I already had to write a python script around it since using both https and http seemed to be too much trouble.
[03:04] <tuxuser19> paradizelost, how to check if the cups is properly installed & working ?
[03:04] <paradizelost> tuxuser19: not sure off had, /etc/init.d/cupsd restart possibly, are you using KDE or gnome?
[03:05] <bloekish> hi, i'm having some trouble installing unbuntu 5.10 to an external USB HD attached to my laptop (compaq n410c). I followed the instruction as per http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811, but when i try to boot off the usb hd, grub returns 'error 21'. the laptop gives 'boot from usb hard drive' as an option so seems like it should be supported. any help much appreciated! :)
[03:05] <lwizardl> Hi
[03:05] <tuxuser19> pradizelost:  i have done the restarting etc.. & im using Gnome
[03:05] <jksd> do I need a live CD or something?
[03:05] <sarixe> anyone: is dapper close to ready for normal use yet, and if so, should I use alpha 7 or beta 2?
[03:05] <lutra> sarixe: alpha 7 is the latest release
[03:06] <paradizelost> bloekish: make sure you loaded grub onto the external not the internal drive.
[03:06] <lutra> sarixe: it's pretty stable...it will be released in 3 weeks or so
[03:06] <sarixe> lutra: nice... i'll just wait then
[03:06] <bloekish> paradizelost: yes grub is on /dev/sda
[03:06] <sarixe> lutra: thanks
[03:06] <lutra> sarixe: np
[03:06] <paradizelost> bloekish: make sure that your internal isn't a sata, i had that problem on my laptop
[03:07] <lwizardl> has there been a easy way to get sun java re1.4 installed yet?
[03:07] <jksd> hi, I've just set an extra partition with gparted, installed windows on it, and now when I set the linux partition back as the active partition i just get 'Missing OS' at bootup, can anyone help?
[03:07] <tuxuser19> paradizelost, when the pc asks for the "port no" how to find the proper USB port number like for example there will be USB-1,USB-2,USB-3 etc...how to know to which USB port number the port is connected
[03:07] <lutra> jksd: did you install windows first or second?
[03:08] <paradizelost> bloekish: also, make sure when you install grub to a boot sector, you did it to (HD1) if that's your USB drive
[03:08] <jksd> lutra: second
[03:08] <lutra> jksd: you should install windows first
[03:08] <paradizelost> tuxuser19: it would say that there was a device connected
[03:08] <lutra> jksd: you'll need to reinstall grub
[03:08] <jksd> lutra: ahh I see
[03:08] <jksd> lutra: how can I do that without logging into ubuntu?>
[03:09] <lutra> jksd: do you have a live cd?
[03:09] <jksd> lutra: live cd?
[03:09] <bloekish> paradizelost: grub is installed to /dev/sda
[03:09] <jksd> lutra: I'm downloading one right now
[03:09] <lutra> jksd: i think running grub-install or some similar command you can reinstall grub
[03:09] <paradizelost> bloekish: the /boot may be on /dev/sda, but you need to run grub setup to install into the MBR of the usb device
[03:09] <jksd> jksd: where do I run grub-install from? the live cd?
[03:10] <jksd> er
[03:10] <jksd> heh
[03:10] <jksd> lutra: where do I run grub-install from? the live cd?
[03:10] <jksd> talking to myself
[03:10] <lutra> jksd: do you know what device your linux partition is.../dev/hda1, /dev/hdc1 and so on
[03:10] <bloekish> paradizelost: yeah it's pata internally. i noticed that /boot/grub/devices.map listed hd0 as /dev/hda and hd1 as /dev/sda, walkthrough included changing menu.lst entries to root=(hd0,0) so i tried switching the device.map around but no joy there
[03:10] <lutra> jksd: yeah from a terminal in ubuntu
[03:10] <lutra> off the live cd
[03:10] <jksd> lutra: I think it's /dev/hda2
[03:10] <transgress_> does wpa not work with broadcom in linux?
[03:10] <bloekish> paradizelost: the whole install is to one big partition on the external drive
[03:10] <lutra> jksd: ok then 'grub-install /dev/hda2'
[03:10] <paradizelost> bloekish: did you do a setup (hd1)?
[03:10] <jksd> lutra: alright, thanks v. much for your help
[03:11] <lutra> jksd: omitting ' ' of course
[03:11] <jksd> lutra: k
[03:11] <paradizelost> bloekish: from in grub?
[03:11] <paradizelost> bloekish: because the ubuntu installer would install the bootloader to the MBR on the internal no matter what
[03:12] <Dingo> which editor do you guys recommend to create python files, besides gedit?
[03:12] <bloekish> paradizelost: no, when the ubuntu installer said it was about to install to MBR of /dev/sda i told it to do it on /dev/sda
[03:13] <bloekish> paradizelost: does grub-install work from the rescue mode from the install cd? could re-run it maybe
[03:13] <bloekish> paradizelost: i mean it wanted to do hda, told it to do sda instead
[03:14] <paradizelost> bloekish: should work.  you could also alt+f2 out of the installer
[03:15] <bloekish> paradizelost: ok i'll check what partitions the installer actually made. think it may be a simple case of foolish assumptions on my part, it's late here ;)
[03:15] <The^nike> hello
[03:16] <paradizelost> bloekish: i'll boot up my USB install and double check my ocnfig for you. i had some problems when i initially set it up as well.
[03:16] <The^nike> i need help plzzz
[03:16] <paradizelost> !ask
[03:16] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[03:16] <paradizelost> The^nike: just ask your question
[03:17] <The^nike> i like install 1 ircd but
[03:17] <The^nike> ..
[03:17] <The^nike> Could not create directory path /usr/local/ircd/.
[03:17] <The^nike> dont have acces in usr/local ...
[03:17] <Dingo> which editor do you guys recommend to create python files, besides gedit?
[03:17] <paradizelost> The^nike: are you using sudo?
[03:17] <paradizelost> Dingo: gvim
[03:17] <paradizelost> !
[03:17] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[03:17] <The^nike> yes
[03:17] <Kyral> lol
[03:18] <|rt|> is there a url that lists the packages available for ubuntu?
[03:18] <The^nike> i dotn have root password ..
[03:18] <paradizelost> |rt|: try using synaptic
[03:18] <The^nike> :(
[03:18] <Dingo> paradizelost: thx I'll check that.. can it indent entire bunches of code?
[03:18] <|rt|> paradizelost: not running ubuntu currently
[03:18] <paradizelost> The^nike: then your not gonna get far installing software
[03:18] <paradizelost> |rt|: try a livecd
[03:18] <paradizelost> Dingo: yes  i use it a lot for perl
[03:19] <Dingo> paradizelost: perfect, thx!!
[03:19] <paradizelost> and if you get perl::tidy it will auto-do stuff
[03:19] <|rt|> paradizelost: ok....is everything available in drake that's available in breezy?
[03:19] <bimberi> |rt|: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:19] <DJ_Music> hi
[03:19] <paradizelost> |rt|: i'm not much on drake ATM
[03:19] <DJ_Music> all
[03:19] <|rt|> bimberi: thanks that's a bit easier
[03:19] <DJ_Music> can somebody help me ?
[03:19] <paradizelost> DJ_Music: !ask
[03:19] <arrick1> !ask
[03:19] <paradizelost> !ask
[03:19] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[03:19] <DJ_Music> i lost my root pass for my ubuntu
[03:20] <DJ_Music> how can i get new ?
[03:20] <arrick1> DJ_Music,
[03:20] <paradizelost> do you have sudo access?
[03:20] <arrick1> !root
[03:20] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:20] <cristiano> oi
[03:20] <steveire> Hi.
[03:20] <cristiano> tem alguem ae ?
[03:20] <steveire> I've just installed education-mathematics
[03:21] <paradizelost> cristiano: i don't know latin
[03:21] <steveire> There's no change to my system though. Do I need to install something else to use it?
[03:21] <cristiano> eu naum sei falar outra lingua ...
[03:21] <steveire> !education
[03:21] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, steveire
[03:22] <cristiano> como eu fao para intalar o synaptic ???
[03:22] <steveire> Is there a main package, or anything else that I need?
[03:22] <bbrazil> !br
[03:22] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:22] <derekj212> hey i wanted some help upgrading from breezy to dapper... i followed that command in the FAQ and got through downloading some files until i got a 404 and the installer crashed. i have restarted a few times to retry and i wanted to see if i was doing something wrong
[03:23] <steveire> What does it mean to say that a package is a metapackage?
[03:23] <avestita> any moroccan here?
[03:23] <paradizelost> !metapackage
[03:23] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[03:23] <bimberi> steveire: that it depends on other packages and nothing else
[03:24] <steveire> So what else do I need to use education-mathematics?
[03:24] <steveire> I thought adept would get sll dependant packages automatically.
[03:24] <derekj212> has anyone else tried upgrading from breezy to dapper?
[03:24] <steveire> all*
[03:24] <paradizelost> steveire:    http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/warty/misc/education-mathematics
[03:24] <Mastastealth> derek: yes
[03:24] <avestita> derekj212 yes
[03:24] <avestita> me
[03:24] <derekj212> recently?
[03:25] <derekj212> im getting a 404 a bit into it
[03:25] <Mastastealth> flight 3
[03:25] <avestita> if u want can give u my list.sources :D
[03:25] <avestita> and juste upgrade
[03:25] <derekj212> ok
[03:25] <avestita> private
[03:25] <DJ_Music> am ..
[03:26] <steveire> Oh, so it's not what I thought it was...
[03:26] <DJ_Music> can i use comand su ?
[03:26] <paradizelost> !root
[03:26] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:26] <paradizelost> DJ_Music: does sudo work for you?
[03:26] <OrTigaS> DJ_Music:  just reboot and select recovery mode, then change ur passwd
[03:26] <avestita> yes
[03:26] <bimberi> steveire: it seems to only have "Suggests" and "Recommends" dependencies, which aren't going to be brought in
[03:26] <avestita> juste type passwd
[03:26] <avestita> it will give u the option to retype another one
[03:27] <avestita> and to confirm it
[03:27] <paradizelost> avestita: taht will change is current password
[03:27] <paradizelost> avestita: not neccessarily the root password which is what it sounds like what he wants
[03:28] <bimberi> !tell derekj212 about upgrade
[03:28] <avestita> yes i know
[03:28] <avestita> but i dont know if he wants to know its curren one
[03:28] <avestita> :s
[03:28] <steveire> cheers. Laterz
[03:28] <paradizelost> avestita: if he's logged in i think he knows his current one...
[03:28] <avestita> so what does he want so?
[03:28] <derekj212> ty bimberi
[03:28] <paradizelost> DJ_Music: does sudo work for you?!
[03:28] <bimberi> derekj212: np :)
[03:28] <derekj212> bimberi: that is the method that isnt working for me
[03:29] <derekj212> thats my problem
[03:29] <paradizelost> !tell DJ_Music about sudo
[03:29] <bimberi> derekj212: the upgrade-manager method?
[03:29] <avestita> derekj212 do u still want my sources
[03:29] <avestita> it will be easy to get the dapper
[03:29] <derekj212> avestita: let me try one more thing first
[03:29] <avestita> ok if u want :)
[03:29] <bimberi> derekj212: sorry *update-manager*
[03:29] <derekj212> where is the sources file
[03:29] <derekj212> what dir i mean
[03:29] <bimberi> /etc/apt
[03:29] <paradizelost> derekj212: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:29] <avestita> yep
[03:29] <avestita> sources.list
[03:31] <bloekish> paradizelost: i ran  grub-install '(hd0)'  and rebooted, still get grub error 21. devices.map shows (hd0) /dev/hda (hd1) /dev/sda, menu.lst refers to root=(hd1,0)
[03:31] <paradizelost> bloekish: does XP boot if you don't have the external hooked up?
[03:32] <derekj212> i figured it out
[03:32] <derekj212> i had a 3rd party source that was currently down
[03:32] <avestita> so?
[03:32] <derekj212> and it was hanging waiting for it while it searched for upgrades
[03:32] <bloekish> paradizelost: well it's slackware but yes ;)
[03:33] <lwizardl> what causes xml errors when bookmarking sites or trying to print ?
[03:33] <zokPT> Hy! I have a problem with gnome-panel, I get an error message box displayed
[03:33] <zokPT>  that says "I've detected a panel already running, and will now exit".
[03:33] <zokPT> If I click "OK" in this box it goes away, but immediatly reappears. It also apears a msg 'gnome-panel already running bla bla bla' ...who can help me plz???
[03:33] <paradizelost> bloekish: just a sec, switching to my laptop.
[03:35] <derekj212> how long does the downloading and updating to dapper take?
[03:35] <derekj212> at about 90k/s
[03:35] <avestita> ????
[03:35] <derekj212> i mean the install itself, not download
[03:35] <avestita> 1h
[03:35] <avestita> i think
[03:35] <avestita> cose the speed change
[03:36] <avestita> for me it did change
[03:36] <benplaut> derekj212: about an hour or so
[03:36] <avestita> but the dpkg takes time
[03:36] <benplaut> much less when you install from scratch, though
[03:36] <bloekish> paradizelost: to clarify- the internal drive has another linux install, this always boots np. the external drive has the new ubuntu install, one large / partition +swap +a tiny one that i don't think is /boot (not mounted anywhere, will check). bios gives option to boot from any device on startup (inc usb). grub gets to 'loading stage 1.5' then 'error 21'
[03:36] <avestita> long time
[03:36] <avestita> and u have to wait for that also
[03:36] <avestita> otherwise it will generate problems
[03:36] <derekj212> what is it
[03:36] <avestita> what?
[03:37] <derekj212> dpkg
[03:37] <avestita> ah
[03:37] <paradizelost> bloekish: you using grub on the slackware install?
[03:37] <avestita> depackeging
[03:37] <derekj212> ah
[03:37] <avestita> its depackage the packages and install them
[03:37] <avestita> u have to wait until the end means about 2h
[03:37] <avestita> and then reboot u will have the lastest kernel 2.6.15-22
[03:38] <avestita> and dapper distrub
[03:38] <bloekish> paradizelost: no lilo
[03:38] <avestita> its really worthful i assure u :)
[03:38] <derekj212> should i expect IPW2200 wireless to work still on dapper?
[03:38] <paradizelost> bloekish: you could do both from grub if you switched.
[03:38] <derekj212> avestita: its already started
[03:38] <paradizelost> just boot to the internal and have it load from the external
[03:38] <avestita> really dont know dont have wireless im under LAN connection
[03:39] <avestita> :s
[03:39] <derekj212> i shall find out
[03:39] <avestita> yes u have time to search
[03:39] <bloekish> paradizelost: ok sounds a good idea - so i use the internal to boot with grub and add entries for the external drive?
[03:39] <avestita> but really dapper support many things, under breezy my sound card didnt work
[03:39] <avestita> now everything is fine
[03:39] <paradizelost> bloekish: that's the way i'd recommend
[03:40] <harisund> Wow, I am running Dapper, and it seems almost every 3rd hour there are some updates :)
[03:40] <paradizelost> mine is ubuntu on external, windows on internal, so i have grub and all on my external, so if there's no external, it doesn't even boot to grub, just straight to windows
[03:40] <avestita> hh yes :)
[03:40] <avestita> and takes time to update
[03:40] <vdepizzol> will XGL be incluided in apt-get in ubuntu 6.06?
[03:41] <paradizelost> bloekish: i of course also have XGL working on that, for the most part
[03:41] <paradizelost> vdepizzol: i believe that XGL is very very alpha
[03:41] <paradizelost> !xgl
[03:41] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:41] <bloekish> paradizelost: sound. i was kinda curious about booting off the usb drive (new laptop, new toys) but really i just want to try out ubuntu these days. enough messing about, i'll get on it w/grub ;)
[03:41] <paradizelost> hey, tha'ts not true, i have xgl working on breezy
[03:41] <andax> i've just had a nice kernel oops on an otherwise rock solid machine, (ubuntu 5.10) this is my first crash. syslog begins with " localhost kernel: [4505414.553000]  Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00080004" followed by listing of loaded modules, then some cryptic messages about the kernel_thread_helper or something has died. The snippet of the logfile representing the crash is posted at http://www.andax.org/?q=node/53 , Someone who ha
[03:41] <andax> s better understanding what this means could plz have a look and tell me what i should do now.... thanks.
[03:41] <paradizelost> bloekish: you could just use the livecd...
[03:43] <bloekish> paradizelost: ah but i wasn't sure if i wanted kde or gnome, and i've only got one cdr left..
[03:43] <paradizelost> so, would changeing all the spots whre it says brezy in my /etc/apt/sources.list to dapper be an easy way to upgrade?!
[03:43] <paradizelost> bloekish: you could do what i did.  set up LTSP, and modify it so that the FS is rw, and install kdm
[03:43] <paradizelost> :D
[03:44] <paradizelost> the guys in ltsp just keep telling me that's not waht it's meant to do...
[03:44] <bloekish> paradizelost: LTSP? linux term server proj?
[03:44] <paradizelost> yep
[03:44] <paradizelost> i have about 20 boot options, a bunch of floppy disk images that i use for diagnostics all the time
[03:44] <paradizelost> ubuntu network installer, and more
[03:45] <paradizelost> :D
[03:45] <martin> HOLA A TODOS
[03:45] <bloekish> well my venerable old 233mhz latitude cp is now in retiremnt as a thinclient so..
[03:45] <martin> hola a todos
[03:45] <Mastastealth> hola martin
[03:45] <martin> hola
[03:45] <bloekish> helo to you and your todo lists
[03:46] <martin> hola
[03:46] <vdepizzol> please speak in english :)
[03:46] <martin> hola mastastealth
[03:46] <paradizelost> !engrish
[03:46] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[03:46] <bloekish> porque?!
[03:46] <spikeb> pork!
[03:47] <Mastastealth> tienes una pregunta martin? sabes ingles? ;)
[03:47] <vdepizzol> because a lot of people here can't speak in spanish :D
[03:47] <paradizelost> !boo
[03:47] <ubotu> paradizelost: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:47] <martin> no no se ingles y si tengo una pregunta
[03:47] <andax> generally if a  "kernel paging request" fails and causes the system to crash, does it indicate a hard disk failure or paging has nothing to do with swapping?
[03:48] <paradizelost> vdepizzol: http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
[03:48] <paradizelost> andax: could be bad memory as well
[03:48] <martin> resulta que el amule no me deja descargar las listas de servidores cuando lo abro e inesperadamente se cierra la aplicacion
[03:48] <paradizelost> andax: because memory is used in "pages" as well
[03:48] <andax> martin, use english or at least try it.
[03:48] <bloekish> very helpful with questions, pregnant or otherwise
[03:49] <paradizelost> andax: this isn't #ubuntu-en
[03:49] <Mastastealth> andax, he doesnt know, but his question is: that amule is not downloading the server lists and the abruptly closes
[03:49] <paradizelost> :D
[03:49] <andax> paradizelost, thanks, i'll run a memtest86 to se what happens.
[03:49] <avestita> derekj212 everything is going well???????
[03:49] <derekj212> avestita: yeah its just downloading
[03:49] <vdepizzol> paradizelost: ento cada um pode falar a lingua que quiser, ? ento vou eu falar o meu bom e velho portugus! :) --> http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
[03:49] <avestita> ok
[03:49] <Mastastealth> martin: no puedes importar los servidores manualmente?
[03:49] <avestita> im waiting with u :)
[03:49] <derekj212> several hours remaining as the speed keeps dropping to ~40k
[03:50] <martin> como lo puedo hacer
[03:50] <martin> soy novato en linux
[03:50] <avestita> dont worry it will increase
[03:50] <paradizelost> vdepizzol: sorry, i'm too lazy.....
[03:50] <martin> acabo de migrar de windows y me pase a ubuntu
[03:50] <Mastastealth> martin: dejame leer unas cositas para ver como hacerlo...
[03:50] <derekj212> yeah
[03:50] <martin> gracias
[03:51] <bloekish> more with the hideous google mistranslations. reminds me of when a german bloke's posting kept referring to 'large exhausts' from his applications.
[03:51] <paradizelost> ha!
[03:51] <Mastastealth> martin: no se queda habierto por ningun tiempo?
[03:51] <vdepizzol> martin: you can talk in spanish here: #ubuntu-es ... everyone will understand you ;)
[03:52] <bloekish> every day's a schoolday
[03:52] <paradizelost> hey, i'm gonna do an apt-get upgrade on my breezy w/ Xgl, who want's to bet it'll break??
[03:52] <rab> Is the "applications menu editor" always buggy?
[03:52] <martin> si por un instante y cuando le dosy descargar las listas de servidores lo hace por un instante y se cierra inesperadamente
[03:53] <bloekish> now open your books at page 'modern international relations in the information-driven world' (messrs BS and PR, 2005).
[03:53] <rab> can someone help me fix my applications menu
[03:53] <sarixe> would it be a good idea to install the latest dapper and upgrade it when the final comes out?
[03:53] <sarixe> or should i just wait?
[03:54] <bloekish> but anyway this is more fun than a halal butchers after the BSE scare, but i gotta sleep. night all, play nicely with the foreign people
[03:54] <paradizelost> sarixe: depends if you want to have it break or not... ;)
[03:54] <sarixe> lol
[03:54] <paradizelost> sarixe: not saying doing it will break...
[03:54] <sarixe> lol
[03:54] <sarixe> k
[03:54] <paradizelost> i haven't installed dapper yet...
[03:55] <sarixe> but would it be fairly simple to upgrade it in a few weeks? or should i just wait to install it?
[03:55] <paradizelost> !dapper
[03:55] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[03:55] <rab> can someone help me fix my applications menu
[03:55] <sarixe> i c
[03:55] <Mastastealth> martin: desculpas pero no puedo encontrar mucho, aqui puedes encontrar unos articulos de como usar aMule en espanol, pero yo tengo que irme...:(
[03:55] <Mastastealth> http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[03:55] <paradizelost> rab: might help to say what's wrong w/ it
[03:55] <martin> ok gracias de todas formas
[03:55] <zokPT> If I click "OK" in this box it goes away, but immediatly reappears. It also apears a msg 'gnome-panel already running bla bla bla' ...who can help me plz???
[03:56] <zokPT> If I click "OK" in this box it goes away, but immediatly reappears. It also apears a msg 'gnome-panel already running bla bla bla' ...who can help me plz???
[03:56] <Mastastealth> buena suerte :)
[03:56] <andax> why do some people think everyone will understand their own language? should i start talking in hungarian (that's my native) telling everyone to look for an online dictionary?  thats plain stupid. just being spanish is no excuse.
[03:56] <rab> paradizelost: Its very buggy, and some things that i enter dont show up right
[03:56] <paradizelost> !tell zokPT spam
[03:56] <paradizelost> zokPT: don't spam
[03:56] <sarixe> lol
[03:56] <Mastastealth> andax geez, if a guy needs help, someone who can speak his language will help
[03:56] <Mastastealth> otherwise ignore him, dont whine
[03:56] <paradizelost> rab: dapper or breezy?
[03:56] <Mastastealth> if a hungarian comes here, im sure youd help him too ;)
[03:56] <rab> breezy
[03:57] <andax> you got me i would.
[03:57] <zokPT> zokPT zokPT Hy! I have a problem with gnome-panel, I get an error message box displayed
[03:57] <zokPT> zokPT zokPT  that says "I've detected a panel already running, and will now exit".
[03:57] <zokPT> zokPT zokPT If I click "OK" in this box it goes away, but immediatly reappears. It also apears a msg 'gnome-panel already running bla bla bla' ...who can help me plz???
[03:57] <Mastastealth> well there ya go, we're all just trying to help our fellow ubuntuers :)
[03:57] <zcat[1] > !ops
[03:57] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:57] <rob> ?
[03:57] <rab> paradizelost: breezy
[03:58] <rob> zcat[1] , whats going on?
[03:58] <HedgeMage> what's up zcat[1]  ?
[03:58] <zcat[1] > zokPT doesn't seem to have got the hint?
[03:58] <nalioth> zcat[1] : yes?
[03:58] <benplaut> rob, HedgeMage, nalioth ... i think it's zokPT
[03:58] <HedgeMage> zcat[1] : he seems to have now.
[03:58] <rob> zcat[1] , regarding what?
[03:58] <paradizelost> rab: have you used automatix on that machine in the past?
[03:58] <zokPT> zcat[1] ,  dont understand what u mean
[03:58] <rab> paradizelost: yessir
[03:58] <paradizelost> rab: it F*cks things up big time
[03:59] <paradizelost> that's your problem .  don't use automatix
[03:59] <HedgeMage> rob, nalioth, repasting those three lines starting with his nick twice, repeatedly.
[03:59] <zcat[1] > nm.. just ignore me..
[03:59] <paradizelost> !automatix
[03:59] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:59] <rab> paradizelost: ...*sighs* anyway to fix it?
[03:59] <HedgeMage> but he seems to have stopped.
[03:59] <paradizelost> rab: reinstall...
[03:59] <rab> WTF NO
[03:59] <rob> well, I'll keep an eye out
[03:59] <rab> i just installed
[03:59] <paradizelost> rab: so you won't lose much...
[03:59] <rab> idc i dont have the time
[03:59] <paradizelost> can anyone help rab fix an automatix problem?
[04:00] <paradizelost> rab: try installing gentoo on it then.....
[04:00] <paradizelost> :D
[04:00] <rab> no
[04:00] <rob> well, I guess he shouldn't have used Automatix
[04:00] <rab> are there any alternitives for a menu editor
[04:00] <rob> it isn't offical after all, and is known to break systems
[04:00] <zcat[1] > Not sure what automatix screws up, but i'd suggest get a clean sources-list from source-o-matic and then apt-get dist-upgrade to clean things up..
[04:01] <paradizelost> rab: you'll probably end up reinstalling.
[04:01] <rob> who knows what automatix has screwed up
[04:01] <paradizelost> rab: i'm sory....
[04:01] <baconbacon> automatix screws a lot of things
[04:01] <rab> fuck..
[04:02] <paradizelost> well, it's official, my XGL install is now hosed...
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:02] <paradizelost> oh well.
[04:02] <rob> rab, automatix is really horrible as you found out (and not much we can do to stop), check out the wiki after you reinstall and follow the nice guides there, or better yet check out http://help.ubuntu.com (for breezy) or http://doc.ubuntu.com (dapper)
[04:02] <rob> bah
[04:02] <zcat[1] > my Xgl is all fixed again.. went weird after last night's updates, menus appearing behind their weindows and stuff. Updated today and it's sweet again.
[04:02] <rob> oh well
[04:03] <zcat[1] > gotta loce alpha software :)
[04:03] <zcat[1] > *love
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> zcat[1] , what hardware you runningit on?
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> xgl that is
[04:03] <zcat[1] > nvidia
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> ah, figures... the only video to do linux on
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> =D
[04:03] <paradizelost> zcat[1] : mine was on breezy, so it was a b!tch to get working
[04:04] <baconbacon> do you think xgl has any chance running on a lousy intel laptop card?
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> no
[04:04] <thev> anyone here know much about SANE?
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> way
[04:04] <thev> I'm going inSANE
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> baconbacon, no way
[04:04] <zcat[1] > yeah.. until someone does some open hardware.. I'm not happy with nvidia's blob..
[04:04] <Spitty> well, which laptop card?
[04:04] <paradizelost> baconbacon: probly not, IIRC, intel disables a lot of opengl hardware compatibilites
[04:04] <baconbacon> 82852/855GM
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> zcat[1] , true, but at least it works
[04:04] <Spitty> I don't think so, no
[04:04] <baconbacon> ok just asking
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> i have an ati mobility and i know it won't
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> but was hoping
[04:05] <paradizelost> i had a lot of laptops that couldn't run really slick scrensavers
[04:05] <zcat[1] > yeah, but I have this little stallman on my shoulder now..
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> or bzflag
[04:05] <Spitty> it runs on my ati mobility
[04:05] <Spitty> x200m
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> ah
[04:05] <paradizelost> just stay away from intel graphics cards
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> yea, this is circa 2000 laptop
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> totally
[04:05] <baconbacon> hmm i can play most games to ...
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> baconbacon, but not bzflag...
[04:06] <zcat[1] > my lappy's ati mobility. No way it'll run Xgl :(  but still runs dapper ok.
[04:06] <paradizelost> baconbacon: are you using windows directx?
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> anything doing high 3D rendering
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> zcat[1] , ya dapper is good on this dell, but locks up occasionally
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> only seen that on Debian... and dapper
[04:07] <baconbacon> bzflag did lag a bit..
[04:07] <nomasteryoda> or tuxracer
[04:07] <baconbacon> but tux, neverball, etc... were ok
[04:07] <zcat[1] > never had it lock up on the lappy (it's a dell too) but the machine with the nvidia and xgl locks up quite often.. i suspect dodgy hardware though.
[04:07] <pestilence> how do i figure out what process is listening on a certain port?
[04:07] <baconbacon> oh wait no that's another machine, tux sucks too
[04:08] <zcat[1] > pestilence: netstat
[04:08] <paradizelost> ayone have a link to dapper flight 7 install cd?
[04:08] <pestilence> zcat[1] : yes, but how
[04:08] <pestilence> zcat[1] : it shows up in netstat -l -t, but not netstat -l
[04:08] <zcat[1] > umm.. I dunno  :)
[04:08] <Spitty> the only time I've had my daper lock up is when I was trying bleeding-edge XGL stuff
[04:08] <paradizelost> baconbacon: there's your sign that opengl is off for the most part
[04:08] <paradizelost> !dapper
[04:08] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:08] <zcat[1] > I think netstat gives you the pID then you look that up in ps
[04:08] <pestilence> zcat[1] : it gives an "inode"
[04:09] <Spitty> paradizelost: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight7?highlight=%287%29%7C%28Flight%29
[04:09] <zcat[1] > ahh, ok.
[04:09] <pestilence> what do i do with it
[04:09] <zcat[1] > flight9 > beta2 ?
[04:09] <baconbacon> flight7 > beta2
[04:09] <paradizelost> thanks
[04:09] <Spitty> we're not up to flight 9 yet, I don't think., but flight 7 is greater than beta 2, yes
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> that's where i'm at now... Linux 2.6.15-21-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Apr 21 16:43:33 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:10] <zcat[1] > confusing.. I think I'll just track the repos :)
[04:10] <avestita> there is  2.6.15-22 better
[04:10] <avestita> :)
[04:12] <voraistos> hey guys! i was wondering if there was an ultimate manual for ubuntu, or just for linux in general ?
[04:13] <paradizelost> !manual
[04:13] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[04:13] <bbrazil> voraistos: try browsing tldp.org
[04:14] <voraistos> ok i take a look
[04:14] <bradley_> hello everyone!
[04:14] <bbrazil> voraistos: if there's some specific are you're interested in, we'll probably be able to give you some good links
[04:14] <NoUse> voraistos http://help.ubuntu.com
[04:15] <bradley_> my computer is stuck at 800x600 resolution but i've run at 1024x768 so i know my computer is capable... as far as i know my xserver xorg file is correctly setup... any tips?
[04:15] <borandon> Hi guys... I installed ubuntu and I don't remember setting up a root account
[04:15] <paradizelost> bradley_:  double check your drivers
[04:15] <voraistos> bbrazil: in fact, i am happy to use linux, and there is here, and the website, lot of help, but i still dont understand how the thing really works.
[04:15] <crimsun> that's because you didn't, borandon
[04:15] <paradizelost> !tell borandon about root
[04:15] <borandon> thank god
[04:16] <borandon> ty
[04:16] <bradley_> paradizelost: any ideas how to do that? <-- complete noob
[04:16] <borandon> vm
[04:16] <paradizelost> bradley_: what graphics card?
[04:16] <bradley_> matrox i beleive
[04:16] <bbrazil> voraistos: try the boot to bash guide on that site - that's a pretty low-level guide that'll give you a good feel for some of the inner workings
[04:16] <bradley_> any way to check for sure?
[04:17] <paradizelost> dunno what to tell ya w/ those.   http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm
[04:17] <renato> can anyone give me an nvidia one line??
[04:17] <renato> install
[04:17] <paradizelost> renato: like a joke?
[04:17] <paradizelost> renato: graphics, network or audio?
[04:17] <voraistos> bbrazil: thx! i really am ashamed of still thinking in the windows way. thank u for your help.
[04:17] <renato> paradizelost, graphics... im having trouble installing it
[04:18] <renato> fx 5500
[04:18] <paradizelost> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:18] <bradley_> paradizelost: i have a Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP
[04:18] <renato> paradizelost, ive tried that and had to reinstall the sistem
[04:18] <paradizelost> change your driver line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, that says nv, to nvidia
[04:18] <bbrazil> voraistos:  *think* there's a beginners guide on that site too
[04:18] <renato> paradizelost, the screen stayed white
[04:19] <renato> paradizelost, I did reconfiguring x
[04:19] <paradizelost> then download from nvidia's webside and follow readme...
[04:19] <renato> no...ive done it before in another way
[04:19] <renato> someone here explained it perfectly
[04:19] <paradizelost> renato: then try what you did before
[04:19] <matt__> i have a problem with my printer on dapper.  I used the gnome-cups-manager to install my hp-5000 as an HP JetDirect Printer.  I was able to print a test page to it, but it would only print to A4, if i changed to letter, it ignored me.  i started gnome-cups-manager as root and changed it.  However, now i cannot print anything
[04:19] <matt__> any ideas?
[04:20] <jose__> hola, alguien habla espaol?
[04:20] <renato> paradizelost, ok thanks
[04:20] <paradizelost> matt__: a lot of the time you can force the printer to change a4 to letter
[04:20] <NoUse> !es
[04:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:20] <matt__> problem is now it doesnt print anything and i cannot set it back  to a4
[04:20] <jose__> ok thanks
[04:20] <paradizelost> matt__: have you removed and re-installed it?
[04:21] <matt__> repeatedly
[04:21] <paradizelost> matt__: does the printer work when you try a test page?
[04:21] <paradizelost> matt__:  or from another machine?
[04:21] <paradizelost> just making sure
[04:22] <matt__> not now.. it did until i switched it to letter now i do not get a print nor an error.. it just sits
[04:22] <Tsingi> I just installed 6.06 over old system, kept home, didn't get an option to configure X
[04:22] <paradizelost> matt__: you wouldn't happen to be UK?
[04:22] <Tsingi> system is at 640x480, no adjustment
[04:22] <NoUse> !xorg
[04:22] <ubotu> xorg is, like, totally, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[04:22] <paradizelost> Tsingi: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-x11
[04:22] <Tsingi> paradizelost: thanks
[04:23] <matt__> no, texas
[04:23] <NoUse> Tsingi run the command ubotu just posted
[04:23] <paradizelost> Tsingi: do as NoUse said
[04:23] <matt__> if i was in uk i would have left it as a4 which would have worked fine to begin with
[04:23] <paradizelost> just 2x checking
[04:23] <paradizelost> :D
[04:23] <matt__> it seems to be a pam error
[04:23] <matt__> i dont know what pam is
[04:23] <paradizelost> if you go to the printer and print a test page, does it work?
[04:23] <Kr0ntab> sup folks...
[04:24] <matt__> yes
[04:24] <paradizelost> does it print if you are loged in as root?
[04:24] <matt__> no
[04:24] <paradizelost> Kr0ntab: sup
[04:24] <matt__> not now...
[04:24] <matt__> it printed 10 min ago
[04:24] <matt__> then i switched to letter and no more printing
[04:24] <paradizelost> matt__: make sure you don't have any print jobs clogging the print queue
[04:25] <matt__> i have cleared them
[04:25] <matt__> should i delete the cups directory in /etc?
[04:25] <Biodieseler> Hey.... quick question....
[04:25] <matt__> and start over
[04:25] <matt__> something has changed
[04:25] <matt__> and i cannot find the file it modifed
[04:26] <paradizelost> NO!
[04:26] <Biodieseler> how do i let my ubuntu laptop know that i am the owner of the files on the partition I mounted.
[04:26] <paradizelost> matt__: in a browser open http://localhost:631
[04:26] <matt__> okay but the admin part of that is disabled
[04:26] <paradizelost> matt__: log in as root then open it
[04:26] <matt__> thats how i normally setup cups
[04:27] <matt__> it says Administrative commands are disabled in the web interface for security reasons. Please use the GNOME CUPS manager (System > Administration > Printing). /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian.gz describes the details and how to reenable it again.
[04:28] <paradizelost> matt__: you could go through those steps and re-enable it.
[04:28] <NoUse> Biodieseler you have to set the options at mount, in fstab change uid=xxxx to your user id
[04:29] <Biodieseler> fstab?
[04:29] <matt__> yeah.. just getting frustrated.. this should not be this hard... i just switched from gentoo to get something that i could spend more time programming and less time administrating and fighting.. sigh
[04:29] <Biodieseler> NoUse: fstab where?
[04:31] <NoUse> Biodieseler /etc/fstab
[04:34] <bradley__> i'm back! ;)
[04:34] <bradley__> i have the drivers install correctly and my xorg.conf file is fine... argg how do i get something higher than 800x600?? ;)
[04:34] <nickrud> !fixres
[04:34] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:34] <Biodieseler> NoUse: THX
[04:35] <bradley__> thanks nickrud...
[04:35] <bradley__> unfortunately i've read through the whole thing and still have the same problem
[04:35] <eggzeck> bradley_, add a higher resolution to your xorg.conf
[04:35] <bradley__> everything appears to be setup correctly
[04:36] <bradley__> the only one i have available to it is 1024x768 on depth of 24
[04:36] <nickrud> bradley_, did you add HorizSync & VertRefresh to the monitor section?
[04:36] <bradley__> should i delete theo ther depths
[04:36] <happyneko> How do you change the screen resolution on your monitor??
[04:36] <bradley__> yeah i have the horizsync and vertrefresh sections
[04:36] <bradley__> i installed the updates for xserver
[04:36] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell happyneko about fixres
[04:36] <matt__> paradizelost:  i enabled it and made some changes to the config but still it does not print
[04:36] <matt__> any other idea?
[04:36] <bradley__> which broke xserver ;) i had to get that back up and running and when it did, i lost my higher resolution
[04:37] <nickrud> bradley_, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what resolutions your monitor & card say are good
[04:37] <paradizelost> not really.  make sure that all cables are plugged in and that it's really a spported printer
[04:37] <bradley__> nickrud: thanks! let me check that out
[04:37] <bradley__> brb
[04:37] <paradizelost> matt__: could also try the kde printer program
[04:37] <nickrud> bradley_, make that cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep default
[04:37] <bradley__> ook
[04:37] <bradley__> ok
[04:37] <matt__> i am about to blow away the conf in etc and reinstall the pacakge
[04:37] <matt__> this was working earlier
[04:37] <matt__> its a very supported printer
[04:38] <bradley__> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,???
[04:38] <nickrud> bradley__, erm, I hadn't done it for a mont or two, try  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep Default (cap on the D)
[04:38] <intelikey> Q;  is it not possable to install grub if your / is hda ?
[04:39] <intelikey> is that a grub bug ?
[04:39] <paradizelost> intelikey: your / should be hda1
[04:39] <nickrud> intelikey, you mean hda1
[04:39] <intelikey> nickrud i said what i meant.
[04:39] <arrick1> hahahahaha
[04:40] <arrick1> hda1 intelikey hda is just a device not a partition
[04:40] <bradley__> nickrud: i got a buch of stuff without the last part... one interesting bit is "Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name)... any ideas?
[04:40] <nandemonai> Greetings people, I'm trying to use winecfg but it crashes when I hit the audio tab and term tells me I need libjack which is odd because it is installed.. Any ideas?
[04:40] <intelikey> arrick1 i'll ignore your ignorance.
[04:40] <nandemonai> I'm assuming wine is just not looking in the right place but I don't know how to set that..
[04:40] <Kyral> heheh, intelikey own arrick1
[04:40] <arrick1> thanks intelikey
[04:40] <intelikey> :)
[04:40] <arrick1> Kyral, huh?
[04:41] <Kyral> nm misspelled
[04:41] <happyneko> Anyone?? Screen resolution??  Help!! I'm a n00b!! @_@
[04:41] <intelikey> so is that a grub bug ?    anyone know ?
[04:42] <intelikey> happyneko menu system admin screen rez
[04:42] <ubuntu> Hey, I'm in the Live CD, I was Installing windows when I realized I didn't have my CD Key, blah blah blah, and I realized that the GRUB bootloader was gone. How would I go around putting it back/making a new one?
[04:42] <Madpilot> happyneko, you should have gotten a msg from the bot a few minutes ago
[04:42] <Kyral> !grub
[04:42] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:43] <DarkLegacy> Sup :)
[04:43] <nickrud> bradley__, if you'd put both your xorg.conf & Xorg.0.log on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:44] <intelikey> Kyral  i've read that,  there is no mention of using root on hd?    i'm asking if it is a known issue with grub or not, that grub cant install without a partition table ?
[04:44] <happyneko> madpilot : Didn't get one....>_>
[04:44] <Kyral> uh yah, GRUB no install w/o partition table
[04:44] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell happyneko about fixres
[04:44] <intelikey> Kyral reason ?
[04:45] <Kyral> because it needs to know where the Kernel is
[04:45] <Kyral> and if there is no partition table....
[04:45] <Kyral> think about it
[04:45] <hollowlife1987> um...how would it know where the start of the drive to use and the end without a partion table
[04:45] <DarkLegacy> =\
[04:45] <Madpilot> happyneko, did you get that pm from the bot?
[04:45] <intelikey> it can't read the inode address from the supperblock ?
[04:45] <hollowlife1987> even if you have one partion it puts it in the mbr
[04:46] <Kyral> intelikey: if there is no partition, then where the HELL is the kernel
[04:46] <happyneko> madpilot; Nothing's telling me that I got a pm...
[04:46] <cafuego> Kyral: On the raw device eh?
[04:46] <intelikey> it's in /boot  on /
[04:46] <intelikey> :)
[04:46] <hollowlife1987> thats a partion
[04:46] <DarkLegacy> lmao
[04:46] <Kyral> dunno
[04:46] <Madpilot> happyneko, this is the URL the bot was trying to send you: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:46] <Kyral> go away I got out of Finals
[04:46] <intelikey> hollowlife1987 are you trying to say something ?
[04:46] <Kyral> I'm not supposed to be smart for the next 2 weeks!
[04:46] <CrashProne> Arright!! How do I check what kernel modules I have -running-?
[04:47] <hollowlife1987> yeah look up what a mbr is and what it does
[04:47] <Kyral> CrashProne: lsmod
[04:47] <CrashProne> Thanks
[04:47] <Madpilot> Kyral, you'd done finals and you're still sober? What's wrong with you? ;)
[04:47] <Kyral> Madpilot: underage
[04:47] <Madpilot> Kyral, and? :D
[04:47] <DarkLegacy> Hey, does anybody know casual IRC channels?
[04:47] <ifr> Dumb qUestion: wht's he difference between sleep and suspnd?
[04:48] <ifr> s/suspnd/suspend
[04:48] <intelikey> ok hollowlife1987 and what does the master boot record have to do with installing grub ?
[04:48] <Madpilot> DarkLegacy, #ubuntu-offtopic is Ubuntu's chat channel
[04:48] <bbrazil> ifr: different levels of powered-off-edness
[04:48] <DarkLegacy> Thanks Madpilot
[04:48] <ifr> bbrazil< right, but wht are the differences? for example, can you remove the battery during suspend?
[04:49] <nandemonai> ok, I think I have this sussed with wine, apparently I shouldnt be using jack which is fine, but how do I set ALSA as my default?
[04:49] <nandemonai> I got the info from this post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=846165#post846165
[04:49] <bbrazil> ifr: only if AC is attached I imagine
[04:49] <hollowlife1987> gee i dunno, maybe grub needs to be installed somewhere on the drive and the mbr is what holds the partion tables to tell it where / is located on the drive so it can load from /boot
[04:49] <bbrazil> ifr: there's 7 or so ACPI levels defined iirc
[04:49] <ifr> bbrazil thanks
[04:50] <nandemonai> Anyone able to help me suss this out?
[04:50] <CrashProne> What are some modules I could load to get a Sidewinder game pad running? (and how to load 'em)
[04:50] <agraupe> I changed the hostname of my system in /etc/hostname, but I forgot to add it in /etc/hosts.  Now sudo fails as being unable to resolve the name, so I'm unable to change either file.  advice?
[04:50] <intelikey> hollowlife1987 so does a floppy disk have a partition table ?
[04:51] <bbrazil> agraupe: livecd, or manipulate dns
[04:51] <nickrud> agraupe, you can boot up into recovery mode, and edit /etc/hosts that way
[04:51] <agraupe> nickrud: do I select that at the GRUB screen?
[04:51] <nickrud> agraupe, yes
[04:51] <agraupe> nickrud: thank you.  I will try that
[04:52] <nickrud> erh, shoulda mentioned nano
[04:52] <nickrud> bradley__, you have those files posted yet?
[04:52] <bbrazil> nickrud: he can probably get back in here from the livecd
[04:53] <nickrud> bbrazil, yeah, but recovery is easier & faster
[04:53] <bimberi> nickrud: nah, vi, don't make it easy
[04:53] <hollowlife1987> well intelikey, im not sure but i belive you CAN make a floppy have more than 1 partion is you really wanted to
[04:53] <bimberi> :P
[04:53] <bradley__> nickrud: my file is on past.ubuntu-nl.org/13674
[04:53] <bradley__> i'm not sure how to post the 0.log
[04:53] <CrashProne> Hoorays! ^^ *runs off*
[04:54] <nickrud> bradley__, easiest is to gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log & cut & paste
[04:54] <intelikey> oh well   guys  for the record lilo installs fine and works fine with root on hda  but grub cant install   so i was just trying to understand what this weekness was in grub.
[04:55] <intelikey> perhaps i should have been looking for what the strength of lilo was   on that point
[04:55] <bradley__> nickrud: i just pasted it
[04:55] <bradley__> let me know what you think... i'm pulling my hair out! ;)
[04:56] <nickrud> bradley__, I got another copy of your xorg.conf :)
[04:56] <hollowlife1987> "If no active partition table enty is found, ROM BASIC is entered via INT 18. All other errors cause a system hang, see label HANG."
[04:56] <bradley__> nickrud: what do you mean?
[04:57] <nickrud> bradley__, I see a post from bradley__ , and one from Anonymous: they're the same
[04:57] <overrider> is there a way i can restrict filenames to only letters and numbers on a samba server?
[04:57] <nickrud> bradley__, doh. It's below :)
[04:58] <bradley__> nickrud: oh sorry, do the anonymous one, that one should have my log file tacked on, sorry
[04:58] <bradley__> yeah i did'nt know you had to put the name in if you edited the file... sorry!
[04:59] <hollowlife1987> intelikey, if you were trying to ask why grub cant install itself to the mbr of a drive it can
[05:00] <nickrud> bradley__, I'd try using mga for the video driver not vesa
[05:00] <hollowlife1987> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html
[05:00] <bradley__> ok
[05:00] <bradley__> nickrud: let me try that... stand by. ;)
[05:01] <intelikey> hollowlife1987 i wasnt. asking that.  i was asking why with my root /  on /dev/hda  grub-install /dev/hda  fails.   even if i swap the drives around and make / dev/hdc  and try grub-install /dev/hda  it still fails.     so i was wondering why grub can't use whole disks like lilo can.
[05:02] <donvella> im having trouble with grub also. it always deletes my windows xp and just replaces it with new and old ubuntu kernels
[05:02] <josh0001> Could someone please walk me through on rebuilding my fstab file?.. I have a simple setup, so it shouldn't take too long, thank you.
[05:03] <nickrud> josh0001, if you'd post your /etc/fstab on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ I'll look
[05:04] <josh0001> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13676
[05:04] <hollowlife1987> intelikey, when you install lilo to /dev/hda it installs to the master boot record
[05:04] <mcquaid> hellok, i'm trying to compile a dri module for my video card, and it's failing complaining about needing the latest kernel modules
[05:04] <hollowlife1987> not the whole raw drive
[05:04] <mcquaid> i've installed the kernel headers
[05:04] <donvella> anyone here use xchat?
[05:04] <funkyHat> donvella, i
[05:04] <hollowlife1987> donvella, yes
[05:04] <nickrud> josh0001, & what is it you want to change?
[05:04] <donvella> funkyHat: i dont like the bar being on the left with the server list, can i have it along the bottom?
[05:05] <donvella> or top.
[05:05] <nickrud> josh0001, you have a funky looking fstab in my opinion :)
[05:05] <funkyHat> donvella, sorry, my xchat runs on a remote system that's running debian, I dunno about the current version in portage
[05:06] <josh0001> nickrud,  Well, it all started when i tried to configure it to mount the windows particion on boot, so i didn't have to go and use kwikdisk. Anyway, i added 1 line to it, and i restarted and it didn't load, it just stoped, and told me that my fstab file is wrong
[05:06] <donvella> i just want a simple irc client thats just basic
[05:06] <donvella> like mirc really but i dont want mirc
[05:06] <josh0001> donvella,  xchat is good, its for both windows and linux
[05:07] <nandemonai> the gnome-xchat is great
[05:07] <donvella> josh0001: i like xchat, but all i want is to put my Servers tab in the top menu
[05:07] <nickrud> josh0001, ok. start by commenting out all the lines that start with none
[05:07] <funkyHat> I don't like gnome-xchat at all
[05:07] <funkyHat> It's icky
[05:07] <nandemonai> Works for me
[05:07] <hollowlife1987> intelikey, 'grub-install /dev/hda' SHOULD work, if not somethings wrong
[05:07] <josh0001> nickrud,  Done!
[05:07] <donvella> funkyHat: what do you use?
[05:08] <funkyHat|away> donvella, xchat 2.4.1
[05:08] <donvella> funkyHat|away: how do i put my "Ubuntu Servers" menu into the top bar?
[05:08] <donvella> instead of having a side bar
[05:08] <nickrud> josh0001, also, you have /dev/hda1 defined twice, once as your root, once as a vfat. I'm guessing you want to comment out the vfat def
[05:09] <bi2> hi all
[05:09] <funkyHat|away> donvella, it's at the bottom already for me, I don't know how to change the setting
[05:10] <funkyHat|away> I think it's a setting in a newer version than 2.4.1
[05:10] <nickrud> josh0001, check that, I mean /dev/hda3
[05:10] <intelikey> hollowlife1987 then i'd say something is wrong.
[05:10] <hollowlife1987> intelikey, are you doing 'sudo grub-install /dev/hda'
[05:10] <bi2> how can i run openssh server at boot?
[05:11] <intelikey> tty2 [root#/mnt]  grub-install /dev/hda
[05:11] <intelikey> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[05:11] <josh0001> nickrud,  would it be possible if you could fix it, then paste it to pastebin?.. It's less likely i will make a mistake. If no, then thanks anyway
[05:11] <nickrud> josh0001, sure.
[05:12] <josh0001> nickrud,  all i want, is the windows particion, the linux ones to be static so i dont have to mess around mounting them in kwikdisk
[05:12] <josh0001> nickrud,  thanks a lot.
[05:12] <nickrud> josh0001, if you'd also post the output of sudo fdisk -l
[05:12] <intelikey> i consider that a bug in grub.
[05:12] <hollowlife1987> try 'grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda'
[05:13] <eggzeck> Okay, this may sound weird but: Have any of you ever seen an icon just appear on your display and float towards a $direction and disappear?
[05:13] <nickrud> eggzeck, yes, wierd isn't it. I haven't seen it for a while though
[05:13] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda
[05:13] <intelikey> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[05:13] <intelikey> The file /boot/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[05:13] <eggzeck> nickrud, I'm glad you've seen it though... I was beginning to wonder about myself haha
[05:13] <intelikey> i can see why that cant work....
[05:14] <josh0001> nickrud, Umm, I'm not on linux now because i am unable to boot it, but i can go into shell mode. Sadly, I cannot copy and paste it, so it will take me a little time to show you the output of fdisk -1 (Whatever that does!)
[05:15] <nickrud> josh0001, no problem, it was just a way to check my work. try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13677
[05:15] <nickrud> josh0001, fdisk -l lists all mountable disk partitions and their types
[05:16] <nickrud> josh0001, I gotta step away for a few, I'll be back
[05:16] <josh0001> nickrud,  alright. Well, I'll go boot up the live CD, and tell you what happens, be back later
[05:17] <linuxcn> hello everyone
[05:17] <Belathor> Hi, I have just followed the Howto in the wiki to enable XGL and Compiz and now I have no GUI at all. However, I have command line and have been trying to see if I messed up typing anything in the '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'. I am doing this is in nano because gedit doesn't work. I'm a newbie and am at a loss to figure out how I'm supposed to exit nano back to the command line. I see it says ^X but...
[05:17] <Belathor> ...when I type it and press enter nothing happens. So, how can I get back to the command line? And once there, how can I get GUI back? And how can I get XGL and compiz working? Thanks for your help!
[05:18] <OrTigaS> ctlr C
[05:18] <OrTigaS> errr
[05:19] <linuxcn> ..
[05:19] <eggzeck> Belathor, 'write-out' means exit
[05:19] <slackern> Belathor: to close and save in nano press control+x
[05:19] <eggzeck> Belathor, so ctrl+o
[05:19] <eggzeck> I mean yeah ctrl+x hahahahaha nano sucks anyways
[05:19] <K-rad> how do i find out what device file irda is?
[05:19] <Belathor> lol
[05:20] <slackern> control+o is to write the file without exiting.
[05:20] <eggzeck> slackern, yeah I got mixed up :), I use vim anywho hehe
[05:20] <Belathor> thanks for that!
[05:20] <nickrud> K-rad, device files are under /dev
[05:20] <linuxcn> how to make kernel in ubuntu?
[05:20] <K-rad> yes i know that , i want to access my irda file
[05:21] <K-rad> any idea how?
[05:21] <intelikey> Belathor one of those questions i can answer.   there is by default about 6 login tty's (consoles) waiting to be used, the hot keys  [alt] +[ctrl] +[F#]    where # is 1-6  takes you to them.   X normally lives in tty7   [alt] +[ctrl] +[F7]      linux is fun that way.
[05:21] <nickrud> linuxcn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[05:22] <intelikey> linuxcn install the build-essential package and the linux source  then configure and make your kernel
[05:22] <Belathor> cool
[05:23] <linuxcn> thinks
[05:24] <nickrud> intelikey, :)
[05:24] <penguin-1> ;)
[05:24] <intelikey> :)
[05:25] <intelikey> really i've really tried hard to not think.  but every time i'm almost there i loose my concentration and.....  well you know the rest.
[05:26] <Belathor> so yeah, I just pressed alt + ctrl + F7  and sure enough, all I get is a blinking line
[05:26] <linuxcn> unable to moutn root fs on unknown-block(0,0),why?
[05:26] <hollowlife1987> type 'startx'
[05:27] <Belathor> who? me?
[05:27] <hollowlife1987> yes sorrry
[05:27] <intelikey> Belathor that's not good.   is X supposed to be running?
[05:28] <Belathor> well, startx did the trick
[05:28] <Belathor> I have x again
[05:28] <Belathor> wow
[05:28] <intelikey> i have seen a really messed up X that couldn't handel switiching ttys...     glad that wasn't your case.
[05:28] <Belathor> me too (-=
[05:29] <Belathor> hollowlife1987, thanks!
[05:30] <DanglyBits> is there a acrobat reader build for ubuntu dapper?
[05:30] <Toma-> yep
[05:31] <hollowlife1987> Belathor, your welcome :)
[05:31] <linuxcn> when i make the kernel successfully and reboot system
[05:32] <Toma-> linuxcn: how are you building this kernel?
[05:32] <DanglyBits> is there a acrobat reader build for ubuntu dapper?
[05:32] <intelikey> !acroread
[05:32] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[05:32] <DanglyBits> if so how do i get a hold of it?
[05:32] <Toma-> DanglyBits: yes. and look at the topic, dapper #ubuntu+1
[05:32] <linuxcn> frist download the kernel of you need from www.kernel.org
[05:35] <cnleon> hello everyone
[05:35] <linuxcn> hi
[05:36] <intelikey> hollowlife1987 how old is that document on grub you pointed me to ?
[05:37] <hollowlife1987> hmm...not sure to tell you the truth, let me see if i can find a more recent one
[05:37] <Android_D> what would my "localhost" be in ubuntu? (yes, I am really this ignorant)
[05:38] <bi2> exit
[05:38] <nandemonai> Android_D: localhost
[05:38] <Android_D> :|
[05:38] <Android_D> ok
[05:38] <nandemonai> ;)
[05:39] <nandemonai> Or your ip
[05:39] <nandemonai> or hostname
[05:39] <hollowlife1987> intelikey, the manual i pointed you too was last updated almost a year ago
[05:39] <intelikey> that's alright just that they specify /usr/lib/  and ubuntu uses /lib   (as do most distros)   for the location of the stage# files
[05:39] <nickrud> Android_D, localhost is the physical machine you're sitting at
[05:40] <nandemonai> Oh right yeah..
[05:40] <nickrud> Android_D, for nearly all situations
[05:40] <Android_D> just wanted to make sure
[05:40] <hollowlife1987> !grub
[05:40] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:40] <nandemonai> I assumed you ment what was the linux equiv..
[05:40] <DanglyBits> is there a adobe acrobat professional version for ubunutu linux?
[05:40] <Android_D> I thought so, but didn't know (trying to fix an error I am getting when trying to start ZoneMinder)
[05:40] <hollowlife1987> well, the trigger has a link to the same url
[05:41] <Belathor> How can I tell whether I'm running XGL or not?
[05:41] <intelikey> yep
[05:42] <nickrud> Belathor, good question. #ubuntu-xgl should have someone who knows, or maybe #ubuntu+1
[05:42] <Belathor> ok, thanks nickrud!
[05:43] <TTT_Travis> alright guys I have a demo of Ubuntu Center available now try it out: http://ubuntucenter.info/demo.php
[05:43] <TTT_Travis> that version will be released tomorrow
[05:43] <firebird619> What would cause ubuntu saying that GTK+-2.0 is missing when, according to Synaptic, I have GTK 2.8.6 installed? I get this when trying to install various different programs. For example, I got this message when trying to install xfce in terminal, but I then used the graphical installer for Xfce and GTK+-2.0 was detected and installation went fine.
[05:44] <Drac|Win> Is there a way to get the new xfce panel without compiling?
[05:44] <Drac|Win> In Breezy, I mean.
[05:46] <intelikey> firebird619 mmm  gtk != gtk+   maybe ?
[05:48] <nandemonai> TTT_Travis: Very interesting.. looks good
[05:49] <nickrud> Drac|Win probably not. You could try installing the dapper ones, but that's almost certainly worse than compiling
[05:49] <intelikey> well actually i guess as far as ubuntu nomenclature is concerned it is the same.
[05:49] <Drac|Win> nickrud: Alrighty. Thanks for the advice.
[05:49] <TTT_Travis> ........thanks
[05:50] <nickrud> Drac|Win, you could try building the source from dapper
[05:50] <TTT_Travis> anyway, I hope you guys try out Ubuntu Center tomorrow when I release
[05:50] <Spitty> oh, I tried that awhile back
[05:50] <Spitty> it looked pretty cool
[05:51] <DanglyBits> is there a adobe acrobat professional version for ubunutu linux?
[05:51] <Amaranth> TTT_Travis: this is going to be running on the user's machine?
[05:51] <intelikey> DanglyBits their website might know.
[05:51] <Android_D> Has anybody here had experience in getting ZoneMinder to work for Ubuntu?
[05:51] <nickrud> intelikey, ubuntu uses the release number for package tracking, it doesn't care about +/vs 2.0
[05:52] <Amaranth> TTT_Travis: err, i just got locked out
[05:52] <Drac|Win> nickrud: Hmm... Well, you see, I've got a bigger problem that really should be reported by the right people. The Breezy PPC kernel series works fine with old world G3s, but the Dapper PPC kernel locks them up. This is a great inconvenience for me, as I would like the benefits of the latest XFCE goodies without the hastle of compiling them. Also, Dapper is shiny... yes. Anyway, it won't work on this Mac project of mine because it doe
[05:52] <Drac|Win> sn't work with BootX. This is something to worry about, I think.
[05:52] <intelikey> DanglyBits adobe is not open source
[05:52] <Cryptid> how to get write permission on Fat32 drives?????
[05:53] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[05:53] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:53] <eggzeck> TTT_Travis, looks nice :)
[05:53] <Amaranth> yeah, that factoid has a bad title
[05:53] <Desh> Hi, when I try the compiling of the source kernel for ndiswrapper it says: creating symbolic link `/lib/modules/VERSION/build' to `/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10': No such file or directory
[05:54] <Drac|Win> Why is it so necessary to punctuate with five question marks?
[05:54] <DanglyBits> are there any programs I can use to markup or modify pdf's?
[05:54] <Drac|Win> Does that make it more questiony or something?
[05:54] <nickrud> Drac|Win, after reading the rest: for dapper, a year or two down the line I expect to see competing releases for xfce & the rest. If you get good enough at the source, you could run one :)
[05:54] <intelikey> mmm yeah isn't the source in the wrong dir on ubunut
[05:54] <lupo> holaaa
[05:54] <lupo> h gente ???
[05:54] <Drac|Win> nickrud: Well, I did run Gentoo for a while, so I know source. It's just a pain. :P
[05:55] <lupo> o demonios eds en infgles
[05:55] <DanglyBits> is there a build for enlightenment for dapper ubuntu?
[05:55] <intelikey> Drac|Win i agree,  three is plenty...
[05:55] <nickrud> Drac|Win, why do you think I use this?
[05:55] <Desh> ndiswrapper worked an hour ago, a package I installed killed it. >_<
[05:55] <Drac|Win> nickrud: Hehee.
[05:56] <Drac|Win> Anyway, I'm up far later than I should be as it is. Off to sleep I go. The Mac can wait for another day, for those who are excitedly not caring at all about it actually. Nobody cares about an old world G3. :P
[05:56] <intelikey> zcat[1]  what does it say when it fails to boot ?
[05:56] <hollowlife1987> Drac|Win,  have you tryed asking in #ubuntu+1
[05:56] <zcat[1] > can't remember.. I gave up on it ages back..
[05:56] <Drac|Win> hollowlife1987: No. I might do that. Not tonight, though.
[05:56] <zcat[1] > it's running breezy again now.
[05:56] <Drac|Win> I'm fighting with it to make it look like Mac OS X... :P
[05:57] <TTT_Travis> Amaranth yes it does run on a users machine, and try logging in again I was changing settings and it got messed up
[05:57] <Desh> How can I compile my source kernel?
[05:57] <Desh> >_<
[05:57] <TTT_Travis> eggzeck thank, I do hope you will give her a try tomorrow night
[05:57] <Amaranth> TTT_Travis: You're planning on including an embedded localhost only web server with this thing?
[05:57] <Desh> Ok I need to do this:
[05:58] <intelikey> zcat[1]  you do know that an upgrade to dapper fails to boot in most cases because of the change from initrd to initramfs   and that might have been the issue there.
[05:58] <firebird619> Is there any place else besides Volume Control under Applications==>Sound & Video, alsamixer in terminal, and the volume control in a program (which changes the volume in Volume Control under Applications) to adjust volume settings. Anything to do with my TV Tuner card (ex: gradio, tvtime, and GnomeRadio) is full of static and extremely loud. However this does not occur in XMMS when the volume slider in XMMS is at 50%, but when se
[05:58] <TTT_Travis> Amaranth no
[05:58] <firebird619> higher, it too gets staticy and loud. All this started after installing GnomeRadio
[05:58] <Amaranth> TTT_Travis: Because there is no way apache and php are getting into the desktop seed
[05:58] <firebird619> oops, sorry for the long message.
[05:58] <Desh> ake sure there is a link to the kernel source from the modules directory. /lib/modules/VERSION/build should be a link to the kernel source
[05:58] <Amaranth> !kernel
[05:58] <Desh> *Make
[05:58] <Amaranth> hrm
[05:58] <Amaranth> ubotu: alive?
[05:58] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Amaranth
[05:58] <zcat[1] > intelikey: I put the flight4 cd kernel into bootx and tried to isntall from cd.
[05:58] <TTT_Travis> Amaranth this runs on apache, it only needs access to a few folders, it allows you to access stuff from anywhere
[05:58] <TTT_Travis> not just inside LAN
[05:58] <Amaranth> !kernel
[05:58] <Amaranth> stupid thing
 unfortunately, kernel is disabled in my configuration
[05:59] <eggzeck> Amaranth, more like control for a server :)
[05:59] <zcat[1] > can't remember if it booted at all.. upgrading from breezy failed after I copied the kernel over.
[05:59] <TTT_Travis> works great for me, I like the upload function because I work on files at school and hate using floppies to transfer files
[05:59] <nickrud> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto or KernelCompileHowto
[05:59] <Amaranth> TTT_Travis: I have a USB stick. ;)
[05:59] <Amaranth> nickrud: thank you
[05:59] <zcat[1] > not really worried, it's not like it could ever run compiz or anything
[05:59] <Amaranth> Desh: go to the link nickrud said
[05:59] <nickrud> Amaranth, I'll point the bot
[05:59] <TTT_Travis> Amaranth yeah well the computers port is on the back
[05:59] <TTT_Travis> anyway ...... ;)
[05:59] <intelikey> zcat[1]  i'm not sure if that flight cd would be the same issue or not.....   idk.
[06:00] <intelikey> but yeah i'm with you.  maybe they will fix it.
[06:00] <TTT_Travis> [spam] http://ubuntucenter.info subscribe in your RSS Reader so you don't forget [/spam] 
[06:00] <ep> I'm a novice, my system does a forced disk check (fsck ?) every 30 boots. This time it failed but the I don't know which volume failed nor can i give any details because the screen scrolled to fast. 2 questions (1) Where is this boot fsck message logged at?  (2) How can I recheck the file system and fix if necessary?
[06:00] <zcat[1] > pondering bringing the family PC up to dapper. It's pretty solid now bit I was going to wait for final.
[06:01] <intelikey> ep    maybe dmesg    and     man e2fsck
[06:01] <criminy> My ipod troubles are still here. I've got a pastebin: http://pastebin.com/706803
[06:01] <TTT_Travis> later guys
[06:02] <nickrud> hm, unfortunately, kernel is disabled in my configuration says ubotu
[06:02] <intelikey> ep if dmesg doesn't replay it.  then search /var/log/
[06:02] <ep> ok
[06:02] <zcat[1] > anyone tried an apt-get dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper yet? I've only done fresh installs from CD
[06:03] <intelikey> ep scroll offs   you do know that you can [shift] +[pg-up]   in console don't you ?
[06:03] <zcat[1] > I guess worst case evverything breaks and I have to do a fresh install :)
[06:03] <HIGH-FREQ> zcat[1] : i followed the update info from wiki and i'm now on beta 6.06 beta
[06:03] <ep> no
[06:04] <HIGH-FREQ> took awhile..cuz u have to d/l alot then it'll install
[06:04] <Kr0ntab> HIGH-FREQ, any major setbacks yet?
[06:04] <zcat[1] > HIGH-FREQ: cool. No major issues/
[06:04] <zcat[1] > ?
[06:04] <AnsiC> apt do not find mplayer
[06:04] <AnsiC> someone can help me?
[06:04] <bijan> I am a new user of linux, how can I get a newr version of python on my system
[06:04] <bijan> ?
[06:04] <bimberi> !Mplayer
[06:04] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:05] <bimberi> bijan: ubuntu comes with python2.4 is that not new enough?
[06:05] <HIGH-FREQ> well for one...an update ...which  i dunno which package just did it....but now i don't get a wireless signal ;(
[06:05] <intelikey> ep not real useful unless you get a break in stdout  cause it drops you back down on each new output.   but if something pukes messages then stops.  try paging up.
[06:05] <HIGH-FREQ> i did after update...but then couple days later i updated and bam.no signal ;(
[06:05] <HIGH-FREQ> but other than that..seems to be ok
[06:05] <ep> ok i'll remember that
[06:06] <zcat[1] > haven't checked wifi for a while.. have to see if mine still works. I hardly ever use it anyway, the card is crap..
[06:06] <Desh> WHen I try downloading the source for my kernel it says the package is not found...
[06:06] <Desh> Where can I find the source for the 2.6.12-10-k7 kernel?
[06:06] <bijan> I want to get 2.4.3
[06:06] <crimsun> Desh: linux-source-2.6.12
[06:06] <Desh> Oh...
[06:06] <johnnybezak> hey guys i've got a wierd networking problem that I don't get at all, I can access pages in Konqueror and Links but I can't open them in Epiphany or Firefox. I think something is messing with dns, because when I tried to join irc.freenode.net it said it was trying to connect to 10.1.1.1, it was only when I entered the actual address of the server that it would let me connect. Anyone know what might be doing this?
[06:07] <HIGH-FREQ> johnnybezak: check your /etc/resolv.conf
[06:07] <HIGH-FREQ> make sure u go the proper dns  nameserver's in there
[06:08] <bijan> bimberi: how can I get 2.4.3,
[06:08] <Desh> Once I have the souce, do I need to compile it? Or can I simply link it for ndiswrapper?
[06:08] <johnnybezak> HIGH-FREQ: what would the proper one's be, I'm connecting via a router
[06:08] <bimberi> info python2.4 dapper
[06:08] <lew[ubuntu] > What does ctrl+alt+backspace do exactly? I saw it described as the 'three finger salute', I'm guessing it restarts the GUI or something?
[06:09] <bimberi> !info python2.4 dapper
[06:09] <ubotu> python2.4: (An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.4)), section python, is important. Version: 2.4.3-0ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 2673 kB, Installed size: 9068 kB
[06:09] <johnnybezak> lew[ubuntu] : restarts x
[06:09] <zcat[1] > kills X .. then gdm restarts it.
[06:09] <lew[ubuntu] > Thanks :)
[06:09] <Desh> Once I have the kernel souce, do I need to compile it? Or can I simply link it for ndiswrapper?
[06:09] <HIGH-FREQ> johnnybezak: login to your router and just copy those 2 dn's over to the /etc/resolv.conf   but make sure u put it like this... nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   whatever it is
[06:09] <intelikey> lew[ubuntu]  no, 'three finger salute' would be ctrl+alt+del
[06:09] <bimberi> bijan: you could install dapper - it you're happy running a beta, otherwise you could install it from python.org (in /opt for example)
[06:10] <bimberi> bs/it/if/
[06:10] <zcat[1] > hmm.. wifi pretends to work but it's not seeing my AP
[06:10] <johnnybezak> HIGH-FREQ: what happens if i remove what's in there, will it just let the router do it?
[06:10] <bimberi> s/bs/s/  (D'Oh)
[06:10] <lew[ubuntu] > intelikey I just saw it written that way and wondered what It was actually doing :P
[06:10] <intelikey> lew[ubuntu]  it kills X ctrl+alt+bs
[06:10] <linuxcn> Desh:yes
[06:11] <intelikey> lew[ubuntu]  'three finger salute' it reboots     ctrl+alt+del
[06:12] <HIGH-FREQ> johnnybezak: i duno...i've always put mine in the network settings
[06:12] <HIGH-FREQ> in gnome
[06:12] <Desh> My source is a tar.bz2 file...
[06:12] <nickrud> bs sounds good
[06:12] <intelikey> lew[ubuntu]   the all thumbs salute   is the next best thing to a hard reset.   alt+SysRQ+B
[06:12] <zcat[1] > I think I need a new wifi card anyhow.. this one only has a range of about three meters anyway...
[06:12] <linuxcn> Desh,I know
[06:12] <zcat[1] > useless piece of crap.
[06:13] <linuxcn> linux-version-tar.gz2?
[06:13] <linuxcn> right?
[06:13] <HIGH-FREQ> zcat[1] : same here..lmao
[06:13] <Desh> Yes.
[06:13] <zcat[1] > SMC? rt2400 chipset?
[06:13] <linuxcn> mv it to /usr/src frist
[06:13] <Desh> It's there.
[06:13] <Desh> Actually..
[06:13] <Desh> It's
[06:14] <zcat[1] > it's nice that the chipset drivers are OSS but the card itself is crap.
[06:14] <Desh> linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[06:14] <Zetx> I have a problem... for some reason one of my partitions (ext3) stopped working so I unmounted them. I looked at them and they were marked as type ntfs and I can no longer mount them as ntfs or ext3. Any suggestions to get it to read the ext3 again?
[06:14] <ep> dmesg doesn't seem to replay the boot messages and also I didn't find it when I did "/var/log$ grep 'mounted' *.log"   Should of of done something else?
[06:14] <bimberi> nickrud: :)
[06:14] <zcat[1] > playing with bluefrog under wine today. I wanna annoy spammers too :)
[06:15] <capiCrimm> interesting, so safari has a maximum number of concurrent sessions....
[06:15] <nickrud> bimberi, you caught it, quick :)
[06:15] <zcat[1] > they should write a linux client.
[06:15] <intelikey> Zetx  windows restore eeh
[06:15] <Zetx> eh?
[06:15] <linuxcn> tar jxvf linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[06:15] <linuxcn> try do it
[06:16] <intelikey> the cause of your entertainment Zetx ?
[06:16] <bimberi> nickrud: looked away for a bit then caught up :)
[06:16] <Zetx> Still lost, intelikey
[06:16] <intelikey> never mind.
[06:16] <nickrud> then, I admire your catch up
[06:16] <intelikey> Zetx you can try 'testdisk'
[06:16] <Desh> Lots..of stuff....on Konsole....
[06:16] <Zetx> The partitions were originally ntfs and I bought a new drive and I would transfer the data, format the old partition ext3 and move it back, so they should all be ext3. None of them had system files on it
[06:17] <linuxcn> what?
[06:17] <Desh> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:17] <zcat[1] > sounds like windows restore has 'repaired the damage' of converting them to ext3
[06:17] <billdoe> anyone in here do any work with the livecd?
[06:17] <Zetx> I haven't booted into windows for over a month
[06:17] <zcat[1] > ahhh..
[06:17] <intelikey> zcat[1]  that's the conclusion i jumped to also.
[06:17] <zcat[1] > well that's weird..
[06:17] <Zetx> i don't even have a multiboot
[06:17] <Zetx> it's just ubuntu
[06:18] <intelikey> Zetx you can try 'testdisk'
[06:18] <zcat[1] > OK.. when you formated them ext3 did you also change the partition type in fdisk
[06:18] <intelikey> !info testdisk
[06:18] <ubotu> testdisk: (Partition scanner and disk recovery tool), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 5.8-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 370 kB, Installed size: 1084 kB
[06:18] <Zetx> er change parition tyhpe?
[06:19] <Whyvas> what about defragmenting your hd in ubuntu?
[06:19] <Whyvas> is there a boot cd or something like that?
[06:19] <Zetx> I used mkfs.ext3
[06:19] <intelikey> why about it
[06:19] <zcat[1] > yeah.. fdisk and change the partition type from ntfs to 'Linux"
[06:19] <gwildo1> hello everyone..  is there anyone that can help me with the wpa_supplicant?
[06:19] <Desh> :(
[06:19] <Desh> Can someone help?
[06:19] <billdoe> google can help anyone
[06:19] <Desh> I cannot link this kernel source >_<
[06:20] <Desh> ln -s /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version> /lib/modules/VERSION/build
[06:20] <linuxcn> how do you get this kernel?
[06:20] <Desh> sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[06:20] <cafuego> Whyvas: You don't need to defragment ext3.
[06:21] <linuxcn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[06:21] <Zetx> what process does testdisk actually do?
[06:22] <intelikey> man testdisk
[06:22] <Zetx> i did
[06:22] <cafuego> Desh: if compiling a module, you need 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[06:22] <Zetx> "Scan and repair disk partitions" doesn't help much :P
[06:23] <bijan> bimberi: your answer was so abstract, I just started to use linux yesterday, would you explain more please
[06:23] <zcat[1] > I suspect gpart might be more helpful. It should recognise and correctly label your partitions for you
[06:23] <ep> intelikey: man e2fsck was fairly straight forward, its more or less say not to use it on a mounted volume but doesn't explain how do it externally, i.e. can I use a live CD or the install CD?
[06:23] <UKMatt> is there a way that I can mount my Ubuntu disk in windows just like windows is mounted in Ub?
[06:24] <zcat[1] > ep: it runs itself every 30 boots just to be safe, and if your filesystem is really screwed up it'll start in 'rescue mode' so you can run it.
[06:24] <Zetx> ...crap the partitions i unmounted are no longer being read as partitions anymore (they were on the same physical disk)
[06:24] <Kr0ntab> gwildo1, whats the question about wpa
[06:24] <intelikey> ep yes. the live cd or you can boot with  init=/bin/bash  and run it   then reboot.   either way is fine.
[06:24] <Syco54645> what package are the xgl dev headers in?
[06:25] <Zetx> for the other disks, gparted reads as ext3 and cfdisk says ntfs
[06:25] <zcat[1] > ep: but generally ext3 or reiserfs take care of themselves very well. I have never worried about it..
[06:25] <gwildo1> sorry Kr0n
[06:25] <gwildo1> just searching through some forums
[06:26] <billdoe> has anyone ever setup a debian package repository?
[06:26] <gwildo1> i'm getting the Operation not supported Error when trying to use WPA
[06:26] <ep> zcat[1] : yes, but I got a fail message just now (on the check it does every 30th time).  I've never received this in the past.  The hard disk is fairly new too.
[06:26] <gwildo1> If i set my router to have no encryption.
[06:26] <gwildo1> my wireless card connects no pro
[06:26] <gwildo1> prob
[06:26] <zcat[1] > oh.. bad. bring it up with init=/bin/bash
[06:27] <Kr0ntab> you using wpa-psk?
[06:27] <Kr0ntab> and what card ya using?
[06:28] <nickrud> Zetx, one moter test for you: sudo fdisk -l
[06:28] <Zetx> reports ntfs
[06:28] <Forgott3n> hey, I got a problem
[06:28] <gwildo1> wpa-psk on a Netgear WG511
[06:28] <Biodieseler> hi again. needed to know how to change hardware acceleration on ubuntu laptop (HP Pavilion)
[06:29] <Forgott3n> I have an Acer Aspire, the one with a built in WiFi card/system thing... How do I get the wifi to work on ubuntu?
[06:29] <zcat[1] > nickrud: sounds like he made an ext3 filesystem but the partition type is still ntfs .. can probably just change it in fdisk.
[06:29] <intelikey> lol.   i like playing around in init=/bin/bash    you get way down in the bowles of the system that way.  you are more than root you are "init"   you panic the kernel if you exit.
[06:29] <Zetx> here's my problem http://img.stormcube.net/upload/wtf.jpg
[06:29] <tritium> !wireless
[06:29] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[06:29] <ep> zcat[1] : I'm a novice,  I don't understand "init=bin/bash"  How will this run fsck ?
[06:30] <zcat[1] > ep: ok.. when you reboot and grub comes up (it gives you a list of kernels, or it might say 'press esc for options) press esc, then press 'e'
[06:30] <Kr0ntab> I would sometimes get an operation not permitted error... but does not mean that a connection is not actually made.  What would help is the debugging output
[06:30] <ep> ah
[06:30] <Biodieseler> hi again. needed to know how to change hardware acceleration on ubuntu laptop (HP Pavilion)??
[06:31] <Biodieseler> also, does anyone use 3ddesktop?
[06:31] <Kr0ntab> !paste
[06:31] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[06:31] <nickrud> Zetx, I've never had any disk that identified as sda whatever: nine times out of ten it just works but if it's a sata I have no clue
[06:31] <zcat[1] > then pick the second line that ends 'quiet splash' and press 'e' again..
[06:31] <ep> ok
[06:31] <zcat[1] > and type 'init=/bin/bash'
[06:31] <Zetx> they're both sata and ide
[06:31] <intelikey> ep if yo edit the kernel line at the grub boot prompt [esc]   [E]       and add "init=bin/bash"   then boot   when it gets to where init takes over, it will be you in a bash shell.   just run e2fsck /dev/<blah>
[06:31] <Zetx> in external enclosures (i'm on a lapotp)
[06:31] <zcat[1] > and then press enter, then 'b' to boot it..
[06:31] <gwildo1> kk i'll try that right now Kr0n..  gimme on sec.
[06:32] <Desh> ndiswrapper installed, but it doesn't have a wlan0 section...
[06:32] <nickrud> Zetx, then it's the one of ten :)
[06:32] <Desh> when i use iwconfig wlan0 does not show up.
[06:32] <cafuego> Zetx: You cna just change the partition types.
[06:32] <Zetx> ooh
[06:32] <cafuego> Zetx: This doesn't affect the filesystem type.
[06:32] <ep> ok i understand that, thanks for spelling it out :-)
[06:32] <Desh> I installed the correct driver and it said driver present, hardware present.
[06:32] <Zetx> but when i write it will it rewrite my partition?
[06:32] <intelikey> when you are done with that ep,  just give it the three fingured solute
[06:32] <cafuego> Zetx: It will rewrite the aprtition table, using the correct bit code for the aprtitions.
[06:33] <cafuego> Zetx: You are changing their type, not deleting & recreating them.
[06:33] <Zetx> ok
[06:33] <HIGH-FREQ> darn..i did an update earlier and now wifi-radar isn't gettin a signal at all.....anyone have that problem?
[06:34] <intelikey> cafuego :)
[06:34] <Zetx> well i also lost a hdd and it asks to create a "zero table" ... assuming it still has the data but not the partition table, should i write this zero table?
[06:34] <Biodieseler>  need to know how to change hardware acceleration on ubuntu laptop (HP Pavilion)??
[06:34] <WillyTell> hello everyone.
[06:34] <cafuego> Zetx: no
[06:35] <Zetx> the other partitions are still mounted so i haven't changed the types yet (I'm assuming it won't work while mounted ...)
[06:35] <WillyTell> I wish run windows under linux.... can some one help me?
[06:35] <cafuego> Zetx: There is a tool to scan that harddisk for partition boundaries, to try and restore.
[06:35] <intelikey> Zetx i think id try testdisk
[06:35] <Zetx> ah
[06:35] <cafuego> Zetx: It'll work while mounted, but you'd need to reboot to make the kernel see the new types.
[06:35] <OetmetG> Hey.. Ubuntu sets my laptop in "Userspace" mode even when it's connected to AC Power
[06:35] <mariotemp> hi
[06:36] <mariotemp> hi
[06:36] <OetmetG> does anyone know how to change that?
[06:36] <Desh> How can I add wlan0 to the iwconfig list?
[06:36] <cafuego> OetmetG: this is good, not bad
[06:36] <Zetx> testdisk gave me
[06:36] <Zetx> Disk /dev/sdb - 286165 MB - CHS 36481 255 63, sector size=512
[06:36] <Zetx> Disk /dev/sdb - 286165 MB - CHS 36481 255 63, sector size=512
[06:36] <Zetx> Disk /dev/sdc - 190779 MB - CHS 24321 255 63, sector size=512
[06:36] <Zetx> Disk /dev/sdd - 238472 MB - CHS 30401 255 63, sector size=512
[06:36] <Zetx> Disk /dev/sde - 305242 MB - CHS 38913 255 63, sector size=512
[06:36] <OetmetG> I don't want Ubuntu changes my CPU frecuency when it's connected to AC Power
[06:36] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[06:36] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:36] <tritium> Zetx: sotp pasting please
[06:36] <Madpilot> Zetx, ^^^ for next time!
[06:36] <Zetx> sorry / thanks / etc
[06:36] <HIGH-FREQ> Desh: modprobe the driver module for your card....ligh should come on if so...then configure it up
[06:36] <tritium> stop even ;)
[06:36] <cafuego> OetmetG: it will keep the cpu temperature low, which is a good thing[tm] 
[06:37] <cafuego> OetmetG: The speed will jump abck up the instant the cpu has work to do.
[06:37] <OetmetG> mmm
[06:37] <WillyTell> someone know about MVware?
[06:37] <Zetx> in any case what should i do with this information? :P
[06:37] <intelikey> Zetx duplicate sdb's   eeek
[06:37] <Zetx> yeah :\
[06:37] <OetmetG> I thought that was for Power saving.. which has no sense if it's connected to the ac power
[06:37] <Desh> How would I do that?
[06:37] <Desh> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[06:37] <intelikey> usb   and true scsi  or what ?
[06:38] <cafuego> OetmetG: No, power as well as wear&tear. At lower speeds it runs cooler, which makes it last longer.
[06:38] <MojOrow> hi
[06:38] <MojOrow> all
[06:38] <MojOrow> i am in dire need of help
[06:38] <nybble> sup, people.
[06:39] <Zetx> do i want to change the type to Linux or something different?
[06:39] <Madpilot> MojOrow, just ask your question(s), someone will help if they can
[06:39] <MojOrow> if anybody can trougbleshoot pxe booting or explain how to get a live cd on a hard drive
[06:39] <intelikey> linux
[06:39] <Zetx> I'm using cfdisk >_>
[06:39] <Biodieseler> 3ddesktop is asking me to change my hardware acclerator. need to know how to change hardware acceleration on ubuntu laptop (HP Pavilion)??
[06:39] <MojOrow> It would be greatly appreciated
[06:39] <intelikey> 83
[06:39] <Biodieseler> It would save my life.
[06:39] <WillyTell> Can someone help me about MVware or other virtual machine?
[06:41] <cafuego> WillyTell: what kind of help?
[06:41] <Biodieseler> WillyTell: That sounds like what I need help with, almost... yet, I know so little, and am so lost.
[06:41] <intelikey> yeah you have to have 3ddesktop to live nowa days
[06:41] <HIGH-FREQ> WillyTell: d/l vmware-workstation and go from there
[06:42] <Zetx> hmm so what should I do about my duplicate /dev/sdb entries?
[06:42] <Biodieseler> intelikey: do you know how i change hardware acceleration on my ubuntu laptop?
[06:42] <WillyTell> ok
[06:42] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: workstation isn't free
[06:42] <firebird619> How do I tell if I am using XFree86 or whichever other choices there are. I just downloaded and installed 855Resolution and I don't know what file to edit. I don't think I am using XFree86 thought. What else is there?
[06:42] <HIGH-FREQ> hmm
[06:42] <HIGH-FREQ> oh ya
[06:42] <WillyTell> I have VMPlayer.
[06:42] <HIGH-FREQ> no thats not it
[06:43] <HIGH-FREQ> or how bout  qemu
[06:43] <nickrud> firebird619, X -version | grep release
[06:43] <HIGH-FREQ> i've never used it...but qemu seems to be of choice by some
[06:43] <intelikey> Zetx what is sdb ?   is that usb 280G
[06:43] <intelikey> Biodieseler no.
[06:43] <Madpilot> firebird619, Ubuntu uses Xorg, not X86
[06:44] <Zetx> yes, i believe it's a sata drive in a usb enclosure that is 280gb ("300?")
[06:45] <firebird619> Madpilot, thats what I thought, but couldn't remember, when I first installed Ubuntu a year or so ago I had to edit some file to fix the resolution. What file would I edit now for 855resolution.
[06:45] <WillyTell> Biodieseler, Yes, I know so little, but if you can help a little... I will can do it :)
[06:45] <bimberi> firebird619: breezy has a 815resolution package available
[06:45] <bimberi> *855resolution
[06:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell firebird619 about fixres
[06:45] <bimberi> !info 855resolution
[06:45] <ubotu> 855resolution: (resolution modify tool for Intel graphic chipset), section universe/x11, is extra. Version: 0.4-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 108 kB
[06:45] <intelikey> Zetx i'm not sure, on usb.   i have nothing to test with.
[06:46] <firebird619> Thanks
[06:46] <Zetx> but if it weren't usb, what would you suggest?
[06:46] <mikebot> how can i get the java runtime environment for firefox in ubuntu?
[06:46] <intelikey> Zetx a reboot (even though this is linux) might clear that up.  but i make no promices
[06:47] <Zetx> Yeah that was my last move as well :|
[06:47] <Nyvhek> Hi, How do I get evdev installed on my box? Im trying to follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471 , but when I go to restart I get an error saying Unknown protocol "evdev" and X won't start
[06:47] <intelikey> if it weren't usb.  id say umount rpoc and rerun that app.
[06:47] <jmoncayo> has somebody used putty for ssh?
[06:48] <mikebot> anyone know?
[06:48] <Zetx> rpoc? proc? and what would proc have to do with it? >_>
[06:48] <intelikey> puoc
[06:48] <jmoncayo> has somebody used putty for ssh?
[06:48] <blaq> i have 2 scsi drives that I'm trying to RAID and boot off, and I'm desperately trying to figure out why it wont boot.
[06:48] <gwildo1> i've used putty in windoze.
[06:48] <WillyTell> I have VMplayer, but it ask me for a file. I guess that I need other VM, like VMworkstation, that's right?
[06:48] <Interpol> Why would wlan0 not show up on my iwconfig list?
[06:49] <blaq> On boot, it drops back to the busybox shell saying it cannot find /dev/md1 (the raid partition i have / on)
[06:49] <Interpol> Oh man, one crappy shutdown and NOTHING works.
[06:49] <Zetx> hmm well I'll give rebooting a shot, bbl
[06:49] <MojOrow> ?
[06:49] <Interpol> :(
[06:49] <MojOrow> does anyone know how to get a live cd on a hard drive
[06:49] <blaq> I'm looking in /dev and i can't actually see my scsi devices. Does anyone know if scsi support is built into the kernel?
[06:49] <MojOrow> ?
[06:49] <nickrud> !tell mikebot about java
[06:49] <nybble> MojOrow, are you mad?
[06:50] <Interpol> How can I make wlan0 work?
[06:50] <UKMatt> is there a way that I can mount my Ubuntu disk in windows just like windows is mounted in Ub?
[06:50] <intelikey> info in proc is what loaded there, for there to be duplicates of the same device.   but you umount proc and you may loose the usb device altogather.   'i think you'd have to kill some hotplug / hal  stuff to umount it'
[06:50] <esac> does anybody know if i can install a later version of winbind than whats available w/ apt-get install ?
[06:50] <nybble> chasbot, man
[06:50] <mikebot> nickrud, thanks
[06:50] <nickrud> MojOrow, you can do that with the dapper live, but not breezy
[06:51] <mikebot> how do i know if i am using ubuntu ppc or ubuntuamd64?
[06:51] <nybble> mikebot
[06:51] <esac> hah
[06:51] <esac> uname -a
[06:51] <nybble> noirequus, what is up man
[06:51] <mikebot> yes
[06:51] <nickrud> is it a bot? (I was wondering)
[06:51] <MojOrow> what do you mean
[06:51] <MojOrow> ?
[06:52] <mikebot> no
[06:52] <gwildo1> !wireless
[06:52] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[06:52] <nickrud> MojOrow, I read your question as, 'can I install from the live cd?'
[06:52] <nybble> Ok, what MojOrow is looking for (i think), is the ability to run an ISO image from a hard drive, i think.
[06:52] <mikebot> how do i know if i am using ubuntu ppc or ubuntuamd64?
[06:52] <intelikey> mikebot how can i tell if this is a laptop or desktop ?
[06:52] <MojOrow> well i want to have it boot from the hard drive as if it is booting from the cd
[06:52] <mikebot> intelikey, i'm sorry?
[06:52] <sparkleytone> mikebot: seriously?  ... uname -a
[06:53] <sparkleytone> also...you should kinda ... know if your box is ppc
[06:53] <nickrud> mikebot, by what kind of machine you're running, is it a mac or not? (first decision point)
[06:53] <mikebot> what does ppc mean?
[06:53] <sparkleytone> powerpc
[06:53] <mikebot> not a mac
[06:53] <mikebot> ahh
[06:53] <mikebot> haha ok
[06:53] <blaq> does your machine have a picture of an apple with a bite taken out?
[06:53] <intelikey> mikebot :)
[06:53] <mikebot> haha
[06:53] <blaq> if so, there's a good chance (but not 100%) that you're using PPC
[06:53] <blaq> :)
[06:53] <mikebot> ok, so i have to do the ibm java thing to get java to work in firefox?
[06:54] <nickrud> (<Tab> means press the Tab Key) In the directory where you downloaded the sun jre, type sudo aptitude install java-package && fakeroot make-jpkg jre<Tab> . When that's done, type sudo dpkg -i sun<Tab>
[06:54] <nickrud> mikebot, for an i386 install, anyway
[06:54] <mikebot> what about 1686?
[06:54] <WillyTell> Biodiesele, well... can you help me?
[06:55] <mikebot> *i686
[06:55] <nickrud> mikebot, same
[06:55] <intelikey> lol
[06:55] <blaq> does anyone know if scsi support is compiled into the default kernel?
[06:55] <mikebot> nickrud, ok, thanks...and as for the sun jre
[06:55] <intelikey> blaq it is not.
[06:55] <Zetx> They all work now =)
[06:55] <blaq> intelikey: :(
[06:55] <intelikey> blaq almost nothing is.
[06:56] <Zetx> though my /dev/sdb1 and sdb2 partitions read as ext2 instead of ext3 now
[06:56] <lshellman> I have a Kingston 512MB USB flash drive. When I plug it in, I get the message "FAT: invalid media value (0xb9)" from dmesg. Can someone help me on this?
[06:56] <nickrud> mikebot, that is for installing the sun jre. To activate, sudo update-alternatives --config java, and choose sun
[06:56] <intelikey> the only fs support is cram in the default kernel
[06:57] <intelikey> blaq that is why the initramfs is so huge   all the support is in there.
[06:57] <nickrud> mikebot, for more details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:57] <mikebot> which is sun:       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[06:57] <mikebot>       2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[06:57] <mikebot> *+    3        /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java
[06:57] <mikebot> ok
[06:57] <MojOrow> basically i have hard drives but only one cd rom and i have ten computers that need to be SSI booted see http://www.purehacking.com/chaos/
[06:57] <blaq> well the kernel isn't finding my scsi devices, do you know if the initramfs has the scsi module?
[06:57] <nickrud> mikebot, you have the blackdown version of java (3) and the free java (1 & 2) installed. Sun will show up there after you install it
[06:58] <intelikey> blaq yes it should have.
[06:58] <blaq> back to the drawing board for me then
[06:58] <blaq> :(
[06:58] <jmoncayo> hey if i want to mount a partition and make it enable to anyuser to wirte to it with defaults,noauto?
[06:58] <mikebot> oh, where do i download it from?
[06:59] <intelikey> blaq you know the module for your card ?    you will need  scsi and <card type>     for me it is   scsi  aic7xxx
[06:59] <blaq> i dont know the module
[06:59] <blaq> its a mylex controller
[06:59] <blaq> dac960
[07:00] <nickrud> mikebot, http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[07:00] <blaq> do you mean pass 'scsi dac960' as kernel options?
[07:00] <blaq> ie. in grub
[07:01] <mikebot> nickrud, ah, and which of these do i download?
[07:01] <blaq> sorry im not too clued up on kernels/modules
[07:01] <UKMatt> can someone tell me what a Loki install is?
[07:01] <intelikey> blaq you can pass them as options  yes.     i don't see a dac* listed tho
[07:02] <cafuego> WillyTell: Go to the vmware website and download: 1) VMWare Server for Linux and 2) VMware client for Linux. You'll need to register and you'll be sent a serial number.
[07:02] <nickrud> mikebot, as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats says, Download JRE 5.0 Update 6
[07:02] <mikebot> ah, sorry, thanks
[07:03] <WillyTell> oh, ok! thanks a lot!
[07:03] <cafuego> WillyTell: That will allow you to create full virtual machines.
[07:03] <nickrud> cafuego, and just how recently did you check that link :)
[07:03] <WillyTell> yes, but it is open source and free?
[07:03] <spikeb> no
[07:03] <cafuego> WillyTell: You need to install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:04] <spikeb> vmware isn't Free Software
[07:04] <blaq> WillyTell: for an open source alternative, have a look at qemu
[07:04] <cafuego> WillyTell: It's gratis, but not open
[07:04] <cafuego> On the other hand, it's extremely mature.
[07:04] <josh0001> nickrud, you there?
[07:04] <intelikey> it's like a free secret
[07:04] <WillyTell> ok, thanks again. that information is all that I need.
[07:05] <nickrud> josh0001, yup. How'd your fstab change go?
[07:05] <spikeb> qemu is sloooooow
[07:05] <cafuego> which reminds me
[07:05] <cafuego> time up upgrade the vmware openbsd :-)
[07:05] <WillyTell> biodieseler, intead of say hey... you don't know so much.... learn to help to each other and improve the community. bye.
[07:05] <blaq> qemu is good with the kqemu module
[07:06] <josh0001> nickrud,  bad, it didn't work.. still exactly the same. Here, http://www.mepis.org/node/9829
[07:06] <WillyTell> thanks a lot cafuego!
[07:06] <levander> Anybody knows a good VPS provider that offers Ubuntu as the OS?  Cheaper than linode, they seem expensive.
[07:06] <blaq> i've actually found qemu (with kqemu) substantially faster than vmware with an ubuntu image
[07:06] <cycom> ...whoa
[07:07] <spikeb> never used it with kqemu
[07:07] <nickrud> josh0001, is this an ubuntu install you're booting?
[07:07] <blaq> yeah it's like bochs without it
[07:07] <blaq> ie. emulation as opposed to virtualisation
[07:07] <josh0001> nickrud,  Nah, mepis (stable).
[07:08] <blaq> kqemu is only available for x86 (and x86_64)
[07:08] <MojOrow> does anybody know how to get http://www.purehacking.com/chaos/ onto a hard drive
[07:08] <nickrud> josh0001, I have absolutely no clue about how mepis runs. No wonder your fstab looked so strange.
[07:08] <josh0001> nickrud,  it's just the same as ubuntu...
[07:08] <intelikey> MojOrow wget
[07:09] <nickrud> josh0001, ubuntu does not reference pts or usb in the fstab. So, not the same
[07:09] <intelikey> i always think they left one s off of that
[07:10] <josh0001> i mean't the system, how it's based (debian)
[07:10] <jmoncayo> does somebody used putty???
[07:10] <josh0001> but anyway, looks like another problem, not to do with fstab
[07:11] <nickrud> josh0001, I've warped debian in my time, and I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable as the guys that make mepis. I'm sure they had their reasons
[07:11] <josh0001> nickrud,  ok
[07:12] <josh0001> Does anyone know any good tutorials/apps that I can use to customise KDE/Gnome interface? Cheers
[07:12] <UKMatt> can someone tell me what a Loki install is?
[07:13] <nickrud> UKMatt, loki was a company that released linux based games. They don't exist anymore
[07:13] <hastesaver> !loki
[07:13] <ubotu> hastesaver: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:13] <hastesaver> nickrud, oh, they're gone?
[07:13] <UKMatt> nickrud, is that a way to install in ubuntu?
[07:14] <nickrud> UKMatt, I used it in debian several years ago, I have no idea if it'll work on ubuntu
[07:14] <UKMatt> well i'm on "Ubuntu Document Storage Facility" site and it has a link to a loki installer
[07:15] <MojOrow> intelikey: wget would work?
[07:15] <capiCrimm> whois harisund
[07:15] <MojOrow> i dont gett how it woudl work
[07:15] <eggzeck> UKMatt, apt-cache search loki
[07:15] <nickrud> hastesaver, according to their website, they closed january 2002
[07:15] <MojOrow> CHAOS is a distro
[07:15] <UKMatt> eggzeck, what is that?
[07:16] <eggzeck> UKMatt, that searches for loki, and there is a package for it ;)
[07:16] <UKMatt> eggzeck, oh and that allows me to install the loki installer?
[07:16] <eggzeck> UKMatt, you might need the right repos in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:16] <BlueEagle> !info loki
[07:16] <ubotu> loki: ([Biology]  MCMC linkage analysis on general pedigrees), section universe/science, is optional. Version: 2.4.7.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 332 kB, Installed size: 824 kB
[07:16] <BlueEagle> not what you're looking for. :p
[07:17] <spikeb> jhaha
[07:17] <eggzeck> What is he looking for? I just saw "loki" :p
[07:17] <BlueEagle> eggzeck: games
[07:17] <eggzeck> BlueEagle, ohhhh, nvm then UKMatt
[07:17] <intelikey> MojOrow hehhe all you specified was a url   i don't go look at them.   if you want what ever the url is on your hdd wget would do that.....   but that's not what you want. :)
[07:17] <UKMatt> here's what i'm at
[07:17] <UKMatt> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Glest
[07:18] <nickrud> loki released some nice stuff in their time
[07:18] <muraii> Okay.  I've installed w32codecs, I've installed gxine, have totem, and have run gst-register-0.8.
[07:18] <eggzeck> UKMatt, if there's a *.deb for it then you would use this command: sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[07:18] <muraii> I can't get gxine nor totem to play a .wmv file.
[07:19] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell muraii about restricted
[07:19] <muraii> I don't think I need all the other codecs on the ubuntu guide.
[07:19] <BlueEagle> muraii: ubotu should have given you the relevant link.
[07:19] <muraii> BlueEagle: Thank you, but I'm on that site right now.
[07:19] <BlueEagle> muraii: ...and?
[07:20] <nickrud> UKMatt, you might want to give it a whirl, but you may need to install some older support libraries. You won't know for sure until you try running it.
[07:20] <muraii> BlueEagle: ...and I'm here.
[07:21] <BlueEagle> muraii: did you read it?
[07:21] <muraii> I thought maybe totem couldn't see the codecs.  I tried to determine where it's looking, but can't seem to track it down.
[07:21] <MojOrow> intelikey: i just need to know how i can get an iso to boot of an hd as if it was a cd rom drive
[07:21] <muraii> BlueEagle: Curiously, yes.
[07:22] <BlueEagle> ukmatt: http://apt.linex.org/dists/cl/juegalinex/binary-i386/glest-data_1.0.10_all.deb and http://apt.linex.org/dists/cl/juegalinex/binary-i386/glest_1.0.10-7_i386.deb and install with alien
[07:22] <BlueEagle> !info alien
[07:22] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[07:22] <jmoncayo> when i recive mail it arrives to port 25 or 110
[07:22] <nickrud> BlueEagle, cool. I had a lot of fun with loki
[07:22] <UKMatt> blueeagle, yeah thanks, I just saw that .deb and it's dl'ing
[07:23] <BlueEagle> ukmatt: "that .deb" or "those .debs"?
[07:23] <BlueEagle> :p
[07:23] <UKMatt> blueeagle, the first .deb, the all.deb, that should be all that I need right?
[07:24] <BlueEagle> ukmatt: Well I would think you wanted the glest and glest-data debs
[07:24] <eggzeck> UKMatt, http://apt.linex.org/dists/cl/juegalinex/binary-i386/glest_1.0.10-7_i386.deb <-- this one
[07:25] <Flannel> BlueEagle: erm, why would you use alien?
[07:25] <UKMatt> eggzeck, oh really?  why not the other one?
[07:25] <eggzeck> UKMatt, and this one http://apt.linex.org/dists/cl/juegalinex/binary-i386/glest-data_1.0.10_all.deb
[07:25] <BlueEagle> flannel: Wouldn't you need that since they are debian and not ubuntu packages? or is alien just for .rpms?
[07:26] <UKMatt> and why is the one 627kb and the other 43 mb
[07:26] <nickrud> UKMatt, you need both, probably one is the program, and the other is the data. Very common break down  in debs
[07:26] <_root> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[07:26] <BlueEagle> muraii: Did you wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:26] <_root> Ok question, I installed ndiswrapper, and when I try this: "modprobe ndiswrapper" I ge that error message
[07:26] <BlueEagle> ?
[07:26] <eggzeck> UKMatt, the data one contains all images/sounds/other things, etc.
[07:26] <UKMatt> nickrud, so I have the lighter one done dl'ing, and larger is half, how do I install them both?
[07:26] <BlueEagle> _root: Did you build your own kernel?
[07:26] <_root> I am using the k7 kernel
[07:26] <Flannel> BlueEagle: aliens just for other packages, yeah.  apt can install all deb files, it's just not pleasant mixing ubuntu with debian binary packages sometimes. depending on the package.
[07:27] <eggzeck> UKMatt, comeon man, I just showed you how to install a .deb
[07:27] <UKMatt> eggzeck, ?
[07:27] <nickrud> UKMatt, after you have them both, do sudo dpkg -i glest* in the directory you downloaded them to
[07:27] <_root> When I linked the kernel I downloaded the 2.6.12 source and linked it to the 2.6.12-10-k7 folder...
[07:27] <muraii> BlueEagle: Yes.  I started there, ended up using the 5.04 Hoary guide, replaced them, then rereplaced them.
[07:27] <UKMatt> eggzeck, oh I thought that was for finding them
[07:27] <_root> ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.12 /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/build  <--I did this
[07:27] <DUMAiSO> I dist-upgraded dapper flight7 and lost my connection to the internet... any hint?
[07:27] <eggzeck> UKMatt, no this: <eggzeck> UKMatt, if there's a *.deb for it then you would use this command: sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[07:28] <nickrud> UKMatt, if the install fails, dpkg will give you some clues about what you need to install. Ubuntu should be close enough for those to work
[07:28] <BlueEagle> dumaiso: wireless or wired?
[07:28] <DUMAiSO> BlueEagle, wired
[07:28] <BlueEagle> dumaiso: which network interface?
[07:29] <BlueEagle> dumaiso: (That is brand make and model of your network card)
[07:29] <_root> BlueEagle, I used this to link my source kernel (I downloade the 2.6.12 source): ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.12 /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/build
[07:29] <mustard5> apt-get -f install seems to work well for fixing dependencies on .deb files
[07:29] <DUMAiSO> BlueEagle, I tryied both nvidia onboard and realtek offboard
[07:29] <BlueEagle> _root: why?
[07:29] <DUMAiSO> BlueEagle, I can see my ip via dhcp but can't ping internet servers
[07:30] <_root> Blue Eagle: If not, I could not install ndiswrapper, the guide said I had to link the source...
[07:30] <vmadmin> hey
[07:30] <mustard5> greetings vmadmin
[07:30] <BlueEagle> dumaiso: what does ifconfig have to say about it? Is eth0 or eth1 listed?
[07:30] <vmadmin> how to copy and paste from xterm in fluxbox?
[07:30] <DUMAiSO> BlueEagle, yes, everything seems ok, i can see my ip in ipconfig
[07:30] <vmadmin> mustard5; hi there
[07:30] <_root> How can I unlink the source (ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.12 /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/build  )
[07:31] <DUMAiSO> BlueEagle, I try to set it using network-admin
[07:31] <eggzeck> _root, rm the symbolic link
[07:31] <BlueEagle> dumaiso: what does /etc/resolv.conf say?
[07:31] <_root> What does that mean...?
[07:31] <muraii> BlueEagle: Running XMMS shouldn't fudge gxine nor totem, right?
[07:31] <mikebot> nickrud, how come when i installed that java package, it is like removing a bunch of stuff
[07:32] <DUMAiSO> BlueEagle, haven't tested, I'll ned to get back to ubuntu to see
[07:32] <BlueEagle> muraii: That depends on the sound daemon used (if any)
[07:32] <crimsun> muraii: in what sense? It won't mess up those packages, no, but sound may not play well.
[07:32] <vmadmin> nickrud: o please say your felling better
[07:32] <muraii> I guess I'll install all those other codecs, though it seems odd that I'd need to.
[07:32] <nickrud> mikebot, it shouldn't remove if you're using the wiki; cut and paste the output from the dpkg -i of your java package
[07:32] <_root> How would I remove this exact link: ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.12 /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/build
[07:32] <muraii> crimsun: At this point, I'd just like to get the .wmv to play.  Then I could shut down XMMS since I wouldn't be listening to music and watching this speech.
[07:32] <BlueEagle> dumaiso: Well /etc/resolv.conf should contain a line saying something like nameserver 10.0.0.1
[07:32] <nickrud> _root, /rm
[07:33] <mikebot> nickrud, i don't know how to do that...it was removing like latex-font and stuff
[07:33] <eggzeck> _root, I told you, rm the symbolic lynk
[07:33] <_root> then what?
[07:33] <_root> I on't know the syntax, sorry.
[07:33] <mikebot> nickrud, i can't scroll up high enough to see it anymore
[07:33] <Biodieseler> WillyTell: Help the community?! I give myself to my community... you don't know me, so don't judge please.
[07:33] <BlueEagle> dumaiso: also, if you've got a router, check that you can ping it.
[07:33] <crimsun> muraii: try mplayer.
[07:33] <vmadmin> how to copy and paste from xterm in fluxbox?
[07:33] <nickrud> mikebot, try it again, you'll see the same stuff :)
[07:33] <DUMAiSO> BlueEagle, I am connected directly via cable modem
[07:34] <mikebot> heh ok
[07:34] <_root> eggzeck, what is the syntax? /rm ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.12 /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/build  ?
[07:34] <nickrud> _root, sudo rm /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/build
[07:34] <Syco54645> what package are the xgl dev headers in?
[07:34] <mustard5> vmadmin, I would assume you would select the text and middle mouse to paste, but I'm guessing
[07:34] <_root> Ah ok, thanks.
[07:34] <mikebot> nickrud, it's like still installing though
[07:34] <liuwei> who
[07:34] <liuwei> how to install qq ?
[07:34] <liuwei> thanks
[07:34] <DUMAiSO> BlueEagle, I'll go there and try something else
[07:35] <BlueEagle> dumaiso: then nameserver would (should) read a regular ip adress. Check the homepage of your ISP for the IP to the dns so you've got something to compare it with and you might alter /etc/resolv.conf manually to get the network (temporarily) working.
[07:35] <Biodieseler> willytell: i am in need of assistance. search engines aren;t telling me anything, and i am new to "this game" (and what a far better game this is!)... so all me to apologize now, to you.
[07:35] <vmadmin> mustard5 ok i am on a labtop no mouse but have three parts to the touch pad section
[07:35] <mikebot> nickrud, and now when i do "sudo update-alternatives --config java", i get no additional item in that list
[07:35] <_root>   /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7  <-- WHat is this?
[07:35] <nickrud> mikebot, where are you in the install?
[07:35] <liuwei> hello
[07:35] <mikebot> um
[07:36] <mustard5> vmadmin, well I'm just guessing its the same, but I would assume the middle button would paste, as that's how it seems to work on other window managers
[07:36] <BlueEagle> _root: That would be the modules for the 2.6.12-10-k7 kernel
[07:36] <liuwei> /home/liuwei/Desktop//hadjaha-00d0d46b4c.desktop
[07:36] <_root> BlueEagle, Deleting this would be a "no no"
[07:36] <_root> ?
[07:36] <mikebot> nickrud, bah, one sec, brb
[07:36] <BlueEagle> _root: only if you want your system to boot.
[07:36] <vmadmin> mustard5 ok thanks and copy?
[07:36] <Biodieseler> please can anyone let me know how to change the hardware accelerator on ubuntu?
[07:36] <Desh> Ah, ok.
[07:37] <mustard5> vmadmin, copy is normally automatic at selection
[07:37] <BlueEagle> desh: As a basic rule: If you need to sudo to delete something you are probably going to break your system by deleting the files.
[07:37] <mustard5> vmadmin, select the text and it will be in the clipboard automagically
[07:37] <Desh> So what source do I use to link my kernel for ndiswrapper to work?
[07:37] <BlueEagle> !wireless
[07:37] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[07:37] <nickrud> Biodieseler, depends on the video card (assuming that's what you mean)
[07:37] <Desh> I am using this kernel: 2.6.12-10-k7
[07:37] <vmadmin> mustard5: ok thanks i will try it see what happens
[07:37] <Desh> I tried this.
[07:37] <Desh> It did not work.
[07:38] <Desh> The thing is I have nothing in the usr/src folder
[07:38] <mkyb14> how do I install the latest version of firefox?  i know that it has been out for a while but the apt and synaptic won't download 1.2//?
[07:38] <Desh> I need something to link.
[07:38] <mustard5> vmadmin, probably best not to close the app (in this case the terminal) before the paste is completed..closing the terminal may clear the clipboard
[07:38] <nickrud> !ff1.5
[07:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:38] <crimsun> Desh: why not use the included ndiswrapper?
[07:39] <mkyb14> yea
[07:39] <MojOrow> does anyone know how to get xgl to run on dapper
[07:39] <nickrud> !xgl
[07:39] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:39] <Biodieseler> nickrud: it is for a program called 3ddesktop i am trying to run off my terminal. tells me to adjust my hardware accelerator.
[07:40] <mikebot> nickrud, i followed all the directions, and finished
[07:40] <mikebot> bah
[07:40] <vmadmin> mustard5; thanks that works left app open i find with the web browser you musy leave it open AND the clipboard expires after three minutes in the old days with windows it could laast for hours
[07:40] <nybble> domo arigato, mr ubotu
[07:40] <MojOrow> domo arigato mr ubotu
[07:40] <nybble> domo
[07:40] <mustard5> vmadmin, probably a good thing that it expires :)
[07:40] <nybble> domo
[07:40] <nickrud> Biodieseler, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:40] <vmadmin> mustard5; umm yes i agree
[07:40] <nybble> jinx
[07:40] <MojOrow> jinx
[07:40] <Desh> I'm so confused...
[07:41] <MojOrow> sparkle
[07:41] <nybble> let me be first this time
[07:41] <nickrud> mikebot, you have a file called sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[07:41] <nickrud>  created?
[07:41] <vmadmin> mustard5; you live and learn never knew about middle button
[07:41] <MojOrow> wow that was close
[07:41] <nybble> Desh, just eat this red pill
[07:42] <vmadmin> nybble: o no not the RED pill
[07:42] <DUMAiSO> BlueEagle, after a lot of changes in network-admin, it worked :)
[07:42] <nybble> YES!
[07:42] <nybble> the red pill, vmadmin
[07:42] <BlueEagle> desh: Did you attempt to compile the latest version of ndiswrapper or install the ndiswrapper binary?
[07:42] <BlueEagle> dumaiso: good.
[07:42] <PrimoTurbo> Is the atd need in Ubuntu? I'm trying to reduce my boot up stuff
[07:42] <Biodieseler> nickrud: thank you. i'll definitely be hanging around...!
[07:42] <Desh> BlueEAgle: I think so, I downloaded it, used make install..
[07:42] <PrimoTurbo> needed*
[07:42] <vmadmin> nybble: like the black spot in treasure island
[07:42] <nybble> lol, i acutally saw novell demo the xgl stuff at linuxworld
[07:43] <mustard5> vmadmin, seems to be a linux thing
[07:43] <nickrud> Biodieseler, it's late here, I'm about run out ;)
[07:43] <Desh> The first step though, the one that has to do with the kernel, I don;t understand it.
[07:43] <BlueEagle> desh: ...and you have got all the build essentials installed so it did compile?
[07:43] <PrimoTurbo> The guide I'm reading says atd - like cron, a job scheduler. I turned it off.
[07:43] <BlueEagle> desh: Well, what _exactly_ did you not understand?
[07:43] <BlueEagle> desh: please quote from the how-to.
[07:43] <PrimoTurbo> any idea if it's safe to leave it on or off?
[07:43] <vmadmin> mustrad5: have we chatted before?
[07:43] <nickrud> but, the down underers are totally awake
[07:43] <Luke> DVD playback doesnt work on totem-gstreamer even though I have libdvdcss... any suggestions?
[07:44] <Desh> ln -s /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version> /lib/modules/VERSION/build
[07:44] <spikeb> Luke: are you using dapper?
[07:44] <mustard5> vmadmin, I don't know  :)
[07:44] <BlueEagle> primoturbo: It's safe (but not neccessarily recomended) to turn it off. The only thing it does is run some commands at set intervals (like rotating log files and such).
[07:44] <vmadmin> nickrud: and  i have just got out of bed?
[07:44] <Luke> spikeb: yea
[07:44] <Desh> WHat do I use as <kernel-version> an KERNEL
[07:44] <spikeb> Luke: that's why
[07:44] <BlueEagle> luke: Did you read the topic?
[07:44] <Luke> spikeb: doesnt work in dapper?
[07:44] <spikeb> Luke: dvd playback isn't ported to gstreamer 0.10
[07:44] <nickrud> vmadmin, I have no reason to doubt it
[07:44] <spikeb> Luke: which dapper uses
[07:44] <Luke> spikeb: thanks mate
[07:45] <BlueEagle> luke: "Dapper information and help in #ubuntu+1"
[07:45] <spikeb> Luke: hang on a minute, i have a link for you
[07:45] <BlueEagle> (from the topic of this channel)
[07:45] <Luke> spikeb: its no problem - thats all the info i needed
[07:45] <spikeb> oh ok
[07:45] <spikeb> Luke: :)
[07:45] <Luke> thanks =D
[07:45] <vmadmin> nickrud: goodness out of bed a stight on the labtop well its to much this addiction
[07:45] <spikeb> no problem
[07:45] <nickrud> vmadmin, ok, you just did :)
[07:45] <muraii> Okay, so, would any of gxine or totem or mplayer explicitly tell me that it can't play the .wmv due to DRM; or would they each just crap out indiscriminately?  I think they can't load the codecs.  I've installed 'em all.
[07:45] <muraii> ...essentially.
[07:46] <BlueEagle> desh: which url are you at?
[07:46] <mustard5> vmadmin, heh..sounds like me...straight out of bed and first thing I do is boot up the computer
[07:46] <zcat[1] > bed? I sleep at the computer.. :)
[07:46] <mustard5> zcat[1] , :)
[07:46] <muraii> zcat[1] : "at" or "on"?
[07:46] <muraii> Prepositions are important.
[07:46] <zcat[1] > under some nights..
[07:47] <muraii> That's right.
[07:47] <vmadmin> mustard5:well not the first thing  clean my teeth
[07:47] <spikeb> muraii: crap out
[07:47] <Desh> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[07:47] <PrimoTurbo> BlueEagle: Thank you very much, I have my last one I'm stumbled on. acpi-support it says that it's needed for laptops but I'm on a P4 Desktop any ideas if I can leave it off?
[07:47] <BlueEagle> desh: why are you not at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper ?
[07:47] <vmadmin> zcat(1) now thats ok but have the fan going it clears the air
[07:48] <Desh> BlueEagle: Because I am dumb...
[07:48] <BlueEagle> primoturbo: You can leave it off, but there is no harm in having it running.
[07:48] <BlueEagle> desh: There's a difference between being dumb and not knowing better. :)
[07:48] <virtk0s> I'm having an issue with xorg.conf where the only non-cloned setup I can run is a configuration with two completely independent desktops...
[07:48] <muraii> spikeb:  I get "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load:" with avisynth.dll referenced in three different places.
[07:48] <virtk0s> sound familiar to anybody?
[07:48] <spikeb> hrm
[07:48] <muraii> So, that sucks. Must be DRM'd.
[07:49] <spikeb> eh, that doesnt look like a drm problem
[07:49] <Desh> BlueEagle: Haha, thanks. I deleted ndiswrapper with adept, but I can get it from there as opposed to CLI, right?
[07:49] <nxg> hey, can any one tell me why "hibernate" is not working in breezy?
[07:49] <Biodieseler> nickrud: mvp AGP Cyberblade i7d... is that my graphics card? that is what my device manager lists...
[07:49] <muraii> nxg: Not sure of your setup, but it "just worked" for me on a Dell P3 (current system).
[07:49] <PrimoTurbo> Thanks BlueEagle
[07:50] <mustard5> nxg, I have found hibernate/suspend to be somewhat troublesome myself...it could depend on the hardware
[07:50] <BlueEagle> primoturbo: np
[07:50] <nxg> i am running P4, 256 MB RAM, dual boot.
[07:50] <mustard5> nxg, I just don't use it myself anymore, but for laptops is pretty important
[07:50] <capiCrimm> harisund, if you want it I finished a quick hack of a book ripper for orielly. It's not pretty, but it works. I'll finish it up later.
[07:50] <UKMatt> i've had problems with ctrl alt bckspace also
[07:50] <mustard5> nxg, desktop machine?
[07:51] <BlueEagle> desh: You can install it from the cd with apt-get install ndiswrapper as far as I know.
[07:51] <spikeb> suspend/hibernate doesn't work on my mac mini either
[07:51] <spikeb> nor my sister's emac
[07:51] <Desh> BlueEagle, ok thanks.
[07:51] <muraii> spikeb: Well, at least that's good.  It shouldn't be.  I'm just a bit stumped.
[07:51] <vmadmin> i have vmware installed my ip is 192.168.1.65 in my ubuntu its 192.168.1.64 now how can I assign a DIfFRENT STATIC public IP address to my vmware
[07:51] <virtk0s> i hope it's okay to post a forum link... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172205
[07:51] <spikeb> muraii: as am i
[07:51] <muraii> spikeb: I have an eMac as well.  Sleep/suspend works as flawlessly as any computer tech.
[07:52] <nxg> i heard that hibernate can be used instead of shutdown. we don't need to boot every time and it takes pretty long for me to boot ubuntu.
[07:52] <spikeb> hmm, i tried putting my sister's emac to sleep and nothing happened.
[07:52] <vmadmin> nickrud: thanks for pm
[07:52] <nickrud> Biodieseler, that's a card that uses the trident driver in xorg. I don't know if it's totally accelerated, man trident and http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Trident have more info
[07:52] <mustard5> nxg, I've disabled it on mine.  It never worked well for me with win98se either
[07:53] <nickrud> vmadmin, I get loopy when I need sleep, thanks
[07:53] <pvd2006> have a friend trying to fun airsnort and he is getting an error saying no C compiler found in $path, would he just set the $path variable to the dir that gcc is in?
[07:53] <pvd2006> run
[07:53] <vmadmin> nickrud;thats ok hope the jaw is on the mend
[07:54] <muraii> spikeb: I've been over the RestrictedFormats spot on the wiki; I've googled; I've got totem, gxine, and mplayer going.  I've got w32codecs installed.  The only thing I can think of is that--for whatever reason--none of them can find the codecs.
[07:54] <mustard5> nxg, you might try fiddling around with your BIOS options to see if that helps
[07:54] <nxg> so is it a bug(should i report it?) or can i leave it at that?
[07:54] <nickrud> vmadmin, just a little ache now and then.
[07:54] <muraii> gxine complains that it can't load because it can't find "demuxer".  Totem says the right codecs aren't installed.  mplayer complains that it can't find avisynth.dll, which actually isn't in the /usr/lib/w32/ directory.
[07:54] <BioBoy> Does anyone know if "mvp AGP Cyberblade i7d" would be my graphics card in an HP Pavilion?...
[07:55] <Smacky_Wolf> Hey all, i'm having some issues with Ubuntu recognising my NVidia Geforce 6100 builtin video card with my new PC. GDM refuses to load, and the dbug text ends with a "No Devices detected" and "Fatal Screen error: no screens found"
[07:55] <muraii> Don't know why.
[07:55] <vmadmin> nickrud: glad ompaul still asleep i would be out by now
[07:55] <mustard5> nxg, I don't know..its up to you if you want to follow through with a bug report..I would say powernowd is in need of some improvement. :)
[07:55] <mustard5> nxg, I think the problem is that power management is handled in so many different ways according to hardware
[07:55] <nickrud> hm, you pissing off ompaul takes work
[07:56] <spikeb> mustard5: that and NOBODY follows the standard.
[07:56] <specialbuddy> can anyone help with getting mysql to work with php
[07:56] <mustard5> spikeb, yeah...thats what I have read on the subject
[07:56] <nickrud> !lamp
[07:56] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:57] <specialbuddy> I'm trying to set up a lamp server for gallery
[07:57] <nxg> Can you tell me how to increase the size of the root partition? during install i set it to 4.95 gb and only very few space is left. my hard disk is 40 gb, rest is vfat windows partitions
[07:57] <vmadmin> nickrud: depends which side of the bed he got out of
[07:57] <Smacky_Wolf> nxg: you could just use something from windows like partitionmagic
[07:57] <mustard5> nxg, from linux you could use gparted
[07:58] <Smacky_Wolf> That too.
[07:58] <mustard5> nxg, or qtparted even :)
[07:59] <nxg> do i need to format a partition to ext3(that is the type of my linux partition) or leave it as vfat?
[07:59] <mustard5> nxg, you would need to do it from a live CD though
[07:59] <mustard5> nxg, you need to do it on an umounted filesystem
[07:59] <TraceGreen> Hello, i patched bootsplash to my kernel, compile sucessfully, but i can not find /proc/splash, why?
[08:00] <mustard5> nxg, hmmm..just trying to think how you would do it
[08:00] <muraii> Floppy.
[08:00] <Smacky_Wolf> Could someone maybe help me?
[08:00] <muraii> DamnSmallLinux on a floppy.
[08:01] <muraii> It fits, right?
[08:01] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, what drivers are you running atm?
[08:01] <muraii> Use gparted or whatever comes with it.  Can cfdisk resize?
[08:01] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, vesa I suppose
[08:01] <Smacky_Wolf> mustard5, no clue, whatever the 64bit ubunutu CD gave me.
[08:02] <nickrud> muraii, it's still about 50M, but toms root boot disk fits on a floppy
[08:02] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, so when did this error occur?  at install?
[08:02] <muraii> nickrud: I was wondering why a Linux boot floppy wasn't more prominent.  Maybe because you don't have to recover as often.
[08:03] <nickrud> muraii, because live cd's are dime a dozen these days :)
[08:03] <spikeb> yeah, livecd killed the bootfloppy
[08:03] <Madpilot> muraii, new computers often don't even have floppy drives
[08:03] <Smacky_Wolf> *xorg
[08:04] <muraii> nickrud: Yeah, but they're not foolproof.  I don't think I got my Ubuntu 5.10 Live CD working on this machine, and the Mandriva Live CD on a recent issue of a Linux magazine didn't do anything on this machine or another that I tried.
[08:04] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, so you reconfigured it just now?  or you reconfigured it and then the error occured?
[08:04] <muraii> Madpilot: Good point.
[08:04] <Desh> BlueEagle, you still here?
[08:04] <muraii> Madpilot: Short-sightedness, I think.
[08:04] <Smacky_Wolf> no, I just did then. it's a brand new machine
[08:04] <josh0001> Hey guys, i've just seen the videos for XGL, and they are most impressive.Is there anything preventing me from doing this myself if i install ubuntu?
[08:04] <muraii> ...but I'm old.
[08:04] <BlueEagle> desh: yes
[08:04] <nickrud> muraii, yeah, Madpilot had the best point. But I'm old also, and haven't had a floppy in my hand in easily 2 years
[08:04] <Smacky_Wolf> !mp3
[08:04] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:04] <Madpilot> muraii, nah, new mobos can boot of practically anything
[08:04] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, k..try reconfiguring to use the 'vesa' drivers so you can get a gui at least
[08:05] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, then you could work on installing nvidia drivers after that
[08:05] <Madpilot> boot from, even...
[08:05] <muraii> nickrud: I just used one not too long ago, for an ailing Intel NIC.
[08:05] <Desh> BlueEagle: If you are a guy I love you in a complerely non-homosexual way, and if a girl, in a non-binding or sexual sort of way. :)!!!!!! It worked!!
[08:05] <Desh> Haha!
[08:05] <Smacky_Wolf> mustard5, kthanks, will do
[08:05] <muraii> Desh: What'd ya get working?  I wasn't paying attention.
[08:05] <nickrud> muraii, put in on a cd, the floppy will die soon
[08:06] <Desh> The WLAN.
[08:06] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, it sounds like the installer has gone for using the 'nv' drivers...but they have failed.
[08:06] <muraii> Desh: Sweet.
[08:06] <Smacky_Wolf> Yeah, it was =3
[08:06] <BHSPitLappy> " I love you in a complerely non-homosexual way" <-- sounds like SOMEBODY's in denial...
[08:06] <Desh> It worked earlier today, but I fudged it up...
[08:06] <Smacky_Wolf> FB or not to FB?
[08:06] <muraii> Desh: You trashed ndiswrapper, right?
[08:06] <Hobbsee> BHSPitLappy: that's unnecessary, thanks.
[08:06] <BHSPitLappy> I noticed
[08:06] <nickrud> Nah, he's just open to other points of view
[08:06] <Hobbsee> Desh: same thing.
[08:06] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, choose default answer
[08:07] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, default answer for everything but the driver you want to use :)
[08:07] <Desh> Yeah.
[08:07] <Smacky_Wolf> thanks=3
[08:08] <BlueEagle> desh: Well, there you go. :)
[08:08] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, tell me when you are finished
[08:09] <Smacky_Wolf> It's booting, nearly there
[08:09] <Smacky_Wolf> Gah, sorry honey, you can't synch to the.. WOO
[08:09] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, ah ok..you can start from command line after configuring
[08:09] <Smacky_Wolf> Works =3
[08:09] <nickrud> muraii, they expect them to be in /usr/lib/win32
[08:09] <bjv> can you re-install grub with the liveCD?
[08:09] <Smacky_Wolf> I have the gdm login manager now
[08:09] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, can now type this into IRC    !nvidia
[08:09] <HIGH-FREQ> anyone know how to fix an issue with wireless and hwo its not getting a signal?  i used to then i ran update-manager  and bam..no more signal from nada using wifi-radar  so i removed wifi-radar and reinstalled it and nada...then i rmmod and modproe the bcm43xx module...and still nada
[08:10] <muraii> nickrud: Well, they're there.
[08:10] <Smacky_Wolf> !nvidia
[08:10] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:10] <PrimoTurbo> Hey does anyone know where the Ubuntu logo that is next to Applications menu is located in? I'm trying to replace it...
[08:10] <PrimoTurbo> I'm on Breezy if that helps
[08:10] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, ubotu has the answers :)
[08:10] <Smacky_Wolf> Thanks, mustard5
[08:10] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, np
[08:10] <Smacky_Wolf> Ubotu is my friend, he already told me how to get mp3 =3
[08:10] <ubotu> Smacky_Wolf: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:10] <PrimoTurbo> I tried /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png but that's not it..
[08:11] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, hehe
[08:11] <BlueEagle> high-freq: did you reboot after updating? (new kernel iirc)
[08:11] <HIGH-FREQ> ya
[08:11] <Smacky_Wolf> Hrrmmm... now to get sound going =/
[08:11] <HIGH-FREQ> did everything i could think of
[08:11] <nickrud> muraii, strange that they're not recognized. does mplayer find them?
[08:11] <Madpilot> PrimoTurbo, 2nd tip on this page should help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuickTips
[08:11] <donvella> could someone tell me how to fix this please don@CPE-203-45-144-9:~$ mplayer
[08:11] <donvella> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libdrm.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:11] <donvella> imhaving trouble loading mplayer
[08:11] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, you know you can run the x86 ubuntu version on 64bit architecture?
[08:12] <donvella> mustard5: Im doing it right now. working fine.
[08:12] <josh0001> Is anyone running XGL?
[08:12] <Smacky_Wolf> Mustard5, I had a 64 bit distro laying around
[08:12] <zcat[1] > josh0001: lots of ppl
[08:12] <vmadmin> Madpilot: if i want to submit a hoto the the unbuntu wiki I was told I might ask you first
[08:12] <donvella> mustard5: I have an AMD64 and i run 386_ubuntu
[08:12] <vmadmin> howto
[08:12] <josh0001> zcat[1] ,  is it hard to install?
[08:13] <PrimoTurbo> Madpilot: The problem is that there is no ubuntu logo in that directory
[08:13] <donvella> anybody know how to fix my mplayer error? (don@CPE-203-45-144-9:~$ mplayer
[08:13] <donvella> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libdrm.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:13] <donvella> )
[08:13] <PrimoTurbo> Madpilot: Breezy already has an ubuntu logo near applications, I'm trying to change it to another logo I have
[08:13] <Madpilot> vmadmin, I'm hardly in charge of the wiki - but join #ubuntu-doc if you want to chat about the wiki, please
[08:13] <mustard5> donvella, yeah..I hear its more satisfying than the 64bit ubuntu
[08:13] <BlueEagle> donvella: which file are you trying to play?
[08:13] <Madpilot> PrimoTurbo, the method mentioned there should work for any logo, I'd think...
[08:13] <zcat[1] > kinda tricky.. the packages get updated all the time, so it takes figuring out. The guides on the web are never quite right.
[08:14] <zcat[1] > PrimoTurbo: I figured this out the other day; hang on..
[08:14] <Smacky_Wolf> !apt
[08:14] <ubotu> [apt]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[08:14] <donvella> BlueEagle: i just want to stream media through the webpage www.ebaumsworld.com but it gets to 100% buffering (using mplayer) then says stopped, i right click and press play but then it says stop. so i tried to launch mplayer, wont load, i tried in console, i get that message.
[08:14] <PrimoTurbo> It doesn't work :(
[08:14] <BlueEagle> donvella: "Note: WMV files encoded with DRM (Digital Rights Management) are not playable by the codecs." from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:14] <zcat[1] > PrimoTurbo: run gconf-editor
[08:14] <PrimoTurbo> I just noticed the logo doesn't scale
[08:14] <PrimoTurbo> k
[08:14] <donvella> BlueEagle: what does this mean?
[08:14] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, another trick with ubotu is   /msg ubotu apt    so he sends you private messages
[08:15] <BlueEagle> donvella: since libdrm is what is missing I am guessing DRM is the case.
[08:15] <donvella> DRM/
[08:15] <donvella> ?
[08:15] <BlueEagle> donvella: Digital rights management (encryption)
[08:15] <zcat[1] > navigate to apps > panel > objects
[08:15] <zcat[1] > and find the menu object..
[08:15] <donvella> BlueEagle: in other words i cant view it without using windows?
[08:15] <Smacky_Wolf> Coolies. Can I just grab files as .deb from the apt repositories? my linux box has no internets at this stage
[08:16] <muraii> nickrud: Nope.  It apparently doesn't initiate RTC in ioctl, and suggests putting "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" in my startup.  It's looking for avisynth.dll at startup, goes through the motions of finding other plugins.
[08:16] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, you can download them from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:16] <PrimoTurbo> this could work hold on
[08:16] <PrimoTurbo> thnx btw
[08:16] <Smacky_Wolf> excelllent =3
[08:16] <zcat[1] > there are options for 'custom icon' (string) and 'use custom icon' (boolean)
[08:16] <Desh> My CDs don;t auto-play :(
[08:16] <Smacky_Wolf> thank you so much
[08:16] <PrimoTurbo> yeah I see now
[08:16] <PrimoTurbo> gonna try it in a sec
[08:16] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, you might need to do some homework on the dependencies of each package
[08:16] <bjv> Can you reinstall Grub from the liveCD?
[08:16] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, as a package might need a number of other packages installed as well
[08:16] <bjv> i need to fix mine.
[08:16] <zcat[1] > that changes the ubuntu icon on the menu. I have a ute kiwifruit icon now :)
[08:17] <zcat[1] > s/ute/cute/
[08:17] <BlueEagle> donvella: You can't view it because it uses the wmv format with DRM. It being windows media video means that the distributor of the stream unfortunately is favouring windows. Please email them and tell them that you are unable to use their service because of this and politely ask them to concider other formats for their streams.
[08:17] <vmadmin> Madpilot: sorry i offer my humble apologies
[08:17] <Smacky_Wolf> mandrake is evil... anything without apt is evil.
[08:17] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, apt-get normally takes care of all that, but need internet of course
[08:17] <donvella> i can run wmv files though.
[08:17] <Desh> How to I make it so CDs are automatically mounted? USB drives also. After a nasty shutdown both have stopped automatically mounting.
[08:17] <BlueEagle> donvella: not with DRM you can't.
[08:17] <Smacky_Wolf> Do you think I could share a dialup connection over a 2 PC network, where the other machine is winXP?
[08:17] <BlueEagle> donvella: non-encryptet wmv files run fine.
[08:17] <Madpilot> vmadmin, no apologies needed - if you have questions about contributing to the wiki, #ubuntu-doc is the best place to ask them
[08:17] <BlueEagle> encrypted*
[08:17] <Desh> Before, when I put a CD in or plugged in a USB drive, they would appear on the desktop.
[08:18] <zcat[1] > Smacky_Wolf: easy. Turn on connection sharing on XP, let ubuntu probe it with dhcp..
[08:18] <Smacky_Wolf> excellent
[08:18] <PrimoTurbo> zcat: Doesn't seem to work, I did killall gnome-panel :(
[08:18] <Smacky_Wolf> Thans you so much for your help.
[08:18] <zcat[1] > but why would you want to? dialup is slow enough with just one user :)
[08:18] <Smacky_Wolf> I can;t get broadband where I am
[08:18] <vmadmin> Madpilot: ok just I saw your nic on a recent doc --but thanks for info
[08:19] <zcat[1] > PrimoTurbo: darn.. perhaps it's not using that setting in breezy yet. I have daper.
[08:19] <muraii> Just requires a little patience.
[08:19] <Smacky_Wolf> damn country :(
[08:19] <Madpilot> vmadmin, I edit docs all over the wiki ;)
[08:19] <donvella> This isnt australian server is it?
[08:19] <PrimoTurbo> Yeah maybe
[08:19] <PrimoTurbo> hmm
[08:19] <vmadmin> Madpilot: ok well done :)
[08:20] <PrimoTurbo> I think it's a graphic that's 24x24 because it doesn't resize if I increase the size of the panel
[08:20] <Smacky_Wolf> donvella, I greet the brisbanite =3
[08:20] <mustard5> donvella, its just 'that time of day' for the australians to be on :)
[08:20] <BlueEagle> donvella: Are you chatting long distance? http://bash.org/?142934
[08:20] <donvella> i dont think so, unless im the only australian
[08:20] <Desh> Before a nasty shutdown, my CDs and USB drives would automatically appear on the desktop when plugged in. Now, if I put a CD in I have to go to media and click on the CD for it to mount. USB drives don;t appear at all. Any way to revert it to how it used to be?
[08:21] <mustard5> Desh, yeah..I'm not exactly sure what the answer is to your issue
[08:21] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: So you upgraded the kernel but forgot to re-setup the firmware?
[08:21] <mustard5> Desh, the fact that it occured after a 'nasty shutdown' sort of complicates the matter
[08:22] <mustard5> Desh, how many reboots have you had since then?
[08:22] <Desh> I see, yeah, the USB drive said WRITING ? READING even though the transfer was done, and the PC locked up.
[08:22] <phrizer> BlueEagle, hah.
[08:22] <Desh> Like...6?
[08:22] <mustard5> Desh, k
[08:23] <muraii> Okay.  If I can't get xine to respond in a console, via "$ xine --list-plugins", well, I might not even have it freakin' installed.
[08:23] <muraii> Wouldn't that be nice.
[08:23] <Desh> Ok, I plugged in a USB drive just now, but I don;t see it appear anywhere. How would I mount it?
[08:23] <mustard5> Desh, hmm..thats sounds quite nasty really
[08:23] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: no update manager just updates pkgs  right?
[08:24] <mustard5> Desh, type sudo fdisk -l     that will tell you if linux is seeing it and what the device is called
[08:24] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: Yes, but if you happen to have the kernel metapackage installed, it *will* pull in a new kernel.
[08:24] <muraii> I've got libxine1c2 installed, though.
[08:24] <HIGH-FREQ> bah
[08:24] <mustard5> Desh, look for /dev/sda  somewhere in the output
[08:24] <gnu2it2> can someone clear up my confusion? i can feel the air from the fan is hotter when i run XP, but the battery life is shorter running debian/ubuntu
[08:24] <HIGH-FREQ> i'll check into that then ;(
[08:24] <HIGH-FREQ> where would it be.../usr/src/linux?
[08:25] <BioBoy> this linux shite is awesome. cheers to all who use.
[08:25] <mustard5> BioBoy, :)
[08:25] <muraii> BioBoy: Definitely has its points.
[08:25] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, what type of card?
[08:25] <Smacky_Wolf> How the hell am I supposed to make sound work??
[08:26] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: Are you using the firmware package?
[08:26] <BlueEagle> gnu2it2: XP is probably running frequency scaling when running on batteries while ubuntu uses the full potential of the processor at all times. (just a guess)
[08:26] <Desh> 2100 MB, yes, it sees it. Disk /dev/sda
[08:26] <muraii> Yeah, it's nice.
[08:26] <mustard5> Desh, type mount     and see if it is listed in the output
[08:26] <AlmtyBob> has anyone installed an eggdrop in ubuntu using the package manager? I can't find the config file
[08:26] <BlueEagle> gnu2it2: XP migh also throttle the fan making the air seem hotter since it has got a lower velocity than when the fan is running at full speed.
[08:26] <Smacky_Wolf> Welll, it's a builtin card, but the card is... *reads* a SoundMaxADI  AAD1986A
[08:27] <Desh> mustard5: No
[08:27] <jenda> AlmtyBob: in synaptic, you can click properties to see the list of all installed files
[08:27] <BlueEagle> gnu2it2: (again, just guessing)
[08:27] <AlmtyBob> thanks jenda I'll try that
[08:27] <jenda> np
[08:27] <mustard5> Desh, k..so its not mounted yet.....thats ok..just wanted to check...   now is it /dev/sda1 ?
[08:27] <Desh> just dev/sda
[08:27] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, does it show any modules loading with lsmod?
[08:28] <gnu2it2> BlueEagle: that is the first answer tha makes sence
[08:28] <mustard5> Desh, hmm ok...try this command...(writing it out)
[08:28] <BlueEagle> gnu2it2: I've been known to be a good guesser. :)
[08:28] <root> hey guys
[08:28] <Smacky_Wolf> can't see anyhting that looks audio-like, mustard5
[08:28] <mustard5> Desh, sudo mkdir /media/temp1
[08:29] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, bummer
[08:29] <Smacky_Wolf> =/
[08:29] <Desh> Ok...
[08:29] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, it looks like a ubuntu forum search job ..or google search job
[08:29] <Smacky_Wolf> apparantly, the sound doesn't work with the dapper testing, but they hope it will when the thing is done
[08:29] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, not loading modules is disappointing
[08:29] <Smacky_Wolf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Asus_A8N-VM?highlight=%28A8N-VM%29 <-- my mobo
[08:29] <crimsun> Smacky_Wolf: did you file a bug report?
[08:30] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, ah..hehe..you been researching already :)
[08:30] <Desh> mustard5, well it made a folder called temp1 under /media/
[08:30] <BlueEagle> smacky_wolf: what does lspci have to say about your sound card?
[08:30] <Smacky_Wolf> BlueEagle: Unknown device (NVidia)
[08:30] <Desh> mustard5, however it won't appear under media:/ in the taskbar, and under /media/ there is a folder called usbdisk
[08:30] <Smacky_Wolf> er
[08:30] <mustard5> Desh, k..   sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/temp1 -o user,uid=1000,gid=1000
[08:30] <Madpilot> azz_wipe, please choose a nicer nick...
[08:30] <Smacky_Wolf> wiat
[08:30] <azz_wipe> hi guys .. anyone know what the root password in kubuntu ?
[08:31] <Smacky_Wolf> nothing, actually =/
[08:31] <Smacky_Wolf> crimsun, i'm just trying to install now
[08:31] <Desh> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,
[08:32] <azz_wipe> it's not working .. the password for root ?
[08:32] <azz_wipe> kubuntu
[08:32] <iNiku> azz_wipe: there is no password for root
[08:32] <iNiku> !root
[08:32] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:32] <mustard5> Desh, its a fat filesystem?
[08:32] <Desh> Yes.
[08:32] <mustard5> Desh, I think we are meant to type /dev/sda1 actually :)
[08:32] <azz_wipe> ooh .. i see
[08:32] <azz_wipe> thanks
[08:33] <bimberi> ubotu tell azz_wipe about root
[08:33] <Desh> Well...
[08:33] <Desh> No errors..
[08:33] <mustard5> Desh, ok   cd /media/temp1
[08:33] <mustard5> Desh, the ls   to list contents
[08:33] <mustard5> Desh, *then ls
[08:34] <Darkone> does anyone know where I can find the sources.list entries for the south african deb mirrors ?
[08:34] <mustard5> Darkone, if you type !easysource in IRC you can get a good link
[08:35] <azz_wipe> it's long way .. to use root in ubuntu :-)
[08:35] <Darkone> !easysource
[08:35] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:35] <BlueEagle> smacky_wolf: lspci|grep audio   <= this gives you nothing?
[08:35] <rdsworks> hi
[08:35] <Darkone> lovely
[08:35] <Darkone> thanx azz_wipe ;-) nice nick btw
[08:35] <Desh> Nothing...
[08:35] <Smacky_Wolf> BlueEagle: not a sausage
[08:35] <AlmtyBob> jenda: it didn't install a config file, only a gzipped example in an examples dir, any idea where to put it? It doesn't say in the man page or egghelp.org
[08:35] <azz_wipe> ;-)
[08:36] <gnu2it2> anyone using a usb memory stick to boot laptop(thinkpad t30) with ubuntu?
[08:36] <azz_wipe> it's nothing mr admin .. no kicking plz
[08:36] <HIGH-FREQ> on updating where is the kernel?  i don't see a kernel in /usr/src
[08:36] <rdsworks> could someone help me get gpp working under ubuntu 5.1
[08:36] <BlueEagle> smacky_wolf: is the audio chip enabled in the bios?
[08:36] <HIGH-FREQ> i see linux-headers-blahblah
[08:36] <jenda> AlmtyBob: hm... it should say somewhere, but such files are usually put in the Home dir (such as .inputrc) - but you would have to know their name.
[08:36] <aftertaf> HIGH-FREQ: its by package, by default
[08:37] <Smacky_Wolf> BlueEagle, I don't think it can be disabled.. *reads a little*
[08:37] <HIGH-FREQ> by pkg?
[08:37] <AlmtyBob> k, I know the name of the file actually
[08:37] <HIGH-FREQ> how can i get into it and compile it
[08:37] <mikl> hey, does userfriendly.org work for you guys?
[08:37] <AlmtyBob> and it tells you should change the name of the .conf to something arbitrary, I think I can figure it out
[08:37] <HIGH-FREQ>  i did linux-k7 i think
[08:37] <aftertaf> HIGH-FREQ: yep... you want to compile yourself? cos if you did k7 you have the latest
[08:37] <Desh> mustard5, Ok, it worked..
[08:37] <azz_wipe> kinda confuse  using ubuntu for the first. root always my start
[08:37] <HIGH-FREQ> but i don't see a /usr/src/linux  like on other distro's...well i did have to do ln -s  and make the link
[08:37] <Desh> got sent to sdb2...
[08:37] <BlueEagle> smacky_wolf: Well if lspci doesn't find it... Which motherboard have you got?
[08:38] <HIGH-FREQ> ok how do i get into the k7
[08:38] <Smacky_Wolf> Asus A8N-VM
[08:38] <HIGH-FREQ> so i can add some stuff or whatever
[08:38] <mustard5> HIGH-FREQ, if you apt-get the kernel it normally installs and updates grub
[08:38] <Smacky_Wolf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Asus_A8N-VM?highlight=%28A8N-VM%29 <-- that
[08:38] <HIGH-FREQ> ya i noticed that
[08:38] <aftertaf> HIGH-FREQ: you can get the sources.... package too... you can then  compile
[08:38] <mustard5> Desh, not sure why its not showing on desktop though
[08:38] <aftertaf> looking fpr package name (forgot it ) :)
[08:38] <HIGH-FREQ> so linux-sources-k7 or somethin
[08:38] <HIGH-FREQ> and it'll install to /usr/src ?
[08:38] <Smacky_Wolf> the wiki doesn't say anything about sound not working for Breezy, though
[08:38] <aftertaf> hehe yep
[08:39] <HIGH-FREQ> hmm
[08:39] <muraii_> So, just in case the split killed my comments, I'm going to potentially spam.
[08:39] <muraii_> Anyone used the "essential-2005412" codecs from mplayerhq.hu?
[08:39] <muraii_> I mean, mplayer finds 200 video codecs, so it's odd that one of them wouldn't open the damn file.  Installing every codec out there in a vain attempt to watch a boring lecture seems a bit...Microsoftish.
[08:39] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, I'd file the bug report so hopefully it can be fixed
[08:39] <aftertaf> deban made simple... but can be unsimple if you wish ;)
[08:39] <Smacky_Wolf> mustard5, I shall do that, then
[08:40] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, http://launchpad.net
[08:40] <HIGH-FREQ> then again..i'll just d/l the 2.6.17-rc3 from kernel.org and do my own...cuz i hear broadcom moduels work nicely in it
[08:40] <crimsun> Smacky_Wolf: I need ``lspci -nv && lspci -v && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[08:40] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Smacky_Wolf about bug
[08:41] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: They also work fine in 2.6.15-22, which has the exact same module (backported)
[08:41] <BlueEagle> smacky_wolf: "I haven't tried the on board sound in Linux yet. Recent ALSA changelog entries mention the ad1986a chip, so I expect this should work." from http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/77909774/m/924000436731/r/950004536731
[08:41] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: ya thats what i have....BUT earlier i upgraded pkg's  using the updater  and bam...no signal at all
[08:42] <HIGH-FREQ> i see the routers..but no signal
[08:42] <BlueEagle> smacky_wolf: so attempt to sudo modprobe ad1986a
[08:42] <BlueEagle> smacky_wolf: not sure it will do anything tho.
[08:42] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: Yes, if you sued the bcm43xx-firmware package, you need to update the firmware symlinks. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure bcm43xx-firmware'
[08:42] <HIGH-FREQ> i've been using wifi-radar   and works nicely...till updates...now i can't figure out how to get signal back
[08:42] <aftertaf> HIGH-FREQ: hmm, something else then...... dont know what though. ask here ;)
[08:42] <crimsun> BlueEagle: he would need snd-hda-intel.
[08:42] <Desh> mustard5, this doesn;t create a perma mount or anything, right?
[08:42] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego:  aaah ....
[08:42] <mustard5> Desh, no
[08:43] <aftertaf> hehe cafuego to the rescue, as usual :)
[08:43] <mustard5> Desh, you might want to write down the command or save it in a text file, until you work out what the problem is :)
[08:43] <Smacky_Wolf> BlueEagle, modprobe did apparantly nothing
[08:43] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: I don't know how to hook into the linux-image postinst script, to make it do that automagically.
[08:43] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: So it needs to be done by hand for now
[08:43] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, check crimsun's message above
[08:43] <Desh> Yeah, thanks!! :)
[08:44] <Desh> I'm out, thanks for all the help!
[08:44] <HIGH-FREQ> k
[08:44] <HIGH-FREQ> lemme try that....
[08:44] <Smacky_Wolf> I;m so confused.. one second
[08:44] <Smacky_Wolf> What am I looking for in that output?
[08:45] <crimsun> Smacky_Wolf: pastebin it so I can look at it.
[08:45] <mustard5> Smacky_Wolf, pastebin the output
[08:45] <mustard5> !pastebin
[08:45] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:45] <Smacky_Wolf> all it looks like is a verbose version of what I had before
[08:46] <crimsun> Smacky_Wolf: url?
[08:46] <cafuego> Hello, empty 140GB nfs mount
[08:46] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: so just  dpkg-reconfigure bcm43xx-firmware    that it
[08:47] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: Yes, well, you may need to reload the bcm43x driver
[08:47] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: and I'm assuming you fetched and installed the bcm43xx-firmware package
[08:48] <HIGH-FREQ> i already have it...
[08:48] <HIGH-FREQ> installed
[08:48] <HIGH-FREQ> so just reconfigure  right
[08:48] <driggers> hi.  i want to install something from source.  are there a few common commands i should know?  like... i've extracted to a folder on my desktops theres lots of stuff in the folder including config and make files.... do i just go in and type config then make... and ...what else?
[08:48] <driggers> i don't care if this works perfectly or not.  just want some hints or notions
[08:49] <BlueEagle> !build
[08:49] <ubotu> If you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with
[08:49] <stubby> !build
[08:49] <BlueEagle> driggers: what ubotu said
[08:49] <Smacky_Wolf> gah
[08:49] <driggers> ubotu has said nothing yet
[08:49] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, driggers
[08:49] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: or should i just remove the pkg and reinstall it
[08:50] <driggers> k
[08:50] <BlueEagle> 08:49 < ubotu> If you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with
[08:50] <Smacky_Wolf> I can't pastebin, it's too long and on another PC
[08:50] <Smacky_Wolf> laggg
[08:51] <driggers> oh.  yes.
[08:51] <Smacky_Wolf> thanks fot the help, guys. Much appreciated <3
[08:51] <driggers> i was expecting a pm
[08:51] <crimsun> Smacky_Wolf: redirect all the output to a file, bzip2 it, and sneakernet it over, then pastebin.
[08:51] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell driggers about build
[08:51] <BlueEagle> driggers: that better?
[08:51] <BlueEagle> :p
[08:51] <driggers> lol. yes
[08:51] <driggers> i got it
[08:51] <driggers> i mean i get it
[08:52] <BlueEagle> driggers: also, after installing it, go to the directory with the source and ./configure && make && sudo make install
[08:52] <BlueEagle> driggers: After that it's just a matter of finding out where the application went. /usr/local is a popular place.
[08:53] <chenjf> hi
[08:56] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: Just dpkg-reconfigure
[08:56] <HIGH-FREQ> k
[08:56] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: that does exacly the same as reinstalling
[08:56] <HIGH-FREQ> reboot?
[08:56] <HIGH-FREQ> hmm...
[08:58] <josh0001> Hello, how big should a swap partition be? thanks
[08:58] <driggers> error:  cannot install build-essentials b/c i can't find my friggin install cds :P
[08:58] <barry> HI was wondering if someone could help with an install problem?
[08:58] <aftertaf> barry: ask away
[08:59] <barry> I get gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found when trying to install my vpn program.....
[08:59] <aftertaf> install buld-essentials
[08:59] <aftertaf> !be
[08:59] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, aftertaf
[08:59] <foogle> AHhh guys help me my gnome bar menu  is in german I think
[09:00] <aftertaf> lol foogle :)
[09:00] <barry> I have build-essensials installed
[09:00] <Madpilot> !b-e
[09:00] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[09:00] <aftertaf> barry: check automake & autoconf too. what do you have installed? versions?
[09:00] <foogle> everything is in english  but my menu is german
[09:01] <aftertaf> foogle: dpkg-reconfigure locales? checked localisation?
[09:01] <barry> Pretty new at this aftertaf, keep with me :0).... How do I check these versions?
[09:01] <aftertaf> s'ok barry :)    open synaptic and search them.
[09:02] <barry> search for automake and autoconf?
[09:02] <bjv> Can you reinstall Grub off the ubuntu liveCD?
[09:02] <bjv> i need to. :|
[09:02] <aftertaf> barry: yes
[09:03] <aftertaf> you need them too. your pb might not be that, though.....
[09:03] <aftertaf> just an idea.....
[09:04] <aftertaf> barry: check that you have them installed, and tell us the version.... then give us the error you get exactly.
[09:04] <HIGH-FREQ> hmm...isn't  sudo dpkg-reconfigure bcm43xx-firmware   supposed to give more of an output than just go directly back to prompt like in 2 seconds
[09:04] <barry> after: Don't get anthing for these searches?  Could it be the version of gcc that i'm using?
[09:04] <foogle> aftertaf  whats the second thing you said
[09:04] <aftertaf> dunno.... barry   try sudo apt-get install automake autoconf
[09:05] <foogle> aftertaf  checked localisation?
[09:05] <aftertaf> foogle: localisation... the language config in gnome.
[09:05] <HIGH-FREQ> or should i just do  apt-get remove  and then apt-get install
[09:05] <barry> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:05] <barry> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:05] <foogle> ok
[09:05] <aftertaf> HIGH-FREQ: no  need: does the same.
[09:05] <aftertaf> barry: sudo ;)
[09:05] <HIGH-FREQ> well its not spittin out an output
[09:05] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get ...
[09:05] <HIGH-FREQ> just goes back to prompt like 2 seconds
[09:05] <aftertaf> HIGH-FREQ: no output != error in linux ;)
[09:05] <foogle> aftertaf  i set it to  en_US
[09:06] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: It should show you that it's removing and resetting symlinks
[09:06] <HIGH-FREQ> ya it doesn't
[09:06] <aftertaf> foogle: open synaptic and check the gnome localisation packages you have instaled. delete the german one ;)
[09:06] <HIGH-FREQ> i'm on the net..i just pinged google  so i'm good there....
[09:06] <foogle> Ohhh
[09:06] <HIGH-FREQ> sudo dpkg-reconfigure bcm43xx-firmware
[09:06] <barry> Atertaf:  I do -> sudo apt-get install automake autoconf and get those errors?
[09:06] <HIGH-FREQ> and goes back to prompt with nada...  what bout  dpkg-reconfigure  dpkg
[09:06] <HIGH-FREQ> lol
[09:07] <aftertaf> barry: then you have synaptic open somewhere?
[09:07] <barry> doh!
[09:07] <aftertaf> lol
[09:07] <aftertaf> happens to all of us
[09:07] <barry> Reading package lists... Done
[09:07] <barry> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:07] <barry> Package automake is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:07] <barry> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:07] <barry> is only available from another source
[09:07] <barry> E: Package automake has no installation candidate
[09:07] <Hobbsee> barry: do not paste!
[09:07] <HIGH-FREQ> should i just do remove and install
[09:08] <barry> sorry...
[09:08] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[09:08] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:08] <HIGH-FREQ> till i can figure out why
[09:08] <aftertaf> barry: open synaptic and look for it. get minimum version 1.7
[09:09] <foogle> aftertaf  umm what would my localisations packages look like ?
[09:10] <aftertaf> under gnome. not sure. i'm kubuntu :)
[09:10] <foogle> aftertaf whats the name scheme?
[09:10] <aftertaf> foogle: language-pack-gnome-
[09:10] <aftertaf> apt-cache search :)
[09:11] <muraii> So, I thought this might be helpful:
[09:11] <HIGH-FREQ> oh great
[09:12] <barry> after: I do a search for automake, get a few packages back but nothing called automake? The only installed one within the list is pkg-config
[09:12] <PrimoTurbo> Hey guys
[09:12] <muraii> Among all the codec downloading, installing, and removing, it didn't really occur to me (except in passing) that I should check the .wmv file.  So, well, asshat that I am, I was fretting because none of the media players would play a 0-byte file.
[09:12] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: ...package bcm43xx-firmware is not availabe, but is refered to by another package..this may mean that the pkg is missing, has been obsolete, or is only available from another source  E: pkg bcm43xx-firmware has no installation candidate
[09:12] <PrimoTurbo> I need some help, totem plays the video all pixelated in mplayer I use gl2 but I don't know how to change it for totem
[09:13] <muraii> I mean, holy crap.
[09:13] <muraii> I'm retarded.
[09:13] <spikeb> hahahhaha muraii
[09:13] <muraii> I am sofa king we taught it.
[09:13] <muraii> spikeb: Thought you'd appreciate that.
[09:13] <spikeb> muraii: been there, done that :)
[09:13] <aftertaf> barry: weird, try apt-cache search automake
[09:14] <aftertaf> you see anything
[09:14] <muraii> "Gee, I'm clueless.  None of these advanced codecs seem to be able to extract something out of nothing.  What's zero-point energy for, anyway?"
[09:14] <barry> is that a command for the terminal?
[09:14] <aftertaf> yep
[09:14] <muraii> So, now it's the whee morning hours, work looms in a couple of hours, so I bid you all adieu.  Thanks for the help as well.
[09:15] <PrimoTurbo> Does anyone know how to switch Totem to opengl like mplayer?
[09:15] <PrimoTurbo> I'm messing with gstreamer-properties
[09:15] <PrimoTurbo> but the problem is that there is no opengl setting
[09:15] <aftertaf> barry: try sudo apt-get install automake1.7    what does it say?
[09:16] <PrimoTurbo> There is ximagesink which is X11 and No Xv any ideas?
[09:16] <barry> Package automake1.7 is not available, but is referred to by another package................
[09:17] <aftertaf> weird.....
[09:17] <aftertaf> barry, what ubuntu version are you on?
[09:17] <aftertaf> !info automake
[09:18] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: <heh> Just re-fetch it from the website and install it again.
[09:18] <aftertaf> !info automake1.7
[09:18] <ubotu> automake1.7: (A tool for generating GNU Standards-compliant Makefiles), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.7.9-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 382 kB, Installed size: 1292 kB
[09:19] <HIGH-FREQ> k
[09:19] <barry> Yeah???  I have had this installed before.  My laptop crashed the other day and i'm reinstalling everything. Version 5.1 from the website
[09:19] <aftertaf> you enabled all repositories?
[09:20] <barry> ???Dunno??:0)
[09:20] <aftertaf> :)
[09:20] <aftertaf> !easysources
[09:20] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, aftertaf
[09:20] <PrimoTurbo> Where do u add 	Option 		"OpenGLOverlay" 	"off" in xorg under which part?
[09:20] <aftertaf> !repos
[09:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:21] <barry> What does !easysources and !repos mean ?? is that for me after?
[09:22] <aftertaf> yep see what ubotu said.
[09:23] <aftertaf> back later all
[09:23] <Dodol> hola
[09:23] <HIGH-FREQ> yo
[09:23] <HIGH-FREQ> laterz
[09:23] <HIGH-FREQ> ok d/l now cafuego
[09:23] <Dodol> anybody there?
[09:24] <HIGH-FREQ> ya sup
[09:24] <Hobbsee> barry: anything with a ! in front of it is a command that you can either use /msg ubotu (thing after the !) or do a !(nameoffactoid) in the channel, and ubotu will send you a message about that thing.
[09:25] <Dodol> [plll
[09:25] <Dodol> ,
[09:25] <Dodol> l[l,[
[09:25] <Dodol> ,l[
[09:25] <Dodol> l,[
[09:25] <HIGH-FREQ> Dodol: what u needin?
[09:25] <HIGH-FREQ> cept a new keyboard
[09:25] <Hobbsee> mustard5: oh dear...hehe
[09:25] <mustard5> heheh
[09:25] <benplaut|afk> anyone here have the PlatinUm gtk2 theme? the guy's site is down
[09:27] <Hobbsee> mustard5: i cant believe that they have no active ops there...or no !op command....
[09:27] <mustard5> yeah..its pretty bad :)
[09:27] <mustard5> flood protection got him..hehe
[09:27] <Hobbsee> hehe...for a bit
[09:27] <mustard5> oh..he's back :D
[09:27] <yaaar> word
[09:27] <Madpilot> someone spamming #debian?
[09:28] <mustard5> Madpilot, hugely :)
[09:28] <yaaar> anybody out there have a recommendation for a web-based file manager? like, if i've got a raid nfs/samba server, and i'd like to let people log into it from their browser and up/download files....
[09:28] <barry> !(easysources)
[09:28] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, barry
[09:28] <Hobbsee> !easysource
[09:28] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:29] <Hobbsee> barry: without the brackets :)
[09:29] <barry> Thanks Hobbsee
[09:29] <yaaar> preferably w/ homedirs and quotas, etc
[09:29] <Madpilot> heh. botspam, or giant paste of something like xorg.conf?
[09:29] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: botspam...
[09:29] <mikl> yaaar: you could probably use WebDAV or something like that
[09:29] <Hobbsee> @cpe-066-057-212-144.sc.res.rr.com - look familiar?
[09:29] <spikeb> haha
[09:29] <spikeb> now he's spamming the bot too
[09:29] <mustard5> :)
[09:30] <yaaar> miki; isn't webdav a server component/api kind of thing? i'm just looking for some php filemanager interface or something...
[09:30] <benplaut> ok, #debian bot klined :D
[09:30] <Hobbsee> mustard5: oh what a shame...hehe :P
[09:30] <mustard5> :D
[09:30] <spikeb> heh that was entertaining
[09:31] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, there's a very similar IP already in this channel's ban list...
[09:32] <Hobbsee> that's what i thought...i think i had the honour of banning it...
[09:32] <Hobbsee> spikeb: hmm?
[09:33] <spikeb> Hobbsee: banning the flooder :)
[09:33] <Hobbsee> ah
 Saw this one thing on another big channel. They had a bot that checked the hostmask of people vs the ban list and kicking them. This worked fine until a op accidentally banned *!*@*.no (this was a norwegian channel)</offtopic>
[09:37] <Madpilot> Stupid Op Tricks ;)
[09:37] <spikeb> haha blu
[09:39] <barry> HI All after was helping me but seems to have gone now, is there anyone else that can help me wth my vpn install problem?
[09:40] <cafuego> !stupid op trick
[09:41] <ferronica> from where u guys giver order for ubuntu CD
[09:41] <ferronica> can u give the link'
[09:41] <cafuego> shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <stubby> is anyone running dokuwiki on their ubuntu box ?
[09:42] <beford> they aren't sending cds right, now, as cafuego suggested wait for the next version
[09:43] <Cryptid> Can anyone help configure my network(static ip address and stuff) in nUbuntu
[09:43] <stubby> i'm having some trouble accessing the dokuwiki i setup over the net.
[09:43] <barry> When i run sudo ./vpn_install I get make errors like  -> "line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found".  I have build-essentials installed.  I also have gcc version 4:4.0.1-3.  ANy ideas anyone?,
[09:43] <stubby> it works fine via localhost
[09:44] <cafuego> barry: ouch! ouch!
[09:44] <ferronica> he is talking abot mid may
[09:44] <cafuego> barry: what are you installing?
[09:44] <ferronica> to order dapper drake
[09:44] <beford> barry, install gcc-3-4
[09:44] <yaaar> anybody round here have a recommendation on a web-based filemanager?
[09:44] <ferronica> Dapper Drake 6.06
[09:44] <barry> caf: A vpn client to log into work.
[09:44] <barry> beford:  it doesn't seem to be there???
[09:45] <cafuego> barry: Is it a vendor-specific vpn?
[09:45] <beford> barry, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 ?
[09:45] <barry> caf: its cisco (i think) my works work from home disk.
[09:46] <cafuego> barry: Ah ok, so openvpn or pptpd would be useless... you indeed need gcc-3.4 then.
[09:46] <Cryptid> Can some one help me configure my network details on Ubuntu i am using Flux and i am unable to find the Network settings options(Using nUbuntu)
[09:46] <barry> bed:  I get ->"Package gcc-3.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[09:46] <cafuego> Cryptid: sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[09:46] <beford> barry, check your repositories
[09:47] <ferronica> how many other linux r free like ubuntu???
[09:47] <Cryptid> cafuego, ok thanx but u need more help i will give u my network detials will u tell me the exact steps please...
[09:47] <cafuego> ferronica: free to download? hundreds... but I do not know of any others that send out CDs for free.
[09:48] <JraNil> hi list, i have got some prb with dapper beta 2 ,
[09:48] <JraNil> i want to set proxy ( user : pass ) but it dose not work propably
[09:48] <beford> Cryptid, man ifconfig
[09:48] <ferronica> cafuego: i wanna use only which are 100% free like UBUNTU
[09:48] <cafuego> ferronica: hundreds
[09:48] <JraNil> i used http://user:pass@proxy:port in /et/apt/apt.conf
[09:48] <ferronica> cafuego: but good one
[09:49] <ferronica> cafuego: name some
[09:49] <cafuego> ferronica: WHich one you use depends on what you want to do with it and what hardware you have
[09:49] <cafuego> debian/slack/fedora
[09:49] <beford> ferronica, you can still download ubuntu
[09:49] <ferronica> cafuego: i wanna use it for personal
[09:49] <JraNil> but it dose not connect to proxy server, is there any limitation working with proxy ( user and password enabled )?
[09:49] <cafuego> ferronica: As desktop? Then Ubuntu is a really nice only.
[09:49] <Cryptid> cafuego, ok i after i enter these details do i have to use any command to start the network (i mean for the setting to take effect any command is to be used????)
[09:50] <ferronica> cafuego: yes DESKTOP
[09:50] <Bader> I havn't any /dev/cdrom nor /dev/hdc, how could I recreate them ?
[09:50] <Isyth> heyhey, it works, haha, it finally works!
[09:50] <spikeb> Isyth: sweet
[09:50] <cafuego> Cryptid: Yes, after you set up the details, you need to run 'sudo ifup -a'
[09:50] <ferronica> cafuego: r u using firefox 1.5???
[09:50] <cafuego> ferronica: yes
[09:51] <beford> Bader, man mknod
[09:51] <ferronica> cafuego: OR  firefox 1.0.8???
[09:51] <Isyth> just one thing though, it doesn't want to play mp3's in rythmbox or totem, what is a good alternative?
[09:51] <spikeb> !mp3
[09:51] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:51] <JraNil> any suggestion?
[09:51] <Cryptid> cafuego, thanx i will try it out i just downloaded nUbuntu and wsa not able to understand how to configure the network (i am new to flux and more over i am not much of a command line guy)
[09:52] <ferronica> cafuego: will u tell me step wise how to install firefox 1.5, i hav already downloded and saved it in my home folder
[09:52] <cafuego> Cryptid: If you want to use GUI tools, i suggest you use Gnome or KDE
[09:52] <phisrow> Amarok, while a KDE app, is an excellent music player. XMMS is an old favourite, as well.
[09:52] <ferronica> cafuego: ??
[09:52] <Bader> beford: hal doesn't find it anymore...
[09:52] <cafuego> Cryptid: They allow you to manage the entire system using the GUI. Flux is far more basic and would require you to edit text files more often than not.
[09:53] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ferronica about ff1.5
[09:53] <cafuego> ferronica: I use ubuntu dapper, which has firefox 1.5 preinstalled.
[09:53] <ferronica> but breezy badger is latest
[09:53] <AnAnt> how can I configure Ubuntu to set my hardware clock to UTC instead of local timezone ? should I manually edit /etc/adjtime ?
[09:54] <ferronica> Madpilot: tell me the process
[09:54] <Madpilot> ferronica, Dapper will be in final release on June 1st
[09:54] <Cryptid> cafuego, dude i dont see a place where u type in the DNS is the DNS suppose to be in a diffrent file or something??? if so which one??
[09:54] <ferronica> Madpilot: i am not gettin what wiki sayin
[09:54] <Madpilot> ferronica, see the pm that ubotu just sent to you
[09:55] <ferronica> no way
[09:55] <cafuego> Cryptid: dns it in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:55] <Madpilot> need sleep - night all
[09:56] <BioBoy> my desktops grow weary
[09:56] <ferronica> ubotu, tell Madpilot will u help him manually or not
[09:56] <Scorpio> Are you in Linux now?
[09:56] <JraNil> ! ppls ! any comment about proxy setting to update apt? i have used /etc/apt/apt.conf and used http://user:pass@ip:port but it dose not work,
[09:56] <ubotu> JraNil: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[09:56] <JraNil> is there any limitations for update apt using a auth. proxy?
[09:57] <ferronica> ubotu, tell Madpilot
[09:57] <ferronica> ubotu, you are mad
[09:57] <ubotu> ferronica: I think you lost me on that one
[09:57] <ferronica> w
[09:57] <AnAnt> how can I configure Ubuntu to set my hardware clock to UTC instead of local timezone ? should I manually edit /etc/adjtime ?
[09:57] <aeolus> hi
[09:58] <aeolus> How do I configure a static IP address on eth0?
[09:58] <ferronica> ubotu, tell me about new firefox1.5
[09:58] <JraNil> ubotu: i want to use apt-get update , behind a proxy !
[09:58] <ubotu> JraNil: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:59] <ferronica> cafuego: will u tell me step wise how to install firefox 1.5, i hav already downloded and saved it in my home folder
[09:59] <Hobbsee> !tell ferronica about firefox1.5
[09:59] <Hobbsee> ferronica: see your private message from ubotu
[10:00] <AnAnt> aeolus: in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:03] <cafuego> ferronica: The wiki page ubotu told you about explains precisely what to do.
[10:03] <ferronica> cafuego: not gettin it
[10:03] <ferronica> cafuego: please u tell me
[10:04] <Crisson> who can help me with my totem? it crashes when I open it from the applications menu.
[10:05] <ferronica> cafuego: what is this>>>>>>install it to/opt/firefox
[10:05] <ferronica> cafuego: sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz
[10:05] <Crisson> I use gdb to start totem, then get this message:Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[10:05] <Crisson> [Switching to Thread -1292768336 (LWP 5611)] 
[10:05] <Crisson> 0xb7d72b0c in free_yuv_planes () from /usr/lib/libxine.so.1
[10:06] <cafuego> exactly that; paste it in a terminal and hit return
[10:06] <ferronica> what is opt?????????????
[10:07] <Hobbsee> ferronica: it's a directory.
[10:07] <efuzzyone> hello
[10:07] <ferronica> sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz
[10:07] <ferronica> what C here
[10:07] <cafuego> 'man tar' will explain.
[10:08] <ferronica> u mean i hav to extract in opt only
[10:08] <Crisson> can any one help me?
[10:08] <efuzzyone> when i am trying to open a certain site, firefox shows me a dialog box and says that you have tried to open a file 'index.cgi' and .......
[10:08] <efuzzyone> how do I make firefox process and open webpages with cgi script?
[10:09] <efuzzyone> is this question relevant to this channel?
[10:10] <efuzzyone> i never faced this problem on windows
[10:10] <Crisson> ?
[10:10] <Crisson> ?
[10:11] <Crisson> ?
[10:11] <cafuego> efuzzyone: The site is broken, firefox is fine.
[10:11] <efuzzyone> but i am able to open that site using firefox on windows
[10:11] <ferronica> i hav saved the Firefox in home folder
[10:11] <ferronica> what comman do i need to extract it
[10:12] <cafuego> ferronica: You've pasted it into the channel twice already
[10:12] <efuzzyone> ferronica,  i guess tar -xzf
[10:12] <cafuego> sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz
[10:13] <ferronica> cafuego: please give me the full command
[10:13] <efuzzyone> cafuego, is there any way I can open that web page
[10:13] <efuzzyone> cafuego, it is https://panel.dreamhost.com/
[10:13] <ohzie> Hey, in compiz, can I use the top and bottom of the cube?
[10:13] <phreak97> how do i test if my joystick is working?
[10:14] <enquest> IS there a way in XGL to limit a window to te edges of your monitor and not display them at once over two monitors
[10:14] <Pupeno> Does anybody know how can I get the firmware for my Agfa Snapscan e20 ? I don't have the installation CD.
[10:14] <phreak97> is there a joystick setup area like in windows?
[10:15] <enquest> Pupeno, go to agfa.com
[10:15] <Pupeno> enquest: and then ?
[10:16] <ferronica> cafuego: i help me help me!
[10:16] <g0dchild> Hi, which app can i use to split tar files?
[10:16] <ferronica> how to extract it from home folder
[10:18] <ferronica> any one help me
[10:19] <malachi> hello
[10:19] <ferronica> how to extract FF 1.5 from home
[10:19] <malachi> is there a voice-to-text application for ubuntu/
[10:19] <cafuego> ferronica: the wiki says how to: run "sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz"
[10:20] <ferronica> cafuego: i pasted it on termianl but got error
[10:21] <ferronica> cannot open: nosuch file or directory
[10:21] <malachi> does gnu/linux have a voice-to-text app
[10:21] <ferronica> cafuego: now what u say tell me????????
[10:22] <asdir> hi everyone. Can someone please tell me how I change the standard file-browser from Nautilus to Rox?
[10:22] <ferronica> cafuego: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5<<<<is this necessary to install
[10:23] <malachi> does gnu/linux have a voice-to-text app
[10:24] <enquest> Pupeno search google
[10:24] <enquest> IS there a way in XGL to limit a window to te edges of your monitor and not display them at once over two monitors
[10:25] <Pupeno> enquest: anything else ? I have done all that already.
[10:25] <ferronica> HELP ME
[10:26] <beford> sn00b sn00p
[10:26] <donvella> ferronica: Its only neccessary if you require that package for an installation
[10:27] <ferronica> donvella: i hav already downloded the FF1.5 now how to install it,
[10:28] <ferronica> donvella: i used the command>>>sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz
[10:28] <ferronica> donvella: bet getting error
[10:28] <ferronica> but*
[10:28] <nrdb> I am using kubuntu, I have installed gnomemetting but I can't get the sound to work.  When doing the sound test it says "Failed to open the device" check permission etc. what permission am I meant to check? I am in the audio group.
[10:28] <donvella> ferronica:  what are you trying to achieve and on what operating system
[10:29] <foldingstock> lock -nvp
[10:29] <donvella> nrdb: make sure you are logged in as root
[10:29] <ohzie> nrdb, in kubuntu the sound server is ARTs is it not?
[10:29] <ferronica> donvella: i am using UBUNTU 5.10, and i wanna install firefox 1.5
[10:29] <fretn> I installed the latest nvidia drivers, and after every reboot when I try to fire up a GL ap, libGL.so.1 segfaults, if I reinstall the drivers, everything works again, but after the next reboot its broken again ...
[10:29] <donvella> ferronica: are you using breezy or dapper?
[10:29] <ferronica> donvella: breezy
[10:30] <donvella> ferronica: why dont you use Synaptic Package Manager to install firefox?
[10:30] <nrdb> ohzie: I thought it was alsa.
[10:30] <ohzie> I've just started playing around with Compiz, and I can't figure out how to use the top and bottom of my new cube. Anyone wanna fill me in? :D
[10:30] <ferronica> donvella: there firefox 1.5 is not available
[10:30] <ohzie> nrdb: Idunno. Used to be ARTs. Maybe I'm wrong.
[10:31] <ferronica> donvella: ubuntu 5.10 hav FF 1.0.8
[10:31] <donvella> ferronica: i wonder what firefox im using then because i used synaptic to install it
[10:31] <soundray> ohzie: as far as I know, you can only display images on the top and bottom of the cube, not additional workspaces.
[10:31] <donvella> ferronica: wouldnt having a running firefox be better then none at all?
[10:31] <ferronica> donvella: what OS r u using
[10:31] <ohzie> donvella, You can install firefox 1.5 to your home directory. Don't overwrite the normal 1.07/1.08 install though, because breezy NEEDS it.
[10:32] <soundray> nrdb: some audio application is probably blocking access to the sound device.
[10:32] <lucychili> Hi folks this is probably a bit OT. wondering if theres someone who speaks italian and also is a bit familiar with open office. We have been doing training on ubuntu breezy live cds doing the bronze ingot course. A nice chap called Gabriele has offerend to translate our notes. He has done the first bit and is asking if its ok.
[10:32] <ohzie> But you can definitely install to your home directory.
[10:32] <donvella> ferronica: maybe its because of dapper but in my synaptic PM i have firefox 1.5 in there
[10:32] <soundray> ferronica: have you seen ubotu's advice on firefox?
[10:32] <donvella> installed.
[10:32] <soundray> !tell ferronica about ff1.5
[10:32] <lucychili> wondering if someone with OO familiarity and IT language could have a look through.
[10:33] <ohzie> soundray, How would I go about displaying pictures on the top and bottom of the cube?
[10:33] <soundray> ohzie: I'm sure I've read it somewhere -- let me dig it up
[10:33] <asdir> hi everyone. Can someone please tell me how I change the standard file-browser from Nautilus to Rox?
[10:33] <donvella> ferronica: why dont you upgrade to dapper, it will give you the latest firefox?
[10:33] <nrdb> donvella: I tried running it under sudo but I still get the same error.
[10:34] <donvella> nrdb: you need to speak to someone who can help you with your x-server i am having the same trouble
[10:34] <soundray> ohzie: it was on the Gentoo wiki: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Compiz (scroll down to the explanation of cube)
[10:34] <ferronica1> donvella: r u there???
[10:35] <donvella> ferronica: why dont you upgrade to dapper, it will give you the latest firefox?
[10:35] <ohzie> soundray, thanks
[10:35] <nrdb> donvella: the sound system under Linux seems very confused.  all these different systems alsa,jack,oss etc.
[10:35] <donvella> why dont you simplify?
[10:36] <ferronica1> donvella: BETA came out
[10:36] <ferronica1> donvella: not the real one
[10:36] <zcat[1] > Ihaven't had to worry about sound with dapper. All the programs just seem to work. I'm not even sure what it's using :)
[10:36] <donvella> ferronical what do you mean? i use dapper, it works great
[10:36] <ferronica1> donvella: whats the problem if u tell me how to install ff1.5
[10:36] <nrdb> zcat[1] : good luck to you.
[10:37] <donvella> i dont know how i just did it through SPM
[10:37] <topyli> donvella: it's still not released
[10:37] <soundray> ferronica1, is there any reason why you are not following the wiki instructions?
[10:37] <donvella> topyli: im using it right now
[10:37] <donvella> topyli: works great.
[10:37] <topyli> donpachi: so am i :)
[10:37] <zcat[1] > same..
[10:37] <topyli> !firefox1.5
[10:37] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:37] <donvella> topyli: so does it matter if its not released?
[10:38] <ferronica1> soundray: i hav used the command to extract it but
[10:38] <zcat[1] > it's beta.. but hell, it's about as stable as breezy already.
[10:38] <ferronica1> soundray: error came, no such file found
[10:38] <topyli> donvella: sure it does. it means it's not supported, and that they might break it yet
[10:38] <topyli> donvella: then you and i can help them fix it. it's not for production
[10:39] <donvella> topyli: its whats next, they wouldnt release a beta without having a charlie close by
[10:39] <ferronica1> soundray: tell me what happend
[10:39] <donvella> ferronical: why dont you follow the wiki information about installing firefox?
[10:39] <topyli> donvella: we know the release date
[10:39] <soundray> ferronica1, you were in the wrong directory. cd to the dir where you downloaded the file to
[10:40] <zcat[1] > three weeks..
[10:40] <soundray> ferronica1, probably 'cd /home/ferronic/Desktop/'; then try the extraction again.
[10:40] <ferronica1> donvella: i hav downloded it to home
[10:40] <topyli> ferronica: see the link ubotu gave you a minute ago
[10:40] <ferronica1> ok
[10:41] <beta_m> hello, the "New updates available" popup won't go away even after i installed the new updates, i've even killed update notifier and update mannager... i really don't want to restart the computer... what do i do
[10:41] <donvella> ferronical: the site topyli gave you will work just fine, just follow instructions to a T you should be fine.
[10:41] <zcat[1] > beta_m: try running updates again, perhaps it missed some?
[10:42] <beta_m> tried that
[10:42] <soundray> beta_m: Remove the notifier. You probably do regular updates anyway, don't you?
[10:42] <soundray> beta_m: System-Preferences-Session
[10:43] <ferronica1> soundray: sudo tar -cd / home /ferronica /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz
[10:43] <ferronica1> soundray: like this
[10:43] <donvella> ferronical: just do what it says on the site
[10:44] <gnomefreak> no spaces between /home/ferronica/opt
[10:44] <beta_m> soundray:  this isn't really helping... i'm having a problem with the popup and you are telling me to remove the notifier... "sudo rm -rf /" will remove it also, but this isn't what i want
[10:44] <soundray> donvella: (s)he is not finding the archive file
[10:44] <donvella> soundray: is he in the correct directory?
[10:44] <soundray> beta_m: just a suggestion. Take it or leave it.
[10:44] <soundray> donvella: trying to find out.
[10:44] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: if you copy and paste the commands for the most part all should work
[10:44] <donvella> why dont you do a locate command
[10:45] <soundray> ferronica1, do you see the downloaded file on your desktop?
[10:45] <beta_m> is there something which can tell me which process to kill to remove the little popup?
[10:45] <soundray> donvella: (s)he'd have to do a updatedb first
[10:45] <soundray> beta_m: look in System-Prefs-Sessions
[10:46] <soundray> beta_m: strange that you should ask about the very suggestion that you dissed a minute ago
[10:47] <zcat[1] > soundray: I think he just wants to kill _this_ popup, not turn off the notifications complettely
[10:47] <soundray> ferronica1, do you see the downloaded file on your desktop?
[10:47] <soundray> zcat[1] : so he should kill the update notifier.
[10:47] <ferronica1> soundray: yes it  is on desktop
[10:47] <zcat[1] > I think he already did
[10:48] <ferronica1> soundray: next step what to do??
[10:48] <zcat[1] > he says he already did, scroll up..
[10:48] <soundray> ferronica1, first, enter 'cd /home/ferronica/Desktop' and hit return
[10:49] <topyli> ferronica1: so in the terminal, do "cd /opt". then do "sudo tar xzvf " <- a space at the end. drag the file from your deskto to the terminal. make sure the terminal is focused, press enter
[10:49] <topyli> it's extracted
[10:49] <ferronica1> error
[10:50] <Isyth> Hey guys, I've got a problem. I enabled the repositories I needed to enable to install gstreamer0.8-mad, but gstreamer0.8-mad still can't install and on top of that my startup freezes just after login (stays on a brown screen, just a mousearrow working, nothing else).
[10:50] <Isyth> (i'm on the livecd now)
[10:50] <soundray> ferronica1, it would help if you said what error you got.
[10:51] <ferronica1>  No such file or directory
[10:51] <soundray> ferronica1, was that on the 'cd'-command?
[10:51] <topyli> ferronica1: which command produces that error?
[10:51] <ferronica1> cd /home/ferronica/Desktop
[10:51] <soundray> ferronica1, what is your username?
[10:52] <topyli> ferronica1: just go to /opt. that's where you want to extract the archive anyway
[10:52] <ferronica1> soundray: name that i use to log in ubuntu
[10:52] <penguin-1> lol
[10:52] <soundray> topyli: do not confuse please.
[10:52] <ferronica1> soundray: ferro i use
[10:52] <soundray> ferronica1: enter 'cd $HOME/desktop'
[10:53] <topyli> soundray: i think he's confused enough. i'm trying to help him install the damn browser :)
[10:53] <gnomefreak> cd Desktop ;)
[10:53] <zcat[1] > error?
[10:53] <zcat[1] > reinstall your shell.. it should never just say 'error' - it must e majorly faulty.
[10:53] <beta_m> well, i think i'm restarting my computer... it's not going away
[10:53] <soundray> beta_m, try 'kill update-notifier'
[10:53] <ferronica1> ok then
[10:54] <soundray> beta_m, try 'killall update-notifier'
[10:54] <soundray> ferronica1: now enter 'sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz'
[10:54] <soundray> ferronica1: this command is straight from the wiki page. If this one works, follow the wiki from that point.
[10:55] <ferronica1> soundray: afternow it works
[10:55] <ferronica1> something runs
[10:55] <soundray> ferronica1: good. Follow the wiki and come back here if you hit any more troubles.
[10:56] <Isyth> Hey guys, I've got a problem. I enabled the repositories I needed to enable to install gstreamer0.8-mad, but gstreamer0.8-mad still can't install and on top of that my startup freezes just after login (stays on a brown screen, just a mousearrow working, nothing else).
[10:56] <soundray> ferronica1: this is a fairly advanced exercise for a newbie.
[10:56] <ferronica1> soundray: it extracted in /opt directory
[10:56] <ferronica1> soundray: ok
[10:56] <soundray> ferronica1: that's good then.
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Isyth: you enabled universe and multiverse (not the universe and multiverse backports) right?
[10:57] <Isyth> yeah, just like the wiki told me to do.
[10:57] <sicmipa> help: what is the file name of the COM1 port? (/dev/???)
[10:57] <soundray> sicmipa: /dev/ttyS0
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Isyth: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[10:57] <sicmipa> soundray: thanks
[10:57] <Isyth> gnomefreak: coming right up.
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:00] <ferronica1> soundray: Change to your home directory, and rename your old profile, leaving it as a backup (using the existing profile may cause problems with Firefox 1.5.0.3):
[11:00] <ferronica1> soundray: what it mean????
[11:00] <Isyth> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13686
[11:01] <Isyth> gnomefreak: should I uncomment those two lines then?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Isyth: thats it? thats not a full list
[11:01] <ferronica1> soundray: what it mean?????????????????|
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Isyth: give me a min ill giv eyou a list to paste inplace of yourse
[11:01] <soundray> ferronica1: if you do the mv command, that'll do it.
[11:02] <soundray> ferronica1: it backs up your firefox user settings.
[11:02] <Isyth> gnomefreak: this is my entire sources.list file.
[11:02] <Isyth> gnomefreak: it's also read-only
[11:02] <soundray> Isyth: I've pasted a change suggestion (sorry gnomefreak)
[11:02] <soundray> Isyth: you have to edit it with admin rights: gksudo gedit
[11:03] <nxg> Anybody here?
[11:03] <ohzie> Can anyone tell me how to make compiz shade windows when I double click on their title bars, instead of maximize them?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> Isyth: let me kn0o when its open as soundray told you too
[11:04] <gnomefreak> s/kn0o/know
[11:04] <gnomefreak> soundray: you pasted the new list?
[11:04] <soundray> gnomefreak: yes
[11:05] <nxg> ohzie, i am no expert but i think it depends on the window manager.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> ok cool brb more coffee
[11:05] <soundray> nxg: compiz is the window manager ;)
[11:05] <Isyth> gnomefreak, soundray, I don't know how to change it though, because I'm running the live CD now I don't have writing permission.
[11:06] <nxg> oh i am really not an expert.
[11:06] <soundray> Isyth: just checking: you've mounted your hard disk-based Ubuntu root while running from a live CD?
[11:06] <Isyth> I'm not sure entirely but I think so.
[11:07] <gnomefreak> Isyth: do you have ubuntu installed at all?
[11:07] <Isyth> gnomefreak: I certainly have, and it was running perfectly well until half an hour ago when I decided to try the mp3-thing.
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ah Isyth can you boot to ubuntu or you have to use live cd
[11:08] <fourat> hello all
[11:08] <Acescripter> hi
[11:08] <ohzie> nxg: gnome-compiz
[11:08] <Isyth> gnomefreak: I can boot ubuntu, but it freezes on a brown screen just after startup, so I have to use the livecd to get beyond there.
[11:08] <ohzie> Or compiz-gnome
[11:08] <ohzie> It's not metacity
[11:08] <ohzie> It's compiz.
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ok Isyth do you get the login screen when booting to ubuntu?
[11:09] <fourat> my ubuntu's X11 wont work with my new laptop's ATI RADEON video card, it raises error on startup and get me to shell console, anybody can help ? please
[11:09] <Isyth> gnomefreak: I do
[11:10] <nxg> ohzie, try compiz's channels or gnome's(gimpnet -gnome). This is official ubuntu support you know.
[11:10] <gnomefreak> Isyth: so between loggin ina nd gnome booting it freezes?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:10] <Isyth> gnomefreak: yes.
[11:10] <soundray> ohzie: try #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-xgl, too
[11:11] <fourat> hello
[11:11] <soundray> !tell fourat about patience
[11:11] <fourat> anyone can help me ?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> Isyth: do you get the splash screen showing up while gnome is booting?
[11:11] <sicmipa> question: for /dev/ttyS0, is the "S" really in capital?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fourat about ati
[11:11] <soundray> sicmipa: yeah, believe me
[11:12] <gnomefreak> fourat: read the pm ubotu sent you on ati
[11:12] <Isyth> gnomefreak: what do you mean by splash screen? After logging in I get a brown screen with a mouse arrow and there it freezes.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> Isyth: this is breezy right?
[11:12] <soundray> sicmipa: I don't go to the trouble of entering capital letters just for the fun of it ;)
[11:12] <Isyth> gnomefreak: yep
[11:12] <sicmipa> soundray: ok I'm convinced :)
[11:13] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:15] <sn00p> i'm trying to install, vmware-workstation in ubuntu, i runt he script, its asking where my kernel headers are at,  normally   its [/usr/src/linux/include]  but in my case, usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/include#
[11:15] <sn00p> but I type it in it dont work whats wrong?
[11:15] <soundray> sn00p: did you omit the leading /
[11:15] <soundray> ?
[11:16] <sn00p> ?
[11:16] <sn00p> yea thats just cutoff
[11:16] <sn00p> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[11:16] <sn00p> its asking that
[11:17] <MasTer_d_dev|L> hey
[11:17] <soundray> sn00p: I take it you've unpacked /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2 ?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> Isyth: was it a clean install and you never got paste the booting? or did this just recently happen?
[11:17] <sn00p> soundray: no I use apt-get
[11:17] <gnomefreak> !headers
[11:17] <ubotu> To install linux headers, open a console and type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:18] <soundray> sn00p: after you apt-get the linux sources, you have to 'cd /usr/src ; tar jxvf linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2'
[11:18] <gnomefreak> ^^^ should be your headerfiles
[11:18] <Isyth> gnomefreak: I installed it only yesterday, but it was working fine this morning. It only went wrong when I tried to enable the universe multiverse repositories and install the gstreamer.
[11:18] <josh0001> Hi guys, just installed a fresh copy of dapper drake flight 6 on my 64bit amd computer, and I've come across some bugs, so I've started to report them, but I am confused at the input form. It states "Path of sendmail" I'm not sure what to put in there
[11:19] <soundray> Isyth: perhaps you've filled up your filesystem?
[11:19] <Isyth> soundray: what does that mean?
[11:20] <soundray> Isyth: lack of hard disk space?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> josh0001: did you install and set up sendmail?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> josh0001: please join #ubuntu+1 with me and i will help you
[11:20] <josh0001> gnomefreak,  Nope, I've just installed it, not setup anything.
[11:20] <josh0001> ok
[11:20] <Isyth> soundray: very unlikely, the disk was empty before installing ubuntu.
[11:21] <sn00p> yay, I got vmware to install
[11:22] <amimusa> hello people, i have some problems with USB devices... they are quite strange. sorry if i dont type all in the same paragraph i will try to explain
[11:23] <amimusa> when i plug a USB Pendrive they are not mounted automatically (as before did) [also sorry for my english] 
[11:23] <soundray> sn00p: how did you get it to work?
[11:23] <sn00p> soundray: yep,
[11:24] <ana86> i have some problems with my keyboard configuration, can anybody help me? The problem with special spanish caracters, the cofiguration is all in spanish. but i have some problems with some libraries
[11:24] <soundray> amimusa: look in System-Preferences-Removable Drives
[11:24] <amimusa> when I try to click to the button i get an error message that tells wrong fstype and so...
[11:24] <amimusa> i will
[11:24] <ana86> thaks
[11:24] <ana86> well, the error say me to paste this
[11:24] <ana86> goya@LinuXera:~$ xprop -root | grep XKB
[11:24] <ana86> _XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) = "xorg", "pc105", "es", "ES", ""
[11:24] <ana86> _XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "xorg", "pc105", "es", "ES", ""
[11:24] <ana86> goya@LinuXera:~$ gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd
[11:24] <ana86>  layouts = [es  ES,es   nodeadkeys] 
[11:24] <ana86>  model =
[11:24] <ana86>  options = [grp grp:alts_toggle] 
[11:24] <ana86>  overrideSettings = true
[11:24] <ana86> goya@LinuXera:~$
[11:25] <ana86> and say tha is a problem with XKB.
[11:25] <soundray> ana86: do not paste errors here. It says so in the topic as well.
[11:25] <ana86> sorry
[11:25] <amimusa> i uncheck all the options
[11:26] <JRGC> Where can I cange the alsa configuration on Ubuntu?
[11:26] <ana86> when i install ubuntu every thing was ok, but i change some cofiguration with the x, and now its dosent work
[11:26] <JRGC> I have a TVcard and it was recognised as a soundcard 0 and my soundcard is soundcard 1 so I can't here anything, except with the tv.
[11:27] <amimusa> here is my fstab file and the error: http://pastebin.com/707009
[11:27] <soundray> JRGC: set the soundcard in System-Preferences-Sound
[11:27] <amimusa> please, any help
[11:28] <JRGC> soundray:  ?????
[11:28] <JRGC> soundray:  I can configure the KDE sound, but not alsa!
[11:29] <ana86> i am new i linux, i dont really now how to help you, sorry
[11:29] <HymnToLife> amimusa> I'm pretty sure USB devices don't need to be in fstab
[11:29] <amimusa> so maybe is this my error ?
[11:29] <JRGC> I want to modify the alsa configuration, not the KDE configuration. KDE just recognizes one soundcard
[11:29] <amimusa> i will try to delete form the fstab then
[11:29] <soundray> JRGC: oh you're on KDE. Ask in #kubuntue
[11:29] <soundray> JRGC: oh you're on KDE. Ask in #kubuntu
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Isyth: i wish i could help more im not sure what you did :(
[11:30] <fourat> where can i download deb packages ?
[11:30] <Bieleke> does somebody in here uses grdesktop with windows terminal server ?
[11:30] <HymnToLife> !tell fourat about synaptic
[11:30] <ana86> does any body now how can i reinstall only the x configuration?
[11:31] <soundray> ana86: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:31] <Isyth> gnomefreak: perhaps you can make me a sources.list file with which I can replace my own? Since I can't edit my own this might be a good way.
[11:31] <aftertaf> !easysource
[11:31] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Isyth: ok hold on ill get one
[11:31] <gnomefreak> aftertaf: i would rather he not use unoffical ones atm due to borked something
[11:31] <HymnToLife> Isyth> here's mine : http://fkraiem.no-ip.org/stuff/sources.list
[11:31] <soundray> Isyth: I've done that for you already (gnomefreak)
[11:31] <amimusa> i've put off the usb device line form fstab, but the problem persist
[11:32] <aftertaf> ok.
[11:32] <HymnToLife> amimusa> try a reboot
[11:32] <amimusa> reboot ???
[11:32] <soundray> amimusa: re-enable automounting in System-Prefs-Removable...
[11:32] <amimusa> we are using GNU/Linux not M$ Windows ...
[11:32] <Isyth> soundray: I know, but my sources.list is read-only which I can't change because I'm in live CD, so I need the actual file rather than a text equivalent.
[11:32] <ana86> mmm i have do it soudtray, but it isnt repair my problem with the caracters
[11:32] <HymnToLife> yeah, maybe the stuff you wrote in fstab is still interfering in some way
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Isyth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 here try this one
[11:32] <ana86> but thanks
[11:33] <HymnToLife> I know pretty much what you are using, thanks
[11:33] <Cultisistan> Can someone help me with this: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-broadband-adsl-pppoe-client-rp-pppoe
[11:33] <Isyth> soundray: or I just don't really understand what's going on, that's a very plausible option.
[11:33] <soundray> ana86, add the Keyboard Indicator applet to the panel and configure it to switch to Spanish.
[11:33] <Cultisistan> I have followed the instructions, what to do to connect to my ISP
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Isyth: the link i gave you has a standard/stable list of repos on it
[11:34] <ana86> i have do it, but i have an error
[11:34] <soundray> Isyth: you have to make sure you mount your hd-based ubuntu root to some mount point, e.g. /mnt
[11:34] <gnomefreak> !broadband
[11:34] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[11:34] <ana86> the same as i paste
[11:34] <amimusa> same, but now ubuntu is thinking all time 'cos it doesn't know what to do (i suppose)
[11:34] <gnomefreak> !broadcom
[11:34] <ubotu> it has been said that broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[11:34] <soundray> Isyth: you can then run 'gksudo gedit /mnt/etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:35] <soundray> Isyth: you should also examine the file /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log (end of the file) for error messages relating to the freeze.
[11:35] <soundray> Isyth: also look at the file .xsession-errors in your home directory.
[11:35] <amimusa> [4300513.125000]  ReiserFS: sdb: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not f ind reiserfs on sdb
[11:35] <amimusa> [4300513.143000]  XFS: bad magic number
[11:35] <amimusa> [4300513.143000]  XFS: SB validate failed
[11:35] <amimusa> [4300513.163000]  XFS: bad magic number
[11:35] <amimusa> [4300513.163000]  XFS: SB validate failed
[11:35] <amimusa> the FS is vfat
[11:36] <amimusa> i will be back in few minutes and i will ask agian
[11:36] <gnomefreak> amimusa: dont paste in here use pastebin
[11:36] <soundray> amimusa: do not paste errors here
[11:36] <amimusa> ok,sorry
[11:36] <amimusa> never again
[11:36] <amimusa> see you later
[11:36] <amimusa> thanks for the support
[11:36] <amimusa> hope to fix it later
[11:36] <amimusa> bye now
[11:36] <ana86> byes
[11:36] <Cultisistan> can someone help me please? :)
[11:37] <ana86> try to say your problem
[11:37] <Isyth> well I'm just going to try some of these things now. Soundray, gnomefreak, thanks bunches. If it doesn't work, you'll see me again.
[11:37] <Isyth> ciao!
[11:37] <JRGC> How can i configure alsa from the console in Ubuntu?
[11:37] <coolfrog> Hey, can anyone tell me how to increase the size of the root partition? I dual-boot with windows and the linux partition is 4.95 gb in size. my hdd has 40 gb capacity.
[11:37] <Cultisistan> I have installed RP-PPPoE because my i need PPPoE to connect to my ISP
[11:38] <ana86> coolfrog i think you can do with ubuntu cd instalation
[11:38] <soundray> coolfrog: you can resize partitions with gparted. You should boot from a live CD to do that.
[11:38] <HIGH-FREQ> coolfrog: i think there's a proggie called ...oooh wait i'm thinkin of ntfs-resize...nm
[11:38] <Cultisistan> now I wonder what to do to connect, I tried to run the program from Applications -> Internet
[11:38] <ana86> you can modify with out remove the things
[11:38] <HIGH-FREQ> soundray: yes but will he lose his data?
[11:38] <Cultisistan> but nothing happened
[11:38] <Cultisistan> or maybe I'm not bright enough to recognize when something happened :)
[11:39] <soundray> HIGH-FREQ, coolfrog, there is a risk of losing data when you resize partitions, so back up your valuable data first.
[11:39] <ana86> xD
[11:39] <HIGH-FREQ> yes..backup ;)  hehe....
[11:39] <coolfrog> Is ubuntu live CD a necessity? I only have the installation CD.
[11:39] <Cultisistan> I have a username and a password from my ISP, what should I do with it to connect?
[11:39] <nikusan> Hi all, I've got a 1GB iPod shuffle here. Banshee tells me its 1GB but nautilus and rhythmbox say its 200MB... any ideas?
[11:40] <HIGH-FREQ> Cultisistan: are u not on a router?
[11:40] <ana86> well, one question, if i save my user folder, them i install the ubuntu and paste my folder, if i excute a program that is in my folder, will it work?
[11:40] <Cultisistan> nope, I'm connecting directly to my ADSL modem
[11:40] <soundray> coolfrog: Ubuntu live CD is best, but if you want a smaller download, try DSL Linux
[11:40] <HymnToLife> or the GParted Live CD
[11:41] <coolfrog> I have dsl. Is there any partitioning tools in it?
[11:41] <soundray> coolfrog: I think it comes with parted (commandline tool, but fairly friendly)
[11:41] <eXistenZ> soundray, Is kde faster than gnome or vice versa?
[11:41] <soundray> coolfrog: maybe it's got qtparted as well (frontend)
[11:42] <weekang> there's the gparted livecd
[11:42] <soundray> eXistenZ: how the ... should I know?
[11:42] <weekang> it's got the latest ntfsprogs
[11:42] <weekang> it can even resize windoze ntfs safely
[11:42] <weekang> just google 4 it
[11:42] <soundray> HymnToLife: that's clever, thanks
[11:42] <weekang> oh i'm blind
[11:42] <weekang> yeah listen 2 the man
[11:42] <soundray> coolfrog: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:43] <coolfrog> ok i will try that.Thanks.
[11:43] <HymnToLife> reminds me I should download it toocrappy dialup...
[11:43] <soundray> eXistenZ: if you want fast, go with xubuntu, or use cli tools
[11:43] <soundray> !tell eXistenZ about cli
[11:44] <weekang> !tell weekang about cli
[11:44] <weekang> lol the bot just tells me off
[11:44] <soundray> weekang: use /msg ubotu cli
[11:45] <gnomefreak> soundray: the aliases for bash are in ~/.bashrc right?
[11:45] <HymnToLife> !tell HymnToLife about cli
[11:45] <soundray> gnomefreak: yes, they usually are.
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[11:48] <visik7> hi
[11:48] <luke> do u think its a security risk if I create a SETUID shell that just runs "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" exectuable by everyone?
[11:49] <visik7> how can I use -j ROUTE in iptables ? since there is no ipt_ROUTE.so in /lib/iptables nor a ipt_ROUTE module ?
[11:49] <soundray> luke: consider auto-apt instead
[11:50] <luke> "No manual entry for auto-apt"
[11:50] <luke> neither does it exist?
[11:51] <pitti> luke: apt-get update is already in cron.daily
[11:51] <soundray> !info auto-apt
[11:51] <ubotu> auto-apt: (package search by file and on-demand package installation tool), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.3.20 (breezy), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[11:51] <luke> pitti, i have disabled cron though
[11:51] <pitti> luke: you should rather use sudo for this stuff; first, it's easier to set up, and second, it's harder to get wrong :)
[11:53] <luke> how do I print environmental variables?
[11:53] <luke> like PATH or something
[11:53] <zcat[1] > luke: echo $PATH
[11:53] <soundray> luke, or run env
[11:53] <JRGC> Please tell me where can I define soundcard 0 as soundcard 1 and viceversa.
[11:53] <luke> ty
[11:54] <JRGC> I found the /proc/asound/cards has the number, but I can't modify it.
[11:54] <JRGC> There must be a way on ubuntu to configure manually the sound cards, isn't it?
[11:54] <soundray> JRGC: you are using the wrong approach. Instead, you should configure your applications to use card 1 by default.
[11:55] <soundray> JRGC: leave the low-level decisions to Ubuntu (like how to number cards).
[11:56] <JRGC> soundray:  And how can I configure supertux and xine to use soundcard 1?
[11:56] <soundray> JRGC: look in the menus, read the docs, ask the channel
[11:57] <luke> "chmod 4711 update.sh" doesnt seem to make it Set UID according to Gnome - am I doing something wrong?
[11:58] <soundray> luke: you cannot setuid shell scripts.
[11:58] <JRGC> soundray:  The problem is that soundcard-0 is not even a soundcard, is a TV card
[11:58] <luke> really?
[11:59] <JRGC> soundray:  ALSA should not recognize the TVcard as soundcard
[11:59] <soundray> JRGC: it is a soundcard in the sense that it has a sound chipset in it.
[11:59] <luke> soundray, how can I get it to work then?
[11:59] <soundray> JRGC: yes it should, otherwise you wouldn't be hearing your TV sound.
[11:59] <m_0_r_0_n> Do you know a program that is able to log all processes if the cpu load is greater thant e.g. 80%?
[11:59] <soundray> luke: first, tell me why you don't want to listen to my advice (auto-apt)
[12:00] <luke> soundray, im still not exactly sure what auto-apt does, and i want to learn how to use the cli a little better
[12:00] <JRGC> soundray:  Wrong, Alsa never recognised my TVcard as soundcard, i have the output of the TVcard connected to the input of my soundcard.
[12:00] <soundray> luke: enter apt-cache show auto-apt
[12:00] <sjoerd> JRGC: how that exaclty works differs
[12:01] <soundray> JRGC: look, do you want help, or do you want to be a smart alec?
[12:02] <sjoerd> JRGC: some have an external connection (like yours), some have both, some have no external link possibility (although they are rare)
[12:02] <JRGC> soundray:  The problem is that I had other linux distros and they all worked fine.
[12:02] <luke> soundray, ah thanks soundray. but if I did want to do it using a shell script, would it be possible to use SETUIDs for future reference?
[12:02] <soundray> JRGC: alsa sees the sound chip on your TV card as its card 0
[12:02] <JRGC> And I'm very happy with Ubuntu, except for this little issue
[12:02] <JRGC> soundray:  Yes
[12:02] <zcat[1] > configure esd to use /dev/dsp1, almost everything else will use esd
[12:03] <JRGC> zcat[1] :  How? Where?
[12:03] <soundray> JRGC: the fact that you are channeling the analog output of card 0 to card 1 doesn't matter at the low level.
[12:03] <soundray> zcat[1] : JRGC is on KDE
[12:03] <JRGC> soundray:  That's not the problem, the problem is that all my other applications try to use the tvcard as sound card and it doesn't work
[12:04] <sjoerd> JRGC: either you blacklist the soundcard audio module, or you ensure that your normal soundcard comes first or you switch your alsa config to use card 1 as the default card
[12:04] <soundray> JRGC: most of your sensible applications will use artsd or esd, so it's just a matter of configuring those.
[12:04] <JRGC> And I don't want to configure each and every application to use soundcard 1, because some don't even let you do this
[12:06] <soundray> JRGC: if you still want to force it, you could swap the TV and sound cards in their slots.
[12:06] <tombs> hi all
[12:06] <jimcooncat> I need help with HAL, fails to load. Where do I find a troubleshooting guide? I see nothing I can understand in syslog
[12:06] <ana86> well, i gona go
[12:06] <ana86> byes
[12:07] <zcat[1] > JRGC: force the correct soundcard module to load first by putting it in /etc/modules .. worked for me.
[12:15] <chri[s] > how can i tell what's wrong with a device
[12:15] <chri[s] > or why it already says it mounted when it is not
[12:15] <m6s> I try to use evolution
[12:16] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : That depends mostly on the device. type mount w/o any parameters to see a list of mounted devices.
[12:16] <chri[s] > its not
[12:17] <chri[s] > its a harddrive but i have a as an LVM partition and i cant seem to get it to mount
[12:17] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : which error do you get when you attempt to mount it_
[12:17] <BlueEagle> ?
[12:17] <chri[s] > hris@ubuntu-polarbear:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/ubuntu-old/
[12:17] <chri[s] > Password:
[12:17] <chri[s] > mount: /dev/hdb5 already mounted or /mnt/ubuntu-old/ busy
[12:17] <m6s> I have evolution, and I am trying to configure POP3 access to my mails, I choose POP, (I don't see POP3 choice) and the pass doesn't go to the handler....
[12:17] <chri[s] > but
[12:17] <m6s> any idea please?
[12:18] <chri[s] > /dev/hdd1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:18] <chri[s] > proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[12:18] <chri[s] > sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[12:18] <chri[s] > devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[12:18] <chri[s] > tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[12:18] <chri[s] > usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[12:18] <chri[s] > tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[12:18] <chri[s] > tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[12:18] <chri[s] > its not listed on mount
[12:18] <chri[s] > and
[12:18] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell chri[s]  about pastebin
[12:18] <soundray> chri[s] : read the topic. No pasting
[12:18] <chri[s] > k k
[12:18] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : which directory are you currently in_
[12:18] <BlueEagle> ??
[12:18] <chri[s] > /home/chris
[12:19] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : I see. Try this: sudo fdisk -l|grep hdb5
[12:20] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : hmm.. is it a raid partition you say?
[12:20] <chri[s] > /dev/hdb5              32       36483   292800658+  8e  Linux LVM
[12:20] <chri[s] > no
[12:20] <BlueEagle> oh, lvm
[12:20] <BlueEagle> !lvm
[12:20] <ubotu> hmm... lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[12:21] <soundray> chri[s] : I don't know about lvm, but if you have an unmountable device like that, you sometimes have to reboot to get it unstuck.
[12:23] <Drac|Win> libglib2.0-0 is installed on my system, but this configure script complains that there is no "glib-2.0" package on my system. It's a very new configure script, and should be up to date. What gives?
[12:24] <soundray> Drac|Win: install libglib2.0-dev
[12:24] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : Well I would expect an error saying that you need to specify the partition type, however if the PV is part of a VG and that VG is somehow active (should be listed with sudo fdisk -l) then that might explain the fact that the partition is busy
[12:25] <Drac|Win> soundray: Yeah. Figured that out, but thanks. :)
[12:26] <soundray> Drac|Win: you still get that error?
[12:26] <siimo> can nautilus burn DVD isos?
[12:26] <chri[s] > BlueEagle, hrm so how do i deactivative it with out deactivating my current partition
[12:26] <warlock-> If my root pw got hacked, how can i access the server? (Im right next to it)
[12:27] <siimo> warlock-, by using a live CD and chroot
[12:27] <warlock-> siimo
[12:27] <BlueEagle> warlock-: boot it with a live cd
[12:27] <warlock-> I accessed it with another account
[12:27] <warlock-> is therea way to change root pw?
[12:27] <BlueEagle> warlock-: no
[12:27] <warlock-> if i boot with live cd, then what?
[12:27] <sambagirl> http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/windows_no.htm
[12:27] <BlueEagle> warlock-: You shouldn't have set a root pw in the first place imo.
[12:27] <warlock-> I did, I only used root tbh
[12:28] <hurax> if you got hacked: backup user data and reinstall
[12:28] <BlueEagle> warlock-: Well, there you go...
[12:28] <hurax> you can't trust anything on it anymore
[12:28] <togster> greetings #ubuntu
[12:28] <warlock-> well...
[12:28] <donvella> hurax: how do you get hacked? and why?
[12:28] <BlueEagle> warlock-: The most secure thing to do is to wipe all program files and make a clean install retaining only data files.
[12:29] <BlueEagle> warlock-: (that would be the /home partition)
[12:29] <hurax> i was once, by an exploit in the ssh daemon
[12:29] <warlock-> well
[12:29] <warlock-> how do i get access with chroot ?
[12:29] <donvella> why would someone want to hack you though, question at hand.
[12:29] <warlock-> chroot *
[12:29] <BlueEagle> warlock-: man chroot
[12:29] <hurax> my boss told me just to patch it and not to reinstall
[12:30] <warlock-> um wait?
[12:30] <donvella> hurax: network security?
[12:30] <soundray> donvella: criminals pay money for hacked machines, for sending phishing mails and such.
[12:30] <hurax> turned out that there was some trojan left and the hacker went back in again
[12:30] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : By reading the documentation I assume. :)
[12:30] <donvella> soundray: explain yourself.
[12:30] <warlock-> BlueEagle, I dont have access to any user account on the other server...how to access chroot then?
[12:30] <soundray> donvella: quote: "why would someone want to hack you"
[12:30] <BlueEagle> warlock-: chroot is on the livecd. When you chroot in you've automagically have got root access.
[12:31] <warlock-> Oh, thanks mate
[12:31] <soundray> donvella: because access to a cracked machine can be sold on the black market.
[12:31] <hurax> donvella: what was your question?
[12:31] <warlock-> Is the LIVE cd downloadable ?
[12:31] <BlueEagle> warlock-: yes
[12:31] <donvella> soundray: can you go into detail why someone would pay for a hacked machine; ei. purposes.
[12:31] <warlock-> I will have to reboot to run the livecd, correclty?
[12:31] <BlueEagle> warlock-: you can use any live cd you prefer. I for one prefer the gentoo minimal for recovery work.
[12:31] <BlueEagle> warlock-: but knoppix also works well.
[12:32] <soundray> donvella: no. All the detail was in my first response.
[12:32] <hurax> yes, you boot from the cd
[12:32] <warlock-> k
[12:32] <F0LL0W3R> Anyone here knows how to install firefox Active X plugins ?
[12:32] <donvella> soundray: im just interested in the knowledge your provided. im wondering why someone would pay for a cracked machine.
[12:32] <soundray> donvella: if you don't believe this, you're living in a hole.
[12:32] <BlueEagle> !activex
[12:32] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlueEagle
[12:32] <hurax> donvella: they pay for sending spam
[12:32] <donvella> hurax: please explain
[12:32] <hurax> and spam is a lucrative business
[12:33] <donvella> hurax: so in example: someone would log into a stolen computer, use their email program to send spam to create money for whom?
[12:33] <warlock-> THE BUSINESS
[12:33] <hurax> those who sell the stuff
[12:33] <BlueEagle> donvella: When you've got access to a cracked server you can install a mail relay or a mail spammer for that matter and send out spam. Some companies actually pay people to send out marketing emails (unsolicited at that too)
[12:33] <F0LL0W3R> !Actice X
[12:33] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, F0LL0W3R
[12:33] <hurax> viagra, penis enlargers and whatever crap there is
[12:33] <F0LL0W3R> !Active X
[12:33] <ubotu> F0LL0W3R: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:34] <soundray> !offtopic
[12:34] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:34] <donvella> BlueEagle: so in other words, companies pay people to do things illegally? such as um Fat Buster 2006?
[12:34] <donvella> They would actually pay someone to load mailboxes with spam?
[12:34] <BlueEagle> donvella: correct.
[12:34] <donvella> BlueEagle: interesting.
[12:35] <togster> If they didn't, there wouldn't be such a spam problem
[12:35] <donvella> BlueEagle: now this business, how hard is this to get into? who would you need to speak to to arrange something along these lines?
[12:35] <soundray> !offtopic
[12:35] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:36] <josh0001> can someone help me with this batch of updates
[12:36] <JRGC> soundray:  I just swaped the cards and now it's working perfectly, thanks a lot!!
[12:36] <BlueEagle> donvella: ...as a nice little anectdote to that. I've seen spam mails promoting services to send spam mails. You don't. It's annoying and you don't want to make money that way. Well unless you're from america. They do anything for money. :p
[12:36] <soundray> JRGC: see, trust your elders
[12:37] <soundray> JRGC: (scnr)
[12:37] <donvella> BlueEagle: well cashflow is better then income, so depends on how you look at it.
[12:38] <donvella> BlueEagle: however the idea of making money off something so simple as to using a computer seems like such a wise idea.
[12:38] <Svennig> When I hold shift and press backspace X reboots - I need to be able to stop this for my sanity's sake, can anyone help?
[12:38] <pitti> Svennig: you mean control+Alt+Backspace?
[12:38] <soundray> Svennig: I had that problem. Had to switch from Xgl back to Xorg.
[12:38] <soundray> Svennig: are you on Xgl?
[12:38] <Svennig> soundray hmmm - I'm using XGL all right. Is there no way to change the keybindings?
[12:39] <soundray> Svennig: I've spent the better part of yesterday afternoon on it. DontZap option doesn't help, Gnome keybindings won't help.
[12:39] <BlueEagle> svennig: look for a configuration file in /etc/X*
[12:39] <Svennig> soundray, BlueEagle thanks for the advice! :D
[12:39] <soundray> Svennig: very annoying "feature"
[12:40] <hurax> donvella: becoming a criminal to make money doesn't seem a wise idea to me
[12:40] <BlueEagle> svennig: ..or as Linus would have put it: mis-feature
[12:40] <soundray> Svennig: maybe someone in #ubuntu-xgl knows more.
[12:40] <Svennig> I might give it a try in there, thanks!
[12:41] <ubuntu_> hiiiiiiiiiii
[12:42] <donvella> hurax: kudos to that :P Depends on what side of the line your standing on
[12:42] <ubuntu_> hiiiiiii fuker
[12:43] <donvella> ubuntu_ sup
[12:43] <BlueEagle> donvella: We're on the recieving line, and guess what. We don't like spam or spammers.
[12:43] <ubuntu_> jkhkhkhkj
[12:43] <donvella> BlueEagle: lol fair nuf, you made your point.
[12:43] <soundray> ubuntu_, your test worked.
[12:44] <ubuntu_> yes
[12:45] <chri[s] > [4631065.392000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[12:45] <chri[s] > that's the error dmesg spits out at me when i try to mount it
[12:46] <ubuntu_> pls any pepole help me lerning to linux
[12:46] <iNiku> chri[s] : that happens when you press shift-<cursor key>
[12:46] <iNiku> chri[s] : at least I had that with breezy. it has nothing to do with mounting anything
[12:48] <ubuntu_> mika ..... help me
[12:48] <chri[s] > well that's the error i get when i type 'mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/stuff
[12:49] <chri[s] > with | dmesg
[12:49] <Mika_i> ?
[12:49] <ubuntu_> hey help me
[12:49] <soundray> chri[s] : this error has nothing to do with mounting
[12:49] <soundray> !helpme
[12:49] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[12:49] <iNiku> chri[s] : it's some keypress that's doing it, it's just some keyboard driver weirdness
[12:49] <iNiku> definitely nothing to do with mounting
[12:50] <ubuntu_> i want education for ubuntu
[12:50] <soundray> ubuntu_: install it, play with it, work with it.
[12:50] <sahan> hellow
[12:50] <soundray> ubuntu_: come back here if you have specific problems/questions.
[12:52] <sahan> i cant play avi,mpg video files in ubuntu..can any body help me?
[12:53] <soundray> !tell sahan about restricted
[12:53] <soundray> sahan: read the message that ubotu sent you
[12:53] <BSCH> who use the cjk-latex?
[12:53] <dorel_> join #mythtv-users
[12:53] <dorel_> eh, my bad
[12:53] <sahan> ok..soundray.. ill
[12:53] <sahan> thanks
[12:54] <sahan> but can any one tell me why realplayer is not working?
[12:55] <soundray> sahan: read the page that ubotu pointed you to, and follow the advice there. Also, consider easyubuntu
[12:55] <soundray> !tell sahan about easyubuntu
[12:56] <pvd2006> Is it possible to write to NTFS partitions in Ubuntu yet?
[12:56] <sahan> ok..fine thanx
[12:56] <soundray> pvd2006: only if you recompile the ntfs kernel module (not recommended)
[12:57] <pvd2006> so when will it be possible without having to do that
[12:57] <soundray> pvd2006: NTFS is a crufty, kludgy, closed-source mess. Chances are it'll never be decently supported.
[12:57] <HymnToLife> who cares about NTFS anyway ?
[12:57] <waldo> anyone here running dapper-drake beta?
[12:57] <HymnToLife> !dapper
[12:57] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:57] <waldo> I'm getting a weird error w/gnome-nettools
[12:58] <soundray> HymnToLife: Windows users (who needs them) ;)
[12:58] <waldo> I mean gnome-nettool.  Something about glibc and it aborts...
[12:58] <pvd2006> I still run windows, Im not running fat or fat32 with windows for sure.
[12:58] <pvd2006> windows is still useful for some things
[12:58] <pvd2006> linux is a lot more useful though
[12:58] <HymnToLife> soundray> FAT is OK with windows and Linux
[12:58] <HymnToLife> why bother with NTFS ?
[12:58] <soundray> pvd2006: best to have a small fat32 data partition for exchanging data.
[12:59] <soundray> pvd2006: or use a USB stick.
[12:59] <HymnToLife> soundray> all ext3 for me to exchange data since there are ext3 drvires for windows that wors pretty well
[01:00] <pvd2006> HymnTolife, what is the driver called
[01:00] <soundray> HymnToLife: now you've admitted to using Windows!
[01:00] <soundray> :)
[01:00] <HymnToLife> soundray> I do, I can't find any decent DVD encoding tool for Linux
[01:00] <MistaED_0> yeah the ext2 driver rocks compared to using fat32
[01:00] <HymnToLife> pvd2006> google for Ext2Fsd
[01:01] <MistaED_0> www.fs-driver.org is better than ext2fsd i think
[01:01] <pvd2006> I have EXT2fsd I thought it was just for being able to use linux paritions in windows though
[01:01] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: acidrip?
[01:01] <HymnToLife> that's what I said..
[01:01] <soundray> pvd2006: it is. This is all based on the suggestion of having an extra partition for shared data between the OS's
[01:01] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: have you tried acidrip?
[01:01] <frying_fish> its a front end to mencoder
[01:02] <frying_fish> and produces quite nice results I found
[01:02] <chombee> Hello - I installed Breezy for a technophobe friend, and I'm wondering what the best way to setup DVD support is. I know totem-xine and xine-ui will play DVDs. totem-xine is a better ui, but might conflict with totem-gstreamer when she downloads updates. Any thoughts?
[01:02] <MistaED_0> does ext2fsd allow mounting of drives to letters so it's seamless to windows/programs?
[01:02] <frying_fish> or do you mean dvd encoding as in authoring dvd's
[01:02] <HymnToLife> yes, and It's nor anywhere as good as Windows tools like VirtualDub
[01:02] <frying_fish> chombee: vlc
[01:02] <frying_fish> use vlc,
[01:02] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: if you want virtual dub then get avidemux
[01:02] <frying_fish> avidemux == virtualdub
[01:02] <chombee> frying_fish - why? Is it significantly better than xine or totem-xine?
[01:02] <frying_fish> chombee: yes.
[01:03] <HymnToLife> frying_fish> nope, avidemux is good but it still can't do as much stuff as vdub does
[01:03] <chombee> frying_fish - never heard this, can you expand?
[01:03] <frying_fish> a) looks better, b) doesn't require lots of codecs to play many media types.
[01:03] <pvd2006> I use intervideo for dvd, it has the best qaulity for encoding to other formats a lot better than like dvd shrink and such.
[01:03] <soundray> !info vlc
[01:03] <HymnToLife>  aand there is no AviSynth for linux either
[01:03] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[01:03] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: avidemux is virtual dub, just with a different front end on it.
[01:03] <frying_fish> chombee: http://www.videolan.org/vlc
[01:03] <chombee> I know what VLC is, but never thought to use it instead of xine-ui
[01:03] <frying_fish> although the version in breezy itself is old
[01:04] <frying_fish> so it may be worth looking at trying to get the latest one from there site.
[01:04] <chombee> frying_fish - does it play more reliably than xine? I've noticed xine is a little dodgy sometimes, but mostly good
[01:04] <frying_fish> chombee: it is much better, they write all their own codecs, and you don't ahve to mess with libraries, and it looks a lot better.
[01:04] <frying_fish> I don't use anything but vlc for any form of video
[01:04] <chombee> frying_fish - I don't want to add any compiled-from-source stuff to her system, she's gonna have to manage it herself, after all
[01:04] <frying_fish> although admittedly it doesn't have wmv9 support yet.
[01:04] <pvd2006> VLC is pretty good, I still like mplayer better though.
[01:04] <HymnToLife> though the Breezy build is crappy indeed
[01:04] <frying_fish> chombee: its not compiled from source
[01:05] <frying_fish> there are ubuntu packs now.
[01:05] <pvd2006> i use the command line version of mplayer though not the gui
[01:05] <soundray> chombee: look at ubotu's line ^^
[01:05] <chombee> frying_fish - Hmm... well, I will look into this. I'm interested so I'm gonna try and get wider comments from the mailing list. But I'll definitely check it out
[01:05] <frying_fish> chombee: http://nightlies.videolan.org/
[01:06] <frying_fish> although, the dapper package is more upto date
[01:06] <chombee> soundray - hwy, I know what vlc is, I'm just interested in how it actually performs compared to xine
[01:06] <frying_fish> since dapper is officially coming out soon, so they have kind of stopped making breezy stuff.
[01:06] <HymnToLife> that's god cause the Breezy one sucks big time
[01:06] <HymnToLife> good*
[01:06] <frying_fish> yeah, its about 3 versions old I saw.
[01:06] <frying_fish> there is 0.8.5svn version for breezy on their site
[01:06] <frying_fish> but I use dapper
[01:06] <frying_fish> and that has 0.8.5final now.
[01:07] <HymnToLife> the thing that disturbs me most on it is that it doesn't have Matroska support
[01:07] <soundray> chombee: now I see what you mean. I responded because you said you didn't want to do installs from source.
[01:07] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: you mean .h264?
[01:07] <frying_fish> if so, thats in the latest version
[01:07] <pvd2006> mplayer has MKV support
[01:07] <HymnToLife> how do you want people to use free formats and get rid of the crappy AVI if they can't play them...
[01:07] <frying_fish> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
[01:07] <orbin> could someone walk me through how to setup a cable 'net connection?  i want to connect this laptop.  we have one cable modem with two ports: usb and ethernet.  the family pc is hooked up via usb, which leaves ethernet for this laptop.  i'm new to broadband, so have no idea what i'm doing basically.
[01:08] <HymnToLife> frying_fish> yeah but for some reson the Breezy build doesn't support MKVs
[01:08] <chombee> well, thanks for the advice all, I'll check it out
[01:08] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: that would be because its about 3 versions out of date
[01:08] <frying_fish> go to the nightlies page
[01:08] <frying_fish> and add the breezy repository
[01:08] <frying_fish> and get the latest version from there
[01:08] <HymnToLife> frying_fish> I compile mine from ource so no problem :)
[01:08] <frying_fish> oh ok.
[01:08] <HymnToLife> but I'm pretty sure VLC alread had it back then
[01:08] <frying_fish> possibly.
[01:08] <pvd2006> Yeah thats the only downside of ubuntu I think, the packages arent updated to the newest ones.
[01:09] <HymnToLife> just some misconfiguration of the build no one bothered to fix, shame...
[01:09] <pvd2006> not all of them anyways
[01:09] <frying_fish> pvd2006: the ones in dapper are
[01:09] <josh0001> I'm having difficulties. I've recently setup ubuntu (newest one) But i am unable to login as root. Am i doing something wrong?.. I have setup the password correctly, should i type a different username in the username section? thanks
[01:09] <pvd2006> but dapper isnt stable yet is it
[01:09] <pvd2006> ?
[01:09] <frying_fish> not technically no
[01:09] <Tidus> !tell josh0001 about root
[01:09] <frying_fish> but with less than 1 month to release date it is fairly close
[01:09] <soundray> pvd2006: it's exceedingly stable, considering it's still beta
[01:09] <frying_fish> and has been stable on my 2 systems for the past 2 months
[01:09] <josh0001> !tell
[01:09] <josh0001> ok
[01:10] <HymnToLife> I'v gotta try Dapper as soon as I get my hands on a new laptop
[01:10] <HymnToLife> atm I'm stick with Windows
[01:10] <kingspawn> orbin: does your router give out dhcp ips?
[01:10] <frying_fish> infact, on my laptop its the only OS, and on desktop, I only booted into windows once this morning in the last 3 weeks, and that was just to print (dammn crappy canon printer not having drivers)
[01:10] <HymnToLife> stuck*
[01:10] <frying_fish> kingspawn: he doesnt have a router
[01:10] <frying_fish> he just has a modem by the looks of it
[01:10] <orbin> kingspawn: what frying_fish said :)
[01:10] <kingspawn> hm, oh
[01:10] <frying_fish> and I'm not sure that with a modem you can hook up two devices at once.
[01:10] <pvd2006> hmmm
[01:11] <Tidus> frying_fish: that's why i have an HP printer... file server runs linux, and my clients can run whatever OS they like and still be able to print
[01:11] <frying_fish> orbin: a router would be much simpler to have, one that can connect to the cable modem.
[01:11] <HymnToLife> frying_fish> most Ethernet modems can act as routrs as well
[01:11] <frying_fish> Tidus: yeah, I got given this printer from parents about 6 months ago
[01:11] <kingspawn> orbin: well, if it gives out dhcp, you can _try_ just hooking up your ethernet cable and acquiring an ip
[01:11] <orbin> frying_fish: this one can...it specifically says so.
[01:11] <frying_fish> orbin: oh ok then.
[01:11] <kingspawn> orbin: but as frying_fish is saying, modems might not be too happy to accomodate more than one connection like that
[01:11] <orbin> kingspawn: i don't know what dhcp is :P
[01:11] <Tidus> frying_fish: lol... parents gave me a HP DJ842C
[01:11] <frying_fish> orbin: tried googling the model.
[01:12] <kingspawn> orbin: it just hooks you automatically up to the net (simply put)
[01:12] <frying_fish> Tidus: nice, parents have always had canons and they gave me their old one, its a scanner/ printer / multicard reader combo
[01:12] <HymnToLife> HP rock, their hardware is ridiculously esy to use on Linux
[01:12] <frying_fish> but I can't find a driver for it under linux.
[01:12] <kingspawn> orbin: my advice: hoop up, reboot, see if you're connected.
[01:12] <HymnToLife> it's no fun anymore :(
[01:12] <xbow> i've installed ubuntu 6.04 dapper-flight3 and made upgrade. on the next reboot i've got error "Circular dependancy" and process init was killed. what can i do?
[01:12] <frying_fish> I will probably get a HP next
[01:12] <josh0001> Does anyone know how i can change the root password?.. I set it, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.
[01:12] <soundray> HymnToLife: Aldi are selling a nice rebranded MSI laptop here. Should be coming up in your country as well, soon.
[01:12] <frying_fish> xbow: sudo apt-get install -f
[01:12] <kingspawn> josh0001: sudo passwd root
[01:12] <frying_fish> that should sort it out.
[01:13] <HymnToLife> soundray> nice, I ike MSI too, I'm gonna look at it
[01:13] <xbow> frying_fish: i can't boot the system
[01:13] <HymnToLife> gotta buy a new lappy by next month or so
[01:13] <frying_fish> xbow: boot recovery mode
[01:13] <josh0001> kingspawn,  Thanks, that was a bit too easy, How come it was that easy?
[01:13] <xbow> frying_fish: don't work
[01:13] <orbin> kingspawn: don't you have to do something in networking?  and how exactly do i disconnect if i wish to?
[01:14] <frying_fish> xbow: so it won't even boot single mode
[01:14] <frying_fish> interesting, I'm guessing it didn't finish its upgrade
[01:14] <kingspawn> josh0001: setting a password isnt supposed to be hard :)
[01:14] <xbow> frying_fish: ok, i'll try single mode
[01:14] <kingspawn> orbin: what do you mean, disconnect? pull the cable.. =)
[01:14] <josh0001> Does anyone know how I can login as the administrator (root) from the login?.. I just tried it and it said "the system administrator is not allowed to login from this screen"
[01:15] <frying_fish> josh0001: because its not smart to login that way
[01:15] <kingspawn> josh0001: you tried it after setting passwd root?
[01:15] <Remy> !tell josh0001 about sudp
[01:15] <Remy> !tell josh0001 about sudo
[01:15] <josh0001> kingspawn,  yes
[01:15] <bbrazil> josh0001: crtl-alt-f1 try logging in there
[01:15] <NeoCicak> gday...
[01:15] <frying_fish> best way is to login as regular user, then either sudo to do commands, or if sudo is turned off, then su root
[01:15] <Tidus> josh0001: GDM won't let root login
[01:15] <soundray> josh0001: if you are sure that you want that, you have to allow it via System-Administration-Login Window
[01:15] <kingspawn> oh, he tried logging in as root in gdm
[01:15] <kingspawn> I see, I see
[01:15] <frying_fish> josh0001: root login at gdm isn't smart.
[01:16] <NeoCicak> i tried to upgrade to dapper drake according to wiki (using gksudo "update-manager -d")... but it failed on me..... i was wondering if there are any other way (like modifying my sources.list) to upgrade to dapper
[01:16] <josh0001> soundray,  thanks, i just found out that lol, it's given me a loverly black screen with the prompt stuff
[01:16] <soundray> josh0001: enter gnome-session
[01:16] <frying_fish> NeoCicak: simplest is probably to install from cd's
[01:16] <avalost> anyone experiencing problems when doing upgrades with flashplayer-nonfree hanging up the update process?
[01:16] <avalost> seems everytime I do an upgrade the thing stalls
[01:17] <josh0001> How do i logout from this terminal and get back to the loverly GUI login screen?
[01:17] <frying_fish> type exit to logout
[01:17] <soundray> josh0001: Alt-F7
[01:17] <frying_fish> and ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to gui
[01:17] <NeoCicak> frying_fish: hmmm.. thats a solution.. but I just want to know what entries i need in my sources.list to upgrade to daper
[01:17] <josh0001> thanks, you're all very helpful
[01:17] <frying_fish> NeoCicak: swap all instances of breezy to dapper
[01:17] <josh0001> I only went into administrator mode (root) because it said i do not have access to my windows particion
[01:18] <soundray> avalost, it probably can't download the archive.
[01:18] <frying_fish> josh0001: you don't need to do that
[01:18] <lodravah> hello people..
[01:18] <lodravah> I
[01:18] <frying_fish> you can do chown -R user:user /path/to/windows
[01:18] <frying_fish> or edit /etc/fstab
[01:18] <josh0001> what's chown?
[01:18] <HymnToLife> !tell josh about ntfs
[01:18] <frying_fish> to have a different umask
[01:18] <orbin> kingspawn: ok, i plugged in.  i can't ping google though.
[01:18] <NeoCicak> ok.... thanks....
[01:18] <kingspawn> orbin: did you reboot?
[01:18] <frying_fish> josh0001: its "CHangeOWNer"
[01:18] <lodravah> I'm having some trouble installing Automatix from easylinux-wiki
[01:18] <avalost> soundray: yes indeed.. I have tried using the flashplayer-update cmd and that gives and error
[01:19] <HymnToLife> josh0001> read this please before you do something stupid that will break your system
[01:19] <pvd2006> josh001, there is a little script called diskmounter or diskmount that will automatically find window paritions for you and make them ready to use
[01:19] <orbin> kingspawn: yes
[01:19] <soundray> avalost: proxy error?
[01:19] <kingspawn> orbin; what does "ifconfig" tell you?
[01:19] <avalost> stating something about networking may have changed?
[01:19] <josh0001> HymnToLife,  Don't worry, it's all safe. I'm using a different computer, and the windows partcicion only has some data files on it.
[01:19] <avalost> soundray: can't recall off  the top of my head..
[01:19] <avalost> sec:
[01:19] <orbin> kingspawn: what line specifically? i can't pastebin.  i'm on the xp bocx atm
[01:19] <Tidus> personally, i always learn more by breaking it.
[01:20] <soundray> avalost: make sure you don't have a proxy set for wget connections. Check with 'env | grep -i proxy' and look in /etc/wgetrc
[01:20] <kingspawn> orbin: the ones talking about an eth0 or eth1
[01:20] <frying_fish> josh0001: fat32 or ntfs?
[01:21] <orbin> kingspawn: hang on.  i'll have to type it by hand in pastebin then :-/
[01:21] <pvd2006> josh0001, type in whereis diskmounter to see if you have it
[01:21] <pawan> hi
[01:21] <kingspawn> orbin: well, did you get an ip?
[01:21] <kingspawn> orbin: thats the most important thing, really
[01:22] <Tartangear> test
[01:22] <josh0001> frying_fish,  it's ntfs.
[01:22] <avalost> soundray: proxy is set to on ;/
[01:22] <frying_fish> ok, so you won't be able to write to it
[01:22] <orbin> kingspawn: never used ifconfig before...like i said new to broadband.  which is the ip? :-/
[01:22] <avalost> #use_proxy = on
[01:22] <avalost> bah
[01:22] <NET||abuse> is there anything that'll give me a gui terminal session on my box that's gonna run as smoothly as rdp on windows?
[01:22] <soundray> avalost: no, it's not set if there is a # at the beginning of the line
[01:22] <Tidus> NET||abuse: freenx
[01:23] <frying_fish> orbin: it should be simple, if it has an ip it will be a set of 4 sets of numbers, most likely something like 192.168.0.X
[01:23] <josh0001> pvd2006,  My hd is there, but it won't let me access it
[01:23] <kingspawn> orbin: hm, probably some number lookiung like 10.0.0.15 or 192.168.0.123
[01:23] <NET||abuse> ahh, the nx network X lark, yeh
[01:23] <pvd2006> josh0001, what does it say when you try to access it?
[01:23] <josh0001> frying_fish,  Nope, i won't be able to write to it (sadly) But, i would like to be able to read it
[01:23] <Tidus> NET||abuse, Seveas is the resident FreeNX guru on ubuntu
[01:23] <NET||abuse> Tidus, now i've been helped to identify the package, next step... is there an easy deb package available.. or will i have to setup manually?
[01:23] <josh0001> pvd2006,  I quote .... (hold up, let me type it out)
[01:24] <avalost> soundray: indeed, any other ideas then?
[01:24] <orbin> kingspawn: first two lines: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13695
[01:24] <Tidus> NET||abuse: if Seveas is awake, ask him
[01:24] <frying_fish> josh0001: you can edit fstab to change the ownership of the partition to your user.
[01:24] <josh0001> The folder contents could not be displayed, you do not have persmission nessessary to view the contents of "hda1"
[01:24] <soundray> avalost: env | grep -i proxy
[01:24] <Tidus> NET||abuse: or...
[01:24] <Tidus> !tell NET||abuse about freenx
[01:24] <josh0001> frying_fish,  lol, i'm a bit worried about editing fstab, last time i done that i ruined my mepis instillation.
[01:24] <NET||abuse> Tidus, hehe, the resident everything guru
[01:25] <pvd2006> josh0001, did you try to open it with a window manager?
[01:25] <frying_fish> well, make a back up first
[01:25] <orbin> kingspawn: i'm guessing that's not good obviously
[01:25] <soundray> avalost: if there is a http_proxy or similar variable set, do 'export http_proxy=' before the upgrade
[01:25] <frying_fish> and then, if it fails, load that one.
[01:25] <Seveas> NET||abuse, add one of my mirrors to your sources.list and do: apt-get install freenx (on the server) and apt-get install nxclient (on the client)
[01:25] <kingspawn> orbin: doesnt look too bad, guess your getting that kind of IP since its a modem
[01:25] <ompaul> josh0001, from within the gui click on System Administation Disks
[01:25] <kingspawn> orbin: but no luck pinging anything?
[01:25] <josh0001> pvd2006,  Well, i just click the HD icon on my desktop, and boom, it says that.
[01:25] <avalost> soundray:  env | grep -i proxy returns nothing
[01:25] <josh0001> ompaul,  ok, will do.
[01:25] <NET||abuse> Seaveas.. :) sweet
[01:25] <pvd2006> yeah, I get that too, but I have it on purpose, you can change that like ompaul said.
[01:26] <soundray> avalost: okay, then proxy settings aren't what's causing the trouble.
[01:26] <Overand> heh
[01:26] <josh0001> ompaul,  OK, done, what next?
[01:26] <Overand> bluelotus
[01:26] <Seveas> NET||abuse, that assumes you're not running Dapper by the way, I have no Dapper packages yet
[01:26] <NET||abuse> nono..
[01:26] <orbin> kingspawn: well, when i ctrl+c after a while,  i get : 35 packets transmitted, 0 received, +9 errors, 100% packet loss
[01:26] <NET||abuse> Seveas, sensible on breezy
[01:26] <orbin> kingspawn: and i can't open any webpages in ff
[01:26] <NET||abuse> come Juen though!!! yummy
[01:26] <ompaul> josh0001, so highlight it and give it a partition entry name
[01:26] <NET||abuse> s/Juen/June/ hehe
[01:27] <avalost> soundray: I just wgetted a pic from my webserver
[01:27] <avalost> so wget seems to be working fine
[01:27] <kingspawn> orbin: heh, I see. I really have to leave for work now, but you could try unplugging the usb-thingy and rebooting again, just to check that it isnt the modem not wanting to have two connections like that
[01:27] <Tartangear> test
[01:27] <Tidus> just save yourself the hassle and go buy a router.
[01:28] <orbin> kingspawn: i'll try, but i'm certain it supports it.
[01:28] <soundray> avalost: gotta go. Hope you can fix it.
[01:28] <avalost> thanks man
[01:28] <pawan> some one please help
[01:28] <avalost> adios
[01:28] <ompaul> josh0001, if you call it /windows as a mount point then when finished at the command line do "sudo chown josh:josh /windows"
[01:28] <pawan> i cann't login to gnome
[01:28] <josh0001> ompaul,  Where does it allow me to put in a diferent name?.. from what i see, all it has is "disable, browse, change (access path) and format"
[01:28] <avalost> pawan: why not?
[01:28] <avalost> what happens?
[01:28] <Overand> avalost: because his fingertips are glued to the wrong keys
[01:28] <pawan> it gives error that it runs in failsafe xterm
[01:29] <almadelvento> hi
[01:29] <ompaul> josh0001, the access path is where you tell it what you want to call it
[01:29] <avalost> pawan: try removing gnome .dotfiles to reset things
[01:29] <avalost> and then relogin
[01:29] <pvd2006> ompual what is the josh:josh part?
[01:30] <josh0001> ompaul,  alright, i changed it.
[01:30] <cafuego_> pawan: Check for errors in ~/.xsession-errors
[01:30] <pawan> ok i will try
[01:30] <josh0001> now to the command line..
[01:30] <cafuego_> pawan: ... before you start trashing stuff.
[01:30] <Overand> pvd2006: user "josh" and group "josh"
[01:30] <pvd2006> Oh ok
[01:30] <Overand> pvd2006: that changes the ownership of the mountpoint
[01:30] <pawan> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[01:30] <pawan> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "pawan"
[01:30] <pawan> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[01:30] <pawan> grep: Invalid collation character
[01:30] <pawan> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing default failed, will try to run x-terminal-emulator
[01:31] <josh0001> ompaul, alright, i typed that in terminal, and it came back with "cannot access '/windows': No such file or directory.
[01:31] <pawan> ok
[01:32] <xbow> frying_fish: The trying was negative :(  Booting in single mode. Error appears when root system is mounting (/scripts/local-top). Then error and kernel panic - not syncing.
[01:33] <liquidindian> Hello, I just a weird thing happen - ubuntu just went to the Gnome login screen without seeming to reset.  Is there any log file that might tell me what happened?
[01:33] <ompaul> josh0001, in a terminal type this "ls /windows"
[01:33] <ompaul> josh0001, in a terminal type this "ls /windows -l" actuall
[01:34] <josh0001> No suck file or directory it tells me
[01:34] <josh0001> such*
[01:34] <jksd> hi, could someone help me with my problem:
[01:34] <jksd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13697
[01:34] <josh0001> ompaul,  It is actually visible when i click browse in the disk manager
[01:34] <pawan> it didn't work
[01:34] <NET||abuse> hmm, how do i set the timezone using cmdline
[01:34] <ompaul> josh0001, sudo mkdir /windows
[01:34] <mwright1> does anyone here use zimbra or scalix?
[01:34] <NET||abuse> i have the time set now
[01:34] <pvd2006> ompaul, I did sudo chown aod:aod /media/windows and it said changing owernship but tit still said access denied when I try to access it.
[01:34] <NET||abuse> just need to get timezone configured
[01:35] <josh0001> ompaul,  I mean... Not browse, when i click change, it gives me a ope dialogue and i see the contents
[01:35] <josh0001> ok
[01:35] <NET||abuse> and get it to use dst also
[01:35] <ompaul> josh0001, your not in a terimal
[01:35] <ompaul> josh0001, which means I have no idea what your doing, or for that matter how your doing it
[01:35] <josh0001> ompaul,  OK, i done mkdir /windows, What next
[01:35] <josh0001> ompaul,  I'm in terminal
[01:36] <ompaul> phone just a min
[01:36] <amimusa> hi again, I still have the mount problem. You can check here: http://pastebin.com/707146 if you want to try to help. Thank you very much for your try
[01:36] <pvd2006> there it goes
[01:36] <pvd2006> its working now
[01:36] <pvd2006> :0
[01:36] <jksd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13697  <--- I have a problem re-installing grub
[01:37] <linux_galor1> jksd: just run grub-install
[01:37] <jksd> linux_g: check the paste bin
[01:37] <ompaul> josh0001, does "grep windo /etc/fstab" return anything?
[01:37] <josh0001> ompaul,  hold on, i think i might have sorted it.
[01:38] <zm0> amimusa: sudo chown amimusa:amimusa /media/usbDev
[01:39] <amimusa> also when I plug the USB device the mount toolbar show the icon with the USB but not way to mount I take an error about wrong fs type ...
[01:39] <jksd> linux_galor1: you see it?
[01:39] <amimusa> zm0, but like that only the user amimusa will access... it's strange... first time I get this... usually I plug it and it works fine ...
[01:40] <cafuego_> mwright1: You looking at setting up a mail system?
[01:40] <amimusa> also... no zm0 ... the problem still the same
[01:40] <amimusa> what strange ...
[01:40] <zm0> amimusa: is it fat32 ? you shouldn't need an entry in your fstab for hotpluggable devices
[01:41] <josh0001> ompaul,  No, grp windo /etc/fstab does not do anything in terminal
[01:41] <orbin> worked out the cable connection if anyone's interested..i needed to use a login client
[01:41] <amimusa> so then doen't work neither or root
[01:42] <jksd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13697  <--- I have a problem re-installing grub, could anyone help me?
[01:42] <ompaul> josh0001, do this and exactly this >> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup <<
[01:43] <ompaul> josh0001, leaving out the <<>>
[01:43] <zm0> amimusa: maybe try to rebuild your file system on the device: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdaX
[01:43] <josh0001> ompaul,  Done.
[01:43] <amimusa> will i lost my data ?
[01:44] <ompaul> josh0001, what kind of windows ntfs or vfat?
[01:44] <jksd> when I try to install grub, I get this error:
[01:44] <jksd> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[01:44] <amimusa> i can mount it in other machine
[01:44] <zm0> amimusa: yeah, you should back it up first somewhere
[01:44] <josh0001> ntfs.
[01:44] <amimusa> so it's not a problem in the device
[01:44] <ompaul> josh0001, and now do this >> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab  <<
[01:45] <josh0001> ompaul,  quick question, where is the file manager where i am able to ender my password so i can delete files from root?.. I created a second windows folder to try and get the ntfs particion to work, but it didn't help. I'm wondering where the file manager is
[01:45] <josh0001> ompaul,  alright...
[01:45] <ompaul> josh0001, what second folder did you create? /media/windows?
[01:45] <josh0001> ompaul,  Alright, done that, it's opened a text file.
[01:46] <josh0001> ompaul,  Nope, in root ( / ) .. So it was " /WINDOWS " in caps, instead of undercaps.
[01:46] <zm0> amimusa: plugin the device and then pastebin the output of dmesg |tail
[01:46] <ompaul> josh0001, okay np - bad idea to use caps in a directory name - you will learn why over time - it is just counter intuitive
[01:47] <stoffer> Hello there
[01:47] <josh0001> ompaul,  ok
[01:47] <ompaul> josh0001, add this line exactly>> /dev/hda1   /media/windows   ntfs   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0 <<
[01:47] <miracle> no one here
[01:47] <ompaul> miracle, your so right 710 times
[01:47] <miracle> hahahah
[01:47] <stoffer> I am one of those damn windows users. I just freshly installed Ubuntu, and I dont even know how to run files I download. For example: I downloaded a ".run" file from Nvidia.com  - How to I execute it?
[01:47] <kbrooks> http://kbrooks.ath.cx/index.php/2006/05/09/comparing-f-spot-and-beagle/
[01:48] <jksd> when I try to install grub, I get this error:     /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[01:48] <cafuego_> comparing them?
[01:48] <ompaul> stoffer, if you want to do nvidia do this
[01:48] <stoffer> Listening.
[01:48] <ompaul> !tell stoffer about nvidia
[01:48] <ompaul> stoffer, read the message from the bot - it contains URL and that is how you do nvidia on Ubuntu :)
[01:48] <kbrooks> cafuego: it's a point by point  comparison of what they have in common. what tey DON'T have in common would be nice
[01:48] <linux_galor1> jksd: well your main problem is grub doesnt label volumes the same as the normal Linux setup so hda1 means nothing to grub
[01:48] <chombee> DOes anyone know if Arabic is written from right to left instead of left to right? I just installed Arabic language support and it looks that way
[01:49] <stoffer> I got it, ill check it out thank you
[01:49] <Overand> chombee: that's right
[01:49] <josh0001> ompaul,  Alright, done that.
[01:49] <miracle> I wish nVidia could issue a display card of the free-source version
[01:49] <cafuego_> kbrooks: Well <heh> functionality ;-)
[01:49] <amimusa> here you are, thanks for your time: http://pastebin.com/707171
[01:49] <ompaul> josh0001, save and exit gedit
[01:49] <jksd> linux_galor1: so what do I do?
[01:49] <linux_galor1> jksd: grub-install '(hd0)'
[01:49] <kbrooks> cafuego_: what do you mean?
[01:49] <orbin> stoffer: yep, but just so you know, you run run files via terminal (sys > accessories > terminal) .  you cahnge into the directory where the run file is located, then type: ./<nameofrunfile> to run it
[01:49] <cafuego_> kbrooks: They're both nice, but f-spot hasn't rashed my system yet ;-)
[01:50] <kbrooks> cafuego_: hasn't what?
[01:50] <orbin> apps > accessories sorry
[01:50] <cafuego_> kbrooks: bagle on occasion eats all ram + swap
[01:50] <jksd> linux_galor1: replace hd0 with hda1?
[01:50] <miracle> lol
[01:50] <josh0001> that josh001 is me, if anyone is wondering
[01:50] <jksd> linux_galor1: hda1 is the drive I want to install it on
[01:51] <ompaul> josh0001, do this >>sudo mount -a<< and enjoy your partition and WARNING do not try to write to NTFS ever
[01:51] <josh0001> ompaul,  ok. What happens if i try to write to it?.. i hope my computer doesn't blow up
[01:51] <xbow> Problem with mounting root system after the upgrading of dapper flight3. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13698
[01:51] <ompaul> josh0001, well its like this, you won't be able to use windows if you do
[01:52] <linux_galor1> jksd: ok the mbr is on hda  not hda1
[01:52] <amimusa> zm0, it's strange... isn't it ?
[01:52] <ompaul> josh0001, you can look but don't touch - i.e. read don't write
[01:52] <Josh001> ompaul:  It's a windows particion, but it doesn't have windows on it
[01:52] <linux_galor1> jksd: sudo  grub-install  /dev/hda
[01:52] <ompaul> josh0001, same goes for the data on it
[01:52] <josh0001> ompaul,  oh, ok
[01:52] <zm0> amimusa: are you using a usb hub?
[01:52] <amimusa> no
[01:53] <linux_galor1> jksd: forget the 1 you dont need it there is only one mbr per hardisk
[01:53] <kbrooks> heh
[01:53] <kbrooks> update manager autodownloaded those sec updates. only install needed ;)
[01:54] <amimusa> mmm in Debian this kind of things doesn't happend :p
[01:54] <miracle> is debian still alive?
[01:54] <kbrooks> miracle: yes
[01:54] <miracle> oh
[01:55] <amimusa> it's not true at all, but i have a Debian box beside and i mount it easy... I desesperate, losing some time ...
[01:55] <cafuego_> miracle: any reason it wouldn't be?
[01:55] <miracle> too old
[01:55] <kbrooks> miracle: and no, ubuntu isnt debian with "sugar" on top
[01:55] <kbrooks> miracle: _woody_ is too old
[01:55] <miracle> sugar?
[01:55] <amimusa> miracle, of curse
[01:55] <ompaul> miracle, something sweet
[01:55] <jksd> linux_galor1: my HD is partitioned though - hda1 and hda2
[01:55] <cafuego_> miracle: I'll see your "too old" and raise you a "stable".
[01:56] <miracle> "stable but useless" ?
[01:56] <cafuego_> not quite, no
[01:56] <amimusa> zm0, any other suggestion ?
[01:56] <linux_galor1> jksd:   hda  is the hardisk  hda1 is the first partition on the first hardisk  the mbr goes on the first hardisk, you dont put the mbr on the first partition of the first hardisk
[01:56] <jksd> linux_galor1: and I want it installed on hda1 (my linux partition)
[01:56] <jksd> linux_galor1: ah I see
[01:57] <zm0> amimusa: pastebin your dmesg | tail output, or did you already do that?
[01:57] <amimusa> i did
[01:57] <stoffer> While I am successfully installing the nvidia driver (I think, and thanks for the help) - I would like to know: Are there anit virus software for linux?
[01:57] <amimusa> http://pastebin.com/707171
[01:57] <cafuego_> stoffer: Yes, 'clamav' but you won't need it unless you store files or email for use on Windows.
[01:57] <jksd> linux_galor1: i get the same error with: sudo grub-install /dev/hda - which is - /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[01:58] <linux_galor1> jksd: partitions have there own special version of the mbr
[01:58] <stoffer> Ok, wonderful - So I wont need anything like AVG or Ad Aware in Linux?
[01:58] <ompaul> stoffer, as cafuego_ said, its a design thing
[01:58] <kbrooks> stoffer: no
[01:58] <orbin> stoffer: nope.  great hey?
[01:58] <stoffer> I have fallen in love with Linux
[01:58] <jksd> linux_galor1: so what do I do?
[01:58] <orbin> :)
[01:58] <zm0> amimusa: in your fstab you refer to sda1 but when your device is /dev/sdbx
[01:58] <cafuego_> stoffer: Nope.. you may want an adfilter extension in firefox though
[01:58] <amimusa> stoffer, no... there are not viruses either adwares in GNU/Linux system
[01:58] <ompaul> stoffer, free software and you don't have to reinstall every other week after windows rot sets in :-)
[01:58] <zm0> -when
[01:59] <Josh001> ompaul,  Sadly, that didnt work either, it said "mount point /media/windows does not exist"
[01:59] <linux_galor1> jksd: whats in the /etc/grub.conf  file
[01:59] <stoffer> OMG, it should be illegal not to teach linux in schools
[01:59] <amimusa> no zm0 i deleted the entry for the usb device from fstab
[01:59] <cafuego_> stoffer: Yeh, well :-)
[01:59] <jksd> linux_galor1: BTW I'm in a live CD if that makes any difference
[01:59] <ompaul> josh0001, I know the error quick fix
[01:59] <jksd> linux_galor1: there is no such file
[01:59] <Josh001> ompaul:  sweet.
[01:59] <ompaul> josh0001, sudo mkdir /media/windows
[02:00] <ompaul> josh0001, sudo mount -a
[02:00] <linux_galor1> jksd: aaah yeah it wont work
[02:00] <jksd> linux_galor1: how do I get grub going again then?
[02:00] <stoffer> And everything is like installed beforehand! Open Office <3, Firefox <3, <3 bittorent
[02:00] <linux_galor1> jksd: you dont with a live disk
[02:01] <jksd> linux_galor1: how do I then?
[02:01] <linux_galor1> jksd: the cd becomes the primary master when you boot of it
[02:01] <ompaul> josh0001, now ready very very carefully.       sudo rm /WINDOWS
[02:01] <ompaul> josh0001, now ready very very carefully.       sudo rm /windows
[02:01] <ompaul> josh0001, go get some sunshine :)
[02:01] <jksd> linux_galor1: I have critical files I need to rescue from the linux partition, which I can't get into ATM :/
[02:01] <jksd> linux_galor1: the live cd?
[02:02] <linux_galor1> jksd: you just need to mount the partition then burn/save the files to another media
[02:02] <fear_me> hi
[02:02] <jksd> linux_galor1: cool, how do I do so?
[02:02] <linux_galor1> jksd: you dont need grub for that
[02:02] <babo> arghh... I've forgotten how to restart my mysqld ... what's the debian version of the service command again ?
[02:02] <stoffer> ompaul: I think the driver is installed now. But the windows still lag when I drag them around.....?
[02:02] <jksd> linux_galor1: i tried mounting /dev/hda1 but it didn't work
[02:02] <linux_galor1> jksd: so windows is on hda1 right
[02:02] <jksd> jksd: windows is on hda2
[02:03] <kbrooks> babo: /etc/init.d/mysqld restart
[02:03] <jksd> linux_galor1: windows is on hda2
[02:03] <babo> kbrooks :-)
[02:03] <arrinmurr> anyone know of some macroing tool for linux? something like Macro Magic or Ezmacros for windows
[02:03] <Josh001> Does RM Mean remove??
[02:03] <cafuego_> stoffer: is it enabled as well as installed?
[02:03] <linux_galor1> jksd: ok is it ntfs
[02:03] <kbrooks> josh0001: Yes
[02:03] <stoffer> Give me another sec
[02:03] <ompaul> stoffer, you have to restart X, to do that log out and these three keys  " CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE "
[02:03] <jksd> linux_galor1: don't think so, but really sure though
[02:03] <jksd> linux_galor1: don't think so, but not really sure though
[02:04] <zerium> hi folks, could someone point me in the right direction for tuning ubuntu for a smaller memory footprint?
[02:04] <cafuego_> zerium: uninstall gnome
[02:04] <ompaul> zerium, xubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <zerium> I have it in server mode
[02:04] <zerium> (i mean no desktop x win etc)
[02:04] <linux_galor1> jksd: normaly you just creat a directory with ie mkdir /windows   then mount ti with  mount -t vfat /dev/hda2  /windows
[02:04] <kbrooks> zerium: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <cafuego_> zerium: then unless you're using a bunch of services it don't be using much ram, no?
[02:05] <orbin> playing w/ firestarter, newbie to broadband.  how do i know if my ip address is assigned via DHCP?
[02:05] <linux_galor1> jksd: if it doesnt work then its ntfs
[02:05] <stoffer> ompaul: I am trying to enable it now - but it required password, and nothing happens when I press the keyboard when it requests password
[02:05] <jksd> linux_galor1: the critical files I need are on the linux partition
[02:05] <JRGC> I just updated, but apparently I didn't have enough space on my boot partition, so the kernel was not correctly installed by apt-get.
[02:05] <linux_galor1> jksd: then just mount the Linux partition
[02:05] <zerium> :cafuego I have postfix, mysql and lighttpd running and its using almost 256mb
[02:05] <JRGC> How can I force a reinstallation? Which is the package that installs the kernel on ubuntu?
[02:05] <kbrooks> orbin: um. no need for a firewall in ubuntu
[02:05] <cieniass> hi!
[02:06] <linux_galor1> jksd:  mkdir  /linux   mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever  /linux
[02:06] <cafuego_> zerium: How much does it have all up and how much does it say is cached?
[02:06] <ompaul> stoffer, now you have me confused, you have to log out restart X and then log in
[02:06] <stoffer> ompaul: Before enabling?
[02:06] <ompaul> cafuego_, possible seeing cache as problem :=?
[02:06] <ompaul> stoffer, no after
[02:06] <orbin> kbrooks: at all?
[02:07] <zerium> :cafuego total ram on the box is 256, how do i tell if it is caching ram?
[02:07] <jksd> linux_galor1: thanks! :))
[02:07] <zerium> (wish there was a chkconfig on ubuntu)
[02:07] <cafuego_> zerium: It is. It's designed to, makes it faster :-)
[02:07] <ompaul> stoffer, assuming you followed the instructions on the wiki page you would get to the end of it and it says restart X
[02:07] <metallitux> Can't login to any GUI...whenever I do, it just kicks me back to KDM, with no error msg or anything
[02:07] <cafuego_> zerium: See what it says when you run 'free'.
[02:07] <jksd> linux_galor1: but is there a way so I don't have to restart, ie. get grub running?
[02:07] <stoffer> ompaul: Trying now
[02:08] <amimusa> well, i will come back to Debian I think...
[02:08] <zerium> :cafuego its using around 250mb
[02:08] <amimusa> anyway, thank you very much for your support
[02:08] <cafuego_> zerium: It says 25 Mb under 'cache' ?
[02:08] <cafuego_> eh, 250
[02:08] <johndoe> what is the equivalent of /etc/modprobe.conf in ubuntu breezy
[02:08] <zerium> :cafuego sorry, i'll go look... have to vpn to get to the box
[02:09] <zerium> be back in a few
[02:09] <cafuego_> 'k
[02:09] <stoffer> ompaul: I got the nvidia splashscreen, everything is cool
[02:10] <stoffer> ompaul: What do I do to install for example cedega. Same procedure? Search, or am I supposed to go directly to the terminal?
[02:10] <ompaul> stoffer, cegeda we used to have links to that - however for dapper there is this
[02:11] <ompaul> !cegeda
[02:11] <ubotu> The Process For Dapper Is: dpkg -i xlib.deb <<then >> install cedega <<
[02:11] <stoffer> I am a total noob, you need to guide me more
[02:11] <ompaul> stoffer, for most stuff its on the wiki - take a look at the page "wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats"
[02:11] <stoffer> thank you
[02:12] <linux_galor1> jksd: so your basically trying to reinstall grub from a Live cd, yeah your problem is you trying to install the CD's version of grub not the one on the hardisk
[02:12] <linux_galor1> jksd: you need to mount the hardisk
[02:12] <ompaul> stoffer, ask here before you do something in the main don't try to install something I will now send you something I think you should do via the bot - just do it and then you will have 17k + programs at your fingertips
[02:13] <cafuego_> welcome back
[02:13] <zerium> thanks
[02:14] <metallitux> did anyone see me before? cant get into any gui's
[02:14] <zerium> whats the name of that paste tool thing?
[02:14] <cafuego_> webboard?
[02:14] <zerium> (website)
[02:14] <metallitux> zerium, pastebin
[02:14] <ompaul> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:14] <jksd> linux_galor1: ahh, gotcha
[02:14] <administrador> d
[02:15] <linux_galor1> jksd: http://llug.linux.ab.ca/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=83
[02:15] <valehru> ahh good old Jack Bower is saving the world on my ubuntu distro, playing right beside my winex of Guild Wars :)
[02:16] <Josh001> My ubuntu made an odd noise, why?
[02:16] <speedie> anyone ever used proxytunnel?
[02:16] <zerium> :cafuego here is the result of free: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13699
[02:16] <jack> Josh001: that was your speaker, not your ubuntu
[02:16] <valehru> Josh001, I love it when people personify machines
[02:16] <valehru> lol
[02:16] <Josh001> jack:  My speakers doesn't voluntariley make noises.
[02:17] <jack> ubuntu never does, either
[02:17] <Josh001> jack:  uhm... System notificaitons??..
[02:17] <jack> might be
[02:17] <Josh001> I don't know what it's trying to tell me
[02:17] <cafuego_> zerium: It's using around 200Mb, the rest is used as buffer and file cache
[02:17] <jack> your question just sounded like uhm..
[02:17] <cafuego_> zerium: Has it been running for long?
[02:18] <speedie> anyone have experience getting SSH to go through hardened firewalls?
[02:18] <valehru> 1 beep for format root directory, 2 beeps for core detonation
[02:18] <zerium> :cafuego no a week maybe
[02:18] <speedie> I mean, hardened firewall beyond the point where simply setting up SSHD on a nonstandard port will work
[02:18] <Josh001> valehru:  oh fuc*.. it gave me 3 beeps, that must mean it's armegeddon
[02:18] <hurax> zerium: that's ok, linux has an odd way of using memory
[02:18] <linux_galor1> jksd: better howto -> http://tabreziqbal.wordpress.com/2005/12/29/system-rescue-act-using-gnulinux-live-cd/
[02:18] <speedie> I'm trying to tunnel my SSH traffic over HTTP, so that I can sneak out of the firewall - anyone have any ideas?
[02:19] <hurax> so there is more free memory than appears to be
[02:19] <valehru> hehe.....nah....its just looking for a good time then....insert something into the back of the PC......The plug preferably
[02:19] <zerium> :hurax yeah i just want to deploy another rails app on the box and its going to use up all the memory on the box
[02:19] <cafuego_> zerium: You can probably disable stuff like evms, lvm and mdadm. They won't be using much ram though
[02:19] <cafuego_> zerium: Oh, you run dev envs on the web server?
[02:19] <hurax> zerium: go ahead, you will notice when it starts swapping
[02:20] <zerium> :cafuego not sure what you mean the lighttpd server is running the apps in production mode
[02:21] <cafuego_> zerium: *nod* I dunno offhand how much ram rails would add to a server...
[02:21] <cafuego_> zerium: That said, mysql does like ram ;-)
[02:21] <zerium> :cafuego how do i disable that stuff you mentioned? (and other stuff that)
[02:21] <Josh001> How does one go about creating themes for Gnome?
[02:21] <zerium> :cafuego yeah its using 25ish mb
[02:21] <cafuego_> zerium: mysql will be running multiple processes, too
[02:22] <cafuego_> zerium: 'update-rc.d -f <service> remove'
[02:22] <cafuego_> zerium: .. for any service you don't want/need.
[02:22] <zerium> :cafuego ok, how do i get a list of services running on the box? (just use ps?)
[02:23] <zerium> <--- newbie
[02:23] <cafuego_> zerium: First, check /etc/rc2.d
[02:23] <zerium> :ah ok
[02:23] <jksd> linux_galor1: how do I unmounce? 'sudo unmount /linux' says that device is busy
[02:23] <jksd> linux_galor1: s/umount
[02:23] <jksd> linux_galor1: s/unmount
[02:23] <cafuego_> zerium: Note, some inoccuous looking stuff may be vital (just to make life interesting ;-)
[02:23] <jksd> er heh
[02:23] <HymnToLife> jksd> than you must terminate whatever uses it
[02:24] <jksd> HymnToLife: how do I determine what's using it?
[02:24] <zerium> :cafuego thanks ill give that a shot and come back with any questions
[02:24] <HymnToLife> jksd> most of the time it's some silly stuff
[02:24] <zerium> :cafuego is there a list maintained anywhere that would help?
[02:24] <stoffer> ompaul: I cant really understand what I am supposed to with the links you provided. I just need to install cedega now - and to install a program making me able to run windows based program as for example dreamweaver.
[02:24] <HymnToLife> a terminal window CD'ed to the dir, or a Nautilus window
[02:25] <cafuego_> zerium: Not really...
[02:25] <zerium> :cafuego ok maybe i can paste that list and get someone to help verify what i can turn off
[02:25] <cafuego_> zerium: If you're not using software raid or lvm, you can at least disable lvm, evms, mdadm and mdadm-raid
[02:26] <zerium> :cafuego ok i made a note of that
[02:26] <zerium> :cafuego thanks for your help I'll come back in a bit with my /etc/rc2.d
[02:26] <cafuego_> hold on
[02:27] <tripppy> whats the best filesystem for ubuntu?
[02:27] <zerium> ok
[02:27] <jksd> linux_galor1: I did what it said on the website precisely and go errors
[02:27] <cafuego_> Hmm, not much in rc2.d otherwise, on a basic system.
[02:28] <jksd> linux_galor1: oh wait, it might be OK
[02:28] <zerium> how do i tell ubunto not to try to start pcmcia and other stuff like that that isnt needed on a server box?
[02:28] <cafuego_> sudo update-rc.d -f pcmciautils remove
[02:28] <jksd> linux_galor1: so I'm ready to reboot after doing what it says on that site?
[02:28] <zerium> :cafuego ah ok
[02:29] <cafuego_> that one is probably in /etc/rcS.d
[02:30] <stoffer> Can someone guide me in installing cedega?
[02:31] <yyc747> I'm having problems with my laptop.  either it shuts down before the bootup is complete, or shortly thereafter after reporting a critical temperature error.  as I just turned it on, I doubt it could have already maxed its temp.  also, if it helps, the battery life monitor is unable to find the battery, even when the laptop isn't connected to AC.  could these things be connected?  is the hardware faulty, or can I do something about this?
[02:31] <zerium> :cafuego thanks again im going to try to apply some of these changes
[02:32] <Josh001> Does anyone know how I can set gnome window style, so that I can see the full address IN the window, or in the title bar? Thanks
[02:32] <Chri[s] > how do i enable ident?
[02:32] <Josh001> forget it, i found it.
[02:32] <stoffer> I need basic help for installing downloaded applications. I have found guides on the net, to no help.
[02:32] <kenzi> anyone know where i can download kernel-source-2.6.12-9 ??
[02:33] <cafuego_> kenzi: 'sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r)
[02:34] <HymnToLife> stoffer> what are you trying to install ?
[02:34] <cafuego_> kenzi: For most modules, linux-headers-$(uname -r) is sufficient.
[02:35] <cafuego_> stoffer: Most stuff you can install using Synaptic. It's in the System -> Admin menu.
[02:35] <kenzi> cafuego,
[02:35] <kenzi> it cant be found
[02:35] <kenzi> ;/
[02:35] <stoffer> I am trying to install cedega
[02:35] <Nameeater> stoffer: do you have the .deb package?
[02:35] <cafuego_> stoffer: Get the cedega.deb file, run 'sudo dpkg -i <debfile>'
[02:36] <stoffer> I have: .rpm file and .deb file. and .tgz fule
[02:36] <kenzi> anyone know where i can download kernel-source-2.6.12-9 ??
[02:36] <charm> Hey all... I did a apt-get update when my time was off / future, now when I try apt-get update I get "timestamp too far in the future." Anyway to change this?
[02:36] <charm> Other than waiting a couple of days.
[02:36] <cafuego_> kenzi: It's in the ubuntu archives.
[02:36] <stoffer> I am all new to linux, I barely know how to use the terminal
[02:36] <crimsun> kenzi: use linux-source-2.6.12 if you _must_ have the source. besides, cafuego_ already answered you.
[02:36] <cafuego_> kenzi: Ignoring me and reposing the question won't change that.
[02:37] <Nameeater> stoffer: where are those flise?
[02:37] <Nameeater> files*
[02:37] <stoffer> On my desktop
[02:37] <freezey> has anyone every setup phpgroupware?
[02:37] <cafuego_> kenzi: If it can't be found, there is a reason for that.
[02:37] <kenzi> ok ;/
[02:37] <HymnToLife> stoffer> then open a terminal and run sudo dpkg -i Desktop/filename.deb
[02:37] <Chri[s] > how do i enable ident?
[02:38] <cafuego_> Chri[s] : install an ident daemon.
[02:38] <Nameeater> ok, open gnome terminal, type cd Desktop  then type sudo -i cedega_packagename.deb and type your user password
[02:38] <kenzi> ok guys i found it
[02:38] <kenzi> ty for help
[02:38] <xored> what iptable settings are used to be able to use FTP-passive mode on a FTP-serveR ?
[02:39] <stoffer> Ok, I openend the terminal and wrote what you said, but now it asks for password IN the terminal .- but I cant enter it
[02:39] <cafuego_> xored: -m state --state RELATED -j ACCEPT
[02:39] <cafuego_> xored: load ipt_masq_ftp
[02:39] <cafuego_> ipt_conntrack_ftp even
[02:40] <xored> cafuego: one second, its a bit to much :)
[02:40] <xored> cafuego: i got this : -m state --state RELATED -j ACCEPT for input, do i need it for output too ?
[02:40] <Nameeater> why cant you enter it?
[02:40] <cafuego_> xored: Not unless you're blocking OUPUT
[02:40] <karina> I'm on breezy having an issue installing nforce audio drivers.  Is there a howto?
[02:40] <Nameeater> oh you mean the characters dont show up?
[02:41] <xored> cafuego: output is on ACCEPT
[02:41] <cafuego_> xored: -state RELATED,ESTABLISHED actually
[02:41] <imonkey> !dapper
[02:41] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[02:41] <orbin> how would i update my ati.com fglrx driver?  do i need to uninstall, or do i just repeat the install process w/ the new driver?
[02:41] <ompaul> stoffer, I was not here, to install applications you should always first check the system to see if the application is bundled with it, to do this follow the instructions in  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto  that is what I wanted you to do next, there is a very valid reason for you doing this next
[02:41] <xored> cafuego: i have blocked all ports except : 20/21 ( udp/tc), 80. do i need to open some oprts above 1023 ?
[02:41] <karina> !nforce
[02:41] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, karina
[02:42] <Nameeater> ompaul: its cedega so it wont be
[02:42] <stoffer> ompual: The app is not bundled
[02:42] <Nameeater> stoffer: so whats the problem at the moment?
[02:42] <cafuego_> xored: No, of you allow RELATEd and ESTABLISHED packets, with conntrack_ftp loaded, the firewall will keep an eye on what to allow.
[02:42] <ompaul> Nameeater, however for 99% of applications that is the way forward and afik its looking for some lib these days
[02:42] <stoffer> That I cant figure this out, its so confusing
[02:42] <stoffer> Terminal: There is no such directory
[02:42] <xored> cafuego: how to load this module ?
[02:43] <xored> cafuego: could you give me a whole example line ?
[02:43] <cafuego_> xored: sudo modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp
[02:43] <Nameeater> stoffer: cd ~/Desktop
[02:43] <ompaul> stoffer, .dkyour country has a huge FLOSS supporting community,
[02:43] <Nameeater> make sure the D is a capital as linux is case sensitive
[02:43] <karina> Is anyone using an nforce sound card?  Should it work out of the box?
[02:43] <ompaul> Nameeater, I'll leave it with you
[02:43] <Smacky_Wolf> Karina, I am trying to
[02:44] <stoffer> ompaul: and how do I reach em?
[02:44] <cafuego_> xored: For he rule, 'sudo iptables -A INPUT -i <interface> (-d destination) -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT'
[02:44] <ompaul> stoffer, I'll get you a url please wait a moment I need to ring someone
[02:44] <stoffer> ok
[02:44] <stoffer> Still now
[02:44] <cafuego_> sorry, phone...
[02:44] <Smacky_Wolf> karina, mine is builtin, but it came with drivers for linux.. i dunno
[02:44] <stoffer> Can I get some help in the meantime?
[02:44] <Nameeater> stoffer: me!
[02:44] <xored> cafuego: it worked like a sharm. thank you a lot
[02:44] <stoffer> Yes, thank you very much
[02:45] <stoffer> I have three files on my desktop (I think its called desktop, I dont know) - and I want the application to be installed.
[02:45] <Nameeater> stoffer: so, close the last terminal you had open, open a new one and type cd ~/Desktop  make sure the D is a capital
[02:45] <ompaul> stoffer, have a look at this www.lug.dk
[02:45] <stoffer> got .rpm and .deb. and .tgz
[02:45] <phil0u> bonjour
[02:45] <HymnToLife> stoffer> can you read ?
[02:45] <stoffer> ok
[02:45] <phil0u> oops , hello :)
[02:45] <HymnToLife> you were told a million times you had to run sudo dpkg -i filename.Deb
[02:46] <stoffer> ompaul: Can I reach them over IRC?
[02:46] <L0g0ff> hi, when i start wine il get the error: "error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so". I know the problem is in the lib path. I found many articles on the internet where the say i must edit my: /etc/ld.so.conf. But I don't have this file on my ubuntu 5.10 install. What can I do?
[02:46] <Nameeater> stoffer: so you are now in the Desktop folder in your terminal?
[02:46] <ompaul> stoffer, read that some of them may maintain IRC check it out
[02:47] <stoffer> but it'll confuse me more
[02:47] <stoffer> Then I have to figure out that too
[02:47] <HymnToLife> stoffer> but what's the problem ?
[02:47] <Nameeater> stoffer: please listen to me or I am going to go to bed :(
[02:47] <HymnToLife> Open a terminal (Applications > Accessories)
[02:47] <stoffer> I am listening!
[02:48] <stoffer> Icant type the line you said I should
[02:48] <HymnToLife> why ?
[02:48] <stoffer> Now. Terminal says: Desktop$
[02:48] <HymnToLife> ok
[02:48] <Nameeater> good!
[02:48] <HymnToLife> then type
[02:48] <HymnToLife> sudo dpkg -i name_of_your_file.deb
[02:49] <Awesome-o2000> are there ubuntu-friendly driver packages for one to use for their ATI card] 
[02:49] <Smacky_Wolf> Anyone think that having too long a cat5 between the PC that is serving interwebs to my ubuntu box would be slowing it majorly down? the internets, i mean
[02:49] <HymnToLife> !tell Awesome-o2000 about ati
[02:49] <Warbo> Smacky_Wolf: It would probably depend on the speed of your LAN
[02:49] <stoffer> Now, it asks for my password
[02:49] <stoffer> But I cant enter anything
[02:49] <HymnToLife> type it then :)
[02:50] <Nameeater> after Password: comes up your characters will not appear in the terminal, this is a security measure, but type your user password and it will work fine
[02:50] <HymnToLife> yes you can
[02:50] <stoffer> No I cant.
[02:50] <HymnToLife> you don't see anything but it's ok
[02:50] <yyc747> what exactly is the text-mode install CD for dapper?  is this the same as the previous installers?
[02:50] <HymnToLife> just type your password and press enter
[02:50] <stoffer> Whatever I press, it dosent type anything on the screen
[02:50] <stoffer> ahhh ok
[02:50] <Nameeater> its a security measure to prevent people looking over your shoulder and reading it :)
[02:50] <L0g0ff> hi, when i start wine il get the error: "error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so". I know the problem is in the lib path. I found many articles on the internet where the say i must edit my: /etc/ld.so.conf. But I don't have this file on my ubuntu 5.10 install. What can I do?
[02:50] <Warbo> I've heard a lot about DMA for making disk access faster. Would it work for a USB hard disk?
[02:50] <L0g0ff> warbo: no
[02:51] <crimsun> L0g0ff: create it. By default we don't need an /etc/ld.so.conf.
[02:51] <Warbo> L0g0ff: OK, thought not
[02:51] <stoffer> Give me a sec
[02:51] <Smacky_Wolf> warbo: I'm not sure, but seeing as I'm sharing dialup, I need to make it as fast as I can. I get a ping of about 154ms
[02:51] <tripppy> whats the best filesystem for ubuntu?
[02:51] <Smacky_Wolf> ext3?
[02:51] <L0g0ff> thanks crimsun. I'll try to find an example somewhere
[02:52] <m_0_r_0_n> and the best filesystem for mounts? smbfs, nfs, nis?
[02:52] <stoffer> Error. package xlibs is not installed
[02:52] <L0g0ff> resiserFS oid
[02:52] <avalost> hrm, anyone have any idea why the ubuntu fluxbox package does not have fluxbox-generate_menu compiled?
[02:52] <Marius_> Hey, can anyone help me with the error I'm getting: "[4294770.245000]  usb 5-5: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[02:52] <Marius_> "
[02:52] <Warbo> Smacky_Wolf: I think the faster the connection, the smaller the network has to be (physically), but the faster your hardware is capable of the better it will be. In other words, using a gigabit ethernet connection at 10kb/s will be more reliable over longer distances
[02:52] <FliesLikeALap> m_0_r_0_n  that isn't something you can choose if the filesystem is already on the disk. you have to use the one that is used on the drive
[02:52] <stoffer> nameeater: I get an error
[02:52] <Smacky_Wolf> warbo: thanks <3
[02:53] <stoffer> what is xlibs?
[02:53] <Nameeater> its a package
[02:53] <stoffer> Where do I install it?
[02:53] <Warbo> stoffer: Libraries used by the graphics (X) server
[02:53] <m_0_r_0_n> FliesLikeABrick, ok, thanks
[02:53] <Nameeater> stoffer: type sudo apt-get install xlibs
[02:54] <Nameeater> in the terminal
[02:54] <Warbo> stoffer: "sudo apt-get install xlibs"
[02:54] <stoffer> Yay, installing
[02:54] <Smacky_Wolf> The speed of my download makes me sadface. 3300 b/s
[02:55] <Warbo> stoffer: For a nicer interface to install packages on a console you can use "sudo aptitude"
[02:56] <tripppy> how do i share a printer with windoz ?
[02:56] <stoffer> It works, I installed it!
[02:56] <Warbo> tripppy: Samba
[02:56] <bimberi> !xpprint
[02:56] <ubotu> Printing from ubuntu to an XP connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter.  Printing from XP to an ubuntu connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[02:57] <tripppy> sweet
[02:57] <zerium> :cafuego i turned off the raid stuff
[02:57] <jksd> hi, how do I get grub to load into my linux partition rather than my win partition?
[02:57] <jksd> I'm not even sure if grub is up and running
[02:57] <zerium> :cafuego still here?
[02:57] <Warbo> jksd: Press esc when you are booting (it will say in the corner) and there should be a menu
[02:58] <jksd> War: I think it's not working then
[02:58] <zerium> hi all if i am running my box as a server do i need to have the nvidia-kernel run on startup?
[02:59] <zerium> (not using x)
[02:59] <Warbo> jksd: You can boot from a live cd, mount your Linux system then run "grub-install /dev/yourharddrive"
[02:59] <stoffer> Now, can anyone helping me installing an application enabling me to use gtalk and msn?
[02:59] <jksd> War: yeah, I've just done that
[02:59] <stoffer> and for that matter any windows based app?
[02:59] <Warbo> jksd: In a chroot I mean
[02:59] <Nameeater> gaim does that stoffer
[02:59] <stoffer> Can you link me up?
[03:00] <jksd> Warbo: yeah, I've just done that, but it's not working
[03:00] <Warbo> stoffer: apt-get install gaim
[03:00] <Nameeater> it shdould be under Applications -> Internet -> Gaim
[03:00] <stoffer> Thank you.
[03:00] <Nameeater> Warbo: isnt gaim preinstalled? :)
[03:00] <jksd> Warbo: could it be something to do with the menu.lst file?
[03:00] <Warbo> Nameeater: Well, he didn't have xlibs
[03:00] <fernando> hi all, anyone have dapper install freeze problem in "selecting and installing" time? I look a problem in X probe test.
[03:00] <stoffer> Maybe, I dont know the app. How does recycle bin work in linux?
[03:00] <Nameeater> you have a point
[03:01] <Warbo> jksd: The only thing that might affect it in there is the timeout. If it is set to 0. Otherwise I don't know why it isn't coming up
[03:01] <Nameeater> if your using the GUI everything is moved to the Trash icon at the bottom right
[03:01] <jksd> Warbo: when I type grub in the shell, and type 'root (hd0,1)' I get 'filesystem is FAT'
[03:01] <jksd> Warbo: alright, I'll check that
[03:02] <Warbo> jksd: You may want to get rid of hidden if it is set that way as well. There is not much point if you have more than one OS
[03:02] <rocky> morning
[03:03] <Warbo> afternoon
[03:03] <maskd> evening
[03:03] <jksd> grub> root (hd0,1)
[03:03] <jksd>  Filesystem type is fat, partition type 0xc
[03:03] <jksd> Warbo: could that be anything to do with it?
[03:04] <Warbo> jksd: You do know that that is your second partition?
[03:04] <rocky> I've been pulling my hair out on this for 2 days. Trying to convert a ' to \' with sed or awk. Can someone show me how to do this without it barfing?
[03:04] <jksd> Warbo: no, I'm new to all this :/
[03:05] <jksd> Warbo: I know that windows is my second partition
[03:05] <Warbo> jksd: They both start at 0, so hd(0,0) is first partition forst disk
[03:05] <Warbo> jksd: Do you have any LiveCDs that use GRUB?
[03:06] <jksd> Warbo: I'm in an ubuntu liveCD ATM
[03:06] <jksd> Warbo: so if I set it to, root (hd0,0), it should work?
[03:06] <Warbo> jksd: If you can get into GRUB you can boot your Linux system, Ubuntu uses a different system I think
[03:07] <Smacky_Wolf> could anyone tell me why ./configure won't work?
[03:07] <jksd> Warbo: yeah, but I want to load up ubuntu without having to go through the live cd
[03:07] <Smacky_Wolf> on a clean install, with the req'd pkgs/
[03:07] <Warbo> jksd: Booting Windows and Linux is very different. Windows is "chainloaded" and Linux is booted by GRUB
[03:07] <HymnToLife> Smacky_Wolf> what are you trying to build ?
[03:07] <orbin> rocky: more generic channels might be helpful: #linux, #linuxhelp
[03:07] <Smacky_Wolf> Alsa drivers.
[03:07] <jksd> Warbo: I see, but grub can load windows too, no?
[03:07] <zerium> can someone help me with advice on which services i need to run on bootup for a server?
[03:07] <HymnToLife> !alsa
[03:07] <ubotu> well, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[03:07] <zerium> (or which ones i can turn off)
[03:08] <Warbo> jksd: Well, GRUB doesn't actually load windows. It just lets go of the system so Windows can use it's own bootloader
[03:08] <kuja> jksd: Yes, yes it can.
[03:08] <kuja> Same effect.
[03:08] <Smacky_Wolf> I'll just grab it with apt
[03:08] <Warbo> jksd: What I am getting at is that you need a root line, a kernel line, an initrd line then boot
[03:08] <Warbo> jksd: You cannot just replace your Windows entry with your linux partition
[03:09] <jksd> Warbo: so how do I fix all this?
[03:09] <rocky> zerium: Here is what I have running ... S05vbesave             S20courier-pop      S89anacron
[03:09] <rocky> S10acpid               S20courier-pop-ssl  S89atd
[03:09] <rocky> S10sysklogd            S20hotkey-setup     S89cron
[03:09] <rocky> S11klogd               S20makedev          S91apache2
[03:09] <rocky> S12dbus                S20mysql            S91apache-ssl
[03:09] <rocky> S15bind                S20nanoFW           S99acpi-support
[03:09] <Warbo> jksd: Well, do you know if GRUB is loading at all? It seems like it isn't, then changing it's config is pretty useless
[03:09] <jksd> do I add a windows entry into the menu.lst file?
[03:09] <rocky> S20courier-authdaemon  S20pop-before-smtp  S99rmnologin
[03:09] <rocky> S20couriergraph        S20postfix          S99stop-bootlogd
[03:09] <rocky> S20courier-imap        S20pure-ftpd-mysql
[03:09] <rocky> S20courier-imap-ssl    S20ssh
[03:09] <maskd> rocky: http://pastbin.com
[03:09] <maskd> http://pastebin.com
[03:10] <jksd> Warbo: it might be loading since I did root(hd0,0) in the grub shell
[03:10] <Warbo> jksd: Ubuntu should have added any windows installations it found during install
[03:10] <jksd> Warbo: ahh, you see, I installed linux first and windows second
[03:10] <Warbo> jksd: That root line just tells thew GRUB that you are running where to work. It needs to be installed
[03:10] <Warbo> jksd: There you go. Windows overwrites GRUB
[03:11] <jksd> Warbo: yeah I know that, it overwrites it in the MBR
[03:11] <Warbo> jksd: A simple "grub-install /dev/hda" should do it. Once you are in Ubuntu you can easily add windows to the menu.lst
[03:11] <jksd> Warbo: OK, I'll try it again
[03:11] <donvella> jksd: title (Windows XP) > root (hd0,0) > savedefault > makeactive > chainloader +1
[03:11] <donvella> jksd: where hd0,0 is that is where my windows partition is installed, yours may be different
[03:12] <jksd> Warbo: is it /dev/hda or /dev/hda1?
[03:12] <Warbo> donvella: His is hd0,1
[03:12] <jksd> donpachi: thanks
[03:12] <donvella> Warbo: cheers.
[03:12] <jksd> donvella: thanks
[03:12] <Warbo> jksd: The master boot record is hda, hda1 will install it to a partition (if you want to chainload it)
[03:12] <donvella> Warbo: what does chainloader do exactly?
[03:12] <fernando> how to install dapper without any X probe?
[03:12] <traveller> does anyone have problems with cjk input with scim on breezy amd64? on breezy x86 it works as expected, but on amd64 it falls short of actually making the cjk input.
[03:13] <donvella> traveller: i had quite a few problems with the 64bit version.
[03:13] <HymnToLife> donvella> it tells GRUB to use the bootloader that is on the given partition
[03:13] <HymnToLife> instead of tryng to boot it itself
[03:13] <traveller> donvella: by any chance you know it might be fixed in dapper?
[03:13] <orbin> fernando: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[03:13] <Warbo> donvella: It tells GRUB to let go of the system and hand it over to the other bootloader. Usually windows', but if you have like, Fedora and Ubuntu, you can install one on a partition and one on MBR. Then chainload the MBR one onto the partition. That way the config files won't over write each other
[03:13] <jksd> Warbo: so do I want to do /dev/hda or /dev/hda1?
[03:14] <Warbo> jksd: hda
[03:14] <donvella> traveller: no i dont, i had breezy 64bit it was very unsupported, dodgy, i went back to x86 and upgraded to dapper, couldnt be happier, runs about the same as 64bit.
[03:14] <jksd> OK, thanks, can I test it, or do I have to reboot to do so?
[03:14] <traveller> donvella: i see, thanks
[03:14] <jksd> Warbo: it's just this live cd takes ages to boot
[03:14] <Smacky_Wolf> DOnvella: Should I try just the x86 version for my AMD Athlon 64 3000+?
[03:14] <fernando> orbin, thanks
[03:15] <tripppy> sweet thanks, printing help guide worked!@
[03:15] <Warbo> jksd: QEmu can test it, but that's not on the disc
[03:15] <donvella> Smacky_Wolf: I have an AMD Atholon64 3000+ ATI Radeon 9250 1gb DDR, i use x86 Ubuntu Dapper, works sweet.
[03:15] <HymnToLife> Smacky_Wolf> 64 Bit archs are very well supportd by now
[03:15] <donvella> HymnToLife: I disagree, though go ahead if you know what your doing.
[03:16] <Smacky_Wolf> donvella: I can't get dapper just yet...
[03:16] <donvella> Smacky_Wolf: Why not?
[03:16] <Warbo> Does PowerPC have a 64bit version for G5?
[03:16] <jksd> Warbo: OK, I'mma reboot
[03:16] <Smacky_Wolf> donvella: I'm stuck on dialup, and it's not in ShipIt yet
[03:16] <Warbo> jksd: Good luck
[03:16] <HymnToLife> donvella> they are if you have no need fort 3 bit only stuff like w32codecs or Flash/Java ;)
[03:16] <jksd> Warbo: thanks for your help
[03:16] <donvella> HymnToLife: Fair nuf
[03:17] <donvella> Smacky_Wolf: I see
[03:17] <Josh001> Hi, simple question, Any possible way to disable "animate when minimizing/maximizing" ?
[03:18] <donvella> HymnToLife: i just found a lack of programs to work correctly, i had installation issues with certain divices, i just liked how the x86 version works first time every time
[03:19] <Warbo> donvella: That's really just an issue of developer support. FLOSS works on pretty much everything, but trying to run windows codecs and stuff won't work without either a 32bit chroot on an x86-64 system or qemu userspace emulation on other architectures
[03:20] <donvella> Warbo: what reason is that
[03:20] <HymnToLife> Well, the only 64 Bit box I have I use as a serer atm nd it works fine :)
[03:21] <morphix> is there a breezy repo for apache 2.2?
[03:21] <Warbo> donvella: It is because windows only works on x86. Since no developers bother to write windows codecs for ARM, there is little support!
[03:21] <morphix> so far all i get is 2.0
[03:21] <donvella> Warbo: fair nuf
[03:22] <Smacky_Wolf> warbo: is that why Win98se chucked a shit fit when I tried to put it on my box?
[03:22] <donvella> Warbo: what about the Windows XP 64Bit?
[03:22] <HymnToLife> Warbo> true, but who cares about Windows codecs for crappy formats like WMV ?
[03:22] <donvella> i do, ebaumsworld.com *cough* :P
[03:22] <Warbo> Smacky_Wolf: I don't think so. 64bit x86 uses the same instruction set as 32bit, so 32bit apps should run fine
[03:23] <Warbo> donvella: Yes, but it a) wasn't very popular and b) still doesn't work on ARM does it? (and DON'T mention "pocketpc edition")
[03:23] <zerium> sudo update-rc.d lighttpd start 2345 stop 016
[03:23] <zerium> could someone tell me why this command is failing? sudo update-rc.d lighttpd start 2345 stop 016
[03:23] <Smacky_Wolf> I think windows has just dispwned me. Oh well, I guess I'm stuck with ID games now =3
[03:23] <donvella> can you get ID games to work on linux well?
[03:23] <Warbo> donvella: I HATE ebaumsworld. It rips so much stuff off
[03:23] <OlliK> rips?
[03:23] <donvella> Warbo: any good replacements?
[03:23] <jksd> Warbo: worked that time, how do I add the win partition.. do I have to do it via the menu.lst file, or is there a GUI way of doing it?
[03:23] <Smacky_Wolf> ID have specifically ported to Linux =3
[03:24] <Warbo> donvella: Newgounds.com, The original and best
[03:24] <Smacky_Wolf> So we get RTCW, Doom 3 and all the UTs.
[03:24] <Warbo> Newgrounds, sorry
[03:24] <donvella> jksd: menu.lst
[03:24] <donvella> Warbo: i laugh at your newgrounds.com
[03:24] <donvella> Warbo: rated, worst site ever.
[03:24] <jksd> donvella: I'm sure there was a GUI way, no?
[03:24] <donvella> jksd: safest way is through the terminal :P
[03:25] <Warbo> donvella: Why, because it is artist supported? Anyway, have you seen the Lemon Demon video about ebaumsworld. It's pretty funny
[03:25] <donvella> Warbo: show me
[03:25] <mlopes> hi. I have both gcc 3.4 and gcc 4.0 installed on dapper drake. how do I change between them without having to update the sym links on /usr/bin ?
[03:25] <zerium> hi all could someone help me with figuring out what services are essential to start on my ubunto server?
[03:25] <Warbo> donvella: It's in the top 50 of newgrounds
[03:25] <zerium> err ubuntu
[03:25] <jksd> OK, so how do I do it then?
[03:25] <tripppy> can anyone help with remote desktop sharing. followed guide. remote client saying password is wrong.
[03:26] <donvella> Warbo: well id look if you had a direct link, but you aint getting me to type that shit site into my beautiful address bar :D
[03:26] <Warbo> jksd: I will have a look up the chat for you, cos someone posted the lines earlier
[03:26] <donvella> yeh i got them here.
[03:26] <jksd> Warbo: thanks
[03:26] <Warbo> jksd: title (Windows XP) > root (hd0,0) > savedefault > makeactive > chainloader +1 (where > means new line)
[03:26] <Warbo> jksd: But use hd0,1
[03:26] <donvella> jksd: ~ cd /boot/grub > sudo gedit menu.lst then type that stuff in
[03:27] <jksd> ahh I see
[03:27] <lew[ubuntu] > Can anyone help me figure out how to run firefox? I downloaded the firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz, untared it but when I try and run the firefox-bin (executable) file, nothing happens. Any ideas?
[03:27] <donvella> lol
[03:27] <Warbo> !ff1.5
[03:27] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:27] <donvella> Warbo: ontop of things are we son :P
[03:28] <donvella> Warbo: i bet you got hot keys up the wazoo :D
[03:28] <Warbo> donvella: Yes we are. And now I can't see my QEmu window under GAIM
[03:28] <lew[ubuntu] > Thanks Warbo =)
[03:28] <donvella> Warbo: just alt tab ya way through mate ul be rite haha
[03:28] <Warbo> donvella: Nope. I just look at the keyboard (I can't touch type) then when I press enter someone has replied already
[03:29] <donvella> Warbo: are you serious? cant touch type, how old?
[03:29] <jksd> Warbo: do I want to make it active? I want linux to be the default OS
[03:29] <Warbo> donvella: 18, been using computers since I was 4
[03:29] <Smacky_Wolf> hooolllly crap. I think a makefile actually worked right off the bat for me o.o
[03:29] <donvella> Warbo: yeh but that doesnt mean much lol
[03:30] <Warbo> jksd: That is just part of the process. The first entry is called entry 0, and at the top the default entry is set. If that is zero then Linux will load (if it is the first entry)
[03:30] <donvella> jksd make it active, it wont make it default, just put it in the order you want, you can put windows at the bottom of your grub list
[03:30] <jksd> ah OK, thanks guys
[03:30] <JinRoh>  hi
[03:30] <Warbo> jksd: You can use the line "makedefault" to make one default anyway
[03:30] <jksd> Warbo: ah I see
[03:30] <donvella> Warbo: lol ive been using PCs for longer then that, that doesnt mean nothing, its what you get out of it that matters, i spent a good 15years of that education playing doom...quake :D
[03:31] <JinRoh> how can I play wmv videos in ubuntu - AMD64?? (wmv3)??
[03:31] <HymnToLife> !w32codecs
[03:31] <JinRoh> in amd64
[03:31] <donvella> JinRoh: get a program called VLC Media Player
[03:31] <Smacky_Wolf> me too =3
[03:31] <jksd> just gonna test it again
[03:31] <Warbo> donvella: I made animations, 3D stuff and things. I was terrible at typing until I started using Linux about 18 months ago. But is that just a sign that we need more GUIS?
[03:31] <JinRoh> donvella,  vlc doesn't play wmv3 videos
[03:31] <HymnToLife> you can use them on amd64 too
[03:31] <JinRoh> HymnToLife, I can't
[03:31] <donvella> JinRoh: try mplayer
[03:32] <JinRoh> mplayer is the same
[03:32] <donvella> Warbo: You use maya or 3dsmax?
[03:32] <JinRoh> I can't
[03:32] <donvella> JinRoh: Up shit creek mate :D
[03:32] <HymnToLife> !tell JinRoh about w32codecs
[03:32] <HymnToLife> see the last link
[03:32] <Warbo> donvella: I ahve used 3ds max, but I like Imagine a lot
[03:32] <donvella> Warbo: how many years experience? show me a site.
[03:32] <JinRoh> thanks HymnToLife  i will try it
[03:32] <zerium> :donvella maya is the end all ;)
[03:33] <donvella> zerium: ;) damn strate son
[03:33] <JinRoh> but I'm in Ubuntu Dapper, does it matter?
[03:33] <HymnToLife> dunno
[03:33] <donvella> zerium: im learning maya currently, cant figure out how to install it on my linux box but its a great program
[03:33] <Warbo> donvella: I have no artwork on the net, I only started when I was 8 (OMG, what a late bloomer) but I'm pretty sure Imagine is discontinued now anyway
[03:33] <HymnToLife> didn't bother to try out Dapper yet
[03:33] <donvella> 8 is young.
[03:33] <Warbo> I used Maya once. I made a ball and turned it white. Damn it's hard to use
[03:33] <zerium> :donvella yeah i've never tried... use windows (runs better/faster) at least thats what the guys from pixar told me
[03:33] <Smacky_Wolf> "this package requires a curses library" HrM? Any clue, anyone?
[03:34] <donvella> http://www.artificialdesign.net/images everything but the plane i created, im only NEW to maya like 1 month so dont be flattered
[03:34] <crimsun> Smacky_Wolf: trying to compile something?
[03:34] <Warbo> Smacky_Wolf: Search for ncurses in Synaptic
[03:34] <Smacky_Wolf> yeppers, it doesn't exist
[03:34] <crimsun> Smacky_Wolf: get libncurses5-dev if so
[03:34] <Smacky_Wolf> er
[03:34] <Smacky_Wolf> I have it.
[03:34] <donvella> Warbo: I got a nice marble on that site for you with a HDRI lighting map
[03:35] <Smacky_Wolf> thanks
[03:35] <donvella> lol
[03:35] <Smacky_Wolf> i don't, actually.
[03:35] <zerium> :donvella that screwdriver looks good
[03:35] <morphix> is there a breezy repo for apache 2.2? i only see 2.0.. i guess i'll have to compile
[03:35] <Warbo> donvella: Well I have tried making a few vectors in Inkscape, but I like my blurring and stuff in GIMP. I still have the image open and the number of layers of gradients is getting stupid!
[03:35] <donvella> zerium: cheers, i used maya for all of them, and for the temple i created the temple in maya the scene in Vue
[03:36] <Warbo> donvella: Have you used Blender? I have an image done partly in that (a very crap experiment while getting used to the interface)
[03:36] <zerium> :donvella I wish i had the time... learned it in school and now I'm a web developer
[03:36] <donvella> Warbo i have installed blender, had a quick lookie.
[03:37] <zerium> :donvella dont get to play much win animation anymore (other than after effects)
[03:37] <donvella> zerium: I dont have much time, i party alot plus i want to do a course, not sure if its worth it
[03:37] <zerium> er with animation
[03:37] <zerium> :donvella ... i went to school for animation....
[03:37] <donvella> 14grand for a 3d animation course
[03:37] <Warbo> donvella: http://www.geocities.com/namorvia/fan.html the one on the left. It's my mates site and I thought I'd try to show up his artistic abilities
[03:38] <Skeletonix> Hi my computer start very slow and in dmesg I found this error:
[03:38] <Skeletonix> hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21
[03:38] <Skeletonix> [  129.995049]  hda: DMA timeout error
[03:38] <Skeletonix> [  129.995068]  hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
[03:38] <Skeletonix> [  129.995088]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[03:38] <Skeletonix> [  150.008853]  hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21
[03:38] <Skeletonix> [  159.996779]  hda: DMA timeout error
[03:38] <Skeletonix> [  159.996794]  hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
[03:38] <Skeletonix> [  159.996809]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[03:38] <Skeletonix> pleas how can I fixed it?
[03:38] <Warbo> Skeletonix: www.pastebin.com please
[03:38] <donvella> lol im very confused by that warbo
[03:38] <Warbo> donvella: What am I on? the right I mean
[03:38] <Atomizeus> anyone here used gDesklets?
[03:38] <Warbo> Atomizeus: I do
[03:39] <Atomizeus> Warbo, is there any way of making the desklets like the application bar on ubuntu? so nothing "overlaps" it?
[03:39] <donvella> Warbo you tripper
[03:39] <donvella> haha
[03:39] <Atomizeus> since atm firefox, etc when maximized hides the GnomeBar desklet, which I don't really want :S
[03:39] <Warbo> Atomizeus: I don't think so. You can put them on top, but stuff can still go behind
[03:39] <shadeofgrey> okay i kjnow this is going to sound dumb but how the hell do i install new ttf fonts into my main fonts list?
[03:39] <Skeletonix> pleas!!
[03:39] <Atomizeus> ack >_<
[03:40] <orbin> ubotu: tell shadeofgrey about fonts
[03:40] <miweit00> hi
[03:40] <tritium> !fonts
[03:40] <ubotu> somebody said fonts was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[03:40] <Warbo> shadeofgrey: point Nautilus to fonts://
[03:40] <slackern> !tell Skeletonix about patience
[03:41] <zerium> :donvella some of my stuff: http://www.zerium.com/drop_box/pre_compressed.mov http://www.zerium.com/drop_box/lolipop_final.mov
[03:41] <miRaGe> I am using an Ubuntu live-cd in order to retrieve files off of an NTFS hard drive so that it can be transferred to an OSX based PC.  What is the easiest and most efficient method to do this?
[03:41] <Warbo> Skeletonix: Not that you should take this as the case, but I got those kind of messages before my disks failed (and they have many times)
[03:41] <zerium> :donvella (old stuff from school)
[03:41] <donvella> ok
[03:41] <donvella> you did in windows or linux?
[03:41] <JinRoh> HymnToLife : UPDATE: It seems wmv9 don't work with my HOWTO.
[03:41] <Josh001> Can anyone help?.. I'm trying to play an xvid codec movie, but it won't let me play.
[03:41] <orbin> er, how exactly do you use the bittorrent app?
[03:41] <JinRoh> And I am trying to open wmv9 videos :(
[03:41] <HymnToLife> I heard WMV9 are a no-go
[03:42] <orbin> Josh001: what app?
[03:42] <Warbo> donvella: So close minded. I use Imagine on Amiga
[03:42] <donvella> zerium: bugger dude i cant get it to work, having trouble getting mplayer plugin to work correct
[03:42] <Josh001> orbin: totem with xvid codec from synaptic
[03:42] <donvella> Warbo: lol I like abstract dude dont you worry bout that
[03:42] <orbin> Josh001: what codec is that?
[03:42] <farous> !find jedit
[03:42] <[3XS] truthseek> hi
[03:42] <Josh001> orbin:  it's called xvid.
[03:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'jedit' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/sourcenav/share/sourcenav/gui/projedit.tcl) in universe/devel/sourcenav.
[03:43] <zerium> :donvella ah
[03:43] <orbin> Josh001: oh, you must be on dapper?
[03:43] <Josh001> orbin:  yes.
[03:43] <orbin> Josh001: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[03:43] <Warbo> Does xine play most avis and stuff by itself?
[03:43] <Atomizeus> ack
[03:43] <Josh001> orbin:  ok
[03:43] <Atomizeus> removed "below" window option
[03:43] <Warbo> I mean Gstreamer uses plugins
[03:43] <[3XS] truthseek> I'm trying to share an external hard disk in the same computer with windows and linux.. what kind of filesystem should I use?
[03:44] <Atomizeus> now maximized stuff goes under heh
[03:44] <Warbo> [3XS] truthseek: fat32
[03:44] <donvella> zerium: lol its ok im watching it now
[03:44] <miweit00> [3XS] truthseek: Fat32
[03:44] <[3XS] truthseek> it can't support more than 4gb.. :-/
[03:44] <valehru> need to install the kernel-source
[03:44] <miweit00> ntfs would cause too many problems
[03:44] <donvella> zerium cool man
[03:44] <Warbo> [3XS] truthseek: windows can only use ntfs, fat, iso9660
[03:44] <zerium> donvella: thx, animation is painful
[03:44] <[3XS] truthseek> from windows, some ways to acces in rw reiser, ext, some others...?
[03:45] <miweit00> or you use an LinuxFS and a special driver for windows
[03:45] <HymnToLife> Warbo> there are plenty of ext drivers for Windows too
[03:45] <donvella> zerium: thats tight dude, you recommend doing a course on it? lol
[03:45] <valehru> need to install the kernel-source for a driver.  my architecture is 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 however in synaptic the only source available is 2.6.11
[03:45] <miweit00>   [3XS] truthseek: yes, but i am not too happy with them
[03:45] <[3XS] truthseek> I'm searching for linuxfs
[03:45] <miRaGe> I am using an Ubuntu live-cd in order to retrieve files off of an NTFS hard drive so that it can be transferred to an OSX based PC.  What is the easiest and most efficient method to do this??
[03:45] <valehru> is it ok to install it?
[03:45] <Warbo> HymnToLife: I know, but I have never used them so I don't know their reliability
[03:45] <[3XS] truthseek> damn.. :-/
[03:45] <donvella> I wish there was more linux usage in Australia
[03:46] <HymnToLife> Warbo> I have and I can tell you they're 100% safe
[03:46] <zerium> :donvella if thats what you want to try to do, just make sure they teach maya... usually you learn 3dsmax first and then maya
[03:46] <miweit00> it works, but it seems after i accessed the linux partition from windows thFilesystem has to be checked
[03:46] <squidgy> I use this to transparently access ext2 and ext3 filesystems on windows: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:46] <Warbo> miRaGe: I would save them to a USB stick or drive then plug that into OSX
[03:46] <donvella> zerium: at this course you pick maya or 3dsmax id rather maya
[03:46] <donvella> 14grand you do a diploma in screen
[03:46] <Smacky|Away> ncurseslib didn't help, I'm still getting the same damned error
[03:46] <donvella> cgc.com.au i think
[03:46] <zerium> :donvella yeah, good thing now is that there is an edu version of maya... wasn't when i went to school... had to pay $700 for a license
[03:47] <miRaGe> Warbo, I tried that, it only shows a small section of the files on the OSX machine (100/350mb)
[03:47] <JinRoh> anyone knows how can I play _wmv9_ videos from dapper in amd64?
[03:47] <squidgy> [3XS] truthseek:  I use this to transparently access ext2 and ext3 filesystems on windows: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:47] <donvella> zerium: i dont really care what i do as a job ay, i just no it better be doin somethin on a PC cos i got a bunch of useless information otherwise
[03:47] <zerium> :donvella you can sign up for the alias membership and download a learning dvd every month
[03:47] <orbin> JinRoh: have you asked in the dapper chanel?
[03:47] <donvella> zerium: i have the full version of maya 7, no complaints
[03:47] <Warbo> miRaGe: Oh, that's weird. Maybe format the USB drive in the OSX filesystem (if you can) cos I think Linux can use it fine
[03:47] <[3XS] truthseek> squidgy: thanks
[03:47] <JinRoh> yes, but Its the same for all the ubuntus
[03:47] <lew[ubuntu] > Is it possible to get the windows font 'arial' on my kubuntu system =D?
[03:47] <zerium> :donvella the membership is cheap compared to school
[03:48] <donvella> zerium: I was thinking for certificate more then anything
[03:48] <monomaniacpat> Has anyone heree used photoshop under wine?
[03:48] <Warbo> lew[ubuntu] : Just download it
[03:48] <donvella> zerium: I can learn anything i need for a job i dont care aslong as i get that job
[03:49] <donvella> Anyone here business minded at all?
[03:49] <zerium> :donvella you can check out gnomon or http://www.alias.com/glb/eng/community/silver_home.jsp
[03:49] <lew[ubuntu] > Warbo: I can get it off one of my windows installs, but where abouts do I put it?
[03:49] <Smacky_Wolf> errrrr... WTF is a .run pkg?
[03:49] <Warbo> lew[ubuntu] : Press crtl-L in Nautilus and go to fonts:// and put it in there
[03:49] <lew[ubuntu] > Thanks Warbo (again) =)
[03:49] <Warbo> lew[ubuntu] : You are aware that Arial is just an exact copy of LinoType's Helvetica aren't you?
[03:50] <smo> Smacky_Wolf: a shell script wrapped around a tarball.  the closest linux has to self-extracting archives
[03:50] <Smacky_Wolf> woot, found it,
[03:50] <Smacky_Wolf> thanks
[03:50] <lew[ubuntu] > Warbo: Nope, I had no idea =P
[03:50] <donvella> Warbo: lol
[03:50] <Warbo> lew[ubuntu] : There are loads of fonts ripped off by m$, not least their new one for vista
[03:50] <monomaniacpat> Does anyone know what the last version of photoshop to work under windows 98 wasx?
[03:50] <ikonia> !seen ansic
[03:50] <ubotu> ansic <n=user@host-84-221-130-205.cust-adsl.tiscali.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 9h 46m 16s ago, saying: 'someone can help me?'.
[03:50] <BeLinux> AnsiC (n=user@host-84-221-130-205.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) was last seen quitting from #Ubuntu 8 hours, 14 minutes ago stating ({"Sto} andando via\").
[03:50] <squidgy> Is there a trick to getting OpenType (.OTF) fonts to work in Breezy?  I've tried installing the new Consolas font, but no love.
[03:51] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[03:51] <PrimoTurbo> Is there anyway to extract a rar file in Linux?
[03:51] <Smacky_Wolf> craaappp... are the kernel header files on the CD perchance?
[03:51] <monomaniacpat> !seen monomaniacpat
[03:51] <ubotu> monomaniacpat is currently on #ubuntu (3m 23s)
[03:51] <BeLinux> monomaniacpat, idiota...
[03:51] <squidgy> PrimoTurbo: unrar
[03:51] <Warbo> PrimoTurbo: Install rar package or unrar package
[03:51] <monomaniacpat> that's fun
[03:51] <PrimoTurbo> I see
[03:51] <squidgy> PrimoTurbo: unrar x your_rar_file
[03:51] <Warbo> PrimoTurbo: I think you need universe
[03:52] <Warbo> PrimoTurbo: After it is installed file-roller uses it (the GNOME extracting thingy)
[03:52] <squidgy> EasyUbuntu installs unrar, and a bunch of other good stuff.
[03:52] <PrimoTurbo> unrar-nonfree? or rar
[03:52] <PrimoTurbo> or unrar-free
[03:52] <donvella> Warbo: you just sit here and soak up information daily? lol
[03:53] <PrimoTurbo> any idea which is the correct one?
[03:53] <Warbo> donvella: I come in here while waiting for stuff (like my CD to compress today) then I test it, it fails and I am just left with the chat room
[03:53] <Warbo> PrimoTurbo: They will all work
[03:54] <Warbo> PrimoTurbo: I just don't think that the free one can compress, or something
[03:54] <PrimoTurbo> ahh non-free can extract the newer 3.0 version
[03:54] <PrimoTurbo> anyways thanks for your help I got the file extracted
[03:54] <squidgy> PrimoTurbo:  It looks like the EasyUbuntu script installs unrar-nonfree
[03:54] <PrimoTurbo> yeah I just installed that works good
[03:55] <lew[ubuntu] > Warbo: Ermm, I can't seem to find Nautilus, is it a KDE app?
[03:55] <donvella> Warbo: general question for you, I want to back up my data on a DVDRW i have, now on linux do i just pop that cd in, drag and drop?
[03:55] <zerium> hi folks can anyone help me by telling me which services i can shutdown on startup?
[03:55] <orbin> lew[ubuntu] : no.  it's gnome's file mgr
[03:55] <Warbo> lew[ubuntu] : Nautilus is the GNOME file manager. Go on "Home" and voila!
[03:55] <zerium> (running a server)
[03:55] <mjr> donvella, basically, yes, it should work that way
[03:55] <donvella> zerium: i have a good load of information for you.
[03:55] <Warbo> donvella: I think so. Nautilus can do it, but I don;t have a dvdrw drive so I've never tested
[03:55] <mjr> donvella, I haven't personally tried Nautilus' DVD burning capabilities though
[03:56] <PrimoTurbo> zerium: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Speed_up_boot
[03:56] <bearhugx> skroeder
[03:56] <lew[ubuntu] > Warbo: I'm using KDE though :P how do i get to the font dir in Konquerer?
[03:56] <PrimoTurbo> To be honest I disabled a lot of stuff I really don't need but I don't feel any real difference
[03:56] <zerium> I'm trying to get the memory usage down
[03:56] <Warbo> lew[ubuntu] : The control centre has a nice font installer in it
[03:56] <donvella> zerium: Yep PrimoTurbo is onto it lol
[03:56] <lew[ubuntu] > Warbo: Cheers =D
[03:57] <zerium> i also tried running this command and it is failing for some reason
[03:57] <Warbo> lew[ubuntu] : I actually used to use that method in GNOME, until I learned about fonts://
[03:57] <donvella> zerium: Follow exactly what that web page says and youl be fine
[03:57] <PrimoTurbo> There is also InitNG but I haven't done it myself yet, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Reduce_boot
[03:57] <zerium> sudo update-rc.d lighttpd start 2345 stop 016
[03:57] <zerium> update-rc.d: error: expected NN after start
[03:57] <zerium> sudo update-rc.d lighttpd start 2345 stop 016
[03:57] <zerium> update-rc.d: error: expected NN after start
[03:57] <zerium> sudo update-rc.d lighttpd start 2345 stop 016
[03:57] <zerium> update-rc.d: error: expected NN after start
[03:57] <zerium> ack sorry
[03:57] <donvella> mjr: so you dont need to format the disc first?
[03:57] <Warbo> Anyway, I'm off to get some Newgrounds experience for the day
[03:57] <donvella> zerium: whats with lighttd? lol
[03:58] <lew[ubuntu] > Nooo don't leave Warbo /cry
[03:58] <zerium> lighttpd is a webserver
[03:58] <squidgy> I have a module question:  I downloaded and built the RTL8180 kernel modules for my wireless card.  I can install the modules manually with an included script, but I want them to be installed automatically on boot.  How?
[03:58] <Smacky_Wolf> Is there anyway I can kill X off to install something?
[03:58] <donvella> yeh
[03:58] <sskroeder> hi there ... anybody knows how to repartition a harddisk - without destroying the data on the disk ... I just realized that the automatic partitioning under install of Ubuntu have inserted a 4 GiB padding/buffer in between all my partitions on my 40 GB drive ...
[03:58] <donvella> should be alt-F1 ay?
[03:59] <mjr> donvella, it should happen automatically for virgin DVD+RW discs, I think
[03:59] <Smacky_Wolf> donvella, nope.
[03:59] <Smacky_Wolf> that just opens a vterm
[03:59] <zerium> brb
[03:59] <Smacky_Wolf> i need to actually kill x
[04:00] <donvella> well then login to your console
[04:00] <huraxprax> strg+alt+f1 switches to a console, strg+alt+backsp kills you current x session
[04:00] <donvella> huraxprax: whats strg?
[04:00] <huraxprax> or do /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:00] <huraxprax> ctrl i mean
[04:00] <huraxprax> (stupid german keyboard)
[04:01] <PrimoTurbo> Has anyone seen the new 911 movie? United 93 I think it's called?
[04:01] <Smacky_Wolf> it didn't kill it
[04:01] <squidgy> Smacky_Wolf: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:02] <Smacky_Wolf> woo, thanks <3
[04:02] <Tyggerbob> anyone here using fglrx with ubuntu?
[04:02] <PrimoTurbo> I am
[04:02] <PrimoTurbo> for my 9700 Pro
[04:02] <Smacky_Wolf> wth. it still says I have x running.
[04:02] <squidgy> Anyone here know how to configure which kernel modules are loaded on boot?
[04:03] <Tyggerbob> PrimoTurbo, when I was using Gentoo, there was an eselect command to switch from Mesa to ATI OpenGL
[04:03] <PrimoTurbo> I get half the fps in Tremelous compared to Windows
[04:03] <hurax> some other problem, i have a mainboard with integrated nvidia graphics
[04:03] <Tyggerbob> do I have to do something similiar
[04:03] <Tyggerbob> ?
[04:03] <PrimoTurbo> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:03] <PrimoTurbo> replace ati with fglrx
[04:03] <PrimoTurbo> restart x
[04:03] <hurax> the nv x-server doesn't start, vesa can't do higher resolutions than 1024x768
[04:03] <PrimoTurbo> I don't know the command but there is probally one
[04:03] <Smacky_Wolf> hurax: I get that, too
[04:04] <hurax> i first installed the nividia server from ubuntu repositories which crashes the machine on start
[04:04] <hurax> nvidia
[04:04] <Smacky_Wolf> I;m trying to install the drivers they gave me, but it's bitching at me about running X
[04:04] <HymnToLife> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart X
[04:04] <sskroeder> is there any program like partitionmagic for linux ... a program where i can repartition a harddisk- without having to erase all the data...
[04:04] <PrimoTurbo> for me ctrl/alt/backspace shut's down X not restart's it
[04:04] <hurax> now i installed the drivers from the nvidia site, they work but it crashes the computer when switching to a console
[04:04] <HymnToLife> funny
[04:04] <Tyggerbob> brb
[04:05] <HymnToLife> well, you can still restart it manually
[04:05] <Smacky_Wolf> x will not die.
[04:05] <Smacky_Wolf> wtf.
[04:05] <HymnToLife> sskroeder> GParted
[04:06] <_jason> Smacky_Wolf: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[04:06] <hurax> have you stopped it by "/etc/init.d/gdm stop"?
[04:06] <sskroeder> HymnToLife, ok .. i'll check that out
[04:07] <Smacky_Wolf> I did.
[04:07] <Smacky_Wolf> and it says it's dead
[04:07] <Smacky_Wolf> buttt
[04:07] <_jason> Smacky_Wolf: did you do ctrl-alt-backspace then?
[04:07] <Smacky_Wolf> damn it *restarts*
[04:07] <Smacky_Wolf> I did.
[04:07] <_jason> go back to stabbing it I guess
[04:07] <Smacky_Wolf> XD
[04:08] <PrimoTurbo> Does anyone know what UseInternalAGPGART means it's in my xorg?..
[04:08] <Toran> Is there any easy way to run a command in linux that would display current bandwidth usage on a network device?
[04:08] <hurax> perhaps you're using another display manager, try kdm and xdm instead of gdm
[04:10] <Smacky_Wolf> i restarted and went into bootstrap
[04:10] <Smacky_Wolf> FFS. How can I get kernel headers on dialup?
[04:10] <squidgy> Toran: try this: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/02/24/2033234
[04:11] <serp> is there a more proper way of installing a library than building it and copying it manually to /usr/lib ?
[04:11] <robaman> why is not mysql-dfsg-5.0 (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/) in the breezy backports Packages file?
[04:11] <babo>  (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 127.0.0.1:80
[04:11] <babo>  no listening sockets available, shutting down
[04:11] <Toran> squidgy: I was thinking something more along the lines of just returning a number to represent an upstream or downstream speed
[04:11] <Dutchy> hello, it seems that when I boot my computer Ubuntu automatically turns Numlock off, is it possible to make it turn Numlock on?
[04:11] <Blippe> serp, apt-get or synaptic should be better
[04:11] <robaman> serp: copying it to /usr/local/lib :)
[04:12] <_jason> serp: using the repositories?
[04:12] <babo>  why won't my apache start ?
[04:12] <PrimoTurbo> What the fglrxgears command?
[04:12] <robaman> babo: you have something else listening on port 80 maybe, try looking with 'lsof -iTCP'
[04:13] <serp> well.. the library doesnt exist in the repositories
[04:13] <Mi1> afternoon
[04:13] <squidgy> Toran:  Hmmm...I don't know of any that'll just spit out a number.  Here's another BW monitor: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/iftop/
[04:14] <Mi1> anyone free to answer a question about Breezy badger on a laptop ?
[04:14] <ompaul> !helpme
[04:14] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[04:15] <Smacky_Wolf> Mi1, what sort of a lappie?
[04:15] <Mi1> my laptop reboot and started a file system check, it totally borked and instructed me to do the fsck manually but I can't because I don't have the root password is there anyway round this
[04:15] <don> How can I get ubuntu to run .smil files
[04:15] <ompaul> Mi1 okay first off did you set a root password?
[04:15] <Mi1> nope, it's not my lappie
[04:16] <ompaul> Mi1 is that nope, I did not set one, or nope I did not set one because it belongs to someone else?
[04:17] <stoffer> Hi there, WHAT a mess. I just reinstalled Ubuntu freshly because I ran into some error that I couldnt solve. Ubunto told me, that kernel had been updated - and I needed to reboot, so I did. When ubuntu start screen had finished and it was supposed to go to the login screen, it said my interface graphic was wrong in some way (named something with a capital X). What was that?
[04:17] <Lenny1729> hi, is there a way to make that during boot up certain modules aren't loaded?
[04:17] <Mi1> No the laptop doesn't have a root password, it was someone else's who built it and they never set it
[04:17] <orbin> stoffer: what video card do you have?
[04:18] <stoffer> Nividia Geforce FX go xxxx
[04:18] <ompaul> Mi1, okay then you should be able to press escape as the machine boots up and get into the "rescue menu" and run "fsck -y" from there
[04:18] <Kejk_PL> stoffer: probably kernel module for your graphic card was not loaded. There was no need to reinstall
[04:18] <Blippe> what is the diff between pitfdll and w32codecs?
[04:18] <stoffer> Well, I am a linux noob, I had to reinstall to get back here!
[04:18] <orbin> stoffer: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf | tail -1
[04:18] <Mi1> rescue menu ?? I have tried that and all it offers is a safe boot mode
[04:19] <Kejk_PL> stoffer: you could login in text mode and fix it :)
[04:19] <ompaul> Mi1, it should offer rescue, someone may have thought "I won't need that entry" if that is the case then you better get a live CD and use fsck on the device from there
[04:19] <Dulin> Hi
[04:20] <stoffer> Kejk_PL: I DID bloody login. But as I said, for what reason, I diddnt know what do type!
[04:20] <Mi1> ok I will download the liveCD and try that
[04:20] <Dutchy> hmmm either you missed it, or no1 knew, or it was a dumb question, hope you dont mind if i repeat
[04:20] <Dutchy> hello, it seems that when I boot my computer Ubuntu automatically turns Numlock off, is it possible to make it turn Numlock on?
[04:20] <Mi1> thanks OMPAUL
[04:20] <orbin> stoffer: run that command please
[04:20] <stoffer> Now I know you are very helpful, but know I am an absolute noob at this.
[04:20] <ompaul> stoffer, remember the steps >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< from eariler, you need those
[04:20] <ompaul> orbin, he reinstalled
[04:20] <stoffer> Orbin: I did.
[04:21] <orbin> stoffer: what did it return?
[04:21] <ompaul> stoffer, back to the nvidia web page on the wiki
[04:21] <ompaul> !tell stoffer about nvidia
[04:21] <stoffer> orbin: I closed the terminal
[04:21] <stoffer> Thank you ompaul
[04:21] <ompaul> stoffer, this time maybe you should update before you do nvidia?
[04:21] <stoffer> But if I follow the steps again, will it happen once more?
[04:21] <Smacky_Wolf> !tell Smacky_Wolf about nvidia
[04:21] <stoffer> Yeah, it gives me the same message now (before I install nivdia) that I should boot
[04:21] <stoffer> so I will try
[04:22] <ompaul> stoffer, okay stop a second
[04:22] <stoffer> Should it fuck up - what do I type to save my self?
[04:22] <kingspawn> Smacky_Wolf: You can even query the bot and ask everything in there, without the !'s
[04:22] <ompaul> !language
[04:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:22] <Smacky_Wolf> yeah, I was lazy =/
[04:22] <kingspawn> hehe :)
[04:22] <ompaul> stoffer, okay, now follow the steps this way - 1 do the upgrade
[04:22] <stoffer> ok then
[04:22] <ompaul> stoffer, then 2 do the nvidia
[04:23] <ompaul> stoffer, reboot after the upgrade
[04:23] <Smacky_Wolf> I made friends with ubotu a while back... <
[04:23] <Smacky_Wolf> 3
[04:23] <stoffer> I upgraded all Ubunto siggested
[04:23] <stoffer> Havent rebooted yet - shall I do this
[04:23] <marcus> hi. I am currently in the Drapper Flight 7 live cd and try to figure out if the graphical installer supports raid at all or if I have to use the text installer.  anything known about that?  I have set up mdX devices manually, but the installer only sees hard drive partitions.
[04:23] <Felly> Hi, I just installed MonoDevelop on Ubuntu but I can't seen to create a Gnome# project. Anybody who has an idea what i should do ?
[04:23] <ompaul> stoffer, WHEN you upgrade the kernel you must reconfigure your GUI or xserver to give it its correct name
[04:23] <stoffer> Ok. guide me!
[04:23] <stoffer> (thanks)
[04:24] <ompaul> stoffer, the command is and write this down >>> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<< and choose the driver
[04:24] <stoffer>  *writing down
[04:25] <stoffer> and I shall do this before I boot?
[04:25] <ompaul> stoffer, nvidia-glx and that gets you running once you have followed the nvidia instructions
[04:26] <ompaul> stoffer, you can try but it is okay at the command line - black screen you log in username and password and type the command
[04:26] <stoffer> Ok, slow now. Should I update nvidia driver before I type the reconfigure in the terminal?
[04:26] <Smacky_Wolf> Erfles, I did the whole restarting X thing after enabling nvidia-glx-config, but it broke stuffs
[04:26] <ompaul> stoffer, you have the wrong end of the stick so pause a moment
[04:26] <Cryptid> !torrent
[04:26] <ubotu> Cryptid: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:26] <stoffer> The line is supposed typed when I get the black screen after boot?
[04:26] <R1CHARD> good day
[04:26] <R1CHARD> someone compiled CURL ?
[04:27] <Cryptid> Which is the best torrent client available for Linux apart from azureus????????????????????
[04:27] <ompaul> stoffer, route to happiness :-) tell ompaul if you have already done the updates since your upgrade
[04:27] <Seantater> Cryptid: I prefer ktorrent
[04:27] <ompaul> Cryptid, matter of opinion given the amount of question marks and the cycle of the moon who knows -- I use the one in gnome
[04:27] <stoffer> What I have done: 1) Freshly installed 2)Updated all suggested by Ubuntu 3) Went here
[04:28] <_jason> R1CHARD: what problem are you having?
[04:28] <Cryptid> I want a torrent client equalent t Mu-torrent or bitcomet of windows
[04:28] <R1CHARD> I couldn't compile CURL, because the dependences bring some much problems
[04:28] <Dutchy> I want a million dollars
[04:29] <ompaul> stoffer, okay reboot then go to the nvidia webpage write this down   >>/msg ubotu nvidia<< use that when you come back intothe channel and the bot will give you the URL - if you have registered one moment until I check
[04:29] <violet> i need to get my winmodem but do not have any access right to the /etc/udev/rules.d/
[04:29] <Dutchy> -_-
[04:29] <_jason> R1CHARD: you know curl is in the repositories? why compile?
[04:29] <R1CHARD> _jason, http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/curl
[04:29] <ompaul> stoffer, you need to change your nickname there is already one of them registered on the network - the way to do this is
[04:29] <R1CHARD> this
[04:29] <ompaul> !tell stoffer about register
[04:29] <Cryptid> Can some one help me COnfigure my Internet on nUbuntu please?????????????????????
[04:29] <Cryptid> !nUbuntu
[04:29] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Cryptid
[04:29] <_jason> R1CHARD: what are you trying to tell me?
[04:30] <Smacky_Wolf> Cryptid: What are you, 12?
[04:30] <violet> can some 1 help me config my lucent win modem ?
[04:30] <stoffer> Ok, but what if I cant come back here after boot?
[04:30] <Cryptid> Smacky_Wolf, 11 actually
[04:30] <ompaul> !patience
[04:30] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[04:30] <R1CHARD> my root problem is  locales, and this llib say me: The  minimal-base make a conflict
[04:30] <Smacky_Wolf> Try not so many question marks.
[04:30] <ompaul> stoffer, you will be able to you can read this web page if you want: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia copy it down
[04:30] <R1CHARD> I need to upgrade locales
[04:31] <NoUse> !tell violet about winmodem
[04:31] <_jason> R1CHARD: do you mind putting the command that generated that error as well as the error itself on a pastebin?  pastebin url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:32] <stoffer> ok, written down
[04:32] <Smacky_Wolf> Stoffer: I;m having the same problem ads you
[04:32] <Smacky_Wolf> :(
[04:32] <stoffer> 1) Boot - 2) go to the webpage and install nvidia driver 3)?
[04:32] <Standy> ubuntu needs driver for usbwlan - Chipset: ZyDAS ZD1211
[04:32] <stoffer> smacky_wolf: It sucks ):
[04:32] <orbin> i've got a conf file that is chmodded 644.  a tutorial states to chmod it 600 to protect the pswd inside, but if i do that, the app can't start (conf file read error).  is 644 safe enough?
[04:33] <slackern> stoffer: you can use irssi from the commandline also to connect to irc and chat.
[04:33] <Smacky_Wolf> how did you fix it? reinstall? XD I did the first time
[04:33] <_jason> orbin: well anyone can read it
[04:33] <R1CHARD> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13704
[04:33] <stoffer> I am just worried I wont get back here - and then I will have to freshly install again. How do I use Irssi?
[04:33] <orbin> _jason: that's what i'm worried about...although i'm the sole user on the computer.
[04:33] <indotel> hi
[04:34] <_jason> R1CHARD: why are you installing that with a .deb file?  Do you know about apt-get and synaptic?
[04:34] <imonkey> hello, i used fluxbox for a while and in there it was possible to let xterm 'remember its position' is this also possible whit gnome?
[04:34] <stoffer> ompaul: Besides, you said something about that I HAD to config my kernel before I booted?
[04:34] <ompaul> stoffer, install it command line "sudo apt-get install irssi"
[04:34] <slackern> stoffer: hmm easiest to do in irssi is to start it, type /server irc.freenode.net, then /join ubuntu
[04:34] <imonkey> ompaul: iirc irssi is installed int he base?
[04:35] <imonkey> s/he/the/
[04:35] <ompaul> imonkey, no idea
[04:35] <indotel> what do you think about ubuntu ?
[04:35] <ompaul> !info irssi
[04:35] <slackern> stoffer: :oh you might have to type /nick stoffer also to change nick, not 100% sure about that though.
[04:35] <imonkey> !irssi
[04:35] <ubotu> I heard irssi is http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[04:35] <HymnToLife> indotel> it totally sucks
[04:35] <HymnToLife> that's why we're using it :p
[04:35] <stoffer> Well Ompual, can I safely reboot now? I diddnt config anything yet
[04:35] <kenzi_> guys, how i can change domainname ?
[04:36] <HymnToLife> kenzi_> gksudo network-admin
[04:36] <_jason> orbin: well basically anything on your computer can read it... That means other programs too
[04:36] <ompaul> stoffer, imo yes, if I understand you have installed and done an update and have not yet touched the nvidia yet
[04:36] <stoffer> excactly
[04:36] <R1CHARD> _jason, Yes I know about apt-get and synaptic, but my problem isn't that
[04:36] <indotel> i like slackware 10.2 but i'm use ubuntu
[04:36] <kenzi_> thanx
[04:36] <indotel> now
[04:36] <ompaul> stoffer, choose a new nick name - and register it but that is for later
[04:37] <orbin> _jason: what do you suggest?  it's basically the logon client for my isp.
[04:37] <_jason> R1CHARD: what is the problem?  you can get curl through apt, and I'm not sure why you want to install this deb package
[04:37] <orbin> _jason: or should i even be worried about it?
[04:37] <srecko2> suddenly I got problem with repositories, is server shut down or what? I get message that it's unable to connect to ...
[04:38] <HymnToLife> srecko2> which server ?
[04:38] <R1CHARD> my first error is the dependence if libc6, and this dependences make a cycle of dependences
[04:38] <tatters> join linuxhelp
[04:38] <indotel> somebody know how can i install lilo again ?
[04:38] <srecko2> stndard ubuntu repositores (default)
[04:39] <R1CHARD> but the problem is the  locales, and this generate another problem with minimal-base
[04:39] <Smacky_Wolf> err. how do I saveas in vim?
[04:39] <ompaul> indotel, we don't do lilo we tend to use grub
[04:39] <stoffer> Ok, I safely rebooted
[04:39] <ompaul> Smacky_Wolf, :w foo.bar
[04:39] <stoffer> Now I install the nvidia driver?
[04:39] <srecko2> ahh sorry just need to update :)
[04:39] <Smacky_Wolf> kk thanks
[04:39] <indotel> ok
[04:39] <_jason> R1CHARD: paste the first error then please
[04:39] <HymnToLife> srecko2> archive.ubuntu.com works fine here
[04:39] <RyanTMulligan> Is the evdev protocol screwed up in Dapper?
[04:39] <hurax> indotel: /sbin/lilo if you're in the system from where you installed it
[04:39] <HymnToLife> lol
[04:39] <ompaul> stoffer, yes, please loose that nickname - you did not register it
[04:40] <ompaul> !dapper
[04:40] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:40] <ompaul> RyanTMulligan, ^^^^
[04:40] <RyanTMulligan> thank you
[04:40] <orbin> imonkey: you need to use the -geometry option.  don't ask me how though
[04:40] <ompaul> yw
[04:40] <stoffer> I couldnt find the nich change guide
[04:40] <stoffer> sec
[04:40] <srecko2> my connectio (cable) was down when started ubuntu this morning so until I updated it was reptorting to me that it is unable to connect
[04:40] <stofferdk> There
[04:41] <_jason> orbin: depends on how paranoid you are... maybe the file needs certain ownership?
[04:41] <stofferdk> ompaul: What was the command line for registering this nick once again?
[04:41] <ompaul> stofferdk, okay now do this >>/msg nickersev register YOURCHOICEOFPASSWORDHERE <<
[04:41] <ompaul> stofferdk, chill I am one step ahead of you
[04:41] <orbin> _jason: nvm, i'll just risk it. thanks. :)
[04:41] <ompaul> stofferdk, then you need to identify to the network
[04:41] <stofferdk> ompaul: done
[04:42] <ompaul> stofferdk, okay now do this >>/msg nickersev identify YOURCHOICEOFPASSWORDHERE<<
[04:42] <ompaul> stofferdk, now you can msg the bot do this >>>/msg ubotu nvidia<< the bot will answer you with the url you want
[04:42] <stofferdk> nothing happenend
[04:42] <ompaul> -NickServ- The nickname [stofferdk]  is not registered
[04:43] <ompaul> stofferdk, your not doing it right
[04:43] <stofferdk> I dont understand, I typed excactly what you asked me
[04:43] <ompaul> stofferdk, between the arrows >>/msg nickersev register YOURCHOICEOFPASSWORDHERE <<
[04:43] <ompaul> say when done
[04:43] <stofferdk> Done
[04:43] <_jason> ompaul: you have a typo :)
[04:43] <ompaul> _jason, tell us
[04:44] <_jason> nickserv
[04:44] <ompaul> arrrrrrrr
[04:44] <stofferdk> lol
[04:44] <stofferdk> Was is the correct?
[04:44] <ompaul> stofferdk, between the arrows >>/msg nickeserv register YOURCHOICEOFPASSWORDHERE <<
[04:44] <ompaul> wrong
[04:44] <ompaul> stofferdk, between the arrows >>/msg nickserv register YOURCHOICEOFPASSWORDHERE <<
[04:44] <R1CHARD> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13705
[04:44] <stofferdk> done
[04:44] <ompaul> stofferdk, no that last one - only that last one
[04:45] <stofferdk> Now, done!
[04:45] <_jason> R1CHARD: ok, now do this: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list                  and then copy and paste the contents of that file and put it on pastebin
[04:45] <ompaul> -NickServ-            Nickname: stofferdk << ONLINE >> -NickServ-          Registered: 6 seconds ago
[04:45] <ompaul> stofferdk, now lastly between the arrows >>/msg nickserv identify YOURCHOICEOFPASSWORDHERE <<
[04:45] <R1CHARD> _jason, can you give a mirror from where I can found this libraries and dependences?
[04:46] <stofferdk> I did identify already (:
[04:46] <_jason> R1CHARD: yes, I can tell you what to put in your sources.list if you show me your current one
[04:46] <ompaul> stofferdk actually you did  or you would not be online (doh)
[04:46] <stofferdk> Now, I am at the guide for nvidia. I will install the driver now - and be back when done ok?
[04:46] <Smacky_Wolf> stofferdk, is your video builtin?
[04:46] <ompaul> stofferdk, you got it
[04:47] <stofferdk> smacky_wolf: I am at a laptop
[04:47] <Smacky_Wolf> Hrm XD
[04:47] <Smacky_Wolf> What breed?
[04:47] <ompaul> Smacky_Wolf, he got it working a couple of hours ago - so its not an issue
[04:47] <Smacky_Wolf> I want to know how to fix mine =/
[04:47] <ompaul> Smacky_Wolf, read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:47] <ompaul> Smacky_Wolf, that is how it is done from start to finish
[04:48] <Smacky_Wolf> I can't compile binaries because I don't have the kernelheaders, and can;t get them :)
[04:48] <R1CHARD> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13706
[04:48] <Smacky_Wolf> and when I do that, it crashes and I have to reconf xorg
[04:49] <imonkey> atm there only is a 'rtorrent package' for dapper but i was wondering if i could install that on breezy to?
[04:50] <R1CHARD> the base-config is the root of my problems of compile the curl's dependences
[04:50] <_jason> R1CHARD: ok, there are a few problems with your current one.  I am going to give you a new one to replace it.  First, 'cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup'  then 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'.  Once gedit opens, delete _everything_ in the file so that it is blank.
[04:51] <_jason> R1CHARD: then, you will copy what is on this site: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 and put it into your sourcs.list.  Then save the file.  Finally, do this command, 'sudo apt-get update'.  Then try to install curl again
[04:52] <R1CHARD> I'll make that
[04:52] <defcon8> how do i install a single deb?
[04:52] <_jason> R1CHARD: ok, let me know how it goes
[04:52] <_jason> !deb
[04:52] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[04:52] <defcon8> thanks
[04:52] <R1CHARD> ok
[04:53] <Whoopie> Hi, how could I get a LF+CR with notify-send? Somthing like "notify-send "text1" "text2\ntext3"" doesn't work.
[04:53] <jack> try \r\n
[04:54] <voraistos> hey people, i just come for a few sec to tell u autoinstall flash in firefox is working now ! No need to f*ck around as usual ;)
[04:56] <Whoopie> jack: doesn't work. I believe, notify-send ignores all \
[04:56] <PrimoTurbo> Can someone please help me with this -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=998251#post998251
[04:57] <stofferdk> Hello there ompaul! Nvidia succesfully installed - ubuntu booted
[04:57] <paradizelost> PrimoTurbo: sorry, not something i'd be any good at.
[04:59] <ompaul> stofferdk, do me a favour and follow the instructions I had the bot send you, they will make your life easy, or you will be asking us within the hour for it
[04:59] <ompaul> :P
[04:59] <stofferdk> But I couldnt figure out what to do with them
[04:59] <ompaul> stofferdk, join me in #12345687s
[05:00] <ompaul> click on that link
[05:00] <ompaul> stofferdk, just click on #1234567s
[05:01] <bigmoe> can someone tell me how to change the external ip of my linux server and if there is a program that could update ip regularly?
[05:01] <lew[ubuntu] > Can someone explain to me why Adept Manager sometimes won't upgrade a package because it would break an install?
[05:02] <voraistos> why changing the IP of a server ?
[05:02] <paradizelost> bigmoe: why would you need to update the IP regularly?
[05:02] <NoUse> bigmoe do you get assigned an IP from your ISP?
[05:02] <paradizelost> lew[ubuntu] : well, breaking an install would be a bad thing...
[05:02] <lew[ubuntu] > paradizelost: What does it mean to break an install?
[05:03] <voraistos> lew[ubuntu] : screw your system ;)
[05:03] <NoUse> lew[ubuntu]  run sudo apt-get upgrade in the console and see what packages its complaining about, you can pastebin the output if you'd like us to take a look at it
[05:03] <lew[ubuntu] > voraistos: I don't understand how upgrading a package can break something else :S
[05:04] <voraistos> me neither :(
[05:04] <lew[ubuntu] > NoUse: sure, will do :)
[05:04] <R1CHARD> _jason, now, the uninstall of the dependents of base-config, for example, minimal-base exhort to uninstall, to delete, I don't desseare that
[05:04] <paradizelost> lew[ubuntu] : to make the install no longer work.
[05:04] <_jason> R1CHARD: what?
[05:04] <paradizelost> lew[ubuntu] : it could install something that a different program requires a different version of
[05:05] <R1CHARD> 1389 packages to unistall
[05:05] <kenzi> how i can check syslog ?
[05:05] <voraistos> I was wondering, lots of softs are available for Win Mac, and no Linux. But mac is unix based. is there a soft like wine, but for mac?
[05:05] <_jason> R1CHARD: pastebin this please.  Have you been using unofficial repositories?
[05:05] <R1CHARD> xserver-xorg-*
[05:05] <lew[ubuntu] > NoUse: I'm not sure if this is what you wanted; The following packages have been kept back:
[05:05] <lew[ubuntu] >   gstreamer0.8-faac gstreamer0.8-faad gstreamer0.8-lame gstreamer0.8-xvid
[05:05] <lew[ubuntu] >   libfaac0 libfaad2-0
[05:05] <NoUse> lew[ubuntu]  you need to enable universe and multiverse
[05:05] <R1CHARD> _jason, all the xserver-org-* archives
[05:05] <NoUse> !tell lew[ubuntu]  about repos
[05:06] <lew[ubuntu] > NoUse: Cheers, I'll check it out
[05:06] <NoUse> voraistos not really, but many linux apps are ported to Mac
[05:06] <_jason> R1CHARD: show me please, that should be happening if you have been using official repositories
[05:06] <_jason> shouldn't*
[05:07] <voraistos> NoUse: yep, but what i want is the contrary :( thank you anyway :)
[05:07] <lew[ubuntu] > This is the package in quesion btw 'gstreamer0.8-xvid'. I was hoping it would fix my problem of not having sound when playing xvid encoded videos :/
[05:08] <R1CHARD> hum
[05:09] <NoUse> voraistos you might start seeing some options as Mac moves to Intel, because before you not only had to emulatre the grpahics API for mac but also the PowerPC chip
[05:10] <voraistos> NoUse: yep, but there is mac software which does already that. it emulates PPC processors on intel machines. they already sell intel machines
[05:12] <Blippe> "Totem could not startup. Could not open resource for writing." - how do i fix it?
[05:13] <NoUse> voraistos but its not open source, so we can't use it
[05:13] <voraistos> yes, but we can make an equivalent ;) just like for everything else ;)
[05:13] <NoUse> voraistos sure, start coding :-)
[05:14] <voraistos> yea, it will be done in  years ;)
[05:14] <NoUse> voraistos honestly, I'd rather see Linux developers work on make our open source applications better then apending time allowing closed source Mac apps to run on linux
[05:14] <maximaus> Blippe, make sure you haven't used up your disk space. In a terminal run "df -h"
[05:14] <voraistos> i am no programmer, so i dont complain, but i think a soft like that would be cool.
[05:15] <Blippe> maximaus, it is about 15G avail
[05:15] <opapo> Has anyone here been certified in any distro of linux
[05:15] <voraistos> NoUse: what about macromedia products? they are kind of standards( like flash, or others), and the linux versions are always crap ?!
[05:15] <F0LL0W3R> how to install firefox active x plugins ?
[05:16] <NoUse> voraistos go to #ubuntu-offtopic to continue this
[05:16] <voraistos> i thougt activex was an iexplore thing ?
[05:16] <maximaus> Blippe, it actually sounds like you have another program that's grabbed the sound card.
[05:16] <paradizelost> F0LL0W3R: firefox doesn't have activex
[05:16] <F0LL0W3R> paradizelost Hmmm
[05:16] <paradizelost> it's an IE SCREWUP!
[05:16] <paradizelost> :DE
[05:16] <Smacky_Wolf> maybe I should just try Mandrake or something.. Ubuntu hates me :(
[05:16] <Syco54645> when trying to compile the newest xmame with opengl support, it fails.  i am assuming it is because i am missing some headers.  what would it be (i mean pertaining to opengl). i cannot find them in apt at all
[05:16] <F0LL0W3R> paradizelost Okay Thanks loll
[05:17] <paradizelost> F0LL0W3R: if you really need activex stuff, install IE w/ wine
[05:17] <maximaus> Blippe, run "gnome-system-monitor" and see if there's a hidden process grabbing the card, and also see if "esd" is running.
[05:17] <F0LL0W3R> paradizelost yea should i do that now
[05:17] <maximaus> Blippe, esd is the sound-daemon.
[05:17] <F0LL0W3R> paradizelost :) Thanks for your help
[05:17] <voraistos> smacky-wolf: mandrake sucks. what is your problem ?
[05:17] <JinRoh> Hello, why apt-get doesn't work in my chroot??
[05:18] <F0LL0W3R> seems JinRoh u don't start it with sudo first
[05:18] <RayFredPip> hello~is there any picture shootcut tool which can cut pictures with any size at will ?
[05:18] <Blippe> esd is not running, and vlc does work when i start it
[05:19] <Smacky_Wolf> voraistos, I can't get my sound or video working at all on my internet connection. I need to get kernel headers to do that and there's no possible way
[05:19] <F0LL0W3R> !kernel
[05:19] <voraistos> smacky_wolf: what do u mean?
[05:20] <voraistos> video and sound/ internet connection ?!
[05:20] <Smacky_Wolf> to compile the nvidia sound and video for my pc, I need to get the kernel headers
[05:20] <Smacky_Wolf> I'm on dialup, and I can't download them anywhere else
[05:20] <voraistos> yeah.
[05:20] <zeasier> has any one every gotten templates to work with nautilus?
[05:20] <oxigen> what is the name of the program 'run as a different user' which i had on breezy under applications and now is gone?
[05:20] <RayFredPip> is there any picture shootcut tool which can cut pictures with any size at will ?
[05:21] <voraistos> smacky_wolf: i dunno how the dial up thing works. so u need to connect internet, and then dl the thing to get xorg working, etc ?
[05:21] <Smacky_Wolf> errr
[05:21] <Smacky_Wolf> I CAN'T dl them.
[05:21] <evert> does ekiga supports 'just out of the box' to call to a windows msn user (like adress@hotmail.com ) ?
[05:21] <evert> because that won't work
[05:22] <Smacky_Wolf> it would take me three days, and i can't be connected that long, and >___<
[05:22] <voraistos> smacky_wolf: use first a standard driver for that to get xserver working
[05:22] <Smacky_Wolf> it kinda does
[05:22] <kingspawn> Smacky_Wolf: go to an internet cafe, download them, and burn them to a disc.
[05:22] <Smacky_Wolf> it's a brand new PC, and I refuse to run windows.
[05:22] <voraistos> smacky_wolf: good idea.
[05:22] <Smacky_Wolf> there isn't one in my shitty backwards burgh
[05:23] <kingspawn> haha
[05:23] <Smacky_Wolf> fucking country >(
[05:23] <kingspawn> Smacky_Wolf: only option left: move.
[05:23] <Smacky_Wolf> god I hate australia sometimes.
[05:23] <R1CHARD> _jason, is reccomendably that I'll uninstall this archives (xserver-xorg-*) and after I'll reinstall this archives with this repositories ?
[05:23] <zeasier> or open you're own cafe
[05:23] <idefix> what's an eml-file and how do you open it?
[05:23] <Smacky_Wolf> or succumb and get XP
[05:23] <kingspawn> Well, take comfort in your kangaroos
[05:23] <Smacky_Wolf> :'(
[05:23] <voraistos> smacky_wolf: with a bad internet connection, u wont be able to do anything.
[05:23] <evert> does ekiga supports 'just out of the box' to call to a windows msn user (like adress@hotmail.com ) ?
[05:24] <_jason> R1CHARD: no, I'm not sure that is a good idea.  Can you put what it says on pastebin?
[05:24] <Smacky_Wolf> i want my PC to work. it's shiny and I've been waiting with it there for 4 weeks... only just managed to get a PSU that would work today
[05:24] <zeasier> so does anyone use nautiluses template feature?
[05:24] <voraistos> smacky_wolf: get a direct connection to satellite ;) or some fiber optic
[05:24] <Smacky_Wolf> hahhahahahah fibre optic? Here?
[05:24] <Smacky_Wolf> XD
[05:25] <voraistos> smacky_wolf: just download the damn drivers, even if it is for  days .......
[05:25] <Smacky_Wolf> I can't... we need the damn phone
[05:25] <kingspawn> Smacky_Wolf: wget them, it resumes
[05:25] <zeasier> Smacky_Wolf: do it at night
[05:25] <paradizelost> Smacky_Wolf: you could order the CD's from the site...
[05:25] <Smacky_Wolf> paradizelost I have them
[05:25] <Smacky_Wolf> already
[05:26] <voraistos> smacky_wolf: just dont use computer anymore if u dont have electrecity ;)
[05:26] <Smacky_Wolf> there's always teh dreaded MS
[05:26] <idefix> what's an eml-file and how do you open it?
[05:26] <Smacky_Wolf> eml is email, I think
[05:26] <R1CHARD> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13707
[05:27] <paradizelost> idefix: an .eml is an email file, usually from outlook express
[05:27] <idefix> paradizelost someone sent me an eml file in an email but all there's in it is a bunch of letters
[05:27] <paradizelost> idefix: that means they forwarded as attachment
[05:27] <paradizelost> :D
[05:27] <voraistos> virus maybe ?
[05:28] <Smacky_Wolf> Hrm, Slackware, LFS, Trustix, SUSE, and debian.
[05:28] <evert> can somebody help me with that ekiga problem pls ?
[05:28] <Smacky_Wolf> Would the debian kernel headers be any good, maybe?
[05:29] <evert> i really need to call with linux somebody who's using windows
[05:29] <voraistos> i dont think so .......
[05:29] <_jason> R1CHARD: interesting.. aptitude seems to be going wacky.  What does apt-get install propose?
[05:29] <Smacky_Wolf> evert: I;m in win
[05:29] <_jason> R1CHARD: (use -s to be safe)
[05:29] <Smacky_Wolf> evert: sort of =/
[05:29] <idefix> paradizelost but what do I do with it? how can I open it?
[05:30] <R1CHARD> oh noooooooooooooooo
[05:30] <hegemon> anyone heard what the telecoms(AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, etc.. are trying to do to the Internet?
[05:30] <R1CHARD> my system can broken
[05:30] <shinu> couldnt anyone do df -h |grep shm and paste the output for me please?
[05:30] <_jason> R1CHARD: huh?
[05:30] <paradizelost> idefix: try a text editor
[05:30] <R1CHARD> the same message:
[05:30] <voraistos> smacky_wolf: maybe with the ubuntu DVD u will have it !
[05:30] <R1CHARD> with  -f
[05:30] <NoUse> hegemon old news :-) but also offtopic try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <Sp4rKy> pleaese, what's the link which explain how create a deb file ?
[05:30] <evert> sry i quited it par accident
[05:31] <_jason> Sp4rKy: the real way, or just for yourself?
[05:31] <Smacky_Wolf> The ubunut DVD is just all of the different architectures, and Kubuntu, and edubuntu
[05:31] <hegemon> NoUse, WELL have you do your part in preventing this abomination,
[05:31] <hegemon> ?
[05:31] <idefix> IQgBCEIAQhCAEIQgBCEIAQhCAEIQgBCEIAQhCAEIQgBCEI
[05:31] <idefix> AQhCAEIQgBCEIAQhCAEIQgBCEIAQhCAEIQgBCEIAQhCAEIQgBCEIAQhCAEIQgBCEIAQhCAEIQgBC
[05:31] <idefix> EIAQhCAEIQgBCEIAQhRXNzRs7d1e4eGU2RqceWYUNpK2CVCx29quEkgGu5su05pnHn6KNna/hD65
[05:31] <idefix> p95VDR/3DSOn9/os+9j/AHInSzcQsVnazhD2FxrvYQQNLq
[05:31] <Sp4rKy> _jason, the real way
[05:31] <NoUse> Sp4rKy search the wiki
[05:31] <Smacky_Wolf> BSOD screensaver ftw.
[05:31] <voraistos> smackywolf: u not lucky boy
[05:31] <NoUse> hegemon wirtten my congressman twice
[05:31] <hegemon> K
[05:31] <voraistos> get debian 14 CDs
[05:31] <Smacky_Wolf> I have a number of them
[05:31] <_jason> Sp4rKy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[05:32] <NoUse> !tell idefix about flood
[05:32] <R1CHARD> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13708
[05:32] <evert> how can i call with ekiga to a windows user (he uses mns) i just fill in his email in the field (like sip:adres@hotmail.com) but then ekiga can't make connection with im
[05:32] <R1CHARD> OMG!
[05:32] <R1CHARD> Is the end of my system
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[05:32] <hegemon> Every one visit http://action.freepress.net/campaign/savethenet and demand Network Neutrality be codified into binding law for which any violation brings serious penalties. Thank You....
[05:32] <Smacky_Wolf> Is this something to do with the purple smoke theort, R1CHARD?
[05:32] <idefix> paradizelost neway, that's what I get when opening the eml with a texteditor
[05:32] <AkiraYuki> Ciao a tutti
[05:32] <R1CHARD> and now?
[05:33] <dooki1> hi all
[05:33] <_jason> !info base-files
[05:33] <ubotu> base-files: (Debian base system miscellaneous files), section base, is required. Version: 3.1.5ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 364 kB
[05:33] <_jason> R1CHARD: tell me, what does 'apt-cache policy base-files | grep -i installed' say?
[05:34] <dooki1> How can i teach thunderbird to open hyperlinks in firefox instead of Mozilla? All other applications use firfox as default-browser. I am using Ubuntu Dapper
[05:34] <_jason> !dapper
[05:34] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[05:34] <opapo> I want to know about which linux certification I should go with.  Is anyone here certified?
[05:35] <R1CHARD> _jason, nothing
[05:35] <_jason> R1CHARD: can't be nothing
[05:35] <NoUse> opapo I'd say most are a waste, why do you want to get certified?
[05:36] <_jason> R1CHARD: oh wait, yes it can because your system is spanish :)  What does 'apt-cache policy base-files' say?
[05:36] <opapo> NoUse: I am getting started with Fedora (a couple months now) and have had a lot of problems that I couldn't fix
[05:37] <opapo> I would like to get training on a distro and be able to troubleshoot, and administer those boxes
[05:37] <Smacky_Wolf> Mmm, vanilla.
[05:37] <NoUse> opapo you realized certifcation often costs over $1000 USD?
[05:37] <Ng> opapo: in my experience, the best way to do that is to just install and break as many times as you can
[05:38] <floydwilde> LPI certs look the best to me
[05:38] <Ng> certification is next to useless
[05:38] <R1CHARD> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13712
[05:38] <opapo> NoUse my organization is willing to foot the bill.
[05:38] <Ng> you will never get a deep understanding of the OS
[05:38] <_jason> R1CHARD: hmm
[05:38] <NoUse> opapo I've I guess youd' want LPI, I've heard the RHCE is really difficult
[05:39] <floydwilde> LPI tests are not expensive
[05:39] <opapo> I don't have time to "install and break."  I need to know what to do immediately after it breaks
[05:39] <opapo> If not before
[05:39] <opapo> NoUse:  I have a book for LPI. I will use that as well as a training on linux
[05:40] <Ng> opapo: what happens if it breaks in a way your multiple choice based certification didn't quite bother to cover? ;)
[05:40] <Ng> I tell you the best way to be a good sysadmin is to spend a lot of years doing it
[05:40] <evert> can somebody help me pls with ekiga ?
[05:40] <opapo> Ng: I don't have years
[05:40] <opapo> I think that a one week training is at least a first step
[05:40] <R1CHARD> I Won't shutdown my computer, because won't PowerOnn
[05:41] <Ng> opapo: then perhaps you shouldn't be being a sysadmin right now, but this is all rather off-topic for in here ;)
[05:41] <R1CHARD> is the most probably
[05:41] <pedro_> ola
[05:41] <R1CHARD> ola pedro_
[05:41] <opapo> Ng: I am a sysadmin now.
[05:41] <_jason> R1CHARD: ? nothing has happened to your system.  You can just use the backup sources.list and you will be in the same trouble you were before but apt won't want to remove all your packages
[05:41] <pedro_> donde ere
[05:42] <sebastian_> hola
[05:42] <R1CHARD> but, If I don't remove this pachakes, I can't install more packacges
[05:42] <pedro_> ola sebastian
[05:42] <R1CHARD> all packages give this message
[05:42] <R1CHARD> all apt-get install
[05:42] <R1CHARD> I will die
[05:42] <pedro_> k te kuenta
[05:42] <R1CHARD> pedro_, de Peru
[05:43] <R1CHARD> hola se
[05:43] <_jason> R1CHARD: well you did something with outside repos to get into this state.  I don't know exactly what.  Do you recall using some outside repositories to install something?
[05:43] <evert> can somebody give his ekiga adres , to do a very short test , to see or i can connect to other users ? Then i know the problem is with the msn adres and not with Ekiga
[05:43] <pedro_> kuanto ao tienes
[05:43] <R1CHARD> hum; now I use your repositories
[05:43] <_jason> !es
[05:43] <ompaul> _jason, or some helping applcation
[05:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:44] <pedro_> ola
[05:44] <R1CHARD> pedro_, creo que te dijeron: no hables en espaol aki
[05:45] <pedro_> porke
[05:45] <_jason> ompaul: after I gave R1CHARD an official sources.list, aptitude wants to do this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13707  any ideas?
[05:45] <ompaul> just a mo
[05:45] <Jemt> Can anyone help me make Apache reachable from another computer on the same network? I have added 'Listen 192.168.1.10:8080' to /etc/apache2/ports.conf and opened port 8080 in my firewall. Is that sufficient?
[05:45] <Jemt> Well, obviously it is not. I can't access the web server
[05:45] <ompaul> _jason, dapper?
[05:45] <majd> !engage
[05:45] <ubotu> majd: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:46] <_jason> ompaul: breezy
[05:46] <slackern> Jemt: have you restarted apache after the changes?
[05:46] <majd> do you guys know of an easy to follow tutorial to install r17's engage?
[05:46] <Jemt> slackern: Yep
[05:46] <ompaul> _jason, it looks at tad over the top
[05:46] <_jason> ompaul: at least that's what his old sources said
[05:46] <ompaul> _jason, cat /etc/issue
[05:46] <slackern> Jemt: and take notice that you can't try it from your local machine, you needs something outside the firewall to test the portforwarding.
[05:46] <_jason> R1CHARD: try what ompaul just said and tell us ^
[05:47] <slackern> Jemt: the only thing you can try is http://localhost:8080 in firefox
[05:47] <pedro_> ola zedas
[05:47] <Jemt> slackern: That's how I do
[05:47] <R1CHARD> ok
[05:47] <Jemt> slackern: The two computers are on the same network (connected to the same router)
[05:47] <R1CHARD> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[05:47] <Jemt> slackern: I can ping the webserver
[05:47] <R1CHARD> ompaul, this is the message
[05:48] <slackern> Jemt: but not connect to it?
[05:48] <Jemt> slackern: Nope
[05:48] <ompaul> R1CHARD, I see it, and find a 2gig download a bit much
[05:48] <pedro_> k pasa nadie cnt
[05:48] <_jason> ompaul: it wants to free 2gigs by removing those packages I believe
[05:48] <paradizelost> well, i'm installing dapper at the moment, any big glitches i should know about?
[05:48] <Jemt> Maybe I havn't configured the firewall correctly - even though I doubt that's the problem
[05:48] <R1CHARD> pedro_, si hablas en espaol aki no t responderan
[05:49] <italy> hi all
[05:49] <slackern> Jemt: hmm strange all i had to do was to have 2 rows in /etc/apache/ports.conf line 1:Listen 80 and line 2: Listen 8080 and it worked.
[05:49] <cg> i install gem success!,thank u for all help!
[05:49] <valehru> Having problems install azureus: heres the console output...any ideas>?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13713
[05:49] <italy> when I try to access my /mnt/windows, it says Permission denied: Read-only access
[05:49] <johndoe> how can i find out that my onboard sound is recognized by the system?
[05:49] <ompaul> paradizelost, you should be in the channel #ubuntu+1 that is the dapper channel
[05:49] <pedro_> xk no cnt ningun espao
[05:49] <Jemt> slackern: Well, I have 'Listen 192.168.1.10:8080'
[05:49] <italy> it's NTFS
[05:49] <ompaul> !es
[05:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:50] <Jemt> slackern: I'll try removing the IP
[05:50] <slackern> Jemt: yeah try that.
[05:50] <NoUse> italy you can't write to ntfs in ubuntu
[05:50] <cg> i must down zlib first, then recompile ruby on ubuntu.
[05:50] <italy> NoUse, i understand thsi
[05:50] <italy> NoUse, i need to backup data.
[05:51] <NoUse> italy so you want to back the data on tfs up the your linux partition?
[05:51] <slackern> Jemt: im running dapper myself and apache2, are you using apache1 or 2?
[05:51] <valehru> any ideas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13713
[05:51] <valehru> ?
[05:51] <italy> NoUse, I want to back it up to my iPod.
[05:51] <Jemt> slackern: Didn't help much
[05:51] <Jemt> slackern: Breezy, Apache 2
[05:51] <pedro_> hello
[05:51] <NoUse> italy so you can't read the data on your ntfs drive?
[05:51] <slackern> try to copy my /etc/apache/ports.conf i'll put it on pastebin in a sec
[05:52] <slackern> !pastebin
[05:52] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:52] <italy> NoUse, I can't access /mnt/windows
[05:52] <Jemt> slackern: Thanks, I'll try that
[05:52] <italy> bash: cd: /mnt/windows/: Permission denied
[05:52] <stofferdk> ompaul: Done.
[05:52] <majd> do you guys know of an easy to follow tutorial to install r17's engage?
[05:52] <majd> *e17
[05:53] <ompaul> stofferdk, enjoy your new found freedom
[05:53] <slackern> Jemt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13714 this is how mine looks i use 80 internally since i can only access 8080 from my isp.
[05:53] <NoUse> italy run gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:53] <Jemt> slackern: Great, checking
[05:53] <ompaul> yw
[05:53] <_jason> R1CHARD: tell me what this says: apt-cache policy libc6
[05:53] <noelia> hola
[05:53] <Jemt> slackern: Exactly the same my file contains
[05:53] <noelia> no eres espaol eres una nia o un nio
[05:54] <noelia> hola
[05:54] <selinium> !es
[05:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:54] <italy> NoUse, ok
[05:54] <NoUse> italy you should see a lin with /mnt/windows in it, is there a umask option there?
[05:54] <slackern> Jemt: hmm very strange can you pm me with the correct ip and port  so i can try from outside the firewall?
[05:54] <stofferdk> Ompaul: One last thing. How do I make myself superuser. My terminal says I am not
[05:55] <foldingstock> su
[05:55] <hastesaver> how do I find out which package a particular font was installed from?
[05:55] <foldingstock> or sudo
[05:55] <slackern> Jemt: If portforwarding is in use now that is.
[05:55] <Jemt> slackern: I'm behind a public network which dosn't allow incomming connections - unfortunately
[05:55] <slackern> Jemt: ahh ok.
[05:55] <_jason> hastesaver: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[05:55] <Smacky|Away> vim 7 was released O:
[05:55] <Jemt> slackern: I think the first step must be to determine whether port 8080 is actually open or not
[05:55] <slackern> Jemt: You restarted apache after the changes too? 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart'
[05:55] <noelia> coo hola
[05:55] <slackern> !es
[05:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:55] <Jemt> slackern: I'm installing nmap now - hopefully I can run it from the server itself
[05:55] <hastesaver> _jason, thanks
[05:55] <italy> NoUse, i don't see anything.
[05:55] <Jemt> slackern: Yep, I did
[05:56] <pedro_> ola noelia
[05:56] <stofferdk> Why does my terminal sudden say I need super user privilegde?
[05:56] <NoUse> italy you don't see a line with /mnt/windows or ou don' tsee the umask option?
[05:56] <ompaul> stofferdk, you do not do that
[05:56] <noelia> ola queaces
[05:56] <slackern> Jemt: hmm very strange, i've set up apache 2 times now and that was all i ever had to do, except adding a portforward on my firewall.
[05:56] <ompaul> stofferdk, what you do is read this page wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:56] <italy> nope NoUse
[05:56] <slackern> Jemt: But maybe theres a difference between breezy and dapper.
[05:56] <R1CHARD> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13715
[05:56] <italy> just: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0
[05:56] <italy> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[05:56] <dried> need help in restoring synaptic and notifier files in /usr/sbin
[05:56] <stofferdk> Il check it out, thanks
[05:57] <Jemt> slackern: NMap : 8080/tcp  open  http-proxy
[05:57] <noelia> padrod
[05:57] <R1CHARD> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13715
[05:57] <Jemt> slackern: I doubt it. Hm, this is really odd
[05:57] <pedro_> k te kuenta
[05:57] <noelia> pedro donde estas
[05:57] <slackern> Jemt: and http://192.168.1.10:8080 from another pc doesn't work or http://192.168.1.10 ?
[05:57] <oxigen> what do i need to install to have 'run as a different user' again??!!
[05:57] <Jemt> slackern: Nope
[05:57] <pedro_> en  mi kasa
[05:57] <ompaul> **** notice **** we do not offer su we offer sudo by default root is disabled in Ubuntu - what you do in place of that is say: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo thanks :-)
[05:58] <pedro_> noelia y tu donde etas
[05:58] <ompaul> pedro_, #ubuntu-es
[05:58] <slackern> Jemt: but http://localhost and http://localhost:8080 works?
[05:58] <Jemt> Yep
[05:58] <pedro_> cnt noelia
[05:58] <Jemt> slackern: Yep
[05:58] <R1CHARD> noelia, pedro_ >>> existe #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[05:58] <stofferdk> How did I get xlibs again?
[05:59] <italy> I added it.
[05:59] <_jason> Is it possible to find out where a package was installed from?  (how?)
[05:59] <italy> what do I add for umask NoUse
[05:59] <italy> /dev/hda1               /mnt/WinXP              ntfs    ro,defaults     0 0 is the entry I added
[05:59] <ompaul> R1CHARD, thanks, can you tell them that if they want to stay they must speak english in this channel
[05:59] <oxigen> what do i need to install to have 'run as a different user' again??!!
[05:59] <_jason> R1CHARD: see your current version of libc6 is higher than what is in breezy.  Do you remember anything about that?
[05:59] <stofferdk> How did I get xlibs again?
[05:59] <slackern> Jemt: Im starting to wonder if there is some rule in breezy that limits access to localhost only as defaults.
[06:00] <ompaul> R1CHARD, where ever you were pointing your machine it was not friendly to you
[06:00] <R1CHARD> ompaul, ok
[06:00] <Jemt> slackern: Uhm, dunno. 'tracert 192.168.1.10' from the Windows computer works fine. But that not on port 8080
[06:00] <R1CHARD> only today
[06:00] <oxigen> what do i need to install to have 'run as a different user' again??!!
[06:00] <Jemt> slackern: I'll try port 80
[06:00] <ompaul> R1CHARD, thats wierd
[06:00] <noelia> yo en mi casa y tu
[06:00] <noelia> hola richard
[06:00] <noelia> no te entiendo
[06:00] <svdp12> does anyone know how to install a game from a cd rom. I'm trying to install Morrowind, but can't figure it out.
[06:01] <stofferdk> Hi, how did I get xlibs again?
[06:01] <pedro_> kuenta algo noelia
[06:01] <noelia>  no se tu primero
[06:02] <stofferdk> Please- what was the line for getting xlibs again
[06:02] <_jason> R1CHARD: have you used automatix?
[06:02] <selinium> svdp12, Morrowind. Is it a linux game?
[06:02] <R1CHARD> noelia, te decia que aqui debes hablar estrictamente en ingles
[06:03] <R1CHARD> el canal en espaol es #ubuntu-es
[06:03] <ompaul> thanks R1CHARD
[06:03] <noelia> no no se
[06:04] <noelia> ya pero
[06:04] <valehru> svdp12, I installed morrowind last night with winex perfectly
[06:04] <GTX> I run ubuntu server and I think it might be hacked, is there a group which exists in ubuntu called "nogroup" ? I can see it in /etc/groups "nogroup:x:65534:"
[06:04] <stofferdk> What is the line for getting xlibs again?
[06:04] <valehru> its playing around 30FPS...
[06:04] <valehru> stofferdk, sudo apt-get install xlibs
[06:05] <svdp12> I bought it. It works on Windows so I hoped it would work, but I don't know ANYTHING about Linux/Ubuntu
[06:05] <selinium> R1CHARD, Cheers for your spanish!
[06:05] <valehru> svdp12, either install wine or buy a subscription for winex/cedega http://www.transgaming.com
[06:05] <svdp12> Valehru, How did you do that?
[06:05] <valehru> its a windows emulator
[06:05] <Smacky|Away> I do believe I give up :(
[06:05] <Jemt> slackern: Hey, I got it to work!
[06:05] <valehru> read the wiki for cedega svdp12
[06:06] <hastesaver> GTX, yes, there is a group called nogroup. Some apps use that to give things very little permission or something like that. Nothing to worry
[06:06] <slackern> Jemt: oh nice, what was it that fixed it?
[06:06] <selinium> svdp12, there are some great MMORPG for linux and they are free! take a look at www.eternal-lands.com
[06:06] <carlos-the-man> I upgraded to breezy, and then all keyboard input is blank! only the space key seems to work OK and at KDM I type a user name and all I see is empty squares! how can I fix this?
[06:06] <Smacky_Wolf> night all
[06:06] <svdp12> thanks
[06:06] <Jemt> slackern: I'm using Firestarter as my firewall. I just allowed access by Anyone on port 80. I will now try to improve the security a little if I can :)
[06:06] <carlos-the-man> btw consoles wotk ok so I can see the web sith lynx and BitchX to you ;)
[06:06] <R1CHARD> oh selinium ; I'm a spanish speaker
[06:06] <Jemt> by anyone = from anyone
[06:07] <slackern> Jemt: oh hehe.
[06:07] <carlos-the-man> RICHARD I am bilingual ;)
[06:07] <selinium> is there a list where I can check if an app is available in 64bit? before upgading to dapper64 when it arrives...
[06:07] <pablo_> which shold be the default permisions in /etc/skel ?
[06:07] <_jason> selinium: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:07] <pablo_> i did a mess whit them
[06:07] <Jemt> slackern: Well, thanks alot - I really appriciate all the help I can get :)
[06:07] <selinium> _jason, cheers and Hi! :)
[06:08] <_jason> R1CHARD: I noticed this line in your old sources.list: ``#deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/ ./ ## created by arniewinechanged'', does that mean you used a program to help install stuff?
[06:08] <majd> can i install engage but not enlightenment?
[06:09] <majd> can i install engage but not enlightenment?
[06:11] <frfx> i have messed up my /etc/network/interfaces. now i must go to system > network each time and activate eth0.how can i do this automaticly?
[06:11] <_jason> R1CHARD: ok, new question.  DId you ever try to upgrade to dapper by using dapper repos?
[06:11] <sampan> is it normal for the screen application to show up as a second logged in user?  i.e., when i type "users" (in terminal) before running screen, i see just one instance of my user name, but if i type users after running screen, it shows me twice ... that 'normal'?
[06:11] <R1CHARD> Now, I try to do this
[06:11] <ompaul> R1CHARD, _jason that repo now only points to dapper resources by redirection
[06:12] <hastesaver> Why does all of openoffice.org2 depend on ttf-opensymbol? I want to remove that font :(
[06:12] <_jason> ompaul: which one?
[06:12] <ompaul> _jason, try that http cut off the tail and go back to the root of it
[06:12] <ompaul> madness
[06:13] <ompaul> _jason, then go to downloads
[06:14] <svdp12> do you know if wine works well? I don't have the money for a subscription right now. So should I get wine or wait until I can subscribe to Cedega
[06:15] <_jason> ompaul: goes to the Listen site for you too?
[06:15] <spikeb> svdp12: you can find that out via www.winehq.org
[06:15] <NoUse> svdp12 it depends on the program you are trying to run
[06:16] <imc_> Problems with resume after suspend and no one in the dapper room can help. Can anyone talk me through so troubleshooting to figure out why I crash on resume on my HP nc4200?
[06:16] <imc_> Sleep / awake works fine
[06:16] <_jason> R1CHARD: did you install any deb's you downloaded for libc6?
[06:16] <ompaul> _jason, yes
[06:16] <svdp12> thanks
[06:17] <slackern> sleep/resume doesn't work on this machine either, but it's a regular pc that i slipped an AMD Athlon XP-M processor into which is made for laptops :)
[06:17] <R1CHARD> _jason, I installed libc6 from a .deb package
[06:17] <R1CHARD> but for Ubuntu
[06:17] <imc_> Well, that's another issue but it *did* work until it did not
[06:17] <_jason> R1CHARD: you used dapper right?
[06:18] <maria_> maria gunios runios una su nika parios una
[06:18] <R1CHARD> yes
[06:18] <_jason> !info locales
[06:18] <ubotu> locales: (GNU C Library: National Language (locale) data [support] ), section base, is important. Version: 2.3.5-1ubuntu12.5.10.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3963 kB, Installed size: 10584 kB
[06:18] <R1CHARD> but, I overwirte this breeze?
[06:19] <_jason> R1CHARD: you realize you are using breezy?  Yes, that is why apt wants to remove everything in your system now.  How many deb's did you install this way?
[06:19] <maria_> maria tunios una funios hija nika nos junos
[06:19] <imc_> !es
[06:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:19] <R1CHARD> ubotu, this isn't spanish
[06:19] <ubotu> R1CHARD: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:20] <_jason> R1CHARD: ubotu is just a robot
[06:20] <oxigen> what do i need to install to have 'run as a different user' again??!!
[06:20] <R1CHARD> Oh! lol
[06:21] <raboof> ha, nice. looks like ubuntu's bluetooth support beats windows XP :)
[06:22] <_jason> R1CHARD: do you remember all of the ones you installed?  was it a lot?
[06:22] <stofferdk> Hi there, I successfully installed cedega and inserted WOW disc 1 - how do I make it run?
[06:23] <hastesaver> !wow
[06:23] <ubotu> methinks wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[06:23] <hastesaver> stofferdk, sorry, ignore that
[06:23] <domingez> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:23] <domingez> hay alguiennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn?
[06:24] <MisterN> hi
[06:24] <stofferdk> Anyone, how do I install games with cedega?
[06:24] <paradizelost> run the cedega installer.
[06:25] <stofferdk> I am in cedega now
[06:25] <tahorg> mmh, anyone's getting probleme with png and dapper ?
[06:25] <stofferdk> I just cant figure out how to make cedega run the cd
[06:26] <_jason> R1CHARD: ok I have to go now.  But you understand now that you messed up your system by install dapper packages on breezy.  They way I see it, you may be able to downgrade all of those packages easily if you can remember them all, otherwise you may want to attempt a dist-upgrade to dapper after backing up your files.  good luck
[06:26] <hastesaver> stofferdk, you can try #cedega, but I've heard there's usually no one on that channel
[06:27] <hastesaver> stofferdk, have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega ? Maybe it has something useful (or do /msg ubotu cedega )
[06:27] <stofferdk> thank you
[06:29] <ikonia> a/join #technical
[06:30] <lilin> what is this?
[06:31] <axisme> topic says it all really
[06:31] <brandon_> is there linux software that deals with creating billing invoives based on time?
[06:33] <stofferdk> On what partition (default install) is it recommended I install games?
[06:33] <NoUse> stofferdk usually you put games in /opt, what are you installing?
[06:34] <stofferdk> WoW
[06:34] <NoUse> !tell stofferdk about wow
[06:35] <NoUse> stofferdk when running games through wine, the fake C: is in your home directory so thats where it goes anywya
[06:37] <NoUse> brandon_ you might look into gnotime
[06:37] <marius> heyhye
[06:38] <ashr> hi guys
[06:38] <ashr> how do i pass module parms in ubuntu ?
[06:38] <ashr> /etc/modprobe.d/aliases ?
[06:38] <marius> it's kind of hot here and my puter keeps shutting down 'cause of overheating... is there any way I can make it run at a more relaxed speed so it stays a bit cooler?
[06:39] <root_> hi
[06:39] <ashr> can't you set the clock speed in yer bios ?
[06:39] <SiriusA> hi, are those "Ign" messages normal? http://amarok.pastebin.com/707590
[06:39] <HymnToLife> SiriusA> yes
[06:40] <root_> why many thisngs stop working if i change permisions in /etc/skel?
[06:40] <HymnToLife> they mean the package list is the same than the one you have already downloaded
[06:40] <HymnToLife> so no need to download it again
[06:40] <root_> shouldnt this affect only new users?
[06:40] <SiriusA> HymnToLife, ah ok, but from the same repo, or from a different repo?
[06:40] <marius> ashr: yes, I wonder why I hadn't thought of that. Any way I can access that from the desktop? Or do I need to reboot and access it from there?
[06:40] <SiriusA> HymnToLife, because i want to force a speacial package from THIS repo
[06:40] <slackern> hmm anyone know of a nice rss software that is dockable in gnome?
[06:40] <ashr> dunno about desktop
[06:41] <soundray> root_, what stops working?
[06:41] <ashr> reboot :P
[06:41] <coon> i am new here
[06:41] <root_> fro example... users and group admin (GUI windows) from gnome
[06:42] <NoUse> coon just read the /topic for the ground rules
[06:42] <hastesaver> SiriusA, "ign" doesn't mean it's ignoring that repo, it only means it's now downloading the list of packages because it already has it
[06:42] <fuego> salut
[06:42] <SiriusA> HymnToLife, i also did an "apt-get clean" before updating, shouldt i then not get this ignores?
[06:42] <fuego> ya des francais ?
[06:42] <HymnToLife> !fr
[06:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:42] <slackern> !fr
[06:42] <fuego> ok merci
[06:43] <HymnToLife> slackern> u g0t pwn3d :p
[06:44] <brandon_> what about acounting software for linux?
[06:45] <root_> soundray: i did a mess wiht permisions under skel.. :( what should be the default permisions? and grp ownership under /etc/skel?
[06:47] <soundray> root_: they are all root.root. Files are 644, dirs are 755
[06:47] <hastesaver> How do I make apt never delete anything from the cache?
[06:47] <valehru> need to make a rule in the firewall in ubuntu
[06:48] <valehru> where is the firewall config?  can't see it in any menus
[06:48] <spikeb> i wasn't aware apt deleted things from the cache without being told to
[06:48] <hastesaver> spikeb, oh maybe it doesn't then. I don't know :)
[06:48] <spikeb> hastesaver: me either, for sure :)
[06:48] <Jimmey__> hastesaver, you need to apt-get clean to delete things from the cache
[06:49] <soundray> spikeb, hastesaver: it doesn't delete the cache spontaneously.
[06:49] <slackern> hastesaver: i belive dselect performs clean or if it was autoclean after it's done.
[06:49] <spikeb> didnt think so
[06:49] <soundray> valehru: you need to install a frontend, like firestarter. Look:
[06:49] <soundray> !firestarter
[06:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[06:49] <marius> heyhey, back, something went wrong.
[06:50] <root_> soundray: ok ive changed them but but when i try to load the GUI to admin users and gropus (from gnome) as root it says "password incorrect"! :(
[06:50] <root_> soundray: any idea?
[06:50] <marius> When turning down the speed in the BIOS, I should change the CPU speed down a bit right? It's now at 'auto'  and by that at '200 mHz'. Could I put it down to 180?
[06:50] <root_> soundray:  no no i made a mistake
[06:51] <soundray> root_: it wants your user password. Root is normally disabled in ubuntu
[06:51] <root_> soundray: no ive enebeld it logn ago (in x too)
[06:51] <soundray> marius: sure, if the BIOS lets you do that
[06:51] <root_> soundray: how do i selectively chmod -Rcv 644 /etc/skel/
[06:51] <root_>  only for dirs?
[06:52] <root_> sorry for files
[06:52] <root_> and 755 for dirs?
[06:52] <root_> soundray: i dont know the "mask" to apply to the command chmod -Rcv 644 /etc/skel/
[06:53] <Seveas> root_, chmod a+rX followed by chmod u+rwX
[06:53] <svdp12> I installed wine, but can't figure out how to use it. I'm really new to Linux/Ubuntu, so I don't know if Maybe I did something wrong or what.
[06:53] <Seveas> X instead of x means: only apply to dirs
[06:53] <Jimmey__> svdp12, usually through the command line. Like this: wine nameofexe.exe
[06:53] <max_> pasa
[06:53] <max_> hola
[06:53] <valehru> soundray, thanks
[06:53] <Jimmey__> !es
[06:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:54] <max_> kn ere
[06:54] <R1CHARD> _jason, I'm in a rescue mode
[06:54] <sigver> Hello, I can not get my microphone to record sound in ubuntu. Do you know how to fix this, or where I can look for answers?
[06:54] <marius> soundray: it does, I'm just afraid something terrible will happen like last time I tried to fix something by myself (I'm user Isyth from this morning, turns out my loopback interface was turned off??)
[06:55] <svdp12> where does stuff install. I go into the synaptic package manager and it says it's installed, but I can't find it in any of the system folders or anything.
[06:55] <Don_Rad> hi fellows
[06:55] <Blissex> sigver: perhaps.
[06:55] <Jimmey__> svdp12, what've you installed?
[06:55] <sigver> Blissex: wonderful :)
[06:55] <soundray> marius: a better fix would be to improve your cooling.
[06:55] <Don_Rad> anyone here speack spanish or maybe a channel who speak off?
[06:55] <Jimmey__> !es
[06:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:55] <Blissex> sigver: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#tasksRecord
[06:55] <Don_Rad> gracias ^^
[06:56] <sigver> Blissex: thanks
[06:56] <marius> soundray: yes, problem is my casing won't allow that at the right spot.
[06:56] <esas> ola
[06:56] <root_> soundray: so i should do.. : chown -Rc root:root /etc/skel/.*
[06:56] <root_>  | chmod -Rc a+rX /etc/skel/.* |  chmod -Rc u+rwX /etc/skel/.* ?
[06:56] <root_> soundray: is this correct?
[06:56] <root_> soundray. sorry im newbie in linux
[06:56] <svdp12> I just got this computer and the only thing I've installed on it is Wine. Which I downloaded to help me install a game I bought.
[06:57] <Luke> does anyone know how to install .el files in emacs? I want to get C# syntax highlighting from this: http://www.cybercom.net/~zbrad/DotNet/Emacs/
[06:57] <hastesaver> Luke, open the file, and do M-x eval-buffer
[06:57] <slackern> root_: I just noticed you are using the root account for irc also, it's nothing i would recommend, but just a tip.
[06:58] <Luke> hastesaver: thanks! =)
[06:58] <soundray> root_: listen to Seveas ^^
[06:58] <root_> slackern: ok thanks
[06:58] <Jimmey__> svdp12, wine's used through the command line.
[06:58] <hastesaver> Luke, for a more permanent solution, put something like (load-file "~/bin/elisp/php-mode.el")    (with the parenthesis)
[06:59] <hastesaver> Luke, in your .emacs, that is.
[06:59] <Luke> hastesaver: can I do a whole dir that way too?
[06:59] <jel> can someone help me repair my MBR
[06:59] <jel> ?
[06:59] <jel> the parititions are intact
[06:59] <jel> but kubuntu livecd installed botched it!
[06:59] <root_> soundray: helpme wiht the mess under /etc/skel and promise to no use xcaht under root! ;)
[06:59] <svdp12> I'm really sorry but I'm computer stupid and Linux stupid. I don't know how to find the command line and do anything.
[06:59] <jel> eeek my typing is shocking tonight
[06:59] <valehru> trying to install azareus but i get the following error in synaptic manager:
[06:59] <valehru> Package azureus has no available version, but exists in the database.
[07:00] <root_> soundray: talking serious.. yep i know is no good to use this under root
[07:00] <valehru> any help would be nice
[07:00] <hastesaver> Luke, sorry; I don't know. You can try it and see :)
[07:00] <Luke> hastesaver: its in a site-lisp dir, isnt there supposed to be some site-lisp global dir for the distro?
[07:00] <Jimmey__> svdp12, do you have a .exe that you'd like to run?
[07:00] <Luke> hastesaver: ah ok =) thanks for your help
[07:01] <svdp12> yeah my setup.exe on my morrowind CD rom
[07:01] <Jimmey__> jel, try typing "rescue" at a liveCD boot prompt. Then typing "grub-install (hd0)". Otherwise,
[07:01] <Jimmey__> !grub
[07:01] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:01] <Jimmey__> It's on the CD?
[07:01] <Jimmey__> svdp12?
[07:02] <soundray> root_: as root, run 'chmod -R a+rX /etc/skel ; chmod -R u+rwX /etc/skel'
[07:02] <svdp12> Yeah I bought Morrowind and I can copy the files onto my system, I just haven't ever used Linux and am realy confused.
[07:02] <frfx> svdp12: applications > then the 3rd option > terminal or something
[07:02] <Jimmey__> svdp12, try "cd /media/cdrom0; ls" in the command line. Tell me if it lists the files for Morrowind.
[07:03] <Jimmey__> svdp12, are you sure Morrowind's playable with wine?
[07:03] <Jimmey__> ubotu, tell svdp12 about wine
[07:04] <root_> soundray: done but the GUI for administering the users still pop ups and error about incorrect pass! :( (i usign root account in gnome)
[07:04] <spikeb> !frostwire
[07:04] <Speedator> hi
[07:04] <root_> soundray: should i reinstall? :(
[07:04] <carlos-the-man> I upgraded to breezy, and then all keyboard input is blank! only the space key seems to work OK and at KDM I type a user name and all I see is empty squares! how can I fix this?
[07:04] <UKMatt> does anyone know a site where I can check out xbuntu?
[07:04] <user__> hola
[07:05] <root_> soundray: i dondt wan to cause ive already configured all! a ltsp server is working in this machine
[07:05] <HymnToLife> !xubuntu
[07:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, xubuntu is Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[07:05] <Jimmey__> carlos-the-man, try ctrl+alt+f1. You'll be faced with a prompt. If you can type there, type "startx", and press enter.
[07:05] <user__> hola
[07:05] <Jimmey__> !es
[07:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:05] <HymnToLife> !es
[07:05] <soundray> root_, I don't know. There may be another fix. But it's easy to mess up your system like that if you're root all the time.
[07:05] <Jimmey__> HymnToLife, I beat you too it ;)
[07:06] <root_> soundray: ye i see :(
[07:06] <HymnToLife> I'll get you next time !!
[07:06] <Jimmey__> XoD
[07:06] <soundray> root_: It's probably not working because your root user is not in /etc/sudoers
[07:06] <soundray> root_, don't try to put it there, though, you'll just make things worse.
[07:06] <soundray> root_: log in as a normal user with admin rights, and use the menus from there.
[07:07] <carlos-the-man> Jimmey__ thanks! do you mind telling me the theory arround my problem and your suggestion?
[07:07] <user__> hola
[07:07] <carlos-the-man> hola
[07:07] <carlos-the-man> crayola
[07:07] <Jimmey__> carlos-the-man, there's different keyboard layouts available to the Xserver ( basically, it's the thing that gives you a graphical desktop ). If you can establish that it is a problem with X, and nothing else, then a reconfiguration might fix it
[07:08] <d2kx> hello
[07:08] <d2kx> anyone there?
[07:08] <user__> quien es carlos-the -man
[07:08] <Jimmey__> d2kx, about 754 people..
[07:08] <d2kx> i am german would be nice if a german or english could help me
[07:08] <Jimmey__> :P
[07:08] <d2kx> ^^
[07:08] <Jimmey__> !gr
[07:08] <ubotu> it has been said that gr is #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia ellhnes xrhstes
[07:08] <d2kx> so
[07:09] <specialbuddy> is there anyway to make my desktop icons smaller
[07:09] <root_> soundray: :( i tried but...  wow :(  it says gdm config missing... adn a few things work from the menues :(
[07:09] <carlos-the-man> Jimmey__ well the upgrade was yesterday, and I did try on F3, I can type correctly on the consoles but the problem persists once startx is executed :s
[07:09] <_jason> d2kx: english here, german is in:
[07:09] <NoUse> !de
[07:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[07:09] <_jason> NoUse: nice timing
[07:09] <specialbuddy> is there anyway to make my desktop icons smaller?
[07:09] <NoUse> _jason wish I could say I planned it  :-)
[07:09] <user__> hello
[07:09] <soundray> root_: I would reinstall. You can probably burn your ltsp stuff to a CD for backup.
[07:09] <d2kx> i got a ati radeon x1900 512mb and can't get it to work... i am not completely new to linux and the nvidia card runs ok but so does not the ati card. after booting theres always a black screen (kanotix gaves me a grey screen with mice)
[07:09] <specialbuddy> is there anyway to make my desktop icons smaller?
[07:09] <carlos-the-man> hello
[07:09] <Jimmey__> carlos-the-man, then try typing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and select the appropriate keyboard layout.
[07:10] <carlos-the-man> thanks! :D
[07:10] <soundray> specialbuddy: config option in nautilus
[07:10] <root_> soundray: ok thanks for all the help! ill take your advice!
[07:10] <svdp12> hey, you were helping me earlier and I got disconnected. I'm really confused and still need help getting morrowind to run
[07:10] <Jimmey__> specialbuddy, yep - right click on them, and click "stretch"
[07:10] <Trackilizer> I installed Frostwire using Automatix and it has been added to the "Internet" list, but for some strange reason it won't stat
[07:10] <user__> olles estas ya ivan }
[07:10] <specialbuddy> no
[07:10] <specialbuddy> an easier way
[07:10] <_jason> !automatix
[07:10] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:10] <Jimmey__> Trackilizer, try typing "frostwire" into a terminal
[07:10] <Trackilizer> Everytime i click on it, nothnig happens
[07:10] <specialbuddy> that way is hella dumb
[07:10] <ashr> specialbuddy, change your screen resolution
[07:11] <specialbuddy> I did but they are still too big
[07:11] <d2kx> there was a thread on the forums but no one knows sth. i think i'll have to wait one or two days for the new driver
[07:11] <specialbuddy> KDE lets you do it and it's easy
[07:11] <user__> hola
[07:11] <Trackilizer> track@erhard:~$ frostwire
[07:11] <Trackilizer> : command not found:
[07:11] <Trackilizer> : No such file or directory
[07:11] <Trackilizer> : command not found:
[07:11] <Trackilizer> : command not found3:
[07:11] <Trackilizer> 'unFrost.sh: line 24: syntax error near unexpected token `
[07:11] <Trackilizer> 'unFrost.sh: line 24: `look_for_java()
[07:11] <specialbuddy> but I dont't want KDE just to make the icons smaller
[07:11] <carlos-the-man> btw is there an easy way to configure xinerama for dual head?
[07:11] <NoUse> !paste
[07:11] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[07:11] <soundray> Trackilizer: read the /topic and don't paste
[07:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell Trackilizer about frostwire
[07:11] <user__> ivan contesta
[07:11] <carlos-the-man> pastebin.com
[07:12] <specialbuddy> there has to be an easier way to make the icons smaller
[07:12] <Jimmey__> specialbuddy, what's so hard about using the "stretch" method?
[07:12] <medialdesign> Is there a way I can create my own keyboard layout?  I got a US keyboard on my laptop, but i want to use it with a french layout.  The result is that I loose some keys such as <>.  Any software or tutorial that would explain how to do it??
[07:12] <carlos-the-man> specialbuddy you can always edit the ico files and shrink the image size and leave blank spaces arroun ;)
[07:12] <d2kx> right i have another question: will 6.06 fix the network connection bug? when i clicked on "administrator mode" in kubuntu's control center (since 5.04 heard that it should be fixed in 5.10 but wasn't) and typed the password it's all not working correctly
[07:12] <BazziR> medialdesign: you can use the "loadkeys" command
[07:13] <Jimmey__> medialdesign, you can use the French keyboard layout. I don't know off hand how to change it - let me check
[07:13] <Jimmey__> medialdesign, or that :P
[07:13] <BazziR> ubuntu has it in the system menu somewhere :/
[07:13] <specialbuddy> thanks for the suggestions but I think gnome needs to come up with an easier solution
[07:13] <medialdesign> ok... wich one would be the easiest and most effective??
[07:13] <BazziR> well edit it in the menu
[07:13] <Jimmey__> What he said :P
[07:13] <BazziR> that'll be the easiest
[07:13] <spikeb> i have an idea
[07:13] <spikeb> two actually
[07:13] <spikeb> hmm
[07:14] <carlos-the-man> medialdesign I have a 3 USD US keyboard, a 3 USD keyboard in dvorak and a 3 USD keyboard in spanish, I replace them as needed
[07:14] <specialbuddy> the easiest would be to set it up like KDE
[07:14] <specialbuddy> where you can pick a number of different sizes
[07:14] <Jimmey__> specialbuddy, so get to coding.
[07:14] <carlos-the-man> specialbuddy why dont you configure a KDE theme to look like GNOME and then shrink your icons in there? lol
[07:14] <Stork> is there any way to use a USB webcam in ubuntu?
[07:15] <medialdesign> carlos : yeah, I could do that, but I would better like to have a keyboard config that will have everything that I need at once :)
[07:15] <specialbuddy> that's still too much work
[07:15] <Jimmey__> !webcam
[07:15] <ubotu> hmm... webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv.
[07:15] <mkyb14> are there any cool gui apps for linux besides gkrellum ... like stardock for windows ... but for linux???
[07:15] <Stork> thanks jimmey
[07:15] <frfx> !nl
[07:15] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[07:15] <Jimmey__> What does stardock do?
[07:15] <carlos-the-man> I want a GUI dualhead config like mandrivas ;)
[07:15] <GreySim> mkyb14, gdesklets.
[07:15] <Jimmey__> Stork, you're welcome
[07:15] <medialdesign> stardock made Windows blinds and all the Desktop X suite
[07:15] <spikeb> amsn has webcam support already
[07:16] <mkyb14> lets you have a apple osx bar or modifyed windwos widgets etc... gdesklets isnt' that great either
[07:16] <Trackilizer> MY FAT32 was found and mounted properley, however i can only read but not write on it, how can this be changed??
[07:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell Trackilizer about vfat
[07:16] <_jason> Trackilizer: read the section on permissions in fstab on the wiki page ubotu has just linked you to
[07:16] <Jimmey__> mkyb14, use panels. Gnome can be made to look exactly like OSX.
[07:16] <Jimmey__> Edit the panels, and change the theme/icons
[07:16] <GreySim> Well, close anyway.
[07:17] <svdp12> can anyone help me with installing a game. I'm so incredibly lost and in dire need of help.
[07:17] <NoUse> svdp12 what game?
[07:17] <Jimmey__> svdp12, check to see if Morrowind is supported
[07:17] <Jimmey__> NoUse, Morrowind. He wants to use Wine.
[07:17] <mkyb14> is gnome default on ubuntu?
[07:17] <mkyb14> what am i using right now?
[07:17] <Jimmey__> mkyb14, yes
[07:17] <santagada> What audio player are you all using? recently rhythmbox is crashing when scanning my music dir and in banshe I hear a lot of sound gaps
[07:17] <Jimmey__> !kubuntu
[07:17] <ubotu> kubuntu is, like, Ubuntu+KDE  ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:18] <GreySim> santagada, Banshee here.
[07:18] <_jason> !players
[07:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[07:18] <svdp12> Would I check on WIne.com
[07:18] <Jimmey__> Xfmedia for me.
[07:18] <GreySim> Well, Banshee and Muine.
[07:18] <NoUse> svdp12 winehq.com
[07:18] <santagada> _jason, what I am saying is that the 2 default ones are not working for me
[07:19] <spikeb> i use rhythmbox and banshee
[07:19] <santagada> GreySim: are you using dapper?
[07:19] <spikeb> haven't decided
[07:19] <_jason> santagada: try the others on the list, but I have no problems with those you mentioined
[07:19] <GreySim> santagada, yes.
[07:19] <UKMatt> does anyone know a site where I can check out xbuntu?
[07:19] <santagada> GreySim: and it is not doing this weird gaps in the middle of the songs?
[07:19] <Jimmey__> !xubuntu
[07:19] <ubotu> methinks xubuntu is Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[07:19] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:20] <spikeb> Jimmey__: i think xfce is quickly becoming a very neat desktop environment
[07:20] <Jimmey__> spikeb, yeah :P
[07:20] <GreySim> santagada, which?  Banshee or Rhythmbox?  I haven't noticed anything odd with Banshee, and I don't use Rhythmbox...
[07:20] <UKMatt> jimmey_, I just wanna see what it looks like right now without putting it on
[07:20] <Chri[s] > how can i fix a repostory or restore
[07:20] <spikeb> Jimmey__: seems they're focusing on providing more and more applications, but keeping them small. i like that
[07:20] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, try www.google.com/imghp, type XFCE
[07:20] <zerium> what command would i use to logoff an inactive account?
[07:20] <santagada> does anyone knows why i am getting gaps when I play songs in banshee?
[07:20] <Jimmey__> Chri[s] , what's the problem?
[07:21] <UKMatt> jimmey_, do you know much about it?
[07:21] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, yep. It's more like Gnome than KDE - and faster than both.
[07:22] <UKMatt> jimmey_, I read up that it is made for older machines because of its light weight, does that impact the usability?
[07:22] <svdp12> It doesn't look like it's supported. I think I'm going to have to subscribe to Cedega, does anyone know how much it is?
[07:22] <Chri[s] > for some reason oidentd isnt in my list of packages
[07:22] <santagada> rhythmbox is segfaulting
[07:22] <zerium> does the latest beta of ubuntu come with XFCE?
[07:22] <spikeb> you can install it
[07:22] <santagada> retype@laura:~ $ rhythmbox
[07:22] <santagada> Total Unfree 0 bytes cnt 0 [(nil),0] 
[07:22] <santagada> Falha de segmentao
[07:22] <Jimmey__> zerium, I think you can download xubuntu dapper beta. Not sure. Try www.ubuntu.com/testing
[07:22] <santagada> this goes when I ask it to scan my library
[07:22] <UKMatt> jimmey_, judging from the screenshots it looks like gnome but not done as well
[07:23] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, it's lightweight.
[07:23] <NoUse> santagada breezy?
[07:23] <santagada> dapper
[07:23] <Jimmey__> !dapper
[07:23] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[07:23] <NoUse> !dapper
[07:23] <Jimmey__> XoD
[07:23] <UKMatt> also does anyone know where I can download Quake or Doom that I keep hearing about for ubuntu?
[07:23] <Jimmey__> NoUse, I'm on fire.
[07:23] <mkyb14> how do you install panels
[07:23] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, I think synaptic :P
[07:23] <UKMatt> jimmey_, it looks like gnome is a bit better
[07:24] <spikeb> damn it
[07:24] <Chri[s] > I cant install oidentd via synaptic package manager so i think i'm missing some repositories and it says one is broken. seems i only have 3 my cd, security, and updates
[07:24] <spikeb> frostwire doesn't run with gcj
[07:24] <Jimmey__> mkyb14, let me get a link
[07:24] <mkyb14> thankyou
[07:24] <spikeb> UKMatt: it's more full featured at the moment
[07:24] <UKMatt> spikeb, what is gnome over x?
[07:24] <Chri[s] > So where can i get a list of official repositories from ubuntu
[07:24] <spikeb> UKMatt: yeah, gnome
[07:24] <spikeb> UKMatt: over xfce
[07:25] <medialdesign> is there a way to get the keycodes of my keyboard ?
[07:25] <Jimmey__> mkyb14, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694&highlight=gnome+eyecandy
[07:25] <UKMatt> jimmey_, a search in synaptic only comes up with programs that need the "commercial data cdrom"
[07:25] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, oh.
[07:25] <UKMatt> spikeb, what is your preference out of the desktops?
[07:25] <gnat_x> anyone know a url for the install (rather than live) version of xubuntu dapper-beta? i've found http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/beta-2/ is do i want the text-mode cd, or am i just looking at the wrong page?
[07:26] <spikeb> UKMatt: gnome
[07:26] <Jimmey__> Textmode, gnat_x
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> medialdesign, There is.  Unfortunately, I'm not in Linux at the moment so I can't go looking for man pages.  However, if you search the wiki for how to make special keys work, I'm sure that page will tell you the command.
[07:26] <Jimmey__> That's the install CD.
[07:26] <UKMatt> spikeb, cool ty
[07:26] <gnat_x> Jimmey__: thatnks
[07:26] <medialdesign> thanks
[07:26] <gnat_x> Jimmey__: err thanks
[07:26] <Jimmey__> gnat_x, :P
[07:27] <UKMatt> does anyone know of any good games for Gnome?
[07:27] <ericmoritz\0> is there a way to change that the gnome volume manage mounts devices.  I want it to mount a device that has a certain group and to have that group be able to write to the device
[07:27] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, Enemy Territory
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> UKMatt: It's simple and default, but I was amused by SAMEGnome for a while.
[07:28] <ashr> can i ask fglrx driver questions in here or is there a another place where i can ask ? (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13719 is my problem)
[07:28] <spikeb> UKMatt: i know a couple games i have installed, they're not gnome specific :)
[07:29] <Jimmey__> ashr, just ask anyway :P
[07:29] <Jimmey__> It wont harm :P
[07:29] <Chri[s] > So where can i get a list of official repositories from ubuntu
[07:29] <ashr> :) --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13719 ?
[07:29] <UKMatt> jimmey_, was that a pay game?
[07:29] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, nope
[07:29] <ashr> i've got fairly new hardware
[07:30] <UKMatt> jimmey_, where did you find it from free?  the site i'm at charges
[07:30] <ashr> had tro load 8.24.8 just so the drivers could recognise my card
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell Chri[s]  about mirrors
[07:30] <Jimmey__> Chri[s] , in the Synaptic Package Manager, click "settings", and then "repositories"
[07:30] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, PM me.
[07:31] <UKMatt> what about any good free strategy games - like starcraft or warcraft kind?
[07:31] <Wirwing> hi, i have a pair of questions: how i can know if i have GTK1 org GTK2 installed? and what are the principal differences between both?
[07:32] <crimsun> Wirwing: by default you have gtk2 installed
[07:32] <Jimmey__> Wirwing, are you using Breezy?
[07:32] <Chri[s] > well okay why is there no oidentd
[07:32] <spikeb> Wirwing: gtk2 is far more advanced and has nicer themes
[07:32] <Wirwing> jimmey_: yes
[07:32] <crimsun> !info oidentd
[07:32] <ubotu> oidentd: (replacement ident daemon), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.0.7-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 192 kB
[07:32] <crimsun> Chri[s] : clearly there is.
[07:32] <weyer> hey, i'm thinking of placing an ubuntu linux on my laptop since i heard that powermanagement is quite good under ubuntu.  But i have no clue how the ubuntu/debian released are named
[07:32] <weyer> so wich one can i download best?
[07:33] <Trackilizer> When one extracts many .rar files that are acutally one file split into many in windows it extract with no probelms, everytime i try that in ubuntu i get an error.
[07:33] <weyer> breezy, warty, etc etc
[07:33] <Chri[s] > well apt-get install oidentd; reports and error that there is no oidentd
[07:33] <Jimmey__> weyer, the current stable Ubuntu is Breezy Badger ( 5.10 ), the beta is Dapper Drake ( 6.06 ), you choose :)
[07:33] <slackern> Chri[s] : You need universe repositories for it.
[07:33] <weyer> Jimmey__ is it as debian: stable is old, and beta is actually stable enough to use?
[07:34] <Chri[s] > slackern, where can i get a universe repository?
[07:34] <crimsun> !tell Chri[s]  about repos
[07:34] <Chri[s] > thank you
[07:34] <Jimmey__> weyer, I suppose it depends on what you want to use it for. I use Dapper, there's not to many bugs.
[07:34] <Wirwing> hi, if i want to activate universal repositories, i have to active "Support" too?
[07:35] <weyer> owkay, thnx (i use gentoo on desktop, so i'm used to some problems :-))
[07:37] <jc-denton> i get an error when trying to watch a win movie
[07:38] <jc-denton> Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load:
[07:38] <jc-denton> avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/codecs/avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll,
[07:38] <jc-denton> /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
[07:38] <jc-denton> i installed the non free packages as described in the wiki
[07:39] <jc-denton> also the avifile-win32-plugin
[07:39] <jc-denton> but still the same problem
[07:39] <jc-denton> on my win partition i cannot find this file either
[07:39] <Jimmey__> jc-denton, to play AVIs, you can use VLC
[07:40] <jc-denton> that will work
[07:40] <Jimmey__> Yes
[07:40] <ashr> vlc rox
[07:41] <svdp12> how do i install cedega. when I donload it, it says it's done, but clicking on the icon to install desnt work. Says it can't load the file
[07:41] <jc-denton> humm
[07:41] <Jimmey__> svdp12, what type of file is it?
[07:41] <jc-denton> i tried
[07:41] <jc-denton> vlc "http://www.gamespot.com/live/stream_asx.html?speed=300&path=mms://a1217.l1165462712.c11654.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1217/11654/v0001/reflector:62712?auth=caEbaaraqaDcOdmbWaWbgdtaTdEbPbrb2dw-beym2V-b4-pBJnHC&aifp=jsd&push=0&prestream=&onthespot=1"
[07:41] <jc-denton> [00000276]  access_mms access error: error: HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized
[07:43] <jc-denton> [00000279]  access_mms access error: error: HTTP/1.0 500 Internal Server Error
[07:43] <jc-denton> haha
[07:43] <jc-denton> it's a microsoft server
[07:43] <jc-denton> :P
[07:43] <morrison> hola
[07:45] <jc-denton> humm
[07:45] <jc-denton> to me it looks that vlc plays even less movies
[07:45] <jc-denton> [00000310]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'.
[07:45] <siriusnova> How do let ubuntu play 2 sounds at the same time, like if i was playing 2 movies at the same time etc.. ?
[07:46] <jc-denton> use esd
[07:46] <siriusnova> esound ?
[07:46] <jc-denton> -ao esd if u use mplayer
[07:46] <siriusnova> hmm ok
[07:47] <WILTY> HOLA DANI
[07:49] <UKMatt> jimmey_, hey how did you say you install a .run?  sudo ./name.run?
[07:49] <siriusnova> should i use oss, esound or alsa for beep media player
[07:49] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, yes
[07:49] <crimsun> siriusnova: alsa
[07:49] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, or, sudo bash ./nameOfTheFile.run
[07:49] <crimsun> siriusnova: everything should use alsa if possible
[07:49] <UKMatt> jimmey_, it told me command not found
[07:49] <siriusnova> hmm k
[07:49] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, then try sudo bash ./nameOfTheFile.run
[07:49] <UKMatt> jimmey_, ah that was it ty
[07:50] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, what connection speed do you have?
[07:50] <UKMatt> jimmey_, cable how come?
[07:50] <Jimmey__> UKMatt, if you just downloaded ET, that was fast..
[07:50] <bigmoe> is there a program in ubuntu that updates the external ip regularly?
[07:50] <UKMatt> jimmey_, ha :)
[07:51] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[07:51] <Jimmey__> bigmoe, what do you mean?
[07:51] <Jimmey__> MacSlow, hey :)
[07:51] <MacSlow> hi Jimmey__
[07:51] <Drac|Win> Changing users. I'll be back.
[07:51] <bigmoe> Jimmey__: to update the ip for the internet
[07:52] <Jimmey__> bigmoe, what for?
[07:52] <Healot> bigmoe: are you using something like a free DNS service?
[07:52] <bigmoe> rapidsharing and other sites
[07:52] <siriusnova> anyone notice this bug in Gnome Terminal, running mplayer will cause no input to be visible afterwards in the terminal
[07:53] <siriusnova> like from a terminal if you run mplayer
[07:53] <Healot> siriusnova: the name for mplayer ui is "gmplayer"
[07:53] <siriusnova> no i know
[07:53] <siriusnova> im just saying its a bug
[07:53] <Healot> you nned to suppy the output plus the input file if you want to use "mplayer"
[07:54] <siriusnova> your misunderstanding me
[07:54] <Healot> it isn't a bug...
[07:54] <siriusnova> o
[07:54] <beruic> If I have a processor with HyperThreading, should I then install another kernel to benefit from it?
[07:54] <spikeb> beruic: use a smp kernel
[07:54] <Jimmey__> spikeb, give a guy a chance :(
[07:54] <Jimmey__> XoD
[07:54] <Jimmey__> :P
[07:54] <siriusnova> like if i run mplayer video.mov
[07:54] <siriusnova> in a console
[07:54] <spikeb> haha Jimmey__
[07:55] <beruic> spikeb: For a single processor with hyperthreading?
[07:55] <siriusnova> then after the video is done i cant enter any text into the same terminal
[07:55] <Healot> siriusnova: "mplayer -o <output type> file"
[07:55] <spikeb> beruic: yeah
[07:55] <spikeb> beruic: hyperthreading is fake smp
[07:55] <beruic> spikeb: thx :)
[07:55] <Healot> -o requires something like "xv" or "gl" >> the graphics driver to display the fike
[07:55] <Healot> file
[07:55] <manux> Helo..... sory to disturb .... but i have a problem in Ubuntu with my Virtual host.... When I add in my virtual host configuration a port like  <VirtualHost *:80>
[07:55] <manux>  i get an error ?? Some one knows why ??
[07:56] <siriusnova> Healot - neat lol
[07:56] <manux> the error is : mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported,
[07:56] <siriusnova> Healot - guess im being dumb :X
[07:57] <Healot> siriusnova just read ubuntu's launchpad for *confirmed* bugs :)
[07:57] <manux> it is strange because all tutorials says to put the same syntax <VirtualHost *:80>
[07:57] <Healot> or "man mplayer"
[07:58] <yaaar> word
[07:58] <inma> gggggg
[07:58] <inma> hola
[07:58] <yaaar> is adobe acrobat reader just dumber on linux or something? why can't i enter anything on pdf forms and stuff?
[07:59] <MisterN> yaaar: that's plain possible
[07:59] <skipjack> Hello,
[07:59] <yaaar> that sucks
[07:59] <Jimmey__> skipjack, hey
[08:00] <PrimoTurbo> Any idea how to fix this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172915
[08:01] <Jimmey__> PrimoTurbo, yes
[08:01] <PrimoTurbo> How?
[08:01] <Jimmey__> PrimoTurbo,
[08:01] <PrimoTurbo> yes...
[08:02] <Jimmey__> I think in "System", "Preferences", there's something about the login screen set up
[08:02] <skipjack> Hello, my ubuntu doesn't not workng correctly, after I have installed it, it hangs at the Message: "Mouting root file systems...."
[08:02] <Jimmey__> Yes
[08:02] <PrimoTurbo> It's under Administration but there is no color selection for anything
[08:02] <Jimmey__> PrimoTurbo, try "System" "Administration" "Login Window" thing
[08:02] <mcquaid> hello, when i first tried hoary, i needed to compile something that required the headers.  i had issues and gave up and compiled my own kernel
[08:03] <treyh0> how does ubuntu keep its .deb's up to date with debian's packages?  is there a program used to help take "copies" or "mirrors" of the repository?
[08:03] <Jimmey__> PrimoTurbo, there is, somewhere
[08:03] <PrimoTurbo> 1 sec let me see
[08:03] <byen_> Hey Guys.. can anyone tell me if it is a good idea to Upgrade to Dapper now?
[08:03] <PrimoTurbo> ahh
[08:03] <PrimoTurbo> background color how did I miss that?
[08:03] <Jimmey__> byen_, you may aswell wait, it won't kill you
[08:03] <spikeb> it's always a better idea to wait until something goes stable
[08:03] <Jimmey__> PrimoTurbo, :P:P
[08:03] <mcquaid> now using the ubuntu kernel, i'm trying to compile a dri kernel module and running into issues
[08:03] <PrimoTurbo> Thanks dude, I should of looked closer
[08:04] <Jimmey__> byen_, having said that, it's pretty stable now
[08:04] <byen_> Jimmey__, yeah 3 more weeks right...
[08:04] <eggzeck> byen_, depends on your level of use.
[08:04] <mcquaid> i have the kernel headers for my kernel installed but it's complaining 'The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.'
[08:04] <atollena> hi all
[08:05] <byen_> eggzeck, have a ton of important mails in my evolution and all the software that i installed (java etc)
[08:05] <spikeb> byen_: wiat
[08:05] <spikeb> byen_: wait, that is.
[08:05] <Stc> hello
[08:05] <eggzeck> byen_, none of that will be lost, but never upgrade on a dev system
[08:05] <eggzeck> byen_, to an unstable version I mean.
[08:06] <byen_> yeah.. the only thing that scres me is that a lot of ppl have complained abt having issues with kde suring upgrade
[08:06] <atollena> I have added a line to /etc/profile (export LD_PRELOAD="/usr/lib/libdsocksd.so.0") but it does not seem to be read when loging in, echo $LD_PRELOAD prints a blank line
[08:06] <Stc> why sl-modem-daemon (2.9.10+2.9.9d-6ubuntu1) if in my ubuntu  i have  2.9.12 ?
[08:06] <PrimoTurbo> Someone want to try and help me with these :D http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172430 & http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172821
[08:06] <Jimmey__> byen_, the solution's simple - Don't use KDE
[08:06] <crimsun> Stc: that's 2.9.9d-6...
[08:06] <yaaar> so are there any pdf programs on linux that will work with fill-and-print type forms?
[08:06] <byen_> shud i uninstall it? before upgrade?
[08:07] <eggzeck> byen_, I wouldn't know, I use gnome. But yes you should heed those complaints.
[08:07] <Jimmey__> byen_, I was joking..
[08:07] <byen_> lol
[08:07] <Stc> crimsun, what?
[08:07] <crimsun> Stc: that version is 2.9.9d-6
[08:07] <Stc> ciao Goshawk :)
[08:07] <yaaar> it looks like adobe's own reader won't do it...the owner's manual talks about setting form preferences, and that section is missing from the prefs in linux it seems
[08:07] <atollena> anyone ?
[08:07] <Goshawk> Stc: ciao, ci conosciamo?
[08:07] <byen_> know waht I might as well wait.. its only 3 more weeks... eggzeck and Jimmey__
[08:08] <eggzeck> byen_, that's what I'm doing.
[08:08] <Stc> crimsun, but /etc/init.d/sl-modem-daemon start  report: ...  try to install the package sl-modem-modules-2.6.12-9-386. Exiting...
[08:08] <byen_> ah.. so hard to sit back and wait when all these guys are having fun :{
[08:09] <marius> hey you all
[08:09] <crimsun> Stc: did you compile said modules?
[08:09] <marius> is there any way to monitor processor temperature?
[08:09] <victori> lmsensors
[08:09] <eggzeck> marius, yes.
[08:09] <paradizelost> hey all, any bad thins about easyubuntu?
[08:10] <eggzeck> paradizelost, not that I know of.
[08:11] <marius> eggzeck, how do I go about this?
[08:12] <spikeb> paradizelost: only works on breezy at the moment
[08:12] <Jimmey__> marius, maybe try a Gdesklet?
[08:12] <eggzeck> marius, http://www2.lm-sensors.nu/%7Elm78/
[08:13] <eggzeck> marius, victori did say to use lmsensors as well :) (hope this gets your started)
[08:13] <eggzeck> s/your/you/
[08:13] <marius> hey, I see now. Thanks :)
[08:14] <victori> can anyone give me a rough estimate on how many packages the ubuntu repo has?
[08:14] <Chri[s] > yeah
[08:14] <Chri[s] > I need to know how to add repos
[08:14] <victori> 11049 in portage, I want to see if ubuntu has more.
[08:14] <stofferdk>  Does linux have a taskmanager?
[08:14] <eggzeck> Chri[s] , add them in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:14] <victori> 11,049 is quite a bit
[08:14] <venox> hey... how can I make my ubuntu execute a command as root everytime the distro boots? (like putting a command on /etc/rc.local on other distros)
[08:14] <victori> but out of curiosity I am wondering how many ubuntu has
[08:14] <Jimmey__> victori, I'd say closer to 20,000 with Ubuntu Universe
[08:14] <_jason> victori: ~19000 last I checked
[08:15] <victori> thanks
[08:15] <Jimmey__> venox, let me check
[08:15] <victori> so it has more, interesting
[08:15] <kouwe> wy cant i get ubuntu run on my toshiba laptop....
[08:15] <eggzeck> stofferdk, yes, in linux they're called 'cronjobs'.
[08:15] <victori> how is the amd64 support?
[08:15] <stofferdk> How do I open it?
[08:15] <paradizelost> spikeb: so doesn't work at all on dapper? seems to be going, but will it hose anythig?
[08:15] <roryy> venox: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh is one place
[08:15] <Jimmey__> victori, you're better off with a 32 bit system
[08:15] <soundray> victori: amd64 has 18316 packages
[08:15] <soundray> Jimmey__: you don't know that.
[08:16] <victori> Jimmey__: I like to have the extra 8 general purpose registers
[08:16] <tahorg> Anyone's aware of a bug with gtk not supporting png in dapper ?
[08:16] <venox> roryy: hmmm, thanks :))
[08:16] <victori> and chrooting a 32bit install is good enough
[08:16] <mcquaid_> hello, not sure if i need to compile everything, but i use ubuntu, and i was just trying to compile tdfx-20060403-linux
[08:16] <Jimmey__> soundray, there's minimal speed gain for 64bit over 32bit compared to the loss in installable apllications
[08:16] <tahorg> I've just uninstalled everything and reinstalled ubuntu-desktop
[08:16] <mcquaid_> I compiled common first, but it fails on tdfx, i get the error: The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.
[08:16] <mcquaid_> i have my kernel headers installed for the kernel i'm using
[08:16] <soundray> Jimmey__: that is true only for general purpose applications. I have one that is about 8 times faster in amd64
[08:16] <victori> Jimmey__: for example? all the applications _I_ need run on amd64
[08:16] <daryl> is there a way to remove Dapper Drake, and go back to Breezy Badger?
[08:17] <_jason> daryl: not really
[08:17] <spikeb> paradizelost: well, i dont know, it may or may not hose everything
[08:17] <victori> only applications I can think of that require strict 32-bit mode are dynarec emulators
[08:17] <eggzeck> stofferdk, use this command: apt-cache search taskmanager
[08:17] <victori> and some work just fine in emulated 32-bit mode
[08:17] <Jimmey__> victori, in that case, you're not better off with a 32 bit system.
[08:17] <daryl> _jason: woot rofl, thanks man
[08:17] <_jason> daryl: why?
[08:17] <eggzeck> stofferdk, if you have the right repos you should see some nice results.
[08:18] <stofferdk> And what is the command to terminate an app?
[08:18] <eggzeck> stofferdk, kill
[08:18] <eggzeck> stofferdk, read about it with 'man kill'
[08:19] <eggzeck> I feel like creating a task manager myself :)
[08:19] <stofferdk> How can I check what ID the job has?
[08:19] <Jimmey__> eggzeck, there already is one
[08:19] <eggzeck> stofferdk, ps -e
[08:19] <eggzeck> Jimmey__, yes I know, but doesn't mean I can't make another
[08:19] <Jimmey__> eggzeck, fair enough :P
[08:20] <eggzeck> stofferdk, read about ps with 'man ps'
[08:20] <_jason> stofferdk: system tools > system monitor as well
[08:20] <eggzeck> Jimmey__, :D
[08:24] <robinsw> Is there any sort of alternative to Dreamweaver for Linux (Not NVU, too WYSIWYG for me!) Primarily PHP to be used, some CSS support needed too.
[08:24] <AnsiC> hello
[08:24] <stephane_> how can i join the French forum?
[08:24] <ikonia_> hello Ansic
[08:24] <ph8> hey guys!
[08:24] <ikonia_> your last words where"please help me
[08:25] <ikonia_>  I guess no-ones helping you anymore
[08:25] <ikonia_> hello ph8
[08:25] <ph8> I'm trying to figure out if i can mute/unmute my sound card from the command line - can anyone help?
[08:25] <ikonia_> ph8 maybe something you can do with alsa-mixer
[08:26] <zim_> has anyone played with ifolders in ubuntu i was just readind an artical and it looks kewl
[08:27] <robinsw> iFolders?!
[08:27] <robinsw> What the heck are they?
[08:28] <kubuntu_> howdy yall
[08:28] <LinuxJones> zim_: I haven't tried it but it looks very cool
[08:28] <my-style-23> Hi all
[08:28] <zim_> thats my ? http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Main_Page
[08:28] <zim_> yup
[08:28] <my-style-23> speak everyone german
[08:29] <Jimmey__> !de
[08:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[08:29] <zim_> think it needs some investigation
[08:29] <eggzeck> He was demanding that we all speak German.
[08:29] <kubuntu_> anyone know how to get grub to remove the other older kernels?//
[08:29] <eggzeck> :p
[08:29] <Jimmey__> kubuntu, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:29] <Jimmey__> kubuntu_, be careful though :P
[08:29] <kubuntu_> Yeah I know
[08:30] <_jason> just uninstall them in synaptic
[08:30] <kubuntu_> one mistake and im sh1t out of luck
[08:31] <_jason> kubuntu_: the packages are linux-image-*  just make sure you leave one...
[08:31] <kubuntu_> i will back it up first =)
[08:31] <kubuntu_> _jason - Yeah, no kernel means NO workie. LOL
[08:31] <inx|David> do i need to do expert install to do dual boot?
[08:31] <_jason> kubuntu_: heh yeah.  You don't need to edit the menu.lst directly though, it should autmoatically be removed
[08:32] <kubuntu_> but on sucessive update to kernel it list them all so you can "fall back" right?
[08:32] <kubuntu_> right _jason?
[08:33] <_jason> kubuntu_: it lists the kernels you have.  I just leave the 2 most recent installed
[08:33] <kubuntu_> got it
[08:33] <kubuntu_> thats what I want to do 2. Tx man
[08:35] <user__> ola
[08:35] <user__> ola
[08:35] <kubuntu_> ?
[08:36] <stofferdk> Any suggestions for a ftp client?
[08:36] <user__> cmo estan?
[08:36] <user__> no
[08:36] <user__> olaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:36] <paradizelost> hey, i loaded mesa to try xgl, now i can't get my card to use the fglrx driver w/o xgl...
[08:37] <paradizelost> it wants to remove a whole lot of core stuff to remove mesa as well..
[08:37] <crook> stofferdk: console -> lftp  ncftp wget
[08:37] <crook> gui ones are worthless imho
[08:37] <siriusnova> hey guys whats a good software app to use to browse samba networks, gnome is being a pain with nautilus
[08:37] <mantono> !mpd
[08:37] <ubotu> mantono: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:38] <paradizelost> siriusnova: use konqueror. seems to work better for that..
[08:38] <_jason> stofferdk: if you want to try a gui on, you can try nautilus (your file browser) and gftp
[08:38] <paradizelost> or you could just use NFS instead...
[08:38] <siriusnova> nfs isn't an option, i want to access stuff on the local windows network and nautilus makes it difficult hehe
[08:39] <gmvihh> jthjnythrhfgfg
[08:39] <paradizelost> siriusnova: i find that by ip it's a little more reliable
[08:39] <siriusnova> what if i don't know the ip?
[08:40] <kubuntu_> siriusnova ping it for the ip address
[08:40] <siriusnova> kubuntu_ - all i have is a share address like \\ROCKY
[08:41] <yaaar> paradizelost: how did you set up the xsession? typically you don't want to uninstall all the mesa/glx stuff, just tell gdm and your session that you want to use the regular xorg
[08:41] <kubuntu_> so once u connect go to console and type netstat -a and u will see it
[08:41] <kubuntu_> the IP I mean
[08:42] <robinsw> Any idea how I can completely open a folder? ie. All files and folders within it are completely public 777?
[08:43] <dooglus> robinsw: what about files inside folders inside folders in it?
[08:43] <dooglus> robinsw: ie. do you want to 'open' it recursively?
[08:43] <kubuntu_> robinsw - use -R
[08:43] <kubuntu_> robinsw - use -R option
[08:43] <eggzeck> robinsw, chmod -r +rwx dir/
[08:43] <kubuntu_> robinsw - man chmod
[08:43] <eggzeck> oops, it's -R
[08:44] <robinsw> Ah, great!
[08:44] <robinsw> Thanks
[08:44] <robinsw> :)
[08:44] <kubuntu_> oppsie
[08:44] <kubuntu_> lol
[08:44] <eggzeck> robinsw, yeah, so it's: chmod -R +rwx dir/
[08:45] <kubuntu_> or 777
[08:45] <duckdown> Hey all.. I need a reccomendation on something I can apt-get to view/copy files from a local, shared windows XP folder
[08:45] <robinsw> Thanks a lot :)
[08:45] <duckdown> (on another computer.. SMB)
[08:45] <eggzeck> I hate numeric. They are easy.
[08:45] <dooglus> if you want everything to be '777' mode, use 'chmod -R 777 folder'
[08:45] <kubuntu_> rgr
[08:45] <dooglus> +rwx won't necessarily leave things at 777 permissions
[08:45] <eggzeck> dooglus, that's the same as +rwx
[08:45] <dooglus> eggzeck: not quite
[08:45] <eggzeck> dooglus, what's the difference?
[08:46] <kubuntu_> oh god geek fight lol
[08:46] <dooglus> eggzeck: 777 gives all permissions to everyone.  +rwx doesn't
[08:46] <duckdown> hahah
[08:46] <kubuntu_> see man pages
[08:46] <kubuntu_> man chmod
[08:46] <dooglus> eggzeck: 777 will also remove setuid and setgid bits, +rwx won't
[08:46] <eggzeck> dooglus, so this: chmod -R a+rwx dir/
[08:47] <dooglus> eggzeck: that still won't clear the set[ug] id bits
[08:47] <eggzeck> dooglus, I'm going to rm you.
[08:47] <eggzeck> dooglus, haha, but good thinking though
[08:47] <ph8> I'm trying to figure out if i can mute/unmute my sound card from the command line - can anyone help?
[08:47] <kubuntu_> lol
[08:47] <dooglus> eggzeck: I'm on readonly filesystem
[08:49] <Lah_oliveira> OI
[08:49] <Lah_oliveira> ?
[08:49] <dooglus> ZW!
[08:49] <eggzeck> Lah_oliveira, what are you trying to say?
[08:49] <eggzeck> oh well
[08:49] <kubuntu_> OI he likes AC/DC
[08:50] <eggzeck> I thought he meant I/O but O/I
[08:50] <ericmoritz\0> is anyone familiar with configuring hal?
[08:50] <kubuntu_> lol jk
[08:50] <ubuntu> hi does anyone know if there an glx package avaible for 1.0-8756 nvidia graphic card drivers
[08:51] <eggzeck> ubuntu, yes, nvidia-glx (though I'm not sure it will work for you, I use ATI)
[08:52] <MacSlow> any gtkglext/mm maintainer here maybe?
[08:52] <dooglus> I'm afraid I can't let you do that, ericmoritz\0
[08:52] <MacSlow> I've .debs for gtkglext/mm 1.2.0 to offer
[08:52] <ubuntu> eggzeck am using ubuntu breezy so whats the problem
[08:52] <MacSlow> sofar sending them to the mailing-list (or the maintainers themselves) didn't result in any reaction
[08:52] <eggzeck> ubuntu, apt-cache search glx (you should see a package called nvidia-glx and some others as well)
[08:55] <jager> how do i convince firefox to use mozilla-mplayer instead of totem-mozilla?
[08:55] <duckdown> Can anyone reccomend a SMB client for me, so I can browse one of the Windows XP computers on my home network?
[08:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell jager about replacetotem
[08:56] <skipjack> cano somebody help my systems hangs with: "Mounting root filesystems..." and if I start the system without splash, I see that after he has detected my Usb devices nothing comes ..
[08:57] <carlos-the-man> jager --see moz`s helr apps in its configuration
[08:57] <jager> seems to work
[08:57] <jager> thanks guys
[08:58] <Awesome-o2000> !tell me about ati
[08:58] <F0LL0W3R> heey ma problem in installin apache n mysql heres it
[08:58] <F0LL0W3R> http://rafb.net/paste/results/R5KKcE11.html
[08:58] <F0LL0W3R> can some1 tell that if there is a porb or not ?
[08:59] <dooglus> F0LL0W3R: it looks like a keyboard problem to me
[08:59] <roy> anyone using dapper?
[08:59] <F0LL0W3R> keyboard how
[08:59] <roy> is it reliable?
[08:59] <tazan> oi galera
[08:59] <F0LL0W3R> dooglus could u explain more ?
[08:59] <dooglus> F0LL0W3R: your text is barely legible
[08:59] <F0LL0W3R> aha
[09:00] <dooglus> try turning the keyboard upside down and shaking it to get the porb out
[09:00] <skipjack> is there an cheatcode for disable usb support ?
[09:00] <stofferdk> Is there some application to emulate a windows enviroment for other applications?
[09:00] <F0LL0W3R> dooglus Okay i will try now
[09:00] <skipjack> now it works ..
[09:00] <jager> seems like mozilla-mplayer is choppy at apple.com/trailers
[09:00] <_jason> stofferdk: wine, cedega
[09:01] <_jason> jager: is it choppy if you play it from the command line with mplayer?
[09:01] <digen> guys can someone check this problem of mine please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172376&highlight=iptables
[09:01] <stofferdk> _jason: Cedega I got for games    - and wine is for other appli?
[09:01] <skipjack> after I change my memory again to an other module what I have had before inside .. and whith it ubuntu shows to don't boot correctly .. now it works ?!?
[09:01] <jager> good question _jason, i'll hceck
[09:01] <_jason> stofferdk: can't you run other apps through cedega too? I don't use it so I am not sure
[09:02] <dooglus> F0LL0W3R: 'start' will start the daemon, 'stop' will stop it, and 'restart' will restart it.  where's the porb?
[09:02] <stofferdk> I dont know, but cedega is made for gaming
[09:02] <F0LL0W3R> dooglus it gives me a message Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[09:02] <F0LL0W3R> httpd not running, trying to start
[09:02] <NEOelder> algum me sabe dizer onde posso sakar a verso DVD? j sakei dos servidores indicados no site duas vezes mas sempre que tento instalar no VMware d erro num dos ficheiros...
[09:03] <_jason> !pt
[09:03] <F0LL0W3R> what is the problem with that now ?
[09:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:03] <thug> hi all
[09:03] <thug> libvisual WARNING: no progname: visual_plugin_get_list(): Failed to add the /usr/lib/libvisual/transform directory to the plugin registry
[09:03] <_jason> stofferdk: well you can try wine as well
[09:03] <thug> i get this error while i try to install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[09:03] <thug> any ideea ?
[09:03] <stofferdk> WTF - I just took at look at some screenshots from gaming on linux, it looks like ********
[09:04] <siriusnova> lol
[09:04] <thug> stofferdk what are you going to play ? :)
[09:04] <stofferdk> WoW
[09:04] <siriusnova> everyone plays WoW
[09:04] <siriusnova> if Blizzard may a WoW linux binary my life would be complete :
[09:04] <siriusnova> :(
[09:04] <siriusnova> made a
[09:04] <jager> where do i find helper apps in firefox?
[09:05] <NEOelder> haven't notice this was in english
[09:05] <stofferdk> Anyone here actually ytried to play wow on linux?
[09:05] <AlmtyBob> jager: you mean extensions?
[09:05] <siriusnova> stofferdk - its apparently working through wine
[09:05] <jager> i mean things like mozilla-mplayer
[09:05] <stofferdk> Yeah, but who the hell cares when it looks like *****
[09:06] <NEOelder> where can I find the DVD version??? I have already downloaded from the site server... but there is always an error in one of the files!!!
[09:06] <dooglus> F0LL0W3R: you told it to 'restart'.  that means 'stop' then 'start'.  it wasn't running, so it couldn't stop.
[09:06] <slew> hi, how do i install sdl?
[09:06] <F0LL0W3R> dooglus yea got it
[09:06] <_jason> NEOelder: did you verify the download by comparing md5sums?
[09:06] <dooglus> slew: what for?  building something?
[09:06] <AlmtyBob> stofferdk: why don't you just dual-boot?
[09:07] <torben> Network problem: I have a Netgear WG511 PMCIA card and installed the driver in Ubuntu with Ndiswrapper. In Network properties I have configured the ESSID and Web key plus choosen DHCP.
[09:07] <torben> I have activated Wlan0 and deactivated eth0. The green light on the card is blinking now and then. The Kwifi manager shows connection speed at 2 Mbit/s but no available accesspoint nor IP. But, but I cannot connect the internet via Wifi  only via cable. What shall I do to make the wifi work??
[09:07] <NEOelder> I've triyed to install it on VMware but cont move on because of an error with one of the files.....
[09:07] <ferronica> what up guys
[09:07] <slew> dooglus, i have an app thats supposed to work better in sdl mode
[09:07] <ferronica> problem here
[09:07] <stofferdk> AlmtyBob: Having two OS? No thank you
[09:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell NEOelder about verify
[09:07] <jager> yeah _jason it's choppy when i download the trailer to the local drive too
[09:07] <siriusnova> stofferdk - i dual boot all the time
[09:07] <stofferdk> I wish you all luck with linux - it wil lnever sruvive with out proper gaming
[09:07] <ferronica> my firefox1.5 check updates option is DIM...........
[09:07] <jager> why might mplayer be choppy?
[09:07] <_jason> jager: are other files choppy?
[09:07] <siriusnova> stofferdk = troll
[09:07] <dooglus> slew: and you want to rebuild the app for SDL?
[09:07] <NEOelder> _jason: no I dont know how to do that .... thats exactely the error!!!!
[09:08] <_jason> NEOelder: what's exactly the error? md5sum mismatch?
[09:08] <NEOelder> I use, sorruy for the heresy, to download it
[09:08] <siriusnova> the only game i play on Windows is WoW and i dualboot for it, big deal lol
[09:08] <NEOelder> yes something like that on one of the files
[09:08] <ferronica> jason: my friend hi..
[09:08] <jager> dunno for certain yet
[09:08] <jager> but kaffeine plays it flawlessly
[09:08] <NEOelder> I use, sorruy for the heresy, windows to download it
[09:08] <_jason> NEOelder: that probably means the download got corrupted
[09:08] <slew> dooglus, it seems i dont have SDL installed, and was wondering what package i need to install it. the app worked with sdl before, but i've reinstalled since then and i dont know how to reinstall SDL
[09:08] <_jason> ferronica: hello
[09:09] <NEOelder> _jason: TWICE??? :((((
[09:09] <jager> not sure why kaffeine would work perfectly while mplayer would be choppy
[09:09] <jager> and totem just crashes
[09:09] <ferronica> jason: gotta problem here i hav installed firefox 1.5 but check for updates option from help menu is DIM. WHY????
[09:09] <ferronica> jason: :(
[09:09] <_jason> NEOelder: check the md5sum on the file you downloaded using the link ubotu sent you and see if it amtches the one on the site
[09:10] <_jason> ferronica: read the wiki page, it explains how to upgrade
[09:10] <roy> openbsd or dapper??
[09:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell ferronica about ff1.5
[09:10] <dooglus> slew: I think it's libsdl1.2debian
[09:10] <roy> ubotu: tell roy about mp3
[09:10] <_jason> jager: any useful terminal output from the terminal using mplayer?
[09:11] <rab> whats a automatix alternitave?
[09:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell rab about easyubuntu
[09:11] <delmar> can anyone recommend some kinda SIP Video phone software?
[09:11] <slew> dooglus, thanks.
[09:11] <kbrooks> _jason: :-)
[09:11] <rab> k
[09:11] <slew> its already installed though.
[09:11] <ahmed> hi everybody
[09:11] <Mr-Petah> hi all
[09:12] <Mr-Petah> i have one question
[09:12] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> go ahead
[09:12] <robinsw> Anybody up for a bit of Traceroute RPGing?
[09:12] <Mr-Petah> tne nvidia drivers in ubuntu repository, have 3D acerleration?
[09:13] <jager> not that i can see _jason
[09:13] <delmar> Mr-Petah, yep
[09:13] <NoUse> Mr-Petah yes
[09:13] <robinsw> !easyubuntu
[09:13] <Mr-Petah> ok
[09:13] <Mr-Petah> tnx!
[09:13] <_jason> jager: what type of files are these?
[09:14] <Apostle^> can anyone help me with a hardware problem, on my other computer when i turn it on all the fans etc come on, but no display (i have tried dif video cards / onboard graphics / resetting ram ( their is no beeps for errors..) i just bought a new cmos battery and i was told to let it sit for 3 hours before putting in the new battery) anyone have any ideas why i'm having this problem?
[09:14] <jager> .mov
[09:14] <Mr-Petah> i can play CS in cedega with this drivers, true?
[09:14] <jager> it's the superman returns trailer, in this case
[09:14] <jager> it also stutters with video from cnn.com, which was a wmv
[09:14] <NoUse> Apostle^ are you sure the monitor works?
[09:14] <delmar> Apostle^, did u try putting the old one back in ?
[09:14] <Apostle^> the monitor works yes.
[09:14] <delmar> Mr-Petah, yep
[09:14] <Apostle^> delmar, the old battery?
[09:15] <Mr-Petah> delmar, tnx ;)
[09:15] <delmar> Mr-Petah, personally.. im hating Cedega right now
[09:15] <Apostle^> delmar, i just bought a new one, and iwas told to wait 3 hours b4 putting it in
[09:15] <delmar> Apostle^, well that was a silly suggestion
[09:15] <NoUse> Apostle^ have you tried taking out the video card and using the onboard video? if you have a card plugged into the motherboard, the BIOS usually turns off the onboard video
[09:15] <Mr-Petah> sry delmar i part when you talk wit me
[09:16] <ph8> is there anything like knotes for gnome?
[09:16] <jager> interesting
[09:16] <delmar> Apostle^, removing the battery then waiting 3hrs to put the new one in would possibly kill your stored settings.
[09:16] <_jason> jager: try: mplayer -ao null /path/to/file
[09:16] <jager> changed the audio settings from alsa to oss and it no longer stutters
[09:16] <Apostle^> NoUse, i have not tried taking it out, it's pci-express... should i remove it, i think this is a hardware issue like maybe the mobo?
[09:16] <Mr-Petah> delmar, tnx 4 your help :)
[09:16] <Apostle^> delmar, thats what i was told to do
[09:16] <delmar> Mr-Petah, yeah im not happy with Cedega right now. I play Everquest and the performance vs running under windows.. plus all the other bugs and crap i have had to put up with... its just not bloody worth it.
[09:16] <NoUse> Apostle^ if you leave it in , the bios won't' turn on the oboard video
[09:16] <_jason> jager: ok, guess you don't need to try that last suggestion.  Can you pastebin what 'mplayer -ao alsa file' outputs?
[09:17] <slew> do the cedega games run pretty well, or is it all choppy?
[09:17] <NoUse> Apostle^ I would try remving the PCIe card and try the onboard video
[09:17] <Apostle^> NoUse, could a faulty vid card stop the pc from doing anything?
[09:17] <NoUse> Apostle^ yup
[09:17] <Apostle^> NoUse, should i wait the 3hrs for the cmos ?
[09:17] <Mr-Petah> delmar, ok! i try it now... tnx ;)
[09:17] <shawn_> i don't speak english!!
[09:17] <Stc> crimsun, hello ;D
[09:17] <NoUse> Apostle^ only if you want to erase your current settings
[09:17] <Apostle^> NoUse, k
[09:17] <Stc> Goshawk, ciao
[09:17] <iNiku> !fr
[09:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:17] <shawn_> y'a un francais par la?
[09:18] <Apostle^> NoUse, okay so i'll go unplug the Pci-e and try to boot it again?
[09:18] <delmar> Apostle^, you dont need to wait at all when changing a battery.. but that doesn't really explain why you are not getting it to POST.
[09:18] <Apostle^> NoUse, if that doesn't work i dunno whats wrong
[09:18] <Apostle^> delmar, yea no beeps or anything
[09:18] <Ayabara> tried "sudo chmod -R +rw usbdisk-1" to get write access to my external hd, but it didn't work. anyone??
[09:19] <delmar> Can anyone in here recommend any software for using as a Videophone, specifically with the SIP protocol... eyebeam under windows was cool but.. windows all gone now :P
[09:19] <Goshawk> Stc: ciao,  la seconda volta, ci conosciamo?
[09:19] <slackern> delmar: ekiga?
[09:19] <delmar> Apostle^, so when u remove the memory.. there are no beeps? and speaker is attached correctly?
[09:19] <delmar> slackern, whats that?
[09:19] <Apostle^> delmar, i havent tried removing the memory and booting.. and what speaker?
[09:19] <slackern> it's some kind of videoconferencing software for linux
[09:20] <slackern> delmar: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
[09:20] <delmar> Apostle^, u said.. no beeps... i assume u have a PC Speaker attached to the motherboard?
[09:20] <slackern> delmar: I think it should be installed or in the repos
[09:20] <Apostle^> delmar, pc speaker like, external ones?
[09:20] <mirak> why Gnome doesn't use automount for samba like OS X does ?
[09:20] <Apostle^> delmar, i was told that it had an onboars speaker for beeps
[09:20] <delmar> Apostle^, no the internal PC speaker
[09:21] <delmar> Apostle^, ok. cool
[09:21] <mirak> or use pmount, whatever , because gnome-vfs sucks
[09:21] <aLPHa_LeaK> !compiz
[09:21] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, aLPHa_LeaK
[09:21] <aLPHa_LeaK> !xgl
[09:21] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:21] <delmar> Apostle^, so remove your memory and power on.. if u get no beeps... the board is dead
[09:21] <Apostle^> delmar, gonna go try to remove the video card and see what happens
[09:21] <Apostle^> delmar, okay, so remove memory first?
[09:21] <delmar> Apostle^, is there any on-board video ?
[09:21] <Apostle^> delmar, yea
[09:21] <simonpca> plop
[09:22] <delmar> Apostle^, without any vid hardware.. it should also beep. but since there is onboard, it would just switch to that. a sure way to make it beep is to remove the memory... all boards i know make noise and complain without memory
[09:22] <delmar> slackern, thanks ill check that out
[09:22] <bertien> wow
[09:22] <bertien> i never did this befor...
[09:22] <bertien> before..
[09:23] <Mr-Petah> delmar, , me returns with another question... :P
[09:23] <delmar> slackern, meh. it wont even start.
[09:23] <delmar> slackern, crashes
[09:23] <McScruff> lo, i installed totem firefox plugin, it works but its too bright, when i right click and goto preferences nothing happens
[09:23] <slackern> delmar: it's worked fine on all machines i've tried, write a bug report about it .)
[09:23] <crazy_penguin> hi!
[09:23] <_jason> jager: still there?
[09:23] <Ayabara> could someone help me getting write access to my external usb harddrive?
[09:23] <delmar> ffs. why doesn't shit work on this "fantastic alternative to windows"
[09:24] <thorsten> what ?
[09:24] <thorsten> hi is there anybody
[09:24] <Mr-Petah> who i try install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings, aptitude says me need linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386, i have k7 kernel... dont need 386, i can hold, or is necesary? 8sry 4 my english :P)
[09:24] <crazy_penguin> where can i find on the web a list of availble packages/applications for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[09:24] <delmar> Mr-Petah, what question?
[09:25] <_jason> !puc
[09:25] <ubotu> hmm... puc is http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:25] <_jason> crazy_penguin: ^^^
[09:25] <Mr-Petah> who i try install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings, aptitude says me need linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386, i have k7 kernel... dont need 386, i can hold, or is necesary? (sry 4 my english :P)
[09:25] <Mr-Petah> this is the question
[09:25] <thorsten> @petah.....sorry my ubuntu has the new linux image..try to update please
[09:25] <crazy_penguin> thx
[09:25] <fuego> salut
[09:25] <thorsten> salut fuego
[09:26] <fuego> je comprend rien a LINUX HHHHEEEELLLPPP
[09:26] <_jason> !fr
[09:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:26] <thorsten> fuego try in english please
[09:26] <Mr-Petah> thorsten, you have dapper, true?
[09:26] <delmar> Mr-Petah, yeah i guess thats a problem. i have intel CPU here so i dont have that issue.
[09:26] <fuego> COMMENT
[09:26] <fuego> ???????
[09:26] <_jason> fuego: /join #ubuntu-fr
[09:26] <fuego> et je tape ca ou ?
[09:26] <_jason> fuego: oui
[09:26] <thorsten> @petah.... no... updated yesterday....
[09:27] <Mr-Petah> delmar, ok, tnx, i try hold this pakages...
[09:27] <delmar> Mr-Petah, aptitude is wrong. try to install the packages from the command line.  " sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings"
[09:27] <fuego> merci
[09:27] <delmar> Mr-Petah, if it still wants to install use aptitude and hold them i guess
[09:27] <Mr-Petah> delmar, with apt-get exact =
[09:27] <thorsten> @petah.... or so like delmar says
[09:27] <Mr-Petah> ok
[09:27] <Mr-Petah> i love the community
[09:28] <Mr-Petah> :P
[09:28] <Mr-Petah> see all
[09:28] <thorsten> :-)
[09:28] <roy> ok can i get osme help im having a problem
[09:28] <bosco> what is the command to check how much hard drive i know DU-H updates that info how do access that info
[09:28] <bosco> space i have left on my hard drive
[09:28] <roy> i have the dapper cd in the system, and im rebooting and tryin to boot from it but when it loads to the main screen asking me if i wanna install to hard drive or install a serveror resuce system etc. etc. my keyboard wont work :O
[09:29] <roy> but it works fine in the bios and on my windows os
[09:29] <roy> :|
[09:29] <bosco> how do i find out how much hard drive space i have left what is the command
[09:29] <roy> i have the dapper cd in the system, and im rebooting and tryin to boot from it but when it loads to the main screen asking me if i wanna install to hard drive or install a serveror resuce system etc. etc. my keyboard wont work... thnx for any help or suggestions
[09:30] <loufoque> when I type "grep -P foo" I have a error message saying the option -P is unsupported
[09:30] <loufoque> what can I do so that it can be supported
[09:30] <loufoque> (it's a valid option according to the manual)
[09:31] <roy> any help please
[09:31] <slackern> loufoque: well to use -P you need to enter a pattern
[09:31] <juanca7777> hello everyone
[09:31] <loufoque> slackern: foo is a valid pattern
[09:32] <slackern> then end it with what file you want
[09:32] <bosco> how do i find out how much hard drive space i have left what is the command
[09:32] <slackern> it's grep -P pattern file
[09:32] <jvai> hey uall, do i need win32 codecs-i383, even tho i use an i686 system?
[09:32] <slackern> bosco: df -h
[09:32] <loufoque> slackern: echo you think I'm stupid | grep -P pattern
[09:32] <dnkidjit> what is the easiest way to install macromedia flash player? is there a package/repo?
[09:32] <juanca7777> I am having some problems with synaptic, Everytime I want to change the proxy serer config the application just hangs up
[09:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell dnkidjit about flash
[09:32] <dnkidjit> thank you:)
[09:33] <juanca7777> what can I do? Are there any text-based config files like for apt?
[09:33] <_jason> !aptproxy
[09:33] <Apostle^> delmar, i guess the motherboard is dead because i removed both 512mb ram sticks and it made no noises
[09:33] <ubotu> _jason: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:33] <_jason> !apt_proxy
[09:33] <ubotu> well, apt_proxy is for Apt via a http proxy, make a file called apt.conf in /etc/apt and put this in it...     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://PROXYADDRESS:PORT";
[09:33] <slackern> loufoque: do 'grep --help' and if you read about -P it says you must enter a pattern and then if you look at the top of the help it says grep <flag> <pattern> <file>
[09:34] <bosco> how do i find out how much hard drive space i have left what is the command
[09:34] <dnkidjit> bosco: df -h
[09:34] <bosco> kk
[09:34] <jvai> are there win32 codecs for an i686 system? or there are only win32 i383 codecs..
[09:34] <Ayabara> when I set permissions on an external hd, do I set them under /dev or under /media?
[09:34] <bosco> dnkidjit, no i did that and it updated the info
[09:34] <bosco> dnkidjit, it did not give me that inof
[09:34] <slackern> loufoque: of sorry my wrong you want to send a pipe to it?
[09:34] <bosco> dnkidjit, never mind'
[09:35] <juanca7777> I have no problems with apt, The problem concerns synaptic
[09:35] <dnkidjit> bosco: oh. i guess i misunderstood. you want to see free disk space yeah?
[09:35] <robinsw> Is there an IDE for C++ on Linux?
[09:35] <robinsw> A decent one?
[09:35] <bosco> dnkidjit, yes
[09:35] <paradizelost> jvai: they are codecs.   they just tell your video/audio program how to read a file.
[09:35] <dnkidjit> df -h
[09:35] <paradizelost> jvai: it's not a program...
[09:35] <juanca7777> everytime I go to the preferences, network, and try to change the values for the proxy and hit apply/ok, the program just hangs up
[09:35] <arrick> Hey, anyone here know how to make a Boot Floppy in Windows server 2003?
[09:35] <jvai> but they stopped working, they're in here already thru easy ubuntu..
[09:36] <juanca7777> I can wait for hours but nothing happens
[09:36] <delmar> So i'm running Breezy here.. should I be upgrading to something else?
[09:36] <arrick> and I realiize this is off-topic, windows is dead though
[09:36] <robinsw> Is there an IDE for C++ on Linux? A decent one?
[09:36] <dooglus> arrick: that's a little premature.  vista didn't even launch yet
[09:36] <spikeb> robinsw: yes
[09:36] <spikeb> robinsw: kdevelop
[09:36] <robinsw> Yay!
[09:36] <juanca7777> arrick: windows WILL be dead in about one year lol
[09:36] <robinsw> Great stuff.
[09:36] <funkja> quick question (hopefully) I am trying to set up Apache on my box and I know that ubuntu comes with it installed. I messed up some of the configuration on it so I deleted the apach2 folder in /etc/. Now when I do 'apt-get install apache2' that folder does not come back... what do I need to od?
[09:36] <robinsw> Will that work with GNOME?
[09:37] <paradizelost> jvai: something could have removed them then. if you did an installl
[09:37] <jvai> i know it's not a program, i'm wondering if they are the right 1's
[09:37] <spikeb> robinsw: yes, although it's a KDE application. there's also eclipse
[09:37] <dooglus> robinsw: emacs is a good IDE too
[09:37] <robinsw> Eclipse, eh?
[09:37] <juanca7777> robinsw: Anjuta, though kdevelop works fine in gnome
[09:37] <delmar> funkja, you could try purging apache2 then re-installing.  dpkg --purge apache2 but it might break and uninstall other stuff
[09:37] <_jason> loufoque: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grep/+bug/15051
[09:37] <juanca7777> robinsw: eclipse's cdt is available as well
[09:37] <spikeb> i am looking through python/pygtk IDEs :)
[09:37] <jvai> i installed, they worked untill i changed the firefox icon back to the default from the french 1
[09:38] <roy> i have the dapper cd in the system, and im rebooting and tryin to boot from it but when it loads to the main screen asking me if i wanna install to hard drive or install a serveror resuce system etc. etc. my keyboard wont work... thnx for any help or suggestions
[09:38] <zcat[1] > apt-get install --reinstall should work
[09:38] <robinsw> Great stuff. Thanks, guys!
[09:38] <funkja> okay
[09:38] <funkja> ill try that
[09:38] <arrick> AN answer to my question would be better, and if ubuntu supported my printer all the way, or if I could write the code I wouldnt be using windows
[09:38] <jvai> then the stopped working
[09:38] <paradizelost> jvai: try doing a re-install through easy ubuntu then
[09:38] <jvai> that's a thought
[09:38] <eggzeck> loufoque, I see the -P error as well, just use egrep foo <file>
[09:39] <dooglus> arrick: you can't really expect to get windows questions answered here, can you?
[09:39] <juanca7777> arrick: what's your printer model?
[09:39] <Ayabara> could someone help me getting write access to my external usb harddrive??
[09:39] <funkja> a reinstall didn't work
[09:40] <delmar> funkja, u purged then re-installed?
[09:40] <funkja> yes
[09:40] <spikeb> hmm boaconstructer is for wx, bah
[09:40] <delmar> funkja, hell if i know then man.
[09:40] <jvai> i tried thru the terminl to install, but was told "no such file or directory"
[09:40] <dooglus> I just did an "apt-get upgrade" and it has been stuck at the same place for 30 minutes now:
[09:40] <funkja> let me try agian
[09:40] <juanca7777> anyone knows where I can post more synaptic narrow questions, besides their forums?
[09:40] <dooglus> Install a boot block using the existing /etc/lilo.conf? [Yes] 
[09:40] <dooglus> Testing lilo.conf ...
[09:40] <eggzeck> loufoque, example: egrep ^my{2} dir/file
[09:40] <dooglus> what do I need to do?
[09:40] <jvai> ima have to it it the the easy ubuntu site
[09:41] <arrick> printer is lexmark x6170, I already wrote the print driver, but its an all in one, and not supported
[09:41] <daaku> i'm seeing some strange font size issues with my laptop - when its docked, the font sizes are different than when its not (docked size 15 = undocked size 10) - anyone have any ideas why this could happen?
[09:41] <dooglus> juanca7777: if you have found bugs, you can post them on launchpad
[09:41] <juanca7777> dooglus: thanks for the pointer :)
[09:41] <jvai> but 1st, ima try these win32 coedecs .. but they are an rpm package
[09:42] <simonpca> !fixedwidth
[09:42] <ubotu> simonpca: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:42] <jvai> *crosses fingers*
[09:42] <theine> Hi, how can I actually restart the NetworkManager daemon?
[09:42] <iNiku> theine: /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[09:42] <roy> i have the dapper cd in the system, and im rebooting and tryin to boot from it but when it loads to the main screen asking me if i wanna install to hard drive or install a serveror resuce system etc. etc. my keyboard wont work... thnx for any help or suggestions
[09:42] <funkja> disconnect
[09:42] <theine> iNiku: yes, but if I don't want to restart all dbus dependent services, but only NetworkManager?
[09:42] <zcat[1] > roy: usb keyboard?
[09:43] <roy> zcat: yeah
[09:43] <zcat[1] > go into bios and set legacy usb
[09:43] <roy> ty
[09:43] <roy> :)
[09:43] <iNiku> theine: I guess there's a script for it in /etc/dbus-1/event.d
[09:43] <iNiku> look at the init script to figure it out
[09:43] <Ayabara> hmm. last try. can someone help me out with a permissions problem, or do I have to go to the fedora forum to get help? ;-)
[09:44] <theine> iNiku: ok, thanks
[09:44] <iNiku> I'm not sure you're meant to restart it alone
[09:44] <theine> iNiku: that's what I meant, "/etc/init.d/dbus restart" somehow crashes kded
[09:45] <roy> thnx zcat fixed it quick and easily!!
[09:45] <roy> :)
[09:45] <iNiku> theine: oh, hmm.
[09:45] <iNiku> strange
[09:45] <theine> iNiku: which means that kwallet dies, etc...
[09:45] <Stork> hi, how can i change which partition my grub menu is loading?
[09:45] <dumezil> whats the deal with firefox 1.5 not working in breezy??  i keep getting a segfault when i run it
[09:46] <eggzeck> dumezil, works fine for me
[09:46] <eggzeck> !ff1.5
[09:46] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:46] <iNiku> theine: hmm, works for me... I think
[09:46] <iNiku> but I'm running dapper
[09:47] <roy> im installing dapper
[09:47] <roy> :)
[09:47] <robinsw> Do I have to download Dapper in full, or does Ubuntu have some sort of Automatic update?
[09:47] <eggzeck> roy, good luck :)
[09:47] <roy> ty
[09:47] <iNiku> !update
[09:47] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iNiku
[09:47] <iNiku> er
[09:47] <iNiku> !upgrade
[09:47] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[09:47] <Stork> hi, how can i change which partition my grub menu is loading? when i boot up it says "Error 22"
[09:47] <St-> ehm, automatix for dapper exist ?
[09:47] <roy> stork: their should be a grub config file or utility
[09:47] <roy> or if necessary use lilo
[09:47] <eggzeck> automatix sucks
[09:48] <eggzeck> !automatix
[09:48] <delmar> slackern, nah gnomemeeting doesn't appear to do what i need.  I need something like that, which I can program and point to a specific SIP server for calls.
[09:48] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:48] <kbrooks> st-: no. use EasyUbuntu instead
[09:49] <St-> link ?
[09:49] <jvai> i see easy ubuntu 3. but can i use this for hoary?
[09:49] <kbrooks> jvai: No!
[09:49] <jvai> lol!!!
[09:49] <jvai> ok
[09:49] <Flannel> jvai: hoary?
[09:49] <kbrooks> Flannel: 5.04
[09:49] <jvai> yes. i'm on hoary
[09:50] <roy> i have hoary, breezy, and dapper
[09:50] <Flannel> kbrooks: I know what hoary is.  Was wondering why he's still on it.
[09:50] <eggzeck> jvai, why? Don't want to upgrade
[09:50] <roy> first time using dapper tho
[09:50] <thug> libvisual WARNING: no progname: visual_plugin_get_list(): Failed to add the /usr/lib/libvisual/transform directory to the plugin registry
[09:50] <thug> can anyone please tell me why do i get this while trying to install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg ?
[09:50] <jvai> not yet.. i'll b a year behind dapper, for stability reasons
[09:50] <Flannel> jvai: Breezy is stable.
[09:51] <jvai> & besides... hoary works wonders around the xp boxes @ work
[09:51] <roy> dapper isnt stable?
[09:51] <eggzeck> roy, not yet
[09:51] <roy> i might stick with breezy then....
[09:51] <kbrooks> roy: at the moment
[09:51] <Flannel> roy: dapper is beta still
[09:51] <eggzeck> roy, official release is in June 1st
[09:51] <pip`> hey anyone here familiar with Lumumba ??
[09:51] <zcat[1] > dapper WAS good; been having issues lately though :(
[09:51] <NoUse> thug is that what apt-get gives you?
[09:51] <eggzeck> roy, that's why I said good luck :)
[09:51] <roy> ohh
[09:51] <zcat[1] > hope they get that sorted. I should put in a few bug reports
[09:51] <jvai> i'm on a thinkpad t40 w/ 1g of ram.. beeeuatiful!
[09:51] <roy> well i hope it worx fine
[09:51] <roy> lol
[09:52] <roy> if it doesnt ill just repartition and go back to breezy
[09:52] <roy> lol
[09:52] <Flannel> roy: it should.  As long as youre not doing anything mission critical and you have backups.
[09:52] <roy> or i might use openbsd
[09:52] <g0dchild> what is a po file- and can you please tell me where i can find them?
[09:52] <Flannel> roy: but, if youre using english, its fairly stable, although there are some quirks.  Nothing deadly though.
[09:52] <roy> nice
[09:52] <simian__> i would like to experiment with xgl and compiz but will it screw up my nvidia 3D graphics?
[09:52] <Flannel> erm, english, or languages that were supported in previous versions.
[09:53] <iNiku> zcat[1] : what kind of issues?
[09:53] <jvai> i may reinstall, & do easy ubuntu from scratch
[09:53] <simian__> I mean is it possible to have both working properly?
[09:53] <eggzeck> roy, yeah don't upgrade if you're doing dev work
[09:53] <roy> ok
[09:53] <Flannel> simian__: no.  use the tectonic guide, its just a login script : http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916  but, that should be asking at #ubuntu-xgl
[09:53] <roy> no i wont be, im just gonna be using it for a spare ssh server
[09:53] <roy> :/
[09:53] <Flannel> simian__: Mine works fine ;)
[09:53] <MattH_> hello, i'm having some problems on a first-time install of ubuntu, does anyone have a moment to help me?
[09:53] <eggzeck> roy, then should be fine :)
[09:54] <jvai> i'm just gonna skip breezy & go to dapper, for that will b supported for a loooooooooong tyme
[09:54] <wendigo> roy: dapper works fine, i do programming on it
[09:54] <pip`> how do i do a channel listing ? already tried /list
[09:54] <zcat[1] > iNiku: audacity hangs, both dapper boxes.. might be using the wrong audio.. and the one with Xgl is very unstable but that might be the hardware.. it's not the best. Found it in a dumpster.
[09:54] <simian__> Flannel: thanks
[09:54] <zcat[1] > was thinking I should bring my main boy up to dapper soon..
[09:54] <pip`> #freenode-help Cannot send to channel
[09:54] <iNiku> Xgl isn't stable anyway, is it?
[09:54] <pip`> help helpp
[09:54] <thug> NoUse yes
[09:55] <zcat[1] > it was until recently.. :(
[09:55] <pip`> y doesnt this work??
[09:55] <iNiku> oh
[09:55] <NoUse> thug try running sudo apt-get -f install
[09:55] <osubuck> Hi, how hard would it be to upgrade ubuntu from 5.10 to 6.06 when it comes out?
[09:55] <osubuck> i don't want to have to burn another cd if possible
[09:55] <Flannel> osubuck: very easy.
[09:55] <pip`> i cant even talk in the help channel  help help
[09:55] <Flannel> osubuck: as easy as updates
[09:55] <jvai> hoary i can keep foreva, it's ok... no problems
[09:55] <NoUse> !tell osubuck about upgrade
[09:55] <osubuck> thanks
[09:56] <zcat[1] > osubuck: really easy.. change 'breezy' to 'dapper' in your sources.list and sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:56] <wendigo> osubuck: change your repos /etc/apt/sources.list to point to dapper isn't of breezy
[09:56] <wendigo> instead*
[09:56] <pip`> Server load is temporarily too heavy. Please wait a while and try again.
[09:56] <pip`> -
[09:56] <pip`> End of /List
[09:56] <pip`> help helppp
[09:57] <osubuck> cool thanks, that will save time when 6.06 comes in june :)
[09:57] <roy> hmm
[09:57] <iNiku> saying dapper is "unstable" is a bit misleading. yes, it's unstable in that stuff gets upgraded all the time
[09:57] <roy> im getting an error installing
[09:57] <pip`> ok how do i copy ubuntu folder to my hard drive please ??
[09:57] <iNiku> but it's not unstable in the sense that it's crashing all the time
[09:57] <roy> Debootstrap Warning
[09:57] <zcat[1] > osubuck: probably won't save much time; dist-upgrade will download a whole CD worth of packages..
[09:57] <wendigo> i use dapper all the time and it's perfectly stable from what i can tell
[09:57] <roy> Warning: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times.
[09:58] <pip`> hello can sumone HEAR me ?
[09:58] <pip`> help helpp
[09:58] <roy> ??
[09:58] <roy> pip: what is it?
[09:58] <pip`> ok how do i copy ubuntu folder to my hard drive please ??
[09:58] <Flannel> that's true.  osubuck,you might be better off downloading the iso, you can torrent it, and then have a hardcopy of dapper, if you need to reinstall/whatever.
[09:58] <NoUse> pip` please clarify your questions, what folor? what hard drive?
[09:58] <osubuck> zcat[1] , well i just don't want to use more cdr's :P
[09:58] <zcat[1] > bah, cdr's are dist cheap :)
[09:59] <zcat[1] > *dirt
[09:59] <osubuck> lol
[09:59] <mkyb14> I does anyone know why xmms can't play music over a network....?  i'm trying to play music off my windows machine which it can read, but won't play
[09:59] <wendigo> :D
[09:59] <pip`> im just starting to run lumumba off my cd player & now it says to copy the folder to the hard drive but dont say how
[09:59] <NoUse> zcat[1]  why waste oil when you don't have to? :-)
[09:59] <pip`> i assume lumumba is alot like ubuntu
[09:59] <juanca7777> mkyb14: are you behind a firewall/proxy?
[09:59] <mkyb14> nope
[09:59] <pip`> since they both sound africa
[09:59] <zcat[1] > Anyhow.. I burn off the latest beta or flight, install a box or two, then sell it on TradeMe for a profit.. sweet!
[09:59] <juanca7777> mkyb14: normally it should play out of the box
[10:00] <mkyb14> someone mentioned samba server or something
[10:00] <pip`> i never used linux b4
[10:00] <mkyb14> i dunno if that would make it work though... installed it and nothing happened
[10:00] <pip`> i have a samba explorer but cant find my hard drive
[10:00] <troop> hi, i need to run activeX , ubuntu supports ?
[10:00] <juanca7777> mkyb14: samba's for accessing windows shares
[10:01] <Flannel> troop: no.
[10:01] <pip`> im lost sorry
[10:01] <juanca7777> mkyb14: samba's for accessing file shares over window networks
[10:01] <mkyb14> which i'm trying to do inorder to play the music over the network
[10:01] <pip`> i never use linux b4
[10:01] <Flannel> troop: well, I suppose maybe under wine.
[10:01] <zcat[1] > troop: uhhh.. no. wine + msie6 + activex might work.
[10:01] <wendigo> pip
[10:01] <roy> shit!
[10:01] <wendigo> pip: what are you trying to do?
[10:01] <pip`> im running 2 computers thru one switch
[10:01] <roy> now my keyboard isnt working at all!
[10:01] <roy> dayum this
[10:01] <troop> thank, Flannel , zcat[1]  , i'll try
[10:01] <zcat[1] > btw where the hell are winetools. Still trying to figure this one out. I want msie in wine so I can dump the dualboot..
[10:02] <juanca7777> troop: yeah look the wine project, though last time I saw it wasn't supported
[10:02] <NoUse> !winetools
[10:02] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NoUse
[10:02] <pip`> one is winxp the other is a new blank hard drive & a cd of lumumba which is like ubuntu i think
[10:02] <troop> thnx juanca7777
[10:02] <Steve^> How can I make a shortcut, so that when I use /bla, it will go to /media/hdb1/bla?
[10:02] <iNiku> zcat[1] : winetools?
[10:02] <iNiku> apt-get install wine?
[10:02] <Chri[s] > sweet
[10:02] <zcat[1] > apparently to tweak wine I need winetools..
[10:02] <pip`> i put the linux cd in my 2nd computer and it starts fine but now what ?
[10:02] <juanca7777> zcat: look their new architechture
[10:02] <zcat[1] > I already have cvs wine
[10:02] <pip`> i get a nice looking desktop
[10:03] <thug> how do i ignore a pecific package not to be updated ?
[10:03] <juanca7777> zcat: it's easier to install tools
[10:03] <pip`> but then wat?
[10:03] <zcat[1] > anyone know of a howto for getting mSIE going in wine/
[10:03] <NoUse> !tell thug about pinning
[10:03] <wendigo> pip: what do you want to do exactly?
[10:03] <juanca7777> pip`: it depends on what you want to do
[10:03] <troop> winehq.com ?
[10:03] <troop> right ?
[10:03] <juanca7777> troop: right
[10:03] <troop> ok
[10:04] <zcat[1] > hmm.. I guess i could look there :)
[10:04] <pip`> i want to install my new linux lumumba os onto my hard drive of my 2nd computer
[10:04] <pip`> it said to just copy the folder to the hard drive
[10:04] <zcat[1] > pip`: join 3lumumba ?
[10:04] <pip`> u mean the site ?
[10:05] <zcat[1] > dodgy shift key ;9
[10:05] <pip`> oh u mean the channel ?
[10:05] <NoUse> pip` we support ubuntu here, we can't help with other distros
[10:05] <pip`> i cant find any channels on here cuz it says load too heavy
[10:05] <zcat[1] > NoUse: btw; what was that guy with win2003 thinking before?!!
[10:05] <pip`> NoUse, but do u know if its alot like ubuntu ?
[10:05] <juanca7777> pip`: then wait, or look over the net
[10:05] <Dutchy> I've asked it already but I didnt get a reply earlier... my numlock is off when I just booted my computer - I think Ubuntu does this, am I correct? I was wondering if I could make Ubuntu leave it on/make it go on
[10:06] <siriusnova> anyone running XGL using the open source "radeon" driver ?
[10:06] <NoUse> zcat[1]  musrt have missed that
[10:06] <mkyb14> is there a way to see if ubuntu on default install, installed a firewall?
[10:06] <jvai> any body play w/ that "nubuntu"?
[10:06] <wendigo> pip: are you in a live cd? you might need to download an install cd...
[10:06] <NoUse> pip` I've never heard of it
[10:06] <pip`> yes i think it must be live, cuz it starts up fine with nice desktop
[10:06] <zcat[1] > about a half hour ago, I was going to yell at him but had to wake the kids up for school.... :)
[10:06] <juanca7777> pip`: never heard about that distro
[10:06] <roryy> if google is to be believed, lumumba is the code name for a dyne:bolic release
[10:07] <Spec> dyne:bolic ?
[10:07] <Spec> yeah
[10:07] <wendigo> pip: see if there is an install cd version to download
[10:07] <juanca7777> pip` ubuntu has nice desktops as well :)
[10:07] <pip`> ok, well maybe i will load up ubuntu & see if it is similar then come back here to ask questions, ok thx
[10:07] <Steve^> Firstly how can I delete a link I made with ln?
[10:07] <jvai> nubuntu uses fluxbox by default, & it got mad security tools
[10:07] <zcat[1] > Steve rm
[10:07] <iamcitizen> anyone use "bcm43xx-fwcutter"?
[10:07] <Steve^> And how do I get ln to link /max or max, to the /media/hdb1/?
[10:08] <wendigo> Steve^: rm <link file>
[10:08] <juanca7777> jvai: nubuntu you say? thanks for the pointer :)
[10:08] <zcat[1] > ln -s /media/hdb1 /max
[10:08] <pip`> wendigo, well it says i can install it to my hd by simply doing a folder copy to hd, i just cant find the hd using the os explorer, thats all
[10:08] <Chri[s] > omg 285 emails !
[10:08] <jvai> yes, but i dont know how heavy nubuntu is.. the site isnt clear on it
[10:08] <Chri[s] > Why doesnt evolution have http mail servers for hotmail and such?
[10:08] <iamcitizen> nobody has a broadcom wireless card?
[10:08] <Steve^> wendigo, what if my link file is a dir?
[10:09] <jvai> http://nubuntu.org/
[10:09] <pip`> lumumba calls itself the Rasta OS by the way
[10:09] <Senilix> Chri[s] : guess microsoft won't allow that
[10:09] <iamcitizen> chris, you can't retrieve mail via http, as far as i know
[10:09] <blaze> can someone help me with setting the directory for apache2 ?
[10:09] <wendigo> pip: i would suggest downloading a install cd rather than a live cd. you could try using ubuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[10:09] <roryy> pip`: the OS name is dyne:bolic -- lumumba is just a release name, as far as i can tell
[10:09] <pip`> specializing in alt media & activism etc
[10:09] <sskroeder> Hi ... anyone here knows how i can "profile" the execution of javascript in Firefox --- On a certain news site, the javascript causes the CPU load for firefox to go from about 1-2% to about 60-65% -- and i would like to know why -- it does not happen if i disable JS, so it must be a JS thing.....
[10:09] <zcat[1] > iamcitizen: of course you can, outbreak express does it.
[10:10] <pip`> roryy, yes ok
[10:10] <wendigo> Steve^: rm -r <directory> <-- this removes a directory
[10:10] <blaze> how to set the directory for apache2 ?
[10:10] <blaze> help, please =)
[10:10] <iamcitizen> sskroeder: do you use NoScript?
[10:10] <pip`> i already downloaded ubuntu, so i will now try to install it
[10:10] <Dutchy> can anyone confirm that my message (about 30+ lines up) was read?
[10:10] <pip`> on my other box
[10:10] <Senilix> zcat[1] : outlook express is owned by microsoft. hotmail is owned by microsoft..
[10:10] <Steve^> thanks guys, works just like I want it
[10:11] <pip`> u guys r nice thx
[10:11] <blaze> Dutchy, it was read =)
[10:11] <pip`> *huggies*
[10:11] <sskroeder> iamcitizen, i havent checked whether the site uses noscript tag ...it's not my site ;-)
[10:11] <NoUse> blaze /etc/apach2/httpd.conf I believe
[10:11] <iamcitizen> nono, lol
[10:11] <Dutchy> ok cool :) about the 4th time i asked an never got a reply... :P
[10:11] <iamcitizen> NoScript is a firefox extension
[10:11] <Seveas> Hi all
[10:11] <Senilix> Dutchy: guess nobody knows, then
[10:11] <Seveas> this may be a rough ride
[10:11] <ericz> blaze, you could make /var/www a symbolic link to the directory you want to use, or edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[10:11] <iamcitizen> you can use it to enable/disable sites from using scripts
[10:12] <Seveas> I'm going to unban quite a few people
[10:12] <Dutchy> yeah... sucks :( too bad
[10:12] <Seveas> it may flood 
[10:12] <blaze> i'll try =)
[10:12] <Spec> Dutchy: yes
[10:12] <Spec> Dutchy: i think there's something called xleds
[10:13] <iamcitizen> @Dutchy
[10:13] <iamcitizen> try http://www.noscript.net
[10:13] <Spec> Dutchy: apt-get install ledcontrol
[10:13] <Spec> - scriptable keyboard led control
[10:14] <Dutchy> thanks Spec, iamcitizen, will check it out thanks
[10:14] <iamcitizen> np
[10:14] <Steve^> Ok, I'm no idiot, but latex is confusing me. Which of these files do I need to install?
[10:14] <Senilix> Dutchy: http://ubuntuguide.org/#numlockx
[10:14] <Dutchy> (about time too after asking 4 times :P haha)
[10:14] <Steve^> the dates of some seem to say there has been no update since 1992?
[10:15] <Dutchy> Senilix, thats what i was looking for :) thanks
[10:15] <avalost> hrm, anyone have any idea why the ubuntu fluxbox package does not have fluxbox-generate_menu compiled?
[10:15] <eido> hi folks, are debian 'testing' packages moved into Dapper pretty quickly?  I'm seeing an old package that debian is rpeorting as having been upgraded, but [k] ubuntu Dapper isn't showing it.
[10:16] <Seveas> eido, dapper is frozen. No new versions
[10:16] <wendigo> avalost: thats a script
[10:16] <eido> okay, any ideas why 'twinkle' is stuck at a 6-7month odl version?  or is there an easy way to get a later version?
[10:16] <theine_> eido, as far as I know, Dapper synced with Debian Unstable a few month back, but I guess the packages are still more up to date then Debian testing
[10:17] <avalost> wendigo: everytime I compile fluxbox it works, however the dapper package doesn't have it ?
[10:17] <NoUse> !info fluxbox dapper
[10:17] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.14-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 720 kB, Installed size: 2288 kB
[10:17] <NoUse> avalost its in universe
[10:17] <avalost> NoUse: thanks but that's not what I need
[10:18] <NoUse> avalost ok
[10:18] <wendigo> avalost: ill post the script
[10:18] <avalost> wendigo: thanks
[10:18] <phyzome> Alright, so... about upgrading to dapper. "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" just said "nothing to do!"
[10:19] <_jason> !upgrade
[10:19] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[10:19] <phyzome> Yeah, didn't work for me.
[10:19] <phyzome> Which was surprising.
[10:19] <NoUse> phyzome then you missed a step :-)
[10:19] <NoUse> phyzome did you update your sources.list?
[10:20] <phyzome> Ah-hah!
[10:20] <phyzome> I was surprised that was not mentioned in the instructions.
[10:20] <phyzome> Probably should be.
[10:20] <beasty> hi
[10:20] <phyzome> And where is the canonical sources list for dapper?
[10:21] <NoUse> !tell phyzome about repos
[10:21] <beasty> i got like a prob trying to get dvd's fullscreen
[10:21] <firebird619> What would cause staticy sound when accessing anything to do with my TV/FM tuner card (ex: gradio, GnomeRadio, and tvtime)? The same issue happens when accessing the FM Tuner from XMMS if the volume slider in XMMS is set anywhere above 50%. There were no problems until installing GnomeRadio.
[10:21] <blaze> Nouse, i changed the default file
[10:21] <blaze> but it didn't work
[10:21] <blaze> apache2 opens the same default directory
[10:21] <wendigo> avalost: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gTyaDW67.html
[10:21] <NoUse> blaze try symlinking /var/www to somewhere else
[10:22] <thug> can i have write permission to ntfs partition ?
[10:22] <blaze> how can i do that?
[10:22] <NoUse> thug no
[10:22] <avalost> wendigo: thanks much
[10:22] <wendigo> avalost: welcome
[10:22] <thug> NoUse so just read only ... what about fat32 ?
[10:23] <phyzome> So, there is no command to upgrade?
[10:23] <phyzome> I have to explicitly modify sources.list?
[10:23] <NoUse> thug fat32 has both
[10:23] <Seveas> phyzome, sudo update-manager -d
[10:23] <NoUse> phyzome the instructions tell you to use update-manager
[10:23] <phyzome> Seveas: I know, it didn't work for me.
[10:24] <wendigo> phyzome: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[10:24] <thug> NoUse so i can write to a fat32 partition ... cool
[10:24] <NoUse> blaze after you changed the file, did you stop and start apache?
[10:25] <phyzome> Right. Both tell me that my system is up to date.
[10:25] <wendigo> phyzome: are you upgrading to dapper?
[10:25] <phyzome> yeah
[10:26] <NoUse> phyzome how carefully did you read the instructions?
[10:26] <phyzome> I thought fairly carefully.
[10:26] <wendigo> phyzome:then you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list  - then replace breezy with dapper
[10:26] <saldb> hello there, i need some help getting pcmcia to work
[10:26] <blaze> NoUse: I didn't, how to do that :) ?
[10:26] <NoUse> phyzome it says the update manager will initially tell you that your system is up to date but that you must click "check" in order to upgrade
[10:26] <phyzome> I'm working from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[10:26] <saldb> that is, pcmcia works but i can't get my nic to work
[10:27] <avalost> wendigo: that goes in /usr/share/fluxbox correct?
[10:27] <phyzome> I did hit check, and it still said nothing to update.
[10:27] <avalost> perms a+x and chown to root too?
[10:27] <NoUse> blaze sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[10:27] <phyzome> Well, I'm just updating sources.list and updating from there.
[10:27] <blaze> NoUse, i'll try, sec.
[10:27] <cbx33> who's from the UK here?
[10:28] <wendigo> avalost: anywhere in your path will do. /usr/bin etc
[10:28] <phyzome> My question was more about the clarity of the instructions.
[10:28] <blaze> NoUse: {} thank you very much! =)
[10:28] <troop> ohhhhhhhhh bill gatesssssssssssssssssss you killed meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  "WHAT IS ACTIVE XXXX"
[10:28] <roy> ?
[10:29] <Flannel> Dutchy: I believe theres a package you can download to do the numlock thing.
[10:29] <lisi> Hi - can anyone help me with a vonage-related question?
[10:29] <Dutchy> Flannel, i've found my answer, thanks
[10:29] <Flannel> Dutchy: oh, you already got help. Sounds good.
[10:29] <Chri[s] > is    deb http://www.grawert.net/ubuntu/ warty universe a legit repo?
[10:30] <lisi> or possibly a dhcp related question - I have an idea of what the prob is (tech guy helped me fix it in win98) but not sure how to do it
[10:30] <monomaniacpat> Anyone know how to rip the audio out of a mov file?
[10:30] <NoUse> lisi what are you trying to do?
[10:30] <avalost> wendigo: perms a+x and chown to root too?
[10:31] <NoUse> monomaniacpat man mplayer, search for dumpaudio
[10:31] <lisi> I plugged in the vonage router and the phoine works but I can't access the Internet with my DSL modem
[10:31] <wendigo> avalost: ye
[10:31] <avalost> gotcha
[10:31] <monomaniacpat> NoUse: thanks
[10:31] <lisi> I spoke to tech support and the found a setting in Win98 that fixed it - changed the static IP to find IP address automatically
[10:32] <NoUse> !tell lisi about networkmanager
[10:32] <Flannel> Chri[s] : why are you still using warty?
[10:32] <g0dchild> Where can i find the option to switch to Dvorak on Preferences-> Keyboard?
[10:32] <cion> hey all how do I complete uninstall a program?
[10:32] <NoUse> lisi or just go to system -> admin -> networking
[10:33] <NoUse> lisi and set your computer to get an IP from DHCP
[10:33] <iamcitizen> Forgot my password in Dapper. How do I reset it?
[10:33] <theine_> iamcitizen, you need a live-cd for that
[10:33] <wendigo> iamcitizen: sudo passwd <username> <--- maybe
[10:34] <lisi> OK, I've got it open - how do I set it to get an IP from DHCP?
[10:34] <roryy> boot in recovery mode and run 'passwd <username>'
[10:34] <NoUse> wendigo how will that work when he doesn't know his password :-)
[10:34] <theine_> wendigo, that would only work if you actually know your password in the first pace
[10:34] <roryy> no need for live-cd
[10:34] <theine_> place
[10:34] <NoUse> !lostpassword
[10:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, lostpassword is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword
[10:34] <wendigo> well, just a guess
[10:34] <wendigo> or just recreate the user
[10:34] <theine_> right, recovery mode, very handy
[10:34] <wendigo> copy your home directory
[10:34] <iamcitizen> thanks
[10:35] <NoUse> !tell iamcitizen about lostpassword
[10:35] <iamcitizen> ?
[10:35] <cion> hey all how do I complete uninstall a program?
[10:35] <NoUse> iamcitizen check your msgs
[10:35] <NoUse> cion use synaptic
[10:35] <Enkahel> hi all
[10:36] <cion> NoUse: it doesn't completely uninstall programs
[10:36] <DeadPixel> does anyone know if files can be recovered after using dd to copy an image to a disk?
[10:36] <NoUse> cion what are you trying to get rid of?
[10:36] <cion> I uninstalled kmail, then reinstalled, all the emails where still there
[10:36] <wendigo> it's probably easier to just recreate the user rather booting recovery cd
[10:36] <cion> kontact
[10:36] <NoUse> cion your emails are stored in your home director
[10:36] <NoUse> cion ~/.kde
[10:36] <cion> oh ok
[10:37] <cion> so i can delete that folder?
[10:37] <SkedMonge> can anyone tell me if it's possible to run the Dapper install from the LiveCD ?
[10:37] <NoUse> cion if you remove ~/.kde it will erase any kde releated settings you have
[10:37] <theine_> cion, probably under ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail
[10:37] <cion> ok thx all
[10:37] <osubuck> hi, how do i mount my windows partition?
[10:37] <dazedbystander> Can anybody help me to get frequency scaling working on my computer?
[10:37] <wendigo> osubuck: /etc/fstab
[10:38] <NoUse> !tell osubuck about ntfs
[10:38] <LinuxJones> SkedMonge: there should be a link on the desktop to the new gui installer
[10:38] <AlmtyBob> how do I get tightvnc to run at startup?
[10:38] <blaze> NoUse, i have one more problem - I cant start skype.. i install it correctly and .. it just doesn't load when i start the skype icon
[10:38] <osubuck> thanks
[10:38] <NoUse> !tell blaze about skype
[10:38] <SkedMonge> LinuxJones: Thanks, I'll try and get it past hanging from the LiveCD then, it seems to get stuck after configuring X
[10:39] <LinuxJones> AlmtyBob: system >> prefs>> sessions >> start pgms
[10:39] <pier_> hi
[10:39] <pier_> have a link to show how to install KDe on Ubuntu?
[10:39] <AlmtyBob> LinuxJones: that will start it as soon as my pc boots? I'm going to being running a headless box
[10:39] <NoUse> !tell pier_ about kde
[10:40] <LinuxJones> AlmtyBob: when you log into gnome.
[10:40] <AlmtyBob> heh, that defeats the purpose, this box won't have a monitor/mouse/kb
[10:40] <AlmtyBob> so right now I have to ssh in at boot and start tightvnc
[10:41] <pier_> the?
[10:41] <pier_> then?
[10:41] <LinuxJones> AlmtyBob: you can create a script and put it into /etc/init.d/ make it executable then do update-rc.d scriptname defaults. Whatever is in the script will run at every boot.
[10:41] <NoUse> pier_ select kde from the gdm session when logging in
[10:42] <osubuck> Ignoring /dev/hdc1 - already in /etc/fstab
[10:42] <osubuck> No usable windows/mac partitions found
[10:42] <AlmtyBob> linuxjones: so I can put just one line in there like "vncserver start" and that will do it?
[10:42] <osubuck> thats the error i got when i tried to mount my windows partition
[10:42] <AlmtyBob> is your windows partition ntfs?
[10:42] <NoUse> osubuck then you windows partition is already mounted
[10:42] <osubuck> yesh
[10:42] <NoUse> osubuck run 'mount'
[10:42] <wendigo> osubuck: sudo cfdisk
[10:42] <cion> hey all anyone knows how to export a calendar in html format with evolution?
[10:43] <osubuck> how come i can't access it from the desktop then?
[10:43] <osubuck> The folder contents could not be displayed.
[10:43] <AlmtyBob> when did linux get ntfs support?
[10:43] <LinuxJones> AlmtyBob: yes
[10:43] <AlmtyBob> thanks linuxboy
[10:43] <pier_> #ubuntu-it
[10:43] <NoUse> AlmtyBob its had read support for years
[10:43] <AlmtyBob> ...LinuxJones
[10:43] <LazyMukke> is their an ubuntu ppc channel ?
[10:44] <gnu2it2> how do i setup to telnet to another box with sco ansi color support ?
[10:44] <||arifaX> AlmtyBob: and the captive driver is in my opinion savest way to write to ntfs
[10:44] <LazyMukke> if not i'll just ask here
[10:44] <saldb> i keep getting this siocsifaddr: no such device error. what am i doing wrong?
[10:44] <LinuxJones> AlmtyBob: I like creating my own script for things like firewall settings, and other misc stuff. It keeps everything in one spot rather than messing about with different scripts.
[10:44] <kayla> ..........
[10:44] <osubuck> i don't understand why i can't access the partition
[10:44] <Jemt> Greets. I have setup VMWare today. It uses my secondary Network adapter as bridge. Unfortunately, I cannot get internet to work on both my network cards - and VMWare just won't use my secondary network card.
[10:45] <Jemt> How do I get internet access on both cards ?
[10:45] <NoUse> osubuck run 'mount' and pastebin the output
[10:45] <NoUse> !tell osubuck about pastebin
[10:45] <wendigo> osubuck: either permissions or you didn't mount it correctly
[10:45] <osubuck> it has to do with permissions
[10:45] <osubuck> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdc1".
[10:45] <wendigo> osubuck: add user,users in /etc/fstab options for windows mount
[10:46] <xpc> sziasztok
[10:46] <xpc> valaki magyar van itt??
[10:46] <Jemt> Sorry, I is not JUST internet access - it's network access. When my primary NIC is online, my secondary dosn't work - and the other way around too
[10:46] <xpc> hungarian..
[10:46] <xpc> nagy baj van
[10:46] <Jemt> And VMWare and Ubuntu just don't seem to be able to share one
[10:46] <Jemt> And NAT dosn't work
[10:46] <SkedMonge> if I can't get the LiveCD to boot, ie it just hangs, can I kick start the installer ?
[10:47] <xpc> magyarok
[10:47] <XiXaQ> SkedMonge, Breezy?
[10:47] <xpc> haho
[10:47] <xpc> please
[10:47] <osubuck> wendigo,  how do i do that
[10:47] <wendigo> osubuck: sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[10:47] <osubuck> thsnk
[10:47] <osubuck> thanks
[10:48] <roryy> !hu
[10:48] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu.hu
[10:48] <wendigo> osubuck: you added windows mount in fstab already right?
[10:48] <osubuck> i don't know how to do that
[10:48] <NoUse> wendigo he ran the automount script and it found it in fstab
[10:48] <SkedMonge> XiXaQ: I've got Ubuntu ^.06 LTD (Dapper Drake) Flight 7
[10:48] <SkedMonge> 6.06
[10:48] <xpc> thank you  roryy
[10:48] <xpc> 6j #ubuntu.hu
[10:49] <wendigo> osubuck: /dev/<partition name> /mnt/windows ntfs defaults,user,users,umask=000 0 0
[10:49] <xpc> #ubuntu.hu in 1 user...
[10:49] <XiXaQ> SkedMonge, you know that's a betarelease, right?
[10:49] <NoUse> wendigo its already in his fstab
[10:49] <wendigo> osubuck: add line in fstab
[10:49] <LazyMukke> !nl
[10:49] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[10:49] <wendigo> NoUse: the script clearly isn't working then
[10:50] <SkedMonge> XiXaQ: Yeah I know it's beta, wanted to get a feel for it
[10:50] <XiXaQ> SkedMonge, have you verified the cd? Are you experienced with Ubuntu?
[10:50] <osubuck> ehhh
[10:50] <NoUse> wendigo do you know how to script works? if it finds the partition there, it doens't make any changes
[10:50] <NoUse> wendigo if you add the same parition twice in fstab, I'm sure thas not gonna make things any easier
[10:50] <wendigo> NoUse: i use hand editing i don't use obscure scripts
[10:50] <SkedMonge> XiXaQ: don't think it likes my old Laptop. I ran the CD Checking that was on the LiveCD menu, and it was fine. I'm a first time user.
[10:50] <osubuck> didn't know things would be so complicated
[10:50] <NoUse> wendigo its the script recommended by this channel, if you want to call if obscure go for it
[10:50] <saldb> does anyone know anything about tulip_cb.o ?
[10:51] <master1> hey i have a question how do you get quicktime
[10:51] <wendigo> osubuck: ok, paste the contents of your fstab in paste bin
[10:51] <XiXaQ> SkedMonge, then you SHOULD NOT use betaversion. Dapper Drake is still buggy and there are lots of fixes yet to be released. Download Breezy Badger and wait for the official release.
[10:51] <osubuck> shouldn't it just automatically mount?
[10:51] <JinRoh> Hello
[10:52] <SkedMonge> ok XiXaQ
[10:52] <SkedMonge> thanks
[10:52] <master1> hey i have a question how do you get quicktime
[10:52] <wendigo> osubuck: i don't use that script so i couldn't comment
[10:52] <NoUse> osubuck not with proper permissions, its fixed in dapper
[10:52] <osubuck> lovely
[10:52] <AlmtyBob> what's a good program to burn files to dvd-r in gnome?
[10:52] <XiXaQ> SkedMonge, however, if you know what's wrong, and you can replicate the error, remember that bughunters are always popular. :)
[10:52] <wendigo> osubuck: easier to hand edit :)
[10:53] <Industrial> I have a little problem with apache: http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/880/screenshot8tg.png
[10:53] <osubuck> NoUse, any ideas then?
[10:53] <wendigo> osubuck: paste bin your fstab ill have a look at it for you
[10:53] <LinuxJones> AlmtyBob: I use gnomebaker
[10:53] <NoUse> osubuck I've been asking you to pastebin the output of 'mount' for like 15 minutes :-)
[10:54] <wendigo> osubuck: http://rafb.net/paste/
[10:54] <SkedMonge> XiXaQ, I assume I want the 5.10 release ?
[10:54] <Industrial> oh i shotted the wrong part
[10:54] <Industrial> sec
[10:54] <osubuck> nevermind thanks anyway, i'll just use windows
[10:54] <master1> hey i have a question how do you get quicktime
[10:54] <master1> hey i have a question how do you get quicktime
[10:55] <Industrial> http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3010/screenshot1pu.png
[10:55] <Industrial> there
[10:55] <NoUse> !tell master1 about quicktime
[10:55] <SkedMonge> And what's better for me to use, the instal CD or the LiveCD ?
[10:55] <wendigo> NoUse: maybe next time you should recommend a script that doesn't work :(
[10:55] <XiXaQ> SkedMonge, yes. That's the current version. the next version is scheduled to be released in june. 5.10 means October 2005. 6.06 means June 2006.
[10:55] <wendigo> shouldn't*
[10:55] <NoUse> osubuck I can fix this, if you want to cooperate
[10:55] <master1> that doesnt really help
[10:55] <osubuck> ok what do i type then,
[10:55] <NoUse> wendigo it works but it doesn't make changes to an fstab line that already exxists
[10:55] <osubuck> then i'll paste the output
[10:55] <NoUse> osubuck run 'mount' and put it in pastebin
[10:56] <NoUse> osubuck don't paste
[10:56] <NoUse> !pastebin
[10:56] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:56] <osubuck> i know, i'll use pastebin
[10:56] <NoUse> wendigo the script comes from the official wiki
[10:56] <thug> where do i get libpng and libpng-dev ?
[10:56] <dooglus> dapper's beta was out a few weeks ago, and then a new alpha was released - shouldn't alpha come before beta?
[10:56] <eggzeck> master1, apt-cache search quicktime
[10:57] <eggzeck> master1, but vlc should suffice
[10:57] <eggzeck> master1, along with w32codecs
[10:57] <osubuck> http://rafb.net/paste/results/1eKQP864.html here
[10:57] <thug> !mplayer
[10:57] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:58] <kingb> hi guys ... how do you update a package in ubunto (need to upgrade cups)?
[10:58] <Industrial> Can anyone help me with my apache? the terminal should say enough: http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3010/screenshot1pu.png
[10:58] <Industrial> kingb: did you try looking in the gnome menu? (topleft of screen)
[10:58] <NoUse> osubuck ok, can you run 'sudo nano -w /etc/fstab', you'll see a line that starts with /dev/hdc1
[10:59] <IceflamePhoenix> hmph, my ubuntu post-cd install has stopped on 83%, configuring ttf-indic-fonts\
[10:59] <wendigo> kingb: sudo apt-get update
[10:59] <NoUse> osubuck then a section that starts with defaults; is there an option that looks like umask=xxxx ?
[11:00] <wendigo> kingb: sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:00] <master1> how do you change which cd rom drive is the main one
[11:00] <Awesome-o2000> what do I need to install  libstdc++5?  I'm trying to install the ati driver but I seem to be lacking the libstdc++5 package
[11:00] <kingb> wendigo: no, i mean actually want to go into the 'unstable' or whatever you call it
[11:00] <eggzeck> Industrial, seems like you have an error in the config file. Should be in <VirtualHost *> tag
[11:00] <Enkahel> I'm trying to configure Xgl, and I have some issues with dual screen
[11:00] <Enkahel> I have a nvidia, a CRT (main) and a LCD (secondary) with twinview conf
[11:00] <wendigo> kingb: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:00] <Enkahel> on Xorg, fullscreen apps fit to the main monitor only, which is good
[11:00] <Enkahel> but Xgl consider that the 2 screens are 1, so apps resolution in fullscreen become 2560x1024
[11:01] <Enkahel> (which is annoying because of the real separtion of the 2 screens on my desktop)
[11:01] <Industrial> eggzeck: I am impressed. thats what i just uncommented
[11:01] <Enkahel> Does anyone have a clue about this problem ?
[11:01] <kingb> wendigo: i just want to install an unstable cups, no other packages
[11:01] <Enkahel> I looked on the web, but I didn't find any, just a thread where someone said "Yes! It's working, I have 2 cubes!" but doesn't give conf files an method to do it
[11:01] <eggzeck> Industrial, :)
[11:01] <master1> how do you change which cd rom drive is the main one
[11:01] <master1> how do you change which cd rom drive is the main one
[11:01] <roy> the little switch on them
[11:01] <roy> :P
[11:01] <roy> u move th jumper to the left usually
[11:02] <arrick> master1, by there location on the ide cable, as well as the jumper setting
[11:02] <trich> trying to mount a drive, Iget this error; smbfs/init_mount: execv of /usr/bin/smbmnt failed. Error was Permission denied.smbmnt failed: 1
[11:02] <trich> any suggestions please.
[11:02] <arrick> it should be marked MA for master and SL for slave
[11:02] <wendigo> trich: use sudo
[11:02] <Senilix> trich: sudo?
[11:02] <arrick> try sudo
[11:02] <Cruel_dog> hi
[11:02] <selinium_> Seveas: /query ompaul
[11:02] <NoUse> osubuck you still there?
[11:02] <trich> hmmm ok
[11:02] <eggzeck> Industrial, you don't need to necessarily uncomment it, you just need to make sure it's the right IP, and it might need a NameVirtualHost <IP>
[11:02] <selinium_> ?
[11:03] <Senilix> hi, Cruel_dog
[11:03] <Cruel_dog> How do you make that you ABSLUTELY need a valid account to connect?
[11:03] <osubuck> yea im here, but don't worry about it NoUse, its alright
[11:03] <roy> wtf?
[11:03] <NoUse> osubuck ok
[11:03] <trich> I used sudo
[11:03] <trich> same error
[11:03] <eggzeck> Industrial, something like: <VirtualHost IP:80>
[11:03] <kingb> how does one upgrade cups in ubunto to the unstable branch?
[11:03] <roy> ok im tryin to install breezy, when i hit enter trying to boot from cd every time it says kernel panic
[11:03] <roy> :(
[11:03] <roy> ???
[11:03] <Senilix> Cruel_dog: connect to what?
[11:03] <wendigo> trich: what command are you using?
[11:03] <Cruel_dog> to linux
[11:03] <Cruel_dog> the login
[11:03] <Industrial> eggzeck: http://pastebin.com/708251
[11:03] <trich> sudo smbmount //moosehead/music /home/mark/music
[11:04] <Cruel_dog> when u login, u can put anything, and it logins
[11:04] <Cruel_dog> how you do that you need an account to login?
[11:04] <Industrial> eggzeck: that's what i uncommented. ofcource its my own fault and i didnt read any docs.. just wanted to quickly enable user dirs :P
[11:04] <wendigo> trich: // isn't a vaild path is it?
[11:04] <trich> isnt it :/
[11:05] <eggzeck> Industrial, haha.
[11:05] <wendigo> trich: where is moosehead located?
[11:05] <Senilix> Cruel_dog: login at the computer when it boots or over the network?
[11:05] <Cruel_dog> no
[11:05] <Cruel_dog> when you boot the computer
[11:05] <trich> how isnt it?
[11:05] <wendigo> trich: a usb drive or something?
[11:05] <Cruel_dog> the login menu appears, right?, you need to login
[11:05] <trich> wendigo, its a network drive
[11:05] <trich> a drive on my winXP pc
[11:05] <Cruel_dog> you put anything there, it logs you in
[11:05] <Industrial> eggzeck: but i also cant stop it....
[11:06] <Cruel_dog> i want that you absolutely need an account
[11:06] <wendigo> trich: oh. don't know then sorry
[11:06] <Industrial> httpd (pid 8485?) not running
[11:06] <Industrial> :S
[11:06] <eggzeck> Industrial, what does it tell you when you attempt to stop it?
[11:06] <Senilix> Cruel_dog: this screen? http://blog.eax.fr/images/blog/installation-ubuntu/20-ecran-login-gdm-ubuntu.jpg
[11:06] <trich> wendigo, well according to the wiki it is right
[11:06] <trich> :<
[11:07] <trich> mabye the permissions for smbmount should be changed?
[11:07] <Awesome-o2000> can someone please help me get the ati drivers installed ? Im trying the instructions but it keeps telling me that I'm missing lots of packages
[11:07] <trich> but I don't know what to, it's set to 666 right now
[11:07] <Leonox> hi
[11:07] <Industrial> eggzeck: same as restart in the screenshot
[11:07] <Cruel_dog> yes
[11:07] <Awesome-o2000> I have followed the instructions...
[11:07] <Cruel_dog> that screen
[11:07] <wendigo> trich: i'm not sure i've never used smbmount
[11:07] <Industrial> eggzeck: i just made /home/tom/public_html and /~tom works though
[11:07] <Leonox> I'm a noob
[11:07] <big-ben> how does one upgrade just one package in ubuntu to the unstable branch?
[11:07] <trich> ok fair enough :)
[11:07] <Industrial> Leonox: good to know.
[11:07] <trich> thanks anyway wendigo
[11:07] <toodles> Awesome-o2000, you probably need to add the multiverse and universe repositories
[11:07] <trich> :)
[11:07] <Industrial> Leonox: or something..
[11:08] <Cruel_dog> Yes, senilix, that screen
[11:08] <roy> ok im tryin to install breezy, when i hit enter trying to boot from cd every time it says kernel panic
[11:08] <Senilix> Cruel_dog: try gksudo gdmsetup
[11:08] <Seveas> selinium, ?
[11:08] <Cruel_dog> k
[11:08] <eggzeck> Industrial, does it still give you that error after you fixed the problem?
[11:08] <Industrial> roy: cool! :P
[11:08] <Awesome-o2000> toodles, I did - just not the backports
[11:08] <roy> not really
[11:08] <roy> :/
[11:08] <selinium> sorry Seveas That wasn't aimed at you. But you could probably help! :)
[11:09] <saldb> how could i change what driver my pcmcia card is bound to?
[11:09] <Leonox> how can I be Super User in a Terminal?, I'm using the live cd version
[11:09] <Industrial> eggzeck: well there wasnt really a critical problem.. its working at all.. i just cant restart or stop it >_o
[11:09] <Senilix> Leonox: sudo -i
[11:09] <Awesome-o2000> uh oh - now it says my software database is broken
[11:09] <selinium> Seveas: I was thinking of asking you,then I was trying ompaul instead.
[11:09] <Cruel_dog> Hmmm
[11:09] <Cruel_dog> that doesnt help
[11:09] <Seveas> hehe
[11:09] <Cruel_dog> it doesnt make iut thgat you NEED an account
[11:09] <Leonox> it aks me for a password... _
[11:09] <Cruel_dog> if u try any name, it logs youy in
[11:10] <Cruel_dog> brb
[11:10] <Senilix> Cruel_dog: have you turned on automatic login or something?
[11:10] <toodles> Awesome-o2000, Thats odd. You should need the backports. You've used the instudctions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[11:10] <ale_> hello there
[11:10] <Industrial> Leonox: I recommend searching the ubuntu website for GFAQ's and intro guides
[11:10] <Industrial> FAQ's*
[11:11] <Cruel_dog> ah
[11:11] <Cruel_dog> yes
[11:11] <selinium> Seveas: I asked this in +1 but, I have just updated to dapper but all my desktop settings are the same so it all looks the same :(   I was wondering if there was a easy way of rectifying it?
[11:11] <toodles> Awesome-o2000, sorry, I ment should NOT need the packports
[11:11] <Cruel_dog> brb
[11:11] <Seveas> selinium, change your theme to human
[11:11] <eggzeck> Industrial, that's weird. I don't use Ubuntu+Apache, I use Debian+Apache, so I wouldn't know if the configs are the same. But try adding a <VirtualHost IP:80> and then <Directory dir/> within it. You must find where the ::80: is though (seems malformed)
[11:11] <Seveas> and your background to the ubuntu default
[11:11] <ale_> can somebody give me a  help configuring X and my external LCD?
[11:11] <Senilix> ale_: what is the problem?
[11:11] <Industrial> eggzeck: ok
[11:12] <ale_> ciao Senilix
[11:12] <ale_> may we open a private chat?
[11:12] <Senilix> ale_: i prefer not.. i won't be here for long
[11:12] <TheFuzzball> how do you run an application with your own title?
[11:12] <TheFuzzball> for instance kopete -title IM
[11:12] <saldb> cause my /etc/pcmcia/config file says one thing, but my card seems to get bound to the wrong module
[11:12] <NoUse> ale_ if you just ask your question, you'll get 700+ eyes on it :-)
[11:12] <Senilix> ale_: just ask your question and wait for an answer ;)
[11:13] <senegalese> 749x2 eyes hihi
[11:13] <selinium> Seveas: cheers fo r that, but my top bar does not have the user switcher. How do I sort that?
[11:13] <NoUse> senegalese clever
[11:13] <ale_> ok
[11:13] <Seveas> selinium, you may need to install it
[11:14] <senegalese> :)
[11:14] <Seveas> selinium, install this one: fast-user-switch-applet - fast user switch applet
[11:15] <ale_> My problem is to get the proper resolution for an external LCD 21".  I?m using a notebook that has a native resolution of 1680x1050 but the external LCD works at 1600x1200
[11:15] <ablyss> anyone have any luck running belkin wireless network adapters?
[11:15] <ale_> I don't wanto to use them together. Just one or the other
[11:16] <ale_> but even if in my xorg.conf I have set all the resolutions, I don't have the 1600 one avaiilable
[11:16] <Senilix> ale_: which driver for x.org?
[11:16] <ale_> fglrx
[11:16] <selinium> Seveas: not found
[11:16] <saldb> ahh won't anyone answer me???
[11:16] <Spec> saldb: because this is not paid support.
[11:16] <Seveas> !info fast-user-switch-applet dapper
[11:16] <ale_> ati radeon 9700
[11:16] <ubotu> fast-user-switch-applet: (fast user switch applet), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 2.14.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 380 kB, Installed size: 1736 kB
[11:17] <saldb> yea i guess not
[11:17] <NoUse> saldb what was your problem?
[11:17] <saldb> i'm trying to get this pcmcia card working.
[11:18] <saldb> according to d-link it should be using tulip_cb but pccardctl keeps telling me its bound to pcnet_cs
[11:18] <NoUse> saldb does it create a network device?
[11:19] <ramvi> Heya. I have a problem, need serious help. I'm in shell now with bitchX. I tried to install Xgl as told on the wiki, but at the rebootpart kde stopped and now it won't start back up
[11:19] <ramvi> So I'm stuck in shell
[11:19] <saldb> in dmesg i get a message telling me that eth0 got inserted
[11:19] <saldb> shit i just ran cardmgr and it spit out a lot of weird shit
[11:19] <ramvi> I bet it was the overwrite file thing that did it. How do I go back?
[11:19] <IceflamePhoenix> why would my post-cd ubuntu install stop at configuring ttf-indic-fonts?
[11:19] <ramvi> (And is it possible to play mp3s in shell?)
[11:20] <ramvi> Please anyone. I need to get kde working again
[11:20] <Senilix> ramvi: yes. mpg321 in universe
[11:21] <Spec> mplayer
[11:21] <Spec> can play mp3s in a shell as well
[11:21] <ramvi> Well Senilix :)
[11:21] <ramvi> Great!
[11:21] <Spec> mplayer can play movies in shell - rendering it in ascii
[11:21] <WildZeck> ramvi, dpkg-reconfigure kde
[11:22] <WildZeck> or ramvi apt-get install kedit
[11:22] <WildZeck> or
[11:22] <WildZeck> ramvi, dpkg-reconfigure kde-core
[11:22] <ramvi> thanks!
[11:22] <selinium> Seveas: did you get that /query?
[11:23] <ramvi> Now I reboot? I got "unable to open display" when typed startkde
[11:23] <Awesome-o2000> I installed the ati drivers, I set up xorg.conf, but I dont seem to be USING my fglrx driver
[11:23] <Awesome-o2000> I was wondering how to start up my system WITHOUT starting up the gui?
[11:24] <ramvi> hehe
[11:25] <joh> Hmm, anyone experienced that their Super (windows logo) key doesn't work under Xgl/compiz?
[11:25] <Spec> Awesome-o2000: when booting, in grub press 'e' over the kernel line, and add an 'S' to the end of the kernel -- you'll start in single user mode
[11:25] <ompaul> Awesome-o2000, well if you changed your name it would be easier to deal with you, first off install in the gui "bum" use that to stop gdm then log out of gnome/kde/other enjoy to start it again do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:25] <sm> hey all, what's the simplest package I can install to allow mail sending ? (providing /usr/sbin/sendmail)
[11:25] <rab> i cant install thunderbird
[11:25] <Awesome-o2000> install bum?
[11:26] <Spec> Awesome-o2000: what is it you're trying to do?
[11:26] <ompaul> Awesome-o2000,  yes it is a program, boot up manager
[11:26] <Awesome-o2000> ompaul, thank you - what is wrong with my nick?
[11:26] <Spec> awe-tab is too hard to type
[11:27] <ompaul> real estate it is so long that it pushes the conversation into the middle of the screen
[11:27] <Awesome-o2000> Spec, trying to get X/Gnome running with the ATI driver, the one from Seveas site
[11:27] <Spec> so just stop X?
[11:27] <Spec>  in command line: /etc/init.d/gdm stop will stop X and gdm... :p
[11:27] <Spec> why would you need to boot without X?
[11:27] <Seveas> ompaul, "the elderly" you mean?
[11:27] <Spec> haha
[11:28] <ompaul> Seveas, no just 40+ with tired eyes
[11:28] <Seveas> potayto potahto
[11:28] <ompaul> Seveas, Spud!
[11:28] <Seveas> heh 
[11:29] <rab> i need help instALlign mozilla thunderbird
[11:30] <NoUse> rab what trouble are you having?
[11:30] <NoUse> rab should just be sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[11:30] <rab> no
[11:30] <rab> i want 1.5x
[11:30] <ompaul> rab, you really don't need it but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:31] <rab> thats firefox
[11:32] <simonpca> http://bash.org/?207373 ==> excellent :D
[11:32] <NoUse> rab wait two weeks :-), its in dapper
[11:32] <rab> grrrr
[11:32] <ompaul> rab, ahh, sorry we don't have instructions for that
[11:32] <rab> wait
[11:32] <rab> dappers in 2 weeks?
[11:32] <NoUse> rab yeah, june 1
[11:32] <Spec> compile it from scratch.
[11:32] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:32] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[11:33] <ompaul> Spec, it will take two weeks to compile :)
[11:33] <IceflamePhoenix> ok
[11:33] <IceflamePhoenix> um
[11:33] <_jason> ompaul: we do
[11:33] <_jason> !thunderbird1.5
[11:33] <ubotu> methinks thunderbird1.5 is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[11:33] <IceflamePhoenix> i've asked my question a couple times, does anyone have any idea? or am i just screwed?
[11:33] <ompaul> _jason, ahh good
[11:33] <Spec> simonpca: haha
[11:33] <Spec> ompaul: it will not :p
[11:33] <Spec> ompaul: well, at least, not on a dual dualcore system with 12 gigs of ram
[11:34] <Spec> maybe only one week
[11:34] <mwe> thunderbird 1.5.0.3 is crashing a lot for me.
[11:34] <Spec> IceflamePhoenix: what's your question?
[11:34] <ompaul> mwe, good call - rab  see what mwe said
[11:35] <cafuego> Spec: people have no business running X on such systems
[11:35] <simonpca> Spec: was it a real laught?
[11:35] <Spec> simonpca: yes, bash.org is amusing
[11:35] <Spec> cafuego: Yeah - but you can compile it and transfer the binaries
[11:35] <simonpca> Spec: yeah, my first visit, because i read bashFR, which is in french ;-)
[11:36] <poningru> mwe: it is?
[11:36] <cafuego> Spec: That's a bit insecure, hackers could modify them in transit
[11:36] <Spec> well, a good reason for running X on a system like that
[11:36] <Spec> LTSP baby
[11:36] <arrick> besides making /etc/resolv.conf a read only file (which doesnt work) is there any way to make ubuntu quit rewriting the /etc/resolv.conf file at every boot?
[11:36] <Spec> with 12 gigs of ram - think about how many clients you could have
[11:37] <ompaul> Spec, I have some idea what that is like - ftp.heanet.ie
[11:37] <Spec> 24 clients, each with half a gig of ram to themselves, 48 with each a quarter gig of ram to themselves, all they really need is 128, that's 96 clients, pretty sexy
[11:37] <cafuego> arrick: chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[11:37] <arrick> cafuego, is that a comand?
[11:38] <Spec> no, it's a memory
[11:38] <cafuego> Spec: 96 clients running thunderbird - ona  single dual core cpu? Ha!
[11:38] <cafuego> arrick: yes
[11:38] <Spec> hey, i said dual dual core cpu
[11:38] <arrick> ok thanks
[11:38] <Spec> err, even so, 96 clients would be suffering
[11:38] <Spec> but the memory's there
[11:38] <stoft> question: (running newly installed 6.0.6), is there a way to make ubuntu always mount a usb drive to the same mount point, e.g. /media/sda1, even though that drive is not the first usb-drive mounted?
[11:39] <sharms> stoft - why would you want to do that
[11:39] <ompaul> Spec, cafuego  http://ftp.heanet.ie/about/
[11:39] <obelix> hi !
[11:39] <cafuego> omg! the dell logo has made me blind!
[11:39] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone know where I can find a tutorial on how to create icons? http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Creating_Icons/ was good, but it was only one example...
[11:40] <ompaul> cafuego, a little shiney?
[11:40] <stoft> sharms: I have all my mp3:s on an external drive that I take with me, I also have other drives that I mount. don't like having to redefine the search path to my mp3:s in Amarok...
[11:40] <Spec> hey, stoft
[11:40] <Spec> i need the answer to that question
[11:41] <obelix> I would to test Ekiga... with my routeur, somebody can call me at obelix @ ekiga.net
[11:41] <Spec> I have a friend who has a usb palm pilot(or various other brand), and it needs to be associated with the same dev node each time it's plugged in
[11:41] <obelix> thx :D
[11:41] <Spec> that server is ugly
[11:41] <NoUse> stoft you might try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RenameUSBDrive
[11:41] <cafuego> ompaul: It radiates evil, I can't look at it
[11:41] <stoft> seemed like 5.10 mounted my drives to /media/<drive name> (e.g. LACIE), 6.0.6 puts the device node instead.
[11:42] <stoft> thnx NoUse, I'll take a peek
[11:42] <Spec> cafuego: I'm forced to use dells as well :-/
[11:42] <ompaul> cafuego, it is ie.archive.ubuntu.com and it shares raid space with some less savoury things
[11:42] <Spec> they haven't sucked too badly though
[11:43] <NoUse> stoft the other option is creative a udev rule, so you can always have the drive symlinked to /dev/musicdrive or something
[11:43] <obelix> nobody wants to test Ekiga with me ? :(
[11:43] <sharms> I think a more ideal solution is that amarok makes use of dbus notification and automatically adds the drive
[11:43] <rab> is there any way to "clean" ubuntu
[11:44] <ompaul> rab, what does clean mean?
[11:44] <NoUse> rab what do you mean? remove unused packages?
[11:44] <Spec> dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/<harddrive>
[11:44] <stoft> NoUse: any reference off the top of your head for udev rules?
[11:44] <Spec> err, what do you mean by ... 'clean'..?
[11:44] <stoft> spongebath? :)
[11:45] <WildZeck> dpkg -l [less --> note useless soft and after apt-get remove --purge uselesspackages rab
[11:45] <NoUse> stoft http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[11:45] <rab> ompaul no, i just 'tryed' to install thunderbird and it linked stuff and added files to /opt/ any way to un link them and remove them without doing sudorm [everyfile] 
[11:45] <simonpca> another cool one http://bash.org/?9322
[11:45] <IceflamePhoenix> Spec - [22:19:37]  <IceflamePhoenix> why would my post-cd ubuntu install stop at configuring ttf-indic-fonts?
[11:45] <IceflamePhoenix> console 4 says something
[11:45] <Spec> IceflamePhoenix: oh, sorry, i dont' know.
[11:45] <IceflamePhoenix> intitialising package status... done
[11:45] <IceflamePhoenix> E; dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem (x2)
[11:45] <stoft> thnx nouse
[11:45] <NoUse> rab check for an uninstall script, otherwise probably not
[11:45] <IceflamePhoenix> i'm guessing that happened when i hit reboot
[11:46] <Spec> IceflamePhoenix: why not just run dpkg --configure -a ?
[11:46] <spikeb> !info kmymoney breezy
[11:47] <gnomefreak> IceflamePhoenix: please dont paste in channel use pastebin
[11:47] <ompaul> rab, so you just randomly installed stuff, did not make it and use checkinstall, then you have to parse the install script and look for the parts that have been dropped around your system
[11:47] <Spec> gnomefreak: what if i'm pasting things into this channel and you don't even know it? This message could've been pasted...you'd be none the wiser <malicious laugh>
[11:47] <IceflamePhoenix> ok =)
[11:47] <IceflamePhoenix> anyways, any ideas?
[11:48] <Spec> IceflamePhoenix: dpkg --configure -a
[11:48] <IceflamePhoenix> i tried to run it, it says i need superuser privileges, but it doesn't like my password
[11:48] <onezerone> when is exa support supposed to land in the i810 driver?
[11:48] <WildZeck> same
[11:48] <ompaul> Spec, cos that won't work
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Spec: you know better
[11:48] <IceflamePhoenix> Spec ^
[11:48] <ompaul> IceflamePhoenix, sudo in front of that
[11:48] <Spec> what wong' work?
[11:48] <Spec> if sudo isn't liking your password - how do you expect to become root?
[11:48] <IceflamePhoenix> dpkg --configure -a
[11:48] <Spec> if you can't become root - how do you expect to solve a problem with dpkg?
[11:48] <ompaul> Spec, this is ubuntu, remember we don't do su we do sudo
[11:49] <ompaul> !rootsudo
[11:49] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:49] <Spec> hey, i didn't say su
[11:49] <IceflamePhoenix> don't confuse me =)
[11:49] <Spec> IceflamePhoenix: type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:49] <ompaul> IceflamePhoenix, do this >> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:49] <IceflamePhoenix> ok
[11:49] <IceflamePhoenix> it seems to have liked the password this time
[11:49] <IceflamePhoenix> what did sudo do?
[11:49] <MattH_> how can i give myself owner privileges?
[11:50] <NoUse> Spec you can try the wiki page for resetting your password
[11:50] <_jason> MattH_: chown
[11:50] <NoUse> !tell Spec about lostpassword
[11:50] <Spec> Am I really a bad person because I enjoy using `sudo su -`?
[11:50] <_jason> MattH_: you should only use that command on things inside your $HOME
[11:50] <Spec> NoUse: i know how to reset my password :p
[11:50] <MattH_> i'm just trying to move a folder into /opt
[11:50] <MattH_> and it won't let me
[11:50] <MattH_> says i don't have the permission
[11:50] <_jason> MattH_: use sudo
[11:51] <ompaul> Spec, much worse than that - never suggest it in the channel - offer people the wiki and let them work out how to do it
[11:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell MattH_ about sudo
[11:51] <MattH_> so there's no way to edit my user so i can just plop that file in tehre
[11:51] <MattH_> *there
[11:51] <GMullen> is there a way to turn off or adujust the click on mousepad tap for laptops
[11:52] <GMullen> because my computer is clicking WAY to manytimes
[11:52] <onezerone> xorg.conf
[11:52] <TheFuzzball> how do you run an application with your own title?
[11:52] <Spec> ompaul: i would never suggest anyone to switch into root :)
[11:52] <_jason> MattH_: you would have to give him permission.  Using groups maybe?  It's best to let root handle things outside your $HOME though
[11:52] <ompaul> Spec, as I like to say, what you do in the privacy of your own CLI is your business, tell our users about wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo and then we know how they are configured
[11:52] <MattH_> thanks!
[11:52] <Spec> ompaul: i just imply they should be root, or have equivalent-root-privileges
[11:52] <zcat[1] > found winetools. looks good so far..
[11:52] <ompaul> Spec, leave it alone, the subject is done to death
[11:52] <ana86> i
[11:52] <ana86> hi
[11:53] <ompaul> kane77, why log into the channel twice
[11:53] <ompaul> ahhh now all is known
[11:53] <eggzeck> haha
[11:53] <kane__> ompaul, sorry... I didn't do it intentionaly
[11:53] <Bilange> mirc? ;(
[11:54] <ana86> how can i mount a network folder? i edit the fstab file, but when i say mount .... ubuntu says to me "ERROR: Unable to open credentials file!
[11:54] <ana86> "
[11:54] <cion> hey guys i need to use kontact with local language, how do I do that?
[11:54] <wendigo> ompaul: just a ghost
[11:54] <ompaul> kane__, :-) hey enjoy it, twice the ubuntu
[11:54] <kane__> hi... how do I set my wireless network connection to activate it at startup... It used to be like that but then it changed... and it's a drag to do it each time manually...
[11:55] <wendigo> kane__: /etc/network/interfaces possibly
[11:55] <kane__> wendigo, what there?
[11:55] <wendigo> kane__: sudo nano -w /etc/network/interfaces :)
[11:55] <daryl> what is the install command to install a rpm file?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> daryl: no deb for it?
[11:56] <daryl> dpkg something?
[11:56] <daryl> gnomefreak, nope
[11:56] <cion> hey guys i need to use kontact with local language, how do I do that?
[11:56] <wendigo> !tell kane__ about wifi
[11:56] <gnomefreak> daryl: not for rpm :(
[11:56] <eggzeck> daryl, dpkg is for debs
[11:56] <|Sivik|> daryl: did you figure out your xgl fixed?
[11:56] <ana86> can anybody help me?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> daryl: what package?
[11:56] <ana86> please
[11:56] <daryl> sivik, yes i bought a nvidia
[11:56] <daryl> rpm -iv jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.rpm
[11:56] <spikeb> haha
[11:56] <|Sivik|> daryl: lol, thats hard for me since the ati is in the laptop on the mobo
[11:57] <gnomefreak> !javadebs
[11:57] <gnomefreak> !+javadebs
[11:57] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:57] <gnomefreak> daryl: ^^^ debs for java ;)
[11:57] <Senilix> ana86: what did you enter to fstab?
[11:57] <daryl> gnomefreakt hanks
[11:57] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:57] <wendigo> kane__: specifically the section called: Adding it to /etc/network/interfaces look at your private messge from bot
[11:57] <|Sivik|> why can't i get wine to install in ubuntu dapper?
[11:58] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:58] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[11:58] <ana86> /192.168.1.9/E	/media/redmp smbfs credentials=/root/.smbcredentials	0	0
[11:58] <ana86> that
[11:58] <ana86> thaks
[11:58] <zcat[1] > |Sivik|: go to source-o-matic and add the bleeding edge wine repo
[11:58] <zcat[1] > !source-o-matic
[11:58] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:58] <ana86> i have install samba and other samba utilities
[11:59] <stoft> NoUse: thnx, udev rules seems spot on what I'm looking for, I'll have to continue tomorrow though. nn
[11:59] <eggzeck> You could install rpm package manager in Ubuntu though
[11:59] <eggzeck> I've never tried it. But it is possible :)
[11:59] <zcat[1] > possible perhaps. Good idea? probably not..
[11:59] <Senilix> ana86: ls -l /root/.smbcredentials
[11:59] <NoUse> stoft no prob