[12:00] <eggzeck> zcat[1] , I agree
[12:00] <zcat[1] > haha.. after hours trying to get MSIE downloaded and installed under wine, I see that winetools has it as an option.. one click!!
[12:00] <Senilix> ana86: does the file exist?
[12:01] <ana86> no
[12:01] <zcat[1] > almost all components or MSIE and wMP.
[12:01] <spikeb> zcat[1] : hahaha
[12:01] <Senilix> ana86: then add it with gksudo gedit /root/.smbcredentials
[12:01] <zcat[1] > linux is easy when you know where to find things..
[12:01] <zcat[1] > findingthings is hard :)
[12:01] <wendigo> zcat[1] : why on earth would you want to use IE ? :P
[12:02] <Senilix> ana86: and add contents according to -A in man smbclient
[12:02] <zcat[1] > wendigo: I devop websites. For some silly reason people insist that they work in MSIE.
[12:02] <wendigo> zcat[1] : fair enough :)
[12:02] <ana86> sorry, what?
[12:02] <Senilix> ana86: http://pastebin.com/708366
[12:02] <wckdkl0wn> i want to update ubuntu to make it kubuntu
[12:02] <ana86> thaks
[12:02] <wckdkl0wn> how do i go about doing that?
[12:02] <wckdkl0wn> what all do i put into terminal?
[12:03] <wendigo> wckdkl0wn: sudo apt-get install kbuntu-desktop?
[12:03] <wendigo> kubuntu*
[12:04] <Mortuis> I found via google that I can use "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb" to mount my usb flash drive, however this gives me read-only access.  Is there a way I can mount it so that users can modify the content of the flash drive.
[12:04] <Mortuis> ?
[12:04] <arrick> yes
[12:05] <cion> hey guys i need to use kontact with local language, how do I do that?
[12:05] <Senilix> Mortuis: does it give root read-only access?
[12:05] <arrick> chmod -R +w /mnt/usb
[12:05] <arrick> Mortuis, ^^
[12:05] <daryl> gnomefreak, i'm having a hard time understanding what to add in my repository.  is this it?  deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas java
[12:05] <Mortuis> Senilix: root has full access
[12:05] <Senilix> Mortuis: try sudo touch /mnt/usb/testfile
[12:05] <zcat[1] > arrick: don't guess..
[12:05] <kbrooks> arrick: wrong
[12:05] <rab> will dapper have this in it?
[12:05] <rab> http://torn.hyptonicfilms.com/blah.png
[12:05] <gnomefreak> daryl: just download the deb for java nad dpkg -i file.deb
[12:05] <Seveas> dark, try mirror.ubuntulinux.nl but otherwise correct
[12:05] <Seveas> daryl*
[12:06] <Senilix> Mortuis: look at the options for vfat i mount(8)
[12:06] <wendigo> Mortuis: an easy way would be to put an entry in fstab. sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[12:06] <Mortuis> Ideally I'd like to be able to mount it with permissions for users so I can just put the commend in an icon I can double-click whenever I plug it in.
[12:06] <gnomefreak> rab: do you mean the program blender?
[12:06] <wckdkl0wn> ok after it is all set for kubuntu how do i update it with the newest updates
[12:06] <Mortuis> wendigo: It's one of those key-fob things, it isn't always in.
[12:06] <wendigo> Mortuis: thats fine it still works
[12:06] <Senilix> Mortuis: you know there exists automounters? :)
[12:06] <wendigo> Mortuis: i use it on mine
[12:07] <rab> gnomefreak, no different images for the menu bar, and the menu bar in windows
[12:07] <arrick> zcat[1] , kbrooks it worked on mine
[12:07] <zcat[1] > Mortuis: put it in fstab with the 'user' option.. that way any user can mount it and they'll have permission. also perhaps umask=0
[12:07] <gilianima> totem-gstreamer doesn't work, I get the following error msg: You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. when I load the file: http://www.tv-radio.com/ondemand/france_inter/13_14/13_1420060509.ram
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Seveas: /me scared to tell people to add your repos (i thought daryl was on dapper) i never know anymore
[12:07] <gilianima> despite that I have installed w32codecs
[12:07] <Bilange> who's the owner of ubotu's web interface? I think I found some minor bug...
[12:07] <Seveas> gnomefreak, breezy-seveas/java works on dapper as well
[12:07] <gnomefreak> rab: i havent seen it yet but i havent looked for it do you know the name of it?
[12:07] <Mortuis> Senilix: I don't see anything happen when I plug it in, so I figured any automounter wasn't working
[12:07] <Seveas> soon I have proper dapper repos
[12:07] <gilianima> someone knows that problem ?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh ok ty Seveas
[12:07] <rab> gnomefreak, its int eh picture
[12:08] <rab> the*
[12:08] <wckdkl0wn> what do i change the repositories to so i can install more then whats there?
[12:08] <wendigo> Mortuis: /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat defaults,user,users 0 0
[12:08] <Senilix> Mortuis: ok.. well.. do like zcat[1]  told you :)
[12:08] <gnomefreak> rab: hold that thought looking again
[12:08] <zcat[1] > I should probably read up this stuff before I really screw it up :)
[12:08] <wendigo> Mortuis: then you can just do mount /mnt/usb as a user
[12:09] <wendigo> Mortuis: just add that line to fstab
[12:09] <gnomefreak> ok looks like the bender website is open in firefox on the gnome desktop
[12:09] <gnomefreak> blender even
[12:09] <rab> look at what i have circled
[12:10] <ompaul> R1CHARD, dapper working for you?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> rab: you have file edit view and so on circled
[12:10] <vmadmin> hello
[12:10] <wendigo> Mortuis: you might also consider using auto as the file system type, just incase it's not going to be fat
[12:10] <gnomefreak> and the web address
[12:10] <R1CHARD> las ompaul
[12:10] <Mortuis> wendigo: Okay, I added that to fstab.  Does that mean it'll magically mount when I plug it in now or I gotta issue a command?
[12:10] <R1CHARD> but, I need a stable version, no testing
[12:10] <rab> gnomefreak, yes.... look at the different images from the menu bar from the rest of the taskbar
[12:10] <Bilange> last-call repeating: who's the owner of ubotu's web interface? I think I found some minor bug over there
[12:10] <wendigo> Mortuis: usually you have to mount it manually, but try it anyway
[12:10] <_jason> rab: it will be stable in 2 weeks
[12:11] <cge> Does anyone know if there is a program like screen that does vertical splits instead of just horizontal splits?
[12:11] <ompaul> R1CHARD, well it will be stable in two weeks, otherwise you have to go back to 5.10
[12:11] <vmadmin> just set up postfix which is running but when i telnet from my machine connection was refused
[12:11] <wendigo> Mortuis: gnome might automatically mount it for you
[12:11] <gnomefreak> trab the little dot looking thing to the left of the webaddress?
[12:11] <ana86> wooo
[12:11] <ana86> its works
[12:11] <ana86> thakss!!!
[12:11] <rab> _jason, do you see what i mean?
[12:11] <ompaul> R1CHARD, the other option is update nothing for two weeks and then do updates or if something breaks see if there is a new version of it
[12:11] <gnomefreak> thats the only image i see
[12:11] <cge> vmadmin: you mean from the machine running postfix? Does smtp show up in netstat -lt?
[12:11] <_jason> rab: oops, that was a name-completion error
[12:11] <ana86> Senilix, thanks, i am new
[12:12] <wendigo> Mortuis: even if you have to mount it, it's as easy as doing: mount /mnt/usb
[12:12] <vmadmin> cge: http://pastebin.ca/54614
[12:12] <Senilix> ana86: you're welcome.. feel free to ask more if my answer didn't help you or if you have other questions :)
[12:12] <_jason> rab: I can send you a screenshot of what mine looks like... not sure what you mean
[12:13] <Industrial> nn
[12:13] <rab> h/o
[12:13] <Mortuis> wendigo: Awesome, that worked.  Thanks!
[12:13] <daryl> gnomefreak: i am on dapper
[12:13] <daryl> gnomefreak, should I not have installed that?
[12:13] <Mortuis> Senilix: Thanks
[12:13] <Mortuis> zcat[1] : Thanks
[12:13] <gnomefreak> daryl: no its fine contiune
[12:13] <wendigo> Mortuis: :)
[12:13] <rab> _jason, http://torn.hyptonicfilms.com/Screenshot-1.png
[12:14] <ana86> well i gona sleep, good nigths
[12:14] <cge> vmadmin: and when you telnet localhost 25 it is refused? Have you tried telnetting in from another machine?
[12:14] <daryl> gnomefreak, I installed it, but the java display still says "click here to download plugin" when browsing this page.
[12:14] <gnomefreak> daryl: you dpkg -i it?
[12:14] <Mortuis> wendigo: do I need to do unmount /mnt/usb or will it take care of that when I pull it?
[12:14] <daryl> gnomefreak: java runtime environment is what i need
[12:15] <daryl> gnomefreak: yes
[12:15] <daryl> gnomefreak it had dependencie issues, that I resolved
[12:15] <wendigo> Mortuis: it should unmount it for you
[12:15] <Mortuis> wendio: thanks again
[12:15] <Mortuis> *wendigo
[12:15] <gnomefreak> daryl: type in terminal sudo update-alternatives --config java    than pick the number of the new java you installed
[12:15] <spikeb> daryl: you having problems with java and firefox on dapper?
[12:15] <_jason> rab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i13728
[12:15] <daryl> spikeb: yes
[12:15] <spikeb> daryl: i did too
[12:15] <spikeb> daryl: and i couldnt figure it out
[12:15] <IceflamePhoenix> ok, in network settings, my wireless connecting isn't coming up, but, it works ok in windows, is that a driver issue?
[12:16] <rab> _jason, i cant see anything
[12:16] <spikeb> i noticed the JRE i wanted to use and FF were compiled with different versions of gcc though
[12:16] <mjr> IceflamePhoenix, highly likely
[12:16] <IceflamePhoenix> where's a good place to look for drivers?
[12:16] <daryl> spikeb: so your java not working?
[12:17] <R1CHARD> ompaul, the only that i can do, is nothing, and save a backup
[12:17] <rab> _jason, dont you see the different images on the taskbar?
[12:17] <daryl> spikeb: i do not want to use friggin ie...
[12:17] <gnomefreak> rab: we need to know what images you mean the space you have circled is blank if you look at his screenshot
[12:17] <ompaul> R1CHARD, it is an option
[12:17] <gnomefreak> daryl: run tthe command i gave you pelase
[12:17] <rab> _gnomefreak, LOOK AT THE PICTURE
[12:17] <daryl> gnomefreak: i did, and it came up with 3 options.  I wasn't sure what to pick.
[12:18] <mjr> IceflamePhoenix, probably you'd need ndiswrapper (though it really depends on what you got), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:18] <gnomefreak> rab: i did other than the files the menu bar and the taskbar thats it
[12:18] <gnomefreak> rab: if you have it on breezy 10 to 1 its gonna be on dapper
[12:18] <vmadmin> cge: ok when i type local host yes thats ok when i type open mydomian  25 it says trying then my ip address but not connecting
[12:18] <_jason> rab: I can't tell what images you are talking about.  Here try this one: http://web-cygnus.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/Screenshot.png
[12:18] <daryl> gnomefreak:       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[12:18] <daryl> *     2        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[12:18] <daryl>  +    3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[12:18] <rab> gnomefreak, the taskbar is composed of 2 images
[12:18] <gnomefreak> daryl: its not installed
[12:19] <snooo> does anyone know how to change or remove a network place in nautilus? the UI is pretty inflexible once one is established
[12:19] <cge> vmadmin: oh
[12:19] <kane__> wendigo, thanx..
[12:19] <vmadmin> cge give it a go
[12:19] <daryl> gnomefreak, i'm just going to go add the deb to source list, brb
[12:19] <cge> vmadmin: have you looked in the config file to see if it is set to only listen on lo? That is quite possible.
[12:19] <ndazza> are there vim 7.0 debs yet?
[12:19] <rab> _jason, you cant see the different images from the gnome menu bar  "where applications places and system is" and the rest of the bar?
[12:20] <vmadmin> cge: which config file?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> no rab
[12:20] <gnomefreak> thats what ive been trying to tell you
[12:20] <azurehuesofblue> I think I'm being attacked by a turkish hacker am I loosing my mind or what?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> to the right of system there is nothing
[12:20] <rab> ....
[12:20] <cge> vmadmin: main.cf or master.cf, not sure.
[12:20] <rab> well i see different images
[12:20] <IceflamePhoenix> t/y mjr
[12:20] <snooo> anybody
[12:20] <snooo> ?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> rab: all we see is the ubuntu sign applications places and system
[12:20] <Senilix> vmadmin: master.cf
[12:21] <_jason> rab: I see the same as gnomefreak
[12:21] <vmadmin> cge: i think its main.cf but what am i looking for  please
[12:21] <daryl> gnomefreak: its add all sorts of other java packages.  i'll see what it does.  brb
[12:21] <astriskmanish> can any one tell me how to install kde on ubuntu
[12:21] <gnomefreak> hb daryl
[12:21] <_jason> astriskmanish: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <rab> gnomefreak, right after system,it goes into a 2 TONE image , like the background. The menu bar is a 1 tone background
[12:21] <zcat[1] > bah; setup was unable to install all the components .. same old.. I was hoping it would work this time.
[12:22] <vmadmin> Senilis ok master.cf what am i looking for
[12:22] <cge> vmadmin: I'm not sure, unfortunately. I have never used postfix in ubuntu - I've only used in in Debian.
[12:22] <gnomefreak> rab: i dont see that but you can change the bar to be any color (if not most) and even kind of transpaernt
[12:23] <azurehuesofblue> theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/./Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:23] <azurehuesofblue> ???
[12:23] <rab> gnomefreak, this is hopeless
[12:23] <daryl> gnomefreak: is there going to be a problem w/the fact that i'm running dapper?
[12:23] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:23] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:23] <azurehuesofblue> I looked it up and it said something about turkish hackers lol
[12:23] <gnomefreak> daryl: not sure he said its ok so go for it
[12:23] <daryl> gnomefreak: thanks man
[12:23] <Senilix> vmadmin: (master.cf is for the process that listens to ports and controls all the other processes in postfix, while main.cf is the configuration file for all other processes)
[12:23] <gnomefreak> daryl: ompaul is right please ask all dapper related questions in #ubuntu+1
[12:24] <daryl> gnomefreak: i normally do, but its been dead lately
[12:24] <_jason> rab: if you make your terminal transparent does the menu stay grey?
[12:24] <cge> vmadmin: inet_interfaces maybe?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> daryl: im in there is you need help just type my name and if im here ill see it
[12:24] <gnomefreak> always better to ask channel not person so try them first
[12:25] <cge> vmadmin: yes, that looks like it could be the problem.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> _jason: it turns 2 tone here
[12:25] <vmadmin> Senilix: if i pastebin it can you take a look?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> since breezy (that ive noticed)
[12:25] <_jason> gnomefreak: in dapper it becomes transparent
[12:25] <Senilix> vmadmin: sure
[12:25] <gnomefreak> _jason: the menu items too?
[12:26] <vmadmin> cge: what is the problem?
[12:26] <_jason> gnomefreak: the background
[12:26] <Jazy84> hey guys i mounted a ntfs file system under /mnt/F and i can't read it with my user, i've done a chmod 777 /mnt/F and chown <userName> /mnt/F
[12:26] <Jazy84> any ideas?
[12:26] <cge> vmadmin: Is inet_interfaces set in main.cf?
[12:26] <_jason> gnomefreak: I'm just talking about applications.. places.. system menu
[12:26] <gnomefreak> _jason: thats what i meant the middle gets transparent but both sides stay same
[12:27] <vmadmin> cge: i will pastebin both files main.cf and master.cf
[12:27] <sameer> hi guys
[12:27] <cge> vmadmin: ok
[12:27] <rab> _jason, gnomefreak, www.torn.hyptonicfilms.com/FUCKINGMENUBAR.png
[12:27] <_jason> rab: language please
[12:27] <gnomefreak> rab: language
[12:27] <_jason> rab: did you see my question?
[12:28] <rab> just look
[12:28] <_jason> rab: I did, I know what you are talking about
[12:28] <gnomefreak> i see system and than just an offwhite to the right of it
[12:28] <rab> 2 tone
[12:28] <rab> if you dont see a change your blind
[12:29] <Spec> there are three tones in that picture?
[12:29] <zcat[1] > i see a change.. system is flat, the rest of the menubar has some slight shading.
[12:29] <rab> yea the image
[12:29] <Jazy84> damn i still get that it's read only even when i do chmod -R 777 dir
[12:29] <_jason> rab: it doesn't happen on dapper: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/Screenshot-1.png
[12:29] <arrick> wow
[12:29] <rab> because
[12:29] <rab> its nto a different theme
[12:30] <rab> not*
[12:30] <rab> the menu bar on the taskbar always corrisponds with the ones in the windows. I wanted to know if i could change the menubar background in the taskbar and have the one in the windows a different background
[12:31] <_jason> rab: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/Screenshot-2.png
[12:31] <rab> its not the same thing
[12:32] <andersbr> My employer says I need to upgrade to MySQL 5.0 (spatial indexing features).  How do I do that within the package management system?
[12:32] <_jason> rab: ? the menu bar is a different color and it matches
[12:32] <rab> tha uses a system background just with a modified color
[12:32] <azurehuesofblue> The "turkish hacker" idea isn't holding much water... could someone nice and knowledgable look at this code pleaze?? http://pastebin.com/708417
[12:32] <rab> use a theme with a image as a background
[12:32] <_jason> rab: link to one?
[12:33] <rab> http://torn.hyptonicfilms.com/Gray-Flat.tar.gz
[12:33] <Jazy84> can anyone please help on changing permissions on a mounted drive?
[12:34] <_jason> rab: yes, it still happens
[12:35] <rab> that sucks
[12:35] <_jason> rab: I'd say it is the themes fault
[12:35] <Jazy84> shouldn't chmod work?
[12:35] <Jazy84> >
[12:36] <rab> no
[12:36] <rab> i say its gnomes fault
[12:36] <_jason> rab: because with that theme, the menu list doesn't become transparent
[12:36] <rab> alway customibility
[12:36] <_jason> other themes do
[12:36] <rab> thats what linux is all about
[12:36] <rab> being different
[12:36] <wendigo> Jazy84: use fstab, or just the options switch of mount to specify user,users
[12:36] <splif> is anyone using apache2 on a ubuntu box?
[12:36] <Jazy84> alright
[12:36] <Jazy84> thanks
[12:37] <paladinhugo> splif, sure
[12:37] <paradizelost> rab: actually, i'd have to say it's about having something that tends to not BSOD
[12:37] <vmadmin> cge: i will leave it for now the master .cf and main.cf should be ok as i have saved then from a prevoius install a week ago the only diffrence is now i have ubuntu server instead of  full distro and vmware ports are open according to router so i am not sure  will try again perhaps tomorrow
[12:37] <paradizelost> and doesn't cost me $700 for the OS and the Office package alone..
[12:37] <splif> paladinhugo, do you know anything about transfer encoding : chunked?
[12:37] <cge> vmadmin: They are filtered according to nmap for me.
[12:38] <vmadmin> cge: what is filtered?
[12:38] <_jason> rab: compare: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/Screenshot-3.png http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/Screenshot-4.png
[12:38] <splif> does anyone know how to disable chunked tranfer encoding? i just built up a new web server and can't get it to send the content-length of a file.
[12:38] <cge> vmadmin: port 25. In fact, most things seem to be filtered.
[12:39] <cge> vmadmin: And I know my side isn't doing any filtering.
[12:39] <vmadmin> cge: how did you test it
[12:39] <cge> vmadmin: nmap
[12:40] <vmadmin> cge: if you look at the pastebin there are various things going on at smtp
[12:40] <paladinhugo> no splif, sorry
[12:40] <andersbr> Can anyone tell me if fakeroot can be used for installing things other than Sun's JVM?
[12:40] <rab> yea?
[12:41] <cge> vmadmin: strange.
[12:41] <_jason> rab: gray-flat is not allowing for transparency
[12:41] <vmadmin> cge; i will shutdown  and try again
[12:41] <Senilix> andersbr: fakeroot (1)         - run a command in an environment faking root privileges for file manipulation
[12:41] <cge> vmadmin: ok
[12:41] <vmadmin> cge: give me a few mins
[12:41] <scsihead> any ideas why a SCSI disk would be detected as only 512 BYTES (i assume thats the blocksize of the device).. or alternatively as a 512 byte disk and 4 seperate 1.1gb disks if multiple LUNs are turned on in BIOS? (on an adaptec 8945 host)
[12:41] <capiCrimm> argh, damn sudo. I just changed my user group and forgot I had to add sudoers or whatever to the list... any workarounds?
[12:41] <Senilix> andersbr: have a look at installwatch
[12:42] <_jason> capiCrimm: reboot in recovery mode and add yourself to the admin group
[12:42] <cge> capiCrimm: booting into single user
[12:42] <capiCrimm> _jason, recovery mode gives me root?
[12:42] <_jason> capiCrimm: yes
[12:43] <_jason> capiCrimm: adduser your_username admin   <-- that's the command you want
[12:45] <capiCrimm> _jason, done, thanks. I'll have to be more careful to remember when I'm on deb and when I'm on ubuntu.
[12:46] <theCore> splif: which version of apache are you running?
[12:46] <splif> theCore: apache 2.2
[12:47] <theCore> splif: can you pastebin an example of your server header?
[12:47] <splif> theCore: where would I find that ?
[12:47] <Flannel> well, somewhere the net is dying.
[12:47] <Awesome-o2000> I have installed the drivers and reconfigured my xorg.conf, but I am still unable to load/use my fglrx driver. Can anyone help me figure this out please?
[12:48] <Awesome-o2000> I followed the directions on the ubuntu wiki
[12:48] <ompaul> Awesome-o2000, if you have done it correctly CTRL + ALT + Backspace after the choosing the correct driver and it should work
[12:48] <vmadmin> hi
[12:48] <theCore> splif: `nc localhost 80' in the terminal, then type "GET /" (without the quotes)
[12:49] <goonie> hey guys
[12:49] <Awesome-o2000> ompaul, ok, I'll give it one more try I guess
[12:49] <theCore> splif: HEAD actually
[12:49] <cge> vmadmin: Why do you have X11 running with tcp?
[12:49] <solid_liq> my apt-get won't upgrade or install any software.  It keeps giving me this error: http://pastebin.com/708432     and the suggested fix doesn't work.  Anyone know how I can fix it?
[12:49] <vmadmin> cge: the only thing that has changed is that now i have a static connection not DHCP
[12:49] <R1CHARD_0ff> tatiana+
[12:49] <vmadmin> no idea
[12:50] <ompaul> solid_liq, you did something and now it wants you to "apt-get -f install"
[12:50] <Senilix> HEAD / HTTP/1.1\nHost: hostname.tld\nConnection:close\n\n (where \n is enter) :)
[12:50] <cge> vmadmin: Is this just a default server install, or did you remove -nolisten tcp?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> solid_liq: yeah what ompaul said :(
[12:50] <solid_liq> ompaul: right, and apt-get -f install doesn't work either
[12:50] <vmadmin> vnc server xtightviwerer
[12:50] <scsihead> any ideas why an 8.6gb seagate SCSI disk would be detected as only 512 BYTES by the partition tool?
[12:51] <ompaul> solid_liq, okay so stick sudo in front of it >> sudo apt-get -f install <<
[12:51] <solid_liq> well, it does something, but it doesn't fix it
[12:51] <vmadmin> cge: no not to my knowledage
[12:51] <theCore> splif: bizzare, I don't the header too ... give me a sec to find this out
[12:51] <solid_liq> ompaul: I'm logged in as root :D
[12:51] <gnomefreak> solid_liq: what did it do?
[12:51] <splif> theCore: when i did get / it returned nothing and when I did a get head it returned a 400
[12:51] <vmadmin> i think ssh is ok
[12:51] <goonie> I need some advice. I need to ghost my hard drive onto a larger drive. I did this and I can't get grub to work again
[12:51] <cge> vmadmin: You really probably want to filter port 6001 then, since it is probably terribly insecure.
[12:52] <solid_liq> here's the end of what apt-get -f install shows me:      http://pastebin.com/708451
[12:52] <gnomefreak> solid_liq: what ubuntu version?
[12:52] <solid_liq> latest stable
[12:52] <gnomefreak> 5.10?
[12:53] <ompaul> solid_liq, no that is a dapper package
[12:53] <are> Problem with dapper on Thinkpad T40: while working in X everything hangs some milliseconds all the time (with some random time between). It seems to be Xorg that uses cpu (seen with top). Can anyone help?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> thats what i thought too
[12:53] <ompaul>  /mirror/dapper/pool/multiverse/libf/libfame/libfame-0.9_0.9.0-0.1_i386.deb
[12:53] <Spec> 9 hour day - i'm done.
[12:53] <gnomefreak> solid_liq: dapper isnt stable
[12:53] <gnomefreak> lol ompaul
[12:53] <eliyahu> Could I report a seemingly serious security bug (in Dapper Beta) here, or do you guys rather have a bug report (Ijust don't really feel like making an account)
[12:53] <solid_liq> ompaul: I have some sources which provide backports from dapper
[12:53] <gnomefreak> !bug
[12:53] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[12:53] <vmadmin> cge ok i will look at that] 
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ^^^ eliyahu
[12:54] <theCore> splif: ok, I got it
[12:54] <theCore> splif: GET / HTTP/1.1 (newline) Host: localhost
[12:54] <levander> has anyone ever gotten a response from reporting a bug on launchpad?
[12:55] <cge> vmadmin: Ok, I still see port 25 as filtered. Let me try from another system.
[12:55] <gnomefreak> levander: all the time you need to subscribe to the bug to get an email from it
[12:55] <_jason> levander: many times.  Why, what's up?
[12:55] <theCore> levander: I get an email, if there is any changes to the bug report
[12:55] <JaZy84> okay this is what i have in my fstab /dev/hdb1      /mnt/F           auto    user,noauto             0       0
[12:55] <theCore> s/I/You/
[12:55] <levander> i just reported that udftools doesn't work about a year ago, and never really got a response other than along the lines of "being looked into"
[12:55] <JaZy84> then in my bash_profile for the user i have mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/F
[12:55] <gnomefreak> levander: check the bug number in launchpad and subscribe to it if you havent already
[12:55] <theCore> splif: got it?
[12:55] <levander> gnomefreak: i did
[12:55] <JaZy84> but i still get access denied when it mounts
[12:56] <splif> theCore: after I did that its still waiting for input
[12:57] <_jason> JaZy84: why do you ahve auto and noauto?
[12:57] <theCore> splif: press Enter
[12:57] <JaZy84> not sure
[12:57] <JaZy84> was just googling
[12:57] <_jason> JaZy84: oh auto is the fs type
[12:57] <JaZy84> yeah
[12:57] <JaZy84> it's ntfs drive
[12:57] <_jason> ubotu: tell JaZy84 about ntfs
[12:57] <_jason> JaZy84: take a look at the permissions table on the wiki page ubotu just sent you
[12:57] <JaZy84> thanks
[12:58] <splif> theCore: alright I got the info, should I just paste it here or is there a better way for you
[12:58] <_jason> JaZy84: and is there any reason you have the mount command in your bash_profile?
[12:58] <JaZy84> no, i suppose not
[12:58] <theCore> ubotu tell splif about pastebin
[12:58] <cge> vmadmin: Hmm... I get port 25 as filtered everywhere I try - I've tried from 207.210.65.172, 192.94.73.2, and my system here.
[12:58] <_jason> JaZy84: if you change 'noauto' to 'auto' it will mount it everytime you boot
[12:59] <JaZy84> but it will mount under root no/
[12:59] <JaZy84> ?
[12:59] <_jason> JaZy84: that's what the page I sent you is for
[12:59] <JaZy84> :)
[12:59] <sjbrown> what am i doing wrong here:
[01:00] <sjbrown>  if [ "s"="j" ]   ; then echo "asdf"; fi
[01:00] <sjbrown> the test is always returning true
[01:00] <zenit> you need some space around =, like if [ "s" = "j" ] ; then ...
[01:00] <splif> theCore, alright i pastebin'd it
[01:01] <cge> could someone else try telnetting into port 25 on vmadmin's system?
[01:01] <sjbrown> thanks.  knew it was something silly
[01:01] <zenit> no problem. Bash is very picky about such things.
[01:02] <cge> vmadmin: you probably need to check your firewall settings. What does iptables -L show?
[01:02] <vmadmin> cge: not sure yet will look into it
[01:02] <cge> vmadmin: ok
[01:02] <Elektrochelovek> iptable -L lists vats ir set
[01:02] <Elektrochelovek> *whats
[01:02] <Elektrochelovek> shows the rules
[01:02] <eggzeck> cge: it lists all rules
[01:03] <eggzeck> cge: you can use 'man iptables' to learn more about it.
[01:03] <vmadmin> cge; thanks for your support
[01:03] <cge> eggzeck: what?
[01:03] <eggzeck> :/
[01:04] <cge> eggzeck: oh I see. I  worded that in a rather ambiguous manner.
[01:04] <eggzeck> cge: haha.
[01:05] <cge> eggzeck: But vmadmin seems to have bigger problems than that. He says that the server install is mostly default, but X is listening on TCP, while most of the safer things (ssh,smtp) are filtered.
[01:06] <fourat> how to get vlc ? wich repositorium should i use ?
[01:06] <eggzeck> cge: ubuntu does not filter by defualt
[01:06] <crimsun> !info vlc
[01:06] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[01:06] <eggzeck> cge: make sure he has openssh-server installed
[01:07] <eggzeck> cge: that will allow others to ssh into his box
[01:07] <fourat> crimsun, i know it :)
[01:07] <fourat> just seeking for its deb reposito
[01:07] <eggzeck> cge: so he should: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:07] <splif> theCore: you still there?
[01:08] <arrick> anyone, where can I get universal free DNS IP addresses from?
[01:09] <eggzeck> cge: without openssh-server, if I tried: ssh -l <username> <ip> it would timeout or say connection refused.
[01:09] <arrick> I've been given a couple in here, but I need to put them into the new server, cause I am configging a WINSERV03 hd for work
[01:09] <cge> eggzeck: netstat -lt shows ssh, whereas nmap on my machine shows that it is filtered. But actually it appears he might be running under vmware!? Why didn't he tell me that. Oh well, he's left anyway.
[01:10] <eggzeck> cge: haha. But remember, ssh and ssh server are two diff things :)
[01:10] <cge> eggzeck: Yeah, but it is netstat -lt showing it as listening on *:22.
[01:11] <eggzeck> cge: well the port shouldn't be filtered by default. Either way he's gone :p
[01:11] <arrick> _jason, can yo uanswer my question?
[01:12] <gilianima> what is the command to know all packages containing the term gstreamer ?
[01:12] <_jason> arrick: if you count ``I don't know'' as an answer :P
[01:12] <arrick> haha ok _jason
[01:12] <sanzky> hi, does anyone here has installed fung-calc under dapper?
[01:12] <arrick> man where di DBO, IdleOne, and Bimberi go to?
[01:12] <Flannel> gilianima: apt-cache search gstreamer
[01:13] <ShellMaza> question, has any ever tryed to play unreal tournament 2003 on this?
[01:13] <eggzeck> gilianima: dpkg --list | egrep gnome.*
[01:13] <Flannel> arrick: whats the question?
[01:13] <arrick> I need DNS Ip addresses Flannel
[01:13] <eggzeck> gilianima: that is an example, make your own patterns given to 'egrep'
[01:13] <Flannel> arrick: you need a static IP address? or a DNS?
[01:13] <arrick> yeah
[01:14] <eggzeck> Flannel: oh I thought he meant those already installed :p
[01:14] <arrick> a DNS
[01:14] <Flannel> arrick: check out dyndns.org
[01:14] <arrick> Flannel, I want to just add additional DNS numbers to my server
[01:14] <Flannel> arrick: hmm?  Additional domains you mean?
[01:14] <cge> Flannel: I think he means more dns servers
[01:15] <cge> Flannel: ie, adding more to resolv.conf
[01:15] <arrick> flannel DNS server ip addys
[01:15] <arrick> yeah
[01:15] <arrick> thast it
[01:15] <fourat> !vlc
[01:15] <ubotu> I heard vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[01:15] <eliyahu> anyone with security access might want to see this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/43906
[01:16] <arrick> anyone here with a router can give me their DNS numbers from the Connection Summary
[01:16] <arrick> please
[01:16] <ShellMaza> 1 sec
[01:16] <eliyahu> I would like to know if someone can reproduce that
[01:16] <cge> arrick: Usually those are only for the users of the ISP running them.
[01:17] <arrick> cge, nah their unuversal bouncers
[01:17] <ShellMaza> DNS 1
[01:17] <ShellMaza> 24.245.15.53
[01:17] <ShellMaza> DNS 2
[01:17] <ShellMaza>  24.247.24.53
[01:17] <ShellMaza>  DNS 3
[01:17] <ShellMaza> 202.67.230.196
[01:17] <arrick> thanks
[01:17] <ShellMaza> their
[01:17] <cge> eliyahu: I don't know that anyone here has security access.
[01:18] <eliyahu> oh well, then I guess I'll have to wait untill they check it...
[01:18] <Jazy84> can anyone point me in the right direction to get java installed?
[01:18] <Flannel> !java
[01:18] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:18] <fourat> can i use my debian's /etc/apt/sources.lidt file in ubuntu ?
[01:18] <Jazy84> thanks
[01:18] <eliyahu> it's a pretty severe issue thouogh if it also works on other stations
[01:19] <Flannel> fourat: technically, yes.  Is it a good idea to? no.
[01:19] <_jason> fourat: not safely
[01:19] <cge> eliyahu: Are you on dapper or breezy?
[01:19] <eliyahu> dapper
[01:19] <cge> fourat: no!
[01:19] <eliyahu> latest packages
[01:19] <cge> fourat: I just did it and it worked out very badly.
[01:20] <fourat> ok so what should i do if i only get debian repositories ? will i get restricted to repositoriums given with ubuntu install cd ?
[01:20] <ph8> I'm trying to figure out if i can mute/unmute my sound card from the command line - can anyone help?
[01:20] <ph8> in gnome
[01:20] <cge> eliyahu: You could pm or email me the problem and I could try to reproduce it - I've just installed from the dapper beta cd, and could dist-upgrade.
[01:20] <crimsun> ph8: amixer or alsamixer
[01:21] <eggzeck> fourat: what are you talking about?
[01:21] <Flannel> eliyahu: fourat if you only have debian repositories... you'll have debian, not ubuntu.
[01:21] <ph8> I have a button on the front of my laptop that works nicely to do it, but i don't know how to check the command line command that runs
[01:21] <ph8> thanks crimsun
[01:21] <fourat> ok, am an old debian users and just migrated to ubuntu
[01:21] <bon_> how do i get rid of this error at ktorrent start up http://pastebin.com/708496
[01:21] <apokryphos> fourat: welcome :)
[01:21] <fourat> where can i find ubuntu repositories ? backports and others
[01:21] <Flannel> fourat: use ubuntu repositories, DONT add debains.  The two are NOT binary compatable.
[01:21] <andersbr> How do I find out if MySQL 5.0 is in Dapper?
[01:22] <Flannel> !easysource
[01:22] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:22] <fourat> apokryphos, thx :)
[01:22] <andersbr> How do I find out if MySQL 5.0 is in Dapper? (possible dupe question.  Network problems)
[01:22] <apokryphos> andersbr: /msg ubotu <packagename> dapper
[01:22] <Flannel> andersbr: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:22] <apokryphos> andersbr: /msg ubotu find <packagename> dapper
[01:22] <eliyahu> cge: I am not an expert in xchat how do I send privatly...
[01:22] <apokryphos> or p.u.c, yeah
[01:22] <Jazy84> ./msg nick
[01:22] <eliyahu> (i should say IRC and not xchat)
[01:22] <Jazy84> without the '.'
[01:22] <cge> fourat: Oh, I see. Are you asking about third party repositories for Debian? If so, then yes, they do work with ubuntu.
[01:22] <eliyahu> ok
[01:22] <cge> fourat: usually
[01:23] <fourat> for example, i asked above about where to get the reposito for vlc, php5.1, apache2, firefox 1.5 and so ..
[01:23] <apokryphos> fourat: /msg ubotu repositories
[01:23] <apokryphos> fourat: all those are available from the standard main, universe, and multiverse.
[01:23] <apokryphos> dear ubotu provides the instructions =)
[01:23] <SlugO> can't this xhat-gnome even use the system tray..? :P
[01:23] <fourat> universe / multiverse ?
[01:23] <cge> eliyahu: with /msg nick
[01:23] <deep> Hello there.
[01:23] <deep> :)
[01:24] <apokryphos> actually, ff 1.5 isn't there, just query ubotu regarding that though
[01:24] <apokryphos> fourat: /msg ubotu repositories   :)
[01:24] <bon_> how do i get rid of this error at ktorrent start up http://pastebin.com/708496
[01:24] <eggzeck> !ff1.5
[01:24] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:24] <cge> fourat: universe ~ main, multiverse ~ non-free and contrib
[01:24] <deep> I just want to tell you all that i luuuuuuub ubuntu <3
[01:24] <deep> luuuuuuuuv***
[01:24] <Flannel> fourat: usually for new stuff you just have to wait, or compile it yourself.
[01:25] <cge> fourat: ubotu won't help you much if you are a old debian user.
[01:25] <eggzeck> deep: ty, I made it myself
[01:25] <deep> Haha ^^
[01:25] <eggzeck> :P
[01:25] <fourat> cge, hh why
[01:25] <apokryphos> cge: sure he will 8)
[01:25] <deep> eggzeck: Delive you. :)
[01:25] <deep> Belive you***
[01:25] <deep> Cant spell today.
[01:25] <apokryphos> fourat: the wiki pages and the factoids on the bot are often very good
[01:25] <eggzeck> deep: don't, because I was kidding :)
[01:25] <fourat> !firefox1.5
[01:25] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:25] <apokryphos> if you already have some GNU/Linux experience you'll get on fine
[01:25] <cge> fourat: because it won't relate to things you already know, like unstable and testing, etc. It can still be helpful, though.
[01:25] <deep> eggzeck: Oooh, didnt realize that... :O
[01:26] <fourat> !vlc
[01:26] <ubotu> hmm... vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[01:27] <cge> eliyahu: or you could email the bug to me at cge at theory dot caltech dot edu if msg doesn't work.
[01:27] <deep> Best MSN client? Besides amsn. ^^
[01:27] <apokryphos> kopete, woo
[01:27] <deep> But kopete is so uglu ^^
[01:27] <fattyMcfatterson> gaim hurrr...
[01:28] <Duelus> hey, can someone help me with apache?
[01:28] <Duelus> on ubuntu
[01:28] <deep> Gaim 2 is kinda cool ^^
[01:28] <apokryphos> deep: it really isn't if you change a couple of options
[01:28] <OneTruth> t
[01:28] <apokryphos> (though really I still don't think it's ugly by default)
[01:28] <Flannel> CenterICQ is the bestestest MSN client!
[01:28] <deep> apokryphos: Have to check that later on then ^^
[01:28] <deep> CenterICQ? Consolebased, right?
[01:28] <cge> deep: yes, centericq is good.
[01:29] <arrick> Duelus, just asp
[01:29] <arrick> ask even
[01:29] <deep> cge: Tried that, but i could get my varchar right. :P
[01:29] <eliyahu> cge: I tried sending you a few messages you did not see them?
[01:29] <deep> Swedish ^^
[01:29] <Duelus> Heres my problem I install apache2 and edited /etc/apache2/ports.conf and changed it to listen on port 1337, I forwarded that port in my router. I can connect internally on my LAN but not over the web. I have restarted apache but idk Im confused now
[01:29] <cge> eliyahu: no
[01:29] <arrick> someone can help you , you just need to ask you question with all the details involces
[01:29] <apokryphos> deep: http://giannaros.org/kopete.jpg
[01:29] <Duelus> arrick ^
[01:30] <arrick> did you try accessing by the external IP address
[01:30] <Duelus> yes
[01:30] <cge> eliyahu: It is probably better to email me at the email I just gave. That way you also know who you are sending it to.
[01:30] <arrick> whats the address?
[01:30] <Duelus> oh, btw the installation is a server installalation
[01:30] <apokryphos> heh, windeco didn't get in
[01:30] <Duelus> arrick 67.166.168.17
[01:30] <deep> apokryphos: Oh yeah! :D
[01:30] <arrick> if you dont edit the /etc/hosts file on the client werver you wont be able to access it
[01:30] <deep> apokryphos: Have to check that out now ^^
[01:31] <eliyahu> jup
[01:31] <eliyahu> 1 sec
[01:31] <Duelus> arrick do you have a guide for editing /etc/host or is it pretty self explanitory
[01:31] <apokryphos> deep: kopete can become very minimalistic quite easily, while still having so many options :)
[01:31] <deep> hum, im kinda new at this IRC-thingi, how can i change status to away / busy / back ?
[01:31] <arrick> pretty self explanitory
[01:32] <cge> Duelus: are you running it on your home connection with comcast?
[01:32] <apokryphos> deep: for example with my amarok now I have kopete set to automatically change my status message to the song I'm playing, and to change my photo to the album cover of the song that's playing, too =)
[01:32] <arrick> Duelus, is this a web server?
[01:32] <Austin_powers> irc LOL
[01:32] <Duelus> yes
[01:32] <meheren> I am borrwogin a dvd from a freind and for some reason it won't play
[01:32] <apokryphos> *status message
[01:32] <arrick> ok, post your apache2.conf to !pastebint
[01:32] <arrick> !pastebin
[01:32] <Duelus> everything works fine over the lan
[01:32] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:32] <cge> Duelus: it's open
[01:32] <arrick> not from here its now
[01:32] <cge> Duelus: let me try it
[01:32] <arrick> not
[01:32] <meheren> I put it in and downloaded all the files to my hd because he wnated movie back but i can't seem to play it
[01:32] <deep> apokryphos: MSN messenger - like ^^
[01:33] <meheren> i have xine mplayer and totem
[01:33] <apokryphos> deep: it doesn't change your photo though, does it? :)
[01:33] <deep> apokryphos: Yes, i have just switched to linux. ^^
[01:33] <deep> Photo? :O
[01:33] <meheren> and will downlaod a new one if have to does any6one no how i can play them?
[01:33] <deep> omg, didit read that ^^
[01:33] <pip`> hey guys how do i skip the request for IP address during the startup of edubuntu ??
[01:33] <cge> arrick: hmm.. open for me from caltech.
[01:33] <Austin_powers> how long doe's it take to start up ubuntu linux on a VooDoo 500MHz Emachine
[01:33] <Austin_powers> ?
[01:33] <apokryphos> deep: yup, kde applications are configurable easily like that :P
[01:33] <Duelus> here is /etc/apache2/apache2.conf http://pastebin.com/708526
[01:33] <cge> Duelus: It works fine for me.
[01:33] <Duelus> it does?
[01:33] <_jason> the man page for wget (specifically options -A and -R) refers to ``@pxref{Types of Files}''  What does that mean?  Where can I find that?
[01:33] <deep> apokryphos: Okay, you convinced me. Im trying that out NOW! ^^
[01:34] <Duelus> on port 1337?
[01:34] <Duelus> cge
[01:34] <pip`> i dont even plan to use the internet with edubuntu i dont think
[01:34] <arrick> oh, I forgot te port
[01:34] <Duelus> 67.166.168.17:1337
[01:34] <meheren> how can i play a dvd that is saved on my hd not on a dvd?
[01:34] <Flannel> wow.  thats a leet port!
[01:34] <Austin_powers> i just got ubuntu
[01:34] <cge> Duelus: yes, it works
[01:34] <Duelus> 67.166.168.17:1337
[01:34] <Duelus> you sure?
[01:34] <cge> Duelus: oh
[01:34] <arrick> Duelus, yeah it opens if I put the port in
[01:34] <Duelus> I can't get it on this machine
[01:34] <Duelus> damn ok
[01:34] <Duelus> then I guess everythigns fine
[01:34] <Duelus> hmm
[01:35] <cge> Duelus: wait
[01:35] <cge> Duelus: what machine can't reach it?
[01:35] <arrick> its because of your host file, I just found that out the other day, when I configged mine
[01:35] <Duelus> cge another machien on this lan
[01:35] <arrick> internal in network cant reach it cge
[01:35] <meheren> how can i play a movie when it's in dvd format saved on my hd?
[01:35] <Duelus> well I'm glad it works externally I was assuming it didn't
[01:35] <arrick> burn it to a disc
[01:35] <JonBoon> Austin_powers, i put ubuntu on a very very old emachine today and it only took an hour or so
[01:35] <cge> Duelus: are you also using the server as the router?
[01:35] <arrick> Duelus, nope it works
[01:35] <Duelus> cge no
[01:35] <Austin_powers> heh
[01:36] <meheren> arrick, i don't have dvd burner...
[01:36] <eliyahu> cge: you should get the mail any minute now...
[01:36] <Duelus> arrick, cge well any suggestions to get it working internally? beause I need to access it from the LAN its on and the internet
[01:36] <cge> eliyahu: I have it, yes.
[01:36] <eliyahu> (or any second should be more accurate however often is not)
[01:37] <eliyahu> ok
[01:37] <Austin_powers> .....
[01:37] <arrick> are you in windows or ubuntu on the remote box Duelus
[01:37] <arrick> ?
[01:37] <Duelus> arrick windows
[01:37] <cge> eliyahu: not happening on the beta. I will dist-upgrade and try again.
[01:37] <Duelus> using putty to ssh into the ubuntu box
[01:37] <eliyahu> ok
[01:37] <Austin_powers> this place is packed
[01:38] <cge> Duelus: 1337 sounds like a port that might be blocked outgoing by a software firewall by default, since it would be an obvious port for malicious activities.
[01:38] <meheren> arrg you guys are no help
[01:38] <Duelus> cge I also tried on 8080
[01:38] <Duelus> but still coudln't access internally
[01:38] <cge> Duelus: oh, that should work.
[01:38] <eliyahu> cge: you'll prob need to get a lot of new packages,,,, how long will it take you?
[01:38] <Austin_powers> port 6667 XD
[01:38] <Duelus> cge and there is no software firewall on this windows box
[01:38] <arrick> hey Duelus do a search for hosts and you'll ifnd the file, then let me knw when your there
[01:39] <JonBoon> i still cant get video to play Austin_powers  but im just too lazy to figure it out at this point
[01:39] <Austin_powers> .......
[01:39] <cge> eliyahu: not sure. I have a very fast connection, but the ubuntu servers are the limiting factor.
[01:39] <Duelus> arrick what exactly do you mean?
[01:39] <arrick> click on start>search> files and folders> put hosts in and open that file
[01:39] <eliyahu> cge: just for me it's 02:45 and I need to be up at 07:00-08:00
[01:40] <cge> eliyahu: I see.
[01:40] <Austin_powers> if it takes that long then i need a new cpu
[01:40] <Duelus> arrick do you just want my DNS servers?
[01:40] <JonBoon> im sure it'll load fine, ubuntu runs good on slower pc's
[01:40] <Austin_powers> heh
[01:40] <arrick> you gotta edit that in order to point to your domains with names in you remote box
[01:40] <Austin_powers> emonster
[01:40] <cge> eliyahu: You could ask if anyone else in here can test it. It will probably take at least a half an hour for me.
[01:41] <ShellMaza> any try to run any 3d games yet?
[01:41] <arrick> Duelus, join #arrick for a minute
[01:41] <Duelus> arrack, hosts in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc?
[01:41] <Austin_powers> i only used it for pc games and internet
[01:41] <JonBoon> hey, i just noticed mines an emonster too
[01:41] <Duelus> ok
[01:41] <Austin_powers> voodoo?
[01:41] <ShellMaza> ?
[01:41] <JonBoon> its a piece of crap pc, i cant tell the stickers are worn out on the front
[01:41] <JonBoon> it was given to me a while back
[01:41] <Austin_powers> had it since 1998
[01:42] <cge> eliyahu: Unfortunately I have a local debian mirror, but not a local ubuntu mirror... I do miss the 1.5MB/s in apt-get.
[01:42] <JonBoon> this is pentium 3 ha
[01:42] <Austin_powers> dotto
[01:42] <ShellMaza> mines a new 3ghz p4ht with gig ram 6600 gforce
[01:42] <Austin_powers> ditto*
[01:42] <JonBoon> i put a 10gb hd from 1996 in it
[01:42] <Austin_powers> .....
[01:42] <ShellMaza> i got sick of M$
[01:42] <Austin_powers> i'm using a normal 300MHz right now
[01:42] <cge> Is there a way to dist-upgrade all the particular deps of a metapackage but not dist-upgrade everything?
[01:42] <Austin_powers> windows
[01:43] <eliyahu> cge: apt-cacher's should work for both,... but they will only speed things up if the packages were already downloaded...
[01:43] <Austin_powers> dang it's still loading
[01:43] <JonBoon> like i said it will take about an hour
[01:43] <cge> eliyahu: Yeah, I have toughguy.caltech.edu for debian, so it isn't actually mine.
[01:43] <majd> Hi, is there a way to mae my volume up/down on the keyboard control the PCM instead of the master?
[01:43] <ShellMaza> ah hour for what?
[01:43] <JonBoon> install
[01:43] <majd> cause the master has no effect on volume
[01:44] <majd> dont know why
[01:44] <ShellMaza> mine installed in 35 mnutes
[01:44] <JonBoon> it took about an hour on this old old old emachine
[01:44] <ShellMaza> oh
[01:44] <ShellMaza> i built a beast
[01:44] <ShellMaza> :)
[01:44] <Austin_powers> anno 1602
[01:44] <asdx> what package do i have to install for have findsmb
[01:44] <JonBoon> it took about 35 on my laptop
[01:44] <ShellMaza> asdx search for smb
[01:44] <Austin_powers> not installing
[01:45] <Austin_powers> loading up
[01:45] <JonBoon> booting?
[01:45] <Austin_powers> yes
[01:45] <ShellMaza> what
[01:45] <JonBoon> well then somethings wrong
[01:45] <ShellMaza> yea...
[01:45] <ShellMaza> any errors?
[01:45] <Austin_powers> it's been about 15 minutes now
[01:45] <JonBoon> once mine had an error and i skipped passed it and then it wouldnt boot, but i just reinstalled and it worked fine
[01:46] <Austin_powers> k
[01:46] <Austin_powers> says
[01:46] <Austin_powers> GUMP loading
[01:46] <Austin_powers> version1.5
[01:46] <cge> eliyahu: it looks like it will actually take an hour or so.
[01:46] <cge> eliyahu: sorry
[01:47] <cge> Is there a program like apt-spy in main, so I don't have to reconfigure it to work with ubuntu?
[01:47] <eliyahu> cge: is okay, I just got an e-mail from a security team guy so I'm gonna chck something
[01:47] <Austin_powers> PEER!!!!!!!
[01:47] <cge> eliyahu: ok
[01:47] <cge> eliyahu: great
[01:48] <fourat> how can i get mysql5 and postgresql 8.1 with apt ?
[01:48] <cge> fourat: are you running dapper?
[01:48] <fourat> !dapper
[01:48] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[01:48] <fourat> wops
[01:48] <fourat> what's that
[01:49] <fourat> should i send my ubuntu to trash ?
[01:49] <Austin_powers> lol
[01:49] <cge> fourat: ?
[01:49] <fourat> :)
[01:49] <drr105> hi, ive got a problem upgrading libgl1-mesa
[01:49] <JonBoon> you should do what your inner child desires
[01:49] <Austin_powers> im checking now
[01:50] <Austin_powers> ......
[01:50] <Austin_powers> nope
[01:50] <cge> fourat: It is in breezy-backports as postgresql-8.1.
[01:50] <Austin_powers> Wait!
[01:50] <medialdesign> How to update firefox to the latest release?  I got the TGZ, but how to update it ?
[01:50] <Austin_powers> what can i use in the command console
[01:50] <Austin_powers> codes
[01:51] <jiping> hi
[01:52] <cge> fourat: mysql5 is only in dapper
[01:53] <eliyahu> cge: it seems to be a config error by me in PAM
[01:54] <cge> eliyahu: ah
[01:54] <cge> eliyahu: is it the default setting?
[01:54] <Austin_powers> XD
[01:55] <cge> Err, why is us.archive.ubuntu.com in the uk?
[01:55] <Austin_powers> 3 in a row
[01:55] <Austin_powers> PEER!!!!!
[01:55] <eliyahu> nope, because I added LDAP to PAM, I was supposed to also add deny to he end of the chain....  what is curious/interesting is why ssh/su/gdm etc. are not also hit by the lack of that setting
[01:57] <Austin_powers> i ned instructions
[01:57] <Austin_powers> need*
[01:58] <cge> Austin_powers: for what?
[01:58] <_jason> the man page for wget (specifically options -A and -R) refers to ``@pxref{Types of Files}''  What does that mean?  Where can I find that?
[01:58] <kbrooks> !ubotu
[01:58] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[01:58] <whiter> how can i find out what program is controlling a window
[01:58] <whiter> like i want to know what program it is
[01:58] <Austin_powers> i have three options
[01:58] <whiter> the actual executable name...
[01:58] <whiter> i think the command is xproc or xgrep or something, i forget
[01:59] <Austin_powers> ubuntu kernal or recovery modes
[01:59] <Austin_powers> other one is memtest
[02:00] <drr105> hi, ive got a problem upgrading libgl1-mesa- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13733
[02:00] <_jason> whiter: xprop maybe?
[02:00] <whiter> there we go
[02:00] <whiter> thank you jason
[02:01] <Austin_powers> i have no net on my Ubuntu cpu
[02:02] <arrick> anyone, where is the file for networking, /etc/network/interfaces
[02:02] <arrick> ?
[02:02] <arrick> or what am i missing
[02:03] <TLE> I have installed cmus by compiling it from source, (before I knew about checkinstall) and now I wan't to uninstall. I did `locate cmus` and found that there was was cmus files in the follwoing directories /usr/local/bin; /usr/local/lib/cmus; /usr/local/share/doc/cmus; /usr/local/share/cmus and a man page. So to uninstall, do I just delete these or are there anything else ?
[02:03] <cge> TLE: make uninstall doesn't work?
[02:03] <eliyahu> cge: saw my answer?
[02:04] <cge> eliyahu: yes
[02:04] <cge> eliyahu: err, which answer?
[02:04] <cge> eliyahu: oh yes, I see it now
[02:04] <cge> eliyahu: There probably should be a warning when it is configured in that way.
[02:04] <tmccrary> hi, out of the blue my x server has started crashing anytime I run an OpenGL program. It's started doing this ever since the last Xorg upgrade (I think the one involving the remote Xorg exploit).
[02:05] <tmccrary> I'm running AMD64, anyone heard of this?
[02:05] <cge> tmccrary: Are you running dapper?
[02:05] <tmccrary> n
[02:05] <tmccrary> no
[02:05] <tmccrary> Breezy 5.10
[02:05] <gnu2it2> what is good video conference package? my dad wants me to see if we can get setup to talk/see family  spread to the 4 corners
[02:05] <gnu2it2> see them grandbabies
[02:05] <cge> gnu2it2: ekiga
[02:06] <cge> gnu2it2: or can it not do more than two people?
[02:06] <TLE> cge: No unfortunately not, the authors think that easy uninstall is the job for a tool like checkinstall
[02:06] <gnu2it2> i think it needs an account with them to make it work
[02:07] <FX> hullo
[02:07] <FX> I've got kind of involved question.....
[02:08] <FX> How can I find out if my tv card is supported or what command can I run to find out what kind of tv card I have
[02:08] <FX> It came with the pc when I bought it.
[02:08] <seraphim> lspci
[02:08] <FX> Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX2341                           6) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[02:08] <ShellMaza> is a nexus-s dvb card supported?
[02:08] <FX> That would be it right?
[02:09] <docko> hi, does anyone of you use far manager under wine?
[02:09] <seraphim> i think so
[02:09] <seraphim> @ FX
[02:09] <the_mr_bong_show> hey _jason
[02:09] <FX> ok, now does that show it is supported?
[02:09] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: hi
[02:09] <FX> seraphim, ?
[02:09] <ShellMaza> sure
[02:09] <the_mr_bong_show> remeber me _jason
[02:09] <ShellMaza> it loaded a driver
[02:10] <lufis> Do I need a firewall running Ubuntu?
[02:10] <FX> ok, now what is the easiest tv tuner app to use in linux?
[02:10] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: yep
[02:10] <apokryphos> lufis: /msg ubotu firewall
[02:10] <lufis> ok
[02:11] <lufis> Apokryphos, so firewall is already installed?
[02:11] <seraphim> but normally you don't need it lufis
[02:11] <arrick> whats the adduser command and passwd command to change another users password?
[02:11] <lufis> ah, why is that?
[02:11] <_jason> arrick: passwd username
[02:11] <arrick> ok
[02:11] <ShellMaza> useradd newusername
[02:11] <Briguy> How canI reset the sound server in Ubuntu?
[02:12] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i join yahoo chat _jason
[02:12] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: isn't that java based?
[02:12] <Briguy> they removed it
[02:12] <the_mr_bong_show> it might be
[02:12] <tmccrary> Briguy: pray, but even that is futile because it probably won't work right
[02:12] <lufis> So kernel already has firewall included, right? So there's no need for another program?
[02:13] <Briguy> tmccrary: 1) praying is never futile 2) I just need to kill the sound server and start it up again...
[02:13] <TLE> cge: actually I might have misunderstood that(from reading a mailing list), but anyway it wasn't included before version 2.0.1 and I have version 2.0.0
[02:13] <tmccrary> You still need userspace apps to control the firewall
[02:13] <lufis> Tmccray, right, but it's on automatically?
[02:13] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: http://chat.yahoo.com/ says it no longer is.  Have you tried using gaim?
[02:13] <eliyahu> cge: if you'd put the warning it should be some type of mail the system sends to root...
[02:13] <JonBoon> i <3 gaim
[02:13] <the_mr_bong_show> it asks for the room name and i dont remember the room name
[02:13] <eliyahu> cge: anyhow gnite, nice meeting you guys
[02:13] <tmccrary> lufis: It's only on if you enable it by using the userspace iptables command
[02:13] <_darksoul> how do i install .bin files in linux, im trying to install the linux version of torque game engine/demo
[02:13] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: I can't really help you there :P
[02:14] <lufis> Tmccray, ah.
[02:14] <cge> eliyahu: Goodnight, and thanks for finding such an important bug.
[02:14] <docko> does anyone of you use far manager under wine?
[02:14] <cge> eliyahu: they should certainly look into sending a warning.
[02:14] <Briguy> fine how can one kill all the events that are using the sound server atm?
[02:14] <seraphim> lufis: there is no need for a firewall because you don't have open ports unless you installed some server-services
[02:14] <fourat> how to get a network monitor on my taskbar ?
[02:14] <lufis> Seraphim, ahh, thank you for clarifying that. You have to excuse my paranoia, I'm an ex-Windows user ;)
[02:14] <rightcoast> cge, what bug? I just got in.
[02:14] <fourat> (gnome)
[02:14] <seraphim> and even then they should be secure enough by themselves
[02:15] <tmccrary> Briguy: You could use lsof to determine what files are using the sound server
[02:15] <eliyahu> cge: I feel dumb it's me who made the error in configuring... oh well next time better... :)
[02:15] <Briguy> tmccrary thank you
[02:15] <cge> rightcoast: one moment
[02:15] <rightcoast> np
[02:15] <the_mr_bong_show> _jason can i play games like grandtheft auto vice city on ubuntu
[02:15] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: maybe with cedega
[02:15] <ShellMaza> i tryed to install ut2003
[02:15] <ShellMaza> the linux installer dont work on cd3
[02:16] <the_mr_bong_show> cedega?
[02:16] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: transgaming.com
[02:16] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[02:16] <cge> rightcoast: bug 43906, but you need security access to see it.
[02:16] <fourat> anyone know how to get the network monitor on the taskbar ?
[02:16] <fourat> in gnome
[02:16] <lufis> Fourat, just click "Add to panel..." on the context menu
[02:16] <Briguy> couldn't I just do killall esd
[02:16] <Briguy> ?
[02:16] <rightcoast> Ok, thanks bro
[02:16] <cge> fourat: which one? Do you mean network-manager?
[02:17] <fourat> i want to monitor my interfaces
[02:17] <Cody`> Can anyone tell me how to change this nasty ubuntulooks color
[02:17] <tmccrary> hopefully upgrading to 2.6.12-10 will stop Xorg from crashing when I run OpenGL apps. Not that I have any real hope this will fix this bitch
[02:17] <fourat> to see if their active or not ..
[02:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell Cody` about themes
[02:17] <Cody`> I want regular clearlooks back, but it will not go back to blue
[02:17] <fourat> i have it on my debian sarge as an applet on kde
[02:18] <ShellMaza> is opengl installed by default?
[02:18] <the_mr_bong_show> _jason can i get cedega for free
[02:18] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: no
[02:18] <cge> fourat: then use add applet on the panel, and I think there is an applet like that.
[02:18] <lufis> How do I disable a service from starting up? Specifically, the bluetooth service?
[02:18] <fourat> no didnt get it
[02:18] <fourat> do u have it on ur desktop ?
[02:19] <the_mr_bong_show> is linx better than windows
[02:19] <ShellMaza> is OpenGL installed by default?
[02:19] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: depends on the person
[02:19] <seraphim> lufis: you could go to synaptic and remove the bluetooth-packages
[02:20] <lufis> Seraphim, alright, thanks
[02:20] <tmccrary> the_mr_bong_show: Depends on what you're doing. Linux has a much better feature set as far as administration and software installation. Windows has a much better user experience (for the first few weeks at least) and has far better hardware support.
[02:20] <cge> fourat: It shows up as Network Monitor on my computer, but I'm running dapper.
[02:20] <BlueLaguna> is there a firewall installed in the default installation?
[02:20] <cge> tmccrary: I would dispute the better user experience for the first few weeks, at least with dapper.
[02:20] <seraphim> lufius: bluez-utils i think is the right one
[02:21] <cge> BlueLaguna: you don't need one with Linux except in special cases.
[02:21] <lufis> Seraphim, when I click "Mark for removal" it also lists "Ubuntu-desktop" as one of the removed things. Is that bad?
[02:21] <tmccrary> cge: I haven't really used Dapper yet but I'm sure it's better than the current Ubuntu
[02:21] <tmccrary> It definately looks nice :)
[02:21] <BlueLaguna> cge: I'm trying to figure a problem with BitTorrent
[02:21] <seraphim> no. ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package
[02:22] <lufis> Seraphim: ah, alright
[02:22] <BlueLaguna> I have a DMZ setup to this machine
[02:22] <tmccrary> Is dapper fairly stable currently?
[02:22] <roy> nope
[02:22] <cge> tmccrary: quite
[02:22] <roy> not for me it isnt
[02:22] <Austin_powers> it's finally up
[02:22] <roy> i cant even get it to install
[02:22] <roy> haha
[02:22] <cge> tmccrary: at least for some people.
[02:22] <tmccrary> I know it's coming out in a few weeks, but Breezy crashes every time I run an OpenGL app and gives no errors (Xorg crashes)
[02:22] <cge> roy: it won't install?
[02:22] <roy> nope
[02:22] <tmccrary> I really need to be able to use blender to do work
[02:22] <roy> keeps telling me kernel panic
[02:22] <roy> :|
[02:23] <Cody`> _jason: That doesn't help me though, I want the blue clearlooks window border back. Installing another window border still keeps teh thing this disgusting orange
[02:23] <the_mr_bong_show> is there a newer virsion of ubuntu i have 5.10
[02:23] <tmccrary> roy: that's the kind of problem I have now with Breezy. :(
[02:23] <_jason> Cody`: are you using dapper?
[02:23] <tmccrary> not exactly, but your display crashing is fairly major
[02:23] <roy> 5.10 is old
[02:23] <seraphim> the_mr_bong_show: 6.06, but it's still beta
[02:23] <Cody`> _jason: yes
[02:23] <tmccrary> 5.10 is current I believe :)
[02:23] <roy> breezy is 5.10 right?
[02:23] <rightcoast> yep
[02:23] <cge> roy: yes
[02:23] <roy> current stable...
[02:24] <roy> but their is dapper...
[02:24] <cge> tmccrary: you could certainly try dapper. Dapper has a newer version of xorg, if I recall.
[02:24] <roy> why would it say kernel panic ?
[02:24] <roy> what does that mean? it says it with every os i put in
[02:24] <roy> mandrake, suse, and 3 versions of ubuntu
[02:24] <tmccrary> I'm just afraid I'll upgrade and my whole system will die
[02:24] <roy> :O
[02:24] <cge> roy: because the kernel is in panic.
[02:24] <_jason> Cody`: what ornage are you talking about exactly?  I change to clearlooks and can't find anything right away
[02:24] <roy> yeah but why?
[02:24] <Cody`> if I change to clearlooks
[02:24] <roy> how do i fix that?
[02:24] <tmccrary> roy: Kernel panic is Linux's version of the bluescreen of death
[02:25] <Cody`> the title bar is still this fugly orange
[02:25] <Cody`> _jason: if I change the thing to any clearlooks theme, the title bar and controls stay orange. No change
[02:25] <cge> roy: It is a general term for when the kernel can't continue because of a huge problem.
[02:25] <roy> damn
[02:25] <roy> and how do i figure out hte huge problem?!
[02:25] <roy> LOL
[02:25] <michael> hello
[02:25] <cge> roy: the stuff that comes up right before usually tells you.
[02:25] <roy> hey michael
[02:25] <tmccrary> roy: Unfortunately, on Linux you actually don't get any kind of visual notification if you're in an X session. Your computer just freezes and reboots if you have a reboot period set
[02:25] <Nihil85> hi! i have an error with XKB... here's the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13734
[02:25] <roy> cge: it is all in hex i think
[02:25] <BlueLaguna> can I upgrade to dapper via apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:26] <seraphim> if it happens with several different kernels i would assume a hardware-problem
[02:26] <michael> does anybody know if sourceforge has an IRC server/channel?
[02:26] <_jason> Cody`: let's take this to #ubuntu+1, that's where dapper talk should be
[02:26] <roy> i have no hardware problems tho... that i know of
[02:26] <roy> =\
[02:26] <Cody`> _jason: will do
[02:26] <tate> Hello, I am trying to get a working C++ development environment going in Ubuntu 5.10
[02:26] <cge> roy: hmm... there is usually some text, but it might be pushed off the screen by the hex stuff.
[02:26] <tate> This feels a bit like wrestling, I installed eclipse and the CDT plugin
[02:26] <michael> tate:  try anjuta
[02:27] <cge> tate: just use vim or emacs.
[02:27] <roy> ok im booting to find out
[02:27] <tate> Yeah, I am trying to get that
[02:27] <tate> Anjuta works great on my gentoo installation
[02:27] <tate> But installing it on ubuntu is tells me I need to install: XML::Parser perl module
[02:27] <tmccrary> I use eclipse CDT, the newer version work great
[02:27] <Nihil85> hi! i have an error with XKB... here's the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13734
[02:27] <tate> I have the latest CDT
[02:27] <tmccrary> Make sure you aren't using GCJ though, GCJ can run Eclipse but it REALLY REALLY SUCKS at it
[02:27] <tate> it doesn't seem to parse properly
[02:28] <tate> some HelloWorld cpp's won't even compile with CDT
[02:28] <michael> tate:  apt-get install libxml-parser-perl
[02:28] <tate> at least on my installation
[02:28] <_jason> tate: then you need libxml-parser-perl
[02:28] <the_mr_bong_show> im updating ubuntu WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[02:28] <tmccrary> is g++ installed?
[02:28] <cge> the_mr_bong_show: to dapper?
[02:28] <the_mr_bong_show> whats dapper?
[02:28] <cge> the_mr_bong_show: never mind
[02:28] <gnat_x> so i am trying to install xubuntu dapper beta, but the intsall keeps failing when the installer tries to install the kernel.
[02:29] <gnat_x> what could be causing that.
[02:29] <OetmetG> Hey... sometimes, randomly, my Gnome session doesn't play sounds.. neither mp3... it shows as if were playing (rhytmbox or mpg123) but no sound is playing
[02:29] <OetmetG> any idea?
[02:29] <gnat_x> the error messages aren't that helpful.
[02:29] <OetmetG> I'm using an alsa souind card
[02:29] <OetmetG> intel
[02:29] <michael> so nobody know if sf.net has an irc channel?
[02:29] <gnat_x> OetmetG, is esd launching too.
[02:29] <tmccrary> OetmetG: Sorry to say, these issues are a fact of life, you will have them for the forseeable future
[02:30] <OetmetG> gnat_x: yes, esd is running
[02:30] <lufis> When is the next release gonna be out?
[02:30] <OetmetG> tmccrary: are you serious?
[02:30] <tmccrary> Early June
[02:30] <gnat_x> OetmetG: i've had that problem with debian. (actually its whatever the gnome sound thing is)
[02:30] <gnat_x> OetmetG: that conflicts with alsa.
[02:31] <tate> apt-get install libxml-parser-perl doesn't seem to give me anything
[02:31] <gnat_x> OetmetG: what happens if you run alasacong (as root from the cli)
[02:31] <the_mr_bong_show> what kind of stuff can i do on ubuntu
[02:31] <tmccrary> OetmetG: Sadly yes, I have never had a Linux machine that didn't have massive sound problems everywhere. Linux is a great OS, but audio support is majorly flawed
[02:31] <OetmetG> gnat_x: alasacong?
[02:31] <brrrt> hello
[02:32] <gnat_x> OetmetG: alsaconf or alsaconfig don't rememeber which, i'm not in front of my home computer now.
[02:32] <gnat_x> any takers on why the installer would fail when trying to install the kernel.
[02:33] <brrrt> i need "screensaver-x11.h" where can i find it?
[02:33] <OetmetG> i dont have that file actually
[02:33] <NoUse> gnat_x the cd could be bad
[02:33] <_jason> !find screensaver-x11.h
[02:33] <the_mr_bong_show> how many commands are there for ubuntu
[02:33] <arrick> hey deleting a user id userdel right?
[02:33] <gnat_x> NoUse: *nod* that's what i was thinking. though i just burned it today. :(
[02:33] <tmccrary> If you're using ShipIt discs, you have to check them out, I've gotten a couple of bad ones
[02:33] <arrick> or eluser
[02:33] <arrick> deluser
[02:33] <NoUse> gnat_x how did you download it?
[02:33] <Nihil85> hi! i have an error with XKB... here's the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13734
[02:33] <arrick> _jason, ^^
[02:33] <brrrt> !find screensaver-x11.h
[02:33] <brrrt> ?
[02:34] <gnat_x> NoUse: wget
[02:34] <_jason> arrick: deluser is nicer
[02:34] <arrick> ok
[02:34] <zcat[1] > the_mr_bong_show: open a terminal and press <tab> twice..
[02:34] <NoUse> gnat_x did you check the md5sums?
[02:34] <tate> Oh, and the synaptic install of Kdevelop only works in ubuntu if you run it as root
[02:34] <gnat_x> NoUse: nope. should have though. but i did run a check on the cd from within the installer.
[02:34] <brrrt> i mean how can i find out if any package contains "screensaver-x11.h" ?
[02:35] <_jason> brrrt: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file search, but I am not finding any
[02:35] <NoUse> gnat_x then it should be ok, is the installer still up on your screen?
[02:35] <michael> ok bye
[02:35] <gnat_x> NoUse: yeah.
[02:35] <gnat_x> NoUse: right where is failed
[02:35] <the_mr_bong_show> is that all zcat[1] 
[02:36] <NoUse> gnat_x one of the virtual terminals shows debugging output try Ctrl+Alt+F1-4
[02:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'screensaver-x11.h' returned no results.
[02:36] <Pr0hibited> hey, for some reason when I try to go to some things on ubuntu, like "services", it will act like it's loading, but it won't.. I REALLY need to get into services atm. Help?
[02:36] <zcat[1] > no.. it's most.
[02:36] <tokeman> hey err I'm having sound issues still can someone send me a link to try and fix that?, I lost it
[02:36] <gnat_x> NoUse: f4
[02:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'screensaver-x11.h' returned no results.
[02:36] <gnat_x> NoUse: "dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[02:36] <brrrt> oh i c
[02:37] <zcat[1] > there are all the system binaries and screensaver apps that probably aren't in your path..
[02:37] <brrrt> thats bad :(...
[02:37] <brrrt> i nedd it for compiling
[02:37] <_jason> brrrt: what are you trying to compile?
[02:37] <brrrt> mythtv
[02:37] <NoUse> gnat_x you might try restarting the install, if it fails again, check the md5 and reburn possilby at a lower speed
[02:37] <_jason> brrrt: mythv is in the repositories, no need to compile
[02:38] <_jason> !info mythtv
[02:38] <ubotu> mythtv: (A personal video recorder application (client and server)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.18.1-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[02:38] <_jason> brrrt: just enable multiverse
[02:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell brrrt about multiverse
[02:38] <gnat_x> NoUse: do you know off the top of your head where this installs to? might have made a partition too small (old machine small disk)
[02:38] <brrrt> i need to compile it for softcam to get our austrian encrypted local tv statiuons
[02:38] <NoUse> gnat_x the kernel goes into /boot
[02:39] <NoUse> gnat_x how big did you make boot?
[02:39] <_jason> brrrt: apt-get source mythtv, make the modifications you need to the source, then build it again
[02:39] <_jason> brrrt: and make sure you install 'build-essential' as well as do 'apt-get build-dep mythtv'
[02:40] <brrrt> ah thx alot
[02:41] <Austin_powers> O M H
[02:41] <Austin_powers> G*
[02:42] <Austin_powers> my desktop is not showing
[02:42] <Austin_powers> PEER!!!!
[02:42] <tokeman> your desk to eh
[02:42] <Austin_powers> huh?
[02:42] <tokeman> my sound isn't sounding
[02:43] <Austin_powers> eh?
[02:44] <NoUse> Austin_powers did you change anything before this happened?
[02:44] <gnat_x> biovore: yeah, its too small. i think that's the problem
[02:44] <gnat_x> biovore: sorry, not directed at you
[02:45] <daryl> anyone here know how to use samba?
[02:45] <gnat_x> NoUse: yeah, its too small. i think that's the problem
[02:45] <bbrazil> daryl: yes
[02:45] <NoUse> !tell daryl about samba
[02:45] <OneTruth> hey im setting up an ubuntu web server for our company intranet, what partitioning scheme do you guys recommend
[02:45] <Austin_powers> no
[02:46] <daryl> bbrazil: i just installed samba, and what i wanted to use it for, was to print to a windows shared printer, from my ubuntu/linux machine.
[02:46] <tmccrary> OneTruth: Use jfs
[02:46] <tmccrary> XFS is also good
[02:46] <daryl> bbrazil: it does do that, right?
[02:46] <OneTruth> ok, and what about the actual partitions. ie. boot partition, swap partition, etc
[02:47] <NoUse> Austin_powers log out, switch to a virtual terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F2), login, then run nano ~/.xsession-errors and see if anything stands out as a possible cause
[02:47] <OneTruth> and what are the recommend sizes for the different partitions
[02:47] <Awesome-o2000> I installed the ati drivers via the instructions given to me in ubotu - the first link - but my screen goes black and my system halts when I try to start x - can anyone help?
[02:48] <tmccrary> OneTruth: You could probably use the defaults, it really doesn't matter that much.
[02:48] <bbrazil> daryl: you don't need the samba server for that. Install cups
[02:48] <OneTruth> tmccrary: the default partitions? so just tell the installer to automatically partition the machine?
[02:48] <daryl> bbrazil: apt-get install cups?
[02:48] <bbrazil> daryl: I think so
[02:49] <tmccrary> OneTruth: yeah, unless you're going to be using raid and need lvm and stuff
[02:49] <brrrt> _jason: thx, it looks like "apt-get build-dep mythtv" might do the trick :)
[02:49] <_jason> brrrt: hello
[02:49] <_jason> brrrt: np i mean heh i'm on phone
[02:49] <OneTruth> tmccrary: ok cool, so select the first option: "Erase entire disk: IDE1 master (hda)"
[02:50] <daryl> !cups
[02:50] <ubotu> [cups]  The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[02:50] <NoUse> Awesome-o2000 start the machine in recovery mode and pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:50] <Awesome-o2000> NoUse, how do I do recovery mode?
[02:50] <tmccrary> Onetruth: As long as there's no unbackedup data on hda :)
[02:51] <OneTruth> tmccrary: right :0
[02:51] <Awesome-o2000> NoUse, nvm thats in my boot options isnt it?
[02:51] <NoUse> Awesome-o2000 yes
[02:51] <Awesome-o2000> thanks brb
[02:51] <OneTruth> tmccrary:  also im installing the server base, to install gnome i can just use apt-get and run it from the terminal right?
[02:52] <OneTruth> tmccrary: im still a linux newbie and have to resort gnome occasionally
[02:52] <Austin_powers> i can't even get into gnome
[02:53] <daryl> bbrazil: i went to the linuxprinting.org and it has a list of known printers.  but it doesn't have my printer listed there.  should i even try to get cups?
[02:53] <bbrazil> daryl: windows is doingthe printing, so it shouldn't matter (I think)
[02:54] <NoUse> Austin_powers yeah just get to a console, run nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and look for lines starting with "EE"
[02:54] <tmccrary> OneTruth: Yes, you should be able to run Gnome. But you shouldn't need to use X to administrate a Linux server even if you're new. What kinds of things do you need to do from the GUI?
[02:55] <NoUse> isn't there a script pastebin from the console?
[02:55] <OneTruth> tmccrary: im thinking being able to see the file structure would be helpful, sometimes i get lost as to where certain files are kept
[02:56] <Austin_powers> you mean Memtest+?
[02:57] <NoUse> Austin_powers no, for each kernel installed, there is a "recovery mode" selection at the boot menu
[02:57] <tmccrary> OneTruth: You can use find /search/base/path -iname *filename* to search for files. pwd will tell you where you are at currently
[02:57] <Austin_powers> OH YES
[02:57] <Austin_powers> IM doing that now
[02:58] <OneTruth> tmccrary: ok, I will leave the gnome uninstalled and force myself to become more familiar
[02:58] <OneTruth> tmccrary: hehe that should work
[02:58] <Austin_powers> doing ctrl alt f2
[02:58] <callim> Im having slow xgl performance on dapper compared to when i try xgl on kororaa, anyone got a clue? :S
[02:59] <Austin_powers> now it looks like dos-mode
[02:59] <Austin_powers> PEER!!!!!
[02:59] <cge> OneTruth: you might want to try adding vga=791 or something similar to your boot parameters as well, so that you will have a usefully large console.
[02:59] <OneTruth> how easy is it to upgrade ubuntu to the latest version. ie. 5.10 to 6
[03:00] <callim> Im having slow xgl performance on dapper compared to when i try xgl on kororaa, anyone got a clue? :S
[03:00] <OneTruth> cge: what does that do?
[03:00] <tmccrary> Very easy, as long as the upgrade goes smoothly
[03:00] <cge> Austin_powers: why do you keep saying PEER!?
[03:00] <OneTruth> awesome
[03:00] <cge> OneTruth: It will make the font in the console smaller.
[03:00] <tokeman> cus he's high
[03:00] <Austin_powers> connection reset by peer
[03:00] <tmccrary> It's basically three steps, change breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list, then run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:00] <Austin_powers> it always happens  to me
[03:00] <tmccrary> well four, hehe
[03:00] <OneTruth> ahh ok
[03:01] <OneTruth> cool
[03:01] <Austin_powers> ok what do i type after C+A+f2
[03:01] <cge> OneTruth: So that instead of 80x25 you can have a decent number of lines and columns. Then you can use a program like screen to split the console in two.
[03:01] <FX> how do I find out if v4l is loaded or installed?
[03:02] <NoUse> Austin_powers log in, then run 'nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log', look for lines that start with EE
[03:02] <OneTruth> ok, so this way i can more easily read what is going on
[03:02] <Austin_powers> i will
[03:02] <OneTruth> any of you guys installed Plone on an ubuntu web serveR?
[03:02] <Austin_powers> I cannot log in
[03:02] <OneTruth> we are planning on using Plone and im thinking i can set up a dev install on the new intranet server
[03:03] <NoUse> Austin_powers do you remember your password?
[03:03] <Awesome-o2000> OK - what was it I am supposed to pastebin? thank you for letting me know what recovery mode was - it let me change my xorg.conf. My fglrx module is loading no problem - xorg just freezes when I start it . I havent done a system update yet.
[03:03] <pyrotic> Yay.. where is the smart people.. :P
[03:04] <NoUse> Awesome-o2000 /var/log/Xorg.0.log should show what went wrong
[03:04] <pyrotic> A error occured, please run Package Manager from the right-click menu or apt-get on a termina to see what is wrong...<-- that hpapened when I tried to update.. Ubuntu, Breezy badger
[03:04] <tokeman> any package I can use to detect my sound card, i'm having a hard time here I'm not one of the smart ones:(
[03:04] <Austin_powers> yes but no desktop
[03:05] <NoUse> Austin_powers but you have console access?
[03:06] <pip`> can someone help me ?? im new at linux & trying to install ubuntu on an auxiliary hard drive that has a full ntfs primary partition as well as an empty 30 gb logical partition originally set up by my windows xp cd, for some reason ubuntu wont let me just install on the empty logical partition without deleting it, why wont it just install ??
[03:06] <NoUse> pip` because its an NTFS partition I assume
[03:06] <pip`> the 30gb logical partition is fat32
[03:06] <Awesome-o2000> NoUse, its saying my car is something it isnt
[03:06] <tokeman> because the NTFS partition is unreadable in linux
[03:06] <Awesome-o2000> card
[03:06] <Austin_powers> well black screen
[03:06] <Awesome-o2000> here, I'll pastebin it
[03:07] <NoUse> pip` linux won't install to FAt32, you have to delete it
[03:07] <pip`> then why doesnt ubuntu say that ?
[03:07] <bbrazil> pip`: fat32 and linux don't work too well together
[03:07] <bbrazil> pip`: for installing on that is
[03:07] <tokeman> because
[03:07] <OneTruth> ok installation is complete, but why is everything caps in my console?
[03:07] <NoUse> pip` why would Linxu install to a Microsoft filesystem?
[03:07] <tokeman> lol
[03:08] <pip`> why doesnt ubuntu tell me the problem is it cant handle fat32, dont other distros handle fat32 ?
[03:08] <tokeman> put it this way ford parts don't work on a chevy same thing with windows/linux
[03:08] <NoUse> pip` you are misunderstanding, linux can read FAT32, it can't install to it
[03:08] <pip`> so ubuntu isnt good at giving error messages ?
[03:08] <Austin_powers> i am logging in under norm mode
[03:08] <tokeman> lol
[03:08] <NoUse> pip` if you let Ubuntu automatically partition, it would take care of all this for you
[03:09] <bbrazil> pip`: you might want to file a bug to get a better error message
[03:09] <tovella> pip`: RTFM.
[03:09] <tmccrary> Linux should be able to use Fat32 if you install the extensions that let you use Unix permissions in Fat32
[03:09] <Austin_powers> Well the Random number generator is failed
[03:09] <Austin_powers> PEER
[03:10] <tokeman> lol
[03:10] <bbrazil> tmccrary: I believe umsdos is deprecated
[03:10] <pip`> nouse, ok i was gonna do that but at the last moment i was afraid it was gonna delete BOTH partitions despite my selecting only the logical partition
[03:10] <FX> anyone in here good with tv cards?
[03:10] <Awesome-o2000>  NoUse http://pastebin.com/708652
[03:10] <Awesome-o2000> its not letting me paste it all in :((
[03:10] <pip`> i didnt see any 'auto' partitioning in ubuntu
[03:11] <tovella> FX: I've learned a little about the Hauppauge cards.  Which one do you have?
[03:11] <NoUse> pip` its there
[03:11] <FX> umm, not really sure. lol
[03:11] <bbrazil> tmccrary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMSDOS gone in 2.6.11
[03:11] <lukaswayne9> When I try to add my printer, I don't see any options in the "Printer Ports".  What should I do?  Maybe a service isn't started?
[03:11] <pip`> so can some one atleast tell me my other full partition will be safe from deletion when i delete the empty partition ?
[03:12] <tokeman> yes it will
[03:12] <pip`> ok
[03:12] <tokeman> just make sure the partion IS EMPTY
[03:12] <tokeman> that way you will not lose anything
[03:12] <pip`> whew, the wording in ubuntu was slightly vague on that issue
[03:12] <tovella> FX: I did quite a bit of research regarding my Hauppauge WinTV-PVR.  It works well, but now I wish I'd had more money to buy one of the mpeg4 cards.
[03:12] <Austin_powers> .........
[03:12] <Awesome-o2000> NoUse, I couldnt find anything I could use in that file anyhow, the last entry says dri enabled - if I pastebin my xorg,conf would that help?
[03:13] <NoUse> Awesome-o2000 I'm not experienced with ATI drivers, I had such bad experiences with them that I don't buy ATI cards anymore :-)
[03:13] <FX> torvella I sent you a pm if you don't mind
[03:13] <pip`> so auto partitioning wont delete the WHOLE hard drive as long as i highlight only a single empty partition
[03:13] <BrandoCrap> anyone running 64 bit distro?
[03:13] <tokeman> well thats cus linux in general has people that know a thing or three unlike myself thats new at linux but know enough not kill my computer and lose winblows info if I do a dual boot
[03:13] <pip`> also, will ubuntu handle my amd64 cpu ?
[03:14] <NoUse> pip` if you delete that Fat32 partition, then run the installer, there will be an open that says "Use Free space to install" or something like that
[03:14] <Awesome-o2000> NoUse, Im in the same boat right now. I thought it would be easy because the wiki's made it seem so, but apparently the driver just gives me a black screen of death.
[03:14] <tovella> Anybody know where I can find out about the difference between DapperFlight and DapperDrake?
[03:14] <pip`> nouse, ok
[03:14] <tovella> FX: send it.
[03:14] <bbrazil> pip`: yip, although i386 works a bit easier if you want to run binary stuff
[03:14] <Austin_powers> DANG IT
[03:14] <FX> you should already have a window
[03:14] <FX> tovella,
[03:14] <pip`> binary stuff ?
[03:15] <Austin_powers> i am helpless
[03:15] <pip`> u mean source file compiling ?
[03:15] <NoUse> pip` video codecs, flash
[03:15] <bbrazil> pip`: no, that'll work fine
[03:15] <pip`> well, i do want to run video codecs, but not flash
[03:15] <pip`> ok
[03:15] <daryl> !gnu
[03:15] <Austin_powers> MY Random Number Generator failed
[03:15] <ubotu> well, gnu is Not Unix. See http://www.gnu.org
[03:15] <FX> brb
[03:16] <tovella> FX: got audible notification, but no window -- using beta software.
[03:16] <tovella> FX: try again please.
[03:16] <daryl> !gnu autoconf
[03:16] <ubotu> daryl: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:16] <Austin_powers> lol
[03:16] <BrandoCrap> pip`, you trying to dual boot?
[03:16] <tokeman> !sound
[03:16] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:17] <OneTruth> how would i ssh into an ubuntu server from mac os x?
[03:18] <OneTruth> i should open terminal and type "ssh serveriphere"
[03:18] <OneTruth> right?
[03:18] <arrick> through ommand line
[03:18] <arrick> yes
[03:18] <daryl> bbrazil you still here?
[03:18] <bbrazil> daryl: yip
[03:18] <OneTruth> ok, i do that and i get "Connection Refused"
[03:18] <OneTruth> on port 22
[03:18] <jarro1> hello
[03:18] <daryl> bbrazil: cups wants "gnu autoconf" to install.  I am not sure where or what it is to get/install it
[03:18] <jarro1> i need some help please on installation of mplayer
[03:18] <tovella> OneTruth: are you sure openssh-server installed on the ubuntu box?
[03:19] <arrick> anyone, I installed Ubuntu first then I installed Windows Server 2003 Enterprise and now I am trying to get ubuntu to run, how do i do this without reinstalling ubuntu?
[03:19] <OneTruth> tovella: yea i just ran apt-get install ssh openssh-server
[03:19] <tovella> OneTruth: it must be configured to allow connections from you network segment.
[03:19] <pip`> ok i just did an auto partition and ubuntu set up another primary partition along with a tiny leftover swap partition each with 2 smiley faces next to them, is it ok now that i have more than one primary partition on a single hard drive or will that cause problems somehow later ?
[03:19] <bbrazil> daryl: are you not using the ubuntu packages?
[03:19] <OneTruth> ok, how do i do that?
[03:19] <daryl> bbrazil: not sure what that is
[03:19] <NoUse> !tell arrick about grub
[03:19] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know a good bbs server for ubuntu?
[03:19] <daryl> i'm on ubuntu dapper
[03:20] <tovella> FX: got another audible indication, but window opened and closed in a flash.
[03:20] <bbrazil> daryl: try sudo apt-get install cupsys
[03:20] <pip`> ok i just did an auto partition and ubuntu set up another primary partition along with a tiny leftover swap partition each with 2 smiley faces next to them,
[03:20] <daryl> bbrazil: trying now
[03:20] <jarro1> my problem is that ubuntu packages are not satisfactory for an installation
[03:20] <pip`>  is it ok now that i have more than one primary partition on a single hard drive or will that cause problems somehow later ?
[03:20] <OneTruth> tovella: how do i do that?
[03:20] <arrick> thanks
[03:20] <jarro1> please hel[
[03:20] <jarro1> ^help
[03:20] <NoUse> pip` that should fine
[03:20] <pip`> ok good thx
[03:20] <pip`> but i never heard of 2 primary partitions on one drive b4
[03:21] <pip`> heh
[03:21] <daryl> bbrazil: already newest
[03:21] <jarro1> actually, if anyone can just help me get ubuntu dapper setup to play most common media files id appreciate it
[03:21] <NoUse> pip` probably have never had two OSes on one hard drive before?
[03:21] <jarro1> i cant help myself in this area
[03:21] <bbrazil> daryl: goto http://localhost:631
[03:21] <Prophet> hi. I'm having a problem with my trashcan using Gnomb - I copied buch of files from dvd to a desktop on my folder - I moved the folder to the trashcan after i copied it accross the network - it keeps telling me I dont have access permissions to remove them from my trashcan, though I can move them from the trashcan to the desktop - I am logged in a root. Newish nix user.
[03:21] <AJR1> hey guys
[03:21] <Prophet> can anyone help or am i in the wrong place,
[03:21] <Prophet> :-)
[03:21] <AJR1> is there an ubuntu teamspeak
[03:21] <daryl> bbrazil: Unable to connect
[03:21] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> PEER!
[03:22] <NoUse> !justask
[03:22] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[03:22] <lukaswayne9> Can someone help me?  My parallel port isn't being detected in gnome-cups-add
[03:22] <jarro1> anyone?
[03:22] <bbrazil> daryl: hmm, sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[03:22] <NoUse> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO please stop yelling peer all the time
[03:22] <OneTruth> How do i configure OpenSSH-Server?
[03:22] <pip`> nouse, no hah
[03:22] <tmccrary> OneTruth: did you apt-get install ssh yet?
[03:22] <bbrazil> OneTruth: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:22] <OneTruth> tmccrary:  yes
[03:22] <NoUse> OneTruth its automatically configured when you install it
[03:22] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> it's a script
[03:22] <daryl> bbrazil: said it was starting.
[03:23] <OneTruth> I get a Connection Refused error when i try to connect
[03:23] <bbrazil> daryl: try accessing that again then
[03:23] <NoUse> OneTruth is the server running?
[03:23] <pip`> lala
[03:23] <OneTruth> as far as i know, i just installed it
[03:23] <NoUse> OneTruth sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:23] <OneTruth> NoUse: ok
[03:24] <daryl> bbrazil: i'm trying to run "autoconf -f" to install cups.  i guess its already installed?
[03:24] <OneTruth> NoUse: same thing
[03:24] <bbrazil> daryl: yes, don't bother trying to compile it
[03:24] <OneTruth> NoUse: maybe my hosts file isnt set-up right
[03:24] <daryl> bbrazil: so forgivbe me, but what next to use it to print?
[03:24] <bbrazil> daryl: ?
[03:25] <pip`> hey guys im curious, why does ubuntu insist on an ip address etc even if its not connected to the internet ?
[03:25] <OneTruth> is there a way to make my console not all in CAPS??
[03:25] <daryl> bbrazil: you said to use it to print to a windows share, instead of samba
[03:25] <BrandoCrap> anyone know of any good startup guides for dual-booting XP and ubintu (64 bit eds)?
[03:25] <daryl> bbrazil: i'm not sure how to use cups
[03:25] <bbrazil> daryl: you have to setup the printer. http://localhost:631/
[03:25] <tovella> OneTruth: is your mac client on the same network segment?  if so, it should just work...  try [ssh root@servernameORserverIP] 
[03:25] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> i'm in the Failsafe terminal what should i do
[03:26] <daryl> bbrazil: that says unable to connect.  am i supposed to be doing that in a browser?
[03:26] <NoUse> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO run nano ~/.xsession-errors
[03:26] <OneTruth> tovella: ssh root@10.25.50.31 returns: Connection refused
[03:26] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> k
[03:26] <bgf> newbie ? for y'all.....    i got ub v.5.10 up and running, then dropped another HDD in behind it.  however, i can't see the drive, even to mount it.  any suggestions?
[03:26] <NoUse> OneTruth you sure thats yoru IP address?
[03:26] <OneTruth> NoUse: thats what i put in the interfaces file...
[03:26] <pip`> do i really need to know that much about linux to use ubuntu ? im hoping its very freindly
[03:26] <jarro1> hello, i'm in need of help in setting up ubuntu to play some media files, if anyone knows of a great guide that would be awesome
[03:27] <NoUse> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO see if anything near the bottom of the file gives hints
[03:27] <fourat> !jre
[03:27] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fourat
[03:27] <NoUse> OneTruth run ifconfig
[03:27] <fiendskull9> hey
[03:27] <bbrazil> daryl: yes
[03:27] <fiendskull9> where is libXpm.so?
[03:27] <fourat> how to install flash and java plugins for firefox1.5 ?
[03:27] <tovella> jarro1: easyubuntu (use google) is great for this.
[03:27] <bbrazil> fourat: locate -i libXpm.so
[03:27] <OneTruth> NoUse: hmm that gives me a different IP address...
[03:27] <NoUse> pip` its different from windows, don't expect it to be exactly the same
[03:27] <fiendskull9> !tell fourat about easyubuntu
[03:27] <bbrazil> fiendskull9: ^
[03:28] <NoUse> OneTruth theres your problem :-)
[03:28] <daryl> bbrazil: thats not working... what about going into network settings, and setting up a host? do you know how to do it that way?
[03:28] <pip`> yes but umm, how much different ?
[03:28] <tovella> FX: i tried to PM you but got an autoreply, saying "I'm busy".
[03:28] <kbrooks> tovella: don't tell him to google.
[03:28] <pip`> i hope its not that hard
[03:28] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> ALOT of ERRORS
[03:28] <OneTruth> NoUse: yes sir, so how do i make the changes i made to interfaces apply?
[03:28] <kbrooks> tovella: it's counterproductive
[03:28] <bbrazil> daryl: the problem is that cups isn't running
[03:28] <NoUse> OneTruth you probably need to do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:28] <tovella> kbrooks: i simply don't recall the URL, and don't want to miss anything here.
[03:29] <kbrooks> tovella: YOU, the helper, are expected to google and provide a link
[03:29] <daryl> bbrazil: i see.  you got any more suggestions, or should i save this for another day?
[03:29] <pianoboy3333> I need a good sound for when mail arrives, anyone got any good suggestions/files?
[03:29] <fourat> fiendskull9, i didnt understood what is easyubuntu
[03:29] <bbrazil> daryl: /sbin/ifconfig - is "lo" up and working?
[03:29] <pip`> the reason i hate windows is cuz of all the crappy vague error messages as well as lack of file control etc and security
[03:29] <kbrooks> tovella: you "simply don't recall the URL"? ummm, i suggest you google
[03:29] <Kyral> pianoboy3333: the most annoying thing you can think of :P
[03:29] <bbrazil> daryl: or easy way: ping localhost
[03:29] <spikeb> i just don't like windows. shrug
[03:30] <kbrooks> tovella: or use '!easyubuntu'
[03:30] <humbraro> pianoboy3333: search for you've got mail - that'll drive you nuts
[03:30] <fiendskull9> hey, im using breezy, is it using xorg 6.8 or above?
[03:30] <fourat> !easyubuntu
[03:30] <pianoboy3333> humbraro: ...
[03:30] <daryl> 127.0.0.1
[03:30] <daryl> bbrazil: 127.0.0.1
[03:30] <BrandoCrap> do you guys recommend separate HDDs for dual-booting?
[03:30] <fiendskull9> !xorg
[03:30] <ubotu> xorg is, like, totally, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[03:30] <pip`> i am hoping one day i can make complete & perfect disk images, is there a preferred program for doing that with ubuntu ?
[03:30] <tino_> (translating 'about-ubuntu' which contains the frase: The Linux kernel has gained an ideological importance as well as a technical one) Q: should 'technical' be: 'technological'? or is that a technicality?
[03:31] <bbrazil> daryl: all looks good. any errors when you started up cupsys?
[03:31] <holysmoke> I keep getting an error about having to be root when I add a secondary harddrive to my system ... I used mkdir and added it to fstab but now it keeps saying you must be root to mount
[03:31] <fiendskull9> !xorg-version
[03:31] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[03:31] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> what do i do since 16 errors were reported
[03:31] <daryl> bbrazil: no
[03:31] <NoUse> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO what are the errors in?
[03:31] <bbrazil> daryl: check the logs for errors - probably /var/log/daemon.log
[03:32] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> ICE UNIX
[03:32] <pip`> my it takes a long time to install such a little program like ubuntu
[03:32] <daryl> um looking
[03:32] <holysmoke> the secondary drive is just for storage
[03:32] <pip`> looks like it might even take as long as xp to install
[03:32] <bbrazil> pip`: I use partimage
[03:32] <wy> I'm looking for a jabber server written in C or C++
[03:32] <fourat> !ff1.5
[03:32] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:32] <pip`> partimage, ok
[03:32] <pip`> i'll check that one out first
[03:32] <FX> tovella, I'm back now
[03:32] <OneTruth> ok new problem, now when i try to restart openssh i get "cannot load host key"
[03:32] <NoUse> pip` what makes you say ubuntu is little?
[03:33] <OneTruth> "could not load host key" sorry
[03:33] <NoUse> OneTruth did you run it with sudo?
[03:33] <daryl> bbrazil: that log is huge.  what you looking for?
[03:33] <tovella> jarro1: kbrooks: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[03:33] <basilio> hi all
[03:33] <bbrazil> daryl: just search for cups
[03:33] <OneTruth> NoUse: ahhh nope :)
[03:33] <pip`> well i guess it isnt really little is it? but i thought generally linux oses were alot less bloated or big as windows
[03:33] <zcat[1] > pip`: the difference is, ubuntu will ask you for all the details first and then spend 40 minutes installing.. windows will go 10 minutes, ask for locale settings, 10 minutes, username, 10 minutes, cd key, 10 minutes, timezone.... it's maddening
[03:33] <OneTruth> NoUse:  Tada
[03:33] <basilio> im a newbie in linux in general....any other channel for beginners
[03:34] <NoUse> pip` ubuntu installs the OS, the office suite, internet software and chat sofware
[03:34] <pip`> zcat, yes i can appreciate that
[03:34] <jarro1> this easyubuntu thing looks like a hit, thank you very much
[03:34] <NoUse> pip` windows just isntalls windows
[03:34] <daryl> bbrazil: cups phrase not found
[03:34] <OneTruth> NoUse:  ok so i restarted networking now ifconfig shows the new static IP but i cannot ssh to it...
[03:34] <pip`> nouse, ohh wow nice
[03:34] <pip`> i like that
[03:34] <NoUse> OneTruth connection refused?
[03:34] <OneTruth> NoUse: yea...
[03:34] <daryl> ugh i'm late for an appointment i got to go
[03:34] <zcat[1] > NoUse: apart from OpenOffice, breezy doesn't really have anything on the default install XP doesn't...
[03:34] <NoUse> OneTruth did you restart ssh?
[03:34] <bbrazil> daryl: check /var/log/cups
[03:34] <tovella> jarro1: just curious - did you use google before i found the URL?
[03:34] <kbrooks> jarro1: channel is #easyubuntu
[03:35] <OneTruth> NoUse: just did
[03:35] <pip`> are there many or any background services running in ubuntu in general at startup ?
[03:35] <zcat[1] > dapper packages a bit more stuff though
[03:35] <spikeb> not many no
[03:35] <NoUse> zcat[1]  openoffice is worth a couple hundred extra megabytes
[03:35] <bbrazil> basilio: here is pretty good. Maybe read the beginners guide on tldp.org
[03:35] <pip`> like in windows
[03:35] <pip`> ?
[03:35] <jarro1> yea, i tried all kinds of stuff, mainly trying to get mplayer to install
[03:35] <NoUse> OneTruth try ssh localhost
[03:35] <jarro1> but i cant compile anything cuz i have no ide atf im doing
[03:35] <OneTruth> NoUse: hold on i may have two devies on that ip
[03:35] <jarro1> ^wtf
[03:36] <OneTruth> NoUse: that worked
[03:36] <tovella> FX: still get autoreply.
[03:36] <OneTruth> NoUse:  and i dont have two devices on the IP
[03:36] <watnu> ubugtu: mplayer
[03:36] <watnu> pff
[03:36] <NoUse> OneTruth make sure you have the right IP then, because the server is running and accepting connections
[03:37] <FX> hmm what do you mean by autoreply?
[03:37] <pyrotic> tell pyrotic about paste bin
[03:37] <odell> Hey all, using a Sager 9860 with a M5603C (Bison) webcam and Dapper. Was wondering if anyone knew of any drivers for this beast or if they are in development? There's some action in Gentoo, but was wondering if anyone had any news about Ubuntu.
[03:37] <pyrotic> somone tell me about pastebin so I can get the link
[03:37] <pyrotic> I forgot the link to it >.<
[03:37] <NoUse> !pastebin
[03:37] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:37] <pyrotic> Thanks
[03:37] <apokryphos> pyrotic: /msg ubotu pastebin
[03:37] <OneTruth> NoUse: ok heres some new info, when i try to restart networking i get a failed message
[03:38] <NoUse> OneTruth I have to go, sorry
[03:38] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> PEER
[03:38] <NoUse> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO please shut off that script
[03:38] <OneTruth> NoUse:  No problem, thanks for the help!
[03:38] <basilio> bbrazil: can i connect mi ipod to ubuntu and sync the songs pretty much like itunes??
[03:38] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> fine
[03:38] <pyrotic> -------------- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13737 --------------------- Anyone?
[03:38] <pip`> will ubuntu give me admin access or no ?
[03:38] <apokryphos> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO: please change or truncate your name. It's spammy and obtrusive.
[03:39] <bbrazil> basilio: apt-cache search ipod <-- should list one or two useful programs
[03:39] <pip`> yes that nick is a pain in the eyeass
[03:39] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> fine
[03:40] <wre> ?
[03:40] <wre> owned?
[03:40] <tovella> pip`: by default, ubuntu gives the first "normal user" you created administrative rights, but you must use the "sudo" prefix.
[03:40] <pip`> haha yer just a shorty now :)
[03:40] <wre> p
[03:40] <wre> e
[03:40] <wre> e
[03:40] <wre> r
[03:40] <fourat> how to get easyubuntu ?
[03:40] <apokryphos> wre: what are you doing?
[03:40] <apokryphos> don't flood
[03:40] <wre> !easyubuntu
[03:40] <pip`> wats easyubuntu ?
[03:40] <pip`> !easyubuntu
[03:40] <arrick> anyone, why cant I copy files to a ftp site with the livecd firefox?
[03:41] <apokryphos> !+easybuntu
[03:41] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, apokryphos
[03:41] <bongshoe> i just installed 5.10 and rebooted and I get 'Loading GRUB... Error 2' ... any suggestions, urls, anything???
[03:41] <apokryphos> !+easyubuntu
[03:41] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/. If you want to chat about EasyUbuntu, please join #easyubuntu
[03:41] <arrick> what do I have to use on the livecd to do this?
[03:41] <pyrotic> ------------------- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13737 ------------------- anyone?
[03:41] <apokryphos> arrick: gftp, or even nautilus can
[03:41] <arrick> apokryphos, how do i access them in the live cd?
[03:41] <tovella> pip`: EasyUbuntu is an easy to use (duh!) script that gives the Ubuntu user the most commonly requested apps, codecs, and tweaks that are not found in the base distribution - all with a few clicks of your mouse. EasyUbuntu is so easy to use in fact, that even your grandma could be playing encrypted dvds, streaming Windows Media, and sporting the latest Nvidia or Ati drivers in minutes! And yes, EasyUbuntu is GPL.
[03:41] <basilio> bbrazil: is aptcache a webpage?
[03:42] <apokryphos> pyrotic: people have seen the posted link ("-------" really aren't necessary). If someone is able/willing to help, they will :)
[03:42] <bbrazil> basilio: it's a program. run it in a terminal
[03:42] <apokryphos> arrick: sudo apt-get install gftp
[03:42] <arrick> k
[03:42] <basilio> ok
[03:42] <wre> I GOT PEERED
[03:42] <basilio> let me try
[03:42] <arrick> no such packaged apokryphos
[03:42] <pyrotic> apokryphos My appologies, I only did that as a easier noticable...Won't do again, Thanks.
[03:42] <wy> I need some suggestions about a good jabber client
[03:42] <apokryphos> !info gftp
[03:43] <ubotu> gftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 76 kB
[03:43] <AJR1> hey all, is it possible to install ubuntu mounting the image inside of windows to my external HD?
[03:43] <bbrazil> wy: psi isn't bad
[03:43] <bongshoe> i just installed 5.10 and rebooted and I get 'Loading GRUB... Error 2' ... can't boot any OS, how do i use the install CD to boot the installed copy?
[03:43] <apokryphos> arrick: ok, enable the universe repository and install. Though I'm pretty sure nautilus handles ftp too, doesn't it?
[03:43] <arrick> yeah I cant find eaither of them
[03:43] <apokryphos> bongshoe: /msg ubotu grub
[03:43] <djpirate> shut up don't talk.
[03:43] <apokryphos> djpirate: ?
[03:43] <djpirate> no u
[03:43] <pyrotic> Anybody know how to install tcltls?... when I tried, this is what happened, - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13737 -, I'm trying to get AMSN, to work.
[03:43] <tovella> wy: gaim is the IM i use. it works with jabber, among many other protocols.
[03:44] <apokryphos> djpirate: what are you talking about?
[03:44] <djpirate> WHY GOD WHY
[03:44] <djpirate> no u
[03:44] <apokryphos> arrick: nautilus is the file manager that comes in gnome
[03:45] <pip`> wow, i forgot i actually was installing edubuntu, instead of ubuntu, i hope its fairly the same
[03:45] <AJR1> can i burn a CD image to a DVD and install from there?
[03:45] <basilio> cool everiday i spend with linux im more impress and happy   =)
[03:45] <apokryphos> pip`: edubuntu is targetted at schools, with educational tools etc
[03:45] <apokryphos> quite dissimilar
[03:45] <djpirate> Awaken my biniling, and embrace the fgt that is your birthright. Know that I am djpirate; the eternal will of the LoL!!~, and that you have been created to serve me.
[03:46] <LinuxJones> djpirate: please stop talking
[03:46] <djpirate> good riddance
[03:46] <djpirate> I think I bsed bartman once
[03:46] <djpirate> no u
[03:46] <wy> tovella:  I want to test the jabber server I installed in my box
[03:46] <AJR1> rofl
[03:46] <BlueSwirl> huzzah
[03:46] <djpirate> greyhill probably joined this channel to idle like a rnd disp pnknz fgt.
[03:46] <bbrazil> apokryphos: thanks
[03:46] <greyhill> not random
[03:46] <AJR1> all : anyone know how to install ubuntu from a mounted image? or if not, then can i burn the CD image to DVD disc and install from there?
[03:46] <arrick> hes back alreasy
[03:46] <bartman> anyone experiencing "out of memory" issues after upgrading to new hald?
[03:46] <pip`> oh no, darn
[03:47] <wre> son of a .....
[03:47] <Brian_> hello everyone...i've got some questions about installing the new dapper beta
[03:47] <pip`> it looks like maybe i really need easyubuntu now, will it be easier now that i;ve already partitioned etc ?
[03:48] <apokryphos> Brian_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[03:48] <QMario> Is there any good video editing software available for Ubuntu?
[03:48] <Brian_> ah, thanks a lot
[03:48] <Brian_> sorry to bother everyone =)
[03:48] <wre> my desktop is still not showing
[03:48] <apokryphos> Brian_: np :)
[03:48] <bbrazil> pip`: it's quite easy. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[03:49] <arrick> thanks apokryphos
[03:49] <LinuxJones> wre: what errors are showing when your desktop fails to come up
[03:49] <HIGH-FREQ> why do i keep gettin VFS: Cannot open root device "<NULL>" or unknown-block(3,1) Please append a correct root= boot option  ...... kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)
[03:49] <pip`> ahh ok, guess i'll reinstall over the top of edubuntu then ?
[03:49] <wre> none just blank
[03:49] <HIGH-FREQ> this is second kerenl i tried compiling and i can't figure it out
[03:49] <bbrazil> pip`: just do those instructions
[03:49] <QMario>  Is there any good video editing software available for Ubuntu?
[03:50] <LinuxJones> HIGH-FREQ: you don't have support for your filesystem compiled in your kernel
[03:50] <BlueSwirl> QMario: have you tried searching freshmeat and sourceforge?
[03:50] <tovella> QMario: kino works for some video formats.
[03:50] <HIGH-FREQ> linuxjones...its a *  for ext2,3,reiserfs
[03:50] <QMario> BlueSwirl, I found kino.
[03:50] <HIGH-FREQ> so its builtin
[03:50] <wre> is it possible to play windows games on linux?
[03:50] <LinuxJones> QMario: there are not any high quality ones as of yet
[03:50] <QMario> Are there any others?
[03:50] <pip`> hey guys, i already have kubuntu on cd, how does that compare to ubuntu or easyubuntu ?
[03:50] <BlueSwirl> QMario: have you tried kino?
[03:50] <apokryphos> pip`: kubuntu's the best :P
[03:50] <spikeb> pip`: it has kde instead of gnome.
[03:50] <greyhill> wre see www.winehq.org
[03:51] <apokryphos> pip`: it's worth trying out both gnome and kde, and seeing which you prefer. :)
[03:51] <QMario> Yes, but it is unable to open my .avi media files.
[03:51] <LinuxJones> HIGH-FREQ: do you have ide (or whatever kind of drive you have) support built into the kernel as well ?
[03:51] <pip`> ohh ok
[03:51] <BlueSwirl> QMario: ah boo. er, i'm stuck then :(
[03:52] <wre> is it possible from the prevous windows viruses?
[03:52] <HIGH-FREQ> LinuxJones: i've checked every single thing...lemme recheck...i followed the howtoes and all that..but i'm gnona double check "everything"
[03:52] <eggzeck> wre, what do you mean?
[03:53] <wre> i had viruses on window prevously before switching
[03:53] <eggzeck> wre, they're not there anymore
[03:53] <_jason> the man page for wget (specifically options -A and -R) refers to ``@pxref{Types of Files}''  What does that mean?  Where can I find that?
[03:53] <greyhill> wre there were some attempts to run windows viruses on wine but they went poorly :)
[03:53] <wy> I can't find openssl-dev from apt-cache search. why?
[03:53] <tovella> QMario: cinellera is a more capable video editor, but you won't find it in the ubuntu repositories.
[03:53] <eggzeck> wre, assuming you installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu and erased the entire windows partition
[03:54] <wre> i can't even get into my DESKTOp
[03:54] <greyhill> wre in windows, right?
[03:54] <LinuxJones> HIGH-FREQ: the ubuntu kernels use an initrd so most of the things like ide support are built as modules.
[03:54] <wre> used to be
[03:54] <wre> it wasent installed by me
[03:55] <bbrazil> _jason: that looks like a macro of some form. I'd say file a bug on it
[03:55] <HIGH-FREQ> LinuxJones: ya i seen that....
[03:55] <cpl_h38f49> couple rive sud de mtl cherche couple ce soir....!!!
[03:56] <bbrazil> !fr
[03:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:56] <_jason> bbrazil: ah, that does make sense.  Thanks
[03:56] <QMario> Thank you guys!!! :)
[03:57] <wre> maybe F2
[03:57] <bbrazil> _jason: looks fine in the HTML version
[03:57] <pyrotic> Can anybody help me install a printer?
[03:57] <pip`> killer clowns from outer space
[03:59] <pyrotic> I need help installing a Brother MFC 420CN Network Printer
[03:59] <majd> hi, is it possible to rip a cd to mp3?
[03:59] <_jason> bbrazil: not here, http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/display_man.cgi?id=d62cafa47459361dda6204acaa3fb63f&format=html maybe it's a debian problem
[03:59] <pip`> ppl in here are very helpful,
[03:59] <LinuxJones> pyrotic: sudo gnome-cups-manager and follow the prompts
[03:59] <wre> dang it
[03:59] <_jason> bbrazil: scratch that, I see it on gentoo's site too
[04:00] <LinuxJones> pyrotic: if the exact model isn't shown pick the closest one and it will likely work fine.
[04:00] <pyrotic> pyrotic@ubuntu:~$ sudo gnome-cups-manager
[04:00] <pyrotic> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May  9 19:35:57 2006
[04:00] <pyrotic> pyrotic@ubuntu:~$
[04:00] <pyrotic> woops!
[04:01] <bbrazil> _jason: just filing the bug now, what version are you running, I only have haory and sarge to hand
[04:01] <Awesome-o2000> Ive tried everything I can, regardless of what I do my system halts if I try to start x with dri enabled. I beg for help. x800gto agp256mb
[04:01] <pyrotic> timestamp too far in the future?????
[04:01] <LinuxJones> pyrotic: I don't know what the hell is up with that.
[04:01] <greyhill> pyrotic been playing with date?
[04:01] <wy> I'm trying to install jabberd2. It needn't the header files of openssl. But I can't find them in Ubuntu distribution.
[04:01] <_jason> bbrazil: I'm running 1.10.2-1ubuntu1 on dapper, link me to the bug and I'll confirm
[04:01] <pyrotic> LinuxJones ..me neither..
[04:01] <pyrotic> greyhill yea been trying to get it correct but everything I change, it stays to whatever the hell it wants to...
[04:02] <Awesome-o2000> fglrx-compatible libdri.a library to fix drmMap problem <--- this appears to be a solution for me, but I dont know what to do with a libdri.a file
[04:02] <Carbon_Monoxide> Hello everybody!
[04:02] <wre> grrr
[04:02] <Tedd> rrrg
[04:02] <bongshoe> it'd be really cool if GRUB had some kind of fail-safe mechanism rather than just saying something incoherent like "Error 2" and dying a miserable death
[04:02] <erisco_> hello
[04:03] <teimu> what plugin should i be using to view windows media for firefox?'
[04:03] <Tedd> teimu, m-player
[04:03] <majd> is it possible to rip a cd to mp3?
[04:03] <erisco_> I am having a problem with totem
[04:03] <Tedd> with w32codecs
[04:03] <wre> what is GRUB
[04:03] <majd> !rip mp3
[04:03] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, majd
[04:03] <majd> !mp3
[04:03] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:03] <Tedd> wre, grand unified bootloader
[04:03] <bbrazil> _jason: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wget/+bug/43930
[04:03] <pyrotic> ** (gnome-cups-manager:14131): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1030
[04:03] <teimu> Tedd, where can i get the w32 codecx?
[04:03] <pyrotic> what's that mean???
[04:03] <erisco_> I am not sure why, however when I view some .wmv files, they try to open in the browser
[04:03] <Tedd> if you have more than one OS on one computer you'd want it, wre
[04:03] <Tedd> teimu: www.wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:03] <spikeb> teimu: mplayer, totem, kaffeine...
[04:03] <erisco_> when they do open in the browser, it locks up after a few seconds
[04:03] <Tedd> that should gvie you some good advice teimu
[04:03] <erisco_> how can I stop this?
[04:03] <teimu> Tedd, thanks!
[04:04] <Tedd> No big, teimu, I was a newb once :P
[04:04] <pyrotic> how do I know what the URL is for the printer?
[04:04] <wre> when i first start up it says "loading GRUB"
[04:04] <teimu> Tedd, hey now! just because im asking for help doesnt mean im a newb =), or maybe it does?
[04:05] <wre> but i let it set for 1hr and it still was loading
[04:05] <Carbon_Monoxide> Read some references about Linux boot loader, wre
[04:05] <TTT_Travis> hey guys just released Ubuntu Center for the people that were here last night that didn't see it,
[04:05] <TTT_Travis> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Center_Alpha_1_Released_-_Web_Based_Ubuntu_Control
[04:05] <Tedd> teimu: 'sall good, I ask for help all the time and I"ve been using ubuntu for eight months :P
[04:05] <TTT_Travis> check it out
[04:05] <_jason> bbrazil: hmm you think it's the same as https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wget/+bug/14950 ?
[04:05] <TTT_Travis> I encourage everyone to try it out if you haven't already
[04:05] <pyrotic> brb
[04:05] <pyrotic> !brb
[04:05] <ubotu> pyrotic: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:05] <Tedd> wre: So? Why do you ask?
[04:05] <wre> and where is that
[04:05] <bbrazil> _jason: possibly related, but it looks like a seperate bug
[04:05] <wre> !grub
[04:05] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:06] <wre> i do not know i am new to this
[04:06] <Tedd> wre: Why do you need to know about GRUB? Do you have more than one OS on your machine?
[04:07] <wre> OS?
[04:07] <Tedd> operating system.
[04:07] <wre> yes
[04:07] <BlueSwirl> like windows, mac os, linux etc
[04:07] <Tedd> Does GRUB load and let you choose which you want to use, wre?
[04:07] <wre> nope
[04:07] <Tedd> then install GRUB with the link Ubotu gave you.
[04:08] <roger_mudd> Hotplug subsystem really slowing down my boot time. Anybody else ever have issues with this? Any way to verify and rectify the problem?
[04:08] <greyhill> grub's installed by default even for single-boot systems, isn't it?
[04:08] <Tedd> greyhill, I believed sotoo.
[04:08] <wre> im using window right now
[04:08] <_jason> bbrazil: k, confirmed.  Thanks
[04:09] <roger_mudd> greyhill: I believe so as well. It's need to run older kernels, no?
[04:09] <roger_mudd> needed
[04:09] <Joetheodd> Hey, I've asked this before, but forgot.. how do you convert a BIN && CUE -> ISO?
[04:09] <bongshoe> if i already installed ubuntu and i want to skip ahead to just fix GRUB can i use expert mode or some other boot param or do i have to copy the whole thing again..
[04:09] <Carbon_Monoxide> true
[04:10] <greyhill> roger_mudd I think so.  I have the feeling a few old version of the kernel stick around and then ... maybe are automagically removed?
[04:10] <Joetheodd> Ah, nevermind.. found it - bchunk.
[04:10] <roger_mudd> I don't know that much about kernels, but I think they remain on the system. You can remove them from GRUB, however, by deleting them from the list.
[04:11] <Carbon_Monoxide> greyhil: removed?
[04:11] <greyhill> carbon_monoxide wild speculation - are old kernels removed by dpkg?
[04:11] <cafuego> greyhill: No, they aren't.
[04:11] <greyhill> caruego danke :)
[04:12] <TTT_Travis> if anyone decides to install ubuntu center please let me know how it turns out at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1000274
[04:12] <Carbon_Monoxide> I didn't upgrade my kernel, but I don't think it will be removed automatically
[04:12] <cafuego> Removing an old (working) kernel before running a new (untested) one would be BAD[tm] 
[04:12] <wre> hmm...
[04:12] <wre> maybe i should insert the LIVE CD
[04:13] <roger_mudd> Hotplug subsystems:  Anyone.... Anyone... Beuller.... Bueller? I think it may be related to my external USB hard drive (which I cannot access).
[04:13] <wre> version5.10
[04:13] <Carbon_Monoxide> The installation is easy enough, wre. Choose your option carefully in EVERY steps.
[04:14] <wre> .....
[04:14] <Zetx> I'm using a marvel card and the sky2 module and my dmesg keeps telling me that the "Link is down" then shortly after "Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex, flow control none" ... I'm assuming that it's turning on and off or something. Any remedies (that doesn't require me buying a new card)?
[04:14] <Carbon_Monoxide> As I recall my memory, there was an option asking you that if you have another OS pre-installed on your system.
[04:15] <Drake> I have read on the forums of people have problems mount/umounting/ejecting cdroms from nautilus and I haven't seen a solution that works for me yet. I can moun/umount/eject from the command line but not in the gui
[04:15] <greyhill> roger_mudd when I used archlinux lshwd was faster for me than hotplug, but it's not in apt ( http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HotPlug )
[04:16] <roger_mudd> What exactly is hotplug? Just modules that allow communication between your OS and hardware... right?
[04:16] <wre> should i enter normal or recovery mode
[04:17] <Carbon_Monoxide> Actually, you can try to configure in GRUB and make the pointer to locate on the boot sector of your Ubuntu installed
[04:17] <pyrotic> Ok, anybody able toa ssist me?
[04:17] <pyrotic> assist*
[04:17] <wre> and how do i do that?
[04:17] <greyhill> roger_mudd hotplug loads the kernel modules that do the talking, I think
[04:18] <wre> i'm given 3 modes
[04:18] <pyrotic> I need help in installing a Network printer, I'm stumped at... where it asks me to insert the URL...?
[04:18] <roger_mudd> Ahhh.... Are they're necessary? This post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&referrerid=48700 seems to indicate that they are not.
[04:18] <roger_mudd> "Are they"
[04:19] <wre> norm recover and memtest86+
[04:19] <bongshoe> so aparently the latest kernel basically doesn't work with SCSI drives.. how nice of the installer to inform me of that before i wasted 5 hours on this PoS
[04:19] <bongshoe> goodbye ubuntu
[04:19] <tanq> i thought i read that in linux magazine.
[04:20] <greyhill> roger_mudd I guess if you find every module you need and write it into /etc/modules you'd be okay.
[04:20] <tanq> or that may have been the article on 64 bit ubuntu.
[04:20] <pyrotic> Can anybody help me install a network printer, 'Brother MFC 420CN' to be exact... what do I put in the URL blank..?
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> howdy peeps..
[04:20] <TTT_Travis> Amaranth, I released Ubuntu Center today, you can digg it and get it from here:  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Center_Alpha_1_Released_-_Web_Based_Ubuntu_Control
[04:20] <Amaranth> cool
[04:21] <murph2481> how do i put a 2 second pause between tracks when burning with k3b?
[04:21] <schmity> hey
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> what
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:21] <schmity> I LOVE YOU
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> :-O
[04:22] <schmity> ubuntu stops on start up
[04:22] <roger_mudd> greyhill: This is one of the error messages I'm getting from "dmesg"  usb 5-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> Mmmmmm
[04:22] <schmity> like right before login screen
[04:22] <roger_mudd> Does that look familiar to anyone?
[04:22] <schmity> it just stops
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> U need to re-install
[04:22] <schmity> i have
[04:22] <schmity> like 5 times
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> Oh..
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> Umm
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> whats yur setup?
[04:22] <Kr0ntab> pyrotic, how is it being shared?  is it using an HP jet direct card?  or windows share?  or unix print services on windows?
[04:22] <roger_mudd> schmity: did you check your CD?
[04:22] <schmity> well it used to work
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> Or.. do u have the latest distro?
[04:23] <schmity> but then it all the sudden
[04:23] <schmity> would stop loading up
[04:23] <greyhill> roger_mudd (sounds over my head) do you know what device that is? ( lsusb )
[04:23] <schmity> its the Free cds from ubuntu
[04:23] <schmity> i have a g4 powermac
[04:23] <wre> peer
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> OK.. so.. maybe u could DL the latest distro..
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> and try that..
[04:23] <pyrotic> Krontab I have it hooked up t my Wireless Router, this computer is on Ubuntu, and my laptop runs XP Pro, and they both need printing capabilities..
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> yuk.. Mac..
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:23] <wre> WHAT MODE SHOULD I ENTER?
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> j/k
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> Nooo... :0O
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> u
[04:24] <pyrotic> Krontab I put in the IP address, that the Printer "holds" as the URL.. and clicked next, now it asks to select a printer Driver, well, it doesn't list my printer in there... and I was told to find the one closest to my printer,, what would that be?
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> Mac basher basher U..
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:24] <roger_mudd> Could be my USB hard drive. Could be a 6-in-1 internal card reader. I'm not sure. "lsusb" only shows me the active USB devices. Those two don't work right now.
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> wre.. whats yur prob?
[04:24] <wre> NO DESKTOP
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> Ahh
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[04:25] <Carbon_Monoxide> wre : read this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub#head-778ecd20f83f92ebaa5aaec5f1b4615539c2f8d3
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> and yur in text mode only?
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> "command line"..
[04:25] <wre> nope
[04:25] <wre> just a blank screen
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> Oh..
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> video drivers..
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> what vid card ya got?
[04:26] <greyhill> roger_mudd yech, idk.  you think hotplug is choking on those devices for a while during boot?
[04:26] <Kr0ntab> pyrotic, http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/lpr_drivers.html
[04:26] <wre> 32-bit
[04:26] <Kr0ntab> your printer is listed...
[04:26] <roger_mudd> I think so. I've got to split for a second. BRB.
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> wre ok but what brand,..
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> need the correct drivers..
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> !ubotu no video
[04:27] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[04:27] <wre> 1 driver /c
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[04:28] <g0dchild> what do you guys use to split a tar.gz file?
[04:28] <Kr0ntab> pyrotic, it's in an RPM... you'll have to extract the driver and place it in your PPD directory...
[04:28] <g0dchild> into a 700 MB CD?
[04:28] <pyrotic> Krontab FYI - I'm a NeWb...
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> well, whatever video card u have, I would suggest finding the latest drivers compatable with Lnuix.. and go form there
[04:28] <g0dchild> please. some help?
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> Ummm
[04:28] <MacSlow> hm... some updates ago gstreamer stopped working for hd-quicktime clips.
[04:28] <Kr0ntab> pyrotic, im getting ya instructions... brb
[04:28] <spikeb> imagine that, gstreamer not working
[04:29] <greyhill> lol
[04:29] <shrewduser> guys, what's a good downloader to run in tan with firefox? i need something that can download off multiple sources simultaneously
[04:29] <pyrotic> Krontab I think I found instructions.. One second.
[04:29] <Kr0ntab> cool
[04:29] <wre> i cannot afford a new drivwe
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> g0dchild ok, yur tryin to do what with the file? Burn, wathc, ? or what?
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> wre no, driveR for the video card...
[04:30] <pyrotic> Krontab scratch that, they aren't in structions.. >.<
[04:30] <wre> no clue
[04:30] <CaBlGuY> wre, sorry, that's the best I know what to do is install the latest driver for your video card..
[04:31] <CaBlGuY> that should take care of the problem..
[04:31] <CaBlGuY> corse, ya have to know what driver to get..
[04:31] <CaBlGuY> Howdy ray_ O/
[04:31] <ray_> anybody know why it won't play podcasts? it says it shows as an mp3 but has html
[04:31] <mkoby> Hi all, I'm running Breezy, and I was wondering how to add an entry to my PATH?
[04:32] <pyrotic> Krontab - I'll watch for your post of instructions..until then, me zipped lips.. :)
[04:32] <CaBlGuY> ray_ im not versed in the poscasting so I wouldn't know about that...
[04:32] <g0dchild> CaBlGuY, am trying to make a backup of apt's cache and settings inside /etc/apt and then use them elsewhere on an offline machine :)
[04:33] <greyhill> mkoby first edit ~/.bash_profile
[04:33] <CaBlGuY> g0dchild ummmm ok.. so all u need to do is burn those aps to a CD then..
[04:33] <mkoby> greyhill: thanks.
[04:33] <pip`> is Breezy any good ?
[04:34] <ray_> anybody know why it won't play podcasts? it says it shows as an mp3 but has html
[04:34] <Milk_> is there a way to list files recursevly with their sizes?
[04:34] <CaBlGuY> if I remember right, theres a newer version./..
[04:34] <greyhill> mkoby then if you want X to get load it, create .xsession with "source /path/to/home/.bash_profile \newline exec gnome-session" or whatever you use for wm
[04:35] <greyhill> silly X won't invoke .bash_rc by default
[04:35] <CaBlGuY> Be Right Back. i'm gonna switch over..
[04:35] <AnsiC> hello
[04:35] <AnsiC> how can i set the repository on synaptic for install mplayer ?
[04:36] <cafuego> Milk_: ls -lR ?
[04:36] <greyhill> mkoby last when you log in from gdm, make sure you select "system default"
[04:36] <cafuego> ls -sR is less spammy
[04:36] <pyrotic> Krontab find anything?
[04:36] <orbin> AnsiC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[04:37] <Milk_> cafuego, let me ask a more pointed question..  I need to clear out some drive space and I want to see where I have large files hiding
[04:37] <Drake_> I have read on the forums about people have problems mount/umount/eject through nautilus and I haven't found a solution that works for me yet. I can mount/umount/eject from the command line but not through the gui
[04:37] <|Sivik|> anyone here know how to get chroot to work
[04:38] <ermac> hola
[04:39] <ermac> hey no caho na
[04:39] <amicrawler> where do i find all the deb pkgs
[04:39] <ermac> recien empece ubuntu
[04:40] <ray_> anybody know why it won't play podcasts? it says it shows as an mp3 but has html
[04:40] <puff> Evening, looking for a little help with wireless.
[04:40] <wre> wre
[04:41] <bbrazil> Milk_: "du -sh *" is the way I do it
[04:41] <puff> Specifically, when I go to my favorite hotspot and do "ifup eth1", ubuntu latches onto a not-so-near access point instead of the hotspot access point.  There's gotta be more precise way to control it...
[04:41] <bbrazil> Milk_: or http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~bbrazil/matrix/scripts/src/largest20
[04:42] <puff> du -sh * | sort -n
[04:42] <greyhill> puff have you looked at /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:42] <CaBlGuY> K back..  In ubuntu now.  :)
[04:42] <babo> Hi guys, I have a postfix config that is running amok, it doesn't seem to be able to open anything. I'm not sure where I should start. Can one of the experts have a look at it for me pls ... :-)  ?    http://pastebin.com/708743  Thanks
[04:43] <goga> hi everyone....i 've followed the instuctions in the ubuntu forum of how to install xgl an compiz under breezy but the xserver didn't load...
[04:43] <Drake_> anyone know what would make it imposible to mount/umount/eject cdrom from nautilus but able to do it form the command line?
[04:43] <g0dchild> CaBlGuY, really. is there no other solution- to split the tar archives using another utility?
[04:43] <goga> can anyone knows what that means?
[04:43] <bbrazil> puff: dont use -s with sort -n
[04:43] <bbrazil> puff: *-h
[04:43] <goga> i am a newbie as you can see
[04:44] <g0dchild> I am having trouble using k3b to burn that many files - i know how to. k3b keeps crashing :S
[04:44] <CaBlGuY> g0dchild,  Ummm im sure there is but, I haven't really played around with spliting and burning files in Ubuntu as much of some of the other guys have...
[04:44] <jdavila> Hi, I'm configuren a mail server with postfix, cyrus and sasl on breezy and I got a problem with sieve
[04:44] <spikeb> ooh
[04:44] <spikeb> bad k3b
[04:44] <|Sivik|> goga: what does your xorg.conf look like?  paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:44] <amicrawler> where do i find the restricted apps  the cool fun 3d games and apps ?
[04:44] <goga> ok wait a little bit
[04:45] <g0dchild> yeah, CaBlGuY - appreciate your help....so the other guys, what do you have on splitting tar files?
[04:45] <LathropWells> Drake "hdparm --help" knows the command i have at the moment forgotten (old aged cranky geek)
[04:45] <wre> THIS IS SO FUN
[04:45] <spikeb> sarcastic, crabby screaming is unecessary.
[04:45] <jdavila> the error is "unable to connect to server at /usr/bin/sieveshell line 174, <STDIN> line 1"
[04:45] <jdavila> wth does it means?
[04:46] <Milk_> wre, what in particular?
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> g0dchild,  honestly, it's been so long since I've missed with those in Linux, I can't remember..  :p
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> someone here will k now though. ;o)
[04:46] <pyrotic> Krontab guess I'll have you help me another time.. Good-Night..
[04:46] <amicrawler> cableguy   i'm satlitte guy
[04:47] <amicrawler> satellite guy
[04:47] <amicrawler> cable is satellit did you know that ?
[04:47] <amicrawler> cable is satellite did you know that ?
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> amicrawler,  Ummmm  yea thanks for the update...   :o/
[04:47] <amicrawler> they have  15 to 20' dishes
[04:47] <amicrawler>  and farm of them
[04:47] <pip`> how do i lookup my cpu clock speed in kubuntu ??
[04:48] <amicrawler> cable do you work for cox,comcast,charter ?
[04:48] <goga> sivik: i pasted the file....
[04:48] <Drake_> LathropWells: shouldn't that be affected in the command line also? I can mount/umount/eject fromt the command line but not able to do it from nautilus
[04:48] <jdavila> is there a command line irc client on breezy?
[04:49] <spikeb> there are a couple
[04:49] <amicrawler> the sacromento system is a 650mhz system
[04:49] <spikeb> bitchx, irssi, ircii, epic
[04:49] <pip`> and how do i look up my device manager in kubuntu ??
[04:49] <amicrawler>  the barow from paul to pay pete
[04:49] <LathropWells> Drake I wish i had more to offer. - sry
[04:50] <amicrawler> meaning  they  put there hsi on ch 79 and give every body  crapy service
[04:50] <pip`> does kubuntu have a registry ??
[04:50] <amicrawler> is wish they were a 1500mhz system
[04:50] <SuperK> Can kcontrol be reinstalled?
[04:50] <SuperK> when I start it I get this
[04:51] <CaBlGuY> amicrawler,  do u always ask so many damb questions??  :p
[04:51] <SuperK> Will not save configuration.
[04:51] <amicrawler> cableguy fuge man
[04:51] <SuperK> Will not save configuration.
[04:51] <SuperK> Configuration file not writeable
[04:52] <amicrawler> why are cableguys such mean people
[04:52] <amicrawler> i never understood that
[04:52] <Chetwin> Anyone having any luck in the wireless department ???
[04:52] <amicrawler> i was a cable guy my self  at one time my self
[04:52] <sambagirl> now this is truely far out. i have seen the video on this and it's amazing http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/
[04:52] <pip`> ami, were u nice ?
[04:52] <SuperK> and I get no list of modukes
[04:52] <AnsiC> synatptic do not find win32codecs for mplayer
[04:52] <SuperK> modules
[04:53] <amicrawler> yep
[04:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell AnsiC about w32codecsx
[04:53] <amicrawler> all way went the exrta mile for the  guys and custumers
[04:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell AnsiC about w32codecs
[04:53] <AnsiC> i has enabled the copright restriction
[04:53] <pip`> well parents usually cause most of their kids lousy personalities
[04:53] <AnsiC> and multivers repository
[04:53] <puff> greyhill you mean like this guy is talking about? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/312
[04:54] <greyhill> puff yep, that's what I use (not much roaming involved, though)
[04:54] <puff> greyhill: I know /etc/network/interfaces mostly as a place to define your network config, don't really think of it as controlling wireless, but I guess it makes sense.
[04:54] <puff> greyhill: I just figured there had to be some simple way of designating an access point to connect to.
[04:55] <beartrapproposal> i don't suppose i could obtain some help for an ubuntu newbie w/ zilch linux experience?
[04:55] <greyhill> puff I thought network-admin did a decent job
[04:56] <pip`> and how do i see my background processes in kubuntu ???
[04:56] <amicrawler> pip in the shelll  top
[04:56] <amicrawler> or  top -u you user name
[04:57] <LathropWells> or "sudo ps -e" for a simple listing
[04:58] <teimu> when i try to configure mplayer plugin for mozilla, i get an error, WARNING: firefox-plugin not found
[04:58] <pip`> ahh good ok thx
[05:00] <eimajenthat> anyone here used Ubuntu for AMD64?
[05:01] <beartrapproposal> might anyone have a suggestion as to why i cannot open synaptic in breezy badger?
[05:01] <teimu> beartrapproposal, are you currently using apt-get?
[05:01] <teimu> whats the error
[05:02] <teimu> you might be updating too, cant say without the error message
[05:02] <beartrapproposal> would that be in the terminal screen (again, i know zilch linux)
[05:02] <LathropWells> teimu - "mozcontrol"?
[05:03] <beartrapproposal> it said i had updates but nothing updates
[05:03] <BHSPitMonkey> hi
[05:03] <teimu> in the terminal, type "sudo -s -H', then type 'synaptic'...what does it say?
[05:04] <BHSPitMonkey> installed ubuntu, chose NOT to install a bootloader (I already have grub how I like it) and I added ubuntu to grub manually...
[05:04] <beartrapproposal> sudo: no passwd  entry for -H!
[05:04] <BHSPitMonkey> when I tried booting for the first time, got a kernel panic, said something to the effect of using the correct kernel arguments...
[05:04] <goga> is there anywhere an example of how xorg.conf file should look like for xgl and compiz installation with nvidia card
[05:04] <goga> ?
[05:04] <BHSPitMonkey> and about VFS... is this ringing a bell for anyone, or do I need to go and write it down again
[05:05] <teimu> beartrapproposal, is that the error?
[05:05] <beartrapproposal> yar
[05:05] <teimu> try sudo su
[05:05] <fiendskull9> hey guys, i installed konqueror, and it became my default file manager, how do i switch back to nautilus?
[05:05] <spikeb> sudo su?
[05:05] <teimu> it works =)
[05:05] <beartrapproposal> nothing, just the same prompt
[05:05] <spikeb> why not just use sudo with the shell option?
[05:05] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, when it asks for a pw, you're using the password you put in during the install of Ubuntu?
[05:06] <jariep1__> hi all
[05:06] <Nameeater> fn'BHSPitMonkey, http://name.pastebin.com/708776
[05:06] <teimu> beartrapproposal, also note, that the letters you type will NOT move the cursor when you're entering the password
[05:06] <slackern> /bin/bash && /bin/bash is very annoying :)
[05:06] <goga> is there anywhere an example of how xorg.conf file should look like for xgl and compiz installation with nvidia card under Breezy??
[05:06] <beartrapproposal> it isn't asking for a password
[05:07] <beartrapproposal> at least when i type "sudo su"
[05:07] <teimu> whats the prompt your at? does it say 'root' anywhere?
[05:07] <beartrapproposal> no root
[05:08] <teimu> Dr_Willis, i dont understand it either; my friend told me about it, and its just a convienent way to get root
[05:08] <beartrapproposal> "my username"@ubuntu:~$
[05:08] <teimu> hmm
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> teimu,  gee.. sudo -s seems nicer
[05:09] <teimu> same amount of characters =)
[05:09] <_jason> sudo -i is even better
[05:09] <teimu> whats -i mean?
[05:09] <BHSPitMonkey> Nameeater: are savedefault and boot part of the entry? I've never seen those before
[05:10] <_jason> teimu: gives you root, but resets all your environment variables so stuff in your $HOME doesn't end up owned by root
[05:10] <Madpilot> teimu, it gets you a shell, safer than sudo su
[05:10] <teimu> _jason, are you from CA?
[05:11] <_jason> teimu: nope
[05:11] <Nameeater> fn'BHSPitMonkey, I think savedefault is to set that one as the option grub boots by default (so not necessary) but all my entries have boot at the end
[05:12] <BHSPitMonkey> oh
[05:12] <teimu> beartrapproposal, try logging in again and see if you can open synaptic
[05:12] <gayanasa> how learn linux ubuntu
[05:12] <d3vice> does ubuntu run on intel core solo ?
[05:12] <gayanasa>  yes
[05:13] <_jason> gayanasa: help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com are good places to start
[05:13] <theblue> Hi all, I'm trying to add an entry into my $PATH, how would I go about doing this?
[05:13] <mithro> hi! how does one stop my computer from suspending everytime the AC plug is pulled out?
[05:13] <gayanasa> ubuntu is good os
[05:14] <teimu> hmm...wheres firefox usually stored?
[05:14] <danl> I used the macromedia installer for the newest version of flash, installed to /usr/lib/firefox and the plugin went to the correct directory and such, but it still doesn't work, any ideas why?
[05:14] <QMario> Would it be a wise idea to upgrade a 3-year 512MB SDRAM machine or just to make a new build?
[05:14] <QMario> It just seems as if my machine is dying daily.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> Upgrading somthing that old - is not worth the effort.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> unless you can find some cheap (free) parts
[05:15] <_jason> teimu: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/ , your personal stuff is in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[05:15] <Madpilot> QMario, sdram is actually hard to get ahold of, it seems - and more expensive than modern (DDR, DDR2, etc) RAM
[05:16] <Drake`> anyone know of a good place to start looking to trouble shoot what would cause a ssh session to close and unable to reconnect until server is rebooted?
[05:16] <bbrazil> Drake`: log files
[05:16] <jmoncayo> does ubuntu comes with a vnc client??
[05:17] <mDot> hey guys, i need help ompiling http://www.zoto.com/general/getting_started//linux into a .deb package
[05:17] <mDot> anyone have some time?
[05:17] <spikeb> is there any way to get kde applications to use the current gtk theme?
[05:17] <theblue> Hi all, I'm trying to add an entry into my $PATH, how would I go about doing this?
[05:17] <danl> teimu, it seems /usr/lib/firefox from my problem ;-)
[05:17] <spikeb> mDot: what's up
[05:17] <mDot> spikeb, it appears the source is a bunch of python scripts, i have no idea how to complie
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> jmoncayo,  apt-cache search vnc (and pick one and install it)  Kde also has theor remote desktop tool that does vnc
[05:18] <mDot> i want to use checkinstall to create a .deb
[05:18] <QMario> Okay, thank you, guys!!! :)
[05:18] <jmoncayo> theblue, export $PATH='';
[05:18] <DanglyBits> anyone know why i might be getting a kernel modules load error when trying to load dapper beta for amd64?
[05:18] <spikeb> mDot: source for?
[05:18] <earthen> could someone give me some help getting a bluetooth mouse to work in dapper
[05:18] <mDot> http://www.zoto.com/general/getting_started//linux
[05:18] <jmoncayo> Dr_Willis, yea but before doing that apt search i was wondering if ubuntu comes already with one installed
[05:19] <danl> DanglyBits, it may be better to ask in the dapper chat #ubuntu+1
[05:19] <beartrapproposal> no such luck teimu
[05:20] <Drake`> bbrazil: what type of log file would help see what caused an ssh session to fail?
[05:20] <cjones> how do you run wine
[05:20] <_antix> wine
[05:20] <bbrazil> Drake`: whichever one has the ssh logs in it (auth.log or daemon.log)
[05:20] <spikeb> wine <windows program name>
[05:20] <mDot> spikeb they are very little help, ill try again
[05:21] <spikeb> mDot: can you pastebin the file with the installation instructions?
[05:21] <mDot> sure
[05:21] <beartrapproposal> could someone offer advice as to why synaptic package manager is not opening
[05:21] <cjones> but dont you have to install the program into ubuntu first or just mount the ntfs partition
[05:21] <spikeb> mDot: i might be able to translate it into human readable language for you hehe
[05:21] <PrimoTurbo> Is there a good 3d benchmark utility something that really tests opengl for example not fglrxgrears or glxgears or whatever
[05:21] <beartrapproposal> i just installed ubuntu and that's one of several problems i'm having
[05:22] <PrimoTurbo> wow my xchat just closed for no reason....
[05:22] <spikeb> heh
[05:22] <PrimoTurbo> anyone answer my question
[05:22] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, did you do a default install, and are you logged in as the user you created during install?
[05:22] <Kr0ntab> mDot,
[05:22] <beartrapproposal> yes
[05:22] <Kr0ntab> the README in the file says to compile with qmake
[05:22] <mDot> spikeb http://pastebin.com/708794
[05:22] <luther> hi.  i ran ./configure for some source and it said i need the "library xml2".  is this listed as libxml2-dev in package manager?
[05:23] <spikeb> luther: yes
[05:23] <mDot> Kr0ntab sup?
[05:23] <spikeb> mDot: ok, so what are your troubles with it
[05:23] <mDot> spikeb firing up terminal to see
[05:23] <spikeb> k
[05:24] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, and System->Admin->Synaptic isn't working when you put your user pw in?
[05:24] <beartrapproposal> i don't get anything to appear
[05:24] <agraupe> does linux/ubuntu support 802.11g networking, or only 802.11b?
[05:24] <beartrapproposal> my headphones make some sort of bump, which makes me think i had an error
[05:24] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, odd... have you tried sudo in the terminal?
[05:24] <ESPOiG> has anyone built a gaim2.0 .deb file cause everytime i try it fails with something different :D
[05:25] <beartrapproposal> when i System->Admin->Synaptic nothing appears
[05:25] <spikeb> not me ESPOiG
[05:25] <beartrapproposal> i'm not positive what to put in the terminal
[05:25] <ESPOiG> spikeb: do you have it
[05:25] <beartrapproposal> i've done sudo apt-get update
[05:25] <mDot> spikeb qmake - command not found
[05:25] <beartrapproposal> and nothing happens
[05:25] <spikeb> ESPOiG: no - i'm sticking with 1.5 until 2 goes stable
[05:25] <beartrapproposal> i just get the same command prompt
[05:25] <spikeb> mDot: install qmake
[05:25] <Aeh> Boa noite tenho um Hd instalado o ubunto e coloquei esse hd como slave (hdb2) em outro micro com ubuntu tambem, quero acessar a pasta /var/www desse hd (hdb2) e no estou conseguindo alguem pode me ajudar? a
[05:25] <ESPOiG> spikeb: ah
[05:26] <LathropWells> agraupe - It supports both :)
[05:26] <mDot> spikeb Couldn't find package
[05:26] <mDot> hang on
[05:26] <jmoncayo> how can i download something from a box to where i am sshed??
[05:26] <spikeb> mDot: k
[05:26] <ESPOiG> spikeb: im still waiting for 6.06 :P im just updating programs on 5.10 to keep me occuppied
[05:26] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, yeah, sudo apt-get update should do more than that...
[05:26] <spikeb> ESPOiG: lol i'm actually running dapper at the moment
[05:26] <beartrapproposal> unless there's some mystery box that i'm not seeing
[05:27] <ESPOiG> spikeb: yeh but it aint the release, thats what im exactly waiting for :D
[05:27] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, not w/ sudo apt-get update, there isn't..
[05:27] <beartrapproposal> but i only have one workspace, so i don't think that's it
[05:27] <ESPOiG> spikeb: the Xubuntu one
[05:27] <jmoncayo> how can i copy something down to my computer from a box where i am sshed??
[05:27] <spikeb> ESPOiG: oooh
[05:27] <spikeb> ESPOiG: good idea, xubuntu is quite unstable yet
[05:27] <luther> gripe:  why does configure tell me the libs i need ONE AT A TIME
[05:27] <ESPOiG> spikeb: ff is so slow on dapper
[05:28] <slackern> ESPOiG: Mine is running fine now after a an update or 2 ago to it.
[05:28] <spikeb> ESPOiG: mine runs good
[05:28] <varsendagger> hey what is the difference between xmms and xmms2   and where can i get a .deb of ardour?
[05:28] <FluffyArmada> Anyone in here using ppc64 ubuntu? If so, has the alsa/whatever bug been fixed? So using any audio whatsoever doesn't lock up the system anymore?.
[05:29] <spikeb> i didnt even know that g5 mac audio was supported at all
[05:29] <PrimoTurbo> How do you install a .sh file?
[05:29] <spikeb> PrimoTurbo: make it executable, then sh ./file.sh
[05:30] <FluffyArmada> PrimoTurbo: you run it with $ chmod a+x file.sh && ./file.sh
[05:30] <delmar> LOL.. stupid CUPS.. was telling me the printer was online and ready and stuff.... been messing about for 5mins restarting CUPS and trying different crap... then tried to ping the printer... cable wasnt in properly... ffs. CUPS tells lies.
[05:30] <waldo> can I get confirmation that firestarter is the best easy-to-use-for-beginners firewall for ubuntu?
[05:30] <LathropWells> PrimoTurbo, "sudo sh /your/file.bin"
[05:30] <spikeb> waldo: yes
[05:30] <mshade> !glxgears
[05:30] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[05:30] <PrimoTurbo> thanks
[05:30] <tony14764> How do I fix clipping/jumping video when playing a DVD?
[05:30] <waldo> spikeb: thanks
[05:31] <delmar> tony14764, sure its not the DVD that has issues.. scratch or smudge... ?
[05:31] <FluffyArmada> tony14764: look up enabling dma mode for your dvd drive. I think that's what it's called. I think it's in the ubuntu faq. Sorry, i'd check but nothing really works right now on my system.
[05:31] <PrimoTurbo> 4000 fps good for glxgears, having it not covered by anything or anything like that...
[05:31] <wiBo> how to be a developper here for ubuntu?
[05:31] <PrimoTurbo> ?
[05:31] <mshade> PrimoTurbo, yeah
[05:31] <spikeb> 28410 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5681.923 FPS
[05:31] <spikeb> hah
[05:31] <luther> can't find this in package manager configure: error: You need libIMG/SDL_image to compile Armagetron.
[05:31] <LathropWells> In UT99 the mouse cursor is trapped in a small square of screen real estate. - has anyone seen this?
[05:31] <luther> or in google
[05:31] <PrimoTurbo> did u cover it with an application?
[05:32] <PrimoTurbo> cause I can get 7000 if I leave it in the back
[05:32] <tony14764> DVD is fine (plays perfect in the DVD or Windows machine) DMA=0
[05:32] <LathropWells> UT2k4 is fine
[05:32] <spikeb> dma needs to be enabled
[05:32] <delmar> tony14764, yep. DMS would be a good idea
[05:32] <delmar> DMA*
[05:32] <delmar> come to think of it.. i havent got to that on my box...
[05:32] <mshade> uncovered: 6088fps.. covered: 11069
[05:32] <tony14764> DMA=1   ?>
[05:32] <FluffyArmada> tony14764, I'm not sure how, but I think you can enable dma mode, and it'll play properly
[05:32] <FluffyArmada> that used to happen to me
[05:32] <delmar> where do u set the DMA?
[05:33] <spikeb> !dma
[05:33] <mshade> PrimoTurbo, what card do you have?
[05:33] <tony14764> hdparm
[05:33] <delmar> hdparm of course
[05:33] <spikeb> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:33] <LathropWells> sudo hdparm -d1 /path/to/your/drive
[05:33] <delmar> ok. off shopping. remember.. CUPS is a Lier.. :P
[05:33] <spikeb> haha
[05:34] <mDot> spikeb no joy
[05:35] <spikeb> mDot: you need qt3-dev-tools installed for qmake
[05:35] <mDot> spikeb installing now
[05:35] <tony14764> DMA=1 ....Still        choppy.
[05:35] <spikeb> tony14764: bah
[05:35] <fourat> i have a fresh install on my latop (ubuntu) it detcts my wifi card as ath0, iwconfig shows that the interface is not connected to any ESSID, 'iwlist ath0 scanning' will say: ath0 Interface doesnt support scanning: Network is down
[05:35] <fourat> what should i do ?
[05:36] <BHSPitLappy> thanks, Nameeater
[05:36] <BHSPitLappy> worked
[05:36] <Dangly> anyone help with a kernel modules error in dapper beta for amd64?
[05:36] <soop> fourrat: broadcom card?
[05:36] <d3vice> fourat, tried manually setting essid info?
[05:36] <tony14764> THekicker is it woks perfect with OS 9.2 or OS X
[05:36] <fourat> d3vice, where ? i have no entries in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:36] <d3vice> oh
[05:37] <fourat> it's the first time i use wifi on linux
[05:37] <LathropWells> tony14764, - there is a command to enable 32 bit wwrite access it likely has been done auto-magically for you. did "hdparm" at the command line give you any info?
[05:37] <JonBoon> is there any way to know what kind of ram you have? the sticks in this old emachine are blank
[05:37] <fourat> !wifi
[05:37] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:38] <cge> In xchat, is there some way to change my hostmask so it doesn't include my username?
[05:38] <mDot> spikeb - appears to work
[05:38] <mDot> thanks
[05:38] <tony14764> LathropWells, alot of stuff
[05:39] <mDot> readme says i need xmlrpc-c-1.2, but i can't find it
[05:39] <spikeb> mDot: let me check
[05:39] <LathropWells> lol - yes it is more than a little cryptic.
[05:39] <spikeb> hmm
[05:39] <specialbuddy> how do I uninstall something
[05:39] <spikeb> mDot: have you tried installing libxmlrpc-c3-dev
[05:40] <jmoncayo> can somebody tell me how to copy files with scp and if i can use it if i am sshed with -X flag?
[05:40] <mDot> spikeb doing it now
[05:40] <elkbuntu> what package is needed for zlib?
[05:40] <mshade> jmoncayo, scp is independant of any other sessions
[05:40] <waldo> whats the difference between apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean and which do I want to use if I'm low on hd space?
[05:40] <mshade> you don't have to be ssh'd to use it
[05:40] <mshade> ssh remotehost:/path/to/foo /path/to/localfile
[05:40] <mshade> err scp
[05:40] <mshade> instead of ssh
[05:40] <LathropWells> tony14764, this link can explain it better than i can http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/man/man8/hdparm.8.html
[05:41] <tony14764> LathropWells, HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Permission denied
[05:41] <tony14764>  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[05:42] <LathropWells> tony - did sudo help?
[05:42] <jmoncayo> mshade, how can i use scp could you give me an example?
[05:42] <specialbuddy> I'm low on harddrive space and want to uninstall a quake 4 demo that I installed but I'm not sure where to go in order to get rid of it
[05:44] <specialbuddy> anyone?
[05:44] <waldo> special how di dyou install it?
[05:44] <waldo> di dyou run an installer or did you use apt-get or what
[05:44] <specialbuddy> installer
[05:44] <waldo> did the installer have an uninstaller?
[05:44] <specialbuddy> um
[05:44] <specialbuddy> let me check
[05:45] <waldo> or a flag in the installer like --uninstall
[05:45] <LathropWells> waldo - i was wondering if apt tracks all installs?
[05:45] <tony14764> I'm trying it
[05:45] <spikeb> mDot: any luck?
[05:45] <waldo> I'm no apt-expert but I don't htink it would track installations from a self-installer...
[05:45] <FX> I'm thinking I really hate this tvtuner thingy for linux. lol
[05:45] <spikeb> LathropWells: no
[05:45] <spikeb> FX: heh
[05:46] <Zetx> I'm using a marvel card and the sky2 module and my dmesg keeps telling me that the "Link is down" then shortly after "Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex, flow control none" ... I'm assuming that it's turning on and off or something. Any remedies (that doesn't require me buying a new card)?
[05:46] <jd_> hello
[05:46] <waldo> Zetx: does it keep going up and down and up and down?
[05:46] <mDot> spikeb http://pastebin.com/708824
[05:47] <waldo> and if so, when it goes off, what does dmesg say?
[05:47] <waldo> maybe it's a connectivity/interference thing w/wireless (?)
[05:48] <Zetx> it just says "sky 2 eth1: Link is down."
[05:48] <jd_> I have never used IRC before can some one tell me a bit about it
[05:48] <spikeb> hmmmm
[05:48] <ubuntu> when i run ubuntu vmx in vmware player, why does it emulate an intel 440bx motherboard
[05:48] <spikeb> mDot: now im lost
[05:48] <LathropWells> tony14, - gee sudo set and unset 32 bit access for my cdrom  "sudo hdparm -c1 /dev/cdrom" (shrug) i am easily confuzzled.
[05:48] <mDot> jd_ always.... wait... i mean NEVER believe anything anyone tells you
[05:48] <mDot> ever
[05:49] <jd_> Is this just a chat or is there more to it
[05:49] <ubuntu> is anyone running ubuntu in vmware player?
[05:50] <waldo> Ubugtu: I am occasionally in gentoo, why?
[05:50] <mDot> spikeb yeah, this is silly, im going to talk with the people at zoto.com about dbuilding a .deb pk
[05:50] <spikeb> mDot: ok
[05:50] <spikeb> mDot: or, at the very least, a fricken binary tar.gz
[05:50] <mDot> yeah
[05:52] <jd_> Help
[05:52] <waldo> is there a safe way to change the root password?  I think I picked something kinda insecure...
[05:52] <pauldaoust> hey, folks, does anybody know a way to duplicate printer settings across a whole network of computers? I've searched the Web, but haven't found anything useful... I tried copying all the CUPS configuration files from a properly configured computer to all the computers on the network, which resulted in all network printers disappearing from the GNOME printing preferences. Hurrah!
[05:53] <pauldaoust> waldo: hm, you changed the root password?
[05:53] <waldo> pauldaoust: no I mean when I first set up dapper I set it up for me.  Now I'm giving th ecomputer to a friend and I want to set the pw to something he wants...
[05:54] <spikeb> waldo: oh
[05:54] <jd_> Will someone tell be a bit about IRC
[05:54] <waldo> can I do it from Users & Groups safely in GNOME?
[05:54] <pauldaoust> waldo: ah, well, there isn't really a useful root account in Ubuntu unless you explicitly monkey around with a bunch of stuff.
[05:54] <spikeb> waldo: yes
[05:54] <waldo> pauldaoust: I don't mean the "root account" I mean the password to do sudo...
[05:54] <spikeb> waldo: it's the user's password though, not root's.
[05:54] <specialbuddy> how do I uninstall the quake4 demo
[05:54] <fourat> how to get gnome starting automaticly on system bootup
[05:54] <waldo> hmm.. if I just change my first-created user password, that will change the sudo pw?
[05:55] <spikeb> waldo: yes
[05:55] <pauldaoust> waldo: ah, I get you. simply change the password for the very first account you created (which was automatically given sudo privileges when it was created). All users with sudo privileges have their own sudo password, which matches their login password.
[05:55] <spikeb> waldo: sudo asks for the user's password when it asks for a password
[05:56] <pauldaoust> fourat: you mean, log in to a certain user's account?
[05:56] <waldo> pauldaoust: does that mean if I create a second user for my friend, I give it sudo privilages, then I can take away the sudo privs for me?
[05:56] <fourat> no
[05:56] <waldo> spikeb: that makes snes..
[05:56] <waldo> fourat: you "no"ing me?
[05:56] <pauldaoust> waldo: you could, yes.
[05:56] <spikeb> waldo: yes, you can give the second user sudo privs, then THAT users password is the sudo password, for them
[05:56] <pauldaoust> fourat: whatcha trying to do then?
[05:57] <waldo> okay, spikeb  then I can remove my own sudo privs and everything's cool?  Even delete that first account?  There's nothing about being "user #1" that's inherently important to the system... correct?
[05:57] <fourat> i have ubuntu boooting at init2 (rc2) and not loading gnome desktop, put me into shell, i execute startx to get gnome, i would like to boot to gnome directly
[05:57] <FX> does anyone got idea how  i can fix this?
[05:57] <spikeb> waldo: correct
[05:57] <FX> videoinput: Cannot open capture device evice:
[05:57] <waldo> spikeb: cool thankye
[05:57] <pauldaoust> fourat: ah, that's odd. It shouldn't start GNOME, mind you; it should start up a fancy graphical login manager called gdm
[05:57] <spikeb> waldo: just make ABSOLUTELY SURE that sudo is working for the new user before you delete your old account\
[05:58] <Zetx> oops, sorry, i spaced out for a moment.
[05:58] <Zetx> waldo: my wireless is off and this doesn't happen in a windows environment
[05:58] <pauldaoust> fourat: did you make it boot into runlevel 2? or did something go wrong in the installation?
[05:58] <waldo> spikeb: heheh yeah that makes sense :)
[05:58] <spikeb> waldo: sounds like you're good to go
[05:58] <fourat> pauldaoust, it's booting by default to init 2
[05:59] <elkbuntu> what package does one need to install to get zlib?
[05:59] <fourat> i have S13gdm in my /etc/rc2.d
[05:59] <waldo> spikeb: much thanks
[05:59] <spikeb> waldo: you bet
[05:59] <waldo> Zetx: hmm...  not sure
[05:59] <jd_> 
[05:59] <specialbuddy> I love how I installed the doom 3 demo and it tells you how to install but uninstall
[05:59] <pauldaoust> fourat: bizarre.
[06:01] <waldo> now for some reason gnome-nettool keeps crashing...  ugh.
[06:02] <LKJDLFKJl> ererdfdfddsf
[06:02] <specialbuddy> how do I uninstall doom 3 demo
[06:02] <pauldaoust> jd_: those are interesting characters; they look like Ethiopian.
[06:02] <specialbuddy> has anyone come across this
[06:02] <pauldaoust> specialbuddy: not a game person myself.
[06:02] <LKJDLFKJl> yep
[06:02] <specialbuddy> ok
[06:03] <LKJDLFKJl> how do you still see my name
[06:03] <waldo> specialbuddy: by default the setup will install the files to /usr/local/games/doom3-demo
[06:03] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: because it was up above and I only just now noticed that you changed it :)
[06:03] <waldo> that's from a simple googling
[06:03] <NoUse> specialbuddy http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79623.html
[06:04] <LKJDLFKJl> I am new to this if you cant tell
[06:04] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: :)
[06:04] <specialbuddy> well I know where it's installed
[06:04] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: but how on earth did you get Coptic script in your message?!
[06:04] <waldo> specialbuddy: so delete that directory and the .doom3 directory in your home folder
[06:04] <pauldaoust> so, has anyone had experience with printers in a networked environment? I'm trying to copy network printer settings to eleven computers, and am not terrifically excited about the prospect of going into each computer's System > Printers control panel and creating two new printers and typing in the URL for each one and changing each from A4 to US letter. phew!
[06:04] <LKJDLFKJl> I have no idea?
[06:05] <specialbuddy> will that completely get rid of it waldo?
[06:05] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: Hah! so you're not an Ethiopian yourself?
[06:05] <waldo> specialbuddy: apparently, according to what I'm reading online in 2 different places.
[06:05] <NoUse> specialbuddy read the link I sent you, they talk specifically about how to remove doom3
[06:05] <specialbuddy> ok
[06:05] <waldo> specialbuddy: you should google a little before you ask
[06:05] <waldo> specialbuddy: the answer was right here
[06:06] <specialbuddy> thankyou
[06:06] <LKJDLFKJl> do you mean these     
[06:06] <spikeb> hey!
[06:06] <spikeb> those are cool
[06:06] <specialbuddy> I'm just used to windows where you are not supposed to just delete a folder
[06:06] <spikeb> specialbuddy: hehe
[06:07] <waldo> specialbuddy: linux is different.  Mac is different even more :)
[06:07] <NoUse> specialbuddy if you isntall via apt or synaptic you shouldn't but with games that have their own install script it shouldn't hurt much
[06:07] <waldo> w/mac you just drag/drop the application in the trash
[06:07] <LKJDLFKJl>         
[06:07] <spikeb> waldo: theoretically
[06:07] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: that is fantastic. no idea what it means, but hey!
[06:07] <waldo> spikeb: yeah... you do have preferences/caches/etc to deal with too
[06:07] <specialbuddy> ok
[06:07] <spikeb> waldo: yeah
[06:08] <specialbuddy> I think I will do the same with Quake then
[06:08] <LKJDLFKJl> I said you right click on the back and select imput methods
[06:08] <waldo> I'm suprised there isan't an apt-get package for quake/doom etc
[06:08] <spikeb> waldo: there probably is for quake pre-4
[06:08] <spikeb> waldo: and doom pre-3
[06:08] <spikeb> those are all open source ow
[06:08] <spikeb> now
[06:08] <waldo> so-- specialbuddy -- use those if you can.
[06:09] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: .
[06:09] <LKJDLFKJl> nice
[06:09] <waldo> who wants to help me figure out why my fresh install of Dapper crashes w/gnome-nettool
[06:09] <specialbuddy> apt didn't have any
[06:09] <waldo> segfaults
[06:09] <spikeb> waldo: i can tell you right now: because it's dapper :)
[06:09] <waldo> hrmph
[06:10] <specialbuddy> how do I rmdir if there is stuff in it
[06:10] <spikeb> specialbuddy: rm -r, or rm -rf if you're SUREe you want it all gone
[06:10] <specialbuddy> ok
[06:10] <specialbuddy> thanks
[06:10] <spikeb> night folks, im outta here
[06:10] <yaaar> spikeb: that's a kind of lame excuse. when they went to do the delay of dapper, they did it saying that the betas around 4/20 would be 'as stable as breezy'
[06:10] <waldo> specialbuddy: be careful with that rm -rf command
[06:11] <specialbuddy> well I'm just getting rid of the folder like you suggested
[06:12] <waldo> specialbuddy: okay..  cuz if you're in the wrong directory with "rm -rf *" you could seriously do some damage
[06:12] <specialbuddy> yeah
[06:12] <specialbuddy> thanks for the warning
[06:12] <Fiyawerx> hi guys, can anyone help me with some partitioning suggestions?
[06:12] <specialbuddy> :)
[06:12] <waldo> np
[06:13] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: probably....just ask
[06:13] <Fiyawerx> or is there somewhere else i should be asking? doing a new format of my desktop pc, want to save some room for a linux install
[06:13] <specialbuddy> I've already learned my lesson from doing that for the most part
[06:13] <Fiyawerx> and have liked ubuntu so far from playing with it on my laptop
[06:13] <Fiyawerx> have 230 gigs or so on my hd free
[06:13] <mDot> how to i enable vsync in mplayer?
[06:13] <Fiyawerx> and would like to have a decent amount of shared space that the linux could write to, it can't natively write to ntfs, right?
[06:14] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: hehe....well, any amount you want to leave to linux is your business. you won't need any more than around 5g
[06:14] <Fiyawerx> well, was thinking for torrents and things like that, too
[06:14] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: it cannot write to ntfs. it has good read/write support for fat
[06:14] <Fiyawerx> i guess my main question is
[06:14] <Fiyawerx> is it bad to have most of my hd fat32
[06:14] <specialbuddy> how do I find out how much space is on my computer
[06:14] <specialbuddy> or on my drive I mean
[06:14] <Fiyawerx> and just do like a 10 gig folder for my windows installation with ntfs
[06:14] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: well, it depends on what you mean by 'bad'
[06:15] <Fiyawerx> well, ok, what's the downfall of doing it that way?
[06:15] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: it's not the fastest file system around, or the most reliable or stable....
[06:15] <Fiyawerx> hmm
[06:15] <zeeble> Hello
[06:15] <miracle> hi
[06:16] <yaaar> when compared to ntfs or any of the mainstream linus fs it's not very good on paper. but it's really nice as a lowest common denominator....pretty much everything can write to fat
[06:16] <specialbuddy> whats the easiest way to find out how much space is on my harddrive
[06:16] <yaaar> specialbuddy: df -h
[06:16] <zeeble> df -h
[06:16] <specialbuddy> cool
[06:16] <specialbuddy> thanks
[06:16] <miracle> df -sh
[06:16] <specialbuddy> that works really well
[06:16] <specialbuddy> :)
[06:16] <Fiyawerx> and mostly with the windows install will be playing games, sorting music files
[06:17] <miracle> is windows still alive?
[06:17] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: i use fat on all my removable media, and for the windows partition on the only dual boot machine i still have (it's got a 5g fat partition and the other 55g reiser for linux), but otherwise i don't use it
[06:17] <Fiyawerx> yeah i think my external usb drive is fat, last i checked
[06:18] <Fiyawerx> ok, so maybe 10 for windows install part, 10 for linux install (just to be fair), 150 ntfs, 60 fat32 for whatever i'd want to do / xfer in linux?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> You can set up XP to read/write to the ext2/3 file system of linux
[06:20] <mabus> How come I can't seem to use putty to connect to my ubuntu ssh server from home
[06:20] <yaaar> really!
[06:20] <mabus> from school I mean
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:20] <slackern> mabus: have you installed openssh-server?
[06:20] <yaaar> wow...that's a neat trick Dr_Willis where's the scoop
[06:20] <yaaar> oh...he beat me to it
[06:20] <slackern> mabus: it's not installed as default
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> thers other ways of doing that as well.  but i like that way
[06:20] <mabus> slackern: yes... and it's running on a non-standard port
[06:20] <Fiyawerx> how stable is it?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> i keep all my mp3's and stuff on a spare ext3 partition. now.
[06:21] <mabus> slackern: err... not openssh-server, but sshd... openssh-server is for windows right
[06:21] <bbrazil> mabus: ubuntu uses openssh
[06:21] <slackern> slackern@nova:~$ apt-cache search openssh-server | openssh-server - Secure shell server, an rshd replacement
[06:21] <mabus> Okay well either way, I have it set up properly.
[06:21] <bbrazil> mabus: I'm guessing a firewall
[06:22] <mabus> I just can't login from school, even though it's on a non stanard port. How could I fix this?
[06:22] <slackern> mabus: only thing i can think of then is portforwarding problems, or your school is blocking it somehow.
[06:22] <mabus> It's on port 32337
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Egads! not port 32337!
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:22] <bbrazil> mabus: put it on 443 or 80, that's probably open
[06:23] <slackern> mabus: did you change the port in the sshd settings?
[06:23] <slackern> or just forward port 32337 to 22 ?
[06:23] <mabus> can I put it on 23? I can connect to ftp sessions
[06:23] <slackern> 21 is ftp
[06:23] <mabus> yeah... I have it working
[06:23] <mabus> not the problem
[06:23] <mabus> the sshd itself
[06:25] <slackern> mabus: hmm, i could try connecting to it from here if you want and see if i get a response
[06:25] <Ademan> xmms keeps complaining about "not being able to capture the sound device" or something along those lines.  It will play if i persistently press the play button (it seems to be competing with GAIM for the sound card... but why the heck would only one app be able to have it... shouldnt multiple be able to have it?
[06:26] <bbrazil> Ademan: depends on the soundcard and driver
[06:26] <Ademan> bbrazil: under windows i had no problem with multiple apps using the sound card
[06:26] <Ademan> is this a config problem then?
[06:26] <Ademan> wrong driver maybe?
[06:27] <bbrazil> Ademan: no, the chances are your card can only handle one channel at a time. If you use something like esd it'll mix them aiui
[06:27] <mabus> slackern: That's not it... I can connect to it fine, it's the school. I just don't know what i can do other than putting it on a non standard port. And now, with it on port 21, it's just a blinking cursor when I try to connect to localhost
[06:28] <mabus> (and specify the port as 21)
[06:28] <bbrazil> mabus: possibly a trasnsparent ftp proxy
[06:28] <Ademan> bbrazil: one channel? really?... i'm pretty sure my sound blaster 16 from 1992 had more than one channel...
[06:28] <Flannel> it did!
[06:29] <bbrazil> Ademan: I haven't looked into it a lot
[06:29] <nseltzer> Hey all
[06:29] <Ademan> although it is pretty possible that all the mixing WAS done in software (for my current card)
[06:29] <nseltzer> I have a question about my initial ubuntu install if anyone is interested in trying to help out
[06:29] <Ademan> nseltzer: dont ask to ask, just ask, and we'll all try to answer
[06:29] <nseltzer> k, thanks
[06:30] <bbrazil> Ademan: but anyway, artsd or esd should be able to solve the problem
[06:30] <Ademan> alright thanks
[06:30] <Ademan> could i get either through synaptic?
[06:30] <nseltzer> I just resized my partition and installed ubuntu on the new partition with a swap partition; all in all a generic install, but when I go to boot to it.
[06:30] <BHSPitMonkey> ugh
[06:31] <nseltzer> I get an error about a video device not being configured correctly and then it goes blank
[06:31] <nseltzer> any suggestions?
[06:31] <Ademan> do you have text input?
[06:31] <Ademan> ie a console?
[06:31] <nseltzer> no
[06:31] <nseltzer> blank
[06:31] <nseltzer> nothing
[06:31] <Ademan> nothing?
[06:31] <Ademan> alright
[06:31] <Ademan> do you use lilo?
[06:31] <nseltzer> grub
[06:31] <BHSPitMonkey> ok, I'm new to ubuntu... what's the deal with root passwords?
[06:31] <bbrazil> !rootsudo
[06:31] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:31] <Ademan> k do you know how to get to the boot menu?
[06:31] <BHSPitMonkey> ouch
[06:31] <BHSPitMonkey> that messes me up...
[06:32] <bbrazil> BHSPitMonkey: read that link
[06:32] <nseltzer> Could you tell me how?
[06:32] <Ademan> hold on, i'll try myself, i think you hit escape as its starting up
[06:32] <Ademan> (grub)
[06:32] <nseltzer> ok, yeah I can get there, sorry
[06:32] <Ademan> its ok
[06:32] <paradizelost> hey, anyone rememmber what year it was that september only had like 14 days in it? like back in the 13-1500's??/
[06:33] <Ademan> you want your command line to be something like "linux init=/bin/bash"
[06:33] <bbrazil> paradizelost: pope gregory's 10 days? Varies by country.
[06:33] <jepes> how to make a boot floppy for ubuntu? i want it to boot my ubuntu from windowsXp's boot menu...
[06:33] <nseltzer> It load ubuntu
[06:33] <paradizelost> on linux cal
[06:33] <nseltzer> err loads
[06:33] <nseltzer> it comes up, I get past the loading of all of the packages
[06:34] <nseltzer> but at that point when it goes to load the GUI it blanks out after flashing something about the video adapter
[06:34] <nseltzer> meh
[06:34] <Flannel> nseltzer: ctrl-alt-f1, does it get you to a text prompt?
[06:34] <specialbuddy> when I use my usb hard drive it works fine but I wanted to set up my fstab so that it will recognize them as certain folders
[06:34] <nseltzer> I'm on the pooter on my XP partition
[06:35] <Ademan> nseltzer: with the boot options i gave you? it shouldnt even try to load the gui
[06:35] <specialbuddy> how do I do this because it won't let me look at the ntfs drives
[06:35] <paradizelost> whihc year usa?
[06:35] <specialbuddy> how do I do this because it won't let me look at the ntfs drives
[06:35] <Flannel> specialbuddy: do what?
[06:35] <paradizelost> nm.  found it
[06:35] <nseltzer> ademanI'll try that, but I'll have to get back to you on that.
[06:35] <Ademan> ok
[06:35] <Ademan> good luck
[06:35] <nseltzer> Thanks
[06:35] <Ademan> and just fyi
[06:36] <specialbuddy> well I plug it in and it works fine but I want it so that when it's plugged in it will always be a certain drive
[06:36] <Ademan> it MIGHT be "kernel init=/bin/bash"
[06:36] <Ademan> try both if the first doesnt work
[06:36] <Ademan> it will boot you into the bash console
[06:36] <Ademan> ie no GUI
[06:36] <Ademan> from there
[06:36] <specialbuddy> so I set it up in the fstab but now it comes up and won't let me look at any of the files in the ntfs drive
[06:36] <nseltzer> okies
[06:36] <Ademan> you'll want to...
[06:37] <Ademan> dpkg-reconfigure Xorg   i believe
[06:37] <nseltzer> you'd know better than I would
[06:37] <nseltzer> What does that do?
[06:37] <Flannel> specialbuddy: will it let you as root?
[06:37] <zcat[1] > Ademan: there's no package Xorg ?
[06:37] <Ademan> it should have you reconfigure X.org (your GUI)
[06:37] <Ademan> zcat[1] : oh i forgot the package name then
[06:37] <zcat[1] > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:38] <specialbuddy> Flannel, yes
[06:38] <Ademan> there we go
[06:38] <Ademan> nseltzer: what zcat[1]  said
[06:38] <nseltzer> sweet!
[06:38] <nseltzer> thanks!
[06:38] <Ademan> np, good luck
[06:38] <BHSPitMonkey> hey, um, where should I go to get wine?
[06:38] <nseltzer> I will definately have to come back when I can't figure this out.
[06:38] <Ademan> if it doesnt boot to the bash console come back
[06:38] <nseltzer> k
[06:38] <Flannel> BHSPitMonkey: the repositories.  universe I believe.
[06:38] <nseltzer> thx
[06:38] <Ademan> np
[06:38] <BHSPitMonkey> Flannel, it's not showing up in any...
[06:39] <zcat[1] > Oh well.. my test machine is officially screwed.. I was worried that it kept crashing in Dapper.. but it's not a dapper problem. It won't even boot windows any more.
[06:39] <Ademan> zcat[1] : since you seem knowledgable (sp) booting into the bash console with grub is "kernel init=/bin/bash" or "linux init=/bin/bash" or none of the above?
[06:39] <Flannel> BHSPitMonkey: there's a package called "wine", it's in the repositories.  in universe.
[06:40] <mickel> halloo
[06:40] <zcat[1] > Ademan: add init=/bin/bash to whatever kernel options you already have .. if it's grub, 'e' to edit abd 'b' to boot. For lilo press tab to see what kernels there are
[06:41] <Ademan> zcat[1] : crap, well i royally screwed him then
[06:41] <Flannel> specialbuddy: this page has a think about permissions, 3/5s of the way down : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:41] <Ademan> he's not gonna make it past grub
[06:41] <mickel> huhuuu!! kennt jemand von euch ein gutes downloadprogramm fr ubuntu??
[06:41] <specialbuddy> thanks Flannel
[06:41] <Flannel> !de
[06:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[06:42] <BHSPitMonkey> Flannel, perhaps this is affecting my search: "W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[06:42] <BHSPitMonkey> "
[06:42] <motoko> Hello
[06:42] <Ademan> VSFTPD > wu_ftp ?
[06:42] <motoko> what do I run to reconfigure my video settings?
[06:42] <Flannel> BHSPitMonkey: looks like you've got the same line in your sources.list twice.
[06:42] <zcat[1] > BHSPitLappy: fastest way of fixing that; build a cleen sources.list using source-o-matic
[06:43] <Ademan> apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:43] <Ademan> ?
[06:43] <eggzeck> no
[06:43] <zcat[1] > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:43] <Ademan> motoko: what exactly do you want to reconfigure?
[06:43] <Flannel> mickel: download program for what?
[06:43] <eggzeck> dpkg-reconfigure
[06:43] <Ademan> and eggzeck is right, i goofed again lol
[06:43] <Ademan> zcat[1]  too
[06:43] <mickel> a downloadprogramm for ubuntu, i have ubuntu and i will sound and films downloaden
[06:44] <Ademan> mickel: aMule
[06:44] <specialbuddy> I figured it out flannel
[06:44] <specialbuddy> thanks
[06:44] <motoko> Ademan: I just installed Ubuntu and X is failing. It's because I have a Radeon X1300 which isn't supported by the ATI driver yet but it's trying to use it.
[06:44] <mickel> is that a freewareprogramm??
[06:44] <Flannel> it's in the repositories
[06:44] <Ademan> then in the terminal type what zcat[1]  said
[06:44] <Ademan> mickel: yes its open source too if i'm not mistaken
[06:45] <eggzeck> !frostwire
[06:45] <Flannel> it is.  It has to be, to be included in the repositories.
[06:45] <mickel> okay
[06:45] <mickel> thx
[06:45] <jepes> how to make a boot floppy for ubuntu? i want it to boot my ubuntu from windowsXp's boot menu...
[06:45] <Ademan> Flannel: really? what about multiverse and universe? do they have to be?
[06:45] <eggzeck> ubotu tell mickel about frostwire
[06:45] <zcat[1] > oh well, I'm going to inflict dapper on my family now :)
[06:45] <motoko> thank you
[06:47] <zcat[1] > Cairo's been using it already. I think it's stable enough. I'm not waiting three more weeks :)
[06:47] <eggzeck> zcat[1] , haha, you're so impatient that I feel like upgrading too
[06:47] <eggzeck> But I can't :)
[06:48] <zcat[1] > funny thing, Cairo (my 8yo) loves Compiz. Compiz uses cairo (the graphich library)
[06:48] <morphix> how do i set up SWAT ?
[06:48] <zcat[1] > sorry 9yo..
[06:49] <motoko> Any recommendations on which driver I should select?
[06:49] <eggzeck> morphix, is that the samba admin tool thing?
[06:49] <morphix> yeh
[06:49] <morphix> i installed it using apt-get install
[06:49] <morphix> but it doesnt auto load.. nor does it seem to have a init.d script
[06:49] <zcat[1] > It's web based. http://localhost:9001 or something..
[06:49] <morphix> i know..
[06:50] <morphix> its http://localhost:901 btw
[06:50] <eggzeck> I'm not sure about that one sorry
[06:50] <morphix> there is no init.d script
[06:50] <jmoncayo> after i remove ubuntu from my box how can i erase the grub loader? it keeps showing menu
[06:50] <zcat[1] > weird.. ok.
[06:50] <zcat[1] > jmoncayo: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[06:50] <morphix> jmoncayo: you dual booting with XP ??
[06:51] <dli> zcat[1] , hehe
[06:51] <zithowa> if I want to back up my whole system, what do I have to do?
[06:51] <zcat[1] > This will of course kill XP since you'll have no bootloader.
[06:51] <jmoncayo> morphix, yew with win me
[06:51] <morphix> oh winme
[06:51] <morphix> i'm not sure with Win Me
[06:51] <dli> zithowa, what program for backing up?
[06:51] <zcat[1] > But since XP always kills linux when you install it, that seems like fair play to me
[06:52] <jepes> zcat : there a trick in windowsXp to boot an floppy directly
[06:52] <morphix> u need to fix the mbr (which will delete GRUB and use windows mbr)
[06:52] <zcat[1] > For WinME boot from the install floppy and type "fdisk /mbr"
[06:52] <jmoncayo> morphix, how can i do that with win xp?
[06:52] <dli> jmoncayo, it's nothing of my business, but winme sucks a lot, try to change
[06:52] <zithowa> dli: sure, if I need one.  I have a blank hard drive I want to transfer my current install to
[06:52] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm confused...
[06:52] <morphix> jmoncayo: just use the win xp cd.. go to recovery console and type, fixmbr
[06:53] <jmoncayo> dli,  i know it sucks but i have an old computer and win 98 gave me errors that box is for my sister to play
[06:53] <morphix> and thats it
[06:53] <Flannel> Ademan: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components/
[06:53] <zithowa> it seems like I could just copy root, but that wouldn't take care of the file system
[06:53] <dli> zithowa, "cp -a" can do it, but don't cp /dev /proc /sys
[06:53] <jmoncayo> oki
[06:53] <Eleaf> goodnight
[06:53] <zithowa> dli: will that copy boot records and all, too?
[06:53] <morphix> how do i set up SWAT, i have installed it using apt-get install, but it has no init.d script so i cant run it, any help??
[06:54] <BHSPitMonkey> was I not supposed to put the source-o-matic contents into /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:54] <dli> zithowa, "ls /", get the list, and use "cp -a" to cp them, of course, rsync can use --exclude=
[06:54] <zithowa> dli: thanks :)
[06:54] <zcat[1] > the best way to backup is copy the filesystem with cp -a or tar or rsync, and use grub-install from a live cd to rebuild grub..
[06:54] <mickel> kann jemand von euch gut deutsch??
[06:55] <tritium> !de
[06:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[06:55] <Flannel> mickel: ja, aber deutsch sprache im #ubuntu-de
[06:55] <zcat[1] > If you try to do an exact image, you limit your recovery options to the same type and size of drive
[06:55] <dli> zithowa, no :( but boot loader can be easily installed
[06:55] <mickel> wie kome ich dort drauf??
[06:56] <victori> what is the unstable branch for ubuntu?
[06:56] <victori> dapper?
[06:56] <zcat[1] > !dapper
[06:56] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:56] <victori> !unstable
[06:56] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, victori
[06:56] <victori> I am coming from debian, so I was always using unstable.
[06:57] <zcat[1] > dapper is the next release. I'm unstable.
[06:57] <victori> I don't mind breakage since I know how to fix stuff my self.
[06:57] <harisund> Is there like a talk page for the ubuntu wiki? I want to make an edit regarding the SSH page (Basically I want to mention about creating config files)
[06:58] <adammichaelroach> is there a program out there that will check an mp3 collection for incomplete albums/songs
[06:58] <johntramp> hey if i have signed up for shipit before, will they automatically send me the new version when it is released or do i need to order again?
[06:59] <zcat[1] > i had to order again for breezy..
[06:59] <eggzeck> I think you'll need to order again
[06:59] <johntramp> adammichaelroach, i have been using picard
[06:59] <johntramp> ok
[06:59] <r0xoR> does ubuntu have a firewall installed and enabled as per the default install of Breezy?
[06:59] <eggzeck> es, iptables
[06:59] <zcat[1] > i waited three months too before I figured out I probably had to reorder :(
[06:59] <eggzeck> r0bby, iptables
[06:59] <eggzeck> damn tab
[07:00] <eggzeck> r0xoR, iptables
[07:00] <r0xoR> k, and how would i go about shutting it off?
[07:00] <eggzeck> r0bby, it doesn't filter anything by default
[07:00] <eggzeck> r0xoR, *
[07:00] <dli> zcat[1] , why couldn't you just download?
[07:00] <r0xoR> k
[07:00] <zcat[1] > I already had, and picked up a few CD's from wlug..
[07:01] <eggzeck> r0xoR, iptables is advanced, and will only filter that which you tell it too
[07:01] <zcat[1] > but I like having a big stack to pass out at meetings
[07:01] <adammichaelroach> johntramp, could you point me to a site for picard?
[07:02] <Flannel> r0xoR: chances are you won't need a firewall though.  Ubuntu has nothing listening for a default install, so you can install it afterwards, without any worries.
[07:02] <Flannel> r0xoR: and there are a few 'firewalls' like the ones youre familiar with available.
[07:02] <yuan> is there any rules ??
[07:02] <Flannel> yuan: rules for what?
[07:02] <r0xoR> !rules
[07:02] <ubotu> You are invited to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:06] <eXcentra> Is there any way to detect my networking card? because it's not detecting it during boot up (along with my sound card, etc) and isn't listed in the Networking menu. (technically, this is a dapper problem but I figured that I could get some fundamental answers here)
[07:06] <zcat[1] > what chipset?
[07:06] <zcat[1] > lshw or lspci..
[07:07] <eXcentra> :?
[07:07] <eXcentra> sorry, i'm not too knowledgable about this stuff, especially networking..
[07:07] <zcat[1] > open a terminal and type lspci, look for the network card and it'll tell you what it is.
[07:07] <cge> eXcentra: or post it in #flood
[07:08] <eXcentra> :/
[07:08] <cge> eXcentra: ?
[07:08] <yuan> how can i set my ubuntu boot up without  adjust time on line??
[07:08] <Ademan> tried to compile (through make) esd... and it came up with a problem with RTLD_NEXT not being defined... a little googling seemed to suggest this was gcc's fault?
[07:09] <animepunkw> Hi I need some help , I'm trying to compile MPlayer from source when i do ./configure --enable-gui --enable-largefiles --enable-menu --prefix=/usr --confdir=/etc/mplayer
[07:09] <animepunkw>    i get an error Error: X11 support required for GUI compilation.  help me plz , i'm a noob with linux :(
[07:09] <dli> animepunkw, I think you need libxt-dev
[07:09] <Flannel> animepunkw: any reason youre compiling?
[07:09] <cge> animepunkw: use apt-get build-dep mplayer
[07:09] <dli> animepunkw, and libX11-dev
[07:10] <cge> animepunkw: apt-get build-dep mplayer will install all of these things for you.
[07:10] <animepunkw> yeah i used that , but the got an error with the skin and couldn't play .mkv files
[07:10] <cge> animepunkw: build-dep, not install. build-dep installs the dev packages needed to build the package from source.
[07:10] <dli> animepunkw, you can get the skin from mplayerhq.hu, and read docs there for .mkv
[07:11] <eXcentra> zcat[1] : i'm on windows right now so i can't do the terminal stuff but it's a Broadcom 440x 10/100 integrated controller
[07:11] <bbrazil> Ademan: why don't you just use the ubuntu package?
[07:12] <yuan> hi i need help  when my ubuntu boot up it always check time on the server , how can i configure it to make ubuntu boot up without checking time
[07:12] <dli> eXcentra, b44 NIC card is support in kernel
[07:12] <animepunkw> K thanks every one , I'm gonna keep pluging away at this , this distro is rockin ^^
[07:12] <dli> yuan, rc-update.d -f ntpdate remove
[07:13] <yuan> wow  thx
[07:13] <bbrazil> yuan: actually, that'll be undone the next time it's upgraded
[07:13] <dli> animepunkw, building your own mplayer is recommended by mplayerhq.hu, and try totem also
[07:13] <zcat[1] > 1425 upgraded, 183 newly installed, 57 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[07:13] <zcat[1] > Need to get 1190MB of archives.
[07:14] <unfo> totem rocks.
[07:14] <zcat[1] > Hmmmm this might take a while :)
[07:14] <cge> zcat[1] : that's when you wish you had a complete mirror on your LAN.
[07:14] <dli> zcat[1] , that's a huge installation
[07:14] <zcat[1] > I have gnome and kde on the box..
[07:14] <animepunkw> Yeah i use Totem for most files so far . I also figure if i build my own MPlayer i'll learn more about whats going on
[07:15] <dli> zcat[1] , I have gnome kde openoffice
[07:15] <BHSPitMonkey> how can one enable the root account
[07:15] <zcat[1] > I might get rid of kde and just stick with gnome..
[07:15] <Flannel> !tell BHSPitMonkey about root
[07:15] <cge> BHSPitMonkey: sudo passwd
[07:15] <dli> animepunkw, read docs at mplayerhq.hu
[07:15] <BHSPitMonkey> thanks
[07:16] <UUT> hi, guys, i'm ubuntu new comer, i try to install ubuntu but i've problem the video mode, i can't choose video mode, when system booting the monitor blank because the video mode not support, please guide me to overcome this problem
[07:17] <dli> UUT, can you Ctl-Alt-F1
[07:17] <cge> UUT: try pressing Ctrl-Alt-Numpad + or Numpad -
[07:17] <cge> UUT: I assume you are talking about the livecd?
[07:17] <yuan> dli , i try to use rc-update in my bash , but it says "bash: rc-update.d: command not found
[07:17] <yuan> "
[07:17] <UUT> no, i use install cd
[07:18] <dli> yuan, update-rc.d
[07:18] <dli> yuan, just in case, you should run it in sudo
[07:18] <yuan> dli , thx alot
[07:18] <yuan> i use the root account
[07:19] <cge> Why does RootSudo on the wiki say never to use sudo for X based programs? I've used it that way for years, and have never had a problem.
[07:19] <dli> yuan, also have a look at /etc/default/ntpdate , maybe, you don't have to disable it
[07:19] <slackern> cge: Well you can drive a car a lifetime without a seatbelt too
[07:20] <cge> slackern: yes, but what is the problem. Why would doing so change ownership of .ICEauthority?
[07:20] <Flannel> cge: because gksudo is safer
[07:20] <dli> cge, I installed sux
[07:21] <slackern> cge: sorry you lost me, you where talking about that you used it for years and never had a problem?
[07:22] <UUT> ok, thanks for the help
[07:22] <bharath> In breezy and dapper, gnome-keyring-manager does not allow me to add/edit keys. But it can read the old ones stored with FC4's gnome-keyring-manager.
[07:22] <bharath> Is revelation a replacement to gnome-keyring-manager ??
[07:22] <slackern> cge: been up all night here so a bit mushy in the brain right now, can't really see what that has to do with overship on .ICEauthority?
[07:23] <cge> slackern: The wiki seems to imply that doing so changes the ownership of .ICEauthority to root.root.
[07:24] <Madpilot> cge, it can and it does - did it to me just after I started using Ubuntu last year... :|
[07:24] <cge> Madpilot: hmmm... I ask because it sounds like a bug.
[07:24] <slackern> cge: Oh hehe
[07:25] <yuan> dli ,   i just have another question , how can i list all the things that system init ?
[07:25] <dli> yuan, "ls -l /etc/rc2.d/"
[07:25] <Madpilot> cge, it's a bug, for sure
[07:25] <cge> Madpilot: do you remember what program you were trying to run? I would rather not install kwifimanager.
[07:25] <dli> yuan, maybe, ubuntu uses runlevel3 by default
[07:26] <Madpilot> cge, can't remember, sorry
[07:26] <yuan> dli, so thx , i have a try
[07:27] <cge> Madpilot: was it a kde-based program?
[07:28] <Madpilot> cge, it might have been k3b - I can't really remember, though
[07:28] <cge> Madpilot: that is probably it, thanks.
[07:28] <slackern> cge: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/17635/ it seems to be a bug in several distros too
[07:29] <nseltzer> ademan
[07:29] <nseltzer> I am back :P
[07:30] <nseltzer> I went and entered the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" command and was told that I needed to be root
[07:30] <cge> nseltzer: use sudo dpkg-reconf...
[07:30] <nseltzer> thanks... did I mention that i am slightly new at this? :P
[07:32] <victori> hmm which distro would you say has more packages debian or ubuntu?
[07:32] <cge> victori: debian
[07:32] <victori> still debian?
[07:32] <victori> interesting.
[07:33] <mustard5> victori, debian
[07:33] <victori> thanks
[07:33] <victori> any possible way to confirm it?
[07:33] <cge> victori: Though they are actually pretty much the same due to universe, debian has better support for packages outside of ubuntu's main.
[07:33] <victori> and ubuntu has i686 packages correct?
[07:33] <cge> victori: I don't think so
[07:34] <victori> I am a long time debian user , which migrated to gentoo for the top notch amd64 support, however I am looking into ubuntu
[07:34] <dli> victori, I think gentoo has more packages
[07:34] <cge> dli, gentoo cheats
[07:34] <victori> how so?
[07:35] <dli> victori, because many packages couldn't be in debian due to debian's free software standard, not even in debian non-free
[07:35] <victori> that is why there is apt-get.org ;-)
[07:35] <cge> victori: because of source vs. binary packages
[07:36] <Ademan> bbrazil: heh, well i couldn't find the ubuntu package in synaptic... maybe i'm missing a repos?
[07:36] <victori> thanks for the insight.
[07:36] <cge> victori: and downloading sources directly instead of hosting packages containing the source.
[07:36] <dli> victori, that's pointless, you can only compile official releases
[07:37] <mustard5> Ademan, which package you after?
[07:37] <Ademan> esd
[07:37] <cge> Ademan: esound
[07:38] <cge> Ademan: esd isn't the actual name of the program.
[07:38] <jmoncayo> have somebody used vncviewer?
[07:38] <cge> jmoncayo: yes
[07:38] <Ademan> cge: oh... well iirc that package was installed
[07:41] <Ademan> it was installed
[07:42] <jmoncayo> cge, does it support protocol 4?
[07:42] <Ademan> and i'm still having major problems with xmms complaining that my sound card is blocked
[07:42] <LuisFer> I HAVE PROBLEMS IS PARTITIONING
[07:42] <LuisFer> EXT2 EXT3
[07:42] <LuisFer> SWAPS?
[07:42] <cge> jmoncayo: I think there is a vncviewer4
[07:42] <Ademan> turn off capslock
[07:42] <LuisFer> SOMEONE CAN HELPME?
[07:42] <LuisFer> ok
[07:42] <mustard5> LuisFer, try turning your Caps lock off please :)
[07:42] <Ademan> ok
[07:42] <Ademan> now that we've done that
[07:43] <Ademan> you know ubuntu can automatically partition your computer right?
[07:43] <jmoncayo> cge, i only need to type vncviewer4 ip.ip.ip.ip?
[07:43] <cge> jmoncayo: At least, there was on debian. Let me look
[07:43] <LuisFer> yes but i have problems
[07:43] <mustard5> LuisFer, are you installing for the first time?
[07:43] <LuisFer> i have installed befor ubuntu
[07:43] <cge> jmoncayo: Hmm...
[07:43] <LuisFer> is the 2nd
[07:43] <Ademan> anyways, SWAP is a partition that linux uses like windows uses virtual memory, its hard drive space it pages to (iirc)
[07:44] <LuisFer> but i have problems i use Norton Partition Magic
[07:44] <LuisFer> give me errors
[07:44] <cge> jmoncayo: Ah - you need to install xvnc4viewer.
[07:44] <LuisFer> in installing
[07:44] <Ademan> EXT2 EXT3 are just types of file systems, EXT3 is newer and i guess "better" so you could use that for your ubuntu partition
[07:45] <mustard5> LuisFer, Parition Magic gave you errors?
[07:45] <Ademan> LuisFer: try and type on less lines too, and just out with it, whats the error? what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:45] <zcat[1] > ext3 is ext2 with journalling..
[07:45] <LuisFer> so i have to do an EXT2
[07:45] <LuisFer> no ubuntu installer
[07:45] <jmoncayo> cge, xvncviewer4? is it different than vncvierwer4?
[07:45] <mustard5> LuisFer, or the Ubuntu installer gave you errors, after paritioning?
[07:45] <cge> jmoncayo: It turns out there isn't a vncviewer4 package.
[07:45] <Ademan> zcat[1] : i did not know... anywho, what exactly IS journaling? i know xfs supports it but i havent a clue what it actually means
[07:46] <Madpilot> LuisFer, Ubuntu's installer has a partitioner in it, you know
[07:46] <mustard5> LuisFer, so what was the error message?
[07:46] <jmoncayo> cge, oki thanks i thought there was something like vncviewer for test mode =)
[07:46] <LuisFer> is in spanish
[07:46] <cge> jmoncayo: what do you mean?
[07:46] <LuisFer> ill try to translate
[07:46] <LuisFer> cannot install packs
[07:46] <cge> jmoncayo: It is just the package naming - xvnc4viewer is the package you want
[07:46] <zcat[1] > the kernel writes to disk what it's about to do, then does it.. if the computer crashes anywhere in the process there's a record of what it was doing in case things get corrupted.. something like that.
[07:47] <Madpilot> LuisFer, there's a #ubuntu-es channel too, if you want Spanish speakers
[07:47] <LuisFer> thanks english is ok
[07:47] <cge> jmoncayo: The package used to be named vnc4viewer, but apparently the name changed.
[07:48] <Ademan> zcat[1] : i knew so little about file systems i assumed that was done anyways haha... seems like a pretty valuable feature for detecting corruption
[07:48] <jmoncayo> cge, well if i want to connect to another box i need to type xvncviewer4 ip.ip.ip.ip ??
[07:49] <cge> jmoncayo: xvnc4viwer ip.ip.ip.ip, or just run xvnc4viewer and it will ask you for the ip.
[07:49] <mustard5> LuisFer, so how does that error relate to partitioning?
[07:49] <jmoncayo> cge, oki thanks a lot
[07:49] <cge> jmoncayo: you're welcome
[07:50] <Ademan> anyone in here ever have trouble with hw_random?
[07:51] <nseltzer> Once I get in to the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" what do I do?
[07:51] <mustard5> LuisFer, did you tell the Ubuntu install disk partitioner to format the new partitions you created?
[07:51] <Ademan> it should give you a bunch of options and dialogs
[07:51] <nseltzer> Yes
[07:51] <Ademan> to configure your xserver to work with your card
[07:51] <Ademan> it generally is good at autodetecting everything
[07:51] <orbin> nseltzer: why are you running it in the 1st place?
[07:52] <Ademan> orbin: his Xorg is broken
[07:52] <nseltzer> my xorg is uber ripped :P
[07:52] <orbin> broken how?
[07:52] <Ademan> kills his system?
[07:52] <mustard5> nseltzer, for the most part you choose the default options until you get to the thing you want to change
[07:52] <Ademan> lol
[07:52] <nseltzer> I'm going to try switching over to the nVidia card to see if it autodetects
[07:52] <nseltzer> THe onboard intel didn't detect
[07:52] <basilio> hi all how can i install some software in apt-cache =?
[07:53] <roy-s> hi
[07:53] <nseltzer> hi
[07:53] <Ademan> anyone familiar with the vsftpd?
[07:53] <jmoncayo> i added an alias to /root/.bashrc but when i use sudo <alias> it says command not found why?
[07:53] <mustard5> nseltzer, it might be better to choose 'vesa' for troubleshooting
[07:53] <basilio> i want to install gtkpod
[07:53] <Ademan> vesa will NOT crash on you.. like 99%, unless the problem is elsewhere
[07:54] <nseltzer> ok
[07:54] <basilio> wish is listed in the apt-cache im a newbie
[07:54] <Ademan> vesa is essentially a set of interrupts that are virtually guaranteed to be present in ANY video BIOS set
[07:54] <jmoncayo> cge, hey dude i have a porblem with the vnc4viewer, it gives me an error when trying to connect
[07:54] <Ademan> damn hes gone
[07:55] <Ademan> actually i think vesa is the name of the standards committee anyways...
[07:55] <jmoncayo> cge, can you help me?
[07:55] <Ademan> yep
[07:56] <orbin> basilio: gtkpod is in what's called the universe repository.  you might be more comfy in a gui environment:
[07:56] <orbin> ubotu: tell basilio about synaptic
[07:56] <Ademan> "Video Electronics Standards Association"
[07:56] <orbin> ubotu: tell basilio about repos
[07:56] <orbin> basilio: read those links ubotu sent you
[07:56] <mustard5> Ademan, an interesting bit of trivia :)
[07:56] <Ademan> hehe
[07:56] <pschulz01> exit
[07:57] <zengpu> exit
[07:57] <cge> jmoncayo: sorry
[07:57] <Ademan> at one point i was writing my own OS
[07:57] <cge> jmoncayo: I was in #wikipedia and didn't notice you
[07:57] <cge> jmoncayo: what is the error?
[07:57] <Ademan> then i found out that all the features that i thought were so awesome were in linux
[07:57] <Ademan> and i can't code better than torvalds and friends
[07:57] <jmoncayo> cge, can i send it to you in private message it is like 5 lines long i it will boder if i paste it here
[07:58] <cge> jmoncayo: #flood
[07:58] <jmoncayo> cge, oki there it goes
[07:58] <orbin> Ademan: write your own OS?  eep.
[07:58] <cge> orbin: everyone should try it!
[07:59] <orbin> cge: i'd probably blow up my computer :)
[07:59] <Ademan> orbin: hahah it was horrifficbut it was great cause it got me to study a lot of the theory
[07:59] <cge> orbin: I saw one recently that was written entirely in Haskell :)
[07:59] <firebird619> In Synaptic, what causes it to say, for example,  Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.6-6) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu12.5.10.1 is to be installed?
[07:59] <Ademan> orbin: my awesome OS was just a bootsector that printed out its name by the time i figured out i wasnt gonna make the best OS since sliced bread
[07:59] <cge> jmoncayo: Hmmm... what are you trying to connect to?
[08:00] <orbin> Ademan: lol.  that's further than i'd ever get
[08:00] <jmoncayo> cge, i am trying to conect to realvnc enterprise edition
[08:00] <cge> Ademan: I need to try writing an OS. It sounds like fun.
[08:00] <Ademan> lets just say i hate assembly
[08:00] <cge> jmoncayo: Hmm... I'm not sure then.
[08:00] <Ademan> assembly is too much for me
[08:00] <Ademan> well
[08:00] <Ademan> its not bad
[08:00] <Ademan> but i originally "knew" (and i mean "used for a month or two") MASM
[08:01] <Ademan> which has opposite syntax of tasm
[08:01] <pvd2006> is there a way to unrar .rar files in linux?
[08:01] <nseltzer> w00t
[08:01] <nseltzer> this is from x-chat
[08:01] <jmoncayo> cge, do you know any vnc server for windows?
[08:01] <Ademan> which i was told to use for assembling executables with no external dependancies
[08:01] <jmoncayo> cge, that you know it work with vncviewer or vnc4viewer?
[08:01] <Madpilot> pvd2006, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:01] <cge> jmoncayo: Yes, let me think
[08:01] <Ademan> and then someone suggested nasm, similar syntax to masm again
[08:01] <Ademan> yay
[08:02] <cge> jmoncayo: You could use tightvnc.
[08:02] <nseltzer> Could I get a good website to go to, that will tell me what I can do now :P
[08:02] <nseltzer> and how to do it.
[08:02] <nseltzer> Like installing applications and whatnot
[08:02] <specialbuddy> !lamp
[08:02] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:03] <orbin> ubotu: tell nseltzer about synaptic
[08:03] <Ademan> nseltzer: applications->Add Applications   shoudl have a lot of the basic programs you want
[08:03] <Ademan> System->Administration->Synaptic package manager should have the rest
[08:03] <jmoncayo> cge, where can i download it
[08:04] <Ademan> and if you ABSOLUTELY need to, you can get *.tar.gz and *.deb off the net and install them command line
[08:04] <cge> jmoncayo: tightvnc.org?
[08:05] <Ademan> anyone ever mucked around with hw_random?
[08:05] <cge> Ademan: In my experience, you probably won't get a response to such a technical question here.
[08:06] <WarOfAttrition> ok then how about: how do you create a debian package when compiling something?
[08:07] <Ademan> cge: dang, well all i know is its a module, and its an interface to a hardware random number generator, and not only that, but on intel boards, the hardware random number generator isnt present (laptop boards that is) and its impossible to detect if they're present or not
[08:08] <cge> Ademan: Bizarre
[08:08] <Introvert> Ademan: I disable mine in my kernel. Why do you need a hardware random number generator?
[08:08] <Ademan> cge: yep, so my only hope is to ensure linux doesnt try to load the module in the first place
[08:08] <orbin> ubotu: tell WarOfAttrition about checkinstall
[08:09] <cge> Ademan: I get no such device on my Dell D600 when trying to load it.
[08:09] <Ademan> Introvert: how? and i definitely don't think its necessary, i know for a fact there are software ones
[08:09] <nseltzer> hmm... how do I go about installing my wireless card on my computer? :P
[08:09] <Ademan> cge: laptop?
[08:09] <nseltzer> yes
[08:09] <Introvert> Ademan: I get the kernel source, and use menuconfig or edit .config ;/
[08:09] <Introvert> Then use GCC to compile it
[08:10] <cge> Ademan: yes, and Intel too.
[08:10] <Introvert> It probably shouldn't load it unless you modprobe it
[08:10] <orbin> ubotu: tell nseltzer about wireless
[08:10] <Ademan> Introvert: hehe, unfortunately i replaced my non-working ubuntu install with a non-working debian install and it couldnt detect my network card so it couldnt find a repository to install anything more than the core packages, so i dont even know if i have gcc
[08:11] <Introvert> GCC should be a core package in ANY system ;/
[08:11] <Introvert> gcc -v
[08:11] <orbin> build-essential is on the cd
[08:11] <Ademan> "-bash: gcc: command not found" hehe
[08:11] <Ademan> maybe i dont even have core packages
[08:12] <Ademan> all i know is i have bash
[08:12] <Ademan> and thats about it
[08:12] <Introvert> Ademan: I wasn't being literal.
[08:12] <Introvert> Ademan: I meant, if it's not in the core packages it should.
[08:12] <Ademan> oh haha
[08:12] <jmoncayo> cge, thanks buddy it work perfectly
[08:12] <Ademan> but i would expect it would be since you use it to build just about everything...
[08:12] <cge> Ademan: did you replace, or did you try to convert :)
[08:12] <cge> jmoncayo: You're quite welcome.
[08:12] <jmoncayo> cge, once i am done doing all i need how can i close the vnc session? just closing the window?
[08:12] <Ademan> cge: ubuntu-> debian? i formatted the partition first, so i replaced...
[08:13] <cge> jmoncayo: I believe so.
[08:13] <Introvert> Ademan: I warn you it's been a while since I've used a debian-based for personal use. I'm a bit of a FreeBSD/other source-based things person :/. I wouldn't worry about the random number generator.
[08:13] <cge> Ademan: Yes. I tried converting. Everything worked fine until I tried to reboot ...
[08:13] <jmoncayo> oki thanks again
[08:13] <Ademan> Introvert: i'm not worried, its just it brings down both ubuntu and debian at boot, the only way around it is booting into the bash console
[08:14] <medialdesign> hi everybody!  I got a question... i need some tools and i wanted to know if there is anything available
[08:14] <Introvert> Oh?.. Well then you'd probably want to grab a kernel source, compile it, stick it somewhere and configure GRUB/your bootloader to load it.
[08:14] <cge> medialdesign: Then please go ahead and ask.
[08:14] <Ademan> until i can figure out how to disable it permanently
[08:14] <cge> Ademan: blacklist
[08:15] <Ademan> cge: where is it?
[08:15] <Ademan> etc?
[08:15] <cge> Ademan: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[08:15] <medialdesign> I need to create my own configuration and I wanted to know if there is a 'quick' way (i know there is loadkeys, but maybe there is something easier ?) of creating our own key map
[08:15] <Ademan> cge: which reminds me, ubuntu used to hang on "initializing hotplug system"
[08:15] <Ademan> well the live cd
[08:15] <Ademan> and so did the knoppix live cd
[08:16] <Ademan> disabling pcmcia fixed that
[08:16] <cge> Ademan: It might be some weirdness with your system.
[08:16] <Ademan> cge: it seems to be a common laptop problem though
[08:16] <cge> Ademan: does your laptop not have pcmcia?
[08:17] <Ademan> it appears not
[08:17] <Ademan> lol
[08:17] <zcat[1] > might be a buggy chipset. file a bug!
[08:17] <cge> Ademan: Ah. That might explain the problem. I do have pcmcia in mine, and am in fact using it for my network right now, since my internal ethernet doesn't work.
[08:17] <Ademan> OMFG
[08:18] <Ademan> cge: thats why it cant detect my ethernet card
[08:18] <zcat[1] > if you don't have pcmcia, loading the drivers should do nothing.
[08:18] <cge> Ademan: Because you have a pcmcia network card?
[08:19] <Ademan> that would now make sense
[08:19] <fak3> whats up with the all the updates? just got prompted for like 62 updates!
[08:19] <Ademan> fak3: fresh instal?
[08:19] <SlicerDicer-> what is the 'mount /path/to/be/mounted /path/to/mountpoint -o' to allow for users to use it and have permissions?
[08:19] <zcat[1] > fak3: you think that's bad, I got prompted for about 1100
[08:19] <fak3> no but have not booted up for like 1-week
[08:19] <zcat[1] > 1425 upgraded, 183 newly installed, 57 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[08:19] <cge> SlicerDicer, err, it appears you have the arguments in the wrong order there.
[08:20] <zcat[1] > 1425 sorry..
[08:20] <SlicerDicer-> cge: how so?
[08:20] <zcat[1] > Need to get 1190MB of archives.
[08:20] <fak3> well that beats my numbers
[08:20] <SlicerDicer-> the damn thing mounts cge its just only accessable by root
[08:20] <iNiku> SlicerDicer-: mount /dev/device /mountpoint -o umask=000 if you want evryone to have read and write access
[08:20] <Ademan> so do you guys have any ideas for poor me? how do i still use pcmcia without killing my system? or more importantly have an ethernet card
[08:20] <cge> SlicerDicer: I've always used mount -o options mountdevice mountpoint
[08:20] <zcat[1] > my breezy box, running ubuntu + kubuntu + lots of other stuff.
[08:21] <cge> Ademan: have you looked on the wiki?
[08:21] <zcat[1] > soon it will be running dapper
[08:21] <Ademan> no, whats the wiki url?
[08:21] <SlicerDicer-> cge: mount -t davfs <server-url> <mountpoint> -o [options] 
[08:21] <SlicerDicer-> cge: thats the format :)
[08:21] <iNiku> cge: cge I think i works both ways
[08:21] <cge> iNiku: that is quite possible.
[08:21] <zcat[1] > .. or not running at all, depending how the upgrade goes :)
[08:21] <SlicerDicer-> iNiku: the umask=000 is not working
[08:21] <cge> Ademan: wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <cge> Ademan: there should be a page about laptops
[08:22] <Ademan> cge: cool thanks
[08:22] <zcat[1] > geek meeting to go to.. catch you all later
[08:22] <cge> Ademan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[08:22] <Ademan> x-chat, can i make it so tab does <uname>: rather than <uname>, ?
[08:23] <Ademan> and also, how the heck do i quit out of edlin? i probably mauled my blacklist file too
[08:23] <cge> Ademan: I have no idea. edlin?
[08:23] <cge> Ademan: Is that like ed, the ONE TRUE EDITOR?
[08:23] <Ademan> ed Filename (its a text editor)
[08:23] <paradizelost> Ademan: you are still using edlin?  welcome to the 21st century
[08:24] <Flannel> Ademan: I believe the completion delimiter has a configuration dohickey in the menu.
[08:24] <Ademan> paradizelost: i dont even have gcc on this install... cut me a break...
[08:24] <cge> paradizelost: But ed is the ONE TRUE EDITOR. Use of any other editor leads to perdition.
[08:24] <cge> Ademan: isn't it just q?
[08:24] <paradizelost> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:24] <Ademan> cge: dammit
[08:24] <Chousuke> cge: ?
[08:24] <Ademan> lol
[08:24] <SlicerDicer-> iNiku: the problem is I can only access the mountpoint with sudo I cannot access it with user so its kind of a total pain in the ass heh
[08:24] <paradizelost> but what about vi?!
[08:24] <paradizelost> or EMACS?
[08:25] <firebird619> Ademan: in x-chat go to Settings, Preferences, Input Box, Nick Completion Suffix.
[08:25] <Ademan> whee... vi works
[08:25] <cge> Chousuke: yes?
[08:25] <SlicerDicer-> iNiku: so what I am trying to figure out is how to get davfs to mount so my user can have permission
[08:25] <paradizelost> how long till vim7 is in the repo's?
[08:25] <Chousuke> cge: you missed the joke.
[08:25] <cge> Chousuke: oh
[08:25] <Ademan> firebird619: whee, thanks
[08:25] <cge> Chousuke: but q works
[08:25] <whyami> how can I set user priveliges from the CLI?
[08:25] <cge> Chousuke: and besides, I've used H.
[08:25] <firebird619> np
[08:25] <Chousuke> heh
[08:26] <Chousuke> I just remember the all-friendly "?"
[08:26] <cge> whyami: Do you mean permissions for a file (chmod), or sudo access (visudo)?
[08:26] <dick-richardson> whyami: sudo chmod 000 - 777
[08:26] <paradizelost> !offtopic
[08:26] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:26] <whyami> sorry I meant for a user. I have added a user. Now I want to set what that user can do. I don't have the gui.
[08:27] <paradizelost> whyami: vigr - will edit the users
[08:27] <cge> Chousuke: Yes. It is a very efficient editor. It never bothers you with things you shouldn't care about, like what you just did wrong.
[08:27] <paradizelost> group settings
[08:27] <Chousuke> cge: yes. :P
[08:27] <dick-richardson> exactly, join them into which ever groups you want them to have...video, audio, etc.
[08:27] <paradizelost> or you could use PAM
[08:27] <paradizelost> :D
[08:27] <whyami> vigr uses the vi editor? I don't seem to have that installed. I don't know vi either. Can I change to another editor?
[08:28] <dick-richardson> you installed ubuntu w/o vi?
[08:28] <cge> whyami: set EDITOR to the edtior you want.
[08:28] <cge> whyami: like ed, for example.
[08:28] <cge> (don't actually do that, it is a joke!)
[08:28] <paradizelost> whyami: set it to gvim
[08:28] <dick-richardson> ;)
[08:28] <paradizelost> :D
[08:29] <dick-richardson> that'll work great :/
[08:29] <whyami> cool. That worked.
[08:29] <whyami> I did nano
[08:30] <Ademan> vi actually isnt so bad.... beats the crap out of edlin... course i just plain didnt get edlin...
[08:30] <paradizelost> PICO
[08:30] <cge> Ademan: ed is very hard to use, yes.
[08:30] <dick-richardson> !root
[08:30] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:30] <dick-richardson> sorry :(
[08:30] <Ademan> paradizelost: i didnt even have pico on my full installation of ubuntu... why would i have it on a crippled debian install?
[08:31] <Ademan> lol
[08:31] <cge> Ademan: I don't think anyone has pico due to license issues.
[08:31] <paradizelost> is that like PICA-chu
[08:32] <paradizelost> !tell paradizelost offtopic
[08:32] <WarOfAttrition> so root login is not the same as maintenance mode?
[08:32] <paradizelost> !tell dick-richardson offtopic
[08:32] <paradizelost> !tell dick-richardson root
[08:33] <paradizelost> !help tell
[08:33] <paradizelost> !tell dick-richardson about root
[08:33] <paradizelost> !tell dick-richardson about offtopic
[08:34] <Ademan> how can you see all possible file systems to mount? ie cd drives as wel
[08:34] <paradizelost> Ademan: gparted
[08:34] <dick-richardson> man mount...
[08:35] <dick-richardson> sorry, misunderstood
[08:35] <paradizelost> Ademan: gparted will tell you hard drives, but from there look in /dev
[08:35] <WarOfAttrition> no seriously, setting passwd in maintenance mode, that's the root password right?
[08:35] <Ademan> paradizelost: no i meant from bash, sorry
[08:36] <Ademan> i have a gparted livecd that i used to resize my ntfs partition
[08:36] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: why do you want to change the root password?
[08:36] <paradizelost> !tell WarOfAttrition about root
[08:36] <dick-richardson> sudo fdisk -l
[08:36] <WarOfAttrition> I just did it in maintenance mode since it seems like anyone can just log in there and screw up the computer
[08:36] <WarOfAttrition> I set a password for it
[08:37] <rusty> Hi all!  Are other people getting crashes and slowness in Evolution in Dapper flgiht 5?
[08:37] <paradizelost> but if i get to your grub, change the kernel line to say init=/bin/bash a set password won't make a lick of difference
[08:37] <WarOfAttrition> rusty: you should try flight 7
[08:37] <paradizelost> rusty: upgrade to flight 7
[08:37] <dick-richardson> unless grub is password protected
[08:37] <paradizelost> rusty: go to #ubuntu+1 it's the dapper room
[08:37] <rusty> paradizelost: thanks.
[08:38] <nalioth> rusty: do you upgrade when prompted?
[08:38] <Ademan> dick-richardson: nothing happened it seems
[08:38] <ecker> anyone running dapper drake in heres?
[08:38] <rusty> Thanks
[08:38] <dick-richardson> it's not going to show cdrom drives...i'm still looking
[08:39] <Ademan> ah, thanks a lot
[08:39] <pruebosolo> hi
[08:39] <nseltzer> i need that website for wireless again please
[08:39] <Ademan> it didnt show my hard drive either, but its mounted already... so i guess that could explain that
[08:39] <nalioth> ecker: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion (read the /topic) please
[08:40] <_harm> ecker iam
[08:40] <ecker> _harm do you run azureus?
[08:41] <paradizelost> !wireless
[08:41] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[08:41] <_harm> ecker yes
[08:41] <_harm> ecker wait not :P i used to
[08:41] <ecker> ahh i got me hopes up
[08:42] <_harm> ecker you can though :D
[08:42] <_harm> just sudo apt it
[08:42] <juajua> yeja
[08:43] <firebird619>  In Synaptic, what causes it to say, for example,  Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.6-6) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu12.5.10.1 is to be installed?
[08:43] <ecker> i can't find it in any of my repos
[08:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ecker about azureus
[08:43] <paradizelost> firebird619: it depends on those packages to work...
[08:43] <dick-richardson> !azureus
[08:43] <nalioth> _harm: azureus is not in any ubuntu repos
[08:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dick-richardson about msg the bot
[08:44] <dick-richardson> I'm sorry :(
[08:44] <WarOfAttrition> paradizelost: that doesn't answer my question though, is the restore kernel password the same thing that is the root password/user?
[08:45] <firebird619> paradizelost: Yes, I know it means it depends on those packages, but why dies it say it depends on one version, but is going to install a different version.
[08:45] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: i would expect so...
[08:45] <firebird619> *does
[08:45] <WarOfAttrition> so then it's favorable to leave that mode open to any tampering?
[08:45] <ciruzzo> hi
[08:45] <paradizelost> firebird619: there may be a newer version available that something else requires.
[08:45] <ciruzzo> what is the amule credit file name?
[08:46] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: then i'd recommend password protecting grub or lilo
[08:47] <firebird619> paradizelost: How do I fix that so it doesn't say that, because when it gives those messages, I can't install the program I want, such as mythtv.
[08:47] <paradizelost> firebird619: talk to dick-richardson about that
[08:47] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: it should tell you how in your menu.lst
[08:47] <dick-richardson> firebird619: you have to have a preferences file under /etc/apt that makes the repository that contains the newer version take precedence
[08:48] <WarOfAttrition> what's so bad about the root password?
[08:48] <mike89> hello, I am trying to install a new soundcard into my system but i can't make it work. I used the guide on ubuntuguide.org when i first configured the system. How do I install this second sound card?
[08:48] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: what do you mean?
[08:48] <paradizelost> mike89: as a 2nd., or a replacement?
[08:48] <WarOfAttrition> why is it not recommended to have it?
[08:48] <paradizelost> can you do a cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp?
[08:48] <mike89> paradizelost, the other one is an onboard soundcard
[08:48] <mike89> you can't remove it
[08:48] <paradizelost> !tell WarOfAttrition about root
[08:48] <firebird619> dick-richardson: How do I do that? Do I create one myself or what?
[08:49] <mike89> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[08:49] <paradizelost> mike89: you using kde?
[08:49] <dick-richardson> firebird619: you may need to...
[08:49] <mike89> wait, thats cause xmms was playing but no sound
[08:49] <WarOfAttrition> I went there already, that doesn't answer my question though
[08:50] <mike89> when i did that command, it worked, but no sound
[08:50] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: it's going the way of assuming users are stupid.
[08:50] <firebird619> dick-richardson: Is there a url somewhere that explains how to create one, I wouldn't even know where to start.
[08:50] <WarOfAttrition> why isn't it fine just to not allow root to login graphically?
[08:50] <vladuz976> can someone help me with a DELL 19" LCD i can't find the horizontal and vertical sync rates http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?TabPage=techspecs&sku=19073YR&spagenum=&category_id=211&brandid=&k=&c=us&l=en&cs=19&mnf=694&prst=&prEnd=&mnfsku=&orderby=&searchtype=&pageb4search=&page=productlisting.aspx&instock=&refurbished=
[08:50] <paradizelost> !preferences
[08:50] <ubotu> paradizelost: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:50] <paradizelost> !flood
[08:50] <ubotu> [flood]  for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org or #flood here on freenode.
[08:51] <vladuz976> sorry i didn't expect the link to be that long
[08:51] <paradizelost> mike89: are your speakers plugged in and turned on
[08:51] <mike89> paradizelost, im not using kde
[08:51] <mike89> they are
[08:51] <WarOfAttrition> if they're that stupid, they're more likely to screw things up in mantenance mode which just starts up with no password
[08:51] <kaizoku> hello
[08:51] <kaizoku> how are you all?
[08:51] <ecker> what command is it to list broken packages?
[08:51] <mike89> kaizoku, frustrated :P
[08:52] <kaizoku> every time I try to compile source it says that my c compliler can't make binaries, I have gcc installed to the latest veriosn
[08:52] <kaizoku> *version
[08:52] <kaizoku> sory...
[08:52] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: in maintenance mode, it's text only, i'd expect they wouldn't know how to do anything....
[08:52] <kaizoku> *sorry
[08:52] <kaizoku> mike89-I know how you feel
[08:52] <nalioth> kaizoku: some source pkgs have wonky ./configure scripts and cause that error
[08:52] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: you see, my systems nave nopasswd set for sudo in the %admin group, and the root password is changed to my normal password...
[08:53] <mike89> paradizelost, if i choose the card I've just installed (in xmms alsa settings) it works fine. But not as a system/default mixing one
[08:53] <kaizoku> every package I've tried does it
[08:53] <vladuz976> how do I find the hori and vert sync rate of a monitor
[08:53] <paradizelost> mike89: you using breezy or dapper?
[08:53] <paradizelost> !tell vladuz976 about google
[08:53] <mike89> paradizelost, breezy
[08:54] <Seveas> kaizoku, you need more than gcc, install build-essential
[08:54] <kaizoku> ok, thanks
[08:54] <kaizoku> oh yeah, I can't get OpenGL to run either
[08:54] <Seveas> vladuz976, sudo ddcprobe
[08:55] <vladuz976> Seveas: i don't have it connected yet. it's for a new one. but i don't see it on the tech list of the monitor
[08:55] <kaizoku> I installed the nvidia-glx drivers from synaptic package manager, but it doesn't seem to do anything
[08:56] <dick-richardson> !tell dick-richardson about google
[08:57] <paradizelost> !google
[08:57] <ubotu> I heard google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[08:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell kaizoku about nvidia
[08:57] <Double_D> !gdesklets
[08:57] <ubotu> somebody said gdesklets was gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[08:59] <WarOfAttrition> ok, but the question is, to you advanced users, do you set a root password?
[08:59] <dick-richardson> I do, yes
[08:59] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: yes i do
[08:59] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: just because i want to use scp to copy files directly
[08:59] <dick-richardson> sudo su -
[08:59] <dick-richardson> passwd
[08:59] <bimberi> WarOfAttrition: nope
[09:00] <paradizelost> but, it seems to carry the same stigma as using automatix
[09:00] <paradizelost> !automatix
[09:00] <WarOfAttrition> because if you enable it, you can still use sudo right? and su asks for root pasword not your user?
[09:00] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:00] <bimberi> paradizelost: not quite :-)
[09:00] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: correct
[09:00] <paradizelost> !easyubuntu
[09:00] <WarOfAttrition> ok, makes sense to me, I dont think people are that stupid to be honest
[09:01] <dick-richardson> ...
[09:01] <paradizelost> dick-richardson: is taking a piss right now....
[09:01] <paradizelost> let's cheer him on....
[09:01] <kaizoku> oh ubotu is a bot?
[09:01] <paradizelost> !offtopic myself.
[09:01] <ubotu> paradizelost: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:01] <paradizelost> kaizoku: yes'
[09:01] <bimberi> kaizoku: yes
[09:02] <kaizoku> ooops
[09:02] <kaizoku> alright
[09:02] <dick-richardson> that knowledge helps them with ubuntu how...?
[09:02] <kaizoku> thanks for the help
[09:02] <bimberi> kaizoku: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:02] <paradizelost> !food
[09:02] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[09:03] <intelikey> anything happenin' in here t'day ?
[09:03] <paradizelost> intelikey: a lot of !'ing
[09:04] <jesuagud> need help for apache2 server
[09:04] <grte> Can anyone help me with a mutt/fetchmail/procmail problem?
[09:05] <intelikey> well i tried to build a hybird disk.   made a partition at the end of the disk and format it.  then mde2fs the disk.    it works but there are bugs i don't like.
[09:05] <paradizelost> grte: if it were gentoo, i'd say yes...
[09:05] <morphix> how do i set up SWAT, i have installed it using apt-get install, but it has no init.d script so i cant run it, any help??
[09:06] <grte> I don't think it'll be too bad.  I had it working, it's just stopped.
[09:07] <grte> Mutt says my mail spool is not a mailbox, which is weird, because it will recieve local mail, but not mail from gmail.
[09:08] <paradizelost> /leave badger badger badger see ya all later
[09:13] <intelikey> this is maybe as slow as i've ever seen it in here.   what is it the calmn before..... ?
[09:16] <dli> which sudo command to make sudo keep env-keep instead of env-reset?
[09:16] <intelikey> -i
[09:16] <intelikey> i think
[09:16] <intelikey> man sudo  knows
[09:17] <dli> intelikey, -i is --initial-login
[09:18] <brownie17> hey guys, can someone tell me how i can get an exucutable i have to run from a command at shell or whatever. i nkow you have to put it in like a folder called sh or something
[09:18] <intelikey> i can't even confirm that without instalind sudo...  tty23 [greg$~]  man sudo
[09:18] <intelikey> No manual entry for sudo
[09:18] <dli> intelikey, I want an easy access to X with sudo
[09:19] <intelikey> brownie17 no you prepend the sh command     'sh filename '
[09:19] <intelikey> dli startx  ?
[09:19] <dli> intelikey, no :(
[09:20] <brownie17> intelikey, ??  i mean how ican just type in firefox and it opens firefox, i wanna be able to do that with this program
[09:20] <intelikey> dli what are you asking ?
[09:20] <intelikey> brownie17 hehhe yeah.   just type in the command
[09:20] <dli> intelikey, sudo without changing DISPLAY= and Xauthority, or I have to reset them with a script
[09:21] <brownie17> intelikey, no you can't. it's not installed in the right folder for that to work. i wanna know what folder to put it in
[09:21] <intelikey> dli oh.  gksudo
[09:21] <intelikey> brownie17 where is it installed ?
[09:21] <brownie17> intelikey, it's just put in my home folder. straight extracted from a tgz
[09:22] <dli> intelikey, I think to set env for sudo is easier
[09:22] <intelikey> brownie17 then ./filename
[09:22] <rendo> I need some serious help here, can someone direct me to a link that offers assistance for viewing .wmv files in 5.10?  I've tried everything automatix, wiki.ubuntu.org and it sitll gives the additional plugsin required.
[09:22] <intelikey> dli ok.
[09:23] <brownie17> intelikey, sure i can do that, but i want to not have to. i wanna just be able to type from anywhere "realbasic" and it will open. like i can with firefox
[09:23] <intelikey> brownie17 then put it in /usr/local/bin
[09:24] <brownie17> intelikey, thanks. that's what i wanted to know. sorry if i'm not good at explaining
[09:24] <intelikey> brownie17 'sudo mv realbasic /usr/local/bin '
[09:24] <dli> intelikey, quite silly way, but it works, I'm making a liveusb based on gentoo, need to get a root term with sudo
[09:24] <Milos> hi
[09:25] <Milos> hi
[09:25] <Milos> sup
[09:25] <intelikey> Milos quiet in here....  aint it
[09:26] <Milos> yes
[09:26] <rendo> I need some serious help here, can someone direct me to a link that offers assistance for viewing .wmv files in 5.10?  I've tried everything automatix, wiki.ubuntu.org and it sitll gives the additional plugsin required.
[09:26] <Milos> sup
[09:26] <Milos> was up
[09:26] <Milos> ??
[09:27] <intelikey> !vlc
[09:27] <ubotu> [vlc]  a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[09:28] <WarOfAttrition> rendo: I think totem can play it, if you have w32codecs installed
[09:28] <WarOfAttrition> nay, I'm sure of it, just confirmed it
[09:28] <intelikey> rendo  no matter how good the opensource support gets for crap like .wmv  m$ will always put out something new that we cant see.   it's a sales gimmic.
[09:29] <WarOfAttrition> ah well if that's the case, you might as well forget it
[09:29] <rendo> I had it working fine the other day though and I shitted out my system and had to reinstall
[09:29] <WarOfAttrition> you can't fight ms on this
[09:29] <WarOfAttrition> only by not using their crappy media formats
[09:30] <intelikey> i can.   M$ doesn't live here any more...... :)
[09:30] <intelikey> yeah that
[09:30] <WarOfAttrition> yea but I mean, if you want to play those videos, you're better off looking for them in better formats
[09:31] <intelikey> ogg
[09:31] <WarOfAttrition> I still haven't ran into any "improved" wmv/wma format that I can't play though
[09:31] <WarOfAttrition> for video xvid
[09:32] <Kalopsya> Good morning everyone
[09:32] <intelikey> :)
[09:33] <Kalopsya> I don't know exactly what kind of issues are discussed on this channel
[09:33] <intelikey> the kind ubuntu users have
[09:33] <Kalopsya> therefore i don't know if i can ask some questions here [newbie ones :)}
[09:33] <jmoncayo> i know this is not a freebsd channel but can somebody tellme a vnc client for freebsd
[09:34] <intelikey> tightvnc ?
[09:34] <Kalopsya> I bought a new laptop and i've been looking forward to get ubuntu running in it :)
[09:35] <Kalopsya> Although i read some info on the internet about it i don't know if it will run smoothlly on my brand new HP Pavillion ZD8000
[09:35] <rendo> I hate this shit :@
[09:35] <Kalopsya> Is there anyone with practical experience of intalling ubuntu 5.10 on such a laptop?
[09:35] <WarOfAttrition> I recommend you get ubuntu 6.06 or wait till june for the final
[09:36] <Kalopsya> Where van i get 6.06 ?
[09:36] <dli> Kalopsya, google linux laptop
[09:36] <jmoncayo> intelikey, with that one can i ssh in freebsd an the vnc to my windows box?
[09:36] <dli> Kalopsya, what kinds of hardware?
[09:36] <dli> Kalopsya, generally, hp is friendly with linux
[09:37] <intelikey> jmoncayo should be able to, if you know what you're doing
[09:37] <Kalopsya> I915G, ati x900, TSS Corp DVD-RW, Broadcomm WiFi
[09:37] <Kalopsya> I cant recall the type of sound card...
[09:37] <WarOfAttrition> you're still more likely to detect more things on the dapper drake betas
[09:37] <intelikey> !ati
[09:37] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:38] <Kalopsya> dli: Thank you
[09:38] <Babacom> goodmorning room ... i just updated a 'Dapper Drake' installation, and now the system hangs when starting in the 'hald' deamon. Sounds familiair? Any Suggestions?
[09:38] <Kalopsya> ubotu: Thank you
[09:38] <ubotu> Kalopsya: pas de quoi
[09:38] <Kalopsya> ubotu: Are you french?
[09:38] <ubotu> Kalopsya: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:38] <intelikey> !botsnack
[09:38] <ubotu> :)
[09:38] <dli> Kalopsya, ati is difficult, bcm-wifi just entered kernel, so should be supported
[09:38] <intelikey> !botsnack
[09:38] <imbrandon> Kalopsya: ubotu is a bot ;)
[09:39] <intelikey> !ubotu
[09:39] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:39] <WarOfAttrition> kalopsya: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[09:39] <WarOfAttrition> just remember they're betas
[09:39] <Kalopsya> imbrandon: lol lol lol stupid me... Thanks anyway :)
[09:40] <Babacom> did anyone boot their Dapper Drake system after performing the second update this morning? (and got a 'hang' in hald?)
[09:40] <imbrandon> Babacom: i'm fully updated and everything is fine on MINE
[09:40] <Kalopsya> WarOfAttrition: Where can i get ubuntu 6.06 ? I browsed the website but i only see 5.10 there...
[09:40] <intelikey> i don't use hal so i didn't notice
[09:40] <topyli> Babacom: just booted a laptop ok. btw, dapper talk is in #ubuntu+1
[09:41] <Kalopsya> Another question: Why can't i run the 5.10 Live CD ?
[09:41] <WarOfAttrition> Kalopsya: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[09:41] <imbrandon> [02:39]  <WarOfAttrition> kalopsya: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[09:41] <imbrandon> [02:39]  <WarOfAttrition> just remember they're betas
[09:41] <thoreauputic> woohoo! ADSL2+ !
[09:41] <imbrandon> thats 6.06
[09:41] <Kalopsya> I run it it shows some dangling b/w spots and it goes pitch dark
[09:42] <intelikey> Kalopsya burn it your self ?     and what does it do before it fails... ?
[09:42] <Kalopsya> and i can't make it move from there
[09:42] <fiendster> hello, i installed windows and obliterated grub, how do i get grub back via a liveCD? thanks
[09:42] <Kalopsya> intelikey: I burned it myself. right before it goes pitch dark it starts slowly fading the white and balck spots...
[09:43] <donvella> Anyone know a replacement for windows Google Earth?
[09:43] <simtec> irc://irc.ashnet.org/WarezX
[09:43] <thoreauputic> !tell fiendster about grub
[09:44] <thoreauputic> fiendster: there's a wiki on restoring grub :)
[09:44] <fiendster> thanks thoreauputic
[09:44] <intelikey> Kalopsya hmmm sounds like vesa issue   try with  vga=788   at boot time.... not sure that will help.
[09:44] <thoreauputic> fiendster: bo problem :)
[09:44] <thoreauputic> *no
[09:45] <Kalopsya> intelikey: Denke ya :)
[09:45] <deep> Hello there. :)
[09:45] <Kalopsya> intelikey: Just curio.... What does vga=788 stand for?
[09:45] <intelikey> de nada
[09:45] <deep> How can i change resolution for my konsole? [ CTRL - ALT - F<1-6> ] 
[09:46] <Kalopsya> intelikey: are you portuguese?
[09:46] <intelikey> it's a setting for the frame buffer.   and no i'm not.
[09:46] <Kalopsya> so howcome do ou speak portuguese? Just curious :)
[09:46] <Kalopsya> Where are you from? If i may ask
[09:47] <intelikey> means  800x600x8bit   iirc
[09:47] <intelikey> Kalopsya are you german ?
[09:47] <deep> ...?
[09:47] <deep> Haha :p
[09:47] <fiendster> thoreauputic, would that apply to debian too? the ubuntu-grub tute? thanks
[09:47] <deep> Cant i change it then ?
[09:47] <deep> or?
[09:47] <deep> ^^
[09:47] <Kalopsya> No but i speak german though
[09:47] <thoreauputic> fiendster: I assume so - grub is grub :)
[09:47] <Kalopsya> ok ok ok i got the message
[09:48] <intelikey> there you have it.
[09:48] <fiendster> ok thanks my friend, you're the best
[09:48] <thoreauputic> fiendster: just a matter of installing grub to the MBR
[09:48] <Kalopsya> I just find it curious... POrtuguese is not a worldwide spoken language...
[09:48] <Kalopsya> Sorry. Didn't mean to sound intrusive
[09:49] <intelikey> hablos espanol Kalopsya ?
[09:49] <WarOfAttrition> spoken in 2 continents though
[09:49] <Kalopsya> Si, hablo.
[09:49] <Kalopsya> Y tu de anda podria ser espaol, si que tienes razn.
[09:49] <Kalopsya> *de nada
[09:50] <intelikey> no raised U.S.  english
[09:50] <Kalopsya> ok
[09:50] <Kalopsya> i will try both vga=788 and then 6.06
[09:50] <Kalopsya> thank you all
[09:50] <Kalopsya> see you in a while
[09:51] <Kalopsya> gotta go so i can restart :)
[09:51] <intelikey> just because i catch a few words, doesn't really mean i can speak it.
[09:51] <intelikey> luck with it.
[09:51] <Kalopsya> intelikey: You are right. Thank you for your help.
[09:52] <Kalopsya> Room: Thank you for your help. It's a shame i can't find such thing in my own country... You've been great.
[09:53] <WarOfAttrition> I can't find it here either, locally speaking to be honest
[09:53] <imbrandon> WarOfAttrition: and local is ?
[09:53] <WarOfAttrition> In fact the stores don't even sell red hat anymore
[09:53] <imbrandon> ewww redhat ;) thats probbly a good thing
[09:53] <WarOfAttrition> us of a
[09:54] <WarOfAttrition> well I mean no linux like comp usa used to have
[09:54] <imbrandon> bestbuy still has xandros and suse
[09:54] <imbrandon> and compusa carries a few flavors
[09:54] <WarOfAttrition> I couldn't find it in the best buy here either
[09:54] <WarOfAttrition> then again that was in January
[09:55] <imbrandon> xandros and suse is sold at most bestbuys and compusa's arround here, and one or two have linspire
[09:55] <WarOfAttrition> best buy, more like worst buy, no better deals than online if you can risk it
[09:55] <imbrandon> arround here == kansas city mo
[09:56] <imbrandon> WarOfAttrition: better to get cd's of (k)ubnutu from shipit and donate to ubnut if you want anyhow ;)
[09:56] <WarOfAttrition> exactly
[09:57] <intelikey> ubnut ?
[09:57] <imbrandon> typo ;)
[09:57] <imbrandon> just woke up
[09:57] <intelikey> yeah and a good one
[09:57] <intelikey>  u  b  nut
[09:57] <imbrandon> lol
[09:59] <rockdonus> hello
[09:59] <rockdonus> i see dot11WEPDefaultKey0= in the wlancfg-MYESSID file.
[09:59] <rockdonus> if iwconfig wlan0 key 9622435686 works normally, then do i set dot11WEPDefaultKey0=96:22:43:56:86?
[10:00] <axisme> just wondering, why dont you just use the network manager?
[10:00] <skon> when i re-install ubuntu, can i backup packages so as not to have to download the whole lot again?
[10:00] <rockdonus> im not on ubuntu right now, but i didnt want to bring that up because its something that i cant figure out on an ubuntu machine and a gentoo machine
[10:01] <intelikey> skon yes you can.
[10:01] <skon> great
[10:01] <rockdonus> do you know what i should be entering skon?
[10:01] <intelikey> i do that too
[10:01] <WarOfAttrition> ok take it easy, thanks for all the tips
[10:01] <arwate> hi
[10:01] <arwate> 've got a problem with the kubuntu 6.06 beta2 live cd
[10:01] <arwate> actually, I have two problems
[10:01] <AnAnt> how do I export my GPG public key in ascii format ?
[10:02] <arwate> 1st: the installer quits after the greeting screen. it shows the second screen, then quits without error message
[10:02] <skon> do i just backup up the archives and then move them back again?
[10:02] <azathoth> i get a pci mem allocation error on bootup in flight 7 dapper... its stopped my network card working... it was working fine in the kubuntu beta 2 live cd version tho... anyone know whats causing pci mem alloc failures?
[10:02] <arwate>  2nd: i can't write files to my hd. it is mounted, root has all rights and can create directories and touch files.but i can't write to them.
[10:02] <arwate> any thoughts?
[10:04] <intelikey> skon i save all that comes into /var/cache/apt/archives/   and when installing just copy them all there  and go.    but i install from cd.  if you are net installing there is also a dir in /var/lib/dpkg  i think... that you should save.   look for .deb files and save them all.
[10:05] <skon> intellikey: thanks for that
[10:05] <intelikey> skon find /var -name '*.deb'
[10:06] <skon> okay - thx
[10:07] <coldboot> When I install ant1.6.2-2ubuntu2, ant -version says it's ant 1.6.5. Anyone know what's up with the package?
[10:07] <intelikey> burn a cd, beets 34hour dl, any time....
[10:07] <Adross>  I have a few disks made with nero that weren't 'finalised'. Is there any way to read these in linux?
[10:08] <intelikey> Adross xcdroast comes to mind.
[10:08] <akmal> my computer sound not workin plz help me
[10:09] <Adross> intelikey: installing
[10:09] <intelikey> akmal cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:10] <akmal> beause i useing ubuntu
[10:10] <akmal> i donot have idia
[10:10] <hastesaver> !tell akmal about sound
[10:11] <hastesaver> akmal, did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:12] <rockdonus> does anyone know the answer to my question?
[10:12] <akmal> my sound doesnot working
[10:12] <akmal> yes
[10:12] <akmal> where are its cmd promt
[10:13] <nseltzer> I have a question about my Kernel for any brave soul :)
[10:13] <spacey> rockdonus: don't know but its probably in the manpage, you could give that a try
[10:14] <intelikey> akmal cmd prompt is found in a 'terminal' or 'console'              and sounding of speak.  err speaking of speak.  errr sounding of sound....   never mind i'll go fix my own sound issue....
[10:14] <cge> nseltzer: yes?
[10:14] <rockdonus> spacey: the reason im here is taht i read that i dont know lol
[10:15] <intelikey> nseltzer if you don't ask,  it won't be answered.
[10:16] <nseltzer> I'm trying to install my wireless card and I'm to the point where I need to add something to the kernal or modify it.
[10:16] <nseltzer> How would I go about doing that?
[10:16] <cge> nseltzer: You shouldn't need to. What card do you have?
[10:16] <hastesaver> Does anyone know how I can improve my bootup time?
[10:16] <cge> hastesaver: Disable services that you don't need, which would most likely include evms and lvm.
[10:16] <nseltzer> Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[10:17] <hastesaver> cge, oh, I don't need lvm? It takes a loong time; I thought it's necessary...
[10:17] <cge> hastesaver: Are you using it? It isn't used by default, you have to set up the partitions to use it in the install.
[10:18] <intelikey> nseltzer sounds like  'lsmod, rmmod, and modprobe' that you are asking about.    also   the file /etc/modules  is the place to put the name of the module you want automaticly inserted into the kernel at boot time.
[10:18] <hastesaver> cge, no, I don't think I'm using it. How do I disable the services?
[10:18] <intelikey> !wifi
[10:18] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:18] <intelikey> nseltzer been  there  ^
[10:19] <nseltzer> Thank you inteikey
[10:19] <nseltzer> At least I don't have to log off to try these anymore :P
[10:19] <nseltzer> And cge
[10:19] <cge> hastesaver: Do you know how to use the terminal?
[10:19] <hastesaver> cge, yes, pretty well
[10:20] <cge> hastesaver: I hate having to ask that. If I ask, the user knows very well, and if I don't ask, the user has no idea what I am talking about.
[10:20] <hastesaver> cge, lol :)
[10:21] <Man11> guys, i got 2 OS running in my PC(windows & Linux) Linux is my bootloader. i would like to delete my linux and let windows will be my remaining OS. how will i configure my windows OS to be the Bootloader??
[10:21] <cge> hastesaver: You can use sudo update-rc.d -f NAME_OF_SERVICE remove, where NAME_OF_SERVICE is the name of the service in /etc/init.d/ that you want to disable.
[10:22] <hastesaver> cge, the "service" is just the name of the file in /etc/init.d ?
[10:22] <cge> hastesaver: yes
[10:22] <intelikey> Man11 boot the recovery cd of windows and there is a tool to fixmbr    i don't know the specifics.  i don't do windows
[10:23] <nseltzer> Does Ubuntu have the makefile ability
[10:23] <nseltzer> or the make command?
[10:23] <cge> hastesaver: There are quite a few that can be disabled besides those two. If you don't use bluetooth bluez-utils can be disabled, and the same with HP printers and hplip, pcmcia* and pcmcia, etc.
[10:23] <kalopsya> Hello again
[10:23] <intelikey> Man11 there is probably a wiki on it  at http:ubuntu.com
[10:23] <intelikey> errr //
[10:23] <ohzie> Hey
[10:23] <ohzie> !laptop
[10:23] <ubotu> [laptop]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[10:23] <kalopsya> I am now running Xchat from the live CD, in Ubuntu
[10:23] <Man11> intelikey: ok i'll try it.tnxs
[10:24] <azathoth> i'm getting a "PCI: Failed to allocate mem" error that is b0rking my network card... anyone know any solutions to these problems?
[10:24] <cge> nseltzer: Have you installed build-essential?
[10:24] <kalopsya> I guess i have a problem with the previously referred laptop. I tried to run the same live CD from my desktop and it is running as smoothly as the boy can be
[10:24] <hastesaver> cge, thanks. What about acpid and acpi-support? I'm not using a laptop, and IIRC, those are for batteries?
[10:25] <intelikey> azathoth looks like a driver issue.
[10:25] <nseltzer> Just finished
[10:25] <cge> hastesaver: You can probably disable them. It might make your power button no longer work properly, however.
[10:25] <nseltzer> I would like like to take a seconds to say how awesome you all are.
[10:26] <hastesaver> cge, for turning off, right? Not for *shudders* turning on?
[10:26] <kalopsya> intelikey: I guess the 788 setting didn't work... :(
[10:26] <ohzie> Can anybody give me a suggestion regarding getting my laptop's screen to shut off when I close it?
[10:26] <azathoth> intelikey: i get it before anything has booted up, it's on my bootup list
[10:26] <thoreauputic> nseltzer: yeah, we're pretty modest about it... *grin*
[10:26] <ohzie> Lattitude D800...
[10:26] <azathoth> most i can tell it was a kernel issue... but for some reason it doesn't appear when i use the kubuntu 6.06 beta 2 live cd, but the 6.06 flight 7 ubuntu build b0rks on it
[10:27] <intelikey> kalopsya hmmm yeah.   ;/     i still say it's  trying to use vesa and something is out of sync.....
[10:27] <intelikey> kalopsya you searched the wiki's ?
[10:27] <cge> hastesaver: Right. You look around in /proc/acpi to see if acpi is supported in your system. If it isn't, then disabling it is a good idea, but if it is, disabling can break some things like power saving modes, the soft off functions of the power button, cpu scaling, and cpu temperature measurement (for some cpu's).
[10:28] <bobslaede> so, Im changing my screens refreshrate, but it doesnt work, can anybody tell me how to do this?
[10:28] <kalopsya> intelikey: how can i solve this problem... Anything to help?
 intelikey: i get it before anything has booted up, it's on my  bootup list <---- what boot up list before anything has booted up ?
[10:28] <bobslaede> i tried the xorg.conf monitor section, horizsync and vertrefresh things
[10:28] <Madeye> guys, is there anyway to enable Auto login after X seconds idle on login screen in Gnome?
[10:28] <cge> Madeye: look in the GDM configuration.
[10:28] <bobslaede> Madeye: i believe you can do that in the gdm manager
[10:29] <cge> Madeye: System/Administration/Login Manager
[10:29] <azathoth> well i mean it's like the first thing that happens when the pc boots... after the kernel gets decompressed, it gives that error then continues to boot as normal
[10:29] <intelikey> kalopsya try the latest live cd  ?    idk what to tell ya.   live cd is "either it boots or it doesn't"
[10:30] <cge> kalopsya: Yes, getting a livecd to work when it doesn't do so out of the box is _very difficult_.
[10:31] <cge> kalopsya: unless it can be fixed by kernel options, like disabling things.
[10:31] <filubuntu> ciao
[10:31] <kalopsya> intelikey,, cge : Thank you. I will try the 6.02 DCD Thanks alot :)
[10:31] <intelikey> azathoth then it is a driver issue indeed.  the lack of a driver, might be more percise.    if you can get it working then build a new initramfs.img/initrd.img   it might work.......   i said might.
[10:31] <filubuntu> come faccio ad entrare in ubuntu.it?
[10:32] <prem> hi all, any seamonkey debs arround?
[10:32] <prem> i can only seamonkey 1.0 debs in contrib but not the latet 1.0.1 debs which was released couple of days back
[10:32] <intelikey> kalopsya any time
[10:32] <NeoCicak> hello.. i'm not sure if this is an error in my xwin configuration or ubuntu.. but i cant do xsession login anymore from remote machine running xwin to my ubuntu box after upgrading to dapper drake.. any idea guys?
[10:32] <intelikey> !it
[10:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:32] <kalopsya> filubuntu, sai parlare inglese?
[10:33] <filubuntu> scusa ma mi puoi dire come si  fa?
[10:33] <kalopsya> filubuntu, ma come si fa che?
[10:34] <Senilix> NeoCicak: reconfigure gdm: gksudo gdmsetup
[10:34] <filubuntu> a connettersi a ubuntu-it
[10:34] <kalopsya> filubuntu, io sonno uni newbie. non so come fare niente. niente di niente
[10:34] <NeoCicak> Senilix: the problem is that i dont have x11 running (not even in xwin)... doing over ssh...
[10:35] <NeoCicak> Senilix: correction.. X11 is running.. but i'm doing it over ssh
[10:35] <Senilix> NeoCicak: ssh -Y?
[10:35] <scheuri> hi all
[10:35] <NeoCicak> Senilix: -Y ????  i'm doing it using putty
[10:35] <Senilix> NeoCicak: ah, putty..
[10:35] <SaLo> putty
[10:36] <SaLo> :/
[10:36] <Senilix> NeoCicak: edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf by hand?
[10:36] <SaLo> use vnc
[10:36] <SaLo> ^^
[10:36] <NeoCicak> Senilix: what should i edit??
[10:36] <intelikey> tight
[10:36] <SaLo> meta
[10:37] <scheuri> not vnc, but freeNX
[10:38] <intelikey> anyone ever put a file system on an hdd and also a partition with a file system ?
[10:38] <Senilix> NeoCicak: try to read the file. it has a lot of comments. i have never editied it by hand my self :)
[10:39] <hollowlife1987> intelikey: what do you mean by that?
[10:39] <intelikey> hollowlife1987 just what i asked,   am i the only one that ever did that ?
[10:40] <hollowlife1987> im confused, did you put a filesystem on the whole hdd like a floppy disk?
[10:40] <intelikey> hollowlife1987 you do know that you can mkfs /dev/hda  and have a filesystem on the disk without any partition,  don't you ?
[10:41] <NeoCicak> hmm... this is weird... xdmcp is enabled.. but i cant see the login box... etc.... just totally grey cross-hatched screen
[10:41] <hollowlife1987> not really, im fairly new to *nix but i learn fast
[10:41] <intelikey> yes i put a file system on hd  but limit it to about half the size of the disk and then added a partition at the end of the fs.  and put an fs on the partition also.
[10:42] <hollowlife1987> interesting
[10:42] <nseltzer> how do I install drivers in *nix?
[10:42] <hollowlife1987> intelikey: any reasoning behind it?
[10:42] <intelikey> hollowlife1987 it is very buggy.   don't try it with anything you dont want to loose.
[10:43] <hollowlife1987> thx, i kind of assumed that, i know a little bit about hdd's and the mbr etc.
[10:43] <nseltzer> nvm, I got it
[10:43] <intelikey> yes.  trying to "push the envolope"   i guess.    but doing the things every one else does is boaring.
[10:44] <hollowlife1987> lol, if i come up with a spare box i might try that just for fun :)
[10:45] <intelikey> that's the reason i did    chmod 000000001 / -R && chmod 700 /home/user -R     so user could fix his home..... :)
[10:46] <fj2> hy all ! got a problem with firefox and ubuntu 5.10. when i try to start firefox it says: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No_such file or directory
[10:46] <fj2> can anyone hlep?
[10:46] <Overand> fj2: one sec
[10:46] <fj2> Overand: k
[10:47] <Overand> fj2: try sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
[10:47] <Overand> and maybe sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[10:48] <fj2> overand: already newest version.. :/
[10:48] <intelikey> fj2 if it's already installed....  find /lib -name 'libgtk-x11*'
[10:48] <intelikey> err maybe in /usr/
[10:49] <fj2> hmm . got that file in /usr/lib
[10:50] <fj2> i mean the file firefoy is requesting... :/
[10:51] <vladuz976> is there something like a command line dictionary for linux?
[10:51] <intelikey> then it's a path error you could link it to /lib     sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 /lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0      and see what happens.
[10:51] <intelikey> !cli
[10:51] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[10:52] <intelikey> vladuz976 like that ^
[10:52] <fj2> linked that file, but still same error
[10:52] <Overand> vladuz976: a great program is 'apropos'
[10:52] <Overand> if you type: apropos memory
[10:52] <Overand> it'll tell you the names of some programs related to 'memory'
[10:52] <Overand> etc
[10:53] <spikeb> try shooting firefox in the face
[10:53] <intelikey> fj2 malone
[10:53] <luke_> anyone here installed DenyHosts before?
[10:53] <vladuz976> Overand: no i meant a real dictinary that tells me the meaning of a word like "bellegrant"
[10:53] <fj2> *lol* spikeb also already tried... had to get a new monitor after that ;)
[10:53] <spikeb> fj2: hehehe
[10:53] <fj2> intelikely: malone ?!
[10:54] <deep> Ello ^^
[10:54] <intelikey> !malone
[10:54] <intelikey> !bug
[10:54] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[10:54] <spikeb> karl malone!
[10:55] <Overand> vladuz976: aahhhh
[10:55] <Overand> dunno
[10:55] <hurax> i have now something seriously borked
[10:56] <scheuri> hurax: that would be
[10:56] <scheuri> ?
[10:56] <hurax> removed the cable to my mp3 player when it was still mounted
[10:56] <spikeb> HEH
[10:56] <hurax> now i have several processes that cannot be killed even with -9
[10:56] <scheuri> hurax: such as? what processes?
[10:56] <hurax> tried umount -l but that didn't stop them
[10:56] <intelikey> reboot'll get'em
[10:56] <hurax> system load is now 12 and climbing
[10:56] <spikeb> i have a better suggestion
[10:57] <spikeb> reboot
[10:57] <intelikey> you know he could just cycle.
[10:57] <hurax> scheuri: one rm and some kdeinit stuff
[10:57] <intelikey> init 1
[10:57] <intelikey> then init 2
[10:58] <hurax> is there nothing i can do on a running system?
[10:58] <intelikey> cycle
[10:58] <luke_> DenyHosts could not obtain lock (pid: )
[10:58] <luke_> [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/var/lock/subsys/denyhosts'
[10:58] <luke_> any ideas?
[10:58] <cge> intelikey: the procs are uninterruptable and won't be killed by cycling to init 1, I believe.
[10:59] <cge> hurax: Have you tried just waiting?
[10:59] <intelikey> oomk
[10:59] <intelikey> :)
[10:59] <scheuri> hurax: is root trying to kill the processes?
[10:59] <hurax> yes, in fact i waited the night over
[11:00] <hurax> scheuri: tried both as user and root
[11:00] <intelikey> that'll fix it
[11:00] <scheuri> hurax: well, sorry then...guess reboot is easiest...or remount it and properly unmount it
[11:00] <hurax> ok thanks
[11:00] <cge> scheuri: I don't think it can be remounted in this case.
[11:01] <intelikey> try init 1 init 2   before you reboot
[11:01] <scheuri> cge: it was just a wild gues...instead of rebooting...a last try.....:)
[11:01] <fj2> hmm... got another problem.... my xorg doesnt seem to recognize my monitor correctly... i cant use a better resolution than 1024x768@60hz .... how can i fix that?
[11:01] <aftertaf> fj2: add the new resolution in your xorg.conf
[11:02] <scheuri> fj2: try to hunt down the EXACT info of your monitor, put them into xorg.conf and add new resolutions to it as well
[11:02] <fj2> the resolution is set in the screen section of xorg.conf
[11:02] <cge> This a really annoying problem - it can also happen with cupsys and /dev/usb/lp0 if you shut down cupsd in the wrong way, and in many other cases. I would think that there would be some way to kill the processes, but there isn't as far as I can tell.
[11:02] <deep> Any recommendation where i can begin learning the basics of c++?
[11:02] <scheuri> fj2: and check your driver
[11:02] <cge> deep: Are you already a competent programmer?
[11:03] <deep> Nah, i have been into PHP and such but never C++, java or anything like that. :)
[11:03] <fj2> driver is also installed correctly... the problem seems to be the monitor... and i dont understand the horizsync/vertrrefresh settings :/
[11:03] <intelikey> fj2 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and  when the monitor question comes up choose advanced option,  (not expert unless you know the vsync and hrefresh for your monitor..)   and set it up correctly.
[11:03] <deep> Thats why i wanted to go for the basics :)
[11:04] <cge> deep: Well, you could try learning python or ruby first. That might be a better idea.
[11:04] <fj2> intelikely: will i have to reinstall the graphics driver after that?
[11:04] <intelikey> fj2 if you know the rates.  just edit /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[11:04] <deep> Okay, then. Recommendation for someplace to learn Python? :)
[11:04] <aftertaf> Deep google :)
[11:04] <cge> deep: There is diveintopython included with Ubuntu.
[11:04] <cge> deep: In /usr/share/doc/diveintopython
[11:04] <deep> :O
[11:04] <deep> Nice ! :D
[11:04] <aftertaf> even better :)
[11:05] <deep> Ill check that out ^^
[11:05] <fj2> i dont know the rates.... and i dont know where to get them... its a monitor built in '95 ;)
[11:05] <intelikey> fj2 i can't really answer about the drivers.   i only have native drivers...
[11:05] <aftertaf> that can do more than 1062*768
[11:05] <hollowlife1987> deep: http://programmingebooks.tk
[11:05] <aftertaf> ?
[11:05] <hurax> forgot about the damned nvidia xserver
[11:05] <fj2> btw: xserver-xorg is not installed ;)
[11:05] <intelikey> fj2 http://monitorworld.com  search
[11:05] <hurax> which crashes everythoing when exiting it
[11:05] <deep> http://programmingebooks.tk
[11:05] <deep> http://programmingebooks.tk
[11:05] <deep> http://programmingebooks.tk
[11:05] <nseltzer> I cannot get my wifi driver to install
[11:05] <fj2> and jup this baby can make up to 1600x1200@75hz ;)
[11:06] <intelikey> xfree86 ?
[11:06] <deep> ;O
[11:06] <deep> Sry
[11:06] <fj2> nope i got xorg....
[11:06] <hollowlife1987> lol
[11:06] <aftertaf> install it then fj2 ... :)
[11:06] <fj2> but... erm... seems like that package istn installed *lol*
[11:06] <fj2> mom ;)
[11:06] <aftertaf> xorg-xserver
[11:06] <cge> deep: Python is very nice unless you are doing really low-level stuff or very intensive algorithms. It is very easy to learn, and has built in documentation. Personally, I prefer Haskell, but that certainly isn't something you want to try to learn first.
[11:06] <scheuri> xorg-xserver it is
 btw: xserver-xorg is not installed ;)  <--- you have xorg and that is not installed ?
[11:07] <deep> Thanq all, now going to get something yo eat
[11:07] <deep> Cya later :)
[11:07] <nseltzer> Why would I keep getting an error about being unable to find /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build?
[11:08] <aftertaf> nseltzer: depends on what youre doing ;)
[11:08] <fj2> shit... just a little typo... of course i got xserver-xorg installed ;)
[11:08] <scheuri> nseltzer: do you have linux-headers installed?
 xorg-xserver it is  <--- huh ?
[11:08] <nseltzer> scheuri, i'm quite useless on this particular subject.
[11:08] <scheuri> intelikey: I thought so, after fj2 said he cant find it...:)
[11:08] <nseltzer> i'm reading and i'l not coming up with much
[11:08] <aftertaf> intelikey: i got it backwards ;)
[11:09] <scheuri> nseltzer: well, type uname -r and tell me what you see
[11:09] <intelikey> are you guys pulling my nogo ?
[11:09] <aftertaf> !info xserver-xorg
[11:09] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server (dummy package)), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 700 kB
[11:09] <aftertaf> :)
[11:10] <fj2> ark no calc here... anyone can tell me whats 512*1024 is?
[11:10] <nseltzer> scheuri,  bash: to: command not found
 <fj2> btw: xserver-xorg is not installed ;)  <--- you have xorg and that is not installed ?   <<[11:10] <scheuri> nseltzer: uh? try "which uname"
[11:10] <aftertaf> 524288 fj2 :)
[11:11] <fj2> thx
[11:11] <vladuz976> does anybody know how to release a project under a software license like bsd or GPL ?
[11:11] <nseltzer> /bin/uname
[11:11] <scheuri> nseltzer: then "uname -r" should work
[11:11] <spikeb> vladuz976: if you use the GPL, it just needs a COPYING file, along with a notice in the app saying it's under the gpl
[11:11] <intelikey> fj2 no calc ?    echo $(( put you expression here))
[11:11] <nseltzer> 2.6.12=9=386
[11:11] <fj2> lol ;)
[11:11] <nseltzer> those =
[11:12] <intelikey> bash does math
[11:12] <calmdown> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_dists_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:12] <calmdown> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:12] <calmdown> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:12] <calmdown> thecheat@illusion:~$
[11:12] <nseltzer> 's are -'s
[11:12] <calmdown> any ideas ?
[11:12] <vladuz976> spikeb: and then just put it on freshmeat  or sourceforge?
[11:12] <scheuri> nseltzer: well, that looks weird to me, but...you need the linux-headers for 386
[11:12] <spikeb> vladuz976: if you want, yeah
[11:12] <scheuri> nseltzer: try "aptitude search linux-headers"
[11:12] <nseltzer> scheuri, 2.6.12-9-386
[11:12] <spikeb> vladuz976: if you want,i can check and see real quick if there's like a guide to using the gpl
[11:13] <nseltzer> scheuri, What are we looking for?
[11:13] <vladuz976> spikeb: if you know where to look
[11:13] <scheuri> nseltzer: after the search, there should be a line "linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386"
[11:13] <Zukero>  /j #ubuntu-fr
[11:13] <Zukero> sorry
[11:13] <scheuri> nseltzer: THAT you need to install
[11:13] <nseltzer> There is
[11:13] <spikeb> vladuz976: i'll look real quick here
[11:14] <nseltzer> scheuri, ... how do I do that?
[11:14] <vladuz976> spikeb: ok
[11:14] <scheuri> nseltzer: "aptitude instal [name of that package we just found] 
[11:14] <spikeb> vladuz976: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-howto.html
[11:14] <scheuri> nseltzer: install with two ll
[11:14] <nseltzer> scheuri, thanks
[11:14] <scheuri> nseltzer: welcome
[11:14] <nseltzer> scheuri, I'll let you know how I mess it up :P
[11:15] <scheuri> nseltzer: ..;)
[11:15] <vladuz976> spikeb: you know anything about BSD license, i have software written in lisp
[11:15] <intelikey> fj2 i was for real.  bash does math.    " echo $((1024 * 192)) "    or in a command string like    dd if=blah of=blah count=$((1024 * 1.44))
[11:15] <spikeb> vladuz976: i'll see if there's a howto for the bsd license
[11:17] <intelikey> bash is "all that"   and a moon pie.
[11:18] <yojimbo-san> quick question; I'm thinking of trying OpenVZ, but AFAIK it only works with their own patched version of the 2.6.8 kernel; what does Dapper want to use? will the ovz kernel cause any problems?
[11:18] <intelikey> sounds like the wether is going to get me...    be back when.
[11:20] <spikeb> vladuz976: not finding anything
[11:20] <vladuz976> spikeb: me neither
[11:22] <spikeb> vladuz976: again, all you probably have to do is have a notice somewhere in the app or tarball that the code is under the BSD license, and a copy of said license
[11:22] <ircbrowser99> hello... trying breezy 5.10 live cd on old hardware (pentium 200, no mmx, aic7880 scsi). unsupported config (96mb ram instead of min req 128mb). With that in mind, here's the Q: LiveCD must have boot param passed to it to load successfully -- any way to get it to use those params by default?
[11:22] <Zukero> anyone strong with ifconfig,iwconfig and route ?
[11:22] <vladuz976> spikeb: probably
[11:23] <vladuz976> spikeb: thanks
[11:23] <yojimbo-san> ircbrowser99: only to create a new live CD from scratch, or boot from something like a USB drive that then loads from the CD ... ?
[11:23] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[11:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[11:23] <Zukero> ircbrowser99 : i think no, as you can't change what's already on the cd
[11:23] <spikeb> vladuz976: most apps have that info under the about menu :)
[11:23] <Zukero> ok
[11:24] <ircbrowser99> yojimbo-san, Zukero: ty
[11:25] <vladuz976> spikeb: for some reason most lisp project are released in BSD, dunno why
[11:25] <Zukero> i want to share the internet (ethernet) connection of my dapper box via wifi, that is, my breezy box would use ad hoc wifi connection to the dapper one to get to inet
[11:25] <Zukero> both wifi cards are up and running
[11:25] <spikeb> vladuz976: lisp hackers are probably old bsd hackers too :)
[11:25] <nseltzer> What would cause /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[11:26] <Zukero> nseltzer : you don't have gcc 3.4
[11:26] <Zukero> ?
[11:26] <fj2> back again with old problems... managed it to get my monitor up to 1024x786@85hz ...but no chance to get higher... so wtf is the horizsync option?
[11:26] <scheuri> nseltzer: ...do you want to install vmware?
[11:26] <nseltzer> scheuri, What is vmware? I'm just trying to install the drivers for my wireless car.
[11:27] <nseltzer> scheuri, It's turning out to be a pain :P
[11:27] <scheuri> nseltzer: ..ah...easy...was a wild guess anyway...:)
[11:27] <mickel> hallo!!
[11:27] <Zukero> nseltzer : what card ?
[11:27] <ompaul> nseltzer, its is software from a company at www.vmware.com
[11:27] <mickel> wie komme ich auf die deutsche seite von ubuntu???
[11:27] <scheuri> nseltzer: aptitude search gcc will show you several gcc-versions available
[11:27] <Zukero> mickel : #ubuntu-de
[11:28] <mickel> thx
[11:28] <njstahl> Hey, I'm trying to get a Ti ACX1xx based wireless card to work on my friend's breezy install and I can't figure out how to get it to work
[11:29] <nseltzer> scheuri, OK, I installed what I though would be the most relavent :P
[11:29] <njstahl> according to the driver's webpage, the card should be supported, the module loads fine, but the device doesn't show up
[11:29] <kbrooks> "To produce Ubuntu, Canonical take a development version of Debian and polish it up for release, thus including later versions of many components than the current official Debian release." #=> uh. Ubuntu isn't Debian with sugar on top
[11:29] <nseltzer> scheuri,  the gcc 3.4 and I still am gettign errors
[11:29] <luke_> when I attempt to  connected to my sshd, i get the error "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[11:29] <njstahl> Also it's quite confusing that hotplug doesn't seem to exist anymore. has it been replaced by something else?
[11:29] <scheuri> nseltzer: well, I am sorry...I am afraid I am now on the limits of my knowledge
[11:29] <luke_> i am running bastille, do you think that would have anything to do with it?
[11:30] <scheuri> nseltzer: ah wait...
[11:30] <scheuri> nseltzer: your gcc is a symbolic link that might still show to your gcc 4.0...
[11:31] <luke_> the error in my auth.log is "May 10 19:27:23 localhost sshd[6873] : refused connect from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 (::ffff:127.0.0.1)"
[11:31] <scheuri> luke_: is sshd up and running? which port is configured?
[11:32] <luke_> yes scheuri, port 9783
[11:32] <njstahl> a non-running sshd would not generate that error
[11:32] <njstahl> also, anyone know where hotplug went for breezy?
[11:32] <scheuri> njstahl: sorry, you are right
[11:32] <scheuri> luke_: so do you give that port at your clients ssh-connect?
[11:32] <luke_> scheuri, njstahl, sshd is definately running
[11:32] <luke_> scheuri, ssh -p 9783 localhost
[11:33] <scheuri> luke_: are you root or a user?
[11:33] <luke_> scheuri, user
[11:33] <scheuri> uhmmm...
[11:33] <luke_> i am running Bastille, maybe that has something to do with it
[11:34] <scheuri> luke_: that is possible...must be something in the config...
[11:34] <deep> Hey again. :)
[11:35] <luke_> scheuri, when I 'sudo bastille' it doesnt let me skip sections in the configuration - and I really dont want to have to go through the WHOLE thing just to get to the last section again
[11:35] <luke_> do you know if i can manually edit it somewhere?
[11:36] <scheuri> luke_: sorry, cant help you with that
[11:36] <nseltzer> scheuri,  Sorry, I am on a Satellite connection so it is really crap.
[11:37] <scheuri> nseltzer: no worries....there was one thing I might suggest
[11:37] <frandavid100> hello
[11:37] <nseltzer> scheuri, I would be more than happy to try it
[11:37] <scheuri> nseltzer: your gcc is a sybolic link that points probably still to your gcc-4.0
[11:37] <frandavid100> can someone please tell me what the specifications on launchpad are for and how to open one?
[11:37] <nseltzer> scheuri, How would I go about changing that?
[11:38] <scheuri> nseltzer: either change your ENV-variables so your user takes gcc-3.4 (cant help you with that though) or change the symbolic link to gcc-3.4
[11:38] <nseltzer> scheuri, Let's just try my WD card... :P
[11:39] <scheuri> nseltzer: ...;)...I know its a pain if your hardware is not supported...
[11:39] <nseltzer> scheuri,  It's not your fault :P
[11:39] <nseltzer> scheuri, I'l make it work somehow :P
[11:40] <J_element> hello, umm can any one help me change the splash screen on ubuntu! i have no clue on how to do that
[11:40] <scheuri> nseltzer: I know...but it makes me sad, because that is often why people wont use linux...
[11:40] <J_element> i downloaded the splash screen package i want
[11:40] <J_element> !splashscreen
[11:40] <ubotu> it has been said that splashscreen is to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[11:40] <nseltzer> scheuri, I LOVE challenges
[11:40] <scheuri> nseltzer: so do I...but sometimes I just want to work with my OS...;)...
[11:40] <luke_> scheuri, I found the problem. /etc/hosts.deny reads sshd: 127.0.0.1 hehe
[11:41] <scheuri> luke_: lol...okay...that makes connections rather difficult...;)
[11:42] <donvella> J_element: i have a solution for you
[11:42] <donvella> do you have sysv?
[11:43] <donvella> if you install gconf-editor you can change the spash screen yourself
[11:43] <cafuego_> hey camper
[11:43] <cafuego_> donvella: See also'gtweakui'.
[11:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey cafuego
[11:43] <luke_> what cli command would I use if I wanted to 'cat' every file in /var/log/ consecutively?
[11:44] <cafuego_> luke_: cat /var/log/*
[11:44] <luke_> ty
[11:44] <cafuego_> luke_: Due to compression, I suggest 'zcat'.
[11:44] <luke_> cafuego, why do u need to compress?
[11:44] <cafuego_> luke_: The logrotator compresses, if you cat the compessed files, you'll get binary crap.
 one of the cats is tossing a pice of chicken around the kitchen
[11:46] <bony> when i update my package list i get this problem in my ubuntu dapper Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch
[11:47] <luke_> cafuego, ah thanks!
[11:47] <bony> what should i do
[11:47] <cafuego_> bony: try a different server.
[11:47] <valentyn> I think I may have found a regression in the Dapper Beta. What IRC channel should I use to discuss it?
[11:47] <AnAnt> I am using DHCP on eth0, the problem is that it overwrites my nameserver settings in /etc/resolv.conf, how can I disable that ?
[11:47] <ompaul> valentyn, start in #ubuntu+1
[11:48] <cafuego_> AnAnt: You wanna make the dhcp server give out the right info. If not, 'sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf'
[11:48] <ompaul> bony, remove the in. after the http:// in a terminal sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:48] <luke_> i love reading my auth.log, and seeing all the failed login attempts - then sending their IP addresses with log to their ISP.
[11:49] <bony> ompaul, ok i will check it
[11:50] <AnAnt> ok, I got a problem with mplayer, when playing some realmedia or WMV files I get this warning "alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.006 msecs. resetting stream" , and the sound is intermittent
[11:51] <cafuego_> Hmm, one of the trams in this line has a wheel with a flat side
[11:52] <bony> ompaul, it's working but why is it not working with in ?
[11:53] <ompaul> bony, in is out of sync most likely
[11:53] <bony> ompaul, ok thanks
[11:53] <ompaul> bony, try them in a day or so
[11:53] <bony> ok
[11:55] <fj2> re.... lsst sich immernoch nicht hoeher einstellen....
[11:55] <cafuego_> ist das so?
[11:56] <donvella> anyone have a Hearts Cardgame replacement?
[11:57] <ircbrowser99> yeah... doom!
[11:57] <ircbrowser99> ;)
[11:57] <Zukero> blobwars
[11:57] <cafuego_> donvella: I think there's a few billion card games in Linux
[11:57] <Zukero> it rocks !
[11:58] <donvella> cafuego_: i want hearts :D
[11:58] <cafuego_> donvella: apt-cach search hearts
[11:58] <donvella> cafuego no command found
[11:59] <cafuego_> apt-cache
[11:59] <Blippe> donvella doesn't aisleriot contain a hearts-game? (i don't know)
[11:59] <donvella> aisleriot? it found something under thename of 'floater', how would i go about installing this package?
[12:00] <cafuego_> sudo apt-get install floater
[12:02] <ugurdevriL> hi everyone, i have a question: i'm using ubuntu dapper beta2 on a hp laptop, i want to use vga output for projector, how can i activate it?
[12:02] <neftune> is it normal for /etc/ld.so.conf not to exist?
[12:02] <fergofrog> how did u get the beta
[12:03] <ompaul> ugurdevriL, that is a function of your laptop Fn F8 maybe - can differ
[12:03] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:03] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:03] <donvella> cheers guys
[12:03] <ugurdevriL> ompaul, it works until X
[12:03] <ompaul> fergofrog, you can download it no problem but take conversations about it to thje channel #ubuntu+1
[12:03] <fergofrog> k
[12:03] <neftune> nevermind, i found the answer
[12:05] <fergofrog> how do u get the draper beta tho
[12:05] <ompaul> ugurdevriL, so that might be the projector does not do the frequencies you do, lower your resolution
[12:06] <apokryphos> fergofrog: you'll want to get the latest flight 7
[12:06] <fergofrog> what's that
[12:07] <ompaul> fergofrog, cdimage.ubuntu.com have a look in there
[12:07] <apokryphos> fergofrog: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-May/000080.html
[12:07] <Blippe> fergofrog, you change all the instances of breezy to dapper in your /etc/apt/sources.list to dapper and run any tool fr updating the software, and voila, you got dapper
[12:08] <fergofrog> kk
[12:08] <fergofrog> when is the release of the non-beta comming ut
[12:08] <fergofrog> *out
[12:09] <apokryphos> fergofrog: if you're upgrading from breezy, make sure you /msg ubotu upgrade
[12:09] <apokryphos> fergofrog: june 1st
[12:09] <ompaul> fergofrog, it was already said in the channel 1June
[12:09] <fergofrog> kk
[12:09] <fergofrog> thx
[12:09] <fergofrog> cya
[12:09] <xpc> cia
[12:16] <J_element> the boot screen in ubuntu ! HOW can i change that
[12:16] <ompaul> tumbleweed (by #ubuntu standards) well almost
[12:18] <ompaul> J_element, that is a graphic controlled by a program usplash /usr/lib/usplash the graphic is in that directory and is a sim link to usplash-default.so afit
[12:18] <ompaul> J_element, s/afit/afik
[12:19] <RayFredPip> hello, does the version of software in Syn has something to do with apt source.lst ?
[12:20] <J_element> ompaul,  how do i change it
[12:20] <RayFredPip> I have found that many softwares are not new in Syn
[12:21] <spikeb> RayFredPip: yeah, synaptic reads the source list
[12:21] <J_element> !usplash
[12:21] <ubotu> usplash is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:22] <RayFredPip> spikeb, hum,agreed .I use the source in Aisa,so tell me the newest version of Mysql in your Syn
[12:22] <RayFredPip> spikeb, *Asia
[12:24] <spikeb> RayFredPip: 5.0.19-3
[12:25] <RayFredPip> spikeb, oh,tha's not good for me ,mine is 4.1
[12:25] <spikeb> RayFredPip: i'm running beta, not stable.
[12:26] <RayFredPip> spikeb, but the 5.1 is distributed
[12:26] <RayFredPip> spikeb, 5.1 has come out
[12:26] <spikeb> RayFredPip: i meant i'm using the beta version of ubuntu
[12:28] <donvella> spikeb: dapper?
[12:28] <spikeb> donvella: yeah
[12:28] <donvella> spikeb: i find my ubuntu runs better on dapper.
[12:28] <spikeb> donvella: same here
[12:28] <donvella> spikeb: good shit
[12:29] <spikeb> donvella: otherwise i wouldn't touch the beta with a ten foot pole
[12:29] <donvella> spikeb: id touch it with my own pole
[12:29] <spikeb> haha
[12:29] <donvella> haha
[12:29] <donvella> i just gotta figure out how to bloody install my ati drivers
[12:30] <donvella> one of you niggers should help a brutha out
[12:30] <Lenny1729> hi, does anybody know what programs runs the scripts in /etc/networks/if-up.d???
[12:30] <Lenny1729> ifconfig doesnt
[12:30] <gnomefreak> donvella: how about not using that kind of language in here
[12:30] <donvella> man i need a burger
[12:36] <Sonderblade> is there a way to mount a disk image in ubuntu without being root?
[12:36] <viper666> no
[12:36] <viper666> u need to have root access
[12:36] <tony14764> Anyone know how to fix choppy DVD playback?
[12:36] <donvella> Do yourself all a favor and get The Speed Freak - Mechatronic.mp3
[12:36] <donvella> hardcore fans only
[12:36] <Sonderblade> viper666: thats stupid, i just want to mount an image in my own home directory, that shouldn't require root access
[12:37] <J_element> what is " gcc "
[12:37] <zcat[1] > Gnu C Compiler
[12:38] <tech_> aint there anything like ctrl - alt - delete here in ubuntu? you see xine want quit :P
[12:38] <donvella> tech_: you like windows?
[12:38] <J_element> what can be used as a replacement
[12:38] <bimberi> tony14764: enabling dma might help...
[12:38] <viper666> u can implement ctrl+ald+del
[12:38] <viper666> using Automatix
[12:39] <zcat[1] > ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[12:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell tony14764 about dma
[12:39] <tony14764> bimberi, It is
[12:39] <zcat[1] > !automatix
[12:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[12:39] <bimberi> tony14764: kk :|
[12:39] <viper666> lol
[12:39] <tech_> donvella: NO i hate windows i love ubuntu i were just wondering if there were any possible to quit xine cause it quit
[12:39] <tech_> *exit
[12:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> tech_, add xkill (forget its gui name) to your  pannel
[12:40] <zcat[1] > alt-F2 and type killall -9 xine
[12:40] <tony14764> bimberi, No one seems to know how to fix this. Do you play DVDs?
[12:40] <tech_> Kamping_Kaiser: Thank you :D
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> tech_, np :)
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> its in gnome-pannel applets, dont remember the name though
[12:40] <tech_> Kamping_Kaiser Xine still there :(
[12:41] <tech_> Kamping_kaiser never mind :P
[12:41] <bimberi> tony14764: no (not on PCs) sorry
[12:42] <tony14764> bimberi, TO make it worse, I have a Mac G3
[12:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> tech_, its called 'force quit' fwiw
[12:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> grr
[12:44] <gnomefreak> shoot he left
[12:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi gnomefreak
[12:46] <gnomefreak> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[12:47] <cf> Hi, I installed Flight 7 from the livecd into a vmware image. The main disk is sda and all the /dev/hdxn weren't created, and MAKEDEV hda doesn't create new devices. Any ideas ?
[12:48] <LittleFae> Hello there people.
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> cf, did you set your VM to use scsi or ide emulation?
[12:49] <cf> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm just using the player rather than the workstation version. I have the main disk as sda and I'm trying to mount an iso onto an ide cdrom
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> cf, i havent used VMware for ages, so i'm a bit at a loss. i can only give random sugestions :)
[12:49] <LittleFae> I am in need of a little, hopefully minor, assistance with Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog, and the nautilus file browser.  Namely, I don't want it to run every single time, I click on 'browse to' in an application, whilst I'm running under xfce.
[12:50] <cf> Kamping_Kaiser: I've been trying random things too, so any advice is welcome
[12:50] <cf> :P
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. cool :)
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> checked you hvae your ide hd modules loaded?
[12:50] <cf> I have just software updated
[12:50] <cf> lsmod |grep ide ?
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> or check /etc/modules as well
[12:51] <cf> ide_generic only
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi kbrooks
[12:51] <kbrooks> How exactly does this "bittorent" thing work?
[12:51] <cf> Kamping_Kaiser: /etc/modules has only comments
[12:51] <LittleFae> Is there a simple way to ensure that, at the very least, this nautilus crap doesn't take over the desktop, then?
[12:51] <spikeb> i believe the homepage has a faq
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> LittleFae, hum?
[12:52] <kbrooks> ah, found it
[12:52] <kbrooks> http://computer.howstuffworks.com/bittorrent.htm
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> kbrooks, are you being serious or jking?
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> cf ok. just a minute
[12:52] <J_element> !usplash
[12:52] <ubotu> somebody said usplash was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:52] <LittleFae> Well, I installed xfce, and, well, nautilus keeps screwing things up, whenever I try to work with xfce. :(
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> cf, load ide_disk and or ide_cd and cdrom
[12:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> :( not sure.
[12:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thought xfce used a differnt wm
[12:53] <cafuego_> it doth
[12:53] <LittleFae> :/
[12:53] <cafuego_> mebbe it's missing the xf filemanager
[12:53] <LittleFae> No, xffm is on there, as is rox.
[12:54] <cafuego_> LittleFae: Is it set to be used as default?
[12:54] <LittleFae> Thats what I'm trying to find out how to do. :p
[12:54] <LittleFae> There isn't an option, like, anywhere for it
[12:54] <cafuego_> check /etc/alternatives
[12:54] <spikeb> i tried out thunar (the new xfce file manager) and it seriously rocks
[12:55] <mustard5> spikeb, yeah, its a very attractive alternative to the old file manager :)
[12:55] <spikeb> mustard5: and rox
[12:55] <spikeb> heh
[12:55] <mustard5> spikeb, I can actually understand what I am doing with thunar
[12:55] <spikeb> mustard5: nice
[12:56] <mustard5> yeah, I just started using rox for my desktop icons yesterday
[12:56] <mustard5> didn't realise you could use it that way
[12:56] <LittleFae> Nor me
[12:56] <LittleFae> How? :)
[12:56] <mustard5> rox on xfce?
[12:57] <LittleFae> yep
[12:57] <mustard5> LittleFae, well you install rox-filer and type rox -p<somename>
[12:58] <mason_> Gday, do you know if it matters to have your real monitor name in the xorg.conf ?
[12:58] <mustard5> LittleFae, thats the basics..there is a more complex guide for making it start up when you log in
[12:58] <cafuego_> mason_: It does not.
[12:58] <mustard5> LittleFae, for example I type rox -p1
[12:58] <mustard5> LittleFae, that starts my 'desktop' icons
[12:58] <cf> Kamping_Kaiser: adding ide_disk didn't help, "cd dev; sudo MAKEDEV hda" doesn't produce any devices
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> cf, added ide_cd and cdrom?
[12:59] <calmdown> im having trouble with Failed to fetch sudo apt-get
[12:59] <mustard5> LittleFae, using rox, you won't be able to use the 'desktop menu' as that will exist underneath rox
[12:59] <calmdown> i keep recvn this error Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[12:59] <mason_> cafuego_: Ohh, well then.. back to trying to figure out why my nvidia drivers arent working, it X server fails then says "Found screens, none useable .. no screens found" ? when i change 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> calmdown, try a different mirror
[12:59] <mustard5> LittleFae, so no more right clicking on desktop for the menu
[01:00] <calmdown> but if i use wget --noproxy http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found it downloads
[01:00] <cafuego_> mason_: Did you install both the kernel and X drivers?
[01:00] <LittleFae> Thats not a prob. :)
[01:00] <mason_> cafuego_: yeah, i followed this tute http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Ubuntu_NVIDIA_proprietary_display_driver_installation_using_NVIDIA's_installer
[01:00] <cafuego_> mason_: Oh, you didn't use the packages? I can't help then.
[01:01] <mustard5> LittleFae, I was a litte disappointed with that part at first, but I've gotten over it.  It's nice to have some icons on my desktop.  You can't create files on desktop either.  You basically drag them from a folder onto desktop
[01:02] <mason_> cafuego_: Sorry, im just begun using ubuntu, 'i didnt use the packages?' the way i tried didnt work, do you know somewhere i can read up on how to install with packages
[01:02] <mustard5> I'm curious how you would stop rox actually without just killing the process, so that I could switch it on and off easily
[01:02] <mason_> 'ive
[01:02] <LittleFae> Not something I mind, so long as I can avoid that gdm garbage
[01:02] <calmdown> Kamping_Kaiser, I have tried diff mirrors, still same error
[01:03] <cf> Kamping_Kaiser: ide-cd has a Unknown Symbol error. Perhaps this is an i686 kernel problem, I should try i386 too
[01:03] <cf> cdrom doesn't help
[01:03] <mustard5> LittleFae, I've been trying a few lightweight desktops lately.  Fluxbox, openbox, enlightenment
[01:03] <LittleFae> I've, unfortunately, come to really hate gdm over the past month, hence my permanenet switch to xfce
[01:03] <mustard5> LittleFae, blackbox I should say
[01:03] <mustard5> LittleFae, hehe
[01:03] <cafuego_> mason_: The nvidia stuff is all precompiled for use on Ubuntu. First step now is to get rid of whatever the nvidia installer pu on your system.
[01:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> calmdown, can you pastebin your sources list thanks?
[01:03] <LittleFae> Though I er, did try xpde, which was fun
[01:04] <calmdown> Kamping_Kaiser, oh sure thing!
[01:04] <cf> Kamping_Kaiser: urgh, should have used modprobe rather than insmod
[01:04] <mustard5> LittleFae, yeah, xfce has been more of an experiment for me, as I'm actually using it on a debian etch install, not xubuntu (although I have xubuntu installed as well)
[01:04] <cafuego_> mason_: Thn you want: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx'
[01:04] <gnomefreak> what is the update-grub command? :(
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> calmdown, thanks
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> cf,  :S
[01:04] <LittleFae> If I could get xubuntu to actually install, I would, and save myself so much hassle.
[01:04] <bitotob> ubuntu cannot detect my DHCP server
[01:04] <cf> <--- noobie
[01:04] <siccness> Hey guys, I know this question has probably been asked a million times, but how do you get ati x-series cards to work on ubuntu (breezy badger)?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> nm thats it
[01:04] <bitotob> what should I do about this
[01:04] <mason_> cafuego_: i installed "CC=gcc-3.4 sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8756-pkg2.run
[01:04] <mustard5> gnomefreak, update-grub isnt it?
[01:05] <metallitux> siccness, ati is a real pain on linux
[01:05] <spikeb> LittleFae: you can use a text-mode install cd to do it
[01:05] <cafuego_> mason_: Yes, evil. bad. naughty.
[01:05] <siccness> metallitux, yeah, if only I had looked that up before purchasing the card.
[01:05] <LittleFae> So I'm told, but the issue is with the drive, not the disk. :)
[01:05] <mason_> cafuego_:  Yes, :D
[01:05] <cafuego_> mason_: That may or may not have an uninstaller.
[01:05] <spikeb> heh
[01:05] <mustard5> LittleFae, I would recommend starting from a server install and building it up with a netinstall using apt-get
[01:06] <mustard5> LittleFae, ah ok
[01:06] <metallitux> which ubuntu are you running?
[01:06] <mason_> cafuego_: how can i find out?
[01:06] <siccness> 5.10 BB
[01:06] <LittleFae> It doesn't read CD-RWs
[01:06] <spikeb> hmm
[01:06] <bitotob> ubuntu cannot detect my DHCP server so I cant connect the internet, anyone know how to fix this?
[01:06] <spikeb> LittleFae: do you have an ubuntu cd somewhere that the drive can read?
[01:06] <metallitux> siccness which card?
[01:06] <mason_> bitotob: assign a ip address
[01:06] <siccness> x1300 Pro
[01:07] <mustard5> LittleFae, ah ok, so you going to burn on a different media ?
[01:07] <LittleFae> Yes, Hory Hedghog
[01:07] <cafuego_> mason_: try 'sh ./NV.....run --help' or somesuch
[01:07] <calmdown> I posted my mirror list
[01:07] <cafuego_> mason_: .. and rememebr to edit that wiki to tell people to not do what it suggests <heh>
[01:07] <phoenix__> hey ppl, i'm using ubuntu and i need a cd burning program what and were should i get
[01:08] <bitotob> ive done that but that doesn't work either....it only lets me asign the if say its a static ip but my isp relicenses my ip every 20 mins
[01:08] <metallitux> siccness, go here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[01:08] <calmdown> phoenix: its on their web site
[01:08] <spikeb> LittleFae: does hoary have an option to install just the server?
[01:08] <mustard5> phoenix__, well you could try gnomebaker or k3b (both via synaptic)
[01:08] <mason_> cafuego_: Ahahha, Yes, Will do,
[01:08] <LittleFae> Yep
[01:08] <spikeb> LittleFae: then you _can_ install xubuntu
[01:08] <phoenix__> so do i just go to ubuntu.com and search for burning software???
[01:08] <mustard5> phoenix__, are you on windows?
[01:08] <LittleFae> But it's all levels of hell, trying to get it to recognize my wif-fi card
[01:08] <metallitux> Anyone wanna help me with an X problem?
[01:09] <mustard5> metallitux, depends what it is :)
[01:10] <metallitux> mustard5, on my gdm/kdm/xdm screen snd in anything that is not gnome or kde as a desktop, i cant get my screen size right
[01:10] <mason_> cafuego_: --help doesnt give me a uninstall option
[01:10] <siccness> metallitux, thanks mate, ill have to give it a try!
[01:10] <metallitux> mustard5, the desktop is bigger than my monitor
[01:10] <mason_> cafuego_: but does give me "  -A, --advanced-options
[01:10] <mason_>       Print usage information for the common commandline options
[01:10] <mason_>       as well as the advanced options, and then exit"
[01:11] <J_element> any one familiar with this command
[01:11] <J_element> gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.o -o yourimage-splash.so
[01:11] <mustard5> metallitux, hehe...sounds like a funky problem :)
[01:11] <mustard5> metallitux, laptop or desktop machine?
[01:11] <spikeb> LittleFae: i have two suggestions: order a shipit cd when they're ready for dapper, or get a new drive :)
[01:11] <metallitux> mustard5, all i was trying to do was install xubuntu-desktop to replace gnome
[01:12] <metallitux> mustard5, desktop
[01:12] <LittleFae> Still waiting for my breezy cd :P
[01:12] <mustard5> metallitux, so how did you go about that?
[01:12] <spikeb> LittleFae: hahaha
[01:12] <metallitux> mustard5, i did it through synaptic cause i was feeling lazy
[01:12] <mason_> cafuego_: if i am to run 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx' will it uninstall the nvidia drivers?
[01:12] <mustard5> metallitux, that should work though
[01:13] <J_element> is there a graphical software that edits the USPLASH
[01:13] <mustard5> metallitux, anything strange happen at that time?
[01:13] <bitotob> Might as well ask again in case someone didn't see it. Ubuntu can't detect my dhcp server. What do I do about this?
[01:13] <spikeb> shoot the server
[01:13] <mustard5> bitotob, that sucks :)
[01:13] <cafuego_> mason_: No, it will probably overwrite *some* of the existing files, which may or may not cause problems.
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> bitotob, if you give it an address by hand can ubuntu get out
[01:13] <metallitux> mustard5, no, i even have an xubuntu splash
[01:14] <mustard5> metallitux, so what have you done so far to attempt to fix it?
[01:14] <bitotob> Kamping: no
[01:14] <mason_> cafuego_: In that case, ill just continue to hit it :P
[01:14] <lodravah> Hello, I'm having problems
[01:14] <lodravah> http://theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/./Packages.gz
[01:14] <metallitux> mustard5, i went through and checked xorg.conf, which i still think is at fault here
[01:15] <metallitux> nvidia drivers dont allow me any way to fix the problem either
[01:15] <lodravah> http://theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/./Packages.gz is a dead link in terminal
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> bitotob, first things - are you sure the cable is ok+plugged in?
[01:15] <bitotob> Kamping: If I set the ip to static and put in the DNS, IP, ect it still does not work
[01:15] <mustard5> metallitux, have you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[01:15] <bitotob> its a dual boot
[01:15] <metallitux> mustard5, nope, been a long day and i forgot all about it
[01:15] <bitotob> im using the windows on the same machine right now
[01:15] <bilford> Hello.  I messed up my Ubuntu.  When I double click a folder icon, it opens up a window asking what to play
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> lodravah, where did you get tht link?
[01:15] <mustard5> metallitux, best to shut gdm down first too
[01:15] <mustard5> metallitux, you know how to do that?
[01:15] <bilford> Instead of opening Konqueror, it opens a small window asking to play the folder
[01:15] <metallitux> mustard5, yeah
[01:15] <lodravah> um.. think easylinux.com or something
[01:15] <metallitux> do i want to be root?
[01:16] <mustard5> metallitux, you might want to get a good command line IRC client too :)
[01:16] <metallitux> got one
[01:16] <metallitux> have irssi
[01:16] <mustard5> metallitux, no..just log in as a user
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> lodravah, try http://theli.free.fr/packages/ and look
[01:16] <mason_> cafuego_: on a side note, do you know how to use a 'path' in the explorer window, not those buttons of the foldernames?
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> it has a 'breezy_obselete' dir
[01:16] <mustard5> metallitux, k..  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop in virtual terminal...cya in command line irssi ;)
[01:16] <calmdown> i hate apt-get now
[01:16] <spikeb> im sure apt-get hates you too
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> calmdown, :(
[01:17] <profe> ola!!!!
[01:17] <bitotob> Kamping: yes the cable is plugged in and the connection is working with windows xp
[01:17] <gnomefreak> calmdown: use aptitude than ;)
[01:17] <profe> are you english??
[01:17] <profe> capullo
[01:17] <gnomefreak> profe: yes spanish is at #ubuntu-es
[01:17] <lodravah> ok, the link works
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> bitotob, if you run "lspci |grep Eth" do you get anything?
[01:17] <lodravah> what do I download from here?
[01:18] <profe> please answer me
[01:18] <cafuego_> profe: no
[01:18] <bitotob> Kamping: I'm not sure what you mean?
[01:18] <mustard5> profe, what are you asking?
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> bitotob, open a terminal and run that command (copy paste if you want)
[01:18] <zukero> i'm having issues with synaptic, I use the same sources.list and proxy config than one of the other user of my network, but i can't download anything, nor refresh the list...
[01:18] <calmdown> spikeb: oh apt-get does hate me now.
[01:18] <LittleFae> Is the eth0 activated?
[01:18] <cafuego_> mustard5: whether or not we're english
[01:18] <zukero> using Dapper
[01:18] <mason_> Does anyone know how to use a 'path' in the explorer window, not those buttons for each foldername?
[01:18] <profe> this is an english page??
[01:18] <mustard5> cafuego, ah ok
[01:18] <calmdown> no hindu
[01:19] <bitotob> Kampig: I have to reboot to linux to do that
[01:19] <mustard5> cafuego, does being Australian count?
[01:19] <LittleFae> No monsieur, c'est European
[01:19] <mustard5> :)
[01:19] <zukero> mason_ : ctrl+l
[01:19] <profe> heyyyyyyyy
[01:19] <cafuego_> this is not a page ;-)
[01:19] <kbrooks> i want bittornado. how do i replace the gnome bittorent client with bittornado?
[01:19] <LittleFae> Ah, bonne
[01:19] <profe> what is this??
[01:19] <cafuego_> mustard5: of course not
[01:19] <spikeb> heh in #debian there used to be a command to give apt a scooby snack :)
[01:19] <mustard5> profe, this is the ubuntu support channel
[01:19] <cafuego_> !botsnack
[01:19] <ubotu> :)
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> kbrooks, its in apt
[01:19] <spikeb> yes
[01:19] <kaning> anyone knows how i can get wxPython for dapper drake
[01:19] <mason_> zukero: anyway to make it stay like that?
[01:19] <profe> but is english??
[01:19] <spikeb> cafuego :)
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> how to 'replace' i dont know
[01:20] <mustard5> profe, yes this is english only..do you need another language?
[01:20] <cafuego_> profe: The language used in here is english, yes.
[01:20] <LittleFae> Yep, we're English.  Mixed in with geek-speak
[01:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> try 'open with -> other application' then select bittornado, and 'always'
[01:20] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-es is for spanish profe
[01:20] <profe> oh!!! im spanish
[01:20] <zukero> mason_ : heard so.. but seemed boring
[01:20] <cafuego_> !es
[01:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:20] <bilford> Anyone know how to restore the association for folders so when I double click a folder, it opens Konqueror instead of trying to play it?  I messed up the association somehwo
[01:20] <spikeb> hmm
[01:20] <master_> mustard5: this is metalliux
[01:20] <mustard5> mason_, welcome back
[01:20] <spikeb> apparently ubotu doesn't care about botsnacks
[01:20] <mustard5> master_, welcome back
[01:21] <kaning> does anyone know how i can get wxPython for dapper drake?
[01:21] <profe> bye bye
[01:21] <calmdown> hm
[01:21] <mason_> zukero: Thanks anyway, this will prove usefull
[01:21] <calmdown> kia, thanks for the tip
[01:21] <kbrooks> Kamping_Kaiser: HIGHLIGHT ME
[01:21] <LittleFae> !botsnack
[01:21] <ubotu> thanks littlefae :)
[01:21] <calmdown> kam, thanks for the tip
[01:21] <mason_> mustard5: ? me?
[01:21] <calmdown> kampin, thanks for the tip
[01:21] <calmdown> UGH
[01:21] <mustard5> mason_, typo on autocomplete ;)
[01:21] <LittleFae> You're welcome ubotu
[01:21] <master_> mustard5: what was that command again?
[01:21] <spikeb> ahhh
[01:21] <spikeb> does it in a message
[01:21] <mason_> :D
[01:21] <mustard5> master_, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:22] <calmdown> but i need someones working /etc/apt/sources.list  please
[01:22] <master_> mustard5: i have that one
[01:22] <mustard5> master_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:22] <kaning> does anyone know how i can get wxPython for dapper drake?
[01:22] <LittleFae> Does ubotu do anything else, amusing perhaps?
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell calmdown about sources
[01:23] <kaning> does anyone know how i can get wxPython for dapper drake?
[01:23] <mustard5> kaning, not me
[01:23] <spikeb> it's in universe
[01:24] <kaning> thank you mustard5 for the response
[01:24] <kaning> spikeb did you mean universe for wxPython or was that for someone else
[01:24] <kbrooks> how do i open the bittornado GUI
[01:24] <mustard5> kaning, I think he means you
[01:24] <cafuego_> LittleFae: ubotu can do many amusing things
[01:24] <kaning> thanks
[01:25] <mustard5> kaning, thats how I'm reading it anyway :)
[01:25] <spikeb> kaning: that was for you
[01:25] <spikeb> !botsnack
[01:25] <ubotu> :)
[01:25] <cafuego_> LittleFae: He's not meant for abuse on busy channels, though ;-)
[01:25] <kbrooks> how do i open the bittornado GUI
[01:25] <LittleFae> Where can I get one, cafuego_?
[01:25] <spikeb> a botsnack?
[01:25] <lucas> hi
[01:25] <LittleFae> I love bots. :D
[01:25] <cafuego_> LittleFae: sudo apt-get install blootbot
[01:25] <mason_> Is anyone here looking for a aweosme xmms theme?!?
[01:26] <mustard5> kbrooks, I'm wondering whether it autostarts when you click on the torrent file
[01:26] <mason_> 'awesome
[01:26] <spikeb> i'd settle for one that made xmms usable
[01:26] <mustard5> kbrooks, I can't remember now
[01:26] <lucas> what's the ubuntu way of running ssh-add during login ? I've set SSH_ASKPASS in .gnomerc, but ssh-agent is started after .gnomerc is parsed, so I can't start ssh-add in .gnomerc
[01:26] <mustard5> kbrooks, I know when I start them in firefox, it shows me some options for what to use
[01:26] <mason_> One of the only 2, on deviant art ;) http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/29516015/
[01:27] <mustard5> kbrooks, I'm not on ubuntu unfortunately atm
[01:27] <LittleFae> I'd just settle for a decent mp3 player
[01:27] <metallitux> mustard5, thanks, now in blackbox with exactly what i wanted!
[01:28] <mustard5> metallitux, heh..well that was easy!
[01:28] <spikeb> define decent mp3 player
[01:28] <kbrooks> okay
[01:28] <LittleFae> Well, AmaroK is the closest, so far.
[01:28] <LittleFae> I'm very much an iTunes person.
[01:29] <mason_> iTunes had its moment
[01:29] <spikeb> amarok is interesting from a features standpoint
[01:29] <metallitux> mustard5, i really did miss something trivial.
[01:29] <cafuego_> LittleFae: rhythmbox talks to iTunes shares.. ? :-)
[01:29] <mustard5> metallitux, yeah?
[01:29] <LittleFae> I like my library to be listed and kept organised and neat.  Drag-n-Drop playlists, quick-burning, podcasts. ...
[01:29] <LittleFae> In short: iTunes for Linux would be perfect. :D
[01:29] <mason_> ^ second that
[01:30] <siccness> i still cant get damn ati to work
[01:30] <spikeb> what you described is rhythmbox
[01:30] <kaning> i have tried and i still use rythmbox and banshee
[01:30] <spikeb> heh
[01:30] <LittleFae> Doesn't play protected AAC music though. :p
[01:30] <LittleFae> And I have shed-loads
[01:30] <spikeb> nothing does aside from itunes
[01:30] <mustard5> siccness, you tried looking over the ubuntuforums for someone with the same card?
[01:30] <LittleFae> Hence my desire for iTunes/Linux. :D
[01:30] <siccness> yea
[01:30] <spikeb> LittleFae: break the protection :)
[01:31] <siccness> ive been over about 10 forums
[01:31] <cafuego_> LittleFae: It does, you just need to remove Apple's DRM.
[01:31] <mustard5> siccness, how did others fair?
[01:31] <siccness> all point me to the same thread
[01:31] <spikeb> cafuego_:  that is no longer a protected AAC file :P
[01:31] <mustard5> siccness, got link?
[01:31] <siccness> sure do
[01:31] <mustard5> siccness, what model is it again?
[01:31] <siccness> hang on a sec
[01:31] <spikeb> LittleFae: that is what i do (or did, until itunes 6 came out)
[01:31] <siccness> x1300 pro
[01:31] <mustard5> siccness, k
[01:31] <cafuego_> spikeb: Correct. But due to DMCA it will never play those.
[01:31] <josh0001> When do you guys think XGL will be finished and implemented on a stable build into ubuntu?
[01:32] <siccness> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:32] <mustard5> siccness, k
[01:32] <cafuego_> josh0001: mid-2007, no sooner.
[01:32] <spikeb> cafuego banshee could with a proprietary plugin :)
[01:32] <siccness> and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[01:32] <kaning> i dont think xgl will be put in there
[01:32] <kaning> i think it will always be an optional thing
[01:32] <calmdown> kamping, thanks for the url, still no luck
[01:32] <spikeb> i think it will be in edgy
[01:32] <josh0001> kaning,  it will help windows users switch, big time!
[01:32] <mustard5> siccness, can you pastebin any relevant errors from your Xorg.0.log?
[01:32] <LittleFae> I've a damned difficult Q for you all. :D
[01:32] <spikeb> and it might be a disaster and yanked out from edgy+1
[01:32] <LittleFae> How can I play MIDI in Ubuntu? :)
[01:33] <siccness> nope, cuz i cant get into it
[01:33] <spikeb> LittleFae: btw, there is a way to buy music from itunes store on linux. but it does NOT apply DRM to the completed files.
[01:33] <kaning> timidity does midis well Littlefae
[01:33] <kbrooks> LittleFae: install easyubunu
[01:33] <mustard5> siccness, hmmm..you got a usb drive?
[01:33] <siccness> nah
[01:33] <LittleFae> Easyubunu? o.o
[01:33] <mustard5> siccness, bummer
[01:33] <siccness> see, what happens is it crashes on boot
[01:33] <metallitux> mustard5, give him damn small linux
[01:33] <spikeb> DSL rocks
[01:33] <siccness> and drops me on command line
[01:34] <kbrooks> LittleFae: er, nm
[01:34] <mason_> Well, um.. this is quite embarrasing, where to i extract the xmms theme to? *dont-hit-me-shrug*
[01:34] <spikeb> LittleFae: just install a midi player :)
[01:34] <metallitux> siccness, did you backup your xorg.conf?
[01:34] <mustard5> siccness, k..so does it work with 'vesa' drivers?
[01:34] <cafuego_> LittleFae: install a midi player, double-click the file
[01:34] <siccness> sure did, metallitux.
[01:35] <siccness> vesa drivers?
[01:35] <kaning> i came across the quote i'm sure you'll find it interesting
[01:35] <kaning> All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
[01:35] <mustard5> siccness, when you get to command line do this command  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:35] <metallitux> siccness, whats the name of your backup and where did you put it?
[01:35] <mustard5> siccness, then choose the 'vesa' drivers..when prompted to choose drivers
[01:35] <kbrooks> OK
[01:35] <siccness> like everytime i try to type one of the commands, it either says "Package not installed" "Latest installed"
[01:35] <spikeb> LittleFae: did you have any interest in continuing to buy things from the itunes music store, using linux?
[01:35] <kbrooks> How do I share a ISO w/ bittorrent?
[01:36] <mustard5> siccness, sounds like your install has completed then if you don't have xorg
[01:36] <mustard5> siccness, hasn't completed I meant to say
[01:36] <siccness> hmm
[01:36] <mustard5> siccness, just try that command and tell me what it says if you can
[01:36] <siccness> ill try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:36] <mustard5> siccness, k
[01:36] <siccness> i gotta reboot (cuz it's dual boot) :)
[01:37] <mustard5> siccness, wait
[01:37] <siccness> okies
[01:37] <mustard5> siccness, are you online when you drop to command line?
[01:37] <siccness> Nope
[01:37] <mustard5> siccness, what type of connection?
[01:37] <kbrooks> How do I share a ISO w/ bittorrent?
[01:37] <kbrooks> How do I share a ISO w/ bittorrent?
[01:37] <siccness> Broadband but requires login program to connect
[01:37] <mason_> repetition = rape
[01:38] <kbrooks> mason_: ..
[01:38] <josh0001> kbrooks,  you need to make the torrent file yourself using azureus for example, then register it on a tracker.
[01:38] <mason_> :P
[01:38] <mason_> kbrooks: sorry i dont know
[01:38] <kbrooks> josh0001: uh...
[01:38] <mustard5> siccness, ah ok bummer...ok..well do the reconfigure thing..choose defaults for all the questions you don't know the answers to..and when it comes to drivers, choose the 'vesa' drivers
[01:38] <siccness> ok, thanks mate
[01:38] <siccness> back soon
[01:39] <bitotob> Is 512MB a small amount for a swap space?
[01:39] <mustard5> bitotob, how much RAM do you have?
[01:40] <LittleFae> Mine is, er, massive. o.x
[01:40] <LittleFae> <--- 1gb swap
[01:40] <cafuego_> bitotob: Nah, that's average.
[01:40] <RayFredPip> hello,what is cyclone which I found in Syn
[01:40] <chamo> hello
[01:41] <cafuego_> bitotob: You don't want to overdo it, waiting for 1GB of swap to fill up whilst crashing gets very tedious
[01:41] <Nihil_85> hi! can aybody tell my if it's better an Intel Pentium D 930 or a 830?The first one is a dual core with separate cores and 2x2mb of cache, the second one has the cores on the same silicius and 2mb shared.
[01:41] <cafuego_> Yay, terry's on
[01:42] <LittleFae> Well, i figured, less RAM, more swap. :o
[01:42] <RayFredPip> hello,what is cyclone which I found in Syn?
[01:42] <cafuego_> !info cyclone
[01:42] <LittleFae> Since I have, only, about 64MB ram max, I needed more swap. :S
[01:42] <cafuego_> LittleFae: _slow_
[01:42] <kaning> does anyone have gaim 2 running on drake?
[01:43] <RayFredPip> cafuego, cyclone - tornado screen saver
[01:43] <RayFredPip> cafuego, right ?
[01:43] <RayFredPip> !info cyclone
[01:43] <spikeb> Nihil_85: they both suck heh
[01:43] <cafuego_> 's not in breezy
[01:43] <cafuego_> Nihil_85: Shiny amd64 X2!
[01:43] <LittleFae> Also have resierfs on all other disks too, since I was told its better for laptops
[01:44] <cafuego_> LittleFae: you were told by a liar
[01:44] <LittleFae> Oh
[01:44] <RayFredPip> cafuego, oh? but I typed man cyclone ,there is a doc
[01:44] <kbrooks> cafuego: and you mean?
[01:44] <valehru> lo
[01:44] <cafuego_> kbrooks: reiser is not "better for laptops"
[01:44] <Nihil_85> cafuego, spikeb: Intel doesn't suck and it's heavily cheaper that AMD
[01:44] <valehru> how can I get an application to startup on boot?
[01:44] <RayFredPip> anyone who knows cyclone ?
[01:44] <cafuego_> Nihil_85: Not where I live, by a country mile.
[01:45] <spikeb> Nihil_85: i did not say intel sucked. i said both of the processors mentioned sucked (and they do)
[01:45] <LittleFae> Well, thats what I was told to do, to make Ubuntu run fast on my 333Mhz
[01:45] <kbrooks> cafuego: what FS is "better" for laptops?
[01:45] <kbrooks> LittleFae: told by who?
[01:45] <kbrooks> LittleFae: what site? link
[01:45] <cafuego_> kbrooks:ext2, which has no journaling and thus allows disks to spin down
[01:45] <LittleFae> A friend pointed me to the reiserFS site, so I read the good stuff ther.
[01:45] <kbrooks> LittleFae: OK, I'll look
[01:46] <LittleFae> www.reiserfs.org
[01:46] <Nihil_85> cafuego: here in Italy, there's a great difference in price between Intel and AMD
[01:46] <cafuego_> Nihil_85: Here in Australia as well. AMD is a *lot* cheaper.
[01:46] <bilford> I just installed Ubuntu today, after someone took control of my computer with Windows
[01:46] <Nihil_85> spikeb: so wich is a processor that doesn't suck?
[01:46] <valehru> is there a graphical gnome utility that can add delete programs from when a user logs into X Windows, i.e. start up gaim when the user logs in automatically?
[01:46] <spikeb> Nihil_85: if you want a good dual core processor, then you want core duo or core 2 duo
[01:46] <bilford> Windows Remote ASsistance feature was a disaster waiting to happen
[01:46] <valehru> Nihil85, AMD 64 is pretty good
[01:47] <LittleFae> Here's the quote from that site: ReiserFS has fast journaling, which means that you don't spend your life waiting for fsck every time your laptop battery dies, or the UPS for your mission critical server gets its batteries disconnected accidentally by the UPS company's service crew, or your kernel was not as ready for prime time as you hoped, or the silly thing decides you mounted it too many times today.
[01:47] <spikeb> he wants dual core, and intel's dual core's spank at the moment
[01:47] <selinium> Seveas: Have you got a deb for skype dapper?
[01:47] <spikeb> heh
[01:47] <Nihil_85> spikeb: Pentium D is dual core
[01:47] <kbrooks> LittleFae: did you missell? http://www.reiserfs.org/
[01:47] <cafuego_> selinium: Just install the breezy deb
[01:47] <spikeb> Nihil_85: i know this. the pentium D also sucks hard.
[01:47] <LittleFae> I guessed, and incorrectly
[01:47] <spikeb> Nihil_85: core duo is the product name.
[01:47] <Nihil_85> valehru: I know that a lot of people like AMD, but it's too much expensive
[01:47] <kbrooks> LittleFae: fast journalling does not make ubuntu "faster"
[01:47] <LittleFae> Didn't say it did.
[01:48] <gnomefreak> did anyone else get the boot splash symlink method to work for them and how i made the symlink and updated grub rebooted and nothing
[01:48] <selinium> cafuego_ ok, you logged in twice? :)
[01:48] <LittleFae> I said it claimed to be better for laptops
[01:48] <valehru> not for me in China....its like electronic geek paradise
[01:48] <cafuego_> selinium: yeh, office & living room
[01:48] <kbrooks> LittleFae: it isnt
[01:48] <kbrooks> guys talking AMD vs intel: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:48] <Nihil_85> spikeb: core duo is only for Mac... the 64bit dual core of Intel is named Pentium D
[01:48] <kbrooks> guys talking AMD vs intel: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:48] <LittleFae> So you said :)  I dunno, can't tell, and am at a loss
[01:48] <cafuego_> LittleFae: The thing with advice from people about their own product.. ;-)
[01:49] <cafuego_> LittleFae: That said, if you've already got installed, go with it.
[01:49] <spikeb> Nihil_85: no, it is NOT only for mac, and 64bitness is irrelevent
[01:49] <valehru> anyhow....is there a gui that can add startup services in ubuntu?
[01:49] <valehru> cant see it in the menus
[01:49] <Nihil_85> valehru: better to live in a free country and pay a lot for electronic stuff, than to live in a regime :D
[01:49] <kbrooks> valehru: bum, yes
[01:49] <spikeb> Nihil_85: the pentium product line is dead (and good riddance)
[01:49] <valehru> thx
[01:49] <LittleFae> Er, Pentium D isn't 64-bit, at least not completely.
[01:49] <cafuego_> Nihil_85: Pleas ekeep politice off the channel, thanks.
[01:49] <cafuego_> politics too
[01:50] <LittleFae> If it is, it suffers the same flaws as it's original predecessor. :D
[01:50] <kbrooks> guys talking "politics": #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:50] <valehru> kbrooks, bum?
[01:50] <Nihil_85> spikeb: so here in italy there's not this core duo. THey sell only pentium D. Why?
[01:50] <valehru> is that the app?
[01:50] <kbrooks> valehru: its on the ubuntu forums
[01:50] <valehru> can't see it in the synaptic manager
[01:50] <spikeb> Nihil_85: probably demand, the core duo isn't very popular yet
[01:50] <LittleFae> Pentium-D /is/ dual coare, different name.
[01:50] <kbrooks> valehru: search google "bootup manager site:ubuntuforums.org"
[01:50] <LittleFae> *core
[01:51] <valehru> doh...thx
[01:51] <cafuego_> LittleFae: diffeernt internal arch, no?
[01:51] <spikeb> core duo is the name of a product.
[01:51] <LittleFae> Apple want to distance themself from PC's, but their chips are also the same as intel pentium-d chips
[01:51] <siccness> :(
[01:51] <Nihil_85> spikeb: so i can choose from: Pentium D, Amd 64 and Amd64 X2. what should i choose? You must consider that AMD costs 20%more than Intel
[01:51] <siccness> Still no luck
[01:51] <cafuego_> LittleFae: no, Intel itself dropped he name "pentium".
[01:51] <spikeb> LittleFae: wrong. pentium D is not core duo. core duo is a product name, not a tech spec
[01:51] <kbrooks> valehru: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=75
[01:52] <spikeb> Nihil_85: probably the amd64 x2, unless money matters a lot
[01:52] <spikeb> dual core = tech spec core duo = product name
[01:52] <LittleFae> Intel's site claims that Pentium-D is a dual Core pentium.  Duo-Core Apple, has the same internal workings as a dual Pentium.  Make your own determination
[01:52] <spikeb> pentium D = dual core P4, core duo = dual core pentium M based
[01:52] <spikeb> LittleFae: it does not.
[01:53] <cafuego_> Nihil_85: Keep in mind that a 2.2GHz amd64 is probably as fast (if not faster than) a Pentium D 2.8GHz
[01:53] <siccness> Opteron ftw!
[01:53] <Nihil_85> cafuego: i will trust you
[01:53] <cafuego_> Nihil_85: So you can't compare on equal speed = equal price
[01:53] <kbrooks> ummm
[01:54] <kbrooks> guys talking pentimum/amd: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:54] <LittleFae> All academic to me, anyway, since I use an iBook G3, and a Powermac Dal-G5.
[01:54] <kbrooks> grrr
[01:54] <cafuego_> Nihil_85: Don't, maybe read up a bit more, check some benchmarks.
[01:54] <spikeb> haha
[01:55] <Nihil_85> spikeb: you can't use a pentium M (mobile, like centrino) in a desktop machine, i think
[01:55] <mustard5> siccness, ?
[01:55] <Nihil_85> pentium M is good for those little mac
[01:55] <siccness> No luck :|
[01:55] <siccness> Reconfigured it, but still wouldn't work
[01:55] <mustard5> siccness, what happened?
[01:55] <kbrooks> cafuego_: this subject is NOT on topic'
[01:55] <mustard5> siccness, what did it do?
[01:55] <spikeb> i want to respond, damn it
[01:55] <spikeb> but, i can't. :)
[01:55] <siccness> Same thing originally, tried to get into linux gui
[01:55] <cafuego_> kbrooks: correct
[01:56] <mustard5> siccness, error messages?
[01:56] <siccness> but smacked me back into commandline because of x error: no screen found
[01:56] <mustard5> siccness, no screen found hey hmmm
[01:56] <siccness> yeah im puzzled man
[01:56] <Nihil_85> spikeb: that was only what i thought, maybe not what's true
[01:56] <mustard5> siccness, so that was definitely with 'vesa'?
[01:56] <LittleFae> I assume you could see this message on a screen? :)
[01:56] <siccness> no questions came up with vesa
[01:56] <spikeb> hgehe
[01:56] <LittleFae> Not using, say, a wide-carriage printer? :)
[01:56] <mustard5> siccness, ah ok..well you must have missed it then..
[01:56] <siccness> Nah
[01:56] <cafuego_> Nihil_85: Have a look at tomshardware, see if you can find some stats.
[01:56] <siccness> I did it twice
[01:56] <mustard5> siccness, its in the part where you choose the driver
[01:56] <siccness> because I didn't see it the first time
[01:57] <Nihil_85> cafuego, thanks
[01:57] <mustard5> siccness, what driver did you choose then?
[01:57] <LittleFae> I control my Ubuntu box via remote from my mobile phone, for giggles, thats like running on a printer.
[01:57] <siccness> None, no question related to drivers appeared.
[01:57] <valehru> gah...My repos are all screwed up...i keep getting errors when I start up synaptic..
[01:57] <valehru> has anyone got a sample repo file I could use?
[01:57] <mustard5> siccness, that doesnt make sense really
[01:58] <siccness> You're telling me :)
[01:58] <mustard5> siccness, I've used it hundreds of times and its always there :)
[01:58] <siccness> I can swear on my life, heh
[01:58] <siccness> My other option is to try another distro (UGH!)
[01:58] <LittleFae> doesn't xorgcfg help?
[01:58] <LittleFae> Did it on my brothers machine, and BAM, worked fine
[01:58] <anto9us> ubotu tell valehru about easysource
[01:58] <mustard5> siccness, ok..well thats how to get around the problem for now, so I guess you are out of options soz
[01:59] <mustard5> siccness, I'm heading back to the tv..good luck with it
[01:59] <LittleFae> That was under.. er.. Mandriva, but I think all Linuxes use x
[01:59] <siccness> mustard5, yeah, it's all good. Thanks mate
[01:59] <siccness> Much appreciated for your help.
[01:59] <mustard5> siccness, np
[01:59] <kbrooks> siccness:
[01:59] <siccness> yeah mate?
[01:59] <kbrooks> siccness: use vesa
[01:59] <kbrooks> siccness: edit your xorg.conf
[02:00] <kbrooks> LittleFae: all GUI based linux distributions do use X :-)
[02:00] <spikeb> how well are the intel mac minis and imacs supported?
[02:00] <kbrooks> LittleFae: it's the standard
[02:00] <siccness> kbrooks, so i do vi xorg.conf find drivers somewhere and replaced whatevers there with the word 'vesa'
[02:00] <siccness> ?
[02:01] <cafuego_> spikeb: All hardware in the ppc macmini works these days
[02:01] <cafuego_> spikeb: Dunno about the intel ones
[02:01] <spikeb> cafuego_:  i know the ppc ones are fine, i have one :)
[02:01] <kbrooks> siccness: Driver "..." in device section
[02:01] <cafuego_> Though not running Ubuntu anymore
[02:01] <spikeb> cafuego_:  interested in the info about the intel ones because i want one :)
[02:01] <siccness> ah ok
[02:01] <siccness> kbrooks, just one small and possibly stupid question
[02:01] <LittleFae> Dual booting is a hassle
[02:02] <siccness> how do i save and quit the file?
[02:02] <LittleFae> Yaboot messed up my mac, twice
[02:02] <kbrooks> siccness: device section is obviously marked
[02:03] <muszek> hi
[02:03] <siccness> Yeah, I should find the driver bit easy
[02:03] <siccness> but if I use the vi editor
[02:03] <muszek> quick and lame question: is there any command that could tell me what distro and which version I'm running?
[02:03] <siccness> i thought the command was just :wq
[02:03] <spikeb> siccness: hit esc, then type :zz
[02:03] <siccness> thanks mate
[02:03] <cafuego_> :x :wq :ZZ
[02:04] <kbrooks> :-)
[02:05] <Nihil_85> spikeb: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/04/24/dual_core_intel_processors_for_low/page3.html <--- here you can see that core duo's not available on desktop systems.
[02:05] <Nihil_85> i was in right :D
[02:06] <spikeb> Nihil_85: the core 2 duo will be though :)
[02:06] <BoAn> hai
[02:06] <muszek> could someone please answer my question?
[02:06] <spikeb> Nihil_85: and you can get a core duo desktop motherboard, or at least a pentium M one. i've seen em
[02:06] <spikeb> heh
[02:06] <cafuego_> muszek: 'lsb-release -a'
[02:06] <cafuego_> muszek: .. on supported distros.
[02:06] <Nihil_85> spikeb: tomshardware tell the contrary
[02:06] <muszek> cafuego_: thanks :)
[02:06] <Nihil_85> i don't know what to think
[02:07] <cafuego_> ubotu: stupid trick
[02:07] <RandolphCarter> it's borked :)
[02:07] <spikeb> Nihil_85: http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=811&cid=3
[02:08] <spikeb> Nihil_85: and http://system76.com/product_info.php/cPath/2/products_id/155?osCsid=a96f542ad94b3ee6a5eb5add0b84d391
[02:08] <spikeb> heh
[02:08] <muszek> cafuego_: I can see that... works (when I changed "-" to "_") on my ubuntu box, but doesn't on my CentOS box
[02:08] <Tygger-Bob> Ok.. how the heck do you change the hostname in Ubuntu without bunging everthing up?
[02:08] <cafuego_> muszek: The latter is not a "supported distro" then ;-)
[02:08] <RandolphCarter> Tygger-Bob: probably best to change the hostname from single-user mode, and change the line in /etc/hsots
[02:08] <RandolphCarter> */etc/hosts
[02:09] <muszek> :)
[02:09] <cafuego_> muszek: As an alterntive, soemtimes /etc/motd or /etc/issue can contain info too
[02:09] <vineeth> Tygger-Bob:i think its /etc/hostname
[02:09] <mustard5> kbrooks, bah..I should have thought of just editing the file myself...It just dawned on me while I was watching TV that sicciness could have done that
[02:09] <mustard5> kbrooks, glad you advised it :)
[02:09] <Tygger-Bob> yeah. it's changed in both places..
[02:09] <Tygger-Bob> I'll reboot and see if it takes effect.
[02:09] <vineeth> Tygger-Bob:/etc/hosts is used for name resol isn't it ?
[02:10] <Tygger-Bob> brb
[02:10] <muszek> cafuego_: /etc/issue had that info, thanks a lot
[02:10] <Seveas> selinium, not yet
[02:10] <Tygger-Bob> yep. new hostname is in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[02:10] <Tygger-Bob> brb
[02:11] <selinium> Seveas: ok, no problem! Is there anyway you could show me how to do one, so i can get involved?
[02:11] <valehru> kbrooks, bum doesnt allow me to add an application to the startup of gnome
[02:11] <Seveas> selinium, in the case of skype it's quite hackish...
[02:12] <Seveas> (although better than nxclient, which involves hexediting of binaries...)
[02:12] <valehru> say for eg, x-chat initiates on startup
[02:12] <RandolphCarter> valehru: System Preferences->Sessions does that
[02:12] <siccness> sweet, vesa drivers worked ;)
[02:12] <siccness> thanks everyone, now to get the net working :)
[02:12] <Tyggerbob> Thanks all. got it.. I hadn't rebooted to have it take full affect
[02:12] <selinium> Seveas: OOOooh! :)  I have tried out openwengo. it seems to be a good alternative, once you remove all the dlls that come packed with it..
[02:13] <valehru> RandolphCarter, DOH....thx
[02:13] <RandolphCarter> valehru: np's :)
[02:13] <mason_> where can i grab some codecs for totem?
[02:15] <valehru> In synaptic when I try and install azureus I get the following error:  azureus:
[02:15] <valehru> Package azureus has no available version, but exists in the database.
[02:15] <calmdown> i like vlc
[02:15] <valehru> any help?
[02:16] <bimberi> !azureus
[02:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[02:16] <pettson_> hi everybody
[02:16] <stylus> hello pettson_. ;)
[02:16] <hastesaver> how do I get my "xmodmap .xmodmaprc" to be automatically loaded?
[02:16] <pettson_> whats up
[02:17] <valehru> bimberi, i know what azareus is....Im just getting errors when I try and install it from synaptic
[02:17] <bimberi> valehru: have you looked at that HowTo (ubotu's post)?
[02:17] <scotty_> Hi guys - I've just reinstalled with Dapper Flight 7, and now if I enable the second head of my nvidia dual screen configuration, X crashes on startup... Any ideas?
[02:17] <scotty_> (It works fine with 1 head, using the "nvidia" driver)
[02:18] <scotty_> And the config worked fine with kubuntu 5.10
[02:19] <mason_> cafuego_: Im assuming i have to exit X server to reinstall / update / installover those nvidia drivers?
[02:19] <valehru> bimberi, whoops...it installs differently here than with fedora...thx
[02:20] <cafuego_> mason_: Not really, just install the packages and check that X uses nviidia and not nv
[02:20] <bimberi> valehru: np :)
[02:21] <mason_> cafuego_: do i need to 'modprobe nvidia'
[02:21] <cafuego_> mason_: The nvidia kernel module oughg to autoload
[02:22] <mason_> cafuego_: um, what? it will auto load?
[02:22] <cafuego_> yes
[02:23] <mason_> cafuego_: well then, thank you a lot, no doubt you will see me back here again if it works :P
[02:24] <carlospc> Hello, there is any official backport of 2.6.15 for breezy?
[02:25] <carlospc> I've too many problems with intel chipsets (945)
[02:25] <gnomefreak> carlospc: 2.6.15 is not breezy
[02:26] <carlospc> i've looked in breezy, breezy-updates and breezy-backports
[02:26] <gnomefreak> and if you mean can you add backports if you running 2.6.15 no not yet
[02:26] <leroi> hi all
[02:26] <leroi> :d
[02:26] <gnomefreak> carlospc: are you trying to get the 2.6.15 kernel from backports?
[02:27] <Tyggerbob> the information I'm finding through google says that mplayer is in multiverse, but it's not in MY multiverse for dapper.
[02:27] <carlospc> well... i was just looking if there was there... or if is exist
[02:27] <Tyggerbob> anyone have any ideas
[02:27] <cafuego_> carlospc: Thing is, 2.6.15 likes newer versions of udev than breezy has.
[02:27] <cafuego_> !info mplayer dapper
[02:27] <ubotu> mplayer: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu6 (dapper), Packaged size: 3264 kB, Installed size: 7912 kB
[02:28] <gnomefreak> carlospc: no you cant have 2.6.15 kernel on breezy its a dapper kernel (im sure its possible but not a great idea IMHO)
[02:28] <cafuego_> Tyggerbob: It is in everyone else's
[02:28] <carlospc> mmm, i supose
[02:28] <wizzlefish> whenever I close the lid of my laptop, it ususally locks the screen and when I open it back up it gives me a prompt for a password, but recently, whenever I open it up it's just simply a black screen. Why does this happen?
[02:28] <carlospc> but i need support for 945 chipset
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Tyggerbob: make sure you have multiverse enabled not the backport multiverse
[02:28] <cafuego_> carlospc: Of course, ou _could_ just go to dapper.
[02:28] <zukero> how can i share an internet connection between two ubuntu  systems?
[02:29] <Tyggerbob> Ahhh.. that would probably be my problem, gnomefreak
[02:29] <gnomefreak> ;)
[02:29] <beanz> Anyone good with compile problems?
[02:29] <carlospc> well, i'm talking in a change that would affect a ubuntu derivate
[02:29] <leroi> hi
[02:29] <leroi> i just installed ubuntu
[02:29] <gnomefreak> beanz: if you paste your errors to pastebin we can take a look at it and let you know
[02:29] <leroi> but i cannot play mp3 or dvd
[02:30] <leroi> anyone could help
[02:30] <leroi> :s
[02:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell leroi about restricted
[02:30] <carlospc> anyones knows how to improve the support of 945 chipset without changing the kernel?
[02:30] <Warbo> leroi: That is because their codecs are not strictly free. You need universe and multiverse (at least)
[02:30] <cafuego_> carlospc: There is no other way
[02:30] <Tyggerbob> gnomefreak, Yup. that was it. Thanks
[02:30] <beanz> thanks gnomefreak, it's only a single line, I need to find out how to tell ld where a library is (/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltspread)
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Tyggerbob: yw
[02:30] <carlospc> thanks cafuego_, i just wanted to be shure :D
[02:31] <Warbo> beanz: /etc/ld.conf then sudo ldconfig I think
[02:31] <carlospc> shure = sure
[02:31] <blab|patrick> hi
[02:32] <blab|patrick> i tried the new dapper desktop cd but it never boots up the gdm
[02:32] <blab|patrick> i hear the start sound and then the loading symbol
[02:32] <beanz> Warbo:  I added /usr/local/lib/spread and ran ldconfig, but it didnt work.
[02:32] <blab|patrick> in console it says its starting system message bus dbus
[02:33] <blab|patrick> does smone have an idea what might the issue?
[02:33] <blab|patrick> wrong bios settings?!
[02:33] <Warbo> beanz: That usually works for me, but I think there is an environment variable you can echo to make sure it is there, but I forget what it is
[02:33] <Tyggerbob> is libggi2 installable for you guys?
[02:33] <patrick_king> hello, i no this ant ubuntu. but does any one know how to add a user login bit on a .php page
[02:34] <cafuego_> patrick_king: Try #php,  they will know.
[02:34] <patrick_king> arh cheers
[02:35] <blab|patrick> btw whats a "dbus"?
[02:36] <deep> python is hard, just so you know.
[02:37] <spikeb> python? hard?
[02:37] <cafuego_> blab|patrick: A dbus is a way or the kernel and various processes to all talk to eachother un a unified way.
[02:37] <cafuego_> spikeb: whitespace dependency is poo
[02:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> You know I've got to wonder why I'm in two linux channels, am fairly comfortable with UNIX, but am still using windows.
[02:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> Haha
[02:38] <Seveas> Sir_Fawnpug, just ditch windows and come to the light side 
[02:38] <spikeb> Sir_Fawnpug: you're definitely confused.
[02:38] <beanz> Warbo:  but how do I know exactly what ld is looking for? how do I know what to put in that directory?
[02:38] <spikeb> cafuego_: i've been learning python, i'd have to say it's the opposite of hard :)
[02:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> spikeb, seveas, well the weird thing is I ran gentoo for a year and a half without touching windows.
[02:38] <cafuego_> light side! light side! burn!
[02:38] <blab|patrick> cafuego: well than its perfectly normal that dapper desktop cd wont bood further
[02:38] <spikeb> Sir_Fawnpug: how'd you manage to get back to windows then?
[02:38] <blab|patrick> what are common reasons that it fails loading?
[02:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm not sure how it became my main operating system again but I think it had to do with iTunes and me not having a mac.
[02:39] <kurei> hi, how do i update the my ubuntu that i already have installed a newer version of java?
[02:39] <blab|patrick> boot, sry ;)
[02:39] <Seveas> Sir_Fawnpug, that's normal. Gentoo uses too much time compiling to ever get to do anything else
[02:39] <cafuego_> blab|patrick: Unsupported/brokehardware, bugs
[02:39] <Warbo> beanz: The program requires a specific library, and ldconfig tells the system where it can find it's libraries. It is the program's dependency, not ld's so ld is not bothered if it can't find it
[02:39] <_jason> kurei: what version of java do you have now and how did you install it before?
[02:39] <blab|patrick> cafuego: :/
[02:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> Seveas, well actually I like gentoo, believe it or not. I like ubuntu too, of course, that's what I run on my laptop.
[02:39] <blab|patrick> wifi sticks?
[02:40] <zukero> how can i share an internet connection between two ubuntu systems? that is, use one of them as a gateway for the other
[02:40] <Seveas> zukero, install firestarter on the gateway
[02:40] <Sir_Fawnpug> Seveas, I always kept a win32 partition around because I have some teachers at my school who go completely whacko if there's any indication you did a project in anything other than windows.
[02:40] <Seveas> and tick the "share internet connection" box
[02:40] <zukero> okay
[02:40] <Seveas> Sir_Fawnpug, heh 
[02:40] <kurei> _jason, im currently running 1.4.2. I just installed jdk1.5.0 by executing the .bin i downloaded manually
[02:41] <Seveas> I tend to give teachers hell if they make course material available only in MS office formats
[02:41] <cafuego_> kurei: D'oh. Undo.
[02:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> Severas, I'm serious, this guy nearly failed one of his students for having \n newlines in his sourcecode.
[02:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> Instead of crlf.
[02:41] <cafuego_> kurei: sudo apt-get install java-package; fakeroot make-jpkg ./jdk1.5.0.bin
[02:41] <kurei> cafuego, how do i undo?
[02:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> err, something tells me I should use tab.
[02:41] <Seveas> Sir_Fawnpug, ewwwww
[02:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> Seveas, yeah, and I have this guy for my last two CS classes.
[02:42] <cafuego_> kurei: Don't undo, just install over the top.
[02:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> He and I are going to get into it, I know it.
[02:42] <Seveas> Sir_Fawnpug, remember, always run unix2dos over your sources 
[02:42] <kurei> ok...
[02:42] <cafuego_> kurei: (the lack of undo is why you never install such downloads that way)
[02:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell kurei about java
[02:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> Seveas, well it's going to be interesting when I use mono instead of .net for my projects.
[02:42] <Seveas> hehe
[02:43] <kurei> cafuego, u mean to say there is no such thing as uninstall here in ubuntu?
[02:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> gnomefreak, by \n I meant LF, as opposed to "\r\n" for line endings.
[02:43] <_jason> kurei: what ubotu just sent you is what cafuego said but it won't scroll off your screen, also /msg ubotu javadebs   , for already-made java .debs you can use
[02:43] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[02:43] <cafuego_> Sir_Fawnpug: If the teachers abhor FOSS< just submit f-spot as your own work <heh>
[02:43] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug:  Just make sure you use gtk intefaces!
[02:43] <cafuego_> kurei: There is, but not for unpackages software, which is what that .bin is.
[02:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, gtk? GTK has a windows port, I should use ncurses.
[02:44] <xpc> !hu
[02:44] <spikeb> LOL
[02:44] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu.hu
[02:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> Haha
[02:44] <spikeb> Sir_Fawnpug: brilliant!
[02:44] <kurei> cafuego, oh... thank you for the info
[02:44] <Seveas> !hu =~ s/.hu/-hu/
[02:44] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[02:44] <kurei> cafuego, so now i have garbage installed in my machine
[02:44] <xpc> Seveas, /ehois xpc
[02:44] <xpc> whois
[02:44] <_doctormo> hello
[02:44] <xpc> csumi
[02:44] <_doctormo> what is the auto config tool for Xorg?
[02:45] <cafuego_> kurei: Yes, but installing the deb you create with make-jpkg over the top should srt that out.
[02:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> Anyway I don't exclusively use windows actually, I have gentoo set up on my sparc machine.
[02:45] <Warbo> _doctormo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> And I SSH into it alot of times and do my programming on there.
[02:45] <_doctormo> thanks Warbo
[02:45] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug: Why not use windows on the sparc? Oh yeah...
[02:45] <cafuego_> Warbo: HURD!
[02:45] <kurei> cafuego, i assume its safe to simply delete the current java directory... such a mess it was even installed in the desktop
[02:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, well actually with reactos and somebody as insane as I am...
[02:46] <cafuego_> kurei: Oh yeah, that works too
[02:46] <Warbo> cafuego_: What architectures does HURD work on at the moment? Debian HURD only has x86
[02:46] <blab|patrick> that dbus problem? should i wait for a next beta and see if there are changes?
[02:46] <cafuego_> Warbo: "work" ? None. "boot" ? x86
[02:47] <Warbo> cafuego_: lol. I actually like microkernels though (but I don't like x86 :()
[02:47] <Seveas> /kick cafuego DIE HURD TROLL DIE
[02:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> cafuego_, it's too easy to troll HURD.
[02:48] <Sir_Fawnpug> I wonder if it'll ever replace linux as the kernel.
[02:48] <phoenix__> hey ppl i'm new to ubuntu is there any guides that i can use???
[02:48] <spikeb> Sir_Fawnpug: no.
[02:48] <cafuego_> Sir_Fawnpug: Define "ever" ;-)
[02:48] <Sir_Fawnpug> cafuego_, hey, it can happen.
[02:48] <spikeb> no
[02:49] <Seveas> Sir_Fawnpug, sure, and bush could grow a brain...
[02:49] <cafuego_> phoenix__: A good start is the Help menu on the top menubar.
[02:49] <spikeb> the project has gone on so long, and has such a stigma attached to it, they will NOT be able to ever get enough developers
[02:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> Seveas, that, unfortunately, is a problem that is NP-Complete.
[02:49] <Seveas> heh 
[02:49] <cafuego_> Seveas: Yes, but they'd never be able to fit it in his head ;-)
[02:49] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug: Linux Format did a timeline of the future of Linux. In about 50 years all of the millions of Linux distros will be bought my micro$oft and HURD will be the the only free system, but it is not quite finished
[02:49] <Seveas> (for chuckles: /msg ubugtu bush)
[02:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> spikeb, if you think about it linux started out as a very small project; it may have not even reached fruition if ast didn't get into that flamewar with torvalds.
[02:50] <spikeb> Sir_Fawnpug: hurd was a small project before linux was even dreamed of
[02:50] <spikeb> Sir_Fawnpug: and it STILL IS
[02:50] <_doctormo> yay all working :-)
[02:50] <Seveas> Sir_Fawnpug, ast's ego is too big
[02:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> spikeb, well how many people are qualified to write a kernel.
[02:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> Seveas, well technically so is stallman's.
[02:51] <spikeb> Sir_Fawnpug: apparently a great number, looking at all the contributors to linux and the bsd kernels
[02:51] <hastesaver> Sir_Fawnpug, there are tougher things than NP-complete, you know... Problems in NP are actually pretty easy on the grand scale :)
[02:51] <Warbo> spikeb: That's because many people don't see the point in HURD now that we have Linux
[02:51] <cafuego_> ubotu: stupid trick
[02:51] <Seveas> heh, stallman has an ego the size of a planet...
[02:51] <spikeb> Warbo: they didnt see the point of the hurd for the years before linux existed either
[02:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> I really wouldn't mind meeting either though
[02:51] <Seveas> Sir_Fawnpug, only esr can beat rms with ego-games 
[02:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> spikeb, a monolithic kernel is easier to write than a microkernel though.
[02:51] <cafuego_> Seveas: .. or shoot him.
[02:52] <Warbo> spikeb: I find it kind of strange that GNU tried to replace UNIX, but they started out with compression algorithms, text editors and such
[02:52] <spikeb> stallman is a great advocate. he should be kept far, far, far away from developers though
[02:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> Even though supposedly the microkernel is the future.
[02:52] <spikeb> Warbo: they were replacing each bit of the UNIX system they used
[02:52] <Seveas> cafuego, http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond
[02:52] <cafuego_> Seveas: ino
[02:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, well if you think about it the trival tools were a good start.
[02:53] <spikeb> well look at GNU now, though. they have everything BUT the kernel
[02:53] <spikeb> not bad, eh?
[02:53] <nep> hola
[02:53] <Sir_Fawnpug> spikeb, well on the flipside that says something about GNU
[02:53] <Sir_Fawnpug> And that's its portability.
[02:53] <nep> quien me ensea ubuntu
[02:53] <Seveas> !es
[02:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:53] <Warbo> spikeb: GNU tools (like GCC) are phenominaly successful
[02:54] <spikeb> yes they are
[02:54] <nep> alguien habla espaol
[02:54] <nep> help
[02:55] <nep> help mi
[02:55] <Seveas> nep, /join #ubuntu-es
[02:55] <nep> I AM NEW
[02:56] <zukero> Seveas : doesn't seem to work ...
[02:56] <Sir_Fawnpug> Well I am not sure what I think about HERD honestly
[02:56] <Sir_Fawnpug> err, HURD
[02:56] <zukero> seemed too easy :)
[02:56] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug: HURD > HIRD > HURD, not HERD :)
[02:56] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, how about Hrd/
[02:57] <diederick_> hi there
[02:57] <Seveas> Sir_Fawnpug, is that the german version?
[02:57] <Seveas> ;)
[02:57] <diederick_> does anyone knows if there is  ethereal for ubuntu?
[02:57] <Sir_Fawnpug> Seveas, haha, it very well could be.
[02:57] <Seveas> !info ethereal
[02:57] <ubotu> ethereal: (network traffic analyzer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.10.12-2ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 485 kB, Installed size: 1312 kB
[02:57] <Seveas> ^-- diederick_
[02:57] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug: How's that pronounced? And I don't know any words beginning with ?
[02:57] <Yantan> hi
[02:57] <Warbo> hi
[02:57] <diederick_> haha oke..hmm I can't find it using the synaptic package manager..
[02:58] <Yantan> can I install k3b on gnome ?
[02:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, it's hard to pronounce in english.
[02:58] <cafuego_> diederick_: ffe universe aanzetten
[02:58] <Seveas> diederick_, enable the "community supported repositories" in synaptic
[02:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> "Hoohhrd."
[02:58] <Seveas> settings  repositories
[02:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> That's the best I can do.
[02:58] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug: I do know of languages where "!" is pronounced as a click in the middle of words
[02:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> It's kind of like trying to say o with your tongue stuck out.
[02:59] <cafuego_> hrd?
[02:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> It sounds like trying to speak while sedated.
[02:59] <Yantan>  can I install k3b on gnome ?
[02:59] <cafuego_> Yantan: yes
[02:59] <Warbo> Yantan: Yes, but it will install minimal KDE libraries that it needs as well (no problem though)
[02:59] <Seveas> hr
[02:59] <Yantan> how the feel'nlook will be ? qt or gtk ?
[02:59] <Seveas> Yantan, qt
[02:59] <Warbo> Yantan: QT
[03:00] <Yantan> oh cool
[03:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> Funny, QT isn't very cute.
[03:00] <Seveas> s/very//
[03:00] <Yantan> then i dont have to install the whole kde ?
[03:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> Haha
[03:00] <Warbo> How essential is /tmp during boot? I might have to make it a link somewhere (don't ask why)
[03:00] <zukero> oops nevermind, it worked well !! thx Seveas , and thx firestarter
[03:00] <diederick_> i love ubuntu!
[03:00] <cafuego_>  is not a latter, bu a fundamental constant
[03:00] <Yantan> i need few progz from kde.. is there like a minimum to install so that such progz will work
[03:01] <Yantan> like amarok, k3b
[03:01] <Warbo> Yantan: They will automatically install what they need
[03:01] <Sir_Fawnpug> cafuego, are you talking about o umlaut?
[03:01] <Yantan> ok cool
[03:01] <Sir_Fawnpug> Unicode is kind of screwed up in jircii
[03:01] <MistaED> has Qt got it hard-coded to make harsh lines and metal indents? all the themes i've tried for kde haven't been as nice as like, gnome or OSX
[03:01] <Warbo> Yantan: As long as you use Synaptic/apt-get
[03:01] <sainarx> hi all! :) I have some questions about the shiping CDs!Somebody want to help me??? :)
[03:01] <cafuego_> Sir_Fawnpug: No, the planck length (I think, from memory)
[03:01] <_jason> sainarx: just ask your question
[03:01] <Yantan> warbo yes understood
[03:01] <Sir_Fawnpug> My best friend Planck.
[03:02] <Warbo> cafuego_: Planck length looks like a h
[03:02] <cafuego_> that's right
[03:02] <_jason> sainarx: just ask the channel, no need to private message :)
[03:02] <Warbo> cafuego_: Oh wiat, that's the constant
[03:02] <sainarx> ok
[03:03] <cafuego_> Warbo: This one was a 'd' with a -.
[03:03] <Yantan> anyone tried xampp for apache/php and mysql on ubuntu rather than installing from repos. ?
[03:03] <Warbo> Is /tmp needed to boot into a console?
[03:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> What's xampp?
[03:04] <sainarx> I just make request for CDs and I want to ask what to do now
[03:04] <sainarx> waiting to call me?
[03:04] <into`> ubuntu == copy of winodws XP ;-)
[03:04] <cafuego_> info xampp
[03:04] <Yantan> xamp is a package of apache, php4 and 5, mysql, proFTP
[03:04] <cafuego_> !info xampp
[03:04] <Warbo> sainarx: Mine just arrived a few weeks later, no call
[03:04] <cafuego_> ah
[03:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> Oh, I think I might've heard about that before. Kind of like a LAMP stack ready to go.
[03:05] <Yantan> yes
[03:05] <Yantan> itsname is lampp
[03:05] <Warbo> into`: "They both take their look-n-feel from a common source" (ie. PARC)
[03:05] <sainarx> and do I pay the shiping?
[03:05] <Warbo> sainarx: Nope
[03:05] <sainarx> :) lol
[03:05] <_jason> sainarx: it should be free unless your country imposes some kind of tax on it
[03:05] <eagle1> Hello! My UBUNTU always needs >2 minutes for startup if I am not connected to the LAN (1 min "Configuring network interfaces" and 1 min "Waiting for interfaces to come up"). Does anyone know this problem and what configs to change? (maybe somehow a newbie question...)
[03:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> sainarx, they send you like 50 CDs too
[03:06] <Warbo> sainarx: The post said mine came from the Isle of Man (to England) so they have places all over the world
[03:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> My professor got them to ship him some ubuntu CDs, they shipped him PPC and X86
[03:06] <_jason> eagle1: one way is to just press ctrl-c while it is doing that
[03:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> 25 of each I think
[03:06] <Warbo> eagle1: Is this a CD booting?
[03:06] <Yantan> guys anyone has a better way for speedtouch dsl 330 installation ?
[03:06] <sainarx> thanks for the help :)
[03:06] <eagle1> Warbo: no
[03:07] <Warbo> eagle1: Then you could disable the service
[03:07] <Warbo> eagle1: I think
[03:07] <cafuego_> eagle1: It will be waiting for the DHCP server.
[03:07] <Warbo> eagle1: Give yourself a static IP (make one up) and it won't check
[03:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> Never knew ubuntu had a sparc installer
[03:08] <sainarx> if I requested once this CDs can I request new version later?
[03:08] <Warbo> sainarx: You can make one request per release, and if you have already had an order for a past release you won't be a high priority
[03:08] <cafuego_> Warbo: Hmm,  is a voiced alveolo-palatal affricate
[03:08] <eagle1> Warbo: But then it will not work when I do connect to the LAN
[03:09] <Yantan> do the cds contain more than what could be downloaded ?
[03:09] <Yantan> I always download new versions
[03:09] <_jason> Yantan: no, less
[03:09] <cafuego_> eagle1: If you pick an addres that would work on the lan, it will.
[03:09] <Warbo> eagle1: Sorry, I thought you said you WEREN'T on a LAN, my mistake :)
[03:09] <Sir_Fawnpug> eagle1, unless you have a collision a static IP address should work.
[03:09] <Sir_Fawnpug> eagle1, how big is the network your'e on?
[03:10] <Yantan> i will tell u something i knew this week
[03:10] <Yantan> google will provide  linux picasa
[03:10] <Sir_Fawnpug> Oh man I should really get back to working on my compiler
[03:10] <enyc> Meep! ?anybody know how to make XTERM keep window-title and not have it changed by login etc. ?
[03:10] <Yantan> hopefully not old news heh
[03:10] <eagle1> Warbo: Not a mistake. Sometimes I am connected to this LAN, sometimes to another, sometimes not. I don't like to change configurations each time. (Its a laptop)
[03:12] <eagle1> ^-- (also to Sir_Fawnpug)
[03:12] <Warbo> eagle1: DHCP seems perfect for you then (except for the time), isn't there a way to make boot processes run in parallel?
[03:13] <bzq666> !fonts
[03:13] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[03:13] <Sir_Fawnpug> !hurd
[03:13] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sir_Fawnpug
[03:14] <spikeb> heh
[03:14] <spikeb> hurd is technically offtopic ;-)
[03:14] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug: Will you stop it with the HURD? Go work on your compiler :)
[03:14] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, well really I shouldn't be doing either, I have finals this week, haha.
[03:14] <Yantan> hurd is a micro kernel
[03:14] <Sir_Fawnpug> I have too many pet projects. HURD of course not beign one of them.
[03:14] <Elazar> I've installed Gaim 2.0.0b3 and Firefox 1.5.0.2 and now for some reason clicking on links in Gaim IMs won't come up in Firefox windows anymore. Thoughts?
[03:14] <Sir_Fawnpug> Yantan, Warbo knows, I just mentioned working on my compiler.
[03:15] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug: I should really be planning my physics practical exam, but Google will help with that
[03:15] <eagle1> Warbo: Maybe? I'm somehow a greenhorn in linux. When I had fedora installed, it immediately realized whether I was connected to the LAN... If i make the processes run in parallel, they still take 1 minute, won't they? I assume that the "configuring network interfaces" waits for a timeout that could be set if I knew how?
[03:15] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, I actually have a take home final for my instrumentation class that's due tommorow that I haven't even started.
[03:16] <Sir_Fawnpug> The compiler's just a pet project of mine, because I'm fed up with java.
[03:16] <spikeb> eagle1: yes, but everything else would continue to boot while the one process waited for timeout
[03:16] <Sir_Fawnpug> But I've had very little time to work on it.
[03:16] <Warbo> eagle1: Running EVERY process in parallel is usually a bad idea, as some rely on others being completed, but it would mean that if your LAN is detected (should be very quick) then you are on, but if not the detection will be going on "in the background"
[03:16] <spikeb> Sir_Fawnpug: go help gcj :P
[03:17] <Sir_Fawnpug> spikeb, well really it has to do more with the language than the compiler.
[03:17] <spikeb> oh
[03:17] <khaled> i see skype in the repository, but can not install because of dependency..
[03:17] <spikeb> Sir_Fawnpug: damn it
[03:17] <Sir_Fawnpug> The language is nice but not suited to what I do.
[03:17] <miracle> hi
[03:17] <khaled> looks like the dependencies are not installable
[03:17] <Sir_Fawnpug> So I decided I'd mix the syntax of java, c, and perl.
[03:18] <Sir_Fawnpug> That's a nightmare waiting to happen.
[03:18] <miracle> o.o
[03:18] <Warbo> khaled: Are you sure it is an Ubuntu repository? Skype depends on QT, but I don't remember seeing Skype in the repos
[03:18] <khaled> Warbo, khaled@linuxDell:~/downloads$ sudo apt-cache search skype
[03:18] <khaled> skype - Free Internet Telephony - The whole world can talk for free
[03:19] <Sir_Fawnpug> khaled, but if you're on intel you get preference to amd.
[03:19] <eagle1> What about configuring the detection? -- otherwise, any tipp how to parallelize the startup processes?
[03:19] <miracle> is it worthy to install Qt just for the skype?
[03:19] <khaled> Sir_Fawnpug, sorry ?
[03:19] <Sir_Fawnpug> Oh, nevermind, I didn't know you were reading the package description.
[03:19] <khaled> miracle, you can get the static version
[03:20] <Warbo> miracle: I have QT just for Amarok (and I used to use Kuickshow, before the GNOME viewer got Back/Forward buttons)
[03:20] <khaled> qt is compiled into that binary
[03:20] <Sir_Fawnpug> I just looked over it again and realized it.
[03:20] <Warbo> khaled: I get no results in Dapper, with a few Debian repos added
[03:20] <miracle> I know... but..
[03:20] <khaled> miracle, but it takes 1 min to load and does not look good
[03:20] <miracle> I dislike that overhead
[03:21] <khaled> Warbo, I was trying to install using deb package.. is it possible that it is showing up in apt-cache ?
[03:21] <Warbo> khaled: Yes, that's what dpkg does
[03:21] <khaled> Warbo, ah..
[03:21] <Warbo> khaled: If it is installed then apt-get -f install would install any dependencies
[03:21] <AnAnt> regarding mplayer & ALSA problem, adding this line : srate=48000 in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf solves it
[03:22] <khaled> Warbo, tried that
[03:22] <Warbo> khaled: As long as the package names are the same as Debian
[03:22] <bimberi> khaled: a failed dpkg install will show up in 'apt-cache search'
[03:22] <MistaED> i think just running winskype with wine set up for alsa would be better than running the linux version
[03:22] <bimberi> khaled: did you get the .deb from the skype website
[03:22] <bimberi> ?
[03:22] <khaled> bimberi, yes
[03:22] <bimberi> !skype
[03:22] <ubotu> from memory, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[03:22] <Warbo> khaled: Maybe alien on an RPM would not give it dependencies?
[03:23] <Warbo> Or use that link :)
[03:23] <bimberi> khaled: seveas has repackaged it to fix the dependency issue ^^^^^^^
[03:23] <khaled> Warbo, it worked
[03:23] <khaled> dpkg -i skype.deb (from web site)
[03:23] <khaled> sudo apt-get -f install
[03:24] <khaled> looks a bit better than the static build
[03:26] <khaled> how do i query a package to see if it is installed? something like rpm -q packagename ?
[03:27] <Ng> dpkg -l foo
[03:27] <johnm1019> is there a hotkey or way to jump to screensaver from X, like in OS X putting the cursor in the upper right corner of screen
[03:27] <Warbo> khaled: Maybe "dpkg -l | grep packagename"
[03:27] <Warbo> OK then. even easier
[03:27] <Ng> johnm1019: you can set a hotkey with System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:27] <khaled> thanks
[03:27] <johnm1019> Ng, thans
[03:27] <Warbo> johnm1019: You can do the exact same thing with "brightside"
[03:27] <Warbo> johnm1019: I mean the screen corner thing
[03:28] <johnm1019> Warbo, what is brightside/
[03:29] <Warbo> johnm1019: It is a daemon that detects when your cursor is at the edge of the screen. I tell it to switch my desktops (edge-flip)
[03:29] <johnm1019> Warbo, where can i get it?
[03:29] <Warbo> johnm1019: Universe
[03:30] <Warbo> !universe
[03:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:31] <lordalbert> hello
[03:31] <Warbo> hi
[03:31] <lordalbert> can i install debian's packages in ubuntu?
[03:31] <Warbo> lordalbert: They may not work. Only try it on trivial stuff like games
[03:31] <spikeb> i wouldn't
[03:31] <spikeb> but it depends on what the pkg is
[03:31] <_jason> is there a terminal command that will act exactly the same as pressing logout in the gnome menu?
[03:32] <spikeb> tried "logout" ?
[03:32] <Ng> logout is for shells
[03:32] <Ng> _jason: no
[03:32] <_jason> spikeb: where would I put that?  If I put it in a terminal it would just exit the terminal :P
[03:33] <spikeb> ok then i'm wrong.
[03:33] <Warbo> _jason: ctrl-alt-backspace log out in Dapper instead of zapping X. That's keyboard, so it sort of a command :)
[03:34] <_jason> Warbo: k, I'll just do that.  Thanks Warbo, Ng, spikeb
[03:34] <Ng> ctrl-alt-backspace is zapping X, not logging out
[03:34] <Warbo> Ng: Not in Dapper
[03:35] <Kill_Bob> hi, does anybody know a wmv-joiner tool for ubuntu/linux?
[03:35] <Ng> Warbo: are you sure?
[03:35] <hastesaver> _jason, you want to log out of a gnome session from outside it?
[03:35] <Warbo> Kill_Bob: mencoder on multiple files
[03:35] <Warbo> Ng: I think so, I don't want to try it now either way
[03:35] <Ng> Warbo: the xorg.conf would need a "DontZap on" option and it doesn't have that
[03:36] <Ng> Warbo: so I say you're wrong ;)
[03:36] <Ng> but likewise, I don't really want to try it right now ;)
[03:36] <Kill_Bob> thx warbo, i'll checkt it out..
[03:36] <Kill_Bob> -t
[03:36] <_jason> hastesaver: I'm in it, but my panel is borked and just killing the panel hasn't worked.  And neither has ctrl-alt-backspace.  I think I'll go mess with some config files now
[03:37] <hastesaver> _jason, Ctrl-Alt-backspace should always work, it just kills X..
[03:37] <hastesaver> _jason, you could also do "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" from one of the ttys
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-backspace can be 'disabled' however. witht he right X config option
[03:37] <Warbo> _jason: /etc/init.d/gdm stop then restart it from a console (you can't use restart in a graphical environment)
[03:38] <_jason> well X did restart, it just didn't fix the issue
[03:38] <spikeb> heh
[03:38] <Warbo> _jason: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-panel :)
[03:38] <c0br4> dpkg-reconfigure gnome-panel
[03:38] <hastesaver> _jason, or "rm -rf ~/.gnome*" ;) (No, not safe. Just kidding)
[03:39] <_jason> hastesaver: haha, I'll just do ~/.gnome2/panel2.d :)
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> hastesaver,  i was about to suggest creating a new user. and seeinf if gnome worked for them
[03:39] <Dr_Willis>  which would verify if its a gnome setting issue. :P
[03:39] <hastesaver> _jason, --reinstall gnome-panel seems to be the best
[03:39] <spikeb> not safe? wouldn't that just get rid of all your settings and the next time you logged in, you'd read from the defaults?
[03:40] <Warbo> spikeb: b: exactly. I would define that as unsafe, just like formatting a hard drive is unsafe, because you have to start again
[03:40] <gill> hello all
[03:40] <c0br4> hi
[03:41] <gill> I want this ubuntu box to load a cd player program when I insert a music cd instead of the cd ripping software that ucrrently loads
[03:41] <Warbo> gill: Are you on Breezy or Dapper?
[03:41] <gill> I would also like to know if it's posible to configure the auto loader to load dvds
[03:41] <gill> Warbo: Breezy
[03:41] <Warbo> gill: OK, not sure then sorry
[03:42] <gill> Warbo: is it worth updating this machine to Dapper?
[03:43] <Warbo> I wouldn't (well, I HAVE updated, but I would recommend you wait a few days till the 1st)
[03:43] <selinium> what is the command to display the kernel?
[03:43] <Warbo> uname -r
[03:43] <gill> hmm, there must be a Breezy control panel for autoloading
[03:44] <selinium> Thanks Warbo! :)
[03:44] <Ng> gill: System->Preferences->Removeable Drives
[03:44] <Ng> -e
[03:44] <gill> Ng: Ah thank you so much
[03:45] <Warbo> Ng: That's just in Dapper isn't it?
[03:45] <gill> Ng: do you know a good cd playing program?
[03:45] <gill> Warbo: aparently not
[03:45] <Ng> Warbo: it was in breezy too, just an earlier version
[03:45] <Warbo> gill: OK, cos that is what I was going to recommend
[03:45] <sainarx> hello if i download beta2 of ubuntu can i update it later to final verion with online update
[03:45] <Warbo> sainarx: yes
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> Yes
[03:46] <gill> sainarx, hell yes
[03:46] <sainarx> thank :)
[03:46] <lordalbert> i don't find Transmission in Ubuntu's repository :(
[03:49] <gill> oh the cd player doesn't produce any sound, is it going through the sound lead?
[03:50] <Warbo> gill: It is using the CD player's CD playing abilities
[03:50] <gill> Warbo: anyway around it? cd drives don't come with those cables any more
[03:51] <Warbo> I don't know, depends on the player (I use XMMS)
[03:52] <brandon_> how do i reinstall a package that's already installed using apt?
[03:53] <Warbo> apt-get install --reinstall
[03:53] <brandon_> Warbo: no kidding, really?
[03:53] <Warbo> yep
[03:53] <lordalbert> isn't there the Transmission package for ubuntu?
[03:54] <Warbo> Dammit my Morphix CD still doesn't work
[03:54] <Max-O-Matic> hello, i want to get my HP scanjet 2300c installed in xsane, i visited the sane site, but have no idea how to install the package , can somebody please help me ?
[03:54] <brandon_> morphix?
[03:54] <valehru> !enlightenment
[03:54] <ubotu> [enlightenment]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155
[03:54] <Warbo> brandon_: Lets you create your own LiveCDs, but mine doesn't start Xorg (mind you, neither does the original I downloaded)
[03:55] <brandon_> Warbo: what's wrong with the standard ubuntu live cd?
[03:55] <Warbo> brandon_: It doesn't have Beneath A Steel Sky :)
[03:55] <brandon_> what the hell is that?
[03:55] <Max-O-Matic> a game
[03:55] <Warbo> brandon_: It's a CLASSIC game (like Monkey Island)
[03:56] <Max-O-Matic> :D
[03:56] <brandon_> monkey island?
[03:56] <Warbo> brandon_: OMG you need a life! (or maybe I do?)
[03:56] <Ng> the adventures of the erstwhile Guybrush Threepwood! ;)
[03:56] <Max-O-Matic> :D
[03:56] <Warbo> Ng: Guybrush, so called because his filename in Deluxe Paint was guy.brush and they couldn't be bothered to think of a name
[03:57] <brandon_> i only play games that involve lots of bloodshed and such
[03:57] <Ng> Warbo: ahh, Deluxe Paint. those were the days. I actually bought a copy of DP3 ;o
[03:57] <gill> brandon_, like Theme Hospital?
[03:57] <mason_> cafuego_: :D,  didnt work, "Fatal Error: Caught Signal 11" => Reformat++
[03:57] <brandon_> no, like 1st person shooters
[03:57] <brandon_> battlefield 42 and so forth
[03:58] <mason_> i love Oblivion
[03:58] <Warbo> brandon_: You don't know what you're missing (is BASS in the repos?)
[03:58] <brandon_> Warbo: i don't play those kinds of gay games
[03:58] <Warbo> Yes it is!
[03:58] <gill> brandon_, I thought it was battlefield 1942
[03:59] <Warbo> brandon_: It's not gay. Are you using that as an insult?
[03:59] <brandon_> Warbo: just trying to get a rise out of you
[03:59] <Warbo> brandon_: If you said it was bad I would respect your opinion
[03:59] <gill> brandon_, Gay isn't even a insult, it's like calling me a Geek.
[03:59] <Max-O-Matic> anybody an idea how i get my HP scanjet 2300c installed
[03:59] <Max-O-Matic> :D
[03:59] <brandon_> i have to amuse myself somehow
[04:00] <brandon_> come on, hp has great linux support. it's already installed
[04:00] <Warbo> Hang on, I better not take that attitude on World of Warcraft :)
[04:00] <Max-O-Matic> but i cannot call it in xsane
[04:00] <Ng> brandon_: homophobic insults are pretty stupid and may well get you kicked, so don't
[04:00] <mason_> Canon dont support linux do they? ive got a MP360 sitting here, is there anyway i can get it working?
[04:01] <Warbo> "Homophobics are gay"
[04:01] <brandon_> that's worse than what i said
[04:01] <Hobbsee> Warbo: do you really want a ban?
[04:01] <KenSentMe> can anyone tell me what brands of tv pci cards are best supported by ubuntu/linux?
[04:02] <Warbo> It's a blinking joke! I don;t see gay as an insult
[04:02] <Ng> KenSentMe: hauppauge ones tend to be very well supported
[04:02] <spikeb> heh
[04:02] <brandon_> KenSentMe: i would recommend staying away from the ati all-in-blunder series, but other than that, they're all supported quite well
[04:02] <mason_> Back to canon printer support? anyone?
[04:02] <siccness> all-in-blunder, heheh, clever :)
[04:02] <KenSentMe> Ng: thanx
[04:02] <r0cc0> hi
[04:03] <KenSentMe> brandon_: u2
[04:03] <brandon_> mason_: you need to make sure you're using the correct driver. you may have scroll through a list of 400 of htem and select them one by one
[04:03] <c0br4> KenSentMe try cards with a bt878 chip
[04:03] <c0br4> newer ones tend to stick with saa1734 though
[04:03] <mason_> brandon_: And.. this list is found where?
[04:04] <brandon_> msaon_: how long have you been using linux?
[04:04] <r0cc0> does anybody know how to install the mustek WVam 300 A on ubuntu?
[04:04] <mason_> as far as i can tell, it set it up as 'Generic printer' = not work
[04:04] <mason_> about 3-4 days
[04:04] <Warbo> My bt878 had b/w when I tried to show composite input
[04:04] <diederick_> Hi there, does anyone know how I can check for activity on a TCP port using netstat?
[04:04] <brandon_> mason: that's one problem
[04:05] <KenSentMe> c0br4: what type of cards use that chipset?
[04:05] <Ng> diederick_: all you can see is the receive and send queues. perhaps tcpdump or iptraf would be better?
[04:05] <c0br4> older series
[04:05] <c0br4> avermedia, lifeview
[04:05] <diederick_> Ng: oke, yeah i'm looking for a good solutino, but I don't know which options I have.. i just want to check if there is activity on some prt
[04:05] <diederick_> port
[04:05] <Warbo> I have a PCTV
[04:05] <c0br4> newer lifeview cards come with a different chip
[04:05] <quest> bonjour
[04:05] <KenSentMe> c0br4: and why are those better than the newer ones?
[04:06] <brandon_> mason_:linux doesn't have good printer support. i would recommend only using windows if you're going to do any printing
[04:06] <c0br4> their support is more mature
[04:06] <mason_> brandon_: So uninstall Generic printer?
[04:06] <c0br4> and their picture quality as well
[04:06] <mason_> brandon_: well, i wasnt looking for anything special, just helps & convenient
[04:06] <guest190849> when I type /join #amarok it says  #amarok :You need to be identified to join that channel, does anyone know why?
[04:06] <brandon_> mason_:you believe that?
[04:07] <valehru> hey guys
[04:07] <paradizelost> guest190849: you must need to register on freenode...
[04:07] <valehru> From symantic I installed enlightenment
[04:07] <valehru> but Im still in gnome
[04:07] <r0cc0> guest190849,  register firt with /ns register password
[04:07] <mason_> Brandon_: I.. ahh. what?
[04:07] <paradizelost> valehru: you mean synaptic?
[04:07] <valehru> or when I log out Im still logging back into gnome
[04:07] <paradizelost> valehru: not the antivirus?
[04:07] <brandon_> mason_: you believe that line of bull i just gave you?
[04:07] <valehru> paradizelost, yeah synaptic
[04:07] <paradizelost> valehru: there should e a session option
[04:07] <paradizelost> at the login screen
[04:07] <valehru> im after 10 beers
[04:07] <jhenn> Would ubuntu run on a 300mhz 64mb ram?
[04:07] <valehru> lol
[04:07] <valehru> ahh gotcha
[04:07] <Warbo> valehru: You should either change GDM to use Enlightenment or use Entrance
[04:07] <valehru> thx
[04:08] <r0cc0> the next time u join, tyle /ns identify yourpass
[04:08] <mason_> brandon_: about linux not having good printer support, no.. but from what i read Canon does not
[04:08] <brandon_> mason_: look up your exact model on the web. there will probably be instructions for the right driver to use and how to install it
[04:08] <r0cc0> how can i install a webcamo, if there aren't any official driver?
[04:08] <TheFuzzball> thanks
[04:09] <brandon_> mason_: yeah, sure you didn't...
[04:09] <r0cc0> TheFuzzball, np
[04:09] <[peruvien] > hi... everyone
[04:09] <[peruvien] > it is possible to control a entreprise with cams (or maybe webcams) and see it by a web server?
[04:09] <brandon_> mason_:there's also a site linuxprinting.org that has information you might find useful
[04:10] <mason_> brandon_: well, thank you anyway
[04:10] <paradizelost> r0cc0: ndiswrapper *might* do it, i'm not sure if that's a network/wireless didrver only thing though
[04:10] <brandon_> mason_: is your printer connected right now?
[04:10] <[peruvien] > can someone help me to make a ERP with php, it's possible?
[04:10] <mason_> yes
[04:10] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[04:11] <void^> ndiswrapper won't do anything besides ndis drivers which is a network driver interface.
[04:11] <brandon_> mason_: have you got a text document handy?
[04:11] <mason_> yes
[04:11] <paradizelost> void^: k.  as i said, i wasn't sure.
[04:11] <paradizelost> MacSlow: morning
[04:12] <brandon_> mason_: make sure the printer is on, and open a terminal. type "lpr filename" where filename is the name of the text document
[04:13] <gill> hmm, mplayer only plays the intro to a dvd before closing how odd
[04:13] <MacSlow> hi paradizelost
[04:13] <KenSentMe> c0br4: so the 881 chip is bad/worse?
[04:13] <r0cc0> then i look in the device manager, the microfone of the webcam was identified correctly
[04:13] <mason_> brandon_: have done, and got a error "lpr: error - no default destination available.
[04:13] <r0cc0> and when i start gnomeMeeting, there is my cam available
[04:13] <mason_> "
[04:13] <r0cc0> but i didnt get any picture
[04:13] <paradizelost> gill: try using xine-ui
[04:14] <brandon_> maosn_:that means that there's no default printer. are you using gnome?
[04:14] <mason_> Sure am
[04:14] <Warbo> gill: I find mplayer is bad for DVDs, but totem is fine (sounds like it is only playing the first "chapter", the title)
[04:14] <mason_> canon doesnt have a linux driver http://www.canon.com.au/products/all_in_one_printers/all_in_one_printers/mp360_drivers.html
[04:14] <c0br4> they are good despite the inmature support
[04:14] <c0br4> *immature
[04:14] <gill> Warbo: totem is useless, keep on complaining about things
[04:15] <c0br4> for now they should perform quite good
[04:15] <Warbo> gill: Try ogle (or ogle-gui)
[04:15] <paradizelost> mason_: is it a laserjet?
[04:15] <brandon_> mason_: yes, but another driver for a different model may work. for instance, my dreadful lexmark x73 uses the driver for the z42
[04:15] <c0br4> but if you can find a card with a bt878 chip, do not hesitate to buy it
[04:15] <mason_> its a imageCLASS
[04:15] <paradizelost> mason_: because canon makes the core system for the HP laserjet printers
[04:15] <gill> Warbo: ogle works, just bad full screen suport
[04:16] <paradizelost> drivers may be interchangeable to a point
[04:16] <mason_> Ahh, makes sence
[04:16] <Warbo> gill: My only other choice would be VLC
[04:17] <brandon_> paradizelost: he wants to know where the screen for adding/modifying printers is, and the problem is, i don't use the disastrous gnome desktop, so i don't know
[04:17] <gill> Warbo: I'll keep all options option for now
[04:17] <elkbuntu> brandon_, err.. system -> administration -> printing iirc
[04:17] <elkbuntu> so simple :P
[04:17] <frfx> what's the command for a recursive chmod? sudo chmod -r 755 myFile.txt doesn't work
[04:18] <brandon_> mason_: did you get that?
[04:18] <elkbuntu> frfx, -R ;)
[04:18] <Warbo> frfx: use captial r (lowercase is "read")
[04:18] <mason_> system -> administration -> printing iirc ?
[04:18] <frfx> ow..thanks guys
[04:18] <elkbuntu> mason_, yes, the iirc = if i remember correctly
[04:18] <brandon_> mason_: the iirc probably means if i recall
[04:18] <brandon_> mason_: so open that and select your printer model
[04:18] <brandon_> mason_: add it
[04:19] <paradizelost> mason_: yess
[04:19] <paradizelost> mason_: are you using dapper or breezy?
[04:19] <mason_> breezy
[04:19] <mason_> sweet, i think that may have just worked :D
[04:19] <paradizelost> mason_: because dapper has a LOT more printer drivers in it.
[04:20] <brandon_> mason_: tryt he lpr command again
[04:20] <elkbuntu> paradizelost, unfortunately, dappers scanner support still fails me :(
[04:20] <paradizelost> elkbuntu: what type of scanner?
[04:20] <diederick_> I forwarded port A to a computer in my local network. I can access a computer in my local network using its local ip, but not using the 'outgoing' internet IP. Any suggestions?
[04:20] <paradizelost> cuz epsons really suck in linux
[04:21] <paradizelost> but hp's work great
[04:21] <Warbo> my scanner is fine on Dapper (well, xsane did crash on me the other day, so I used kooka)
[04:21] <elkbuntu> it is an epson, part of a multifunction
[04:21] <Rug> Howdy all
[04:21] <gill> hmm, all these dvd players default to widescreen, and on full screen this produces a large black band (standard lcd)
[04:21] <elkbuntu> but epson printers > all :P
[04:21] <paradizelost> diederick_: a lot of times a router won't route out and right back in to the network
[04:21] <paradizelost> diederick_: i run into it all the time on many different forms of routers
[04:21] <diederick_> paradizelost, is there a way to fix this?
[04:22] <elkbuntu> paradizelost, in truth, it can recognise and scan, but it scans black and green or white and pink
[04:22] <paradizelost> diederick_: it's router behavior, it won't send the packets out on the same interface it recieved them on
[04:22] <Warbo> elkbuntu: What's the problem then :)
[04:22] <Rug> I am doing a minimal install, what do I install to get X ?  (In Debian it was x-window-system)
[04:22] <diederick_> no but the router must send them to another machine
[04:22] <paradizelost> Rug: apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:22] <mason_> brandon_: Well, atleast its printing, proportions are completley raped, lpr works, but again. ill just keep looking for drivers till i find a working one
[04:22] <mason_> thanks
[04:22] <Warbo> Rug: ubuntu-minimal ?
[04:22] <elkbuntu> Warbo, dont make me rub your nose in windows ME
[04:22] <paradizelost> diederick_: it would send it on to the next router, but it is the destination
[04:22] <brandon_> mason_: that's because lpr is a basic command that bypasses the drivers
[04:23] <paradizelost> diederick_: it's just how routing works.
[04:23] <diederick_> paradizelost: so It receives tham on ip A which is the internet ip and must send them to ip B
[04:23] <Rug> paradizelost: but apt-cache lists that as being a dummy package
[04:23] <brandon_> mason_: now, what you need to do is try using a program like openorifice to print
[04:23] <paradizelost> diederick_: forwards don't take effect from the internal interfaces.
[04:23] <paradizelost> Rug: check your sources.
[04:23] <Warbo> Rug: Yes, but I think x-window-system and xserver-xorg are as well
[04:23] <Rug> ahh
[04:23] <diederick_> paradizelost: what do you mean with that?
[04:24] <paradizelost> i run into it at home.  i forward external port 80 to an internal ip.  if i try to go to the external ip it blocks, if i try to go to the port 80 on the router, it stays at the router
[04:25] <paradizelost> you have to specify the internal ip to forward port 80 to a diff. ip.   but then you are really messing, you shouldn't do port forwarding on the internal network.
[04:25] <diederick_> no indeed
[04:25] <alvaro> Hello anyone with Amd64 and firefox flash-enabled??? It doesn't work for me in chroot
[04:26] <paradizelost> diederick_: now, i have problems if i try to go to my web site from inside, because it goes to the firewall and doesn't forward, so i just use a hosts entry to make it go to the right internal ip rather than the one that DNS provides
[04:26] <diederick_> paradizelost: so is there another way to check my networked application?
[04:26] <flask-> alvaro: i have flash working in firefox amd64
[04:26] <mason_> brandon_: Printing in lpr is cut off a bit on the left, and sqashed to the top left ? about 1/4th the size of the page
[04:26] <elkbuntu> paradizelost, anyway, the scanner i have is part of the epson stylus cx1500 multifunction, and the info i have on it's compatability is varied. i've found information saying it does not work, but i also found information saying the snapscan thing works with it, and that's installed, but all i get is either black and green or white and pink
[04:26] <alvaro> flask-,  how did you do it?
[04:26] <flask-> alvaro: but don't you find it totally fucking weird that there's no AMD64 build for Firefox, given the popularity of the AMD64 platform?
[04:27] <paradizelost> elkbuntu: i've not used espon on linux, i refuse to purchase epson cuz their crap....
[04:27] <brandon_> mason_: see, lpr doesn't use the driver. it's a basic command that dumps data into the printer. try printing from an application like openorifice
[04:27] <flask-> alvaro: there's a forum post I followed
[04:27] <alvaro> which one?
[04:27] <Warbo> flask-: It is Flash that is the problem, and that is Macromedia (Adobe) 's fault
[04:27] <flask-> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112418
[04:27] <paradizelost> diederick_: you could connect to an outside computer and try to connect in
[04:27] <marcie> hello...i'm trying to get wine installed (for one bloody program). I've found a place with it...but not the tools
[04:28] <elkbuntu> paradizelost, they are just about the most economical printers about. in my pricerange at the time, i had a choice of a lexfart mf or an epson mf, so i chose epson :P
[04:28] <valehru> anyone here using enlightnement?
[04:28] <diederick_> paradizelost: yeah I thought the same.. and that does indeed work.. BUT
[04:28] <Warbo> valehru: 16 or 17?
[04:28] <brandon_> mason_: lpr shouldn't be used as the default way to print. it's an if-all-else-fails kind of thing
[04:28] <visik7> anyone here using bacula ?
[04:28] <diederick_> i've created a xml socket server, which runs here in my internal network, and is accessed using a forwarded port...
[04:28] <valehru> 16.6
[04:28] <marcie> lpr used to let me bring things to university to print that actually kept their format between programs
[04:29] <diederick_> Now, I'm using flash to connect to this server, BUT, flash makes the connection 'locally' i think
[04:29] <crazy_penguin> hi all
[04:29] <Warbo> valehru: I used 16 for about a year, what's the problem?
[04:29] <LinuxJones> marcie: what program is that ?
[04:29] <valehru> just after logging into it....I downloaded a theme earlier but I have no idea how to get it installed
[04:29] <paradizelost> diederick_: as in to localhost?
[04:29] <marcie> LinuxJones: When i used lpr?
[04:29] <paradizelost> diederick_: if it's connecting to another machine on the internal network, tell it to connect to the internal ip.
[04:29] <Warbo> valehru: There is a folder .enlightenment in your home, put it in the "themes" folder in there (in it's own folder)
[04:30] <crazy_penguin> i'm new to ubuntu/kubuntu. is the dapper the experiment or unstable version of ubuntu?
[04:30] <Warbo> valehru: Then ctrl-alt-end will restart E
[04:30] <dlirnet> e
[04:30] <paradizelost> crazy_penguin: it's the next version, final will be out june 1st.
[04:30] <diederick_> paradizelost: no. I've uploaded my flash movie to A, than I load the swf using my browser. The swf makes a connection to my internal xml server.
[04:30] <crazy_penguin> ok
[04:30] <paradizelost> !tell crazy_penguin about dapper
[04:30] <crazy_penguin> thx
[04:30] <LinuxJones> marcie: what program are you trying to print from ?
[04:30] <mason_> brandon_: yeah, even from Open office it still prints top-left
[04:30] <valehru> ok...brb
[04:30] <diederick_> paradizelost: and therfore I probably can't connect to it
[04:30] <valehru> thx
[04:31] <Yves> Hi there, I have serious trouble with printing since some days in dapper.... anyone got a hint what to look at.... ?
[04:31] <brandon_> mason_: top-left?
[04:31] <mason_> brandon_: yeah squashed to top left 1/4 of the page
[04:31] <mason_> i think this is what im looking for http://www.turboprint.de/english.html
[04:31] <crazy_penguin> and if i have an earlier version of ubuntu, can i upgrade or i have to install the newest version and remake all the configurations to be up to date?
[04:31] <paradizelost> diederick_: as i said, try connecting to an outside machine w/ remote desktop or vnc, and connect back in
[04:31] <mason_> its got MP500 & MP800 drivers
[04:32] <marcie> LinuxJones: I was moving between Microsoft Word, Unix Machines and Wordperfect...lpr wasn't all of it...but what i did was essentially trick the computer to printing to a disk and then i could run it elsewhere...come to think of it i may be mixing it up with when i did remote printing from a Unix machine for school
[04:32] <Yves> I use a hp 1022 usb printer, which worked fine, locally as well as shared over samba, until some days ago, I guess one of the last updates caused to problem
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> how do you regenerate the locales so python loves you again? mine doesnt seem to be  very happy with me
[04:32] <Warbo> marcie: rich text is supported by pretty much everything
[04:32] <brandon_> marcie: i've heard of that
[04:32] <diederick_> paradizelost: yes thanx
[04:33] <miracle> rtf?
[04:33] <paradizelost> diederick_: other than that, i don't think your going to accomplish what you want...
[04:33] <k-zed> greetings folks. i have a toshiba libretto 100ct, an old, small laptop that has a 800x480 tft screen with a neomagic chipset. i run ubuntu on it and been trying to get X.org working
[04:33] <Warbo> miracle: If you use "file extensions"
[04:33] <brandon_> mason_: you just need to configure the drivers that linux is using to properly print
[04:33] <miracle> oh
[04:33] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser: gen-locales?
[04:33] <marcie> yes...but i was doing it in 1995...i had some help from a friend though who knew Unix...but i learned how to do it fast enough...
[04:33] <miracle> o.o
[04:34] <k-zed> it works if i have a 800x480 screen resolution and at least 800x600 virtual desktop resolution; but the scrolling doesn't work
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak, not there, locale-gen perhaps?
[04:34] <k-zed> (i always see the top-left corner)
[04:34] <k-zed> also, if i set virtual desktop resolution to 800x480, i get a blank screen only
[04:34] <k-zed> any ideas?
[04:34] <gnomefreak> that be the one lol
[04:34] <miracle> 640x480?
[04:34] <k-zed> miracle: the tft has a native resolution of 800x480
[04:34] <marcie> what resolution do you normally use...some machines can only do some resolutions
[04:34] <miracle> lol
[04:34] <k-zed> i've seen win98 running on it that worked with this resolution
[04:35] <miracle> 16:9 or 16:10?
[04:35] <k-zed> also svgalib does work
[04:35] <marcie> hmm
[04:35] <HoboTurtle> clear
[04:35] <paradizelost> k-zed: there's a lot of stuff that won't even be accessible at those resolutions as far as menu buttons and such....../
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. no joy gnomefreak  :(
[04:35] <k-zed> paradizelost: i don't care, i don't even run gnome
[04:35] <paradizelost> k.
[04:35] <k-zed> i just want to get the X screen running
[04:35] <LinuxJones> marcie: that's a real kludge or varying systems and software :(
[04:35] <k-zed> it would be nice if at least the scrolling worked
[04:35] <marcie> i find that ubuntu uses a different resolution that i had one windows (and one that wouldn't be clear on windows) i don't know why it is clear on ubuntu but it is
[04:35] <diederick_> paradizelost: thanx!
[04:35] <paradizelost> if you just run the command X what does it do?
[04:35] <k-zed> but even nicer if i could disable the virtual desktop
[04:36] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser: those locales though right? (system wide ones)
[04:36] <paradizelost> do you get the funky background?
[04:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak, all locales are correct expect for "LC_ALL="
[04:36] <k-zed> paradizelost: it does start up
[04:36] <k-zed> blackbox works too
[04:36] <paradizelost> marcie: if you had an old version of windows on a laptop, it doesn't have cleartype
[04:36] <gnomefreak> this is dapper im assuming :(
[04:36] <k-zed> the problem is that while the screen is displayed, mouse works etc
[04:37] <paradizelost> k-zed: but gnome doesnt?
[04:37] <k-zed> paradizelost: the problem is that the virtual desktop is 800x600-sized, but doesn't scroll
[04:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak, actualy no, breezy chroot. it looks like `sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales` is what i want :)
[04:37] <k-zed> so the mouse disappears on the bottom of the physical screen
[04:37] <VincentMX> http://www.computerconnections.nl/index.html?lang=nl&target=d143.html <--- do any of these TV cards work with ubuntu/kubuntu?
[04:37] <paradizelost> k-zed: ahh. k. i dunno then.....
[04:37] <gnomefreak> thats the one
[04:37] <JuzzyDee> Howdy folks, anyone have any experience with spike proxy?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser: did this issue just happen?
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak, thanks mate
[04:38] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser: about a week ago that didnt fix the locales issue in breezy
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, its happened swince i made the chroot, but i only just cared then
[04:38] <marcie> LinuxJones: well yes. The thing was i learned Word and didn't like wordperfect. But i didn't have a printer. I could print out at school on wordperfect but it always got the footnotes wrong and i couldn't get them back to normal (they would go at about twice the text size). I worked on learning Wordperfect for a year before but hated it. My friend had access to a Unix machine and could print it if i brought it in..
[04:38] <marcie> .and later it was a way of sometimes getting things to work on the school printers without huge footnotes (they looked like i was trying to make the text look longer than it was)
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> (i havent used it for a month~)
[04:38] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser: let me know if it works
[04:38] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:39] <gill> hmm is there a way to get Kaffine full screen?
[04:39] <visik7> double click ?
[04:39] <NoUse> gill I believe its under view
[04:39] <NoUse> gill or something like Ctrl+Shift+F
[04:39] <VincentMX> gill: usually something like alt+f4 or alt+f
[04:40] <slackern> 'F' usually gives you fullscreen in movieplayers.
[04:40] <marcie> LinuxJones: For a year i had access to a very limited Unix machine (most functions turned off) and there really weren't enough printers...but we could send it to be printed elswhere and it would be delivered the next day...if you started ahead of time it worked...but it was wierd...
[04:40] <LinuxJones> marcie: how complicated are your documents, could you use openoffice or abiword across the board on all of your systems ? The situation you have now is just a mess :(
[04:40] <VincentMX> gill: but i'd reccommend you to use MPlayer
[04:40] <Warbo> gill: You said you didn't like Totem? Well Kaffeine is basically Totem for KDE :)
[04:41] <VincentMX> indeed Warbo
[04:41] <marcie> LinuxJones: I'm fine now...(i now own a printer...i must admit i haven't configured it yet for ubuntu (although thanks for pointing out it's not the best way of doing things...i wasn't too happy either. The Unix WOULD not print out at home (against the rules). I think over time things have become easier...this was around 1995
[04:41] <brandon_> gill: what's wrong with totem? don't badmouth totem
[04:41] <gill> Warbo: the diference is, totem doesn't work, and mplayer is content on playing the first chapter
[04:41] <shannon> help -- I'm trying to extract the firmware for my bcm4318 wireless device -- Idon't know which driver I'm supposed to download..
[04:41] <cwatson> Ubuntu makes printing a breeze
[04:42] <brandon_> cwatson: is that a pun?
[04:42] <LinuxJones> marcie: heh
[04:42] <Warbo> gill: Have you tried both totems? Maybe you have an alternative version of Kaffeine (gstreamer or Xine) and that is the fix, not the player itself
[04:42] <NoUse> gill xine is good option for DVD playback
[04:42] <cwatson> heh,
[04:42] <marcie> yes i'm hoping so...i haven't installed it yet (i'd like to get my sound card working first)...
[04:42] <marcie> My sound card isn't recognized...how do you work on that
[04:42] <cwatson> I had to build the alsa packages from source
[04:42] <brandon_> marcie: what card is it?
[04:42] <gill> Warbo: I use the xine engine for Kafine, I get  Failed to load '/usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639.xml': Failed to open file '/usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639.xml': No such file or directory for totem
[04:43] <cwatson> alsa-driver, alsa-lib, and alsa-util
[04:43] <VincentMX> http://www.computerconnections.nl/index.html?lang=nl&target=d143.html <--- do any of these TV cards work with ubuntu/kubuntu?
[04:43] <LinuxJones> marcie: how many sound cards are on your system ?
[04:43] <brandon_> gill: how long have you been using linux?
[04:43] <td-work> question: i heard NetworkManager 0.6.1 was in "official repositories" but only 0.4.* is in my list.  what am I doing wrong?
[04:43] <JuzzyDee> Anyone know where I can get some help with Spike Proxy?
[04:43] <gill> brandon_, since 1998
[04:43] <Warbo> gill: Is that totem-xine?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> gill: breezy or dapper?
[04:43] <gill> Warbo, no
[04:43] <marcie> brandon_, LinuxJones: I"m not sure...i'm still really learning here...there must be a way to check?
[04:43] <JuzzyDee> I just wanna run some tests on my site make sure it's not uber hackable
[04:43] <brandon_> gill: so you're not a noob?
[04:43] <marcie> one sound card though
[04:44] <gnomefreak> marcie: lspci
[04:44] <Warbo> gill: Then maybe Xine is the answer not specifically Kaffeine
[04:44] <brandon_> gill: how long have you been using debian?
[04:44] <LinuxJones> marcie: yeah do lspci -v in a terminal
[04:44] <gill> brandon_, not really no, I'm a programmer by trade, I don't often set up media computers.
[04:44] <gill> aptgetting totem-xine
[04:45] <arthur> Hi
[04:45] <brandon_> gill: there's also an extra codecs package for xine that you need
[04:45] <Warbo> libdvdcss
[04:45] <brandon_> gill: and you need libdvdcss2 to play dvds
[04:45] <gill> Warbo, I have that, dvd'jon kit ;-)
[04:45] <marcie> i checked...my computer is a IBM (i got it used...i don't care about brand names) Ubuntu couldn't see it
[04:46] <marcie> it's ethernet card...so i bought a cheap used one...apparently it says i have no sound care either now :-(
[04:46] <Warbo> gill: If you need really weird codecs then w32codecs has them, but you shouldn't need it
[04:46] <brandon_> marcie: problem is, ibm throws their own proprietary crap in there
[04:46] <paradizelost> marcie: you could be having some conflicts as well w/ older hardware
[04:46] <brandon_> Warbo: xine doesn't use that package
[04:46] <marcie> brandon: Well as i said i wouldn't but it new...but it was the best deal
[04:46] <Bilange> when apt-get says "needs to get 500mb of archives, 457mb will be used after unpacking", does that mean that it will use 900mb after its done?
[04:47] <marcie> Does that mean my printer may not work...geez
[04:47] <Warbo> brandon_: I thought that was for Xine and Mplayer and VLC while gstreamer used pitfdll
[04:47] <paradizelost> Bilange: in the short term, yes
[04:47] <arthur> Does anyone know how a Evolution (Email) "Filter" can be executed onto received Mails?
[04:47] <paradizelost> Bilange: you can clean out your apt cache though and free up that space.
[04:47] <brandon_> Warbo: mplayer sure as hell uses it
[04:47] <brandon_> Warbo: xine uses a package called "extra codecs"
[04:48] <LinuxJones> marcie: do lspci  | grep -i audio (see if anything comes up)
[04:48] <Bilange> paradizelost: of course ill do that-- if I do this upgrade im out of space, completly :)
[04:48] <marcie> it's an old machine P2 450...but it was a lot better than what i had before. I was thinking of moving to linux because it was more efficient and after a couple of crashes decided I WAS moving NOW
[04:48] <brandon_> Warbo: videolan uses all of its own codecs that are included witht he package, so it's a self-contained application
[04:48] <AFC> hi , can anyone tell me which ISO I need to download for a 64 bit intel processor
[04:48] <arthur> jeah VLC is fine
[04:48] <Warbo> brandon_: I thought they shared to keep space down
[04:48] <Bilange> paradizelost: thanks, and wish me luck (thats a dist-upgrade, btw)
[04:48] <brandon_> Warbo: gstreamer uses w32codecs
[04:49] <Warbo> brandon_: Does it?! Wow
[04:49] <brandon_> Warbo: no, they SHOULD share to keep space down dammit
[04:49] <brandon_> Warbo: especially since there's currently a legal issue with DTS and videolan that prevents it from being played in VLC
[04:49] <Yves> anybody else with printing problems since the last dist-upgrade in dapper ?
[04:50] <arthur> Does anyone know how a Evolution (Email) "Filter" can be executed onto received Mails?
[04:50] <td-work> question: i heard NetworkManager 0.6.1 was in "official repositories" but only 0.4.* is in my list.  what am I doing wrong?
[04:50] <marcie> it just gives me another blank command line
[04:50] <marcie> it's a pain but i'm sure i can get a used sound card for about what the Ethernet card cost me $5
[04:50] <LinuxJones> Yves: what happens when you run sudo gnome-cups-manager (if it's not listed, maybe you have to re-configure your printer again)
[04:50] <pip`>  !easyubuntu
[04:50] <Warbo> Well, my newly built CD failed as well so I'm off to mow the lawn, bye
[04:50] <LinuxJones> td-work: apt-get update
[04:50] <marcie> not sure it's worth fixing unless it is a lot more
[04:51] <brandon_> marcie: i can't believe there isn't a bacis driver that will run the stupid thing
[04:51] <Yves> LinuxJones: I have the printer installed and running, but when I look at its state in the cups webinterface, it says "printer fault"
[04:51] <pip`> !easyubuntu
[04:51] <marcie> ok then how do i find it...i'm new at this...
[04:51] <NoUse> td-work its 6.2 in dapper, 4.1 in breezy
[04:52] <paradizelost> pip`: are you trying to get easyubuntu to display in the main room?
[04:52] <brandon_> marcie: it should be loading automatically. linux runs a hardware-detection script every time it loads, and then loads modules for all of the hardware it finds automatically
[04:52] <brandon_> marcie: run the command "lspci"
[04:52] <brandon_> marcie: that will give you a detailed look at all of your pci devices
[04:52] <marcie> brandon...well yes i know...but my ethernet card was viewed as a firewire and wouldn't work no matter what i did...so i got an ethernet card...on the other hand i'm online now
[04:53] <marcie> ok i'll do that
[04:53] <paradizelost> marcie: possibly try dapper as well.....:D
[04:53] <LinuxJones> Yves: don't use the web interface stick to the gnome interface if you can. Remove your printer and re-add it again using gnome-cups-manager.
[04:53] <marcie> great it may well not be seeing my USB or Printer or sound card from what it says...
[04:53] <brandon_> marcie: find your sound card and record the data. then, run the command, "lsmod" which will give you a list of installed modules. check for a module that matches the sound card. usually, they have recognizable names
[04:54] <gill> ok now I have all the multimedia working
[04:54] <gill> time for the printer
[04:54] <paradizelost> marcie: can you cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp?
[04:55] <marcie> it sees a host bridgepci bridge isa bridge ide interfact, ok a usb controller a "bridge" my ethernet and a vga controller
[04:55] <Yves> LinuxJones: tried it, but it did not work... it worked until some days ago, without that we changed anything. I prefer the webinterface because I have to manage the printers over the internet and it's faster. I read the readme and gave the necessary permissions so that the web interface has all the rights it needs
[04:55] <marcie> paradize lost...is that a shell command...i don't recognize it?
[04:56] <cwatson> "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0" is fun
[04:56] <brandon_> marcie: are you sure you have a sound card?
[04:56] <marcie> ok i'll put it in (looking forward to seeing at what i get spit out at me)
[04:56] <marcie> yes i had sound that worked just fine in windows and i had a good ethernet connection in windows as well
[04:57] <gill> I go into Add a Printer, and under 'User a detexted printer' it has 7 entries each prefixed with Epson Stylus they read 'directory', 'file', 'ls', 'mtink', 'No', 'or' and 'such'
[04:57] <paradizelost> marcie: yes it's a shell command
[04:57] <LinuxJones> Yves: is this a local printer (connected to your computer) or a remote printer that your trying to access
[04:57] <gill> which one is useable if any?
[04:57] <marcie> it may not be a "card" When i put in the ethernet card (come to think of it) most of it seemed to be not on cards but integrated
[04:57] <brandon_> marcie: lspci should still find it
[04:57] <NoUse> gill that sounds like a bug, can you pastebin a screen shot?
[04:58] <gill> NoUse: sure thing
[04:58] <Yves> LinuxJones: yes, local by usb (hp 1022), here the problem (I guess) from the error_log of cups: E [10/May/2006:15:22:40 +0200]  PID 6766 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) crashed on signal 9! E [10/May/2006:15:22:40 +0200]  PID 6767 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/usb) crashed on signal 9!
[04:58] <void^> it's probably a good old isa soundcard
[04:58] <gill> void: I love good old sound cards they always work
[04:58] <LinuxJones> Yves: have you done and apt-get update/upgrade today ?
[04:59] <gill> NoUse: what is the paste bin?
[04:59] <NoUse> !tell gill about pastebin
[04:59] <void^> gill: especially if they're jumperless but _not_ pnp
[04:59] <marcie> I'm not typing the command in exactly right...can you give it to me again. Maybe the program should find it...so how do i make the program find it ;-)
[04:59] <Yves> LinuxJones: yes, I am fully up-to-date
[04:59] <bongshew> is there a graphical grub.conf editor?
[04:59] <LinuxJones> Yves: your running Breezy or Dapper ?
[05:00] <dorel_> dapper is so leet with glx
[05:00] <marcie> i think the computer is from around 1999 or so if that helps
[05:00] <dorel_> sorry, just felt like commenting :P
[05:01] <td-work> NoUse, how do I add a 6.2 source to my sources list?
[05:01] <gill> void: I had to use a good only 3 port PCI instead of the fubar nforce audio 6 port job
[05:01] <gill> old*
[05:01] <idefix> I got this error: There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[05:01] <gill> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13756
[05:01] <marcie> (and configured right it does pretty much all i want it too...video is a problem...sometimes decoding news programs...but plays mp3, uses the internet fine etc
[05:02] <NoUse> td-work you can't really, dapper comes out in a couple weeks though
[05:02] <treyh0> what's the "name" of the latest released ubuntu, 5.10?  that's what's stupid about apt sources.list, i can't enter a version, i have to enter some goofy name
[05:02] <treyh0> i know it's not warty
[05:02] <marcie> I'm primarily visual...but i would still like that sound card to work!
[05:02] <speedie> I installed JDK6Beta, but Firefox doesn't recognize that it's installed, any ideas?
[05:02] <idefix> should I just install all the libflacs and the flac and the liboggflacs, vdr and xmms-flac?
[05:02] <bongshew> treyh0: breezy badger i think
[05:03] <treyh0> bongshew: thanks
[05:03] <idefix> that is probably a crude solution
[05:03] <NoUse> gill I could be wrong but I'd be thats not supposed to happen :-), this dapper?
[05:03] <gill> NoUse: no this is Breezy
[05:03] <gill> NoUse: I will try and run from console
[05:03] <gill> NoUse, if I knew how
[05:03] <marcie> Am i going to have to put tons of new cards in here...that will be a pain the ass and an expense i'd prefer to miss, even if i tend to know where to look for used parts. It was annoying enough to get a new ethernet card
[05:04] <NoUse> gill its probably gnome-print-something
[05:04] <idefix> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins... what do I need to install?
[05:04] <gill> NoUse: doesn't look like it
[05:04] <gill> marcie, wha kind of motherboard do you have?
[05:05] <marcie> (I made a mistake earlier with a computer moving memory and fucked the machine so i'm still nervous...even though every other time i've moved things ...and i've done it a lot...it's been fine). Anyone else get the nerves temporarily?
[05:05] <marcie> uhm p2 450
[05:05] <marcie> if you want more specific...i can ask..
[05:05] <marcie> just give me the command line code
[05:06] <jksd> I just did a:
[05:06] <jksd> $ sudo cp * /windows/*
[05:06] <jksd> does this mean I've ovewritten my /windows dir?
[05:06] <jksd> :/
[05:07] <marcie> i've got a 64mb and 128 mb ram in it, the cd is only a CD rom, but that isn't a big priority for me (although getting my Mp3 player going is...and unless i can get wine to work i'll have no warranty left)
[05:07] <_jason> jksd: it just overwrote files with same name
[05:07] <jksd> _jason: but I was in directory /vmware
[05:08] <marcie> the computer is an ibm 300 pl
[05:08] <marcie> the only complaint i had before this was it only had 3 ports available in the front...it worked fine before
[05:08] <jksd> _jason: so it was like: $ sudo cp /vmware/* /windows/*
[05:08] <jksd> _jason: have I lost them?
[05:09] <_jason> jksd: depends on what was in vmware, any file that had the same name as a file in windows would get overwritten I believe
[05:09] <marcie> not that this is ubuntu's fault...rather stupid how they are allowed to do proprietary stuff still...i mean i had some problems in 1993 with a computer that played some of those tricks, but i thought by 1999 it was history
[05:09] <marcie> not like i could "buy" their products now anyway
[05:09] <jksd> _jason: I just had one file in that directory
[05:10] <paradizelost> marcie: hp/compaq still does it
[05:10] <BaniCity> hola ubuntu es espaol
[05:10] <_jason> jksd: so if you had a, b, c in vmware and c, d in window, your windows would then have a, b, c, d with c coming from vmware
[05:10] <BaniCity> #ubuntu-es no me entra
[05:10] <gnomefreak> !es
[05:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:10] <marcie> yes actually i did hear a rumour about them..but not about IBM and i wasn't sure "how much" it was proprietary...there should be some rules about it
[05:11] <jksd> _jason: I had one file called VMware-server-installer-e.x.p-23870.exe
[05:11] <jksd>  in /vmware
[05:11] <_jason> jksd: then your /windows should be fine
[05:11] <jksd> _jason: there's no VMware-server-installer-e.x.p-23870.exe
[05:11] <jksd>  in /windows
[05:11] <jksd> _jason: great :)
[05:11] <marcie> the first piece of extra memory i got wouldn't work either...ibm didn't like it...but the next piece worked...it was only then i had any idea i could run into trouble
[05:11] <jksd> _jason: that gave me a scare, thanks
[05:12] <bongshew> is there some interactive tool in ubuntu for editting the grub menu or should i just edit the menu.1st file
[05:12] <marcie> and i thought that was it
[05:12] <jksd> _jason: what's this all about though...
[05:12] <jksd> cp: omitting directory `/windows/Documents and Settings'
[05:12] <jksd> cp: omitting directory `/windows/found.000'
[05:12] <_jason> jksd: wait, I just reread your line... hmm.  It should actually copy everything to the last dfirectory in /windows
[05:12] <fran> hello a todos soy de espaa
[05:12] <fran> hola ke tal
[05:12] <_jason> jksd: echo /windows/*, what is the last thing it says?
[05:12] <marcie> can anyone give me an idea on how get wine running...i can't use my mp3 player until it's working
[05:12] <fran> no se ingle me he metido por error
[05:12] <_jason> !es
[05:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:13] <fran> alguien ke hable espaol
[05:13] <sasho> Hello there.. I'm linux newbie and I just downloaded some gnome themes gnome-themes-extras_0.8.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb .. How do I install them now?
[05:13] <fran> please
[05:13] <_jason> fran: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:13] <fran> ke
[05:13] <jksd> _jason: /windows/WUTemp
[05:13] <fran> nose
[05:13] <marcie> i know mp3's aren't big in the linux community...but my warranty doesn't exist if i can't make it look like it has been used by windows...something i found with almost all mp3 players i look at including ipods
[05:13] <_jason> jksd: check the inside of that, the cp command should have copied all the files in there (it would omit directories as you saw)
[05:14] <marcie> i know i need to change the repository. I found the wine file but i'm having trouble finding the file for configuring it
[05:14] <jksd> _jason: yeah that's exacty what it's done heh :)
[05:14] <salmiak> marcie, about the warranty, that's some really terrible information. Yuck
[05:14] <jksd> _jason: so all the other files are intact, I don't need to take them out of WUTemp?
[05:15] <sasho> Can you at least give me some url where I can read more about it? How do I install themes on ubuntu etc?
[05:15] <fran> alguien ke hable espaol
[05:15] <salty> hi all; i'm a newbie with a dillema - i've run out of ideas, and i dont know where to turn now - i'm a uni student with exams at the doorstep, i've a laptop with no internal HD (died about a week ago), and no USB boot support - i need a boot CD that will allow me to run Ubuntu off an external USB HD - i've googled for days, i've tried making boot disks according to the information available - but no go (the kernel wont acknowledge my externa
[05:15] <salty> l) - can anyone help, where can i get an ISO - or where am i going wrong!!
[05:15] <fran>  en esta sala
[05:15] <_jason> jksd: no everything should be there since you used cp, you just have extra copies of the files in the first level of /vmware and /windows in that directory
[05:15] <fran> gay_granada
[05:15] <marcie> slmiak: well i know the extended warranty on ipods worked that way...i didn't realize mine did until after i bought it...but i could have returned it...except they all the one's with any quality seemed the same and the other's warranties didn't cover anything
[05:15] <gnomefreak> fran: #ubuntu-es
[05:15] <gill> hmm, ok I go to the gnome printers website in search of my printer, an Epson D68 I find that the printer is suported by them. but I look in the add-printer list of Epsom drivers and it's not there.
[05:16] <bongshew> sasho: System - Preferences - Theme
[05:16] <jksd> _jason: did cp create the WUTemp?
[05:16] <_jason> jksd: nope
[05:16] <marcie> you know the cheapest one's...
[05:16] <jksd> _jason: oh ok
[05:16] <sasho> thanks bongshew
[05:16] <cion> hey all how do I install flashplayer on firefox 1.5.0.3?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cion about flash
[05:16] <_jason> cion: are you using breezy?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> cion: read your pm from ubotu
[05:17] <_jason> gnomefreak: does the wiki go into symlinking into /opt/firefox/plugins/ ?
[05:17] <marcie> so i need to use "their" disk to convert my files to mp3 and then move them to my player. Their disk means using windows. I think theorectically i could use another windows program but theirs works well enough...and if i'm stuck in windows...well it'sn hasn't been worth the trouble of  finding another program yet
[05:17] <cion> _jason Yeah
[05:17] <jksd> _jason: thanks for your help :)
[05:17] <_jason> jksd: np
[05:17] <gnomefreak> _jason: (the ff one does i thought
[05:17] <bongshew> time to see if my grub menu still works :] 
[05:17] <_jason> cion: so your firefox is in /opt then?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> !flash
[05:17] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:17] <cion> _jason yes
[05:17] <gnomefreak> looking now
[05:18] <_jason> cion: is flashplugin-nonfree installed?
[05:18] <marcie> I'm very happy with how it works and sounds...which is an important part of it.
[05:18] <cion> _jason i can't find the package even with multiverse reps on
[05:18] <_jason> cion: can you put your sources.list on pastebin please? pastebin url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:18] <gnomefreak> _jason: this one sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[05:19] <_jason> gnomefreak: I believe that's to fix some dumb hard coding of file locations in the plugin so that it uses esd
[05:19] <salmiak> marcie, i don't _really_ understand your problem...you want to convert your music files to mp3?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[05:19] <marcie> i know this is maybe for more basic stuff...anyone willing to change rooms and help me get my MP3 stuff working. I"m getting tired of the same old albums...and it's a small size disk (as far as i'm concerned i just moved the mp3s back and forth...and got the player for less...at the same quality as the more expensive one's cause of size)
[05:20] <gnomefreak> _jason: if you give me the command for it i will add it to the page
[05:20] <marcie> 1. My warranty is void if they can tell i've not used a Mac or Windows. I'm pretty sure they'll overlook it as long as it looks close to have be beeing used in Windows...but i need to be careful.
[05:21] <azurehuesofblue> I've tried using my restore discs and stuff and I keep getting this error... I've included a few lines for context but it's mostly the bottom couple lines... could somone look at it? http://pastebin.com/709510
[05:21] <marcie> #2 The program it came worth works well enough in creating the type of "mp3
[05:21] <marcie> mp3
[05:21] <salmiak> how could they track that you haven't been using windows/mac?
[05:21] <marcie> formt of the flashdrive
[05:21] <cion> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13757
[05:21] <_jason> gnomefreak: for breezy it would be sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/*flash* /opt/firefox/plugins   if they followed the wiki for firefox and installed flashpugin-nonfree already
[05:21] <salmiak> ntfs, fat32?
[05:21] <_jason> gnomefreak: I think,..
[05:22] <gnomefreak> ty adding it now ;)
[05:22] <NoUse> gill sorry I had to duck out for a second, any luck with the printer?
[05:22] <marcie> Also i'm not sure if the song listings will work if i don't use it in windows...although i'm more concerned about my warranty. I don't expect it to break...but a warranty is important and i just got it in February
[05:22] <_jason> cion: you only have multiverse for backports.  Do you want to fix this by editing that file or using synaptic?
[05:23] <cion> _jason: I'll follow ur steps so u decide
[05:23] <kailash> hello all
[05:23] <_jason> cion: ok, do this: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[05:23] <marcie> I'm concerned i might accidently erase the bit of the program that runs the machine (about 5mb) on the flashdrive if i'm not working in windows...you CAN"T do that in windows...otherwise i can get it to reformat itself for windows (it can do that).
[05:23] <cion> roger go ahead
[05:23] <marcie> As i said...even if there is some sign of linux i don't think they would care...but i NEED to keep that file safe
[05:24] <salmiak> ah, but hmm...ipod?
[05:24] <_jason> cion: add the word `` multiverse'' to the end of lines 20,21,36, and 37
[05:24] <marcie> i don't know ipods rules...i know their extended warranty is the same and i believe if that's the case their general warranty is the same
[05:24] <Tedd> IPod's suck.
[05:24] <paradizelost> marcie: you could do a dd if=/dev/usbdevice of=/home/usbdrivebackup
[05:24] <Tedd> They break and scratch easily, they're way overpriced, and they get more credit than they deserve.
[05:24] <gill> I agree, apples sucks apples
[05:24] <HedgeMage> How can I reduce the sensitivity of my laptop's touch pad? something in a recent update made it so sensitive it's driving me nuts
[05:25] <marcie> and personally i don't like IPODS. They are expensive for what they do. When they first introduced them in Britain they wouldn't replace a dead battery (you needed to buy a new ipod). I"m not in Britain...but it took a humongous fuss to get that fixed, which turns me off.
[05:25] <NoUse> Tedd the creatie nomads are now more expenseive that ipods
[05:25] <salmiak> yeah, backup the usb device. That'd be smart
[05:25] <cion> _jason ok done
[05:25] <Tedd> NoUse, then don't get a creative nomad
[05:25] <frfx2> i have installed some little games with synaptic.but the games don't appear in Applications > Games.if i want to play them i must go to /usr/games/ is there a solution?
[05:25] <Tedd> Go with whta I did, and get the Zen MicroPhoto
[05:25] <Tedd> I can honestly reccomend it
[05:25] <_jason> cion: save the file, run 'sudo apt-get update', then try installing flashplugin-nonfree again
[05:26] <NoUse> Tedd my point is they are pretty much on par with other portable media devices as far as price
[05:26] <marcie> The stores that sell IPODS here have a DOA policy. Most things can be exchanged during a warranty if they break. Broken IPOD that wasn't "Dead on arrival" when you bought it needed to (generally) go back to Apple...all that type of stuff doesn't make me that interested in ipods
[05:26] <Tedd> It's a great piece of hardware, and if you splurge and spend the extra 40 for the 2-year-warranty, you're golden.
[05:26] <cion> _jason ok
[05:26] <azurehuesofblue> how do I fix this, I'm bummed... http://pastebin.com/709510
[05:26] <Tedd> As far as price goes, nouse, you have me. But in terms of reliability and capabilities, they're very different things
[05:27] <_jason> azurehuesofblue: what is http://theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/ ?
[05:27] <cion> _jason ok got it
[05:27] <kailash> hello all am wondering how do I share an internet connection with other computers? I mean I have a Hoary box and connect to the adsl through a eagle-usb modem .. I need to share internet to other computers
[05:27] <cion> _jason that's it?
[05:27] <_jason> azurehuesofblue: (I think that's for listen and that breezy repo doesn't exist anymore)  I would just remove it from your sources.list
[05:27] <marcie> you are golden but they won't fix them in the city...and it says right on the extended warranty only valid if you use Mac or Windows...it may be a country thing that they can do that...maybe it can be challenged in court but it would cost way more than the ipod
[05:27] <_jason> cion: nope
[05:28] <_jason> cion: ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/*flash*  <-- what does that return?
[05:28] <cion> _jason ok go ahead
[05:28] <marcie> i was able to get a warranty that extended my mp3 player to 3 years for $30...the IPOD one here is $60-70 for TWO years
[05:28] <marcie> and if mine breaks they'll fix it here...not ship it elsewhere...
[05:28] <azurehuesofblue> ok yeah, I want to get rid of it, I don't want it, I think it goes with some crappy media player... how do i remove it... ok hol up sorry ill put that.
[05:28] <marcie> Now what was someone saying about backing up the file...i wasn't sure how to do that
[05:28] <kailash> hello all am wondering how do I share an internet connection with other computers? I mean I have a Hoary box and connect to the adsl through a eagle-usb modem .. I need to share internet to other computers
[05:29] <dooglus> azurehuesofblue: the correct URL is http://theli.free.fr/packages/_breezy_obsoltete/
[05:29] <salmiak> dd if=/dev/usbdevice of=/home/usbdrivebackup
[05:29] <paradizelost> marcie: dd if=/dev/usbdevice of=/home/usbbackup
[05:29] <_jason> azurehuesofblue: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'    <-- do that and then delete the line with http://theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/ in it, then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[05:29] <marcie> ok so if i connect the mp3 player and then type it in?
[05:29] <marcie> (i love hacks...but i don't know all that many)
[05:29] <cion> _jason /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/flashplayer.xpt
[05:29] <cion> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[05:29] <salmiak> marcie, man dd ;)
[05:30] <_jason> cion: ok, now do this: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/*flash* /opt/firefox/plugins
[05:30] <azurehuesofblue> ok so forget the dooglus comment (sorry dooglus just trying to get clear) _jason?
[05:30] <paradizelost> marcie: just make sure you don't do it the other way around or you'll erase your device....
[05:30] <HedgeMage> fwiw, it sounds like marcie and I share the same opinion of iPods, and I <3 my iRiver (native ogg support, yay!, extended warranty for 3 years WITH accidental damage and theft insurance $20 via amazon.com)
[05:30] <_jason> azurehuesofblue: if you want to use that player, then do what dooglus said.  If you don't want that repository, then delete as I said
[05:30] <HedgeMage> oh, and the particular one I have has a waterproofing system for underwater fun
[05:30] <dooglus> azurehuesofblue: if you don't want that repository, delete the line(s) from /etc/apt/source.list; if you do want it, fix the URL
[05:30] <salmiak> it copies whatever you want. IF = read from file, OF = write to file
[05:30] <gill> how can I tell wat version of cups I have?
[05:31] <marcie> jason ?
[05:31] <paradizelost> i have a 512mb rio, works great, and i download music w/ napster and itunes, i just use tunebite to re-record the encoded files to a standard mp3
[05:31] <NoUse> gill dpkg -l | grep cups
[05:31] <_jason> marcie: ?
[05:31] <azurehuesofblue> I went to the website... it's some shitty player lol... Imma get rid of it. :)
[05:31] <gnomefreak> _jason: i added it
[05:31] <Alpha2x> Anyone here who could help me with a small usb issue
[05:31] <_jason> gnomefreak: thanks
[05:31] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:31] <marcie> sorry jason wrong person...paradizelost...what do you mean
[05:31] <cion> _jason done
[05:32] <NoUse> !justask
[05:32] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[05:32] <_jason> cion: now close all instances of firefox, start it again, and visit http://badgerbadgerbadger.com/
[05:32] <paradizelost> marcie: what do i mean about what?
[05:32] <Alpha2x> ok basicaly ive just got a KVM with has a built in hub, and ubuntu isnt detecting any of the kvm when i switch to it
[05:32] <kailash> hello all am wondering how do I share an internet connection with other computers? I mean I have a Hoary box and connect to the adsl through a eagle-usb modem .. I need to share internet to other computers
[05:33] <marcie> HMM...are you saying i can put totally different software on it to display the songs and all that?
[05:33] <paradizelost> kailash: if the usb-modem shows up as an eth# just use firestarter to set up your rules
[05:33] <salmiak> kailash, i'd recommend using firestarter :)
[05:33] <cion> _jason excelent
[05:33] <kailash> thx mates
[05:33] <cion> _jason thx man
[05:33] <NoUse> Alpha2x run 'dmesg' and see if outputs anything about your hub/kvm
[05:33] <_jason> cion: np
[05:33] <marcie> AND that i can save the original file on it so that if  reloaded it it would work like before...keeping the warranty good
[05:33] <brandon_> kailash: you need what's called a router
[05:33] <Alpha2x> ok
[05:33] <kailash> well i want ubuntu b a router
[05:33] <salmiak> kailash, i'm using ubuntu as router here ;)=
[05:33] <paradizelost> marcie: basically.  but bear in mind, if you dd if=/home/newfile of=/dev/usbdevice it would overwrite the filesystem
[05:34] <salmiak> ;)*
[05:34] <kailash> iptables
[05:34] <kailash> ?
[05:34] <salmiak> yup
[05:34] <azurehuesofblue> _jason, this is a mess, it said none of the athentication protocols specified are host supported authentication failed and my source.list file is blank
[05:34] <marcie> It's on some hidden partion...i can't see the file...i know it is there because of the space it takes and by reading the manual
[05:34] <brandon_> kailash: you can do that, but it will not function as well as a good router would
[05:34] <kailash> god thats a head ache
[05:34] <marcie> (the part that runs the player now)
[05:34] <paradizelost> marcie: can you cfdisk /dev/usbdevice?  should show you what's there
[05:34] <Alpha2x> yeah its showing up there
[05:34] <_jason> azurehuesofblue: paste exactly what you typed please (you can ignore that warning that is output but your sources hsould not be empty :))
[05:34] <salmiak> brandon_, yes it works better than an ordinary router?
[05:34] <marcie> I'll do that
[05:35] <marcie> (if nothing else i'll be recharging it...but as i said i went for a small drive but better quality...so i'm getting bored
[05:35] <paradizelost> marcie: but remember, it could hose the device...
[05:35] <brandon_> salmiak: now see here..
[05:36] <paradizelost> if you overwrite the system...
[05:36] <azurehuesofblue> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:36] <azurehuesofblue> that's exactly what I tyeped _jason
[05:36] <_jason> azurehuesofblue: you need the quotes like I put them
[05:36] <salmiak> brandon_, my brother plays alot and he says he got better ping and higher speed than before...Ok, to be honest, our router sucked. D-link 604 ;)
[05:36] <azurehuesofblue> ok sorry, brb
[05:36] <paradizelost> !disclaimer
[05:36] <Alpha2x> NoUse, Its appearing there
[05:36] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[05:36] <dooglus> azurehuesofblue: did that show you a bunch of lines beginning with "deb "?
[05:36] <NoUse> Alpha2x what part of the KVM should ubuntu be detecting and what should it be doing?
[05:36] <marcie> well the reason i want to use wine is because i don't want to hose the device...to be honest i'm low income, had a temporary job during the last election and this was one of my two "treats" for 6 weeks of work
[05:37] <Alpha2x> well its supposed to be routing through a usb mouse and headset
[05:37] <frfx2>  i have installed some little games with synaptic.but the games don't appear in Applications > Games.if i want to play them i must go to /usr/games/ is there a solution?
[05:37] <gnomefreak> _jason: im thinking we need to find atleast a work around for that lol
[05:37] <Alpha2x> its doing the keyboard (PS2) and screen fine
[05:37] <gill> frfx2 have you tried the menu editor?
[05:37] <marcie> (sorry if that sounds pathetic...i guess it does, forget it)
[05:37] <Alpha2x> if i pluged the receiver in directly it works
[05:37] <paradizelost> salmiak: the linksys/dlink/belkin etc... routers are very limited, they don't have much memory, etc.. while they're great for general internet use, i wouldn't not use a linux machine as a router.
[05:38] <paradizelost> salmiak: they are a lot more flexible, plus can use as much memory as you have in the system for handling the traffice
[05:38] <NoUse> Alpha2x does this device require software when used on Windows?
[05:38] <Alpha2x> nope it just works
[05:38] <dooglus> paradizelost: linksys routers *are* linux machines, aren't they?
[05:38] <NoUse> Alpha2x when you plug the mouse into the hub does it get registed in dmesg?
[05:38] <marcie> OTOH generally i can get old computers to work fine...this machine is a real upgrade from my P2 200...
[05:39] <dinamizador> hola
[05:39] <azurehuesofblue> _jason, same old rejection message, but at least my sources.list is alive with activity, I'll look for the url
[05:39] <marcie> new operating systems take longer
[05:39] <salmiak> paradizelost, i didn't really follow you there...you would NOT use a linux machine as router, because they are more flexible?
[05:39] <mcrawfor> hey guys, I'm using the apache2-ssl-certificate program to create my own ssl certs.  How can I make them last longer than a month! it only signs them for a tiny period and I have to re-run the program.
[05:39] <dooglus> salmiak: he said he would not not use a linux machine.
[05:39] <paradizelost> dooglus: yes, but they have all of about 8mb memory.
[05:40] <azurehuesofblue> deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/ ./
[05:40] <azurehuesofblue> ## created by arnielistenadded
[05:40] <paradizelost> salmiak: by saying i wouldn't not use a linux machine, it says i would only use a linux machine...
[05:40] <kailash> i'd rather use my linux box than buy a router
[05:40] <frfx2> gill: yeah that works but now i dont have a icon in my Applications > Games (just a standard window)
[05:40] <azurehuesofblue> _jason, that was the last line
[05:40] <kailash> but configuring iptables is a headache
[05:40] <dooglus> azurehuesofblue: just delete all the lines which mention theli.free.fr
[05:40] <_jason> azurehuesofblue: you can delete those two, then save, and run 'sudo apt-get update' without the quotes in your terminal
[05:40] <gill> frfx2: I don't understand, as long as you add the games you want to the menu using the same commands as you use in /usr/games
[05:41] <kailash> any good tutorials you can point me to?
[05:41] <dooglus> _jason: why do you suggest 'sudo' sometimes and 'gksudo' others?  is there any advantage of one over the other?  I use 'sudo' for everything, myself.
[05:41] <gnomefreak> dooglus: are you on breezy?
[05:41] <Alpha2x> NoUse, it doesnt appear so
[05:41] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I'm on XP at the moment.
[05:41] <salmiak> paradizelost, confuse me more ;) It may be because my english is not really that great. I'm swedish, you see...But i do not at all understand what you mean .You were being ironic? ;)
[05:41] <azurehuesofblue> cool, thank you both dooglus and _jason, I was stressn.
[05:41] <gnomefreak> :(
[05:41] <dooglus> gnomefreak: other times I alternate between dapper and sid
[05:41] <_jason> dooglus: gksudo for gui stuff
[05:41] <gnomefreak> dooglus: gksudo is for gui apps
[05:41] <NoUse> Alpha2x and if you plug it straight into the computer it works?
[05:41] <_jason> azurehuesofblue: np
[05:41] <paradizelost> salmiak: no, it's called a double negative
[05:41] <dooglus> _jason: sudo works for gui stuff too for me
[05:41] <marcie> Hedgemaze...would you be willing to move to another channel to give me some help on this...i know it is more than basic, which is what i guess this is for...but having MP# player working is important to me
[05:42] <paradizelost> salmiak: lets say you subtract a negative number
[05:42] <paradizelost> salmiak: that's the same as adding the number...
[05:42] <salmiak> paradizelost, crap, didn't see the "not". :) sorry then
[05:42] <_jason> dooglus: yes, but you run the risk of having an app writing to config files in your $HOME as root and changing ownership (seems to happen with k3b for example)
[05:42] <Alpha2x> NoUse, Yeah if i plug both devices in directly they work fine
[05:42] <gnomefreak> can i have 3 breezy users run a command for me and tell me if it opens a blank file or not?
[05:42] <NoUse> Alpha2x can you give me the model of this kvm/hub?
[05:42] <_jason> dooglus: like some of those .Xauthority ownership problems we see sometimes are most likely due to something like that
[05:42] <dooglus> _jason: I think that was an old k3b bug.  It doesn't happen any more, does it.
[05:43] <paradizelost> dooglus: _jason,  why not just log in to gnome as root and run the stuff you need??? ;)
[05:43] <kailash> well firestarter is a firewall no?
[05:43] <dooglus> paradizelost: I don't have a root password set
[05:43] <kailash> how cud it help me?
[05:43] <paradizelost> kailash: it's a firewall configuration program
[05:43] <dooglus> paradizelost: and I don't run GNOME, either
[05:43] <marcie> root password is the same as what you sign in as
[05:43] <gnomefreak> kailash: firestarter is a frontend to the iptables
[05:43] <paradizelost> kailash: you tell it what is your internal and what is your external
[05:43] <dooglus> marcie: yeah, right.
[05:43] <kailash> ah kewl
[05:43] <kailash> thanks
[05:43] <paradizelost> kailash: and it configures everything for you
[05:43] <Alpha2x> NoUse, its an unbranded one i got from ebuyer
[05:44] <kailash> thanks mates
[05:44] <marcie> doogplus: i learn quickly...but i still need to learn it
[05:44] <paradizelost> dooglus: well, kde, blackbox, fluxbox evolution, whatever you run...
[05:44] <Alpha2x> i can give u a link to a manual for it
[05:44] <frfx2> gill: yes but now i dont have a little image before the name of the game.i can add a image to the entry but i dont know where the icon of the game is
[05:44] <paradizelost> dooglus: it was meant as a sarcastic remark...
[05:44] <dooglus> marcie: the root password and the user password are quite different.  by default there is no root password in ubuntu, the root account is locked if you use the basic install method
[05:44] <paradizelost> !root
[05:44] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:45] <NoUse> Alpha2x I'm out of ideas, you might try reporting it as a bug
[05:45] <r0cc0> which software to choose for burning cd and dvds?
[05:45] <paradizelost> dooglus: it's not locked per-se,  you could sudo su -
[05:45] <NoUse> !tell Alpha2x about bugs
[05:45] <NoUse> !tell Alpha2x about bug
[05:45] <dooglus> paradizelost: the account is locked, as in "passwd -l"
[05:45] <marcie> doogplus: well as long as put the Seudo in doesn't it work the same way...(after you ask to move to the terminal and the password is your sign in?) God I'd hate to give bad answers...
[05:45] <minimec> kailash: Hi. I always used 'bastille' for my router-config. It's some kind of router/firewall Software
[05:45] <gill> frfx2: try looking in /usr/local/share/ or /usr/share/ you can also use the locate program to great effect
[05:46] <kailash> bastille? is it user friendly?
[05:46] <paradizelost> minimec: there's lots of programs to automatically configure iptables
[05:46] <salmiak> but isn't it possible to write "sudo bash" to get a root terminal?
[05:46] <dooglus> marcie: you can use sudo to run commands as root, but not to log in to GNOME as root
[05:46] <minimec> kailash: You mught love that. The configuration is some kind of 'question-answer game' ;)
[05:46] <kailash> kewl
[05:46] <teletubbie> hi
[05:46] <kailash> gonna give it a shot thanks minimec
[05:47] <marcie> dooglus: ah i see...i tend to think of doing anything as root as being command line
[05:47] <kailash> are you french?
[05:47] <teletubbie> can gparted resize partitions?
[05:47] <NoUse> teletubbie yes
[05:47] <marcie> dooglus: didn't realize there was any other way
[05:47] <vengeful>  im trying to get gnome network manager working in xubuntu
[05:47] <dooglus> salmiak: you can get a root terminal using 'sudo -i', 'sudo -s', 'sudo bash', or the old favourite 'sudo su -'
[05:47] <paradizelost> dooglus: you can't log into gnome as root, unless you configure gdm/kdm to allow root logins anyways.
[05:47] <vengeful> i have it set to start gnome preferences and i have the taskbar up but i dont see the applet and i cant add it the usual way to add applets
[05:47] <ferronica> hello room
[05:47] <HedgeMage> hi ferronica
[05:48] <kailash> kewl there is internet connection sharing in firestarter!
[05:48] <marcie> well i'm going to sign off for now
[05:48] <marcie> bye
[05:48] <ferronica> HedgeMage: hi
[05:48] <dooglus> paradizelost: you don't have to use gdm at all - a 'startx' from a vc will run GNOME
[05:48] <MonsieurBon> hello
[05:48] <paradizelost> also true.
[05:48] <salmiak> kailash, that's partly what it's for :)
[05:48] <paradizelost> but it's easer to add the line to allow root logins....
[05:48] <MonsieurBon> I'm looking for the bbips script mentioned here: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#bbips Does someone know where to find it?
[05:48] <ferronica> HedgeMage: Do u know how to update new firefox 1.5, bcoz Check for update option is DIM..
[05:49] <paradizelost> kailash: the only place i haven't liked firetsarter is if you have multiple internal interfaces.
[05:49] <paradizelost>  wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/bbips.0.3.2.sh
[05:49] <kailash> wow whats that?
[05:49] <dooglus> ferronica: in ubuntu firefox doesn't update itself, the same as the other packages don't.  updates are handled by APT
[05:49] <kailash> i mean multiple internal interfaces
[05:49] <MonsieurBon> paradizelost, I would not ask, if it was there!
[05:49] <paradizelost> MonsieurBon: you could use web.archive.org or google cache and see if it's there
[05:50] <slackern> MonsieurBon: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=139927 there you got it
[05:50] <HedgeMage> ferronica: user apt (Update manager and synaptic are both front-ends for this)
[05:50] <ferronica> dooglus: sorry i didnt get you..
[05:50] <paradizelost> kailash: one interface connected to the internet, and a few network cards on the inside
[05:50] <paradizelost> say you want to have a couple of networks
[05:50] <ferronica> HedgeMage:  sudo apt-get update firefox
[05:50] <MonsieurBon> slackern, thx alot
[05:50] <paradizelost> or share w/ your own apt. w/ access to samba or stuff, and another apt. w/ only internet access.
[05:51] <ferronica> HedgeMage:  like this???
[05:51] <slackern> MonsieurBon: just browse their archive for that older version
[05:51] <kailash> oh.. well I have one usb modem and one network card
[05:51] <frfx2> gill: nothing there :(
[05:51] <paradizelost> kailash: so it should work fine for you
[05:51] <dooglus> ferronica: "breezy" is a set of versions of software.  It came with firefox 1.0.4 or something.  it's not going to change to include 1.5.  you can install 1.5 yourself if you like, but it's not part of breezy, 'cos breezy came out before firefox 1.5 did
[05:51] <kailash> phew
[05:51] <MonsieurBon> slackern, I suppose the newer will do!
[05:51] <paradizelost> ferronica: you could install dapper.
[05:51] <paradizelost> ferronica: comes w/ 1.5.0.2
[05:52] <ferronica1> ???
[05:52] <dooglus> ferronica: dapper comes with 1.5.0.2, last I saw.  I don't know why not 1.5.0.3, maybe that will change before final release.
[05:52] <salmiak> kailash, one thing: will you use a network cable directly to another computer, or will you use a switch/hub between your computer and the other computer/s in the house?
[05:52] <kailash> btw don't you people find drake beta installation a lill bit buggy?
[05:52] <matthinckley> hello everyone
[05:52] <kailash> no ill use it directly
[05:52] <slackern> kailash: Only problem i have is with the ati drivers right now
[05:52] <kailash> what if i had a hub?
[05:52] <HedgeMage> ferronica: yep
[05:52] <slackern> kailash: and well those are up to ati to fix.
[05:52] <paradizelost> kailash: not too bad.  has much better support for quite a few things
[05:52] <dooglus> kailash: report any bugs you find to launchpad.  within a matter of days they'll be marked as 'minor' and ignored forever more :)
[05:52] <SkunkWorks> Could someone point me to info on installing a working mysql on ubuntu. (and has anyone had luck with it)  4 or 5
[05:52] <paradizelost> kailash: at least on flight 7
[05:52] <ferronica1> HedgeMage: Okay
[05:52] <shionuma> Anyone able to tell me how to set an External HD as default stoarage, and default place to install Applications when reunning from a Live CD
[05:52] <shionuma> ?
[05:53] <kailash> ok mates
[05:53] <HedgeMage> ferronica: if you are still on breezy (as opposed to Dapper) I think youmay have to do it manually
[05:53] <salmiak> kailash, then you'll need a, i'm not sure about the english word, "cross cable" (any native english/american confirm this)
[05:53] <gnomefreak> _jason: the "" with gksdo gedit is that alt+f2 and/or terminal?
[05:53] <HedgeMage> ferronica: I'm on Dapper so I couldn't tell you for sure
[05:53] <kailash> yeah i have one
[05:53] <dooglus> salmiak: "crossover cable" I think
[05:53] <matthinckley> anyone: is there a way to change the association timeout in Network Manager to more than 60 seconds?  I have everything working but at school I get this error: NetworkManager: <information>   Activation (wlan0/wireless): association took too long (>60s), failing activation.
[05:53] <salmiak> dooglus, ok ;)
[05:54] <ferronica1> HedgeMage: so there is no way to upgrade firefox 1.5
[05:54] <salmiak> kailash, then just go for it and use the power of linux as router ;)
[05:54] <NoUse> !tell ferronica1 about ff1.5
[05:54] <kailash> yeah sure I will!
[05:54] <HedgeMage> thanks NoUse I can never remember that one
[05:54] <gill> YAY!
[05:54] <kailash> it won't be a prob to share the net with windows would it?
[05:54] <frfx2> !ff1.5
[05:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:54] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: someone helped you for a few hours installing it lastweek what happened?
[05:54] <dooglus> ferronica: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:54] <salmiak> kailash, nope
[05:55] <kailash> ah ok
[05:55] <salmiak> kailash, i'm doing that ;)
[05:55] <kailash> salmiak: :)
[05:55] <dinamizador> holaaaaaaaa
[05:56] <gill> The printer works oh yes it does!
[05:56] <NoUse> gill what did it take?
[05:56] <salmiak> dinamizador, hello... ;P
[05:56] <gill> NoUse: gutenprint 5.0.0rc2
[05:56] <NoUse> gill interesting, cool
[05:56] <gnomefreak> gill: an epson printer?
[05:56] <gill> NoUse: and alot of interesting installing
[05:56] <kailash> apart from nvu ... do we have any "worthwhile" wysiwyg website ides on linux??
[05:56] <ferronica1> ~$ chown -R u+w /home/username/firefox
[05:56] <gill> gnomefreak, yes Epson stylus D68
[05:57] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: i did
[05:57] <gnomefreak> gill: yeah seen that a few times
[05:57] <gill> gnomefreak, after everything it detected the model
[05:57] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: everything gose fine, but check for update option is DIM
[05:57] <gill> gnomefreak, the printer is a bit slow though...
[05:57] <gnomefreak> gill: normally gimp-print and gutenprint (from repos should work ok)
[05:57] <xChipx> Hi! has anyone experienced problem with installing dapper drake from the live-cd? I get loads of problems. First it doesn't boot up Xorg, not even if I change the nv driver to vesa. I got it working, booting up with 1280x1024 console and using fbdev driver. (sort of, only half screen, b&w). Then when I got to the partition manager I experienced other problems. First it destroyed my partition when it tried to resize it to make room for anot
[05:57] <xChipx> partition, then, when I created the partitions in advance in windows, the installer listed them as 0byte?!
[05:58] <xChipx> I haven't read about anyone else having these problems?
[05:58] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: i dont think you can update that way
[05:58] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: Do u know how to update it???
[05:58] <loothinker> where can i get the source.list file for dapper?
[05:58] <gill> gnomefreak, this model was not in the list and all the epson drivers I tryed made the printer spew paper without printing anything
[05:58] <paradizelost> xChipx: which version of the livecd are you using?
[05:58] <paradizelost> xChipx: because i know on an older version of the install cd it wasn't working right.
[05:58] <xChipx> paradizelost: I tried both beta 2 and flight 7
[05:58] <matthinckley> xChipx: I never got the livecd installer to work, dapper beta1 or beta2
[05:58] <dooglus> loothinker: do you have breezy already?
[05:58] <paradizelost> i don't know why you'd want ot install from a livecd anyways.....
[05:58] <loothinker> yes
[05:59] <xChipx> I wanted to try out the spiffy graphical installer :)
[05:59] <matthinckley> I found the text installer to be much more reliable
[05:59] <paradizelost> loothinker: try the #ubuntu+1 room...
[05:59] <gnomefreak> gill: ok it might be the D series than the ones from repos worked fine for my C64
[05:59] <dooglus> loothinker: to upgrade, just run "sudo update-manager -d" and it will do everything for you when you click on the 'dapper' button
[05:59] <kailash> i love the text install
[05:59] <kailash> quick n sweet
[05:59] <xChipx> matthinckley: well, so it seems :)
[05:59] <minimec> xChipx: I heard about some problems, using the live-cd as install medium (I think it is because of the new install gui). I used the netinstall image. It works without problems.
[05:59] <gill> gnomefreak, bare that in mind in someone asks about the epson d seires in this room
[05:59] <xChipx> I'm just interested in the "converting-newbie-factor"
[05:59] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: TELL ME PLEASE :(
[05:59] <loothinker> o,thanks
[06:00] <gnomefreak> i will gill thankyou
[06:00] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: can you please hold on a min
[06:00] <matthinckley> xChipX: lol yeah, I like the new text installer too, you can set your resolution for your shell before you install, and it has pretty menu
[06:00] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: OKAY :I
[06:00] <paradizelost> !tell ferronica about shouting
[06:00] <gill> the only other wierd problem is the lack of fdd, which seems to be a hardware issue
[06:01] <paradizelost> ferronica don't shout
[06:01] <paradizelost> ferronica1: don't shout
[06:01] <gnu2it2> i need to setup to telnet to a SCO unix from my ubuntu box. they said to set for sco ansi color terminal emultion. how do i do this?
[06:01] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: doesnt it check for updates when it gets open still?
[06:01] <xChipx> heh. Ok, I'll use the text-installer. I just need to know if someone else with a Geforce MX 5200 is experiencing problems in nv-driver with an installed ubuntu. I just get vertical yellow stripes..
[06:01] <xChipx> (on the live cd)
[06:02] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: to update firefox open terminal type gksudo firefox than once its open see if you can click the update thing in firefoxs menu
[06:03] <loothinker> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cn/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 85.133.25.7 80] 
[06:03] <loothinker> why?
[06:04] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: while you are doing that _dont_ go browsing please close and restart firefox the normal way before browsing
[06:04] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: thanx my GOOD FRIENDit works
[06:04] <loothinker> and "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz" is not a zip file
[06:05] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: i know it does its on the ff1.5 website that everyone gave you a link for
[06:05] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: from where u got all these commandss
[06:05] <gnomefreak> ^^^ read above statment
[06:05] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[06:05] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:06] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: but where is my UBUNTU default firefox 1.0.8??/
[06:06] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: there is no ff 1.0.8 that i've ever heard of.  it went from 1.0.7 to 1.5
[06:06] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: it not being used as default its still on system
[06:06] <paradizelost> ferronica1: dapper starts w/ 1.5
[06:07] <gnomefreak> paradizelost: 1.0.8 is breezy normal ff updates
[06:07] <gnomefreak> paradizelost: the repos got 1.0.8 in breezy
[06:07] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: I think Dapper beta is available
[06:07] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: yes it is
[06:07] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: i dont like beta
[06:08] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: i would wait than
[06:08] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: what Extensins r u using for firefox???
[06:08] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: none
[06:08] <matth-w> Question about installing a script for xchat, needing to install other things for the script also, but can't find Perl in the add applications.
[06:09] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: none WHY???
[06:09] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: no need for them i dont use firefox often enough
[06:09] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: then what u use???
[06:09] <slackern> I use 'adblock', 'flashblock' and 'adblock g filterset' for my firefox.
[06:09] <gnomefreak> links2
[06:09] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: OPERA
[06:09] <gill> you would have thought mounting an fdd wouldn't be that hard
[06:10] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: links2 what is that for???
[06:10] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: guess i never saw that.  i upgraded to 1.5 before it came out then...
[06:10] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: a text based browser for most part
[06:10] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: give me the link let me see it
[06:10] <gnomefreak> i use ff when im to lazy to use links2 ;)
[06:10] <gill> Gnome says: Unable to mount the selected volume: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[06:11] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: you install it from repos
[06:11] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: but why not wget the page and vi it??? ;)
[06:11] <gnomefreak> than type links -g or just links in termnail
[06:12] <gnomefreak> paradizelost: too many steps in there lol
[06:12] <gnomefreak> run links -g www.whatever.com and poof its there
[06:12] <gill> ok so it mounts under the command: sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy but I'd rather my land lady didn't have to run commands to get her CV
[06:12] <gnomefreak> http://links.twibright.com/
[06:12] <gnomefreak> ^^^ links website
[06:12] <NoUse> gill http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106544 I'm not sure if this will fix your problem but looks close
[06:12] <paradizelost> gill: you should be able to add user to the line in fstab...
[06:13] <paradizelost> well, i gotta head to lunch.  we'll cya l8r
[06:13] <SkunkWorks> Could someone point me to info on installing a working mysql on ubuntu. (and has anyone had luck with it)  4 or 5
[06:14] <salmiak> ok burning my first dvd in ubuntu now, with Gnome Baker. wish me luck ;D
[06:14] <NoUse> !tell SkunkWorks about lamp
[06:14] <alvaro> !tell alvaro about lamp
[06:15] <Elektrochelovek> !tell Elektrochelovek  about lamp
[06:15] <vero> ola
[06:15] <vero> como te llamas
[06:15] <gill> remind me how you install a de file?
[06:15] <gill> deb*
[06:15] <Ng> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[06:15] <SkunkWorks> Lamp?
[06:16] <Ng> SkunkWorks: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[06:16] <gill> thanks ng
[06:16] <Ng> (lamp == linux apache mysql php/perl/python)
[06:16] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: from where u got all these commands.???
[06:17] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: what command?
[06:17] <vicky__> hi
[06:18] <gnomefreak> ;)
[06:18] <hawkeye> :)
[06:18] <vicky__> =)
[06:18] <SkunkWorks> Ng: thanks.  We used the package manager to install it.  But there are some issues.  There seems to be user right issues.
[06:18] <alvaro> Hello, I am in AMD64 and with Firefox from repository if a Middle-Click in a Tab it closes, but I have downloaded firefox from mozilla.org (to enable flash. a firefox 32bits version) and now that function doesn't work, why?
[06:18] <vero> ola hay algien espaol
[06:18] <vicky__> what's up?
[06:18] <vicky__> sip
[06:18] <gnomefreak> !es
[06:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:18] <vicky__> metete al canal 10
[06:18] <vero> hello
[06:18] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: UBUNTU commands???
[06:18] <SkunkWorks> Ng: looking for someone who has maybe written up a "how to" on ubuntu.
[06:19] <gnomefreak> !commands
[06:19] <Ng> SkunkWorks: that's unlikely to be anything to do with the install itself - perhaps a quick read of the mysql.com docs for user management?
[06:19] <ubotu> I guess commands is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[06:19] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: ^^^
[06:19] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: OK
[06:19] <SkunkWorks> Ng:  thanks again.  Ok - we are reading as much as we can :)  just going to have to do some more researching.
[06:20] <Ng> SkunkWorks: I quite like phpmyadmin as a mysql browsing/admin tool - its user management stuff is quite nice
[06:20] <Ng> but that obviously needs apache and php installed
[06:20] <SkunkWorks> Ng: we where trying to admin though mysqladmin
[06:21] <vicky__> what's up??
[06:22] <vicky__> are you in there???
[06:22] <alvaro> !fr
[06:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:23] <hanuma> can anybody explain what is meant by universe and multiverse in sources.list of apt
[06:23] <hanuma> ?
[06:23] <Ng> hanuma: they are extra repositories of software, that is unsupported by the core ubuntu team, but made available for convenience
[06:24] <gnomefreak> hanuma: they are repos with non-free applications and extra software
[06:24] <hanuma> thanks Ng
[06:24] <hanuma> thanks  gnomefreak
[06:24] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:26] <Kingdong> Hey ppls, i have a question. How do I get a program to start up when my desktop starts
[06:26] <Ng> Kingdong: System->Preferences->Sessions, then add it in the Startup Programs tab
[06:27] <Kingdong> K, thanx! :)
[06:27] <Ng> or you may be able to leave it running when you log out and tick the "Save current session" box
[06:27] <Ng> but that doesn't work with all applications
[06:27] <Kingdong> Will, try that tooo! :)
[06:27] <Steve^> When using a GLText screensaver, why does it make a gap in the text?
[06:28] <Steve^> for instance, put "one two three four five" in the text and it splits after three
[06:29] <ferronica1> Any person here using DEMONOID???
[06:29] <ferronica1> www.demonoid.com???
[06:31] <Reidy> Hey I have a realy retarded problem and I don't know whether or not it is to do with me bieng a complete noob or just something's messed up. I cannot access any other drive or partion other than the one I boot of i have mounted them tyed accesseing them from the console but I get access denied even as root any ideas any one?
[06:31] <Reidy> 
[06:31] <Reidy> Also in the /dev folder if I try access a hard drive for axample /dev/hdb1 I just get could not open the file /dev/hdb1
[06:32] <Kingdong> Oh, 1 more qustion. Is there a shortcut key to swictch between workspaces? If so what is it.
[06:32] <_doctormo> I would like to thank you all for your help today :-)
[06:33] <_doctormo> (I'm gill, well not _gill_ per say but the user formaly gill)
[06:33] <L33TrDaNu> i've got kde installed.... and  a tri-monitor setup. Using two nvidia cards
[06:33] <cow_2001> i want to --reinstall everything that has some role in running my DVD drive, is there a way to do that?
[06:33] <L33TrDaNu> All is working, except when I open Konqueror it freezes X
[06:33] <Kingdong> Oh, 1 more qustion. Is there a shortcut key to switch between workspaces? If so what is it?
[06:34] <cow_2001> i prelinked everything and now the DVD doesn't work well
[06:34] <_doctormo> cow_2001: what is the problem?
[06:34] <L33TrDaNu> anyone have any ideas?
[06:34] <cow_2001> _doctormo, i prelinked everything and now the DVD doesn't work well
[06:34] <_doctormo> cow_2001: prelinked?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Kingdong, i belive ya can mouse over the pager and scroll the wheel. :P or ya can look at the gnome key binding perferance program and see.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> !prelink
[06:34] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> I dont see what prelinking would affect the dvd drive  however. You mean dvd videos are not playing as well?
[06:35] <Steve^> can someone please try the GLText screensaver with "one two three four five" and see what happens?
[06:35] <Steve^> Or is there another screensaver I can put text on?
[06:36] <cow_2001> Dr_Willis, i don't see it, too, bit i want to make sure it isn't prelink
[06:37] <r0xoR> i'm having a problem with the XFCE package
[06:37] <luiz>  brasil, somebody ???
[06:37] <pozdiy> what is analog of netBeans under Ubuntu?
[06:37] <_doctormo> pozdiy: perl ;-)
[06:37] <luiz> I need de irc brazil of Ubuntu,somebody?
[06:37] <r0xoR> xfce-themes won't install for some reason and all i get saying that there's an unmet dependency and then it says "xfce4-themes:" in a blank white box below the message saying "unmet dependency"
[06:38] <bbrazil> !br
[06:38] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:38] <pozdiy> _doctormo, appreciate your humour (personally, I'd wish both JAVA and perl exticnt)
[06:38] <mourez27> somebody knows how to install easy ubuntu without bug,
[06:39] <r0xoR> when i select xfce4-panel and *then* try to select xfce4-themes it tells me "xfce4-themes: Depends: xfce4-panel but it is not going to be installed"
[06:39] <r0xoR> when xfce4-panel *is* obviously marked for installation
[06:40] <mourez27> thanks
[06:40] <r0xoR> mourez27, heheh, no... easyubuntu is just pretty buggy all round :P
[06:41] <Tobias382> Anyone know what package(s) need(s) to be installed for Audacious to have the AudioScrobbler Client feature enabled when compiling it from source?
[06:41] <r0xoR> Tobias382, did you read any of documentation that came *with* the source yet?
[06:43] <harisund> What are locales? What 'locales' need to be set on my machine? Can someone give me some good documentation to read about them?
[06:43] <sbengtson> r0xoR - Generally this is because you have a mismatch of versions with xfce4-themes and xfce4-panel. If you have used other repositories then that can cause the problems, I had this with EasyUbuntu a couple of times.
[06:43] <r0xoR> i see
[06:43] <r0xoR> yeah i do have a mismatch of my version of themes and panel
[06:44] <Tobias382> r0xor: The closest thing that ./configure --help mentions is an --enable-FEATURE flag. I've done a grep -lr "crob" * on the root folder and it pull up anything that looks relevant.
[06:44] <sbengtson> double check the version numbers of both packages, even a .1 will cause a problem. This means you have to uninstall all related packages :P, fix the repositories and reinstall.
[06:44] <r0xoR> Tobias382, there should be a list of those --enable features around somewhere though
[06:44] <r0xoR> Tobias382, they'll be *in* the ./configure file itself if nothing else
[06:44] <Zero> hola
[06:44] <r0xoR> !es
[06:44] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:45] <KenSentMe> hi
[06:45] <hanuma>  can anybody explain what are section names in sources.list of apt
[06:45] <hanuma> ?
[06:46] <NoUse> hanuma what are you trying to figure out?
[06:47] <hanuma> NoUse, just i am new to ubuntu and apt i am trying to understand sources.list and tring to learn how to add a new repo
[06:47] <NoUse> !tell hanuma about repos
[06:47] <cc> is Dapper ready for use?
[06:48] <Flannel> cc: depends on your definition of use.
[06:48] <NoUse> hanuma you don't really need to understand what each section means, universe and multiverse just have some extra software
[06:48] <cc> er, safe =D
[06:48] <MacSlow> cc, while it not officially marked "for production use" it works for me on a daily basis.
[06:49] <cc> i cannot wait to update my breezy to dapper ,
[06:49] <NoUse> cc its scheduled to be marked stable on June 1
[06:49] <Flannel> cc: you shouldn't lose data.  some things have quirks, and as such it shouldnt be used for anything mission critical,
[06:49] <Reidy> in the console i am root yet when I try to execute a script I get permision denied
[06:49] <mirak> is dapper in freeze of new package ?
[06:49] <Flannel> but... you shouldnt wake up one morning to find your HD corrupt or anything.
[06:49] <MacSlow> cc, I stress dapper quite some (at least OpenGL-related) and sofar it's quite ok
[06:49] <cc> haha
[06:49] <hanuma> Reidy, try changing the permissions of the file
[06:50] <NoUse> Reidy make sure the script is set to be executable, chmod u+x file.sh
[06:50] <Reidy> ok
[06:50] <Reidy> thnx
[06:50] <NoUse> mirak yes, only bug fixes now
[06:50] <cc> Thank you guys
[06:50] <mirak> NoUse: so no repositories for next version yet ?
[06:51] <mirak> NoUse: it would be a shame if Listen wasn't included in dapper
[06:51] <NoUse> mirak for the version after dapper?
[06:51] <mirak> for gnome
[06:51] <brandon_> NoUse? it's quite ok, is it?
[06:51] <mirak> NoUse: Edgy Eft ?
[06:51] <mirak> NoUse: no for dapper
[06:51] <cc> 6 months is quite long for me
[06:52] <mirak> NoUse: that's a very good player music
[06:52] <NoUse> mirak I'm not sure, seach http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:52] <Flannel> cc: only four.  6-10
[06:52] <cc> Flannel what do ya mean ?
[06:52] <mirak> Flannel: why was there a delay ?
[06:53] <Flannel> cc: E.E. is being released in october, so its only a four month wait from Dapper.
[06:53] <Flannel> mirak: to add support for eastern languages in Dapper
[06:53] <cc> o, gotcha
[06:53] <mirak> Flannel: URSS  ?
[06:53] <mirak> lol
[06:53] <mirak> USSR
[06:53] <cc> Flannel: what's E. E. =D
[06:53] <diablo_> is there still talk about ubuntu getting the application emulator that was in linspire?
[06:53] <diablo_> i forget what its called, i wanna say crossfire i think its wrong
[06:54] <RandolphCarter> diablo_: crossover office?
[06:54] <teletubbie> how can gparted resize my /home partition if /home is in use?
[06:54] <Flannel> cc: Edgy Eft, the dapper+1
[06:54] <NoUse> teletubbie no
[06:54] <sbengtson> teletubbie - You have to boot off the live cd to resize partitions that may be un use
[06:55] <Flannel> mirak: what?
[06:55] <diablo_> it was an application emulator like wine
[06:55] <cc> Flannel: o, thanks,
[06:55] <sbengtson> or you can log in as root and unmount /home then resize.
[06:55] <cc> the names are funny
[06:55] <sbengtson> Crossover is a commercial version of wine
[06:55] <mirak> what re eastearn languages ?
[06:55] <teletubbie> can I just change my user home dir and then login and use gparted to resize /home?
[06:55] <cc> are these animals comin from Africa?
[06:55] <Tobias382> r0xor: I'm having trouble figuring this out. It seems like all the AudioScrobbler feature requires is libmusicbrainz and libcurl, but I have both of those installed.
[06:56] <diablo_> thats what i thought, so whats the word on ubuntu getting it
[06:56] <diablo_> heard talk of it
[06:56] <Flannel> cc: no.  theyre just animals.
[06:56] <sbengtson> you can do that as well, you just need to be able to unmount your /home partition.
[06:56] <NoUse> teletubbie you need to unmount he home partition
[06:56] <teletubbie> NoUse, so I can do it without the livecd
[06:56] <cc> Flannel: o,,,They're creative
[06:56] <Flannel> mirak: asian languages, usually.
[06:56] <NoUse> teletubbie yeah but I think its easier with the livecd
[06:57] <teletubbie> nah, I know what I can do. I just wanna be sure
[06:57] <indulis84> hi all
[06:57] <sbengtson> Much easier with the live cd, then none of the partitions are mounted, some people have just a / and swap partition (ick) so you have to unmount everything to resize.
[06:58] <teletubbie> I have /home separated
[06:58] <mirak> why do we need to be root to share folders through samba ? That's bad
[06:58] <diablo_> is there a novell netware administrative tool for ubuntu?
[06:58] <diablo_> got novel client, thats not that usefull
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> the root user has to enable the use of samba for the whole system to begin with
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> which is to say - samba is basicially disabled by default.. Thats good. (or bad, depending on the arguments)
[07:00] <Hatred> ahoy
[07:00] <mneptok> arr.
[07:00] <Hatred> mate of mine is trying to find out what kernal she's running atm, and google is giving us hell for some reason
[07:00] <mneptok> uname -a
[07:00] <Hatred> can someone leand us a hand?
[07:00] <Hatred> a beautiful
[07:01] <Hatred> thankyou mneptok
[07:01] <imonkey> hello in kde it is possible to lets your windows remember there possition for the next time you start them up is this also possible whit gnome?
[07:01] <arrick> hello all
[07:01] <[blah] > is there any way to bench mark my 3D graphics card in Ubuntu?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> imonkey,  in gnome it can do it if you use their 'spatial'  file nagivational mode.. wich MOST people seem to hate.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> imonkey,  not sure about in kde.
[07:02] <NoUse> imonkey if you click on the icon at the top-left it has options that allow you to do that
[07:03] <arrick> Dr_Willis, where is a good forum on basic setup of Windows Server 2003 Enterprise?
[07:03] <imonkey> NoUse: in the top left of the window you mean?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  no clue there..  thats beyond my experience. :P
[07:03] <arrick> ok
[07:03] <halcyon187> When I do a ps -A, apache2 shows up 5 times.  Is that normal?
[07:03] <arrick> anyone, where is a good forum on basic setup of Windows Server 2003 Enterprise?
[07:03] <mneptok> halcyon187: yes
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> halcyon187,  yes
[07:04] <mneptok> halcyon187: ps shows threads. apache is highly threaded.
[07:04] <mneptok> arrick: you might try a channel dedicated to Windows support.
[07:04] <halcyon187> thanks
[07:04] <topyli> arrick: surely if you bought w2k3 enterprise, you can find support for it
[07:05] <plantperson> I have a new HP printer,  which is not listed in the gnome printer list.  What would be the best way to set it up?
[07:05] <arrick> mneptok, I ask in here cause my friends are here
[07:05] <teletubbie> I can't umount /home it says it is busy but lsof is not showing anything that's using /home
[07:05] <arrick> topyli, you gotta pay for it
[07:05] <Industrial> Can anyone help me with installing django? (djangoproject.com)
[07:05] <teletubbie> anything that may be using it?
[07:05] <mneptok> teletubbie: just about everything if you're logged in.
[07:06] <teletubbie> my home dir is /tele
[07:06] <teletubbie> not /home/tele
[07:06] <mneptok> Nautilus, Metacity, Terminal, *any* apps your userid is running
[07:07] <sbengtson> teletubbie- what does your mount command say?
[07:07] <teletubbie> umount: /home: device is busy
[07:07] <teletubbie> /dev/sda2 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[07:08] <arrick> hey guys, I have a usb external hard drive that I used with ubuntu, and now it has a ext3 format, how do I access that disc so I can reformat it as NTFS?
[07:08] <sbengtson> teletubbie - something still has your /home locked, you may have to remove it from the fstab file and reboot.
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  you proberly need to just fdisk it and delete the ext3 partitions.. then fdisk/format it from a windows box.
[07:08] <Industrial> Can anyone help me with installing django? (djangoproject.com)
[07:08] <Industrial> error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
[07:08] <Industrial> :\
[07:09] <mneptok> Industrial: so install Python
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  not sure you can create a ntfs parttion/formated from within linux
[07:09] <shachaf> Is there a package for Ubuntu that includes PyXML? I can't find one.
[07:09] <arrick> where can I get fdiks from
[07:09] <Industrial> mneptok: so its installed
[07:09] <mneptok> Industrial: apparently not. :)
[07:09] <mneptok> Industrial: or an older version is installed.
[07:10] <MenZ> What font is used for the Ubuntu logo?
[07:10] <lsuactiafner> whats the umask if i want anyone to be able to access the disk?, its a squid proxy disk,so user nobody should be able to modify and execute it
[07:10] <bigmoe> anyone here uses tor
[07:10] <bigmoe> or privoxy
[07:10] <mneptok> lsuactiafner: 777
[07:11] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[07:11] <teletubbie> gparted still scanning for devices
[07:11] <mustard5> bigmoe, I have in the past, but not currently
[07:12] <bigmoe> anyone here knows how to change the external ip
[07:12] <bigmoe> mustard5: do u know how to change the external ip
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> noatime,defaults,umask=000 is that correct?
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> i get an error
[07:12] <teletubbie> resizing
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> mount: wrong fs type ect
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> but it works when i dont specify umash
[07:12] <mustard5> bigmoe, I'm not sure what you mean, so probably not
[07:13] <bigmoe> mustard5: like masqing ur internet ip address
[07:13] <lsuactiafner>  /dev/hdd1       /squid          ext3        noatime,defaults,umask=000         0   0
[07:13] <mustard5> bigmoe, isn't that what tor is about?  going through proxies?
[07:14] <teletubbie> failled
[07:14] <lsuactiafner> #tor
[07:14] <lsuactiafner> tor rocks
[07:14] <Rug> Howdy all
[07:15] <sbengtson> teletubbie - what did gparted fail with (message)?
[07:15] <bigmoe> yea and privoxy also you have to combine them but each time i do /etc/init.d/privoxy start it fails
[07:15] <humbolt> I want to use fping without seeing all the "ICMP Time Exceeded from 172.20.138.1 for ICMP Echo sent to 172.20.138.11" messages. "-q" does not seem to do the trick!
[07:15] <teletubbie> it says action applied to a busy device
[07:15] <mustard5> bigmoe, with what error message?
[07:15] <teletubbie> but /home was not mounted
[07:15] <teletubbie> I only have the install disc of ubuntu
[07:15] <imonkey> sorry i diddnt get a clear awnser the previous so ill ask it again in the hope someone can help me out:
[07:15] <teletubbie> but it doesn't have gparted on it, right?
[07:15] <imonkey> hello in kde it is possible to lets your windows remember there possition for the next time you start them up is this also possible whit gnome?
[07:15] <bigmoe> no error mes just fails
[07:15] <sbengtson> teletubbie - right click on the /home partition and see if it has a unmount.
[07:16] <teletubbie> nope, no umount option
[07:16] <sbengtson> no the install doesn't have a gparted on it sorry.
[07:16] <Rug> imonkey: yes it is possible.  I can't tell you how though
[07:16] <teletubbie> sbengtson, how can I resize using the livecd then?
[07:16] <teletubbie> the install disc I mean
[07:16] <Rug> imonkey: have you tried holding down the ctrl key when resizing?
[07:17] <sethk> teletubbie, you can't.  resizing is in general quite dangerous and a bad idea unless you can tolerate losing all the data
[07:17] <sbengtson> if you boot off the live cd you will get a desktop with the gparted application. the install cd you don't really have the ability to resize.
[07:17] <[blah] > is there any way to bench mark my 3D graphics card in Ubuntu?
[07:17] <sbengtson> can you back up your /home partition then delete it?
[07:17] <sethk> teletubbie, so if you resize, make sure everything important is backed up
[07:17] <imonkey> Rug: ill try it hold on :)
[07:17] <teletubbie> I don't wanna waste a cd on the live cd
[07:17] <Rug> teletubbie: use a CD-rw
[07:17] <sethk> this is why you should always configure one large partition
[07:18] <imonkey> Rug: is doesnt work :/
[07:18] <rscheideman> how do i get to grub?
[07:18] <teletubbie> I don't have cd-r. I only have dvd's
[07:18] <Rug> imonkey: sorry
[07:18] <sethk> rscheideman, if you are already installed, run the grub utility
[07:18] <imonkey> Rug: np :) thanks for trying anyway
[07:18] <Rug> imonkey: I don't use kde or gnome, so I don't remember how/where you 'fix' it
[07:18] <MenZ> What font is used for the Ubuntu logo?
[07:18] <cc> how come gentoo channel has more user# than ubuntu
[07:19] <cc> so does debian
[07:19] <MenZ> cc: probably because more people use Debian or Gentoo.
[07:19] <Rug> cc: gentto folks are bored waiting for stuff to compile
[07:19] <MenZ> Rug: heh
[07:19] <cc> hehe
[07:19] <sbengtson> Rug : nice :) personally I don't wait long to compile on gentoo (thanks to distcc :) )
[07:19] <imonkey> Rug: what WM do you use instead if i may ask?
[07:20] <Rug> sbengtson: yeah, just a joke.  I couldn't resist
[07:20] <teletubbie> I can have max 4 primary partitions. right?
[07:20] <Rug> imonkey: fluxbox
[07:20] <Rug> teletubbie: yes
[07:20] <NoUse> imonkey yes the top-left of the window
[07:21] <imonkey> NoUse: i dont understand what you mean whit that.. do you mean the logo of the window?
[07:21] <NoUse> imonkey yes
[07:21] <imonkey> NoUse: could you tell me how this option is called? i cant find it..
[07:22] <imonkey> Rug: the best WM ever but i quess gnome is alot better if you kinda new to ubuntu ;x i dont know all the app names yet
[07:22] <NoUse> imonkey Advanced -> Special Window Settings
[07:22] <imonkey> NoUse: are you in KDE or gnome?
[07:22] <NoUse> imonkey kde, I thought thats what you were asking about
[07:23] <imonkey> NoUse: hehe nope sorry im using gnome :)
[07:23] <ncel> ncel181
[07:23] <NoUse> imonkey ah sorry
[07:23] <teletubbie> does resizing a dsic take alot of time?
[07:23] <imonkey> NoUse: np :)
[07:24] <Howdy125> Anyone know how to make the fonts smaller in dvdrip ?
[07:24] <Rug> teletubbie: shouldn't take long
[07:24] <Rug> Anybody using wdm?
[07:26] <sbengtson> teletubbie - it can depending on the size and if anything goes wrong :)
[07:26] <sbengtson> teletubbie - If you can backup the /home partition then remove it and recreate it to the size you want that may be the fastest.
[07:26] <sbengtson> teletubbie - What fs type is your /home partition?
[07:27] <teletubbie> mhh, yea. but gparted is still working on it
[07:27] <teletubbie> :(
[07:28] <glimp> hello, i tried to play FLV files with totem movie player the video is good but there is no sound
[07:28] <billdoe> hey, i am working on a knoppix-ubuntu hybrid... basically a ubuntu base system w/ the knoppix scripts
[07:28] <OneTruth> what is the command to download a file?
[07:29] <OneTruth> i've seen a command called curl used before but i dont think it is valid on ubuntu
[07:29] <mneptok> you can install curl
[07:29] <RandolphCarter> OneTruth: you just need to install it, I think 'wget' may be on by default though
[07:29] <mneptok> or you can use wget
[07:29] <OneTruth> is there a difference?
[07:29] <OneTruth> what makes curl better?
[07:29] <mneptok> bandwidth throttling
[07:30] <RandolphCarter> true, but that shouldn't be the job of a downloader :) wget's great for getting multiple files recursively
[07:30] <glimp> hi; what player should i use to play FLV files, can't seem to find FLV player for linux
[07:30] <elfoe> hello !
[07:30] <mneptok> curl --limit-rate 20K -O http://www.host.net/some/giant/honkin.mpg
[07:30] <brandon_> does anybody use sql-ledger?
[07:31] <jmp_me> How do i change display manager?
[07:31] <OneTruth> mneptok:  interesting
[07:33] <winona82> helo
[07:33] <winona82> anyone here has a good idea (and easy) to share files throught internet? like windows capacities?
[07:33] <glimp> hi; what player should i use to play FLV files, can't seem to find FLV player for linux
[07:34] <winona82> glimp, vlc will do that
[07:34] <glimp> vlc can't play it i tried it
[07:34] <winona82> y play them with vlc...
[07:34] <sbengtson> winona82 - you can do ftp, smb or scp
[07:34] <winona82> those are video from flash, right?
[07:35] <glimp> yeah
[07:35] <winona82> sbengtson, actually i do it in my lan with SMB
[07:35] <glimp> totem can play it but there is no sound
[07:35] <HedgeMage> does anyone have a favorite jabber client they would like to recommend?  I'm becoming mildly annoyed by gaim.
[07:35] <winona82> is there a way to make it work throught internet?
[07:35] <NoUse> glimp if its just sound thats missing check the settings for what output method is being used, try to set it to esd or alsa
[07:35] <glimp> ah okey thanks i'll try it
[07:35] <winona82> sbengtson, what port does it use?
[07:35] <mneptok> winona82: the SMB ports are usually closed on corporate LANs to prevent data theft
[07:36] <teletubbie> thank god my /home is still ok
[07:36] <sbengtson> winona82 - you can open somthing up to the internet like nfs or ftp I really do not recomend using smb on the internet.
[07:36] <winona82> um
[07:36] <sbengtson> teletubbie - good job!
[07:36] <mneptok> winona82: why not just use Apache or DAV?
[07:36] <teletubbie> I'm gonna do some backup and recreate partitions
[07:36] <winona82> mneptok, i m working on doing it with apache
[07:36] <sbengtson> winona82 - ftp is the best (fastest, and can be secured) DAV is not very secure either.
[07:37] <winona82> actually i already run the server, but not have gone very far away
[07:37] <mneptok> winona82: that only works one way, though. there is no upload.
[07:37] <winona82> so, must i try ftp then?
[07:37] <sbengtson> winona82 - Yeah you can setup a secure ftp server then you have reliable/fast upload and download.
[07:37] <mneptok> winona82: just be careful. use vsftpd and RTFM.
[07:37] <winona82> vsftpd will do the trick?
[07:37] <sbengtson> I second the vsftpd
[07:38] <sbengtson> very easy to setup and use.
[07:38] <winona82> ok
[07:38] <winona82> cool
[07:38] <mneptok> *someone* needs to make a GUI Wired client for GNOME
[07:38] <mneptok> maybe i'll prod co-workers after Dapper ships.
[07:38] <made> I can't figure out how to install alien
[07:38] <made> I have all the files I need I just can't figure out how to install it
[07:39] <xpc> hi
[07:39] <sbengtson> I'd love to make some more gui's but I am heavy into a project right now and have no extra time for that.
[07:39] <made> I'm a noob to ubuntu btw
[07:39] <mneptok> (although then everyone will be in Eft mode and freaking out)
[07:39] <winona82> thx guys
[07:39] <winona82> i'm gonna give a try to vsftpd
[07:39] <sbengtson> winona82 - np
[07:39] <Shira> hello, I am trying to download the iso using bittorrent from http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent, I am missing one segment for the last few hours can anybody reseed?
[07:39] <mneptok> Shira: there should be tons of seeds
[07:40] <made> can somebody help me figure out alien?
[07:40] <Shira> there are, but the it still doesn't download that one segment
[07:40] <Shira> its of 99.9% for a few hours now
[07:41] <sbengtson> made - what's wrong with it? are you using .debs?
[07:41] <mneptok> made: alien is in the *verse repos. just use apt-get/Synaptic
[07:41] <mwe> made: alien foobar.rpm will generate a .deb. I recommend reading man alien from a terminal
[07:41] <made> I need to convert a .rpm into .deb
[07:41] <teletubbie> creating partitions :)
[07:41] <NoUse> Shira I'll try seeding it
[07:41] <Juhaz> made, usually bad idea
[07:42] <Shira> NoUse: thanks!
[07:42] <mustard5> made, install the alien package and see how you go
[07:42] <made> I just like to use limewire pro and the only version I can find downloadable for linux is wrapped up in an rpm file
[07:43] <NoUse> Shira let me know if you get that last chunk
[07:43] <mustard5> made, there is another version somewhere I believe
[07:43] <NoUse> !limewire
[07:43] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[07:43] <made> ok
[07:43] <mneptok> made: use Frostwire and install from the .tgz
[07:43] <teletubbie> after formating the new partition, it has 700mb used
[07:43] <teletubbie> but I haven't put anything on it yet
[07:43] <teletubbie> why?
[07:43] <mustard5> mneptok, there is a good .deb file for frostwire isn't there?
[07:44] <sbengtson> teletubbie - Depending on the file system there is overhead.
[07:44] <teletubbie> ext3
[07:44] <mneptok> mustard5: no idea. i always install manually.
[07:44] <mustard5> mneptok, k
[07:44] <NoUse> teletubbie how big is the partition?
[07:44] <sbengtson> teletubbie - yeah that will be right
[07:44] <sbengtson> teletubbie - not anywhere near ntfs though :)
[07:44] <mustard5> made, frostwire is a good free alternative to limewire
[07:45] <mneptok> Not *THAT* File System!
[07:46] <sbengtson> teletubbie - on my 200g drive with reiserfs it has 33M overhead (this could be journaling with ext3)
[07:46] <Shira> NoUse: Still no luck, I am starting to think it is not because of seeding but some other problem. Any thoughts? I am using the latest azureus
[07:46] <mneptok> teletubbie: not to mention reserved blocks, which Ubuntu defaults to 5%.
[07:46] <andersee> anybody else notice X crashing on dpms with the new xorg packages for breezy?
[07:46] <NoUse> Shira have you forwarded the proper ports?
[07:46] <mneptok> Shira: 6881
[07:47] <teletubbie> it is around 40gb
[07:47] <Shira> NoUse: I was able to tell azureus that to recheck the missing piece and its fine now 100%. Thanks a lot
[07:47] <NoUse> teletubbie by default, around 10% is reserved for root
[07:47] <Shira> mneptok: thanks as well
[07:47] <sbengtson> teletubbie - small price to pay for the extra security.
[07:48] <OneTruth> How do you search apt-get to check the verison of an app?
[07:48] <mustard5> OneTruth, apt-cache show appname ?
[07:48] <OneTruth> mustard5:  perfect
[07:49] <cwcoxjr> @andersee, no, but after the updates I found that firefox now refuses to make HTTP requests.
[07:49] <sethk> cwcoxjr, hmm, that makes firefox not quite as useful as before.  :)
[07:50] <OneTruth> another question, I am installing a Wiki called twiki, what is the best practice on where to unpack the tar?
[07:50] <cwcoxjr> chatzilla still works, so all is not lost
[07:50] <sethk> OneTruth, I use /usr/build, but that's arbitrary.  The ultimate install directory has nothing to do with where you choose to unpack it
[07:50] <sbengtson> OneTruth - anywhere you can access it. Some people use the /usr/src directory for building
[07:50] <Blissex> OneTruth: '/usr/local' usually, but TWiki must be unpacked to the directory where you got the site.
[07:51] <sethk>   /usr/local is typicall for installation, _not_ for unpacking tar
[07:51] <OneTruth> because twiki doesnt have an installation, you just unpack it to where it will be used
[07:51] <sethk> OneTruth, in that case, I take back what I said  :)
[07:51] <OneTruth> ;)
[07:51] <OneTruth> ok so if i am just unpacking it for the web where should i put it?
[07:52] <sethk> unix people tend to use /opt, although /usr/local is common there also
[07:52] <sbengtson> OneTruth - if it is a web app (php) then under /usr/local is probably best then configure your web server
[07:54] <sbengtson> Does anyone know how to setup a laptop with autodetecting dual monitors on an ATI card?
[07:54] <cc> hey guys, can you join #python channel?
[07:54] <cc> I cound't
[07:55] <teletubbie> #python :You need to be identified to join that channel
[07:55] <sethk> cc, I can.  Do you have identd running?
[07:55] <cc> sethk: no identd
[07:55] <roryy> you need to register
[07:55] <teletubbie> you need to identify using nickserv first
[07:55] <winona82> sbengtson, does it use port 20 instead of 21?
[07:56] <sethk> cc, try what teletubbie & roryy said, if you aren't identified.
[07:56] <nocando> I can't change the screen resolution on the computer. I have followed the instructions and modified xorg.conf but this it doesn't change ( http://pastebin.com/709798 ).  surely there must be a better way?
[07:56] <winona82> vsftp
[07:56] <cc> thanks guys
[07:56] <sethk> nocando, if you have multiple resolutions defined, did you try using control-alt-+ and control-alt--?
[07:56] <sbengtson> winona82 - ftp has a connection port of 21 then data ports unless you use passive mode.
[07:56] <mneptok> winona82: it uses whatever port you specify in the config
[07:56] <sethk> nocando, (the second one is control alt minus)
[07:56] <winona82> sbengtson, so what ports shoul i open in my router? 20 and 21?
[07:57] <nocando> sethk: that didn't seem to do anything
[07:57] <winona82> mneptok, on config file?
[07:57] <sbengtson> winona82 - Yes 20 and 21, 20
[07:58] <sethk> nocando, what nocando check your X log file, see if it gives you errors about some of those resolutions
[07:58] <winona82> sbengtson, cool, thx
[07:58] <winona82> both TCP, right?
[07:58] <sethk> nocando, most likely it thinks that either your video card or your monitor can't support them
[07:58] <CC> my nickname is owned by someone else, so do I need to change my nickname before joining #python ?
[07:58] <sbengtson> winona82 - your clients should use passive mode and yes both TCP
[07:58] <nocando> I don't think there are any errors in the screen resolutions - I have put the config in a pastebin - http://pastebin.com/709798
[07:59] <sethk> CC, yes
[07:59] <nocando> would be able to have a quick look please:)
[07:59] <CC> sethk: thanks
[07:59] <sethk> nocando, I already looked at the config.  unfortunately, it doesn't tell me what's wrong.  paste the X log file
[08:00] <winona82> windowsd ftp client does not support passive mdoe, no?
[08:00] <paradizelost> howdy all
[08:01] <gili> need some help with boot problem
[08:01] <paradizelost> gili  what's the issue?
[08:01] <gili> i updated a bunch of stuff and now i get a kernel panic at boot
[08:01] <gili> cannot boot
[08:02] <paradizelost> k. what is the error?   cannot mount /
[08:02] <paradizelost> ?
[08:02] <paradizelost> if you press escape and pick a different kernel out of the list, does it work?
[08:02] <gili> no
[08:02] <gili> stuck
[08:02] <nocando> sethk: thanks - I have put the logs here: http://pastebin.com/709810  I have taken only the top entries - let me know if you need more
[08:03] <paradizelost> what's the error gili?
[08:03] <paradizelost> need more info than 'kernel panic'
[08:03] <paradizelost> cuz that can be a lot of things
[08:03] <gili> says Panic: Circular Dependncy...exiting
[08:03] <sethk> nocando, ok, I'm on a call, so it will be a few minutes
[08:03] <squidgy> Hi.  I'm having some trouble compiling an application because certain header files are missing.  Is there a way to find which dev package(s) in the repository contain a given file?
[08:03] <paradizelost> gili: you on breezy or dapper?
[08:03] <nocando> sethk - no worries
[08:03] <gili> Kernel Panci-Not syncing kill init
[08:03] <gili> then it dies
[08:03] <gili> dapper
[08:03] <ruzgar> how can i make a deb file froam a tar.gz file
[08:04] <ruzgar> ?
[08:04] <trappist> squidgy: sudo apt-get install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search filename
[08:04] <sbengtson> winona82 - windows clients should
[08:04] <roryy> squidgy: http://packages.ubuntu.com lets you search inside packages
[08:04] <paradizelost> gili, try in #ubuntu+1
[08:04] <squidgy> trappist:  excellent.  Many thanks.
[08:04] <paradizelost> that's the dapper room
[08:04] <trappist> ruzgar: it's a complicated process - search for 'packaging' on the wiki
[08:05] <gili> thanks
[08:07] <nocando> sethk - in case you are reading this I have noticed something on interest something further down in the logs and have added it to the pastebin entry http://pastebin.com/709825
[08:07] <raphaa> hello
[08:07] <raphaa> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[08:07] <raphaa> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[08:07] <raphaa> -> where can i enter my favourite nameserver???
[08:08] <squidgy> roryy: Thanks to you too.
[08:08] <roryy> np
[08:09] <userone> hello all...can anyone recommend a good way of sending a fax using ubuntu. 'Good@ meaning qucik and easy! :-)
[08:10] <squidgy> trappist:  Worked beautifully.  I should've asked about this ages ago.  Thanks again.
[08:10] <trappist> squidgy: best kept secret in the debian world
[08:11] <userone> what is the best kept secret in the debian world? I missed it! lol
[08:11] <squidgy> userone: apt-file.  It lets you find which package in the repositories contains a given file.
[08:13] <userone> squidgy: ok...I can see how that is a good secret to know! :-)
[08:13] <trappist> userone: sshh!  don't tell anyone else.
[08:13] <trappist> let them pull their hair out in frustration
[08:13] <squidgy> userone:  trappist just told me about it.  His instructions for installation and use: "sudo apt-get install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search filename"
[08:14] <sethk> nocando, paste the entire file, if that's not too difficult.  If that's a problem, then the end of the file is much more likely to be useful than the beginning
[08:15] <captine> anyone know where i can get a complete list of apps installed with ubuntu?
[08:15] <userone> squidgy: thanks..I have just noted that down in my ubuntu cookbook! Will definately set that up later :-)
[08:16] <holysmoke> can sombody please help a poor ubuntu newbie (me) install a second harddrive (that is at hdb1) , its just for storage. I cant seem to edit fstab properly...
[08:16] <fj2> help! i need a program which is able to switch through the channels of my bt878 tv tuner card....
[08:16] <paradizelost> holysmoke: have you formatted it already?
[08:16] <userone> trappist: squidgy: Its so useful having linux masters around! ;-)
[08:16] <holysmoke> yes  <paradizelost>
[08:16] <dumezil_> what handles the automounting of usb flash drives in ubuntu?  when i plug one in, it shows up on the desktop, but i don't have read or write access...  mount shows "/dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=0,gid=0,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)"
[08:17] <paradizelost> holysmoke: what filesystem?
[08:17] <holysmoke> I used mkdir to   make a directory called       /media/storage
[08:17] <holysmoke> its ext3
[08:17] <paradizelost> k.
[08:17] <paradizelost> add this line
[08:18] <nocando> sethk: okay I have pasted the entire file http://pastebin.com/709865 :)
[08:18] <squidgy> userone:  I'm no linux master.  I'm a complete n00b.  Getting there, though.  You have any other gems in that cookbook?
[08:18] <holysmoke> thanks
[08:18] <zelevw> fj2: tvtime works well
[08:18] <paradizelost>  /dev/hdb1       /media/storage               ext3 defaults          0       1
[08:18] <paradizelost> then mount -a
[08:18] <arrick> holysmoke, /ETC/MTAB HANDLES IT
[08:19] <dumezil_> where can i define mount options for the automounting of usb flash drives?
[08:19] <trappist> arrick: not really
[08:19] <arrick> sorry about the caps
[08:19] <holysmoke> doing it brb
[08:19] <captine> paradizelost: i've never fully understood the 0 1 at the end of the line in fstab?  u have a quick definition of what it means?
[08:19] <fj2> zelevw: no it doesnt... i aint got a framebuffer..... and i dont need a tv-wathing program... just a frontend for switching the channels... watching works well with vlc...
[08:19] <sethk> nocando, it is complaining about the hsync and vrefresh ranges in the config file
[08:19] <arrick> captine, its back wards copatibility stuff
[08:20] <lsuactiafner> hey captine
[08:20] <sethk> nocando, then it is trying to use 60Hz vertical for everything, which is not what you want
[08:20] <lsuactiafner> draconis here..
[08:20] <userone> squidgy: I am a noob too, but trying! The cookbook is getting fatter by the day! :-) It depends what you consider a gem!?
[08:20] <captine> hey lsuactiafner
[08:20] <sethk> nocando, I think it doesn't know what kind of monitor is attached, and is assuming that the attached one can't do anything
[08:20] <nocando> sethk - right - that makes sence
[08:20] <arrick> userone, where is this cookbook?
[08:21] <paradizelost> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[08:21] <lsuactiafner> aint the 0 and the 1 if a disk should be fscked if not cleanly mounted, especially with ext2?
[08:21] <holysmoke> it keeps saying   mount: only root can mount /dev/hdb1 on /media/storage
[08:21] <arrick> yeah, if you have ext2. but with ext3 its outdated
[08:21] <sethk> nocando, the card config is fine, it finds 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.  it finds 1280x1024 but says your virtual max resolution is smaller than 1280x1024 so it ignores it
[08:21] <paradizelost> you need to sudo mount -a
[08:21] <paradizelost> holysmoke: when ever your doing system things, use sudo before the command
[08:21] <arrick> put sudo before your command to mount it
[08:22] <userone> arrick: Its just a book of notes on Linux/Ubuntu I put together to help me set up my Linux system. Its nothing official! :-)
[08:22] <dumezil_> where can i define mount options for the automounting of usb flash drives?
[08:22] <NoUse> its also for vfat, I set that number wront once nad it would scan my vfat drive at boot each time
[08:22] <arrick> userone, publish it to help others out
[08:22] <squidgy> userone: apt-file definitely counts as a gem in my book.  Wickedly powerful and non-obvious.
[08:22] <goo> Hi. I am on breezy and wants to upgrade to Dapper. Are there any GUI programs that allows for one-click upgrade?
[08:22] <nocando> sethk : I'll just have a quick look through the config now
[08:22] <arrick> put it into html and post it to the web
[08:22] <NoUse> goo 'sudo update-manager -d'
[08:22] <arrick> hahahahahahaha
[08:22] <holysmoke> thanks alot im learning
[08:23] <holysmoke> does that mount -a stay in effect on my next login
[08:23] <paradizelost> the mount -a just tells it to mount everything in /etc/fstab
[08:23] <mr_hus> hey, just wonding, it seems like everyday there are like 90 new updates to install on my ubuntu system. I always heard that it's not so good to update your system when everything works... Is there an easy way to only be notified about really really important updates so that I just update my whole machine once in a while?
[08:23] <goo> NoUse: ahhh, the -d switch. Great! Thanks!
[08:23] <paradizelost> rather than manually mounting each  line if you unmounted them for some reason
[08:23] <trappist> mr_hus: are you running dapper?
[08:23] <mr_hus> trappist: yeah
[08:23] <arrick> I ve learned a couple of times not, and yesterdya went back to Win 2003 Server Enterprize so my printer is fully supported
[08:23] <mr_hus> flight 6 i think
[08:23] <userone> arrick: yes, I will. I have received a lot of help from others and I should pay back! I should put the cookbook into some sort of order first!
[08:24] <paradizelost> holysmoke: on boot, it will automount unless you add ,noauto after defaults
[08:24] <NoUse> mr_hus thats why, dapper is still under development
[08:24] <trappist> mr_hus: it's because dapper is still in development.  update regularly.  the volume of updates will decrease significantly after release.
[08:24] <arrick> userone, if you need help, i can help out, or if you need a webhost, i can help out for that as well
[08:25] <nocando> sethk: I see what you mean. Should I change the monitor setting?
[08:25] <arrick> right at the moment though, Im configging the new server, wo it wil be better in a couple of days after I transfer everything
[08:25] <userone> arrick: thanks, I will let you know! :-)
[08:25] <nocando> sethk - perhaps: HorizSync       28-51    VertRefresh     43-70
[08:25] <arrick> ok
[08:25] <sethk> nocando, I think so.  If it doesn't have info for your monitor, use one of the "generic" monitor configurations where you can tell it which resolutions are supported
[08:26] <nocando> okay
[08:26] <sethk> nocando, I wouldn't try to edit the syncs directly.  use dpkg-reconfigure and let it convert the resolutions into the sync ranges
[08:26] <goo> NoUse: Well, it came to "downloading and installing", and then crashed. I'll just do it the oldfashioned way.
[08:26] <dumezil_> when you plug in a usb flash drive, what actually executes the mount command?  is it hotplug?  or something else?
[08:27] <thug> how do i set write permission to a dir ?
[08:27] <dumezil_> to make it read only?
[08:27] <trappist> thug: chmod +w dir
[08:27] <trappist> thug: chmod -R +w dir to make it recursive
[08:27] <Rug> Howdy all
[08:27] <Rug> I am back once again...
[08:28] <thug> trappist thanks
[08:28] <thug> trappist one last thing please ... how do i run pl script ? its a installer
[08:28] <Rug> I have just done a fresh install.  and now I can't access tty1-9 anymore.   My ctrl+alt+Fx keys don't work
[08:28] <ompaul> thug you may not need to do that, what program is it for?
[08:28] <trappist> thug: perl filename.pl
[08:29] <thug> ompaul vmware
[08:29] <thug> ompaul looks like the installer it in installer dir . :) its a sh script
[08:29] <ompaul> thug, k
[08:32] <dumezil_> can anyone help me with a usb flash drive problem?
[08:32] <paradizelost> dumezil_: by now, i don't know if anyone is on who can help atm.  what version u using?
[08:33] <NoUse> !justask
[08:33] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[08:33] <paradizelost> NoUse: he's been asking, but no one answered, and i wouldn't be of any use because i'm not sure myself..
[08:33] <dumezil_> nouse  ive been asking and no one has answered...
[08:33] <sethk> Rug, those are pts, virtual screens.  ttys are serial ports
[08:34] <NoUse> ok
[08:34] <dumezil_> paradizelost, im using ubuntu 5.10
[08:34] <ompaul> I have an opinion but am unsure of it, so I would be guessing (albeit partially educated)
[08:34] <sethk> dumezil, you have to ask a specific question
[08:34] <Rug> sethk: ok, sorry.
[08:34] <HiddenWolf> Does anyone know if I can set up gossip to talk to the msn gateway of my jabber server?
[08:34] <s|k> how do I do recursive grep?
[08:34] <sethk> Rug, do you still have your normal X screens (assuming you use X)?
[08:34] <sethk> s|k, grep -r
[08:34] <s|k> thanks :)
[08:34] <Rug> sethk: X is the only thing working right now.
[08:35] <paradizelost> dumezil_: just checking
[08:35] <thug> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running
[08:35] <thug> kernel?
[08:35] <sethk> Rug, I wonder if you really lost the screens, or what is really happening is that it isn't recognizing the keyboard properly
[08:35] <Rug> 2.6.12-10-k7
[08:35] <thug> usr/src/linux/include ?
[08:35] <crazy_penguin> how can i see the filelist from an installed package?
[08:35] <trappist> thug: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:35] <paradizelost> thug: have you installed them? they aren't installed by default
[08:36] <Rug> sethk: could be
[08:36] <sethk> thug, usually /usr/src/linux-version   as in /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.6/include.  but ubuntu uses a different name and you may need to create a link
[08:36] <ompaul> thug,  cd /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` will do it
[08:36] <trappist> once they're installed they should be in /lib/modules
[08:37] <dumezil_> sethk: when i plug in my usb flash drive, dmesg shows it being recognized by the kernel and loading the correct modules and i end up with a useable sda1, but i thought it should automount and show up on my desktop, but it doesn't
[08:37] <dumezil_> why not?
[08:37] <thug> trappist well i just need to tell vmware where they are
[08:37] <sethk> trappist, modules are in /lib/modules, not headers, IIRC
[08:37] <sethk> dumezil, most likely it isn't formatted
[08:37] <trappist> thug: vmware-config.pl should find them automatically once they're installed
[08:37] <dumezil_> i can manually mount it and it works
[08:37] <trappist> sethk: they're symlinks - the one vmware-config.pl wants is in /lib/modules.
[08:37] <sethk> dumezil, as what kind of file system?
[08:37] <thug> trappist i just run apt now ...
[08:37] <nocando> okay - still can't get my screen to increase. Can anyone tell me how to tell the computer what type of screen I am using?
[08:37] <dumezil_> vfat
[08:38] <sethk> trappist, for headers?  I've never seen that, but then I don't use vmware
[08:38] <yonatan> hi there, just a quick question - I've just plugged a microtek scanner, and lsusb sees it fine... now what?
[08:39] <ompaul> thug, did you check this out:  cd /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` :?
[08:39] <trappist> yonatan: sudo sane-find-scanners?
[08:39] <Rug> yonatan: you need to use a scanning program to use that scanner.  try something like xsane
[08:39] <sethk> dumezil, not sure, then.  Mine occasionally fail to automount, but usually they do manage to
[08:39] <trappist> yonatan: err, sane-find-scanner
[08:40] <dumezil_> sethk, any idea what process handles the automounting?  is it within gnome or outside?  like hotplug or something
[08:40] <nocando> sethk: I restarted the computer - and still no joy. Is there a way of change the device setting for the monitor?
[08:40] <yonatan> sudo: sane-find-scanners: command not found
[08:40] <yonatan> =(
[08:40] <RandolphCarter> dumezil, afaik, it's gnome-volume-manager
[08:40] <thug> ompaul they were in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include
[08:40] <sethk> nocando, dpkg-reconfigure let's you specify the monitor
[08:40] <trappist> yonatan: 13:39 <trappist> yonatan: err, sane-find-scanner
[08:40] <nocando> thanks
[08:40] <sethk> dumezil, udev is where it normally happens
[08:41] <sethk> dumezil, the gnome thing brings up a window showing the file system, but gnome doesn't mount it
[08:41] <thug> trappist thanks again
[08:41] <ompaul> thug, ahh so the "obvious" is not obvious :)
[08:41] <nocando> sethk: dpkg-reconfigure just says "please specify a package to reconfigure" any ideas about this?
[08:41] <thug> ompaul ;)
[08:41] <sethk> nocando, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[08:42] <sethk> or is it xserver-xorg?  I can never remember
[08:42] <Rug> xserver-xorg
[08:42] <nocando> yep it was xserver-xorg. :)
[08:43] <byen_> hey guys can someone help me run last fm via any music player in breezy
[08:43] <yonatan> umm... I don't know what to say... I just plugged it in, typed xsane (the sane-find-scanner sommand doesn't exist) and clicked on scan... it *seems* to be working.... lets find out.
[08:43] <SkedMonger> I think I'm going to cry!! I've lost 5 CD's to Breezy today and keep getting the same error when I try to install it
[08:44] <NoUse> SkedMonger what error message?
[08:44] <|Sivik|> SkedMonger: did you try redownloading or checking the file before you burn it
[08:44] <katie_> anybody here use use a rio audio player?
[08:44] <Rug> SkedMonger: try downloading from a different source.
[08:44] <yonatan> windows = 0, linux = 1
[08:44] <yonatan> =D
[08:44] <|Sivik|> yonatan: what kind of scanner is it?
[08:44] <yonatan> microtek phantom C6
[08:44] <sethk> SkedMonger, if you do the same thing twice and it fails, it will also fail the third, fourth, and fifth time
[08:45] <SkedMonger> Ok, I redownloaded it earlier, and used md5scanner to check the md5 hash, and it matched
[08:45] <SkedMonger> I burnt it to three other CD's as well
[08:45] <|Sivik|> SkedMonger: then try downloading the file from somewhere else cause the one you might be downloading is bad
[08:45] <sethk> SkedMonger, dd the image from the cd and md5sum that
[08:45] <Rug> SkedMonger: what error are you getting?
[08:45] <|Sivik|> SkedMonger: use a different mirror
[08:45] <sethk> SkedMonger, what's the error?
[08:45] <sethk> SkedMonger, did you get the md5sum from the download site?
[08:46] <arrick> OUCH why is my windows server 2003 enterprize faster than when I had the ubuntu/apache2 server?
[08:46] <sethk> |Sivik|, a lot quicker to get the sum from another site, rather than repeating the download from another site.
[08:46] <SkedMonger> just run the CD int. check, and the message is: The ./dists/breezt/restricted/binary-i386/release failed the MD5 checksum verfication. Your CD-Rom or this file might have been corrupted
[08:46] <SkedMonger> ok
[08:46] <|Sivik|> sethk: but if the sum is the same, its not going to do much of anytihng else
[08:46] <yonatan> Rug: Thanks, xsane just works automagically.
[08:47] <sethk> arrick, impossible to say, there are a million ways to tweak things
[08:47] <|Sivik|> SkedMonger: did you run the md5 before you burned the disc
[08:47] <Rug> yupp I use it here
[08:47] <|Sivik|> SkedMonger: what burning software are you using?
[08:47] <SkedMonger> Yes, I got the MD5 sum from the http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ mirror
[08:47] <sethk> |Sivik|, if the sum is the same, then the image is correct, and downloading it again is pointless
[08:47] <SkedMonger> I'm using Alcohol 120%
[08:47] <emmanuel> bazzi
[08:47] <paradizelost> SkedMonger: did you actually md5 the image itself and verify that you had a good download?
[08:47] <arrick> sethk, I tweaked for a month on ubuntu and the default winserv is twice as fast
[08:47] <emmanuel> hola
[08:47] <emmanuel> i happy
[08:48] <sethk> arrick, in general people report the reverse.  running on the same hardware?
[08:48] <NoUse> arrick how are you comparing speed?
[08:48] <arrick> same everything
[08:48] <arrick> ip hardware, domain name, ram everything
[08:48] <|Sivik|> stehk: but if the sum iSKedmonger: where are you downloading the file from?
[08:48] <sethk> arrick, the knock on M$'s server is that it's a security nightmare, not that it is slow
[08:48] <|Sivik|> SkedMonger: where are you downloading the file from?
[08:49] <sethk> |Sivik|, it's reasonable to assume that if you get the _sum_ from two separate ubuntu download sites, the _sum_ is correct.  If the file then matches the _sum_, then the file is correct.
[08:49] <Rug> SkedMonger: can you burn the ISO using a different program?
[08:49] <|Sivik|> sethk: no joke, but if you download another sum and you get the same sum that was already discovered, not from the image, the image is still going to be wrong
[08:49] <SkedMonger> pardizelost: the md5summer that I downloaded generated the MD5 Sum of the ISO, and that matched with the one listed at http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/
[08:49] <arrick> NoUse, it takes my remote box .5 seconds to access the webpage, and with the ubuntu/apache2 the best I got was at least 3 seconds to access it
[08:49] <SkedMonger> Rug: Going to have a go burning it with Nero now
[08:50] <yonatan> well, thanks for all your help. I'm going to rip off some Rosslyn Da Vinci tartan now ;)
[08:50] <sethk> |Sivik|, you aren't listening.  I said to get the _sum_ from the download site.  Not to download and compute the sum.
[08:50] <paradizelost> arrick: sounds like you are having a name resolution issue, not a pulling up the page issue.
[08:50] <sethk> |Sivik|, the download sites post the sum along with the iso files
[08:50] <arrick> paradizelost, that was using the ip not the name with both
[08:50] <paradizelost> what type of page are you using? standard html?
[08:51] <arrick> yep
[08:51] <sethk> arrick, I would have to see a packet trace of the two cases, but I agree with paradizelost, that big a difference can't be caused only by the web server
[08:51] <Rug> arrick: try using lynx as a test-browser too.
[08:51] <paradizelost> http://news.netcraft.com/
[08:51] <arrick> ok
[08:51] <paradizelost> arrick: http://news.netcraft.com/
[08:51] <sethk> arrick, how long does it take the apache test page to come up?
[08:52] <Daniel-_> How do I update the installation from 6.06 beta 1 -> flight 7?
[08:52] <paradizelost> arrick: what you using as a browser? ie, firefox???
[08:52] <sethk> arrick, if apache were 12 times slower, it would not be a secret
[08:52] <victori> what is the difference between multiverse and universe?
[08:52] <arrick> I dont know never looked at the test page
[08:52] <paradizelost> Daniel-_: that's best suited for #ubuntu+1
[08:52] <NoUse> Daniel-_ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:52] <arrick> IE
[08:52] <Daniel-_> paradizelost: I see
[08:52] <Daniel-_> nouse: thanks alot
[08:52] <paradizelost> arrick: might M$ make a different vendor's server page take longer???
[08:53] <paradizelost> Daniel-_: i'd give NoUse's solution a try, and if you have issues, try the other room
[08:53] <victori> anyone?
[08:53] <victori> difference between multiverse and universe?
[08:53] <paradizelost> !repositories
[08:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:53] <arrick> !universe
[08:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:53] <|Sivik|> victori: milti, multipy verses, uni mean one verse
[08:54] <arrick> paradizelost, no\
[08:54] <paradizelost> |Sivik|: but what about the underverse?
[08:54] <byen_> can anyone help me with using lastfm via any music player that comes with breezy
[08:54] <paradizelost> ;)
[08:54] <|Sivik|> paradizelost: lol
[08:54] <arrick> access took as long when I had ubuntu on both and used firefox as well
[08:54] <Rug> byen_: have you tried using Amarok?
[08:54] <arrick> but im not worried about it, I am glad
[08:54] <NoUse> arrick i think its a name resolution issue with apache
[08:54] <|Sivik|> paradizelost: that means under the known universe
[08:55] <arrick> k
[08:55] <paradizelost> |Sivik|: you have seen chronicles of riddick right?
[08:55] <paradizelost> :P
[08:55] <arrick> im not using apache anymore, ao that issue is gone
[08:55] <|Sivik|> paradizelost: yes, love it
[08:56] <paradizelost> when i switched to ubuntu from gentoo, i found the verse thing rather funny
[08:56] <byen_> Rug, nope.. I was trying gnome based.. is amarok better?
[08:56] <sethk> arrick, in answer to your question, then, in most cases apache is faster, and there is absolutely no way that your delay previously was caused by apache per se
[08:56] <paradizelost> they could call the things like libdvdcss2 and libdivx4linux an underverse repository...
[08:56] <Rug> VERY much better
[08:56] <Rug> byen_: best music-collection package on the planet
[08:57] <byen_> but resource hungry aint it Rug?
[08:57] <Rug> I have never noticed (but I do have 2Gb of ram)
[08:57] <byen_> :P
[08:57] <mabus> nick@nostradamus:~/prog$ ssh mabus.sytes.net -p 21
[08:57] <mabus> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[08:57] <Rug> it does work best if you have the ram to spare.
[08:58] <trappist> mabus: -p 21?
[08:58] <mabus> I get those errors when trying to connect to my sshd server (yes, I know 21 is generally ftp)
[08:58] <loco> hello
[08:58] <SkedMonger> what would be the best prog. to use on Windows to burn my ISO ?
[08:58] <paradizelost> SkedMonger: i've had luck w/ nero
[08:58] <loco> a private to solve a DVD problem?
[08:58] <mabus> SkedMonger: Daemon Tools / Alcohol 120%
[08:58] <SkedMonger> ok, cheers
[08:58] <Rug> mabus: does your sshd listening on port 21?
[08:58] <eggzeck> SkedMonger, nero, you dont even have to tell it it's a boot cd
[08:58] <trappist> mabus: try ssh -v and/or check the auth log on the remote box
[08:59] <mabus> Rug: yes, if it wasn't, I wouldn't have gotten that far
[08:59] <reiki> ok this is maybe going to sound like a dumb question, but I don't know so I'm asking... currently have HD on IDE0 and CDROM alone on IDE1. If I add a hard drive to the IDE1 with cdrom and therefore set the cdrom as slave, is Ubuntu going to freak out? Or will I just have to go in and edit fstab and reboot?
[08:59] <paradizelost> reiki: should just have to edit fstab
[08:59] <reiki> the HD I'm adding is an older ATA66 drive just for storage... I don't want it on the same ribbon as my ATA100 main drive
[08:59] <mabus> trappist: The connection gets established, there doesn't appear to be anything wrong until then.
[09:00] <paradizelost> reiki: however, the new hdd is going to run slow as snot, because it's gonna slow down to the cdrom speed
[09:00] <PenguinOfDoom> How do I configure Ubuntu to keep the system clock in the current time zone and not UTC? I'm dual-booting into Windows and it doesn't expect UTC.
[09:00] <paradizelost> mabus: why are you running on port 21?
[09:00] <trappist> mabus: right, sounds like an authentication problem
[09:00] <reiki> paradizelost, better that a storage-only drive runs slow rather than slowing my main hard drive... see what I mean?
[09:00] <paradizelost> PenguinOfDoom: should have asked you which format you wanted to keep time on boot....
[09:00] <sethk> reiki, no problem, however, if it is an eide cable (which is almost certainly is), jumper _both_ as cable select and connect the master to the black connector and the slave to the grey connector
[09:01] <PenguinOfDoom> paradizelost: You mean during installation? It's a bit too late for that now.
[09:01] <paradizelost> reiki: but how hard are you actually hitting your main drive where ATA66 isn't fast enough?
[09:01] <mabus> paradizelost: Because the computer I want to connect to my server with has a strict firewall, but I know you can connect to ftp so I figured I could use putty for ssh/21
[09:01] <paradizelost> mabus: is it a system you are restricted on outbound where you don't have any control over it?
[09:01] <paradizelost> PenguinOfDoom: breezy or dapper?
[09:02] <PenguinOfDoom> paradizelost: dapper, reasonably recent
[09:02] <mabus> paradizelost: Not sure... all I know is that it times out when I tried to connect to sshd on 22, then I put it on 32337 and it still wouldn't
[09:02] <mabus> But I know for a fact you can connect to ftp servers
[09:03] <trappist> mabus: could be the proxy you're trying to go through knows how to distinguish between ssh and ftp traffic
[09:03] <reiki> paradizelost, I understand the speed implications... the drive I'm adding is basically just for storing downloads and files I don't want to download AGAIN when I trash and reinstall this system in a couple months. So I just didn't see the logic in slowing my entire system down for a drive that'll get accessed maybe a couple times a week
[09:03] <kevlar_> hello world :)
[09:03] <PenguinOfDoom> mabus: Time to write an ssh-over-ftp tunnel!
[09:03] <mabus> trappist: If that's the case, I will come across that problem later. Haven't gotten to that yet, I'm on the comp with the sshd server.
[09:04] <kevlar_> is there any FREE windows emulator for ubuntu?
[09:04] <mabus> PenguinOfDoom: explain?
[09:04] <mabus> kevlar_: wine
[09:04] <LKRaider> kevlar_: vmware player
[09:04] <fundacite> En la distro que actualmente estoy usando (ubuntu ver 5.10) existe un bug en el manejo de la disquetera, no permite montarla.
[09:04] <fundacite> Que debo descargar y de donde para corregir tal bug?
[09:04] <mabus> !es
[09:04] <Rug> !es
[09:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:04] <Rug> =)
[09:04] <fundacite> Gracias
[09:05] <PenguinOfDoom> mabus: FTP allows one to transfer arbitrary binary data. Including your ssh session
[09:05] <mabus> PenguinOfDoom: Well I can program okay... what's a good language and some things to google around with?
[09:06] <mneptok> mabus: use ssh -v when connecting
[09:06] <PenguinOfDoom> mabus: I don't know! FTP is a pain in the ass to implement. I'd probably try to use Twisted's (www.twistedmatrix.com) FTP implementation.
[09:07] <mneptok> vsftpd is a better choice.
[09:07] <PenguinOfDoom> mabus: Make sure FTP does work :P
[09:07] <mabus> mneptok: #floodme
[09:07] <mneptok> FTP is frought with peril, being cleartext.
[09:07] <mneptok> mabus: huh?
[09:07] <mabus> mneptok: it's too big to paste in here but I don't want to pastebin
[09:08] <mabus> -v
[09:08] <sethk> if the data stream sent via ftp is encrypted, then the ftp vulnerability becomes irrelevant
[09:08] <paradizelost> mabus: i recommend perl
[09:08] <mneptok> mabus: only the last couple lines are of interest. that will tell you exactly where ssh is falling down.
[09:08] <PenguinOfDoom> sethk: You still want to make MitM less than trivial.
[09:08] <skwid_> hi
[09:08] <skwid_> I get this error when trying to upgrade to dapper
[09:09] <mabus> debug1: identity file /home/nick/.ssh/identity type -1
[09:09] <mabus> debug1: identity file /home/nick/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
[09:09] <mabus> debug1: identity file /home/nick/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
[09:09] <mabus> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[09:09] <rogue-> is ubuntu good for gay men ?
[09:09] <skwid_> Invalid package information
[09:09] <skwid_> After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-base' can not be found anymore.
[09:09] <skwid_> This indicates a serious error, please report this as a bug.
[09:09] <sethk> PenguinOfDoom, anybody can snag the ssh datastream as it travels over the net.  the fact that it is pointed at port 21 somewhere does not increase that vulnerability at all.
[09:09] <skwid_> any idea ?
[09:09] <paradizelost> rogue-: no, you want an imac
[09:09] <paradizelost> :D
[09:09] <rogue-> but someone said ubuntu is for fags
[09:09] <Minty> hello
[09:09] <amanda> how do I download ubuntu from my computer for someone elses use
[09:09] <amanda> ?
[09:09] <mneptok> mabus: is connection to that ssh server by pubkey only?
[09:09] <skwid_> please ? :)
[09:10] <mabus> mneptok: no
[09:10] <sethk> we wouldn't have a troll here by any chance?
[09:10] <paradizelost> amanda: download the ISO and install/or use livecd
[09:10] <rogue-> is it ? is ubuntu for fags ?
[09:10] <PenguinOfDoom> sethk: Replacing a PORT command to point to the intercepting host is more convenient than redirecting a whole TCP stream :P
[09:10] <mabus> !ops
[09:10] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[09:10] <amanda> Where do I find the ISO?
[09:10] <mneptok> mabus: what command are you using to connect?
[09:10] <Seveas> mabus, ?
[09:10] <nalioth> mabus: ?
[09:10] <mabus> rogue-:
[09:10] <deep_> Hello everyone. :)
[09:10] <jdavila> amanda: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[09:10] <Minty> newbie question, have no sound from my laptop while playing a Cd any quick ideas
[09:10] <PenguinOfDoom> whoah
[09:11] <paradizelost> amanda: go to ubuntu.com and click download
[09:11] <PenguinOfDoom> Seveas: What's the button for the fancy kick?
[09:11] <paradizelost> !download
[09:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, download is get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[09:11] <sethk> PenguinOfDoom, no it isn't, not at all.  If you are talking about someone with root access to the machine that the ftp server is running on, he can just snag the data after it's decrypted.  Anywhere else along the line there is absolutely no difference in the difficulting of snagging a stream going to port 22 vs s
[09:11] <Seveas> PenguinOfDoom, /lart nickname
[09:11] <mneptok> Minty: check and ensure the sound mixer doesn't have the CD channel muted.
[09:11] <nalioth> PenguinOfDoom: there is no button, it's a script
[09:11] <Rug> The bot doesn't like Seveas....   There's going to be trouble!
[09:11] <sethk> PenguinOfDoom, in one case you have  a tcp stream to port 22.  in the other you have a stream to port 21.  there is no difference in difficulty of interception
[09:11] <Minty> done thank its ok
[09:11] <Seveas> PenguinOfDoom, but that only works in my script ;)
[09:11] <Seveas> Rug, ?
[09:11] <jdavila> What's the real difference between Ubuntu and Debian???
[09:11] <Seveas> !tell jdavila aboutr debian
[09:12] <paradizelost> PenguinOfDoom: even w/ the different ports, on a packet sniff, you can still tell that they're ssh packets
[09:12] <mneptok> sethk: except ssh streams are encrypted.
[09:12] <sethk> mneptok, we are talking about sending an encrypted stream to port 21 instead of port 22
[09:12] <mneptok> sethk: hence the differentiation between "cleartext" and "encrypted"
[09:12] <Seveas> !tell jdavila about debian
[09:12] <sethk> mneptok, no, there is no cleartext
[09:13] <sethk> mneptok, the discussion is about tunelling an ssh stream through port 21 because port 22 is blocked by a firewall
[09:13] <mneptok> sethk: if you mean running ssh on a different port does not reduce security, you are correct.
[09:13] <skwid_> can someone paste me their repositories file ??????
[09:13] <jdavila> thanks Seveas
[09:13] <Seveas> !tell skwid_ about repos
[09:13] <paradizelost> sethk: it's not tunneling the ssh connection
[09:13] <PenguinOfDoom> rarr too much noise
[09:13] <sethk> paradizelost, how not?
[09:13] <paradizelost> sethk: tunneling would be having ssh access and "tunneling" port 80 through the ssh tunnel to a remote machine
[09:13] <arrick> yep
[09:13] <paradizelost> i used to have to tunnel RDP to get into secure networks through 3 hops
[09:14] <sethk> paradizelost, tunneling has nothing to do specifically with port 80
[09:14] <paradizelost> sethk the port isn't what matters
[09:14] <arrick> nope
[09:14] <sethk> paradizelost, you can tunnel through any open port
[09:14] <paradizelost> there's a difference between tunneling, and changing the F*ing port it runs on
[09:14] <skwid_> Seveas, ???
[09:14] <trappist> tunneling is encapsulating the ssh traffic in, say, the http protocol
[09:14] <sethk> paradizelost, ok, that's true, this is more secure than the tunnel
[09:14] <trappist> or ftp in this case
[09:14] <Seveas> skwid_, ubotu told you what you want to know
[09:15] <sethk> trappist, that's an arbitrary definition, but in this case, we are encapsulating the ssh traffic using the ftp protocol, so there is no difference
[09:15] <paradizelost> sethk: WTF are you talking about?
[09:15] <Absolute0> whats the package that installs the jdk?
[09:15] <trappist> sethk: right, http was just an example
[09:15] <Seveas> !tell Absolute0 about java
[09:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Absolute0 about java
[09:15] <paradizelost> he's talking about running his SSH server on port 21 instead of port 22, not tunneling the SSH traffic through an FTP connection
[09:15] <skwid_> Seveas, ok thanks
[09:15] <paradizelost> the port has nothing to do w/ how the data is encapsulated
[09:16] <sethk> paradizelost, of course not, that was exactly my point.
[09:16] <paradizelost> just like running a web server on port 80 or port 8080 doesn't make the traffic secured at all
[09:16] <sethk> paradizelost, yes, that was exactly my point.
[09:16] <ubuntu> i do not understand this OP system im running.  HELP!!!!!!1
[09:16] <paradizelost> sethk: k. cuz you sounded like you were arguing the point...
[09:16] <skwid_> Seveas, where is the sources.list located ?
[09:16] <sethk> paradizelost, no, not at all
[09:16] <Seveas> paradizelost, well, if "security through obscurity" counts... 
[09:16] <Seveas> skwid_, /etc/apt/
[09:16] <skwid_> thx
[09:17] <paradizelost> Seveas: that would be running my http server on port 53421
[09:17] <paradizelost> :D
[09:17] <Rug> ubuntu: ask specific questions, relax, and understand we are doing this for free.
[09:17] <ubuntu> Can somebody tell me a little about LINUX?
[09:17] <Seveas> indeed, relax, that's the most important 
[09:17] <eobanb_> sure, ubuntu.  what would you like to know?
[09:17] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: what do you want to know
[09:17] <NoUse> ubuntu read http://help.ubuntu.com
[09:18] <Rug> Rule #1.   Linux is NOT windows.
[09:18] <|Sivik|> or go read about linux at www.wikipedia.org
[09:18] <Seveas> ubuntu, if you want a general introduction: read a (digital) book, There are lots of good ones
[09:18] <mneptok> Rule #2. Thank God.
[09:18] <paradizelost> ubuntu: ask a specific ?, because telling you a little about linux, could mean telling you how to use the mouse, to telling you how to configure LAMP
[09:18] <Rug> mneptok: har
[09:18] <paradizelost> Rule #3, Linus is GOD
[09:18] <jdavila> Amen mneptok
[09:18] <Seveas> mneptok, no, thank sabdfl 
[09:18] <ubuntu> I can not download the shock player
[09:18] <kbrooks> i have a question
[09:18] <maccam94> what partition apps are available on the ubuntu livecd? (besides fdisk)
[09:18] <paradizelost> :P
[09:18] <salmiak> paradizelost, ;D
[09:18] <|Sivik|> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:18] <mneptok> Seveas: i will when i see him next :)
[09:18] <Seveas> paradizelost, linus is a fool
[09:18] <nalioth> maccam94: gparted
[09:18] <Rug> maccam94: gparted
[09:18] <paradizelost> maccam94: possibly try gparted
[09:19] <ubuntu> i can not download anything for that matter
[09:19] <kbrooks> Seveas: do you likre RMS
[09:19] <paradizelost> Seveas: i do hope that was sarcastic....
[09:19] <Seveas> ubuntu, how are you trying to download? from the web or ftp or peer-to-peer programs?
[09:19] <jdavila> Seveas: why U say Linus is a fool??
[09:19] <ubuntu> What is FTP?
[09:19] <paradizelost> Seveas: considering the system you are talking about here would be much different
[09:19] <paradizelost> FTP = file transfer protocol
[09:19] <paradizelost> !ftp
[09:19] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[09:19] <Seveas> kbrooks, I like people like sabdfl and jdub, not the egocentrics like rms, esr etc...
[09:19] <salmiak> ubuntu, File Tranfer Protocol
[09:20] <mneptok> Linus is just like anyone else. he has his good and bad points.
[09:20] <maccam94> nalioth, Rug, paradizelost: thanks, helping a friend install linux over IM, not easy without the screen in front of me ;-)
[09:20] <Seveas> but we're going offtopic here 
[09:20] <kbrooks> Seveas: can we go to -offtopic
[09:20] <ubuntu> My puter is hacked.
[09:20] <Rug> maccam94: ssh into his box and/or VNC
[09:20] <paradizelost> maccam94: he isn't installing dapper from the livecd is he?
[09:20] <ubuntu> i keep getting things on it to run up my memery
[09:20] <ubuntu> memory
[09:20] <maccam94> Rug: i don't have enough bandwidth atm
[09:20] <jdavila> can ubuntu be installed on my xbox???
[09:21] <mneptok> jdavila: no.
[09:21] <maccam94> paradizelost: no, i'm helping him install gentoo thru the livecd ;-)
[09:21] <ubuntu> LOL
[09:21] <paradizelost> jdavila: depends how much work you want to put into it....
[09:21] <ubuntu> What xbox
[09:21] <maccam94> paradizelost: he's outta CD-Rs
[09:21] <paradizelost> maccam94: why not have him use cfdisk on the CLI?
[09:21] <steffi> I connected a usb web cam.. How I use it??
[09:21] <maccam94> jdavila: idk, but gentoo can be
[09:21] <eggzeck> mneptok, it IS possible
[09:21] <eobanb_> jdavila, no, not without a HUGE amount of trouble.  there are other distributions more suitable for the xbox
[09:21] <mneptok> maccam94: uhhh .... anyone that needs help installing Linux should NOT be using Gentoo.
[09:21] <jdavila> paradizelost: explain me a little bit pliz
[09:21] <maccam94> paradizelost: because he's a linux n00b and the ntfs partitions need to be resized
[09:21] <eobanb_> steffi, it depends on what webcam it is
[09:22] <mneptok> eggzeck: for certain definitions of "possible"
[09:22] <amanda> I don't have a good enough connection to download it is there any way that I can download it from my computer to a disk?
[09:22] <maccam94> mneptok: i started out on gentoo, he can too ;-)
[09:22] <mneptok> Gentoo is for ricers.
[09:22] <mneptok> :P
[09:22] <steffi> eobanb, it says kinstone
[09:22] <eobanb_> mneptok, no flamewars please
[09:22] <jdavila> eobanb_: which distro do U suggest me????
[09:22] <ubuntu> I have gone from XP to this.
[09:22] <ubuntu> It is very difficult to understand
[09:23] <mneptok> eobanb_: it's not a flamewar. it's a statement of fact from someone whose paycheck relies on Ubuntu. ;)
[09:23] <Seveas> mneptok, please no distrowars in here, /dev/null is a better place for that
[09:23] <eobanb_> jdavila, that's kind of out of scope of this channel, but to point you in the right direction, check out http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[09:24] <nalioth> jdavila: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:24] <bigmoe> anyone knows how to configure clients for tor or privoxy
[09:24] <paradizelost> ubuntu: it's not difficult to understand, it's just different than ur used to
[09:24] <eobanb_> bigmoe, i dont know TOO much about tor, but from what i understand they just use a local socks or http proxy
[09:24] <nalioth> bigmoe: perhaps asking in #tor would be better?
[09:24] <ubuntu> Way different
[09:24] <eobanb_> nalioth, agreed
[09:25] <mutante> can i already order a CD of Xubuntu? with xfce that is
[09:25] <mutante> i heard its coming?
[09:25] <eobanb_> ubuntu, if you ask a specific question, then we can help you
[09:25] <Seveas> mutante, not for dapper
[09:25] <eobanb_> mutante, eventually, but not yet
[09:25] <Seveas> mutante, you can download an iso though
[09:25] <paradizelost> brb
[09:25] <ubuntu> I want yahoo messenger
[09:25] <crazy_penguin> hi all
[09:25] <eobanb_> mutante, it's also easy to install xubuntu without a CD if you already have an installation of ubuntu
[09:25] <crazy_penguin> i have the following problem:
[09:25] <mutante> thanks, btw i already ordered 20 CDs twice and gave them all to real people
[09:26] <NoUse> ubuntu gaim connects to yahoo's servers
[09:26] <Rug> ubuntu: use Gaim, it can connect to the Yahoo network
[09:26] <eobanb_> ubuntu, might i suggest an application called gaim
[09:26] <crazy_penguin> on my system i use dual boot
[09:26] <squidgy> ubuntu: try gaim.  It does that and several other messenger protocols
[09:26] <Seveas> ubuntu, you can use gaim for communicating via the yahoo network (applications  internet  gaim)
[09:26] <jdavila> ubuntu: you can use gaim instead of YM
[09:26] <eobanb_> okay i think he gets the idea :D
[09:26] <mutante> even though they all get confused with your way of setting up "sudo" and the root account ;)
[09:26] <Rug> Maybe we should suggest gaim?
[09:26] <eobanb_> ^___^
[09:26] <NoUse> Rug 18 more times
[09:26] <ubuntu> U are not speaking my language
[09:26] <bigmoe> eobanb_: i have configured tor and privoxy on linux server and it is working fine but when i put the proxy in the client web browser nothing is displayed
[09:26] <ubuntu> GAIM?
[09:26] <ubuntu> whats that
[09:26] <pozdiy> how to get rid of irritating "beeps" under Breezy/Gnome - "beeps" in vim , for example?
[09:26] <salmiak> ubuntu: "start-menu"->internet->gaim
[09:27] <Rug> I _never_ want to hear about people in this channle not being helpfull!
[09:27] <Drake`> what could be the cause of an error happening when trying to mount/umount/eject a cd from nautilus but it is possible from the command line?
[09:27] <eobanb_> ubuntu, it's an instant messenging program that comes installed with ubuntu.
[09:27] <jdavila> ubuntu: or try downloading the package from YM homepage
[09:27] <mneptok> Rug: that wasn't very helpful :)
[09:27] <ubuntu> I did that
[09:27] <Rug> hehe
[09:27] <ubuntu> and it will not let me
[09:27] <ubuntu> o well
[09:27] <mutante> eobanb_: i was primarily interested in getting the CDs from shipit with Xubuntu, cause i give out quite a few CDs to other people, rather than using Ubuntu myself
[09:27] <mneptok> ubuntu: Applications > Internet > GAIM
[09:27] <eobanb_> ubuntu, if i was you, i wouldnt bother with the official version of yahoo messenger for linux, and i'd just use Gaim instead.
[09:27] <ubuntu> im gonna throw this puter out and get a new one
[09:27] <steffi> how install my usb webcam to ubuntu???
[09:28] <salmiak> ubuntu, why?
[09:28] <eobanb_> mutante, understandable.  i'm afraid you'll just have to burn your own xubuntu discs for the time being.
[09:28] <lithium-> hi
[09:28] <ubuntu> This computer was hacked
[09:28] <eobanb_> ubuntu, with respect, i highly doubt that.
[09:28] <ubuntu> i have wrote zeros partitioned and formatted and nopthing works
[09:28] <eobanb_> steffi, try just plugging it in and do sudo apt-get install xawtv
[09:28] <eobanb_> steffi, then run xawtv and see if it can detect your webcam.
[09:28] <ubuntu> My hard drive keeps going out
[09:28] <steffi> eobanb, ok
[09:28] <eobanb_> steffi, if not we'll go from there
[09:29] <ubuntu> and mu memory keeps getting ran up
[09:29] <salmiak> ubuntu, maybe it's some hardware problem?
[09:29] <Drake`> any ideas what would not allow mount/umount/eject in nautilus but would allow you to do all from the command line?
[09:29] <mutante> ubuntu: you must have been lucky getting that nick ;)
[09:29] <paradizelost> ubuntu: your hard drive could be going out, or you could have bad memory
[09:29] <paradizelost> have you run memtest from the kernel menu?
[09:29] <eobanb_> mutante, afaik it's the default user name in ubuntu, which most people never use
[09:30] <pozdiy> mutante, only real cool hackers get such a nicks
[09:30] <mutante> eobanb_: yeah, because its the default ,you would be lucky if nobody else had taken it before ;)
[09:30] <mutante> especially here, where nicks are registered
[09:30] <eobanb_> mutante, well, i was just saying that nearly everyone picks a different user name than the default.
[09:31] <mutante> pozdiy: the cool hackers use root ;)
[09:31] <pozdiy> mutante, sorry, forgotten :-)))
[09:31] <ubuntu> thats it
[09:31] <ubuntu> roots
[09:31] <jdavila> it's possible to install a Windows Application on a Samba Share froma Windows Client????
[09:31] <eobanb_> for the record, running your irc client as root is a rather bad idea
[09:31] <paradizelost> yes
[09:31] <paradizelost> ------------------------^^ very correct
[09:31] <mutante> unless its just the fake ident that is root :p
[09:31] <vincenz> Anyone know a good projectm anagement tool for linux?
[09:32] <scarn> i installed nvidia settings but its not showing up in any menus. is there a way to get it to show? ubuntu 64bit
[09:32] <vincenz> something to allow me to define tasks and tasks dependencies
[09:32] <vincenz> and then schedule it onto my calendar
[09:32] <Seveas> vincenz, launchpad 
[09:32] <mutante> vincenz: mediawiki with tasks extension and calendar extension
[09:32] <jdavila> it's possible to install a Windows Application on a Samba Share from a Windows Client????
[09:33] <salmiak> jdavila, you mean doubleclicking on a file in a samba share and installing it on the client
[09:33] <salmiak> then, yes.
[09:33] <eobanb_> jdavila, i'm not sure what you're asking
[09:33] <vincenz> Seveas: launchpad?
[09:33] <salmiak> but installing something ON a samba share?
[09:33] <Seveas> vincenz, http://launchpad.net/ - the same service Ubuntu uses for project management
[09:33] <salmiak> well, i guess it's possible to install it on the samba share if you got write permissions
[09:33] <jdavila> nop, i mean doubleclicking on a file in a samba share and installing it on the share to run it later on multiple clients
[09:34] <vincenz> Seveas: it's a webbased system
[09:34] <mutante> salmiak: like when he is at the windows client installing a setup.exe and he picks the network drive which is mapped via samba on the linux server ,and tells the windows app to install in that path
[09:34] <ubuntu> yes that is what has happened mutante
[09:34] <harisund> jdavila: it will install on the share if you have write permissions, but whether it will work from other windows client is doubtful
[09:34] <ubuntu> how can i fix it
[09:34] <steffi> eobanb, I installed xawtv ..and when I tried to run it, my box frozen.. totally .. first time
[09:34] <Seveas> vincenz, yes
[09:34] <Seveas> so it's cross-platform
[09:34] <vincenz> Seveas: preferably an app
[09:35] <mutante> ubuntu: fix what?
[09:35] <Drake`> no one has any idea what would cause not being able to mount/umount in nautilus but able to do it with the same account from the command line?
[09:35] <harisund> jdavila: Windows creates registry keys etc. Those registry keys might not be present on another client
[09:35] <ubuntu> i have bad roots
[09:35] <steffi> eobanb, u recommend to run it again?
[09:35] <ubuntu> how can i fix it
[09:35] <salmiak> jdavila, i guess it would work, if it's an app that doesn't do something with the registry
[09:35] <ubuntu> that hacker has gone by roots
[09:35] <eobanb_> ubuntu, can you re-phrase your question
[09:35] <ubuntu> i them them\
[09:35] <grogoreo> hi
[09:35] <ubuntu> i see them*
[09:35] <mutante> ubuntu: you have bad roots? are you a tree?
[09:35] <paradizelost> ubuntu: i think you need an imac
[09:35] <mutante> what do you mean
[09:36] <ubuntu> lol
[09:36] <pozdiy> ubuntu, dangerous hackers are everywhere...
[09:36] <ubuntu> i do not know computer talk
[09:36] <harisund> salmiak, I agree. jdavila it would work if the app doesn't require files anywhere else. In other words, if the app is stand alone and runs only from the directory it was installed, typically it should work
[09:36] <grogoreo> does anyone know of a program that will encode RealAudio files? Like Real Producer?
[09:36] <mutante> you forgot your root password?
[09:36] <eobanb_> ubuntu, i really doubt your machine is hacked, so please, stop saying it is
[09:36] <paradizelost> !root
[09:36] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:36] <ubuntu> i have taken this machine to have it fixed and nobdy can i dentify the problem
[09:36] <mutante> you dont know how to get a real root shell on Ubuntu and are confused with sudo?
[09:36] <jdavila> ok samlmiak, i'll have to make some test overhere, let U know sometime later ;-)
[09:36] <mutante> yeah, many people are
[09:36] <mutante> use "sudo su" /me hides
[09:36] <scarn> anyone know how to get nvidia settings to show up in the menu? i installed it but its not listed
[09:36] <_antix> ubuntu: then it's highly unlikely somoeone on irc is going to be able to tell you how to fix it
[09:36] <Seveas> mutante, sudo -i you mean 
[09:37] <paradizelost> !tell mutante about root
[09:37] <paradizelost> !tell mutante about root
[09:37] <paradizelost> !tell mutante about root
[09:37] <paradizelost> :D
[09:37] <paradizelost> :P
[09:37] <sethk> mutante, why would you use sudo su instead of su?
[09:37] <salmiak> jdavila, sounds great. Good luck ;)
[09:37] <ubuntu> i have TEMP files i am denied to remove
[09:37] <mutante> sethk: i would only on Ubuntu, because it is "weird" ,,shrug
[09:37] <mutante> reads on root
[09:37] <Rug> ubuntu: what is your password?  We will be able to tell if somebody has hacked into your machine.
[09:37] <Rug> jk
[09:37] <Seveas> Rug, ...
[09:37] <ubuntu> password for what
[09:37] <Rug> sorry couldn't resist
[09:37] <hurax> sethk: if root has no password you can't use su
[09:37] <salmiak> Rug, :(
[09:37] <Rug> I M JOKING
[09:37] <sethk> mutante, on root is incorrect and a myth.  su works just fine.  there is absolutely nothing different about root on ubuntu compared to other linux distros
[09:38] <sethk> hurax, indeed, and you can't use sudo su either
[09:38] <_antix> Rug: problem is he'll probably tell you
[09:38] <hurax> but "sudo sh" gives you a rootshell too
[09:38] <Rug> ubuntu: giving out your password is HOW hackers can get in
[09:38] <Seveas> hurax, yes, the bad way
[09:38] <Drake`> hello hello am I lagged ;)
[09:38] <ubuntu> i have never givin my password out
[09:38] <Seveas> the only correct way to get a root shell is sudo -i or sudo su -
[09:38] <ubuntu> i do not have one
[09:38] <paradizelost> sethk: they just scramble the root password, and make you use sudo so you aren't logging in to gdm as root and screwing stuff up
[09:38] <_antix> Rug: although calling them "hackers" at that point is questionable ;)
[09:38] <harisund> Can I just go ahead and make an edit on the Ubuntu wiki page? I want to include information about creating config files in the SSH section.
[09:38] <engla> Seveas: what's wrong with sudo -s ?
[09:38] <Seveas> paradizelost, nonsense
[09:38] <Rug> _antix: not the point I was trying to make.   =)
[09:39] <mutante> sethk: for some reason everybody gets confused with something about it on Ubuntu. I cant recall it exactly, but was different compared to Debian
[09:39] <salmiak> ubuntu, what's wrong with the computer you're trying to fix? try to explain what's wrong :)
[09:39] <eobanb_> ubuntu, if you're not going to ask a particular question, we can't help you
[09:39] <sammy_> Can anybody help me install vmware please?
[09:39] <eobanb_> !anyone
[09:39] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[09:39] <sethk> paradizelost, that is not true of ubuntu in general and is equally true of all other linux distros.  If you choose, for example, the expert install, you are prompted for the root password
[09:39] <Seveas> !vmware
[09:39] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seveas
[09:39] <paradizelost> sammy_: server or workstatino
[09:39] <Seveas> ubotu, you useless bot...
[09:39] <ubotu> Seveas: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:39] <sethk> and it is equally possible to set, or not set, the root password on all distros.
[09:39] <hastesaver> How do I force apt to install from a particular repo?
[09:39] <sammy_> what?
[09:39] <sammy_> ohhh
[09:39] <sammy_> workstation
[09:40] <ubuntu> how does memory go low when i have never put any thing important on my puter
[09:40] <paradizelost> ubuntu: how much memory does the computer have?
[09:40] <paradizelost> sammy_: what file have you downloaded/version purchased?
[09:40] <ubuntu> i have ran that test and i can not tell
[09:40] <_antix> I think he's confused memory with disk space
[09:40] <fj2> hy all i got a problem with the libGL ... anyone can help?
[09:40] <sammy_> downloaded 5.5.1
[09:40] <sammy_> tar.gz
[09:40] <harisund> ubuntu there are a couple of programs that you could run to figure out what applications are hogging memory. On the command line you could use top, or you could run gnome-system-monitor for a Windows Task manager equivalent on Gnome
[09:40] <ubuntu> no i have not
[09:40] <ubuntu> there is alot of disk space
[09:40] <jdavila> can somebody expalain me wtf is a puter?? (i'm latino)
[09:40] <pozdiy> ubuntu, perhaps you hsould not attempt to "repair that puter"...
[09:41] <|Sivik|> when i'm running sudo chroot /chroot/, what locales do i need to generate
[09:41] <salmiak> ah, ubuntu, that's just the aggressive memory usage
[09:41] <_antix> ubuntu: I'm afraid if you don't know how much memory you have, you might be using the wrong operating system.
[09:41] <paradizelost> sammy_: ok, have you installed the kernel headers, build-essential and xinetd?
[09:41] <sammy_> it says "in which directory do you want to install the binary files? [/usr/bin] " and idk what to put now
[09:41] <pozdiy> jdavila, in ancient Rome puter was a special slave , helping his master to penetrete his wife...
[09:41] <paradizelost> ubuntu as i said, you need an imac
[09:41] <salmiak> you see, ubuntu, why should alot of memory be left unused? why not instead use the memory to swapping and stuff?
[09:41] <ubuntu> you are not speaking my language
[09:42] <ubuntu> puter means computer
[09:42] <paradizelost> sammy_: for the most part i usually accept defaults
[09:42] <sammy_> so dont put anything?
[09:42] <harisund> ubuntu you could execute "cat /proc/meminfo" for memory related details.
[09:42] <pozdiy> ubuntu, sorry, I know now
[09:42] <eobanb_> ubuntu, open a terminal window and type 'top' with no quotes.  look where it says "Mem: xxxxx k total'
[09:42] <paradizelost> sammy_: press enter accepts the defaults
[09:42] <_antix> oh! I thought puter was a flatulent person.
[09:42] <ubuntu> ha ha ha
[09:42] <jpanegasser> im trying to set up request tracker, but my rt_siteconfig.pm is owned by root, how do i edit it?
[09:42] <Kingdong> what does ubuntu use? xfree86 or x.org?
[09:42] <salmiak> kingb, x.org
[09:42] <harisund> I am banned from the #ubuntu-offtopic channel. Could the ops explain why? I am really sorry if I had broken an rule unknowingly..
[09:43] <salmiak> Kingdong, xorg
[09:43] <salmiak> sorry ;)
[09:43] <sammy_> and then it says What is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6.d/)? [/etc] 
[09:43] <Kingdong> that is what i thought. Thanx! :)
[09:43] <paradizelost> sammy_: defaults
[09:43] <sammy_> okay thank you :)
[09:43] <paradizelost> sammy_: you are installing on ubuntu correct?
[09:43] <paradizelost> just making sure
[09:43] <sammy_> yes sir
[09:43] <sammy_> or ma'am
[09:43] <sethk> jpanegasser, use sudo to get root privileges
[09:44] <paradizelost> sammy_: is there a reason your using workstation instead of server?
[09:44] <harisund> Are there any ops here could inform me why I was banned from #ubuntu-offtopic? Did I do something wrong?
[09:44] <paradizelost> server is free....
[09:44] <ubuntu> How can i get my cd rom to work while i have this op system
[09:44] <sammy_> well im like brand new to linux
[09:44] <ubuntu> the disk is in there and i can not open it
[09:44] <Drake`> what could possibly cause not able to mount/umount cdrom from nautilus but can do so from command line?
[09:44] <sammy_> and just want to get windows so i can run both so i can listen to music and stuff
[09:44] <salmiak> ubuntu, you're using the live-cd?
[09:44] <jpanegasser> sethk whats the full command?
[09:44] <paradizelost> ubuntu: are you booted to the livecd?
[09:44] <ubuntu> yes
[09:45] <harisund> Drake` maybe you are trying to mount the wrong drive?
[09:45] <_antix> lol
[09:45] <sethk> jpanegasser, sudo plus whatever you were going to run that didn't work because the file was owned by root
[09:45] <paradizelost> sammy_: you aren't going to be able to listen to music in a windows virtual machine very well
[09:45] <sammy_> ohhhh
[09:45] <NoUse> ubuntu you can't eject the CD while you are using the liveCD
[09:45] <sammy_> I thought that it like ran windows regularly just in a linux window
[09:45] <ubuntu> yes booted to the live cd
[09:45] <jpanegasser> sethk, im trying to edit /etc/request-tracker3.4/RT_SiteConfig.pm
[09:46] <ubuntu> ok what can i do to just install this op
[09:46] <paradizelost> sammy_: just like you won't be able to play 3d FPS games in vmware and have good performance
[09:46] <|Sivik|> does anyone know about configuring locales?
[09:46] <NoUse> ubuntu download the install CD and boot from it
[09:46] <paradizelost> ubuntu: download the install cd
[09:46] <crimsun> |Sivik|: breezy or dapper?
[09:46] <|Sivik|> crimsun: dapper
[09:46] <sethk> jpanegasser, I have no way of knowing which editor you want to use
[09:46] <crimsun> |Sivik|: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:46] <jdavila> ubuntu: you better install ubuntu in you harddrive
[09:46] <sammy_> paradize: is there a way I can access files off windows such as mp3s so I can play them on linux?
[09:46] <jpanegasser> sethk, just guess haha
[09:46] <pozdiy> paradizelost, he said he wants to "repaier that puter", wouldn't he kill data present before?
[09:46] <salmiak> ubuntu, you're asking us why your memory usage is hell-high on your windows machine?
[09:47] <jpanegasser> sethk, so i just have to give the editor sudo?
[09:47] <salmiak> just curious
[09:47] <ubuntu> how?
[09:47] <_antix> apparently he's asking why it's high on the livecd...
[09:47] <NoUse> salmiak I think he was on a livecd
[09:47] <ubuntu> do i install
[09:47] <paradizelost> pozdiy: yah, but he asked how to install the operating system
[09:47] <NoUse> ubuntu get the live cd and boot from it
[09:47] <ubuntu> yes i am
[09:47] <sethk> jpanegasser, preceding a command with sudo runs that command with root privileges
[09:47] <pozdiy> paradizelost, ah, OK :-)
[09:47] <ubuntu> i did boot from it
[09:47] <NoUse> !tell ubuntu about install
[09:47] <paradizelost> sammy_: you can mount the windows parition and open the files that are on it
[09:48] <NoUse> ubuntu you said you were on the live cd? the installation cd is different
[09:48] <paradizelost> sammy_: you won't be able to change any of them
[09:48] <salmiak> NoUse, yes, but why is he on a livecd? cuz his OS won't work, and what OS can it be then? ;)
[09:48] <jpanegasser> sethk, the thing is i dont know the command to edit this
[09:48] <sammy_> Would you mind telling me how to do that or where I can go to find out how?
[09:48] <_antix> salmiak: dos 5?
[09:48] <ubuntu> i know nothing about computers
[09:48] <_antix> you don't say
[09:48] <pozdiy> !tell sammy_ about shares
[09:48] <ubuntu> all i know os that something is wrong with this one
[09:48] <ubuntu> it runs to slow
[09:48] <sethk> jpanegasser, there are many editors you can use.  you aren't familiar with any of them?
[09:48] <eobanb_> sammy_, just go to System > Administration > Disks
[09:48] <Drake`> harisund: I have tried to mount the same drive in nautilus right after I have mounted and umounted it from the command line and it says "Error: could not execute pmount" but when I mount /dev/hdc it mounts flawlessly
[09:49] <jpanegasser> sethk, no
[09:49] <ubuntu> and says virtual memory low
[09:49] <_antix> ubuntu: might help to learn something about computers.. then you can find out why it runs slow.
[09:49] <sethk> jpanegasser, try gedit, then, it's quite easy.  assuming X is running
[09:49] <NoUse> ubuntu, we're not gonna support your windows machine
[09:49] <salmiak> ubuntu, Windows computer?
[09:49] <ubuntu> yes
[09:49] <sammy_> When I am in disks how do I access files?
[09:49] <paradizelost> ubuntu: find and delete normal.dot
[09:49] <NoUse> !windows
[09:49] <ubuntu> gateway
[09:49] <ubotu> For help with microsoft windows, please visit ##windows
[09:49] <eobanb_> ubuntu, this is an ubuntu support channel, not a windows one
[09:49] <jpanegasser> sethk, thanks
[09:49] <ubuntu> and im supposed to have windows xp
[09:49] <eobanb_> sammy_, do you see your hard drive or drives in the left column?
[09:50] <mirak> it would be nice to have a packet remove-kde or remove-gnome . in fact it would be nice to have metapackage who just removes stuffs with dependencies
[09:50] <sammy_> Yes
[09:50] <ubuntu> i cant even go to the site im blocked out
[09:50] <eobanb_> sammy_, choose the one that has your windows partition on it, then click the partition tab
[09:50] <harisund> Drake` I think if you go to System->Preferences->Removable Media, you would be able to check/uncheck options for auto mounting CD Roms, could you check if you have that enabled?
[09:50] <eobanb_> sammy_, and then choose the partition you want to mount
[09:50] <salmiak> ubuntu: /join #windows
[09:50] <ubuntu> i cant get security updates
[09:50] <pozdiy> !tell sammy_ about partitions
[09:50] <jdavila> ubuntu: you
[09:50] <salmiak> ubuntu, write that in the text field you're writing your messages to us in ;)
[09:50] <eobanb_> sammy_, pick a place to mount it (for example, /media/windows)
[09:50] <serum> Someone msg me please if you know how to get a gamepad working/configured
[09:50] <eobanb_> and then hit Enable, or Browse, or whatever it is
[09:50] <Rug> ubuntu: Does the Microsoft Genuine Advantage Pop_up tell you that you don't have a valid license?
[09:51] <jdavila> ubuntu: you R talking about Windows????!!!!
[09:51] <_antix> Rug: does it matter? #ubuntu.
[09:51] <sammy_> then what?
[09:51] <sammy_> after I typed /media/windows
[09:51] <ubuntu> yes
[09:51] <eobanb_> sammy_, well then that partition will be mounted at that directory and you can browse the files there
[09:51] <Rug> _antix: I just want to see if he has a warez copy that he can't get to work ontop of all this mess
[09:51] <eobanb_> ubuntu, i am going to tell you one last time, this is NOT a windows support channel
[09:51] <jdavila> ubuntu: Wrong channel bro
[09:51] <ubuntu> i was having a problem with windows
[09:51] <NoUse> ubuntu type '/join ##windows'
[09:51] <_antix> Rug: good luck finding out anything substantial
[09:51] <eobanb_> Rug, it doesn't matter, we don't support windows here
[09:51] <ubuntu> i have linux
[09:51] <paradizelost> ubuntu: contact the manufacturer and have them step you through re-installing windows
[09:51] <ubuntu> i have no windows now
[09:51] <ubuntu> i used to
[09:52] <sammy_> I pressed okay but where do I go to browse it?
[09:52] <ubuntu> i thought that changing op system would help
[09:52] <ubuntu> but it did not
[09:52] <sammy_> media only shows cdrom and cdrom0
[09:52] <eobanb_> sammy_, whatever path that you typed in
[09:52] <paradizelost> ubuntu: how old is the computer
[09:52] <pozdiy> ubuntu, bad luck
[09:52] <_antix> running the livecd is not changing the op system
[09:52] <eobanb_> sammy_, did you actually make that directory?
[09:52] <ubuntu> not old
[09:52] <eobanb_> sammy_, look in Disks for that partition where it says "Status:"
[09:52] <eobanb_> does it say Accessible?
[09:52] <paradizelost> ubuntu: what year manufactured
[09:52] <NoUse> ubuntu, the LiveCD runs slow
[09:52] <sallybadger> hi, i'm trying to resize the hda1 partition (see http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgparted4ii.png ). I've booted into livecd and using gparted to free up all the partitions, but it still complains that the device is busy and it doesn't work. any ideas?
[09:52] <Drake`> harisund: you are referring to under Storage in Removable Drive and Media Preferences?
[09:52] <NoUse> ubuntu if you install to your harddrive it will be faster
[09:53] <ubuntu> 2000
[09:53] <sammy_> oh it didnt change
[09:53] <GTroy> no necessarily a ubuntu question, but I was builiding a new box, and now I can't fit my old ide ribbons in my old box....same cables
[09:53] <eobanb_> sammy_, make sure you're telling it to use a real directory
[09:53] <paradizelost> ubuntu: that's an old computer
[09:53] <daryl> !ie6
[09:53] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, daryl
[09:53] <GTroy> anyone helo?
[09:53] <ubuntu> ok ok
[09:53] <eobanb_> GTroy, wrong channel for that
[09:53] <sammy_> eobanb, yeah i dont think i did
[09:53] <harisund> Drake`: I think so .. I am not sure (sorry, I do not have Ubuntu access immediately) but yes, you can set options in there like whether you want CDs and removable USB thumb drives automatically mounted or not
[09:53] <paradizelost> ubuntu: probably has 128MB RAM rather slow for xp
[09:53] <ubuntu> nope 256
[09:53] <GTroy> eobanb_where would you go?
[09:53] <jdavila> ubuntu: you R using a very old computer
[09:53] <paradizelost> even 256 is small for xp sp2
[09:53] <sammy_> eobanb, do I create the /windows folder?
[09:53] <ubuntu> 32 bit
[09:53] <eobanb_> GTroy, i'm not sure, perhaps #hardware ? i have no idea
[09:53] <soundray> sallybadger: have you mounted any hard disk partitions?
[09:53] <sammy_> eobanb, first
[09:54] <salmiak> ubuntu, I'd recommend you to download and install Ubuntu Breezy Badger on your hard drive
[09:54] <pozdiy> jdavila, I'm using even older, 1997 Gateway, running Breezy with no problems
[09:54] <paradizelost> ubuntu: try getting a new computer or actually install ubuntu on the HDD
[09:54] <eobanb_> sammy_, sudo mkdir /media/windows
[09:54] <ubuntu> ok ok
[09:54] <GTroy> eobanb_ well people here usually help with hardware too
[09:54] <daryl> Trouble Installing Internet explorer, using ./ies4linux.  Error Returned: Cannot download flash
[09:54] <sammy_> eobanb, ohhhh, thank you :)
[09:54] <ubuntu> im out of here
[09:54] <ubuntu> bye than you
[09:54] <eobanb_> GTroy, yes, that's true, but only when it has to do with ubuntu
[09:54] <ubuntu> thank you*
[09:54] <jdavila> daryl: use firefox
[09:55] <daryl> jdavila: i do, but I also have to use ie6
[09:55] <sallybadger> soundray, no. only the swap partition has a padlock next to it
[09:55] <REAPER> Does anyone know about Ubuntu changing screen resolutions?  How to change it when it won't change in "screen resolution" under "System"?
[09:55] <Drake`> yes it is selected to mount removable drives when hot-plugged, mount removable media when inserted and browse removable media when inserted
[09:55] <salmiak> oh my gosh :/
[09:55] <sallybadger> soundray, would it be worth doing a sudo umount -a or something?
[09:55] <sammy_> eobanb, okay I typed in /media/windows now, do I press enable or ok or somethin?
[09:55] <paradizelost> REAPER: usuall that's a sign that the video drivers aren't right
[09:55] <eobanb_> sammy_, yes
[09:55] <paradizelost> well, that ubuntu really should be using a mac....
[09:55] <sammy_> eobanb, enable?
[09:55] <soundray> sallybadger: try sudo swapoff
[09:55] <serum> can anyone help with input drivers?
[09:55] <REAPER> But it worked before.
[09:55] <eobanb_> sammy_, yes!
[09:55] <sallybadger> soundray, tried that before and the system hung
[09:55] <paradizelost> REAPER: did you upgrade your kernel?
[09:56] <soundray> sallybadger: how much RAM do you have?
[09:56] <REAPER> how would i do that?
[09:56] <thug> did anyone tryedd to play games in ubuntu with vmware ?
[09:56] <sammy_> eobanb, okay I opened it now and it said inaccessable
[09:56] <paradizelost> REAPER: apt-get upgrade
[09:56] <paradizelost> thug: what type of games?
[09:56] <thug> shooter games ;)))
[09:56] <paradizelost> thug: vmware does not have support for 3d games
[09:56] <eobanb_> sammy_, are you sure you're looking at the right partition
[09:56] <thug> windows games
[09:56] <sallybadger> soundray, 256meg
[09:56] <Drake`> I am not sure what controls the gui from mount/umount a drive that would differ from the command line, have no issue with mounting from the command line just is annoying that can't mount from nautilus
[09:57] <salmiak> thug, Quake 3-like in speed? ;)
[09:57] <paradizelost> thug: it's made for office applications/ development testing and stuff.
[09:57] <apollo2011> I am trying to set up sshfs between my pc and my file server, and I installed sshfs and fuse from the Ubuntu repositories, and punched in the command, and it says: fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory. If I run it as root, it succeeds and mounts the remote fs so that only root has access...
[09:57] <soundray> sallybadger: it may be an issue of too little RAM. Get the gparted live CD instead: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:57] <sammy_> eobanb, yes, 71 gigs and the other on the windows hd is 3 gigs and 39megs
[09:57] <sammy_> eobanb, the other two
[09:57] <eobanb_> sammy_, okay......
[09:57] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> how would i edit pdfs under linux
[09:57] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> ?
[09:57] <sammy_> eobanb, ok..
[09:57] <Seveas> Jatt_kol_12_borh, unfortunately, not
[09:58] <thug> paradizelost so vmware doesnt have hardware acceleration right ?
[09:58] <soundray> sallybadger: the other thing you could try is to run the live CD in single user mode (no X). Then you can resize with parted, but it's less convenient.
[09:58] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> oh man
[09:58] <Seveas> unless you have luck getting acrobat to work with wine
[09:58] <paradizelost> thug: correct
[09:58] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> i can view the pdf in the document viewer
[09:58] <paradizelost> thug: and IIRC, they have no plans of doing it,  i think they had something set up in a beta version of teh workstation at one point
[09:58] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> but need to edit it and then save it to pdf
[09:59] <NoUse> Jatt_kol_12_borh openoffice can save as pdf but it can't open a pdf
[09:59] <sammy_> paradizelost, when i set an access path to my windows hd from linux and press enable how come when I try to open that folder after pressing ok it says inaccessable?
[09:59] <REAPER> Thanks Paradizelost
[09:59] <psyke83> hi, if anyone has an 82865G chipset, can they tell me the fps glxgears reports for you?
[09:59] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> so there is nothing available till now which can be used to edit pdfs
[09:59] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> :(
[09:59] <soundray> Jatt_kol_12_borh: try flpsed and pdftk
[09:59] <sallybadger> soundray, ok, i'll try the gparted livecd, thanks!
[10:00] <paradizelost> psyke83: FYI, intel disables opengl on their cards for the most part
[10:00] <soundray> Jatt_kol_12_borh: or import the PDF into kword, that works reasonably well.
[10:00] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> kword ?
[10:00] <soundray> Jatt_kol_12_borh: but there isn't an application comparable to Acrobat, afaik.
[10:00] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> is that the kde app
[10:00] <soundray> Jatt_kol_12_borh: yes
[10:00] <eobanb_> Jatt_kol_12_borh, yes
[10:00] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> thank you guys
[10:00] <soundray> Jatt_kol_12_borh: it runs okay in gnome
[10:00] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> be back shortly
[10:01] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> lemme give them a shot
[10:01] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> ;)
[10:01] <sethk> you can convert things from pdf to an editable format, and then back to pdf.  Not as good, but in most cases it gets the job done
[10:01] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> can you explain this approach a bit more
[10:02] <soundray> Jatt_kol_12_borh: it's essentially what I'm suggesting with kword.
[10:02] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> oh k
[10:06] <Drake`> that is strange that no one else has run into that problem I haven't seen it anywhere in the forums
[10:08] <swarmz> hi, has anyone experienced flickering when running a long, fast text output script using gnome terminal 1.12.0?
[10:08] <eobanb_> swarmz, did you expect something else?
[10:08] <eobanb_> swarmz, if you're outputting a lot of text it may look as if it's flickering.
[10:08] <paniq> hey
[10:08] <captine> hi all.  I am desperate for help.  I run 5.10 386 version on a 64bit turion notebook.  After being in X for a while, my mouse starts acting up i.e. clicking on icons does nothing.  I then reboot and all of a sudden my fan kicks into overdrive.  Does ubuntu result in laptop overheating for some reason?
[10:08] <paniq> it seems i'm unable to ping localhost with 6.06
[10:09] <eobanb_> welcome, paniq
[10:09] <paniq> how is that possible
[10:09] <swarmz> eobanb_: yes, the data has the same amount of rows and keywords in it, i expected to visually only see the values of the output changing
[10:09] <eobanb_> swarmz, i think i see what you mean.
[10:09] <warlock--> hey guys, look i lost my root password. I tried to goto grub and add "single" to the end of the line, I pressed b in the grub menu, then booted the kernel, then it asked for a root password for maintence?
[10:09] <eobanb_> swarmz, how does it look with other terminal programmes
[10:09] <captine> is there a way to check the turion temperature?
[10:09] <swarmz> as far as i can remember when using KDE's terminal it outputs smoothly
[10:09] <zcat[1] > warlock--: try adding "init=/bin/bash" instead of single.
[10:09] <warlock--> cheers
[10:10] <NoUse> !tell captine about sensors
[10:10] <eobanb_> !lmsensors
[10:10] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eobanb_
[10:10] <eobanb_> blah.
[10:10] <Industrial> Need help with django: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vILCYd94.html
[10:10] <eobanb_> !lm-sensors
[10:10] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eobanb_
[10:10] <eobanb_> whatever.  there's a package called something like lmsensors that should do the trick.
[10:10] <zcat[1] > you'll also need to "mount / -o remount,rw" before you can change anything and make it ro again before you quit!
[10:10] <anto9us> paniq, does localhost exist in your hosts file?
[10:10] <NoUse> eobanb_ I already sent him the link, its !sensors
[10:11] <captine> eobanb_ thanks.  will try d/l it
[10:11] <eobanb_> swarmz, well i guess you could try xterm or rxvt or some other terminal emulators and see how it looks on those
[10:11] <NoUse> captine there is a wiki page with a howto for lmsesnors
[10:11] <swarmz> yeah i might try that thanks
[10:11] <eobanb_> swarmz, if it looks fine on them i'd just write it off as a limitation of gnome-terminal.
[10:11] <Industrial> anyone?
[10:11] <selinium> Seveas: Hi there, I can't find sun-j2re in your mirrors (Dapper) can I install from Sun? :)
[10:11] <eobanb_> swarmz, or, you could try using a display library like ncurses
[10:12] <NoUse> !tell selinium about java
[10:12] <captine> NoUse: thnx will have to try tomorrow, as i dont have an internet connection when in ubuntu at home :<
 paniq, does localhost exist in your hosts file?
[10:13] <captine> as long as i dont fry my chip
[10:13] <paniq> anto9us: yes, its more that 127.0.0.1 doesnt react
[10:13] <rando1> evening all :)
[10:13] <selinium> NoUse: I have done that :) I was interested if there was a problem with the one from sun...
[10:13] <warlock--> zcat[1] 
[10:13] <warlock--> I got "Authentication token lock busy"
[10:13] <NoUse> selinium not particularly, but the method described on the wiki is better
[10:13] <anto9us> paniq, ifconfig shows network devices?
[10:13] <captine> NoUse: when asking Ubugtu questions, can one simply IM it?
[10:13] <paniq> anto9us: ah, now i see. lo wasnt up.
[10:13] <TheFuzzball> hello, on my gnome-panel I have put the applet "disc mounter", when it comes up it has 6 floppy drives, how do I stop it from doing that??
[10:14] <NoUse> captine no, its considered rude
[10:14] <zcat[1] > warlock--: ahhh.. not good.
[10:14] <LKRaider> !pastebin
[10:14] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:14] <warlock--> zcat[1]  ? :(
[10:14] <NoUse> selinium it notifies firefox so it can use the java plugin, inserts the java executable into the system path automatically
[10:14] <rando1> can someone please advise me how i can safely resize my partitons on a working ubuntu dapper install, without killing the existing install? i need to recover more space from my ntfs partitions
[10:14] <zcat[1] > warlock--: possibly rm /etc/passwd- if it exists (that's passwd with a minus after it)
[10:14] <warlock--> should i try that zcat[1]  ?
[10:14] <warlock--> after that ?
[10:15] <NoUse> rando1 dapper questions are in #ubuntu+1
[10:15] <selinium> NoUse: Oh, CHeers! :)
[10:15] <warlock--> Im running towards 2 computers, like 40feets away from the server pc
[10:15] <eobanb_> captine, you can private message ubotu just fine
[10:15] <paco> alguien entiende espaol??
[10:15] <zcat[1] > that's the lockfile that says you're already changing a password so it won't let you..
[10:15] <eobanb_> !es
[10:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:15] <Industrial> Need help with django: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vILCYd94.html
[10:15] <rando1> NoUse: ta, but i think the same principal applies to breezy and hoary?
[10:15] <warlock--> what should i do there zcat[1]  ?
[10:15] <jdavila> warlock--: try sudo -s -H to change to root
[10:15] <NoUse> rando1 are you installing from the live cd?
[10:15] <jdavila> and then passwd
[10:15] <zcat[1] > after that it should let you change pasword.
[10:16] <eobanb_> NoUse, how would it be 'rude' to private message a bot
[10:16] <zcat[1] > jdavila: he's in init=/bin/bash afaik
[10:16] <rando1> NoUse: i have had a working install for a long time and dont want to wreck it; i need more /home and / space and also a larger swap as i have installed more ram
[10:16] <TheFuzzball> hello, on my gnome-panel I have put the applet "disc mounter", when it comes up it has 6 floppy drives, how do I stop it from doing that??
[10:16] <NoUse> eobanb_ I didn't realize you were referring to the bot, to msg the bot is fine
[10:16] <eobanb_> NoUse, i wasnt, captine was
[10:16] <NoUse> rando1 boot off the live cd and run gparted, it can resize partitions
[10:17] <rando1> NoUse: safely, without destroying data?
[10:17] <paniq> and: pango font rendering is quite slow. how can i speed it up?
[10:17] <captine> eobanb_, NoUse thanx for clearing that up :)
[10:17] <warlock--> Ok going to try, brb.
[10:17] <NoUse> rando1 yes
[10:17] <TheFuzzball> hello, on my gnome-panel I have put the applet "disc mounter", when it comes up it has 6 floppy drives, how do I stop it from doing that??
[10:17] <eobanb_> rando1, i always recommend backing up your data before resizing partitions.  no excuse not to
[10:17] <NoUse> rando1 you should always backup before doing a resize
[10:17] <rando1> NoUse: thanks for that- much appriecated
[10:17] <NoUse> rando1 but it should be safe
[10:17] <anto9us> rando1, I'd recommed defragmenting your windows partitions and backup your really important stuff
[10:17] <dxdemetriou> I have a problem with transcode to compile from source "apt-get --build source transcode". I have to build it because it can't use the "/usr/lib/transcode/import_ffmpeg.so"
[10:18] <zcat[1] > TheFuzzball: that's one floppy drive with six possible formats.. what's the problem with it?
[10:18] <rando1> eobanb, NoUse: i resized my ntfs using the installer (gparted i assume?) previosuly and it worked fine, but yes i will backup esential data :)
[10:18] <eobanb_> rando1, good to hear it.
[10:18] <TheFuzzball> zcat[1] : well firstly I am using a laptop that has no floppy drive
[10:18] <rando1> cheers guys- will go away and start work :)
[10:18] <warlock--> zcat[1] 
[10:18] <zcat[1] > ahh.. curious
[10:18] <jdavila> it's possible to use dapper packages to update breezy packages without dist upgrading?
[10:18] <warlock--> when i tried rm /etc/passwd- it answered with "cannot remove the file, read-only"
[10:19] <zcat[1] > warlock--: yeah? worked?
[10:19] <kbrooks> jdavila: no.
[10:19] <warlock--> or something like that
[10:19] <eobanb_> TheFuzzball, the laptop mainboard probably still has a floppy controller chip, that's all
[10:19] <kbrooks> jdavila: fully update to dapper
[10:19] <eobanb_> TheFuzzball, so the utility can't tell the difference.
[10:19] <jdavila> kbrooks: why?
[10:19] <simonpca> plop
[10:19] <kbrooks> jdavila: there is no "in between"
[10:19] <zcat[1] > warlock--: you did remount root (mount / -o remount,rw) ?
[10:19] <warlock--> no, shuold i do that when im in bin/bash
[10:19] <warlock--> ?
[10:19] <eobanb_> TheFuzzball, either that or it just shows up regardless of whether you have one or not and that's just how the utility works.
[10:19] <kbrooks> jdavila: because you WILL break breezy
[10:19] <zcat[1] > you have to.. it's mounted readonly by default
[10:19] <warlock--> ok, i will try, one sec
[10:19] <eobanb_> jdavila, dapper packages are for dapper, not breezy.
[10:20] <dxdemetriou> What can I do to use the apt-get --build source in breezy?
[10:20] <Nihil_85> no one here from the denmark?
[10:20] <eobanb_> jdavila, if you want to use dapper packages, simply dist-upgrade
[10:20] <kbrooks> jdavila: you MAY try it, but i GAURANTEE YOU WILL break it
[10:20] <TheFuzzball> eobanb: why would it show 6 floppy drives?
[10:20] <jdavila> kbrooks: I've the ubuntu-looks theme on breezy and it's working right
[10:20] <kbrooks> GUARANTEE*
[10:20] <kbrooks> jdavila: so?
[10:20] <eobanb_> TheFuzzball, truth be told, i have no idea, but since you dont have a floppy drive at all i wouldnt worry about it.
[10:20] <jdavila> kbrooks: it's for dapper
[10:21] <kbrooks> jdavila: so?
[10:21] <warlock--> zcat[1] , thansk for the help, it worked ;)
[10:21] <warlock--> and btw, i think the one who hacked my server have installed bunch of crap onit
[10:21] <warlock--> any way i can check that?
[10:21] <jdavila> kbrooks: you said it will break breezy
[10:21] <zcat[1] > kbrooks: I'm dist-upgrading to dapper right now.. (if I fall off that's why :) 1425 packages, 1100M of downloads, it took all night and now I think it's going to take most of the morning to install them too..
[10:21] <eobanb_> jdavila, that's just a theme, it's not specific to any branch of ubuntu
[10:21] <TheFuzzball> eobanb: k
[10:21] <kbrooks> jdavila: Um, i mean packages like ...
[10:21] <kbrooks> jdavila: xchat 2.6.1
[10:21] <kbrooks> or even...
[10:22] <eobanb_> jdavila, i could put a desktop picture on my dapper install that says 'slackware' but that wouldnt make it slackware or break anything either
[10:22] <kbrooks> gedit 2.14.1
[10:22] <zcat[1] > warlock--: mount / -o remount,ro   before you log off or reboot too, ok?
[10:22] <jdavila> i'm interested on the kernell packages
[10:22] <the_mr_bong_show> hey
[10:22] <the_mr_bong_show> hey _jason
[10:22] <NoUse> jdavila you can compile a custom kernel if you really want to upgrade
[10:22] <Kismet> Hi All! Someone know dpkg-divert ?
[10:22] <jdavila> :-ss
[10:22] <kbrooks> Kismet: ask.
[10:22] <mangka> anyone could tell me why vncserver works fine in gnome, but when I log out and try fluxbox it doesent?
[10:22] <eobanb_> jdavila, if you want a dapper kernel, then i would dist-upgrade.  the kernel is a far cry from a window theme
[10:23] <eobanb_> !tell Kismet about anyone
[10:23] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one tell me how i can move stuff with a little lock thing
[10:23] <kbrooks> the_mr_bong_show: check the permissions
[10:23] <Kismet> I'm trying to purge xorg-driver-fglrx but the postremove script die on dpkg-divert
[10:23] <jdavila> eobanb_: I tryed dist-upgrade before and broke my x-sever
[10:23] <zcat[1] > the_mr_bong_show: right-click and change properties, make it writeable.. if you own it. If you don't own it you have to get the owner to grant permissions
[10:23] <kbrooks> jdavila: and?
[10:23] <eobanb_> jdavila, well, dapper is still in development.
[10:24] <gnomefreak> the_mr_bong_show: right click it change the permissions to write (it should be first box in middle colum
[10:24] <rando1> NoUse: hi again, sorry to bother you- is there any reason why i cant use gparted from within X on my install, rather than a live cd?
[10:24] <the_mr_bong_show> thanks all
[10:24] <rando1> NoUse: its only that ive run out of cd's!
[10:24] <paradizelost> rando1: did you apt-get install gparted?
[10:24] <jdavila> eobanb_: then i made a clean installation and worked like a charm
[10:24] <the_mr_bong_show> it worked
[10:24] <NoUse> rando1 are you installing from the live cd?
[10:24] <eobanb_> rando1, of course if you are booted from the drive you are trying to partition that will not work
[10:24] <rando1> NoUse: no, i am already installed
[10:24] <zcat[1] > rando1: resizing mounted filesystems is 'unsafe' :)
[10:24] <kbrooks> NoUse: he says no
[10:25] <zcat[1] > 'unsafe' meaning 'will totally screw your filesystem'
[10:25] <rando1> eobanb: in that i cannot resize the booted partition, or the drive as a whole?
[10:25] <NoUse> rando1 you can't resize a partition that is mounted
[10:25] <jdavila> why i can't set rw permissions on a ntfs partition???
[10:25] <eobanb_> rando1, however dangerous you might think live-resizing is, live-resizing file systems currently in use is basically insane
[10:25] <rando1> NoUse: i thought as much :) thanks for clarifying
[10:25] <NoUse> rando1 so if you can unmount the partition you want to resie, then its fine
[10:25] <Kismet> in particular the command that fail is the following: dpkg-divert --remove --package xorg-driver-fglrx --divert /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2  --rename /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[10:25] <rando1> eobanb: i take the hint :P
[10:25] <NoUse> jdavila ntfs write isn't supported
[10:25] <eobanb_> jdavila, because microsoft has decided they dont want to release the specifications for ntfs, so to be safe, breezy can only read from ntfs, not write.
[10:25] <the_mr_bong_show> is there a third party yahoo chat program for ubuntu
[10:25] <eobanb_> jdavila, if you want r/w for ntfs, then upgrade to dapper
[10:25] <sammy_> paradizelost, can you help me with the shared thingagain?
[10:26] <eobanb_> the_mr_bong_show, yes, try Gaim.
[10:26] <paradizelost> sammy_:
[10:26] <sammy_> paradizelost, if you wouldnt mind
[10:26] <paradizelost> sammy_: k
[10:26] <eobanb_> the_mr_bong_show, it comes installed with ubuntu
[10:26] <paradizelost> sammy_: where r u stuck?
[10:26] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i get in to the room with game
[10:26] <zcat[1] > jdavila: you can mount ntfs read/write, but it will instantly trash any file you try to write too, and probably destroy any directory you try to create or delete a file in.
[10:26] <sammy_> paradizelost, well it says the windows thing is inaccessable
[10:26] <sammy_> paradizelost, and idk why or what to do
[10:26] <Kismet> kbrooks, have you seen my problem? any tips?
[10:26] <eobanb_> the_mr_bong_show, can you rephrase your question please
[10:26] <r0xoR> anyone know why rhythmbox is giving me an end of stream error?
[10:26] <paradizelost> sammy_: look at /etc/fstab
[10:26] <r0xoR> i'm using a custom compiled opensound module
[10:26] <paradizelost> does it say anything about an NTFS drive?
[10:26] <jdavila> eobanb_: and why it's possible rw ntfs partitions on dapper???
[10:26] <eobanb_> r0xoR, well that could have something to do with it
[10:26] <r0xoR> does rhythmbox work through esd? alsa?
[10:27] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i get the room lits with gaim
[10:27] <djrandom> eobanb: ok, one last question- with the lack of cd-r's, can i make a bootable usb stick from the gparted live cd?
[10:27] <sammy_> paradizelost, i dont see it
[10:27] <zcat[1] > jdavila: you could look up 'captive' which is a wrapper that will let you access ntfs using windows's native drivers.. it will let your write ntfs but it's a bit tricky to set up.
[10:27] <eobanb_> jdavila, because dapper is farther along in development and implements more advanced changes to that part of the kernel
[10:27] <r0xoR> eobanb_, great so how would i find out if it does and then how would i fix it?
[10:27] <eobanb_> djrandom, if your motherboard can boot from USB, then sure
[10:27] <NoUse> jdavila I don't think ntfs write support is in dapper
[10:27] <paradizelost> sammy_: k.  open a terminal    and type in sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[10:27] <sammy_> paradizelost, oh wait i see it, its opened
[10:27] <paradizelost> k
[10:27] <r0xoR> does rhythmbox work through alsa?
[10:27] <paradizelost> skip that last one then
[10:27] <djrandom> eobanb: it can, but how would i make the iso boot from the usb stick?
[10:28] <paradizelost> sammy_: what /dev/hd# does it say it is?
[10:28] <eobanb_> djrandom, i guess you'd direct-write it to the usb flash drive
[10:28] <jdavila> eobanb_: but if we don't know de spec of ntfs it's not possible to implement something for it
[10:28] <eobanb_> djrandom, i've never really tried it before
[10:28] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i get the room lits with gaim
[10:28] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: you add the irc account
[10:28] <sammy_> paradizelost, looks like b
[10:28] <eobanb_> jdavila, well we're slowly figuring it out, okay?
[10:28] <paradizelost> then you click add chat
[10:28] <djrandom> eobanb: i have done it in the distant past, but cant remember how- ill do some more reading up :) thanks again
[10:28] <paradizelost> then you type in #ubuntu
[10:28] <paradizelost> sammy_: so /dev/hdb1?
[10:28] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i do that paradizelost
[10:29] <r0xoR> xmms has an option to select the output plugin... what about rhythmbox?
[10:29] <NoUse> jdavila you can't write to ntfs in dapper
[10:29] <eobanb_> jdavila, i'm not going to sit here and argue with you about the development structure of ubuntu.  take it to -offtopic if you want
[10:29] <sammy_> paradizelost, well it has different things
[10:29] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: click buddies
[10:29] <zcat[1] > jdavila: you could look up 'captive' which is a wrapper that will let you access ntfs using windows's native drivers.. it will let your write ntfs but it's a bit tricky to set up.
[10:29] <paradizelost> sammy_: specifically the one that has the ntfs after it
[10:29] <sammy_> paradizelost, hba is my windows hd though and i dont see hda on here
[10:29] <sammy_> paradizelost, none have ntfs
[10:29] <paradizelost> it would be hda hdb hdc
[10:29] <paradizelost> the one you said had NTFS on it in /etc/fstab
[10:30] <sevamanga> channel ubuntu-es ???????????
[10:30] <sammy_> yeah it doesnt say any
[10:30] <paradizelost> !es
[10:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:30] <eobanb_> a, b, c, refer to different busses, not different devices on the same bus.
[10:30] <sammy_> have ntfs
[10:30] <sammy_> paradizelost, ext3 though is hdb3
[10:30] <sammy_> paradizelost, which i think was a main one, cause i couldnt use as ntfs
[10:30] <paradizelost> sammy_: what EXACTLY does it say at the far left of the one that has NTFS on it
[10:30] <sammy_> paradizelost, NONE have NTFS on it
[10:31] <GTroy> I can't connnect to the internet via any browser or irc, but I can use apt-get any ideas?
[10:31] <patrick_king> !root
[10:31] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:31] <the_mr_bong_show> can i play games like grand theft auto vice city on ubuntu
[10:31] <zcat[1] > GTroy: can you ping by IP address?
[10:31] <paradizelost> GTroy: check your proxy servers
[10:31] <eobanb_> !tell the_mr_bong_show about wine
[10:31] <sammy_> paradizelost,  only ext3, swap, and "udf,iso9660 user,noauto"
[10:31] <GTroy> I would if I  knew any ip numered address
[10:31] <paradizelost> sammy_: if you cfdisk /dev/hdb what does it list?
[10:32] <GTroy> proxy server ok
[10:32] <zcat[1] > GTroy: check permissions on /etc/resolv.conf
[10:32] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: possibly using cedega
[10:32] <sammy_> paradizelost,  oh there is an ntfs one there
[10:32] <zcat[1] > I'm guessing (because I've seen it before) that only root is able to resolve DNS
[10:32] <sammy_> paradizelost, as hda2
[10:32] <paradizelost> k.  is it /dev/hdb1?
[10:32] <paradizelost> k.
[10:32] <paradizelost> type the following
[10:32] <sammy_> okay
[10:32] <eobanb_> zcat[1] , good thinking
[10:32] <paradizelost> mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows -t ntfs
[10:32] <paradizelost> hey zcat[1] 
[10:33] <zcat[1] > paradizelost: ya?
[10:33] <zcat[1] > make it quick I have to go soon :)
[10:33] <paradizelost> just noticed that you were here....
[10:33] <sammy_> paradizelost, "mount: only root can do that"
[10:33] <paradizelost> GTroy: check the permissions on your /etc/fstab
[10:33] <paradizelost> sammy_: add sudo to the beginng of that
[10:33] <GTroy> ok paradizelost
[10:33] <sammy_> oh ok
[10:33] <zcat[1] > paradizelost: sudo !!
[10:34] <GTroy> isn't fstab for mounting?
[10:34] <sammy_> paradizelost, it says already mounted
[10:34] <paradizelost> zcat[1] : yah, i forget thet people don't always remember that sudo is necessary
[10:34] <zcat[1] > sammy_: df and see where it's already mounted
[10:34] <paradizelost> sammy_: k.  then the following
[10:34] <Ayabara> hey guys. is it possible to let ubuntu generate a new /etc/fstab for me automatically?
[10:34] <Industrial> I seem to have installed postgresql 7.4 and 8.0. i want to remove 7.4. how do i get a list of installed software (matching a phrase)
[10:35] <GTroy> zcat[1]  problem solved, you had it right
[10:35] <Industrial> with apt-get
[10:35] <GTroy> thanks
[10:35] <zcat[1] > sigh; apt-get dist-upgrade is going to ask permission to update every config file on the box, isn't it..
[10:35] <sammy_> paradizelost, df?
[10:35] <paradizelost> sudo umount /media/windows && sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows -t ntfs
[10:35] <r0xoR> Industrial, isn't 8.0 still beta?
[10:35] <NoUse> Industrial dpkg -l | grep -i postgres
[10:35] <harisund> zcat[1]  yes, that was an annoyance that I had too.
[10:35] <Industrial> r0xoR: i dont know.... but i dont need 2..
[10:35] <sammy_> paradizelost, whats df?
[10:35] <zcat[1] > oh well.. there's only 1425 packages and they can't all update a config file..
[10:36] <harisund> zcat[1]  I believe there is a way to avoid that, but I think it involved changing some dpkg settings so I didn't bothe.r
[10:36] <andreasc89> What do I write in the terminal to download KDE to Ubuntu?
[10:36] <paradizelost> xterm man df
[10:36] <r0xoR> Industrial, if you don't know which one you need then stick with 7.4
[10:36] <zcat[1] > df lists all your mounted filesystems
[10:36] <NoUse> andreasc89 sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[10:36] <andreasc89> thanks
[10:36] <sammy_> paradizelost, umm lol sry i dont understand
[10:36] <sammy_> paradizelost,  :-\
[10:36] <zcat[1] > apt-get -y --force-yes   would probably do it. It'd probably also break things.
[10:37] <Industrial> r0xoR: ok
[10:37] <paradizelost> Show information about the file system on which each FILE resides,
[10:37] <paradizelost> or all file systems by default.
[10:37] <Industrial> NoUse: thanks, 'discovered' dpkg... :)
[10:37] <Ayabara> I have reformatted a partition from ntfs to ext2. can I auto-update my /etc/fstab?
[10:37] <sammy_> paradizelost, so what do i type in
[10:37] <harisund> zcat[1]  um I doubt that woudl work. This is not an apt-get issue. It's a package-configuration issue.
[10:37] <zcat[1] > Ayabara: did you also fdisk or gparted and change the partition label ?
[10:37] <sammy_> paradizelost, wait just type df?
[10:38] <sammy_> paradizelost, that comes up with stuff
[10:38] <zcat[1] > sammy_: open a terminal and type df
[10:38] <paradizelost> sammy_: just do      sudo umount /media/windows && sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows -t ntfs      on a terminal
[10:38] <Ayabara> zcat[1] : no. all I have done now is reformat it in disk manager in ubuntu
[10:38] <zcat[1] > Ayabara: ok.. hopefully disk manager will have changed the partition table too..
[10:38] <sammy_> paradizelost,  okay did that
[10:39] <paradizelost> sammy_: now cd to /media/windows
[10:39] <Ayabara> zcat[1] : but my /etc/fstab is not changed yet
[10:39] <sammy_> paradizelost, cd?
[10:39] <paradizelost> change directory
[10:39] <paradizelost> or browse to it
[10:39] <paradizelost> depending on if your using a terminal or nautilus
[10:39] <zcat[1] > Ayabara: open a terminal, sudo nano /etc/fstab and change ntfs to ext2 .. should be easy enough.
[10:39] <Ayabara> it says
[10:39] <sammy_> wait, so..
[10:39] <Ayabara> oops, sorry
[10:40] <sammy_> paradizelost, howd i change directory
[10:40] <sammy_> paradizelost, lol =\ sorry for bein such a newbie
[10:40] <paradizelost> on a terminal or in nautilus?
[10:40] <sammy_> terminal
[10:40] <Ayabara> but what options should I use for ext2?
[10:40] <paradizelost> cd /media/windows
[10:40] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one give those links for wine agian
[10:40] <zcat[1] > 'default'
[10:40] <sammy_> permission denied?
[10:40] <NoUse> !tell the_mr_bong_show about wine
[10:40] <paradizelost> k sammy, sudo su -
[10:41] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[10:41] <Ayabara> ok, what about the "errors=remount-ro " that is behind my root partition?
[10:41] <Ayabara> should I add that too?
[10:41] <zcat[1] > Ayabara: no, that's only for /
[10:41] <Ayabara> zcat[1] : ok. thanks a lot
[10:41] <sammy_> paradizelost,  type sudo su -?
[10:41] <paradizelost> yep
[10:42] <sammy_> ok it says root@ubuntu:~# now
[10:42] <sammy_> then cursor
[10:42] <zcat[1] > actually I guess you could use that too.. any errors fsck should fix when the system boots anyhow..
[10:42] <paradizelost> k.  now cd /media/windows
[10:42] <sammy_> ok
[10:42] <Nick{Away}> !usb
[10:42] <ubotu> Nick{Away}: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:42] <sammy_> then?
[10:42] <zcat[1] > wifey calls, time to go shopping.. byw all
[10:42] <paradizelost> ls -al
[10:43] <Industrial> r0xoR: can i ask you some more about pgsql? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/installation.html#INSTALL-SHORT shows adding a user for postgresql, how is this done with ubuntu? (because its already installed and running, i'm curious.)
[10:43] <r0xoR> Industrial, you can, but you'd be better off asking in #postgresql
[10:43] <sammy_> paradizelost, okay now i got the windows stuff showin
[10:43] <sammy_> paradizelost, now whatd i do
[10:43] <paradizelost> sammy_: so now we just need to change the permissions of the /media/windows directory
[10:43] <sammy_> paradizelost, so should I be able to browse it now?
[10:43] <bimberi> Industrial: 'sudo su - postgres' and work from there
[10:43] <Industrial> r0xoR: but they dont know how ubuntu installs postgresql :P
[10:44] <paradizelost> sammy_: no, the only reason you can get to it right now is because you are now root
[10:44] <paradizelost> type the following
[10:44] <sammy_> ok
[10:44] <reon> Which is faster/better VM, Xen, OpenVX or QEMU ? XEN website reports it's faster than VMWare ?
[10:45] <Xenguy> reon: xen AFAIK (but doesn't do d0ze yet)
[10:45] <Industrial> bimberi: theres no postgresql account, so it runs as something else.. guess ill just leave it run ;)
[10:45] <Xenguy> reon: but get a 2nd opinion :-)
[10:45] <Ayabara> is there a good reason to use ext3 instead of ext2?
[10:45] <r0xoR> Industrial, the instructions for ubuntu are: Applications Menu->System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[10:45] <reon> Xenguy, I need to do winXP
[10:46] <r0xoR> Industrial, then get to postgresql, make sure postgresql version 7.4 is installed and that version 8.0 is not... simple
[10:46] <Ayabara> will journaling do me good? it's safer to work with ext2 from windows than ext3 I think
[10:46] <Xenguy> Ayabara: avoids having to fsck on occasion, but AFAIK ext3 can't recover deleted files without a backup either
[10:46] <paradizelost> cd .. && umount /media/windows && chmod 777 /media/windows && mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows -t ntfs -o ro,umask=000
[10:46] <Xenguy> reon: double-check but I don't believe that Xen does d0ze yet
[10:47] <NoUse> Ayabara ext3 is just ext2 with journaling, you can mount ext3 partitions as ext2
[10:47] <sammy_> okay typed
[10:47] <Industrial> r0xoR: i'd like to know whats going on when it is installed on ubuntu, because its interesting.. it swas just a little question.. it doesnt matter. And i prefer apt-get over synaptic i think..
[10:47] <Industrial> s/swas/was/
[10:47] <sammy_> paradizelost, now it says root@ubuntu:/media# "cursor"
[10:47] <bimberi> Industrial: postgres (no 'ql') - on my 8.0 install here
[10:48] <r0xoR> Industrial, you'd need to check the package details or the package itself to find that out
[10:48] <paradizelost> k.
[10:49] <sammy_> what now?
[10:49] <paradizelost> now type    exit
[10:49] <paradizelost> then cd to /media/windows
[10:49] <sammy_> okay
[10:49] <sammy_> okay
[10:49] <reon> Xenguy, doesn't look like it. Only via hardware virtualization...
[10:49] <paradizelost> now ls -al
[10:50] <sammy_> okay
[10:50] <Xanadu> hey guys
[10:50] <paradizelost> sammy_: you see the stuff there now?
[10:50] <reon> Xenguy, do you know the diffs between VMServer & VMPLayer ? they are both free i think ?
[10:50] <sammy_> paradizelost,  yes
[10:50] <Xanadu> anyone had any problems with apt-cacher running multiple updates at same time?
[10:51] <paradizelost> reon: vmware server runs in the background, don't need the window running for the machine to be up, also you can make new machines in server, player only plays existing machines
[10:51] <Drake`> this is madening to not be able to find out why mount works from the command line but why I get a "Can't execute pmount" from nautilus when I just to mount from the gui
[10:51] <paradizelost> sammy_: k.  now add the following line you your /etc/fstab at the end
[10:52] <sammy_> paradizelost, huh
[10:52] <paradizelost> open /etc/fstab as root
[10:52] <reon> paradizelost, so the server version is better then ? I suppose you can still bring a window up ?
[10:52] <paradizelost> and add the following to the end of the file
[10:52] <paradizelost> reon: yes.
[10:52] <reon> paradizelost, have you used the server version on ubuntu ?
[10:53] <Drake`> wmware has a beta server version that is free
[10:53] <Ayabara> Xenguy, NoUse: so it is not unsafe to mount an ext3 as ext2 from windows? won't be more likely to lose data that way?
[10:53] <Xanadu> anyone else using apt-cacher?
[10:53] <paradizelost>  /dev/hda2        /media/windows       ntfs      user,umask=000       0   0
[10:53] <paradizelost> reon: yes, i use vmware server on ubuntu
[10:53] <NoUse> Ayabara no you'll just not have journalling enabled
[10:53] <paradizelost> breezy and dapper
[10:53] <reon> paradizelost, is the install easy ?
[10:53] <sammy_> paradizelost, open the file /etc/fstab?
[10:53] <Ayabara> NoUse: ok, then I'm happy :-)
[10:53] <paradizelost> you need to have the linux-headers, build-essential, and xinetd installed
[10:54] <paradizelost> ^^ reon
[10:54] <paradizelost> sammy_: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:54] <haakonn> i'm a little tired of gam_server always sucking up my cpu time
[10:54] <paradizelost> reon: yes the install is rather easy
[10:54] <paradizelost> Drake`: the vmware server will remain free once it's out of beta
[10:54] <reon> paradizelost, thx, i'm gonna download it now.
[10:55] <sammy_> paradizelost, okay then add /dev/hda2        /media/windows       ntfs      user,umask=000 ?
[10:55] <poningru> !upgrade
[10:55] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[10:55] <paradizelost> yep
[10:55] <poenaru> saaf
[10:55] <nseltzer> how do I add a device to be used?
[10:55] <sammy_> paradizelost, okay then what
[10:55] <paradizelost> sammy_: that just tells it to mount the drive on boot.
[10:55] <nseltzer> i have the driver installed using ndiswrapper
[10:55] <roedel> join #comagena
[10:55] <sammy_> paradizelost,  oh okay
[10:55] <paradizelost> now you can browse to /media/windows in the file system browser of your choice
[10:56] <paradizelost> you save that and your good to go
[10:56] <sammy_> wow!
[10:56] <sammy_> amazing
[10:56] <dj-smilee> how does one go about blacklisting a driver?
[10:56] <sammy_> Thank you :)
[10:56] <paradizelost> np
[10:57] <NoUse> dj-smilee add the line 'blacklist modulename' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist I believe
[10:57] <dj-smilee> can it be done in a busy box shell?
[10:57] <sammy_> paradizelost, Now is there any way I can play mp3s on my windows hd on linux?
[10:57] <paradizelost> dj-smilee: you use an editor
[10:57] <dj-smilee> but my system wont boot
[10:57] <dj-smilee> so i cant use one
[10:57] <dj-smilee> i could install
[10:57] <dj-smilee> then boot into a live so
[10:57] <dj-smilee> os*
[10:57] <paradizelost> sammy_: you can use either xmms or amarok or the sound program of your choice
[10:57] <dj-smilee> and blacklist the file
[10:57] <paradizelost> dj-smilee: use the rescue system on the install cd
[10:58] <paradizelost> or you do the livecd method.  yes
[10:58] <sammy_> paradizelost, but I can play mp3s off my windows hard drive on linux, right?
[10:58] <nseltzer> Does anyone have any information that I can use on using a device that i have installed all of the drivers for?
[10:58] <dj-smilee> i've got the dvd
[10:58] <dj-smilee> cool cheers
[10:58] <Xanadu> nseltzer: what device?
[10:58] <Drake`> I am assuming that /etc/pmount.allow has to have each user who you want to be able to mount cdrom from nautilus? Is pmount only used in nautilus?
[10:58] <nseltzer> Xanadu, My wireless card
[10:59] <Xanadu> nseltzer have you installed the drivers yet?
[10:59] <OneTruth> i am installing a Perl web application called Twiki, where should i install it?
[10:59] <nseltzer> Xanadu, I have installed all relevent drivers and packages as far as I know
[10:59] <Xanadu> nseltzer what type of card is it?
[10:59] <nseltzer> Xanadu, Intel 3942abg
[10:59] <pitti> Drake`: no, /etc/pmount.allow contains additional devices normal users shold be allowed to mount
[10:59] <Xanadu> nseltzer should work out the box - shouldn't need drivers
[10:59] <pitti> Drake`: you do not want to change it unless you know very well what you are doing
[10:59] <OneTruth> im just looking  for best practices on where to intall a perl web application
[11:00] <paradizelost> OneTruth: /path/to/webroot/cgi-bin
[11:00] <Xanadu> nseltzer you tried bringing it up? Probably sudo ifconfig ath0 or sudo ifconfig eth1
[11:00] <Dingo> can I install ubuntu on an intel based Mac-mini?
[11:00] <paradizelost> !macmini
[11:00] <ubotu> paradizelost: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:00] <Xanadu> nseltzer then check ifconfig to see if it's up
[11:00] <paradizelost> !mac
[11:00] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[11:00] <nseltzer> Xanadu, Ok, let me look.
[11:00] <Drake`> pitti: my problem is that I can mount cdroms from the command line but get an error "Can't execute pmount" when I try to mount the same cdrom from nautilus
[11:00] <OneTruth> paradizelost: ok so i should just put it in there, i've seen the installation done where the scripts are sym linked in the cgi-bin
[11:01] <pitti> Drake`: you are not in the 'plugdev' group then (the default user is)
[11:01] <nseltzer> Xanadu, Error fetching interface information: Device not found.
[11:01] <Xanadu> nseltzer for which interface?
[11:01] <paradizelost> Drake`: have you used automatix?
[11:01] <paradizelost> :D
[11:01] <nseltzer> Xanadu, Both suggested.
[11:02] <Xanadu> nseltzer you have an ethernet port?
[11:02] <pitti> Drake`: this is also on my list of bugs: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pmount/+bug/33232
[11:02] <nseltzer> Xanadu, I only have eth0 and lo running in ifocnfig
[11:02] <poningru> !broadcom
[11:02] <ubotu> broadcom is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[11:02] <Xanadu> hmm
[11:02] <OneTruth> paradizelost: someone said put it into /usr/local
[11:03] <Xanadu> nseltzer try "dmesg | grep 3942" and see if the drivers are getting loaded on boot
[11:03] <Drake`> pitti: ok that is helpful...why would nothing be in the pmount.allow file?
[11:03] <paradizelost> OneTruth: i don't do a lot of perl for web, so someone else may be more qualified.  possibly check #perl
[11:03] <OneTruth> paradizelost: yeah me neither, thanks though
[11:03] <Dingo> can I install ubuntu on an intel based Mac-mini?
[11:03] <nseltzer> I get no output
[11:03] <nseltzer> Xanadu, I get no output
[11:03] <eobanb_> Dingo, yes, using Boot Camp
[11:04] <reon> paradizelost, is there a guide for vmware server install somewhere ?
[11:04] <Xanadu> try "dmesg | grep -i intel
[11:04] <gnomefreak> Dingo: i dont see why not
[11:04] <eobanb_> gnomefreak, because intel macs use EFI
[11:04] <paradizelost> reon,  i usually do the following
[11:04] <Dingo> eobanb_: I mean natively!
[11:04] <eobanb_> Dingo, yes, using boot camp.
[11:04] <gnomefreak> eobanb_: you can still install it and it should work
[11:04] <Xanadu> nseltzer: try "dmesg | grep -i intel"
[11:04] <eobanb_> gnomefreak, yes, i KNOW
[11:04] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[11:04] <Dingo> gnomefreak: well, we never know... I want to buy a mac but I want to run linux!
[11:04] <mattikoo> Hello. Game gl-117 don't work in Ubuntu Breezy. It gives error
[11:04] <mattikoo> open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory
[11:04] <mattikoo> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[11:05] <nseltzer> Xanadu, [4294680.450000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: Intel Corporation I/O Controller Hub UHCI USB #4
[11:05] <Dingo> eobanb_: isn't bootcamp an emulation software?
[11:05] <eobanb_> Dingo, no.
[11:05] <pitti> Drake`: man pmount :)  pmount already allows users to mount all removable devices
[11:05] <nseltzer> Xanadu, I don't see the wireless devic
[11:05] <delmar> Following the guide on the wiki found here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29    I don't see anything regarding "windows networking".  Im running ubuntu 5.10.   Is this a feature of a later version of ubuntu or is my distro broke and not doing what it should?
[11:05] <Dingo> eobanb_: oh...then it's ok :D
[11:05] <Xanadu> nseltzer is it on? like are any lights on? (if it has lights)
[11:05] <paradizelost> mkdir /install && cp /path/to/tar.gz /install && cd /install && tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz && cd vmware-server-install && apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname-r) xinetd && ./vmware-install.pl
[11:05] <reon> paradizelost, ?
[11:05] <NoUse> delmar samba is the program that talks to Windows PCs
[11:05] <paradizelost> !vmware
[11:05] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[11:06] <nseltzer> Xanadu, The light is not on, and I have the radio on
[11:06] <delmar> NoUse, i'm well aware of that.  Im just checking documentation for Ubuntu as I go, and building my own eval.
[11:06] <paradizelost> reon: is there anything about that that you dont' understand?
[11:06] <Kingdong> !Need help with ati 9550 card! Please/
[11:06] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kingdong
[11:06] <eobanb_> Dingo, boot camp is an integrated package consisting of a live partitioner, an IA-32 BIOS module for EFI that includes a graphical bootloader, and some windows drivers for mac hardware.
[11:06] <reon> paradizelost, about what ?
[11:07] <eobanb_> Dingo, but it can be used nearly as easily to run linux.
[11:07] <delmar> NoUse, if you have anything to comment regarding the actual content of my question .. please feel free.
[11:07] <sammy_> does anyone know how I can open or play files on my windows hard drive from linux?
[11:07] <paradizelost> mkdir /install && cp /path/to/tar.gz /install && cd /install && tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz && cd vmware-server-install && apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname-r) xinetd && ./vmware-install.pl
[11:07] <Kingdong> ahhh! i already been thru the forurms!
[11:07] <eobanb_> sammy_, you're STILL having problems with that?
[11:07] <Xanadu> nseltzer you sure that's the name of the card?
[11:07] <eobanb_> sammy_, were you able to mount your ntfs partition
[11:07] <sammy_> eobanb, well I can browse now I just can't play
[11:07] <eobanb_> sammy_, why not
[11:07] <paradizelost> sammy_: you double-click the icon on your desktop that says Windows
[11:07] <NoUse> delmar i must not understand your question
[11:08] <paradizelost> find the files you neee
[11:08] <paradizelost> need
[11:08] <Kingdong> anyone help me? with graphics card?
[11:08] <Xanadu> nseltzer I get no hits for that name on google
[11:08] <sammy_> eobanb, yeah I got that
[11:08] <sammy_> eobanb, now I wanna play mp3s off that hard drive on linux
[11:08] <paradizelost> !tell Kingdong about ati
[11:08] <eobanb_> !tell Kingdong about anyone
[11:08] <nseltzer> Xanadu, I'll verify
[11:08] <Rug> My Printing-Admin is missing.  what do I apt-get install to get it back?
[11:08] <Dingo> eobanb_: but the linux software.. there will be no restrictions right?
[11:08] <Drake`> pitti: I addes myself to plugdev and still unable to mount and gives the same "Can't execute pmount"
[11:08] <reon> paradizelost, I'll wait for the downloads to finish and then tackle the install
[11:08] <eobanb_> sammy_, so just open your player of choice and open the file
[11:08] <paradizelost> k.
[11:08] <eobanb_> Dingo, restrictions..?
[11:08] <sammy_> eobanb, it didnt work said i needed to download a plugin or something
[11:08] <jeff303> how can I take several long text lines and nicely "format" them into 80-char lines with hard breaks using emacs or vi or whatever?
[11:09] <delmar> NoUse, I am pointing out that the guide found at the address https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29  refers to making changes on the GUI regarding windows networking... and I have no such settings to change/apply on my system.. ubuntu 5.10
[11:09] <eobanb_> !tell sammy about mp3
[11:09] <paradizelost> reon: the biggies is apt-get install build-essential xinetd and the linux-headers for your kernel
[11:09] <Dingo> eobanb_: I mean, not being able to run some programs
[11:09] <eobanb_> Dingo, for example..?
[11:09] <paradizelost> then you extract the archive, and run ./vmware-install in the folder
[11:09] <nseltzer> Xanadu, ipw3945
[11:09] <sammy_> eobanb, no decoders found it says
[11:09] <eobanb_> sammy_, did you read the link ubotu sent you
[11:09] <Dingo> eobanb_: no idea, I'm just asking to be sure :P
[11:09] <Xanadu> try grep that nseltzer
[11:10] <sammy_> eobanb, no, which one?
[11:10] <eobanb_> !tell sammy_ about mp3
[11:10] <paradizelost> sammy_: which program are you using?
[11:10] <paradizelost> !tell sammy_ about xmms
[11:10] <eobanb_> Dingo, ubuntu will basically work the same way on intel mac hardware as it does on any other x86 PC.
[11:10] <eobanb_> Dingo, except that you'll need to use boot camp
[11:10] <Xanadu> try grep that nseltzer
[11:11] <reon> paradizelost, thks, I have build essentials, i'll just have to install linux headers.
[11:11] <eobanb_> Dingo, there are plenty of how-tos online about running linux (particularly ubuntu, actually) on intel macs using boot camp
[11:11] <sammy_> xmms wont play it either
[11:11] <NoUse> delmar looks like an error in the wiki, there is a comment on it in the wiki itself
[11:11] <eobanb_> !mp3
[11:11] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:11] <eobanb_> ^---read that, sammy_
[11:11] <nseltzer> Xanadu, onit
[11:11] <Dingo> eobanb_: yes, I'm reading some
[11:11] <delmar> NoUse, ok. havent got that far. :P
[11:11] <paradizelost> reon: what about xinetd?
[11:11] <sammy_> ok
[11:12] <nseltzer> Xanadu, I don't see the wireless devic
[11:12] <Xanadu> nseltzer try "sudo modprobe ipw3945"
[11:13] <blaze> hello :), would somebody tell me how to tell a program always to open for examble mp3 files
[11:13] <blaze> by default
[11:13] <nseltzer> Xanadu, ipw3945 not found.
[11:13] <sammy_> so I should get gstreamer?
[11:13] <blaze> for example *
[11:13] <eobanb_> sammy_, yes
[11:13] <sammy_> ok thank you
[11:13] <eobanb_> sammy_, please, just follow the instructions on that page
[11:13] <paradizelost> sammy_: do what the site says
[11:13] <Xanadu> hmm that's not good nseltzer - what version of ubuntu you running?
[11:14] <djrandom> eobanb: help, please! :)
[11:14] <Drake`> pitti: were you able to solve that by just adding the users to plugdev group?
[11:14] <sammy_> paradizelost, what site?
[11:14] <eobanb_> djrandom, yes, what is  it?
[11:14] <reon> paradizelost, i'll have to install xinetd as well
[11:14] <sammy_> paradizelost, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?
[11:14] <paradizelost> sammy_: the link that eobanb sent you
[11:14] <paradizelost> reon: yes
[11:14] <NoUse> blaze right click -> Open With... > other application
[11:14] <sammy_> paradizelost,  oh okay, yeah im installing gstreamer
[11:14] <NoUse> blaze you can set as default there
[11:14] <nseltzer> Xanadu, 5.10
[11:14] <djrandom> eobanb: :) i booted using the gparted live cd- i can downsize my two ntfs partitions, but i cannot grow my swap or ext3 ones- according to the docs i should be able to- any idea what im doing wrong?
[11:15] <Xanadu> nseltzer you install the drivers from source?
[11:15] <blaze> ok, 10x. =)
[11:15] <paradizelost> djrandom: make sure they aren't mounted
[11:15] <sammy_> :-D
[11:15] <sammy_> yay! thanks eobanb and paradizelost!
[11:15] <eobanb_> djrandom, exactly what liveCD are you using?
[11:15] <djrandom> paradizelost: surely they wont auto mount with a live cd?
[11:15] <nseltzer> Xanadu, Explain, I installed using the windows wireless drivers pkg form the windows partition
[11:15] <djrandom> eobanb: the official gparted live cd
[11:15] <student> Greetings, I am trying to install flash player into mozilla, but am having problems. I did "sudo apt-get install swf-player", that seemed to install but didn't work, I also tried running the installation from adobe.com and pointing it to /etc/lib/mozilla but that still didn't work, any ideas?
[11:15] <djrandom> rather than a ubuntu live disk
[11:16] <crimsun> student: you need flashplugin-nonfree
[11:16] <paradizelost> !tell student about easyubuntu
[11:16] <eobanb_> djrandom, there is no CD called 'the gparted live CD'....are you using the 5.10 liveCD?
[11:16] <Xanadu> nseltzer erm I don't think that would work.
[11:16] <djrandom> eobanb:trust me, its a gparted live cd!
[11:17] <Xanadu> nseltzer there's quite a bit about that card on ubuntuforums
[11:17] <Xanadu> nseltzer have you checked that stuff out?
[11:17] <nseltzer> Xanadu,  COuld I get a link from ya?
[11:17] <eobanb_> djrandom, is it the 5.10 liveCD, or the 6.06 liveCD, or what?
[11:17] <djrandom> eobanb: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:17] <jeff303> how can I automatically split long lines of text using emacs/vi/etc ?
[11:17] <blaze> NoUse, there is no such option "make it the default program"
[11:17] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[11:17] <eobanb_> djrandom, that disc has nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:17] <nseltzer> Xanadu, I've tried before... I'm not very good at this.
[11:17] <eobanb_> djrandom, this is an ubuntu support channel
[11:17] <djrandom> eobanb: fair comment
[11:17] <blaze> Nouse, i go to Open with other application and choose XMMS
[11:18] <eobanb_> djrandom, for support for that particular disc i suggest you try its appropriate irc channel or mailing list
[11:18] <Xanadu> nseltzer looking for a link now
[11:18] <blaze> and then open
[11:18] <djrandom> eobanb: thanks anyway
[11:18] <djrandom> :)
[11:18] <Rug> My Printing-Admin is missing.  what do I apt-get install to get it back?
[11:18] <blaze> the next time i try to double click an mp3, it doesn't start xmms as i wanted to
[11:18] <paradizelost> brb br break
[11:18] <Sven_vB> how do i ask apt for a list of all packages that are installed on my system, but won't be installed by a default 5.10 install?
[11:18] <nseltzer> Xanadu, THanks
[11:18] <delmar> OK so following that guide on it's own didn't work.  I have a line in the fstab that is like //123.123.123.123/share       /media/stuff    smbfs credentials=/etc/samba/user,rw,uid=myuser   0   0   but when i do mount /media/stuff  I get errors like  "cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it., 31462: protocol negotiation failed, SMB connection failed.  There is nothong on the wiki regarding this failure.
[11:19] <NoUse> sorry, right-click-> properties, open with tab
[11:19] <NoUse> blaze ^^
[11:20] <Veidit> Good evning, I wonder why alpha 7 was release after beta 2, will there be more alphas? and are there any specific changes?
[11:20] <blaze> i've figured it out, 10x =)
[11:20] <student> crimsun, does nonfree mean that it is not opensource or that it needs to be paid for?
[11:20] <eobanb_> Veidit, ask that #ubuntu+1
[11:20] <blaze> i went to properties and chose Open With Tab
[11:20] <blaze> and then changed the radio button to XMMS :)
[11:20] <eobanb_> student, it can mean both, but usually just means that it's not open source.
[11:20] <blaze> 10x anyway, you are great :)
[11:20] <pitti> Drake`: you have to log out and back in to make the group addition become effective
[11:20] <student> ok thanks
[11:21] <student> I will take a look at easyubuntu
[11:21] <nseltzer> Xanadu, I'm on a satellite connection, so if I dissappear. YOu know .:P
[11:21] <Xanadu> nseltzer check out http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/ - download drivers from there
[11:21] <Xanadu> nseltzer I'm on a wireless connection in South Africa so I know ;)
[11:21] <Pr0v4> hi at all!
[11:21] <eobanb_> welcome, Pr0v4
[11:22] <Xanadu> nseltzer install instructions are at http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/INSTALL
[11:22] <Pr0v4> i'm a italian user, i try to install xgl on my ubuntu
[11:22] <eobanb_> !tell Pr0v4 about it
[11:22] <eobanb_> !tell Pr0v4 about xgl
[11:22] <paradizelost> Pr0v4: look at #ubuntu-xgl
[11:23] <Pr0v4> oh sorry
[11:23] <Pr0v4> i don't think are a channel only for xgl :D
[11:23] <echobinary> whats in #ubuntu-xgl?
[11:23] <Rug> echobinary: happy people
[11:23] <echobinary> lol
[11:23] <Bergcube> I almost hate myself for asking this, but is there any alternative to Gaim that implements more of the MSN Messenger functionality than Gaim does?  It does not even need to cover all the protocols Gaim does, the ones of interest are MSN, Yahoo and ICQ.
[11:23] <Rug> Bergcube: amsn
[11:24] <haller> i would like to mention that i dont like the the look of new update-notify message in dapper. ..there is a bulb inside a speech bubble inside another speech bubble.. a speech bubble inside a speech bubble.. i think that is crazy.
[11:24] <Drake`> pitti: were you able to solve mounting by adding users to plugdev group?
[11:24] <eobanb_> echobinary, it's for help on installing and using a rendering and compositing engine called XGL with ubuntu.  it lets you render your user interface with your graphics card instead of your CPU.
[11:24] <Bergcube> Rug~  Short and to the point.  I will investigate.  Thanks a lot for the tip!
[11:24] <echobinary> gotcha
[11:24] <echobinary> sounds like what i need
[11:24] <Rug> np
[11:25] <pitti> Drake`: yes, of course
[11:25] <echobinary> ive been having troubles installing and getting my nVidia card to work, and the online resources dont help me much
[11:25] <bilford> CAn someone help me.  I messed up my folder association .  When I click Folder shortcuts on my desktop, it opens a window that says Play Files instead of opening Konqueror
[11:25] <eobanb_> haller, go complain in #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[11:25] <pitti> Drake`: (I'm pmount upstream and Debian/Ubuntu maintainer :) )
[11:25] <Drake`> pittit: I added myself to plugdev and still unable to mount and umount from nautilus
[11:25] <pitti> Drake`: even after logging out and in?
[11:25] <nseltzer> Xanadu, Will I need to upgrade my kernel?
[11:26] <pitti> Drake`: what does 'pmount /cdrom' say?
[11:26] <eobanb_> bilford, you might want to also ask that question in #kubuntu
[11:26] <haller> eobanb_ ok sorry
[11:26] <paradizelost> echobinary: it's the ubuntu room for xgl issues....
[11:26] <echobinary> does anyone else have a nVidia 7300GS?
[11:26] <bilford> eobanb, ty
[11:26] <blaze> will you help me with installing macromedia flash for mozilla?
[11:26] <Xanadu> nseltzer nah you shouldn't have to
[11:26] <eobanb_> !tell blaze about flash
[11:26] <echobinary> ...in here that is
[11:26] <Drake`> pitti: will try again
[11:26] <blaze> 10x
[11:26] <Xanadu> nseltzer you should get the latest updates though - it's always a good idea
[11:27] <nseltzer> Xanadu, I ran the update pkg on ubuntu
[11:27] <Drake`> should all users be added to plugdev by default when adding users?
[11:27] <Xanadu> nseltzer then you should be okay
[11:27] <OneTruth> how can i search for a directory?
[11:27] <nseltzer> Xanadu, K.. I let you know how I mess this up.  Thanks for all of your help.
[11:28] <graveson> i am receiving GPG errors can someone help me resolve this ?
[11:28] <OneTruth> or where does ubuntu put the cgi-bin?
[11:28] <eobanb_> OneTruth, probably in /var/www/ somewhere
[11:28] <paradizelost> !gpg
[11:28] <ubotu> from memory, gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[11:28] <OneTruth> thats what i thought but its not there
[11:28] <echobinary> hmm
[11:28] <OneTruth> i can just make one, but i was wondering if there was already one made
[11:28] <echobinary> !nvidia
[11:28] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:28] <Xanadu> nseltzer: cool no probs - try read some of the stuff on www.ubuntuforums.org - search for ipw3945 and you should see quite a bit of stuff
[11:28] <paradizelost> OneTruth: find /path/to/directory "file.name"
[11:28] <eobanb_> !apache
[11:28] <ubotu> somebody said apache was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:28] <inx|David> !ati
[11:28] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:29] <echobinary> see.. i tried that - i had to restore from backup
[11:29] <OneTruth> cool thx
[11:29] <paradizelost> echobinary: you are having issues loading the nvidia drivers for your graphics card?
[11:29] <echobinary> yeah
[11:29] <echobinary> nvidia 7300gs
[11:29] <Xanadu> night all
[11:29] <echobinary> just got it so i could ditch the windows gaming machine
[11:29] <paradizelost> use easyubuntu and install the nvidia-glx package
[11:29] <echobinary> g'night :)
[11:29] <paradizelost> !tell echobinary about easyubuntu
[11:30] <echobinary> yeah - i am in there too
[11:30] <echobinary> gonna try that tonight on a fresh install
[11:30] <echobinary> i have to say ubuntu has better hardware autotetection than slackware does
[11:30] <fusion> hello everyone.  i'm having some ubuntu problems i can't figure out.  I'm a ubuntu newb so you'll have to bear with me.
[11:30] <paradizelost> echobinary: worse comes to worse you can just download the latest drivers from nvidia.com
[11:30] <echobinary> tried that too - even compiled it
[11:31] <echobinary> lol
[11:31] <graveson> sorry let me rephrase that : i am doing a sudo apt-get update and then i receive this error .what does this mean
[11:31] <Rug> fusion: just ask the question
[11:31] <eobanb_> !tell fusion about anyone
[11:31] <fusion> here's my problem...
[11:31] <echobinary> then i got messages saying that it couldnt find a valid GPU when trying to load the module
[11:31] <echobinary> which is nuts because i just bought the thing
[11:31] <movi> can someone show me their grub kernel line ?
[11:31] <echobinary> specificaly for using it on linux with opengl
[11:31] <Drake`> pitti: it worked after logging in and out the second time...should all users be added to plugdev by default of adduser?
[11:31] <fusion> i'm always getting a linux-image package error, and i can't seem to fix it
[11:32] <hymek> czee all
[11:32] <Rug> movi: this is a family channel.  No talking like that you perv
[11:32] <movi> i already have grub from gentoo and i want to get the usplash settings right
[11:32] <paradizelost> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-22-686
[11:32] <paradizelost> root            (hd0,0)
[11:32] <paradizelost> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-22-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[11:32] <paradizelost> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-22-686
[11:32] <paradizelost> savedefault
[11:32] <paradizelost> boot
[11:32] <eobanb_> !paste
[11:32] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[11:32] <paradizelost> sorry for spamming,
[11:32] <gnomefreak> paradizelost: dont paste in here
[11:32] <paradizelost> that was for movi
[11:32] <movi> thanks
[11:32] <movi> :)
[11:32] <tolga> slm cigerler nmb
[11:32] <Rug> fusion: what is the exact error?
[11:33] <fusion> umm, lemme see if i can get it to popup again
[11:33] <pitti> Drake`: no, adduser doesn't do that; the GUI tool does, though (that's what normal users are supposed to find first ;) )
[11:33] <fusion> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.12-10-386_2.6.12-10.32_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[11:34] <Drake`> pitti: lol well "normal" is a subjective term...thanks a lot for point out the issue though
[11:34] <the_mr_bong_show> i have a problem with wine can some one help me
[11:34] <eobanb_> the_mr_bong_show, just ask
[11:34] <the_mr_bong_show> what does this mean
[11:34] <the_mr_bong_show> wine client error:2b: version mismatch 218/232.
[11:34] <the_mr_bong_show> Your wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly,
[11:34] <the_mr_bong_show> or you have an older one somewhere in your PATH.
[11:34] <the_mr_bong_show> Or maybe the wrong wineserver is still running?
[11:34] <eobanb_> !paste
[11:34] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[11:34] <tolga> slm kankiler naslsnz
[11:35] <the_mr_bong_show> sorry
[11:35] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: says you didn't upgrade properly
[11:35] <tolga> turk?
[11:35] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i upgrade right
[11:35] <Rug> fusion: tell me what happens after you do this:   sudo apt-get update    sudo apt-get upgrade    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:36] <fusion> Rug: I enter that in the terminal, right?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Rug: skip sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:36] <paradizelost> !wine
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Rug: its not needed
[11:36] <Rug> fusion: yupp
[11:36] <gnomefreak> dist-upgrade handles upgrade and more
[11:36] <Rug> yes, I just like doing them in order
[11:36] <echobinary> if i were to run EU on a fresh install is there any preparation needed, like letting the system update itself first and rebooting for the new kernel?
[11:37] <the_mr_bong_show> paradizelost how do i upgrade it right way
[11:37] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: i use crossoveroffice instead of wine...
[11:37] <paradizelost> so i'm not the one to ask
[11:37] <the_mr_bong_show> ok thanks
[11:37] <fusion> Rug: fusion@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:37] <fusion> Reading package lists... Done
[11:37] <fusion> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:37] <fusion> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:37] <fusion> 145 not fully installed or removed.
[11:37] <fusion> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:38] <fusion> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[11:38] <paradizelost> !past
[11:38] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[11:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know the name of the package to install the clone of yahoo widgets/OS Dashboard on Gnome??
[11:38] <paradizelost> !paste
[11:38] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[11:38] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one tell me how i can upgrade wine
[11:38] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: are you using dapper or breezy?
[11:38] <Rug> fusion: do you have anything else open that is trying to access the system Update?
[11:38] <the_mr_bong_show> breezy
[11:39] <paradizelost> what did you use to install wine?
[11:39] <fusion> Rug: I might, let me close everything and try it again.
[11:39] <the_mr_bong_show> the termanl
[11:39] <eobanb_> the_mr_bong_show, apt-get?
[11:39] <paradizelost> as in apt-get install wine?
[11:39] <the_mr_bong_show> yeah
[11:40] <the_mr_bong_show> wget http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb
[11:40] <the_mr_bong_show> i used that
[11:40] <eobanb_> ...
[11:40] <eobanb_> the_mr_bong_show, that's probably not what you should be doing
[11:40] <graveson> i am receiving these annoying GPG errors when running the command apt-get update ? anyone know hw to fix this
[11:40] <OneTruth> what is the command to untar a file to a different directory?
[11:40] <eobanb_> the_mr_bong_show, wget is not at all the same as apt-get
[11:40] <the_mr_bong_show> i flowed thes drictions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585
[11:41] <crocd> hi guys, I need some advice on boot options to install ubuntu amd 64 on my system. it wont detect the sata drive to partition it with the normal boot option.
[11:41] <SpookyET> hi
[11:41] <gnomefreak> graveson: do you have unoffical repos?
[11:42] <OneTruth> how do i untar a file to a specific directory?
[11:42] <sladen> paradizelost: for your usplash;   sudo update-initramfs -u `uname -r`
[11:42] <fusion> Rug: everything seemed to install/upgrade fine.  what exactly do all those commands do?
[11:42] <SpookyET> not to be a prick, but I really hate the ubuntu update system.  Every day, i have to download 50-100 MiB of updates.  I don't understand why it is downloading full packages instead of patches.  It makes no bloody sense.  What a waste of bandwidth!
[11:42] <echobinary> every day?
[11:42] <SpookyET> Yep
[11:42] <paradizelost> sladen: why are you telling me this?
[11:43] <graveson> gnomefreak: no , i think not ,how would i know ?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> SpookyET: im guessing your not running breezy your running dapper and thats what you get for running unstable/testing
[11:43] <gnomefreak> graveson: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file for me please
[11:43] <Rug> update -> updates available progam list and installs minor bug/security fixes     dist-upgrade-> Upgrades your entire system (+ doing update)
[11:43] <paradizelost> SpookyET: do a uname -a, what kernel version are you running?
[11:43] <SpookyET> I'm running dapper
[11:44] <paradizelost> SpookyET: its a DEVELOPMENT version.  they change a lot of shiat.
[11:44] <fusion> Rug:  where can i find common commands like that?
[11:44] <Runix> hi
[11:44] <SpookyET> Still man, patches are more bandwidth friendly
[11:44] <gnomefreak> SpookyET: you dont want updates everyday use a stable version of ubuntu
[11:44] <Runix> i need help
[11:44] <paradizelost> SpookyET: ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:44] <Rug> in:  /usr/bin   and /usr/sbin
[11:44] <the_mr_bong_show> so how do i upgrade my wine
[11:44] <Runix> i must to delete from menu itame "recent document"
[11:44] <Drake`> why would breezy be trying to update bluetooth when no bluetooth devices are installed?
[11:45] <Rug> Drake`: incase you ever want to use Bluetooth
[11:45] <fusion> I've got another problem too: when i go to run openoffice this is what i get: Cannot launch entry
[11:45] <fusion> Details: Failed to execute child process "ooffice2" (No such file or directory)
[11:45] <eobanb_> Drake`, in case you ever want to use bluetooth
[11:45] <D^2> probably because the package exists.
[11:45] <graveson> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13765
[11:45] <paradizelost> Drake`: because the software for it is installed....
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Drake`: its installed by default (some bluetooth stuff)
[11:45] <the_mr_bong_show> gnomefreak do you know how i can upgrade my wine
[11:46] <Rug> fusion: sounds like a bad file name, perhaps somebody else could help with that
[11:46] <gnomefreak> graveson: paste the output of sudo apt-get update to pastebin please
[11:46] <fusion> ok, thanks for the help.
[11:46] <Rug> np
[11:46] <Runix> can you help me?
[11:47] <Industrial> I need pgadmin3 version 1.4, the one i have just installed is 1.2 and is from september 05. I'm having problems with it. How do i get the latest version?
[11:47] <Rug> !justask
[11:47] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[11:47] <fusion> anyone else have any ideas what i can do?
[11:47] <Runix>  i must to delete from menu itame "recent document"
[11:47] <gnomefreak> the_mr_bong_show: no i dont have any use for wine on ubuntu (that would entail i used windows apps) lol i dont think you can update it unless you got it from the repos and than your still not garenteed to get updates
[11:47] <bipolar> is  anyone runing mysql with ssl support on ubuntu? I just read a site that said that most distrobutions do not have it enabled and will require a recompile! some one please tell me it's not true :\
[11:47] <graveson> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13766
[11:47] <sladen> paradizelost: because you were asking about usplash working...
[11:47] <Rug> gnome menu editing isn't perfect quite yet...
[11:47] <paradizelost> sladen: no i wasn't....
[11:48] <sladen> paradizelost: oh well, I'm glad I was able to help anyway
[11:48] <OneTruth> what is that command to un tar to a different directory?
[11:48] <Rug> bipolar: welcome to Debian... you never need to recompile!
[11:48] <gnomefreak> graveson: try taking the sa. out of the repos
[11:48] <paradizelost> OneTruth: cd to the directory and tar -xvf /path/to/file.tar
[11:49] <OneTruth> ahh ok thanks
[11:49] <gnomefreak> just take the country code out of repos and run apt-get update see if that helps
[11:49] <graveson> gnomefreak: just to clarify - all repos containing the line with sa should be removed ?
[11:49] <bipolar> Rug: quering mysql with 'SHOW VARIABLES LIKE "%ssl%";' tells me "have_openssl  | NO". thats what worries me.
[11:50] <gnomefreak> graveson: no just the sa.
[11:50] <gnomefreak> graveson: hold on ill paste mine to pastebin
[11:50] <Rug> you should just need to edit the conf files to use ssl.
[11:50] <graveson> gnomefreak: ok
[11:51] <gnomefreak> graveson: erase all your repos and paste these in there place (these are not mine but they are working repos for breezy)
[11:51] <gnomefreak> graveson: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[11:51] <Isyth> Hey people, I've got a little problem. I downloaded a compressed folder in .tpb format and I have no idea how to open it... is there any package to fix that?
[11:52] <paradizelost> !tpb
[11:52] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[11:52] <gnomefreak> graveson: paste from the whitespace not the brown
[11:52] <josh__> to view things on my windows partition i'd have to mount those drives correct?
[11:52] <josh__> partitions
[11:52] <hurax> yes
[11:52] <paradizelost> Isyth: never heard of the extension
[11:52] <paradizelost> josh__: yes
[11:53] <mibo-cz> join #ubuntu-cz
[11:53] <josh__> and windows will still be a ok right?
[11:53] <paradizelost> josh__: yes.  as long as you don't try to enable write support.
[11:53] <paradizelost> josh__: if you try that you may destroy your data
[11:53] <paradizelost> !ntfs
[11:53] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:53] <josh__> alright wont do that lol
[11:54] <josh__> thanks man, i got a lot of files i want to access there when i boot up in linux
[11:54] <josh__> know what i'm sayin
[11:54] <paradizelost> yep
[11:54] <paradizelost> i do that on my laptop at home
[11:55] <Runix>  i must to delete from menu item "recent document"
[11:55] <_jason> Runix: places > recent documents > clear recent documents (at the bottom)
[11:55] <paradizelost> Runix: right click at hte top and click edit menu
[11:55] <fusion> anyone have any idea how to fix this error i get when i open up openoffice? Cannot launch entry
[11:55] <fusion> Details: Failed to execute child process "ooffice2" (No such file or directory)
[11:56] <echobinary> is there a change log to see whats going to be new and shiny in the official dapper release?
[11:56] <Runix> i need delete voice
[11:56] <paradizelost> !dapper
[11:56] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[11:56] <gnomefreak> graveson: let me know if it helps
[11:57] <Rug> bbiab  reboot
[11:57] <gnomefreak> paradizelost: editing menus wont let you take recent docs out of menus
[11:57] <paradizelost> just noticed that
[11:59] <fusion> anyone have any ideas?