=== alfredn [n=alfred@c-71-192-4-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:08] Hello, is there any place or places to go to learn about setting up sound, and floppy, usb, and cdrom access? I did well with K12LTSP but I want to use Ubuntu/Debian. [12:09] sound works out odf the box in ubuntu/edubuntu if you just set SOUND=True in lts.conf [12:10] localdevice support isnt included yet [12:10] bah === alfredn [n=alfred@c-71-192-4-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:11] Sorry got disconnected there [12:12] localdevice support isnt included yet, there is manual work required [12:12] all other stuff is autodetected on the thin clients in ubuntu [12:13] I don't mind that, lda-new worked so well but I think it needed hotplug, what method are you suggesting for local devices? As far as sound goes the login sound plays but rhythmplayer or xmms do not. And it is not a media format problem [12:13] we use similar hardware detection the liveCD uses === PMantis [n=pmantis@cpe-66-66-115-197.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:13] ogra, I founs that a Dapper upgrade caused all my wpasupplicant configs to be renamed. Synaptic says it's installed, but no /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant [12:14] alfredn, as long as your gstreamer output sink is set to esd all should work fine [12:14] PMantis, hmm, k thats not very ltsp specific :) [12:14] Also, the lid switch on my laptop no longer causes a screen lock. [12:14] ogra, No, it's not. :) [12:14] I will go check [12:15] PMantis, /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ for wpa :) [12:15] ogra, I just knew you were closer to the Ubuntu project than I, and I thought I hit you with the first report and find out where I *should* report it to. [12:15] its not run just randomly on every system anymore by an initscript, but on demand :) [12:15] ogra, Ahh, not in /etc/wpasupplicant.conf ... [12:16] there is also /etc/wpa_supplicant/ifupdown.sh [12:16] ogra, I'm currently running it manually to connect. [12:16] i'm not using any encryption here so i'm not the best person for wpa stuff [12:17] the lid/suspend prob has already ~50 bugreports, so i doubt we'll need one more :) [12:17] LOL [12:17] its supposed to work fine with network-manager and nm-applet [12:17] did you try that ? [12:17] if your card works with it its awesome [12:18] Hmm, no... stopped using that because it didn't support WPA, and NM seems really flakey [12:18] it supports WPA now and runs stable for cards it supports [12:19] ogra, Many times as I'm sitting here, 10 foot from my AP, nm-aplet starts swirling and I loose the connection over and over. [12:19] sadly thats only 60-70% of the cards, so we didnt include it in the default install, but its on the CD [12:19] Well, I have an ipw2200 [12:19] that should work fine by now [12:19] when did you test it the last time ? [12:19] Few weeks ago.. on Breezy [12:20] aw, in breezy [12:20] nm and breezy are no friends :) [12:20] I even downladed a new ipw2200 from sourceforge, and new firmware for my card. [12:20] dapper saw a lot improvements wrt nm [12:20] OK, I get it. :) I'll try NM again [12:21] Hmmm [12:21] ogra, BTW... do you know if I can run a script automatically based on what wireless network I connect to? [12:21] IOW, *if* I connect to my home wireless AP, run a script to start openVPN ? [12:22] /etc/network/if-up.d [12:22] put it in there === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-202-116.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [12:22] Wild... there's already an "openvpn" file there. [12:24] ogra, Know much about the lines: if [ -n "$IF_OPENVPN" ] ; then [12:24] $OPENVPN start $IF_OPENVPN [12:24] ? [12:25] What sets $IF_OPENVPN ? [12:25] sorry, no idea [12:25] grep OPENVPN /etc/*/*/* ? [12:25] grep OPENVPN /etc/*/* ? [12:25] grep OPENVPN /etc/* ? [12:25] :) [12:25] hehe [12:25] or grep -R OPENVPN /etc/ [12:26] heh, yes :) [12:30] can someone send me their lts.conf hosts dhcp file for a edubuntu ltsp server that has sound and local drive support. Just curious what I am missing. I've got it all to work in K12ltsp but not as well in Edubuntu. I want to use edubuntu though becouse I know in time a community like this will surpass the k12lstp. [12:30] as i said no localdev support [12:30] for sound in lts.conf: [12:30] [default] SOUND=True [12:30] thats it [12:31] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes has hints for dhcp at the bottom [12:32] BRB [12:33] Sorry ogra I thought you said with work yes? Yes sound works after running gstreamer-properties. alfred@yurtboy.gotdns.com [12:33] alfredn, actually it was ed harris (k12ltsp founder) who made the first suggestion for edubuntu once [12:33] so i think he hopes that we surpass k12 some day [12:34] so the support is off his sholders ... :) [12:34] and he can use edubuntu and customize it to his needs [12:34] to make it k12edubuntu or something :) [12:35] Orga, so the sound is go. And my dhcp matches the web site. So how about fuse is that working yet or is there really no chance for [12:35] local devices [12:35] localdev support is planned for the october release, before that you'll have to set up localdev manually [12:36] ltspfs and ltspfsd are in universe, but neither tested nor do the packages include any of the scripts, you need to grab these from ltsp.org [12:37] fuse is available as module in ubuntu [12:37] and the ltspfs packages get compiled against our fuse library [12:38] but things like lbus and the different connction and device creatin scripts are missing [12:38] *creation [12:38] and we'll likely not implement it the way ltsp.org did it === PMantis [n=pmantis@cpe-66-66-115-197.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:38] ogra, ok, on wiht NM [12:38] WPA too! [12:39] so it works stable for you ? [12:39] Heh... I've only been on for 2 minutes [12:39] So.... can't tell ya. :) [12:39] but you are here :) [12:39] Now to figure out the openvpn integration for if-up [12:39] it even works with my airport extreme in this ibook here [12:39] That would be SLICK! [12:40] just the level reporting doesnt [12:40] heh, cool [12:40] Oh.. on scans? [12:40] no, in the little meter in the panel [12:40] its a known regression of the broadcom driver [12:40] Oh, for the *current* AP. [12:40] yep === cliebow [n=cliebow@70-33-151-214.agstme.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:42] haha, welcome #ltsp :) === ogra sees slowly coming all people over to #edubuntu [12:44] ogra, Have a repo for dapper? http://www.grawert.net/ubuntu/ [12:45] nope [12:45] thats mostly dead stuff i didnt work on since warty [12:45] I have it here beacuse of a howto... forgot what for. [12:46] BRB, kids' bed time [12:46] asything specific you want from there ? i'll happily package it for universe :) [12:46] *anything [12:48] ogra: it is a happening place!! [12:48] hehe [12:49] dapper has me really psyched..is that going to differentiate into edu k goo [12:52] we're still missing local devices [12:52] thats a major blocker it seems [12:53] ogra: it is still pretty dicey in 4.2 anyway... [12:54] sound is the the showstopper in education..for 4.2 [12:54] yes, but people choose 4.2 over ubuntu ltsp because of it [12:54] just a big pain [12:54] our sound works fine as far as i can tell [12:55] (i have no 100 client setup to stress test) [12:55] where is the bootup slowdown? === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [12:55] X configuration and hardware probing for the device drivers [12:56] and getltscfg is pretty slow for no apparent reason, i'll look into it for edgy eft [12:56] i have a fairly large setup..but no significant server to run it..and the prurchase of mlti laptops at 50bucks a pop jeopardise that [12:57] the setups i have [12:57] i'm also planning to evaluate if we could switch to dash instead fo bash that will gain us an immensely small memory footprint i think [12:57] ahh.. [12:58] python doesnt figure then on the client side at all? [12:58] +python is fine on the client side, but dash is a) a lot faster than bash b) a lot smaller than bash :) [12:59] the client is more than just the python scripts ;) [01:00] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuEdgyLTSPFeatureIdeas [01:00] thats my proposed todo for edgy [01:00] i need to look..edgy geing October? [01:01] ogra, have you looked at the stateless linux stuff from redhat. Apparently they are doing more work for fc6 [01:01] yep [01:01] afaict, there isn't much code on the ground yet, but it is a good idea [01:02] Burgwork, thats like netbooting workstations iirc, right ? [01:02] ogra, sort of [01:02] ?stateless linux? [01:02] so what i call thick client support :) [01:03] http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/stateless/ [01:03] its my 5th point and i think its very easy to implement in our current ltsp [01:03] even i dont plan more than the top four for eft [01:04] ogra: sound handy... workstations take state and run local apps/cpu... [01:05] and mount /home from the server [01:10] thanks for sharing these with me... [01:12] LaserJock, highvoltage, the edubuntu.org mailadresses should work now [01:13] ogra: I have a edubuntu.org address? now I really feel special ;-) [01:13] cliebow, well, thats what we're here for, collaboration :) [01:14] LaserJock, you got more than me btw, somehow *my* address makes probs again ... :) [01:15] Yes..makes my world go around..hope to have more to contribute as time goes on.. [01:16] we'll happily accept everything :) === alfredn [n=alfred@c-71-192-4-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:20] ogra: ya! it worked. [01:20] :) [01:21] Ogra I got disconnected there can you list the ltspfs files I need to try fuse and have you had any luck? By the way why does my ltsp client not boot to the gui screen but to the console and I have to alt-ctrl f8 to it? [01:22] you have an old version of ltsp-client running, i fixed that bug (console login instead of gui) on monday [01:22] there are ltspfs and ltspfsd [01:23] but you will also need lbus from ltsp.org and all the little nifty scripts to make everything play together [01:24] ogra: what are you using for authentication.i am deep into an ldap /cgi thing right now [01:24] there is an "ltsp-server-pkg-ubuntu" package on ltsp.org with all scripts and tools in it, but i never tried it [01:24] (in the local device section on the ltsp.org wiki that is ) [01:25] cliebow, only shadow/pam locally, edubuntu is still a single classroom distro === PMantis is back [01:25] there are some summer of code projects addressing network authentication in ubuntu, i hope we'll get something nice to adopt it in edubuntu [01:26] ogra: so a web based thingie is passe..or not? [01:26] thanks ogra I will try and update things and the fuse why does edubuntu seem to be a step back from k12ltsp is it because alot is changing? [01:26] not really what i'm targeting ... but a good optional add on in any case [01:26] alfredn:new [01:27] Anyone know how to tell what packages I'm using from a specific repository? [01:27] alfredn, its all newly designed, there are some new basic principles that need to be worked in [01:28] PMantis, apt-cache madison [01:28] madison? [01:28] hmm [01:29] What it is what I *don't* know ? [01:29] alfredn, also we only work with plain distro packages, so instead of writing a script that makes my stuff work but breaks the package in every other context, i make the change directly to the package and make sure the change corresponds to all other use cases of the package [01:30] that takes more time but is way cleaner ... and i can devolp everything inside of ubuntu not as a subproject :) [01:31] PMantis, hmm, you want it reverse [01:31] Yes, provide repository, get list of packages [01:32] Although, I just created a Synaptic filter, looking from grawert in "origin". [01:32] only 3 items [01:32] yep [01:32] there is not much in my old repo [01:33] pimp [01:33] lol [01:33] i should either shut it down or update the packages ... [01:33] since there is no warty anymore [01:33] PMantis: what repo are you looking for? [01:33] Can you tell me if that's true? Only 3 in the repo? [01:33] pimp was really famous [01:34] LaserJock, I'm trying to determine *if* I'm using any package from ogra's repo. [01:35] http://www.grawert.net/ubuntu/dists/warty/universe/binary-i386/ [01:35] there are 6 packages [01:35] but at least graveman and gcursor are in universe since hoary [01:36] Ahhh [01:36] so you wont be able to use my old packages for them [01:36] linkf from XChat arent' working since Daper upgrade [01:36] err links [01:37] mrburns is totally immature and not remoptely as good as serpentine [01:37] pimp is fine for photo importing if you dont want to use an app like f-spot [01:37] ...and MAN, my laptop spends *muck* more time with the CPU scaled up to full speed, and I'm not doing anything special. [01:37] or gtumb [01:37] heh [01:37] gthumb [01:37] I use Gallery [01:38] i use f-spot now ... it does great gallerys [01:38] ogra last question i went to update ltsp-client and got "Removing ltsp-utils " from apt get? [01:38] urgh [01:39] dont ever use ltsp-utils if you use ubuntu ltsp [01:39] it will surely break everything, i promise [01:39] so apt is right :) [01:40] err, and make sure you update in the chroot [01:40] sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get update [01:40] ^^^ thats the command to get the recent packagelist [01:40] sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get upgrade [01:40] thats actually upgrading the client environment [01:41] PMantis, startup-settings is actually something good i should pull into the distro [01:41] its great for dual booting systems === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu [01:44] ogra, when I did apt-get non-chroot it want to do things like remove and install but when [01:45] i do it chroot it sais all is up to date, I linked the ltsp sources to the /etc/apt/sources [01:45] dont install ltsp-client on a normal system [01:45] it will turn your server in an ltsp client, you dont want that === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [01:46] should I remove things and start again [01:47] if you installed ltsp-client on the server system, yes [01:47] then remove it [01:47] else you wont have a login manager next boot [01:47] ltsp-client should only be in the chroot [01:48] all that is installed in regular root is ltsp-server ltsp-server-standalone ltsp-utils [01:48] yep [01:49] you are using breezy (5.10) right ? [01:49] sorry no I should have mentioned dapper [01:50] ok, then first thing to do is sudo apt-get remove --purge ltsp-utils [01:50] and forget about that package in the future, its the scripts for ltsp 4.1 and incompatible with ubuntu ltsp [01:51] done [01:51] I think I loaded it to try and use ltspinfo tool [01:51] if you used any of these scripts that acrually changed something (ltspadmin/ltspcfg), you should wipe the /opt/ltsp dir [01:52] and start over again [01:52] no I read not to use those [01:52] i think only running ltspinfo should not break anything [01:52] ok [01:54] last question for real -- any chance of getting a microphone to work and therefore skype even gnome-recorder can't see the mic [01:54] alfredn, you should make sure you have the 0.86 version of ltsp-server on the server and ltsp-client in the chroot [01:54] that has the fix for the boot to console bug [01:55] that microphone thing a bit more tricky [01:55] you'll need to run skype as local app [01:55] the ltsp.org wiki has info about how to set that up [01:56] I will look, by the way (yes another question before I run off) should I remove ltsp-server-standalone [01:57] ltsp-server-standalone is a metapackage that cares that dhcpd gets installed [01:57] Ogra thanks again you saved me hours of messing around, I tried to join the mailing list but no reply yet. I do want to try and help out more. [01:57] it will also make sure that you always have the latest packages needed for ltsp ... [01:57] oh, the edubuntu ML ? [01:58] well the dev one, what is the best way to get involved? [01:58] thats automated, you should have gotten an autoreply [01:59] did you subscribe here ? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #edubuntu === Topic for #edubuntu: Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu, download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Mailing List http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org | Website http://www.edubuntu.org | MEETING: every wednesday at 12:00 UTC | Read before installing: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes | Dapper beta is out http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dapper/ === Topic (#edubuntu): set by juliux at Sat Apr 22 16:31:52 2006 === PMantis [n=pmantis@cpe-66-66-115-197.rochester.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.41.228.162] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [06:58] mornin all [07:22] ping ogra [07:30] ogra: cool, i'll try it out later today :) [07:42] bbl === jinty [n=jinty@13.Red-83-50-220.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === pygi-ubuntu [n=korisnik@HOTEL-OMORIKA.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [08:21] sivang: he update his application [08:21] http://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/app.html?csaid=TG.KillerX@gmail.com:10e66774:698f1a1f [08:35] Burgwork: ping (op needed in #ubuntu) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu [09:06] Burgwork: nvm (problem gone) :) === sankarshan is now known as sm|afk === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [09:49] hi everybody [09:50] ping ogra [10:02] highvoltage: anyway to get wiki.edubuntu.org to link to our wiki homepage === sm|afk is now known as sankarshan === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jerome@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #edubuntu [10:30] hey guys [10:34] hi jsgotangco === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.60.217.212] has joined #edubuntu === mbainrot [i=mbainrot@220-245-216-7-act-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [11:04] hi === mbainrot [i=mbainrot@220-245-216-7-act-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #edubuntu [] === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.60.217.212] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-175-6.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@13.Red-83-50-220.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === popey [n=popey@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [12:58] JaneW, ping [01:04] juliux: pong [01:04] JaneW, who have i to ask if i want to have an extrac mailinglist at lists.ubuntu.com? [01:07] ogra: ping [01:08] JaneW: ping [01:08] juliux: jdub [01:08] jsgotangco, thanks [01:09] jsgotangco, we have another contact for that now [01:09] something like mailadmin@ubuntu.com [01:09] ahhh much better [01:09] dont remember the exact address [01:09] ogra: pm? [01:09] oh right, i remember elmo doesn;'t do syncs anymore either [01:10] btw, the edubuntu.org adresses work now [01:10] for all in th eedubuntu-members team, including EC [01:10] ooooh... ogra does that include ours too? [01:10] yep [01:10] nice [01:10] that could mean my ubuntu one is fixed :D [01:10] elmo said he'd do them at the same time :D [01:10] more spam for us! [01:10] :) === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:12] hey guys [02:13] I just had 9 clients loaded, 7 logged in and working on a d600 laptop [02:16] and it wasn't the speed was ok [02:16] that didn't make sense, [02:16] and the speed was ok [02:16] ogra: I did have a hint of that issue that Petaris was talking about yesterday though [02:16] had a few times when two users couldn't login [02:16] after I ran the update ssh keys it was ok [02:17] just about to comb the logs to see why [02:20] i had a user (non-tsf/tuxlab related) that phoned me this morning and couldn't log in with the 6.06 beta [02:20] hmmm [02:20] over client highvoltage ? [02:20] i told him to do a build-ssh-keys (forgot the exact command) and then it ran fine again [02:20] yes i did that and it was fine [02:20] so it seems like s recurrence of an old bug [02:21] where are the ldm logs stored? [02:21] cbx33: over client? [02:21] there were no such bug [02:21] ie not on the server [02:21] ogra: where are the ldm logs? [02:21] and it simply is technically impossible that update-sshkeys fixes it, it must be something else [02:22] in /var7log [02:22] well that's what I thought === pygi [n=korisnik@HOTEL-OMORIKA.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [02:22] ogra: I must be stupid where abouts? [02:23] ogra: i'm refering to the bug in previous alphas where you had to run update-sshkeys after installation, because it didn't run during installation because ssh wasn't running. having said that, however, i can understand that it's not that bug. [02:24] ogra: auth.log:May 11 12:43:40 localhost su[8689] : (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=1000 euid=0 tty=pts/0 ruser=pete rhost= user=andyauth.log:May 11 12:43:43 localhost su[8689] : - pts/0 pete:andyauth.log:May 11 12:43:48 localhost su[8708] : + pts/0 pete:andyauth.log:May 11 12:43:48 localhost su[8708] : (pam_unix) session opened for user andy by (uid=1000)auth.log:May 11 12:43:51 localhost su[8708] : (pam_unix) session closed for user an [02:24] sivang: poke [02:26] JaneW: poke [02:26] but interesteingly enough I coudn't log in either on two seperate machines and I'm not in the log [02:26] perhaps there was a network connectivity issue at that moment? [02:28] ok i found the issue [02:28] hang on [02:28] pastebinning [02:28] hi cbx33 === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu [02:29] hi pygi [02:29] ogra: http://pastebin.com/711304 [02:29] Petaris: the issue you were having yesterday with the not being able to log in [02:30] cbx33: yeah? [02:30] can you possibly put the contents of /var/log/auth.log somewhere I can see [02:30] I had the same issue today and want to check it out [02:30] its pretty clear a DNS breakage [02:30] yes [02:30] wanted to check if that was the same for Petaris [02:31] ogra: perhaps you know who Kyller Costa Gorgnio would be? [02:31] cbx33: ok, just a sec [02:31] thanks [02:31] pygi: peek :) [02:31] sivang: hey :) [02:32] sivang: have you seen updated application? :-D [02:32] pygi: I've the changed application, it's nice to see he's willing to check what can be done with exsiting tools, indeed. but did you see Scott's comment? === pygi looks [02:33] cbx33: the last two logs on it good enough? [02:33] sure [02:33] sivang: ugh, indeed :-/ [02:33] just make sure they cover the time perood you were having problems [02:34] pygi: I talked with him a bit about it, he said to write something that boots to a rescue mode is considered very small work in his regards, for the other parts, he says that there are arelady half a donze tools that arealdy doing that. he just doesn't think there too much meat there for the program, let's call him to discuss as well so you can hear it directly from him [02:34] I agree, so no need to discuss [02:35] sivang: lets just call it a day, and scratch it [02:35] cbx33: http://katerina.frederic.k12.wi.us/code/auth.log and http://katerina.frederic.k12.wi.us/code/auth.log.0 [02:36] pygi: very hard for me, I do not completely agree with Scott, but OTOH I don't have his epxerience to know it's so small work.. (I actually think it would be wise to talk with him before scratching it) [02:36] oki, lets talk with him then [02:36] Petaris: hmm.....not the same issue [02:36] looks from the logs like the password was wrong [02:37] well it coudn't authenticate anyway [02:37] pygi: I could suggest in return a couple replacement projects, pythong dar bindings, python libnotify bindings, stuff surrounding this. [02:37] pygi: you want to do it here, or in a new channel? [02:37] cbx33: all of the user passwords are the same [02:37] sivang: doesnt matter where we discuss it...indeed, you could, but notice he doesnt like python too much [02:37] hmmm strange then [02:38] i had some broken DNS problems [02:38] http://pastebin.com/711304 [02:39] pygi: he's on -devel, join there [02:41] sivang: I am there [02:41] pygi: cool, let's wait for him to respond. [02:43] sivang: I hope you meant #ubuntu-devel :) [02:43] cbx33: What I run into is that I can't login withoiut running the ltsp-update-sshkeys command [02:43] JaneW: poke once again :) [02:43] and then if I logout and try to log back in I hav eto run that command again [02:44] yes, Petaris but that shouldn't affect it [02:45] cbx33: Yet it is so [02:45] well i thought so till i looked at my logs [02:45] I also notice my clock keeps getting out of whack [02:45] andfound it wasn't it [02:45] I wonder if that could be affecting it [02:45] you're not using kerberos to authenticate [02:45] are you? [02:46] on a windows active directory? [02:46] not on this server [02:46] hmm [02:46] not kerberos being used [02:46] but that is why I thought of that [02:46] cos a >5min clock shift will result in not being able to log in [02:47] heh, sometimes less then that [02:47] pygi: indeed [02:47] officially should be 5 [02:47] apparently [02:47] right [02:48] AD and my sambea server stop talking if it is greater then about 3 minutes [02:51] hehe === pygi waits for Scott [02:57] cbx33: Any thoughts on what else could cause logins to be rejected? [02:57] the username is valid [02:57] the password is valid [02:57] no not at all really [02:57] but it just bounces back to the username screen, like if you had entered an incorect username/password [02:57] unless there is another authentication mechanism being used [02:58] yes that's what I got too, but mine was a different issue [02:58] I didn't screw with anything dealing with auth [02:59] hrm [02:59] well I may have to run over their today, I will tail auth.log and see what I see [03:00] but from looking at the log it doesn't seem to show all of those failed attepmts [03:00] just the wrong username / password ones [03:00] rather get the ldm log from the client and file a bug with it :)= [03:01] is there a way to update the clients? [03:01] by that I mean /opt/ltsp/i386/ on the server [03:02] sure [03:02] sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ [03:02]