| Lure | uid is always 0, as we execute kdesu_stub as root and then stub actualy does the swith to appropriate user | 12:03 |
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| Riddell | oh, hmm, didn't realise that | 12:04 |
| Riddell | although that patch is as much for sudo as it is for kdesu | 12:04 |
| Lure | It took me almost an hour to realize that ;-) | 12:04 |
| Lure | .ICEauthoroty is for what? | 12:05 |
| Riddell | for authentication to ICE which is a communication protocol used by DCOP | 12:06 |
| Lure | ic, then I need to check the stub further to understand what dcop options do... I would not like to break something... | 12:07 |
| Riddell | the problem was that previously sudo kde programs would create ~/.ICEauthority files that were owned by root so then the user couldn't use ICE (and no DCOP == no KDE) | 12:09 |
| Lure | ok, that is right - but now we need to ensure that non-root users get their ICEauthority as they will otherwise fail (as they will not be able to modify it) | 12:10 |
| Lure | I mean the one on /root | 12:10 |
| Riddell | hah, that patch still has one of my silly debugging lines in it :) | 12:11 |
| Lure | Riddell: in any case, it makes sense that this setenv calls are moved to stub (when user is clear) | 12:12 |
| Lure | we just need to be sure that this is set soon enough - before any code gets executed that may mass with .kde or .IDEauthority | 12:12 |
| Riddell | it's in kapplication, the application must be called as the final user surely | 12:12 |
| Lure | Riddell: yes, you are right - at this point in time, we should be already running under right UID | 12:13 |
| Lure | so, if user luka starts app as user "miki", would you expect to use miki/.kde or luka/.kde? | 12:14 |
| Riddell | that's a good question, either is equally correct I'd say so long as it doesn't write any files as miki to ~luka | 12:15 |
| Lure | Riddell: you cannot guarantee this unless you change the env vars... | 12:16 |
| Riddell | yep | 12:16 |
| Lure | Riddell: it looks to me that Run As is not used a lot ;-) | 12:16 |
| Riddell | there's not much need to be another user, you may as well just be root | 12:17 |
| Lure | Riddell: and I am questining if we should fix it just before release (as the right fix might not be complely trivial) | 12:17 |
| Riddell | it would depend on the complexity of the fix yes | 12:18 |
| Lure | anyway, it was a long day, so I will look into this tommorow | 12:18 |
| Lure | I will try to get minimal change in, as I do not think we are ready for bigger surgeries (and I just have two evenings left before I leave for one week vacation) ;-) | 12:19 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Everyone should be on the look out for regressions w.r.t. buttons in systemsettngs. || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLinuxTag2006 || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUbiquity || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meetings in #ubuntu-meeting -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- Next meeting is 11/05/06 2100 UTC | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Wed May 3 13:56:43 2006 | ||
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| freeflying | anyone around? | 06:06 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I did the changes for systemsettings, but I'm looking if there are a few things to polish (desktop files etc....) | 09:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you will have the debdiff toonight | 09:09 |
| Hobbsee | someone poke me in 7 hours - dont let me forget about that meeting - unless you dont want me to turn up, of course :P | 09:13 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: knet was patched, has been tested by 3 guys, can I upload it and close the bug | 09:56 |
| Riddell | freeflying: sure | 09:57 |
| freeflying | Riddell: also there some lintian warnings, shall I correct htem too? | 09:58 |
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| Riddell | freeflying: only if they're important, otherwise that's just diverging from debian | 09:59 |
| freeflying | Riddell: okey,thx | 10:01 |
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| === Hobbsee whines at the problems with the flight 6... | ||
| Riddell | use flight 7? | 11:39 |
| Riddell | flight 6 is pre-beta | 11:39 |
| Hobbsee | i know. but it's the only cd that i had... | 11:39 |
| === Hobbsee wonders why the clock shows as 9.39am... | ||
| Riddell | it's on GMT? | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | i'll be intersted to see if xorg.conf updates itself... | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | it may well be | 11:40 |
| raphink | hi Riddell && Hobbsee | 11:46 |
| Hobbsee | hi raphink | 11:47 |
| Hobbsee | the topic is correct, and there really is a meeting tomorrow morning? | 11:48 |
| raphink | well tonight that is ;) | 11:49 |
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| Hobbsee | *growls* | 11:58 |
| Hobbsee | ndiswrapper for dapper is *still* screwed! | 11:58 |
| raphink | :( | 11:58 |
| Hobbsee | *goes to find latest compiled version* | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | er..cant compile it without being on the newest kernel. stupid hobbsee. | 12:09 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: skim in livecd still crash when log into desktop | 12:24 |
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| mornfall | moin | 12:29 |
| freeflying | mornfall: moin | 12:29 |
| Riddell | freeflying: how can I test that? | 12:30 |
| mornfall | i suppose someone should be elected to maintain skim in kubuntu who actually uses it ;-) | 12:30 |
| mornfall | System of a Down -- Toxicity | 12:31 |
| freeflying | Riddell: you's add CJK language support to the livecd, and choose zh_CN locales when you boot the livecd | 12:32 |
| Riddell | Lure: did you koffice changes get uploaded? | 12:33 |
| freeflying | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/197 --< another issue I've told you | 12:33 |
| Lure | Riddell: yes, by raphink | 12:34 |
| Lure | and kdesu fix too | 12:34 |
| raphink | and I'm building a fix for the kdesu msg | 12:34 |
| mornfall | something fixed in kdesu? :) | 12:34 |
| raphink | :) | 12:34 |
| raphink | mornfall: run as foo | 12:34 |
| raphink | kdesu -u | 12:34 |
| mornfall | aheh | 12:34 |
| raphink | bug had been around since breezy | 12:34 |
| === mornfall wants to get rid of kdesu for adept 3.0 ;-) | ||
| raphink | hehe | 12:35 |
| mornfall | because it's worth nothing but trouble | 12:35 |
| mornfall | it uses sudo -H in kubuntu right? | 12:35 |
| Riddell | mornfall: it uses sudo, and sudo is set to preserve home directory by default | 12:37 |
| Riddell | but kdelibs is patched to change that in KApplication | 12:37 |
| mornfall | ewgh | 12:37 |
| mornfall | no wonder it breaks ;P | 12:37 |
| Riddell | right, I need a translation from everyone, "Email File" in all the languages we have please | 12:38 |
| Riddell | mornfall, raphink, Lure, freeflying: can you put a translation of "Email File" for any languages you speak into a pastebin | 12:40 |
| raphink | sure | 12:40 |
| raphink | I'll begin | 12:40 |
| mornfall | Riddell: is it supposed to explicitly mention email or is "send" ok? | 12:41 |
| Riddell | mornfall: the action is sending by e-mail, if you think that's ok to be implicit then translate however you wish | 12:41 |
| raphink | in french they often say "send file" | 12:42 |
| raphink | which is explicit | 12:42 |
| freeflying | Riddell: only "Email File" , two words? | 12:42 |
| mornfall | i have no idea about context | 12:42 |
| Riddell | freeflying: yes | 12:42 |
| Riddell | mornfall: context is a right click konqueror action | 12:42 |
| raphink | I thoguht there was a plugin in konqueror that said "Email File" | 12:43 |
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| mornfall | is there an utf8-enabled pastebin? :) | 12:44 |
| Riddell | raphink: don't think so, that's why we've added one | 12:44 |
| Riddell | mornfall: kubuntu.pastebin.com ? | 12:44 |
| freeflying | mornfall: paste.ubuntu.org.cn | 12:44 |
| freeflying | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/198 done translation | 12:44 |
| mornfall | i tried pastebin com and it broke | 12:44 |
| raphink | ./kdebase-3.5.2/kate/app/katemailfilesdialog.cpp: : KDialogBase( parent, "kate mail dialog", true, i18n("Email Files"), | 12:45 |
| freeflying | mornfall: ours maybe the first one support utf8, heh | 12:45 |
| raphink | maybe this translation can be used | 12:45 |
| raphink | Riddell: wouldn't that be fine? | 12:46 |
| mornfall | Riddell: umm, location->send file something wrong with that? | 12:46 |
| mornfall | Riddell: other than it's not in context menu? (but context menu action should have same text as normal menu right?) | 12:46 |
| mornfall | Lacuna Coil -- Aeon | 12:48 |
| Riddell | running location->send file from ~ seems to be crunching my harddisk a lot | 12:48 |
| Riddell | raphink: should be if you want to extract all the po files with svn2dist | 12:48 |
| raphink | Riddell: well that'll still be faster than asking 300 people to translate | 12:49 |
| Riddell | true | 12:49 |
| mornfall | Riddell: i have selected file, it tried to open kmail composer | 12:49 |
| mornfall | Riddell: the point is that the menu text should be same for same things and you shouldn't need new translations that way | 12:50 |
| Riddell | I think konqueror is now trying to send every file below my home directory, this could take a while | 12:50 |
| mornfall | (tried, but my kmail is so crippled it can't open it :p) | 12:50 |
| Riddell | any volunteers to extract all the konqueror .po files? | 12:51 |
| raphink | is someone able to see orange.fr properly with firefox ? | 12:52 |
| raphink | :s :s | 12:52 |
| mornfall | don't have ffox :] | 12:52 |
| raphink | mornfall: hehe | 12:52 |
| Riddell | works in konqueror | 12:52 |
| raphink | I just use it when konqueror doesn't work | 12:52 |
| raphink | and in this case some functions on the webiste don't work with konqui | 12:52 |
| raphink | but then with firefox it doesn't even show the page | 12:53 |
| mornfall | heh | 12:53 |
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| klugez | my firefox opened it partially and then froze | 12:54 |
| raphink | mine shows it as an xml file | 12:55 |
| raphink | without interpreting it | 12:55 |
| mornfall | i can recall exactly one website that wouldn't work in konqueror and trying ffox would fix it | 12:55 |
| mornfall | and one that would work in neither and using opera would fix it | 12:56 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: after restart kdm, skim can work | 12:58 |
| freeflying | Riddell: it's so strange | 12:58 |
| Riddell | freeflying: on live CD? | 12:58 |
| freeflying | Riddell: y | 12:59 |
| Riddell | freeflying: how do you restart kdm on the live CD? | 01:00 |
| freeflying | Riddell: in tty1 using sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart | 01:01 |
| Riddell | freeflying: and you install skim on tty1 as well? | 01:01 |
| freeflying | Riddell: no, skim is in livecd | 01:02 |
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| raphink | uploading kdebase :) | 01:10 |
| Riddell | raphink: what's the change? | 01:10 |
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| raphink | Riddell: now that kdesu is fixed in kdelibs, I just patched a condition in kdebase so it shows the right message when it's using su instead of sudo | 01:10 |
| raphink | for run as foo | 01:10 |
| raphink | so it shows "enter password for user foo" in this case instead of "enter your password" | 01:11 |
| raphink | ;) | 01:11 |
| Riddell | groovy | 01:11 |
| raphink | just tested it and uploading | 01:11 |
| raphink | :)http://www.orness.fr/images/orness_top_small.png | 01:11 |
| raphink | oopsd | 01:11 |
| raphink | sorry | 01:11 |
| raphink | slipped on the keyboard ;) | 01:12 |
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| PascalFR_ | Hello, i'm looking for confirmation on dapper bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg/+bug/37992 | 02:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 37992 in xserver-xorg "ksnapshot unusable in area mode with xinerama " [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 02:19 |
| Riddell | seaLne is our multihead dude (although not xinerama as I remember) | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | okay...what the *hell* happened to sound recently??? argh!!!1 | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | alsa is sounding TERRIBLE! | 02:25 |
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| kwwii | moin | 02:28 |
| kwwii | raphink: http://bootsplash.org/lt.ogg | 02:28 |
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| mutantx | Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone can help on how I would go about taking 2 dsl lines and combine them under linux | 02:35 |
| Riddell | mutantx: wrong channel | 02:37 |
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| raphink | kwwii: seems you had fun filming ;) | 02:40 |
| kwwii | raphink: I love cameras :-) | 02:41 |
| raphink | :) | 02:41 |
| raphink | how come zeroconf:/ only lists VNC shares in konqueror? | 02:44 |
| raphink | shouldn't it list ftp, sftp, fish, http aswell ? | 02:44 |
| Riddell | are there .desktop files for those? | 02:45 |
| raphink | ah | 02:45 |
| raphink | dunno | 02:45 |
| raphink | I remember it used to work | 02:45 |
| raphink | that's why I'm wondering | 02:45 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: here is a problem, the stuff that I have made for kubuntu is all svg based, and no office suite can import it | 03:10 |
| kwwii | Riddell: so can I put a couple of SVGs in as well? | 03:11 |
| Riddell | kwwii: what stuff? | 03:11 |
| kwwii | Riddell: the leaflet, for instance | 03:11 |
| kwwii | Riddell: or the banner | 03:11 |
| Riddell | the leaflet is SVG? | 03:13 |
| Riddell | but sure, putting SVGs in is fine | 03:13 |
| Riddell | assuming we're talking about example-content | 03:13 |
| kwwii | cool | 03:13 |
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| kwwii | I am going to whip up a few OO templates too, of course | 03:14 |
| Riddell | good morning Hobbsee | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | machine not killed :D | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | hi Riddell | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | ooh crud...i almost forgot to email dholbach those dh_iconcache fixes.. | 03:15 |
| abattoir | why does "Configuring gnome-panel-data" come up when Kubuntu boots? ;) | 03:16 |
| abattoir | dapper flight7 live cd... | 03:16 |
| Riddell | abattoir: we use the same scripts (casper), I presume that one just fails politely | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: would you have any clue why my sound sounds flat? | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | only some of the time - seems to be with the alsa engine | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | i've never had this before, and my sound card hasnt changed | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | seems kde based... | 03:24 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: nothing should have changed recently in KDE | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm....how odd... | 03:25 |
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| abattoir | Riddell: oh, ok... i get 'ok' though, if that's what you meant... | 03:27 |
| Riddell | like I say, polite :) | 03:28 |
| abattoir | Riddell: oh, I thought it would say 'failed'... ok thanks :) | 03:28 |
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| freeflying | seaLne: ping | 03:34 |
| seaLne | freeflying: pong | 03:35 |
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| freeflying | seaLne: done with tranlsation | 03:35 |
| seaLne | freeflying: cool | 03:36 |
| freeflying | seaLne: can we provide thsoe translated interview magzine? | 03:36 |
| seaLne | freeflying: sorry not sure what you mean? | 03:37 |
| freeflying | seaLne: I mean can we give those translated intevews to local printed magzine? | 03:37 |
| seaLne | freeflying: hmmm let me have a think about that, poke me if i haven't got back to you | 03:38 |
| seaLne | freeflying: do you have a specific in mind or just in general | 03:39 |
| freeflying | seaLne: okey | 03:39 |
| freeflying | seaLne: general | 03:39 |
| seaLne | k | 03:39 |
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| Riddell | hmm, http://www.google.com/trends?q=kubuntu%2C+ubuntu&ctab=0&date=all&geo=all | 04:03 |
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| jjesse | thats intresteing | 04:06 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: pm? | 04:06 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: sure | 04:06 |
| abattoir | heh, Kubuntu seems to be very popular in Scandinavia... | 04:07 |
| abattoir | oh my mistake... it was ubuntu not kubuntu :( ... misinterpretation of the graph | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 04:09 |
| abattoir | it'd be fun to do a distro-smackdown this way :D | 04:09 |
| abattoir | more interesting.... | 04:10 |
| abattoir | http://www.google.com/trends?q=kubuntu%2C+ubuntu%2C+mandriva%2C+suse&ctab=0&date=all&geo=all | 04:10 |
| MidMark | yeah Italy fifth! | 04:10 |
| imbrandon | heh kubuntu needs a little more ground there ;) | 04:11 |
| abattoir | and publicity too :) | 04:11 |
| imbrandon | yea ; | 04:11 |
| Riddell | raphink: do you have anything else advertised? | 04:20 |
| mornfall | oh my https://launchpad.net/bugs/44202 | 04:24 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 44202 in ept "Adept wastes bandwidth" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:24 |
| mornfall | gigabytes a day | 04:24 |
| mornfall | ey yey | 04:24 |
| === Hobbsee splutters, after actually reading the bug report | ||
| Hobbsee | enjoy replying to that one :P | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | besides the !repos command has the deb-src lines commented out | 04:25 |
| mornfall | i will need a bug-filtering department | 04:31 |
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| insanekane | Riddell: you know, just having skim in the installation doesn't make sense ... you need at minimum scim-tables-additional ... but the issue with that is that it depends on scim ... | 04:38 |
| Riddell | I've never needed that package as far as I know | 04:38 |
| insanekane | Riddell: also, scim-tables source has the skim SetupUI disabled | 04:39 |
| insanekane | Riddell: well, without it, whats the point of Skim ? Raw Code IME ? | 04:39 |
| insanekane | the only other useful library for skim would be libkmfl ... but i dont think it has been packaged for Debian/Kubuntu | 04:40 |
| Huahua | hello, Riddell | 04:40 |
| Huahua | Riddell: I found fuse_kio in http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=KIO+Fuse+Gateway . | 04:40 |
| insanekane | Riddell: scim-tables allows people to type indic languages among others | 04:40 |
| Huahua | it possible to mount ioslaves and make them this way available to all linux apps. | 04:41 |
| Huahua | It can make the apps which don't support KDE ioslaves can work on KDE better. | 04:41 |
| freeflying | insanekane: what's the problem with skim and scim-tables | 04:42 |
| freeflying | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/joelbryan?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Screenshot-Ubuntu+Welcome+Center.png | 04:44 |
| insanekane | freeflying: installing scim-tables brings scim too ... a menu entry is added called SCIM Input Method Setup (a duplication of the Skim Configuration dialog). Also, the scim-tables has the Skim SetupUI disabled (!?!) ... so you can administer tables only in the GNOME interface, and not in Skim | 04:44 |
| insanekane | freeflying: menu entry = K -> Settings -> SCIM Input Method Setup | 04:45 |
| freeflying | insanekane: it's a known issue | 04:45 |
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| insanekane | freeflying: ok, just reporting it again | 04:45 |
| mornfall | "ubuntu welcome center" i can't think of a much lamer name :P | 04:46 |
| freeflying | insanekane: as for the skim support of scim-tables, the maintainer working ont it | 04:46 |
| freeflying | mornfall: it's win's style heh | 04:46 |
| insanekane | freeflying: maybe the scim-table-module shouldn't depend on scim ... and only on libscim ? | 04:46 |
| freeflying | insanekane: I've tested this before, there will be problems if we just use libscim for skim | 04:47 |
| freeflying | insanekane: anyway you can file a bug on the skim support in scim-tables, maybe we can have exception | 04:48 |
| Riddell | insanekane: the required parts should all be brought in by language-support-xx | 04:51 |
| Riddell | Huahua: is there a package? | 04:51 |
| allee | Riddell: kde-guidance: please add Homepage: http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance to long description | 04:51 |
| Huahua | Riddell: no | 04:52 |
| Riddell | Huahua: fancy making one? :) | 04:52 |
| Riddell | allee: asking Fathi will probably be quicker than asking me | 04:53 |
| allee | Riddell: it's in alioth already. Do you still sync with it? | 04:54 |
| Riddell | allee: oh cool, I've not really been syncing no | 04:54 |
| Riddell | syncing is for after dapper | 04:54 |
| allee | yeah, and you had already 0kubuntu1. That's why I ping you :) | 04:55 |
| insanekane | Riddell: either way, one shouldn't have to install gtk etc, just to get scim-tables working on Kubuntu :) | 04:56 |
| insanekane | freeflying: exception ? | 04:56 |
| Riddell | insanekane: if it needs scim there's not much I can do | 04:57 |
| insanekane | freeflying: you mean, there are more similiar things ? | 04:57 |
| insanekane | Riddell: it doesnt | 04:57 |
| freeflying | insanekane: the skim support in scim-tables mean new feature, but now we are in deep freeze | 04:57 |
| insanekane | freeflying: heh, thats funny | 04:58 |
| freeflying | insanekane: release candidate is coming | 04:58 |
| insanekane | Riddell: only one .so in that package requires gtk .. and that should anyway be installed in a seperate package ... like scim-tables-setupui-gtk ... or something like that | 04:59 |
| kwwii | ok, check out: http://bootsplash.org/00-presenting-kubuntu.odp | 05:01 |
| kwwii | I took the ubuntu presentation and kinda tweaked the design | 05:01 |
| kwwii | (there are still lots of gnome screens, etc.) | 05:01 |
| freeflying | kwwii: 404 ERROR | 05:04 |
| kwwii | erm, small OO | 05:05 |
| kwwii | http://bootsplash.org/oo-presenting-kubuntu.odp | 05:05 |
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| kwwii | hehe, krita has endian problems | 05:10 |
| freeflying | kwwii: still can not be downloaded | 05:10 |
| kwwii | freeflying: yeah, funky...let me check | 05:11 |
| Riddell | 16:08:14 ERROR 403: Forbidden. | 05:11 |
| kwwii | ahhh, yeah, it had the rights from the orig in /usr/share/ | 05:12 |
| kwwii | now it should work | 05:13 |
| raphink | Riddell: what do you mean? | 05:18 |
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| freeflying | kwwii: it's for kubuntu or ubuntu, heh | 05:20 |
| raphink | kwwii: why is your presentation showing gnome? | 05:21 |
| raphink | kwwii: btw, the source of my talk is http://raphink.info/talks/2006/05-LinuxTag/ | 05:21 |
| OdyX | kwwii: could you finally transform your video or is ffmpeg2theora still broken ? | 05:21 |
| kwwii | as I mentioned, it is the gnome presentation, with a few design changes | 05:21 |
| raphink | ah ok | 05:22 |
| kwwii | OdyX: http://bootsplash.org/lt.ogg | 05:22 |
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| kwwii | I need to add screenshots, change text, etc. | 05:22 |
| kwwii | but is it worth it? do you think it is good enough? | 05:22 |
| OdyX | kwwii: fine! So? Complicated ? | 05:22 |
| OdyX | ;-) | 05:22 |
| kwwii | OdyX: well, it did not scale it like it said it would | 05:22 |
| kwwii | but otherwise, very simple | 05:22 |
| Riddell | raphink: about what? | 05:23 |
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| raphink | [16:20] <Riddell> raphink: do you have anything else advertised? | 05:23 |
| superstoned | kwwii: polyester? does it stand a chance? and rounding top corners window decoration... | 05:23 |
| raphink | brb | 05:24 |
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| kwwii | superstoned: for this release, I guess not | 05:27 |
| Riddell | raphink: I have no memory of saying that, nor any idea why I did | 05:28 |
| raphink | ah ok | 05:28 |
| raphink | well nm then ;) | 05:28 |
| raphink | ok "run as foo" is fixed | 05:28 |
| Riddell | cool, thanks guys | 05:28 |
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| bddebian | Howdy folks | 05:28 |
| Riddell | good afternoon bddebian | 05:28 |
| raphink | hi bddebian | 05:28 |
| MidMark | guys but kernel now for smp and non-smp are unified in the same kernel? | 05:28 |
| bddebian | Does kdepim have it's own filters or does it use kmails? | 05:29 |
| raphink | and avahi just needs settings to work fine | 05:29 |
| raphink | but I can't find where to tell it to publish some services by default | 05:29 |
| raphink | I have to keep searching cause this is very interesting :) | 05:29 |
| Riddell | bddebian: filters for what? | 05:29 |
| bddebian | Sorry, message filters | 05:29 |
| bddebian | I'm trying to look at this: Bug #39944 | 05:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 39944 in kdepim "Set filters are ineffective" [Normal,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39944 | 05:30 |
| Riddell | bddebian: I think that just means kmail's e-mail filters | 05:30 |
| Riddell | kmail is part of kdepim | 05:30 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: krita is useless on ppc, endianess problems screw up colors and alpha values | 05:34 |
| raphink | zeroconf is wonderful :) | 05:36 |
| === raphink just created a fish settings for zeroconf and it works great :) | ||
| Riddell | kwwii: tell it to boud | 05:36 |
| Riddell | who probably can't fix it since he doesn't have a ppc | 05:36 |
| bddebian | Where are KDE upstream bugs? | 05:37 |
| Riddell | bugs.kde.org | 05:37 |
| freeflying | raphink: have a look at this http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=KIO+Fuse+Gateway | 05:38 |
| bddebian | Thx Riddell | 05:38 |
| raphink | freeflying: what for? | 05:38 |
| kwwii | Riddell: yeah, I'll do that...but for now "example-content" will not have any pics to edit in kde because of that | 05:39 |
| freeflying | raphink: a user system | 05:39 |
| bddebian | Boy is that site freakin' slow :( | 05:40 |
| raphink | I know FUSE freeflying | 05:42 |
| freeflying | raphink: it's will be useful for all applications | 05:43 |
| raphink | sure | 05:43 |
| raphink | klik devs might be interested in this kio | 05:43 |
| raphink | in particular | 05:43 |
| freeflying | how about klik now? | 05:44 |
| raphink | how do you mean? | 05:44 |
| raphink | klik 2.0 uses FUSE | 05:45 |
| raphink | and having a fuse kio might be a good news for them ;) | 05:45 |
| freeflying | can klik be used now? | 05:45 |
| raphink | sure | 05:45 |
| raphink | but it's not in dapper | 05:45 |
| raphink | and it won't be | 05:45 |
| raphink | we're working on having it ready for egy | 05:45 |
| raphink | edgy | 05:45 |
| freeflying | I prepare include it into my livecd, heh | 05:46 |
| raphink | kanotix has it | 05:47 |
| raphink | so you should ask them ;) | 05:47 |
| kwwii | is there a pop-up for the adept-notifier? | 06:01 |
| kwwii | I am making screens for the example presentation | 06:01 |
| raphink | no there's no popup that I know of | 06:02 |
| raphink | Riddell: is it fine according to you if I add some protocols to rezoconf in kde ? | 06:02 |
| raphink | like fish and sftp, very useful ;) | 06:02 |
| Riddell | raphink: sure | 06:02 |
| Riddell | someone (lure?) already did that but I lost the patch | 06:03 |
| raphink | ok | 06:03 |
| raphink | ah | 06:03 |
| Riddell | raphink: make sure they don't clash with anything | 06:03 |
| raphink | what other protocols might I add that would be useful ? | 06:03 |
| raphink | no they won't | 06:03 |
| raphink | I've tested around | 06:03 |
| raphink | it's only small text files that enable protocol recognition for services announced by an avahi server on the network | 06:03 |
| marseillai | raphink: nfs if possible .... | 06:04 |
| raphink | hmmm | 06:04 |
| raphink | nfs is already there ;) | 06:05 |
| raphink | no need to add it | 06:05 |
| marseillai | IM possible ? | 06:05 |
| raphink | IM ? | 06:05 |
| raphink | comment a ? | 06:05 |
| marseillai | instant messenger | 06:06 |
| marseillai | kopete contact ? | 06:06 |
| raphink | that's not peer to peer | 06:06 |
| marseillai | dono if it's already possible | 06:06 |
| Riddell | freeflying: better? http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/ubiquity.png | 06:06 |
| raphink | so it can't be announced by a local server | 06:06 |
| freeflying | Riddell: fine, thx | 06:06 |
| marseillai | raphink: yes it can! bonjour does it! and kopete will normaly do that! but dono if it already does! | 06:07 |
| raphink | bonjour is P2P | 06:07 |
| raphink | ok | 06:07 |
| raphink | well when I know kopete is doing it that'll be great | 06:07 |
| raphink | but so far I don't think it does | 06:07 |
| === marseillai will ask right now | ||
| raphink | Riddell: whatt is the best in your opinion? (1) adding the files as a patch and patching the Makefile (2) adding the files as a patch and installing from kdnssd.install (3) adding the files in debian and installing from kdnssd.install | 06:09 |
| raphink | ? ;) | 06:09 |
| Riddell | raphink: depends if upstream can take them | 06:12 |
| === Riddell asks | ||
| raphink | imo they should | 06:14 |
| raphink | then also it seems kdnssd doesn't depend on avahi-daemon | 06:15 |
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| JakubS_ | hello | 06:15 |
| raphink | but it can't be used without it | 06:15 |
| bddebian | Hello JakubS_ | 06:15 |
| raphink | hi JakubS_ | 06:15 |
| JakubS_ | someone wanted to add ssh .desktop file for zeroconf:/ ioslave? | 06:15 |
| raphink | JakubS_: yep, me :) | 06:16 |
| raphink | I'd like to add at least ssh and fish | 06:16 |
| raphink | well fish and sftp sorry | 06:16 |
| raphink | ssh is already there | 06:16 |
| JakubS_ | yeah, that's why i was quite surprised :-) | 06:16 |
| raphink | hehe | 06:17 |
| raphink | no it's just fish and sftp :) | 06:17 |
| raphink | fish just needs to be a copy of _ssh._tcp named _fish._tcp | 06:17 |
| raphink | and sftp a copy of ftp | 06:17 |
| raphink | well with the name and description changed that's about it | 06:17 |
| raphink | but its useful, all the more that konqui can use both | 06:18 |
| raphink | and then I'd like to ship an SSH service group with avahi-daemon | 06:18 |
| raphink | that would provide ssh, fish and sftp altogether | 06:18 |
| raphink | :) | 06:18 |
| Riddell | raphink: what's one of them? | 06:18 |
| raphink | Riddell: sorry? | 06:18 |
| Riddell | what's a service group? | 06:19 |
| raphink | oh sorry | 06:19 |
| raphink | a service group is a file you can set for avahi-deamon | 06:19 |
| raphink | that gathers several services to be announced by the avahi-daemon server at launch | 06:19 |
| kwwii | ok, the final version is ready...http://bootsplash.org/oo-presenting-kubuntu.odp | 06:19 |
| raphink | in this case, it would be announcing ssh, fish and sftp altogether | 06:19 |
| raphink | which is pretty logical | 06:19 |
| JakubS_ | raphink: if you just rename _ssh._tcp to _fish._tcp and change stuff it won't work unless ssh server announces _fish._tcp service type | 06:19 |
| JakubS_ | file name is used to find correct service definition - in this case _ssh._tcp | 06:20 |
| raphink | JakubS_: well it does | 06:20 |
| raphink | since fish IS graphical ssh | 06:20 |
| raphink | I've tested what i'm talking about ;) | 06:20 |
| raphink | and fish works great this way | 06:20 |
| raphink | let me show you | 06:21 |
| JakubS_ | hm, someone made patch for sshd to announce all that stuff or you have to avahi and static service file? | 06:21 |
| raphink | http://pastebin.com/711704 | 06:21 |
| raphink | this is what I use | 06:21 |
| raphink | then I announce fish on port 22 | 06:21 |
| raphink | like | 06:21 |
| raphink | avahi-publish "My fish" _fish._tcp 22 & | 06:22 |
| raphink | and it works | 06:22 |
| Riddell | kwwii: rocking | 06:22 |
| kwwii | :-) | 06:22 |
| JakubS_ | raphink: makes sense | 06:22 |
| raphink | JakubS_: same for sfpt, using the ftp one as model | 06:22 |
| raphink | so | 06:23 |
| raphink | http://pastebin.com/711706 | 06:23 |
| raphink | announcing on port 22 aswell | 06:23 |
| raphink | so I publish ssh, sftp and fish on port 22 | 06:23 |
| raphink | possible even with different names | 06:23 |
| raphink | and it works great | 06:23 |
| raphink | great work kwwii :) | 06:24 |
| raphink | JakubS_: that's why I'm proposing to include these by default | 06:24 |
| raphink | since it's very useful :) | 06:24 |
| JakubS_ | Riddell: it can go to trunk i think | 06:25 |
| raphink | more could | 06:26 |
| raphink | imo | 06:26 |
| raphink | Riddell: and this http://pastebin.com/711712 is a service-group | 06:27 |
| raphink | as I was telling you about | 06:27 |
| raphink | I just wrote it for SSH | 06:27 |
| raphink | so my server automatically announce these services on the local network | 06:27 |
| marseillai | raphink: print-share is announce? | 06:28 |
| raphink | announce is avahi-publish | 06:28 |
| raphink | if you do it manually | 06:28 |
| raphink | otherwise, services described in /etc/avahi/services/ are announced when the server starts | 06:28 |
| raphink | now I'm also concerned by the fact that _service._tcp|udp files should be translated just as .desktop | 06:29 |
| raphink | and they don't seem to be currently | 06:29 |
| raphink | JakubS_: so will you add them? | 06:42 |
| JakubS_ | yes | 06:43 |
| raphink | JakubS_: good :) | 06:45 |
| raphink | I'm doing one for ipp aswell | 06:46 |
| raphink | http://pastebin.com/711734 | 06:46 |
| raphink | I'm not sure it's very useful | 06:46 |
| raphink | I can't get to find what else to do with an ipp | 06:47 |
| JakubS_ | well, cups does browsing by itself just fine | 06:47 |
| raphink | yes that's right :) | 06:47 |
| raphink | but it's useful if you can have the list of available cups servers on the network | 06:48 |
| raphink | in zeroconf:/ | 06:48 |
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| kwwii | ok, so I have the leaflet and the presentation for "example-content", any other ideas of what to include? | 07:11 |
| jjesse | kwwii: can i send you a private message? | 07:14 |
| kwwii | jjesse: sure :-) | 07:14 |
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| OculusAquilae | Riddell: ping | 07:33 |
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| bddebian | OK, how/where do I get korn? I don't see anything when right-clicking on e-mails etc? | 07:47 |
| Tonio_ | hey all | 07:48 |
| OculusAquilae | hi | 07:48 |
| bddebian | Hi Tonio_ | 07:48 |
| kwwii | ok, aside from the presentation, here are the files I will include in example-content if possible: | 07:49 |
| Tonio_ | any volunteer to test new kde-systemsettings ? | 07:49 |
| kwwii | http://bootsplash.org/leaflet.svg http://bootsplash.org/dapper_wallpaper.xcf | 07:49 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: 404 | 07:50 |
| kwwii | damn, today is not my day for naming | 07:50 |
| kwwii | kubuntu_leaflet.svg | 07:50 |
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| OculusAquilae | Tonio_: packages? | 07:51 |
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| kwwii | oh, and here is the latest version of that bg: http://bootsplash.org/testbg.png | 07:52 |
| kwwii | Riddell: check out that bg and tell me what you think | 07:53 |
| kwwii | anyone feel free to correct the english in the leaflet :-) | 07:56 |
| === kwwii spams the devel channel with artwork :-) | ||
| Tonio_ | kwwii: that's better ;) | 07:57 |
| === OdyX like kwwii's work ;-) | ||
| kwwii | ;-) | 07:58 |
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| uniq_ | riddell: could you please give a comment with your opinion on: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/krusader/+bug/42637 | 08:02 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42637 in krusader "[UNIVERSE] UVF Exception request 1.60.1 -> 1.70.0" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 08:02 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: what have you been doing to systemsettings? (I'm debugging it right now BTW) | 08:04 |
| bddebian | Does anyone have a sec to explain this one to me? Bug #34381 | 08:04 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 34381 in kdepim "Dapper - Korn - Unable to delete email after right-click->view email" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/34381 | 08:04 |
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| Tonio_ | _Sime: reorganizing some sections | 08:05 |
| _Sime | ok | 08:06 |
| _Sime | I'm working in kcmultiwidget.cpp. | 08:06 |
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| Lure | kwwii: new adept notifier icons is even better (alert sign on bottom) | 08:35 |
| kwwii | Lure: thanks :-) | 08:35 |
| Lure | Dapper will really be a nice release... | 08:36 |
| kwwii | hopefully :-) | 08:36 |
| cmvo | kwwii: Hi! Latest background looks good! (Not that the others didn't :-) | 08:37 |
| bddebian | How about this one? I don't even see a "Local Network Browsing" option?? Bug #42166 | 08:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42166 in kdenetwork "kcmkiolan and kcmlisa missing" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42166 | 08:38 |
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| kmon | hi | 08:39 |
| cmvo | kwwii: How about some blueish backgrounds for kdm and the desktop splash? | 08:39 |
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| bddebian | Hello kmon | 08:46 |
| kmon | hi bddebian | 08:46 |
| kmon | I've just responded to the kdm cursor bug | 08:46 |
| bddebian | You still have it? | 08:46 |
| kmon | and changed it to fix | 08:46 |
| bddebian | Ah great | 08:46 |
| kmon | yes, but in my kdm modified theme | 08:47 |
| kmon | so there's something wrong in my customized files... | 08:47 |
| bddebian | Know anything about this one? Bug #42166 | 08:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42166 in kdenetwork "kcmkiolan and kcmlisa missing" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42166 | 08:47 |
| bddebian | I don't even have a "Local Network Browsing" option? | 08:48 |
| kmon | I would like some feedback on bug 44247 | 08:48 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 44247 in kdenetwork "Duplicated functionality: There are 2 wifi configuration apps: Kwifimanager & wlassistant" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/44247 | 08:48 |
| bddebian | kmon: Sorry I can't help with that one, I'm not one of the kubuntu core folks :-( | 08:49 |
| kmon | but you can confirm it :) | 08:49 |
| bddebian | Is wlassistant working? (I don't have wireless on my kubuntu install) | 08:49 |
| kmon | i'm using knetworkmanager | 08:50 |
| kmon | since I'm on wpa | 08:50 |
| kmon | I have 3 network config tools... no, wait, 4 | 08:50 |
| kmon | counting the non-wifi one | 08:50 |
| kmon | :) | 08:50 |
| kmon | I really hope networkmanager get in shape someday... | 08:51 |
| bddebian | Hideous | 08:51 |
| kmon | anyone knows which kde devs are going to be invited to the paris summit? | 08:53 |
| kmon | or that's something only mark knows... | 08:53 |
| JakubS_ | kmon: what is wrong with networkmanager? | 08:54 |
| kmon | JakubS_: apparently it doesn't support static addressing | 08:54 |
| JakubS_ | you are right, dhcp only :-( | 08:54 |
| JakubS_ | good thing all network i use have working dhcp | 08:55 |
| kmon | I have one server here with static address | 08:55 |
| kmon | so no networkmanager goodness | 08:55 |
| kmon | but my laptop is using it | 08:56 |
| bddebian | Hmm, I guess I'm going to have to give up on kubuntu bugs for today | 09:02 |
| Lure | bddebian: why? you are doing great... ;-) | 09:03 |
| bddebian | Lure: Becuase no one is answering my dumb questions :-) Though I just figured out the local network browsing one myself :) | 09:03 |
| === Lure looking back the log.... | ||
| Lure | bddebian: raphink did the lisa changes, therefore you may assign this one to him | 09:05 |
| bddebian | Lure: Thx. How about this one? Bug #34381 | 09:05 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 34381 in kdepim "Dapper - Korn - Unable to delete email after right-click->view email" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/34381 | 09:05 |
| Lure | regarding kwifimanager/wlassistant you probably need to poke Riddell or Tonio_ what was the plan (I would expect that kwifimanager would go) | 09:05 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: it is supposed to... the dependancy should be removed from kubuntu-desktop | 09:07 |
| Lure | bddebian: first heard of korn - since it is universe it is probably not the top priority... | 09:07 |
| bddebian | HEY, don't be dissing my Universe ;-) | 09:08 |
| Lure | bddebian: I would assign it to Riddell, as I do not know anybody else is supposed to mess with kubuntu-desktop dependancies... | 09:08 |
| Lure | bddebian: the above is about kwifimanager and not korn ;-) | 09:09 |
| bddebian | Aye :) | 09:09 |
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| dereks | hey, i am trying to upgrade from breezy to dapper and it isn't going well :(. My sources.list is found at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13799 the output of my dist-upgrade is at: http://slovin.us/test and when i just try to install kubuntu-desktop i get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13796 | 09:17 |
| dereks | sorry to ask in here, not sure if its a bug or not and no one in #kubuntu or #ubuntu+1 knew | 09:18 |
| bddebian | dereks: You did apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade? | 09:19 |
| bddebian | Hmm, actually what is the issue? | 09:20 |
| dereks | bddebian: yeah | 09:20 |
| dereks | bddebian: it wants to remove kde + a lot of other things | 09:21 |
| dereks | look at http://slovin.us/test | 09:21 |
| bddebian | Yeah I noticed that but I thought it was going to install them, but looking now, it does look strange | 09:22 |
| Lure | dereks: this does not look good... I did upgrade only once (early in Dapper) | 09:22 |
| dereks | heh | 09:22 |
| dereks | do my sources seem right? | 09:22 |
| dereks | that was all i could think of | 09:22 |
| bddebian | Does sources.list require the trailing / ? | 09:23 |
| bddebian | It's missing on a few? | 09:23 |
| dereks | bddebian: i didn't think so | 09:23 |
| dereks | the one i based mine off of is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 | 09:24 |
| dereks | well losely based :) | 09:24 |
| dereks | actually, i hadn't changed that part from breezy anyways, so it shouldn't make a difference | 09:25 |
| bddebian | You didn't get any 404 errors or anything from apt-get update right? | 09:25 |
| dereks | no | 09:25 |
| bddebian | Weird | 09:26 |
| dereks | bddebian: not really the thing i want to hear :) | 09:27 |
| dereks | bddebian: any ideas of what i can test/play with? | 09:32 |
| Lure | dereks: I heard lots about update-manager that was supposed to enhance upgrade experience | 09:33 |
| Lure | not sure how it can be used though | 09:33 |
| dereks | Lure: i run this more or less headless | 09:33 |
| dereks | brb | 09:35 |
| raphink | kwwii: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/27276 | 09:37 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 27276 in kubuntu-default-settings "kdm default theme on breezy/dapper looks amateurish" [Normal,Confirmed] | 09:37 |
| raphink | :( | 09:37 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: I just committed a fix for the button problem in kde-ss. | 09:41 |
| Lure | raphink: that is old bug, so I suspect it is not taking into account new work from kwwii | 09:41 |
| Lure | I would close it as Fix Released ;-) | 09:42 |
| kwwii | well, the kdm buttons I made do need to be updated | 09:43 |
| raphink | ah sorry Lure I hadn't seen | 09:43 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: can you send me the fix ? | 09:43 |
| Tonio_ | I'll merge with my patches | 09:43 |
| OdyX | Who cares about documentation (desktopguide) ? | 09:44 |
| _Sime | why don't you just commit your stuff to KDE's svn and then release from svn? | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | I don't have access and riddell prefers me to release a 0ubutu2 version | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | I will apply to svn I assume | 09:44 |
| OdyX | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kubuntu-docs/+pots/desktopguide/fr/+translate?offset=370 <- Look item 380, what should be done ? | 09:44 |
| bddebian | Egads: Bug #35995 | 09:45 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 35995 in kdebase "kio_tar and kio_zip not used automatically" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35995 | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | s/I will/he will | 09:45 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: you can grab the new kcmultiwidget.cpp and kcmultiwidget.h file via KDE's webcvs site. | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I will just send him patches and then maybe he can release from svn, that's probably the best thing to do | 09:45 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: Riddel usually releases from out of svn. | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | since there will certainly be a new package from svn before release | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: yes I know | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I'll send him the patches, he will know what to do with it ;) | 09:47 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/systemsettings/ | 09:47 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: you can grab the files from there. | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: thanks | 09:47 |
| Lure | Is meeting at 21 UTC (as channel topic claims) or 22 UTC (as wiki claims)?? | 09:52 |
| OdyX | 21 GMT ? ;-) | 09:53 |
| kwwii | ? | 09:55 |
| kwwii | the wiki says 22 UTC | 09:56 |
| Lure | Tonio_: can you do these improvements or is it too late - bug 42487 and bug 42486 | 09:57 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42487 in kdepim "More Kontact defaults could be a lot friendlier" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42487 | 09:57 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42486 in kdepim "Kontact defaults could be a lot friendlier" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42486 | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: that can still be done I assume :) | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | added to todo list for "in an hour" ;) | 09:58 |
| Lure | great | 09:58 |
| kmon | I imagine kubuntu won't ship kde 3.5.3 | 09:59 |
| Lure | kmon: it will, but not with dapper ;-) | 09:59 |
| kmon | :) | 10:00 |
| kmon | there's a new feature | 10:00 |
| kmon | which speeds up startup | 10:00 |
| OdyX | Lure: even with kubuntu.org/.../kde-latest ? | 10:00 |
| kmon | maybe it would be nice to look at it | 10:00 |
| kmon | and if it's safe | 10:00 |
| kmon | backport it | 10:00 |
| Lure | OdyX: I am sure Riddell will have it soon after the release | 10:01 |
| OdyX | Lure: OK. Fine for me... | 10:01 |
| kmon | New: KDE startup reordered in order to improve startup time. | 10:01 |
| Lure | problem is that 3.5.3 comes at wrong time when Riddell will be busy with Dapper release | 10:01 |
| kmon | Lure: yes. and I understand it's too close to relase to try | 10:01 |
| kmon | and since dapper is LTS | 10:01 |
| kmon | it's comprensible | 10:02 |
| kmon | but maybe some patches could be included ;) | 10:02 |
| kmon | anyway | 10:02 |
| kmon | I'm just ranting... | 10:02 |
| kmon | since I don't know how to do that | 10:02 |
| kmon | else I would do it | 10:02 |
| kmon | I guess we will have to wait for jriddells private packages :) | 10:03 |
| kmon | which for me is perfectly understandable | 10:03 |
| kwwii | raphink: ok, I will fix that now :-) | 10:09 |
| kwwii | kdm, here I come | 10:09 |
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| bddebian | Ack, who knows kdevelop? | 10:23 |
| Riddell | bddebian: kdevelop is spooky voodoo | 10:28 |
| Riddell | Lure: ah yes, I need to remove kwifimanager | 10:28 |
| dereks | Riddell: did you see my bug with breezy->dapper upgrade? | 10:29 |
| Riddell | kwwii: looks stripy | 10:29 |
| kwwii | Riddell: I am going to change the bg and the buttons | 10:29 |
| kwwii | the stripes were marks idea | 10:30 |
| Riddell | dereks: don't think so, what's the number? | 10:30 |
| kwwii | but I am sure we can change them :-) | 10:30 |
| Lure | Riddell: when is the meeting: 21 UTC (as topic here and in #ubuntu-meeting claims) or 22 UTC (as wiki claims)? | 10:31 |
| bddebian | Riddell: Aye, but am I supposed to be able to create an svn repo with it? | 10:31 |
| Riddell | Lure: 30 minutes | 10:32 |
| Riddell | Lure: please fix wiki | 10:32 |
| Riddell | bddebian: no idea, I don't think so I think it just checkout's and commits | 10:32 |
| dereks | Riddell: i didn't file a bug yet, i wrote a msg here to make sure it was one: i am trying to upgrade from breezy to dapper and it isn't going well :(.My sources.list is found at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13799 the output of my dist-upgrade is at: http://slovin.us/test and when i just try to install kubuntu-desktop i get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13796 | 10:32 |
| Lure | Riddell: done | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: will send you the patches for systemsettings in a few minutes | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: will you merge with svn ? | 10:39 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: sure | 10:58 |
| Riddell | dereks: I'll get to you after the meeting, don't let me foget | 10:58 |
| bddebian | Ack, I have to get on the road, later folks | 10:58 |
| dereks | Riddell: ok | 10:58 |
| Riddell | ** kubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in a couple of minutes | 10:59 |
| bddebian | Doh :-( | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the mail is gone. I didn't changed more than what we discussed finally, since it is probably better to wait for edgy to makedepper changes | 11:01 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: you changed layout in syssettings? | 11:01 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: just a few movements in the sections, nothing deeply modified | 11:03 |
| Lure | ok | 11:03 |
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