[12:03] uid is always 0, as we execute kdesu_stub as root and then stub actualy does the swith to appropriate user [12:04] oh, hmm, didn't realise that [12:04] although that patch is as much for sudo as it is for kdesu [12:04] It took me almost an hour to realize that ;-) [12:05] .ICEauthoroty is for what? [12:06] for authentication to ICE which is a communication protocol used by DCOP [12:07] ic, then I need to check the stub further to understand what dcop options do... I would not like to break something... [12:09] the problem was that previously sudo kde programs would create ~/.ICEauthority files that were owned by root so then the user couldn't use ICE (and no DCOP == no KDE) [12:10] ok, that is right - but now we need to ensure that non-root users get their ICEauthority as they will otherwise fail (as they will not be able to modify it) [12:10] I mean the one on /root [12:11] hah, that patch still has one of my silly debugging lines in it :) [12:12] Riddell: in any case, it makes sense that this setenv calls are moved to stub (when user is clear) [12:12] we just need to be sure that this is set soon enough - before any code gets executed that may mass with .kde or .IDEauthority [12:12] it's in kapplication, the application must be called as the final user surely [12:13] Riddell: yes, you are right - at this point in time, we should be already running under right UID [12:14] so, if user luka starts app as user "miki", would you expect to use miki/.kde or luka/.kde? [12:15] that's a good question, either is equally correct I'd say so long as it doesn't write any files as miki to ~luka [12:16] Riddell: you cannot guarantee this unless you change the env vars... [12:16] yep [12:16] Riddell: it looks to me that Run As is not used a lot ;-) [12:17] there's not much need to be another user, you may as well just be root [12:17] Riddell: and I am questining if we should fix it just before release (as the right fix might not be complely trivial) [12:18] it would depend on the complexity of the fix yes [12:18] anyway, it was a long day, so I will look into this tommorow [12:19] I will try to get minimal change in, as I do not think we are ready for bigger surgeries (and I just have two evenings left before I leave for one week vacation) ;-) === marseillai_ [n=marseill@AMarseille-256-1-11-14.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-85-40.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Everyone should be on the look out for regressions w.r.t. buttons in systemsettngs. || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLinuxTag2006 || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUbiquity || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meetings in #ubuntu-meeting -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- Next meeting is 11/05/06 2100 UTC === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Wed May 3 13:56:43 2006 === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:06] anyone around? === Huahua [n=hua_@222.50.183.17] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:09] Riddell: I did the changes for systemsettings, but I'm looking if there are a few things to polish (desktop files etc....) [09:09] Riddell: you will have the debdiff toonight [09:13] someone poke me in 7 hours - dont let me forget about that meeting - unless you dont want me to turn up, of course :P === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:56] Riddell: knet was patched, has been tested by 3 guys, can I upload it and close the bug [09:57] freeflying: sure [09:58] Riddell: also there some lintian warnings, shall I correct htem too? === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:59] freeflying: only if they're important, otherwise that's just diverging from debian [10:01] Riddell: okey,thx === OdyX [n=Didier@80.33.64.8] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee whines at the problems with the flight 6... [11:39] use flight 7? [11:39] flight 6 is pre-beta [11:39] i know. but it's the only cd that i had... === Hobbsee wonders why the clock shows as 9.39am... [11:40] it's on GMT? [11:40] i'll be intersted to see if xorg.conf updates itself... [11:40] it may well be [11:46] hi Riddell && Hobbsee [11:47] hi raphink [11:48] the topic is correct, and there really is a meeting tomorrow morning? [11:49] well tonight that is ;) === Mez [i=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:58] *growls* [11:58] ndiswrapper for dapper is *still* screwed! [11:58] :( [12:01] *goes to find latest compiled version* [12:09] er..cant compile it without being on the newest kernel. stupid hobbsee. === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@61.190.65.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:24] Riddell: skim in livecd still crash when log into desktop === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-130-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:29] moin [12:29] mornfall: moin [12:30] freeflying: how can I test that? [12:30] i suppose someone should be elected to maintain skim in kubuntu who actually uses it ;-) [12:31] System of a Down -- Toxicity [12:32] Riddell: you's add CJK language support to the livecd, and choose zh_CN locales when you boot the livecd [12:33] Lure: did you koffice changes get uploaded? [12:33] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/197 --< another issue I've told you [12:34] Riddell: yes, by raphink [12:34] and kdesu fix too [12:34] and I'm building a fix for the kdesu msg [12:34] something fixed in kdesu? :) [12:34] :) [12:34] mornfall: run as foo [12:34] kdesu -u [12:34] aheh [12:34] bug had been around since breezy === mornfall wants to get rid of kdesu for adept 3.0 ;-) [12:35] hehe [12:35] because it's worth nothing but trouble [12:35] it uses sudo -H in kubuntu right? [12:37] mornfall: it uses sudo, and sudo is set to preserve home directory by default [12:37] but kdelibs is patched to change that in KApplication [12:37] ewgh [12:37] no wonder it breaks ;P [12:38] right, I need a translation from everyone, "Email File" in all the languages we have please [12:40] mornfall, raphink, Lure, freeflying: can you put a translation of "Email File" for any languages you speak into a pastebin [12:40] sure [12:40] I'll begin [12:41] Riddell: is it supposed to explicitly mention email or is "send" ok? [12:41] mornfall: the action is sending by e-mail, if you think that's ok to be implicit then translate however you wish [12:42] in french they often say "send file" [12:42] which is explicit [12:42] Riddell: only "Email File" , two words? [12:42] i have no idea about context [12:42] freeflying: yes [12:42] mornfall: context is a right click konqueror action [12:43] I thoguht there was a plugin in konqueror that said "Email File" === Riddell adds freeflying's clock issue to his ubiquity todo list for the day [12:44] is there an utf8-enabled pastebin? :) [12:44] raphink: don't think so, that's why we've added one [12:44] mornfall: kubuntu.pastebin.com ? [12:44] mornfall: paste.ubuntu.org.cn [12:44] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/198 done translation [12:44] i tried pastebin com and it broke [12:45] ./kdebase-3.5.2/kate/app/katemailfilesdialog.cpp: : KDialogBase( parent, "kate mail dialog", true, i18n("Email Files"), [12:45] mornfall: ours maybe the first one support utf8, heh [12:45] maybe this translation can be used [12:46] Riddell: wouldn't that be fine? [12:46] Riddell: umm, location->send file something wrong with that? [12:46] Riddell: other than it's not in context menu? (but context menu action should have same text as normal menu right?) [12:48] Lacuna Coil -- Aeon [12:48] running location->send file from ~ seems to be crunching my harddisk a lot [12:48] raphink: should be if you want to extract all the po files with svn2dist [12:49] Riddell: well that'll still be faster than asking 300 people to translate [12:49] true [12:49] Riddell: i have selected file, it tried to open kmail composer [12:50] Riddell: the point is that the menu text should be same for same things and you shouldn't need new translations that way [12:50] I think konqueror is now trying to send every file below my home directory, this could take a while [12:50] (tried, but my kmail is so crippled it can't open it :p) [12:51] any volunteers to extract all the konqueror .po files? [12:52] is someone able to see orange.fr properly with firefox ? [12:52] :s :s [12:52] don't have ffox :] [12:52] mornfall: hehe [12:52] works in konqueror [12:52] I just use it when konqueror doesn't work [12:52] and in this case some functions on the webiste don't work with konqui [12:53] but then with firefox it doesn't even show the page [12:53] heh === mornfall tries to recall what he has to do [12:54] my firefox opened it partially and then froze [12:55] mine shows it as an xml file [12:55] without interpreting it [12:55] i can recall exactly one website that wouldn't work in konqueror and trying ffox would fix it [12:56] and one that would work in neither and using opera would fix it === freeflying [n=ubuntu@61.190.65.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:58] Riddell: after restart kdm, skim can work [12:58] Riddell: it's so strange [12:58] freeflying: on live CD? [12:59] Riddell: y [01:00] freeflying: how do you restart kdm on the live CD? [01:01] Riddell: in tty1 using sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart [01:01] freeflying: and you install skim on tty1 as well? [01:02] Riddell: no, skim is in livecd === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@61.190.65.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:10] uploading kdebase :) [01:10] raphink: what's the change? === _freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:10] Riddell: now that kdesu is fixed in kdelibs, I just patched a condition in kdebase so it shows the right message when it's using su instead of sudo [01:10] for run as foo [01:11] so it shows "enter password for user foo" in this case instead of "enter your password" [01:11] ;) [01:11] groovy [01:11] just tested it and uploading [01:11] :)http://www.orness.fr/images/orness_top_small.png [01:11] oopsd [01:11] sorry [01:12] slipped on the keyboard ;) === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kasina [n=kasina@196.200.37.114] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=marseill@AMarseille-256-1-11-14.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === PascalFR_ [n=PascalFr@ATuileries-152-1-34-116.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:19] Hello, i'm looking for confirmation on dapper bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg/+bug/37992 [02:19] Malone bug 37992 in xserver-xorg "ksnapshot unusable in area mode with xinerama " [Normal,Unconfirmed] [02:22] seaLne is our multihead dude (although not xinerama as I remember) [02:25] okay...what the *hell* happened to sound recently??? argh!!!1 [02:25] alsa is sounding TERRIBLE! === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:28] moin [02:28] raphink: http://bootsplash.org/lt.ogg === Hobbsee winces and wonders what on earth happened... === ubijtsa2 [n=ubijtsa@213.208.70.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mutantx [n=mutantx@62.123.43.240] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:35] Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone can help on how I would go about taking 2 dsl lines and combine them under linux [02:37] mutantx: wrong channel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:40] kwwii: seems you had fun filming ;) [02:41] raphink: I love cameras :-) [02:41] :) [02:44] how come zeroconf:/ only lists VNC shares in konqueror? [02:44] shouldn't it list ftp, sftp, fish, http aswell ? [02:45] are there .desktop files for those? [02:45] ah [02:45] dunno [02:45] I remember it used to work [02:45] that's why I'm wondering === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === PascalFR__ [n=PascalFr@ATuileries-152-1-79-87.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === SLavik [n=SL@st4.cis.ltk.com.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mutantx [n=mutantx@62.123.43.240] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === MidMark [n=MidMark@host-84-221-196-191.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:10] Riddell: here is a problem, the stuff that I have made for kubuntu is all svg based, and no office suite can import it [03:11] Riddell: so can I put a couple of SVGs in as well? [03:11] kwwii: what stuff? [03:11] Riddell: the leaflet, for instance [03:11] Riddell: or the banner [03:13] the leaflet is SVG? [03:13] but sure, putting SVGs in is fine [03:13] assuming we're talking about example-content [03:13] cool === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:14] I am going to whip up a few OO templates too, of course [03:14] good morning Hobbsee [03:14] machine not killed :D [03:14] hi Riddell [03:15] ooh crud...i almost forgot to email dholbach those dh_iconcache fixes.. [03:16] why does "Configuring gnome-panel-data" come up when Kubuntu boots? ;) [03:16] dapper flight7 live cd... [03:17] abattoir: we use the same scripts (casper), I presume that one just fails politely [03:23] Riddell: would you have any clue why my sound sounds flat? [03:23] only some of the time - seems to be with the alsa engine [03:23] i've never had this before, and my sound card hasnt changed [03:24] seems kde based... [03:24] Hobbsee: nothing should have changed recently in KDE [03:25] hmmm....how odd... === SLavik [n=SL@st4.cis.ltk.com.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:27] Riddell: oh, ok... i get 'ok' though, if that's what you meant... [03:28] like I say, polite :) [03:28] Riddell: oh, I thought it would say 'failed'... ok thanks :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:34] seaLne: ping [03:35] freeflying: pong === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-061-112.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:35] seaLne: done with tranlsation [03:36] freeflying: cool [03:36] seaLne: can we provide thsoe translated interview magzine? [03:37] freeflying: sorry not sure what you mean? [03:37] seaLne: I mean can we give those translated intevews to local printed magzine? [03:38] freeflying: hmmm let me have a think about that, poke me if i haven't got back to you [03:39] freeflying: do you have a specific in mind or just in general [03:39] seaLne: okey [03:39] seaLne: general [03:39] k === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai [04:03] hmm, http://www.google.com/trends?q=kubuntu%2C+ubuntu&ctab=0&date=all&geo=all === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:06] thats intresteing [04:06] Riddell: pm? [04:06] Hobbsee: sure [04:07] heh, Kubuntu seems to be very popular in Scandinavia... [04:08] oh my mistake... it was ubuntu not kubuntu :( ... misinterpretation of the graph [04:09] :P [04:09] it'd be fun to do a distro-smackdown this way :D [04:10] more interesting.... [04:10] http://www.google.com/trends?q=kubuntu%2C+ubuntu%2C+mandriva%2C+suse&ctab=0&date=all&geo=all [04:10] yeah Italy fifth! [04:11] heh kubuntu needs a little more ground there ;) [04:11] and publicity too :) [04:11] yea ; [04:20] raphink: do you have anything else advertised? [04:24] oh my https://launchpad.net/bugs/44202 [04:24] Malone bug 44202 in ept "Adept wastes bandwidth" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [04:24] heh [04:24] gigabytes a day [04:24] ey yey === Hobbsee splutters, after actually reading the bug report [04:25] enjoy replying to that one :P [04:25] besides the !repos command has the deb-src lines commented out [04:31] i will need a bug-filtering department === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.35.173] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:38] Riddell: you know, just having skim in the installation doesn't make sense ... you need at minimum scim-tables-additional ... but the issue with that is that it depends on scim ... [04:38] I've never needed that package as far as I know [04:39] Riddell: also, scim-tables source has the skim SetupUI disabled [04:39] Riddell: well, without it, whats the point of Skim ? Raw Code IME ? [04:40] the only other useful library for skim would be libkmfl ... but i dont think it has been packaged for Debian/Kubuntu [04:40] hello, Riddell [04:40] Riddell: I found fuse_kio in http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=KIO+Fuse+Gateway . [04:40] Riddell: scim-tables allows people to type indic languages among others [04:41] it possible to mount ioslaves and make them this way available to all linux apps. [04:41] It can make the apps which don't support KDE ioslaves can work on KDE better. [04:42] insanekane: what's the problem with skim and scim-tables [04:44] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/joelbryan?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Screenshot-Ubuntu+Welcome+Center.png [04:44] freeflying: installing scim-tables brings scim too ... a menu entry is added called SCIM Input Method Setup (a duplication of the Skim Configuration dialog). Also, the scim-tables has the Skim SetupUI disabled (!?!) ... so you can administer tables only in the GNOME interface, and not in Skim [04:45] freeflying: menu entry = K -> Settings -> SCIM Input Method Setup [04:45] insanekane: it's a known issue === gaelduval [n=gaelduva@gam14-2-82-230-24-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:45] freeflying: ok, just reporting it again [04:46] "ubuntu welcome center" i can't think of a much lamer name :P [04:46] insanekane: as for the skim support of scim-tables, the maintainer working ont it [04:46] mornfall: it's win's style heh [04:46] freeflying: maybe the scim-table-module shouldn't depend on scim ... and only on libscim ? [04:47] insanekane: I've tested this before, there will be problems if we just use libscim for skim [04:48] insanekane: anyway you can file a bug on the skim support in scim-tables, maybe we can have exception [04:51] insanekane: the required parts should all be brought in by language-support-xx [04:51] Huahua: is there a package? [04:51] Riddell: kde-guidance: please add Homepage: http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance to long description [04:52] Riddell: no [04:52] Huahua: fancy making one? :) [04:53] allee: asking Fathi will probably be quicker than asking me [04:54] Riddell: it's in alioth already. Do you still sync with it? [04:54] allee: oh cool, I've not really been syncing no [04:54] syncing is for after dapper [04:55] yeah, and you had already 0kubuntu1. That's why I ping you :) [04:56] Riddell: either way, one shouldn't have to install gtk etc, just to get scim-tables working on Kubuntu :) [04:56] freeflying: exception ? [04:57] insanekane: if it needs scim there's not much I can do [04:57] freeflying: you mean, there are more similiar things ? [04:57] Riddell: it doesnt [04:57] insanekane: the skim support in scim-tables mean new feature, but now we are in deep freeze [04:58] freeflying: heh, thats funny [04:58] insanekane: release candidate is coming [04:59] Riddell: only one .so in that package requires gtk .. and that should anyway be installed in a seperate package ... like scim-tables-setupui-gtk ... or something like that [05:01] ok, check out: http://bootsplash.org/00-presenting-kubuntu.odp [05:01] I took the ubuntu presentation and kinda tweaked the design [05:01] (there are still lots of gnome screens, etc.) [05:04] kwwii: 404 ERROR [05:05] erm, small OO [05:05] http://bootsplash.org/oo-presenting-kubuntu.odp === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-85-40.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:10] hehe, krita has endian problems [05:10] kwwii: still can not be downloaded [05:11] freeflying: yeah, funky...let me check [05:11] 16:08:14 ERROR 403: Forbidden. [05:12] ahhh, yeah, it had the rights from the orig in /usr/share/ [05:13] now it should work [05:18] Riddell: what do you mean? === mutantx [n=mutantx@62.123.43.240] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:20] kwwii: it's for kubuntu or ubuntu, heh [05:21] kwwii: why is your presentation showing gnome? [05:21] kwwii: btw, the source of my talk is http://raphink.info/talks/2006/05-LinuxTag/ [05:21] kwwii: could you finally transform your video or is ffmpeg2theora still broken ? [05:21] as I mentioned, it is the gnome presentation, with a few design changes [05:22] ah ok [05:22] OdyX: http://bootsplash.org/lt.ogg === \sh [n=shermann@unaffiliated/sh/x-000000002] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:22] I need to add screenshots, change text, etc. [05:22] but is it worth it? do you think it is good enough? [05:22] kwwii: fine! So? Complicated ? [05:22] ;-) [05:22] OdyX: well, it did not scale it like it said it would [05:22] but otherwise, very simple [05:23] raphink: about what? === My8os [n=My8os@ppp120-117.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [05:23] [16:20] raphink: do you have anything else advertised? [05:23] kwwii: polyester? does it stand a chance? and rounding top corners window decoration... [05:24] brb === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:27] superstoned: for this release, I guess not [05:28] raphink: I have no memory of saying that, nor any idea why I did [05:28] ah ok [05:28] well nm then ;) [05:28] ok "run as foo" is fixed [05:28] cool, thanks guys === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:28] Howdy folks [05:28] good afternoon bddebian [05:28] hi bddebian [05:28] guys but kernel now for smp and non-smp are unified in the same kernel? [05:29] Does kdepim have it's own filters or does it use kmails? [05:29] and avahi just needs settings to work fine [05:29] but I can't find where to tell it to publish some services by default [05:29] I have to keep searching cause this is very interesting :) [05:29] bddebian: filters for what? [05:29] Sorry, message filters [05:30] I'm trying to look at this: Bug #39944 [05:30] Malone bug 39944 in kdepim "Set filters are ineffective" [Normal,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39944 [05:30] bddebian: I think that just means kmail's e-mail filters [05:30] kmail is part of kdepim === gaelduval [n=gaelduva@gam14-2-82-230-24-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:34] Riddell: krita is useless on ppc, endianess problems screw up colors and alpha values [05:36] zeroconf is wonderful :) === raphink just created a fish settings for zeroconf and it works great :) [05:36] kwwii: tell it to boud [05:36] who probably can't fix it since he doesn't have a ppc [05:37] Where are KDE upstream bugs? [05:37] bugs.kde.org [05:38] raphink: have a look at this http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=KIO+Fuse+Gateway [05:38] Thx Riddell [05:38] freeflying: what for? [05:39] Riddell: yeah, I'll do that...but for now "example-content" will not have any pics to edit in kde because of that [05:39] raphink: a user system [05:40] Boy is that site freakin' slow :( [05:42] I know FUSE freeflying [05:43] raphink: it's will be useful for all applications [05:43] sure [05:43] klik devs might be interested in this kio [05:43] in particular [05:44] how about klik now? [05:44] how do you mean? [05:45] klik 2.0 uses FUSE [05:45] and having a fuse kio might be a good news for them ;) [05:45] can klik be used now? [05:45] sure [05:45] but it's not in dapper [05:45] and it won't be [05:45] we're working on having it ready for egy [05:45] edgy [05:46] I prepare include it into my livecd, heh [05:47] kanotix has it [05:47] so you should ask them ;) [06:01] is there a pop-up for the adept-notifier? [06:01] I am making screens for the example presentation [06:02] no there's no popup that I know of [06:02] Riddell: is it fine according to you if I add some protocols to rezoconf in kde ? [06:02] like fish and sftp, very useful ;) [06:02] raphink: sure [06:03] someone (lure?) already did that but I lost the patch [06:03] ok [06:03] ah [06:03] raphink: make sure they don't clash with anything [06:03] what other protocols might I add that would be useful ? [06:03] no they won't [06:03] I've tested around [06:03] it's only small text files that enable protocol recognition for services announced by an avahi server on the network [06:04] raphink: nfs if possible .... [06:04] hmmm [06:05] nfs is already there ;) [06:05] no need to add it [06:05] IM possible ? [06:05] IM ? [06:05] comment a ? [06:06] instant messenger [06:06] kopete contact ? [06:06] that's not peer to peer [06:06] dono if it's already possible [06:06] freeflying: better? http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/ubiquity.png [06:06] so it can't be announced by a local server [06:06] Riddell: fine, thx [06:07] raphink: yes it can! bonjour does it! and kopete will normaly do that! but dono if it already does! [06:07] bonjour is P2P [06:07] ok [06:07] well when I know kopete is doing it that'll be great [06:07] but so far I don't think it does === marseillai will ask right now [06:09] Riddell: whatt is the best in your opinion? (1) adding the files as a patch and patching the Makefile (2) adding the files as a patch and installing from kdnssd.install (3) adding the files in debian and installing from kdnssd.install [06:09] ? ;) [06:12] raphink: depends if upstream can take them === Riddell asks [06:14] imo they should [06:15] then also it seems kdnssd doesn't depend on avahi-daemon === JakubS_ [n=qba@azk210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:15] hello [06:15] but it can't be used without it [06:15] Hello JakubS_ [06:15] hi JakubS_ [06:15] someone wanted to add ssh .desktop file for zeroconf:/ ioslave? [06:16] JakubS_: yep, me :) [06:16] I'd like to add at least ssh and fish [06:16] well fish and sftp sorry [06:16] ssh is already there [06:16] yeah, that's why i was quite surprised :-) [06:17] hehe [06:17] no it's just fish and sftp :) [06:17] fish just needs to be a copy of _ssh._tcp named _fish._tcp [06:17] and sftp a copy of ftp [06:17] well with the name and description changed that's about it [06:18] but its useful, all the more that konqui can use both [06:18] and then I'd like to ship an SSH service group with avahi-daemon [06:18]