[12:05] <reon> Anybody know of a Lipstik skin for frostware ?
[12:08] <movi> what package do i need for mp3 playback? (eg like ubuntu has gstreamer)
[12:08] <movi> for kubuntu
[12:08] <crimsun> for breezy or dapper?
[12:09] <movi> dapper
[12:09] <crimsun> movi: install libxine-extracodecs from multiverse
[12:09] <movi> thanks
[12:10] <kavit> is XGL with kde working properly yet?
[12:10] <movi> if you use gnome-window-decorator instead of kwin then yes :)
[12:10] <movi> and you still need gconf-editor
[12:10] <kavit> ah
[12:10] <kavit> i think I will pass for now
[12:16] <bilford> apol, Ok fixed.  thx
[12:17] <apol> :)
[12:29] <raf> hello, is it tru that Kubuntu comes with all ports closed?
[12:29] <raf> tru = true
[12:31] <raf> I'd read this: "Kubuntu installs with no open ports, so strictly speaking it doesn't need one."
[12:31] <Kyral> need one what?
[12:31] <Kyral> Firewall?
[12:31] <raf> in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/03/09/tuning-kubuntu.html
[12:31] <raf> hehehe
[12:31] <Kyral> Yes, by default *buntu doesn't have any ports open
[12:32] <Kyral> but still, not using IPTables when its already there is quite a waste IMO
[12:32] <raf> my mldonkey doesn't work after open all ports on my physical router, so I think was due to close ports on kubuntu. Am I wrong?
[12:32] <Kyral> I wouldn't know
[12:32] <Kyral> I don't use mldonkey
[12:34] <raf> "*buntu doesn't have any ports open" means that if I want to serve a service (web, ftp) I should open some ports?
[12:34] <Kyral> It would automatically open them if it needed it
[12:34] <raf> :|
[12:34] <raf> really?
[12:34] <Kyral> Ie, install OpenSSH server, port 22 opens
[12:34] <Kyral> install Apache, Port 80 opens
[12:34] <billytwowilly> hi. which packages create the stuff in the /etc/kde3/kdm/ dir? kdm doesn't...
[12:34] <raf> well, but if I installed mldonkey manually
[12:35] <raf> ?
[12:35] <Kyral> wouldn't matter
[12:36] <raf> i mean, if  I installed Apache, It comes in a package, I can install it with apt, I suposse that some scripts opens the ports, but mlDonkey comes in tar, I only untar the  tar an run mlnet
[12:37] <Kyral> I shouldn't matter how it gets there
[12:37] <Kyral> Debian Packages are the same thing as compiled tarballs
[12:37] <raf> kubuntu open port as fast as some application needed
[12:37] <raf> ?
[12:37] <raf> hehehe
[12:37] <Kyral> I don't hink you are getting this
[12:38] <Kyral> do netstat -tap
[12:38] <Kyral> in a terminal
[12:38] <raf> I don't understand you
[12:38] <raf> ko
[12:38] <raf> tcp        0      0 *:4662                  *:*                     LISTEN     9118/mlnet
[12:39] <Kyral> its open
[12:39] <raf> yes, hihihi
[12:39] <raf> well, sorry, I'm a stupid, iknow
[12:40] <raf> but, I'll come back turned into Guru and I'll help all those people like me
[12:40] <Kyral> Port 4662, eMule port
[12:40] <Kyral> along with UDP port 4672
[12:41] <raf> yes, that ports are open, because I have 2 hard disks, one with Windows, and another with Linux
[12:41] <Kyral> ...that shouldn't matter
[12:41] <raf> in windows I've installed eMule, and it use the same ports
[12:42] <Kyral> ...and this is a surprise?
[12:42] <billytwowilly> how do I rebuild the config files in /etc/kde3/kdm/ for kdm?
[12:42] <Kyral> reinstall it
[12:42] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm
[12:42] <raf> ok, thank you very much
[12:42] <billytwowilly> doesn't work. doesn't create any of the files that were in there again. is Xsession..
[12:43] <Kyral> then you have to find out which package it belongs to
[12:44] <billytwowilly> how do I search what the packages provide?
[12:44] <Kyral> packages.ubuntu.com
[12:44] <asimon> billytwowilly: try 'sudo genkdmconf'
[12:44] <billytwowilly> asimon: doesn't do anything..
[12:44] <asimon> billytwowilly: to see what file a package provides use dpkg -L <packagename>
[12:45] <billytwowilly> hmm. it should be in kdm...
[12:45] <billytwowilly> weird.
[12:46] <billytwowilly> so what looks like is happening is that the deb is creating the kdm dir, but not putting the files it has for that dir in there...
[12:46] <bilford> how do I access Shared folders on Windows computers on my netwoooork
[12:47] <bilford> ok, I'll try Samba
[12:47] <asimon> billytwowilly: strange, try to remove kdm via 'dpkg --purge --force-all kdm' and reinstall it via 'apt-get install kdm', maybe that fixes it.
[12:48] <asimon> billytwowilly: Oops, don't forget to prefix the commands with sudo
[12:48] <billytwowilly> woot!
[12:48] <billytwowilly> it'
[12:48] <billytwowilly> it's back
[12:48] <billytwowilly> yah... I just did a "sudo su" about five minutes ago to not have to do that all the time while trying to fix this;)
[12:48] <billytwowilly> now time to reboot and see what happens.
[12:50] <raf> I have a desktop PC, can I stop ACPI services??
[12:50] <billytwowilly> wouldn't that disable any power saving stuff built into your desktop cpu?
[12:51] <raf> yes
[12:51] <billytwowilly> don't you want the powersaving stuff on so your power bill isn't huge?
[12:51] <raf> is that just for laptops?
[12:52] <xst> Can anyone explain why the update manager doesn't tell me about updates anymore? I have to manually do an "apt-get update" before it discovers that updates are available. Is it only testing for updates rarely or what is happening?
[12:52] <billytwowilly> I thought it was for some desktops as welll. atleast newer ones.
[12:52] <raf> ok, thanks
[12:53] <bilford> wow that was easy
[12:53] <raf> I'm connected to the internet with a modem/router, Do I need PPP service running?
[12:54] <billytwowilly> damn.. after all that work the farking xserver still gives me a dumb error when I try to log into kde.
[12:56] <raf> I'm connected to DSL internet via modem/router, Do I need PPP service running?
[12:57] <bilford> why
[12:57] <bilford> is something wrong
[12:58] <raf> no
[12:58] <Zaire> damn irc isn't letting me identify
[12:59] <raf> nothing is wrong, but PPP is running, If I don't need it, i'll stop it
[12:59] <bilford> in Services?
[12:59] <bilford> I dont have it running
[01:00] <bilford> and Im on DSL w/router
[01:00] <asimon> xst: I think the update manager checks once a day for updates.
[01:00] <mrfishhat> in adept what would be the recommended nvidia driver?
[01:01] <duckdown> Hey all.  I try to use a proxy or TOR before IRC, and I'm currently using XCHAT, but when I DCC chat an eggdrop or a person, my home IP keeps being displayed!  How can I prevent this?  I want to filter my DCCs also!
[01:01] <Zaire> nvidia crash issues?
[01:01] <iNiku> xst, I've noticed the same the past few days
[01:02] <raf> here PPP is configured to start during boot
[01:02] <raf> but is not running
[01:07] <mrfishhat> In the package manager what does it mean if it says legacy by the package name?
[01:11] <Zaire> if I remember correct legacy is used to support older hardware or something like that
[01:11] <tafsen> anyone here that can tell me how to change the kde-controll-center to use sudo instead of su when loging on as admin?
[01:12] <iNiku> tafsen: huh?
[01:12] <iNiku> where does it use su?
[01:14] <tafsen> iNiku, I tried to ask at the kde chan but no one answered.  I have arch linux, and when I try log in as admin in KDE it uses the su comand instead of sudo
[01:15] <Zaire> I don't think thats somthing oyu can change but then Im not sure lol
[01:15] <iNiku> tafsen: do you mean in konsole when you open a "root console"?
[01:16] <tafsen> no
[01:16] <tafsen> I mean when open Network Settings and press administrator mode
[01:17] <iNiku> tafsen: okay, so how does it use su then? does it open a terminal window where su requests the root password?
[01:17] <iNiku> I'm not following you
[01:18] <iNiku> when I do that, I get a KDE su (kdesu) dialog box asking for my password
[01:18] <tafsen> yeah
[01:18] <iNiku> so you want to use sudo instead of that?
[01:19] <tafsen> nvm what I said before
[01:19] <tafsen> it
[01:19] <tafsen> it's the login that there is something wrong with
[01:19] <iNiku> how?
[01:19] <tafsen> because when I type my pw it says it's wrong
[01:20] <iNiku> are you typing your own password or the root password (if one is set)?
[01:20] <tafsen> my own password
[01:20] <tafsen> the root acount is dissabled
[01:21] <Zaire> I gotta say this is the longest Ive run Kubuntu without it crashing on me lol
[01:22] <iNiku> tafsen: strange, it should work
[01:22] <iNiku> are you sure the password is correct?
[01:26] <raf> I have two hard disks, one with windows, and one with linux, when I installed linux the windows HD wasn't with me, so I installed Grub with no double OS
[01:26] <raf> Could I add that second HD and modify grub
[01:26] <raf> ?
[01:26] <raf> so I'll have dual boot
[01:27] <raf> how can I do that?
[01:40] <Ahmuck> raf, yes
[01:41] <SuperK> can someone help me with a problem with kcontrol?
[01:41] <Ahmuck> title           Windows 95/98/Me
[01:41] <Ahmuck> root            (hd0,0)
[01:41] <Ahmuck> savedefault
[01:41] <Ahmuck> makeactive
[01:41] <Ahmuck> chainloader     +1
[01:41] <Ahmuck> that is if your windows drive is located on /dev/hda1
[01:42] <SuperK> it keeps telling me that it the config file is unwriteable and it will not save changes
[01:42] <raf> is there an order to connect the hard disks? I mean Liunx HD as master and Windows HD as slave, Linux HD slave: Windows HD master?
[01:42] <Ahmuck> raf, simply nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and add it to the bottom of the menu.lst file.  as i recall
[01:42] <SuperK> D o I just need to change the permissions?
[01:42] <Ahmuck> windows normally wants to be the master
[01:43] <Ahmuck> however, you need to be aware that this will change your grub configuration
[01:43] <raf> :D
[01:43] <Ahmuck> i suspect that currently grub is pointing /dev/hda1 as (hd0,0)
[01:43] <Egnygnok> if I install kubuntu 5.10 now, is it easy and safe to upgrade to the next version when it comes out?
[01:44] <Ahmuck> because it is really a grub issue, your best help in preparing might be found in channel #grub
[01:44] <Lorenzod> Hm.. Stupid question, but.. how do I get the icons in systray in two rows?
[01:44] <Ahmuck> SuperK: you need to sudo nano whatever.fil and then you should be able to save
[01:44] <Lorenzod> I had it that way, but now it's all on a single row, and I can't figure out how to set it back..
[01:44] <raf> who is better vi or nano?
[01:45] <Egnygnok> raf: nano is easier
[01:45] <Ahmuck> depends on what you prefer
[01:45] <SuperK> and for 'whatever' put kcontrol?
[01:45] <Ahmuck> i believe vi is more powerful, but for simple editing, i normally use nano
[01:45] <Ahmuck> SuperK: i am not sure what you are trying to do?
[01:45] <Ahmuck> trying to open kcontrol ?
[01:46] <raf> if I connect windows HD as master, then my system could not boot, right?
[01:46] <SuperK> well I have to CTRL-F2 to even get the kde control center since I got breezy
[01:46] <SuperK> BUT
[01:46] <raf> kdesu kcontrol :D
[01:46] <SuperK>  when I go into it I get this
[01:46] <Ahmuck> if you connect windows HD as the master you will want to change the grub configuration before you power your linux partition down
[01:46] <raf> ooh, ok
[01:47] <Ahmuck> so that it reflects the proper drive (me thinks) i am no expert, just a begginer on grub
[01:47] <raf> but, how can I know what will the name of HD's?
[01:47] <Ahmuck> normally your first drive is /dev/hda1 and your second would be /dev/hdb1
[01:47] <SuperK> Will not save configuration
[01:48] <SuperK> Configuration file "/home/kevin/.kde/share/config/kcontrolrc" not writable.
[01:48] <Ahmuck> grub handles them differntly however, which is why it is listed (hd0,0) etc.
[01:48] <SuperK> Please see your network administrator
[01:48] <raf> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[01:48] <raf> root            (hd0,0)
[01:48] <raf> that's part of my menu.lst
[01:48] <Ahmuck> SuperK: there is a way to fix that, however i am not sure it is the correct way.
[01:49] <Ahmuck> cd /home
[01:49] <Ahmuck> chown -R user:user user
[01:49] <Ahmuck> however you risk messing something up doing it this way, maybee
[01:49] <Ahmuck> ask around
[01:49] <Ahmuck> try #kde channel
[01:50] <SuperK> ok I will try that, is it on freenode?
[01:50] <Ahmuck> raf: i believe that your second drive would be listed then as (hd1,0)
[01:50] <raf> ../dev/hda1 = (hd0,0), right? so, /dev/hdb1 = ?
[01:50] <raf> oh, ok
[01:51] <Ahmuck> um, nm, i don't know what i am talking about.  raf, best bet, ask in #grub channel
[01:51] <Ahmuck> seriously
[01:51] <raf> ok
[01:51] <raf> thank you!
[01:52] <Ahmuck> SuperK: yes
[01:58] <quique> hola no entiendo nada...
[01:59] <raf> no yo tampoco, jejeje
[01:59] <natascha_> hi
[01:59] <raf> no hablo ingls, pero parece que poco a poco voy aprendiendo
[02:00] <raf> quique: qu es lo que necesitas?
[04:18] <Nola> Howdy
[04:31] <DaSkreech> So Phonon is a ... middle end?
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Needs more polish
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> DaSkreech: kcontrol :P
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Well it only needs tow things for me to smile :)
[04:34] <DaSkreech> When you search and then tab through it should only jump to things that are not dark
[04:34] <DaSkreech> and you should be able to enter compnents with the Keyboard
[04:34] <DaSkreech> This reliance on Mouse is disturbing
[04:47] <DaSkreech> Does the package from apt have a changelog?
[04:57] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: you can get the source, apt-get source <package> , then read the changelog file
[04:59] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: Ah. is that how Synaptic does it?
[04:59] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: not sure, sorry
[04:59] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: must be through libapt
[05:00] <xwolf-> i'm having a problem with the media:/ place
[05:00] <pagux> how to change kubuntu ip address ?
[05:00] <robotgeek> xwolf-: use /media then
[05:01] <pagux> i have changed it manually but it keeps taking my old ip address
[05:01] <xwolf-> pagux take a look at kcontrol
[05:01] <xwolf-> robotgeek i did this upgrade, now media:/ only shows my floppy drive.
[05:04] <pagux> but when i have changed manually of wifi interface why it keeps taking the old ip?
[05:05] <robotgeek> pagux: wireless is really bad in kubuntu (use wlanassistant)
[05:06] <pagux> yeah its #uckedup
[05:06] <pagux> and how do i configure ssied ?
[05:06] <robotgeek> !wifi
[05:06] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Whats jasper?
[05:08] <pagux> thnc
[05:08] <pagux> thnX
[05:09] <mine> hello i am new to linux and am trying to learn it it is not easdy but it is fun
[05:10] <pagux> one more my apache is pretty messed up in kubuntu .....when i removing or upgrading via apt it throw lots circular dependencies error
[05:10] <mine> does anyone have any advice ?
[05:10] <mine> oh well
[05:11] <pagux> mine:no pain no gain :-)
[05:11] <robotgeek> mine: sudo apt-get install -f
[05:11] <mine> how to install java for mozilla
[05:12] <robotgeek> !java
[05:12] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:12] <GullyFoyle> is dapper ready? i know alot of people are already using flight 7. any probs?
[05:12] <nalioth> GullyFoyle: it's not for production machines.
[05:12] <mine> thankx hav efarting around for 3 days
[05:13] <nalioth> GullyFoyle: if your machine is responsible for your bread and butter, don't use it.
[05:14] <GullyFoyle> mebbe i'l just try the live cd
[05:14] <DaSkreech> Do I need libjasperruntime for Kopete?
[05:16] <GullyFoyle> since breezy was my first kubuntu install (not my first linux distro by any means), when i upgrade can i just edit my sources.list and then apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:18] <DaSkreech> GullyFoyle: Si
[05:19] <bimberi> !upgrade
[05:19] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[05:20] <turkenator> hi every1 can i get sum help with apt-get ?
[05:20] <turkenator> i need sum help on using it
[05:21] <DaSkreech> turkenator: Use adept?
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Anyone using Yahoo! on Kopete?
[05:21] <turkenator> i need to do apt-get install --fix-broken and --no-checksig at the same time but it doesnt work
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Strange
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Kopete used to work
[05:31] <GullyFoyle> i tried kopete but i couldnt figure out how to join rooms
[05:31] <GullyFoyle> or get a roomlist
[05:31] <DaSkreech> for IRC?
[05:31] <GullyFoyle> for yahoo
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Oh
[05:32] <GullyFoyle> now i use zinc
[05:32] <DaSkreech> I didn't know you had them in Yahoo :)
[05:32] <turkenator> hi every1 can i get sum help with apt-get ?
[06:27] <SmokeW33d> can someone tell me where the xorg conf file is
[06:27] <SmokeW33d> i fucked up
[06:27] <SmokeW33d> but i backed it up
[06:27] <SmokeW33d> so
[06:27] <SmokeW33d> im going to replace it
[06:28] <SmokeW33d> anyone?
[06:29] <Raven301> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:29] <Raven301> SmokeW33d: ^^^^^^^^^
[06:32] <Raven301> When using apt-get ... Can you change the place it downloads from? If so Where do you change it?
[06:34] <Huahua> Raven301: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.lst
[06:35] <Raven301> thanks Huahua
[06:36] <xevious> is there a way to smoothly switch from debian testing to kubuntu?
[06:37] <Huahua> humm
[06:40] <jmg> hi all
[06:40] <jmg> anyone know how to configure an HP printer under kubuntu? Im trying to get network scanning to work
[06:43] <Raven301> Huahua: Is there a site to get the repositories list?
[06:43] <Raven301> I'm using Kubuntu 6.06 Flight 7
[06:43] <Huahua> wait
[06:44] <Raven301> ok ... thanks
[06:44] <Huahua> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe
[06:44] <Huahua> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe
[06:44] <Huahua> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted multiverse universe
[06:45] <Raven301> Huahua: So just add those lines into /etc/apt/sources.lst ?
[06:45] <Huahua> Raven301: yes
[06:45] <Raven301> Huahua: Thankyou very much :)
[06:45] <Huahua> :)
[06:47] <xevious> Huahua: i got a "humm" out of you with my debian->kubuntu question. any ideas how i might manage that?
[06:47] <Raven301> Huahua: When I ran  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.lst There  was nothing in the sources.lst file?
[06:49] <Huahua> It will have some like this   deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.04 _Dapper Drake_ - Alpha i386 (20060217.2)] / dapper main restricted
[06:50] <Raven301> No ... mine was empty
[06:50] <Huahua> xevious: it seems hard to smoothly switch
[06:51] <Huahua> Raven301: strange
[06:51] <Raven301> I did the live cd install
[06:52] <Raven301> what command do I run to update the repositories?
[06:52] <raf> how can I format a floppy in Kubuntu?
[06:53] <Huahua> raf: try  mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0
[06:54] <Huahua> Raven301: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:54] <Raven301> kwel ... thanks
[06:54] <Raven301> what's the difference between sudo and kdesu?
[07:01] <Raven301> Night all ... Big thanks Huahua :)
[07:01] <Huahua> that is ok
[07:02] <raf> but, mkfs.vfat makes a MS-DOS file system, right?
[07:02] <raf> I want to make a boot floppy
[07:03] <raf> a linux boot floppy with grub inside, because I'm going to edit my grub, so I don't wanna lost access to my system due to an error
[07:03] <Huahua> raf: boot to dos or linux  ?
[07:03] <raf> boot to linux
[07:03] <Huahua> raf: sudo apt-get install grub-disk
[07:04] <Huahua> raf: gunzip < /usr/share/grub-disk/grub-0.97-i486-pc.ext2fs.gz  > /dev/fd0
[07:11] <raf> well, I don't have my floppy mounted on /dev/fd0
[07:11] <raf> I have it in /mnt/floppy
[07:11] <raf> how can I mount it in /dev/fd0
[07:11] <raf> ?
[07:21] <kunjan> so um anyone have any idea how the hell to get broadcomm wifi working in ubuntu?
[07:21] <kunjan> i tried all those howtos
[07:23] <kunjan> 0000:02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[07:47] <hastesaver> Could someone update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto with instructions for Kubuntu?
[07:49] <morrow> start k3b and select "Tools -> Burn CD Image"
[07:54] <_johan> Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager:
[07:54] <_johan> Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: connection refused.
[07:54] <_johan> reinstalled this but still not working :|
[08:13] <aftertaf> hi all
[08:14] <aftertaf> is there a kubuntu dapper repository?
[08:14] <hastesaver> aftertaf, what do you mean? KDE packages are also available on the Ubuntu repository
[08:15] <aftertaf> i'm on dapper.... and the kubuntu deb i have is /breezy....
[08:15] <aftertaf> just wondering.
[08:15] <jaro> Yaayy
[08:16] <jaro> I'm back
[08:16] <jaro> with Kubuntt
[08:16] <jaro> u/t
[08:19] <hastesaver> aftertaf, the same thing, it will work
[08:19] <aftertaf> ok :) cool, was just wondering. :)
[08:20] <jaro> hmm what do i have to install to be able to compile things ??
[08:21] <jaro> I installed gcc 4.0 and Make , now
[08:21] <jaro> but that doesnt seem to be enough
[08:22] <aftertaf> build*essential  jaro
[08:22] <jaro> build-essentials might be it
[08:22] <jaro> yes
[08:22] <aftertaf> build-essential  jaro even :)
[08:22] <jaro> installing right now ^^
[08:23] <aftertaf> :)
[08:23] <jaro> should I uninstall make now ?
[08:23] <jaro> Makefile:135: *** Linux kernel source not found.
[08:24] <jaro> so I need Kernel Sources
[08:24] <jaro> how can I find out what kernel ive got ?
[08:25] <jaro> and is kernel-headers all i need ?
[08:25] <jaro> although there is not much choice
[08:25] <jaro> only 2.6.12
[08:27] <bimberi> jaro: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:28] <ivan07> who
[08:28] <jaro> hm i usually use adept
[08:28] <aftertaf> 2.6.12.x
[08:28] <aftertaf> .21 /.22
[08:28] <jaro> and its already installing
[08:29] <jaro> linux-headers-2.6.12-9
[08:29] <jaro> ok installed
[08:29] <aftertaf> 2.6.15.22.... dapper :)
[08:30] <jaro> ?
[08:30] <jaro> it still is not found
[08:30] <aftertaf> maybe needs more that kernel headers.
[08:30] <aftertaf> jaro: what do you want to complie?
[08:31] <jaro> graphics driver
[08:31] <jaro> which is available only for other platforms or source
[08:31] <jaro> system is brand new
[08:32] <jaro> 5.10
[08:32] <bimberi> jaro: what's the output of 'uname -r' ?
[08:32] <jaro> i only installed firefox
[08:32] <jaro> 2.6.12-9-386
[08:32] <jaro> nice ^
[08:32] <bimberi> jaro: install linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 as well
[08:33] <jaro> it is installed
[08:34] <jaro> is what the shell says
[08:36] <jaro> there also is no configure file with the graphics-driver-source
[08:37] <aftertaf> what gfx card?
[08:39] <jaro> its a Via S3 Unichrome
[08:39] <jaro> it seems i had no headers installed yet
[08:40] <aftertaf> but could still be it needs the kernel sources and not just headers. try grabbing them too.
[08:40] <jaro> hm i did
[08:41] <jaro> Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Ubuntu patches
[08:41] <aftertaf> with apt?
[08:41] <jaro> and it is installed
[08:41] <jaro> with adept
[08:41] <aftertaf> ok.
[08:42] <jaro> dont know whats missing
[08:42] <jaro> maybe i must restart.. lol
[08:42] <aftertaf> does the website where you got the drivers say anything?
[08:42] <roniez> hm.. anybody know why i get connection timed out when trying to ssh in to my computer?
[08:42] <aftertaf> normally, no. just X
[08:42] <roniez> but if i ssh from my other linux computer it works just fine.
[08:44] <jaro> hum
[08:44] <jaro> what now ?
[08:45] <aftertaf> cant you use X drivers for it?
[08:46] <jaro> i dont know
[08:46] <jaro> i usually had to use vesa driver
[08:46] <jaro> but then I didnt have any 3D support
[08:47] <jaro> and still 1024*768 looks like 800*600 to me
[08:48] <aftertaf> try google Via S3 unichrome ubuntu
[08:52] <jaro> cant find anything interesting
[08:53] <aftertaf> !gfx
[08:53] <ubotu> aftertaf: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:53] <aftertaf> jarcome to #ubuntu, more ppl around.
[08:53] <jaro> oh wait
[08:56] <aftertaf> jaro: you COULD try this: upgrade to dapper, and 2.6.15.21/22 kernel.... it seems there are updates to the gfx drivers and xorg in this release.
[08:56] <jaro> what is dapper ?
[08:56] <aftertaf> !dapper
[08:56] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[08:56] <aftertaf> its the next version. but its stable enough imho
[08:56] <jaro> oh ok
[08:57] <jaro> where can i get the upgrades ?
[08:58] <aftertaf> you alter your sources.list and hit apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:58] <jaro> some new entry for sources.list ?
[08:58] <jaro> which entry ??
[08:58] <aftertaf> jaro: you have adept, right?   MODIFY ALL HTTP://.... TO HAVE DAPPER INSTEAD OF BREEZY.
[08:58] <aftertaf> oops capslock
[08:58] <jaro> oh ok
[09:00] <jaro> it's upgrading
[09:00] <aftertaf> jaro: if not, there is this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124604
[09:00] <aftertaf> ccool.  its good, is dapper ;)
[09:01] <jaro> ;-)
[09:01] <aftertaf> seems its hardwired into 2.6.16 kernels too, which will be out soon enough
[09:01] <aftertaf> brb
[09:02] <jaro> Changes: install 141, upgrade 768, remove 58 packages
[09:11] <aftertaf> nice jaro :)
[09:11] <aftertaf> hi Hobbsee
[09:11] <Hobbsee> hey aftertaf
[09:11] <jaro> ^^
[09:11] <aftertaf> :)
[09:11] <jaro> hopefully it works afterwards
[09:11] <jaro> im tired of vesa
[09:11] <aftertaf> have tobacco, have pain au chocolat, ready to rock
[09:11] <jaro> it keeps me from using linux
[09:12] <aftertaf> jaro: hmmm.... if dapper dont cure it, we'll get to the bottom of this!!!! :)
[09:12] <jaro> but recently i saw that via has finally developed driver for 2.6
[09:12] <jaro> thank you very much :-)
[09:12] <jaro> i love this community
[09:12] <aftertaf> :)
[09:12] <aftertaf> me too.
[09:12] <jaro> ;-)
[09:13] <aftertaf> !upgrade
[09:13] <ubotu> [upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:14] <aftertaf> now need more coffee.
[09:17] <jaro> 16% done
[09:17] <jaro> maybe time for some breakfast
[09:17] <aftertaf> :)
[09:24] <imbrandon> morning everyone
[09:26] <Hobbsee> hi imbrandon
[09:29] <aftertaf> hi
[09:30] <roc> Hi
[09:31] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, you having any trubbly with hald on startup ( you are running dapper right ? )
[09:32] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: no, and yes, in that order
[09:32] <imbrandon> heh ok, i've got 2 machines on dapper and every since last night updates it freezes on hald  at boot
[09:32] <jaro> 23%
[09:33] <imbrandon> havent figured it out yea
[09:33] <imbrandon> both are very diffrent hardware too so i didtrhing it was a hardware issue
[09:34] <aftertaf> imbrandon: no and yes too..... to that other question
[09:34] <roc> a question: how do I run a rpm in kubuntu?
[09:35] <roc> (or just extract it somewhere)
[09:36] <imbrandon> roc kubuntu wasent designed for rpms so they MIGHT not act correct BUT you can convert them to debs with alien , alien <rpmname>
[09:36] <imbrandon> might have to apt-get install alien
[09:36] <imbrandon> if its not installed
[09:37] <roc> yeah downloading it currently... danke danke
[09:37] <jaro> german ?
[09:38] <jaro> hmm i need FireFox 1.5
[09:38] <imbrandon> !ff1.5
[09:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:38] <jaro> nice function
[09:39] <imbrandon> !botsnack
[09:39] <ubotu> thanks imbrandon :)
[09:39] <imbrandon> ;)
[09:39] <jaro> lol
[09:39] <jaro> is it AI ??
[09:39] <jaro> ^^
[09:39] <imbrandon> yea its a bot
[09:39] <Hobbsee> !+bot
[09:39] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:40] <roc> hmm... which linux would be closest to kubuntu? redhat, fedora or mandriva?
[09:41] <aftertaf> roc: debian
[09:41] <imbrandon> lol none , they are all very rpm based, what package are you needing?
[09:41] <imbrandon> debain is closest
[09:41] <jaro> .. hmm.. a , b or c ??
[09:41] <jaro> d !
[09:41] <jaro> lol
[09:42] <roc> imbrandon: wxPython... and unfortunately there isn't a package for debian, and I had big problems compiling from source
[09:42] <imbrandon> roc, you are better off getting the source to what ever package instead of an rpm if there is no deb package avail, rpm conversion is a LAST resort
[09:42] <aftertaf> lol
[09:42] <roc> imbrandon: yeah I have the sources also but man I have some NASTY problems with it xD
[09:42] <aftertaf> !info wxpython
[09:43] <roc> mha? !info what?
[09:43] <imbrandon> umm wxpython should be in the rpos
[09:43] <imbrandon> i use wxpythong and pyqt on my other box(es)
[09:43] <aftertaf> roc, type apt-cache search wxpython
[09:43] <roc> |: what is rpos?
[09:43] <imbrandon> repos , type
[09:43] <jaro> uff 28% dapper installed
[09:43] <imbrandon> typo
[09:43] <aftertaf> lol
[09:43] <aftertaf> pythong :)
[09:44] <roc> aha xD
[09:44] <imbrandon> lol i'm just wakin up ;)
[09:44] <jaro> uhh.. i remember when at first , as a linux newb, i compiled KDE 3
[09:44] <imbrandon> ouch
[09:44] <jaro> it took days and night
[09:44] <jaro> and i had no idead what i was doing
[09:45] <jaro> and all those unresolved package problems
[09:45] <jaro> uhhh
[09:45] <roc> apparently I don't seem to have the apt-chace command...
[09:45] <aftertaf> cache
[09:45] <imbrandon> cache
[09:45] <imbrandon> sudo apt-cache search wxpython
[09:45] <imbrandon> or
[09:45] <imbrandon> sudo apt-cache search python
[09:46] <imbrandon> :)
[09:47] <roc> atp-cache: command not found
[09:47] <roc> gaah...
[09:47] <aftertaf> roc. you type it wrong?
[09:47] <aftertaf> atp =! apt
[09:47] <roc> LOL oh my...
[09:47] <imbrandon> python-wxgtk2.4 - wxWindows Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (wxPython binding)
[09:47] <imbrandon> python-wxgtk2.6 - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (wxPython binding)
[09:47] <imbrandon> python-wxtools - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (wxPython common files)
[09:47] <imbrandon> python-wxversion - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (wxPython version selector)
[09:47] <imbrandon> is what my dapper bings back plus a bit more
[09:48] <roc> hmm with me it only finds pyopengl...
[09:48] <imbrandon> you have universe and mutiverse enabled?
[09:49] <roc> okay I admot it I'm a noob... what is unverse and mutiverse?
[09:49] <imbrandon> !repositories
[09:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:49] <roc> admit*
[09:49] <imbrandon> changes to your /etc/apt/sources.list file ( enabling you to get more software from apt-get )
[09:51] <imbrandon> basicly edit your /etc/apt-/sources.list file and uncomment out all the deb and deb-src lines then save/exit it and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then try the apt-cache search again
[09:53] <Vampis> Morning ppl
[09:53] <aftertaf> morning :)
[09:53] <imbrandon> 'ello
[09:53] <aftertaf> roc, you getting there?
[09:53] <jaro> allo allo
[09:54] <jaro> too bad i cant install two thins at once
[09:55] <roc> wait wait people...
[09:55] <roc> almost done
[09:55] <imbrandon> hehe
[09:58] <roc> well look at that... now I got'em right packages I think... lessee...
[09:58] <imbrandon> s/single/sings
[10:00] <roc> now I hope that this supports pyopengl also... otherwise all has been invain xD
[10:00] <imbrandon> you on breezy or dapper?
[10:00] <roc> hmm... may be breezy...
[10:01] <jaro> probably need to restart
[10:01] <jaro> but cant
[10:01] <jaro> lol
[10:01] <roc> naaa
[10:02] <imbrandon> roc, run "cat /etc/issue"
[10:02] <imbrandon> it'l tell ya
[10:03] <roc> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[10:04] <imbrandon> yea breezy ;)
[10:05] <imbrandon> just wondering becouse some of my packages are a little diffrent
[10:05] <imbrandon> root@svr:~# cat /etc/issue
[10:05] <imbrandon> Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" Development Branch
[10:06] <roc> hmm maybe you have the newest version of kubuntu... I'm still waiting for the official release of kubuntu 6
[10:06] <roc> jare jare... pyopengl works =D danke danke guys...
[10:08] <raf> hello
[10:08] <raf> I need help
[10:08] <raf> please!!
[10:08] <roc> just tell yer problem man...
[10:08] <raf> cool
[10:09] <raf> well, I have Kubuntu on a hard disk
[10:09] <raf> and Windows on another hard disk
[10:09] <Vampis> Me to
[10:09] <Vampis> but just until they will fix the sambaproblem
[10:09] <raf> first, just linux, without the windows hard disk
[10:10] <Vampis> Then bye bye windows
[10:10] <raf> so, I installed the windows hard disk
[10:10] <raf> I edited /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:10] <imbrandon> you need to reinstall grub if you installed windows second
[10:10] <raf> Windows doesn't boot, Linux does boot
[10:11] <raf> buuut
[10:11] <imbrandon> Vampis, samba problem ? i use samba every day all day long, whats the problem ?
[10:11] <raf> linux haven't network
[10:11] <raf> :D
[10:11] <raf> and windows have it
[10:11] <imbrandon> raf, can you pastebin you menu.lst
[10:11] <roc> ha? well I have heard that people have had problems with linux-windows networks but no network at all...
[10:12] <raf> I have an ADSL router, so I just need boot on an opertive system and the internet is conected
[10:13] <raf> I can't pastebin my menu.lst because I'm on windows
[10:13] <raf> because Linux doesn't have network
[10:14] <raf> I think grub is fine
[10:14] <raf> because Linux boot normally but networking is down
[10:14] <imbrandon> root@svr:~# cat /etc/issue
[10:14] <imbrandon> Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" Development Branch
[10:14] <raf> when I pinged my router, linux told me: Network is unreachable
[10:14] <ahmeni> hrm.. apparently my Savage card is among those that get DRM support in the new Dapper.. to upgrade or not..
[10:14] <imbrandon> ahh ok i was confuesed you said "[03:10]  <raf> Windows doesn't boot, Linux does boot"
[10:16] <raf> well, yes, sorry, windows doesn't boot, but I don't care about it, I want my network on linux
[10:16] <raf> once I have linux networking, I'll see the windows boot
[10:16] <ahmeni> Is your computer being assigned an IP address in linux?
[10:17] <ahmeni> network might not be set up for dhcp
[10:18] <raf> I have fix ip
[10:18] <raf> on linux
[10:19] <ahmeni> and it's showing up in ifconfig?
[10:19] <raf> I don't know what's wrong, the network was working in a perfect way before I connect the another hard disk
[10:19] <raf> no ifconfig returns nothing
[10:19] <roc> hotto hotto... got to run back to school... chiao people!
[10:20] <raf> when I type "ifconfig" nothing happens, just gives me the prompt again
[10:21] <ahmeni> ifconfig -a to see if your network device actually exists, then assign it an ip with ifconfig eth# ip
[10:22] <raf> http://raf.pastebin.com/711017
[10:22] <raf> that's part of mu menu.lst
[10:23] <raf> I just remembered it, I'm not seeing it
[10:25] <raf> is it posible to lost the network just by edit menu.lst or install another hard disk????
[10:26] <ahmeni> it might if you removed the initrd lines, i'm not entirely sure how the bootup scripts work but it might mean the module for your network card isn't being loaded
[10:27] <ahmeni> normally your menu.lst is created by the update-grub command though
[10:27] <raf> no, I don't edit any rc[0-9] .d directory
[10:28] <raf> yes, but I edited menu.lst, I add the WinME lines
[10:29] <ahmeni> not your rc directories, your initrd
[10:29] <ahmeni> i'll put up my working menu.lst for my dual boot
[10:30] <jaro> oh man
[10:30] <jaro> i dont have any access to my windows drives
[10:30] <jaro> as a common user
[10:30] <raf> nither rc.d nor initrd
[10:31] <jaro> !acces to windows drives
[10:31] <ubotu> jaro: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:31] <aftertaf> mount sadness jaro
[10:31] <jaro> do i have to change rights in the fstab ?
[10:31] <jaro> that might be an idea, hm ?
[10:31] <aftertaf> !windowsdrives
[10:31] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:31] <aftertaf> yes
[10:31] <ahmeni> raf: http://pastebin.com/711024
[10:31] <jaro> thx
[10:32] <jaro> .   /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[10:32] <jaro> looks like this
[10:33] <jaro> defaults has to be replaces by what ? user,auto,...
[10:33] <ahmeni> accessible by you or everyone?
[10:34] <jaro> everyone
[10:34] <ahmeni> "ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000"
[10:34] <jaro> uff
[10:34] <raf> well, can you help with Grub?
[10:34] <jaro> so much ?
[10:34] <jaro> i guess ro,auto,user is enough
[10:34] <ahmeni> what's what the link suggests, you could probably just do ro, auto, user
[10:34] <ahmeni> heh :)
[10:34] <ahmeni> raf: did you get my pastebin?
[10:35] <raf> no
[10:35] <ahmeni> raf: http://pastebin.com/711024
[10:35] <ahmeni> what you might be missing is the initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-386 line
[10:35] <Hobbsee> jaro: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0
[10:36] <aftertaf> you get my message dushy? on pm?
[10:36] <aftertaf> doh
[10:37] <raf> well, I'm sure I have that initrd line on my menu.lst
[10:38] <raf> without that line Liunx couldn't boot, right?
[10:38] <jaro> do i have to remount it , so that the access will be different ?
[10:39] <ahmeni> raf: just another thing to check when you boot back into linux :)
[10:41] <raf> well, I  'm going to do that
[10:41] <raf> I'll back in just a few minutes
[10:42] <jaro> ahh 46%
[10:42] <jaro> its moving faster
[10:43] <aftertaf> lol jaro
[10:43] <aftertaf> its an all day thing
[10:43] <jaro> uhh
[10:43] <jaro> i have to leave for Lecture soon
[10:44] <jaro> 51%
[10:44] <aftertaf> let it run baby :)
[10:45] <jaro> 56%
[10:45] <jaro> is java already included in dapper 
[10:45] <jaro> ?
[10:46] <jaro> i saw firefox 1.5 is :)
[10:57] <jaro> 81%
[10:59] <aftertaf> yeah
[10:59] <aftertaf> turbo apt
[11:06] <ep> My hard drive light is flashing constantly, it didn't used to do this.  Any tips for tracking down the cause?
[11:10] <aftertaf> hi kk
[11:10] <aftertaf> how was your desert island,
[11:11] <jaro> yeesss
[11:11] <jaro> starting to install
[11:11] <jaro> i forgot this might take as well some time
[11:11] <aftertaf> loool
[11:11] <aftertaf> you bet
[11:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi aftertaf
[11:11] <aftertaf> then on reboot.... time to make it work maybe ;)
[11:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> sandy :)
[11:12] <aftertaf> lol i imagine
[11:12] <jaro> too bad i have lecuter later
[11:12] <jaro> and also i would like to visit the Conactiva one more time for ESA
[11:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> brb/bbl ;)
[11:14] <jaro> oh dear
[11:15] <jaro> an error occured
[11:15] <jaro> something with passwd
[11:15] <aftertaf> argh. sudo apt-get -f install
[11:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> not so much a desert island as an island inthe desert btw aftertaf , but the ideas the same :)
[11:18] <jaro> ok i try this
[11:19] <jaro> i could also use apt-updater
[11:19] <jaro> adept-updater
[11:19] <jaro> ah same error
[11:19] <jaro> error while working on passwd (--configure)
[11:19] <aftertaf> weird. whats the error messaeg?
[11:19] <jaro> its german unfortunately
[11:20] <aftertaf> transalte
[11:20] <jaro> post-installation script returned errorvalue1
[11:20] <jaro> error with passwd
[11:20] <aftertaf> are all others configured?
[11:20] <jaro> i didnt configure anything
[11:20] <jaro> adept does it
[11:21] <aftertaf> but no others are pending?
[11:21] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get -f install if yes
[11:21] <jaro> thats what i just did
[11:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, whats up?
[11:22] <jaro> error message while updating
[11:22] <jaro> something with passwd
[11:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> version changing dist-upgrade, or just a standard update?
[11:23] <aftertaf> breezy > dapper
[11:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> got any output to look at?
[11:23] <jaro> its german
[11:24] <jaro> can i switch languages back ?
[11:24] <jaro> ok wait
[11:24] <aftertaf> hehe thx kk
[11:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> np ;) i am at work, but i'm the only one here, so no stress to get stuff done
[11:28] <jaro> configuring now
[11:28] <jaro> errors
[11:28] <jaro> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[11:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, are you doing this upgrade from terminal or using a package manager?
[11:29] <jaro> errors occured with
[11:29] <jaro> passwd
[11:29] <jaro>  qca-tls
[11:29] <jaro>  ubuntu-minimal
[11:29] <jaro> terminal this time
[11:30] <jaro> i dl qca cause of googletalk on kopete
[11:30] <jaro> maybe restart ?
[11:31] <jaro> and hopefully still can login
[11:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, basicly, we try to alternate `sudo apt-get -f install` and `dpkg --configure -a` mixed in with any commands we need to try and get it going
[11:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, i advise against a restart :)
[11:31] <jaro> ok
[11:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> can you pastebin your errors (in whatever language)
[11:31] <jaro> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[11:31] <jaro> while apt-get install -f
[11:31] <jaro> this causes the error with passwd
[11:31] <jaro> i wonder which process that might be
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, can you do the pastebin bit for us. we might be able to see.
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> also, to find whats using the file run `lsof |grep var/cache/debconf/config.dat` and `ps aux |grep var/cache/debconf/config.dat`
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> and tell us what tehy return
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> brb. getting a drink
[11:33] <konrad1207> have you tried  ps -A
[11:33] <jaro> dpkg-prec  2179       root    4rW     REG        3,2   66367     450162 /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[11:33] <jaro> dpkg-prec  2185       root    4r      REG        3,2   66367     450162 /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[11:33] <konrad1207> or like kk mentioned ps aux...
[11:34] <jaro> lots of stuff then
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> (warning: not nececarily recomended) jaro try `sudo kill -pidof dpkg-prec`
[11:34] <jaro> how does pastbin work ?
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, go to the website, paste your text in, then press 'save' (or whatever it is)
[11:35] <jaro> bash: kill: pidof: invalid signal specification
[11:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> then paste  us the link at the top with the number in it
[11:35] <jaro> ok
[11:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, i'll just check that command
[11:36] <ahmeni> marl
[11:36] <ahmeni> jaro: the output of lsof is cut off, it's dpkg-preconfigure
[11:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, sorry, try 'sudo kill `pillof dpkg-preconfigure`'
[11:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> ahmeni, thanks :)
[11:36] <jaro> http://pastebin.com/711087
[11:37] <jaro> bash: pillof: command not found
[11:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> *pidof*
[11:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, sorry, try 'sudo kill `pidof dpkg-preconfigure`'
[11:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> this has not been my day :/
[11:38] <jaro> now there is no message
[11:38] <jaro> just the way how to use kill
[11:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb Hobbsee . survive ok?
[11:38] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, fonts are tiny, updating now, and my mouse is screwed...
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[11:39] <imbrandon> flight 7 Hobbsee ?
[11:39] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: i only had flight 6
[11:39] <imbrandon> ahh
[11:39] <imbrandon> i'm almost all backed up, you run into anything lemme know ;)
[11:39] <jaro> Kamping_Kaiser:  doesnt seem to work
[11:40] <imbrandon> i'm installing sarge on the server right now and gonna doa  flight 7 install on the desktop
[11:40] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:40] <Hobbsee> i dont expect to
[11:40] <imbrandon> hopefully not ;)
[11:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro give `sudo killall  dpkg-preconfigure` a try
[11:41] <imbrandon> i made the mistake of running dapper on my server now i'm going through the pain of reloading it ;( but its all in good fun ( just that i dont like backing up 190+gb )
[11:41] <imbrandon> heh
[11:41] <jaro> done
[11:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats going to hurt :s
[11:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, try `sudo dpkg --configure -a` again
[11:42] <imbrandon> my servers all still run sarge just for stability but desktoips all on dapper
[11:42] <jaro> yay
[11:42] <jaro> no problems with passwd anymore
[11:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> yay
[11:42] <jaro> but , with the package i downloaded
[11:42] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: hehe yeah
[11:42] <jaro> can I remove it again ?
[11:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> sure
[11:43] <jaro> how ?
[11:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpkg -r packagename or apt-get remove packagename
[11:43] <imbrandon> apt-get --purge remove <pkgname> ;)
[11:43] <imbrandon> no configs left behind ;)
[11:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> h emight want his config files :p
[11:44] <jaro> Kamping_Kaiser:  now its done with apt-get install -f
[11:44] <jaro> what is left to do ?
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, if its done `apt-get install -f` run `sudo dpkg --configure -a`
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> if that returns ok reboot :)
[11:45] <jaro> returns nothing
[11:45] <jaro> uhh. ok
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> but i recomend making sure kubuntu-desktop is installeed before you do
[11:45] <jaro> dangerous reboot
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> (unless you removed it for a reason)
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> why?
[11:45] <jaro> how can i make sure ?
[11:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> (asuming your using kde)
[11:46] <jaro> hmm
[11:47] <jaro> there are some bad dependencies
[11:47] <jaro> which shall not be installed, but kubuntu depends on them
[11:47] <imbrandon> ouch
[11:47] <jaro> maybe i do adept-upgrade again
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> pastebin it jaro , along with the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:48] <jaro> its german
[11:48] <jaro> :(
[11:48] <imbrandon> bablefish ;)
[11:48] <jaro> lol
[11:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, it doesnt matter
[11:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> i did a setup in italian, never looked at it before :/
[11:49] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: hmmm??  true
[11:49] <jaro> http://pastebin.com/711101
[11:49] <Hobbsee> which bit is german?
[11:50] <Hobbsee> oh, no firefox yet...
[11:50] <imbrandon> looks like you need universe and multiverse
[11:50] <Hobbsee> ah yeah...
[11:50] <Hobbsee> jaro: try sudo apt-get install amarok
[11:51] <jaro> it is installed
[11:51] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: means that it cant install kubuntu-desktop, as amarok/etc are not going to be installed
[11:51] <Hobbsee> jaro: and for the others on that list
[11:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, i'm aware of that ;) i was having a go
[11:51] <Hobbsee> hehe :P
[11:51] <imbrandon> jaro, but that will update it
[11:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, can you pastebin yoru sources list
[11:51] <jaro> im updating now with adept-upgrade
[11:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee,  i did german as well... my name kinda owns me on that front
[11:52] <Hobbsee> now you be good, or i'll make you fix my computer :P
[11:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> *on that front as well
[11:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, say you like me, it might scare me :P
[11:52] <Hobbsee> huh?
[11:52] <Hobbsee> hi Mez
[11:52] <Mez> hiya sarah hows things?
[11:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Mez
[11:52] <Hobbsee> Mez: just reinstalled dapper...so things are tiny!
[11:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, fixing your comp isnt scary - its what i do always
[11:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:53] <Hobbsee> true
[11:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbl. jaro if i dont get back in time - good luck :P)
[11:53] <Mez> hi Kamping_Kaiser - long time
[11:53] <jaro> ^^
[11:53] <jaro> thx
[11:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mez, very much.. brb ;)
[11:53] <imbrandon> besides du-h how can i tell the size of a dir ? ( command line )
[11:54] <jaro> http://pastebin.com/711105
[11:54] <ahmeni> imbrandon: what's wrong with du?
[11:54] <imbrandon> uncomment all those deb and deb-src lines
[11:55] <imbrandon> and change em to dapper ( the ones that arent )
[11:55] <imbrandon> then things should be smooth
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> *sigh* i hate you debian stable
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Mez . hows it been going?
[11:59] <Mez> Kamping_Kaiserok, been better] 
[11:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> bugger. hope its nothing permenant
[12:06] <wk2001> hi @ all! i've a big problem (under breezy 5.10) my kde desktop isn't starting anymore, when i start kdm it loads, but when i login it hangs up at the second symbol and nothing happens...
[12:06] <wk2001> can somebody help me?
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> what is the second symbol?
[12:11] <wk2001> the one with "system services loading"
[12:11] <wk2001> i have a german kde version, in germen it is "systemdienste werden geladen"
[12:12] <wk2001> my .xsession-erreros contains following line: xset:  bad font path element (#70)
[12:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> wk2001, has this just stopped working after a recent upgrade?
[12:13] <wk2001> yes i made a dist-upgrade, because i didn't it long time
[12:14] <OdyX> http://www.google.com/trends?q=Ubuntu%2C+Debian%2C+Kubuntu&ctab=2&date=all&geo=all <- What do you think about it ? Work to do, huh ?
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> wk2001, are you running a stable breezy, or did you install something extra like the new kde
[12:15] <wk2001> hehe - i had the 3.4.2 yesterday, but as the problem appered, i thought, maybe i install the 3.5.2 because on my notebook it works fine with dapper - but with 3.5.2 i had the same problem
[12:16] <wk2001> i also tried to remove (with --purge) kdm and kdesktop - after reinstall no success
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> wk2001, have you looked in lauchpad for a bug report?
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> wk2001, i cant realy help with this by the sound of it. heres LP -  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[12:17] <wk2001> no, can you tell me where please?
[12:17] <jaro> I can't VI anymore
[12:17] <jaro> its gone
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, pardon?
[12:17] <jaro> Vim
[12:17] <jaro> the textfile editor
[12:17] <jaro> its gone
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> gone or lower priority?
[12:18] <jaro> cant open it anymore from bash
[12:18] <jaro> says its not in /usr/bin
[12:18] <jaro> but it used to be
[12:18] <jaro> must be because of upgrading
[12:18] <jaro> is there any alternative ?
[12:18] <wk2001> Kamping_Kaiser - thx but do you know where to find the fonts-directory - maybe some rights for the directory are wrong?
[12:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> bizare. jaro try `apt-get install vim` and see what happens
[12:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> wk2001, i have no idea, sorry. i'm totaly out of my depth with your probmel. perhaps try #kubuntu-de
[12:19] <wk2001> ok thy again
[12:20] <jaro> hm i cant do that right now, because i am still upgrading
[12:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, does `which vim` give you anything?
[12:21] <jaro> no, only whereis
[12:21] <jaro> vim: /usr/bin/vim.basic /usr/bin/vim /etc/vim /usr/bin/X11/vim.basic /usr/bin/X11/vim /usr/share/vim /usr/share/man/man1/vim.1.gz
[12:21] <jaro> vim works
[12:21] <jaro> but not vi
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, right.
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, wait untill it finishes upgrading
[12:22] <jaro> yea
[12:25] <_root> hello/hola
[12:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi _root
[12:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi bimberi
[12:25] <bimberi> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[12:26] <_root> can you paste your sources-list for me?
[12:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> !sources
[12:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:27] <_root> thx ubotu
[12:27] <imbrandon> !botsnack
[12:27] <ubotu> :)
[12:35] <_antonio> Hola mundo
[12:35] <jaro> UPDATE complete :)
[12:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, :D
[12:41] <Vampis> Kamping_Kaiser: :)
[12:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Vampis :)
[12:42] <Vampis> Whazap ?
[12:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> just trying to fix a debian backports problem at work  :( but im feeling pretty good after last night
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> self?
[12:44] <Vampis> Just writing a projectreport..
[12:44] <sege> I'm having trouble with katapult in dapper, both on i386 and PPC but I cant find any known problem. alt+space doesn't give me shit and if I change key combination i'm not happier, still no katapult window. Known problems i've missed?
[12:45] <jaro> Ok, now I install kubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> sege, are your systems up to date?
[12:46] <sege> Kamping_Kaiser: updated like a week ago.
[12:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> sege, bummer, i cant blame it on that then :)
[12:46] <sege> heh =)
[12:47] <sege> if i force in katapult from breezy with --force-depends it works.
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> sege, looked for bugs?
[12:48] <sege> yes
[12:48] <sege> aja, rebuild katapult from breezy to dapper then. =)
[12:49] <sege> i cant live without katapult
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> Just load it first from utilities then save your session
[12:52] <sege> h3sp4wn: was that for me? katapult is running, that's not the problem.
[12:52] <jaro> ok
[12:52] <jaro> Kubuntu-desktop installed
[12:52] <imbrandon> [05:46]  <sege> Kamping_Kaiser: updated like a week ago.  <-- and if your talking about dapper thats a LONG time , it has almost hourly updates
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> imbrandon, techniclaly updates every 10 minutes wehn the master server syncs ;)
[12:52] <imbrandon> heh
[12:52] <jaro> now i include the other reposes for update
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, :)
[12:53] <sege> imbrandon: i know, but the katapult problem is around 2 months old when i used dapper on ppc for the first time and i havent found any updates for katapult. maybe some other lovely libs or something though.
[12:54] <nbdy> I cant install kubuntu(6.06 - i368 - dvd iso) :( it stops at "Loading linux kernel... Okay." after that nothing happens
[12:54] <imbrandon> try to use acpi=off
[12:54] <imbrandon> nbdy, acpi=off might help
[12:55] <jaro> something has already changed
[12:55] <jaro> adept looks different
[12:55] <nbdy> okay thanks
[12:55] <imbrandon> as a kernel option
[12:55] <jaro> im excited
[12:56] <jaro> will you be online later Kamping_Kaiser  ?
[12:56] <jaro> i need to install the new graphics driver
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, um. yes more or less for trhe next 4 -6 hours
[12:57] <jaro> hm, i have to go in about half an hour
[12:57] <jaro> i will restart now
[12:57] <jaro> wish me luck
[12:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> gl mate. hope to see you soon :)
[12:57] <jaro> :)
[01:03] <jaro> bakc
[01:03] <jaro> with Dapper
[01:03] <jaro> ;-)
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, awsome :D
[01:04] <jaro> ^^
[01:04] <jaro> even FF1.5 installed already
[01:05] <jaro> and i saw wireless config tools
[01:05] <jaro> yum
[01:05] <jaro> all i need now is the graphics driver
[01:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, unless you want the 'it came out yesterday' driver, its in restricted
[01:06] <jaro> i downloaded the source
[01:06] <jaro> from VIA
[01:06] <jaro> thats why we started the whole upgrade thing.. because i was unable to compile
[01:07] <jaro> so, you think its already in here ?
[01:08] <jaro> let me check
[01:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> um. whats your video card?
[01:09] <jaro> Via S3 Unichrome
[01:09] <jaro> :(
[01:09] <jaro> Integrated
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> S3. never tried to do a custom install for them ;o
[01:10] <jaro> wish i could change
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> why cant you? motherboard to old? :(
[01:12] <jaro> Laptop
[01:12] <jaro> integrated VideoCard
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh :s
[01:12] <jaro> :/
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm lucky - my lappy has a radion 7500
[01:14] <jaro> :)
[01:14] <jaro> ok, lets try to compile the source
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe. hi porno
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, yep
[01:15] <jaro> hmm.. linux kernel not found again
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, does the driver source come in a deb?
[01:16] <jaro> requested install
[01:16] <jaro> no
[01:16] <jaro> its source
[01:16] <jaro> no package
[01:17] <jaro> because the driver is only available as package for other distris but ubuntu
[01:17] <jaro> I have to admit , i Love to install new software on linux
[01:17] <njan> anyone in here have any idea why the Import Messages option in kmail may be greyed out?
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> for kernel source need kernel-source-`uname -r` and kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc
[01:17] <jaro> :)
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> (sorry, im doing 4 things at a time, so ping me when you want me :D)
[01:23] <TotuusKauneus> Hi!
[01:24] <jaro> btw, what is the difference between 386 and 686 ?
[01:24] <ahmeni> omgomgomgomgomgomg!
[01:24] <jaro> and which should i choose ?
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> jarle, 686 is optomised for Intel chips - pentium and above
[01:24] <jaro> ah ok
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> TotuusKauneus, hi
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> ahmeni, hm?
[01:24] <ahmeni> finally have direct rendering for my card! hooray for dapper!
[01:24] <jaro> since i have AMD, i should go for 386
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, what amd?
[01:24] <jaro> yay @ahmeni
[01:25] <TotuusKauneus> jaro, 686 is backwards compatible with 386, but not vice versa.
[01:25] <jaro> Athlon XP
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, get a k7 kernel
[01:25] <jaro> its laptop
[01:25] <ahmeni> been hell trying to do opengl work without it.. and now i sleep
[01:25] <TotuusKauneus> Any idea how can I access info files froom kde?
[01:25] <TotuusKauneus> I need to read the recode info file, and I _really_ don't like the command line utility....
[01:26] <jaro> k7 kernel ?
[01:26] <jaro> once again ?
[01:26] <jaro> another kernel ?
[01:27] <jaro> wb imb
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> k7
[01:27] <TotuusKauneus> The trouble is, KHelp nor konqueror don't find the file...
[01:28] <jaro> how do i get a k7 kernel ?
[01:28] <jaro> and have it installed ?
[01:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.15.22-k7 or similar
[01:30] <OutoLumo> HELP!-) I need to access recode info files and don't like the command line!
[01:31] <jaro> linux-image or kernel-image ?
[01:31] <jaro> linux-image-2.6.15-22-k7
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> OutoLumo, bugger eh
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats a recode info file?
[01:33] <jaro> this is the driver: Linux-FBDev-kernel-src_2.6.00.02
[01:33] <OutoLumo> info file format is the GNU successor for man format, i.e. application man pages. Info file is is the corresponding file.
[01:33] <jaro> maybe it needs the 2.6.00.02 sources ??
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, got a link to where you found the source?
[01:34] <jaro> yep
[01:34] <jaro> wait
[01:36] <jaro> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=102
[01:36] <jaro> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&Type=3
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> looking
[01:37] <jaro> thx
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, what card is yours exactly? 'ill get the same package
[01:42] <jaro> S3 Unichrome
[01:42] <jaro> KN400/....
[01:43] <jaro> :/
[01:44] <jaro> its the first link i gave you
[01:44] <jaro> there you can download the same file
[01:44] <nbdy> it worked :3
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> nbdy, ?
[01:45] <nbdy> acpi disabled
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, ah, i had addblocked the image :o
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> nbdy,  :)
[01:46] <jaro> oh lol
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, so do you have the source for the kernel yet?
[01:50] <jaro> yes
[01:50] <jaro> got it
[01:50] <jaro> for actual kernel-2.15.22
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool. i have the readme for the modules open next to me, so we can do it.
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:50] <jaro> 386 as well as k7
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, are you running a k7 or 386 kernel now? you want to run the kernel yoru compiling for
[01:51] <jaro> 386
[01:51] <jaro> so should we switch to k7 first then ?
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. we should be ok.
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> usualy ok, but if it fails strangely swithch
[01:51] <jaro> how do i switch ?
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, reboot
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb Palpatine
[01:53] <jaro> ok
[01:53] <jaro> wait
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok.
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb m0ns00n
[01:58] <jaro> re
[01:58] <jaro> with k7
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb :)
[01:58] <jaro> :)
[01:58] <jaro> ok, we can start now
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> so cd into /usr/src/
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> then run `ls` and tell me what you get
[01:59] <jaro> linux-headers-2.6.12-9      linux-headers-2.6.15-22      linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[01:59] <jaro> linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386  linux-headers-2.6.15-22-686  linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2
[02:00] <jaro> maybe i should uninstall the old kernel sources
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can leave them, but you do need the sources for your running kernel
[02:00] <jaro> that would be linux-source-2.6.15.
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> jarle, you want linux-source-`uname -r`
[02:01] <jaro> uname -r = 2.6.15-22-k7
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> that looks correct
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, if you need me say my name. i'm just reading something
[02:03] <DeadS0ul> i'm instlal linux-image-2.6.15-22-686 right now XD
[02:03] <jaro> but there is only kernel source for 2.6.15
[02:03] <jaro> Kamping_Kaiser:
[02:03] <jaro> so this must be the right Kernel Source
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, whats wrong?
[02:04] <jaro> it must be the right kernel source
[02:04] <jaro> can we proceed with the driver installation ?
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> let me check
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> that must be it jaro
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb Hobbsee
[02:05] <DeadS0ul> man musicbrainz still doesn't work =(
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> gl with your testing ;)
[02:05] <Hobbsee> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[02:05] <Hobbsee> ndiswrapper seems to hate me today :(
[02:06] <jaro> ah, ok, im downloading the RIGHT kernel headers ^^
[02:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee,  :( i still like you
[02:06] <jaro> ok got them
[02:06] <DeadS0ul> crap it works in amarok but not in juk /cry
[02:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, so what do you have in /usr/src/ related to 2.6.15 now?
[02:08] <jaro> linux-headers-2.6.15-22      linux-headers-2.6.15-22-k7   linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2
[02:08] <jaro> linux-headers-2.6.15-22-686  linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[02:08] <PascalFR_> hi all, anyone to confirm this bug on dapper ?  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg/+bug/37992
[02:08] <jaro> source and headers
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, make a symlink from linux-headers-2.6.15-22-k7 to 'linux'
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> bug 37992
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> grr. no ubugtu
[02:09] <jaro> linux ??
[02:10] <jaro> and you mean :  -l linux..bla...
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, with `ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-22-k7 /usr/src/linux`
[02:10] <jaro> but what is 'linux' ?
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, the name of our link. its what we use for compiling
[02:11] <jaro> sorry
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, open up the readme. starting line 234 :)
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> brb. gettinga  drink again
[02:11] <jaro> ln -s  linux-headers-2.6.15-22-k7 /usr/src/linux
[02:11] <jaro> ok, its done
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> now cd /usr/src/linux
[02:13] <jaro> yep
[02:13] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: how odd. it seems to be working now.
[02:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/711286
[02:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, :) must be my charming presents :P
[02:14] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:16] <jaro> what am I actually doing right now ?
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, following the readme
[02:16] <jaro> ok whats next ?
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> i forgot to check though - do you have build-essential installed?
[02:16] <jaro> i installed it back when i was running the older kernel
[02:18] <jaro> it is installed
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, have you looked at that pastebin just above?
[02:19] <jaro> yes
[02:19] <jaro> all done
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats the relevent bit of the readme that i can tell
[02:20] <jaro> where did you get the readme ?
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> jarle, in the directory with the source for the kernel module
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> it has a make file in there as well.
[02:23] <jaro> trying to make source
[02:24] <jaro> and make install
[02:24] <jaro> which works, so far :)
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) good luck
[02:27] <jaro> hmm, what changes after the modprobe ?
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> if it loads ok, then you can make the needed changes to xorg.conf and restart x
[02:28] <jaro> yep
[02:28] <jaro> :)
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> then in theory we are set up and ready to go
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:29] <jaro> hope to see you soon
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck :)
[02:29] <jaro> oh wait i only have to start x again, right ?
[02:29] <Vampis> *yawn*
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep
[02:29] <jaro> how can i do that ?
[02:29] <jaro> logoff ?
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> Vampis, your not weakening???
[02:29] <Vampis> hm ?
[02:30] <Vampis> weakening ?
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, log out, drop into a vc (ctrl+alt+f2), login and type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> :/
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> Vampis, yeh. a yawm
[02:30] <Vampis> :)
[02:30] <Vampis> I slept bad this night
[02:30] <Vampis> just 1 hour
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah :(
[02:30] <Vampis> and 2 left @ school
[02:31] <Vampis> Fu**ing KNOTES
[02:31] <Vampis> *throws the computer in the floor*
[02:32] <Vampis> When I create a note in knotes... it looks ok... It's there
[02:33] <Vampis> next time i start it, thers 3 of m
[02:33] <Vampis> the SAME note
[02:33] <Vampis> I remove 2... next time.. 3AGAIN
[02:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> LOL
[02:33] <Vampis> *goes to the store to buy some post-it's to put on the screen*
[02:34] <Vampis> a milo ?
[02:35] <Hobbsee> you dont have milo there???
[02:35] <bimberi> it's marvellous ... :)
[02:35] <Vampis> Whats MIlo ?
[02:35] <joscha> anybody using kdevelop on dapper?
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, not at the hut, no :\ (or in the shed, for that matter)
[02:35] <Hobbsee> hi bimberi
[02:35] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:35] <bimberi> hi Hobbsee
[02:35] <bimberi> :)
[02:35] <Vampis> someone can explain to me what a milo is ? :P
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> Vampis, *gasp*
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> :p
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> its a chocolate type drink.
[02:36] <Vampis> aha ok
[02:36] <Vampis> I prefere coffee
[02:36] <bimberi> Vampis: chocolate powder that you mix with milk (usually)
[02:36] <Vampis> ah
[02:37] <Vampis> Why  ? :)
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> coffee. evil stuff
[02:37] <bimberi> good for when you're tired after a trip to Maree :P
[02:37] <jaro> hum
[02:38] <Vampis> Kamping_Kaiser: It's god's gift to the programmer ;)
[02:38] <bimberi> *Marree*
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe. you got it bimberi
[02:38] <jaro> how do I have to alter xorg.conf ??
[02:38] <kkathman> morning all
[02:38] <Vampis> how to alter it, or what to alter ?
[02:38] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: onya! (and lucychilli and ...)
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> Vampis, i would have thought god would have a better preasant.
[02:38] <jaro> in which way to alter it
[02:38] <jaro> so it fits my new driver
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi, in #technest. the organiser of the trip
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:39] <jaro> because I exchanged: 'via' with 'viafb'
[02:39] <jaro> thx
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb Hobbsee
[02:39] <bimberi> wb Hobbsee
[02:39] <Vampis> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf , CTRL+A , DEL, CTRL+S, ALT+F4
[02:39] <Vampis> ;)
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> and i will stop saying it if you keep join/parting ;)
[02:40] <Hobbsee> heya...
[02:40] <Hobbsee> interesting...sound seems okay now...
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> Vampis, dont joke ;) people trust you (someone must)
[02:40] <Hobbsee> Vampis: dont you dare.
[02:40] <Vampis> Kamping_Kaiser: lol ;)
[02:40] <Vampis> Hobbsee: what? :)
[02:41] <Hobbsee> your earlier command - telling that to others...
[02:41] <Vampis> sorry
[02:41] <Vampis> :)
[02:42] <Hobbsee> :P
[02:42] <Hobbsee> mind you, i almost deleted my entire /home dir yesterday...by accident...
[02:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, but thats *your* home :)
[02:42] <Hobbsee> hehe...true...
[02:42] <Hobbsee> now, what was i next going to install?
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, sanity?
[02:44] <Hobbsee> hmmm...
[02:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Chameleon22
[02:45] <nino> hi all
[02:46] <Vampis> hi
[02:46] <Vampis> bye ?
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[02:46] <DeadS0ul> hooka
[02:48] <jaro> arg
[02:49] <jaro> what was that command for reconfiguring ?
[02:49] <jaro> when i tried to automatically check for monitor, the screen went black
[02:49] <bimberi> !xorg
[02:49] <ubotu> xorg is, like, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[02:53] <chowells2> sladen: yo. regarding the ThinkPad X60s  hibernate button, the problem appears to be that acpi_fakekey does absolutely nothing; do you have any ideas which might cause that (otherwise I'll just file the bug report)
[02:54] <Chameleon22> sup Kamping_Kaiser
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> just abusing Hobbsee . how about you? :)
[02:55] <Hobbsee> heh
[02:55] <bimberi> lol
[02:56] <sladen> chowells2: . /usr/share/acpi-support/key-constants ; sudo acpi_fakekey $KEY_SUSPEND should work fine.  A bigger question is whether anything in KDE is listening to it
[02:56] <sladen> chowells2: or at least that's my suspicion
[02:58] <jaro> hmm
[02:58] <jaro> ok
[02:58] <chowells2> sladen: no, problem is 'sudo acpi_fakekey 205' (that's the value of $KEY_SUSPEND) does nothing :)
[02:59] <sladen> chowells2: sudo hexdump -C /dev/input/event* &  and then do it
[03:01] <chowells2> sladen: would appear not to make any difference in the hexdump output
[03:01] <chowells2> sladen: though it's a bit noisy due to pressing other buttons, and I'm not sure what to look for here
[03:03] <sladen> sudo hexdump -C /dev/input/event* & sleep 1 ; clear ; sleep 1 ; sudo acpi_fakekey 205 ; echo -e '\n\n\n\n' ?
[03:06] <chowells2> sladen:
[03:06] <chowells2> 00000030  b9 36 63 44 00 a4 0b 00  01 00 cd 00 01 00 00 00  |.6cD............|
[03:06] <chowells2> 00000040  b9 36 63 44 bb a4 0b 00  01 00 cd 00 00 00 00 00  |.6cD............|
[03:06] <chowells2> (plus 4 snipped \n's)
[03:06] <sladen> excellent, seems to have worked.
[03:07] <sladen> need to find out what  XF86KeySymbol  klaptopdaemon is actually listening for
[03:07] <sladen> the gnome stuff uses HAL to turn those keypresses into nice strings
[03:09] <jaro> here is a problem
[03:09] <chowells2> sladen: so acpi_fakekey is meant to call some GNOME or KDE program to actually invoke sleep?
[03:09] <jaro> whenever I log off, the screen wents black
[03:09] <jaro> goes
[03:10] <sladen> chowells2: nope, acpi_fakekey should probably be called  evdev_fakekey or some such.  It just 'presses a key'.  It's up to other programs to actually listen for the key
[03:10] <sladen> chowells2: in the case of gnome-power-manager;  hal does the listening for the key-press and turns that into a string (you can see this by watching:  lshal -m)  which gome-power-manager then listens for
[03:11] <sladen> chowells2: there's lots of layers of abstraction and the one that is currently missing is the mapping from kernel keycodes to X keysymbols
[03:11] <sladen> which is I suspect what kfoo is listening for
[03:14] <chowells2> sladen: right ok. I don't use klaptopdaemon since it's horrible. I can see from 'tail -f /var/log/acpid' that when I do press Fn+F12, I get "executing action "/etc/acpi/hibernatebtn.sh"". Assming hibernatebtn.sh does actually get called, 'acpi_fakekey 205' should be called. But this final step seems to fail for whatever reason
[03:16] <chowells2> sladen: or is my lack of klaptopdaemon the problem
[03:16] <chowells2> (klaptopdaemon doesn't actually want to run for me though)
[03:17] <chowells2> ah yes, there it is
[03:17] <chowells2> no difference
[03:17] <jaro> ahh im going crazy
[03:17] <Hobbsee> crimsun: you around at all?
[03:18] <Hobbsee> !sound
[03:18] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:18] <Hobbsee> this is one of the weirdest sound problesm i've ever had...
[03:18] <sladen> chowells2: can you  apt-get source klaptopdeamon and grep -r  XF86  and work out what keycode it is expecting to hear
[03:18] <chowells2> sladen: sure
[03:20] <chowells2> sladen: grep -r XF86 in the klaptop source dir returns nothing; the problem is that klaptopdaemon doesn't listen for key codes
[03:22] <chowells2> sladen: A while since I looked at the (horrible) klaptopdaemon source, but afaik all it does is parse /proc to obtain battery information, and provide menu options for hibernate (which is invoked with klaptop_acpi_helper)
[03:23] <sladen> chowells2: "..."
[03:24] <chowells2> ... ? ;)
[03:24] <sladen> chowells2: mmm.  Which is pretty much what riddell said from the other side of the room too :)
[03:24] <chowells2> sladen: heh
[03:25] <sladen> chowells2: If you fancy doing a patch, I suspect it could be slipped in since it doesn't change the user-interface in anyway and just requires listening for keypresses
[03:25] <gil_> hello
[03:25] <sladen> chowells2: definately file it as a bug and then we have something to point people at
[03:25] <gil_> I am kind of new to thiis as most of you have figured out...but i am having some problems with kaudiocreator
[03:26] <chowells2> sladen: right ok. Personally I hate klaptopdaemon so much I wrote a replacement :) But I'll have a look
[03:26] <gil_> do i need to install lame
[03:26] <gil_> ?
[03:26] <gil_> is it not installed already
[03:27] <gil_> how do i rip using Lame encoder?
[03:27] <chowells2> sladen: it would make more sense to make a kded module to do monitoring for key codes; I guess that would be too late to get into dapper?
[03:28] <sladen> chowells2: does kmilo do anything useful in that department?
[03:28] <chowells2> sladen: I'm not sure actually, I'll have a look
[03:29] <sladen> chowells2: ideally for the next version I'd like to move things like this into core system-daemons and away from the GUI front-ends;  but a solution needs to be found for dapper (and least intrusive the better)
[03:29] <chowells2> sladen: right. Yes definitely the way to go (in fact, I thought it was the way things happened now for some reason)
[03:30] <chowells2> sladen: I know certain KDE people don't use klaptopdaemon since it does loads of funky stupid stuff and uses an insance amount of CPU doing so, which is rather counter productive on a laptop
[03:30] <freeflying> seaLne: ping
[03:33] <gil_> can someone help me with getting the mp3 encoder set up please?
[03:34] <chowells2> sladen: ergh, this is horrible. From lshal it seems hal does monitoring of the battery status (which it must do by parsing /proc). In addition, klaptopdaemon parses /proc... a complete waste of resources on a laptop :(
[03:37] <jaro> well at least enigma runs with the via driver now
[03:39] <sladen> chowells2: hal doesn't parse /proc... it uses ACPI events coming in
[03:39] <sladen> chowells2: which the battery/bios generate every 5 seconds, or when the state changes
[03:40] <sladen> chowells2: the parsing /proc is going to be less efficient and more likely to be wrong
[03:40] <sladen> gil_: add multiverse and grab stuff
[03:40] <chowells2> sladen: oh ok. I thought the only way to get the info on Linux was via /proc. Parsing /proc is HORRIBLY inefficient, it even causes crashes and hangs if you do it too frequently
[03:41] <gil_> i added multiverse
[03:41] <jaro> windows are still too big here
[03:41] <gil_> what am i supposed to get to have kaudiocreator rip mp3's
[03:41] <sladen> chowells2: you can do  sudo tail -f /var/log/acpid  to see the events coming in
[03:42] <chowells2> sladen: ok thanks. I'm a FreeBSD normally, so this is all mostly new ;)
[03:44] <chowells2> FreeBSD person, even
[03:45] <DeadS0ul> whoa, kbuntu comes with teh nvidia drivers
[03:45] <DeadS0ul> SWEET =D
[03:46] <mhterres> morning
[03:47] <jaro> hmm can someone help me to install java SDK from Sun ? I cant find it in the repositories
[03:49] <Sputnik_NL> Good afternoon everybody
[03:53] <Sputnik_NL> I'm running Kubuntu on a machine with 512mb RAM, I also have a machine with only 256 mb RAM (I want to use that one for my studies, so I'll mainly use OpenOffice.org, IM and internet browsing). What is wise to use on this machine?
[03:58] <Sputnik_NL> anyone with some suggestions?
[03:58] <xwolf-> my media:/ place isnt showing my hard disks and CD/DVD drives, it only shows my floppy drive, how do i fix that?
[03:59] <Sputnik_NL> put a cd/dvd in your drives
[04:00] <Sputnik_NL> and you'll see it
[04:00] <xwolf-> Sputnik_NL it doesnt.
[04:00] <Sputnik_NL> do you have a pc or a laptop?
[04:01] <xwolf-> plus, it SHOULD list my hard drives as well, since they are all mounted. i have a pc
[04:01] <xwolf-> by hard drives i meant partitions.
[04:01] <bkn> hi all, does anyone know how to remove the google search box from konqueror? I tried looking through the configure toolbar menus but i couldn't find it.
[04:01] <Sputnik_NL> ok I understand you
[04:01] <Sputnik_NL> I'll look into some things xwolf- one moment please
[04:02] <xwolf-> ok
[04:04] <Sputnik_NL> xwolf-: you find anything of your problem here? http://bugs.kde.org/simple_search.cgi?id=media%3A%2F&openonly=1
[04:06] <Sputnik_NL> you might also try to disable the "HAL Backend" en see if you see your partitions/drives then
[04:10] <xwolf-> lemme see
[04:11] <Sputnik_NL> yes please
[04:13] <xwolf-> well, Sputnik_NL, i just put an audio cd in both DVD/CD-RW and CD-ROM drives, and it's showing properly
[04:13] <Sputnik_NL> good
[04:13] <xwolf-> but now i just put a dvd-r with a bunch of avi files, and i get an error
[04:13] <xwolf-> looks like it isnt being mounted
[04:13] <Sputnik_NL> that's weird, what kind of error do you get?
[04:14] <xwolf-> Error loading media:/hdc
[04:14] <Sputnik_NL> (ayway) what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[04:14] <xwolf-> The file or directory media:/hdc does not exist
[04:14] <Sputnik_NL> yes that seems like a mounting failure
[04:14] <xwolf-> (translating it from portuguese). i use breezy
[04:14] <Sputnik_NL> the media: is just a link to your /dev/ map
[04:15] <xwolf-> think i should mount it manually?
[04:15] <Sputnik_NL> ok I see, well I'm afraid that it might be a problem with breezy
[04:15] <Sputnik_NL> you can try that
[04:15] <Sputnik_NL> (my HAL suggestion was only for Dapper I'm sorry)
[04:15] <xwolf-> i didnt try it anyway.
[04:15] <Sputnik_NL> you might also try to (if you have a fast internet connection) to download the flight 7 of Dapper and see if it works there
[04:16] <Sputnik_NL> dapper will be there beginning of June, and it might just *work-around* your problem
[04:16] <Sputnik_NL> safes you a lot of time
[04:16] <joel_> hello, all.
[04:16] <Sputnik_NL> hey joel_
[04:16] <joel_> YES!!!  I AM CONNECTED!!!
[04:16] <xwolf-> Sputnik_NL when dapper comes out, i'll just have to dist-upgrade, right?
[04:18] <Sputnik_NL> you need to change your source.list to dapper first
[04:18] <joel_> I'm running dapper 6.06.  Installed flight 6 ubuntu and then, instead of installing kubuntu-desktop, I just installed KDE and I can configure whatever programs I want without having to worry about dependancies!  This is GREAT!
[04:18] <jaro> Kamping_Kaiser:  you still there ??
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, sort of
[04:18] <Sputnik_NL> Glad you're happy joel_
[04:19] <xwolf-> Sputnik_NL mounting it manually did the trick.
[04:19] <joel_> I sure am.
[04:19] <joel_> however, I'm not here to gloat.
[04:19] <joel_> There is one thing I'm stuck on.
[04:19] <joel_> hopefully, someone can direct me to the right place.
[04:19] <DeadS0ul> =P
[04:19] <Sputnik_NL> good, xwolf- Right now I can't figure the problem for you, glad you get it working now though
[04:20] <Sputnik_NL> tell me joel_
[04:20] <joel_> wine.
[04:20] <xwolf-> thanks for the help.
[04:20] <Sputnik_NL> no problem
[04:20] <jaro> Kamping_Kaiser:  hmm would you be willing to help get Java and Netbeans installed ?
[04:20] <joel_> I am running the only linux box on an all XP network.
[04:20] <DeadS0ul> java
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell jaro about java
[04:20] <Sputnik_NL> Samba is your friend Joel_
[04:20] <joel_> I need to get one of my wine aps to get access to a file on the network.
[04:21] <joel_> I have samba.
[04:21] <Sputnik_NL> ow I see
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> jaro, yes i am willing.
[04:21] <DeadS0ul> sun-j2re1.5 - Java(TM) 2 RE, Standard Edition, Sun Microsystems(TM)
[04:21] <DeadS0ul> sun-j2sdk1.5 - Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Edition, Sun Microsystems(TM)
[04:21] <joel_> but I can't seem to get it to jive with wine.
[04:21] <DeadS0ul> install those packages..
[04:21] <jaro> thanks :)
[04:21] <Sputnik_NL> sorry joel_ I got no experience with wine and windows networks
[04:21] <jaro> i dont have the right repository yet
[04:21] <jaro> istn RE included with SDK ?
[04:21] <DeadS0ul> it's probably universe or whateve rit's called
[04:21] <Sputnik_NL> basicly I think it should just link the two, but I understand taht isn't happening
[04:22] <joel_> you are correct Sput.
[04:22] <DeadS0ul> probably, it's most likely a dependencie, use apt-cache show to find out
[04:22] <Sputnik_NL> I understand joel_ sorry can't help you with this
[04:22] <joel_> I read in the ubuntu web forums that i need to create a... what is it called...
[04:22] <joel_> um...
[04:23] <joel_> tip of my tongue...
[04:23] <Sputnik_NL> let it roll of ;)
[04:23] <gs> ge
[04:23] <joel_> a SYMBOLIC link.
[04:23] <gs> sorry
[04:23] <gs> ca  someone help me with kaudiocreator
[04:24] <Sputnik_NL> a symbolic link between your network and wine?
[04:24] <joel_> yeah.
[04:24] <Hoobly> is there a rocommended source for getting kaffeine-xine?
[04:24] <jaro> DeadS0ul: I only can find the blackdown J2sdk in my repos
[04:24] <Sputnik_NL> I'm not so sure joel_
[04:25] <joel_> supposedly, I need to create a link in my /home/joel/.wine/dosdevices folder and name it "x:", linking it to a folder on my network.
[04:25] <Sputnik_NL> I don't know much about wine in the first place, I won't recommend you thing, afraid something goes wrong
[04:25] <joel_> yeah...
[04:25] <joel_> it looked screwy to me too.
[04:26] <joel_> is there a wine chat?
[04:26] <Hobbsee> !+wine
[04:26] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility for running windows programs on linux.  Get the latest .deb from http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ . This thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 - has details for installation and setup using winetools. More info at http://www.winehq.org or for support go to #winehq.
[04:26] <DeadS0ul> add thius line to your sources.list and try againdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[04:26] <joel_> ubotu.  Very helpful.
[04:27] <joel_> hey, DeadS0ul,
[04:27] <DeadS0ul> yeah?
[04:27] <zm0> joel_: you could mount your network share to e.g /mnt/share and then symlink $HOME/.wine/dosdevices/x: to it
[04:27] <joel_> why not just apt-get update?
[04:27] <DeadS0ul> add it and then you can apt-get update =P
[04:31] <jaro> !javadebs
[04:33] <joel_> hmmmmm.... zm0
[04:33] <joel_> I'm trying.
[04:35] <joel_> I'm lost.
[04:35] <joel_> how do I do that?
[04:35] <zm0> joel_: make a symlink, you mean?
[04:36] <joel_> yeah.  That and mount
[04:36] <joel_> lol.
[04:36] <skipjack> who can I install an LAMP on Kubuntu? which packages must I install with apt-get ?
[04:36] <zm0> joel_: :)
[04:36] <joel_> I'm in the terminal.  I'm looking at mount --help
[04:36] <visik7> skipjack: apt-get install php should install all the things you need
[04:36] <visik7> ah
[04:37] <zm0> joel_: first make a mount point somewhere: sudo mkdir /mnt/share for example
[04:37] <visik7> and mysql
[04:37] <joel_> I did that.
[04:37] <skipjack> visik7: gives me an error: E: Packet PHP not found
[04:37] <visik7> php4
[04:38] <zm0> joel_: then mount the share mount -t smbfs -o username=<yourwindowsusername> //servername/sharename /mnt/share
[04:38] <njan> visik7, and php4-mysql
[04:38] <njan> visik7, and apache2
[04:38] <visik7> php4 depends on httpd and apache resolve that deps
[04:39] <njan> It doesn't install the mysql plugin though
[04:39] <njan> and I'm not convinced - I have more than one system with php and !httpd
[04:39] <joel_> I guess I need to look at smb.conf a little harder.
[04:39] <visik7> no, depends on apache2-mpm-prefork
[04:40] <joel_> my windows network has a name, but doesn't require logins.
[04:40] <njan> Depends: libapache-mod-php4 (>= 4:4.3.10-16) | libapache2-mod-php4 (>= 4:4.3.10-16)
[04:40] <njan> s/apache2-mpm-prefork/libapache/
[04:42] <zm0> joel_: then you could make it look like: -o username=guest,password=""
[04:43] <joel_> hmmm....
[04:45] <joel_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock...
[04:45] <raven301> Hi ... new to kubuntu ....
[04:46] <joel_> hi, raven.
[04:46] <zm0> joel_: you probably need to sudo apt-get install smbfs first
[04:46] <raven301> Is there Xchat for Kubuntu 6.06 Flight 7 ... the only one I get is xchat-gnome when I apt-get or search?
[04:46] <raven301> Hi joel_
[04:47] <joel_> duh...
[04:47] <zm0> hi raven301 xchat is a gtk/gnome app but you can use it in kde...
[04:49] <DeadS0ul> Raven301: konversation konverastion konverstaion konversation konversation
[04:49] <joel_> btw...
[04:49] <Raven301> zm0: yes ... I know but don't like xchat-gnome ...just want xchat
[04:49] <Raven301> DeadS0ul: thanks but no thanks :)
[04:49] <DeadS0ul> =\
[04:50] <joel_> my Konquer reads: smb://<computer name>/<folder>
[04:50] <Nookie^> can anyone else find "deny movement of maximized windows" in window behaivor???
[04:51] <zm0> Raven301: isn't xchat-gnome == xchat? i always thought it was, what's the difference?
[04:51] <joel_> so do i use "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=guest,password="" smb://<computer name>/<folder>" or "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=guest,password="" //<network name>/<computer name>/<folder>"
[04:52] <zm0> joel_: the second one looks allright
[04:52] <joel_> I'm trying it now.
[04:52] <zm0> joel_: oops leave out the workgroup name
[04:52] <DeadS0ul> Nookie I see allow moving of maximized windows
[04:52] <DeadS0ul> moving and resizing even
[04:53] <zm0> joel_: just //computer/sharename
[04:53] <joel_> so just //<computer name>/<folder>
[04:53] <Raven301> zm0: there is a difference in look and the way it can be set up
[04:53] <joel_> gotcha.
[04:53] <Nookie^> DeadS0ul:  me 2 but i can't find anywhere "deny movement of maximized windows"
[04:53] <Nookie^> DeadS0ul:  here is why i want to test http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=39093&PHPSESSID=73b94bf2d6a18f19c736d333e60ab38b
[04:53] <DeadS0ul> thsoe two are not the same?
[04:53] <Nookie^> i dont think so
[04:54] <joel_> error.
[04:54] <joel_> of course.
[04:54] <Raven301> Where can I get a list of links to put into /etc/apt/sources.lst for kubuntu ??
[04:54] <Nookie^> !sources
[04:54] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:54] <zm0> !repositories
[04:54] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:55] <DeadS0ul> don't see it, but I'm geussing it's the same shit
[04:55] <Raven301> thanks
[04:55] <zm0> joel_: what error did you get?
[04:55] <Raven301> !easysource
[04:55] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:55] <joel_> params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: +########## Domains ###########
[04:55] <Nookie^> haha i dont know... i willtry to see =)
[04:56] <joel_> I think I know what's up.
[04:56] <Nookie^> DeadS0ul: It was it i guess =)
[04:56] <joel_> I think it's pointng to a file in that computer's "Program Files" directory.
[04:57] <Nookie^> DeadS0ul: much better looking this way =)
[04:57] <DeadS0ul> =D
[04:57] <joel_> should I use quotes for the whole string then to avoid problems with the space?
[04:58] <zm0> joel_: yeah, "//long computername/long sharename"
[05:02] <Raven301> One more ? What is the difference between kdesu and sudo??
[05:03] <nbdy> i'm trying to install kubuntu (6.06 - dvd iso - i368) but I cant come along at the point where I have to partiotion my hd. it shows me that there is a 20gb big winxp partition first and the rest is empty(correct). Then I set up a 15gb ext3 partition and a 1gb big Linux swap partition and put them after the win partition. At the next step I have to assign the mount points. There I try to set '/' - 'hda2' and 'swap' - 'hda3' but it s
[05:03] <xwolf-> kdesu is specifically for running KDE apps as Root user
[05:04] <gs> can someone tell me how to us teh LAME encoder in dapper?
[05:04] <gs> *use
[05:04] <Raven301> xwolf-: So ... does it make a difference if you either ?
[05:04] <nbdy> *want
[05:05] <xwolf-> Raven301 try 'sudo konqueror' and then try 'kdesu arp'
[05:05] <gs> please
[05:05] <gs> ?
[05:06] <xwolf-> if you want to run an app with root access, use 'kdesu APPNAME'. if you're in a terminal, 'sudo COMMAND' does what you want
[05:06] <joel_> hello?
[05:06] <Raven301> xwolf-: thanks :)
[05:06] <xwolf-> np
[05:06] <joel_> soryr...
[05:07] <joel_> not working.
[05:07] <joel_> I'll try the samba chat.
[05:09] <jaro> yes
[05:09] <jaro> Java Netbeans works
[05:09] <jaro> :)
[05:09] <DeadS0ul> anyone else in here use kaquarium?
[05:09] <GullyFoyle> how do i change the clock in the taskbar to 12 hour format? i've right-clicked and configure clock but i don't see it
[05:09] <evert_> hello all :)
[05:09] <brandon_> can i configure konqueror to use the file manager profile as default?
[05:10] <xwolf-> GullyFoyle Date and Time Format
[05:11] <GullyFoyle> cahnge to HH:MM"SS?
[05:11] <gs> can someone tell me how to us teh LAME encoder in dapper?
[05:11] <xwolf-> pH seems to be 12-hour clock.
[05:11] <GullyFoyle> i had pH but it was 24 hour
[05:11] <xwolf-> well, HH here is 24-hour.
[05:11] <xwolf-> i'm pt_BR locale though
[05:12] <xwolf-> just check it.
[05:12] <GullyFoyle> we'll see in 50 minutes here lol
[05:12] <xwolf-> heh.
[05:12] <GullyFoyle> thx
[05:12] <xwolf-> np
[05:12] <petsei> hello :)
[05:14] <gs> will someone help me out ?
[05:14] <gs> or just tell me to FOFF
[05:16] <skipjack> hello, can sombody say me what the mysql-server mysqld, root user password ist? or which user is there to connect to the db, ?
[05:16] <xwolf-> skipjack probably login ROOT password null
[05:16] <xwolf-> as in ""
[05:16] <skipjack> urghs ..
[05:17] <zm0> gs: nobody knows, otherwise they would tell you
[05:17] <zm0> !tell gs about patience
[05:17] <goldenear> I've just build twinkle 0.7.1 from sources since the binary dapper package is very old (0.4). Now I would like to build a new deb package and install it (instead of doing make install)
[05:17] <jaro> soooo
[05:18] <goldenear> is there a tutorial somewhere explaining who to create a deb package ?
[05:18] <jaro> now comes the big project
[05:18] <jaro> NeverWinter Nights
[05:18] <jaro> does anybody wanna help ?
[05:18] <gs> sorry abot patience
[05:18] <gs> problem solved
[05:18] <trollig> I just did an aptitude upgrade on dapper. Now Konqueror hangs whenever I do a right click within it.
[05:20] <trollig> it's amd64 system
[05:20] <goldenear> trollig: no such problem here (And I also just did an upgrade)
[05:20] <goldenear> but with apt-get not aptitude
[05:21] <goldenear> btw, I often have a problem with apt-get
[05:21] <goldenear> my dapper is configure with fr.archive.ubuntu.com mirror as source
[05:22] <trollig> further, my smbmounts in fstab don't work anymore either. And at boottime it sort of stops when initialising hald for a minute or so
[05:22] <goldenear> the issue is the the mirror is often off-sync
[05:22] <trollig> then it continues to boot but no smb shares mounted
[05:22] <trollig> and not mountable
[05:22] <goldenear> I mean, apt-get update find new packages
[05:22] <trollig> Heck, what changed now?
[05:22] <goldenear> but the .deb are not yet on the mirror
[05:22] <evert_> I'm having troubles with installing nvidia drivers , i tried it several times , with several wiki's but they all fail :(
[05:23] <goldenear> is it normal ?
[05:23] <evert_> can somebody help me ?
[05:23] <DeadS0ul> evert_: all you need to do is install the restricted modules package for your kernel
[05:23] <trollig> What does Riddell say to that?
[05:23] <goldenear> evert_: doesn't it work simply using the drivers from the .deb ?
[05:24] <DeadS0ul> apt-cache search linux-restrictred-modules, pick the one for your kernel =] 
[05:24] <DeadS0ul> to find out your kernel version, use uname-r
[05:24] <DeadS0ul> uname -r even
[05:24] <trollig> Ah yes, and kde starts with sort of "Prozess for the protocol system was terminated unexpectedly"
[05:26] <Hoobly> anyone have suggestions for slightly jittery dvd playback?
[05:27] <evert_> i tried installing the 'nvidia-glx' with adept , but then i can't get in x any more
[05:27] <goldenear> evert_: nvidia-glx is not enough
[05:28] <goldenear> you also need the kernel restricted modules as DeadS0ul said
[05:28] <evert_> no i' meant nvidia-glx and the nvidia-settings and the 'kernel thing'
[05:28] <zm0> Hoobly: did you enable dma for your drive yet?
[05:28] <evert_> i installed also the restricted modules
[05:28] <goldenear> oki
[05:28] <Hoobly> if you mean in the /etc/hdparm.conf file, I think I have
[05:28] <evert_> any suggestions ? I really need nvidia drivers for gaming
[05:28] <DeadS0ul> goldenear: yeah, I should know, i had to do that today after upgrading my kernel haha
[05:28] <goldenear> so try a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:29] <evert_> I did that
[05:29] <DeadS0ul> hmm yeah I did that too
[05:29] <Hoobly> I guess my question is whether /dev/hdc is the correct cd rom
[05:29] <Raven301> I was looking in /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.lst ... Which one does it read from ??
[05:29] <evert_> goldenear , i tried that already yesterday
[05:29] <DeadS0ul> alright then lookt hrough your x.org log to find out what it says
[05:29] <DeadS0ul> Raven301: sources.list
[05:29] <goldenear> try to remove the DRI option is xorg.conf
[05:30] <Raven301> DeadS0ul: Thanks :)
[05:30] <evert_> I have done that also
[05:30] <evert_> i really searched alot on it
[05:30] <skipjack> which group must I give my Documents for Apache ? and which User? because apache:apache does not exiting?
[05:30] <evert_> i tried a lot of things .. now i'm using dapper ... but i had the same problem with breezy
[05:30] <zm0> Hoobly: just put in a cd/dvd and type mount in a terminal to see if it's /dev/hdc
[05:30] <evert_> by a friend , the nvidia drivers were not a problem at all
[05:30] <DeadS0ul> what video card do you have?
[05:30] <evert_> 6800gt
[05:30] <Hoobly> zm0: yes.  that is what is shows
[05:31] <haakonn_> anyone else seeing gam_server constantly topping the list in top? i'm seeing a bug report at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gamin/+bug/36581 but i don't know any fix and since not everybody is seeing it, perhaps it is related to something kde is doing?
[05:31] <DeadS0ul> I have a 6600gt and it's working great for me >|
[05:31] <zm0> Hoobly: and what does hdparm /dev/hdc show?
[05:31] <DeadS0ul> hmm
[05:31] <DeadS0ul> check your log
[05:31] <Hoobly> it says "mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only"
[05:32] <DeadS0ul> evert_: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | tail
[05:32] <DeadS0ul> what does that give you?
[05:32] <Hoobly> zm0: using_dma = o (off)
[05:32] <Hoobly> how do I reload the /etc/hdparm.conf file?
[05:33] <evert_> DeadSOul , check private tab
[05:33] <zm0> Hoobly: enable it *live* by typing hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[05:34] <skipjack> who the fuck it the documentRoot by Kubuntu ????
[05:35] <DeadS0ul> oops..
[05:35] <DeadS0ul> he flooded out ehhe
[05:35] <joel_> skip, what do you mean?
[05:36] <skipjack> who I must copy my webside data like index.html / index.php and so on .. /var/www was it not ..
[05:36] <skipjack> in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf IO can't find something ..
[05:38] <Hoobly> zm0: i think that did it.  I'll watch and make sure it's not still jittery
[05:38] <Hoobly> zm0:  will the setting I just made "live" stay active?
[05:39] <zm0> Hoobly: no you should check your hdparm.conf it gets loaded on boot
[05:39] <Hoobly> zm0: ok
[05:40] <mart> hey, has anyone managed a successful install from the flight 7 iso.
[05:40] <mart> ?
[05:40] <mart> on AMD64, specifically
[05:41] <joel_> I haven't tried yet, Mart
[05:41] <mart> hmm, I've tried several times with several CDs and get different errors every time.
[05:42] <mart> same iso, for which I've checked the md5sum  -  but different cds.  :|
[06:00] <evert_> hello
[06:00] <evert_> nvidia drivers failed back again
[06:01] <DeadS0ul> damn
[06:01] <DeadS0ul> what's the error?
[06:01] <DeadS0ul> check the log
[06:01] <evert_> i'll check the log
[06:02] <_renato> anybody knows why my sound sucks?
[06:02] <evert_> there are only errors with the wacom things
[06:03] <joel_> hey, evert, do you have one?
[06:03] <evert_> i don't have a thing of wacom lol
[06:05] <evert_> i have to go
[06:10] <DeadS0ul> the wacom inputs lines are deafult with xorgs config it seems
[06:10] <evert_> i think zo
[06:10] <evert_> *so
[06:10] <evert_> but how can i get the nvidia drivers working ?
[06:10] <DeadS0ul> no errors?
[06:10] <evert_> nope
[06:10] <DeadS0ul> argh
[06:10] <DeadS0ul> can't be
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> I have to go to bed though
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> ask in #linuxhelp on undernet, they're a bit stuck up there though so you gotta make sure you have your logs ready =P
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> HI DOCTOR NICK!
[06:11] <evert_> ok
[06:11] <evert_> cya deadsoul
[06:12] <rosex> woot?
[06:12] <rosex> sorry, wrong channel
[06:12] <DeadS0ul> =P
[06:12] <mart> I wish someone would do a summer of code to do a tool that makes bootable kubuntu usb disks....
[06:13] <BazziR> isnt that easy already? :P
[06:13] <mart> is it?
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> Fitting it on a 128meg one is pretty difficult
[06:13] <BazziR> well a friend of mine did a bootable gentoo pretty quickly
[06:13] <DeadS0ul> what bout 2GB?
[06:13] <mart> fine, but I have a 1Gb stick.
[06:14] <BazziR> on a 4GB USB HDD though
[06:14] <mart> that's bigger than a cd.
[06:14] <BazziR> well for 1GB Xubuntu might be the wisest choice :>
[06:14] <mart> BazziR: so, you know how to make a bootable install usb disk?
[06:15] <mart> why? a CD is a CD.  It can only fit 800Mb, so it can fit the kubuntu install iso.
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> You can fit alot on 1GB if you use squashfs
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> (like the live cd does)
[06:16] <mart> the quantity isn't important - the point is you can fit an existing install CD onto a usb disk - so it would be good to make it bootable.
[06:16] <mart> [17:13]  <BazziR> isnt that easy already? :P
[06:16] <mart> how do you do it then?
[06:17] <BazziR> http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/USB_Based_FAQ <- heres a little faq for knoppix, also debian based, so it should be doable for ubuntu similarly
[06:17] <mart> ok, we have different definitions of easy.
[06:17] <DeadS0ul> LOL
[06:18] <mart> mine doesn't involve pissing around for the best part of a day.
[06:18] <mart> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Installation/FromUSBStick?highlight=%28usb%29
[06:18] <mart> hmmm
[06:19] <BazziR> well it's rwading reading console hacking reading reading console hacking... ;>
[06:19] <mart> aka. "pissing about"
[06:20] <Hoobly> is there a winamp equivalent for kubuntu?
[06:20] <BazziR> try amaroK
[06:20] <BazziR> it's the best music player available
[06:20] <khaije> BazziR: amen!
[06:20] <ccc_> Hoobly: beep-media-player is more similar to winamp, but amarok is the best music player ever for any platform :)
[06:21] <Hoobly> thanx.  I'll check it out.
[06:21] <khaije> now if we could just get the perfect backend for it
[06:21] <Hoobly> what do you guys think of xmms?
[06:21] <ccc_> i think xine works great.
[06:21] <BazziR> xmms is obsolete :/
[06:22] <Hoobly> oh
[06:22] <mart> development on it has ceased, afaik
[06:22] <khaije> if you like xmms use zinf
[06:22] <ccc_> Hoobly: xmms was probably decent 7 years ago ;)
[06:22] <Hoobly> is there a limewire equivalent for Kubuntu
[06:22] <h3sp4wn> gnut
[06:22] <khaije> appollon
[06:23] <khaije> Hoobly: a good idea would be to add universe and multiverse and just type these keywords into synaptic or adept (package managers)
[06:23] <khaije> it will return packages that extend or replace ones that you have in mind
[06:24] <jarle> I see that in the default GNOME installation there is an application running on the panel automatically informing the user about new updates, is it possible to have the same function under KDE?
[06:24] <mart> yes, it's there in dapper.
[06:25] <mart> speaking of which, do ubuntu systems apt-get update automatically?
[06:25] <jarle> mart: what is it called? Maybe it is pollible to install in Breezy also?
[06:25] <Hoobly> khaije: i've done that, but dont know the names of the Linux apps yet
[06:25] <Hoobly> i'm learning
[06:25] <mart> jarle: it's part of adept.
[06:25] <mart> jarle: adept_notifier
[06:26] <khaije> Hoobly: oic, yr in the right place then, any other questions?
[06:26] <mart> great - text speak on irc :|
[06:26] <jarle> mart: You know the name of the tool running on the GNOME panel under breezy?
[06:27] <jarle> mart: maybe it wil work under KDE too?
[06:27] <mart> gnome... gnome... I once heard something about that... :)
[06:27] <mart> so _does_ anything update package lists automatically?
[06:29] <mart> ah, never mind, found it
[06:31] <mart> hmmm, to dist-upgrade or not....
[06:33] <_jaro> ahhhh
[06:33] <BazziR> wait for the final
[06:33] <_jaro> troubles with the graphic driver
[06:33] <orgazmo> yo
[06:34] <_jaro> can somebody help ?
[06:34] <orgazmo> im new to this.. but i really rocks!
[06:34] <orgazmo> i have installed Flight 7 for 5 minutes ago..
[06:34] <_jaro> i had to replace via driver with vesa again
[06:34] <orgazmo> as i told.. it rocks!
[06:34] <_renato> what's Flight 7?
[06:35] <orgazmo> kubuntu 6.06 flight 7
[06:35] <BazziR> !+dapper
[06:35] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:35] <orgazmo> :D
[06:35] <_renato> oh
[06:35] <_renato> heh heh
[06:35] <_renato> felt stupid
[06:35] <orgazmo> lol.. np..
[06:35] <_renato> thanks anyway
[06:35] <_renato> I thought you were talking about some game
[06:36] <orgazmo> oh.. okey.. np
[06:36] <_renato> what's new in dapper?
[06:36] <BazziR> *cough* :P
[06:36] <orgazmo> i dont really know.. LMAO.. im new to linux also. :P
[06:36] <orgazmo> but how do i change resulution?
[06:36] <orgazmo> as i told.. im new to linux
[06:37] <_renato> new as well
[06:37] <_renato> not entirely new
[06:37] <_renato> but new
[06:37] <orgazmo> okey
[06:38] <orgazmo> this is the first time i run linux in gfx version
[06:38] <mart> orgazmo: K menu->System Settings->Hardware->Display
[06:38] <orgazmo> thx mart
[06:38] <orgazmo> better
[06:38] <orgazmo> :D
[06:39] <orgazmo> i runned in 800 x 600.. yikes.. and changed to 1280 x 1024.. mutch better
[06:39] <dbakker> how can i make my windows key open my startmenu?
[06:40] <_renato> dapperdrakeson?
[06:40] <_renato> :-)
[06:40] <Drakeson> :)
[06:41] <mart> dbakker: alt-f1 does the same thing, if that's any help..
[06:41] <Lynoure> :)
[06:41] <dbakker> cool, ty
[06:42] <_renato> so, tell me something about dapper drake?
[06:42] <_renato> what's the most innovative feature?
[06:44] <_renato> I need a shower
[06:44] <_renato> bye guys
[06:45] <orgazmo> bye mate
[06:46] <orgazmo> so how do i do to get into an dc hub? what software i need?
[06:46] <Drakeson> what's next? (after dapper)
[06:47] <Drakeson> !dapper
[06:47] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:49] <Drakeson> !edgy
[06:49] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html
[06:49] <ccc_> Drakeson: after dapper comes edgy eft
[06:49] <ccc_> orgazmo: i recommend linuxdc++
[06:50] <ccc_> its under development, but it's usable
[06:50] <ccc_> and much better than the other alternative, valknut
[06:55] <marcino> :P:D
[06:57] <orgazmo> how do i install linuxdc++ then? im new to linux.. :D
[07:02] <ryan_> YO
[07:07] <orgazmo> what is root password
[07:07] <orgazmo> i have newly installed this
[07:09] <dbakker> orgazmo: there is none. You need to sudo to do stuff as root
[07:27] <stevekl> Is there a KDE app that you can use that emulates Windows explorer's network browser?
[07:27] <stevekl> So that you can see all the samba (or maybe even NFS) shares on a given network?
[07:28] <goldenear> stevekl: Konqueror will do most of that
[07:28] <goldenear> there is also k4smb
[07:30] <stevekl> I thought conquerer couldn't see shares that you don't specify already in /etc/fstab
[07:31] <stevekl> I want a GUI app that can see shares that i don't already know about
[07:31] <stevekl> er konquerer
[07:31] <stevekl> I almost never use it so I don't know how to spell it :p
[07:34] <OdyX> stevekl: AFAIK, konqueror does it..
[07:34] <OdyX> stevekl: try smb:/
[07:36] <goldenear> stevekl: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9814
[07:38] <Rahab> Hi there! is there something like revelation availabel for kde? used that with gnome and realy loved it...
[07:39] <Rahab> it also had a nice applet
[07:39] <goldenear> Rahab: what about KDE Wallet ?
[07:41] <Rahab> is kwallet able to spwan a ssh connection and put the desired password into the clipboard and stuff like that?
[07:42] <goldenear> try it
[07:42] <Rahab> sure. thought it was just some kind of keyring-app
[07:43] <aseigo> generally it is... the UI isn't overly friendly for doing the sorts of things revelation does, though you can do it
[07:43] <aseigo> pwmanager for kde works pretty well in that service
[07:43] <avuton> I've been running gentoo for years on my machines, my father asked me to install linux on his machine, I will not be able to help him very much on his computer other than the install as he's 300+ miles away. I'm thinking kubuntu is a good idea to install, although I've never used it. Are there any gotchas that I need to watch out for if I install 5.10 on his computer. I'd hope to install it and it 'just work'.
[07:44] <aseigo> and i believe pwmanager uses kwallet as a backend in newer versions
[07:44] <Rahab> aseigo: thanks mate, ill have a look at it
[07:45] <apol> avuton: the installation is quite strightforward, and if you've been using gentoo, you won't have any problem
[07:45] <stevekl> Son of a...konquerer does emulate windows explorer afterall
[07:45] <aseigo> jesus.. 63 upgradable packages.. and i just up'd yesterday too... heh... dapper still in flux =)
[07:45] <apol> its a matter of next, next next...
[07:45] <aseigo> heh. yeah, if you can do gentoo.. ;)
[07:45] <goldenear> avuton: if your father can wait a little bit, kubuntu 6.06 will even be better
[07:46] <avuton> apol: but any thing that's not working right, instable or such. I don't plan any updates to software after the install
[07:46] <aseigo> avuton: i might suggest trying dapper ... it's going to be released in final version next month.. i'm using it here for day-to-day already and having fewer problems than i did with breezy
[07:46] <goldenear> (you can yet install a beta of it)
[07:46] <avuton> oh :)
[07:46] <avuton> I'll try that
[07:46] <aseigo> avuton: that's one nice thing about updating kubuntu... a little system tray icon flashes. you click on it. up pops a window. you click apply updates and wait. =)
[07:46] <apol> if you try dapper, download the text-mode install... AFAIK the livecd install is not working very well
[07:47] <aseigo> avuton: as long as your dad has internet access, it's a breeze
[07:47] <tackat> Hi asiego!
[07:47] <avuton> yeah, I'd just hate for him to have to depend on me :)
[07:47] <aseigo> apol: -supposedly- that was fixed in the last beta... but i haven't tested so wont' make promises ;)
[07:47] <aseigo> tackat: yo dude
[07:47] <aseigo> avuton: understandable .. kubuntu is a good pick then imho
[07:48] <apol> aseigo: I tried it, and it didn't work :P it crashed to me 2 o 3 steps later...
[07:48] <Tonio_> hi*
[07:48] <tackat> how do I install win32 codecs in Kubuntu Dapper Drake so that they work with Kaffeine & Co?
[07:48] <aseigo> apol: bleh... so much for that
[07:48] <stevekl> How do I make konquerer use one view mode (detail view) all the time?
[07:49] <tackat> stevekl: save the View Profile
[07:49] <Hoobly> anyone know how to get gtk-gnutella to connect?
[07:49] <apol> tackat: install libxine-extracodecs from multiverse
[07:49] <aseigo> tackat: i installed an apt source that had the packages ... you can also just grab the tarballs from mplayerhq.hu and unpack them into /usr/lib/win32
[07:50] <stevekl> tackat: erm where is that exactly?
[07:50] <tackat> stevekl: Settings -> Save "Kubuntu Web" Profile     after you chose the detail view
[07:50] <aseigo> tackat: i assume that once dapper is released all those "add all the multimedia packages" apps will get ported as well .. those are slick. little wizards that do it all for you
[07:51] <tackat> aseigo: I did the latter and it didn
[07:51] <stevekl> tackat: oh ok. Thanks!
[07:51] <tackat> t work
[07:51] <aseigo> tackat: really? what xine packages do you have installed?
[07:51] <_jaro> ree
[07:51] <skipjack> who find I the java runtime ? in Kubuntu ?
[07:52] <_jaro> lol
[07:52] <_jaro> sounds german
[07:53] <Rahab> :)
[07:53] <skipjack> *g*
[07:53] <_jaro> *g*
[07:53] <_jaro> erwischt
[07:53] <skipjack> no ! :P
[07:53] <skipjack> but can ypu help ;)
[07:53] <_jaro> best thing is to install using apt
[07:54] <_jaro> but you can also install it using www.sun.com
[07:54] <skipjack> yes ; but which name has the package in the apt repo ?
[07:54] <_jaro> j2re
[07:54] <_jaro> something i guess
[07:55] <_jaro> i installed the j2sdk
[07:56] <skipjack> root@Tobias-wrk:/var/www/planet-skipjack.de/fileadmin# apt-cache search j2re
[07:56] <skipjack> openoffice.org - OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0
[07:56] <skipjack> lol??
[07:56] <_jaro> lol
[07:56] <Rahab> what about: aptitude search jre
[07:56] <skipjack> oky I think I let the typoscript java editor away ;))
[07:57] <skipjack> or so
[07:57] <_jaro> lol
[07:57] <skipjack> p   docbook-jrefentry                                     - DocBook XML JRefEntry DTD
[07:57] <_jaro> you let it away ?
[07:57] <skipjack> yes and installing skype ;)
[07:57] <Rahab> is a bit more relaible concerning the results ;)
[07:57] <_jaro> ;-)
[08:00] <iNiku> hmm. is there a way to actually mount and unmount an SMB share via kde (konqueror or something)?
[08:02] <n3storm> iNiku: sure
[08:02] <n3storm> thought it never worked for me: System Settings
[08:02] <n3storm> and the one that always worked for me: smb4k
[08:03] <iNiku> but does smb4k actually mount the share?
[08:03] <iNiku> I don't want to just access it via konqueror
[08:03] <tackat> yes
[08:03] <iNiku> I want to actually mount and unmount it
[08:03] <tackat> it doesn't work using the smb-kioslave
[08:03] <tackat> so no trap there ;)
[08:04] <tackat> But I
[08:04] <tackat> But I'd actually love to have a way to teach wine-applications and OO.o kioslaves
[08:05] <iNiku> the thing is... if I have an smb share in /etc/fstab with the noauto setting, it automatically appeaers on the desktop and there's an option to mount/unmount depending on the current state
[08:05] <iNiku> BUT, mounting doesn't work because it apparently doesn't know how to ask for a password
[08:06] <iNiku> so is there a way to get that working, or some other similarly "transparent" way of operating with smb shares?
[08:09] <visik7> iNiku: password=<password> in the fstab ?
[08:10] <visik7> but smb:// ?
[08:10] <n3storm> try an app called smb4k iNiku
[08:10] <iNiku> visik7: I don't want to put the password in there, I'd rather type it in when mounting
[08:10] <n3storm> visik7: anyway smb:/ is not mounting
[08:10] <iNiku> having passwords in config files is not good.
[08:10] <n3storm> try an app called smb4k iNiku
[08:10] <visik7> n3storm: doesn't mount but is able to access to smb share
[08:11] <iNiku> and yeah, smb:/ works for browsing but it doesn't mount the fs. I need mounting.
[08:11] <iNiku> n3storm: thanks, i will
[08:11] <visik7> iNiku: why u need mounting ?
[08:11] <n3storm> you are welcome!
[08:11] <iNiku> visik7: so other apps can access the files too.
[08:11] <n3storm> visik7: openoffice, for example
[08:11] <visik7> there is kiofuse
[08:11] <iNiku> or my preferred image viewer, for example
[08:12] <iNiku> kiofuse? sounds like a fuse backend that uses kioslaves?
[08:13] <iNiku> actually, what I really want is just for the mount option of the "Remote Share" icon on the desktop to actually work
[08:13] <iNiku> I'd rather not use a separate application to handle the mount. If I have to do that, I can just as well mount/umount it manually on the command line.
[08:15] <iNiku> now kio_media_mounthelper dies with this:
[08:15] <iNiku> Password:
[08:15] <iNiku> SMB connection failed
[08:15] <iNiku> Please check that the device is plugged correctly.
[08:15] <iNiku> apparently because it should pop up a password request dialog but it doesn't...
[08:16] <dereks> hmm, decisions should i upgrade to dapper yet
[08:22] <avuton> One more question: To actually upgrade every 6 months, all I need to update are the packages, right? Or do I need to update from CD every now-and-again?
[08:23] <BazziR> avuton: just the packages
[08:23] <avuton> :) Great, thanks
[08:23] <iNiku> and you'll probably want to upgrade more often than every 6 months
[08:23] <iNiku> there will be fixes and updates even after release
[08:24] <_jaro> I cant believe it
[08:24] <_jaro> NeverWinterNights...
[08:24] <_jaro> WORKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:24] <iNiku> through wine?
[08:24] <_jaro> no
[08:25] <_jaro> through itself
[08:25] <_jaro> ;-)
[08:25] <_jaro> with the client
[08:25] <iNiku> there's a linux version?
[08:25] <_jaro> there is a client
[08:25] <_jaro> you can dl
[08:25] <_jaro> from bioware
[08:25] <apol> yes there is
[08:25] <_jaro> and then... it just works ^^
[08:25] <iNiku> cool
[08:26] <_jaro> yay
[08:26] <_jaro> i never thought this would work, especially considering my troubles with the graphicdriver
[08:27] <ItWorks> <--- Hahaha
[08:28] <iNiku> n3storm: well, smb4k works, but I don't like having to use a separate app just to mount a filesystem that's already visible on the desktop
[08:28] <n3storm> iNiku: yeap
[08:28] <iNiku> you know if there's any way to make kio_media_mounthelper work?
[08:28] <n3storm> nop
[08:28] <n3storm> I told you, only smb4k works perfect in all cases
[08:29] <iNiku> that's stupid, who uses passwordless smb mounts anyway?
[08:29] <iNiku> oh well
[08:29] <n3storm> me and my girlfriend, iNiku :)
[08:29] <n3storm> for music
[08:30] <iNiku> hehe, okay. still, it's not unusual to have SMB shares that require a username and password
[08:30] <dereks> n3storm: use mt-daapd for that :)
[08:30] <iNiku> so it's stupid that kdesktop/konqueror/whatever doesn't work with those.
[08:31] <n3storm> mt-daapd?
[08:31] <dereks> n3storm: google it
[08:31] <n3storm> hehehe
[08:34] <n3storm> dereks: well, we dont share only music
[08:34] <n3storm> we share de bills too
[08:35] <manfred> What's changed in hald in latest dapper? It's not properly working and I do not really know yet what's actually wrong.
[08:35] <manfred> but it sort of hangs a while on bootup and then I can't mount my smb shares
[08:35] <manfred> Yesterday everything was fine
[08:36] <dereks> manfred: i literally just updated my sources.list file, and it wants to remove kde
[08:36] <dereks> so i can't tell you
[08:43] <banjo> Hello.  I have a strange problem using Breezy Badger with OpenOffice - often when the user quits OO KDE reports a SIGDSEV exception.  File etc seem to save fine, but it is unsettling for the user - any ideas?
[08:44] <banjo> Hello.  I have a strange problem using Breezy Badger with OpenOffice - often when the user quits OO KDE reports a SIGDSEV exception.  File etc seem to save fine, but it is unsettling for the user - any ideas?
[08:44] <banjo> OOps, apoglogies for repeating.
[08:44] <iNiku> SIGDSEV?
[08:45] <banjo> KDE Crash Handler.
[08:45] <iNiku> not SIGSEGV?
[08:45] <banjo> Yes, sorry, big fingers:  "The application unknown (soffice.bin)crashed and caused the signal 11
[08:45] <banjo> SIGSEGV.
[08:45] <banjo> This is mostly due to a bnug in the application. The application was asked to
[08:45] <banjo> save the documents
[08:45] <banjo> You might want to send a bug report. Check if it is listed on
[08:45] <banjo> http://bugs.kde.org, otherwise mail the author."
[08:46] <iNiku> well, sounds like soffice.bin is crashing
[08:46] <banjo> Cannot find anything relating to it in bugs.kde.org.
[08:46] <iNiku> it's not a kde issue, it's OO that is crashing
[08:46] <iNiku> kde just catches the error, so to speak
[08:47] <banjo> It would seem so, but the file always saves and we have no other problems so I did wonder whether it was not exiting cleanly?
[08:47] <iNiku> I guess it crashes after saving
[08:48] <iNiku> you said it only happens when you're quitting OO?
[08:48] <banjo> But only on exit, not during use.
[08:48] <banjo> ie if one saves the file during editing.
[08:49] <iNiku> yeah, so I guess everything works untile you exit OO, then at the very end it crashes for some reason
[08:49] <banjo> Is there perhaps a more up - to date version of OO in one of the backports repositories I can get at?  I think the version I have is 1.9.7 or somthing (which seems strange for OO2) - I don't fully understand the versioning
[08:50] <iNiku> I think breezy has a beta of OO2
[08:50] <iNiku> hence the 1.9.7 version...
[08:51] <iNiku> dunno if newer is available, I'm on dapper
[08:51] <banjo> Oh I see.  Is dapper up yet (sorry if it is and is big news, not on here much because I don't need to be  - ie it works!)
[08:51] <iNiku> it's still under development but it works pretty well
[08:52] <banjo> Oh ok.  This is production so I won' t go with it until it is released - on several machines, and they all do the same thing.
[08:53] <banjo> Does Dapper have the whole hplip installation (ie with toolbox?)
[08:55] <crazy_penguin> can someone tell what character is after root: in the root account line in /etc/shadow? i made a mistake and i need to erase the password and make it like it was at the default installation.
[08:56] <banjo> I have root:*:  in mine
[08:56] <crazy_penguin> thx
[08:57] <banjo> post the second : there is 13251:0: etc etc
[08:57] <crazy_penguin> banjo: is by default or did you modify it
[08:57] <banjo> By default - do you want the whole line?
[08:57] <crazy_penguin> no
[08:57] <banjo> 'k
[08:57] <crazy_penguin> i mean that is how the installer made it
[08:57] <crazy_penguin> ?
[08:57] <crazy_penguin> or it was modified after?
[08:57] <banjo> Yes it is, I have left the root: shadow entry alone since installation
[08:58] <crazy_penguin> ok
[08:58] <crazy_penguin> than you very much banjo
[08:58] <banjo> WMP
[08:59] <banjo> Anyone got any ideas as to how I can update OpenOffice on my breezy installation(s) to something newer than 1.9.7?
[08:59] <banjo> Is there a backport available?
[09:00] <rohan> who has selected the kubuntu dapper wallpaper ? its really ugly, and has no identity of kubuntu !
[09:00] <iNiku> banjo: why don't you just try it?
[09:00] <iNiku> enable the backports repo, do an apt-get update and try to apt-get install the oo packages
[09:00] <iNiku> or apt-get -s upgrade and see if it shows any oo packages
[09:00] <banjo> Ah ok - right, I will thank you.
[09:01] <khaije> please forgive me but i need to ask a dumb question --> the X-forwarding via ssh between my desktop and laptop is failing w/ 'can't connect to X server' -- any sugestions on things i should look at?
[09:01] <dereks> anyone having problems upgrading to dapper? it wants to uninstall kde
[09:01] <rohan> dereks: can you post the exact message on pastebin.com ?
[09:01] <dereks> rohan: sure
[09:01] <banjo> Khaije - make sure that the DISPLAY= environment variable is setting correctly
[09:03] <dereks> rohan: http://slovin.us/test
[09:03] <rohan> looking
[09:04] <rohan> dereks: ah, you are upgrading from breezy ?
[09:04] <dereks> yeah
[09:04] <dereks> rohan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13794
[09:04] <dereks> thats my sources.list file
[09:04] <rohan> dereks: well, i suggest you try synaptic.
[09:04] <rohan> and, you did dist-upgrade, right ?
[09:04] <dereks> rohan: its the same thing
[09:04] <dereks> yeah
[09:05] <rohan> dereks: no its not the same, because i dont know how to select the "held back" packages from apt. maybe if you select them from synaptic, and then select kubuntu-desktop, it will work
[09:05] <dereks> rohan: eh?
[09:06] <dereks> the point is there is an unmet dependency somewhere
[09:06] <rohan> The following packages have been kept back: libavahi-common-dev libavahi-qt3-dev python2.4-avahi
[09:06] <rohan> those might be the problem
[09:06] <rohan> which is why i am telling you to select those
[09:06] <khaije> banjo: it isn't being set automaticaly w/ the -X option, but even when i set it manual w/ "DISPLAY=192.168.0.18:0 ; export DISPLAY" it says the X server can't be found
[09:06] <rohan> and then kubuntu-desktop, too
[09:07] <dereks> hmm,
[09:07] <rohan> and, ofcourse, remove the backports repo.. its not up yet, iirc
[09:07] <dereks> i am not actually at the box :) which is the reason i am not doing it
[09:07] <dereks> rohan: those shouldn't make a difference
[09:07] <rohan> hehe, theres nothing to backport from
[09:07] <rohan> yes
[09:08] <rohan> dereks: then, the only way i can think of is "sudo apt-get install libavahi-common-dev libavahi-qt3-dev python2.4-avahi
[09:08] <rohan> err
[09:08] <rohan> wait
[09:08] <rohan> dereks: then, the only way i can think of is "sudo apt-get install libavahi-common-dev libavahi-qt3-dev python2.4-avahi kubuntu-desktop"
[09:08] <rohan> and then dist upgrade
[09:08] <dereks> lemme try
[09:08] <banjo> Khaije: Not sure, but I think you might need 192.168.0.18:0.0, rather than just the first 0.  I do on my setup here (which is not quite the same but is X based)
[09:09] <dereks> rohan: kubuntu-desktop has too many unmet dependencies
[09:09] <manfred>  /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[09:10] <dereks> rohan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13796
[09:10] <manfred> run-parts: /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal exited with return code
[09:10] <manfred> why????????
[09:12] <rohan> dereks: strange
[09:12] <rohan> dereks: do sudo apt-get install adept
[09:12] <khaije> n1x0r@ganymede:~$ env DISPLAY=192.168.0.18:0.0 xeyes
[09:12] <khaije> Error: Can't open display: 192.168.0.18:0.0
[09:13] <khaije> banjo: oops... please see above ^
[09:13] <rohan> dereks: that might show you the reason
[09:13] <dereks> rohan: no good data
[09:13] <dereks> blah
[09:13] <dereks> info
[09:13] <rohan> dereks: aww.
[09:13] <robieric> stupid
[09:13] <joel> I'm back.
[09:13] <dereks> rohan: did you check my sources.list file?
[09:13] <dereks> it look right?
[09:14] <joel> anyone with any ideas for alternitives to samba?
[09:14] <rohan> yes.. i think its right
[09:14] <dereks> joel: nfs?
[09:14] <robieric> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[09:14] <khaije> i don't really know what to do b/c i've needed to do anything more than start ssh w/ the -X option
[09:14] <dereks> joel: what do you need it for
[09:14] <robieric> bgdfkbd
[09:14] <joel> all i want to do is access files on a winXP machine.
[09:14] <joel> no server
[09:14] <robieric> joel
[09:15] <rohan> dereks: go ahead
[09:15] <rohan> dereks: it might be a potential bug
[09:15] <rohan> ask in -devel
[09:15] <dereks> hmm, they wont get mad?
[09:15] <rohan> sure wont
[09:15] <joel> what is bgdfkdb?
[09:16] <joel> or whatever
[09:16] <robieric> I'm that
[09:16] <robieric> what are you
[09:16] <joel> clueless.
[09:17] <robieric> What?
[09:18] <joel> what does bgdfkbd stand for?
[09:18] <robieric> It was my stupid little brother
[09:18] <joel> k.
[09:19] <dereks> rohan: i just asked, hopefully there will be a response :)
[09:19] <robieric> How old r u
[09:19] <rohan> dont bank on it .. they are slow, dereks :))
[09:20] <robieric> really?
[09:20] <n3storm> banjo: I don't have that prob, but can you start OO.org from konsole?
[09:20] <n3storm> jeeee
[09:20] <n3storm> I'm outdated!!
[09:20] <n3storm> sorry
[09:21] <dereks> lol
[09:21] <robieric> u
[09:22] <evert_> hello all
[09:22] <rohan> hi, evert_
[09:23] <robieric> sup
[09:23] <n3storm> hi
[09:24] <rohan> dereks: if you get a solution tell me :)
[09:24] <robieric> sure
[09:24] <dereks> rohan: they are looking into it :)
[09:25] <robieric> who is
[09:26] <robieric_> Life is wierd ain't it
[09:27] <robieric_> hello?
[09:29] <Nonick-4A985> hi
[09:29] <robieric> Nonick?
[09:29] <Seantater> hello
[09:29] <memzy> silly client picked it up
[09:29] <robieric> What client?
[09:29] <memzy> can anyone help me out here im going insane.. Kaffiene has stopped playing back sound
[09:30] <memzy> its mirc underwine (I share the one install between here and windows, and auto relog logs)
[09:30] <DaSkreech> Can adept freeze a pckage?
[09:30] <robieric> no
[09:30] <DaSkreech> how can I freeze a package?
[09:31] <memzy> can anyone help me out here im going insane.. Kaffiene has stopped playing back sound with video..
[09:31] <evert_> amarok won't play a mp here  on dapper drake ... any tips for getting that working ?
[09:31] <robieric> I guess it is just dry ice for a certain type of package
[09:32] <robieric> try all connections
[09:32] <banjo> n3storm: Yes -
[09:32] <n3storm> XD
[09:32] <DaSkreech> evert_: Just installed Dapper?
[09:32] <robieric> Xd
[09:32] <robieric> Good
[09:32] <n3storm> I can't remember now XDDD, banjo
[09:33] <n3storm> now, this looks like lag
[09:33] <robieric> Why not
[09:33] <evert_> yes
[09:33] <DaSkreech> robieric: Nice :) Will adept respect aptitude's choices?
[09:33] <evert_> two days ago
[09:33] <robieric> Thanks
[09:33] <evert_> but i followed the thing in this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats wiki
[09:33] <DaSkreech> tell evert_ about restricted
[09:33] <evert_> but it still don't work
[09:33] <DaSkreech> Ah
[09:33] <DaSkreech> Ok
[09:33] <robieric> alright
[09:33] <evert_> i know about restricted
[09:33] <banjo> n3storm: you can start from /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin
[09:33] <robieric> good
[09:33] <DaSkreech> evert_: So what engine?
[09:34] <evert_> amarok with xine i think
[09:34] <robieric> evert?
[09:34] <evert_> yes ?
[09:34] <robieric> I think you r right
[09:34] <memzy> Kaffiene played sound fine, it seems to be set to play sound fine sound works. It doesnt produce a peep, im going insane.
[09:34] <robieric> good
[09:35] <n3storm> banjo: I meant if YOU could do it, so to see what was your prb
[09:35] <DaSkreech> and you installed xine-extracodecs?
[09:35] <banjo> Oh I'm sorry!! LOL
[09:35] <robieric> Man lots of people
[09:35] <evert_> i searched for xine with adept , and installed it
[09:35] <robieric> great
[09:35] <evert_> so that's fine i think ?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> the extracodes?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> codecs
[09:35] <evert_> extracodecs ?
[09:35] <robieric> yeah
[09:35] <banjo> Problem is it is intermittent, and the users who are having the problem are not on this site so I only have remote desktop and ssh access.
[09:35] <evert_> wich codecs do i need then ?
[09:36] <DaSkreech> evert_: in adept search for xine
[09:36] <robieric> yes
[09:36] <DaSkreech> there is a package called libxine-extracodecs
[09:36] <DaSkreech> install that?
[09:36] <banjo> n3storm: is there any way of turning on a logging function, or perhaps piping the output from OO whenever they are using it?
[09:36] <evert_> i'll search it
[09:36] <robieric> that is what you need to do
[09:37] <evert_> i don't have the 'libxine-extracodecs' in adept ?
[09:37] <robieric> Man life is wired
[09:37] <n3storm> banjo: dunno
[09:37] <evert_> the repo's are enabled (multiverse and universe)
[09:37] <banjo> n3storm: Happens about one in every 10 opens / closes but very variable.  More a presentational thing than anything - it un-nerves users who otherwise think Kubuntu is rock solid.
[09:37] <kOpter> I've got a strange problem with firefox. The font is tiny if I select: View->Text Size-> Normal.
[09:37] <robieric> really?
[09:37] <kOpter> I can increase it with CTRL+ but then the linespace increases, which makes reading a bit hard also.
[09:37] <banjo> Think I may have to wait until I upgrade in a few weeks when the new one is released.
[09:38] <DaSkreech> evert_: You did a reload?
[09:38] <n3storm> banjo: it doesn't happen to me
[09:38] <evert_> what do you mean with a reload ?
[09:38] <banjo> n3storm: breezy too?
[09:38] <DaSkreech> Fetch updates
[09:38] <robieric_> Do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:38] <n3storm> not with breezy
[09:38] <kOpter> Anyone got any idea?
[09:38] <robieric_> nada
[09:39] <evert_> i did the updates , but still no libxine extracodecs
[09:39] <robieric_> nothing!?!?
[09:39] <gringo> robieric_: stopp lameing around please :)
[09:39] <robieric_> sorry
[09:40] <DaSkreech> evert_: can You search for DVD and look for dvd-slideshow
[09:41] <evert_> i don't have the program 'dvd slideshow'
[09:41] <DaSkreech> evert_: It's quite likely that you don't have multiverse enabled
[09:42] <DaSkreech> can you check your repos again?
[09:42] <evert_> ok i'll check them again
[09:42] <Rahab> is there a way i can tell kde/alsa which soundcard to use by default?
[09:42] <evert_> i have still universe multiverse enabled
[09:43] <DaSkreech> evert can you paste the line with multiverese here?
[09:43] <evert_> ok
[09:44] <evert_> i can't past the whole line , but this is the link http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[09:44] <evert_> main restricted universe multiverse
[09:44] <DaSkreech> not on the same line?
[09:45] <evert_> yes , they are on the same line , sry for posting it wrong
[09:47] <Rahab> is there a way i can tell kde/alsa which soundcard to use by default when i have two installed ?
[09:47] <crimsun> Rahab: sure. If you're using breezy, use set-default-soundcard. If you're using dapper, use asoundconf.
[09:48] <crimsun> Rahab: in either case, you'll need to log out of KDE and back in.
[09:48] <DaSkreech> evert_: They are supposed to be on different lines AFAIK
[09:48] <DaSkreech> did you add these yourself?
[09:48] <DaSkreech> Or through adept?
[09:48] <evert_> i have them all
[09:49] <evert_> all repo's are enabled
[09:49] <Rahab> crimsun: thanks! thats what i was looking for
[09:49] <evert_> they where in light gray , but i 'enabled' them so now they are in dark gray :P
[09:52] <DaSkreech> Well you don't have any of the packages from Multiverse
[09:52] <DaSkreech> So I'm guessing that it's not enabled :)
[09:53] <DaSkreech> I Had multiuniverse for a good while :) till I realized i was blind
[09:53] <evert_> can you give me the deb link of the multiverse then pls ?
[09:54] <DaSkreech> deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[09:55] <evert_> still no libxine codecs file
[09:55] <evert_> strange
[09:55] <evert_> you are sure ?
[09:55] <DaSkreech> You have that line?
[09:55] <evert_> i added it
[09:55] <evert_> maybay i have it twice now , but that's not worse
[09:56] <DaSkreech> yeh it isn't
[09:56] <DaSkreech> Would sabayon work under kubuntu?
[09:57] <evert_> so no solution ?
[10:04] <MrGideon> Anyone know owt about nvidia?
[10:06] <iNiku> hmm. is there anything like the OS X dashboard for kde?
[10:06] <iNiku> or for linux in general
[10:06] <joscha> does anybody know a tool to capture "video-screenshots"?
[10:07] <DaSkreech> evert_: Find a package from multiverse in your list
[10:09] <evert_> how can i find such a package ? :S
[10:14] <MrGideon> Apparently, the nvidia module doesn't like me.
[10:19] <orgazmo> yo
[10:20] <orgazmo> how do i uninstall the boot meny?
[10:20] <orgazmo> grub i think it was..
[10:20] <ramvi> I'm trying to use xgl. But as I replace the /etc/X11/X (as said in the wiki) I can't get X started again. What should I do?
[10:20] <orgazmo> and what is the root password? i have installed today, and i dont know root pass
[10:26] <orgazmo> anyone?
[10:27] <orgazmo> i havent set an password for root
[10:27] <orgazmo> only installed it
[10:27] <orgazmo> but when i try to do things ,, it asks for rootpassword
[10:27] <OlliK> it's your own password
[10:27] <OlliK> in Kubuntu/ubuntu you don't need to set root password at all
[10:28] <OlliK> you can just use "sudo" and then when it asks password, give your user's password
[10:29] <OlliK> orgazmo: for example you made user "orgazmo" and you use that, just give the password of orgazmo-user when it asks the password
[10:32] <orgazmo> but it asks me for root pass
[10:32] <orgazmo> and my orgazmo password dont work
[10:33] <HymnToLife> orgazmo> it should
[10:33] <orgazmo> strange then.
[10:33] <HymnToLife> are you sure you typed it correctly ?
[10:34] <orgazmo> yes
[10:34] <joscha> does anybody know in which .deb i can find libavformat?
[10:34] <orgazmo> strange.. NOW it worked.. lol
[10:34] <joscha> or libavcodec
[10:34] <orgazmo> how do i remove grub from masterboot
[10:35] <joscha> i have the -dev files but adept can't find the libary debs
[10:35] <orgazmo> i run both winxp and kubuntu on different hd
[10:37] <denis_> Hello
[10:37] <gringo> orgazmo: hmmm If you remove grub you won't be able to boot kubuntu again
[10:38] <orgazmo> ok.. np.. i wanna remove it from that hd, and re install it again later..
[10:39] <roniez> How can i mount from a smb device on startup?
[10:46] <Egnygnok> if I install dapper drake flight 7, will it be easy to upgrade to the new version coming out next month?
[10:49] <Lynoure> Egnygnok: By new version you mean the new release or the new development version?
[10:50] <Egnygnok> release
[10:52] <Lynoure> If things are done sensibly, I assume it is as easy as editing an apt-sources list, so not thought at all.
[10:52] <Lynoure> but this is just a guess
[10:55] <denis_> do you know if there is a channel in french for kubuntu ?
[10:57] <uniq> denis_: #kubuntu-fr
[10:58] <gringo> !fr
[10:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:58] <denis_> Merci.
[10:59] <gringo> you're welcome :)
[10:59] <denis_> En fait je connais rien  l'IRC.... la question serait comment on fait pour avoir une liste des channel
[10:59] <denis_> cannaux (pardon) :)
[10:59] <gringo> ^^
[10:59] <Riddell> ** kubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in a couple of minutes
[11:02] <Lynoure> Riddell: meeting of developers or something else?
[11:02] <Riddell> Lynoure: of developers, all welcome
[11:03] <Riddell> Lynoure: and I'm making you a developer, if only so we can have more women developers than ubuntu-women :)
[11:05] <Lynoure> Riddell: Women are not _that_ different. At least when it comes to the bits that are usually involved in linux stuff...
[11:05] <Riddell> oh I don't care about that, I just care about being better than ubuntu :)
[11:07] <Lynoure> well, I can promise to keep reporting bugs, it that helps :)
[11:31] <Lynoure> must sleep:(
[11:48] <nox-Hand> Where is the Gentoo equivilant of rc.conf in Kubuntu?
[11:48] <nox-Hand> I wish to change KDM out with Entrance..
[11:55] <aseigo> nox-Hand: it uses the standard sysV init stuff
[11:56] <aseigo> nox-Hand: the easiest way to change your *dm in kubuntu is to edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:56] <nox-Hand> aseigo, Meaning 0_o
[11:56] <aseigo> nox-Hand: replace /usr/bin/kdm with the path to your DM of choice
[11:56] <nox-Hand> Thanks =D