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Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DhIconCacheChanges and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by dholbach at Thu Apr 27 10:51:45 2006 === #ubuntu-motu [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup [04:10] (crimsun/#ubuntu-motu) bddebian: do you mind uploading http://sh.nu/~crimsun/uploads/* if you get a chance, please? [04:18] alsa-tools isn't main? [04:18] no, it's very much universe. [04:18] OK, give me a sec === micke [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:20] Hmm, can I just dput your .changes file or is it going to expect my key? === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:20] you can, but hold a sec, please [04:22] bddebian: it's best to re-sign them with debsign [04:23] well it's best to always review, build & check what you're uploading, too ;) [04:23] though I think we can probably trust crimsun by now [04:24] I would trust crimsun over myself d00d :-) === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:34] I love how I keep triggering these corner cases in qprocd [04:36] :-) [04:37] You're special :-) [04:37] hi all [04:37] Heya zakame [04:37] hi bddebian ! :D [04:38] yeah, for values of 'special' that mean "ARGH" [04:39] :-) [04:39] yay, spethial [04:40] No, that's me :-) [04:41] heh === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@13.Red-83-50-220.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:10] hi everyone === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B194E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:42] good morning motu world === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:43] hi dholbach [09:43] hey Hobbsee === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:44] dholbach: you busy at all? [09:44] Hobbsee: yes - dapper status update meeting in 15 [09:44] dholbach: gotcha. i'm looking for someone to do some uploading for me again :) [09:44] Hobbsee: you got a question? [09:45] pass me the links to stuff I'll do it later, if nobody else did it [09:45] okay...i might poke zakame about it :) [09:45] I'd upload them, but apparently uploads are broken for me yet _again_ [09:45] :( === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B194E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] hehe welcome back dholbach === elkbuntu [n=melissa@203-214-128-159.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B194E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d077145.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-095-044.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:13] wb dholbach ;) [10:14] heya crimsun [10:14] hey crimsun, hey imbrandon [10:14] Hobbsee: If you could PM the links to me? [10:14] dholbach: they're sitting on my hard drive. i can email them to you if you like.. [10:14] Hobbsee: ok, sounds cool. [10:14] otherwise i'll find someone else to upload, if you're a bit busy... [10:15] dholbach@ubuntu.com? [10:17] yes === erez [n=erez@89-138-79-102.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:18] gotcha [10:18] dholbach: let me format my hard drive first, and reinstall. then i'll email them. IIRC, there are about 10 - i try to send them to people in reasonable blocks [10:19] hu?! why reinstall? [10:19] you seem to be reinstalling a lot, no? [10:19] no...i havent reinstalled since about january... [10:20] got so much dev stuff on my machine, and i've discovered that i can build with a pbuider on my home dir...which means that i might not run out of space so quickly... [10:20] ok [10:21] pre-edgy stuff :P [10:21] dholbach: i seem to have a slight problem with only a 40 gb hard drive... [10:21] and >=2 OS' on it [10:22] Hobbsee: ok, I see. [10:22] :P [10:23] Hobbsee: buy an external USB2 drive? They're not that expensive last time I checked. [10:23] Mithrandir: true...that does require me taking it wherever i happen to go though... [10:23] or just chuck media , etc on it? [10:24] machine's gotten so slow for some reason... [10:24] true...could do that [10:24] so you won't _have_ to, but you might want to [10:24] true... [10:25] dholbach: @ the meeting - and add your screenshot/blog to ubotu... [10:25] in the upgrade link [10:26] ubotu? #ubuntu bot? [10:26] I'll talk to Seveas about that [10:26] dholbach: anyone can add to the bot... [10:26] but yes, Ubotu [10:26] Hobbsee, dont say that to loud ;) [10:27] hehe [10:27] hehe [10:27] ogra: i know :P i dont :P [10:27] :) [10:27] ogra: then again, most wonderful people who add rubbish to the bot dont read -motu [10:27] heh, true [10:27] stupid question - how many flights are we having? [10:27] heh 26 [10:28] maybe 27 [10:28] ;) j/k [10:28] hehe [10:28] probbly only one more considering its less than a month to release [10:28] thats just a guess though [10:28] they're talking about a flight 8 in the meeting, hence the question [10:29] ahh === imbrandon wants to listen [10:29] imbrandon: /j ubuntu-meeting [10:29] just dont talk :P [10:29] they're very busy [10:29] yea i'll behave promis ;) [10:29] imbrandon: also, kubuntu meeting in just over 12 hours, if you're interested [10:29] yea i'd be more interested in kubuntu === Hobbsee hopes it will be better than the last one [10:30] imbrandon: that one that's there now is a status update meeting - of interest is riddell's stuff for kde...and the other stuff can be useful too... [10:30] yea *qt4* w00t [10:30] hehe [10:31] man it takes a while to bz2-ify the entire home dir... [10:32] lol yea [10:32] i just cp it to a nfs share , i dont worry about taring it up [10:33] thats just me though [10:33] i should setup a rsync backup or something for a regular backup [10:33] just been lazy the last week or so [10:34] hehe [10:34] i dont usually backup [10:34] unless i intend to reformat === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon needs to take the steps to become a (k)ubuntu member , I've done most of it already === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] grrr...wish i had a remote way to turn on a computer... === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:47] morning motus! [10:47] they make telnet-able power switches but that dosent help you now [10:47] qt4? [10:47] morning siretart [10:47] heyho imbrandon [10:48] yea just waiting on something from upstream to fix a few ( ok alot ) of qt4 bugs riddell said [10:48] last night [10:49] i think a sync for 4.1.2 ?? dont quote me [10:51] imbrandon: look in malone, Riddell already requested a sync from unstable [10:51] I don't know how often those sync happen === imbrandon has no clue either [10:52] Riddell: I think it has to do with poking the ubuntu-archive team members. there about 40 open syncs the last time I looked there [10:53] chninkel: around? [10:54] chninkel: since your last package, this is the debdiff [10:54] chninkel: http://revu.tauware.de/diff.py?upid1=2320&upid2=2326 [10:55] chninkel: what are these *.cmd files? They look like cruft to me [10:57] hi all [10:57] hi siretart [11:01] siretart: Is there a reason OpenAL defaults to OSS? Alternatives have been posted to a bug: it seems worthwhile to migrate to SDL or ALSA. === ealden [n=ealden@203.177.231.80] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:05] persia: as I understand it, upstream is quite overworked === `6og [n=kgoetz@ppp100-144.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:06] persia: there are in fact 3 openal implementations: the creative (windows centric) one, the apple (macos centric) one, and the loki rooted one, sometimes called 'portable' [11:06] persia: portable was recently (like in, last week) renamed to OpenAL-Sample [11:06] siretart: Upstream supports it: it's a configuration adjustment. I'll upload a patch to bug #5362 to implement Vytas' suggestion for your review. [11:07] Malone bug 5362 in torcs "Torcs crashed (because it has no sound?)" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/5362 [11:07] persia: since Loki is dead, there are only 2 or 3 ppl working on the portable tree [11:07] persia: sven already said that he is willing to change the default on linux to alsa and keep oss for the bsd variants [11:07] persia: until then, we can perhaps install a config file in /etc to use alsa [11:07] but I havn't looked into this yet [11:08] siretart: OK. I'll assign to you once I put up a patch? [11:08] persia: yes please. this way it shows up on my list [11:08] siretart: Thank you. === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] dholbach, i use kpilot ( but can test gnome stuff if needed ) [11:12] imbrandon: I'll try to get gnome-pilot new tarball rolled into a package to see how that works for us [11:12] evening [11:13] kk dholbach i got all the hardware so if you need a guinie pig ;) [11:13] Thanks a lot! [11:21] ah, missed the status meeting [11:21] a shame [11:21] hiya ajmitch [11:21] hi Mithrandir [11:21] how's it going? [11:25] fine, setting up a test environment for casper since I get to play with that today. [11:26] ah, good to see some things coming through NEW === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:39] If I put a file in /etc, and I don't want people to edit it unless they know what they are doing, I should mark it a conffile, right? === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] === jinty [n=jinty@13.Red-83-50-220.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === popey [n=popey@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === `6og [n=kgoetz@ppp100-144.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-130-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] right === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ToadZzZztool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-24-209-126-16.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] hello, how can I make a "diffstat" ? [01:37] nevermind, I've cracked it myself [01:37] you do this on purpose don't you. Wait it out until someone figures it out for himself. [01:37] :) [01:39] TomaszD: diff -ruN oldsource newsource | diffstat > outputfile [01:40] freeflying, yeah I did it very similarly, documentation is quite good [01:40] thanks anyway, this makes it shorter === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B194E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Whoopie [n=whoopie7@p54A7AA28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz24 [n=truz24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-24-209-126-16.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] why oh why does ndiswrapper hate me today???? === Hobbsee goes off to investigate === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] how odd. === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === benzai [n=zaheda@82-71-18-29.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === benzai [n=zaheda@82-71-18-29.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd_ [n=dewd@201.29.133.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=ryu@p5487E944.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] dholbach: sending now [03:17] Hobbsee: super [03:23] hi MOTUs === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] dholbach: you should have it :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] Heya gang === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] Hi Hobbsee [03:29] hi bddebian :) [03:29] hey...that sound is in tune! it's not flat!!!! [03:29] yay! [03:31] <`6og> hehe. [03:31] <`6og> took you a while :D [03:32] mostly. how odd. === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-061-112.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] hi all [03:55] Heya zakame [03:55] hi bddebian [03:56] bddebian: [03:56] Heya tuxmaniac [03:57] Hi [03:57] Hey can apt-get update not work saying command not found? What could be the reason.. Sudo included.. One of my friends is facing this problem! [03:57] sudo [03:58] Is apt installed? :-) [03:58] yes bddebian === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] tuxmaniac: What's the exact error? [03:58] It seems Command not found :) [03:59] For apt-get? [03:59] yes [04:01] bddebian: :)) That idiot copied line numbers from pastebin into sources.list file [04:01] bddebian: :)) Sorry for the stupid disturbance! [04:02] :-) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d061083.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] what are the odds that a new package would be uploaded with the patch that triggered the upload not applied, *twice*? [04:14] debdiff sometimes only diffs the changelog for me - I wonder if it's a bug in the packaging tools [04:14] non-zero [04:14] bug #41207 [04:14] Malone bug 41207 in libast "Eterm built against libast on amd64 has its buffer filled with garbage" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41207 === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:13] hey motuish people [05:13] Heya Kyral [05:13] Hello HURDFreak :P === nomed [n=nomed@host124-124.pool872.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] heh [05:20] hi all === \sh [n=shermann@unaffiliated/sh/x-000000002] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] Riddell, i've seen in SOC2006 wiki page .. [05:22] Kat Desktop Search Environment [05:22] would u be interested on having Recoll too ? [05:23] I didn't add the Kat entry [05:23] what's recoll? === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] Riddell, http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/devel.html [05:25] it is based on xapian .. [05:25] instead of mono stuff .. [05:25] xapian depends just on c++ === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@bl4-82-138.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] and it may be of some interest even for [05:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2006#head-e2fba1deba799ae550e9afe765e57b7a5019f1f8 [05:27] i'm asking this as i have xapian pkges on revu .. [05:27] but i hadn't time to fix them .. [05:27] xapian devel is now at #xubuntu .. [05:27] and he told me xapian will be in etch soon [05:27] i'd like to know if it's possible to get those pkge un dapper universe .. [05:28] so i'll spend some time on that this evening [05:28] i even think it would be nice to have them in .. [05:28] as soc2006 devel apps .. [05:29] so mainly the question are .. [05:30] am i going to throw my time on pkging that stuff ? [05:30] should i pkge recoll too ? === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Whoopie [n=stephan@p54A7AA28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MacSlow [n=mirco@dslb-084-063-045-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] Greetings everybody! [05:39] Hello MacSlow [05:39] I have an "issue" -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173760 and would like to provide help (my customly done .debs) for the mentioned packages... namely gtkglext-1.2.0, gtkglextmm-1.2.0 and glew-1.3.4 === mitsuhiko [n=blackb1r@ringmaster.active-4.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:42] MacSlow: Open UVF exception requests in Malone with your patches. A description of the process can be found from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html. [05:43] persia, thx... looking into that now [05:45] persia, btw... uvf abbreviates what? === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] MacSlow: Upstream Version Freeze. For a period of time right before a release (like now), there is a freeze on new upstream versions, as it is typically easier to ensure fewer bugs by patching the existing version than by upgrading (and possibly introducing new bugs). Search the Wiki for Release Process for more information. === `6og [n=kgoetz@ppp100-144.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] Hi, although really OT, I hope you can help me: I'd like to listen to the HAL ButtonPressed events with a script and then launch another script. I don't find any docu or examples. Could you give me a hint? [06:10] man dbus-monitor ? === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] === erez [n=erez@89-138-96-99.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FabulousFab [n=fabrice@cm194.gamma244.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FabulousFab [n=fabrice@cm194.gamma244.maxonline.com.sg] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === dewd_ [n=dewd@201.29.133.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:42] hmm, I wonder if people ever get banned from *lists.ubuntu.com === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] hopefully the admins reserve the right, but I haven't seen a lot of posts that just beg for a ban [06:44] LaserJock: could I talk you into taking a look at bug #41207 [06:44] Malone bug 41207 in libast "Eterm built against libast on amd64 has its buffer filled with garbage" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41207 [06:44] trappist: what about it [06:45] LaserJock: I wonder if it's related to my occasional problem where debdiff only diffs the changelog - here apparently only the changelog is getting patched [06:45] hmm [06:46] zul: around? [06:47] LaserJock: kind of [06:48] zul: trappist says that the latest libast upload had a changed changelog and that was it [06:48] and the upload before it :) [06:48] i didnt touch libast all i touched was eterm [06:49] yeah eterm doesn't need a patch, just built against a patched libast [06:49] is there a patch send it to me and ill fix it otnight [06:49] zul: not for eterm, but the libast patch is attached to bug #41207 [06:49] Malone bug 41207 in libast "Eterm built against libast on amd64 has its buffer filled with garbage" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41207 [06:50] ok.. === Whoopie [n=stephan@p54A78040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:50] ill do it tonight when i get home [06:51] zul: great, thanks dude [06:51] awesome, thanks === trappist suspects he's the only guy in the whole ubuntu world who uses eterm [06:52] hehe [06:52] if I knew how to make konsole transparent, borderless and decorationless I'd switch [06:52] trappist: in my Gentoo days I used eterm quite a bit [06:52] trappist: oh, that's not too hard [06:53] trappist: gnome-terminal would be much more difficult === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] Heya highvoltage [06:53] hey mr dennis! [06:54] Mr Dennis? [06:54] bddebian: sorry, mr Barry! === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:54] heh :-) [06:54] Dennis, Barry, same thing ;-) [06:54] occasionally i think you're dennis kaarsemaker. have no idea why though :) [06:54] Show's how much I'm loved ;-P [06:55] bddebian: i'm not a huggy person, you can check through the logs i never hug anyone.. but === highvoltage hugs bddebian [06:55] heh [06:55] bddebian: remeber the time when you said no one likes you? :) [06:55] ivoks: Just the main folks :) [06:55] highvoltage: you can also sign the fan page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BddebianIsAGod [06:55] Stop that [06:56] Could anyone point me to a good reference on trapping thrown exceptions in C++? [06:56] bddebian: main guys like no one :) [06:56] :-) [06:57] LaserJock: i've signed the Bddebianisagod page AGES ago! === highvoltage checks the history [06:57] there, i said it :) [06:57] highvoltage: doh, I see you now [06:57] hehe: last edited 2005-10-13 14:26:27 by JonathanCarter [06:58] last edited 2006-05-11 18:57:20 by AnteKaramatic [06:58] :) [06:58] :) [06:58] now it's fresh :) [06:58] time to go... [06:58] see you guys [06:58] WTF? :-) [06:58] Later ivoks [06:58] cheers ivoks [06:59] last edited 05/11/2006 08:58:42 AM by JordanMantha [06:59] Sick people [07:00] bddebian: we have to have a hero, that Mark dude is a slave driver ;-) [07:00] hehe === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-70-150.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:01] I managed to snag a dedicated Ubuntu box at the lab yesterday [07:02] our postdoc who just left left a 1.3Ghz P4 with 256MB Rambus RAM and a 20GB hard drive :-) [07:04] the start of my pbuilder farm ;-) [07:05] heh === Spec [n=DragonCo@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:31] hi folks [07:32] no back to my UVF backlog (its way too big :( ) [07:33] :-/ [07:33] yeah [07:33] Heya siretart [07:34] Yeah, you and dholbach get to work.. ;-P [07:34] pffft [07:34] :-) [07:34] I just gave you a few more today :-) === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.9] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:34] Hoary is no longer officially supported correct? [07:35] warty got EOL'd, but not hoary, AFAIK [07:35] bddebian: I thought it was 18 months, so finishing this September. [07:35] Ah, hmm [07:36] I really wonder what officially supported means [07:36] LaserJock: supported by canonical. and only packages in 'main' [07:37] siretart: but what does supported mean? Sorry for the newb question. [07:38] Does that mean they stop doing security and updates? [07:39] LaserJock: I think this includes stopping uploading anything to $dist-{security,updates,backports} [07:40] LaserJock: at some point, I think this will include also dropping the dist from the archive. but I don't know when excatly [07:40] hmm, ok. === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dantje [n=dvg@HSI-KBW-085-216-029-234.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] dang, 39 bugs assigned to motu-uvf [07:43] LaserJock: and 1348 mails in my uvf box [07:44] just so you guys know, how much siretart and slomo do for you guys :-) [07:44] dholbach: oh my goodness [07:44] you guys rock for sure [07:44] dholbach: do you think it has been helpful to do it this way via LP? [07:45] hi there [07:45] LaserJock: yes [07:45] LaserJock: we finally have an overview [07:45] great, from my end it has been great [07:46] hi dantje [07:48] dholbach: pfft, pittence === bddebian hugs dholbach, siretart, slomo [07:48] hello [07:48] hey Tonio_! === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:48] hey dholbach ;) we didn't have a lot of time to speak during linuxtag.... :) [07:48] dholbach: will you be in paris in june ? [07:48] yeah - next time :-) === dholbach hugs Tonio_ [07:48] Tonio_: sure will! :) [07:49] dholbach: then it'll be easier ;) [07:49] super :) [07:49] I look forward to it [07:49] hehe, me too [07:49] it'll be my latest month in paris [07:52] bddebian: maybe we should rename your wiki page to MotuUvfIsGod ;-) === bipolar [n=bflong@mail.sscsince73.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bipolar comes in to whine about qt4 again.... [07:53] no whinning in here, only fixing :-) [07:53] LaserJock: Good plan :-) [07:53] I'd like to do some small bug fixing and coding for ubuntu (or open source projects in general) -- where do I start? [07:54] LaserJock: bddebian :D [07:54] some requests really eat up enormous time to process [07:54] dantje: a goo dplace to start is in #ubuntu-bugs [07:54] dantje: well, this channel is great for learning how to package and get stuff into Universe [07:54] I wonder if we should think about restricting these requests to devs only.. :/ [07:54] do we have "permission" to upgrade qt4 in dapper? [07:55] dantje: there's also lots of bug-related information is available on the wiki [07:55] bipolar: look in malone, there is a bug about that with current status [07:58] siretart: the ones I found have no data about upgrades, just asking for it. [07:58] ahh.. there is a new [07:58] one [07:58] bipolar: Riddell already requested a sync. we are waiting for the archive team [07:59] thanks guys :) === bipolar returns to lurker mode [07:59] siretart: I can imagine that the UVFe requests take a long time, but I think Dapper will be greater for it. Thanks for the work! [08:00] LaserJock: :) [08:00] yeah... quite a few bugs in 4.1.0 [08:01] and it makes the lastfm package work! [08:01] :) [08:01] heh [08:02] thats bug #43693, btw [08:02] Malone bug 43693 in qt4-x11 "UVF exception for qt 4.1.2" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43693 [08:03] wouldnt that affect kubuntu? [08:03] now if only the mysql server package supported ssl.... :P [08:03] zul: no. kde is built on qt3, not qt4 [08:04] zul: when KDE 4 comes, it will use qt4. it's going to rock too [08:04] bipolar: is there any idea of a release date for KDE 4? [08:04] LaserJock: let me see.... [08:05] lol, ubugtu just /msged me to tell me that there is not Bug no. 4 in KDE :-) [08:05] me too [08:05] It would be damn nice if we have a Universe dedicated archive admin [08:06] bddebian: no. that would be only extra work, which we should put in the universe itself [08:07] wikipedia says early 2007 for release of kde4 [08:08] siretart: ?? [08:10] bddebian: archive maintenance isn't that much fun. if you want to learn, I'd suggest playing around with dak. I cannot imagine that launchpad is more fun [08:10] bddebian: there is however a launchpad spec for SyncSources. That would be fun if we had that! [08:10] bddebian = BOFH [08:10] :) === caravena [n=caravena@200.55.195.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] so maybe we need a BddebianForUniverseArchiveAdmin petition ;-) === highvoltage doesn't understand what it means, but would sign it === highvoltage would sign anything with the name bddebian on it :) [08:12] hehe [08:12] Gah [08:13] siretart: I have an archive box running here at my office [08:14] It just seems that most people that are fairly involved with main put universe sync and UVF requests at a lower priority (Which makes sense of course). [08:15] bddebian: what archive software are you using? reprepro? dak? [08:16] I was using reprepro === alexr [n=shura@adsl-71-135-12-204.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:18] siretart: Hi, I'm one of the co-developers of gramps [08:19] hey alexr [08:19] What is archive maintenance? [08:19] If you guys package 2.0.11 and want testing, please let our users know about the package. [08:19] Spec: Adding/removing/etc packages from the archive [08:19] siretart: We have a lot of ubuntu users and they can try your package before it is released. [08:20] like a deb repository? [08:20] alexr: cool. good to hear [08:20] alexr: do you know carsten, the person who requested this exception? [08:20] siretart: he came to our #gramps channel a couple of times. [08:20] siretart: why? [08:21] alexr: do you know if he has the package already prepared? [08:21] alexr: or can you perhaps prepare a test package? [08:21] siretart: we do. [08:21] siretart: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gramps/gramps_2.0.11-2ubuntu_all.deb?download [08:21] Spec: Exactly [08:21] siretart: this is all on the bug page. [08:22] How does dak and reprepro compare with mini-dinstall? === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] siretart: taking the 2.0.9 ubuntu source and re-using debian dir works just fine with one change: [08:22] man page moved from doc to doc/man [08:22] siretart: and this is also on the bug page. === erez [n=erez@89-138-96-99.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23]