[12:00] <echobinary> apt-get reinstall?
[12:00] <fusion> what's the full command to reinstall openoffice?  I'm quite the newb =\
[12:00] <graveson> gnomefreak: ok i have copied your complete file and now am using your file as my source file .please see output apt-get update
[12:00] <paradizelost> !openoffice
[12:00] <ubotu> paradizelost: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:01] <eggzeck> fusion: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2
[12:01] <fusion> thanks a lot.
[12:01] <fusion> i'll see if that works
[12:01] <paradizelost> fusion: or you could use synaptic or aptitude
[12:01] <graveson> gnomefreak : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13767
[12:02] <eggzeck> fusion: small tip: apt-cache search | egrep openoffice.*
[12:02] <echobinary> alright all - im out for now, ill be back later. have fun!
[12:02] <fusion> eggzeck: what's that do?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> graveson: that is ok for now run what you need to hang out a bit i will check on it as soon as im done with this
[12:03] <sys> hi all.
[12:03] <graveson> gnomefreak: ok thanks
[12:04] <eggzeck> fusion: oops, that's: apt-cache search openoffice | egrep openoffice.*
[12:04] <sys> I gave a ubuntu cd to a friend of mine, and he installed it at his PC
[12:04] <eggzeck> fusion: it will search for any packages that contain "openoffice" in it
[12:04] <paradizelost> sys: K....
[12:04] <sys> he asked me to install some extra software to him, like some compilers and stuff
[12:04] <fusion> oh, ok
[12:04] <josh__> !filetypes
[12:04] <ubotu> josh__: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:04] <crocd> has anybody here installed ubuntu-amd64 iso yet?
[12:04] <paradizelost> sys: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:04] <josh__> !filetype
[12:04] <ubotu> josh__: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:04] <josh__> lol
[12:04] <eggzeck> fusion: it's also using egrep to filter it and tell it to only show those packages that contain the text "openoffice"
[12:04] <josh__> damn
[12:05] <OneTruth> what is the username to execute cgi on ubuntu?
[12:05] <OneTruth> and the group?
[12:05] <sys> but he doesn't have internet access in his home, so I thought I could create a customized CD containing just the packages I want (and their dependencies)
[12:06] <sys> is there a practical way to do this? download only some packages and their deps?
[12:06] <paradizelost> sys: have fun
[12:06] <joona> argh
[12:06] <paradizelost> sys: burn your /var/cache/apt/
[12:06] <joona> i cant get my wifi to work
[12:06] <joona> dlink g630
[12:06] <joona> anybody got that card?
[12:06] <sys> paradizelost, i don't have ubuntu installed here yet, i'm still on debian
[12:06] <fusion> eggzeck: i did sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2 and it said everything was up to date, but it still won't work
[12:06] <sys> :/
[12:06] <paradizelost> sys: then really have fun...
[12:07] <eggzeck> fusion: killall gnome-panel
[12:07] <sys> paradizelost, I was afraid to hear that
[12:07] <eggzeck> and check in Applications->Office
[12:07] <sys> well, thanks anyway
[12:07] <Isyth> !nonfree
[12:07] <ubotu> Isyth: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:07] <fusion> still nothing =\
[12:08] <eggzeck> fusion: try running it from command line with the command: openoffice
[12:08] <fusion> btw...whats aptitude?  i know what synaptic.
[12:08] <gnomefreak> graveson: i will type your name than commands for you to run run the commands as typed please let me know when your ready
[12:09] <graveson> gnomefreak : i am ready
[12:09] <gnomefreak> graveson: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437D05B5
[12:09] <movi> what packages does ubuntu need for mp3 playback ?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> graveson: copy and paste it
[12:09] <Isyth> Hey, if it says "-nonfree" behind a package, does that mean it needs to be payd for, or does it mean it's not part of the free open source project?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> let me know when ready for next command
[12:09] <joona> anybody good at getting wireless up in ubuntu?
[12:09] <josh__> !chm
[12:09] <ubotu> josh__: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:09] <movi> Isyth, the second one
[12:09] <joona> i really frustrated right now
[12:09] <gnomefreak> graveson: gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[12:09] <_jason> Isyth: the latter
[12:09] <gnomefreak> shoot
[12:09] <eggzeck> fusion: run it in your term: aptitude
[12:09] <gnomefreak> dont use that one
[12:09] <eggzeck> fusion: did you try to use the command "openoffice"
[12:09] <Isyth> excellent, thank you.
[12:10] <graveson> gnomefreak : ok done
[12:10] <gnomefreak> graveson: give me one sec
[12:10] <josh__> what would i use to see .chm files?
[12:10] <fusion> all i get is command not found
[12:11] <Nihil_85> hi guys! i don't want to start a flame, but i have a question: Intel or AMD? :D i have to buy a processor, possibly dual core
[12:11] <gnomefreak> graveson: gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[12:11] <paradizelost> !tell movi about mp3
[12:11] <gnomefreak> graveson: copy and paste that including the - at the end
[12:11] <eggzeck> fusion: errrr, then you don't have it installed, how can it say that?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> graveson: it should say it imported 1 key or something along those lines
[12:12] <Isyth> thank you!
[12:12] <fusion> eggzeck:  i have no idea =\  it shows up in my application list so i figured it was installed.
[12:12] <Isyth> ciao
[12:12] <graveson> gnomefreak: just - OK
[12:12] <gnomefreak> graveson: run sudo apt-get update now and give me 2 mins i have to reboot
[12:12] <gnomefreak> let me know when i get back please
[12:12] <fusion> eggzeck:  during my install of ubuntu today it said it had some problems getting all packages installed, maybe those were it?
[12:13] <eggzeck> fusion: perhaps, try this: sudo apt-get remove --purge openoffice.org2
[12:13] <eggzeck> fusion: then reinstall it.
[12:13] <fusion> ok
[12:16] <OneTruth> how do i install perl modules?
[12:16] <OneTruth> can i do this with apt-get?
[12:16] <paradizelost> OneTruth: the best way
[12:16] <paradizelost> perl -MCPAN -e shell
[12:16] <paradizelost> say no
[12:16] <paradizelost> then install perl::module
[12:17] <screevo> Can anyone give me any help on how to fix the ATI/Mesa problem?
[12:17] <Drac|Win> My BIOS can't detect that this new CPU is higher than 333MHz. Will Linux be able to override the BIOS processor clock settings and run the CPU appropriately?
[12:17] <_harm> Anyone have some .mp4 files they can send me to test something"?
[12:17] <paradizelost> screevo: you use Xgl?
[12:17] <screevo> I've tried all the HowTo's and FAQ's I can find on the forums.
[12:17] <ShadowNova> Little audio question for you guys. I need the background audio of a song (no lyrics). I removed them with the xmms voice removal plug-in, but now I need to record it. Anyone know how to record it off xmms?
[12:17] <OneTruth> paradizelost: cool, thanx so if i needed tthe CGI::Session module i would type install CGI::Session?
[12:17] <screevo> i'm trying to use frglx
[12:18] <paradizelost> screevo: and it's using the mesa driver so no DRI
[12:18] <paradizelost> yep
[12:18] <fusion> eggzeck:  it works!
[12:18] <OneTruth> paradizelost: awesome thanks
[12:18] <eggzeck> fusion: awesome, glad that helped. Good work :)
[12:18] <paradizelost> you need to add fglrx to /etc/modules, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure the driver is fglrx
[12:18] <fusion> eggzeck:  thanks for the help, and for putting up with my newbness =D
[12:18] <paradizelost> then reboot
[12:18] <screevo> i did those
[12:18] <fusion> thanks everyone
[12:18] <eggzeck> fusion: np
[12:18] <screevo> well, not the etc/modules one
[12:19] <paradizelost> screevo: the /etc/modules loads the driver on boot, before the mesa module can get loaded
[12:19] <gnomefreak> graveson: did it fix it?
[12:19] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm... I guess there are no prekompiled kernels supporting NTFS writing as of now for ubuntu?
[12:19] <Captain_Redbeard> My system refuses me to compile one for myself and no matter what it can't boot and complains about not being able to mount /dev/hda3 as root file system... it can't find it for some reason
[12:19] <paradizelost> !tell Captain_Redbeard about ntfs
[12:19] <domanig> I am dealing with vnc4server and get this error: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file. libstdc++6 is installed.
[12:19] <domanig> any ideas?
[12:20] <OneTruth> also i need RCS apt-get cant find it, is it actually called RCS?
[12:20] <OneTruth> GNU diff
[12:20] <serp> !tell serp about ntfs
[12:20] <graveson> gnomefreak: yes i think so , i have run sudo apt-get update 3 times now ,and the error occured only once . i believe this is normal ?
[12:20] <paradizelost> OneTruth: i don't know
[12:20] <arrick> NTFS SUCKS
[12:20] <Flannel> OneTruth: what's RCS?
[12:20] <screevo> ok, i've added fglrx to /etc/modules. here's hoping... *sudo reboots*
[12:20] <arrick> there told him/her about ntfs
[12:20] <OneTruth> interesting, im installing a wiki that requires RCS 5.7 or higher including GNU diff
[12:21] <OneTruth> paradizelost: i dunno thats all it says...
[12:21] <Captain_Redbeard> paradizelost: well I know all that :p
[12:21] <kbrooks> OneTruth: um
[12:21] <kbrooks> OneTruth: apt-get install rcs
[12:21] <Flannel> oh, yeah.  OneTruth, it's in apt.  package name "rcs"
[12:21] <graveson> screevo: good luck ,i gave up trying already
[12:21] <OneTruth> i think it means Revision Control System
[12:21] <gnomefreak> graveson: it could be
[12:21] <gnomefreak> graveson: run it in about 30 mins
[12:21] <kbrooks> OneTruth: case MATTERS!!!!!
[12:21] <OneTruth> lol yea
[12:21] <domanig> I am dealing with vnc4server and get this error: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file. libstdc++6 is installed.
[12:21] <paradizelost> Captain_Redbeard: you aren't trying to use / as ntfs are you?
[12:22] <OneTruth> lower case, but the site listed it in uppercase so thats what i searched for
[12:22] <OneTruth> Thanks!
[12:22] <graveson> gnomefreak: ok will do ,thanks for your help
[12:22] <kbrooks> OneTruth: "RCS" and "rcs" are not the same
[12:22] <Captain_Redbeard> My main issue is that I can't write to it with the "official" kernel and that I can't boot my home-made kernel
[12:22] <gnomefreak> yw graveson
[12:22] <paradizelost> domanig: did you apt-get install vnc4server?
[12:22] <Captain_Redbeard> paradizelost: haha no ;) ext3
[12:22] <paradizelost> Captain_Redbeard: then you did your kernel wrong...
[12:22] <OneTruth> if i install a perl module do i need to restart anything?
[12:22] <Captain_Redbeard> paradizelost: that's what I thought too...
[12:22] <paradizelost> Captain_Redbeard: did you do an initrd image?
[12:22] <ShadowNova> Can anyone tell me how to record something from xmms? I modified a song with the voice removal plug-in and want to record the new version of the song without lyrics
[12:23] <domanig> paradizelost, yeah.. And then i did vnc4server and got this.. Because it will require a password to access desktops
[12:23] <paradizelost> domanig: try x11vnc or xvncserver instead
[12:23] <Captain_Redbeard> paradizelost: but I've been going over it for several days.... and it is basically exactly the same kernel but with added NTFS write support...
[12:23] <paradizelost> x11vnc does server-side scaling
[12:23] <Captain_Redbeard> I did that just to try... but it stillr efuses...
[12:23] <domanig> paradizelost, commands not found
[12:23] <zeccoz> I'm trying to install ircii
[12:23] <paradizelost> domanig: you'll need to install them
[12:24] <ruzgar> how can i install open office 2.0.2
[12:24] <[Utah] tristanbob> is there a command-line program to send an email attachment that doesn't require an MTA?
[12:24] <zeccoz> And it says the package libc6 is not configured
[12:24] <paradizelost> Captain_Redbeard: did you make the initrd image, put it in /boot, and do the proper entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[12:24] <ruzgar> i have downloaded the .deb packages from openoffice site
[12:24] <jenesuispasbavar> Ubuntu's lost my hostname again, it's missing from the /etc/hosts file, and this time, adding 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain Tails doesn't work.   ?
[12:24] <[Utah] tristanbob> looking at Mutt and Mailx, they both want Postfix
[12:24] <ruzgar> but i cant install it tehere a lot of packages
[12:24] <paradizelost> [Utah] tristanbob: you cant send email w/o a mail transport agent, be it on your local system or an smtp server you can send through
[12:24] <Captain_Redbeard> paradizelost: Uhm... what would I need an initrd image for? :p shouldn't be needed?
[12:24] <paradizelost> ruzgar: dpkg -i *.deb
[12:25] <zeccoz> >:/
[12:25] <domanig> paradizelost, my problem is really i need to set a password for vncserver
[12:25] <cfedde> can anyone tell me about usb serial adapters on ubuntu?
[12:25] <domanig> x11vnc tells me you are running x11vnc without a password
[12:25] <paradizelost> Captain_Redbeard: yah, it's needed
[12:25] <ruzgar> ok thanks
[12:25] <paradizelost> domanig: you have to specify the password file
[12:25] <paradizelost> domanig: man x11vnc
[12:26] <Captain_Redbeard> paradizelost: Got some goot information about it? Like a link or so? I never had to use it on any other dists I've been running though :x
[12:26] <paradizelost> !initrd
[12:26] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[12:26] <[Utah] tristanbob> paradizelost: How come evolution works, without postfix
[12:26] <OneTruth> do i have to restart anything if i install new perl modules?
[12:26] <dabaR> I have a new powerbook, and sometimes when I come back from suspend(sleep), my computer locks up, the keyboard does, anyhow, and the mouse, as I can see the time changing in gnome. I guess the computer does not awake the keyboard+touchpad. It also resets my hardware clock quite often, which screws up my gnome-session, it can not start. If I then ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com, it gets fixed, but I do not always have a network connection, so it is a 
[12:26] <ablyss> oneTruth, no
[12:26] <paradizelost> [Utah] tristanbob: you are telling it where the smtp server is right?
[12:26] <OneTruth> weird
[12:26] <paradizelost> OneTruth: shouldn't once you install it
[12:27] <zeccoz> !ircii
[12:27] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zeccoz
[12:27] <zeccoz> lol
[12:27] <OneTruth> paradizelost: i installed the CGI::Session module but my installation script says it still isnt there...
[12:27] <paradizelost> Captain_Redbeard: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1475.html
[12:27] <chop_> if firefox is using some fonts, how can i check which ones in particular?
[12:27] <paradizelost> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompile
[12:28] <hurax> why would you want to use ircii?
[12:28] <paradizelost> well, time to head home.  cya all later
[12:28] <Captain_Redbeard> paradizelost: Thanks man, I will check it out
[12:28] <OneTruth> paradizelost:  thanks for the help
[12:28] <paradizelost> np
[12:29] <dutch> what's a good RSS reader for gnome ?
[12:29] <daryl> !winetools
[12:29] <ubotu> daryl: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:29] <ablyss> opera does rss feeds, works well w/ gnome too
[12:29] <revartj> hello
[12:29] <revartj> i have to problem
[12:29] <Drac|Win> Being ignored isn't fun. :|
[12:30] <dutch> ok, but not intereseting in installing another browser
[12:30] <bretzel> Hi there, Where can I get the source-code of that /bin/login program ??? I want to make my hands on an idea ... :-)
[12:30] <Kyral> liferea
[12:30] <Kyral> is good
[12:30] <dutch> kyral: thanks
[12:30] <ablyss> gnu.org i beleive bretzel
[12:30] <revartj> i have intalled vls, but i don't have egg to run
[12:31] <Flannel> bretzel: you can get it from the repositories.  get the source instead of the binary
[12:31] <tescoil> Just about everything I've tried to compile from source returns a load of syntax errors -- I don't believe it.
[12:31] <bretzel> ablyss: I went and found that downloading stuff from there seems very deep in sublinks because I had no luck to find any sources
[12:31] <Drac|Win> My BIOS can't detect that this new CPU is higher than 333MHz. Will Linux be able to override the BIOS processor clock settings and run the CPU appropriately?
[12:31] <jenesuispasbavar> Ubuntu's lost my hostname again, but this time adding 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain <hostname> to /etc/hosts doesn't work.
[12:32] <tescoil> ./configure goes fine, but as soon as you run make, it goes berserk.
[12:32] <Flannel> Drac|Win: erm, does your motherboard support the CPU?  Maybe you need to reflash the bios.
[12:32] <revartj> the problem is --> Error: Unable to load /usr/lib/vls/dvbinput.so
[12:32] <revartj> ??
[12:34] <harisund> Flannel, what's difference between ~/.irssi/config and ~/.irssirc ? Can they both hold the same contents?
[12:34] <Fix_> does anybody know the name of gettext dev package on dapper ? can't seem to find it
[12:35] <Flannel> harisund: Ive never used ~/.irssi/config just the rc file.  what do you put in the /config?
[12:37] <roo_> when you hold a key down it should continue to 'press' until you let go.. e.g. kkkkkk.
[12:37] <roo_> However, when I hold a key down, no matter for how long, all I get is one letter.
[12:37] <roo_> This is recent behaviour :/
[12:38] <Flannel> roo_: I believe thats configurable, if its not in "keyboard" itll be in accessibility
[12:38] <Seq> has anybody experienced an issue on dapper where nautilus is keeping an external device in use, thus causing it to refuse to be unmounted?
[12:38] <Flannel> Seq: #ubuntu+1
[12:38] <_harm> does ubuntu come with a terminal run browser?
[12:38] <_harm> like dillo?
[12:39] <roo_> Flannel, thanks i'll look into that dude.
[12:39] <Flannel> _harm: "come with" pre-installed? no.  Its in the repositories though
[12:40] <Seq> thanks Flannel
[12:40] <_harm> ah ok thx
[12:41] <OneTruth> I need to move a directory from one ubuntu server to another, how do i do that?
[12:41] <Captain_Redbeard> OneTruth: cp? ;)
[12:41] <Captain_Redbeard> OneTruth: Are they connected in any way?
[12:41] <OneTruth> Captain_Redbeard: yes through a network
[12:41] <Captain_Redbeard> OneTruth: got samba? or FTP?
[12:41] <bretzel> hello... I need the source code for the /bin/login program.... I can't find it anywhere!...
[12:41] <OneTruth> Captain_Redbeard: one has ftp
[12:42] <OneTruth> i can use that, im dumb
[12:42] <OneTruth> Captain_Redbeard: thanks ;)
[12:42] <Captain_Redbeard> bretzel: It's part of binutils I think...
[12:42] <bretzel> afk -- smoking time
[12:42] <Captain_Redbeard> OneTruth: No prob :)
[12:42] <Fix_> OneTruth: scp ?
[12:42] <bretzel> binutils... good I check it :-) ....
[12:42] <jenesuispasbavar> How do I change my hostname in Breezy? None of my programs start.
[12:42] <OneTruth> Fix_:  what is scp?
[12:42] <Fix_> cp over ssh
[12:42] <Fix_> on your server
[12:43] <Fix_> scp -r dir username@server:./destination
[12:43] <Captain_Redbeard> Fix_: A bit overkill with SSH copying files on an internal network don't you think? :)
[12:43] <OneTruth> ohh cool
[12:43] <Fix_> don't know if it is internal
[12:43] <OneTruth> maybe but thats cool to know
[12:44] <Captain_Redbeard> Fix_: True true But I assumed it...
[12:44] <Fix_> Captain_Redbeard: I know more machines running ssh daemon than ftp
[12:44] <Fix_> :)
[12:44] <jenesuispasbavar> I tried editing /etc/hosts in recovery mode but my programs still don't start.
[12:44] <paradizelost> i'm downloading the  dapper disk at 2MBps
[12:44] <paradizelost> 2500KBps
[12:44] <Fix_> Captain_Redbeard: do you by any chance know the dapper package for gettext dev ?
[12:45] <Captain_Redbeard> Fix_: Ah, sorry not really :/
[12:45] <Fix_> thnx anyway
[12:45] <Captain_Redbeard> Time to switch OS....
[12:45] <Captain_Redbeard> be back in a few...
[12:46] <doug_b> does anyone here own a video ipod and use ubuntu with it?
[12:47] <roo_> Flannel, that worked - thanks a lot man.
[12:48] <OneTruth> what is the ftp command to put a directory?
[12:48] <paradizelost> mput IIRC
[12:48] <ruzgar> can i play quicktime movies on linux?
[12:48] <paradizelost> puts more than 1 file,
[12:49] <OneTruth> mput ok
[12:49] <Bilange> ruzgar: not out-of-the-box, but its possible, yes
[12:49] <paradizelost> ruzgar: try using easyubuntu
[12:49] <OneTruth> says not a plain file?
[12:49] <paradizelost> !tell ruzgar about easyubuntu
[12:49] <ruzgar> ok thanks
[12:50] <OneTruth> paradizelost: why does it say, "not a plain file" ?
[12:50] <paradizelost> you may be in ascii mode
[12:51] <paradizelost> type bin
[12:51] <paradizelost> then mput
[12:51] <OneTruth> paradizelost:  says im in binary
[12:51] <OneTruth> paradizelost: same thing
[12:51] <paradizelost> k.  then you'll need to mkdir the directory, then cd into it, and mput all the files
[12:51] <OneTruth> ok
[12:51] <OneTruth> cool
[12:52] <delmar> Any recommendations for some kinda Antivirus for ubuntu? I notice evolution doesn't have anything, not that it matters too much since the mail server has lots of AV protection already... but i would still like some feedback on some AV software for my linux workstation.. anyone?
[12:53] <paradizelost> delmar: i recommend clamav
[12:53] <Skwid_> hum
[12:53] <delmar> paradizelost, cheers.
[12:53] <delmar> anyone else?
[12:53] <Skwid_> is there any howto on how to arrange the fonts in ubuntu ???
[12:54] <eggzeck> Skwid_: what do you mean arrange?
[12:54] <Skwid_> i don't know
[12:54] <Skwid_> they look crappy
[12:54] <Skwid_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976
[12:54] <Skwid_> i found this
[12:54] <Skwid_> but it's quite old
[12:54] <eggzeck> Skwid_: you can change fonts with System->Preferences->Font
[12:54] <Skwid_> was wondering if there was anything newer for dapper
[12:55] <daryl> I'm having a difficult time installing winetools.  could someone refer me to a good wiki/howto?
[12:55] <ablyss> Skwid, you can try adjust the settings on fonts by using gnomes font utility
[12:56] <asdx> there is some way for detecting a shared printer on a lan?
[12:56] <asdx> and add it
[12:56] <daryl> asdx: yes
[12:57] <asdx> hm, how?
[12:57] <daryl> asdx: go to system > administration > printing
[12:57] <daryl> asdx: double click add printer
[12:58] <daryl> addx: select network printer, then select windows printer from the drop down menu
[12:58] <chripher> does somebody know why I can not boot with a HP370 chip
[12:58] <asdx> daryl, and?
[12:58] <grout58> anyone had any luck getting the Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 to run under ubuntu
[12:58] <daryl> asdx: then you'll be required to enter your network password logon if your at work.  if your at home, it should just show you the computers w/printers shared in the host drop down box
[12:59] <daryl> asdx: select the name of the printer in the host drop down box.  then select the printer from the pritner drop down box.  then hit forward.
[12:59] <asdx> ok
[12:59] <grout58> all i can choose for resolution is 1024x768
[12:59] <ShadowNova> Can anyone here tell me how I can record the output of xmms? I modified a song with a few plug-ins and I'd like to record the new output.
[01:00] <chripher> can somebody help me wih install error with HP370 disk controller
[01:00] <iNiku> ShadowNova: I think there's a disk writer output plugin
[01:00] <ablyss> ShadowNova, i forget the name but there is a plugin for saving the xmms output to a wav file
[01:01] <claudio> j /#ubuntu-br-tradutores
[01:01] <duckdown> Hey all.  I try to use a proxy or TOR before IRC, and I'm currently using XCHAT, but when I DCC chat an eggdrop or a person, my home IP keeps being displayed!  How can I prevent this?  I want to filter my DCCs also!
[01:01] <anto9us> grout58, you may need to add monitor specs to your xorg.conf file see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:02] <eod_punk> can you restart ub
[01:02] <chripher> can someody help me  wiht error in install
[01:03] <soundray> !helpme
[01:03] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[01:03] <eod_punk> untu can you restart ubuntu without actualy restartin the computer?
[01:03] <soundray> eod_punk: you can restart individual services as needed.
[01:03] <chripher> High Point 370 problems I think
[01:03] <eod_punk> ahh ok soundray
[01:03] <asdx> daryl, it dosn't work, it seems that don't detect automatically. i'll try manually
[01:03] <eod_punk> thanks
[01:04] <soundray> eod_punk: look at /etc/init.d/*
[01:04] <asdx> daryl, the printer is an hp 3550 and is plugged on windows xp.
[01:04] <WildZeck> eod_punk,  for X just ctrl + alt + bacspace
[01:04] <gnomefreak> duckdown: i would ask that in either #xchat or #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:04] <soundray> eod_punk: most of the files are scripts that you can call with 'sudo /etc/init.d/service restart'
[01:04] <Bilange> eod_punk: if you just want to restart the graphical interface, theres ctrl+alt+backspace, too. Dont try it before saving anything, as it KILLS the processes started after X was started :)
[01:05] <chripher> what about me
[01:05] <Bilange> so thats a way of restarting without rebooting... in a way
[01:05] <vincenz> !wpa
[01:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[01:05] <trainstroker> how do i edit startup progs
[01:05] <soundray> !tell chripher about ask
[01:05] <soundray> trainstroker: what do you want to do?
[01:06] <trainstroker> i have 5 copies of the same prog start whn i boot ubuntu
[01:06] <chripher> !hp370
[01:06] <ubotu> chripher: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:06] <soundray> trainstroker: what program is that?
[01:06] <chripher> I can not be more specific
[01:06] <gnomefreak> chripher: if you ask us we might be able to help or point you in right place for help
[01:07] <chripher> I can not reboot after install
[01:07] <trainstroker> gaim
[01:07] <soundray> chripher: post the error message to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:07] <chripher> no error my pc keep on rebooting
[01:08] <soundray> trainstroker: it's probably a threaded program that shows up several times in the process list, although it really only runs once.
[01:08] <chripher> but I think the proble i my diskcontroller it is an HP370
[01:08] <soundray> chripher: what makes you think that?
[01:08] <domanig> x11vnc automatically stops after 1 session has logged out, how can I prevent this? and how to set a password?
[01:08] <trainstroker> no the programs fight over which prog should connect to my account
[01:08] <trainstroker> brb
[01:09] <chripher> because I can not see any disks in live either
[01:09] <soundray> chripher: is that a SCSI controller?
[01:10] <chripher> no it is a High Point 370 disk controller commmon few years ago
[01:10] <iNiku> an ATA RAID controller, I believe
[01:10] <chripher> no Raid
[01:10] <iNiku> no? okay
[01:11] <anto9us> chripher, it's likely your /boot will need to be somewhere that your bios can see
[01:11] <anto9us> chripher, then you may need a kernel module to see the controller correctly
[01:11] <chripher> ehm u men what now
[01:11] <chripher> how do I get that
[01:12] <soundray> domanig: run it with the -forever option. More details in man x11vnc
[01:12] <vincenz> having problems with wpa_supplicant
[01:12] <vincenz> I can't get a DHCPLEASE
[01:12] <chripher> so I type forever in the boot seqence
[01:13] <trainstroker> soundray
[01:13] <chripher> hp370 was very common a few years ago
[01:13] <soundray> chripher: when I write "domanig", I mean domanig, not you.
[01:14] <chripher> ehm what...
[01:14] <soundray> chripher: there are more people here that I can talk to, it's not only you.
[01:14] <anto9us> chripher, googling has revealed the existance of a driver but the link to the page on the highpoint-tech.com website is dead
[01:14] <mzuverink> If I do a fresh install of Ubuntu, meaning format all drives and such, can I use banshee to sync my ipod and get all my music back?  I do not want to format if it means losing 37 gigs of music
[01:15] <trainstroker> how do i edit startup aps
[01:15] <soundray> trainstroker: what do you want to do?
[01:15] <UbuntuUserX> anyone here that is able to help with a X display error?
[01:15] <anto9us> chripher, this one may work http://www.highpoint-tech.com/BIOS%20+%20Driver/HRM/Linux/CLI-Linux-2.1-1-0818.tgz
[01:16] <trainstroker> i want to remove the gaim app from startup
[01:17] <soundray> chripher: you may have less trouble if you connect your drives differently, ie. not to the Highpoint card.
[01:17] <_jason> trainstroker: system > preferences > sessions
[01:17] <trainstroker> not thjere
[01:17] <chripher> soundray: that is irrelvant
[01:17] <UbuntuUserX> Whenever trying to start Ubuntu linux, I get a "Fatal Server Error: Caught Signal 4" It then reverts to a DOS-like interface (I'm currently on WinXP, I just installed ubuntu on top of it)
[01:17] <_jason> trainstroker: are you telling gnome to remember your session?
[01:18] <chripher> anto9us: how do I get that driver in to the starting sequence
[01:18] <nerdpaulista> hi
[01:18] <soundray> chripher: you stumble into this forum, ask for help, you are offered some, and now you are telling me what's relevant? Fine. You're ignored.
[01:18] <anto9us> chripher, hopefully there's instructions in there, I suspect you'll need to use modprobe
[01:18] <UbuntuUserX> any help?
[01:19] <chripher> I ment I do not have any other controller
[01:19] <iNiku> modprobe isn't going to help if you can't even boot...
[01:19] <gnomefreak> can you use the -y parameter with aptitude?
[01:19] <soundray> chripher: be more careful how you express yourself.
[01:20] <anto9us> chripher, and remember to tell the partitioner to put the /boot on somewhere that the bios can see, if you have no drives on your motherboard's controller then use a floppy disk
[01:20] <soundray> chripher, are you sure that there is no IDE controller on your motherboard?
[01:20] <_jason> gnomefreak: aptitude --help | grep -- -y       (yes)
[01:20] <chripher> my bios can see my ATA-100
[01:20] <vincenz> anyone use planner?
[01:20] <soundray> chripher: that should be fine for connecting at least one of your drives.
[01:21] <chripher> they are on ATA-100
[01:21] <anto9us> chripher, you can put your /boot on there, a partition of 100mb will be plenty enough space for it
[01:22] <soundray> chripher: can you remove the Highpoint altogether?
[01:22] <chripher> I already have /boot on that drive attched to ATA-100=HP370
[01:22] <gnomefreak> _jason: i just checked the man page :(
[01:22] <chripher> chip on mb
[01:22] <gnomefreak> thought better of it after i thought about it
[01:22] <_jason> gnomefreak: it's there too :P
[01:22] <mythica> dont s'pose anyone here knows how to get ntfs drives to load on boot (using captive-ntfs)
[01:22] <anto9us> chripher, that's a 3rd/4th ide connector on your motherboard, yes?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> if i use -y it may uninstall something i need during upgrading :(
[01:23] <_jason> gnomefreak: yeah, I don't think it's a really good idea
[01:23] <chripher> no it is the one and only
[01:23] <soundray> mythica: you got captive working? Congratulations. Perhaps you can add the necessary commands to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[01:23] <gnomefreak> i dont advise anyone to use it even with apt-get but i feel its safer with apt-get than aptitude lol
[01:23] <mythica> soundray, ye its working - not that hard is it ?
[01:24] <UbuntuUserX> Whenever trying to start Ubuntu linux, I get a "Fatal Server Error: Caught Signal 4" It then reverts to a DOS-like interface (I'm currently on WinXP, I just installed ubuntu on top of it)
[01:24] <gnomefreak> i use safer as loosly as possible
[01:24] <soundray> mythica: I haven't tried, because I have no need (yay!)
[01:24] <mythica> soundray, thanks ill check the bootmisc.sh file
[01:24] <gnomefreak> UbuntuUserX: your on winxp right this sec?
[01:24] <_jason> gnomefreak: heh yeah, there was someone here the otherday where aptitude was asking to remove like 1300 packages
[01:24] <UbuntuUserX> yes
[01:24] <gnomefreak> omg
[01:24] <soundray> mythica: conventional wisdom says it doesn't work with ubuntu.
[01:24] <UbuntuUserX> ?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> _jason: mine just did 103 lol
[01:25] <mythica> eh, what does conventional wisdom know
[01:25] <gnomefreak> UbuntuUserX: how are you on winxp if you installed ubuntu over winxp during install it reformats the drive
[01:25] <soundray> !captive
[01:25] <ubotu> well, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[01:25] <UbuntuUserX> no no no - i meant i installed it with winxp
[01:25] <UbuntuUserX> sorry for the wording
[01:25] <UbuntuUserX> i partitioned and everything and installed ubuntu, so i now have both
[01:25] <chicken_Fire> _jason: I got this effect with adept as well. Removing gcc-4.x wanted to remove 100 or 200 packages as well lol
[01:26] <UbuntuUserX> but ubuntu keeps giving me some error with "X" every time it starts
[01:26] <PMantis> Anyone know how to tell what packages I'm using from a specific repository?
[01:26] <UbuntuUserX> at this moment i'm on winxp
[01:26] <chicken_Fire> and without asking confirmation :-l
[01:26] <_jason> gnomefreak, chicken_Fire: well in fairness to aptitude, the guy had installed some dapper debs for essential stuff on a breezy install :)
[01:26] <gnomefreak> _jason: thats never a good idea to start with lol
[01:26] <chripher> anto9us, modprobe ?
[01:26] <vincenz> Anyone use Planner?
[01:26] <UbuntuUserX> i've searched a bit on google with this, and found other people with this problem, but no solution found yet
[01:27] <soundray> UbuntuUserX: you will probably find some diagnostic information in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:27] <UbuntuUserX> yes it says something regarding
[01:27] <anto9us> chripher, that may help the livecd to see it, but I think you'll have problems booting
[01:27] <gnomefreak> i personally use sudo apt-get -y update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade (but thats a personal script)
[01:27] <UbuntuUserX> /var/log/Xorg.0.log/
[01:27] <soundray> UbuntuUserX: reboot to recovery mode or install a Windows ext2 driver to read the log.
[01:27] <UbuntuUserX> although I am brand new to ubuntu so i'm not sure how to access it
[01:27] <UbuntuUserX> recovery mode? thansk
[01:27] <soundray> UbuntuUserX: no trailing /
[01:27] <UbuntuUserX> thanks*
[01:27] <UbuntuUserX> ya
[01:28] <gnomefreak> ok dinners done ill bbl
[01:28] <UbuntuUserX> so just try recovery mode?
[01:28] <soundray> UbuntuUserX: either that or a filesystem driver for Windows.
[01:28] <paradizelost> hey, on the amd64 livecd, i can't get the system to start all the way up,  i have an ATI AIW X800-XL and it drops me to a bash prompt
[01:28] <paradizelost> for dapper
[01:29] <chripher> anto9us, but how do I do to install can I download drivers to diskette
[01:29] <vincenz> anyone know a good gantt app for linux?
[01:29] <paradizelost> no one in #ubuntu+1 is answering the ? atm
[01:29] <UbuntuUserX> how exactly would i get a filesystem driver... (i'm not exactly a pro at this stuff)
[01:29] <soundray> UbuntuUserX: in recovery mode, you could try tweaking X settings with 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:29] <UbuntuUserX> err
[01:29] <UbuntuUserX> ok
[01:29] <anto9us> chripher, were there any instructions in the gz file?
[01:30] <UbuntuUserX> how exactly would i tweak it?
[01:30] <soundray> UbuntuUserX: for an ext2 driver for Windows, you'd have to search the web or ask the channel again.
[01:30] <UbuntuUserX> k
[01:30] <soundray> UbuntuUserX: what kind of graphics card?
[01:30] <UbuntuUserX> onboard laptop ATI
[01:31] <cached> hey hey
[01:31] <soundray> UbuntuUserX: you could try installing ati drivers by following the wiki
[01:31] <soundray> !ati
[01:31] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:31] <paradizelost> i'll brb, gotta go get food....
[01:31] <UbuntuUserX> from the ATI site?
[01:31] <UbuntuUserX> k
[01:31] <soundray> UbuntuUserX: no, look at ubotu's line
[01:31] <UbuntuUserX> k
[01:32] <carl> Hmm
[01:32] <carl> How do I set up a WiFi connection on boot? i mean with a WEP key and the name of the AP?
[01:33] <soundray> carl, all those settings go in /etc/network/interfaces plus a line that says 'auto wlan0' (or whatever the interface name of your wifi card is)
[01:33] <chripher> anto9us,  cannot open tha tgz
[01:34] <carl> soundray: Ok? And what will that achieve?
[01:34] <minimec> carl: all that stuff is configured in the /etc/network/interfaces file. Take a look on man ifup or man idown
[01:34] <soundray> carl, what you asked for.
[01:34] <kevin> Greetings, I'm wondering if there's a way to lock down settings to programs/desktop etc. so that when the computer restarts they are back to their defaults?
[01:35] <carl> Allready checked the man pages... it works... but I must be able to set the AP name and the WEP key in some file doesn't seem to be possible in the interfaces files
[01:35] <soundray> kevin: afaik, there is no standard way to do this yet in Ubuntu. But what you want is probably something akin to kiosk mode.
[01:36] <minimec> carl: use the iwconfig commands for that. you can also configure them in the 'interface'-file
[01:36] <anto9us> chripher, I think it's tar -xvf <filename>
[01:36] <soundray> carl, have you read man 5 interfaces and man 7 wireless ?
[01:37] <chripher> anto9us, yeah but now I can not stat firefox anymore either
[01:37] <carl> minimec: exactly, as of now I created a file of my own that runs the iwconfig commands I need... but what to add to 'interfaces'
[01:37] <carl> soundray: yes
[01:37] <havoc_> is it normal, that i cannot properly burn the ubuntu 5.1 image ??
[01:37] <soundray> anto9us: the dash is deprecated (but don' ask me why)
[01:37] <Flannel> havoc_: 5.10 (its a ten, not a one oh), and have you tried slowing your burner?
[01:37] <soundray> carl, and have you followed the instructions therein?
[01:37] <Nullified> !samba
[01:37] <ubotu> [samba]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[01:37] <minimec> carl: mom
[01:38] <carl>        Form : wireless-<function> <value>
[01:38] <carl>               wireless-essid Home
[01:38] <carl>               wireless-mode Ad-Hoc
[01:38] <havoc_> it just produces erronr on writing the end track
[01:38] <carl> That's all it says....
[01:38] <soundray> carl, don
[01:38] <kevin> soundray, I have a lab for students of different grade levels, many of them as young as Grade 1 up to Grade 12, I want them to be able to play around with settings so they can learn about them, but then want the settings back to normal again on reboot, does Kiosk mode do this?
[01:38] <carl> basically....
[01:38] <ShadowNova> Does anybody here know how to start dbmix in the terminal? I installed it with synaptic and it didn't make an icon.
[01:38] <soundray> 't paste
[01:38] <carl> and it doesn't tell me much
[01:38] <anto9us> soundray, my brain is no good for the command line, I'm the same with numbers, telephone, house, I often forget where I live
[01:39] <chripher> hehe
[01:39] <minimec> carl: You can use all the iwconfig commands (as far as I know). I never had some problems with that.
[01:39] <soundray> kevin: well, I guess it would be a variation on kiosk mode. I was really just suggesting a term to search the web for.
[01:39] <havoc_> Flannel: but i did not try to slow it down.
[01:39] <jhenn> Hi.  I am trying 5.10 live cd and its freezing at "Starting Enterprise Volume Manager".  Any ideas?
[01:39] <carl> minimec: you mean just add them to the interfaces file?
[01:39] <soundray> kevin: like "gnome kiosk"
[01:40] <minimec> carl: Yes. Exactly
[01:40] <jvai> when my kid turns 1, ima give them a p3 pc, ana feather linux cd
[01:40] <Flannel> havoc_: right, usually you need to slow down your burn for ISOs, to like 8x or something.  I forgt the exact numbers.
[01:40] <Bilange> jhenn: did you verified the CD for scratches or anything similar?
[01:40] <carl> such as: iwconfig ath0 key xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[01:40] <carl> ?
[01:40] <kevin> soundray, ok thanks, I will check into it
[01:40] <soundray> kevin: you could probably have home directories for students set up in a RAM disk as well.
[01:40] <jhenn> Bilange: its a brand new cd just first touched by human hands
[01:40] <havoc_> Flannel: never encountered that .
[01:41] <jhenn> Bilange: should i md5 it or something?
[01:41] <Flannel> havoc_: I think you just did ;)
[01:41] <asdx> I've installed Ubuntu 5.10 on ten computers today, on a firm, and they are happily using it, they used to use windows xp and they are not having problems using ubuntu, they check their mails, browse the net, write documents, and print stuff, I'm really impressed with ubuntu
[01:41] <jhenn> asdx: don't use the wireless
[01:41] <soundray> anto9us, just email me all your details, I'll send you a reminder by SMS from time to time ;)
[01:41] <havoc_> :) so i try slowing down.. even the simulation keeps erroring
[01:41] <Bilange> jhenn: I know dapper beta liveCD's has a "check cd for defects" option when booting up, but Im not sure if theres something like that on breezy ones...
[01:41] <carl> minimec: ?
[01:41] <jhenn> Bilange: well I guess I'll use another cdr and try dapper
[01:42] <Bilange> jhenn: well md5'ing them might not hurt too :)
[01:42] <asdx> jhenn, what wireless?
[01:42] <kevin> soundray, I already have user accounts on a samba server that the students access from Windows, I would eventually like to have the students log in with ubuntu the same way to the server, but have yet to figure this out
[01:42] <anto9us> soundray, as soon as I find my details, you've got a deal!
[01:42] <minimec> carl: no... wireless-key yourkey
[01:42] <jhenn> asdx: The wireless drivers are non-free software and you shouldn't use them.
[01:42] <OneTruth> where is the defaul proftpd ftp folder?
[01:42] <minimec> carl: no... wireless-key yourkey [1]  Like that...
[01:42] <Bilange> otherwise, i might google for any "boot options" that could disable entreprise volume manager", then
[01:42] <jvai> some media is just bad for burning.. i have a bulk amount of cd-rw, but not all r good, sometymes i have to trash 1 aftr a bad burn, & just get anothr, the probs of bulk media buying
[01:43] <soundray> jvai: that's why md5sums are such a good idea
[01:43] <asdx> they saved like 2000$ of licences
[01:43] <jvai> true dat soundray
[01:43] <carl> ah ok?
[01:43] <havoc_> Flannel: cool. with 16x i do not encounter errors :)
[01:43] <Bilange> jvai: how about speeding down the burning process, does that help to prevent bad burns?
[01:43] <OneTruth> where ist he default ftp foder?
[01:43] <jhenn> asdx: they should donate $2000 to their favorite project then
[01:44] <minimec> carl: the [1]  could be important, because you have to tell the system with of the 4 keys you are using.
[01:44] <soundray> OneTruth: look at the installed files list to find out (dpkg -L proftpd)
[01:44] <jvai> no!. i always burn @ 4x... i just had bad media, aftr like a 2nd tyme, the iso was good
[01:44] <OneTruth> soundray: awesome thanks
[01:45] <jenesuispasbavar> jhenn: Try Ctrl+C when 'Starting Enterprise Volume Manager', but then Breezy might not recognise your hard drive. Then again, this is a Live CD after all.
[01:45] <carl> minimec: ok... would this work as well then?         wireless-essid SpeedTouch13F463
[01:45] <Bilange> jvai: oh, thats sad for the bad media issue then... I hope its really cheap CD's then :)
[01:45] <jhenn> jenesuispasbavar: good one. can't believe i did not think of this.
[01:45] <jvai> lol..
[01:45] <carl> minimec: and this. wireless-ap 00:10:C6:28:03:11  ?
[01:45] <minimec> carl: if you use a key in plain text you have to add a 's:' like wireless-key s:mykey [1] 
[01:45] <asdx> jhenn, aye
[01:46] <asdx> jhenn, I will tell them :P
[01:46] <Bilange> jhenn: oh--, yeah, sometimes ctrl+c might work... I debugged some bootups like that already
[01:46] <anto9us> asdx, the only problem I've found with moving people over to linux is when they try to use their "databases", that is, spreadsheets, filter them and fill down a series of data, then several days later realise they've written over a number of records, watch out for that
[01:46] <jenesuispasbavar> jhenn: I've been doing it all the time for 'Waiting for network interface to come up', since the ethernet port here needs authentication. :)
[01:46] <asdx> anto9us, ok
[01:46] <carl> minimec: ok but the wireless-ap and wireless-essid will work as well?
[01:46] <arrick> hey does wine support adobe products?
[01:46] <_antix> some
[01:47] <minimec> carl: never tried... Have a look at man ifup or man ifdown or /usr/share/doc/ifup...
[01:47] <_jason> arrick: i hear PS7 runs on wine
[01:47] <_antix> O
[01:47] <anto9us> asdx, data filters don't behave either in openoffice.org or gnumeric as they do in excel
[01:47] <_antix> I've used ps7 in wine
[01:47] <arrick> thanks jas
[01:47] <asdx> I see
[01:47] <soundray> anto9us: do you happen to know what a good equivalent of Excel "pivot tables" is in the free software world? I've been asked that.
[01:47] <_antix> it works somewhat, like most things
[01:47] <jvai> xpdf is mad fast.. fuka abode
[01:47] <Bilange> arrick: not sure, but you might google for 'foxit' if you need something lightier than adobe PDF reader
[01:48] <anto9us> soundray, data pilot in openoffice.org calc is the same thing I think
[01:48] <carl> minimec: doesn't really say :/
[01:48] <arrick> k
[01:48] <DerekJ212> is there a way to run Broadcom 4318 in Dapper without ndiswrapper?
[01:48] <_antix> arrick: E
[01:48] <Bilange> and it works perfectly under wine, of course
[01:48] <cafuego> DerekJ212: no
[01:48] <soundray> anto9us: sounds good, thank you.
[01:48] <_antix> erg http://www.codeweavers/com/compatibility/browse/cat
[01:48] <_antix> ^ shows things supposed in crossover office, which is wine
[01:49] <carl> minimec: I will give it a shot, thanks for your help man
[01:49] <_antix> supported, not supposed. I'm not having any luck.
[01:49] <minimec> carl: 'man ifup', 'man interfaces' and 'man iwconfig' is all you need. It's all there ;)
[01:50] <soundray> carl: and be bold and daring. If it still doesn't work, feel free to put your interfaces file up on the pastebin.
[01:50] <ZeZu> !w32codecs
[01:50] <CanadianSnow> !pastebin
[01:50] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:50] <CanadianSnow> u dont think u silly bot
[01:50] <ZeZu> !restricted
[01:50] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:52] <wogi> My fellow ubuntuians....
[01:52] <jono> I need to run a CVS version of gstreamer - is it possible to run this alongside my existing gstreamer? I know this is really for #gstreamer, but its rather silent in there
[01:52] <soundray> wogi: a speech?
[01:52] <_jason> soundray: shh don't interrupt
[01:52] <wogi> On my breezy I have install the mysql client and it gives me version 4.0.24.. Unfortunately, I think I need 4.1.12.  Is there a simple way to use apt to get this?
[01:52] <wogi> <3
[01:53] <wogi> I mislead you.
[01:53] <wogi> Really its just another dumb question :(
[01:53] <CanadianSnow> could someone please look at my paste in the pastebin and tell me how i can fix this, im pretty sure the sound card is not configured
[01:53] <soundray> jono: I think you should be able to install with checkinstall. Then you can remove it and reinstall the repo version if necessary.
[01:54] <jono> soundray: my main problem is that so much stuff depends on it
[01:54] <lkjg> hi, i'd like to be able to create email adresses that i can check by RSS (for example with gmail web clips). I don't want to give my email adress. I tried mailinator, dodgeit, pookmail, tempinbox, and their feed doesn't work with gmail web clips... Any suggestions?
[01:54] <_jason> !info mysql-server-4.1
[01:54] <ubotu> mysql-server-4.1: (mysql database server binaries), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 4.1.12-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 16929 kB, Installed size: 37968 kB
[01:54] <CanadianSnow> btw does anyone know anything about syncing a windows mobile device with ubuntu?
[01:55] <_jason> wogi: do you understand what ubotu just said?
[01:55] <soundray> jono: yeah. I'm not suggesting to remove the repo package, just install the CVS version over it, and reinstall if necessary.
[01:55] <arrick> -jason is there a free windows version of that on the apache site?
[01:55] <wogi> jason: well, not really, no.
[01:55] <CanadianSnow> _jason *
[01:55] <_jason> arrick: of what?
[01:55] <paradizelost> CanadianSnow: i haven't got it to work, i just used vmware server, installed XP, and attached the USB device
[01:55] <arrick> mysql
[01:55] <_jason> wogi: the package mysql-server-4.1 is available in universe
[01:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell wogi about universe
[01:56] <arrick> _jason, ^^
[01:56] <CanadianSnow> vmware server? cant get xp on here, slow old machine, connecting isn't problem
[01:56] <_jason> arrick: no idea
[01:56] <wogi> jason: I'll assume there's a client with that number to? or mayeb the server has it. :) Thanks! I shall investigate!
[01:56] <arrick> ok
[01:56] <anto9us> wogi, http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/mysql-client-4.1 is also available
[01:56] <CanadianSnow> could someone please check out pastebin.... please
[01:56] <CanadianSnow> here, i'll even give u the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13770
[01:56] <CanadianSnow> :P
[01:57] <_jason> wogi: ah yes, listen to anto9us since I didn't read the ``client'' part of your question
[01:57] <harisund> Whom should I contact in order to learn how to make edits on the Ubuntu wiki?
[01:57] <wogi> ant: Sankyuu
[01:57] <Flannel> harisund: is it telling you that you cant?
[01:57] <wogi> zomg its right there. :)
[01:57] <wogi> You guys are the best.
[01:57] <arrick> Andrew what is the link you want someone to look at?
[01:57] <harisund> Flannel, no it doesnt. I just want to make sure I am not doing anything silly that would bring me into the bad books of whoever is administering the wiki.
[01:57] <soundray> CanadianSnow: re. Windows mobile, I've done it, but it's a pain, and I'm not doing it anymore. I'll get a Linux smartphone.
[01:58] <_jason> harisund: to learn the syntax you mean?
[01:58] <CanadianSnow> :P kk
[01:58] <harisund> _jason: Well, learning that would indeed be helpful :)
[01:58] <Flannel> harisund: it's a wiki, thats the point.  Just comment on your changes, etc.
[01:58] <CanadianSnow> I think u can do it with wine.... maybe??
[01:58] <harisund> Flannel: Hmmmm.. ok .. let me try.
[01:58] <_jason> harisund: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiGuide
[01:59] <CanadianSnow> wow, arrick, nick is CanadianSnow, i wasn't expecting "name" reference
[01:59] <soundray> CanadianSnow: I've got amd64, so I won't even start with wine.
[01:59] <CanadianSnow> ok
[01:59] <arrick> oh sorry
[01:59] <harisund> Ah ok thanks +jason let me have a look
[01:59] <MacSlow> any head-honchos of the package-maintaining guild for Ubuntu here?
[01:59] <CanadianSnow> but ya, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13770
[01:59] <CanadianSnow> i was wondering how to fix that
[01:59] <soundray> !motu
[01:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[01:59] <khaladan> where can i look (in /proc somwhere?) for how many memory slots I have?
[02:00] <soundray> CanadianSnow: I don't know -- install a sound card?
[02:00] <anto9us> soundray, hmm.. that factoid says nothing about what MOTU's are
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[04:09] (Amaranth/#ubuntu) nekron: Always happy to be over helpful. ;)
[04:10] (toky/#ubuntu) mneptok: sry to have bothered you......
[04:10] <soundray> jason2: if that doesn't fix it, you may have to run e2fsck with the -c option (to check for bad blocks)
[04:11] <CanadianSnow> hello?
[04:11] <mneptok> toky: it's no bother. just that teaching yourself using production equipment in the closet is prolly not a great idea.
[04:11] <Mercutio150> Hello, anyone familiar with multipleterminals off one machine?
[04:12] <soundray> CanadianSnow: see ubotu ^^
[04:12] <toky> nope its worst
[04:12] <Mercutio150> or at least point me in the direction, and not the wiki, nothing helpful there
[04:12] <toky> cause i have to manage 4 cisco routers
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> ubotu
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> !
[04:12] <ubotu> CanadianSnow: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:12] <snowfaked> hmh, suddenly this irssi screen went all blue, and then all the new lines come over the spcae where i should write, and of course messes it
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> !repositories
[04:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:12] <snowfaked> any idea ?)
[04:12] <nickrud> !tell CanadianSnow about repos
[04:12] <toky> starting next tuesday
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> lol thx
[04:12] <mneptok> snowfaked: detach and re-attach. know bug.
[04:12] <delmar> holey crap evolution is an unstable pig
[04:12] <mneptok> *known
[04:12] <snowfaked> mneptok: no workaround?
[04:12] <Mercutio150> I must be on invisible or something
[04:13] <snowfaked> mneptok: except for that, isn't very handy :)
[04:13] <mneptok> snowfaked: CTL-A-D and then screen -r
[04:13] <antics> I was sshd into my ubuntu box, running nano, when it stopped respond to inputs... I went over to the ubuntu box and it was stalled trying to kill a process. I turned it off. Now when I turn it on, it goes into an endless loop of turning on for a few seconds and turning off. any thoughts?
[04:13] <CanadianSnow> o the easy source was 4 me?
[04:13] <soundray> jason2, how are you getting on?
[04:13] <CanadianSnow> oups
[04:13] <nickrud> Mercury, no, seems like no one knows enough to volunteer
[04:13] <CanadianSnow> ?
[04:13] <nickrud> CanadianSnow, yeah, it's the easiest way
[04:13] <CanadianSnow> ok...
[04:13] <jason2> soundray: what do you mean?
[04:13] <delmar> ok. its official. Evolution sux arse.  now it wont even start up again.
[04:13] <intelikey> Mercutio150 google.com/linux search "diskless client"
[04:14] <Mercutio150> thank you intelikey
[04:14] <soundray> jason2, did you rerun e2fsck? Did you try the -c option?
[04:14] <jason2> soundray: i dont know what to do anmore
[04:14] <holycow> anyone have their laptop batteries last only 1/2 hour on some machines? i'm not googling much info on this, what is the general consensus on this ... doesn't work or does but with certain packages/config?
[04:14] <rafael> hello every body
[04:14] <jason2> soundray: i had somuch important things on that hd
[04:14] <james__> what is an RPM?
[04:15] <intelikey> Mercutio150 been a while sense i read anything on that subject, so i can't just give you a url
[04:15] <skwid_> is there an ical equivalent on ubuntu ?
[04:15] <soundray> jason2, did you rerun e2fsck? Did you try the -c option?
[04:15] <nickrud> james__, a package for use on redhat & derivatives
[04:15] <ahmeni> holycow: mine only runs for about 20 mintues, but it's a crappy battery
[04:15] <bilford> Does anyone know how to associated files to a Wine'd app
[04:15] <james__> ahhhh
[04:15] <Mercutio150> hey its more help than anyone has ever given me for this
[04:15] <chicken_Fire> hi skwid_ , what is ical?=?
[04:15] <snowfaked> this apt-get lag is also werid. every time i run it, it lags for a minute or so and then continues at 1MB/s again
[04:15] <skwid_> chicken_Fire: :)
[04:15] <skwid_> i just want something that i can coordinate with my google calendar ...
[04:16] <rafael> i cant listen mp3 files
[04:16] <nickrud> !mp3
[04:16] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:16] <rafael> i need help
[04:16] <holycow> ahmeni, *nod*
[04:16] <bilford> pfft
[04:16] <nickrud> rafael, that uobtu thing just above was for you
[04:16] <intelikey> Mercutio150 also search "terminal server"
[04:16] <Mercutio150> ok
[04:16] <delmar> OK so why is Evolution being such a pig.. it hangs then i close it restart and it wont.. open System Monitor and kill the process... restart.. wont start... unless I kill all the evolution processes ie. data-server and exchange-storage etc.. then start it.. and it works again..... really anoying :(
[04:16] <skwid_> so ??
[04:16] <rafael> ok thanks
[04:17] <soundray> jason2: don't despair, there are still options left. Look at man e2fsck
[04:18] <dragonlord> /home/john/wasabi/jpl/src/speechrec/0509
[04:18] <dragonlord> /home/john/wasabi/jpl/src/speechrec/server
[04:18] <james__> ok the whole realplayer thing is looking hopeless... i have tried a half dozen different methods now
[04:18] <chicken_Fire> unmout /dev/hda1 | hydrolic press >> trashcan
[04:18] <dragonlord> /home/john/wasabi/jpl/src/speechrec/0509
[04:18] <dragonlord> /home/john/wasabi/jpl/src/speechrec/server
[04:18] <cafuego_> delmar: thunderbird is nice, isn't it?
[04:18] <holycow> its just weird
[04:18] <CanadianSnow> uh
[04:19] <holycow> its like the laptop is running on full power ... and doesn't know how to power save
[04:19] <CanadianSnow> y cant i just install it
[04:19] <dragonlord> john@tecra:~/wasabi/jpl/src$ ls sp*
[04:19] <dragonlord> speech:
[04:19] <dragonlord> jspeech.java  libspeech.a  SConscript  speech_synthesizer.cpp  speech_synthesizer.h  speech_synthesizer.o
[04:19] <dragonlord> speechrec:
[04:19] <dragonlord> HandleSpeechRec_glue.cpp   HandleSpeechRec_glue.h~  ListenThread.h   word_listen.cpp
[04:19] <dragonlord> HandleSpeechRec_glue.cpp~  ListenThread.cpp         ListenThread.h~  word_listen.h
[04:19] <dragonlord> HandleSpeechRec_glue.h     ListenThread.cpp~        word_listen.c~
[04:19] <dragonlord> speechrec_exp:
[04:19] <dragonlord> 0509  server
[04:19] <dragonlord> john@tecra:~/wasabi/jpl/src$ scons speechrec
[04:19] <cafuego_> dragonlord: stop pasting!!!
[04:19] <dragonlord> scons: Reading SConscript files ...
[04:19] <dragonlord> scons: *** Illegal construction variable `0509'
[04:19] <NoUse> dragonlord don't flood the channel!
[04:20] <nickrud> CanadianSnow, you really do want to update your sources.list , there's 10,000+ additional packages available afterwards
[04:20] <eobanb_> ugh
[04:20] <eobanb_> !tell dragonlord about paste
[04:20] <soundray> jason2, will you need more help, because I have to go.
[04:21] <jason2> soundray: i think i am pretty well screwwed
[04:21] <skwid_> is there an ical equivalent on ubuntu ?
[04:21] <soundray> jason2: you are if you give up too soon.
[04:21] <skwid_> i just want something that i can coordinate with my google calendar ...
[04:21] <CanadianSnow> fine :P
[04:21] <CanadianSnow> can u just tell me the command?
[04:21] <Android_D> I have php4 and apache installed, but I cannot view php files with firefox. what can I do to fix this?
[04:22] <paradizelost> Android_D: that's an apache issue.
[04:22] <paradizelost> #apache
[04:22] <paradizelost> !apache
[04:22] <ubotu> I guess apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:22] <cafuego_> paradizelost: Not necessrily.
[04:22] <nickrud> CanadianSnow, erm. a sec
[04:23] <paradizelost> if apache isn't using php, it'll pass the .php files as downloads
[04:23] <cafuego_> and if firefox has cached one such request it will keep erroring, even if you fix apache.
[04:23] <cafuego_> Android_D: Did you install llibapache-mod-php4 ?
[04:24] <soundray> jason2, okay, if you're giving up, I will, too.
[04:24] <CanadianSnow> thx
[04:24] <eggzeck> has anyone ever use celestia?
[04:25] <snowfaked> hmh, even after following instructions on installing libdvdread3 and install-css.sh totem still says it is unable to find decoder for dvd
[04:25] <paradizelost> snowfaked: you need to load libdvdcss2
[04:26] <paradizelost> snowfaked: use easyubuntu
[04:26] <cafuego_> paradizelost: that's wat the .sh script does.
[04:26] <paradizelost> !tell snowfaked about easyubuntu
[04:26] <snowfaked> ok thanks
[04:26] <endeavormac> is there a command I can use to see what filesystem I used for each of my partitions?
[04:26] <cafuego_> endeavormac: `mount'
[04:26] <endeavormac> ok, thanks
[04:27] <intelikey> endeavormac if not mounted try   sudo fdisk -l
[04:27] <chicken_Fire> why ubuntu is not packing the multiverse as source by default!??!?!
[04:27] <chicken_Fire> the licenses are popping up anyway while installing
[04:28] <nickrud> CanadianSnow, open your browser to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 , and save the text in the textbox to a file on your destop (there's a text editor under Applications->Accessories)
[04:28] <endeavormac> they're all mounted :)
[04:28] <chicken_Fire> It prevent users to have a nice/easy Java installation
[04:29] <paradizelost> !tell CanadianSnow about paste
[04:29] <bimberi> chicken_Fire: i'm sure it would if it wasn't for lawyers
[04:29] <nickrud> not lawyers, but greedy programmers ;P
[04:29] <CanadianSnow> ya i know bout paste
[04:30] <chicken_Fire> but but, the multiverse can be enabeled anyway!
[04:30] <CanadianSnow> and its faster/easier to just use add applications
[04:30] <chicken_Fire> It is blocking java deployement. We all know a company doing that..
[04:30] <CanadianSnow> when i right click link and hit open with browser it doesn't do anything :'(
[04:31] <CanadianSnow> i updated firefox
[04:32] <metallitux> Hi all. Anyone care to tell me how to replace (safely) a 386 kernel with a 686?
[04:32] <nickrud> metallitux, sudo apt-get install linux-686
[04:33] <james__> does ubuntu include glibc (gnu C library) version 2.3? if not , is it possible to install it on ubuntu?
[04:33] <loopyzort> anyone know where to get a freetype 2.1.10 for breezy (it's in dapper, can i grab that?)
[04:33] <tenstop> Hey, could anyone tell me how to add a program to my PATH?
[04:33] <paradizelost> james__: apt-get install glibc2.3
[04:33] <nickrud> james__, it has gllibc 2.3.5 (called libc6 in ubuntu)
[04:33] <intelikey> hacker after editing code all day and all night exclamed  "gadzook !  i've invented the wheel ! "
[04:33] <paradizelost> tenstop: /etc/profile IIRC
[04:34] <CanadianSnow> yea i think it works now :)
[04:34] <bimberi> !info libc6
[04:34] <james__> do i just type that in a terminal window?
[04:34] <ubotu> libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 (breezy), Packaged size: 4772 kB, Installed size: 15436 kB
[04:34] <tenstop> paradizelost: What's the syntax, please?
[04:35] <metallitux> nickrud, it's that easy?
[04:35] <tenstop> paradizelost: And preferably the one in the /home directory?
[04:35] <nickrud> metallitux, sure is. You can see a description of it if you type apt-cache show linux-686 in a terminal
[04:36] <paradizelost> tenstop: you edit either /etc/profile or ~/.bashrc and add $PATH=$PATH;/path/to/add
[04:36] <the_mr_bong_show> hey hey hey
[04:36] <tenstop> paradizelost: At what point in the file?
[04:36] <the_mr_bong_show> _jason are you here
[04:36] <paradizelost> tenstop: find a $path in the file
[04:37] <tenstop> I only see a PATH=
[04:37] <paradizelost> in the case of /etc/profile
[04:37] <tenstop> Not a $PATH=.
[04:37] <paradizelost> then add it there
[04:37] <gamma> i've got a 32" lcd tv with vga input.. the monitor is widescreen and 1366x768. Whats a good resolution I can set in X for it to use?
[04:37] <gmmech> help witj a screen resolution that wont go over 800x600
[04:37] <the_mr_bong_show> paradizelost i got wine to update
[04:37] <paradizelost> gmmech: ATI or nvidia?
[04:38] <gmmech> I've tried to insert a modeline in the xorg.conf file but no go
[04:38] <gmmech> lol
[04:38] <paradizelost> coo
[04:38] <gmmech> old S3 onboard
[04:38] <gmmech> I have thave a setting wrong or something
[04:39] <intelikey> tenstop adding a path to the existing path ?   syntax;   export PATH="$PATH:/new/path"
[04:39] <the_mr_bong_show> paradizelost what else can i do on ubuntu
[04:40] <tenstop> Ok, it says:
[04:40] <tenstop> if [ -b ~/bin ]  ; then
[04:40] <tenstop> PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[04:40] <tenstop> fi
[04:40] <intelikey> -b ?    not  -d ?
[04:40] <tenstop> Woops, it is -d.
[04:41] <the_mr_bong_show> is there a way to emulate a fake cd rom
[04:41] <bbrazil> the_mr_bong_show: ?
[04:41] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: as in mount an iso?
[04:41] <the_mr_bong_show> yah
[04:41] <intelikey> what that if statement does is add $HOME/bin  to the path if it is a dir. else it leaves the path unchanged.
[04:41] <bbrazil> the_mr_bong_show: mount the.iso /mnt/point -o loop
[04:41] <paradizelost> mkdir cddest && mount -o loop cdimage.iso cddest/
[04:42] <tenstop> Ok.
[04:42] <the_mr_bong_show> where do i put that in
[04:42] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: that's a terminal command
[04:42] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[04:42] <intelikey> tenstop what path are you trying to add ?
[04:42] <tenstop> What I'm trying to do is add a program to the path so that if I type 'shorten', it'll run a program located in ~/Desktop/shorten/shorten
[04:42] <the_mr_bong_show> so i put in like gta3.iso /mnt/point -o loop
[04:43] <paradizelost> tenstop: ok, put a shell script in /bin and have it call ~/Desktop/shorten/shorten
[04:43] <gmmech> does Modeline "1024x768_85.00"  94.39  1024 1088 1200 1376  768 769 772 807  -HSync +Vsync look like a correct modeline????
[04:43] <skwid_>  MySQL said: Documentation
[04:43] <skwid_> #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[04:43] <tenstop> paradizelost: I'm trying to use it with shntool, which just checks for it to be in the path.
[04:43] <delmar> OK thats it. Evolution is gonna get uninstalled. what a piece of crap. :(
[04:43] <skwid_> anyone can help me with this ???
[04:43] <zntneo> Hey i just installed aswiki how do i acess it
[04:44] <holycow> *hmm*
[04:44] <skwid_> please
[04:44] <the_mr_bong_show> so i put in like gta3.iso /mnt/point -o loop for the terminal command
[04:45] <holycow> to what file do i add modules if i want them loaded up at boot again?
[04:45] <intelikey> tenstop you don't add programs to the path veriable.  you alias programs.    add this to you file    alias shorten='/the/path/and/the/executable.name -args'   <--- replacing the example of course.
[04:45] <nickrud> gmmech, mode lines are a usable but last ditch way of defining modes for your monitor. Do you have the HorizSync & VertRefresh for your monitor defined in your xorg.conf?
[04:45] <gmmech> yup
[04:45] <zntneo> anyone know?
[04:45] <tenstop> Ah, ok then.  Thanks, intelikey
[04:45] <intelikey> tenstop anytime.
[04:45] <fiveiron> is there a way to turn off the "graphical" system loader?
[04:46] <the_mr_bong_show> i have some questions about .iso /mnt/point -o loop
[04:46] <nickrud> gmmech, then do you have 1024x768_85.00 in your list of resolutions under 24 bit mode?
[04:47] <the_mr_bong_show> is that the whole command or do i have to put the loction of the iso
[04:47] <gmmech> HorizSync	30-69 VertRefresh	50-120
[04:47] <zntneo> i'm trying to install a wiki but i don't know how do get to it from my browser
[04:48] <gmmech> Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[04:48] <holycow> nm, gotit, i'm blind
[04:49] <nickrud> gmmech, change the 1024x768 to 1024x768_85.00
[04:49] <intelikey> tenstop example;   alias ll='/bin/ls -lAh --color=auto'
[04:49] <the_mr_bong_show> gmmech do you know how i can mount a  iso coz i don tknow the whole command
[04:49] <nickrud> gmmech, I believe :)
[04:50] <gmmech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13771
[04:50] <zntneo> does anyone know much about setting up a wiki
[04:51] <skwid_> #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[04:51] <skwid_> please :)
[04:51] <paradizelost> skwid_: mysql -u root -p
[04:52] <nickrud> gmmech, since you defined two modelines, you need to reference those definitions in your screen definition, like "1280x1024_85.00" "1024x768_85.00" "800x600" "640x480"
[04:52] <skwid_> skwid@LostOcean:/var/www/phpMyAdmin$ mysql -u root -p
[04:52] <skwid_> Enter password:
[04:52] <skwid_> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[04:52] <skwid_> what password am i supposed to enter ?
[04:52] <paradizelost> then your password is wrong.  do you know what password you set?
[04:52] <skwid_> it should have none
[04:52] <the_mr_bong_show> paradizelost what is the whole command for mounting a iso am i sopose to put in the location of the iso
[04:53] <skwid_> clean install
[04:53] <gmmech> just changed them I'll have to restart and find out if that does it
[04:53] <paradizelost> mount /path/to/cd.iso -o loop /path/to/mount/location
[04:53] <paradizelost> !google
[04:53] <ubotu> google is, like, a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[04:53] <nickrud> the_mr_bong_show, sudo mount -o loop <isofile> /mnt   (the /mnt point exists just for this type of thing)
[04:54] <paradizelost> nickrud: i don't think he understands what the <isofile> stands for...
[04:54] <gmmech> brb
[04:54] <nickrud> paradizelost, ah. the_mr_bong_show where's the iso file you want to mount located?
[04:54] <the_mr_bong_show> its on a cd but i can put it on my desktop
[04:55] <punkmexic> DONT GET MAD A ME but..anyone knows a place to get a bootable xp cd?
[04:55] <rob138> hi, would upgrade linux kernel's alter my bcm43xx wireless setup?
[04:55] <skwid_> paradizelost:  any other ideas ?
[04:55] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: as in you have a .iso file on a CD?
[04:55] <punkmexic> live cd windows xp
[04:55] <paradizelost> punkmexic: officemax
[04:55] <the_mr_bong_show> yeah
[04:55] <punkmexic> i mean a website.
[04:56] <paradizelost> punkmexic: you mean a Windows PE disk?
[04:56] <punkmexic> yes
[04:56] <paradizelost> punkmexic: go to #warez
[04:56] <punkmexic> already made it
[04:56] <punkmexic> a small one with the esential tools to fix problems
[04:56] <paradizelost> or #imapirate
[04:56] <the_mr_bong_show> dont ask why i have a iso on a cd paradizelost
[04:56] <nickrud> the_mr_bong_show, to mount the cd image, you'll need to copy the cd iso image to your hard disk ; dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/Desktop/image.iso bs=1024 will do that
[04:56] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: then copy it to the local system
[04:56] <nickrud> the_mr_bong_show, er, nm :)
[04:56] <intelikey> we don't need to ask.....
[04:56] <paradizelost> nickrud: he has the .iso as a file on the cd
[04:56] <zntneo> is everyone ignoring me or does no one know
[04:56] <rob138> hi, would upgrade linux kernel's alter my bcm43xx wireless setup?
[04:56] <nickrud> paradizelost, yeah, I just caught that
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> knows what?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:57] <nickrud> intelikey, it's under your computer, probably
[04:57] <pally> anyone succeed in suspendin to RAM | Swap?
[04:57] <the_mr_bong_show> thanks
[04:57] <intelikey> zntneo i'm ignoring you.... what did you say?
[04:57] <intelikey> nickrud actually over.
[04:58] <zntneo> i was wondering if anyone knew much about setting up a wiki on ubuntu using one of the packages
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> !wiki
[04:58] <paradizelost> !multiscreen
[04:58] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[04:58] <paradizelost> oops
[04:59] <the_mr_bong_show> ok im puting th iso on the desktop
[04:59] <nickrud> !xinerama
[04:59] <ubotu> hmm... xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[04:59] <hollowlife1987> Q: After easycam2 says my webcam was installed correctly i try testing it and it says "could not connect to video device(/dev/video0)" any ideas?
[05:00] <nickrud> hollowlife1987, do you have the proper permissions to read /dev/video0 (just an idea)
[05:00] <intelikey> add self to vidio group ?
[05:00] <intelikey> maybe ls -l /dev/video0
[05:01] <hollowlife1987> im trying to test it while running under gksudo
[05:01] <zntneo> intelikey, did you get that
[05:02] <the_mr_bong_show> so the whole command is  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/Desktop/image.iso to mont a cdrom
[05:02] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: no, that makes  an iso image of a cd
[05:03] <intelikey> zntneo if i said i was ignoring you would.... never mind.   well yes i saw your question/statement.  but that doesn't mean i know what you are asking.    are you thinking of setting up a wiki base on your box or what ?
[05:03] <the_mr_bong_show> oh ok
[05:03] <zntneo> yes i am
[05:03] <the_mr_bong_show> paradizelost sorry im new to commands
[05:03] <zntneo> oh sorry i though you decided to stop ignoring me
[05:03] <zntneo> trying to setup a wiki on my box
[05:03] <paradizelost> !iso
[05:03] <ubotu> hmm... iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[05:04] <paradizelost> !mount
[05:04] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[05:04] <mathieu_> i am having trouble with the stock ubuntu kernel, my ralink onboard wireless card is being recognized but does not see the wireless router
[05:04] <paradizelost> mathieu_: if you do an ifconfig does it have all 0's for the MAC address?
[05:04] <mathieu_> the card however, is recognised and works when i use the ubuntu dapper live cd
[05:05] <miracle> hi
[05:05] <intelikey> hmmm i guess there needs to be a wiki howto wiki....
[05:05] <rob138> hi, would upgrade linux kernel's alter my bcm43xx wireless setup?
[05:05] <paradizelost> !wireless
[05:05] <ubotu> methinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:05] <paradizelost> rob138: depends how you have it set up...
[05:06] <paradizelost> !wiki
[05:06] <paradizelost> SMEG
[05:06] <cfh_dev> Is there a command to see what FSB I'm running at?
[05:06] <the_mr_bong_show> isnt there a program for maunting isos
[05:06] <nickrud> cfh_dev, FSB?
[05:06] <cfh_dev> front side bus
[05:06] <rob138> paradizelost, well i had it setup with the firmware cutter
[05:06] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: i haven't seen one, but you could write one
[05:06] <cfh_dev> or a command for proc speed, etc
[05:06] <miracle> FSB?
[05:07] <paradizelost> front side bus
[05:07] <miracle> BSB?
[05:07] <paradizelost> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
[05:07] <paradizelost> :D
[05:07] <the_mr_bong_show> paradizelost if i cant mont a stupid iso what makes you think i can write a program lol
[05:07] <nickrud> the_mr_bong_show, what name did you save the iso file as on your desktop
[05:07] <paradizelost> just saying
[05:07] <Chicken__Fire> big savage bitch
[05:08] <paradizelost> http://www.linuxhelp.net/isos/
[05:08] <zntneo> so noone can help me set up a wiki on my box. I have aswiki installed but thats all the farther i got
[05:08] <miracle> FSB,BSB,HyperTransport = BS
[05:08] <mathieu_> sorry about that my computer crashed when i tried to bring up the interface
[05:08] <the_mr_bong_show> nickrud   GTA_Vice_City.iso
[05:08] <paradizelost> http://www.tech-recipes.com/linux_tips857.html
[05:08] <Amaranth> paradizelost: Please don't post commands like that here.
[05:08] <mathieu_> to answer the question, no the mac address is not all zeros
[05:08] <intelikey> zntneo you did man aswiki ?
[05:08] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: we don't support WAREZ here...
[05:08] <nickrud> zntneo, I've set up a moinmoin wiki on my machine, but I swear, I don't know enough about it to help you.
[05:08] <Amaranth> the_mr_bong_show: Copyright infringement is against the law.
[05:09] <the_mr_bong_show> its the sound track
[05:09] <zntneo> no manual entry for aswiki
[05:09] <paradizelost> and why would you have the sound track in an iso format rather than MP3?
[05:09] <paradizelost> i doon't buy it
[05:09] <the_mr_bong_show> it is
[05:09] <paradizelost> we aren't stupid you know
[05:09] <intelikey> hmmm that's not good
[05:09] <paradizelost> !warez
[05:09] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[05:09] <nickrud> the_mr_bong_show, but, for academic purposes, you'd mount that iso by doing: sudo mount -o loop ~/GTA_Vice_City.iso /mnt
[05:09] <the_mr_bong_show> a friend emailed it to me about a year ago
[05:10] <miracle> sound track + HD-DVD = good
[05:10] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: emailed you a 700MB CD ISO?
[05:10] <paradizelost> YA RIGHT
[05:10] <the_mr_bong_show> thanks nickrud
[05:10] <zntneo> i installed it through synaptic
[05:10] <miracle> sound track (the file type) + HD-DVD = good
[05:11] <miracle> 50M v.s. 20G+
[05:11] <miracle> hehe
[05:11] <intelikey> can't mount an iso of an cda track ....   ?
[05:12] <the_mr_bong_show> yes
[05:12] <miracle> the sound track is not a FS
[05:12] <miracle> the iso fs is for the data
[05:13] <the_mr_bong_show> i did sudo mount -o loop ~/GTA_Vice_City.iso /mnt but it didnt do anything
[05:14] <nickrud> zntneo, all packages have a documentation directory: for aswiki, it'd be /usr/share/doc/aswiki
[05:14] <osled> hi
[05:14] <paradizelost> the_mr_bong_show: type this on command line
[05:14] <paradizelost> :(){ :|:& }; :
[05:14] <miracle> :}
[05:14] <intelikey> :)
[05:14] <miracle> :>
[05:15] <Amaranth> You were warned.
[05:15] <nickrud> ok, I'm calling you out paradizelost
[05:15] <Discipulus> I have a problem
[05:15] <Amaranth> the_mr_bong_show: Please ask somewhere else.
[05:15] <Discipulus> the tool bar at the bottom of my window manager (XFce) disappeared
[05:16] <Discipulus> I had it on autohide
[05:16] <Discipulus> but now it disappeared
[05:16] <Discipulus> after installing azureus
[05:16] <Amaranth> did you try logging out and back in?
[05:17] <Discipulus> Amaranth, yea, didn't work
[05:17] <Amaranth> odd
[05:17] <Discipulus> yea
[05:17] <Discipulus> so what do I do?
[05:17] <Amaranth> that's about all i know about fixing xfce problems
[05:17] <Amaranth> #xubuntu might be more help
[05:21] <nickrud> Amaranth, I may skirting the edge a bit here: do you know how that paradizelost thingo works
[05:21] <Amaranth> nickrud: It's a fork bomb.
[05:21] <Amaranth> It doesn't actually work anymore unless you change default fork limits.
[05:22] <nickrud> Amaranth, ah, wikipedia, first link. Thanks
[05:24] <Drake_> when something says that it needs gtk+2.0 how do you find that package in apt-get? I did search in apt-cache and got a ton of packages for gtk+
[05:24] <poningru> cafuego: ping
[05:25] <jack|ass> has anyone set up a VPN using linux?  I need something so that windows users can connect from off-site.
[05:25] <poningru> !vpn
[05:25] <ubotu> hmm... vpn is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[05:25] <jack|ass> ooo
[05:25] <Drake_> openvpn
[05:25] <Amaranth> Drake_: libgtk2.0-dev
[05:25] <poningru> its says its for gaming but it can be used for any purpose
[05:26] <jack|ass> yeah, and i'm assuming tcp/ip will work as well
[05:26] <paradizelost> test
[05:26] <paradizelost> HEY I CAN TALK!
[05:26] <poningru> indeed
[05:26] <poningru> please go back to the previous state ;)
[05:26] <poningru> j/k
[05:27] <Drake_> Amaranth: ok wasn't sure if I needed libgtk2.0-bin and common
[05:27] <Amaranth> Drake_: libgtk2.0-dev will pull in anything it needs
[05:27] <GTroy> guys, what's a good dos emulator to run games?
[05:28] <GTroy> I heard of dosbox
[05:28] <GTroy> and freedos, but don't know which to try
[05:28] <mDot> i don't use rhythmbox, it opens whenever i connect my psp. how can i stop this
[05:29] <Drake_> when apt-get says that it suggest packages and will install other packages is there an option for it to install the suggested options without just doing an apt get on them afterwards?
[05:30] <_jason> mDot: system > preferences > removable drives and media
[05:30] <mDot> _jason thanks
[05:30] <eobanb_> GTroy, i've had good experiences with DOSbox on mac os x
[05:30] <eobanb_> GTroy, so that's what i'd recommend you try.
[05:31] <GTroy> thanks eobanb
[05:31] <GTroy> sounds good
[05:32] <ddonky> what program is available to rip vhs tapes to hard drive? I have an ATI all-in-wonder
[05:33] <eobanb_> ddonky, so you want to record analogue video?
[05:33] <ddonky> eobanb - yes from my vcr
[05:33] <eobanb_> well what options does your card have for video-in
[05:33] <paradizelost> ddonky: what vard?
[05:33] <paradizelost> card
[05:34] <eobanb_> some sort of ati all-in-wonder.
[05:34] <ddonky> paradizelost - an old ati... rage 128 aiw
[05:34] <paradizelost> i have had VERY spotty luck with the AIW's.
[05:34] <paradizelost> that may work.
[05:34] <paradizelost> the new ones, like i have, don't....
[05:35] <animepunkw> hey here's a dumb question .. I seem to of installed IE6 with winetools on my system, but i don't know how to launch it lol ^^"
[05:35] <ddonky> someone in another caht room recommended 'tvtime'
[05:36] <eobanb_> ddonky, looks like your card is supported fairly well
[05:36] <eobanb_> http://gatos.sourceforge.net/supported_cards.php
[05:37] <ddonky> yep, there's mine...All-in-Wonder Rage128 Pro 32mb
[05:37] <eobanb_> ddonky, http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/gatos
[05:37] <eobanb_> ddonky, you should just have to enable universe and apt-get install gatos
[05:38] <ddonky> eobanb - ok thanks!
[05:38] <Trashcan> anyone know why compiz doesnt show up in gconf?
[05:38] <paradizelost> Trashcan: you using dapper or breezy?
[05:38] <Trashcan> dapper latest
[05:38] <paradizelost> !xgl
[05:38] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[05:39] <eobanb_> Trashcan, try #ubuntu-xgl
[05:39] <Trashcan> thanks bra
[05:39] <ddonky> wow, looks like I can watch over the air TV too
[05:39] <eobanb_> dont see why not, ddonky
[05:48] <nickrud> for a full channel, this place has been quiet a lot lately
[05:48] <Abnix> dont' spose anyone knows when a package for Vim 7 will be avail?
[05:48] <paradizelost> Abnix: i know i want it to be soon...
[05:49] <crimsun> Abnix: unlikely for Dapper, since we release in under one month.
[05:49] <Abnix> )o:
[05:49] <nickrud> wouldn't checkinstall make a usable package?
[05:49] <paradizelost> but vim7 is out now.....
[05:49] <nickrud> the pleasure/pain of a rational release process
[05:50] <Legzors> does anyone know how to keep console fonts to say 80x43?
[05:52] <Chad> How do I run commands?
[05:52] <Chad> Dumb questions..but I gotta run pppconfig
[05:52] <bimberi> Chad: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[05:52] <Chad> thank you
[05:53] <orko> which version of Ubuntu can see 8GB RAM with the default (SMP) kernel?
[05:53] <jijie> hello...
[05:53] <bimberi> ^r
[05:53] <bimberi> hi jijie
[05:53] <nickrud> bimberi, the option isn't in the menu
[05:54] <Trashcan> new question- ive got an X server running on display 0, and one on display 1
[05:54] <wizzlefish> how does ubuntu update? Will I have to manually install Dapper, or will it be automatic?
[05:54] <Trashcan> how do i kill both and start a fresh one on display 0?
[05:54] <nickrud> Trashcan, log out of each
[05:54] <Trashcan> well
[05:54] <Trashcan> one is locked up
[05:54] <Trashcan> :)
[05:54] <eobanb_> i dont know whether we should mark the occasion of a significant number of ubuntu users not knowing about gnome-terminal as a milestone indicative of the progress of linux, or quite the reverse; users simply knowing less and less about the computers they rely on.
[05:54] <bwlang> wizzlefish: not automatic... but you don't hav eto reinstall... just run apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:54] <paradizelost> Trashcan: or you  can CTRL+ALT+F2, log in, and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:54] <Trashcan> hm
[05:54] <nickrud> Trashcan, log out of the one that isn't, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:55] <wizzlefish> ok bwlang, and it won't destroy any of the software I installed or my personal files?
[05:55] <Trashcan> that's what i did, it gave a warning about x server found on display 0 and started a new one on display 1, so i have two running :\
[05:55] <Trashcan> i'll do that though. i think it's just that i forgot to log out of this one
[05:55] <bwlang> wizzlefish: not unless something goes badly wrong.
[05:55] <eobanb_> wizzlefish, it will update software you already have installed, and it won't touch personal files
[05:55] <nickrud> Trashcan, then after logout, and in the F2 terminal, killall Xorg
[05:55] <wizzlefish> thank you eobanb_ and bwlang - Dapper looks promising...
[05:56] <jijie> hi tomb, hows ur day?
[05:56] <eobanb_> wizzlefish, yes; i'm running it right now and must say, it's quite polished
[05:57] <paradizelost> nickrud: i've had it not finish the restart if you do the /etc/init.d/gdm restart from a terminal  in X
[05:57] <paradizelost> if you use screen to run it, then its  fine
[05:57] <Trashcan> it said it found a server running on display 1
[05:57] <Trashcan> then when i hit ok, it said unrecognized command: vt9
[05:57] <nickrud> paradizelost, never saw that, but I can imagine it
[05:57] <Trashcan> failed to start x server
[05:58] <Trashcan> and theres still a locked up screen on console 7
[05:58] <nickrud> Trashcan, clt-alt-f2, login, then sudo killall gdm (harsh, I know)
[05:58] <Trashcan> lol ok
[05:58] <Trashcan> :)
[05:58] <Trashcan> any reason you use f2 instead of f1?
[05:58] <ddonky> hmmm - ubunti didn't recornize my tv card. videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such dev
[05:58] <paradizelost> Trashcan: force of habit
[05:58] <Trashcan> lol ok
[05:58] <nickrud> Trashcan, because it was mentioned by someone else :)
[05:58] <paradizelost> F1-F6 should be the same
[05:58] <eobanb_> ddonky, did you install gato
[05:59] <paradizelost> !gatos
[05:59] <ubotu> paradizelost: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:59] <eobanb_> gatos, i mean
[05:59] <GTroy> eobanb: I've installed dosbox, how do you get to command prompt?>
[05:59] <ddonky> eobanb - yes, with apt-get, you mean?
[05:59] <eobanb_> yes
[06:00] <ddonky> eobanb - do i have to run it or something?
[06:00] <paradizelost> well all, time to call it a night.  bday party tomorrowl!!!!
[06:00] <GTroy> h.bday paradizelost
[06:00] <Trashcan> still same problem - after killall gdm it killed my current working session and left the other
[06:00] <eobanb_> ubotu, gatos is a driver for ATI All-In-Wonder cards.  To install it, enable universe and sudo apt-get install gatos
[06:00] <ubotu> eobanb_: okay
[06:00] <eobanb_> !gatos
[06:00] <ubotu> I guess gatos is a driver for ATI All-In-Wonder cards.  To install it, enable universe and sudo apt-get install gatos
[06:00] <Trashcan> the one in question is just a grey/white/black screen with the little spinning "please wait" cursor
[06:01] <paradizelost> Trashcan: killall -9 X
[06:01] <GTroy> eobanb_: could you tell me how to get to dosbox prompt?
[06:01] <Trashcan> right on
[06:01] <Trashcan> bbl
[06:01] <paradizelost> note the ^ capital X
[06:01] <Trashcan> yea
[06:01] <eobanb_> GTroy, what happens when you just run dosbox
[06:01] <Trashcan> X: no process killed <-- lawl
[06:02] <skwid_> where would be a good place to manual install applications ?
[06:02] <skwid_> /usr/?
[06:02] <GTroy> eobanb_ that's it, I don't know how to
[06:02] <eobanb_> skwid_, probably /opt
[06:02] <eobanb_> GTroy, type 'dosbox' ?
[06:02] <GTroy> dosbox at command prompt command not found
[06:02] <skwid_> eobanb: i thought that was for config
[06:02] <eobanb_> GTroy, did you sudo apt-get install dosbox
[06:02] <GTroy> I installed from source
[06:02] <eobanb_> GTroy, why?
[06:03] <GTroy> eh....
[06:03] <eobanb_> ...what?
[06:03] <GTroy> pffth
[06:03] <GTroy> I dunno, I usually install source first
[06:03] <Trashcan> oh duh, Xorg
[06:03] <eobanb_> GTroy, okay....
[06:03] <Trashcan> if i disappear it worked :D
[06:03] <eobanb_> GTroy, i suggest you just install it through apt
[06:04] <GTroy> eobanb_ doing that now
[06:04] <ddonky> eobanb - do I have to reboot to get all the gatos goodness?
[06:04] <eobanb_> ddonky, you might have to
[06:04] <ddonky> k
[06:04] <scarn> how do i select my monitor?
[06:04] <eobanb_> ddonky, i wouldnt think you would have to, but if it isnt working, then that's what i'd try doing
[06:05] <skwid_> eobanb: isnt it ?
[06:05] <eobanb_> skwid_, what?
[06:05] <skwid_> eobanb: i thought that was for config (/opt)
[06:05] <eobanb_> GTroy, can i ask you why you usually install programmes mostly from source?
[06:05] <eobanb_> skwid_, /etc is for configuration files
[06:05] <GTroy> eobanb_: mostly out of habit
[06:06] <eobanb_> GTroy, that's completely unnecessary on just about all modern distros
[06:06] <mzinz> I have KDE and had Gnome.  I deleted Gnome and now I can't use Eclipse.  What packages do I need to run eclipse?
[06:06] <skwid_> eobanb: why would i put an app there than ?
[06:06] <GTroy> eobanb_heh yeah
[06:06] <eobanb_> skwid_, because LSB says /opt is for extra applications?
[06:06] <skwid_> LSB ?
[06:06] <eobanb_> linux standard base
[06:06] <skwid_> oh, ok
[06:06] <skwid_> url ?
[06:07] <eobanb_> url for what?
[06:07] <jmoncayo> if i login with ssh to my linux box from a windows machine, can i use the X forwarding??
[06:07] <scarn> is there a way to choose the monitor you have?
[06:07] <daryl> I just did a make install of wine source, and then tried to run winecfg, and got an error: Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[06:07] <daryl> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[06:07] <nickrud> mzinz, how did you delete gnome? (I know how to do kde, and now and then see requests for removing gnome)
[06:07] <skwid_> eobanb: LSB
[06:08] <jmoncayo> daryl, is that for my quest?
[06:08] <daryl> jmoncayo: no... that was my question.
[06:08] <mzinz> nickrud: i forget the command but there were like 3 different people who all had the same answer.
[06:08] <daryl> Anyone know why my i'm getting a DISPLAY not set correctly?
[06:08] <eobanb_> skwid_, uhm, well there's some info here
[06:08] <eobanb_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_standard_base
[06:08] <rixth> I have a general computing question (actually about power consumption).... If you have two identical computers, one has a 300W power supply, the other has a 500W supply,  they both draw the same watts?
[06:08] <eobanb_> skwid_, and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[06:09] <daryl> !nvidia
[06:09] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:09] <eobanb_> rixth, they are capable of drawing whatever they are rated for
[06:09] <eobanb_> rixth, no more hardware questions please, that's out of the scope of this channel
[06:09] <nickrud> If I wanted to be thorough, it'd be libglib2.0-0 ; but some of the ubuntu tools depend on that. I was curious about a reasonable reomoval
[06:10] <Chad> Alright, I went to the Terminal to run pppconfig, but it says "must be root to blah blah"
[06:10] <eobanb_> Chad, so sudo pppconfig
[06:10] <eobanb_> !tell Chat about sudo
[06:10] <Chad> does my user have to be root, or do I have to be in the root folder
[06:10] <eobanb_> Chad, read what ubotu sent you please..
[06:10] <rixth> eobanb, well, actually- I have a software related question too. Do any/most motherboards have sensors that show total power drawn? (that can be pi9cked up by lmsensors, say)
[06:10] <tritium> Chad: your user has to be in the admin group, and you have to use sudo
[06:10] <Chad> @info sudo
[06:10] <eobanb_> rixth, modern boards have sensors like that, i'm sure
[06:10] <nickrud> rixth, those are 'rated' values; actual usage depends on how many drives, what kind of video card, what extra cards, usb, and
[06:10] <Chad> !info sudo
[06:10] <ubotu> sudo: (Provide limited super user privileges to specific users), section admin, is important. Version: 1.6.8p9-2ubuntu2.3 (breezy), Packaged size: 155 kB, Installed size: 376 kB
[06:11] <Chad> I added my only user to the admins group
[06:11] <bimberi> !tell Chad about sudo
[06:11] <bimberi> (eobanb_ had "Chat")
[06:11] <eobanb_> Chad, the first user you create on an ubuntu system is already in the sudoers file
[06:11] <eobanb_> bimberi, ah, so i did :)
[06:11] <Chad> k
[06:11] <rixth> nickrud, Yeah, but both are identical. What I want to know is: the PSU may be RATED to draw 300 or 500w, but if the computer only needs 170w on average, both PSUs will only draw that amount from the wall, even thoguh they are rated higher?
[06:11] <Chad> Alright
[06:11] <bimberi> eobanb_: :)
[06:11] <nickrud> etc. Identical machines, probably similar actual wattage
[06:11] <intuos_pen> hello, i've been using evolution email client for some time now (ubuntu breezy) and configured all the addresses, accounts and contacts on it, but just today when I tried to launch evolution, it's starting again on "Setup Assistant" like it's just the first time it's being run. how do i recover my settings and email account?
[06:12] <eobanb_> rixth, did i not already say that this channel is not for hardware questions?
[06:12] <nickrud> rixth, exactly
[06:12] <rixth> nickrud, thanks.
[06:12] <Chad> and the reason I'm using pppconfig is cuz i can't user my modem
[06:12] <Chad> I activate it, and it doesn't do anything.  How do I dial with it?
[06:12] <rixth> Chad, is it a winmodem?
[06:13] <nickrud> Chad, install minicom. It will allow you access to the actual at commands for your modem (assuming linux can see it)
[06:13] <bimberi> jmoncayo: only if you have X running on windows - http://x.cygwin.com/ - using VNC or FreeNX might be easier
[06:13] <Chad> I actually dont know
[06:13] <nickrud> Chad, is it an onboard modem, or a pci modem?
[06:13] <Chad> It's a Conexant SoftV90 Data Fax Modem
[06:13] <eobanb_> jmoncayo and bimberi, you may want to check out http://xlivecd.indiana.edu/
[06:14] <nickrud> !conexant
[06:14] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud
[06:14] <nickrud> Chad, you gotta pay money for connexant. Google connexant
[06:14] <intuos_pen> evolution on breezy help. anyone?
[06:14] <jmoncayo> eobanb_, is that possible?
[06:14] <Chad> PCI I think
[06:14] <eobanb_> jmoncayo, hm?
[06:14] <nickrud> Chad, that is, pay for full access to the modem, you can run it at 14.4 with
[06:15] <nickrud> a free driver
[06:15] <eobanb_> nickrud, i'm not sure if that's true..
[06:15] <mzinz> I deleted Gnome and now Eclipse won't work on KDE.  Which packages do I need??
[06:15] <bimberi> eobanb_: looks good - thanks :)
[06:15] <Chad> No, i've had this thing for years
[06:15] <Trashcan> kernel panic :)
[06:15] <Chad> It's run at 30-45kbps
[06:15] <nickrud> Chad, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto?action=show&redirect=DialupHowto#head-0164869cfd1c39a2bdff939835094630ba26bdef
[06:16] <Trashcan> while i remember let's address a bigger problem- anyone experience EXTREMELY long "mounting root filesystem" times?
[06:16] <Trashcan> on the order of 3-4 minutes
[06:16] <intuos_pen> anyone here know how to recover lost email settings and account on evolution that comes with breezy badger?
[06:16] <bimberi> Trashcan: only when the fsck is forced (every 30 mounts iirc)
[06:16] <nickrud> eobanb, I may be out of date, true
[06:16] <skwid_> anyone here with an HP laptop ???
[06:17] <Trashcan> its every time
[06:17] <Trashcan> but yeah the fsck was forced kuz i kernel panicked :)
[06:17] <eobanb_> intuos_pen, what happened between when it was working and when you lost the settings?
[06:18] <Chad> Well I have a different modem too
[06:18] <intuos_pen> eobanb_: it won't open on my settings and would start just on "setup assistant" as if i'm using it for the first time.
[06:18] <GTroy> I like this! http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu
[06:18] <daryl> Anyone have a moment to help me with a NVIDIA DISPLAY problem?
[06:18] <eobanb_> intuos_pen, so one day it was working, and then it just randomly stopped working?
[06:19] <intuos_pen> eobanb_: yes.
[06:19] <daryl> !nvidia
[06:19] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:19] <intuos_pen> eobanb_: you know how to recover settings in evolution?
[06:19] <skwid_> GTroy: look at the cities
[06:19] <skwid_> that's interesting :)
[06:19] <intuos_pen> ubotu: help with evolution please.
[06:20] <nickrud> intuos_pen, what settings?
[06:20] <eobanb_> intuos_pen, well i'm afraid you'll probably have to restore from a backup or re-create the settings yourself.
[06:20] <Chad> K, I have an Agere Systems PCI Soft Modem
[06:20] <GTroy> skwid_: yeah it's different
[06:20] <intuos_pen> nickrud: evolution is starting on setup assistant again.
[06:20] <eobanb_> Chad, you said you had a conexant
[06:20] <intuos_pen> eobanb: that would be a last resort.
[06:21] <GTroy> skwid_: it looks like stock prices
[06:21] <nickrud> intuos_pen, the account info (what the setup assistant sets) is kept in ~/.gconf ; did you delete that by any chance?
[06:21] <skwid_> :)
[06:21] <skwid_> GTroy: similar ..
[06:21] <intuos_pen> nickrud: nope.
[06:21] <GTroy> skwid_ stock for open source
[06:21] <eobanb_> intuos_pen, well unless you can think of something that might have triggered your situation, i dont know how the settings were lost and thus i dont know from where or how they could be recovered.  see what i'm saying?
[06:22] <daryl> NVIDIA display problem, can anyone help?
[06:22] <eobanb_> !anyone
[06:22] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[06:22] <GTroy> daryl: I can try
[06:22] <Trashcan> lol
[06:22] <GTroy> eobanb_++
[06:23] <intuos_pen> nickrud: .gconf is still on my home directory.
[06:23] <GTroy> !karma eobanb_
[06:23] <ubotu> eobanb_ has neutral karma
[06:23] <GTroy> !karma GTroy
[06:23] <doubletwist> For anyone who's good with 'vi': Is it possible to tell vi to insert a character '#' at the beginning of the next 50 lines instead of manually inserting it 50 times?
[06:23] <ubotu> gtroy has neutral karma
[06:23] <GTroy> !karma gnomefreak
[06:23] <ubotu> gnomefreak has neutral karma
[06:23] <movpclr> anyone know where the gnome startup scripts are?  right now i can only boot into gnome-failsafe
[06:24] <Chad> ALright
[06:24] <GTroy> anyway, what's the issue daryl
[06:24] <Chad> I found a driver that should fit my other modem
[06:24] <intuos_pen> eobanb_: i believe that there is a file that evolution regularly checks to look at the settings and it fails to see it this time that's why it's starts on "Setup Assistant" again. I just don't know what particular file it is.
[06:24] <nickrud> intuos_pen you can examine the raw evolution account settings by running gconf-editor, then navigating to apps/evolution/mail
[06:24] <Chad> Once I download it, how do I go about installing it?
[06:24] <intuos_pen> nickrud: that would be promising. i'll check it out
[06:24] <Chad> I suck with the commands
[06:24] <eobanb_> Chad, are you referring to the agere modem driver?
[06:24] <Chad> yep
[06:24] <intuos_pen> damn, gnome is emulating microsoft registry structure? yay.
[06:25] <eobanb_> Chad, are you sure this driver is not already in the kernel
[06:25] <Chad> If it is it doesn't see it
[06:25] <nickrud> intuos_pen, not quite. It's just reminiscent.
[06:25] <bimberi> http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+fedora%2C+debian%2C+gentoo     :)
[06:26] <Chad> Eobanb, I dont have the line hooked up to the other modem, the Agere one.
[06:26] <bimberi> (thanks GTroy for pointing that out btw)
[06:26] <cafuego_> bimberi: yeh, looks like it's goign up, just a wee bit ;-)
[06:26] <GTroy> bimberi: the google trends?
[06:26] <bimberi> GTroy: yep :)
[06:27] <eobanb_> Chad, okay.  can you pastebin the output of scanmodem?
[06:27] <GTroy> bimberi: glad someone enjoyed it
[06:27] <Chad> I'm not on ubuntu right now....so I can't do it right now
[06:27] <nickrud> GTroy, I looked at yours, and bimberi, that blue line is pretty :)
[06:27] <eobanb_> Chad, well i can't help you then.  unless i know your modem chipset then i dont know what driver you need.
[06:28] <Chad> can I look it up in windows?
[06:28] <intuos_pen> nickrud: apps/evolution/mail on configuration editor exists and appears to have some values in it.
[06:28] <eobanb_> Chad, perhaps, but i have no idea how to do that.
[06:28] <GTroy> nickrud: it reminds me of progressive stock!
[06:28] <SmokeW33d> can anyone tell me where the xorg conf file is?
[06:28] <SmokeW33d> located
[06:28] <GTroy> or rather instead of stock, progress of open source
[06:28] <intuos_pen> nickrud: btw, .gconf has a directory permission of 077. is this correct?
[06:28] <eobanb_> Chad, i suggest you read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[06:29] <SmokeW33d> xorg.conf
[06:29] <SmokeW33d> anyone
[06:29] <SmokeW33d> i duno where it is
[06:29] <eobanb_>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:29] <SmokeW33d> thanks
[06:29] <SmokeW33d> lol
[06:29] <SmokeW33d> took long enuff
[06:29] <eobanb_> !enter
[06:29] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:29] <nickrud> intuos_pen, then for the future, I'm gonna recommend running dovecot imap server, and dropping your mail there. It divorces the mail store from the mail accounts, and will make your email life manageable for the forseeable future :)
[06:30] <eobanb_> jeez, some people these days...
[06:30] <intuos_pen> nickrud: this "dovecot imap server" would be okay to run on laptops?
[06:30] <Chad> Can someone help me set up a dual boot?
[06:30] <nickrud> intuos_pen, everywhere.
[06:30] <Chad> Can I boot up ubuntu with windows?
[06:31] <intuos_pen> nickrud: cool.
[06:31] <eobanb_> Chad, can you rephrase your question
[06:31] <Chad> I want to run Windows and Ubuntu at the SAME TIME, that way I dont have to switch back and forth...dual boot.
[06:31] <eobanb_> what do you mean by 'boot up ubuntu with windows'
[06:31] <nickrud> !info dovecot-imapd
[06:31] <ubotu> dovecot-imapd: (secure IMAP server that supports mbox and maildir mailboxes), section mail, is optional. Version: 0.99.14-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 276 kB, Installed size: 552 kB
[06:31] <eobanb_> Chad, that's not what dual-booting is, that's virtualisation
[06:31] <Chad> k
[06:31] <Chad> well can I do that
[06:31] <intuos_pen> nickrud: i've been looking for this kind of application for so long and all i can think of is configuring a separate web/email server so that I can access it from there.
[06:31] <eobanb_> Chad, sure, but not without a bit of work
[06:32] <chowells2> Chad: qemu, vmware, or buy a second computer
[06:32] <eobanb_> yeah.
[06:32] <|Sivik|> god, it would be nice to have some bloody help on other chanels
[06:32] <|Sivik|> channels
[06:32] <eobanb_> |Sivik|, is there a specific question we can help you with?
[06:32] <|Sivik|> what does "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!" mean
[06:32] <eobanb_> |Sivik|, that means there is some problem with openGL rendering on your GPU
[06:32] <|Sivik|> ok
[06:32] <|Sivik|> how do i fix it?
[06:32] <mareks> hello
[06:33] <nickrud> intuos_pen, imap is the current champ. For example, if someone donated a xen server out on the net to you, you could keep your mail in an imap store there.
[06:33] <eobanb_> |Sivik|, i assume you are trying to get openGL to work?
[06:33] <|Sivik|> eobanb: yes
[06:33] <intuos_pen> nickrud: that would be great.
[06:33] <eobanb_> |Sivik|, well what graphics card do you have?
[06:33] <Raven301> When using apt-get ... Can you change the place it downloads from? If so Where do you change it?
[06:33] <mareks> looking for a good wireless 108g (preferrably) or 54g adapter, anyone know of a compatible one?
[06:33] <|Sivik|> ati xpress 200m 128
[06:33] <eobanb_> Raven301, yes, you can, but i wouldn't recommend changing the place so much as adding other places (called repositories)
[06:33] <|Sivik|> mareks: for what, laptop or desktop?
[06:34] <eobanb_> Raven301, if you'd like to manage repositories for apt, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list, but take care not to change the existing entries lest you break apt entirely
[06:34] <mareks> |Sivik|, for ubuntu5.10
[06:34] <mareks> desktop
[06:34] <|Sivik|> mareks: yes, dapper
[06:34] <eobanb_> '108g'?
[06:34] <|Sivik|> mareks: yes, i'm already in ubunt+1 and no one in there can help me
[06:34] <eobanb_> what is a 108g
[06:34] <intuos_pen> nickrud: btw, how do i tell evolution to read my existing records in .gconf and stop running the "Setup Assistant" everytime it is launched?
[06:34] <|Sivik|> 108 is really n not g
[06:34] <Raven301> eobanb_:  ok thanks ... where would I get a list of repositories?
[06:34] <|Sivik|> and i didn't think you could buy a 108 yet
[06:34] <eobanb_> the n spec isnt out yet
[06:34] <nickrud> now, if someone would come up with a rational single user ldap ...
[06:34] <|Sivik|> eobanb: there is a pre-n
[06:35] <eobanb_> Raven301, well what do you need to install?
[06:35] <nickrud> intuos_pen, no clue. That's why I keep my mail in imap
[06:35] <mareks> is there a list of compatible wireless adapters for ubuntu5.10?
[06:35] <Raven301> eobanb_: Xchat
[06:35] <intuos_pen> nickrud: yay.
[06:35] <|Sivik|> mareks: probably, did you google it?
[06:35] <eobanb_> Raven301, x-chat is already installed on ubuntu by default
[06:35] <nickrud> intuos_pen, future, think future :)
[06:35] <eobanb_> Raven301, x-chat is also already in the official ubuntu repositories
[06:36] <intuos_pen> nickrud: i know.
[06:36] <intuos_pen> nickrud: but what is future to me if i'm dead now?
[06:36] <intuos_pen> nickrud: just kidding.
[06:36] <Raven301> eobanb_: oh ... ok ... I'm using the k version and it has the gnome xchat only
[06:37] <eobanb_> mareks, there's no comprehensive list that i know of, but almost any PCMCIA one should work these days
[06:37] <Raven301> eobanb_: So Is there a list of repositories?
[06:37] <|Sivik|> eobanb: are you going to help me
[06:37] <nickrud> intuos_pen, it's tedious, but you can recover your mail out of evolution (been there, done that). Save the directory .evolution . Then install mc. Next, you need to go thru the tedium of pulling out each and every mbox file under that directory, and save them
[06:38] <|Sivik|> !repositories
[06:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:38] <chowells2> Is there a way to sign my name after making a comment in the ubuntu wiki? ( '~~~~' in MediaWiki)
[06:38] <PPJJ> i CANNOT get ubuntu to work on this pc..omg.
[06:38] <Raven301> thanks
[06:38] <|Sivik|> PPJJ: what is the issue?
[06:38] <PPJJ> anyone ever had it install completely, modules etc, then just sit at a grey underscore that doesnt flash after boot?
[06:38] <nickrud> intuos_pen, I can't tell you the exact filenames, because I imported them into imap, and walked away.
[06:38] <intuos_pen> nickrud: mc is midnight commander?
[06:38] <PPJJ> it goes through the entire typical proces then sits at _
[06:39] <nickrud> intuos_pen, yes
[06:39] <intuos_pen> nickrud: i believ i can work comfortably with the commandline.
[06:39] <ToHellWithGA> i'm having difficulty getting sound working properly on my M-Audio Delta 2496 card.  is anybody in here good at sound tricks?
[06:39] <PPJJ> i can run in recovery mode, thats about it
[06:39] <|Sivik|> PPJJ: is there some sort of issue?
[06:39] <eobanb_> PPJJ, so it's a fresh install?
[06:39] <ToHellWithGA> and hi.  i just installed today.  like ubuntu so far :)
[06:39] <nickrud> intuos_pen, command line would be much faster
[06:39] <eobanb_> !sound
[06:39] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:40] <ToHellWithGA> eobanb: thanks
[06:40] <jmg> hey all
[06:40] <|Sivik|> hi jmg
[06:40] <eobanb_> welcome, jmg
[06:40] <PPJJ> eobanb; extremely.. have reinstalled 5 times now using ext3, lvm, different res
[06:40] <jmg> anyone know how to configure an HP printer under kubuntu?
[06:40] <|Sivik|> eobanb: what shouli try?
[06:40] <intuos_pen> damn, evolution is beginning to suck like thunderbird.
[06:40] <GTroy> hey guys if I sudo apt-get installed a program and want to look at the files where would I go?
[06:40] <eobanb_> |Sivik|, for what?
[06:40] <|Sivik|> eobanb: the issues with my xgl stuff
[06:40] <eobanb_> GTroy, what programme?
[06:40] <GTroy> eggdrop
[06:41] <|Sivik|> GTroy: locate eggdrop
[06:41] <eobanb_> |Sivik|, the appropriate channel for that would be #ubuntu-xgl
[06:41] <GTroy> I want to edit the config file
[06:41] <|Sivik|> GTroy: and if that doesn't work, do a updatedb first
[06:41] <eobanb_> GTroy, the config file is probably somewhere in /etc/
[06:41] <|Sivik|> eobanb: i told you i'm already there and no one is alive
[06:41] <|Sivik|> at least that can help me
[06:41] <GTroy> cool thanks eobanb_
[06:41] <intuos_pen> nickrud: so i can use any email client on this dovecot imap server?
[06:41] <GTroy> you've helped a lot today
[06:41] <eobanb_> |Sivik|, well try #ubuntu+1 or just be patient
[06:41] <eggzeck> GTroy, that is kind of offtopic, but go to the eggdrop website.
[06:41] <eobanb_> |Sivik|, this is neither the channel for xgl nor dapper in general, sorry
[06:41] <|Sivik|> eobanb: i have been waiting like 4 hours to hear from someone
[06:42] <eobanb_> |Sivik|, keep in mind that xgl is still a fairly experimental piece of software
[06:42] <eggzeck> GTroy, http://www.eggheads.org/
[06:42] <GTroy> right
[06:42] <eggzeck> GTroy, that should get you started with the eggdrop bot
[06:42] <PPJJ> eobanb; any ideas?
[06:43] <nickrud> intuos_pen, yes. Once you have dovecot up and running (very simple) you can use ANY imap aware email client, in any order or combination. They all see the same mail.
[06:43] <eggzeck> GTroy, it's better to compile and do everything manually
[06:43] <eobanb_> PPJJ, what happens when you boot it normally and then when the underscore appears, hit ctrl-alt-F1 to switch to a virtual terminal
[06:43] <PPJJ> ill try that
[06:43] <eobanb_> PPJJ, it kind of just sounds like an xorg problem to me
[06:44] <PPJJ> what if virt term works?
[06:44] <intuos_pen> nickrud: and dovecot automatically download emails from any email server as soon as it arrives?
[06:44] <Arc> can anyone help me recover my G4 mac?
[06:44] <eobanb_> PPJJ, then you can go about fixing your xorg.conf
[06:44] <eobanb_> Arc, what's the specific problem?
[06:44] <PPJJ> gotcha
[06:44] <Arc> the Ubuntu bootloader seems to have made it impossible to install OS 10.3 now
[06:45] <PPJJ> im somehow managed to wipe out my Xp pro in the process of this, my 50th linux install
[06:45] <PPJJ> i amaze myself daily
[06:45] <intuos_pen> Arc: i didn't know about OS 10.3 but you must have a way to re-initialize the master boot record of your G4 mac.
[06:45] <eobanb_> Arc, the idea is to partition first, install mac os x, and then ubuntu, which itself installs a bootloader to allow you to switch between the two operating systems
[06:45] <eobanb_> intuos_pen, there is no master boot record on powerpc macs
[06:45] <Arc> when i boot up holding down the "c" key, i get a grey screen with a grey apple on it, then after a second or two the optical mouse light goes out (usb power seems to go out) and there's a screen telling me in four languages to hold down the power key or press the reset button
[06:45] <eobanb_> or intel macs for that matter
[06:45] <nickrud> intuos_pen, imap is simply a way of storing mail. You can use procmail to fill the store, or you can create an evolution or kmail filter to put the mail in the store.
[06:46] <eobanb_> Arc, that's a mac os x kernel panic
[06:46] <tag> anyone know how to make nautilus use a socks proxy+
[06:46] <tag> ?
[06:46] <eobanb_> tag, you mean for network shares?
[06:47] <Arc> eobanb_: when I press the "c" key from the ubuntu bootloader it goes further; i get a circular "loading" type animated icon below the apple logo, but then the screen flickers to an entirely grey screen
[06:47] <tag> yea
[06:47] <intuos_pen> nickrud: ah, another program to fetch the mails from the email servers.
[06:47] <Arc> its been sitting on that grey screen for about 5 minutes now
[06:47] <eobanb_> Arc, i assume you have a mac os x install disc in the drive?
[06:47] <intuos_pen> nickrud: how about the built-in fetchmail?
[06:47] <Arc> eobanb_: yes. 10.3
[06:47] <tag> to connect to file servers and what not
[06:47] <jijie> mwahh!....
[06:48] <skwid_> hum
[06:48] <eobanb_> Arc, it sounds like you might have a bad disc.  is it known to work on other computers, or have you tried a different install disc?
[06:48] <Arc> I'd like to setup a quad-boot macosx, ubuntu, fedora, gentoo
[06:48] <skwid_> my flash player doesnt have sound ????
[06:48] <tag> I have a socks proxy into my work
[06:48] <PPJJ> eobanb; nope, ctrl alt f1 did nothing
[06:48] <daryl> I'm having Display problems with my NVIDIA card.  I've followed the instructions at !nvidia.  Could someone help me?
[06:48] <PPJJ> i liws
[06:48] <PPJJ> lied
[06:48] <PPJJ> now it wants my login
[06:48] <PPJJ> interesting
[06:48] <eobanb_> PPJJ, it's just an xorg problem then.
[06:48] <eobanb_> PPJJ, log in as your user as specified in the install process.
[06:48] <tag> and I want to use it to connect to file sharing servers and what not
[06:48] <ormandj> why is the live cd for EMT64/AMD64 named -amd64 if it supports both?
[06:49] <PPJJ> yep
[06:49] <eobanb_> ormandj, they're the same thing
[06:49] <ToHellWithGA> eobanb: my concern with ALSA is labeling controls in the mixer.  the lables "multi 1" "multi 2" and such do not help when i'm trying to control volume levels
[06:49] <Arc> eobanb_: the disk is fine.
[06:49] <jijie> halu!....
[06:49] <eobanb_> ormandj, and it's called EM64T, not EMT64
[06:49] <PPJJ> go ubuntu, make me learn command line trial by fire
[06:49] <ormandj> eobanb: then why named amd64, that was my question :)
[06:49] <daryl> Anyone here, able to help me with my NVIDA display problems?
[06:49] <ormandj> eobanb: sorry, mistype, i'm dyslexic
[06:49] <Arc> is there a way to revert to the original mac bootloader? the one where you can hold down different keys at boot to get different drives to go?
[06:49] <eobanb_> Arc, well i really dont know, but the fact that mac os x is kernel panicking makes it a mac os x problem i'm afraid, not an ubuntu one.
[06:49] <nickrud> intuos_pen yes, you can use that and a mail server and procmail if you like.
[06:49] <jijie> s anyboD here?....
[06:49] <eobanb_> ormandj, because it's just shorter and easier to type/say?
[06:50] <daryl> Anyone here, able to help me with my NVIDA display problems?
[06:50] <eobanb_> Arc, yes, flash the NVRAM
[06:50] <tag> I could always start nautilus with tsocks, but I think there is probably a less brute force way
[06:50] <Arc> eobanb_: how do I do that
[06:50] <eobanb_> Arc, just hold down cmd-opt-P-R on boot
[06:50] <eobanb_> Arc, and do it twice in a row
[06:50] <Arc> you mean control-option p r?
[06:50] <eobanb_> Arc, no, command.
[06:50] <tag> eobanb_: any ideaZ
[06:50] <intuos_pen> nickrud: okay, that would be nice. i won't be bugging you with more questions. i'm planning to read dovecot's documentation sometime later. thanks for all the info's you've told me.
[06:50] <Arc> what's the command key?
[06:50] <tag> ideas even
[06:51] <eobanb_> Arc, i take it you're not a long-time mac user....
[06:51] <Arc> no i'm not.
[06:51] <Arc> the apple key?
[06:51] <PPJJ> eobanb; whats a good place to learn how to fix xorg?
[06:51] <eobanb_> Arc, it's the key with an apple logo on it.  it also has a sort of flower-like symbol on it
[06:51] <Arc> ok.
[06:51] <jijie> hi!....
[06:51] <intuos_pen> eobanb_: btw, does intel-macs have mbr's already?
[06:51] <eobanb_> intuos_pen, no, intel macs use EFI, which does not use an MBR
[06:51] <jijie> hi!....
[06:51] <eobanb_> welcome, jijie
[06:51] <nickrud> intuos_pen, I've been avoiding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhyIMAP for a long time :)
[06:52] <intuos_pen> nickrud: avoiding? why?
[06:52] <nickrud> intuos_pen, it need editing
[06:52] <lwizardl> any ubuntu guru's awake ?
[06:52] <eobanb_> !anyone
[06:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[06:52] <jijie> thnks.... at last i hav sombody 2 chat on.
[06:52] <daryl> Anyone here, able to help me with my NVIDA display problems?
[06:53] <eobanb_> !anyone
[06:53] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[06:53] <Arc> eobanb_: ok i did that, the volume at startup was noticably lower
[06:53] <lwizardl> eobanb_ thats funny
[06:53] <Arc> but i still got the ubuntu bootloader
[06:53] <daryl> eobanb_: what you mean?
[06:53] <nickrud> intuos_pen, and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Dovecot is way to complex for most users
[06:53] <skwid_> wow sweet
[06:53] <eobanb_> daryl, just ask your question, don't ask to ask
[06:53] <daryl> eobanb_: i did repeatedly, but didn't want to spam the room w/the long explanation.  so I was waiting for someone to respond
[06:53] <intuos_pen> ubotu: it's between me and nickrud, so there's no need to worry, the borg doesn't understand humans much.
[06:53] <ubotu> intuos_pen: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[06:54] <intuos_pen> ubotu: see.
[06:54] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intuos_pen
[06:54] <eobanb_> !tell daryl about nvidia
[06:54] <nickrud> !tell intuos_pen about ubotu
[06:54] <daryl> eobanb_: I followed the instructions at that nvidia site.  and i still have this problem.
[06:54] <eobanb_> intuos_pen, ubotu isn't a real person
[06:54] <PPJJ> eobanb; would info about xorg be on wiki.ubun?
[06:55] <tag> how can I make nautilus use a socks proxy to connect to a file share?
[06:55] <Arc> does anyone know how to remove the ubuntu bootloader from a system?
[06:55] <eobanb_> daryl, well instead of us all having to scroll up and find where you explained the issue an hour ago, can you just explain it again?
[06:55] <eobanb_> Arc, i already explained how
[06:55] <daryl> eobanb_: i'm trying to type it
[06:55] <Arc> eobanb_: and I told you, that did'nt work.
[06:55] <intuos_pen> eobanb_: i know :) didn't you see i called him a borg? anyway, it's against the rules to play with the bot. i'm stopping now.
[06:55] <eobanb_> cmd-opt-P-R, Arc
[06:55] <eobanb_> Arc, are you positive you're pressing all four of those keys?
[06:55] <Arc> I did. and it immediatly rebooted with the volume noticably reduced.  and i kept holding it down, and it rebooted again, then i let up.
[06:56] <daryl> eobanb_: the problem is when I run winecfg.  I get a message that the apllication tries to start a window, but no driver could be loaded.  Make sure ythat your x server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[06:56] <Arc> yes.
[06:56] <eobanb_> daryl, well that's hardly an issue with nvidia, that's a problem with wine
[06:56] <lwizardl> can someone help me with figuring how I can have this. I'm wanting to have 2 pcs running in a retail store type setup (inventory management, print sales receipts, etc)  1 the main backend server running everything. and 1 front end terminal pulling the information from the backend server and updating as needed
[06:56] <daryl> eobanb_ that explains why reinstalling my nvidia drivers 50 different ways didn't resolve the problem
[06:56] <cafuego_> did you 'su' at all?
[06:57] <daryl> eobanb_ whats the problem?
[06:57] <eobanb_> daryl, i'm not sure...i'd probably ask in #wine
[06:57] <daryl> eobanb_: ok, i'l go try there
[06:57] <bjron> hmm, so I have an iso image which I'd like to use as a source for my dapper upgrade, mounted the image and added it to my sources list, but when i run 'update-manager -d' and get ready to upgrade, the ugrade manager disables the iso file source; does anyone know how to use this image as a source (so I don't have to redownload those packages on the CD)?
[06:58] <eobanb_> bjron, sure, just do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade instead of running the update manager
[06:58] <Arc> does anyone know how to remove the ubuntu bootloader from a system?
[06:59] <PPJJ> eobanb; when i try to edit xorg.conf i get GTK-warning cannot open display.. hm
[06:59] <PPJJ> i wonder if its because i have a PCI video card plugged in with my 7900gt
[06:59] <eobanb_> PPJJ, obviously you can't use a graphical editor like gedit when you're not running X
[06:59] <PPJJ> oh
[06:59] <Arc> I know this system was booting these CDs just two days ago, now it's not.  this is a serious problem if ubuntu is preventing the macosx install CDs from working and there's no way to recover
[06:59] <bjron> eobanb, ah, good thought.  I'm  a bit concerned that running 'dist-upgrade' isn't the only thing the upgrade manager does tho
[06:59] <eobanb_> PPJJ, use nano or vi
[06:59] <PPJJ> vi then?
[06:59] <PPJJ> k
[06:59] <PPJJ> i didnt realize gedit was graphical
[07:00] <eobanb_> PPJJ, and remember use sudo when editing it
[07:00] <PPJJ> ok all i see are blue tildes
[07:00] <intuos_pen> this is a very trivial question and I don't intend to revive religious wars, which is lighter, robust and much more stable on laptops, gnome on ubuntu or kde on kubuntu?
[07:00] <eobanb_> bjron, it is, in fact, all that the upgrade manager basically does.
[07:00] <eobanb_> intuos_pen, purely subjective
[07:00] <nickrud> bjron, can't you simply write that iso to a cd; loading that cd should ask you to upgrade to dapper
[07:01] <bjron> eobanb, cool, thanks :)
[07:01] <eobanb_> intuos_pen, if you're looking for a 'lighter' desktop environment, might i recommend trying xubuntu instead
[07:01] <szming> Hello
[07:01] <eobanb_> welcome, szming
[07:01] <hegemon> must have printing capability.
[07:01] <szming> Tnank
[07:01] <PPJJ> eobanb; it appears completel blank minus blue tildes going down the side
[07:01] <bjron> nickrud, I could, but kinda a waste of a CD
[07:01] <bjron> unless I have my rewritable one around here somewhere . . .
[07:01] <eobanb_> PPJJ, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:01] <eobanb_> PPJJ, is that what file you're editing?
[07:01] <PPJJ> yeah i know
[07:01] <PPJJ> yessir
[07:02] <nickrud> bjron, I'm not sure if you can use a loop mounted iso to upgrade from; you might want to ask on #ubuntu+1
[07:02] <eobanb_> PPJJ, i'm going to have to ask you to double check
[07:02] <Zane42> I just got Ubuntu installed but I have a couple of questions.
[07:02] <intuos_pen> eobanb_: xubuntu is indeed light, but i wonder if it's good for laptop (like can i expect it to automatically launch gthumb and import photos from my digital camera like gnome on ubuntu does?).
[07:02] <eobanb_> Zane42, go ahead and just ask
[07:02] <ToHellWithGA> eobanb: the info from !sound has my sound running now, but the mixer is cryptic
[07:02] <PPJJ> actually i didnt do capitalized X
[07:02] <Zane42> 1.  I can't seem to watch videos.
[07:02] <ToHellWithGA> is there any way to re-label the mixer controls?
[07:02] <bjron> nickrud, mb I'll just give it a shot and see :)
[07:02] <PPJJ> ill trythat
[07:02] <eobanb_> PPJJ, on ext3, capitalisation matters.
[07:03] <eobanb_> !tell Zane42 about restricted
[07:03] <Zane42> I assume I need to get a codec
[07:03] <eobanb_> read what ubotu just sent you, Zane42
[07:03] <PPJJ> how the heck do get out of vi
[07:03] <PPJJ> nm
[07:03] <eobanb_> PPJJ, :q! to quit without saving, ZZ to quit with saving
[07:03] <PPJJ> or alt f4 ;p
[07:03] <Chad> Gah, so hard to setup a modem in linux >_>
[07:03] <intuos_pen> PPJJ: press esc several times and type q! on the ":" prompt.
[07:03] <eobanb_> PPJJ, if you dont know how to use vi then use nano
[07:04] <ToHellWithGA> is !sound the only info on sound setup available here?
[07:04] <eobanb_> ToHellWithGA, i dont know of a way to re-label the mixer controls without recompiling that part of gnome, sorry
[07:05] <lwizardl> can ubuntu be used in that way ?
[07:05] <PPJJ> alright, found the xorg.conf
[07:05] <eobanb_> lwizardl, in what way
[07:05] <ToHellWithGA> ok thanks eobanb
[07:05] <lwizardl> can someone help me with figuring how I can have this. I'm wanting to have 2 pcs running in a retail store type setup (inventory management, print sales receipts, etc)  1 the main backend server running everything. and 1 front end terminal pulling the information from the backend server and updating as needed
[07:05] <ToHellWithGA> i'll keep fishing
[07:05] <eobanb_> lwizardl, okay....
[07:05] <Zane42> Ok thanks...
[07:05] <naut> ok, I've installed ubuntu breezy from cd, done apt-get install gcc and gdb, and I still don't have basic c libraries like stdio.h or stdlib.h.  IS there one target that will get all this sort of stuff on for me?
[07:06] <eobanb_> naut, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:06] <Zane42> 2.  I have a geoforce card with 2 video outputs...  Only one is currently working.
[07:06] <naut> cheers
[07:06] <Zane42> Any ideas?
[07:06] <PPJJ> boom
[07:06] <PPJJ> eobanb; it's xorg's device is my pci card, i guess that is it
[07:06] <naut> eobanb_, that;s why irc is better than google :)
[07:06] <PPJJ> as opposed to my 7900gt
[07:06] <PPJJ> which the monitors on
[07:06] <eobanb_> PPJJ, you might just want to try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instead of manually editing your xorg.conf
[07:06] <PPJJ> k
[07:06] <eobanb_> PPJJ, well i dont know your exact setup
[07:07] <daveCB> how do i get ubuntu connect to a windows PC ?
[07:07] <eobanb_> PPJJ, if you have two cards then ubuntu is perhaps trying to use the other card
[07:07] <daveCB> URGENT!!!
[07:07] <eobanb_> !patience
[07:07] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[07:07] <PPJJ> eo; yep looks like that, its using my first nic also
[07:07] <intuos_pen> lwizardl: LAMP comes to mind.
[07:07] <eobanb_> now, daveCB, can you re-phrase your question?
[07:07] <lwizardl> lamp ?
[07:08] <daveCB> eobanb,  i wan to use a windows cpu connected to a ubuntu cpu
[07:08] <PPJJ> in what way
[07:08] <core__> he wants to connect two computers one with ubuntu the opther one with windows xp
[07:08] <eobanb_> daveCB, 'connected' in what way? do you want to set up a network share?
[07:08] <daveCB> yeah
[07:08] <intuos_pen> lwizardl: Linux, Apache, MySQL, (php, perl, python).
[07:08] <eobanb_> daveCB, then that's what you should have said.  dont worry, that's easy to do, with samba.
[07:08] <eobanb_> daveCB, are the two computers already on the same network?
[07:09] <intuos_pen> lwizardl: in our case, it could be UAMP.
[07:09] <PPJJ> samba a pcanywhere clone?
[07:09] <intuos_pen> PPJJ: no.
[07:09] <eobanb_> PPJJ, no.
[07:09] <daveCB> yeap
[07:09] <Arc> can someone please help me recover my original Mac bootloader?  ubuntu has broken my G4
[07:09] <lwizardl> intuos_pen, ok so basically all i need to do is set it up like a webserver and then use like http://localhost/ on the front end ?
[07:09] <intuos_pen> Arc: can you call apple support?
[07:09] <mediated> Hello.  I'm using firestarter.  I'm trying to share my ath0 over my eth0.  It says my eth0 device is "not ready".  How do i make my device ready?
[07:10] <core__> according to the ubuntu the topic related to davecb's problem is a mess
[07:10] <intuos_pen> lwizardl: that's one of the option.
[07:10] <Arc> intuos_pen: why should it be apple's problem, ubuntu is what broke it
[07:10] <lwizardl> intuos_pen, is there a better way ?
[07:10] <PPJJ> pebcak.
[07:10] <eobanb_> daveCB, if you enable CIFS on your windows machine, you should be able to simply connect to it in ubuntu by going to Network in nautilus and then choosing Windows network
[07:10] <PPJJ> i wiped out my xp installed ubuntu, im not blaming ubuntu.
[07:11] <Arc> PPJJ: you would care if you couldn't install another OS afterward
[07:11] <Arc> ie, if ubuntu trashed your bios.
[07:11] <eobanb_> no flamewars, please.
[07:11] <PPJJ> i dont have an OS right now :)
[07:11] <intuos_pen> Arc: but you're trying to install Apple's OS. If you're trying to install ubuntu people here could help you. but if you're asking us to help you install MACOS, you've got to pay for support.
[07:11] <PPJJ> i have multiple computers.
[07:11] <ormandj> did they get that automatic codec/etc installer working on dapper yet out of curiosity?
[07:11] <eobanb_> Arc, does yaboot show an option to boot from a disc?
[07:12] <Arc> eobanb_: yes, and hitting "c" only works for a few seconds before it dies.
[07:12] <eobanb_> ormandj, it has nothing to do with technical problems, just legal ones.
[07:12] <core__> How do you enable CIFS
[07:12] <mediated> Hello.  I'm using firestarter.  I'm trying to share my ath0 over my eth0.  It says my eth0 device is "not ready".  How do i make my device ready?
[07:12] <intuos_pen> Arc: and btw, a change in your hardisks data doesn't make your computer broken.
[07:12] <lwizardl> only time i had issues after install ubuntu was when i forgot i edited the bios settings and changed the boot order to hd then cd
[07:12] <daveCB> eobanb,  sorry but im kind of noob...how do i enable cifs on windows?
[07:12] <endeavormac> how can i view and/or modify the dns servers my linux box is using from a terminal?
[07:12] <Arc> intuos_pen: on the mac, apparently, the bootloader isnt all it the hard disk.
[07:12] <eobanb_> daveCB, does this look like a windows support channel to you? cifs is just windows file sharing, aka SMB.
[07:13] <PPJJ> nv=nvidia in xorg drivers right?
[07:13] <eobanb_> PPJJ, the open source ones, yes.
[07:13] <daveCB> ohhhh
[07:13] <daveCB> i see
[07:13] <Arc> i have no problem with linux installing something to the flash bootrom for a bootloader, the problem comes in when i can't undo it.
[07:14] <det> Is it possible to setup a lvm2 on (Linux software) Raid 5 using the ubuntu installer?
[07:14] <skwid_> how can i install profont ???
[07:14] <intuos_pen> Arc: i'm quite sure that your Mac or your OSX installer has a way to initialize your hardisk so you can install OSX on it. you just don't know how to do it. but thats not ubuntu's fault.
[07:14] <eobanb_> intuos_pen, we've already covered this.
[07:14] <Arc> intuos_pen: it can't if I can't get into the installer.
[07:15] <eobanb_> intuos_pen, it seems his mac os x disc is panicking when it boots, and resetting the NVRAM also seems to default to yaboot
[07:15] <det> skwid_, I suspect that using multiple question marks makes people more unwilling to spend their time to help you.
[07:15] <mediated> Hello again everyone....  I'm using firestarter.  I'm trying to share my ath0 over my eth0.  It says my eth0 device is "not ready".  How do i make my device ready?
[07:15] <Arc> I'm about 5 minutes away from launching an advisory on the ithaca free software association website warning Mac users from using the PPC ubuntu discs we've been handing out for months
[07:15] <skwid_> det: hum.. that's just the way i type, not really an incentive to anything
[07:16] <eobanb_> Arc, please, i'm still researching your issue
[07:16] <Arc> I've worked with Gentoo on macosx for years, I've never had this problem.
[07:16] <intuos_pen> Arc: and you're just 5 minutes away from making yourself look like an idiot who should not be allowed anywhere near a computer.
[07:16] <jmg> guys when i go to add a printer into cups it prompts me for a username and password, but my password doesnt work.
[07:16] <jmg> any ideas?
[07:16] <eobanb_> Arc, you didnt even know what the command key was before i told you..
[07:16] <cfedde> jmg: roots
[07:16] <jmg> cfedde: huh?
[07:16] <nickrud> !cupsweb
[07:16] <ubotu> To enable the administration functions of the cups web interface - "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart"
[07:17] <mediated> Can anyone help me out for just a minute?
[07:17] <Arc> eobanb_: the "command" key isn't called such under linux
[07:17] <nickrud> jmg, that ubuntu thing above was for you
[07:17] <eobanb_> Arc, it's not called anything on linux because it's not used by linux.  it is therefore called the command key
[07:17] <Arc> im installing this system so I have a PPC testbed linux/macosx workstation and for packaging free software for those distros
[07:18] <cfedde> jmg: if you are doing it from the command line then you'll need to use sudo.  If doing it from the gui it'll prompt you.
[07:18] <eobanb_> Arc, can you still boot into ubuntu?
[07:18] <Arc> eobanb_: I believe so.
[07:19] <eobanb_> Arc, well do find that out, because that could be helpful
[07:19] <mediated> Goddamn it.  Everybody would rather argue than help,,,  This is why people don't switch...
[07:19] <mediated> Linux is hard sometimes...
[07:19] <eobanb_> !patience
[07:19] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[07:20] <nickrud> the hardest part of helping is figuring out where the person you are helping is at
[07:20] <brettzilla> hello
[07:20] <intuos_pen> mediated: anyone would argue if you're blaming a thing you don't understand.
[07:20] <eobanb_> Arc, if you have a firewire drive around (or if you have another mac around) you might try booting from that
[07:21] <mediated> well I'm just a little bitter reading about this macosx argument.
[07:21] <eobanb_> Arc, you might also try booting from ubuntu install media and seeing if you can re-partition that way
[07:21] <brettzilla> i have a question. I recently bought a widescreen monitor, and now, i cannot set my resolution to the native widescreen reso...
[07:21] <mediated> Yeah I'm new, that's why I came here, for help.
[07:21] <jmg> Thanks ubotu, that hosed cups
[07:21] <mediated> I don't pretend to know.
[07:21] <Arc> eobanb_: how would repartitioning help me? i cant get the os 10.3 CDs to boot anymore
[07:21] <metatag> mediated: is your eth0 connected?
[07:21] <eobanb_> Arc, re-partitioning should remove yaboot
[07:21] <mediated> yup
[07:22] <Arc> o.O
[07:22] <Arc> how would repartitioning cause the bootloader on the flash to not work
[07:22] <Arc> ok ubuntu is up
[07:22] <eobanb_> Arc, you have to understand that yaboot isn't in some BIOS somewhere, it has its own miniature partition on the hard drive
[07:22] <nickrud> brettzilla, have you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yet? (that should set up your monitor correctly, unless it's really offbeat)
[07:22] <brettzilla> is there a way to redetect my monitor? xorg.conf still shows my old monitor......
[07:22] <brettzilla> not yet
[07:22] <brettzilla> thanks for the suggestion
[07:22] <brettzilla> :)
[07:23] <eobanb_> brettzilla, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:23] <brettzilla> should i just breeze through this, and have it auto detect everything?
[07:23] <eobanb_> brettzilla, i'd look at the settings carefully.
[07:23] <wizard1> intuos_pen, whats the best way for my use of a retail setup
[07:23] <brettzilla> okay. thanks
[07:23] <eobanb_> brettzilla, especially if you want a certain resolution
[07:24] <core__> if anyone can help me or daveCB  i would be much gratefull because its like 6 am and im starting to feel a little annoyed with everything cuz im stuffed in my cpu all night trying to figure out how to share internet connection based on ubunto for windows xp.a link with a simple explanation but reliable would suit very well
[07:24] <gabo> hello
[07:24] <eobanb_> core__, you have two computers, and are trying to share an internet connection between both?
[07:24] <pppjjjj> ok that didnt work, going to install again with just the pcie card in
[07:24] <core__> yes
[07:24] <skwid_> can anyone help me install a .pcf font ?
[07:24] <eobanb_> core__, do you have two network cards on either of the computers?
[07:25] <core__> yes
[07:25] <metatag> mediated: is your eth0 configured properly?
[07:25] <Arc> i did a mac-fdisk -l
[07:25] <daveCB> 6 am = coffe time
[07:25] <Arc> it shows me hda and hdc
[07:25] <daveCB> brb
[07:25] <Arc> hda has 10 partitions including a 646meg HFS partition?
[07:25] <Arc> and linux appears installed on hdc
[07:25] <mediated> metatag:  Yes.  I have a hub with my mac connected, and I share my mac's wifi over ethernet all the time to this computer.
[07:26] <eobanb_> core__, try this
[07:26] <eobanb_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[07:26] <gabo> does anyone know a program similar to deep freeze for Ubuntu?
[07:26] <core__> will do eobanb ,thanks
[07:26] <bjron> gabo: what's deep freeze do?
[07:26] <eobanb_> gabo, i dont know what deep freeze is
[07:26] <gabo> ok
[07:27] <gabo> it restores the changes in your hard drives
[07:27] <gabo> any time you restart your OS
[07:27] <eobanb_> to an earlier period in time?
[07:27] <gabo> yes
[07:27] <Flannel> ah, so, you make an image, and then boot to that image
[07:27] <gabo> it Freezes de partition
[07:27] <gabo> no
[07:27] <eobanb_> gabo, well, there's the liveCD :)
[07:27] <gabo> it does it automatically
[07:27] <gabo> hahaha
[07:27] <gabo> no
[07:27] <gabo> because you can disable it
[07:27] <gabo> make changes
[07:27] <Flannel> gabo: right, but thats what the gist of it is.
[07:28] <gabo> and freeze it again
[07:28] <bjron> gabo, this is so you can muck around, and then when you break stuff, easily go back to where it worked?
[07:28] <gabo> exactly
[07:28] <Flannel> gabo: I cant help feeling that it isn't required for linux.
[07:28] <eobanb_> gabo, yeah, i dont know of anything like that, but i'm sure there's something like that out there, so i'd keep looking
[07:29] <gabo> isnt it?
[07:29] <eobanb_> gabo, why would it be
[07:29] <gabo> it is my first day with ubuntu
[07:29] <core__> eobanb,  i tryed that already but it seems not work,windows xp tells me that they are connected but they dont share any internet connection...at least when i try to open a wwebpage doesnt show any activity
[07:29] <bjron> seems like it could be mighty useful for tweaking
[07:29] <nanotube_> gabo, that's why there is root privilege separation - you cant really do anything to your system files until you enter root password. that's equivalent to "unlocking, making changes, then locking again" :)
[07:29] <Flannel> gabo: well, regular users cant edit system files
[07:29] <gabo> ah
[07:29] <gabo> well
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> bjron: with a journaling file system, you can just replay the journal, or with a volume manager, you can take snapshots.
[07:29] <Flannel> but, if you wanted to screw around with important files, back them up to a tar gz and then you can extract them later if need be
[07:29] <mediated> metatag: are you recieving my /msg's?
[07:29] <eobanb_> core__, can you ping the ubuntu box from the windows box?
[07:30] <gabo> and what if i change someting as root and i want to fix it
[07:30] <drumline_> I prefer the old style priv sepparation...
[07:30] <metatag> nope
[07:30] <bjron> fyrestrtr, that's probably what he's looking for then :)
[07:30] <gabo> and of course, as i am a newbie i wouldnt have any idea how to solve it
[07:30] <drumline_> thankfully, it's possible to override the sudo stuff..
[07:30] <eobanb_> mediated, i believe you need to register your nick to send private messages on freenode right now
[07:30] <nanotube_> gabo: well, then you can be screwed pretty badly. :)
[07:30] <mediated> oh
[07:30] <mediated> "My interface eth0 is active"
[07:31] <Flannel> gabo: thats why I said to backup your essentials, and then you can just extract them later if need be
[07:31] <gabo> yes it seems the solution
[07:31] <gabo> but...
[07:31] <gabo> what do you mean with "essentials"
[07:31] <nanotube_> hmm, that deep freeze program seems like it would have its uses, though... i wonder if there is something like that. :)
[07:31] <eobanb_> gabo, just about the only things you can screw up that truly require a re-install (or at least a rescue disc) are the sudoers file and grub
[07:32] <Flannel> heh, everything that isn't /home  maybe /var as well.
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> eobanb_: not really ;)
[07:32] <metatag> mediated: did you enable dhcp ?
[07:32] <mediated> eobanb_:  I didn't notice those messages for quite a while...
[07:32] <eobanb_> sure, fyrestrtr.  everything else can basically be fixed from the recovery console
[07:32] <mediated> yup
[07:32] <hegemon> can I have multiple clocks set at different time zones?
[07:32] <nanotube_> eobanb, sudoers is easy to fix up - just boot into singleuser mode, and edit it to your heart's content. grub can be more of a pain - would require booting from a livecd. but either way, no requirement to reinstall.
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> hegemon: no, the system clock can only be set to one timezone.
[07:32] <eobanb_> hegemon, multiple clocks...?
[07:32] <gabo> ok thank you
[07:32] <hegemon> darn it
[07:32] <jmg> wow
[07:33] <metatag> mediated: why don't you try static ip addresses?
[07:33] <jmg> awesome
[07:33] <jmg> sane worked
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> hegemon: you can find an applet for gnome that can show you different time zones.
[07:33] <eobanb_> good to hear it, jmg
[07:33] <Arc> grr its too late to be still working on this
[07:33] <hegemon> yeah
[07:33] <nanotube_> hegemon, there might be some program somewhere that can display the time in different cities around the globe, or something. is that what you are looking for?
[07:33] <Arc> eobanb_: thanks for trying to help
[07:33] <Flannel> hegemon: sure.  in fact, I think theres a 'world clock' package or something
[07:33] <hegemon> thats what mean
[07:33] <eobanb_> good luck, Arc
[07:33] <hegemon> great!
[07:33] <firebird318> Could someone help me with a APT Preferences file. I was here in the channel last night and had help for how to create one and what to put in it, etc., but that did not solve my problem of when trying to install certain packages, it saying one version is required, but another (older) version will be installed. I think the problem has to do with the line Pin: release a=sarge-backports. I...
[07:33] <firebird318> ...don't think I have that repo, but I don't know that thats the problem.
[07:33] <metatag> mediated: if you have 2 computers you probably don't need dhcp
[07:33] <mediated> I'll try it
[07:34] <eobanb_> firebird318, what were you trying to install
[07:34] <nickrud> firebird318, sare-backports?
[07:34] <mediated> Same error message
[07:34] <nickrud> sarge?
[07:34] <metatag> mediated : http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-list/2005-March/msg02004.html
[07:34] <eobanb_> nickrud, i get the feeling firebird318 was messing with debian's repositories
[07:34] <eobanb_> which is a baaad idea
[07:35] <mediated> Adding Firestarter startup hook to /etc/dhclient-exit-hooks
[07:35] <mediated> Internal network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..
[07:35] <nickrud> very,
[07:35] <eobanb_> firebird318, can you give us more background please
[07:35] <firebird318> eobanb: I get that, for example when trying to install mythtv. I got the sarge-backports from the person that tried to help me last night. I just used what he had, and I didn't think to ask if I had to change that to suit my repo list.
[07:35] <nickrud> !mythtv
[07:35] <ubotu> methinks mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[07:35] <eobanb_> firebird318, adding repositories for mythtv is totally unnecessary
[07:36] <hegemon> gworldclock
[07:36] <eobanb_> firebird318, just install myth from ubuntu's own repositories
[07:36] <firebird318> eobanb: I am only trying to install mythtv from Synaptic, I am not adding repos for anything.
[07:36] <hegemon> gnome stock ticker is slow
[07:37] <eobanb_> firebird318, okay, so apt-get install mythtv....and then what?
[07:37] <ericmoritz\0> hi, I just upgraded to dapper.  I'm playing with the network-manager app.  Is the NetworkManager daemon supposed to start at boot or something?
[07:37] <ubuntu> hello
[07:37] <eobanb_> ericmoritz\0, ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:37] <eobanb_> welcome, ubuntu
[07:37] <nanotube_> ericmoritz\0, it does on breezy
[07:37] <ubuntu> how to play divx in ubuntu?
[07:38] <nanotube_> !divx
[07:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:38] <eobanb_> !tell ubuntu about restricted
[07:38] <ericmoritz\0> eobanb_: thanks, didn't know about that channel
[07:38] <metatag> mediated: bastille is quite good also.. why don't you give it a shot?
[07:38] <ubuntu> i tried totern movie player, it doesnt work
[07:38] <daveCB> how do i install lircd on ubuntu
[07:38] <daveCB> ?
[07:38] <firebird318> eobanb: I find the package in Synaptic and then mark it for installation and then it gives me messages saying that it depends on a certain package and version, but it will install the same package but with an older version than what is required.
[07:38] <eobanb_> ubuntu, please read the link ubotu sent you
[07:39] <eobanb_> !info lircd
[07:39] <nickrud> ubuntu, that restricted page explains much
[07:39] <eobanb_> daveCB, slowly and painfully?
[07:39] <daveCB> na
[07:39] <eobanb_> :)
[07:39] <daveCB> fast and dirty
[07:39] <dick-richardson_> where are the default breezy wallpapers stored?
[07:39] <skon> if i kill BitTorrent and then restart, will it take off where it left off with the partially downloaded file?
[07:39] <mediated> metatag: thanks for the link.  I'm going to read up on some of the details.  I appreciate the help everyone.
[07:39] <Flannel> skon: sort of.  For all intents and purposes, yes.
[07:39] <eobanb_> oh, it's called lirc
[07:40] <eobanb_> daveCB, just sudo apt-get install lirc
[07:40] <daveCB> ahhhh
[07:40] <daveCB> tks
[07:40] <lampshade> is there a way to always have my location bar visible in Nautulus
[07:40] <eobanb_> er, daveCB, enable universe first.
[07:40] <skon> Flannel: so it won't start all over again eg record over the top
[07:40] <nickrud> dick-richardson_, /usr/share/backgrounds
[07:40] <eobanb_> !tell daveCB about universe
[07:40] <daveCB> how?
[07:40] <daveCB> =x
[07:40] <Flannel> skon: nope.  thats how bittorrent works.  Actually right nwo youre downloading it in pieces anyway.
[07:40] <nanotube_> skon, yea, it will basically resume where it left off. it will not start all over again from the beginning. that's the whole point of bittorrent, after all.
[07:40] <dick-richardson_> nickrud: thank you!
[07:41] <skon> Flannel: okay thanks
[07:41] <hegaggle> what time do the markets open?
[07:41] <metatag> mediated: no problem
[07:41] <nickrud> dick-richardson_, um, maybe not. I've got old stuff there
[07:41] <Flannel> skon: the part that doen't REALLY pick up 'right where' you left off, is that if youre halfway through a piece, then it won't pick up with that piece.
[07:41] <eobanb_> hegaggle, what?
[07:41] <nanotube_> hegaggle, which markets?
[07:41] <hegaggle> im dumb, the stock markets
[07:41] <nanotube_> hegaggle, if you are talking about the us stock market, its 9 am est, afaik.
[07:41] <dick-richardson_> nickrud: that's where mine are :)
[07:41] <firebird318> dick-richardson_: Hi,  I believe you were the one who helped me last night with making a preferences file. I used your line of Pin: release a=sarge-backports but didn't think to ask if I had to change that line to suit my repository list. My problem is not solved, do you have any suggestions on what I should put instead of sarge-backports.
[07:41] <eobanb_> hegaggle, what does this have to do with ubuntu
[07:42] <skon> oh
[07:42] <Flannel> eobanb_: he was playing with the stock tickers
[07:42] <hegaggle> my bad i forgot to change channels
[07:42] <hegaggle> sorry
[07:42] <Guest> ok, apparently breezy badger has no interest in running on my new pc
[07:42] <passbe> does anyone know how to let a proftpd user to delete files and directories ?
[07:42] <eobanb_> pppjjj, if you have a particular question, we can help you
[07:42] <dick-richardson_> firebird318: you'll need to put teh repository that has the newer version of whatever software you're trying to install
[07:42] <pppjjj> eobanb; im the guy witht he xorg problems
[07:42] <eobanb_> pppjjj == PPJJ?
[07:42] <pppjjj> yeah i have to use my work laptop, so no irc
[07:43] <pppjjj> using a java client
[07:43] <hegaggle> I cant wait for the Upcoming release.
[07:43] <skon> i started BitTorrent remotely with Nxclient. Now i am back home and can't find the dialogue window although it is still running
[07:43] <nanotube_> passbe, well, there is a config file for proftpd somewhere, where you can set the permissions
[07:43] <Flannel> lampshade: there is a way.  I dont know it though (dont use gnome).  Poke around.  Its in there somewhere.
[07:43] <firebird318> dick-richardson: How do I find out which repo has the newer version. Synaptic doesn't tell me.
[07:43] <Flannel> skon: you need screen!
[07:43] <nanotube_> passbe, /etc/proftpd.conf most likely
[07:43] <skon> yeah that is what i used
[07:43] <passbe> nanotube_: yas im in that file, except everytime i make DELE set to allow it never works
[07:43] <Flannel> oh, so... reattach to it.
[07:43] <pppjjj> eobanb; i removed the extra vga card ubuntu was using in xorg.. set everything to my nvidia.. not working. reinstaled ubuntu with only the nvidia
[07:43] <made> I'm sorry I have to come here and ask stupid questions but I'm so frustrated with how hard it is to install crossover office
[07:43] <lampshade> Flannel, I'd like to think that, but for the life of me I can't find it.  I can get it temporarily with ctrl+L  but I checked through prefs and didn't see anything unless I have to edit a conf file to do it?
[07:43] <skon> i did but still no dialog window
[07:44] <pppjjj> same deal.. it shows the login screen a few times, lets me login, soon as i do that it tells me the xorg is not setup correctly and wants me to set it up
[07:44] <drumline_> made: what's hard about it?  I haven't ever tried it.
[07:44] <nickrud> firebird318, apt-cache policy shows you what repo has what package version
[07:44] <made> I have the file in my home dir "su install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.1.sh"
[07:44] <drumline_> made: sudo, not su
[07:44] <skon> i will kill and restart > thanks though
[07:44] <eobanb_> made, crossover office is a commercial product that comes with tech support, so i'd consult them, not us
[07:44] <lampshade> pppjjj, when it errors out like that, do you have the chance to see the full output?  A lot of time the clue is there.  Any option to view the full xorg output?
[07:45] <drumline_> made: "sudo ./install-crossover-....
[07:45] <firebird318> nickrud: ok, so then I go by that and then put that repo in the Preferences list.
[07:45] <pppjjj> yeah it lets me view all that ill look again, nothing looked obviously bad
[07:45] <nickrud> firebird318, pinning?
[07:45] <lampshade> pppjjj,  well what line did it say it had an error on or what was the error
[07:45] <eobanb_> pppjjj, look for lines that say EE
[07:45] <lampshade> line number won't help me lol when I think of it
[07:45] <hegaggle> on this stock ticker when adding symbols is the ^ required  ?
[07:45] <pppjjj> EE..gotcha
[07:45] <made> command not found
[07:46] <pppjjj> booting now
[07:46] <eobanb_> made, you have to type the whole name of the shell script
[07:46] <pppjjj> it flicks the login screen a few times
[07:46] <nanotube_> passbe, well, i do not run proftpd myself, but if you install the proftpd-doc package, it should install some documentation for proftpd, and then you should look around and it will tell you how to properly enable the stuff you want.
[07:46] <lampshade> made, make sure to chmod a+x thefile.sh here too so that it is executable
[07:46] <firebird318> nickrud: what is pinning?
[07:46] <hegaggle> nevermind
[07:46] <made> <-- newb
[07:46] <pppjjj> so are half of us :)
[07:46] <lampshade> that's cool I was too 6 months ago and am still noob
[07:47] <pppjjj> well, at least you and i
[07:47] <nickrud> firebird318, that's the general idea, but pinning by exact version is better (pinning is what a preferences file is for, see man apt_preferences for the gritty details)
[07:47] <lampshade> I'm in here everyday almost whining.
[07:47] <made> hehe
[07:47] <eobanb_> made, sudo sh ~/install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.1.sh
[07:47] <pppjjj> lampshade; well, if it worked perfectly we'd always be noobs
[07:47] <pppjjj> its good that we have to fix it
[07:47] <firebird318> nickrud: Ok.
[07:48] <firebird318> I will try that and see if it solves my problem. Thanks everyone.
[07:48] <nseltzer> Hey all
[07:48] <eobanb_> welcome, nseltzer
[07:48] <made> '$HOME' must exist and belong to you in order for the installation to proceed. You may need to log in as root or use su rather than sudo.
[07:48] <nseltzer> i need someone to help me...
[07:49] <nseltzer> i need like somone to den00b me
[07:49] <made> I thought I was logged into root
[07:49] <pppjjj> eobanb; in report 1 all i see is a few "no symbols found" and fatal server error : no screens found
[07:49] <eobanb_> made, just do sudo -i, and then sh ./whatever.sh
[07:49] <lampshade> made, ahh  interesting.  no, you were using sudo, which is kinda like being root just for that command
[07:49] <drumline_> nseltzer: with what?
[07:49] <nanotube_> pppjjj, have you tried changing 'Device "nvidia"' to 'Device "vesa"' in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, to see if that will make the your xorg work?
[07:49] <nickrud> firebird318, if you search that manpage for 'version 5.8' there's a stanza you can probably adapt pretty easily
[07:49] <nseltzer> drumline_, installing stuff... running apps.... everything
[07:50] <firebird318> nickrud: Ok, I will check that manpage out. Thank You
[07:50] <pppjjj> this 2nd report is a bunch of memory hoopla
[07:50] <pppjjj> nanotube_; er, no, i guess ill try taht
[07:50] <lampshade> nseltzer, installing stuff mainly comes from the add package program.  Packages are downloaded from repos around the world and installed at your will.  this is how you will mainly install programs.  (I'm assuming you are really new and these were things I didn't know when I started)
[07:50] <nanotube_> pppjjj, the "vesa" device is like the failsafe lowest-common-denominator video device. it doesnt have 3d accel or anything, but it has the highest chance of actually working. :)
[07:50] <pppjjj> whats the xserv reconfigu command? sudo reconfigure xserv-xorg ?
[07:50] <made> no such file or directory
[07:50] <AlmtyBob> goddamnit, I just died from lack of food in angband 8(
[07:50] <nickrud> firebird318, I don't like pointing people at man pages, but what you're doing requires it :)
[07:51] <Misnix> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg pppjjj
[07:51] <pppjjj> DANKE
[07:51] <pppjjj> oops
[07:51] <nseltzer> lampshade, Ok, I'm still very new, and I am trying to install this driver for a wireless card.
[07:51] <pppjjj> laptops annoy me so much
[07:52] <nseltzer> lampshade, Do i use the package installer for that
[07:52] <Anon1782> hi all. i have a ipw2200 wireless card and i'm trying to connect onto a netgear wgt624 router that's set on "108mbps only" mode... is there any way for me to connect?
[07:52] <made> I don't get it. I was able to compile my own gentoo kernel and use it completely install anything I want.. I come to ubuntu.. I and I don't know jack squat
[07:52] <Misnix> pppjjj, trade one for a pentium 90 desktop? ;-P
[07:52] <pppjjj> not that badly
[07:52] <firebird318> nickrud:  I don't mind reading man pages, but there is a lot of them. But if I am directed to the right one I don't mind reading it and learning and solving a problem myself. Thanks for the help. :-)
[07:52] <nanotube_> Anon1782, well, i have the ipw2200 card too - and it only does 54mbps. so if you have your router to 108-only mode, then my guess is that there is no way you can make it work.
[07:52] <lampshade> Anon1782, ummm don't think so....    I'm pretty sure the ipw2200 can only go to 54,
[07:53] <pppjjj> but the stupid mouse/keyboard leayouts and quick buttons annoy
[07:53] <drumline_> made: slightly different way of doing it.   Ubuntu is one of the 2001 flavors.  :)
[07:53] <made> but but but.. there are things I like about ubuntu that gentoo doesn't offer
[07:53] <nickrud> made, read !components to start
[07:53] <Anon1782> alright, I didn't knokw. I guess I should've looked for specs before asking questions
[07:53] <nickrud> !components
[07:53] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[07:53] <pppjjj> ok how do i START xorg?
[07:53] <lampshade> unless the 108 wasn't a true 108 and was merely software based on windows, I've seen stuff like that done with compression
[07:53] <pppjjj> from a commandline
[07:53] <nanotube_> pppjjj, how about trading one for a p2 300 desktop? :)
[07:53] <me2win> pppjjj: startx
[07:53] <Misnix> laptop kb's bah bah bah
[07:53] <lampshade> pppjjj, /etc/init.d/gdm restart is what I prefer
[07:53] <Anon1782> I'll tell them to change their settings for me :p thanks all
[07:53] <pppjjj> omg i can see
[07:53] <nanotube_> Anon1782, good luck. :)
[07:53] <pppjjj> $2 goes to nanotube
[07:53] <nanotube_> pppjjj, w00t! :)
[07:54] <lampshade> pppjjj, is it an old nvidia card?
[07:54] <pppjjj> hell no
[07:54] <pppjjj> 7900
[07:54] <pppjjj> brand new
[07:54] <lampshade> oh nm
[07:54] <pppjjj> dual core opty..etc. etc.
[07:54] <pppjjj> i always have more problems with new hardware
[07:54] <pppjjj> but it keeps me on the edge
[07:54] <lampshade> I once had a problem where mine wouldn't take the nvidia drivers because it became too old and I had to switch to the legacy drivers
[07:54] <pppjjj> hm
[07:54] <pppjjj> legacy..ugh
[07:55] <lampshade> but that was an old card like 16mb Nvidia card
[07:55] <lampshade> that's why I ask
[07:55] <pppjjj> brb plugging my network in
[07:56] <_johan> backends of printer "cups" giving error what is happened :|
[07:57] <Patrick_> HEY GUYS.
[07:57] <Patrick_> HOW'S IT GOING THIS MORNING?
[07:57] <mikej_> she bangs!
[07:57] <Patrick_> SHE SURE DOES BANG.
[07:57] <nickrud> !caps
[07:57] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[07:57] <Patrick_> WHAT?
[07:57] <Patrick_> OH, SORRY.
[07:57] <nickrud> :)
[07:57] <Patrick_> I DIDN'T NOTICE :)
[07:57] <Patrick_> OKAY, I'LL TURN THEM OFF.
[07:57] <Patrick_> RIGHT NOW.
[07:57] <Patrick_> :)
[07:58] <made> sh ./install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.1.sh
[07:58] <made> doesn't do anything
[07:58] <pppjjjj> i dont understand how SATA chooses a primary/slave
[07:58] <me2win> pppjjj: it doesnt
[07:58] <made> No such file or directory
[07:58] <pppjjjj> exactly
[07:58] <Patrick_> I'm a slave.
[07:58] <me2win> pppjjj: it works like a USB device
[07:58] <nickrud> made, maybe #crossover can help
[07:58] <_johan> :P
[07:59] <pppjjjj> but it keeps trying to make my D: the bootdisc
[07:59] <me2win> hot pluggable, all master pretty much
[07:59] <pppjjjj> i end up ahving to disconnect it
[07:59] <Patrick_> Does anyone in here have an Intel iMac?
[07:59] <pppjjjj> install everything on c, then connect
[07:59] <pppjjjj> is that how its supposed to work?
[07:59] <_johan> C= winblows
[07:59] <me2win> windows ftw
[07:59] <Patrick_> HAha
[07:59] <Patrick_> Mac wools.
[07:59] <made> #crossover?
[07:59] <Patrick_> My Mac Wools.
[08:00] <nickrud> made, /join #crossover, there's 28 people there :)
[08:00] <made> ahh
[08:00] <pppjjjj> whats an MiB?
[08:00] <_johan> my cups printer is refusing :| :-)
[08:00] <pppjjjj> is that a MB?
[08:00] <Patrick_> I just joined crossover.
[08:00] <AlmtyBob> heh I got that Beginning Ubuntu books.  It's 90% open source MS hating evangelism and 10% content
[08:00] <Patrick_> I have a Macbook Pwo.
[08:00] <made> thank you
[08:01] <Patrick_> Anytime.
[08:01] <Patrick_> Baby.
[08:01] <dli> _johan, edit your acl in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[08:01] <nickrud> pppjjj, MiB = 1000 kilobytes, MB = 1024 kilobytes I think
[08:01] <skwid_> can anyone help me install a pcf font ??
[08:01] <pppjjjj> ah
[08:01] <Patrick_> Oh, baby.
[08:01] <Patrick_> That sounds hot.
[08:01] <azathoth> how can i change my network card to use dmfe instead of tulip?
[08:01] <Patrick_> Does it make it hot for you?
[08:01] <dli> nickrud, is MiB 1000 kilo or just 1,000,000 bytes?
[08:01] <_johan> I will try but it answers backend isn't there
[08:01] <Patrick_> It's hot.
[08:02] <bbrazil> dli: 1024 * 1024
[08:02] <nickrud> dli, as I typed, I got less certain about that.
[08:02] <tla> hi everybody, how can a put a desktop into standby mode with ubuntu?
[08:02] <Patrick_> I have a huge nutsack.
[08:02] <pppjjjj> what's that program that installs all of the important/entertainment stuff in ubuntu
[08:02] <made> nickrud: thx anyways guess I'm sol without an answer from anybody... bbl
[08:02] <pppjjjj> Patrick; dog cat run run.
[08:02] <Patrick_> Huh?
[08:03] <me2win> pppjjj: automatix?
[08:03] <Patrick_> I have a huge nutsack.
[08:03] <Patrick_> That is all.
[08:03] <bbrazil> pppjjjj: easyubuntu
[08:03] <pppjjjj> me2; bingo
[08:03] <nickrud> made, then i'd suggest adding sudo to the front of that sh <etc> command
[08:03] <bbrazil> pppjjjj: don't touch automatix
[08:03] <_johan> I have kubuntu dapper beta II installed for my notebook and standby mode is working good
[08:03] <dli> tla, system -> preferences -> screensaver
[08:03] <pppjjjj> bbrazil, why? ive heard tons about it
[08:03] <pppjjjj> what's better about easy?
[08:03] <bbrazil> pppjjjj: I've heard tons too, all about how it corrupts your system
[08:04] <nickrud> pppjjj, for a lot of people it works well, it's supposed to be designed to fail gracefully
[08:04] <tla> dli: will it put the computer in standy or only the monitor?
[08:04] <made> nickrud: it still tells me that I need to use su rather than sudo.. and that I need to log in as root, blah blah blah
[08:05] <nickrud> made, then try sudo -i , then run the sh command (I've never installed crossover, mind you)
[08:05] <made> thx
[08:05] <nanotube_> pppjjjj, easyubuntu presumably is more safe to use than automatix... but since i havent used either, i can't really make a strong recommendation. :)
[08:05] <Patrick_> Hey.
[08:05] <pppjjjj> same features?
[08:06] <Patrick_> Did I mention that my nutsack is huge as hell?
[08:06] <nickrud> !ops
[08:06] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:06] <pppjjjj> can someone boot the bot
[08:06] <made> but when do sudo -i, it tells me.. no such file or directory exists after loging in to root..
[08:06] <Patrick_> I'm not a bot.
[08:06] <pppjjjj> bot
[08:06] <Patrick_> Hey, that rhymed.
[08:06] <Patrick_> Whoa.
[08:06] <pppjjjj> bot
[08:06] <nanotube_> Paavo, that's what they all say.
[08:06] <Patrick_> Deep.
[08:06] <pppjjjj> anyway.
[08:06] <azathoth> anyone know how i change my network card driver?
[08:06] <Patrick_> Christ, I'm not a bot.
[08:06] <Patrick_> What the hell is wrong with you?
[08:06] <pppjjjj> yeah, you just type at 900wpm.
[08:06] <Patrick_> Not quite, douchebag.
[08:07] <nickrud> Patrick_, you're wasting our time, thank you
[08:07] <Patrick_> Not really plausible, if you think about it.
[08:07] <pppjjjj> then quit being annoying if you aren't one
[08:07] <Patrick_> And you should quit being stupid.
[08:07] <me2win> lol
[08:07] <nanotube_> you can prove that you are not a bot by never mentioning your nutsack again. :)
[08:07] <tla> can ubuntu put the computer in standby mode similar to windows standby?
[08:07] <nanotube_> tla, yes it can...
[08:07] <_johan> yes it can
[08:08] <benplaut> tla: yup... it's called 'suspend to disk', or just 'suspend'
[08:08] <benplaut> dunno much more about it :P
[08:08] <Patrick_> Okay, I won't make mention of my nutsack again.
[08:08] <nanotube_> benplaut, suspend to disk is 'hibernate', suspend to memory is "suspend"
[08:08] <benplaut> ooops
[08:08] <benplaut> you're right
[08:08] <tla> nanotube_: and how do I do it?
[08:09] <Patrick_> Tla, we don't want to hear about your nutsack.
[08:09] <nanotube_> well, if you choose system>logout from the menu, there will be a bunch of options, one of them is "suspend the computer"
[08:09] <Patrick_> Okay?
[08:09] <benplaut> !ops
[08:09] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:09] <Patrick_> Hey ubotu.
[08:09] <nanotube_> tla, but if you have not tried it before, then just in case save all your docs, cuz it may not work properly. :)
[08:09] <Patrick_> Thanks, nanotube.
[08:09] <Patrick_> Nanotube, may I ask you a question?
[08:10] <blaze> why when i type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" i get "E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[08:10] <blaze> "
[08:10] <blaze> ?
[08:10] <tla> nanotube_: I have only hibernate and no suspend there. any idea why?
[08:10] <nanotube_> Patrick_, give it a shot. but i'd appreciate it if it was not silly. :)
[08:10] <benplaut> !acpi
[08:10] <ubotu> benplaut: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:10] <nickrud> blaze, did you enable the multiverse repositoyr?
[08:10] <benplaut> damn
[08:10] <harisund> Could someone explain what a 'patch' means, and how I can go about writing one? (as in what language, what does it do ..etc?)
[08:10] <nanotube_> tla, aha, i see. well, then first you have to edit a configuration file
[08:10] <nanotube_> tla, hold on, let me see here...
[08:10] <made> hibernate is suspend
[08:10] <blaze> no.. what is that?
[08:11] <Patrick_> Okay.
[08:11] <blaze> and how to enable it? =)
[08:11] <Patrick_> Nanotube, are you a girl?
[08:11] <nickrud> harisund, a patch is the difference between the pristine source and your changes to that source
[08:11] <bbrazil> harisund: use 'diff' to produce patches
[08:11] <benplaut> harisund: a patch says what file to edit, what line to look for, and what the change that line to... i don't know about creating one
[08:11] <HIGH-FREQ> anyone got a wpc54g  wireless pcmcia card working w/o ndiswrapper?
[08:11] <benplaut> made: no it isn't...
[08:11] <Patrick_> Husband?
[08:11] <made> then what is the diff?
[08:11] <Patrick_> Hey, I have a huge dong.
[08:11] <benplaut> suspend still uses the RAM, hibernate writes the ram to the harddrive
[08:11] <sstchur> ANyone know what it means when I get "big/little test failed" when I try to run ./configure for qemu accelerator?
[08:11] <made> ohh
[08:11] <benplaut> !ops
[08:11] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:11] <benplaut> !!!
[08:11] <ubotu> benplaut: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:11] <blaze> ok, i saw the help. i'll read it, 10x
[08:12] <Patrick_> Yo !ops
[08:12] <nanotube_> tla, aha, read this: http://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Chronicles#Suspend_to_memory
[08:12] <Patrick_> Kick this loser out already.
[08:12] <Patrick_> Ding-dong!
[08:12] <Patrick_> Kick made and ben out.
[08:12] <harisund> nickrud, bbrazil and benplaut -- thanks for that info.
[08:12] <Patrick_> They're disrupting the flow of our constructive discussion.
[08:12] <Patrick_> Harisund, no problem.
[08:12] <nanotube_> Patrick_, no, i'm not a girl. what made you think i was?
[08:12] <benplaut> yes, go ahead and kick made and ben out >_>
[08:12] <harisund> why were the ops being called?
[08:12] <Patrick_> My dong was the savior.
[08:13] <made> wtf did I do
[08:13] <Patrick_> Your attitude, nano.
[08:13] <HIGH-FREQ> anyone got a wpc54g  wireless pcmcia card working w/o ndiswrapper?
[08:13] <benplaut> harisund: it's Patrick_
[08:13] <aftertaf> you can take it to offtopic..
[08:13] <Patrick_> You're so cheery.
[08:13] <Patrick_> What's Patrick?
[08:13] <btrento> has anyone got gEDA working
[08:13] <made> I'm trying to get help from a help channel and Patrick_ is talking about his f**king nutsack
[08:13] <benplaut> made: nothing, Patrick_ is just trying to confuse them
[08:13] <nickrud> harisund, because of a person who's wasting my screen real estate
[08:13] <Patrick_> Who said what now?
[08:13] <harisund> btrento I have been trying to get some spice working on Ubuntu myself :)
[08:13] <aftertaf> Patrick_: take it to offtopic
[08:13] <Patrick_> I'm not talking about my nutsack.
[08:13] <Patrick_> I left that topic over 10 minutes ago.
[08:14] <benplaut> nickrud: aren't you an op?
[08:14] <harisund> btrento I believe there are some schematic editors but I couldn't get a Spice implementation to work
[08:14] <blaze> should i enable "Main restricted universe multiverse" Reposirtories?
[08:14] <Patrick_> Ben, be careful what you wish for.
[08:14] <nickrud> BenC, no. I avoid responsibilyt like the plague :)
[08:14] <harisund> blaze it depends on what you want to install.
[08:14] <benplaut> :P
[08:14] <nanotube_> Patrick_, heh, i guess i'm just a happy kinda guy. why else would i be up late at night spending time on an ubuntu channel.
[08:14] <pppjjjj> how do i run an application as sudo
[08:14] <hyphenated> blaze: if you like. stuff from universe and multiverse is "unsupported" though
[08:14] <blaze> i want to install macromedia flash for mozilla
[08:14] <pppjjjj> not using command lind
[08:14] <nanotube_> pppjjjj, use command "sudo"
[08:14] <Patrick_> You are kind of happy for a dude.
[08:14] <pppjjjj> like actually double click and open..
[08:14] <pppjjjj> just do sudo then run it?
[08:14] <harisund> blaze Are you running breezy or dapper?
[08:14] <hyphenated> pppjjjj: gksudo
[08:14] <Patrick_> It's probably ben's dong.
[08:15] <Patrick_> Just ask him.
[08:15] <blaze> i think it's breezy
[08:15] <Patrick_> Me too.
[08:15] <Patrick_> It's breezy down there.
[08:15] <made> Patrick_ do you know how to help me with my crossover problems?
[08:15] <Patrick_> The air
[08:15] <Patrick_> lol, made, I have no idea.
[08:15] <nanotube_> Patrick_, yea, i forgot, all men are supposed to be crabby assholes. ;)
[08:15] <made> thank you
[08:15] <Patrick_> I was only joking with you.
[08:15] <Patrick_> Anytime.
[08:15] <pppjjjj> dumb bot
[08:15] <nanotube_> pppjjjj, check out the RootSudo page on the ubuntu wiki.
[08:15] <Patrick_> Glad to be of assistance to someone's dong.
[08:15] <made> I'll come back during my daytime then.. ttyl
[08:15] <aftertaf> made, what is your problem. ubuntu-wise?
[08:16] <pppjjjj> k
[08:16] <Patrick_> Poor guy.
[08:16] <Patrick_> He was serious.
[08:16] <mneptok> jokes are usually "funny" or "witty," hence the confusion.
[08:16] <harisund> blaze I did an install of flashplayer-mozilla on Breezy to get the Mozilla Flashplayer 7 plugin for firefox
[08:16] <made> I can't install crossover in ubuntu
[08:16] <made> I can do it in redhat
[08:16] <harisund> blaze I just followed the instructions from the wiki page on Firefox
[08:16] <made> I can do it in mandrake
[08:16] <made> I cannot do it in ubuntu
[08:16] <aftertaf> made: crossover office? you got the deb from somewhere?
[08:16] <Patrick_> Hey Made.
[08:16] <made> sh
[08:16] <Patrick_> I'm pretty sure I can help you out.
[08:17] <Patrick_> Let's go into a different chat.
[08:17] <Patrick_> :)
[08:17] <aftertaf> made ok. you trying to build from source?
[08:17] <Patrick_> We can share information on our dongs.
[08:17] <made> I have the sh script for installation
[08:17] <pppjjjj> ok i dont think automatix or easyubuntu run on x64
[08:17] <Patrick_> Me neither.
[08:17] <hyphenated> made: can you get a .deb package instead?
[08:17] <Patrick_> I think it's the dong, personally.
[08:17] <aftertaf> and made, what is the error when you run it?
[08:17] <made> probably didn't try that yet
[08:18] <Patrick_> Made, what do you think?
[08:18] <Patrick_> How about you, nano?
[08:18] <made> let me do it again it's been 10 minutes
[08:18] <hyphenated> made: you're much better off with a 'deb' than a script installer
[08:18] <aftertaf> Patrick_: try growing up or switching off... both will be of use to the rest of us
[08:18] <bbrazil> pppjjjj: you could create a x86 chroot
[08:18] <Patrick_> Who's aftertaf?
[08:18] <Patrick_> Nano.
[08:18] <hyphenated> especially for uninstall purposes
[08:18] <Patrick_> Who is this clown?
[08:18] <aftertaf> i asked myself that just now.
[08:18] <Patrick_> Nano?!
[08:18] <pppjjjj> that's not a bad script
[08:18] <Patrick_> Nano's awesome.
[08:19] <pppjjjj> someone must have had a lot of time on their hands
[08:19] <blaze> !tell blaze skype
[08:19] <Patrick_> Or their dongs.
[08:19] <Patrick_> Actually.
[08:19] <pppjjjj> hands
[08:19] <blaze> =D
[08:19] <aftertaf> this is a help channel. If you want to be somewhere where you can exercise your uncanny humour and be understood........ it ain't here pal.
[08:19] <Patrick_> Thanks for the tip, PAL.
[08:19] <pppjjjj> pal
[08:19] <Patrick_> Pal.
[08:19] <blaze> would someone give me the skype help page please :)
[08:19] <blaze> again =P
[08:19] <HIGH-FREQ> anyone got a wpc54g  wireless pcmcia card working w/o ndiswrapper?
[08:19] <Patrick_> Would someone assist make, please?
[08:19] <pppjjjj> it aint here pal.
[08:20] <Patrick_> Yeah, PAL.
[08:20] <made> aftertaf: '$HOME' must exist and belong to you in order for the installation to proceed. You may need to log in as root or use su rather than sude.
[08:20] <pppjjjj> it aint here pal.
[08:20] <Patrick_> Where do you think you're going, pal?
[08:20] <pppjjjj> finally
[08:20] <Patrick_> Haha.
[08:20] <pppjjjj> i win.
[08:20] <blaze> would someone give me the skype help page please :)
[08:20] <pppjjjj> pppjjj>bot
[08:20] <Patrick_> It ain't here pal.
[08:20] <Patrick_> :D
[08:20] <bimberi> !skype
[08:20] <ubotu> from memory, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[08:21] <Patrick_> I'm not a bot.
[08:21] <Patrick_> Jesus.
[08:21] <benplaut> that;s obvious
[08:21] <satan67> hello, can i download ubuntu with xfce and not gnome or kde? does such a thing even exist?
[08:21] <Patrick_> You guys are so gullible sometimes.
[08:21] <aftertaf> made, and you tried that with sudo, right?
[08:21] <Patrick_> Pal.
[08:21] <benplaut> but you're still a spammer and a troll
[08:21] <made> yes
[08:21] <me2win> satan67: Xubuntu
[08:21] <Patrick_> Well, it ain't here pal..
[08:21] <aftertaf> satan67: xubuntu
[08:21] <satan67> cool, thanks dudes
[08:21] <aftertaf> made, try opening a su shell and running it, see if you get the same error.
[08:21] <made> aftertaf: aftertaf
[08:21] <dli> any light weight GUI cd burner?
[08:22] <Clif> does any one know how to change the permissions on the apache2-default directoy so I can create my own sub directoyrs. Ubuntu says the directoy is owned by root and of course root is disabled so I can't loginto it and change the premessions?
[08:22] <nanotube_> dli, gnomebaker
[08:22] <made> aftertaf: sudo sh ./install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.1.sh
[08:22] <nickrud> dli, sure, nautilus
[08:22] <dli> nanotube_, gnome is too heavy for me
[08:22] <made> aftertaf: how would I go about doing that?
[08:22] <aftertaf> su -   in shell
[08:22] <hastesaver> dli, xcdroast?
[08:22] <daryl> No one in #winehq to help.  anyone here able to help?  Winecfg displays following error: Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[08:22] <daryl> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[08:22] <nickrud> dli, xcdroast then
[08:22] <dli> hastesaver, thanks
[08:23] <odat> when you type in gnome-volume-manager in the terminal do you get a user interface?
[08:23] <pppjjjj> ok, since SATA is supposed to act hotswappable and not have  a master/slave, how does it determine who C/D is?
[08:23] <daryl> odat: was that for me?
[08:23] <pppjjjj> or the boot
[08:23] <odat> daryl, anyone   i'm just wondering
[08:23] <made> aftertaf: ./install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.1.sh: No such file or directory
[08:23] <nickrud> odat, no, it's a daemon
[08:23] <cafuego_> pppjjjj: C/D ?
[08:23] <pppjjjj> drives
[08:23] <benplaut> wow... the troll is finally bored 0_0
[08:24] <odat> nickrud, i can't get it working and i don't know why
[08:24] <aftertaf> made. you might no longer be in the same folder
[08:24] <aftertaf> benplaut: i /ignore'd ages ago ;)
[08:24] <made> I'm so confused
[08:24] <daryl> I get the following error when running winecfg: Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[08:24] <aftertaf> made: i think when you su - you dont remain in the same directory, could be wrong.
[08:24] <nekostar> troll?
[08:24] <benplaut> aftertaf: i stayed to see how it would play out :P
[08:24] <made> ohh yeah
[08:24] <aftertaf> lol
[08:24] <nekostar> im having a shitty day
[08:24] <nekostar> wheres this troll
[08:24] <aftertaf> i just got up, dont need that type of crap
[08:24] <nekostar> ZOMFG GENTOO IS TEH BETTEH
[08:24] <cafuego_> aftertaf: That's correct. It aso messes up the env variables.
[08:24] <nekostar> >.>
[08:25] <benplaut> yo, Patrick_... come back and spam again
[08:25] <zxsykco> Dude, no.
[08:25] <nickrud> it should be running automatically , does ps -A | grep gnome-volume show anything
[08:25] <made> how do I cd to my home directory.. it tells me no such file or directory exists when I do that?
[08:25] <aftertaf> cafuego_ dangers of being a false n00b ;)
[08:25] <Clif> is there any one who is an expert with apache2 running on ubuntu that can message for some help?
[08:25] <bbrazil> made: cd
[08:25] <nickrud> made, cd
[08:25] <me2win> made: cd
[08:25] <daryl> No one in #winehq to help.  Anyone here able to help?  I get the following error when running winecfg: Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[08:25] <aftertaf> cafuego_ you know a better way? a working way?
[08:25] <cafuego_> aftertaf: 'sudo -s'
[08:25] <aftertaf> doh
[08:25] <aftertaf> :)
[08:26] <cafuego_> aftertaf: It keeps yer env vars (so X for instnce keeps working)
[08:26] <nanotube_> dli, try the commandline then. cdrecord
[08:26] <aftertaf> ill remember that.
[08:26] <made> cd ~/what?
[08:26] <cafuego_> made: cd ~username
[08:27] <daryl> No one in #winehq to help.  Anyone here able to help?  I get the following error when running winecfg: Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[08:27] <cafuego_> pppjjjj: Can you elaborate in your question? It makes no sense to me
[08:27] <dli> nanotube_, graveman sounds good
[08:27] <made> The DISPLAY variable is not set.  You should either login to as root or use
[08:27] <made> the command "su" with no flags, to make sure setup has an X display to use.
[08:27] <aftertaf> made... if you're in that shel you started with su - , press CTL+D and then type su -s ....
[08:27] <hastesaver> made, cd with no arguments goes to your home directory.
[08:27] <aftertaf> made: my fault ;)
[08:27] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Not su -s, 'sudo -'
[08:27] <cafuego_> 'sudo -s' even
[08:27] <nickrud> sudo -i or sudo -s : to see the difference, do an env | sort after each of sudo -i & sudo -s.  sudo -i is safer.
[08:28] <nanotube_> dli, hmm, cool. never heard of it. :)
[08:28] <aftertaf> i need to do more shell..... sorry ppl :/
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> daryl: how are you running it?
[08:28] <made> su
[08:29] <nickrud> erg, shoulda caught the  keeps yer env vars (so X for instnce keeps working) earlier :)
[08:29] <cafuego_> made: Do not use 'su'.
[08:29] <aftertaf> made. Quit that console and tpe sudo -s    or sudo -i in a new one...
[08:29] <Clif> Any experts on apache2 that can help a new ubuntu user with a problem
[08:29] <cafuego_> made: As normal user, on a command line, run 'sudo <command that needs to run as root>'
[08:29] <Patrick_> Hey guys.
[08:29] <jenda> Does "." match whitespace in regex?
[08:29] <Patrick_> Is aftertaf still here?
[08:29] <Patrick_> Oh, there he is.
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> jenda: I believe so
[08:29] <cafuego_> Patrick_: No, he left to recompile libc6.
[08:30] <Patrick_> Where's nano?
[08:30] <nickrud> rflol
[08:30] <jenda> fyrestrtr: thx
[08:30] <aftertaf> lol cafuego_ :)
[08:30] <Patrick_> Nano?!!?
[08:30] <Patrick_> Well.
[08:30] <made> cafuego: I have tried that
[08:30] <Patrick_> It aint here pal
[08:30] <cafuego_> Patrick_: `nano' is in /usr/bin
[08:30] <cafuego_> made: And what happened?
[08:30] <nickrud> made, you need to do a static one, then you can chroot and do the working one ;)
[08:30] <azathoth> hmmm... how can i fix it so that ubuntu defaults to using dmfe instead of tulip as my network driver?
[08:30] <made> chroot?
[08:31] <Patrick_> Made
[08:31] <Patrick_> Do you have a dong?
[08:31] <cafuego_> !ops
[08:31] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:31] <Patrick_> Hey!
[08:31] <nickrud> cafuego, I though you were one, darn
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> azathoth: are you having problems with your network driver?
[08:31] <cafuego_> nickrud: not to my knowledge
[08:32] <nanotube_> cafuego_, yea man, werent you an op? or i guess you are a different cafuego...
[08:32] <benplaut> nekostar: come back again...
[08:32] <nickrud> cafuego_, so I see, to my utter dissapointment
[08:32] <nanotube_> heh
[08:32] <cafuego_> what do I need resposibility for?
[08:32] <made> Patrick_: irrelevant to this case leave my dong out of this
[08:32] <aftertaf> Patrick_: you can be in here, and be funny, it aint a problem. But quit hassling people ok? It'll just get us all against you.
[08:32] <Patrick_> Made, I believe I can help you.
[08:32] <Patrick_> After, it ain't here pal.
[08:32] <aftertaf> Patrick_: and for info, a publmic help channel can have kids on here too.....
[08:33] <azathoth> fyrestrtr: i was, but i fixed it by changing from tulip to dmfe
[08:33] <nanotube_> cafuego_, same reason everyone else needs it - or to put it better, same reason everyone else doesnt need it. :)
[08:33] <cafuego_> made: Patrick_ is a troll, just put it on /ignore.
[08:33] <Patrick_> Cafuego's got issues.
[08:33] <HIGH-FREQ> anyone got a wpc54g  wireless pcmcia card working without ndiswrapper?
[08:33] <azathoth> the trouble is, when i reboot, it goes back to tulip, so i have to modprobe -r tulip
[08:33] <Patrick_> I miss Nano.
[08:33] <Patrick_> Nanooo!!
[08:33] <azathoth> i want it to default as dmfe
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> azathoth: aah, I see what you mean.
[08:33] <nanotube_> HIGH-FREQ, not me... have you tried searching on the forums?
[08:34] <HIGH-FREQ> ya...it all seems everyone using ndiswrapper with it ;(
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> azathoth: edit /etc/modules
[08:34] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: I'm using one right now.
[08:34] <AlmtyBob> I'm going to be formating with XFS on a drive used from streaming movies to my xboxes and pcs.  Do I need to set any options for mkfs.xfs?  I'm reading the man page and it's greek to me
[08:34] <HIGH-FREQ> ooh?
[08:34] <azathoth> yeah
[08:34] <azathoth> i added dmfe in there, there is no tulip to comment out
[08:34] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: wpc54gv2
[08:34] <nickrud> azathoth, add tulip to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[08:34] <Patrick_> Guys.
[08:34] <azathoth> blacklist yeah? cool
[08:34] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: yes....
[08:35] <Patrick_> Where the dongs at?
[08:35] <Ubuntunoob> HI. eh.... when I run udate in terminal, there's one link that's not found... this link;  http://theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/./Packages.gz what to do, to fresh this link?
[08:35] <Alex> AlmtyBob: Standard WFM.
[08:35] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: If you don't want ndiswrapper, you need Ubuntu dapper.
[08:35] <Patrick_> Does anyone in here have an Intel iMac?
[08:35] <HIGH-FREQ> azathogh: simple  echo tulip | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:35] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: ya i have dapper 6.06
[08:35] <nickrud> azathoth, and you can add dmfe on it's own line in /etc/modules to force load it
[08:35] <benplaut> nekostar...
[08:35] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: i'm extremely new to pcmcia....
[08:36] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: Then you need the bcm43xx firmware package
[08:36] <daryl> Help! I get the following error when running winecfg: Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[08:36] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: kernel version is  2.6.15-22-k7  somethin like that
[08:36] <made> aftertaf: thx for the suggestion it helped my headache.. brb.. getting something for my sore throat.
[08:36] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> daryl: where are you running it from?
[08:36] <daryl> terminal
[08:36] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: download bcm43xx-firmware_1.1, instal it.
[08:37] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: then reboot
[08:37] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: i have a builtin broadcom already but bcm43xx is actin up or somethin
[08:37] <daryl> fyrestrtr, from a terminal.  normal user
[08:37] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: What builtin one do you have?
[08:37] <nanotube_> daryl, what is the output of "echo $DISPLAY" ?
[08:37] <HIGH-FREQ> 4328
[08:37] <HIGH-FREQ> 4318
[08:37] <cafuego_> ioc
[08:37] <cafuego_> yes, then you're stuck.
[08:37] <HIGH-FREQ> so ndiswrapper then ;(
[08:37] <cafuego_> Unless you hack the bcm43xx code to not try and use the 4318 card
[08:38] <Ubuntunoob> HI. eh.... when I run udate in terminal, there's one link that's not found... this link;  http://theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/./Packages.gz what to do, to fresh this link?
[08:38] <daryl> nanotube: the output is:    :0.0
[08:38] <HIGH-FREQ> hmm...i'll go with ndiswrapper then ;(  for now
[08:38] <made> aftertaf: may I pm?
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> Ubuntunoob: you can ignore it.
[08:38] <HIGH-FREQ> till i can figure out whats prob in 2.6.17-rc3 and bcm43xx
[08:38] <nanotube_> daryl, hmm, seems ok to me...
[08:38] <Ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr, its not that important really?
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> daryl: logout, then login again to gnome.
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> Ubuntunoob: no, because its not an official repository.
[08:39] <nickrud> Ubuntunoob, I'd comment it out in the /etc/apt/sources.list. What did you get from there, anyway?
[08:39] <daryl> fyrestrtr: you mean reboot?
[08:39] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: there is no need to fetch newer kernels off kernel.org, the Ubuntu guys backport the latest 43xx driver stuff into the Ubuntu kernels.
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> daryl: no, restart X. hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:39] <daryl> fyrestrtr: and how do i get back?
[08:40] <Ubuntunoob> nickrud, dunno exactly.... just ran an update now and saw the error
[08:40] <blaze> !flash
[08:40] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:40] <HIGH-FREQ> well...here was my issue....i got it working finally..very nicely....then i updated my system with update-manager  and now...wifi-radar  doesn't even show a signal at all for some reason and won't connect...
[08:40] <HIGH-FREQ> it did before....before the updates
[08:40] <nickrud> Ubuntunoob, did do a howto for listen?
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> daryl: type 'gdm' -- it should take you back to the login screen automatically. If it takes you to the console, just type 'gdm'.
[08:40] <azathoth> hmmm... easyubuntu is crashing out... it's looking for .xml files that aren't there... anyone had any issues with easy ubuntu? or can recommend something similar but better?
[08:41] <Ubuntunoob> nickrud, what do you mean?
[08:41] <HIGH-FREQ> i'd like to use somethin like wifi-radar ...that shows me how much signal is
[08:41] <nanotube_> HIGH-FREQ, networkmanager is good for that
[08:41] <nickrud> Ubuntunoob, oh, I see that they've changed that repo to _breezy_obsolete
[08:41] <daryl> firestrtr: same error
[08:42] <HIGH-FREQ> nanotube_: ya but netmanager was buggy with this bcm43xx
[08:42] <nickrud> azathoth, you could ask about it on #easyubuntu
[08:42] <nanotube_> HIGH-FREQ, ah ic, didn't know that. works fine for me on breezy with ipw2200...
[08:42] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: No, wifi-radar doesn't work with bcm43xx
[08:42] <azathoth> ah, will do, thanks :D
[08:42] <Ubuntunoob> nickrud, meaning...?
[08:43] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: it was working fine
[08:43] <nanotube_> HIGH-FREQ, well, it still wonks out sometimes, but it's good, for the most part. :)
[08:43] <HIGH-FREQ> nanotube_: that the wpc54g?
[08:43] <aftertaf> made: you need to register with freenode to send PMs..... in case you tried and it didnt work.
[08:43] <nickrud> Ubuntunoob, meaning that repo is history, you can simply delete it. There're packages for dapper though.
[08:43] <daryl> fyrestrtr: same error
[08:43] <zxsykco> breezy badger is old, and out of date, hence obsolete, Ubuntunoob.
[08:43] <nanotube_> HIGH-FREQ, no, thats intel 2200bg
[08:44] <Ubuntunoob> nickrud, kk
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> daryl: are you running a standard installation? nothing custom?
[08:44] <Ubuntunoob> zxsykco, is it safe to update to dapper now?
[08:44] <HIGH-FREQ> oh ok
[08:44] <nickrud> zxsykco, heh. I'm setting up a machine right now that will run breezy until it's no longer supported :)
[08:44] <daryl> fyrestrtr: its totally custom
[08:44] <daryl> fyrestrtr: I followed the world of warcraft instructions wiki
[08:44] <nanotube_> HIGH-FREQ, not related to your nic at all. i was just saying...
[08:44] <blaze> i have enabled the multiverse repositories but still can't install macromedia flash =((
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> daryl: I meant, your X setup.
[08:45] <blaze> please help me
[08:45] <daryl> fyrestrtr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[08:45] <phuz> is there a minimal install for gnome with aptget?
[08:45] <daryl> fyrestrtr: no idea what you mean about x setup
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> daryl: by the way, I had WoW running under Wine on X, but due to the lame drivers from ATI, I didn't use it.
[08:45] <HIGH-FREQ> well...this is gonna blow.....this linksys wpc54g operates on bcm43xx  and i already have builtin wifi which uses same driver
[08:45] <nanotube_> HIGH-FREQ, so this is a laptop, right?
[08:46] <nickrud> blaze, does apt-cache policy flashplayer-mozilla (in a terminal) show an installation candidate?
[08:46] <daryl> fyrestrtr: do you mean my xorg.conf file?
[08:46] <nanotube_> HIGH-FREQ, usually, the "builtin" wireless is a minipci card, and can be removed.
[08:46] <roniez> hm.. anybody know why i get connection timed out when trying to ssh in to my computer from almost any windows computer but home home windows works just fine to use to connect to it?.
[08:46] <nanotube_> HIGH-FREQ, maybe removing the builtin card will solve your problems?
[08:46] <blaze> how to check? =)
[08:46] <blaze> because i can't understand the question
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> daryl: no, but I don't know what could be your problem. I compiled wine from source (but not using that wiki article). It worked for me so I don't know what you did there.
[08:47] <blaze> i mean what to type in the terminal and i'll tell you the result
[08:47] <phuz> roniez: firewall/nat?
[08:47] <daryl> fyrestrtr: no idea what to do then?
[08:47] <nanotube_> roniez, sounds like a problem with your router - since when you are at home, your ssh connection goes direct through the lan, but from outside, it has to traverse NAT.
[08:47] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: will it work fine ?  it won't conflict
[08:47] <nickrud> blaze, open a terminal (on the top menu bar, Applications->Accessories->Termina) and then type in that terminal  apt-cache policy flashplayer-mozilla
[08:47] <roniez> i got nat
[08:47] <Ubuntunoob> nickrud, but after deliting the link, should I ad something to the repo?
[08:47] <roniez> but port 22 and port 443 are pointed to my linux computer.
[08:47] <blaze> ok, sec.
[08:47] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: DIsab;e bcm43xx, use ndiswrapper. It will work just fine.
[08:47] <zxsykco> Heh, whoa, sorry, I am way off key, Ubuntunoob. Stick with breezy for now.
[08:47] <HIGH-FREQ> k
[08:47] <Ubuntunoob> zxsykco, lol... kk
[08:48] <blaze> blaze@Blz:~$ apt-cache policy flashplayer-mozilla
[08:48] <blaze> W: Unable to locate package flashplayer-mozilla
[08:48] <roniez> but right now i am sshing in from one of my swedish computers (its slackware) and that works just fine to ssh in to it.
[08:48] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego_ : i just blacklisted the bcm43xx  so i should be good then.... is it still gonna be a problem with the rate speed
[08:48] <Ubuntunoob> zxsykco, almost dit it :p
[08:48] <nickrud> Ubuntunoob, you'd simply remove that repo completely, then sudo apt-get update. There error will be gon
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> roniez: forward port 22 to your ubuntu box from your router/nat/gateway, then use your external IP address when connecting from outside your local network (outside your house).
[08:48] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego_: or is that just on broadcom
[08:48] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: It'll "just work".
[08:48] <zxsykco> Sorry, Ubuntunoob, I got trigger happy.
[08:48] <Ubuntunoob> nickrud, k thx
[08:49] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: no i mean can i use full capabilities of the rate...like 54M instead of 11 with this broadcom 4318
[08:49] <pingveno> I'm trying to get a dual head, extended desktop arrangement for the VGA port on my ThinkPad T43, but I'm having problems finding good advice around the Web on setting it up.
[08:49] <blaze> nickrud, did you get my answer?
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: well hey :) I am on a Thinkpad T43. How can I help?
[08:49] <jafonux> i'm trying to obtain permission and i'm gettigna a little lost ........in th inittab file i'm trying to change the permission from "id:2:initdefault:" to level 3......... I keep getting no such file or diectory
[08:49] <cafuego_> HIGH-FREQ: To my knowledge, yes
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> jafonux: make sure you are using sudo
[08:50] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego: ok i hope it goes fast then...hehe....
[08:50] <pingveno> fyrestrtr: have you done anything with the external monitor?
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: yes, it works great.
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: even when docked :)
[08:50] <pingveno> extended desktop and all?
[08:50] <nanotube_> jafonux, well, what is the exact command you are entering to edit the inittab?
[08:50] <pingveno> Or just duplication?
[08:50] <siccness> Hey, anyone know of a commandline-based CPU temperature program?
[08:50] <roniez> fyrestrtr: that is what i am doing.
[08:50] <nickrud> blaze, no I hadn't. Could you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ? (in that terminal, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list & cut & paste)
[08:50] <nanotube_> jafonux, also, in ubuntu, runlevel 2 and 3 are exactly the same, so there is no reason to change the inittab
[08:50] <dell500> is it possible to get two video streams playing at once?
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: no, not extended. I use it as mirror in my setup. But extended is possible.
[08:51] <pingveno> Ah
[08:52] <pingveno> I've got it working as a mirror, the problem is the extension part :(
[08:52] <nanotube_> dell500, i don't see why not... just open up a coupla instances of vlc (or mplayer, or whatever), and have them go at it...
[08:52] <nickrud> dell500, sure, I've done that. just run more than one media player
[08:52] <AlmtyBob> I'm making a media server.  What directory should I store all the files I want to server?
[08:52] <blaze> there you go, nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13772
[08:52] <dell500> nickrud, well kaffeine won't run multiple instances for some reason
[08:52] <AlmtyBob> like what's the standard to place to put media files? just /movies/ or something?
[08:52] <nickrud> AlmtyBob, /srv is a useful root dir for that stuff
[08:53] <AlmtyBob> cd srv
[08:53] <AlmtyBob> err wrong window 8)
[08:53] <cafuego_> AlmtyBob: Whevever you want
[08:53] <AlmtyBob> is that what it's there for?
[08:53] <made> hmm question.. what if I have a tar file with the sh and an rpm inside for crossover office..
[08:53] <made> I forgot how to untar..
[08:53] <AlmtyBob> I just want to make sure I'm following some kinda convention, why I don't know
[08:53] <AlmtyBob> tar -xvf tarball
[08:53] <nanotube_> AlmtyBob, well, you can use just about any dir you want, really. just conf whatever software you use to serve them to use that dir as root, and you are good to go.
[08:53] <daaku> any vim (specifically netrw) users? i'm trying to figure out how to get rid of the `press enter to continue` on a :w when editing over scp
[08:53] <cafuego_> AlmtyBob: There isn't really one
[08:53] <AlmtyBob> and can you mount two drives to the same folder without LVM?
[08:53] <lampshade> made, tar -xvf file
[08:53] <made> thx
[08:53] <lampshade> should work
[08:54] <blaze> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13772
[08:54] <AlmtyBob> and can you ahve some disks with LVM and some without?
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: are you using binary drivers?
[08:54] <nickrud> blaze, ok. close gedit. Then, in that terminal, type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list . Enter your password. Then look for lines ending with universe and add multiverse to the end (there are four)
[08:55] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego_: why o why does it have to be me ;(    lmao
[08:55] <pingveno> I'm not exactly sure, I just installed Ubuntu a couple of days ago. The only time I've gotten dual monitors working was when I was using Gentoo.
[08:55] <ispiked_> so I just set my package selections back with dpkg --set-selections. how do I remove all other packages and make sure only those are installed?
[08:55] <nanotube_> AlmtyBob, interesting questions... unfortunately i don't know anything about lvm.
[08:56] <pingveno> And, of course, I deleted all of the configuration files
[08:56] <blaze> nickrud, can't i just type sudo gedit sources.list ?
[08:56] <blaze> because it tells me "no write permission for file"
[08:56] <HIGH-FREQ> cafuego_:  ndiswrapper -i lsbcmnds.inf   from the wpc54gv2 windoz drivers....then i ran ndiswrapper -l  and says driver present..but doesn't say hardware present ;(
[08:56] <ispiked_> HIGH-FREQ: you may not have the right driver, then.
[08:56] <nickrud> blaze, sudo gedit can be dangerous (if you change your preferences) gksudo is better
[08:56] <made> OMG>> HEHEHEH I got it I got it
[08:57] <HIGH-FREQ> hmm
[08:57] <aftertaf> :)
[08:57] <aftertaf> lol cool made
[08:57] <wenko> hey I have a TVTuner Card. How do I install the drivers for it.
[08:57] <HIGH-FREQ> d/l the wpc54g version 2  drivers ;(
[08:57] <HIGH-FREQ> thats what i did
[08:57] <HIGH-FREQ> hehe
[08:57] <made> I have the PROFESSIONAL version now.. hehe
[08:57] <aftertaf> wenko: do you have them yet?
[08:57] <AlmtyBob> wenko: look up ivtv
[08:57] <wenko> no
[08:57] <wenko> ivtv?
[08:57] <made> wink wink.. hehe
[08:57] <aftertaf> made: legally? ;P
[08:57] <blaze> nickrud now what?
[08:57] <AlmtyBob> www.ivtvdriver.org I think
[08:57] <made> wink wink
[08:57] <pingveno> fyrestrtr: how would I find out if I have the binary drivers or not?
[08:58] <blaze> nickrud, i found the lines
[08:58] <wenko> AlmtyBob would you prefer a PM
[08:58] <made> w/e torrentz.com has to offer.. hehe
[08:58] <lampshade> why the hell does firefox not open my torrent files sometimes and other times it sends them straight to azureus like I told it to.... so inconsistent ^_^
[08:58] <nickrud> blaze, hm. to be safe, save that file to your desktop, and paste the new one on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ so i can see it
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: fglrxinfo
[08:58] <HIGH-FREQ> oh ok....stupid me
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: you need to manually install them, if you didn't then you don't have them :)
[08:58] <HIGH-FREQ> hehe...its a wpc54g"s" version 2   lmao
[08:58] <aftertaf> made: hehe :)
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: the binary drivers from ATI have support for dual monitors in their control panel application.
[08:59] <pingveno> fyrestrtr: ah, I see
[08:59] <blaze> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13773
[08:59] <ispiked_> HIGH-FREQ: so uh... how did you figure out what drivers you needed?
[08:59] <blaze> i've backed it up :)
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> lampshade: it probably has something to do with the site you are downloading from, and what mime type its giving the files. That's how firefox knows where to send it.
[08:59] <ispiked_> HIGH-FREQ: it's best to do `lspci |grep 802' and google the chipset.
[08:59] <pingveno> Are they manual install (aka, .tar) or available from universal?
[09:00] <HIGH-FREQ> lspci didnt' even detect it or somethin
[09:00] <HIGH-FREQ> its pcmcia
[09:00] <ispiked_> HIGH-FREQ: ah.
[09:00] <HIGH-FREQ> and i've never worked with pcmcia
[09:00] <ispiked_> HIGH-FREQ: don't have much experience dealing with those.
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI (read the Using drivers from ati.com section).
[09:00] <HIGH-FREQ> me neither....hehe
[09:00] <blaze> nickrud, are you with me :D ?
[09:00] <nickrud> blaze, it should look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13774 . Once it does, save it as /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:00] <lampshade> fyrestrtr, well the weird thing is it pops up right, with "This file is of type TORRENT"  and the box is still already checked from last time that I want to auto open it with azureus... that's what is weird.  I mean it remembers the box choice for that type of file so why not roll with it even if the mime type is slightly messed up :-/  '
[09:01] <blaze> ok, sec.
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: the default drivers (the non ati.com ones) have a famous bug with suspend/resume support. In that it will corrupt your display when you resume.
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> lampshade: because TORRENT != torrent
[09:01] <nickrud> famous among ati users, maybe ;)
[09:01] <pingveno> fyrestrtr: interesting... I haven't had any problems with either
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> lampshade: and 'slightly messed up' can lead to 'large f*ckup' if you are not careful :)
[09:01] <lampshade> but then it should only happen once because I then rechecked the box for TORRENT as well
[09:02] <blaze> nickrud, now what?
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: are you sure you are using binary drivers?
[09:02] <nickrud> blaze after you've saved it, close gedit again, and in that terminal type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[09:02] <blaze> sec.
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> nickrud: yeah, this is my first (and only) ATI chipset PC. I freakin' hate ATI.
[09:03] <noname1024> hi, how can i figure out exact version of my Linux from command shell ? thansk
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> noname1024: uname -a
[09:03] <blaze> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[09:03] <blaze> again..
[09:03] <blaze> but the update went through :)
[09:03] <nickrud> fyrestrtr, my fear is that I'm gonna have to learn ati because I need a decent laptop ...
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> nickrud: no, you can find nvidia-based laptops.
[09:03] <noname1024> thanks, fyrestrtr
[09:03] <lampshade> pingveno, there is an excellent guide in the forums that really helped me do the whole ATI thing.  Seems to be good to go now.  I can play Doom III (not well but I can)
[09:04] <shadeofgrey> is doom III for linmux free?
[09:04] <lampshade> neg
[09:04] <shadeofgrey> how hard is it to install?
[09:04] <lampshade> not free
[09:04] <blaze> nickrud, E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[09:04] <blaze>  ?
[09:04] <lampshade> you actually copy files from the windows disks from the store and then just download and innstall the linux launcher basically
[09:04] <wenko> hey I have a TVTuner Card. How do I install the drivers for it.
[09:04] <nickrud> blaze, you probably didn't get a good sources.list ;( Don't worry too much, you're not alone. Open a fresh gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and paste again :)
[09:04] <dell500> how do you force quit something?
[09:04] <lampshade> the neat thing is, windows it made me put in the cd, but with linux it doesn't require me to use thecd which I liek
[09:05] <blaze> and then what?
[09:05] <cafuego_> dell500: start the system monitor, right click it, kill it
[09:05] <nickrud> dell500, alt-F2 xkill, and click the window to kill
[09:05] <ispiked_> HIGH-FREQ: surely there's something on the wiki about it.
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: I had mixed success with WoW. Because my card only has 32 MB RAM, I couldn't play it on full screen resolution -- had to use Windowed mode. Also had to use the directx, not opengl -- opengl caused all sorts of artifacts that I had to install patches for. It was a big PITA. nVidia's binary drivers don't have such issues.
[09:05] <dell500> sys mon isn't working
[09:05] <blaze> nickrud,  i've pasted it again
[09:05] <lampshade> dell500, if you know the name of the program you can do killall name  in a console I added a little icon on my tray for XKILL when I need it.
[09:05] <pingveno> fyrestrtr: with WoW? impressive
[09:06] <nickrud> blaze, I don't see it
[09:06] <blaze> oh, in the page, w8
[09:06] <pingveno> Ah, I went for the 64 MB
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: I used the guide at winehq.
[09:06] <noname1024> ...and how can i figure out the distro name ?
[09:06] <pingveno> I've got a dual boot, so I'll save myself a little trouble and reboot the computer :-P
[09:07] <noname1024> uname apparently returns Linux kernel version
[09:07] <nickrud> fyrestrtr, they all cost too much (the ones I've seen, anyway)
[09:07] <blaze> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13775
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: I got lucky. I got a Dell Inspirion, 2 Ghz/ 2 GB / 100 GB -- and use that to play WoW :D
[09:07] <blaze> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13775
[09:07] <lampshade> noname1024,  cat /etc/lsb-release
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> well by got I mean, given to me.
[09:07] <wenko> hey I have a TVTuner Card. How do I install the drivers for it. anyone know?
[09:07] <lampshade> in a console
[09:08] <noname1024> thank you
[09:08] <Alsa> clear
[09:08] <Alsa> lol
[09:08] <Alsa> wrong window
[09:08] <dell500> nickrud, do I need to use a different type of player or something in vlc?
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> wenko: what kind is it?
[09:08] <Alsa> !pastebin
[09:08] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:10] <nickrud> blaze, oh, bad. You deleted a lot. To get you back to normal, copy the source.list from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> pingveno: WoW keeps teasing me with that nVidia -- the way its meant to be played logo on the graphics option screen. As if I didn't know I should have gotten an nvidia card.
[09:10] <blaze> ok
[09:11] <jaro> moin
[09:11] <wenko> fyrestrtr: its a ASUS
[09:11] <variant> how do you start sshd on ubuntu 5.10 live cd please?
[09:11] <nickrud> dell500, I'd think you could run more than one instance of vlc, but I don't remember actually doing that. I've had more than one mplayer running at once, though
[09:11] <variant> do i have to generate all the keys etc manualy?
[09:11] <lampshade> fyrestrtr, yeah, had I known the ati driver support was soo much more behind nvidia on linux I wouldn't have done it.  Well maybe  I would have.  But probably not
[09:12] <variant> nickrud: yes you can
[09:12] <variant> is there an sshd startup script?
[09:12] <nickrud> variant, heh. I do like unixy stuff :)
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> 'You have to download a total of 505 MB' o.0
[09:13] <nickrud> variant, it'd be in /etc/init.d/ if it exists in the live cd
[09:13] <variant> nope
[09:13] <variant> sshd is not started automatically on the live cd is it?
[09:14] <dli> variant, livecd should not start any daemon auto
[09:14] <variant> dli: ok, but how can i start sshd then?
[09:14] <AlmtyBob> how do I restart samba? it doesn't have an /etc/init.d/ entry
[09:14] <nickrud> variant, you probably need to install the sshd server, it creates keys when it's installed
[09:14] <variant> gah
[09:15] <dli> variant, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart, not sure whether ubuntu changes the name
[09:15] <nickrud> variant, openssh-server
[09:15] <benplaut> wow... did Patrick_ fianlly get banned?
[09:15] <topyli> AlmtyBob: then you probably don't have samba either
[09:15] <nickrud> dli, that's the one
[09:15] <topyli> AlmtyBob: /etc/init.d/samba should be there if you have installed the samba server
[09:16] <luke_> hey
[09:16] <variant> thanks, that did it
[09:16] <AlmtyBob> thanks I'm dumb thought it was /etc/init.d/smb
[09:17] <luke_> hello anyone?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> ?
[09:17] <luke_> lol i just joined
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> give it a few seconds, it'll sink in ;)
[09:17] <nickrud> blaze, you getting along ok?
[09:18] <luke_> can somebody tell me an anti vuires program for luinx?
[09:18] <wenko> hey I have a TVTuner Card. How do I install the drivers for it. anyone know?....please
[09:18] <benplaut> luke_: F-Spot, ClamAV
[09:18] <benplaut> why do you need one?
[09:18] <luke_> dont have 1
[09:18] <benplaut> you don't need one
[09:19] <luke_> i wanna b protected
[09:19] <luke_> my dad says if i dont get 1 im not alud 2 use the comp
[09:19] <benplaut> wait... i'll give you somehting to show to your dad
[09:19] <luke_> ok
[09:19] <nickrud> Luke, then install clamav, tell him you have one
[09:19] <wenko> this is Linux.....thats like saying you want to wear a condom to fsck a sex doll
[09:20] <luke_> ?
[09:20] <pingveno> interesting comparison...
[09:20] <benplaut> that's a really good comparison :P
[09:20] <aftertaf> tell him a virus on linux is a collector's item
[09:20] <AlmtyBob> hah that was a fun debugging session.  Couldn't figure out why samba wouldn't let me access some dirs and it was becuase I chmod'd them 666
[09:20] <pingveno> There haven't been any significant Linux viruses
[09:20] <wenko> Linux is basically virus free
[09:20] <wenko> yeah
[09:21] <luke_> ok... he still wants 1 he donent know that 4 sure lol
[09:21] <wenko> ...
[09:21] <AlmtyBob> tell your dad not to worry about viruses, instead tell him to worry about script kiddies port scanning and hacking your box
[09:21] <luke_> i know......
[09:21] <luke_> lol
[09:21] <wenko> They dont make them cause they dont need them!
[09:22] <benplaut> luke_: put your dad in this chatroom (or #ubuntuforums) and we'll explain to him :)
[09:22] <luke_> i know!!!!!!!!!1 im terying 2 tell him that
[09:22] <wenko> would u were gloves if u had no hands?
[09:22] <luke_> lol im 21
[09:22] <AlmtyBob> wenko: only to fit in
[09:22] <Alsa> !usplash
[09:22] <ubotu> I heard usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:22] <benplaut> >_>
[09:22] <wenko> LOL
[09:22] <benplaut> luke_: why do you need his permission?
[09:22] <luke_> idk
[09:22] <wenko> soooooo...anyone wanna help me out with this Tuner?
[09:22] <benplaut> is this your computer?!
[09:22] <luke_> i liv at his house we have l;ike 5 other comps he dosent want em 2 get infencted
[09:23] <AlmtyBob> wenko: are you installing mythtv?
[09:23] <benplaut> oh
[09:23] <AlmtyBob> if so google an ubuntu mythtv install guide
[09:23] <luke_> yea
[09:23] <wenko> no, Zapper
[09:23] <luke_> my comp
[09:23] <aftertaf> luke_: if he has windows, he's in danger, but not because of your linux..
[09:23] <luke_> y?
[09:23] <aftertaf> anyway, stick clamav on it :)
[09:23] <luke_> hes got windows
[09:23] <AlmtyBob> then google an ubuntu mythtv install guide and read the ivtv section
[09:23] <salmiak_> luke_, get your father here and we'll tell him about linux and viruses ;)
[09:23] <nickrud> Luke, have him read http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[09:23] <luke_> ok ok let me get him
[09:23] <aftertaf> hehe
[09:23] <aftertaf> :)
[09:23] <salmiak_> ;D
[09:24] <luke_> hello
[09:24] <wenko> Windows is a prostitute with many STDs and Linux is a little vergian penguin
[09:24] <pingveno> another interesting  way to put it
[09:24] <wenko> :D
[09:24] <luke_> what the hell?
[09:24] <benplaut> thanks nickrud ... that's the one i was looking for
[09:24] <pingveno> Is this luke_'s father?
[09:24] <nickrud> I like the first one :)
[09:24] <luke_> yeah
[09:24] <aftertaf> hello Luke_  's father.....
[09:24] <luke_> ok im here
[09:24] <luke_> talk
[09:25] <aftertaf> linux does not have virii
[09:25] <wenko> i have a feeling that comment is gunna gey put on bash.org
[09:25] <luke_> ok how do u know that for sure?
[09:25] <wenko> thats the word virii!!!
[09:25] <aftertaf> it doesnt leave all sorts of openings like windows does, to be exploited....
[09:25] <wenko> plural...
[09:25] <nickrud> luke_, take a look at http://librenix.com/?inode=21 for a quick overview of why
[09:25] <aftertaf> windows is very insecure and has many exploitable bugs.
[09:25] <pingveno> And it's also a moving target...
[09:25] <pingveno> Linux, that is
[09:25] <luke_> ok./.
[09:26] <AlmtyBob> luke_: the short answer is that by default a user can't modify the code of the programs he runs
[09:26] <luke_> the thing is.......
[09:26] <aftertaf> linux is secure, and may have bugs, but everything is closed by defalut
[09:26] <AlmtyBob> so a virus can't spread and is rendered useless
[09:26] <luke_> i can make any program
[09:26] <luke_> even a vuires for linux
[09:26] <luke_> anyfing i can make
[09:27] <aftertaf> your son can install an antivirus if you really want him to..... its called clamav. but it is only really useful on linux when your linux is a mail server and windows clients connect to it. It removes the virus infectd attachments.
[09:27] <MistaED> the big thing is, a virus wouldn't really spread at epic proportions like with windows right? if one goes down, it doesn't take out all the other machines with it
[09:28] <koroded> what's another limewire-type program for Linux?
[09:28] <luke_> ok im puttin my son back on cya all
[09:28] <aftertaf> otherwise it doesnt do much, because there anrent any viruses/virii on linux
[09:28] <pingveno> k
[09:28] <aftertaf> bye :)
[09:28] <salmiak_> cya, luke's father
[09:28] <luke_> hey guyz
[09:28] <aftertaf> looool
[09:28] <Industrial> :p
[09:28] <nickrud> we convinced him, yeah, really :)
[09:28] <salmiak_> luke_, don't let your fathers evil ways conquer
[09:28] <luke_> under applactions in system there is a printers thinggie i cant open it i put in the correct password help me someone!!!!!
[09:28] <evoz> anyone know a Good Quicktime/DVD/AVI/WMV Video player for UBUNTU?
[09:29] <evoz> Totem sucks!
[09:29] <evoz> doesnt even work
[09:29] <nickrud> !restricted
[09:29] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:29] <pingveno> I wonder if there will ever be a virus for Linux... Except for these: http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222
[09:29] <pingveno> viruses running on Wine!
[09:29] <aftertaf> lol
[09:29] <nickrud> evoz, there're various ways, see that !restricted link above
[09:29] <luke_> OK I GOT CLAMAV
[09:29] <aftertaf> cool.
[09:30] <luke_> SO BNOW WHAT DO I DO?
[09:30] <aftertaf> nothing. it's on and happy now :)
[09:30] <luke_> I GOT A FOLDER WIF LOTS OF FOLDERS INSIDE
[09:30] <salmiak_> now your father can sleep at night. His wintendo machines won't get any viruses from your linux machine... ...
[09:30] <luke_> noooooo
[09:30] <luke_> not what im askin
[09:30] <pingveno> As long as he feels like your computer isn't going to blow up, I guess clamav might be of comfort
[09:30] <luke_> how do i use it? instyall it?
[09:31] <aftertaf> luke_: how did you install it?
[09:31] <luke_> i dident
[09:31] <luke_> just got it fomr net
[09:31] <aftertaf> type sudo aptitude install clam*
[09:31] <aftertaf> better than source code
[09:31] <luke_> wtf?
[09:32] <luke_> sudo aptitude install clam?????
[09:32] <pingveno> aptitude? or apt-get?
[09:32] <luke_> im an amuture
[09:32] <luke_> just installed linux ppl have 2 help me along
[09:32] <aftertaf> type sudo aptitude install clamav  (or apt-get)
[09:32] <luke_> where
[09:32] <pingveno> Are you using KDE or GNOME?
[09:33] <aftertaf> luke_: open a console and type ^^^
[09:33] <luke_> gnome
[09:33] <pingveno> I think there's something in the applications menu called synaptics
[09:33] <pingveno> synaptic*
[09:33] <luke_> never heard of it
[09:34] <mustard5> :)
[09:34] <pingveno> It's a graphic frontend to the Ubuntu package installer
[09:34] <jaro> hm I like Kynaptics too
[09:34] <apokryphos> kynaptic is absolutely awful
[09:34] <apokryphos> adept is good though
[09:35] <aftertaf> i like apt :)
[09:35] <luke_> how do i install clamav
[09:35] <Overand> why does ubuntu still have a /etc/debian_version
[09:35] <luke_> i extracted the folder
[09:35] <Overand> is it used by the apt system?
[09:35] <aftertaf> luke_: do you want the clck and play version, or the type in shell version?
[09:35] <jaro> the only bad thing about kynaptic is the way it DOESNT display when it actually makes
[09:35] <luke_> now i got folder on desktop called clamav-0.88.2
[09:35] <apokryphos> Overand: debian conventions
[09:35] <luke_> difference?
[09:35] <Overand> seems somewhat like an unneccesary throwback
[09:35] <nickrud> Overand, no it's a holdover, like /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[09:35] <luke_> difference?
[09:35] <aftertaf> luke_: because there you got the source code, and thats a whole other baby
[09:35] <apokryphos> Overand: it is still a tightly linked debian-based distribution
[09:35] <luke_> what is better?
[09:36] <Overand> oh, i'm aware it's debian based
[09:36] <apokryphos> Overand: it syncs back to debian every release cycle
[09:36] <Overand> i moved to ubuntu *from* debian on most of my boxes
[09:36] <aftertaf> luke_:  same result. one is clicking, one is typing
[09:36] <Overand> apokryphos: really?
[09:36] <luke_> clicking pls
[09:36] <apokryphos> yes
[09:36] <Overand> that I *didn't* know
[09:36] <luke_> i like lcikcking
[09:36] <luke_> lol
[09:36] <Overand> but there's no /etc/ubuntu_version
[09:36] <nickrud> syncs to unstable
[09:36] <Overand> heh
[09:36] <luke_> click and play version
[09:36] <aftertaf> luke_: ok, find and open synaptic in your applications menu
[09:36] <Overand> hm
[09:36] <Overand> yeah, i wasn't sure what the process was
[09:36] <luke_> i saw that in install other apps
[09:37] <nickrud> Overand, /etc/lsb-release
[09:37] <Overand> so, if somehow the 'debian foundation' were to 'collapse' then ubuntu would be in a bad place
[09:37] <aftertaf> no
[09:37] <Overand> granted i know that debian's development is decentralized
[09:37] <nickrud> Overand, definitely. 1000 vs about 100 ?
[09:37] <luke_> ill install it
[09:37] <aftertaf> theyd continue with their latest ubuntu as a base for the rest
[09:37] <nickrud> or less?
[09:37] <Overand> yeah fair enough
[09:37] <aftertaf> :)
[09:38] <luke_> can u spell it correctly? ill search for it
[09:38] <Overand> but it would require a serious change to the way it's developed
[09:38] <Overand> well
[09:38] <aftertaf> luke_: what is 'it' ?
[09:38] <aftertaf> synaptic ?
[09:38] <luke_> yeah
[09:38] <Overand> what would probably happen is the deb maintainers would move to ubuntu
[09:38] <luke_> symnaptic
[09:38] <Overand> (not that that's happening...)
[09:38] <aftertaf> synaptic
[09:38] <aftertaf> don't you have it? sure?
[09:38] <dell500> ok, so i just found out that my mobo only supports 2 SATA (2 are currently on there on RAID0)
[09:38] <luke_> yeah im gonna add it
[09:39] <aftertaf> luke_:  open a console..... tell me when its open.
[09:39] <Seveas> mornin' all
[09:39] <Overand> Is there still a general bad feeling among some people in the debian community about ubuntu and the possibility of 'impure' packages, ubuntu packages that don't work on debian, and the general brain-drain from debian, or has that sort of subsided?
[09:39] <aftertaf> hi Seveas long time no type ;)
[09:39] <Overand> I'm NOT trying to start a debate
[09:39] <Seveas> aftertaf, heh, I'm a busy guy 
[09:39] <Overand> just trying to understand the culture somewhat
[09:39] <aftertaf> lol
[09:40] <cafuego_> liar
[09:40] <aftertaf> Seveas: yeah and i was away from irc for 4 months ;)
[09:40] <Seveas> Overand, debian, as alway, is quite filled with egos. There will always be people who hate Ubuntu
[09:40] <blaze> nickrud, are you here =)
[09:40] <nickrud> blaze, yup
[09:40] <Overand> Seveas: ALL distros are filled with egos
[09:40] <blaze> nickrud, thank you for helping me
[09:40] <Overand> heh
[09:40] <nickrud> blaze, you're ok then
[09:40] <blaze> i installed the flashplayer and all works
[09:40] <blaze> but.. will you tell me how did you do that? =D
[09:40] <luke_> synaptic is a package manager
[09:40] <nickrud> Thank god for the debian egos :)
[09:40] <Overand> but yeah
[09:41] <Overand> I mean, it's been a long-running distro
[09:41] <blaze> i mean.. where did you get that sources* file
[09:41] <Overand> and it's a good distro!
[09:41] <Overand> I like it!
[09:41] <blaze> that is working :D
[09:41] <pingveno> luke_: have you done anything with the command line?
[09:41] <blaze> ?
[09:41] <Overand> That's the thing
[09:41] <luke_> no
[09:41] <Overand> It's not like
[09:41] <aftertaf> luke_ yes
[09:41] <pingveno> Ah
[09:41] <Overand> 'KILL DEBIAN, MOVE TO UBUNTU'
[09:41] <luke_> man this comp is lagging
[09:41] <Overand> diversity is good
[09:41] <blaze> nickrud, m? =)
[09:41] <nickrud> blaze, it's referenced below (made by someone)
[09:41] <salmiak_> i want them both to co-exist
[09:41] <nickrud> !repos
[09:41] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:41] <salmiak_> :)
[09:41] <Overand> and projects that use other projects are fine
[09:41] <luke_> 700mhz proseser 256 mb ram
[09:41] <Overand> salmiak_: that's my hope
[09:41] <Overand> but i have a feeling that debian is losing market share
[09:42] <Overand> almost everyone i know who used debian has moved to ubuntu and ubuntu-server
[09:42] <salmiak_> they got their market - servers - right?
[09:42] <blaze> oh, cool =)
[09:42] <salmiak_> darn :/
[09:42] <blaze> 10x
[09:42] <aftertaf> luke_: eithern open synaptic, if you have it, or open a console, and let us know when you've done either
[09:42] <Overand> heh
[09:42] <DUMAiSO> !easysource
[09:42] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:42] <Overand> salmiak_: i moved from debian to ubuntu-server
[09:42] <salmiak_> it worked better than debian? ;P
[09:42] <Overand> the defaut configuration options were far too sane and the packages far too up-to-date for me to NOT do that
[09:43] <luke_> k
[09:43] <Overand> salmiak_: i'm running a prerelease of dapper on my ubuntu-server machine, and it's *great*
[09:43] <Overand> I've had zero problems with it once i got it installed
[09:43] <salmiak_> i'm running dapper as desktop OS right now, and i've had no probs
[09:43] <Overand> I had a problem with the installer when I tried to use XFS as the root filesystem
[09:43] <nseltzer> What package do I need to install for to create a /build directory off of the uname -r directory?
[09:43] <Overand> but apparently XFS and grub don't always get along, from what i've heard
[09:44] <Overand> I'm using a 3ware hardware RAID 1 card too
[09:44] <Overand> everything has worked very well
[09:44] <pingveno> Gotta love the console. So handy, but not exactly friendly to new users. (It took me about a month to understand it) :-P
[09:44] <Overand> all problems i've had on that machine have been PEBKAC
[09:44] <Overand> heh
[09:44] <salmiak_> the only problem i got is apt-getting build-dep wine
[09:44] <Overand> i find the fconsole much more friendly than a gui
[09:44] <Overand> but to each his own
[09:44] <Overand> the console and the unix filesystem are *largely* consistent
[09:44] <Overand> or the variation is within a very limited range
[09:45] <nseltzer> What package do I need to install for to create a /build directory off of the uname -r directory?
[09:45] <Overand> "help might be -h or it might be -?, sometimes it's just --help"
[09:45] <blaze> nickrud, and what was the line for updating the list :) ?
[09:45] <Overand> "and usually all 3 will work, but not always"
[09:45] <nickrud> blaze, sudo apt-get update updates your package list
[09:45] <Overand> subtle stuff like that
[09:45] <Overand> there are non-standard console apps that do weird stuff, of course, but in general, it's great
[09:46] <blaze> thank you =)
[09:46] <aftertaf> luke_: you done that yet?
[09:46] <nickrud> blaze, yw
[09:47] <nickrud> blaze, now that you have the repos all in order, from the top menu bar: Sytem->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager is your friend
[09:48] <dell500> if my mobo only has 2 channels for SATA, can a third be added to backup the 2 sata's in raid0?
[09:48] <blaze> :D
[09:48] <djrandom> morning all :)
[09:52] <nseltzer> djrandom, morning
[09:53] <lss> Hello. How do I network my ubuntu to my mepis machine?
[09:53] <pingveno> It's a little late here on the west coast...
[09:53] <pingveno> good night
[09:53] <aftertaf> night
[09:53] <nseltzer> it's even later in the midwest :P
[09:53] <nseltzer> muahahaha :p
[09:55] <jaro> its morning here
[09:55] <salmiak_> 09.55 here
[09:55] <intuos_pen> today is May 11 2006, 3:55PM here.
[09:55] <salmiak_> Sweden, gmt+1
[09:55] <nseltzer> 2:55 AM here
[09:55] <nseltzer> Nebraska, USA
[09:56] <jaro> Oh noo
[09:56] <jaro> I managed to move my taskbar
[09:56] <jaro> now i can only see the last bit of it
[09:57] <salmiak_> huh
[09:57] <jaro> its gray, where the taskbar used to be
[09:57] <jaro> and it starts at the top
[09:57] <jaro> but the rest is unvisible
[09:57] <jaro> now its on the right side
[09:57] <jaro> and visible
[09:59] <HIGH-FREQ> anyone know of any good programs that is similar to wifi-radar
[10:01] <AlmtyBob> anyone here play Angband? how do you get multiple terminals?
[10:02] <intuos_pen> hi, anyone here knows how to fix Evolution email client that starts again on "Evolution Setup Assistant" even though it was already been regularly used for some time and an email account is already configured and the directories ~/.evolution/ ,  ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/ , and ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution already and still exists?
[10:02] <HIGH-FREQ> intuos_pen: not too sure..but u might have to remove that .evolution
[10:05] <phuz> is there a custom install with package selection?
[10:05] <intuos_pen> HIGH-FREQ: will it remove my already setup addresses and contact list and my configured email account?
[10:06] <dli> phuz, is there an expert mode?
[10:06] <HIGH-FREQ> intuos_pen: yes...but u should back it up first...like do  cp .evolution .evolution_backup   or somethin
[10:06] <HIGH-FREQ> errr  cp -R .evolution .evolution_backup
[10:07] <phuz> dli: perfect
[10:07] <intuos_pen> HIGH-FREQ: yay, what i want to do is to revert back to my working Evolution configuration.
[10:07] <HIGH-FREQ> ya just try that....unless if someone else has somethin better
[10:08] <HIGH-FREQ> well...bbl...
[10:08] <HIGH-FREQ> gotta jet real quick...
[10:10] <iBalo> anyone running ubuntu on apple hardware in here? I'll have to put ubuntu on a late imac G3 (dv, 400Mhz) in the near future and could use some info on how much RAM is advisable to buy, and if there are any points to look after. E.g. does this 8GB limit for the first partition apply?
[10:10] <ohzie> What's a good package to let me watch quicktime .mov's?
[10:10] <eggzeck> iBalo, you don't need that much RAM
[10:10] <ohzie> !quicktime
[10:10] <ubotu> hmm... quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[10:11] <eggzeck> iBalo, how much does it currently have?
[10:11] <iBalo> So it's got 128MB now... i think its 2x 64 MB, so i thought i'll put 256 in
[10:12] <eggzeck> iBalo, 8GB HD is good enough for Ubuntu, 128 is fine also :)
[10:12] <eggzeck> iBalo, though 256MB is better
[10:14] <c0lored> its so dead in the dapper help channle :(
[10:14] <lucas> hi
[10:14] <dli> iBalo, 128 is usually too small :(
[10:14] <lucas> any idea of software that allows to draw histograms from the command line ?
[10:14] <dli> lucas, gnuplot
[10:15] <iBalo> So there's a 13 GB hdd in it. Do i have to partiton it? Or can i use one big part?. My experiences with x86 ubuntu make me fell the 256MB RAM will be  ok.
[10:16] <aeolus> Hi, Does anyone know of a working "sources.list" for Ubuntu Breezy?
[10:16] <dli> iBalo, one swap, and one /
[10:16] <eggzeck> iBalo, are you dual booting?
[10:16] <dli> !ubotu tell aeolus about easysource
[10:16] <aeolus> thank you, dli
[10:16] <iBalo> No, there's currently OS9 on it, which will be scrapped due the lack of drivers for some hardware the customer has
[10:16] <cracko> well i was making a back up of my / so i copyed /* to my sata storage hard drive.. now for some reason my storage hard drive stays mounted as read only any ideas?
[10:17] <eggzeck> iBalo, then just let the install cd do everything :)
[10:17] <eggzeck> iBalo, use the guided partitioning when installing
[10:17] <mwe> cracko: you probably need to mount it differently. what fs is it?
[10:17] <dli> cracko, check you dmesg/syslog for errors
[10:18] <iBalo> So you macies would say that it's a no-brainer when you know your way around on x86-ubuntu?
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> iBalo: try booting with a ppc livecd
[10:18] <eggzeck> iBalo, yes, and it will work just fine
[10:19] <aeolus> Also, is there a way to "sudo" without using the terminal?
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> iBalo: or use something more suited for that environment, like ydl.
[10:19] <cracko> dli: all kinds of errors in dmesg
[10:19] <iBalo> Nice one! Any particular hints on multimedia-support on ppc?
[10:19] <cracko> dli: EXT3-fs error (device sdb1): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block - inode=19234878, block=38469635
[10:19] <eggzeck> aeolus, synaptic
[10:19] <aeolus> oh
[10:19] <eggzeck> fyrestrtr, what are you talking about?
[10:20] <cracko> when i ls storage i get ls: aaalogo120.zip: Input/output error
[10:20] <recyclebin> hi
[10:20] <dli> cracko, close applications using it, umount it, and fsck it
[10:20] <dushy> hello all :)
[10:20] <recyclebin> ..
[10:20] <dushy> can any one tell me plz why i am not able to view the video file.. tho i can hear only voice?
[10:21] <cracko> dli: how do you recommend me fsck it?
[10:21] <eggzeck> dushy, what kind of video file?
[10:21] <dushy> eggzeck.. from internet for eg.
[10:22] <eggzeck> dushy, "from internet" isn't a type of video file.
[10:22] <blaze> how can i End Prosess in linux? :)
[10:22] <dli> cracko, depends, if your data is critical, make a disk image now, if not, "e2fsck -p -f /dev/sdablah"
[10:22] <eggzeck> dushy, anyways, install w32codecs
[10:22] <blaze> like the three keys combination
[10:22] <eggzeck> blaze, kill PID
[10:22] <dushy> i mean. i can download some videos from the internet.. but wnen i play it .. i can hear only the voice...
[10:22] <eggzeck> blaze, read about kill with "man kill"
[10:22] <blaze> ok =)
[10:22] <blaze> 10x
[10:22] <dushy> none of the formats its not accepting...
[10:23] <cracko> dli: it is critical information 160 gigs of it
[10:23] <recyclebin> sync
[10:23] <iBalo> !restricted
[10:23] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:23] <eggzeck> dushy, do you have w32codecs installed?
[10:23] <dushy> eggzeck.. i have to install w32codes from internet?
[10:23] <recyclebin> sorry for typos
[10:23] <dushy> i dont know ... :(
[10:23] <mwe> blaze: or use killall <process name>
[10:23] <eggzeck> dushy, no, in your ubuntu terminal
[10:23] <iBalo> dushy, the 'restricted' was menat fot you
[10:23] <mwe> blaze: ps aux or top to show the processes running
[10:23] <eggzeck> dushy, yes read what ubotu linked
[10:24] <iBalo> *dushy, the 'restricted' was meant for you*
[10:24] <dushy> ok.. let me check.. wait plz
[10:24] <recyclebin> iBalo, are you sure?
[10:24] <dli> cracko, umount it, find another disk (larger), make a disk image of if first
[10:24] <cracko> dli: what do you think caused the disk to be currupted me copying so many files to it?
[10:24] <dli> cracko, it's could be a hardware problem
[10:24] <variant> i need to install screen, sshd and nmap on ubuntu 5.10 live cd with 190MB ram.. is that gonna work?
[10:24] <dushy> eggzeck.. it says command not found
[10:25] <eggzeck> dushy, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[10:25] <dushy> ibalo restricted? i didnt get u
[10:25] <eggzeck> ubotu tell dushy about restricted
[10:25] <blaze> thank you very much mwe
[10:25] <blaze> =)
[10:25] <cracko> dli: could it of horked the hard drive when i copyed /* to it because i was not thinkin and /mnt/ was in it
[10:25] <cracko> dli: so i was copying data from /mnt/storage to /mnt/storage
[10:25] <dushy> eggzeck.. i am very new to linux.. so i dont know much of the technical part. .can u simplify me plz
[10:25] <mwe> w32codecs is in the ubuntu mirrors ?! I had to dl a .deb manually and sudo dpkg -i it
[10:26] <eggzeck> mwe, not me :)
[10:26] <iBalo> dushy, i told the bot to spit out a link to a wiki page which has info about playing back cpyright-restricted multimedia-formats on ubuntu#
[10:26] <dli> cracko, if you used "cp", it's fine, cp doesn't cp the same file by default
[10:26] <eggzeck> dushy, yes, please read what ubotu messaged you with
[10:26] <recyclebin> mwe, is w32codes in the older distro CD?
[10:26] <mwe> recyclebin: I think not
[10:26] <cracko> dli: what did you mean by make a disc image?
[10:26] <mwe> recyclebin: it's copyrighted
[10:26] <recyclebin> oh
[10:27] <cracko> just coy all my files to the new hard drive?
[10:27] <eggzeck> mwe, you just need the right repos
[10:27] <cracko> copy*
[10:27] <dli> cracko, next time, set up rsnapshot to backup
[10:27] <mwe> eggzeck: myabe some unofficail mirror has it
[10:27] <dli> cracko, like, "dd if=/dev/sda of=/path/to/disk-image.img"
[10:27] <cracko> dli: why would it matter though i could just copy all the files over right?
[10:28] <eggzeck> mwe, yes, it's unofficial, but I believe Dapper has it in their default repos
[10:28] <recyclebin> o.o
[10:28] <eggzeck> because I didn't have to add anything to find w32codecs
[10:28] <recyclebin> why?
[10:28] <dli> cracko, if you used simple, "cp", it shouldn't happen
[10:28] <mwe> eggzeck: no
[10:28] <dushy> Ubuntu says he cannot understand what i am talking about.
[10:29] <mwe> eggzeck: it doesn't it's not free
[10:29] <cracko> dli: i used cp -aai or whatever saved the permissions
[10:29] <mwe> eggzeck: I'm running dapper
[10:29] <eggzeck> mwe, so am I
[10:29] <mwe> eggzeck: could you provide a link to the mirror? bacause what ubotu links to is a .deb, not a ubuntu mirror
[10:29] <dushy> any one still want to give a help plz?
[10:29] <eggzeck> mwe, hang on
[10:30] <recyclebin> no
[10:30] <recyclebin> none
[10:30] <dushy> i guess no one at the moment.. so i will come later :(
[10:30] <aftertaf> dusy
[10:30] <aftertaf> whats the pb?
[10:30] <dli> cracko, certain directories you shouldn't cp, /dev, /proc, /sys
[10:31] <mwe> eggzeck: we need to update the factoid
[10:31] <recyclebin> well, bbl for the money
[10:31] <dushy> aftertaf.. i cant view video files though i can only hear them ..
[10:31] <cracko> dli: so copying /dev /proc /sys to my other hard drive could have messed it up?
[10:31] <aftertaf> ok. with all software?
[10:31] <eggzeck> mwe, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[10:31] <lecon> hi?
[10:31] <lss> How do I find out what my network card is called so I can get the driver for it?
[10:31] <dli> cracko, not sure about it :( I hope not
[10:31] <aftertaf> lspci dli
[10:31] <dushy> i want all the video formats to be running..
[10:32] <aftertaf> er lss i meant
[10:32] <eggzeck> mwe, that contains w32codecs and libdvdcss2
[10:32] <dli> lss, check dmesg
[10:32] <mwe> eggzeck: oh marrilat. I was adviced not to use that though
[10:32] <lecon> can anyoe helme with my sounddriver?
[10:32] <iBalo> so what do the PPC-people do, btw, to get around without w32codecs?
[10:32] <eggzeck> mwe, why? I have no problems with it
[10:32] <dushy> ok.. any first step settings from my side?
[10:32] <cracko> dli: if that is the case then i am really sad
[10:32] <aftertaf> dushy: what have you installed up to now, codec wise
[10:32] <eggzeck> iBalo, nothing, I couldn't do anything
[10:33] <lecon> can anyone help me with my sound???
[10:33] <dushy> aftertaf.. thats the problem i dont know much of the technical and only from 5 days i am using linux.. i am a non technical guy and dont know much about it :(
[10:33] <aftertaf> !restricted
[10:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:33] <aftertaf> dushy newbieness is not an excuse, its a strating point ;)
[10:33] <aftertaf> starting...
[10:33] <dushy> but i have downloaded all the required live updates 2 days back
[10:33] <eggzeck> mwe, you want to know what's extremely weird though, is that I have it commented out, and even did a apt-get update, and I can still install w32codecs
[10:33] <aftertaf> dushy, read the above wiki ^^^^^^
[10:33] <dushy> yep aftertaf i believe in it.. but starting needs time right?
[10:33] <iBalo> eggzeck: so vlc would be the best bet? If vlc can't handle it, you're out of luck...
[10:34] <mwe> eggzeck: i  think because it's a debian mirror and some things could break though codecs are probably ok to install
[10:34] <eggzeck> mwe, yes, I only used that for w32codecs
[10:34] <aftertaf> dushy, things take more time, that is right... :)
[10:34] <dushy> ubuntu gave me the link.. but i dont know what to download there..
[10:34] <eggzeck> iBalo, yupp, but you can't get much done without certain codecs
[10:34] <ajax4> Good Morning, Ubuntuans!
[10:34] <dushy> gm eggzeck
[10:34] <dushy> ajax4 gm
[10:35] <iBalo> !plf
[10:35] <ubotu> I heard plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[10:35] <aftertaf> dushy: have you enabled universe & multiverse for apt?
[10:35] <eggzeck> mwe, would you happen to know why is that?
[10:35] <aftertaf> dushy. pm?
[10:35] <dushy> ok aftertaf..
[10:36] <aftertaf> dushy:  you get my pm?
[10:36] <dushy> aftertaf i  am in the pm.. can u see me?
[10:36] <mwe> eggzeck: I don't know why
[10:36] <drcode> hi akll
[10:36] <drcode> all
[10:37] <dushy> yep i got it.. but u are not replying back
[10:37] <drcode> any one know good and fast program like vmware in linux
[10:37] <aftertaf> dushy; hang on 2 secs.
[10:37] <eggzeck> mwe, so shouldn't that mean that one of the repos have w32codes? (Dapper ones)
[10:37] <aftertaf> brb
[10:37] <drcode> that work like vmware?
[10:37] <dushy> ok aftertaf
[10:38] <mwe> eggzeck: I think they dont
[10:38] <aftertaf> dushy, if not, have you registered to freenode?
[10:38] <eggzeck> mwe, so why can I install it? (with all unofficial repos commented out)
[10:38] <lecon> hi!can anyone help with my sound settings?
[10:38] <aftertaf> dushy if not go to #dushy
[10:39] <dushy> nop i dont think os afertaf
[10:39] <aftertaf> type /join #dushy
[10:39] <drcode> any idea for vmware in opensource?
[10:39] <dushy> gone there
[10:39] <dli> drcode, xen
[10:39] <mutante> drcode: FreeMWare
[10:39] <mwe> !info w32codecs
[10:39] <drcode> it work with same process like vmware?
[10:39] <ejdolf> If I have two servers running webservers on port 80 (a.com and b.com) behind a firewall, is there any http-proxy which makes it possible to for the firewall to forward all requests to that proxy and then the proxy forwards the connections to the correct destination?
[10:39] <aftertaf> lol drcode :)
[10:39] <drcode> k
[10:40] <drcode> thnx
[10:40] <mwe> eggzeck: I don't know maybe I'm mistaken
[10:40] <drcode> I Will check it out
[10:40] <haboy> can i ask for help??
[10:40] <eggzeck> mwe, would you like to see my sources.list?
[10:40] <mutante> drcode: it has been renamed from "FreeMWare" to "plex86" i see
[10:40] <haboy> eggzeck can i ask for help??
[10:40] <RayFredPip> haboy, : )
[10:40] <eggzeck> haboy, if I can help I will
[10:41] <haboy> anyone can i ask for help
[10:41] <drcode> thanx
[10:41] <mutante> drcode: http://plex86.sourceforge.net/  should be it
[10:41] <haboy> ok tnx
[10:41] <haboy> her it is
[10:41] <RayFredPip> haboy, show me your problem
[10:41] <eggzeck> haboy, if my knowledge isn't limited
[10:41] <haboy> i'm very new in ubuntu
[10:41] <haboy> i cant install the yahoo messenger
[10:41] <haboy> the sudo apt-get won't work on me
[10:41] <eggzeck> my knowledge is limited
[10:42] <eggzeck> haboy, use gaim
[10:42] <haboy> even the skype
[10:42] <eggzeck> haboy, it can do yahoo
[10:42] <haboy> i havent used gaim yet
[10:42] <haboy> whats with gaim
[10:42] <eggzeck> haboy, Applications->Internet->Gaim Instant Messenger
[10:43] <jaro> I wish there was something like StyleXP for Linux
[10:43] <eggzeck> jaro, ...
[10:43] <jaro> ?
[10:43] <eggzeck> jaro, gnome-look.org
[10:43] <jaro> its not the same
[10:43] <salmiak_> gdesklets?
[10:43] <jaro> Plaque will never be replacable
[10:43] <haboy> anyone here who knows how to install the skype??
[10:44] <salmiak_> what's plaque, jaro ?
[10:44] <eggzeck> haboy, why aren't you just doing what I said?
[10:44] <jaro> its a styleXP theme
[10:44] <jaro> its awesome
[10:44] <jaro> it made me stick to windows considering design
[10:44] <eggzeck> jaro, this is for you
[10:44] <eggzeck> !offtopic
[10:44] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:44] <feugan3333> Hi all. Is it safe to install a package from source that is newer than a package already installed from the repository?
[10:44] <jaro> its not offtopic, i as asking for something similar
[10:45] <ajax4> Anyone on here running the betas of Dapper with XGL? If so, hows it working?
[10:45] <eggzeck> jaro, syaing that StylesXP is awesome and talking about it is offtopic
[10:45] <ferronica> hello people
[10:45] <ajax4> ferronica: hello
[10:45] <ferronica> ajax4: Hi
[10:46] <ferronica> ajax4: do u know how to change page style
[10:46] <salmiak_> jaro, the closest is probably gnome-look.org :)
[10:46] <ferronica> ajax4: i mean web page style, character
[10:46] <jaro> kde-look.org
[10:46] <harry> hey guys nid help please
[10:46] <eggzeck> salmiak_, I told him about that, yet he said it isn't the same. (Which boggles me)
[10:47] <eggzeck> kde-look.org is for kde not gnome
[10:47] <jaro> <- using kubuntu
[10:47] <eggzeck> so that would be in #kubuntu
[10:47] <salmiak_> jaro, ok then ;)
[10:47] <jaro> ^^
[10:47] <ajax4> ferronica: I don't understand your question. Please be very specific.
[10:47] <ajax4> harry: you want to use Yahoo Messenger?
[10:48] <salmiak_> ferronica, he means charset?
[10:48] <salmiak_> i think
[10:48] <eggzeck> ajax4, doesn't Gaim do Yahoo?
[10:48] <salmiak_> gaim does yahoo, eggzeck ;)
[10:48] <ajax4> eggzeck: it does, but I think he is confused because the program is different.
[10:48] <ferronica> ajax4: if u see ur firefox browser, and comapare it with windows browser, ubuntu brpwser character r some bigger
[10:48] <eggzeck> ajax4, yes, I was going to show him how to use it, but he never replied
[10:49] <ferronica> ajax4: i wanna make them some small
[10:49] <harry> yes i want to use it
[10:49] <ferronica> ajax4: i think it is in ARIAL style
[10:49] <salmiak_> ferronica, ctrl + scrollwheel
[10:49] <ajax4> ferronica: You can change the text size in the Firefox preferences.
[10:49] <harry> how do you do the red text messages whats with it
[10:49] <eggzeck> harry, oh your nick changed... Then go to Applications->Internet->Gaim Internet Messenger
[10:49] <HalverHahn> hallo
[10:49] <harry> thats my real name
[10:49] <HalverHahn> hab nkleines Prob mit dem CDROM
[10:50] <phuz> anyone know howto handle grub error 17 after install?
[10:50] <eggzeck> harry, now add a yahoo account to it, then sign in
[10:50] <harry> i cant sign in
[10:51] <ajax4> ferronica: you need to know exactly where to look in Firefox to change font size?
[10:51] <harry> its sez my account is suspended, but i havent done anything yet
[10:51] <HalverHahn> kann jemand ne Frage benatworten zu: CDROM mount/umount ?
[10:51] <ompaul> harry, talk to yahoo
[10:51] <salmiak_> gah, what's wrong with 'ctrl + scroll wheel' to change font size?? ;D
[10:51] <harry> what??
[10:51] <ajax4> HalverHahn: this is an english language channel.
[10:52] <eggzeck> harry, there should be an "Accounts" button, click it
[10:52] <eggzeck> harry, when the Accounts panel shows up, click Add
[10:52] <eggzeck> harry, then you'll see a "Protocol" section, choose Yahoo from the list
[10:53] <harry> ok thn nxt??
[10:53] <eggzeck> harry, and all the rest should be self explanatory
[10:53] <eggzeck> harry, such as "Screen Name", "Password", etc.
[10:53] <harry> but why does it says my account is blocked
[10:53] <eggzeck> how should I know?
[10:54] <ferronica> ajax4: Ok can i change ubuntu character also
[10:54] <harry> what should my password be
[10:54] <harry> anything new???
[10:54] <blaze> why is the xine player playing my movie so bad?
[10:54] <harry> or the one i use on the yahoo account
[10:54] <blaze> i mean.. it's sticky
[10:54] <theorem_hunter> can any one give advice about kernels
[10:54] <eggzeck> harry, your password and everything would be the same.
[10:54] <ferronica> ajax4: bcoz they r too big, Icons r also so big
[10:55] <cbear> Hello.  I have a box that was originally installed with an IDE drive and a SATA drive installed.  Ubuntu is exclusively on the SATA drive - the IDE was an old XP drive.  The IDE drive has now been removed, and now the machine does not boot (hangs before grub message - no attempt to bot at all.).  Assuming the drive config is messed up, I ran "grub-install /dev/sda" from a live CD, but I get this error:  "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot doe
[10:55] <cbear> s not have any corresponding BIOS drive."  Can anone help?
[10:55] <ajax4> ferronica: Yes, you change them in your gnome font settings. I'm not currently running Ubuntu so maybe someone else who is can tell you exactly where.
[10:55] <blaze> can someone help me with xine?
[10:55] <ferronica> ajax4: where is gnome settings???
[10:56] <eggzeck> cbear, sounds like you need to go into BIOS and fix it
[10:56] <cbear> eggzeck, Someone else suggested that - what exactly am I "fixing" in the BIOS?
[10:56] <ajax4> ferronica: Start menus...I don't know exactly where since I'm not running Ubuntu right now. But its a GNOME setting.
[10:57] <harry> eggzeck
[10:57] <harry> what now??
[10:57] <salmiak_> ferronica, "start"->system->preferences i thikn
[10:57] <salmiak_> think
[10:57] <blaze> when i try to open a video file mplayer tells me Couldn't open /dev/3dfx
[10:57] <blaze> , where is the problem?
[10:57] <harry> should my password in the gaim be the saim in the yahoo website
[10:57] <eggzeck> cbear, you'll be disabling that drive
[10:58] <ferronica> ok fonts
[10:58] <ferronica> got it
[10:58] <salmiak_> :D
[10:58] <eggzeck> cbear, just as if you were disabling a built in graphics card so that you can use an external (PCI) one.
[10:59] <raphaa> which printer-driver i gotta use for "canon i455x"??? HLP!!!
[10:59] <cbear> eggzeck, Those disks are on auto - they disable themselves, afaik...  What device does casper-snapshot refer to?
[10:59] <cbear> eggzeck, so, IDE-with-SATA just works, but if I remove the IDE, some other settings hav to be changed?
[11:00] <harry> hey eggzeck what's the next step after i've logged in the yahoo website
[11:00] <harry> the gaim is still not workin??
[11:01] <ajax4> harry: you may want to the read the gaim FAQ here: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php
[11:01] <theorem_hunter> is there a gnome text to speech app?
[11:02] <harry> thnx
[11:02] <ctear> Hello.  I have a box that was originally installed with an IDE drive and a SATA drive installed.  Ubuntu is exclusively on the SATA drive - the IDE was an old XP drive.  The IDE drive has now been removed, and now the machine does not boot (hangs before grub message - no attempt to boot at all.).
[11:02] <ferronica> ajax4: but ICONS size r not changing???
[11:02] <ctear> Assuming the drive config is messed up, I ran "grub-install /dev/sda" from a live CD, but I get this error:  "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."  Can anyne help?
[11:02] <ferronica> ajax4: DESKTOP icons, they r much bigger
[11:03] <ajax4> ferronica: Well, you changed the gnome FONT setting...that wouldn't affect the icons. There is a way to change the icons...hang on.
[11:03] <cbear> Oh, sorry - did not raize this was the same channel as freenode.
[11:03] <ferronica> ajax4: OKAY
[11:03] <cbear> s/raize/realize/
[11:03] <ferronica> ajax4: what linux r u using??? something different...
[11:04] <ajax4> ferronica: Right now Mandriva...but both using gnome. Go to the same place where you found the gnome prefs...instead of font do you see one "File Management"?
[11:05] <ferronica> ajax4: yes
[11:05] <mbainrot> hi
[11:05] <mbainrot> does anyone know how to install the novell client on linux
[11:05] <ajax4> ferronica: select that...then go to Default Zoom Level for the icons...change it to something lower.
[11:07] <aftertaf> !backports
[11:07] <ubotu> from memory, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:07] <ferronica> ajax4: Ok done
[11:07] <mwe> eggzeck: sudo apt-get -s install --reinstall w32codecs does not work on my dapper
[11:07] <ferronica> ajax4: much better
[11:07] <ajax4> ferronica: did it change your icon size on the desktop?
[11:08] <mwe> eggzeck: it says it can't dl it
[11:08] <ferronica> ajax4: ya some better
[11:08] <ajax4> ferronica: good :)
[11:08] <ferronica> ajax4: from u hav prdered the mandrive CD
[11:08] <ferronica> ajax4: can u give me the link please
[11:08] <ajax4> ferronica: the link for what?
[11:09] <mwe> eggzeck: I think that's because it's not in my mirrors
[11:11] <koroded> I can't get java going.  http://textsnippets.com/posts/show/246  and others say to sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common    but java-package isn't found
[11:11] <ferronica> ajax4: To oreder mandrive CD
[11:12] <ferronica> ajax4: To order mandrive CD :)
[11:12] <ajax4> ferronica: nah, forget about Mandriva...Ubuntu is better. I'm switching over in 2 weeks when the next version of Ubuntu comes out.
[11:13] <jaro> dapper is already available
[11:13] <jaro> im upgrading right now
[11:13] <ajax4> jaro: I thought the final release version would not be out until June 1?
[11:13] <visik7> when I've upgraded to dapper X didn't run anyomre
[11:13] <visik7> ajax4: u are right
[11:14] <jaro> i dunno.. i included the repositories and upgrade
[11:14] <harry> at last i've used the gaim
[11:15] <harry> does anyone here knows how to install the skype
[11:15] <harry> i've just started linux today
[11:15] <luke__> how do i install clamav?
[11:15] <harry> how do i install skype???
[11:15] <visik7> use the wiki
[11:15] <harry> or install xmms
[11:15] <visik7> use the forum
[11:15] <luke__> how do i install clamav?
[11:15] <harry> WIKI???
[11:15] <ferronica1> i hav just downloded and saved the flash player for firefox now how to install it???
[11:15] <visik7> and use synaptic
[11:16] <harry> the wiki instructions doesnt work
[11:16] <luke__> how do i install clam av?
[11:16] <aftertaf> luke__, open synaptic and select it... or type sudo apt-get install clamav in a console.
[11:16] <harry> they say the source of skype is closed??
[11:16] <topyli> luke__: apt-get install clamav. please don't flood
[11:16] <Tomcat__> ferronica: Install through synaptic, don't download manually.
[11:16] <blaze> how to install all the codecs for xine?
[11:16] <topyli> harry: it is
[11:16] <blaze> please help.. i got tired trying :)
[11:16] <visik7> harry: skype is on plf
[11:16] <Tomcat__> !tell blaze about restrictedformats
[11:16] <ferronica1> Tomcat__: but i hav already did, now how to install it
[11:16] <visik7> !restricted
[11:16] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:17] <harry> whats plf??
[11:17] <visik7> !FreeFormats
[11:17] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:17] <ajax4> !plf
[11:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[11:17] <visik7> harry: penguin liberation front
[11:17] <harry> can u giv me the source URL
[11:17] <salmiak_> rumour has it? :D
[11:17] <luke__> atp-get install clamav dosent work in terminal
[11:17] <visik7> harry: can u use your browser ?
[11:17] <harry> do i have to download it from there
[11:18] <visik7> luke__: why u want clamav ?
[11:18] <luke__> anti vuires
[11:18] <Tomcat__> ferronica: Open synaptic and install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:18] <visik7> luke__: do u have an mail server ?
[11:18] <luke__> can sombdy just telll me how?
[11:18] <salmiak_> visik7, me and some other ppl already talked with him about why he wants it. Just it :D it's something about his father and fright of viruses.
[11:18] <visik7> luke__: clamav is an antivirus for windows viruses linux hasn't viruses
[11:19] <salmiak_>  - just it
[11:19] <luke__> just tell me
[11:19] <aftertaf> luke__, open synaptic and select it.then click Apply.. or type sudo apt-get install clamav in a console.
[11:19] <aftertaf> we have told you like 20 times now
[11:19] <visik7> lukasz20:
[11:19] <visik7> luke__:
[11:19] <salmiak_> luke__, sudo apt-get install clamav
[11:19] <visik7> !universe
[11:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:19] <visik7> enable universe
[11:19] <salmiak_> ah, he needs universe...
[11:19] <visik7> and apt-get install it
[11:20] <ajax4> Anyone using XGL with the any versions of Dapper?
[11:20] <visik7> btw it's useless
[11:20] <visik7> ajax4: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:20] <luke__> sudo apt-get install clamav dosent work
[11:21] <salmiak_> luke, you need the universe repository... look at what ubotu said
[11:21] <visik7> !tell luke__ about universe
[11:21] <salmiak_> blarfg?
[11:21] <ferronica1> what u guys do in ubuntu??
[11:21] <harry> how do i install the XMMS using the terminal???
[11:21] <harry> how do i install the XMMS using the terminal???
[11:21] <ferronica1> using just for knowledge or what???
[11:21] <visik7> Hanna_:  apt-get install xmms
[11:21] <salmiak_> harry, sudo apt-get install xmms
[11:21] <ferronica1> harry: use VLC player
[11:22] <ferronica1> harry: no need of xmms
[11:22] <salmiak_> ferronica, listen to music, watch movies, chat, read news... ... ...
[11:22] <salmiak_> ferronica1, everything you can come up with, except gaming ;)
[11:22] <harry> why i dont nid it
[11:22] <biberao> hey how do i make munin work with auth digest ?
[11:23] <harry> the sudo apt-get install xmms wont work
[11:23] <ferronica1> sammiak_: Ok, for music what player do u use????
[11:23] <visik7> harry: define wont work
[11:23] <salmiak_> ferronica1, amaroK for music, and when i don't want the bloat amaroK has, i use xmms
[11:23] <harry> w8
[11:23] <ferronica1> sammiak_: hey can u send me ur desktop, screenshot, i wanna to see....
[11:23] <biberao> please
[11:24] <harry> haboy@px1:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install xmms
[11:24] <harry> Reading package lists... Done
[11:24] <harry> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:24] <harry> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:24] <harry> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:24] <harry> is only available from another source
[11:24] <harry> E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[11:24] <harry> haboy@px1:~/Desktop$
[11:24] <visik7> DON'T PQASTE HERE
[11:24] <harry> thats what shows
[11:24] <harry> sorry
[11:24] <salmiak_> ferronica1, uhm...you want to see what? the music player?
[11:24] <ferronica1> sammiak_: nope, ur desktop
[11:24] <visik7> harry: apt-get update works ?
[11:24] <harry> why do i see red txt from you
[11:24] <ferronica1> sammiak_: how u decorated it
[11:24] <mwe> !info xmms
[11:25] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[11:25] <visik7> harry: from me ?
[11:25] <harry> yes visik
[11:25] <blaze> Wich video driver to choose in mplayer in order to watch the movie in full screen?
[11:25] <visik7> harry: 'couse I type your nickname
[11:25] <zac> heello
[11:25] <harry> ok i'll do that also
[11:25] <visik7> blaze: xv
[11:25] <bjv> How can i boot my ubuntu partition from one of the CDs? i need to recover my grub install
[11:25] <ferronica1> sammiak_: hey, is there any bandwidth test for ubuntu, like we use in windowss????
[11:25] <mwe> harry: did you sudo apt-get update and is your sources.list sane?
[11:25] <blaze> xv X11/XV ?
[11:25] <salmiak_> ferronica1, like, tptest?
[11:26] <harry> visik7: the apt-get update says that could not open lock file
[11:26] <visik7> blaze: yes
[11:26] <blaze> Error initialising..
[11:26] <blaze> the selected video output..
[11:26] <visik7> harry: u have another program like synaptic opened
[11:26] <blaze> what to do?
[11:26] <harry> no
[11:26] <visik7> it's not a question
[11:26] <harry> visik7 no
[11:27] <salmiak_> hehe, ferronica1, i haven't done much to decorate it... but sure, i could post a screenie if you want...but i don't know if i want to post it in this channel...feels sort of offtopic for some reason
[11:27] <ferronica1> lol
[11:27] <harry> mwe: when i sudo apt-get update. it only says reading package list....done
[11:27] <ferronica1> sammiak_: Pm me there u send me
[11:27] <visik7> harry: another apt program is running
[11:27] <mwe> harry: is your sources.list ok?
[11:27] <ohzie> !quicktime
[11:27] <ubotu> quicktime is, like, totally, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[11:28] <harry> what do you mean my sources??
[11:28] <ferronica1> sammiak_: We r just exchanging our ideas, views thats it nothing OFFTOPIC
[11:28] <visik7> harry: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <mwe> harry: it says it can't find xmms, right? not that you don't have permission?
[11:28] <harry> visik7 how i'll know that
[11:28] <zm0> blaze: are you using the fglrx driver by any chance?
[11:28] <blaze> i don't know..
[11:28] <harry> what next
[11:28] <blaze> how to check?
[11:28] <mwe> harry: go to pastebin.com and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list then paste the url here
[11:29] <harry> a lot of text apeared
[11:29] <zm0> blaze: type lsmod |grep fglrx in a terminal
[11:29] <bjv> if i type  linux initrd=initrd.img ro root=/dev/sda1  will the ubutnu LiveCD boot my partition?
[11:29] <harry> mwe: the entire text???
[11:29] <bjv> i cant find any help via google on this
[11:29] <mwe> harry: yes
[11:29] <mwe> harry: the contents of that file
[11:29] <salmiak_> ferronica1, http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotofsalmiaksdesktop6im.jpg
[11:29] <biberao> munin anyone?
[11:29] <ohzie> Hey...I don't have any multiverse repositories
[11:30] <ohzie> Is there a way I can change that?
[11:30] <ompaul> !multiverse
[11:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:30] <blaze> nothing happens zm0
[11:30] <blaze> it's with a vertical line, right? ( | )
[11:30] <ferronica1> sammiak_: woww, how did u made like this
[11:31] <harry> where can i see my URL?? mwe
[11:31] <mwe> harry: on the page
[11:31] <ferronica1> sammiak_: like my computer ICON, folders
[11:31] <mwe> harry: after you submit it
[11:31] <harry> on what part. bottom, up???
[11:31] <ferronica1> let me send u mine screen shot
[11:32] <blaze> zm0, what should i do?
[11:32] <zm0> blaze: hmmm what graphics card do you have?
[11:32] <blaze> VIA Unichrome Pro
[11:32] <blaze> i think :)
[11:32] <mwe> harry: pastebin.com wont load for me atm
[11:33] <salmiak_> ah, ferronica1 , that's the icon set... http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=34680
[11:33] <ferronica1> j
[11:33] <mwe> !paste
[11:33] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[11:33] <mwe> harry: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ instead
[11:33] <ferronica1> sammiak_: accept the file, that i am sending u
[11:33] <salmiak_> ferronica1, upload your screenshot @ http://www.imageshack.us instead
[11:34] <mwe> harry: when you submit copy paste the url in the address bar
[11:34] <blaze> zm0, i can play the movie with x11 but it doesn't want ot go fullscreen
[11:34] <bjv> please, if you know. How can i boot my unbootable ubuntu install?
[11:34] <bjv> i have both a 5.10 install disk and a LiveCD
[11:34] <recyclebin> haru?
[11:34] <mwe> blaze: zoom in the config file I think
[11:34] <ompaul> blaze, sudo apt-get install xine and then run totem - its the quickest hack I can think of
[11:34] <p62> #ubuntu-ru
[11:35] <harry> mwe you have to be exact on where can i copy paste the URL coz i'm not familliar with it
[11:35] <recyclebin> ?
[11:35] <blaze> :) i'll try, ompaul
[11:35] <recyclebin> ha-ru?
[11:35] <harry> at list the closest place you could tell me mwe
[11:35] <dinamizador> ola
[11:35] <dinamizador> que tal
[11:35] <recyclebin> hahaha
[11:35] <ompaul> !es
[11:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:35] <ferronica1> ok i did
[11:35] <ferronica1> sammiak_: got
[11:35] <zm0> blaze: try gksudo gmplayer, does that work with xv?
[11:35] <recyclebin> bbl for rebooting
[11:36] <harry> mwe: ive clicked the send button and what i pasted i saw at the top
[11:36] <salmiak_> send me the link of that screenshot, then, ferronica1 :)
[11:36] <harry> mwe: still cant see the url
[11:36] <ferronica1> http://www.imageshack.us/index.php
[11:36] <mwe> harry: go to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list choose a name, submit. highlight the url in the address bar and go to irc and press the middle mouse button or both if you don't have a middle button
[11:36] <harry> ok
[11:36] <harry> : now i get it
[11:37] <salmiak_> ferronica1, no...when you uploaded the file, you got a page with alot of links for different uses, right? ;)
[11:37] <harry> mwe: you mean this http://pastebin.com/711081
[11:37] <mwe> harry: use another editor if the one sudoedit uses confeses you
[11:37] <mwe> harry: like gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:37] <bjv> ok #ubuntu the answer to my question was:  Boot the Install disk, not the live one. At the Boot: prompt type 'rescue'
[11:37] <blaze> no it doesn't
[11:37] <harry> mwe: you mean this http://pastebin.com/711081
[11:37] <gwilma> Hello. Anyone know how to make evolution display a pop-up message when new mail arrives? Or can't it do it?
[11:37] <harry> mwe: am i right with this one???
[11:37] <bjv> so the next guy who comes along and cant boot his ubuntu now knows.
[11:37] <blaze> it only works with x11  Ximage/Shm
[11:37] <blaze> but doesn't want to go fullscreen
[11:38] <mwe> harry: is that the entire file?
[11:38] <mwe> harry: if so it's broken
[11:38] <harry> yeah
[11:38] <blaze> with Totem it works, but it's kind of slow and squary
[11:38] <harry> mwe: how'd you know???
[11:38] <ferronica1> sammiak_: Oh too tidious
[11:38] <harry> i linux everything is manual
[11:38] <mwe> harry: it says the file is 37 lines but you only pasted 22
[11:38] <mwe> harry: or 20 rather
[11:39] <mwe> harry: use gedit instead
[11:39] <harry> whats the command again
[11:39] <harry> let me try
[11:39] <mwe> harry: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:39] <ferronica1> sammiak_: http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot23zo.png
[11:40] <salmiak_> looks neat ;)
[11:40] <salmiak_> but, ferronica1, i have to go now...i'll talk to ya later maybe. *afk*
[11:42] <harry> mwe:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13782
[11:42] <harry> did you see it mwe??
[11:42] <mwe> harry: you need to fix it
[11:42] <mwe> harry: close gedit
[11:43] <harry> mwe:how do i fix it??
[11:43] <mwe> harry: then type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list so you have permission to change the file
[11:44] <mwe> harry: the computer is online, right. is it the one you're on irc with as well?
[11:44] <harry> whats irc???
[11:44] <mwe> harry: chat, this room
[11:44] <harry> mwe: a gedit appeared. blank
[11:44] <harry> mwe: what do i do with it
[11:44] <mwe> harry: blank?
[11:45] <mwe> harry: you must have made a typo. what did you type?
[11:45] <ferronica1> any one here who can help me decorating desktop
[11:45] <salmiak_> ah, ferronica1 i didn't have to go
[11:45] <salmiak_> ;)
[11:45] <harry> mwe: it asked for a password
[11:45] <mwe> harry: good
[11:45] <mwe> harry: did you type your pw then?
[11:45] <ferronica1> sammiak_: So will u tell me
[11:45] <harry> i just typed the password of my useraccount
[11:45] <mwe> harry: good
[11:45] <harry> yeah it said, authentication failed at the last part
[11:45] <ferronica1> sammiak_: If u dont hve any problem???
[11:45] <mwe> harry: now open /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <salmiak_> ferronica1, http://gnome-look.org
[11:46] <mwe> harry: in gedit
[11:46] <harry> mwe: then after thet a gedit suddenly opened blank titled sources.list
[11:46] <mwe> harry: what exactly did you type?
[11:46] <harry>  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <harry> that exactly
[11:47] <mwe> harry: just file open and browse to the file. I don't know why it didn't open it
[11:47] <harry> at the gedit???
[11:47] <ferronica1> i am there only
[11:47] <mwe> harry: can't you open a file from gedit?
[11:47] <ohzie> !quicktime
[11:47] <ubotu> from memory, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[11:48] <harry> mwe: i can
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> ferronica1: what do you need help with?
[11:48] <harry> mwe: on what file do i search it???
[11:48] <ferronica1> sammiak_: If u seen my desktop, top  pannel i wanna remove them all
[11:48] <harry> mwe: what do i search???
[11:48] <mwe> harry: good open /etc/apt/sources.list. I thinks you are creating a new file I don't know why. open the existing one in gedit
[11:48] <mwe> harry: /etc/apt/
[11:49] <ferronica1> sammiak_:
[11:49] <ferronica1> sammiak_: ???
[11:49] <visik7> !bacula
[11:49] <ubotu> visik7: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:49] <harry> mwe:ive opened it
[11:49] <mwe> harry: is it open now?
[11:50] <mwe> harry: good
[11:50] <harry> yeah
[11:50] <harry> the file appeared again
[11:50] <salmiak_> ferronica, yeh...right-click it and click on remove?
[11:50] <mwe> harry: put a # in the beginning of line 1. that will disable the cd. then
[11:50] <mwe> harry: remove the # in the beginning of lines 5 and 6
[11:51] <harry> w8
[11:51] <harry> not so fast
[11:51] <harry> i cant type anythin
[11:51] <mwe> harry: can't type?
[11:51] <harry> i cant type on anything
[11:51] <mwe> harry: is the the gedit you opened with gksudo gedit?
[11:51] <ferronica> salmiak_:  then where to put my these icons
[11:52] <salmiak_> you downloaded the package?
[11:52] <harry> ive opened the gedit /etc/apt/sources.list on the terminal and the file appeared
[11:52] <mwe> harry: you wont have permission to change the file without gksudo
[11:52] <ferronica> salmiak_:  time
[11:52] <harry> am i wrong on this one
[11:52] <harry> thats what i did
[11:52] <salmiak_> ferronica, go into the menu, ->system->preferences->themes
[11:52] <mwe> harry: odd
[11:52] <harry> wait
[11:52] <harry> maybe i'm missing something
[11:53] <harry> what do i do again to gain acces gksudo???
[11:53] <mwe> harry: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:53] <salmiak_> ferronica, brb
[11:53] <mwe> harry: close any other open gedit windows so you don't get confused
[11:53] <harry> this is what is shown
[11:53] <harry> (gksudo:944): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[11:53] <harry> (gksudo:944): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[11:53] <harry> (gedit:946): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[11:53] <harry> (gedit:946): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[11:53] <harry> (gedit:946): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[11:53] <harry> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[11:54] <harry> after i typed the command
[11:54] <mwe> harry: it's broken
[11:54] <mwe> harry: use nano instead
[11:54] <PengouinPdt> io all
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> harry: do not flood in this channel, use a pastebin service.
[11:54] <mwe> harry: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:54] <harry>  what's nano
[11:54] <McScruff> is there a way to have a pc that uses another pc for all the power (like a p2 64mb ram pc that actually runs off a powerful one)?
[11:54] <harry> ok
[11:54] <mwe> harry: another editor
[11:54] <mwe> harry: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> McScruff: yes. Just install a remote X client and use the network.
[11:54] <salmiak_> ah, there
[11:55] <mwe> harry: is it open now?
[11:55] <harry> a file just opened
[11:55] <harry> yeah
[11:55] <mwe> good put a # at the beginning of line 1
[11:55] <mwe> harry: ^^
[11:55] <harry> i opened it on terminal
[11:55] <mwe> harry: that will disable the cd which is a good thing
[11:55] <mwe> harry: that's good
[11:56] <harry> do i open it at gedit???
[11:56] <mwe> harry: no
[11:56] <mwe> harry: gedit or locales is broken. it will probably be fixed when you update
[11:56] <mwe> harry: did you type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:56] <blunted> what kernel does the kubuntu have
[11:56] <mwe> harry: and did it open the file?
[11:56] <harry> the first line u said was the second line specificallt right
[11:57] <cafuego_> same one as buntu
[11:57] <salmiak_> blunted, open terminal and write "uname -r"
[11:57] <harry> yeah i did
[11:57] <blunted> im not using it
[11:57] <blunted> i was asking
[11:57] <salmiak_> ah ok then
[11:57] <salmiak_> ;)
[11:57] <cafuego_> 2.6.12-9
[11:57] <mwe> harry: good so type that # at the beginning of line 1 now
[11:57] <harry> mwe: ive placed a # beside the deb-cd........
[11:57] <harry> is that right???
[11:57] <mwe> harry: yeah good
[11:58] <harry> then next???
[11:58] <mwe> harry: now remove the # on line 5 and 6
[11:58] <McScruff> anyone tried ubuntu on xbox?
[11:58] <mwe> harry: have you done that?
[11:58] <mwe> harry: removed the # a the start of line 5 and 6 ?
[11:59] <harry> ok done
[11:59] <daryl_> How do i make apt-get/synaptic ignore a package, so it doesn't update?
[11:59] <mwe> harry: now on lines 20,21,36 and 37 remove the # as well
[11:59] <visik7> yes you can do it
[11:59] <soundray> daryl_: look for the lock menu command
[12:00] <graveson> where can i find a debian package for xara xtreme
[12:01] <harry> mwe: ok done
[12:01] <mwe> harry: and in lines 10,11,33 and 34 remove the # too
[12:01] <cwillu> any vm experts around?  I'm having swappiness issues
[12:01] <daryl_> How do i make apt-get/synaptic ignore a package, so it doesn't update?  do i  use filters?
[12:01] <harry> ok done
[12:01] <harry> mwe:done
[12:02] <captine> yes, i finally got ubuntu connected to the internet.  Excuse my outburst of joy :)
[12:02] <soundray> daryl_, I've answered that. What's the problem?
[12:02] <mwe> harry: now on line 36 and 37 add a space and the word multiverse at the end of the line
[12:02] <daryl_> soundray : you said lock menu.. i coudln't find it
[12:02] <daryl_> soundray: i dont' want wine to upgrade.  i did a custom install
[12:02] <soundray> daryl_: it's a menu command, called lock
[12:02] <harry> add a space where at 36 and 37
[12:02] <visik7>  graveson xara extreme is a windows program
[12:02] <cwillu> if I set swappiness=0 (as suggested as a good way to keep apps from paging out overnight), I seem to get random oom killings;  I read vm.txt (which appears out of date), but judging from the forums I've read, nobody else has this problem
[12:03] <soundray> daryl: Package-Lock Version
[12:03] <mwe> harry: at the end of the line. a space and the word multiverse
[12:03] <mwe> harry: right after universe
[12:03] <graveson> visik: http://www.xaraxtreme.org/about/
[12:03] <harry> mwe: ok done
[12:03] <mwe> harry: do that in lines 20 and 21 as well
[12:04] <daryl_> soundray: i am not sure what you mean by a menu command.  could you clarify?
[12:04] <harry> mwe:ok done
[12:04] <mwe> harry: now replace all occurences of ph. with archive. in the urls
[12:04] <soundray> daryl_, a menu is what you usually see at the top of the window in a graphical user interface.
[12:04] <mwe> harry: no wait
[12:04] <harry> yes??
[12:04] <harry> mwe: yes
[12:05] <soundray> daryl_, it is used to invoke commands by pointing-and-clicking.
[12:05] <soundray> daryl_, you ever used a computer?
[12:05] <mwe> harry: just remove the ph. part so it read archive.ubuntu.com without ph. in front
[12:05] <liquidindian> Are there any 'processes' that run in the backround in Ubuntu, that might be slowing my machine down?
[12:05] <liquidindian> as in Windows?
[12:05] <mwe> harry: on all the lines
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> liquidindian: a few.
[12:05] <daryl_> soundray: aye, but what you said didn't make sense, because i dont' have a drop down menu option w/"lock"
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> liquidindian: on a console, type 'top'
[12:06] <harry> mwe: ive done it on all the lines
[12:06] <soundray> daryl_, then you aren't running synaptic. Yet your question referred to synaptic
[12:06] <mwe> harry: save the file and paste it on paste.ubuntu-nl.org so I can verify it
[12:06] <soundray> daryl: Package-Lock Version
[12:06] <mwe> harry: ctrl-X to save and exit
[12:06] <soundray> daryl_: Package-Lock Version
[12:07] <captine> how do i ask the bot questions?  is there a specific format/command etc?
[12:07] <liquidindian> I'm wondering why the sound in Jagged Alliance isn't working in game (it's stuttering really badly) but in the cutscene at the beginning it's fine/
[12:07] <harry> how do i copy it all???
[12:07] <soundray> captine: /msg ubotu ubotu
[12:07] <daryl_> soundray: i see, i guess i have to select the package, from the list of products,t hen go to package.
[12:07] <harry> i cant drag it all down
[12:07] <mwe> captine: /msg ubotu usage
[12:07] <mwe> harry: copy paste the first part then page down and copy paste the rest
[12:08] <captine> soundray, thanks
[12:08] <daryl_> soundray: thanks for the clarification, i undrstand how to lock the package now
[12:09] <harry> mwe:on what site again
[12:09] <mwe> harry: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:09] <harry> mwe: where do i paste it again???
[12:09] <mwe> harry: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:09] <harry> cant find it
[12:10] <mwe> harry: huh?
[12:10] <luke__> can sombody please tell me where i can get a linux lexmark z180 series printer driver?
[12:10] <mwe> harry: type it correctly
[12:10] <harry> i typed at my address bar www.paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:10] <mwe> harry: not www.
[12:10] <mwe> harry: just paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:11] <harry> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13783
[12:11] <harry> theres the url
[12:12] <harry> mwe: is this still going to take long???
[12:12] <mwe> harry: no
[12:12] <arrick> mwe whaddup
[12:12] <jofo> i know that this is the wrong place but can sombody help me with xubuntu question?
[12:12] <mwe> harry: good now sve the file, ctrl-x
[12:13] <mwe> harry: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:13] <gnomefreak> jofo: in dapper?
[12:13] <mwe> harry: save, not sve :)
[12:13] <harry> wait wait
[12:13] <harry> i typed Y to save it
[12:13] <mwe> arrick: going to school soon
[12:13] <mwe> harry: good
[12:14] <mwe> harry: now sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:14] <gnomefreak> jofo: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:14] <harry> mwe: oh thank god now it workd
[12:14] <mwe> harry: great
[12:14] <harry> mwe: hey mwe, how did you get to know all of this
[12:14] <harry> mwe: hey mwe, how did you get to know all of this??
[12:14] <jofo> gnomefreak: i've forgot how do i check?
[12:15] <liquidindian> Where can I adjust my desktop to 16-bit color?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> oh well brb
[12:15] <mwe> harry: aftet sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade you should be able to install whatever you wanted
[12:15] <gnomefreak> jofo: lsb_release -a
[12:15] <harry> another question???
[12:15] <gnomefreak> jofo: type that in termminal
[12:15] <harry> do you know about turbo gears???
[12:15] <mwe> harry: someone else maybe, I gotta go ...
[12:15] <harry> thnk you very much
[12:15] <mwe> yw
[12:15] <captine> this apt-get thing is really cool
[12:15] <jofo> gnomefreak: 6.06
[12:16] <soundray> liquidindian: edit the DefaultDepth option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:16] <gnomefreak> jofo: its a known issue and its being worked on its been broken for about a week
[12:16] <liquidindian> soundray, okay :)
[12:17] <jofo> gnomefreak: u lost me there, what is theown bug?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> jofo: xubuntu is unusable/uninstallable atm there was an update for a lib that broke everything check back in here if im around ill let you know when its fixed
[12:17] <soundray> gnomefreak: are you involved with xubuntu?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> soundray: no but ive been getting really pissed on this issue and has talked to people that are
[12:18] <gnomefreak> lixfce4utils is the name of the lib thats borked iirc
[12:19] <gnomefreak> libxfceutils
[12:19] <gnomefreak> now brb for smake
[12:19] <gnomefreak> smoke
[12:19] <soundray> gnomefreak: enjoy your smake
[12:19] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:19] <soundray> gnomefreak: don't inhale ;)
[12:19] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:20] <jofo> k, my problem is that cant log in Xubuntu, r we talking about the same thing here? ;)
[12:20] <soundray> jofo: yes, I reckon that's what it is.
[12:20] <soundray> jofo: you'll have to make do with failsafe in the meantime.
[12:20] <Ven] n^> im trying to modprobe speedstep-centrino but i get "no such device" .. and the folder /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/ is empty.. what do i forget?
[12:21] <liquidindian> soundray, tsk, it already is that.  Guess my laptop is just too rubbish to run it.  Pity, it worked fine in windows.
[12:22] <soundray> liquidindian: have you set the maximum X resolution to the native resolution of your display?
[12:22] <liquidindian> soundray, I'm not sure...
[12:22] <soundray> liquidindian: what video driver are you using?
[12:23] <jofo> soundray: so there is no way of creating a new user in the terminal
[12:23] <liquidindian> soundray, how do I find that out?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> jofo: is that what you installed is xubuntu or ubuntu +xubuntu-desktop?
[12:23] <soundray> liquidindian: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:23] <soundray> jofo: there is: 'sudo adduser newusername'
[12:23] <jofo> soundray: xubuntu
[12:24] <liquidindian> soundray, wacom?  Savage?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> jofo: what does it say on login?
[12:24] <soundray> liquidindian: do you know what video chipset your laptop uses?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> jofo: or do you get in than nothing works
[12:25] <jofo> gnomefreak: no i have no user to chose
[12:25] <jofo> gnomefreak: so i have to use the failsafe way...
[12:25] <soundray> soundray: sorry, it's obvious.
[12:25] <victori> planning to upgrade from debian-unstable to ubuntu dapper, think it will work?
[12:26] <soundray> liquidindian: sorry, it's obvious
[12:26] <victori> by changing apt-sources
[12:26] <liquidindian> soundray, I'll dive into the depths of history... "integrated Via ProSavage KN133 graphics chip with 16MB of SDRAM", if that makes sense.
[12:26] <gnomefreak> jofo: when you get to xubuntu login page if you type your user name and user password what happens?
[12:26] <soundray> liquidindian: savage is supported fairly well
[12:26] <soundray> liquidindian: try the wiki:
[12:26] <soundray> !fixres
[12:26] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:26] <liquidindian> soundray, obvious?
[12:27] <soundray> liquidindian: you had savage in the grep Driver output.
[12:27] <jofo> gnomefreak  thats the thing, ive never got to chose a user when i installed
[12:27] <liquidindian> soundray, ahh.  I'm still learning.  I don't know much yet.
[12:27] <captine> Hi there.  if i have a laptop and a desktop, and the laptop has an internet connection (at work), can i somehow ubdate my ubuntu desktop from the updated laptop?
[12:28] <arrick> yes
[12:28] <arrick> ssh
[12:28] <soundray> liquidindian: 1024x768 with 16 bpp should be no problem with your setup. Probably even 24bpp.
[12:28] <soundray> captine: is there no internet at all on the desktop, or just slow?
[12:29] <jofo> gnomefreak; well i tried: sudo adduser, ill try to log in with the new user
[12:29] <gnomefreak> jofo: ok yes that is sounding like same issue (atleast that could be caused by the same library) here are a feww choices  1. you can download burn install ubuntu 2. you can wait for a fix for xubuntu <not sure how long atm but i would think within a week> or you can go to ctrl+alt+f2 and when you get to tty2 type what soundray gave you than install ubuntu-desktop and use gnome until fixed
[12:30] <balor> could someone please type a hash/pound symbol?  I'm on a Mac running Ubuntu with no hash key :P
[12:30] <highvoltage> #
[12:30] <gnomefreak> #
[12:30] <jofo> k, thx ill try!
[12:30] <balor> highvoltage, gnomefreak : tnx
[12:31] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:31] <highvoltage> balor: you can also press alt+f2 and type 'charmap' and enter
[12:31] <liquidindian> I wish I'd known about nano before...
[12:31] <balor> highvoltage, yeah.  Or Apple could cop on :P
[12:31] <salmiak_> liquidindian, why?
[12:32] <DrNickRiviera> does anyone know whether there is an active maintainer for the ubuntu mythtv packages?
[12:32] <liquidindian> salmiak_, because vim scares me :)
[12:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> DrNickRiviera, look in the changelog
[12:32] <DrNickRiviera> because the ones on multiverse are still version 0.18 and 019 has been out for quite a while
[12:32] <salmiak_> liquidindian, vim ? best editor ever! :D
[12:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> <3 vim
[12:32] <highvoltage> gnomefreak: i'm on xfce atm, so i wasn't sure where a user would find charmap in gnome :)
[12:32] <YaKuT> hallo
[12:32] <balor> liquidindian, don't listen to salmiak_ . Emacs all the way
[12:32] <liquidindian> salmiak_, maybe eventually I'll use it :)
[12:33] <ramvi> Heya, I tried to install Xgl as said in the wiki. As I did the "ln -sf /usr/bin/Xgl /etc/X11/X" and rebooted, X wouldn't start back up. What do I do?
[12:33] <salmiak_> balor, so, it's a fight you want? meet me at #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[12:33] <balor> salmiak_, lol
[12:33] <gnomefreak> i think its in applications>accesorires (i used alacarte to remove it from menu. and stop teasing me with xfce :( i miss mine
[12:34] <YaKuT> made in russia
[12:34] <soundray> ramvi: log in on a console (Ctrl-Alt-F1), run 'sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X ; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[12:35] <ramvi> I don't have to do the restart, X and gdm can't start. Using kdm btw. But, okay, thanks :)
[12:35] <YaKuT> Greetings who  from Russia will respond??
[12:36] <soundray> ramvi: who said anything about restart?
[12:37] <soundray> ramvi: have you relinked Xorg?
[12:37] <YaKuT> Greetings who  from Russia will respond??
[12:37] <ramvi> Doesn't /etc/init.d/gdm restart' reboot?
[12:37] <soundray> ramvi: no, it doesn't. Have you fixed it?
[12:37] <ramvi> Relinked? Please come again.. Thanks so much for the help!
[12:38] <haakonn> is gam_server supposed to constantly take 10% cpu? (amd athlon64)
[12:38] <ramvi> No, not yet. I have to get all the help I can get and go 7 floors up to my computer and try to fix it
[12:38] <soundray> ramvi: switch to a text console to login, bypassing X, which doesn't work. To do this, hit Ctrl-Alt-F1
[12:38] <ramvi> Ok
[12:39] <soundray> ramvi: log in with your username and password. Then type 'sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X'. Then type 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart'
[12:39] <ramvi> ok, thanks a bunch!
[12:40] <ramvi> :)
[12:40] <soundray> ramvi: that will restore Xorg in place of Xgl and restart kdm and X
[12:40] <serp> how do I extract a .bz2 file?
[12:40] <soundray> serp bunzip2 (tar jxf if it's a tar.bz2)
[12:40] <ramvi> Thanks bye :)
[12:40] <serp> soundray: oh okay
[12:40] <serp> thx
[12:45] <victori> is there a unstable branch?
[12:46] <soundray> victori: yes, it's called Dapper Drake. Join #ubuntu+1 to discuss
[12:46] <soundray> !dapper
[12:46] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:46] <gnomefreak> victori: not yet but there is a pre release version of ubuntu
[12:46] <serve> jhjk
[12:46] <soundray> serve, your test worked
[12:46] <gnomefreak> take out pre release and add instead development
[12:47] <donvella_> how do i make vlc my default media player instead of mplayer?
[12:49] <variant> anyone know a p2p client that will run on ubuntu with a command line interface and uses http for file transfers?
[12:49] <balor> variant, wget
[12:49] <balor> variant, freenet
[12:49] <soundray> donvella_: do you mean in nautilus?
[12:50] <donvella_> soundray: id say so, if nautilus runs on gnome
[12:50] <hukkka> how is wget p2p?
[12:50] <variant> balor: wget is not a p2p client
[12:51] <balor> hukkka, variant, depending on your definition of p2p
[12:51] <soundray> donvella_: you didn't say gnome. It could have been firefox. Anyway, right click a media file, select Properties, go to Open With and select the default app for this file type.
[12:51] <YaKuT> Greetings who  from Russia will respond??
[12:51] <soundray> !ru
[12:51] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:51] <donvella_> soundray: yeh ive done all that but in limewire it still tries to open them with mplayer...?
[12:52] <soundray> donvella_: then you will have to tell limewire about your preference.
[12:52] <donvella_> tried that
[12:53] <zcat[1] > Just in case anyone it tempted to try it, my apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper went _very_ badly. I ended up doing a clean install again.
[12:53] <zcat[1] > ymmv :)
[12:53] <soundray> zcat[1] : certainly my mileage varied. What was the point of failure?
[12:54] <YaKuT> Greetings who  from Russia will respond??
[12:54] <soundray> !ru
[12:54] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:54] <zcat[1] > kdm wouldn't start, network modules wouldn't load, probably other things. I decided a clean install was easiest
[12:54] <zcat[1] > I've been playing with gnome, kde, edubuntu, and lots of other crap.. my upgrade was 1425 packages...
[12:54] <soundray> zcat[1] : it often is, especially on modern hardware.
[12:55] <zcat[1] > I probably won't migrate this machine to eft.. my wife is ready to kill me right now!
[12:55] <soundray> zcat[1] : oh, I thought my installation was big with about 1000 packages.
[12:55] <zcat[1] > s'ok, she'll love it when I get everything set up nicely.
[12:57] <zcat[1] > she hates it when I change things around.
[12:57] <donvella_> zcat[1] : you should put the pants on mate ;)
[12:57] <donvella_> zcat[1] : take control of this relationship
[12:57] <zcat[1] > nah, I need to get her her own machine perhaps
[12:58] <YaKuT> Greetings who  from Russia will respond??
[12:59] <soundray> YaKuT: can you stop this please.
[12:59] <YaKuT> flood?
[12:59] <moruan> what do you want Russian for
[12:59] <salmiak_> !ru
[12:59] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:59] <salmiak_> maybe?
[12:59] <soundray> salmiak_: told him that twice already.
[12:59] <salmiak_> yeah i know, but maybe the thirt time he'd understand?
[01:00] <salmiak_> ;p
[01:00] <moruan> :<
[01:00] <salmiak_> moruan?
[01:00] <momo> hi
[01:00] <salmiak_> 'lo
[01:00] <arrick> working later
[01:00] <Protocol1> !vmware
[01:00] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Protocol1
[01:01] <momo> have anybody installed Oracle in Ubuntu ?
[01:01] <kbrooks> Seveas: ping
[01:01] <Seveas> kbrooks, yes?
[01:02] <kbrooks> Seveas: in the early morning (EDT), people were "abusing" (kind of) !ops
[01:02] <Seveas> hmm
[01:04] <kbrooks> Seveas: i was just scrolling up when i saw that. i was wondering why the highlight was activated
[01:04] <kbrooks> Seveas: (for the word easyubuntu)
[01:09] <jose__> espaa
[01:10] <Seveas> !es
[01:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:13] <momo> can anybody do me a favor ?
[01:13] <salmiak_> nope ;P
[01:14] <salmiak_> what kind of favor?
[01:14] <momo> mysql.h
[01:14] <momo> who have mysql.h
[01:14] <salmiak_> no tme
[01:14] <salmiak_> not me*
[01:14] <bitotob> I'm finding it impossible to get my internet connection to work in my new installation of Ubuntu
[01:15] <momo> i need it to interact C program with mysql
[01:15] <donvella> does anyone know a good program to burn dvd-video files?
[01:16] <momo> check the Ubuntu FAQ
[01:17] <ompaul> momo, for what?
[01:18] <salmiak_> donvella, gnomebaker?
[01:18] <momo> mysql.h
[01:18] <ompaul> momo, na, have a look at installing the source for mysql
[01:18] <donvella> salmiak_: i tried that but i cant see if thers a dvd-video button, i have a lot of video files i want to convert
[01:18] <donvella> to one DVD
[01:18] <momo> i make i try
[01:18] <donvella> and play it on mmy DVD player
[01:19] <bitotob> I'm in an apartment complex where I just plug my ethernet cable into a jack on the wall to get my internet connection.
[01:19] <captine> bitotob, i struggled for a long time with my connection as well :/
[01:19] <bitotob> When using XP the internet connection works automatically.
[01:20] <bitotob> captine: I can get it to work with Ubuntu but only for about 20 mins
[01:20] <captine> bitotob, weird
[01:20] <bitotob> I set it up as a static IP even though it is really a DHCP connection
[01:20] <bitotob> becuase trying to set it as a DHCP does not work with Ubuntu
[01:20] <salmiak_> that's weird...
[01:21] <bitotob> well my DHCP server only licenses my ip address for 20 minute segments
[01:21] <captine> bitotob, I'm using dhcp now in ubuntu
[01:21] <bitotob> so, I can set up the static for 20 mins, but then when it relicenses me a new ip i lose the connection
[01:21] <speedie> Is there a way to connect to AIM via HTTP protocol? (while still using an actual client, not a web based client)
[01:22] <captine> bitotob, i'm not a master on dhcp, but surely if u set ubuntu for dhcp it will work?
[01:22] <bitotob> it says that it is working but i have no connection
[01:22] <salmiak_> do you really get an IP?
[01:22] <salmiak_> ifconfig?
[01:22] <bitotob> only manually setting up the static has worked, and that only for a short period at a time
[01:23] <captine> bitotob, do what salmiak_ said, set up ubuntu as dhcp - under networking
[01:23] <captine> bitotob, then in console or in the networking settings menu check that an ip is assigned.
[01:24] <captine> i.e. ifconfig eth0
[01:24] <zcat[1] > dhcp should work, that's what windows will be using. There is likely some other problem with using the wrong module or something..
[01:25] <captine> i had a problem with the live cd, where i would have to manually go and activate eth0 everytime i booted.
[01:25] <zcat[1] > reading dmesg might shed some light
[01:25] <captine> i think it was due to me having a wireless card of something
[01:25] <bitotob> could it be that ubuntu doesn't recognize my network card, or would that make it impossible for me to connect for short periods under a static ip configuration?
[01:26] <bitotob> when people say enter "some linux jazz" into "a terminal" what are they talking about....what is a terminal?
[01:27] <zcat[1] > my wireless takes too long to find an ESSID, I have to give it time before I run dhcpd .. and I have seen some wired NIC's that take a while to detect the connection too..
[01:27] <salmiak_> bitotob: "start-menu"->accessories->terminal
[01:27] <bitotob> ok thats similar to "run" in windows?
[01:28] <zcat[1] > looks a lot like 'cmd' shell in windows..
[01:28] <bitotob> ok
[01:28] <salmiak_> but it's more powerful, ofcourse ;)
[01:28] <captine> bitotob, system -> administration ->networking.  Check that the device is active and set to dhcp.  thats about all my ubuntu knowledge:)
[01:29] <bitotob> my NIC just says that its a "VIA 10/100mbs Fast Ethernet Adapter"
[01:29] <bitotob> no brand name or anything specific
[01:29] <salmiak_> i've had one of those
[01:29] <salmiak_> working
[01:29] <salmiak_> in linux
[01:29] <salmiak_> not ubuntu, though, but linux still.
[01:29] <captine> salmiak_, why not ubuntu?
[01:29] <salmiak_> ubuntu didn't exist when i used it ;)
[01:30] <captine> lol.
[01:30] <mason_> Does Ubuntu have a charmap ?
[01:30] <bitotob> ubuntu says its working with dhcp but then when i try to open firefow it says "google.com can not be found...
[01:30] <_jason> mason_: applications > accessories > character map
[01:30] <captine> i've found all linux versions seem to work well with most cards (at least the verions i've tried)
[01:30] <mason_> _jason: thanks
[01:31] <salmiak_> anyway, set your NIC to DHCP, wait until ubuntu tells you that you got an IP connection, write "ifconfig" in a terminal and see if you get an IP
[01:31] <bitotob> i bought my computer at the Yongsan market in Seoul korea
[01:31] <bitotob> could that be relavent...perhaps my NIC is some weird graymarket crap
[01:31] <zcat[1] > The fastest machine I own was pulled out of a dumpster..
[01:31] <cbear> Hello.  I'd like to set up a systemwide keyboard shortcut to launch beagle-search (or any other application).  How would I do that?
[01:31] <captine> bitotob, i'm sure thats not a prob
[01:32] <salmiak_> another reason to why you can't find google.com is because your DNS isn't working
[01:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell cbear about shortcuts
[01:32] <vanden> Hi, still an ubuntu newbie. I'm running breezy, and feeling left behind by apps like thunderbird and firefox. Synaptic isn't offering me the 1.5 releases. Can I safely update them myself? I've STFW for info on any possible downsides of updating myself, but have come up empty. Pointers?
[01:32] <cbear> _jason, Thanks.
[01:32] <bitotob> the DNS works when I set it manually with a static IP
[01:32] <zcat[1] > try and ping 64.233.167.99
[01:32] <bitotob> but then i lose the connection after 20 mins
[01:33] <_jason> vanden: you can update yourself outside the repos.  However, dapper will be out in less that 3 weeks, so if they are working fine, I would just wait for then.  That way you cna stick to official repositories.  If you still want the instructions anyway, just type: /msg ubotu firefox1.5    and    /msg ubotu thunderbird1.5
[01:33] <zcat[1] > the card was definately OK in windows?
[01:33] <salmiak_> yeah, i was just going to say something similar...enable DHCP, ping 64.233.167.99 and see if you get any response (to ping, open terminal and write 'ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'
[01:33] <yang_> 
[01:33] <_jason> vanden: (dapper has firefox1.5)
[01:34] <cbear> _jason, I don't seem to have a Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor ... (Dapper beta)
[01:34] <vanden> _jason: Thanks. Is it better to stick to the official repositories?
[01:34] <zcat[1] > I'd grab a different card anyhow.. it sounds dodgy and NIC's are dirt cheap..
[01:34] <bitotob> i also wondered if it has to do with me being in Korea. I'm not sure that is possible yet but they stricly controll their internet. I'm on the largest provider in the country and I can't go to Electronic Freedom Foundation's website
[01:34] <bitotob> it is blocked
[01:34] <vanden> _jason: If so, why?
[01:34] <_jason> cbear: dapper questions should go to #ubuntu+1, but configuration editor was removed from the menus in dapper.  You can type it in a terminal: gconf-editor
[01:35] <zcat[1] > bitotob: north or south?
[01:35] <cbear> _jason, Thanks again.
[01:35] <bitotob> south
[01:35] <_jason> vanden: if you stick to official repos, you know the packages on your system have been tested for stability and benefit from security updates by the ubuntu team
[01:35] <bitotob> its like brave new world over here
[01:35] <zcat[1] > they filter you?
[01:35] <bitotob> tons
[01:35] <salmiak_> zcat[1] , it can just be a coincidence with the dns...the dns DHCP gives him may be down for the moment...
[01:35] <bitotob> tons of sites are blocked
[01:35] <bitotob> pornagraphy is illegal in SK
[01:36] <bitotob> drug sites are blocked
[01:36] <bitotob> hightimes.com
[01:36] <_jason> vanden: if you install on your own, you have to take care of updates and keep track of them.  The update manager won't tell you about it
[01:36] <bitotob> that type of thing
[01:36] <bitotob> EFF being blocked was a bit scary to me though.
[01:36] <vanden> _jason: Thanks. I take it that is more important for less well-used things than ff and tb. Anyway, thanks for the info. (The /msg ubotu thing is really helpful!)
[01:36] <_jason> vanden: np
[01:37] <zcat[1] > salmiak_: yeah, I hit that once, went to sort out a guy's computer. Made a few insignificant changes and suddenly nothing would work. After about a half hour of feeling like I'd fscked up, it turned out the ISP was having an outage. Bad timing.
[01:37] <salmiak_> zcat[1] , i've been through it too ;)
[01:38] <salmiak_> feeling like a worthless pile of dung
[01:38] <kbrooks> any feature requests for EasyUbuntu?
[01:38] <salmiak_> and then it just starts working again
[01:38] <zcat[1] > I hate teh intarweb some days!
[01:38] <salmiak_> but i don't see the reason why dhcp updates your IP every 20 mins
[01:39] <kbrooks> any feature requests for EasyUbuntu?
[01:39] <salmiak_> kbrooks, huh?
[01:39] <mjr> salmiak_, basically because the server wants to free the IP unless you tell it that you're using it once in a while
[01:39] <kbrooks> !tell salmiak_ about easyubuntu
[01:39] <zcat[1] > South Korea probably doesn't have the msot clueful techies..
[01:40] <speedie> zcat[1] : quite the contrary
[01:40] <speedie> zcat[1] : I lived in South Korea for two years
[01:40] <speedie> a) they have the fastest internet in the world
[01:40] <bitotob> I think 95% of the country has internet in there home
[01:40] <speedie> b) they have some of the best hackers in the world
[01:40] <zcat[1] > I lived there for four years.. but that was about 30 years ago.. :)
[01:40] <bitotob> My connection is silly fast
[01:40] <speedie> I lived there last year :)
[01:41] <soundray> Ask yourself whether you are still ontopic please
[01:41] <salmiak_> interesting, kbrooks
[01:41] <speedie> heh, I just saw the attack on South Korea, and it's one of my favorite places in the world, had to defend it
[01:42] <salmiak_> kbrooks, i'll try it out and see if there's anything i want to request
[01:42] <kbrooks> salmiak_: ok
[01:42] <serp> how do I play vmw files in ubuntu?
[01:42] <zcat[1] > what's a vmw ?
[01:42] <serp> wmv
[01:43] <bitotob> speedie were you using ubuntu in Corea
[01:43] <zcat[1] > ahhh...
[01:43] <gnomefreak> serp: w32codecs
[01:43] <zcat[1] > !w32codecs
[01:43] <soundray> kbrooks: in terms of nonfree software available at no charge, you've got it covered as far as I am concerned.
[01:43] <gnomefreak> !+w32codecs
[01:43] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install. To use w32codecs on a 64-bit system, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[01:43] <soundray> kbrooks: a flash solution for amd64 would be nice.
[01:43] <zcat[1] > thanks.. is that how you do it :)
[01:43] <kbrooks> soundray: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170204 < by the way
[01:43] <gnomefreak> soundray: i think someone downloaded and installed it from site and it worked on 64 bit
[01:44] <kbrooks> soundray: the solution is apparently a chroot
[01:44] <serp> that url doesn't work
[01:44] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: wow
[01:44] <ompaul> hyperstream, turn that off, and leave it off - in a channel with over 600 in it its madness
[01:44] <soundray> gnomefreak: yes, I know, it's on the wiki even, but it's technically unsatisfying.
[01:44] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: i'm gonna ask some users
[01:44] <gnomefreak> zcat[1] : its longer than the limit so for those you need to use !+
[01:44] <zcat[1] > I got shockwave working.. wine + winetools + windows firefox + windows shockwave plugin..
[01:44] <zcat[1] > still no luck getting MSIE to run in wine
[01:44] <soundray> zcat[1] : on amd64?
[01:44] <zcat[1] > no, on 32bit
[01:45] <vanden> when dapper comes out, will the update manager take care of it? I mean, will I get offered a slew of package upgrades and just need to accept them to be dapperized?
[01:45] <zcat[1] > I think amd64 still hs the same problem running wine too..
[01:45] <ompaul> vanden, that is how an upgrade works
[01:45] <kbrooks> vanden: u
[01:45] <kbrooks> !upgrade
[01:45] <ubotu> [upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[01:45] <kbrooks> read this please
[01:45] <vanden> ompaul: thanks, wasn't sure if major ones were different.
[01:46] <hyperstream> omg
[01:46] <gnomefreak> i think that is all changing when released
[01:46] <hyperstream> ompaul,  thanks for pointing that out i didnt relise :/
[01:46] <zcat[1] > vanden: in theory.. but a lot of people had trouble upgrading to breezy that way, and I just tried it.. it went badly
[01:46] <kbrooks> zcat[1] : well, dapper is pretty stable
[01:46] <gnomefreak> eh
[01:46] <soundray> zcat[1] : no, you said you used dist-upgrade, didn't you?
[01:46] <vanden> zcat[1] : that's too bad. Badly how?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> not really for xubuntu
[01:46] <kbrooks> zcat[1] : for flight7 status
[01:46] <zcat[1] > badly everything broke
[01:46] <gnomefreak> seeing its borked all kinds of ways
[01:47] <soundray> zcat[1] : vanden, upgrades with update manager are more reliable than with apt-get, I hear.
[01:47] <zcat[1] > otoh I have done all kinds of ugly hacks that most people probably wouldn't have to deal with. I was overdue for a clean install anyway :)
[01:47] <ompaul> vanden, before one upgrades one should always do a backup of ones home directory, it is always a good Idea from this perspective to have two things when you go do upgrade, a live CD and an install CD
[01:48] <ompaul> vanden, for this reason a seperate /home is always useful
[01:48] <vanden> ompaul: good advice. The cd's aren't going to happen. I'm on the road with a very thin pipe :-(
[01:49] <zcat[1] > My stuff's on /dev/hdd so reinstalling isn't a major hassle..
[01:49] <kbrooks> vanden: thin pipe?
[01:49] <ompaul> vanden, wait until you are near a big pipe and ask someone to get you the disks
[01:49] <vanden> ompaul: The seperate /home -- do you mean a dedicate /home partition? I was a bit surprised than breezy didn't install that way by default.
[01:49] <ompaul> kbrooks,  pipe = bandwidith
[01:49] <salmiak_> vanden, yeah, i was too
[01:49] <haboy> nid help
[01:49] <kbrooks> ah, ompaul
[01:49] <haboy> can someone help me???
[01:50] <gary> I'm trying to install mplayer-586 on my computer.  It is a 686 system and I get a dependency error: libdirectfc-0.9-20.  Any ideas how this could be rectified
[01:50] <salmiak_> tell us your problem, haboy :)
[01:50] <ompaul> vanden, how to choose that for a user, sanely
[01:50] <soundray> vanden, salmiak_: it's more fault-tolerant for a fully automated install.
[01:50] <haboy> whats the superuser acces???
[01:50] <ompaul> !root
[01:50] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:50] <ompaul> haboy, ^^
[01:50] <haboy> whats the superuser acces???
[01:50] <salmiak_> haboy, like administrator in windows...
[01:51] <kbrooks> soundray: fault tolerant?
[01:51] <haboy> who here knows about turbo gears???
[01:51] <vanden> ompaul: "how to choose that for a user, sanely" Sorry? I don't understand.
[01:51] <kbrooks> haboy: what about it?
[01:51] <haboy> do you know it kbrooks
[01:51] <haboy> do you know it kbrooks??
[01:51] <kbrooks> haboy: just ask
[01:51] <ompaul> vanden, how to partition the disk - some people want lots of apps and little data and others want different layouts
[01:51] <haboy> i'm having a hard time installing it
[01:52] <haboy> maybe u know it???
[01:52] <soundray> kbrooks: setting up a single data partition during an automated install leaves fewer points of failure than subdividing into root and home. It also makes it easier to set up extra partitions to your liking after the fact.
[01:52] <haboy> kbrooks: u wouldn't ask if ur not on it
[01:52] <vanden> ompaul: I see. Yes, no general solution. My expectation was formed form a previous effort with mandrake. (I love ubuntu as it is the first that 'just worked' with my laptop.)
[01:52] <ompaul> vanden, :-)
[01:52] <fid_> anyone awake?
[01:53] <haboy> kbrooks:???
[01:53] <gnomefreak> haboy: what type if file is it?
[01:53] <kbrooks> haboy: ...
[01:53] <ompaul> soundray, that was to me and vanden
[01:53] <zcat[1] > zZzZ
[01:53] <fid_> whoa there are lots of people in here
[01:53] <kbrooks> haboy: dude.
[01:53] <f00li5h> yes, many
[01:53] <haboy> what kbrooks??
[01:53] <soundray> vanden: setting up a single data partition during an automated install leaves fewer points of failure than subdividing into root and home. It also makes it easier to set up extra partitions to your liking after the fact.
[01:53] <salmiak_> fid_: yupp
[01:53] <fid_> i'm setting up an irc server and I need someone to test it from outside my router...
[01:53] <fid_> can anyone help me out?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> not even 700 yet :(
[01:53] <kbrooks> haboy: #turbogears
[01:53] <soundray> ompaul, it was also to kbrooks
[01:53] <haboy> kbrooks: can u help me with it?
[01:53] <f00li5h> fid_: you shouln't ask that in here...
[01:53] <f00li5h> fid_: unless you're pretty sure of the volume of your link
[01:53] <haboy> kbrooks. its not a game. if ur aware of it??
[01:53] <kbrooks> haboy: i'm not a teacher
[01:54] <fid_> i'm not terribly worried about it
[01:54] <zcat[1] > !ask
[01:54] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[01:54] <gnomefreak> haboy: give me a site for it please
[01:54] <kbrooks> haboy: GO TO #turvogears
[01:54] <vanden> thanks all. later.
[01:54] <fid_> just asking someone to try it out really quick
[01:54] <haboy> gnomefreak: it's for web development
[01:54] <fid_> see if it works
[01:54] <captine> does ubuntu have native support for .wmv files?
[01:54] <zcat[1] > try what?
[01:54] <haboy> gnomefreak: it's for web development
[01:54] <fid_> connecting to my irc server
[01:54] <zcat[1] > captine: no
[01:55] <kbrooks> captine: not iirc
[01:55] <soundray> captine: no, it can't be supported by a fully free system
[01:55] <fid_> i'm on the same side of the router as the server so I can't tell if its working right yet
[01:55] <zcat[1] > captine: but you can load w32codecs
[01:55] <haboy> gnomefreak: www.turbogears.org
[01:55] <gnomefreak> ty haboy now giv eme a few ill look see what i come up with
[01:56] <haboy> gnomefreak: go to downloads. the instructions there won't work on this system
[01:56] <gnomefreak> haboy: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:57] <sliipy> is there possible to upgrade a i386 install to a amd64?
[01:57] <sliipy> or is it better to reinstall the machine?
[01:57] <haboy> gnomefreak: how do i join there??
[01:57] <captine> thnks
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> afaik reinstall
[01:57] <soundray> sliipy: no, you have to reinstall. All the packages are different.
[01:57] <gnomefreak> haboy: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:57] <haboy> gnomefreak: on the address table???
[01:57] <kbrooks> haboy; no
[01:57] <gnomefreak> haboy: like you would type in this channel
[01:57] <kbrooks> haboy: where you type
[01:58] <ompaul> haboy, where you type you just type, >>>>/join #ubuntu-offtopic<<<
[01:58] <ompaul> haboy, leaving out the ><
[01:59] <sliipy> i thought there might be a chance that i could change something in sources.list and do a dist-upgrade
[01:59] <zcat[1] > sliipy: you could try.. worst case you were going to have to reinstall anyway..
[02:00] <soundray> sliipy: are you sure you want this anyway? What do you use your computer for?
[02:00] <sliipy> totally worth it ;)
[02:00] <soundray> sliipy: quite a number of i386 packages aren't available for amd64
[02:00] <yonatan> hi there, I've just scanned an image using xsane and it saved the fiel as a .pnm ... what do I use to view/edit it now?
[02:01] <sliipy> well, it's a server going out to a customer, its got no cd, and our netinstall system only got ubuntu_i386.. and the customer is going to run amd64
[02:01] <zcat[1] > eog ?
[02:01] <soundray> yonatan, gimp, gqview, eog,...
[02:01] <sliipy> so i'd like to test the "correct" arch
[02:01] <vinboy> any great game for linux?
[02:01] <soundray> yonatan: also, install netpbm for conversion tools.
[02:01] <salmiak_> vinboy, xjump
[02:01] <sliipy> but maby i should just include a amd64 install in our netinstall system
[02:01] <zcat[1] > planetpenguin racer?
[02:01] <sliipy> and reinstall
[02:01] <yonatan> soundray, gimp doesn't like it, not tried the others
[02:01] <zcat[1] > torcs
[02:01] <vinboy> thanks
[02:01] <zcat[1] > flightgear
[02:02] <soundray> yonatan: gimp opens pnm files usually. Maybe it's faulty.
[02:02] <yonatan> soundray, done 5 or 6 different files, it won't open any of them... could it be that xsane didn't save the files right?
[02:03] <soundray> yonatan: it's possible, but too early to conclude, since you haven't tried any viewers yet.
[02:03] <soundray> yonatan: you could also try sane from within gimp. (File - Acquire I think)
[02:03] <yonatan> soundray, well, the pnms kill eog... trying gqview
[02:04] <yonatan> soundray, that last one would only work if I still had the source... :( gqview doesn't work either.
[02:04] <soundray> yonatan: try pnmfile from netpbm for info about your file
[02:05] <yonatan> soundray, will try netpbm next
[02:05] <cg> could u help install via8233 sound card?
[02:06] <cg> i compile alsaconf and met error: need curses lib, where to find the curses lib
[02:06] <Industrial> who's u?
[02:06] <Industrial> *badoom tisch*
[02:06] <cg> you
[02:06] <Industrial> no, i'm Industrial
[02:07] <yonatan> soundray, output from "pnmfile Desktop/tartan\ photos+/tartanscan0001.pnm" = Desktop/tartan photos+/tartanscan0001.pnm:      PPM raw, 849 by 1159  maxval 65535
[02:07] <soundray> cg: you shouldn't need alsaconf. Do you see your card with lspci?
[02:09] <cg> soundray: what is lspci?
[02:09] <soundray> yonatan: that's good. Try pnmtopng tartanscan0001.pnm >tartanscan0001.png and open the png
[02:09] <salmiak_> cg a command...write "lspci" in the terminal
[02:09] <soundray> cg: a command you type in a terminal window
[02:09] <cg> my sound card can play music but have some unpleasant ZiZi sound
[02:09] <salmiak_> ZiZi?
[02:09] <soundray> cg: you can't fix that with alsaconf I'm afraid.
[02:10] <yonatan> soundray, sweet! is it the same syntax if I want to use pnmtotiff? ie pnmtotiff tartanscan0001.pnm >tartanscan0001.tiff
[02:10] <yonatan> guess I could just try it, huh?
[02:11] <cg> yes lspci list something
[02:11] <soundray> yonatan: man pnmtotiff if in doubt.
[02:11] <salmiak_> cg, what's "ZiZi" sound?
[02:11] <cg> soundray: what can i do now?
[02:11] <soundray> cg: is it possible that your hardware is faulty?
[02:11] <cg> unpleasant sound
[02:12] <yonatan> soundray, hmm.... it's got a colourmap problem now as well - there's too many colours apparently, but that's ok, the tiff seems fine.
[02:12] <c0lored> anyone know a good spot to get 1920x1200 wallpapers at?
[02:12] <cg> no it work well under window 2k
[02:12] <salmiak_> cg: start alsamixer
[02:12] <cafuego_> c0lored: convert -resize
[02:12] <yonatan> soundray: cool, cheers mate! ciao all!
[02:12] <scapor> when IU want to browse a windows network, nautilus errors "smb:/// no valid location"
[02:13] <soundray> cg: listen to salmiak_ and adjust levels, turn off surround, play a bit.
[02:13] <c0lored> thank cafuego
[02:13] <scapor> do I have to instakll something extra ,
[02:13] <bwlang> cg: maybe you have one of the amps turned all the way up... try turning down the pcm amp.
[02:14] <cg> i just use pcm.
[02:15] <salmiak_> cg: i had unpleasant sounds before, and i played around with the settings in the mixer. It turned out that one of the amps didn't like it when they were maxed out. I found that around 70% of max amplification made the unpleasant sounds disappear, and i still could get a high volume out of my speakers
[02:16] <salmiak_> cg: i'd recommend you to turn down pcm to around 70% and use Master to control your volume
[02:16] <tarun> quick question how does one install the gcc,make etc dev tools on ubuntu
[02:16] <cg> adjust the level seems useless,:(
[02:16] <zcat[1] > !b-e
[02:16] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[02:16] <cg> i'll try
[02:17] <soundray> tarun: ubotu's reply was for you.
[02:17] <cafuego_> !try
[02:17] <ubotu> There is no try! There is only do, and do not.
[02:18] <tarun> thnks ubotu
[02:18] <soundray> cafuego_: you should probably attribute that to Master Yoda
[02:19] <cafuego_> soundray: Master Yoda is fictional
[02:19] <soundray> cafuego_: so?
[02:19] <cg> adjust the level is useless.
[02:21] <salmiak_> cg: then it can't be the same problem i had. :/
[02:21] <cg> is there a list to show supported sound card in ubuntu?
[02:21] <cg> i think so?
[02:21] <soundray> cg: if your card wasn't supported, you wouldn't hear sound at all.
[02:22] <cg> i mean good support, not this quality
[02:22] <salmiak_> cg: what player do you use to play your music files?
[02:22] <salmiak_> xmms?
[02:22] <cg> xmms
[02:23] <c0lored> how would i figure out what resoloution my second monitor is running at?
[02:23] <salmiak_> cg, have you checked if you use alsa as your output?
[02:23] <eistFloripas> iwasupdatinmysystenwenwaspowerfailurenowicannotusespaceandvariousletters.
[02:24] <cg> i try to use alsa but met some problem
[02:24] <sliipy> to make an automated installer.. that just asks for hostname and disk partitioning.. is that hard?
[02:24] <metatag> lol
[02:24] <ferronica> any one here using PPPOE connection
[02:24] <ferronica> with ADSL
[02:24] <metatag> yup I am
[02:24] <salmiak_> cg, what problem?
[02:24] <_jason> eistFloripas: use dots instead of spaces until your resolve this :)
[02:24] <ferronica> metatag: r u using???
[02:24] <cg> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=VIA&card=VIA+southbridge+AC97+audio.&chip=VIA82C686%2C+VIA8233%2C+VIA8233A%2C+VIA8235%2C+VIA8237&module=via82xx
[02:25] <metatag> ferronica : I use PPP0 rather
[02:25] <soundray> !pppoe
[02:25] <ubotu> from memory, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[02:25] <cg> i follow this direction to install and cannot compile the alsa-utils
[02:25] <_jason> !info alsa-utils
[02:25] <ubotu> alsa-utils: (ALSA utilities), section sound, is important. Version: 1.0.9a-4ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 1004 kB, Installed size: 1808 kB
[02:25] <cg> while ./configure it tells me need curses lib
[02:25] <metatag> ferronica : whats the prob?
[02:26] <eistFloripas> ok.i.can.not.use.various.letters.not.even.issue.simple.commands.like.cd.to.a.directory.in.te.prompt!Can.someone.elp.me?
[02:26] <_jason> cg: why are you compiling it?
[02:26] <soundray> ubotu, pppoe is Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[02:26] <ubotu> ...but pppoe is already something else...
[02:26] <cg> i just follow the install guide
[02:26] <ferronica> metatag: u got external modem too and u use dial up type to connect internet...
[02:26] <_jason> cg: it's in the repositories
[02:26] <cg> i am a new comer of linux so...
[02:27] <cg> true?
[02:27] <_jason> cg: you can install alsa-utils if you open system > administration > synaptic
[02:27] <gnomefreak> lol soundray you have to use forget ... or use the editing way of doing it and im not sure how that works lol
[02:27] <metatag> ferronica :  yeah thats right
[02:27] <metatag> ferronica : I have a sagem fast 800 modem
[02:27] <metatag> ferronica : Its a usb modem
[02:27] <soundray> ubotu, no, pppoe is Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[02:27] <ubotu> soundray: okay
[02:28] <ferronica> metatag: ok, tell me them how to use it in ubuntu as we use it in windows
[02:28] <soundray> !pppoe
[02:28] <ubotu> pppoe is, like, Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[02:28] <soundray> gnomefreak: worked.
[02:28] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:28] <gnomefreak> i forgot about the no
[02:28] <metatag> ferronica : well personally i used the eagle-usb drivers
[02:28] <ferronica> metatag: now if i wanna to disconnect it what i do?
[02:29] <metatag> ferronica : sudo stopadsl
[02:29] <ferronica> metatag: bcoz there is no dialer in ubuntu, at the time of booting i switched ON the modem
[02:29] <ferronica> metatag: u mean to disconnect???
[02:29] <salmiak_> Spunky_Alven, pcg-forum? Just curious... ;)
[02:29] <eistFloripas> can.i.update.my.keymaps.in.some.way?
[02:30] <ferronica> metatag: how did u created the PPPOE connection in ur ubuntu>>>
[02:30] <ferronica> ??
[02:30] <metatag> ferronica : yeah i use : sudo stopadsl to stop
[02:30] <metatag> ferronica : download eagle-usb drivers
[02:30] <metatag> ferronica : compile and install
[02:30] <eistFloripas> In.synaptic.says.tat.no.packae.is.broken.
[02:30] <ferronica> metatag: i use lan card to connect my modem to PC
[02:30] <metatag> ferronica : pretty easy infact
[02:31] <Spunky_Alven> yep it's me salmiak_
[02:31] <salmiak_> ;D
[02:31] <ferronica> metatag: dont hav USB connection
[02:31] <soundray> eistFloripas: look at /var/log/installer/ -- the most recent file in there should tell you what was installing when the powercut happened. Just reinstall that package.
[02:32] <ferronica> metatag: Do u know ???
[02:32] <metatag> ferronica : try System > Administration > Networking
[02:33] <eistFloripas> tks
[02:34] <ferronica> metatag:  there is Ethernet and modem connection
[02:34] <soundray> eistFloripas: is the problem the same on the text console? (Ctrl-Alt-F1 to check, Alt-F7 to go back to X)
[02:34] <patrick_king> hello
[02:34] <patrick_king> hello
[02:34] <patrick_king> sorry
[02:34] <metatag> ferronica : is your connection active in Networking?
[02:34] <ferronica> metatag:  there is Ethernet and modem connection
[02:35] <ferronica> metatag:  In both Activate option is DIM
[02:35] <eistFloripas> yep.the.same.crtl.and.alt.keys.are.not.working.
[02:35] <patrick_king> can anyone help me, im trying to add a login bit on my .php website(so some pages can only be viewed by members), how would i add this feature to it
[02:35] <soundray> eistFloripas: have you rebooted since the first boot after the powercut?
[02:36] <eistFloripas> Ops. Strangely it working now!
[02:36] <salmiak_> :D
[02:36] <ferronica> metatag:  :(
[02:36] <_jason> eistFloripas: except your s is accented
[02:36] <eistFloripas> Yes. I had rebooted other times.
[02:36] <metatag> ferronica : is you modem correctly connected to your lan card?
[02:36] <ferronica> metatag:  yes,
[02:36] <soundray> _jason: dead key effect
[02:36] <imc_> ANyone know what the --sm-disable option does to nm-applet? I can't find a man entry
[02:36] <ferronica> metatag:  thats why i am on internet
[02:37] <eistFloripas> But it didn't worked a little. I'm affraid the problem can repeat itself.
[02:37] <soundray> eistFloripas: until it does, relax and find peace ;)
[02:37] <ferronica> metatag: i wanna to know how to disconnect and connect it, As we do in windows??
[02:37] <metatag> ferronica : u mean you are currently using the modem?
[02:37] <speedie> If I have grub setup to boot linux default, and windows (manually from the grub prompt) is there a way I can choose which OS to boot when I reboot the system?
[02:37] <momo> who knows mysql.h ?
[02:37] <eistFloripas> thanks
[02:37] <ferronica> metatag: yessss :)
[02:37] <pablo_> hi! i connected my usb mouse in other usb port and now doesnt work. how do i fix this?
[02:38] <pablo_> im usign gnome and ubuntu 5.10
[02:38] <speedie> like, if I'm in linux, and I want to boot windows, can I send a command with my reboot, to choose windows automatically next time?
[02:38] <metatag> ferronica : kewl! to disconnect just unplug it :P
[02:38] <soundray> speedie: yes. Hit Esc after the BIOS messages if you don't get a menu.
[02:38] <ferronica> metatag: unplug from where???
[02:38] <pablo_> metatag: ive alredy done that
[02:38] <speedie> soundray: nah, I mean, when I issue the reboot command
[02:38] <ferronica> metatag: YOU mean switch OFF modem
[02:38] <salmiak_> soundray, automatic switch of OS at next reboot...
[02:38] <metatag> ferronica : yeah
[02:38] <soundray> speedie: oh sorry. What you want is 'sudo grub-reboot 6' where 6 is the title number in your menu.lst
[02:39] <speedie> soundray: basically, I'm too lazy to go to the server room and select the boot option :)
[02:39] <metatag> ferronica : why would you want to disconnect anyways?
[02:39] <momo> help!
[02:39] <ferronica> metatag: So there is no option for DIALER here Like we do in windows
[02:39] <speedie> soundray, thanks!
[02:39] <eistFloripas> Do you know what could be the cause to that problem, if you'd experienced something alike?
[02:39] <ferronica> metatag: sometime if i wanna to do,
[02:39] <metatag> ferronica : try System > Administration > Networking .. do you get the option to desactivate?
[02:39] <soundray> speedie: grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v 0
[02:39] <ferronica> metatag: yes there is
[02:39] <soundray> speedie: the numbering starts at 0
[02:39] <speedie> soundray: thanks
[02:40] <metatag> ferronica : thats your disconnect
[02:40] <Milo-> hey there, could someone tell me where could i get drivers for my canon pixma mp110 printer?
[02:40] <ferronica> metatag: Oh Okay
[02:40] <metatag> ferronica : to reconnect only activate it
[02:40] <momo> who gonna pick me up ? lord
[02:40] <soundray> !ask
[02:40] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[02:40] <ferronica> metatag: you use internet over telephone line???
[02:40] <metatag> ferronica : yeah
[02:40] <captine> i need help setting up ati.  have followed wiki, and now need to enter amount of video memory in kB.  is it 1meg = 1024kB?
[02:40] <ferronica> metatag: Kool like :)
[02:41] <metatag> ferronica : crappy adsl from mauritius
[02:41] <captine> just wanting to be sure
[02:41] <metatag> ferronica : :)
[02:41] <ferronica> metatag: Whats ur speed???
[02:41] <metatag> ferronica : 128
[02:41] <metatag> ferronica : :(
[02:41] <ferronica> metatag: but mine ADSL works great
[02:41] <salmiak_> captine, that's correct...
[02:41] <ompaul> capiCrimm, it is
[02:41] <momo> my mamami~~~~~
[02:41] <Milo-> hey there, could someone tell me where could i get drivers for my canon pixma mp110 printer?
[02:41] <momo> help
[02:41] <momo> help
[02:42] <captine> salmiak_, thanx
[02:42] <metatag> ferronica : I wish i had an ethernet modem.. wud not have to go thru startadsl and stuffs
[02:42] <soundray> !tell momo about ask
[02:42] <ferronica> metatag: i got 512 Kbps, and gettin 70 KBPS download speed
[02:42] <gnomefreak> momo: what is wrong?
[02:42] <ompaul> !patience
[02:42] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[02:42] <momo> mysql.h
[02:42] <metatag> ferronica : am getting only about 13 KBPS
[02:42] <soundray> Milo-: I don't think there are any.
[02:42] <soundray> momo: that isn't a question.
[02:42] <momo> the compiler can't find it when the c program acess mysql
[02:42] <metatag> ferronica : guess the contention ratio is high
[02:42] <Milo-> well anything what would get my printer to work ;?
[02:42] <speedie> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n-6oEcAZ80&search=novell
[02:42] <balor> Milo-, if it's supported the drivers should already be on your ssytem.  have a look at linux-printing.org to see if it's supported
[02:43] <ferronica> metatag: why dont u upgrade it, to 512mbps or 1Mbps
[02:43] <soundray> momo, what are you compiling?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> momo: try installing build-essential
[02:43] <momo> i don't know which package have this file
[02:43] <momo> a simple c program access mysql database
[02:43] <metatag> ferronica : u see adsl is quite costly here in mauritius
[02:43] <tarun> is there a package for libxvidcore-devel on ubuntu
[02:43] <soundray> Milo-: ask Canon to support free driver development please.
[02:43] <ferronica> metatag: As i did, i just called up my ISP to upgrade my speed to 1Mbps
[02:43] <Milo-> heht thanks ill look into these
[02:43] <soundray> Milo-: until then, you may get something from Turboprint if you pay for it.
[02:43] <gnomefreak> momo: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:43] <Milo-> and yes my printer is in the turboprint list
[02:44] <metatag> ferronica : where are you from?
[02:44] <ferronica> metatag: Singapore
[02:44] <ferronica> metatag: how do u connect ur external modem to PC
[02:44] <metatag> ferronica : well through usb
[02:44] <AlinuxSOS> hello, how can I fix my session program lauching, I don't want any program to lauch... but I have 7-8 programas in startup in automatic.
[02:45] <gnomefreak> momo: that should clear up any C issues but now for mysql.h that im not sure about so if what i said doesnt work try #sql to find out where to get it
[02:45] <AlinuxSOS> and my session saving is not enabled.
[02:45] <ferronica> metatag: but i heared USB is better then Lan connected
[02:45] <visik7> http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+mandriva%2C+mandrake&ctab=0&date=all&geo=all <- :)
[02:45] <metatag> ferronica : no lan shud be better
[02:45] <metatag> ferronica : see u are using internet without connecting or disconnecting
[02:45] <captine> salmiak_, should i enable kernal framebuffer
[02:45] <ferronica> metatag: Why so
[02:46] <metatag> ferronica : i need to get the driver that will emulate a lan
[02:46] <metatag> ferronica : compile it
[02:46] <ferronica> metatag: but in only ubuntu, in Xp i hav to use dialer to connect internet
[02:46] <soundray> momo: you will need a client development library installed. Try "apt-cache search lib mysql client dev" for a list
[02:46] <salmiak_> captine, tbh, i have no idea...it sounds like something useful... ;)
[02:46] <ompaul> AlinuxSOS, in system preferences sessions you may find a startup tab and in there those programs may live, of course that is if they are gui programs if they are servers you need to install "bum" boot up manager and use it to turn off the aforementioned programs
[02:47] <captine> cool.  brb - if my reboot works
[02:47] <metatag> ferronica : i believe ubuntu uses the most natural way to connect to the net
[02:47] <metatag> ferronica : esp if you have ethernet modems
[02:47] <metatag> ferronica : you only need to switch on your modem to connect
[02:47] <AlinuxSOS> ompaul, they are GUI programs, like ekiga, skype
[02:48] <AlinuxSOS> and they are lauchd automatically :D
[02:48] <metatag> ferronica : on xp did you have a username and password?
[02:48] <metatag> ferronica : gtg now. get back to work.. boss is on patrol
[02:48] <ompaul> AlinuxSOS, well now the fact your on dapper you should be in #ubuntu+1 the dapper channel
[02:48] <AlinuxSOS> ompaul, I have no programs in StartUp Programs Tab
[02:48] <metatag> ferronica : :)
[02:49] <AlinuxSOS> ompaul, ah sorry :D
[02:49] <AlinuxSOS> ompaul, thank you
[02:49] <ferronica> metatag: ya i use username and password. and in ubutu when i created pppoe connection via terminal there also it asked me for username and password...
[02:49] <ompaul> AlinuxSOS, yw
[02:49] <metatag> ferronica : kewl see it will only ask you once
[02:50] <ferronica> metatag: when will u come back, where r u in home or office
[02:50] <metatag> ferronica : office right now
[02:50] <momo> what is "apt-cache search lib mysql client dev" for ?
[02:50] <ferronica> metatag: what ISP in ur home???
[02:51] <ompaul> momo, a command line
[02:51] <metatag> ferronica : same things.. telecom plus via wanadoo
[02:51] <rg> can anyone assist with a user/pw problem
[02:51] <momo> ompaul : a command line , to do what ?
[02:51] <soundray> !anyone
[02:51] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[02:51] <ferronica> metatag: Okay, can u send me ur dialer screen shot???
[02:51] <ompaul> momo run it and feast your eyes on the output
[02:51] <dungodung> how to synchronize time with the internet time from the shell?
[02:51] <ferronica> metatag: Let me see the difference...if u dont mind
[02:51] <metatag> ferronica : well its on command line
[02:52] <soundray> dungodung: ntpdate
[02:52] <rg> installed breezy and had it looping when asked for a user/pw
[02:52] <momo> ompaul : oK , let me try
[02:52] <graveson> can someone recommend whether it would be better to wait to upgrade to breezy or do a kernel upgrade now. the reason being that firewire has improved alot in the latest kernel
[02:52] <dungodung> soundray: and in debian?
[02:52] <ferronica> metatag: ok what u do to connect to internet .....??
[02:52] <soundray> dungodung: same
[02:52] <metatag> ferronica : go onto applications > System tools > Terminal
[02:52] <rg> then I tried to use "adduser" and added then quickly deleted the user
[02:52] <metatag> ferronica : then i type in sudo startadsl
[02:52] <dungodung> soundray: what are the most common parameters?
[02:52] <metatag> ferronica : dats it
[02:53] <ferronica> metatag: everytime u hav to use terminal???
[02:53] <rg> i figured out it was trying to make the home dir on a FAT32 partition I made
[02:53] <metatag> ferronica : yup
[02:53] <rg> I whacked the FAT32 and adduser worked
[02:53] <metatag> ferronica : u ask strange questions
[02:54] <momo> libmysqlclient10-dev - LGPL-licensed client development files for MySQL databases
[02:54] <momo> libqt4-sql - Qt 4 SQL database module
[02:54] <momo> libmysqlclient12-dev - mysql database development files
[02:54] <momo> libmysqlclient14-dev - mysql database development files
[02:54] <momo> libwww-dev - The W3C WWW library - development files
[02:54] <momo> libwww-ssl-dev - The W3C WWW library - development files (SSL support)
[02:54] <ompaul> momo, don't paste in here
[02:54] <momo> O k
[02:54] <soundray> dungodung: If you configure it, you don't need options. It reads the NTPSERVERS environment variable
[02:55] <highvoltage> hi #ubuntu. is kerberos cooler than nis? and can i use it for nfs?
[02:55] <dungodung> soundray: ok, thanks
[02:55] <ferronica1> Metatag: ???
[02:55] <Gacomnet> ragazzi
[02:55] <ferronica1> Metatag: r u there???
[02:55] <Gacomnet> :o
[02:55] <momo> ompaul : do you know the way out ?
[02:55] <ompaul> momo, excuse me?
[02:56] <momo>  ompaul : thanks
[02:56] <soundray> momo: install libmysqlclient14-dev
[02:56] <deep_> Hey there.
[02:56] <deep_> :)
[02:57] <gary> I'm trying to install mplayer-586 but I'm having a dependency error on this: libdirectfb-0.9-20.  Any ideas how to resolve this or what package this would be in?
[02:57] <deep_> Can someone help me to get Quake 3 Arena (Some version between 1.11 and 1.16n) to work?
[02:57] <deep_> I only got the 1.11 version CD for windows.
[02:58] <balor> deep_, Download the Linux version from ID and it'll ask for the CD when it's installing.  That should be it!
[02:58] <deep_> balor: The pointrelease?
[02:59] <soundray> gary, just install the package: 'sudo apt-get install libdirectfb-0.9-20'
[02:59] <balor> deep_, They've got the full release there somewhere
[02:59] <deep_> soundray: Hum, dousent he have to enable the extra repositories?
[02:59] <balor> deep_, and the full release of Quake4
[02:59] <deep_> balor: Ill check. Thanx. :)
[02:59] <balor> deep_, with source code :)
[03:00] <Paradoxx> what program do you recommend to manage my pod casts, both video and audio?
[03:00] <momo> soundray : when we should install the packages like *-dev ?
[03:00] <soundray> deep_, since he installed mplayer, I was assuming he's done that.
[03:00] <soundray> momo: if they contain a file that a compilation depends on.
[03:01] <minimec> Paradoxx: For audio quodlibet seems a nice peace of software...
[03:01] <Paradoxx> do you use it?
[03:01] <minimec> Yes but not with an iPod.
[03:02] <zm0> deep_: install the pointrelease from: ftp://dl.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/idsoftware/idstuff/quake3/linux
[03:02] <zm0> deep_: and copy or symlink the pak0.pk3 in your baseq3 folder
[03:03] <gary> hah thanks soundray
[03:03] <azathoth> hey guys, is there an app i can use to pick and disable daemons? i have alot of junk for laptops/raids that i don't use and its raping my memory
[03:04] <bimberi> azathoth: bum (boot up manager)
[03:04] <azathoth> cheers
[03:04] <gfxstyler> hi
[03:04] <bimberi> !bum
[03:04] <ubotu> hmm... bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[03:04] <bimberi> azathoth: np :)
[03:04] <gfxstyler> someone here available to answer me a question related to ubuntu-shipit ?
[03:04] <soundray> !ask
[03:04] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[03:04] <McScruff> i got ubuntu on my xbox w00000000000t
[03:05] <Paradoxx> lol
[03:05] <Paradoxx> McScruff: how you managed that?
[03:05] <gfxstyler> well me and my class switched our school computers to linux, or lets say partially (30 comps)
[03:05] <McScruff> Paradoxx, found the xUbuntu distro , its made for xbox
[03:05] <gfxstyler> now i wanna order a few ubuntu cds lets say 50-100
[03:05] <soundray> McScruff: excellent. Can I send you my PocketPC, so you can put it on that as well?
[03:06] <gfxstyler> so ppl can take them home and stuff
[03:06] <momo> soundray : the libclient14-dev package doesn't work either
[03:06] <McScruff> soundray, nooo, this was pre-built
[03:06] <gfxstyler> so in short, my question is: can i order 50-100 ubuntu cds without needing some special "reason" or paper or whatever?
[03:06] <ashlar> Would anyone be able to help me with compiling Smaug in Ubuntu?  It's giving me a couple errors.
[03:07] <momo> soundray : it works , thank you , dude
[03:08] <soundray> gfxstyler: try it, I think the order will just go through.
[03:08] <gfxstyler> soundray: okay, thanks
[03:08] <gfxstyler> soundray: are there shipit versions of xubuntu too?
[03:08] <gfxstyler> the school computers suck and xfce runs much faster on them
[03:09] <soundray> gfxstyler: I don't know. If there aren't any now, I guess there will be at some point.
[03:09] <soundray> !shipit
[03:09] <ubotu> For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[03:09] <captine> it really concerns me that my notebook fan never seems to come on when in ubuntu.  only when i reboot to windows.  weird
[03:09] <gfxstyler> captine: why?
[03:10] <gfxstyler> captine: if the notebook doesnt get hot, there should be no problem
[03:10] <captine> gfxstyler, the thing is, when i reboot, the fan comes on, and the air behing pushed out is really hot
[03:10] <gfxstyler> captine: just feel if the notebook is really hot, if so, that could be bad
[03:10] <soundray> captine: check that you've got files in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone -- if you do, you're fine.
[03:11] <captine> gfxstyler, and it stays on for a long time.  am looking for lmsensors info now
[03:11] <gary> soundray: I tried installing libdirectfb-0.9-20 but it said it had been replaced with libdirectfb-0.9-22 instead.  So I installed this.  But when trying to install mplayer it still came up with a dependency error on libdirectfb-0.9-20 which I don't think is available
[03:11] <captine> suppose the actual notebook doesnt feel hot
[03:11] <gfxstyler> i noticed my notebook powers on the fan more often when using windows
[03:11] <soundray> gary: did you run apt-get update recently?
[03:11] <gfxstyler> but when im on linux its mostly quiet
[03:12] <McScruff> gfxstyler, could it be that linux uses less resources and so it doesnt work as hard :O
[03:12] <gfxstyler> McScruff: no
[03:12] <captine> soundray, i have a folder /proc etc.  whet i use cat on the temperature, it says 0 degrees and cooling method is passive?
[03:12] <captine> soundray, what does that mean?
[03:13] <gfxstyler> captine: whats your notebook cpu?
[03:13] <alex_joni> hello, does anyone know something about customizing a LiveCD ? (especially changing the kernel)
[03:13] <captine> gfxstyler, turion
[03:13] <gfxstyler> captine: thats amd 64 right?
[03:13] <soundray> captine: that means that it's probably not reading your temperature correctly.
[03:13] <captine> gfxstyler, yeh
[03:13] <captine> soundray, gfxstyler what can i do to fix it?
[03:14] <captine> before chip is fried
[03:14] <McScruff> is it under warrenty?
[03:14] <gfxstyler> captine: well if the notebook itself doesnt get hot it should be no problem or do i misunderstand anything?
[03:14] <gfxstyler> captine: also, when it gets too hot, it should shutdown automatically
[03:14] <captine> gfxstyler, I'm just concerned that as soon as i reboot, the fan will come on for an extended period of time
[03:15] <captine> gfxstyler, also, i sat at grub screen for 5 minutes, waiting for the air comin from the notebook to cool down
[03:15] <toverton> can anyone tell me where xorg.conf is in flight7?
[03:15] <captine> McScruff, it is under warranty.
[03:15] <soundray> captine: do a ls /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/ -- if you have a state file in there, run 'cat /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state'.
[03:15] <gfxstyler> toverton: same as usual , /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:15] <bimberi> toverton: /etc/X11 ?
[03:15] <toverton> hmm
[03:15] <toverton> cant find it.
[03:16] <gary> soundray: yea, just a few minutes ago
[03:16] <gary> I'll try again
[03:16] <gfxstyler> toverton: not possible
[03:16] <McScruff> captine, then let it burn out and get a new 1 :)
[03:16] <gfxstyler> toverton: if you deleted it xorg uses the default
[03:16] <toverton> what do you mean, not possible?
[03:16] <soundray> captine: if the output makes sense, try 'echo enable >/proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state' (at least I think that's the syntax)
[03:16] <gfxstyler> toverton: ubuntu creates one for you
[03:16] <toverton> cd /etc/x11 : No such file or directory
[03:16] <gfxstyler> toverton: wtf? lol
[03:16] <bimberi> toverton: X (capital)
[03:16] <gfxstyler> oh yeah
[03:17] <gary> soundray: still the same problem: "mplayer-586: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20 but it is not installable"
[03:17] <gfxstyler> bimberi is right
[03:17] <toverton> frikkin DUH!
[03:17] <toverton> god im an idiot
[03:17] <gfxstyler> toverton: in linux everything is case sensible
[03:17] <toverton> but ls didnt show the dir in etc either...
[03:17] <toverton> yeah, and I know that... thats the sad part.
[03:17] <gfxstyler> :)
[03:17] <bimberi> toverton: my turn later i'm sure :)
[03:17] <cart> Hi, im trying a multi-seat configuration in breezy with Xephyr, but its using evdev and the keyboard layout is broken... the same configuration works fine in Warty
[03:17] <ferronica> Any one here using ADSL modem(pppoe DIALER)???
[03:18] <toverton> Im using VPC2004, and I need to change the bit depth
[03:18] <captine> soundray, there is a folder /proc/acpi/fan, but nothing else in it :/
[03:18] <alex_joni> need help customizing a LiveCD ? (especially changing the kernel)
[03:18] <ferronica> ubotu: pppoe
[03:18] <ubotu> I guess pppoe is Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[03:19] <soundray> captine, are you on 2.6.12?
[03:19] <GingerDog> Hi, I've installed Breezy on what was a Sarge server; and somehow it keeps picking up the old S/W RAID volumes; the partitions are marked as just Linux; am I missing a config file?
[03:19] <captine> soundray, how do i check?
[03:19] <captine> sorry, fairly new
[03:19] <toverton> ok I got it...
[03:19] <soundray> captine, uname -a
[03:19] <GingerDog> (i.e. /proc/mdstat continues to have contents, for a particular array, even though I don't want it to)
[03:19] <toverton> damn, I feel dumb sometimes.
[03:20] <captine> 2.6.12-10
[03:20] <captine> soundray, i am running 32 bit ubuntu and not the 64 bit version
[03:20] <toverton> Hey, its M$'s fault... If they supported 24bpp, then this would not be a problem for me.
[03:21] <soundray> captine: ACPI support has changed quite a bit on the way to Dapper Drake. You may have to upgrade to get better support.
[03:21] <jayson> hahaha
[03:21] <soundray> captine: what laptop make&model is it?
[03:21] <odyssey> hello
[03:21] <captine> soundray, presario v5120nr
[03:21] <toverton> it looks like I may have to make some more changes
[03:21] <captine> soundray, is there no way to force the fan to come on, even if it's on permanently?
[03:22] <odyssey> how do i upgrade to dapper when the time comes ,
[03:22] <Seveas> odyssey, sudo update-manager -d
[03:22] <odyssey> thankyou
[03:23] <gfxstyler> captine: i just noticed the fan beeing more quiet since i used dapper and my hard-disk doesnt get so hot anymore too (and the battery lasts longer)
[03:23] <soundray> captine: I don't think so, but I haven't understood ACPI well enough to be sure.
[03:23] <gfxstyler> but maybe it was just some wrong setting on breezy or hoary
[03:24] <soundray> captine: if I were you, I would try a dapper upgrade. But since it's still in beta, it's not recommended for production machines. Matter of taste, really.
[03:25] <martinc> hi is there anyone who could help me setup apache 2 on the warty release of ubuntu?
[03:25] <captine> soundray, if i upgrade now, it will simply mean that i check for updates weekly etc.  i won't need to re-download it when final release comes
[03:25] <soundray> captine: you could download a dapper live CD, boot that and see if you get files in /proc/acpi/fan and sensible temperature readouts as well.
[03:26] <soundray> captine: that's right.
[03:26] <soundray> captine: it's a gradual process.
[03:26] <captine> soundray, can i upgrade from 5.10 straight, or must i /l the whole cd
[03:26] <captine> *d/l
[03:27] <soundray> captine: no, you can do a net upgrade with 'sudo update-manager -d'
[03:27] <gfxstyler> captine: dapper works without a flaw here
[03:28] <odyssey> is anybody using dapper right now
[03:28] <RandolphCarter> odyssey: yes
[03:28] <captine> soundray, sorry for all the q's but i only get like 50k d/l.  i only have 1.5 hours left of internet time.  is the d/l huge?
[03:28] <gfxstyler> odyssey: yes
[03:28] <anto9us> odyssey, yes
[03:28] <gfxstyler> captine: better download the cd or even better... wait
[03:28] <kettenschutz> hey
[03:28] <odyssey> is it ok or is there major bugs still
[03:28] <soundray> odyssey: yes
[03:28] <ferronica> Any one here using ADSL modem(pppoe DIALER)???
[03:28] <kettenschutz> how to convert kword files in doc files?
[03:28] <ferronica> Any one here using ADSL modem(pppoe DIALER)???
[03:29] <ferronica> need some help???
[03:29] <soundray> kettenschutz: File-Save As ?
[03:29] <gfxstyler> captine: you would have to download around 600-whatever mb anyway so you can also just download the iso image (so you can re-use it)
[03:29] <prefect_> hi there good people
[03:29] <gfxstyler> odyssey: no bugs here
[03:29] <gfxstyler> odyssey: except some alacarte stuff
[03:29] <ferronica>  ADSL modem(pppoe DIALER) USER please HIT my name...
[03:29] <soundray> gfxstyler: that's a daring statement ;)
[03:30] <prefect_> i run ubuntu amd64, how can i make apt look in binary-i386 for a specific apt-source?
[03:30] <Amaranth> gfxstyler: alacarte stuff?
[03:30] <RandolphCarter> and mathematically impossible :)
[03:30] <RandolphCarter> and yeah, alacarte could do with some work
[03:30] <gfxstyler> soundray: a daring statement? what do you mean :)
[03:30] <Amaranth> :(
[03:30] <RandolphCarter> gfxstyler: "you can never prove the absence of bugs, only their presence"
[03:30] <soundray> gfxstyler: ask RandolphCarter
[03:30] <gfxstyler> RandolphCarter: so lets say, i just didnt notice some atm ;)
[03:30] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter, gfxstyler: What bugs are you running into in alacarte?
[03:30] <RandolphCarter> besides, we haven't proved P=NP yet :)
[03:30] <ferronica>  ADSL modem(pppoe DIALER) user plese HIT My NAME...:l
[03:31] <odyssey> whsts alacarte stuf
[03:31] <gfxstyler> Amaranth: i removed the java menu entries and the scim input entries, but they are still there
[03:31] <gfxstyler> Amaranth: it seems to ignore it
[03:31] <RandolphCarter> Amaranth: it has some severe trouble moving its own menu item into preferences (took two/three tries, and I wasn't watching on the terminal for errors)
[03:31] <Amaranth> gfxstyler, RandolphCarter: Ah, those things.
[03:31] <gfxstyler> oh yeah, and frostwire doesnt work anymore
[03:31] <gfxstyler> so actually that are 2 bugs
[03:32] <gfxstyler> AND another big bug!! omg
[03:32] <gfxstyler> or i dunno if its a bug
[03:32] <gfxstyler> but you have to add libstdc++ to you linker settings because its not included by default
[03:32] <Amaranth> gfxstyler: I can hide SCIM without problems.
[03:32] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: And I just moved alacarte's menu item to preferences, no troubles
[03:33] <RandolphCarter> Amaranth: you must've sacrificed a goat beforehand..
[03:33] <odyssey> i have a qick question about samba,,,,, I can see my other pc on the network but when im attempting to acess files it gives me a authentication error
[03:33] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: hehe
[03:33] <ferronica>  ADSL modem(pppoe DIALER) user plese HIT My NAME...:l
[03:34] <RandolphCarter> Amaranth: it was doing weird stuff, like duplicating the menu entry, sometimes up to three times
[03:34] <nagi> hi everyone
[03:34] <RandolphCarter> but fixed itself when it ran next..
[03:34] <odyssey> hello
[03:34] <RandolphCarter> hi nagi
[03:34] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: I do see that it doesn't show it in Preferences when you drop it there.
[03:34] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: But it is actually moved after the first time, if you check your menus.
[03:34] <variant> anyone know a program for creating flowcharts?
[03:35] <RandolphCarter> Amaranth: odd, it was showing up in Alacarte okay for me, but not in the menus
[03:35] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: hehe
[03:35] <gfxstyler_> damn
[03:35] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: I've started to get tired of fixing bugs in 0.8 but 0.9 can't get into dapper
[03:35] <gfxstyler_> stupid router
[03:36] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: 0.8 has all these weird things that happen
[03:36] <zm0> variant: variant dia is ok
[03:36] <gfxstyler_> Amaranth: are you talking about alacarte?
[03:36] <RandolphCarter> Amaranth: ahh, okay, you got a URL I can fetch the CVS/SVN from?
[03:36] <soundray> Where did I misplace my USB extension lead?
[03:36] <Amaranth> gfxstyler_: yeah
[03:36] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: Only if you want to build gnome-menus from CVS as well.
[03:36] <alex_joni> need help customizing a LiveCD ? (especially changing the kernel)
[03:37] <RandolphCarter> Amaranth: feck that, I meant the 0.8 tree so I can patch..
[03:37] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: nope, i don't have any cvs/svn for 0.8
[03:37] <RandolphCarter> I'll check gnome.org though, didn't know it was official :)
[03:37] <ferronica>  ADSL modem(pppoe DIALER) user plese HIT My NAME...:l
[03:37] <Amaranth> ferronica: please stop
[03:38] <soundray> alex_joni: check out dfsbuild:
[03:38] <soundray> !info dfsbuild
[03:38] <ubotu> dfsbuild: (Build Debian From Scratch CD/DVD images), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.6.20 (breezy), Packaged size: 1047 kB, Installed size: 2920 kB
[03:38] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: The most up-to-date source for alacarte is in ubuntu.
[03:38] <alex_joni> soundray: thx
[03:38] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: apt-get source alacarte
[03:38] <Amaranth> for 0.8, i mean
[03:39] <RandolphCarter> Amaranth: thanks, I'll check it out
[03:39] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: The code is a bit scary.
[03:39] <RandolphCarter> Amaranth: it's python, so at least it'll be readable :)
[03:39] <Amaranth> not really
[03:39] <RandolphCarter> erk :/
[03:39] <odyssey> what is alacarte
[03:40] <ferronica> ok sorry if i flooded the room very sorry
[03:40] <Amaranth> odyssey: gnome menu editor
[03:40] <odyssey> ok
[03:40] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: it's got lots of "wtf does this do?" code in it
[03:41] <gfxstyler> Amaranth: what?
[03:41] <gfxstyler> lol
[03:41] <gfxstyler> so the developers dont know what they are actually doing?
[03:41] <Amaranth> <--developer
[03:41] <gfxstyler> oh, sorry ;)
[03:41] <RandolphCarter> Amaranth: I see what you mean, guess it is dealing with arcane stuff, I'm hoping I can steer clear of the all that gtk stuff for fixing this though
[03:41] <transporte> ?
[03:42] <transporte> hello
[03:42] <Amaranth> Most of the "wtf does this do?" code is working around the slowness of pyxdg and bugs in gnome-menus
[03:42] <RandolphCarter> comments :(
[03:42] <Amaranth> none :P
[03:42] <transporte> ?
[03:42] <gteppel> I'm running Ubuntu Breezy and just bought a Samsung ML-2010 Mono Laser Printer, i plugged the printer into the computer using a USB cable but when I issue a "lsusb" I don't get any devices. What step should I take next?
[03:42] <bimberi> c'mon it's written in python
[03:42] <Amaranth> except for "UGLY AS SIN BUT IT WORKS SO DON'T TOUCH IT" and etc
[03:42] <gfxstyler> i dont like to make comments in code ... lazyness
[03:43] <bimberi> no comments needed :P
[03:43] <Amaranth> bimberi: wanna bet? :P
[03:43] <soundray> gteppel: is the printer on?
[03:43] <gteppel> yes
[03:43] <RandolphCarter> bimberi: that's true, apart from when you try to figure out what they've packed into that list
[03:44] <bimberi> RandolphCarter: :)
[03:44] <soundray> gteppel: have you got any other usb devices that you can test?
[03:44] <gteppel> umm sure one second
[03:44] <gteppel> i'll plug in a mouse
[03:45] <dyn> problem: at install time I had no network available. later on I edited /etc/network/interfaces but still '/etc/init.d/networking restart' does not pull up eth0. how can I fix this? (the box was installed in server mode so no X11/gui clients are available)
[03:45] <Amaranth> bimberi: http://rafb.net/paste/results/oSfNKu83.html
[03:45] <gteppel> soundray: doesn't work either, I think its a bios setting
[03:45] <gteppel> soundray: usb is probably disabled
[03:45] <gteppel> brb
[03:46] <RandolphCarter> heh, _MenuEditor__undoMoves is pretty ugly too
[03:46] <fourat> am having network problems with ubuntu on my laptop, the computer freezes when downloading or uploading a big file (over 500Mb) via scp or ftp to/form other computers in the network, other symptoms is that it freezes when executing tcpdump at shell console
[03:46] <Amaranth> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ITCTJD24.html
[03:46] <Amaranth> RandolphCarter: yep
[03:46] <dbzdeath> hey i get this weird thing.. when watching movies there is this sort of flicker in some scenes.. it also happens in games(i think) i have a nvidia geforce 6800 ultra.. could anyone help? or point me in the right direction
[03:46] <RandolphCarter> dbzdeath: vsync
[03:46] <ferronica> #linux
[03:46] <ferronica> ##linux
[03:46] <dbzdeath> RandolphCarter: mm what about it?
[03:47] <battlecat> Hi I was wonmdering is there anyway to restrict a linux distro to use 100% GNOME libraries and not use KDE. In other words I know that many apps use KDE libraries and such but is there a way to set synaptic to restrict those?
[03:47] <bimberi> Amaranth: eww :)
[03:47] <Amaranth> bimberi: Say thank you to pyxdg and gnome-menus. :P
[03:47] <RandolphCarter> dbzdeath: well, that'll be the problem, for the movie player (you're using mplayer or xine?) there's probably a config option somewhere
[03:48] <dbzdeath> RandolphCarter: yeah but i'm pretty sure it's not just video and there doesn't seem to be a vsync option in the video panel in the settings of mplayer
[03:49] <RandolphCarter> dbzdeath: does it sometimes look like a tear half-way down the screen?
[03:49] <recyclebin> lol
[03:49] <dbzdeath> RandolphCarter: mmm sort of yes
[03:50] <dbzdeath> not a constant thing but happens when the camera moves fast... i think
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> dbzdeath: it's vsync then :) from that quick google, mplayer only supports vsync in SVGA mode, you may want to look at xine
[03:50] <dbzdeath> RandolphCarter: is there a way to globally fix it? somehow?
[03:50] <dyn> problem: at install time I had no network available. later on I edited /etc/network/interfaces but still '/etc/init.d/networking restart' does not pull up eth0. how can I fix this? (the box was installed in server mode so no X11/gui clients are available)
[03:50] <dyn> anyone have a clue on this?
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> dbzdeath: there may be an option to turn vsync on in your xorg.conf, I've never used the nvidia drivers though
[03:51] <dyn> if I reboot the box, eth0 is configured correctly but networking restart makes eth0 offline again
[03:51] <RandolphCarter> dyn: you have a line 'auto eth0' in your interfaces file?
[03:52] <dyn> RandolphCarter: no i dont, i only have it for the local interface. i should have one?
[03:52] <RandolphCarter> dyn: yeah, try it
[03:53] <dyn> RandolphCarter: fixed it. thank you :)
[03:53] <RandolphCarter> dyn: np's :)
[03:53] <Pons> hey guys, need some advices here..
[03:53] <Pons> anyone knows if I can make an ubuntu setup boot on other pc's over network (using PXE)
[03:54] <soundray> Pons, check out LTSP
[03:54] <soundray> !ltsp
[03:54] <ubotu> ltsp is, like, totally, the Linux Terminal Server Project - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy).  See also http://www.ltsp.org/
[03:56] <Relampago> hi
[03:56] <Relampago> i have connected a firewire drive to my pc, where can i access it or where does ubuntu mount it ?
[03:56] <ferronica> soundray: hello
[03:56] <soundray> ferronica: hi
[03:56] <battlecat>  I am not sure if this is the correct room for this but I am trying to figure out what packages I need to get to have a fully working c, c++ compiler on an ubuntu linux distro
[03:56] <soundray> !b-e
[03:56] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[03:56] <gfxstyler> battlecat: build-essential
[03:57] <ferronica> soundray: do u use ADSL???
[03:57] <soundray> ferronica: yes
[03:57] <gfxstyler> battlecat: optionally: libtool, autoconf, automake
[03:57] <ferronica> soundray: i need help regarding ADSL....
[03:57] <ferronica> soundray: Over telephone line right
[03:58] <soundray> ferronica: right.
[03:59] <ferronica> soundray: Via terminal i hav configured the pppoe connection, now evertime when i boot my computer internet ready to use no need to dial using dialer as we use in window(XP), now how same thing we can do here
[04:00] <soundray> ferronica: 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop' to disable ADSL, 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking start' to reenable.
[04:00] <battlecat> I have not programmed on a unix like system ever but I started using adjunta and no problem so far. Of course I am still just doing terminal programs and have not yet tried the GUI GLADE interfaces
[04:00] <Kirsten> hi
[04:00] <ferronica> soundray: how to watch my bandwidth monitor,
[04:01] <C3s4r> Buenas
[04:01] <takedown> !jp
[04:01] <ubotu> it has been said that jp is Japan
[04:02] <brandon_> there are 132 packages int eh dapper upgrade list this morning
[04:03] <Relampago> no body knows where firewire disks are mounted ?
[04:03] <captine> hi there.  i am trying to install cpuburn to check if my system fan comes on.  anyone help on how i can find out if it is in the repository?
[04:04] <zm0> captine: apt-cache search cpuburn
[04:04] <captine> zm0, thnkx
[04:04] <zm0> np!
[04:05] <Gibson> hiya
[04:05] <Gibson> How do I register with the free nodes?
[04:06] <Gibson> funkyHat LOL
[04:06] <funkyHat> Gibson, ?
[04:06] <Gibson> funkyHat, wanna be friends?
[04:06] <Gibson> I'm in the UK too
[04:07] <funkyHat> Gibson, sure hehe, pm me
[04:07] <funkyHat> I'll chat later though... I'm going outside for a bit... can't waste the lovely weather :D
[04:07] <gnomefreak> Gibson: to regesiter with freenode type in server tab /msg nickserv register <yourpassword>  without the <>
[04:08] <gnomefreak> Gibson: if Gibson is the name you want to register
[04:08] <SportsJock> Got one!
[04:08] <funkyHat> /msg nickserv help should tell you all you need to know (and /msg nickserv help register)
[04:08] <SportsJock> I'm registered!!!!
[04:08] <Guest584> hi
[04:09] <SportsJock> gnomefreak u are my friend
[04:09] <SportsJock> Edenshaw hi
[04:09] <Edenshaw> hihi
[04:09] <dbzdeath> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=981841&postcount=3 does anyone know where that would be placed for kdm?
[04:09] <Guest584> anyone know when the new version will release
[04:09] <soundray> !dapper
[04:09] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:09] <captine> Guest584, june
[04:09] <Guest584> ohh thx
[04:10] <ferronica> hey r u there
[04:10] <bongshew> what would hdd1 translate to in GRUBspeak?
[04:10] <SportsJock> bongshew -  df1:
[04:10] <funkyHat|away> bongshew, hd3,0
[04:10] <SportsJock> why hd3,0?
[04:10] <bongshew> that sounds right
[04:10] <slackern> hehe df1:) no that would be floppy station #2 on an amiga :)
[04:10] <SportsJock> what does the 3 mean?
[04:11] <bongshew> thats what i thought actually, just checking.. must have another option wrong
[04:11] <bongshew> thanks funkyHat|away
[04:11] <[Utah] tristanbob> does anyone automate updates using cron?
[04:11] <SportsJock> lol slackern ur cool :))))
[04:11] <funkyHat|away> bongshew, might need ()s round it... not sure
[04:11] <captine> anyone know where a lmsensors howto is for ubuntu?
[04:11] <captine> struggling to find
[04:11] <gnomefreak> !sensors
[04:11] <ubotu> it has been said that sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> install lm_sensors, run sensor-detect I think is all ive ever done
[04:12] <funkyHat|away> [Utah] tristanbob, there is a package somewhere in apt that does that... I think it might be called cronapt?
[04:12] <SportsJock> What's the best way to deal with a bad boss?
[04:12] <[Utah] tristanbob> funkyHat|away: I will look for that.
[04:12] <ferronica> Any one help me reagarding ADSL??????
[04:12] <gnomefreak> SportsJock: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[04:12] <[Utah] tristanbob> funkyHat|away: I waws looking at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[04:14] <ferronica> Any one help me reagarding ADSL??????
[04:14] <SportsJock> ferronica - what prob?
[04:17] <zm0> dbzdeath: no need to edit your kdm init script, just put __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=1 in yout /etc/environment
[04:17] <zm0> *your
[04:20] <soundray> Please remind me, what do I have to do to enable sshd on a new installation?
[04:20] <bimberi> soundray: sudo aptitude install ssh (brings in openssh-server)
[04:21] <soundray> bimberi: got that. When I sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start, I get "fail"
[04:21] <_jason> soundray: is it running already?
[04:22] <soundray> _jason: oops, yes it was. It was not responding, though... Let me try again. (thanks bimberi)
[04:22] <bimberi> soundray: np :) (nice work _jason - as ever)
[04:23] <martinc> hi guys, i'm running ubuntu 4.10 and i've run apt-get install apache2 (which worked), apt-get install php4-cgi (which worked) and apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 (which worked), my instructions are to now run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload but that doesn't work any help would be appreciated thanks
[04:23] <soundray> _jason, bimberi: works. Thank you.
[04:24] <_jason> np
[04:25] <fourat> am having network problems with ubuntu on my laptop, the computer freezes when downloading or uploading a big file (over 500Mb) via scp or ftp to/form other computers in the network, other symptoms is that it freezes when executing tcpdump at shell console
[04:25] <ferronica> SportsJock: big problem
[04:26] <ferronica> Sportsjock: U THERE????
[04:26] <ferronica> SportsJock: ??
[04:28] <ferronica> ????
[04:28] <captine> anyone had much luck installing usb-irda dongles?
[04:28] <ferronica> Any one help me reagarding ADSL??????
[04:30] <soundray> ferronica: spend less time seeking attention, explain your problem instead.
[04:32] <ferronica> soundray: u r here
[04:32] <ferronica> soundray: ok tell me how to monitor my ADSL connection???
[04:33] <soundray> ferronica: look at the package pppstatus
[04:34] <cello_rasp> does anyone find firefox under breezy to be terrribly cpu intensive?
[04:34] <ferronica> soundray: ok
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> cello_rasp,  cant say that i have...
[04:35] <ferronica> soundray: i typed in search option pppoe and i found some 5 pppoe, from them 1 is installed
[04:35] <ferronica> soundray: what others for???
[04:35] <cello_rasp> for me there is a delay of about 10 seconds when hitting ctrl+n in firefox
[04:35] <NoUse> cello_rasp try running it from the console with 'DISABLE_PANGO=1 firefox'
[04:35] <cello_rasp> that is on a 1.6Ghz chip
[04:36] <soundray> ferronica: I don't know
[04:36] <cello_rasp> NoUse: what the holy heck????
[04:36] <ferronica> soundray: what u use then????
[04:36] <cello_rasp> incredible difference
[04:37] <NoUse> cello_rasp yeah thats a known bug, its been fixed in dapper
[04:37] <soundray> ferronica: I don't monitor ADSL. My connection is always up.
[04:37] <cello_rasp> oh my word
[04:37] <NoUse> cello_rasp if you add "DISABLE_PANGO=1" to /usr/bin/firefox it will be the default
[04:37] <ferronica> soundray: u mean at boot time it get connected
[04:37] <ferronica> soundray: u dont use dialer to connect???
[04:37] <soundray> ferronica: I don't boot either. It's always on.
[04:38] <ferronica> soundray: what???
[04:38] <cello_rasp> NoUse: anywhere in the file?
[04:38] <soundray> ferronica: I don't boot either. It's always on.
[04:38] <gnomefreak> cello_rasp: ubuntus version of ff is slower than mozillas build thanks to pango :(
[04:38] <ferronica> soundray: dont boot, u mean u never shut down ur computer
[04:39] <soundray> ferronica: not the one that handles my net connection, no.
[04:39] <funkyHat|away> gnomefreak, what even IS pango?
[04:39] <soundray> ferronica: btw, I have PPPoA, so things might be different.
[04:39] <ubuntu_user``> anyone succeeded into getting laserjet 1020 to work?
[04:39] <funkyHat|away> I probably should know, but whatever.
[04:39] <gnomefreak> funkyHat|away: when i find out for sure ill let you know
[04:40] <funkyHat> In computing, Pango is an open source library for rendering internationalized texts integrated into GTK+ 2. The name pango is from Greek "Pan" (???; lit. all) + Japanese "Go" (?; lit. language).
[04:40] <cello_rasp> it seems i am going to backup home and install dapper from clean.. too much has been messed around with on my breezy installation :)
[04:40] <gnomefreak> so its a gtk library?
[04:40] <ferronica> soundray: can u send me ur desktop screen shot, i wanna to see something
[04:40] <McScruff> where does kaffeine look for codecs?
[04:40] <soundray> ferronica: no
[04:41] <gnomefreak> McScruff: what type of file format?
[04:41] <ferronica> soundray: Why????
[04:41] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, just got that from google :P lol, looks like it
[04:41] <NoUse> cello_rasp what makes you say that?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> McScruff: you can find most of what you need at the following site
[04:41] <McScruff> gnomefreak, live streaming from the web, with the mozilla plugin
[04:41] <gnomefreak> !restricted
[04:41] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:41] <soundray> ferronica: it's work for me, and it won't help with the issue you reported here.
[04:42] <ferronica> soundray: just wanna to see what tools u hav added in ur pannel
[04:42] <soundray> ferronica: how is that going to help?
[04:42] <McScruff> gnomefreak, i got them from mplayer site and put them in /usr/lib/win32 , i think thats wrong tho
[04:42] <cello_rasp> NoUse: i can only recieve/install update notification as the first user i set up
[04:43] <gnomefreak> McScruff: all you had to do was add multiverse and run a wget command than dpkg -i it will install them where they are needed ;)
[04:43] <ferronica> soundray: thats my problem....
[04:43] <cello_rasp> NoUse: i have my current user set to have admin ability but that didn't propagate and its quite a pain!
[04:43] <gnomefreak> universe and multiverse
[04:44] <det> Beta 2 is the newest release of dapper, correct? (it postdates Flight 7?)
[04:44] <ferronica> soundray: if u send fine, or as u wish
[04:44] <gnomefreak> det: no flight 7 is latest
[04:46] <ferronica> soundray: are u sending me ur desktop screen shot?????
[04:46] <det> Why didn't they call Beta Flight 7 and now progress to Flight 8? Was it some kind of milestone?
[04:47] <soundray> ferronica: look, I've answered that question already. Your behavior strikes me as obnoxious.
[04:47] <NoUse> cello_rasp just add the new user to the same groups as the first user
[04:47] <det> I hear that there is problems with either the install or live cd of flight 7, but conflicting answers as to which, what is the truth?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> det: use the beta and upgrade flight 7 install issues have been around
[04:49] <azurehuesofblue> I'm thinking of using easyubuntu, is it safe to use at the moment?
[04:49] <variant> det: not seen anything big
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> azurehuesofblue,  best to elarn how to install the stuff manually
[04:50] <cello_rasp> NoUse: i'd like to remove the first user group and account without losing the ability to do various things..
[04:51] <haakonn_> stupid gam_server cpu hog
[04:53] <engla> is there a way to preload any application? I want gedit and galeon to be programs that always come instant-on (not the 5-10 sec wait) if I click their launchers. Possible?
[04:53] <r0xoR> engla, all programs are like that on linux iirc
[04:53] <r0xoR> engla, firefox 1.5 launches near instantaneously for me... and my system isn't really that fast
[04:54] <r0xoR> engla, galeon = teh suxors :)
[04:55] <mugzie> um can someone help im sorry im kind NEW TO UBUNTU JUST INSTALLED YESTERDAY I HAVE a question
[04:55] <r0xoR> !caps
[04:55] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[04:55] <cello_rasp> mugzie: shoot :)
[04:55] <r0xoR> mugzie, just ask your question
[04:55] <_jason> mugzie: just ask your question, no need to ask for permission to ask :)
[04:55] <engla> r0xoR: well you're wrong, many apps take a long time to load on my system. So I want a starter (preloader) for the most important ones
[04:55] <mugzie> o im sorry my finger slipt im on a laptop and the keyboard is not good
[04:55] <imc_> ANyone know what the --sm-disable option does to nm-applet? I can't find a man entry
[04:55] <engla> r0xoR: galeon has nicer tab handling by default and has a gtk2 interface
[04:56] <r0xoR> engla, no i beleive i'm right... by "are like that" i didn't mean "launches within microseconds"
[04:56] <r0xoR> engla, firefox has extensions... QED
[04:56] <r0xoR> engla, firefox also has it's *own* themes :)
[04:56] <mugzie> ok yes my ubuntu us running sluggish and when i posted on the forum they said try xubuntu problem is how would i do that idk what to do anyone can help im new
[04:56] <engla> r0xoR: no, it's something the programmers have to do if you want them to launch say a new tab, not a whole new instance. Both galeon and gedit devs have _implemented_ that
[04:56] <cwillu> what's the command to boot a kernel using only x amount of memory?
[04:57] <cello_rasp> mugzie: go to System > Administartion > Synaptic Package Manage
[04:57] <r0xoR> engla, i meant that most apps you run cache their memory footprints somewhere so most apps will launch slow the first time and fastER the second time
[04:57] <Skeletonix> Hi
[04:57] <mugzie> cello ok then what now?
[04:57] <cello_rasp> mugzie: once there search for xubuntu and install xbubuntu-desktop :)
[04:57] <mugzie> ok
[04:57] <mugzie> thanks
[04:58] <engla> r0xoR: true. But even faster if there is already an instance running and the launcher is just a wrapper to open a new tab. And that's what I want to happen
[04:58] <r0xoR> engla, there's probably no way to get OO.org to launch under 1.0s unless you've got 4xSMP at many gigahertz
[04:58] <cello_rasp> mugzie: if that doesn't work out we are here to help
[04:58] <mugzie> i will ask thanks a lot
[04:58] <mugzie> i appreciate it
[04:58] <shutdown> Hello everybody!! I am Shutdown and I am 16. I come from Italy.
[04:59] <cello_rasp> hi shutdown
[04:59] <shutdown> Hello _jason
[04:59] <brettzilla> hey, could someone help me maybe?
[05:00] <r0xoR> engla, well, my guess is if you want that functionality you'll either have to modify the app itself or write an app yourself or modify some part of the gnu/linux subsystem
[05:00] <cello_rasp> just ask brettzilla :)
[05:00] <brettzilla> every time i do a dist-upgrade, it adds to my grub boot menu... is there a way to clean this up?
[05:00] <r0xoR> engla, i know that Netscape used to have a "keep loaded in memory" option... at least on windows
[05:00] <RandolphCarter> brettzilla: it's probably best to remove some of the old kernels after a while
[05:00] <brettzilla> how do i go about doing that?
[05:00] <slackern> brettzilla, maybe you have more than on kernel installed and it rebuilds the menu for you to have them old?
[05:00] <brettzilla> im still a newb
[05:00] <r0xoR> engla, but my guess is they implemented that on an application level... and my other guess is that you're not going to acheive quite what you want unless you dive into some code
[05:00] <RandolphCarter> brettzilla: just find them in aptitude and remove them (along with the restricted modules package)
[05:01] <r0xoR> engla, but then again they are just guesses
[05:01] <cwillu> engla, what's happening?
[05:01] <brettzilla> i've done it before though. i had to edit a specific file
[05:01] <brettzilla> i just dont remember which
[05:01] <cello_rasp> brettzilla: to edit grub menu menaually, see http://www.freeos.com/articles/3482/ and look for '1stboot'
[05:01] <engla> r0xoR: I found "galeon --server" in the gal man page, so I'm content with that. But I want some sort trick that works on other apps that don't provide it (gedit)
[05:01] <brettzilla> ok. thank you :)
[05:01] <r0xoR> cwillu, he wants his apps to have a "keep loaded in memory for faster launch in the future" option
[05:01] <slackern> brettzilla, try searching for 'linux-image' in synaptic
[05:01] <engla> cwillu: I want "fast-start" for general apps like gedit
[05:01] <mugzie> ok when i search for xubuntu in the pakage manager nothing shows up is there a pacific way to search or something?
[05:02] <paradizelost> howdy all
[05:02] <thoreauputic> !info xubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[05:02] <r0xoR> cwillu, i told him he probably was going to have to write some code to do that, if it's even do-able on a widescale basis
[05:02] <cello_rasp> mugzie: open up a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install xubutu-desktop'
[05:02] <engla> cwillu: for some reason gedit takes 10 secs to start when it's not running
[05:02] <salmiak_> hi paradizelost ;)
[05:02] <thoreauputic> mugzie: the package is xubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <slackern> mugzie, and make sure you have universe repositories enabled.
[05:02] <cello_rasp> close synaptic first tho :)
[05:02] <r0xoR> engla, vim loads for me in less than 1.0s :)
[05:02] <cwillu> ya, I'm not sure you can generalize it really, other than possible prefetching into the cache
[05:03] <cello_rasp> oh, man i am bad
[05:03] <RandolphCarter> engla: if you want that for all apps, add some more RAM to your comp and maybe get a faster processor
[05:03] <mugzie> brb ill try that
[05:03] <r0xoR> cwillu, win-netscape had that feature in 7.x and they removed it in 8.0
[05:03] <engla> RandolphCarter: ram should not be an issue. A warm start of gedit is still 4 secs, while if gedit is running, a new doc opens in <1s
[05:03] <amanda> gujhadgjiaYDSTGIAKWF
[05:03] <echobinary> :-D
[05:03] <mugzie> again im sorry if i sound stupid im new and im interested
[05:03] <eod_punk> anyone notice bad battery performance after these last set off updates?
[05:03] <r0xoR> cwillu, engla, it *was* a nice feature... but FF 1.5 launches in less than 1s on my box
[05:03] <echobinary> i am back!
[05:04] <amanda> ME  GUSTAS
[05:04] <RandolphCarter> engla: yes, of course, it just opens a new window, not a new process
[05:04] <gnomefreak> amanda: english
[05:04] <r0xoR> engla, i'll say again: use vim :)
[05:04] <gnomefreak> ompaul: i was getting there lol
[05:04] <cello_rasp> mugzie: sorry i forgot about universe repos:  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:04] <RandolphCarter> engla: time to load application < time to open new window
[05:04] <engla> RandolphCarter: right. And my discussion is all about that
[05:04] <echobinary> anyone in here have an nVidia GeForce 7300GS?
[05:04] <_tcc> Hey
[05:04] <engla> RandolphCarter: I want to force gedit (even if it does not provide that itself) to act like the oo2preloader or galeon --server etc, always keep a process open in the background
[05:05] <ompaul> !es
[05:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:05] <cwillu> r0xoR: let's pretend for a minute that ubuntu is a distro for normal people (it's a stretch, I know :p)
[05:05] <_tcc> What is the command to configure your Xserver?
[05:05] <paradizelost> sorry to mention politics, but anyone in USA should read the main story on CNN.com
[05:05] <r0xoR> cwillu, oohhh, right lol :P
[05:05] <ompaul> paradizelost, and there we leave politics
[05:05] <engla> r0xoR: I don't want vim.
[05:05] <r0xoR> awww, c'mon, sure ya do :)
[05:05] <_tcc> xconf?
[05:05] <r0xoR> engla, i hear scite and jedit are nice... have you tried nedit?
[05:05] <_tcc> or something like that.
[05:05] <cwillu> paradizelost: if that's about the nsa stuff, that's at least 4 months old
[05:06] <r0xoR> engla, there's gotta be something that launches faster than gEdit
[05:06] <r0xoR> oooh ooh!, i know!..... pico!
[05:06] <engla> I've seen nedit. gedit is great, it has _snippets_ :)
[05:06] <RandolphCarter> engla: I don't think they're going to add that to gedit because, well, it starts in under a second here
[05:06] <cwillu> although it's cute that they're finally stating it in the mainstream :p
[05:06] <r0xoR> engla, snippets?
[05:06] <cello_rasp> mugzie: i understand that because xubuntu isn't part of main ubuntu you need to enable extra repositories. once that's done you can use teminal and 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' to install it :) . and in fact you should be able to install anything else in the universe repository. you enable multiverse (even more stuff!) in the same wat
[05:06] <engla> RandolphCarter: right. But not on my system so I want some problem-solving on that
[05:06] <chri[s] > Can i upgrade from Breezy to Drapper ?
[05:06] <chri[s] > With out reinstalling
[05:06] <engla> I have prelink but that doesn't seem to do any difference
[05:06] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[05:06] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[05:06] <r0xoR> hehehe... drapper
[05:06] <cello_rasp> chri[s]  yep
[05:07] <eod_punk> chri[s]  yes there is a help page on ubuntu for it
[05:07] <haakonn_> isn't there some dpkg or apt magic that will display a package's changelog?
[05:07] <_jason> haakonn_: aptitude changelog packagename
[05:07] <haakonn_> _jason:  wow, nice, thanks
[05:08] <engla> r0xoR: snippets are tab triggers with placeholders, many editors surely have that. Open gedit and try it (activate the snippets plugin, only in dapper). for example, "main<tab>" could expand into "int main(int argc, char **argv) { .." etc
[05:08] <_tcc> What is the command to configure your Xserver?
[05:08] <NoUse> cello_rasp that would be a bad idea :-)
[05:08] <_jason> !xorg
[05:08] <ubotu> xorg is, like, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[05:08] <cello_rasp> as it is right now yes XD
[05:08] <r0xoR> engla, ohhh, completion/expansions... vim has that
[05:09] <r0xoR> i know how to type tho, so i don't really need that :P
[05:09] <mugzie> o man im still confused my head spiining i circles lol ok when i search in the synaptic it doesnt show any im sorry to ask but can someone please explain in baby step ...explain to me as if i was in the 3 rd grade ^_^
[05:09] <_tcc> Wasn't there a curses based interface?
[05:09] <_tcc> It was something like xconf or something.
[05:09] <_jason> mugzie: did you enable universe?
[05:09] <r0xoR> engla, what do you edit (mostly) ?
[05:09] <engla> r0xoR: it's useful for templates. And typing is boring.
[05:10] <_jason> _tcc: it's the command ubotu said
[05:10] <engla> r0xoR: right now, nothing :) Usually I program in python and C, write latex
[05:10] <mugzie> jason how do i do that ive been searching around for that like i said i only installed yeseterday
[05:10] <r0xoR> ah, k
[05:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell mugzie about universe
[05:10] <_jason> mugzie: ubotu sent you some information in a private message about enabling universe
[05:10] <RandolphCarter> engla: if you program in C, write a wrapper for gedit then :)
[05:10] <chri[s] > nice
[05:10] <jafonux_> I'm trying to update on my VGA drivers and in the read me file it states "The user can chech if the run-level is 3 (id:3:initdefault:) in the file /etc/inittab.
[05:10] <jafonux_>        If not, please modify it to 3 and restart the computer. " can any
[05:10] <r0xoR> engla, hmmm, and you've never given emacs or vim a try yet?
[05:10] <engla> r0xoR: yeah and then some random note-taking with markdown
[05:11] <chri[s] > Are all upgrades going to be like this ?
[05:11] <engla> r0xoR: I use emacs in the shell. Even emacs takes a while to start, I can't stand that (4secs)
[05:11] <r0xoR> heheh, engla there's a light version of emacs... launches *super* fast
[05:11] <_jason> engla: well you're supposed to start emacs once and use it as your OS, try vim
[05:11] <r0xoR> engla, i don't remember the history of it all, it's not lucid, but there's some other company that was working on emacs that came out with a super tiny lightning fast version
[05:12] <r0xoR> engla, yeh... vim > emacs IMO but if you used EITHER instead of something else you'd be making a step up :)
[05:12] <engla> _jason: right. Even emacs is *#@!. I just use it because it has pretty standard keybindings and input system (not like vi)
[05:13] <r0xoR> engla, if you like the emacs key bindings, then there's vimacs
[05:13] <engla> I'll definitely search for a ligher emacs. Right now I have emacs-snapshot from dapper reps
[05:13] <r0xoR> engla, oh and gvim > vim > emacs :)
[05:14] <paradizelost> !offtopic...
[05:14] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[05:14] <paradizelost> !offtopic ....
[05:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[05:14] <paradizelost> b ah
[05:14] <paradizelost> :(
[05:15] <engla> paradizelost: hehe :) it's !offtopic, I'd venture
[05:15] <paradizelost> i was hoping i could have a space and a few dots....
[05:15] <paradizelost> :D
[05:15] <paradizelost> but apparently i confusled the bot..
[05:15] <gs> how do i use the LAME encoder in Kaudiocreater
[05:16] <gs> ?
[05:16] <paradizelost> !mp3
[05:16] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:16] <Skeletonix> When I want print from WinXp to my Ubuntu printer I find in log cups access_log this:
[05:16] <Skeletonix> 192.168.0.2 - - [11/May/2006:16:48:58 +0200]  "POST /printers/Stylus-C64 HTTP/1.1" 200 694267 Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported
[05:16] <Skeletonix> What coul be it?...
[05:16] <Skeletonix> *could
[05:16] <paradizelost> Skeletonix: are you printing in A4 or a document size that's not supported by the printer?
[05:16] <Skeletonix> The same log I find if I print word doc ... jpeg...
[05:16] <Skeletonix> yes..A4
[05:17] <paradizelost> Skeletonix: is it a printer that supports A4?
[05:17] <paradizelost> i would expect they do
[05:17] <paradizelost> do you have the server set up that way for the printer? or does the system think it's printing in letter?
[05:17] <Skeletonix> yes!!
[05:17] <Skeletonix> paradizelost: Epson Stylus C64
[05:17] <paradizelost> i hate epson so i'm not familiar w/ the specs on the C64
[05:18] <Skeletonix> yeh..I bought it when I had Win..and now I don wont bay another
[05:19] <Skeletonix> "do you have the server set up that way for the printer? or does the system think it's printing in letter?" .... diferent?
[05:19] <paradizelost> Skeletonix: if you go system -> administration->printing
[05:19] <paradizelost> is the printer configured for letter or A4 on the server?
[05:19] <Skeletonix> yes
[05:20] <paradizelost> Skeletonix: yes... to what???
[05:21] <Skeletonix> paradizelost: wait..
[05:21] <Skeletonix> paradizelost: I have very slow computer
[05:22] <paradizelost> k
[05:22] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[05:22] <ubotu> I heard upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[05:22] <Skeletonix> paradizelost: A4 Plain Paper
[05:22] <paradizelost> hmm
[05:22] <Skeletonix> hmm :)
[05:22] <grachar> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:23] <mugzie> ok i found i click it then it said mark or cancel i press marked now i clicked apply and it says 103mb will be installed is this right?
[05:23] <Skeletonix> here is the cupsd.conf http://forum.ubuntu.cz/viewtopic.php?id=1406
[05:24] <b08y> hello, why does "Play stop" hotkey configuration in "Keyboard hotkeys" doesnt work with Rythmbox?
[05:24] <bc_> help me? i cannot restart samba on console
[05:24] <frfx> i want to copy a file from a windows computer to an ubuntu computer.i use WinSCP.but i can't copy files to certain directories because i can't log in as root.is there a solution?
[05:25] <mugzie> anyone know if im on the right track to installing xubuntu?
[05:25] <krazykit> well that's strange.  mplayer -vo xv shows some messed up colors, but -vo x11 and gl both work ok...
[05:25] <gfxstyler> hi again
[05:25] <bc_> what command should i type to restart samba on console
[05:25] <mugzie> did everyone leave?
[05:25] <bc_> hikss
[05:25] <bc_> help me
[05:26] <Skeletonix> bc_: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:26] <zm0> bc_: sudo /etc/init.d/smb restart, i think
[05:26] <gfxstyler> bc_: i dunno, but maybe /etc/init.d/samba restart ? or doesnt ubuntu have that
[05:26] <gfxstyler> lol
[05:26] <gfxstyler> concience :D
[05:26] <masadu> hola wapo estas ahy
[05:26] <chri[s] > how do you open the ports for the application "talk"
[05:26] <ferronica> any one tell me how to refresh screen/??
[05:26] <gfxstyler> masadu: most people will understand you if you speak english
[05:26] <chri[s] > somewhere in the init.d
[05:26] <gfxstyler> ferronica: refresh the screen? what screen?
[05:26] <bc_> there is no samba on my /etc/init.d/
[05:27] <b08y> bc_: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:27] <Hoobly> anyone have suggestions for slightly jittery dvd playback?
[05:27] <_jason> Hoobly: have you enabled DMA?
[05:27] <ferronica> gfxstyler: as we do in windows F5
[05:27] <ferronica> gfxstyler: hit F5
[05:27] <gfxstyler> Hoobly: dma & have you installed your video drivers?
[05:27] <mzuverink> I am setting up a dual boot(winxp/ubuntu)box.  I have 2 - 40 gig drives to do it on.  I plan on giving xp 15 gigs, and using the rest for a fat32 sharing partition.  Can I mount /on the second drive and make a /swap on part of the first dive without any problems?
[05:27] <Skeletonix> When I want print from WinXp to my Ubuntu printer I find in log cups access_log this:
[05:27] <Skeletonix> 192.168.0.2 - - [11/May/2006:16:48:58 +0200]  "POST /printers/Stylus-C64 HTTP/1.1" 200 694267 Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported
[05:27] <Skeletonix>  What could be it?.
[05:27] <ferronica> gfxstyler:
[05:27] <bc_> bash: samba: command not found
[05:27] <gfxstyler> ferronica: i know how to do that :) i thought u wanted to know
[05:27] <Hoobly> if you mean in the /etc/hdparm.conf file, I think so
[05:27] <bc_> what should i do
[05:27] <ferronica> gfxstyler: YES LOL
[05:28] <Skeletonix> bc_: cd /etc/init.d/
[05:28] <bc_> i all ready install samba
[05:28] <Skeletonix> bc_: samba restart
[05:28] <gfxstyler> mzuverink: why do you want to give winxp 15 gb ?
[05:28] <b08y> bc_ that do "sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop"
[05:28] <bc_> Skeletonix: yeah, i allready try that
[05:28] <ferronica> ubotu: refresh screen
[05:28] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica
[05:28] <gfxstyler> Hoobly: when you watch fullscreen your cpu most handle it if you dont have your gfx card drivers installed and use a video/opengl overlay
[05:29] <mzuverink> gfxstyler: what would you give it?  I want firefox and all plugins and open office and itunes in windows, thats all.
[05:29] <bc_> b08y: i allready in root mode
[05:29] <frfx>  i want to copy a file from a windows computer to an ubuntu computer.i use WinSCP.but i can't copy files to certain directories because i can't log in as root.???
[05:29] <b08y> bc_: did u the cmd?
[05:29] <gfxstyler> mzuverink: thats not that much, winxp takes around 2,5gb with all updates and such, + your pagefile, + the apps ... so approx 8 gigs (to have some free space)
[05:30] <bc_> b08y: sorry, i don't understad
[05:30] <Hoobly> gfxstyler: my vid card is onboard.  this is an old Dell PIII
[05:30] <jafonux_> The user can chech if the run-level is 3 (id:3:initdefault:) in the file /etc/inittab.
[05:30] <jafonux_>        If not, please modify it to 3 and restart the computer.
[05:30] <mugzie> ok guys im trying to install xubuntu for a more lighter experience since im on a not so good laptop and i did all the steps now it says its about to install103mb on my computer is that good??
[05:30] <gfxstyler> Hoobly: i dont know about that cards sorry :/
[05:30] <ferronica> gfxstyler: will u tell me how to refresh screen
[05:30] <b08y> type "sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop"
[05:30] <mzuverink> gfxstyler: will linux complain if /swap is on the same drive as windows, while / is on the second drive?
[05:30] <gfxstyler> ferronica: press f5 ? or do you mean set the refresh rate?
[05:30] <krazykit> mzuverink: nope
[05:31] <gfxstyler> mzuverink: the swap cant be on the same partition as windows
[05:31] <ferronica> gfxstyler: NO NO
[05:31] <discboy> salut!
[05:31] <gfxstyler> or at least i think so
[05:31] <mugzie> anyone know if im on the right path?
[05:31] <discboy> do you speck french?
[05:31] <bc_> b08y: thx, it works with "sudo" command
[05:31] <gfxstyler> since you need to format the swap partition as swap space
[05:31] <bc_> b08y: thx
[05:31] <krazykit> mzuverink: it can be on the same drive, but just not the same partition.
[05:31] <ferronica> gfxstyler: As we do in windows. right click on screen and hit refresh option...
[05:31] <b08y> than "sudo /etc/init.d/samba start"
[05:32] <ferronica> gfxstyler: that one
[05:32] <gfxstyler> ferronica: yes, press F5
[05:32] <bc_> b08y: yeah, it works thank u
[05:32] <ferronica> gfxstyler: Okay
[05:32] <b08y> why does "Play stop" hotkey configuration in "Keyboard hotkeys" doesnt work with Rythmbox?
[05:33] <bc_> b08y: i've another trouble,
[05:33] <b08y> bc_: ?
[05:33] <gfxstyler> b08y: the play/stop stuff doesnt work for me at all :)
[05:33] <b08y> dont ask to ask
[05:34] <bc_> b08y: i share my "vfat partition", when i click it, it must use username and password
[05:34] <b08y> gfxstyler: that's bad :(
[05:34] <b08y> and?
[05:34] <b08y> bc_: ^^
[05:34] <jafonux_> install cannot create regular file `/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/xgiv_drv.o' : permission denied
[05:35] <jafonux_> any1 know how i get permission?
[05:35] <paradizelost> jafonux_: are you using sudo?
[05:35] <bc_> b08y: do u know, how to share it without password
[05:35] <EvanCarroll> Anyone know why vim7 isn't in dapper repos?
[05:35] <jafonux_> I logged ion under root su -
[05:35] <apokryphos> EvanCarroll: #ubuntu+1
[05:35] <gfxstyler> EvanCarroll: because ... they didnt want it to be included :) ? no, sorry i dont know
[05:36] <EvanCarroll> apokryphos: thnkx.
[05:36] <jafonux_> paradizelost I logged ion under root su -
[05:36] <punkcut> hey whats the "ubuntu way" of adding services to the runlevels?
[05:36] <jafonux_> paradizelost trying to install the driver for my VGA
[05:36] <paradizelost> jafonux_: well, your not root if your getting permission denied...
[05:37] <b08y> bc_: u read that? http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Samba_Freigaben?highlight=%28samba%29
[05:37] <Whoopie> Hi, I'm searching for an example script to listen to HAL button events. Where could I find these? Thanks for helping.
[05:37] <paradizelost> that or the module is trying to get to area's already in use
[05:37] <gfxstyler> punkcut: install sysv-rc-conf and place your init script in /etc/init.d with the appropiate rights (+rwx), then use sysv-rc-conf to install it in the appropiate runlevels
[05:37] <b08y> bc_: omg, sry thats my language :D
[05:37] <punkcut> thanks gfxstyler
[05:37] <g0dchild> Hi, is there anywhere i can log my adsl connection?
[05:37] <g0dchild> is it the same thing as plog?
[05:37] <gfxstyler> jafonux_: what gfx card do you have?
[05:37] <bc_> b08y: thats ok
[05:37] <paradizelost> g0dchild: you mean log all connections?
[05:38] <b08y> bc_: plz, explain more, what u are doing?
[05:38] <paradizelost> g0dchild: if you use firestarter it logs to syslog..  so everything would be in /var/log/messages
[05:38] <g0dchild> yeah....i want to keep track of bandwidth and more importantly the modem uptime
[05:38] <paradizelost> oh, that
[05:38] <paradizelost> that's not logging all connections...
[05:38] <paradizelost> g0dchild: sounds like you'd want something like ntop
[05:38] <paradizelost> but modem uptime, good luck
[05:38] <bc_> b08y: wow..... can u give me on english lang.
[05:39] <g0dchild> paradizelost, even uptime for the adsl line's ok- but i suppose thats the same thing isnt it?
[05:39] <jafonux_> paradizelost ah hang on my bad i'm following the instruction from the the Read Me and it 1st said to change the The user must login as root.
[05:39] <jafonux_>     b. Please make sure to switch in console mode.
[05:39] <jafonux_>        The user can check if the run-level is 3 (id:3:initdefault:) in the file /etc/inittab.
[05:39] <gfxstyler> jafonux_: what gfx card do you have?
[05:39] <jafonux_> Volari by XGI
[05:40] <frfx>  i want to copy a file from a windows computer to an ubuntu computer.i use WinSCP.but i can't copy files to certain directories because i can't log in as root.is there a solution?
[05:40] <gfxstyler> okay, so no easy xorg-drivers-bla package
[05:40] <jafonux_> i grabbed the drivers from their web site
[05:40] <gfxstyler> frfx: over network?
[05:41] <jafonux_> gfxstyler it does mention something and to use Xorg
[05:41] <gfxstyler> jafonux_: yes ubuntu uses xorg :P
[05:42] <skipjack> Hi, can sombody explain me who I must copy my document for apache2 ? /var/wwseems to be incorrect ???
[05:42] <bc_> b08y: i want to share my folder, but when i open the folder, i must give username and password
[05:42] <jafonux_> why is it that that when I exceute $ sh install scrit
[05:42] <mustardongaim> !easysource
[05:42] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:42] <b08y> bc_: share from where?
[05:42] <jafonux_> script that that the one file fails to install because of permission issues
[05:42] <gfxstyler> skipjack: apachedir/http ? but thats on windows, i dont know for linux
[05:43] <bc_> b08y: from my linux
[05:43] <gfxstyler> jafonux_: do : sudo sh yourscript.sh
[05:43] <NoUse> skipjack what are you trying to do?
[05:43] <b08y> bc_: with samba right?
[05:43] <jortiz> HOLA
[05:43] <bc_> b08y: yeah
[05:47] <jafonux_> gfxstyler i'm completely new to this and well have no idea.....so 1st I would open a terminal window log in as root  and then??
[05:48] <b08y> bc_: well, i cant finf good samba share tutorials in english :)
[05:48] <gfxstyler> jafonux_: dont, just use "sudo" when you need superuser rights
[05:48] <jafonux_> ok
[05:48] <gfxstyler> is there a way to disable the joined/quit messages in xchat?
[05:48] <gfxstyler> its really annoying to see that stupid messages all the time
[05:48] <bc_> b08y: thanks anyway for your help
[05:48] <b08y> bc_: search after something like "ubuntu wiki" and there after "samba share"
[05:49] <jbroome> gfxstyler: right click on the chan name and it's in one of those menus that pop up
[05:49] <bc_> b08y: ok, i'll try
[05:49] <_tcc> That command didn't work before...what is the command to configure your xserver?
[05:49] <skipjack> NoUse:  I want to install typo3 on my webserver, I have install the apache2 ,mysql .. (LAMP) and now I can'T find the right DocRoot, I have create a directory in /var/www with the name typo3 .. when I surf to 127.0.0.1 I see only apache2-default/  as dir .. and no typo3 ..
[05:49] <lpgl> hi! how do i enable root user in ubuntu?
[05:49] <_tcc> I know it is something like xconf
[05:49] <gfxstyler> jbroome: can that be enabled as default? thanks btw :)
[05:49] <_tcc> or something like that.
[05:50] <det-> The installer in the live CD doesnt support installing on raid?
[05:50] <b08y> btw, if u like wikis in your own language have a look there http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[05:50] <NoUse> skipjack make sure you have set the typo3 set to be world readable, chmod -R o+rx typo3/
[05:51] <skipjack> drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2006-05-11 17:31 typo3 @ NoUse
[05:52] <NoUse> skipjack and typo3 is in /var/www ?
[05:52] <skipjack> ls
[05:52] <skipjack> yes NoUse
[05:52] <valehru> How can I assign emblems to desktop items, such as CD ROM drives or My Computer?
[05:53] <skipjack> root@Tobias-wrk:/var/www# ls -l
[05:53] <skipjack> insgesamt 12
[05:53] <skipjack> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-05-11 17:08 apache2-default
[05:53] <skipjack> drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2006-05-11 17:31
[05:53] <skipjack> typo3
[05:53] <lpgl> how do i enable root user in ubuntu?
[05:53] <g0dchild> where can i find the log file for plog?
[05:53] <jbroome> !root
[05:53] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:53] <gfxstyler> valehru: drag them out of the menu to the desktop
[05:53] <valehru> but  even in the menu the icon is crap
[05:54] <gfxstyler> then change it afterwards
[05:54] <MagicFab> how can I remove a package that has ubuntu-desktop as dependency ?
[05:54] <valehru> for this theme, which I like, the icons are screwed up though for about 10% of them
[05:54] <valehru> is there not an icon config in gnome?
[05:54] <mugzie> um i just installed xubuntu from synnaptic and it says changes applied do i just restart or how do i do it
[05:54] <gfxstyler> valehru: you can install icons in the theme manager
[05:54] <phreak97_> how do i change my default manager to gdm?
[05:54] <NoUse> !tell skipjack about paste
[05:54] <phreak97_> it's currently kdm
[05:55] <topyli> valehru: you don't like your icon theme, or is it just some individual icons?
[05:55] <mustardongaim> mugzie: logout and then change the 'sessions' option
[05:55] <salmiak_> MagicFab, it's perfectly safe to remove packages that has ubuntu-desktop as dependency.
[05:55] <valehru> individual icons
[05:55] <mugzie> ok thanks
[05:55] <phreak97_> valehru, i had the same problem
[05:55] <phreak97_> never fixed it
[05:55] <NoUse> skipjack have you tried refreshing you browser, sometimes it caches and you won't see the changes
[05:55] <MagicFab> salmiak_: won't ubuntu-desktop be removed completely, including other packages ?
[05:55] <mugzie> is there a exact way to change them?
[05:56] <phreak97_> also, what the hell is xubuntu?
[05:56] <gfxstyler> MagicFab: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[05:56] <salmiak_> MagicFab, it's some sort of dependency that shows that it's included in the standard ubuntu desktop...nothing will be removed
[05:56] <gfxstyler> phreak97: xfce ubuntu
[05:56] <MagicFab> mugzie: you can logout and login again, choosing XFCE as your session
[05:56] <phreak97_> and why do i have a xubuntu splash screen all of a sudden?
[05:56] <phreak97_> oh.. ok
[05:56] <mugzie> ok thanks brb
[05:56] <phreak97_> that's great
[05:56] <mustardongaim> mugzie: you can either choose to run xubuntu as a default session or just one time
[05:56] <waylandbill> Hello. I'm looking for the package that contains 'tunctl' ... can't seem to locate it.
[05:56] <gfxstyler> phreak97: because you installed xubuntu ?
[05:56] <krazykit> phreak97_: did you install xubuntu-artwork?
[05:56] <mugzie> o ok on the login screen it shows what to use right?
[05:56] <MagicFab> mugzie: also check #xubuntu, for, well, xubuntu users:)
[05:57] <phreak97_> phreak97, i installed ubuntu, then added kde and xfce
[05:57] <mugzie> ok thanks
[05:57] <gfxstyler> mugzie: on loginscreen -> session
[05:57] <phreak97_> krazykit, nope
[05:57] <mugzie> thanks
[05:57] <mustardongaim> mugzie: there is a button called 'session'
[05:57] <mugzie> ok got it
[05:57] <mugzie> thanks a lot
[05:57] <MagicFab> mugzie: you have to choose the session, it's not shown if you don't click on the sessions button/menu (depending on your config)
[05:57] <gfxstyler> phreak97: xfce4 is just a metapackage, maybe it includes xfce-artwork
[05:57] <skipjack> NoUse: yes I have refreshed .. but nothing changed .. who is the misstake ?
[05:57] <salmiak_> MagicFab, "for your information, you are now removing something that is included in the standard ubuntu desktop". ;D The dependency ubuntu-desktop does nothing ;)
[05:57] <vicky__> hii !
[05:57] <vicky__> alguien habla espaol??
[05:58] <phreak97_> i dont care about that anyway, all i want right now, is to change it from kdm to gdm
[05:58] <MagicFab> I just want to make sure... if I remove gnome-games-data, the rest of ubuntu-desktop+deps won't be removed.. ?
[05:58] <vicky__> holqa
[05:58] <gfxstyler> vicky__: please, english only :)
[05:58] <NoUse> skipjack I don't know, check your server logs perhaps
[05:58] <ompaul> !es
[05:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:58] <MagicFab> vicky__: puedes iur a #ubuntu-es
[05:58] <salmiak_> magical_trevsky, i've removed gnome-games-data without having the rest of my system removed ;)
[05:58] <salmiak_> sry, MagicFab
[05:58] <vicky__> what's up? xD
[05:58] <phreak97_> krazykit, know how to change the default manager from kdm to gdm?
[05:58] <brandobas> quit
[05:58] <gfxstyler> damn autocompletion, eh? :D
[05:58] <brandobas> exit
[05:58] <brandobas> /quit
[05:58] <vicky__> But I know english too
[05:59] <salmiak_> autocompletion is a two-edged sword ;)
[05:59] <gfxstyler> lol
[05:59] <vicky__> and its funny talk here
[05:59] <vicky__> =)
[06:00] <krazykit> phreak97_: uh, nope.
[06:00] <phreak97_> damnit
[06:00] <phreak97_> anyone?
[06:01] <phreak97_> basically all i want is to be able to shutdown or restart without having to log out first. in gdm i can, in kdm i cant, even though i run gnome no matter which manager im using
[06:01] <phreak97_> cos i get the k login
[06:01] <phreak97_> not the gnome login
[06:02] <topyli> phreak97_: uninstall kdm :)
[06:02] <_jason> phreak97_: dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[06:03] <phreak97_> _jason, THANKS!
[06:03] <phreak97_> brb, see if it worked
[06:04] <ssanchez> hola
[06:04] <b08y> bc_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[06:05] <ssanchez> hola cnt
[06:05] <bc_> b08y: thanks
[06:05] <valehru> so I installed the 32 bit firefox on breezy x86
[06:06] <valehru> _64
[06:06] <b08y> bc_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucasArruda/ConfiguringEasyUnauthenticatedSambaWindowsLinuxShare?highlight=%28samba%29
[06:06] <topyli> hellsoul: stop it
[06:06] <hellsoul> bug do script
[06:06] <b08y> bc_: if u want more :D
[06:06] <topyli> hellsoul: get rid of those away messages anyway
[06:06] <g0dchild> yeah, i know about the art.gnome.org- but is there a gtk app, which i can use to download themes directly from the website?
[06:06] <bc_> b08y: well i read first
[06:07] <valehru> however I want to be able to change the icon of the 32 bit firefox in the task bar...currently there is no icon in the 32 bit firefox window on the taskbar
[06:07] <valehru> any suggestions?
[06:07] <g0dchild> lets say i want to do this on account of being a bit short on bandwidth
[06:07] <b08y> bc_: yeah, do that :D
[06:08] <rezzen> hi.  can i resize ext3 partion w/out a live CD or ubuntu rescue CD?  (how do safely umount swap and /dev/hda1, or boot w/out those mounted?)
[06:08] <phreak97> valehru, did you find out how to change individual icons?
[06:09] <mugzie101> ok i got it to work thanks who ever helped me
[06:09] <phreak97> gdm is default now btw
[06:09] <mutante> rezzen: by booting into "single user mode"?  boot=linux 1  or "init 1" in a system that is already up
[06:09] <mugzie101> on ubuntu or xubuntu can u put windows media player?
[06:09] <skwid_> i cant access the mysql installed by synaptic on dapper
[06:09] <skwid_> i keep getting the 'Access denied' message
[06:09] <valehru> phreak97, I just went to the theme manager and installed a new icon theme
[06:10] <rezzen> mutante, i have booted in to single user mode... but i didn't try from a machine already up... will try that.
[06:10] <valehru> currently using gartoon with a MacOS window them
[06:10] <valehru> tis nice
[06:10] <phreak97> valehru, i find most of the icon themes are incomplete
[06:11] <phreak97> they miss obvious things like .txt or torrent files
[06:11] <topyli> not the gnome default! =)
[06:11] <valehru> well this is doing fine for me
[06:11] <valehru> :)
[06:11] <valehru> so far so good
[06:11] <fouad> hi
[06:12] <fouad> can someone help me installing wine
[06:12] <fouad> ???
[06:12] <mugzie101> um im having trouble installing flash on here can someone help me
[06:12] <skwid_> can anyone help me with mysql ?
[06:12] <det-> Using the live cd to install a system, when It comes time to use gparted, I cant find any option to create a Raid array. is this only available using the text install?
[06:12] <NoUse> fouad sudo apt-get install wine
[06:12] <mutante> asking this way will usually not get you a bunch of "Yes"
[06:13] <mutante> people cant tell what exactly you need help with
[06:13] <mugzie101> is there anyway to install flash on this?
[06:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell mugzie101 about flash
[06:13] <skwid_> mutante: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[06:13] <skwid_> i tried thousands of commands from forums etc
[06:13] <skwid_> :S
[06:13] <phreak97> ti want to be able to stream videos from a site which is made for windows media player
[06:13] <phreak97> am i screwed?
[06:14] <phreak97> i*
[06:14] <mutante> skwid_: you dont know the mysql root pass?
[06:14] <mugzie101> jason i didnt get a pm let me jumpon ly laptop brb
[06:14] <skwid_> mutante: there shouldnt be any
[06:14] <mutante> skwid_: its set to some default and you dont know which?
[06:14] <_jason> phreak97: mplayer with w32codecs can handle most unless the page uses some weird scripting...
[06:14] <skwid_> mutante: i just installed mysql
[06:14] <mutante> skwid_: what did you type to connect?
[06:14] <phreak97> it's just gamespot
[06:14] <fouad> im trying to install wine and after i type make install i get a bunch of codes and lines and stuff and in the ned i get make[2] : *** [lex.yy.o]  Error 1
[06:14] <fouad> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/fouad/wine-0.9.12/libs/wpp'
[06:14] <fouad> make[1] : *** [wpp]  Error 2
[06:14] <fouad> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/fouad/wine-0.9.12/libs'
[06:14] <fouad> make: *** [libs]  Error 2
[06:14] <_jason> phreak97: send me a link to a sample and I'll tell you if it plays here
[06:14] <skwid_> skwid@LostOcean:/etc/mysql$ mysql -u root
[06:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell fouad about paste
[06:14] <mutante> skwid_: try : mysql -u root -p
[06:15] <mugzie> ph what about gamespot?
[06:15] <phreak97> _jason, it doesnt give a link or file, it's meant to be an applet type thing in the page
[06:15] <NoUse> fouad why are you compiling from source?
[06:15] <mutante> skwid: then hit enter when it asks for pass
[06:15] <_jason> phreak97: I mean a link to the page
[06:15] <phreak97> ok
[06:15] <valehru> whats the best panel that works out of gnome that displays CPU, memory, network usage etc...?
[06:15] <mutante> skwid_: there may be a difference between "no" pass and a "blank" pass
[06:15] <fouad> well the ubuntu link is broken
[06:15] <skwid_> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[06:15] <NoUse> fouad its in synaptic
[06:15] <dushy> hello all..
[06:15] <NoUse> fouad what do you mean the ubuntu link?
[06:15] <fouad> yeah but its old
[06:15] <mutante> skwid_: but if you use -p it should say using password: YES
[06:15] <dushy> any one knows how to install mplayer?
[06:15] <mugzie> jason send me the info on flash again
[06:16] <phreak97> http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3live.html\
[06:16] <NoUse> fouad winehq.com has a ubuntu apt-get repo
[06:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell mugzie101 about flash
[06:16] <phreak97> take the \ off the end
[06:16] <mikearthur> has anyone got a widescreen display rotating in Xorg?
[06:16] <phreak97> it's a typo
[06:16] <phreak97> any video from there
[06:16] <skwid_> mutante: it doesn't :S
[06:16] <mugzie> no im under just mugzie now
[06:16] <mutante> skwid_: anyways, if all fails, lets try to reset the root pass
[06:16] <mugzie> and ph are u a gamespot plus member
[06:16] <NoUse> fouad http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[06:16] <mugzie> i am
[06:16] <mutante> skwid_: http://s23.org/wiki/MySQL#Reset_forgotten_root_password
[06:16] <phreak97> im not, but you can still stream the low quality
[06:16] <skwid_> mutante: thanks, going there
[06:16] <dushy> can any one tell me how to install mplayer??"
[06:16] <phreak97> i restarted into windows and it worked
[06:16] <mugzie> yea but u dont get it live
[06:17] <_tcc> Anyone on a thinkpad by any chance?
[06:17] <phreak97> it doesnt need to be live to be a stream
[06:17] <mugzie101> ubotu: tell mugzie about flash
[06:17] <mugzie101> ok it worked
[06:18] <mugzie101> ph dont u need windows tho to see them?
[06:18] <phreak97> mugzie, this is what i was asking
[06:18] <mugzie101> o ok
[06:18] <valehru> what is the name of the application that docks in the desktop that shows the system statistics?
[06:18] <mugzie101> so is there a way to get media player on this?
[06:18] <phreak97> not windows media player
[06:18] <phreak97> i was wondering about an alternative
[06:19] <mutante> mplayer, vlc
[06:19] <phreak97> something which works with firefox to run video streams
[06:19] <phreak97> those dont
[06:19] <mutante> "firefox mplayer plugin"
[06:19] <NoUse> phreak97 yeah they do :-)
[06:19] <mutante> "The mplayer and xine plugins may require you to install Win32 codecs"
[06:19] <_jason> phreak97: the ones taht have ads seem to loop on the ads, the others work fine...
[06:19] <NoUse> !info mozilla-mplayer
[06:19] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 3.05-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 366 kB, Installed size: 1340 kB
[06:19] <mugzie101> um ok im still confused aout flash do i just download it from the site or how do i do it?
[06:20] <sanhauru> hi :)
[06:20] <phreak97> i get the white box with a green puzzle piece "click here to download plugin"
[06:20] <NoUse> mugzie101 have you read the wiki page?
[06:20] <mutante> mugzie101: the easiest is to go to any Flash site, and be offered by Firefox to download it
[06:20] <phreak97> and there is none
[06:20] <mugzie101> yes i have
[06:20] <phreak97> it doesnt find one
[06:20] <mugzie101> o ok
[06:20] <phreak97> and links to the microsoft site to get media player 10
[06:20] <NoUse> phrea97 install the mozilla-mplayer package
[06:20] <phreak97> _jason, what do i do then?
[06:20] <phreak97> ok
[06:21] <_jason> phreak97: mplayer-plugin is probably your best bet, you may have to view the source to get it to play some of them... or write some kind of greasemonkey script (at least that seems to be necessary here)
[06:22] <phreak97> ok, ill let you know right now, i dont even know where to start to write a script
[06:22] <bc_> b08y: i stiil have same problem
[06:23] <mugzie101> im sure there has to be a windows media player for linux
[06:23] <phreak97> mugzie, when was the last time you saw microsoft make anything for linux?
[06:23] <b08y> bc_: read the part with "smbpassd"?
[06:23] <_jason> mugzie101: not one made by MS...
[06:23] <NoUse> mugzie101 no there isn't
[06:23] <mugzie101> damn that stinks
[06:23] <bc_> b08y: everytime i open my share folder, the authentication windows comes up so i must enter username and password
[06:24] <fouad_> nouse are u still there ???
[06:24] <g0dchild> _jason, where can i find the log file for plog?
[06:24] <g0dchild> !plog
[06:24] <jbroome> phreak97: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/interopmigration/unix/sfu/default.mspx
[06:24] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, g0dchild
[06:24] <bc_> b08y: can u help me more
[06:24] <NoUse> fouad_ yes I sent you a link to install wine with
[06:24] <b08y> bc_: and where is the problem?
[06:24] <_jason> g0dchild: I don't know, sorry
[06:24] <fouad_> i didnt get iyt
[06:24] <skwid_> mutante: You cannot use 'password' command as mysqld runs
[06:24] <skwid_>  with grant tables disabled (was started with --skip-grant-tables).
[06:24] <NoUse> fouad_ http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[06:24] <_tcc> How do I configure my x server?
[06:24] <mugzie101> hey um everytime i install flash i extract it and now it wont install im confused
[06:24] <_tcc> This is not working at all.
[06:24] <b08y> bc_: quit normal, that he want a username and password
[06:25] <NoUse> mugzie101 read the wiki, those instructions work
[06:25] <NoUse> !tell mugzie101 about flash
[06:25] <mugzie101> otay
[06:25] <b08y> bc_: or what do u mean, u have to explain, what u need , what u expect
[06:25] <mutante> skwid_: thats why it first says to "Take down the mysqld server by sending a kill (not kill -9) to the mysqld server."
[06:25] <b08y> bc_: and what u have done
[06:25] <skwid_> i did
[06:25] <skwid_> but then it says to launch it with the skip grant permissions
[06:25] <bc_> b08y: the problems is, i dont want to share with authentification
[06:26] <b08y> bc_: lets tell me how u shared?
[06:26] <fouad_> nouse, have u used wine before /??
[06:26] <b08y> bc_: which tool, with smbconf or what
[06:26] <phreak97> _jason, the mplayer package didnt really help
[06:26] <_tcc> Xorg -configure says that I am missing output drivers.
[06:26] <_tcc> Where can I get some working ones?
[06:26] <NoUse> fouad_ yes
[06:26] <b08y> bc_: tell me MORE
[06:26] <skwid_> mutante: any ideas ?
[06:26] <bc_> b08y: first, i've mount my vfat partition in /mnt/windows/
[06:27] <b08y> bc_: well, oki
[06:27] <b08y> bc_: than ..
[06:27] <_tcc> Actually, how do I set my Xorg drivers as i810?
[06:27] <_jason> phreak97: it's the scripting they use for the ads
[06:27] <_tcc> Anyone know?
[06:27] <fouad_> im a newbie
[06:27] <bc_> b08y: then, i share using samba
[06:27] <mutante> skwid_: hmm,not really, if those instructions fail, i would switch to #mysql myself :p
[06:28] <NoUse> fouad_ have you read the link I sent you?
[06:28] <mugzie101> this wiki is for ubuntu im using xubuntu the only reason im in this room because the others dead so is it the same?
[06:28] <fouad_> yeah
[06:28] <_jason> phreak97: can't you download it with the download button?
[06:28] <skwid_> mutante: ok, thanks
[06:28] <b08y> bc_: well there are about 10 possibiliets how to share with samba
[06:28] <fouad_> i just added the address to the repository
[06:28] <NoUse> fouad_ what is confusing you?
[06:28] <b08y> bc_: tell me what u have realy done
[06:28] <mugzie101> jason u know if its the same?
[06:28] <_jason> mugzie101: it is the same for flash
[06:29] <fouad_> nothing
[06:29] <mugzie101> yea even if i download it to xubuntu is it the same steps
[06:29] <bc_> b08y: [Documents] 
[06:29] <bc_>    comment = My Documents
[06:29] <bc_>    path = /mnt/windows
[06:29] <bc_>    browseable = yes
[06:29] <bc_>    writable = yes
[06:29] <bc_>    share mode = yes
[06:29] <bc_>    public = yes
[06:29] <bc_>    guest ok = yes
[06:29] <mugzie101> cause i think its a code
[06:29] <fouad_> i mean after  getting it from synaptic
[06:29] <bc_>    security = share
[06:29] <bc_>    create mask = 0777
[06:29] <bc_>    browse list = Yes
[06:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell bc_ about paste
[06:29] <fouad_> how to try to install a game for example
[06:29] <fouad_> ???
[06:29] <jarle> Any body know the name of the application running on the GNOME panel informing users about updates?
[06:29] <NoUse> fouad_ wine install.exe
[06:29] <bc_> SOrry, if i do wrong guys
[06:29] <ferronica> how to print a document?? i hav HP 1410 inkjet printer
[06:29] <NoUse> fouad_ install.exe being the games installer, but wine is stil Alpha, it doesn't work for all software
[06:30] <fouad_> i know that
[06:30] <mugzie101> anyone know if im using xubuntu and i wanna set up fash if its the same steps a ubuntu?
[06:30] <fouad_> dont i have to specify the cdrom location of setup
[06:30] <_jason> mugzie101: I just told you it was the same
[06:30] <fouad_> coz setup being in a cdrom
[06:30] <fouad_> ???
[06:30] <ferronica> via openofficeorg2.writer
[06:30] <phreak97> _jason, lol.. there is none, i saw the button in windows, but it's not here
[06:30] <mugzie101> o sorry im guessing it didnt show on my chat im using a broke down mirc
[06:31] <NoUse> fouad_ yes, if you open the cd in gnome and click on teh exe it should use wine to open it
[06:31] <_jason> phreak97: really? I just saw it on one of the videos from the main apge
[06:31] <ferronica> how to print via openofficeorg2.writer
[06:31] <fouad_> ok thats good
[06:31] <ferronica> jason: my friend help!
[06:31] <_tcc> how do I set my Xorg drivers as i810?
[06:31] <valehru> any reason why gkrellm is unable to move around my desktop
[06:31] <valehru> ?"
[06:31] <_jason> ferronica: file > print
[06:31] <b08y> bc_: tried  that "gksu shares-admin"
[06:32] <_jason> phreak97: yeah I don't see it on that e3 page either though
[06:32] <phreak97> it was there in windows:/
[06:32] <fouad_> and let suppose after opening the setup file, the game will ask for a location to save in, in default its c:\program files\.... do i have to change that location to somewhere in linux or i just leave it as it is
[06:32] <fouad_> ???
[06:32] <ferronica> jason: i did but error
[06:32] <NoUse> fouad_ no, wine creates a fake windows system in you rhome diectory
[06:32] <NoUse> fouad_ ~/.wine/drive_c
[06:32] <fouad_> so i dont change anything
[06:33] <NoUse> fouad_ no
[06:33] <fouad_> so i just suppose like im installing it in windows and press next all along
[06:33] <fouad_> ???
[06:33] <NoUse> fouad_ yes
[06:33] <andel7> how to make php work on my apache2 server?
[06:33] <rambo3> no youll have to configure wine
[06:33] <ferronica> jason: error while printing
[06:34] <fouad_> i tried on a different pc where wine was already installed to install a game called IAF, after i pressed next all along, and after the progress bar fineshed a error message poped saying that files couldnt be written to disk
[06:34] <ferronica> jason: when i choose print there no option for HP printer, only generic
[06:34] <fouad_> do u have any ideas ???
[06:34] <ferronica> jason: ubotu printer setting
[06:35] <_jason> ferronica: have you isntalled your printer?
[06:35] <rambo3> fouad, check wineHQ  app database for your game
[06:35] <NoUse> fouad_ maybe wine doesn't support the game
[06:35] <mugzie101> jason im kinda still confused its giving me all these codes  like sudo spt-get install flashplugin-nonfree stuff like that
[06:35] <ferronica> jason: i did nothing just connected it to USB
[06:35] <fouad_> so if it doesnt support it i cant play it ???
[06:35] <ferronica> jason: do i need to install hp printer software
[06:35] <_jason> mugzie101: when it says sudo aptitude install or sudo apt-get install that's the same as using synaptic
[06:36] <ferronica> jason: ?
[06:36] <rambo3> fouad_, you could e-mail game dev. and ask them why
[06:36] <mugzie101> ok so where do i imput those commands?
[06:36] <ferronica> ubotu: printer
[06:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:36] <fouad_> ok
[06:36] <igcek> hello! ive installed only ubuntu on a computer, i dont know why but in the end it installs grub? is grub needed if  theres only ubuntu on it? However, when i start the computer it does not go to grub, it tries to start it but then it resets, where could be the problem?
[06:36] <b08y> bc_: get it?, work perfectly for me,
[06:36] <fouad_> thnx alot nouse and rambo for ur help
[06:37] <b08y> bc_: and u see how that tool, add the right information in your smb.conf
[06:37] <_jason> mugzie101: you would use applications > accessories > terminal
[06:37] <fouad_> nouse are u an experienced user of linux
[06:37] <fouad_> ?????
[06:37] <mugzie101> ok thanks
[06:37] <NoUse> fouad_ I can hold my own
[06:37] <fouad_> where are u from ???
[06:37] <ferronica> jason: ?????
[06:38] <bc_> b08y: what is "gksu shares-admin", how do i get it?
[06:38] <_jason> ferronica: system > administration > printing
[06:38] <b08y> bc_: simply close all, that u have done with smb.conf , and use that tool :D , u can find it in System -> System -> shared files
[06:38] <NoUse> fouad_ US
[06:38] <_jason> ferronica: you need to put the _ in front of my name or else I will miss what you say
[06:38] <fouad_> do u think that ubuntu is the best distro ???
[06:38] <rambo3> !u
[06:38] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rambo3
[06:38] <ferronica> _ubotu: now its okay
[06:38] <mugzie101> huh its says pssword nd when i type it does sho any letter
[06:38] <rambo3> works only in debian channel
[06:39] <NoUse> fouad_ if you want to talk about that, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:39] <_jason> ferronica: no, you only need the _ for my name because that's how I spell it :)
[06:39] <prgrmr> i have problem with "sensors", i get -1 in my cpu temp
[06:39] <fouad_> ok, thnx anyway for ur help and for ur time
[06:39] <poi> hi
[06:39] <bc_> b08y: i use kde, there is no that option on my System
[06:40] <b08y> well, than u have a problem, i use Gnome, and its realy simple
[06:40] <ferronica> _jason: now its in RED???
[06:40] <_jason> ferronica: yellow actually, thanks
[06:40] <ferronica> _jason: lol
[06:40] <_cappiz> when i suddenly get readonly filesystem, whats happening ?
[06:40] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> is there a kind of disk defragmenter for linux?
[06:40] <ferronica> _jason: from there do i need to add printer???
[06:41] <wastrel> hey - i'm looking for text-to-speech apps that can read pdf, openoffice documents, web pages and terminal programs
[06:41] <_jason> ferronica: see if you can do it in system > administration > printing
[06:41] <mugzie101> um ujason when i type the command it ask for a password but when i try to enter it it does let me tyoe it in
[06:41] <LinuxJones> I got a new Iriver,  loaded the usb-storage module and the device is listed fine in dmesg but didn't get automagically mounted. Where do usb media drives get created and how do I mount it ?
[06:41] <ferronica> _jason: i am there only
[06:42] <rambo3> LinuxJones,  they are linked from /dev/sda to media
[06:42] <ferronica> _jason: what i choose add printer
[06:42] <_jason> ferronica: yes
[06:42] <mugzie101> ok i got it finally
[06:43] <LinuxJones> rambo3: argh there is no /dev/sda device on my system :(
[06:43] <rambo3> sda1 that is
[06:43] <wastrel> anyone know about text-to-speech on linux?
[06:43] <ferronica> _jason: there is one option install driver???
[06:43] <ferronica> _jason: shud i hit it???
[06:43] <_jason> ferronica: install the one for your printer, it should be self-explanatory
[06:44] <pppjjj> awesome, day 2 ive had off this week is also raining
[06:44] <LinuxJones> rambo3: there are no /dev/sd* devices at all
[06:44] <ferronica> _jason: how to install driver???
[06:44] <mikael_> Is there any way to restore the default icons?
[06:44] <ferronica> _jason: do i need CD of HP printer
[06:45] <LinuxJones> rambo3: the usb mass storage device is listed in dmesg output, I wonder where it could be hiding ?
[06:45] <_jason> ferronica: what is your pritner model?
[06:45] <ferronica> _jason: HP PSC 1400
[06:45] <ferronica> _jason: it showing me my model
[06:45] <_jason> ferronica: ok, then install it
[06:45] <rambo3> you could test fdisk and gparted to see what linus named it as
[06:46] <rambo3> *linux
[06:46] <ferronica> _jason: but when i hit install it take me to choose directory
[06:46] <_jason> ferronica: you don't need any cd, the program should do everything for you
[06:47] <ferronica> _jason: then i ignore install driver option
[06:47] <ferronica> _jason: and hit apply
[06:47] <mugzie101> ok um i installed flash do i need to restart or something?
[06:47] <ferronica> _jason: will i send u screen shot of it??????
[06:47] <LinkSlice> i'm a bsd snob whose giving ubuntu a try, and when I try to run the admin tools, I get prompted for root's password, but when I enter it, I get a dialog that says it's wrong, even though I can ctrl-alt-f1 and log in to the console with that password
[06:48] <_jason> ferronica: press install driver, just select the manufacturer and model and then press apply
[06:48] <rambo3> LinkSlice, you caould check faq and wiki
[06:48] <b08y> bc_: ...
[06:49] <_jason> ferronica: I meant to say: _don't_ press install driver, just press apply after selecting your printer
[06:49] <bc_> b08y: still stuck..., sorry
[06:49] <ich_bins> hallo
[06:49] <b08y> bc_: look at our personal chat!
[06:50] <rambo3> !tell LinkSlice about root
[06:50] <valehru> Is gkrellm the be all and end all of customisable monitoring tools?
[06:50] <valehru> should I look at some other package?
[06:50] <mikael_> Something is wrong with my icons, Anyone know how to restore them? (see http://212.3.13.56/)
[06:51] <marcie> I'm interested in the root password as well...i got to the $ part of the terminal...but it won't let me do anything i want to...no password
[06:51] <_jason> mikael_: choose a new icon theme
[06:51] <aimaz> reboot bye
[06:51] <marcie> i thought my sign in password would work
[06:51] <mugzie101> can u get yahoo messanger on this?
[06:51] <skipjack> .. busy webserver ^^
[06:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell marcie about sudo
[06:52] <rambo3> !tell marcie about root
[06:52] <mikael_> _jason, where do I find that?
[06:52] <_jason> mugzie101: gaim will let you connect to yahoo
[06:52] <LinkSlice> rambo3: that doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for...I am logged in, as a user that is in the admin group, but when I click on the updates button for example, type in my root pass, it tells me it can't log in as root....
[06:52] <marcie> I know of Sudo...but the program is trying to automatcially install...<sigh>
[06:52] <_jason> mikael_: system > preferences > themes > details > icons
[06:52] <mugzie101> yea but gaim does have all the yahoo features does it
[06:52] <skipjack> mikael_: use an other icon theme ..
[06:52] <mugzie101> like conference and stuff
[06:52] <rambo3> LinkSlice, does your user password work?
[06:52] <b08y> bc_: i have your problem, i think u have to comment out the "security=xyz"
[06:52] <LinkSlice> d'oh!  I never thought of using my password....duh, thanks :-)
[06:52] <marcie> I'll try again and see if i can get Sudo in...
[06:53] <bc_> b08y: why?
[06:53] <wastrel> marcels:  sudo -i
[06:53] <mikael_> _jason, doesnt make any difference....
[06:54] <wastrel> er, marcie  sudo -i
[06:57] <prgrmr> when i'm using sensors i get -1 in the cpu temp, can i fix it?
[06:57] <mikej_> ok i was just downloading updates, and one of them must have been an xserver update, it popped up the "display 0 in use, would you like to set another display channeL" msg.. if i clicked no it kept coming up, so i hit yes.. boom it makes me relog in
[06:57] <mikej_> but apparently im still logged in the other display too
[06:57] <mikej_> how do i get back to that one?
[06:57] <mikej_> i had freaking downloads and other stuff going on
[07:00] <mikael_> I've tried to change both theme and to change icon setup, but there's still wrong icons.. :-(
[07:01] <marcie> Thanks for the suggestions folks...I'll check those pages (i was off for a bit)
[07:01] <mugzie101> wow why is my motzilla always dragging to load
[07:01] <roy> umm
[07:02] <marcie> mugzie: do you mean firefox?
[07:02] <bobbyd> hi
[07:02] <mugzie101> yea
[07:02] <roy> say i was to burn the iso of an operating system (say freebsd) to a dvd+r do you think my computer would be able to boot from it? i dont wanna waste the dvd but i have more of them then i do cd'rs
[07:02] <bobbyd> how do I add a cron job to run something as root every ten minutes?
[07:02] <marcie> the version installed is slow...there is a page on how to install a newer version in the wiki...anyone know it?
[07:03] <marcie> Mine went much faster after i put it in...but i found it difficult to do (OTOH others don't find it that bad)
[07:03] <bobbyd> roy, you mean the installer disc?
[07:03] <roy> yeah
[07:03] <Decadent> is there a simple subtitle ripper for a noob??
[07:03] <mugzie101> marcie your talking bout firefox right?
[07:03] <roy> yeah the freebsd installer disc's
[07:03] <bobbyd> Decadent, dvd::rip ?
[07:03] <marcie> mugzie: yes...i think i have the link saved
[07:03] <roy> i wanna know if i can burn em to dvd and boot from em and install em that way
[07:03] <marcie> would it help if i got it?
[07:03] <roy> instead of a normal cdr
[07:03] <roy> ???
[07:03] <bobbyd> roy, if your PC is a recent (last 6-7 years) x86 pc then yes
[07:03] <mugzie101> if u can link that would be awsome
[07:03] <Decadent> keeps saying that it has an error
[07:03] <scottj> what's FTP server should I use just to allow dreamweaver to connect and upload files?
[07:04] <roy> could i burn all 3 disc's onto the one dvd or no???
[07:04] <bobbyd> roy, ahh, you want to burn the CD iso to a DVD? don't know about that, why not just get the DVD iso :)
[07:04] <Decadent> and i  cant gind any feedback for that error
[07:04] <bobbyd> roy, no, I don't think 3 into one would work
[07:04] <roy> i didnt know they had an iso dvd, i better check into that
[07:04] <marcie> try looking here on how to install another version of firefox https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:04] <mugzie101> ok
[07:04] <bobbyd> roy, they do for Ubuntu :)
[07:04] <Patrick_> Hey guys.
[07:05] <marcie> It solved my problem with speed
[07:05] <Patrick_> HEY, GUYS!
[07:05] <Patrick_> GUYS?
[07:05] <marcie> although...thunderbird is still slow...would installing it work the same way?
[07:05] <marcie> Girls...
[07:05] <Patrick_> GIRLS.
[07:05] <Patrick_> I DIDN'T MEAN THAT LITERALLY, OF COURSE.
[07:05] <mugzie101> i just want something fast um i have a sbc browser but idk if that linuc compatible
[07:05] <Patrick_> MY APOLOGIES.
[07:06] <roy> yeah
[07:06] <roy> but i already have ubuntu
[07:06] <marcie> It's ok...i just like to point it out now and then...
[07:06] <roy> i want freebsd
[07:06] <roy> :(
[07:06] <Patrick_> SO, MARCIE, DO YOU WANT A DORITO?
[07:06] <Spec> Patrick_: stop with the caps please
[07:06] <marcie> Patrick_: a Dorito?
[07:06] <Patrick_> OH YEAH.
[07:06] <Patrick_> SORRY SPEC.
[07:06] <Spec> ...
[07:06] <Patrick_> I'LL TURN THEM OFF.
[07:06] <Patrick_> I SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER.
[07:06] <Patrick_> OKAY
[07:06] <Patrick_> I'M TURNING THEM OFF NOW.
[07:06] <roy> fuckin lame
[07:06] <roy> turn em off
[07:07] <Spec> !ops
[07:07] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:07] <Patrick_> Yo, roy's fucking stupid.
[07:07] <Patrick_> He talks a lot of shit for a nerd.
[07:07] <Patrick_> Eh, roy?
[07:07] <Spec> heya ops :)
[07:07] <roy> ty
[07:07] <mugzie101> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:07] <marcie> anyone had successs using the same stuff to put in a newerer version of thunderbird, just alternating the file names?
[07:08] <mugzie101> so marcie that firefox will be faster?
[07:08] <rambo3> marcie, installing it from source?
[07:08] <r0xoR> marcie, yeh i'm using TB 1.5 and FF 1.5
[07:08] <echobinary> anyone know if there is more nvidia support in dapper?
[07:08] <r0xoR> marcie, the wiki has a good howto on that
[07:08] <Amaranth> if you want a fast web browser use epiphany
[07:08] <marcie> mugzie: It was a lot faster after that...the link i added talks about it...they don't know quite why...but the default is a problem
[07:08] <r0xoR> meh, FF 1.5 loads amazingly fast on my system
[07:08] <r0xoR> FF 1.0.8 loaded slow as *#&*%
[07:09] <roy> i dont
[07:09] <roy> lol
[07:09] <Amaranth> fast email client is a bit trickier
[07:09] <rambo3> echobinary, you could test dapper live cd , support is the same as always
[07:09] <marcie> hm...i don't know how to do stuff from source code quite yet...although i'm working on it...i think i've got wine installed (at least the basics)
[07:09] <mugzie101> um so i have to impt a code can u tell me wich code to input
[07:09] <Amaranth> evolution and thunderbird are about as good as it gets
[07:09] <r0xoR> echobinary, nvidia support is in nVidia :)
[07:09] <mikej> yes firefox, i promise you i dont want you to tell me about going to encrypted webpages. you dont have to ask me every time.
[07:09] <marcie> i was asking because i like using thunderbirds RSS program but it's slow as mollases
[07:09] <r0xoR> echobinary, manually installing the nvidia drivers has always worked well for me
[07:10] <r0xoR> marcie, try using Firefox RSS... the Sage extension
[07:10] <roy> sorry for the language
[07:10] <roy> didnt realise this was a server that didnt allow swearing
[07:10] <roy> :P
[07:10] <meheren> you no how apple has a "image mounter"that allowes you to mount disk images (.img files) is there a way to get something similar for ubuntu?
[07:10] <marcie> mugzie: You don't need a password for the firefox page on ubuntu
[07:11] <marcie> R0xor: I'll try now that i
[07:11] <mugzie101> huh no im talking bout the code u input in the terminal
[07:11] <marcie> I've got a newer version of Firefox...a lot of extensions wouldn't load because of the version
[07:11] <tahorg> meheren: .img is like .iso ?
[07:11] <meheren> yes
[07:11] <tahorg> I thik so
[07:12] <rambo3> not realy but same kind of files
[07:12] <tahorg> meheren: mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/thingy.iso /path/to/mount
[07:12] <meheren> tahorg, .img .iso .dmg .(somehting... no there is one more but fporgotten it)
[07:12] <marcie> Does anyone know if Firefox 2.0 will load in ubuntu?
[07:12] <tahorg> meheren: bin/cue
[07:12] <roy> what is a good program to burn dvd's in linux?? if my movie files are .avi
[07:12] <meheren> tahor, that';s it?
[07:12] <rambo3> .bin
[07:12] <meheren> ok thx
[07:12] <marcie> I'm used to using the beta testing versions...so being .5 behind is annoying
[07:13] <igcek> roy, a3b
[07:13] <roy> ty
[07:13] <marcie> well actually pretty much one version behind...
[07:14] <rambo3> youll brun avi as data file
[07:14] <roy> why data?
[07:14] <roy> if it is data will it work in dvd players?
[07:14] <roy> i want it to play on my tv
[07:14] <roy> =/
[07:14] <marcie> mugzie: can you repeat that...
[07:14] <roy> im using k3b right now
[07:14] <igcek> does your dvd suport divx?
[07:14] <rambo3> if  dvd player supports it, my does
[07:14] <roy> but it only burns data dvds
[07:14] <roy> mine doenst tho
[07:14] <marcie> mugzie: I had help getting it to work...i MIGHT be able to help you...
[07:14] <roy> doesnt support data dvd
[07:14] <roy> :(
[07:14] <meheren> tahorg, if my file is .img or somehting other then iso can i change the iso9660 to the img type?
[07:15] <meheren> or doesn't the mount command reconize others?
[07:15] <rambo3> then there is some encoding to do
[07:15] <mugzie101> well ok marcie help me out then
[07:15] <mugzie101> tell what to do step by step plz
[07:15] <tahorg> meheren: I don't know what .img is.
[07:16] <meheren> tahorg,
[07:16] <tahorg> meheren: file ./thing.img
[07:16] <meheren> oh ok
[07:16] <tahorg> meheren: what does it says ?
[07:16] <tahorg> say
[07:16] <marcie> Mugzie: I'll try...are you on the page link i gave you?
[07:16] <meheren> just sec
[07:16] <igcek> what would happen if i would unrar/zip ubuntu iso file, put it on a memory card then tryed booting from it? a computer
[07:16] <felipe__> Is there a way to assosiate user sessions with screen resolution?
[07:17] <marcie> it's here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:17] <rambo3> meheren, search synaptic form img iso convert
[07:17] <meheren> it says the following:/home/meheren/Desktop/Final.Fantasy.VII-Advent.Children.2004.R1.NTSC.DVDR-XPDVD/xpdvd-ff7ac-ntsc-dvdr.img: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'XPDVD_FF7
[07:17] <lachoss> hi
[07:17] <meheren> ok
[07:17] <mugzie101> yea i am
[07:17] <mugzie101> im on there
[07:18] <marcie> Mugzie: Go down a bit and you will see a link to download...i suggest you start that first
[07:18] <mugzie> ok i downloaded firefox already
[07:18] <marcie> do you know how to open terminal?
[07:18] <mugzie> so what next?
[07:19] <lachoss> i've just upgraded to dapper and i'm having problems with ndiswrapper: the pcmcia wireless card i was using (linksys wpc54g) is not working anymore. i've reinstalled ndiswrapper and the .inf file and rmmod/modprobe'd the module, and no errors appear in /var/log/messages, but the interface wlan0 is not there. any ideas on how to solve it? thanks!
[07:19] <marcie> open terminal applications, system tools, root terminal. It will ask for a password...it's the one you use to sign on
[07:19] <aLPHa_LeaK> lachoss, maybe eth0?
[07:19] <aLPHa_LeaK> lachoss, nothing on "iwconfig"?
[07:20] <mugzie> ok im in terminal
[07:20] <domanig> I have installed apache2 using "apt-get install apache2" but cant reach to localhost or 127.0.0.1, any more configs I need to do?
[07:20] <Farhad> when ubuntu 6.06 go out????????????
[07:20] <marcie> ok can you see the directory for firefox?
[07:20] <marcie> it would likely be in ~/Desktop
[07:20] <mugzie> um what u mean i just opened terminal thats it
[07:21] <mugzie> yea its in there
[07:21] <bobbyd> domanig, sudo /etc/ini.d/apache2 start ?
[07:21] <domanig> bobbyd, it is started
[07:21] <marcie> change to that directory...most likely what is on the wiki page   cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default
[07:21] <marcie> in one line
[07:22] <marcie> you need to save your defaults first...or you will loose your info
[07:22] <mugzie> change the directory in terminal or how?
[07:22] <bobbyd> domanig, sudo netsdtat -tap and see what port it's listening on
[07:22] <bobbyd> domanig, that should haev been netstat -tap :)
[07:22] <meheren> if i change the extension from a .img file to .iso will it goof things up?
[07:22] <marcie> to the mozilla firefox directory. What do you see now?
[07:22] <lachoss> aLPHa_LeaK: oh, yes, the card appears now as eth1. i should've checked better. *ashamed* thanks a lot:)
[07:22] <marcie> (i may not be the best teacher...i'm sorry)
[07:23] <bobbyd> domanig, if it's not listening on port 80, check /var/log/apache2/errors.log
[07:23] <aLPHa_LeaK> lachoss, cool :)
[07:23] <domanig> it is listening on port 1025 and 1026
[07:23] <bobbyd> domanig, and not *.www ?
[07:23] <mikael_> _jason, If i create and log in with a new user, the icons is correct, but not with my "ordinary" user..?
[07:23] <marcie> mugzie: the directions on the page need to generally go step by step but they worked
[07:24] <mugzie> now it says this
[07:24] <bobbyd> it shoudl say "local address" and *:www
[07:24] <marcie> ok...
[07:24] <mugzie> ~/.mozilla/firefox/n7xhb8um.default$
[07:24] <domanig> bobbyd, it doesent
[07:24] <marcie> ok
[07:24] <marcie> one sec
[07:24] <mugzie> k
[07:24] <bobbyd> domanig, check the log...
[07:24] <_jason> mikael_: maybe it's some kind of permission problem
[07:25] <marcie> shoot...i need to go...
[07:25] <mugzie> noooooo dang
[07:25] <marcie> one sec...i need to go to door
[07:25] <marcie> i'll be back
[07:25] <mikael_> _jason, Have any idea which files who can have the wrong permissions, or where to look?
[07:25] <bobbyd> domanig, you could also try localhost:1025 and see if it responds
[07:25] <marcie> ok i'm back
[07:26] <lachoss> aLPHa_LeaK: now i try to run dhclient on it and it says "receive_packet failed on eth1: network is down". if i try iwlist eth1 scan it says it doesn't support scanning. :$
[07:26] <_jason> mikael_: try this, it will make every file in your $HOME owned by you: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~
[07:26] <marcie> type this in...you are making a directory when you do this  mkdir ~/Desktop/ffsettings
[07:26] <bc_> b08y: hey, i solve my problems
[07:27] <mikej> whats a good usenet client
[07:27] <aLPHa_LeaK> lachoss, are you bound to a console?
[07:27] <mikael_> _jason, no difference.. :-(
[07:27] <aLPHa_LeaK> mikej, google groups ;)
[07:27] <mikej> not group
[07:27] <mikej> client
[07:27] <_jason> mikael_: did you change icons after doing that?
[07:27] <lachoss> aLPHa_LeaK: yes
[07:27] <mikej> i have a giganews account :)
[07:27] <mikael_> _jason, do I have to login again to see the changes?
[07:27] <user_> ola
[07:27] <mugzie> um i typed it in but its the same
[07:27] <_jason> mikael_: maybe...
[07:27] <domanig> bobbyd, no response on 1025 or 1026, nothing in error log other than a startup some days ago..
[07:27] <rambo3> mikael_, no
[07:27] <mikael_> _jason, I'll be back! ;-D
[07:27] <mikael_> or not.. hee
[07:27] <user_> oloa
[07:28] <bc_> b08y: i just change "obey pam restriction = yes"
[07:28] <mikael_> rambo3, Got any other suggestion?
[07:28] <bobbyd> domanig, ok, jsut remove it and reinstall, I just did it here and it's fine
[07:28] <mugzie> evrytime i press enter i get the same thing the default thing
[07:28] <user_> ola
[07:28] <bc_> b08y: thank u for helping me
[07:28] <marcie> what do you mean?
[07:28] <b08y> bc_: it should also work if u commented out " security =xyz"
[07:28] <domanig> bobbyd, you dont know how to set it to listen on port 80?
[07:28] <rambo3> get some better icons from gnome look, they install  unpacked
[07:28] <marcie> oh ok that is normal...what you are doing up is setting a directory up...
[07:28] <user_> olfkg
[07:28] <user_> gfg
[07:28] <user_> g
[07:28] <user_> g
[07:28] <user_> g
[07:28] <user_> g
[07:28] <user_> g
[07:29] <_jason> user_: stop
[07:29] <mugzie> ok now what
[07:29] <bc_> b08y: :D
[07:29] <marcie> if it's not giving you an error message you are ok
[07:29] <Mattia> hello
[07:29] <aLPHa_LeaK> lachoss, do you know what the SSID/password/stuff is?
[07:29] <marcie> All of this together...you are saving your bookmarks and such  cp bookmarks.html cert8.db cookies.txt formhistory.dat key3.db signons.txt history.dat  mimeTypes.rdf ~/Desktop/ffsettings
[07:29] <mwe> can somoe recommend a good gui program for remixing sound files?
[07:29] <marcie> cp is the copy command
[07:29] <bobbyd> domanig, I've never seen it not work, install using apt-get install apache2 and check for install errors
[07:29] <_jason> mwe: audacity?
[07:30] <bc_> b08y: do u play gunbound?
[07:30] <mwe> yes maybe I'll try it
[07:30] <bobbyd> domanig, port 80 is the default, it shouldn't be listening on anythign else, and infact it wont' start if something else has the port
[07:30] <b08y> bc_: what?
[07:30] <b08y> bc_: what is gnubound
[07:30] <domanig> bobbyd, I have x11vnc server running though?
[07:30] <marcie> linux is text sensitive...so you need to use the same...ie if it
[07:30] <marcie> it's a E put in E if it's e use e
[07:30] <bc_> b08y: gunbound is a game online
[07:31] <mugzie> wait it messed up brb
[07:31] <bobbyd> domanig, don't run anything else that uses port 80, or change apache in ports.cfg
[07:31] <domanig> bobbyd, I have some repsitorities problems on install, u know about a working rep file?
[07:31] <marcie> mugzie: you can cut and past most of this...i'm not sure about from here, but from the wiki page
[07:31] <bobbyd> domanig, just use the standard ones
[07:31] <lachoss> aLPHa_LeaK: i just found out the solution in ubuntu-fr, they say i must remove the modules ieee80211 ieee80211_crypt ieee80211softmac bcm43xx ndiswrapper. it worked :)
[07:31] <bobbyd> domanig, they're on the wiki
[07:31] <domanig> ok
[07:31] <lachoss> aLPHa_LeaK: thanks for your help anyway! :)
[07:32] <aLPHa_LeaK> lachoss, no problem ;)
[07:32] <mugzie> all those stuff your giving me is on the wiki page right
[07:32] <marcie> yup...
[07:32] <mugzie> ok um link me again cause this like messed up
[07:33] <marcie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:33] <marcie> I do need to go...but take each line by line and it should work...i'm sorry i can't stay longer right now...
[07:33] <domanig> bobbyd, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" gives me no output, guess it should?
[07:33] <bobbyd> yes
[07:33] <railk> having problems with ubuntu live cd (and other live cds)... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.hardware/browse_thread/thread/a882fb000b7cc333
[07:33] <domanig> changed port in ports.conf
[07:33] <mugzie> ok thanks
[07:33] <domanig> no luck
[07:33] <bobbyd> sounds like it's broken to me, use synaptic to "completely remove" it
[07:34] <domanig> ok
[07:34] <marcie> good luck...sorry i couldn't help longer
[07:34] <domanig> bobbyd, "sudo apt-get install apache2 php4" should be fine?
[07:34] <domanig> after uninstalling
[07:35] <bobbyd> domanig, yes
[07:36] <RobNyc> Hello anyone here has ATI ?
[07:36] <RobNyc> I just got a x1600 Pro and I would like to know if anyone has it working with Ubuntu
[07:37] <JRGC> What do i need to install to be able to see DVDs???
[07:37] <JRGC> Which enconder?????
[07:38] <_jason> !dvd
[07:38] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[07:40] <railk> help, someone? (link 15 lines up)
[07:40] <mariaca> hola
[07:40] <mariaca> flojo
[07:40] <web_reaver> hello
[07:41] <web_reaver> how can i use wine to open a .exe
[07:41] <_jason> web_reaver: wine /path/to/file.exe
[07:41] <web_reaver> thanks _jason
[07:41] <Mattia> wine file.exe
[07:41] <Mattia> azz
[07:41] <Mattia> :K
[07:42] <preglow> my hd based mp3 player just stopped being automatically mounted via usb by ubuntu for no reason i can see, while other usb based hd devices mount just fine. any pointer on what went wrong?
[07:42] <web_reaver> what would the path be to my cdrom
[07:43] <ljbuesch> web_reaver: Mine is /cdrom
[07:43] <avalost> !api
[07:43] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, avalost
[07:44] <Mikaeln> _jason, solved the problem by deleting the accound and then recreate it..  :-D
[07:44] <_jason> Mikaeln: that's one way :)  Glad you fixed it anyhow
[07:45] <Logi> I have a bit of a xinerama problem on my i915, but it feels like it's *almost* there. With the xorg.conf file at http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/555 I get the error log at http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/556 saying it can's find a "matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1)"
[07:45] <Mikaeln> _jason, Maybe there is a better way... but this one worked.. ;-)
[07:45] <web_reaver> _jason i tryed  wine cdrom0 setup.exe
[07:45] <web_reaver>  and i got a  wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\cdrom0.exe": Module not found
[07:45] <shelbys> hi
[07:45] <_jason> web_reaver: try #winehq for wine support
[07:45] <Old> i need a script todo this: ex, if i type ./cs1 it executes screen -mdS cs1 ./hlds_run -blabla - is this possible?
[07:45] <railk> how is it possible that ubuntu can't mound the cd it booted from?
[07:46] <hollowlife1987> web_reaver: try wine '/media/cdrom0/setup.exe'
[07:46] <ericmoritz\0> if I open up the Gnome volume control it gives me two devices, a alsa one and a oss one. I've turned everything up and made sure none are muted
[07:46] <ericmoritz\0> oops
[07:46] <ericmoritz\0> hi, I'm using a laptop that has a headphone jack.  At one point the internal speakers worked but at some point with Breezy the internal speakers stopped working.  The headphones still work fine although.  The internal speakers still work in Windows XP so it's not a hardware failure.  I updated to dapper in hopes it would get fixed, but it didn't.  Can anyone help me diagnose this?
[07:46] <Old> anyone? Appriciated if you can help me out, been trying out lots of stuff, just been given shit answers tbh
[07:46] <ryancr> does anyone know how to get the open office save dialog to show odt files on a directory mounted via gnome-vfs?
[07:47] <web_reaver> hollowlife1987   wine '/media/cdrom0/setup.exe'  worked thanks
[07:47] <_jason> Old: are you familiar with bash scripting?
[07:47] <Old> Not really _jason
[07:47] <Old> If you can help me out the easiest way i'd appriciate it
[07:47] <ryancr> for example say i have multple odt files saved on a mounted gnome-vfs share, then I do a Save As in the same location on the share...currently the Save Dialog does not show all the other odt files
[07:47] <Spec> Old: echo "screen -mdS cs1 ./hlds_run -blabla" > cs1
[07:48] <Spec> Old: chmod +x cs1
[07:48] <Spec> Old: ./cs1
[07:48] <Spec> Old: at the top of the file, cs1, you may want to add:     #!/bin/sh
[07:48] <ryancr> where as the Open dialog does.
[07:49] <Logi> sigh, xinerama always causes pain...
[07:50] <web_reaver> im out later thinks for the help
[07:50] <web_reaver> thanks!
[07:50] <enonu> I'm trying to setup a service.  Basically my setup is that I hav S & K aliases to an init.d script (/etc/init.d/cruisecontrol.sh) which calls another bash script (/usr/local/cc-2.5/cruisecontrol.sh) with start-stop-daemon which will then load java.  Things run fine from the script in the init.d directory (cruisecontrol.sh start) , but on system reboot, it runs java for a split second, then dies.  Any ideas?
[07:52] <Sandig> hello
[07:52] <Sandig> can i ask a question?
[07:52] <Spec> Sandig: no
[07:53] <Spec> Sandig: you're not permitted to :-/, everyone else can though.
[07:53] <mikej> whats freenodes offtopic i always forget
[07:53] <Sandig> heh
[07:53] <_jason> Sandig: you can ask any question except the one that asks for permission to ask one :)
[07:53] <Sandig> ok
[07:53] <Sandig> fair enough
[07:53] <Sandig> so
[07:53] <Sandig> i have a laptop with no cd drive but does support usb booting
[07:53] <Sandig> is there a ubuntu net-install image/version that i could put on a usb stick
[07:53] <mugzie> im having trouble installing new firefox
[07:53] <Sandig> to install to the laptop?
[07:54] <Old> Spec, didnt understand that part. Do i need todo a file called, ex cs1 ?
[07:54] <Old> then add:
[07:54] <Old> #!/bin/sh
[07:54] <Old> echo "screen -mdS cs1 ./hlds_run -blabla" > cs1
[07:54] <Old> ?
[07:54] <_jason> Old: no, that echo command just puts the stuff in between the quotes into the file cs1.  You can just add it yourself if you want
[07:55] <alex_joni> hello, anyone familiar with building live cd's ?
[07:55] <Old> one second _jason..
[07:55] <roryy> Sandig: have you looked through these ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[07:56] <crazy_penguin> hi all
[07:56] <mugzie> has anyone ever updated firefox and can u help me?
[07:56] <crazy_penguin> with what command can i reconfigure the xserver? dpkg-reconfigure ...?
[07:57] <harisund> mugzie: I am assuming you are using Breezy and want to get the 1.5.0. version of Firefox?
[07:57] <_jason> crazy_penguin: ... = xserver-xorg
[07:57] <harisund> crazy_penguin: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:57] <crazy_penguin> thx
[07:57] <mugzie> um idk what im using its um 5.0 or something in ubuntu
[07:57] <crazy_penguin> brb
[07:57] <Old> _jason, is this correct? http://members.chello.se/warlock/cs1.sh
[07:57] <mugzie> im still a new guy to linux
[07:58] <echobinary> can anyone recomend a pci-x nvdia card thats not too pricey for rendering opengl 2.0?
[07:58] <mugzie> harisund: im trying to do firefox 1.5
[07:58] <matgates> How does beagled start up?  Is it when I log in?  If so, what is it started from?
[07:58] <harisund> mugzie, if you follow the instructions word -by -word mentioned on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion you should be fine.
[07:58] <_jason> Old: no, get rid of echo " at the beginning and " > cs1 at the end
[07:59] <Old> let me update it and show it
[07:59] <mugzie> i did but the thing im having trouble with is the opt thing
[07:59] <Old> http://members.chello.se/warlock/cs1.sh
[07:59] <Old> that?
[07:59] <Sandig> rory: yep i did. the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot page would be good but i don't have access to changing any dhcp/dns server settings
[07:59] <RobNyc> I just got a x1600 Pro and I would like to know if anyone has it working with Ubuntu
[07:59] <RobNyc> !ATI
[07:59] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:00] <_jason> Old: no, get rid of all the ", the >, and the cs1 at the end
[08:00] <Old> let me try again then..
[08:00] <_jason> Old: you could jsut do this with an alias by the way
[08:00] <mikej> whats freenodes offtopic?
[08:01] <mikej> its hidden i remember that
[08:01] <Old> http://members.chello.se/warlock/cs1.sh - correct?
[08:01] <roryy> mikej: you're welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic (not sure what you're talking about)
[08:01] <mikej> freenodes main offtopic chan
[08:01] <mikej> theres a huge one
[08:01] <mikej> i always forget what it is though
[08:02] <_jason> Old: should be
[08:02] <Sandig> roryy: i could really do with a usb image that contains just a basic kernel and some drivers and will then go get all the packages it needs to install of the net
[08:02] <Sandig> *off
[08:02] <Old> _jason, so that would work?
[08:02] <_jason> Old: try it
[08:02] <alex_joni> is there an #ubuntu-dev ?
[08:02] <Old> I cant, thats the problem. Im preparing stuff for the new rackserver tomorrow.
[08:02] <_jason> Old: remember you have to chmod +x the file
[08:03] <roryy> Sandig: this is not sufficient? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:03] <Old> yeah, I will remember that. Where should the .sh files be?
[08:03] <mugzie> um jason when installing fire fox i download it and it says on the instrutions #
[08:03] <mugzie> Download firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz from [WWW]  http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ , and change to the directory you downloaded it to.
[08:03] <mugzie> #
[08:03] <mugzie> Install it to /opt/firefox:
[08:04] <mugzie> what do they mean and change it to the directory u downloaded it to and install it to opt firefox?
[08:04] <_jason> Old: wherever you want, but if you want ot run it from anywhere you would put it somewhere in your $PATH
[08:04] <roryy> Sandig: ubotu has a 'netinstall' factoid, not sure what that's about
[08:04] <Sandig> roryy: forgot to mention, the only usb stick i have accessable to me is only 128mb
[08:04] <Spec> Old: yeap, that .sh looks good
[08:04] <mugzie> can someone help me
[08:04] <roryy> ah
[08:04] <Spec> Old: if you want to './cs1', put it in your home directory
[08:04] <roryy> !tell Sandig about netinstall
[08:04] <_jason> Old: erm that was badly phrased.  If you want to run it without providing the full path, just the name like you do other commands, you would put it in your $PATH
[08:04] <Spec> Old: if you want to type $ cs1, whever you are, put it in a folder that's in your PATH, type: echo $PATH   to see your $PATH
[08:05] <echobinary> anyone know what the turnaround is for nvidia drivers? specificaly when does the geforce 7300GS get support?   :)
[08:05] <roryy> Sandig: just to be clear, i've never used any of these -- just trying to point you in a hopefully helpful direction
[08:05] <mugzie> can someone help me out
[08:05] <mugzie> im trying to install firefox and im confused on this part
[08:05] <mugzie> #
[08:05] <mugzie> Download firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz from [WWW]  http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ , and change to the directory you downloaded it to.
[08:05] <mugzie> #
[08:05] <mugzie> Install it to /opt/firefox:
[08:06] <Sandig> roryy: no problem. what ya got?
[08:06] <_jason> mugzie: don't paste here please
[08:06] <mugzie> what do they mean change to the dierectry u downloaded it to and also what they mean instally it to /opt/firefox
[08:06] <roryy> Sandig: check your privmsgs from ubotu
[08:06] <Old> what i meant was, where should the .sh files be put in? I have the /home/cs1, then /home/cs2 etc, Is there a possibility to put all of the .sh files in a folder so it works everywhere, or do i have to put it in the folder i wish to run the ./hlds_run from
[08:06] <Old> ?
[08:06] <mugzie> o sorry jason i just wanted to point that out sorry but can someone help me
[08:07] <_jason> mugzie: in less than 3 weeks, you will be able to upgrade to dapper and get firefox1.5 through the repositories
[08:07] <Old> ex, the .sh file in /home/cs1 to run the /cs1 alias
[08:07] <mugzie> o for real
[08:07] <Sandig> roryy: checked. thanks for all your help.
[08:07] <mugzie> so what u should just wait?
[08:07] <_jason> mugzie: that is what I suggest
[08:07] <mugzie> ok thanks
[08:07] <mugzie> also what is mplayer?
[08:07] <echobinary> will dapper have more hardware support?
[08:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell mugzie about mplayer
[08:08] <hanuma> is there any player for playing wmv files
[08:08] <hanuma> ?
[08:08] <Spec> Old: You should specify the full path to hlds_run if you wish to execute that script wherever you are
[08:08] <alex_joni> roryy: does ubotu know about udeb's ?
[08:08] <Spec> Old: you can put the .sh files in /usr/local/bin if you want to run them wherever you are
[08:08] <mugzie> its because this firefox is slow for someodd reason i was wondering if i can get a faster browser or something
[08:08] <Old> thanks
[08:08] <echobinary> is this thing on?
[08:08] <Spec> old: be sure to specify the full path to hlds_run though
[08:09] <roryy> alex_joni: doesn't look like it
[08:09] <Old> How Spec ? how would the line look if i speceficed the full path?
[08:09] <Spec> where is hlds_run?
[08:09] <alex_joni> roryy: any idea where I can learn about that?
[08:09] <Spec> Old: is it in your home directory?
[08:10] <roryy> alex_joni: hrm, sorry, no
[08:10] <Old> Spec, /home/cs1
[08:10] <alex_joni> roryy: ok thanks
[08:10] <Spec> Old: so it's /home/cs1/hlds_run ?
[08:10] <respaldos> holasssssssssss
[08:10] <Old> no Spec, it is in /home/cs1
[08:10] <Spec> Old: screen -mdS cs1 /home/cs1/hlds_run -game cstrike +maxplayers 12 -port 27015 +map de_dust2
[08:11] <respaldos> el passd de ubunto... como se cambia?
[08:11] <Spec> Old: hlds_run is an executable, and it sits in the folder /home/cs1?
[08:11] <respaldos> en el root
[08:11] <Spec> !ubuntu-es
[08:11] <ubotu> Spec: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:11] <Spec> !spanish
[08:11] <ubotu> Spec: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:11] <Spec> gah
[08:11] <Spec> !es
[08:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:11] <Old> it's executable
[08:11] <bipolar> ok. does anyone know a reason why the mysql server in ubuntu (dapper for me) does not support ssl? I thought that the licencing issues were taken care of....
[08:12] <Old> Spec, I run ./hlds_run when i am in the dir /home/cs1
[08:12] <Spec> Old: okay, then the command I gave you above is correct
[08:12] <roryy> alex_joni: a not especially useful definition: http://wiki.debian.org/udeb
[08:12] <Old> Thank you
[08:13] <martin__> HOLA
[08:14] <martin__> ALGUN CANAL EN ESPAOL
[08:14] <martin__> algun canal en espaol
[08:14] <roryy> !es
[08:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:15] <martin__> como entro a ubuntu-es
[08:15] <railk>  /join #ubntu-es
[08:16] <martin__> pero como entro al canal de ubuntu-es
[08:16] <alex_joni> martin__: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:18] <alex_joni> roryy: thanks..
[08:18] <alex_joni> roryy: any idea where I should turn to questions about building a liveCD & changing the udebs on it? especially the kernel..
[08:19] <roryy> alex_joni: not really, sorry. The mailing lists might be a good place to start
[08:19] <martin__> como entro a ubuntu-es
[08:19] <roryy> alex_joni: is this any good? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[08:20] <roryy> martin__: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:21] <alex_joni> roryy: I've already successfully used that one for adding packages
[08:21] <Didimo> alguin que quiera intercambiar ideas
[08:21] <railk> martin__: mecanografe /join #ubuntu-es (espero que es comprensible)
[08:22] <railk> babelfish 4tw...
[08:23] <martin__> #ubuntu-es
[08:23] <railk> con /join
[08:23] <Larsson-Sweden> I need an app to check my partition for errors, just like the one in the bootup that forces a check when it has been mounted 30 times.
[08:24] <hollowlife1987> Larsson-Sweden: e2fsck i think its called
[08:25] <Larsson-Sweden> hollowlife1987, it cant be used on mounted file systems.
[08:25] <mikej> god bless myspace
[08:25] <hollowlife1987> oh hmm
[08:25] <Larsson-Sweden> It can be a gui, just want to check it, not repair anything.
[08:26] <hollowlife1987> dont know then sorry
[08:26] <roryy> Larsson-Sweden: can you boot from the livecd?
[08:27] <odyssey> hello
[08:27] <Didimo> hello
[08:27] <Larsson-Sweden> A file system check was forced when booting Ubuntu. It said it found errors and that they where repaired. The fs is working and was working fine before the check. Do i need to worry?
[08:27] <ed1t> im planning on installing ubuntu on my laptop....i got a 60 GB harddrive, how should i setup my hard drive? i want a dualk boot
[08:27] <ed1t> dual*
[08:28] <mikej> edit, the installer will walk you through it
[08:28] <railk> heeelp plzzzz... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.hardware/browse_thread/thread/a882fb000b7cc333
[08:28] <mikej> assuming you dont have multiple sata hdd's its pretty simple
[08:28] <ed1t> i know but like shall i share the data drive between windows and linux? or have seperate
[08:28] <mikej> it has to make a partition
[08:28] <mikej> it will take your drivse freespace and partition it
[08:28] <mikej> most likely after resizing the windows partition
[08:29] <mikej> so theoretically it wont touch windows
[08:29] <mikej> then youll have a bootloader that will look at XP or Linux
[08:29] <mikej> and you select
[08:29] <ed1t> im gonna wipe everything and do it from fresh
[08:29] <ed1t> scratch
[08:29] <mikej> why
[08:29] <alex_joni> ed1t: install the other OS first, and leave some space for ubuntu
[08:29] <mikej> install XP first then
[08:29] <mikej> yep
[08:29] <mikej> can NTFS be writting over LVM
[08:29] <mikej> or is LVM a completely separate file system
[08:30] <mikej> written
[08:30] <roryy> ed1t: linux and windows can read each others' partitions (for windows you need to get a tool). If you do want a read/write shared partition, set aside some space for a FAT partition (a few gig, say)
[08:30] <alex_joni> mikej: LVM is not a FS afaik
[08:30] <ed1t> so should i make windows partition NTFS or fat32?
[08:30] <mikej> ntfs
[08:30] <alex_joni> ed1t: the big windows partition NTFS, but make a smaller one FAT32 for data transfer
[08:30] <prefect_> ed1t: you cant write to ntfs
[08:30] <alex_joni> linux has some issues writing NTFS
[08:31] <prefect_> (or, cant write to ntfs and sleep without worrying at night)
[08:31] <alex_joni> prefect_: not entirely true, but adviseable ;)
[08:31] <Ayabara> edit1: also there are ext-fs drivers for windows that you can use
[08:31] <Ayabara> sorry, ed1t :-)
[08:31] <mikej> so i dont understand LVM.. Right now my entire 36 hdd is LVM. Can I just install XP ontop of it, or will it have to convert
[08:32] <ed1t> so say 20 GB for NTFS win partition, 20 GB for data disk Fat32, and 20 GB for ubuntu partition
[08:32] <Ayabara> I use total commander under windows, and it has a ext/reiser fs-plugin that hasn't failed me yet
[08:32] <alex_joni> ed1t: sounds good, but you might want a swap partition for ubuntu
[08:32] <ed1t> yea
[08:32] <Tonren> Hay guys.
[08:32] <ed1t> ill add that too
[08:32] <alex_joni> 20 G NTFS, 20G data FAT32, 18G ubuntu, 2G swap
[08:32] <ed1t> wat about /user and /root dir for ubuntu
[08:33] <Tonren> How's everyone?
[08:33] <alex_joni> but leave the last 20G free (after the XP install), and the ubuntu installer should determine what's best
[08:33] <andreasc89> can I become a root user without rebooting or logging out?
[08:33] <andreasc89> ubuntu 5.10
[08:33] <alex_joni> andreasc89: use sudo
[08:33] <mikej> i have 2g of ram cant i turn of swap file
[08:33] <andreasc89> how?
[08:33] <alex_joni> mikej: you can, but it doesn't hurt to use it
[08:33] <andreasc89> what is sudo?
[08:34] <scifi> hi guys, just installed the xcellent beep player.  i actually like the default skin, but how wud i go about adding/trying other skins ?
[08:34] <mikej> andreasc89, type sudo in terminal
[08:34] <hav0k> hi
[08:34] <alex_joni> andreasc89: sudo infront of any command will run it as root
[08:34] <andreasc89> ok
[08:34] <Tonren> I think it's short for "super-user do"
[08:34] <alex_joni> andreasc89: sudo = SuperUserDO
[08:34] <ericz> is it bad to always have swap in use?
[08:34] <andreasc89> I want to access another partion
[08:34] <andreasc89> but the disk program refuces
[08:34] <alex_joni> andreasc89: sudo mount ..
[08:34] <kbrooks> andreasc89: no need to be root
[08:34] <andreasc89> it says so
[08:34] <andreasc89> it's a ntfs partion
[08:35] <scifi> anyone ?
[08:35] <Tonren> Hey, can anyone help me out getting started installing Ubuntu on my Presario v2000?  I just ordered a couple of Ubuntu AMD64 CDs, and I'm not sure how to go about shrinking my XP NTFS partition (I'd like to dual boot).
[08:35] <prefect_> but hi guys
[08:35] <tjj> exit
[08:36] <prefect_> i got ubuntu (amd64) and i wanna download stuff from a source with apt. but this specific source has only binary-i386, not binary-amd64
[08:36] <prefect_> can i make apt look in the right place or is there any other method for doing this
[08:36] <NoUse> Tonren if you boot from the livecd, you can run gparted which can resize NTFS drives, I would run a defrag on it before you to do though
[08:36] <prefect_> ask the apt-mirror to make a symlink? :)
[08:36] <hav0k> how do i get sound for when i watch videos from you tube in ubuntu?
[08:36] <ed1t> anybody know where do i get the the ubuntu for VMware ?
[08:37] <NoUse> prefect_ source is probably platform independent
[08:37] <Tonren> NoUse, the ShipIt CDs come with the gparted utility?
[08:37] <ed1t> i wanna try it befoe i actually install
[08:37] <NoUse> Tonren did you order the live cd?
[08:37] <prefect_> nouse: this is unfortunatly binaries
[08:37] <cmatheson> hi, i need to read through a file in a bash script... the -u parameter to read wants a 'file descriptor' though.  how can i get a file descriptor for an arbitrary file?
[08:38] <Tonren> NoUse, I'm not sure what you mean by "live CD".  I ordered whatever it is ubuntu.com sends you when you click through to ShipIt.
[08:38] <Tonren> I don't see the term "live CD" on the page anywhere, though
[08:38] <metatag> /j
[08:38] <hav0k> can anyone tell me how to fix the sound in firefox for embeded videos
[08:38] <andreasc89> now it says "Couldn't display "/dev/hda1".
[08:38] <gnomefreak> Tonren: they send for each one you order an install cd and a live cd
[08:39] <andreasc89> any idea of what's wrong?
[08:39] <scifi> hi guys, just installed the xcellent beep player.  i actually like the default skin, but how wud i go about adding/trying other skins ?
[08:39] <Tonren> gnome, wha'ts the difference?  is a Live CD an actual instance of Ubuntu, and not an installer?
[08:39] <gnomefreak> Tonren: why are you ordering breezy cds now?
[08:39] <Tonren> gnome, good point; I should probably wait for the next release...
[08:39] <voraistos> hey guys! i have a pocket pc running windows, and all i want is to access it like a drive (for my one gig SD card.) anyone has an idea ?
[08:39] <gnomefreak> Tonren: live cd will not install ubuntu to harddrive
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Tonren: dappers live cd will but breezys wont
[08:40] <Tonren> gnome, I'm still a little confused about the difference b/w Live and Install CDs.  what's the point of a Live CD?  to boot off of so you can configure your machine?
[08:40] <NoUse> Tonren to try out ubuntu without having to install it
[08:41] <gnomefreak> Tonren: live cd allows you to run ubuntu without installing it to harddrive
[08:41] <roryy> !livecd
[08:41] <andreasc89> what do I write to mount the disk?
[08:41] <Ayabara> I have a Dell laptop with multimedia keys. Is there a way to make the volume buttons work with Headphone volume  instead of Master volume?
[08:41] <roryy> bah
[08:41] <Tonren> so it IS an actual instance of Ubuntu.  cool!
[08:41] <kbrooks> Tonren: highlight, use tabs
[08:41] <roryy> !+livecd
[08:41] <ubotu> from memory, livecd is useful for playing with or trying out (k)ubuntu without installing it or making any changes to your system. grab one from the download page at http://www.ubuntulinux.org or request via ship-it.  To remaster your own, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo .
[08:41] <andreasc89> sry for all dumb questions
[08:41] <Tonren> kbrooks: Huh?  I think you may have read the wrong name
[08:41] <UKMatt> does anyone know of a way to mount an ubuntu drive in windows?
[08:41] <hav0k> UKMatt, yeah
[08:41] <UKMatt> hav0k, how?
[08:42] <NoUse> !ext3
[08:42] <ubotu> ext3 is, like, a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/written from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[08:42] <kbrooks> andreasc89: dumb questions? i'll have to do something about people saying "sorry for these dumb questions"
[08:42] <hav0k> UKMatt, how do you have your drive?
[08:42] <voraistos> reiserfs can be supported i think
[08:42] <hav0k> UKMatt, what file system
[08:42] <UKMatt> hav0k, what do you mean?
[08:42] <UKMatt> hav0k, /
[08:42] <kbrooks> andreasc89: netiquette does not include "do NOT ask 'dumb' questions"
[08:42] <voraistos> no, how did u format it ?
[08:42] <voraistos> which fs ?
[08:42] <Tonren> Ayabara, this may be a stupid question, but does the software actually differentiate between the two?  on Windows XP the master volume *is* the headphone volume
[08:42] <g0dchild> does anyone know a good application to monitor system logs?
[08:42] <kbrooks> andreasc89: what is a dumb question?
[08:43] <gnomefreak> one not asked
[08:43] <NoUse> UKMatt did you just do a default ubuntu install?
[08:43] <scifi> *cries*
[08:43] <animato> hello, is it safe to un-install the ubuntu-desktop package?
[08:43] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: right
[08:43] <gnomefreak> animato: yes
[08:43] <NoUse> animato it won't really accomlish anything, but you can
[08:43] <UKMatt> nouse, yeah I'm guessing, i don't know what else you guys mean so i guess that means i have the default
[08:44] <animato> will i be able to get the latest updates and such with it removed?
[08:44] <Tonren> I can't WAIT to finally get Linux running on this stupid laptop!
[08:44] <Tonren> Windows is hell.
[08:44] <gnomefreak> NoUse: im betting something he wants to install/remove is asking for it to go to
[08:44] <NoUse> UKMatt http://www.fs-driver.org
[08:44] <Ayabara> Tonren: it does. when I use the keys, the master volume increases, but the headphone volume is the same. when I pull out the headphones, the internal speaker has a higher volume
[08:44] <NoUse> gnomefreak yeah
[08:44] <gnomefreak> animato: yes
[08:44] <scifi> noone knows how to install different skins for beep then ? ;x
[08:44] <animato> ok thanx
[08:44] <kbrooks> animato: yes. just reinstall it when you upgrade
[08:45] <animato> oh ok
[08:45] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: is that still needed with update-manage -d?
[08:45] <animato> it's only needed for upgrades?
[08:45] <kbrooks> animato: ubuntu-desktop does not *contain* the ubuntu desktop
[08:45] <UKMatt> nouse, oh i have ext3
[08:45] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[08:45] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu-desktop was a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading
[08:45] <animato> i know it doesn't, i was just wondering what exactly does it do
[08:45] <NoUse> UKMatt then the link I sent you shoudl be perfect
[08:45] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: that reinstalled the package for me
[08:45] <UKMatt> nouse, tyvm
[08:45] <Tonren> Ayabara: Bizarre... I did a quick Google search.  I think the answer lies in the Volume Control Applet.
[08:45] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: ok cool
[08:46] <Tonren> Ayabara: It's Applications -> Sound & Video
[08:46] <animato> i never upgrade, i always do a fresh install and keep my /home partition whenever there's a new ubuntu ver, so i guess it doesn't matter to me :)
[08:46] <Ayabara> Tonren: Thanks. Haven't found it there yet, but found a post explaining about fixing it with lineakd
[08:46] <gnomefreak> animato: nope it doesnt
[08:46] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: if you like, you can s/, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading// on june 1
[08:46] <Tonren> Ayabara: I found this link on Google: http://wm-eddie.info/nx4300/  Scroll down to "Sound" to read what I read
[08:47] <gnomefreak> !sound
[08:47] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:47] <Tonren> Animato: Is it difficult to set up a /home partition instead of making it a child of the OS partition?
[08:47] <animato> nope torren
[08:47] <kbrooks> Tonren: not hard
[08:47] <animato> you just create a new partition when you install
[08:48] <animato> and you label it as /home
[08:48] <Ayabara> Tonren: thanks. have to find the volume control applet in dapper :-)
[08:48] <animato> that's it
[08:48] <kbrooks> animato: i think after the install (?)
[08:48] <Tonren> I'm still new to Linux... does everything except for OS files go in /home?
[08:48] <animato> oh
[08:48] <animato> i have no idea
[08:48] <animato> never did it after installing
[08:48] <Tonren> Ayabara: Cool - good luck!  Maybe add your solution to the Wiki.
[08:48] <kbrooks> Tonren: "everything"?
[08:48] <kbrooks> Tonren: ~ (/home/username/) is yours
[08:49] <Tonren> kbrooks: Haha, bad question, sorry.  Suppose I download Apache and have it run; does it behoove me to install it into my /home partition, or my OS partition?
[08:50] <kbrooks> Tonren: ium, apache isnt a turnkey application. you more like have to go through 3 doors and pass checks at each door
[08:50] <andreasc89> if I mount a new disk, where does it appaer?
[08:50] <andreasc89> can't see it on the desktop anyway
[08:50] <Tonren> kbrooks: so, how does that affect which partition Apache lives on?  I'm sorry if I'm not phrasing my question right... I'm such a Linux noob.
[08:50] <kbrooks> andreasc89: there is no default path
[08:51] <crazy_penguin> can someone tell what character is after root: in the root account line in /etc/shadow? i made a mistake and i need to erase the password and make it like it was at the default installation.
[08:51] <andreasc89> how do I choose the path?
[08:51] <kbrooks> Tonren: at the first door, you can choose the path
[08:51] <andreasc89> I wrote: 'sudo mount dev/hda1'
[08:51] <andreasc89> was it wrong?
[08:51] <kbrooks> Tonren: the "doors" i'm talking about are the compilation commands
[08:51] <Tonren> kbrooks: like "configure" and "make install"?
[08:52] <mabus> Can somebody help me setup mu sshd so it's run on port 21 (I know, generally ftp) and people can connect to it? I have it on port 21 but I get this error when I connect.
[08:52] <mabus> http://pastebin.ca/55170
[08:52] <kbrooks> Tonren: 3 commands. ./configure (options); make; make install
[08:52] <Tonren> kbrooks: right.  so... is it a bad idea to have Apache's binaries live on your /home partition?
[08:52] <NoUse> mabus can you pastebin your ssh logs?
[08:53] <crazy_penguin> mabus : write in /etc/sshd_conf the following line
[08:53] <crazy_penguin> mabus : Port 22
[08:53] <swarmz> i am using gnome terminal 2.12.0. if i close the window, will my script that i initiated after sshing to my server continue running on the server?
[08:53] <kbrooks> Tonren: you can say ./configure --prefix in the directory of the apache source
[08:53] <crazy_penguin> but you must write it before Listen statement
[08:53] <kbrooks> Tonren: you want to get the apache package
[08:54] <kbrooks> Tonren: "apt-get install apache2"
[08:54] <Delicate_Shadow> hi guys
[08:54] <Tonren> kbrooks: I know you can install it wherever you want, I guess I'm just asking where it "usually" gets installed
[08:54] <farruinn> swarmz: I think closing your window will close the ssh connection and stop any processes on the server, but that's just a guess
[08:54] <Delicate_Shadow> I have a one small questions
[08:54] <Tonren> 'sup Delicate_Shadow
[08:54] <Tonren> whoa... I just realized that gaim has tab completion on names.
[08:54] <kbrooks> Tonren: the default path without ./configure specified is /usr/local
[08:54] <gnomefreak> Delicate_Shadow: ask it so we can help you with it
[08:54] <swarmz> Tonren: the beta or the latest stable?
[08:54] <kbrooks> Tonren: --prefix *
[08:55] <Delicate_Shadow> does Ubuntu supports Multimedia by default ??? or do I have to install the packages manually ?
[08:55] <Delicate_Shadow> Hi Tonren
[08:55] <Tonren> swarmz: Latest stable is what I'm using
[08:55] <gnomefreak> Delicate_Shadow: install packages depending on what you are wanting
[08:55] <swarmz> i've been waiting for the next release of gaim for fucking ages
[08:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Delicate_Shadow about restricted
[08:55] <Tonren> kbrooks: so, which partition is /usr on?
[08:55] <kbrooks> Tonren: the / partition
[08:55] <gnomefreak> swarmz: language and 2.0 is not looking on track atm
[08:55] <NoUse> Delicate_Shadow to get mp3 support you have to install other packages
[08:56] <kbrooks> swarmz: language
[08:56] <Tonren> swarmz: I'm pretty comfortable with the latest release.  been using on XP SP2
[08:56] <swarmz> i can't swear in this channel?
[08:56] <Delicate_Shadow> ok ok guys then it's more like Fedora and SuSE
[08:56] <gnomefreak> no
[08:56] <kbrooks> !tell Delicate_Shadow about easyubuntu
[08:56] <swarmz> holy fudge
[08:56] <swarmz> sorry
[08:56] <Tonren> kbrooks: So there are two partitions, / and /home, kind of?
[08:56] <kbrooks> Delicate_Shadow: Use this program
[08:56] <kbrooks> Tonren: you can choose the structure you like
[08:57] <NoUse> Delicate_Shadow ubuntu has the same aversion to lawsuits that Fedora and Suse has I believe
[08:57] <swarmz> i accidently treated this channel like the IRC channel at work :P
[08:57] <Delicate_Shadow> ok ok I got the point
[08:57] <Tonren> kbrooks: of course.  so... I'm assuming there's just some option in Ubuntu that lets you set your /home directory, and you can point it at the /home partition, right?
[08:57] <swarmz> gnomefreak: know any information about why it's taking so long or the progress status?
[08:57] <kbrooks> Tonren: right
[08:57] <gnomefreak> swarmz: no i dont
[08:57] <Delicate_Shadow> thanx guys
[08:58] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: why op yourself?
[08:58] <Tonren> btw, does anyone knowthe date when ShipIt will take requests for Dapper CDs?
[08:58] <crimsun> kbrooks: to keep the hounds at bay.
[08:58] <Spec> why op yourself when you could op me instead? ^.^
[08:58] <mugzie> hey um does anyone know where to get and how to install the win32 codec pack>
[08:58] <Samuli^> Tonren, It says somewhere in middle of may in the wiki.
[08:58] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrr
[08:59] <jleino> Hello: Any Nautilus experts around that could help? I would like to make a link in Gnome to point an automounted directory. Nautilus misbehaves...
[08:59] <kbrooks> spec: why do you want power?
[08:59] <crimsun> Spec: you can apply to be one
[08:59] <Tonren> Samuli^: Aye.. .it says so on the ShipIt page, I'm just impatient to know.  hehe
[08:59] <Spec> kbrooks: so i can -o :)
[08:59] <kbrooks> Tonren: midmay
[08:59] <Spec> !restricted
[08:59] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:59] <Spec> mugzie ^^
[08:59] <kbrooks> spec: youre already -o
[08:59] <Spec> but I want to be +o so I can be -o'd
[08:59] <Samuli^> Tonren, supposedly they don't know themselves and that's why there's no exact date :)
[08:59] <mugzie> yea spec?
[08:59] <kbrooks> spec: righttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
[08:59] <Tonren> Samuli^: Fair enough!  ;P
[08:59] <marcello> Hi
[09:00] <_jason> heh that's funny
[09:00] <Spec> mugzie: what ubotu said, go to     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:00] <gnomefreak> lol should i unban him?
[09:00] <r0xoR> hahahahah, omg
[09:00] <Spec> haha, did he just get kicked by ubugtu?
[09:00] <marcello> My name is Marcello, and I'm a new user of UBUNTU
[09:00] <_jason> jleino: how are you trying to do it?
[09:00] <r0xoR> welcome marcello
[09:00] <martin__> #ubuntu-es
[09:00] <metatag> marcello: from italy?
[09:00] <mugzie> spec will that tell me what to do?
[09:00] <marcello> Oh.. thanks
[09:00] <marcello> No. I'm from Brazil
[09:00] <Spec> mugzie: yes it will.
[09:00] <mugzie> ok
[09:00] <Samuli^> is there a dapper-spesific channel?
[09:00] <r0xoR> !es
[09:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:01] <Spec> mugzie: you wanted w32codecs, right?
[09:01] <Spec> Samuli^ yes, #ubuntu+1
[09:01] <gnomefreak> wait this isnt gonna work
[09:01] <jleino> _jason: I made a link to the place where the mount poins is going to be. Nautilus complaints that the link is broken, well it is until automounter makes its work:)
[09:01] <Samuli^> Spec, thanks.
[09:01] <Spec> how did ubugtu kick kbrooks?
[09:01] <farruinn> kbrooks said right with many t's
[09:01] <skwid_> hum, my flash player in mozilla doesn't have sound
[09:01] <skwid_> any idea ?
[09:01] <r0xoR> Spec, by magic
[09:02] <Spec> farruinn: rightttttttttttt
[09:02] <_jason> jleino: what is automounter exactly?
[09:02] <Spec> phew :p
[09:02] <mugzie> also is firefox the only web browser or are there like faster ones cause for some reason this is slow
[09:02] <marcello> Guys I have problems with my keyboard in Ubuntu. I can't use " acentos"  in ubuntu
[09:02] <gnomefreak> Spec: he used too many of the same letters
[09:02] <jleino> _jason: autofs I guess.
[09:02] <Tonren> mugzie: there's also Epiphany, I hear
[09:02] <farruinn> Spec: must not have had enough t's that time :)
[09:02] <Spec> mugzie: and konqueror, but that sucks compared to firefox
[09:02] <mugzie> o ok
[09:02] <Spec> farruinn: not trying to test any more ts :p
[09:02] <gnomefreak> i hate this term doesnt scroll :(
[09:02] <Samuli^> jleino, have you tried adding the partitions and mount points in fstab so it would mount them at startup?
[09:02] <Spec> screen?
[09:02] <Samuli^> jleino, or is that something you don't want to do.
[09:03] <r0xoR> mugzie, get Firefox 1.5
[09:03] <r0xoR> mugzie, it's wicked fast
[09:03] <_jason> jleino: ah I see, thought you were doing something else... don't have much experience with that
[09:03] <r0xoR> mugzie, the one that comes with breezy is slowwww
[09:03] <NoUse> mugzie try running it from a console with "DISABLE_PANGO=1 firefox"
[09:03] <kbrooks> r0xoR: ...
[09:03] <mugzie> i have it i just dont know how to install it :(
[09:03] <Samuli^> r0xoR, lol, it isn't :)
[09:03] <Tonren> NoUse, what's Pango?
[09:03] <kbrooks> r0xoR: you dont need to instill hype
[09:03] <r0xoR> ?
[09:03] <Samuli^> but it's faster than what comes it breezy for sure.
[09:03] <r0xoR> not hype
[09:03] <jleino> Samuli^: Yep. I would prefer autofs, but I guess I'll have to stick with fstab unless someone suggest a solution for me.
[09:03] <NoUse> Tonren a rendering engine that has a bug that slows down firefox
[09:03] <r0xoR> on my box
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Tonren: pango is a library for gkt+2 apps
[09:03] <kbrooks> r0xoR: "YMMV"
[09:03] <jleino> _jason: Thanks anyway!
[09:03] <mugzie> can someone help me setup my firefox i got 1.5 but i dont know how to install it
[09:03] <Tonren> NoUse: jeez.  who needs GKT on the web?
[09:04] <untung> hi, how to install realplayer in ubuntu?
[09:04] <kbrooks> Tonren: GTK*
[09:04] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[09:04] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell untung about realplayer
[09:04] <NoUse> Tonren its not for the web, its for rendering the page
[09:04] <gnomefreak> mugzie: start there ^^^
[09:04] <kbrooks> Tonren: he misspelled
[09:04] <Tonren> kbrooks: weren't you kicked out a second ago?  ;P
[09:04] <marcello> Guys I have problems with my keyboard in Ubuntu. I can't use " acentos"  in ubuntu
[09:04] <Samuli^> untung, check wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:04] <farruinn> I remember reading that disabling IPv6 in firefox can make it faster too, true?
[09:04] <kbrooks> Tonren: please.
[09:04] <Samuli^> most of the stuff is told there.
[09:04] <kbrooks> Tonren: drop it
[09:04] <Tonren> kbrooks: I did too.  I hope I know how to spell GTK... I spent the last week getting the GTK-Radiant builder working for the quake 3 source
[09:05] <Tonren> kbrooks: i was just poking fun.  sorry.  ;P
[09:05] <mugzie> ok wait someone help me i get stuck on the part after downloading
[09:05] <kbrooks> mugzie: what part?
[09:05] <andreasc89> can I pause the "Upgrading to Ubuntu "Dapper" 6.06"
[09:05] <andreasc89> ?
[09:05] <gnomefreak> mugzie: run the commands as they are typed
[09:05] <Tonren> NoUse: Oh, I get it.  my only experience with GTK was with 3D graphics.  I was thinking, "that's overkill..."  hehe
[09:05] <NoUse> Tonren all Gnome apps use GTK
[09:06] <kbrooks> andreasc89: No. it's nonpausable
[09:06] <gnomefreak> iirc tar -C is the command after download
[09:06] <andreasc89> but shit
[09:06] <Tonren> I see
[09:06] <noirequus> ar andreasc89 language
[09:06] <kbrooks> andreasc89: language
[09:06] <andreasc89> sorry
[09:06] <farruinn> andreasc89: if you did it from the command line you could ctrl-c while it was downloading, but once it's starts installing and configuring packages it's best not to interrupt things
[09:06] <kbrooks> farruinn: GUI
[09:06] <mugzie> someone link me to the wiki again for firefox
[09:07] <NoUse> !tell mugzie about ff1.5
[09:07] <andreasc89> I really need to access my other partion
[09:07] <martin__> #ubuntu-es
[09:07] <andreasc89> have a really large project that must be ready until tomorow
[09:07] <andreasc89> wth, I interrupt it
[09:07] <kbrooks> andreasc89: Language is not an attention grabber
[09:07] <andreasc89> goos bye and thx for your help
[09:07] <Samuli^> andreasc89, can't you just mount the other partition?
[09:08] <andreasc89> yes I can
[09:08] <LinuxJones> Anbody with an iriver t30, apparently the US version won't work as a usb mass storage device :(
[09:08] <andreasc89> but when I try to access it it says
[09:08] <andreasc89> "you have not enough permissions" or something like that
[09:08] <kbrooks> andreasc89: mount /dev/foo /path/to/mount/point
[09:08] <holli> hi
[09:08] <gnomefreak> andreasc89: use sudo
[09:08] <holli> i have an big problem with cups and dapper
[09:08] <andreasc89> ok
[09:08] <holli> its totally broken
[09:08] <andreasc89> thx
[09:08] <Samuli^> andreas, or try gksudo nautilus in terminal.
[09:08] <kbrooks> holli: it's not.
[09:08] <_jason> holli: dapper questions should go to #ubuntu+1 please
[09:09] <Samuli^> if you prefer gui.
[09:09] <holli> E [11/May/2006:23:10:05 +0200]  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[09:09] <kbrooks> holli: remove the printer and readd it
[09:09] <holli> all tried
[09:09] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone tell me how to upgrade from ubuntu hedgeog to breezy?i have already gone to the site and there is only upgrades by cd
[09:09] <kbrooks> holli: it should work then
[09:09] <yipe> is there an ubuntu room specifically for advocacy on freenodes?
[09:09] <holli> only way to add is kcontrol
[09:09] <mugzie> which is better for a slow system ice or xubuntu?
[09:09] <NoUse> !tell chaos_of_apocaly about upgrade
[09:09] <holli> web ui let me dont make changes
[09:09] <kbrooks> mugzie: XFCE is good
[09:09] <_jason> yipe: the marketing channel, maybe #ubuntu-marketing?
[09:09] <r0xoR> mugzie, depends on how slow
[09:09] <holli> tell me how to fix
[09:09] <mugzie> 64mb oentium 3
[09:10] <mugzie> very slow
[09:10] <r0xoR> mugzie, if you're looking for nothing but sheer speed check out OpenBox
[09:10] <untung> Well, ubotou get distracted, any one know how to setup realplayer
[09:10] <r0xoR> mugzie, or perhaps twm
[09:10] <chaos_of_apocaly> whats best ?breezy or dapper
[09:10] <chaos_of_apocaly> ?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> xfce has to work on the terminal a bit other than that its great
[09:10] <Samuli^> untung, check wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:10] <NoUse> chaos_of_apocaly dapper will be released in two weeks
[09:10] <mugzie> im running on this right now xfce
[09:10] <kbrooks> chaos_of_apocaly: wait for dapper
[09:10] <Napoleon> chaos_of_apocaly: if you have to asc, probably breezy
[09:10] <r0xoR> mugzie, twm isn't pretty but it works... OpenBox has decent looking themes and some decent apps with it makes for a decent desktop
[09:10] <untung> i have downloaded the package realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[09:10] <Napoleon> ask*
[09:10] <farruinn> holli: you'll have much more luck asking in #ubuntu+1
[09:10] <Samuli^> or search www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:10] <jan_> wowh
[09:11] <r0xoR> mugzie, XFCE runs fast so long as you don't load up a bazillion panel plugins etc
[09:11] <jan_> many people here !!!!!!!!!
[09:11] <chaos_of_apocaly> im must be root to upgrade?
[09:11] <kbrooks> Napoleon: he should wait for dapper
[09:11] <Samuli^> chaos, use sudo.
[09:11] <kbrooks> chaos_of_apocaly:
[09:11] <untung> when i unpacked it i got error
[09:11] <mugzie> roxor how do i config it to run fast?
[09:11] <Mystery47> Dapper is best :)
[09:11] <kbrooks> !upgrade
[09:11] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:11] <andreasc89> now I mounted it
[09:11] <gnomefreak> untung: you dont unpack a deb you install it
[09:11] <kbrooks> Mystery47: BUT ITS UNSTABLE
[09:11] <mpmc> Anyone here use banshee?
[09:11] <mugzie> cause i wanna use it for instant messaging and just web browsing
[09:11] <kbrooks> Mystery47: now define "best"
[09:11] <Mystery47> nah.....work very nice...:)
[09:11] <untung> Need to get 0B/446kB of archives.
[09:11] <untung> After unpacking 1077kB of additional disk space will be used.
[09:11] <untung> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? Y] 
[09:11] <untung> Abort.
[09:11] <Mystery47> better every day
[09:12] <kbrooks> Mystery47: irrevelant
[09:12] <chaos_of_apocaly> i just reinstalled ubuntu and in setup they dont ask me for a root account or password!!
[09:12] <andreasc89> and when I try to access the folder it says: "The folder content can not be displayed. - You do not have the permissions necessary to view the vontents of "windows"."
[09:12] <gnomefreak> untung: lower case y
[09:12] <kbrooks> chaos_of_apocaly: you use sudo.
[09:12] <NoUse> !tell chaos_of_apocaly about root
[09:12] <Samuli^> chaos, that's because ubuntu uses sudo instead.
[09:12] <andreasc89> what is wront with it?
[09:12] <mugzie> so roxor can u explain to me how would i make thhis faster just for im and web browsing
[09:12] <untung> i tried that it keep aborting
[09:12] <crazy_penguin> i install from scratch ubuntu breezy and it seems that everything that needs root permission to run is not working. i get "unable to run ... you need root permission to run", also sudo doesn't work. any suggestion, please i'm in dark here.
[09:12] <Samuli^> andreasc89, in terminal type gksudo nautilus.
[09:12] <mabus_> crazy_penguin: did you do an expert install?
[09:13] <gnomefreak> untung: what is the command you are using?
[09:13] <web_reaver> ok ok ok im bored with ubuntu help me get unbored with it
[09:13] <crazy_penguin> yes
[09:13] <r0xoR> so Dapper == unstable right? or Dapper == testing?
[09:13] <crazy_penguin> mabus_: yes
[09:13] <gnomefreak> r0xoR: testing
[09:13] <mabus_> crazy_penguin: then you set a root password
[09:13] <kbrooks> r0xoR: both
[09:13] <Samuli^> r0x0r, it's pretty stable for me.
[09:13] <gnomefreak> dapper = development
[09:13] <r0xoR> ok
[09:13] <r0xoR> right
[09:13] <crazy_penguin> mabus_: but that also doesn't work. i tried it
[09:13] <chaos_of_apocaly> but when i go in the terminal to log on as root the password is incorrect but i didnt put any password as they didint ask for one
[09:13] <r0xoR> how often does ubuntu release?
[09:13] <web_reaver> HELP IM BORED WITH UBUNTU WHAT CAN I DO TO GET UNBORED WITH IT WHAT CAN I DO WITH UBUNTU
[09:13] <mabus_> crazy_penguin: right? If you remember it, just type su to login as root. Add your normal user account to the /etc/sudoers file
[09:13] <gnomefreak> 6 months r0xoR
[09:14] <azurehuesofblue> does anyone in here use myspace?
[09:14] <andreasc89> Thanks SO much, now it works
[09:14] <Samuli^> dapper's not far from release, so one would think it's pretty stable already.
[09:14] <kbrooks> r0bby: between 6 and 8 months
[09:14] <NoUse> !tell web_reaver about shouting
[09:14] <gnomefreak> web_reaver: drop the caps
[09:14] <mugzie> anyone? know what program or what to do to make this just fast for web browsing and instant messaging  im running linux on my old laptop its a extra comp for when my family on my dessktop its a p3 64mb anyone know what i can do
[09:14] <Mystery47> i just cant wait for final release....bec this is eye candy allready....:)
[09:14] <Spec> chaos_of_apocaly: don't log in as root.
[09:14] <NoUse> !tell web_reaver about shout
[09:14] <crazy_penguin> ok
[09:14] <crazy_penguin> i will try. thx mabus_
[09:14] <r0xoR> mugzie, lynx is fast :)
[09:14] <mabus_> crazy_penguin: the password for sudo is your user password, but it only works if that user is a sudoer. the password for su is your root password.
[09:14] <Samuli^> andreasc89, remember if the file system is NTFS you can't write to it.
[09:14] <shizz> can someone help me?
[09:14] <kbrooks> web_reaver: do you have any camera?
[09:14] <web_reaver> sorry about the caps
[09:14] <r0xoR> mugzie, the new opera is really fast too
[09:14] <chaos_of_apocaly> well i cant!it says the password is incorrect
[09:14] <Samuli^> so you better copy the files to ext3 and edit there.
[09:14] <kbrooks> web_reaver: a digital camera, for instance
[09:14] <Spec> mugzie: don't use gnome, try using a different window manager that's lighter
[09:14] <mugzie> i just need something cause this drags a lot
[09:15] <web_reaver> yah
[09:15] <kbrooks> web_reaver: with a floppy disk
[09:15] <web_reaver> no
[09:15] <andreasc89> Samuli^, yeah, but I only have to get a file from it
[09:15] <azurehuesofblue> u guys use myspace? how do u handle embeded flash player stuff?
[09:15] <kbrooks> web_reaver: with a cable?
[09:15] <Spec> mugzie: if you're comfortable with CLI, you could use links2 and naim (commandline messenging client)
[09:15] <web_reaver> yeah
[09:15] <mabus_> chaos_of_apocaly: read this
[09:15] <andreasc89> is it any way that I can read a Publisher file in linux?
[09:15] <Samuli^> adreasc89, sweet.
[09:15] <mabus_> !rootsudo
[09:15] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:15] <andreasc89> microsoft office
[09:15] <kbrooks> web_reaver: ok, connect the cable to the computer
[09:15] <web_reaver> it is
[09:15] <chaos_of_apocaly> where?
[09:15] <mugzie> um im using right now xfce but i think i need lighter im new to linux so any help would be great
[09:16] <apple|laptop> what is gtkmm put as?
[09:16] <kbrooks> web_reaver: and to th  camera?
[09:16] <apple|laptop> I tried apt-get install gtkmm and libgtkmm
[09:16] <apple|laptop> neither worked
[09:16] <mpmc> I'm using banshee (the media player) Can someone tell me How I get the last.fm function/plugin working (please)
[09:16] <Spec> mugzie: I don't know if Ubuntu supports icewm, but that's really light...
[09:16] <Samuli^> it does support it.
[09:16] <Samuli^> as in wm anyways.
[09:16] <mugzie> ok how would i access it can someone help
[09:16] <Spec> yeap
[09:16] <holli> hm...
[09:16] <andreasc89> is it any shortcut to view the desktop?
[09:16] <Spec> !icewm
[09:16] <ubotu> Spec: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:16] <azurehuesofblue> can someone at least tell me if easyubuntu is safe to use at the moment?
[09:16] <crimsun> it's community-supported, if that's what you're asking
[09:16] <holli> no help in #ubuntu+1
[09:17] <crimsun> !info icewm dapper
[09:17] <ubotu> icewm: (wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.23-3ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 629 kB, Installed size: 1632 kB
[09:17] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: fior?
[09:17] <web_reaver> the battroiys are dead kbrooks
[09:17] <andreasc89> like 'windows + M' in windows xp
[09:17] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: safe to use for what?
[09:17] <web_reaver> hold on
[09:17] <haffe> Hello. Is anyone here runnint ubuntu with a Fortissimo IV (ice1724). I seem to have lost dmix on it.
[09:17] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: ubuntu breezy? yes
[09:17] <azurehuesofblue> for making the embedded flashplayer work on myspace.
[09:17] <crimsun> haffe: in dapper or breezy?
[09:17] <Spec> winkey+m minmizes all the windows
[09:17] <haffe> crimsun: dapper.
[09:17] <mugzie> so how would i install ice?
[09:17] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: er, what embedded flash?
[09:17] <Spec> via synaptic
[09:17] <azurehuesofblue> in breezy kbrooks
[09:17] <shizz> i am writting a script in Bash and im trying to write to a tcp socket with a statement like  exec 3<> /dev/tcp/localhost/8080 but i got an error. I then looked to see if /dev/tcp even existed. it appears that /dev/tcp doesnt exist om my machine. can anyone tell me the device to use to open a rw connection to a socket in bash
[09:17] <crimsun> haffe: #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <mugzie> ok let me look for it
[09:18] <andreasc89> the problem is... I don't have any winkey on this laptop
[09:18] <Samuli^> mugzie, sudo apt-get install icewm?
[09:18] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: it works there. please ask in #easyubuntu
[09:18] <mugzie> samuli u sure
[09:18] <Samuli^> and after that probably icewm in terminal or something to the effect of that.
[09:18] <azurehuesofblue> yeah there is this really weird flash player in myspace.
[09:18] <web_reaver> ok kbrooks the cam is hooked up
[09:18] <Samuli^> mugzie, you could try that or check the www.ubuntuforums.org and do a search there.
[09:18] <azurehuesofblue> alright I will thanks anyways.
[09:18] <shizz> hello
[09:19] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: how don't you think itss "safe" to use?
[09:19] <mugzie> ok thanks imma try synatic
[09:19] <kbrooks> web_reaver: did anything popup?
[09:19] <web_reaver> i thing to import the pics
[09:19] <azurehuesofblue> well, it seemsed to mess up my system last ime.
[09:19] <chaos_of_apocaly> how do i put windwos and linux in the same box?i have to particonate wiht windows installer?
[09:19] <shizz> hello hello hello hello hello
[09:19] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: how did it?
[09:19] <Samuli^> mugzie, yeah. it's the same as apt-get in terminal.
[09:19] <shizz> hello hello hello hello hello
[09:19] <shizz> hello hello hello hello hello
[09:19] <mugzie> o ok
[09:19] <NoUse> shizz sto pit
[09:19] <eggzeck> shizz, I don't understand why would you do that?
[09:20] <shizz> do what?
[09:20] <shizz> write to a socket
[09:20] <azurehuesofblue> like... when I went to sudo update it ask for this tieh file or something then gave a 404 error
[09:20] <kbrooks> shizz: flood
[09:20] <NoUse> shizz if you ask a question, we'll try to answer it
[09:20] <mugzie> and then after its installed i just access it through login right?
[09:20] <farruinn> shizz: spam
[09:20] <chaos_of_apocaly> how do i put windwos and linux in the same box?i have to particonate wiht windows installer?
[09:20] <shizz> well
[09:20] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: that didnt mess up for your system
[09:20] <azurehuesofblue> I believe it was related to a media player... I was thinking nicotine.
[09:20] <azurehuesofblue> but it wasn't nicotine
[09:20] <shizz> no i at least no that someone is paying attention
[09:20] <Samuli^> mugzie, probably, but not sure if you need to take some extra steps
[09:20] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: it DOES NOT overwite your sources.list
[09:20] <azurehuesofblue> I think it was some crappy player.
[09:20] <farruinn> chaos_of_apocaly: there's a windowshowto on the wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:20] <shizz> now
[09:21] <NoUse> shizz do it again and you'll get kicked out, and then no more attention
[09:21] <azurehuesofblue> I went into my sources.list and deleted it.
[09:21] <gnomefreak> shizz: dont spam at all in here
[09:21] <shizz> lol
[09:21] <Samuli^> you could just fire it up in the terminal to test it anyways.. something like 'icewm' should do it.
[09:21] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: what sources.list?
[09:21] <azurehuesofblue> I gues I just havn'e quite connected all the dots lol
[09:21] <andreasc89> is dapper stable enough to use now?
[09:21] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: be in #easyubuntu
[09:21] <kbrooks> andreasc89: development
[09:21] <eggzeck> andreasc89, yes, seems like it
[09:21] <farruinn> shizz: perhaps they're paying you attention, but that doesn't mean they'll want to help you now
[09:21] <azurehuesofblue> k sorry yall.
[09:21] <Samuli^> azurehuesoofblue, why in the hell did you do that?
[09:21] <eggzeck> andreasc89, but don't do it if you're on a production system
[09:21] <azurehuesofblue> sorry
[09:22] <Spec> andreasc89: I've been using it for months
[09:22] <shizz> thats why i so called flooded
[09:22] <rulz1985> which is the latest version of ubuntu??
[09:22] <polpak> anyone here use emacs?
[09:22] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: i'm a EU developer
[09:22] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: please be in there now
[09:22] <web_reaver> what games can i get for ubuntu
[09:22] <kbrooks> azurehuesofblue: thanks
[09:22] <web_reaver> where can i get games
[09:22] <shizz> whatever ill just come back later
[09:22] <polpak> rulz1985, breezy (5.10) is the latest release version
[09:22] <eggzeck> !games
[09:22] <andreasc89> I just try to learn linux
[09:22] <ubotu> I heard games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[09:22] <Samuli^> rulz1985, breezy is newest stable and dapper is on it's way shortly.
[09:22] <andreasc89> not to use it for any useful stuffs
[09:22] <rulz1985> thanx
[09:22] <andreasc89> but hopefully I will do that in the future
[09:22] <andreasc89> so that's not a problem
[09:22] <eggzeck> web_reaver, see those links ubotu gave
[09:23] <Wyred> got the Gnome version of ubuntu, where can I get the KDE ?
[09:23] <Mystery47> Games: True combat elite
[09:23] <Wyred> to use both ?
[09:23] <Mystery47> Games: Enemy territory
[09:23] <gnomefreak> Wyred: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <polpak> I'm trying to change how the alt and windows keys behave in gnome (I want the windows key to do things related to the window manager and just leave alt alone
[09:23] <Samuli^> wyred, just type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in terminal and enjoy.
[09:23] <Mystery47> Games: Enemy territory fortress
[09:23] <gnomefreak> Wyred: yes you can choose what one to boot into on login screen
[09:23] <Samuli^> or use synaptic and search for kubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <polpak> because I need alt for emacs in a gnome terminal.. Anyone have any helpful hints?
[09:23] <Wyred> thanx gnomefreak Samuli^
[09:24] <Wyred> used to YUM not apt
[09:24] <Wyred> lol
[09:24] <gnomefreak> yuck yum
[09:24] <Samuli^> wyred, and if you want to get rid of it later don't break the dependencies on meta-package kubuntu-desktop.
[09:24] <farruinn> polpak: use vim? (sorry *ducks*)
[09:24] <Samuli^> that way you can just use apt-get to remove the whole lot of it.
[09:25] <Wyred> k thanks
[09:25] <eggzeck> apt > *
[09:25] <mugzie> brb
[09:25] <eggzeck> vim > *
[09:25] <Chri[s] > how do you run teamspeak from console
[09:25] <roryy> polpak: ESC is an alternative for alt. bit yucky, but oh well.
[09:25] <andreasc89> how do I change the permissions?
[09:25] <andreasc89> for a folder
[09:25] <polpak> roryy, if I did that I may as well go back to vim...
[09:25] <Samuli^> with chmod.
[09:25] <eggzeck> Chri[s] , I wouldn't know, I don't use teamspeak, but try the name of the program itself
[09:25] <farruinn> andreasc89: chmod
[09:25] <Samuli^> type man chmod in terminal.
[09:25] <polpak> roryy, I don't want to use escape in my editor, cause it requires moving my hands off the home keys
[09:26] <[n3t0] > im download de dapper .iso but when i try install he dont pass on de cd check
[09:26] <[n3t0] > i make the download 4th
[09:26] <andreasc89> it says "Your'e not the owner so you can't change these permissions"
[09:26] <polpak> [n3t0] , did you check the md5sum on the .iso file?
[09:26] <eggzeck> Chri[s] , most of the time you can launch programs by just typing its name in terminal and hitting enter
[09:26] <roryy> polpak: i think stuff like 'alt-tab' is grabbed at window manager level -- maybe that's where one should look
[09:26] <Samuli^> andreas, did you use sudo in front?
[09:26] <[n3t0] > polpak, yes
[09:26] <andreasc89> file:///home/andreasc89/windows/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrat%94r/Skrivbord/Skolarbete/Desktopp/SKITVIKTIG%20SLUTUPPGIFT/Folder.pub
[09:26] <polpak> roryy, I know.. but I don't know where to go to look for it
[09:27] <andreasc89> andreasc89@ubuntu:~$ chmod
[09:27] <andreasc89> chmod: too few arguments
[09:27] <andreasc89> it says
[09:27] <eggzeck> andreasc89, what do you want to do with 'chmod'
[09:27] <Samuli^> type man chmod.
[09:27] <andreasc89> change folder premissions
[09:27] <sneex> I installed the gcc 4.0 with apt-get but I still cannot compile programs
[09:27] <osotogari> 'lo all. Can anyone help me with setting up Firestarter and Samba?
[09:27] <andreasc89> so I can write to the folder
[09:27] <eggzeck> andreasc89, chmod 777 folder
[09:27] <polpak> sneex, use install build-essential
[09:27] <Samuli^> sneex, you have buld-essential?
[09:27] <sneex> doh
[09:27] <farruinn> andreasc89: read 'man chmod', but I don't think you want to use it in your windows partition anyway.
[09:28] <eggzeck> andreasc89, type: 'man chmod' to learn more
[09:28] <sneex> lol ty polpak
[09:28] <web_reaver> ok i just downloaded a thing off the net its zip file how do i install it
[09:28] <polpak> sneex, I mean just install build-essential
[09:28] <andreasc89> andreasc89@ubuntu:~$ chmod 777 /home/andreasc89/sandisk
[09:28] <andreasc89> chmod: changing permissions of `/home/andreasc89/sandisk': Operation not permitted
[09:28] <andreasc89> what's wrong?
[09:28] <Samuli^> use the sudo :)
[09:29] <eggzeck> andreasc89, sudo chmod 777 folder
[09:29] <mugzie> ok ice is fast but i dont have a tool bar
[09:29] <Samuli^> or if it's a NTFS partition you can't write to it in linux.
[09:29] <Samuli^> mugzie, ain't that sweet?
[09:29] <roryy> polpak: this is a guess: you can try fiddling in gconf with /apps/metacity/global_keybindings
[09:30] <mugzie> yea its fast but how do i get a tollbar like for i can minimize and stuff
[09:30] <andreasc89> done that and wrote my password
[09:30] <andreasc89> but I still can't write to it
[09:30] <Samuli^> use alt+tab and right mouse button instead.
[09:30] <mugzie> it doesnt even hace gaim
[09:30] <Wyred> Samuli^, so sudo apt-get xmms will work as well ?
[09:30] <eggzeck> Wyred, yes
[09:30] <Samuli^> Wyred, add install and it will.
[09:30] <blind> ew xmms.
[09:30] <eggzeck> Wyred, sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:31] <web_reaver> can some one help me install somthing
[09:31] <eggzeck> web_reaver, we can try if you ask
[09:31] [lilo(i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)]  I set you up a cloak, 'ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog', per Seveas; let me know if there's any problem with that....and please be sure to go through the check list on http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup to make sure it shows up consistently 
[09:31] <Wyred> and the codecs?
[09:31] <elliot_> Is there anyone who has ubuntu live booting on an indigo imac?
[09:31] <web_reaver> i downloaded a zipfile how do i install it
[09:31] <Samuli^> Wyred, you have to add some repositories for that
[09:31] <eggzeck> Wyred, xmms plays mp3 with no extra necessay installs
[09:31] <sneex> gcc Card.cpp -o Card
[09:31] <osotogari> 'lo all. Can anyone help me with setting up Firestarter and Samba?
[09:31] <mugzie> brb
[09:31] <Samuli^> after that it's just apt-get install w32codecs.
[09:31] <sneex> lol  That generated a ton of errors -- Thanks peeps =)
[09:32] <Chri[s] > eggzeck, its "TeamSpeak" for future reference
[09:32] <eggzeck> web_reaver, you can't install a zip file, but you can unzip it
[09:32] <Samuli^> sneex, read the README of the prog you're trying to compile.
[09:32] <eggzeck> Chri[s] , thank you
[09:32] <sneex> lol
[09:32] <web_reaver> oh ok
[09:32] <farruinn> web_reaver: unzip file.zip
[09:32] <eggzeck> web_reaver, unzip file
[09:32] <sneex> Samuli^: its a Windows GoFish program -- I want it to work on Ubuntu
[09:32] <Samuli^> huh..
[09:33] <sneex> Ill figure it out
[09:33] <sneex> thanks =)
[09:33] <blind> sneex: wine?
[09:33] <blind> oh, he left.
[09:33] <Samuli^> hehe, yeah :)
[09:33] <Samuli^> I was just about to say 'wine' too.
[09:33] <Samuli^> but good luck for him trying to compile a windows prog.
[09:34] <Hash9> Hi, is it possible to select which packages you want to install at install time?
[09:34] <eggzeck> That takes a lot of knowledge, or a lot of documentation reading
[09:35] <eggzeck> Hash9, yes, install as 'expert'
[09:35] <web_reaver> ok i unziped it now how do i install the files i just un ziped
[09:35] <osotogari> whats installed if i do a server install?
[09:35] <eggzeck> web_reaver, depends on what was unzipped, a *.deb or something you have to compile/build yourself?
[09:35] <eggzeck> osotogari, only the base system
[09:36] <eggzeck> osotogari, so you'll basically not have any GUI
[09:36] <osotogari> no GUI? Ok, i can dig that :)
[09:36] <itrebal> is there a package for win32 codecs? how about mplayer?
[09:36] <web_reaver> its a full list of stuff like  dlls and bins and cfgs and alot of folders
[09:36] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[09:36] <batoms> is there anyway to create a /etc/bash_completion file from gnome file associations
[09:36] <gnomefreak> !+w32condecs
[09:36] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[09:36] <eggzeck> web_reaver, dlls are not for linux heh
[09:36] <farruinn> web_reaver: that sounds like a windows program...
[09:36] <gnomefreak> !+ w32codecs
[09:36] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install. To use w32codecs on a 64-bit system, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[09:37] <web_reaver> it said it was for linux
[09:37] <osotogari> Trying to set up a file server here at home so I was wondering should i go down that route or just do a "normal" install, the machine is an old 800Mhz AMD with 256 MB RAM
[09:37] <farruinn> web_reaver: what is this and where did you download it?
[09:37] <eggzeck> web_reaver, perhaps you downloaded the wrong *.zip file?
[09:37] <gnomefreak> web_reaver: dlls wont run on linux
[09:38] <eggzeck> damn peers
[09:38] <web_reaver> it said it was a linux files
[09:38] <eggzeck> web_reaver, well we're not lying to you :), unless it can be run with wine
[09:38] <gnomefreak> web_reaver: what is the program/app you are working with?
[09:39] <eggzeck> web_reaver, if it is meant to be used with wine, then get wine
[09:39] <Khamael> is there an e17 repo for ubuntu?
[09:39] <web_reaver> its Eternal Lands
[09:39] <SeanX> Anyone else having some trouble connecting to the update repositories right now?
[09:39] <eggzeck> web_reaver, sudo apt-get install wine
[09:39] <Samuli^> khamael, e17 is in the multiverse I think.
[09:39] <eggzeck> ubotu tell web_reaver about wine
[09:39] <MetaMorfoziS> why i can't play dvd with kaffeine? It said: Can't read data from dvd
[09:40] <farruinn> Samuli^: e17 is in the repos now?
[09:40] <web_reaver> what does this mean Download the zip file, and unzip it.
[09:40] <web_reaver> cd to the directory where you installed it.
[09:40] <web_reaver> chmod to 775 and execute el.x86.linux.bin
[09:40] <web_reaver> edit el.ini and change datadir to where you unzip everything
[09:40] <web_reaver> Also, the zip file has no base directory, so you should unzip it in a new directory you create.
[09:40] <eggzeck> web_reaver, see what ubotu told you
[09:40] <Samuli^> farruin, been for a while me thinks.
[09:40] <MetaMorfoziS> or any better idea to play dvd?
[09:40] <web_reaver> i have wine installed already
[09:40] <blind> run it through wine then
[09:40] <eggzeck> web_reaver, then learn how to use wine
[09:40] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: e17 is not in ubuntu you need a different 3rd party repo
[09:40] <Samuli^> thought it's better to compile from CVS, there's guides to do that in www.ubuntuforums.org.
[09:40] <echobinary> is anyone listening to NPR? (off topic) but its hells scarey
[09:40] <farruinn> Samuli^: apt-cache search doesn't show it, maybe you're thinking of e16?
[09:41] <eggzeck> web_reaver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine
[09:41] <Samuli^> gnomefreak, at least it used to be for a while.
[09:41] <eggzeck> oh well
[09:41] <farruinn> Khamael: search ubuntuforums.org, there's a howto posted somewhere there.
[09:41] <SeanX> so is that a no on anyone else having troubles with the repos right now?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: e17 was never included in ubuntu
[09:42] <mugzie> hey i got ice now with a tollbar rocks its fast also but it doesnt have gaim is  there a way i can add it?
[09:42] <farruinn> SeanX: I'm not, downloading a bunch of stuff right now
[09:42] <Samuli^> gnomefreak, come to think of it, I might've had some 3rd party repos in sources.list that time :P
[09:42] <SeanX> Hrm..  I can get stuff from security.ubuntu, but any other default repo just waits until timeout
[09:42] <osotogari> Trying to set up a file server here at home so I was wondering should i just install "server" or just do a "normal" install, the machine is an old 800Mhz AMD with 256 MB RAM
[09:42] <Samuli^> I stand corrected.
[09:43] <eggzeck> SeanX, try: sudo apt-get update
[09:43] <SeanX> thats what i'm talking about, Eggzeck
[09:43] <farruinn> osotogari: entirely up to you, I don't *think* "server" installs anything extra, just doesn't include the desktop stuff
[09:43] <Spenk> hi to all
[09:43] <blind> hey spenk
[09:43] <de1> Is it normal that I can't install to a raid array or manually tell the installer to use /dev/md2 on either Flight7 or Beta2?
[09:43] <eggzeck> SeanX, I thought you meant while downloading
[09:43] <farruinn> SeanX: are you getting a specific error or just can't contact the server?
[09:43] <eggzeck> SeanX, I thought you meant while downloading as in 'apt-get install'
[09:43] <gnomefreak> de1: i would ask that in #ubuntu+1
[09:44] <Ayabara> can you recommend a good file manager for linux, like total commander for windows?
[09:44] <SeanX> no, trying to get the updated lists
[09:44] <osotogari> would the machine be able to handle Gnome desktop though with only 800 MHz processor and 256 RAM?
[09:44] <eggzeck> ahh
[09:44] <Samuli^> SeanX, check the sources.list and try taking any country code off in front of "archive.ubuntu"
[09:44] <SeanX> I didn't say anything about downloading.. just connecting
[09:44] <Samuli^> osotogari, I think so.
[09:44] <eggzeck> SeanX, make sure your sources.list is correct and fine
[09:44] <HIGH-FREQ> !pcmcia
[09:44] <ubotu> HIGH-FREQ: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:44] <eggzeck> I like ubotu
[09:44] <eggzeck> haha
[09:44] <fepede> Hi ! anyone here using ubuntu on sparc ?
[09:44] <Samuli^> osotogari, and if it's slow try some other window manager.
[09:44] <SeanX> My lists are all fine.. Everythings' worked on this for months until about 5 minutes ago..
[09:45] <farruinn> osotogari: I don't think it would bog down with that... gnome isn't that much of a resource hog
[09:45] <Spenk> i need the info from usn but now i must parsing the text on the source page. Ubuntu want to cooperate with OVAL ? in that way is more easy to manage the security
[09:45] <HIGH-FREQ> hmm..no help there ;(
[09:45] <SeanX> i think the canadian archive mirror is hosed
[09:45] <osotogari> Cool, I'll check it out so guys! Thanks!
[09:45] <Samuli^> SeanX, your servers are down then?
[09:45] <farruinn> SeanX: in that case an actual error message would be helpful
[09:45] <Samuli^> SeanX, just try some other countrys repos if you need something right now.
[09:45] <HIGH-FREQ> anyone know how to fully disable the onboard wireless (broadcom 4318) and utilize the pcmcia linksys wpc54gs  card
[09:45] <HIGH-FREQ> ?
[09:46] <SeanX> It doesn't give an error, farruinn.. just sits there, eventually goes "fail" and moves to the next one where it repeats..  working now that i'm going ot the main US mirror..
[09:46] <gnomefreak> HIGH-FREQ: can you do it in bios?
[09:46] <HIGH-FREQ> yes i did that
[09:46] <HIGH-FREQ> but seems to still enable it
[09:46] <HIGH-FREQ> for some reason
[09:46] <gnomefreak> HIGH-FREQ: unplug the cable from it
[09:47] <HIGH-FREQ> gnomefreak: its internal
[09:47] <Samuli^> wireless? :)
[09:47] <HIGH-FREQ> internal wireless
[09:47] <SeanX> I wasn't looking for troubleshooting, just confirmation from anyone else using the canadian mirrors..  thanks though :)
[09:47] <gnomefreak> HIGH-FREQ: oh yeah wireless
[09:47] <Samuli^> High-freq. have you checked your bios?
[09:47] <HIGH-FREQ> i want to fully disable it...and bios didn't seem to fully disable it
[09:47] <gnomefreak> HIGH-FREQ: call the manf. of the computer
[09:47] <Samuli^> ahh.
[09:47] <HIGH-FREQ> yes says disabled in bios
[09:47] <bakso> hello
[09:47] <bakso> how log all in window in irssi?
[09:47] <odyssey> what is pmcia services
[09:47] <mugzie> is there a way to download gmail and add it to ice?
[09:48] <Samuli^> SeanX, you should've said that in the first place man! :)
[09:48] <HIGH-FREQ> hmm
[09:48] <SeanX> I thought I did, Samuli :)
[09:48] <lachoss> hi
[09:48] <Samuli^> Ohh. Right :P
[09:48] <SeanX> when i asked "is anyone else having trouble connecting ... "
[09:48] <eggzeck> bakso, thisi snot irssi help, BUT: /set autolog on
[09:48] <lachoss> how can i compress a pdf? i've tried ps2pdf -dUseGrateCompression=true but it isn't enough.. thanks!
[09:48] <Samuli^> Didn't see that.
[09:48] <mugzie> anyone>
[09:48] <HIGH-FREQ> weird that it still detects even if its disabled in bios...so kernel's doesn't listen to the bios then?
[09:48] <SeanX> anyhoo.. working now.. i'll set them back to ca. some other time
[09:49] <bakso>  /set autolog on
[09:49] <farruinn> mugzie: download gmail?
[09:49] <blaze> can someone tell me how to fix mplayer
[09:49] <odyssey> hello
[09:49] <mugzie> yea
[09:49] <SeanX> blaze: can you tell me how it's broken
[09:49] <blaze> because it doesn't want to play the movies in full screen
[09:49] <eggzeck> bakso, yes, but not in here, dont do a / /
[09:49] <mugzie> how cAN i download it
[09:49] <blaze> when i choose the x11 driver
[09:49] <eggzeck> bakso, and go to #irssi
[09:49] <SeanX> try the xv driver
[09:49] <blaze> it playes perfectly, but it doesnt stretch to fullscreen
[09:49] <SeanX> or install sdl and use the sdl driver
[09:49] <Samuli^> btw, does anyone know where the archive.ubuntu.etc are located. I mean without any country suffix in front?
[09:49] <odyssey> can someone tell me what is pmci services
[09:49] <SeanX> Samuli^: US, I thought.
[09:50] <blaze> how to install sdl ?
[09:50] <mugzie> anyone know how i can install gmail or something
[09:50] <SeanX> blaze: sudo apt-get sdl
[09:50] <Samuli^> I get a lot faster downloads from the .archive than in fi.archive. funny thing.
[09:50] <SeanX> mugzie; gmail is a webpage, you can't install it
[09:50] <eggzeck> mugzie, do you mean: gmail-notify ?
[09:50] <blaze> i'll try.. sec. =)
[09:50] <mugzie> i mean gaim
[09:50] <mugzie> sorry
[09:50] <mugzie> gaim
[09:50] <Samuli^> And .fi is for finland, so not exactly close.
[09:50] <SeanX> sudo apt-get gaim
[09:50] <SeanX> er
[09:50] <HIGH-FREQ> sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:50] <eggzeck> mugzie, gaim is by default installed
[09:50] <SeanX> sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:50] <SeanX> sorry
[09:51] <eggzeck> gaim is by default installed guys
[09:51] <HIGH-FREQ> ya noticed that
[09:51] <HIGH-FREQ> dunno what install he has
[09:51] <mugzie> eggzeck not on icegm
[09:51] <blaze> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:51] <blaze> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:51] <farruinn> mugzie: if you had gaim in gnome you still have it. I don't know how you add stuff to the bars in icewm, but try right-clicking on stuff?
[09:51] <slackern> Samuli^, have you tried se. repos?
[09:51] <eggzeck> oh you have icegm, then tell us heh
[09:51] <mugzie> lol
[09:51] <mugzie> dorry
[09:51] <mugzie> sorry
[09:51] <farruinn> blaze: synaptic open? downloading something in another terminal?
[09:51] <mugzie> yea im trying to fix my ice gm
[09:51] <HIGH-FREQ> mugzie: maybe its not in list?  have u tried  locate gaim?  in console
[09:51] <blaze> no..
[09:52] <mugzie> no i havent
[09:52] <blaze> maby mplayer is open :)
[09:52] <gnomefreak> blaze: you eithe rhave synaptic open or updater or something using apt in console
[09:52] <mugzie> how can i do that high
[09:52] <HIGH-FREQ> not everything enters into the list
[09:52] <Samuli^> slackern, no. I get the like 500-600kB/s from the .archive.
[09:52] <newbie33> hey, Im in panic, I installed XP and GRUB has GONE :O  there are no signs about ubuntu? please help
[09:52] <HIGH-FREQ> load up console and type  locate gaim
[09:52] <blaze> oh.. synaptic is open :D
[09:52] <blaze> sry =)
[09:52] <slackern> Samuli^, ahh the se. archive is in Ume, i get 1000k/sec from it maybe you get it there too.
[09:52] <mugzie> i dont even see console
[09:52] <HIGH-FREQ> terminal
[09:52] <mugzie> o ok
[09:52] <HIGH-FREQ> where you type
[09:52] <Samuli^> slackern, I'll try that.
[09:53] <Samuli^> slackern, thanks.
[09:53] <slackern> Samuli^, Oh your welcome, hope it works well.
[09:53] <SeanX> newbie33: the XP install has clobbered your grub boot record.  boot off a livecd and rerun grub
[09:53] <blaze> E: Couldn't find package sdl
[09:53] <blaze> SeanX,
[09:53] <mugzie> ok im there high what do i type
[09:53] <gnomefreak> !info sdl
[09:53] <farruinn> blaze: apt-cache search is invaluable
[09:54] <SeanX> blze: you could search in synaptic for sdl.. it might be libsdl or sdl-sometihng..
[09:54] <gnomefreak> what is the name of the package blaze sdl alone is not a package
[09:54] <invisibleshadow> hey
[09:54] <blaze> ok, i'll try
[09:54] <invisibleshadow> can i get some help
[09:54] <HIGH-FREQ> mugzie: type   locate gaim
[09:54] <SeanX> Nope, we can't see you..
[09:54] <mwe> what program can you use to convert .wav files to mp3?
[09:54] <farruinn> !ask
[09:54] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[09:54] <newbie33> please help,I installed XP and GRUB has GONE :O  there are no signs about ubuntu?
[09:54] <SeanX> newbie33: i answered that
[09:54] <chantra> ji there
[09:55] <mugzie> nope cant find it
[09:55] <newbie33> oh
[09:55] <invisibleshadow> how do i make ubuntu recognize the sound card?
[09:55] <SeanX> newbie33: the XP install has clobbered your grub boot record.  boot off a livecd and rerun grub
[09:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell newbie33 about grub
[09:55] <chantra> I'm having trouble with cups
[09:55] <newbie33> Is it possible to make it without live?
[09:55] <HIGH-FREQ> newbie33: get livecd and chroot or whatever ubuntu calls it..and reinstall grub
[09:55] <blaze> gnomefreak, i was told to install sdl in order to watch movies in full screen
[09:55] <blaze> with mplayer
[09:55] <Spenk> byee
[09:55] <chantra> ?--------- ? ?      ?         ?                ? /var/log/cups/access_log
[09:55] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: take it to dinner?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> blaze: libsdl
[09:55] <invisibleshadow> what?
[09:55] <mugzie> so  since it didnt find it how can i dowload it
[09:55] <gnomefreak> blaze: there are a ton of them though
[09:55] <blaze> because at this stage i can watch movies with x11 but not in fullscreen
[09:55] <chantra> when I ls
[09:55] <SeanX> yeah, that.. sorry.. didn't know the whole name, blaze
[09:55] <blaze> ok :)
[09:55] <mugzie> also i dont think i have synatic
[09:56] <HIGH-FREQ> mugzie: ok type this in    sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:56] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: turn off you onboard sound card first
[09:56] <blaze> SeanX, no probs ;)
[09:56] <SeanX> then use the -vo sdl driver with mplayer
[09:56] <invisibleshadow> k
[09:56] <invisibleshadow> how
[09:56] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: what type of sound card is it?
[09:56] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: bios
[09:56] <blaze> and.. wich libsdl should i install :)
[09:56] <newbie33> Sence, I have install CD its not right?
[09:56] <blaze> ?
[09:56] <invisibleshadow> idk, i am a newbie
[09:56] <gnomefreak> blaze: thats up to you
[09:56] <chantra> when I apt-get dist-upgrade I get
[09:56] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: type in terminal lspci and paste the contents to pastebin please
[09:56] <blaze> .. =)
[09:57] <chantra> touch: cannot touch `/var/log/cups/access_log': Permission denied
[09:57] <SeanX> newbie33: you could probably do it with an install cd, if there's a recovery option in there,, i don't recall
[09:57] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[09:57] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:57] <gnomefreak> chantra: sudo touch
[09:57] <gnomefreak> chantra: or sudo apt-get
[09:57] <chantra> I'm root at the time I'm doing this gnomefreak
[09:57] <bewire> Hello, I have installed the AMD 64bit 5.10 release. Is there a channel for discussing problems with sound ? (no sound in tvtime, totem, kscd, etc... but the system sound is OK)
[09:57] <chantra> # apt-get -f install
[09:57] <mugzie> it says gaim is already the newest version but it doesnt locate it um im kinda confused now
[09:57] <chantra>  * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd touch: cannot touch `/var/log/cups/access_log': Permission denied
[09:57] <HIGH-FREQ> mugzie:  ok try typeing in    gaim
[09:57] <gnomefreak> ah that would be on dapper?
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. Mobile Memory Controller Hub (rev 04)
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. Mobile Memory Controller Hub PCI Express Port (rev 04)
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 04)
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 04)
[09:58] <chantra> yep
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 04)
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 04)
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 04)
[09:58] <mugzie> nothing happened
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 04)
[09:58] <aLPHa_LeaK> invisibleshadow, urgh!
[09:58] <Samuli^> holy shit man.
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d4)
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 04)
[09:58] <farruinn> mugzie: I've never used ice, but try right-clicking on your bar, see if you can add a launcher
[09:58] <invisibleshadow> 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev 04)
[09:58] <chantra> gnomefreak: is there a specific channel for dapper
[09:58] <mugzie> ok it loaded
[09:58] <gnomefreak> chantra: #ubuntu+1
[09:58] <farruinn> chantra: #ubuntu+1
[09:58] <aLPHa_LeaK> yeah.
[09:58] <chantra> cool, cheers
[09:58] <mugzie> how can u put it in my taskbar now?
[09:58] <ahmeni> Anyone fellow syrup-drinkin' puck slappers notice ca.archive.ubuntu.com acting up today?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: language please
[09:58] <HIGH-FREQ> mugzie: ok that means it's already installed.....now make a launcher for it
[09:58] <Samuli^> gnomefreak? :)
[09:59] <HIGH-FREQ> mugzie: i dunno...i've never used ice so good luck on that one....
[09:59] <gnomefreak> dont think i let him get to sound card :(
[09:59] <mugzie> high freq im new idk how to do that
[09:59] <gnomefreak> i told him pastebinand gave him address
[09:59] <iNiku> not that invisible :)
[09:59] <tarful> hey
[09:59] <newbie33> How to reache console from live CD
[09:59] <HIGH-FREQ> mugzie: me neither..hehe...look at hte icegm or icewm documentation..there's plenty of sites and find somethin bout "adding programs to the menu"
[10:00] <acid-trip> how do i reconfigure my x and find out what x i am using?
[10:00] <mugzie> ok
[10:00] <Samuli^> newbie33, can't you just use terminal?
[10:00] <haffe> newbie33: either alt+F2 and start gnome-console
[10:00] <farruinn> acid-trip: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[10:00] <haffe> or press ALT+CTRL+F2
[10:00] <HIGH-FREQ> newbie33: i think u load up live..then mount the root hd...then u can do grub config from there i think
[10:00] <newbie33> I see Paragon BootManager
[10:00] <mugzie> well its the same as ubuntu a lot how did u usually do it there
[10:00] <newbie33> dont know what to do
[10:00] <acid-trip> Package `xorg-xserver' is not installed and no info is available.
[10:01] <HIGH-FREQ> mugzie: no ice is a window manager right?  i'm using gnome
[10:01] <newbie33> Drive 0: primary 00 Win XP Fat32
[10:01] <newbie33> ant nothing more
[10:01] <Samuli^> gnome isn't a window manager.
[10:01] <mugzie> o ok
[10:01] <blind> desktop manager
[10:01] <Samuli^> in default gnome uses metacity as window manager.
[10:01] <HIGH-FREQ> ok...sorry..."desktop" manager ;)
[10:01] <Samuli^> but you can use other :P
[10:02] <invisibleshadow> ok, how do i make my sound card work?
[10:02] <mugzie> so does anyone know how i can add the gaim and all that to like my programs in my tollbar?
[10:02] <andreasc89> will all my files be deleted when I upgrade to dapper?
[10:02] <andreasc89> and all settings and so on?
[10:02] <Samuli^> mugzie, sorry man. You have to get some icewm-spesific help me thinks.
[10:03] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: i said paste the output in pastebin
[10:03] <gnomefreak> no in channel
[10:03] <Samuli^> adnreasc89, no.
[10:03] <invisibleshadow> where is that
[10:03] <gnomefreak> s/no/not
[10:03] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[10:03] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:03] <mugzie> ok man only if this thing was fast enough for something other then ice lol
[10:03] <mugzie> but o well good enough
[10:03] <Wyred> Samuli^, sorry to ask the same question again but what were the codecs name again for xmms?
[10:03] <Mystery47> i just use taking programs in menus with making link to desktop.....then dragging it to panel....
[10:03] <KenSentMe> what is a good program to watch tv on my ubuntu? I've seen MythTV, but i think that's a bit overkill, or not?
[10:03] <farruinn> mugzie: did you try xfce?
[10:04] <Samuli^> wyred, the codec-package is called w32codecs
[10:04] <Samuli^> and it's not xmms spesific.
[10:04] <mugzie> i did but it was still slower then ice
[10:04] <gnomefreak> !+w32codecs
[10:04] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install. To use w32codecs on a 64-bit system, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[10:04] <HIGH-FREQ> mugzie; check if there's a folder called  .icegm or .icewm
[10:04] <farruinn> mugzie: I also really like enlightenment, the default theme is ugly imo though
[10:04] <HIGH-FREQ> or whatever
[10:04] <Mystery47> just dragging program from menu to desktop....
[10:04] <Samuli^> enlightement is sweet!
[10:04] <mugzie> high freq do i type locate .icegm or somethig?
[10:05] <Samuli^> _and_ fast.
[10:05] <mugzie> for real
[10:05] <tarful> 'lo
[10:05] <invisibleshadow> ok
[10:05] <mugzie> is it good for my laptop
[10:05] <invisibleshadow> its under invisibleshadow
[10:05] <Samuli^> but really unstable.
[10:05] <HIGH-FREQ> no it shouls be in your homdire
[10:05] <mugzie> p3 64mb
[10:05] <farruinn> gnomefreak: why the "+" after "!"?
[10:05] <mugzie> what u mean unstable?
[10:05] <Samuli^> mugzie, you get a lot of odd errors and such.
[10:06] <mugzie> cause im on ice and i get no lag
[10:06] <gnomefreak> farruinn: its too long for channel so you use the !+ or it will msg you with it only
[10:06] <HIGH-FREQ> mugzie: in consol  type  cd   then press enter....  now type  ls -la     do u see any .icewm or .ice??  or whatever
[10:06] <farruinn> Samuli^: you mean e17 or e16? e16 is pretty stable
[10:06] <Samuli^> some things don't work at all and so on.
[10:06] <mugzie> and its running good
[10:06] <mugzie> o ok
[10:06] <Samuli^> farruinn, I'm talking about e17 of course.
[10:06] <Samuli^> e16 is pretty ugly :P
[10:06] <bewire> Must I have the 32codecs to get sound in kscd, tvwin, totem, etc ? I've tried to play an audio cd but theres no sound
[10:06] <azurehuesofblue> I need serious help with this what's l33t backwards? http://pastebin.com/712149
[10:06] <farruinn> Samuli^: I wouldn't put e17 on mugzie's laptop :P
[10:06] <Samuli^> bewire, you should be able to play audio-cd's out-of-box.
[10:07] <Samuli^> farruinn, me neither, but it could be a fun thing to try.
[10:07] <invisibleshadow> gnome freak, i paseted the output into the paste bin
[10:07] <bewire> Also with amd64 and the 64bit install ?
[10:07] <crazy_penguin> bewire: an ideea. try to play with the sound mixers cd button
[10:07] <andreasc89> is rocky II worth seeing?
[10:07] <mugzie> high it just said desktop
[10:07] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: can i have the link to where you pasted it please
[10:07] <gnomefreak> andreasc89: maybe in the 80s it was
[10:07] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:07] <farruinn> Samuli^: I used to pull e17 from cvs every once in a while. It looks so cool, but I think I'll wait until they finish.
[10:07] <andreasc89> it's on tv now
[10:08] <newbie33> I typed grub in root console on live CD, but bash says that grub:command not found
[10:08] <gnomefreak> andreasc89: please take movie talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:08] <Samuli^> farruinn, same here.
[10:08] <ClayG> Is there anyway to get ver2+ of Open Office with apt?
[10:08] <invisibleshadow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13802
[10:08] <gnomefreak> ClayG: nope
[10:08] <mugzie> andreasc89 do u got a tv tuner or something
[10:08] <eggzeck> ClayG, yes
[10:08] <Samuli^> farruinn, I just like to check how it's going along sometimes.
[10:08] <ClayG> I grabbed the package from their site and its all in rpm'
[10:08] <gnomefreak> ty invisibleshadow give em asec to look at it
[10:08] <eggzeck> gnomefreak, that is not true
[10:08] <ClayG> i used rpm -Uvih *rpm and it says to use alien
[10:08] <invisibleshadow> k
[10:08] <farruinn> ClayG: is there a difference between 2+ and openoffice.org2?
[10:08] <inx|David> Can someone help me with a problem while installing ubuntu?
[10:08] <eggzeck> ClayG, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2
[10:09] <ClayG> farruinn 2+ is 2 and above
[10:09] <ClayG> thanks eggzeck
[10:09] <azurehuesofblue> http://pastebin.com/712149 S>O>S
[10:10] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: the onboard looks like an intel card but not sure whsat your other card is called
[10:10] <mugzie> hey can someone link me to win32pck>?
[10:10] <invisibleshadow> how can i find out?
[10:10] <gnomefreak> eggzeck: he needs the OOo2 repos if hes on breezy
[10:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mugzie about w32codecs
[10:10] <ClayG> it's working like a charm here
[10:10] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: that im not sure
[10:11] <invisibleshadow> may be if i run alsa setup it will show
[10:11] <newbie33> hey I cant go with that directives https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows , grub not found, I booted on LIVE CD
[10:11] <mugzie> u only can use on 64bit
[10:11] <eggzeck> ClayG, after that: killall gnome-panel
[10:11] <gnomefreak> mugzie: w32codecs are made for 32 bit platforms
[10:12] <ClayG> does it have some glitch in the integration?
[10:12] <eggzeck> ClayG, then you can go to Applications->Office and see the beauty :)
[10:12] <mugzie> o ok cause i heard that i can watch video with win32 codecs
[10:12] <inx|David> Hi
[10:12] <gnomefreak> eggzeck: lol @ beauty in OOo1.9
[10:12] <gnomefreak> mugzie: you can watch some yes
[10:12] <mugzie> o ok thanks man
[10:12] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell mugzie about restricted
[10:12] <eggzeck> gnomefreak, what are you babbling about?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> eggzeck: 2.0 is not in breezy
[10:13] <inx|David> When im installing ubuntu, it copies over all the files and takes mys ettings, then ejects disk and restart, it then gets to 60% and all these words and stuff come on the screen and some sort of kernel error, i ran memtest and its fine and also reinstalled 3 times with 3 different disks, anyone any ideas?
[10:13] <Mystery47> mplayer is good prog to watch movies....:)
[10:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mugzie about restricted
[10:13] <invisibleshadow> i think my sound card is an intel because this is an intel laptop
[10:13] <Samuli^> newbie33, what do you mean you can't go with the guide?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: than yes it is but did you install a second soundcard?
[10:14] <invisibleshadow> i didn't do a thing
[10:14] <invisibleshadow> i had no sound the day i got it
[10:14] <newbie33> Samuli^, I cant boot to ubuntu after Installed XP, becouse the grub has gone
[10:14] <gnomefreak> ok hold on a min
[10:14] <Samuli^> neewbie33, yes. You need to re-install GRUB:
[10:14] <newbie33> ho to make it
[10:15] <HIGH-FREQ> from live cd
[10:15] <HIGH-FREQ> use the livecd
[10:15] <inx|David> Anyone any ideas?
[10:15] <newbie33> So I booted in it
[10:15] <newbie33> what to do next?
[10:15] <newbie33> type grub in root terminal
[10:15] <Samuli^> newbie33, there's the guide you pointed out. What don't you understand from it?
[10:15] <newbie33> I done it but got msg, grub not fount
[10:15] <ClayG> hell yeah
[10:15] <ClayG> thanks eggzeck
[10:15] <blaze> when i watch a movie with vlc media player i see little squares
[10:16] <blaze> that i don't see when i use windows
[10:16] <blaze> what should i do?
[10:16] <Samuli^> newbie33, hmm
[10:16] <Mystery47> im just a noob...but what version of ubuntu do you have? inx|David?
[10:16] <blaze> and.. the mplayer doesn't wan to play fullscreen.. and i'm tired of asking..
[10:16] <Mystery47> is it right version to your machine?
[10:17] <boet> hi
[10:17] <inx|David> latest one Mystery47
[10:17] <inx|David> yeah
[10:17] <Samuli^> newbie33, all I can say it _should_ work.
[10:17] <Mystery47> breezy maybe...or dapper?
[10:17] <inx|David> and i got them from ubuntu
[10:17] <inx|David> breezy
[10:17] <mpmc> blaze: for Mplayer goto the Prefs -> video & select Xv
[10:17] <inx|David> it still completes the instalation
[10:17] <inx|David> but then xserv wont load
[10:17] <inx|David> !ati
[10:17] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:17] <blaze> Xv doesn't work :(((
[10:17] <mpmc> blaze: Hmm...
[10:18] <blaze> maby it's because of my video
[10:18] <blaze> Via Unichrome pro
[10:18] <blaze> (integrated)
[10:18] <Mystery47> ok....i just have p3 1g....and i use that 386 version....it works most of machines...pentiums..
[10:18] <mpmc> blaze: "Ewww"
[10:18] <blaze> but when i use bsplayer in windows i don't have any problems :)
[10:18] <blaze> ew, yes :D
[10:18] <MrGideon> I've been having a problem with video drivers myself. X can't find the nvidia.ko module, even though it's there, and can be modprobed without error, and shows up on lsmod
[10:18] <Mystery47> then there is amd versions and so on...
[10:19] <mpmc> blaze: Whats the problem with VLC?
[10:19] <blaze> actually it's the best opportunity.. the problem is that i see little squares
[10:19] <blaze> when i go fullscreen
[10:19] <blaze> that i don't see in windows
[10:19] <Samuli^> does vlc use xine or gs-streamer engine?
[10:19] <Mystery47> so you get tilt text when you start machine?
[10:20] <blaze> mpmc, i can get over it, but i wanted to use mplayer in order to use subtitles
[10:20] <blaze> it's kind of easire
[10:20] <Samuli^> most problems people are having are because of the shitty gs-streamer.
[10:20] <blaze> easier *
[10:20] <mpmc> blaze: that's the quality.. of the video (whats the codec?)
[10:20] <void^> blaze: what graphics driver are you using?
[10:20] <inx|David> whats the default ubuntu root password?
[10:20] <Mystery47> that what you put it...
[10:20] <mpmc> inx|David: there isn't one
[10:20] <blaze> in mplayer i use x11 (XImage/Shm)
[10:20] <Samuli^> inx, if you mean sudo, it's the same as your passwd.
[10:20] <Mystery47> when you installed ubuntu....:)
[10:20] <blaze> the others don't work or wor veeeery slow :)
[10:21] <void^> blaze: no, what X driver. sounds like you use a nonaccelerated driver like vesa.
[10:21] <inx|David> ah cheers
[10:21] <inx|David> how do i switch to root?
[10:21] <inx|David> do i have to enable that or something?
[10:21] <invisibleshadow> where did gnomefreak go?
[10:21] <blaze> i think it's accelerated :D
[10:21] <gnomefreak> im right here
[10:21] <mpmc> blaze: thats down to your graphic's card..
[10:21] <Samuli^> inx|David, you can't as such.
[10:21] <Mystery47> su
[10:21] <gnomefreak> kind of
[10:21] <ssam> !root
[10:21] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:21] <tla> hi, I am trying to get the share to work, but I am not albe to login when the user/password dialog shows up in windows. can anybody help?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> sudo not su
[10:22] <blaze> ok.... but why mplayer isn't working.. and vlc is :) ?
[10:22] <inx|David> i prefer su :p
[10:22] <Mystery47> temporarly sudo
[10:22] <invisibleshadow> so what should i do?
[10:22] <Samuli^> you could always use gksudo in front of starting the prog, or sudo -sh in terminal.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> Mystery47: dont advise su to people in here please
[10:22] <Mystery47> ?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: not sure the person i asked is doing a bunch of things atm
[10:22] <mpmc> blaze: Hmm.. that is very stange..
[10:22] <ssam> !tell inx|David about root
[10:22] <blaze> and also.. when i play a movie with xine
[10:22] <void^> because vlc softwarescales by default, mplayer scales only if you tell it to
[10:22] <Mystery47> why? ....if ppl is asking to get root....hmm
[10:22] <blaze> it goes a little bit slow
[10:23] <blaze> but in full screen
[10:23] <invisibleshadow> the video doesn't work as well
[10:23] <blaze> only
[10:23] <HIGH-FREQ> just do  sudo -s  if u want root
[10:23] <mpmc> blaze: Yes thats down to your graphics card sadly
[10:23] <gnomefreak> what people prefer or do on thier own pcs has nothing to do with support advise sudo not su
[10:23] <blaze> in mplayer it works, but only in small mode :)
[10:23] <blaze> i see :)
[10:23] <void^> use a proper video driver that supports xv ("via" does on unichrome chips)
[10:23] <blaze> so.. i should use vlc..
[10:23] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: what does work?
[10:23] <UKMatt> I have podcasts in my trashcan that are aparently locked, and won't delete, how do i empty my trash then?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell invisibleshadow about nvidia
[10:23] <ramvi> I'm trying to use xgl. But as I replace the /etc/X11/X (as said in the wiki) I can't get X started again. What should I do? Using kde..
[10:23] <invisibleshadow> internet that i setup my self :)
[10:23] <mpmc> blaze: Do what void just said..
[10:23] <blaze> void^, you say that via unichrome pro supports xv, right?
[10:23] <Mystery47> ok
[10:24] <Mystery47> ....sorry...:(
[10:24] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: your pm has info on your video card
[10:24] <mpmc> blaze: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:24] <blaze> so i should go to via's page and find my driver,shouldn't i?
[10:24] <invisibleshadow> thanks
[10:24] <invisibleshadow> k
[10:24] <tla> can anybody help with sharing?
[10:24] <tla> (windows sharing)
[10:24] <Samuli^> tla, what do you want to know?
[10:24] <void^> blaze: compare the chips supported at http://unichrome.sourceforge.net with your 'lspci' output
[10:24] <mpmc> blaze: tell us what driver its using under device section
[10:25] <tla> I setup the share in the ubuntu machine but I can't access it from the windows machine
[10:25] <Samuli^> tla, uhh.. is it samba or nfs?
[10:25] <blaze> Driver		"vesa"
[10:25] <tla> samba
[10:25] <Samuli^> tla, I managed to get that working by reading the samba-manuals.
[10:26] <mpmc> blaze: Or follow, that link, (I'll shut up, Void can answer your questions.. he's better, I'm still a noob mysql)
[10:26] <Samuli^> it isn't really that hard.
[10:26] <lampshade> I'm running 5.10 on a 686 kernel, and after the last update, that kernel is like borked.  The machine won't boot.  Luckily I can fall back onto the old i386 kernel like I am now.  Suggestions?  The installer had encountered errors while updated and apparently they were some errors.  Anyone know what logs I can check to figure out what's going on?
[10:26] <Samuli^> tla, did you do the sharing via nautilus or with terminal?
[10:26] <mpmc> Myself, Damn, I have MySQL on the brain!
[10:26] <tla> Samuli^ with nautilus
[10:27] <invisibleshadow> when i enter my password to run Synaptic Package Manager, nothing happens
[10:27] <tla> Samuli^, it appears in the System>Administartion>Shared Folders
[10:27] <Samuli^> tla, the basic thing is that you need to have the same workgroup and I think ip's that are the same beside the last three digits.
[10:27] <tla> Samuli^ the problem is that i can't seem to login
[10:27] <andreasc89> how do I unmount a drive in the terminal?
[10:28] <tla> Samuli^, it is the same subnet, and the same workgroup
[10:28] <lampshade> umount
[10:28] <lampshade> I don't know why they felt they needed to leave off the n
[10:28] <lampshade> that type of stuff annoys me
[10:28] <Samuli^> ahh.. you might have different login 'stuff' in the samba.. you really should read samba documentation on the internet somewhere.
[10:28] <chicken_Fire> Hi guys.
[10:28] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: are you the person that installed ubuntu?
[10:28] <tla> Samuli^ I'll try, thx
[10:28] <Samuli^> I can't remember how I managed to get it work, but I just needed to read some documentaries.
[10:28] <invisibleshadow> gnome freak, the link tells me to go to synaptic package manager. It asks for a password. after i enter the pass word, nothing happens
[10:28] <invisibleshadow> no
[10:29] <invisibleshadow> it came pre installed
[10:29] <chicken_Fire> I would like to know which alternative desktop is devivered in ubuntu beside gnome or kde.
[10:29] <Samuli^> tla, try searching for something like windows linux samba sharing or something.
[10:29] <cached> when i upgrade to dapper, what should i make sure i do
[10:29] <newbie33> how to find out in console on which disc ubuntu is isntalled?
[10:30] <doctormo> hello all
[10:30] <blaze> void^, how can i install new drivers to my video card?
[10:30] <chicken_Fire> newbie33 type "mount"
[10:30] <chicken_Fire> the partition mounting "/" is your root partition with the system
[10:31] <newbie33> there are many partitions
[10:31] <crazy_penguin> how can i update from breezy to dapper without reinstalling everyting from scratch?
[10:31] <doctormo> I have all my network stuff in a script, it's sets up dhcpd, dhclients eth0 and sets up eth2 to share the internet accross it, how can I get all this to be configured when the computer starts instead of running this file each time?
[10:31] <newbie33> /dev /proc/ ..
[10:31] <Samuli^> newbie, root shows first in the list.
[10:31] <newbie33> :/
[10:31] <newbie33> tmpfs on / type tmpfs (rw)
[10:31] <Samuli^> it's something like /dev/hda2 or hdb1
[10:31] <newbie33> guys it says nothing
[10:32] <doctormo> newbie33: what is the problem?
[10:32] <azurehuesofblue> herm
[10:32] <newbie33> problem? I cant boot ubuntu after XP install
[10:32] <Samuli^> newbie, does the 'grub' command work?
[10:32] <newbie33> boot to live cd ant type grub not work
[10:32] <newbie33> :(
[10:32] <invisibleshadow> how can i get to synaptic package manager from the terminal?
[10:32] <newbie33> really
[10:32] <cached> newbie: fix grub through knoppix
[10:32] <HIGH-FREQ> newbie33: what bout mounting the root partition  /dev/hda3 or whever u put it
[10:32] <Mystery47> This is good command to update breezy to dapper: gksudo "update-manager -d" (just sit and relax)
[10:32] <gnomefreak> invisibleshadow: gksudo synaptic
[10:33] <doctormo> newbie33: thats because XP overrides the MBR
[10:33] <mike930> i'm trying to write to a usd disk and it won't let me change permissions and sometimes it will say the disk is locked anyone got any ideas?
[10:33] <mike930> usb
[10:33] <newbie33> doctormo I undrestand
[10:33] <HymnToLife> blaze>
[10:33] <chicken_Fire> invisibleshadow, type synaptic ;)
[10:33] <HymnToLife> ow
[10:33] <newbie33> but now I want to do sth
[10:33] <newbie33> nothing help
[10:33] <newbie33> s
[10:33] <HymnToLife> nope never mind, sorry :p
[10:33] <crazy_penguin> Mystery47: but he's saying that i'm up to date
[10:33] <doctormo> newbie33: to get it back you need to get grub to insert a new mbr which points to the boot selector
[10:33] <UKMatt> I have podcasts in my trashcan that are aparently locked, and won't delete, how do i empty my trash then?
[10:33] <invisibleshadow> thanks
[10:33] <newbie33> doctormo, how you prefer to make it?
[10:34] <lampshade> What do I do to have apt-get install me a new kernel and auto update grub?  Trying to fix something that Synaptic broke the other night :-/
[10:34] <doctormo> newbie33: you can load grub from a floppy or a live cd
[10:34] <rabidphage> greetings
[10:34] <rabidphage> what is the differance between the ip suite stack and the osi model??
[10:34] <blaze> =D
[10:34] <newbie33> there are no floppy on laptop
[10:34] <inx|David> arrggh
[10:34] <Samuli^> doctormo, thing is he's on the ubuntu live cd right now, and 'grub' doesn't work.
[10:34] <newbie33> but I can easy boot to live cd
[10:34] <Mystery47> with command that i gave you....i just updated my breezy to dapper like that...
[10:35] <doctormo> Samuli^: really?
[10:35] <crazy_penguin> ok i'll try another time
[10:35] <Samuli^> doctormo, really, really.
[10:35] <Samuli^> Pretty odd you there's no grub on ubuntu live.
[10:36] <newbie33> :)
[10:36] <newbie33> oh really?
[10:36] <inx|David> i wonder if the live disk works
[10:36] <crazy_penguin> Mystery47: same message: Your system is up to date
[10:36] <doctormo> Samuli^: perhaps he can install it, you have the internet newbie33? use apt-get to install grub
[10:36] <inx|David> i really want ubuntu on my laptop
[10:36] <doctormo> inx|David: whats wrong?
[10:36] <Mystery47> only thing what was messed was graphics.....on startup...but xorg.conf changes make it work again....and latest nvidia drivers you can have in synaptic...
[10:37] <skwid_> i'm trying to write to a fat32 partition
[10:37] <inx|David> after it restarts to install packages it errors about kernel null pointer and comes up with words all ver the screen, then xserver wont load
[10:37] <skwid_> i can write
[10:37] <skwid_> but all the files have root as there owner
[10:37] <Samuli^> skwid, you should be able to.
[10:37] <skwid_> is there a way to change that ?
[10:37] <doctormo> inx|David: sounds like the wrong cpu
[10:37] <thechitowncubs> Howdy, is there a skype packaged for Dapper that anyone knows of?
[10:37] <Samuli^> skwid, you have mounted it as such.
[10:37] <skwid_> and many of my apps don't work correctly
[10:37] <UKMatt> does anyone know how to get rid of W: Couldn't stat source package list http://theli.free.fr ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/theli.free.fr_packages_breezy_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:37] <UKMatt>  when i open synaptic?
[10:37] <inx|David> possibly
[10:37] <inx|David> i noticed it was usuing 386
[10:37] <skwid_> for example if i set firefox to download to that fat32 partition
[10:38] <inx|David> my laptop has an amd turion 64bit
[10:38] <newbie33> I have 5.04 live CD version
[10:38] <doctormo> UKMatt: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove that entry I think
[10:38] <skwid_> it creates files with a 0 size
[10:38] <Samuli^> skwid, use chmod to change priviledges.
[10:38] <newbie33> is GRUB on this version?
[10:38] <Mystery47> skype is in dapper....
[10:38] <doctormo> inx|David: and what is the linux compiled for?
[10:38] <Samuli^> or do that in fstab so it's permanent.
[10:38] <skwid_> Samuli^: on the fat partition ?
[10:38] <UKMatt> doctormo, which is that though
[10:38] <skwid_> Samuli^: how ?
[10:38] <D3a> newbie33, yes
[10:38] <Samuli^> umm..
[10:38] <inx|David> pc
[10:38] <inx|David> 32bit i think
[10:38] <Samuli^> !tell skwid_ fstab
[10:38] <Samuli^> does that work?
[10:38] <newbie33> D3a, It should work on Xwindows or in console?
[10:39] <doctormo> inx|David: 386? 586? 686? AMD64? P4?
[10:39] <inx|David> no idea
[10:39] <inx|David> its a disk i got from ubuntu
[10:39] <skwid_> Samuli^: hum, no
[10:39] <newbie33> x86
[10:39] <the_room_flooder> hello
[10:39] <doctormo> newbie33: have you gone to a console and typed in: sudo apt-get install grub ??
[10:39] <Samuli^> skwid_ http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[10:39] <skwid_> thx
[10:40] <inx|David> should i redownload a different one?
[10:40] <newbie33> doctormo, on live CD?
[10:40] <doctormo> newbie33: yes, it will install it to the ram disc
[10:40] <newbie33> wait Ill try it
[10:40] <doctormo> newbie33: so if you restart it will be lost, but you don't need it for ever
[10:40] <inx|David> doctormo should i download a different one?
[10:41] <UKMatt> is installing a tar.bz2 the same as a tar.gz?
[10:41] <lampshade> UKMatt, they are just a type of zip basically.  tar sticks the files together and the the gz is gunzip where the other one is bzipped
[10:41] <doctormo> inx|David: the problem is that AMD chip might be something special and I'm not sure if ubuntu is clever enough to install 386 or amd64 kernel
[10:41] <UKMatt> lampshade, ty
[10:42] <doctormo> inx|David: so your best bet I think is to compile your kernel
[10:42] <mugzie> hey anyone id opera is fast?
[10:42] <roniez> how can i make a edit in fstab to mount from my windows computer?
[10:42] <inx|David> grub shows it as 386
[10:42] <roniez> smbmount during boot dont work. :S
[10:42] <skwid_> hum i dont know what to change
[10:42] <doctormo> inx|David: actualy before that, do a search with apt-cache search kernel to see if there is an amd64 version
[10:42] <lampshade> mugzie, it is pretty fast
[10:42] <skwid_> does anyone have a fat32 partition mounted ???
[10:43] <Samuli^> skwid_ I do.
[10:43] <mugzie> is it faster then the firefox u get with the ubuntu
[10:43] <inx|David> ok
[10:43] <doctormo> skwid_: I could insert my usb stick
[10:43] <skwid_> what's your fstab entry
[10:43] <lampshade> mugzie, I don't use it because I"m too used to my extensions and such in firefox, but I have it installed
[10:43] <Samuli^> wait a sec.
[10:43] <Hippi4mfn> Hi
[10:43] <doctormo> Hippi4mfn: hi
[10:43] <mugzie> lampshade do u have firefox1.5
[10:43] <lampshade> mugzie, umm  depends  I would say yes, probably faster than 1.0.7, but I upgraded my ubuntu ffox to 1.5
[10:44] <mugzie> ok can u help me update mine
[10:44] <lampshade> yeah it is actually pretty easy there is a wiki page for it, lemme see if I can get the bot to help
[10:44] <lampshade> !ffox
[10:44] <ubotu> lampshade: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:44] <Samuli^> skwid_ : /dev/hda4       /media/hda4     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[10:44] <thoreauputic> install galeon - it's faster than FF IMO
[10:44] <lampshade> !firefox
[10:44] <skwid_> ok
[10:44] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[10:44] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:44] <skwid_> what's the umask ??
[10:45] <thechitowncubs> !skype
[10:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[10:45] <inx|David> doctormo
[10:45] <lampshade> mugzie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion  should be all  you need like the bot said
[10:45] <inx|David> there was alot of stuff
[10:45] <doctormo> inx|David: yes?
[10:45] <psycose> hi
[10:46] <inx|David> like loads of pages
[10:46] <Hippi4mfn> Are on the Flight7 CD Images the same contents? just wondered because the file size between live and install differ a lot
[10:46] <Samuli^> skwid_ it's the priviledges.
[10:46] <doctormo> inx|David: ok, you can use grep to limit the results, press up to get back to the same command and type after it | grep -i amd
[10:46] <doctormo> (thats a pipe sysmbol)
[10:46] <skwid_> Samuli^: and can you show me a "ls -al" on one of your dirs on that partition ?
[10:46] <Samuli^> you could try umask=0000 to have everyone have all rights to the disk.
[10:46] <lampshade> Anyone know where I can get the little case the badges for Ubuntu that I see sometimes?  THey are the exact size of the windows ones
[10:46] <psycose> wel, i've update from breezy to dapper , how can i make sure i have all the news app like gnome deskbar, f-spot .... any tips ? thanks
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Hippi4mfn: the live CD now includes an installer (graphical)
[10:47] <crazy_penguin> psycose: how did you update? please tell me
[10:47] <inx|David> nothing for 64bit amd
[10:47] <Hippi4mfn> i know but the image is 80MB smaller
[10:47] <lampshade> psycose, could open a terminal and do a which f-spot   or which deskbar  things like that
[10:48] <crazy_penguin> i tried using update-manager but doesn't work
[10:48] <Mystery47> most progs have infos...:)
[10:48] <Mystery47> firefox....and such...
[10:48] <thoreauputic> Hippi4mfn: it really doesn't matter - you can install anything anyway (that you want)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> psycose: what is the output of uname -r?
[10:48] <psycose> crazy_penguin, well i've modified my sources.list file from breezy. to dapper .., deskbar & f-spot was not install i just notice that.. and install both ... but may be i miss other nice app ..
[10:48] <Hippi4mfn> ok thx
[10:48] <skwid_> Samuli^: nope... still on root:root
[10:49] <Mystery47> here is link to update: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[10:49] <budluva> who here uses chkrootkit? i saw this when running it....just wondering if this is normal...Checking `aliens'... no suspect files
[10:49] <doctormo> inx|David: did you manage to get the livecd to work?
[10:49] <psycose> gnomefreak, 2.6.15-21-386
[10:49] <Samuli^> skwid_ you umounted and mounted?
[10:49] <budluva> wtf is 'aliens'?????
[10:49] <inx|David> no doctormo it did the same thing
[10:49] <skwid_> Samuli^: yes
[10:49] <gnomefreak> psycose: run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:49] <Samuli^> budluva, aliens are alien packages.
[10:49] <gnomefreak> psycose: your not up to date
[10:50] <crazy_penguin> Mystery47:thx
[10:50] <psycose> gnomefreak, well i've already run it .. ok i'll run it again ..
[10:50] <Samuli^> to ubuntu rpm's are aliens and deb's are not.
[10:50] <Mystery47> when you update to dapper....prepare to wait for installing couple hours...maybe.....i just did...:(
[10:50] <gnomefreak> psycose: if you tell us what your looking for exactly we can point you to it
[10:50] <gnomefreak> psycose: latest kernel for dapper is 2.6.15-22
[10:50] <newbie33> Ok I need to get GRBL after installing windows, booted on Live CD, typed grub, and..
[10:50] <newbie33> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[10:50] <newbie33> Error 15: File not found
[10:50] <Mystery47> .....but its worth it :) .....now my web cam works just fine.....
[10:50] <newbie33> what it means?
[10:51] <doctormo> inx|David: yea I'd say that was a damn cpu issue, what do you end up with when you install? just a command prompt right?
[10:51] <budluva> Samuli^, explain again please? what are alien packages?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> psycose: also can we move this to either #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:51] <Egnygnok> if I install flight 7 today, will it be easy to upgrade to the release version coming out next month?
[10:51] <psycose> gnomefreak, well what i notice is that i've dist-upgrade fron breezy to dapper, and once again lot's of the new apps are not installed ...
[10:51] <roniez> how can i make a edit in fstab to mount from my windows computer?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Egnygnok: yes keep updating
[10:51] <McScruff> lo all, i have xUbuntu on my xbox and installed kaffeine, and it uses gstreamer, im trying to play an url and get "No URI handler implemented for" , how can i fix this ?
[10:51] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[10:51] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:51] <inx|David> yeah doctormo
[10:51] <mugzie> hey im stuck what do they mean install to \opt\firefox
[10:51] <roniez> ubotu: its over the network...
[10:51] <gnomefreak> mugzie: just copy and paste the commands
[10:51] <ubotu> roniez: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:52] <mugzie> i did
[10:52] <doctormo> inx|David: sudo apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.11
[10:52] <mugzie> i got a error
[10:52] <gnomefreak> mugzie: the tar -C /opt command will unpack it where it needs to be
[10:52] <thoreauputic> McScruff: try installing kaffeine-xine
[10:52] <gnomefreak> mugzie: what error?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> !info kaffeine-xine
[10:52] <ubotu> kaffeine-xine: (xine engine for kaffeine media player), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.7-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 174 kB, Installed size: 548 kB
[10:52] <inx|David> doctormo cant find it
[10:52] <doctormo> sudo apt-get update
[10:53] <newbie33> hey how to fix grub loader, I booted on live cd now
[10:53] <mugzie> ok it says firefox-1.5.0.3 tar gz:cannot be open no suck file or directory
[10:53] <doctormo> newbie33: did you install grub as I said?
[10:53] <mpmc> suck file, lol
[10:53] <Khamael> how can I get a newer firefox in breezy? I have a plugin that complains about me having an old version
[10:53] <thoreauputic> doctormo: 2.6.11 is bad news anyway
[10:53] <newbie33> doctormo, yes, now it runs fine
[10:53] <newbie33> what to do nex
[10:53] <newbie33> t
[10:53] <doctormo> thoreauputic: I don't mind which version
[10:54] <gnomefreak> mugzie: you need to cd to where you saved the download
[10:54] <thoreauputic> doctormo: apt-cache search linux
[10:54] <inx|David> will i do it with .12 then?
[10:54] <thoreauputic> doctormo: or apt-cache search linux-image
[10:54] <mugzie> can u like tell me how to do that its in my desktop
[10:54] <skwid_> Samuli^: yep.. still doesn't work
[10:54] <gnomefreak> mugzie: cd Desktop
[10:54] <skwid_> now i have root:plugindev as the owners ???
[10:54] <mugzie> ok
[10:55] <gnomefreak> mugzie: just like i typed it
[10:55] <gnomefreak> mugzie: now run the tar command
[10:55] <doctormo> thoreauputic: perhaps you can help inx|David he has an AMD|64 chip of some sort and his kernel is failing in both the livecd and the install
[10:55] <thoreauputic> inx|David: is this dapper ? (6.06)
[10:55] <corerunner> hello, I have a strange problem during bootup and was wondering if anyone could help
[10:56] <inx|David> thoreauputic no its 5.10
[10:56] <doctormo> thoreauputic: I don't think it is
[10:56] <newbie33> who could give good advice now, doctormo  maby you could, please?
[10:56] <corerunner> just installed 5.10 from CD and it hangs on Synchronizing system clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org
[10:56] <michi> press strg + c
[10:56] <doctormo> newbie33: I'm searching online, I havn't touched windows in 7 years
[10:57] <corerunner> I know this has been covered, but everything locks up, including the keyboard (usb or ps2), so I can't ctrl-c
[10:57] <thoreauputic> inx|David: are you installing the amd64 version? I hear the i386 version runs very well on amd64
[10:57] <newbie33> doctormo, uh thanks
[10:57] <inx|David> im installing the i386 version i believe, its the one that says "for pc
[10:57] <inx|David> and on the grub bootloader is says the kernel is the 386 one
[10:57] <Relampago> hi i tried using the nvidia installer script from ubuntuforums
[10:57] <doctormo> newbie33: you need to run: grub-install /dev/hda
[10:57] <Yoshidu62> hello all
[10:57] <Yoshidu62> I'm french
[10:57] <Mystery47> nice doctormo...:) (i have using ubuntu like 3 months or more....i dont never touch windows anymore)
[10:57] <Relampago> now my xserver isnt starting anymore, does someone have knowledge about that ?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> inx|David: OK - have you tried using the boot options like acpi=off ?
[10:58] <Yoshidu62> I have a question ^^
[10:58] <paradizelost> Relampago: if you are tyring to get the nvidia drivers working i recommend easyubuntu
[10:58] <paradizelost> !easyubuntu
[10:58] <Relampago> i used a script ..
[10:58] <paradizelost> !tell Relampago about easyubuntu
[10:58] <doctormo> Mystery47: I'm a programmer, I was using Debian when you had to use floppys to install it
[10:58] <michi> ok corerunner, I had the same prob but without freezing so it worked for me
[10:58] <newbie33> doctormo, seems terible grub> grub-install /dev/hda
[10:58] <newbie33> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[10:58] <AleXerTecH> hi everybody
[10:58] <mag_> I have all install in my pc but i can't see compiz ! someone can help me ?
[10:58] <AleXerTecH> i need help
[10:58] <paradizelost> !ask
[10:58] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[10:58] <Yoshidu62> me too ^^
[10:58] <doctormo> newbie33: ok exit grub first
[10:58] <AleXerTecH> i have installed ubuntu 5.10 in a machin without internet
[10:58] <michi> btw, corerunner I am a total linux newbie
[10:59] <Mystery47> :)
[10:59] <paradizelost> AleXerTecH: k
[10:59] <doctormo> newbie33: it isn't a 'grub' command it's a standard tool that comes _with_ grub
[10:59] <paradizelost> and??
[10:59] <inx|David> thoreauputic i tried it with som eboot options but cant remember which, ill have a look now, also i have to use the vga=771 one or else the screen goes black, its an amd turion procesor on a laptop
[10:59] <AleXerTecH> and i cant get listen any mp3  :'(
[10:59] <corerunner> cool michi, yeah I've had the problem before but my keyboard worked so it was no prob
[10:59] <paradizelost> !mp3
[10:59] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:59] <Xaero_Vincent> SUSE 10.1 out... anyone try it?
[10:59] <AleXerTecH> paradizelost, ohh, well thanks
[10:59] <duckdown> W: Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.ds1-6ubuntu28_i386.deb Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (216.165.129.138). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[10:59] <thoreauputic> inx|David: to be honest I have no experience with the 64 bit version
[10:59] <thug> !mplayer
[10:59] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:59] <Hippi4mfn> funny questin in #ubuntu Xaero_Vincent
[10:59] <duckdown> Is ca.archive.ubuntu.com broken??
[10:59] <inx|David> thoreauputic i did noapic and nolapic and it does the same thing
[10:59] <duckdown> i can't apt-get
[11:00] <duckdown> or adept update
[11:00] <michi> lol hippi
[11:00] <doctormo> inx|David: I just installed a desktop machine with a samperon amd64 and it worked fine...
[11:00] <paradizelost> duckdown: are you sudo apt-get update ?
[11:00] <corerunner> is there someway to tell grub to only load the essentials without any modules or anything, so I can edit /etc/default/ntpdate?
[11:00] <duckdown> paradizelost: yes
[11:00] <Yoshidu62> Vim 7.0 is here in Dapper???
[11:00] <thoreauputic> inx|David: have you tried searching the wiki for your laptop? Or using the users mailing list?
[11:00] <doctormo> corerunner: some sort of safe mode?
[11:00] <paradizelost> Yoshidu62: i've been told it won't make it
[11:00] <Hippi4mfn> Yoshidu62 if not compie it
[11:00] <corerunner> doctormo: that's my question
[11:01] <thoreauputic> inx|David: there's a whole pile of info on laptops on the wiki
[11:01] <budluva> does anyone here have a /etc/.pwd.lock file??? i just ran rkhunter and told me it was a hidden suspicious file, opened via sudo nano .pwd.lock and it seems empty, just wondering if this is normal?
[11:01] <newbie33> doctormo, what it means root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # grub-install /dev/hda
[11:01] <newbie33> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[11:01] <newbie33> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Yoshidu62: no
[11:01] <Yoshidu62> I'm french, I'don't understand ^^ answer yes or no ^^
[11:01] <corerunner> I've been using ubuntu for a little over a year and it's been fairly painless
[11:01] <gnomefreak> newbie33: dont paste
[11:01] <Panda-> I messed up xorg.conf.... how do I fix it ???
[11:01] <inx|David> have you got a link to the wiki?
[11:01] <Hippi4mfn> no
[11:01] <Yoshidu62> :-(
[11:01] <Relampago> paradizelost, it cant be run wqithout xserver
[11:01] <paradizelost> !paste
[11:01] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[11:01] <Yoshidu62> why?
[11:01] <Relampago> or bettwer it looks likle it cant run
[11:01] <budluva> Panda-, did you back up xorg.conf?
[11:01] <paradizelost> Relampago: oh, so the video doesn't work at all?
[11:01] <duckdown> !gentoosmite duckdown
[11:01] <ubotu> duckdown: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:01] <Relampago> no
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Yoshidu62: because it was released after the freezy
[11:01] <gnomefreak> -y
[11:01] <newbie33> there was only three lines
[11:01] <newbie33> sorry
[11:01] <thoreauputic> !lptop
[11:01] <ubotu> thoreauputic: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:01] <Relampago> the script shooted my working xserver
[11:01] <thoreauputic> bah
[11:01] <gnomefreak> s/freezy/freeze
[11:01] <Samuli^> Panda, check out if you have xorg.conf~ or whatever backup?
[11:02] <thoreauputic> !laptop
[11:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[11:02] <Panda-> okay, lemme check
[11:02] <Yoshidu62> ok thanks all
[11:02] <thoreauputic> inx|David: ^^^
[11:02] <corerunner> so... is there a "safe mode" in 5.10?
[11:02] <doctormo> newbie33: erm it might not have failed, reboot your machine and find out
[11:02] <paradizelost> Relampago: find where it says nvidia in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change it to nv
[11:02] <Samuli^> corerunner, yeah.
[11:02] <Yoshidu62> but Vim 7.0 is very very very good!!! :D
[11:02] <corerunner> Samuli: do you know how I can enable that?
[11:02] <paradizelost> corerunner: there's a rescue mode
[11:02] <paradizelost> command line only
[11:02] <doctormo> Yoshidu62: what is good about it?
[11:02] <corerunner> that's what I need
[11:02] <Relampago> failed to load glx
[11:02] <Samuli^> corerunner, is your grub working?
[11:02] <Relampago> falied to load nvidida
[11:02] <Yoshidu62> the tab, the omni-completion
[11:02] <markcial> hi
[11:02] <doctormo> Relampago: yes, no 3dfx support :-(
[11:03] <markcial> anyone wanna to play in a fps?
[11:03] <paradizelost> Relampago: commend out the line that says         load       "glx"
[11:03] <markcial> please theres no server created
[11:03] <Samuli^> froom there you can, and if you can get gdm to start you can check failsafe mode from there too.
[11:03] <corerunner> Samuli: yup everything is fine, loads the gui and all until it tries to synchronize time
[11:03] <inx|David> cheers thoreauputic
[11:03] <|Sivik|> !dapper
[11:03] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[11:03] <|Sivik|> !upgrade
[11:03] <Relampago> what does that mean ?
[11:03] <markcial> ey ppl
[11:03] <markcial> a new gpl fps is out
[11:03] <gnomefreak> Yoshidu62: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/editors/vim
[11:03] <thoreauputic> inx|David: good hunting :)
[11:03] <markcial> ;9
[11:03] <Samuli^> cprerunner, don't you have a failsafe option in grub?
[11:03] <markcial> ;)
[11:04] <markcial> for linux and windows
[11:04] <paradizelost> Relampago: what does what mean?
[11:04] <skwid_> i need help with fstab and fat32 :(
[11:04] <Relampago> should i also change nvidia to nv ?
[11:04] <corerunner> Samuli: I think it automatically boots the normal mode, how can I get a menu?
[11:04] <corerunner> tab?
[11:04] <paradizelost> yes
[11:04] <Relampago> doctormo	Relampago: yes, no 3dfx support :-(
[11:04] <corerunner> thanks I'll try
[11:04] <markcial> skwid_, -t vfat
[11:04] <markcial> ;)
[11:04] <Samuli^> skwid, paste your fstab line for the vfat.
[11:04] <markcial> anyone to play?
[11:04] <paradizelost> !offtopic
[11:04] <confrey> join #ubuntu-it
[11:04] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:04] <Relampago> ok xserver is starting :)
[11:04] <michi> I have a very stupid question btw: how can I higher refresh rates? In the system\settings\resolution\dropdowns, there is only 60 hz
[11:04] <skwid_> markcial: -t ??
[11:05] <markcial> in bash put
[11:05] <paradizelost> michi: are you sure your monitor supports it?
[11:05] <phiqtion> how do i extract a .ISO in linux?
[11:05] <inx|David> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioV5000Z
[11:05] <Samuli^> marckial is talking about mount command.
[11:05] <doctormo> Relampago: if you want a gui you can replace nvidia with vesa
[11:05] <Yoshidu62> I have doing my Vim 7.0 package for breezy
[11:05] <markcial> mount -t vfat "device" "dir_to_mount-2
[11:05] <michi> lol yes paradizelost
[11:05] <inx|David> Only thing i can found similar to my laptop
[11:05] <Ramunas> phiqtion you can just mount it
[11:05] <michi> about 100 @ my resolution
[11:05] <skwid_> /dev/hda5       /media/data     vfat    umask=0000,auto,noexec     0          0
[11:05] <paradizelost> phiqtion: you can use archive manager
[11:05] <markcial> skwid_,
[11:05] <skwid_> here you go Samuli^
[11:05] <markcial> try hda1
[11:05] <doctormo> phiqtion: isodump?
[11:05] <markcial> instead of hda5
[11:05] <paradizelost> michi: do you have the appropriate drivers loaded?
[11:06] <markcial> or hda2
[11:06] <paradizelost> for the vid. card?
[11:06] <skwid_> markcial: well that's not where my partition is ..
[11:06] <paradizelost> or stock?
[11:06] <Mum> is there anywhere that shows how to setup ubuntu for the first time  i.e how to install?
[11:06] <markcial> make ls /de/hda
[11:06] <markcial> make ls /dev/hda
[11:06] <paradizelost> !install
[11:06] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[11:06] <apple|laptop> what package has gtkmm ?
[11:06] <markcial> and put here te output
[11:06] <skwid_> what ???
[11:06] <Samuli^> skwid, try ,exec,rw?
[11:06] <Relampago> when i do startx, how can i kill it ?
[11:06] <phiqtion> how do i mount a .ISO ?
[11:06] <paradizelost> ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:06] <markcial> phiqtion,
[11:06] <Samuli^> I thought your problem were trying to run progs from the fat32?
[11:07] <michi> paradizelost: hmm good question I m working @ driver installation because until yesterday I "was" a Windows user :)
[11:07] <doctormo> apple|laptop: libgtk I believe, all those packages are rather odd
[11:07] <skwid_> Samuli^: to write to it with my user, and not root
[11:07] <doctormo> phiqtion: if you find out, let meknow
[11:07] <markcial> you have to fill with commands loop and iso-9961
[11:07] <markcial> with mount
[11:07] <michi> I got some sh .... from nvidia
[11:07] <Samuli^> skwid, rw,exec, try that.
[11:07] <eobanb_> !sound
[11:07] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:07] <adamm> would someone please tell me the command to mount my external firewire hardrive that is formated as HFS+
[11:07] <Samuli^> rw = read and write
[11:07] <azurehuesofblue> how do you guys have your sound set up? like? 50 master 75 output 75 3rdparty 75speaker?
[11:07] <paradizelost> michi: just use easyubuntu for the nvidia drivers
[11:07] <skwid_> Samuli^: instead of the options ?
[11:07] <markcial> Samuli^, he is triing to mount the wrong partition
[11:07] <mike930> Having trouble mounting usb disk, getting not owner error, and disk is locked error. Can't chmod it, and disk isn't lockable, anyone have any idea?
[11:07] <michi> oki thx
[11:07] <paradizelost> !tell michi about easyubuntu
[11:07] <Samuli^> exec instead noexec and add rw
[11:08] <doctormo> adamm: adamm can you _see_ the hard drive as a device first of all?
[11:08] <skwid_> markcial: im not, that's where my windows partition is ...
[11:08] <corerunner> okay booting into Recovery Mode gives me a kernel panic so something else must be wrong... maybe a bad hdd
[11:08] <Samuli^> markcial, how do you know that?
[11:08] <markcial> sure?
[11:08] <skwid_> markcial: positive ...
[11:08] <markcial> hda5 is for swap
[11:08] <Samuli^> not for everyone..
[11:08] <markcial> :S
[11:08] <skwid_> markcial: what are you talking about ?
[11:08] <Mystery47> this is good place to get most things to work....http://ubuntuguide.org/
[11:08] <paradizelost> corerunner: what type of comp is it?
[11:08] <doctormo> mike930: are you a member of the removeable media group?
[11:08] <markcial> in bash
[11:08] <phiqtion> how do i mount a .ISO ? in terminak?
[11:08] <markcial> ls /dev/hda
[11:08] <markcial> list devices
[11:08] <adamm> doctormo: when i type in fdisk -l it says that disk sda doesnt contain a valid partition table
[11:08] <paradizelost> phiqtion: mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount
[11:08] <markcial> there will be the hda2
[11:08] <mike930> doc, how do i add myself to that list?
[11:09] <paradizelost> mike930: sudo vigr
[11:09] <mike930> users and groups
[11:09] <Panda-> where are the xorg files located? /etc?
[11:09] <corerunner> paradize: I just built it from old parts- Asus KT7A, athlon 1400, 512mb pc133, not sure of the hdd
[11:09] <markcial> Panda-, /etc/X11
[11:09] <paradizelost> mike930: add your name to the appropriate group in the list
[11:09] <doctormo> adamm: ah, perhaps hfs is not installed in the kernel
[11:09] <markcial> ey any fps player?
[11:09] <markcial> lets match
[11:09] <markcial> ;)
[11:09] <doctormo> mike930: commandline or gui?
[11:09] <adamm> hmm. i thought that it was
[11:09] <paradizelost> corerunner: find out what type of hdd, and download their disk tester
[11:10] <paradizelost> usually floppy boottable
[11:10] <corerunner> I'm planning on using it for Linux From Scratch so I don't really need a hdd yet
[11:10] <corerunner> alright, thanks for the tip
[11:10] <skwid_> drwxrwxrwx 9 root plugdev 32768 2006-05-09 22:48
[11:10] <mike930> doc gui
[11:10] <doctormo> adamm: and you've tried mounting manualy with mount -t hfs ... ... ect?
[11:10] <skwid_> wtf is plugdev as a group ????
[11:10] <paradizelost> corerunner: or you could set up an ltsp server
[11:10] <corerunner> ltsp?
[11:10] <paradizelost> and not even need an hdd
[11:10] <doctormo> mike930: use the admin users tool and go to the groups tab
[11:10] <paradizelost> linux terminal server project
[11:10] <paradizelost>  boots to the network
[11:10] <azurehuesofblue> how should I set up my sound on a desktop computer with turntable monitor speakers... 50 sound, 75 outspeaker, 75 3rd plaryer, 75 monitorspeaker?
[11:10] <corerunner> that would be hot
[11:10] <Panda-> there's a xorg.conf with a datestamp, what do I do next?
[11:10] <markcial> ey ppl where i can find anny fps channel?
[11:10] <paradizelost> corerunner: you just have another machine as ther server
[11:11] <adamm> doctormo: do you know the command for that offhand? I already have a folder created in media to mount it to
[11:11] <doctormo> paradizelost: using it as a thin client?
[11:11] <Samuli^> Panda, is there any backups of the xorg.conf?
[11:11] <paradizelost> yep,
[11:11] <paradizelost> i make some modifications myself though
[11:11] <Samuli^> like conf~ or conf.backup.
[11:11] <mike930> doc what group would usbdisk be under?
[11:11] <paradizelost> make the /   fs rw,
[11:11] <Mum> just a quick question.. do you need to have a FORMATTED HD in before install? if so what format
[11:11] <skwid_> is there any graphical interface for fstab ?
[11:11] <Panda-> there is, a second xorg.conf.060507
[11:11] <paradizelost> remove the ltsp client
[11:11] <apple|laptop> doctormo, gtk and libgtk don't exist
[11:11] <Panda-> well I think it's a backup...
[11:11] <paradizelost> and install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <Samuli^> Panda, well you could just try to copy that over the bad one.
[11:12] <doctormo> adamm: mount -t hfs /dev/sdX /mnt/point
[11:12] <markcial> Panda-, if there is problems with xorg try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:12] <paradizelost> then, it's a network bootable client, the whole fs is over NFS
[11:12] <adamm> ty
[11:12] <paradizelost> and all processing is done locally so you have sound, etc...
[11:12] <Panda-> ok, thanks
[11:12] <doctormo> apple|laptop: what were you asking again? sorry lost the thread
[11:12] <apple|laptop> doctormo, installing gtkmm
[11:12] <markcial> any fps player?
[11:12] <markcial> i want to test a new fps gpl game
[11:13] <paradizelost> !tell markcial about offtopic
[11:13] <Samuli^> markcial, this isn't a game-channel.
[11:13] <doctormo> apple|laptop: ah yes, a real pain, don't let apt-get install it for you as a dep of something else
[11:13] <Panda-> and what's the command to start Xorg?
[11:13] <markcial> where is a game channel?
[11:13] <markcial> i asked bout this
[11:13] <doctormo> Panda-: startx
[11:13] <Samuli^> startx
[11:13] <paradizelost> try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:13] <paradizelost> ask there
[11:13] <newbie33> doctormo, terible news, now I cant boot XP or ant other OS :((
[11:13] <Relampago> is there a graphiccard benchmark available for linux ?
[11:13] <apple|laptop> doctormo, I want to straight up install it, but how?
[11:13] <adamm> doctormo, it says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock, missing codepage or other error...
[11:13] <doctormo> newbie33: Ah now you need to _configure_ grub to beable to boot the other OS
[11:14] <apple|laptop> doctormo, I've tried libgtk gtk libgtkmm gtkmm, none of it worked
[11:14] <paradizelost> Relampago: did you get the nvidia drivers loaded now?
[11:14] <newbie33> doctormo, where to start?
[11:14] <doctormo> apple|laptop: I can't remember how I did it last time
[11:14] <Relampago> i think so
[11:14] <Samuli^> doctormo, do you know if cupsys is safe to remove?
[11:14] <doctormo> newbie33: boot back into your livecd
[11:14] <Relampago> i have nvidia-settings
[11:14] <paradizelost> Relampago: did you see the nvidia logo when the X started up?
[11:15] <farruinn> apple|laptop: what are you trying to install?
[11:15] <Relampago> have to reboot
[11:15] <paradizelost> k
[11:15] <doctormo> adamm: not good, I have a mac but I've never tried to mount it
[11:15] <newbie33> doctormo, I am in the live CD
[11:15] <newbie33> I cant by anywhere else
[11:15] <adamm> doctormo, perhaps my filesystem is not correctly formatted? is there a way to tell through ubuntu? it works fine on a mac
[11:15] <apple|laptop> farruinn, gtkmm
[11:15] <doctormo> newbie33: ok I think what is happened is you run grub from livecd but live cd has no settings so it just install a blank grub
[11:16] <anon> can someone help me? when i try to login to gnome the computer freezes up
[11:16] <newbie33> so I need to configure it manually
[11:16] <anon> well, it does not freeze, but nothing happens
[11:16] <paradizelost> newbie33: you can mount the hdd, chroot into it, and then run grub
[11:16] <doctormo> adamm: it could be that the version of hfs is not suported or you have an old version in the kernel. I don't know.
[11:16] <farruinn> adamm: is it hfs or hfs+? if hfs+ do 'sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdX /mnt/path'
[11:16] <doctormo> paradizelost: you better givehim the commands for that
[11:16] <newbie33> yea
[11:16] <adamm> farruinn. hfs+. i will try that
[11:16] <doctormo> farruinn: worth knowing :-)
[11:16] <paradizelost> anon: delete .Xauthority in your home directory
[11:17] <anon> what doe sthat do?
[11:17] <Relampago> paradizelost, it not working since reboot
[11:17] <paradizelost> i've found that it can cause gnome not to allow you to get all the way in
[11:17] <Relampago> says something about different kernel api and driver
[11:17] <anon> what is the function of the fiole?
[11:17] <doctormo> Relampago: a complat freeze?
[11:17] <farruinn> apple|laptop: tried libgtkmm-2.4-1c2 ?
[11:17] <paradizelost> newbie33: do you know where your original / is located?
[11:17] <psycose> Grub problem/ current version dapper (updated from breezy) sudo update-grub tells me : Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ... however i've : splashimage (hd0,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/ubuntu.xpm.gz with /boot on /dev/hda1  , any tips thanks ?
[11:17] <adamm> farruinn: It worked! BUT just read-only...
[11:17] <newbie33> paradizelost, no Im not sure
[11:18] <ethan> how do i configure i click instead of double-click when i do click on a icon
[11:18] <paradizelost> anon: i'm  not familiar w/ it's function, but i know it causes that problem
[11:18] <ethan> s/i/one
[11:18] <Relampago> api mismatch
[11:18] <doctormo> adamm: have you checked the support for hfs+?
[11:18] <anon> im not so sure i should delete it if i do not know what it does
[11:18] <paradizelost> Relampago: did you use easyubuntu?
[11:18] <paradizelost> or the script again?
[11:18] <doctormo> ethan: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:18] <ethan> ubuntu
[11:18] <jryer> Are there any shortcuts/good instructions on getting LAMP set up on ubuntu?
[11:18] <farruinn> adamm: sudo modprobe hfsplus first, then mount
[11:18] <paradizelost> anon: trust me, i have it happen fairly often
[11:19] <farruinn> adamm: I don't know why, but the hfsplus module isn't loaded automatically :/
[11:19] <paradizelost> there's also sometimes a .ICEauthority that i have to delete
[11:19] <apple|laptop> farruinn, thanks
[11:19] <doctormo> farruinn: you have done this before?
[11:19] <paradizelost> anyone able to back me up w/ anon's issue?
[11:19] <adamm> farruinn, should i unmount before doing the modprobe thing
[11:19] <newbie33> paradizelost, what You had when installed XP on grub?:)
[11:19] <newbie33> tell me what to do
[11:19] <farruinn> adamm: oh, then when you mount: 'mount -w -t hfsplus /dev/sdX /mnt/path'
[11:19] <newbie33> Im sad
[11:19] <sn0wman> are there any dapper packages for diva yet?
[11:19] <farruinn> doctormo: just now :)
[11:19] <paradizelost> newbie33: open gparted
[11:19] <farruinn> adamm: doesn't matter really, but umount, then mount agian with the -w flag
[11:19] <paradizelost> i think it's in the list on the livecd
[11:20] <farruinn> sn0wman: check packages.ubuntu.com
[11:20] <paradizelost> !dapper
[11:20] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[11:20] <newbie33> paradizelost, where to find gparted?
[11:20] <adamm> farruinn: what is the command to unmount?
[11:20] <doctormo> adamm: once you have it mounting the way you like you can add it to your /etc/fstab for safe keeping
[11:21] <michi> oki thx for the tipp with easyubuntu paradizelost, got it! only another prob :)  the python script says: /bin/sh: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[11:21] <doctormo> adamm: umount /mount/point
[11:21] <paradizelost> newbie33: try applications->system tools
[11:21] <adamm> doctormo, ahh thanks that was my next question
[11:21] <farruinn> adamm: umount
[11:21] <sn0wman> well i know that there aren't any in universe yet.  i was just wondering if anyone had packaged it and put it out there on the web somewhere
[11:21] <paradizelost> michi: did it install the driver right?
[11:21] <michi> no
[11:22] <kbrooks> Mystery47: are you there?
[11:22] <paradizelost> michi: k.  edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the "nv" to "nvidia"
[11:22] <kbrooks> Mystery47:
[11:22] <newbie33> paradizelost,  there is no gparted in applications->system tools
[11:22] <michi> oki thx
[11:22] <paradizelost> michi: then restart gdm
[11:22] <kbrooks> !tell Mystery47 about ubuntuguide
[11:22] <michi> oki
[11:22] <paradizelost> newbie33: do you have an install cd?
[11:22] <farruinn> adamm: If you want it to be read/write all the time, I think you'll want to 'sudo echo hfsplus >> /etc/modules' too, that way the hfsplus module is loaded all the time
[11:22] <Mystery47> yes?
[11:22] <newbie33> paradizelost, Im on live cd 5.04
[11:23] <newbie33> yes I have
[11:23] <Kyral> farruinn: long time no see
[11:23] <doctormo> farruinn: good idea if he is going to add it to his fstab
[11:23] <blaze> In VLC Media player how to change the position of the subtitles?
[11:23] <kbrooks> Mystery47: you linked to it a hour or so ago
[11:23] <Mystery47> ok....ubuntuguide is badly out of date....:(
[11:23] <Mystery47> but that was really help for me...when i started to use breezy...:)
[11:23] <doctormo> damn I need to set my internet sharing to load when I boot
[11:23] <doctormo> anyone know how?
[11:24] <farruinn> Mystery47: I think there is a new guide in the wiki, don't remember the link though
[11:24] <Mystery47> like in those mounting iso stuff...
[11:24] <steffi> how I use my use webcam??
[11:24] <farruinn> doctormo: iirc there's an option for that in firestarter
[11:24] <Mystery47> yes farruinn.....i get message allready....thanks...:)
[11:24] <__filip_>  /dev/hda6       /media/hda6     ext2    defaults,errors=remount-rw 0       1 is that right if i whant my user to be abel to read and write to that partition?
[11:25] <psycose> Grub problem/ current version dapper (updated from breezy) sudo update-grub tells me : Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ... however i've : splashimage (hd0,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/ubuntu.xpm.gz with /boot on /dev/hda1  , any tips thanks ?
[11:25] <adamm> farruinn: ive tried all of your above suggestions including modprobe and then mounting with the -w .... still read only
[11:26] <psycose> Oh Lord i was missing the = for my grub config ...
[11:27] <inx|David> damn it why wont this work
[11:27] <doctormo> adamm: have a look at some hfs+ mounting tools called hpmount and hpumount
[11:28] <adamm> doctormo: will do
[11:28] <blaze> how to make Totem work with subtitles?
[11:28] <blaze> The subtitles button in the menu is gray..
[11:28] <farruinn> adamm: sorry, you have to do everything with sudo. I don't really know how to get around this yet, but I don't often have a need to write to my hfsplus partition :/
[11:28] <blaze> not active
[11:28] <doctormo> adamm: there is also some sites saying kernels 2.6.16 and later suport read/write
[11:28] <julio> hola
[11:28] <ahmeni> argh, what's with debian based distros not specifying a lesspipe by default
[11:28] <chip42> farruinn:  if you want a root environment, sudo su -
[11:29] <psycose> see u lads
[11:29] <adamm> i see. i will look into all that
[11:29] <adamm> ive got to go. thanks doctormo and farruinn for your help
[11:29] <julio> hooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:29] <doctormo> inx|David: have you tried other linux distros?
[11:29] <Kokey> julio: #ubuntu-mx <== se habla espaol
[11:29] <Samuli^> sudo -s is better than su -
[11:29] <farruinn> adamm: cheers
[11:29] <gnomefreak> mx?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-es is spanish i thought
[11:29] <Kokey> gnomefreak: yes! Mexico
[11:29] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:30] <chip42> Samuli^: out of curiousity, what makes it better? going to read up on it now.
[11:30] <doctormo> I have to get some sleep soon *yawn*
[11:30] <farruinn> chip42: right, but what I actually want to get around is *having* to be root to do stuff on that partition
[11:31] <kbrooks> farruinn:
[11:31] <kbrooks> !fstab
[11:31] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[11:31] <chip42> farruinn: oh. i see. if the permissions are set correctly in /etc/fstab, you should be able to allieviate that
[11:32] <farruinn> kbrooks, chip42: thanks, I'll look into that
[11:35] <michi> hi again !
[11:35] <anon> can someone help me? i am having trouble getting gnome to load
[11:35] <HIGH-FREQ> anon: seems like a vid card error...xorg?
[11:36] <anon> HIGH-FREQ: yes i use xorg
[11:36] <michi> a tipp: never edit "etc/x11/xo...conf" with nv as nvidia
[11:36] <anon> HIGH-FREQ: should i reconfigure it?
[11:36] <anon> HIGH-FREQ: i have logged in with ths installation before
[11:37] <HIGH-FREQ> well try it again...  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:37] <HIGH-FREQ> and go thru it again
[11:37] <ubuntu_> hello anyone speak spanish
[11:37] <paradizelost> !es
[11:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:37] <MrRio> thought something was seriously wrong with my computer, it kept 'randomly' turning off --- turns out i had accidently set the 'Sleep' shortcut to a *
[11:37] <HIGH-FREQ> no hablo aqui
[11:37] <chip42> michi: hows that?
[11:37] <Snake__> !xgl
[11:37] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:37] <MrRio> no wonder it only happened when i was coding css
[11:37] <HIGH-FREQ> lol
[11:38] <michi> ?
[11:38] !lilo:*! Small regional server experiencing some packet loss; affected users, about 300
[11:38] <michi> paradizelost told me to do this and after restart it hangs
[11:39] <HIGH-FREQ> told u to do what?
[11:39] <michi> edit etc/x11/x*.conf
[11:39] <anon> HIGH-FREQ: well i reconfigured my xserver and gnome still will not load
[11:39] <clewfirst> hi everybody
[11:39] <HIGH-FREQ> does it pull up a error?
[11:39] <HIGH-FREQ> like from xorg?
[11:39] <chip42> michi: that is a typical step in installing the nvidia driver. it does not sound like the driver installation went ok
[11:40] <anon> HIGH-FREQ: the only terminal readout i get is taht it is reloading
[11:40] <paradizelost> michi: /etc/X11/xorg.conf you need to change it to nvidia from nv if you have an nvidia card to tell it to use nvidias driver not the stock
[11:40] <anon> HIGH-FREQ: the mouse works and the login screen comes up but after i log in nothing happens
[11:40] <anon> it just sits there
[11:40] <HIGH-FREQ> oh
[11:40] <HIGH-FREQ> so gnome's login works then..but just hangs on actually loading the desktop
[11:40] <anon> yes, precisely
[11:40] <michi> I did an then it hanged up
[11:41] <paradizelost> michi - then the driver didn't go right
[11:41] <HIGH-FREQ> on terminal...what are u typing to get into gnome?
[11:41] <paradizelost> anon, have you tried what i said yet?
[11:41] <michi> ok
[11:41] <anon> paradizelost: i did
[11:41] <fouad> i have a question on wine, can someone help me /???
[11:41] <anon> HIGH-FREQ: startx
[11:41] <doctormo> anon: your not logging in a root are you? I've seen if there is no xord settings for a user it won;t do anything
[11:41] <paradizelost> !wine
[11:41] <anon> no, not logging in as root
[11:41] <paradizelost> !tell fouad about wine
[11:41] <fouad> i have a game that i want to try to run it in ubuntu , its wine3d
[11:41] <paradizelost> michi: have you used Xgl by chance?
[11:42] <fouad> sorry , its worms3D
[11:42] <HIGH-FREQ> anon: well thats was what i was bout to suggest..use startx
[11:42] <michi> ? I see, I have to learn a lot to get the corner from winXP
[11:42] <michi> thx for your help
[11:43] <Vandalar> Hi. Tried to install NVIDIA drivers but: unable to find 'ld'. please verify if 'binutils' is installed
[11:43] <michi> I have to read some howtos etc... I think :)
[11:43] <fouad> it is composed of 2 cds, when i finish of the first cd and it asks for the second and i insert the second and i press the ok button, it doesnt detect it
[11:43] <michi> vandalar maybe try easyubuntu
[11:43] <fouad> what shall i do
[11:43] <fouad> ???
[11:43] <ericz> when i run "who" in the terminal, there's no output, i think i messed up a /var/run/utmp or /var/run/wtmp file or something, anybody got any ideas?
[11:43] <paradizelost> !nvidia
[11:43] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:44] <inx|David> !ati
[11:44] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:44] <AlmtyBob> what's a good simple ftp daemon?
[11:45] <doctormo> fouad: I ten to get my wine from wine.org apt servers, the ones in breezy are yonks old
[11:45] <doctormo> AlmtyBob: ftpd?
[11:45] <AlmtyBob> sounds good!
[11:45] <skwid_> Samuli^: i don't know what to do :(
[11:45] <AlmtyBob> how do I kill a gnome display?
[11:45] <ericz> why would running the "who" command in the terminal not give any output??
[11:45] <fouad> i know that and my version is the newest
[11:46] <AlmtyBob> I left a display on :0 when I had a monitor connected
[11:46] <paradizelost> ericz: have you tried whoami?
[11:46] <Samuli^> skwid_, man :/
[11:46] <ericz> whoami works fine
[11:46] <yarr> can somebody tell me how to install this flash player from a script, the readme sucks
[11:46] <AlmtyBob> now it's headless and I need it close that session
[11:46] <paradizelost> yarr, try easyubuntu
[11:46] <HymnToLife> AlmtyBob> do a server install :)
[11:46] <Samuli^> are you sure you have a fat32 partition and it's where abouts?
[11:46] <yarr> errr
[11:46] <yarr> what's that exactly?
[11:46] <chip42> ericz: your guess sounds pretty good. utmp is messed perhaps
[11:46] <paradizelost> !tell yarr about easyubuntu
[11:47] <ericz> chip42: how would i go about fixing it?
[11:47] <skwid_> Samuli^: yeah yeah
[11:47] <skwid_> i can access the files
[11:47] <Samuli^> oh, right.
[11:47] <skwid_> it's just that i can't always write on them
[11:47] <chip42> ericz: i have no idea. i would look at it with a utmp editor. wted or something
[11:47] <chip42> ericz: how did you mess it up is the real question. ;)
[11:48] <ericz> chip42:heh, i think i deleted /var/run/utmp or something
[11:48] <ericz> not really sure
[11:49] <odyssey> hello
[11:49] <Samuli^> skwid_, well it _should_ work with umask=0000 as far as I can tell. It should give everyone all permissions on that partition.
[11:49] <ubonton> hello
[11:49] <skwid_> uhm ..
[11:49] <ubonton> got a serious pb
[11:49] <odyssey> could anyone help me with a dvd movies
[11:49] <chip42> ericz: the output is the same for the 'w' command?
[11:50] <ubonton> I have trashed my liloboot with win install
[11:50] <mspoula> Hey anyone use qemu?
[11:50] <RandolphCarter> odyssey: what's up?
[11:50] <ericz> chip42: i'll take a screenshot
[11:50] <ubonton> no rescue disk .... what shall I do ?
[11:50] <michi> use windows?
[11:50] <michi> sorry!
[11:50] <odyssey> hmy dvd gives me a nav  packet error
[11:50] <michi> only a bad joke
[11:50] <ubonton> just for gaming
[11:50] <ericz> chip42: http://eric1207.com/Screenshot-Terminal.png
[11:50] <yarr> sorry again but how exactly do i run this easyubuntu thingy
[11:51] <odyssey> trying to watch a legit movie
[11:51] <ubonton> no idea ?
[11:51] <RandolphCarter> odyssey: have you followed the 'Restricted Formats' wiki page?
[11:51] <michi> type this wget thing from the page in the console
[11:51] <ubonton> cannnot run liloconf from a live ubuntu cd ?
[11:51] <michi> @yarr
[11:51] <odyssey> yes but i just upgraded to dapper
[11:52] <mspoula> I have qemu running Windows guest but it won't let me ping or join the domain.
[11:52] <RandolphCarter> odyssey: hmm, you may need to reinstall it - try running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh' (copied from wiki)
[11:52] <yarr> dont answer that i'm retarded
[11:52] <odyssey> will try that
[11:53] <jvai> i was gonna dl bochs
[11:53] <ubonton> how to change fstab under ubuntu
[11:54] <nox-Hand> Hey
[11:54] <ubonton> no admin under live cd ?
[11:54] <michi> yarr : goto easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[11:54] <yarr> yeah i did
[11:54] <soundray> ubonton, sudo gedit /path/etc/fstab
[11:54] <michi> yarr: klick on get easyubuntu
[11:55] <yarr> failed to run easyubuntu.py as user root: child terminated with 1 status
[11:55] <ubonton> thanks soundray
[11:55] <nox-Hand> Where is the Ubuntu equivilant of Gentoo's rc.conf, as I want to change out GDM with Entrance.
[11:55] <ubonton> I ll try that
[11:55] <michi> yarr: start terminal
[11:55] <crimsun> nox-Hand: just change /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:55] <yarr> alright?
[11:55] <crimsun> nox-Hand: as in edit the content
[11:56] <mikejjj> what do you decompress rars with
[11:56] <michi> yarr: and type this wget ..... an so on
[11:56] <crimsun> !info unrar-nonfree
[11:56] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[11:56] <yarr> i got it man i'm just trying to run it now
[11:56] <Samuli^> mikejjj, archive manager.
[11:56] <yarr> it's already extracted and stuff
[11:56] <yarr> :)
[11:56] <nox-Hand> crimsun, Thanks
[11:56] <michi> yarr: and?
[11:56] <mikejjj> you da bomb
[11:56] <yarr> i got that error i showed you
[11:56] <michi> me? lol
[11:56] <michi> :D
[11:57] <mario> oj
[11:57] <Emmett_Studio> totally killed her
[11:58] <skwid_> hum that's weird
[11:58] <skwid_> if i lauch rythmbox i have sound
[11:58] <skwid_> then i lauch flash player
[11:58] <skwid_> no sound
[11:58] <skwid_> if i do the opposite
[11:58] <skwid_> i have sound on flash, but not on rythmbox
[11:58] <skwid_> any ideas ?
[11:58] <Samuli^> ahh.. you probably have problems with esd.
[11:58] <Samuli^> check the wiki on how to set up sound.
[11:58] <skwid_> ok
[11:58] <skwid_> thanks
[11:59] <mikejjj> archive manager finds the folder i want, but it doesnt see the .rars.. interesting
[11:59] <UKMatt> can someone remind me how to install a .run?
[11:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell skwid_ about flash
[11:59] <Samuli^> btw, here's an idea for people who don't use printers or bluetooth.. remove cupsys and bluez-stuff.
[11:59] <Samuli^> Made my boot _a lot_ faster.
[12:00] <_jason> UKMatt: what are you trying to install?