| kwwii | ok, new kdm art | 12:05 |
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| Riddell | kwwii: oh? | 12:06 |
| Riddell | mornfall: are you going to debconf? | 12:06 |
| kwwii | Riddell: when you are done eating your soup, check out: http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu-new2a-flatfinal.png and http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu-kdmnewest_bg.png | 12:07 |
| freeflying | Riddell: any cluses on skim crash on livecd? | 12:09 |
| dereks | is the meeting over? | 12:12 |
| Riddell | freeflying: nope, how to I recreate it | 12:12 |
| Riddell | dereks: mostly | 12:12 |
| dereks | Riddell: care to help now :) | 12:12 |
| Riddell | kwwii: ooh, shiny new kdm backgrounds | 12:13 |
| freeflying | Riddell: heh, maybe I give you th CD I've made | 12:13 |
| Riddell | dereks: what are those URLs again? | 12:14 |
| Riddell | kwwii: how do the colours on that background match with the colours on the bubbles background? | 12:15 |
| dereks | i am trying to upgrade from breezy to dapper and it isn't going well :(.My sources.list is found at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13799 the output of my dist-upgrade is at: http://slovin.us/test and when i just try to install kubuntu-desktop i get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13796 | 12:15 |
| dereks | Riddell: thats the whole msg :) | 12:15 |
| kwwii | Riddel, they are somewhat reversed | 12:15 |
| kwwii | the dark in the kdm is where the light in the bg is | 12:15 |
| kwwii | perhaps I b0rked something though, let me check | 12:16 |
| kwwii | Riddell: yeah, I guess I messed something up somewhere | 12:17 |
| kwwii | Riddell: one second | 12:18 |
| kwwii | thanks for noticing, btw | 12:18 |
| === Riddell wonders what he noticed | ||
| Riddell | dereks: something funny going on there | 12:18 |
| dereks | Riddell: i noticed that | 12:18 |
| Riddell | dereks: what happens if you do sudo apt-get install wlassistant | 12:18 |
| kwwii | [00:15] <Riddell> kwwii: how do the colours on that background match with the colours on the bubbles background? | 12:18 |
| dereks | Riddell: hold | 12:19 |
| dereks | Riddell: http://slovin.us/test2 | 12:20 |
| dereks | i actually don't have a wireless card, so wlassistant ISN'T necessary | 12:20 |
| Riddell | dereks: are you doing dist-upgrade or upgrade? | 12:22 |
| dereks | dist-upgrade | 12:22 |
| dereks | but same thing happens on upgrade, iirc | 12:22 |
| dereks | lemme check | 12:22 |
| dereks | oh no, on upgrade, the firles are "kept back" instead of installed | 12:23 |
| === kmon leaves, good night | ||
| Riddell | dereks: what happens if you try to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and all the other items listed at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13796 | 12:25 |
| kwwii | Riddell: check out http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu-kdmnewest_bg.png again | 12:25 |
| kmon | kwwii: better :) | 12:27 |
| kmon | and off to bed... | 12:27 |
| kmon | bye | 12:27 |
| kwwii | night | 12:27 |
| kwwii | :-) | 12:27 |
| dereks | Riddell: http://slovin.us/test4 | 12:28 |
| kwwii | now for the stupid buttons | 12:30 |
| kwwii | erm, I thought of something we need to fix | 12:33 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: ping? | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: first video game in history | 12:35 |
| === Tonio_ isn't proud of that joke.... | ||
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I'm there ! | 12:36 |
| Lure | kwwii: how will this look like when streched (do not forget for 1920x1200 of mine ;-))? | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I agree with the proposal changes for kontact.... do you ? | 12:40 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I do - that is what I do first when creating new profile ;-) | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I will implement that tomorrow | 12:40 |
| Lure | Tonio_: [21:58] <Tonio_> added to todo list for "in an hour" ;) | 12:42 |
| Lure | ;-) | 12:42 |
| dereks | Riddell: hm, you have any more ideas? | 12:42 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: okay, I'm doing this now....... | 12:42 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I am just teasing you - no hurry... ;-) | 12:42 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: but that's true ;) | 12:43 |
| kwwii | Lure: that pic is 1920x1200 | 12:46 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: well, I think we should remove and/or move the extra view profiles in konqueror | 12:46 |
| Lure | kwwii: I know, but when it gets resized down to non-wide resolution, will it look bad? | 12:46 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: what do you think? | 12:46 |
| kwwii | Lure: it will not be resized, but cropped | 12:47 |
| kwwii | Lure: and yes, I thought of that :-) | 12:47 |
| Lure | kwwii: right | 12:47 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: yes, I proposed that weeks ago, but I didn't receive a clear answer on that point :) | 12:47 |
| kwwii | Riddell: would it be possible to move most of the funky view profiles to a submenu? | 12:47 |
| kwwii | Riddell: they really are nasty | 12:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: would you be okay to just keep the kubuntu profiles in the list ? | 12:47 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: I think it is time for a definite decision on this one :-) | 12:48 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: true ;) I will prepare a package and send the debdiff to riddell | 12:48 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: be sure to ping him and eventually mail him a 100$ bill (that could help) :) | 12:49 |
| kwwii | hehe | 12:49 |
| kwwii | I'll lbackmail him | 12:49 |
| kwwii | change it, or I will tell claire that I want to stay in a room with him again | 12:49 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I don't find (shame on me) the setting to add text under icons.... | 12:50 |
| Lure | This is just for toolbar (which I do not think is on by default anyhow, isn't it)... | 12:50 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: correct so, if the icons are good you do not need it | 12:50 |
| kwwii | lol | 12:51 |
| kwwii | little art joke | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: hum.... most softwares do use text under icons by default | 12:51 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: sure, I know, but theoretically.... | 12:52 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: but that's true it isn't a kde standard, and btw you get the description for each icon with focus on it | 12:52 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I think that could be set as it is now don't you think ? | 12:52 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I think kwwii is right - it is just may help new users, but not later | 12:53 |
| Lure | just takes space | 12:53 |
| kwwii | if you ask me, the adept notifier needs a nifty rollOver popup like the main panel icons | 12:53 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: with french, that has stupid long words, that makes the main tollbar go over the screen with a 1280 resolution..... | 12:53 |
| Tonio_ | so I'm not adding this one | 12:53 |
| kwwii | not a pop-up, but you get my point | 12:54 |
| kwwii | a big one, like the main menu, etc. | 12:54 |
| kwwii | nicely formatted in html | 12:54 |
| kwwii | or xml, whatever | 12:54 |
| Lure | Tonio_: ok, then reject the bug | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yup, will do | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I also like to group mails by discussion threads | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | that's not easy to find in the config, and most users generally appreciate this | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | no ? | 12:55 |
| Lure | Tonio_: yes, this would be nice to have on by default too | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | okay, adding this | 12:55 |
| allee | Quick question: just saw digikam UVF (debian sync) accepted. To whom do I assign the bug now so the sync happens? | 12:55 |
| allee | https://launchpad.net/bugs/44102 | 12:56 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 44102 in digikam "UVF to sync digikam 0.8.1+0.8.2-rc1-1 from debian" [Normal,Confirmed] | 12:56 |
| Lure | allee: if universe, to any MOTU | 12:56 |
| Lure | allee: hint - Tonio_ is still here ;-) | 12:56 |
| allee | MOTU's ping ping ;) | 12:56 |
| allee | Tonio_: ^^^^ | 12:57 |
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| Tonio_ | allee: my mentor ? | 12:57 |
| allee | Tonio_: care to sync digikam from debian and upload? digikam UVF was accepted to be sync from debian | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | allee: uploading :) | 12:58 |
| allee | Tonio_: THX | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | allee: can you upload the source package somewhere plz ? | 12:58 |
| allee | http://packages.debian.org/digikam | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | allee: or explain me how can I apply the debdiff :) I never did it so ;) | 12:59 |
| allee | Tonio_: it's simpler to download 0.8.1_0.8.2-rc1-1 and rebuild it ;) | 12:59 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I don't see rc1, only beta2 | 01:00 |
| Tonio_ | allee: same version in testing and unstable | 01:00 |
| allee | Oh, not yet uptodate? checking .. | 01:00 |
| Tonio_ | allee: thx | 01:00 |
| Riddell | dereks: what happens if you sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2a ? | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I'm downloading there http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/ | 01:02 |
| Riddell | kwwii, Tonio_ view profiles? | 01:02 |
| allee | Tonio_: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/digikam/ | 01:03 |
| kwwii | Riddell: konqi view profiles | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes, there are too many profiles, that's unusefull and confusing | 01:03 |
| kwwii | we have wayyyyy tooooooo manyyyyy | 01:03 |
| allee | Tonio_: please use debian archive. Not that mine and Mark md5sum of the tar ball differ again | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | allee: should I wait for sync then ? | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I think you also agree concerning the konq profiles no ? | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | that's a discussion we had long time ago :) | 01:04 |
| dereks | Riddell: i just tried that :) lemme get you the results | 01:04 |
| kwwii | anyone with half a brain only needs the kubuntu stuff, that is why we make them | 01:05 |
| allee | Tonio_: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/digikam/ has all 0.8.1_0.8.2-rc1-1 .diff .dsc and orig.tar.gz | 01:05 |
| Riddell | kwwii, Tonio_: oh those. scrap them if you want | 01:05 |
| kwwii | the others are for geeks | 01:05 |
| kwwii | move the geek stuff away, or make it a submenu item | 01:05 |
| Riddell | but don't blame me when someone says "I've been using KDE since 1996 and I've always used the midnight commander profile in konqueror, how dare you remove it" | 01:05 |
| dereks | Riddell: http://slovin.us/test5 | 01:05 |
| kwwii | Riddell: just move it to a "developer profiles" submenu | 01:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: great, will patch kdebase and send you debdiff | 01:06 |
| kwwii | or "advanced user profiles" | 01:06 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: or simply remove them....... developpers are capable to make their own profiles for sure | 01:07 |
| allee | oh, I need to go to bed. Have to stand up early! | 01:07 |
| allee | nite | 01:07 |
| kwwii | that is true, although the profile creation process is totally unusable crap | 01:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well 9 years old user is certainly fine to recreate it by himself no ? | 01:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I can split that to a new package 'konqueror-extraprofiles" | 01:08 |
| Tonio_ | that's a third solution | 01:08 |
| Tonio_ | I like this third one | 01:08 |
| kwwii | true | 01:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: are you fine with this ? | 01:08 |
| kwwii | is there any kind of developer meta-package thing? | 01:08 |
| kwwii | it could be added there, if so | 01:09 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: don't think so, but that could be done with edgy | 01:09 |
| kwwii | that is one thing I miss from suse | 01:09 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: requires to many changes 3 weeks before release | 01:09 |
| kwwii | selecting "development environement" and getting everything I needed | 01:09 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: note that for paris ;) | 01:09 |
| kwwii | I should start a list | 01:10 |
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| Tonio_ | kwwii: I think the konqueror-extraprofiles is the most reasonnable now | 01:10 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: yeah, me too | 01:10 |
| kwwii | we might add a nifty art-guy profile to that too | 01:10 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: just get rid of them | 01:12 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: or put them in a directory that isn't scanned by default | 01:13 |
| kwwii | I am getting the feeling that a base lib has endianess problems | 01:14 |
| kwwii | all kinds of apps make funky screenshots | 01:14 |
| kwwii | and krita is funky too | 01:14 |
| kwwii | they all have a yellow tint, which is something new, at least | 01:14 |
| kwwii | usually it is cyan | 01:15 |
| kwwii | but the alpha settings get effected too, so it is something with a 8 number hex code, not just 6 | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 01:15 |
| dereks | Riddell: any more ideas? | 01:16 |
| Riddell | dereks: have you installed anything from outside the normal breezy repositories? | 01:16 |
| dereks | nope | 01:16 |
| dereks | i think i have backports enabled | 01:16 |
| dereks | thats it though | 01:16 |
| Riddell | hmm, that should be ok | 01:16 |
| Riddell | dereks: try apt-get install kdelibs4c2a kword | 01:17 |
| kwwii | ever made a screenshot with a yellow tint and half transparent? I have :-) | 01:18 |
| dereks | Riddell: http://slovin.us/test6 | 01:18 |
| Riddell | dereks: well I'm stuck, it seems to be complaining about various packages but when you actually tell it to explicitly install those packages it doesn't have a problem | 01:19 |
| Riddell | dereks: can you do dpkg --get-selections and e-mail it to jriddell@ubuntu.com | 01:19 |
| dereks | Riddell: can i just post it in the smae place? | 01:19 |
| Riddell | I'll try and recreate what you have | 01:19 |
| Riddell | sure | 01:20 |
| Riddell | otherwise I recomment just doing a dist-upgrade then installing kubuntu-desktop afterwards | 01:20 |
| dereks | Riddell: http://slovin.us/test7 | 01:20 |
| Riddell | thanks | 01:21 |
| dereks | Riddell: you think thats will work (dist-upgrading then installing kubuntu-desktop) | 01:21 |
| Riddell | dereks: I expect so, if it doesn't it'll at least tell us what the problem is | 01:22 |
| dereks | Riddell: hmm | 01:22 |
| dereks | kinda seems risky | 01:23 |
| kwwii | Riddell: are we going to add the new content to the example content package or are we going to creat a new package? | 01:24 |
| Riddell | kwwii: we've just going to add it to the existing package, too late for a new package I'm told | 01:24 |
| kwwii | I would submit the package myself if I knew how to do it | 01:24 |
| kwwii | Riddell: that is what I expected | 01:25 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: would you show me how to build a package sometime soon? | 01:25 |
| kwwii | I am sure I will get it pretty quickly | 01:25 |
| kwwii | but before I read some fucking manual....I'll ask someone | 01:26 |
| kwwii | :-) | 01:26 |
| Riddell | kwwii: add the files, add a changelog entry, make sure they get installed, debuild -S and put the .dsc, and .tar.gz somewhere I can get it to upload | 01:26 |
| kwwii | Riddell: yeah, it is the whole debuild and .dsc stuff that scares me | 01:26 |
| kwwii | Riddell: I have a pbuild working, and somewhat get it | 01:27 |
| kwwii | but need to learn how to do it by doing it once | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: sure, ping me when you have a moment (but that can take a few hours I'm afraid !) | 01:27 |
| kwwii | to I thought Tonio_, as freindly frenchman, would help me | 01:27 |
| kwwii | :-) | 01:27 |
| kwwii | s/to/so | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I will for sure :) | 01:27 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: I will contact you tomorrow :-) | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: nope, girlfriend at home :) | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | and I won't get out of the bed for you :) | 01:28 |
| kwwii | ha! | 01:28 |
| kwwii | what kind of developer are you? | 01:28 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: ok, wanna do it now? | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: a developper that considers sex is prior to development !!! | 01:29 |
| kwwii | Riddell: is it ok to add the 8.9 MB xcf wallpaper file? | 01:29 |
| dereks | Riddell: i am going away from my computer now. is this something that you think is a bug and i shoiuld wait to dist-upgrade/install kubuntu-desktop till it gets sorted out, or do you think this is a problem with my install and I should just go ahead and do it | 01:29 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: replace developer with frenchman | 01:29 |
| kwwii | :-) | 01:29 |
| kwwii | just kidding | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 01:29 |
| Riddell | kwwii: hmm, that's a bit too big | 01:30 |
| kwwii | good that I asked first :-) | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: ping me on sunday or any other day next week | 01:31 |
| kwwii | I am used to that | 01:31 |
| === Tonio_ is very interested with that canonical employement for a sysadmin.... | ||
| kwwii | Tonio_: ok, sunday it is | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | that perfectly feets my cv | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: yep, sunday is nice :) | 01:31 |
| kwwii | shortly after church | 01:32 |
| kwwii | my son wants to be an altar boy | 01:32 |
| kwwii | he said he liked wearing the dress | 01:32 |
| kwwii | not sure if you should laugh, eh? | 01:33 |
| kwwii | :-) | 01:34 |
| kwwii | back to work | 01:34 |
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| OdyX | How wrote desktopguide ? | 02:18 |
| OdyX | How = Who | 02:18 |
| Riddell | jjesse and robotgeek | 02:18 |
| OdyX | Riddell: OK. Thanks. I'm on translating it (800 strings...) and there are funny stuff like "This section needs more love, I dunno anything about printers" | 02:20 |
| OdyX | Riddell: So, If the doc changes again, we (translators) will have to make a funny final rush, and taking the risk of not having translated docs... | 02:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just sent you the kdebase debdiff to remove profiles and a new k-d-s to add a few changes to the default kmailrc settings | 02:39 |
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| OdyX | Tonio_: so you're sleeping... :-D | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | OdyX: I was supposed to.... | 02:53 |
| OdyX | Tonio_: sorry for waking up | 02:53 |
| OdyX | Tonio_: go to bed.. Ya have to be ready for girlfriend tomorrow ;) | 02:54 |
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| bddebian | Hey folks | 03:09 |
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| imbrandon | bddebian, got a sec ? | 03:28 |
| imbrandon | i get a strange error with konsole when i goto "help --> configure Konsole" ( upto date breezy ) have a look at the error message http://imbrandon.sytes.net/weird.png | 03:29 |
| imbrandon | can someone confirm that ( i'll go ahead an file a bug then , or not if its just my install ) | 03:30 |
| OdyX | imbrandon: you did mean "Dapper" ? | 03:31 |
| OdyX | imbrandon: it's not worth reporting bugs for Breezy | 03:31 |
| imbrandon | err dapper , yea sorry kde 3.5.2 | 03:31 |
| OdyX | imbrandon: OK. | 03:31 |
| bddebian | imbrandon: My kubuntu box is at my office :( | 03:32 |
| OdyX | imbrandon: cannot confirm. | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | ahh okie , anyone else give it a quick go? i just was wondering if it was just me , could be becouse i've been installing qt4 libs too | 03:32 |
| OdyX | imbrandon: probably your install... | 03:32 |
| OdyX | could someone REVU thathttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2244 ? | 03:33 |
| imbrandon | k thanks OdyX just dident wanna clutter up launchpad.net for something that was just me probbly | 03:33 |
| OdyX | if possible (I dunno if it is) | 03:33 |
| OdyX | imbrandon: well.. playing with qt4 gives some.... | 03:33 |
| OdyX | fun | 03:33 |
| imbrandon | hehe to say the leaste | 03:33 |
| OdyX | I don't know if it is possible now... but is there any MOTU here? | 03:35 |
| OdyX | I'm wondering about bug 38951 | 03:36 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38951 in kaffeine "Request Kaffeine >=0.8 in Dapper" [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38951 | 03:36 |
| OdyX | Is it possible to REVU and upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2244 or not ? | 03:36 |
| OdyX | FeatureFreeze is blocking ? | 03:36 |
| bddebian | OdyX: An motu can't upload that, kaffiene is a main package | 03:37 |
| OdyX | bddebian: right... Did not thought... | 03:37 |
| OdyX | bddebian: but is there any way to do it or not ? | 03:37 |
| imbrandon | if a uvf is filed and gets accepted | 03:38 |
| bddebian | OdyX: If you can get a main uploader I suppose. And as imbrandon says.. :) | 03:38 |
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| OdyX | well... This is just a wish (and I missed the meeting.. Damn me...) | 03:38 |
| imbrandon | yea me too OdyX , fell asleep | 03:39 |
| imbrandon | guess i'll just read the logs ;) | 03:39 |
| === imbrandon considers apt-get remove konsole and reinstalling kubuntu-desktop | ||
| OdyX | imbrandon: log somewhere ? | 03:40 |
| imbrandon | yea there is supose to be logs of the meetings online , not sure how long after they get updated though | 03:41 |
| imbrandon | on the wiki, lemme get the link | 03:41 |
| imbrandon | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 03:41 |
| bddebian | There's a link in #ubuntu-meetings isn't there? | 03:41 |
| imbrandon | hehe yea thats what i did was join the chan and get it from the topic ;) | 03:42 |
| bddebian | :-) | 03:42 |
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| OdyX | well... log has not been pasted yet... | 03:43 |
| imbrandon | bddebian, wanna upload some dh_iconcache stuff for me after bit? | 03:44 |
| bddebian | Sure | 03:44 |
| imbrandon | k lemme finiash a few upgrades here | 03:44 |
| imbrandon | finish* | 03:44 |
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| imbrandon | jez, removing konsole removes kde-core and kde-base ? | 03:46 |
| bddebian | Wouldn't surprise me | 03:51 |
| bddebian | Is there some kind of KDE configuration utility for samba? | 03:53 |
| freeflying | bddebian: smb4k | 03:54 |
| bddebian | Is that what this bug would be using then? :-) Bug #39541 | 03:55 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 39541 in kde-systemsettings "Adding samba shares writeable doesn't set writeable in smb.config" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39541 | 03:55 |
| freeflying | bddebian: oh, no, smb4k isn't install default, this bug may relate with kcontrol | 03:56 |
| bddebian | Damn I need to get a kubuntu box here at home :-) | 03:57 |
| imbrandon | vmware ;) | 03:58 |
| freeflying | bddebian: use kubntu defaultly :) | 03:59 |
| bddebian | freeflying: Well I'm actually on my work laptop on Windows right now :-) | 03:59 |
| imbrandon | qemu / vmware / xen ;) | 04:00 |
| freeflying | bddebian: heh, you're using win :( | 04:00 |
| bddebian | On Windows? Are you nuts? ;-P | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | hey , i'm almost there my kde looks kinda windowsish ;) | 04:01 |
| bddebian | That's actually my only complaint about the current KDE ;-) | 04:01 |
| imbrandon | as you seen from the ss ;) | 04:01 |
| imbrandon | hey i actualy like the way xp/vista look , i just loke the power of linux ;) | 04:01 |
| imbrandon | and all the other goodies | 04:01 |
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| abattoir | speaking of vmware, anyone receiving an X server error with VMPlayer in dapper? | 04:09 |
| bddebian | Does this make any sense? Bug #39949 | 04:15 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 39949 in kdebase "kdm umask" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39949 | 04:15 |
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| OdyX | bddebian: don't understand any word of that bug report... | 04:25 |
| OdyX | bddebian: in every case. I live in UTC+2, so it's 04:25... Leaving to sleep. | 04:25 |
| OdyX | Bye | 04:25 |
| crimsun | bddebian: erm, that doesn't seem like a kdebase issue at all | 04:26 |
| crimsun | bddebian: if anything, /maybe/ /etc/profile ? | 04:27 |
| imbrandon | abattoir, no ( vmware x server error ) | 04:28 |
| abattoir | imbrandon: ok, thanks. | 04:28 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Aye, that was my thinking | 04:31 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: backstrace of skim crash on livecd(using en_US.UTF-8 locales) http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/201 | 06:21 |
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| Hobbsee | oh shoot! | 07:38 |
| Hobbsee | i missed the meeting! | 07:38 |
| freeflying-ibook | Hobbsee: congrats | 07:39 |
| Hobbsee | heh... | 07:39 |
| Hobbsee | i'll have to find a log of it | 07:39 |
| Hobbsee | ah yes, here we go... | 07:42 |
| Hobbsee | *reads* | 07:42 |
| Hobbsee | heh, i got proposed :P | 07:42 |
| freeflying-ibook | Hobbsee: I remmeber you are in KC now, am I wrong? :) | 07:44 |
| Hobbsee | i wasnt at the meeting - to accept :P | 07:44 |
| Hobbsee | i had an alarm set for it - didnt wake up | 07:44 |
| freeflying-ibook | Hobbsee: you'd give us you phone, then we can wake u up heh | 07:45 |
| Hobbsee | be a bit expensive to call australia...besides, i leave it off for the night.. | 07:46 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: about that blog idea, or on kubuntu site - just make sure you have an RSS feed for it please! | 07:49 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: (whenever you get around to answering in -motu, just ping) | 07:52 |
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| verwilst | hrm, the kde-guidance dualscreen config thingy still is pretty sucky :) | 11:29 |
| verwilst | when i enable the second monitor, X never comes up again | 11:29 |
| verwilst | the only thing i can do is reboot | 11:29 |
| verwilst | ( can't switch to another terminal either, only ctrl - alt - esc seems to work ) | 11:30 |
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| raphink | verwilst: clone or real double screen mode? | 11:45 |
| verwilst | real double | 11:47 |
| verwilst | i just see the usplash logo on both screens | 11:47 |
| verwilst | ( console ) | 11:47 |
| verwilst | it's an nvidia card with 2 17" screens | 11:47 |
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| verwilst | raphink: are you the monitorconfig dude? | 11:53 |
| raphink | nope | 11:57 |
| raphink | _Sime_ is | 11:57 |
| raphink | he's the guidance wizard ;) | 11:59 |
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| _Sime_ | verwilst: do you have a X.org log in /var/log/ from when in crashes? | 12:27 |
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| verwilst | _Sime_: euh, want me to check? | 12:52 |
| verwilst | i'll be back in 30 mins or so | 12:52 |
| verwilst | maybe we can try to solve this then? :) | 12:52 |
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| toma_ | Riddell: did you have an solution for bug 42513 ? I'm seeing that now with latest dapper. | 01:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42513 in cupsys "Trying to Print produces lpr: Bad Request" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42513 | 01:26 |
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| Tm_M | moo | 01:42 |
| Riddell | Tm_M: any luck with floppy patches? | 01:44 |
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| Riddell | toma_: I've not seen that problem | 01:44 |
| toma_ | Riddell: ow, thats baddddd | 01:44 |
| Riddell | are you using cups? | 01:46 |
| toma_ | Riddell: yes | 01:46 |
| Tm_M | No, I lost net connection yesterday morning and what I heard will get it back "during summer" | 01:46 |
| Riddell | ouch | 01:47 |
| Tm_M | just came to tell that, now off before phone bill come too big -> | 01:49 |
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| jjesse | did i miss a good meeting yesterday? | 02:09 |
| jjesse | you guys need to have it at a different time :) | 02:09 |
| freeflying | jjesse: hi | 02:12 |
| jjesse | hiya freeflying | 02:18 |
| freeflying | jjesse: now user need configure when they mount fat32 parts(for CJK users) , if they choose mount those parts when they install the system | 02:20 |
| freeflying | s/need/needn't | 02:20 |
| jjesse | ok | 02:21 |
| freeflying | jjesse: for it was set up using utf8 defautly, so we needn't ptovide howto or guide for CJK users | 02:21 |
| jjesse | freeflying: would you mind writing one as I have never used it before? | 02:23 |
| freeflying | jjesse: what? | 02:23 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: sorry about missing the meeting... | 02:27 |
| jjesse | freeflying: some form of howtwo or guide | 02:28 |
| freeflying | jjesse: you mean mount fat32 partitions? | 02:28 |
| jjesse | freeflying: you menion the need for a guide for CJK users | 02:29 |
| jjesse | freeflying: and since i have no experience with CJK | 02:29 |
| freeflying | jjesse: ok, It's just need add utf8 into fstab like : | 02:31 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: that's ok, we still love you | 02:31 |
| freeflying | /dev/sda1 /media/C vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 | 02:31 |
| freeflying | /dev/hdd5 /media/movie vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 | 02:31 |
| freeflying | /dev/hdd6 /media/music vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 | 02:31 |
| jjesse | Riddell: you guys need to have them at a different time, its 5pm for me, when i head home from work | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i see i got discussed...well, put forward... | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | jjesse: yeah, different time here would be good too - 7am is a horror time :P | 02:31 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: yes, we decided you'd be an idea candidate for the kubuntu council | 02:32 |
| Riddell | jjesse: name a time.. | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: hehe...so i see.. | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: whatever 10pm AEST is | 02:32 |
| freeflying | Riddell: or we choose 22:00UTC | 02:32 |
| jjesse | were is the log of the meeint? | 02:33 |
| jjesse | meeting | 02:34 |
| freeflying | jjesse: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | 02:34 |
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| Hobbsee | freeflying: i'd have trouble making that. mind you, i have trouble with those morning meetings | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | but whatever... | 02:36 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: not bad, not good for me, you know it's 5:00 AM here | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | true | 02:37 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: it's hard to get a right time for all | 02:37 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: i know. what about the 1200UTC or whatever it is that some meetings meet? | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell. Was kwifimanager dependency supposed to be removed? Thank | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | you. | 02:38 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: I'd prefer to 12:00 UTC, but not good for some guys in Euro | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | whatever the recommended one is... | 02:39 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: oh yes, thanks for the reminder | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/bugs/44247 | 02:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 44247 in kdenetwork "Duplicated functionality: There are 2 wifi configuration apps: Kwifimanager & wlassistant" [Normal,Confirmed] | 02:47 |
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| OdyX | Riddell: bug 35582 - What do you think about it ? | 03:05 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 35582 in krita "dapper f5: *.Xcf not correct in krita" [Major,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35582 | 03:05 |
| Riddell | OdyX: kwwii is looking into it | 03:05 |
| OdyX | OK Riddell. Thanks | 03:06 |
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| OdyX | Riddell: one more: bug 40458 <- should not be hard to change... | 03:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 40458 in kdepim "Impossible to import mails" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/40458 | 03:14 |
| Riddell | apt-cache rdepends kmailcvt | 03:16 |
| Riddell | OdyX: you can mark it as fixed | 03:16 |
| OdyX | Riddell: OK "Fix released" ? or "Fix commited" ? | 03:17 |
| OdyX | commited | 03:18 |
| Riddell | released | 03:19 |
| OdyX | woops. OK. | 03:19 |
| Riddell | thanks | 03:20 |
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| bddebian | Morning kubuntites | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | hi bddebian | 03:44 |
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| jjesse | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Kubuntu_2006_5_11 | 04:04 |
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| Hobbsee | boo. | 05:01 |
| Hobbsee | where's tonio? | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | this bug in kmix is annoying! | 05:08 |
| Riddell | probably at work | 05:10 |
| bddebian | Who isn't at work? :-) | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | bah. work's overrated... | 05:11 |
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| bddebian | Is something like kscd's configuration set by panel.ui? | 05:29 |
| Riddell | bddebian: no | 05:32 |
| Riddell | it'll be set by kscdrc | 05:32 |
| bddebian | Hmm, where would that come from in the source? | 05:33 |
| Riddell | it wouldn't | 05:34 |
| Riddell | the kscd source will contain it's configuration | 05:35 |
| Riddell | defaults are in /usr/share/config.kcfg/kscd.kcfg | 05:35 |
| pygi | Riddell, what happened at meeting_ | 05:37 |
| pygi | ? | 05:37 |
| bddebian | Riddell: I know, I'm trying to look at: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kscd/+bug/37963 | 05:37 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 37963 in kscd "song title partially hidden" [Normal,Confirmed] | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | pygi: there are logs :P | 05:37 |
| bddebian | Riddell: Oh, ignore me, I found it | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 05:38 |
| pygi | Hobbsee, and I am so tired that I dont know where the logs lie :) | 05:38 |
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| Hobbsee | pygi: it's in the topic of #ubuntu-meeting | 05:38 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: something fall on your keyboard? ;-) | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: no...but my sound just went wonky again... | 05:39 |
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| bddebian | Anyone have a sec to look at this bug? I can just change the default point to 8 in kscd.kcfg but I don't know if that is the "right" way to do it. | 05:40 |
| bddebian | Err Bug #37963 | 05:40 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 37963 in kscd "song title partially hidden" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/37963 | 05:40 |
| pygi | Riddell: o nice, we got a council :) | 05:42 |
| Riddell | bddebian: hmm, confirmed | 05:42 |
| Riddell | bddebian: seems as good a way as any | 05:42 |
| bddebian | Riddell: OK, thx, I'll post a patch | 05:43 |
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| Hobbsee | oh darn. you cant seem to grab old versions of kernels... | 05:50 |
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| pygi | o abattoir :P | 05:56 |
| abattoir | hi pygi :) | 05:57 |
| abattoir | what's up? | 05:57 |
| abattoir | bogged down w/ hundreds of apps? ;) | 05:57 |
| pygi | indeed, commented/ranked all :) | 05:58 |
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| abattoir | pygi: fun job indeed... | 05:59 |
| Hobbsee | how...interesting... | 05:59 |
| pygi | Hobbsee, ? | 05:59 |
| Hobbsee | pygi: i've just discovered that my sound seems to be buggered on the -686 kernel, but not the -386 | 05:59 |
| Hobbsee | it will be interesting to see if ndiswrapper is somehow the culprit, or something else. | 06:00 |
| pygi | Hobbsee, heh :-/ | 06:00 |
| pygi | abattoir, indeed :) | 06:00 |
| Hobbsee | crud. it's 2am... | 06:00 |
| abattoir | pygi: got info about slots yet? | 06:02 |
| pygi | abattoir, even if I do, cant tell :) | 06:02 |
| abattoir | oh... hehe sorry. | 06:02 |
| bddebian | OK, uploaded a patch for #37963 if any of you care to upload. Thx | 06:03 |
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| bddebian | This looks like an old one and is assigned to Riddell?? Bug #14806 | 06:18 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 14806 in kdewebdev "Quanta 3.4 cannot find ispell" [Minor,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/14806 | 06:18 |
| Riddell | bddebian: if it's fixed close it | 06:18 |
| bddebian | It's for Hoary? | 06:19 |
| bddebian | Closed it | 06:33 |
| Riddell | thanks | 06:33 |
| bddebian | I'm here to serve :-) | 06:34 |
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| rclogger | anyone around who knows howto get a proper 'export PATH=$(QTDIR)/bin:$(PATH)' done in a package's rules file? | 07:19 |
| Riddell | rclogger: debian systems don't really use QTDIR | 07:22 |
| rclogger | Riddell: it is a selfdefined variable | 07:24 |
| rclogger | once again I try to fix that exscalibar issue | 07:24 |
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| bddebian | Is 3.5.2 in Breezy too? | 07:40 |
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| OculusAquilae | bddebian: kde? | 07:45 |
| bddebian | Aye | 07:45 |
| OculusAquilae | breezy comes with kde 3.4.3 | 07:45 |
| bddebian | I know but wasn't 3.5.2 backported to breezy? I thought I saw that somewhere? | 07:45 |
| OculusAquilae | hm | 07:46 |
| bddebian | Not that important, I rejected the bug for Dapper and backported the bug to Breezy anyway :-) | 07:46 |
| OculusAquilae | http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352/ | 07:46 |
| OculusAquilae | thats the backport | 07:46 |
| OculusAquilae | http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php -- Announcement | 07:47 |
| bddebian | Yeah, thx | 07:47 |
| OculusAquilae | np :) | 07:47 |
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| bddebian | WTH is kynaptic? Bug #15509 | 08:02 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 15509 in kynaptic "kynapsis confirm window too small (buttons invisible)" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/15509 | 08:02 |
| apachelogger | kde version of synaptic | 08:03 |
| apachelogger | people told me that it actually is based on the same codebase | 08:03 |
| apachelogger | though it is missing features of features of features | 08:04 |
| bddebian | I don't even see a package for it anywhere | 08:05 |
| apachelogger | bddebian: probably has been dropped for dapper since it is **** | 08:07 |
| apachelogger | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kynaptic&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all | 08:07 |
| bddebian | apachelogger: Thx | 08:08 |
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| toma | evening | 08:13 |
| bddebian | Hello toma | 08:13 |
| bddebian | Hi Lure | 08:13 |
| Lure | hi bddebian | 08:13 |
| Lure | hi toma | 08:13 |
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| toma | does anyone have any links to pages where i can read about edubuntu's council? | 08:25 |
| Lure | toma: I do not think there is anything, besides the announcement | 08:27 |
| Lure | toma: and meeting logs | 08:27 |
| toma | Lure: o, is the announcement informative? | 08:27 |
| Lure | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-May/000078.html | 08:29 |
| toma | Lure: thanks! | 08:32 |
| bddebian | Ack some of these bugs are old/goofy :-( | 08:33 |
| bddebian | And I'm probably doing the wrong things with them :-( | 08:33 |
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| toma | Lure: nice pointers to other relevant info there... | 08:37 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: is it a big problem if exscalibar's includes and libs aren't stored in /usr as prefix? | 08:50 |
| apachelogger | somehow excalibar won't work when they aren't stored in /usr/share/qt3 | 08:51 |
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| bddebian | Riddell: Are you around by any chance? | 09:29 |
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| mdke | Riddell: ici? | 09:38 |
| bddebian | ici? | 09:40 |
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| Riddell | bddebian: hi | 10:12 |
| bddebian | Riddell: Hi. Am I making bad calls on some of these bugs? | 10:13 |
| seaLne | very weird problem i just noticed the automated amarok crash email tried to send to amarok-backtraces@lists.sf.netsde anyone else seen that or did something random happen, its possible it grabbed focus while i was typing i suppose | 10:17 |
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| Riddell | mdke: oui | 10:20 |
| Riddell | bddebian: I don't know, I've not been reading bug mail today | 10:20 |
| bddebian | Riddell: OK, well slap me if you catch something stupid I have done :-) | 10:20 |
| Riddell | sure | 10:21 |
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| Sime | has anyone tried playing an mp3 using any kde program lately? | 10:26 |
| Sime | none of the kde players work here | 10:26 |
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| pygi | Sime: ugh :-/ | 10:28 |
| Sime | notification sounds work fine. mp3s don't | 10:28 |
| Sime | not in kaboodle | 10:28 |
| Sime | not in juk | 10:29 |
| seaLne | Sime: i have xine engine problems with amarok and xmms killed my machine a few hours ago but probably unrelated | 10:29 |
| Sime | .xsession-errors say: juk: ERROR: Couldn't resolve the mime type of "" -- this shouldn't happen. | 10:30 |
| Sime | noatun also not | 10:30 |
| Riddell | you need libakode2-mpeg and libarts1-mpeglib | 10:31 |
| Sime | still not working. I'm going to log out/in again first. | 10:35 |
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| Sime | still doesn't work | 10:42 |
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| hiasll | hi! can anybody tell me, how often adept_notifier checks for new updates? it seems, that it doesnt recognise any updates except when doing a sudo apt-get update. | 10:51 |
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| Riddell | hiasll: a file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/15adept-periodic-update turns on a daily cronjob to update it | 10:52 |
| bddebian | Heya \sh | 10:52 |
| \sh | moins | 10:52 |
| \sh | Riddell: cron or anacron? anacron is a better idea :) | 10:53 |
| \sh | just came back home...and tired | 10:53 |
| mdke_ | Riddell: wanted to ask about the doc translations, have you had any luck with them? | 10:55 |
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| Riddell | mdke: I've not had time to look at them :( | 10:56 |
| Riddell | can do first thing on monday | 10:56 |
| mdke | Riddell: it's tricky, I think. | 10:56 |
| mdke | Riddell: that would be good. I'll upload a new snapshot of translations to the repo this weekend | 10:56 |
| bddebian | Should this be rejected? Bug #23013 | 10:59 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 23013 in speedcrunch "Configuration files misplaced" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/23013 | 10:59 |
| \sh | raphink: great blog article about LT :) thx :) | 10:59 |
| raphink | \sh: :) | 10:59 |
| hiasll | Riddell: but is there an interval which can be configured? | 11:01 |
| \sh | and I have to say that I should wear pigtails more often ;) | 11:01 |
| Riddell | hiasll: /etc/cron.daily/apt | 11:01 |
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| hiasll | Riddell: thanks, i looked for adept... | 11:02 |
| raphink | \sh: feel free to leave comments :) | 11:14 |
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| \sh | raphink: how much traffic did you waste for the video until now? | 11:16 |
| raphink | no idea \sh | 11:16 |
| raphink | haven't checked | 11:16 |
| \sh | raphink: comment done ;) | 11:19 |
| raphink | hehe great | 11:19 |
| raphink | let's see | 11:19 |
| \sh | ok..people..going to bed now..had a 55 hour week | 11:22 |
| \sh | cu tomorrow :) | 11:22 |
| raphink | good night \sh | 11:22 |
| bddebian | Yeah I gotta head home. Later folks | 11:24 |
| raphink | night bddebian | 11:24 |
| Lure | raphink: I just saw in your gallery that you sail too - I am just packing for tommorow... ;-) | 11:25 |
| raphink | oh great | 11:25 |
| Lure | raphink: and good report from LT | 11:25 |
| raphink | I'm getting a job on the French Riviera (hopefully signing on monday) | 11:25 |
| raphink | and I hope to enjoy sailing there | 11:25 |
| raphink | thanks Lure | 11:26 |
| raphink | I love sailing :) | 11:26 |
| Lure | raphink: that is great - just rent a sailboat instead of appartement ;-) | 11:26 |
| raphink | heh good idea indeed | 11:26 |
| raphink | hadn't thought of that | 11:26 |
| raphink | but it might be expensive | 11:26 |
| raphink | and not very convenient to get ready in the morning | 11:26 |
| raphink | but well, why not ;) | 11:26 |
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| Lure | hi Tonio_ | 11:28 |
| raphink | re Tonio_ | 11:28 |
| Lure | Sys Setting looks much better today ;-) | 11:28 |
| raphink | hehe :) | 11:28 |
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| Lure | anyway - I have to go - see you in a week and happy bug hunting! | 11:30 |
| raphink | have a great time, sailor :) | 11:30 |
| Lure | raphink: will have for sure - thanks! | 11:31 |
| raphink | bye :) | 11:31 |
| raphink | sail safe :) | 11:31 |
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