[12:05] ok, new kdm art [12:06] kwwii: oh? [12:06] mornfall: are you going to debconf? [12:07] Riddell: when you are done eating your soup, check out: http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu-new2a-flatfinal.png and http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu-kdmnewest_bg.png [12:09] Riddell: any cluses on skim crash on livecd? [12:12] is the meeting over? [12:12] freeflying: nope, how to I recreate it [12:12] dereks: mostly [12:12] Riddell: care to help now :) [12:13] kwwii: ooh, shiny new kdm backgrounds [12:13] Riddell: heh, maybe I give you th CD I've made [12:14] dereks: what are those URLs again? [12:15] kwwii: how do the colours on that background match with the colours on the bubbles background? [12:15] i am trying to upgrade from breezy to dapper and it isn't going well :(.My sources.list is found at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13799 the output of my dist-upgrade is at: http://slovin.us/test and when i just try to install kubuntu-desktop i get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13796 [12:15] Riddell: thats the whole msg :) [12:15] Riddel, they are somewhat reversed [12:15] the dark in the kdm is where the light in the bg is [12:16] perhaps I b0rked something though, let me check [12:17] Riddell: yeah, I guess I messed something up somewhere [12:18] Riddell: one second [12:18] thanks for noticing, btw === Riddell wonders what he noticed [12:18] dereks: something funny going on there [12:18] Riddell: i noticed that [12:18] dereks: what happens if you do sudo apt-get install wlassistant [12:18] [00:15] kwwii: how do the colours on that background match with the colours on the bubbles background? [12:19] Riddell: hold [12:20] Riddell: http://slovin.us/test2 [12:20] i actually don't have a wireless card, so wlassistant ISN'T necessary [12:22] dereks: are you doing dist-upgrade or upgrade? [12:22] dist-upgrade [12:22] but same thing happens on upgrade, iirc [12:22] lemme check [12:23] oh no, on upgrade, the firles are "kept back" instead of installed === kmon leaves, good night [12:25] dereks: what happens if you try to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and all the other items listed at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13796 [12:25] Riddell: check out http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu-kdmnewest_bg.png again [12:27] kwwii: better :) [12:27] and off to bed... [12:27] bye [12:27] night [12:27] :-) [12:28] Riddell: http://slovin.us/test4 [12:30] now for the stupid buttons [12:33] erm, I thought of something we need to fix [12:33] Tonio_: ping? [12:35] kwwii: first video game in history === Tonio_ isn't proud of that joke.... [12:36] kwwii: I'm there ! [12:38] kwwii: how will this look like when streched (do not forget for 1920x1200 of mine ;-))? [12:40] Lure: I agree with the proposal changes for kontact.... do you ? [12:40] Tonio_: I do - that is what I do first when creating new profile ;-) [12:40] Lure: I will implement that tomorrow [12:42] Tonio_: [21:58] added to todo list for "in an hour" ;) [12:42] ;-) [12:42] Riddell: hm, you have any more ideas? [12:42] Lure: okay, I'm doing this now....... [12:42] Tonio_: I am just teasing you - no hurry... ;-) [12:43] Lure: but that's true ;) [12:46] Lure: that pic is 1920x1200 [12:46] Tonio_: well, I think we should remove and/or move the extra view profiles in konqueror [12:46] kwwii: I know, but when it gets resized down to non-wide resolution, will it look bad? [12:46] Tonio_: what do you think? [12:47] Lure: it will not be resized, but cropped [12:47] Lure: and yes, I thought of that :-) [12:47] kwwii: right [12:47] kwwii: yes, I proposed that weeks ago, but I didn't receive a clear answer on that point :) [12:47] Riddell: would it be possible to move most of the funky view profiles to a submenu? [12:47] Riddell: they really are nasty [12:47] Riddell: would you be okay to just keep the kubuntu profiles in the list ? [12:48] Tonio_: I think it is time for a definite decision on this one :-) [12:48] kwwii: true ;) I will prepare a package and send the debdiff to riddell [12:49] kwwii: be sure to ping him and eventually mail him a 100$ bill (that could help) :) [12:49] hehe [12:49] I'll lbackmail him [12:49] change it, or I will tell claire that I want to stay in a room with him again [12:50] Lure: I don't find (shame on me) the setting to add text under icons.... [12:50] This is just for toolbar (which I do not think is on by default anyhow, isn't it)... [12:50] Tonio_: correct so, if the icons are good you do not need it [12:51] lol [12:51] little art joke [12:51] kwwii: hum.... most softwares do use text under icons by default [12:52] Tonio_: sure, I know, but theoretically.... [12:52] kwwii: but that's true it isn't a kde standard, and btw you get the description for each icon with focus on it [12:52] Lure: I think that could be set as it is now don't you think ? [12:53] Tonio_: I think kwwii is right - it is just may help new users, but not later [12:53] just takes space [12:53] if you ask me, the adept notifier needs a nifty rollOver popup like the main panel icons [12:53] Lure: with french, that has stupid long words, that makes the main tollbar go over the screen with a 1280 resolution..... [12:53] so I'm not adding this one [12:54] not a pop-up, but you get my point [12:54] a big one, like the main menu, etc. [12:54] nicely formatted in html [12:54] or xml, whatever [12:54] Tonio_: ok, then reject the bug [12:54] Lure: yup, will do [12:55] Lure: I also like to group mails by discussion threads [12:55] that's not easy to find in the config, and most users generally appreciate this [12:55] no ? [12:55] Tonio_: yes, this would be nice to have on by default too [12:55] okay, adding this [12:55] Quick question: just saw digikam UVF (debian sync) accepted. To whom do I assign the bug now so the sync happens? [12:56] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44102 [12:56] Malone bug 44102 in digikam "UVF to sync digikam 0.8.1+0.8.2-rc1-1 from debian" [Normal,Confirmed] [12:56] allee: if universe, to any MOTU [12:56] allee: hint - Tonio_ is still here ;-) [12:56] MOTU's ping ping ;) [12:57] Tonio_: ^^^^ === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:57] allee: my mentor ? [12:58] Tonio_: care to sync digikam from debian and upload? digikam UVF was accepted to be sync from debian [12:58] allee: uploading :) [12:58] Tonio_: THX [12:58] allee: can you upload the source package somewhere plz ? [12:58] http://packages.debian.org/digikam [12:59] allee: or explain me how can I apply the debdiff :) I never did it so ;) [12:59] Tonio_: it's simpler to download 0.8.1_0.8.2-rc1-1 and rebuild it ;) [01:00] allee: I don't see rc1, only beta2 [01:00] allee: same version in testing and unstable [01:00] Oh, not yet uptodate? checking .. [01:00] allee: thx [01:02] dereks: what happens if you sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2a ? [01:02] allee: I'm downloading there http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/ [01:02] kwwii, Tonio_ view profiles? [01:03] Tonio_: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/digikam/ [01:03] Riddell: konqi view profiles [01:03] Riddell: yes, there are too many profiles, that's unusefull and confusing [01:03] we have wayyyyy tooooooo manyyyyy [01:03] Tonio_: please use debian archive. Not that mine and Mark md5sum of the tar ball differ again [01:03] allee: should I wait for sync then ? [01:04] allee: I think you also agree concerning the konq profiles no ? [01:04] that's a discussion we had long time ago :) [01:04] Riddell: i just tried that :) lemme get you the results [01:05] anyone with half a brain only needs the kubuntu stuff, that is why we make them [01:05] Tonio_: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/digikam/ has all 0.8.1_0.8.2-rc1-1 .diff .dsc and orig.tar.gz [01:05] kwwii, Tonio_: oh those. scrap them if you want [01:05] the others are for geeks [01:05] move the geek stuff away, or make it a submenu item [01:05] but don't blame me when someone says "I've been using KDE since 1996 and I've always used the midnight commander profile in konqueror, how dare you remove it" [01:05] Riddell: http://slovin.us/test5 [01:06] Riddell: just move it to a "developer profiles" submenu [01:06] Riddell: great, will patch kdebase and send you debdiff [01:06] or "advanced user profiles" [01:07] kwwii: or simply remove them....... developpers are capable to make their own profiles for sure [01:07] oh, I need to go to bed. Have to stand up early! [01:07] nite [01:07] that is true, although the profile creation process is totally unusable crap [01:07] Riddell: well 9 years old user is certainly fine to recreate it by himself no ? [01:08] Riddell: I can split that to a new package 'konqueror-extraprofiles" [01:08] that's a third solution [01:08] I like this third one [01:08] true [01:08] Riddell: are you fine with this ? [01:08] is there any kind of developer meta-package thing? [01:09] it could be added there, if so [01:09] kwwii: don't think so, but that could be done with edgy [01:09] that is one thing I miss from suse [01:09] kwwii: requires to many changes 3 weeks before release [01:09] selecting "development environement" and getting everything I needed [01:09] kwwii: note that for paris ;) [01:10] I should start a list === Lure wishes good night -> bed [01:10] kwwii: I think the konqueror-extraprofiles is the most reasonnable now [01:10] Tonio_: yeah, me too [01:10] we might add a nifty art-guy profile to that too [01:12] Tonio_: just get rid of them [01:13] Tonio_: or put them in a directory that isn't scanned by default [01:14] I am getting the feeling that a base lib has endianess problems [01:14] all kinds of apps make funky screenshots [01:14] and krita is funky too [01:14] they all have a yellow tint, which is something new, at least [01:15] usually it is cyan [01:15] but the alpha settings get effected too, so it is something with a 8 number hex code, not just 6 [01:15] Riddell: okay [01:16] Riddell: any more ideas? [01:16] dereks: have you installed anything from outside the normal breezy repositories? [01:16] nope [01:16] i think i have backports enabled [01:16] thats it though [01:16] hmm, that should be ok [01:17] dereks: try apt-get install kdelibs4c2a kword [01:18] ever made a screenshot with a yellow tint and half transparent? I have :-) [01:18] Riddell: http://slovin.us/test6 [01:19] dereks: well I'm stuck, it seems to be complaining about various packages but when you actually tell it to explicitly install those packages it doesn't have a problem [01:19] dereks: can you do dpkg --get-selections and e-mail it to jriddell@ubuntu.com [01:19] Riddell: can i just post it in the smae place? [01:19] I'll try and recreate what you have [01:20] sure [01:20] otherwise I recomment just doing a dist-upgrade then installing kubuntu-desktop afterwards [01:20] Riddell: http://slovin.us/test7 [01:21] thanks [01:21] Riddell: you think thats will work (dist-upgrading then installing kubuntu-desktop) [01:22] dereks: I expect so, if it doesn't it'll at least tell us what the problem is [01:22] Riddell: hmm [01:23] kinda seems risky [01:24] Riddell: are we going to add the new content to the example content package or are we going to creat a new package? [01:24] kwwii: we've just going to add it to the existing package, too late for a new package I'm told [01:24] I would submit the package myself if I knew how to do it [01:25] Riddell: that is what I expected [01:25] Tonio_: would you show me how to build a package sometime soon? [01:25] I am sure I will get it pretty quickly [01:26] but before I read some fucking manual....I'll ask someone [01:26] :-) [01:26] kwwii: add the files, add a changelog entry, make sure they get installed, debuild -S and put the .dsc, and .tar.gz somewhere I can get it to upload [01:26] Riddell: yeah, it is the whole debuild and .dsc stuff that scares me [01:27] Riddell: I have a pbuild working, and somewhat get it [01:27] but need to learn how to do it by doing it once [01:27] kwwii: sure, ping me when you have a moment (but that can take a few hours I'm afraid !) [01:27] to I thought Tonio_, as freindly frenchman, would help me [01:27] :-) [01:27] s/to/so [01:27] kwwii: I will for sure :) [01:28] Tonio_: I will contact you tomorrow :-) [01:28] kwwii: nope, girlfriend at home :) [01:28] and I won't get out of the bed for you :) [01:28] ha! [01:28] what kind of developer are you? [01:28] Tonio_: ok, wanna do it now? [01:29] kwwii: a developper that considers sex is prior to development !!! [01:29] Riddell: is it ok to add the 8.9 MB xcf wallpaper file? [01:29] Riddell: i am going away from my computer now. is this something that you think is a bug and i shoiuld wait to dist-upgrade/install kubuntu-desktop till it gets sorted out, or do you think this is a problem with my install and I should just go ahead and do it [01:29] Tonio_: replace developer with frenchman [01:29] :-) [01:29] just kidding [01:29] hehe [01:30] kwwii: hmm, that's a bit too big [01:31] good that I asked first :-) [01:31] kwwii: ping me on sunday or any other day next week [01:31] I am used to that === Tonio_ is very interested with that canonical employement for a sysadmin.... [01:31] Tonio_: ok, sunday it is [01:31] that perfectly feets my cv [01:31] kwwii: yep, sunday is nice :) [01:32] shortly after church [01:32] my son wants to be an altar boy [01:32] he said he liked wearing the dress [01:33] not sure if you should laugh, eh? [01:34] :-) [01:34] back to work === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-195-177.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [02:18] How wrote desktopguide ? [02:18] How = Who [02:18] jjesse and robotgeek [02:20] Riddell: OK. Thanks. I'm on translating it (800 strings...) and there are funny stuff like "This section needs more love, I dunno anything about printers" [02:21] Riddell: So, If the doc changes again, we (translators) will have to make a funny final rush, and taking the risk of not having translated docs... [02:39] Riddell: just sent you the kdebase debdiff to remove profiles and a new k-d-s to add a few changes to the default kmailrc settings === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:53] Tonio_: so you're sleeping... :-D [02:53] OdyX: I was supposed to.... [02:53] Tonio_: sorry for waking up [02:54] Tonio_: go to bed.. Ya have to be ready for girlfriend tomorrow ;) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:09] Hey folks === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:28] bddebian, got a sec ? [03:29] i get a strange error with konsole when i goto "help --> configure Konsole" ( upto date breezy ) have a look at the error message http://imbrandon.sytes.net/weird.png [03:30] can someone confirm that ( i'll go ahead an file a bug then , or not if its just my install ) [03:31] imbrandon: you did mean "Dapper" ? [03:31] imbrandon: it's not worth reporting bugs for Breezy [03:31] err dapper , yea sorry kde 3.5.2 [03:31] imbrandon: OK. [03:32] imbrandon: My kubuntu box is at my office :( [03:32] imbrandon: cannot confirm. [03:32] ahh okie , anyone else give it a quick go? i just was wondering if it was just me , could be becouse i've been installing qt4 libs too [03:32] imbrandon: probably your install... [03:33] could someone REVU thathttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2244 ? [03:33] k thanks OdyX just dident wanna clutter up launchpad.net for something that was just me probbly [03:33] if possible (I dunno if it is) [03:33] imbrandon: well.. playing with qt4 gives some.... [03:33] fun [03:33] hehe to say the leaste [03:35] I don't know if it is possible now... but is there any MOTU here? [03:36] I'm wondering about bug 38951 [03:36] Malone bug 38951 in kaffeine "Request Kaffeine >=0.8 in Dapper" [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38951 [03:36] Is it possible to REVU and upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2244 or not ? [03:36] FeatureFreeze is blocking ? [03:37] OdyX: An motu can't upload that, kaffiene is a main package [03:37] bddebian: right... Did not thought... [03:37] bddebian: but is there any way to do it or not ? [03:38] if a uvf is filed and gets accepted [03:38] OdyX: If you can get a main uploader I suppose. And as imbrandon says.. :) === _jdong [n=jdong@d149-67-101-201.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:38] well... This is just a wish (and I missed the meeting.. Damn me...) [03:39] yea me too OdyX , fell asleep [03:39] guess i'll just read the logs ;) === imbrandon considers apt-get remove konsole and reinstalling kubuntu-desktop [03:40] imbrandon: log somewhere ? [03:41] yea there is supose to be logs of the meetings online , not sure how long after they get updated though [03:41] on the wiki, lemme get the link [03:41] Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ [03:41] There's a link in #ubuntu-meetings isn't there? [03:42] hehe yea thats what i did was join the chan and get it from the topic ;) [03:42] :-) === OdyX hides. [03:43] well... log has not been pasted yet... [03:44] bddebian, wanna upload some dh_iconcache stuff for me after bit? [03:44] Sure [03:44] k lemme finiash a few upgrades here [03:44] finish* === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:46] jez, removing konsole removes kde-core and kde-base ? [03:51] Wouldn't surprise me [03:53] Is there some kind of KDE configuration utility for samba? [03:54] bddebian: smb4k [03:55] Is that what this bug would be using then? :-) Bug #39541 [03:55] Malone bug 39541 in kde-systemsettings "Adding samba shares writeable doesn't set writeable in smb.config" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39541 [03:56] bddebian: oh, no, smb4k isn't install default, this bug may relate with kcontrol [03:57] Damn I need to get a kubuntu box here at home :-) [03:58] vmware ;) [03:59] bddebian: use kubntu defaultly :) [03:59] freeflying: Well I'm actually on my work laptop on Windows right now :-) [04:00] qemu / vmware / xen ;) [04:00] bddebian: heh, you're using win :( [04:00] On Windows? Are you nuts? ;-P [04:01] hey , i'm almost there my kde looks kinda windowsish ;) [04:01] That's actually my only complaint about the current KDE ;-) [04:01] as you seen from the ss ;) [04:01] hey i actualy like the way xp/vista look , i just loke the power of linux ;) [04:01] and all the other goodies === OdyX warned all reporters for kaffeine bugs: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bugs [04:09] speaking of vmware, anyone receiving an X server error with VMPlayer in dapper? [04:15] Does this make any sense? Bug #39949 [04:15] Malone bug 39949 in kdebase "kdm umask" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39949 === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-91-114.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:25] bddebian: don't understand any word of that bug report... [04:25] bddebian: in every case. I live in UTC+2, so it's 04:25... Leaving to sleep. [04:25] Bye [04:26] bddebian: erm, that doesn't seem like a kdebase issue at all [04:27] bddebian: if anything, /maybe/ /etc/profile ? [04:28] abattoir, no ( vmware x server error ) [04:28] imbrandon: ok, thanks. [04:31] crimsun: Aye, that was my thinking === pradeepto_ [n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-12-173.maa.sify.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hendry [n=hendry@222.106.128.78] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:21] Riddell: backstrace of skim crash on livecd(using en_US.UTF-8 locales) http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/201 === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-195-177.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-88-131.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:38] oh shoot! [07:38] i missed the meeting! [07:39] Hobbsee: congrats [07:39] heh... [07:39] i'll have to find a log of it [07:42] ah yes, here we go... [07:42] *reads* [07:42] heh, i got proposed :P [07:44] Hobbsee: I remmeber you are in KC now, am I wrong? :) [07:44] i wasnt at the meeting - to accept :P [07:44] i had an alarm set for it - didnt wake up [07:45] Hobbsee: you'd give us you phone, then we can wake u up heh [07:46] be a bit expensive to call australia...besides, i leave it off for the night.. === _Sime_ [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:49] Riddell: about that blog idea, or on kubuntu site - just make sure you have an RSS feed for it please! 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[11:47] real double [11:47] i just see the usplash logo on both screens [11:47] ( console ) [11:47] it's an nvidia card with 2 17" screens === Nookie [n=info@h12n1fls32o1010.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:53] raphink: are you the monitorconfig dude? [11:57] nope [11:57] _Sime_ is [11:59] he's the guidance wizard ;) === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-129-128.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:27] <_Sime_> verwilst: do you have a X.org log in /var/log/ from when in crashes? === PascalFr [n=PascalFr@ATuileries-152-1-28-6.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:52] _Sime_: euh, want me to check? [12:52] i'll be back in 30 mins or so [12:52] maybe we can try to solve this then? :) === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma_ [n=toma@ip70.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:26] Riddell: did you have an solution for bug 42513 ? I'm seeing that now with latest dapper. [01:26] Malone bug 42513 in cupsys "Trying to Print produces lpr: Bad Request" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42513 === Tm_M [n=tm_travo@85-156-5-119.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:42] moo [01:44] Tm_M: any luck with floppy patches? === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:44] toma_: I've not seen that problem [01:44] Riddell: ow, thats baddddd [01:46] are you using cups? [01:46] Riddell: yes [01:46] No, I lost net connection yesterday morning and what I heard will get it back "during summer" [01:47] ouch [01:49] just came to tell that, now off before phone bill come too big -> === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-061-112.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] did i miss a good meeting yesterday? [02:09] you guys need to have it at a different time :) [02:12] jjesse: hi [02:18] hiya freeflying [02:20] jjesse: now user need configure when they mount fat32 parts(for CJK users) , if they choose mount those parts when they install the system [02:20] s/need/needn't [02:21] ok [02:21] jjesse: for it was set up using utf8 defautly, so we needn't ptovide howto or guide for CJK users [02:23] freeflying: would you mind writing one as I have never used it before? [02:23] jjesse: what? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] Riddell: sorry about missing the meeting... [02:28] freeflying: some form of howtwo or guide [02:28] jjesse: you mean mount fat32 partitions? [02:29] freeflying: you menion the need for a guide for CJK users [02:29] freeflying: and since i have no experience with CJK [02:31] jjesse: ok, It's just need add utf8 into fstab like : [02:31] Hobbsee: that's ok, we still love you [02:31] /dev/sda1 /media/C vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 [02:31] /dev/hdd5 /media/movie vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 [02:31] /dev/hdd6 /media/music vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 [02:31] Riddell: you guys need to have them at a different time, its 5pm for me, when i head home from work [02:31] Riddell: i see i got discussed...well, put forward... [02:31] jjesse: yeah, different time here would be good too - 7am is a horror time :P [02:32] Hobbsee: yes, we decided you'd be an idea candidate for the kubuntu council [02:32] jjesse: name a time.. [02:32] Riddell: hehe...so i see.. [02:32] Riddell: whatever 10pm AEST is [02:32] Riddell: or we choose 22:00UTC [02:33] were is the log of the meeint? [02:34] meeting [02:34] jjesse: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-88-131.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:35] freeflying: i'd have trouble making that. mind you, i have trouble with those morning meetings [02:36] but whatever... [02:36] Hobbsee: not bad, not good for me, you know it's 5:00 AM here [02:37] true [02:37] Hobbsee: it's hard to get a right time for all [02:38] freeflying: i know. what about the 1200UTC or whatever it is that some meetings meet? [02:38] Riddell. Was kwifimanager dependency supposed to be removed? Thank [02:38] you. [02:39] Hobbsee: I'd prefer to 12:00 UTC, but not good for some guys in Euro [02:39] whatever the recommended one is... [02:47] Hobbsee: oh yes, thanks for the reminder [02:47] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/bugs/44247 [02:47] Malone bug 44247 in kdenetwork "Duplicated functionality: There are 2 wifi configuration apps: Kwifimanager & wlassistant" [Normal,Confirmed] === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:05] Riddell: bug 35582 - What do you think about it ? [03:05] Malone bug 35582 in krita "dapper f5: *.Xcf not correct in krita" [Major,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35582 [03:05] OdyX: kwwii is looking into it [03:06] OK Riddell. Thanks === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:14] Riddell: one more: bug 40458 <- should not be hard to change... [03:14] Malone bug 40458 in kdepim "Impossible to import mails" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/40458 [03:16] apt-cache rdepends kmailcvt [03:16] OdyX: you can mark it as fixed [03:17] Riddell: OK "Fix released" ? or "Fix commited" ? [03:18] commited [03:19] released [03:19] woops. OK. 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[05:02] where's tonio? [05:08] this bug in kmix is annoying! [05:10] probably at work [05:10] Who isn't at work? :-) [05:11] bah. work's overrated... === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-246-37.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JakubS_ [n=qba@azk210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:29] Is something like kscd's configuration set by panel.ui? [05:32] bddebian: no [05:32] it'll be set by kscdrc [05:33] Hmm, where would that come from in the source? [05:34] it wouldn't [05:35] the kscd source will contain it's configuration [05:35] defaults are in /usr/share/config.kcfg/kscd.kcfg [05:37] Riddell, what happened at meeting_ [05:37] ? [05:37] Riddell: I know, I'm trying to look at: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kscd/+bug/37963 [05:37] Malone bug 37963 in kscd "song title partially hidden" [Normal,Confirmed] [05:37] pygi: there are logs :P [05:38] Riddell: Oh, ignore me, I found it [05:38] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [05:38] Hobbsee, and I am so tired that I dont know where the logs lie :) === Hobbsee goes nuts. [05:38] pygi: it's in the topic of #ubuntu-meeting [05:38] Hobbsee: something fall on your keyboard? ;-) [05:39] Lure: no...but my sound just went wonky again... === pygi looks [05:40] Anyone have a sec to look at this bug? I can just change the default point to 8 in kscd.kcfg but I don't know if that is the "right" way to do it. [05:40] Err Bug #37963 [05:40] Malone bug 37963 in kscd "song title partially hidden" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/37963 [05:42] Riddell: o nice, we got a council :) [05:42] bddebian: hmm, confirmed [05:42] bddebian: seems as good a way as any [05:43] Riddell: OK, thx, I'll post a patch === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:50] oh darn. you cant seem to grab old versions of kernels... === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-90-229.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:56] o abattoir :P [05:57] hi pygi :) [05:57] what's up? [05:57] bogged down w/ hundreds of apps? ;) [05:58] indeed, commented/ranked all :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:59] pygi: fun job indeed... [05:59] how...interesting... [05:59] Hobbsee, ? [05:59] pygi: i've just discovered that my sound seems to be buggered on the -686 kernel, but not the -386 [06:00] it will be interesting to see if ndiswrapper is somehow the culprit, or something else. [06:00] Hobbsee, heh :-/ [06:00] abattoir, indeed :) [06:00] crud. it's 2am... [06:02] pygi: got info about slots yet? [06:02] abattoir, even if I do, cant tell :) [06:02] oh... hehe sorry. [06:03] OK, uploaded a patch for #37963 if any of you care to upload. Thx === PascalFR_ [n=PascalFr@4-8.252-81.static-ip.oleane.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:18] This looks like an old one and is assigned to Riddell?? Bug #14806 [06:18] Malone bug 14806 in kdewebdev "Quanta 3.4 cannot find ispell" [Minor,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/14806 [06:18] bddebian: if it's fixed close it [06:19] It's for Hoary? [06:33] Closed it [06:33] thanks [06:34] I'm here to serve :-) === dereks [n=derekS@unaffiliated/dereks] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-18-181.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rclogger [n=me@N928P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime_ [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-90-229.singnet.com.sg] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [07:19] anyone around who knows howto get a proper 'export PATH=$(QTDIR)/bin:$(PATH)' done in a package's rules file? [07:22] rclogger: debian systems don't really use QTDIR [07:24] Riddell: it is a selfdefined variable [07:24] once again I try to fix that exscalibar issue === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-90-229.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:40] Is 3.5.2 in Breezy too? === rclogger is now known as apachelogger [07:45] bddebian: kde? [07:45] Aye [07:45] breezy comes with kde 3.4.3 [07:45] I know but wasn't 3.5.2 backported to breezy? I thought I saw that somewhere? [07:46] hm [07:46] Not that important, I rejected the bug for Dapper and backported the bug to Breezy anyway :-) [07:46] http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352/ [07:46] thats the backport [07:47] http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php -- Announcement [07:47] Yeah, thx [07:47] np :) === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:02] WTH is kynaptic? Bug #15509 [08:02] Malone bug 15509 in kynaptic "kynapsis confirm window too small (buttons invisible)" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/15509 [08:03] kde version of synaptic [08:03] people told me that it actually is based on the same codebase [08:04] though it is missing features of features of features [08:05] I don't even see a package for it anywhere [08:07] bddebian: probably has been dropped for dapper since it is **** [08:07] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kynaptic&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all [08:08] apachelogger: Thx === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:13] evening [08:13] Hello toma [08:13] Hi Lure [08:13] hi bddebian [08:13] hi toma === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:25] does anyone have any links to pages where i can read about edubuntu's council? [08:27] toma: I do not think there is anything, besides the announcement [08:27] toma: and meeting logs [08:27] Lure: o, is the announcement informative? [08:29] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-May/000078.html [08:32] Lure: thanks! [08:33] Ack some of these bugs are old/goofy :-( [08:33] And I'm probably doing the wrong things with them :-( === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:37] Lure: nice pointers to other relevant info there... === OdyX [n=Didier@80.33.64.8] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:50] Riddell: is it a big problem if exscalibar's includes and libs aren't stored in /usr as prefix? [08:51] somehow excalibar won't work when they aren't stored in /usr/share/qt3 === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A6398D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian is probably filling up Riddell 's inbox [09:29] Riddell: Are you around by any chance? === marseillai__ [n=marseill@AMarseille-256-1-9-164.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:38] Riddell: ici? [09:40] ici? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === alleeHol [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === alleeHol is now known as allee_ === allee_ is now known as allee === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-251-169.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:12] bddebian: hi [10:13] Riddell: Hi. Am I making bad calls on some of these bugs? [10:17] very weird problem i just noticed the automated amarok crash email tried to send to amarok-backtraces@lists.sf.netsde anyone else seen that or did something random happen, its possible it grabbed focus while i was typing i suppose === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:20] mdke: oui [10:20] bddebian: I don't know, I've not been reading bug mail today [10:20] Riddell: OK, well slap me if you catch something stupid I have done :-) [10:21] sure === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:26] has anyone tried playing an mp3 using any kde program lately? [10:26] none of the kde players work here === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-131-098.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:28] Sime: ugh :-/ [10:28] notification sounds work fine. mp3s don't [10:28] not in kaboodle [10:29] not in juk [10:29] Sime: i have xine engine problems with amarok and xmms killed my machine a few hours ago but probably unrelated [10:30] .xsession-errors say: juk: ERROR: Couldn't resolve the mime type of "" -- this shouldn't happen. [10:30] noatun also not [10:31] you need libakode2-mpeg and libarts1-mpeglib [10:35] still not working. I'm going to log out/in again first. === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:42] still doesn't work === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950A2A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hiasll [n=hiasll@213-229-63-86.static.adsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:51] hi! can anybody tell me, how often adept_notifier checks for new updates? it seems, that it doesnt recognise any updates except when doing a sudo apt-get update. === \sh [n=shermann@unaffiliated/sh/x-000000002] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:52] hiasll: a file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/15adept-periodic-update turns on a daily cronjob to update it [10:52] Heya \sh [10:52] <\sh> moins [10:53] <\sh> Riddell: cron or anacron? anacron is a better idea :) [10:53] <\sh> just came back home...and tired [10:55] Riddell: wanted to ask about the doc translations, have you had any luck with them? === mdke_ is now known as mdke [10:56] mdke: I've not had time to look at them :( [10:56] can do first thing on monday [10:56] Riddell: it's tricky, I think. [10:56] Riddell: that would be good. I'll upload a new snapshot of translations to the repo this weekend [10:59] Should this be rejected? Bug #23013 [10:59] Malone bug 23013 in speedcrunch "Configuration files misplaced" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/23013 [10:59] <\sh> raphink: great blog article about LT :) thx :) [10:59] \sh: :) [11:01] Riddell: but is there an interval which can be configured? [11:01] <\sh> and I have to say that I should wear pigtails more often ;) [11:01] hiasll: /etc/cron.daily/apt === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has left #kubuntu-devel ["goodbye!"] [11:02] Riddell: thanks, i looked for adept... [11:14] \sh: feel free to leave comments :) === raphink likes to have comments on his blog [11:16] <\sh> raphink: how much traffic did you waste for the video until now? [11:16] no idea \sh [11:16] haven't checked [11:19] <\sh> raphink: comment done ;) [11:19] hehe great [11:19] let's see [11:22] <\sh> ok..people..going to bed now..had a 55 hour week [11:22] <\sh> cu tomorrow :) [11:22] good night \sh [11:24] Yeah I gotta head home. Later folks [11:24] night bddebian [11:25] raphink: I just saw in your gallery that you sail too - I am just packing for tommorow... ;-) [11:25] oh great [11:25] raphink: and good report from LT [11:25] I'm getting a job on the French Riviera (hopefully signing on monday) [11:25] and I hope to enjoy sailing there [11:26] thanks Lure [11:26] I love sailing :) [11:26] raphink: that is great - just rent a sailboat instead of appartement ;-) [11:26] heh good idea indeed [11:26] hadn't thought of that [11:26] but it might be expensive [11:26] and not very convenient to get ready in the morning [11:26] but well, why not ;) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:28] hi Tonio_ [11:28] re Tonio_ [11:28] Sys Setting looks much better today ;-) [11:28] hehe :) === Lure has never understood how Regional&accessibility was down there... [11:30] anyway - I have to go - see you in a week and happy bug hunting! [11:30] have a great time, sailor :) [11:31] raphink: will have for sure - thanks! [11:31] bye :) [11:31] sail safe :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-195-177.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel