| ompaul | mdke, back | 01:10 |
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| mdke | ompaul: bed time :) Drop me a mail if you want to talk about anything re: this bot thing | 01:13 |
| ompaul | okay | 01:13 |
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| jsgotangco | good morning | 02:34 |
| Madpilot | hi jsgotangco | 02:39 |
| jsgotangco | hey brian how are you? | 02:48 |
| Madpilot | good - busy | 02:49 |
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| Madpilot | hi all | 07:16 |
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| Burgundavia | salut robitaille | 08:10 |
| robitaille | Hi Burgundavia | 08:16 |
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| jsgotangco | brb | 11:18 |
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| pitti | hi | 11:45 |
| pitti | I have a patch in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-cups-manager/+bug/8023 which I'd like to apply for dapper, but it changes the UI | 11:46 |
| pitti | what's the prefered way to ask the doc team for approval/rejection? I cc'ed ubuntu-doc to the bug and asked, is that fine? | 11:46 |
| rob | the mailing list is the best option | 11:48 |
| pitti | rob: hm, then I have sub first, I guess; thanks | 11:50 |
| rob | no probs | 11:50 |
| rob | best to let mdke know too | 11:50 |
| rob | (he reads the list though) | 11:50 |
| rob | pitti, thanks for the heads up | 11:51 |
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| pitti | rob: sent, btw | 12:13 |
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| jsgotangco | mdke: ping? | 03:25 |
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| mdke | jsgotangco: pong | 08:09 |
| jsgotangco | hey guys | 08:09 |
| jsgotangco | mdke: i already forgot what's on my mind | 08:10 |
| mdke | jsgotangco: np :) | 08:10 |
| mdke | was it the edubuntu guys? | 08:10 |
| jsgotangco | no | 08:10 |
| Burgwork | jsgotangco, I see no reason why not, for both | 08:11 |
| mdke | I'm not particularly comfortable with it, I will follow up on list | 08:11 |
| jsgotangco | hey Burgwork, its been a while | 08:11 |
| jsgotangco | mdke: yes feel free, after all, they are the ones who approached me | 08:12 |
| === mdke nods | ||
| LaserJock | mdke: I talked with them a bit today | 08:12 |
| mdke | LaserJock: right | 08:12 |
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| jsgotangco | we havent been meeting lately so i had it on list instead | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | mdke: I told them they should probably send patches a bit before they become members so they get used to our workflow, etc. | 08:13 |
| === mdke nods | ||
| jsgotangco | yeah i also said its all about patches | 08:14 |
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| mdke | I think basically to have svn access, what we should look for is 1) good English and knowledge of our styleguide 2) familiarity with docbook (sending a few patches that validate), 3) familiarity with svn, and 4) dedication. These two guys obviously have 4), but personally I'd prefer to see some patches before confirming (1-3) | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | mdke: exactly | 08:15 |
| mdke | however, I'm really in favour of edubuntu action in our repo | 08:16 |
| mdke | jsgotangco: are edubuntu docs generally written in docbook? | 08:16 |
| jsgotangco | only mine for now | 08:16 |
| mdke | what other docs are in the distro? who writes them, and in what format? | 08:16 |
| jsgotangco | and LaserJock ported the others | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | just the School Advocacy page | 08:17 |
| mdke | what happened to this cookbook thing? | 08:17 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 08:17 |
| mdke | I see occasionally stuff about it on planet | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | it is on the wiki, no? | 08:17 |
| jsgotangco | it just fizzles out i dunno | 08:17 |
| mdke | not in the distro? | 08:17 |
| jsgotangco | it is cursed probably because i started it lol | 08:18 |
| mdke | heh | 08:18 |
| mdke | ok, so there seems to be no real barrier to edubuntu docs going on in our repo? | 08:18 |
| jsgotangco | mdke: there's really no action except mine and LaserJock's recent commit | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | other than interest, and I think we are taking care of some of that | 08:19 |
| jsgotangco | (on the svn i mean) | 08:19 |
| mdke | right | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | but I think ogra and JaneW are all for it | 08:20 |
| jsgotangco | heck i'll probably be able to beat june 1 to write a realy cookbook of ubuntu food | 08:21 |
| jsgotangco | but that would be like mocking the current effort | 08:21 |
| jsgotangco | :) | 08:21 |
| mdke | LaserJock: all for what? | 08:22 |
| mdke | docs in our repo? | 08:22 |
| jsgotangco | i actually don't see a need that much, a small effort can be done in bzr for now | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | mdke: yeah | 08:23 |
| === robotgeek will start working again after he finds a job :) | ||
| mdke | jsgotangco: I think it would be cool in terms of uniting the efforts on edubuntu with those on the other derivatives | 08:23 |
| jsgotangco | does elmo still have exclusive lock on the svn? or is it also sent now to the tracker | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | i'll be back in ~20-30 min. I gotta drive to work | 08:25 |
| mdke | jsgotangco: tracker? | 08:26 |
| mdke | oh, i see what you mean | 08:26 |
| mdke | yeah, rt for new additions | 08:26 |
| jsgotangco | request tracker of sorts, like how syncs are done now | 08:26 |
| jsgotangco | that's cool | 08:27 |
| Burgwork | jsgotangco, what do you think of getting mdke to work for canonical, as doc team slave?] | 08:27 |
| robotgeek | plus, he doesn't get to say IANAL | 08:27 |
| jsgotangco | i think that's a good idea, he's in london, we're not (and im not even qualified) | 08:27 |
| === jsgotangco is not even canonical-caliber material to even think about himself | ||
| Burgwork | jsgotangco, I am in a major dilemma, because I enjoy my job, but want to work on Ubuntu fulltime and think I can provide something that Canonical wants | 08:29 |
| jsgotangco | Burgwork: me too but im just not confident i guess or probably because i am just too far | 08:29 |
| mdke | Burgwork: since you're already working in a related area, I think you should definitely go for it. It will be great career-wise | 08:29 |
| Burgwork | mdke, my ex said the same thing | 08:30 |
| Burgwork | I don't know, it is too hard to decide | 08:30 |
| jsgotangco | if they decline, at least you still have your job | 08:30 |
| mdke | Burgwork: ex? | 08:30 |
| Burgwork | yep | 08:30 |
| Burgwork | mdke, ex-gf | 08:30 |
| mdke | bummer | 08:30 |
| Burgwork | meh, life happens. Now I get to live the lavalife | 08:31 |
| === mdke nods | ||
| === mdke nods, without really knowing what the lavalife means | ||
| jsgotangco | Burgwork: i dunno, ive been doing linux-related work for 5+ years but i seem to have no direction at all | 08:31 |
| mdke | sounds good tho | 08:31 |
| Burgwork | dating site, cause of much fun | 08:31 |
| Burgwork | true | 08:32 |
| jsgotangco | Burgwork: at least you get to work on something that is associated with them | 08:32 |
| robotgeek | good luck to you Burgwork | 08:34 |
| Burgwork | robotgeek, thanks. I think I have a better than even chance of getting on with Canonical, with my Ubutnu and non-Ubuntu work | 08:34 |
| robotgeek | Burgwork: yup | 08:34 |
| mdke | course you do | 08:34 |
| === robotgeek just got off a phone screen, phew | ||
| Burgwork | I just need to figure out what job I actually want | 08:35 |
| mdke | go for the webmaster thing | 08:35 |
| jsgotangco | yeah do lots of python stuff | 08:35 |
| jsgotangco | :P | 08:35 |
| Burgwork | I lack the skills in programming for that | 08:35 |
| Burgwork | but mark is also looking for marketing people | 08:35 |
| Burgwork | and sales | 08:35 |
| mdke | Burgwork: nah, I don't think programming skills are very high up on the list. You can learn them as you go | 08:36 |
| Burgwork | thing is, I am not certain I want to be a webmaster | 08:36 |
| mdke | I think the classic definition of webmaster doesn't apply, look at what henrik used to do, it's much more varied | 08:37 |
| jsgotangco | i wish i had your confidence, i am culturally bound to feeling not up to par at all | 08:37 |
| mdke | jsgotangco: you shouldn't be like that dude | 08:37 |
| === robotgeek is now coding in the evil propreitery software | ||
| jsgotangco | mdke: i have failed many times before and i am simply a bit too old to fail again | 08:38 |
| Burgwork | jsgotangco, don;t think like that | 08:38 |
| jjesse | hey rob | 08:38 |
| jjesse | wrong ping | 08:38 |
| robotgeek | he jjesse | 08:38 |
| jjesse | robotgeek: evil prorietary (you mean MS ) :") | 08:38 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: that and NI | 08:38 |
| mdke | bbl | 08:39 |
| jsgotangco | robotgeek: heck i even code more evil prorprietary mobile telecom crap | 08:39 |
| jjesse | robotgeek: grin i'm an evil empire network admin for a living :) | 08:39 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: well, i'm having to pick up vb "skills" in a hurry | 08:39 |
| robotgeek | i though C and python were good enough for everyone! | 08:39 |
| jsgotangco | robotgeek: same here sadly, i have to program this IVR crap on VB | 08:40 |
| jsgotangco | because Asterisk is such a crack to configure in a short span of time | 08:40 |
| === jsgotangco wished he had more time to create his Asterisk spec | ||
| jsgotangco | but here i am almost 3am just finished doing a test on VB crap | 08:41 |
| jjesse | hey guys just wanted to let everyone know that i'm switching jobs in two weeks so i might awol for a bit | 08:41 |
| === jsgotangco is most definitely not happy wit this | ||
| === robotgeek is spending about 10 hours a day on finding the right job | ||
| robotgeek | jjesse: great. good luck :) | 08:41 |
| jsgotangco | robotgeek: im in a good paying job but i seem to be not happy | 08:42 |
| jjesse | thanks, don't know if i'll be allowed IRC at new job like i am now :) | 08:42 |
| dsas | You guys are enough to put off people from entering The Real World. :p | 08:42 |
| jsgotangco | dsas: you could always start an entrepreneural career in SecondLife ;) | 08:42 |
| jsgotangco | www.secondlife.com | 08:42 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 08:42 |
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| jjesse | jsgotangco: do you play secondlife? | 08:43 |
| jsgotangco | dsas: i will probably be deemed obsolete in a few more years | 08:43 |
| dsas | jsgotangco: I'd never hear the end of people telling me to get a real job I'm sure. | 08:43 |
| jsgotangco | jjesse: yeah dude, in SL, people pay me to escort them lol | 08:43 |
| dsas | jsgotangco: You make it sound like you're a computer yourself. I'm sure you can renew your skills if need be. | 08:44 |
| jsgotangco | jjesse: for some reason, i always forget to change my linden dollars to real $ | 08:45 |
| jjesse | jsgotangco: that's cool that people can make money in secondlife | 08:45 |
| jsgotangco | strange but true | 08:45 |
| dsas | There's some new-ish mmorpg that you use actual real dollars to play the game, and you can withdraw them at any time. | 08:45 |
| robotgeek | i already spend too much time in front of the computer. i need a Real Life TM | 08:46 |
| jsgotangco | as long as its not invaded by asian in-game resource farmers, it would be fine | 08:46 |
| robotgeek | anyways guy, lunch time for me | 08:47 |
| robotgeek | err, guys | 08:47 |
| jsgotangco | oh well | 08:47 |
| jsgotangco | there's nothing much i can at the moment, except live with what i have :) | 08:48 |
| jsgotangco | can't complain even, i still am capable of paying my bandwidth and my child's education as well as drive a car | 08:49 |
| jsgotangco | yuck this new usplash looks horrid | 08:51 |
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| LaserJock | so who's going to Paris again? jjesse did I see you can't make it? | 09:04 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, not going, due to work | 09:04 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: you're going? | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | well, I heard from a reliable source that I'm sponsored, but I haven't gotten an email quite yet | 09:05 |
| mdke | cool | 09:06 |
| jsgotangco | wow you have a mole! | 09:06 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, is JaneW leaking information again? | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | I have spys everywhere. You guys think that sabdfl is running the show? hehe | 09:06 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: cool, you can add lasers to the city of lights then | 09:07 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: I can neither confirm nor deny... ;-) | 09:07 |
| LaserJock | anyway, if I go I'd like to have some doc discussions | 09:09 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, the issue we have always had is that not enough are there | 09:09 |
| dsas | This time there's not going to be as much discussion though right? Most planning is to be done upfront. | 09:10 |
| Burgwork | it is usually a crazy week of talking | 09:10 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 09:10 |
| jsgotangco | and getting drunk | 09:10 |
| jsgotangco | (if you're with the right people) | 09:11 |
| jsgotangco | at least in paris you'll get drunk with style | 09:11 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I'm not really a drinker, but I better not say that too loud or they won't let me go ;-) | 09:12 |
| mdke | azz, 6 days til translation freeze | 09:13 |
| LaserJock | yikes | 09:14 |
| Burgwork | when is the "We tie Mark's hand behind his back"-freeze? | 09:15 |
| mdke | there isn't one :-( | 09:15 |
| jsgotangco | wow i must be pretty well-stoned its almost 4am and i am still awake | 09:15 |
| mdke | jsgotangco: too much green tea? | 09:16 |
| jsgotangco | mdke: more like too much brain activity going | 09:16 |
| === jsgotangco badly needs a haircut even | ||
| mdke | ah, that's bad | 09:16 |
| mdke | i switch off my brain at 6 sharp | 09:16 |
| jsgotangco | i wish i could afford that | 09:17 |
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| mdke | meh | 09:17 |
| mdke | that was 6am | 09:17 |
| jsgotangco | mdke: those poor clients... | 09:18 |
| mdke | i don't have any :) | 09:18 |
| === jsgotangco definitely isn't living in the right place/timezone | ||
| LaserJock | heh, good thing my wife runs my life. I have to go to bed by midnight or else ;-) | 09:19 |
| LaserJock | keeps me from doing stupid things at 3 or 4 am :-) | 09:20 |
| mdke | yeah, I need my girlfriend back | 09:20 |
| mdke | I have exactly that problem | 09:20 |
| Burgwork | mdke, are you single? | 09:20 |
| mdke | no, she's just away | 09:20 |
| jsgotangco | enjoy being single while you still have it | 09:20 |
| jsgotangco | i will try to sleep | 09:22 |
| jsgotangco | cest la vie | 09:22 |
| mdke | good night | 09:23 |
| jsgotangco | au revoir | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: go to bed, cya :-) | 09:23 |
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| Burgwork | mdke_, do you have connection issues? Is that why I see lots of _ and __ | 10:19 |
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| Burgwork | hmm, that was odd | 10:52 |
| mdke | Burgwork: sometimes yes | 10:55 |
| LaserJock | yeah for tranlations! | 11:23 |
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| Burgwork | mdke, for some reason, xchat closed | 11:28 |
| mdke | Burgwork: ok. | 11:29 |
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