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_jasonmikejjj: have you installed unrar-nonfree?12:00
UKMattamericas army12:00
yarrcan somebody tell me how to run easy ubuntu12:00
Emmett_Studiofirst, get a chicken12:00
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UKMatt_jason, americas army, its a .run12:01
mikejjjno i guess ill do that12:01
ubontonstill in trouble pls some help ?12:01
mikejjjbut the whole non-free thing?12:01
ahmeniEmmett_Studio: will my chicken vendor provide support?12:01
_jasonUKMatt: in general .run indicates it's a file you execute.  You can navigate to the directory and do ./file.run in a terminal.  But when you do this, realize that this file can mess up your box big time if it wants to (since you don't know what the heck it is doing).  Also, removing it later may be difficult if it doesn't provide a script to do so12:01
mikejjjhow about an unrar-free12:01
_jasonubotu: tell mikejjj about rar12:01
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mikejjjty12:01
_jasonmikejjj: it's in multiverse12:01
UKMatt_jason, yup that was it, i just forgot the command ty12:01
mikejjjah gotcha12:01
_jasonmikejjj: unrar-free is almost useless since it doesn't open the latest rar compression, just use nonfree12:02
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mikejjj_jason, you are so, beautiful, to me12:04
_jasonI see...12:04
kbrooksyarr: SUDO (lowercase)12:04
mikejjjin the most hetero linux loving way possible12:04
kbrooksyarr: not GKSUDO12:04
yarrwhat now?12:04
doctormobest be off now, bye12:04
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yarrso i type12:05
yarrsudo easyubuntu12:05
yarrerrr nope12:05
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farruinnkbrooks: that diskmounter script doesn't work for me. It complains about the file_umask and dir_umask options for hfsplus partition12:06
_jasonyarr: sudo ./easyubuntu     if you are in the right place12:06
_jasonyarr: I'm guessing.. if there is a .py at the end, you need that too12:06
nybble-deskhey guys, anyone having problems with random lockups on ubuntu 5.04, 5.10, and dapper using an Asus A7N8X-e12:06
yarrit asks for a password that i can't type in12:07
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_jasonyarr: you just don't see it, but you are entering it12:07
kronozhmm ubuntu handles sd cards nicely, i was expecting it to be a hassale but it was very easy :)12:07
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yarrwhat's the ./ buisness before it12:08
yarri gotta put directory right?12:08
Samuli^it indicates you want to run it.12:08
ubontonwell my pb seems pointless12:08
ubontongot to get some sleep12:08
AlinuxOShello, why whan I want to sign Code Of Conduct I got this message?12:08
AlinuxOS gpg --clearsign coc.txt12:08
AlinuxOSgpg: no default secret key: secret key not available12:08
AlinuxOSgpg: coc.txt: clearsign failed: secret key not available12:08
yarrwell i tried sudo ./easyubuntu.py no dice :/12:08
AlinuxOS?12:08
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ubontonthanks all for having tried12:09
ubontonbye12:09
yarrthanks guys12:09
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Samuli^yarr, maybe use automatix instead?12:09
_jasonyarr: if you have a file like this: /a/b/c   then to execute c you can do /a/b/c  from anywhere, but if you are in a let's say, you can do b/c  since b is in a.  And if you are in b you can just do ./c since . means current directory.  Make sense?12:09
sybaritenok ... so i'm gonna dive into the disgusting area called network printing12:09
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mikejjji need to install 7z to use unrar-nonfree right12:10
sybaritencoz i have a laserprinter which i have only attached to a ubuntu box, and i think i wanna try and print with it from an XP machine too.12:10
yarrahhh i got so much crap open12:10
yarryeah i've done like12:10
_jasonmikejjj: no, 7z is to open 7z files12:10
sybaritenthe question is ... does ubuntu straight out of the box "have" CUPS? coz i presume i am gonna need to install that.12:10
yarri've done like /this/that buisness12:10
_jasonsybariten: yes i believe so12:11
yarroh ok12:11
chip42sybariten: works right out of the box. miraculous12:11
Samuli^yarr, just go to the directory where the whatever.py is and do sudo ./whatever.py12:11
ericzhey, chip42, http://eric1207.com/Screenshot-Terminal.png - the whole "w" "who" thing12:11
Samuli^if that doesn't work.. well. It should :P12:11
jryerpeace out12:11
yarraye12:12
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JKnifeanyone know of a rapter clone for X11?12:12
michiargh I am to stupid for that OS. I need a cigarette ... bye12:12
yarri'm in the folder and i'm doing that but it's not found12:12
Samuli^what does ls show?12:13
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iNikuericz: what's the problem? logged in users not showing in w/who?12:13
yarrls?12:13
Samuli^it equivalent to dir in dos.12:13
ericzyeah, "who" gives no output12:13
chip42ericz: its bizarre. confirm utmp is where it should be and isn't just an empty file. if it is there, maybe examine it with an editor.. its possible its the applications itself. if you came in here complaining about a bunch of other wierd stuff happening as well, i would suggest your machine had been compromised12:13
_jasonit's a command yarr, you just type it12:13
chip42ericz: its suspicious12:13
Samuli^just type ls and you see the files in that directory.12:13
yarrok12:13
Samuli^and make sure you have lower and upper cases right.12:13
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yarrsorry guys i'm really new at this :-/12:14
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Samuli^because unix is case sensitive.12:14
Samuli^it's ok man :)12:14
ericzi don't think it's a security issue, i think i just deleted /var/run/utmp or /var/run/wtmp or something and just recreating them isn't working12:14
yarri feel like an ass lol12:14
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corerunnernothing wrong with the hdd but I checked it in another machine... maybe the ribbon cable12:14
yarrls is just current directory you say?\12:14
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Samuli^yes12:14
chip42ericz: *nod* have you tried a reboot. wondering if that file isn't just recreated12:14
yarrok it's not in the right one then12:15
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iNikuericz: ls -l /var/run/utmp12:15
sybaritenchip42, ok great12:15
ericz-rw-r--r--  1 root root 0 2006-05-11 17:54 /var/run/utmp12:15
Samuli^yarr, and one thing, make use of the tabulator.12:15
_jasonyarr: what does 'pwd' say?12:15
mikejjjthis makes no sense i can see the .rars in file browser but not in archive manager12:15
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ericzi was going for an uptime record, but i'm thinking i'll reboot12:15
mikejjjeven w/unrar installed and symbolically linked12:15
iNikuericz: okay. did you reboot after recreating it?12:15
yarrtheres is now password thingy12:15
ericzno, i'll reboot now12:15
iNikuhang on12:15
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iNikuericz: do this first12:16
_jasonmikejjj: symlinked? what for?12:16
kbrooksyarr: sudo python eazsyubuntu.py12:16
iNikuericz: chgrp utmp /var/run/utmp12:16
kbrooksyarr: easyubuntu.py is NOT executable12:16
iNikuchmod 664 /var/run/utmp12:16
mikejjj_jason; it didnt work before or after doing that12:16
yarryeah i'm trying to install stuff via scripts and it really isnt working out12:16
kbrooksyarr: you have to run it with "python12:16
Samuli^i though he was talking about .run?12:16
mikejjjit said i might have to into the file compression faq12:16
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ericziniku: and now reboot?12:16
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kbrooksyarr: er, add "python"12:16
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iNikuericz: then log out and go to a VT (ctrl-alt-f1)12:16
yarri have python12:16
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LaibschHi, I am in the process of moving to ubuntu from debian.  I need to change my grub config for that.  I added http://rafb.net/paste/results/Aft4Ld76.html to the end of my grub menu.lst.  All of ubuntu is on a single partition /dev/hda9 for now.  Still, it will not work.  Can anybody help?12:17
kbrooksyarr: i meant12:17
Samuli^yarr, in the type python whatever.py12:17
_jasonkbrooks: why isn't there just some thing you can double click and run the script?12:17
iNikuericz: log in on the VT and restart your display manager12:17
kbrooksyarr: you have to run it with >"python"<12:17
kbrooks_jason: our manpower is limited12:17
iNikuericz: /etc/init.d/kdm restart, or gdm if you're using gnome12:17
ericziniku: can i just ctrl+alt+backspace?12:17
iNikuericz: no, that won't restart the display manager12:17
_jasonkbrooks: it would take a minute to do and I believe there once was one12:17
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ericzalright.. i'll be right back12:18
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yarrok?12:18
_jasonkbrooks: and I definitely think it would be helpful12:18
soundraykbrooks: can I request an easyubuntu feature?12:18
looksausAlinuxOS, the document mdke pointed you at should get you runnign12:18
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AlinuxOSlooksaus, reading :)12:19
AlinuxOSI hope12:19
AlinuxOS;)12:19
looksausgood luck; I'll be around for 10 minutes to come12:19
AlinuxOSlooksaus, ;)12:19
looksaushave to catch some sleep, too12:19
soundraykbrooks, it would be great to have a log file where you can see what it's done (unless there already is one which I haven't found)12:20
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_jasonmikejjj: does it work in a terminal?12:20
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ericziniku: thanks, all is well... just one more question, do you know if "w" is supposed to show uptime?12:21
slackernericz, mine does12:21
ericzalright, good... thanks12:21
iNikuericz: cool, so did you reboot or just do what I suggested?12:21
iNikuand yeah, w is supposed to show uptime12:22
ericzi just rebooted :P12:22
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iNikuericz: okay. I was hoping my suggestion might have worked even without a reboot12:22
iNikuso you could have kept your uptime :)12:22
chip42ah dang. iNiku's solution sounded good. now i won't get to see how it works out without doing it myself :\12:22
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ericzit wasn't THAT high, but a personal best (5 days)12:22
ericzthe situation is pretty easily recreatable i'd guess, just delete /var/run/utmp12:23
mikejjjsweet, its going to take 1193046 hours to burn this 699mb cd!12:23
ramviHeya. Something is wrong... When I do sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xgl /etc/X11/X from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto, X stops working and won't start back up after restart... What do I do?12:23
iNiku5 days? hehe, you've still got a ways to go :)12:24
soundrayramvi: probably nothing. Your machine doesn't work with Xgl. It happens.12:24
ramvisoundray: It works nested12:24
JonBoonfor some reason mozilla-mplayer wont install, can anyone help me figure out why?12:24
hyphenatedJonBoon: do you get an error message?12:24
JonBoonyeah12:25
ramvisoundray: So I guess the problem is in the moving of files?12:25
ericzheh, it's a personal desktop, 2 weeks i think is like my all-time record ever, that was on a ubuntu minimal install i left on during vacation12:25
hyphenatedput it in a pastebin12:25
JonBoonwhats the link to pastebin, i've never used it12:25
hyphenated!paste12:25
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL12:25
eobanb_JonBoon, learn to read the topic12:25
soundrayramvi: you could check the log file, /var/log/Xorg.XX.log (warning: XX is *not* 0 in this case)12:25
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eobanb_ramvi, ask in #ubuntu-xgl12:27
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JonBoonhyphenated,  its posted12:27
eobanb_JonBoon, we kind of need the link to it...12:27
RandolphCarterJonBoon: tried 'aptitude install mplayer-*yourarchhere*'?12:28
JonBoonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1380412:28
hyphenatedyou need to install an appropriate version of mplayer first :-)12:29
eobanb_you probably want mplayer-68612:29
JonBooni dont know what that is, RandolphCarter, im new to this12:29
RandolphCarterJonBoon: sudo aptitude install "mplayer-`uname -m`" mozilla-mplayer12:29
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hyphenatedthat'll _almost_ work, RandolphCarter :-)12:29
eobanb_JonBoon, mplayer is optimised for various platforms, like intel 386, or amd k7, or motorola G412:29
JonBoonit says i need mplayer586 but is not going tobe installed12:30
RandolphCarterhyphenated: erk, trouble at the ranch?12:30
eobanb_JonBoon, so apt-get install mplayer-58612:30
hyphenatedJonBoon: you want to check what uname -m says. that'll help you choose the right mplayer package12:30
RandolphCarterahh, `uname -m | sed -e 's/i//'12:30
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RandolphCarter+`12:30
hyphenated:-)12:30
RandolphCarterdoh :P12:30
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hyphenatedit'd be quite nice if that were do-able. let's tell them to rename the packages12:31
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JonBoonmplayer586 says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1380612:31
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RandolphCarteryeah, though the sed trick won't hurt any of the other archs :)12:32
hyphenatedJonBoon: can you put your sources.list in a pastebin?12:32
eobanb_something looks way wrong here..12:32
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eobanb_JonBoon, /etc/apt/sources.list12:33
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JonBoonpemisson denied12:33
hyphenatedhuh?12:34
ramvieobanb_: thanks12:34
JonBoonin the terminal /etc/apt/sources.list says access denied12:34
hyphenateddon't try to run it :-)12:34
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RandolphCarterJonBoon: ahh, you need to open it, do 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'12:34
hyphenatedjust 'cat' the file and copy+paste that into the pastebin12:34
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JonBoonyoure assuming i know this much about linux :D12:35
RandolphCarterhehe, gedit'll open up the text editor window, you can copy+paste it from there12:35
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runa_hi i have burnt a linux cd with "growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc=data/ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso"12:35
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runa_but it does not work12:36
JonBoonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1380712:36
runa_as boot i mean12:36
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runa_can somebody help me12:37
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ClayGwhat is the right way to install a printer?12:37
RandolphCarterthanks JonBoon12:37
hyphenatedJonBoon: for some reason, you've only allowed "universe" and "multiverse" repositories12:37
arrickIs anyone here familiar with SMC swithes12:38
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arrickSMC-EZ108 to be exact12:38
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JonBoonok, hmm what do i need to change12:38
hyphenatedJonBoon: see the first two blocks that say "Uncomment the following two lines..." ?12:38
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hyphenatedremove the # marks behind the lines after them.12:38
r0verHello, i'm trying to update the packages from marillat and i get: Could not connect passive socket. Any suggestion ?12:38
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RandolphCarterr0ver: welcome to the fun, case and semi-colon sensitive world of apt.conf :)12:39
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_jasonr0ver: marillat repos should not be used on ubuntu12:39
soundrayr0ver: don't use the marillat repo for ubuntu12:40
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r0verwhere can i get a mplayer then ?12:40
soundray!tell r0ver about easysource12:40
budluvaanyone aware of a good mp3 / media streaming package?12:40
_jasonr0ver: mplayer is in multiverse12:40
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_jasonubotu: tell r0ver about mplayer12:40
JonBoonhyphenated,  how do i remove the #12:40
budluvai want to listen to all my tunes that are stored on my ubuntu machine from anywhere on the network12:40
hyphenatedJonBoon: in an editor :-)12:41
r0verthank guys!12:41
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soundraybudluva: is streaming the only option? Have you thought about sharing the files via NFS or SMB?12:41
JonBoonthe souce.list gedit isnt letting me change anything12:42
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RandolphCarterJonBoon: you'll need to 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' to change it12:42
HymnToLifeJonBoon> you have to run it as root - use gksudo12:42
JonBoonah ok12:42
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HymnToLifeuse gksudo instead of sudo12:42
HymnToLife!gksudo12:42
ubotuUse gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.12:42
budluvasoundray, well streaming is the easiest option12:43
budluvasoundray, currently use gnump3d, but i want something with more options, and something that looks a bit better12:43
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soundraybudluva, have you done an apt search? "apt-cache search music stream server" spits out a few here.12:44
MrGideonI'm having some severe problems with my nvidia install. When I tried to swap over to the nvidia from nv, using the standard ubuntu files, it keps hard-locking x. When I installed the ones from the nvidia website, it now complains that it can't find the nvidia kernel module. Which is present, and even loaded, according to lsmod. No errors from the module, other than that x.org can't find it.12:45
budluvajust googling right now, nothing much is coming up...will check out apt, thanks12:45
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JonBoonhyphenated,  now i have this problem when i load synaptic http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1380812:45
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HymnToLifeJonBoon> run sudo apt-gt update in a terminal12:46
HymnToLifeapt-get*12:46
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JonBoonok thats done12:47
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HymnToLiferetry Synaptic then :)12:47
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stramhas anyone have any suggestions for a DECENT bittorrent client? azureus has turned into a worse memory hog than FIREFOX!12:48
JonBoonyay! its working thanks for all the help HymnToLife and hyphenated12:48
muepstram, bittorrent12:48
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HymnToLifeJonBoon> you could as well have hit the Reload button in synaptic12:49
strammuep:ui'm hoping for gtk2:)12:49
HymnToLifebut I'm too much of an old skool command line freak :D12:49
JonBoonyeah, but im still learning and i dont wanna mess anything up12:49
muepstram, I think it is gtk212:49
muepstram, at least I have it, though not on ubuntu12:49
soundrayThe sure way to mess things up is to be too intent on avoiding it.12:50
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muepbut I thought this version is the same as the official one12:50
JonBoonhaha, i mean i will wait for instruction before i do something12:50
HymnToLifeJonBoon> I mean I could have told you "Hit the Reload button", would have worked too :p12:50
MrGideonstram: bittornado rocks12:50
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JonBoonhmm, video still wont play in firefox12:53
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damotorHi12:53
xpchi12:53
damotorDo you know how can I set jack in order to play sounds (not only midi)?12:54
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zcat[1] !mp312:54
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:54
xpcdo you speak hungarian?12:54
Emmett_Studiogive it up12:54
Emmett_StudioUse mp3 if you want.12:55
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zcat[1] trust me I don't want..12:55
jackdamotor: you cant12:56
jacki dont play sounds12:56
yarrcan somebody gimme a link of where to get ssh12:56
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jackubotu, openssl12:57
ubotujack: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:57
yarr!ssh12:57
ubotuI guess ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH12:57
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ferencwho is a xchat config file for ubuntu-gnome on net??12:57
damotorjack XD I din't realize, anyway, it must be some way to configure jack to play sounds12:57
jackcertainly12:58
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jacki'd suggest a ls /etc/*jack* for a start12:58
byronhello12:58
xpcwelcom byron12:58
byronhow do you install a .rpm file12:58
xpce12:58
jack!rpm12:58
ubotuwell, rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debian's DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien12:58
HymnToLife!alien12:58
ubotualien is, like, totally, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/12:58
gnomefreakbyron, you try not to is there not a deb for it anywhere?12:59
sybaritenhow would you, if you were a linux printer newbie, interpret these sentences? : "Now create printer entries for your spooler. Create at least one queue for monochrome, and another queue for color printing."12:59
byronno there isnt12:59
byronits limewire12:59
byronso unless you know some sites12:59
HymnToLife!google12:59
ubotuwell, google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.12:59
byronI know12:59
gnomefreakhold that thought for a min01:00
byronI think mostly it is .rpm and non working files01:00
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HymnToLifebyron> google for limewire + ubuntu ;)01:00
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gnomefreak~limewire01:00
gnomefreak!limewire01:00
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.01:00
mag_hello I have problems with compiz01:00
_jasonbyron: use frostwire, it's just like limewire01:00
mag_can you help me !01:00
ericzi installed limewire from a .rpm01:00
mag_help me !01:00
_jason!helpme01:00
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)01:00
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odysseyhello01:01
gnomefreakits safer to install limewire the way above ^^^01:01
byronthanks01:01
odysseycan anyone help me with sound problemes01:01
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byronwhat is so wrong with .rpm filetypes01:01
hyphenatedheh, my workmate said he's got his grandma using ubuntu, and had zero grief adding a printer over the phone01:01
mag_My windows are freeze who can resolv that ?01:01
yarrhey can i get a wget link to get ssh01:01
gnomefreakbyron, debian distros dont use rpms01:02
hyphenatedbyron: it's inappropriate on a debian-based system01:02
_jasonyarr: huh?01:02
hyphenatedbyron: just like a .exe would be :-)01:02
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gnomefreakbyron, they dont play well with debian01:02
yarrjust a link to get ssh01:02
yarror where i can get it01:02
byronlol ok01:02
_jasonubotu: tell yarr about ssh01:02
hyphenatedyarr: can't you get it via apt or synaptics?01:02
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odysseyi just installed dapper  and my sound pci card no longer works it was working great with breezy how can i fix it01:02
zcat[1] yarr: sudo apt-get install ssh01:02
gnomefreakthink isntalling an rpm package on windows01:02
hyphenatedyarr: that's the "normal" way to install things on ubuntu01:02
hyphenatedodyssey: #ubuntu+101:02
yarrlol yeah01:02
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byronsorry guys but the second version of limeiwre I have no clue of how to install01:04
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zcat[1] forget limeire, apt-get install amule01:04
gnomefreakbyron, sh file.sh01:04
gnomefreak!limewire01:04
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.01:04
gnomefreak^^^ it tells you there01:04
VideoToasterHey everybody, anybody here had trouble with Kaffeine not finding audio CDs?  I get "No AudioCD in drive or wrong path to drive."  It provides a drop-down, but there are no options in it.  Any ideas how to fix it?  I'm running Dapper.01:04
byronany help?01:04
byrontips01:04
byronI cant even find a readme01:04
byronwiat01:04
byronenvermind01:04
gnomefreakbyron, did you unpack the tar?01:05
hyphenatedVideoToaster: #ubuntu+101:05
byronit unpacked into a fodler01:05
gnomefreakbyron, now you should beable to just run sh limewire.sh01:05
yarrcool got it01:05
gnomefreakbut before installing make sure you have latest java01:05
VideoToasterHyphenated:  Whoops, sorry!  Thanks for the new IRC channel!01:05
Nihil_85hi guys, i wanted to buy a graphic card for my new pc. I would like to know if a brand or another of videocard matters... a part of the chipset, obviously. For example, i've seen at a good price a WS Geforce 6800GT 256mb... what about it?01:07
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byronah shit01:08
needlz_Nihil_85: im drawing all my pixels by myself :(01:08
byronI got the limeiwre installer to work01:08
soundrayNihil_85: people here tend to have more trouble with ATI than with NVidia.01:08
byronbut now it says i need to upgrade my java01:08
byronanyway to do that wihtout reinstalling a non ubuntu version01:08
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iNikunvidia support on linux has traditionally been pretty good.01:08
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FloidJust use gtk-gnutella.01:09
Nihil_85iNiku, in fact the gforce is from Nvidia01:09
gnomefreakubotu tell byron about javadebs01:09
Nihil_85soundray: it isn't an ATI one01:09
soundrayNihil_85: it would be so nice if there was a third way... No graphics chipset manufacturer supports free driver development decently.01:09
gnomefreakbyron, please read the pm ubotu sent you01:09
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byronis htere any way to get to a java version of higher then v 1.4.2 on linux wihtout using a non ubuntu thing01:09
soundrayNihil_85: I know. Take it as encouragement.01:09
byronjust upgrading present version01:10
soundrayNihil_85: what are you planning to do with your computer?01:10
gnomefreakbyron, java is non-free so you have to install java01:10
Nihil_85soundray, iNiku: i wanted to know if the brand, the producer of the card is important, or if i only have to see the chipset01:10
Floidbyron: Just use any other Gnutella / G2 client, Limewire is just a big slow one with ads.01:10
Nihil_85soundray: work with linux, play with windows01:10
FloidThere are many much nicer ones out there. :P01:10
gnomefreakbyron, if you have java 1.4 than thats fine just run sudo update-alternatives --config java and pick the 1.4 java01:10
soundrayNihil_85: I'd just look at the chipset, and go by price otherwise.01:10
iNikuNihil_85: yep01:11
Joetheoddbyron: Try out gtk-gnutella, it works great once you (finally) get the hang of it01:11
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Nihil_85iNiku: yep means that i only have to see the chipset?01:11
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daryl_Where is a howto for building a source file?01:11
soundrayNihil_85, I like passively cooled cards, but that's just a personal preference.01:11
HymnToLife!compiling01:11
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware01:11
iNikuNihil_85: okay, as far as I know you can always use nvidia's reference drivers on any geforce card01:12
daryl_thanks hymtolife01:12
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iNikuNihil_85: so that means the brand name shouldn't matter01:12
AlmtyBobSTUPID cave spiders 8(01:12
AlmtyBobangband makes me sad 8(01:12
Nihil_85iNiku: and the card is always good, right?01:12
Joetheodddaryl_: (in console) untar it, cd into it's folder, run ./configure, run make, run sudo make install, enjoy01:12
iNikuNihil_85: you mean one brand is as good as another?01:13
Nihil_85yes01:13
iNikuNihil_85: not necessarily... even if the geforce core is the same, the surrounding design may be of lesser quality so you get a softer picture or something01:14
Nihil_85this card's from "SW"....01:14
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iNikuNihil_85: but from the linux compatibility point of view, AFAIK any geforce card will do fine, no matter what brand01:14
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Nihil_85iNiku: the technical specifics are the same of a Sparkle or Asustek01:15
iNikusoundray: just consider the MHz (or even better, MIPS or some similar benchmark) on your computer with a 25MB HD, compared to today's CPUs01:15
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FloidIt's less often a matter of "softer picture" than how well it benchmarks or whether it comes pre-ovarclocked or such.01:16
FloidAnd the speed/quality of the RAM they're using, which mostly just effects overclocking.01:16
iNikuFloid: true, but there are also differences in the quality of the picture different cards can push out, especially when you approach the limits01:17
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iNiku1900xsomething at a high refresh rate over analog01:17
FloidI'm sick, though, I'd still rather deal with ATI's halfassedness than nVidia's binary blobs.01:17
iNikuprobably less of an issue over DVI01:17
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ufadoes anybody installed ubuntu in a compar r400001:18
ufa?01:18
iNikuFloid: the nice thing about nvidia's binary blobs in my experience has been that they mostly work01:18
FloidHeh, true.01:18
HymnToLifeufa > mine is a R3000, pretty close I guess01:18
jah_forhi! is there anybody here who can help me edit my xorg.conf for tv-out? i've tried some guides but i cant get it to work..01:18
iNikuand you get access to all the features01:18
soundrayFloid: are ATI drivers anything other than binary blobs though?01:18
FloidI still hate their business practices with that, though.01:18
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FloidThere are halfassed open source ATI drivers that work well enough if you just need a desktop.01:18
Floid2D desktop, rather.01:18
iNikuFloid: agreed01:19
ufaHymnToLife > what version?01:19
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FloidAnd then there are the halfassed binary ones, but at least you don't "need" them for the NIC and the rest of the chipset. :)01:19
Ademandoes ubuntu log its startup into a file?01:19
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iNikubut at least nvidia actually supports linux01:19
byronnow this is starting to piss me off...01:19
iNikuwhich can't be said for a lot of other companies01:19
byronI upgraded my java01:19
jah_foror maybe help me find a good guide..01:19
byronand it still says that my version is low01:19
HymnToLifeufa> hmmm, I read, compq sorry, my mistake :D01:19
HymnToLifecompaq*01:19
FloidFor some reason fglrx has this weird sort of overlay bug when using GL on the bottom quarter of a 1280x1024 screen on an Xpress 200, speaking of.01:20
gnomefreakbyron, did you run the command i gave you?01:20
byronI wrote java -version to check version01:20
anubarakhi01:20
byronit said it was in right version01:20
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jacob_hello!01:20
byronquel command01:20
gnomefreakbyron, sudo update-alternatives --config java01:20
ufait is compaq my mistake] 01:20
HymnToLifehmm01:20
gnomefreakbyron, pick the newest version you have by typing the number01:20
HymnToLifethen it is an R3113.EA if I remember well01:20
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FloidSo, uh, anyhow... there's no chance the sd SCSI-layer block device interface created for a USB floppy could pass for a fd-style block device, is there?01:21
ufait is hard to make it work01:21
ufai made with vesa01:21
jacob_question: I have ubuntu (Breezy badger) and don't know how to get ndiswrapper up... I got some thing called "ndiswrapper-utils" from symantptic (SP?) and i can't figure out what to go no01:21
jacob_now*01:21
HymnToLifeufa> everything worked ootb for me01:21
ufabut i would like that ATI driver working01:21
gnomefreakufa, what are you trying to make work?01:21
HymnToLifeexcept the crappy winmodem01:22
ufaati mostly01:22
soundrayjacob_: have you tried ndisgtk?01:22
HymnToLifeI just sticked with the defaults01:22
soundray!info ndisgtk01:22
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ubotundisgtk: (graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.5-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 104 kB01:22
ufaHymnToLife>>what version of ubuntu r u using?01:22
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gnomefreakoh ati drivers thats HymnToLife's area lol01:22
HymnToLifeit works well enough for Frozen Bubble :D01:22
jacob_soundray: is that on the symantic?01:22
byronthanks01:22
FloidOh, yeah, one thing that sucks about the open-source ATI drivers is that they don't appear to do DDC properly on most chipsets. :P01:22
soundrayjacob_: synaptic, yeah01:22
jah_fordoes anybody have a working dual-view with nvidia? maybe i can watch your xorg.conf file?01:22
jacob_ty01:22
ChadI need help, I've read the How to on modems, but I still dont understand.  I dont know which driver I need.  I have two modems, a Conexant(pay I think) and an Agere one...01:23
ChadNeither Will work.01:23
james__can someone help me with adding permission to write to a dir to a usr01:23
ufais there a new opensource ati driver?01:23
ufasince the breezy launch01:23
Floidufa: Is that a Radeon?01:23
HymnToLifeChad> did you read the HOTO on linmodems.org ?01:23
MetaMorfoziSwhat program can convert wmv to 3gp?01:23
ufaya01:23
ChadYes01:23
ufaradeon xpress 20001:23
ChadI dont know which modem I need, which driver.01:23
Floidfglrx is the closed-source driver, but you can install it, follow the instructions, and at least it will do DDC for you... which may get you a viewable display, if you're having trouble with the open-source drivers.01:23
HymnToLifeChad> they have  tool to identify the chipset on there01:24
FloidAFAIK the open-source ones haven't changed in that regard lately.01:24
Chadoh serious...but is it for windows?01:24
HymnToLifeerm01:24
ChadI'm on windows now Hymntolife01:24
HymnToLifewe're on Linux here ya know01:24
ChadYes, I know01:24
ufaman, ati sux hard01:24
HymnToLifewell then you have to identify them with linux01:24
ChadBut Ubuntu wont let me get on the internet, hence why I'm here, I'm using windows right now.01:24
Chadfiddle faddle.01:25
FloidNot really, but they do sort of expect you to know your way around xorg.conf. :)01:25
HymnToLifeyou can dual boot01:25
ChadHow?01:25
HymnToLife!dualboot01:25
ubotufor wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot01:25
FloidWith nVidia you'd have had to install the blob in the first place, probably. :)01:25
Chaddanke01:25
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HymnToLifekein Problem :)01:25
_jasonwintel?01:25
HymnToLifeWINdows / inTEL I guess01:26
jacob_soundray: I can't find it in syniptic01:26
Floidufa: If you specify HorizSync and VertRefresh, you should be able to use the open-source driver.  Coming up with values for a laptop is going to be annoying, of course, but you can derive them from standard VESA modes. :)01:26
soundrayFloid: have you heard of the Open Graphics Development Board? Kerneltrap have been reporting...01:26
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Floidsoundray: Yes, sounds like fun.  I have no idea if there's been progress.01:27
___dc1337soundray: i can't find it in the syniptic01:27
soundrayFloid, they are about to release this prototyping board, it seems.01:27
james__can someone help me with adding permission to write to a dir to a usr01:27
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___dc1337soundray: do i have to install it manually01:27
FloidMy latest hardware adventures have involved finding cheap integrated things to use for office workstations, the Compaq "SR1611NX"es and relatives are about as low as a decent Socket 939 system gets.01:27
___dc1337soundray: or am i just not showing all the serverS?01:28
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soundray___dc1337: no, you have to enable the universe repository in synaptic.01:28
FloidBut HP won't sell you a floppy bezel for them, no matter how much you beg, because it's not in the parts catalog despite being pictured in all the product shots. x_x01:28
orbweaverhi .. just booted my debian machine on the umbutu cd .. very nice!01:28
___dc1337soundray: thx, just did01:28
Floid(And they use delightful 5.25x1" bezels for the 3.5" bays, with the bay to the left, hrgbhlgh.)01:28
___dc1337soundray: downloading files01:29
HymnToLife5.25 floppy are cool01:29
soundray___dc1337: I preferred your former nick01:29
___dc1337soundray: w00t! there it is01:29
___dc1337ok01:29
FloidHeh, I'm talking about a 3.5" bay with a 5.25"-width bezel.01:29
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FloidAnd it's not even centered or full 5.25" height, so there's no way to improvise something that wouldn't look like a turd.01:29
HymnToLifethis is not cool01:30
HymnToLifewell01:30
jacob_soundray: odd, it said that someone else owns it01:30
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HymnToLifewho needs floppies ?01:30
jacob_soundray: oh well01:30
soundrayjacob_: that someone is yourself.01:30
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HymnToLifeexcept poor Windows users with SATA Drives :D01:30
FloidPeople with lots and lots of legacy floppies that need to be read in on an as-needed basis.01:30
luisvanyone here running latest dapper and seeing problems with gconf?01:30
ompaul!dapper01:31
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)01:31
FloidSee the aforementioned gripe re: USB floppy and "trying to make one appear as A: in VMWare Player."01:31
luisvi.e., no settings whatsoever?01:31
HymnToLifeyou can still get an USB drive lmao01:31
jacob_soundray: yes, i know... i just haven't set a password so i thought that it wouldn't remember me01:31
jacob_soundray: what do i do after intallation?01:31
FloidThere's some sort of weird contention going on between the VM and the kernel wherein the floppy has to be unplugged and replugged every time you want to use it in the VM, anyway.  Heh.01:31
soundrayjacob_: launch it01:31
jacob_from applications?01:31
HymnToLifeFloid> fid a friend of yours who is still using windows and mooch it off to read your floppies :D01:32
FloidSo having a normal fd0 on that hardware would be nice. :P01:32
soundrayjacob_: Alt-F2, enter gksudo ndisgtk01:32
AlinuxOShello https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0/+sign I've added my coc.txt.asc content nto the text box, after I clicked ADD, but get errors on the page like: An error occurred. |  str: No public key01:32
FloidHymn: This is an office, there are more than 500 of them.01:32
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AlinuxOScan't understand where is my fault01:32
pakelehola01:32
pakelebuenas noches01:32
HymnToLife!es01:32
pakeleuna pregunta01:32
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:32
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AlinuxOSI have even imported my pubblic key.01:32
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jacob_soundray: ty!01:32
FloidIf I could find a service that owned a 3.5" autoloader, I'd take them there, but I think nobody knows what those are anymore.01:32
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gnomefreakAlinuxOS, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please and i had same issue with the newer version of coc01:33
soundrayjacob_: I hope you'll manage from here, because I've never used that program :)01:33
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FloidAnd the only autoloaders that ever show up on eBay are standalone duplicators, the last thing I need are twice as many floppies. :)01:33
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jacob_soundray: lol01:33
gnomefreakif i remember the launchpad channel id send you there :(01:33
AlinuxOSgnomefreak, ok :D01:33
jacob_soundray: is there any way to place it in the start menu?01:34
soundrayjacob_: lots of people here have used it successfully though.01:34
gnomefreakjoin #launchpad01:34
slackernFloid, autoloader are those the floppy duplicating machines?01:34
jacob_ /j works too01:34
soundrayjacob_: I don't think you need to run it again, once you've set it up.01:34
gnomefreakthat would be the channel01:34
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jacob_soundray: ok01:34
soundrayjacob_: but, in principle, you can add a custom launcher to a menu or panel that runs a command like 'gksudo ndisgtk'01:35
Floidslackern: Well, technically an "autoloader" is just the hardware to, y'know, load and unload a stack of 50 floppies or whatever.  They used to make ones that would strap to the front of your 'real computer' or stick out of a 3.5" bay, too.01:35
jacob_soundray: thanks01:35
FloidBut apparently the people who own those are hoarding them like gold.01:35
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slackernFloid, ahh yes i know what it is then, had one at my old job hooked up to and old 386 dos machine.01:35
soundrayFloid: that's fun, a Wurlitzer for floppies...01:35
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FloidSee, you'd think there'd be a shop within, oh, 50 miles of New York City that owns one and could just image your stack-o-floppies onto CD for $50.01:36
RandolphCarterbefore I go to a lot of effort, has anyone seen a 'less' like program designed to 'slow' output from a file or pipe?01:36
soundrayFloid: except that it would have to change floppies at least once in the middle of a song ;)01:36
FloidBut the reality is much more painful.01:36
jacob_soundrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy: i                 think it workddddddddddddddddds01:36
jacob_wow01:36
jacob_tahttttttttttttttttt was gay01:36
jacob_why  the laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagy>?01:36
FloidNo, anal sex with another man is gay.01:37
soundrayHey, I love to be the cause for such exuberance.01:37
HymnToLifethis is flooding01:37
jacob_lol01:37
jacob_me01:37
HymnToLifeflooding is gay01:37
soundray!gay01:38
slackern!language01:38
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.01:38
Floid!bears01:38
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Floid01:38
jacob_sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry? my comppppppppppppppppputer illlllllllllllllls bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrretaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarted01:38
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jacob_brb01:38
RandolphCarter!ponies01:38
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RandolphCarter01:38
five_laptophey is there a repository for mythtv?01:38
RandolphCarter:(01:38
soundray!+gay01:38
ubotu[gay]  the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?01:38
Floid!xset01:38
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Floid01:38
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five_laptop_!mythtv01:38
ubotumythtv is probably for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/01:38
RandolphCarterfive_laptop: mythtv is in multiverse01:38
Floid!unicorns01:39
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Floid01:39
HymnToLifetotally righ, in french we use the word "gai" for what ubotu describes01:39
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soundrayHymnToLife: in English, we use words like 'blithe' and 'bonnie' today01:40
soundray(or have I missed the latest developments there?)01:40
mahGute Nacht.01:40
HymnToLifeisn't there a changelog somewhere ? :p01:40
sokubanI am quite new to  ubuntu and I have a question, is it normal to be unable to connect to a network in ubuntu? when I try to look at it on ubuntu it calls it 'windows network' what should I do?01:40
soundraymah: schlaf gut01:40
mahOops01:40
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jacob_very sorry! i had a problem... it was just puting in 80 letters for every one i typed01:41
jacob_very sorry01:41
HymnToLifesokuban> what happens if you double click on Windows Network ?01:41
jacob_had to restart01:41
HymnToLifethat was gay :p01:41
mahsoundray: Du auch. ;)01:41
doogluswhen I saturate my upstream, my mouse starts getting really bad - it freezes for a second every 3 seconds or so.  can I prioritise the touchpad/mouse higher than the USB network card?01:41
jacob_xD01:42
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jacob_hey, how do i run the network thingy again?01:42
soundraydooglus: are they on the same hub, and have you tried separating them?01:42
dooglusjacob_: "sudo network-thingy"01:42
soundrayjacob_: gksudo ndisgtk01:43
jacob_thanks01:43
dooglussoundray: it's a laptop.  the touchpad is built in, the network is on a USB cable.01:43
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Floidjacob: Next time 'xset' yourself back to a normal repeat rate and delay.  If you can manage to cut and paste the letters to type the command. ;)01:43
sokubanHymnToLife: I haven't tried that but I am running windows now, I can't magically go and boot up ubuntu, should I? I guess I'll need to get on irc from another comp then01:43
HymnToLifenetwork on USB ?01:43
HymnToLifedamn THAT's creepy01:43
sokubanwhat do you think might happen?01:43
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dooglussoundray: if I just run a "cp" to copy a big file onto a remote server, my touchpad starts responding very slowly.01:43
dooglusHymnToLife: it is?01:44
HymnToLifesokuban> I guess you will have al the Windows computers of your network listed01:44
HymnToLifeexactly the same ay as in Windows01:44
soundraydooglus: that's annoying.01:44
FloidThe answer is "Cardbus." ;)01:44
sokubanok but what would I have to do to the network to connect to it while on ubuntu?01:44
dooglussoundray: I was wondering if I could set the priority of the touchpad driver to be higher than the USB port somehow.01:44
dooglussoundray: maybe with 'nice'?01:44
HymnToLifesokuban> you mean to share files with Win users ?01:44
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sokubanno to use internet01:45
sokubanoops your prolly thinking this is a network01:45
HymnToLifehmm01:45
soundraydooglus: the nice equivalent for network traffic is QoS01:45
iNikudooglus: the problem is probably that the touchpad is internally an USB device as well01:45
jacob_doooooooooooooooooinggggggggggggggggg it again01:45
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jacob_i thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink it is active now01:45
dooglusiNiku: is there some way I can test that theory?01:45
sokubanaccording to my dad "there is a firewall, you can't stop it just give up whatever you are trying to do"01:45
iNikudooglus: and it's on the same internal USB hub01:45
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sokubanis this normal with some sort of firewall or something?01:46
soundraydooglus: you could switch to legacy mode in the BIOS and see if it improves.01:46
HymnToLifesokuban> if a Windows box can connect, an Ubuntu should connect too01:46
RandolphCarterdooglus: iirc there's a fairly experimental USB QoS option in the kernel configuration01:46
HymnToLifemaybe some proxy settings01:46
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dooglusiNiku: I just guessed at a command: 'lsusb' - that shows only one USB device is connected, the network card01:46
sokubanhmm how would I work with those?01:46
Mastastealthcan anyone give me the name of the dapper channel?01:46
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RandolphCarterdooglus: not sure where you can get the user-space tools from (if it's even turned on in the ubuntu kernels)01:46
HymnToLife!dapper01:46
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)01:46
iNikudooglus: hmm, okay, probably a wrong guess then01:47
Mastastealththx01:47
HymnToLifesokuban> ask your dad :p01:47
sokubanhe doesn't know anything about computers, and he will tell me to give up >_<01:47
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Floiddooglus: It's probably just interrupt load from the USB NIC.01:48
HymnToLifesokuban> well, you certainly did something so your Windows boxes could connect, right ?01:48
HymnToLifedo the same on Ubuntu :)01:48
FloidWatch your sys time in 'top,' and if it's spiking when you freeze up, get a Cardbus NIC or something. :P01:48
dooglusFloid: what's weird is that when I use a USB2 port instead of USB1.1, the problem doesn't happen, even though then the transfer speed is much faster01:48
sokubanalright, I'll try messing with the settings and come back if I need more help, at least I know now that if windows can connect I can do it with ubuntu01:48
RandolphCarterdooglus: it wouldn't be unusual for it to be using a USB bus (look in BIOS)01:48
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FloidProbably because the device can use EHCI then, however that works.01:49
dooglusFloid: it could be that the USB2 port is on a pcmcia card, not part of the laptop, I don't know01:49
Floid(Meaning USB2.0, meaning less load on the system per-byte-transferred.)01:49
dooglusFloid: I see.  OK.01:49
FloidLike I say, USB2 is probably just more less-stupid in that regard. ;)01:49
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soundraydooglus: just curious, do you know if your USB NIC supports wake-on-lan?01:49
dooglusthe pcmcia USB2 card stopped working a while ago unfortunately01:50
FloidThe laptop doesn't have built-in ethernet?01:50
dooglussoundray: I've no idea.01:50
dooglusFloid: it used to.  but it fell out.01:50
FloidHeh.01:50
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FloidA MiniPCI card/01:50
Floid?01:50
soundraydooglus: have you got the make & model name there?01:50
Nihil_85hi! no one here experienced with graphic cards?01:50
dooglusFloid: I tried sticking it back in, but it's not been the same since.  It works now, but only if you push the ethernet cable in *really* hard01:50
MastastealthNihil: which one? ;)01:51
dooglussoundray: I can't remember even that.  I think it's an ASIX, ethernet-to-USB thingy.01:51
Nihil_85Mastastealth: i wante to buy a graphic card, it's not a software problem but an hardware one :) can you help me, however?01:51
Mastastealthyes, one word, NVIDIA :D01:52
Nihil_85Mastastealth: obviously!01:52
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Mastastealthafter that, it depends on ur budget01:52
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username_Hi, question about midi, I have it working some in wine01:52
soundraydooglus: I've got a similar device, but can't make it work. The manufacturers have sent me driver source, but I haven't succeeded in compiling it yet.01:52
Mastastealthwhat range are you looking for? :)01:52
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Nihil_85Mastastealth: i only wanted to know if (always with the same chipset) the brand, the manifacturer, matters01:52
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username_followed advice from Franks Corner01:53
dooglussoundray: I couldn't get this one to work in windows xp, or in debian sid.  but it worked in dapper as soon as I plugged it in.01:53
dooglussoundray: no driver installation was needed.01:53
soundraydooglus: I'm impressed.01:53
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soundraydooglus: maybe I'll just go looking for another one.01:53
odysseyhello01:53
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username_does anybody know why windows media player cannot play midi?01:53
Nihil_85Mastastealth: i'm looking for a Geforce 6800 256mb SLI PCI-E. I've seen a SW (unknown brand) in a bulk edition a lot of money less01:54
dooglussoundray: I'll take a look at the box when I can and let you know which it is.01:54
_jasonusername_: this is an ubuntu linux support channel01:54
username_not wine?01:54
Nihil_85Mastastealth: are you euro zone or dollar zone?01:54
soundrayThanks dooglus01:54
Mastastealthdollars01:54
_jasonusername_: not windows media player :/01:54
username_wine01:55
odysseydoes anybody know what to use as a dvd shrink on ubuntu01:55
Nihil_85Mastastealth: so we cannot compare the prices, couse you buy hw much less than me01:55
_jasonubotu: tell username_ about midi01:55
username_I have it working01:55
Mastastealthaw...sry Nihil ^_^01:55
username_but some things do not work in wine, midi, and some do01:55
_jasonusername_: you can ask questions about wine if you want, but #winehq may have people mofr familiar with it01:55
Nihil_85Mastastealth: the price isnt' a problem right now01:55
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MastastealthNihil, so u just want the most bang for ur bucK?01:56
odysseydoes dvd shrink work in ubuntu01:56
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soundrayusername_: why don't you use a native midi player for Linux?01:56
username_ok, got the chat from their site01:56
_jasonusername_: you know you can play midi's without wine right?01:56
Nihil_85Mastastealth: i wanted to know if the manifacturer matters, cause 2 cards with the same chipset and configurations, can cost much more or less01:56
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username_yes, I have timidity and a soundfont installed01:56
Nihil_85Mastastealth: the price's not a problem cause my matter is another :) i cannot buy the top, right at this moment. :(01:57
dapatrickQuick question: after upgrading to Dapper, I can no longer run "gksudo firestarter"01:57
MastastealthNihil, sometimes yes, XFX, BFG, PNY are good manufacturers01:57
username_closely followed the instructions at Franks corner01:57
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dapatrickI get an error complaining of "Cannot open display"01:57
dapatrickBut my DISPLAY environment variable is set correctly.01:57
Mastastealthif you go to cheap, u can get lesser quality, maybe a hotter card or something01:57
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soundraydapatrick, hit Alt-F2 and enter the command there01:57
username_I am running Mepis 6 beta 2, based on ubuntu01:57
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Nihil_85Mastastealth: so this SW can be a crappy card? but it costs 50-60% less...01:58
dapatricksoundray: no dice01:58
dapatrickIt's very strange.01:58
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Nihil_85Mastastealth: uhmmm, i've thought about a crappy cooler or something like this01:58
JayAllHey01:58
soundraydapatrick: try #ubuntu+1 -- it may be a dapper problem.01:58
MastastealthNihil, is SW and abbreviation? or the actual name01:59
dapatrickOkay, thanks soundray.01:59
Nihil_85Mastastealth: I don't know!!!!01:59
odysseydo you use dvd shrink on ubuntu01:59
Mastastealthlol, do u have a link?01:59
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Nihil_85Mastastealth: pvt02:00
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JayAllOk, so my laptop has been freezing up lately - I mean, the whole thing just stops, no response, even the animation on the cursor stops (if there happens to be one at the time). This seems to happen at totally random, arbitrary moments when nothing is going on (I'm usually not even touching it). Is this in any way possibly related to Ubuntu? (p.s. the system goes bgack to normal after I knock...02:01
JayAll...it out and reboot)02:01
odysseydo you use any software on ubuntu that does the same as dvd shrink02:02
tahorgodyssey: what does dvd shrink do ?02:02
JayAllOk, so my laptop has been freezing up lately - I mean, the whole thing just stops, no response, even the animation on the cursor stops (if there happens to be one at the time). This seems to happen at totally random, arbitrary moments when nothing is going on (I'm usually not even touching it). Is this in any way possibly related to Ubuntu? (p.s. the system goes bgack to normal after I knock...02:02
JayAll...it out and reboot)02:02
tahorgJayAll: paste again ?02:02
JayAllPaste what, tahorg02:03
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odysseyshrinks dvd's from 8gig to 3.7 + decodes02:03
zcat[1] try acidrip ?02:03
odysseysomething like dvd santa on xp02:03
HIGH-FREQya there's a proggie...called um...02:03
JayAllodyssey: tar -cjf file.tar.bz2 <dvd directory>02:03
JayAll;)02:04
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tahorgspikeb: tango02:04
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spikebalmost02:04
zcat[1] not sure if acidrip will rip to a smaller VOB but it does a nice job ripping to divx..02:04
HIGH-FREQits called k9copy02:04
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mugzie!realplayer02:07
ubotufrom memory, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:07
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odysseyjayall what does that command do tar  -cjf tar bz202:08
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JayAllodyssey: tar is .. kinda like WinZip02:08
JayAllbut totally different ..02:08
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JayAllSame general idea.02:08
tahorgodyssey: it creates a tarball archive compressed with bzip202:08
odysseyok you input in the terminal02:09
jacob_well, it didn't work02:09
odysseynewbie sorry02:09
jacob_it just froze up ubuntu02:09
JayAllodyssey: We were all there.02:09
jacob_and made it crash a few times on start up02:09
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jacob_can you tell me how to install ndiswrapper?02:10
tahorgsudo apt-get install ndiswrapper02:10
jacob_thanks02:10
jacob_how do i config?02:10
zcat[1] didn't know about k9copy.. worth a look :)02:10
tahorgjacob_: sorry it's ndiswrapper-utils02:10
duelbootYeah!  Dapper Drake Beta...Boo! I don't know how to Samba...I went to System > Admin > Shared Folders and added a directory I want to share...am on my other computer now (both ubuntu) and it doesn't show up in my network area...any help on what I need to do?02:10
jacob_tahorg: i have that02:11
tahorgduelboot: mmh, wait ?02:11
spikebhmm02:11
jacob_tahorg: i got it before, hoping that that was the whole thing02:11
spikebduelboot: how long has it been since you turned on sharing?02:11
duelbootjust did it02:11
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spikebduelboot: i've noticed that both my linux and mac boxes sometimes take a while to show up, or dont bother to show up at all02:11
zcat[1] wait up to ten minutes..02:11
jacob_tahorg: is it? at any rate how do i configure?02:12
tahorgjacob_: well IIRC you need the windows driver02:12
duelbootdoes a reboot speed up the process?02:12
jacob_tahorg: have it02:12
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jacob_tahorg: on my desktop02:12
tahorgjacob_: sorry I've used it long time ago02:12
jacob_tahorg: its ok02:12
zcat[1] reboot won't help.. other windows machines will take ages to 'find' new shares..02:12
l_can someone tell me if there is a way to convert .zip files into tarball?02:12
tahorgjacob_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3192602:13
jacob_tahorg: ty02:13
_jasonl_: unzip them and then tar them would be one way02:13
spikebzcat[1] : yeah it's a real PITA02:13
duelbootAlso, prior to trying to share I have a windows Network that shows up there, but nothing is ever in it...I have one windows box, would it show up by default?02:13
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zcat[1] it's a feature of the design of SMB.. it can take up to ten minutes for a new share (or machine, or network) to show up on other machines..02:13
duelbootis there a way to mount a samba share without a gui so I can have it automatically do it each time I boot?02:14
zcat[1] If you want to move files to/from windows machines I'd recommend WinSCP, it's much more predictable.02:14
jacob_tahorg: how do i set the cd to desktop?02:15
tahorgjacob_: sorry I didn't understand the question02:15
jacob_tahorg: used to c:/documents and settings\jacob\desktop xD\02:15
jacob_the desktop02:15
zcat[1] you can add smb shares in /etc/fstab ..02:15
jacob_as in where you see the icons without opening windows02:15
tahorgjacob_: is your win partition mounted ?02:15
zcat[1] I can't remember the exact format offhand though02:16
jacob_tahorg: ? you mean windows02:16
tahorgjacob_: hoo, cd ~/Desktop02:16
jacob_tahorg: no, i had some trouble with it telling me that i had software that was not "genuinE"02:16
jacob_tahorg: ty02:16
l_can someone tell me what file format is needed to install an icon theme?02:16
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duelbootzcat[1] , how do I get the name?  //computer_name/path ?02:16
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tahorgjacob_: ~ means $HOME means /home/username02:16
jacob_tahorg bash: cd: /home/jacob/desktop: no such file or directory02:17
zcat[1] I can't remember the exact format.. something like that02:17
tahorgjacob_: unix are case sensitive02:17
zcat[1] Desktop not desktop..02:17
tahorgunixes02:17
jacob_oh02:17
jacob_thanks02:17
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tahorgjacob_: tecnically02:18
untunghi02:18
tahorg+h02:18
untung how to instal xine in ubuntu?02:18
tahorgjacob_: when you have ubuntu kernel and ndiswrapper set up02:18
tahorgjacob_: ndiswrapper -i thingy.inf02:18
zcat[1] dapper is so sweet..02:18
tahorgthingy.inf as the win driver02:18
l_can someone tell me what the proper file format is for installing icon themes/02:19
Mastastealthl_ a tar? ;)02:19
zcat[1] usuallt tgz or tbz I think..02:20
jacob_tahorg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1381002:20
fanskaphmm isn't it possible to mount ntfs partitions with read/write support within the ubuntu breezy liveCD ?02:20
zcat[1] most themes are a tarball..02:20
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zcat[1] fanskap: possible yes, but not easy..02:20
jacob_tahorg: says that "driver present, hardware present"02:21
fanskapisn't easy?02:21
fanskapwhy's that?02:21
Mastastealthfanskap: not write, unless you want to take that risk02:21
tahorgjacob_: that is bad.02:21
zcat[1] ahhh.. for live CD I think it's not possible.. try knoppix02:21
l_Mastastealth: i downloaded an icon theme in zip format, unzipped it and then tarred it, but i still get an error message when i drag n drop into theme details02:21
fanskapMastastealth: i want to take that risk since the only thing i need is to copy one network driver.02:21
l_Mastastealth: do you have a nideA?02:21
zcat[1] To write NTFS you need captive. I'm not sure if the live CD has it. knoppix definately did last time I used it.02:21
Mastastealthl_: where'd u get it? is it a windows theme?02:21
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Mastastealthfanskap: then all you need is read no?02:21
fanskapno02:22
fanskapwrite support02:22
fanskapsince i need to get it to the laptop02:22
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tahorgjacob_: are you registered to be able to talk in private ?02:22
Mastastealth!ntfs02:22
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:22
slackernl_: You could try extracting the file so it's just a folder and put it in the .themes folder also.02:22
Mastastealth!captive02:23
ubotuwell, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.02:23
zcat[1] If you try to write to ntfs with the linux drivers, you will likely zero any file you try to write to, and destroy any directory you try to create or delete a file in..02:23
jacob_tahorg: me thinks02:23
Mastastealthaw, well there u go fanskap, u cant02:23
jacob_tahorg: you pmed me02:23
Mastastealthcaptive is wut u would need02:23
_jasonl_: they need to have the right directory structure02:23
tahorgjacob_: yes02:23
Mastastealthhowever, knoppix or something might be able to02:23
jacob_tahorg: i didn't realize that you had02:23
tahorgjacob_: but I've had no answer02:23
l_Mastastealth: no, the icons are all in .png format02:24
jacob_tahorg: i don't know what you are asking me to do02:24
jacob_tahorg: waht is an rmod?02:24
tahorgjacob_: rmmod ndiswrapper02:24
tahorgjacob_: it unloads the driver02:24
jacob_tahorg: what do i type?02:24
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vladuz976what does framerate mean?02:24
jacob_tahorg: just that?02:24
tahorgjacob_: sudo rmmod ndiswrapper02:24
slackernl_, is it an icon theme?02:24
jacob_tahnks02:24
zcat[1] if you want to move a file from ubuntu into windows, put it on a USB drive or email itself and pick up the mail in windows..02:25
Mastastealthvlad: in a game? in general the amount of frames displayed in a certain amount of time02:25
l_slackern: im not sure, how do i tell?02:25
jacob_tahorg: thanks... now what do i do02:25
jacob_tahorg: check again?02:25
slackernl_, maybe there is some information about the theme you downloaded?02:25
tahorgjacob_: try a 'ndiswrapper -l'02:25
tahorgjacob_: what does it say ?02:25
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tahorg(with a sudo of course)02:25
spikebl_: it sounds like it doesn't have the file that makes drag n drop installation easy, might have to manually put it where it belongs02:26
tahorgsudo ndiswrapper -l02:26
spikebwherever that is02:26
jacob_tahorg: one sec02:26
slackernl_, the themes and such i used usually end up in ~/.themes or ~./icons02:26
jacob_wg311v3 driver present, hardware present02:26
slackernl_, but some themes are a mess :)02:26
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jacob_tahorg: wg311v3 driver present, hardware present02:26
spikeb~./icons/directoryfortheme02:26
tahorgjacob_: every thing is ok till now02:27
jacob_tahorg: it works?02:27
tahorgjacob_: now, load the driver "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"02:27
tahorgjacob_: not yet02:27
jacob_tahorg: ok02:27
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tahorgjacob_: dmesg | tail02:27
tahorgjacob_: anything about ndiswrapper ?02:27
jacob_tahorg: just that02:27
jacob_tahorg: just type dmsg | tail in?02:28
tahorgjacob_: yes02:28
jacob_dmesg | tail02:28
jacob_oops02:28
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slackern^^02:28
tahorgjacob_: well, not here :)02:28
jacob_[4296042.513000]  ndiswrapper: device wlan0 removed02:28
jacob_[4296042.625000]  ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:0a.0 disabled02:28
jacob_[4296082.894000]  ndiswrapper version 1.1 loaded (preempt=no,smp=no)02:28
jacob_[4296082.900000]  ndiswrapper: driver wg311v3 (NETGEAR,02/22/2005,3.1.1.7) loaded[4296082.912000]  PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:0a.0 (0104 -> 0106)02:28
jacob_[4296082.912000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0a.0[A]  -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 1802:28
jacob_[4296082.912000]  PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:0a.0 to 6402:28
l_spikeb: is there any way to change teh icons one by one?02:28
jacob_[4296082.914000]  ndiswrapper: using irq 1802:28
jacob_[4296083.459000]  wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:0f:b5:8c:be:c6 using driver wg311v3, configuration file 11AB:1FAA:1385:6B00.5.conf02:28
slackern!paste02:28
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL02:28
jacob_[4296083.459000]  wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP, WPA with TKIP, WPA with AES/CCMP02:28
jacob_sorry!02:28
tahorgjacob_: stop02:28
jacob_didn't realize it was that long02:28
tahorgjacob_: so till here, everything alright02:29
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jacob_tahorg: cool02:29
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tahorgjacob_: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan02:29
jacob_tahorg: k02:29
tahorgjacob_: do yo see your access point ?02:29
tahorgyou02:29
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jacob_tahorg: hold on... pastebinning02:30
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jacob_tahorg: wait, yes, i see it02:31
l_is there any way to change teh icons on your system one by one?02:31
tahorgjacob_: so you're card is _almost_ working02:31
jacob_tahorg: 1337!02:31
_jasonl_: not really, you can edit the themes in your ~/.themes pretty easily though02:31
tahorgjacob_: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "youressid"02:31
jacob_tahorg: kk02:31
jacob_tahorg: what about wep key?02:32
tahorgjacob_: then if it barks the same error as you've already pasted02:32
tahorgjacob_: something's wrong02:32
jacob_tahorg: i think it worked02:32
jacob_tahorg: no errors02:32
tahorgjacob_: for the key, it's sudo iwconfig wlan0 key MYKEYINHEXAFORM02:32
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jacob_tahorg: but, it didn't say anthing02:32
tahorgjacob_: then everything's fine02:33
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tahorgjacob_: could you paste me the output of iwconfig wlan002:34
l_what is teh sfaest file sharing client for linux?02:34
tahorgif you put sudo in front of it, you key will be visible02:34
jacob_sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry,,, my                 computerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr doesssssssssssssssss thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis gay thinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng when                 i try to ppppppppppppppppput in weppppppppppppppppp,,, it mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmakesssssssssssssssss me gooooooooooooooooo like                 this02:34
tahorgwow.02:34
tahorgthat's weird02:34
tahorgg2g, sorry jacob_02:35
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biovoresounds like your wep stuff messes with your RTC02:35
biovorethen again..  NDIS dose strang stuff..02:35
newpersi'm a slackware user and a friend of my is urging me to get ubuntu with server profile (what is server profile?  is it something i enable when installing?)02:36
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newpersalso would anyone advise against d/ling dapperdrake for use in a produciton server?02:37
slackernnewpers: You can just choose server when you install at the bootprompt02:37
biovorenewpers: when you go to install type server at the boot prompt..  it just installs ubuntu without X02:37
_jasonnewpers: yes, wait until it is officially released in less than 3 weeks02:37
zcat[1] newpers: absolutely..02:37
slackernnewpers well it is still beta and not recommended02:37
newpersohh.. i'll do that on the production server then.  on my workstation.. i'll just install as normal02:37
zcat[1] wait a couple of weeks after release and make sure nobody else has any major problems too..02:37
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slackernnewpers, i've been running it for some time now, and there are a few issues but most are because of the ati drivers for me.02:38
zcat[1] I'm running it desktop now but I wouldn't run a server on it quite yet02:38
slackernnewpers, but beware that stuff can still break since it's under development.02:38
newpersso, you all would recommend that i d/l dapperdrake for personal use, right?02:39
newpersor should i wait on that as well02:39
_jasonnewpers: personal use is fine imo02:39
newpers_jason: thanks02:39
slackernnewpers, and another tip is to use the textmode install if you want better control over the install02:39
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newpersis there a netinstall?02:39
zcat[1] nautilus keeps crashing on me.. bit of a pain. and audacity's been playing up too..02:39
slackernnewpers, there are some hacks for it i belive but no cd's that behave like debians netinstall as far as i know.02:39
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newpersor what's the easiest way to install it.  distro's always come with 5 more cds than needed02:40
zcat[1] but generally it's pretty good.02:40
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slackernit's just one cd.02:40
_jasonnewpers: ubuntu is a one cd install02:40
newpersyayzor!02:40
zcat[1] one CD and 200M of downloads to make it useful :)02:40
newpersnot bad at all.  vim, lighttpd, postgresl, python, ipython, xorg, and gnome is all i need02:41
slackernatleast the reposotories are fast :)02:41
byron_I am trying ot add song to a playlist with songs that originate on another computer on the network, what would the netowrk dir be?02:41
zcat[1] yay for broadband!!02:41
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newpersi'm assuming all of those packages are available for dapper, correct02:41
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slackernnewpers, you can check out packages.ubuntu.com for packages too02:41
newpersif it's 3 weeks away02:41
newpersslackern: thanks02:41
slackernnewpers, if you need to see if something is missing.02:41
byron_where would my netowrk directory be02:42
byron_?02:42
five_laptophrmrmr02:42
slackernyou can join #ubuntu+1 channel for dapper talk also.02:42
five_laptopi've got the multiverse repository in my sources list but i still can't get mythtv02:42
zcat[1] apt-get update ?02:42
_jasonfive_laptop: pastebin your sources.list please02:42
slackernfive_laptop, i had some problems with multiverse now working properly also, i had to add it to another line.02:42
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slackernhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13813 there are the repos im using now02:43
slackernbut those are for dapper though.02:44
newpersomg, dapper has everything i need.  amazing02:44
five_laptopwell ... i have the binary universe in there... should i add the src deb too?02:44
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_jasonfive_laptop: you don't need the source deb unless you want the source :P02:44
five_laptopaight02:44
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_jasonfive_laptop: make sure you have multiverse enabled for breezy, not just breezy-backports02:45
zcat[1] dapper doesn't have lives.. I needed a 3rd party repo..02:45
newperslast question (until i run into some installation problem by chance)...where do i d/l the dapper iso?02:45
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_jasonzcat[1] : lives?02:45
five_laptop_jason, ahem...  i'm in dapper... :-)02:45
_jasonfive_laptop: then you should be in the dapper channel: #ubuntu+1 :)02:45
iceanyone have nvidia 6600 gt card using Dapper ?02:45
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five_laptopah02:46
five_laptopgracias02:46
zcat[1] video editor02:46
zcat[1] like kino except kino won't import my files :(02:46
slackernnewpers,  i got mine from http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/02:46
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slackernnewpers, but that's a swedish server though02:47
slackernnewpers, http://www.ubuntu.com/download might be better for you though.02:47
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l_hi, i have this suspision that my xserver is not using all available video memory, is there a way i can check?02:47
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JayAllOk, so my laptop has been freezing up lately - I mean, the whole thing just stops, no response, even the animation on the cursor stops (if there happens to be one at the time). This seems to happen at totally random, arbitrary moments when nothing is going on (I'm usually not even touching it). Is this in any way possibly related to Ubuntu? (p.s. the system goes bgack to normal after I knock...02:48
JayAll...it out and reboot)02:48
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anzio_anyone know anything about linpal?02:49
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zcat[1] JayAll: try running knoppix on it.. if that locks up, get a new laptop.02:49
slackernl_, you could read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find the information02:49
JayAll!linpal02:50
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JayAll02:50
slackernl_, mine says:  (II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=131072K, accessible=131072K (PCI BAR=131072K)02:50
JayAllzcat[1] : I was looking for an answer, not a suggestion. I'd have no problem trying to diagnose it myself; I just don't want to. ;)02:50
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JayAllThanks for your help though02:50
anzio_well specifically I'm being told there is no package "gtk+-2.0"02:50
anzio_is that a typo in the makefile?02:50
zcat[1] JayAll: well. Stop pasting into the channel, get off your lazy ass and stop expecting us to diagnose your problems for you.02:51
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anzio_whoa?02:52
JayAllanzio_: no, it's valid02:52
zcat[1] JayAll: seriously it sounds like a hardware problem anyhow..02:52
anzio_!gtk+-2.002:52
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, anzio_02:52
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JayAllzcat[1] : That's what I'm thinking02:52
JayAllanzio_: no that is the right spelling02:52
JayAlltry installing it with apt-get02:52
amachow do I make my windows mount readable by regular users?02:52
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slackern!ntfs02:53
ubotuntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:53
anzio_sudo apt-get gtk+-2.0 correct?02:53
na7eanyone know what channel would be appropriate for evolution issues?02:53
amachow do you know what triggers the bot knows about?02:53
amac!fat02:53
ubotuamac: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:53
JayAllamac: it's in /etc/fstab, read the man page on mount.ntfs; I don't know how to do it exactly02:53
juanky700hola02:53
JayAlls/know/remember02:53
Madpilotamac, /msg ubotu list02:53
JayAllanzio_: sudo apt-get install gtk+-2.002:53
anzio_ahh thank you02:53
amacyou know what someone needs to invent? They need to invent a karma help system. The more people you help, the more karma you get =)02:54
enyawyes thank you02:54
na7eanyone please?02:54
amacso you know people that contribute to help discussion and those that dont02:54
anzio_dang its telling me it can't find the package02:54
JayAll /applaud amac02:54
JayAllanzio_: apt-cache search gtk+-2.002:55
Madpilotamac, launchpad has karma (Ubuntu's bug reporter and other stuff website) but there's no links to lp from IRC or the forums02:55
amacits a great idea02:55
JayAllMadpilot: I think he meant for IRC :P02:55
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amacfor forums mostly02:55
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amachelp forums *02:55
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jacob_you still there?!02:55
jacob_sorry about that02:55
JayAllamac, slashdot02:55
jacob_i had some major trouble on my computer02:55
Wyredhi, anyone know the url for MAcromedia flash player plugin?02:55
jacob_i had to use another computer with chatzilla02:56
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_jasonubotu: tell Wyred about flash02:56
zcat[1] nah, then irc would get like slashdot.. karma whores pasting old and inappropriate help at irrelevent questions just to score karma02:56
jacob_it won't startup02:56
Wyredtried the one on the macromedia/go/get site and it's not pointing to anything02:56
amaczcat[1] , i am sure you could do something to discourage that02:56
spikebit's either karma whores or assholes, take your pick02:56
zcat[1] yeah.. not have a karma system )02:56
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jacob_you there?!02:57
Wyredty02:57
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jacob_... must have left :( (very helpful)02:57
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bradleyhi i've just installed ubuntu on my toshiba notebook and (for right now) i am trying to get the blue tooth to work-- does anyone have any advice02:57
hyphenatedWyred: flashplugin-nonfree is in the multiverse repository02:57
Madpilotubotu, tell bradley about bluetooth02:58
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na7eanyone had experience getting groupwise 6.5 client or evolution and a 6.5 groupwise server working?02:59
bradleyokay thanks i'm checkin' that out02:59
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jacob_well, sience he is gone... can someone tell me what to do, if on NDISwrapper, i try to put up a WEP key and the computer just freaks out and starts making me type extra letters and such, and then when i restart it won't let me boot all the way03:00
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jacob_w3ber: it won't let me PM :(03:01
jacob_ubotu, tell jacob_ about ndiswrapper03:02
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zcat[1] jacob_: using the modified drivers from ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net? the original drivers usually don't work till they're patched03:02
anzio_whats tyhat command to search for stuff? sudo apt-cache search or something?03:02
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wildsonquem e03:02
jacob_zcat[1] : what?!03:02
zcat[1] apt-cache search.. you can search as an ordinary user03:02
_jasonanzio_: apt-cache search, no sudo required03:02
watnundiswrapper & wireless_tool.28.tar.gz03:03
wildsonvc fala portugues03:03
anzio_thx03:03
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_jason!pt03:03
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.03:03
jacob_zcat[1] : but, i don't know how to install, plus i can't get it to boot03:03
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dabaRslow03:04
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Sky0231Is there anyone here who might be able to assists me in determining why my dual monitor setup is not working?03:04
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jacob_hold on... lemme see if it is booting yet.. may have to reinstall ubuntu :(03:04
slackernlearning is a slow and painful process :)03:05
jacob_is there any way to repair ubuntu just from the terminal?03:05
Madpilotjacob_, that depends what you broke ;)03:06
jacob_madpilot: :(03:06
Sky0231Does anyone know if an integrated video card that is not being used as the main adapter needs to be "initialized," or something along those lines, so that it will work?03:06
w3berjacob_, Boot into recovery mode.03:06
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jacob_w3ber: how?03:06
nadine__hello all03:06
l_can someone tell me what the proper usage of the rename command is? i am having som etrouble with it03:06
w3berIf you haven't modified your grub menu.lst file, you should have it in your boot loader menu.03:06
jacob_w3ber: can you tell me how to do that just using the terminal03:07
nadine__i'm having problems getting samba two work03:07
anseljhhi!  anyone here know about ubuntu-server?  if so, which is the latest dapper release of it and how is it?03:07
l_or can someoen tell me the best way to rename a file?03:07
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nadine__using two ubuntu boxes (one breezy, one dapper)03:07
nadine__but i've had this ish since hoary03:07
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jacob_w3ber: grub just tells me "Starting ubuntu in 3... 2... 1... *start*"03:07
w3berjacob_, Press a key during 3,2,1.03:07
jacob_w3ber: one sec03:08
watnujacob_: after repairing or reinstalling ubu, install: ndiswrapper & wireless_tool.28.tar.gz03:08
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Wyredta hyphenated03:08
nadine__basically: it just won't work03:08
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nadine__i just want to share home directories03:08
nadine__nothing fancy03:08
nadine__but it won't work03:08
roostishawanyone, is there an emulator like wine, but it emulates mac?03:09
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watnuthat would be nice, an osx 10.* emulator03:10
MSchoenHello, anyone available for a quick question?03:10
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Sky0231Mschoen, depends, whats the question?03:11
jacob_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1381003:11
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watnuMschoen: you already asked03:12
Zane42I'm trying to get an app for ubuntu that supports nzb.03:12
MSchoenSky0231: I was hoping someone could send me there sources.list, to update mine, mozilla-firefox doesnt seem to be working, I wanted to get some stable repositories.03:12
Zane42It looks like dapper has a package called nzb.03:12
nadine__can anyone help me with my samba problem?03:12
Zane42But it's not available for breezy?03:12
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ddonkynadine_ - just ask!03:13
watnunzbget03:13
Zane42Tried it watnu can't get it to work either.03:13
Zane42I've got the default perl install.03:13
watnuargh03:13
Zane42That may be the reason.03:13
MSchoenPerhaps someone would be kind enough to whisper me their sources.list content.03:13
Zane42I don't know.03:13
jacob_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1381003:13
lali_hey guys03:14
ddonkynadine_ - oh, sorry. I just back scrolled03:14
lali_how do i change the windows theme "colors"03:14
lali_the theme is way 2 bright03:14
lali_i wana modify the colors03:14
roostishawso there is no emulator like wine, but it emulates mac?03:14
lali_so its like black and white text03:14
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nadine__ddonky: actually03:14
nadine__just realized that my problem is with gnome/nautilus03:15
nadine__i can browse samba with kde just fine03:15
Sky0231mschoen: What distro do you have?03:15
watnuZane42: SABnzb-0.1.8 ?03:15
nadine__i mean konqueror03:15
Zane42watnu ok I'll give it a try.03:15
Zane42it's the ./configure gives an error.03:15
MSchoenUbuntu 5.1003:15
nadine__but if i try to browse the windows network through the Places --> Network servers menu I get 0 items03:15
MSchoenAha, Sky0231: I didnt notice that 4 addresses were commented by default in sources.list03:16
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lali_yo03:16
lali_how do i change my theme colors ?03:16
Sky0231mschoen: yep, you'll want to uncomment those03:16
Madpilotubotu, tell lali_ about themes03:17
MSchoenSky0231: Ah my bad, this is my first Ubuntu experience, from debian :P03:17
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slackern!themes03:17
Sky0231mschoen: I see, well, good luck03:17
watnu!beer03:17
ubotuwatnu: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:17
BlueLagunais there any way for me to automatically install -dev packages along with normal packages?03:17
lali_thx madpilot03:17
watnu:)03:17
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MSchoenDky0231: While you're here, this may be bonehead, but what is the proper way to update a certain package that you already have installed, lets say GAIM for example03:18
MSchoenSky0231*03:18
MSchoenapt-get upgrade <package>03:18
MSchoen?03:18
Zane42watnu when I try ./configure in nzbget I get the following: configure: error: "libxml2 header files were not found in /usr/include/libxml2."03:18
BlueLagunaMSchoen: the gaim beta is not in the repositories by the way03:18
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BlueLagunaif that's what you were going to upgrade to03:18
MSchoenAh ok.03:19
ddonkynadine_ - how about Places --> Connect to server...?03:19
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BlueLagunayou'll have to compile it manually03:19
MSchoenAlright, thank you kindly.03:19
BlueLagunaI'm using it right now03:19
BlueLagunaMSchoen: alternatively, you can search for a .deb package03:19
Sky0231Mschoen: If I am not mistaken, i think apt-get upgrade upgrades everything03:19
Sky0231Mschoen: HOnestly, Im very new to linux as a whole03:19
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nadine__ddonky: yup, that works.03:20
BlueLagunaI'm a long time linux desktop user tho03:20
BlueLagunaand server03:20
nadine__why won't it work while straight up browsing the network, though?03:20
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Sky0231I see. Ive been wanting to get into Linux for a long time, but I found it was a lot of work to get hardware configured. Like now, Im trying to get my dual monitors working.03:21
Zane42watnu I have libxml2 it's jsut  apparently not where it expects it to be any idea?03:21
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ddonkyI just tried to browse my roomies share, and it didn't show at first, so I used 'Connect to server' once, and now it shows up in Naut. I'm not sure why though03:21
BlueLagunaZane42: are you trying to compile something?03:22
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Zane42I'm trying to install nzbget03:22
Zane42so yeah...03:22
jacob_shut up03:22
jacob_i hat u03:22
Zane42unless I can find the package somewhere.03:22
jacob_shut up03:22
jacob_leave me alone03:22
BlueLagunaZane42: whenever you compile something, make sure you have the -dev package installed03:23
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watnuZane42: man symlink, to tell the application where to find03:23
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BlueLagunaZane42: in this case, libxml2-dev03:23
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BlueLagunaat least that what I'm assuming03:23
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=== Zane42 scratches his head... Like this ... apt-get install libxml2-dev
Zane42  ?03:24
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Zane42Nope that' doesn't work.03:24
Zane42mutter.03:24
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BlueLagunaZane42: well, first of all, are you running ./configure ?03:25
Zane42Yes03:25
Zane42That's what's giving me an error.03:25
BlueLagunadid you run ./configure again after installing libxml2-dev?03:25
Zane42I'm having trouble figuring out how to install that.03:25
Zane42apt-get install libxml2-dev doesn't work.03:26
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BlueLagunaZane42: what does it say?03:26
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Zane42Sorry I was typing it wrong.03:26
Zane42;-)03:26
BlueLaguna...03:26
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BlueLagunaok03:26
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Zane42Got a couple of warnings now but now error.03:27
Zane42So now make right?03:27
mugziecan someone help me add real and java to my firefox03:27
snakkayou don't want to use automatix to do that?03:27
mugzieto do what?03:27
snakkato add real and java03:27
mugziei can do that im new to linux03:28
Madpilotsnakka, he probably doesn't want to break his system...03:28
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Madpilot!automatix03:28
ubotuautomatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.03:28
ezili<-- formerly known as nadine_03:28
vipoetlol03:28
vipoetthats great03:28
snakkaI didn't know about easyubuntu03:28
Madpilotubotu, tell mugzie about java03:28
vipoetin every way03:28
Zane42BlueLaguna: make errors.03:29
snakkaI knew automatix isn't integrated with ubuntu very well, but it gets the job done for people with little time.03:29
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Zane42make: g++: Command not found03:29
BlueLagunaZane42: http://pastebin.com03:29
mugziealso how do i setup real player03:29
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BlueLagunamugzie: http://real.com03:29
snakkaI think the security problems in all the os's these days are drowning out all the other issues personally...03:29
mugzieok i went there03:30
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mugziei downloaded it but dont i have to instal in terminal?03:30
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grouthow can i get gdesklets to automatically start at startup?03:31
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Zane42I thought since03:31
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Zane42Mutter every time I do this, there's something else goes worng.03:32
Zane42er03:32
Zane42wrong03:32
Zane42I did apt-get install g++03:32
Zane42Now I've got a huge error.03:32
ericvwi was wondering if anyone could help me out with a cpu fan problem?  it kicks on at a certain temperature, but it won't kick off03:33
ericvwi have a dell inspiron 860003:33
Zane42Let me see if I can fix it myself.03:33
Zane42Be back in a bit.03:33
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daryl_I do not want my wine installation upgraded, because I've custom compiled it.  I went into Synaptic Package Manager, in ubuntu - breezy, and searched for wine, and selected package, and lock.  However, when i start my computer, it prompts me to upgrade wine.  any suggestions?03:39
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vipoeti hate wine03:40
vipoetsorry; cant help here03:40
daryl_the answer should be the same no matter what software i'm running03:40
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NoobSauceI have a question regarding kubuntu installation. I tried burning 3 kubuntu CD's (6.06 dapper) and none of them will boot. I've tried a debian netinst which works, and I have the boot order correct and everything, so I'm at a loss at to what the problem could be03:41
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vipoetyeah, i refuse to help windows binary hacks03:41
vipoetsorry; cant help here03:41
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daryl_noobsauce: fogive me, but just because the bootsource is selected to do the cdrom first, doesn't mean it will auto load03:42
daryl_noobsauce: it may require intervention03:42
daryl_ie hitting space, or selecitng it from a menu03:42
daryl_it depends on the board really03:42
NoobSaucethe debian cd booted up automatically... but I guess I'll try that03:42
tatosanAnyone knows if Ubuntu can be installed on a G5 dualprocessor Apple Mac?03:43
NoobSaucehold on just a sec...03:43
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daryl_I do not want my wine installation upgraded, because I've custom compiled it.  I went into Synaptic Package Manager, in ubuntu - breezy, and searched for wine, and selected package, and lock.  However, when i start my computer, it prompts me to upgrade wine.  any suggestions?03:43
Leminowhy is the searchengine's in firefox placed in the root-access-only catalogue /usr/lib? it's kinda hard to add new ones and organize them...03:43
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denverwhat is the package name for the kernel headers for 2.6.12-10-38603:44
daryl_mustard5: you got time for a question?03:44
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bimberidenver: linux-headers-2.6.12-10-38603:45
mustard5daryl_, possibly :)03:45
denverwell, i guess i could have figured that one out :)03:45
vipoetlol03:45
denverbut thanks bimberi03:45
Leminoif I add new ones, they end up in my home-directory, as they're supposed to, but they don't show up in firefox when the program is running :(03:45
daryl_mustard5: I do not want my wine installation upgraded, because I've custom compiled it.  I went into Synaptic Package Manager, in ubuntu - breezy, and searched for wine, and selected package, and lock.  However, when i start my computer, it prompts me to upgrade wine.  any suggestions?03:45
bimberidenver: np :)  (it's the linux bit that traps people - kernel seems more intuitive)03:45
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daryl_mustard5: and good evening! its great to see you.  I have World of Warcraft running like a rock!03:46
mustard5daryl_, hmmm...not quite sure..you say you 'locked' it..is that the same as 'pinning' it03:46
mustard5daryl_, thats good to hear03:46
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limenwhat program should I use to get my computer act as a server? Do I have to install apache?03:47
daryl_mustard5: i dunno about 'pinning" it... but if you go to thye synpatic, and cselect a package, then click on the package drop down menu, you'll see lock version03:47
tritiumlimen: depends on what kind of server you mean03:47
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limentritium, webserver03:47
mustard5daryl_, did you add the wine repositories to download this version you have now?03:48
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tritiumlimen: then yes, apache or apache203:48
_extricate_!define sudo03:48
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _extricate_03:48
YvonneNothing was found. Maybe you meant  1. pseudo  2. pseudo-  3. scudo  4. suds  5. Sudd  6. soda  7. sods  8. Sodom  9. Soddy 10. zooids 11. sudd 12. sawed-off 13. Saudi 14. pseuds03:48
_extricate_!sudo03:48
ubotufrom memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:48
hyphenatedlimen: installing apache is a good start :-)03:48
_extricate_!root03:48
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:48
limenok, thats what I'll do then ^^;03:48
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hyphenated!lamp03:48
ubotuLinux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP03:48
limenthx03:49
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hyphenatedlimen: what ubotu just said might be more inline with your overall goal :-)03:49
tokennrg!lsofs03:49
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tokennrg03:49
tokennrg!lsof03:49
ubotulist open files03:49
mustard5daryl_, I'm just curious if you did, as you could just comment out the line for the wine repositories in your sources.list and it would no longer even know about the update03:49
tritium!botabuse03:50
ubotuYou can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.03:50
daryl_mustard5: I beleive so, but its possible i downloaded the souce directly03:50
daryl_mustard5: i could remove the sourceforge.net repositories from my rrepositories03:51
mustard5daryl_, try opening up your /etc/apt/sources.list  and putting a '#' in front of the lines for the wine repos..then sudo apt-get update03:51
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LadyNikonevening03:52
mustard5daryl_, at that stage the system won't even know that an update exists, so it will stop nagging you to update03:52
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daryl_mustard5: that fixed it03:52
mustard5daryl_, cool03:52
LadyNikonI have a breezy badger install that for some reason my network card is not working03:52
daryl_mustard5: thanks.  : )03:52
LadyNikonit sees the wap03:52
mustard5daryl_, I'm a bit the same myself..once I have wine working I don't like to change anything03:52
daryl_mustard5: and I totally reinstalled ubuntu-breezy, and ditched dapper.  I am now running on wine, and not cedega03:53
LadyNikonbut its not connecting03:53
daryl_mustard5: its running awesome03:53
mustard5daryl_, excellent :)03:53
daryl_mustard5: now that i switched i dont' have the mosue cursor bug... and the game is just much more stable03:53
daryl_mustard5: the graphic interface is better, etc03:53
LadyNikonif i do "iwconfig" It sees the ESSID but no signal or anything.03:54
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daryl_mustard5: although I have noticed the sound is more 'crackly' w/this installation.  any suggestions?  when i switch between workspaces, wow kinda hangs on the sound for a moment before going to normal03:54
BlueLagunahmm, how do I add /usr/local/lib to my library path again?03:54
dooglusis there any way I can ask mplayer to buffer up a few megs of the movie I'm trying to watch before playing it?  It's on an SMB mount on a remote windows box03:54
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mustard5daryl_, I don't have any ideas about that situation unfortunately :)03:54
puntoUY hello.. i've installed the apache2-mpm-worker package.. i i want now install the php for use phph pages.. wath package need?03:54
SiLvALyNiNhey, can anyone tell me whether or not I will have any problems installing this on a SATA drive?03:54
daryl_mustard5: : ) ah well thanks a bunch for the help w/wine03:55
daryl_have a great evening!03:55
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mustard5daryl_, will do :)03:55
daryl_and vipoet, good luck in your anti-wine-windows-hacker mentality03:55
daryl_hehe03:55
daryl_night all!03:55
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LadyNikonI don't understand though.. because all I did was reinstall ubuntu03:56
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LadyNikonworked fine before hand.03:56
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rabidphagegreetings03:56
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mugziehey why is the xubuntu channel dead?03:57
rabidphageis it possible to share internet connection in infrastructure mode using off the shelf wireless cards?03:57
dooglusis there any way I can ask mplayer to buffer up a few megs of the movie I'm trying to watch before playing it?  It's on an SMB mount on a remote windows box03:57
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LadyNikondooglus: some where in the options you might see something03:58
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rabidphagedooglus: there is a way but i fogot how03:58
LadyNikonrabidphage: some thing i was thinking.03:58
dooglusLadyNikon: I see the -cache option, but it only seems to work if the movie is being streamed.03:58
dooglussince it's on a mounted filesystem, mplayer ignores the option.03:58
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LadyNikonah03:59
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LadyNikonwhy would you want to buffer a movie on the HD?03:59
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ablyssdooglus: you can wget the file and use mplayer to read the contents of the file while its downloading03:59
rabidphageyeah why?03:59
dooglusLadyNikon: it's not on the HD03:59
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dooglusablyss: I can do that, but then I can't skip back and forth through the movie03:59
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vipoetwine makes me puke04:00
rabidphageis it possible to share internet connection in infrastructure mode using off the shelf wireless cards?04:00
dooglusablyss: it says "Cannot seek in raw AVI streams. (Index required, try with the -idx switch.)" if I try04:00
SiLvALyNiNwill i have a problem installing this on a sata drive?04:00
rabidphagei can't afford to buy a router but i've got some wireless cards lying around04:00
ablyssdooglus, got me there.. i dont use mplayer much anymore04:01
dooglusablyss: I'm not sure how to wget from a mounted filesystem - I used 'cat' instead04:01
hyphenateddooglus: and when you use -idx, what happens?04:01
dooglusablyss: what do you use?  can that buffer files?04:01
dooglushyphenated: -idx reads the whole file before starting to play it.  that's no use to me04:01
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dooglushyphenated: if I wanted to wait that long I'd just copy the file to my local disk first...04:02
ablyssdooglus, i use xfmedia04:02
dooglusablyss: I'll try that04:02
SiLvALyNiNumm can anyone answer me?04:02
FliesLikeABrickno SiLvALyNiN  you should not04:03
SiLvALyNiNthank you04:03
LadyNikoni guess i will check tomorrow gn all04:03
hyphenateddooglus: it's odd that -cache isn't working for you04:03
dooglusablyss: it's taking a long time to start up - maybe that's a good sign.04:03
SiLvALyNiNalso, should i make a partition now for it, or should i do that while installing04:03
vipoetlates lady04:03
dooglushyphenated: I don't think -cache works when it's reading from a file04:03
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puntoUYla madre q lo pario... no puedo instalar php.... gringos04:03
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BlueEaglepuntouy: #ubuntu-es por favour.04:04
Chicken__FireHi, who knows a 3d file manager project ?04:04
BlueEaglechicken__fire: You want to manage 3d files?04:04
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puntoUYthanks blueeagle04:04
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BlueEaglechicken__fire: ...or do you want to manage files in 3d?04:04
dooglusablyss: xfmedia seems to play the video OK, but without any sound.  or pictures.04:04
vipoettc's?04:05
vipoet^waste04:05
dooglusablyss: I do see a nice little timer counting up the minutes and seconds though04:05
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ablyssdooglus: bummer04:05
Chicken__Firemanage files in 3d.04:05
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vipoetxgl based?04:05
BlueEagledooglus: that's going on bash.org04:05
KeithWeisshari have a new intel pentium d pc with windows xp04:05
dooglusBlueEagle: nice :)04:05
KeithWeissharit has an intel 945g motherboard04:06
KeithWeissharis ubuntu compatible with intel hd audio04:06
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BlueEaglechicken__fire: brutal file manager (I recomend running it in read only mode) http://www.forchheimer.se/bfm/04:07
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Echoanybody knows how to recover yaboot on a multi-boot mac?(osx & ubuntu)04:08
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KeithWeissharis ubuntu compatible with the sigmatel stac 9220 chipset04:08
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roeanyone around per chance?04:08
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BlueEagleroe: I'm here, not by chance but by choice. (or something)04:09
puntoUYi heve installed the package apache2-mpm-worker... and my problem is wich package i need to enable php.. not prefork04:09
puntoUYwhat package i need?04:10
roeI am trying to install flight 7... and it keeps hanging at 50% of "starting up the partioner"04:10
BlueEagleroe: #ubuntu+1 please (as it sais in the topic of this channel)04:11
Madpilotroe, #ubuntu+1 for Dapper questions04:11
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roeah.. sorry :)04:11
BlueEagle!info innolab04:13
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BlueEaglechicken__fire: also see http://sourceforge.net/projects/innolab/ (apperantly not in the repos)04:13
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cooliohey guys.. i'm very new to linux04:26
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coolioi just installed mythtv04:27
cooliobut i dont know the path where it is installed.04:27
cooliois there a default directory where programs are installed?04:27
crimsuncoolio: /usr/bin .04:27
cooliothanks04:27
coolioinstalled mythtv by using sudo apt-get install mythtv04:28
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coolioi installed*04:28
coolioand i dont see it in /usr/bin04:29
cooliocould it be installed in a directory other than /usr/bin/mythtv?04:29
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paradizelosthowdy!04:31
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Chri[s] coolio, sudo find / -name mythtv04:31
crimsuncoolio: if you installed it, you should have /usr/bin/myth{epg,frontend,progfind,tv,osd}04:31
crimsuncoolio: those are all part of mythtv-frontend, which is a dependency of the mythtv metapackage04:31
slackern'which mythtv' will also say where it is04:32
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Chri[s] whereis mythtv, will as well04:32
SiLvALyNiNok can somebody please help, i just tried running a Live cd, and that won't even work04:33
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SiLvALyNiNi then did a cd integrity test, and it said that the first .cloop file failed the MD5 checksum04:33
SiLvALyNiNso what do I do?04:33
Chri[s] SiLvALyNiN: do you have an 8x speed cdrom?04:33
cooliothanks for your advice04:33
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SiLvALyNiNumm, no it's 52x cd-rw04:33
Chri[s] reburn it04:33
SiLvALyNiNshould i burn it slower?04:33
MagicFabhello04:33
Chri[s] yes04:34
Chri[s] like 16x04:34
MagicFabhas anyone seen how the network printer detection in the latest cups works ?04:34
cooliohum.. these are not folders right?04:34
MagicFabit' s in the new features, can' t seem to find it04:34
untunghi04:34
SiLvALyNiNok, and would you be able to link me to a md5 checksum checker or something04:34
SiLvALyNiNto make sure the iso isn't corrup to begin with04:34
untunghave anyone installed dvd burner in ubuntu 5.104:34
coolioi have a file called 'mythtv' without an extension04:34
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coolioam i correct?04:35
coolioare files in /usr/bin/ files without file extensions?04:35
tokennrgcoolio: most executable files (namely compiled ones) don't have extensions04:35
paradizelostcoolio: most things in unix/linux don't have extensions04:35
tokennrgyou just type 'mythtv' or whaterver and it runs04:35
eggzeckcoolio, they don't need extensions. Even though they can have them04:35
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paradizelostlinux knows what the files do, there's info inside of them that tells it what to do w/ it04:36
paradizelostbasically04:36
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eggzeckcoolio, take for instance a Perl progrem: 'perl.pl' will work even if it were named 'perl'. It's all in the permissions, if its set to 'x' then it's executable04:36
tokennrgalso, linux isn't quite lain out like a Windows setup is, a folder for each app.  Executables are in one place, needed librairies in another, configs in another04:36
eggzeckcoolio, also, there's a thing called 'the shebang line'; which looks like this: #!/usr/bin/perl (which tells the system which program will execute the rest of the file)04:37
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clifcan any one help I'm trying to install yahoo messanger and it won't install becaus it says it need libssl0.9.6 or better I have libssl0.9.7 installed and the yahoomessange pagacge will not install any one know how I can fix this problem04:37
SiLvALyNiNwould somebody please be able to tell me what the correct md5 checksum is for the amd64 live cd?04:37
crimsunSiLvALyNiN: breezy? dapper?04:37
coolioalright thanks!04:38
MagicFabclif: dapper ?04:38
SiLvALyNiNbreezy i believe04:38
krazykitrighto.  i want to install avidemux, but i need to add a deb line to my sources.list.  there are 3 choices:sarge, etch, and sid.  obviously, it's for debian, but which one is closest for breezy?04:38
coolioso are the programs in /usr/bin dependent on any other files on the system?04:38
tokennrg7fbe948be484ba2f4740ab6113890652  ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso04:38
coolioother than standard libraries04:38
crimsunSiLvALyNiN: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/breezy/MD5SUMS04:38
clifdapper? I'm new to ununtu is that something thats part of ubuntu04:38
paradizelostclif: why don't you just use gaim?04:39
SiLvALyNiNwow mine is completely different04:39
MagicFabdapper is the version04:39
crimsunSiLvALyNiN: so for amd64 live, 8523ee4b5490c9b77ac4ec5e5a12b2f504:39
paradizelost!dapper04:39
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)04:39
crimsuntokennrg: you pasted install04:39
tokennrggah, oops.  My bad04:39
SiLvALyNiNmine is completely different it seems04:39
SiLvALyNiNstarts with bf41...04:39
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clifgaim will that allow me to talk to my friends on yahoo or will that fix my problem... sorry it's been over 10 years since I have had a unix machine04:40
krazykitwhich branch of debian is breezy based on?  sid?04:40
sol_hello04:40
crimsunkrazykit: none04:40
paradizelostclif: gaim lets you use yahoo,msn,aol,irc,icq etc... all in one program04:40
paradizelosthowever, it doesn't have support for the video stuff, IIRC04:40
SiLvALyNiNshould i just re-download the iso?04:40
krazykitcrimsun: really?  guess it was hoary, then.04:40
crimsunkrazykit: we sync with sid at the beginning of each dev cycle, and then we pull from sid/experimental periodically04:41
clifok whould I find that in the package installed or do I need to go download that from some where04:41
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paradizelostclif: it's already installed.04:41
krazykitbut anyway, the previous question still stands.  when using packages for debian, should i use sarge etch or sid?04:41
paradizelostapplications->internet->Gaim Instant Messenger04:41
krazykitbecause as far as i can tell, avidemux isn't in uni/multiverse04:41
crimsunkrazykit: you can use any /source/ package from Debian if you recompile it on your Ubuntu system. Don't attempt to just pull binary debs from Debian repos.04:42
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crimsun!info avidemux dapper04:42
ubotuavidemux: (a small editing software for avi (especially DivX)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 2607 kB, Installed size: 6756 kB04:42
clifok thanks, I'll give it a try... Thanks ppl for being so nice and helping me!04:42
krazykiti'm not running dapper though :-P04:42
paradizelostkrazykit: you could go ahead and upgrade...04:42
crimsunkrazykit: then either request a backport to breezy, or dist-upgrade to dapper04:42
SiLvALyNiNis there anyway for me to download the file PROPERLY, because my MD5 seems to be different04:42
paradizelostkrazykit: it'll be final in about 2 weeks anyways...04:42
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krazykiti tried the flights a few weeks ago.  totally trashed my system04:43
paradizelostkrazykit: flight 7 is much better.  were you using beta 1?04:44
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krazykityeah04:44
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paradizelostthat's ur problem then04:44
paradizelostyou can upgrade your current install04:44
paradizelost!dapper04:44
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)04:44
paradizelost!upgrade04:44
ubotuupgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.04:44
krazykit... i know how to upgrade.04:44
paradizelosti'm running it on 4 systems right now, and haven't had any problems04:45
paradizelostsome are fresh installs, some are upgrades04:45
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SiLvALyNiNwould i be better off installing dapper?04:45
krazykiti'd just prefer to back this install before messing with it.  and i don't feel like digging out my external hard drive and a boot CD04:45
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paradizelostSiLvALyNiN: it is technically still in beta, for about 2-3 weeks yet, but it has lots of improvements04:46
paradizelostand i haven't had any stability issues.04:46
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paradizelostjust a LOT of updates to do if you install off of the install cd04:46
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huraxbut there are some people who went to ubuntu for not having to choose between perpetual beta and very old stable releases04:47
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DouglasHello, is there a way to create a right click keyboard shortcut with Ubuntu?  I am on a mac so I have a one button mouse.04:48
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clifOh heres another question is there any way to get ubuntu to get a screen resulation highter then 800 X 600 It gives me only 640 X 480 or 800 X 600? I normally run 1024 X 768 and I like that better?04:50
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DouglasHello, is there a way to create a right click keyboard shortcut with Ubuntu?  I am on a mac so I have a one button mouse.04:51
guest_aaronDo you know what the graphics card in it is, Clif?04:51
guest_aaronIs it a centrino?04:51
echobinarygreetings all04:51
DouglasI am trying to save an image off the internet and I cant right click to save it04:51
clifarron: I'm not sure my machine is a compaq presario 1200 if that helps04:52
echobinarydoes anyone have an idea when the official nvidia-glx will be upgraded to 1.0.817804:52
echobinaryis that somethign coming with dapper?04:52
crimsun!info nvidia-glx dapper04:52
l_is there anyway to check and see if my xserver is using all available memory04:52
ubotunvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.8756+2.6.15.9-4 (dapper), Packaged size: 3956 kB, Installed size: 12224 kB04:52
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huraxclif: even the vesa driver is able to do 1024x76804:52
echobinaryis that out now?04:52
slackernl_, check the log /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:52
crimsunechobinary: the version that the bot quoted is in dapper right now04:53
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echobinaryawesome04:53
echobinarythen perhaps my 7300GS wioll work04:53
hyphenatedDouglas: got a number pad? :-)04:53
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mugziehas anyone here ever used thunar?04:53
Douglashyphenated: nah... im on my apple laptop04:53
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echobinaryany practical "gotchas" to installing dapper at this point?04:54
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clifHurax: hummm when I try to change the res it just gives the the too choices... oh well I might just have to live with it for now..... I probably should try to get my PS2 mouse working first it won't use it it keeps wanting to use the touch pad that I don't like to use04:54
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gleesondis there a peice of software that I can use to view wmv04:54
crimsungleesond: maybe mplayer04:54
fiveirongleesond: totem, vlc, etc04:54
echobinarygleesond: look into easyubuntu04:54
huraxclif: you probably should reconfigure the x server04:55
gleesondvlc does not04:55
echobinaryand or enable more repositories and search for w32codecs :)04:55
UKMattdoes anyone know any .iso burners for ubuntu?04:55
huraxdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:55
gleesondtotem does not seem to either04:55
guest_aaronClif: what do you get from  lshal | grep Graphic04:55
tritiumUKMatt: nautilus does a fine job04:55
hyphenatedDouglas: hehe ok. there's a way to do it using the keyboard-based "mouse" that X has. there might be a shortcut key that switches the mouse between modes04:55
guest_aaron(from a terminal)04:55
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chicken_FireUKMatt: k3b04:56
hyphenatedDouglas: a quick google search says "F11" and "F12" change them .. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87757.html04:56
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Douglason my Mac OSX its just CTRL byt I can't find the oine for the linux04:56
UKMatttritium, any idea why ubuntu is recognizing the .iso as a compressed file?04:56
Douglashyphenated: ok cool thanks... i will check that out04:56
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tritiumUKMatt: are you using gnome?  Can you right-click and select burn-to-disc?04:57
Douglashyphenated: yup F12 works... thanks a lot for the help04:57
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hyphenatedDouglas: that page explains briefly how to change it to a different key04:57
UKMatttritium, yeah i am in gnome.. haha i didnt see that option ty04:57
hyphenatedso you could probably make it more like OSX04:57
tritiumUKMatt: :)04:57
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UKMatttritium, does that make it an image or a data cd though04:57
Douglashyphenated: thanks I will read on it04:58
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tritiumUKMatt: it'll burn it properly to a bootable CD.  It won't be a data CD.04:58
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UKMatttritium, good that's what I'm shooting for04:58
guest_aaronI have a quick question for you all: Does the term "Double-tap" mean that I should be able to tap the touchpad with two fingers at the same time and have it double click?04:58
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tritiumUKMatt: :)04:58
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UKMatttritium, tyvm04:59
clifAny one have any suggestions on how to get the PS2 mouse to install insted of the touch pad mouse on the compaq presario 1200 laptop04:59
_h4xI installed ndiswrapper but, i don't know how to configure //pl0x help04:59
huraxclif_: that's all in the xorg.conf05:00
huraxdon't know about an easy configuration program though05:01
_h4xI installed ndiswrapper but, i don't know how to configure //pl0x help05:01
clif_hurax: ok well I'll go look and see what I can find anything I should look for or put in there to make it work05:01
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_h4xpl0x help me...05:02
_h4xwhenever i attempt to use WEP my computer gets all retarted05:02
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_h4xit makes me type everything 80 times and it won't start up correctly... i have to reinstall ubuntu05:03
_h4x:(05:03
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_h4xwhat should i do?05:03
tritium_h4x: how do you configure WEP?05:04
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_h4xnot really sure anymore05:04
huraxthere are sections for "InputDevice"05:04
crackomy hard drive recently mounted as read only and alot of things have input out put errors and i am trying to backup as much as i can to dvds05:04
_h4xsomething like "sudo wep yourkey"05:04
irflashrexum hello how do you get gcc for ubuntu05:04
tritium_h4x: man wireless05:05
crackois there away i can list all the files with the input output errors?05:05
tritiumirflashrex: sudo apt-get install build-essential05:05
_h4xyeah... it is hard to install05:05
tritium_h4x: no, it's trivial05:05
_h4xtritium: orly!?05:05
_h4xtritium: lol05:05
tritium_h4x: read that manpage05:05
_h4xtritium: ?05:06
tritium_h4x: man wireless05:06
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fiendskull9hey, does someone wanna test my radio station?05:06
_h4xsure, how?05:06
_h4xwhat ip?05:06
fiendskull9open xmms, or amarok, or rythymbox (or any media player for that matter)05:06
tritium_h4x: type that in a terminal05:06
fiendskull9and do open location - http://12.201.47.48:8000/listen.pls05:06
cdubya_h4x, why not just use the networking config....? It's fairly straightforward....just click on the wireless connection, then properties, then put  in your ESSID and WEP Key, activate, then click OK and you should be good to go.05:07
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l_can someone help me? i have installed java according to the directions on the website but according to java.com i do not have java installed05:07
tritium_h4x: you're running breezy, or dapper05:07
clif_anyone know where I can find the xorg.conf file05:07
tritiumclif_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:07
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fiendskull9whoever just connected, you had a bit of a hiccup :P05:08
clif_ok thanks tririum05:08
_h4xtritumL breasy05:08
_h4xcdubya: how do i install05:08
cdubyafiendskull9, works fine here in rhythmbox05:08
wyGot my file permissions confused by vfat partition. Any ideas about fixing them? I want a script that can return files to their normal permissions05:08
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fiendskull9cdubya, ight, have any requests? lol05:09
tritium_h4x: it's already installed05:09
cdubya_h4x, System > Administration > Networking05:09
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irflashrexi got some errors tritium05:09
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l_can someone tell me what it means if a symbolic link is red on black in color?05:09
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_h4xcdubya: yeah... it don't reconginze wifi cards05:09
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cdubyafiendskull9, heh, naw, just wanted to let you know. :-)05:09
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_h4xtritium: i need something that works with wifi05:09
_jasonl_: that means whatever it is pointing to isn't there05:10
WORDhi all, just completed ubuntu installation. I go to boot up and everything goes fine, grub loads and all that but after about 10 seconds a "maximum tempurature exceeded, shutting down" warning comes up05:10
_h4xhey, how do i run a program.... something like: "gksudo program"?05:10
crackohow can i fix these input output erros on my hard drive?05:10
WORDive checked in cmos and i have temp. warnings disabled05:10
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tritium_h4x: it does work with WEP05:10
haboynid help05:10
clif_I found the mouse section in the xorg.conf file what would I put in it to make it use the ps2 external mouse?05:10
JonBoonWORD, are your fans working?05:10
haboyanyone05:11
_h4xyeah... but it freezez my comp when i try to use it05:11
WORDyes05:11
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mageknightnid help please05:11
WORDCPU fan is working, cmos says cpu is at normal operating temp05:11
WORDCPU heatsink isnt even warm to the touch05:11
mageknightcan anyone help me05:11
RobNycAnyone here using x1600 ?05:11
tritium_h4x: explain in more detail.  It works for the vast majority of users05:11
_jasonmageknight: just ask your question05:11
JonBoonhmm, then im not sure, i've never put ubuntu on a machine that uses that temperature stuff05:11
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WORDits weird05:12
cdubya_h4x, is your wireless interface listed in /etc/network/interfaces?05:12
_h4xtritium: it gets all laggy, and it makes me make tons of strokes when i only type one05:12
_h4xtritum: then it just won't start up: it freezes on the part where it says "gettting networking interfaces"05:12
mageknight-jason: everytime i play my totem movie player. the sound is always delayed05:12
WORDand it shows up as like "(59359835.395735) Maximum tempurature exceeded, shutting down" so I think its a ubuntu thing05:12
irflashrextritium: id umped errors on the screen05:12
_h4xtritum: then i reinstall05:12
mageknight-jason: whats wrong with it???05:12
l__jason: the correct sytntax for creating a symbolic link is ln-s file $path, correct?05:12
_h4xcdubya: hold on... lemme check05:12
tritiumirflashrex: what?05:12
irflashrexE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:13
irflashrexE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:13
_h4xcdubya: how do i use that?05:13
mageknight-jason: everytime i play my totem movie player. the sound is always delayed05:13
_jasonl_: yes with a space after the ln and where file is the thing $path is pointing to05:13
cdubya_h4x, pico /etc/network/interfaces05:13
shigutsoi cant make Shockwave work in Firefox 1.0.8, the one that comes with Ubuntu05:13
mustard5irflashrex, do you have synaptic open?05:13
shigutsoi've followed this tutorial:05:13
shigutsohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-55dd46852b91060cde557660462b56e31cac305f05:13
shigutsobut without sucess... what should i do?05:13
mageknighteverytime i play my totem movie player. the sound is always delayed05:13
_jasonmageknight: you don't have to repeat05:13
_h4xcdubya: i don't have a "interfaces" folder05:14
tritiumirflashrex: you must have synaptic open05:14
mageknight-jason: sorry05:14
irflashrexum yes if it is the add applications dialog05:14
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cdubya_h4x, open terminal and type that command05:14
tritium_h4x: it's a file, not a folder05:14
_h4xok05:14
cdubya_h4x, Applications > Accessories > Terminal05:14
_jasonmageknight: did you try different file types, different players?05:14
fiendskull9if anyone else is interested in my radio station, just join #clayradio05:14
_h4xcdubya: wow! lots of stuff05:15
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irflashrexi gota reboot add applications just crashed05:15
mustard5irflashrex, yeah that related to synaptic05:15
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BrunnoPEwhat's the name of that "add and remove applications" program ? i need to apt-get it for xubuntu...05:15
mageknight-jason: the only player i have is the totem movie player05:15
cdubya_h4x, do you see any reference to ath0 or wlan or anything of that nature?05:15
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mageknight-jason: both avi and avseq are delayed05:15
_h4xcdubya: eth0  is it05:15
shigutsoi can't make Shockwave works with Firefox. I've already followed the wiki.ubuntu's guide, but it didn't work...05:15
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tritium_h4x: please paste your /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin05:16
cdubya_h4x, k. so does it have your essid and key there with it?05:16
_h4xkk05:16
mageknight_jason: and another problem is, everytime i nid to play a vcd i hav to insert it b4 it could play05:16
Douglasdo wireless cards not work with live cds?05:16
mag_someone can help me with compiz on nvidia ?05:16
cdubyayeah, what tritium said. :-)05:16
mustard5BrunnoPE, not sure what its called...I just tried looking in my menu editor for a name, but no luck finding it05:16
mageknight_jason: but when i try to open it in the menu, i can't play. in only plays automatically when its inserted05:17
RobNycwhy is my video showing up wrong05:17
RobNycvideo[1002:71c2 @ Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface] 05:17
_h4xhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1382005:17
_h4xcdubya: ^05:17
_jasonmageknight: I'm tempted to blame esd for your sound delay, don't know about your second problem.  Try using mplayer and see if it happens when you set the output to alsa05:18
cdubya_h4x, doesn't look like you've got it setup. :-)05:18
BrunnoPEmustard5 thanks anyway... i've got the update-manager but this other thing doesn't seem to have a name... :)05:18
_h4xcdubya: lol05:18
_jasonubotu: tell mageknight about mplayer05:18
cdubyaheh05:18
shigutsoi can't make Shockwave works with Firefox. I've already followed the wiki.ubuntu's guide, but it didn't work...05:18
_h4xcdubya: i had it set up... but then i had to reinstall ubuntu05:18
cdubya_h4x, ouch.05:18
_h4xcdubya: i need someone to tell me how to do it again05:18
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mageknight_jason: i tried the mplayer but theres an error displayed05:19
cdubya_h4x, the install didn't pick it up?05:19
_h4xcdubya, lol05:19
_jasonmageknight: what error?05:19
_h4xcdubya: i think so... but, i can't config05:19
l_sudo sudo _jason what does it mean when my symbolic link appears red on black?05:19
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_h4xcdubya: can you tell me what to do05:20
_jasonl_: don't sudo me :P  It means that the link is dangling, it is pointing to a file that does not exist05:20
l__jason: i used ln -s source destination dir and it came up red on black05:20
_jasonl_: paste the exact command you used05:20
l_alright05:20
_h4xcdubya: i am pretty sure that i was connected to the network... but, when i tryed to put in WEP, i had the symtoms above05:20
cdubya_h4x, well, I can try my best.....and then let anyone else chime in if I'm totally wacking your system....:-P05:20
_h4xcdubya: lol05:21
_h4xcdubya: ok05:21
DouglasDoes anyone know how I could get my Mac wireless card to work?  I am running the live version of Ubuntu05:21
shigutsohow can I make Shockwave works with Firefox? I've already followed the wiki.ubuntu's guide, but it didn't work...05:21
cdubya_h4x, might try editing the interfaces file to add an interface.....05:21
_h4xcdubya: ok05:21
l__jason: http://pastebin.com/71286805:21
_jasonshigutso: macromedia does not make a shockwave plugin for linux05:21
_jason!shockwave05:21
ubotuUnfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!05:21
cdubya_h4x, I can give you what I have in mine so that you've kinda got a guideline.....05:21
_h4xcdubya: i think that there was a tutorial on the fourms05:22
_h4xcdubya: i will check it out05:22
_h4xcdubya: i had it work.. up untill wep... i can IRC you when i come to that05:22
shigutso_jason, yes, I know that, but even using Wine, I can't make Shockwave works... :/05:22
_h4xcdubya: if you want05:22
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tritium_h4x: there are no wireless settings in your interfaces files05:22
Android_Dwhat is the format for changing file permissions in ubuntu?05:22
_jasonshigutso: #winehq might be able to help better with wine05:22
_h4xcdubya: yeah... i think that i need to configure ndisgtk or ndiswrapper05:23
shigutso_jason, ok... thank you :)05:23
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_jasonl_: it's easier if you specify the full path for the source05:23
tritium_h4x: use the gnome configuration tool, or read the manpage via "man wireless" to figure out how to edit yoru interfaces file yourself05:23
cdubya_h4x, k, I can try to help with what I can....just lemme know.05:23
_h4xcdubya: manpage?05:23
_h4xcdubya: what is "man wireless?"05:23
_h4xubotu, tell _h4x about manpage05:24
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tritium_h4x: a manual page.  type that command in the terminal05:24
Android_Dcan anybody help me out with that simple problem?05:24
cdubya_h4x, when you issue the man command, you're requesting the manual page for that entry following the command05:24
_h4xok05:24
_jasonAndroid_D: right click > properties05:24
Trashcanmust not h4x very well05:24
l__jason: thank you, that worked.05:24
Trashcan:o05:24
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Android_D<_jason> I the chechboxes in properties is diabled05:25
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Android_DI am looking to do it in the terminal05:25
ahmeniwhee, had my debian vserver broken into today.. damn script kiddies05:25
_jasonAndroid_D: you can only modify permissiosn for files you own05:25
cdubya_h4x, what kinda card is it?05:25
Android_Dyeah, I want to own the file05:25
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tritiumahmeni: VNC?05:25
Android_Dso I am logged as the su in the terminal and am looking for the command line to alter permissions05:25
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_jasonAndroid_D: chmod is the command in the terminal to change permissions, chown is to change ownership.  You really should not change ownership of anything outside of your $HOME though05:25
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Android_Dheh05:26
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Android_DI had a space05:26
Android_D"ch mod" instead of chhmod05:26
Android_Dthanks05:26
Android_D;)05:26
ahmenitritium: Nope.  Haven't found the cause yet though, my guess is an out of date web package on our web server05:26
_h4xcdubya: WG311 by netgear05:27
ubuntuhey can i join?05:27
_h4xcdubya: sorry, i was looking at the man05:27
cdubya_h4x, k.05:27
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ubuntucan i?05:27
_jasonubuntu: join what?05:28
tritium_h4x: you need "wireless-mode managed", and "wireless-essid YOUR_ESSID", etc.05:28
ubuntui have some questions to ask...05:28
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_h4xcdubya: sorry, can you tell me how to install .deb S?05:29
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cdubya_h4x, sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb05:30
_h4xthanks05:30
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_jasonubuntu: you can just ask them to the channel and if someone knows they will try to help05:30
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tritium_h4x: better to install from ubuntu repositories via apt-get.  What are you installing?05:31
_h4xtritium: ok05:31
mageknighterror font on my mplayer05:31
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_h4xtritium: i already did now05:31
kwyHola05:31
tritium!es05:31
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:31
ubuntujason my problem is i dont know how to operate an ubuntu os that much05:31
_h4xtritium: can you tell me how to run a program that is not in the applications thingy?05:31
tritium_h4x: what was it?05:31
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_h4xtritium: ndisgtk05:32
JonBoonDoes anyone know which version of ubuntu comes with the book Begining Ubuntu Linux, from novice to proffesional?05:32
tritium_h4x: from the command line05:32
cdubya_h4x, gksudo ndisgtk05:32
_h4xtritium, it was easier to install then nidwrapper.05:32
_h4xty05:32
kwyalguien me podria decir como se llama la libreria de los win codecs se que es w32........ pero no recuerdo que mas05:32
tritium!es05:32
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:32
tritiumkwy: ^^05:32
ubuntu:) im in the office and my boss just let me surf this05:32
mageknightNew face failed. font path is wrong. in my mplayer05:33
_jasonmageknight: install mplayer-fonts package05:33
mageknighthow???05:33
mageknightwhat's the command _jason05:33
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_jasonmageknight: do you know about synaptic, apt-get, and aptitude?05:33
_jasonor any one of those really?05:33
mageknight_jason: No. i'm a newbie in linux05:33
jacob_sorry, i pressed alt-f4 instead of alt-f2 lol05:33
_jasonmageknight: how did you install mplayer?05:34
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mageknight_ jason: i just type sudo apt-get command for the mplayer05:34
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_jasonmageknight: right, so to install mplayer-fonts, you would do: sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts        but there is a nice gui program you can use too and you can access it by going to system > administration > synaptic05:35
jacob_hold on.. need to restart05:35
ppjjji seriously just had a restaurant manager call my 24/7 emergency support line and ask me to "dial in and unfreeze his mouse"05:35
ppjjjat midnight05:35
mageknightyou mean the package manager right??05:35
_jasonmageknight: yes05:35
mageknight_jason: how do i use this05:35
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_jasonubuntu: tell mageknight about synaptic05:36
tyleranyone here uses giFT p2p can u pls help me?05:36
mageknight_jason: theres an error on the sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts05:36
_jasonmageknight: what is the error? (if it is long, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to post it and give us a link)05:37
mageknight_jason: unable to lock administratoion directory05:37
_jasonmageknight: did you use sudo?05:37
mageknightyes05:37
mageknighti'll paste it to be extact05:37
_jasonmageknight: do you have synaptic open at the same time?05:37
_jasonmageknight: it's ok, I know the error05:37
mageknightheres the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1382105:38
mageknightyes05:38
_jasonmageknight: you have to close synaptic, because it uses the same database as apt-get05:38
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ahmeniIs there anything I can do to help stem the tide of people trying to brute force passwords through ssh?05:38
mageknightok05:38
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tokennrgext3 run better than jfs?05:39
_jasonahmeni: use ssh keys instead05:39
ahmeni_jason: I encourage my users to use ssh keys, but it's not viable for all of them05:39
dliahmeni, disable passwd login, and use public key05:40
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dliahmeni, have a look at fail2ban05:40
tokennrgor run ssh on a nonstandard port (security by obcsurity :P   )05:40
l_!restrictedformats05:41
ubotumethinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats05:41
l_!freeformats05:41
ubotuThere are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats05:41
mageknight_jason: i cant change the aspect ratio of my mplayer??05:41
mageknight_jason: i want to fill up the whole screen05:41
_jasonmageknight: use xv as the video output05:41
ahmenidli: nice, does it scan apache logs as well?05:41
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mageknight_jason: on the preferences??05:41
_jasonmageknight: yep05:41
gimpyhtmlthis is a question for anybody that runs rythmbox or listen music players, but is there anyway to open multiple music folders at once in the "import folder"05:42
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riddleboxman its good to use ubuntu again, tried fedora out, I couldnt get my wireless to work at all, in ubuntu two minutes and it was up05:43
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newpersi'm installing the updates on drapper (flight 7).  it's been installing acpi-support for about 20 minutes now.  i think it's stuck.  what should i do?05:43
Whyvaskill it05:44
Flannelnewpers: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support05:44
Whyvasand do dpkg --configure -a05:44
newpersFlannel: it's dead quiet05:44
Flannelnewpers: oh, fair enough.05:44
newpers:)05:45
newpersWhyvas: what's that last command do?05:45
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Whyvasfixes stuff05:45
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newpersWhyvas: sorry, but what do i kill?  i'm not use to this packaging system05:46
tritiumnewpers: configures all packages that are unpacked but not yet configured05:46
tritium(man dpkg) ;)05:46
l_can someone tell me how to change teh permissions of a folder to make it writeable by the current user?05:46
mustard5l_ which folder?05:46
_jasonl_: what directory exactly?05:46
Whyvasare you using synaptic?05:47
newpersWhyvas: all I did was click that little icon in the top that downloads and installs the updates05:47
Whyvasah05:47
Whyvasnot sure what that one is called05:48
newpersThere's a window open that says "Applying Changes"  and has a progress bar, but i can't close it05:48
Whyvasok05:48
newpersso i ps awwfux, but i don't see anything05:48
newpersthat i would know to kill05:48
Whyvasright click on your panel up top05:48
_jasonupdate-manager probably05:48
Whyvasadd item05:48
mustard5newpers, try clicking rapidly on the main window for the application..see if it force a quit05:48
Whyvasforce quit05:48
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Whyvasunder desktop and windows05:49
harisundnewpers: Hit Alt and F2 together. Then type in xkill. Your cursor will change. Click on the window that seems to be 'hung' and it will die05:49
Whyvasthen click on that, then on the window05:49
_jasonoh yes, force quit may do it more nicely05:49
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njdavidAnyone know how to disable hotplug?05:49
njdavidOr stop it from hanging?05:49
njdavidIt's because of my Nvidia card.05:49
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njdavidAnd frankly, I don't hink hotplug is needed.05:49
ppjjjoh my god never taking another on call job05:49
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newpersi think i got it with sudo kill -9 dpkg.id (which just resumed everything)05:50
_jasonkilling dpkg processes isn't really good though :/05:50
harisundnjdavid: if you want to stop hotplug, I would suggest the command 'sudo invoke-rc.d hotplug stop' And to ensure it doesn't load on bootup execute 'sudo update-rc.d -f hotplug remov05:50
tritiumbravo, harisund05:51
njdavidCan I copy and paste that verbatim?05:51
njdavidErm05:51
harisundYes. Whatever is between the quotes is a command you will need to execute on the terminal.05:51
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wooowanyone alive?05:51
harisundAnd the last command should be 'sudo update-rc.d -f hotplug remove'05:51
njdavidharisund, It abrupty end "'sudo update-rc.d -f hotplug remov"05:51
harisundwoow I am :)05:51
harisundnjdavid typo :)05:52
wooowharisund: I have installed ubuntu 5.10 5x now, and it still hasn't asked me for a root passwd.. and i cannot root.. what is the matter with it05:52
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Flannel!tell wooow about root05:52
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harisundwoow There are no 'root' accounts on Ubuntu. The first user that you have created has root permissions and can execute commands as root by prepending the command with 'sudo'05:53
harisundwoow you should have got a message pointing you towards a webpage where you can read how administrator accounts are handled in Ubuntu05:53
wooowYes..05:54
wooowTHank you05:54
tritiumwooow: nothing is the matter with it05:54
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wooowuhh05:54
wooowwth05:54
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harisundwooow I am guessing you must have had experience with other Linuces out there, eh?05:55
wooownow it's denying remote access...05:55
harisundWhat happened?05:55
harisundremote access?05:55
Dr_Willisactually there is a root account. :P its just that direct logging in to it is disabled by default.05:55
NoUsewooow have you installed the ssh server?05:55
wooowharisund: I'm more of a FC user..05:55
harisundhmmmm.. Ok :)05:55
harisundWhat can I say? Welcome to Ubuntu, perhaps?05:55
wooowlol05:56
wooowXD05:56
Flannelwooow: ubuntu ships with no ports open, nothing listening, etc.05:56
tritiumwooow: what kind of remote access would you like to enable?05:56
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ferronicaany one here using utorrent in ubuntu???05:57
wooowtritium: I want like SSH access..05:57
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Flannelwooow: install ssh-server ;)05:57
ferronicai waqnna use Utorrent in ubuntu can I guys???05:57
harisundwooow You would have to first install the SSH Server. The command you would use is 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server'05:57
wooowuhh05:57
wooowokay05:57
wooowbrb05:57
tritium!enter05:57
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.05:57
ferronicaubotu: utorrent05:58
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica05:58
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NoUse!tell ferronica about ubotu05:58
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ferronicaNoUse: tell me how to use Utorrent in ubuntu05:59
NoUseferronica I've never used it05:59
ferronicalol05:59
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NoUseferronica utorrent is windows only05:59
ferronicaNoUse: in windows toooo05:59
ferronicaany one here using utorrent in ubuntu???06:00
Gayais there a C compiler in ubuntu?06:00
harisundGaya There is, but it is not installed by default06:00
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NoUseGaya install the build-essential package06:00
NoUseferronica utorrent is a windows program06:01
Gayawhere can i find that package?06:01
NoUseGaya synaptic06:01
PrimoTurboDoes anyone know any FREE Linux Magaznines besides tuxmagazine?06:01
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ferronicaNoUse: so there is no way to use it in ubuntu 5.1006:01
harisundNoUse, I have a question . When someone asks about installing gcc or g++ would it be better to ask them to install just the compiler or would you suggest installing the entire build-esential meta package?06:01
tritiumGaya: you can also use apt-cache search <search term>06:01
NoUseferronica you might be able to use it wine, but I don't know06:01
tritiumharisund: the meta package is preferred06:02
harisundok ..06:02
i3dmasterhow to config FF keyboard shortcuts?06:02
ferronicafrom where can i get wine06:02
tritium!info wine06:02
ubotuwine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB06:02
ferronicaNoUse: how to install it????06:02
harisundferronice Are you really keen on Utorrent only?06:02
NoUseferronica its in syanptic06:02
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ferronicaok06:03
ferronicaNoUse: in search what i type???06:03
ericmoritz\0I'd like to change the password to my keychain, how would I do that?06:03
NoUseferronica take a guess06:03
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ferronicaNoUse: Ok i typed, so many stufs showing, which one to install???06:04
NoUseferronica you typed wine?06:04
ferronicaNoUse: yes06:04
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NoUseferronica install the package named 'wine'06:04
ferronicaNoUse: only WINE06:04
drcodeany one know dia for drwing?06:05
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ferronicaNoUse: bcoz there is ---libwine,wine-doc06:05
tritiumdrcode: I still prefer xfig06:05
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tritiumferronica: do you need the libraries and documentation also?:06:05
NoUseferronica I understand that, install the wine pckage06:05
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pyrobobquick question06:06
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harisundYes pyrobob?06:06
njdavidHEhe06:06
njdavidThat didn't work.06:06
ferronicaNoUse: bcoz there is ---right now i just wanna to install for utorrrent06:06
pyrobobwhenever i try to compile anything with a configure file, I get an error06:06
njdavidDisabled my USB mouse and keyboard.06:06
pyrobobsaying the C compiler cannot create executables06:06
hyphenated!b-e06:06
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ubotuor if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.06:06
harisundnjdavid I was afraid of that. hotplug does more things too, and by stopping it you are potentially killing a lot of stuff.06:06
njdavidharisund, Yeah, It worked on my laptop though :)06:06
harisundnjdavid, hang on. I will give you the command to get back hotplug as it was before.06:06
Gayaokay i used apt-cache search essential package, and i can see a build-essential, so how do i install it?06:06
harisundAre you on dapper?06:06
njdavidharisund, oh noi06:07
ferronicaNoUse: Ok i selected wine06:07
Dr_Willis!apt-get06:07
ubotuapt-get is, like, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto06:07
harisundok no problem njdavid ..06:07
tritiumGaya: with apt-get or synaptic06:07
njdavidharisund, I didn't get a chance to completely type the rest lol06:07
njdavidharisund, Stopped after the first one06:07
Whyvasscrew wine06:07
Whyvasuse vmware06:07
ferronicaNoUse: downloding something, after downloading what next step????06:07
Whyvasmuch better.06:07
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njdavidharisund, Now, I just need to find a way to stop hotplug from trying to start my nvidia card.06:07
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pyrobob... how would I fix my little problem? (C compiler cannot create executables when running configure files)06:07
harisundnjdavid, I believe you can add the nvidia module to a list of blacklisted modules or something like that06:08
njdavidharisund, Where is the list located?06:08
hyphenatedpyrobob: uboto told you about 2 lines after you asked06:08
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NoUseferronica get the utorrent installer, the run 'wine file.exe'06:08
pyroboboh sorry didn't see that06:08
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ferronicaNoUse: what what, i didnt get YOU????06:08
harisundnjdavid That is something that I do not know, since I have never had the chance myself. Let's hope somebody else can help you out ..06:09
i3dmasteranyone knows how to config FF shortcuts?06:09
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NoUseferronica download the utorrent installer file, and from the command line run 'wine filename.exe' where filename.exe is the filename of the utorrent installer06:09
slackernnjdavid, dapper 6.06 has a file called /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist not sure if it's the same in breezy06:09
njdavidharisund, I know it's in etc something lol.06:09
njdavidslackern, Hmm looks familiar.06:09
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hyphenatedferronica: have you considered any of the other bittorrent clients that already work on linux?06:09
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tritiumnjdavid: breezy's blacklilst was in /etc/hotplug06:09
njdavidtritium, Know the filename?06:10
njdavidheh06:10
njdavidnevermind06:10
tritiumnjdavid: ;)06:10
njdavid/etc/hotplug/blacklist06:10
slackernfind /etc/ -name blacklist06:10
harisundnjdavid, there you go :)06:10
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ferronicaNoUse: Ok wine installed, what i do???06:11
NoUseferronica I already told you06:12
NoUseferronica twice06:12
ferronicaNoUse: now shud i download utorrent? from terminal06:12
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NoUseferronica yes06:12
harisundIt seems sort of unusuallly quiet down here today ..06:12
ferronicawhat command to give06:12
Whyvasferronica, use bit tornado06:12
njdavidharisund, I know it has to be simple, but how do I view my XP partition, and copy files?06:12
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Whyvasit's a linux bit torrent client06:13
tritiumferronica: s/shud/should06:13
Dr_WillisI tend to use rtorrent :P06:13
NoUseferronica yeah thats a good question,why do you need utorrent?06:13
Dr_Willisusing utorrent with wine.. is sort of 'scary' :P06:13
harisundnjdavid.. from what I recollect UBuntu should have automatically mounted your NTFS/FAT partitions for you. Go inside /media and look at the folders there. Just try and navigate through them.06:13
slackernDr_Willis, shhh, don't get them going on software running in terminals, keep that for later :)06:13
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Dr_Willisslackern,  heh - and save 'screen' for even later!06:14
Dr_Willis:P06:14
njdavidharisund, Nope06:14
ferronicaNoUse: bcoz to download some torrents requires Utorrent...06:14
njdavidharisund, cdrom0 and usbdick06:14
harisundnjdavid ok could you post me the file listing of your /etc/fstab somewher online?06:14
njdaviderm06:14
njdaviddisk06:14
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njdavidlol06:14
hyphenatedhaha06:14
harisundnjdavid lool that. .06:14
njdavidrofl06:14
harisundrofl06:14
slackern^^06:14
NoUseferronica thats not true06:14
NoUseferronica who told you that?06:14
njdavidharisund, the xp partition isn't listed.06:15
slackernI use bittornado myself after trying a ton of torrentclients too06:15
ferronicaNoUse: it is06:15
harisundnjdavid do you know how your hard disk(s) are organized?06:15
wooowWhat is the command to update?06:15
slackernrufus was nice, but well it's memory usage went to 1.5GB then i dumped it :)06:15
NoUseferronica give me an example06:15
harisundwooow: 'sudo apt-get update'06:15
harisundwooow: Have you changed your repositories?06:15
njdavidharisund, I believe my xp partition is hda206:15
wooowthat's what i thought06:15
njdavidharisund, My recovery partition is 106:15
wooowharisund: no..06:15
intelikeyharisund tell him to 'sudo fdisk -l'06:15
Dr_Willisnow the 'tracker' may  not like some clients.06:15
tritiumferronica: please use _real_ English words06:15
cdubyanjdavid, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda06:15
harisundintelikey I will have to let you take over then .. thanks .. I haven't used fdisk and so don't have much expertise with that06:16
njdavidhda206:16
njdavidI'm not a super complete nub. :-P06:16
cdubyanjdavid, didn't think so.06:16
njdavidI just haven't messed with linux in a long time.06:16
Whyvasferronica, you're crazy, use bit tornado06:16
cdubyanjdavid, did you add it to fstab?06:16
harisundnjdavid any user who can identify hda2 is far far from being a n00b .. :)06:16
slackernDr_Willis, that is true, but i've never ran into trackers not accepting bittornado, but nontheless utorrent is the king of clients and someone needs to port it before i start crying :)06:16
intelikeyharisund that command only lists the partitions of all hard disk06:16
ferronicaNoUse: two days before i tried to download one torrent(^Demonoid.com^_Billy_Sheehan_-_Cosmic_Troubadour_(2005)_[FLAC] ) which is 500MB06:16
njdavidcdubya, That, I don't know how to do. ;)06:17
harisundintelikey : oh .. but I believe fdisk is much more capable than that, right?06:17
cdubyanjdavid, hang on....06:17
njdavidThanks for helping me everyone.06:17
intelikeyharisund yes indeed.06:17
tritiumferronica: please don't discuss downloading copyrighted music here06:17
njdavidI'm sure I'll be asking more questions later. :-/06:17
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wooowomg06:17
ferronicaNoUse: i left it for whole night, wake in morning i saw ERROR in download,06:17
cdubyanjdavid, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:17
wooowmake isn't a recgonised commang?06:17
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tritiumwooow: you need to install build-essential06:17
harisundwooow: you would have to install it seperately.06:17
slackernwooow, 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'06:17
Whyvasferronica, why do you use linux?06:18
intelikey!b-e06:18
ubotuor if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.06:18
cdubyanjdavid, if you follow those docs, they worked just fine when I tried it the first time.06:18
Dr_Willisslackern,  ive used utorrent.. its ok. :P  but i use rtorrent on my  ssh/fileserver to better effect at times.06:18
NoUseferronica I'm downloading it right now using bitorrnado, you are wrong06:18
slackernDr_Willis, ahh, you know if it can handle cookies and such from sites too demanding that?06:18
coolioif i install a program twice by executing the following command: sudo apt-install apache, would that install two different programs of apache or just one?06:18
lkj1Why isn't my internet connection working? I have run dhclient several times, but it won't reveive an IP.06:18
ferronicaNoUse: If u see one comment is written there06:18
cdubyanjdavid, sudo mkdir /media/windows06:18
Whyvascoolio, just one06:18
NoUseferronica what?06:19
cooliookay great06:19
cdubyanjdavid, then add a line like this to fstab......06:19
ferronicaNoUse: use utorrent06:19
harisundlkj1 What sort of a connection are you on?06:19
njdavidcdubya, Worked perfectly, the diskmounter program I mean.06:19
cdubyanjdavid, kewl.06:19
Dr_Willisslackern,  i normally download the .torrent file. then copy them over to my rtorrent's 'incoming' dir.. and it then starts the torrent.. moveing it to 'done' when its done. :P no interaction from me06:19
cdubya:-)06:19
njdavidcdubya, Hehe06:19
njdavidcdubya, Wub.06:19
lkj1I have a standard cat5 connection that I am trying to use on interface eth0.06:19
cdubyanjdavid, so you got it mounted?06:19
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cdubyaheh06:19
njdavidcdubya, Yeah06:19
NoUseferronica Its working on my PC using bittornado, you are wrong06:19
Dr_Willisslackern,  if some torrent site demanded me to use cookies.. i would proberly use another site.06:19
cdubyawhere'd you mount it?06:19
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harisundlkj1 Typically on reboot Ubuntu should automatically pick up an IP. Are you sure the other end of the cable is plugged in properly to a working DHCP server, like a router for example?06:20
ferronicaNoUse: Leave it for whole download, in last u will see result06:20
njdavidcdubya, It did it automatically, the 'diskmounter' program mounted it in hda206:20
wooowMedia change: please insert the disc labeled06:20
wooow 'Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)'06:20
wooowin the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter06:20
wooowMedia change: please insert the disc labeled06:20
wooow 'Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)'06:20
wooowin the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter06:20
tritiumwooow: don't paste!06:20
NoUseferronica bittorrent is a standard, any client will work06:20
njdavidSpammage. ;)06:20
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cdubyanjdavid, I just created /media/windows, then created the symlink like the docs said, and have a sweet icon on the desktop that I double-click to do that....06:20
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cdubyaheh06:20
slackernDr_Willis, ahh oh well, it's working good enough for me now, torrentflux is quite nice too tried it and it works fairly well but i need that cookie support and they have it with a couple of patches and such but im just waiting for a new relase.06:20
Whyvasferronica, why do you use linux?06:20
harisundubotu tell wooow about repos06:20
lkj1It is plugged in properly, harrisund. The router is giving DHCP packets because this computer is working with the same cable, but the other won't.06:20
njdavidcdubya, Oh, the first like 2 sentences say to use the program06:20
wooow...06:21
cdubyanjdavid, in the wiki?06:21
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lkj1Apparently, ubuntu doesn't have DHCPCD..06:21
Dr_Willisslackern,  what i would like to see is some sort of webinterface to my torrent programs so i can montor them from any machine from the lan.. right now i ssh in and use screen.  Not exactly ideal in ways06:21
njdavidYeah06:21
njdavidOk06:21
tritium!enter06:21
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.06:21
lwizardlhow do you remove an apt-get program06:21
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njdavidcdubya, The 2nd/3rd block of text06:21
cdubyanjdavid, heh, musta looked right passed that.06:21
cdubyaheh06:21
slackernDr_Willis, you seen torrentflux, it's a web/php/mysql driven client06:21
njdavidcdubya, "Mounting partitions with the script"06:21
Apostle^lkj1, sure it does06:21
harisundlkj1 Actually DHCPD is not what you want . dhclient is what you want. anyway .. that apart..06:21
cdubyanjdavid, I just set it up manually.06:21
tritiumlwizardl: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>06:21
cdubyaworked like a charm06:21
njdavidcdubya, :)06:21
ferronicaWhyvas: why do u use linux???06:21
intelikeywell i have no time to hang around here.   i have a 12k+ bash script to reformat and comment.....06:22
slackern!torrentflux06:22
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slackern06:22
slackernbah06:22
njdavidDamnit.06:22
regeya!ppc06:22
ubotumethinks ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers.  Supported by Ubuntu PPC.06:22
lkj1Because you know what is up to, ferronica. You can't with Windoze.06:22
njdavidMy sound isn't working!!!06:22
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njdavidcdubya, know how to fix it?06:22
cdubyanjdavid, was it working before?06:22
slackernDr_Willis, http://www.torrentflux.com/06:22
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NoUseferronica it is strange you run Linux but you want to run all Windows applications, it doesn't make sense06:23
njdavidcdubya, I just put Ubuntu on here about an hour ago, so no :)06:23
cdubyanjdavid, heh06:23
lwizardlhmm i'm getting errors tryng to remove phpmyadmin06:23
harisundlwizardl there's a problem with phpmyadmin06:23
Whyvasferronica, database development, why do you use linux?06:23
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Whyvasexactly, it seems like you have no use for linux at all06:23
lkj1lol phpmyadmin. Just use regular SQL queries06:23
njdavidcdubya, "No volume control elements and/or devices found."06:23
ferronicaWhyvas: just for my knowledge,06:23
Dr_Willisslackern,  heh - i was just googling for it.06:24
Dr_Willis:P06:24
lkj1jk06:24
ferronicaWhyvas: everytime i wanna to do something new06:24
cdubyanjdavid, did the card at least get picked up by the installer?06:24
harisundlwizardl I will search if you want, but go to http://ubuntuforums.org and do an advanced search. Saerch for by user 'harisund' and post 'phpmyadmin'06:24
tritiumWhyvas, ferronica: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic06:24
NoUseferronica you won't learn anything if you only run Windows apps06:24
lkj1Phpmyadmin rocks06:24
njdavidcdubya, There was no errors or anything.06:24
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njdavidcdubya, I think I had to do something with alsa last time, I have no clue though.06:24
lkj1so, what commands should I do to check my eth0? Dmesg doesn't show any useful info..:(06:24
Whyvasphpmyadmin is the goodies06:24
njdavidcdubya, Something with modprobe?06:24
njdavidcdubya, :-P06:24
ferronicaNoUse: you do one thing leave that torrent to download okay06:24
cdubyanjdavid, heh06:24
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NoUseferronica I'm not gonna download 500MB to prove you wrong06:25
njdavidcdubya, Any ideas?06:25
ferronicaNoUse: If it done tell me, i am always available in this channel06:25
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cdubyanjdavid, is you do a lspci, does the sound card show up properly identified?06:25
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Whyvasferronica, are you sure you tried bit TORNADO and not the default ubuntu bit torrent client?06:25
ferronicaNoUse: Then i am right,06:25
ferronicaNoUse: yes06:25
mustard5heh..thats a strange logic :)06:26
tritiumthat's no logic at all06:26
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ferronicaWhyvas: why should i lie06:26
njdavidcdubya, I'm not sure, hehe. Something about onboard AC'97 comes up, which I think is right.06:26
ferronicaWhyvas: i used tornado06:26
NoUseferronica you aren't lying, you are just horribly misinformed06:26
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njdavidcdubya, 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)06:26
tritiumTake the torrent talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, guys06:26
harisundThe ops around here, I have a question. I want to add a factoid  to ubotu on uninstalling phpmyadmin. There is a bug in the package, atleast on Breezy, and I know the forum thread to correctly uninstall phpmyadmin (Istarted the thread006:27
tritiumharisund: go ahead06:27
cdubyanjdavid, heh, that's exactly the same entry I have and my sound works.....:-P06:27
harisundtritium.. hmm..how do I add?06:27
njdavidcdubya, What computer do you have?06:27
sparkleytoneharisund: whats the bug...i actually have used that very package06:27
ferronicaWhyvas: this one is Billy_Sheehan original CD06:27
harisundsparkleytone have you tried uninstalling/purging it?06:27
tritium!ubotu06:27
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.06:27
mustard5harisund, /msg ubotu add06:28
tritiumferronica: how many times do I have to tell you?06:28
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sparkleytoneharisund: i think i tried once but i don't memember what happened...what happens?06:28
cdubyanjdavid, Toshiba laptop06:28
njdavidcdubya, Oh, I'm using a Desktop...06:28
ferronicatritium: what???06:28
njdavidcdubya, Any other ideas?06:28
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ferronicatritium: said something wrong???06:28
harisundsparkleytone it quits with a dpkg error. The /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.perm script needs to be edited slightly06:28
tritiumferronica: I've told you repeatedly to take it to -offtopic, and _not_ to discuss downloading copyrighted music06:29
sparkleytoneah06:29
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sparkleytoneharisund: is there a bug filed at launchpad?06:29
aaron_i need a beter msn on linux haw do i get it06:29
tritiumlkj1: put your /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin please06:29
NoUseferronica if you want to talk about bittorent go to #ubuntu-offtopic06:29
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cdubyanjdavid, maybe something here?   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%2906:29
harisundsparkleytone: I don't know how to check ? I know if that file is modified phpmyadmin gets purged correctly and without it you can't erase phpmyadmin.06:30
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ferronicatritium: fairly tell me hav u never downloded from torrents06:30
cdubyaaaron, gaim06:30
Whyvashahaha06:30
ferronicaNoUse: OKAY06:30
sparkleytoneharisund: go to launchpad.net and to the ubuntu distro...then search for phpmyadmin and look at its bugs06:30
cdubyaaaron_, gaim06:30
tritiumferronica: never music.  Only ubuntu cdimages06:30
aaron_i need another type of msn for linux06:30
lkj1BRB, tritium06:30
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mustard5aaron_, I think your options are gaim or amsn06:31
sparkleytoneaaron_: msn?  use gaim.06:31
cdubyaaaron_, to use with messenger?06:31
sparkleytoneamsn is supposed to be pretty good i think06:31
cdubyaaaron_, yeah, use gaim06:31
ferronicaNoUse: now how to remove that wine from my ubuntu that i downloded it??06:31
harisundok am doing sparkleytone06:31
NoUseferronica synaptic06:31
ferronicaNoUse: So, i stick on BIT  TORNADO06:31
cdubyaaaron_, I use gaim for aim, msn and irc06:31
tokemanyes amsn works good06:31
aaron_but it sucks06:31
gleesondis pcmcia the pc card slot06:31
tokennrghrmm, I just did a base install of kubuntu 5.10, it prepended all my mount points with /media e.g. /media/var   is that normal?06:32
aaron_u cant put pics on it06:32
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NoUseferronica just search synaptic for bittorrent, you'll find several clients06:32
aaron_or any thing06:32
Whyvasand for once it might not be me!06:32
mustard5tokeman, /media/var sounds very strange :)06:32
sparkleytonethere's also mercury msn (formerly dmsn)06:32
sparkleytonehttp://www.mercury.to/06:32
tritiumWhyvas: heh, have you been banned before?06:32
Whyvasyes06:32
Whyvasby you06:32
ferronicaNoUse: no no i wanna to uninstall wine from my ubuntu now06:32
aaron_haw do i get the other one06:32
Whyvasjesus ferronica06:33
NoUseferronica search for it and mark it for uninstall06:33
tritiumWhyvas: heh, but if I recall, I unbanned you as well06:33
regeyaPLEASE HAMMER DON'T HURT EM06:33
NoUseferronica have you read http://help.ubuntu.com ?06:33
Whyvasyou did06:33
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cdubyaheh06:33
Whyvasferronica, where are you from?06:33
ferronicaNoUse: NOPE, i am new in linux06:33
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harisundsparkleytone it says there is a binary package called phpmyadmin but how do I see where the bugs for that package are?06:33
tokemantokennrg mustard5 tokeman, /media/var sounds very strange :)06:33
NoUseferronica all the more reason to read that webpage06:33
ferronicaWhyvas: from singapore06:33
regeyaI missed something...someone did something  deserving of bannination?06:33
NoUseferronica read that page before asking more questions please06:33
harisundsparkleytone forgive me for my ignorance, but this is the first time I am doing anything outside of IRC and the forums.06:34
Whyvasah06:34
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tritiumregeya: not yet06:34
harisundSo I don't want to do anything wront06:34
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Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, i'll pastebin the dmes output incase it helps06:34
sparkleytoneharisund: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bugs06:34
Whyvasisn't there an ubuntu channel in your native language?06:34
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: thanks06:34
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mustard5tokeman, thanks ..sorry about that :)06:34
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aaron_haw do i instal amsn  when i tryed it said it wosent supported06:34
tokemanmustard5 NP06:34
regeyahey, I've openly harassed gnome devs here and never gotten banned.  whaddaya have to do, sprinkle your bittorrent links with profanities and references to sexual relations with one's mother?06:34
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tokennrgodd indeed /media/ /media/usr  /media/data06:35
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cdubyaaaron_, sudo apt-get install amsn06:35
tokemanaaron find the advanced options look for repository06:35
lkj1_Tritium: http://pastebin.com/71294506:35
mustard5tokennrg, I would be concerned about it :)06:35
Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/71294606:35
tokeman!sound06:36
ubotuHelp to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary06:36
Kamping_Kaiserits a ide hdd in an external usb enclosure. the same stuff happens when its turned on with cable select or master06:36
harisundsparkleytone: I am referring to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79934. But in your bugs page I couldn't find anything of that sort. Could you check up both if you don't mind?06:36
tritiumlkj1_: you need eth0 configured properly.  You want it to come up on boot?06:36
lkj1_That would be nice.06:36
ferronicaWhyvas: are u downloding it06:36
tritiumlkj1_: that looks terrible as it is.06:36
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: sec06:36
Whyvasferronica, i need a link06:36
njdavidcdubya, I think this is the module I need http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+AC97+audio.&chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+ICH4%2C+ICH5%2C+ICH6&module=intel8x0 but I have no idea what to do now.06:37
ferronicaWhyvas: ^Demonoid.com^_Billy_Sheehan_-_Cosmic_Troubadour_(2005)_[FLAC] 06:37
lkj1_I have already ifconfig up'd it, why won't it work? No special modules that I know of..06:37
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crimsunKamping_Kaiser: "scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery" seems to be key.06:37
ferronicahttp://www.demonoid.com/files/details/342200/06:37
tritiumlkj1_: you need these two lines: "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp", assuming you're using DHCP06:37
ferronicaWhyvas: http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/342200/06:37
glickhey has anyone plated civ4 with cedega?06:37
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: can you verify that the volume(s) is(are) not mounted via /etc/mtab ?06:37
lkj1_so just edit the file in vi, tritium?06:37
NoUseferronica you aren't in #ubuntu-offtopic06:37
tritiumferronica: no more warnings about copyright infringement06:37
fiendhello guys, do you know any desktop resource monitors beside gkrellm and superkaramba? the one that's more console-like that gui, thanks06:37
ferronicaWhyvas: Its a full CD in FLAC format06:37
slackern!mods06:38
ubotuslackern: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:38
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slackerndoh06:38
harisundslackern ops perhaps?06:38
tritium!aq ferronica06:38
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tritium06:38
ferronicaNoUse: little bit can we talk???06:38
Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, nothing came up in 'mount' or 'cat/proc/partitions' or 'ls /dev/sd*' but i'll turn on a box to test it on06:38
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NoUseferronica in #ubuntu-offtopic06:38
ferronicaWhyvas: got or not now06:38
njdavidharisund, Know how to fix sound problems?06:39
ferronicaNoUse: RULES r very strict i think???06:39
njdavidharisund, The module for my sound is loaded.06:39
ferronicaNoUse: :(06:39
harisundsparkleytone could you check?06:39
sparkleytoneharisund: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/4432506:39
NoUseferronica only when you don't listen06:39
njdavidBut it just doesn't output :-/06:39
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crimsunKamping_Kaiser: ok, good. Assuming the device is now /dev/sdc, please ``sudo fsck /dev/sdc1''06:39
cdubyanjdavid, did you try alsamixer to make sure it wasn't muted06:39
ferronicaNoUse: i just uninstalled the wine06:39
harisundAwesome sparkleytone How did you find it? Great. I just wanted that added to ubotu06:39
lkj1_Tritium:I added those lines. Now what?06:40
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njdavidcdubya, It's not muted06:40
lkj1_Reboot?06:40
sparkleytoneharisund: i opened the bug.  who knows if it will get fixed.06:40
ferronicaWhyvas: are u there???06:40
tritiumlkj1_: yes, and you can delete some of those duplicate lines if you want06:40
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lkj1_Thanks, I will try it. :)06:40
sparkleytoneharisund: for future ref...you can search for a package on the ubuntu page and there is a bug list link on the left06:40
harisundok done. Thanks :)06:41
Whyvasferronica, join #ubuntu-offtopic06:41
ferronicaNoUse: how to go in06:41
sparkleytoneyou're welcome06:41
Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, no device is made though. just getting ready to check mtab06:41
ferronicaWhyvas: HOW06:41
Dr_Willis!irc06:41
ubotuhmm... irc is info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat06:41
ferronicaWhyvas: r u going there06:41
=== tritium sudo apt-get installs patience
njdavidcdubya, :(06:41
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Dr_Willis- /join #channelname06:41
harisundseriously tritium , Iwish that package was there06:41
intelikeytritium ^506:41
NoUseferronica /join #ubuntu-offtopic06:41
tritiumharisund: :)06:42
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slackern!lordallmighty06:42
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slackern06:42
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: err, sorry, miscounted. scsi4 would be /dev/sdd06:42
harisund!goo' boy06:42
ubotuharisund: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:42
etmntONEI just formatted an hdd to fat32... how do check what file system it is06:42
etmntONEdf -a doesn't display the fs of a device06:42
Dr_Willisfdisk -l06:42
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etmntONEthanks06:42
Dr_Willisif you formated it to fat32.. then it had to be a fat32 file system befo rya could format it.06:42
intelikeymount if it's mounted06:42
cdubyanjdavid, wish I was more help.06:43
Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, i have no /dev/sd devices06:43
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etmntONEit's mounted but admin > disks it reports ext306:43
njdavidcdubya, Know of anyone that can help?06:43
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: hmm. Has it ever worked?06:43
intelikeyKamping_Kaiser look in /dev/.static/   iirc06:43
etmntONEfdisk -l doesn't display06:44
Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, "it works in windows". its a mates device, i'm borrowing it to do the bugsearching06:44
Dr_WillisetmntONE,  use 'sudo fdisk -l'06:44
slackern'sudo fdisk -l'06:44
intelikeyetmntONE sudo06:44
cdubyanjdavid, one of the pros like crimsun or tritium prolly, but I'm not sure......sound isn't really my strong suit.....just trying to help if I can.....:-/06:44
Kamping_Kaiserand it comes with drivers ffor windows. dont know if that changes anything06:44
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: but hasn't worked in Linux at all?06:44
slackernhehe was there someone saying just a few minutes ago how quiet it was in here i belive?06:44
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Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, no. not on 3 machines and 2 kernel revisions06:44
etmntONEunder system is says Liux06:45
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etmntONEbut doesn't display the filesystem06:45
crimsunnjdavid: recap, please?06:45
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njdavidcrimsun, My sound isn't working, the module's it needs are installed, and it's not muted.06:45
tritiumcdubya: that's nice, but I'm no pro ;)06:45
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: ick, probably a scsi issue in linux 2.6, then :/06:45
cdubyacrimsun, he's got sound mod loaded up, but no sound. AC-97 controller06:45
etmntONEany other way to check the file system?06:45
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Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, :( so a kernel bug?06:45
cdubyatritium, more of one than I. :-)06:45
crimsunnjdavid: pastebin ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''06:45
tritium:)06:45
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: either that or udev06:46
ferronicahow to change channel guys????????????????????06:46
Apostle^how do i switch between users without logging anyone out?06:46
ferronicatritium: how to change channel????06:46
Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, so which should i file a bug against?06:46
sparkleytone/join #channel06:46
tritiumferronica: type this ^06:46
Kamping_Kaiserferronica, read what people tell you06:46
etmntONEwould this be a correct fstab entry for a Fat32 drive?06:46
etmntONE/dev/hdb1       /media/slave    fat32    defaults,errors=remount-ro 006:46
Kamping_Kaiseryou were told 10 minutes ago06:46
njdavidcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/71295206:46
Whyvasferronica, it works06:46
Whyvasferronica, join #ubuntu-offtopic06:46
cdubyaetmntONE, change fat32 to vfat.......06:47
Kamping_KaiseretmntONE, dont need to remount-ro, and personaly i dont put partitions in /media06:47
intelikeyetmntONE ah no fdisk will only show the partition type not the actual fs.   linux = ext2 partition    could actually be any fs.    if it's mounted   mount    will tell you what it is.06:47
Apostle^how do i switch between users without logging anyone out?06:47
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: lsmod |grep ^sd_mod06:47
etmntONEthanks06:47
crimsunnjdavid: ok, hold a sec, tackling multiple things concurrently06:47
intelikeyetmntONE no not fat32   vfat06:47
tritiumApostle^: there is a user-fast-switch gnome package in universe06:47
etmntONE/dev/hdb1 on /media/slave type vfat (rw)06:48
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Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, "sd_mod      20448 0"06:48
etmntONEthanks a lot guys06:48
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njdavidcrimsun, It's cool. I appreciate it :)06:48
intelikeyoh i'm lagging...06:48
tritiumApostle^: fast-user-switch-applet is the name, I believe06:48
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crimsunnjdavid: are you using the optical/digital output or regular analog speakers?06:48
Apostle^tritium, i don't think i gave this account sudo powers, how do i do that?06:49
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njdavidcrimsun, Hehe, I'm not sure. 5 speakers, from Logitech. :-/06:49
tritiumApostle^: add that user to the admin group06:49
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crimsunnjdavid: in Applications> Accessories> Terminal, type: amixer set 'IEC958' off06:49
lkj1tritium: still didn't work. Maybe it is a hardware problem?06:49
njdavidcrimsun, Do you want me to paste the output?06:49
Apostle^tritium, how do i do that? :-)06:49
crimsunnjdavid: no need, we're not finished yet.06:49
njdavidcrimsun, Ok.06:50
crimsunnjdavid: now: amixer set 'Surround' on && amixer set 'Surround' 80% && amixer set 'Center' on && amixer set 'LFE' on && amixer set 'LFE' 80%06:50
tritiumlkj1: perhaps the module isn't loading automatically?06:50
crimsunnjdavid: (copy and paste that)06:50
lkj1Why wouldn't it? I added those lines.06:51
tritiumlkj1: which NIC?06:51
lkj1eth006:51
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tritiumlkj1: yes, but which manufacturer/model?06:51
njdavidcrimsun, What exactly is that doing? (only 2 of my speakers work, because I am using an onboard sound card.)06:51
lkj1I don't know..06:51
lkj1How do I find out without taking my comp apart?06:51
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tritiumlkj1: please check with lspci or dmesg06:51
cdubyaApostle^, System >Administration > Users and Groups06:51
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Apostle^cdubya, thanks06:52
crimsunnjdavid: now: amixer set 'Duplicate Front' on06:52
det_Safe to upgrade from flight-7 today?06:52
C-O-L-Tcan I set my computer to auto turn off? I mean for example I am printing something and after it would like to turn off my computer. Is there a possibility?06:52
cdubyaApostle^, np06:52
njdavidcrimsun, Ok06:52
etmntONEhmmm... it's mounted and I did "sudo chmod 777 -R /media/slave" and when I try to copy to it, it says I don't have permission?06:52
Kamping_KaiserC-O-L-T, only if you use a script or an acpi timeout06:52
lkj1lspci says: Accton Corporation ethernet interface.. Never heard of Accton06:52
etmntONEany idea why? this is a vfat partition06:52
fiendhello guys, do you know any desktop resource monitors beside gkrellm and superkaramba? the one that's more console-like that gui, thanks06:53
Kamping_KaiseretmntONE, you shouldnt havce to chmod a fat32 partition06:53
crimsunnjdavid: does ``aplay -Dplug:surround51 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' give you any audible volume?06:53
etmntONEI tried without it, but it says I can't write06:53
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cdubyaheh06:53
njdavidcrimsun, no :(06:53
C-O-L-TKamping_Kaiser: is it so complicated. I mean I am not at home and I would like to turn off my pc. There is not a tool to which i say turn off my computer in 3 min a tool that pushes the turn off button? :D06:53
stone_hello, can someone please help me with PPC install?06:53
etmntONEhowever with root I can write to it?06:53
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Kamping_KaiserC-O-L-T, short answer: no :)06:54
crimsunnjdavid: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 006:54
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etmntONEHow would I let normal users write to my vfat partition?06:54
njdavidcrimsun, Now what?06:54
crimsunnjdavid: how about now (w/ aplay)?06:54
tritiumlkj1: do you get any output for eth0 from ifconfig?06:54
stone_i have a Pismo with a brand new 80gb HD. first 60gb is OS X. 20gb is empty. i burn breezy ISO with FireStarter and Toast, put into Pismo, hold down C and nothing happens.06:54
etmntONEchmod 777 -R seems to not work06:54
C-O-L-TKamping_Kaiser: :(06:54
etmntONE:(06:55
Apostle^stone_, firestarter is not a cd-burning program?06:55
njdavidcrimsun, Woo it worked!06:55
cdubyaApostle^, no....firewall06:55
intelikeyetmntONE man mount   and use /  to search for  mask06:55
lkj1only the mac address and other stuff, and it says no packets received tritium06:55
Apostle^cdubya, he said he burned an iso with it.. :-006:55
crimsunnjdavid: awesome, I'll need to modify alsa-utils yet again  <sigh>06:55
cdubyanjdavid, crimsun's the man.06:55
stone_Apostle^: I tried both firestarter and Toast. both burn ISOs to CD. both burn them seemingly fine.06:55
Kamping_KaiserC-O-L-T, :(06:55
tritiumlkj1: okay, but that's a good sign06:55
njdavidcrimsun, But nothing else works..06:55
stone_yet neither will make the CD bootable on my pismo06:55
Apostle^stone_, firestarter is a firewall not a cd-burning program?06:55
crimsunnjdavid: not sure what you mean?06:55
tritiumlkj1: what does "sudo ifup eth0" do for you?06:55
tritiumApostle^: yes06:56
intelikeyetmntONE in short  mount it with umask=0  gets every body full access.06:56
regeyaKamping_Kaiser: if your nick is something you DM under, remind me to never DM with you.06:56
cdubyaApostle^, if it's the same app I'm thinking of, yes06:56
stone_if i hold down Option I see the Ubuntu CD. when i select it I get dropped into Open Firmware.06:56
njdavidcrimsun, The aplay command let me hear the sound, but when I try to play a movie, it doesn't work.06:56
regeya</offtopic>06:56
cdubyaApostle^, gnomebaker06:56
lkj1it says already configured, tritium06:56
etmntONE/dev/hdb1       /media/slave    vfat    defaults,errors=remount-ro 006:56
crimsunnjdavid: using which program?06:56
etmntONEwhere would I add that unmask-0 part06:56
Apostle^cdubya, he keeps saying he uses it to burn cd's :-P06:56
Kamping_Kaiserregeya, deathmatch? it used to be... untill i switched to linux.06:56
njdavidcrimsun, Totem?06:56
etmntONEumask=0, sorry06:56
regeyastone_: forgive me if you've answered this already....wait, I see you have.  no idea on a pismo.  that's weird that you get dumped to OF.06:57
stone_Apostle^: firestarter is a CD/DVD burning app on OS X06:57
cdubyaApostle^, heh06:57
njdavidlol06:57
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njdavidcrimsun, nevermind06:57
njdavidcrimsun, hehe06:57
regeyaKamping_Kaiser: I used to DM under Linux...Quake, obviously....06:57
stone_regeya: i agree. it is very weird.06:57
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tritiumlkj1: can I double-check your /etc/network/interfaces again please?06:57
cdubyaApostle^, stone_ is prolly right there....I don't use OS X anymore06:57
Apostle^stone_, ahh, i understand now...... i was thinking of linux06:57
lkj1Tritium: http://pastebin.com/71294506:57
regeyapismo...pismo...06:57
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Apostle^cdubya, yea, miscommunication06:57
tritiumlkj1: is this after you edited it?06:57
stone_Apostle^: i want to get to linux06:57
lkj1no, before06:57
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cdubyaApostle^, but on Ubuntu, it's a firewall app06:57
stone_new World06:57
tritiumlkj1: can I see the new version?06:57
stone_it uses Open Firmware06:57
etmntONE:/06:58
lkj1yes, 1sec06:58
cdubyastone_, what's the issue06:58
regeyawait, new world if OF, right?  /me is ignorant of mac history06:58
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cdubyaregeya, yep06:58
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stone_cdubya: the ISO CDs I try to burn do not boot my Powerbook Pismo G3 while holding down C.06:58
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: sorry, missed your response06:58
Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, np. i let you worry about your other questions.06:58
stone_cdubya: i have tried two different programs, two different CDs06:58
cdubyastone_, did you try to burn the ISO using disk utility06:59
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stone_cdubya: i have had very poor experiences with that in the past.06:59
stone_i am on OS X now06:59
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: I don't know offhand if it's udev's or linux-source-2.6.15's fault. I'd file it against the former.06:59
cdubyastone_, I've never had disk utility on Panther fail me once on an ISO burn unless it was my fault06:59
cdubyathat's why I asked06:59
stone_cdubya: i will try disk utility then06:59
stone_be back in a bit06:59
Kamping_Kaisercrimsun, thanks. i'll do that06:59
cdubyastone_, just a thought06:59
regeyaaha!  pismo! http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/pismo.shtml06:59
lkj1Tritium: http://pastebin.com/71295607:00
cdubyaheh07:00
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cdubyayep, that's it regeya07:00
Whyvasstone_, you should of bought a real computer07:00
tritiumshould have?07:00
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Whyvasand not an over-priced useless piece of eye candy07:01
tritiumlkj1: thanks07:01
Whyvashehe07:01
stone_Whyvas: this is an old powerbook pismo i have been using for years and years. served me VERY VERY well.07:01
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lkj1Unfortunately, I have to go to bed. Need to be at work early tomorrow. I'll be back tritium.07:01
stone_cdubya: i am burning the ISO using DU now.07:01
tritiumlkj1: I can fix it for you07:01
lkj1ok07:02
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tritiumlkj1: I'll query you07:02
dlistone_, how old? what cpu?07:02
stone_i have years of experience with YDL and Fedora (ppc and x86) but i have never seen this before07:02
cdubyastone_, their pretty decent from what I've heard....if that ISO fails, then maybe there's an issue with the ISO file itself?07:02
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cdubyastone_, know a few folks that run Panther on Pismos07:02
stone_dli: it's a 2000 Powerbook G3/400 1gbRAM, 80gb HD07:02
lkj1how do you mean, tritium?07:02
stone_it normally runs Tiger07:02
dlistone_, check md5sum of the iso file07:02
stone_cdubya: i am thinking that but hoping now07:02
stone_dli: how?07:02
tritiumlkj1: PM, essentially07:02
cdubyadli, that's what I was thinking, just couldn't remember how07:03
cdubyahe07:03
dlistone_, "md5sum foo.iso"07:03
cdubyaheh07:03
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stone_dli: can you be more specific, please?07:03
tritiumlkj1: you should have it now07:03
lkj1thanks! I will write that down! Goodnight, all. :)07:03
regeyaWhyvas: in all seriousness, have you ever used an OS X machine?  veeeeeeeeeeery nice, at least if you have a quartz extreme compliant gfx card ;-)07:03
dlistone_, "man md5sum"07:03
cdubyastone_, just issue that command to the filename...... md5sum filename.iso07:03
regeyaWhyvas: and it's not as dumbed down as GNOME.  never thought I'd see an environment more dumbed-down than MacOS.07:03
stone_cdubya, dli : doing it now07:04
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cdubyaheh07:04
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stone_bstone$ md5sum ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso07:04
stone_how long should it take?07:04
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stone_it says07:04
stone_8886a26a1da1daa3669ed6e1253bd93b  ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso07:04
dlistone_, and you can get the correct checksum from the download site07:04
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Whyvasregeya, that doesn't change the fact that they're overpriced eye candy for prissy users07:05
regeya1GHz Pismo???!?  mac people are scary.07:05
stone_dli: this is where i got it: ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/07:05
stone_where is the checksum?07:05
regeyaWhyvas: prissy users who *don't* have to have features pulled out to relieve confusion, though... ;-D07:05
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Whyvasyeah, prissy users who do "video editing" on a mac because it's faster07:06
dlistone_, check the official ubuntu site07:06
regeya"Wait!  I just thought of something!  There's some guy in West Virginia who MIGHT get confused if he EVER USED GNOME and tried to RIP A CD and was presented with BITRATE OPTIONS!  WE GOTTA TAKE THAT OUT!!!!! OHNOES!Q#$^8"07:06
intelikeyhmmm is this a mac -vs- blah war ?07:07
stone_dli cdubya : checksum checks out07:07
stone_same on each07:07
stone_md5 command spits out what the mirror has exactly07:07
regeyaintelikey: trolls trolling the troll07:07
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cdubyastone_, k. you going to try the one you burned with disk utility?07:07
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Centaur5Is there a program similar to KMix for gnome?07:08
stone_cdubya: putting it in now07:08
dlistone_, yes, checksum is correct07:08
manjihey, what package gives me all the microsoft truetype fonts?07:08
cdubyastone_, so is it dropping you into OF?07:08
stone_cdubya: when i hold down C it boots to OS X normally07:08
dlistone_, then, check the cd07:08
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stone_when i hold down Option and select the Ubuntu CD, it drops me to OF07:08
Whyvasintelikey, no, this is me talking about hardware and regeya talking about specific software of a specific OS07:08
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regeyaSo hardware is overpriced eyecandy...right...07:09
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regeyagotcha.07:09
Whyvasmac hardware is...07:09
stone_damn07:09
stone_c fails07:09
stone_holding down option07:09
stone_i can see the Ubuntu CD with the penguin07:09
Whyvasim not talking about the eyecandy of a desktop07:09
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Whyvasi mean the way a machine looks07:09
mugziecan someone help me im having trouble getting java runtime enviorment for my firefox i read the wiki but im still confused i dont know exactly what to do07:09
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stone_and IT BOOTS ME TO OF!!! GAHHS07:10
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ferronicaok07:10
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igcekhow to mount sb key?#mount /dev/***07:10
regeyaok, well, since you're not biting, Whyvas, I'll have to agree.  we have these eMacs at work that are failing at an incredible speed due to BAD CAPACITORS.  But DERN they're PURTY07:10
Whyvasmugzie, use synaptic package manager to install it07:10
cdubyastone_, try to boot the cd from there07:10
igcekusb*07:10
stone_cdubya: i shall07:10
stone_be back in a few07:10
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tritium!tell stone about enter07:10
ebaadhello everybody07:10
Whyvasregeya, solder some new ones on07:10
intelikeyigcek mount /dev/sd? /mount/point07:10
Whyvasthat's an easy fix07:11
ebaadI have a question about upgrade07:11
Whyvasi fix old mobos with bad caps all the time07:11
mugziewhyvas i dont got synpatic on this im using floxbox07:11
ebaadI get the error E: couldn't find package update07:11
ferronicaWhyvas:??????//07:11
regeyameanwhile we can't replace hardware until it dies, and we have these damned beige macs all over the place too.  I think they were designed to survive thermonuclear war, or something.07:11
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ebaadwhen updating the applications07:12
regeyawhyvas, in between slacking and loafing, I'll do that.07:12
Whyvasheh07:12
ebaadcan somebody tell me how to fix it07:12
igcekmount: you must specify the filesystem type07:12
igcekroot@clj22-212:/home/irena#07:12
intelikeyeveryone seems to be flocking to floxbox these days.07:12
mugziewhyvas im in floxbox they dont got synpatic07:12
Whyvaserr07:12
regeyafloxbox?07:12
mugziefluxbox i meant07:12
Whyvasuse dselect07:12
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Whyvasor dpkg07:13
mugzieum sorry im so new idk what u talking bout07:13
regeyayeh why the sudden fluxbox resurgence07:13
dlimugzie, you can run synaptic in fluxbox or any wm07:13
intelikeyigcek that error is deceptive.  probably menas that the wrong device node was specified.07:13
mugziedli but how would i run it07:13
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Whyvasopen a shell and type synaptic07:14
miguelsrhey does some one know how to search movies on megaupload?07:14
Whyvasas root07:14
dlimugzie, I heard about gksudo07:14
Whyvasto be root, type sudo synaptic07:14
Whyvasthen put in your user password07:14
tritiummiguelsr: don't discuss that here07:14
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intelikeygksudo if you please.07:14
regeyabesides, whyvas, my talents don't lie in the solder-something-and-have-it-work-afterward area...ok, this time I mean it, </offtopic>07:14
miguelsrwhere!!07:14
dliwhyami, then, you get "can not open DISPLAY"07:14
mugzieok07:14
stone_cdubya dli : never trust a checksum.07:15
cdubyastone_, how's that?07:15
tritiummiguelsr: how about nowhere, since that's illegal?07:15
ebaadI get the error E: couldn't find package update07:15
Apostle^hardware question: if you remove all the ram from a mobo, boot it and it gives no beep it is fried like an egg yes?07:15
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ebaadwhen trying to update installation07:15
stone_cdubya: it failed to boot my perfectly working desktop g407:15
manjihey, what package gives me all the microsoft truetype fonts?07:15
tritiummsttcorefonts07:15
cdubyastone_, heh07:15
manjiah many thanks07:15
intelikeyApostle^ depends on the board07:16
Whyvascannot open display??07:16
dlistone_, you can never trust a checksum for 100%, but it's very unlikely you shouldn't trust it for practical purposes07:16
whyamiis there a way I can install ubuntu onto a mounted disk image within another ubuntu machine?07:16
Apostle^intelikey, i have another computer where it turns on, all the hd's led's fans etc, but nothing happens.07:16
manjiwhyami: of course07:16
stone_i have never used md5 before and i won't ever again. lol07:16
tritiumstone_: why not?07:16
stone_i am downloading from a different mirror this time07:16
dliwhyami, what about simply "cp -a" your currect ubuntu to it?07:16
stone_tritium: because md5 told me the download i had was fine, when it was not07:17
cdubyastone_, hate to say it, but you might try to download the ISO again, if it's not too painful on your connection.07:17
whyamibecuase I want to put just a minimal install on this disk image.07:17
dlistone_, why it is not fine?07:17
stone_cdubya: step ahead of ya07:17
tritiumstone_: if the checksum was correct, the image was good07:17
stone_already 33mb into it07:17
stone_250kb/sec07:17
dliwhyami, I don't know ubuntu has a minimum, go debian07:17
Whyvasstone_, did you try the cd check in the boot menu?07:17
cdubyastone_, installed that on a Bondi here at that house that I had several of laying around.....it was kinda fun actually07:17
whyamithe server install is minimum enough. This is what I want to install.07:18
cdubyastone_, figuring out the right mouse click equivalents was interesting.....heh07:18
stone_i am frm a mac family. got three here with me.07:18
Madpilotstone_, run the torrent instead - bittorrent does checking as it downloads07:18
dlitritium, theoretically, the image could be still bad07:18
igcek[4295403.500000]  VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdb.07:18
igcek[4295403.514000]  VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev sdb.07:18
igcek[4295403.527000]  VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev sdb.07:18
igcek[4295403.542000]  ReiserFS: sdb: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on sdb07:18
igcek[4295403.556000]  ReiserFS: sdb: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on sdb07:18
igcek[4295403.570000]  XFS: bad magic number07:18
igcek[4295403.570000]  XFS: SB validate failed07:18
igcek[4295403.584000]  XFS: bad magic number07:18
igcek[4295403.584000]  XFS: SB validate failed07:18
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cdubyastone_, /me grew up on macs.....but haven't bought a new one yet07:18
Apostle^igcek, pastebin.com please07:18
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Whyvasand the KICK!07:18
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intelikeysome older boards have enough ram on board to boot w/o any sticks....  some only run the bios test if they have ram....  most key the speeker about three times indicating the unable to post bios error.   Apostle^07:18
stone_i hae issues with bittorrent. my ISP is the public school across the street and it blocks BT07:18
tritiumNo, he's not kicked, just quieted07:18
stone_tritium: that was cool. you're a stealth op!07:19
tritiumdli: the MD5 collision issue is very rare07:19
Apostle^intelikey, mine is a newer, p4 pci-express board, when i remove the ram no beeps, when i boot it with it no beeps, but also nothing else07:19
Madpilotstoat, all the ops here are "stealthed" ;)07:19
tritiumstone_: we don't like to remain opped07:19
stone_Madpilot: stoat?07:19
mugzieok i in synaptic what now what should i look under for java?07:19
dlitritium, theoretically, it's very rare07:19
cdubyaheh07:19
Madpilotstone_, gah - tab-complete error...07:19
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stone_and where did this ridiculous _ come from in my nick?07:20
stone_weird07:20
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whyamiso how do I install the server installation files on a mounted hd image?07:20
Apostle^stone_, 'stone' is probably taken07:20
borikangeli got problem with linux, anybody help me????07:20
cdubyastone_, I think it does that if that's a second choice07:20
Whyvasgod this channel is frustrating07:20
tritiumdli: even practically, it's very rare ;)07:20
stone_tritium: you've got an @07:20
stone_!07:20
ubotustone_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:20
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intelikeyApostle^ i'd pull all periferials and test with only the speaker pluged in.  no drives no sound/vidio nothing   if possable.07:21
tritiumstone_: I had to unquiet somebody ;)07:21
stone_tritium: where did your @ go?07:21
stone_it left!07:21
tritiumdoh!07:21
Apostle^intelikey, i see, what does the speaker look like07:21
dliwhyami, you cp the vmlinuz, initrd, and the .iso installation image from the installation cd to hdd, and install hdd to load the vmlinuz image07:21
Apostle^intelikey, the cord atleast07:21
borikangeldam07:21
tritiumWhyvas: what's the matter?07:21
intelikeysmall two wire with a dubble female plug07:22
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dliwhyami, if you mean, you want an installation hdd rather than an installation cd07:22
Whyvasjust a never ending flow of annoyances07:22
Apostle^intelikey, hmm, i don't really know what that means :-)07:22
stone_just broke 100mb on the download07:22
stone_should this partition i am using for the Ubuntu be "Free space" or simple empty but formatted?07:23
dlistone_, you can use jigdo to download .iso07:23
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intelikeyApostle^ if you can recognize 'the speaker' in the box.  follow the wires from it.07:23
stone_dli: jigdo?07:23
whyamidli: what I want is a disk image which I can then copy onto another machine and will just boot up ubuntu.07:23
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Apostle^intelikey, does it look like an ordinary speaker?07:23
intelikeyyep most of them do07:23
dliwhyami, cp your current installation to it07:23
whyamidli: my current installation is too big.07:24
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Apostle^intelikey, the video is built in, is that okay07:24
charchuckCan anyone help me with a repository problem?  I'm new to all of this and am getting a message I don't understand.07:24
stone_btw, check this out07:24
stone_http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/07:24
intelikeynot really.  but nothing you can do about it.07:24
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dliwhyami, then, you chroot to it, and remove packages07:24
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stone_my maintainer is a close friend of mine. he got me into linux stuff07:24
silvalyninhey guys, i just got ubuntu installed, but i'm having trouble getting Flash installed07:24
dlicharchuck, pastebin the error message07:25
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Apostle^intelikey, well i have a pci-express card, but i removed it to rule it out as being the problem07:25
stone_silvalynin: try gnash. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/07:25
dlicharchuck, if you don't want others to guess07:25
charchuckW: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:25
charchuckW: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:25
mugziehey guys im in synaptic but which java do i install?07:25
mugzie??07:26
tritiumcharchuck: don't do that again please07:26
silvalyninstone, is that just as good?07:26
dlitritium, my fault, I should have said, "go to pastebin.com, and paste it there" :(07:26
intelikeyApostle^ yes.  that is the idea.   zero in on the exact culpret.  then you will know what needs to be done.  as long as the condition is "doesn't work"  it's kinda hard to fix...  when the error is known then a course of action becomes plain.07:26
tritiumdli: no problem :)07:27
charchuckI'm sorry... Someone asked to see the error message.  Like I said, I'm new to all of this.07:27
stone_silvalynin: i dunno. never used it before, but a close friend mad it07:27
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Apostle^intelikey, i think the whole MB is fried for some reason07:27
tritiumcharchuck: it's no problem :)07:27
mugzieum can someone help?07:27
dlicharchuck, yes, but I said, "pastebin it" :( ask ubotu about pastebin07:27
Apostle^intelikey, even though visual inspection reveals no damaged07:27
Madpilotcharchuck, next time, use pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:27
silvalyninoo, anyway to just get the original file working?07:27
stone_ok time for this little boy to go to bed07:27
stone_i gotta walk the woman to the bus at 9am07:27
intelikeyApostle^ it indeed can be.    one other thing.  have you replaced the cpu to see if it's a core falt ?07:28
stone_goodnight, friends. thank you all much for your patience and assistance07:28
cdubyamugzie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca07:28
cdubyastone_, later07:28
charchuckHeh, sorry.  I thought it was a typo and you just meant paste.  Sorry. =] 07:28
silvalyninnite07:28
mugzieno no im in synpatic like everyone told me to07:28
charchuckThanks for the address though.07:28
silvalyninso, can anyone help me with getting Flash installed?07:28
mugzieu just wanna know what java file do i download i want the run time07:28
Apostle^intelikey, l don't have another pentium 4 to put in it, i'm going to take it to the shop i guess.07:28
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dli!ubotu tell silvalynin about flash07:28
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intelikeyApostle^ putting that cpu in another box would be a good test.    (even at a shop)07:29
cdubyasilvalynin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29           look for the flash section07:29
mugziebut im kinda confused'07:29
silvalyninalright, thanks both of you07:29
dlisilvalynin, I like firefox because I really hate flash :(07:29
cdubyamugzie, the jre07:29
Apostle^intelikey, yea, i wonder how much they charge for a problem find, estimate whatever you want to call it, maybe even free if you have them do the work07:30
mugzieok07:30
tritiumGood night, all07:30
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cdubyalater tritium07:30
tritiumsee you cdubya07:30
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mugziewait i dont see a fre sorry if i seem stupid :(07:31
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mugziejre i meant07:31
intelikeyApostle^ well this is not an official computer shop.  but we've never charged for diagnosis.    it generates more business if people feel like you are trying to help them...07:31
cdubyamugzie, yeah, if you click on the link in the wiki there to http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp07:31
Apostle^intelikey, yea, this is a local pc shop i'm going to take it to so maybe free07:31
lasindiHi all, how do you mount a "Linux LVM" partition? I've been trying with just "mount /dev/hda5 /blah" but it tells me to specify a filesystem.07:32
Apostle^intelikey, i know bestbuy is $5007:32
cdubyamugzie, then scroll down to the JRE installer link07:32
mugzieok07:32
mugziegot ya now07:32
intelikeyok back to my code.  luck with it Apostle^07:32
Apostle^intelikey, thanks, later07:32
cdubyamugzie, just follow those wiki docs to the t and you should be good to go.07:33
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Centaur5Is there a way to switch whether the sound goes out the speakers or the headphone jack on a laptop?07:34
mugziecduya should i get the rpm self extracting or the.....regular self extracting07:35
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charchuckAll right!  Fixed the problem.  Thanks guys.07:35
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njdavidHow do I edit my resolutions?07:36
njdavidI know my card and monitor support 1280x102407:36
cdubyamugzie, get the .bin file07:36
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njdavidBut it's at 1152x864 now.07:36
mugziethere both.bin07:36
mugzieones rpm tho07:36
bimberiubotu tell njdavid about fixres07:37
mugzieones rpm.bin07:37
silvalyninhmm how would I be able to access all of my music that's on my Windows partition?07:37
cdubyamugzie, download the one that says "Linux self-extracting file"07:37
bimberiCentaur5: double-click on the volume applet - I have a separate Headphone volume slider07:37
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cdubyasilvalynin, mount the partition07:37
bimberi!mountwindows07:38
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:38
njdavidbimberi, I've already done that and added it when I reconfigured, it's not available as an option in preferences.07:38
Centaur5bimberi: Okay, I already checked that.  I guess there probably isn't good enough support for my sound card.07:38
miguelsrdoes ubuntu have an internal firewall like windows?07:38
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bimberinjdavid: hmmk07:38
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bimberiCentaur5: do you have the ALSA mixer selected (File -> Change Device)?07:39
Centaur5bimberi: Yeah, there's just master and pcm07:39
pemdasi!fixres07:39
ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:39
dlimiguelsr, don't worry about it, ubuntu is secure by default, while windows in insecure by default07:39
bimberiCentaur5: ok, i'm out then sorry :|07:40
silvalyninbimberi can you tell me how I would go about running diskmounter, i'm a complete linux noob, this is my first time ever using it07:40
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intelikeylight weight text and graphical  user friendly.07:40
cdubyasilvalynin, it tells you how on that wiki link he gave earlier07:41
Centaur5bimberi: Thanks, it's not your fault.  I just read that I should be able to adjust that and I wanted to double check that I was doing it right.07:41
intelikeyin the repos07:41
cdubyahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:41
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silvalynin"Save this file on your local hard drive"07:41
silvalyninsave the web page?07:41
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bimberisilvalynin: yes07:42
bimberisilvalynin: then open a terminal, 'cd Desktop'  (or wherever it saved the file) and 'sudo bash diskmounter'07:42
silvalyninalright i did it, thanks07:43
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grteHey, can anybody tell me how I can grep a man page?07:44
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intelikeygrte via man ?    man /path/to/file07:46
MeshezabeelGreetings, can anyone tell me if there is something included in Ubuntu that is not included in Edubuntu?07:46
grteThe man file is in gz, though.  I tried grepping it directly and got nothing.07:46
cdubyabetter call it a night. g'nite all07:46
intelikeyman can do files as well as the normal man pages07:46
Meshezabeelg'nite cdubya07:46
grteYeah, I get that.07:46
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bimberigrte: man -P cat whatever | grep string07:47
grteWhat I'm wondering, though, is how I can grep a man page to show the entries I'm looking for.07:47
bimberi?07:47
silvalynini can't play mp3's...07:47
bimberi'-P cat'  is use cat as the pager07:47
intelikeygzip -v blah | grep string     maybe what you are askinf07:48
tokennrgor use zcat07:48
bimberiyes zcat07:48
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grteOkay, I'll give that a try.07:48
silvalyninwhat program should i use to play mp3's?07:48
Madpilotubotu, tell silvalynin about mp307:48
bimberi!mp307:49
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:49
silvalyninby default it's trying to use Totem movie player07:49
silvalyninoo07:49
Madpilotsilvalynin, see the pm the bot just sent you07:49
silvalyninthanks07:49
whyamiis there a way to convert a Debian system to ubuntu? I tried changing the sources list to Breezy and did an apt-get dist-upgrade. Now some things (like sudo for example) are broken.07:49
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detWhat is the best way to enable beagle when I log in?07:50
tokennrgwhyami: I've got to think that probably won't work well07:50
whyamitokennrg: well...it didn't! :-)07:50
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Meshezabeelwhyami, back up files you need and wipe your system07:51
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whyamiMeshezabeel: then run the install CD?07:51
intelikeywhyami sudo is over rated anyway.   remove -purge it and reinstalle it....07:51
Meshezabeelwhyami yes07:51
mugzieim still having problems i did exactly what the wiki said and firefox stilll says i dont have java runtime enviorment?07:51
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ferronicawhyvas; wilu help me07:52
Madpilotmugzie, did you follow the "Selecting the default Java version" section of the wiki page?07:52
Meshezabeelinstall cd will let you wipe your existing debian partition anyhow07:52
ferronicawhyvas; if u dont hav any probelm???07:52
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mugziegrr no i didnt let me do that07:52
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ferronicawhyvas; can i burn CD in ubuntu???07:53
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Madpilotferronica, of course. Stick a blank CD in, and Ubuntu should popup a window asking you what you want to do with it07:53
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intelikeyMeshezabeel unless you are a pretty good hand at linux the install cd wont let you install on a partition with files still on it....07:54
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ferronicawhyvas; So there is no need to launch application first???07:54
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Madpilotferronica, just stick a blank CD in and watch what happens...07:55
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intelikeyMadpilot yes.  now what is the ubuntu way to stop it from doing that ?07:55
Meshezabeelintelikey, there's an option on the CD to "erase existing partition", haven't ever needed it though so I'm not sure07:55
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ferronicaMadpilot: If i wanna to launch application???07:55
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Madpilotferronica & intelikey: just close the popup window and open whatever other burning app you want to use07:55
ferronicaMadpilot: wanna to see options, bcoz in synaptic it shows me installed07:55
Apostle^how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?07:55
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mugzieok now in terminal i get there are 3 alternatives which provide java which one do ipick07:56
ferronicaMadpilot: ok let me insert one blank CD ok07:56
Madpilotmugzie, the one that says "sun" in the name somewhere07:56
MeshezabeelI am currently using Edubuntu in the lab at the school, but am wondering does Ubuntu also come with KTouch? I'm trying to find app lists on the different distributsions, but they all seem very vague. If someone can direct me to a page that lists all apps that would also be helpful.07:56
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intelikeyMadpilot not my question.   i mean make it stop "auto-detecting" things like the insertion of a cd07:56
jake_is there a howto on modifying the standard initrd?07:57
bimberiMeshezabeel: http://packages.ubuntu.com07:57
Madpilotintelikey, there's a checkbox on the "I've found a blank CD" popup, I think07:57
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mugzienope no sun in the name i got usr/bin/gij-wrapper4.0  isr/lib/jvm/java-gjc/bin/java or usr/lib/jse/1.4/bin/java07:57
Apostle^how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?07:57
ferronicaMadpilot: ok i hav inserted one blank CD, but i wanna to make one mp307:57
Madpilotmugzie, you want the jse one, I think07:58
ferronicaMadpilot: there is no option to creat Mp3 playback07:58
mugzieok thanks07:58
jake_I figured out how to extract the existing initrd, and made the modifications I want, but can't rebuild it07:58
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Madpilotferronica, you can get mp3 support in Serpentine to get mp3s onto an audio CD, I think (I have no music in mp3, so I'm not sure...)07:59
intelikeyjake_ man mkcramfs07:59
jake_thanks intelikey07:59
ferronicaMadpilot: Is it available in synaptic pacakge manager07:59
Meshezabeelbiberi, are these packages all included in the Live CD, or do some have to be downloaded and installed from repositories?07:59
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Apostle^how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?08:00
jake_it seems to be a cifo archive though08:00
ferronicaMadpilot: Or i hav to install it from outside08:00
Madpilotferronica, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerpentineHowTo08:00
bimberiMeshezabeel: that's everything.  LiveCD only has a selection08:01
Meshezabeelbimberi, spelled your name wrong above08:01
bimberiMeshezabeel: i got it eventually :)08:01
Meshezabeel:)08:01
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monsterbWhat's command to list details about a drive?08:01
DBOhdparm /dev/<drive>08:02
pemdasimonsterb what kind of details?08:02
intelikeyfkisk -l /dev/blah08:02
pemdasidf -h08:02
Meshezabeelbimberi, I am looking for the apps that are directly available on the live/desktop CD08:02
fiendfkisk?08:02
Madpilotferronica, just a sec, there's an "adding mp3 support to Serpentine" tutorial somewhere...08:02
pemdasiif you just want space used/free08:02
pemdasion all mounted drives08:02
intelikeypemdasi hmmm that ould only list fs stats08:02
bimberiMeshezabeel: yes, unfortunately i don't know where that's listed sorry :|08:02
pemdasiintelikey yeah, not sure what kind of information they want08:03
monsterbpemdasi: file sizes and how much space is avail08:03
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intelikeydu   df    file    stat     all good commends08:04
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Apostle^how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?08:04
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ferronicaMadpilot: Ok i found it08:05
mugziegrr it still says i dont got it damnit im so mad08:05
coolioim trying to isntall mythtv and im having a bit of trouble and im sort of a newbie. I read a tutorial and in one of the commands that i have to execute it is this: "modprobe ivtv"08:05
ferronicaMadpilot: i hav just added 193 MB size mp308:06
ferronicaMadpilot: and it telling me disc capacity exceeded08:06
coolioBut i get an error saying: "Fatal: Module ivtv not found."08:06
cooliohttp://s91928265.onlinehome.us/hfamily/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html08:06
cooliothat is the tutorial08:06
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Meshezabeelbimberi, ok thanks :)08:06
coolioi was hoping that someone can tell me why it doesnt work.... :)08:06
Madpilotferronica, odd - you did add the mp3 support to Serpentine?08:06
Apostle^anyone know how to activate putting evolution into system tray?08:07
ferronicaMadpilot: i added nothing08:07
intelikey193m mp3  lol  what is it four weeks of music ?08:07
ferronicaMadpilot: just opened it08:07
intelikey!mp308:08
ubotumethinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:08
monsterb!freespace08:08
ubotumonsterb: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:08
ferronicaMadpilot: can i download it vis synaptic pacakage manager???08:08
intelikeymonsterb df08:08
mugzieman i can believe this didnt work im so dang frustrated is there anyway i can use the synaptic to install java runtime enviorment to my firefox?08:08
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Madpilotferronica, no, you need to edit one bit of Serpentine's settings to get mp3 to burn08:09
Apostle^anyone know how to activate putting evolution into system tray?08:09
monsterbintelikey: thx08:09
mugzieanyone?08:09
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intelikeymonsterb no problem.  but it was answered by several when you first asked.08:10
fiendmugzie, have you search packages.ubuntu.com?08:10
mugzieno i havent08:10
Madpilotferronica, gah, sorry, I'm not thinking now - it's late - AFAIK if you can play mp3 in Ubuntu, you should be able to play them08:10
intelikeyhmmm no festival for ub5.4 ???08:11
Madpilotburn them, even...08:11
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bimberi!info festival hoary08:12
ubotufestival: (general multi-lingual speech synthesis system), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.4.3-16 (hoary), Packaged size: 841 kB, Installed size: 2516 kB08:12
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bimberiintelikey: seems it's there08:13
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ferronica1??????????????????????08:13
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Apostle^anyone know how to activate putting evolution into system tray?08:13
ferronica1Madpilot: what i hav to ADD in serpetine????????????08:13
ferronica1Madpilot: to creat mp3 CD08:14
Madpilotferronica, can you play mp3s in Ubuntu? If you can, you should be able to burn mp3s into audio w/ Serpentine08:14
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ferronica1Madpilot: YES, i use VLC player tp play08:14
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ferronica1Madpilot: i am able to add mp3 to serpetine but it shpwing me space eceeded08:15
ferronica1Madpilot: disk capacity exceeded08:15
Madpilotferronica1, that I'm not sure about, but you should be able to burn the things, at least08:15
intelikeybimberi ah yes forgot i had disabled some repos for a forced downgrade....   ;/08:16
bimberiintelikey: aha :)08:16
Trashcan:( 168kb/s, 1h15m33s remaining :(08:17
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intelikeyone thing about tweeking the whole box... one can forget what they have and haven't changed.....    "except there is nothing i haven't changed...."08:18
aftertafbling :)08:18
Trashcanlol intellikey- nice one08:18
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ferronica1any one here uses to burn mp308:20
aftertafyep, k3b08:21
monsterb!SETTINGS.DAT08:21
ubotumonsterb: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:21
ferronica1HELP!08:21
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Trashcanferronica1> any one here uses to burn mp3 <--- was that a sentence?08:22
monsterbTrashcan: Are u a english teacher? lol08:23
Trashcannope, but he's being pushy and didn't even ask a question :o08:23
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ferronica1Trashcan: if u can understand fine08:23
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monsterbI like cheese.08:23
Trashcanlol08:24
ferronica1Trashcan: no time to explain whole thing08:24
ferronica1Trashcan: Do u know???08:24
Trashcanknow WHAT?08:24
ferronica1Trashcan: to burn Mp3 CD08:24
Trashcantake time to explain *something*08:24
aftertafferronica1, what is your actual question?08:24
monsterbferronical: use k3b to burn mp3s to CD.08:24
aftertaf^^ yes08:25
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ferronica1aftertaf: i wanna to creat mp3 CD using serpetine08:25
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ferronica1aftertaf: i hav serpetine installed08:25
aftertafnever used it. k3b myself...08:25
aftertaf!serpentine08:26
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, aftertaf08:26
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ferronica1aftertaf: dont know why it showing capacity exceeded08:26
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aftertafbefore you burn?08:26
aftertafhow many minutes?08:26
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ferronica1aftertaf: by default sets to 42 miniutes08:27
ferronica1aftertaf: but my CD is 700Mb which means 80 miniutes08:27
aftertafby default? you mean it will only burn 42 mins of audio?08:27
drcodeany one know about video card?08:28
aftertafferronica1, try k3b..... seriously08:28
drcodeI Need to know what is the best08:28
drcodeGIGABYTE nVidia PCX6600GT08:28
drcode128MB DDR3, MEM CLOCK 1000, TV, 128BIT, DVI, SILENT PIPE08:28
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drcodeand GIGABYTE nVidia PCX6600GT08:28
drcode256MB DDR2, MEM CLOCK 1000, TV, 128BIT, DVI, HDTV08:28
monsterbferronical: how many mp3s are u trying to burn?08:28
aftertafferronica1, its like nero...as easy to use08:28
ferronica1aftertaf: what abot gnome baker08:28
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aftertafmonsterb, it only proposes 42mins of burning....08:28
aftertafferronica1, the only soft to burn cds that i've managed to get working easily is k3b. so i stick withn it.08:29
ferronica1aftertaf: hav u ever used it08:29
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ferronica1aftertaf: Gnome baker08:29
aftertafno never08:30
killapopferronica1: gnomebaker is very good08:30
monsterbaftertaf: on ferronical computer or all? mine goes up to 90min08:30
Madpilotferronica1, in Serpentine, there should be a dropdown to chose the length/size of the CD you're using08:30
aftertafmonsterb, on ferronica1 's pc...08:30
killapopferronica1: i used both k3b and gnomebaker and they're both good.08:30
monsterbaftertaf: oh08:30
user429since you're talking about CD burning, I have a question when you've solved the current issue, if no one minds08:30
aftertaflol08:31
aftertafask.08:31
DBOuser429, go ahead and ask now08:31
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aftertafcomplications help make things easier to mess up/ er i mean understand...08:31
alex_joniis there a channel for developers ?08:31
ferronica1aftertaf: can i send u one screen shot???08:31
user429I just tried to burn a CD with Serpentine, after downloading the right packages to get it to read Mp3 files...08:31
monsterbaftertaf ferronical : I agree, k3b would be the best - just like nero08:31
user429it only burned 3 audio tracks, and finished08:31
aftertafferronica1, ive never used the others..... did you see what Madpilot said?08:31
Madpilotalex_joni, #ubuntu-devel08:31
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aftertafuser429, argh!!!!!!! k3b :] 08:32
user429the CD plays fine... it doesn't seem to be a bad burn... but it only contains 3 tracks08:32
user429of 1608:32
alex_joniMadpilot: thx08:32
ferronica1in Serpentine, there should be a dropdown to chose the length/size of the CD you're using08:32
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user429so I should just get k3b, eh? I used it once from some other LiveCD Dist.08:32
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DBOuser429, k3b is the best, I like it better than nero08:33
wackois it possible for a cd burner to break if you burn data for a few hours?08:33
ferronica1Madpilot: can i send u screen shot08:33
monsterbuser429: k3b would b my choice08:33
user429wacko: I would hope not08:33
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Madpilotferronica1, hmm, what of?08:34
DBOwacko, its possible for it to break doing just about anything...  its not likely though08:34
wackok3b is my choice as well08:34
ferronica1Madpilot: Serpetine window08:34
wackoo well i am burning 160 gigs of data tonight and hope i dont break my burner08:34
wackodvds08:34
aftertafwacko, thats a BIG DVD dude ;)08:34
ferronica1Madpilot: where it showing me error08:34
user429thanks. I'm sort of still a linux n00b, so I was just trying to make do with whatever was lying around in Ubuntu08:34
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noiesmok3b rocks my world best burning app I reakon08:34
wackoaftertaf: it is many dvds lol08:34
monsterbMadpilot: lol08:34
wackowish i had double layer discs08:35
ferronica1Madpilot: disc usge: 42 miniutes and 21 seconds overlapping08:35
aftertafuser429, apt-get k3b :)08:35
aftertafferronica1, did you find the size of CD dialog?08:35
DBOwacko, you will right until you look how long they take to burn08:35
ferronica1Madpilot: disc cpacity: 80 miniutes08:35
monsterbferronical: do u have a blank cd in drive?08:35
wackoDBO: double layer takes longer?08:35
DBOwacko, much08:36
Madpilotferronica1, so you've got 120 minutes of music, or what?08:36
aftertafnever tried double yet....08:36
ferronica1aftertaf: u mean disc capacity08:36
aftertafferronica1, yup08:36
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wackoDBO: because more data or because the technology is not up to par yet?08:36
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user429aftertaf: am I a loser for using synaptic? hehe08:36
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aftertafuser429, heheh yes.08:37
ferronica1Madpilot: it showing me 42 miniutes and 21 seconds overlapping08:37
aftertafuser429, certainly not ;P08:37
DBOwacko, burning more data = longer burn time, and the newer format also has slower burn rates08:37
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monsterbferronical: im burning 78min worth of music right now on Serpentine ... it works good.08:37
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wackojust got done burning all my music and it was 9 dvds lol08:38
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metatagcat: hi08:38
ferronica1Madpilot: and just below disc capacity exceeded!08:38
cathey is there any automounting bash script for example to automount a windows hd so i can listen to music08:38
cathey metatag08:38
Madpilotferronica1, all I can think if is that there's something wrong with your mp3s...08:38
wackocat: put it in fstab08:38
DBO!tell cat about fstab08:38
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ferronica1Madpilot: accept one file08:39
metatagaeon17x: hi08:39
ferronica1Madpilot: accept it, its a screen shot08:40
aftertaf!pastebin08:40
ubotuI guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126908:40
Madpilotferronica1, use imageshack - I do not accept files thru IRC08:40
monsterbMadpilot: beware of screenshots - lol08:41
wackolol08:41
wackoferronica1: give us a link08:41
metatagwacko: hi08:41
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wackometatag: yes?08:41
mud2005presario 5000z laptop:I had to use acpi=off to get my built in wireless card to work but now I cant see how much battery is left??? and apm isnt supported, what do I do?08:41
metatagwacko: how are you?08:41
wackogood!!!!!!!!!!08:41
ferronicaMadpilot: r u there08:41
user429dang, 5k mhz.... awesome08:41
user429= )08:42
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wackoburning my 160 gigs of data to many dvds tonight08:42
Madpilotferronica, pastebin (or imageshack...) the screenie, then post the URL here08:42
wackomy storage hard drive is failing08:42
metatagwacko: why is it failing?08:42
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wackometatag: i dont know it sucks bady i am getting input/output errors and it mounted itself as read only08:43
ferronicaMadpilot: what is imageshack08:43
wackoferronica: a website to upload images08:44
Madpilotimageshack.us - a free image hosting service.08:44
metatagwacko: ohh why don't you see a doctor?08:44
monsterbwacko: Are u going to scrap it or try to repair it with a low-level format?08:44
wackometatag: your very funny08:44
metatagwacko: thanks08:44
wackoferronica: upload your screenshot here http://www.desktoprating.com/08:44
user429wacko, GRC.com's SpinRite is awesome08:45
me2winMadpilot: on packages.ubuntu.com, do i need to download all the dependencies of something, or if is there a "all together" kind of thing?08:45
Madpilotme2win, no idea - I think you'll have to download everything individually. You can't just let apt-get/Synaptic sort all that out?08:45
metatagme2win: do you use synaptic?08:45
user429peaces08:45
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metatagbtw don't you people find adept buggy.. sort of?08:46
scheurihi all08:46
wackouser i dont need to recover files i am copying them now all  iam going to fsck the disc and try to repair it after08:46
monsterbwacko: You may need a Restraining Order. metatagg like you a little too much.08:46
aftertafmetatag, tell mornfall about it on kubuntu. hes the dev ;)08:46
me2winMadpilot: well, my brother is having problems with his repos, and I wanted to try and SSH in to help him sort them out because the rrors he is getting are really wierd. But Since the repos are screwed, he would need to get the pkg from the website08:46
wackomonsterb: i dont see why he would08:46
aftertafwacko, my /tmp-/var partition does that sometimes. spooky :/08:47
metatagaftertaf: ok08:47
Madpilotme2win, sounds like it might be easier to just rebuild his sources.list08:47
Madpilotme2win, to use different repos08:47
me2winMadpilot: we have several times over, still something is wrong08:47
wackoaftertaf: your temp has input/output errors sometimes?08:47
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me2winMadpilot: like i said, its something really wierd going on08:47
monsterbwacko: what filesystem were u using?08:47
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wackomonsterb: ext308:48
ferronicaMadpilot: where is the option to upload08:48
aftertafwacko, yep08:48
aftertafwacko, separate partition.08:48
Madpilotferronica, from what?08:48
wackoaftertaf: you partion must be failing as well08:48
chripherdoes somebody know how to get a g400 to work in ubuntu08:48
aftertafhappy happy joy joy :(08:48
aftertafchripher, with ppc install cd?08:49
scheurichripher: you mean a geforce? Nvidia?08:49
chripherno Matrox08:49
scheuriuh? g400 is a ppc?08:49
scheuriah08:49
ferronicaMadpilot: image shack08:49
chripherno ppc08:49
chripherinte p308:49
chripherintel08:49
ferronicaMadpilot: i am sending u file accept it please08:49
Madpilotferronica, there should be a button that says "Upload Image" or something like that08:49
scheurichripher: your xserver is not running then?08:49
ferronicaMadpilot: that one is tidious08:50
chripherno I am running on default xorg.conf now08:50
chamowhat's the best linux software (except OOo) for creating Chart ???08:50
me2winKspread?08:50
chripherthe only think I have done is tweaked the refresh rake to 120 but I only get 75  anyway08:51
Madpilotferronica, I don't accept files via IRC, ever. Sorry.08:51
scheurichripher: okay..are you familiar with editing xorg.conf on CLI?08:51
chamohnmmm08:51
chripherno not much I guess CLI is a editor08:51
ferronicaMadpilot: why????????????/////08:51
scheuri!cli08:51
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org08:51
Madpilotferronica, because blocking dcc & such makes life much simpler08:52
chripherwith nano then or ?08:52
scheurichripher: yes...nano, vi, vim...whatever suits you08:52
chripheryes it would be nice to learn some of them08:52
ferronicaMadpilot: ok forget it, tell me what others talking abot k3b08:52
chripherI got het package fram matrox homepage but the how do not work08:53
scheurichripher: well...I can't teach you here, sorry...it is kinda difficult via IRC, but we may find out what driver your xserver is using08:53
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scheurichripher: ah, I see...that packaged is supposed to? contain a driver? do something special?08:53
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chripherscheuri: when I write "sudo sh install.sh" it says that some dir is not found08:54
scheurichripher: what dir?08:55
ferronicawhat other guys talking about cd burner software08:55
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chripherI don not rember now but if I try can I go back with "sudo sh install.sh restore" ?08:55
Meshezabeelyou guys still using dapper drake?08:55
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Madpilotferronica, Applications->Add Applications, search for k3b or Gnomebaker there08:56
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chripherno I use breezy I got the wrong dist08:56
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scheurichripher: sorry, I can't help you there...08:57
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chripherscheuri: just a moment08:57
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scheuriMeshezabeel: what do you mean by STILL using dapper?08:57
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ferronicaMadpilot: i did already08:58
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ferronicaMadpilot: track is toooo large to fit in the remainig space on the CD08:59
ferronicaMadpilot: what dose that mean08:59
Madpilotferronica, if that's with k3b, then the problem is your mp3 files...09:00
monsterbMeshezabeel: yes - the best beta i ever used.09:00
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user429I figured out my problem with Serpentine... or rather that my problem was not with S...09:00
ferronicaMadpilot: right now i am using gnomebaker09:00
Madpilotferronica, given that you09:00
user429Thanks to k3b's debug output option when an error occurs, I found that my crappy RW drive on this machine had an underrun09:01
Madpilot've gotten the same error w/ two burning apps, I'd say there's something messed up with your mp3s...09:01
ferronicaMadpilot: ok09:01
ferronicaMadpilot: but all of them are in mp3 format09:01
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monsterbferronica: do u even have a burner?09:02
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ferronicamonsterb: yes one CD-RW and another is DVD-RW09:02
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monsterbferronica: rip some fresh mp3s from a CD - and try it again - see if it works09:03
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chripherscheuri: Can I send you the error msg in private09:05
ferronicamonsterb: hey in GNOMEBAKER which option to select to creat mp309:05
scheurichripher: feel free09:05
wackoChri[s] : we are not good enough to see the error?09:05
scheuri;)09:05
wackochripher: *09:06
monsterbferronica: i don't have GBAker installed.09:06
ferronicamonsterb: what u use???09:06
monsterbk3b09:06
ferronicamonsterb: i wanna to creat mp3 CD not audio CD09:06
chripherwacko: what ?09:07
monsterbferronica: make a data cd09:07
wackochripher: not much09:07
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ferronicamonsterb: to play back in mp3 player09:07
ferronicamonsterb: if i created data my player wont detect it09:08
monsterbferronica: data cd will do the trick09:08
chripherwacko: do you know much about how to install gfx-cards09:08
scheurichripher: you can also sent the error message to all...:)09:08
wackochripher: in windows i can09:08
ferronicamonsterb: in creating data no problem09:08
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Madpilotchripher, if it's a long error message, use pastebin and just post the pastebin URL here09:09
chripherwacko: me to ... but not ubuntu09:09
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ferronicamonsterb: but there is no such option to creat mp309:09
wackochripher: thats is a good reason you should not run linux09:09
chripherMadpilot: ehm09:09
aftertafferronica, get k3b and try09:09
ferronicamonsterb: how to install it tell mw09:09
chripherwacko: how should I learn then09:09
monsterbferronica: it should be the same thing - a data cd with mp3s on it.09:09
aftertafsudo apt-get install k3b*09:09
wackochripher: pull out your windows install cd and put it in your cd drive and reboot j/k09:10
chripherMadpilot: how to pastebin09:10
Madpilotubotu, tell chripher about pastebin09:10
ferronicamonsterb: if i creat data CD, i can only able to play in computer09:10
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aftertafchripher, what gfx card model?09:11
wackowhats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?09:11
scheuriwacko: that suggestion was off limits in my opinion...there are surely things which are easier in windows than linux, but still...he asked for help09:11
cooliohow do i login as root?09:11
wackoscheuri: i was just kidding did not mean to be an ass09:11
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coolioin console09:11
ferronicamonsterb: So there is no option to creat Mp309:11
chripheraha09:11
scheuriwacko: the desktop...on the CD...ubuntu comes with gnome and kubuntu with KDE09:11
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monsterbferronica: have u tried it?   Thats how I make mine.  I put about 200 mp3s on a data CD - and it plays on my home tv/dvd player.09:11
scheuriwacko: but you can have both desktops on both "versions", you just need to download the respective other desktop09:12
wackoscheuri: thank you i run gentoo so i would not no and i dont know why i am in here just good chat i guess09:12
ferronicamonsterb: dose it worked09:12
aftertafferronica, try with k3b... if that doesnt work then the problem  is elsewhere09:12
monsterbferronica: yes09:12
scheuriwacko: don't worry...I didnt want to offend you...but it somehow bothers me when people answer like "take windows"09:12
ferronicamonsterb: if i use data CD not gettin any problem even serpetine09:13
aftertafargh!!!!09:13
chripherhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1382409:13
wackoscheuri: it should bother you  i dont even like the sound of windows09:13
scheuri:)09:13
monsterbferronica: serpentine is for audio - it converts mp3 to wav to cd --- use k3b to make a mp3 data CD.09:14
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aftertafferronica, please try k3b, just to make us happy.......09:14
ferronicamonsterb: and in GNOMEBAKER????09:14
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ferronicamonsterb: ok okay09:14
ferronicamonsterb: how to install k3b09:15
scheurichripher: I guess (emphasis on guess) that this package wants to install on another X-server, not the one that is shipped with breezy badger09:15
aftertaftype in console: sudo apt-get install k3b09:15
ferronicaok09:15
wackok3b is great hope they make a windows version some day so i can install it on all the computers i work on for people09:15
aftertafferronica, ^^^^^09:15
wackoheck with nero09:15
scheurichripher: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/MatroxParhelia09:15
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ferronicamonsterb: should i uninstall the GNOMEBAKER09:16
wackoanyone try the game enemy territory?09:16
monsterbferronica: use Synaptic to install k3b - - try out Gnomebaker, u might llike it.09:16
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scheuriwacko: a while ago, yes...works on linux and windows quite well (taken that linux has appropriate 3d-driver for graphics09:17
wackoscheuri: it is very fun game did you ever try to get the joystick working?09:17
scheuriwacko: no, sorry...I dont have one...was never an option for me09:18
chripheraftertaf: it is Matrox Milenium G400 Max09:18
chriphernot parhelia09:18
starkesdoes anyone out there know if there is a way to get synaptic, or apt i guess, to rebuild its list of packages you have? mine isnt showing all my installed packages, its over 1000 short...09:18
monsterbferronica: Gnomebaker and k3b are pretty darn close. Try both out, see what u like better.09:18
wackofirst person shooters are better with mouse and keyboard but i wanted to give the joystick a try wit hthis game09:18
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scheurichripher: okay, true...but your one should be supported by the driver that already comes with badger (and the installed xserver)09:19
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PrimoTurboWhat do you guys like more human or tango?09:22
PrimoTurboicon themes09:22
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sanych_laptopWhats is the URL for sync clock in 5.10 - ubuntulinux.org or .com?09:24
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OldHow do i create a user account that has access to 3 specefic maps, and the user will "spawn" in this directory aswell, the home dir for that user would be /home/ , the user should only have access to /var/www, home/ftp, /home/cz09:25
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llama-duckhi folks...09:26
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ferronicamonsterb: its big software i think???09:26
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ferronicamonsterb: it took 10 miniutes to download from termianl09:27
llama-duckhas anyone else upgraded ther kernel and can't find the kernel headers ?09:27
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monsterbferronica: good luck09:27
ferronicamonsterb: listen listen09:28
llama-duckI moved to 2.6.12-11-686, and there's no headers package :'(09:28
ferronicamonsterb: writer speed verification-K3b09:28
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ferronicamonsterb: CD-RW writing speed = 99x09:29
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ferronicamonsterb: DVD-RW writing speed = 48x09:29
aftertaf99x ?09:29
aftertafhmmmmmmmmmmm09:29
ferronicaaftertaf: so high lol09:30
ferronicaaftertaf: so high lol09:30
aftertafsuspects a bork somewhere09:30
ferronicaaftertaf: what???09:31
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scheurillama-duck: is your linux-header not listed at a "aptitude search linux-headers"?09:31
ferronicaaftertaf: what???09:31
ferronicaaftertaf: there is option to increase and decrease writing speed09:32
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Chri[s] select a writing speed09:32
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ferronicaChris[s] : how much for cd-rw09:33
ferronicaChris[s] : how much for cd-rw = 52x09:33
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chripherscheuri: you still here09:34
mud2005presario 5000z laptop:I had to use acpi=off to get my built in wireless card to work but now I cant see how much battery is left??? and apm isnt supported, what do I do?09:34
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llama-duckscheuri: no - it's not listed09:35
scheurichripher: yes09:35
scheurillama-duck: that is really odd...are you on breezy badger or dapper drake?09:35
chripherscheuri: do you know if DRI also is in breezy09:36
llama-duckbadger09:36
scheurichripher: it surely should...you might to have install it actually...not sure09:36
scheurillama-duck: oh..that might be the reason...maybe they follow in a few days09:36
llama-duckII have 2.6.12-11-686  and the latest version listed is linux-headers-2.6.12-10-68609:37
chripherscheuri: how to check tha out ?09:37
llama-duckscheuri: gah!09:37
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scheurichripher: good question...you just crossed the point where I am lost as well...:)09:37
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chripherscheuri: btw some more easy question how to play mp3 in a good sleak player09:37
scheurillama-duck: and that does not work with these two?09:38
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schizoschafhi09:38
scheurichripher: well, I use amarok or xmms...but there are many others...09:38
schizoschafFATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition3: Partition ends in the final partial cyli09:38
schizoschafcfdisk says this ^^ and doesn't start09:38
llama-duckit works, but I can't compile a vmware module...09:38
schizoschafanyone has an idea09:38
chripherscheuri: is there any one like winamp09:38
llama-ducksame old story I guess09:38
schizoschaf?09:38
scheurichripher: I guess xmms is nearest to winamp09:38
chripherscheuri: and then I mean the old one09:39
Chri[s] how come i cant make an icon to lauch 'wine ./wine/drive_c/Program Files/PokerStars/PokerStars.exe' ?09:39
scheurillama-duck: aaahh...vmware...well...thanks for the tip...wont upgrade my badger today..;)..09:39
OldHow do i create a user account that has access to 3 specefic maps, and the user will "spawn" in this directory aswell, the home dir for that user would be /home/ , the user should only have access to /var/www, home/ftp, /home/cz09:39
DBOllama-duck, isnt the newest version of linux-image-686 2.6.12.16, which doesn have a header package09:39
chripherscheuri:  is xmms package name can I use apt-get09:39
aftertafyes.09:40
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scheurichripher: yes, but if you are not sure, try a "aptitude search xmms" first, it will list everything with xmms in their name09:40
aftertafin doubt, try apt-cache search [package] 09:40
aftertafhehe09:40
llama-duckDBO: it might be the newest, but I have 2.6.12-10-68609:40
scheuri:)09:40
DBOllama-duck, try sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 linux-headers-68609:41
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chripherscheuri: what is command fore search09:41
Chri[s] what is the difference between 386 and 68609:41
scheurichripher: which command?09:42
chripherChri[s] : good question09:42
aftertafoptimised kernel.09:42
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DBOChri[s] , a 686 kernel takes advantage of instruction sets that 386 wont09:42
aftertafone for pentium compatible and up, one for P3/p409:42
shadukanhi again09:42
shadukanafter long time09:43
chripherscheuri: fore seraching for package09:43
OldAnyone ?09:43
OldHow do i create a user account that has access to 3 specefic maps, and the user will "spawn" in this directory aswell, the home dir for that user would be /home/ , the user should only have access to /var/www, home/ftp, /home/cz09:43
scheurichripher: aptitude search [name] 09:43
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chripherscheuri: ah thanks09:44
scheurichripher: welcome09:44
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chripherscheuri: how come I can not see smb's when I browse my Desktop but they are there ?09:45
scheurichripher: smbs?09:45
eso3ahyfkruykuylkdyj09:45
DBOsamba shares?09:45
chripherscheuri: windows share's09:45
eso3ayes yes you fuck tu madre09:46
eso3afuch the mother09:46
eso3afuck fuck fuck09:46
metataghi eso3a09:46
metatageso3a: how are you?09:46
eso3ahi tatag09:46
eso3aim from spain09:46
eso3ayou?09:46
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metatageso3a: whats up pal? am from mauritius09:47
eso3amorocco??09:47
scheurichripher: many reasons possible actually...09:47
aftertaf!ops09:47
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!09:47
scheurichripher: best thing is to address the smb directly (including the name of share within address)09:47
metatageso3a: no mauriitus.. small tropical island in indian ocean09:47
benplautaftertaf: no ops at this time of night :P09:47
eso3aspeak spanish tatag??09:48
DBObenplaut, naw, they just are asleep09:48
metatageso3a: no.. but I can speak hindi09:48
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metatageso3a: namaste09:48
eso3allevas plumas y fumas la pipa d la paz??09:48
jmhodgeshey, could someone help me debug a sound issue? it was all working fine before i rebooted.. this is in dapper09:49
DBOjmhodges, whats the deal?09:49
eso3afuck the mother tatag09:49
metatageso3a: smoking pipes?09:49
chripherscheuri: can not paly any file09:49
jmhodgesmpg123 nor rhythmbox nor totem-xine are shoving any music to my speakers09:49
eso3ayes yes chocolat09:49
jmhodgesso its not a gstreamer issue09:49
aftertafeso3a, watch your language. this is a public channel.09:49
aftertafplease...09:49
metatageso3a: hehe you are funny...09:49
scheurichripher: well...gimme a second09:49
chripherscheuri: bad codec says totem and xmms says nothing09:49
jmhodgesim seeing that snd_ac97_codec is being used by snd_emu10k1 and snd_via82xx09:49
metatagaftertaf: did you ban him?09:50
jmhodgesand i know that i have a  sound blaster card (i.e. snd_emu10k1)09:50
scheurichripher: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for mp309:50
aftertaflol no09:50
aftertafme not op.09:50
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jmhodgesbut i'm not sure if an rmmod snd_via82xx is going to solve this09:50
nalioth_zZzaftertaf: ?09:50
aftertafindeed nalioth_zZz  :)09:50
aftertafhi09:50
chripherscheuri: I hade to copy to desktop to be able to play09:50
jmhodgesDBO, thats the problem09:50
jmhodgesheh09:50
aftertafhowdy even :] 09:50
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DBOjmhodges, did you just perform the upgrade?09:50
scheurichripher: ...oh?09:50
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chriphercan not play through samba/windows share09:51
jmhodgesDBO, nah, i did it a couple of reboots ago09:51
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jmhodgesDBO, it was working fine until the last reboot it seems09:51
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DBOjmhodges, lets test and see if any sound works first "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"09:51
jmhodgesiirc, there was an alsa update09:51
aftertafyeah :)09:51
DBOjmhodges, you should get whitenoise09:51
chripherscheuri: bad thing I got all music on my windows server09:51
jmhodgesDBO, yeah, no whitenoise09:51
czrcat /proc/kcore > /dev/dsp is much more fun btw ;-)09:52
jmhodgesthe speaker is plugged straight into the snd_emu10k1 card09:52
jmhodgeshaha09:52
chripherscheuri: nice talking to you09:52
jmhodgesit works on /dev/dsp109:52
scheurichripher: welcome09:52
chripherscheuri: for how long have you run Ubuntu ?09:52
czrwas my first audio program back some years ago. to open 44kHz 16b stereo and put /proc/kcore there09:52
jmhodgesand shocked the hell out of me when it did09:52
czrit was an interesting experience09:52
DBOjmhodges, ok, well then OSS is working09:52
jmhodgesyep, seems like it09:52
scheurichripher: nearly a year...mostly debian though09:52
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DBOjmhodges, try getting one of your audio apps to use OSS and see if you get that to work09:52
czrjmhodges, for some reason the module load order is now different and your mobo integrated via82xx is loaded first hence it gets the first dsp-dev09:53
chripherscheuri: is dabber better then badger09:53
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jmhodgesczr, yep, thats what it sounds like09:53
czris there a nice way to disable some specific module from loading in ubuntu?09:53
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czrother than renaming the module .ko file which would be a kludge09:53
DBOyou can blacklist modules09:53
jmhodgesman, i remember there was one..09:53
czrhow?09:53
jmhodgesits kludgy09:53
jmhodgesi haven thad to do it since i rana source based distro09:53
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DBO!blacklist09:54
czrdisabling ivp6 for one would be nice09:54
scheurichripher: it will be surely newer...09:54
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jmhodges/etc/modprobe/blacklist09:54
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czrI only have /etc/modprobe.d/09:54
DBOyeah, appearantly ubotu now sends !command to /msg instead of to channel09:54
czrno blacklist there09:54
jmhodgesthats odd09:54
jmhodgesi definitely have one here09:54
DBOczr, just make it09:54
czrmodprobe or under modprobe.d?09:54
czrwhere is this documented?09:55
DBO!tell czr about blacklist09:55
czrand blacklist is name of modules one per line that are not allowed to be loaded?09:55
jmhodgesi just found it by pocking around my /etc heh09:55
jmhodgesand its definitely modprobe.d on this machine09:55
stramFUCKING COCK SUCKER09:55
stramFUCKING BRUNNER09:55
czrthanks dbo09:55
jmhodgeshmmm09:55
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jmhodgesweird09:55
jmhodgesthere is a symlink called "blacklist-oss"09:56
DBOjmhodges, that would be due to ubuntu being based off sid09:56
eggzeckmaybe he did it in the wrong channel?09:56
jmhodgesbut its apparently not being used09:56
DBO(the modprobe.d thing)09:56
jmhodgesah there.09:56
jmhodgesDBO, yeah?09:56
jmhodgesmeaning that this is not the proper way of doing things now?09:56
DBOno, it is the proper way, I was just explaining why its in /etc/modprobe.d instead of /etc/hotplug09:57
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jmhodgesahhhh ok09:57
DBOsarge has it in the latter, sid uses the former09:57
jmhodgesweird09:57
jmhodgestheres a call in modprobe.d/alsa-base that cgoes like this:  options snd-via82xx-modem index=-209:58
jmhodgesthats the weird thing09:58
jmhodgesno mention of snd_emu10k109:58
jmhodgeswait09:58
jmhodgesyes there is above it.. .an install command09:58
jmhodgeswtf09:58
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KismetHi All!09:58
chripherscheuri: what is newest firefox ver ?09:59
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scheurichripher: as far as I know it is 1.5.0.3...09:59
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chripherscheuri: but why does it say I got the newest then when firefox says 1.0.810:00
DBObreezy = 1.0.7, dapper = 1.5.0.3, mozilla stable = 1.5.0.3, mozilla trunk = 2.0alpha10:00
KismetAll the time that I enable dri + fglrx or dri + radeon on my X.org configuration with Dapper the machine hang up... I think thare is a bug with the kernel...10:00
Kismet...any idea?10:00
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DBOchripher, yeah, you are on breezy, thats the latest version for breezy10:00
chripherDBO: can't I have 1.5 on breezy10:01
chripherblh10:01
DBO!tell chripher about ff1.510:01
scheurichripher: well, there are different releases...one is 1.0.x and one is 1.5.x10:01
DBOKismet, running xgl?10:01
chripherhow to upgrade to dapper ?10:01
crazy_penguinchipher: modify the sources.list10:01
DBO!tell chripher about upgrade10:02
crazy_penguinwere it says breezy write dapper10:02
scheurichripher: I recommend to wait another month, dapper is still beta but will be released in June10:02
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scarnu can update over the net aswell10:02
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scarnbut i would wait for the release10:03
scheurichripher: firefox 1.0.8 and 1.5.0.3 are both secure on their leve, 1.0.8 just has some features less...10:03
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sanych_laptopGuys, where I can find a list of services which are launched on startup?10:04
sanych_laptopand how can I edit that list?10:04
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DBOsudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf10:04
chripherDBO: High tech can someone just give me the commands one by one10:04
DBOsudo sysv-rc-conf10:04
sanych_laptopDBO, thanks!10:05
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chripherthat page says it is not recomanded to do that and even then they post a 2 page how to10:05
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DBOchripher, "cd && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | sed 's/breezy/dapper/g' > sources.list"10:06
DBOchripher, then "sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak && sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list"10:06
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deep_Hey there. :)10:07
DBOchripher, then "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and make sure there is text in there10:07
DBOhi deep_10:07
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chripherDBO:  thanks done all now but what text line ?10:09
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deep_I need some help about Quake 3. I need the version >1.16, which dousent exist anymore. And when i try to emulate, it sais something about OpenGL.. something.10:09
DBOchripher, when you do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" does any text get printed to your terminal?10:09
deep_( i have the 1.16 in windows )10:09
DBO(probably a bit long file)_10:09
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DBOdeep_, quake3 has a native installer I believe10:10
chripher!pastebin10:10
ubotuI heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126910:10
deep_Yeah, version 1.32.10:10
deep_Not what im looking for. : /10:10
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DBOdeep_, well then I guess you need to be a little more specific =)  my crystal ball is quite broke10:12
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chripherDBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1382510:12
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DBOchripher, now just do a "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"10:12
deep_DBO: Okay. Ill  Wine-install the quake i have, and then when i start it will give me an errormessage, ill send that. ^^10:13
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chripherDBO:  is that all ? and what about the old and duplicates ?10:13
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cionhey all10:13
cionI need to reap a website into my hard disk10:14
rafcould someone help me on my soudcard?10:14
cionanyone can help me to do that?10:14
philosophuscion, try wget10:14
DBOchripher, apt takes care of all that for you, but be warned, a dist upgrade takes a looooong time10:14
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cionphilosophus it's a command u talking bout? (sorry im kinda noob)10:14
chripherI got time I got no jobb at the moment hehe10:14
scheurichripher: If you really want to upgrade to dapper I recommend you to use aptitude instead of apt-get10:15
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philosophuscion, yes. Do you know how to use the command line?10:15
DBOscheuri, why?  aptitude is just a frontend for apt-get10:15
DBOwhich is just a frontend in turn for dpkg...10:15
scheuriDBO: yes, sort of...but it takes care of dependencies better10:15
cionterminal I lnow, what are the commands to reap an entire website O___O10:15
chip42scheuri: oh really :p10:16
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philosophuscion, look at man wget. It should have something in there about link following.10:16
shadukanevery package manager in ubuntu is a frontend for the apt-get interface10:16
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bigfoot1how do i paste text inside pico?10:16
rafI have an intel i810 chipset, but I can't configure its sound card10:16
chripherscheuri: why did not say that before now it is allready runing like heller10:16
rafwhat can I do?10:16
DBOscheuri, I am fairly certain they all manage dependancies in the same manner, and the it handles dependancies better is just a crazy rumor started by my wife10:16
shadukan...raf10:16
cionphilosophus ok I'll check that, thx ;) c'ya10:16
philosophusscheuri, does aptitude do something differently with dependencies?10:16
scheurichripher: no worries...apt-get is fine,...:)10:16
shadukan i have the same and runs out of the box10:16
rafI've installed modprobe snd_intel8x0, nothing happened10:17
scheuriDBO...your wife? ah well...too bad I never met her then...;)10:17
shadukanu must use the oss module or the alsa module to enable sound in i810 mobo soundcards10:17
DBOscheuri, that makes two of us10:17
philosophuscion, take a look at the Advanced Usage toward the end.10:17
scheuriDBO: LOL...;)10:17
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chripherscheuri: hope so It look like I am geting hacked by aliens the text just run and run and run forest10:18
DBOchripher, just let apt-get go, it will be fine, if you have errors (like sometimes it will timeout from the server) just restart the dist-upgrade10:18
shadukanin my lappy i installed ubuntu and most of the hardware(not the modem) was configured out of the box10:18
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shadukani did some tweaking and the modem also worked fine10:18
chripherDBO: ah10:18
LordFalcon!upgrade10:18
ubotu[upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.10:18
crazy_penguinDBO: please could you repeat the command used for configuring the running services. than you10:18
chripherit goes in around 3000KB/s10:18
rafoss module is still installed, but I can't hear anything10:19
DBOcrazy_penguin, "sudo sysv-rc-conf"10:19
deep_"FW_StartOpenGL() - Could not load OpenGL subsystem", quake 3 sais.10:19
deep_: (10:19
chriphernice speed on does servers10:19
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crazy_penguinDBO: thx10:19
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philosophuschripher, really?10:19
shadukanraf type in a console alsaconf and see there what does it says...10:19
DBOcrazy_penguin, your welcome (thanks for being so nice =)10:19
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rafshadukan: command not found10:19
philosophuschripher, what servers are you using? I only got 1000 MB/s using a mirror on my campus.10:19
chripherphilosophus: yeah my line is 100/10 (In/out)10:20
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chripherbut 1000MB/s is more than 3000KB/s10:20
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philosophuschripher, oops, I'm tired.10:20
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chripherphilosophus: no problemas10:21
philosophuschripher, 1000MB/s would be rather impressive for the hard drives in the servers.10:21
chripherphilosophus: private line not campus10:21
shadukanjust tested the sudo update-manager -d and works fine!10:21
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rafshadukan: bash: alsaconf: command not found10:22
aftertafraf, type dpkg -l | grep alsa and pastebin what you see.10:22
chripherphilosophus: yeah but there are a isp here in sweden that givs you a line of 1gbps10:22
rafok10:22
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chripherphilosophus: for private home's10:22
Auckland_Pig1 gbps????????10:22
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rafshadukan: http://raf.pastebin.com/71311910:23
chripheryeap you heard me 1 giga bit per second in download10:23
philosophuschripher, impressive. The US is really behind in that area.10:23
chripherphilosophus: yeah us is to big10:23
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chripherThey did a massice fiber upgrade two month ago all over sweden and the all the birds ate the fiber10:25
chripherso they hade to use another type of fiber and do al over again10:25
shadukanraf i saw it10:25
williswatsonquit10:25
shadukantry10:26
shadukanlsmod | grep i81010:26
chripherbut now greenpeace is angry because the new isolation is maybe dangrous for birds10:26
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shadukani have to ask something when u say u dont hear anything when u log into gnome do u hear login sound10:26
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shadukanor u cannont hear for example mp3 files?10:26
deep_Hey. I need to enable Direct Rendering, howto? "glxinfo | grep render" sais "direct rendering: No"10:27
KismetDBO, no running X.org 7 on dapper10:27
HIGH-FREQDeep7: enalbe dri in your xorg.conf  if your vid cards permits it10:27
raflsmod | grep i810 returns nothing10:27
HIGH-FREQerrr deep_10:27
chripherdoes anyone know how to play mp3 trough windows shares without downloading them to local computer10:27
rafI have VLC, it plays mp310:28
DBOKismet, what is your problem now, I forgot already10:28
deep_HIGH-FREQ: Will check that, thx. :)10:28
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HIGH-FREQchripher: thru a samba network or other nfs10:28
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rafI can't hear nither mp3 nor cd's10:28
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chripherHIGH-FREQ: Samba i guess10:28
seraphimchripher: you can use smbfs to mount the windows-share on your linux-box10:29
HIGH-FREQchripher: yes...samba or nfs......samba seems to be the easiest i think10:29
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raflsmod | grep intel returns the modules I loaded some minutes ago, the snd_intel8x010:29
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KismetDBO, sorry... the problem is that: When i enable DRI + FGLRX or DRI + RADEON I get the machine hung up10:29
chripherYes done that but I can not paly mp3 have to copy emm to local disk to hear any sound10:29
DBOKismet, what video card?10:29
deep_HIGH-FREQ: Okay, i see that DRI is commented out. But i also have XGL/Compiz installed. XGL want it to be commented out. Does XGL work with it loaded?10:30
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seraphim/ip/share  /place/to/mount  smbfs  uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000,username=smbuser,password=smbpass 0 010:30
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HIGH-FREQxgl should work wihth dri by defualt...i believe10:30
seraphimchripher10:30
seraphimthat's the line for your /etc/fstab10:30
rafshadukan: lsmod | grep intel returns the modules I loaded some minutes ago, the snd_intel8x010:31
deep_HIGH-FREQ: Okay. Thanx for your support ^^10:31
seraphimoh. "//ip/share"#10:31
deep_:D10:31
shadukangive me a sec raf10:31
HIGH-FREQdeep_: hopefully that helped ...somewhat ;010:31
rafshadukan: lsmod | grep i810 returns nothing10:31
KismetDBO, I'm using Dapper as main line, and I have RV280 chipset that is a Radeon 925010:31
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KismetDBO, I think that is a kernel bug10:32
DBOKismet, so... dont enable DRI10:32
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KismetDBO, is what I'm doing but that's not normal should be working...10:32
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Auckland_Pigis there a Public Domain OS?10:32
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jussie{F}hello everyone10:33
Auckland_Pigrather than gpl'd10:33
FlannelAuckland_Pig: BSD?10:33
jussie{F}i have a bit of a problem.10:33
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rafshadukan: ok10:33
deep_Hey again. :)10:33
Fujitsu!ask10:33
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.10:33
deep_Didnt work. :/10:33
naliothFlannel: that is under the BSD license.  Auckland_Pig we can discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic  all the the licensing topics you wish10:33
jussie{F}i have an IBM thinkpad t30, and i would like to properly config the touchpad.10:33
DBOKismet, make sure your libgl1-mesa-dri is up to date10:34
Auckland_Pignalioth: oh thanks nalioth10:34
Fujitsujussie{F}, is there a wiki page for the laptop?10:34
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MM2why papper drake beta starts X with resolution 640x480? restarting gdm gives better resolution.10:34
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jussie{F}um. possibly. let me check10:34
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chripheryes back now10:34
scheurichripher: still online...great...;)10:35
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jussie{F}http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T3010:35
james__hello. I'm a bit new here.10:35
chripherseraphim: yeap just fixing with my windows server all apps I can not run in linux10:35
james__anyone feel like helping me out?10:36
jussie{F}mine has the ultranav touchpad10:36
shadukanjames_ first start by reading manuals10:36
mustard_gaimjames__: type out your problem and lets see :)10:36
shadukanand then start asking questions10:36
james__yep. done and done.10:36
scheurijames__: state the nature of your question and we may try our best to help you10:36
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deep_Okay, i really need to get quake 3 going. /me quake 3 nerd ;) If it dousent work in linux, then ill have to run dualboot, and.. dont want that. ^^,10:36
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chripherscheuri: yeah still here10:36
shadukandeep_ quake3 runs perfect on my machine..;)10:36
deep_shadukan: You run version 1.32? :P10:37
shadukanalso quake3 nerd gone10:37
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chripherscheuri: do you no why I can not play trough samba and have to copy all mp3 to local to hear any snound10:37
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shadukandeep_ :P nice one..i think quake is one of the games which has very good support for linux..10:38
scheurichripher: no, sorry...10:38
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deep_shadukan: Yeah, but, i need version 1.16n, or 1.11, and they dont exist on linux :O10:38
james__i have acces to a supercomputer via ssh at my uni. it has all kind of useful apps. i can ssh in from home with ssh username@blah. all goes well, I get in, but i can't run anything because i get the error: "no DISPLAY variable found w/ interactive job" and i have to admit I'm too much of a newbie to understand10:39
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deep_And i have an Quake3 disc for windows, i have wine-installed it but it complains about OpenGL.10:39
jussie{F}see, all i can find is the mouse config in the system drop down menu10:39
jussie{F}theres no touchpad specific options10:39
DBOjames__, enter the command DISPLAY=0:10:39
james__so if anyone could point me in the right direction, i'd be eternally grateful10:39
shadukandeep_ u have opengl rendering?10:40
rafshadukan: are you busy?10:40
james__DBO- once i've ssh'd in?10:40
deep_shadukan: I dunno, how can i check?10:40
DBOjames__, yes10:40
shadukani think ssh doesnt support X forwarding unless the sshd server explicity does it10:40
DBOjames__, whenever you are getting that error, you enter that after10:40
james__excellent, I'll give that a try.10:40
shadukanglxinfo | grep render10:41
DBOjames__, though, GUI apps generally dont work over SSH...10:41
james__Do you think you could explain why?10:41
shadukanin a xterm deep10:41
DBOshadukan, X forwarding is enabled by default I believe and has to be turned off10:41
mustard_gaimjames__: don't forget the colon at the end :)10:41
Godfather85hi from RUSSIA10:41
james__yeah, i know, but this is DESIGNED to run gui apps, most folks use exceed in windows10:41
shadukan...i think also..but u must have it of...as u state out correctly DBO10:42
deep_shadukan: "direct rendering: No"10:42
deep_Soo.. how do i enable10:42
deep_?10:42
deep_**10:42
shadukanmate...thats why it complains for opengl10:42
james__Thanks DBo/mustard, brb10:42
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deep_Thought so. ^^10:42
chripherDBO: do you have any solution for playning mp3 trough samba whitout copy to local machine10:42
williswatsonis there someone use pptp connect to a VPN server?????10:42
DBOchripher, you have to mount the samba share10:42
deep_But how can i enable it? trough xorg.conf?10:43
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DBO!tell chripher about samba10:43
shadukan@deep  try to find the graphics card u have10:43
chripherDBO: done that see it on desktop10:43
shadukaninstall the appropriate driver10:43
scheurichripher: are the mp3 on a linux-box with samba?10:43
DBOchripher, no no, you didnt, look at the link =)10:43
chripherokay10:43
shadukanand then tweak /etx/X11/xorg.conf to enable opengl10:43
rafplease, could someone help me about snd_intel8x0?10:43
jussie{F}cause all i really wanna do is turn off tap to click10:44
DBOchripher, scheuri has a point, if the mp3's are on a linux box, NFS is the way to go10:44
jussie{F}its driving me crazy10:44
deep_shadukan: nVidia GeForce 4, with the latest drivers. Ill google that openglthing. ^^10:44
james__Hmm. Still get errors:10:44
shadukanu installed the driver?10:44
james__[mep04jh@comp06 ~] $ DISPLAY=0:10:44
james__[mep04jh@comp06 ~] $ qrsh matlab10:44
james__error: could not get environment variable SGE_QMASTER_PORT or service "sge_qmaster"10:44
james__[mep04jh@comp06 ~] $10:44
DBOjames__, are you doing -X with your ssh command?10:44
chripherDBO: oh my god do I have to do all that10:44
deep_shadukan: Yep. All set. ^^10:45
james__umm...no10:45
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DBOhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently  <--- chripher10:45
mustard_gaimjames__: use the pastebin for pasting text btw10:45
deep_shadukan: Just the opengl-enabling that needs to be done. :)10:45
shadukanu have nvidia as driver enable..u must do that tweaking to ur xorg.conf10:45
james__k10:45
mustard_gaim!pastebin10:45
ubotu[pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126910:45
aftertafraf, so. we understand you have no sound whatsoever....  what readme did you follow?10:45
aftertaf!alsa10:45
ubotuwell, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix10:45
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aftertaf!sound10:45
ubotuHelp to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary10:45
deep_shadukan: Yeah, i know. Done that to. : )10:45
chripherDBO: I have now only used the windows share option in file manager10:46
DBOchripher, are the files being shared from a linux machine?10:46
eric_Thank you, kind Ubuntu people, for giving me such a wonderful operating system.10:46
aftertafraf, what does aplay -l show you?10:46
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intelikeyi wonder why 'fold' translates dubble spaces and tabs to single space   that's so un-cool...10:46
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shadukan@deep see: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/57248-3d-enabling.html10:46
chripherDBO: now the files is on a xpsp2 machine10:46
williswatsonis there someone use pptp connect to a VPN server?????10:47
rafaplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...10:47
rafaplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...10:47
rafsorry10:47
aftertafok raf10:47
williswatsonis there someone use pptp connect to a VPN server?????10:47
DBOchripher, just follow the instructions at the link I sent you, its pretty straightforward =)10:47
DBO!patience10:47
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.10:47
DBO!VPN10:48
ubotusomebody said vpn was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD10:48
aftertafraf, type rmmod (your module)10:48
chripherDBO: but long and I can not do any apt-get now or ? when I do upgrade to dabber10:48
aftertafraf, then type sudo modprobe (yourmodule) isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x330 dma1=1 dma2=5 irq=5 fm_port=0x38810:48
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DBOchripher, erm, yeah, lets wait for us to finish your dapper upgrade hmm?10:49
DBOchripher, btw, are you running nvidia drivers?10:49
rafaftertaf: ok10:49
chripherDBO: guess that is best10:49
aftertafer sudo rmmod ;)10:49
chripherDBO: no I got a Matrox Millenium G400 Max10:49
TheCarlhello, I am looking for an easy to use video editing program that works on linux and is compatible with MPEG files.10:49
DBOchripher, thats good, no binary blobs to worry about =)  youre upgrade will by relatively happy then10:50
chripherDBO: that would be a shame to do so on such an old nice card10:50
Auckland_PigDBO: did you search "video" in synaptic package manager?10:50
rafaftertaf: ready, I've removed th module and reloaded it10:50
Auckland_Pigsorry DBO not for you...10:50
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Auckland_PigTheCarl: did you search "video" in synaptic package manager?10:50
chripherDBO: but I want to be able to run Half life later so I have to fix the drivers fore my G40010:51
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TheCarlno, thanks for the advise.10:51
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chripherDBO: is there a way to play Half life without wine ?10:51
DBOchripher, ok... well, one crisis at a time10:51
DBOchripher, no10:51
rafaftertaf: aplay -l still returns "no soundcards found..."10:52
scheurichripher: it might be possible to play it with cedega, but that is not free (as in beer)10:52
variantTheCarl: there is'nt one10:52
TheCarlthere isn't10:52
variantTheCarl: not a Free Software one anyway afaik10:52
variantyse, there isn't10:52
chripherscheuri: I hate not free stuff in the linux world10:52
variant:P10:52
chip42chripher: cedega does it too, but imho it does not do half-life nearly as well... if it doesn't use directx, there is no reason to use cedega10:53
DBOchripher, dont bother with cedega, just dual-boot for games =)10:53
TheCarlso there is no video editing software on linux that can edit MPEGs?10:53
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scheurichripher: well, I appriciate that such things exists, it is mostly professional software though...I mean...we always have the choice...but gaming lacks quite on linux, still...that is rue10:53
chripherscheuri: use opengl no need of directx10:53
variantTheCarl: yes but mostly it's garbage10:53
aftertafraf, did you type in the whole long line?10:54
jussieif someone could please help me with this touchpad problem i would be forever grateful. i cant get anything to work10:54
variantTheCarl: I have not checked for a few months though so mabyt here is some now10:54
rafaftertaf: yes10:54
TheCarlcan you please tell me about 1 that nearly isn't garbage?10:54
TheCarlI am quite desperate10:54
variantTheCarl: freshmeat.net is actualy showing a couple now10:54
aftertafok. then, if aplay shows nothing, maybe it isnt your soundcard...?10:54
variantdunno if they are up to much though10:54
chripherscheuri: my gfx card does twice as many frames in opengl then D3D10:55
TheCarlsweet10:55
chripherhate d3d10:55
TheCarlI'll check it, thanks.10:55
scheuri:)10:55
chriphermm10:55
aftertafraf. you see that? ^^10:56
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chripherI have to go and take a shower and eat some lunch se you later guys10:56
aftertafraf, can you pastebin the output of lspci?10:56
scheuricu10:56
rafaftertaf: where?10:56
aftertaf!pastebin10:56
uboturumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126910:56
rafaftertaf: ok10:56
jussieokay. well thanks for the help (or lack thereof)10:57
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scheuriimpatient we are....*shakes head*10:58
aftertaflol10:58
DBOwhat was his problem?10:58
rafaftertaf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1382710:58
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DBOtouchpad...10:58
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aftertafrockwell 431010:59
aftertafhmmm10:59
raf:|10:59
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jc-dentonwhere e can i get good png or svgs of the ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu logo?11:01
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variantTheCarl: http://kdenlive.sourceforge.net/index.php this looks moderatly good11:02
ColD_7anybody installed realplayer here?11:02
aftertafraf, is it a soundcard combined with a conexant modem?11:02
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variantColD_7: no, can't see why anyone would want to either tbh11:03
rafaftertaf: no. the modem is separated11:03
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rafaftertaf: windows detects my soundcard as Riptide11:04
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ColD_7can we have an embedded rhythmbox in firefox?11:04
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aftertafraf, try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=96692111:04
rafaftertaf: ok11:05
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tim_ubuntuhey guys, having some problems here. using dapper and did last update yeaster day. booted notebook (nx6125 hp) this morning and came to the login screen, entered my infos, login screen disappears but nothing more happens. anyone a clue? i'm in console mode now, gnome stopped workign after login11:06
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aftertaftim_ubuntu, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop | start11:06
tim_ubuntusec, will try11:07
aftertafonce stop once start ;)11:07
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intelikeyactually /etc/init.d/gdm stop piped to start....11:07
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LoCusFis weird11:08
cafehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1382811:08
cafehow to insert table beside my dropdown menu11:08
aftertafintelikey, yeah, i didnt mean it as a literal command, just azy... :/11:09
scheuricafe: you are probably in the wrong channel...11:09
rafaftertaf: when I run alsamixer, it returns "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"11:09
aftertaftim_ubuntu, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start11:09
aftertafraf, like the guy on the web page?11:09
aftertafhmm.11:09
tim_ubuntuaftertaf: thank, seems so work, i'll try a reboot now11:09
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rafaftertaf: yes11:10
aftertafraf, try having sound in root... sudo vlc.11:10
rafaftertaf: ok11:10
dliraf, cat /proc/asound11:10
intelikeyis 400 lines considered long for a bash script ?11:10
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hyphenatedintelikey: yeah, kinda11:11
DBOintelikey, yeah, thats getting up there11:11
hyphenatedintelikey: wc -l /etc/init.d/* | sort -n11:11
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rafaftertaf: I've tried sudo vlc, and I can't hear anything11:12
aftertafok so not that.11:12
aftertafi think ubuntu cannot identify your sound card. there arent any drivers for it, alsa anyway.11:12
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tim_ubuntuaftertaf: thinks worked out, thx!11:13
aftertafseems there are oss drivers, but i dont know how to install them.11:13
variantaftertaf: whats the soundcard?11:13
rafdli: cat: /proc/asound: Is a directory11:13
dliraf, sorry, cat /proc/asound/cards11:14
aftertaflol you jinxed me.11:14
aftertafmy sound has crashed now too.11:14
rafdli: --- no soundcards --- :'(11:14
variantraf: what soundcard do you have?11:14
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dliraf, okay, "sudo lspci|grep -i audio"11:14
rafvariant: intel i810 chipset11:15
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variantraf: that should be well supported11:15
raflspci say that is a rockwell11:15
dliraf, "sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0"11:15
variantraf: thats your voice/datafax modem11:15
aftertafits a rockwell.11:15
Auckland_Pighow stable is dapper for a home machine?11:15
monteiromy dapper doesnt detect my hp psc printer, i go to printing and try to add, but nothing is detected, anyone knows ?11:15
Auckland_Pigshould i worry before upgrading dapper on my home machine11:15
rafdli: 0000:01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 431011:15
aftertafhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13827 <- raf(s souundcard11:16
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dliraf, after modprobe, "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"11:16
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NeoCicakcant wait for dapper drake to be released11:16
rafdli: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils: Warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1163: No soundcards found...'.11:17
aftertafNeoCicak, i couldnt wait ;)11:17
raf:'(11:17
scheuriaftertaf: inpatient we are...;)11:17
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aftertafhehe11:17
scheuriimpatien11:17
jc-dentoni have trouble with gimp in dapper11:17
NeoCicakis anyone using it now?11:17
aftertafive been dapper since october11:17
jc-dentonit crashes and uses too much memory11:17
NeoCicakoh ok11:17
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aftertafraf, what modeule are you modprobing?11:18
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aftertafsnd_i810 ?11:18
dliraf, read you "lspci" to find your sound card first? do you know it? try lshw also11:18
rafaftertaf: snd:intel8x011:18
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aftertafyour soundcard isnt intel8x011:19
aftertafits a rockwell 831011:19
rafaftertaf: snd_intel8x011:19
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rafdli:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13827 <- raf's lspci11:19
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aftertafand try lshw  too ;)11:19
shadukanraf i have a simple question u have a different card aka a soundblaster and the onboard cause if such is the case one must be disabled11:19
dliraf, install lshw, and try it also11:19
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shadukanfrom bios11:20
scheuribye all11:20
aftertafbye scheuri  :)11:20
Auckland_Pigi'm upgrading to dapper.... so see u after the upgrade.... hopefully :)11:20
intelikeyis there a good reason that user should not be in root group ?11:21
teroedniYeah11:21
rafdli: http://raf.pastebin.com/713180 <- lshw output11:21
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dliintelikey, any reason why do you put one in root group?11:22
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rafshadukan: I don't have two soundcards, it's only one11:22
intelikeyread access to more files11:22
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aftertafits not i8x0 raf... so that modprobe wont help.... unlesss you also have an onboard soundcard ;)11:23
rafaftertaf: :O really???11:23
aftertafafaik its not i8x011:23
serjhi all11:23
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rafaftertaf: so, what is?11:24
aftertafi dont know. dont seem to have an alsa driver11:24
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rafaftertaf: mmm, what can I do?11:25
dliraf, it may not be supported11:25
rafaftertaf: my PC is a HP Pavilion 8731C11:25
aftertafare you sure its not a combined modem/soundcard?11:25
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aftertafhonest? i'd go buy a cheap soundblaster11:26
aftertafwhere you at?11:26
jc-dentonhttp://www.ubuntu.com/include/kubuntulogo2.png11:26
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jc-dentoni need a similar logo to this but for ubuntu and xubuntu11:26
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rafaftertaf: now I'm not sure about it11:27
dliraf: http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00581.html11:27
rafaftertaf: I see modem in one place, and soundcard in another place11:27
dliraf: check hardware support before you place your order :(11:27
jc-dentoncome on11:27
jc-dentonotherwise i'll have to make a poster about suse linux11:28
rafdli: :'(11:29
dliraf, rockwell refuses to release any documentation. so, don't buy anything from rockwell11:29
rafgod, I hate them11:29
aftertafsound cards not expensive.11:29
rafyes, I've read the post11:29
aftertafbye all.... work calls.11:30
shadukanguys i am going now...must go to the uni...to do a lesson of Content Distrubution...cya later11:30
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jc-dentoni neeed good ubuntu logos!11:30
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aftertafgood luck raf, and buy a new card, you can for cheap and it'll be a lot easier. some things are not possible due to closed source n stuff... :/11:30
jc-dentonotherwise i'll not make propaganda11:30
rafall, thanks!!!!!11:30
aftertafno pb.11:31
aftertafbye all....11:31
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hastesaverjc-denton, http://art.ubuntu.com/11:32
dlijc-denton, stop repeating, please, I don't care about your propaganda in any way11:32
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jc-dentonlool11:33
TheCarlhello, can someone tell me what LinuxTV is?11:33
rafdli: thank you for help me11:34
jc-dentonsry but google pictures did not work well for ubuntu logo11:34
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rafI'm sleepy, bye all11:34
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KillerKiwi2006>;) http://people.warp.es/~isaac/blog/index.php/ubuntu-and-msn-logos-1811:40
KillerKiwi2006irony - http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2155546/samsung-admits-copying-handset-icons11:40
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D3ahi11:43
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jackeyehi what do you suggest i do to try to fix a hard drive?11:49
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jackeyewith input output errors11:50
zcat[1] RMA11:50
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zcat[1] burn and boot ultimate boot CD, run the OEM diagnostics..11:50
jackeyezcat[1] : what is oem diagnostics?11:51
jackeyezcat[1] : i dont have warrenty on it anymore11:51
zcat[1] test tools provided by drive manufacturer11:51
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zcat[1] Oh well.. at least run the diagnostics and find out if it's a hardware problem.11:52
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jackeyezcat[1] : what else could it be?11:52
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chripherI am back in Dapper11:53
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chripherDBO: you here11:53
zcat[1] ummm. not sure.11:53
jackeyezcat[1] : filesystem ?11:54
zcat[1] for IO errors I wouldn't think so.11:54
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dentisthey... i'm trying to compile something.. i've apt-get'd make and gcc... but its saying no such file on a bunch of header files11:55
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dentistany idea which i need to use?11:55
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Ngdentist: have you installed the "build-essential" package?11:56
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miriamitaly?11:56
HymnToLife!it11:56
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:56
dentistthats the one11:56
zcat[1] !b-e11:56
ubotuor if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.11:56
zcat[1] ohh.. someone already said that11:57
dentistok now its just saying... wap54g-log.c:52:18: error: popt.h: No such file or directory11:57
zcat[1] follow the README, it might mention stuff you need..11:58
dentistit doesnt. lol... trying to find what package popt is from11:58
AkrameWhat's the answer to " Uubuntu is debian with new themes and new name"11:58
Akrame(hi all)11:58
HymnToLife!debian11:58
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/11:58
dlidentist, install the popt package, "apt-cache search popt"11:58
samuli"it's better than debian"11:58
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zcat[1] package or sources? popt.h .. ?11:59
chriphercan wine interact with firefox ?11:59
zcat[1] chripher: interact how?12:00
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linux_galorechripher: yes12:00
zcat[1] you can run windows firefox in wine (I just did that so I can run shockwave plugin)12:00
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linux_galorethink he means gets firefox to use wine as a plugin option12:00
zcat[1] ahhhh.. that's the default isn't it? if you tell firefox to open an exe after you download it, wine handles it.12:01
linux_galoreyou can tell firefox to use a wine script when it sees set file types12:01
linux_galoreIve got flash 8 working in forefox thanks to wine12:02
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linux_galorefirefox*12:02
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zcat[1] mine does anyhow, and I'm fairly sure I never configured anything for it..12:02
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zcat[1] yeah, firefox with latest flash, shockwave and java plugins. I think there's even some activex stuff in there.. winetools set up all kinds os stuff for me12:03
zcat[1] *of12:03
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zcat[1] but I STILL can't get MSIE to run :(12:04
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linux_galorewhats needed is a script to download all the bits and configure firefox so they can get shockwave and flash 8 up and going12:04
linux_galorezcat[1] : theres a script that installs IE12:05
philosophuslinux_galore, easyubuntu might do that.12:05
linux_galoreies4linux  I think its called12:05
zcat[1] other than winetools which I already have?12:05
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linux_galorezcat[1] : naaw it downloads IE and sets it up under wine for you in a single step12:06
chripherdoes anyone here know amout roboform ?12:06
Nglinux_galore: all you have to do is download the IE setup.exe and run it with wine, no need for a script :)12:06
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linux_galoreNg: I run codweavers, even easier still12:07
chripherDBO: are you here12:07
DBOyes12:07
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bigfoot1how can i check if i have a certain package (avahi-daemon) installed?12:08
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HymnToLifebigfoot1> sarch fot it in Synaptic ?12:08
bigfoot1is there a way to check without using synaptic?12:09
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Ngdpkg -l avahi-daemon12:10
Ngif the first two characters are "ii" then it's installed12:10
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bigfoot1un <-- is what i got. this mean it's uninstalled, yes?12:11
chriphershould I use alsa or esound or something else ?12:11
g0dchild!alsa12:11
ubotu[alsa]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix12:11
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juliuxis here a zaurus user?12:12
g0dchildhi, i've installed amarok-1.3.8- bu when i play a track i cant here any sounds12:13
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g0dchildi have xine, arts and gstreamer engines installed12:13
g0dchildnone of them worKs :S12:13
enriquehola a todos12:13
enriquealgun espaol por aqui?12:13
samuligodchild, can you hear sounds in kaffeine for example?12:13
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g0dchildsamuli, havent tried yet, wait...let u know in  asec12:14
g0dchildyeah12:14
g0dchildcan hear it12:14
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g0dchildanother thing i noticed, tried playing a movie on console using -vo svga- i can see the picture in a decent resolutio- but once more, no sound..12:15
g0dchildI think i might have screwed up after all12:15
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zcat[1] Ng: every time I run the setup program (from MS or the one I have on a CD or the one winetools uses) it says it can't install all components. This on three different versions of Wine, standard, bleeding edge repos from source-o-matic, and another repo mentioned on the wine.sourceforget page..12:16
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Ngzcat[1] : strange. unfortunately I'm not on an Intel platform at the moment, so I can't test it, but as I understand it IE6 should work fine in any recent wine12:17
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Ngzcat[1] : it certainly works fine in Codeweavers Crossover WINE, but that's non-free12:17
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ex-parrothello everyone... I just upgraded a server-only install to dapper and my network interface is no longer working... any suggestions anyone12:18
ex-parrot?12:18
ex-parrotI'm getting a "no such device" message... I did change the NIC right before upgrading but breezy recognised this fine and was working12:18
Ngex-parrot: does ifconfig -a show the interface?12:18
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ex-parrotno it doesn't Ng12:18
zcat[1] ex-parrot: I had the same problem.. but I can't help. I gave up and did a fresh install.12:19
ex-parrotoh it's showing an eth212:19
ex-parrotI'm rather loath to re-install as I finally got postfix working12:19
ex-parrotbut I needed to upgrade to support my new dual CPU motherboard properly12:19
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ex-parrotwhy would it jump right in and give it eth2?12:20
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ex-parrotthen insist it still doesn't exist?12:20
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Ngthat is quite odd12:21
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adam_hi friends12:21
ex-parrotjust ifrenaming eth2 to eth0 seems to have fixed it12:21
ex-parrotfor now anyway12:21
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brentMURDER12:21
brentdeath12:21
brentblood12:21
brentblaaagggh12:21
ex-parrotahem?12:22
ajmitch_how odd12:22
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MM2there is chkconfig in redhat, which adds initscript to correspondent rcN.d directory. What is equivivalent in Ubuntu?12:22
ex-parrotNg, it would seem I still had the old NIC's MAC address in iftab12:22
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Ngah12:23
Ng:)12:23
dliex-parrot, why not use udev rules to fix eth names?12:23
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ex-parrotdli, don't know about udev... is it new in dapper?12:23
Alsaumm how do i reinstall my vga driver12:23
dliex-parrot, http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2005_12_01_dev-loki_archive.html12:24
NgMM2: update-rc.d or BUM if you want a graphical tool12:24
adam_have installed my skystar2 DVB-t pci card , wich application need i to watch DVB-t on Ubuntu 5.10 ?12:24
ex-parrotthanks dli I'll take a look12:24
Alsaubuntu already has it detected but it cant quite get the driver details12:24
dliex-parrot, udev is supported since kernel 2.6.8, iirc12:24
MM2Ng: ty12:24
Alsa!ati12:24
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358912:24
ex-parrotnevermind dli, fixing iftab seems to have solved it12:25
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dliex-parrot, ifrename is not a real solution, udev is12:25
ex-parrotdli, how so? I'm not overly fussed so long as it works...12:26
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adam_have installed my skystar2 DVB-t pci card , wich application need i to watch DVB-t on Ubuntu 5.10 ? or how to install xine ?12:27
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avulaunchpad tells me, my wiki name is Avu, but when I try to logon to the wiki with Avu and my launchpad password it does not work. Am I missing something?12:28
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dbzdeathhow do i downgrade a package?12:33
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Alsa!smb12:35
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Alsa12:35
Alsa!samba12:35
uboturumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html12:35
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adam_need help, how to configure DVB-t card on UBUNTU 5.10, the kernel modules are allready loaded (b2c2 - airstar 2), but how to wach tv wit kaffeine ?12:39
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Jowiwhat do I need in order to load pdf or postscript files in Gimp? I get the error "plugin could not load image"12:40
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adam_adam_,12:40
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Jowiah, wait. pdf's seem to work now. but not .ps. hmmm... i will find a workaround12:41
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orbinJowi: who gives images in pdf/ps format anyway?12:44
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Ap4ch3How do I get the special key for turning the wireless minipci card on/off on my dell laptop? I get this from the kernel log : ' kernel: [4414803.513000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e008 <keycode>' to make it known'12:45
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dpcHello, I have just installed ubuntu, and was wondering if anyone could help me with a question I have about the default version of Evolution (2.4.1 on Breezy Badger).  I was wondering if there was a way to upgrade it to a different version, because 2.4.1 seems to have a bug talking to some IMAP servers.  I know for a fact that 2.2.2 (on Fedora core 4) and 2.6.0 (on Fedore core 5) work very well with our IMAP servers.  Is there a convenient way to upgrade to 2.612:46
dpc.0 or retrograde to 2.2.2 under Ubuntu (maybe via different repositories)?12:46
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HymnToLifedpc> try upgrading to Dapper12:47
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dpcIs there a procedure I can follow to to the upgrade to Dapper Drake?12:48
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HymnToLife!upgrde12:48
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife12:48
HymnToLife!upgrade12:48
ubotuwell, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.12:48
pianoboy3333Can anyone help me fix something? http://piano.juicemedia.tv/photos/messed1.jpg that's my boot screen, how do I get it to look right?12:49
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HymnToLifepianoboy3333> now loading :D12:49
HymnToLifedialup sucks12:49
pianoboy3333ok12:49
pianoboy3333yep :)12:50
DrNickRivierais there some way to "merge" several mounted hard drives, like mounting them all into the same directory?12:50
valehruhow can open rar files from linux?  i.e. there are a group of combined rar files, eg. file.01, file.02. file.03.12:50
HymnToLife!tell DrNickRiviera about raid12:50
valehruHow can i unrar all of those?12:50
HymnToLifepianoboy3333> it seems like our boot screen is using a resolution too high for your monitor12:51
pianoboy3333...?12:51
KillerKiwi2006DrNickRiviera: Do you want the hard drives to copy each other or just expand as if they are one giant drive12:51
chripherhave anyone here used synce12:51
pianoboy3333HymnToLife: My monitor is using 1280x1024312:51
dpcHymnToLife, I understand that upgrading to Dapper Drake may also give me a newere version of Evolution.  So is there any information (such as a web page) that give the procedure for newly installed users of Breezy Badger to upgrade to Dapper Drake?12:51
pianoboy3333*1280x102412:51
DrNickRivierathanks KillerKiwi, will have a look at  it12:51
Ngvalehru: install rar (should be in universe or multiverse) and do "rar x file.XX" where XX is the highest number (though it probably works with any of them)12:51
HymnToLifedpc> didn't you read what ubotu told you12:52
DrNickRivieradidn't know one could do stuff like that with raid :/12:52
HymnToLife!tell dpc about upgrade12:52
valehruthx12:52
DrNickRivierai want them to expand as one giant drive12:52
KillerKiwi2006DrNickRiviera: RAID is the drives mirroring each other and is good for hard drive redundancy12:52
HymnToLifepianoboy3333> those kind of things are typical of a too high resolution, check your settings12:52
pianoboy3333HymnToLife: settings where?12:53
DrNickRivieraah, i know that, thought one of the raid modes might do what i want12:53
DrNickRivieranever came to grips with all the different ones there area12:53
DrNickRiviera*are12:53
HymnToLifepianoboy3333> does it look OK after boot ?12:53
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pianoboy3333HymnToLife: yes, it's fine12:53
KillerKiwi2006DrNickRiviera: If you just want one gaint dirve I think UnionFS does that12:53
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pianoboy3333HymnToLife: I was just wondering if there was a way to not look at an ugly booting and shutdown screen....12:54
HymnToLifeDrNickRiviera> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID :)12:54
HymnToLifepianoboy3333> turn of your monitor :)12:54
NgKillerKiwi2006: RAID doesn't have to be mirroring, it has multiple modes12:54
HymnToLifeoff*12:54
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valehrutrying to run sudo apt-get install rar but i get the following error: E: Package rar has no installation candidate12:54
pianoboy3333HymnToLife: ... Even if I got rid of the boot screen, the plain text is still distorted12:54
NgDrNickRiviera: sounds like you might want to look at LVM12:54
KillerKiwi2006Ng12:54
HymnToLifemirroring is RAID-1, RAID-0 does what you seem to want12:55
orbinvalehru: rar is in multiverse12:55
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KillerKiwi2006Ng: really ive ony ever used it for drive redundancy12:55
orbinvalehru: have you enabled it?12:55
valehruwas sure that i did12:55
Nameeaterhow can I get ubuntu to use more than 60hz refresh at 1280? I have tried the fixres thing but no luck12:55
HymnToLifepianoboy3333> definitely a resoution problem12:55
HymnToLife!tell pianoboy3333 about fixres12:55
NgKillerKiwi2006: that's fair enough, but it does also have what are called striping modes (and, indeed, mirroring&striping modes) so you can join multiple disks together12:55
pianoboy3333I'll take a look at that12:55
NgKillerKiwi2006: an ideal combination is to have both, so you get speed and redundancy :)12:55
valehrugetting a lot of errors when I start synaptic12:55
orbinNameeater: pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:56
KillerKiwi2006Ng: cool12:56
valehruorbin, mind if I dump in a PM to you?12:56
HymnToLifeNg> mirroring is RAID-1, stripping is RAID-012:56
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dpcThanks HymnToLife, I was searching, and found the procedure while we were chatting.  So I will give that a try.12:56
valehruyou might have more of an idead than me12:56
NgHymnToLife: I know :)12:56
HymnToLifeRAID-0+1 is cool :p12:56
pianoboy3333HymnToLife: what's a CRT monitor?12:56
HymnToLifepianoboy3333> Cathodic Ray Tube12:56
HymnToLifenon-LCD :p12:57
pianoboy3333oh12:57
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HymnToLifewht you seem to have, I don't think such problem occur on LCDs12:57
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valehruanyone know how to install rar on a 64 bit system12:58
valehru?12:58
Nameeaterorbin: http://name.pastebin.com/71330212:58
pvd2006Is Dapper Drake going to be more reponsive than breezy badger, for example the delay in loading windows in badger.12:58
Ngvalehru: ah, you may well have to download the official rar tarball and install it manually12:58
valehruahh k...12:58
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pianoboy3333HymnToLife: no, it's because I use a DVI cable instead of a VGA from my gfx card to my computer, it looks fine on my VGA cable.12:58
Ngvalehru: it should work fine though because the amd64 ubuntu has 32bit compatibility libraries12:59
valehruNg, so would that be the reason it wouldnt install through synaptic12:59
orbinNameeater: run this pls: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange12:59
Ngvalehru: yep12:59
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Nameeatermonitorrange: 30-69, 50-12001:00
pianoboy3333HymnToLife: do you know what do to with dvi cables?01:00
orbinNameeater: gksudo 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'01:00
HymnToLifepianoboy3333> nope, sorry, never used them01:00
HymnToLifewhy why not use the VGA ?01:00
orbinNameeater: ctrl+f and find "horizsync"01:00
orbinNameeater: then change the values there to 30-6901:01
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pianoboy3333HymnToLife: DVI has a better look01:01
orbinNameeater: 50-120 should be the vertrefresh values01:01
HymnToLifehmm01:01
HymnToLife!dvi01:01
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife01:01
HymnToLifepianoboy3333> try searching !forums or !google01:01
Nameeaterorbin: ok thanks I will try that now01:02
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simsalabimhi01:06
simsalabimanyone here_01:06
kbrooksi'd like to start selling at my school. i have 44 cents ATM01:07
simsalabimGuys i needd ur help do install xmms fast01:07
simsalabimcan uhelp me?01:07
simsalabimim kinda new in linux01:07
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orbinsimsalabim: sys > admin >synaptic01:08
kbrooksi have a platypus and a bear (ALL fake) and a mini car01:08
orbinsimsalabim: search for xmss, then grab it01:08
Jowiorbin: sorry, was temporary away. companies use alot of pdf's.01:08
kbrookswhat is the most ideal price to sell these three things?01:08
simsalabimi dont need to go to terminal?01:08
kbrooksi want to raise money to donate to someone01:09
orbinsimsalabim: if you mean do you have to compile stuff, then no, not usually01:09
simsalabimok how i install it01:09
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orbinubotu: tell simsalabim about synaptic01:09
simsalabimi was clicking that install shortcut01:10
simsalabimbut nothing hapend01:10
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orbininstall shortcut?01:11
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orbinclick on search in the toolbar, enter xmms, then double-click the xmms package when found, then click on apply01:11
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g0dchildcan someone tell me 'bout alsa?01:13
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g0dchild!alsa01:14
ubotuI heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix01:14
hulkhello anybody that is uptodate oin ivtv driver that can tell my why my huapage 150 isnt working ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1383001:14
SkeletonixHi ....  when I restart new kernel  . I saw Kernel panic- not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-bloc . I use as .config /boot/config2.6.15-22-386 and remove from kernel only Use PCI DMA as default(I have old HDD) and rekompile kernel.01:15
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dpcThanks, HymnToLife, I am proceeding w/ Dapper upgrade (per ubotu).  Need to reboot shortly.  Bye01:16
sliipySkeletonix: probably you forgot the initrd.. or if you have compiled the kernel yourself, you're missing drivers for you ide controller01:16
NgSkeletonix: did you make an initrd?01:16
sliipy(say y to them instead of m)01:16
Skeletonixno I didn't make initrd01:16
hulkanybody pondering a fix for my problem ?01:17
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hulkno thoughts ?01:17
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simsalabimok big tnx for help01:18
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NgSkeletonix: I would have thought that you could just specify a kernel command line parameter to the default ubuntu kernel to make it disable dma01:20
NgSkeletonix: I think "ide=nodma" will do the trick01:20
SkeletonixNg:...thanx!01:21
SkeletonixI try it01:21
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FiReStArTeRHey, could someone help me out, I am getting this error when booting - /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root does not exist dropping to a shell01:22
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SkeletonixNg: Wher eI must write "ide=nodma" ..to grub menu?01:22
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pvd2006after you make changes to gnome desktop like turning off nautilis and setting a different windows manager how can you reset gnome?01:22
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speedsixHi all01:23
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NgSkeletonix: the /boot/grub/menu.lst probably has a line like "kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda2" for each of the kernels - just add " ide=nodma" to the end01:23
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FiReStArTeRDoes no one know how to fix the error I am getting? (/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root does not exist dropping to a shell)01:24
speedsixI have added a NFS share to my fstab which mounts fine but takes ages on boot at the 'mounting remote filesystems' part, any ideas?01:24
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hulktry sudo /etc/init.d/<what u what to tinker with> restart/stop/start01:24
Ngspeedsix: might be DNS? does the NFS server have a hosts file entry for your machine?01:24
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hulkthat was @ pvd200601:24
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Ngpvd2006: log out and back in, or /etc/init.d/gdm restart as hulk suggested :)01:25
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FiReStArTeRhulk you have any ideas on the problem I am having?01:26
hulkhe i cam her for help myself :)01:26
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g0dchildhi Ng - i am having some trble with alsa- whenever I try to play anything, i am getting a msg saying alsa's busy01:26
g0dchildit happened after i followedd the instructions on how to use multiple audio apps simultaneously at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206301:27
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pvd2006wow01:27
speedsixg0dchild what apps are you trying?01:27
hulkhuapage 150 isnt working ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13830 any ideas why firware wont load ?01:27
pvd2006That is dumb, I tweaked out gnome and now its runs slower, lol. I switched to use atlanta windows manager and turned off nautilus01:27
g0dchildamarok, kaffeine- so far..01:27
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g0dchildyes, xmms as well.01:28
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speedsixhulk you may be putting the firmware in the wrong dir, friend had the same problem01:28
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g0dchildi've already stopped alsa-daemon from /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop - no results01:28
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pvd2006It took firefox like 7-8 seconds to load up on restart of gnome01:28
speedsixand all the apps are set to use alsa?01:28
hulkhum oki whats the right dir the :) ill go check on that ...01:28
speedsixI can't remember sorry, I know the dir it listed was the wrong one01:29
speedsix I have added a NFS share to my fstab which mounts fine but takes ages on boot at the 'mounting remote filesystems' part, any ideas?01:29
pvd2006That time it took closer to 10 seconds to load firefox, I wonder if this is caused by switching the windows manager01:29
valehruwhen I try and run gnomebaker I keep getting the following error: Segmentation fault01:29
valehruany ideas?01:29
hulkoh yeah well i puts it wrong at first and i moved it to /lib/modules/ i hope thats is correct ?01:30
valehruits the same for azereuz01:30
valehruAzureus01:30
pvd2006how can you reset gnome desktop defaults?01:30
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speedsixpvd2006 there's a folder in your home dir somewhere with all the gnome settings01:31
gnomefreakpvd2006: you can try removing the gnomeconfig file and restarting gnome01:31
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pvd2006gnomefreak, is that ok to remove th file?01:32
gnomefreakits would be ~/.gnome something01:32
gnomefreakpvd2006: it regenerates itself when you restart01:32
gnomefreaklog back in01:32
pvd2006I guess it would be in /etc/ or ~/?01:32
gnomefreak~/.01:32
gnomefreaki just cant remember name of file01:33
gnomefreakits in your home dir iirc01:33
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Herb-anyone here know whether the root pw for the VMware version of Ubuntu is available?01:34
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pvd2006gnonefreak, I see a directory called .gnome/01:35
pvd2006gnomefreak*01:35
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SkeletonixNg: Thanx!! It works!!!!!01:35
speedsixHerb- root password?01:35
Herb-speedsix: yes the root password01:36
pvd2006Gnomefreak, I also have a .gnome2/ and .gnome_private/01:36
killefizHerb-: ubuntu doesn't have a root password by default01:36
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killefizyou're supposed to use sudo01:36
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Herb-I'm test-driving Ubuntu via its VMware "VMX Appliance"01:36
cworkgnomefreak, is it this that you want? cwork@ubuntu:~/.gconf/desktop$    (oneko is in the channel)01:37
Herb-when I started it, it told me there were 16 updates but needed the root password to apply them01:37
steveireWhen I install a package with adept, and then remove it, the supplementary packages are not removed with it.01:37
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speedsixHerb- you need to put your own user password in01:37
g0dchildcan someone please help me to configure sound...gak!01:38
g0dchildI am not able to hear any sounds now :(01:38
steveirein installed tipptrainer ( 4 packages were required), and then removed it. but it only removed the tipptrainer package and the data. Two other wxWidget packages were not removed01:38
valehruok...so I found out that gnomebaker doesnt work out of the box in amd64 however it does in z8601:38
valehrux8601:39
steveireIs there a setting to remove packages with no packages relying on them?01:39
speedsixg0dchild the one on the ubuntu forum HOWTO should work for you?01:39
Herb-I realize it's possible the VMware Ubuntu might be locked down01:39
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kbrooksBBL01:39
speedsixHerb- where did you get the ubuntu disc from?01:39
g0dchildspeedsix, thats the problem- after i tried that I am not able to hear any sounds01:39
speedsixOh01:39
NgSkeletonix: excellent :)01:40
g0dchildfollowed it right down to the dot01:40
pvd2006I found .gconf/01:40
steveireno ideas?01:40
steveireI guess it doesn't matter if you've got hd space to throw away...01:41
SkeletonixI have printer on ubuntu and I shared it on winXP ..but it doesn't work. In acces.log is this :01:41
Skeletonix192.168.0.2 - - [12/May/2006:13:34:33 +0200]  "POST /printers/Stylus-C64 HTTP/1.1" 200 569 Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported01:41
Skeletonixlocalhost - - [12/May/2006:13:34:48 +0200]  "POST / HTTP/1.1" 400 0 - -01:41
Skeletonixand in error. log is :01:41
SkeletonixE [12/May/2006:13:25:17 +0200]  cupsdCloseClient: Error in the push function.01:41
SkeletonixE [12/May/2006:13:27:56 +0200]  Creating missing directory "/var/run/cups/certs"01:41
speedsixThere is a command to find out the device numbers for your soundcard, may need to change it in your conf. Have you got a ling to the unbuntu guide for me?01:41
Skeletonixwhere could be a problem ..pleas ?01:41
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g0dchildyeah01:42
g0dchildits here01:42
g0dchild!alsa01:42
ubotuit has been said that alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix01:42
Herb-ahh I'm not using a disk, I'm using the VMware version found at http://cdimage/ubuntu.com/Ubuntu-5.10.zip01:42
gnomefreak!ubuntuguide01:42
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.01:42
speedsixI used this conf iirc http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=happy+alsa01:43
g0dchild!dmix01:43
ubotuI heard dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin01:43
eXistenZhow can i download dapper?01:43
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speedsixalsa did drive me nuts though, can be a total pain01:44
DBO!upgrade01:44
ubotufrom memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.01:44
speedsixSound in linux is a mess01:44
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DBOspeedsix, its getting better, it was a real mess 4 or 5 years ago01:45
Nameeaterorbin: it didnt fix it :( it still insists on using 60hz at 128001:45
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steveireOften when I install packages from adet, the new packages do not appear in the application menu.01:45
steveireIs that normal?01:45
DBOsteveire, yes01:46
speedsiximo everything should use alsa and ditch the rest01:46
steveireis it reconfigurable?01:46
DBOsteveire, just add them in with smeg01:46
pvd2006what was the command to restart gnome again?01:46
DBOCTRL + ALT + Backspace01:46
Nameeatersudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart01:47
steveiresmeg?01:47
DBO!smeg01:47
ubotuAlacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/01:47
orbinNameeater: yes, did you do that?01:47
DBOsteveire, just run smeg in a terminal01:47
Nameeaterorbin: yup01:47
eXistenZgnomefreak, are you using dapper01:48
orbinNameeater: what monitor do you have?01:49
steveirecommand not found01:50
steveireit's cool, anyway. I'll use alacarte01:50
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DBOsteveire, same thing =P01:50
Nameeaterorbin: IBM E7401:51
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maskd_hey guys, just a quick question, i just installed apache and php, but whenever i try to make a new php file as my regular user i keep getting the message:01:51
maskd_Warning:  Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0. I know it's a permissions issue and when i set it to be read  my everyone its ok, but is there anyway that i can make the files viewable without chmoding all the time?01:51
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hulkwhat is the files in /lib/modules for ?01:52
hulkcan i remove them ?01:52
Nameeaterorbin: hmm maybe my monitor cant do more than 60hz at 1280..01:52
orbinNameeater: that's a possibility :)01:53
orbinactually, i should have asked that ifirst01:53
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NameeaterI'm sure I had it on more in wondows..01:53
pvdalright, that is better, few..01:53
pvdphew*01:53
Nameeaterwill have to check!01:53
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pvdwhat is a good and fast windows manager for gnome that wont cause errors?01:54
orbinhulk: no01:54
azathothcan anyone explain why firefox is trying to download ebayISAPI.dll instead of doing something with it? any way to fix it?01:54
linux_galoreazathoth: thats a windows file01:55
maskd_linux_galore: ebay uses a dll for all its web stuff01:55
linux_galoreazathoth: so Firefox hasnt got a clue what to do with it so it defaults to a save mode01:55
Tiduslinux_galore: but the website uses that lol01:55
azathothlinux_galore: so what, you can't go on ebay in linux?01:55
Delicate_Shadowhi guys01:56
maskd_azathoth: you can01:56
linux_galoreazathoth: I go on ebay all the time never had that problem01:56
Delicate_Shadowcan someone tell me if Ubuntu supports Araic Language ?01:56
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pvdI just went to ebay and looked around, it works fine for me.01:57
linux_galoreIve been buying stuff on ebay now for a good 3 years with mozilla/firefox01:57
linux_galoreI suspect he is trying to access a windows only service01:58
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Tiduspersonally, i use opera01:58
maskd_firefox sometimes randomly does stuff like that for me01:58
maskd_just restart firefox01:58
thunder00hello.. is there a nice tui application that changes date/time on ubuntu ?01:58
maskd_see if it fixes it01:58
linux_galoreor he is visiting a phishing site and that files a virus01:58
Tidusfirefox is cool, but opera is faster on this machine than FF01:58
maskd_thunder00: right click on the date in the top left corner and go to adjust date and time01:59
linux_galorethunder00: right click on the clock01:59
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Kane666hey01:59
linux_galoreopera and firefox are pretty much the same for me01:59
pvd so I've heard that dapper drake is suppose to be faster than breezy badger if you get it up and running right, is that true?02:00
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gnomefreakpvd: gnome is faster02:00
linux_galorepvd yeah its allot faster02:00
linux_galorespecifically the gnome stuff02:00
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pvdlinux_galore than is good because I know a lot of delay in opening windows on breezy02:00
pvdthat*02:00
linux_galorepvd the delay is usually due to a lack of resources or your system is just slow02:01
samulignome is faster in dapper. I disagree.02:01
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samuliIt's really slow, on the other hand. kde is flying.02:01
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linux_galoreyeah I find the file manager in kde still snots on nautilus for speed02:02
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orbinlinux_galore: dapper stable enough for desktop use yet?02:02
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pvdlinux_galore, I should be fine, I have a amd 1500 athlon xp, 1gig of 400mhz memory02:02
linux_galoreorbin: well it works for me02:02
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Tidusit's funny... konqueror's always been faster than naut for me02:03
linux_galorepvd yeah should be fine02:03
gnomefreakorbin: i would wait the 2 weeks to be honest02:03
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linux_galorepvd turn some of the file preview options of in nautilus, bet it gets way faster02:03
orbingnomefreak: 2 weeks?  i thought release was june 6?02:04
pvdlinux_galore, I turned off nautilus as a desktop manager02:04
gnomefreakorbin: june 102:04
pvdits a little faster02:04
Amaranthhulk: /lib/modules is kernel modules (late)02:04
Amaranthhulk: removing them == bad news02:04
linux_galoreyeah they keep banging on about nautilus but to be honest its total shite02:04
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linux_galoregnome really needs a new file manager02:05
pvdI dont really like the way KDE looks, it has too much uneccesary stuff, but I guess you can turn all that off.02:05
gnomefreaklinux_galore: use egnome than02:05
pvdegnome?02:05
pvdhmmm02:05
gnomefreake16 file manager with gnome02:06
Kane666n00b alert..!! whats the diffrence between gnome and KDE ?02:06
g0dchildgnomefreak, do i need to recompile kernel after upgrading alsa?02:06
linux_galoregnomefreak: e17 now02:06
g0dchildalsa!02:06
gnomefreaklinux_galore: e17 is _not_ in ther repos02:06
g0dchild!alsa02:06
pvdhmmm02:06
ubotualsa is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix02:06
g0dchildheh02:06
samulipvd, same for me.02:06
gnomefreaks/ther/the02:06
linux_galoregnomefreak: is for me lol02:06
avuI like nautilus :(02:06
samuliI'm using kde now and trying to figure out how to make it more gnomish.02:06
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pvdsamuli are you using it because its faster?02:07
samulipvd, yeah.02:07
Herb-speedsix: I think I found how to initialize  " sudo"02:07
gnomefreaklinux_galore: you added a 3rd party repo and if you installed it when on login screen choose egnome ;)02:07
orbinKane666: different desktop environments02:07
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samuliIt's a _lot_ faster on my xp 1700+ 256mb box.02:07
pvdsamuli your running dapper drake though right02:07
pvd?02:07
maricalguien para ablar02:07
samuliyeah.02:07
gnomefreak!es02:07
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:07
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maricyeahh02:07
Kane666orbin: so does that mean, its basicly a diffrent GUI or am i heading in the wrong direction ? lol02:07
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linux_galoregnomefreak: right now Im playing with the cvs version of XFCE502:08
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marichello02:08
samuliI installed ubuntu and then the kde-core package and I still got tons of stuff in the menus, lol.02:08
gnomefreaklinux_galore: playing with fire i see ;)02:08
samuliI imagine how the kubuntu-desktop menus must look like.02:08
linux_galoregnomefreak: yeah things break, but dam its fast, it like gnome with no lag02:08
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Tidussamuli: i got a dual amd athlon mp2100 with 1.25gb ram02:08
Herb-ahh yes success :D02:08
samuliTidus, well, good for you mate :)02:09
HumpBackHello, I'm getting a PANCI: Circular definition when booting dapper. It was ok a few days ago but after some upgrade i cannot boot the system02:09
orbinKane666: yes you could say that02:09
Kane666orbin: thanks for the info ;)02:09
orbinKane666: i suggest you install both and try them02:09
linux_galoregnomefreak: desktop icons are pretty cool02:09
orbinKane666: or at least look at screenshots02:09
gnomefreakeh im not big on desktop icons ;)02:09
pvdgnome freak so I guess I would just sudo apt-get install egnome02:09
orbinKane666: there's also xfce, fluxbox, enlightenment....02:09
gnomefreakthey remind me of windoze02:09
Kane666orbin: ill just look at screenshots.. i cant be botherd playing around with the system. Im not prepared to fix it lol02:09
gnomefreakpvd: no you need to install enlightenment02:10
orbinKane666: well, to install kde, you just grab one "metapackage"02:10
orbinKane666: then you log out, and kde will be available to log into02:10
pvdGnomefreak, I see. should I install the breezy badger version?02:10
Kane666orbin: whats hat?02:10
Kane666*that02:10
samuliorbin, that doesn't mean it couldn't break things up :)02:10
Kane666orbin: oh so i select what i want to log in to..02:10
TidusKane666: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:10
gnomefreakpvd: yeah nothing wrong with that version02:11
mustard5Kane666, install with aptitude rather than apt-get02:11
gnomefreakKane666: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop please02:11
TidusKane666: it can coincide with the standard 'ubuntu-desktop'02:11
samulikane666, use aptitude instead of apt-get02:11
orbinsamuli: true :)02:11
Kane666how big is the file.. im on dial-up02:11
samulithat way you can remove it as easily.02:11
samulihaha :)02:11
mustard5Kane666, its not small :)02:11
gnomefreakKane666: using aptitude this way if you dont like it aptitude will get rid of most if not all package with it02:11
samulikane, try sudo aptitude install kde-core then perhaps.02:12
BlueEagletidus: "coexist"?02:12
gnomefreakwhen you remove it02:12
mustard5Kane666, you could probably leave it overnight02:12
Mintyam reading all chat as a newbie running ubuntu can I just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:12
linux_galoreinstalled SuSE 10.1 today, not bad, I like the package manager UI02:12
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gnomefreaksamuli: why would he want kde-core?02:12
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gnomefreakthat leaves him to install things needed by hand02:12
samulignomefreak, because he's on dial-up and wants to see what kde is like.02:12
Kane666mustard: nah i cant do that coz then i have to leave the other computer on (network server) and my dad wont like that lol02:12
mustard5Minty, it workes better with aptitude instead of apt-get, because that makes it easier to uninstall02:12
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gnomefreakeh dial up :(02:12
mustard5Kane666,02:12
linux_galoretheres a kde-lite thing in the works02:13
mustard5Kane666, k02:13
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samulikubuntu-desktop is something like 150-200mb worth of packages and kde-core is something like 40mb02:13
pvdNow installing enlightment,well see how this works02:13
Mintynwbie quetio whats apptitude02:13
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mustard5Kane666, the way I did it was to go to my brothers place and download kubuntu install CD, then I added the Kubuntu CD to my sources02:13
ArtistAgentHello All02:13
linux_galorepvd you should try get e17, its snots on e1602:14
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Kane666mustard5: yeh good idea.. i might give it a try next time im at a broadband terminal ;)02:14
pvdhmm02:14
pvdI already installed it02:14
pvdlol02:14
valehruIs there anyway to install an RPM in ubuntu?02:14
dot618lol+102:14
pvdill just try it real quick to see how it works02:14
samulie17 is buggy like hell.02:14
linux_galorepvd e16 is a bit slow and missing heaps of stuff thats in e1702:14
avuvalehru: you can convert the rpm to a deb with alien02:14
mustard5valehru, you can try using the alien command..02:14
gnomefreakvalehru: you rather not use rpms in ubuntu02:15
pvdnow since I installed englightment02:15
dot618is e17 out?02:15
pvdI just open up a different session02:15
pvd?02:15
linux_galoresamuli: been running e17 in Vector Linux now for 6 months02:15
samulidot, nope :)02:15
gnomefreakvalehru: what are you wanting to install?02:15
valehruhave a version of maya that only has rpms02:15
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dot618so bad02:15
linux_galoresamuli: its been very stable for the last 9 weeks02:15
samulilinux_galore, I have tried it from time to time with daily cvs-builds, and most of it still doesn't work.-02:15
gnomefreak!alien02:15
ubotuit has been said that alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/02:15
Tidusmy main machine's running gnome 2.14 on gentoo02:15
gnomefreak^^^ valehru02:15
hulkhow can u tell what u running dapper breezy unt so wiether ?02:16
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valehruthx02:16
gnomefreakhulk: lsb_release -a02:16
samulibut if it's that much better by now I really want to try it out.02:16
hulkthanx!02:16
gnomefreakhulk: yw02:16
NullifiedHi guys, How do i start SSH on linux02:16
pvdHow do you enable enlightment now that it is installed?02:16
TidusNullified: client or server?02:16
samulipvd, logout and log in.02:16
pvdoh ok, thats what I thought02:17
Nullifiedserver Tidus02:17
pvdthanks, brb02:17
gnomefreakpvd: log out and on login screen click sessions than choose enlightenment02:17
linux_galorepvd you select it in the login screen02:17
samuliand remember to check session to enlightenment.02:17
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asranielcould someone open that file http://www.fryx.ch/Asraniel/schule/RandomTable.java and tell me if he sees the special characters in the first comment in the code, right at the beginning02:17
hulkand how u check what kernel u using ?02:17
TidusNullified: on ubuntu, 'sudo aptitude install openssh-server' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start'02:17
avuhulk: uname -a02:17
Nullifiedthanks tidus02:17
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hulkthanx :)02:17
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pvd2006Hmm, when I logged out and I saw the login screen I got a weird scrambled image up at the top of my screen?02:18
pvd2006Ive had this problem before when I installed kde02:18
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pvd2006anyways, the point is, I can't select a different session since it pushes it out of the screen.02:19
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bomberohi02:20
dot618lo02:20
asranielcould someone open that file http://www.fryx.ch/Asraniel/schule/RandomTable.java and tell me if he sees the special characters in the first comment in the code, right at the beginning02:20
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bomberohave some problems with and kaffeine, dmesg says:  b2c2-flexcop: B2C2 FlexcopII/II(b)/III digital TV receiver chip loaded successfully02:21
bombero, but kaffeine: no DVB devices found, what do i wrong ?02:21
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hulkhum i need a bit of advice ... i am trying to make ivtv work (it doesnt) i was using 0.4.0 since that is recomendein in most howtos however i read on ivtvdriver.org that u prolly have to upgrade to 0.4.x if u get a newer card ... but i cant figure out quite wich one to use i am using breezy and (Linux Media 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux02:22
hulk) please someone advice me ?02:22
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linux_galorebombero: kaffeine is a media player not a front end to a video card02:23
linux_galorebombero: point kaffeine at a file and it will play it02:23
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hulkshuld i use 0.4.5 for kernels <= 2.5.15 ? is that safe ?02:24
bomberolinux_galore, and for what has kaffeine "Go!" menu and DVB-Item ?02:24
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pvd2006now, that was just weird. I logged out and started enlightment session and it was a blue screen with no options to use menus or anything.02:25
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pvd2006blue/grey screen02:25
Tiduspvd, enlightenment's menu system is bound to the mouse buttons02:25
Tidusleft click on the desktop for the user menu02:25
pvd2006the default theme, is horrible btw, lol02:26
pvd2006thanks02:26
pvd2006anyways, I am just trying to run gnome with the enlightment file manager02:26
pvd2006Gnomefreak, are you still here?02:26
gnomefreakyep02:27
Tiduspvd2006: right click for the config menu, or mash the mouse wheel in to get to a menu that combines the two02:27
Tiduspvd2006: as for a light file manager, the rox-filer works quite well02:27
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pvd2006Tidus, how do setup rox-filer as default02:28
Nullifiedany command line based IRC clients?02:28
void^irssi02:28
gnomefreakNullified: irssi,bitchx02:28
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gnomefreakamong alot of others02:28
Tiduspvd2006: that i don't know02:28
Nullifiedapt-get irssi ?02:28
gnomefreakNullified: nope its already installed02:28
gnomefreakNullified: commmand line type irssi02:29
Nullifiedawsome!02:29
pvd2006brb02:29
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Nullifiedwhen it says change channel with ^X is that ctrl x?02:29
Tidusyep02:30
gnomefreakNullified: yep02:30
Tidusor you can hit ALT+<the number of the window>02:30
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gnomefreakNullified: ctrl+n will change windows for you02:30
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Nullifiedright, Thanks guys, now im off to work, to listen to people about their Internet problems and then...chat on IRC instead of talking to them...02:31
thoreauputicIRSSI^Nullified: or use ctrl + P ctrl + n02:31
Nullifiedthanks all02:31
void^irc as root users may get shot every now and then02:31
dot618oh02:32
dot618what's root?02:32
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gnomefreak!root02:32
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.02:32
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thoreauputicdot618: the admin user ( "super user"02:32
linux_galorebombero: try kdetv -> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1160202:32
dot618really?02:32
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dot618someone told me in the bsd, root is not so powerful02:33
bomberolinux_galore, ok, thanx02:33
thoreauputicdot618: they told you wrong :)02:33
dot618o.o02:33
pvd2006lol02:33
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Tiduson unix period, applications are set up so that you should never need root access to run them02:33
pvd2006what is more powerful than root?02:33
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dot618uid 0?02:33
Tidusyou should only go root if osmething's broke and you gotta fix it02:33
thoreauputicdot618: yup02:33
Tidusand on linux, UID 0 = root02:33
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dot618hehe02:34
linux_galoredot618: root is root02:34
pvd2006so there is a even higher access on bsd than root?02:34
pvd2006that doesnt make sense02:34
dot618god?02:34
linux_galorealthough you can get kernel patched to restrict root02:34
rabi need help installing a perl module02:34
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thoreauputicpvd2006: nothing is higher than root on *nix02:34
linux_galorepatches*02:34
pvd2006that what I thought, lol02:35
pvd2006I was about to say02:35
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dot618god > root02:35
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thoreauputicdot618: only just ;)02:35
dot618hahaha02:35
dot618or... NSA>02:35
linux_galorethere are a few tools that one can setup so if root access is gained very little can be done that will stuff up the system02:35
dot618NSA/CIA something02:35
dot618NSA > god > root02:36
Tiduslinux_galore: like grsec2 or selinux02:36
pvd2006god = root:)02:36
dot618no, god ~= NSA02:36
thoreauputicdot618: nah, you can't have evil > god ;-)02:36
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dot618NSA is evil02:36
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thoreauputicdot618: that was my point indeed02:36
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pvd2006BTW I wonder what OS NASA uses02:37
linux_galoreTidus: yeah theres another one that does that, been around for a while too also has a built IDS, LIDS!  bingo thats it02:37
pvd2006im guessing some type of unix02:37
gymsmokehey, all02:37
dot618if you install their hardware crypto cpu02:37
dot618"hacking in the cpu" hehehehe02:37
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linux_galoreLIDS = Linux Intrussion Detection System  even has a kernel patch to define when a remote root login will be banned ie they try shutdown the webserver the remote machine get banned02:38
pvd2006too bad  software for pcs isnt written as well as programs like NASA, with barely any bugs:)02:38
pvd2006for NASA*02:38
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gymsmokei'm running 5.10 as a server, and yesterday for some reason, for about 3 or 4 minutes, mail, apache, dns, and ssh seemed to be "unavailable", but i could still ftp into the box from the commandline.  I got the NOC to reboot the box, but couldn't find any traces in the logs of errant activity... could this have been a hardware glitch of some kind ?02:39
linux_galoreLinux Intrussion Detection System(LIDS)restricts the uncontrolled use of the root login on a system thus protecting mission critical services.02:39
dot618linux_galore, except the NSA?02:39
linux_galoredot618: nothing to do with the NSA02:39
thoreauputicpvd2006: http://flightlinux.gsfc.nasa.gov/02:39
rabcan someone help me install a perl module02:39
dot618linux_galore, are you sure? (openssl/ssh)02:40
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dot618linux_galore, +des02:40
linux_galoredot618: LIDS was created by a group of Australians02:40
dot618hahaha02:40
thoreauputicdot618: openssh is a BSD thing ( used in linux as well of course)02:40
dot618USA asked the prison at au also02:40
Tidusi wish my router would hurry up and restart DNSMasq.02:41
linux_galorethe sel stuff has no IDS, but lids does02:41
Tidustemporary failures in name resolutions kinda bites.02:41
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linux_galoresel is more a system hardening hack were LIDS is a pro active security tool02:41
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dot618which is the best IDS what you know?02:42
dot618nobody knows?02:43
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linux_galoredot618: LIDS is pretty good but you have to path your kernel02:43
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dot618mm02:43
linux_galorepatch*02:43
adityaexcude me02:43
jendaHow can I ssh connect with a live CD session?02:44
dot618can I patch the bsd kernel with LIDS?02:44
dot618:(02:44
adityaany body can apt-get via wireless network?02:44
linux_galorejenda: what Live CD02:44
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pequatretesting02:44
pequatrehello02:44
jendalinux_galore: UBuntu, both sessions02:45
dot618ack02:45
thoreauputicjenda: if you mean another session connecting to the live CD, you need to install openssh server on the live session - the other way is not a problem02:45
adityalive cd is a cd to run ubuntu without installing them02:45
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jendathoreauputic: OK - won't it be too much trouble to install that on the live session?02:45
linux_galorejenda: usually its   ssh  joebloggs@192.168.2.whatever02:45
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pequatrewassup guys ?02:45
dot618nothing02:45
thoreauputicjenda: no - jsut sudo apt-get install openssh-server02:45
thoreauputicjenda: you can install with apt on the live CD02:46
Doati followed the guide to make firestarter startup automatically when logging in as a normal user but when i do 'sudo firestarter' after modifying /etc/sudoers i get this error: (firestarter:11617): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:02:46
pequatrekewl. actually i'm testing my being behind a proxy (SOCKS5). seems ok. cheers :)02:46
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dot618is SOCKS still alive?02:46
dot618o.o02:46
linux_galorethoreauputic: yeah but you dont need the ssh server the client is already there02:46
jendathoreauputic: OK thanks - it's already downloading - I just wasn't sure the Live CD manages installing SW, since it has no HDD...02:46
thoreauputicDoat: you don't need to do that - firestarter runs on boot, you just don't see the GUI02:47
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dot618NAT > SOCKS02:47
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thoreauputiclinux_galore: that's why I said "the other way isn't a problem"02:47
Doatthoreauputic, oh? it does that by default?02:47
linux_galorejenda: you trying to login the the machine running the Live CD or login to another machine from the one running the Live CD02:47
thoreauputicDoat: look at /etc/init.d/firestarter :)02:47
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dot618lol02:47
thoreauputicDoat: the firestarter GUI is just for admin etc02:48
jendalinux_galore: never mind - it should work now. I'm trying to connect from an installed session to a live one.02:48
linux_galorejenda: yeah need to install the server, runs in ram on the virtual disk02:48
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Doatthoreauputic, how come 'ps aux | grep firestarter' only shows 'grep firestarter' then?02:49
jendathanks, linux_galore, thoreauputic02:49
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thoreauputicDoat: firestarter is just an iptables configuration tool02:49
Enchanter i just removed win xp from my hda2. i had fedora core 5 on hda1. but now when i reboot it says "error loading operating system" can this be fixed?02:49
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Doatthoreauputic, ok.02:50
Doatthanks02:50
thoreauputicDoat: if you do an online test of your firewall, you'll see that it is working already02:50
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linux_galoreDoat: firestarter isnt the firewall, Linux has a firewall built in, firestarter is just a lazy config/admin tool for the Linux built in firewall02:50
thoreauputiclinux_galore: rather a good one IMO :)02:51
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pvd2006is there a way to get gnome to run without the desktop, as in just like a screen with nothing on it but if you want to run a program you can press alt + f2 to run a command?02:51
linux_galorethoreauputic: kmyfirewall is far more extensive02:51
Doatyep. i get it now02:51
jendathoreauputic: but how is it done with logging in et al? What username and password should I use?02:51
thoreauputicpvd2006: erm, you really want just X for that02:51
pvd2006Thorauputic02:52
pvd2006I see02:52
pvd2006how would you run X by it self02:52
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thoreauputicjenda: ah, that I don't know - unless you make a new user on the live CD session02:52
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jendathoreauputic: and is that advisable? Seems weird...02:53
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thoreauputicjenda: the default user is ubuntu, but I don't think it has a password..02:53
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thoreauputicjenda: making a new user isn't a risk02:53
thoreauputicjenda: sudo adduser jenda02:53
dot618jenda, do you know how ssh works?02:54
jendahmm, OK02:54
jendadot618: only the basics02:54
rabcan someone help me install a perl module02:54
dot618jenda, do you have the signtures?02:54
jendaof what?02:54
dot618jenda, both of them?02:54
BlueEaglerab: sudo aptitude install perl-modulename02:54
BlueEaglerab: in most cases.02:54
rabI did it02:54
dot618jenda, machines02:55
BlueEaglerab: for more spesific help we'll need to know _which_ perl module you need installed.02:55
rabBlueEagle,but i recieve errors trying to use it02:55
linux_galorejenda: if you have kde installed you can use konqueror to access ssh, just type  fish://192.168.you.know.the.rest02:55
rabBlueEagle, NET::IRC02:55
jendadot618: err... i have access to both PCs, if I can get them that way.02:55
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dot618jenda, :(02:56
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linux_galorejenda: or even type in konqueror  fish://james-bond@192.2.whatever02:56
jendadot618: sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. I just installed openssh-server on the LiveCD - don't tell me there's something I should know before that?02:57
BlueEaglerab: "Welcome to Net::IRC, a work in progress. First intended to be a quick tool for writing an IRC script in Perl, Net::IRC has grown into a comprehensive Perl implementation of the IRC protocol (RFC 1459), developed by several members of the EFnet IRC channel #perl, and maintained in channel #net-irc."02:57
dot618jenda, do you know how to generate a key?02:57
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BlueEaglerab: Since this is a "work in progress" I don't think it's in the repos. Have a look at http://search.cpan.org/~jeek/Net-IRC-0.73/IRC.pm02:57
g0dchildare there any packages for xmms?02:57
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g0dchild!xmms02:57
ubotuI heard xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)02:57
jendaWhat key? No, I probably don't. dot618, I never needed to for communication between 2 installed Ubuntus02:57
jendassh communication.02:58
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rabBlueEagle, http://24.154.232.113:8008/error/02:58
linux_galorexmms is gettting a bit crusty these days02:58
thoreauputicjenda: you can use passwords - keys are an extra thing (convenient and secure, but not required)02:58
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thoreauputic!info beep-media-player02:59
ubotubeep-media-player: (Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 3588 kB02:59
garyI'm having some big problems trying to install mplayer.  I get 3 dependency errors on: libfaad2-0, liblame0 and libxvidcore4.  All of which it says they are not installable.  Any ideas how I get around this?02:59
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pvd2006gary, I have a guide that works well03:00
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thoreauputicgary:  all the deps shoud be OK if yu have universe and multiverse03:00
mustard5gary, do you have universe and multiverse enabled?03:00
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garythoreauputic: I have both I think, I'll just check03:00
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linux_galoregary: ?? you using apt-get or are you just trying to install the mplayer package you downloaded03:00
garyapt-get03:00
thoreauputicgary: and of course don't forget to update03:01
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pvd2006gary, step by step guide on getting mplayer installed, but its for the source code version not binary.03:01
linux_galoregary: yeah need to add universe and multi03:01
garyyes, using both uni and multi03:01
garyeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe multiverse03:01
thoreauputic!info mplayer-58603:01
garydeb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe03:01
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB03:01
mustard5gary, run sudo apt-get update ?03:01
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garyYep, done that03:01
linux_galoregary: I just installed the libs then built mplayer from source03:01
mustard5gary, its a mystery :)03:01
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garyhmm03:01
pvd2006building mplayer from source is a lot better I think, it seems to work a lot better that way.03:02
linux_galoregary: less hassle03:02
garyI have security.ubuntu.com - is that right?03:02
garyoh right03:02
rabBlueEagle, http://24.154.232.113:8008/error/03:02
garyI'll try that then03:02
garythanks03:02
pvd2006gary, I have a guide03:02
garyoh yes03:02
garyThat'd be useful03:02
mustard5gary, actually that line is not enough for universe and multiverse03:02
garywhere is it03:02
garyI have deb-src too03:02
rabBlueEagle, Its in the repos andi compiled it from source03:02
pvd2006gary, http://johnvansickle.com/mplayer is the one I used.03:02
thoreauputic!repos03:02
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:02
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mustard5gary, the second line you posted is missing multiverse too03:03
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boscoThe_DaVinci_Code_Unabridged_mp3_audio_book_(Dan_Brown).rar     i downloaded this file now how do i unzip it or "UNRAR IT"03:04
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linux_galorealthough I never use mplayer anymore I just use kaffeine03:04
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NoUse!tell bosco about rar03:04
garyyay03:04
garyI got it working03:04
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garymustard5: I think it was because I had only: .... breezy universe on the first lines03:04
linux_galorebosco: need to install unrar03:04
pvd2006thats good:)03:04
garybut ont he second I had both universe and multiverse03:04
thoreauputicbosco: whoever put an mp3 in a rar is brain dead - install unrar-nonfree03:05
mustard5gary, yep03:05
boscolol03:05
garyNow I can watch videos in work without people calling it a "Mickey Mouse OS"03:05
boscothoreauputic, i relize that not my prob03:05
pvd2006well I got one .txt file in a .rar before03:05
pvd2006:)03:05
mustard5gary, hehe03:05
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thoreauputicbosco: :)03:05
Tidusgary: lol03:05
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boscolol03:05
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garyI enjoyed the moment watching one of them re-format an xp machine, they actually booted kubuntu and asked for my help mounting the drives :D03:06
timelessi'm looking for a way to browse a specific debian repository03:06
thoreauputicpvd2006: at least that makes more sense, since text is very compressable03:06
linux_galoretimeless: just use a browser03:06
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timelessi understand that there's a packages or sources gz file, but i was hoping there'd be some tool that would let me pick a repository and show it in some more human readbale format03:06
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thoreauputictimeless: don't use debian repos with ubuntu unless you like breaking things03:07
linux_galoretimeless: of use apt-cache03:07
boscothoreauputic, so how do i UNZIP it "UNRAR IT"03:07
linux_galorebosco: unrar filename.rar03:07
thoreauputicbosco: "unrar" if I recall correctly03:07
timelessthoreauputic: i kind of absolutely need various pacakges which are only available from certain repositories03:07
thoreauputictimeless: such as?03:07
timelessand i'm willing to deal w/ broken ubuntu03:07
boscothoreauputic, unrar doesnt work that is what i tried the first time03:08
linux_galoreor just add unrar to fileroller03:08
thoreauputictimeless: oh OK - have fun :)03:08
timelessthoreauputic: corporate internal binaries/sources03:08
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thoreauputicbosco: unrar-nonfree is the package I think03:08
timelesssomeone must have decided .debs were a better way of going than something else03:08
linux_galorebosco: type  file  filename.rar03:08
timelessso, the documentation i found mentioned Contents.gz and Sources.gz03:08
timelessis that right?03:08
linux_galorebosco: should tell you what file type it really is03:08
pvd2006how do you enable anti-aliasing on fonts in KDE?03:09
boscolinux_galore, it is a .RAR file03:09
linux_galorebosco: just type the first three characters of the filename then hit tab it will auto complete the name for you03:09
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boscolinux_galore, it is .RAR03:10
linux_galorebosco: well use unrar then, always works for me03:10
NoUse!rar03:10
ubotuI heard rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression03:10
boscolinux_galore, i have used unar before and for some reason it is not working for m e03:10
thoreauputicbosco: did you install unrar-nonfree as I suggested twice ?03:10
chripher!flash03:10
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:10
boscothoreauputic, synaptic03:11
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thoreauputicbosco: the standard unrar sometimes doesn't do the job03:11
Mintyin xchat how do I get all the text in the same colour except mine03:11
thoreauputic!info unrar-nonfree03:11
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB03:11
coz_new dapper usplash freaked me tred how tos to change it now have no usplash any suggestions03:11
boscothoreauputic,  i installed all i need to trust me03:11
linux_galoretheres also an official binary unrar one for rar files03:12
thoreauputicbosco: and the "file" command outputs what?  " file yourfile.rar" ?03:12
linux_galoremade by the same people who created the rar compression tool03:12
linux_galorefor Linux03:12
boscoa bunch of help stuff like i didnt type it is right like stuff like -a how to do this03:13
boscowhen you dont type in all the argument03:13
boscos03:13
boscoto your command03:13
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NoUsebosco you can just use the archive manager in gnome03:13
thoreauputicbosco: jsut type  file yourfile.rar03:13
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boscoNoUse,  if i still used gnome i would be in good shape i use E1703:14
sj`hi guys, I am using breezy, i got a wireless card today which uses the atheros chipset, dmesg and lspci list the crd as functioning without any problems, however the lights are not on on the card. I'm using the madwifi drivers. Any ideas what could be wrong?03:14
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linux_galoretheres another rar one called  norar03:14
thoreauputic!wifi03:15
ubotuI heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto03:15
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boscolinux_galore,  0k then how do i unrar that one03:15
sj`thnx03:15
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linux_galorebosco: I usually just avoid downloading rar file there usually done by idiots who runs windows and dont realise there wasting everyones time by trying to compress a file thats already compressed03:16
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boscolinux_galore, i relize that i am not the dumby here i am just not used to .RAR files and when i have used them before i have no prob lol   (:03:17
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Mintyis it easy to update xchat as i have 2005 version ?03:18
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linux_galorebosco: well I usually just tell fileroller to use unrar when I click on any file that has the rar extension03:18
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h_how to install Chinese characters?03:19
Seantaterh_: I think you can just choose a different font03:19
NoUsebosco install xarchiver, its a nice light-weight GUI for rar03:19
linux_galorebosco: when it asks what to use to open a rar file when you click on it just tell it to use fileroller, when file roller opens just tell it to use unrar, make sure the settings are saved as you do it03:19
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Seantaterh_: Ithought dsome fonts had them -- they hacve everything else03:19
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h_im Chinese,sorry03:20
linux_galorebosco: so the next time you click on a rar folder it does everything automatically03:20
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visik7h_: but have u choose chinese when Installing ?03:21
linux_galorefile sorry not folder03:21
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h_yes ,i have.03:21
g0dchildHi, i cant load xine-lib on amarok03:21
garyOk, another problem. Trying to execute realplayer and get this error:03:21
gary/usr/bin/realplayer: line 5: exec: /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay: cannot execute: No such file or directory03:21
g0dchildreinstalling xinelib1c2 doesnt solve the problem03:21
g0dchildcan anyone please help?03:21
_jasongary: how did you install it?03:21
linux_galoregary: means realplayer isnt installed03:22
thoreauputicg0dchild: insatll amarok-xine and select the engine in amarok03:22
thoreauputic*install03:22
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linux_galoretype ls -l /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay   bet it shows nothing03:22
garyhmmm03:22
alvarotremulous: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open sh <--- In AMD64, what do I have to do?03:22
g0dchildthoreauputic, amarok-xine is already the newest version.03:22
h_may i update the kernel from 5.04 to 5.10 online?please03:23
gary_jason: I can't remember to be honest.  I have the .bin file here but I'm having an error when executing it - dependency on libstdc++.so.503:23
thoreauputicg0dchild: then go to the configuration for amarok and select the xine engine, restart amarok03:23
_jasonubotu: tell gary about realplayer03:23
NoUse!tell h_ about upgrade03:23
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g0dchildthoreauputic, it might be an amarok bug- let me test kaffeine03:24
garythanks _jason03:24
linux_galoregary: you need to install the old version of libstddc++03:24
thoreauputicg0dchild: works here (tm)03:24
thoreauputicg0dchild: is this dapper?03:24
linux_galoregary: its an old package03:24
g0dchildno, breezy03:24
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thoreauputicg0dchild: well, amarok-xine works here on breezy03:25
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h_is it right like this: apt-get install linux-686 ?03:25
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linux_galoregary: lots of binary apps have that problem they dont keep the things up_to_date so you need to install the old gcc dependencies03:25
g0dchildI tried to install from source too- yeah- not an easy one i suppose03:25
thoreauputich_: add sudo at the beginning, but yes03:25
mustard5h_, 5.04 and 5.10 are different versions of ubuntu not kernel versions03:25
thoreauputicg0dchild: why did you do that?03:25
h_i login as rot ,thanks03:26
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thoreauputich_: heh - I hope "rot" was a typo ;)03:26
h_so,how do i update ?must i use the CD?03:26
g0dchildthoreauputic, since i installed the new release of amarok (1.3.8), i thought i might need to install xinelibs from source03:26
garylinux_galore: well I instlled libstdc++5, and re-ran the .bin file and it installed, but when trying to execuite it I still receive the same errors03:26
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g0dchildthoreauputic, no good?03:26
h_sorry,root is correct03:27
linux_galoregary: I have about 3 versions of libstdc++ installed to I can run some old binary only commercial apps03:27
linux_galores/to/so/03:27
thoreauputicg0dchild: ah, you have a library mismatch I guess then03:27
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_jasongary: use the deb03:27
thoreauputicg0dchild: did it compile?03:27
chripher!flsh03:27
ubotuchripher: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:27
chripher!flash03:27
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:27
h_how to join the channel of chinese chat on ubuntu03:28
g0dchildthoreauputic, yeah- according to dpkg it did.03:28
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thoreauputicg0dchild: umm - you used dpkg-buildpackage or something ?03:28
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nullifie1Hey all!03:28
g0dchildno- from apt-get source03:28
nullifie1Thanks who ever helped me today getting IRSSI to work03:28
garyyay, it works03:29
garyalmost too easy03:29
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garyNo tears, no broken keyboard and no headache03:29
thoreauputicg0dchild: well, I don't know - did you run sudo apt-get build-dep first ?03:29
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frosty_badfishanyone familiar with changin keyboad layout ?03:29
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IRChi03:29
g0dchildthoreauputic, i had no idea. :(03:29
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thoreauputicg0dchild: oh03:30
g0dchildcan i restore it to my old setttings?03:30
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idPa qs please03:30
g0dchildthoreauputic, -all i did was: apt-get source libxine1c203:30
mustard5!zh03:30
ubotuFor support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.03:30
piernikI've compiled  acpi module  from sources  sourceforge/acpi4asus I do ls -l and I see the file but when I try modeprobe I get  FATAL: Module  ...not found. What's wrong?!03:30
thoreauputicg0dchild: sudo apt-get install apt-howto03:30
specteihow do i get extra modules for my kernel in ubuntu dapper03:30
specteii'm looking specifically for 3con 3c57503:30
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specteiand the xfs filesystem03:30
frosty_badfishi've tried kbdconfig but that only works without the xserver03:30
mustard5h_, try #ubuntu-zh03:30
idPhow can I know servers running and to stop them ?03:30
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idPanyone knows ?03:30
linux_galorepiernik: did you rebuilt the kernel03:31
thoreauputicg0dchild: you should have run sudo apt-get build-dep amarok at least03:31
specteialso how can i find the default ubuntu kernel .config file03:31
johannes__hi room03:31
specteias it doesn't have /proc/config.gz enabled03:31
thoreauputicg0dchild: you are doing it the hard way :)03:31
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johannes__03:31
johannes__ can so help me? i tried google without getting smarter03:31
johannes__03:31
johannes__ i wanna copy konquerors bookmark.xml file to firefox (it uses a file called bookmark.html) . firefox and konqui should have same bookmarks03:31
thoreauputicjohannes__: DON'T paste03:32
johannes__yes03:32
idPis there a gui app that enables me to now which servers running on my box and gives the ability to stop them03:32
johannes__sorry03:32
linux_galorejohannes__: why should they ??03:32
piernikthe funny thing is I have asus acpi suport buil in kernel I've noticed after compiling03:32
specteiidP, not that i'm aware of03:32
specteiidP, look at /etc/inetd.conf03:32
johannes__i have bad lappie (celeron)03:32
idPok03:32
g0dchildheh. yeah...i really wish I'd known about this earlier- but since everyone was using apt-get i thought I couldnt possibly do much harm..so long as i keep away from dpkg...anywhose, i'll sinstall that apt-howto and see through it. thanks03:32
specteiidP, and /etc/init.d/03:32
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johannes__konqueror needs too long to load03:32
idPok will do03:33
piernikI get in logs  Asus ACPI: Error reading LCD status and I don't know how to fix it03:33
linux_galorejohannes__: you can set konqueror to preload03:33
NoUsejohannes__ go into the bookmark editor in konqueror, File -> Export -> Export to Mozilla03:33
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thoreauputicg0dchild: when it is instaled, type apt-howto and it should open in firefox03:33
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thoreauputicg0dchild: the same doc is on the debian.org website03:33
g0dchildthoreauputic, am running apt-get build-dep amarok03:34
johannes__@linuxgalore: is this the same as to move it into the autostart folder?03:34
linux_galorejohannes__: do you mean slow to load a page or slow to start up03:34
thoreauputicg0dchild: OK - good luck :)03:34
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johannes__slow to start up @linux_galore. once its loaded its fast03:35
linux_galorejohannes__: no kde can be told to pre cache konqueror so when you open a file or want to open a link it starts really fast03:35
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h_mustard5: thank you03:35
johannes__@linux_galore how would i do that?03:35
mustard5h_, np03:35
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frosty_badfishhow can I change my keyboard layout?03:35
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h_mustard5: sorry,but how to join?03:36
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jacob_Hello!03:36
feugan3333Hi. Does anyone know how to setup a local package repository?03:36
ramviI can't get into X :( I've been trying to get Xgl to work. And I did some changes to /etc/kde3/kdm/<the config file>. Thought I removed my changes. But now I'm sent to shell as I start my pc. When I try to /etc/init.d/kdm restart it starts X and shows the loading cuorser for about 10 secs and I'm sent back to shell. Same thing happens if I try to start gnome. What do I do? Thanks in advance!03:36
mustard5h_ type /join #ubuntu-zh03:36
h_mustard5: thanks ,bye03:37
ramviI've tried reconfiguring kdm, kde-core, xserver-xorg, xserver-xgl...03:37
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johannes__@linux_galore is this preload an instance after kde-startup?03:38
jacob_how do i set up ndisgtk... i have the drivers on my desktop and i have it installed... what else should i do?!03:38
mustard5h_, good luck03:38
AkgHi, linux newb here... I'm trying to burn an ISO, but GnomeBaker puts this up: "Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)"03:39
johannes__@NoUse i cannot finde the menu file in konqueror. sorry03:39
Akgsimilar things happen with other programs03:39
linux_galorejohannes__:  open konqueror (click on the home icon) then click on the Settings Menu up the top -> Configure Konqueror -> look down the left hand window for "Performance"  click on that03:39
johannes__i did@linux_galore03:39
linux_galorejohannes__: mark preload03:40
linux_galorejohannes__: I usually set it to 203:40
johannes__ok yes03:40
jacob_how do i set up ndisgtk... i have the drivers on my desktop and i have it installed... what else should i do?!03:40
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johannes__@linux_galore should i tick always keep one instance preloaded?03:40
linux_galorejohannes__: now when you start kde two version of konqueror are already loaded03:41
satemplerjacob_: goto system > admin > networking03:41
linux_galorejohannes__: yes I set it to 2 preloaded03:41
jacob_satempler: ok, but that does not have my wireless card on it03:41
satemplerjacob_: configure your card there03:41
jacob_satempler: wifi card is not on there03:41
ramviI really need some help... What should I reconfigure?03:42
satemplerjacob_: then in a terminal type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper03:42
jacob_ok03:42
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linux_galorejohannes__: also turn minimize memory usage off set it to Never03:42
jacob_FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted03:43
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pvd2006how would you remove KDE and all the KDE programs it installed03:43
satemplerjacob_: did you do sudo modprobe or just modprobe03:43
johannes__@linux_galore thank you03:43
pvd2006like 300 something files I think03:43
jacob_satempler: sudo modprobe03:43
ramvipvd2006: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-base maybe?03:44
satemplerjacob_: type in the console ndiswrapper -l03:44
samulipdv2006, how did you install it?03:44
ramvi:(03:44
pvd2006samuli, I installed it through synaptic manager03:44
samuliach :(03:44
jacob_satempler, no drivers installed03:44
samulithere's no easy way to get all of it removed then.03:44
chripher!flash03:44
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:44
johannes__@linux_galore its faster thats cool03:45
satemplerjacob_: ok now you have the drivers on the desktop03:45
satemplerright03:45
jacob_yes03:45
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nullifie1 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:45
nullifie1 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:45
satemplerunziped03:45
linux_galorejohannes__: Ive got a two year old p4 2.4ghz machine and the file manager (konqueror) open under 1 second03:45
linux_galoreopens*03:45
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pvd2006ah, that sucks, they should of made a way to remove all packages installed with a certain package even if it is seperate if you choose to.03:45
mustard5pvd2006, did you install using aptitude or apt-get?03:45
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satemplerjacob_: are they unziped03:45
pvd2006mustard5, I use synaptic package manager03:45
samulipvd2006, there is. It's called aptitude.03:45
jacob_satempler: yes, in inf form03:45
mustard5pvd2006, k...well if you install using aptitude it would do what you wanted it to do03:46
KingLearHello All03:46
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satempleryou should have 2 files a .sys and .inf03:46
mustard5pvd2006, bit late now of course03:46
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KingLearI have a seemingly simple question first03:46
jacob_satempler: i have those too03:46
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mustard5pvd2006, there is a thread on the forums that makes some suggestions on how to do it03:46
thoreauputicKingLear: how'a Cordelia?03:46
satemplerok open the ndisgtk thingy03:46
KingLearafter Upgradation of distros, the GRUB shows previous installed kernels as well as the newest updated kernel,03:46
pvd2006well I guess Ill deselect all the programs that start with K...03:46
mustard5pvd2006, aysiu started it quite some time back03:46
johannes__@linux_galore konqui is faster than firefox for you? personally i like konqu much better03:46
samulikinglear, yes?03:47
mustard5pvd2006, that might not work so well :D03:47
ramviAnyone know what I have to reconfigure or what I need to do? I've been trying to get Xgl working. And I did some changes to /etc/kde3/kdm/<the config file>. Thought I removed my changes. But now I'm sent to shell as I start my pc. When I try to /etc/init.d/kdm restart it starts X and shows the loading cursor for about 10 secs and I'm sent back to shell. Same thing happens if I try to start gdm. What do I do? Thanks in advance!03:47
HymnToLifeKingLear> yes, and ?03:47
KingLearcan any one tell me how to safely remove the previous ones from showing up in Boot process , and if possible from the PC altogether03:47
jacob_satempler: i have an inf and a sys03:47
satemplerok03:47
jacob_satempler: actually 2 sys03:47
satemplerjacob_: open ndisgtk03:47
linux_galorejohannes__: well konqueror should be faster, firefox has to run a script before it starts up to find all the resources. konqueror doesnt need to its part of the desktop03:47
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HymnToLifeKingLear> uninstall them from Synaptic if the new one works fine03:47
samulikinglear, just use synaptic or something to remove linux-image-*. that aren't the newest ones.03:47
jacob_satempler: ok03:47
jacob_satempler: have it open03:48
mustard5KingLear, you can edit the menu.lst to remove the old entries03:48
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satemplerwhat are your options03:48
mustard5KingLear, make a backup first03:48
SeveasHello Ubuntupersons!03:48
KingLearHymnToLife,  how to use synaptic?03:48
ramviHeya :)03:48
mustard5Seveas, greetings :)03:48
samuliUbuntu persons, lol.03:48
KingLearplease?03:48
farruinnIs kismet the only wireless network sniffer available?03:48
LinuxJonesSeveas: welcome03:48
KingLearnew one works fine03:48
samulikinglear, start 'synaptic package manager'03:49
satemplerjacob_: what are your options03:49
HymnToLifeKingLear> or from whatever you are unsing to manage packages, just remove the old linux-image03:49
SeveasKingLear, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto03:49
samulifrom the administration menu.03:49
KingLeari updates via synaptic, HymnToLife03:49
jacob_satempler: Install network driver03:49
mustard5KingLear, its always a good idea to leave an old kernel installed03:49
KingLearupdated*03:49
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mustard5KingLear, the come in handy if the new kernel gives you trouble in the future03:49
linux_galorejohannes__: you can actually import the addblock text file from firefox into konqueror03:49
satemplerjacob_: ok click on that03:49
martin__#ubuntu-es03:49
dfgashow do i get a user to be able to load a new session03:49
KingLearmustard5,  wont it occupy extra space?03:49
idefixcan anyone explain what happens when you get "Found a swap file by the name ".webcamrc.swp" ?03:49
mustard5KingLear, yeah, but not too much space03:49
SeveasKingLear, ~85MB03:49
idefixwhile running vi webcamrc03:49
jacob_satempler: awsome!03:49
HymnToLifeKingLear> about 40 MB, are you so short on diskspace ?03:49
satemplerjacob_: point it to the .inf03:49
samuliSeveas, lol. Bot that much.03:50
KingLearBut I have three of them03:50
samuli*Not03:50
KingLearthe previous ones03:50
Seveassamuli, including l-r-m it's 85 mb03:50
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KingLearHymnToLife,  no i am not short on diskspace03:50
jacob_satempler: i have the driver installed now03:50
mustard5KingLear, k..well you probably have one more than you need :)03:50
linux_galorejohannes__: theres a firefox extension that download a addblock text file, but if you just grab the text file manually you can use that in konqueror03:50
johannes__@linux_galore i always use konqu before. you prevented me from moving back so why should i?03:50
HymnToLifethen I think you'd better leave them be03:50
thoreauputicKingLear: then just leave them there...03:50
dfgasX: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.03:50
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satemplerok now you should be able to configure it03:50
Kournikozahello. i'm using an IDE compact flash.. but on boot it gives me a driveready seekcomplete error.. and continues with booting, sometimes it hangs because dma timeout, how can i disable dma in the kernel for ide compact flash disks? i also have a fixed sata disk in the box which needs dma.. anyone can help me? i'm using kernel 2.603:50
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jacob_satempler: i have the driver installed03:50
KingLearmustard5,  I upgraded from Hoary installation ,03:50
satemplerjacob_: now you should be able to configure it03:50
AkgI'm trying to burn an ISO, but GnomeBaker puts this up: "Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)". so... how can I burn an Iso?03:50
jacob_satempler: i don't understand why when i did that before it didn't come up03:50
KingLearand I have now Three of them on the Grub menu03:51
mustard5KingLear, just editing the grub menu.lst is enough to make it at least neat and understable for users of the computer03:51
KingLearwhen the system starts03:51
satemplerjacob_: no shure03:51
HymnToLifeAkg> use k3b :)03:51
jacob_satempler: yes, but when i put in the wep key my computer gets all screwy03:51
HymnToLife!iso03:51
ubotuit has been said that iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto03:51
Akgtried that too, HymnToLife03:51
KingLearmustard5,  thanx , for the advice,03:51
KingLearHymnToLife,  thank You as well03:51
KingLearI have another question03:51
satemplerjacob_: I don't mess with encryption03:51
mustard5KingLear, yeah...make a backup of /boot/grub/menu.lst  and then edit the menu.lst to remove the old entries03:51
jacob_satempler: well, my dad doesn't wan't people uploading stuff03:51
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jacob_satempler03:51
samuliI wouldn't go out and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst if I didn't know what I was doing.03:51
jacob_oops03:51
HymnToLifeKingLear> !justask ;)03:51
satemplerjacob_: I know I am supposed to have it on but never works for me03:52
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Kane666hey03:52
OlliKhi03:52
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jacob_satempler: yeah.03:52
Kane666i was just wondering how do i compile c++ source code in linux?03:52
satemplerjacob_: well03:52
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jacob_satempler: well, bye03:52
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samulialthought removing old entries is pretty easy.03:52
KingLearOkay03:52
jacob_satempler: thanks for the help03:52
KingLearI installed webhttrack03:52
satemplerjacob_: see you can work with it now though03:52
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jacob_satempler: probly03:52
KingLearand then I installed Firefox 1.5 on Breezy,03:52
johannes__@linux_galore why would i need that adblock textfile? i have block option in konqu03:53
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KingLearwhen I try to run webhttrack,03:53
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KingLearit doesnt start,03:53
jacob_satempler: bye03:53
KingLearasking me to close the browser that is already running03:53
thoreauputic!ff1.503:53
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:53
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KingLearwhen I close FF 1.5, it refuses to start03:53
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ramvi!!xgl03:53
uboturamvi: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:53
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HackerGateshi03:53
ramvihehe03:53
KingLearwhat can I do to make webhttrack work , HymnToLife ? mustard5 ?03:54
AkgHymnToLife, K3B has this error: "CDrecord has no permission to open this device"03:54
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Kane666does annyone know how to compile a c++ program (that i made) in ubuntu?03:54
mustard5KingLear, I've never used webhttrack, so I'm no help :)03:54
HackerGateschannel italian03:54
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HackerGatesthe link?03:54
mustard5!it03:54
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:54
hastesaverKane666, install gcc03:54
HymnToLifeAkg> are you logged is as another user than the one you created during install ?03:54
Kane666hastesaver: yeh ive done that03:54
linux_galorejohannes__: ok you can add filters to addblock in both konqueror and firefox, now firefox has an extensions called  adblock filterset, what this does is download a text file and adds ti to the firefox adblock filter rules, but you can also use the same text file with the Konqueror adblock filter rules03:54
AkgNope, I'm on as the original user03:54
Poker_who can help me? when i start my laptop at the end on the grafical interface i can see only the desktop image... even if it should start everything because i can see same advice from kopete...03:55
samuliKane666, install package build-essential03:55
thoreauputic!b-e03:55
ubotuor if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.03:55
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KingLearHymnToLife,  can you guide me why webhttrack is not opening in FF 1.5 , even though I re-installed both of them03:55
Kane666samuli: yeh done that.. whats the command to compile?03:55
hastesaverKane666, then type "g++ <programname.cpp>" at the terminal; it will create a.out, and you can run it with "./a.out"03:55
KingLearWebhttrack via apt-get and FF 1.5 via that wiki link03:55
Akgthe only user, matter of fact03:55
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pvd2006sudo apt-get remove --purge, that should get rid of the kdge apps03:55
Kane666hastesaver: thanks ill try that now03:55
samuliKane666, I don't know. I've compiled with the usual ./configure, make, sudo make install03:56
callieis there a channel for 64bit?03:56
BuFFhow to change xp filesystem from ntfs to fat32 on linux ?03:56
HymnToLifeAkg> sudo chmod 644 /dev/sg0 should work, but there is certainly another way03:56
samuliDunno what to do if the source doesn't have configure :)03:56
Akgk thx03:56
samuliBuff, there's no way, me thinks.03:56
mustard5BuFF, and still keep your data?  I can't see that being possible on linux03:57
HymnToLifeBuFF> you can't change FS like that, you have to format03:57
HymnToLifeand thus lose all data on it03:57
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calliei remember reading somewhere about x needing some tweaking after a fresh install of ubuntu 64 but i cant remember exactly what it was, any 64 bit users here ?03:57
nullifie1Guys, I follow the flash guide on the ubuntu site and the message i get returned is - Couldnt find package flashplugin-nonfree03:57
nullifie1any idea's03:57
johannes__is there a mobile that can be synchronised with kde's 3.5.1. kontact?03:57
dfgashow do i get a user to be able to load a new session  --> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.03:57
HymnToLifecallie> didn't need any tweaking here03:57
calliejohannes__: my sony w800i syncs fine03:58
pvd2006what exactly does the --purge option for apt-get do?03:58
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thoreauputic!tell nullifie1 about repos03:58
callieHymnToLife: what gfx card and mobo do you have?03:58
HymnToLifepvd2006> man apt-get03:58
samulipvd2006, it removes the package and the config file.03:58
pvd2006HymnTolife, I am there03:58
johannes__@callie via cable bluetooth infrared?03:58
pvd2006Samuli, so i guess thats still not a solution to my problem, eh?03:58
calliejohannes__: all three03:58
HymnToLifeGeForce 6200SE with an MSI K8N Neo 403:58
jendathoreauputic: hmm... what's the scp command to send /a/file to 192.168.x.x/some/path? Or is it scp?03:58
ompaul!tell nullifie1 about multiverse03:58
samulipvd2006, no :/03:58
mustard5pvd2006, it removes configuration files03:59
samulipvd2006, I think there is no solution with apt-get03:59
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ompaulnullifie1, read the message from ubotu - it tells you what you will need to get that package03:59
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HymnToLifepvd2006> the answer certainyl is there03:59
callieHymnToLife: ok so it shouldnt be so different, i have GF660003:59
mustard5pvd2006, there is a thread in the ubuntuforums on this subject.03:59
thoreauputicjenda:  scp file destination:/path/to/directory03:59
pvd2006mustard5, I am there03:59
pvd2006its a long list of the programs03:59
jendathoreauputic: thanks03:59
pvd2006I just hope its safe.03:59
callieHymnToLife: its like x is there but its all garbled03:59
mustard5pvd2006, read the whole thread first03:59
mustard5pvd2006, people had problems04:00
HymnToLifecallie> ie ?04:00
samulijust remove what you can, and leave the rest.04:00
samulito ease you try to find some kde-core libs that most programs depends on.04:00
Tidusjenda: 'scp /a/file username@192.168.x.x:/some/path'04:00
johannes__@callie if i preferred the nokia menu..where could i find more about which mobiles can be synchronised?04:00
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jendaTidus: even more thanks ;)04:00
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linux_galorejohannes__:  if you open konqueror click on Settings -> Configure Konqueror   look for Adblock Filters  you will see an "import" button down the bottom. you can import the firefox filterset text file04:01
calliejohannes__: forums, wiki, google04:01
nullifie1Thanks for the info guys, ill do that when i get home04:01
callieHymnToLife: well, im not sure how to be more specific, it looks all garbled and corrupt04:02
Tidusjenda: or if you have KDE installed, just open konqueror and type 'fish://username@192.168.x.x:/some/path' then drag and drop04:02
ompauljohannes__, this is IRC using a @ at the beginning of a line is not needed most clients react by highlighting a users name when you use the users name and @ is in public view04:02
jendaTidus: nope, no KDE04:02
Tidusjenda: ah04:02
Kane666hey, i just downloaded aMule 2.0.3 and i cant download any servers (ive set up my proxy settings..) ?04:02
idefixhow long is executing the command webcam supposed to take?04:03
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jendaTidus: will that work for /a/dir or will I have to do /a/dir/*?04:03
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johannes__ompaul: so without @is not highlighted? is this impolite using @or just unnecessary?04:03
Tidusjenda: if you need to copy a whole dir, use 'scp -r /some/directory username@destination:/some/path'04:03
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mustard5johannes__, unnecessary04:04
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johannes__ok04:04
johannes__thx guys04:04
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mustard5johannes__, np04:04
linux_galorejohannes__: heres the filterset text file you can add to konqueror to filter out the crap on web pages -> http://www.pierceive.com/filtersetg/2006-04-06a.txt04:05
faroushow to check the package list for dapper04:05
hastesaverfarous, packages.ubuntu.com04:05
idefixc'mon guys... no webcam users here?04:05
johannes__linux_galore: thx04:05
ompauljohannes__, well it is unnecessary and because it is not an ordinary letter it kind of draws peoples eyes to the start of that line, it may break the highlighting in some clients where a character before nickname would be seen as the same word and thus not the nickname as it is Xnickname :-)04:05
farousi need to know if a latest ver of a package is in it04:05
farousthans hastesaver `04:05
gnomefreakfarous: packages.ubuntu.com04:05
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farousthanx gnomefreak04:06
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jryerI just installed LAMP packages using Synaptic. I then installed phpmyadmin also using Synaptic. Now where do I find phpmyadmin?04:06
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linux_galorejohannes__: just import the file into konqueror as I showed before and then konqueror now has an extensive filter list of things that are advertising04:06
pvd2006I think I found a solution to uninstall all the kde programs, debfoster, removing kde from the file of packages installed saving it then running deboster and entering no for each package it asks if I want to keep.04:06
idefixdid I install webcam/easycam2 incorrectly if running the command webcam takes forever?04:06
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Kane666sorry for re-asking but does annyone know why amule isn't downloading the server list?04:07
hastesaverwhat is vmware? Can I use it to install another OS on top of Ubuntu?04:07
thoreauputic!vmware04:07
ubotuthoreauputic: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:07
thoreauputichmm04:07
Nghastesaver: it's a virtualisation system - it creates a virtual PC you can install another OS into04:07
hastesaverNg, and is it free?04:07
thoreauputichastesaver: the answer is yes04:07
Nghastesaver: nope04:07
ompaulidefix, it does take a fair amount of time for it to start, I also noted that its "front" window is backgrounded with little or no effort04:08
thoreauputicNg: there's a"free" vmware player now04:08
Nghastesaver: they do a free "player", but you can't install an OS with it, just run an existing image04:08
Ngthoreauputic: indeed04:08
thoreauputicfree as in beer04:08
hastesaverNg, and what about the free "server"?04:08
thoreauputicNg: there's a wiki about creting images I think04:08
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callieHymnToLife: what driver are you using?04:08
thoreauputic*creating04:08
Nghastesaver: no idea, not touched it, but it's probably way overkill for what you want04:08
Kane666lol anyone?04:09
idefixompaul "front" window?04:09
azurehuesofbluewhat is mb internet?04:09
johannes__how could i preconfigure kopete that it automatically starts with a certain irc channel? usually i have to join the channel manually04:09
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calliejohannes__: i wouldnt use kopete for irc04:09
idefixompaul if everything goes right running webcam is supposed to uplaod a picture to a server, right?04:09
hastesaverNg, oh, thanks. The one I want is "VMWare Workstation" then?04:09
calliejohannes__: try something like xchat or Konversation04:09
idefixso if that didn't happen...04:09
johannes__callie i used xchat and liked it much04:09
Nghastesaver: I reckon so, yeah04:09
pvd2006ok when I use debfoster I got an abort error at the end right after it says after unpacking 512megs of disk space will be free do you want to continue?04:09
linux_galorejohannes__: I use gaim so I cant help you there04:10
thoreauputicjohannes__: there's almost certainly a config option for that - someone in #kubuntu might know04:10
ompaulidefix, only if you tell it to you can test by taking single shots and sticking them into your local directory04:10
HymnToLifecallie> the nvidia one works pretty well04:10
hastesaverNg, thanks. Do you know of any free alternatives?04:10
salmiaki can't get samba sharing to work04:10
salmiakit just...doesn't work...04:10
johannes__callie but kopete is handy if you chat in msn and icq parallelly04:10
salmiakdo i have to add some special user or something?04:10
thoreauputic!tell hastesaver about qemu04:10
ompaul!tell salmiak about samba04:10
ompaulsalmiak, read the message from the bot04:10
hastesaverthoreauputic, thanks!04:10
salmiakthx, ompaul ;)04:11
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johannes__sure it doesnt have this typical cool irc style or why wouldt you use it for irc chat callie04:11
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azurehuesofbluedoes anyone know what mbinternet is associated with?04:11
thoreauputichastesaver: there's awiki about using kqemu too - which is quicker than qemu04:11
linux_galorejohannes__: Im chatting on IRC/Yahoo/MSN/ICQ/AIM/Google-chat  all at the same time on Gaim04:11
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hastesaverthoreauputic, thanks, I'll look for it.04:11
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ompauljohannes__, that is a kde question there is #kubuntu for that :-) {we got all bases covered}04:12
johannes__linux_galore you use gnome? whats bad about kopete?04:12
linux_galorejohannes__: each chat windows has its own tab, same as firefox/konqueror04:12
johannes__ompaul yes04:12
Tidusi normally use irssi for my irc04:12
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linux_galorejohannes__: kopete doesnt support Yahoo chat04:12
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gnomefreakIMHO gaim is better than kopete for everything04:13
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linux_galorejohannes__: you dont have to run gnome to run gaim04:14
HymnToLifegnomefreak> kopete looks better :D04:14
gnomefreaklol04:14
raunowhat is a good virus scanner for server linux04:14
pvd2006There we go, the prune option in debfoster got rid of all the kde packages04:14
pvd2006:)04:14
HymnToLife!virus04:14
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife04:14
idefixompaul that's supposed to go quicker then?04:14
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linux_galoreyeah but i have some really wicked home brew gaim plugins done in perl. makes my life allot easier04:15
azurehuesofblueHelp!  I'm in netherland!  I know how to edit my sources.list file and have a quick trigger finger but don't want to mess everything up!04:15
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crazy_penguinhi!04:15
idefixompaul how do you have to edit the webcamrc-file?04:15
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crazy_penguinon what channel can i find the ubuntu developers?04:15
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thoreauputichastesaver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu  <-- look here for enhanced qemu speed04:16
mustard5azurehuesofblue, I don't know what mb internet refers to...04:16
ompaulidefix, I did not I just used the application - not on this machine so I can't test it now to tell you04:16
mustard5azurehuesofblue, what is the context of this 'mb internet'?04:16
gnomefreakcrazy_penguin: ask in here we dont normally like to bother the devel team04:16
azurehuesofbluedeb-src http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu/ breezy/04:16
calliebrb04:16
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idefixif you change host to your ip-address, would that work then?04:16
idefixompaul..04:17
serpwhen I do fullscreen in a app it appears on the wrong screen04:17
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serphow do I change so it shows on my primary monitor?04:17
mustard5azurehuesofblue, what repository is that ?  what is it for?04:17
crazy_penguingnomefreak: i only want to thank them for this marvelous distro :) nothing else.04:17
mathieuserp: which app?04:17
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serpmathieu: any app that does fullscreen04:17
KingLearHey all04:17
KingLearHow to use mldonkey ?04:18
mustard5!donate04:18
ubotufrom memory, donate is See http://www.ubuntu.com/donations for donating to Ubuntu04:18
ompaulidefix, I started the application, with regards to it hitting some random server the tools were all there in a human useable form no fancy edits needed04:18
mathieuserp: i remember i fixed that by swapping the cables on my gfx card ;)04:18
azurehuesofbluewell, I used Automatix AND Easyubuntu... so... I dunno. that's my problem, kinda "reverse installing" if you will mustard5 lol04:18
serpmathieu: hrm04:18
ompaul!automatix04:18
linux_galoreKane666: I use mldonkey, one of the protocols mldonkey supports is emule04:18
mathieuserp: some apps like mplayer offer the choice, iirc04:18
ubotuit has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.04:18
ompaulazurehuesofblue, ^^^04:18
visik7how can I temporary disable hotplug for usb disks ?04:18
serpmathieu: is a per-app setting?04:18
mustard5azurehuesofblue, sounds potentially disasterous :)04:19
serpI thought full screen was part of x or something04:19
mathieuserp: no, i think there is a 'main' or 'first' screen04:19
Kane666linux_galore: do you have any idea why i cant connect to download a server list? ive set up my proxy settings...04:19
azurehuesofbluelol yeah.04:19
mustard5azurehuesofblue, are you trying to get of something that was installed?04:19
KingLearHow to use mldonkey ?04:19
mathieubut the apps can or could choose the screen04:19
hastesaverthoreauputic, thanks. The Qemu page also mentions KQemu and -- at least at first glance -- different instructions... which one should I follow?04:19
linux_galoreKane666: yeah usually means you have a port blocked on the firewall04:19
ompaulazurehuesofblue, back up your personal data and reinstall, who knows what using both of them broke04:20
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azurehuesofblueWell, I' don't even know how to figure out what it is refering to.04:20
pvd2006well debfoster deleted xmms, but oh well.04:20
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Kane666linux_galore: but its using port 1080 (socks) and my proxy server allows that port?04:20
serpmathieu: oh okay04:20
linux_galoreKane666: or if your behind a router you dont have port forwarding setup04:20
mustard5azurehuesofblue, start from scratch and only use easyubuntu?04:20
serpbut it chooses my left screen, even though it's seconadry04:20
KingLearHow to use mldonkey ? please?04:20
azurehuesofblueompaul... the reason I did it, was because I use myspace... and I cant figure out how to make the stupid embedded flash player thing work?04:20
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azurehuesofbluedoes easyubuntu have a better rep?04:21
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mustard5azurehuesofblue, in here it does yeah04:21
linux_galoreKingLear: read the howto on the home page you have to setup a few things. or run kmldonkey and then run the setup tool04:21
Kane666linux_galore: i dont need port forwarding because all my trafic goes through my host computer not the router because im on dial-up04:21
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the_mugdo any of you know how I can create or get an apache 2.2 init script? I compiled Apache from source and I don't have one ubuntu...04:21
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azurehuesofbluek04:21
mustard5azurehuesofblue, come in here for guidance on flash04:21
linux_galoreKane666: then you have to open a port04:21
KingLearlinux_galore,  can you gimme a link here please?>04:21
mustard5azurehuesofblue, someone will throw you a link :D04:21
linux_galoreKingLear: for what04:22
Kane666linux_galore: what port? 1080 is open...04:22
KingLearfor setting up mldonkey04:22
linux_galoreKane666: 1080 isnt emule04:22
KingLearI have mlgui as well as mlserver installed04:22
KingLearbut they don t seem to work , linux_galore04:22
Kane666linux_galore: yeh but thats what it 'should' be connecting through because ive set it up to use my proxy server04:22
linux_galoreKingLear: what am I google04:22
azurehuesofbluewell, I've talked to some of the easyubuntu developers and they seem nice, I should've just waited, if I'm thinking about reinstalling everything, I might as well just delete this line in my sources.list and see if it fixes it before I do that... ya know? mustard5 and ompaul?04:23
KingLearI thought you were co-operating, linux_galore04:23
KingLear:)04:23
linux_galoreKingLear: ?? yeah like I know millions of links right of the top of my head04:23
mustard5azurehuesofblue, what is the issue though?04:23
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azurehuesofblueit just says 404 when I update.04:23
KingLearbye , and thanks for the hint linux_galore04:24
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ompaulazurehuesofblue, you can only do things like that if you know exactly what you have broken, and I guess that the answer to that is you don't know04:24
ramviI have some trouble with X. Can anyone take a look? It won't start... http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71353604:24
mustard5azurehuesofblue, ah ok..yeah..just put a # in front of it and sudo apt-get update04:24
the_mugany possible direction on init scripts? for Apache 2.2?04:24
azurehuesofbluewhat does the # do... do you mean in the sources file... does it just ignore it... ompaul... I hear ya.04:25
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Absenthwhat would the apt package name be for glib 2.8.3?04:25
linux_galoreazurehuesofblue:  # usually tells the compiler or script interpreter to ignore that line'04:25
ompaulazurehuesofblue, it ignores04:25
mustard5azurehuesofblue, the # is like a remark...putting it in front of a line makes the line a comment04:25
azurehuesofblueoh I see, like a comment.04:26
azurehuesofblueright on.04:26
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azurehuesofblueso ompaul's advice is figure it all out from scratch?04:26
azurehuesofblueuse neither ompaul?04:26
ompaulazurehuesofblue, yes it is04:26
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mustard5azurehuesofblue, you might learn some stuff fiddling with it...at least you can't break it anymore than you have :)04:26
NoUseAbsenth glibc is already installed04:26
ompaulazurehuesofblue, if you want to use one use easyubuntu, but today it is having a problem04:26
mustard5azurehuesofblue, obviously starting from scratch gets you closer to being productive :)04:27
azurehuesofbluehaha tha'ts what I'm thinking.04:27
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NoUseAbsenth are you trying to compile something?04:27
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AbsenthNoUse, the ./configure for irssi is complaining about it not being there.04:27
NoUseAbsenth well first of all, irssi is in synaptic, but if you need to compile it you need to install the build-essential package04:28
chripher!samba04:28
uboturumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html04:28
ompaulazurehuesofblue, I can get you around that problem, when installed cd easyubuntu/trunk and chmod 755 the easyubunt.py file then run the last command on their site but frankly wait a few hours and I imagine that it will be fixed04:28
idefixompaul, I installed camorama and it works so that means the drivers of the webcam are ok, right?04:28
AbsenthNoUse, since it's a CLI only Ubuntu install, any idea what the package name is so I can just apt-get install?04:28
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AbsenthNoUse, and build-essential is already installed04:29
NoUseAbsenth sudo apt-get install irssi04:29
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ompaulidefix, no it means that one that looks reasonable has been choosen, you can do a little work with it and see how it goes, it seems all straight forward enough04:29
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Kane666linux_galore: how do i set up amule to be able to connect (sorry if im getting annoying)04:30
azurehuesofblueOK, well, really, I mean, if I delete this line from my sources.list... then I mean... nothing visable would be broken ompaul right?04:30
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ompaulazurehuesofblue, and how do you add anything new and how do you fix that which is broken04:30
AbsenthNoUse, Package irssi is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:30
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the_mugBueller......... Bueller....... anyone?04:31
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gnomefreakAbsenth: its already installed04:31
NoUseAbsenth try irssi-text04:31
linuxl202,k{04:31
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mustard5azurehuesofblue, just comment it out rather than removing...then you have it available at a latter stage04:31
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zeeblehello all04:31
AbsenthNoUse, that works, thanks.04:31
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mustard5azurehuesofblue, why its 404'ing at the moment is not really clear04:31
linuxl20200204:31
azurehuesofbluelol, I'm confused... I know ompaul has quite a bit of experience.04:31
linux_galoreKane666: you have to open port 467204:32
linux_galoreKane666: on your firewall04:32
azurehuesofbluemustard5 not that you don't.04:32
Kane666linux_galore: by firewall do you mean proxy server?04:32
linux_galoreKane666: you can do that with firestarter04:32
azurehuesofbluemustard5 you think I should just comment it out and keep on truckin?04:32
mustard5azurehuesofblue, yeah04:32
linux_galoreKane666: no on the Linux machine04:32
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crazy_penguinis easyubuntu an installable packages or separate component?04:33
Kane666linux_galore: i haven't installed a firewall04:33
mustard5azurehuesofblue, later on you can come back and work on it then :)04:33
linux_galoreKane666: Linux has a built in firewall04:33
linux_galoreKane666: firestarter is just an admin tool04:33
mustard5azurehuesofblue, for now its not working..for what reason I am not sure, but it might be something documented on the EasyUbuntu website04:33
Kane666linux_galore: how do i start firestarter?04:33
azurehuesofbluemustard5... I REALLY want to learn backups... so I think I am going to keep going, know my machine is probably compromised LOL04:33
ompaulazurehuesofblue, step 1 back up your data, step 2 reinstall, step 3 update the install and add the extra repos, step 4 use the documentation or easyubuntu nothing else for your codec implementation, step 5 add other applications as desired, step 6 restore data04:34
linux_galoreKane666: type sudo firestarter04:34
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linux_galoreKane666: if its installed04:34
mustard5azurehuesofblue, k..its a good time to be bold and experiment04:34
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Kane666linux_galore: its not, command not found04:34
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linux_galoreKane666: have to apt-get firestarter04:34
ompaulazurehuesofblue, please stop terminating every line in "laughing out loud" it does nothing and when you want to use it people will not know there is something funny there04:35
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squirrelpimphi04:35
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Kane666linux_galore: unable to fetch some archives04:35
linux_galoreKane666: sudo apt-get firestarter   to be precise04:35
Kane666??04:35
squirrelpimpi unfortunately installed the 64-bit version of dapper, now i don't have flash etc. any sugegstions on which free version to try? oder should i reinstall i386?04:36
zee417Does anyone know how to configure postfix to relay all email to another mailserver? I'm new to postfix and can't figure out how04:36
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NoUseAbsenth just for future reference, you can usee 'apt-cache search keyword' to search apt-get04:36
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AbsenthNoUse: Thank you.  I knew there had to be a way to search which packages were in Apt without Synaptic.04:36
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GibsonYou Bun Two.04:36
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gnomefreakubotu tell squirrelpimp about flash04:37
cghow to change display res to 1280x800?  i only have 1024 option to select,why?04:37
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gnomefreaksquirrelpimp: there are a few choices on that site but 64bit and flash dont play well together04:37
Absenthcg: I suspect you can edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as one option.04:37
squirrelpimpgnomefreak: :-(04:37
gnomefreakmost non-free apps dont play well with 64bit04:38
NoUse!tell cg about fixres04:38
squirrelpimplooks like a reinstall then...:-(04:38
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hastesaverHow do I make sudo not ask for a password?04:39
simonp_I've got 'insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/CiscoVPN/cisco_ipsec.ko': -1 Invalid module format" error. Can anyone help me?04:39
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mathieuuser ALL=NOPASSWD: (ALL) ALL04:39
mathieusomething like that04:39
mathieuhastesaver: but you better check the man page04:39
hastesavermathieu, *groans*.. thanks :)04:40
GibsonRequest:  Freelance Ubuntu experts required for major international development project.  Location not important, but willingness to work as part of a team and provide input according to a precise spec is required.  Minimum of 10 hours input over a 2 month period required to register your interest.  Msg me for further info with details of your experience and reference sites if possible.  Thank you.04:40
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azurehuesofblueMustard5: I think I'd be cool either way but ompaul is on here like ALL the time and as a total newb I need his help so Imma reformat... not quite brave enough to go it alone, but thanks man! I learned # :-)04:40
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mustard5azurehuesofblue, sure np04:41
korodedarrick: you around?04:41
p01n7anyone having troubles with canadian repositories this mornings?04:41
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Kane666linux_galore: ive installed firestarter, now how do i enable that port (forgot the number)04:42
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cghere is my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1384204:42
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cgit seems ubuntu identify 1280, but why it set to 1024?04:43
NoUsecg did you try the wiki page that ubotu sent you?04:43
linux_galore4672 need to open the port04:43
Kane666linux_galore: how do i open a specific port?04:43
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linux_galorejust run firestarter with  sudo firestarter  its pretty obvious04:43
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Kane666yeh i've opened the program, but how do i open a port?04:44
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simonp_oh.. problem solved after installing linux-headers-`uname -r`04:45
wahjavahi group04:45
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wahjavaI want to know what is expected with a daemon started from init.d04:45
linux_galoreKane666: Im not running firestarter right now but Its there in the menu04:45
simonp_im idiot04:45
wahjavaI mean it has to fork itself04:45
wahjava:-S04:45
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Kane666linux_galore: could you run it and have a look, i'm used to using zonealarm so this is confusing me04:46
Kane666..please04:46
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jacob_can someone help me on the installation of madwifi?04:46
wahjavaI've written a blocking application in python which is to be run at system startup04:46
Dr_Willisblocking?04:47
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linux_galoreKane666: http://www.fs-security.com/docs.php04:47
wahjavaDr_Willis: yup blocking ? it is DBUS service04:47
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Dr_Willisim thinking theres some rc.local script that can run stuff like that.. but  not sure if ubuntu udes that or not.04:47
jacob_can someone help me on the installation of madwifi?04:47
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NoUse!repeat04:47
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.04:47
wahjavaDr_Willis: which will block, i.e. waiting for invocation of methods04:47
jacob_ubotu, tell jacob_ about madwifi04:47
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korodedI read the doc on installing the newest firefox in ubuntu, is there one similar for Thunderbird?04:48
Dr_Williswahjava,  the way i read that was your program was 'designed to block somthing' :P04:48
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johannes__where could ic find more which mobiles (esp. nokia) supprt kontacts synchron. tool?04:49
wahjavaDr_Willis: :)04:49
jacob_can someone help me on the installation of madwifi?04:49
wahjavaDr_Willis: It is waiting for some input04:49
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Dr_Williswahjava,  i seem to recall some rc service that was designed for misc commands and stuff to run.. but i guess if your program wants actual input.. there may not be a trivial way around that.04:51
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girafeI all, i have juste installed kubuntu and i have a problem with my mouse ( USB ), it freeze  after 5min... can someone help me ?04:51
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wahjavaDr_Willis: My service is just like hald or any daemon depending on DBUS except it is written in Python04:51
jacob_can someone help me on the installation of madwifi?04:52
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NoUsejacob_ if you are running breezy I think its already installed04:52
jacob_nouse: ok.. then can you help me configure?04:52
NoUsejacob_ you might try #madwifi, I've never use it04:53
jacob_nouse: ok04:53
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ctorralcristina04:54
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Adyethscan someone here tell me how to fix the graphical boot up screens in dapper? I made the mistake of installing the xubuntu desktop, but when I uninstalled it the bootup and shutdown screens got all screwed up.04:55
cgthe wiki tell me add two line:     HorizSync          30-9604:55
cg     VertRefresh        50-16004:55
AdyethsI tried asking in #ubuntu+1 but they seem to be ignoring me in there.04:55
sanych_laptopHow I can figure out whcich version of glibc is installed?04:55
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cgwill that be harmful to the LCD diplay?04:56
NoUsesanych_laptop dpkg -l | grep glibc04:56
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sanych_laptopNoUse: thanks!04:56
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linux_galoreAdyeths: hmm reinstall gdm04:57
NoUsecg I *think* that most LCDs will handle an out of range h/vsync gracefully04:57
cgthanks!04:57
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linux_galoreAdyeths: the actuall bootup is gdm04:58
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cgmy card is intel 855, the wiki have a solution, lucky04:58
Dr_Willislinux_galore,  i think hes refering to the splash screens/logi04:58
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reverbhello, how do i burn an iso-file?04:58
Adyethsyes. the splash screens. the colors are all messed up now. and I don't know how to fix them. and now I can't see any of the messages about whats starting up or whether the services started up ok.04:59
NoUsereverb in linux or windows?04:59
reverbNoUse: what do you think? in ubuntu ofcourse.04:59
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Stormx2Hey everyone, you ok?04:59
linux_galoreAdyeths: press esc04:59
yaya!ati04:59
ubotuati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358904:59
Adyethspressing esc will FIX the problem?05:00
linux_galoreAdyeths: that should show the classical startup05:00
Dr_WillisAdyeths,  could boot with the 'nosplash' option and disable the splash screens totally (i think)05:00
Adyethsthats not what I was asking though.05:00
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NoUsereverb right click on the file, click write to cd05:00
AdyethsI'm asking how to FIX the thing. not avoid it.05:01
reverbNoUse: and if I want to do it in the console-mode?05:01
gnomefreak!usplash05:01
ubotusomebody said usplash was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto05:01
NoUsereverb man cdrecord05:01
gnomefreakAdyeths: ^^^^05:01
Dr_WillisAdyeths,  that would mean uninstalling all the splash related packages and installing the proper ones - woul dbe my guess.05:01
gravesoni installed xubuntu desktop which change the boot ( i think it is called splash) to xubuntu - how can i rmove this and go to the default ubuntu bootup05:01
gnomefreakAdyeths: they changed it today it will be changed again soon im sure05:01
_jason!+usplashchange05:01
ubotuTo change the usplash image shown at boot, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so", choose the one that you want, and then do "sudo update-initramfs -u".05:01
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gnomefreakAdyeths: if you have another window manages either xfce or kde you can change them the way _jason and ubotu said05:02
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Adyethsis there something that will tell me the default settings for usplash so I can make it look proper and readable?05:02
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hastesaverAdyeths, you can just reinstall them (then they'll have the defaults), using "apt-get --reinstall ..."05:03
AdyethsI've already reinstalled usplash05:04
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Adyethsit didn't fix things.05:04
_jasonAdyeths: try purging first05:04
AdyethsI have xubuntu stuff completely uninstalled now too.05:04
Adyethspurging?05:04
cgmy display is 1280x800, but i cannot see this res on the list of intel85505:05
_jasonAdyeths: sudo aptitude purge package05:05
DrBanzaiCan anyone here help me get my portable MP3 player to work under Ubuntu?05:05
cgcan i select 1280x1024?05:05
_jasonAdyeths: purge        - Remove packages and their configuration files05:05
NoUsecg try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:05
AdyethsI've already done that as well.05:05
gymsmokein my iptables ruleset, i have this -A INPUT -s 194.67.23.0/255 -j DROP # Russian server - too much spam05:05
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gymsmokeiptables-restore < primary-ruleset throws an error...05:06
cgthat reconf app seems too verbose05:06
Nggymsmoke: you probably want /24 or /255.255.255.005:06
NoUsecg what do you mean?05:06
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cgi don't know those params05:06
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gymsmokeNg: like 194.67.23.0/24 ...05:07
Nggymsmoke: yep, that'll block 194.67.23.0-194.67.23.25505:07
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NoUsecg they should be in the documentaton for your monitor05:07
pcin0does anybody knows how to configure fvwm ?05:07
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gymsmokeNg: hrmm - it doesn't like the '#' - Bad argument... do comments have to be on a separate line ?05:08
Nggymsmoke: quite probably05:08
pcin0does anybody knows how to configure fvwm  to set the redmondxp-theme?05:08
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gymsmokeNg: that did it, thanks05:08
Nggymsmoke: :)05:08
gravesoni tried the command by ubotu but i get the output - (/usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so). Nothing to configure.05:08
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gymsmokestupid russian mail server... i just opened a site 2 hours ago, and i already got a bunch of spam messages from that address05:09
gnomefreakgraveson: because you only have one desktop enviornment installed or (metapackage)05:09
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DrBanzaiI have a BusLink external USB hard drive, but it dosen't get recognized my Ubuntu, any ideas?05:10
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TobbeHi. I get an error when running this: "ALTER DATABASE mythconverg DEFAULT CHARACTER SET latin1;" in mysql, could it be that I'm missing latin1?05:10
gravesongnomefreak: i am lost now,then how do i get rid of the xubuntu (is it called splash) when booting up05:10
X3n0nhello i would like to know if it is wise to upgrade my ubuntu 5.10 with latest updates to dapper beta...is quite stable? does anyone maces problems?05:11
X3n0nfaces*05:11
gnomefreakgraveson: do you have gnome installed?05:11
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X3n0nyes05:11
gravesongnomefreak : yes05:11
X3n0nit was not for me :P05:11
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gnomefreakgraveson: if you run the command _jason gave it will ask you what one you want to use just use the number next to it and hit enter05:12
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gnomefreakgraveson: what one do you want to change the one with all the modules loading?05:13
gnomefreakor the one after logging in?05:13
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graveson!+usplashchange05:13
micktmhi! someone can use the adsl modem Speedtouch without problems?05:13
ubotuTo change the usplash image shown at boot, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so", choose the one that you want, and then do "sudo update-initramfs -u".05:13
gnomefreakgraveson: that is for the screen that the modules load on05:14
micktm?05:14
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gravesongnomefreak: so let clear this while booting the screen that modules load i should type that command above by jason05:15
gnomefreakgraveson: thats to change that screen yes05:16
micktmSomeone can use the adsl modem Speedtouch without problems?05:16
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gravesonokay let me try that ,because the screen by ubotu is not working05:16
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micktmSomeone can use the adsl modem Speedtouch without problems?05:17
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pcin0does anyone knows how to put a fixed app menu in enlightenment?05:18
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azurehuesofbluesorry this is a newb question but... do I enable all repos?05:18
dima_#ubuntu05:18
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NoUse!tell azurehuesofblue about repos05:18
micktmSomeone can use the adsl modem Speedtouch without problems?05:18
dima_any special boot options for running Live CD from USB CD Rom ?05:19
micktmSomeone can use the adsl modem Speedtouch without problems?05:19
hastesaver!repeat05:19
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.05:19
jmoncayohad somebody used cygwin from windows to forward -X05:19
jmoncayohad somebody used cygwin from windows to forward -X through ssh05:20
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mathieujmoncayo: sure05:20
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mathieujmoncayo: you need to run it from the cygwin xserver though05:20
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X3n0nhallo again! does anyone owning an ATI X1300 managed to have 3d acceleration?05:21
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xfighterhi05:21
xfighterwanna ask somethin guys05:21
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xfighteri have xp sp2 pro05:21
xfighteri wanna install Ubuntu05:21
xfighteron another partition05:21
xfightermy question is05:22
pcin0open the dos prompt  and type05:22
NoUse!enter05:22
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.05:22
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pcin0sudo apt-get install ubuntu05:22
xfighterdo you think that my xp will be damagd or gone because of the linus or am i gonna have the ability to run both05:22
xfighter??05:22
NoUsexfighter you can run both, you just need to reize your ntfs partition to make room05:23
Dr_WillisYou can boot to windows or Linux at boot time. with the Grub boot loader.05:23
pcin0xfighter, the damage will be only one: your disk free space will reduce. :)05:23
hastesaverxfighter, whatever you do, backup everything first05:23
jmoncayomathieu, so how can i ssh from my windows box to my linux box and forward X05:23
xfightermmmm sorry am totally new so am gonna ask u lots of questions05:23
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xfightersee when you install 2 windows system for example05:24
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xfighterwhen you boot05:24
dima_Question: is there any special boot options for running Live CD from USB CD Rom ? Looks like it is loosing USB just before the uSplash.05:24
xfighteru see a menu consisting the 2 ops05:24
xfighterright05:24
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xfighterisn't that gonna happen when i install Ubuntu05:24
NoUsexfighter yes05:24
voraistoshey, i am looking for a good replacement for skype (i would prefer opensource ;) ), can anyone help ?05:25
xfighterso without usin other programmes05:25
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xfighter?05:25
NoUsexfighter yes05:25
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pcin0voraistos, how about the conventional telephone? its open source05:25
NoUsexfighter https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo05:25
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xfighterplease are u sure05:25
mathieujmoncayo: you start cygwin X server, run xterm, and do ssh -X05:25
NoUsexfighter I dual boot right now, I'm sure05:26
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voraistospcin0: yeah but that aint free, and i only have cable. no phone05:26
xfighterso i just setup the Ubuntu like i setup windows05:26
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xfighterand everything goes normally05:26
NoUsexfighter you need to resize your windows partition05:26
Dr_Willis!install05:26
ubotuInstalling Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware05:26
NoUsexfighter read the wiki page I sent you05:26
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jmoncayomathieu, to start cygwin x server i only need to open the shortcut it created during the installation in my desktop?05:26
spectwihi i just upgraded to 2.6.15-2205:27
spectwiwherbut i can't boot05:27
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spectwi*but i can't boot05:27
mathieujmoncayo: it's called something like startxwin.bat05:27
spectwibecause the xfs module doesn't exist05:27
xfighterand a menu will be shown like installing win me for example05:27
jacob_Hey, it says that i can't acess a folder because i don't have owner permissions... but, this is the account that i started up when i installed ubuntu... any help?05:27
spectwii can't seem to find a package05:27
spectwiin apty05:27
baksohello05:27
xfighterright?05:27
spectwi-y05:27
jmoncayook05:27
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mathieujmoncayo: an X will appear in the notification area05:27
spectwii mean05:27
spectwii'm not sure how else i can install it05:27
NoUsexfighter I've never installed Windows ME, I did everything possibly to avoid that one05:28
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hastesaverxfighter, everything *can* (and is likely to) go normally. But you should still backup, no point complaining later.05:28
brettzillaquestion: i get an error when trying to play an mp3... saying i dont have the right plugins.. whats the solution? and where could i get this plugin if i cant apt-get it?05:28
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NoUse!tell brettzilla about mp305:28
hastesaverxfighter, just make sure you resize your windows partition to free up some space, and ask Ubuntu to only use that free space, not touch any existing partitions.05:29
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brettzillaah05:29
burns.05:29
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ubuntuhi guys, i was wondering if its possible to install gnome 2.14 or KDE 3.5 on breezy badger?05:29
ubuntutheres nothing about it on the wiki05:29
azurehuesofbluethanks for the pointer!05:29
_jasonubuntu: no and yes05:29
_jason!kde3.505:29
ubotuTo upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".05:29
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ubuntuthanks!05:29
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ubuntuanything on gnome 2.14 yet?05:30
brettzillathank youuuuu05:30
nuxilwhat do i need to get the nvidia drivers to work05:30
_jasonubuntu: only available in dapper (stable release on June 1st)05:30
samuliI want newer gnome that in dapper :/05:30
samulitahn05:30
samulithan05:30
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samuliit's sluggish.05:31
NoUse!tell nuxil about nvidia05:31
hastesaverCan I have two Linux OSes having the same /home ?05:31
ubuntui'm shocked at how easy ubuntu was to setup, and it auto-detected all the hardware05:31
_jasonsamuli: 2.14 is the latest gnome release05:31
NoUsehastesaver theoretically, yes05:31
ubuntureally impressive05:31
nuxilNoUse thxz05:32
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samulijason, I know. I want newer :(05:33
_jasonsamuli: umm go work on it then to help speed things along :P05:33
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serpwhy is there no package of ajunta2?05:34
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NoUseserp what is it?05:35
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serpan IDE05:35
_jasonserp: isn't it still alpha?05:36
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ubuntuwhere is sources.list located?05:36
ubuntu./etc?05:36
_jasonubuntu: /etc/apt05:36
serp_jason: yeah05:36
serpbut still.. I want it =(05:36
_jasonserp: guess it wasn't deemed stable enough to enter a stable release05:37
Ngserp: if there's no package it's because nobody has made one yet05:37
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serparen't there any unstable packages?05:37
Ngserp: there does seem to be an anjuta2 package in debian's experimental repository. you might be able to rebuild that05:37
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serpoh05:38
serpI'll have a look05:38
serpis kubuntu better than ubuntu?05:38
Ngpersonal preference :)05:38
NoUse!better05:38
ubotuBetter for what? Better for whom? Why don't you try them all, then decide for yourself?05:38
serpwhat's the difference?05:38
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NgUbuntu uses GNOME, kUbuntu uses KDe05:38
azathothhow can i set mount --bind's in the fstab?05:39
Dr_WillisThis is when reading the different web sites come in handy. :P05:39
baksokde is vary nice look05:39
baksobut gnome is nicer05:39
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serpis gnome and kde on top of xorg?05:39
serpwill I use the same xorg.conf with kde?05:39
Ngserp: yes05:40
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ubuntuhow can i edit sources.list in the text editor if it comes up at read only?05:40
NoUseserp ubuntu and kubuntu share the same base system, just different desktops05:40
Ngubuntu: with sudo05:40
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Ngubuntu: or gksudo if it's a graphical editor05:40
baksoserp: there's xubuntu too05:40
ubuntuNg: but im not using terminal, just clicking from apps list05:40
serpoh05:40
serpIll try kubuntu then05:40
serpNg:  I can't find anjuta2 in debian05:40
Dr_Willisi find its best to use ubuntu, then install Kubuntu-desktop05:41
serpYou have searched for packages that names contain anjuta2 in all suites, all sections, and all architectures.05:41
Ngserp: it's in experimental, not unstable or stable. use packages.debian.org05:41
brthello05:41
Ngubuntu: open a terminal and run "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"05:41
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serpand no result05:41
ubuntuok thanks05:41
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brrrt /msg NickServ IDENTIFY hohoho05:41
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Ngserp: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=anjuta&searchon=names&subword=1&version=experimental&release=all05:41
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serpoh... so the package name was still anjuta05:42
serpokay05:42
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mpmcAnyone trying Exile here?05:42
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brrrti have troubles getting the lirc-modules to work :(05:42
mpmcExaile*05:42
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aktiv[b] uhm, anyone know of any control software for a usb switch ?05:42
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brrrtit seems as i have compiled the lirc-modules right and installed but they wont load, what can i do?05:43
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brrrti just get:05:44
brrrtFATAL: Error inserting lirc_dev (/lib/modules/2.6.15-22-k7/misc/lirc_dev.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)05:44
mpmcBah, damn gaim!05:44
NoUsebrrrt lirc is in synaptic, why do you need to compile?05:44
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brrrtthe kernel modules are as binary in synaptic?05:44
idefixdo some internetproviders block too frequent use of ftp? so that means, you have to fix everything of your website up locally and upload the whole lot at once?05:44
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NoUsebrrrt oh nevermind, have you tried this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LircHowto05:45
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mpmcidefix: Not that I know off, depends on where you are in the world..05:46
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nuxilhmm how do i get sound ? i have a sound card issue..05:46
NoUse!tell nuxil about sound05:46
brrrtNoUse: oh, no tried some other howtos, i'll give that a try, thx alot!05:47
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brettzillaso i created a new user, and did "thefuture" on that one in the terminal, and a lot of the features in compiz work for that user, and not mine.. for instance zoom... and the dock..05:47
brettzillahow would i go about reinstalling compiz all together?05:48
aktiv[b] i have an usbswitch 4in/4out i use to switch keys/mouse/printer between several pcs, but in ubuntu only recognizes this as an usb HUB, how can i fix this ?05:48
brettzillaand/or xgl05:48
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Dr_Willisaktiv[b] ,  you mean you hit some keycombo and the switch 'switches' automaticially?05:49
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gerberadI'm been trying to install libglib2.0-dev in synaptic, but I get this: libglib2.0-dev:05:49
gerberad  Depends: libglib2.0-0 (=2.8.3-0ubuntu1) but 2.8.6-1 is to be installed05:49
brettzillacan anyone help me reinstall compiz?05:49
NoUsegerberad you running breezy?05:50
gerberadyeah05:50
cgmy display card set ok to 1280x800, thanks for your help!05:50
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NoUsegerberad have you messed with your souces?05:51
NoUsegerberad sources.list05:51
gerberadNoUse, I haven't touched the sources.list, but I have changed some in synaptic05:51
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NoUsegerberad what have you changed?05:52
sicc1Hey, anyone here ever experienced an issue with totem? When I try to load it up I get this error: Cannot load main form05:53
sicc1I've tried reinstalling it, but to no success.05:53
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idefixGAIM has no live webcam possibily yet, does it?05:53
NoUseidefix not yet, they are working on it05:53
aktiv[b] anyone know how i can set up dualscreen on a nvidia fx5600 ?05:53
gerberadNoUse, I'm in western africa with a slow connection, so I tried to clean up shop.  I deleted a couple that I had added earlier, I deleted the ones for source, and I added an entry for backports05:54
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Ngaktiv[b] : with both monitors on the same card?05:55
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nuxilNoUse wher is rthe old good alsaconfig?05:56
Ngaktiv[b] : if so, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors05:56
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ubuntuis it possible to setup ubuntu so it doesnt ask for the cd-rom every time u want to install something?05:57
Ng!tell ubuntu about sources05:57
ubuntuthanks05:57
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Ngubuntu: ubotu just messaged you with a link to the full sources list for various versions of ubuntu. set your /etc/apt/sources.list to look like the right one05:57
serpI can how do I downgrade a package?05:57
salmiakFINALLY samba is working *happy*05:58
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serpI installed a package from debian experimental over the stable ubuntu package and I wanna move back05:58
salmiaknow my windows machine can reach some read-only stuff here on my ubuntu server ;D05:58
ubuntu!easysources05:58
ubotuubuntu: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:58
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ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:58
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NoUsegerberad please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list05:59
NoUse!tell gerberad about pastebin05:59
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Leminoi have this problem with firefox... the files for the search-engines are located in /usr/lib and thus restricted to root-access. hence, I can't add or delete search-engines.06:00
sanych_laptopwhere I can change link for sync time via ntp.ubuntulinux.org?06:00
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ism720which program do i use to open ununtu.install on win98?06:01
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slackernsanych_laptop, try rightclicking on the clock in gnome and choosing 'adjust date & time' it should be there.06:01
slackernsanych_laptop, im running dapper but i think it's the same in gnome.06:01
NoUseism720 you don't open it from inside windows, you boot from the CD06:01
sanych_laptopslackern, ok, thanks!!!06:02
nuxili dont get it.. it looks like i got the right module loaded.. but i cant do aplay file.wav as a user but if i do sudo aplay file.wav i get sound06:02
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samulifunny thing happened to me in kde.06:02
NoUsenuxil do you belong to the 'audio' group? run 'groups' to find out06:03
samuliI lost my regional settings for keyboard and couldn't get them back?06:03
gerberadnoUse, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1385606:03
nuxilNoUse oh its empty06:03
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NoUsenuxil you need to add yourself to that group to get sound06:04
NoUsegerberad have you run apt-get update since you changed these sources?06:04
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nuxilNoUse already did :D06:05
nuxiljust need to logout now06:06
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gerberadNoUse, yeah previously I hadn't so it took awhile.  But I had done it before trying to install06:06
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NoUseGerrath remove that cipherfunk repo, apt-get update and try again06:06
octanyay.. NoUse thxz :}06:06
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gerberadnoUse, will do06:07
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Pulgokidoes anyone know why i would be getting this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13857 error when trying to install the new kernal using synaptic?06:07
Pulgokisynpatic, whatever its called06:08
Pulgoki:p06:08
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froudis it possible to capture a character-based screen on one terminal from another terminal?06:08
NoUsePulgoki have you deleted anything by hand in /boot?06:08
PulgokiNoUse: not that i know of06:09
gerberadNoUse, same error on dependencies06:09
scifiyo guys, do u think it wud ever be possible to switch directly from ubuntu to windows and back without having to restart ?06:09
NoUsegerberad run this "sudo wget htp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6047 -O /etc/apt/sources.list", this will replace your sources.list with the standard repos, then run apt-get update and try again06:09
scifithats a no then lol06:10
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NoUsegerberad mispelled http there06:10
Kyralscifi: with Xen maybe...but right now Windows doesn't run on Xen06:10
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scifiKyral: whats Xen ?06:10
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Kyralreally cool virtual machine thing06:10
Kyralnot like VMWare or Wine06:10
HunterZhi06:10
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PulgokiNoUse: can i do try the same update by using command line?06:11
Kyral"paravirualization" is the right word06:11
brettzillahow do you reinstall compiz?06:11
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scifiKyral: so its already possible with xen and linux distros ?06:11
Kyralscifi: yah06:11
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Kyralscifi: Xen isn't another OS06:11
NoUsePulgoki you can but it probably won't do much good, which version of the kernel are you currently running?06:11
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Pulgokilrwxrwxrwx    1 root root    26 2006-03-20 18:44 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12- 10-38606:12
Pulgokilrwxrwxrwx    1 root root    25 2006-03-20 09:24 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6 .12-9-38606:12
scifiKyral: yeh i meant USING xen along with linux06:12
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Kyralscifi: you use a patched Linux Kernel(s) and a piece of software known as the Hypervisor06:12
KyralThere is a couple of HowTos for XenDebian and XenBreezy on HowtoForge06:13
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PulgokiNoUse: apparently 2.6.12-10-38606:13
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scifiKyral: maybe virtualisation will become part of linux distros by default06:13
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Kyralscifi: maybe06:14
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KyralI think Xen is going into the Kernels by default06:14
chamodoes anyone have issue with FGLRX as I do ? I can't get ride of MESA since 3 days.06:14
NoUsePulgoki run 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.12-10-386'06:14
NoUsePulgoki then try upgrading06:14
scifihey apparently vmware works for windows and linux ?06:15
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Kyralscifi: yes06:15
DrBanzaiCan anyone here help me get my portable MP3 player to work under Ubuntu?06:16
Kyralthe reason Xen doesn't run Windows is because you need to patch the kernel of whatever OS you plan to run06:16
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Kyraland we all know how MS doesn't like people toying with their kernel :P06:16
serpI just started kdm instead of gdm06:16
serpI see no difference :(06:16
serpexcept the login screen06:16
Kyralserp: welcome to the truth06:16
Kyralthey do the same thing, just a different style06:16
serpno, it looks exactly the same06:16
idefixif I give one of you a username password combination you could theoretically speaking use my desktop showing me all sorts of cool stuff, right?06:17
serpmaybe I did smething wrong06:17
Kyralmuch like GNOME/KDE/XFCE/etc etc etc06:17
NoUseserp you need to select different sessions to change between kde and gnome06:17
NoUseserp use the session menu at the login screen06:17
scifiKyral: not sure how vmware works, i have to "install" my ubuntu onto XP? or wud i be able to use vmware to "link" my seperate xp & ubuntu installations that i have now ?06:17
Kyralscifi: no, that wouldn't work06:17
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Kyralscifi: I heard Qemu can do something like that (load an OS on another partition into the Emulator session) but I dunno about VMWare06:18
scifiso how does vmware work ?06:18
Kyralwhat do you mean how does it work?06:18
scifii have to install linux on xp ?06:18
Kyralscifi: what are you trying to do exactly?06:18
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DrBanzaiAnyway I can get the windows driver for my MP3 player to work under wine or something?06:19
scifiKyral: switch from ubuntu to xp without rebooting06:19
XamDMscifi, you can run vmware on windows ore linux and install another os as guest06:19
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KyralXamDM: I think he wants to load his Ubuntu install without having to reboot06:19
Kyralfrom XP06:19
PulgokiNoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13861 more errors06:19
Kyraland vice-versa06:19
scifiyes Kyral thats it06:19
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Kyralscifi: IIRC you can't do that ATM06:20
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gymsmokeisn't the keyring password the same as the sudo password for the primary user ?06:20
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XamDMscifi, install a host-os ubuntu ore debian and rund windows and ubuntu as guest in vmware06:20
PulgokiNoUse: the first time i tried but had the gui updater open still06:20
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KyralXamDM: but that wouldn't be his install06:20
NoUsePulgoki run 'sudo apt-get -f install' then try the reinstall command, then try upgrading06:20
Pulgokiim sure that was the first error06:20
XamDMscifi, this won't hav 3d-acceleration!!!06:20
prg2020Can someone tell me where to place xscreensaver& so that it starts upon login?06:20
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XamDMKyral, you can modify an existing install to work in vmware06:21
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KyralXamDM: IIRC, he has two installs right now. An Ubuntu Install and an XP install06:21
KyralHe wants to load one or the other without rebooting06:21
BoD[] Hello !06:21
KyralWhy you would want to is beyond me06:21
RayFredPiphello,my system crashed just now06:21
Kyralthe performance hit would be nasty to the Guest OS06:21
RayFredPipwhy?06:21
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XamDMKyral, vmware can boot an OS from a real partition, he just needs to modify fstab etc.06:21
KyralRayFredPip: that is one of the worst questions ever06:21
KyralRayFredPip: way too general06:22
RayFredPipmy mouse cant use06:22
KyralRayFredPip: I could give you 1000 reasons why it MIGHT have crashed06:22
KyralRayFredPip: but witthout more info06:22
gymsmokeisn't the keyring password the same as the sudo password for the primary user ?06:22
BoD[] Hey funny you guys talking about vmware and such06:22
RayFredPipI cant use my mouse ,the pointer does not move06:22
lwizardlis there a way to run .net windows programs on ubuntu ?06:22
BoD[] I just installed ubuntu on windows virtual server06:22
KyralRayFredPip: is it plugged in?06:22
ism720after i finish dl'n ubuntu i have to create cd for install?06:22
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BoD[] and ... it works except X06:22
Pulgokihmm06:22
NoUseism720 yes06:22
Kyrallwizardl: Uhh, maybe Mono?06:22
Pulgokithis is very strange06:23
lwizardlKyral, mono?06:23
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KyralMono, the Open Source implementation of the .NET Framework06:23
BoD[] Is there a way to exit from X, on the logon page?06:23
Kyralbut I don't know much about it06:23
KyralBoD[] : to a VT?06:23
gymsmokei'm trying to connect via login ftp to my colo box (using nautilus), and the dialog comes up with "enter password for default keyring to unlock"06:23
BoD[] Kyral: yeah06:23
KyralBoD[] : CTRL+ALT+F106:23
PulgokiNoUse:  I keep getting the same error even with the -f   |   unable to make backup link of `./boot/config-2.6.12-10-386' before installing new version: Operation not permitted06:23
Pulgokidpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)06:23
RayFredPipKyral, I beat my desk when I was laughing ,and then my system crashed06:23
BoD[] Kyral: ahh :) thanks I'll try06:23
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prg2020Hi, has anyone installed xscreensaver on their ubuntu dist?  How did you get it to start automatically upon login?  What is the proper file to put the command in?06:23
NoUsePulgoki pastebin the output of 'mount'06:24
KyralRayFredPip: maybe thats the problem06:24
gymsmokei tried giving the sudo password, but it's not taking it06:24
gerberadNoUse: Same unmet dependencies06:24
KyralBoD[] : to go back use "CTRL+ALT+F7"06:24
NoUsegerberad I think you might have hosed your system using those 3rd party repos06:24
scifiKyral: why would i want to do that?? because CS runs perfectly on XP and it means everytime i want to play a game i have to log out of ubuntu and reboot into xp. Yes ive tried wine, dont want to bother with cedega06:24
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carvhi, i am not able to mount my crypted fs after upgrading dapper (cryptsetup package)06:24
Kyralscifi: I can guarentee you CS won't work fine under the strain of two OSs06:24
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RayFredPipKyral, and there is a big noise came from my laptop06:25
KyralRayFredPip: after you hit it?06:25
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scifiso basically its not possible yet06:25
RayFredPipKyral, yes ,and the harddisk ndicator light kept on for a long time06:25
KyralRayFredPip: I think I found the problem06:26
gymsmokehelp06:26
KyralRayFredPip: you hit it :P06:26
RayFredPipKyral, with a big noise06:26
RayFredPipKyral, and then I reboot06:26
RayFredPipKyral, it is normal now06:26
gymsmokeisn't the default keyring password the same as the sudo password ?06:26
KyralRayFredPip: You said you hit it right lol06:26
PulgokiNoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386206:26
gerberadNoUse: What it comes down to, I just want a fairly new version of Banshee.  Be one in the repo is 10.4, the new one is was past that, so I was going to compile it myself.   But without the glib-dev, do you have a suggestion on how I could get it?06:26
Kyralscifi: It might work, if your computer is powerful enough06:26
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RayFredPipKyral, I hit on my desk ,my laptop in on my desk06:26
gymsmokehow do i reset the default keyring password06:27
KyralRayFredPip: how hard?06:27
NoUsegerberad wait two weeks for dapper06:27
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gymsmokesounds like a Hardware problem06:27
mpmcI'm getting really scratchy Audio with my Sound Blaster Live :s06:27
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gymsmokeanyone ever used keyrings ?06:27
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NoUsePulgoki why is your /boot partition a vfat partition?06:27
scifiactually this might be possible with a KVM switch ?06:27
Kyralscifi: you'd need two computers :P06:28
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PulgokiNoUse: yes.  100 meg drive06:28
NoUsePulgoki why?06:28
gerberadNoUse: sounds good.  To update to Dapper, can I just get a cd add it to the sources.list, and go from there?06:28
RayFredPipKyral, what?06:28
KyralRayFredPip: Think about this logically06:28
NoUse!tell gerberad about upgrade06:28
gymsmokeapt-get dist-upgrade06:28
RayFredPipKyral, I think it is a problem to my harddisk06:28
scifihmmm yeh id need both OS's logged on simultaneously06:28
PulgokiNoUse: not trying to be rude, but what difference does it make?06:28
gymsmokechange sources to dapper06:28
KyralRayFredPip: It was working fine before you hit the thing right?06:28
DrBanzaiCan anyone here help me get my portable MP3 player to work under Ubuntu?06:28
gymsmokefirst06:28
RayFredPipKyral, of course06:28
NoUsePulgoki vfat is a windows file system, you need a linux paritition06:28
KyralRayFredPip: and now it has abnormalities06:28
Kyralright?06:28
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pike_DrBanzai: cant mount it?06:28
NoUsePulgoki thats whats breaking your kernel upgrade06:28
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gymsmokehow do i reset the default keyring password06:29
PulgokiNoUse: but its worked before06:29
RayFredPipKyral, now ,it is OK06:29
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KyralRayFredPip: then wahts the problem?06:29
NoUsePulgoki you need an ext3 parition for /boot06:29
freeflyinganyone know how to use frambuffer defaultly?06:29
NoUsePulgoki there is no reason to use vfat06:29
PulgokiNoUse: i installed that way for multi boot system a long time ago06:29
Kyralscifi: a KVM just allows you to switch one keyboard, mouse, and monitor between two computers06:29
Kyralor more computers...06:29
DrBanzaipike_, Nope, the kernel sees it as a USB 1.1 device, but then nothing else happens as far as which SCSI device to mount it as or anything06:29
NoUsePulgoki I'm not gonna argue you with, you need to fix that06:29
PulgokiNoUse: is it possible to fix without a total re-install?06:30
NoUsePulgoki I honestly don' tknow06:30
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gymsmokeproftpd is running on the server (ubuntu 5.10) but no file transfers are occurring06:30
NoUsePulgoki I would post this situation to the ubuntu forums06:30
PulgokiNoUse: dont get me wrong, im not trying to argue, ive just had this setup for years with no trouble up untill now06:30
PulgokiNoUse: ok, i'll try that06:30
NoUsePulgoki dpkg is probably trying to make a symlink or something that vfat doesn't support06:30
gymsmokei've tried both commandline and nautilus from ubuntu desktop, but neither one seems to be doing anything06:31
RayFredPipKyral, but when I reboot and login ,I signed my name and passwd ,there was a metionwindow said that GDM_failedsafe is not installed on your computer06:31
PulgokiNoUse: ok,  i'll do some more looking into it.  thanks for helping me track it down this far06:31
NoUsePulgoki sure06:31
KyralRayFredPip: then reinstall GDM06:31
gymsmokeon the commandline i get a good connect, but then any command (ls, pwd, etc) doesn't respond06:31
pike_DrBanzai: im sorry not too experienced but when i mount my mp3 player i normally ls -t /dev | head and one of the things it responds with is like sdb1 or sda1 and then i sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usb006:31
gymsmokeand the server shows the connection as "IDLE"06:32
RayFredPipKyral, necessary ? my ubuntu is OK now06:32
gymsmokein nautilus, the cursor is spinning, as though waiting for something06:32
KyralRayFredPip: everything is working fine now?06:32
gymsmokebut the file list never appears06:32
KyralRayFredPip: completely?06:32
RayFredPipKyral, yes06:32
gymsmokeand the connection on the server still shows as "IDLE"06:32
chripherwhere is the wine filesystem ?06:32
KyralRayFredPip: ....then what is the problem...06:32
gerberadNoUse: Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it!06:32
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RayFredPipKyral, no noise,the mouse works fine06:32
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chripher!wine06:32
gymsmokei've stopped and restarted the ftp daemon, but it doesn't seem to have any effect06:32
tattersif I add a second seperate hard drive for storage do I just format it as ext 3 ?06:33
chripherDBO: you here06:33
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gymsmokethere are two other dialog boxes on the desktop right now that just say "deleting files"06:33
gymsmokebut there is no activity from either one06:33
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gymsmokeand i can't close them06:33
RayFredPipKyral, I resarted my computer after I found the problem ,and now it is OK06:34
gymsmokeanyone here have any suggestions?06:34
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KyralRayFredPip: then....*blank look*06:34
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RayFredPipKyral, what do you mean ?06:34
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KyralRayFredPip: what is the problem...what do you need help with...06:34
gymsmokenow the copy dialogs are just timing out06:35
gymsmokewith no way to stop them or close them06:35
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gymsmokeanyone know anything about ftp?06:35
tattersfile tranfer protocol06:35
DrBanzaipike_, Hmmm...no luck there...thanks though06:35
RayFredPipKyral, I think that my hit on the desk caused a problem to my harddisk06:36
KyralRayFredPip: and?06:36
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gymsmokewhat does 1000 9799 9796 0 12:18 ? 00:00:00 proftpd myuser - 200.12.12.125: IDLE mean?06:37
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slackerngymsmoke, exactly what it says :), myuser is connected to proftpd from ip number 200.12.12.125 and is idle.06:37
RayFredPipKyral, and what's else ? my mouse pointer didnot move06:37
KyralRayFredPip: but you said it works now after a reboot yes?06:37
gymsmokeslackern: except that connecting is all i can do...06:38
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gymsmokeslackern: ls, pwd, etc don't return anything06:38
slackerngymsmoke, is the machine firewalled?06:38
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RayFredPipKyral, yes06:38
BoD[] ... I just made a terrible mistake, I did sudo passwd then I press enter06:38
gymsmokeslackern: iptables is running, but this was working last night...06:38
KyralBoD[] : change it NOW!!!06:38
BoD[] Now my user account can't login, and I don't know what to do06:38
BoD[] Kyral: how ?06:39
gymsmokeslackern: and the port is allowed06:39
RayFredPipKyral, and I pressed any key on my keyboard ,no use06:39
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Kyralyou activated the root account with a blank password!06:39
RayFredPipKyral, So I had to reboot06:39
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KyralBoD[] : login as root and use passwd!06:39
pike_BoD[] : sudo passwd -l root will deactivate it06:39
Kyralpike_: he can't login with his normal account06:39
RayFredPipKyral, no,I used a user account06:40
pike_ah nm06:40
KyralRayFredPip: I was talking to BoD[] 06:40
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KyralRayFredPip: but everything works after the reboot yes?06:40
RayFredPipKyral, yes06:40
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BoD[] When I try to login as root with an empty password it says login incorrect06:40
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KyralRayFredPip: and the problem is? Sometimes all you need is a reboot to fix things06:40
RayFredPipKyral, I just ask you that why the system told to me GDM_failedsafe is not installed06:41
KyralRayFredPip: but it doesn't ask now?06:41
Kyralor tell you now?06:41
coincoinhello06:42
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slackerngymsmoke, had someone at the door hold on.06:42
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enyawHELLO!06:42
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Kyralenyaw: no caps06:43
gymsmokeslackern: ok06:43
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coincoinsomebody knows how to have the address bar on nautilus with ubuntu 5.1006:43
Dr_Williscoincoin,  heh - thers some key combo that shows it.. then it goes away..06:43
Dr_Williscoincoin,  i just can never rember the key combo06:43
coincoinyes CTRL+L06:43
simphello, can you reinstall GRUB with ubuntu 5.10 install CD? because i made a stupid mistake and installed XP after ubuntu06:43
Dr_Willis!grub06:43
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting06:43
Kyraldamn Dr_Willis, beat me to it!06:44
coincoinyes you can06:44
coincoinsimp06:44
enyawhello!06:44
coincointhere is a tutorial on the ubuntu site06:44
simpokey i'l read the links :)06:44
Kyralenyaw: hello....how can we help you06:44
coincoinyou can also do it with floppy06:44
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gymsmokeslackern: port 21 on both input and output is set to ACCEPT in iptables06:44
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coincoinbut I don't want to have to type CTRL+L each time I want the address bar06:45
slackerngymsmoke, if a ftp server is firewalled it needs more ports both on the client and server side opened for traffic to work properly06:45
coincoinI want to have it like in the older versions06:45
mutantegymsmoke: ftp uses 20 and 2106:45
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mutanteone for data ,one for control06:45
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gymsmokeslackern: i'm the only user, and both 20 and 21 are open06:45
slackerngymsmoke, and the client connecting?06:46
coincoinis there a .conf file to configure nautilus06:46
coincoin?06:46
mutanteif more needs to be open depends, if its passive mode or not06:46
Dr_Williscoincoin,  now ya know one the reasons i dislike gnome so much.06:46
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slackerngymsmoke, http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html maybe that will explain it a bit.06:46
gymsmokeslackern: is me from ubuntu 5.10... i'm running firestarter, and the outbound traffic policy is permissive by default06:46
lwizardis there a website to find names for linux veriants of windows apps?06:46
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BoD[] my god06:46
BoD[] when you do sudo passwd, it says "password:" ... it means the new password or the old one ?06:46
Dr_Williscoincoin,  there may be a way to set it back to the address type bar permently. but ive never seen it mentioned anywhere.06:46
coincoinyou are on KDE Dr_Willis ?06:46
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Kyrallwizard: like?06:46
Dr_Williscoincoin,  yep - i tend to use KDE.06:46
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gymsmokeslackern: and this was working up until this morning06:47
KyralKDE is nice..06:47
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_jasoncoincoin: there is a gconf-editor setting for that06:47
gymsmokeslackern: the only change i've made is to add the russian mail server to my iptables to drop06:47
coincoinyou have searched it Dr_Willis ?06:47
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lwizardKyral, one app is called "grabit!"06:47
_jasoncoincoin: the nautilus on dapper actually has that as an option in its preferences but in breezy I'm not sure06:47
Kyrallwizard: what does it do?06:47
coincoingconf-editor on the cmd line06:47
coincoin?06:47
_jasonNoUse: yes06:47
_jasoncoincoin: yes06:47
_jasonNoUse: sorry :006:47
Dr_Williscoincoin,  since i tend to use KDE.. i dont mess with the gnome config editor stuff much06:47
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lwizardKyral, usenet application for reading and downloading06:48
coincoinyes I know this app but I have searched the option but I have nerver found it06:48
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Kyrallwizard: seeing as usenet has been along as long as Unix...just search the Apt Repos for "usenet" :P06:48
marcviva el sevilla06:48
lwizard?06:48
_jasoncoincoin: /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry06:49
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Kyrallwizard: you know how to search for packages yes?06:49
simpand another question... with ubuntu can you choose do you wan't to use KDE or Gnome, because in sometimes i like to use KDE and sometimes i like Gnome, don't know how this happend, propably because of redhat :)06:49
coincointhanks you06:49
coincoin_jason06:49
lwizardKyral, i know apt-get install06:49
BoD[] MY GOD I just killed my linux :(06:49
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marcsomeone from spain?06:49
Kyrallwizard: learn apt-cache search :P06:49
bbrazil!es06:49
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:49
NoUsesimp just install both and you can select which one you want with session menu on the login screen06:49
BoD[] by typing "enter" too fast06:49
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Kyralsimp: you can use either or, or XFCE, or Fluxbox, or....06:50
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simpokei, i thought that i have to have 2 operating systems :)06:50
coincoinyes it worked very well thank you _jason06:50
_jasoncoincoin: np06:50
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coincoinsorry for my english I am french06:50
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LadyNikonsorry for my english I am american06:50
Kyralsimp: I've had Fluxbox, KDE, GNOME, Enlightenment, and XFCE installed at the same time06:50
voraistoshey anybody knows a good replacement for skype ?06:50
Kyrallol @ LadyNikon06:50
LadyNikonfluxbox rules the world!06:50
simpokey :)06:50
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coincoinbut skype works very well on ubuntu no ?06:51
voraistosnope06:51
voraistosnot really06:51
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simpcoincoin only thing i know in french is bonjour casser oui etc... :P06:51
KyralEkiga is good, or so I have heard06:51
gymsmokeslackern: ok, i ran ftp -d on the connection from commandline06:51
coincoinyou have the latest version of it ?06:51
voraistosyea06:51
simphave to learn french at school06:51
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coincoinok simp06:51
voraistosand skype usually takes a lot of band06:51
gymsmokeslackern: ftp: setsockopt: Bad file descriptor06:51
malachihello06:51
Kyralvoraistos: any VOIP will do that06:51
voraistosskype does more than gnome meeting06:52
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malachidoes anyone know how to setup wanadoo wireless in ubuntu?06:52
coincoinok sorry I do not know replacement for it !06:52
gymsmokeslackern:then, after i'm logged in, 'ls' produces - ftp: setsockopt (ignored): Permission denied06:52
coincoinyou are french malachi06:52
coincoin?06:52
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voraistoswanadoo is in england ;)06:52
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coincoinI did not know that06:53
malachicoincoin: no, i'm not06:53
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slackerngymsmoke, oh the problem is on localhost connections too?06:53
malachicoincoin: can you help me?06:53
gymsmokeslackern:i have 2 other ubuntu boxes that i'm trying the connection from - both remote06:53
coincoinyes I can try you have the livebox ?06:54
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malachicoincoin: yes06:54
coincoinyou have a WEP key ?06:55
malachicoincoin: i have everything06:55
slackerngymsmoke, can you ftp from the same machine as the server is running on? like 'ftp localhost'06:55
malachicoincoin: but, i can't connect my laptop to the network06:55
pike_gymsmoke: i got that when i tried to setup ftp on nonstandard ports.  you can always use openssh-server instead of ftp06:55
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coincoinwith the wifi ? you have configured your wireless card on your laptop ?06:56
PrimoTurboWhy the new dapper boot logo so ugly?06:56
malachicoincoin: my card is detected06:56
slackernPrimoTurbo, hehe i was asking myself that very same thing today :)06:56
malachicoincoin: but, when i try to connect, dhcp doesn't work06:57
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gymsmokeslackern: i'll try it06:57
gymsmokepike_: how can you transfer files that way?06:57
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gymsmokei just tried ftp / passive , from the client... same effect06:58
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slackerngymsmoke, you can transfer files via ssh using the scp command06:58
coincointry this : you may have two buttons on your livebox marked 1 and 206:58
pike_well i just install openssh-server and then from command line 'sftp ipaddress'06:58
slackernand what pike just said :)06:58
coincoinpush the "1" button06:58
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coincoinand after that try to get your ip via dhcp06:58
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gymsmokeslackern: works06:59
zednetomg06:59
malachicoincoin: link to my card info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/138606:59
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gymsmokeslackern: ftp 127.0.0.1 is ok06:59
zednetautojoin to ubuntu o.O06:59
slackerngymsmoke, hmm i have no other ideas then other than read on how passive/active transfers work and make sure all the correct ports are opened and allowed for both server and clients.07:00
malachicoincoin: link to my card info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386407:01
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gymsmokeslackern: it worked until this morning07:01
coincoini am looking at it07:01
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gymsmokeslackern: the only change was to add a drop for the russian mail server07:01
slackerngymsmoke, have you tried removing that rule?07:01
gymsmokeslackern: i guess i have to07:02
Gizmo_The_GreatHi all. Anyone know how to set up WPA Wireless encryption with Ubuntu?. I've read both these How To and I get errors with both...07:02
Gizmo_The_Greathttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto07:02
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Gizmo_The_Greathttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html07:02
shutdownHello everybody... I am Shutdown and I am 16. I come from Italy. Is there any Italian?07:02
coincoindo you have try pushing the "1" button ?07:02
gymsmokeslackern: -A INPUT -s 194.67.23.0/24 -j DROP07:02
NoUse!it07:02
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:02
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JurgeniI have a problem with time zone, I can't make it to stay on the zone I want (Europe/Helsinki), every time I look it it's Europe/Marienhamn although I changed it07:02
gymsmokeslackern: doesn't look like it should effect anything near 209.208 ... anything, does it?07:03
simpif i remmember right then estonia/helsinki/marienhamn were the same timezone?07:03
malachicoincoin: dmesg log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386607:03
slackerngymsmoke, no it doesn't but im not quite sure since im not all that into iptables :)07:03
simp!est07:03
ubotusimp: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:03
simp:)07:03
Gizmo_The_GreatHi all. Anyone know how to set up WPA Wireless encryption with Ubuntu?. I've read both these How To and I get errors with both...07:04
slackerngymsmoke, but if thats the only thing that changed i would check it out though.07:04
Gizmo_The_Greathttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html07:04
malachicoincoin: i've tried pushing the "1" utton07:04
Gizmo_The_Greathttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto07:04
shutdownHello, _jason!!07:04
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malachicoincoin: the "1" utton doesn't help07:04
gymsmokeslackern: yeah, i guess i'll remove it and see reload the ruleset and see what that does07:04
slackerngymsmoke, but the thing that you could connect with clients but just not list sounds like the regular passive/active problem to me.07:04
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Gizmo_The_GreatIs it fair to say that no one can help regarding the WPA at the moment?07:05
Dr_WillisGizmo_The_Great,  ive totally given up on wireless .... again. :P lol07:06
Gizmo_The_Greatlol07:06
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pike_why encrypt it will just be cracked?07:06
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Dr_WillisMy router can block based on MAC. wich is nice...07:07
Dr_Willisbut i never have gotten wireless working with linux, in a reliable fashion.07:07
Jurgeniis it normal that Firestarter doesn't apply the rules I have made with it until I start the GUI?07:07
Dr_Willisactually its very Unrelisable under windows as well.07:07
Gizmo_The_GreatDr_Willis, in my case it's seen the card OK (but as eth1) but I can't configure it to work with WPA (it seems to have WEP built in but not WPA) and the installation of wpasupplicant has not helped07:07
Dr_WillisGizmo_The_Great,  many of the oklder wireless card can do WEP but not WPA07:07
Gizmo_The_GreatWPA is very hard to crACK07:07
Dr_WillisGizmo_The_Great,  i have an old Laptop card that can only do WEP07:08
felipe_Someone is using my nick can I identify myself with the nickserv so I can get my nick back?07:08
Gizmo_The_GreatAaah, the laptop is about 3 years old. I wonder if that is it07:08
Dr_WillisGizmo_The_Great,  that would be my guess07:08
malachiwhat does this mean: "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready"07:08
Gizmo_The_Greatdarn it to hell07:08
coincoinmalachi: when have you this msg ?07:08
NoUsefelipe_ you can only do that if you've already registered07:09
Dr_WillisHeh - gee was i actually able to Help? :P wow.07:09
felipe_NoUse, I'm already registered07:09
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malachicoincoin: after connection has failed07:09
Gizmo_The_GreatDr_Willis, cheers07:09
NoUsefelipe_ /msg NickServ help07:09
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rasihi07:09
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rasihi to all07:09
Gizmo_The_Greatmalachi, means your wirless link is not ready or working i think07:09
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felipe_NoUse, OK07:10
rasiyeah i've a question. could any1 answer me pls?07:10
malachiGizmo_The_Great: how do i fix it?07:10
NoUserasi have you asked your question?07:10
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rasii have xine in ubuntu. I've installed the latest version. But there is no sound during the video runtime.07:11
felipe_NoUse, can I change my nick without disconnecting?07:11
NoUsefelipe_ I'm not sure07:12
NoUsefelipe_ oh, yeah /nick nickname07:12
felipe_NoUse, thanks07:12
coincoinmalachi: you have a button on your laptop to set your wireless card up ???07:12
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NoUserasi check the xine settings for which sound output system its using, try esd or alsa07:12
felipe__NoUse, thanks again07:12
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malachicoincoin: it's a PCMCIA card.07:13
gymsmokeslackern: no change... i'm gonna reboot this box and see what's up  -- brb07:13
MetaMorfoziShanybody has an idea what about the macromedia flashplayer in the future?07:13
tchizeHello everyone07:13
tchizeI need to find docs on how to configure wifi in command line, does somebody have pointers?07:13
coincoinmalachi: have you try with a static ip ?07:13
malachicoincoin: how do i set that up?07:14
coincoinmalachi: in the cmd line type this07:14
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coincoinmalachi: your card is eth0, eth1 or other ?07:15
tchizeok, please private message me if you have links to docs about wifi configuration in command line on ubuntu, the official docs are quite badly navigatable and it's impossible to find something there unfortunately07:15
tchizethank you :)07:15
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malachicoincoin: wlan007:15
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coincoinmalachi : ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.69 netmask 255.255.255.0 up07:16
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coincoinmalachi: and then try a ping 192.168.1.107:17
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coincointo ping the livebox07:17
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coincoinand tell me the result07:18
DrBanzaiDoes ubuntu support removable USB drives out of the box, or do I have to enable/install that?07:18
spikebDrBanzai: yes it does07:19
samuliin theory anyways and I guess most of the times in practice too.07:19
ronlybonlymine have worked without fail07:20
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DrBanzaispikeb, Ok, do you think you might be able to help me?  I've got an MP3 player and an external hard drive, neither of which will work for me07:20
spikebhmm07:20
spikebDrBanzai: probably not - haven't had any problems myself, so i dont know how to fix them07:20
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malachicoincoin: it's going on and on and on...07:20
DrBanzaispikeb, Ok, thanks anyway...07:20
ronlybonlyspiked, what version of ubuntu are you runing?07:21
Alcidesespaol07:21
malachicoincoin: "64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=196 ttl=255 time=1.94 ms07:21
malachi"07:21
coincoinmalachi: so that's good07:21
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coincoinmalachi: you are pinging your livebox with your wifi card07:21
eeoshi there07:21
malachicoincoin: how long will i take?07:22
eeoshi there07:22
coincointype CTRL+C07:22
malachicoincoin: *it07:22
eeosdo you know if there are drivers for the agere ethernet controller et-13x in ubuntu?07:22
coincoinmalachi: now push the "1" button to have the wireless DEL on your livebox blinking07:22
coincoinmalachi: and on the cmd line type : ifconfig wlan0 down07:23
coincoinmalachi: and : dhclient wlan007:23
coincoinmalachi: and tell me what you get07:23
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malachicoincoin: "DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval ...."07:25
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coincoinmalachi: and ...07:25
PrimoTurboWhat's a good place to install applications, for example swiftfox07:25
malachicoincoin: "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping."07:25
PrimoTurbosomewhere where the user has rights and can update a file07:26
MetaMorfoziSPrimoTurbo: /opt/something07:26
PrimoTurbo/opt/ doesn't seem to work07:26
MetaMorfoziSoh07:26
PrimoTurboneeds root07:26
coincoinmalachi: type CTRL+C and still on the cmd line : ifconfig wlan0 down07:26
MetaMorfoziSyes07:26
MetaMorfoziS..07:26
PrimoTurbosomething without root07:26
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MetaMorfoziSbut you can add to afolder07:26
MetaMorfoziSthe good permissions07:26
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coincoinmalachi: and go to System => Administration => network07:26
MetaMorfoziSor if it for only one user07:26
PrimoTurboyeah 1 user07:27
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MetaMorfoziS/home/user/sg07:27
coincoinselect wlan0 and then properties07:27
MetaMorfoziSor if you want07:27
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MetaMorfoziSmake a folder named "progz" @ Desktop07:27
MetaMorfoziSand all other programs isntalled to that dir07:27
coincoinselect enable this connection07:27
DrBanzaispikeb, Ah ha!  Apparently, ubuntu dosen't like my USB hub or something...if I plug it straight in, it sees it fine07:27
coincoinDHCP07:27
gymsmokeslackern: no go... i think the ftp prob is coming from the clients07:27
PrimoTurboA folder under Home should be fine right?07:27
PrimoTurbofor 1 user anyways07:27
coincoinand type your WEP key07:27
MetaMorfoziSyes07:27
PrimoTurboalright thanks07:27
coincointhen OK07:27
MetaMorfoziSit's right anywhere..07:27
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coincoinAnd Activate07:28
MetaMorfoziSnot at all07:28
malachicoincoin: is key type hexadecimal?07:29
Dingocan anyone recommend me a torrent downloader (except azureus) that can download individual files?07:29
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coincoinmalachi : yes07:29
malachicoincoin: configuration = DHCP?07:29
coincoinyes07:29
MetaMorfoziSDingo why azureus not good?07:29
MetaMorfoziSbut i think you need google07:29
MetaMorfoziS:D07:29
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DingoMetaMorfoziS: it is quite heavy and makes games get slow!07:30
thoreauputicwhat's wrong with the gnome defaul torrent client?07:30
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thoreauputic8default07:30
MetaMorfoziSyes it's true, because it's written in java:)07:30
MetaMorfoziS+"bittorent client" +"for linux"07:31
MetaMorfoziS^^ google?07:31
gymsmokeslackern: there is no firewall turned on atm on the client07:31
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naomii'm trying to download msn games from the internet onto my laptop, but i cant open it once it has downloaded, does anyone know whats goin on?07:31
beerockxsdoes a free pdf plugin for mozilla exist? And I mean free as in speech, not as in beer.07:31
malachicoincoin: what next?07:31
spikebnaomi: they're windows only07:32
coincoinchoose "validate" or "ok"07:32
coincoinIn french it is "Valider"07:32
MetaMorfoziSi'm not know about the default gnome client, but i think you may try it:)07:32
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naomihas anyone got any good game sites that i can use?07:32
thoreauputicbeerockxs: not sure but I think it's possible to embed evince in firefox (I don't bother)07:32
malachicoincoin: what happens now?07:32
spikebnaomi: well, any place that lets you play online instead of downloading is a good start07:32
gymsmokeiptables-restore < filename will load the ruleset in filename, right ?07:33
MetaMorfoziSnaomi: www.linuxgamers.net07:33
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coincoinclic on the activate button to activate your connection07:33
MetaMorfoziSor something ismilar, iiirc07:33
malachicoincoin: after validating07:33
naomithanks :)07:33
coincoinclic the activate button07:33
thoreauputicMetaMorfoziS: the defult torrent client opens when you click a torrent file in ff07:33
MetaMorfoziShttp://www.linuxgames.com/07:33
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MetaMorfoziSthoreauputic: for me it's not important:D07:33
malachicoincoin: it shows "wlan0 is active"07:33
coincoinok clic the validate button or ok button07:34
coincoinand launch firefox with a www.google.com07:34
thoreauputicMetaMorfoziS: OK - well anyway it seems to work fine for me :)07:34
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coincointo try if you have internet07:34
MetaMorfoziS:)07:34
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manuxhello ...some one know how i can change permission to read for a folder and all his subfolders and files ??07:35
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TonrenHey all... I'm trying to get an Ubuntu Breezy Live CD running on my HP Compaq Presario v2565us (v2000 series), and everything goes fine until it starts loading GNOME.  I get an X11 error and it says it "caught error 11" from the server.  Any ideas?07:35
spikebhmm07:35
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X3n0nhello! does anyone have the Ati X1300 drivers properly installed on his computer? I mean with 3d acceleration07:36
coincoinmalachi: it works ?????07:36
NoUsex3n0n have you tried the wiki instructions?07:36
X3n0nyes but sais no screens found07:36
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coincoinX3n0n : I was unable to get the 3D acc with the latest ati proprietary drivers07:37
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X3n0nyou have that video card?07:37
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coincoinno but a friend of mine yes and we had to install an older version to get the 3D acc07:37
X3n0ncan you please help me? i am desparate!07:38
X3n0ni need your help07:38
simpdesperate* ?:)07:38
X3n0nlol07:38
simpif it isn't some american english stuff again?:)07:39
SeveasX3n0n, are you using breezy?07:39
X3n0nyes 5.1007:39
Seveaswon't work, try dapper07:39
SeveasX1300 is too new for breezy07:39
X3n0nreally?07:39
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Seveasyes07:39
X3n0ni have to update?07:39
TonrenHey, where can I download Dapper Live & Install ISOs?07:39
X3n0nupgrade*07:39
SeveasTonren, cdimage.ubuntu.com07:39
Tonrenthanks07:39
SeveasX3n0n, yes07:39
coincoindo you speak french X3n0n because my friend did a tuto but in french at : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1383207:40
coincoinSeveas tell us how to install this evil driver ?07:40
X3n0ncoincoin: not even a word!07:40
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NoUsex3n0n try this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide07:40
coincoinmalachi: does it work ?07:40
mabuswhere can I download dapper?07:40
thoreauputic!dapper07:41
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)07:41
X3n0nNoUse: have you tried it and works with X1300?07:41
Seveascoincoin, fglrx? sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$YOURARCH && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:41
TonrenWhat's the difference between Flight 6 and Flight 7?07:41
thoreauputicmabus: cdimage.ubuntu.com07:41
mabushttp://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/ubuntu/iso/dapper/ubuntu-6.06-beta2-install-i386.iso == dapper?07:41
NoUsex3n0n I stopped buying ATI cards after my experience with their linux support07:41
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thoreauputicTonren: flight 7 is more recent07:41
SeveasTonren, flight 7 is newer07:41
nicolasitoHello, Is it possible to enter to login Gnome as other user, being the administrator, without the other user's password07:41
nicolasitoHello, Is it possible to enter to login Gnome as other user, being the administrator, without the other user's password??07:41
Tonrenfair enough07:41
beerockxsthanks thoreauputic, that works07:41
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X3n0ni have tried this also but no help....i update now07:41
NoUsex3n0n but the drivers in breezy don't support your card, so you need to install the latest drivers via that page07:41
Seveasnicolasito, no need to repeat...07:42
coincoinyou don't understand the packet to install07:42
Seveasand no, that is not posible07:42
nicolasitoseveas, sorry07:42
coincoin???07:42
Seveasyou can try sudo -u07:42
TonrenYou can still install from Live CDs, right?  They're not just 'trials"?07:42
coincoinSeveas: how to install this evil driver ?????07:42
SeveasTonren, as of Dapper, you can install from the live CD07:43
X3n0nwish me good luck! i begin upgrading to dapper!07:43
Seveasbut you will ned the latest daily (newer than flight 707:43
Tonrencool07:43
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nicolasitoSeveas, I need to access to an user account to config his emule, how can I do it?07:43
TonrenSeveas: is that in /daily?07:43
mabusSince dapper is coming out soon... is it a waste to download the iso now? Should I just wait 2 weeks so I don't have to download it again?07:44
X3n0nused this command: gksudo "update-manager -d"07:44
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X3n0nis it correct?07:44
TonrenSeveas: /daily-live/current/ ?07:44
Seveasnicolasito, sudo -H -u user whatever_command_you_want_to_run07:44
SeveasTonren, yes07:44
SeveasX3n0n, yes07:44
ubuntubonjour a tous07:44
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Seveasmabus, you can simply update daily07:44
nicolasitoseveas thanks!07:44
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mabusSeveas: So that will leave me with more updates to do every install then, right?07:45
X3n0nhow many mb do i download?07:45
Seveasmabus, what do you mean?07:45
SeveasX3n0n, lots07:45
gymsmokeis there a separate ip_conntrack_ftp for iptables under ubuntu ?07:45
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X3n0nmore than a GB07:45
Seveasno07:45
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Seveasunless you already installed a lot on breezy07:45
mabusSeveas: If I download the dapper cd now, and in 2 weeks the release comes out and there are some changes between now and then, I will have to download those changes any time I install from my pre-release cd.07:45
Seveasmy latest dist-upgrade was 700-something MB07:45
Absenthis there a wiki, or how-to out there for turning on, and configuring snmp in ubuntu?07:46
Seveasmabus, correct07:46
X3n0ni feel lucky i have a dsl connection!!!07:46
Seveashehe07:46
echobinary.....  so i sez to dis guy..  "Hey! Get Ubuntu!"07:46
mabusSeveas: thanks07:46
AbsenthX3n0n: once Dapper goes live, I'll be seeding the torrent download with one of the machines in our datacenter with a 10mbps link.07:46
Dr_WillisAbsenth,  i though ya just downloaded the SNMP kernel.07:47
AbsenthDr_Willis: could be...  I'd like to read a bit about it before jumping in with both feet is all.07:47
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echobinaryanyone have the experience where thier nvidia card works for openGL direct rendering but not 3D acceleration?07:47
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Dr_WillisAbsenth,  Blasphmy! :P07:47
X3n0njust failed!!!07:47
AbsenthDr_Willis: if it was at home, I'd leap, and then look, but this one happens to be in our office :/07:48
X3n0ncouldn't download some files!07:48
HackerGatessi07:48
Dr_WillisAbsenth,  bah! :P req a new machine!07:48
gymsmokewhat's the command to see whether or not a module exists and can be loaded ?07:48
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AbsenthDr_Willis: there's an idea :)07:48
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Absenth2way dual core Opteron, in 32bit should work nicely eh?07:49
sneexIve bbuild apache Flood for Ubuntu breezy badger 5.1 -- its not in the multi-verse -- how can  add it?07:49
Dr_WillisAbsenth,  that would be on for a torrent server. :P07:49
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St_Ironhello07:49
X3n0nis there a key combination such as alt + F4 in windows?07:49
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echobinaryyes07:49
echobinarywindoes has that key combo07:49
echobinarywindows*07:50
Absenthactually I'll be seeding the dapper torrent with a 2.8ghz Xeon, on a 10mbps full duplex link.07:50
X3n0nbut what is the key combination in ubuntu?07:50
echobinaryalt + F4 too07:50
sneextry it?07:50
echobinaryi believe07:50
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AbsenthX3n0n: I usually open a terminal and kill -907:50
X3n0nno such luck07:50
AbsenthX3n0n: but I'm a massichist07:50
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HackerGatesciao07:51
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X3n0ni can't close the upgrade utility which is frozen!07:51
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sneexCtrl-Alt-Esc creates the Skull Window dialog killer07:51
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X3n0nit does not bring it...07:53
NoUsex3n0n from a console run 'sudo killall update-manager'07:53
X3n0ni try that07:53
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gymsmokeanyone know the difference between ip_conntrack_ftp and ip_conntrack_tftp ?07:53
sneextrivial ftp07:53
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miguelsrhey how do i install my printer is a lexmark z61507:53
X3n0nno process killed07:54
gymsmokesneex: so in order to allow proftpd traffic, the module to load is ip_conntrack_ftp07:54
sneexok07:54
gymsmokesneex: ok, as in - yes, or ok, as in - i don't know07:55
sneexsorry07:55
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Donovanuhh im going to sound like a real idiot here, I'm sure...but can anyone tell me where the DCC received files folder is on ubuntu? (using xchat of course)07:55
NoUsemiguelsr system -> admin -> printing07:55
sneexit shod work as tftp also, whats the issue?07:55
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m6shello07:56
miguelsrNoUse: yes but my printer is not by default07:56
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m6sI installed ubunty amd64, and I am trying to figure out how to burn a dvd07:56
sneexgymsmoke?  is proftpd not working?07:56
NoUsemiguelsr click on 'new printer' and add it07:56
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m6sI installed gnomebaker, but fails to continue after I say 'create' :-(07:56
m6sas far fro xcdroast, through me a message that I need a prodvd thing07:57
miguelsrNoUse: it dont apear my model only lexmark but not the same model07:57
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m6swhich I did, apt-get install but..../dev/null07:57
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gymsmokesneex: no07:57
m6sany clue?07:57
OldA good ftp server for ubuntu server? - I heard there's problems (alot of problems) with the default config, if anyone could link a config aswell.07:57
NoUsemiguelsr try something close07:57
gymsmokesneex: i get errors from the client about the sock ...07:57
sneexis that a no, because it wont start or a no because you cant connect>07:57
sneexkk07:57
OldA good ftp server for ubuntu server? - I heard there's problems (alot of problems) with the default config, if anyone could link a config aswell.07:58
NoUsemiguelsr you might need drivesr from lexmark07:58
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sneexapache flood07:58
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miguelsryes i download  CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR.gz07:58
miguelsr but dosnot work07:58
serphow do I mount a memory card reader?07:59
NoUsemiguelsr did you follow the wiki instructions?07:59
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gymsmokesneex: connects to the server ok, but get sockopt errors - it's definitely iptables relates07:59
khaladanI am trying to get the program tiff2png but I can not seem to find any package for it.07:59
khaladanDoes anyone know where I can get a package for this program?07:59
NoUsemiguelsr https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkZ60508:00
sneexhave you tried ip_conntrack_ftp ?08:00
gymsmokesneex: i had to shut iptables down completely to get ftp to work08:00
gymsmokesneex: im loading ip_conntrack_ftp to see if that improves it any08:00
miguelsrNoUse: thaks08:00
sneexyou running firstarter?08:00
sneexfirestarter*08:01
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Absenthkhaladan: I found a gif2png package....08:01
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gymsmokesneex: with or without, it doesn't make a difference08:01
Absenthkhaladan: from the command prompt :sudo apt-cache search tiff2png08:01
sneexno, gymsmoke, I am asking did you use firestarter to set up iptables ?08:01
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gymsmokesneex: not on the server, no08:02
khaladanAbsenth, it came up with nothing08:02
lkj1Is there a way to update from Whorey Hedgehog to Dapper Drake or Edgy Eft without donwloading/burning new cd?08:02
gymsmokesneex: there isn't a gui on the server08:02
ism720i download ubuntu last night on win98, check properties from download manager which says locations is windows/temp/ubuntu, but it's not there.unable to create cd.download again?08:02
sneexok08:02
sneexbrb08:02
Absenthkhaladan: I noticed.  searching tiff conversion finds....08:02
Absenthkhaladan libtiff-tools, libtiff-opengl, and apsfilter08:02
m6sany change? someone may know something about dvd-burning software?08:03
m6sapart k3b?08:03
Absenthkhaladan: not as easy I suppose, but you could always open the tiff in gimp, and "save as"08:03
lkj1Is there a way to update from horey Hedgehog to Dapper Drake or Edgy Eft without donwloading/burning new cd?08:03
khaladanyeah i gotta convert thousands of tiffs so... that woudl suck :(08:03
spikeblkj1: yeah08:04
lkj1How should I go about it, spikeb?08:04
Absenthkhaladan: you might search for a .deb and install it manually.08:04
NoUseism720 do a search in windows for *.iso08:04
spikeblkj1: just a second, pulling up the page iwth instructions for you08:04
Absenthkhaladan: if that fails, build from source?08:04
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lkj1khaladan: imgmagick might be able to batch convert the images08:04
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spikeblkj1:  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .08:05
ankouhola, alguien me puede ayudar08:05
stone_hello everyone. i need assistance installing Ubuntu 5.10 on my Powerbook G3. my CD drive won't boot CDs. is there an alternative method?08:05
irenawhere are located files for conf. automount for ex. usb disk?08:06
khaladanimagemagick can convert it, but it is SUPER slow. it's a huge tiff.08:06
ankoualguien que hable espaol me puede ayudar?08:06
ompaullkj1, you have to go through the steps of each version in the middle, you can only get to dapper at this stage there is no useful work done on edgy eft to make it installable yet, and you would be tracking the software from unstable to stable so not a good idea08:06
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Centaur5ankou: Hay personas que hablan espanol en #ubuntu-es08:07
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Absenthlkj1: /etc/apt/sources.list  you modify your sources to look at the dapper, or whatever, and then sudo apt-get update, sudp apt-get dist-upgrade08:07
Absenths/sudp/sudo08:07
Absenththen come back in an hour or so.  :)08:07
sneexgymsmoke, try allow-ftp  21  --  anywhere             anywhere08:07
lkj1Thanks!08:07
n00bixis there like a queue to axe questions here?08:07
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gymsmokesneex: ports 20 and 21 are on in the ruleset08:07
sneexyep08:07
sneexkk08:07
ompaulism720,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto <--- that might help08:07
Jowistone_: i'm not a mac user and have never owned a mac, but i found an alternative key combination for booting cds: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2004/10/msg00062.html08:07
gymsmokesneex: i just did insmod ip_conntrack_ftp to see if that would help08:08
sneexip_conntrack_ftp should also allo "related" so unless your cleint is using PASV08:08
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sneexallow*08:08
gymsmokesneex: and it doesn;t08:08
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ism720NoUse: found five files one in windows/temp 0KB size08:08
ompauln00bix, ask see if someone answers - if no answer wait 10-15 mins ask again because someone may not have the answer you need at the moment *and* ask the channel as a whole not one person08:08
sneexsee if you can force the proftpd server in PASV mode08:08
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ism720ompaul: thx08:08
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NoUseism720 then it didn't download properly08:08
ompaulism720, yw08:08
stone_Jowi: can you please prvmsg that to me?08:08
sneexgymsmoke, please join me in #proftpd OK08:09
NoUseism720 can you use bittorrent?08:09
gymsmokesneex: ok08:09
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ism720NoUse: no08:09
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ism720NoUse: will use dif mirror08:10
n00bixoh, well i'm a total linux n00b and just wondering how i can write to folders i don't have access to without using command line08:10
NoUseism720 make sure you "save as" and don't let windows save it to temp08:10
_jasonn00bix: what kind of folders?08:10
ompauln00bix, if you don't have access to a folder there is more than likely a good reason for it, what are you trying to do08:11
n00bix/usr/lib/win3208:11
OldAnyone got know a good ftp server? And where to get a config for it aswell?08:11
n00bixtrying to install codecs for kaffeine08:11
ism720thx NoUse08:11
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ompauln00bix, to do that read the instructions here wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or check out easyubuntu in #easyubuntu08:11
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n00bixi created the folder using sudo -s in terminal, but can't extract files in gnome08:12
OldAnyone got know a good ftp server? And where to get a config for it aswell?08:12
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ompaulalapzaj[AWAY] , TURN THAT OFF NOW!08:12
Old?ftp08:12
lkj1Does Dapper have WPA supplicant allready set up?08:12
n00bixah thanks ompaul08:12
paradizelostOld: i usually use ProFTPD08:12
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roryyOld: try !ftp08:12
ompaullkj1, dapper in #ubuntu+1 for conversations08:12
ompaullkj1, thats the dapper channel08:13
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sp3ttI think my altgr key is broken.08:13
sp3ttAt least in java.08:13
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tanaththat little ubuntu splash screen that comes up when i log in doesn't go away... unless i click it08:14
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freezeyi need some help setting up ethereal.. if anyone can assist08:14
tanathwhat's up with that?08:14
sp3ttYes, it is java...08:14
paradizelosttanath: that sounds like you may have a bug08:14
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paradizelostsomething starting up possibly that it's waiting for08:14
sp3tttoo bad my favorite editor is written in java!08:14
paradizelostdo you have it save the session?08:15
ompaulsp3tt, so report a bug08:15
Absenthfreezey: setting up ethereal?  as in, sudo apt-get install ethereal?08:15
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Absenthfreezey: or, configuring your filter string?08:15
tanathparadizelost: it's on 'update notifier'08:15
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freezeyabsenth: configuring and just gettin it up and running08:15
freezeyabsenth: i was reading the doc but i need to get it done faster so i wanna talk to someone who can do it08:16
tanathparadizelost: update notifier is running...08:16
sp3ttjava version "1.4.2-02"08:16
OldAnyone got know a good ftp server? And where to get a config for it aswell?08:16
sp3ttIs there a newer version...?08:16
Absenthfreezey: from a command line....  sudo apt-get install ethereal      will install it.08:16
glupotaI put new silicon paste on my processor and now my computer doesn't want do com up It beeps and smells like burning08:16
freezeyabsenth: i have it already08:16
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freezeyabsenth: i have to configure it to get it running08:16
Absenthfreezey: from there, just select eth0 or eth1 and tell it to capture.08:16
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glupotaHave I put  too much paste?08:16
Oldanyone, seriously?08:16
matheushello08:17
OldI though this was a support channel, I maybe missread the topic.08:17
freezeyabsenth: i need it to monitor my mail server on my windows network08:17
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Absenthfreezey: unless you want a specific filter applied.  I usually capture everything though, and then parse it apart later.08:17
freezeyabsenth: how do i do that08:17
paradizelostglupota: possibly, or you didn't make proper contact08:17
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freezeyabsenth: i just want to capture my mail server thats all08:17
JowiOld: proftpd is solid and easy to configure.08:17
Absenthfreezey: on a switched network?  is the mail server the machine running ethereal?08:17
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matheusIm trying ubuntu... and I install skype (that use qt)... and I wanna now how to modify qt aparence...08:17
OldJowi, thanks - but the default config is all messed up, you got a good config for it perhaps08:17
Old?08:17
freezeyabsenth: no08:17
freezeyabsenth: my linux machine is runnin ethereal08:18
glupotawhat contact?  I palced all cables where they were before08:18
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JowiOld: i post mine in the pastebin, hold on08:18
Absenthfreezey: switched network, or using a hub.08:18
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paradizelostglupota: heatsink to the CPU contact08:18
Oldcheers jow08:18
OldJowi08:18
freezeyabsenth: switch08:18
paradizelostdid you turn it on at all w/o the heatsink on?08:18
freezeyabsenth: or if possible can i monitor the entire thing?08:19
freezeyabsenth: just my entire network all the pc's on it08:19
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matheushow to modify qt aparece ??? anyone now that ??08:19
matheusapparence08:19
PrimoTurboHow do I install xubuntu? In such a way so it can be removed with out any problems.08:19
Falstiusappearance08:19
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mrdnahas anyone been able to disable the system bells when going into sleep/suspend mode? I already disabled the bell in System>Preferences>Sound08:19
Absenthfreezey: I doubt you'll be able to capture much then.  since SMTP isn't broadcast.  the problem with switched networks (or really what makes them better) is that non-broadcast traffic is from source port, to destination port,  all other ports are unable to see the traffic.08:20
NoUsePrimoTurbo sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop08:20
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NoUsePrimoTurbo if you want to remove it, sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop08:20
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PrimoTurboalright thanks08:20
JowiOld: "DefaultRoot ~" make sure that the logged in user is locked into his/her home directory. if you don't want that, delete that line. here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386708:20
abelenola08:20
freezeyabsenth: my problem is my mail server was hijacked08:20
OldI cant seem to get the php5 to work correctly? anyone?08:20
glupotamy radiador is conected to power suply permanently08:20
freezeyabsenth: whoever put together this network did it poorly and i just started working here08:20
Oldapt-get install php5 - correct?08:20
Absenthfreezey: to monitor the mail servers traffic you either need to stick a hub in line to the mail server, and plug your ethereal box into the hub as well, OR have a managed switch, and configure a monitor port.08:20
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peeryhelp... anyone know how I can get emacs to use the font lucidatypewriter? Can't figure out how to get emacs to recognize it or even what package it's in08:21
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Absenthfreezey: if the mail server was hijacked, pull the ethernet cable out of it, run your forenzics, and then rebuild the box.08:21
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NoUse!tell Old about php08:21
definityhi08:21
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Absenthfreezey: #security and #networking will be able to offer a lot more assistance along those lines though.08:21
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MisterNhi08:22
Oldwhats the command to restart the webserver againA+08:22
Old?08:22
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NoUseOld sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart08:22
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AbsenthOld: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart?  I think.08:22
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AbsenthOld: NoUse: Whoo!  got it right :)08:23
ompaulfreezey, the only way to deal with a problem machine like that is get a new hard drive install afresh on that08:23
ompauland work from there08:23
ph1I deleted ./debian/changelog and now I can't compile a kernell because it sais that it has a different version08:23
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ph1any ideas?08:24
NoUseph1 where was the file you deleted?08:24
ph1NoUse: I deleted the changelog08:24
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ph1because I didn't want to use mykernel as version and it complained about it....now I can't choose any version08:25
definityhow can i brows graphical web pages on terminal08:25
Oldhow do i remove all of the php5 files, apache, and php4 ? I dont remember all the shit i've intalled, i know it's apt-get remove name, but still..08:25
Oldanyone ?08:25
definitylike normal www http sites08:25
paradizelostdefinity: links08:25
definitywith frames08:25
peeryanyone know what package I can install to get teh LucidaTypewriter font for emacs?08:25
paradizelostlinks or links208:25
paradizelostno pictures will show08:25
g0dchildHi, when i run my k3bsetup, i just get a blank window- why's that?08:25
paradizelostof course08:25
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paradizelostg0dchild: may need to be run as sudo k3bsetup08:26
definityk08:26
hikenboothello all---I seem to have a problem where tmp files are created under the wrong user id..heres the message....Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-hikenboot" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.08:26
hikenbootLink points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root".....anyone know how to fix this?08:26
Almindorhello, how do I make a "home net" (file copy etc.) between 2 linux boxes? (one ubuntu, other knoppix)08:26
g0dchildyeah- ran sudo k3bsetup as well as k3bsetup as root08:26
paradizelostAlmindor: scp08:26
NoUseph1 there are changelogs for every package in teh system, where did you delete it from?08:26
mutanteAlmindor: you can use scp, its like "cp",but over ssh08:26
paradizelost!scp08:26
ubotuscp is, like, totally, A way to copy files securely using ssh.  <file> <username>@<ipaddress>:<DestinationDirectory>08:26
AlmindorI know scp08:26
Almindortoo bulky08:26
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AlmindorI need something.. em "simple"08:26
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ph1NoUse: ./debian/changelog08:26
Almindorthink samba over linux08:26
definitycan i downlaod it from synaptic08:26
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OldShould i install apache, or apache2 ?08:27
mutanteAlmindor: NFS08:27
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paradizelostAlmindor: you could just nfs mount08:27
pike__Almindor: well you can use sshfs08:27
Jowidefinity: w3m (with w3m-img) an do that08:27
NoUseph1 thats a relative path, give me the path fom /08:27
AbsenthAlmindor: NFS or you could use SMB between the linux boxen08:27
OldShould i install apache, or apache2 ?08:27
Almindorah ok so with NFS you actualy mount "non-local" disks?08:27
Jowi!info w3m08:27
mutanteAlmindor: there is also ssh-fs, allowing to mount over ssh08:27
ubotuw3m: (WWW browsable pager with excellent tables/frames support), section text, is standard. Version: 0.5.1-3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1037 kB, Installed size: 1816 kB08:27
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ph1NoUse: Ah it's in the /usr/src/linux-2.6.16/08:27
simpeh, i have a question again08:27
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Almindorwhat is required for NFS?08:27
simpmy PC got stuck08:27
AbsenthAlmindor: yes,  with NFS you can mount a remote disk, to the local file system.08:27
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simpin the rescue mode08:28
NoUseph1 can you pastebin the error you are getting?08:28
AlmindorAbsenth, any limits on FS types?08:28
simpwill anything bad happen if i just do a hard reset?08:28
peeryanyone know what package I can install to get teh LucidaTypewriter font for emacs?08:28
paradizelostsimp08:28
paradizelostjust type exit08:28
simpyeah08:28
paradizelostand press enter08:28
paradizelostdo it over and over08:28
NoUse!tell ph1 about pastebin08:28
paradizelostyou should eventually get out08:28
simpok08:28
simpthank you08:28
AbsenthAlmindor: um,  I assume anything linux can read/write should be fine,  you'll need to adjust your fstab for the correct string.08:28
paradizelost172.16.0.9:/media/shareddata    /media/shareddata       nfs     proto=tcp,defaults 0 008:29
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paradizelostone of my nfs mounts08:29
AlmindorAbsenth, this is one timer08:29
Absenthr08:29
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OldJowi, did you past your config ?08:29
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AbsenthAlmindor: then, make sure your mount string has the correct fs type08:29
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AlmindorAbsenth, can you tell me "how" to mount and what is required on both ends?08:30
paradizelostthen   #  mount 1.2.3.4:/share/path    /mount/path -t nfs -o proto=tcp08:30
JowiYes Old: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386708:30
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peerycrap why does ubuntu not have any reasonible fonts from emacs2108:30
AbsenthAlmindor: see paradizelost....  he's posted it.08:30
JowiOld: "DefaultRoot ~" makes sure that the logged in user is locked into his/her home directory. if you don't want that, delete that line.08:30
simpthank you paradizelost08:30
paradizelostnp08:30
simp:)08:30
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simpand actualy i was stupid again08:30
Almindorthat looks like fstab entry :)08:31
Almindorhow do I do it one time?08:31
simpdidn't know that you could write anything08:31
Almindorthink read-only08:31
simpanyway thank you got my GRUB back08:31
paradizelostAlmindor: the first one is /etc/fstab08:31
simpbye bye08:31
Almindorah08:31
paradizelostthe second one was on CLI08:31
Almindorok I see it :)08:31
Almindorthanks08:31
Almindorand what about the "other" side?08:31
felipe__Anyone knows if I need to hava a sesion open to connect through vnc to a remote computer?08:31
AlmindorI guess I need to enable it somehow?08:31
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Jowifelipe__: nepends on which vnc server you are using08:32
Jowis/nepends/depends08:32
felipe__Jowi, the one that comes with ubuntu08:32
Jowifelipe__: then, yes08:32
OldI cant get php to work, pissing me off. If i try to link to a .php file it tries to download it.08:32
AbsenthAlmindor: I believe (been a while since I messed with NFS) you configure you're /etc/exports file08:32
matheusI have install xubuntu-desktop and now? :)08:32
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captineHi all.  Has anyone had experience installing a 3G or HSDPA pcmcia cards in their notebooks?  I can't find help on the internet i.e. general help08:33
Oldanyone?08:33
NoUseOld have you followed the wiki page ubotu sent you?08:33
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OldYes08:33
AlmindorAbsenth, ok, what about smbmount?08:33
Oldit didnt work, It's pissing me off08:33
AlmindorAbsenth, wouldn't it be better? :D08:33
paradizelostAlmindor: example NFS share08:33
OldI'll reboot the pc08:33
NoUseOld you missed a step08:33
captineand am wanting to know if ubuntu/linu has support for them, before purchaseing one08:33
paradizelostAlmindor: less reliable and lots of permission issues w/ smb between linux boxes08:33
felipe__Jowi, Could you tell me which other vnc server I could download so I dont need to have a session open to use remotely a ubuntu box?08:33
AbsenthAlmindor: that would be SMB, rather then NFS.  for unix to unix, I'd prefer NFS, but....08:33
OldNo NoUse, I didnt. I will try again though08:33
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Jowifelipe__: there are other vnc-servers that you do not need it though. like tightvnc. you can start a session remotely (by using ssh for example)08:34
Jowi!vnc08:34
ubotuvnc is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)08:34
tahorgOld: if you did not then it must work.08:34
AlmindorAbsenth, I hear there's "interoperability" issues :D08:34
AlmindorAbsenth, I'll give it a try tho08:34
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felipe__Jowi, Ok thanks08:34
Jowinp felipe__08:34
tahorgOld: restart apache08:34
AbsenthAlmindor: you're mounting a windows share to linux?08:34
Almindorwell yeah that or the other way08:35
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Oldtahorg, i get no answer when trying to restart the webserv.08:35
Oldim rebooting it now though08:35
Almindor(mounting a linux share to copy from windows partition)08:35
sp3ttWow, java 1.5 is much faster than 1.4...08:35
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lordalberthello08:35
lordalbertdoes ubuntu use pmount or hal+dbus ?108:36
lordalbert?!08:36
Absenthsp3tt: am I the only one who finds JAVA extremely annoying?08:36
sp3ttPossibly.08:36
paradizelostJAVA BAD08:36
tahorglordalbert: hal08:36
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paradizelost:D08:36
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Almindorheh java and fast08:36
Absenthsp3tt: things like,  app XYZ will only function with java version 1.4.2_10 or older.  but this other app I need requires 1.5.008:36
Almindorthat's an oxymoron08:36
sp3ttThat sucks.08:36
felipe__Jowi, is there .deb package for tight vnc?08:36
paradizelost!tightvnc08:36
ubotuparadizelost: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:36
paradizelost!vnc08:36
ubotuwell, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)08:36
Absenthsp3tt: At least in a windows world, java can fly off a bridge as far as I'm concerned.08:37
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Jowifelipe__: "sudo apt-get install tightvncserver"08:37
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simpokey, stupid me got back... is there any way i could use wireless with psk-TKIP encription in linux?08:38
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jksdis it OK to ask a general UNIX question in here?08:38
paradizelostjksd: just ask08:38
jksdalright08:38
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felipe__Jowi, thanks again08:38
Jowifelipe__: you can search for packages with apt-cache. if you wonder if the package exist or what its name is "apt-cache search -n vnc"08:38
jksdwell08:38
jksdwhat would be better for a shell server, solaris or red hat?08:39
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simpsolaris i think08:39
paradizelostredhat bad.08:39
paradizelost:D08:39
jksdis solaris OK for beginners?08:39
tahorgjksd: on sparc ?08:39
paradizelostthe M$ of linux08:39
paradizelostno08:39
jksdwhat's wrong with Red Hat?08:39
Almindorlol, solaris hehe08:39
felipe__Jowi, cook08:39
Almindorif you're on x8608:39
simpmany people have solaris for servers in estonia so...08:39
Almindordon't touch solaris08:39
paradizelostsolaris != beginners...08:39
jksdtahorg: yeah it would be on a SPARC if it's solaris08:39
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tahorgjksd: well opensolaris works on i38608:40
simpis there any way i could use wireless with psk-TKIP encription in linux?sorry to repeat08:40
tahorgjksd: that's why I asked08:40
tahorgjksd: but it depends on what you want to do on those servers08:40
jksdparadizelost: should I stick with red hat then?08:40
X3n0nhello again, if i upgrade from 5.10 to 6.04 i will lose my files and my option (current configuration)08:40
paradizelostjksd: i'd go ubuntu over rhat08:40
jksdtahorg: a few things I guess08:40
_jasonX3n0n: you shouldn't08:40
paradizelostas i said.  rhat=bad08:40
paradizelosti haven't been willing to use them for about 6 years.08:41
tahorgjksd: bash/zsh/sh/tcsh just work on both08:41
NoUsejksd if those are you really you're only choices I'd go with Red Hat08:41
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paradizelostunless your talking rhat enterprise server and need support08:41
jksdparadizelost: the reason why I'd prefer Red Hat is because it has a full training course08:41
tahorgjksd: ubuntu is a good choice btw :)08:41
ph1can you disable anti alising to the fonts so they look sharp like in xp?08:41
X3n0nso the correct is not to lose both of them. cause i started upgrading and i forgot asking it!08:41
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jksdparadizelost: yea, I'm talking about enterprize server08:41
paradizelostjksd: you do realize your in the #ubuntu room right?  it'd be like asking in #microsoft if windows or linux was better...08:41
NoUsex3n0n the system files are seperate from your config files, you'll be fine08:42
tahorgjksd: enterprise server $$$08:42
X3n0nok thank you!08:42
X3n0nbb08:42
_jasonX3n0n: ha too late now!  No, your configs should be safe.  If there is a file it wants to change, it will prompt you (and you should back it up and then use the newer one imo)08:42
jksdtahorg: I know08:42
jksdparadizelost: there's no officia training for ubuntu08:42
paradizelostubuntu is free and has free 5 year support...08:42
jksdofficial08:42
paradizelost:D08:42
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jksdyeah but I'm after proper training08:43
Captain-ghhola08:43
tahorgjksd: what training ?08:43
tahorgjksd: just bash scripting ?08:43
jksdtahorg: red hat offers sysadmin training08:43
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paradizelostjksd: but the issues they'll train you on aren't the ones your going to run into real-world.08:43
jksdparadizelost: howcomes?08:44
ph1how can I manually make a boot image? I compile kernel with make, make modules, make install, make modukes_insall, but I need to make an initrd image? can I make such manualy08:44
paradizelostthey'll train you on day-to-day maintenance08:44
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paradizelost!mkinitrd08:44
ubotuparadizelost: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:44
tahorgjksd: I don't understand your question then, you want a sysadmin training ok08:44
paradizelost!mkinitrdimage08:44
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost08:44
jksdtahorg: yeah I do want to08:44
paradizelostph1:  the command is mkinitrd IIRC08:44
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tahorgjksd: but redhat and solaris a really different08:44
jksdtahorg: right08:44
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jksdtahorg: red hat is better because I'm a beginner, right?08:45
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paradizelostjksd: actually, for beginners, i'd go a mac server....:D08:45
paradizelost:P08:45
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smhey all.. http://www.geeksrus.com/sophie/2006-05-09_files/timelines-2006-05-9.mov crashes both totem-gstreamer and mplayer on my dapper, any idea why ? can anyone else play it ?08:46
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thugparadizelost can mac be installed on normal computers as well ?08:46
jksdparadizelost: for real though, which should I go for?08:46
smit's about 2M08:46
paradizelostthug: not that i know of08:46
tahorgjksd: if it's for your own formation, try different distro and solaris and a bsd08:46
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jacob__hello08:46
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tahorgjacob__: hi, so ndiswrapper ?08:47
danif_600cl08:47
paradizelostjksd: if you need support and training, redhat..  but they'll cost mucho $$$$08:47
paradizelostwhat all do you need to do w/ it?08:47
roryyjksd: it might be a good idea to go for what you can easily get training for.  I suspect many of the skills can be transferred to other linux distros08:47
jacob__tahorg: ummm... not so good08:47
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silluhello08:47
tahorgjacob__: some win drivers are problematic08:47
jksdparadizelost: hosting08:47
jacob__tahorg: it is having this error where it will make me make 80 srokes and such08:47
paradizelostjksd: what kind of hosting?08:47
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paradizelosthosting could mean MANY things08:47
jksdparadizelost: haven't decided yet08:48
jksdparadizelost: yeah08:48
tahorgjacob__: looks like irq problem :)08:48
jacob__tahorg: then it won't let me start up correctly08:48
jacob__tahorg: irQ?08:48
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jacob__tahorg: what is that?08:48
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jksdparadizelost: why would you reccomend RH?08:48
jksdparadizelost: ease of use?08:48
paradizelostjacob__: Interrupt ReQuest08:48
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paradizelostjksd: as i said, i HATE redhat08:48
tahorgjacob__: interruption request, when the devices call the CPU to tell "hey I've something to say"08:48
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paradizelostbut they have training and paid-for support.08:49
jacob__tahorg, paradize lost... what should i do to fix this?08:49
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paradizelostjacob__: how old is the comp?08:49
jksdparadizelost: I've been told that Red Hat is no easier than solaris, but that doesn't sound right to me08:49
jacob__paradizelost: around 5 months08:49
tahorgjacob__: try to compile a recent version of ndiswrapper08:49
paradizelostjacob__: and how many add-in cards to you have put in?08:49
ivanhi i have one question why i can connected on any amule server i instaled amule with no problems and doesn`t work08:50
tahorgparadizelost: it's a laptop I think08:50
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paradizelost!amule08:50
jacob__paradizelost: addin cars?08:50
ubotuparadizelost: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:50
tahorgparadizelost: irq problems with ndiswrapper08:50
jacob__tahorg: i think i have the most recent08:50
paradizelosttahorg: k.08:50
tahorgjacob__: which is ?08:50
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jacob__tahorg: 1.7 methinks08:50
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Minty apt-get update && apt-get install xchat08:50
MintyE: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier verrou /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission non accorde)08:50
tahorgjacob__: what's the driver for your card ?08:51
paradizelostjksd: as i said, redhat is the M$FT of linux.08:51
paradizelost!fr08:51
tahorgw311smth IIRC08:51
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:51
Mintycan anyone telle me whameanst that08:51
jacob__tahorg: i don't know what you mean... i just have the .inf from the netgear disk08:51
MintyI prefer the english section08:51
tahorgparadizelost: stop trolling please, it doesn't help08:51
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tahorgjacob__: what is the name of the .info ?08:51
tahorginf08:51
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paradizelosttahorg: i meant that as it's easy to setup and configure, but a pain to manage... to me at least.08:51
thoreauputic_can someone see if they can get http://interlink.dynalias.org ? testing...08:51
jacob__tahorg: WG311.inf08:51
paradizelostrpms and dependency loops.08:51
paradizelostGRR08:52
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amigoI'm having some problems with the livecd08:52
paradizelostamigo: like?08:52
tahorgparadizelost: fedora core with apt-rpm works as well a any other distro08:52
paradizelosttahorg: but he's not talking fedora08:52
amigoit loads to a brown screen with a pointer.08:52
paradizelosthe's talking enterprise server08:53
amigoubuntu livecd08:53
paradizelostamigo: how much ram?08:53
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amigo1gb08:53
jacob__tahorg: get that?08:53
paradizelostamigo: have you tried burning another cd and trying it and also comparing the md5sum?08:53
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jcmcbeth_I was using the software update application and it's been stuck on "Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 (2.6.12-10.32) ..." for 20+ minutes, is it supposed to take this long?08:53
amigoyeah. twice.08:53
tahorgjacob__: what is the model that ndiswrapper -l give you ?08:53
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tahorggives08:53
paradizelostis it the dapper livecd or breezy 5.10?08:54
amigobreezy08:54
paradizelostand the md5sum is right?08:54
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amigoso far as  i know08:54
silluhow to change the keyboard layout language? i added estionian to the list but it's still in english08:54
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silluanyone knows>08:54
paradizelostamigo: did you check it?08:54
wooHow do I unmount something?08:54
amigoyeah.08:54
jacob__tahorg: doesn't say anything about the version.... just says that "Driver present, Hardware present"08:54
paradizelostwoo: sudo umount /path/to/mount08:54
newtuxmancan someone get me started on adding this ubuntu box to a windows domain so that i can see the network please?08:54
samulisillu, I had the same problem while ago with dapper in kde.08:55
amigothe "md5" unix command08:55
tahorgjacob__: the model08:55
tahorgjacob__: wg311v1 v2 ?08:55
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amigoi usually start up in freebsd08:55
jacob__tahorg: v308:55
sillui'm in gnome right now samuli08:55
tahorgv3 ... ok08:55
Jowiwoo: umount /mountpoint (or umount /dev/devicename)08:55
samulii'm using finnish layout, and it still insisted on using us.08:55
jacob__tahorg: has a mendell chipset i think08:55
wooparadizelost: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 11 19:27:32 200608:55
wooJowi: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 11 19:27:32 200608:55
vivienv308:55
samulibut that went away with upgrades.. I guess.08:55
paradizelostwoo: check your date08:55
gymsmokehrmm - i just did an install of a module to get my ftp working with iptables... how do i get that to load every time on reboot ?08:55
paradizelostwoo: or umount -f /path/to/mount08:55
samulidon't have the problem anymore anyways.08:55
paradizelostthat should force08:56
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jenesuispasbavarHow do I change the /etc/hosts file so that Breezy allows me to log in without the 'Try again' or 'Log in anyway' message when it loses my hostname?08:56
sillui just downloaded the nevest version and installed ubuntu08:56
paradizelostwoo: or you could do an lsof|grep /path/to/mount08:56
thoreauputic_*cough* has anyone managed to open http://interlink.dynalias.org ? I haven't seen any access in the log here yet ...08:56
sillubut it doesn't want to change :S08:56
paradizelostjenesuispasbavar: on the line that has 127.0.0.1 add your hostname08:56
samulisillu, I see.08:56
ompaulsillu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf08:56
thoreauputic_aha08:56
Jowi*cough* yes thoreauputic_ :)08:56
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samuliHave you updated everything in synaptic?08:56
jenesuispasbavarparadizelost: I did. It now reads 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain Tails08:57
sillunope08:57
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thoreauputic_Jowi: aha so I see - thank you :)08:57
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paradizelostjenesuispasbavar: and you have the hostname EXACTLY as it shows up when you type # hostname08:57
JonBoonwhat program do i need to use to make a webserver?08:57
paradizelost?08:57
jenesuispasbavarparadizelost: Still doesn't wirk08:57
paradizelostJonBoon: apache08:57
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jenesuispasbavarparadizelost: Yes, it's the same.08:57
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paradizelostJonBoon: unless you were talking about writing one from scratch...08:58
JonBoonoh no08:58
gymsmokedoes insmod set modules to be loaded on reboot?08:58
ompaulthoreauputic_, I got to it08:58
paradizelostjenesuispasbavar: paste the output from # hostname and a copy of your /etc/hosts in pastebin08:58
sparkleytone/etc/modules.conf08:58
paradizelostgymsmoke: no08:58
paradizelostit's in /etc/modules08:58
gymsmokeparadizelost: thanks08:59
sparkleytoneerrr not that file08:59
sparkleytonewhat paradizelost said ;)08:59
jenesuispasbavarparadizelost: I'm not on Linux right now, sorry. Using Windows because none of my Breezy programs start.08:59
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jenesuispasbavarparadizelost: What's pastebin?08:59
thoreauputic_ompaul: thanks - looks like optus aren't blocking then - but I'll shut it down again now I think08:59
paradizelost!paste08:59
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL08:59
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gymsmokeparadizelost: so, /etc/modules would be the place to set ip_conntrack, and ip_conntrack_ftp09:00
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Mintythere is nobody in the french section anyone tell me what thi I'm getting it a: pt-get update && apt-get install xchat09:00
MintyE: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier verrou /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission non accorde)09:00
Mintys means and why09:00
paradizelostgymsmoke: you are setting up your firewall?09:00
paradizelostyou could use firestarter09:00
SeveasMinty, you need to use sudo09:00
tahorgMinty: mets un sudo devant09:00
paradizelost!tell Minty about fr09:01
wooWhy can't I change my time and date?09:01
wooI right click the clock, but that doesn't work.09:01
Mintytry sudo get the same messgaze09:01
clifDoes any know where I can get a network driver for an Encore 54 mbs wireless pc card model number ENPWI-G that will work with ubuntu09:01
wooIt just doesn't open/.09:01
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paradizelostwoo: do you have the root password?09:01
gymsmokeparadizelost: just set up iptables09:01
wooparadizelost: Yes09:01
paradizelostgymsmoke: k.  then yes, you'll add those modules to /etc/modules09:01
roryyyou need sudo for each for apt-get command09:01
jenesuispasbavarI09:01
roryysudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat09:01
Mintyk09:01
newtuxmanhow do i get started connection to a windows network with a domain?09:01
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paradizelostwoo: is your timezone set correctly?09:01
wooparadizelost: Nope09:02
paradizelostparadizelost: in /etc/localtime09:02
roryyor just put them on separate lines (what clever peanut put them on one line anyway?)09:02
tahorgMinty: inst xchat09:02
wooparadizelost: That's what I need to change.09:02
wooparadizelost: and the date09:02
samulifinland leads usa 3-0 in ice hockey <309:02
Mintyokay did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat09:02
samulioh sorry, wrong chan :D09:02
Mintynothing happens09:02
jenesuispasbavarI'll figure it out myself. I've got to learn someday, eh?09:02
paradizelostwoo: what i usually have to do then is # sudo rm /etc/localtime && sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/TIMEZONE /etc/localtime09:02
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wooparadizelost: And change TIMEZONE?09:02
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paradizelostwoo: depending on where you are it may change the date as well09:03
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jacob__Sorry all! I had an error with my computer where it was lagging09:03
paradizelostwoo: yes, for example mine is US/Central09:03
jacob__thank you ompaul for gettting me unbanned09:03
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clifWhere would I go to download a driver for encore pcmia wireless card for ubuntu?09:04
wooparadizelost: It says the timestamp is to far in the future09:04
tahorgjacob__: I've read the status page from ndiswrapper wiki, your card is reported to work09:04
tahorgas working09:04
jacob__tahorg: cool09:04
tahorgjacob__: did you use the wg311v3.info ?09:04
jacob__tahorg: but, when i configure it does this weird thing09:04
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tahorginf09:04
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jacob__tahorg: yes09:05
jacob__tahorg: wait that was ndisgtk09:05
paradizelostwoo: are you dual-booting this machine w/ windows?09:05
wooparadizelost: Yes, why?09:05
paradizelostwhat's the output when you run # date09:05
WAMarlerhey I'm trying to get some new packages but apt-get is saying they're not available, even though they're listed on the Ubuntu web site, how do I find what servers to add to the sources.list file?09:05
jacob__tahorg: how do i pick one for ndiswrapper?09:05
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paradizelostwoo: because it has to store the date in a different way when it's shared w/ windows09:05
wooparadizelost: Mon May  8 14:06:08 MST 200609:05
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tahorgjacob__: desinstall the old one09:06
paradizelost!tell WAMarler about repositories09:06
roryyMinty: can you put the output of 'apt-get install xchat' on the pastebin? (the pastebin is here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:06
jacob__tahorg: how?09:06
newtuxmanhow do i get started connection to a windows network with a domain?09:06
wooparadizelost: The time is right, now.09:06
tahorgjacob__: look at the option of ndiswrapper command09:06
wooparadizelost: But the date is wrong09:06
roryyMinty: i meant 'sudo apt-get install xchat', sorry09:06
WAMarlerthx paradizelost09:06
tahorgjacob__: might be ndiswrapper -r09:06
paradizelostwoo: type #  date --help09:06
tahorgjacob__: or something like this09:06
paradizelostand run it as root09:06
paradizelostwoo: if you make the change on a terminal it should work fine09:07
tahorgjacob__: (try to find by yourself it's way better)09:07
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Biozzo'sera!09:07
jacob__tahorg: ok09:07
wooparadizelost: I'm not sure I get how to use date09:07
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Biozzoitaliani?09:08
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tahorgjacob__: -e driver         Remove 'driver'09:08
paradizelostwoo #  sudo date --date=MMDDhhmmYY09:08
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Biozzose vabbo' ciausss a todosss lolloladaofgisbgftghdaighadhgbvaes09:08
tahorgjacob__: :)09:08
paradizelostit says on the 2nd line of the help09:08
paradizelost!it09:08
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:08
newtuxmanhow do i get started connection to a windows network with a domain?09:08
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paradizelostnewtuxman: places ->network servers09:09
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newtuxmani've gotten that far, but nothing i do proves to be fruitful09:09
wooparadizelost: I get timestamp to far in the future, when I run anything sudo.09:09
jacob__tahorg: how do i make my self owner?? something like "sudo -something"09:09
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michi_hi09:09
paradizelostwoo: then type sudo su -09:09
tahorgjacob__: what ?09:09
alek_hi blietooth problem: when im writin hidd --search it doesnt write any device adresses or errors. nothing. does anybody know how to fix it?09:09
coincoinhello09:09
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wooparadizelost: Same09:09
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paradizelostdoes it ask for a password?09:10
wooNope09:10
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tahorgjacob__: you want to log as a user ?09:10
coincoindoes someone knows how to install ATI drivers ???09:10
jacob__tahorg: nevermind paradize lost got it09:10
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paradizelostwoo: you may need to boot to the rescue mode to run it then09:10
newtuxmanyes09:10
wooparadizelost: Just says the timestamp is to far in the future.09:10
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jacob__tahorg: removed old driver09:10
paradizelostwoo: can you type su -09:10
coincoinI followed their recommandations on their site but I got no errors and no 3D acc09:10
michi_thx again guys for your support yesterday, I am now running @ best resolution and refresh-rate09:10
tahorgjacob__: now add the new09:10
paradizelostcoincoin: use easyubuntu09:11
paradizelost!tell coincoin about easyubuntu09:11
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wooparadizelost: Command not found09:11
clifare there any web sites that have any drivers for PCMIA network cards that will work with encore cards?09:11
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coincoinwhy easyubuntu ???09:11
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michi_easyubuntu is very EASY to use09:11
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rabI have an empty hard drive, what should i partition it to and how can i mount it to use it?09:12
paradizelostcoincoin: it works, it does it right, and it's easy09:12
Mintyrorry tried the sudo update that starts to work but am getting error message due to restricted files as am running a amd6409:12
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coincoinyes but I am not a beginner in linux09:12
paradizelostcoincoin: i'm not either but i still use it09:12
roryyMinty: are you running normal ubuntu?09:12
michi_in the WIKI is also an ATI driver installation guide09:12
jacob__wg311v3 is already installed. Use -e to remove it09:12
jacob__ ... just removed it...09:12
paradizelostjust because your not a beginner doesn't mean you have to do it the hard way09:12
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WAMarlerparadizelost: yay! My software installed : )09:12
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newtuxmanok, i got it to the point where there is an icon that says "Windows Network" and everytime i click it, it asks me for username and password, and it will login (i think, it makes me login again if i use wrong information) but i see no shares on it or other computers on the network09:13
_jasonubotu: tell coincoin about ati09:13
coincoinokay i will try it but why does it not work on ubuntu ?09:13
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MintyThink so dowlaoded it a weel ago09:13
paradizelostWAMarler: cool09:13
paradizelostcoincoin: you may need some other stuff installed possibly09:13
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wooparadizelost: It says my password are wrong... :-/09:13
roryyMinty: i mean, did you do a normal install ?09:13
Mintyyes09:13
paradizelostwoo: change the date in the bios09:13
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Mintyrunning breezer09:13
roryyMinty: don't you already have xchat ?09:13
coincoinbut the ATI install prog tells me everything okay in its logs !!!09:13
jacob__tahorg: when i do ndiswrapper -l it gives me this Installed ndis drivers:09:13
jacob__wg311v3 invalid driver!09:13
tahorgoh.09:14
paradizelostcoincoin: did you update the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use fglrx instead of ati?09:14
Mintythats what i am using, just wanted to update to latest version09:14
paradizelost!tell Minty about upgrade09:14
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tahorgjacob__: strange09:14
seliniumHi all, anyone fancy giving me a hand compiling alsa? having problems :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386809:14
roryyMinty: has there been an x-chat update ?09:14
bobpdoes anyone know how to get the ndiswrapper module to probe on startup?09:14
jacob__tahorg: lemme try something09:14
coincoinyes with aticonfig --initial09:14
CryptidCan any one please suggest a software for anonymous web browsing or proxies .......09:14
coincoinbut no 3D acc09:14
paradizelostcoincoin: did you verify that the file itself was updated?09:15
Mintywell my version is 2.4.409:15
paradizelostcoincoin: if you do an     #  glxinfo what does it say under direct rendering09:15
coincoinI can see a slight change on the colour that suggest me the new driver is loaded and used but no 3D acc09:15
roryyMinty: mine too. ubuntu only release security fixes within a release, i.e., the version number won't go past 2.4.409:15
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tahorgcoincoin: /var/log/Xorg.0.log says something about dri and/or glx ?09:15
jacob__tahorg: can i do one of those remote assistant thingys?09:15
Mintyah okay, thanks for that09:16
tahorgjacob__: what do you mean ?09:16
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sverholenhm09:16
paradizelosttahorg: i think he's thinkgin vnc09:16
sverholensome creativity will be needed :p09:16
jacob__tahorg: i don't know... i thought that you could do some thing where you can control my comp09:16
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paradizelosttahorg: i think he wants you to vnc to his boxen09:16
sverholeni accidentally hit / in stead of .09:16
tahorgjacob__: ho, apt-get install openssh-server :)09:16
sverholenwith the command rm -R / :|09:16
jcmcbethWhat is the arguments for iptables to set up simple ip masquarading?09:16
jacob__tahorg: ok09:16
sverholeni immediately escaped09:16
sverholenbut /etc/passwd seems to be missing09:17
sverholenwhat should i do ?09:17
jacob__tahorg: installed09:17
paradizelostsverholen: it probably got plenty of stuff anyways09:17
michi_I have also a driver question: nvidia has a linux nforce driver, is worth to install it, if everything seem to run fine?09:17
paradizelostsverholen: reinstall.....09:17
paradizelost:D09:17
tahorgjacob__: are you registered to be able private msg ?09:17
coincoinI have no errors I do not understand09:17
paradizelostor restore from backup?09:17
amphijcmcbeth: good docs are at netfilter.org FWIW09:17
sverholenparadizelost: damn09:17
jacob__tahorg: yep09:17
paradizelost!tell coincoin about ati09:17
sverholenparadizelost: kicking myself in the head won't help ? :)09:17
paradizelostmight09:17
coincoinwhat paradizelost ?09:17
paradizelostdrink lots of beer09:17
paradizelost!ati09:17
ubotuit has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358909:17
michi_lol09:17
sverholenyes09:17
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sverholenparadizelost: does the ubuntu installer have a kind of restore function ?09:18
paradizelostnot that i've ever used...09:18
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simphello again, problems with the keyboard layout, changed it but still keeps the same old one09:18
simpthe english one...09:18
paradizelostsverholen: this is why i periodically do a tar -cvf /media/external/backup.tar /etc /home09:18
valentynsame problem09:18
rabI have an empty hard drive, what should i partition it to and how can i mount it to use it?09:19
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paradizelostrab: like an extra you want to add in?09:19
rabyes09:19
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sverholeni have a backup, but only my server backup is complete09:19
sverholendamn damn damn09:19
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sverholenok, thx09:19
sverholenplease don't remember me :p09:19
sverholenbb09:19
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amphirab: you can make it just one big partition if you want09:20
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shylockhi i am trying to lok at streaming video in windows media format09:20
wooCan anyone help me out?09:20
wooWhen I try to run anything sudo09:20
wooI get sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 11 19:27:32 200609:20
simpsorry to repeat my question...  problems with the keyboard layout, changed it but still keeps the same old one09:20
rabits a different hard drive, i just want to use it for extra space09:20
paradizelostwoo: did you try changing the date in the bios?09:20
roryywoo: open a new gnome terminal (don't close the old one) and rerun the sudo command09:20
shylockbut only thing i see is a black box with the text "(no picture) in it09:20
woororyy: Doesn't work.09:20
bluefoxicyokay09:20
bluefoxicyquestion guys09:20
bluefoxicycan I force X to not kill itself on ctrl-alt-bs?09:21
amphishylock: mplayer _might_ work with the w32codecs - the 'might' is what you get for nassty proprietary codecsssesss09:21
roryywoo: keep opening new terminals. each one should have its own timestamp, afaik09:21
wooMy date is at May 8th which is wrong, and the timestamp is on the 11th09:21
paradizelostbluefoxicy: it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:21
bluefoxicykay09:21
valentynHi! I have "RHYTHMBOX 0.9.0" installed. How can i upgrade it?09:21
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SeveasBlueDevil, option dontzap, google for the exact syntax09:21
amphibluefoxicy: yes - Option DontZap09:21
shylockamac, actually this might be vlc bcus i tried to install it but the install died halfway09:21
bluefoxicynow I have to start all over >:|09:21
wooparadizelost: Why would the bios be changed?09:21
amphibluefoxicy: Option DontZap was for you, sorry09:22
valentynHi! I have "RHYTHMBOX 0.9.0" installed. How can i upgrade it?09:22
rabparadazelost, how would i mount it and what shoudl i partitionit as09:22
bluefoxicyyeah thanks.09:22
paradizelostwoo: because the date is stored in the BIOS09:22
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amphiwoo: or just run ntpdate and use hwclock to set the hw clock09:22
sm-afkdoes anyone know a free dns nameserver I can use for general queries ?09:23
valentynno09:23
paradizelostsm-afk: install bind and use 127.0.0.109:23
paradizelost:D09:23
wooamphi: Elaborate please?09:23
sm-afkI have installed ubuntu for a farmer friend, and resolving certain hosts via his ISP always hangs09:23
valentynHi! I have "RHYTHMBOX 0.9.0" installed. How can i upgrade it?09:23
amphiwoo: ntpdate will sync the system clock by NTP09:23
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sm-afkany ideas on that would be *very welcome*09:24
paradizelostsm-afk:  install bind and use 127.0.0.1 as the nameserver, it09:24
wooamphi: It says no servers to connect to09:24
amphiwoo: hwclock lets you write the sys time to the bios clock, but ubuntu should do that when you shutdown anyway09:24
amphiwoo: you must give it one09:24
paradizelostwoo: try using time.nist.gov09:24
wooamphi: Erm?09:24
sm-afkparadizelost: I'll try that, but I assume it will see the same problem I see09:24
paradizelostsm-afk: the system will go directly to the root servers.09:25
valentynHi! I have "RHYTHMBOX 0.9.0" installed. How can i upgrade it?09:25
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paradizelostit will be more reliable than the ISP's dns09:25
sm-afkoh, interesting09:25
sm-afkthanks!09:25
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paradizelostsm-afk: does the system use DHCP?09:25
sm-afkyes09:25
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aLPHa_LeaKvalentyn, if someone knows how to, they'll tell you...09:25
jcmcbethDoes anyone see anything wrong with this command to do IP masquarding? "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE"?09:25
amphiwoo: try 'echo NTPSERVERS="pool.ntp.org" | sudo tee -a /etc/default/ntpdate' without the outer single quotes09:25
paradizelostsm-afk: that's gonna be the only downside, sometimes the DHCP will overwrite the 127.0.0.1 w/ the address provided09:25
kevinGreetings, I am trying to run easyubuntu, but the repositories do not seem to be there anymore, are there new addresses I should use?09:25
sm-afkyes it does.. I'll have to override that09:26
amphijcmcbeth: looks ok09:26
paradizelostjcmcbeth: eth0 is the external right?09:26
jcmcbethpretty, sure yeah09:26
roryywoo: i take it the many terminals opened didn't help your sudo problem ?09:26
jcmcbethWhen I try it my computer on my network still does not have internet access.09:26
sm-afkheading up there now, I'll see how it goes.. thanks again09:26
paradizelost!tell kevin about easyubuntu09:26
wooamphi: I can't run anything in "sudo", that's why I'm getting the timestamp error. And apparently when I run "su -", it says my pass is wrong....09:27
amphijcmcbeth: did you also do 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' ?09:27
paradizelostkevin are you using the latest version on their site?09:27
jcmcbethno09:27
paradizelostjcmcbeth: do as amphi just aid09:27
valentynaLPHa_Leak, thanx! But i should ask tu become am answer!09:27
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amphiwoo: ah09:27
paradizelosttells it to allow the ip forwarding09:27
paradizelostamphi: his date is about 4 days behind09:27
amphijcmcbeth: does cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward show 0 or 1 ?09:27
roryywoo: there's always the reboot into recovery mode option. not great, but if sudo's broken...09:27
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paradizelostwoo: CHANGE THE DAMN DATE IN THE BIOS09:27
amphiparadizelost: ntpdate won't care ;)09:27
paradizelostsorry09:28
jcmcbethamphi: it says permission denied even when I use sudo09:28
amphiwoo: sounds like you need to boot single user and fix your /etc/sudoers09:28
roryywoo: you can clean out the timestamps in /var/run/sudo/$USER09:28
woororyy: But, I need sudo for that right?09:28
paradizelostroryy: his date is 4 days behind the real one09:28
amphijcmcbeth: try 'echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'09:28
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roryywoo: not for recovery mode09:28
wooUgh.09:28
wooBrb09:29
roryyparadizelost: that can be fixed easily enough once sudo is fixed09:29
jcmcbethamphi: it says 109:29
wooIt's the date that is causing problems...09:29
amphijcmcbeth: that's as it should be09:29
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kevinparadizelost, I am using the 3.0-beta, there's also a Bleeding Edge and Nightly Snapshot09:29
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jcmcbethamphi: I set this up before, but I restarted and it stopped working09:29
CryptidWhen is Dapper gonna be released????? i have been pretty long for it09:30
paradizelost!dapper09:30
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)09:30
ompaul!dapper09:30
ompaulmeh09:30
amphijcmcbeth: the other box has its default gw set to the ip of the internal iface of the gw box?09:30
jcmcbethamphi: oh great, now it just started working, thanks for the help09:30
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amphijcmcbeth: cool09:30
paradizelostkevin: the latest version of what?09:30
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MBurgerHMhey ho!09:31
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|Sivik|how does the menu.lst need to be set in order to get the DVI to work09:31
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paradizelostbrb.  gotta fill the water bottle09:32
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simphey...09:32
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|Sivik|anyone here use DVI connector into the computer and linux?09:32
paradizelost|Sivik|: i have mine that way, it just works...09:33
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kevinparadizelost, the latest version of easyubuntu09:34
simpokey... i have many many many questions right now... any chance of connecting to wireles network with TKIP in linux? does it allways wait like a minute or 2 and then connects to internet? and then the last one, how to change the keyboard layout language?09:34
valentynHi! I have "RHYTHMBOX 0.9.0" installed. How can i upgrade it?09:34
paradizelostahh.  k09:34
|Sivik|paradizelost: well, i have a guy that is having problems when he has the DVI connected09:34
paradizelost|Sivik|: does the vid. card have more than 1 output?09:34
simpoh and i almost forgot, i reinstalled GRUB because i couldn't boot linux, now i can't boot windows09:34
|Sivik|yes09:34
|Sivik|he says it works with vga but not dvi09:34
|Sivik|his dvi problem looks like http://piano.juicemedia.tv/photos/messed1.jpg09:35
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paradizelost|Sivik|: the vid card may not be able to use the DVI as primary09:35
paradizelostwhat type of card?09:35
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paradizelost!easyubuntu09:35
Apostle^|Sivik|, the signal is scrambled09:35
Apostle^|Sivik|, he needs a new cord i'd say09:36
paradizelost|Sivik|: is it an LCD screen?09:36
newtuxmancan anyone help me get this ubuntu box on the network09:36
newtuxman?09:36
paradizelostor a tv09:36
Apostle^newpers, wired or wireless09:36
Apostle^newtuxman, wired or wireless09:36
newtuxmani should rephrase09:36
newtuxmani want it on a domain09:36
newtuxmannet network is fine09:36
paradizelost!ldap09:36
ubotuparadizelost: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:36
simp any chance of connecting to wireles network with TKIP in linux? does it allways wait like a minute or 2 and then connects to internet? and then the last one, how to change the keyboard layout language?i reinstalled GRUB because i couldn't boot linux, now i can't boot windows... sorry to repeat my questions...09:36
newtuxmangetting shared directories and shared printers09:37
paradizelostnewtuxman: sounds like you want to implement ldap09:37
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dennis_hi09:37
paradizelost!samba09:37
ubotusamba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html09:37
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paradizelost^^^ for newtuxman09:37
dennis_ hallo09:37
newtuxmanwell i figured i would use samba, but the BEST i can get is it will ONLY get about half of the directories shared by the domain server its self09:37
paradizelostdennis_: saw you say hi the first time09:38
paradizelostnewtuxman: what version of server?09:38
newtuxmanit wont see any other computers.09:38
newtuxmanwindows server 200309:38
simp any chance of connecting to wireles network with TKIP in linux? does it allways wait like a minute or 2 and then connects to internet? and then the last one, how to change the keyboard layout language?i reinstalled GRUB because i couldn't boot linux, now i can't boot windows... sorry to repeat my questions...09:38
dennis_yes , hm , i am new with ubuntu , are you german?09:38
paradizelost!de09:38
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de09:38
Oldhow to do i copy a folder to another dir? ex /home/cz to /home/cz/109:38
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seliniumis there anyway of testing /dev/midi ?09:38
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|Sivik|paradizelost: lcd09:38
paradizelostOld: mkdir /home/cz/1 && cp -Rfv /home/cz /home/cz/109:38
paradizelost|Sivik|: sounds like it's outputting at too high of a frequency for the LCD09:39
valentynHow to upgrade RHYTHMBOX to newest version?09:39
|Sivik|ok09:39
paradizelostselinium: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/midi     possibly09:39
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paradizelostvalentyn: only security updates are done w/in a version09:39
|Sivik|paradizelost: how can that be fixed09:39
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OneFix_WorkWho presses Ubuntu's CDs?09:39
paradizelost|Sivik|: i've not managed to fix it myself.  set it up using the vga cable and then swap till it's up in X09:40
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|Sivik|ok09:40
robbthey i'm having a network problem, for some reason the drivers for my ethernet card a NVidia mcp51 quit working after an updated with dapper drake yesterday09:40
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paradizelostrobbt: ask in #ubuntu+109:40
robbtjoin #ubuntu+109:40
Falstius valentyn, you can upgrade to dapper for 0.9.3.109:41
simp any chance of connecting to wireles network with TKIP in linux? does it allways wait like a minute or 2 and then connects to internet? and then the last one, how to change the keyboard layout language?i reinstalled GRUB because i couldn't boot linux, now i can't boot windows... sorry to repeat my questions...09:41
paradizelostsimp: i'd try a different channel09:41
OneFix_WorkI'm looking for someone to press about 2000-3000 CDs and I figured that whoever does Ubuntu's CDs might be good09:41
paradizelostOneFix_Work: you could buy a machine by Rimage09:41
simpbut which channel09:41
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paradizelostOneFix_Work: i've used them in the past, 4 dvd burners, can burn 4 DVD's at 1 time09:42
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paradizelostsimp i dunno09:42
simpsorry i'm new to this ubuntu business09:42
jacob__tahorg: are you there?! i think i got disconnected09:42
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bluefoxicyI want to be able to get shipit to send me Xubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu/Ubuntu packs :P09:42
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tarzeauhttp://www.linuks.mine.nu/ubuntu/uncurse09:42
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bluefoxicyinstead of 50 ubuntu CDs where I use all of 5 of them.09:42
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salmiak_newtuxman, share directories, as in writable dirs?09:43
tahorgjacob__: yep, are you registered ? :)09:43
paradizelostbluefoxicy: they're hoping you give them out09:43
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bluefoxicyparadizelost:  nobody wants them :(09:43
valentynFalstius, thanx but dapper has not yet been released09:43
jacob__tahorg: apperently not09:43
paradizelost!dapper09:43
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)09:43
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gnomefreaktarzeau: why did you just come in here and paste a link that isnt gonna help anyone?09:43
valentynany other idea?09:43
paradizelostvalentyn: it's in final beta09:43
jacob__tahorg: i think i am now09:43
paradizelostvalentyn: you could download the latest source and compile it.09:43
paradizelost:D09:43
tarzeaugnomefreak: it helped me, and i thought it'll be plenty helpful to all other ubuntu users09:44
valentynparadizelost, sorry i duno how!09:44
newtuxmansalmiak_,  what i want is that when i click the domain, it gives m ea list of all the other computers on the doimain... we add and remove boxes that i need to make use off to frequently to make static links all over my desktop09:44
Falstiusvalentyn: it is pretty usable now.  If you have the expertise to install rhythmbox from source, you have the skills to run a final beta of dapper.09:44
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Falstiuswhy do you need to update?09:44
newtuxmanbut, even with what i see here, i can ONLY access the shared directories on the domain server, and for some reason its not even getting all of them09:44
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paradizelost!upgrade09:44
ubotu[upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.09:44
paradizelost^^^ valentyn09:44
gnomefreaktarzeau: if you add a discription it might be more helpful to people and btw its still spamming09:45
valentynFalstius, yeah youre right, but ill wait 2 weeks09:45
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tarzeaugnomefreak: good idea, i'll insert a description into the script09:45
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denverwhen is dapper going to be released?09:45
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paradizelost!dapper09:45
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)09:45
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valentynFalstius, untill the final release09:45
yourmomtahorg: sorry, i  dont think i can login again09:45
gnomefreaktarzeau: than i recommend posting it in #ubuntu-offtopic not in here09:46
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salmiak_newtuxman, ah, as i understand it, you don't want to be a samba server, you just want to be a client?09:46
tarzeaugnomefreak: good idea!09:46
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gnomefreakparadizelost: you like that command huh ? lol09:46
rikunztatahorg: ok, i can do private chat now09:46
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tovertonI have booted into recovery mode, and I need to get a list of users created. When I tried to make my user, apparently I mistyped the name or pw, and I cannot log in. This problem was due to the limitations of VPC 2004, and I could not see all of the screen. Any help appreciated...09:47
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tahorgrikunzta: ssh closed09:47
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jeff303how can I mount one of my ntfs partitions (read only of course) such that ordinary users have read access?  basically I don't want to have to "sudo totem" just to play my music from that partition09:47
jeff303I try to chmod it after mounting, but it can't "read only filesystem"09:48
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wasabi__man mount09:48
jago25_98I can't seem to select jre1.4 as my default java (need it for `FOP`)09:48
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paradizelostjeff303: 172.16.0.9:/media/shareddata    /media/shareddata       nfs     ro,proto=tcp,defaults 0 009:48
paradizelostadd to fstab09:48
Juhaztoverton, cat /etc/passwd09:48
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wasabi__FOP doesn't require Sun's JRE.09:48
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wasabi__don't think so anyways09:48
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paradizelostjeff303: just make the appropriate modifications09:48
oklinuxcan some one help me install java09:49
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tovertonJuhaz: Looks like I found it ... Much appreciated!09:49
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gnomefreakubotu tell oklinux about java09:49
Falstiusgnomefreak: did you read Tarzeau's script?09:50
gnomefreakFalstius: yes and i find it very unsafe09:50
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jago25_98wasabi__: It doesn't work when I type `fop --help`09:50
TonrenHey all.. I'm installing the daily Dapper build on my Compaq Presario v2565us (v2000 series) from a Live CD, and when I try to run Ubuntu, I get the following error as it jumps back to console: "Decompressing LInux kernel... done.  Booting Kernel.  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off."  What gives?09:50
wasabi__jago25_98: What happens?09:50
paradizelostTonren: ask in #ubuntu+109:50
tovertonHere's a shock too: I just installed Suse 10.1 on a VPC, and it uses Gnome 2.12.... I was kinda surprised, since it dropped yesterday.09:51
Falstiusgnomefreak: that and utterly pointless.  I'm just shocked that you bothered to respond in a semi-civilized way instead of just ignoring it completely or berating him with a carp.09:51
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TonrenParadize: Is that the Dapper channel?09:51
paradizelostyes09:51
Tonrenthanks09:51
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jago25_98wasabi__: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/avalon/framework/logger/Logger09:51
jago25_98 at org.apache.fop.apps.Fop.main(Fop.java:60)09:51
simp!paste09:51
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL09:51
gnomefreakFalstius: i figured it is nicer to explain to to kick09:51
wasabi__You're missing componenets.09:51
wasabi__Apache componenets.09:51
wasabi__Might need to read FOPs install directions.09:51
rikunztatahorg: i can't plug in without router09:51
Falstiusgnomefreak: then you're a lot nicer than I am :)09:51
Tonrensimp, was that directed at me?09:52
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bradleyhi. i'm trying to install realplayer (which is a .bin) and bittorrent (.deb) but i can't get either to do anything i tried to get the gdebi but it couldn't be found. what should i do?09:52
|Sivik|paradizelost: you still around?09:53
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paradizelostyep09:53
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simpno09:53
simpi just wanted to see Tonren09:53
simpwhat was that pastebin adress09:54
Tonrenah.09:54
daveCBwhy cant i play cds or dvds under kubuntu desktop?09:54
|Sivik|daveCB: what kind of error do you get?09:54
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Minty"09:54
schasiHi there09:54
jago25_98wasabi__: but it mentions java? I can see FOPs` requirements09:54
wasabi__Alright. That's fine.09:54
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wasabi__What are you trying to ask?09:54
daveCB|Sivik|, with cds i dont get any errors it just doesnt play09:54
schasidid anyone else try to install dapper and failed?09:54
paradizelost|Sivik|: did you need something?09:55
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daveCBwell it plays but theres no sound09:55
paradizelostschasi: probably more appropriate for #ubuntu+109:55
daveCBtried to reconfigure the sound card but still no sound09:55
daveCB:S09:55
aLPHa_LeaKbradley, open up a terminal and type "sudo dpkg -i (enter file name here).deb" for the bittorrent09:55
|Sivik|paradizelost: no, i got my problem fixed09:55
schasiparadizelost: tthx09:55
paradizelostdaveCB: try from a terminal   # cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp09:55
paradizelostdo you get sound doing that09:55
bradleyokay i'll try that09:55
paradizelost?09:55
jago25_98wasabi__: *can't see what I need to install to use FOP without having an exception throw up09:56
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wasabi__What are the dependencies for FOP?09:56
wasabi__You are missing Apache Avalon, according tot he message.09:56
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daveCBparadizelost,  just a sec :P09:56
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paradizelostdaveCB: you may want your volume down a bit when you do that09:56
HotDriveHi. Need help upgrading firefox09:56
paradizelostHotDrive: to what version"?09:57
paradizelost!ff09:57
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ubotuparadizelost: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:57
paradizelost!firefox09:57
HotDrive1.509:57
paradizelost!firefox09:57
HotDrive!firefox09:57
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_jasonHotDrive: if you wait less than 3 weeks, dapper will be released and you can upgrade to dapper and get firefox1.5 using the package manager09:57
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ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion09:57
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nysosymHi all09:58
nysosymi think i found a bug in Dapper (all updates)09:58
_jasonnysosym: #ubuntu+109:58
wasabi__Or report it.09:58
jago25_98wasabi__: `avalon development has stopped`09:58
HotDriveI tried the wiki and it crashed09:58
wasabi__jago25_98: And?09:58
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paradizelostHotDrive: you could update to the dapper flight 709:59
paradizelost!upgrade09:59
ubotuI guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.09:59
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HotDrive!upgrade09:59
wasabi__jago25_98: Your problem is you are missing dependencies of FOP. Something in org.apache.avalon is the first one. You're sort of on your own here.09:59
wasabi__Or ask the FOP guys.09:59
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daveCBparadizelost,  what was that command line again ?10:00
daveCBsorry10:00
paradizelostcat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp10:00
paradizelostmake sure your volume is down a ways10:00
daveCBohhh damn10:01
daveCBi get sound10:01
daveCBa weird one10:01
tritium!enter10:01
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.10:01
daveCBlike when theres no image on the tv10:01
paradizelostdaveCB: yep.  that's random output10:02
daveCBso what does this means?10:02
paradizelostdaveCB: that means your sound card is working, you have a problem w/ your sound system10:02
paradizelostwhat card do you have?10:02
paradizelostnvidia?10:02
daveCByeahh10:02
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daveCBnvdia gforce fx10:02
paradizelostare you trying to use alsa or OSS?10:02
daveCBalsa10:03
wasabi__Doesn't matter. /dev/dsp works. OSS would work.10:03
wasabi__What CD playing software are you using?10:03
paradizelostopen xmms and try changing the sound system til you find one that works, i've had issues w/ nvidia cards and alsa10:03
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daveCBxmms or can i use bmp to do that?10:03
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aLPHa_LeaKcan anyone help me with this problem?: sometimes, when i boot into grub i just see "GRUB " and nothing is moving or responding...what kind of error is this and how might you be able to fix it?10:04
paradizelostif you use xmms, go into your preferences10:04
paradizelostaLPHa_LeaK: that says you have a problem w/ grupb10:04
paradizelostgrub10:04
aLPHa_LeaKparadizelost, i know that much...10:04
paradizelostdaveCB: and change the sound plugin to OSS10:04
HotDrivehere can I upgrade the dapper (and what is it...?)10:05
aLPHa_LeaKbecause it won't boot...10:05
paradizelost!dapper10:05
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)10:05
aLPHa_LeaK!upgrade10:05
ubotuhmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.10:05
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paradizelost^^ HotDrive10:05
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paradizelostaLPHa_LeaK: are you trying to boot to an external hard drive?10:05
_jasonHotDrive: dapper is still beta, just so you are aware of that10:05
aLPHa_LeaKparadizelost, no. and the problem comes from time to time and disppears again magically after a while...10:06
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HotDriveso... I just have to wait for mu system to update itself and firefox 1.5.0.3 will be availiablesoon, right?10:06
paradizelostaLPHa_LeaK: when i run into that is usually when /boot is on a drive that isn't recognized, but the bootloader is on a drive that is recognized10:07
paradizelostmake sure that all drives are detected in the bios10:07
paradizelostHotDrive: i don't know if breezy will update to dapper even after it's final until you do the instructions in !upgrade10:07
aLPHa_LeaKparadizelost, oh...hmmm...thats weird...i have 2 hdds...10:07
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paradizelostaLPHa_LeaK: could have a drive going out10:07
aLPHa_LeaKparadizelost, thanks for the info.10:08
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paradizelostnp10:08
doboDoes anyone happen to know the program for installing dbk files?10:08
doboerr, .deb10:08
spikebparadizelost: it SHOULD10:08
HotDriveI'm sorry but I'm realy new at this and don't quite get all you are saying...10:08
daveCBparadizelost, doesn't work :(10:08
aLPHa_LeaKdobo, dpkg -i10:08
paradizelostdaveCB: are you using kde?10:08
amphidobo: dpkg -i10:08
daveCByeah10:08
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aLPHa_LeaKhehe amphi ;)10:08
spikebHotDrive: it might offer to upgrade you when the next release comes out, but we're not sure10:09
amphi;)10:09
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spikebHotDrive: none of the developers are here, so...10:09
paradizelostdaveCB: kde uses ArtsD which will lock the sound system for KDE10:09
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paradizelosttry using gnome and see if you have the problem10:09
daveCBno  i dont  :P10:09
daveCBbut im more of a kde lover then gnome10:09
Blissexparadizelost: not totally, if one uses a sw sharing device with with aRts and other apps.10:09
daveCB(more user friendly etc...)10:09
paradizelostBlissex: but his card is OSS10:10
paradizelostone thing using it at a time10:10
spikebso use the artsd output10:10
HotDriveso, no one is sure if the Ubuntu will upgrade itself of if we have to get a new version and then install it?10:10
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BlissexdaveCB: good good, also consider joining #Kubuntu, #Ubuntu is more for GNOME users.10:10
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spikebHotDrive: basically.10:10
Blissexparadizelost: well, cards are usually equally well (or badly) supported by OSS and ALSA both. And Ubuntu really uses ALSA usually.10:11
spikebHotDrive: that has more to do with the knowledge of those who are here than anything with ubuntu though10:11
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HotDriveI've installed Ubuntu twice today... I'll use it as it is and wait then... thanks10:11
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paradizelostBlissex: i've had some nvidia cards that are not supported by alsa10:11
wasabi__Ubunt does not *automaticall*y upgrade between releases. That would be destructiive.10:11
wasabi__You can of course manually upgrade to whatever you want at any time.10:12
Blissexparadizelost: yes, that happens sometimes...10:12
spikebHotDrive: sure, come back some other time and ask the question again :)10:12
gnomefreakthere will be a menu option to upgrade releases iirc10:12
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HotDriveok, bye10:12
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paradizelostbrb10:15
rikunztatahorg: you there?10:15
tahorgyep10:16
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rikunztago on pm10:16
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lol* A conversar em #ubuntu10:20
lol* Tpico para #ubuntu : Official Ubuntu support channel  | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | Dapper information and help in #ubuntu+1 | IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc | Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ | Join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter10:20
lol* Tpico para #ubuntu colocado por apokryphos em Mon Apr 24 20:24:38 200610:20
lol* Recebeu um CTCP VERSION de freenode-connect10:20
lol* #ubuntu :[freenode-info]  if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg10:20
lol* ChaKy (n=chaky@lns01-0055.dsl.iskon.hr) entrou em #ubuntu10:20
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lol* #ubuntu :You need to be a channel operator to do that10:20
lol* gilianima desligou (Client Quit)10:20
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lollol10:20
apokryphoswhat are you doing?10:20
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lollokijoujigawfaofjawidaODWDOAWYFWIUFUAIDYAUTYyiuyhsuidweuifuioeuiofuoifuioedfioeuigtuiweifuegetrge10:20
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_jasontritium wins10:20
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ompaulyeap10:20
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tritiumI think ompaul won ;)10:21
moistroushey10:21
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moistroushow do i turn on sendmail?10:21
ompaultritium, na you did, as I did not band10:21
ompaularrr10:21
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GTroyI downloaded eggdrop, but I can't find the config file....any help would be appreciated10:22
moistrousi'm trying to use localhost to send mail and it says "connection refused"10:22
moistroushow do i turn this  on?10:22
tritiumompaul: well, I +q'ed (+b %), just to quiet him up10:22
gnomefreakmoistrous: start by installing it?10:22
ompaulyeap10:22
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GTroy!locate10:22
ubotulocate is probably a tool to find files located on your system. 'locate bash' for example will find the location of your file.10:22
MintyI'v got no sound on my setup, MSI S270 laptop running amd64, any ideas ?10:22
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paradizelostahh,  much better...10:23
paradizelostmoistrous: you need a mail server installed10:23
moistrousi was under the impression it was already installed10:23
moistrouspoop10:23
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doboI am trying to install java, it create a jre folder on the desktop (the binary did). Where should I move it10:23
moistrousdobe, i think java will remove it once it finishes installing10:24
spikeb!java10:24
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:24
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moistroushaha! awesome! all i had to do was apt-get install sendmail and it works... fuckin right! thanks guys10:25
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paradizelostnp10:25
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newbuntieI've purchased a new monitor, how do I reconfigure x, is there a config app of some sort or do I have to do it by hand?10:25
tritiumnewbuntie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:26
newbuntietritium: that will detect my monitor, right, so I have to connect it first?10:26
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newbuntiei'm guessing the answer is yes, so anyway, thanks10:27
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tritiumnewbuntie: sorry, stepped away.  Yes, it can autodetect10:28
ompaulompaul1, john change your nick :-)10:28
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OldIf i want to copy /home/cz1/1 folder to /home/cz/2 - what's the command?10:28
paradizelostOld: i told you that about 1/2 hour ago10:29
roryyrsync /home/cz1/1/ /home/cz/210:29
MintyI would like to set up a vpn acces, anyone tell me what i need ?10:29
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roryyerr10:29
thoreauputic_Old: cp -r /home/cz1/1 /home/cz/2  would do10:29
Oldparadizelost, yaeh i know, but that confused me abit10:29
Old:D10:29
roryybizarre directory names10:29
Oldthanks thoreauputic_10:29
Oldthat's would copy the folder, to the other one, correct?10:30
thoreauputic_Old: recursively10:30
harfoozhi all. If I install the beta of 6.06 now, will I be able to upgrade to the final version when it comes out? (doing such isn't recommended for other distributions, I know)10:30
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spikebyeah10:31
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spikebharfooz: yeah10:31
thoreauputic_Old: you need permission for /home/cz10:31
ubuntuhi guys10:31
thoreauputic_Old: which you probably lack write access for10:31
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harfoozcool. thanks spikeb. I'm dl'ing the iso right now.10:31
spikebharfooz: cool :)10:31
seliniumthoreauputic_: did you get midi working on you pc?10:31
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thoreauputic_selinium: yes, ages ago :)10:31
ubuntui have just installed dapper to my external hardrive, but when i try to boot it hangs at mounting filesys10:31
seliniumCan you give me a hand :)10:32
paradizelost!externa10:32
ubotuparadizelost: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:32
paradizelost!external10:32
ubotuhmm... external is For installing to external USB drives, the MAY WORK for you. You have been warned. Read the instructions and requirements carefully.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8081110:32
thoreauputic_selinium: the big buzz at the momnet is I have adsl2+10:32
ubuntuthanx guys10:32
thoreauputic_:D10:32
harfoozspikeb, I have 5.10 already on a spare drive, but it has several unofficial packages installed on it (nvidia driver, acroread, etc.). Is it possible to avoid burning the iso and upgrade from breezy?10:32
seliniumthoreauputic_: even betterer! :)10:32
thoreauputic_selinium: what's the trouble?10:32
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sivikdoes ubuntu have ntfs support?10:32
spikebharfooz: you can TRY via apt, if you want10:32
paradizelostharfooz: just do the upgrade10:33
paradizelost!upgrade10:33
slackern!ntfs10:33
ubotuntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:33
spikebharfooz: might break the unofficial stuff though10:33
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paradizelostsivik: it can read, but i do NOT recommend writing10:33
SionideHAL just died, anyway i can restart it without rebooting the machine??10:33
thoreauputic_selinium: I d/l ed a CD in ten minutes - blew my mind :)10:33
tonyyarussosivik: I've heard Dapper does, but haven't tried it on the beta myself.  Always something to be wary of.10:33
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paradizelostthoreauputic_: you think that's good.  i got one in 510:33
sivikparadizelost, if i can read, can i copy from?10:33
paradizelostdownloading at 2500KBps10:33
pittiSionide: can you please update to the latest hal in dapper and check if it works then?10:33
paradizelostsivik: yes.10:33
thoreauputic_paradizelost: wow !10:34
harfoozI'll give it a shot. I've got all my ~ data backed up externally, so a worst-case situation would just mean doing a fresh install like I was going to do anyways.10:34
Sionidepitti, nah i'm running breezy10:34
sivikparadizelost: k10:34
pittiSionide: ah, 'k10:34
spikebharfooz: yup :)10:34
paradizelostthoreauputic_: DAP 7.5 is nice that way...10:34
Sionidepitti, i'm sure dapper will be fine - can't wait for the release and no i'm not gonna upgrade before then10:34
Sionide:p10:34
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harfoozthanks very much paradizelost and spikeb for the help!10:34
paradizelostnp10:34
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spikebno problem10:34
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seliniumthoreauputic_: I have a cable plugged from my Soundblaster live to me guitar effects processor. I am trying to use JSythlib to deep edit the box. But when I do a midi loopback it doesn't get any response......10:34
alex__HELLO10:34
pittiSionide: make sure to test the live CD then, to help us fix bugs :-P10:34
Sionidepitti, i certainly will do that10:35
thoreauputic_paradizelost: ah well - this is culture shock: i had dialup until three days ago !10:35
paradizelostahh10:35
paradizelostthat must've sucked...10:35
seliniumthoreauputic_: adsl2 cd in a few minutes wow! I heard the universities had managed to transmit 8gb in uder 4 mins on www2...10:35
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thoreauputic_selinium: oh - that's way beyond my simple midi playing setup10:35
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thoreauputic_paradizelost: in retrospect, yes it sucked :)10:36
seliniumthoreauputic_: :) I just want to get simple stuff working. Did you have to install any extra alsa stuff?10:36
dobothank you all <310:36
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thoreauputic_selinium: I just have timidity and rosegarden working10:36
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thoreauputic_selinium: the main things wer modprobing snd_seq and such I think10:37
dedalushi10:37
thoreauputic_*were10:37
crimsunthoreauputic_: do you have an sblive and are running current dapper?10:37
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thoreauputic_selinium: although actually I think timidity did that for me this time (can't recall)10:37
seliniumthoreauputic_: Yeah, i have sorted that already... Arrrghgghghggh It is driving me crazy!10:37
thoreauputic_crimsun: no, and no :)10:38
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crimsunsigh.10:38
thoreauputic_crimsun: I have a crappy onboard card10:38
crimsunI need to find someone with an sblive who runs current dapper10:38
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wooOut of all of these http://pastebin.com/714172, which ones have to do with video?10:38
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wooand/or PCI10:39
paradizelostwoo: what's the issue?10:39
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paradizelostmodules can deal w/ multiple things10:39
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thoreauputic_crimsun: I'm a little nervous about dist-upgrading as I have a lot of things here that are not standard (compiled apps etc) - should that be a problem?10:39
wooparadizelost: Hotplug hangs at startup due to my PCI video card.10:39
crimsunthoreauputic_: should be fine unless they're C++10:40
wooparadizelost: I disabled A lot of modules, when I had Linux before, and it stopped hanging, I fortgot which though10:40
thoreauputic_crimsun: they were  done with checkinstall if that helps...10:40
crimsunthoreauputic_: eek, you'll want to remove those first, then10:40
paradizelostnvidia, agpgart, vesafb, vga16fb, vgastate,10:40
paradizelostas far as i can tell10:40
wooparadizelost: The ones I have now are: nvidia, pcc_acpi, dev_acpi, sony_acpi, agpgart, i2c_core, i2c_acpi_ec, video, vesafb10:40
wooparadizelost: Still hangs.10:40
wooThere has to be another.10:41
thoreauputic_crimsun: why, will the versions be a problem? they are all in /usr/local10:41
paradizelosthangs on what?10:41
wooBoot up.10:41
crimsunthoreauputic_: no, only dependencies (namely the C++ ones)10:41
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paradizelostwhat do you have in /etc/modules?10:41
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paradizelostmight not be a vid card issue either.10:41
thoreauputic_crimsun: hmm - I have fluxbox in there - could be c++ I think10:41
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paradizelostmy desktop at home hangs at hotplug w/ breezy detecting the integrated sound10:41
paradizelostand others10:42
wooparadizelost: I am absolutely positive it is my card.10:42
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paradizelost!hotplug10:42
ubotuparadizelost: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:42
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paradizelosthttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=97183510:42
wooparadizelost: The only one that's the same in that list is "nvidia"10:42
wooThose don't work.10:43
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crimsunthoreauputic_: yeah, uninstall it before then recompile it after the dist-upgrade10:43
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Ponshey guys.. have anyone tried ltsp howto on wiki.ubuntu.com?10:44
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Ponsi'm having a problem right now10:44
paradizelostPons: #ltsp10:44
thoreauputic_crimsun: OK that's cool - thanks for the tip10:44
thoreauputic_:)10:44
crimsunthoreauputic_: np10:44
Ponsi think it is a problem on ubuntu implementation of ltsp paradizelost10:44
paradizelostPons: what's the issue?10:45
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paradizelostthey do support the ubuntu version in #ltsp too, fyi.10:45
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the_mugwhat is the command to uninstall an OLD kernel.. is here one that removes the Grub entries?10:46
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the_mugI tried dpkg -r kernel-i386 and it didn't remove the grub entry10:46
Jowithe_mug: you remove it with "apt-get remove"10:46
the_mugdoh!10:46
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chaos_of_apocalycan anyone help me?i have instaled firestarter in synaptic but it does not apear in the system10:47
paradizelostthe_mug: you could sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove theones you don't want10:47
tonyyarussothe_mug: Maybe you need an update-grub afterwards if that doesn't do it, but with a-g remove I would think it would be fine.10:47
the_mughmm I guess I'll remove the entries manually this time and file that one away10:47
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paradizelostchaos_of_apocaly: open a terminal and run sudo firestarter10:47
tonyyarussochaos_of_apocaly: Could you describe what you mean by "does not appear" please?10:47
gnomefreakparadizelost: gksudo firestarter10:47
gnomefreakpsst and its in the menu10:48
chaos_of_apocalyits not anywhere10:48
the_mugparadizelost: jow: tonyyarusso: gracias!10:48
chaos_of_apocalybut in synaptic is instaled10:48
gnomefreakchaos_of_apocaly: killall gnome-panel10:48
paradizelostgnomefreak: i'm in the habit of always using sudo.  i know there can be issues though..... :D10:48
gnomefreak;)10:48
paradizelostchaos_of_apocaly: try gksudo firestarter10:48
paradizelostit may just not be in your applications list10:48
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gnomefreakwhen you install things they dont show up alot of times until the panel is restarted10:49
chaos_of_apocalyits ok thanks10:49
thoreauputic_paradizelost: frankly I've never had problems running X apps with sudo in gnome - in KDE it's disastrous though ( .Xauthority and .ICEauthority )10:49
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the_mugis anyone else here running production Ubuntu Server Installs?10:50
paradizelostthoreauputic_: yah, those are the ones i've had problems w/ as well10:50
OneTruthis there a command to handle Zip archives built in to ubuntu?10:50
thoreauputic_OneTruth: file-roller10:50
paradizelostOneTruth: are you needing .zip specifically?10:50
gnomefreak!zip10:50
ubotuto unzip a .zip file type in terminal unzip file.zip   replace the word file with the name of the file. also you can man zip or man unzip for more parameters10:50
OneTruthyeah its a .zip file10:50
spikebnot me10:50
OneTruththanks!10:50
gsl83Hi! I've been trying to start Ubuntu from a live CD. (5.10 and 6.06 32 Bit and 64 Bit) all of them stop booting at some point without giving an error message.10:50
thoreauputic_yes "zip" is fine on CLI10:50
spikebif i was running a production server, it'd run centos or debian stable10:50
paradizelostgsl83: what does it say when it locks? what stage is it at?10:51
thoreauputic_file-roller handles zip too10:51
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OneTruthcool10:51
gsl83Currently I'm trying to boot 5.10 i386. That one stops at "* Starting hotplug subsystem"10:51
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paradizelostgsl83: possibly try disabling your sound card10:51
paradizelosti've seen it lock there w/ some sound cards10:52
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gsl83Others stop at "Mounting root filesytem..."10:52
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invisibleshadowi need help fixing my sound10:52
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paradizelostgsl83: do they stop or do you just not wait long enough?  also how much memory do you have10:52
paradizelostinvisibleshadow: are you getting an error?10:52
paradizelostinvisibleshadow: if you open a terminal and type   #  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp      do you get sound?10:53
invisibleshadowwell, no error. I just don't hear anything beside the system souds10:53
gsl83paradizelost: I've waited for about 20 minutes. I have 1GB of memory.10:53
the_mugspikeb: what's the difference between Debian stable and Ubuntu Server install?10:53
paradizelostinvisibleshadow: are you urnning kde?10:53
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invisibleshadowgnome10:53
paradizelostinvisibleshadow: is it an nvidia sound card?10:53
invisibleshadowlet me try that comand10:53
spikebthe_mug: debian stable is older and better tested.10:53
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Oldhow do i unzip a .bin file ?10:54
Oldto a folder?10:54
chaos_of_apocalywhen i instaled the first time ubuntu it asked me a root password,but this time it didnt and i cant login as root10:54
paradizelostOld: a .bin file is a binary file, you don't unzip it....10:54
Oldhow do i make it work then +10:54
paradizelostchmod 777 filename.bin && ./filename.bin10:54
Jowi!tell chaos_of_apocaly about root10:54
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invisibleshadowsomething weird happened10:54
invisibleshadowbut no sound10:54
NoUseOld I think the preferred phrase is "Make it go vroom"10:55
paradizelostinvisibleshadow: did you get a hissing?10:55
chaos_of_apocalyyes but in the terminal it doesnot work to10:55
invisibleshadowcpu started running10:55
paradizelostchaos_of_apocaly: in ubuntu you cannot log in directly as root10:55
invisibleshadowand shell is stuck10:55
chaos_of_apocalyin hoary hedgehog i didi it10:55
paradizelostinvisibleshadow: press ctrl+c10:55
Jowichaos_of_apocaly: ubotu should have sent you a pm with info10:55
chaos_of_apocalyin hoary hedgehog i did it10:55
invisibleshadowk10:55
paradizelost!root10:55
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.10:55
ramviHow do I make compiz start automaticly? Now I have to sudo compiz when I'm in Xgl?10:56
paradizelostramvi: try #ubuntu-xgl10:56
invisibleshadowi think the card is intel10:56
chaos_of_apocalyi even login in gnome with root10:56
ramviI'm there. There's no life.10:56
paradizelostinvisibleshadow: do an lspci on the terminal10:56
the_mugspikeb: what about install process? I've installed several gentoo boxes... is the Debian Install like that?10:56
invisibleshadowk10:56
paradizelostchaos_of_apocaly: then you may have hosed your system.... :D10:56
invisibleshadownow what10:56
chaos_of_apocalynow waht???10:56
paradizelostinvisibleshadow: look for your soundcard in that list10:56
OneTruthwhat is the command to instal a perl plugin?10:57
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paradizelostinvisibleshadow: is it found or does it say unknown?10:57
chaos_of_apocalyit ask me a password in the terminal to lgin as root but i didnt configured any10:57
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paradizelostOneTruth: you probably want          perl -MCPAN -e shell10:57
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FXanyone here run flightgear?10:57
invisibleshadowthere are 2 things that are unknown devices10:57
paradizelostOneTruth: select no on the first ?10:57
spikebthe_mug: the debian install is very similar to the ubuntu text install, just asks more questions10:57
OneTruthparadizelost:  that is the one, I am writing it down this time ;)10:57
paradizelostOneTruth: then       instal Perl::Module10:57
invisibleshadownetwork controller and VGA compatible controller10:58
chaos_of_apocalywhat do i do help me10:58
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the_mugspikeb: thanks dude10:58
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Jowichaos_of_apocaly: try to set a password for root if you really need that feature.10:58
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chaos_of_apocalyi dont no how10:58
invisibleshadowi have ICH6 family high definition audio controller (rev 04)10:59
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Jowichaos_of_apocaly: read the pm that ubotu sent you. the link is there10:59
chaos_of_apocalyok10:59
gnomefreakwhat feature does root give you that sudo doesnt?11:00
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FXGot a question. I updated and firefox updated and now I get this home page whenever I start firefox.  http://www.arizona.edu/  how do I get rid of that.11:01
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gnomefreakFX: in the prefferences of ff you can set a home page11:02
_jasonFX: what is set as the command for your browser in system > preferences > preferred applications?11:02
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FXhmm it was set at custom.11:02
paradizelostgnomefreak: the only thing i can think of, when i install crossover office, it needs you logged in as root11:03
_jasonFX: the command?11:03
FXfirefox %s11:03
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chaos_of_apocalywhy should not we login grafically as root?11:04
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gnomefreakchaos_of_apocaly: its unsafe11:04
paradizelostchaos_of_apocaly: it's a security issue11:04
NoUsechaos_of_apocaly dangerous11:04
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paradizelostchaos_of_apocaly: you can screw the whole system up by making 1 mistake11:04
chaos_of_apocalycan you give me examples11:04
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_jasonFX: hrmm that's really weird, it take you to arizona still?11:04
Mintyhow do I move a file alsasound from my desktop to /etc/init.d ??? as I m not allowed to drop it in ,11:04
paradizelostchaos_of_apocaly: you are moving a folder from here to there, yhou move the wrong foldre11:04
Jowichaos_of_apocaly: as paradizelost and NoUse said, and can break certain things like .Xauthority file11:04
paradizelostyou hit delete and it deletes everything11:04
FXI fixed it now from my launcher, thanks11:04
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HunterZbye11:05
NoUsechaos_of_apocaly you don't gain anything from doing it either11:05
chaos_of_apocalybut not web security flaws??11:05
_jasonFX: if you type %u into google you'll see why you were going to arizona.edu11:05
FX_jason, thanks11:05
_jasonFX: np11:05
chaos_of_apocalyi can do sudo cant i?11:05
tazheloo11:05
FXNow to get my flightgear thingy fixed. lol11:05
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FXTrying to figure out where to put the scenery file.11:05
NoUsechaos_of_apocaly yes, thats much safer than logining is as root11:05
paradizelostchaos_of_apocaly: if you go to a site that uses an exploit and you can infect the entire system11:05
chaos_of_apocalyok11:06
chaos_of_apocalythanks for explaining11:06
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gsl83Disabling my soundcard helped for Ubuntu 5.10 i386. After booting it didn't start the X-Server because it found no devices and/or displays. So I thought I'd try the 64 Bit version. That one still hangs at NET: Registered protocol family 211:09
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MagicFabhow can I find out the package that includes disks-admin ("Disk Manager" application)11:10
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linuxamoeba21hello all11:10
MagicFablinuxamoeba21: hi11:10
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linuxamoeba21i'm thinking about getting a second SATA hard drive and putting OSX86 on it for dual-booting... if i just unlug the ubuntu HDD, install OSX86 on the new one, and plug them both back in, will ubuntu handle it right11:11
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NoUseMagicFab gnome-system-tools11:12
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|Sivik|hi all again11:12
syndicate47can i make directories on an ubuntu machine available for sharing to all computers on the network, but require a password to access them? samba needs constant restarting and nfs' security is only based on ip.11:12
JowiMagicFab: dpkg -S disks-admin11:12
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NoUsesyndicate47 what do you mean samba needs constant restarting? thats what I use for network sharing11:13
|Sivik|!nvidia11:13
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia11:13
trappistsyndicate47: you could use sfs or sshfs11:13
salmiak_syndicate47, can't you tell samba to query for password?11:13
rikunztahey, can someone help me set up ssh?11:13
bbrazilsyndicate47: nfs security is not based only on IP, you need a low port too ;). Why are you restarting samba?11:13
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Jowi!ssh11:13
ubotuit has been said that ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH11:13
MagicFabJowi: tx!11:14
Jowinp MagicFab11:14
syndicate47NoUse, bbrazil i don't know why but the samba shares dissappears from the network after about 12 hours11:14
linuxamoeba21any thoughts on above dual boot question? i just want to be sure that the other OS's loader doesn't eat grub or something11:14
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NoUsesyndicate47 have you check your samba logs?11:14
syndicate47trappist, i can't get sshfs to mount a directory so that both root and i have access?11:15
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ruzgari have problems with myspl php and apache11:16
crazy_penguinhi11:16
ruzgari want to return the configs to default values11:16
ruzgarhow can i do that11:17
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crazy_penguinwhat command can i use to setup the lm-sensors package?11:17
Yangowatch out for sshfs over bumpy links... some apps might make you lose data11:17
Yangoapt-get install lm-sensors ?11:17
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syndicate47NoUse, no, there are too many logs and i don't know which to check11:17
ruzgarremoving and reinstalling all that programs can solve my problem11:17
crazy_penguinnot download11:17
ruzgar?11:17
crazy_penguinto set it up11:17
crazy_penguinto run11:17
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tattershttp://www.dshield.org/ipinfo.php?ip=169.254.125.88&Submit=Submit     <--can someone tell me if that is a WAN address not a LAN address11:18
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bkCan someone answer me a question?  Is CUPS only used for printers that are on a network?11:18
Jowi!tell crazy_penguin about sensors11:18
crazy_penguinthx11:18
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NoUsebk no, local printers too11:19
NoUsesyndicate47 pastebin /var/log/samba/log.smbd11:19
linuxamoeba21can anyone help me with dual booting via a new hard drive?11:19
bbrazilruzgar: if you purge them (apt-get --purge) that'll work11:20
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NoUse!tell linuxamoeba21 about dualboot11:20
bbraziltatters: that address space is assigned to Microsoft, it is used for IPv4 autoconfiguration11:21
paradizelostbbrazil: you aren't talking about 169.254 are you?11:21
linuxamoeba21nouse, i already read those... doesn't quite cover my issue: i already have ubuntu and want to install a new hard drive with a new os for dual booting11:21
bbrazilparadizelost: yip11:21
paradizelosti don't even know why they bother to use that.  it never gets you anywhere anyways.../11:22
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paradizelosti'd rather get  an error.  i assume that that address is an error.....11:22
bbraziltatters: with v4, there's no such thing as a WAN address. Only looking at the physical network can tell you that11:22
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tattersbbrazil:  thnx for info I keep getting SCAN UPnP service discover attempt in my snort log from a cpl of address in that range11:22
NoUselinuxamoeba21 do you want to copy your current ubuntu install over to the new dirve?11:22
ruzgarbbrazil i have removed them in snyaptic with "compltely remove" option is that works too?11:22
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bbrazilruzgar: I don't know to be honest, but it sounds right11:23
paradizelosti have seen some places that use that as their "network" address, they just don't set up a  dhcp server...11:23
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paradizelosttatters: its called APIPA11:23
paradizelosthttp://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/APIPA.html11:23
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linuxamoeba21nouse, i have ubuntu, and want to install osx86 for dual boot... i was going to get a second physical drive for ease, but wasn't sure how ubuntu would handle it bootloader-wise11:24
ruzgari cant remove phpmyadmin package11:24
ruzgarthat gives error 12711:24
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paradizelostlinuxamoeba21: are you trying to load OSX on a PC other than a mac?11:24
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NoUselinuxamoeba21 if the drive its on now remains the primary drive it should be fine11:25
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NoUselinuxamoeba21 otherwise, you might need to run a grub recovery11:25
panzerHey! i'm new with Ubuntu! could someone plz help me?11:25
bbrazilruzgar: hmm, I'm going to guess that apache was removed before it?11:25
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sparklinghi all11:25
paradizelost!ask11:25
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.11:25
linuxamoeba21paradizelost, yeah its osx86... i have it running in vmware but native-ness would be nicer11:25
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sparklinghow i can add to my desktop a new hard drive icon?11:25
linuxamoeba21nouse, yeah i was planning to keep the ubuntu drive primary11:25
ruzgarbbrazil all of them removed but i cant remove phpmyadmin packages11:26
paradizelostsparkling: the easy way is to mount the hard drive to a folder in /media11:26
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ruzgarfor that reason i cant update my ubuntu11:26
panzerHow to install a program?:P11:26
NoUselinuxamoeba21 the trick will be when you install OSX86, it will probably try to overrite the mbr11:26
bbrazilruzgar: hmm, try it from the command line11:26
NoUselinuxamoeba21 not sure what to tell you there11:26
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sparklingparadizelost i've mounted it..and i've set in fstab the automount at boot11:26
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panzerHow to install a program?:P11:26
sparklingbut i want also the icon on the desk11:26
Jowipanzer: the easiest way it to use the synaptic package manater11:26
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paradizelostsparkling: but did you mount it in /media/?11:26
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sparklingyes11:27
gnomefreakubotu tell panzer -about synaptic11:27
linuxamoeba21nouse, if i unplug the ubuntu drive, install osx on the new drive, then plug them both in, do you think grub/ubuntu will make it work?11:27
paradizelostsparkling: when it mounts, it should autmatically make the icon11:27
NoUselinuxamoeba21 grub won't automatically detect it, you'll have to manually at it to your grub menu11:27
paradizelostsparkling: what filesystem?11:27
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NoUselinuxamoeba21 but ubuntu should boot ok11:27
linuxamoeba21nouse, as long as it doesn't eat grub, i'm cool11:27
sparklingntfs11:28
ruzgarbbrazil that give error "invalid operation phpmyadmin" what should be the right command ?11:28
paradizelostsparkling: you need to make sure you added the user,umask=000 option to the fstab line11:28
bbrazilruzgar: dpkg -P phpmyadmin11:28
paradizelostcan you paste the line in fstab for the drive?11:28
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ruzgarbbrazil same error11:28
ruzgari cant find any document about error 127 on wiki11:29
bbrazilruzgar: anything more to the error?11:29
sparklingok i check11:29
|Sivik|installing the 3d acc drivers for nvidia is a breeze11:29
bbrazilruzgar: it's probably the postremove script11:29
paradizelost|Sivik|: you use easyubuntu?11:29
paradizelostor the .sh from their site?11:29
|Sivik|paradizelost, do what?11:29
|Sivik|paradizelost, what is easyubuntu?11:29
ruzgarbbrazil that gives "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 12711:30
ruzgar"11:30
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paradizelost!tell |Sivik| about easyubuntu11:30
|Sivik|paradizelost, no, i used the howto11:30
sparklingyes paradizelost wait11:30
paradizelostruzgar: did you try a dpkg --configure -a11:31
paradizelost?11:31
paradizelosthttp://hardware.mcse.ms/message296760.html11:31
|Sivik|paradizelost, what is that command to upgrade to dapper11:31
paradizelostsimilar issue11:31
paradizelost!upgrade11:31
ubotuupgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.11:31
OldHow do i do a ftp account that only has access to /home/cz/ ?11:31
Oldim using proftpd11:31
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bbrazilOld: there should be a chroot option11:31
ruzgarparadizelost i dont understand11:31
paradizelostOld: you have a user who's home is /home/cz and give them ftp access11:31
ruzgarshould i try it with phpmyadmin11:32
JowiOld: if you use my config file, it is already set up.11:32
Oldparadizelost, could you help me out? Im not the best with ubuntu tbh11:32
OldIt is Jowi ?11:32
paradizelostruzgar: open a terminal and type       sudo dpkg --configure -a11:32
sparklingparadizelost http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1387911:32
OldIf so, how do i make a user account that's named "old" - that only has access to /home/cz ?11:32
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JowiOld: yeah, at the end of the config "DefaultRoot ~"11:32
sparklingsda1 is the problem11:32
Rennenso, how do I install mplayer with win32 codec support? :)11:32
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paradizelostsparkling: look at the mount location.11:32
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ruzgarparadizelost yes i typed11:33
myrenE: Error occurred while processing language-pack-kde-ms (NewVersion1)11:33
myrenE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages11:33
paradizelostyou need to mount it in media11:33
paradizelost /media11:33
paradizelostnot /mnt11:33
OldJowi, what's the username/password for that account?11:33
ruzgarparadizelost but that phmyadmin gives error11:33
sparklingok only this?11:33
paradizelostruzgar: you using breezy?11:33
ruzgaryes11:33
paradizelostsparkling: yes, change /mnt/sata100 to /media/sata10011:33
Rennenso, how do I install mplayer with win32 codec support? :)11:33
paradizelost!win32codecs11:33
ubotumethinks win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/11:33
JowiOld: ah, the DefaultRoot command work like this: you create a user that can use your ftp server. he logs in to your server and can only use his own /home/username directory.11:33
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Oldis there a way to change "username" to a folder perhaps ?11:34
_extricate_!grep11:34
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _extricate_11:34
paradizelostOld: the username would be cz in this case11:34
|Sivik|that gksudo command doesn't seem to work, when i run it, it can't find certain repos11:34
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Oldor nevermind, i'll call it cz then. how do i create a user so he only has /home/cz as defaultroot and cant move more then that map ?11:34
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ruzgarparadizelost i try to restart my comp. and try again11:35
paradizelostOld: i believe that is default configuration IIRC11:35
myrenWhats up with ubuntus repository?11:35
myreni run debian11:35
paradizelost!repository11:35
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost11:35
paradizelost!repositories11:35
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:35
myren and have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main universe restricted multiverse11:35
JowiOld: "sudo adduser cz"11:36
|Sivik|paradizelost, i know how to do that11:36
Jowiparadizelost: nope, it is not default. need to add "DefaultRoot ~" to proftpd.conf11:36
myrenfor some reason though, ubuntu gives me insane errors when i apt-get the repos set11:36
myrenE: Dynamic MMap ran out of room11:36
myrenE: Error occurred while processing language-pack-kde-ms (NewVersion1)11:36
myrenE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages11:36
Oldthen Jowi ?11:36
amphimyren: ask the #debian bot about mmap or dynamic mmap, and it'll tell you the fix11:36
Seveasmyren, add more memory or reduce your sources.list11:37
bbrazilmyren: /msg dpkg mmap11:37
JowiOld: that's it. you created a user called "cz". he can log in to your ftp server using the username "cz" and the password you set up with "adduser"11:37
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_JECKEL_hello11:37
meHerehey guys anyone can help me run QT designer?11:37
_JECKEL_I have two questions...one..how do I add a launcher to the applications menu in gnome..and two..can I get borderless windows?11:38
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Oldand i have to edit the ftp config to defaultroot: /home/cz ?11:38
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JowiOld: nope "DefaultRoot ~" is enough11:38
_JECKEL_hmm..maybe application's menu editor?11:38
paradizelost_JECKEL_: yes11:39
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thoreauputic__JECKEL_: one - use the menu editor two - yes, install alltray and read the man page11:39
Oldok Jowi11:39
Oldcheers mate11:39
Jowinp Old11:39
|Sivik|!upgrade11:39
paradizelostsparkling: that work for ay?11:39
paradizelostya?11:39
sparklingi'm rebooting11:40
paradizelostsparkling: shouldn't need to reboot for taht11:40
paradizelostthat11:40
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_JECKEL_alltray?11:40
paradizelostjust sudo umount /mnt/sata100 && sudo mount -a11:40
_JECKEL_well..I just wanna know if I can keep it in gnome11:40
OldJowi, looks like the ftp server aint up, how do i start it?11:40
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_JECKEL_because I want my terminal to look like part of the screen and not a window11:41
paradizelostOld: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start11:41
thoreauputic__JECKEL_: yes - install alltray11:41
JowiOld: as paradizelost said :)11:41
_JECKEL_ok..I can get that from apt-get?11:41
Oldkk, will look11:41
Oldcan you copy /past it? cant seem to find it :(11:41
thoreauputic__JECKEL_: not sure - I think you might need to google it11:41
Oldgot it11:41
mlalkakadoes gwget (the download manager for gnome) speed up downloads?11:41
thoreauputic_!info alltray11:41
Oldroot@server:~# sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start11:41
OldStarting ProFTPD ftp daemon:  - no such group 'ftp'11:41
Old - Fatal: Group: Unknown group 'ftp'. on line 48 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'11:41
|Sivik|thats offically the first time i have ever been told in ubuntu to reboot to finish the uprade11:41
thoreauputic_nope, no alltray in apt11:42
paradizelostOld: addgroup ftp11:42
paradizelostsudo addgroup ftp11:42
Oldok, done11:42
panzerSomeone plz telle me how to install java:D:P11:42
panzer pm11:42
Oldworks fine11:42
Seveas!java11:42
paradizelost!java11:42
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs11:42
sparklingparadizelost ok all done thanks too much :D11:43
paradizelostnp11:43
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OldJowi, i cant seem to enter/edit any files as the CZ user?11:43
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paradizelostOld: did you give cz rights to the /home/cz folder?11:43
JowiOld: like the files that is in the /home/cz directory?11:43
paradizelostchown cz: /home/cz -Rf11:44
Oldexactly, but i didnt give it any rights, how do i do this ?11:44
Oldthanks11:44
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OldI thank you11:44
thoreauputic_*sigh* why do people always leave sudenly? You find an answer and they're gone...11:44
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thoreauputic_*suddenly11:44
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thoreauputic_hi bimberi :)11:44
paradizelost!windows11:44
ubotuFor help with microsoft windows, please visit ##windows11:44
bimberimorning thoreauputic_ :)11:45
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_JECKEL_hmmm11:45
thoreauputic_bimberi: I now have adsl2+ !11:45
_JECKEL_alltray only seems to work with the bar thing11:45
panzer!javadebs11:45
bimberiyay - just in time11:45
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thoreauputic__JECKEL_: you need to look at the options11:46
thoreauputic__JECKEL_: there's a borderless option IIRC11:46
sparklingparadizelost: if i copy files from a ntfs partition he set folder as read only..is it possible to automatic convert all files i copy in read/write after copying?11:46
bimberithoreauputic_: i guess you're dapper-ing by now then11:46
paradizelost!chmod11:47
ubotumethinks chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.11:47
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thoreauputic_bimberi: not yet - but soon, yes :)11:47
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sparklingparadizelost: ok but i need to open terminal and use chmod command...is it possible to automatize that all times i copy something?11:47
sparkling!chmod11:47
ubotuit has been said that chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.11:47
paradizelostsparkling: i never copy in GUI.11:48
paradizelostso i don't know11:48
sparklingoh ok well thanks11:48
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thoreauputic_bimberi: since it only takes about 20 minutes to download a gig, I'm being careful with it - too tempting to download everything and exceed my limits ;)11:49
paradizelostthoreauputic_: they limit your downloads?11:49
Jowisparkling: if you're copying in the terminal, use "cp -c ......." (cp --help for more options)11:49
thoreauputic_paradizelost: sadly yes11:49
paradizelostthoreauputic_: i've downloaded LOTS of stuff, as in about 40-50GB/mo from my box...11:49
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sparklingmmm another question...if i copy a dir with subdirs can i change permissions with chmod to all files, subdirs and sub files with 1 command? without go in every subdir?11:50
thoreauputic_paradizelost: but it's enough for me - about 21 G / month11:50
thoreauputic_paradizelost: I'll need a new HDD ;)11:50
paradizelostsparkling: that's what the -Rf of the chmod command is for11:50
paradizelostR is recurse and f is force11:51
paradizelost!cp11:51
ubotuparadizelost: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:51
sparklingok thanks :D i've tried with only -R but didn't work11:51
bimberithoreauputic_: ha! you've leapfrogged me - i'm on 5Gb/moth (with ulimited offpeak 00:00-07:00)11:51
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|Sivik|FF keeps dieing on me11:51
|Sivik|nvm11:52
|Sivik|probably cuase i'm upgrding the system11:52
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thoreauputic_bimberi: I have 7 G peak, 14 off peak - but off-peak is midnight to noon ( odd idea from Optus)11:52
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paradizelost!cp11:54
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thoreauputic_bimberi: unlimited off-peak would be nice...11:54
cjphello11:54
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cjpanyone here?11:55
paradizelostcjp: nope.11:55
paradizelost!ask11:55
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.11:55
thoreauputic_cjp: no, you'rw all alone11:55
thoreauputic_:)11:55
bimbericjp: Boo! :)11:55
cjp:)11:55
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paradizelost*11:56
paradizelost***11:56
paradizelostbah11:56
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paradizelostparadizelost: wishes he had more beer.11:56
paradizelostbah11:56
cjp.....11:56
paradizelostthoreauputic_: how the heck do ya do the *** thing?11:56
thoreauputic_paradizelost:   /me does something11:57
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paradizelostahhh..11:57
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cjpI just installed ubuntu11:57
_JECKEL_hmmm11:57
_JECKEL_that is very odd11:57
thoreauputic_cjp: welcome !11:57
_JECKEL_I can't get alltray -x to work11:57
cjp:D11:57
paradizelostcjp: my first recommendation for you.11:57
paradizelost!google11:57
_JECKEL_keeps telling me segmentation fault whenever I try to use alltray in a terminal window11:57
ubotuit has been said that google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.11:57
paradizelost:D11:57
thoreauputic__JECKEL_: install fluxbox and you can just make a key combo for borderless :)11:58
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_JECKEL_I have fluxbox11:58
majd!network11:58
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.11:58
sparklinggood night all cya and thanks for help11:58
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_JECKEL_what I don't like about fluxbox is all the shit I have to go through just to set it up the way I want11:58
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paradizelostsparkling: nite11:58
thoreauputic__JECKEL_: well, set your keys file11:58
thoreauputic__JECKEL_: hmm - not a lot really11:58
_JECKEL_I'm trying to do this without using fluxbox. @.@11:58
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_JECKEL_yes..really. Besides...I really get tired of not having icons to use11:59
paradizelost_JECKEL_: use bbicons11:59
paradizelost:D11:59
paradizelost_JECKEL_: may need blackbox for that though11:59
thoreauputic__JECKEL_: ah - we differ: I don't like icons ;-)11:59

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