[12:00] <_jason> mikejjj: have you installed unrar-nonfree?
[12:00] <UKMatt> americas army
[12:00] <yarr> can somebody tell me how to run easy ubuntu
[12:00] <Emmett_Studio> first, get a chicken
[12:01] <UKMatt> _jason, americas army, its a .run
[12:01] <mikejjj> no i guess ill do that
[12:01] <ubonton> still in trouble pls some help ?
[12:01] <mikejjj> but the whole non-free thing?
[12:01] <ahmeni> Emmett_Studio: will my chicken vendor provide support?
[12:01] <_jason> UKMatt: in general .run indicates it's a file you execute.  You can navigate to the directory and do ./file.run in a terminal.  But when you do this, realize that this file can mess up your box big time if it wants to (since you don't know what the heck it is doing).  Also, removing it later may be difficult if it doesn't provide a script to do so
[12:01] <mikejjj> how about an unrar-free
[12:01] <_jason> ubotu: tell mikejjj about rar
[12:01] <mikejjj> ty
[12:01] <_jason> mikejjj: it's in multiverse
[12:01] <UKMatt> _jason, yup that was it, i just forgot the command ty
[12:01] <mikejjj> ah gotcha
[12:02] <_jason> mikejjj: unrar-free is almost useless since it doesn't open the latest rar compression, just use nonfree
[12:04] <mikejjj> _jason, you are so, beautiful, to me
[12:04] <_jason> I see...
[12:04] <kbrooks> yarr: SUDO (lowercase)
[12:04] <mikejjj> in the most hetero linux loving way possible
[12:04] <kbrooks> yarr: not GKSUDO
[12:04] <yarr> what now?
[12:04] <doctormo> best be off now, bye
[12:05] <yarr> so i type
[12:05] <yarr> sudo easyubuntu
[12:05] <yarr> errr nope
[12:06] <farruinn> kbrooks: that diskmounter script doesn't work for me. It complains about the file_umask and dir_umask options for hfsplus partition
[12:06] <_jason> yarr: sudo ./easyubuntu     if you are in the right place
[12:06] <_jason> yarr: I'm guessing.. if there is a .py at the end, you need that too
[12:06] <nybble-desk> hey guys, anyone having problems with random lockups on ubuntu 5.04, 5.10, and dapper using an Asus A7N8X-e
[12:07] <yarr> it asks for a password that i can't type in
[12:07] <_jason> yarr: you just don't see it, but you are entering it
[12:07] <kronoz> hmm ubuntu handles sd cards nicely, i was expecting it to be a hassale but it was very easy :)
[12:08] <yarr> what's the ./ buisness before it
[12:08] <yarr> i gotta put directory right?
[12:08] <Samuli^> it indicates you want to run it.
[12:08] <ubonton> well my pb seems pointless
[12:08] <ubonton> got to get some sleep
[12:08] <AlinuxOS> hello, why whan I want to sign Code Of Conduct I got this message?
[12:08] <AlinuxOS>  gpg --clearsign coc.txt
[12:08] <AlinuxOS> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
[12:08] <AlinuxOS> gpg: coc.txt: clearsign failed: secret key not available
[12:08] <yarr> well i tried sudo ./easyubuntu.py no dice :/
[12:08] <AlinuxOS> ?
[12:09] <ubonton> thanks all for having tried
[12:09] <ubonton> bye
[12:09] <yarr> thanks guys
[12:09] <Samuli^> yarr, maybe use automatix instead?
[12:09] <_jason> yarr: if you have a file like this: /a/b/c   then to execute c you can do /a/b/c  from anywhere, but if you are in a let's say, you can do b/c  since b is in a.  And if you are in b you can just do ./c since . means current directory.  Make sense?
[12:09] <sybariten> ok ... so i'm gonna dive into the disgusting area called network printing
[12:10] <mikejjj> i need to install 7z to use unrar-nonfree right
[12:10] <sybariten> coz i have a laserprinter which i have only attached to a ubuntu box, and i think i wanna try and print with it from an XP machine too.
[12:10] <yarr> ahhh i got so much crap open
[12:10] <yarr> yeah i've done like
[12:10] <_jason> mikejjj: no, 7z is to open 7z files
[12:10] <sybariten> the question is ... does ubuntu straight out of the box "have" CUPS? coz i presume i am gonna need to install that.
[12:10] <yarr> i've done like /this/that buisness
[12:11] <_jason> sybariten: yes i believe so
[12:11] <yarr> oh ok
[12:11] <chip42> sybariten: works right out of the box. miraculous
[12:11] <Samuli^> yarr, just go to the directory where the whatever.py is and do sudo ./whatever.py
[12:11] <ericz> hey, chip42, http://eric1207.com/Screenshot-Terminal.png - the whole "w" "who" thing
[12:11] <Samuli^> if that doesn't work.. well. It should :P
[12:11] <jryer> peace out
[12:12] <yarr> aye
[12:12] <JKnife> anyone know of a rapter clone for X11?
[12:12] <michi> argh I am to stupid for that OS. I need a cigarette ... bye
[12:12] <yarr> i'm in the folder and i'm doing that but it's not found
[12:13] <Samuli^> what does ls show?
[12:13] <iNiku> ericz: what's the problem? logged in users not showing in w/who?
[12:13] <yarr> ls?
[12:13] <Samuli^> it equivalent to dir in dos.
[12:13] <ericz> yeah, "who" gives no output
[12:13] <chip42> ericz: its bizarre. confirm utmp is where it should be and isn't just an empty file. if it is there, maybe examine it with an editor.. its possible its the applications itself. if you came in here complaining about a bunch of other wierd stuff happening as well, i would suggest your machine had been compromised
[12:13] <_jason> it's a command yarr, you just type it
[12:13] <chip42> ericz: its suspicious
[12:13] <Samuli^> just type ls and you see the files in that directory.
[12:13] <yarr> ok
[12:13] <Samuli^> and make sure you have lower and upper cases right.
[12:14] <yarr> sorry guys i'm really new at this :-/
[12:14] <Samuli^> because unix is case sensitive.
[12:14] <Samuli^> it's ok man :)
[12:14] <ericz> i don't think it's a security issue, i think i just deleted /var/run/utmp or /var/run/wtmp or something and just recreating them isn't working
[12:14] <yarr> i feel like an ass lol
[12:14] <corerunner> nothing wrong with the hdd but I checked it in another machine... maybe the ribbon cable
[12:14] <yarr> ls is just current directory you say?\
[12:14] <Samuli^> yes
[12:14] <chip42> ericz: *nod* have you tried a reboot. wondering if that file isn't just recreated
[12:15] <yarr> ok it's not in the right one then
[12:15] <iNiku> ericz: ls -l /var/run/utmp
[12:15] <sybariten> chip42, ok great
[12:15] <ericz> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 0 2006-05-11 17:54 /var/run/utmp
[12:15] <Samuli^> yarr, and one thing, make use of the tabulator.
[12:15] <_jason> yarr: what does 'pwd' say?
[12:15] <mikejjj> this makes no sense i can see the .rars in file browser but not in archive manager
[12:15] <ericz> i was going for an uptime record, but i'm thinking i'll reboot
[12:15] <mikejjj> even w/unrar installed and symbolically linked
[12:15] <iNiku> ericz: okay. did you reboot after recreating it?
[12:15] <yarr> theres is now password thingy
[12:15] <ericz> no, i'll reboot now
[12:15] <iNiku> hang on
[12:16] <iNiku> ericz: do this first
[12:16] <_jason> mikejjj: symlinked? what for?
[12:16] <kbrooks> yarr: sudo python eazsyubuntu.py
[12:16] <iNiku> ericz: chgrp utmp /var/run/utmp
[12:16] <kbrooks> yarr: easyubuntu.py is NOT executable
[12:16] <iNiku> chmod 664 /var/run/utmp
[12:16] <mikejjj> _jason; it didnt work before or after doing that
[12:16] <yarr> yeah i'm trying to install stuff via scripts and it really isnt working out
[12:16] <kbrooks> yarr: you have to run it with "python
[12:16] <Samuli^> i though he was talking about .run?
[12:16] <mikejjj> it said i might have to into the file compression faq
[12:16] <ericz> iniku: and now reboot?
[12:16] <kbrooks> yarr: er, add "python"
[12:16] <iNiku> ericz: then log out and go to a VT (ctrl-alt-f1)
[12:16] <yarr> i have python
[12:17] <Laibsch> Hi, I am in the process of moving to ubuntu from debian.  I need to change my grub config for that.  I added http://rafb.net/paste/results/Aft4Ld76.html to the end of my grub menu.lst.  All of ubuntu is on a single partition /dev/hda9 for now.  Still, it will not work.  Can anybody help?
[12:17] <kbrooks> yarr: i meant
[12:17] <Samuli^> yarr, in the type python whatever.py
[12:17] <_jason> kbrooks: why isn't there just some thing you can double click and run the script?
[12:17] <iNiku> ericz: log in on the VT and restart your display manager
[12:17] <kbrooks> yarr: you have to run it with >"python"<
[12:17] <kbrooks> _jason: our manpower is limited
[12:17] <iNiku> ericz: /etc/init.d/kdm restart, or gdm if you're using gnome
[12:17] <ericz> iniku: can i just ctrl+alt+backspace?
[12:17] <iNiku> ericz: no, that won't restart the display manager
[12:17] <_jason> kbrooks: it would take a minute to do and I believe there once was one
[12:18] <ericz> alright.. i'll be right back
[12:18] <yarr> ok?
[12:18] <_jason> kbrooks: and I definitely think it would be helpful
[12:18] <soundray> kbrooks: can I request an easyubuntu feature?
[12:18] <looksaus> AlinuxOS, the document mdke pointed you at should get you runnign
[12:19] <AlinuxOS> looksaus, reading :)
[12:19] <AlinuxOS> I hope
[12:19] <AlinuxOS> ;)
[12:19] <looksaus> good luck; I'll be around for 10 minutes to come
[12:19] <AlinuxOS> looksaus, ;)
[12:19] <looksaus> have to catch some sleep, too
[12:20] <soundray> kbrooks, it would be great to have a log file where you can see what it's done (unless there already is one which I haven't found)
[12:20] <_jason> mikejjj: does it work in a terminal?
[12:21] <ericz> iniku: thanks, all is well... just one more question, do you know if "w" is supposed to show uptime?
[12:21] <slackern> ericz, mine does
[12:21] <ericz> alright, good... thanks
[12:21] <iNiku> ericz: cool, so did you reboot or just do what I suggested?
[12:22] <iNiku> and yeah, w is supposed to show uptime
[12:22] <ericz> i just rebooted :P
[12:22] <iNiku> ericz: okay. I was hoping my suggestion might have worked even without a reboot
[12:22] <iNiku> so you could have kept your uptime :)
[12:22] <chip42> ah dang. iNiku's solution sounded good. now i won't get to see how it works out without doing it myself :\
[12:22] <ericz> it wasn't THAT high, but a personal best (5 days)
[12:23] <ericz> the situation is pretty easily recreatable i'd guess, just delete /var/run/utmp
[12:23] <mikejjj> sweet, its going to take 1193046 hours to burn this 699mb cd!
[12:23] <ramvi> Heya. Something is wrong... When I do sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xgl /etc/X11/X from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto, X stops working and won't start back up after restart... What do I do?
[12:24] <iNiku> 5 days? hehe, you've still got a ways to go :)
[12:24] <soundray> ramvi: probably nothing. Your machine doesn't work with Xgl. It happens.
[12:24] <ramvi> soundray: It works nested
[12:24] <JonBoon> for some reason mozilla-mplayer wont install, can anyone help me figure out why?
[12:24] <hyphenated> JonBoon: do you get an error message?
[12:25] <JonBoon> yeah
[12:25] <ramvi> soundray: So I guess the problem is in the moving of files?
[12:25] <ericz> heh, it's a personal desktop, 2 weeks i think is like my all-time record ever, that was on a ubuntu minimal install i left on during vacation
[12:25] <hyphenated> put it in a pastebin
[12:25] <JonBoon> whats the link to pastebin, i've never used it
[12:25] <hyphenated> !paste
[12:25] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[12:25] <eobanb_> JonBoon, learn to read the topic
[12:25] <soundray> ramvi: you could check the log file, /var/log/Xorg.XX.log (warning: XX is *not* 0 in this case)
[12:27] <eobanb_> ramvi, ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:27] <JonBoon> hyphenated,  its posted
[12:27] <eobanb_> JonBoon, we kind of need the link to it...
[12:28] <RandolphCarter> JonBoon: tried 'aptitude install mplayer-*yourarchhere*'?
[12:28] <JonBoon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13804
[12:29] <hyphenated> you need to install an appropriate version of mplayer first :-)
[12:29] <eobanb_> you probably want mplayer-686
[12:29] <JonBoon> i dont know what that is, RandolphCarter, im new to this
[12:29] <RandolphCarter> JonBoon: sudo aptitude install "mplayer-`uname -m`" mozilla-mplayer
[12:29] <hyphenated> that'll _almost_ work, RandolphCarter :-)
[12:29] <eobanb_> JonBoon, mplayer is optimised for various platforms, like intel 386, or amd k7, or motorola G4
[12:30] <JonBoon> it says i need mplayer586 but is not going tobe installed
[12:30] <RandolphCarter> hyphenated: erk, trouble at the ranch?
[12:30] <eobanb_> JonBoon, so apt-get install mplayer-586
[12:30] <hyphenated> JonBoon: you want to check what uname -m says. that'll help you choose the right mplayer package
[12:30] <RandolphCarter> ahh, `uname -m | sed -e 's/i//'
[12:30] <RandolphCarter> +`
[12:30] <hyphenated> :-)
[12:30] <RandolphCarter> doh :P
[12:31] <hyphenated> it'd be quite nice if that were do-able. let's tell them to rename the packages
[12:31] <JonBoon> mplayer586 says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13806
[12:32] <RandolphCarter> yeah, though the sed trick won't hurt any of the other archs :)
[12:32] <hyphenated> JonBoon: can you put your sources.list in a pastebin?
[12:32] <eobanb_> something looks way wrong here..
[12:33] <eobanb_> JonBoon, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:33] <JonBoon> pemisson denied
[12:34] <hyphenated> huh?
[12:34] <ramvi> eobanb_: thanks
[12:34] <JonBoon> in the terminal /etc/apt/sources.list says access denied
[12:34] <hyphenated> don't try to run it :-)
[12:34] <RandolphCarter> JonBoon: ahh, you need to open it, do 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[12:34] <hyphenated> just 'cat' the file and copy+paste that into the pastebin
[12:35] <JonBoon> youre assuming i know this much about linux :D
[12:35] <RandolphCarter> hehe, gedit'll open up the text editor window, you can copy+paste it from there
[12:35] <runa_> hi i have burnt a linux cd with "growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc=data/ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso"
[12:36] <runa_> but it does not work
[12:36] <JonBoon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13807
[12:36] <runa_> as boot i mean
[12:37] <runa_> can somebody help me
[12:37] <ClayG> what is the right way to install a printer?
[12:37] <RandolphCarter> thanks JonBoon
[12:37] <hyphenated> JonBoon: for some reason, you've only allowed "universe" and "multiverse" repositories
[12:38] <arrick> Is anyone here familiar with SMC swithes
[12:38] <arrick> SMC-EZ108 to be exact
[12:38] <JonBoon> ok, hmm what do i need to change
[12:38] <hyphenated> JonBoon: see the first two blocks that say "Uncomment the following two lines..." ?
[12:38] <hyphenated> remove the # marks behind the lines after them.
[12:38] <r0ver> Hello, i'm trying to update the packages from marillat and i get: Could not connect passive socket. Any suggestion ?
[12:39] <RandolphCarter> r0ver: welcome to the fun, case and semi-colon sensitive world of apt.conf :)
[12:39] <_jason> r0ver: marillat repos should not be used on ubuntu
[12:40] <soundray> r0ver: don't use the marillat repo for ubuntu
[12:40] <r0ver> where can i get a mplayer then ?
[12:40] <soundray> !tell r0ver about easysource
[12:40] <budluva> anyone aware of a good mp3 / media streaming package?
[12:40] <_jason> r0ver: mplayer is in multiverse
[12:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell r0ver about mplayer
[12:40] <JonBoon> hyphenated,  how do i remove the #
[12:40] <budluva> i want to listen to all my tunes that are stored on my ubuntu machine from anywhere on the network
[12:41] <hyphenated> JonBoon: in an editor :-)
[12:41] <r0ver> thank guys!
[12:41] <soundray> budluva: is streaming the only option? Have you thought about sharing the files via NFS or SMB?
[12:42] <JonBoon> the souce.list gedit isnt letting me change anything
[12:42] <RandolphCarter> JonBoon: you'll need to 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' to change it
[12:42] <HymnToLife> JonBoon> you have to run it as root - use gksudo
[12:42] <JonBoon> ah ok
[12:42] <HymnToLife> use gksudo instead of sudo
[12:42] <HymnToLife> !gksudo
[12:42] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[12:43] <budluva> soundray, well streaming is the easiest option
[12:43] <budluva> soundray, currently use gnump3d, but i want something with more options, and something that looks a bit better
[12:44] <soundray> budluva, have you done an apt search? "apt-cache search music stream server" spits out a few here.
[12:45] <MrGideon> I'm having some severe problems with my nvidia install. When I tried to swap over to the nvidia from nv, using the standard ubuntu files, it keps hard-locking x. When I installed the ones from the nvidia website, it now complains that it can't find the nvidia kernel module. Which is present, and even loaded, according to lsmod. No errors from the module, other than that x.org can't find it.
[12:45] <budluva> just googling right now, nothing much is coming up...will check out apt, thanks
[12:45] <JonBoon> hyphenated,  now i have this problem when i load synaptic http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13808
[12:46] <HymnToLife> JonBoon> run sudo apt-gt update in a terminal
[12:46] <HymnToLife> apt-get*
[12:47] <JonBoon> ok thats done
[12:47] <HymnToLife> retry Synaptic then :)
[12:48] <stram> has anyone have any suggestions for a DECENT bittorrent client? azureus has turned into a worse memory hog than FIREFOX!
[12:48] <JonBoon> yay! its working thanks for all the help HymnToLife and hyphenated
[12:48] <muep> stram, bittorrent
[12:49] <HymnToLife> JonBoon> you could as well have hit the Reload button in synaptic
[12:49] <stram> muep:ui'm hoping for gtk2:)
[12:49] <HymnToLife> but I'm too much of an old skool command line freak :D
[12:49] <JonBoon> yeah, but im still learning and i dont wanna mess anything up
[12:49] <muep> stram, I think it is gtk2
[12:49] <muep> stram, at least I have it, though not on ubuntu
[12:50] <soundray> The sure way to mess things up is to be too intent on avoiding it.
[12:50] <muep> but I thought this version is the same as the official one
[12:50] <JonBoon> haha, i mean i will wait for instruction before i do something
[12:50] <HymnToLife> JonBoon> I mean I could have told you "Hit the Reload button", would have worked too :p
[12:50] <MrGideon> stram: bittornado rocks
[12:53] <JonBoon> hmm, video still wont play in firefox
[12:53] <damotor> Hi
[12:53] <xpc> hi
[12:54] <damotor> Do you know how can I set jack in order to play sounds (not only midi)?
[12:54] <zcat[1] > !mp3
[12:54] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:54] <xpc> do you speak hungarian?
[12:54] <Emmett_Studio> give it up
[12:55] <Emmett_Studio> Use mp3 if you want.
[12:55] <zcat[1] > trust me I don't want..
[12:56] <jack> damotor: you cant
[12:56] <jack> i dont play sounds
[12:56] <yarr> can somebody gimme a link of where to get ssh
[12:57] <jack> ubotu, openssl
[12:57] <ubotu> jack: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:57] <yarr> !ssh
[12:57] <ubotu> I guess ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[12:57] <ferenc> who is a xchat config file for ubuntu-gnome on net??
[12:57] <damotor> jack XD I din't realize, anyway, it must be some way to configure jack to play sounds
[12:58] <jack> certainly
[12:58] <jack> i'd suggest a ls /etc/*jack* for a start
[12:58] <byron> hello
[12:58] <xpc> welcom byron
[12:58] <byron> how do you install a .rpm file
[12:58] <xpc> e
[12:58] <jack> !rpm
[12:58] <ubotu> well, rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debian's DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[12:58] <HymnToLife> !alien
[12:58] <ubotu> alien is, like, totally, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[12:59] <gnomefreak> byron, you try not to is there not a deb for it anywhere?
[12:59] <sybariten> how would you, if you were a linux printer newbie, interpret these sentences? : "Now create printer entries for your spooler. Create at least one queue for monochrome, and another queue for color printing."
[12:59] <byron> no there isnt
[12:59] <byron> its limewire
[12:59] <byron> so unless you know some sites
[12:59] <HymnToLife> !google
[12:59] <ubotu> well, google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[12:59] <byron> I know
[01:00] <gnomefreak> hold that thought for a min
[01:00] <byron> I think mostly it is .rpm and non working files
[01:00] <HymnToLife> byron> google for limewire + ubuntu ;)
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ~limewire
[01:00] <gnomefreak> !limewire
[01:00] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[01:00] <mag_> hello I have problems with compiz
[01:00] <_jason> byron: use frostwire, it's just like limewire
[01:00] <mag_> can you help me !
[01:00] <ericz> i installed limewire from a .rpm
[01:00] <mag_> help me !
[01:00] <_jason> !helpme
[01:00] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[01:01] <odyssey> hello
[01:01] <gnomefreak> its safer to install limewire the way above ^^^
[01:01] <byron> thanks
[01:01] <odyssey> can anyone help me with sound problemes
[01:01] <byron> what is so wrong with .rpm filetypes
[01:01] <hyphenated> heh, my workmate said he's got his grandma using ubuntu, and had zero grief adding a printer over the phone
[01:01] <mag_> My windows are freeze who can resolv that ?
[01:01] <yarr> hey can i get a wget link to get ssh
[01:02] <gnomefreak> byron, debian distros dont use rpms
[01:02] <hyphenated> byron: it's inappropriate on a debian-based system
[01:02] <_jason> yarr: huh?
[01:02] <hyphenated> byron: just like a .exe would be :-)
[01:02] <gnomefreak> byron, they dont play well with debian
[01:02] <yarr> just a link to get ssh
[01:02] <yarr> or where i can get it
[01:02] <byron> lol ok
[01:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell yarr about ssh
[01:02] <hyphenated> yarr: can't you get it via apt or synaptics?
[01:02] <odyssey> i just installed dapper  and my sound pci card no longer works it was working great with breezy how can i fix it
[01:02] <zcat[1] > yarr: sudo apt-get install ssh
[01:02] <gnomefreak> think isntalling an rpm package on windows
[01:02] <hyphenated> yarr: that's the "normal" way to install things on ubuntu
[01:02] <hyphenated> odyssey: #ubuntu+1
[01:02] <yarr> lol yeah
[01:04] <byron> sorry guys but the second version of limeiwre I have no clue of how to install
[01:04] <zcat[1] > forget limeire, apt-get install amule
[01:04] <gnomefreak> byron, sh file.sh
[01:04] <gnomefreak> !limewire
[01:04] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ^^^ it tells you there
[01:04] <VideoToaster> Hey everybody, anybody here had trouble with Kaffeine not finding audio CDs?  I get "No AudioCD in drive or wrong path to drive."  It provides a drop-down, but there are no options in it.  Any ideas how to fix it?  I'm running Dapper.
[01:04] <byron> any help?
[01:04] <byron> tips
[01:04] <byron> I cant even find a readme
[01:04] <byron> wiat
[01:04] <byron> envermind
[01:05] <gnomefreak> byron, did you unpack the tar?
[01:05] <hyphenated> VideoToaster: #ubuntu+1
[01:05] <byron> it unpacked into a fodler
[01:05] <gnomefreak> byron, now you should beable to just run sh limewire.sh
[01:05] <yarr> cool got it
[01:05] <gnomefreak> but before installing make sure you have latest java
[01:05] <VideoToaster> Hyphenated:  Whoops, sorry!  Thanks for the new IRC channel!
[01:07] <Nihil_85> hi guys, i wanted to buy a graphic card for my new pc. I would like to know if a brand or another of videocard matters... a part of the chipset, obviously. For example, i've seen at a good price a WS Geforce 6800GT 256mb... what about it?
[01:08] <byron> ah shit
[01:08] <needlz_> Nihil_85: im drawing all my pixels by myself :(
[01:08] <byron> I got the limeiwre installer to work
[01:08] <soundray> Nihil_85: people here tend to have more trouble with ATI than with NVidia.
[01:08] <byron> but now it says i need to upgrade my java
[01:08] <byron> anyway to do that wihtout reinstalling a non ubuntu version
[01:08] <iNiku> nvidia support on linux has traditionally been pretty good.
[01:09] <Floid> Just use gtk-gnutella.
[01:09] <Nihil_85> iNiku, in fact the gforce is from Nvidia
[01:09] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell byron about javadebs
[01:09] <Nihil_85> soundray: it isn't an ATI one
[01:09] <soundray> Nihil_85: it would be so nice if there was a third way... No graphics chipset manufacturer supports free driver development decently.
[01:09] <gnomefreak> byron, please read the pm ubotu sent you
[01:09] <byron> is htere any way to get to a java version of higher then v 1.4.2 on linux wihtout using a non ubuntu thing
[01:09] <soundray> Nihil_85: I know. Take it as encouragement.
[01:10] <byron> just upgrading present version
[01:10] <soundray> Nihil_85: what are you planning to do with your computer?
[01:10] <gnomefreak> byron, java is non-free so you have to install java
[01:10] <Nihil_85> soundray, iNiku: i wanted to know if the brand, the producer of the card is important, or if i only have to see the chipset
[01:10] <Floid> byron: Just use any other Gnutella / G2 client, Limewire is just a big slow one with ads.
[01:10] <Nihil_85> soundray: work with linux, play with windows
[01:10] <Floid> There are many much nicer ones out there. :P
[01:10] <gnomefreak> byron, if you have java 1.4 than thats fine just run sudo update-alternatives --config java and pick the 1.4 java
[01:10] <soundray> Nihil_85: I'd just look at the chipset, and go by price otherwise.
[01:11] <iNiku> Nihil_85: yep
[01:11] <Joetheodd> byron: Try out gtk-gnutella, it works great once you (finally) get the hang of it
[01:11] <Nihil_85> iNiku: yep means that i only have to see the chipset?
[01:11] <daryl_> Where is a howto for building a source file?
[01:11] <soundray> Nihil_85, I like passively cooled cards, but that's just a personal preference.
[01:11] <HymnToLife> !compiling
[01:11] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[01:12] <iNiku> Nihil_85: okay, as far as I know you can always use nvidia's reference drivers on any geforce card
[01:12] <daryl_> thanks hymtolife
[01:12] <iNiku> Nihil_85: so that means the brand name shouldn't matter
[01:12] <AlmtyBob> STUPID cave spiders 8(
[01:12] <AlmtyBob> angband makes me sad 8(
[01:12] <Nihil_85> iNiku: and the card is always good, right?
[01:12] <Joetheodd> daryl_: (in console) untar it, cd into it's folder, run ./configure, run make, run sudo make install, enjoy
[01:13] <iNiku> Nihil_85: you mean one brand is as good as another?
[01:13] <Nihil_85> yes
[01:14] <iNiku> Nihil_85: not necessarily... even if the geforce core is the same, the surrounding design may be of lesser quality so you get a softer picture or something
[01:14] <Nihil_85> this card's from "SW"....
[01:14] <iNiku> Nihil_85: but from the linux compatibility point of view, AFAIK any geforce card will do fine, no matter what brand
[01:15] <Nihil_85> iNiku: the technical specifics are the same of a Sparkle or Asustek
[01:15] <iNiku> soundray: just consider the MHz (or even better, MIPS or some similar benchmark) on your computer with a 25MB HD, compared to today's CPUs
[01:16] <Floid> It's less often a matter of "softer picture" than how well it benchmarks or whether it comes pre-ovarclocked or such.
[01:16] <Floid> And the speed/quality of the RAM they're using, which mostly just effects overclocking.
[01:17] <iNiku> Floid: true, but there are also differences in the quality of the picture different cards can push out, especially when you approach the limits
[01:17] <iNiku> 1900xsomething at a high refresh rate over analog
[01:17] <Floid> I'm sick, though, I'd still rather deal with ATI's halfassedness than nVidia's binary blobs.
[01:17] <iNiku> probably less of an issue over DVI
[01:18] <ufa> does anybody installed ubuntu in a compar r4000
[01:18] <ufa> ?
[01:18] <iNiku> Floid: the nice thing about nvidia's binary blobs in my experience has been that they mostly work
[01:18] <Floid> Heh, true.
[01:18] <HymnToLife> ufa > mine is a R3000, pretty close I guess
[01:18] <jah_for> hi! is there anybody here who can help me edit my xorg.conf for tv-out? i've tried some guides but i cant get it to work..
[01:18] <iNiku> and you get access to all the features
[01:18] <soundray> Floid: are ATI drivers anything other than binary blobs though?
[01:18] <Floid> I still hate their business practices with that, though.
[01:18] <Floid> There are halfassed open source ATI drivers that work well enough if you just need a desktop.
[01:18] <Floid> 2D desktop, rather.
[01:19] <iNiku> Floid: agreed
[01:19] <ufa> HymnToLife > what version?
[01:19] <Floid> And then there are the halfassed binary ones, but at least you don't "need" them for the NIC and the rest of the chipset. :)
[01:19] <Ademan> does ubuntu log its startup into a file?
[01:19] <iNiku> but at least nvidia actually supports linux
[01:19] <byron> now this is starting to piss me off...
[01:19] <iNiku> which can't be said for a lot of other companies
[01:19] <byron> I upgraded my java
[01:19] <jah_for> or maybe help me find a good guide..
[01:19] <byron> and it still says that my version is low
[01:19] <HymnToLife> ufa> hmmm, I read, compq sorry, my mistake :D
[01:19] <HymnToLife> compaq*
[01:20] <Floid> For some reason fglrx has this weird sort of overlay bug when using GL on the bottom quarter of a 1280x1024 screen on an Xpress 200, speaking of.
[01:20] <gnomefreak> byron, did you run the command i gave you?
[01:20] <byron> I wrote java -version to check version
[01:20] <anubarak> hi
[01:20] <byron> it said it was in right version
[01:20] <jacob_> hello!
[01:20] <byron> quel command
[01:20] <gnomefreak> byron, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:20] <ufa> it is compaq my mistake] 
[01:20] <HymnToLife> hmm
[01:20] <gnomefreak> byron, pick the newest version you have by typing the number
[01:20] <HymnToLife> then it is an R3113.EA if I remember well
[01:21] <Floid> So, uh, anyhow... there's no chance the sd SCSI-layer block device interface created for a USB floppy could pass for a fd-style block device, is there?
[01:21] <ufa> it is hard to make it work
[01:21] <ufa> i made with vesa
[01:21] <jacob_> question: I have ubuntu (Breezy badger) and don't know how to get ndiswrapper up... I got some thing called "ndiswrapper-utils" from symantptic (SP?) and i can't figure out what to go no
[01:21] <jacob_> now*
[01:21] <HymnToLife> ufa> everything worked ootb for me
[01:21] <ufa> but i would like that ATI driver working
[01:21] <gnomefreak> ufa, what are you trying to make work?
[01:22] <HymnToLife> except the crappy winmodem
[01:22] <ufa> ati mostly
[01:22] <soundray> jacob_: have you tried ndisgtk?
[01:22] <HymnToLife> I just sticked with the defaults
[01:22] <soundray> !info ndisgtk
[01:22] <ubotu> ndisgtk: (graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.5-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 104 kB
[01:22] <ufa> HymnToLife>>what version of ubuntu r u using?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> oh ati drivers thats HymnToLife's area lol
[01:22] <HymnToLife> it works well enough for Frozen Bubble :D
[01:22] <jacob_> soundray: is that on the symantic?
[01:22] <byron> thanks
[01:22] <Floid> Oh, yeah, one thing that sucks about the open-source ATI drivers is that they don't appear to do DDC properly on most chipsets. :P
[01:22] <soundray> jacob_: synaptic, yeah
[01:22] <jah_for> does anybody have a working dual-view with nvidia? maybe i can watch your xorg.conf file?
[01:22] <jacob_> ty
[01:23] <Chad> I need help, I've read the How to on modems, but I still dont understand.  I dont know which driver I need.  I have two modems, a Conexant(pay I think) and an Agere one...
[01:23] <Chad> Neither Will work.
[01:23] <james__> can someone help me with adding permission to write to a dir to a usr
[01:23] <ufa> is there a new opensource ati driver?
[01:23] <ufa> since the breezy launch
[01:23] <Floid> ufa: Is that a Radeon?
[01:23] <HymnToLife> Chad> did you read the HOTO on linmodems.org ?
[01:23] <MetaMorfoziS> what program can convert wmv to 3gp?
[01:23] <ufa> ya
[01:23] <Chad> Yes
[01:23] <ufa> radeon xpress 200
[01:23] <Chad> I dont know which modem I need, which driver.
[01:23] <Floid> fglrx is the closed-source driver, but you can install it, follow the instructions, and at least it will do DDC for you... which may get you a viewable display, if you're having trouble with the open-source drivers.
[01:24] <HymnToLife> Chad> they have  tool to identify the chipset on there
[01:24] <Floid> AFAIK the open-source ones haven't changed in that regard lately.
[01:24] <Chad> oh serious...but is it for windows?
[01:24] <HymnToLife> erm
[01:24] <Chad> I'm on windows now Hymntolife
[01:24] <HymnToLife> we're on Linux here ya know
[01:24] <Chad> Yes, I know
[01:24] <ufa> man, ati sux hard
[01:24] <HymnToLife> well then you have to identify them with linux
[01:24] <Chad> But Ubuntu wont let me get on the internet, hence why I'm here, I'm using windows right now.
[01:25] <Chad> fiddle faddle.
[01:25] <Floid> Not really, but they do sort of expect you to know your way around xorg.conf. :)
[01:25] <HymnToLife> you can dual boot
[01:25] <Chad> How?
[01:25] <HymnToLife> !dualboot
[01:25] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:25] <Floid> With nVidia you'd have had to install the blob in the first place, probably. :)
[01:25] <Chad> danke
[01:25] <HymnToLife> kein Problem :)
[01:25] <_jason> wintel?
[01:26] <HymnToLife> WINdows / inTEL I guess
[01:26] <jacob_> soundray: I can't find it in syniptic
[01:26] <Floid> ufa: If you specify HorizSync and VertRefresh, you should be able to use the open-source driver.  Coming up with values for a laptop is going to be annoying, of course, but you can derive them from standard VESA modes. :)
[01:26] <soundray> Floid: have you heard of the Open Graphics Development Board? Kerneltrap have been reporting...
[01:27] <Floid> soundray: Yes, sounds like fun.  I have no idea if there's been progress.
[01:27] <___dc1337> soundray: i can't find it in the syniptic
[01:27] <soundray> Floid, they are about to release this prototyping board, it seems.
[01:27] <james__> can someone help me with adding permission to write to a dir to a usr
[01:27] <___dc1337> soundray: do i have to install it manually
[01:27] <Floid> My latest hardware adventures have involved finding cheap integrated things to use for office workstations, the Compaq "SR1611NX"es and relatives are about as low as a decent Socket 939 system gets.
[01:28] <___dc1337> soundray: or am i just not showing all the serverS?
[01:28] <soundray> ___dc1337: no, you have to enable the universe repository in synaptic.
[01:28] <Floid> But HP won't sell you a floppy bezel for them, no matter how much you beg, because it's not in the parts catalog despite being pictured in all the product shots. x_x
[01:28] <orbweaver> hi .. just booted my debian machine on the umbutu cd .. very nice!
[01:28] <___dc1337> soundray: thx, just did
[01:28] <Floid> (And they use delightful 5.25x1" bezels for the 3.5" bays, with the bay to the left, hrgbhlgh.)
[01:29] <___dc1337> soundray: downloading files
[01:29] <HymnToLife> 5.25 floppy are cool
[01:29] <soundray> ___dc1337: I preferred your former nick
[01:29] <___dc1337> soundray: w00t! there it is
[01:29] <___dc1337> ok
[01:29] <Floid> Heh, I'm talking about a 3.5" bay with a 5.25"-width bezel.
[01:29] <Floid> And it's not even centered or full 5.25" height, so there's no way to improvise something that wouldn't look like a turd.
[01:30] <HymnToLife> this is not cool
[01:30] <HymnToLife> well
[01:30] <jacob_> soundray: odd, it said that someone else owns it
[01:30] <HymnToLife> who needs floppies ?
[01:30] <jacob_> soundray: oh well
[01:30] <soundray> jacob_: that someone is yourself.
[01:30] <HymnToLife> except poor Windows users with SATA Drives :D
[01:30] <Floid> People with lots and lots of legacy floppies that need to be read in on an as-needed basis.
[01:30] <luisv> anyone here running latest dapper and seeing problems with gconf?
[01:31] <ompaul> !dapper
[01:31] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[01:31] <Floid> See the aforementioned gripe re: USB floppy and "trying to make one appear as A: in VMWare Player."
[01:31] <luisv> i.e., no settings whatsoever?
[01:31] <HymnToLife> you can still get an USB drive lmao
[01:31] <jacob_> soundray: yes, i know... i just haven't set a password so i thought that it wouldn't remember me
[01:31] <jacob_> soundray: what do i do after intallation?
[01:31] <Floid> There's some sort of weird contention going on between the VM and the kernel wherein the floppy has to be unplugged and replugged every time you want to use it in the VM, anyway.  Heh.
[01:31] <soundray> jacob_: launch it
[01:31] <jacob_> from applications?
[01:32] <HymnToLife> Floid> fid a friend of yours who is still using windows and mooch it off to read your floppies :D
[01:32] <Floid> So having a normal fd0 on that hardware would be nice. :P
[01:32] <soundray> jacob_: Alt-F2, enter gksudo ndisgtk
[01:32] <AlinuxOS> hello https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0/+sign I've added my coc.txt.asc content nto the text box, after I clicked ADD, but get errors on the page like: An error occurred. |  str: No public key
[01:32] <Floid> Hymn: This is an office, there are more than 500 of them.
[01:32] <AlinuxOS> can't understand where is my fault
[01:32] <pakele> hola
[01:32] <pakele> buenas noches
[01:32] <HymnToLife> !es
[01:32] <pakele> una pregunta
[01:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:32] <AlinuxOS> I have even imported my pubblic key.
[01:32] <jacob_> soundray: ty!
[01:32] <Floid> If I could find a service that owned a 3.5" autoloader, I'd take them there, but I think nobody knows what those are anymore.
[01:33] <gnomefreak> AlinuxOS, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please and i had same issue with the newer version of coc
[01:33] <soundray> jacob_: I hope you'll manage from here, because I've never used that program :)
[01:33] <Floid> And the only autoloaders that ever show up on eBay are standalone duplicators, the last thing I need are twice as many floppies. :)
[01:33] <jacob_> soundray: lol
[01:33] <gnomefreak> if i remember the launchpad channel id send you there :(
[01:33] <AlinuxOS> gnomefreak, ok :D
[01:34] <jacob_> soundray: is there any way to place it in the start menu?
[01:34] <soundray> jacob_: lots of people here have used it successfully though.
[01:34] <gnomefreak> join #launchpad
[01:34] <slackern> Floid, autoloader are those the floppy duplicating machines?
[01:34] <jacob_>  /j works too
[01:34] <soundray> jacob_: I don't think you need to run it again, once you've set it up.
[01:34] <gnomefreak> that would be the channel
[01:34] <jacob_> soundray: ok
[01:35] <soundray> jacob_: but, in principle, you can add a custom launcher to a menu or panel that runs a command like 'gksudo ndisgtk'
[01:35] <Floid> slackern: Well, technically an "autoloader" is just the hardware to, y'know, load and unload a stack of 50 floppies or whatever.  They used to make ones that would strap to the front of your 'real computer' or stick out of a 3.5" bay, too.
[01:35] <jacob_> soundray: thanks
[01:35] <Floid> But apparently the people who own those are hoarding them like gold.
[01:35] <slackern> Floid, ahh yes i know what it is then, had one at my old job hooked up to and old 386 dos machine.
[01:35] <soundray> Floid: that's fun, a Wurlitzer for floppies...
[01:36] <Floid> See, you'd think there'd be a shop within, oh, 50 miles of New York City that owns one and could just image your stack-o-floppies onto CD for $50.
[01:36] <RandolphCarter> before I go to a lot of effort, has anyone seen a 'less' like program designed to 'slow' output from a file or pipe?
[01:36] <soundray> Floid: except that it would have to change floppies at least once in the middle of a song ;)
[01:36] <Floid> But the reality is much more painful.
[01:36] <jacob_> soundrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy: i                 think it workddddddddddddddddds
[01:36] <jacob_> wow
[01:36] <jacob_> tahttttttttttttttttt was gay
[01:36] <jacob_> why  the laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagy>?
[01:37] <Floid> No, anal sex with another man is gay.
[01:37] <soundray> Hey, I love to be the cause for such exuberance.
[01:37] <HymnToLife> this is flooding
[01:37] <jacob_> lol
[01:37] <jacob_> me
[01:37] <HymnToLife> flooding is gay
[01:38] <soundray> !gay
[01:38] <slackern> !language
[01:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[01:38] <Floid> !bears
[01:38] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Floid
[01:38] <jacob_> sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry? my comppppppppppppppppputer illlllllllllllllls bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrretaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarted
[01:38] <jacob_> brb
[01:38] <RandolphCarter> !ponies
[01:38] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RandolphCarter
[01:38] <five_laptop> hey is there a repository for mythtv?
[01:38] <RandolphCarter> :(
[01:38] <soundray> !+gay
[01:38] <ubotu> [gay]  the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?
[01:38] <Floid> !xset
[01:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Floid
[01:38] <five_laptop_> !mythtv
[01:38] <ubotu> mythtv is probably for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[01:38] <RandolphCarter> five_laptop: mythtv is in multiverse
[01:39] <Floid> !unicorns
[01:39] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Floid
[01:39] <HymnToLife> totally righ, in french we use the word "gai" for what ubotu describes
[01:40] <soundray> HymnToLife: in English, we use words like 'blithe' and 'bonnie' today
[01:40] <soundray> (or have I missed the latest developments there?)
[01:40] <mah> Gute Nacht.
[01:40] <HymnToLife> isn't there a changelog somewhere ? :p
[01:40] <sokuban> I am quite new to  ubuntu and I have a question, is it normal to be unable to connect to a network in ubuntu? when I try to look at it on ubuntu it calls it 'windows network' what should I do?
[01:40] <soundray> mah: schlaf gut
[01:40] <mah> Oops
[01:41] <jacob_> very sorry! i had a problem... it was just puting in 80 letters for every one i typed
[01:41] <jacob_> very sorry
[01:41] <HymnToLife> sokuban> what happens if you double click on Windows Network ?
[01:41] <jacob_> had to restart
[01:41] <HymnToLife> that was gay :p
[01:41] <mah> soundray: Du auch. ;)
[01:41] <dooglus> when I saturate my upstream, my mouse starts getting really bad - it freezes for a second every 3 seconds or so.  can I prioritise the touchpad/mouse higher than the USB network card?
[01:42] <jacob_> xD
[01:42] <jacob_> hey, how do i run the network thingy again?
[01:42] <soundray> dooglus: are they on the same hub, and have you tried separating them?
[01:42] <dooglus> jacob_: "sudo network-thingy"
[01:43] <soundray> jacob_: gksudo ndisgtk
[01:43] <jacob_> thanks
[01:43] <dooglus> soundray: it's a laptop.  the touchpad is built in, the network is on a USB cable.
[01:43] <Floid> jacob: Next time 'xset' yourself back to a normal repeat rate and delay.  If you can manage to cut and paste the letters to type the command. ;)
[01:43] <sokuban> HymnToLife: I haven't tried that but I am running windows now, I can't magically go and boot up ubuntu, should I? I guess I'll need to get on irc from another comp then
[01:43] <HymnToLife> network on USB ?
[01:43] <HymnToLife> damn THAT's creepy
[01:43] <sokuban> what do you think might happen?
[01:43] <dooglus> soundray: if I just run a "cp" to copy a big file onto a remote server, my touchpad starts responding very slowly.
[01:44] <dooglus> HymnToLife: it is?
[01:44] <HymnToLife> sokuban> I guess you will have al the Windows computers of your network listed
[01:44] <HymnToLife> exactly the same ay as in Windows
[01:44] <soundray> dooglus: that's annoying.
[01:44] <Floid> The answer is "Cardbus." ;)
[01:44] <sokuban> ok but what would I have to do to the network to connect to it while on ubuntu?
[01:44] <dooglus> soundray: I was wondering if I could set the priority of the touchpad driver to be higher than the USB port somehow.
[01:44] <dooglus> soundray: maybe with 'nice'?
[01:44] <HymnToLife> sokuban> you mean to share files with Win users ?
[01:45] <sokuban> no to use internet
[01:45] <sokuban> oops your prolly thinking this is a network
[01:45] <HymnToLife> hmm
[01:45] <soundray> dooglus: the nice equivalent for network traffic is QoS
[01:45] <iNiku> dooglus: the problem is probably that the touchpad is internally an USB device as well
[01:45] <jacob_> doooooooooooooooooinggggggggggggggggg it again
[01:45] <jacob_> i thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink it is active now
[01:45] <dooglus> iNiku: is there some way I can test that theory?
[01:45] <sokuban> according to my dad "there is a firewall, you can't stop it just give up whatever you are trying to do"
[01:45] <iNiku> dooglus: and it's on the same internal USB hub
[01:46] <sokuban> is this normal with some sort of firewall or something?
[01:46] <soundray> dooglus: you could switch to legacy mode in the BIOS and see if it improves.
[01:46] <HymnToLife> sokuban> if a Windows box can connect, an Ubuntu should connect too
[01:46] <RandolphCarter> dooglus: iirc there's a fairly experimental USB QoS option in the kernel configuration
[01:46] <HymnToLife> maybe some proxy settings
[01:46] <dooglus> iNiku: I just guessed at a command: 'lsusb' - that shows only one USB device is connected, the network card
[01:46] <sokuban> hmm how would I work with those?
[01:46] <Mastastealth> can anyone give me the name of the dapper channel?
[01:46] <RandolphCarter> dooglus: not sure where you can get the user-space tools from (if it's even turned on in the ubuntu kernels)
[01:46] <HymnToLife> !dapper
[01:46] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[01:47] <iNiku> dooglus: hmm, okay, probably a wrong guess then
[01:47] <Mastastealth> thx
[01:47] <HymnToLife> sokuban> ask your dad :p
[01:47] <sokuban> he doesn't know anything about computers, and he will tell me to give up >_<
[01:48] <Floid> dooglus: It's probably just interrupt load from the USB NIC.
[01:48] <HymnToLife> sokuban> well, you certainly did something so your Windows boxes could connect, right ?
[01:48] <HymnToLife> do the same on Ubuntu :)
[01:48] <Floid> Watch your sys time in 'top,' and if it's spiking when you freeze up, get a Cardbus NIC or something. :P
[01:48] <dooglus> Floid: what's weird is that when I use a USB2 port instead of USB1.1, the problem doesn't happen, even though then the transfer speed is much faster
[01:48] <sokuban> alright, I'll try messing with the settings and come back if I need more help, at least I know now that if windows can connect I can do it with ubuntu
[01:48] <RandolphCarter> dooglus: it wouldn't be unusual for it to be using a USB bus (look in BIOS)
[01:49] <Floid> Probably because the device can use EHCI then, however that works.
[01:49] <dooglus> Floid: it could be that the USB2 port is on a pcmcia card, not part of the laptop, I don't know
[01:49] <Floid> (Meaning USB2.0, meaning less load on the system per-byte-transferred.)
[01:49] <dooglus> Floid: I see.  OK.
[01:49] <Floid> Like I say, USB2 is probably just more less-stupid in that regard. ;)
[01:49] <soundray> dooglus: just curious, do you know if your USB NIC supports wake-on-lan?
[01:50] <dooglus> the pcmcia USB2 card stopped working a while ago unfortunately
[01:50] <Floid> The laptop doesn't have built-in ethernet?
[01:50] <dooglus> soundray: I've no idea.
[01:50] <dooglus> Floid: it used to.  but it fell out.
[01:50] <Floid> Heh.
[01:50] <Floid> A MiniPCI card/
[01:50] <Floid> ?
[01:50] <soundray> dooglus: have you got the make & model name there?
[01:50] <Nihil_85> hi! no one here experienced with graphic cards?
[01:50] <dooglus> Floid: I tried sticking it back in, but it's not been the same since.  It works now, but only if you push the ethernet cable in *really* hard
[01:51] <Mastastealth> Nihil: which one? ;)
[01:51] <dooglus> soundray: I can't remember even that.  I think it's an ASIX, ethernet-to-USB thingy.
[01:51] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: i wante to buy a graphic card, it's not a software problem but an hardware one :) can you help me, however?
[01:52] <Mastastealth> yes, one word, NVIDIA :D
[01:52] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: obviously!
[01:52] <Mastastealth> after that, it depends on ur budget
[01:52] <username_> Hi, question about midi, I have it working some in wine
[01:52] <soundray> dooglus: I've got a similar device, but can't make it work. The manufacturers have sent me driver source, but I haven't succeeded in compiling it yet.
[01:52] <Mastastealth> what range are you looking for? :)
[01:52] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: i only wanted to know if (always with the same chipset) the brand, the manifacturer, matters
[01:53] <username_> followed advice from Franks Corner
[01:53] <dooglus> soundray: I couldn't get this one to work in windows xp, or in debian sid.  but it worked in dapper as soon as I plugged it in.
[01:53] <dooglus> soundray: no driver installation was needed.
[01:53] <soundray> dooglus: I'm impressed.
[01:53] <soundray> dooglus: maybe I'll just go looking for another one.
[01:53] <odyssey> hello
[01:53] <username_> does anybody know why windows media player cannot play midi?
[01:54] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: i'm looking for a Geforce 6800 256mb SLI PCI-E. I've seen a SW (unknown brand) in a bulk edition a lot of money less
[01:54] <dooglus> soundray: I'll take a look at the box when I can and let you know which it is.
[01:54] <_jason> username_: this is an ubuntu linux support channel
[01:54] <username_> not wine?
[01:54] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: are you euro zone or dollar zone?
[01:54] <soundray> Thanks dooglus
[01:54] <Mastastealth> dollars
[01:54] <_jason> username_: not windows media player :/
[01:55] <username_> wine
[01:55] <odyssey> does anybody know what to use as a dvd shrink on ubuntu
[01:55] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: so we cannot compare the prices, couse you buy hw much less than me
[01:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell username_ about midi
[01:55] <username_> I have it working
[01:55] <Mastastealth> aw...sry Nihil ^_^
[01:55] <username_> but some things do not work in wine, midi, and some do
[01:55] <_jason> username_: you can ask questions about wine if you want, but #winehq may have people mofr familiar with it
[01:55] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: the price isnt' a problem right now
[01:56] <Mastastealth> Nihil, so u just want the most bang for ur bucK?
[01:56] <odyssey> does dvd shrink work in ubuntu
[01:56] <soundray> username_: why don't you use a native midi player for Linux?
[01:56] <username_> ok, got the chat from their site
[01:56] <_jason> username_: you know you can play midi's without wine right?
[01:56] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: i wanted to know if the manifacturer matters, cause 2 cards with the same chipset and configurations, can cost much more or less
[01:56] <username_> yes, I have timidity and a soundfont installed
[01:57] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: the price's not a problem cause my matter is another :) i cannot buy the top, right at this moment. :(
[01:57] <dapatrick> Quick question: after upgrading to Dapper, I can no longer run "gksudo firestarter"
[01:57] <Mastastealth> Nihil, sometimes yes, XFX, BFG, PNY are good manufacturers
[01:57] <username_> closely followed the instructions at Franks corner
[01:57] <dapatrick> I get an error complaining of "Cannot open display"
[01:57] <dapatrick> But my DISPLAY environment variable is set correctly.
[01:57] <Mastastealth> if you go to cheap, u can get lesser quality, maybe a hotter card or something
[01:57] <soundray> dapatrick, hit Alt-F2 and enter the command there
[01:57] <username_> I am running Mepis 6 beta 2, based on ubuntu
[01:58] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: so this SW can be a crappy card? but it costs 50-60% less...
[01:58] <dapatrick> soundray: no dice
[01:58] <dapatrick> It's very strange.
[01:58] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: uhmmm, i've thought about a crappy cooler or something like this
[01:58] <JayAll> Hey
[01:58] <soundray> dapatrick: try #ubuntu+1 -- it may be a dapper problem.
[01:59] <Mastastealth> Nihil, is SW and abbreviation? or the actual name
[01:59] <dapatrick> Okay, thanks soundray.
[01:59] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: I don't know!!!!
[01:59] <odyssey> do you use dvd shrink on ubuntu
[01:59] <Mastastealth> lol, do u have a link?
[02:00] <Nihil_85> Mastastealth: pvt
[02:01] <JayAll> Ok, so my laptop has been freezing up lately - I mean, the whole thing just stops, no response, even the animation on the cursor stops (if there happens to be one at the time). This seems to happen at totally random, arbitrary moments when nothing is going on (I'm usually not even touching it). Is this in any way possibly related to Ubuntu? (p.s. the system goes bgack to normal after I knock...
[02:01] <JayAll> ...it out and reboot)
[02:02] <odyssey> do you use any software on ubuntu that does the same as dvd shrink
[02:02] <tahorg> odyssey: what does dvd shrink do ?
[02:02] <JayAll> Ok, so my laptop has been freezing up lately - I mean, the whole thing just stops, no response, even the animation on the cursor stops (if there happens to be one at the time). This seems to happen at totally random, arbitrary moments when nothing is going on (I'm usually not even touching it). Is this in any way possibly related to Ubuntu? (p.s. the system goes bgack to normal after I knock...
[02:02] <JayAll> ...it out and reboot)
[02:02] <tahorg> JayAll: paste again ?
[02:03] <JayAll> Paste what, tahorg
[02:03] <odyssey> shrinks dvd's from 8gig to 3.7 + decodes
[02:03] <zcat[1] > try acidrip ?
[02:03] <odyssey> something like dvd santa on xp
[02:03] <HIGH-FREQ> ya there's a proggie...called um...
[02:03] <JayAll> odyssey: tar -cjf file.tar.bz2 <dvd directory>
[02:04] <JayAll> ;)
[02:04] <tahorg> spikeb: tango
[02:04] <spikeb> almost
[02:04] <zcat[1] > not sure if acidrip will rip to a smaller VOB but it does a nice job ripping to divx..
[02:04] <HIGH-FREQ> its called k9copy
[02:07] <mugzie> !realplayer
[02:07] <ubotu> from memory, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:08] <odyssey> jayall what does that command do tar  -cjf tar bz2
[02:08] <JayAll> odyssey: tar is .. kinda like WinZip
[02:08] <JayAll> but totally different ..
[02:08] <JayAll> Same general idea.
[02:08] <tahorg> odyssey: it creates a tarball archive compressed with bzip2
[02:09] <odyssey> ok you input in the terminal
[02:09] <jacob_> well, it didn't work
[02:09] <odyssey> newbie sorry
[02:09] <jacob_> it just froze up ubuntu
[02:09] <JayAll> odyssey: We were all there.
[02:09] <jacob_> and made it crash a few times on start up
[02:10] <jacob_> can you tell me how to install ndiswrapper?
[02:10] <tahorg> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[02:10] <jacob_> thanks
[02:10] <jacob_> how do i config?
[02:10] <zcat[1] > didn't know about k9copy.. worth a look :)
[02:10] <tahorg> jacob_: sorry it's ndiswrapper-utils
[02:10] <duelboot> Yeah!  Dapper Drake Beta...Boo! I don't know how to Samba...I went to System > Admin > Shared Folders and added a directory I want to share...am on my other computer now (both ubuntu) and it doesn't show up in my network area...any help on what I need to do?
[02:11] <jacob_> tahorg: i have that
[02:11] <tahorg> duelboot: mmh, wait ?
[02:11] <spikeb> hmm
[02:11] <jacob_> tahorg: i got it before, hoping that that was the whole thing
[02:11] <spikeb> duelboot: how long has it been since you turned on sharing?
[02:11] <duelboot> just did it
[02:11] <spikeb> duelboot: i've noticed that both my linux and mac boxes sometimes take a while to show up, or dont bother to show up at all
[02:11] <zcat[1] > wait up to ten minutes..
[02:12] <jacob_> tahorg: is it? at any rate how do i configure?
[02:12] <tahorg> jacob_: well IIRC you need the windows driver
[02:12] <duelboot> does a reboot speed up the process?
[02:12] <jacob_> tahorg: have it
[02:12] <jacob_> tahorg: on my desktop
[02:12] <tahorg> jacob_: sorry I've used it long time ago
[02:12] <jacob_> tahorg: its ok
[02:12] <zcat[1] > reboot won't help.. other windows machines will take ages to 'find' new shares..
[02:12] <l_> can someone tell me if there is a way to convert .zip files into tarball?
[02:13] <tahorg> jacob_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[02:13] <jacob_> tahorg: ty
[02:13] <_jason> l_: unzip them and then tar them would be one way
[02:13] <spikeb> zcat[1] : yeah it's a real PITA
[02:13] <duelboot> Also, prior to trying to share I have a windows Network that shows up there, but nothing is ever in it...I have one windows box, would it show up by default?
[02:13] <zcat[1] > it's a feature of the design of SMB.. it can take up to ten minutes for a new share (or machine, or network) to show up on other machines..
[02:14] <duelboot> is there a way to mount a samba share without a gui so I can have it automatically do it each time I boot?
[02:14] <zcat[1] > If you want to move files to/from windows machines I'd recommend WinSCP, it's much more predictable.
[02:15] <jacob_> tahorg: how do i set the cd to desktop?
[02:15] <tahorg> jacob_: sorry I didn't understand the question
[02:15] <jacob_> tahorg: used to c:/documents and settings\jacob\desktop xD\
[02:15] <jacob_> the desktop
[02:15] <zcat[1] > you can add smb shares in /etc/fstab ..
[02:15] <jacob_> as in where you see the icons without opening windows
[02:15] <tahorg> jacob_: is your win partition mounted ?
[02:16] <zcat[1] > I can't remember the exact format offhand though
[02:16] <jacob_> tahorg: ? you mean windows
[02:16] <tahorg> jacob_: hoo, cd ~/Desktop
[02:16] <jacob_> tahorg: no, i had some trouble with it telling me that i had software that was not "genuinE"
[02:16] <jacob_> tahorg: ty
[02:16] <l_> can someone tell me what file format is needed to install an icon theme?
[02:16] <duelboot> zcat[1] , how do I get the name?  //computer_name/path ?
[02:16] <tahorg> jacob_: ~ means $HOME means /home/username
[02:17] <jacob_> tahorg bash: cd: /home/jacob/desktop: no such file or directory
[02:17] <zcat[1] > I can't remember the exact format.. something like that
[02:17] <tahorg> jacob_: unix are case sensitive
[02:17] <zcat[1] > Desktop not desktop..
[02:17] <tahorg> unixes
[02:17] <jacob_> oh
[02:17] <jacob_> thanks
[02:18] <tahorg> jacob_: tecnically
[02:18] <untung> hi
[02:18] <tahorg> +h
[02:18] <untung>  how to instal xine in ubuntu?
[02:18] <tahorg> jacob_: when you have ubuntu kernel and ndiswrapper set up
[02:18] <tahorg> jacob_: ndiswrapper -i thingy.inf
[02:18] <zcat[1] > dapper is so sweet..
[02:18] <tahorg> thingy.inf as the win driver
[02:19] <l_> can someone tell me what the proper file format is for installing icon themes/
[02:19] <Mastastealth> l_ a tar? ;)
[02:20] <zcat[1] > usuallt tgz or tbz I think..
[02:20] <jacob_> tahorg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13810
[02:20] <fanskap> hmm isn't it possible to mount ntfs partitions with read/write support within the ubuntu breezy liveCD ?
[02:20] <zcat[1] > most themes are a tarball..
[02:20] <zcat[1] > fanskap: possible yes, but not easy..
[02:21] <jacob_> tahorg: says that "driver present, hardware present"
[02:21] <fanskap> isn't easy?
[02:21] <fanskap> why's that?
[02:21] <Mastastealth> fanskap: not write, unless you want to take that risk
[02:21] <tahorg> jacob_: that is bad.
[02:21] <zcat[1] > ahhh.. for live CD I think it's not possible.. try knoppix
[02:21] <l_> Mastastealth: i downloaded an icon theme in zip format, unzipped it and then tarred it, but i still get an error message when i drag n drop into theme details
[02:21] <fanskap> Mastastealth: i want to take that risk since the only thing i need is to copy one network driver.
[02:21] <l_> Mastastealth: do you have a nideA?
[02:21] <zcat[1] > To write NTFS you need captive. I'm not sure if the live CD has it. knoppix definately did last time I used it.
[02:21] <Mastastealth> l_: where'd u get it? is it a windows theme?
[02:21] <Mastastealth> fanskap: then all you need is read no?
[02:22] <fanskap> no
[02:22] <fanskap> write support
[02:22] <fanskap> since i need to get it to the laptop
[02:22] <tahorg> jacob_: are you registered to be able to talk in private ?
[02:22] <Mastastealth> !ntfs
[02:22] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:22] <slackern> l_: You could try extracting the file so it's just a folder and put it in the .themes folder also.
[02:23] <Mastastealth> !captive
[02:23] <ubotu> well, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[02:23] <zcat[1] > If you try to write to ntfs with the linux drivers, you will likely zero any file you try to write to, and destroy any directory you try to create or delete a file in..
[02:23] <jacob_> tahorg: me thinks
[02:23] <Mastastealth> aw, well there u go fanskap, u cant
[02:23] <jacob_> tahorg: you pmed me
[02:23] <Mastastealth> captive is wut u would need
[02:23] <_jason> l_: they need to have the right directory structure
[02:23] <tahorg> jacob_: yes
[02:23] <Mastastealth> however, knoppix or something might be able to
[02:23] <jacob_> tahorg: i didn't realize that you had
[02:23] <tahorg> jacob_: but I've had no answer
[02:24] <l_> Mastastealth: no, the icons are all in .png format
[02:24] <jacob_> tahorg: i don't know what you are asking me to do
[02:24] <jacob_> tahorg: waht is an rmod?
[02:24] <tahorg> jacob_: rmmod ndiswrapper
[02:24] <tahorg> jacob_: it unloads the driver
[02:24] <jacob_> tahorg: what do i type?
[02:24] <vladuz976> what does framerate mean?
[02:24] <jacob_> tahorg: just that?
[02:24] <tahorg> jacob_: sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[02:24] <slackern> l_, is it an icon theme?
[02:24] <jacob_> tahnks
[02:25] <zcat[1] > if you want to move a file from ubuntu into windows, put it on a USB drive or email itself and pick up the mail in windows..
[02:25] <Mastastealth> vlad: in a game? in general the amount of frames displayed in a certain amount of time
[02:25] <l_> slackern: im not sure, how do i tell?
[02:25] <jacob_> tahorg: thanks... now what do i do
[02:25] <jacob_> tahorg: check again?
[02:25] <slackern> l_, maybe there is some information about the theme you downloaded?
[02:25] <tahorg> jacob_: try a 'ndiswrapper -l'
[02:25] <tahorg> jacob_: what does it say ?
[02:25] <tahorg> (with a sudo of course)
[02:26] <spikeb> l_: it sounds like it doesn't have the file that makes drag n drop installation easy, might have to manually put it where it belongs
[02:26] <tahorg> sudo ndiswrapper -l
[02:26] <spikeb> wherever that is
[02:26] <jacob_> tahorg: one sec
[02:26] <slackern> l_, the themes and such i used usually end up in ~/.themes or ~./icons
[02:26] <jacob_> wg311v3 driver present, hardware present
[02:26] <slackern> l_, but some themes are a mess :)
[02:26] <jacob_> tahorg: wg311v3 driver present, hardware present
[02:26] <spikeb> ~./icons/directoryfortheme
[02:27] <tahorg> jacob_: every thing is ok till now
[02:27] <jacob_> tahorg: it works?
[02:27] <tahorg> jacob_: now, load the driver "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[02:27] <tahorg> jacob_: not yet
[02:27] <jacob_> tahorg: ok
[02:27] <tahorg> jacob_: dmesg | tail
[02:27] <tahorg> jacob_: anything about ndiswrapper ?
[02:27] <jacob_> tahorg: just that
[02:28] <jacob_> tahorg: just type dmsg | tail in?
[02:28] <tahorg> jacob_: yes
[02:28] <jacob_> dmesg | tail
[02:28] <jacob_> oops
[02:28] <slackern> ^^
[02:28] <tahorg> jacob_: well, not here :)
[02:28] <jacob_> [4296042.513000]  ndiswrapper: device wlan0 removed
[02:28] <jacob_> [4296042.625000]  ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:0a.0 disabled
[02:28] <jacob_> [4296082.894000]  ndiswrapper version 1.1 loaded (preempt=no,smp=no)
[02:28] <jacob_> [4296082.900000]  ndiswrapper: driver wg311v3 (NETGEAR,02/22/2005,3.1.1.7) loaded[4296082.912000]  PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:0a.0 (0104 -> 0106)
[02:28] <jacob_> [4296082.912000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0a.0[A]  -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18
[02:28] <jacob_> [4296082.912000]  PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:0a.0 to 64
[02:28] <l_> spikeb: is there any way to change teh icons one by one?
[02:28] <jacob_> [4296082.914000]  ndiswrapper: using irq 18
[02:28] <jacob_> [4296083.459000]  wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:0f:b5:8c:be:c6 using driver wg311v3, configuration file 11AB:1FAA:1385:6B00.5.conf
[02:28] <slackern> !paste
[02:28] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[02:28] <jacob_> [4296083.459000]  wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP, WPA with TKIP, WPA with AES/CCMP
[02:28] <jacob_> sorry!
[02:28] <tahorg> jacob_: stop
[02:28] <jacob_> didn't realize it was that long
[02:29] <tahorg> jacob_: so till here, everything alright
[02:29] <jacob_> tahorg: cool
[02:29] <tahorg> jacob_: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[02:29] <jacob_> tahorg: k
[02:29] <tahorg> jacob_: do yo see your access point ?
[02:29] <tahorg> you
[02:30] <jacob_> tahorg: hold on... pastebinning
[02:31] <jacob_> tahorg: wait, yes, i see it
[02:31] <l_> is there any way to change teh icons on your system one by one?
[02:31] <tahorg> jacob_: so you're card is _almost_ working
[02:31] <jacob_> tahorg: 1337!
[02:31] <_jason> l_: not really, you can edit the themes in your ~/.themes pretty easily though
[02:31] <tahorg> jacob_: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "youressid"
[02:31] <jacob_> tahorg: kk
[02:32] <jacob_> tahorg: what about wep key?
[02:32] <tahorg> jacob_: then if it barks the same error as you've already pasted
[02:32] <tahorg> jacob_: something's wrong
[02:32] <jacob_> tahorg: i think it worked
[02:32] <jacob_> tahorg: no errors
[02:32] <tahorg> jacob_: for the key, it's sudo iwconfig wlan0 key MYKEYINHEXAFORM
[02:32] <jacob_> tahorg: but, it didn't say anthing
[02:33] <tahorg> jacob_: then everything's fine
[02:34] <tahorg> jacob_: could you paste me the output of iwconfig wlan0
[02:34] <l_> what is teh sfaest file sharing client for linux?
[02:34] <tahorg> if you put sudo in front of it, you key will be visible
[02:34] <jacob_> sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry,,, my                 computerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr doesssssssssssssssss thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis gay thinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng when                 i try to ppppppppppppppppput in weppppppppppppppppp,,, it mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmakesssssssssssssssss me gooooooooooooooooo like                 this
[02:34] <tahorg> wow.
[02:34] <tahorg> that's weird
[02:35] <tahorg> g2g, sorry jacob_
[02:35] <biovore> sounds like your wep stuff messes with your RTC
[02:35] <biovore> then again..  NDIS dose strang stuff..
[02:36] <newpers> i'm a slackware user and a friend of my is urging me to get ubuntu with server profile (what is server profile?  is it something i enable when installing?)
[02:37] <newpers> also would anyone advise against d/ling dapperdrake for use in a produciton server?
[02:37] <slackern> newpers: You can just choose server when you install at the bootprompt
[02:37] <biovore> newpers: when you go to install type server at the boot prompt..  it just installs ubuntu without X
[02:37] <_jason> newpers: yes, wait until it is officially released in less than 3 weeks
[02:37] <zcat[1] > newpers: absolutely..
[02:37] <slackern> newpers well it is still beta and not recommended
[02:37] <newpers> ohh.. i'll do that on the production server then.  on my workstation.. i'll just install as normal
[02:37] <zcat[1] > wait a couple of weeks after release and make sure nobody else has any major problems too..
[02:38] <slackern> newpers, i've been running it for some time now, and there are a few issues but most are because of the ati drivers for me.
[02:38] <zcat[1] > I'm running it desktop now but I wouldn't run a server on it quite yet
[02:38] <slackern> newpers, but beware that stuff can still break since it's under development.
[02:39] <newpers> so, you all would recommend that i d/l dapperdrake for personal use, right?
[02:39] <newpers> or should i wait on that as well
[02:39] <_jason> newpers: personal use is fine imo
[02:39] <newpers> _jason: thanks
[02:39] <slackern> newpers, and another tip is to use the textmode install if you want better control over the install
[02:39] <newpers> is there a netinstall?
[02:39] <zcat[1] > nautilus keeps crashing on me.. bit of a pain. and audacity's been playing up too..
[02:39] <slackern> newpers, there are some hacks for it i belive but no cd's that behave like debians netinstall as far as i know.
[02:40] <newpers> or what's the easiest way to install it.  distro's always come with 5 more cds than needed
[02:40] <zcat[1] > but generally it's pretty good.
[02:40] <slackern> it's just one cd.
[02:40] <_jason> newpers: ubuntu is a one cd install
[02:40] <newpers> yayzor!
[02:40] <zcat[1] > one CD and 200M of downloads to make it useful :)
[02:41] <newpers> not bad at all.  vim, lighttpd, postgresl, python, ipython, xorg, and gnome is all i need
[02:41] <slackern> atleast the reposotories are fast :)
[02:41] <byron_> I am trying ot add song to a playlist with songs that originate on another computer on the network, what would the netowrk dir be?
[02:41] <zcat[1] > yay for broadband!!
[02:41] <newpers> i'm assuming all of those packages are available for dapper, correct
[02:41] <slackern> newpers, you can check out packages.ubuntu.com for packages too
[02:41] <newpers> if it's 3 weeks away
[02:41] <newpers> slackern: thanks
[02:41] <slackern> newpers, if you need to see if something is missing.
[02:42] <byron_> where would my netowrk directory be
[02:42] <byron_> ?
[02:42] <five_laptop> hrmrmr
[02:42] <slackern> you can join #ubuntu+1 channel for dapper talk also.
[02:42] <five_laptop> i've got the multiverse repository in my sources list but i still can't get mythtv
[02:42] <zcat[1] > apt-get update ?
[02:42] <_jason> five_laptop: pastebin your sources.list please
[02:42] <slackern> five_laptop, i had some problems with multiverse now working properly also, i had to add it to another line.
[02:43] <slackern> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13813 there are the repos im using now
[02:44] <slackern> but those are for dapper though.
[02:44] <newpers> omg, dapper has everything i need.  amazing
[02:44] <five_laptop> well ... i have the binary universe in there... should i add the src deb too?
[02:44] <_jason> five_laptop: you don't need the source deb unless you want the source :P
[02:44] <five_laptop> aight
[02:45] <_jason> five_laptop: make sure you have multiverse enabled for breezy, not just breezy-backports
[02:45] <zcat[1] > dapper doesn't have lives.. I needed a 3rd party repo..
[02:45] <newpers> last question (until i run into some installation problem by chance)...where do i d/l the dapper iso?
[02:45] <_jason> zcat[1] : lives?
[02:45] <five_laptop> _jason, ahem...  i'm in dapper... :-)
[02:45] <_jason> five_laptop: then you should be in the dapper channel: #ubuntu+1 :)
[02:45] <ice> anyone have nvidia 6600 gt card using Dapper ?
[02:46] <five_laptop> ah
[02:46] <five_laptop> gracias
[02:46] <zcat[1] > video editor
[02:46] <zcat[1] > like kino except kino won't import my files :(
[02:46] <slackern> newpers,  i got mine from http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/
[02:47] <slackern> newpers, but that's a swedish server though
[02:47] <slackern> newpers, http://www.ubuntu.com/download might be better for you though.
[02:47] <l_> hi, i have this suspision that my xserver is not using all available video memory, is there a way i can check?
[02:48] <JayAll> Ok, so my laptop has been freezing up lately - I mean, the whole thing just stops, no response, even the animation on the cursor stops (if there happens to be one at the time). This seems to happen at totally random, arbitrary moments when nothing is going on (I'm usually not even touching it). Is this in any way possibly related to Ubuntu? (p.s. the system goes bgack to normal after I knock...
[02:48] <JayAll> ...it out and reboot)
[02:49] <anzio_> anyone know anything about linpal?
[02:49] <zcat[1] > JayAll: try running knoppix on it.. if that locks up, get a new laptop.
[02:49] <slackern> l_, you could read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find the information
[02:50] <JayAll> !linpal
[02:50] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JayAll
[02:50] <slackern> l_, mine says:  (II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=131072K, accessible=131072K (PCI BAR=131072K)
[02:50] <JayAll> zcat[1] : I was looking for an answer, not a suggestion. I'd have no problem trying to diagnose it myself; I just don't want to. ;)
[02:50] <JayAll> Thanks for your help though
[02:50] <anzio_> well specifically I'm being told there is no package "gtk+-2.0"
[02:50] <anzio_> is that a typo in the makefile?
[02:51] <zcat[1] > JayAll: well. Stop pasting into the channel, get off your lazy ass and stop expecting us to diagnose your problems for you.
[02:52] <anzio_> whoa?
[02:52] <JayAll> anzio_: no, it's valid
[02:52] <zcat[1] > JayAll: seriously it sounds like a hardware problem anyhow..
[02:52] <anzio_> !gtk+-2.0
[02:52] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, anzio_
[02:52] <JayAll> zcat[1] : That's what I'm thinking
[02:52] <JayAll> anzio_: no that is the right spelling
[02:52] <JayAll> try installing it with apt-get
[02:52] <amac> how do I make my windows mount readable by regular users?
[02:53] <slackern> !ntfs
[02:53] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:53] <anzio_> sudo apt-get gtk+-2.0 correct?
[02:53] <na7e> anyone know what channel would be appropriate for evolution issues?
[02:53] <amac> how do you know what triggers the bot knows about?
[02:53] <amac> !fat
[02:53] <ubotu> amac: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:53] <JayAll> amac: it's in /etc/fstab, read the man page on mount.ntfs; I don't know how to do it exactly
[02:53] <juanky700> hola
[02:53] <JayAll> s/know/remember
[02:53] <Madpilot> amac, /msg ubotu list
[02:53] <JayAll> anzio_: sudo apt-get install gtk+-2.0
[02:53] <anzio_> ahh thank you
[02:54] <amac> you know what someone needs to invent? They need to invent a karma help system. The more people you help, the more karma you get =)
[02:54] <enyaw> yes thank you
[02:54] <na7e> anyone please?
[02:54] <amac> so you know people that contribute to help discussion and those that dont
[02:54] <anzio_> dang its telling me it can't find the package
[02:54] <JayAll>  /applaud amac
[02:55] <JayAll> anzio_: apt-cache search gtk+-2.0
[02:55] <Madpilot> amac, launchpad has karma (Ubuntu's bug reporter and other stuff website) but there's no links to lp from IRC or the forums
[02:55] <amac> its a great idea
[02:55] <JayAll> Madpilot: I think he meant for IRC :P
[02:55] <amac> for forums mostly
[02:55] <amac> help forums *
[02:55] <jacob_> you still there?!
[02:55] <jacob_> sorry about that
[02:55] <JayAll> amac, slashdot
[02:55] <jacob_> i had some major trouble on my computer
[02:55] <Wyred> hi, anyone know the url for MAcromedia flash player plugin?
[02:56] <jacob_> i had to use another computer with chatzilla
[02:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell Wyred about flash
[02:56] <zcat[1] > nah, then irc would get like slashdot.. karma whores pasting old and inappropriate help at irrelevent questions just to score karma
[02:56] <jacob_> it won't startup
[02:56] <Wyred> tried the one on the macromedia/go/get site and it's not pointing to anything
[02:56] <amac> zcat[1] , i am sure you could do something to discourage that
[02:56] <spikeb> it's either karma whores or assholes, take your pick
[02:56] <zcat[1] > yeah.. not have a karma system )
[02:57] <jacob_> you there?!
[02:57] <Wyred> ty
[02:57] <jacob_> ... must have left :( (very helpful)
[02:57] <bradley> hi i've just installed ubuntu on my toshiba notebook and (for right now) i am trying to get the blue tooth to work-- does anyone have any advice
[02:57] <hyphenated> Wyred: flashplugin-nonfree is in the multiverse repository
[02:58] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell bradley about bluetooth
[02:59] <na7e> anyone had experience getting groupwise 6.5 client or evolution and a 6.5 groupwise server working?
[02:59] <bradley> okay thanks i'm checkin' that out
[03:00] <jacob_> well, sience he is gone... can someone tell me what to do, if on NDISwrapper, i try to put up a WEP key and the computer just freaks out and starts making me type extra letters and such, and then when i restart it won't let me boot all the way
[03:01] <jacob_> w3ber: it won't let me PM :(
[03:02] <jacob_> ubotu, tell jacob_ about ndiswrapper
[03:02] <zcat[1] > jacob_: using the modified drivers from ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net? the original drivers usually don't work till they're patched
[03:02] <anzio_> whats tyhat command to search for stuff? sudo apt-cache search or something?
[03:02] <wildson> quem e
[03:02] <jacob_> zcat[1] : what?!
[03:02] <zcat[1] > apt-cache search.. you can search as an ordinary user
[03:02] <_jason> anzio_: apt-cache search, no sudo required
[03:03] <watnu> ndiswrapper & wireless_tool.28.tar.gz
[03:03] <wildson> vc fala portugues
[03:03] <anzio_> thx
[03:03] <_jason> !pt
[03:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:03] <jacob_> zcat[1] : but, i don't know how to install, plus i can't get it to boot
[03:04] <dabaR> slow
[03:04] <Sky0231> Is there anyone here who might be able to assists me in determining why my dual monitor setup is not working?
[03:04] <jacob_> hold on... lemme see if it is booting yet.. may have to reinstall ubuntu :(
[03:05] <slackern> learning is a slow and painful process :)
[03:05] <jacob_> is there any way to repair ubuntu just from the terminal?
[03:06] <Madpilot> jacob_, that depends what you broke ;)
[03:06] <jacob_> madpilot: :(
[03:06] <Sky0231> Does anyone know if an integrated video card that is not being used as the main adapter needs to be "initialized," or something along those lines, so that it will work?
[03:06] <w3ber> jacob_, Boot into recovery mode.
[03:06] <jacob_> w3ber: how?
[03:06] <nadine__> hello all
[03:06] <l_> can someone tell me what the proper usage of the rename command is? i am having som etrouble with it
[03:06] <w3ber> If you haven't modified your grub menu.lst file, you should have it in your boot loader menu.
[03:07] <jacob_> w3ber: can you tell me how to do that just using the terminal
[03:07] <nadine__> i'm having problems getting samba two work
[03:07] <anseljh> hi!  anyone here know about ubuntu-server?  if so, which is the latest dapper release of it and how is it?
[03:07] <l_> or can someoen tell me the best way to rename a file?
[03:07] <nadine__> using two ubuntu boxes (one breezy, one dapper)
[03:07] <nadine__> but i've had this ish since hoary
[03:07] <jacob_> w3ber: grub just tells me "Starting ubuntu in 3... 2... 1... *start*"
[03:07] <w3ber> jacob_, Press a key during 3,2,1.
[03:08] <jacob_> w3ber: one sec
[03:08] <watnu> jacob_: after repairing or reinstalling ubu, install: ndiswrapper & wireless_tool.28.tar.gz
[03:08] <Wyred> ta hyphenated
[03:08] <nadine__> basically: it just won't work
[03:08] <nadine__> i just want to share home directories
[03:08] <nadine__> nothing fancy
[03:08] <nadine__> but it won't work
[03:09] <roostishaw> anyone, is there an emulator like wine, but it emulates mac?
[03:10] <watnu> that would be nice, an osx 10.* emulator
[03:10] <MSchoen> Hello, anyone available for a quick question?
[03:11] <Sky0231> Mschoen, depends, whats the question?
[03:11] <jacob_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13810
[03:12] <watnu> Mschoen: you already asked
[03:12] <Zane42> I'm trying to get an app for ubuntu that supports nzb.
[03:12] <MSchoen> Sky0231: I was hoping someone could send me there sources.list, to update mine, mozilla-firefox doesnt seem to be working, I wanted to get some stable repositories.
[03:12] <Zane42> It looks like dapper has a package called nzb.
[03:12] <nadine__> can anyone help me with my samba problem?
[03:12] <Zane42> But it's not available for breezy?
[03:13] <ddonky> nadine_ - just ask!
[03:13] <watnu> nzbget
[03:13] <Zane42> Tried it watnu can't get it to work either.
[03:13] <Zane42> I've got the default perl install.
[03:13] <watnu> argh
[03:13] <Zane42> That may be the reason.
[03:13] <MSchoen> Perhaps someone would be kind enough to whisper me their sources.list content.
[03:13] <Zane42> I don't know.
[03:13] <jacob_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13810
[03:14] <lali_> hey guys
[03:14] <ddonky> nadine_ - oh, sorry. I just back scrolled
[03:14] <lali_> how do i change the windows theme "colors"
[03:14] <lali_> the theme is way 2 bright
[03:14] <lali_> i wana modify the colors
[03:14] <roostishaw> so there is no emulator like wine, but it emulates mac?
[03:14] <lali_> so its like black and white text
[03:14] <nadine__> ddonky: actually
[03:15] <nadine__> just realized that my problem is with gnome/nautilus
[03:15] <nadine__> i can browse samba with kde just fine
[03:15] <Sky0231> mschoen: What distro do you have?
[03:15] <watnu> Zane42: SABnzb-0.1.8 ?
[03:15] <nadine__> i mean konqueror
[03:15] <Zane42> watnu ok I'll give it a try.
[03:15] <Zane42> it's the ./configure gives an error.
[03:15] <MSchoen> Ubuntu 5.10
[03:15] <nadine__> but if i try to browse the windows network through the Places --> Network servers menu I get 0 items
[03:16] <MSchoen> Aha, Sky0231: I didnt notice that 4 addresses were commented by default in sources.list
[03:16] <lali_> yo
[03:16] <lali_> how do i change my theme colors ?
[03:16] <Sky0231> mschoen: yep, you'll want to uncomment those
[03:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell lali_ about themes
[03:17] <MSchoen> Sky0231: Ah my bad, this is my first Ubuntu experience, from debian :P
[03:17] <slackern> !themes
[03:17] <Sky0231> mschoen: I see, well, good luck
[03:17] <watnu> !beer
[03:17] <ubotu> watnu: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:17] <BlueLaguna> is there any way for me to automatically install -dev packages along with normal packages?
[03:17] <lali_> thx madpilot
[03:17] <watnu> :)
[03:18] <MSchoen> Dky0231: While you're here, this may be bonehead, but what is the proper way to update a certain package that you already have installed, lets say GAIM for example
[03:18] <MSchoen> Sky0231*
[03:18] <MSchoen> apt-get upgrade <package>
[03:18] <MSchoen> ?
[03:18] <Zane42> watnu when I try ./configure in nzbget I get the following: configure: error: "libxml2 header files were not found in /usr/include/libxml2."
[03:18] <BlueLaguna> MSchoen: the gaim beta is not in the repositories by the way
[03:18] <BlueLaguna> if that's what you were going to upgrade to
[03:19] <MSchoen> Ah ok.
[03:19] <ddonky> nadine_ - how about Places --> Connect to server...?
[03:19] <BlueLaguna> you'll have to compile it manually
[03:19] <MSchoen> Alright, thank you kindly.
[03:19] <BlueLaguna> I'm using it right now
[03:19] <BlueLaguna> MSchoen: alternatively, you can search for a .deb package
[03:19] <Sky0231> Mschoen: If I am not mistaken, i think apt-get upgrade upgrades everything
[03:19] <Sky0231> Mschoen: HOnestly, Im very new to linux as a whole
[03:20] <nadine__> ddonky: yup, that works.
[03:20] <BlueLaguna> I'm a long time linux desktop user tho
[03:20] <BlueLaguna> and server
[03:20] <nadine__> why won't it work while straight up browsing the network, though?
[03:21] <Sky0231> I see. Ive been wanting to get into Linux for a long time, but I found it was a lot of work to get hardware configured. Like now, Im trying to get my dual monitors working.
[03:21] <Zane42> watnu I have libxml2 it's jsut  apparently not where it expects it to be any idea?
[03:21] <ddonky> I just tried to browse my roomies share, and it didn't show at first, so I used 'Connect to server' once, and now it shows up in Naut. I'm not sure why though
[03:22] <BlueLaguna> Zane42: are you trying to compile something?
[03:22] <Zane42> I'm trying to install nzbget
[03:22] <Zane42> so yeah...
[03:22] <jacob_> shut up
[03:22] <jacob_> i hat u
[03:22] <Zane42> unless I can find the package somewhere.
[03:22] <jacob_> shut up
[03:22] <jacob_> leave me alone
[03:23] <BlueLaguna> Zane42: whenever you compile something, make sure you have the -dev package installed
[03:23] <watnu> Zane42: man symlink, to tell the application where to find
[03:23] <BlueLaguna> Zane42: in this case, libxml2-dev
[03:23] <BlueLaguna> watnu: I think he's trying to compile and he's getting ./configure errors
[03:23] <BlueLaguna> at least that what I'm assuming
[03:24] <Zane42>   ?
[03:24] <Zane42> Nope that' doesn't work.
[03:24] <Zane42> mutter.
[03:25] <BlueLaguna> Zane42: well, first of all, are you running ./configure ?
[03:25] <Zane42> Yes
[03:25] <Zane42> That's what's giving me an error.
[03:25] <BlueLaguna> did you run ./configure again after installing libxml2-dev?
[03:25] <Zane42> I'm having trouble figuring out how to install that.
[03:26] <Zane42> apt-get install libxml2-dev doesn't work.
[03:26] <BlueLaguna> Zane42: what does it say?
[03:26] <Zane42> Sorry I was typing it wrong.
[03:26] <Zane42> ;-)
[03:26] <BlueLaguna> ...
[03:26] <BlueLaguna> ok
[03:27] <Zane42> Got a couple of warnings now but now error.
[03:27] <Zane42> So now make right?
[03:27] <mugzie> can someone help me add real and java to my firefox
[03:27] <snakka> you don't want to use automatix to do that?
[03:27] <mugzie> to do what?
[03:27] <snakka> to add real and java
[03:28] <mugzie> i can do that im new to linux
[03:28] <Madpilot> snakka, he probably doesn't want to break his system...
[03:28] <Madpilot> !automatix
[03:28] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:28] <ezili> <-- formerly known as nadine_
[03:28] <vipoet> lol
[03:28] <vipoet> thats great
[03:28] <snakka> I didn't know about easyubuntu
[03:28] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell mugzie about java
[03:28] <vipoet> in every way
[03:29] <Zane42> BlueLaguna: make errors.
[03:29] <snakka> I knew automatix isn't integrated with ubuntu very well, but it gets the job done for people with little time.
[03:29] <Zane42> make: g++: Command not found
[03:29] <BlueLaguna> Zane42: http://pastebin.com
[03:29] <mugzie> also how do i setup real player
[03:29] <BlueLaguna> mugzie: http://real.com
[03:29] <snakka> I think the security problems in all the os's these days are drowning out all the other issues personally...
[03:30] <mugzie> ok i went there
[03:30] <mugzie> i downloaded it but dont i have to instal in terminal?
[03:31] <grout> how can i get gdesklets to automatically start at startup?
[03:31] <Zane42> I thought since
[03:32] <Zane42> Mutter every time I do this, there's something else goes worng.
[03:32] <Zane42> er
[03:32] <Zane42> wrong
[03:32] <Zane42> I did apt-get install g++
[03:32] <Zane42> Now I've got a huge error.
[03:33] <ericvw> i was wondering if anyone could help me out with a cpu fan problem?  it kicks on at a certain temperature, but it won't kick off
[03:33] <ericvw> i have a dell inspiron 8600
[03:33] <Zane42> Let me see if I can fix it myself.
[03:33] <Zane42> Be back in a bit.
[03:39] <daryl_> I do not want my wine installation upgraded, because I've custom compiled it.  I went into Synaptic Package Manager, in ubuntu - breezy, and searched for wine, and selected package, and lock.  However, when i start my computer, it prompts me to upgrade wine.  any suggestions?
[03:40] <vipoet> i hate wine
[03:40] <vipoet> sorry; cant help here
[03:40] <daryl_> the answer should be the same no matter what software i'm running
[03:41] <NoobSauce> I have a question regarding kubuntu installation. I tried burning 3 kubuntu CD's (6.06 dapper) and none of them will boot. I've tried a debian netinst which works, and I have the boot order correct and everything, so I'm at a loss at to what the problem could be
[03:41] <vipoet> yeah, i refuse to help windows binary hacks
[03:41] <vipoet> sorry; cant help here
[03:42] <daryl_> noobsauce: fogive me, but just because the bootsource is selected to do the cdrom first, doesn't mean it will auto load
[03:42] <daryl_> noobsauce: it may require intervention
[03:42] <daryl_> ie hitting space, or selecitng it from a menu
[03:42] <daryl_> it depends on the board really
[03:42] <NoobSauce> the debian cd booted up automatically... but I guess I'll try that
[03:43] <tatosan> Anyone knows if Ubuntu can be installed on a G5 dualprocessor Apple Mac?
[03:43] <NoobSauce> hold on just a sec...
[03:43] <daryl_> I do not want my wine installation upgraded, because I've custom compiled it.  I went into Synaptic Package Manager, in ubuntu - breezy, and searched for wine, and selected package, and lock.  However, when i start my computer, it prompts me to upgrade wine.  any suggestions?
[03:43] <Lemino> why is the searchengine's in firefox placed in the root-access-only catalogue /usr/lib? it's kinda hard to add new ones and organize them...
[03:44] <denver> what is the package name for the kernel headers for 2.6.12-10-386
[03:44] <daryl_> mustard5: you got time for a question?
[03:45] <bimberi> denver: linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[03:45] <mustard5> daryl_, possibly :)
[03:45] <denver> well, i guess i could have figured that one out :)
[03:45] <vipoet> lol
[03:45] <denver> but thanks bimberi
[03:45] <Lemino> if I add new ones, they end up in my home-directory, as they're supposed to, but they don't show up in firefox when the program is running :(
[03:45] <daryl_> mustard5: I do not want my wine installation upgraded, because I've custom compiled it.  I went into Synaptic Package Manager, in ubuntu - breezy, and searched for wine, and selected package, and lock.  However, when i start my computer, it prompts me to upgrade wine.  any suggestions?
[03:45] <bimberi> denver: np :)  (it's the linux bit that traps people - kernel seems more intuitive)
[03:46] <daryl_> mustard5: and good evening! its great to see you.  I have World of Warcraft running like a rock!
[03:46] <mustard5> daryl_, hmmm...not quite sure..you say you 'locked' it..is that the same as 'pinning' it
[03:46] <mustard5> daryl_, thats good to hear
[03:47] <limen> what program should I use to get my computer act as a server? Do I have to install apache?
[03:47] <daryl_> mustard5: i dunno about 'pinning" it... but if you go to thye synpatic, and cselect a package, then click on the package drop down menu, you'll see lock version
[03:47] <tritium> limen: depends on what kind of server you mean
[03:47] <limen> tritium, webserver
[03:48] <mustard5> daryl_, did you add the wine repositories to download this version you have now?
[03:48] <tritium> limen: then yes, apache or apache2
[03:48] <_extricate_> !define sudo
[03:48] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _extricate_
[03:48] <Yvonne> Nothing was found. Maybe you meant  1. pseudo  2. pseudo-  3. scudo  4. suds  5. Sudd  6. soda  7. sods  8. Sodom  9. Soddy 10. zooids 11. sudd 12. sawed-off 13. Saudi 14. pseuds
[03:48] <_extricate_> !sudo
[03:48] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:48] <hyphenated> limen: installing apache is a good start :-)
[03:48] <_extricate_> !root
[03:48] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:48] <limen> ok, thats what I'll do then ^^;
[03:48] <hyphenated> !lamp
[03:48] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:49] <limen> thx
[03:49] <hyphenated> limen: what ubotu just said might be more inline with your overall goal :-)
[03:49] <tokennrg> !lsofs
[03:49] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tokennrg
[03:49] <tokennrg> !lsof
[03:49] <ubotu> list open files
[03:49] <mustard5> daryl_, I'm just curious if you did, as you could just comment out the line for the wine repositories in your sources.list and it would no longer even know about the update
[03:50] <tritium> !botabuse
[03:50] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[03:50] <daryl_> mustard5: I beleive so, but its possible i downloaded the souce directly
[03:51] <daryl_> mustard5: i could remove the sourceforge.net repositories from my rrepositories
[03:51] <mustard5> daryl_, try opening up your /etc/apt/sources.list  and putting a '#' in front of the lines for the wine repos..then sudo apt-get update
[03:52] <LadyNikon> evening
[03:52] <mustard5> daryl_, at that stage the system won't even know that an update exists, so it will stop nagging you to update
[03:52] <daryl_> mustard5: that fixed it
[03:52] <mustard5> daryl_, cool
[03:52] <LadyNikon> I have a breezy badger install that for some reason my network card is not working
[03:52] <daryl_> mustard5: thanks.  : )
[03:52] <LadyNikon> it sees the wap
[03:52] <mustard5> daryl_, I'm a bit the same myself..once I have wine working I don't like to change anything
[03:53] <daryl_> mustard5: and I totally reinstalled ubuntu-breezy, and ditched dapper.  I am now running on wine, and not cedega
[03:53] <LadyNikon> but its not connecting
[03:53] <daryl_> mustard5: its running awesome
[03:53] <mustard5> daryl_, excellent :)
[03:53] <daryl_> mustard5: now that i switched i dont' have the mosue cursor bug... and the game is just much more stable
[03:53] <daryl_> mustard5: the graphic interface is better, etc
[03:54] <LadyNikon> if i do "iwconfig" It sees the ESSID but no signal or anything.
[03:54] <daryl_> mustard5: although I have noticed the sound is more 'crackly' w/this installation.  any suggestions?  when i switch between workspaces, wow kinda hangs on the sound for a moment before going to normal
[03:54] <BlueLaguna> hmm, how do I add /usr/local/lib to my library path again?
[03:54] <dooglus> is there any way I can ask mplayer to buffer up a few megs of the movie I'm trying to watch before playing it?  It's on an SMB mount on a remote windows box
[03:54] <mustard5> daryl_, I don't have any ideas about that situation unfortunately :)
[03:54] <puntoUY>  hello.. i've installed the apache2-mpm-worker package.. i i want now install the php for use phph pages.. wath package need?
[03:54] <SiLvALyNiN> hey, can anyone tell me whether or not I will have any problems installing this on a SATA drive?
[03:55] <daryl_> mustard5: : ) ah well thanks a bunch for the help w/wine
[03:55] <daryl_> have a great evening!
[03:55] <mustard5> daryl_, will do :)
[03:55] <daryl_> and vipoet, good luck in your anti-wine-windows-hacker mentality
[03:55] <daryl_> hehe
[03:55] <daryl_> night all!
[03:56] <LadyNikon> I don't understand though.. because all I did was reinstall ubuntu
[03:56] <LadyNikon> worked fine before hand.
[03:56] <rabidphage> greetings
[03:57] <mugzie> hey why is the xubuntu channel dead?
[03:57] <rabidphage> is it possible to share internet connection in infrastructure mode using off the shelf wireless cards?
[03:57] <dooglus> is there any way I can ask mplayer to buffer up a few megs of the movie I'm trying to watch before playing it?  It's on an SMB mount on a remote windows box
[03:58] <LadyNikon> dooglus: some where in the options you might see something
[03:58] <rabidphage> dooglus: there is a way but i fogot how
[03:58] <LadyNikon> rabidphage: some thing i was thinking.
[03:58] <dooglus> LadyNikon: I see the -cache option, but it only seems to work if the movie is being streamed.
[03:58] <dooglus> since it's on a mounted filesystem, mplayer ignores the option.
[03:59] <LadyNikon> ah
[03:59] <LadyNikon> why would you want to buffer a movie on the HD?
[03:59] <ablyss> dooglus: you can wget the file and use mplayer to read the contents of the file while its downloading
[03:59] <rabidphage> yeah why?
[03:59] <dooglus> LadyNikon: it's not on the HD
[03:59] <dooglus> ablyss: I can do that, but then I can't skip back and forth through the movie
[04:00] <vipoet> wine makes me puke
[04:00] <rabidphage> is it possible to share internet connection in infrastructure mode using off the shelf wireless cards?
[04:00] <dooglus> ablyss: it says "Cannot seek in raw AVI streams. (Index required, try with the -idx switch.)" if I try
[04:00] <SiLvALyNiN> will i have a problem installing this on a sata drive?
[04:00] <rabidphage> i can't afford to buy a router but i've got some wireless cards lying around
[04:01] <ablyss> dooglus, got me there.. i dont use mplayer much anymore
[04:01] <dooglus> ablyss: I'm not sure how to wget from a mounted filesystem - I used 'cat' instead
[04:01] <hyphenated> dooglus: and when you use -idx, what happens?
[04:01] <dooglus> ablyss: what do you use?  can that buffer files?
[04:01] <dooglus> hyphenated: -idx reads the whole file before starting to play it.  that's no use to me
[04:02] <dooglus> hyphenated: if I wanted to wait that long I'd just copy the file to my local disk first...
[04:02] <ablyss> dooglus, i use xfmedia
[04:02] <dooglus> ablyss: I'll try that
[04:02] <SiLvALyNiN> umm can anyone answer me?
[04:03] <FliesLikeABrick> no SiLvALyNiN  you should not
[04:03] <SiLvALyNiN> thank you
[04:03] <LadyNikon> i guess i will check tomorrow gn all
[04:03] <hyphenated> dooglus: it's odd that -cache isn't working for you
[04:03] <dooglus> ablyss: it's taking a long time to start up - maybe that's a good sign.
[04:03] <SiLvALyNiN> also, should i make a partition now for it, or should i do that while installing
[04:03] <vipoet> lates lady
[04:03] <dooglus> hyphenated: I don't think -cache works when it's reading from a file
[04:03] <puntoUY> la madre q lo pario... no puedo instalar php.... gringos
[04:04] <BlueEagle> puntouy: #ubuntu-es por favour.
[04:04] <Chicken__Fire> Hi, who knows a 3d file manager project ?
[04:04] <BlueEagle> chicken__fire: You want to manage 3d files?
[04:04] <puntoUY> thanks blueeagle
[04:04] <BlueEagle> chicken__fire: ...or do you want to manage files in 3d?
[04:04] <dooglus> ablyss: xfmedia seems to play the video OK, but without any sound.  or pictures.
[04:05] <vipoet> tc's?
[04:05] <vipoet> ^waste
[04:05] <dooglus> ablyss: I do see a nice little timer counting up the minutes and seconds though
[04:05] <ablyss> dooglus: bummer
[04:05] <Chicken__Fire> manage files in 3d.
[04:05] <vipoet> xgl based?
[04:05] <BlueEagle> dooglus: that's going on bash.org
[04:05] <KeithWeisshar> i have a new intel pentium d pc with windows xp
[04:05] <dooglus> BlueEagle: nice :)
[04:06] <KeithWeisshar> it has an intel 945g motherboard
[04:06] <KeithWeisshar> is ubuntu compatible with intel hd audio
[04:07] <BlueEagle> chicken__fire: brutal file manager (I recomend running it in read only mode) http://www.forchheimer.se/bfm/
[04:08] <Echo> anybody knows how to recover yaboot on a multi-boot mac?(osx & ubuntu)
[04:08] <KeithWeisshar> is ubuntu compatible with the sigmatel stac 9220 chipset
[04:08] <roe> anyone around per chance?
[04:09] <BlueEagle> roe: I'm here, not by chance but by choice. (or something)
[04:09] <puntoUY> i heve installed the package apache2-mpm-worker... and my problem is wich package i need to enable php.. not prefork
[04:10] <puntoUY> what package i need?
[04:10] <roe> I am trying to install flight 7... and it keeps hanging at 50% of "starting up the partioner"
[04:11] <BlueEagle> roe: #ubuntu+1 please (as it sais in the topic of this channel)
[04:11] <Madpilot> roe, #ubuntu+1 for Dapper questions
[04:11] <roe> ah.. sorry :)
[04:13] <BlueEagle> !info innolab
[04:13] <BlueEagle> chicken__fire: also see http://sourceforge.net/projects/innolab/ (apperantly not in the repos)
[04:26] <coolio> hey guys.. i'm very new to linux
[04:27] <coolio> i just installed mythtv
[04:27] <coolio> but i dont know the path where it is installed.
[04:27] <coolio> is there a default directory where programs are installed?
[04:27] <crimsun> coolio: /usr/bin .
[04:27] <coolio> thanks
[04:28] <coolio> installed mythtv by using sudo apt-get install mythtv
[04:28] <coolio> i installed*
[04:29] <coolio> and i dont see it in /usr/bin
[04:29] <coolio> could it be installed in a directory other than /usr/bin/mythtv?
[04:31] <paradizelost> howdy!
[04:31] <Chri[s] > coolio, sudo find / -name mythtv
[04:31] <crimsun> coolio: if you installed it, you should have /usr/bin/myth{epg,frontend,progfind,tv,osd}
[04:31] <crimsun> coolio: those are all part of mythtv-frontend, which is a dependency of the mythtv metapackage
[04:32] <slackern> 'which mythtv' will also say where it is
[04:32] <Chri[s] > whereis mythtv, will as well
[04:33] <SiLvALyNiN> ok can somebody please help, i just tried running a Live cd, and that won't even work
[04:33] <SiLvALyNiN> i then did a cd integrity test, and it said that the first .cloop file failed the MD5 checksum
[04:33] <SiLvALyNiN> so what do I do?
[04:33] <Chri[s] > SiLvALyNiN: do you have an 8x speed cdrom?
[04:33] <coolio> thanks for your advice
[04:33] <SiLvALyNiN> umm, no it's 52x cd-rw
[04:33] <Chri[s] > reburn it
[04:33] <SiLvALyNiN> should i burn it slower?
[04:33] <MagicFab> hello
[04:34] <Chri[s] > yes
[04:34] <Chri[s] > like 16x
[04:34] <MagicFab> has anyone seen how the network printer detection in the latest cups works ?
[04:34] <coolio> hum.. these are not folders right?
[04:34] <MagicFab> it' s in the new features, can' t seem to find it
[04:34] <untung> hi
[04:34] <SiLvALyNiN> ok, and would you be able to link me to a md5 checksum checker or something
[04:34] <SiLvALyNiN> to make sure the iso isn't corrup to begin with
[04:34] <untung> have anyone installed dvd burner in ubuntu 5.1
[04:34] <coolio> i have a file called 'mythtv' without an extension
[04:35] <coolio> am i correct?
[04:35] <coolio> are files in /usr/bin/ files without file extensions?
[04:35] <tokennrg> coolio: most executable files (namely compiled ones) don't have extensions
[04:35] <paradizelost> coolio: most things in unix/linux don't have extensions
[04:35] <tokennrg> you just type 'mythtv' or whaterver and it runs
[04:35] <eggzeck> coolio, they don't need extensions. Even though they can have them
[04:36] <paradizelost> linux knows what the files do, there's info inside of them that tells it what to do w/ it
[04:36] <paradizelost> basically
[04:36] <eggzeck> coolio, take for instance a Perl progrem: 'perl.pl' will work even if it were named 'perl'. It's all in the permissions, if its set to 'x' then it's executable
[04:36] <tokennrg> also, linux isn't quite lain out like a Windows setup is, a folder for each app.  Executables are in one place, needed librairies in another, configs in another
[04:37] <eggzeck> coolio, also, there's a thing called 'the shebang line'; which looks like this: #!/usr/bin/perl (which tells the system which program will execute the rest of the file)
[04:37] <clif> can any one help I'm trying to install yahoo messanger and it won't install becaus it says it need libssl0.9.6 or better I have libssl0.9.7 installed and the yahoomessange pagacge will not install any one know how I can fix this problem
[04:37] <SiLvALyNiN> would somebody please be able to tell me what the correct md5 checksum is for the amd64 live cd?
[04:37] <crimsun> SiLvALyNiN: breezy? dapper?
[04:38] <coolio> alright thanks!
[04:38] <MagicFab> clif: dapper ?
[04:38] <SiLvALyNiN> breezy i believe
[04:38] <krazykit> righto.  i want to install avidemux, but i need to add a deb line to my sources.list.  there are 3 choices:sarge, etch, and sid.  obviously, it's for debian, but which one is closest for breezy?
[04:38] <coolio> so are the programs in /usr/bin dependent on any other files on the system?
[04:38] <tokennrg> 7fbe948be484ba2f4740ab6113890652  ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso
[04:38] <coolio> other than standard libraries
[04:38] <crimsun> SiLvALyNiN: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/breezy/MD5SUMS
[04:38] <clif> dapper? I'm new to ununtu is that something thats part of ubuntu
[04:39] <paradizelost> clif: why don't you just use gaim?
[04:39] <SiLvALyNiN> wow mine is completely different
[04:39] <MagicFab> dapper is the version
[04:39] <crimsun> SiLvALyNiN: so for amd64 live, 8523ee4b5490c9b77ac4ec5e5a12b2f5
[04:39] <paradizelost> !dapper
[04:39] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:39] <crimsun> tokennrg: you pasted install
[04:39] <tokennrg> gah, oops.  My bad
[04:39] <SiLvALyNiN> mine is completely different it seems
[04:39] <SiLvALyNiN> starts with bf41...
[04:40] <clif> gaim will that allow me to talk to my friends on yahoo or will that fix my problem... sorry it's been over 10 years since I have had a unix machine
[04:40] <krazykit> which branch of debian is breezy based on?  sid?
[04:40] <sol_> hello
[04:40] <crimsun> krazykit: none
[04:40] <paradizelost> clif: gaim lets you use yahoo,msn,aol,irc,icq etc... all in one program
[04:40] <paradizelost> however, it doesn't have support for the video stuff, IIRC
[04:40] <SiLvALyNiN> should i just re-download the iso?
[04:40] <krazykit> crimsun: really?  guess it was hoary, then.
[04:41] <crimsun> krazykit: we sync with sid at the beginning of each dev cycle, and then we pull from sid/experimental periodically
[04:41] <clif> ok whould I find that in the package installed or do I need to go download that from some where
[04:41] <paradizelost> clif: it's already installed.
[04:41] <krazykit> but anyway, the previous question still stands.  when using packages for debian, should i use sarge etch or sid?
[04:41] <paradizelost> applications->internet->Gaim Instant Messenger
[04:41] <krazykit> because as far as i can tell, avidemux isn't in uni/multiverse
[04:42] <crimsun> krazykit: you can use any /source/ package from Debian if you recompile it on your Ubuntu system. Don't attempt to just pull binary debs from Debian repos.
[04:42] <crimsun> !info avidemux dapper
[04:42] <ubotu> avidemux: (a small editing software for avi (especially DivX)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 2607 kB, Installed size: 6756 kB
[04:42] <clif> ok thanks, I'll give it a try... Thanks ppl for being so nice and helping me!
[04:42] <krazykit> i'm not running dapper though :-P
[04:42] <paradizelost> krazykit: you could go ahead and upgrade...
[04:42] <crimsun> krazykit: then either request a backport to breezy, or dist-upgrade to dapper
[04:42] <SiLvALyNiN> is there anyway for me to download the file PROPERLY, because my MD5 seems to be different
[04:42] <paradizelost> krazykit: it'll be final in about 2 weeks anyways...
[04:43] <krazykit> i tried the flights a few weeks ago.  totally trashed my system
[04:44] <paradizelost> krazykit: flight 7 is much better.  were you using beta 1?
[04:44] <krazykit> yeah
[04:44] <paradizelost> that's ur problem then
[04:44] <paradizelost> you can upgrade your current install
[04:44] <paradizelost> !dapper
[04:44] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:44] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[04:44] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[04:44] <krazykit> ... i know how to upgrade.
[04:45] <paradizelost> i'm running it on 4 systems right now, and haven't had any problems
[04:45] <paradizelost> some are fresh installs, some are upgrades
[04:45] <SiLvALyNiN> would i be better off installing dapper?
[04:45] <krazykit> i'd just prefer to back this install before messing with it.  and i don't feel like digging out my external hard drive and a boot CD
[04:46] <paradizelost> SiLvALyNiN: it is technically still in beta, for about 2-3 weeks yet, but it has lots of improvements
[04:46] <paradizelost> and i haven't had any stability issues.
[04:46] <paradizelost> just a LOT of updates to do if you install off of the install cd
[04:47] <hurax> but there are some people who went to ubuntu for not having to choose between perpetual beta and very old stable releases
[04:48] <Douglas> Hello, is there a way to create a right click keyboard shortcut with Ubuntu?  I am on a mac so I have a one button mouse.
[04:50] <clif> Oh heres another question is there any way to get ubuntu to get a screen resulation highter then 800 X 600 It gives me only 640 X 480 or 800 X 600? I normally run 1024 X 768 and I like that better?
[04:51] <Douglas> Hello, is there a way to create a right click keyboard shortcut with Ubuntu?  I am on a mac so I have a one button mouse.
[04:51] <guest_aaron> Do you know what the graphics card in it is, Clif?
[04:51] <guest_aaron> Is it a centrino?
[04:51] <echobinary> greetings all
[04:51] <Douglas> I am trying to save an image off the internet and I cant right click to save it
[04:52] <clif> arron: I'm not sure my machine is a compaq presario 1200 if that helps
[04:52] <echobinary> does anyone have an idea when the official nvidia-glx will be upgraded to 1.0.8178
[04:52] <echobinary> is that somethign coming with dapper?
[04:52] <crimsun> !info nvidia-glx dapper
[04:52] <l_> is there anyway to check and see if my xserver is using all available memory
[04:52] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.8756+2.6.15.9-4 (dapper), Packaged size: 3956 kB, Installed size: 12224 kB
[04:52] <hurax> clif: even the vesa driver is able to do 1024x768
[04:52] <echobinary> is that out now?
[04:52] <slackern> l_, check the log /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:53] <crimsun> echobinary: the version that the bot quoted is in dapper right now
[04:53] <echobinary> awesome
[04:53] <echobinary> then perhaps my 7300GS wioll work
[04:53] <hyphenated> Douglas: got a number pad? :-)
[04:53] <mugzie> has anyone here ever used thunar?
[04:53] <Douglas> hyphenated: nah... im on my apple laptop
[04:54] <echobinary> any practical "gotchas" to installing dapper at this point?
[04:54] <clif> Hurax: hummm when I try to change the res it just gives the the too choices... oh well I might just have to live with it for now..... I probably should try to get my PS2 mouse working first it won't use it it keeps wanting to use the touch pad that I don't like to use
[04:54] <gleesond> is there a peice of software that I can use to view wmv
[04:54] <crimsun> gleesond: maybe mplayer
[04:54] <fiveiron> gleesond: totem, vlc, etc
[04:54] <echobinary> gleesond: look into easyubuntu
[04:55] <hurax> clif: you probably should reconfigure the x server
[04:55] <gleesond> vlc does not
[04:55] <echobinary> and or enable more repositories and search for w32codecs :)
[04:55] <UKMatt> does anyone know any .iso burners for ubuntu?
[04:55] <hurax> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:55] <gleesond> totem does not seem to either
[04:55] <guest_aaron> Clif: what do you get from  lshal | grep Graphic
[04:55] <tritium> UKMatt: nautilus does a fine job
[04:55] <hyphenated> Douglas: hehe ok. there's a way to do it using the keyboard-based "mouse" that X has. there might be a shortcut key that switches the mouse between modes
[04:55] <guest_aaron> (from a terminal)
[04:56] <chicken_Fire> UKMatt: k3b
[04:56] <hyphenated> Douglas: a quick google search says "F11" and "F12" change them .. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87757.html
[04:56] <Douglas> on my Mac OSX its just CTRL byt I can't find the oine for the linux
[04:56] <UKMatt> tritium, any idea why ubuntu is recognizing the .iso as a compressed file?
[04:56] <Douglas> hyphenated: ok cool thanks... i will check that out
[04:57] <tritium> UKMatt: are you using gnome?  Can you right-click and select burn-to-disc?
[04:57] <Douglas> hyphenated: yup F12 works... thanks a lot for the help
[04:57] <hyphenated> Douglas: that page explains briefly how to change it to a different key
[04:57] <UKMatt> tritium, yeah i am in gnome.. haha i didnt see that option ty
[04:57] <hyphenated> so you could probably make it more like OSX
[04:57] <tritium> UKMatt: :)
[04:57] <UKMatt> tritium, does that make it an image or a data cd though
[04:58] <Douglas> hyphenated: thanks I will read on it
[04:58] <tritium> UKMatt: it'll burn it properly to a bootable CD.  It won't be a data CD.
[04:58] <UKMatt> tritium, good that's what I'm shooting for
[04:58] <guest_aaron> I have a quick question for you all: Does the term "Double-tap" mean that I should be able to tap the touchpad with two fingers at the same time and have it double click?
[04:58] <tritium> UKMatt: :)
[04:59] <UKMatt> tritium, tyvm
[04:59] <clif> Any one have any suggestions on how to get the PS2 mouse to install insted of the touch pad mouse on the compaq presario 1200 laptop
[04:59] <_h4x> I installed ndiswrapper but, i don't know how to configure //pl0x help
[05:00] <hurax> clif_: that's all in the xorg.conf
[05:01] <hurax> don't know about an easy configuration program though
[05:01] <_h4x> I installed ndiswrapper but, i don't know how to configure //pl0x help
[05:01] <clif_> hurax: ok well I'll go look and see what I can find anything I should look for or put in there to make it work
[05:02] <_h4x> pl0x help me...
[05:02] <_h4x> whenever i attempt to use WEP my computer gets all retarted
[05:03] <_h4x> it makes me type everything 80 times and it won't start up correctly... i have to reinstall ubuntu
[05:03] <_h4x> :(
[05:03] <_h4x> what should i do?
[05:04] <tritium> _h4x: how do you configure WEP?
[05:04] <_h4x> not really sure anymore
[05:04] <hurax> there are sections for "InputDevice"
[05:04] <cracko> my hard drive recently mounted as read only and alot of things have input out put errors and i am trying to backup as much as i can to dvds
[05:04] <_h4x> something like "sudo wep yourkey"
[05:04] <irflashrex> um hello how do you get gcc for ubuntu
[05:05] <tritium> _h4x: man wireless
[05:05] <cracko> is there away i can list all the files with the input output errors?
[05:05] <tritium> irflashrex: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:05] <_h4x> yeah... it is hard to install
[05:05] <tritium> _h4x: no, it's trivial
[05:05] <_h4x> tritium: orly!?
[05:05] <_h4x> tritium: lol
[05:05] <tritium> _h4x: read that manpage
[05:06] <_h4x> tritium: ?
[05:06] <tritium> _h4x: man wireless
[05:06] <fiendskull9> hey, does someone wanna test my radio station?
[05:06] <_h4x> sure, how?
[05:06] <_h4x> what ip?
[05:06] <fiendskull9> open xmms, or amarok, or rythymbox (or any media player for that matter)
[05:06] <tritium> _h4x: type that in a terminal
[05:06] <fiendskull9> and do open location - http://12.201.47.48:8000/listen.pls
[05:07] <cdubya> _h4x, why not just use the networking config....? It's fairly straightforward....just click on the wireless connection, then properties, then put  in your ESSID and WEP Key, activate, then click OK and you should be good to go.
[05:07] <l_> can someone help me? i have installed java according to the directions on the website but according to java.com i do not have java installed
[05:07] <tritium> _h4x: you're running breezy, or dapper
[05:07] <clif_> anyone know where I can find the xorg.conf file
[05:07] <tritium> clif_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:08] <fiendskull9> whoever just connected, you had a bit of a hiccup :P
[05:08] <clif_> ok thanks tririum
[05:08] <_h4x> tritumL breasy
[05:08] <_h4x> cdubya: how do i install
[05:08] <cdubya> fiendskull9, works fine here in rhythmbox
[05:08] <wy> Got my file permissions confused by vfat partition. Any ideas about fixing them? I want a script that can return files to their normal permissions
[05:09] <fiendskull9> cdubya, ight, have any requests? lol
[05:09] <tritium> _h4x: it's already installed
[05:09] <cdubya> _h4x, System > Administration > Networking
[05:09] <irflashrex> i got some errors tritium
[05:09] <l_> can someone tell me what it means if a symbolic link is red on black in color?
[05:09] <_h4x> cdubya: yeah... it don't reconginze wifi cards
[05:09] <cdubya> fiendskull9, heh, naw, just wanted to let you know. :-)
[05:09] <_h4x> tritium: i need something that works with wifi
[05:10] <_jason> l_: that means whatever it is pointing to isn't there
[05:10] <WORD> hi all, just completed ubuntu installation. I go to boot up and everything goes fine, grub loads and all that but after about 10 seconds a "maximum tempurature exceeded, shutting down" warning comes up
[05:10] <_h4x> hey, how do i run a program.... something like: "gksudo program"?
[05:10] <cracko> how can i fix these input output erros on my hard drive?
[05:10] <WORD> ive checked in cmos and i have temp. warnings disabled
[05:10] <tritium> _h4x: it does work with WEP
[05:10] <haboy> nid help
[05:10] <clif_> I found the mouse section in the xorg.conf file what would I put in it to make it use the ps2 external mouse?
[05:10] <JonBoon> WORD, are your fans working?
[05:11] <haboy> anyone
[05:11] <_h4x> yeah... but it freezez my comp when i try to use it
[05:11] <WORD> yes
[05:11] <mageknight> nid help please
[05:11] <WORD> CPU fan is working, cmos says cpu is at normal operating temp
[05:11] <WORD> CPU heatsink isnt even warm to the touch
[05:11] <mageknight> can anyone help me
[05:11] <RobNyc> Anyone here using x1600 ?
[05:11] <tritium> _h4x: explain in more detail.  It works for the vast majority of users
[05:11] <_jason> mageknight: just ask your question
[05:11] <JonBoon> hmm, then im not sure, i've never put ubuntu on a machine that uses that temperature stuff
[05:12] <WORD> its weird
[05:12] <cdubya> _h4x, is your wireless interface listed in /etc/network/interfaces?
[05:12] <_h4x> tritium: it gets all laggy, and it makes me make tons of strokes when i only type one
[05:12] <_h4x> tritum: then it just won't start up: it freezes on the part where it says "gettting networking interfaces"
[05:12] <mageknight> -jason: everytime i play my totem movie player. the sound is always delayed
[05:12] <WORD> and it shows up as like "(59359835.395735) Maximum tempurature exceeded, shutting down" so I think its a ubuntu thing
[05:12] <irflashrex> tritium: id umped errors on the screen
[05:12] <_h4x> tritum: then i reinstall
[05:12] <mageknight> -jason: whats wrong with it???
[05:12] <l_> _jason: the correct sytntax for creating a symbolic link is ln-s file $path, correct?
[05:12] <_h4x> cdubya: hold on... lemme check
[05:12] <tritium> irflashrex: what?
[05:13] <irflashrex> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:13] <irflashrex> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:13] <_h4x> cdubya: how do i use that?
[05:13] <mageknight> -jason: everytime i play my totem movie player. the sound is always delayed
[05:13] <_jason> l_: yes with a space after the ln and where file is the thing $path is pointing to
[05:13] <cdubya> _h4x, pico /etc/network/interfaces
[05:13] <shigutso> i cant make Shockwave work in Firefox 1.0.8, the one that comes with Ubuntu
[05:13] <mustard5> irflashrex, do you have synaptic open?
[05:13] <shigutso> i've followed this tutorial:
[05:13] <shigutso> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-55dd46852b91060cde557660462b56e31cac305f
[05:13] <shigutso> but without sucess... what should i do?
[05:13] <mageknight> everytime i play my totem movie player. the sound is always delayed
[05:13] <_jason> mageknight: you don't have to repeat
[05:14] <_h4x> cdubya: i don't have a "interfaces" folder
[05:14] <tritium> irflashrex: you must have synaptic open
[05:14] <mageknight> -jason: sorry
[05:14] <irflashrex> um yes if it is the add applications dialog
[05:14] <cdubya> _h4x, open terminal and type that command
[05:14] <tritium> _h4x: it's a file, not a folder
[05:14] <_h4x> ok
[05:14] <cdubya> _h4x, Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[05:14] <_jason> mageknight: did you try different file types, different players?
[05:14] <fiendskull9> if anyone else is interested in my radio station, just join #clayradio
[05:15] <_h4x> cdubya: wow! lots of stuff
[05:15] <irflashrex> i gota reboot add applications just crashed
[05:15] <mustard5> irflashrex, yeah that related to synaptic
[05:15] <BrunnoPE> what's the name of that "add and remove applications" program ? i need to apt-get it for xubuntu...
[05:15] <mageknight> -jason: the only player i have is the totem movie player
[05:15] <cdubya> _h4x, do you see any reference to ath0 or wlan or anything of that nature?
[05:15] <mageknight> -jason: both avi and avseq are delayed
[05:15] <_h4x> cdubya: eth0  is it
[05:15] <shigutso> i can't make Shockwave works with Firefox. I've already followed the wiki.ubuntu's guide, but it didn't work...
[05:16] <tritium> _h4x: please paste your /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin
[05:16] <cdubya> _h4x, k. so does it have your essid and key there with it?
[05:16] <_h4x> kk
[05:16] <mageknight> _jason: and another problem is, everytime i nid to play a vcd i hav to insert it b4 it could play
[05:16] <Douglas> do wireless cards not work with live cds?
[05:16] <mag_> someone can help me with compiz on nvidia ?
[05:16] <cdubya> yeah, what tritium said. :-)
[05:16] <mustard5> BrunnoPE, not sure what its called...I just tried looking in my menu editor for a name, but no luck finding it
[05:17] <mageknight> _jason: but when i try to open it in the menu, i can't play. in only plays automatically when its inserted
[05:17] <RobNyc> why is my video showing up wrong
[05:17] <RobNyc> video[1002:71c2 @ Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface] 
[05:17] <_h4x> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13820
[05:17] <_h4x> cdubya: ^
[05:18] <_jason> mageknight: I'm tempted to blame esd for your sound delay, don't know about your second problem.  Try using mplayer and see if it happens when you set the output to alsa
[05:18] <cdubya> _h4x, doesn't look like you've got it setup. :-)
[05:18] <BrunnoPE> mustard5 thanks anyway... i've got the update-manager but this other thing doesn't seem to have a name... :)
[05:18] <_h4x> cdubya: lol
[05:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell mageknight about mplayer
[05:18] <cdubya> heh
[05:18] <shigutso> i can't make Shockwave works with Firefox. I've already followed the wiki.ubuntu's guide, but it didn't work...
[05:18] <_h4x> cdubya: i had it set up... but then i had to reinstall ubuntu
[05:18] <cdubya> _h4x, ouch.
[05:18] <_h4x> cdubya: i need someone to tell me how to do it again
[05:19] <mageknight> _jason: i tried the mplayer but theres an error displayed
[05:19] <cdubya> _h4x, the install didn't pick it up?
[05:19] <_h4x> cdubya, lol
[05:19] <_jason> mageknight: what error?
[05:19] <_h4x> cdubya: i think so... but, i can't config
[05:19] <l_> sudo sudo _jason what does it mean when my symbolic link appears red on black?
[05:20] <_h4x> cdubya: can you tell me what to do
[05:20] <_jason> l_: don't sudo me :P  It means that the link is dangling, it is pointing to a file that does not exist
[05:20] <l_> _jason: i used ln -s source destination dir and it came up red on black
[05:20] <_jason> l_: paste the exact command you used
[05:20] <l_> alright
[05:20] <_h4x> cdubya: i am pretty sure that i was connected to the network... but, when i tryed to put in WEP, i had the symtoms above
[05:20] <cdubya> _h4x, well, I can try my best.....and then let anyone else chime in if I'm totally wacking your system....:-P
[05:21] <_h4x> cdubya: lol
[05:21] <_h4x> cdubya: ok
[05:21] <Douglas> Does anyone know how I could get my Mac wireless card to work?  I am running the live version of Ubuntu
[05:21] <shigutso> how can I make Shockwave works with Firefox? I've already followed the wiki.ubuntu's guide, but it didn't work...
[05:21] <cdubya> _h4x, might try editing the interfaces file to add an interface.....
[05:21] <_h4x> cdubya: ok
[05:21] <l_> _jason: http://pastebin.com/712868
[05:21] <_jason> shigutso: macromedia does not make a shockwave plugin for linux
[05:21] <_jason> !shockwave
[05:21] <ubotu> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!
[05:21] <cdubya> _h4x, I can give you what I have in mine so that you've kinda got a guideline.....
[05:22] <_h4x> cdubya: i think that there was a tutorial on the fourms
[05:22] <_h4x> cdubya: i will check it out
[05:22] <_h4x> cdubya: i had it work.. up untill wep... i can IRC you when i come to that
[05:22] <shigutso> _jason, yes, I know that, but even using Wine, I can't make Shockwave works... :/
[05:22] <_h4x> cdubya: if you want
[05:22] <tritium> _h4x: there are no wireless settings in your interfaces files
[05:22] <Android_D> what is the format for changing file permissions in ubuntu?
[05:22] <_jason> shigutso: #winehq might be able to help better with wine
[05:23] <_h4x> cdubya: yeah... i think that i need to configure ndisgtk or ndiswrapper
[05:23] <shigutso> _jason, ok... thank you :)
[05:23] <_jason> l_: it's easier if you specify the full path for the source
[05:23] <tritium> _h4x: use the gnome configuration tool, or read the manpage via "man wireless" to figure out how to edit yoru interfaces file yourself
[05:23] <cdubya> _h4x, k, I can try to help with what I can....just lemme know.
[05:23] <_h4x> cdubya: manpage?
[05:23] <_h4x> cdubya: what is "man wireless?"
[05:24] <_h4x> ubotu, tell _h4x about manpage
[05:24] <tritium> _h4x: a manual page.  type that command in the terminal
[05:24] <Android_D> can anybody help me out with that simple problem?
[05:24] <cdubya> _h4x, when you issue the man command, you're requesting the manual page for that entry following the command
[05:24] <_h4x> ok
[05:24] <_jason> Android_D: right click > properties
[05:24] <Trashcan> must not h4x very well
[05:24] <l_> _jason: thank you, that worked.
[05:24] <Trashcan> :o
 I the chechboxes in properties is diabled
[05:25] <Android_D> I am looking to do it in the terminal
[05:25] <ahmeni> whee, had my debian vserver broken into today.. damn script kiddies
[05:25] <_jason> Android_D: you can only modify permissiosn for files you own
[05:25] <cdubya> _h4x, what kinda card is it?
[05:25] <Android_D> yeah, I want to own the file
[05:25] <tritium> ahmeni: VNC?
[05:25] <Android_D> so I am logged as the su in the terminal and am looking for the command line to alter permissions
[05:25] <_jason> Android_D: chmod is the command in the terminal to change permissions, chown is to change ownership.  You really should not change ownership of anything outside of your $HOME though
[05:26] <Android_D> heh
[05:26] <Android_D> I had a space
[05:26] <Android_D> "ch mod" instead of chhmod
[05:26] <Android_D> thanks
[05:26] <Android_D> ;)
[05:26] <ahmeni> tritium: Nope.  Haven't found the cause yet though, my guess is an out of date web package on our web server
[05:27] <_h4x> cdubya: WG311 by netgear
[05:27] <ubuntu> hey can i join?
[05:27] <_h4x> cdubya: sorry, i was looking at the man
[05:27] <cdubya> _h4x, k.
[05:27] <ubuntu> can i?
[05:28] <_jason> ubuntu: join what?
[05:28] <tritium> _h4x: you need "wireless-mode managed", and "wireless-essid YOUR_ESSID", etc.
[05:28] <ubuntu> i have some questions to ask...
[05:29] <_h4x> cdubya: sorry, can you tell me how to install .deb S?
[05:30] <cdubya> _h4x, sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[05:30] <_h4x> thanks
[05:30] <_jason> ubuntu: you can just ask them to the channel and if someone knows they will try to help
[05:31] <tritium> _h4x: better to install from ubuntu repositories via apt-get.  What are you installing?
[05:31] <_h4x> tritium: ok
[05:31] <mageknight> error font on my mplayer
[05:31] <_h4x> tritium: i already did now
[05:31] <kwy> Hola
[05:31] <tritium> !es
[05:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:31] <ubuntu> jason my problem is i dont know how to operate an ubuntu os that much
[05:31] <_h4x> tritium: can you tell me how to run a program that is not in the applications thingy?
[05:31] <tritium> _h4x: what was it?
[05:32] <_h4x> tritium: ndisgtk
[05:32] <JonBoon> Does anyone know which version of ubuntu comes with the book Begining Ubuntu Linux, from novice to proffesional?
[05:32] <tritium> _h4x: from the command line
[05:32] <cdubya> _h4x, gksudo ndisgtk
[05:32] <_h4x> tritium, it was easier to install then nidwrapper.
[05:32] <_h4x> ty
[05:32] <kwy> alguien me podria decir como se llama la libreria de los win codecs se que es w32........ pero no recuerdo que mas
[05:32] <tritium> !es
[05:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:32] <tritium> kwy: ^^
[05:32] <ubuntu> :) im in the office and my boss just let me surf this
[05:33] <mageknight> New face failed. font path is wrong. in my mplayer
[05:33] <_jason> mageknight: install mplayer-fonts package
[05:33] <mageknight> how???
[05:33] <mageknight> what's the command _jason
[05:33] <_jason> mageknight: do you know about synaptic, apt-get, and aptitude?
[05:33] <_jason> or any one of those really?
[05:33] <mageknight> _jason: No. i'm a newbie in linux
[05:33] <jacob_> sorry, i pressed alt-f4 instead of alt-f2 lol
[05:34] <_jason> mageknight: how did you install mplayer?
[05:34] <mageknight> _ jason: i just type sudo apt-get command for the mplayer
[05:35] <_jason> mageknight: right, so to install mplayer-fonts, you would do: sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts        but there is a nice gui program you can use too and you can access it by going to system > administration > synaptic
[05:35] <jacob_> hold on.. need to restart
[05:35] <ppjjj> i seriously just had a restaurant manager call my 24/7 emergency support line and ask me to "dial in and unfreeze his mouse"
[05:35] <ppjjj> at midnight
[05:35] <mageknight> you mean the package manager right??
[05:35] <_jason> mageknight: yes
[05:35] <mageknight> _jason: how do i use this
[05:36] <_jason> ubuntu: tell mageknight about synaptic
[05:36] <tyler> anyone here uses giFT p2p can u pls help me?
[05:36] <mageknight> _jason: theres an error on the sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[05:37] <_jason> mageknight: what is the error? (if it is long, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to post it and give us a link)
[05:37] <mageknight> _jason: unable to lock administratoion directory
[05:37] <_jason> mageknight: did you use sudo?
[05:37] <mageknight> yes
[05:37] <mageknight> i'll paste it to be extact
[05:37] <_jason> mageknight: do you have synaptic open at the same time?
[05:37] <_jason> mageknight: it's ok, I know the error
[05:38] <mageknight> heres the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13821
[05:38] <mageknight> yes
[05:38] <_jason> mageknight: you have to close synaptic, because it uses the same database as apt-get
[05:38] <ahmeni> Is there anything I can do to help stem the tide of people trying to brute force passwords through ssh?
[05:38] <mageknight> ok
[05:39] <tokennrg> ext3 run better than jfs?
[05:39] <_jason> ahmeni: use ssh keys instead
[05:39] <ahmeni> _jason: I encourage my users to use ssh keys, but it's not viable for all of them
[05:40] <dli> ahmeni, disable passwd login, and use public key
[05:40] <dli> ahmeni, have a look at fail2ban
[05:40] <tokennrg> or run ssh on a nonstandard port (security by obcsurity :P   )
[05:41] <l_> !restrictedformats
[05:41] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:41] <l_> !freeformats
[05:41] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[05:41] <mageknight> _jason: i cant change the aspect ratio of my mplayer??
[05:41] <mageknight> _jason: i want to fill up the whole screen
[05:41] <_jason> mageknight: use xv as the video output
[05:41] <ahmeni> dli: nice, does it scan apache logs as well?
[05:41] <mageknight> _jason: on the preferences??
[05:41] <_jason> mageknight: yep
[05:42] <gimpyhtml> this is a question for anybody that runs rythmbox or listen music players, but is there anyway to open multiple music folders at once in the "import folder"
[05:43] <riddlebox> man its good to use ubuntu again, tried fedora out, I couldnt get my wireless to work at all, in ubuntu two minutes and it was up
[05:43] <newpers> i'm installing the updates on drapper (flight 7).  it's been installing acpi-support for about 20 minutes now.  i think it's stuck.  what should i do?
[05:44] <Whyvas> kill it
[05:44] <Flannel> newpers: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[05:44] <Whyvas> and do dpkg --configure -a
[05:44] <newpers> Flannel: it's dead quiet
[05:44] <Flannel> newpers: oh, fair enough.
[05:45] <newpers> :)
[05:45] <newpers> Whyvas: what's that last command do?
[05:45] <Whyvas> fixes stuff
[05:46] <newpers> Whyvas: sorry, but what do i kill?  i'm not use to this packaging system
[05:46] <tritium> newpers: configures all packages that are unpacked but not yet configured
[05:46] <tritium> (man dpkg) ;)
[05:46] <l_> can someone tell me how to change teh permissions of a folder to make it writeable by the current user?
[05:46] <mustard5> l_ which folder?
[05:46] <_jason> l_: what directory exactly?
[05:47] <Whyvas> are you using synaptic?
[05:47] <newpers> Whyvas: all I did was click that little icon in the top that downloads and installs the updates
[05:47] <Whyvas> ah
[05:48] <Whyvas> not sure what that one is called
[05:48] <newpers> There's a window open that says "Applying Changes"  and has a progress bar, but i can't close it
[05:48] <Whyvas> ok
[05:48] <newpers> so i ps awwfux, but i don't see anything
[05:48] <newpers> that i would know to kill
[05:48] <Whyvas> right click on your panel up top
[05:48] <_jason> update-manager probably
[05:48] <Whyvas> add item
[05:48] <mustard5> newpers, try clicking rapidly on the main window for the application..see if it force a quit
[05:48] <Whyvas> force quit
[05:49] <Whyvas> under desktop and windows
[05:49] <harisund> newpers: Hit Alt and F2 together. Then type in xkill. Your cursor will change. Click on the window that seems to be 'hung' and it will die
[05:49] <Whyvas> then click on that, then on the window
[05:49] <_jason> oh yes, force quit may do it more nicely
[05:49] <njdavid> Anyone know how to disable hotplug?
[05:49] <njdavid> Or stop it from hanging?
[05:49] <njdavid> It's because of my Nvidia card.
[05:49] <njdavid> And frankly, I don't hink hotplug is needed.
[05:49] <ppjjj> oh my god never taking another on call job
[05:50] <newpers> i think i got it with sudo kill -9 dpkg.id (which just resumed everything)
[05:50] <_jason> killing dpkg processes isn't really good though :/
[05:50] <harisund> njdavid: if you want to stop hotplug, I would suggest the command 'sudo invoke-rc.d hotplug stop' And to ensure it doesn't load on bootup execute 'sudo update-rc.d -f hotplug remov
[05:51] <tritium> bravo, harisund
[05:51] <njdavid> Can I copy and paste that verbatim?
[05:51] <njdavid> Erm
[05:51] <harisund> Yes. Whatever is between the quotes is a command you will need to execute on the terminal.
[05:51] <wooow> anyone alive?
[05:51] <harisund> And the last command should be 'sudo update-rc.d -f hotplug remove'
[05:51] <njdavid> harisund, It abrupty end "'sudo update-rc.d -f hotplug remov"
[05:51] <harisund> woow I am :)
[05:52] <harisund> njdavid typo :)
[05:52] <wooow> harisund: I have installed ubuntu 5.10 5x now, and it still hasn't asked me for a root passwd.. and i cannot root.. what is the matter with it
[05:52] <Flannel> !tell wooow about root
[05:53] <harisund> woow There are no 'root' accounts on Ubuntu. The first user that you have created has root permissions and can execute commands as root by prepending the command with 'sudo'
[05:53] <harisund> woow you should have got a message pointing you towards a webpage where you can read how administrator accounts are handled in Ubuntu
[05:54] <wooow> Yes..
[05:54] <wooow> THank you
[05:54] <tritium> wooow: nothing is the matter with it
[05:54] <wooow> uhh
[05:54] <wooow> wth
[05:55] <harisund> wooow I am guessing you must have had experience with other Linuces out there, eh?
[05:55] <wooow> now it's denying remote access...
[05:55] <harisund> What happened?
[05:55] <harisund> remote access?
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> actually there is a root account. :P its just that direct logging in to it is disabled by default.
[05:55] <NoUse> wooow have you installed the ssh server?
[05:55] <wooow> harisund: I'm more of a FC user..
[05:55] <harisund> hmmmm.. Ok :)
[05:55] <harisund> What can I say? Welcome to Ubuntu, perhaps?
[05:56] <wooow> lol
[05:56] <wooow> XD
[05:56] <Flannel> wooow: ubuntu ships with no ports open, nothing listening, etc.
[05:56] <tritium> wooow: what kind of remote access would you like to enable?
[05:57] <ferronica> any one here using utorrent in ubuntu???
[05:57] <wooow> tritium: I want like SSH access..
[05:57] <Flannel> wooow: install ssh-server ;)
[05:57] <ferronica> i waqnna use Utorrent in ubuntu can I guys???
[05:57] <harisund> wooow You would have to first install the SSH Server. The command you would use is 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server'
[05:57] <wooow> uhh
[05:57] <wooow> okay
[05:57] <wooow> brb
[05:57] <tritium> !enter
[05:57] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:58] <ferronica> ubotu: utorrent
[05:58] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica
[05:58] <NoUse> !tell ferronica about ubotu
[05:59] <ferronica> NoUse: tell me how to use Utorrent in ubuntu
[05:59] <NoUse> ferronica I've never used it
[05:59] <ferronica> lol
[05:59] <NoUse> ferronica utorrent is windows only
[05:59] <ferronica> NoUse: in windows toooo
[06:00] <ferronica> any one here using utorrent in ubuntu???
[06:00] <Gaya> is there a C compiler in ubuntu?
[06:00] <harisund> Gaya There is, but it is not installed by default
[06:00] <NoUse> Gaya install the build-essential package
[06:01] <NoUse> ferronica utorrent is a windows program
[06:01] <Gaya> where can i find that package?
[06:01] <NoUse> Gaya synaptic
[06:01] <PrimoTurbo> Does anyone know any FREE Linux Magaznines besides tuxmagazine?
[06:01] <ferronica> NoUse: so there is no way to use it in ubuntu 5.10
[06:01] <harisund> NoUse, I have a question . When someone asks about installing gcc or g++ would it be better to ask them to install just the compiler or would you suggest installing the entire build-esential meta package?
[06:01] <tritium> Gaya: you can also use apt-cache search <search term>
[06:01] <NoUse> ferronica you might be able to use it wine, but I don't know
[06:02] <tritium> harisund: the meta package is preferred
[06:02] <harisund> ok ..
[06:02] <i3dmaster> how to config FF keyboard shortcuts?
[06:02] <ferronica> from where can i get wine
[06:02] <tritium> !info wine
[06:02] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[06:02] <ferronica> NoUse: how to install it????
[06:02] <harisund> ferronice Are you really keen on Utorrent only?
[06:02] <NoUse> ferronica its in syanptic
[06:03] <ferronica> ok
[06:03] <ferronica> NoUse: in search what i type???
[06:03] <ericmoritz\0> I'd like to change the password to my keychain, how would I do that?
[06:03] <NoUse> ferronica take a guess
[06:04] <ferronica> NoUse: Ok i typed, so many stufs showing, which one to install???
[06:04] <NoUse> ferronica you typed wine?
[06:04] <ferronica> NoUse: yes
[06:04] <NoUse> ferronica install the package named 'wine'
[06:04] <ferronica> NoUse: only WINE
[06:05] <drcode> any one know dia for drwing?
[06:05] <ferronica> NoUse: bcoz there is ---libwine,wine-doc
[06:05] <tritium> drcode: I still prefer xfig
[06:05] <tritium> ferronica: do you need the libraries and documentation also?:
[06:05] <NoUse> ferronica I understand that, install the wine pckage
[06:06] <pyrobob> quick question
[06:06] <harisund> Yes pyrobob?
[06:06] <njdavid> HEhe
[06:06] <njdavid> That didn't work.
[06:06] <ferronica> NoUse: bcoz there is ---right now i just wanna to install for utorrrent
[06:06] <pyrobob> whenever i try to compile anything with a configure file, I get an error
[06:06] <njdavid> Disabled my USB mouse and keyboard.
[06:06] <pyrobob> saying the C compiler cannot create executables
[06:06] <hyphenated> !b-e
[06:06] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[06:06] <harisund> njdavid I was afraid of that. hotplug does more things too, and by stopping it you are potentially killing a lot of stuff.
[06:06] <njdavid> harisund, Yeah, It worked on my laptop though :)
[06:06] <harisund> njdavid, hang on. I will give you the command to get back hotplug as it was before.
[06:06] <Gaya> okay i used apt-cache search essential package, and i can see a build-essential, so how do i install it?
[06:06] <harisund> Are you on dapper?
[06:07] <njdavid> harisund, oh noi
[06:07] <ferronica> NoUse: Ok i selected wine
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[06:07] <ubotu> apt-get is, like, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[06:07] <harisund> ok no problem njdavid ..
[06:07] <tritium> Gaya: with apt-get or synaptic
[06:07] <njdavid> harisund, I didn't get a chance to completely type the rest lol
[06:07] <njdavid> harisund, Stopped after the first one
[06:07] <Whyvas> screw wine
[06:07] <Whyvas> use vmware
[06:07] <ferronica> NoUse: downloding something, after downloading what next step????
[06:07] <Whyvas> much better.
[06:07] <njdavid> harisund, Now, I just need to find a way to stop hotplug from trying to start my nvidia card.
[06:07] <pyrobob> ... how would I fix my little problem? (C compiler cannot create executables when running configure files)
[06:08] <harisund> njdavid, I believe you can add the nvidia module to a list of blacklisted modules or something like that
[06:08] <njdavid> harisund, Where is the list located?
[06:08] <hyphenated> pyrobob: uboto told you about 2 lines after you asked
[06:08] <NoUse> ferronica get the utorrent installer, the run 'wine file.exe'
[06:08] <pyrobob> oh sorry didn't see that
[06:08] <ferronica> NoUse: what what, i didnt get YOU????
[06:09] <harisund> njdavid That is something that I do not know, since I have never had the chance myself. Let's hope somebody else can help you out ..
[06:09] <i3dmaster> anyone knows how to config FF shortcuts?
[06:09] <NoUse> ferronica download the utorrent installer file, and from the command line run 'wine filename.exe' where filename.exe is the filename of the utorrent installer
[06:09] <slackern> njdavid, dapper 6.06 has a file called /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist not sure if it's the same in breezy
[06:09] <njdavid> harisund, I know it's in etc something lol.
[06:09] <njdavid> slackern, Hmm looks familiar.
[06:09] <hyphenated> ferronica: have you considered any of the other bittorrent clients that already work on linux?
[06:09] <tritium> njdavid: breezy's blacklilst was in /etc/hotplug
[06:10] <njdavid> tritium, Know the filename?
[06:10] <njdavid> heh
[06:10] <njdavid> nevermind
[06:10] <tritium> njdavid: ;)
[06:10] <njdavid> /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[06:10] <slackern> find /etc/ -name blacklist
[06:10] <harisund> njdavid, there you go :)
[06:11] <ferronica> NoUse: Ok wine installed, what i do???
[06:12] <NoUse> ferronica I already told you
[06:12] <NoUse> ferronica twice
[06:12] <ferronica> NoUse: now shud i download utorrent? from terminal
[06:12] <NoUse> ferronica yes
[06:12] <harisund> It seems sort of unusuallly quiet down here today ..
[06:12] <ferronica> what command to give
[06:12] <Whyvas> ferronica, use bit tornado
[06:12] <njdavid> harisund, I know it has to be simple, but how do I view my XP partition, and copy files?
[06:13] <Whyvas> it's a linux bit torrent client
[06:13] <tritium> ferronica: s/shud/should
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use rtorrent :P
[06:13] <NoUse> ferronica yeah thats a good question,why do you need utorrent?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> using utorrent with wine.. is sort of 'scary' :P
[06:13] <harisund> njdavid.. from what I recollect UBuntu should have automatically mounted your NTFS/FAT partitions for you. Go inside /media and look at the folders there. Just try and navigate through them.
[06:13] <slackern> Dr_Willis, shhh, don't get them going on software running in terminals, keep that for later :)
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  heh - and save 'screen' for even later!
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:14] <njdavid> harisund, Nope
[06:14] <ferronica> NoUse: bcoz to download some torrents requires Utorrent...
[06:14] <njdavid> harisund, cdrom0 and usbdick
[06:14] <harisund> njdavid ok could you post me the file listing of your /etc/fstab somewher online?
[06:14] <njdavid> erm
[06:14] <njdavid> disk
[06:14] <njdavid> lol
[06:14] <hyphenated> haha
[06:14] <harisund> njdavid lool that. .
[06:14] <njdavid> rofl
[06:14] <harisund> rofl
[06:14] <slackern> ^^
[06:14] <NoUse> ferronica thats not true
[06:14] <NoUse> ferronica who told you that?
[06:15] <njdavid> harisund, the xp partition isn't listed.
[06:15] <slackern> I use bittornado myself after trying a ton of torrentclients too
[06:15] <ferronica> NoUse: it is
[06:15] <harisund> njdavid do you know how your hard disk(s) are organized?
[06:15] <wooow> What is the command to update?
[06:15] <slackern> rufus was nice, but well it's memory usage went to 1.5GB then i dumped it :)
[06:15] <NoUse> ferronica give me an example
[06:15] <harisund> wooow: 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:15] <harisund> wooow: Have you changed your repositories?
[06:15] <njdavid> harisund, I believe my xp partition is hda2
[06:15] <wooow> that's what i thought
[06:15] <njdavid> harisund, My recovery partition is 1
[06:15] <wooow> harisund: no..
[06:15] <intelikey> harisund tell him to 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> now the 'tracker' may  not like some clients.
[06:15] <tritium> ferronica: please use _real_ English words
[06:15] <cdubya> njdavid, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:16] <harisund> intelikey I will have to let you take over then .. thanks .. I haven't used fdisk and so don't have much expertise with that
[06:16] <njdavid> hda2
[06:16] <njdavid> I'm not a super complete nub. :-P
[06:16] <cdubya> njdavid, didn't think so.
[06:16] <njdavid> I just haven't messed with linux in a long time.
[06:16] <Whyvas> ferronica, you're crazy, use bit tornado
[06:16] <cdubya> njdavid, did you add it to fstab?
[06:16] <harisund> njdavid any user who can identify hda2 is far far from being a n00b .. :)
[06:16] <slackern> Dr_Willis, that is true, but i've never ran into trackers not accepting bittornado, but nontheless utorrent is the king of clients and someone needs to port it before i start crying :)
[06:16] <intelikey> harisund that command only lists the partitions of all hard disk
[06:16] <ferronica> NoUse: two days before i tried to download one torrent(^Demonoid.com^_Billy_Sheehan_-_Cosmic_Troubadour_(2005)_[FLAC] ) which is 500MB
[06:17] <njdavid> cdubya, That, I don't know how to do. ;)
[06:17] <harisund> intelikey : oh .. but I believe fdisk is much more capable than that, right?
[06:17] <cdubya> njdavid, hang on....
[06:17] <njdavid> Thanks for helping me everyone.
[06:17] <intelikey> harisund yes indeed.
[06:17] <tritium> ferronica: please don't discuss downloading copyrighted music here
[06:17] <njdavid> I'm sure I'll be asking more questions later. :-/
[06:17] <wooow> omg
[06:17] <ferronica> NoUse: i left it for whole night, wake in morning i saw ERROR in download,
[06:17] <cdubya> njdavid, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:17] <wooow> make isn't a recgonised commang?
[06:17] <tritium> wooow: you need to install build-essential
[06:17] <harisund> wooow: you would have to install it seperately.
[06:17] <slackern> wooow, 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[06:18] <Whyvas> ferronica, why do you use linux?
[06:18] <intelikey> !b-e
[06:18] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[06:18] <cdubya> njdavid, if you follow those docs, they worked just fine when I tried it the first time.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  ive used utorrent.. its ok. :P  but i use rtorrent on my  ssh/fileserver to better effect at times.
[06:18] <NoUse> ferronica I'm downloading it right now using bitorrnado, you are wrong
[06:18] <slackern> Dr_Willis, ahh, you know if it can handle cookies and such from sites too demanding that?
[06:18] <coolio> if i install a program twice by executing the following command: sudo apt-install apache, would that install two different programs of apache or just one?
[06:18] <lkj1> Why isn't my internet connection working? I have run dhclient several times, but it won't reveive an IP.
[06:18] <ferronica> NoUse: If u see one comment is written there
[06:18] <cdubya> njdavid, sudo mkdir /media/windows
[06:18] <Whyvas> coolio, just one
[06:19] <NoUse> ferronica what?
[06:19] <coolio> okay great
[06:19] <cdubya> njdavid, then add a line like this to fstab......
[06:19] <ferronica> NoUse: use utorrent
[06:19] <harisund> lkj1 What sort of a connection are you on?
[06:19] <njdavid> cdubya, Worked perfectly, the diskmounter program I mean.
[06:19] <cdubya> njdavid, kewl.
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  i normally download the .torrent file. then copy them over to my rtorrent's 'incoming' dir.. and it then starts the torrent.. moveing it to 'done' when its done. :P no interaction from me
[06:19] <cdubya> :-)
[06:19] <njdavid> cdubya, Hehe
[06:19] <njdavid> cdubya, Wub.
[06:19] <lkj1> I have a standard cat5 connection that I am trying to use on interface eth0.
[06:19] <cdubya> njdavid, so you got it mounted?
[06:19] <cdubya> heh
[06:19] <njdavid> cdubya, Yeah
[06:19] <NoUse> ferronica Its working on my PC using bittornado, you are wrong
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  if some torrent site demanded me to use cookies.. i would proberly use another site.
[06:19] <cdubya> where'd you mount it?
[06:20] <harisund> lkj1 Typically on reboot Ubuntu should automatically pick up an IP. Are you sure the other end of the cable is plugged in properly to a working DHCP server, like a router for example?
[06:20] <ferronica> NoUse: Leave it for whole download, in last u will see result
[06:20] <njdavid> cdubya, It did it automatically, the 'diskmounter' program mounted it in hda2
[06:20] <wooow> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[06:20] <wooow>  'Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)'
[06:20] <wooow> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[06:20] <wooow> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[06:20] <wooow>  'Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)'
[06:20] <wooow> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[06:20] <tritium> wooow: don't paste!
[06:20] <NoUse> ferronica bittorrent is a standard, any client will work
[06:20] <njdavid> Spammage. ;)
[06:20] <cdubya> njdavid, I just created /media/windows, then created the symlink like the docs said, and have a sweet icon on the desktop that I double-click to do that....
[06:20] <cdubya> heh
[06:20] <slackern> Dr_Willis, ahh oh well, it's working good enough for me now, torrentflux is quite nice too tried it and it works fairly well but i need that cookie support and they have it with a couple of patches and such but im just waiting for a new relase.
[06:20] <Whyvas> ferronica, why do you use linux?
[06:20] <harisund> ubotu tell wooow about repos
[06:20] <lkj1> It is plugged in properly, harrisund. The router is giving DHCP packets because this computer is working with the same cable, but the other won't.
[06:20] <njdavid> cdubya, Oh, the first like 2 sentences say to use the program
[06:21] <wooow> ...
[06:21] <cdubya> njdavid, in the wiki?
[06:21] <lkj1> Apparently, ubuntu doesn't have DHCPCD..
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  what i would like to see is some sort of webinterface to my torrent programs so i can montor them from any machine from the lan.. right now i ssh in and use screen.  Not exactly ideal in ways
[06:21] <njdavid> Yeah
[06:21] <njdavid> Ok
[06:21] <tritium> !enter
[06:21] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:21] <lwizardl> how do you remove an apt-get program
[06:21] <njdavid> cdubya, The 2nd/3rd block of text
[06:21] <cdubya> njdavid, heh, musta looked right passed that.
[06:21] <cdubya> heh
[06:21] <slackern> Dr_Willis, you seen torrentflux, it's a web/php/mysql driven client
[06:21] <njdavid> cdubya, "Mounting partitions with the script"
[06:21] <Apostle^> lkj1, sure it does
[06:21] <harisund> lkj1 Actually DHCPD is not what you want . dhclient is what you want. anyway .. that apart..
[06:21] <cdubya> njdavid, I just set it up manually.
[06:21] <tritium> lwizardl: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[06:21] <cdubya> worked like a charm
[06:21] <njdavid> cdubya, :)
[06:21] <ferronica> Whyvas: why do u use linux???
[06:22] <intelikey> well i have no time to hang around here.   i have a 12k+ bash script to reformat and comment.....
[06:22] <slackern> !torrentflux
[06:22] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slackern
[06:22] <slackern> bah
[06:22] <njdavid> Damnit.
[06:22] <regeya> !ppc
[06:22] <ubotu> methinks ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers.  Supported by Ubuntu PPC.
[06:22] <lkj1> Because you know what is up to, ferronica. You can't with Windoze.
[06:22] <njdavid> My sound isn't working!!!
[06:22] <njdavid> cdubya, know how to fix it?
[06:22] <cdubya> njdavid, was it working before?
[06:22] <slackern> Dr_Willis, http://www.torrentflux.com/
[06:23] <NoUse> ferronica it is strange you run Linux but you want to run all Windows applications, it doesn't make sense
[06:23] <njdavid> cdubya, I just put Ubuntu on here about an hour ago, so no :)
[06:23] <cdubya> njdavid, heh
[06:23] <lwizardl> hmm i'm getting errors tryng to remove phpmyadmin
[06:23] <harisund> lwizardl there's a problem with phpmyadmin
[06:23] <Whyvas> ferronica, database development, why do you use linux?
[06:23] <Whyvas> exactly, it seems like you have no use for linux at all
[06:23] <lkj1> lol phpmyadmin. Just use regular SQL queries
[06:23] <njdavid> cdubya, "No volume control elements and/or devices found."
[06:23] <ferronica> Whyvas: just for my knowledge,
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  heh - i was just googling for it.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:24] <lkj1> jk
[06:24] <ferronica> Whyvas: everytime i wanna to do something new
[06:24] <cdubya> njdavid, did the card at least get picked up by the installer?
[06:24] <harisund> lwizardl I will search if you want, but go to http://ubuntuforums.org and do an advanced search. Saerch for by user 'harisund' and post 'phpmyadmin'
[06:24] <tritium> Whyvas, ferronica: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:24] <NoUse> ferronica you won't learn anything if you only run Windows apps
[06:24] <lkj1> Phpmyadmin rocks
[06:24] <njdavid> cdubya, There was no errors or anything.
[06:24] <njdavid> cdubya, I think I had to do something with alsa last time, I have no clue though.
[06:24] <lkj1> so, what commands should I do to check my eth0? Dmesg doesn't show any useful info..:(
[06:24] <Whyvas> phpmyadmin is the goodies
[06:24] <njdavid> cdubya, Something with modprobe?
[06:24] <njdavid> cdubya, :-P
[06:24] <ferronica> NoUse: you do one thing leave that torrent to download okay
[06:24] <cdubya> njdavid, heh
[06:25] <NoUse> ferronica I'm not gonna download 500MB to prove you wrong
[06:25] <njdavid> cdubya, Any ideas?
[06:25] <ferronica> NoUse: If it done tell me, i am always available in this channel
[06:25] <cdubya> njdavid, is you do a lspci, does the sound card show up properly identified?
[06:25] <Whyvas> ferronica, are you sure you tried bit TORNADO and not the default ubuntu bit torrent client?
[06:25] <ferronica> NoUse: Then i am right,
[06:25] <ferronica> NoUse: yes
[06:26] <mustard5> heh..thats a strange logic :)
[06:26] <tritium> that's no logic at all
[06:26] <ferronica> Whyvas: why should i lie
[06:26] <njdavid> cdubya, I'm not sure, hehe. Something about onboard AC'97 comes up, which I think is right.
[06:26] <ferronica> Whyvas: i used tornado
[06:26] <NoUse> ferronica you aren't lying, you are just horribly misinformed
[06:26] <njdavid> cdubya, 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[06:26] <tritium> Take the torrent talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, guys
[06:27] <harisund> The ops around here, I have a question. I want to add a factoid  to ubotu on uninstalling phpmyadmin. There is a bug in the package, atleast on Breezy, and I know the forum thread to correctly uninstall phpmyadmin (Istarted the thread0
[06:27] <tritium> harisund: go ahead
[06:27] <cdubya> njdavid, heh, that's exactly the same entry I have and my sound works.....:-P
[06:27] <harisund> tritium.. hmm..how do I add?
[06:27] <njdavid> cdubya, What computer do you have?
[06:27] <sparkleytone> harisund: whats the bug...i actually have used that very package
[06:27] <ferronica> Whyvas: this one is Billy_Sheehan original CD
[06:27] <harisund> sparkleytone have you tried uninstalling/purging it?
[06:27] <tritium> !ubotu
[06:27] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:28] <mustard5> harisund, /msg ubotu add
[06:28] <tritium> ferronica: how many times do I have to tell you?
[06:28] <sparkleytone> harisund: i think i tried once but i don't memember what happened...what happens?
[06:28] <cdubya> njdavid, Toshiba laptop
[06:28] <njdavid> cdubya, Oh, I'm using a Desktop...
[06:28] <ferronica> tritium: what???
[06:28] <njdavid> cdubya, Any other ideas?
[06:28] <ferronica> tritium: said something wrong???
[06:28] <harisund> sparkleytone it quits with a dpkg error. The /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.perm script needs to be edited slightly
[06:29] <tritium> ferronica: I've told you repeatedly to take it to -offtopic, and _not_ to discuss downloading copyrighted music
[06:29] <sparkleytone> ah
[06:29] <sparkleytone> harisund: is there a bug filed at launchpad?
[06:29] <aaron_> i need a beter msn on linux haw do i get it
[06:29] <tritium> lkj1: put your /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin please
[06:29] <NoUse> ferronica if you want to talk about bittorent go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:29] <cdubya> njdavid, maybe something here?   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%29
[06:30] <harisund> sparkleytone: I don't know how to check ? I know if that file is modified phpmyadmin gets purged correctly and without it you can't erase phpmyadmin.
[06:30] <ferronica> tritium: fairly tell me hav u never downloded from torrents
[06:30] <cdubya> aaron, gaim
[06:30] <Whyvas> hahaha
[06:30] <ferronica> NoUse: OKAY
[06:30] <sparkleytone> harisund: go to launchpad.net and to the ubuntu distro...then search for phpmyadmin and look at its bugs
[06:30] <cdubya> aaron_, gaim
[06:30] <tritium> ferronica: never music.  Only ubuntu cdimages
[06:30] <aaron_> i need another type of msn for linux
[06:30] <lkj1> BRB, tritium
[06:31] <mustard5> aaron_, I think your options are gaim or amsn
[06:31] <sparkleytone> aaron_: msn?  use gaim.
[06:31] <cdubya> aaron_, to use with messenger?
[06:31] <sparkleytone> amsn is supposed to be pretty good i think
[06:31] <cdubya> aaron_, yeah, use gaim
[06:31] <ferronica> NoUse: now how to remove that wine from my ubuntu that i downloded it??
[06:31] <harisund> ok am doing sparkleytone
[06:31] <NoUse> ferronica synaptic
[06:31] <ferronica> NoUse: So, i stick on BIT  TORNADO
[06:31] <cdubya> aaron_, I use gaim for aim, msn and irc
[06:31] <tokeman> yes amsn works good
[06:31] <aaron_> but it sucks
[06:31] <gleesond> is pcmcia the pc card slot
[06:32] <tokennrg> hrmm, I just did a base install of kubuntu 5.10, it prepended all my mount points with /media e.g. /media/var   is that normal?
[06:32] <aaron_> u cant put pics on it
[06:32] <NoUse> ferronica just search synaptic for bittorrent, you'll find several clients
[06:32] <aaron_> or any thing
[06:32] <Whyvas> and for once it might not be me!
[06:32] <mustard5> tokeman, /media/var sounds very strange :)
[06:32] <sparkleytone> there's also mercury msn (formerly dmsn)
[06:32] <sparkleytone> http://www.mercury.to/
[06:32] <tritium> Whyvas: heh, have you been banned before?
[06:32] <Whyvas> yes
[06:32] <Whyvas> by you
[06:32] <ferronica> NoUse: no no i wanna to uninstall wine from my ubuntu now
[06:32] <aaron_> haw do i get the other one
[06:33] <Whyvas> jesus ferronica
[06:33] <NoUse> ferronica search for it and mark it for uninstall
[06:33] <tritium> Whyvas: heh, but if I recall, I unbanned you as well
[06:33] <regeya> PLEASE HAMMER DON'T HURT EM
[06:33] <NoUse> ferronica have you read http://help.ubuntu.com ?
[06:33] <Whyvas> you did
[06:33] <cdubya> heh
[06:33] <Whyvas> ferronica, where are you from?
[06:33] <ferronica> NoUse: NOPE, i am new in linux
[06:33] <harisund> sparkleytone it says there is a binary package called phpmyadmin but how do I see where the bugs for that package are?
[06:33] <tokeman> tokennrg mustard5 tokeman, /media/var sounds very strange :)
[06:33] <NoUse> ferronica all the more reason to read that webpage
[06:33] <ferronica> Whyvas: from singapore
[06:33] <regeya> I missed something...someone did something  deserving of bannination?
[06:33] <NoUse> ferronica read that page before asking more questions please
[06:34] <harisund> sparkleytone forgive me for my ignorance, but this is the first time I am doing anything outside of IRC and the forums.
[06:34] <Whyvas> ah
[06:34] <tritium> regeya: not yet
[06:34] <harisund> So I don't want to do anything wront
[06:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, i'll pastebin the dmes output incase it helps
[06:34] <sparkleytone> harisund: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bugs
[06:34] <Whyvas> isn't there an ubuntu channel in your native language?
[06:34] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks
[06:34] <mustard5> tokeman, thanks ..sorry about that :)
[06:34] <aaron_> haw do i instal amsn  when i tryed it said it wosent supported
[06:34] <tokeman> mustard5 NP
[06:34] <regeya> hey, I've openly harassed gnome devs here and never gotten banned.  whaddaya have to do, sprinkle your bittorrent links with profanities and references to sexual relations with one's mother?
[06:35] <tokennrg> odd indeed /media/ /media/usr  /media/data
[06:35] <cdubya> aaron_, sudo apt-get install amsn
[06:35] <tokeman> aaron find the advanced options look for repository
[06:35] <lkj1_> Tritium: http://pastebin.com/712945
[06:35] <mustard5> tokennrg, I would be concerned about it :)
[06:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/712946
[06:36] <tokeman> !sound
[06:36] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> its a ide hdd in an external usb enclosure. the same stuff happens when its turned on with cable select or master
[06:36] <harisund> sparkleytone: I am referring to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79934. But in your bugs page I couldn't find anything of that sort. Could you check up both if you don't mind?
[06:36] <tritium> lkj1_: you need eth0 configured properly.  You want it to come up on boot?
[06:36] <lkj1_> That would be nice.
[06:36] <ferronica> Whyvas: are u downloding it
[06:36] <tritium> lkj1_: that looks terrible as it is.
[06:36] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: sec
[06:36] <Whyvas> ferronica, i need a link
[06:37] <njdavid> cdubya, I think this is the module I need http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+AC97+audio.&chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+ICH4%2C+ICH5%2C+ICH6&module=intel8x0 but I have no idea what to do now.
[06:37] <ferronica> Whyvas: ^Demonoid.com^_Billy_Sheehan_-_Cosmic_Troubadour_(2005)_[FLAC] 
[06:37] <lkj1_> I have already ifconfig up'd it, why won't it work? No special modules that I know of..
[06:37] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: "scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery" seems to be key.
[06:37] <ferronica> http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/342200/
[06:37] <tritium> lkj1_: you need these two lines: "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp", assuming you're using DHCP
[06:37] <ferronica> Whyvas: http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/342200/
[06:37] <glick> hey has anyone plated civ4 with cedega?
[06:37] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: can you verify that the volume(s) is(are) not mounted via /etc/mtab ?
[06:37] <lkj1_> so just edit the file in vi, tritium?
[06:37] <NoUse> ferronica you aren't in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:37] <tritium> ferronica: no more warnings about copyright infringement
[06:37] <fiend> hello guys, do you know any desktop resource monitors beside gkrellm and superkaramba? the one that's more console-like that gui, thanks
[06:37] <ferronica> Whyvas: Its a full CD in FLAC format
[06:38] <slackern> !mods
[06:38] <ubotu> slackern: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:38] <slackern> doh
[06:38] <harisund> slackern ops perhaps?
[06:38] <tritium> !aq ferronica
[06:38] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tritium
[06:38] <ferronica> NoUse: little bit can we talk???
[06:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, nothing came up in 'mount' or 'cat/proc/partitions' or 'ls /dev/sd*' but i'll turn on a box to test it on
[06:38] <NoUse> ferronica in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:38] <ferronica> Whyvas: got or not now
[06:39] <njdavid> harisund, Know how to fix sound problems?
[06:39] <ferronica> NoUse: RULES r very strict i think???
[06:39] <njdavid> harisund, The module for my sound is loaded.
[06:39] <ferronica> NoUse: :(
[06:39] <harisund> sparkleytone could you check?
[06:39] <sparkleytone> harisund: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/44325
[06:39] <NoUse> ferronica only when you don't listen
[06:39] <njdavid> But it just doesn't output :-/
[06:39] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: ok, good. Assuming the device is now /dev/sdc, please ``sudo fsck /dev/sdc1''
[06:39] <cdubya> njdavid, did you try alsamixer to make sure it wasn't muted
[06:39] <ferronica> NoUse: i just uninstalled the wine
[06:39] <harisund> Awesome sparkleytone How did you find it? Great. I just wanted that added to ubotu
[06:40] <lkj1_> Tritium:I added those lines. Now what?
[06:40] <njdavid> cdubya, It's not muted
[06:40] <lkj1_> Reboot?
[06:40] <sparkleytone> harisund: i opened the bug.  who knows if it will get fixed.
[06:40] <ferronica> Whyvas: are u there???
[06:40] <tritium> lkj1_: yes, and you can delete some of those duplicate lines if you want
[06:40] <lkj1_> Thanks, I will try it. :)
[06:40] <sparkleytone> harisund: for future ref...you can search for a package on the ubuntu page and there is a bug list link on the left
[06:41] <harisund> ok done. Thanks :)
[06:41] <Whyvas> ferronica, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:41] <ferronica> NoUse: how to go in
[06:41] <sparkleytone> you're welcome
[06:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, no device is made though. just getting ready to check mtab
[06:41] <ferronica> Whyvas: HOW
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !irc
[06:41] <ubotu> hmm... irc is info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[06:41] <ferronica> Whyvas: r u going there
[06:41] <njdavid> cdubya, :(
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> - /join #channelname
[06:41] <harisund> seriously tritium , Iwish that package was there
[06:41] <intelikey> tritium ^5
[06:41] <NoUse> ferronica /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:42] <tritium> harisund: :)
[06:42] <slackern> !lordallmighty
[06:42] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slackern
[06:42] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: err, sorry, miscounted. scsi4 would be /dev/sdd
[06:42] <harisund> !goo' boy
[06:42] <ubotu> harisund: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:42] <etmntONE> I just formatted an hdd to fat32... how do check what file system it is
[06:42] <etmntONE> df -a doesn't display the fs of a device
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> fdisk -l
[06:42] <etmntONE> thanks
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> if you formated it to fat32.. then it had to be a fat32 file system befo rya could format it.
[06:42] <intelikey> mount if it's mounted
[06:43] <cdubya> njdavid, wish I was more help.
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, i have no /dev/sd devices
[06:43] <etmntONE> it's mounted but admin > disks it reports ext3
[06:43] <njdavid> cdubya, Know of anyone that can help?
[06:43] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: hmm. Has it ever worked?
[06:43] <intelikey> Kamping_Kaiser look in /dev/.static/   iirc
[06:44] <etmntONE> fdisk -l doesn't display
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, "it works in windows". its a mates device, i'm borrowing it to do the bugsearching
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> etmntONE,  use 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:44] <slackern> 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:44] <intelikey> etmntONE sudo
[06:44] <cdubya> njdavid, one of the pros like crimsun or tritium prolly, but I'm not sure......sound isn't really my strong suit.....just trying to help if I can.....:-/
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> and it comes with drivers ffor windows. dont know if that changes anything
[06:44] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: but hasn't worked in Linux at all?
[06:44] <slackern> hehe was there someone saying just a few minutes ago how quiet it was in here i belive?
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, no. not on 3 machines and 2 kernel revisions
[06:45] <etmntONE> under system is says Liux
[06:45] <etmntONE> but doesn't display the filesystem
[06:45] <crimsun> njdavid: recap, please?
[06:45] <njdavid> crimsun, My sound isn't working, the module's it needs are installed, and it's not muted.
[06:45] <tritium> cdubya: that's nice, but I'm no pro ;)
[06:45] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: ick, probably a scsi issue in linux 2.6, then :/
[06:45] <cdubya> crimsun, he's got sound mod loaded up, but no sound. AC-97 controller
[06:45] <etmntONE> any other way to check the file system?
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, :( so a kernel bug?
[06:45] <cdubya> tritium, more of one than I. :-)
[06:45] <crimsun> njdavid: pastebin ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[06:45] <tritium> :)
[06:46] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: either that or udev
[06:46] <ferronica> how to change channel guys????????????????????
[06:46] <Apostle^> how do i switch between users without logging anyone out?
[06:46] <ferronica> tritium: how to change channel????
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, so which should i file a bug against?
[06:46] <sparkleytone> /join #channel
[06:46] <tritium> ferronica: type this ^
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> ferronica, read what people tell you
[06:46] <etmntONE> would this be a correct fstab entry for a Fat32 drive?
[06:46] <etmntONE> /dev/hdb1       /media/slave    fat32    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> you were told 10 minutes ago
[06:46] <njdavid> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/712952
[06:46] <Whyvas> ferronica, it works
[06:46] <Whyvas> ferronica, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:47] <cdubya> etmntONE, change fat32 to vfat.......
[06:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> etmntONE, dont need to remount-ro, and personaly i dont put partitions in /media
[06:47] <intelikey> etmntONE ah no fdisk will only show the partition type not the actual fs.   linux = ext2 partition    could actually be any fs.    if it's mounted   mount    will tell you what it is.
[06:47] <Apostle^> how do i switch between users without logging anyone out?
[06:47] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: lsmod |grep ^sd_mod
[06:47] <etmntONE> thanks
[06:47] <crimsun> njdavid: ok, hold a sec, tackling multiple things concurrently
[06:47] <intelikey> etmntONE no not fat32   vfat
[06:47] <tritium> Apostle^: there is a user-fast-switch gnome package in universe
[06:48] <etmntONE> /dev/hdb1 on /media/slave type vfat (rw)
[06:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, "sd_mod      20448 0"
[06:48] <etmntONE> thanks a lot guys
[06:48] <njdavid> crimsun, It's cool. I appreciate it :)
[06:48] <intelikey> oh i'm lagging...
[06:48] <tritium> Apostle^: fast-user-switch-applet is the name, I believe
[06:48] <crimsun> njdavid: are you using the optical/digital output or regular analog speakers?
[06:49] <Apostle^> tritium, i don't think i gave this account sudo powers, how do i do that?
[06:49] <njdavid> crimsun, Hehe, I'm not sure. 5 speakers, from Logitech. :-/
[06:49] <tritium> Apostle^: add that user to the admin group
[06:49] <crimsun> njdavid: in Applications> Accessories> Terminal, type: amixer set 'IEC958' off
[06:49] <lkj1> tritium: still didn't work. Maybe it is a hardware problem?
[06:49] <njdavid> crimsun, Do you want me to paste the output?
[06:49] <Apostle^> tritium, how do i do that? :-)
[06:49] <crimsun> njdavid: no need, we're not finished yet.
[06:50] <njdavid> crimsun, Ok.
[06:50] <crimsun> njdavid: now: amixer set 'Surround' on && amixer set 'Surround' 80% && amixer set 'Center' on && amixer set 'LFE' on && amixer set 'LFE' 80%
[06:50] <tritium> lkj1: perhaps the module isn't loading automatically?
[06:50] <crimsun> njdavid: (copy and paste that)
[06:51] <lkj1> Why wouldn't it? I added those lines.
[06:51] <tritium> lkj1: which NIC?
[06:51] <lkj1> eth0
[06:51] <tritium> lkj1: yes, but which manufacturer/model?
[06:51] <njdavid> crimsun, What exactly is that doing? (only 2 of my speakers work, because I am using an onboard sound card.)
[06:51] <lkj1> I don't know..
[06:51] <lkj1> How do I find out without taking my comp apart?
[06:51] <tritium> lkj1: please check with lspci or dmesg
[06:51] <cdubya> Apostle^, System >Administration > Users and Groups
[06:52] <Apostle^> cdubya, thanks
[06:52] <crimsun> njdavid: now: amixer set 'Duplicate Front' on
[06:52] <det_> Safe to upgrade from flight-7 today?
[06:52] <C-O-L-T> can I set my computer to auto turn off? I mean for example I am printing something and after it would like to turn off my computer. Is there a possibility?
[06:52] <cdubya> Apostle^, np
[06:52] <njdavid> crimsun, Ok
[06:52] <etmntONE> hmmm... it's mounted and I did "sudo chmod 777 -R /media/slave" and when I try to copy to it, it says I don't have permission?
[06:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> C-O-L-T, only if you use a script or an acpi timeout
[06:52] <lkj1> lspci says: Accton Corporation ethernet interface.. Never heard of Accton
[06:52] <etmntONE> any idea why? this is a vfat partition
[06:53] <fiend> hello guys, do you know any desktop resource monitors beside gkrellm and superkaramba? the one that's more console-like that gui, thanks
[06:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> etmntONE, you shouldnt havce to chmod a fat32 partition
[06:53] <crimsun> njdavid: does ``aplay -Dplug:surround51 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' give you any audible volume?
[06:53] <etmntONE> I tried without it, but it says I can't write
[06:53] <cdubya> heh
[06:53] <njdavid> crimsun, no :(
[06:53] <C-O-L-T> Kamping_Kaiser: is it so complicated. I mean I am not at home and I would like to turn off my pc. There is not a tool to which i say turn off my computer in 3 min a tool that pushes the turn off button? :D
[06:53] <stone_> hello, can someone please help me with PPC install?
[06:53] <etmntONE> however with root I can write to it?
[06:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> C-O-L-T, short answer: no :)
[06:54] <crimsun> njdavid: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[06:54] <etmntONE> How would I let normal users write to my vfat partition?
[06:54] <njdavid> crimsun, Now what?
[06:54] <crimsun> njdavid: how about now (w/ aplay)?
[06:54] <tritium> lkj1: do you get any output for eth0 from ifconfig?
[06:54] <stone_> i have a Pismo with a brand new 80gb HD. first 60gb is OS X. 20gb is empty. i burn breezy ISO with FireStarter and Toast, put into Pismo, hold down C and nothing happens.
[06:54] <etmntONE> chmod 777 -R seems to not work
[06:54] <C-O-L-T> Kamping_Kaiser: :(
[06:55] <etmntONE> :(
[06:55] <Apostle^> stone_, firestarter is not a cd-burning program?
[06:55] <njdavid> crimsun, Woo it worked!
[06:55] <cdubya> Apostle^, no....firewall
[06:55] <intelikey> etmntONE man mount   and use /  to search for  mask
[06:55] <lkj1> only the mac address and other stuff, and it says no packets received tritium
[06:55] <Apostle^> cdubya, he said he burned an iso with it.. :-0
[06:55] <crimsun> njdavid: awesome, I'll need to modify alsa-utils yet again  <sigh>
[06:55] <cdubya> njdavid, crimsun's the man.
[06:55] <stone_> Apostle^: I tried both firestarter and Toast. both burn ISOs to CD. both burn them seemingly fine.
[06:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> C-O-L-T, :(
[06:55] <tritium> lkj1: okay, but that's a good sign
[06:55] <njdavid> crimsun, But nothing else works..
[06:55] <stone_> yet neither will make the CD bootable on my pismo
[06:55] <Apostle^> stone_, firestarter is a firewall not a cd-burning program?
[06:55] <crimsun> njdavid: not sure what you mean?
[06:55] <tritium> lkj1: what does "sudo ifup eth0" do for you?
[06:56] <tritium> Apostle^: yes
[06:56] <intelikey> etmntONE in short  mount it with umask=0  gets every body full access.
[06:56] <regeya> Kamping_Kaiser: if your nick is something you DM under, remind me to never DM with you.
[06:56] <cdubya> Apostle^, if it's the same app I'm thinking of, yes
[06:56] <stone_> if i hold down Option I see the Ubuntu CD. when i select it I get dropped into Open Firmware.
[06:56] <njdavid> crimsun, The aplay command let me hear the sound, but when I try to play a movie, it doesn't work.
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[06:56] <cdubya> Apostle^, gnomebaker
[06:56] <lkj1> it says already configured, tritium
[06:56] <etmntONE> /dev/hdb1       /media/slave    vfat    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0
[06:56] <crimsun> njdavid: using which program?
[06:56] <etmntONE> where would I add that unmask-0 part
[06:56] <Apostle^> cdubya, he keeps saying he uses it to burn cd's :-P
[06:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> regeya, deathmatch? it used to be... untill i switched to linux.
[06:56] <njdavid> crimsun, Totem?
[06:56] <etmntONE> umask=0, sorry
[06:57] <regeya> stone_: forgive me if you've answered this already....wait, I see you have.  no idea on a pismo.  that's weird that you get dumped to OF.
[06:57] <stone_> Apostle^: firestarter is a CD/DVD burning app on OS X
[06:57] <cdubya> Apostle^, heh
[06:57] <njdavid> lol
[06:57] <njdavid> crimsun, nevermind
[06:57] <njdavid> crimsun, hehe
[06:57] <regeya> Kamping_Kaiser: I used to DM under Linux...Quake, obviously....
[06:57] <stone_> regeya: i agree. it is very weird.
[06:57] <tritium> lkj1: can I double-check your /etc/network/interfaces again please?
[06:57] <cdubya> Apostle^, stone_ is prolly right there....I don't use OS X anymore
[06:57] <Apostle^> stone_, ahh, i understand now...... i was thinking of linux
[06:57] <lkj1> Tritium: http://pastebin.com/712945
[06:57] <regeya> pismo...pismo...
[06:57] <Apostle^> cdubya, yea, miscommunication
[06:57] <tritium> lkj1: is this after you edited it?
[06:57] <stone_> Apostle^: i want to get to linux
[06:57] <lkj1> no, before
[06:57] <cdubya> Apostle^, but on Ubuntu, it's a firewall app
[06:57] <stone_> new World
[06:57] <tritium> lkj1: can I see the new version?
[06:57] <stone_> it uses Open Firmware
[06:58] <etmntONE> :/
[06:58] <lkj1> yes, 1sec
[06:58] <cdubya> stone_, what's the issue
[06:58] <regeya> wait, new world if OF, right?  /me is ignorant of mac history
[06:58] <cdubya> regeya, yep
[06:58] <stone_> cdubya: the ISO CDs I try to burn do not boot my Powerbook Pismo G3 while holding down C.
[06:58] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: sorry, missed your response
[06:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, np. i let you worry about your other questions.
[06:58] <stone_> cdubya: i have tried two different programs, two different CDs
[06:59] <cdubya> stone_, did you try to burn the ISO using disk utility
[06:59] <stone_> cdubya: i have had very poor experiences with that in the past.
[06:59] <stone_> i am on OS X now
[06:59] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: I don't know offhand if it's udev's or linux-source-2.6.15's fault. I'd file it against the former.
[06:59] <cdubya> stone_, I've never had disk utility on Panther fail me once on an ISO burn unless it was my fault
[06:59] <cdubya> that's why I asked
[06:59] <stone_> cdubya: i will try disk utility then
[06:59] <stone_> be back in a bit
[06:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, thanks. i'll do that
[06:59] <cdubya> stone_, just a thought
[06:59] <regeya> aha!  pismo! http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/pismo.shtml
[07:00] <lkj1> Tritium: http://pastebin.com/712956
[07:00] <cdubya> heh
[07:00] <cdubya> yep, that's it regeya
[07:00] <Whyvas> stone_, you should of bought a real computer
[07:00] <tritium> should have?
[07:01] <Whyvas> and not an over-priced useless piece of eye candy
[07:01] <tritium> lkj1: thanks
[07:01] <Whyvas> hehe
[07:01] <stone_> Whyvas: this is an old powerbook pismo i have been using for years and years. served me VERY VERY well.
[07:01] <lkj1> Unfortunately, I have to go to bed. Need to be at work early tomorrow. I'll be back tritium.
[07:01] <stone_> cdubya: i am burning the ISO using DU now.
[07:01] <tritium> lkj1: I can fix it for you
[07:02] <lkj1> ok
[07:02] <tritium> lkj1: I'll query you
[07:02] <dli> stone_, how old? what cpu?
[07:02] <stone_> i have years of experience with YDL and Fedora (ppc and x86) but i have never seen this before
[07:02] <cdubya> stone_, their pretty decent from what I've heard....if that ISO fails, then maybe there's an issue with the ISO file itself?
[07:02] <cdubya> stone_, know a few folks that run Panther on Pismos
[07:02] <stone_> dli: it's a 2000 Powerbook G3/400 1gbRAM, 80gb HD
[07:02] <lkj1> how do you mean, tritium?
[07:02] <stone_> it normally runs Tiger
[07:02] <dli> stone_, check md5sum of the iso file
[07:02] <stone_> cdubya: i am thinking that but hoping now
[07:02] <stone_> dli: how?
[07:02] <tritium> lkj1: PM, essentially
[07:03] <cdubya> dli, that's what I was thinking, just couldn't remember how
[07:03] <cdubya> he
[07:03] <dli> stone_, "md5sum foo.iso"
[07:03] <cdubya> heh
[07:03] <stone_> dli: can you be more specific, please?
[07:03] <tritium> lkj1: you should have it now
[07:03] <lkj1> thanks! I will write that down! Goodnight, all. :)
[07:03] <regeya> Whyvas: in all seriousness, have you ever used an OS X machine?  veeeeeeeeeeery nice, at least if you have a quartz extreme compliant gfx card ;-)
[07:03] <dli> stone_, "man md5sum"
[07:03] <cdubya> stone_, just issue that command to the filename...... md5sum filename.iso
[07:03] <regeya> Whyvas: and it's not as dumbed down as GNOME.  never thought I'd see an environment more dumbed-down than MacOS.
[07:04] <stone_> cdubya, dli : doing it now
[07:04] <cdubya> heh
[07:04] <stone_> bstone$ md5sum ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso
[07:04] <stone_> how long should it take?
[07:04] <stone_> it says
[07:04] <stone_> 8886a26a1da1daa3669ed6e1253bd93b  ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso
[07:04] <dli> stone_, and you can get the correct checksum from the download site
[07:05] <Whyvas> regeya, that doesn't change the fact that they're overpriced eye candy for prissy users
[07:05] <regeya> 1GHz Pismo???!?  mac people are scary.
[07:05] <stone_> dli: this is where i got it: ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/
[07:05] <stone_> where is the checksum?
[07:05] <regeya> Whyvas: prissy users who *don't* have to have features pulled out to relieve confusion, though... ;-D
[07:06] <Whyvas> yeah, prissy users who do "video editing" on a mac because it's faster
[07:06] <dli> stone_, check the official ubuntu site
[07:06] <regeya> "Wait!  I just thought of something!  There's some guy in West Virginia who MIGHT get confused if he EVER USED GNOME and tried to RIP A CD and was presented with BITRATE OPTIONS!  WE GOTTA TAKE THAT OUT!!!!! OHNOES!Q#$^8"
[07:07] <intelikey> hmmm is this a mac -vs- blah war ?
[07:07] <stone_> dli cdubya : checksum checks out
[07:07] <stone_> same on each
[07:07] <stone_> md5 command spits out what the mirror has exactly
[07:07] <regeya> intelikey: trolls trolling the troll
[07:07] <cdubya> stone_, k. you going to try the one you burned with disk utility?
[07:08] <Centaur5> Is there a program similar to KMix for gnome?
[07:08] <stone_> cdubya: putting it in now
[07:08] <dli> stone_, yes, checksum is correct
[07:08] <manji> hey, what package gives me all the microsoft truetype fonts?
[07:08] <cdubya> stone_, so is it dropping you into OF?
[07:08] <stone_> cdubya: when i hold down C it boots to OS X normally
[07:08] <dli> stone_, then, check the cd
[07:08] <stone_> when i hold down Option and select the Ubuntu CD, it drops me to OF
[07:08] <Whyvas> intelikey, no, this is me talking about hardware and regeya talking about specific software of a specific OS
[07:09] <regeya> So hardware is overpriced eyecandy...right...
[07:09] <regeya> gotcha.
[07:09] <Whyvas> mac hardware is...
[07:09] <stone_> damn
[07:09] <stone_> c fails
[07:09] <stone_> holding down option
[07:09] <stone_> i can see the Ubuntu CD with the penguin
[07:09] <Whyvas> im not talking about the eyecandy of a desktop
[07:09] <Whyvas> i mean the way a machine looks
[07:09] <mugzie> can someone help me im having trouble getting java runtime enviorment for my firefox i read the wiki but im still confused i dont know exactly what to do
[07:10] <stone_> and IT BOOTS ME TO OF!!! GAHHS
[07:10] <ferronica> ok
[07:10] <igcek> how to mount sb key?#mount /dev/***
[07:10] <regeya> ok, well, since you're not biting, Whyvas, I'll have to agree.  we have these eMacs at work that are failing at an incredible speed due to BAD CAPACITORS.  But DERN they're PURTY
[07:10] <Whyvas> mugzie, use synaptic package manager to install it
[07:10] <cdubya> stone_, try to boot the cd from there
[07:10] <igcek> usb*
[07:10] <stone_> cdubya: i shall
[07:10] <stone_> be back in a few
[07:10] <tritium> !tell stone about enter
[07:10] <ebaad> hello everybody
[07:10] <Whyvas> regeya, solder some new ones on
[07:10] <intelikey> igcek mount /dev/sd? /mount/point
[07:11] <Whyvas> that's an easy fix
[07:11] <ebaad> I have a question about upgrade
[07:11] <Whyvas> i fix old mobos with bad caps all the time
[07:11] <mugzie> whyvas i dont got synpatic on this im using floxbox
[07:11] <ebaad> I get the error E: couldn't find package update
[07:11] <ferronica> Whyvas:??????//
[07:11] <regeya> meanwhile we can't replace hardware until it dies, and we have these damned beige macs all over the place too.  I think they were designed to survive thermonuclear war, or something.
[07:12] <ebaad> when updating the applications
[07:12] <regeya> whyvas, in between slacking and loafing, I'll do that.
[07:12] <Whyvas> heh
[07:12] <ebaad> can somebody tell me how to fix it
[07:12] <igcek> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:12] <igcek> root@clj22-212:/home/irena#
[07:12] <intelikey> everyone seems to be flocking to floxbox these days.
[07:12] <mugzie> whyvas im in floxbox they dont got synpatic
[07:12] <Whyvas> err
[07:12] <regeya> floxbox?
[07:12] <mugzie> fluxbox i meant
[07:12] <Whyvas> use dselect
[07:13] <Whyvas> or dpkg
[07:13] <mugzie> um sorry im so new idk what u talking bout
[07:13] <regeya> yeh why the sudden fluxbox resurgence
[07:13] <dli> mugzie, you can run synaptic in fluxbox or any wm
[07:13] <intelikey> igcek that error is deceptive.  probably menas that the wrong device node was specified.
[07:13] <mugzie> dli but how would i run it
[07:14] <Whyvas> open a shell and type synaptic
[07:14] <miguelsr> hey does some one know how to search movies on megaupload?
[07:14] <Whyvas> as root
[07:14] <dli> mugzie, I heard about gksudo
[07:14] <Whyvas> to be root, type sudo synaptic
[07:14] <Whyvas> then put in your user password
[07:14] <tritium> miguelsr: don't discuss that here
[07:14] <intelikey> gksudo if you please.
[07:14] <regeya> besides, whyvas, my talents don't lie in the solder-something-and-have-it-work-afterward area...ok, this time I mean it, </offtopic>
[07:14] <miguelsr> where!!
[07:14] <dli> whyami, then, you get "can not open DISPLAY"
[07:14] <mugzie> ok
[07:15] <stone_> cdubya dli : never trust a checksum.
[07:15] <cdubya> stone_, how's that?
[07:15] <tritium> miguelsr: how about nowhere, since that's illegal?
[07:15] <ebaad> I get the error E: couldn't find package update
[07:15] <Apostle^> hardware question: if you remove all the ram from a mobo, boot it and it gives no beep it is fried like an egg yes?
[07:15] <ebaad> when trying to update installation
[07:15] <stone_> cdubya: it failed to boot my perfectly working desktop g4
[07:15] <manji> hey, what package gives me all the microsoft truetype fonts?
[07:15] <tritium> msttcorefonts
[07:15] <cdubya> stone_, heh
[07:15] <manji> ah many thanks
[07:16] <intelikey> Apostle^ depends on the board
[07:16] <Whyvas> cannot open display??
[07:16] <dli> stone_, you can never trust a checksum for 100%, but it's very unlikely you shouldn't trust it for practical purposes
[07:16] <whyami> is there a way I can install ubuntu onto a mounted disk image within another ubuntu machine?
[07:16] <Apostle^> intelikey, i have another computer where it turns on, all the hd's led's fans etc, but nothing happens.
[07:16] <manji> whyami: of course
[07:16] <stone_> i have never used md5 before and i won't ever again. lol
[07:16] <tritium> stone_: why not?
[07:16] <stone_> i am downloading from a different mirror this time
[07:16] <dli> whyami, what about simply "cp -a" your currect ubuntu to it?
[07:17] <stone_> tritium: because md5 told me the download i had was fine, when it was not
[07:17] <cdubya> stone_, hate to say it, but you might try to download the ISO again, if it's not too painful on your connection.
[07:17] <whyami> becuase I want to put just a minimal install on this disk image.
[07:17] <dli> stone_, why it is not fine?
[07:17] <stone_> cdubya: step ahead of ya
[07:17] <tritium> stone_: if the checksum was correct, the image was good
[07:17] <stone_> already 33mb into it
[07:17] <stone_> 250kb/sec
[07:17] <dli> whyami, I don't know ubuntu has a minimum, go debian
[07:17] <Whyvas> stone_, did you try the cd check in the boot menu?
[07:17] <cdubya> stone_, installed that on a Bondi here at that house that I had several of laying around.....it was kinda fun actually
[07:18] <whyami> the server install is minimum enough. This is what I want to install.
[07:18] <cdubya> stone_, figuring out the right mouse click equivalents was interesting.....heh
[07:18] <stone_> i am frm a mac family. got three here with me.
[07:18] <Madpilot> stone_, run the torrent instead - bittorrent does checking as it downloads
[07:18] <dli> tritium, theoretically, the image could be still bad
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.500000]  VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdb.
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.514000]  VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev sdb.
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.527000]  VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev sdb.
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.542000]  ReiserFS: sdb: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on sdb
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.556000]  ReiserFS: sdb: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on sdb
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.570000]  XFS: bad magic number
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.570000]  XFS: SB validate failed
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.584000]  XFS: bad magic number
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.584000]  XFS: SB validate failed
[07:18] <cdubya> stone_, /me grew up on macs.....but haven't bought a new one yet
[07:18] <Apostle^> igcek, pastebin.com please
[07:18] <Whyvas> and the KICK!
[07:18] <intelikey> some older boards have enough ram on board to boot w/o any sticks....  some only run the bios test if they have ram....  most key the speeker about three times indicating the unable to post bios error.   Apostle^
[07:18] <stone_> i hae issues with bittorrent. my ISP is the public school across the street and it blocks BT
[07:18] <tritium> No, he's not kicked, just quieted
[07:19] <stone_> tritium: that was cool. you're a stealth op!
[07:19] <tritium> dli: the MD5 collision issue is very rare
[07:19] <Apostle^> intelikey, mine is a newer, p4 pci-express board, when i remove the ram no beeps, when i boot it with it no beeps, but also nothing else
[07:19] <Madpilot> stoat, all the ops here are "stealthed" ;)
[07:19] <tritium> stone_: we don't like to remain opped
[07:19] <stone_> Madpilot: stoat?
[07:19] <mugzie> ok i in synaptic what now what should i look under for java?
[07:19] <dli> tritium, theoretically, it's very rare
[07:19] <cdubya> heh
[07:19] <Madpilot> stone_, gah - tab-complete error...
[07:20] <stone_> and where did this ridiculous _ come from in my nick?
[07:20] <stone_> weird
[07:20] <whyami> so how do I install the server installation files on a mounted hd image?
[07:20] <Apostle^> stone_, 'stone' is probably taken
[07:20] <borikangel> i got problem with linux, anybody help me????
[07:20] <cdubya> stone_, I think it does that if that's a second choice
[07:20] <Whyvas> god this channel is frustrating
[07:20] <tritium> dli: even practically, it's very rare ;)
[07:20] <stone_> tritium: you've got an @
[07:20] <stone_> !
[07:20] <ubotu> stone_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:21] <intelikey> Apostle^ i'd pull all periferials and test with only the speaker pluged in.  no drives no sound/vidio nothing   if possable.
[07:21] <tritium> stone_: I had to unquiet somebody ;)
[07:21] <stone_> tritium: where did your @ go?
[07:21] <stone_> it left!
[07:21] <tritium> doh!
[07:21] <Apostle^> intelikey, i see, what does the speaker look like
[07:21] <dli> whyami, you cp the vmlinuz, initrd, and the .iso installation image from the installation cd to hdd, and install hdd to load the vmlinuz image
[07:21] <Apostle^> intelikey, the cord atleast
[07:21] <borikangel> dam
[07:21] <tritium> Whyvas: what's the matter?
[07:22] <intelikey> small two wire with a dubble female plug
[07:22] <dli> whyami, if you mean, you want an installation hdd rather than an installation cd
[07:22] <Whyvas> just a never ending flow of annoyances
[07:22] <Apostle^> intelikey, hmm, i don't really know what that means :-)
[07:22] <stone_> just broke 100mb on the download
[07:23] <stone_> should this partition i am using for the Ubuntu be "Free space" or simple empty but formatted?
[07:23] <dli> stone_, you can use jigdo to download .iso
[07:23] <intelikey> Apostle^ if you can recognize 'the speaker' in the box.  follow the wires from it.
[07:23] <stone_> dli: jigdo?
[07:23] <whyami> dli: what I want is a disk image which I can then copy onto another machine and will just boot up ubuntu.
[07:23] <Apostle^> intelikey, does it look like an ordinary speaker?
[07:23] <intelikey> yep most of them do
[07:23] <dli> whyami, cp your current installation to it
[07:24] <whyami> dli: my current installation is too big.
[07:24] <Apostle^> intelikey, the video is built in, is that okay
[07:24] <charchuck> Can anyone help me with a repository problem?  I'm new to all of this and am getting a message I don't understand.
[07:24] <stone_> btw, check this out
[07:24] <stone_> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[07:24] <intelikey> not really.  but nothing you can do about it.
[07:24] <dli> whyami, then, you chroot to it, and remove packages
[07:24] <stone_> my maintainer is a close friend of mine. he got me into linux stuff
[07:24] <silvalynin> hey guys, i just got ubuntu installed, but i'm having trouble getting Flash installed
[07:25] <dli> charchuck, pastebin the error message
[07:25] <Apostle^> intelikey, well i have a pci-express card, but i removed it to rule it out as being the problem
[07:25] <stone_> silvalynin: try gnash. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[07:25] <dli> charchuck, if you don't want others to guess
[07:25] <charchuck> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:25] <charchuck> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:25] <mugzie> hey guys im in synaptic but which java do i install?
[07:26] <mugzie> ??
[07:26] <tritium> charchuck: don't do that again please
[07:26] <silvalynin> stone, is that just as good?
[07:26] <dli> tritium, my fault, I should have said, "go to pastebin.com, and paste it there" :(
[07:26] <intelikey> Apostle^ yes.  that is the idea.   zero in on the exact culpret.  then you will know what needs to be done.  as long as the condition is "doesn't work"  it's kinda hard to fix...  when the error is known then a course of action becomes plain.
[07:27] <tritium> dli: no problem :)
[07:27] <charchuck> I'm sorry... Someone asked to see the error message.  Like I said, I'm new to all of this.
[07:27] <stone_> silvalynin: i dunno. never used it before, but a close friend mad it
[07:27] <Apostle^> intelikey, i think the whole MB is fried for some reason
[07:27] <tritium> charchuck: it's no problem :)
[07:27] <mugzie> um can someone help?
[07:27] <dli> charchuck, yes, but I said, "pastebin it" :( ask ubotu about pastebin
[07:27] <Apostle^> intelikey, even though visual inspection reveals no damaged
[07:27] <Madpilot> charchuck, next time, use pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:27] <silvalynin> oo, anyway to just get the original file working?
[07:27] <stone_> ok time for this little boy to go to bed
[07:27] <stone_> i gotta walk the woman to the bus at 9am
[07:28] <intelikey> Apostle^ it indeed can be.    one other thing.  have you replaced the cpu to see if it's a core falt ?
[07:28] <stone_> goodnight, friends. thank you all much for your patience and assistance
[07:28] <cdubya> mugzie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[07:28] <cdubya> stone_, later
[07:28] <charchuck> Heh, sorry.  I thought it was a typo and you just meant paste.  Sorry. =] 
[07:28] <silvalynin> nite
[07:28] <mugzie> no no im in synpatic like everyone told me to
[07:28] <charchuck> Thanks for the address though.
[07:28] <silvalynin> so, can anyone help me with getting Flash installed?
[07:28] <mugzie> u just wanna know what java file do i download i want the run time
[07:28] <Apostle^> intelikey, l don't have another pentium 4 to put in it, i'm going to take it to the shop i guess.
[07:28] <dli> !ubotu tell silvalynin about flash
[07:29] <intelikey> Apostle^ putting that cpu in another box would be a good test.    (even at a shop)
[07:29] <cdubya> silvalynin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29           look for the flash section
[07:29] <mugzie> but im kinda confused'
[07:29] <silvalynin> alright, thanks both of you
[07:29] <dli> silvalynin, I like firefox because I really hate flash :(
[07:29] <cdubya> mugzie, the jre
[07:30] <Apostle^> intelikey, yea, i wonder how much they charge for a problem find, estimate whatever you want to call it, maybe even free if you have them do the work
[07:30] <mugzie> ok
[07:30] <tritium> Good night, all
[07:30] <cdubya> later tritium
[07:30] <tritium> see you cdubya
[07:31] <mugzie> wait i dont see a fre sorry if i seem stupid :(
[07:31] <mugzie> jre i meant
[07:31] <intelikey> Apostle^ well this is not an official computer shop.  but we've never charged for diagnosis.    it generates more business if people feel like you are trying to help them...
[07:31] <cdubya> mugzie, yeah, if you click on the link in the wiki there to http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[07:31] <Apostle^> intelikey, yea, this is a local pc shop i'm going to take it to so maybe free
[07:32] <lasindi> Hi all, how do you mount a "Linux LVM" partition? I've been trying with just "mount /dev/hda5 /blah" but it tells me to specify a filesystem.
[07:32] <Apostle^> intelikey, i know bestbuy is $50
[07:32] <cdubya> mugzie, then scroll down to the JRE installer link
[07:32] <mugzie> ok
[07:32] <mugzie> got ya now
[07:32] <intelikey> ok back to my code.  luck with it Apostle^
[07:32] <Apostle^> intelikey, thanks, later
[07:33] <cdubya> mugzie, just follow those wiki docs to the t and you should be good to go.
[07:34] <Centaur5> Is there a way to switch whether the sound goes out the speakers or the headphone jack on a laptop?
[07:35] <mugzie> cduya should i get the rpm self extracting or the.....regular self extracting
[07:35] <charchuck> All right!  Fixed the problem.  Thanks guys.
[07:36] <njdavid> How do I edit my resolutions?
[07:36] <njdavid> I know my card and monitor support 1280x1024
[07:36] <cdubya> mugzie, get the .bin file
[07:36] <njdavid> But it's at 1152x864 now.
[07:36] <mugzie> there both.bin
[07:36] <mugzie> ones rpm tho
[07:37] <bimberi> ubotu tell njdavid about fixres
[07:37] <mugzie> ones rpm.bin
[07:37] <silvalynin> hmm how would I be able to access all of my music that's on my Windows partition?
[07:37] <cdubya> mugzie, download the one that says "Linux self-extracting file"
[07:37] <bimberi> Centaur5: double-click on the volume applet - I have a separate Headphone volume slider
[07:37] <cdubya> silvalynin, mount the partition
[07:38] <bimberi> !mountwindows
[07:38] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:38] <njdavid> bimberi, I've already done that and added it when I reconfigured, it's not available as an option in preferences.
[07:38] <Centaur5> bimberi: Okay, I already checked that.  I guess there probably isn't good enough support for my sound card.
[07:38] <miguelsr> does ubuntu have an internal firewall like windows?
[07:38] <bimberi> njdavid: hmmk
[07:39] <bimberi> Centaur5: do you have the ALSA mixer selected (File -> Change Device)?
[07:39] <Centaur5> bimberi: Yeah, there's just master and pcm
[07:39] <pemdasi> !fixres
[07:39] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:39] <dli> miguelsr, don't worry about it, ubuntu is secure by default, while windows in insecure by default
[07:40] <bimberi> Centaur5: ok, i'm out then sorry :|
[07:40] <silvalynin> bimberi can you tell me how I would go about running diskmounter, i'm a complete linux noob, this is my first time ever using it
[07:40] <intelikey> light weight text and graphical  user friendly.
[07:41] <cdubya> silvalynin, it tells you how on that wiki link he gave earlier
[07:41] <Centaur5> bimberi: Thanks, it's not your fault.  I just read that I should be able to adjust that and I wanted to double check that I was doing it right.
[07:41] <intelikey> in the repos
[07:41] <cdubya> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:41] <silvalynin> "Save this file on your local hard drive"
[07:41] <silvalynin> save the web page?
[07:42] <bimberi> silvalynin: yes
[07:42] <bimberi> silvalynin: then open a terminal, 'cd Desktop'  (or wherever it saved the file) and 'sudo bash diskmounter'
[07:43] <silvalynin> alright i did it, thanks
[07:44] <grte> Hey, can anybody tell me how I can grep a man page?
[07:46] <intelikey> grte via man ?    man /path/to/file
[07:46] <Meshezabeel> Greetings, can anyone tell me if there is something included in Ubuntu that is not included in Edubuntu?
[07:46] <grte> The man file is in gz, though.  I tried grepping it directly and got nothing.
[07:46] <cdubya> better call it a night. g'nite all
[07:46] <intelikey> man can do files as well as the normal man pages
[07:46] <Meshezabeel> g'nite cdubya
[07:46] <grte> Yeah, I get that.
[07:47] <bimberi> grte: man -P cat whatever | grep string
[07:47] <grte> What I'm wondering, though, is how I can grep a man page to show the entries I'm looking for.
[07:47] <bimberi> ?
[07:47] <silvalynin> i can't play mp3's...
[07:47] <bimberi> '-P cat'  is use cat as the pager
[07:48] <intelikey> gzip -v blah | grep string     maybe what you are askinf
[07:48] <tokennrg> or use zcat
[07:48] <bimberi> yes zcat
[07:48] <grte> Okay, I'll give that a try.
[07:48] <silvalynin> what program should i use to play mp3's?
[07:48] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell silvalynin about mp3
[07:49] <bimberi> !mp3
[07:49] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:49] <silvalynin> by default it's trying to use Totem movie player
[07:49] <silvalynin> oo
[07:49] <Madpilot> silvalynin, see the pm the bot just sent you
[07:49] <silvalynin> thanks
[07:49] <whyami> is there a way to convert a Debian system to ubuntu? I tried changing the sources list to Breezy and did an apt-get dist-upgrade. Now some things (like sudo for example) are broken.
[07:50] <det> What is the best way to enable beagle when I log in?
[07:50] <tokennrg> whyami: I've got to think that probably won't work well
[07:50] <whyami> tokennrg: well...it didn't! :-)
[07:51] <Meshezabeel> whyami, back up files you need and wipe your system
[07:51] <whyami> Meshezabeel: then run the install CD?
[07:51] <intelikey> whyami sudo is over rated anyway.   remove -purge it and reinstalle it....
[07:51] <Meshezabeel> whyami yes
[07:51] <mugzie> im still having problems i did exactly what the wiki said and firefox stilll says i dont have java runtime enviorment?
[07:52] <ferronica> whyvas; wilu help me
[07:52] <Madpilot> mugzie, did you follow the "Selecting the default Java version" section of the wiki page?
[07:52] <Meshezabeel> install cd will let you wipe your existing debian partition anyhow
[07:52] <ferronica> whyvas; if u dont hav any probelm???
[07:52] <mugzie> grr no i didnt let me do that
[07:53] <ferronica> whyvas; can i burn CD in ubuntu???
[07:53] <Madpilot> ferronica, of course. Stick a blank CD in, and Ubuntu should popup a window asking you what you want to do with it
[07:54] <intelikey> Meshezabeel unless you are a pretty good hand at linux the install cd wont let you install on a partition with files still on it....
[07:54] <ferronica> whyvas; So there is no need to launch application first???
[07:55] <Madpilot> ferronica, just stick a blank CD in and watch what happens...
[07:55] <intelikey> Madpilot yes.  now what is the ubuntu way to stop it from doing that ?
[07:55] <Meshezabeel> intelikey, there's an option on the CD to "erase existing partition", haven't ever needed it though so I'm not sure
[07:55] <ferronica> Madpilot: If i wanna to launch application???
[07:55] <Madpilot> ferronica & intelikey: just close the popup window and open whatever other burning app you want to use
[07:55] <ferronica> Madpilot: wanna to see options, bcoz in synaptic it shows me installed
[07:55] <Apostle^> how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?
[07:56] <mugzie> ok now in terminal i get there are 3 alternatives which provide java which one do ipick
[07:56] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok let me insert one blank CD ok
[07:56] <Madpilot> mugzie, the one that says "sun" in the name somewhere
[07:56] <Meshezabeel> I am currently using Edubuntu in the lab at the school, but am wondering does Ubuntu also come with KTouch? I'm trying to find app lists on the different distributsions, but they all seem very vague. If someone can direct me to a page that lists all apps that would also be helpful.
[07:56] <intelikey> Madpilot not my question.   i mean make it stop "auto-detecting" things like the insertion of a cd
[07:57] <jake_> is there a howto on modifying the standard initrd?
[07:57] <bimberi> Meshezabeel: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:57] <Madpilot> intelikey, there's a checkbox on the "I've found a blank CD" popup, I think
[07:57] <mugzie> nope no sun in the name i got usr/bin/gij-wrapper4.0  isr/lib/jvm/java-gjc/bin/java or usr/lib/jse/1.4/bin/java
[07:57] <Apostle^> how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?
[07:57] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok i hav inserted one blank CD, but i wanna to make one mp3
[07:58] <Madpilot> mugzie, you want the jse one, I think
[07:58] <ferronica> Madpilot: there is no option to creat Mp3 playback
[07:58] <mugzie> ok thanks
[07:58] <jake_> I figured out how to extract the existing initrd, and made the modifications I want, but can't rebuild it
[07:59] <Madpilot> ferronica, you can get mp3 support in Serpentine to get mp3s onto an audio CD, I think (I have no music in mp3, so I'm not sure...)
[07:59] <intelikey> jake_ man mkcramfs
[07:59] <jake_> thanks intelikey
[07:59] <ferronica> Madpilot: Is it available in synaptic pacakge manager
[07:59] <Meshezabeel> biberi, are these packages all included in the Live CD, or do some have to be downloaded and installed from repositories?
[08:00] <Apostle^> how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?
[08:00] <jake_> it seems to be a cifo archive though
[08:00] <ferronica> Madpilot: Or i hav to install it from outside
[08:00] <Madpilot> ferronica, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerpentineHowTo
[08:01] <bimberi> Meshezabeel: that's everything.  LiveCD only has a selection
[08:01] <Meshezabeel> bimberi, spelled your name wrong above
[08:01] <bimberi> Meshezabeel: i got it eventually :)
[08:01] <Meshezabeel> :)
[08:01] <monsterb> What's command to list details about a drive?
[08:02] <DBO> hdparm /dev/<drive>
[08:02] <pemdasi> monsterb what kind of details?
[08:02] <intelikey> fkisk -l /dev/blah
[08:02] <pemdasi> df -h
[08:02] <Meshezabeel> bimberi, I am looking for the apps that are directly available on the live/desktop CD
[08:02] <fiend> fkisk?
[08:02] <Madpilot> ferronica, just a sec, there's an "adding mp3 support to Serpentine" tutorial somewhere...
[08:02] <pemdasi> if you just want space used/free
[08:02] <pemdasi> on all mounted drives
[08:02] <intelikey> pemdasi hmmm that ould only list fs stats
[08:02] <bimberi> Meshezabeel: yes, unfortunately i don't know where that's listed sorry :|
[08:03] <pemdasi> intelikey yeah, not sure what kind of information they want
[08:03] <monsterb> pemdasi: file sizes and how much space is avail
[08:04] <intelikey> du   df    file    stat     all good commends
[08:04] <Apostle^> how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?
[08:05] <ferronica> Madpilot: Ok i found it
[08:05] <mugzie> grr it still says i dont got it damnit im so mad
[08:05] <coolio> im trying to isntall mythtv and im having a bit of trouble and im sort of a newbie. I read a tutorial and in one of the commands that i have to execute it is this: "modprobe ivtv"
[08:06] <ferronica> Madpilot: i hav just added 193 MB size mp3
[08:06] <ferronica> Madpilot: and it telling me disc capacity exceeded
[08:06] <coolio> But i get an error saying: "Fatal: Module ivtv not found."
[08:06] <coolio> http://s91928265.onlinehome.us/hfamily/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
[08:06] <coolio> that is the tutorial
[08:06] <Meshezabeel> bimberi, ok thanks :)
[08:06] <coolio> i was hoping that someone can tell me why it doesnt work.... :)
[08:06] <Madpilot> ferronica, odd - you did add the mp3 support to Serpentine?
[08:07] <Apostle^> anyone know how to activate putting evolution into system tray?
[08:07] <ferronica> Madpilot: i added nothing
[08:07] <intelikey> 193m mp3  lol  what is it four weeks of music ?
[08:07] <ferronica> Madpilot: just opened it
[08:08] <intelikey> !mp3
[08:08] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:08] <monsterb> !freespace
[08:08] <ubotu> monsterb: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:08] <ferronica> Madpilot: can i download it vis synaptic pacakage manager???
[08:08] <intelikey> monsterb df
[08:08] <mugzie> man i can believe this didnt work im so dang frustrated is there anyway i can use the synaptic to install java runtime enviorment to my firefox?
[08:09] <Madpilot> ferronica, no, you need to edit one bit of Serpentine's settings to get mp3 to burn
[08:09] <Apostle^> anyone know how to activate putting evolution into system tray?
[08:09] <monsterb> intelikey: thx
[08:09] <mugzie> anyone?
[08:10] <intelikey> monsterb no problem.  but it was answered by several when you first asked.
[08:10] <fiend> mugzie, have you search packages.ubuntu.com?
[08:10] <mugzie> no i havent
[08:10] <Madpilot> ferronica, gah, sorry, I'm not thinking now - it's late - AFAIK if you can play mp3 in Ubuntu, you should be able to play them
[08:11] <intelikey> hmmm no festival for ub5.4 ???
[08:11] <Madpilot> burn them, even...
[08:12] <bimberi> !info festival hoary
[08:12] <ubotu> festival: (general multi-lingual speech synthesis system), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.4.3-16 (hoary), Packaged size: 841 kB, Installed size: 2516 kB
[08:13] <bimberi> intelikey: seems it's there
[08:13] <ferronica1> ??????????????????????
[08:13] <Apostle^> anyone know how to activate putting evolution into system tray?
[08:13] <ferronica1> Madpilot: what i hav to ADD in serpetine????????????
[08:14] <ferronica1> Madpilot: to creat mp3 CD
[08:14] <Madpilot> ferronica, can you play mp3s in Ubuntu? If you can, you should be able to burn mp3s into audio w/ Serpentine
[08:14] <ferronica1> Madpilot: YES, i use VLC player tp play
[08:15] <ferronica1> Madpilot: i am able to add mp3 to serpetine but it shpwing me space eceeded
[08:15] <ferronica1> Madpilot: disk capacity exceeded
[08:15] <Madpilot> ferronica1, that I'm not sure about, but you should be able to burn the things, at least
[08:16] <intelikey> bimberi ah yes forgot i had disabled some repos for a forced downgrade....   ;/
[08:16] <bimberi> intelikey: aha :)
[08:17] <Trashcan> :( 168kb/s, 1h15m33s remaining :(
[08:18] <intelikey> one thing about tweeking the whole box... one can forget what they have and haven't changed.....    "except there is nothing i haven't changed...."
[08:18] <aftertaf> bling :)
[08:18] <Trashcan> lol intellikey- nice one
[08:20] <ferronica1> any one here uses to burn mp3
[08:21] <aftertaf> yep, k3b
[08:21] <monsterb> !SETTINGS.DAT
[08:21] <ubotu> monsterb: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:21] <ferronica1> HELP!
[08:22] <Trashcan> ferronica1> any one here uses to burn mp3 <--- was that a sentence?
[08:23] <monsterb> Trashcan: Are u a english teacher? lol
[08:23] <Trashcan> nope, but he's being pushy and didn't even ask a question :o
[08:23] <ferronica1> Trashcan: if u can understand fine
[08:23] <monsterb> I like cheese.
[08:24] <Trashcan> lol
[08:24] <ferronica1> Trashcan: no time to explain whole thing
[08:24] <ferronica1> Trashcan: Do u know???
[08:24] <Trashcan> know WHAT?
[08:24] <ferronica1> Trashcan: to burn Mp3 CD
[08:24] <Trashcan> take time to explain *something*
[08:24] <aftertaf> ferronica1, what is your actual question?
[08:24] <monsterb> ferronical: use k3b to burn mp3s to CD.
[08:25] <aftertaf> ^^ yes
[08:25] <ferronica1> aftertaf: i wanna to creat mp3 CD using serpetine
[08:25] <ferronica1> aftertaf: i hav serpetine installed
[08:25] <aftertaf> never used it. k3b myself...
[08:26] <aftertaf> !serpentine
[08:26] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, aftertaf
[08:26] <ferronica1> aftertaf: dont know why it showing capacity exceeded
[08:26] <aftertaf> before you burn?
[08:26] <aftertaf> how many minutes?
[08:27] <ferronica1> aftertaf: by default sets to 42 miniutes
[08:27] <ferronica1> aftertaf: but my CD is 700Mb which means 80 miniutes
[08:27] <aftertaf> by default? you mean it will only burn 42 mins of audio?
[08:28] <drcode> any one know about video card?
[08:28] <aftertaf> ferronica1, try k3b..... seriously
[08:28] <drcode> I Need to know what is the best
[08:28] <drcode> GIGABYTE nVidia PCX6600GT
[08:28] <drcode> 128MB DDR3, MEM CLOCK 1000, TV, 128BIT, DVI, SILENT PIPE
[08:28] <drcode> and GIGABYTE nVidia PCX6600GT
[08:28] <drcode> 256MB DDR2, MEM CLOCK 1000, TV, 128BIT, DVI, HDTV
[08:28] <monsterb> ferronical: how many mp3s are u trying to burn?
[08:28] <aftertaf> ferronica1, its like nero...as easy to use
[08:28] <ferronica1> aftertaf: what abot gnome baker
[08:28] <aftertaf> monsterb, it only proposes 42mins of burning....
[08:29] <aftertaf> ferronica1, the only soft to burn cds that i've managed to get working easily is k3b. so i stick withn it.
[08:29] <ferronica1> aftertaf: hav u ever used it
[08:29] <ferronica1> aftertaf: Gnome baker
[08:30] <aftertaf> no never
[08:30] <killapop> ferronica1: gnomebaker is very good
[08:30] <monsterb> aftertaf: on ferronical computer or all? mine goes up to 90min
[08:30] <Madpilot> ferronica1, in Serpentine, there should be a dropdown to chose the length/size of the CD you're using
[08:30] <aftertaf> monsterb, on ferronica1 's pc...
[08:30] <killapop> ferronica1: i used both k3b and gnomebaker and they're both good.
[08:30] <monsterb> aftertaf: oh
[08:30] <user429> since you're talking about CD burning, I have a question when you've solved the current issue, if no one minds
[08:31] <aftertaf> lol
[08:31] <aftertaf> ask.
[08:31] <DBO> user429, go ahead and ask now
[08:31] <aftertaf> complications help make things easier to mess up/ er i mean understand...
[08:31] <alex_joni> is there a channel for developers ?
[08:31] <ferronica1> aftertaf: can i send u one screen shot???
[08:31] <user429> I just tried to burn a CD with Serpentine, after downloading the right packages to get it to read Mp3 files...
[08:31] <monsterb> aftertaf ferronical : I agree, k3b would be the best - just like nero
[08:31] <user429> it only burned 3 audio tracks, and finished
[08:31] <aftertaf> ferronica1, ive never used the others..... did you see what Madpilot said?
[08:31] <Madpilot> alex_joni, #ubuntu-devel
[08:32] <aftertaf> user429, argh!!!!!!! k3b :] 
[08:32] <user429> the CD plays fine... it doesn't seem to be a bad burn... but it only contains 3 tracks
[08:32] <user429> of 16
[08:32] <alex_joni> Madpilot: thx
[08:32] <ferronica1> in Serpentine, there should be a dropdown to chose the length/size of the CD you're using
[08:32] <user429> so I should just get k3b, eh? I used it once from some other LiveCD Dist.
[08:33] <DBO> user429, k3b is the best, I like it better than nero
[08:33] <wacko> is it possible for a cd burner to break if you burn data for a few hours?
[08:33] <ferronica1> Madpilot: can i send u screen shot
[08:33] <monsterb> user429: k3b would b my choice
[08:33] <user429> wacko: I would hope not
[08:34] <Madpilot> ferronica1, hmm, what of?
[08:34] <DBO> wacko, its possible for it to break doing just about anything...  its not likely though
[08:34] <wacko> k3b is my choice as well
[08:34] <ferronica1> Madpilot: Serpetine window
[08:34] <wacko> o well i am burning 160 gigs of data tonight and hope i dont break my burner
[08:34] <wacko> dvds
[08:34] <aftertaf> wacko, thats a BIG DVD dude ;)
[08:34] <ferronica1> Madpilot: where it showing me error
[08:34] <user429> thanks. I'm sort of still a linux n00b, so I was just trying to make do with whatever was lying around in Ubuntu
[08:34] <noiesmo> k3b rocks my world best burning app I reakon
[08:34] <wacko> aftertaf: it is many dvds lol
[08:34] <monsterb> Madpilot: lol
[08:35] <wacko> wish i had double layer discs
[08:35] <ferronica1> Madpilot: disc usge: 42 miniutes and 21 seconds overlapping
[08:35] <aftertaf> user429, apt-get k3b :)
[08:35] <aftertaf> ferronica1, did you find the size of CD dialog?
[08:35] <DBO> wacko, you will right until you look how long they take to burn
[08:35] <ferronica1> Madpilot: disc cpacity: 80 miniutes
[08:35] <monsterb> ferronical: do u have a blank cd in drive?
[08:35] <wacko> DBO: double layer takes longer?
[08:36] <DBO> wacko, much
[08:36] <Madpilot> ferronica1, so you've got 120 minutes of music, or what?
[08:36] <aftertaf> never tried double yet....
[08:36] <ferronica1> aftertaf: u mean disc capacity
[08:36] <aftertaf> ferronica1, yup
[08:36] <wacko> DBO: because more data or because the technology is not up to par yet?
[08:36] <user429> aftertaf: am I a loser for using synaptic? hehe
[08:37] <aftertaf> user429, heheh yes.
[08:37] <ferronica1> Madpilot: it showing me 42 miniutes and 21 seconds overlapping
[08:37] <aftertaf> user429, certainly not ;P
[08:37] <DBO> wacko, burning more data = longer burn time, and the newer format also has slower burn rates
[08:37] <monsterb> ferronical: im burning 78min worth of music right now on Serpentine ... it works good.
[08:38] <wacko> just got done burning all my music and it was 9 dvds lol
[08:38] <metatag> cat: hi
[08:38] <ferronica1> Madpilot: and just below disc capacity exceeded!
[08:38] <cat> hey is there any automounting bash script for example to automount a windows hd so i can listen to music
[08:38] <cat> hey metatag
[08:38] <Madpilot> ferronica1, all I can think if is that there's something wrong with your mp3s...
[08:38] <wacko> cat: put it in fstab
[08:38] <DBO> !tell cat about fstab
[08:39] <ferronica1> Madpilot: accept one file
[08:39] <metatag> aeon17x: hi
[08:40] <ferronica1> Madpilot: accept it, its a screen shot
[08:40] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[08:40] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:40] <Madpilot> ferronica1, use imageshack - I do not accept files thru IRC
[08:41] <monsterb> Madpilot: beware of screenshots - lol
[08:41] <wacko> lol
[08:41] <wacko> ferronica1: give us a link
[08:41] <metatag> wacko: hi
[08:41] <wacko> metatag: yes?
[08:41] <mud2005> presario 5000z laptop:I had to use acpi=off to get my built in wireless card to work but now I cant see how much battery is left??? and apm isnt supported, what do I do?
[08:41] <metatag> wacko: how are you?
[08:41] <wacko> good!!!!!!!!!!
[08:41] <ferronica> Madpilot: r u there
[08:41] <user429> dang, 5k mhz.... awesome
[08:42] <user429> = )
[08:42] <wacko> burning my 160 gigs of data to many dvds tonight
[08:42] <Madpilot> ferronica, pastebin (or imageshack...) the screenie, then post the URL here
[08:42] <wacko> my storage hard drive is failing
[08:42] <metatag> wacko: why is it failing?
[08:43] <wacko> metatag: i dont know it sucks bady i am getting input/output errors and it mounted itself as read only
[08:43] <ferronica> Madpilot: what is imageshack
[08:44] <wacko> ferronica: a website to upload images
[08:44] <Madpilot> imageshack.us - a free image hosting service.
[08:44] <metatag> wacko: ohh why don't you see a doctor?
[08:44] <monsterb> wacko: Are u going to scrap it or try to repair it with a low-level format?
[08:44] <wacko> metatag: your very funny
[08:44] <metatag> wacko: thanks
[08:44] <wacko> ferronica: upload your screenshot here http://www.desktoprating.com/
[08:45] <user429> wacko, GRC.com's SpinRite is awesome
[08:45] <me2win> Madpilot: on packages.ubuntu.com, do i need to download all the dependencies of something, or if is there a "all together" kind of thing?
[08:45] <Madpilot> me2win, no idea - I think you'll have to download everything individually. You can't just let apt-get/Synaptic sort all that out?
[08:45] <metatag> me2win: do you use synaptic?
[08:45] <user429> peaces
[08:46] <metatag> btw don't you people find adept buggy.. sort of?
[08:46] <scheuri> hi all
[08:46] <wacko> user i dont need to recover files i am copying them now all  iam going to fsck the disc and try to repair it after
[08:46] <monsterb> wacko: You may need a Restraining Order. metatagg like you a little too much.
[08:46] <aftertaf> metatag, tell mornfall about it on kubuntu. hes the dev ;)
[08:46] <me2win> Madpilot: well, my brother is having problems with his repos, and I wanted to try and SSH in to help him sort them out because the rrors he is getting are really wierd. But Since the repos are screwed, he would need to get the pkg from the website
[08:46] <wacko> monsterb: i dont see why he would
[08:47] <aftertaf> wacko, my /tmp-/var partition does that sometimes. spooky :/
[08:47] <metatag> aftertaf: ok
[08:47] <Madpilot> me2win, sounds like it might be easier to just rebuild his sources.list
[08:47] <Madpilot> me2win, to use different repos
[08:47] <me2win> Madpilot: we have several times over, still something is wrong
[08:47] <wacko> aftertaf: your temp has input/output errors sometimes?
[08:47] <me2win> Madpilot: like i said, its something really wierd going on
[08:47] <monsterb> wacko: what filesystem were u using?
[08:48] <wacko> monsterb: ext3
[08:48] <ferronica> Madpilot: where is the option to upload
[08:48] <aftertaf> wacko, yep
[08:48] <aftertaf> wacko, separate partition.
[08:48] <Madpilot> ferronica, from what?
[08:48] <wacko> aftertaf: you partion must be failing as well
[08:48] <chripher> does somebody know how to get a g400 to work in ubuntu
[08:48] <aftertaf> happy happy joy joy :(
[08:49] <aftertaf> chripher, with ppc install cd?
[08:49] <scheuri> chripher: you mean a geforce? Nvidia?
[08:49] <chripher> no Matrox
[08:49] <scheuri> uh? g400 is a ppc?
[08:49] <scheuri> ah
[08:49] <ferronica> Madpilot: image shack
[08:49] <chripher> no ppc
[08:49] <chripher> inte p3
[08:49] <chripher> intel
[08:49] <ferronica> Madpilot: i am sending u file accept it please
[08:49] <Madpilot> ferronica, there should be a button that says "Upload Image" or something like that
[08:49] <scheuri> chripher: your xserver is not running then?
[08:50] <ferronica> Madpilot: that one is tidious
[08:50] <chripher> no I am running on default xorg.conf now
[08:50] <chamo> what's the best linux software (except OOo) for creating Chart ???
[08:50] <me2win> Kspread?
[08:51] <chripher> the only think I have done is tweaked the refresh rake to 120 but I only get 75  anyway
[08:51] <Madpilot> ferronica, I don't accept files via IRC, ever. Sorry.
[08:51] <scheuri> chripher: okay..are you familiar with editing xorg.conf on CLI?
[08:51] <chamo> hnmmm
[08:51] <chripher> no not much I guess CLI is a editor
[08:51] <ferronica> Madpilot: why????????????/////
[08:51] <scheuri> !cli
[08:51] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:52] <Madpilot> ferronica, because blocking dcc & such makes life much simpler
[08:52] <chripher> with nano then or ?
[08:52] <scheuri> chripher: yes...nano, vi, vim...whatever suits you
[08:52] <chripher> yes it would be nice to learn some of them
[08:52] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok forget it, tell me what others talking abot k3b
[08:53] <chripher> I got het package fram matrox homepage but the how do not work
[08:53] <scheuri> chripher: well...I can't teach you here, sorry...it is kinda difficult via IRC, but we may find out what driver your xserver is using
[08:53] <scheuri> chripher: ah, I see...that packaged is supposed to? contain a driver? do something special?
[08:54] <chripher> scheuri: when I write "sudo sh install.sh" it says that some dir is not found
[08:55] <scheuri> chripher: what dir?
[08:55] <ferronica> what other guys talking about cd burner software
[08:55] <chripher> I don not rember now but if I try can I go back with "sudo sh install.sh restore" ?
[08:55] <Meshezabeel> you guys still using dapper drake?
[08:56] <Madpilot> ferronica, Applications->Add Applications, search for k3b or Gnomebaker there
[08:56] <chripher> no I use breezy I got the wrong dist
[08:57] <scheuri> chripher: sorry, I can't help you there...
[08:57] <chripher> scheuri: just a moment
[08:57] <scheuri> Meshezabeel: what do you mean by STILL using dapper?
[08:58] <ferronica> Madpilot: i did already
[08:59] <ferronica> Madpilot: track is toooo large to fit in the remainig space on the CD
[08:59] <ferronica> Madpilot: what dose that mean
[09:00] <Madpilot> ferronica, if that's with k3b, then the problem is your mp3 files...
[09:00] <monsterb> Meshezabeel: yes - the best beta i ever used.
[09:00] <user429> I figured out my problem with Serpentine... or rather that my problem was not with S...
[09:00] <ferronica> Madpilot: right now i am using gnomebaker
[09:00] <Madpilot> ferronica, given that you
[09:01] <user429> Thanks to k3b's debug output option when an error occurs, I found that my crappy RW drive on this machine had an underrun
[09:01] <Madpilot> 've gotten the same error w/ two burning apps, I'd say there's something messed up with your mp3s...
[09:01] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok
[09:01] <ferronica> Madpilot: but all of them are in mp3 format
[09:02] <monsterb> ferronica: do u even have a burner?
[09:02] <ferronica> monsterb: yes one CD-RW and another is DVD-RW
[09:03] <monsterb> ferronica: rip some fresh mp3s from a CD - and try it again - see if it works
[09:05] <chripher> scheuri: Can I send you the error msg in private
[09:05] <ferronica> monsterb: hey in GNOMEBAKER which option to select to creat mp3
[09:05] <scheuri> chripher: feel free
[09:05] <wacko> Chri[s] : we are not good enough to see the error?
[09:05] <scheuri> ;)
[09:06] <wacko> chripher: *
[09:06] <monsterb> ferronica: i don't have GBAker installed.
[09:06] <ferronica> monsterb: what u use???
[09:06] <monsterb> k3b
[09:06] <ferronica> monsterb: i wanna to creat mp3 CD not audio CD
[09:07] <chripher> wacko: what ?
[09:07] <monsterb> ferronica: make a data cd
[09:07] <wacko> chripher: not much
[09:07] <ferronica> monsterb: to play back in mp3 player
[09:08] <ferronica> monsterb: if i created data my player wont detect it
[09:08] <monsterb> ferronica: data cd will do the trick
[09:08] <chripher> wacko: do you know much about how to install gfx-cards
[09:08] <scheuri> chripher: you can also sent the error message to all...:)
[09:08] <wacko> chripher: in windows i can
[09:08] <ferronica> monsterb: in creating data no problem
[09:09] <Madpilot> chripher, if it's a long error message, use pastebin and just post the pastebin URL here
[09:09] <chripher> wacko: me to ... but not ubuntu
[09:09] <ferronica> monsterb: but there is no such option to creat mp3
[09:09] <wacko> chripher: thats is a good reason you should not run linux
[09:09] <chripher> Madpilot: ehm
[09:09] <aftertaf> ferronica, get k3b and try
[09:09] <ferronica> monsterb: how to install it tell mw
[09:09] <chripher> wacko: how should I learn then
[09:09] <monsterb> ferronica: it should be the same thing - a data cd with mp3s on it.
[09:09] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install k3b*
[09:10] <wacko> chripher: pull out your windows install cd and put it in your cd drive and reboot j/k
[09:10] <chripher> Madpilot: how to pastebin
[09:10] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell chripher about pastebin
[09:10] <ferronica> monsterb: if i creat data CD, i can only able to play in computer
[09:11] <aftertaf> chripher, what gfx card model?
[09:11] <wacko> whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[09:11] <scheuri> wacko: that suggestion was off limits in my opinion...there are surely things which are easier in windows than linux, but still...he asked for help
[09:11] <coolio> how do i login as root?
[09:11] <wacko> scheuri: i was just kidding did not mean to be an ass
[09:11] <coolio> in console
[09:11] <ferronica> monsterb: So there is no option to creat Mp3
[09:11] <chripher> aha
[09:11] <scheuri> wacko: the desktop...on the CD...ubuntu comes with gnome and kubuntu with KDE
[09:11] <monsterb> ferronica: have u tried it?   Thats how I make mine.  I put about 200 mp3s on a data CD - and it plays on my home tv/dvd player.
[09:12] <scheuri> wacko: but you can have both desktops on both "versions", you just need to download the respective other desktop
[09:12] <wacko> scheuri: thank you i run gentoo so i would not no and i dont know why i am in here just good chat i guess
[09:12] <ferronica> monsterb: dose it worked
[09:12] <aftertaf> ferronica, try with k3b... if that doesnt work then the problem  is elsewhere
[09:12] <monsterb> ferronica: yes
[09:12] <scheuri> wacko: don't worry...I didnt want to offend you...but it somehow bothers me when people answer like "take windows"
[09:13] <ferronica> monsterb: if i use data CD not gettin any problem even serpetine
[09:13] <aftertaf> argh!!!!
[09:13] <chripher> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d13824
[09:13] <wacko> scheuri: it should bother you  i dont even like the sound of windows
[09:13] <scheuri> :)
[09:14] <monsterb> ferronica: serpentine is for audio - it converts mp3 to wav to cd --- use k3b to make a mp3 data CD.
[09:14] <aftertaf> ferronica, please try k3b, just to make us happy.......
[09:14] <ferronica> monsterb: and in GNOMEBAKER????
[09:14] <ferronica> monsterb: ok okay
[09:15] <ferronica> monsterb: how to install k3b
[09:15] <scheuri> chripher: I guess (emphasis on guess) that this package wants to install on another X-server, not the one that is shipped with breezy badger
[09:15] <aftertaf> type in console: sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:15] <ferronica> ok
[09:15] <wacko> k3b is great hope they make a windows version some day so i can install it on all the computers i work on for people
[09:15] <aftertaf> ferronica, ^^^^^
[09:15] <wacko> heck with nero
[09:15] <scheuri> chripher: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/MatroxParhelia
[09:16] <ferronica> monsterb: should i uninstall the GNOMEBAKER
[09:16] <wacko> anyone try the game enemy territory?
[09:16] <monsterb> ferronica: use Synaptic to install k3b - - try out Gnomebaker, u might llike it.
[09:17] <scheuri> wacko: a while ago, yes...works on linux and windows quite well (taken that linux has appropriate 3d-driver for graphics
[09:17] <wacko> scheuri: it is very fun game did you ever try to get the joystick working?
[09:18] <scheuri> wacko: no, sorry...I dont have one...was never an option for me
[09:18] <chripher> aftertaf: it is Matrox Milenium G400 Max
[09:18] <chripher> not parhelia
[09:18] <starkes> does anyone out there know if there is a way to get synaptic, or apt i guess, to rebuild its list of packages you have? mine isnt showing all my installed packages, its over 1000 short...
[09:18] <monsterb> ferronica: Gnomebaker and k3b are pretty darn close. Try both out, see what u like better.
[09:18] <wacko> first person shooters are better with mouse and keyboard but i wanted to give the joystick a try wit hthis game
[09:19] <scheuri> chripher: okay, true...but your one should be supported by the driver that already comes with badger (and the installed xserver)
[09:22] <PrimoTurbo> What do you guys like more human or tango?
[09:22] <PrimoTurbo> icon themes
[09:24] <sanych_laptop> Whats is the URL for sync clock in 5.10 - ubuntulinux.org or .com?
[09:25] <Old> How do i create a user account that has access to 3 specefic maps, and the user will "spawn" in this directory aswell, the home dir for that user would be /home/ , the user should only have access to /var/www, home/ftp, /home/cz
[09:26] <llama-duck> hi folks...
[09:26] <ferronica> monsterb: its big software i think???
[09:27] <ferronica> monsterb: it took 10 miniutes to download from termianl
[09:27] <llama-duck> has anyone else upgraded ther kernel and can't find the kernel headers ?
[09:27] <monsterb> ferronica: good luck
[09:28] <ferronica> monsterb: listen listen
[09:28] <llama-duck> I moved to 2.6.12-11-686, and there's no headers package :'(
[09:28] <ferronica> monsterb: writer speed verification-K3b
[09:29] <ferronica> monsterb: CD-RW writing speed = 99x
[09:29] <ferronica> monsterb: DVD-RW writing speed = 48x
[09:29] <aftertaf> 99x ?
[09:29] <aftertaf> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[09:30] <ferronica> aftertaf: so high lol
[09:30] <ferronica> aftertaf: so high lol
[09:30] <aftertaf> suspects a bork somewhere
[09:31] <ferronica> aftertaf: what???
[09:31] <scheuri> llama-duck: is your linux-header not listed at a "aptitude search linux-headers"?
[09:31] <ferronica> aftertaf: what???
[09:32] <ferronica> aftertaf: there is option to increase and decrease writing speed
[09:32] <Chri[s] > select a writing speed
[09:33] <ferronica> Chris[s] : how much for cd-rw
[09:33] <ferronica> Chris[s] : how much for cd-rw = 52x
[09:34] <chripher> scheuri: you still here
[09:34] <mud2005> presario 5000z laptop:I had to use acpi=off to get my built in wireless card to work but now I cant see how much battery is left??? and apm isnt supported, what do I do?
[09:35] <llama-duck> scheuri: no - it's not listed
[09:35] <scheuri> chripher: yes
[09:35] <scheuri> llama-duck: that is really odd...are you on breezy badger or dapper drake?
[09:36] <chripher> scheuri: do you know if DRI also is in breezy
[09:36] <llama-duck> badger
[09:36] <scheuri> chripher: it surely should...you might to have install it actually...not sure
[09:36] <scheuri> llama-duck: oh..that might be the reason...maybe they follow in a few days
[09:37] <llama-duck> II have 2.6.12-11-686  and the latest version listed is linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686
[09:37] <chripher> scheuri: how to check tha out ?
[09:37] <llama-duck> scheuri: gah!
[09:37] <scheuri> chripher: good question...you just crossed the point where I am lost as well...:)
[09:37] <chripher> scheuri: btw some more easy question how to play mp3 in a good sleak player
[09:38] <scheuri> llama-duck: and that does not work with these two?
[09:38] <schizoschaf> hi
[09:38] <scheuri> chripher: well, I use amarok or xmms...but there are many others...
[09:38] <schizoschaf> FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition3: Partition ends in the final partial cyli
[09:38] <schizoschaf> cfdisk says this ^^ and doesn't start
[09:38] <llama-duck> it works, but I can't compile a vmware module...
[09:38] <schizoschaf> anyone has an idea
[09:38] <chripher> scheuri: is there any one like winamp
[09:38] <llama-duck> same old story I guess
[09:38] <schizoschaf> ?
[09:38] <scheuri> chripher: I guess xmms is nearest to winamp
[09:39] <chripher> scheuri: and then I mean the old one
[09:39] <Chri[s] > how come i cant make an icon to lauch 'wine ./wine/drive_c/Program Files/PokerStars/PokerStars.exe' ?
[09:39] <scheuri> llama-duck: aaahh...vmware...well...thanks for the tip...wont upgrade my badger today..;)..
[09:39] <Old> How do i create a user account that has access to 3 specefic maps, and the user will "spawn" in this directory aswell, the home dir for that user would be /home/ , the user should only have access to /var/www, home/ftp, /home/cz
[09:39] <DBO> llama-duck, isnt the newest version of linux-image-686 2.6.12.16, which doesn have a header package
[09:39] <chripher> scheuri:  is xmms package name can I use apt-get
[09:40] <aftertaf> yes.
[09:40] <scheuri> chripher: yes, but if you are not sure, try a "aptitude search xmms" first, it will list everything with xmms in their name
[09:40] <aftertaf> in doubt, try apt-cache search [package] 
[09:40] <aftertaf> hehe
[09:40] <llama-duck> DBO: it might be the newest, but I have 2.6.12-10-686
[09:40] <scheuri> :)
[09:41] <DBO> llama-duck, try sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 linux-headers-686
[09:41] <chripher> scheuri: what is command fore search
[09:41] <Chri[s] > what is the difference between 386 and 686
[09:42] <scheuri> chripher: which command?
[09:42] <chripher> Chri[s] : good question
[09:42] <aftertaf> optimised kernel.
[09:42] <DBO> Chri[s] , a 686 kernel takes advantage of instruction sets that 386 wont
[09:42] <aftertaf> one for pentium compatible and up, one for P3/p4
[09:42] <shadukan> hi again
[09:43] <shadukan> after long time
[09:43] <chripher> scheuri: fore seraching for package
[09:43] <Old> Anyone ?
[09:43] <Old> How do i create a user account that has access to 3 specefic maps, and the user will "spawn" in this directory aswell, the home dir for that user would be /home/ , the user should only have access to /var/www, home/ftp, /home/cz
[09:43] <scheuri> chripher: aptitude search [name] 
[09:44] <chripher> scheuri: ah thanks
[09:44] <scheuri> chripher: welcome
[09:45] <chripher> scheuri: how come I can not see smb's when I browse my Desktop but they are there ?
[09:45] <scheuri> chripher: smbs?
[09:45] <eso3a> hyfkruykuylkdyj
[09:45] <DBO> samba shares?
[09:45] <chripher> scheuri: windows share's
[09:46] <eso3a> yes yes you fuck tu madre
[09:46] <eso3a> fuch the mother
[09:46] <eso3a> fuck fuck fuck
[09:46] <metatag> hi eso3a
[09:46] <metatag> eso3a: how are you?
[09:46] <eso3a> hi tatag
[09:46] <eso3a> im from spain
[09:46] <eso3a> you?
[09:47] <metatag> eso3a: whats up pal? am from mauritius
[09:47] <eso3a> morocco??
[09:47] <scheuri> chripher: many reasons possible actually...
[09:47] <aftertaf> !ops
[09:47] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[09:47] <scheuri> chripher: best thing is to address the smb directly (including the name of share within address)
[09:47] <metatag> eso3a: no mauriitus.. small tropical island in indian ocean
[09:47] <benplaut> aftertaf: no ops at this time of night :P
[09:48] <eso3a> speak spanish tatag??
[09:48] <DBO> benplaut, naw, they just are asleep
[09:48] <metatag> eso3a: no.. but I can speak hindi
[09:48] <metatag> eso3a: namaste
[09:48] <eso3a> llevas plumas y fumas la pipa d la paz??
[09:49] <jmhodges> hey, could someone help me debug a sound issue? it was all working fine before i rebooted.. this is in dapper
[09:49] <DBO> jmhodges, whats the deal?
[09:49] <eso3a> fuck the mother tatag
[09:49] <metatag> eso3a: smoking pipes?
[09:49] <chripher> scheuri: can not paly any file
[09:49] <jmhodges> mpg123 nor rhythmbox nor totem-xine are shoving any music to my speakers
[09:49] <eso3a> yes yes chocolat
[09:49] <jmhodges> so its not a gstreamer issue
[09:49] <aftertaf> eso3a, watch your language. this is a public channel.
[09:49] <aftertaf> please...
[09:49] <metatag> eso3a: hehe you are funny...
[09:49] <scheuri> chripher: well...gimme a second
[09:49] <chripher> scheuri: bad codec says totem and xmms says nothing
[09:49] <jmhodges> im seeing that snd_ac97_codec is being used by snd_emu10k1 and snd_via82xx
[09:50] <metatag> aftertaf: did you ban him?
[09:50] <jmhodges> and i know that i have a  sound blaster card (i.e. snd_emu10k1)
[09:50] <scheuri> chripher: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for mp3
[09:50] <aftertaf> lol no
[09:50] <aftertaf> me not op.
[09:50] <jmhodges> but i'm not sure if an rmmod snd_via82xx is going to solve this
[09:50] <nalioth_zZz> aftertaf: ?
[09:50] <aftertaf> indeed nalioth_zZz  :)
[09:50] <aftertaf> hi
[09:50] <chripher> scheuri: I hade to copy to desktop to be able to play
[09:50] <jmhodges> DBO, thats the problem
[09:50] <jmhodges> heh
[09:50] <aftertaf> howdy even :] 
[09:50] <DBO> jmhodges, did you just perform the upgrade?
[09:50] <scheuri> chripher: ...oh?
[09:51] <chripher> can not play through samba/windows share
[09:51] <jmhodges> DBO, nah, i did it a couple of reboots ago
[09:51] <jmhodges> DBO, it was working fine until the last reboot it seems
[09:51] <DBO> jmhodges, lets test and see if any sound works first "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"
[09:51] <jmhodges> iirc, there was an alsa update
[09:51] <aftertaf> yeah :)
[09:51] <DBO> jmhodges, you should get whitenoise
[09:51] <chripher> scheuri: bad thing I got all music on my windows server
[09:51] <jmhodges> DBO, yeah, no whitenoise
[09:52] <czr> cat /proc/kcore > /dev/dsp is much more fun btw ;-)
[09:52] <jmhodges> the speaker is plugged straight into the snd_emu10k1 card
[09:52] <jmhodges> haha
[09:52] <chripher> scheuri: nice talking to you
[09:52] <jmhodges> it works on /dev/dsp1
[09:52] <scheuri> chripher: welcome
[09:52] <chripher> scheuri: for how long have you run Ubuntu ?
[09:52] <czr> was my first audio program back some years ago. to open 44kHz 16b stereo and put /proc/kcore there
[09:52] <jmhodges> and shocked the hell out of me when it did
[09:52] <czr> it was an interesting experience
[09:52] <DBO> jmhodges, ok, well then OSS is working
[09:52] <jmhodges> yep, seems like it
[09:52] <scheuri> chripher: nearly a year...mostly debian though
[09:52] <DBO> jmhodges, try getting one of your audio apps to use OSS and see if you get that to work
[09:53] <czr> jmhodges, for some reason the module load order is now different and your mobo integrated via82xx is loaded first hence it gets the first dsp-dev
[09:53] <chripher> scheuri: is dabber better then badger
[09:53] <jmhodges> czr, yep, thats what it sounds like
[09:53] <czr> is there a nice way to disable some specific module from loading in ubuntu?
[09:53] <czr> other than renaming the module .ko file which would be a kludge
[09:53] <DBO> you can blacklist modules
[09:53] <jmhodges> man, i remember there was one..
[09:53] <czr> how?
[09:53] <jmhodges> its kludgy
[09:53] <jmhodges> i haven thad to do it since i rana source based distro
[09:54] <DBO> !blacklist
[09:54] <czr> disabling ivp6 for one would be nice
[09:54] <scheuri> chripher: it will be surely newer...
[09:54] <jmhodges> /etc/modprobe/blacklist
[09:54] <czr> I only have /etc/modprobe.d/
[09:54] <DBO> yeah, appearantly ubotu now sends !command to /msg instead of to channel
[09:54] <czr> no blacklist there
[09:54] <jmhodges> thats odd
[09:54] <jmhodges> i definitely have one here
[09:54] <DBO> czr, just make it
[09:54] <czr> modprobe or under modprobe.d?
[09:55] <czr> where is this documented?
[09:55] <DBO> !tell czr about blacklist
[09:55] <czr> and blacklist is name of modules one per line that are not allowed to be loaded?
[09:55] <jmhodges> i just found it by pocking around my /etc heh
[09:55] <jmhodges> and its definitely modprobe.d on this machine
[09:55] <stram> FUCKING COCK SUCKER
[09:55] <stram> FUCKING BRUNNER
[09:55] <czr> thanks dbo
[09:55] <jmhodges> hmmm
[09:55] <jmhodges> weird
[09:56] <jmhodges> there is a symlink called "blacklist-oss"
[09:56] <DBO> jmhodges, that would be due to ubuntu being based off sid
[09:56] <eggzeck> maybe he did it in the wrong channel?
[09:56] <jmhodges> but its apparently not being used
[09:56] <DBO> (the modprobe.d thing)
[09:56] <jmhodges> ah there.
[09:56] <jmhodges> DBO, yeah?
[09:56] <jmhodges> meaning that this is not the proper way of doing things now?
[09:57] <DBO> no, it is the proper way, I was just explaining why its in /etc/modprobe.d instead of /etc/hotplug
[09:57] <jmhodges> ahhhh ok
[09:57] <DBO> sarge has it in the latter, sid uses the former
[09:57] <jmhodges> weird
[09:58] <jmhodges> theres a call in modprobe.d/alsa-base that cgoes like this:  options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
[09:58] <jmhodges> thats the weird thing
[09:58] <jmhodges> no mention of snd_emu10k1
[09:58] <jmhodges> wait
[09:58] <jmhodges> yes there is above it.. .an install command
[09:58] <jmhodges> wtf
[09:58] <Kismet> Hi All!
[09:59] <chripher> scheuri: what is newest firefox ver ?
[09:59] <scheuri> chripher: as far as I know it is 1.5.0.3...
[10:00] <chripher> scheuri: but why does it say I got the newest then when firefox says 1.0.8
[10:00] <DBO> breezy = 1.0.7, dapper = 1.5.0.3, mozilla stable = 1.5.0.3, mozilla trunk = 2.0alpha
[10:00] <Kismet> All the time that I enable dri + fglrx or dri + radeon on my X.org configuration with Dapper the machine hang up... I think thare is a bug with the kernel...
[10:00] <Kismet> ...any idea?
[10:00] <DBO> chripher, yeah, you are on breezy, thats the latest version for breezy
[10:01] <chripher> DBO: can't I have 1.5 on breezy
[10:01] <chripher> blh
[10:01] <DBO> !tell chripher about ff1.5
[10:01] <scheuri> chripher: well, there are different releases...one is 1.0.x and one is 1.5.x
[10:01] <DBO> Kismet, running xgl?
[10:01] <chripher> how to upgrade to dapper ?
[10:01] <crazy_penguin> chipher: modify the sources.list
[10:02] <DBO> !tell chripher about upgrade
[10:02] <crazy_penguin> were it says breezy write dapper
[10:02] <scheuri> chripher: I recommend to wait another month, dapper is still beta but will be released in June
[10:02] <scarn> u can update over the net aswell
[10:03] <scarn> but i would wait for the release
[10:03] <scheuri> chripher: firefox 1.0.8 and 1.5.0.3 are both secure on their leve, 1.0.8 just has some features less...
[10:04] <sanych_laptop> Guys, where I can find a list of services which are launched on startup?
[10:04] <sanych_laptop> and how can I edit that list?
[10:04] <DBO> sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[10:04] <chripher> DBO: High tech can someone just give me the commands one by one
[10:04] <DBO> sudo sysv-rc-conf
[10:05] <sanych_laptop> DBO, thanks!
[10:05] <chripher> that page says it is not recomanded to do that and even then they post a 2 page how to
[10:06] <DBO> chripher, "cd && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | sed 's/breezy/dapper/g' > sources.list"
[10:06] <DBO> chripher, then "sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak && sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:07] <deep_> Hey there. :)
[10:07] <DBO> chripher, then "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and make sure there is text in there
[10:07] <DBO> hi deep_
[10:09] <chripher> DBO:  thanks done all now but what text line ?
[10:09] <deep_> I need some help about Quake 3. I need the version >1.16, which dousent exist anymore. And when i try to emulate, it sais something about OpenGL.. something.
[10:09] <DBO> chripher, when you do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" does any text get printed to your terminal?
[10:09] <deep_> ( i have the 1.16 in windows )
[10:09] <DBO> (probably a bit long file)_
[10:10] <DBO> deep_, quake3 has a native installer I believe
[10:10] <chripher> !pastebin
[10:10] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:10] <deep_> Yeah, version 1.32.
[10:10] <deep_> Not what im looking for. : /
[10:12] <DBO> deep_, well then I guess you need to be a little more specific =)  my crystal ball is quite broke
[10:12] <chripher> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d13825
[10:12] <DBO> chripher, now just do a "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:13] <deep_> DBO: Okay. Ill  Wine-install the quake i have, and then when i start it will give me an errormessage, ill send that. ^^
[10:13] <chripher> DBO:  is that all ? and what about the old and duplicates ?
[10:13] <cion> hey all
[10:14] <cion> I need to reap a website into my hard disk
[10:14] <raf> could someone help me on my soudcard?
[10:14] <cion> anyone can help me to do that?
[10:14] <philosophus> cion, try wget
[10:14] <DBO> chripher, apt takes care of all that for you, but be warned, a dist upgrade takes a looooong time
[10:14] <cion> philosophus it's a command u talking bout? (sorry im kinda noob)
[10:14] <chripher> I got time I got no jobb at the moment hehe
[10:15] <scheuri> chripher: If you really want to upgrade to dapper I recommend you to use aptitude instead of apt-get
[10:15] <philosophus> cion, yes. Do you know how to use the command line?
[10:15] <DBO> scheuri, why?  aptitude is just a frontend for apt-get
[10:15] <DBO> which is just a frontend in turn for dpkg...
[10:15] <scheuri> DBO: yes, sort of...but it takes care of dependencies better
[10:15] <cion> terminal I lnow, what are the commands to reap an entire website O___O
[10:16] <chip42> scheuri: oh really :p
[10:16] <philosophus> cion, look at man wget. It should have something in there about link following.
[10:16] <shadukan> every package manager in ubuntu is a frontend for the apt-get interface
[10:16] <bigfoot1> how do i paste text inside pico?
[10:16] <raf> I have an intel i810 chipset, but I can't configure its sound card
[10:16] <chripher> scheuri: why did not say that before now it is allready runing like heller
[10:16] <raf> what can I do?
[10:16] <DBO> scheuri, I am fairly certain they all manage dependancies in the same manner, and the it handles dependancies better is just a crazy rumor started by my wife
[10:16] <shadukan> ...raf
[10:16] <cion> philosophus ok I'll check that, thx ;) c'ya
[10:16] <philosophus> scheuri, does aptitude do something differently with dependencies?
[10:16] <scheuri> chripher: no worries...apt-get is fine,...:)
[10:16] <shadukan>  i have the same and runs out of the box
[10:17] <raf> I've installed modprobe snd_intel8x0, nothing happened
[10:17] <scheuri> DBO...your wife? ah well...too bad I never met her then...;)
[10:17] <shadukan> u must use the oss module or the alsa module to enable sound in i810 mobo soundcards
[10:17] <DBO> scheuri, that makes two of us
[10:17] <philosophus> cion, take a look at the Advanced Usage toward the end.
[10:17] <scheuri> DBO: LOL...;)
[10:18] <chripher> scheuri: hope so It look like I am geting hacked by aliens the text just run and run and run forest
[10:18] <DBO> chripher, just let apt-get go, it will be fine, if you have errors (like sometimes it will timeout from the server) just restart the dist-upgrade
[10:18] <shadukan> in my lappy i installed ubuntu and most of the hardware(not the modem) was configured out of the box
[10:18] <shadukan> i did some tweaking and the modem also worked fine
[10:18] <chripher> DBO: ah
[10:18] <LordFalcon> !upgrade
[10:18] <ubotu> [upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[10:18] <crazy_penguin> DBO: please could you repeat the command used for configuring the running services. than you
[10:18] <chripher> it goes in around 3000KB/s
[10:19] <raf> oss module is still installed, but I can't hear anything
[10:19] <DBO> crazy_penguin, "sudo sysv-rc-conf"
[10:19] <deep_> "FW_StartOpenGL() - Could not load OpenGL subsystem", quake 3 sais.
[10:19] <deep_> : (
[10:19] <chripher> nice speed on does servers
[10:19] <crazy_penguin> DBO: thx
[10:19] <philosophus> chripher, really?
[10:19] <shadukan> raf type in a console alsaconf and see there what does it says...
[10:19] <DBO> crazy_penguin, your welcome (thanks for being so nice =)
[10:19] <raf> shadukan: command not found
[10:19] <philosophus> chripher, what servers are you using? I only got 1000 MB/s using a mirror on my campus.
[10:20] <chripher> philosophus: yeah my line is 100/10 (In/out)
[10:20] <chripher> but 1000MB/s is more than 3000KB/s
[10:20] <philosophus> chripher, oops, I'm tired.
[10:21] <chripher> philosophus: no problemas
[10:21] <philosophus> chripher, 1000MB/s would be rather impressive for the hard drives in the servers.
[10:21] <chripher> philosophus: private line not campus
[10:21] <shadukan> just tested the sudo update-manager -d and works fine!
[10:22] <raf> shadukan: bash: alsaconf: command not found
[10:22] <aftertaf> raf, type dpkg -l | grep alsa and pastebin what you see.
[10:22] <chripher> philosophus: yeah but there are a isp here in sweden that givs you a line of 1gbps
[10:22] <raf> ok
[10:22] <chripher> philosophus: for private home's
[10:22] <Auckland_Pig> 1 gbps????????
[10:23] <raf> shadukan: http://raf.pastebin.com/713119
[10:23] <chripher> yeap you heard me 1 giga bit per second in download
[10:23] <philosophus> chripher, impressive. The US is really behind in that area.
[10:23] <chripher> philosophus: yeah us is to big
[10:25] <chripher> They did a massice fiber upgrade two month ago all over sweden and the all the birds ate the fiber
[10:25] <chripher> so they hade to use another type of fiber and do al over again
[10:25] <shadukan> raf i saw it
[10:25] <williswatson> quit
[10:26] <shadukan> try
[10:26] <shadukan> lsmod | grep i810
[10:26] <chripher> but now greenpeace is angry because the new isolation is maybe dangrous for birds
[10:26] <shadukan> i have to ask something when u say u dont hear anything when u log into gnome do u hear login sound
[10:26] <shadukan> or u cannont hear for example mp3 files?
[10:27] <deep_> Hey. I need to enable Direct Rendering, howto? "glxinfo | grep render" sais "direct rendering: No"
[10:27] <Kismet> DBO, no running X.org 7 on dapper
[10:27] <HIGH-FREQ> Deep7: enalbe dri in your xorg.conf  if your vid cards permits it
[10:27] <raf> lsmod | grep i810 returns nothing
[10:27] <HIGH-FREQ> errr deep_
[10:27] <chripher> does anyone know how to play mp3 trough windows shares without downloading them to local computer
[10:28] <raf> I have VLC, it plays mp3
[10:28] <DBO> Kismet, what is your problem now, I forgot already
[10:28] <deep_> HIGH-FREQ: Will check that, thx. :)
[10:28] <HIGH-FREQ> chripher: thru a samba network or other nfs
[10:28] <raf> I can't hear nither mp3 nor cd's
[10:28] <chripher> HIGH-FREQ: Samba i guess
[10:29] <seraphim> chripher: you can use smbfs to mount the windows-share on your linux-box
[10:29] <HIGH-FREQ> chripher: yes...samba or nfs......samba seems to be the easiest i think
[10:29] <raf> lsmod | grep intel returns the modules I loaded some minutes ago, the snd_intel8x0
[10:29] <Kismet> DBO, sorry... the problem is that: When i enable DRI + FGLRX or DRI + RADEON I get the machine hung up
[10:29] <chripher> Yes done that but I can not paly mp3 have to copy emm to local disk to hear any sound
[10:29] <DBO> Kismet, what video card?
[10:30] <deep_> HIGH-FREQ: Okay, i see that DRI is commented out. But i also have XGL/Compiz installed. XGL want it to be commented out. Does XGL work with it loaded?
[10:30] <seraphim> /ip/share  /place/to/mount  smbfs  uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000,username=smbuser,password=smbpass 0 0
[10:30] <HIGH-FREQ> xgl should work wihth dri by defualt...i believe
[10:30] <seraphim> chripher
[10:30] <seraphim> that's the line for your /etc/fstab
[10:31] <raf> shadukan: lsmod | grep intel returns the modules I loaded some minutes ago, the snd_intel8x0
[10:31] <deep_> HIGH-FREQ: Okay. Thanx for your support ^^
[10:31] <seraphim> oh. "//ip/share"#
[10:31] <deep_> :D
[10:31] <shadukan> give me a sec raf
[10:31] <HIGH-FREQ> deep_: hopefully that helped ...somewhat ;0
[10:31] <raf> shadukan: lsmod | grep i810 returns nothing
[10:31] <Kismet> DBO, I'm using Dapper as main line, and I have RV280 chipset that is a Radeon 9250
[10:32] <Kismet> DBO, I think that is a kernel bug
[10:32] <DBO> Kismet, so... dont enable DRI
[10:32] <Kismet> DBO, is what I'm doing but that's not normal should be working...
[10:32] <Auckland_Pig> is there a Public Domain OS?
[10:33] <jussie{F}> hello everyone
[10:33] <Auckland_Pig> rather than gpl'd
[10:33] <Flannel> Auckland_Pig: BSD?
[10:33] <jussie{F}> i have a bit of a problem.
[10:33] <raf> shadukan: ok
[10:33] <deep_> Hey again. :)
[10:33] <Fujitsu> !ask
[10:33] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[10:33] <deep_> Didnt work. :/
[10:33] <nalioth> Flannel: that is under the BSD license.  Auckland_Pig we can discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic  all the the licensing topics you wish
[10:33] <jussie{F}> i have an IBM thinkpad t30, and i would like to properly config the touchpad.
[10:34] <DBO> Kismet, make sure your libgl1-mesa-dri is up to date
[10:34] <Auckland_Pig> nalioth: oh thanks nalioth
[10:34] <Fujitsu> jussie{F}, is there a wiki page for the laptop?
[10:34] <MM2> why papper drake beta starts X with resolution 640x480? restarting gdm gives better resolution.
[10:34] <jussie{F}> um. possibly. let me check
[10:34] <chripher> yes back now
[10:35] <scheuri> chripher: still online...great...;)
[10:35] <jussie{F}> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T30
[10:35] <james__> hello. I'm a bit new here.
[10:35] <chripher> seraphim: yeap just fixing with my windows server all apps I can not run in linux
[10:36] <james__> anyone feel like helping me out?
[10:36] <jussie{F}> mine has the ultranav touchpad
[10:36] <shadukan> james_ first start by reading manuals
[10:36] <mustard_gaim> james__: type out your problem and lets see :)
[10:36] <shadukan> and then start asking questions
[10:36] <james__> yep. done and done.
[10:36] <scheuri> james__: state the nature of your question and we may try our best to help you
[10:36] <deep_> Okay, i really need to get quake 3 going. /me quake 3 nerd ;) If it dousent work in linux, then ill have to run dualboot, and.. dont want that. ^^,
[10:36] <chripher> scheuri: yeah still here
[10:36] <shadukan> deep_ quake3 runs perfect on my machine..;)
[10:37] <deep_> shadukan: You run version 1.32? :P
[10:37] <shadukan> also quake3 nerd gone
[10:37] <chripher> scheuri: do you no why I can not play trough samba and have to copy all mp3 to local to hear any snound
[10:38] <shadukan> deep_ :P nice one..i think quake is one of the games which has very good support for linux..
[10:38] <scheuri> chripher: no, sorry...
[10:38] <deep_> shadukan: Yeah, but, i need version 1.16n, or 1.11, and they dont exist on linux :O
[10:39] <james__> i have acces to a supercomputer via ssh at my uni. it has all kind of useful apps. i can ssh in from home with ssh username@blah. all goes well, I get in, but i can't run anything because i get the error: "no DISPLAY variable found w/ interactive job" and i have to admit I'm too much of a newbie to understand
[10:39] <deep_> And i have an Quake3 disc for windows, i have wine-installed it but it complains about OpenGL.
[10:39] <jussie{F}> see, all i can find is the mouse config in the system drop down menu
[10:39] <jussie{F}> theres no touchpad specific options
[10:39] <DBO> james__, enter the command DISPLAY=0:
[10:39] <james__> so if anyone could point me in the right direction, i'd be eternally grateful
[10:40] <shadukan> deep_ u have opengl rendering?
[10:40] <raf> shadukan: are you busy?
[10:40] <james__> DBO- once i've ssh'd in?
[10:40] <deep_> shadukan: I dunno, how can i check?
[10:40] <DBO> james__, yes
[10:40] <shadukan> i think ssh doesnt support X forwarding unless the sshd server explicity does it
[10:40] <DBO> james__, whenever you are getting that error, you enter that after
[10:40] <james__> excellent, I'll give that a try.
[10:41] <shadukan> glxinfo | grep render
[10:41] <DBO> james__, though, GUI apps generally dont work over SSH...
[10:41] <james__> Do you think you could explain why?
[10:41] <shadukan> in a xterm deep
[10:41] <DBO> shadukan, X forwarding is enabled by default I believe and has to be turned off
[10:41] <mustard_gaim> james__: don't forget the colon at the end :)
[10:41] <Godfather85> hi from RUSSIA
[10:41] <james__> yeah, i know, but this is DESIGNED to run gui apps, most folks use exceed in windows
[10:42] <shadukan> ...i think also..but u must have it of...as u state out correctly DBO
[10:42] <deep_> shadukan: "direct rendering: No"
[10:42] <deep_> Soo.. how do i enable
[10:42] <deep_> ?
[10:42] <deep_> **
[10:42] <shadukan> mate...thats why it complains for opengl
[10:42] <james__> Thanks DBo/mustard, brb
[10:42] <deep_> Thought so. ^^
[10:42] <chripher> DBO: do you have any solution for playning mp3 trough samba whitout copy to local machine
[10:42] <williswatson> is there someone use pptp connect to a VPN server?????
[10:42] <DBO> chripher, you have to mount the samba share
[10:43] <deep_> But how can i enable it? trough xorg.conf?
[10:43] <DBO> !tell chripher about samba
[10:43] <shadukan> @deep  try to find the graphics card u have
[10:43] <chripher> DBO: done that see it on desktop
[10:43] <shadukan> install the appropriate driver
[10:43] <scheuri> chripher: are the mp3 on a linux-box with samba?
[10:43] <DBO> chripher, no no, you didnt, look at the link =)
[10:43] <chripher> okay
[10:43] <shadukan> and then tweak /etx/X11/xorg.conf to enable opengl
[10:43] <raf> please, could someone help me about snd_intel8x0?
[10:44] <jussie{F}> cause all i really wanna do is turn off tap to click
[10:44] <DBO> chripher, scheuri has a point, if the mp3's are on a linux box, NFS is the way to go
[10:44] <jussie{F}> its driving me crazy
[10:44] <deep_> shadukan: nVidia GeForce 4, with the latest drivers. Ill google that openglthing. ^^
[10:44] <james__> Hmm. Still get errors:
[10:44] <shadukan> u installed the driver?
[10:44] <james__> [mep04jh@comp06 ~] $ DISPLAY=0:
[10:44] <james__> [mep04jh@comp06 ~] $ qrsh matlab
[10:44] <james__> error: could not get environment variable SGE_QMASTER_PORT or service "sge_qmaster"
[10:44] <james__> [mep04jh@comp06 ~] $
[10:44] <DBO> james__, are you doing -X with your ssh command?
[10:44] <chripher> DBO: oh my god do I have to do all that
[10:45] <deep_> shadukan: Yep. All set. ^^
[10:45] <james__> umm...no
[10:45] <DBO> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently  <--- chripher
[10:45] <mustard_gaim> james__: use the pastebin for pasting text btw
[10:45] <deep_> shadukan: Just the opengl-enabling that needs to be done. :)
[10:45] <shadukan> u have nvidia as driver enable..u must do that tweaking to ur xorg.conf
[10:45] <james__> k
[10:45] <mustard_gaim> !pastebin
[10:45] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:45] <aftertaf> raf, so. we understand you have no sound whatsoever....  what readme did you follow?
[10:45] <aftertaf> !alsa
[10:45] <ubotu> well, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[10:45] <aftertaf> !sound
[10:45] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:45] <deep_> shadukan: Yeah, i know. Done that to. : )
[10:46] <chripher> DBO: I have now only used the windows share option in file manager
[10:46] <DBO> chripher, are the files being shared from a linux machine?
[10:46] <eric_> Thank you, kind Ubuntu people, for giving me such a wonderful operating system.
[10:46] <aftertaf> raf, what does aplay -l show you?
[10:46] <intelikey> i wonder why 'fold' translates dubble spaces and tabs to single space   that's so un-cool...
[10:46] <shadukan> @deep see: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/57248-3d-enabling.html
[10:46] <chripher> DBO: now the files is on a xpsp2 machine
[10:47] <williswatson> is there someone use pptp connect to a VPN server?????
[10:47] <raf> aplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...
[10:47] <raf> aplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...
[10:47] <raf> sorry
[10:47] <aftertaf> ok raf
[10:47] <williswatson> is there someone use pptp connect to a VPN server?????
[10:47] <DBO> chripher, just follow the instructions at the link I sent you, its pretty straightforward =)
[10:47] <DBO> !patience
[10:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[10:48] <DBO> !VPN
[10:48] <ubotu> somebody said vpn was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[10:48] <aftertaf> raf, type rmmod (your module)
[10:48] <chripher> DBO: but long and I can not do any apt-get now or ? when I do upgrade to dabber
[10:48] <aftertaf> raf, then type sudo modprobe (yourmodule) isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x330 dma1=1 dma2=5 irq=5 fm_port=0x388
[10:49] <DBO> chripher, erm, yeah, lets wait for us to finish your dapper upgrade hmm?
[10:49] <DBO> chripher, btw, are you running nvidia drivers?
[10:49] <raf> aftertaf: ok
[10:49] <chripher> DBO: guess that is best
[10:49] <aftertaf> er sudo rmmod ;)
[10:49] <chripher> DBO: no I got a Matrox Millenium G400 Max
[10:49] <TheCarl> hello, I am looking for an easy to use video editing program that works on linux and is compatible with MPEG files.
[10:50] <DBO> chripher, thats good, no binary blobs to worry about =)  youre upgrade will by relatively happy then
[10:50] <chripher> DBO: that would be a shame to do so on such an old nice card
[10:50] <Auckland_Pig> DBO: did you search "video" in synaptic package manager?
[10:50] <raf> aftertaf: ready, I've removed th module and reloaded it
[10:50] <Auckland_Pig> sorry DBO not for you...
[10:50] <Auckland_Pig> TheCarl: did you search "video" in synaptic package manager?
[10:51] <chripher> DBO: but I want to be able to run Half life later so I have to fix the drivers fore my G400
[10:51] <TheCarl> no, thanks for the advise.
[10:51] <chripher> DBO: is there a way to play Half life without wine ?
[10:51] <DBO> chripher, ok... well, one crisis at a time
[10:51] <DBO> chripher, no
[10:52] <raf> aftertaf: aplay -l still returns "no soundcards found..."
[10:52] <scheuri> chripher: it might be possible to play it with cedega, but that is not free (as in beer)
[10:52] <variant> TheCarl: there is'nt one
[10:52] <TheCarl> there isn't
[10:52] <variant> TheCarl: not a Free Software one anyway afaik
[10:52] <variant> yse, there isn't
[10:52] <chripher> scheuri: I hate not free stuff in the linux world
[10:52] <variant> :P
[10:53] <chip42> chripher: cedega does it too, but imho it does not do half-life nearly as well... if it doesn't use directx, there is no reason to use cedega
[10:53] <DBO> chripher, dont bother with cedega, just dual-boot for games =)
[10:53] <TheCarl> so there is no video editing software on linux that can edit MPEGs?
[10:53] <scheuri> chripher: well, I appriciate that such things exists, it is mostly professional software though...I mean...we always have the choice...but gaming lacks quite on linux, still...that is rue
[10:53] <chripher> scheuri: use opengl no need of directx
[10:53] <variant> TheCarl: yes but mostly it's garbage
[10:54] <aftertaf> raf, did you type in the whole long line?
[10:54] <jussie> if someone could please help me with this touchpad problem i would be forever grateful. i cant get anything to work
[10:54] <variant> TheCarl: I have not checked for a few months though so mabyt here is some now
[10:54] <raf> aftertaf: yes
[10:54] <TheCarl> can you please tell me about 1 that nearly isn't garbage?
[10:54] <TheCarl> I am quite desperate
[10:54] <variant> TheCarl: freshmeat.net is actualy showing a couple now
[10:54] <aftertaf> ok. then, if aplay shows nothing, maybe it isnt your soundcard...?
[10:54] <variant> dunno if they are up to much though
[10:55] <chripher> scheuri: my gfx card does twice as many frames in opengl then D3D
[10:55] <TheCarl> sweet
[10:55] <chripher> hate d3d
[10:55] <TheCarl> I'll check it, thanks.
[10:55] <scheuri> :)
[10:55] <chripher> mm
[10:56] <aftertaf> raf. you see that? ^^
[10:56] <chripher> I have to go and take a shower and eat some lunch se you later guys
[10:56] <aftertaf> raf, can you pastebin the output of lspci?
[10:56] <scheuri> cu
[10:56] <raf> aftertaf: where?
[10:56] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[10:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:56] <raf> aftertaf: ok
[10:57] <jussie> okay. well thanks for the help (or lack thereof)
[10:58] <scheuri> impatient we are....*shakes head*
[10:58] <aftertaf> lol
[10:58] <DBO> what was his problem?
[10:58] <raf> aftertaf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13827
[10:58] <DBO> touchpad...
[10:59] <aftertaf> rockwell 4310
[10:59] <aftertaf> hmmm
[10:59] <raf> :|
[11:01] <jc-denton> where e can i get good png or svgs of the ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu logo?
[11:02] <variant> TheCarl: http://kdenlive.sourceforge.net/index.php this looks moderatly good
[11:02] <ColD_7> anybody installed realplayer here?
[11:02] <aftertaf> raf, is it a soundcard combined with a conexant modem?
[11:03] <variant> ColD_7: no, can't see why anyone would want to either tbh
[11:03] <raf> aftertaf: no. the modem is separated
[11:04] <raf> aftertaf: windows detects my soundcard as Riptide
[11:04] <ColD_7> can we have an embedded rhythmbox in firefox?
[11:04] <aftertaf> raf, try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=966921
[11:05] <raf> aftertaf: ok
[11:06] <tim_ubuntu> hey guys, having some problems here. using dapper and did last update yeaster day. booted notebook (nx6125 hp) this morning and came to the login screen, entered my infos, login screen disappears but nothing more happens. anyone a clue? i'm in console mode now, gnome stopped workign after login
[11:06] <aftertaf> tim_ubuntu, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop | start
[11:07] <tim_ubuntu> sec, will try
[11:07] <aftertaf> once stop once start ;)
[11:07] <intelikey> actually /etc/init.d/gdm stop piped to start....
[11:08] <LoCusF> is weird
[11:08] <cafe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13828
[11:08] <cafe> how to insert table beside my dropdown menu
[11:09] <aftertaf> intelikey, yeah, i didnt mean it as a literal command, just azy... :/
[11:09] <scheuri> cafe: you are probably in the wrong channel...
[11:09] <raf> aftertaf: when I run alsamixer, it returns "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[11:09] <aftertaf> tim_ubuntu, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:09] <aftertaf> raf, like the guy on the web page?
[11:09] <aftertaf> hmm.
[11:09] <tim_ubuntu> aftertaf: thank, seems so work, i'll try a reboot now
[11:10] <raf> aftertaf: yes
[11:10] <aftertaf> raf, try having sound in root... sudo vlc.
[11:10] <raf> aftertaf: ok
[11:10] <dli> raf, cat /proc/asound
[11:10] <intelikey> is 400 lines considered long for a bash script ?
[11:11] <hyphenated> intelikey: yeah, kinda
[11:11] <DBO> intelikey, yeah, thats getting up there
[11:11] <hyphenated> intelikey: wc -l /etc/init.d/* | sort -n
[11:12] <raf> aftertaf: I've tried sudo vlc, and I can't hear anything
[11:12] <aftertaf> ok so not that.
[11:12] <aftertaf> i think ubuntu cannot identify your sound card. there arent any drivers for it, alsa anyway.
[11:13] <tim_ubuntu> aftertaf: thinks worked out, thx!
[11:13] <aftertaf> seems there are oss drivers, but i dont know how to install them.
[11:13] <variant> aftertaf: whats the soundcard?
[11:13] <raf> dli: cat: /proc/asound: Is a directory
[11:14] <dli> raf, sorry, cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:14] <aftertaf> lol you jinxed me.
[11:14] <aftertaf> my sound has crashed now too.
[11:14] <raf> dli: --- no soundcards --- :'(
[11:14] <variant> raf: what soundcard do you have?
[11:14] <dli> raf, okay, "sudo lspci|grep -i audio"
[11:15] <raf> variant: intel i810 chipset
[11:15] <variant> raf: that should be well supported
[11:15] <raf> lspci say that is a rockwell
[11:15] <dli> raf, "sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0"
[11:15] <variant> raf: thats your voice/datafax modem
[11:15] <aftertaf> its a rockwell.
[11:15] <Auckland_Pig> how stable is dapper for a home machine?
[11:15] <monteiro> my dapper doesnt detect my hp psc printer, i go to printing and try to add, but nothing is detected, anyone knows ?
[11:15] <Auckland_Pig> should i worry before upgrading dapper on my home machine
[11:15] <raf> dli: 0000:01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 4310
[11:16] <aftertaf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13827 <- raf(s souundcard
[11:16] <dli> raf, after modprobe, "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[11:16] <NeoCicak> cant wait for dapper drake to be released
[11:17] <raf> dli: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils: Warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1163: No soundcards found...'.
[11:17] <aftertaf> NeoCicak, i couldnt wait ;)
[11:17] <raf> :'(
[11:17] <scheuri> aftertaf: inpatient we are...;)
[11:17] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:17] <scheuri> impatien
[11:17] <jc-denton> i have trouble with gimp in dapper
[11:17] <NeoCicak> is anyone using it now?
[11:17] <aftertaf> ive been dapper since october
[11:17] <jc-denton> it crashes and uses too much memory
[11:17] <NeoCicak> oh ok
[11:18] <aftertaf> raf, what modeule are you modprobing?
[11:18] <aftertaf> snd_i810 ?
[11:18] <dli> raf, read you "lspci" to find your sound card first? do you know it? try lshw also
[11:18] <raf> aftertaf: snd:intel8x0
[11:19] <aftertaf> your soundcard isnt intel8x0
[11:19] <aftertaf> its a rockwell 8310
[11:19] <raf> aftertaf: snd_intel8x0
[11:19] <raf> dli:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13827 <- raf's lspci
[11:19] <aftertaf> and try lshw  too ;)
[11:19] <shadukan> raf i have a simple question u have a different card aka a soundblaster and the onboard cause if such is the case one must be disabled
[11:19] <dli> raf, install lshw, and try it also
[11:20] <shadukan> from bios
[11:20] <scheuri> bye all
[11:20] <aftertaf> bye scheuri  :)
[11:20] <Auckland_Pig> i'm upgrading to dapper.... so see u after the upgrade.... hopefully :)
[11:21] <intelikey> is there a good reason that user should not be in root group ?
[11:21] <teroedni> Yeah
[11:21] <raf> dli: http://raf.pastebin.com/713180 <- lshw output
[11:22] <dli> intelikey, any reason why do you put one in root group?
[11:22] <raf> shadukan: I don't have two soundcards, it's only one
[11:22] <intelikey> read access to more files
[11:23] <aftertaf> its not i8x0 raf... so that modprobe wont help.... unlesss you also have an onboard soundcard ;)
[11:23] <raf> aftertaf: :O really???
[11:23] <aftertaf> afaik its not i8x0
[11:23] <serj> hi all
[11:24] <raf> aftertaf: so, what is?
[11:24] <aftertaf> i dont know. dont seem to have an alsa driver
[11:25] <raf> aftertaf: mmm, what can I do?
[11:25] <dli> raf, it may not be supported
[11:25] <raf> aftertaf: my PC is a HP Pavilion 8731C
[11:25] <aftertaf> are you sure its not a combined modem/soundcard?
[11:26] <aftertaf> honest? i'd go buy a cheap soundblaster
[11:26] <aftertaf> where you at?
[11:26] <jc-denton> http://www.ubuntu.com/include/kubuntulogo2.png
[11:26] <jc-denton> i need a similar logo to this but for ubuntu and xubuntu
[11:27] <raf> aftertaf: now I'm not sure about it
[11:27] <dli> raf: http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00581.html
[11:27] <raf> aftertaf: I see modem in one place, and soundcard in another place
[11:27] <dli> raf: check hardware support before you place your order :(
[11:27] <jc-denton> come on
[11:28] <jc-denton> otherwise i'll have to make a poster about suse linux
[11:29] <raf> dli: :'(
[11:29] <dli> raf, rockwell refuses to release any documentation. so, don't buy anything from rockwell
[11:29] <raf> god, I hate them
[11:29] <aftertaf> sound cards not expensive.
[11:29] <raf> yes, I've read the post
[11:30] <aftertaf> bye all.... work calls.
[11:30] <shadukan> guys i am going now...must go to the uni...to do a lesson of Content Distrubution...cya later
[11:30] <jc-denton> i neeed good ubuntu logos!
[11:30] <aftertaf> good luck raf, and buy a new card, you can for cheap and it'll be a lot easier. some things are not possible due to closed source n stuff... :/
[11:30] <jc-denton> otherwise i'll not make propaganda
[11:30] <raf> all, thanks!!!!!
[11:31] <aftertaf> no pb.
[11:31] <aftertaf> bye all....
[11:32] <hastesaver> jc-denton, http://art.ubuntu.com/
[11:32] <dli> jc-denton, stop repeating, please, I don't care about your propaganda in any way
[11:33] <jc-denton> lool
[11:33] <TheCarl> hello, can someone tell me what LinuxTV is?
[11:34] <raf> dli: thank you for help me
[11:34] <jc-denton> sry but google pictures did not work well for ubuntu logo
[11:34] <raf> I'm sleepy, bye all
[11:40] <KillerKiwi2006> >	;) http://people.warp.es/~isaac/blog/index.php/ubuntu-and-msn-logos-18
[11:40] <KillerKiwi2006> irony - http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2155546/samsung-admits-copying-handset-icons
[11:43] <D3a> hi
[11:49] <jackeye> hi what do you suggest i do to try to fix a hard drive?
[11:50] <jackeye> with input output errors
[11:50] <zcat[1] > RMA
[11:50] <zcat[1] > burn and boot ultimate boot CD, run the OEM diagnostics..
[11:51] <jackeye> zcat[1] : what is oem diagnostics?
[11:51] <jackeye> zcat[1] : i dont have warrenty on it anymore
[11:51] <zcat[1] > test tools provided by drive manufacturer
[11:52] <zcat[1] > Oh well.. at least run the diagnostics and find out if it's a hardware problem.
[11:52] <jackeye> zcat[1] : what else could it be?
[11:53] <chripher> I am back in Dapper
[11:53] <chripher> DBO: you here
[11:53] <zcat[1] > ummm. not sure.
[11:54] <jackeye> zcat[1] : filesystem ?
[11:54] <zcat[1] > for IO errors I wouldn't think so.
[11:55] <dentist> hey... i'm trying to compile something.. i've apt-get'd make and gcc... but its saying no such file on a bunch of header files
[11:55] <dentist> any idea which i need to use?
[11:56] <Ng> dentist: have you installed the "build-essential" package?
[11:56] <miriam> italy?
[11:56] <HymnToLife> !it
[11:56] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:56] <dentist> thats the one
[11:56] <zcat[1] > !b-e
[11:56] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[11:57] <zcat[1] > ohh.. someone already said that
[11:57] <dentist> ok now its just saying... wap54g-log.c:52:18: error: popt.h: No such file or directory
[11:58] <zcat[1] > follow the README, it might mention stuff you need..
[11:58] <dentist> it doesnt. lol... trying to find what package popt is from
[11:58] <Akrame> What's the answer to " Uubuntu is debian with new themes and new name"
[11:58] <Akrame> (hi all)
[11:58] <HymnToLife> !debian
[11:58] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[11:58] <dli> dentist, install the popt package, "apt-cache search popt"
[11:58] <samuli> "it's better than debian"
[11:59] <zcat[1] > package or sources? popt.h .. ?
[11:59] <chripher> can wine interact with firefox ?
[12:00] <zcat[1] > chripher: interact how?
[12:00] <linux_galore> chripher: yes
[12:00] <zcat[1] > you can run windows firefox in wine (I just did that so I can run shockwave plugin)
[12:00] <linux_galore> think he means gets firefox to use wine as a plugin option
[12:01] <zcat[1] > ahhhh.. that's the default isn't it? if you tell firefox to open an exe after you download it, wine handles it.
[12:01] <linux_galore> you can tell firefox to use a wine script when it sees set file types
[12:02] <linux_galore> Ive got flash 8 working in forefox thanks to wine
[12:02] <linux_galore> firefox*
[12:02] <zcat[1] > mine does anyhow, and I'm fairly sure I never configured anything for it..
[12:03] <zcat[1] > yeah, firefox with latest flash, shockwave and java plugins. I think there's even some activex stuff in there.. winetools set up all kinds os stuff for me
[12:03] <zcat[1] > *of
[12:04] <zcat[1] > but I STILL can't get MSIE to run :(
[12:04] <linux_galore> whats needed is a script to download all the bits and configure firefox so they can get shockwave and flash 8 up and going
[12:05] <linux_galore> zcat[1] : theres a script that installs IE
[12:05] <philosophus> linux_galore, easyubuntu might do that.
[12:05] <linux_galore> ies4linux  I think its called
[12:05] <zcat[1] > other than winetools which I already have?
[12:06] <linux_galore> zcat[1] : naaw it downloads IE and sets it up under wine for you in a single step
[12:06] <chripher> does anyone here know amout roboform ?
[12:06] <Ng> linux_galore: all you have to do is download the IE setup.exe and run it with wine, no need for a script :)
[12:07] <linux_galore> Ng: I run codweavers, even easier still
[12:07] <chripher> DBO: are you here
[12:07] <DBO> yes
[12:08] <bigfoot1> how can i check if i have a certain package (avahi-daemon) installed?
[12:08] <HymnToLife> bigfoot1> sarch fot it in Synaptic ?
[12:09] <bigfoot1> is there a way to check without using synaptic?
[12:10] <Ng> dpkg -l avahi-daemon
[12:10] <Ng> if the first two characters are "ii" then it's installed
[12:11] <bigfoot1> un <-- is what i got. this mean it's uninstalled, yes?
[12:11] <chripher> should I use alsa or esound or something else ?
[12:11] <g0dchild> !alsa
[12:11] <ubotu> [alsa]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[12:12] <juliux> is here a zaurus user?
[12:13] <g0dchild> hi, i've installed amarok-1.3.8- bu when i play a track i cant here any sounds
[12:13] <g0dchild> i have xine, arts and gstreamer engines installed
[12:13] <g0dchild> none of them worKs :S
[12:13] <enrique> hola a todos
[12:13] <enrique> algun espaol por aqui?
[12:13] <samuli> godchild, can you hear sounds in kaffeine for example?
[12:14] <g0dchild> samuli, havent tried yet, wait...let u know in  asec
[12:14] <g0dchild> yeah
[12:14] <g0dchild> can hear it
[12:15] <g0dchild> another thing i noticed, tried playing a movie on console using -vo svga- i can see the picture in a decent resolutio- but once more, no sound..
[12:15] <g0dchild> I think i might have screwed up after all
[12:16] <zcat[1] > Ng: every time I run the setup program (from MS or the one I have on a CD or the one winetools uses) it says it can't install all components. This on three different versions of Wine, standard, bleeding edge repos from source-o-matic, and another repo mentioned on the wine.sourceforget page..
[12:17] <Ng> zcat[1] : strange. unfortunately I'm not on an Intel platform at the moment, so I can't test it, but as I understand it IE6 should work fine in any recent wine
[12:17] <Ng> zcat[1] : it certainly works fine in Codeweavers Crossover WINE, but that's non-free
[12:18] <ex-parrot> hello everyone... I just upgraded a server-only install to dapper and my network interface is no longer working... any suggestions anyone
[12:18] <ex-parrot> ?
[12:18] <ex-parrot> I'm getting a "no such device" message... I did change the NIC right before upgrading but breezy recognised this fine and was working
[12:18] <Ng> ex-parrot: does ifconfig -a show the interface?
[12:18] <ex-parrot> no it doesn't Ng
[12:19] <zcat[1] > ex-parrot: I had the same problem.. but I can't help. I gave up and did a fresh install.
[12:19] <ex-parrot> oh it's showing an eth2
[12:19] <ex-parrot> I'm rather loath to re-install as I finally got postfix working
[12:19] <ex-parrot> but I needed to upgrade to support my new dual CPU motherboard properly
[12:20] <ex-parrot> why would it jump right in and give it eth2?
[12:20] <ex-parrot> then insist it still doesn't exist?
[12:21] <Ng> that is quite odd
[12:21] <adam_> hi friends
[12:21] <ex-parrot> just ifrenaming eth2 to eth0 seems to have fixed it
[12:21] <ex-parrot> for now anyway
[12:21] <brent> MURDER
[12:21] <brent> death
[12:21] <brent> blood
[12:21] <brent> blaaagggh
[12:22] <ex-parrot> ahem?
[12:22] <ajmitch_> how odd
[12:22] <MM2> there is chkconfig in redhat, which adds initscript to correspondent rcN.d directory. What is equivivalent in Ubuntu?
[12:22] <ex-parrot> Ng, it would seem I still had the old NIC's MAC address in iftab
[12:23] <Ng> ah
[12:23] <Ng> :)
[12:23] <dli> ex-parrot, why not use udev rules to fix eth names?
[12:23] <ex-parrot> dli, don't know about udev... is it new in dapper?
[12:23] <Alsa> umm how do i reinstall my vga driver
[12:24] <dli> ex-parrot, http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2005_12_01_dev-loki_archive.html
[12:24] <Ng> MM2: update-rc.d or BUM if you want a graphical tool
[12:24] <adam_> have installed my skystar2 DVB-t pci card , wich application need i to watch DVB-t on Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[12:24] <ex-parrot> thanks dli I'll take a look
[12:24] <Alsa> ubuntu already has it detected but it cant quite get the driver details
[12:24] <dli> ex-parrot, udev is supported since kernel 2.6.8, iirc
[12:24] <MM2> Ng: ty
[12:24] <Alsa> !ati
[12:24] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:25] <ex-parrot> nevermind dli, fixing iftab seems to have solved it
[12:25] <dli> ex-parrot, ifrename is not a real solution, udev is
[12:26] <ex-parrot> dli, how so? I'm not overly fussed so long as it works...
[12:27] <adam_> have installed my skystar2 DVB-t pci card , wich application need i to watch DVB-t on Ubuntu 5.10 ? or how to install xine ?
[12:28] <avu> launchpad tells me, my wiki name is Avu, but when I try to logon to the wiki with Avu and my launchpad password it does not work. Am I missing something?
[12:33] <dbzdeath> how do i downgrade a package?
[12:35] <Alsa> !smb
[12:35] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Alsa
[12:35] <Alsa> !samba
[12:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[12:39] <adam_> need help, how to configure DVB-t card on UBUNTU 5.10, the kernel modules are allready loaded (b2c2 - airstar 2), but how to wach tv wit kaffeine ?
[12:40] <Jowi> what do I need in order to load pdf or postscript files in Gimp? I get the error "plugin could not load image"
[12:40] <adam_> adam_,
[12:41] <Jowi> ah, wait. pdf's seem to work now. but not .ps. hmmm... i will find a workaround
[12:44] <orbin> Jowi: who gives images in pdf/ps format anyway?
[12:45] <Ap4ch3> How do I get the special key for turning the wireless minipci card on/off on my dell laptop? I get this from the kernel log : ' kernel: [4414803.513000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e008 <keycode>' to make it known'
[12:46] <dpc> Hello, I have just installed ubuntu, and was wondering if anyone could help me with a question I have about the default version of Evolution (2.4.1 on Breezy Badger).  I was wondering if there was a way to upgrade it to a different version, because 2.4.1 seems to have a bug talking to some IMAP servers.  I know for a fact that 2.2.2 (on Fedora core 4) and 2.6.0 (on Fedore core 5) work very well with our IMAP servers.  Is there a convenient way to upgrade to 2.6
[12:46] <dpc> .0 or retrograde to 2.2.2 under Ubuntu (maybe via different repositories)?
[12:47] <HymnToLife> dpc> try upgrading to Dapper
[12:48] <dpc> Is there a procedure I can follow to to the upgrade to Dapper Drake?
[12:48] <HymnToLife> !upgrde
[12:48] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[12:48] <HymnToLife> !upgrade
[12:48] <ubotu> well, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[12:49] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me fix something? http://piano.juicemedia.tv/photos/messed1.jpg that's my boot screen, how do I get it to look right?
[12:49] <HymnToLife> pianoboy3333> now loading :D
[12:49] <HymnToLife> dialup sucks
[12:49] <pianoboy3333> ok
[12:50] <pianoboy3333> yep :)
[12:50] <DrNickRiviera> is there some way to "merge" several mounted hard drives, like mounting them all into the same directory?
[12:50] <valehru> how can open rar files from linux?  i.e. there are a group of combined rar files, eg. file.01, file.02. file.03.
[12:50] <HymnToLife> !tell DrNickRiviera about raid
[12:50] <valehru> How can i unrar all of those?
[12:51] <HymnToLife> pianoboy3333> it seems like our boot screen is using a resolution too high for your monitor
[12:51] <pianoboy3333> ...?
[12:51] <KillerKiwi2006> DrNickRiviera: Do you want the hard drives to copy each other or just expand as if they are one giant drive
[12:51] <chripher> have anyone here used synce
[12:51] <pianoboy3333> HymnToLife: My monitor is using 1280x10243
[12:51] <dpc> HymnToLife, I understand that upgrading to Dapper Drake may also give me a newere version of Evolution.  So is there any information (such as a web page) that give the procedure for newly installed users of Breezy Badger to upgrade to Dapper Drake?
[12:51] <pianoboy3333> *1280x1024
[12:51] <DrNickRiviera> thanks KillerKiwi, will have a look at  it
[12:51] <Ng> valehru: install rar (should be in universe or multiverse) and do "rar x file.XX" where XX is the highest number (though it probably works with any of them)
[12:52] <HymnToLife> dpc> didn't you read what ubotu told you
[12:52] <DrNickRiviera> didn't know one could do stuff like that with raid :/
[12:52] <HymnToLife> !tell dpc about upgrade
[12:52] <valehru> thx
[12:52] <DrNickRiviera> i want them to expand as one giant drive
[12:52] <KillerKiwi2006> DrNickRiviera: RAID is the drives mirroring each other and is good for hard drive redundancy
[12:52] <HymnToLife> pianoboy3333> those kind of things are typical of a too high resolution, check your settings
[12:53] <pianoboy3333> HymnToLife: settings where?
[12:53] <DrNickRiviera> ah, i know that, thought one of the raid modes might do what i want
[12:53] <DrNickRiviera> never came to grips with all the different ones there area
[12:53] <DrNickRiviera> *are
[12:53] <HymnToLife> pianoboy3333> does it look OK after boot ?
[12:53] <pianoboy3333> HymnToLife: yes, it's fine
[12:53] <KillerKiwi2006> DrNickRiviera: If you just want one gaint dirve I think UnionFS does that
[12:54] <pianoboy3333> HymnToLife: I was just wondering if there was a way to not look at an ugly booting and shutdown screen....
[12:54] <HymnToLife> DrNickRiviera> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID :)
[12:54] <HymnToLife> pianoboy3333> turn of your monitor :)
[12:54] <Ng> KillerKiwi2006: RAID doesn't have to be mirroring, it has multiple modes
[12:54] <HymnToLife> off*
[12:54] <valehru> trying to run sudo apt-get install rar but i get the following error: E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[12:54] <pianoboy3333> HymnToLife: ... Even if I got rid of the boot screen, the plain text is still distorted
[12:54] <Ng> DrNickRiviera: sounds like you might want to look at LVM
[12:54] <KillerKiwi2006> Ng
[12:55] <HymnToLife> mirroring is RAID-1, RAID-0 does what you seem to want
[12:55] <orbin> valehru: rar is in multiverse
[12:55] <KillerKiwi2006> Ng: really ive ony ever used it for drive redundancy
[12:55] <orbin> valehru: have you enabled it?
[12:55] <valehru> was sure that i did
[12:55] <Nameeater> how can I get ubuntu to use more than 60hz refresh at 1280? I have tried the fixres thing but no luck
[12:55] <HymnToLife> pianoboy3333> definitely a resoution problem
[12:55] <HymnToLife> !tell pianoboy3333 about fixres
[12:55] <Ng> KillerKiwi2006: that's fair enough, but it does also have what are called striping modes (and, indeed, mirroring&striping modes) so you can join multiple disks together
[12:55] <pianoboy3333> I'll take a look at that
[12:55] <Ng> KillerKiwi2006: an ideal combination is to have both, so you get speed and redundancy :)
[12:55] <valehru> getting a lot of errors when I start synaptic
[12:56] <orbin> Nameeater: pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:56] <KillerKiwi2006> Ng: cool
[12:56] <valehru> orbin, mind if I dump in a PM to you?
[12:56] <HymnToLife> Ng> mirroring is RAID-1, stripping is RAID-0
[12:56] <dpc> Thanks HymnToLife, I was searching, and found the procedure while we were chatting.  So I will give that a try.
[12:56] <valehru> you might have more of an idead than me
[12:56] <Ng> HymnToLife: I know :)
[12:56] <HymnToLife> RAID-0+1 is cool :p
[12:56] <pianoboy3333> HymnToLife: what's a CRT monitor?
[12:56] <HymnToLife> pianoboy3333> Cathodic Ray Tube
[12:57] <HymnToLife> non-LCD :p
[12:57] <pianoboy3333> oh
[12:57] <HymnToLife> wht you seem to have, I don't think such problem occur on LCDs
[12:58] <valehru> anyone know how to install rar on a 64 bit system
[12:58] <valehru> ?
[12:58] <Nameeater> orbin: http://name.pastebin.com/713302
[12:58] <pvd2006> Is Dapper Drake going to be more reponsive than breezy badger, for example the delay in loading windows in badger.
[12:58] <Ng> valehru: ah, you may well have to download the official rar tarball and install it manually
[12:58] <valehru> ahh k...
[12:58] <pianoboy3333> HymnToLife: no, it's because I use a DVI cable instead of a VGA from my gfx card to my computer, it looks fine on my VGA cable.
[12:59] <Ng> valehru: it should work fine though because the amd64 ubuntu has 32bit compatibility libraries
[12:59] <valehru> Ng, so would that be the reason it wouldnt install through synaptic
[12:59] <orbin> Nameeater: run this pls: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[12:59] <Ng> valehru: yep
[01:00] <Nameeater> monitorrange: 30-69, 50-120
[01:00] <pianoboy3333> HymnToLife: do you know what do to with dvi cables?
[01:00] <orbin> Nameeater: gksudo 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:00] <HymnToLife> pianoboy3333> nope, sorry, never used them
[01:00] <HymnToLife> why why not use the VGA ?
[01:00] <orbin> Nameeater: ctrl+f and find "horizsync"
[01:01] <orbin> Nameeater: then change the values there to 30-69
[01:01] <pianoboy3333> HymnToLife: DVI has a better look
[01:01] <orbin> Nameeater: 50-120 should be the vertrefresh values
[01:01] <HymnToLife> hmm
[01:01] <HymnToLife> !dvi
[01:01] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[01:01] <HymnToLife> pianoboy3333> try searching !forums or !google
[01:02] <Nameeater> orbin: ok thanks I will try that now
[01:06] <simsalabim> hi
[01:06] <simsalabim> anyone here_
[01:07] <kbrooks> i'd like to start selling at my school. i have 44 cents ATM
[01:07] <simsalabim> Guys i needd ur help do install xmms fast
[01:07] <simsalabim> can uhelp me?
[01:07] <simsalabim> im kinda new in linux
[01:08] <orbin> simsalabim: sys > admin >synaptic
[01:08] <kbrooks> i have a platypus and a bear (ALL fake) and a mini car
[01:08] <orbin> simsalabim: search for xmss, then grab it
[01:08] <Jowi> orbin: sorry, was temporary away. companies use alot of pdf's.
[01:08] <kbrooks> what is the most ideal price to sell these three things?
[01:08] <simsalabim> i dont need to go to terminal?
[01:09] <kbrooks> i want to raise money to donate to someone
[01:09] <orbin> simsalabim: if you mean do you have to compile stuff, then no, not usually
[01:09] <simsalabim> ok how i install it
[01:09] <orbin> ubotu: tell simsalabim about synaptic
[01:10] <simsalabim> i was clicking that install shortcut
[01:10] <simsalabim> but nothing hapend
[01:11] <orbin> install shortcut?
[01:11] <orbin> click on search in the toolbar, enter xmms, then double-click the xmms package when found, then click on apply
[01:13] <g0dchild> can someone tell me 'bout alsa?
[01:14] <g0dchild> !alsa
[01:14] <ubotu> I heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[01:14] <hulk> hello anybody that is uptodate oin ivtv driver that can tell my why my huapage 150 isnt working ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13830
[01:15] <Skeletonix> Hi ....  when I restart new kernel  . I saw Kernel panic- not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-bloc . I use as .config /boot/config2.6.15-22-386 and remove from kernel only Use PCI DMA as default(I have old HDD) and rekompile kernel.
[01:16] <dpc> Thanks, HymnToLife, I am proceeding w/ Dapper upgrade (per ubotu).  Need to reboot shortly.  Bye
[01:16] <sliipy> Skeletonix: probably you forgot the initrd.. or if you have compiled the kernel yourself, you're missing drivers for you ide controller
[01:16] <Ng> Skeletonix: did you make an initrd?
[01:16] <sliipy> (say y to them instead of m)
[01:16] <Skeletonix> no I didn't make initrd
[01:17] <hulk> anybody pondering a fix for my problem ?
[01:17] <hulk> no thoughts ?
[01:18] <simsalabim> ok big tnx for help
[01:20] <Ng> Skeletonix: I would have thought that you could just specify a kernel command line parameter to the default ubuntu kernel to make it disable dma
[01:20] <Ng> Skeletonix: I think "ide=nodma" will do the trick
[01:21] <Skeletonix> Ng:...thanx!
[01:21] <Skeletonix> I try it
[01:22] <FiReStArTeR> Hey, could someone help me out, I am getting this error when booting - /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root does not exist dropping to a shell
[01:22] <Skeletonix> Ng: Wher eI must write "ide=nodma" ..to grub menu?
[01:22] <pvd2006> after you make changes to gnome desktop like turning off nautilis and setting a different windows manager how can you reset gnome?
[01:23] <speedsix> Hi all
[01:23] <Ng> Skeletonix: the /boot/grub/menu.lst probably has a line like "kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda2" for each of the kernels - just add " ide=nodma" to the end
[01:24] <FiReStArTeR> Does no one know how to fix the error I am getting? (/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root does not exist dropping to a shell)
[01:24] <speedsix> I have added a NFS share to my fstab which mounts fine but takes ages on boot at the 'mounting remote filesystems' part, any ideas?
[01:24] <hulk> try sudo /etc/init.d/<what u what to tinker with> restart/stop/start
[01:24] <Ng> speedsix: might be DNS? does the NFS server have a hosts file entry for your machine?
[01:24] <hulk> that was @ pvd2006
[01:25] <Ng> pvd2006: log out and back in, or /etc/init.d/gdm restart as hulk suggested :)
[01:26] <FiReStArTeR> hulk you have any ideas on the problem I am having?
[01:26] <hulk> he i cam her for help myself :)
[01:26] <g0dchild> hi Ng - i am having some trble with alsa- whenever I try to play anything, i am getting a msg saying alsa's busy
[01:27] <g0dchild> it happened after i followedd the instructions on how to use multiple audio apps simultaneously at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[01:27] <pvd2006> wow
[01:27] <speedsix> g0dchild what apps are you trying?
[01:27] <hulk> huapage 150 isnt working ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13830 any ideas why firware wont load ?
[01:27] <pvd2006> That is dumb, I tweaked out gnome and now its runs slower, lol. I switched to use atlanta windows manager and turned off nautilus
[01:27] <g0dchild> amarok, kaffeine- so far..
[01:28] <g0dchild> yes, xmms as well.
[01:28] <speedsix> hulk you may be putting the firmware in the wrong dir, friend had the same problem
[01:28] <g0dchild> i've already stopped alsa-daemon from /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop - no results
[01:28] <pvd2006> It took firefox like 7-8 seconds to load up on restart of gnome
[01:28] <speedsix> and all the apps are set to use alsa?
[01:28] <hulk> hum oki whats the right dir the :) ill go check on that ...
[01:29] <speedsix> I can't remember sorry, I know the dir it listed was the wrong one
[01:29] <speedsix>  I have added a NFS share to my fstab which mounts fine but takes ages on boot at the 'mounting remote filesystems' part, any ideas?
[01:29] <pvd2006> That time it took closer to 10 seconds to load firefox, I wonder if this is caused by switching the windows manager
[01:29] <valehru> when I try and run gnomebaker I keep getting the following error: Segmentation fault
[01:29] <valehru> any ideas?
[01:30] <hulk> oh yeah well i puts it wrong at first and i moved it to /lib/modules/ i hope thats is correct ?
[01:30] <valehru> its the same for azereuz
[01:30] <valehru> Azureus
[01:30] <pvd2006> how can you reset gnome desktop defaults?
[01:31] <speedsix> pvd2006 there's a folder in your home dir somewhere with all the gnome settings
[01:31] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: you can try removing the gnomeconfig file and restarting gnome
[01:32] <pvd2006> gnomefreak, is that ok to remove th file?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> its would be ~/.gnome something
[01:32] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: it regenerates itself when you restart
[01:32] <gnomefreak> log back in
[01:32] <pvd2006> I guess it would be in /etc/ or ~/?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> ~/.
[01:33] <gnomefreak> i just cant remember name of file
[01:33] <gnomefreak> its in your home dir iirc
[01:34] <Herb-> anyone here know whether the root pw for the VMware version of Ubuntu is available?
[01:35] <pvd2006> gnonefreak, I see a directory called .gnome/
[01:35] <pvd2006> gnomefreak*
[01:35] <Skeletonix> Ng: Thanx!! It works!!!!!
[01:35] <speedsix> Herb- root password?
[01:36] <Herb-> speedsix: yes the root password
[01:36] <pvd2006> Gnomefreak, I also have a .gnome2/ and .gnome_private/
[01:36] <killefiz> Herb-: ubuntu doesn't have a root password by default
[01:36] <killefiz> you're supposed to use sudo
[01:36] <Herb-> I'm test-driving Ubuntu via its VMware "VMX Appliance"
[01:37] <cwork> gnomefreak, is it this that you want? cwork@ubuntu:~/.gconf/desktop$    (oneko is in the channel)
[01:37] <Herb-> when I started it, it told me there were 16 updates but needed the root password to apply them
[01:37] <steveire> When I install a package with adept, and then remove it, the supplementary packages are not removed with it.
[01:37] <speedsix> Herb- you need to put your own user password in
[01:38] <g0dchild> can someone please help me to configure sound...gak!
[01:38] <g0dchild> I am not able to hear any sounds now :(
[01:38] <steveire> in installed tipptrainer ( 4 packages were required), and then removed it. but it only removed the tipptrainer package and the data. Two other wxWidget packages were not removed
[01:38] <valehru> ok...so I found out that gnomebaker doesnt work out of the box in amd64 however it does in z86
[01:39] <valehru> x86
[01:39] <steveire> Is there a setting to remove packages with no packages relying on them?
[01:39] <speedsix> g0dchild the one on the ubuntu forum HOWTO should work for you?
[01:39] <Herb-> I realize it's possible the VMware Ubuntu might be locked down
[01:39] <kbrooks> BBL
[01:39] <speedsix> Herb- where did you get the ubuntu disc from?
[01:39] <g0dchild> speedsix, thats the problem- after i tried that I am not able to hear any sounds
[01:39] <speedsix> Oh
[01:40] <Ng> Skeletonix: excellent :)
[01:40] <g0dchild> followed it right down to the dot
[01:40] <pvd2006> I found .gconf/
[01:40] <steveire> no ideas?
[01:41] <steveire> I guess it doesn't matter if you've got hd space to throw away...
[01:41] <Skeletonix> I have printer on ubuntu and I shared it on winXP ..but it doesn't work. In acces.log is this :
[01:41] <Skeletonix> 192.168.0.2 - - [12/May/2006:13:34:33 +0200]  "POST /printers/Stylus-C64 HTTP/1.1" 200 569 Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported
[01:41] <Skeletonix> localhost - - [12/May/2006:13:34:48 +0200]  "POST / HTTP/1.1" 400 0 - -
[01:41] <Skeletonix> and in error. log is :
[01:41] <Skeletonix> E [12/May/2006:13:25:17 +0200]  cupsdCloseClient: Error in the push function.
[01:41] <Skeletonix> E [12/May/2006:13:27:56 +0200]  Creating missing directory "/var/run/cups/certs"
[01:41] <speedsix> There is a command to find out the device numbers for your soundcard, may need to change it in your conf. Have you got a ling to the unbuntu guide for me?
[01:41] <Skeletonix> where could be a problem ..pleas ?
[01:42] <g0dchild> yeah
[01:42] <g0dchild> its here
[01:42] <g0dchild> !alsa
[01:42] <ubotu> it has been said that alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[01:42] <Herb-> ahh I'm not using a disk, I'm using the VMware version found at http://cdimage/ubuntu.com/Ubuntu-5.10.zip
[01:42] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[01:42] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[01:43] <speedsix> I used this conf iirc http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=happy+alsa
[01:43] <g0dchild> !dmix
[01:43] <ubotu> I heard dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:43] <eXistenZ> how can i download dapper?
[01:44] <speedsix> alsa did drive me nuts though, can be a total pain
[01:44] <DBO> !upgrade
[01:44] <ubotu> from memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[01:44] <speedsix> Sound in linux is a mess
[01:45] <DBO> speedsix, its getting better, it was a real mess 4 or 5 years ago
[01:45] <Nameeater> orbin: it didnt fix it :( it still insists on using 60hz at 1280
[01:45] <steveire> Often when I install packages from adet, the new packages do not appear in the application menu.
[01:45] <steveire> Is that normal?
[01:46] <DBO> steveire, yes
[01:46] <speedsix> imo everything should use alsa and ditch the rest
[01:46] <steveire> is it reconfigurable?
[01:46] <DBO> steveire, just add them in with smeg
[01:46] <pvd2006> what was the command to restart gnome again?
[01:46] <DBO> CTRL + ALT + Backspace
[01:47] <Nameeater> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:47] <steveire> smeg?
[01:47] <DBO> !smeg
[01:47] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[01:47] <orbin> Nameeater: yes, did you do that?
[01:47] <DBO> steveire, just run smeg in a terminal
[01:47] <Nameeater> orbin: yup
[01:48] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, are you using dapper
[01:49] <orbin> Nameeater: what monitor do you have?
[01:50] <steveire> command not found
[01:50] <steveire> it's cool, anyway. I'll use alacarte
[01:50] <DBO> steveire, same thing =P
[01:51] <Nameeater> orbin: IBM E74
[01:51] <maskd_> hey guys, just a quick question, i just installed apache and php, but whenever i try to make a new php file as my regular user i keep getting the message:
[01:51] <maskd_> Warning:  Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0. I know it's a permissions issue and when i set it to be read  my everyone its ok, but is there anyway that i can make the files viewable without chmoding all the time?
[01:52] <hulk> what is the files in /lib/modules for ?
[01:52] <hulk> can i remove them ?
[01:52] <Nameeater> orbin: hmm maybe my monitor cant do more than 60hz at 1280..
[01:53] <orbin> Nameeater: that's a possibility :)
[01:53] <orbin> actually, i should have asked that ifirst
[01:53] <Nameeater> I'm sure I had it on more in wondows..
[01:53] <pvd> alright, that is better, few..
[01:53] <pvd> phew*
[01:53] <Nameeater> will have to check!
[01:54] <pvd> what is a good and fast windows manager for gnome that wont cause errors?
[01:54] <orbin> hulk: no
[01:54] <azathoth> can anyone explain why firefox is trying to download ebayISAPI.dll instead of doing something with it? any way to fix it?
[01:55] <linux_galore> azathoth: thats a windows file
[01:55] <maskd_> linux_galore: ebay uses a dll for all its web stuff
[01:55] <linux_galore> azathoth: so Firefox hasnt got a clue what to do with it so it defaults to a save mode
[01:55] <Tidus> linux_galore: but the website uses that lol
[01:55] <azathoth> linux_galore: so what, you can't go on ebay in linux?
[01:56] <Delicate_Shadow> hi guys
[01:56] <maskd_> azathoth: you can
[01:56] <linux_galore> azathoth: I go on ebay all the time never had that problem
[01:56] <Delicate_Shadow> can someone tell me if Ubuntu supports Araic Language ?
[01:57] <pvd> I just went to ebay and looked around, it works fine for me.
[01:57] <linux_galore> Ive been buying stuff on ebay now for a good 3 years with mozilla/firefox
[01:58] <linux_galore> I suspect he is trying to access a windows only service
[01:58] <Tidus> personally, i use opera
[01:58] <maskd_> firefox sometimes randomly does stuff like that for me
[01:58] <maskd_> just restart firefox
[01:58] <thunder00> hello.. is there a nice tui application that changes date/time on ubuntu ?
[01:58] <maskd_> see if it fixes it
[01:58] <linux_galore> or he is visiting a phishing site and that files a virus
[01:58] <Tidus> firefox is cool, but opera is faster on this machine than FF
[01:59] <maskd_> thunder00: right click on the date in the top left corner and go to adjust date and time
[01:59] <linux_galore> thunder00: right click on the clock
[01:59] <Kane666> hey
[01:59] <linux_galore> opera and firefox are pretty much the same for me
[02:00] <pvd>  so I've heard that dapper drake is suppose to be faster than breezy badger if you get it up and running right, is that true?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> pvd: gnome is faster
[02:00] <linux_galore> pvd yeah its allot faster
[02:00] <linux_galore> specifically the gnome stuff
[02:00] <pvd> linux_galore than is good because I know a lot of delay in opening windows on breezy
[02:00] <pvd> that*
[02:01] <linux_galore> pvd the delay is usually due to a lack of resources or your system is just slow
[02:01] <samuli> gnome is faster in dapper. I disagree.
[02:01] <samuli> It's really slow, on the other hand. kde is flying.
[02:02] <linux_galore> yeah I find the file manager in kde still snots on nautilus for speed
[02:02] <orbin> linux_galore: dapper stable enough for desktop use yet?
[02:02] <pvd> linux_galore, I should be fine, I have a amd 1500 athlon xp, 1gig of 400mhz memory
[02:02] <linux_galore> orbin: well it works for me
[02:03] <Tidus> it's funny... konqueror's always been faster than naut for me
[02:03] <linux_galore> pvd yeah should be fine
[02:03] <gnomefreak> orbin: i would wait the 2 weeks to be honest
[02:03] <linux_galore> pvd turn some of the file preview options of in nautilus, bet it gets way faster
[02:04] <orbin> gnomefreak: 2 weeks?  i thought release was june 6?
[02:04] <pvd> linux_galore, I turned off nautilus as a desktop manager
[02:04] <gnomefreak> orbin: june 1
[02:04] <pvd> its a little faster
[02:04] <Amaranth> hulk: /lib/modules is kernel modules (late)
[02:04] <Amaranth> hulk: removing them == bad news
[02:04] <linux_galore> yeah they keep banging on about nautilus but to be honest its total shite
[02:05] <linux_galore> gnome really needs a new file manager
[02:05] <pvd> I dont really like the way KDE looks, it has too much uneccesary stuff, but I guess you can turn all that off.
[02:05] <gnomefreak> linux_galore: use egnome than
[02:05] <pvd> egnome?
[02:05] <pvd> hmmm
[02:06] <gnomefreak> e16 file manager with gnome
[02:06] <Kane666> n00b alert..!! whats the diffrence between gnome and KDE ?
[02:06] <g0dchild> gnomefreak, do i need to recompile kernel after upgrading alsa?
[02:06] <linux_galore> gnomefreak: e17 now
[02:06] <g0dchild> alsa!
[02:06] <gnomefreak> linux_galore: e17 is _not_ in ther repos
[02:06] <g0dchild> !alsa
[02:06] <pvd> hmmm
[02:06] <ubotu> alsa is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[02:06] <g0dchild> heh
[02:06] <samuli> pvd, same for me.
[02:06] <gnomefreak> s/ther/the
[02:06] <linux_galore> gnomefreak: is for me lol
[02:06] <avu> I like nautilus :(
[02:06] <samuli> I'm using kde now and trying to figure out how to make it more gnomish.
[02:07] <pvd> samuli are you using it because its faster?
[02:07] <samuli> pvd, yeah.
[02:07] <Herb-> speedsix: I think I found how to initialize  " sudo"
[02:07] <gnomefreak> linux_galore: you added a 3rd party repo and if you installed it when on login screen choose egnome ;)
[02:07] <orbin> Kane666: different desktop environments
[02:07] <samuli> It's a _lot_ faster on my xp 1700+ 256mb box.
[02:07] <pvd> samuli your running dapper drake though right
[02:07] <pvd> ?
[02:07] <maric> alguien para ablar
[02:07] <samuli> yeah.
[02:07] <gnomefreak> !es
[02:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:07] <maric> yeahh
[02:07] <Kane666> orbin: so does that mean, its basicly a diffrent GUI or am i heading in the wrong direction ? lol
[02:08] <linux_galore> gnomefreak: right now Im playing with the cvs version of XFCE5
[02:08] <maric> hello
[02:08] <samuli> I installed ubuntu and then the kde-core package and I still got tons of stuff in the menus, lol.
[02:08] <gnomefreak> linux_galore: playing with fire i see ;)
[02:08] <samuli> I imagine how the kubuntu-desktop menus must look like.
[02:08] <linux_galore> gnomefreak: yeah things break, but dam its fast, it like gnome with no lag
[02:08] <Tidus> samuli: i got a dual amd athlon mp2100 with 1.25gb ram
[02:08] <Herb-> ahh yes success :D
[02:09] <samuli> Tidus, well, good for you mate :)
[02:09] <HumpBack> Hello, I'm getting a PANCI: Circular definition when booting dapper. It was ok a few days ago but after some upgrade i cannot boot the system
[02:09] <orbin> Kane666: yes you could say that
[02:09] <Kane666> orbin: thanks for the info ;)
[02:09] <orbin> Kane666: i suggest you install both and try them
[02:09] <linux_galore> gnomefreak: desktop icons are pretty cool
[02:09] <orbin> Kane666: or at least look at screenshots
[02:09] <gnomefreak> eh im not big on desktop icons ;)
[02:09] <pvd> gnome freak so I guess I would just sudo apt-get install egnome
[02:09] <orbin> Kane666: there's also xfce, fluxbox, enlightenment....
[02:09] <gnomefreak> they remind me of windoze
[02:09] <Kane666> orbin: ill just look at screenshots.. i cant be botherd playing around with the system. Im not prepared to fix it lol
[02:10] <gnomefreak> pvd: no you need to install enlightenment
[02:10] <orbin> Kane666: well, to install kde, you just grab one "metapackage"
[02:10] <orbin> Kane666: then you log out, and kde will be available to log into
[02:10] <pvd> Gnomefreak, I see. should I install the breezy badger version?
[02:10] <Kane666> orbin: whats hat?
[02:10] <Kane666> *that
[02:10] <samuli> orbin, that doesn't mean it couldn't break things up :)
[02:10] <Kane666> orbin: oh so i select what i want to log in to..
[02:10] <Tidus> Kane666: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:11] <gnomefreak> pvd: yeah nothing wrong with that version
[02:11] <mustard5> Kane666, install with aptitude rather than apt-get
[02:11] <gnomefreak> Kane666: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop please
[02:11] <Tidus> Kane666: it can coincide with the standard 'ubuntu-desktop'
[02:11] <samuli> kane666, use aptitude instead of apt-get
[02:11] <orbin> samuli: true :)
[02:11] <Kane666> how big is the file.. im on dial-up
[02:11] <samuli> that way you can remove it as easily.
[02:11] <samuli> haha :)
[02:11] <mustard5> Kane666, its not small :)
[02:11] <gnomefreak> Kane666: using aptitude this way if you dont like it aptitude will get rid of most if not all package with it
[02:12] <samuli> kane, try sudo aptitude install kde-core then perhaps.
[02:12] <BlueEagle> tidus: "coexist"?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> when you remove it
[02:12] <mustard5> Kane666, you could probably leave it overnight
[02:12] <Minty> am reading all chat as a newbie running ubuntu can I just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:12] <linux_galore> installed SuSE 10.1 today, not bad, I like the package manager UI
[02:12] <gnomefreak> samuli: why would he want kde-core?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> that leaves him to install things needed by hand
[02:12] <samuli> gnomefreak, because he's on dial-up and wants to see what kde is like.
[02:12] <Kane666> mustard: nah i cant do that coz then i have to leave the other computer on (network server) and my dad wont like that lol
[02:12] <mustard5> Minty, it workes better with aptitude instead of apt-get, because that makes it easier to uninstall
[02:12] <gnomefreak> eh dial up :(
[02:12] <mustard5> Kane666,
[02:13] <linux_galore> theres a kde-lite thing in the works
[02:13] <mustard5> Kane666, k
[02:13] <a2a18> putos
[02:13] <samuli> kubuntu-desktop is something like 150-200mb worth of packages and kde-core is something like 40mb
[02:13] <pvd> Now installing enlightment,well see how this works
[02:13] <Minty> nwbie quetio whats apptitude
[02:13] <mustard5> Kane666, the way I did it was to go to my brothers place and download kubuntu install CD, then I added the Kubuntu CD to my sources
[02:13] <ArtistAgent> Hello All
[02:14] <linux_galore> pvd you should try get e17, its snots on e16
[02:14] <Kane666> mustard5: yeh good idea.. i might give it a try next time im at a broadband terminal ;)
[02:14] <pvd> hmm
[02:14] <pvd> I already installed it
[02:14] <pvd> lol
[02:14] <valehru> Is there anyway to install an RPM in ubuntu?
[02:14] <dot618> lol+1
[02:14] <pvd> ill just try it real quick to see how it works
[02:14] <samuli> e17 is buggy like hell.
[02:14] <linux_galore> pvd e16 is a bit slow and missing heaps of stuff thats in e17
[02:14] <avu> valehru: you can convert the rpm to a deb with alien
[02:14] <mustard5> valehru, you can try using the alien command..
[02:15] <gnomefreak> valehru: you rather not use rpms in ubuntu
[02:15] <pvd> now since I installed englightment
[02:15] <dot618> is e17 out?
[02:15] <pvd> I just open up a different session
[02:15] <pvd> ?
[02:15] <linux_galore> samuli: been running e17 in Vector Linux now for 6 months
[02:15] <samuli> dot, nope :)
[02:15] <gnomefreak> valehru: what are you wanting to install?
[02:15] <valehru> have a version of maya that only has rpms
[02:15] <dot618> so bad
[02:15] <linux_galore> samuli: its been very stable for the last 9 weeks
[02:15] <samuli> linux_galore, I have tried it from time to time with daily cvs-builds, and most of it still doesn't work.-
[02:15] <gnomefreak> !alien
[02:15] <ubotu> it has been said that alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[02:15] <Tidus> my main machine's running gnome 2.14 on gentoo
[02:15] <gnomefreak> ^^^ valehru
[02:16] <hulk> how can u tell what u running dapper breezy unt so wiether ?
[02:16] <valehru> thx
[02:16] <gnomefreak> hulk: lsb_release -a
[02:16] <samuli> but if it's that much better by now I really want to try it out.
[02:16] <hulk> thanx!
[02:16] <gnomefreak> hulk: yw
[02:16] <Nullified> Hi guys, How do i start SSH on linux
[02:16] <pvd> How do you enable enlightment now that it is installed?
[02:16] <Tidus> Nullified: client or server?
[02:16] <samuli> pvd, logout and log in.
[02:17] <pvd> oh ok, thats what I thought
[02:17] <Nullified> server Tidus
[02:17] <pvd> thanks, brb
[02:17] <gnomefreak> pvd: log out and on login screen click sessions than choose enlightenment
[02:17] <linux_galore> pvd you select it in the login screen
[02:17] <samuli> and remember to check session to enlightenment.
[02:17] <asraniel> could someone open that file http://www.fryx.ch/Asraniel/schule/RandomTable.java and tell me if he sees the special characters in the first comment in the code, right at the beginning
[02:17] <hulk> and how u check what kernel u using ?
[02:17] <Tidus> Nullified: on ubuntu, 'sudo aptitude install openssh-server' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start'
[02:17] <avu> hulk: uname -a
[02:17] <Nullified> thanks tidus
[02:17] <hulk> thanx :)
[02:18] <pvd2006> Hmm, when I logged out and I saw the login screen I got a weird scrambled image up at the top of my screen?
[02:18] <pvd2006> Ive had this problem before when I installed kde
[02:19] <pvd2006> anyways, the point is, I can't select a different session since it pushes it out of the screen.
[02:20] <bombero> hi
[02:20] <dot618> lo
[02:20] <asraniel> could someone open that file http://www.fryx.ch/Asraniel/schule/RandomTable.java and tell me if he sees the special characters in the first comment in the code, right at the beginning
[02:21] <bombero> have some problems with and kaffeine, dmesg says:  b2c2-flexcop: B2C2 FlexcopII/II(b)/III digital TV receiver chip loaded successfully
[02:21] <bombero> , but kaffeine: no DVB devices found, what do i wrong ?
[02:22] <hulk> hum i need a bit of advice ... i am trying to make ivtv work (it doesnt) i was using 0.4.0 since that is recomendein in most howtos however i read on ivtvdriver.org that u prolly have to upgrade to 0.4.x if u get a newer card ... but i cant figure out quite wich one to use i am using breezy and (Linux Media 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:22] <hulk> ) please someone advice me ?
[02:23] <linux_galore> bombero: kaffeine is a media player not a front end to a video card
[02:23] <linux_galore> bombero: point kaffeine at a file and it will play it
[02:24] <hulk> shuld i use 0.4.5 for kernels <= 2.5.15 ? is that safe ?
[02:24] <bombero> linux_galore, and for what has kaffeine "Go!" menu and DVB-Item ?
[02:25] <pvd2006> now, that was just weird. I logged out and started enlightment session and it was a blue screen with no options to use menus or anything.
[02:25] <pvd2006> blue/grey screen
[02:25] <Tidus> pvd, enlightenment's menu system is bound to the mouse buttons
[02:25] <Tidus> left click on the desktop for the user menu
[02:26] <pvd2006> the default theme, is horrible btw, lol
[02:26] <pvd2006> thanks
[02:26] <pvd2006> anyways, I am just trying to run gnome with the enlightment file manager
[02:26] <pvd2006> Gnomefreak, are you still here?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> yep
[02:27] <Tidus> pvd2006: right click for the config menu, or mash the mouse wheel in to get to a menu that combines the two
[02:27] <Tidus> pvd2006: as for a light file manager, the rox-filer works quite well
[02:28] <pvd2006> Tidus, how do setup rox-filer as default
[02:28] <Nullified> any command line based IRC clients?
[02:28] <void^> irssi
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Nullified: irssi,bitchx
[02:28] <gnomefreak> among alot of others
[02:28] <Tidus> pvd2006: that i don't know
[02:28] <Nullified> apt-get irssi ?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Nullified: nope its already installed
[02:29] <gnomefreak> Nullified: commmand line type irssi
[02:29] <Nullified> awsome!
[02:29] <pvd2006> brb
[02:29] <Nullified> when it says change channel with ^X is that ctrl x?
[02:30] <Tidus> yep
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Nullified: yep
[02:30] <Tidus> or you can hit ALT+<the number of the window>
[02:30] <IRSSI^Nullified> w00000
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Nullified: ctrl+n will change windows for you
[02:31] <Nullified> right, Thanks guys, now im off to work, to listen to people about their Internet problems and then...chat on IRC instead of talking to them...
[02:31] <thoreauputic> IRSSI^Nullified: or use ctrl + P ctrl + n
[02:31] <Nullified> thanks all
[02:31] <void^> irc as root users may get shot every now and then
[02:32] <dot618> oh
[02:32] <dot618> what's root?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> !root
[02:32] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:32] <thoreauputic> dot618: the admin user ( "super user"
[02:32] <linux_galore> bombero: try kdetv -> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11602
[02:32] <dot618> really?
[02:33] <dot618> someone told me in the bsd, root is not so powerful
[02:33] <bombero> linux_galore, ok, thanx
[02:33] <thoreauputic> dot618: they told you wrong :)
[02:33] <dot618> o.o
[02:33] <pvd2006> lol
[02:33] <Tidus> on unix period, applications are set up so that you should never need root access to run them
[02:33] <pvd2006> what is more powerful than root?
[02:33] <dot618> uid 0?
[02:33] <Tidus> you should only go root if osmething's broke and you gotta fix it
[02:33] <thoreauputic> dot618: yup
[02:33] <Tidus> and on linux, UID 0 = root
[02:34] <dot618> hehe
[02:34] <linux_galore> dot618: root is root
[02:34] <pvd2006> so there is a even higher access on bsd than root?
[02:34] <pvd2006> that doesnt make sense
[02:34] <dot618> god?
[02:34] <linux_galore> although you can get kernel patched to restrict root
[02:34] <rab> i need help installing a perl module
[02:34] <thoreauputic> pvd2006: nothing is higher than root on *nix
[02:34] <linux_galore> patches*
[02:35] <pvd2006> that what I thought, lol
[02:35] <pvd2006> I was about to say
[02:35] <dot618> god > root
[02:35] <thoreauputic> dot618: only just ;)
[02:35] <dot618> hahaha
[02:35] <dot618> or... NSA>
[02:35] <linux_galore> there are a few tools that one can setup so if root access is gained very little can be done that will stuff up the system
[02:35] <dot618> NSA/CIA something
[02:36] <dot618> NSA > god > root
[02:36] <Tidus> linux_galore: like grsec2 or selinux
[02:36] <pvd2006> god = root:)
[02:36] <dot618> no, god ~= NSA
[02:36] <thoreauputic> dot618: nah, you can't have evil > god ;-)
[02:36] <dot618> NSA is evil
[02:36] <thoreauputic> dot618: that was my point indeed
[02:37] <pvd2006> BTW I wonder what OS NASA uses
[02:37] <linux_galore> Tidus: yeah theres another one that does that, been around for a while too also has a built IDS, LIDS!  bingo thats it
[02:37] <pvd2006> im guessing some type of unix
[02:37] <gymsmoke> hey, all
[02:37] <dot618> if you install their hardware crypto cpu
[02:37] <dot618> "hacking in the cpu" hehehehe
[02:38] <linux_galore> LIDS = Linux Intrussion Detection System  even has a kernel patch to define when a remote root login will be banned ie they try shutdown the webserver the remote machine get banned
[02:38] <pvd2006> too bad  software for pcs isnt written as well as programs like NASA, with barely any bugs:)
[02:38] <pvd2006> for NASA*
[02:39] <gymsmoke> i'm running 5.10 as a server, and yesterday for some reason, for about 3 or 4 minutes, mail, apache, dns, and ssh seemed to be "unavailable", but i could still ftp into the box from the commandline.  I got the NOC to reboot the box, but couldn't find any traces in the logs of errant activity... could this have been a hardware glitch of some kind ?
[02:39] <linux_galore> Linux Intrussion Detection System(LIDS)restricts the uncontrolled use of the root login on a system thus protecting mission critical services.
[02:39] <dot618> linux_galore, except the NSA?
[02:39] <linux_galore> dot618: nothing to do with the NSA
[02:39] <thoreauputic> pvd2006: http://flightlinux.gsfc.nasa.gov/
[02:39] <rab> can someone help me install a perl module
[02:40] <dot618> linux_galore, are you sure? (openssl/ssh)
[02:40] <dot618> linux_galore, +des
[02:40] <linux_galore> dot618: LIDS was created by a group of Australians
[02:40] <dot618> hahaha
[02:40] <thoreauputic> dot618: openssh is a BSD thing ( used in linux as well of course)
[02:40] <dot618> USA asked the prison at au also
[02:41] <Tidus> i wish my router would hurry up and restart DNSMasq.
[02:41] <linux_galore> the sel stuff has no IDS, but lids does
[02:41] <Tidus> temporary failures in name resolutions kinda bites.
[02:41] <linux_galore> sel is more a system hardening hack were LIDS is a pro active security tool
[02:42] <dot618> which is the best IDS what you know?
[02:43] <dot618> nobody knows?
[02:43] <linux_galore> dot618: LIDS is pretty good but you have to path your kernel
[02:43] <dot618> mm
[02:43] <linux_galore> patch*
[02:43] <aditya> excude me
[02:44] <jenda> How can I ssh connect with a live CD session?
[02:44] <dot618> can I patch the bsd kernel with LIDS?
[02:44] <dot618> :(
[02:44] <aditya> any body can apt-get via wireless network?
[02:44] <linux_galore> jenda: what Live CD
[02:44] <pequatre> testing
[02:44] <pequatre> hello
[02:45] <jenda> linux_galore: UBuntu, both sessions
[02:45] <dot618> ack
[02:45] <thoreauputic> jenda: if you mean another session connecting to the live CD, you need to install openssh server on the live session - the other way is not a problem
[02:45] <aditya> live cd is a cd to run ubuntu without installing them
[02:45] <jenda> thoreauputic: OK - won't it be too much trouble to install that on the live session?
[02:45] <linux_galore> jenda: usually its   ssh  joebloggs@192.168.2.whatever
[02:45] <pequatre> wassup guys ?
[02:45] <dot618> nothing
[02:45] <thoreauputic> jenda: no - jsut sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:46] <thoreauputic> jenda: you can install with apt on the live CD
[02:46] <Doat> i followed the guide to make firestarter startup automatically when logging in as a normal user but when i do 'sudo firestarter' after modifying /etc/sudoers i get this error: (firestarter:11617): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:46] <pequatre> kewl. actually i'm testing my being behind a proxy (SOCKS5). seems ok. cheers :)
[02:46] <dot618> is SOCKS still alive?
[02:46] <dot618> o.o
[02:46] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: yeah but you dont need the ssh server the client is already there
[02:46] <jenda> thoreauputic: OK thanks - it's already downloading - I just wasn't sure the Live CD manages installing SW, since it has no HDD...
[02:47] <thoreauputic> Doat: you don't need to do that - firestarter runs on boot, you just don't see the GUI
[02:47] <dot618> NAT > SOCKS
[02:47] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: that's why I said "the other way isn't a problem"
[02:47] <Doat> thoreauputic, oh? it does that by default?
[02:47] <linux_galore> jenda: you trying to login the the machine running the Live CD or login to another machine from the one running the Live CD
[02:47] <thoreauputic> Doat: look at /etc/init.d/firestarter :)
[02:47] <dot618> lol
[02:48] <thoreauputic> Doat: the firestarter GUI is just for admin etc
[02:48] <jenda> linux_galore: never mind - it should work now. I'm trying to connect from an installed session to a live one.
[02:48] <linux_galore> jenda: yeah need to install the server, runs in ram on the virtual disk
[02:49] <Doat> thoreauputic, how come 'ps aux | grep firestarter' only shows 'grep firestarter' then?
[02:49] <jenda> thanks, linux_galore, thoreauputic
[02:49] <thoreauputic> Doat: firestarter is just an iptables configuration tool
[02:49] <Enchanter>  i just removed win xp from my hda2. i had fedora core 5 on hda1. but now when i reboot it says "error loading operating system" can this be fixed?
[02:50] <Doat> thoreauputic, ok.
[02:50] <Doat> thanks
[02:50] <thoreauputic> Doat: if you do an online test of your firewall, you'll see that it is working already
[02:50] <linux_galore> Doat: firestarter isnt the firewall, Linux has a firewall built in, firestarter is just a lazy config/admin tool for the Linux built in firewall
[02:51] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: rather a good one IMO :)
[02:51] <pvd2006> is there a way to get gnome to run without the desktop, as in just like a screen with nothing on it but if you want to run a program you can press alt + f2 to run a command?
[02:51] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: kmyfirewall is far more extensive
[02:51] <Doat> yep. i get it now
[02:51] <jenda> thoreauputic: but how is it done with logging in et al? What username and password should I use?
[02:51] <thoreauputic> pvd2006: erm, you really want just X for that
[02:52] <pvd2006> Thorauputic
[02:52] <pvd2006> I see
[02:52] <pvd2006> how would you run X by it self
[02:52] <thoreauputic> jenda: ah, that I don't know - unless you make a new user on the live CD session
[02:53] <jenda> thoreauputic: and is that advisable? Seems weird...
[02:53] <thoreauputic> jenda: the default user is ubuntu, but I don't think it has a password..
[02:53] <thoreauputic> jenda: making a new user isn't a risk
[02:53] <thoreauputic> jenda: sudo adduser jenda
[02:54] <dot618> jenda, do you know how ssh works?
[02:54] <jenda> hmm, OK
[02:54] <jenda> dot618: only the basics
[02:54] <rab> can someone help me install a perl module
[02:54] <dot618> jenda, do you have the signtures?
[02:54] <jenda> of what?
[02:54] <dot618> jenda, both of them?
[02:54] <BlueEagle> rab: sudo aptitude install perl-modulename
[02:54] <BlueEagle> rab: in most cases.
[02:54] <rab> I did it
[02:55] <dot618> jenda, machines
[02:55] <BlueEagle> rab: for more spesific help we'll need to know _which_ perl module you need installed.
[02:55] <rab> BlueEagle,but i recieve errors trying to use it
[02:55] <linux_galore> jenda: if you have kde installed you can use konqueror to access ssh, just type  fish://192.168.you.know.the.rest
[02:55] <rab> BlueEagle, NET::IRC
[02:55] <jenda> dot618: err... i have access to both PCs, if I can get them that way.
[02:56] <dot618> jenda, :(
[02:56] <linux_galore> jenda: or even type in konqueror  fish://james-bond@192.2.whatever
[02:57] <jenda> dot618: sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. I just installed openssh-server on the LiveCD - don't tell me there's something I should know before that?
[02:57] <BlueEagle> rab: "Welcome to Net::IRC, a work in progress. First intended to be a quick tool for writing an IRC script in Perl, Net::IRC has grown into a comprehensive Perl implementation of the IRC protocol (RFC 1459), developed by several members of the EFnet IRC channel #perl, and maintained in channel #net-irc."
[02:57] <dot618> jenda, do you know how to generate a key?
[02:57] <BlueEagle> rab: Since this is a "work in progress" I don't think it's in the repos. Have a look at http://search.cpan.org/~jeek/Net-IRC-0.73/IRC.pm
[02:57] <g0dchild> are there any packages for xmms?
[02:57] <g0dchild> !xmms
[02:57] <ubotu> I heard xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[02:57] <jenda> What key? No, I probably don't. dot618, I never needed to for communication between 2 installed Ubuntus
[02:58] <jenda> ssh communication.
[02:58] <rab> BlueEagle, http://24.154.232.113:8008/error/
[02:58] <linux_galore> xmms is gettting a bit crusty these days
[02:58] <thoreauputic> jenda: you can use passwords - keys are an extra thing (convenient and secure, but not required)
[02:59] <thoreauputic> !info beep-media-player
[02:59] <ubotu> beep-media-player: (Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 3588 kB
[02:59] <gary> I'm having some big problems trying to install mplayer.  I get 3 dependency errors on: libfaad2-0, liblame0 and libxvidcore4.  All of which it says they are not installable.  Any ideas how I get around this?
[03:00] <pvd2006> gary, I have a guide that works well
[03:00] <thoreauputic> gary:  all the deps shoud be OK if yu have universe and multiverse
[03:00] <mustard5> gary, do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[03:00] <gary> thoreauputic: I have both I think, I'll just check
[03:00] <linux_galore> gary: ?? you using apt-get or are you just trying to install the mplayer package you downloaded
[03:00] <gary> apt-get
[03:01] <thoreauputic> gary: and of course don't forget to update
[03:01] <pvd2006> gary, step by step guide on getting mplayer installed, but its for the source code version not binary.
[03:01] <linux_galore> gary: yeah need to add universe and multi
[03:01] <gary> yes, using both uni and multi
[03:01] <gary> eb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe multiverse
[03:01] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-586
[03:01] <gary> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[03:01] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[03:01] <mustard5> gary, run sudo apt-get update ?
[03:01] <gary> Yep, done that
[03:01] <linux_galore> gary: I just installed the libs then built mplayer from source
[03:01] <mustard5> gary, its a mystery :)
[03:01] <gary> hmm
[03:02] <pvd2006> building mplayer from source is a lot better I think, it seems to work a lot better that way.
[03:02] <linux_galore> gary: less hassle
[03:02] <gary> I have security.ubuntu.com - is that right?
[03:02] <gary> oh right
[03:02] <rab> BlueEagle, http://24.154.232.113:8008/error/
[03:02] <gary> I'll try that then
[03:02] <gary> thanks
[03:02] <pvd2006> gary, I have a guide
[03:02] <gary> oh yes
[03:02] <gary> That'd be useful
[03:02] <mustard5> gary, actually that line is not enough for universe and multiverse
[03:02] <gary> where is it
[03:02] <gary> I have deb-src too
[03:02] <rab> BlueEagle, Its in the repos andi compiled it from source
[03:02] <pvd2006> gary, http://johnvansickle.com/mplayer is the one I used.
[03:02] <thoreauputic> !repos
[03:02] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:03] <mustard5> gary, the second line you posted is missing multiverse too
[03:04] <bosco> The_DaVinci_Code_Unabridged_mp3_audio_book_(Dan_Brown).rar     i downloaded this file now how do i unzip it or "UNRAR IT"
[03:04] <linux_galore> although I never use mplayer anymore I just use kaffeine
[03:04] <NoUse> !tell bosco about rar
[03:04] <gary> yay
[03:04] <gary> I got it working
[03:04] <gary> mustard5: I think it was because I had only: .... breezy universe on the first lines
[03:04] <linux_galore> bosco: need to install unrar
[03:04] <pvd2006> thats good:)
[03:04] <gary> but ont he second I had both universe and multiverse
[03:05] <thoreauputic> bosco: whoever put an mp3 in a rar is brain dead - install unrar-nonfree
[03:05] <mustard5> gary, yep
[03:05] <bosco> lol
[03:05] <gary> Now I can watch videos in work without people calling it a "Mickey Mouse OS"
[03:05] <bosco> thoreauputic, i relize that not my prob
[03:05] <pvd2006> well I got one .txt file in a .rar before
[03:05] <pvd2006> :)
[03:05] <mustard5> gary, hehe
[03:05] <thoreauputic> bosco: :)
[03:05] <Tidus> gary: lol
[03:05] <bosco> lol
[03:06] <gary> I enjoyed the moment watching one of them re-format an xp machine, they actually booted kubuntu and asked for my help mounting the drives :D
[03:06] <timeless> i'm looking for a way to browse a specific debian repository
[03:06] <thoreauputic> pvd2006: at least that makes more sense, since text is very compressable
[03:06] <linux_galore> timeless: just use a browser
[03:06] <timeless> i understand that there's a packages or sources gz file, but i was hoping there'd be some tool that would let me pick a repository and show it in some more human readbale format
[03:07] <thoreauputic> timeless: don't use debian repos with ubuntu unless you like breaking things
[03:07] <linux_galore> timeless: of use apt-cache
[03:07] <bosco> thoreauputic, so how do i UNZIP it "UNRAR IT"
[03:07] <linux_galore> bosco: unrar filename.rar
[03:07] <thoreauputic> bosco: "unrar" if I recall correctly
[03:07] <timeless> thoreauputic: i kind of absolutely need various pacakges which are only available from certain repositories
[03:07] <thoreauputic> timeless: such as?
[03:07] <timeless> and i'm willing to deal w/ broken ubuntu
[03:08] <bosco> thoreauputic, unrar doesnt work that is what i tried the first time
[03:08] <linux_galore> or just add unrar to fileroller
[03:08] <thoreauputic> timeless: oh OK - have fun :)
[03:08] <timeless> thoreauputic: corporate internal binaries/sources
[03:08] <thoreauputic> bosco: unrar-nonfree is the package I think
[03:08] <timeless> someone must have decided .debs were a better way of going than something else
[03:08] <linux_galore> bosco: type  file  filename.rar
[03:08] <timeless> so, the documentation i found mentioned Contents.gz and Sources.gz
[03:08] <timeless> is that right?
[03:08] <linux_galore> bosco: should tell you what file type it really is
[03:09] <pvd2006> how do you enable anti-aliasing on fonts in KDE?
[03:09] <bosco> linux_galore, it is a .RAR file
[03:09] <linux_galore> bosco: just type the first three characters of the filename then hit tab it will auto complete the name for you
[03:10] <bosco> linux_galore, it is .RAR
[03:10] <linux_galore> bosco: well use unrar then, always works for me
[03:10] <NoUse> !rar
[03:10] <ubotu> I heard rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[03:10] <bosco> linux_galore, i have used unar before and for some reason it is not working for m e
[03:10] <thoreauputic> bosco: did you install unrar-nonfree as I suggested twice ?
[03:10] <chripher> !flash
[03:10] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:11] <bosco> thoreauputic, synaptic
[03:11] <thoreauputic> bosco: the standard unrar sometimes doesn't do the job
[03:11] <Minty> in xchat how do I get all the text in the same colour except mine
[03:11] <thoreauputic> !info unrar-nonfree
[03:11] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[03:11] <coz_> new dapper usplash freaked me tred how tos to change it now have no usplash any suggestions
[03:11] <bosco> thoreauputic,  i installed all i need to trust me
[03:12] <linux_galore> theres also an official binary unrar one for rar files
[03:12] <thoreauputic> bosco: and the "file" command outputs what?  " file yourfile.rar" ?
[03:12] <linux_galore> made by the same people who created the rar compression tool
[03:12] <linux_galore> for Linux
[03:13] <bosco> a bunch of help stuff like i didnt type it is right like stuff like -a how to do this
[03:13] <bosco> when you dont type in all the argument
[03:13] <bosco> s
[03:13] <bosco> to your command
[03:13] <NoUse> bosco you can just use the archive manager in gnome
[03:13] <thoreauputic> bosco: jsut type  file yourfile.rar
[03:14] <bosco> NoUse,  if i still used gnome i would be in good shape i use E17
[03:14] <sj`> hi guys, I am using breezy, i got a wireless card today which uses the atheros chipset, dmesg and lspci list the crd as functioning without any problems, however the lights are not on on the card. I'm using the madwifi drivers. Any ideas what could be wrong?
[03:14] <linux_galore> theres another rar one called  norar
[03:15] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[03:15] <ubotu> I heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:15] <bosco> linux_galore,  0k then how do i unrar that one
[03:15] <sj`> thnx
[03:16] <linux_galore> bosco: I usually just avoid downloading rar file there usually done by idiots who runs windows and dont realise there wasting everyones time by trying to compress a file thats already compressed
[03:17] <bosco> linux_galore, i relize that i am not the dumby here i am just not used to .RAR files and when i have used them before i have no prob lol   (:
[03:18] <h_> #join
[03:18] <Minty> is it easy to update xchat as i have 2005 version ?
[03:18] <h_> join
[03:18] <linux_galore> bosco: well I usually just tell fileroller to use unrar when I click on any file that has the rar extension
[03:19] <h_> how to install Chinese characters?
[03:19] <Seantater> h_: I think you can just choose a different font
[03:19] <NoUse> bosco install xarchiver, its a nice light-weight GUI for rar
[03:19] <linux_galore> bosco: when it asks what to use to open a rar file when you click on it just tell it to use fileroller, when file roller opens just tell it to use unrar, make sure the settings are saved as you do it
[03:19] <Seantater> h_: Ithought dsome fonts had them -- they hacve everything else
[03:20] <h_> im Chinese,sorry
[03:20] <linux_galore> bosco: so the next time you click on a rar folder it does everything automatically
[03:21] <visik7> h_: but have u choose chinese when Installing ?
[03:21] <linux_galore> file sorry not folder
[03:21] <h_> yes ,i have.
[03:21] <g0dchild> Hi, i cant load xine-lib on amarok
[03:21] <gary> Ok, another problem. Trying to execute realplayer and get this error:
[03:21] <gary> /usr/bin/realplayer: line 5: exec: /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay: cannot execute: No such file or directory
[03:21] <g0dchild> reinstalling xinelib1c2 doesnt solve the problem
[03:21] <g0dchild> can anyone please help?
[03:21] <_jason> gary: how did you install it?
[03:22] <linux_galore> gary: means realplayer isnt installed
[03:22] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: insatll amarok-xine and select the engine in amarok
[03:22] <thoreauputic> *install
[03:22] <linux_galore> type ls -l /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay   bet it shows nothing
[03:22] <gary> hmmm
[03:22] <alvaro> tremulous: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open sh <--- In AMD64, what do I have to do?
[03:22] <g0dchild> thoreauputic, amarok-xine is already the newest version.
[03:23] <h_> may i update the kernel from 5.04 to 5.10 online?please
[03:23] <gary> _jason: I can't remember to be honest.  I have the .bin file here but I'm having an error when executing it - dependency on libstdc++.so.5
[03:23] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: then go to the configuration for amarok and select the xine engine, restart amarok
[03:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell gary about realplayer
[03:23] <NoUse> !tell h_ about upgrade
[03:24] <g0dchild> thoreauputic, it might be an amarok bug- let me test kaffeine
[03:24] <gary> thanks _jason
[03:24] <linux_galore> gary: you need to install the old version of libstddc++
[03:24] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: works here (tm)
[03:24] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: is this dapper?
[03:24] <linux_galore> gary: its an old package
[03:24] <g0dchild> no, breezy
[03:25] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: well, amarok-xine works here on breezy
[03:25] <h_> is it right like this: apt-get install linux-686 ?
[03:25] <linux_galore> gary: lots of binary apps have that problem they dont keep the things up_to_date so you need to install the old gcc dependencies
[03:25] <g0dchild> I tried to install from source too- yeah- not an easy one i suppose
[03:25] <thoreauputic> h_: add sudo at the beginning, but yes
[03:25] <mustard5> h_, 5.04 and 5.10 are different versions of ubuntu not kernel versions
[03:25] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: why did you do that?
[03:26] <h_> i login as rot ,thanks
[03:26] <thoreauputic> h_: heh - I hope "rot" was a typo ;)
[03:26] <h_> so,how do i update ?must i use the CD?
[03:26] <g0dchild> thoreauputic, since i installed the new release of amarok (1.3.8), i thought i might need to install xinelibs from source
[03:26] <gary> linux_galore: well I instlled libstdc++5, and re-ran the .bin file and it installed, but when trying to execuite it I still receive the same errors
[03:26] <g0dchild> thoreauputic, no good?
[03:27] <h_> sorry,root is correct
[03:27] <linux_galore> gary: I have about 3 versions of libstdc++ installed to I can run some old binary only commercial apps
[03:27] <linux_galore> s/to/so/
[03:27] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: ah, you have a library mismatch I guess then
[03:27] <_jason> gary: use the deb
[03:27] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: did it compile?
[03:27] <chripher> !flsh
[03:27] <ubotu> chripher: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:27] <chripher> !flash
[03:27] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:28] <h_> how to join the channel of chinese chat on ubuntu
[03:28] <g0dchild> thoreauputic, yeah- according to dpkg it did.
[03:28] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: umm - you used dpkg-buildpackage or something ?
[03:28] <nullifie1> Hey all!
[03:28] <g0dchild> no- from apt-get source
[03:28] <nullifie1> Thanks who ever helped me today getting IRSSI to work
[03:29] <gary> yay, it works
[03:29] <gary> almost too easy
[03:29] <gary> No tears, no broken keyboard and no headache
[03:29] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: well, I don't know - did you run sudo apt-get build-dep first ?
[03:29] <frosty_badfish> anyone familiar with changin keyboad layout ?
[03:29] <IRC> hi
[03:29] <g0dchild> thoreauputic, i had no idea. :(
[03:30] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: oh
[03:30] <g0dchild> can i restore it to my old setttings?
[03:30] <idP> a qs please
[03:30] <g0dchild> thoreauputic, -all i did was: apt-get source libxine1c2
[03:30] <mustard5> !zh
[03:30] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.
[03:30] <piernik> I've compiled  acpi module  from sources  sourceforge/acpi4asus I do ls -l and I see the file but when I try modeprobe I get  FATAL: Module  ...not found. What's wrong?!
[03:30] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: sudo apt-get install apt-howto
[03:30] <spectei> how do i get extra modules for my kernel in ubuntu dapper
[03:30] <spectei> i'm looking specifically for 3con 3c575
[03:30] <spectei> and the xfs filesystem
[03:30] <frosty_badfish> i've tried kbdconfig but that only works without the xserver
[03:30] <mustard5> h_, try #ubuntu-zh
[03:30] <idP> how can I know servers running and to stop them ?
[03:30] <idP> anyone knows ?
[03:31] <linux_galore> piernik: did you rebuilt the kernel
[03:31] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: you should have run sudo apt-get build-dep amarok at least
[03:31] <spectei> also how can i find the default ubuntu kernel .config file
[03:31] <johannes__> hi room
[03:31] <spectei> as it doesn't have /proc/config.gz enabled
[03:31] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: you are doing it the hard way :)
[03:31] <johannes__> 
[03:31] <johannes__>  can so help me? i tried google without getting smarter
[03:31] <johannes__> 
[03:31] <johannes__>  i wanna copy konquerors bookmark.xml file to firefox (it uses a file called bookmark.html) . firefox and konqui should have same bookmarks
[03:32] <thoreauputic> johannes__: DON'T paste
[03:32] <johannes__> yes
[03:32] <idP> is there a gui app that enables me to now which servers running on my box and gives the ability to stop them
[03:32] <johannes__> sorry
[03:32] <linux_galore> johannes__: why should they ??
[03:32] <piernik> the funny thing is I have asus acpi suport buil in kernel I've noticed after compiling
[03:32] <spectei> idP, not that i'm aware of
[03:32] <spectei> idP, look at /etc/inetd.conf
[03:32] <johannes__> i have bad lappie (celeron)
[03:32] <idP> ok
[03:32] <g0dchild> heh. yeah...i really wish I'd known about this earlier- but since everyone was using apt-get i thought I couldnt possibly do much harm..so long as i keep away from dpkg...anywhose, i'll sinstall that apt-howto and see through it. thanks
[03:32] <spectei> idP, and /etc/init.d/
[03:32] <johannes__> konqueror needs too long to load
[03:33] <idP> ok will do
[03:33] <piernik> I get in logs  Asus ACPI: Error reading LCD status and I don't know how to fix it
[03:33] <linux_galore> johannes__: you can set konqueror to preload
[03:33] <NoUse> johannes__ go into the bookmark editor in konqueror, File -> Export -> Export to Mozilla
[03:33] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: when it is instaled, type apt-howto and it should open in firefox
[03:33] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: the same doc is on the debian.org website
[03:34] <g0dchild> thoreauputic, am running apt-get build-dep amarok
[03:34] <johannes__> @linuxgalore: is this the same as to move it into the autostart folder?
[03:34] <linux_galore> johannes__: do you mean slow to load a page or slow to start up
[03:34] <thoreauputic> g0dchild: OK - good luck :)
[03:35] <johannes__> slow to start up @linux_galore. once its loaded its fast
[03:35] <linux_galore> johannes__: no kde can be told to pre cache konqueror so when you open a file or want to open a link it starts really fast
[03:35] <h_> mustard5: thank you
[03:35] <johannes__> @linux_galore how would i do that?
[03:35] <mustard5> h_, np
[03:35] <frosty_badfish> how can I change my keyboard layout?
[03:36] <h_> mustard5: sorry,but how to join?
[03:36] <jacob_> Hello!
[03:36] <feugan3333> Hi. Does anyone know how to setup a local package repository?
[03:36] <ramvi> I can't get into X :( I've been trying to get Xgl to work. And I did some changes to /etc/kde3/kdm/<the config file>. Thought I removed my changes. But now I'm sent to shell as I start my pc. When I try to /etc/init.d/kdm restart it starts X and shows the loading cuorser for about 10 secs and I'm sent back to shell. Same thing happens if I try to start gnome. What do I do? Thanks in advance!
[03:36] <mustard5> h_ type /join #ubuntu-zh
[03:37] <h_> mustard5: thanks ,bye
[03:37] <ramvi> I've tried reconfiguring kdm, kde-core, xserver-xorg, xserver-xgl...
[03:38] <johannes__> @linux_galore is this preload an instance after kde-startup?
[03:38] <jacob_> how do i set up ndisgtk... i have the drivers on my desktop and i have it installed... what else should i do?!
[03:38] <mustard5> h_, good luck
[03:39] <Akg> Hi, linux newb here... I'm trying to burn an ISO, but GnomeBaker puts this up: "Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)"
[03:39] <johannes__> @NoUse i cannot finde the menu file in konqueror. sorry
[03:39] <Akg> similar things happen with other programs
[03:39] <linux_galore> johannes__:  open konqueror (click on the home icon) then click on the Settings Menu up the top -> Configure Konqueror -> look down the left hand window for "Performance"  click on that
[03:39] <johannes__> i did@linux_galore
[03:40] <linux_galore> johannes__: mark preload
[03:40] <linux_galore> johannes__: I usually set it to 2
[03:40] <johannes__> ok yes
[03:40] <jacob_> how do i set up ndisgtk... i have the drivers on my desktop and i have it installed... what else should i do?!
[03:40] <johannes__> @linux_galore should i tick always keep one instance preloaded?
[03:41] <linux_galore> johannes__: now when you start kde two version of konqueror are already loaded
[03:41] <satempler> jacob_: goto system > admin > networking
[03:41] <linux_galore> johannes__: yes I set it to 2 preloaded
[03:41] <jacob_> satempler: ok, but that does not have my wireless card on it
[03:41] <satempler> jacob_: configure your card there
[03:41] <jacob_> satempler: wifi card is not on there
[03:42] <ramvi> I really need some help... What should I reconfigure?
[03:42] <satempler> jacob_: then in a terminal type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:42] <jacob_> ok
[03:42] <linux_galore> johannes__: also turn minimize memory usage off set it to Never
[03:43] <jacob_> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:43] <pvd2006> how would you remove KDE and all the KDE programs it installed
[03:43] <satempler> jacob_: did you do sudo modprobe or just modprobe
[03:43] <johannes__> @linux_galore thank you
[03:43] <pvd2006> like 300 something files I think
[03:43] <jacob_> satempler: sudo modprobe
[03:44] <ramvi> pvd2006: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-base maybe?
[03:44] <satempler> jacob_: type in the console ndiswrapper -l
[03:44] <samuli> pdv2006, how did you install it?
[03:44] <ramvi> :(
[03:44] <pvd2006> samuli, I installed it through synaptic manager
[03:44] <samuli> ach :(
[03:44] <jacob_> satempler, no drivers installed
[03:44] <samuli> there's no easy way to get all of it removed then.
[03:44] <chripher> !flash
[03:44] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:45] <johannes__> @linux_galore its faster thats cool
[03:45] <satempler> jacob_: ok now you have the drivers on the desktop
[03:45] <satempler> right
[03:45] <jacob_> yes
[03:45] <nullifie1>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:45] <nullifie1>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:45] <satempler> unziped
[03:45] <linux_galore> johannes__: Ive got a two year old p4 2.4ghz machine and the file manager (konqueror) open under 1 second
[03:45] <linux_galore> opens*
[03:45] <pvd2006> ah, that sucks, they should of made a way to remove all packages installed with a certain package even if it is seperate if you choose to.
[03:45] <mustard5> pvd2006, did you install using aptitude or apt-get?
[03:45] <satempler> jacob_: are they unziped
[03:45] <pvd2006> mustard5, I use synaptic package manager
[03:45] <samuli> pvd2006, there is. It's called aptitude.
[03:45] <jacob_> satempler: yes, in inf form
[03:46] <mustard5> pvd2006, k...well if you install using aptitude it would do what you wanted it to do
[03:46] <KingLear> Hello All
[03:46] <satempler> you should have 2 files a .sys and .inf
[03:46] <mustard5> pvd2006, bit late now of course
[03:46] <KingLear> I have a seemingly simple question first
[03:46] <jacob_> satempler: i have those too
[03:46] <mustard5> pvd2006, there is a thread on the forums that makes some suggestions on how to do it
[03:46] <thoreauputic> KingLear: how'a Cordelia?
[03:46] <satempler> ok open the ndisgtk thingy
[03:46] <KingLear> after Upgradation of distros, the GRUB shows previous installed kernels as well as the newest updated kernel,
[03:46] <pvd2006> well I guess Ill deselect all the programs that start with K...
[03:46] <mustard5> pvd2006, aysiu started it quite some time back
[03:46] <johannes__> @linux_galore konqui is faster than firefox for you? personally i like konqu much better
[03:47] <samuli> kinglear, yes?
[03:47] <mustard5> pvd2006, that might not work so well :D
[03:47] <ramvi> Anyone know what I have to reconfigure or what I need to do? I've been trying to get Xgl working. And I did some changes to /etc/kde3/kdm/<the config file>. Thought I removed my changes. But now I'm sent to shell as I start my pc. When I try to /etc/init.d/kdm restart it starts X and shows the loading cursor for about 10 secs and I'm sent back to shell. Same thing happens if I try to start gdm. What do I do? Thanks in advance!
[03:47] <HymnToLife> KingLear> yes, and ?
[03:47] <KingLear> can any one tell me how to safely remove the previous ones from showing up in Boot process , and if possible from the PC altogether
[03:47] <jacob_> satempler: i have an inf and a sys
[03:47] <satempler> ok
[03:47] <jacob_> satempler: actually 2 sys
[03:47] <satempler> jacob_: open ndisgtk
[03:47] <linux_galore> johannes__: well konqueror should be faster, firefox has to run a script before it starts up to find all the resources. konqueror doesnt need to its part of the desktop
[03:47] <HymnToLife> KingLear> uninstall them from Synaptic if the new one works fine
[03:47] <samuli> kinglear, just use synaptic or something to remove linux-image-*. that aren't the newest ones.
[03:47] <jacob_> satempler: ok
[03:48] <jacob_> satempler: have it open
[03:48] <mustard5> KingLear, you can edit the menu.lst to remove the old entries
[03:48] <satempler> what are your options
[03:48] <mustard5> KingLear, make a backup first
[03:48] <Seveas> Hello Ubuntupersons!
[03:48] <KingLear> HymnToLife,  how to use synaptic?
[03:48] <ramvi> Heya :)
[03:48] <mustard5> Seveas, greetings :)
[03:48] <samuli> Ubuntu persons, lol.
[03:48] <KingLear> please?
[03:48] <farruinn> Is kismet the only wireless network sniffer available?
[03:48] <LinuxJones> Seveas: welcome
[03:48] <KingLear> new one works fine
[03:49] <samuli> kinglear, start 'synaptic package manager'
[03:49] <satempler> jacob_: what are your options
[03:49] <HymnToLife> KingLear> or from whatever you are unsing to manage packages, just remove the old linux-image
[03:49] <Seveas> KingLear, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:49] <samuli> from the administration menu.
[03:49] <KingLear> i updates via synaptic, HymnToLife
[03:49] <jacob_> satempler: Install network driver
[03:49] <mustard5> KingLear, its always a good idea to leave an old kernel installed
[03:49] <KingLear> updated*
[03:49] <mustard5> KingLear, the come in handy if the new kernel gives you trouble in the future
[03:49] <linux_galore> johannes__: you can actually import the addblock text file from firefox into konqueror
[03:49] <satempler> jacob_: ok click on that
[03:49] <martin__> #ubuntu-es
[03:49] <dfgas> how do i get a user to be able to load a new session
[03:49] <KingLear> mustard5,  wont it occupy extra space?
[03:49] <idefix> can anyone explain what happens when you get "Found a swap file by the name ".webcamrc.swp" ?
[03:49] <mustard5> KingLear, yeah, but not too much space
[03:49] <Seveas> KingLear, ~85MB
[03:49] <idefix> while running vi webcamrc
[03:49] <jacob_> satempler: awsome!
[03:49] <HymnToLife> KingLear> about 40 MB, are you so short on diskspace ?
[03:49] <satempler> jacob_: point it to the .inf
[03:50] <samuli> Seveas, lol. Bot that much.
[03:50] <KingLear> But I have three of them
[03:50] <samuli> *Not
[03:50] <KingLear> the previous ones
[03:50] <Seveas> samuli, including l-r-m it's 85 mb
[03:50] <KingLear> HymnToLife,  no i am not short on diskspace
[03:50] <jacob_> satempler: i have the driver installed now
[03:50] <mustard5> KingLear, k..well you probably have one more than you need :)
[03:50] <linux_galore> johannes__: theres a firefox extension that download a addblock text file, but if you just grab the text file manually you can use that in konqueror
[03:50] <johannes__> @linux_galore i always use konqu before. you prevented me from moving back so why should i?
[03:50] <HymnToLife> then I think you'd better leave them be
[03:50] <thoreauputic> KingLear: then just leave them there...
[03:50] <dfgas> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[03:50] <satempler> ok now you should be able to configure it
[03:50] <Kournikoza> hello. i'm using an IDE compact flash.. but on boot it gives me a driveready seekcomplete error.. and continues with booting, sometimes it hangs because dma timeout, how can i disable dma in the kernel for ide compact flash disks? i also have a fixed sata disk in the box which needs dma.. anyone can help me? i'm using kernel 2.6
[03:50] <jacob_> satempler: i have the driver installed
[03:50] <KingLear> mustard5,  I upgraded from Hoary installation ,
[03:50] <satempler> jacob_: now you should be able to configure it
[03:50] <Akg> I'm trying to burn an ISO, but GnomeBaker puts this up: "Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)". so... how can I burn an Iso?
[03:50] <jacob_> satempler: i don't understand why when i did that before it didn't come up
[03:51] <KingLear> and I have now Three of them on the Grub menu
[03:51] <mustard5> KingLear, just editing the grub menu.lst is enough to make it at least neat and understable for users of the computer
[03:51] <KingLear> when the system starts
[03:51] <satempler> jacob_: no shure
[03:51] <HymnToLife> Akg> use k3b :)
[03:51] <jacob_> satempler: yes, but when i put in the wep key my computer gets all screwy
[03:51] <HymnToLife> !iso
[03:51] <ubotu> it has been said that iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[03:51] <Akg> tried that too, HymnToLife
[03:51] <KingLear> mustard5,  thanx , for the advice,
[03:51] <KingLear> HymnToLife,  thank You as well
[03:51] <KingLear> I have another question
[03:51] <satempler> jacob_: I don't mess with encryption
[03:51] <mustard5> KingLear, yeah...make a backup of /boot/grub/menu.lst  and then edit the menu.lst to remove the old entries
[03:51] <jacob_> satempler: well, my dad doesn't wan't people uploading stuff
[03:51] <jacob_> satempler
[03:51] <samuli> I wouldn't go out and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst if I didn't know what I was doing.
[03:51] <jacob_> oops
[03:51] <HymnToLife> KingLear> !justask ;)
[03:52] <satempler> jacob_: I know I am supposed to have it on but never works for me
[03:52] <Kane666> hey
[03:52] <OlliK> hi
[03:52] <jacob_> satempler: yeah.
[03:52] <Kane666> i was just wondering how do i compile c++ source code in linux?
[03:52] <satempler> jacob_: well
[03:52] <jacob_> satempler: well, bye
[03:52] <samuli> althought removing old entries is pretty easy.
[03:52] <KingLear> Okay
[03:52] <jacob_> satempler: thanks for the help
[03:52] <KingLear> I installed webhttrack
[03:52] <satempler> jacob_: see you can work with it now though
[03:52] <jacob_> satempler: probly
[03:52] <KingLear> and then I installed Firefox 1.5 on Breezy,
[03:53] <johannes__> @linux_galore why would i need that adblock textfile? i have block option in konqu
[03:53] <KingLear> when I try to run webhttrack,
[03:53] <KingLear> it doesnt start,
[03:53] <jacob_> satempler: bye
[03:53] <KingLear> asking me to close the browser that is already running
[03:53] <thoreauputic> !ff1.5
[03:53] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:53] <KingLear> when I close FF 1.5, it refuses to start
[03:53] <ramvi> !!xgl
[03:53] <ubotu> ramvi: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:53] <HackerGates> hi
[03:53] <ramvi> hehe
[03:54] <KingLear> what can I do to make webhttrack work , HymnToLife ? mustard5 ?
[03:54] <Akg> HymnToLife, K3B has this error: "CDrecord has no permission to open this device"
[03:54] <Kane666> does annyone know how to compile a c++ program (that i made) in ubuntu?
[03:54] <mustard5> KingLear, I've never used webhttrack, so I'm no help :)
[03:54] <HackerGates> channel italian
[03:54] <HackerGates> the link?
[03:54] <mustard5> !it
[03:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:54] <hastesaver> Kane666, install gcc
[03:54] <HymnToLife> Akg> are you logged is as another user than the one you created during install ?
[03:54] <Kane666> hastesaver: yeh ive done that
[03:54] <linux_galore> johannes__: ok you can add filters to addblock in both konqueror and firefox, now firefox has an extensions called  adblock filterset, what this does is download a text file and adds ti to the firefox adblock filter rules, but you can also use the same text file with the Konqueror adblock filter rules
[03:54] <Akg> Nope, I'm on as the original user
[03:55] <Poker_> who can help me? when i start my laptop at the end on the grafical interface i can see only the desktop image... even if it should start everything because i can see same advice from kopete...
[03:55] <samuli> Kane666, install package build-essential
[03:55] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[03:55] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[03:55] <KingLear> HymnToLife,  can you guide me why webhttrack is not opening in FF 1.5 , even though I re-installed both of them
[03:55] <Kane666> samuli: yeh done that.. whats the command to compile?
[03:55] <hastesaver> Kane666, then type "g++ <programname.cpp>" at the terminal; it will create a.out, and you can run it with "./a.out"
[03:55] <KingLear> Webhttrack via apt-get and FF 1.5 via that wiki link
[03:55] <Akg> the only user, matter of fact
[03:55] <pvd2006> sudo apt-get remove --purge, that should get rid of the kdge apps
[03:55] <Kane666> hastesaver: thanks ill try that now
[03:56] <samuli> Kane666, I don't know. I've compiled with the usual ./configure, make, sudo make install
[03:56] <callie> is there a channel for 64bit?
[03:56] <BuFF> how to change xp filesystem from ntfs to fat32 on linux ?
[03:56] <HymnToLife> Akg> sudo chmod 644 /dev/sg0 should work, but there is certainly another way
[03:56] <samuli> Dunno what to do if the source doesn't have configure :)
[03:56] <Akg> k thx
[03:56] <samuli> Buff, there's no way, me thinks.
[03:57] <mustard5> BuFF, and still keep your data?  I can't see that being possible on linux
[03:57] <HymnToLife> BuFF> you can't change FS like that, you have to format
[03:57] <HymnToLife> and thus lose all data on it
[03:57] <callie> i remember reading somewhere about x needing some tweaking after a fresh install of ubuntu 64 but i cant remember exactly what it was, any 64 bit users here ?
[03:57] <nullifie1> Guys, I follow the flash guide on the ubuntu site and the message i get returned is - Couldnt find package flashplugin-nonfree
[03:57] <nullifie1> any idea's
[03:57] <johannes__> is there a mobile that can be synchronised with kde's 3.5.1. kontact?
[03:57] <dfgas> how do i get a user to be able to load a new session  --> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[03:57] <HymnToLife> callie> didn't need any tweaking here
[03:58] <callie> johannes__: my sony w800i syncs fine
[03:58] <pvd2006> what exactly does the --purge option for apt-get do?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> !tell nullifie1 about repos
[03:58] <callie> HymnToLife: what gfx card and mobo do you have?
[03:58] <HymnToLife> pvd2006> man apt-get
[03:58] <samuli> pvd2006, it removes the package and the config file.
[03:58] <pvd2006> HymnTolife, I am there
[03:58] <johannes__> @callie via cable bluetooth infrared?
[03:58] <pvd2006> Samuli, so i guess thats still not a solution to my problem, eh?
[03:58] <callie> johannes__: all three
[03:58] <HymnToLife> GeForce 6200SE with an MSI K8N Neo 4
[03:58] <jenda> thoreauputic: hmm... what's the scp command to send /a/file to 192.168.x.x/some/path? Or is it scp?
[03:58] <ompaul> !tell nullifie1 about multiverse
[03:58] <samuli> pvd2006, no :/
[03:59] <mustard5> pvd2006, it removes configuration files
[03:59] <samuli> pvd2006, I think there is no solution with apt-get
[03:59] <ompaul> nullifie1, read the message from ubotu - it tells you what you will need to get that package
[03:59] <HymnToLife> pvd2006> the answer certainyl is there
[03:59] <callie> HymnToLife: ok so it shouldnt be so different, i have GF6600
[03:59] <mustard5> pvd2006, there is a thread in the ubuntuforums on this subject.
[03:59] <thoreauputic> jenda:  scp file destination:/path/to/directory
[03:59] <pvd2006> mustard5, I am there
[03:59] <pvd2006> its a long list of the programs
[03:59] <jenda> thoreauputic: thanks
[03:59] <pvd2006> I just hope its safe.
[03:59] <callie> HymnToLife: its like x is there but its all garbled
[03:59] <mustard5> pvd2006, read the whole thread first
[04:00] <mustard5> pvd2006, people had problems
[04:00] <HymnToLife> callie> ie ?
[04:00] <samuli> just remove what you can, and leave the rest.
[04:00] <samuli> to ease you try to find some kde-core libs that most programs depends on.
[04:00] <Tidus> jenda: 'scp /a/file username@192.168.x.x:/some/path'
[04:00] <johannes__> @callie if i preferred the nokia menu..where could i find more about which mobiles can be synchronised?
[04:00] <jenda> Tidus: even more thanks ;)
[04:01] <linux_galore> johannes__:  if you open konqueror click on Settings -> Configure Konqueror   look for Adblock Filters  you will see an "import" button down the bottom. you can import the firefox filterset text file
[04:01] <callie> johannes__: forums, wiki, google
[04:01] <nullifie1> Thanks for the info guys, ill do that when i get home
[04:02] <callie> HymnToLife: well, im not sure how to be more specific, it looks all garbled and corrupt
[04:02] <Tidus> jenda: or if you have KDE installed, just open konqueror and type 'fish://username@192.168.x.x:/some/path' then drag and drop
[04:02] <ompaul> johannes__, this is IRC using a @ at the beginning of a line is not needed most clients react by highlighting a users name when you use the users name and @ is in public view
[04:02] <jenda> Tidus: nope, no KDE
[04:02] <Tidus> jenda: ah
[04:02] <Kane666> hey, i just downloaded aMule 2.0.3 and i cant download any servers (ive set up my proxy settings..) ?
[04:03] <idefix> how long is executing the command webcam supposed to take?
[04:03] <jenda> Tidus: will that work for /a/dir or will I have to do /a/dir/*?
[04:03] <johannes__> ompaul: so without @is not highlighted? is this impolite using @or just unnecessary?
[04:03] <Tidus> jenda: if you need to copy a whole dir, use 'scp -r /some/directory username@destination:/some/path'
[04:04] <mustard5> johannes__, unnecessary
[04:04] <johannes__> ok
[04:04] <johannes__> thx guys
[04:04] <mustard5> johannes__, np
[04:05] <linux_galore> johannes__: heres the filterset text file you can add to konqueror to filter out the crap on web pages -> http://www.pierceive.com/filtersetg/2006-04-06a.txt
[04:05] <farous> how to check the package list for dapper
[04:05] <hastesaver> farous, packages.ubuntu.com
[04:05] <idefix> c'mon guys... no webcam users here?
[04:05] <johannes__> linux_galore: thx
[04:05] <ompaul> johannes__, well it is unnecessary and because it is not an ordinary letter it kind of draws peoples eyes to the start of that line, it may break the highlighting in some clients where a character before nickname would be seen as the same word and thus not the nickname as it is Xnickname :-)
[04:05] <farous> i need to know if a latest ver of a package is in it
[04:05] <farous> thans hastesaver `
[04:05] <gnomefreak> farous: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:06] <farous> thanx gnomefreak
[04:06] <jryer> I just installed LAMP packages using Synaptic. I then installed phpmyadmin also using Synaptic. Now where do I find phpmyadmin?
[04:06] <linux_galore> johannes__: just import the file into konqueror as I showed before and then konqueror now has an extensive filter list of things that are advertising
[04:06] <pvd2006> I think I found a solution to uninstall all the kde programs, debfoster, removing kde from the file of packages installed saving it then running deboster and entering no for each package it asks if I want to keep.
[04:06] <idefix> did I install webcam/easycam2 incorrectly if running the command webcam takes forever?
[04:07] <Kane666> sorry for re-asking but does annyone know why amule isn't downloading the server list?
[04:07] <hastesaver> what is vmware? Can I use it to install another OS on top of Ubuntu?
[04:07] <thoreauputic> !vmware
[04:07] <ubotu> thoreauputic: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:07] <thoreauputic> hmm
[04:07] <Ng> hastesaver: it's a virtualisation system - it creates a virtual PC you can install another OS into
[04:07] <hastesaver> Ng, and is it free?
[04:07] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: the answer is yes
[04:07] <Ng> hastesaver: nope
[04:08] <ompaul> idefix, it does take a fair amount of time for it to start, I also noted that its "front" window is backgrounded with little or no effort
[04:08] <thoreauputic> Ng: there's a"free" vmware player now
[04:08] <Ng> hastesaver: they do a free "player", but you can't install an OS with it, just run an existing image
[04:08] <Ng> thoreauputic: indeed
[04:08] <thoreauputic> free as in beer
[04:08] <hastesaver> Ng, and what about the free "server"?
[04:08] <thoreauputic> Ng: there's a wiki about creting images I think
[04:08] <callie> HymnToLife: what driver are you using?
[04:08] <thoreauputic> *creating
[04:08] <Ng> hastesaver: no idea, not touched it, but it's probably way overkill for what you want
[04:09] <Kane666> lol anyone?
[04:09] <idefix> ompaul "front" window?
[04:09] <azurehuesofblue> what is mb internet?
[04:09] <johannes__> how could i preconfigure kopete that it automatically starts with a certain irc channel? usually i have to join the channel manually
[04:09] <callie> johannes__: i wouldnt use kopete for irc
[04:09] <idefix> ompaul if everything goes right running webcam is supposed to uplaod a picture to a server, right?
[04:09] <hastesaver> Ng, oh, thanks. The one I want is "VMWare Workstation" then?
[04:09] <callie> johannes__: try something like xchat or Konversation
[04:09] <idefix> so if that didn't happen...
[04:09] <johannes__> callie i used xchat and liked it much
[04:09] <Ng> hastesaver: I reckon so, yeah
[04:09] <pvd2006> ok when I use debfoster I got an abort error at the end right after it says after unpacking 512megs of disk space will be free do you want to continue?
[04:10] <linux_galore> johannes__: I use gaim so I cant help you there
[04:10] <thoreauputic> johannes__: there's almost certainly a config option for that - someone in #kubuntu might know
[04:10] <ompaul> idefix, only if you tell it to you can test by taking single shots and sticking them into your local directory
[04:10] <HymnToLife> callie> the nvidia one works pretty well
[04:10] <hastesaver> Ng, thanks. Do you know of any free alternatives?
[04:10] <salmiak> i can't get samba sharing to work
[04:10] <salmiak> it just...doesn't work...
[04:10] <johannes__> callie but kopete is handy if you chat in msn and icq parallelly
[04:10] <salmiak> do i have to add some special user or something?
[04:10] <thoreauputic> !tell hastesaver about qemu
[04:10] <ompaul> !tell salmiak about samba
[04:10] <ompaul> salmiak, read the message from the bot
[04:10] <hastesaver> thoreauputic, thanks!
[04:11] <salmiak> thx, ompaul ;)
[04:11] <johannes__> sure it doesnt have this typical cool irc style or why wouldt you use it for irc chat callie
[04:11] <azurehuesofblue> does anyone know what mbinternet is associated with?
[04:11] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: there's awiki about using kqemu too - which is quicker than qemu
[04:11] <linux_galore> johannes__: Im chatting on IRC/Yahoo/MSN/ICQ/AIM/Google-chat  all at the same time on Gaim
[04:11] <hastesaver> thoreauputic, thanks, I'll look for it.
[04:12] <ompaul> johannes__, that is a kde question there is #kubuntu for that :-) {we got all bases covered}
[04:12] <johannes__> linux_galore you use gnome? whats bad about kopete?
[04:12] <linux_galore> johannes__: each chat windows has its own tab, same as firefox/konqueror
[04:12] <johannes__> ompaul yes
[04:12] <Tidus> i normally use irssi for my irc
[04:12] <linux_galore> johannes__: kopete doesnt support Yahoo chat
[04:13] <gnomefreak> IMHO gaim is better than kopete for everything
[04:14] <linux_galore> johannes__: you dont have to run gnome to run gaim
[04:14] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> kopete looks better :D
[04:14] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:14] <rauno> what is a good virus scanner for server linux
[04:14] <pvd2006> There we go, the prune option in debfoster got rid of all the kde packages
[04:14] <pvd2006> :)
[04:14] <HymnToLife> !virus
[04:14] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[04:14] <idefix> ompaul that's supposed to go quicker then?
[04:15] <linux_galore> yeah but i have some really wicked home brew gaim plugins done in perl. makes my life allot easier
[04:15] <azurehuesofblue> Help!  I'm in netherland!  I know how to edit my sources.list file and have a quick trigger finger but don't want to mess everything up!
[04:15] <crazy_penguin> hi!
[04:15] <idefix> ompaul how do you have to edit the webcamrc-file?
[04:15] <crazy_penguin> on what channel can i find the ubuntu developers?
[04:16] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu  <-- look here for enhanced qemu speed
[04:16] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, I don't know what mb internet refers to...
[04:16] <ompaul> idefix, I did not I just used the application - not on this machine so I can't test it now to tell you
[04:16] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, what is the context of this 'mb internet'?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> crazy_penguin: ask in here we dont normally like to bother the devel team
[04:16] <azurehuesofblue> deb-src http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu/ breezy/
[04:16] <callie> brb
[04:16] <idefix> if you change host to your ip-address, would that work then?
[04:17] <idefix> ompaul..
[04:17] <serp> when I do fullscreen in a app it appears on the wrong screen
[04:17] <serp> how do I change so it shows on my primary monitor?
[04:17] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, what repository is that ?  what is it for?
[04:17] <crazy_penguin> gnomefreak: i only want to thank them for this marvelous distro :) nothing else.
[04:17] <mathieu> serp: which app?
[04:17] <serp> mathieu: any app that does fullscreen
[04:17] <KingLear> Hey all
[04:18] <KingLear> How to use mldonkey ?
[04:18] <mustard5> !donate
[04:18] <ubotu> from memory, donate is See http://www.ubuntu.com/donations for donating to Ubuntu
[04:18] <ompaul> idefix, I started the application, with regards to it hitting some random server the tools were all there in a human useable form no fancy edits needed
[04:18] <mathieu> serp: i remember i fixed that by swapping the cables on my gfx card ;)
[04:18] <azurehuesofblue> well, I used Automatix AND Easyubuntu... so... I dunno. that's my problem, kinda "reverse installing" if you will mustard5 lol
[04:18] <serp> mathieu: hrm
[04:18] <ompaul> !automatix
[04:18] <linux_galore> Kane666: I use mldonkey, one of the protocols mldonkey supports is emule
[04:18] <mathieu> serp: some apps like mplayer offer the choice, iirc
[04:18] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[04:18] <ompaul> azurehuesofblue, ^^^
[04:18] <visik7> how can I temporary disable hotplug for usb disks ?
[04:18] <serp> mathieu: is a per-app setting?
[04:19] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, sounds potentially disasterous :)
[04:19] <serp> I thought full screen was part of x or something
[04:19] <mathieu> serp: no, i think there is a 'main' or 'first' screen
[04:19] <Kane666> linux_galore: do you have any idea why i cant connect to download a server list? ive set up my proxy settings...
[04:19] <azurehuesofblue> lol yeah.
[04:19] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, are you trying to get of something that was installed?
[04:19] <KingLear> How to use mldonkey ?
[04:19] <mathieu> but the apps can or could choose the screen
[04:19] <hastesaver> thoreauputic, thanks. The Qemu page also mentions KQemu and -- at least at first glance -- different instructions... which one should I follow?
[04:19] <linux_galore> Kane666: yeah usually means you have a port blocked on the firewall
[04:20] <ompaul> azurehuesofblue, back up your personal data and reinstall, who knows what using both of them broke
[04:20] <azurehuesofblue> Well, I' don't even know how to figure out what it is refering to.
[04:20] <pvd2006> well debfoster deleted xmms, but oh well.
[04:20] <Kane666> linux_galore: but its using port 1080 (socks) and my proxy server allows that port?
[04:20] <serp> mathieu: oh okay
[04:20] <linux_galore> Kane666: or if your behind a router you dont have port forwarding setup
[04:20] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, start from scratch and only use easyubuntu?
[04:20] <serp> but it chooses my left screen, even though it's seconadry
[04:20] <KingLear> How to use mldonkey ? please?
[04:20] <azurehuesofblue> ompaul... the reason I did it, was because I use myspace... and I cant figure out how to make the stupid embedded flash player thing work?
[04:21] <azurehuesofblue> does easyubuntu have a better rep?
[04:21] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, in here it does yeah
[04:21] <linux_galore> KingLear: read the howto on the home page you have to setup a few things. or run kmldonkey and then run the setup tool
[04:21] <Kane666> linux_galore: i dont need port forwarding because all my trafic goes through my host computer not the router because im on dial-up
[04:21] <the_mug> do any of you know how I can create or get an apache 2.2 init script? I compiled Apache from source and I don't have one ubuntu...
[04:21] <azurehuesofblue> k
[04:21] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, come in here for guidance on flash
[04:21] <linux_galore> Kane666: then you have to open a port
[04:21] <KingLear> linux_galore,  can you gimme a link here please?>
[04:21] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, someone will throw you a link :D
[04:22] <linux_galore> KingLear: for what
[04:22] <Kane666> linux_galore: what port? 1080 is open...
[04:22] <KingLear> for setting up mldonkey
[04:22] <linux_galore> Kane666: 1080 isnt emule
[04:22] <KingLear> I have mlgui as well as mlserver installed
[04:22] <KingLear> but they don t seem to work , linux_galore
[04:22] <Kane666> linux_galore: yeh but thats what it 'should' be connecting through because ive set it up to use my proxy server
[04:22] <linux_galore> KingLear: what am I google
[04:23] <azurehuesofblue> well, I've talked to some of the easyubuntu developers and they seem nice, I should've just waited, if I'm thinking about reinstalling everything, I might as well just delete this line in my sources.list and see if it fixes it before I do that... ya know? mustard5 and ompaul?
[04:23] <KingLear> I thought you were co-operating, linux_galore
[04:23] <KingLear> :)
[04:23] <linux_galore> KingLear: ?? yeah like I know millions of links right of the top of my head
[04:23] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, what is the issue though?
[04:23] <KingLear> Laughs Out Loud
[04:23] <azurehuesofblue> it just says 404 when I update.
[04:24] <KingLear> bye , and thanks for the hint linux_galore
[04:24] <ompaul> azurehuesofblue, you can only do things like that if you know exactly what you have broken, and I guess that the answer to that is you don't know
[04:24] <ramvi> I have some trouble with X. Can anyone take a look? It won't start... http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/713536
[04:24] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, ah ok..yeah..just put a # in front of it and sudo apt-get update
[04:24] <the_mug> any possible direction on init scripts? for Apache 2.2?
[04:25] <azurehuesofblue> what does the # do... do you mean in the sources file... does it just ignore it... ompaul... I hear ya.
[04:25] <Absenth> what would the apt package name be for glib 2.8.3?
[04:25] <linux_galore> azurehuesofblue:  # usually tells the compiler or script interpreter to ignore that line'
[04:25] <ompaul> azurehuesofblue, it ignores
[04:25] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, the # is like a remark...putting it in front of a line makes the line a comment
[04:26] <azurehuesofblue> oh I see, like a comment.
[04:26] <azurehuesofblue> right on.
[04:26] <azurehuesofblue> so ompaul's advice is figure it all out from scratch?
[04:26] <azurehuesofblue> use neither ompaul?
[04:26] <ompaul> azurehuesofblue, yes it is
[04:26] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, you might learn some stuff fiddling with it...at least you can't break it anymore than you have :)
[04:26] <NoUse> Absenth glibc is already installed
[04:26] <ompaul> azurehuesofblue, if you want to use one use easyubuntu, but today it is having a problem
[04:27] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, obviously starting from scratch gets you closer to being productive :)
[04:27] <azurehuesofblue> haha tha'ts what I'm thinking.
[04:27] <NoUse> Absenth are you trying to compile something?
[04:27] <Absenth> NoUse, the ./configure for irssi is complaining about it not being there.
[04:28] <NoUse> Absenth well first of all, irssi is in synaptic, but if you need to compile it you need to install the build-essential package
[04:28] <chripher> !samba
[04:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[04:28] <ompaul> azurehuesofblue, I can get you around that problem, when installed cd easyubuntu/trunk and chmod 755 the easyubunt.py file then run the last command on their site but frankly wait a few hours and I imagine that it will be fixed
[04:28] <idefix> ompaul, I installed camorama and it works so that means the drivers of the webcam are ok, right?
[04:28] <Absenth> NoUse, since it's a CLI only Ubuntu install, any idea what the package name is so I can just apt-get install?
[04:29] <Absenth> NoUse, and build-essential is already installed
[04:29] <NoUse> Absenth sudo apt-get install irssi
[04:29] <ompaul> idefix, no it means that one that looks reasonable has been choosen, you can do a little work with it and see how it goes, it seems all straight forward enough
[04:30] <Kane666> linux_galore: how do i set up amule to be able to connect (sorry if im getting annoying)
[04:30] <azurehuesofblue> OK, well, really, I mean, if I delete this line from my sources.list... then I mean... nothing visable would be broken ompaul right?
[04:30] <ompaul> azurehuesofblue, and how do you add anything new and how do you fix that which is broken
[04:30] <Absenth> NoUse, Package irssi is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:31] <the_mug> Bueller......... Bueller....... anyone?
[04:31] <gnomefreak> Absenth: its already installed
[04:31] <NoUse> Absenth try irssi-text
[04:31] <linuxl202> ,k{
[04:31] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, just comment it out rather than removing...then you have it available at a latter stage
[04:31] <zeeble> hello all
[04:31] <Absenth> NoUse, that works, thanks.
[04:31] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, why its 404'ing at the moment is not really clear
[04:31] <linuxl202> 002
[04:31] <azurehuesofblue> lol, I'm confused... I know ompaul has quite a bit of experience.
[04:32] <linux_galore> Kane666: you have to open port 4672
[04:32] <linux_galore> Kane666: on your firewall
[04:32] <azurehuesofblue> mustard5 not that you don't.
[04:32] <Kane666> linux_galore: by firewall do you mean proxy server?
[04:32] <linux_galore> Kane666: you can do that with firestarter
[04:32] <azurehuesofblue> mustard5 you think I should just comment it out and keep on truckin?
[04:32] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, yeah
[04:32] <linux_galore> Kane666: no on the Linux machine
[04:33] <crazy_penguin> is easyubuntu an installable packages or separate component?
[04:33] <Kane666> linux_galore: i haven't installed a firewall
[04:33] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, later on you can come back and work on it then :)
[04:33] <linux_galore> Kane666: Linux has a built in firewall
[04:33] <linux_galore> Kane666: firestarter is just an admin tool
[04:33] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, for now its not working..for what reason I am not sure, but it might be something documented on the EasyUbuntu website
[04:33] <Kane666> linux_galore: how do i start firestarter?
[04:33] <azurehuesofblue> mustard5... I REALLY want to learn backups... so I think I am going to keep going, know my machine is probably compromised LOL
[04:34] <ompaul> azurehuesofblue, step 1 back up your data, step 2 reinstall, step 3 update the install and add the extra repos, step 4 use the documentation or easyubuntu nothing else for your codec implementation, step 5 add other applications as desired, step 6 restore data
[04:34] <linux_galore> Kane666: type sudo firestarter
[04:34] <linux_galore> Kane666: if its installed
[04:34] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, k..its a good time to be bold and experiment
[04:34] <Kane666> linux_galore: its not, command not found
[04:34] <linux_galore> Kane666: have to apt-get firestarter
[04:35] <ompaul> azurehuesofblue, please stop terminating every line in "laughing out loud" it does nothing and when you want to use it people will not know there is something funny there
[04:35] <squirrelpimp> hi
[04:35] <Kane666> linux_galore: unable to fetch some archives
[04:35] <linux_galore> Kane666: sudo apt-get firestarter   to be precise
[04:35] <Kane666> ??
[04:36] <squirrelpimp> i unfortunately installed the 64-bit version of dapper, now i don't have flash etc. any sugegstions on which free version to try? oder should i reinstall i386?
[04:36] <zee417> Does anyone know how to configure postfix to relay all email to another mailserver? I'm new to postfix and can't figure out how
[04:36] <NoUse> Absenth just for future reference, you can usee 'apt-cache search keyword' to search apt-get
[04:36] <Absenth> NoUse: Thank you.  I knew there had to be a way to search which packages were in Apt without Synaptic.
[04:36] <Gibson> You Bun Two.
[04:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell squirrelpimp about flash
[04:37] <cg> how to change display res to 1280x800?  i only have 1024 option to select,why?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> squirrelpimp: there are a few choices on that site but 64bit and flash dont play well together
[04:37] <Absenth> cg: I suspect you can edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as one option.
[04:37] <squirrelpimp> gnomefreak: :-(
[04:38] <gnomefreak> most non-free apps dont play well with 64bit
[04:38] <NoUse> !tell cg about fixres
[04:38] <squirrelpimp> looks like a reinstall then...:-(
[04:39] <hastesaver> How do I make sudo not ask for a password?
[04:39] <simonp_> I've got 'insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/CiscoVPN/cisco_ipsec.ko': -1 Invalid module format" error. Can anyone help me?
[04:39] <mathieu> user ALL=NOPASSWD: (ALL) ALL
[04:39] <mathieu> something like that
[04:39] <mathieu> hastesaver: but you better check the man page
[04:40] <hastesaver> mathieu, *groans*.. thanks :)
[04:40] <Gibson> Request:  Freelance Ubuntu experts required for major international development project.  Location not important, but willingness to work as part of a team and provide input according to a precise spec is required.  Minimum of 10 hours input over a 2 month period required to register your interest.  Msg me for further info with details of your experience and reference sites if possible.  Thank you.
[04:40] <azurehuesofblue> Mustard5: I think I'd be cool either way but ompaul is on here like ALL the time and as a total newb I need his help so Imma reformat... not quite brave enough to go it alone, but thanks man! I learned # :-)
[04:41] <mustard5> azurehuesofblue, sure np
[04:41] <koroded> arrick: you around?
[04:41] <p01n7> anyone having troubles with canadian repositories this mornings?
[04:42] <Kane666> linux_galore: ive installed firestarter, now how do i enable that port (forgot the number)
[04:42] <cg> here is my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13842
[04:43] <cg> it seems ubuntu identify 1280, but why it set to 1024?
[04:43] <NoUse> cg did you try the wiki page that ubotu sent you?
[04:43] <linux_galore> 4672 need to open the port
[04:43] <Kane666> linux_galore: how do i open a specific port?
[04:43] <linux_galore> just run firestarter with  sudo firestarter  its pretty obvious
[04:44] <Kane666> yeh i've opened the program, but how do i open a port?
[04:45] <simonp_> oh.. problem solved after installing linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:45] <wahjava> hi group
[04:45] <wahjava> I want to know what is expected with a daemon started from init.d
[04:45] <linux_galore> Kane666: Im not running firestarter right now but Its there in the menu
[04:45] <simonp_> im idiot
[04:45] <wahjava> I mean it has to fork itself
[04:45] <wahjava> :-S
[04:46] <Kane666> linux_galore: could you run it and have a look, i'm used to using zonealarm so this is confusing me
[04:46] <Kane666> ..please
[04:46] <jacob_> can someone help me on the installation of madwifi?
[04:46] <wahjava> I've written a blocking application in python which is to be run at system startup
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> blocking?
[04:47] <linux_galore> Kane666: http://www.fs-security.com/docs.php
[04:47] <wahjava> Dr_Willis: yup blocking ? it is DBUS service
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> im thinking theres some rc.local script that can run stuff like that.. but  not sure if ubuntu udes that or not.
[04:47] <jacob_> can someone help me on the installation of madwifi?
[04:47] <NoUse> !repeat
[04:47] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[04:47] <wahjava> Dr_Willis: which will block, i.e. waiting for invocation of methods
[04:47] <jacob_> ubotu, tell jacob_ about madwifi
[04:48] <koroded> I read the doc on installing the newest firefox in ubuntu, is there one similar for Thunderbird?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> wahjava,  the way i read that was your program was 'designed to block somthing' :P
[04:49] <johannes__> where could ic find more which mobiles (esp. nokia) supprt kontacts synchron. tool?
[04:49] <wahjava> Dr_Willis: :)
[04:49] <jacob_> can someone help me on the installation of madwifi?
[04:49] <wahjava> Dr_Willis: It is waiting for some input
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> wahjava,  i seem to recall some rc service that was designed for misc commands and stuff to run.. but i guess if your program wants actual input.. there may not be a trivial way around that.
[04:51] <girafe> I all, i have juste installed kubuntu and i have a problem with my mouse ( USB ), it freeze  after 5min... can someone help me ?
[04:51] <wahjava> Dr_Willis: My service is just like hald or any daemon depending on DBUS except it is written in Python
[04:52] <jacob_> can someone help me on the installation of madwifi?
[04:52] <NoUse> jacob_ if you are running breezy I think its already installed
[04:52] <jacob_> nouse: ok.. then can you help me configure?
[04:53] <NoUse> jacob_ you might try #madwifi, I've never use it
[04:53] <jacob_> nouse: ok
[04:54] <ctorral> cristina
[04:55] <Adyeths> can someone here tell me how to fix the graphical boot up screens in dapper? I made the mistake of installing the xubuntu desktop, but when I uninstalled it the bootup and shutdown screens got all screwed up.
[04:55] <cg> the wiki tell me add two line:     HorizSync          30-96
[04:55] <cg>      VertRefresh        50-160
[04:55] <Adyeths> I tried asking in #ubuntu+1 but they seem to be ignoring me in there.
[04:55] <sanych_laptop> How I can figure out whcich version of glibc is installed?
[04:56] <cg> will that be harmful to the LCD diplay?
[04:56] <NoUse> sanych_laptop dpkg -l | grep glibc
[04:56] <sanych_laptop> NoUse: thanks!
[04:57] <linux_galore> Adyeths: hmm reinstall gdm
[04:57] <NoUse> cg I *think* that most LCDs will handle an out of range h/vsync gracefully
[04:57] <cg> thanks!
[04:58] <linux_galore> Adyeths: the actuall bootup is gdm
[04:58] <cg> my card is intel 855, the wiki have a solution, lucky
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> linux_galore,  i think hes refering to the splash screens/logi
[04:58] <reverb> hello, how do i burn an iso-file?
[04:59] <Adyeths> yes. the splash screens. the colors are all messed up now. and I don't know how to fix them. and now I can't see any of the messages about whats starting up or whether the services started up ok.
[04:59] <NoUse> reverb in linux or windows?
[04:59] <reverb> NoUse: what do you think? in ubuntu ofcourse.
[04:59] <Stormx2> Hey everyone, you ok?
[04:59] <linux_galore> Adyeths: press esc
[04:59] <yaya> !ati
[04:59] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:00] <Adyeths> pressing esc will FIX the problem?
[05:00] <linux_galore> Adyeths: that should show the classical startup
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Adyeths,  could boot with the 'nosplash' option and disable the splash screens totally (i think)
[05:00] <Adyeths> thats not what I was asking though.
[05:00] <NoUse> reverb right click on the file, click write to cd
[05:01] <Adyeths> I'm asking how to FIX the thing. not avoid it.
[05:01] <reverb> NoUse: and if I want to do it in the console-mode?
[05:01] <gnomefreak> !usplash
[05:01] <ubotu> somebody said usplash was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[05:01] <NoUse> reverb man cdrecord
[05:01] <gnomefreak> Adyeths: ^^^^
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Adyeths,  that would mean uninstalling all the splash related packages and installing the proper ones - woul dbe my guess.
[05:01] <graveson> i installed xubuntu desktop which change the boot ( i think it is called splash) to xubuntu - how can i rmove this and go to the default ubuntu bootup
[05:01] <gnomefreak> Adyeths: they changed it today it will be changed again soon im sure
[05:01] <_jason> !+usplashchange
[05:01] <ubotu> To change the usplash image shown at boot, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so", choose the one that you want, and then do "sudo update-initramfs -u".
[05:02] <gnomefreak> Adyeths: if you have another window manages either xfce or kde you can change them the way _jason and ubotu said
[05:02] <Adyeths> is there something that will tell me the default settings for usplash so I can make it look proper and readable?
[05:03] <hastesaver> Adyeths, you can just reinstall them (then they'll have the defaults), using "apt-get --reinstall ..."
[05:04] <Adyeths> I've already reinstalled usplash
[05:04] <Adyeths> it didn't fix things.
[05:04] <_jason> Adyeths: try purging first
[05:04] <Adyeths> I have xubuntu stuff completely uninstalled now too.
[05:04] <Adyeths> purging?
[05:05] <cg> my display is 1280x800, but i cannot see this res on the list of intel855
[05:05] <_jason> Adyeths: sudo aptitude purge package
[05:05] <DrBanzai> Can anyone here help me get my portable MP3 player to work under Ubuntu?
[05:05] <cg> can i select 1280x1024?
[05:05] <_jason> Adyeths: purge        - Remove packages and their configuration files
[05:05] <NoUse> cg try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:05] <Adyeths> I've already done that as well.
[05:05] <gymsmoke> in my iptables ruleset, i have this -A INPUT -s 194.67.23.0/255 -j DROP # Russian server - too much spam
[05:06] <gymsmoke> iptables-restore < primary-ruleset throws an error...
[05:06] <cg> that reconf app seems too verbose
[05:06] <Ng> gymsmoke: you probably want /24 or /255.255.255.0
[05:06] <NoUse> cg what do you mean?
[05:06] <cg> i don't know those params
[05:07] <gymsmoke> Ng: like 194.67.23.0/24 ...
[05:07] <Ng> gymsmoke: yep, that'll block 194.67.23.0-194.67.23.255
[05:07] <NoUse> cg they should be in the documentaton for your monitor
[05:07] <pcin0> does anybody knows how to configure fvwm ?
[05:08] <gymsmoke> Ng: hrmm - it doesn't like the '#' - Bad argument... do comments have to be on a separate line ?
[05:08] <Ng> gymsmoke: quite probably
[05:08] <pcin0> does anybody knows how to configure fvwm  to set the redmondxp-theme?
[05:08] <gymsmoke> Ng: that did it, thanks
[05:08] <Ng> gymsmoke: :)
[05:08] <graveson> i tried the command by ubotu but i get the output - (/usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so). Nothing to configure.
[05:09] <gymsmoke> stupid russian mail server... i just opened a site 2 hours ago, and i already got a bunch of spam messages from that address
[05:09] <gnomefreak> graveson: because you only have one desktop enviornment installed or (metapackage)
[05:10] <DrBanzai> I have a BusLink external USB hard drive, but it dosen't get recognized my Ubuntu, any ideas?
[05:10] <Tobbe> Hi. I get an error when running this: "ALTER DATABASE mythconverg DEFAULT CHARACTER SET latin1;" in mysql, could it be that I'm missing latin1?
[05:10] <graveson> gnomefreak: i am lost now,then how do i get rid of the xubuntu (is it called splash) when booting up
[05:11] <X3n0n> hello i would like to know if it is wise to upgrade my ubuntu 5.10 with latest updates to dapper beta...is quite stable? does anyone maces problems?
[05:11] <X3n0n> faces*
[05:11] <gnomefreak> graveson: do you have gnome installed?
[05:11] <X3n0n> yes
[05:11] <graveson> gnomefreak : yes
[05:11] <X3n0n> it was not for me :P
[05:12] <gnomefreak> graveson: if you run the command _jason gave it will ask you what one you want to use just use the number next to it and hit enter
[05:13] <gnomefreak> graveson: what one do you want to change the one with all the modules loading?
[05:13] <gnomefreak> or the one after logging in?
[05:13] <graveson> !+usplashchange
[05:13] <micktm> hi! someone can use the adsl modem Speedtouch without problems?
[05:13] <ubotu> To change the usplash image shown at boot, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so", choose the one that you want, and then do "sudo update-initramfs -u".
[05:14] <gnomefreak> graveson: that is for the screen that the modules load on
[05:14] <micktm> ?
[05:15] <graveson> gnomefreak: so let clear this while booting the screen that modules load i should type that command above by jason
[05:16] <gnomefreak> graveson: thats to change that screen yes
[05:16] <micktm> Someone can use the adsl modem Speedtouch without problems?
[05:16] <graveson> okay let me try that ,because the screen by ubotu is not working
[05:17] <micktm> Someone can use the adsl modem Speedtouch without problems?
[05:18] <pcin0> does anyone knows how to put a fixed app menu in enlightenment?
[05:18] <azurehuesofblue> sorry this is a newb question but... do I enable all repos?
[05:18] <dima_> #ubuntu
[05:18] <NoUse> !tell azurehuesofblue about repos
[05:18] <micktm> Someone can use the adsl modem Speedtouch without problems?
[05:19] <dima_> any special boot options for running Live CD from USB CD Rom ?
[05:19] <micktm> Someone can use the adsl modem Speedtouch without problems?
[05:19] <hastesaver> !repeat
[05:19] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[05:19] <jmoncayo> had somebody used cygwin from windows to forward -X
[05:20] <jmoncayo> had somebody used cygwin from windows to forward -X through ssh
[05:20] <mathieu> jmoncayo: sure
[05:20] <mathieu> jmoncayo: you need to run it from the cygwin xserver though
[05:21] <X3n0n> hallo again! does anyone owning an ATI X1300 managed to have 3d acceleration?
[05:21] <xfighter> hi
[05:21] <xfighter> wanna ask somethin guys
[05:21] <xfighter> i have xp sp2 pro
[05:21] <xfighter> i wanna install Ubuntu
[05:21] <xfighter> on another partition
[05:22] <xfighter> my question is
[05:22] <pcin0> open the dos prompt  and type
[05:22] <NoUse> !enter
[05:22] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:22] <pcin0> sudo apt-get install ubuntu
[05:22] <xfighter> do you think that my xp will be damagd or gone because of the linus or am i gonna have the ability to run both
[05:22] <xfighter> ??
[05:23] <NoUse> xfighter you can run both, you just need to reize your ntfs partition to make room
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> You can boot to windows or Linux at boot time. with the Grub boot loader.
[05:23] <pcin0> xfighter, the damage will be only one: your disk free space will reduce. :)
[05:23] <hastesaver> xfighter, whatever you do, backup everything first
[05:23] <jmoncayo> mathieu, so how can i ssh from my windows box to my linux box and forward X
[05:23] <xfighter> mmmm sorry am totally new so am gonna ask u lots of questions
[05:24] <xfighter> see when you install 2 windows system for example
[05:24] <xfighter> when you boot
[05:24] <dima_> Question: is there any special boot options for running Live CD from USB CD Rom ? Looks like it is loosing USB just before the uSplash.
[05:24] <xfighter> u see a menu consisting the 2 ops
[05:24] <xfighter> right
[05:24] <xfighter> isn't that gonna happen when i install Ubuntu
[05:24] <NoUse> xfighter yes
[05:25] <voraistos> hey, i am looking for a good replacement for skype (i would prefer opensource ;) ), can anyone help ?
[05:25] <xfighter> so without usin other programmes
[05:25] <xfighter> ?
[05:25] <NoUse> xfighter yes
[05:25] <pcin0> voraistos, how about the conventional telephone? its open source
[05:25] <NoUse> xfighter https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[05:25] <xfighter> please are u sure
[05:25] <mathieu> jmoncayo: you start cygwin X server, run xterm, and do ssh -X
[05:26] <NoUse> xfighter I dual boot right now, I'm sure
[05:26] <voraistos> pcin0: yeah but that aint free, and i only have cable. no phone
[05:26] <xfighter> so i just setup the Ubuntu like i setup windows
[05:26] <xfighter> and everything goes normally
[05:26] <NoUse> xfighter you need to resize your windows partition
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> !install
[05:26] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[05:26] <NoUse> xfighter read the wiki page I sent you
[05:26] <jmoncayo> mathieu, to start cygwin x server i only need to open the shortcut it created during the installation in my desktop?
[05:27] <spectwi> hi i just upgraded to 2.6.15-22
[05:27] <spectwi> wherbut i can't boot
[05:27] <spectwi> *but i can't boot
[05:27] <mathieu> jmoncayo: it's called something like startxwin.bat
[05:27] <spectwi> because the xfs module doesn't exist
[05:27] <xfighter> and a menu will be shown like installing win me for example
[05:27] <jacob_> Hey, it says that i can't acess a folder because i don't have owner permissions... but, this is the account that i started up when i installed ubuntu... any help?
[05:27] <spectwi> i can't seem to find a package
[05:27] <spectwi> in apty
[05:27] <bakso> hello
[05:27] <xfighter> right?
[05:27] <spectwi> -y
[05:27] <jmoncayo> ok
[05:27] <mathieu> jmoncayo: an X will appear in the notification area
[05:27] <spectwi> i mean
[05:27] <spectwi> i'm not sure how else i can install it
[05:28] <NoUse> xfighter I've never installed Windows ME, I did everything possibly to avoid that one
[05:28] <hastesaver> xfighter, everything *can* (and is likely to) go normally. But you should still backup, no point complaining later.
[05:28] <brettzilla> question: i get an error when trying to play an mp3... saying i dont have the right plugins.. whats the solution? and where could i get this plugin if i cant apt-get it?
[05:28] <NoUse> !tell brettzilla about mp3
[05:29] <hastesaver> xfighter, just make sure you resize your windows partition to free up some space, and ask Ubuntu to only use that free space, not touch any existing partitions.
[05:29] <brettzilla> ah
[05:29] <burns> .
[05:29] <ubuntu> hi guys, i was wondering if its possible to install gnome 2.14 or KDE 3.5 on breezy badger?
[05:29] <ubuntu> theres nothing about it on the wiki
[05:29] <azurehuesofblue> thanks for the pointer!
[05:29] <_jason> ubuntu: no and yes
[05:29] <_jason> !kde3.5
[05:29] <ubotu> To upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[05:29] <ubuntu> thanks!
[05:30] <ubuntu> anything on gnome 2.14 yet?
[05:30] <brettzilla> thank youuuuu
[05:30] <nuxil> what do i need to get the nvidia drivers to work
[05:30] <_jason> ubuntu: only available in dapper (stable release on June 1st)
[05:30] <samuli> I want newer gnome that in dapper :/
[05:30] <samuli> tahn
[05:30] <samuli> than
[05:31] <samuli> it's sluggish.
[05:31] <NoUse> !tell nuxil about nvidia
[05:31] <hastesaver> Can I have two Linux OSes having the same /home ?
[05:31] <ubuntu> i'm shocked at how easy ubuntu was to setup, and it auto-detected all the hardware
[05:31] <_jason> samuli: 2.14 is the latest gnome release
[05:31] <NoUse> hastesaver theoretically, yes
[05:31] <ubuntu> really impressive
[05:32] <nuxil> NoUse thxz
[05:33] <samuli> jason, I know. I want newer :(
[05:33] <_jason> samuli: umm go work on it then to help speed things along :P
[05:34] <serp> why is there no package of ajunta2?
[05:35] <NoUse> serp what is it?
[05:35] <serp> an IDE
[05:36] <_jason> serp: isn't it still alpha?
[05:36] <ubuntu> where is sources.list located?
[05:36] <ubuntu> ./etc?
[05:36] <_jason> ubuntu: /etc/apt
[05:36] <serp> _jason: yeah
[05:36] <serp> but still.. I want it =(
[05:37] <_jason> serp: guess it wasn't deemed stable enough to enter a stable release
[05:37] <Ng> serp: if there's no package it's because nobody has made one yet
[05:37] <serp> aren't there any unstable packages?
[05:37] <Ng> serp: there does seem to be an anjuta2 package in debian's experimental repository. you might be able to rebuild that
[05:38] <serp> oh
[05:38] <serp> I'll have a look
[05:38] <serp> is kubuntu better than ubuntu?
[05:38] <Ng> personal preference :)
[05:38] <NoUse> !better
[05:38] <ubotu> Better for what? Better for whom? Why don't you try them all, then decide for yourself?
[05:38] <serp> what's the difference?
[05:38] <Ng> Ubuntu uses GNOME, kUbuntu uses KDe
[05:39] <azathoth> how can i set mount --bind's in the fstab?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> This is when reading the different web sites come in handy. :P
[05:39] <bakso> kde is vary nice look
[05:39] <bakso> but gnome is nicer
[05:39] <serp> is gnome and kde on top of xorg?
[05:39] <serp> will I use the same xorg.conf with kde?
[05:40] <Ng> serp: yes
[05:40] <ubuntu> how can i edit sources.list in the text editor if it comes up at read only?
[05:40] <NoUse> serp ubuntu and kubuntu share the same base system, just different desktops
[05:40] <Ng> ubuntu: with sudo
[05:40] <Ng> ubuntu: or gksudo if it's a graphical editor
[05:40] <bakso> serp: there's xubuntu too
[05:40] <ubuntu> Ng: but im not using terminal, just clicking from apps list
[05:40] <serp> oh
[05:40] <serp> Ill try kubuntu then
[05:40] <serp> Ng:  I can't find anjuta2 in debian
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> i find its best to use ubuntu, then install Kubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <serp> You have searched for packages that names contain anjuta2 in all suites, all sections, and all architectures.
[05:41] <Ng> serp: it's in experimental, not unstable or stable. use packages.debian.org
[05:41] <brt> hello
[05:41] <Ng> ubuntu: open a terminal and run "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:41] <serp> and no result
[05:41] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[05:41] <brrrt>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY hohoho
[05:41] <Ng> serp: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=anjuta&searchon=names&subword=1&version=experimental&release=all
[05:42] <serp> oh... so the package name was still anjuta
[05:42] <serp> okay
[05:42] <mpmc> Anyone trying Exile here?
[05:42] <brrrt> i have troubles getting the lirc-modules to work :(
[05:42] <mpmc> Exaile*
[05:42] <aktiv[b] > uhm, anyone know of any control software for a usb switch ?
[05:43] <brrrt> it seems as i have compiled the lirc-modules right and installed but they wont load, what can i do?
[05:44] <brrrt> i just get:
[05:44] <brrrt> FATAL: Error inserting lirc_dev (/lib/modules/2.6.15-22-k7/misc/lirc_dev.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[05:44] <mpmc> Bah, damn gaim!
[05:44] <NoUse> brrrt lirc is in synaptic, why do you need to compile?
[05:44] <brrrt> the kernel modules are as binary in synaptic?
[05:44] <idefix> do some internetproviders block too frequent use of ftp? so that means, you have to fix everything of your website up locally and upload the whole lot at once?
[05:45] <NoUse> brrrt oh nevermind, have you tried this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LircHowto
[05:46] <mpmc> idefix: Not that I know off, depends on where you are in the world..
[05:46] <nuxil> hmm how do i get sound ? i have a sound card issue..
[05:46] <NoUse> !tell nuxil about sound
[05:47] <brrrt> NoUse: oh, no tried some other howtos, i'll give that a try, thx alot!
[05:47] <brettzilla> so i created a new user, and did "thefuture" on that one in the terminal, and a lot of the features in compiz work for that user, and not mine.. for instance zoom... and the dock..
[05:48] <brettzilla> how would i go about reinstalling compiz all together?
[05:48] <aktiv[b] > i have an usbswitch 4in/4out i use to switch keys/mouse/printer between several pcs, but in ubuntu only recognizes this as an usb HUB, how can i fix this ?
[05:48] <brettzilla> and/or xgl
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> aktiv[b] ,  you mean you hit some keycombo and the switch 'switches' automaticially?
[05:49] <gerberad> I'm been trying to install libglib2.0-dev in synaptic, but I get this: libglib2.0-dev:
[05:49] <gerberad>   Depends: libglib2.0-0 (=2.8.3-0ubuntu1) but 2.8.6-1 is to be installed
[05:49] <brettzilla> can anyone help me reinstall compiz?
[05:50] <NoUse> gerberad you running breezy?
[05:50] <gerberad> yeah
[05:50] <cg> my display card set ok to 1280x800, thanks for your help!
[05:51] <NoUse> gerberad have you messed with your souces?
[05:51] <NoUse> gerberad sources.list
[05:51] <gerberad> NoUse, I haven't touched the sources.list, but I have changed some in synaptic
[05:52] <NoUse> gerberad what have you changed?
[05:53] <sicc1> Hey, anyone here ever experienced an issue with totem? When I try to load it up I get this error: Cannot load main form
[05:53] <sicc1> I've tried reinstalling it, but to no success.
[05:53] <idefix> GAIM has no live webcam possibily yet, does it?
[05:53] <NoUse> idefix not yet, they are working on it
[05:53] <aktiv[b] > anyone know how i can set up dualscreen on a nvidia fx5600 ?
[05:54] <gerberad> NoUse, I'm in western africa with a slow connection, so I tried to clean up shop.  I deleted a couple that I had added earlier, I deleted the ones for source, and I added an entry for backports
[05:55] <Ng> aktiv[b] : with both monitors on the same card?
[05:56] <nuxil> NoUse wher is rthe old good alsaconfig?
[05:56] <Ng> aktiv[b] : if so, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors
[05:57] <ubuntu> is it possible to setup ubuntu so it doesnt ask for the cd-rom every time u want to install something?
[05:57] <Ng> !tell ubuntu about sources
[05:57] <ubuntu> thanks
[05:57] <Ng> ubuntu: ubotu just messaged you with a link to the full sources list for various versions of ubuntu. set your /etc/apt/sources.list to look like the right one
[05:57] <serp> I can how do I downgrade a package?
[05:58] <salmiak> FINALLY samba is working *happy*
[05:58] <serp> I installed a package from debian experimental over the stable ubuntu package and I wanna move back
[05:58] <salmiak> now my windows machine can reach some read-only stuff here on my ubuntu server ;D
[05:58] <ubuntu> !easysources
[05:58] <ubotu> ubuntu: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:58] <ubuntu> !easysource
[05:58] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:59] <NoUse> gerberad please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:59] <NoUse> !tell gerberad about pastebin
[06:00] <Lemino> i have this problem with firefox... the files for the search-engines are located in /usr/lib and thus restricted to root-access. hence, I can't add or delete search-engines.
[06:00] <sanych_laptop> where I can change link for sync time via ntp.ubuntulinux.org?
[06:01] <ism720> which program do i use to open ununtu.install on win98?
[06:01] <ism720> un/ub
[06:01] <slackern> sanych_laptop, try rightclicking on the clock in gnome and choosing 'adjust date & time' it should be there.
[06:01] <slackern> sanych_laptop, im running dapper but i think it's the same in gnome.
[06:01] <NoUse> ism720 you don't open it from inside windows, you boot from the CD
[06:02] <sanych_laptop> slackern, ok, thanks!!!
[06:02] <nuxil> i dont get it.. it looks like i got the right module loaded.. but i cant do aplay file.wav as a user but if i do sudo aplay file.wav i get sound
[06:02] <samuli> funny thing happened to me in kde.
[06:03] <NoUse> nuxil do you belong to the 'audio' group? run 'groups' to find out
[06:03] <samuli> I lost my regional settings for keyboard and couldn't get them back?
[06:03] <gerberad> noUse, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13856
[06:03] <nuxil> NoUse oh its empty
[06:04] <NoUse> nuxil you need to add yourself to that group to get sound
[06:04] <NoUse> gerberad have you run apt-get update since you changed these sources?
[06:05] <nuxil> NoUse already did :D
[06:06] <nuxil> just need to logout now
[06:06] <gerberad> NoUse, yeah previously I hadn't so it took awhile.  But I had done it before trying to install
[06:06] <NoUse> Gerrath remove that cipherfunk repo, apt-get update and try again
[06:06] <octan> yay.. NoUse thxz :}
[06:07] <gerberad> noUse, will do
[06:07] <Pulgoki> does anyone know why i would be getting this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13857 error when trying to install the new kernal using synaptic?
[06:08] <Pulgoki> synpatic, whatever its called
[06:08] <Pulgoki> :p
[06:08] <froud> is it possible to capture a character-based screen on one terminal from another terminal?
[06:08] <NoUse> Pulgoki have you deleted anything by hand in /boot?
[06:09] <Pulgoki> NoUse: not that i know of
[06:09] <gerberad> NoUse, same error on dependencies
[06:09] <scifi> yo guys, do u think it wud ever be possible to switch directly from ubuntu to windows and back without having to restart ?
[06:09] <NoUse> gerberad run this "sudo wget htp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6047 -O /etc/apt/sources.list", this will replace your sources.list with the standard repos, then run apt-get update and try again
[06:10] <scifi> thats a no then lol
[06:10] <NoUse> gerberad mispelled http there
[06:10] <Kyral> scifi: with Xen maybe...but right now Windows doesn't run on Xen
[06:10] <scifi> Kyral: whats Xen ?
[06:10] <Kyral> really cool virtual machine thing
[06:10] <Kyral> not like VMWare or Wine
[06:10] <HunterZ> hi
[06:11] <Pulgoki> NoUse: can i do try the same update by using command line?
[06:11] <Kyral> "paravirualization" is the right word
[06:11] <brettzilla> how do you reinstall compiz?
[06:11] <scifi> Kyral: so its already possible with xen and linux distros ?
[06:11] <Kyral> scifi: yah
[06:11] <Kyral> scifi: Xen isn't another OS
[06:11] <NoUse> Pulgoki you can but it probably won't do much good, which version of the kernel are you currently running?
[06:12] <Pulgoki> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root root    26 2006-03-20 18:44 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12- 10-386
[06:12] <Pulgoki> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root root    25 2006-03-20 09:24 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6 .12-9-386
[06:12] <scifi> Kyral: yeh i meant USING xen along with linux
[06:12] <Kyral> scifi: you use a patched Linux Kernel(s) and a piece of software known as the Hypervisor
[06:13] <Kyral> There is a couple of HowTos for XenDebian and XenBreezy on HowtoForge
[06:13] <Pulgoki> NoUse: apparently 2.6.12-10-386
[06:13] <scifi> Kyral: maybe virtualisation will become part of linux distros by default
[06:14] <Kyral> scifi: maybe
[06:14] <Kyral> I think Xen is going into the Kernels by default
[06:14] <chamo> does anyone have issue with FGLRX as I do ? I can't get ride of MESA since 3 days.
[06:14] <NoUse> Pulgoki run 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.12-10-386'
[06:14] <NoUse> Pulgoki then try upgrading
[06:15] <scifi> hey apparently vmware works for windows and linux ?
[06:15] <Kyral> scifi: yes
[06:16] <DrBanzai> Can anyone here help me get my portable MP3 player to work under Ubuntu?
[06:16] <Kyral> the reason Xen doesn't run Windows is because you need to patch the kernel of whatever OS you plan to run
[06:16] <Kyral> and we all know how MS doesn't like people toying with their kernel :P
[06:16] <serp> I just started kdm instead of gdm
[06:16] <serp> I see no difference :(
[06:16] <serp> except the login screen
[06:16] <Kyral> serp: welcome to the truth
[06:16] <Kyral> they do the same thing, just a different style
[06:16] <serp> no, it looks exactly the same
[06:17] <idefix> if I give one of you a username password combination you could theoretically speaking use my desktop showing me all sorts of cool stuff, right?
[06:17] <serp> maybe I did smething wrong
[06:17] <Kyral> much like GNOME/KDE/XFCE/etc etc etc
[06:17] <NoUse> serp you need to select different sessions to change between kde and gnome
[06:17] <NoUse> serp use the session menu at the login screen
[06:17] <scifi> Kyral: not sure how vmware works, i have to "install" my ubuntu onto XP? or wud i be able to use vmware to "link" my seperate xp & ubuntu installations that i have now ?
[06:17] <Kyral> scifi: no, that wouldn't work
[06:18] <Kyral> scifi: I heard Qemu can do something like that (load an OS on another partition into the Emulator session) but I dunno about VMWare
[06:18] <scifi> so how does vmware work ?
[06:18] <Kyral> what do you mean how does it work?
[06:18] <scifi> i have to install linux on xp ?
[06:18] <Kyral> scifi: what are you trying to do exactly?
[06:19] <DrBanzai> Anyway I can get the windows driver for my MP3 player to work under wine or something?
[06:19] <scifi> Kyral: switch from ubuntu to xp without rebooting
[06:19] <XamDM> scifi, you can run vmware on windows ore linux and install another os as guest
[06:19] <Kyral> XamDM: I think he wants to load his Ubuntu install without having to reboot
[06:19] <Kyral> from XP
[06:19] <Pulgoki> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13861 more errors
[06:19] <Kyral> and vice-versa
[06:19] <scifi> yes Kyral thats it
[06:20] <Kyral> scifi: IIRC you can't do that ATM
[06:20] <gymsmoke> isn't the keyring password the same as the sudo password for the primary user ?
[06:20] <XamDM> scifi, install a host-os ubuntu ore debian and rund windows and ubuntu as guest in vmware
[06:20] <Pulgoki> NoUse: the first time i tried but had the gui updater open still
[06:20] <Kyral> XamDM: but that wouldn't be his install
[06:20] <NoUse> Pulgoki run 'sudo apt-get -f install' then try the reinstall command, then try upgrading
[06:20] <Pulgoki> im sure that was the first error
[06:20] <XamDM> scifi, this won't hav 3d-acceleration!!!
[06:20] <prg2020> Can someone tell me where to place xscreensaver& so that it starts upon login?
[06:21] <XamDM> Kyral, you can modify an existing install to work in vmware
[06:21] <Kyral> XamDM: IIRC, he has two installs right now. An Ubuntu Install and an XP install
[06:21] <Kyral> He wants to load one or the other without rebooting
[06:21] <BoD[] > Hello !
[06:21] <Kyral> Why you would want to is beyond me
[06:21] <RayFredPip> hello,my system crashed just now
[06:21] <Kyral> the performance hit would be nasty to the Guest OS
[06:21] <RayFredPip> why?
[06:21] <XamDM> Kyral, vmware can boot an OS from a real partition, he just needs to modify fstab etc.
[06:21] <Kyral> RayFredPip: that is one of the worst questions ever
[06:22] <Kyral> RayFredPip: way too general
[06:22] <RayFredPip> my mouse cant use
[06:22] <Kyral> RayFredPip: I could give you 1000 reasons why it MIGHT have crashed
[06:22] <Kyral> RayFredPip: but witthout more info
[06:22] <gymsmoke> isn't the keyring password the same as the sudo password for the primary user ?
[06:22] <BoD[] > Hey funny you guys talking about vmware and such
[06:22] <RayFredPip> I cant use my mouse ,the pointer does not move
[06:22] <lwizardl> is there a way to run .net windows programs on ubuntu ?
[06:22] <BoD[] > I just installed ubuntu on windows virtual server
[06:22] <Kyral> RayFredPip: is it plugged in?
[06:22] <ism720> after i finish dl'n ubuntu i have to create cd for install?
[06:22] <BoD[] > and ... it works except X
[06:22] <Pulgoki> hmm
[06:22] <NoUse> ism720 yes
[06:22] <Kyral> lwizardl: Uhh, maybe Mono?
[06:23] <Pulgoki> this is very strange
[06:23] <lwizardl> Kyral, mono?
[06:23] <Kyral> Mono, the Open Source implementation of the .NET Framework
[06:23] <BoD[] > Is there a way to exit from X, on the logon page?
[06:23] <Kyral> but I don't know much about it
[06:23] <Kyral> BoD[] : to a VT?
[06:23] <gymsmoke> i'm trying to connect via login ftp to my colo box (using nautilus), and the dialog comes up with "enter password for default keyring to unlock"
[06:23] <BoD[] > Kyral: yeah
[06:23] <Kyral> BoD[] : CTRL+ALT+F1
[06:23] <Pulgoki> NoUse:  I keep getting the same error even with the -f   |   unable to make backup link of `./boot/config-2.6.12-10-386' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[06:23] <Pulgoki> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[06:23] <RayFredPip> Kyral, I beat my desk when I was laughing ,and then my system crashed
[06:23] <BoD[] > Kyral: ahh :) thanks I'll try
[06:23] <prg2020> Hi, has anyone installed xscreensaver on their ubuntu dist?  How did you get it to start automatically upon login?  What is the proper file to put the command in?
[06:24] <NoUse> Pulgoki pastebin the output of 'mount'
[06:24] <Kyral> RayFredPip: maybe thats the problem
[06:24] <gymsmoke> i tried giving the sudo password, but it's not taking it
[06:24] <gerberad> NoUse: Same unmet dependencies
[06:24] <Kyral> BoD[] : to go back use "CTRL+ALT+F7"
[06:24] <NoUse> gerberad I think you might have hosed your system using those 3rd party repos
[06:24] <scifi> Kyral: why would i want to do that?? because CS runs perfectly on XP and it means everytime i want to play a game i have to log out of ubuntu and reboot into xp. Yes ive tried wine, dont want to bother with cedega
[06:24] <carv> hi, i am not able to mount my crypted fs after upgrading dapper (cryptsetup package)
[06:24] <Kyral> scifi: I can guarentee you CS won't work fine under the strain of two OSs
[06:25] <RayFredPip> Kyral, and there is a big noise came from my laptop
[06:25] <Kyral> RayFredPip: after you hit it?
[06:25] <scifi> so basically its not possible yet
[06:25] <RayFredPip> Kyral, yes ,and the harddisk ndicator light kept on for a long time
[06:26] <Kyral> RayFredPip: I think I found the problem
[06:26] <gymsmoke> help
[06:26] <Kyral> RayFredPip: you hit it :P
[06:26] <RayFredPip> Kyral, with a big noise
[06:26] <RayFredPip> Kyral, and then I reboot
[06:26] <RayFredPip> Kyral, it is normal now
[06:26] <gymsmoke> isn't the default keyring password the same as the sudo password ?
[06:26] <Kyral> RayFredPip: You said you hit it right lol
[06:26] <Pulgoki> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13862
[06:26] <gerberad> NoUse: What it comes down to, I just want a fairly new version of Banshee.  Be one in the repo is 10.4, the new one is was past that, so I was going to compile it myself.   But without the glib-dev, do you have a suggestion on how I could get it?
[06:26] <Kyral> scifi: It might work, if your computer is powerful enough
[06:26] <RayFredPip> Kyral, I hit on my desk ,my laptop in on my desk
[06:27] <gymsmoke> how do i reset the default keyring password
[06:27] <Kyral> RayFredPip: how hard?
[06:27] <NoUse> gerberad wait two weeks for dapper
[06:27] <gymsmoke> sounds like a Hardware problem
[06:27] <mpmc> I'm getting really scratchy Audio with my Sound Blaster Live :s
[06:27] <gymsmoke> anyone ever used keyrings ?
[06:27] <NoUse> Pulgoki why is your /boot partition a vfat partition?
[06:27] <scifi> actually this might be possible with a KVM switch ?
[06:28] <Kyral> scifi: you'd need two computers :P
[06:28] <Pulgoki> NoUse: yes.  100 meg drive
[06:28] <NoUse> Pulgoki why?
[06:28] <gerberad> NoUse: sounds good.  To update to Dapper, can I just get a cd add it to the sources.list, and go from there?
[06:28] <RayFredPip> Kyral, what?
[06:28] <Kyral> RayFredPip: Think about this logically
[06:28] <NoUse> !tell gerberad about upgrade
[06:28] <gymsmoke> apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:28] <RayFredPip> Kyral, I think it is a problem to my harddisk
[06:28] <scifi> hmmm yeh id need both OS's logged on simultaneously
[06:28] <Pulgoki> NoUse: not trying to be rude, but what difference does it make?
[06:28] <gymsmoke> change sources to dapper
[06:28] <Kyral> RayFredPip: It was working fine before you hit the thing right?
[06:28] <DrBanzai> Can anyone here help me get my portable MP3 player to work under Ubuntu?
[06:28] <gymsmoke> first
[06:28] <RayFredPip> Kyral, of course
[06:28] <NoUse> Pulgoki vfat is a windows file system, you need a linux paritition
[06:28] <Kyral> RayFredPip: and now it has abnormalities
[06:28] <Kyral> right?
[06:28] <pike_> DrBanzai: cant mount it?
[06:28] <NoUse> Pulgoki thats whats breaking your kernel upgrade
[06:29] <gymsmoke> how do i reset the default keyring password
[06:29] <Pulgoki> NoUse: but its worked before
[06:29] <RayFredPip> Kyral, now ,it is OK
[06:29] <Kyral> RayFredPip: then wahts the problem?
[06:29] <NoUse> Pulgoki you need an ext3 parition for /boot
[06:29] <freeflying> anyone know how to use frambuffer defaultly?
[06:29] <NoUse> Pulgoki there is no reason to use vfat
[06:29] <Pulgoki> NoUse: i installed that way for multi boot system a long time ago
[06:29] <Kyral> scifi: a KVM just allows you to switch one keyboard, mouse, and monitor between two computers
[06:29] <Kyral> or more computers...
[06:29] <DrBanzai> pike_, Nope, the kernel sees it as a USB 1.1 device, but then nothing else happens as far as which SCSI device to mount it as or anything
[06:29] <NoUse> Pulgoki I'm not gonna argue you with, you need to fix that
[06:30] <Pulgoki> NoUse: is it possible to fix without a total re-install?
[06:30] <NoUse> Pulgoki I honestly don' tknow
[06:30] <gymsmoke> proftpd is running on the server (ubuntu 5.10) but no file transfers are occurring
[06:30] <NoUse> Pulgoki I would post this situation to the ubuntu forums
[06:30] <Pulgoki> NoUse: dont get me wrong, im not trying to argue, ive just had this setup for years with no trouble up untill now
[06:30] <Pulgoki> NoUse: ok, i'll try that
[06:30] <NoUse> Pulgoki dpkg is probably trying to make a symlink or something that vfat doesn't support
[06:31] <gymsmoke> i've tried both commandline and nautilus from ubuntu desktop, but neither one seems to be doing anything
[06:31] <RayFredPip> Kyral, but when I reboot and login ,I signed my name and passwd ,there was a metionwindow said that GDM_failedsafe is not installed on your computer
[06:31] <Pulgoki> NoUse: ok,  i'll do some more looking into it.  thanks for helping me track it down this far
[06:31] <NoUse> Pulgoki sure
[06:31] <Kyral> RayFredPip: then reinstall GDM
[06:31] <gymsmoke> on the commandline i get a good connect, but then any command (ls, pwd, etc) doesn't respond
[06:31] <pike_> DrBanzai: im sorry not too experienced but when i mount my mp3 player i normally ls -t /dev | head and one of the things it responds with is like sdb1 or sda1 and then i sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0
[06:32] <gymsmoke> and the server shows the connection as "IDLE"
[06:32] <RayFredPip> Kyral, necessary ? my ubuntu is OK now
[06:32] <gymsmoke> in nautilus, the cursor is spinning, as though waiting for something
[06:32] <Kyral> RayFredPip: everything is working fine now?
[06:32] <gymsmoke> but the file list never appears
[06:32] <Kyral> RayFredPip: completely?
[06:32] <RayFredPip> Kyral, yes
[06:32] <gymsmoke> and the connection on the server still shows as "IDLE"
[06:32] <chripher> where is the wine filesystem ?
[06:32] <Kyral> RayFredPip: ....then what is the problem...
[06:32] <gerberad> NoUse: Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it!
[06:32] <RayFredPip> Kyral, no noise,the mouse works fine
[06:32] <chripher> !wine
[06:32] <gymsmoke> i've stopped and restarted the ftp daemon, but it doesn't seem to have any effect
[06:33] <tatters> if I add a second seperate hard drive for storage do I just format it as ext 3 ?
[06:33] <chripher> DBO: you here
[06:33] <gymsmoke> there are two other dialog boxes on the desktop right now that just say "deleting files"
[06:33] <gymsmoke> but there is no activity from either one
[06:33] <gymsmoke> and i can't close them
[06:34] <RayFredPip> Kyral, I resarted my computer after I found the problem ,and now it is OK
[06:34] <gymsmoke> anyone here have any suggestions?
[06:34] <Kyral> RayFredPip: then....*blank look*
[06:34] <RayFredPip> Kyral, what do you mean ?
[06:34] <Kyral> RayFredPip: what is the problem...what do you need help with...
[06:35] <gymsmoke> now the copy dialogs are just timing out
[06:35] <gymsmoke> with no way to stop them or close them
[06:35] <gymsmoke> anyone know anything about ftp?
[06:35] <tatters> file tranfer protocol
[06:35] <DrBanzai> pike_, Hmmm...no luck there...thanks though
[06:36] <RayFredPip> Kyral, I think that my hit on the desk caused a problem to my harddisk
[06:36] <Kyral> RayFredPip: and?
[06:37] <gymsmoke> what does 1000 9799 9796 0 12:18 ? 00:00:00 proftpd myuser - 200.12.12.125: IDLE mean?
[06:37] <slackern> gymsmoke, exactly what it says :), myuser is connected to proftpd from ip number 200.12.12.125 and is idle.
[06:37] <RayFredPip> Kyral, and what's else ? my mouse pointer didnot move
[06:37] <Kyral> RayFredPip: but you said it works now after a reboot yes?
[06:38] <gymsmoke> slackern: except that connecting is all i can do...
[06:38] <gymsmoke> slackern: ls, pwd, etc don't return anything
[06:38] <slackern> gymsmoke, is the machine firewalled?
[06:38] <RayFredPip> Kyral, yes
[06:38] <BoD[] > ... I just made a terrible mistake, I did sudo passwd then I press enter
[06:38] <gymsmoke> slackern: iptables is running, but this was working last night...
[06:38] <Kyral> BoD[] : change it NOW!!!
[06:38] <BoD[] > Now my user account can't login, and I don't know what to do
[06:39] <BoD[] > Kyral: how ?
[06:39] <gymsmoke> slackern: and the port is allowed
[06:39] <RayFredPip> Kyral, and I pressed any key on my keyboard ,no use
[06:39] <Kyral> you activated the root account with a blank password!
[06:39] <RayFredPip> Kyral, So I had to reboot
[06:39] <Kyral> BoD[] : login as root and use passwd!
[06:39] <pike_> BoD[] : sudo passwd -l root will deactivate it
[06:39] <Kyral> pike_: he can't login with his normal account
[06:40] <RayFredPip> Kyral, no,I used a user account
[06:40] <pike_> ah nm
[06:40] <Kyral> RayFredPip: I was talking to BoD[] 
[06:40] <Kyral> RayFredPip: but everything works after the reboot yes?
[06:40] <RayFredPip> Kyral, yes
[06:40] <BoD[] > When I try to login as root with an empty password it says login incorrect
[06:40] <Kyral> RayFredPip: and the problem is? Sometimes all you need is a reboot to fix things
[06:41] <RayFredPip> Kyral, I just ask you that why the system told to me GDM_failedsafe is not installed
[06:41] <Kyral> RayFredPip: but it doesn't ask now?
[06:41] <Kyral> or tell you now?
[06:42] <coincoin> hello
[06:42] <slackern> gymsmoke, had someone at the door hold on.
[06:42] <enyaw> HELLO!
[06:43] <Kyral> enyaw: no caps
[06:43] <gymsmoke> slackern: ok
[06:43] <coincoin> somebody knows how to have the address bar on nautilus with ubuntu 5.10
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> coincoin,  heh - thers some key combo that shows it.. then it goes away..
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> coincoin,  i just can never rember the key combo
[06:43] <coincoin> yes CTRL+L
[06:43] <simp> hello, can you reinstall GRUB with ubuntu 5.10 install CD? because i made a stupid mistake and installed XP after ubuntu
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> !grub
[06:43] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:44] <Kyral> damn Dr_Willis, beat me to it!
[06:44] <coincoin> yes you can
[06:44] <coincoin> simp
[06:44] <enyaw> hello!
[06:44] <coincoin> there is a tutorial on the ubuntu site
[06:44] <simp> okey i'l read the links :)
[06:44] <Kyral> enyaw: hello....how can we help you
[06:44] <coincoin> you can also do it with floppy
[06:44] <gymsmoke> slackern: port 21 on both input and output is set to ACCEPT in iptables
[06:45] <coincoin> but I don't want to have to type CTRL+L each time I want the address bar
[06:45] <slackern> gymsmoke, if a ftp server is firewalled it needs more ports both on the client and server side opened for traffic to work properly
[06:45] <coincoin> I want to have it like in the older versions
[06:45] <mutante> gymsmoke: ftp uses 20 and 21
[06:45] <mutante> one for data ,one for control
[06:45] <gymsmoke> slackern: i'm the only user, and both 20 and 21 are open
[06:46] <slackern> gymsmoke, and the client connecting?
[06:46] <coincoin> is there a .conf file to configure nautilus
[06:46] <coincoin> ?
[06:46] <mutante> if more needs to be open depends, if its passive mode or not
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> coincoin,  now ya know one the reasons i dislike gnome so much.
[06:46] <slackern> gymsmoke, http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html maybe that will explain it a bit.
[06:46] <gymsmoke> slackern: is me from ubuntu 5.10... i'm running firestarter, and the outbound traffic policy is permissive by default
[06:46] <lwizard> is there a website to find names for linux veriants of windows apps?
[06:46] <BoD[] > my god
[06:46] <BoD[] > when you do sudo passwd, it says "password:" ... it means the new password or the old one ?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> coincoin,  there may be a way to set it back to the address type bar permently. but ive never seen it mentioned anywhere.
[06:46] <coincoin> you are on KDE Dr_Willis ?
[06:46] <Kyral> lwizard: like?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> coincoin,  yep - i tend to use KDE.
[06:47] <gymsmoke> slackern: and this was working up until this morning
[06:47] <Kyral> KDE is nice..
[06:47] <_jason> coincoin: there is a gconf-editor setting for that
[06:47] <gymsmoke> slackern: the only change i've made is to add the russian mail server to my iptables to drop
[06:47] <coincoin> you have searched it Dr_Willis ?
[06:47] <lwizard> Kyral, one app is called "grabit!"
[06:47] <_jason> coincoin: the nautilus on dapper actually has that as an option in its preferences but in breezy I'm not sure
[06:47] <Kyral> lwizard: what does it do?
[06:47] <coincoin> gconf-editor on the cmd line
[06:47] <coincoin> ?
[06:47] <_jason> NoUse: yes
[06:47] <_jason> coincoin: yes
[06:47] <_jason> NoUse: sorry :0
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> coincoin,  since i tend to use KDE.. i dont mess with the gnome config editor stuff much
[06:48] <lwizard> Kyral, usenet application for reading and downloading
[06:48] <coincoin> yes I know this app but I have searched the option but I have nerver found it
[06:48] <Kyral> lwizard: seeing as usenet has been along as long as Unix...just search the Apt Repos for "usenet" :P
[06:48] <marc> viva el sevilla
[06:48] <lwizard> ?
[06:49] <_jason> coincoin: /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry
[06:49] <Kyral> lwizard: you know how to search for packages yes?
[06:49] <simp> and another question... with ubuntu can you choose do you wan't to use KDE or Gnome, because in sometimes i like to use KDE and sometimes i like Gnome, don't know how this happend, propably because of redhat :)
[06:49] <coincoin> thanks you
[06:49] <coincoin> _jason
[06:49] <lwizard> Kyral, i know apt-get install
[06:49] <BoD[] > MY GOD I just killed my linux :(
[06:49] <marc> someone from spain?
[06:49] <Kyral> lwizard: learn apt-cache search :P
[06:49] <bbrazil> !es
[06:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:49] <NoUse> simp just install both and you can select which one you want with session menu on the login screen
[06:49] <BoD[] > by typing "enter" too fast
[06:50] <Kyral> simp: you can use either or, or XFCE, or Fluxbox, or....
[06:50] <simp> okei, i thought that i have to have 2 operating systems :)
[06:50] <coincoin> yes it worked very well thank you _jason
[06:50] <_jason> coincoin: np
[06:50] <coincoin> sorry for my english I am french
[06:50] <LadyNikon> sorry for my english I am american
[06:50] <Kyral> simp: I've had Fluxbox, KDE, GNOME, Enlightenment, and XFCE installed at the same time
[06:50] <voraistos> hey anybody knows a good replacement for skype ?
[06:50] <Kyral> lol @ LadyNikon
[06:50] <LadyNikon> fluxbox rules the world!
[06:50] <simp> okey :)
[06:51] <coincoin> but skype works very well on ubuntu no ?
[06:51] <voraistos> nope
[06:51] <voraistos> not really
[06:51] <simp> coincoin only thing i know in french is bonjour casser oui etc... :P
[06:51] <Kyral> Ekiga is good, or so I have heard
[06:51] <gymsmoke> slackern: ok, i ran ftp -d on the connection from commandline
[06:51] <coincoin> you have the latest version of it ?
[06:51] <voraistos> yea
[06:51] <simp> have to learn french at school
[06:51] <coincoin> ok simp
[06:51] <voraistos> and skype usually takes a lot of band
[06:51] <gymsmoke> slackern: ftp: setsockopt: Bad file descriptor
[06:51] <malachi> hello
[06:51] <Kyral> voraistos: any VOIP will do that
[06:52] <voraistos> skype does more than gnome meeting
[06:52] <malachi> does anyone know how to setup wanadoo wireless in ubuntu?
[06:52] <coincoin> ok sorry I do not know replacement for it !
[06:52] <gymsmoke> slackern:then, after i'm logged in, 'ls' produces - ftp: setsockopt (ignored): Permission denied
[06:52] <coincoin> you are french malachi
[06:52] <coincoin> ?
[06:52] <voraistos> wanadoo is in england ;)
[06:53] <coincoin> I did not know that
[06:53] <malachi> coincoin: no, i'm not
[06:53] <slackern> gymsmoke, oh the problem is on localhost connections too?
[06:53] <malachi> coincoin: can you help me?
[06:53] <gymsmoke> slackern:i have 2 other ubuntu boxes that i'm trying the connection from - both remote
[06:54] <coincoin> yes I can try you have the livebox ?
[06:54] <malachi> coincoin: yes
[06:55] <coincoin> you have a WEP key ?
[06:55] <malachi> coincoin: i have everything
[06:55] <slackern> gymsmoke, can you ftp from the same machine as the server is running on? like 'ftp localhost'
[06:55] <malachi> coincoin: but, i can't connect my laptop to the network
[06:55] <pike_> gymsmoke: i got that when i tried to setup ftp on nonstandard ports.  you can always use openssh-server instead of ftp
[06:56] <coincoin> with the wifi ? you have configured your wireless card on your laptop ?
[06:56] <PrimoTurbo> Why the new dapper boot logo so ugly?
[06:56] <malachi> coincoin: my card is detected
[06:56] <slackern> PrimoTurbo, hehe i was asking myself that very same thing today :)
[06:57] <malachi> coincoin: but, when i try to connect, dhcp doesn't work
[06:57] <gymsmoke> slackern: i'll try it
[06:57] <gymsmoke> pike_: how can you transfer files that way?
[06:58] <gymsmoke> i just tried ftp / passive , from the client... same effect
[06:58] <slackern> gymsmoke, you can transfer files via ssh using the scp command
[06:58] <coincoin> try this : you may have two buttons on your livebox marked 1 and 2
[06:58] <pike_> well i just install openssh-server and then from command line 'sftp ipaddress'
[06:58] <slackern> and what pike just said :)
[06:58] <coincoin> push the "1" button
[06:58] <coincoin> and after that try to get your ip via dhcp
[06:59] <gymsmoke> slackern: works
[06:59] <zednet> omg
[06:59] <malachi> coincoin: link to my card info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386
[06:59] <gymsmoke> slackern: ftp 127.0.0.1 is ok
[06:59] <zednet> autojoin to ubuntu o.O
[07:00] <slackern> gymsmoke, hmm i have no other ideas then other than read on how passive/active transfers work and make sure all the correct ports are opened and allowed for both server and clients.
[07:01] <malachi> coincoin: link to my card info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13864
[07:01] <gymsmoke> slackern: it worked until this morning
[07:01] <coincoin> i am looking at it
[07:01] <gymsmoke> slackern: the only change was to add a drop for the russian mail server
[07:01] <slackern> gymsmoke, have you tried removing that rule?
[07:02] <gymsmoke> slackern: i guess i have to
[07:02] <Gizmo_The_Great> Hi all. Anyone know how to set up WPA Wireless encryption with Ubuntu?. I've read both these How To and I get errors with both...
[07:02] <Gizmo_The_Great> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[07:02] <Gizmo_The_Great> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html
[07:02] <shutdown> Hello everybody... I am Shutdown and I am 16. I come from Italy. Is there any Italian?
[07:02] <coincoin> do you have try pushing the "1" button ?
[07:02] <gymsmoke> slackern: -A INPUT -s 194.67.23.0/24 -j DROP
[07:02] <NoUse> !it
[07:02] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:02] <Jurgeni> I have a problem with time zone, I can't make it to stay on the zone I want (Europe/Helsinki), every time I look it it's Europe/Marienhamn although I changed it
[07:03] <gymsmoke> slackern: doesn't look like it should effect anything near 209.208 ... anything, does it?
[07:03] <simp> if i remmember right then estonia/helsinki/marienhamn were the same timezone?
[07:03] <malachi> coincoin: dmesg log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13866
[07:03] <slackern> gymsmoke, no it doesn't but im not quite sure since im not all that into iptables :)
[07:03] <simp> !est
[07:03] <ubotu> simp: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:03] <simp> :)
[07:04] <Gizmo_The_Great> Hi all. Anyone know how to set up WPA Wireless encryption with Ubuntu?. I've read both these How To and I get errors with both...
[07:04] <slackern> gymsmoke, but if thats the only thing that changed i would check it out though.
[07:04] <Gizmo_The_Great> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html
[07:04] <malachi> coincoin: i've tried pushing the "1" utton
[07:04] <Gizmo_The_Great> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[07:04] <shutdown> Hello, _jason!!
[07:04] <malachi> coincoin: the "1" utton doesn't help
[07:04] <gymsmoke> slackern: yeah, i guess i'll remove it and see reload the ruleset and see what that does
[07:04] <slackern> gymsmoke, but the thing that you could connect with clients but just not list sounds like the regular passive/active problem to me.
[07:05] <Gizmo_The_Great> Is it fair to say that no one can help regarding the WPA at the moment?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> Gizmo_The_Great,  ive totally given up on wireless .... again. :P lol
[07:06] <Gizmo_The_Great> lol
[07:06] <pike_> why encrypt it will just be cracked?
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> My router can block based on MAC. wich is nice...
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> but i never have gotten wireless working with linux, in a reliable fashion.
[07:07] <Jurgeni> is it normal that Firestarter doesn't apply the rules I have made with it until I start the GUI?
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> actually its very Unrelisable under windows as well.
[07:07] <Gizmo_The_Great> Dr_Willis, in my case it's seen the card OK (but as eth1) but I can't configure it to work with WPA (it seems to have WEP built in but not WPA) and the installation of wpasupplicant has not helped
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Gizmo_The_Great,  many of the oklder wireless card can do WEP but not WPA
[07:07] <Gizmo_The_Great> WPA is very hard to crACK
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> Gizmo_The_Great,  i have an old Laptop card that can only do WEP
[07:08] <felipe_> Someone is using my nick can I identify myself with the nickserv so I can get my nick back?
[07:08] <Gizmo_The_Great> Aaah, the laptop is about 3 years old. I wonder if that is it
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> Gizmo_The_Great,  that would be my guess
[07:08] <malachi> what does this mean: "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready"
[07:08] <Gizmo_The_Great> darn it to hell
[07:08] <coincoin> malachi: when have you this msg ?
[07:09] <NoUse> felipe_ you can only do that if you've already registered
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Heh - gee was i actually able to Help? :P wow.
[07:09] <felipe_> NoUse, I'm already registered
[07:09] <malachi> coincoin: after connection has failed
[07:09] <Gizmo_The_Great> Dr_Willis, cheers
[07:09] <NoUse> felipe_ /msg NickServ help
[07:09] <rasi> hi
[07:09] <rasi> hi to all
[07:09] <Gizmo_The_Great> malachi, means your wirless link is not ready or working i think
[07:10] <felipe_> NoUse, OK
[07:10] <rasi> yeah i've a question. could any1 answer me pls?
[07:10] <malachi> Gizmo_The_Great: how do i fix it?
[07:10] <NoUse> rasi have you asked your question?
[07:11] <rasi> i have xine in ubuntu. I've installed the latest version. But there is no sound during the video runtime.
[07:11] <felipe_> NoUse, can I change my nick without disconnecting?
[07:12] <NoUse> felipe_ I'm not sure
[07:12] <NoUse> felipe_ oh, yeah /nick nickname
[07:12] <felipe_> NoUse, thanks
[07:12] <coincoin> malachi: you have a button on your laptop to set your wireless card up ???
[07:12] <NoUse> rasi check the xine settings for which sound output system its using, try esd or alsa
[07:12] <felipe__> NoUse, thanks again
[07:13] <malachi> coincoin: it's a PCMCIA card.
[07:13] <gymsmoke> slackern: no change... i'm gonna reboot this box and see what's up  -- brb
[07:13] <MetaMorfoziS> hanybody has an idea what about the macromedia flashplayer in the future?
[07:13] <tchize> Hello everyone
[07:13] <tchize> I need to find docs on how to configure wifi in command line, does somebody have pointers?
[07:13] <coincoin> malachi: have you try with a static ip ?
[07:14] <malachi> coincoin: how do i set that up?
[07:14] <coincoin> malachi: in the cmd line type this
[07:15] <coincoin> malachi: your card is eth0, eth1 or other ?
[07:15] <tchize> ok, please private message me if you have links to docs about wifi configuration in command line on ubuntu, the official docs are quite badly navigatable and it's impossible to find something there unfortunately
[07:15] <tchize> thank you :)
[07:15] <malachi> coincoin: wlan0
[07:16] <coincoin> malachi : ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.69 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[07:17] <coincoin> malachi: and then try a ping 192.168.1.1
[07:17] <coincoin> to ping the livebox
[07:18] <coincoin> and tell me the result
[07:18] <DrBanzai> Does ubuntu support removable USB drives out of the box, or do I have to enable/install that?
[07:19] <spikeb> DrBanzai: yes it does
[07:19] <samuli> in theory anyways and I guess most of the times in practice too.
[07:20] <ronlybonly> mine have worked without fail
[07:20] <DrBanzai> spikeb, Ok, do you think you might be able to help me?  I've got an MP3 player and an external hard drive, neither of which will work for me
[07:20] <spikeb> hmm
[07:20] <spikeb> DrBanzai: probably not - haven't had any problems myself, so i dont know how to fix them
[07:20] <malachi> coincoin: it's going on and on and on...
[07:20] <DrBanzai> spikeb, Ok, thanks anyway...
[07:21] <ronlybonly> spiked, what version of ubuntu are you runing?
[07:21] <Alcides> espaol
[07:21] <malachi> coincoin: "64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=196 ttl=255 time=1.94 ms
[07:21] <malachi> "
[07:21] <coincoin> malachi: so that's good
[07:21] <coincoin> malachi: you are pinging your livebox with your wifi card
[07:21] <eeos> hi there
[07:22] <malachi> coincoin: how long will i take?
[07:22] <eeos> hi there
[07:22] <coincoin> type CTRL+C
[07:22] <malachi> coincoin: *it
[07:22] <eeos> do you know if there are drivers for the agere ethernet controller et-13x in ubuntu?
[07:22] <coincoin> malachi: now push the "1" button to have the wireless DEL on your livebox blinking
[07:23] <coincoin> malachi: and on the cmd line type : ifconfig wlan0 down
[07:23] <coincoin> malachi: and : dhclient wlan0
[07:23] <coincoin> malachi: and tell me what you get
[07:25] <malachi> coincoin: "DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval ...."
[07:25] <coincoin> malachi: and ...
[07:25] <PrimoTurbo> What's a good place to install applications, for example swiftfox
[07:25] <malachi> coincoin: "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping."
[07:26] <PrimoTurbo> somewhere where the user has rights and can update a file
[07:26] <MetaMorfoziS> PrimoTurbo: /opt/something
[07:26] <PrimoTurbo> /opt/ doesn't seem to work
[07:26] <MetaMorfoziS> oh
[07:26] <PrimoTurbo> needs root
[07:26] <coincoin> malachi: type CTRL+C and still on the cmd line : ifconfig wlan0 down
[07:26] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[07:26] <MetaMorfoziS> ..
[07:26] <PrimoTurbo> something without root
[07:26] <MetaMorfoziS> but you can add to afolder
[07:26] <MetaMorfoziS> the good permissions
[07:26] <coincoin> malachi: and go to System => Administration => network
[07:26] <MetaMorfoziS> or if it for only one user
[07:27] <PrimoTurbo> yeah 1 user
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> /home/user/sg
[07:27] <coincoin> select wlan0 and then properties
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> or if you want
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> make a folder named "progz" @ Desktop
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> and all other programs isntalled to that dir
[07:27] <coincoin> select enable this connection
[07:27] <DrBanzai> spikeb, Ah ha!  Apparently, ubuntu dosen't like my USB hub or something...if I plug it straight in, it sees it fine
[07:27] <coincoin> DHCP
[07:27] <gymsmoke> slackern: no go... i think the ftp prob is coming from the clients
[07:27] <PrimoTurbo> A folder under Home should be fine right?
[07:27] <PrimoTurbo> for 1 user anyways
[07:27] <coincoin> and type your WEP key
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[07:27] <PrimoTurbo> alright thanks
[07:27] <coincoin> then OK
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> it's right anywhere..
[07:28] <coincoin> And Activate
[07:28] <MetaMorfoziS> not at all
[07:29] <malachi> coincoin: is key type hexadecimal?
[07:29] <Dingo> can anyone recommend me a torrent downloader (except azureus) that can download individual files?
[07:29] <coincoin> malachi : yes
[07:29] <malachi> coincoin: configuration = DHCP?
[07:29] <coincoin> yes
[07:29] <MetaMorfoziS> Dingo why azureus not good?
[07:29] <MetaMorfoziS> but i think you need google
[07:29] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[07:30] <Dingo> MetaMorfoziS: it is quite heavy and makes games get slow!
[07:30] <thoreauputic> what's wrong with the gnome defaul torrent client?
[07:30] <thoreauputic> 8default
[07:30] <MetaMorfoziS> yes it's true, because it's written in java:)
[07:31] <MetaMorfoziS> +"bittorent client" +"for linux"
[07:31] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ google?
[07:31] <gymsmoke> slackern: there is no firewall turned on atm on the client
[07:31] <naomi> i'm trying to download msn games from the internet onto my laptop, but i cant open it once it has downloaded, does anyone know whats goin on?
[07:31] <beerockxs> does a free pdf plugin for mozilla exist? And I mean free as in speech, not as in beer.
[07:31] <malachi> coincoin: what next?
[07:32] <spikeb> naomi: they're windows only
[07:32] <coincoin> choose "validate" or "ok"
[07:32] <coincoin> In french it is "Valider"
[07:32] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not know about the default gnome client, but i think you may try it:)
[07:32] <naomi> has anyone got any good game sites that i can use?
[07:32] <thoreauputic> beerockxs: not sure but I think it's possible to embed evince in firefox (I don't bother)
[07:32] <malachi> coincoin: what happens now?
[07:32] <spikeb> naomi: well, any place that lets you play online instead of downloading is a good start
[07:33] <gymsmoke> iptables-restore < filename will load the ruleset in filename, right ?
[07:33] <MetaMorfoziS> naomi: www.linuxgamers.net
[07:33] <coincoin> clic on the activate button to activate your connection
[07:33] <MetaMorfoziS> or something ismilar, iiirc
[07:33] <malachi> coincoin: after validating
[07:33] <naomi> thanks :)
[07:33] <coincoin> clic the activate button
[07:33] <thoreauputic> MetaMorfoziS: the defult torrent client opens when you click a torrent file in ff
[07:33] <MetaMorfoziS> http://www.linuxgames.com/
[07:33] <MetaMorfoziS> thoreauputic: for me it's not important:D
[07:33] <malachi> coincoin: it shows "wlan0 is active"
[07:34] <coincoin> ok clic the validate button or ok button
[07:34] <coincoin> and launch firefox with a www.google.com
[07:34] <thoreauputic> MetaMorfoziS: OK - well anyway it seems to work fine for me :)
[07:34] <coincoin> to try if you have internet
[07:34] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[07:35] <manux> hello ...some one know how i can change permission to read for a folder and all his subfolders and files ??
[07:35] <Tonren> Hey all... I'm trying to get an Ubuntu Breezy Live CD running on my HP Compaq Presario v2565us (v2000 series), and everything goes fine until it starts loading GNOME.  I get an X11 error and it says it "caught error 11" from the server.  Any ideas?
[07:35] <spikeb> hmm
[07:36] <X3n0n> hello! does anyone have the Ati X1300 drivers properly installed on his computer? I mean with 3d acceleration
[07:36] <coincoin> malachi: it works ?????
[07:36] <NoUse> x3n0n have you tried the wiki instructions?
[07:36] <X3n0n> yes but sais no screens found
[07:37] <coincoin> X3n0n : I was unable to get the 3D acc with the latest ati proprietary drivers
[07:37] <X3n0n> you have that video card?
[07:37] <coincoin> no but a friend of mine yes and we had to install an older version to get the 3D acc
[07:38] <X3n0n> can you please help me? i am desparate!
[07:38] <X3n0n> i need your help
[07:38] <simp> desperate* ?:)
[07:38] <X3n0n> lol
[07:39] <simp> if it isn't some american english stuff again?:)
[07:39] <Seveas> X3n0n, are you using breezy?
[07:39] <X3n0n> yes 5.10
[07:39] <Seveas> won't work, try dapper
[07:39] <Seveas> X1300 is too new for breezy
[07:39] <X3n0n> really?
[07:39] <Seveas> yes
[07:39] <X3n0n> i have to update?
[07:39] <Tonren> Hey, where can I download Dapper Live & Install ISOs?
[07:39] <X3n0n> upgrade*
[07:39] <Seveas> Tonren, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[07:39] <Tonren> thanks
[07:39] <Seveas> X3n0n, yes
[07:40] <coincoin> do you speak french X3n0n because my friend did a tuto but in french at : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=13832
[07:40] <coincoin> Seveas tell us how to install this evil driver ?
[07:40] <X3n0n> coincoin: not even a word!
[07:40] <NoUse> x3n0n try this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[07:40] <coincoin> malachi: does it work ?
[07:40] <mabus> where can I download dapper?
[07:41] <thoreauputic> !dapper
[07:41] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[07:41] <X3n0n> NoUse: have you tried it and works with X1300?
[07:41] <Seveas> coincoin, fglrx? sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$YOURARCH && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:41] <Tonren> What's the difference between Flight 6 and Flight 7?
[07:41] <thoreauputic> mabus: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[07:41] <mabus> http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/ubuntu/iso/dapper/ubuntu-6.06-beta2-install-i386.iso == dapper?
[07:41] <NoUse> x3n0n I stopped buying ATI cards after my experience with their linux support
[07:41] <thoreauputic> Tonren: flight 7 is more recent
[07:41] <Seveas> Tonren, flight 7 is newer
[07:41] <nicolasito> Hello, Is it possible to enter to login Gnome as other user, being the administrator, without the other user's password
[07:41] <nicolasito> Hello, Is it possible to enter to login Gnome as other user, being the administrator, without the other user's password??
[07:41] <Tonren> fair enough
[07:41] <beerockxs> thanks thoreauputic, that works
[07:41] <X3n0n> i have tried this also but no help....i update now
[07:41] <NoUse> x3n0n but the drivers in breezy don't support your card, so you need to install the latest drivers via that page
[07:42] <Seveas> nicolasito, no need to repeat...
[07:42] <coincoin> you don't understand the packet to install
[07:42] <Seveas> and no, that is not posible
[07:42] <nicolasito> seveas, sorry
[07:42] <coincoin> ???
[07:42] <Seveas> you can try sudo -u
[07:42] <Tonren> You can still install from Live CDs, right?  They're not just 'trials"?
[07:42] <coincoin> Seveas: how to install this evil driver ?????
[07:43] <Seveas> Tonren, as of Dapper, you can install from the live CD
[07:43] <X3n0n> wish me good luck! i begin upgrading to dapper!
[07:43] <Seveas> but you will ned the latest daily (newer than flight 7
[07:43] <Tonren> cool
[07:43] <nicolasito> Seveas, I need to access to an user account to config his emule, how can I do it?
[07:43] <Tonren> Seveas: is that in /daily?
[07:44] <mabus> Since dapper is coming out soon... is it a waste to download the iso now? Should I just wait 2 weeks so I don't have to download it again?
[07:44] <X3n0n> used this command: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[07:44] <X3n0n> is it correct?
[07:44] <Tonren> Seveas: /daily-live/current/ ?
[07:44] <Seveas> nicolasito, sudo -H -u user whatever_command_you_want_to_run
[07:44] <Seveas> Tonren, yes
[07:44] <Seveas> X3n0n, yes
[07:44] <ubuntu> bonjour a tous
[07:44] <Seveas> mabus, you can simply update daily
[07:44] <nicolasito> seveas thanks!
[07:45] <mabus> Seveas: So that will leave me with more updates to do every install then, right?
[07:45] <X3n0n> how many mb do i download?
[07:45] <Seveas> mabus, what do you mean?
[07:45] <Seveas> X3n0n, lots
[07:45] <gymsmoke> is there a separate ip_conntrack_ftp for iptables under ubuntu ?
[07:45] <X3n0n> more than a GB
[07:45] <Seveas> no
[07:45] <Seveas> unless you already installed a lot on breezy
[07:45] <mabus> Seveas: If I download the dapper cd now, and in 2 weeks the release comes out and there are some changes between now and then, I will have to download those changes any time I install from my pre-release cd.
[07:45] <Seveas> my latest dist-upgrade was 700-something MB
[07:46] <Absenth> is there a wiki, or how-to out there for turning on, and configuring snmp in ubuntu?
[07:46] <Seveas> mabus, correct
[07:46] <X3n0n> i feel lucky i have a dsl connection!!!
[07:46] <Seveas> hehe
[07:46] <echobinary> .....  so i sez to dis guy..  "Hey! Get Ubuntu!"
[07:46] <mabus> Seveas: thanks
[07:46] <Absenth> X3n0n: once Dapper goes live, I'll be seeding the torrent download with one of the machines in our datacenter with a 10mbps link.
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Absenth,  i though ya just downloaded the SNMP kernel.
[07:47] <Absenth> Dr_Willis: could be...  I'd like to read a bit about it before jumping in with both feet is all.
[07:47] <echobinary> anyone have the experience where thier nvidia card works for openGL direct rendering but not 3D acceleration?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Absenth,  Blasphmy! :P
[07:47] <X3n0n> just failed!!!
[07:48] <Absenth> Dr_Willis: if it was at home, I'd leap, and then look, but this one happens to be in our office :/
[07:48] <X3n0n> couldn't download some files!
[07:48] <HackerGates> si
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Absenth,  bah! :P req a new machine!
[07:48] <gymsmoke> what's the command to see whether or not a module exists and can be loaded ?
[07:48] <Absenth> Dr_Willis: there's an idea :)
[07:49] <Absenth> 2way dual core Opteron, in 32bit should work nicely eh?
[07:49] <sneex> Ive bbuild apache Flood for Ubuntu breezy badger 5.1 -- its not in the multi-verse -- how can  add it?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Absenth,  that would be on for a torrent server. :P
[07:49] <St_Iron> hello
[07:49] <X3n0n> is there a key combination such as alt + F4 in windows?
[07:49] <echobinary> yes
[07:49] <echobinary> windoes has that key combo
[07:50] <echobinary> windows*
[07:50] <Absenth> actually I'll be seeding the dapper torrent with a 2.8ghz Xeon, on a 10mbps full duplex link.
[07:50] <X3n0n> but what is the key combination in ubuntu?
[07:50] <echobinary> alt + F4 too
[07:50] <sneex> try it?
[07:50] <echobinary> i believe
[07:50] <Absenth> X3n0n: I usually open a terminal and kill -9
[07:50] <X3n0n> no such luck
[07:50] <Absenth> X3n0n: but I'm a massichist
[07:51] <HackerGates> ciao
[07:51] <X3n0n> i can't close the upgrade utility which is frozen!
[07:51] <sneex> Ctrl-Alt-Esc creates the Skull Window dialog killer
[07:53] <X3n0n> it does not bring it...
[07:53] <NoUse> x3n0n from a console run 'sudo killall update-manager'
[07:53] <X3n0n> i try that
[07:53] <gymsmoke> anyone know the difference between ip_conntrack_ftp and ip_conntrack_tftp ?
[07:53] <sneex> trivial ftp
[07:53] <miguelsr> hey how do i install my printer is a lexmark z615
[07:54] <X3n0n> no process killed
[07:54] <gymsmoke> sneex: so in order to allow proftpd traffic, the module to load is ip_conntrack_ftp
[07:54] <sneex> ok
[07:55] <gymsmoke> sneex: ok, as in - yes, or ok, as in - i don't know
[07:55] <sneex> sorry
[07:55] <Donovan> uhh im going to sound like a real idiot here, I'm sure...but can anyone tell me where the DCC received files folder is on ubuntu? (using xchat of course)
[07:55] <NoUse> miguelsr system -> admin -> printing
[07:55] <sneex> it shod work as tftp also, whats the issue?
[07:56] <m6s> hello
[07:56] <miguelsr> NoUse: yes but my printer is not by default
[07:56] <m6s> I installed ubunty amd64, and I am trying to figure out how to burn a dvd
[07:56] <sneex> gymsmoke?  is proftpd not working?
[07:56] <NoUse> miguelsr click on 'new printer' and add it
[07:56] <m6s> I installed gnomebaker, but fails to continue after I say 'create' :-(
[07:57] <m6s> as far fro xcdroast, through me a message that I need a prodvd thing
[07:57] <miguelsr> NoUse: it dont apear my model only lexmark but not the same model
[07:57] <m6s> which I did, apt-get install but..../dev/null
[07:57] <gymsmoke> sneex: no
[07:57] <m6s> any clue?
[07:57] <Old> A good ftp server for ubuntu server? - I heard there's problems (alot of problems) with the default config, if anyone could link a config aswell.
[07:57] <NoUse> miguelsr try something close
[07:57] <gymsmoke> sneex: i get errors from the client about the sock ...
[07:57] <sneex> is that a no, because it wont start or a no because you cant connect>
[07:57] <sneex> kk
[07:58] <Old> A good ftp server for ubuntu server? - I heard there's problems (alot of problems) with the default config, if anyone could link a config aswell.
[07:58] <NoUse> miguelsr you might need drivesr from lexmark
[07:58] <sneex> apache flood
[07:58] <miguelsr> yes i download  CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR.gz
[07:58] <miguelsr>  but dosnot work
[07:59] <serp> how do I mount a memory card reader?
[07:59] <NoUse> miguelsr did you follow the wiki instructions?
[07:59] <gymsmoke> sneex: connects to the server ok, but get sockopt errors - it's definitely iptables relates
[07:59] <khaladan> I am trying to get the program tiff2png but I can not seem to find any package for it.
[07:59] <khaladan> Does anyone know where I can get a package for this program?
[08:00] <NoUse> miguelsr https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkZ605
[08:00] <sneex> have you tried ip_conntrack_ftp ?
[08:00] <gymsmoke> sneex: i had to shut iptables down completely to get ftp to work
[08:00] <gymsmoke> sneex: im loading ip_conntrack_ftp to see if that improves it any
[08:00] <miguelsr> NoUse: thaks
[08:00] <sneex> you running firstarter?
[08:01] <sneex> firestarter*
[08:01] <Absenth> khaladan: I found a gif2png package....
[08:01] <gymsmoke> sneex: with or without, it doesn't make a difference
[08:01] <Absenth> khaladan: from the command prompt :sudo apt-cache search tiff2png
[08:01] <sneex> no, gymsmoke, I am asking did you use firestarter to set up iptables ?
[08:02] <gymsmoke> sneex: not on the server, no
[08:02] <khaladan> Absenth, it came up with nothing
[08:02] <lkj1> Is there a way to update from Whorey Hedgehog to Dapper Drake or Edgy Eft without donwloading/burning new cd?
[08:02] <gymsmoke> sneex: there isn't a gui on the server
[08:02] <ism720> i download ubuntu last night on win98, check properties from download manager which says locations is windows/temp/ubuntu, but it's not there.unable to create cd.download again?
[08:02] <sneex> ok
[08:02] <sneex> brb
[08:02] <Absenth> khaladan: I noticed.  searching tiff conversion finds....
[08:02] <Absenth> khaladan libtiff-tools, libtiff-opengl, and apsfilter
[08:03] <m6s> any change? someone may know something about dvd-burning software?
[08:03] <m6s> apart k3b?
[08:03] <Absenth> khaladan: not as easy I suppose, but you could always open the tiff in gimp, and "save as"
[08:03] <lkj1> Is there a way to update from horey Hedgehog to Dapper Drake or Edgy Eft without donwloading/burning new cd?
[08:03] <khaladan> yeah i gotta convert thousands of tiffs so... that woudl suck :(
[08:04] <spikeb> lkj1: yeah
[08:04] <lkj1> How should I go about it, spikeb?
[08:04] <Absenth> khaladan: you might search for a .deb and install it manually.
[08:04] <NoUse> ism720 do a search in windows for *.iso
[08:04] <spikeb> lkj1: just a second, pulling up the page iwth instructions for you
[08:04] <Absenth> khaladan: if that fails, build from source?
[08:04] <lkj1> khaladan: imgmagick might be able to batch convert the images
[08:05] <spikeb> lkj1:  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[08:05] <ankou> hola, alguien me puede ayudar
[08:05] <stone_> hello everyone. i need assistance installing Ubuntu 5.10 on my Powerbook G3. my CD drive won't boot CDs. is there an alternative method?
[08:06] <irena> where are located files for conf. automount for ex. usb disk?
[08:06] <khaladan> imagemagick can convert it, but it is SUPER slow. it's a huge tiff.
[08:06] <ankou> alguien que hable espaol me puede ayudar?
[08:06] <ompaul> lkj1, you have to go through the steps of each version in the middle, you can only get to dapper at this stage there is no useful work done on edgy eft to make it installable yet, and you would be tracking the software from unstable to stable so not a good idea
[08:07] <Centaur5> ankou: Hay personas que hablan espanol en #ubuntu-es
[08:07] <Absenth> lkj1: /etc/apt/sources.list  you modify your sources to look at the dapper, or whatever, and then sudo apt-get update, sudp apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:07] <Absenth> s/sudp/sudo
[08:07] <Absenth> then come back in an hour or so.  :)
[08:07] <sneex> gymsmoke, try allow-ftp  21  --  anywhere             anywhere
[08:07] <lkj1> Thanks!
[08:07] <n00bix> is there like a queue to axe questions here?
[08:07] <gymsmoke> sneex: ports 20 and 21 are on in the ruleset
[08:07] <sneex> yep
[08:07] <sneex> kk
[08:07] <ompaul> ism720,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto <--- that might help
[08:07] <Jowi> stone_: i'm not a mac user and have never owned a mac, but i found an alternative key combination for booting cds: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2004/10/msg00062.html
[08:08] <gymsmoke> sneex: i just did insmod ip_conntrack_ftp to see if that would help
[08:08] <sneex> ip_conntrack_ftp should also allo "related" so unless your cleint is using PASV
[08:08] <sneex> allow*
[08:08] <gymsmoke> sneex: and it doesn;t
[08:08] <ism720> NoUse: found five files one in windows/temp 0KB size
[08:08] <ompaul> n00bix, ask see if someone answers - if no answer wait 10-15 mins ask again because someone may not have the answer you need at the moment *and* ask the channel as a whole not one person
[08:08] <sneex> see if you can force the proftpd server in PASV mode
[08:08] <ism720> ompaul: thx
[08:08] <NoUse> ism720 then it didn't download properly
[08:08] <ompaul> ism720, yw
[08:08] <stone_> Jowi: can you please prvmsg that to me?
[08:09] <sneex> gymsmoke, please join me in #proftpd OK
[08:09] <NoUse> ism720 can you use bittorrent?
[08:09] <gymsmoke> sneex: ok
[08:09] <ism720> NoUse: no
[08:10] <ism720> NoUse: will use dif mirror
[08:10] <n00bix> oh, well i'm a total linux n00b and just wondering how i can write to folders i don't have access to without using command line
[08:10] <NoUse> ism720 make sure you "save as" and don't let windows save it to temp
[08:10] <_jason> n00bix: what kind of folders?
[08:11] <ompaul> n00bix, if you don't have access to a folder there is more than likely a good reason for it, what are you trying to do
[08:11] <n00bix> /usr/lib/win32
[08:11] <Old> Anyone got know a good ftp server? And where to get a config for it aswell?
[08:11] <n00bix> trying to install codecs for kaffeine
[08:11] <ism720> thx NoUse
[08:11] <ompaul> n00bix, to do that read the instructions here wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or check out easyubuntu in #easyubuntu
[08:12] <n00bix> i created the folder using sudo -s in terminal, but can't extract files in gnome
[08:12] <Old> Anyone got know a good ftp server? And where to get a config for it aswell?
[08:12] <ompaul> alapzaj[AWAY] , TURN THAT OFF NOW!
[08:12] <Old> ?ftp
[08:12] <lkj1> Does Dapper have WPA supplicant allready set up?
[08:12] <n00bix> ah thanks ompaul
[08:12] <paradizelost> Old: i usually use ProFTPD
[08:12] <roryy> Old: try !ftp
[08:12] <ompaul> lkj1, dapper in #ubuntu+1 for conversations
[08:13] <ompaul> lkj1, thats the dapper channel
[08:13] <sp3tt> I think my altgr key is broken.
[08:13] <sp3tt> At least in java.
[08:14] <tanath> that little ubuntu splash screen that comes up when i log in doesn't go away... unless i click it
[08:14] <freezey> i need some help setting up ethereal.. if anyone can assist
[08:14] <tanath> what's up with that?
[08:14] <sp3tt> Yes, it is java...
[08:14] <paradizelost> tanath: that sounds like you may have a bug
[08:14] <paradizelost> something starting up possibly that it's waiting for
[08:14] <sp3tt> too bad my favorite editor is written in java!
[08:15] <paradizelost> do you have it save the session?
[08:15] <ompaul> sp3tt, so report a bug
[08:15] <Absenth> freezey: setting up ethereal?  as in, sudo apt-get install ethereal?
[08:15] <Absenth> freezey: or, configuring your filter string?
[08:15] <tanath> paradizelost: it's on 'update notifier'
[08:15] <freezey> absenth: configuring and just gettin it up and running
[08:16] <freezey> absenth: i was reading the doc but i need to get it done faster so i wanna talk to someone who can do it
[08:16] <tanath> paradizelost: update notifier is running...
[08:16] <sp3tt> java version "1.4.2-02"
[08:16] <Old> Anyone got know a good ftp server? And where to get a config for it aswell?
[08:16] <sp3tt> Is there a newer version...?
[08:16] <Absenth> freezey: from a command line....  sudo apt-get install ethereal      will install it.
[08:16] <glupota> I put new silicon paste on my processor and now my computer doesn't want do com up It beeps and smells like burning
[08:16] <freezey> absenth: i have it already
[08:16] <freezey> absenth: i have to configure it to get it running
[08:16] <Absenth> freezey: from there, just select eth0 or eth1 and tell it to capture.
[08:16] <glupota> Have I put  too much paste?
[08:16] <Old> anyone, seriously?
[08:17] <matheus> hello
[08:17] <Old> I though this was a support channel, I maybe missread the topic.
[08:17] <freezey> absenth: i need it to monitor my mail server on my windows network
[08:17] <Absenth> freezey: unless you want a specific filter applied.  I usually capture everything though, and then parse it apart later.
[08:17] <freezey> absenth: how do i do that
[08:17] <paradizelost> glupota: possibly, or you didn't make proper contact
[08:17] <freezey> absenth: i just want to capture my mail server thats all
[08:17] <Jowi> Old: proftpd is solid and easy to configure.
[08:17] <Absenth> freezey: on a switched network?  is the mail server the machine running ethereal?
[08:17] <matheus> Im trying ubuntu... and I install skype (that use qt)... and I wanna now how to modify qt aparence...
[08:17] <Old> Jowi, thanks - but the default config is all messed up, you got a good config for it perhaps
[08:17] <Old> ?
[08:17] <freezey> absenth: no
[08:18] <freezey> absenth: my linux machine is runnin ethereal
[08:18] <glupota> what contact?  I palced all cables where they were before
[08:18] <Jowi> Old: i post mine in the pastebin, hold on
[08:18] <Absenth> freezey: switched network, or using a hub.
[08:18] <paradizelost> glupota: heatsink to the CPU contact
[08:18] <Old> cheers jow
[08:18] <Old> Jowi
[08:18] <freezey> absenth: switch
[08:18] <paradizelost> did you turn it on at all w/o the heatsink on?
[08:19] <freezey> absenth: or if possible can i monitor the entire thing?
[08:19] <freezey> absenth: just my entire network all the pc's on it
[08:19] <matheus> how to modify qt aparece ??? anyone now that ??
[08:19] <matheus> apparence
[08:19] <PrimoTurbo> How do I install xubuntu? In such a way so it can be removed with out any problems.
[08:19] <Falstius> appearance
[08:19] <mrdna> has anyone been able to disable the system bells when going into sleep/suspend mode? I already disabled the bell in System>Preferences>Sound
[08:20] <Absenth> freezey: I doubt you'll be able to capture much then.  since SMTP isn't broadcast.  the problem with switched networks (or really what makes them better) is that non-broadcast traffic is from source port, to destination port,  all other ports are unable to see the traffic.
[08:20] <NoUse> PrimoTurbo sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[08:20] <NoUse> PrimoTurbo if you want to remove it, sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop
[08:20] <PrimoTurbo> alright thanks
[08:20] <Jowi> Old: "DefaultRoot ~" make sure that the logged in user is locked into his/her home directory. if you don't want that, delete that line. here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13867
[08:20] <abelen> ola
[08:20] <freezey> absenth: my problem is my mail server was hijacked
[08:20] <Old> I cant seem to get the php5 to work correctly? anyone?
[08:20] <glupota> my radiador is conected to power suply permanently
[08:20] <freezey> absenth: whoever put together this network did it poorly and i just started working here
[08:20] <Old> apt-get install php5 - correct?
[08:20] <Absenth> freezey: to monitor the mail servers traffic you either need to stick a hub in line to the mail server, and plug your ethereal box into the hub as well, OR have a managed switch, and configure a monitor port.
[08:21] <peery> help... anyone know how I can get emacs to use the font lucidatypewriter? Can't figure out how to get emacs to recognize it or even what package it's in
[08:21] <Absenth> freezey: if the mail server was hijacked, pull the ethernet cable out of it, run your forenzics, and then rebuild the box.
[08:21] <NoUse> !tell Old about php
[08:21] <definity> hi
[08:21] <Absenth> freezey: #security and #networking will be able to offer a lot more assistance along those lines though.
[08:22] <MisterN> hi
[08:22] <Old> whats the command to restart the webserver againA+
[08:22] <Old> ?
[08:22] <NoUse> Old sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:22] <Absenth> Old: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart?  I think.
[08:23] <Absenth> Old: NoUse: Whoo!  got it right :)
[08:23] <ompaul> freezey, the only way to deal with a problem machine like that is get a new hard drive install afresh on that
[08:23] <ompaul> and work from there
[08:23] <ph1> I deleted ./debian/changelog and now I can't compile a kernell because it sais that it has a different version
[08:24] <ph1> any ideas?
[08:24] <NoUse> ph1 where was the file you deleted?
[08:24] <ph1> NoUse: I deleted the changelog
[08:25] <ph1> because I didn't want to use mykernel as version and it complained about it....now I can't choose any version
[08:25] <definity> how can i brows graphical web pages on terminal
[08:25] <Old> how do i remove all of the php5 files, apache, and php4 ? I dont remember all the shit i've intalled, i know it's apt-get remove name, but still..
[08:25] <Old> anyone ?
[08:25] <definity> like normal www http sites
[08:25] <paradizelost> definity: links
[08:25] <definity> with frames
[08:25] <peery> anyone know what package I can install to get teh LucidaTypewriter font for emacs?
[08:25] <paradizelost> links or links2
[08:25] <paradizelost> no pictures will show
[08:25] <g0dchild> Hi, when i run my k3bsetup, i just get a blank window- why's that?
[08:25] <paradizelost> of course
[08:26] <paradizelost> g0dchild: may need to be run as sudo k3bsetup
[08:26] <definity> k
[08:26] <hikenboot> hello all---I seem to have a problem where tmp files are created under the wrong user id..heres the message....Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-hikenboot" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[08:26] <hikenboot> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root".....anyone know how to fix this?
[08:26] <Almindor> hello, how do I make a "home net" (file copy etc.) between 2 linux boxes? (one ubuntu, other knoppix)
[08:26] <g0dchild> yeah- ran sudo k3bsetup as well as k3bsetup as root
[08:26] <paradizelost> Almindor: scp
[08:26] <NoUse> ph1 there are changelogs for every package in teh system, where did you delete it from?
[08:26] <mutante> Almindor: you can use scp, its like "cp",but over ssh
[08:26] <paradizelost> !scp
[08:26] <ubotu> scp is, like, totally, A way to copy files securely using ssh.  <file> <username>@<ipaddress>:<DestinationDirectory>
[08:26] <Almindor> I know scp
[08:26] <Almindor> too bulky
[08:26] <Almindor> I need something.. em "simple"
[08:26] <ph1> NoUse: ./debian/changelog
[08:26] <Almindor> think samba over linux
[08:26] <definity> can i downlaod it from synaptic
[08:27] <Old> Should i install apache, or apache2 ?
[08:27] <mutante> Almindor: NFS
[08:27] <paradizelost> Almindor: you could just nfs mount
[08:27] <pike__> Almindor: well you can use sshfs
[08:27] <Jowi> definity: w3m (with w3m-img) an do that
[08:27] <NoUse> ph1 thats a relative path, give me the path fom /
[08:27] <Absenth> Almindor: NFS or you could use SMB between the linux boxen
[08:27] <Old> Should i install apache, or apache2 ?
[08:27] <Almindor> ah ok so with NFS you actualy mount "non-local" disks?
[08:27] <Jowi> !info w3m
[08:27] <mutante> Almindor: there is also ssh-fs, allowing to mount over ssh
[08:27] <ubotu> w3m: (WWW browsable pager with excellent tables/frames support), section text, is standard. Version: 0.5.1-3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1037 kB, Installed size: 1816 kB
[08:27] <ph1> NoUse: Ah it's in the /usr/src/linux-2.6.16/
[08:27] <simp> eh, i have a question again
[08:27] <Almindor> what is required for NFS?
[08:27] <simp> my PC got stuck
[08:27] <Absenth> Almindor: yes,  with NFS you can mount a remote disk, to the local file system.
[08:28] <simp> in the rescue mode
[08:28] <NoUse> ph1 can you pastebin the error you are getting?
[08:28] <Almindor> Absenth, any limits on FS types?
[08:28] <simp> will anything bad happen if i just do a hard reset?
[08:28] <peery> anyone know what package I can install to get teh LucidaTypewriter font for emacs?
[08:28] <paradizelost> simp
[08:28] <paradizelost> just type exit
[08:28] <simp> yeah
[08:28] <paradizelost> and press enter
[08:28] <paradizelost> do it over and over
[08:28] <NoUse> !tell ph1 about pastebin
[08:28] <paradizelost> you should eventually get out
[08:28] <simp> ok
[08:28] <simp> thank you
[08:28] <Absenth> Almindor: um,  I assume anything linux can read/write should be fine,  you'll need to adjust your fstab for the correct string.
[08:29] <paradizelost> 172.16.0.9:/media/shareddata    /media/shareddata       nfs     proto=tcp,defaults 0 0
[08:29] <paradizelost> one of my nfs mounts
[08:29] <Almindor> Absenth, this is one timer
[08:29] <Absenth> r
[08:29] <Old> Jowi, did you past your config ?
[08:29] <Absenth> Almindor: then, make sure your mount string has the correct fs type
[08:30] <Almindor> Absenth, can you tell me "how" to mount and what is required on both ends?
[08:30] <paradizelost> then   #  mount 1.2.3.4:/share/path    /mount/path -t nfs -o proto=tcp
[08:30] <Jowi> Yes Old: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13867
[08:30] <peery> crap why does ubuntu not have any reasonible fonts from emacs21
[08:30] <Absenth> Almindor: see paradizelost....  he's posted it.
[08:30] <Jowi> Old: "DefaultRoot ~" makes sure that the logged in user is locked into his/her home directory. if you don't want that, delete that line.
[08:30] <simp> thank you paradizelost
[08:30] <paradizelost> np
[08:30] <simp> :)
[08:30] <simp> and actualy i was stupid again
[08:31] <Almindor> that looks like fstab entry :)
[08:31] <Almindor> how do I do it one time?
[08:31] <simp> didn't know that you could write anything
[08:31] <Almindor> think read-only
[08:31] <simp> anyway thank you got my GRUB back
[08:31] <paradizelost> Almindor: the first one is /etc/fstab
[08:31] <simp> bye bye
[08:31] <Almindor> ah
[08:31] <paradizelost> the second one was on CLI
[08:31] <Almindor> ok I see it :)
[08:31] <Almindor> thanks
[08:31] <Almindor> and what about the "other" side?
[08:31] <felipe__> Anyone knows if I need to hava a sesion open to connect through vnc to a remote computer?
[08:31] <Almindor> I guess I need to enable it somehow?
[08:32] <Jowi> felipe__: nepends on which vnc server you are using
[08:32] <Jowi> s/nepends/depends
[08:32] <felipe__> Jowi, the one that comes with ubuntu
[08:32] <Jowi> felipe__: then, yes
[08:32] <Old> I cant get php to work, pissing me off. If i try to link to a .php file it tries to download it.
[08:32] <Absenth> Almindor: I believe (been a while since I messed with NFS) you configure you're /etc/exports file
[08:32] <matheus> I have install xubuntu-desktop and now? :)
[08:33] <captine> Hi all.  Has anyone had experience installing a 3G or HSDPA pcmcia cards in their notebooks?  I can't find help on the internet i.e. general help
[08:33] <Old> anyone?
[08:33] <NoUse> Old have you followed the wiki page ubotu sent you?
[08:33] <Old> Yes
[08:33] <Almindor> Absenth, ok, what about smbmount?
[08:33] <Old> it didnt work, It's pissing me off
[08:33] <Almindor> Absenth, wouldn't it be better? :D
[08:33] <paradizelost> Almindor: example NFS share
[08:33] <Old> I'll reboot the pc
[08:33] <NoUse> Old you missed a step
[08:33] <captine> and am wanting to know if ubuntu/linu has support for them, before purchaseing one
[08:33] <paradizelost> Almindor: less reliable and lots of permission issues w/ smb between linux boxes
[08:33] <felipe__> Jowi, Could you tell me which other vnc server I could download so I dont need to have a session open to use remotely a ubuntu box?
[08:33] <Absenth> Almindor: that would be SMB, rather then NFS.  for unix to unix, I'd prefer NFS, but....
[08:33] <Old> No NoUse, I didnt. I will try again though
[08:34] <Jowi> felipe__: there are other vnc-servers that you do not need it though. like tightvnc. you can start a session remotely (by using ssh for example)
[08:34] <Jowi> !vnc
[08:34] <ubotu> vnc is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[08:34] <tahorg> Old: if you did not then it must work.
[08:34] <Almindor> Absenth, I hear there's "interoperability" issues :D
[08:34] <Almindor> Absenth, I'll give it a try tho
[08:34] <felipe__> Jowi, Ok thanks
[08:34] <Jowi> np felipe__
[08:34] <tahorg> Old: restart apache
[08:34] <Absenth> Almindor: you're mounting a windows share to linux?
[08:35] <Almindor> well yeah that or the other way
[08:35] <Old> tahorg, i get no answer when trying to restart the webserv.
[08:35] <Old> im rebooting it now though
[08:35] <Almindor> (mounting a linux share to copy from windows partition)
[08:35] <sp3tt> Wow, java 1.5 is much faster than 1.4...
[08:35] <lordalbert> hello
[08:36] <lordalbert> does ubuntu use pmount or hal+dbus ?1
[08:36] <lordalbert> ?!
[08:36] <Absenth> sp3tt: am I the only one who finds JAVA extremely annoying?
[08:36] <sp3tt> Possibly.
[08:36] <paradizelost> JAVA BAD
[08:36] <tahorg> lordalbert: hal
[08:36] <paradizelost> :D
[08:36] <Almindor> heh java and fast
[08:36] <Absenth> sp3tt: things like,  app XYZ will only function with java version 1.4.2_10 or older.  but this other app I need requires 1.5.0
[08:36] <Almindor> that's an oxymoron
[08:36] <sp3tt> That sucks.
[08:36] <felipe__> Jowi, is there .deb package for tight vnc?
[08:36] <paradizelost> !tightvnc
[08:36] <ubotu> paradizelost: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:36] <paradizelost> !vnc
[08:36] <ubotu> well, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[08:37] <Absenth> sp3tt: At least in a windows world, java can fly off a bridge as far as I'm concerned.
[08:37] <Jowi> felipe__: "sudo apt-get install tightvncserver"
[08:38] <simp> okey, stupid me got back... is there any way i could use wireless with psk-TKIP encription in linux?
[08:38] <jksd> is it OK to ask a general UNIX question in here?
[08:38] <paradizelost> jksd: just ask
[08:38] <jksd> alright
[08:38] <felipe__> Jowi, thanks again
[08:38] <Jowi> felipe__: you can search for packages with apt-cache. if you wonder if the package exist or what its name is "apt-cache search -n vnc"
[08:38] <jksd> well
[08:39] <jksd> what would be better for a shell server, solaris or red hat?
[08:39] <simp> solaris i think
[08:39] <paradizelost> redhat bad.
[08:39] <paradizelost> :D
[08:39] <jksd> is solaris OK for beginners?
[08:39] <tahorg> jksd: on sparc ?
[08:39] <paradizelost> the M$ of linux
[08:39] <paradizelost> no
[08:39] <jksd> what's wrong with Red Hat?
[08:39] <Almindor> lol, solaris hehe
[08:39] <felipe__> Jowi, cook
[08:39] <Almindor> if you're on x86
[08:39] <simp> many people have solaris for servers in estonia so...
[08:39] <Almindor> don't touch solaris
[08:39] <paradizelost> solaris != beginners...
[08:39] <jksd> tahorg: yeah it would be on a SPARC if it's solaris
[08:40] <tahorg> jksd: well opensolaris works on i386
[08:40] <simp> is there any way i could use wireless with psk-TKIP encription in linux?sorry to repeat
[08:40] <tahorg> jksd: that's why I asked
[08:40] <tahorg> jksd: but it depends on what you want to do on those servers
[08:40] <jksd> paradizelost: should I stick with red hat then?
[08:40] <X3n0n> hello again, if i upgrade from 5.10 to 6.04 i will lose my files and my option (current configuration)
[08:40] <paradizelost> jksd: i'd go ubuntu over rhat
[08:40] <jksd> tahorg: a few things I guess
[08:40] <_jason> X3n0n: you shouldn't
[08:40] <paradizelost> as i said.  rhat=bad
[08:41] <paradizelost> i haven't been willing to use them for about 6 years.
[08:41] <tahorg> jksd: bash/zsh/sh/tcsh just work on both
[08:41] <NoUse> jksd if those are you really you're only choices I'd go with Red Hat
[08:41] <paradizelost> unless your talking rhat enterprise server and need support
[08:41] <jksd> paradizelost: the reason why I'd prefer Red Hat is because it has a full training course
[08:41] <tahorg> jksd: ubuntu is a good choice btw :)
[08:41] <ph1> can you disable anti alising to the fonts so they look sharp like in xp?
[08:41] <X3n0n> so the correct is not to lose both of them. cause i started upgrading and i forgot asking it!
[08:41] <jksd> paradizelost: yea, I'm talking about enterprize server
[08:41] <paradizelost> jksd: you do realize your in the #ubuntu room right?  it'd be like asking in #microsoft if windows or linux was better...
[08:42] <NoUse> x3n0n the system files are seperate from your config files, you'll be fine
[08:42] <tahorg> jksd: enterprise server $$$
[08:42] <X3n0n> ok thank you!
[08:42] <X3n0n> bb
[08:42] <_jason> X3n0n: ha too late now!  No, your configs should be safe.  If there is a file it wants to change, it will prompt you (and you should back it up and then use the newer one imo)
[08:42] <jksd> tahorg: I know
[08:42] <jksd> paradizelost: there's no officia training for ubuntu
[08:42] <paradizelost> ubuntu is free and has free 5 year support...
[08:42] <jksd> official
[08:42] <paradizelost> :D
[08:43] <jksd> yeah but I'm after proper training
[08:43] <Captain-gh> hola
[08:43] <tahorg> jksd: what training ?
[08:43] <tahorg> jksd: just bash scripting ?
[08:43] <jksd> tahorg: red hat offers sysadmin training
[08:43] <paradizelost> jksd: but the issues they'll train you on aren't the ones your going to run into real-world.
[08:44] <jksd> paradizelost: howcomes?
[08:44] <ph1> how can I manually make a boot image? I compile kernel with make, make modules, make install, make modukes_insall, but I need to make an initrd image? can I make such manualy
[08:44] <paradizelost> they'll train you on day-to-day maintenance
[08:44] <paradizelost> !mkinitrd
[08:44] <ubotu> paradizelost: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:44] <tahorg> jksd: I don't understand your question then, you want a sysadmin training ok
[08:44] <paradizelost> !mkinitrdimage
[08:44] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[08:44] <jksd> tahorg: yeah I do want to
[08:44] <paradizelost> ph1:  the command is mkinitrd IIRC
[08:44] <tahorg> jksd: but redhat and solaris a really different
[08:44] <jksd> tahorg: right
[08:45] <jksd> tahorg: red hat is better because I'm a beginner, right?
[08:45] <paradizelost> jksd: actually, for beginners, i'd go a mac server....:D
[08:45] <paradizelost> :P
[08:46] <sm> hey all.. http://www.geeksrus.com/sophie/2006-05-09_files/timelines-2006-05-9.mov crashes both totem-gstreamer and mplayer on my dapper, any idea why ? can anyone else play it ?
[08:46] <thug> paradizelost can mac be installed on normal computers as well ?
[08:46] <jksd> paradizelost: for real though, which should I go for?
[08:46] <sm> it's about 2M
[08:46] <paradizelost> thug: not that i know of
[08:46] <tahorg> jksd: if it's for your own formation, try different distro and solaris and a bsd
[08:46] <jacob__> hello
[08:47] <tahorg> jacob__: hi, so ndiswrapper ?
[08:47] <danif_600> cl
[08:47] <paradizelost> jksd: if you need support and training, redhat..  but they'll cost mucho $$$$
[08:47] <paradizelost> what all do you need to do w/ it?
[08:47] <roryy> jksd: it might be a good idea to go for what you can easily get training for.  I suspect many of the skills can be transferred to other linux distros
[08:47] <jacob__> tahorg: ummm... not so good
[08:47] <sillu> hello
[08:47] <tahorg> jacob__: some win drivers are problematic
[08:47] <jksd> paradizelost: hosting
[08:47] <jacob__> tahorg: it is having this error where it will make me make 80 srokes and such
[08:47] <paradizelost> jksd: what kind of hosting?
[08:47] <paradizelost> hosting could mean MANY things
[08:48] <jksd> paradizelost: haven't decided yet
[08:48] <jksd> paradizelost: yeah
[08:48] <tahorg> jacob__: looks like irq problem :)
[08:48] <jacob__> tahorg: then it won't let me start up correctly
[08:48] <jacob__> tahorg: irQ?
[08:48] <jacob__> tahorg: what is that?
[08:48] <jksd> paradizelost: why would you reccomend RH?
[08:48] <jksd> paradizelost: ease of use?
[08:48] <paradizelost> jacob__: Interrupt ReQuest
[08:48] <paradizelost> jksd: as i said, i HATE redhat
[08:48] <tahorg> jacob__: interruption request, when the devices call the CPU to tell "hey I've something to say"
[08:49] <paradizelost> but they have training and paid-for support.
[08:49] <jacob__> tahorg, paradize lost... what should i do to fix this?
[08:49] <paradizelost> jacob__: how old is the comp?
[08:49] <jksd> paradizelost: I've been told that Red Hat is no easier than solaris, but that doesn't sound right to me
[08:49] <jacob__> paradizelost: around 5 months
[08:49] <tahorg> jacob__: try to compile a recent version of ndiswrapper
[08:49] <paradizelost> jacob__: and how many add-in cards to you have put in?
[08:50] <ivan> hi i have one question why i can connected on any amule server i instaled amule with no problems and doesn`t work
[08:50] <tahorg> paradizelost: it's a laptop I think
[08:50] <paradizelost> !amule
[08:50] <jacob__> paradizelost: addin cars?
[08:50] <ubotu> paradizelost: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:50] <tahorg> paradizelost: irq problems with ndiswrapper
[08:50] <jacob__> tahorg: i think i have the most recent
[08:50] <paradizelost> tahorg: k.
[08:50] <tahorg> jacob__: which is ?
[08:50] <jacob__> tahorg: 1.7 methinks
[08:50] <Minty>  apt-get update && apt-get install xchat
[08:50] <Minty> E: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier verrou /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission non accorde)
[08:51] <tahorg> jacob__: what's the driver for your card ?
[08:51] <paradizelost> jksd: as i said, redhat is the M$FT of linux.
[08:51] <paradizelost> !fr
[08:51] <tahorg> w311smth IIRC
[08:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:51] <Minty> can anyone telle me whameanst that
[08:51] <jacob__> tahorg: i don't know what you mean... i just have the .inf from the netgear disk
[08:51] <Minty> I prefer the english section
[08:51] <tahorg> paradizelost: stop trolling please, it doesn't help
[08:51] <tahorg> jacob__: what is the name of the .info ?
[08:51] <tahorg> inf
[08:51] <paradizelost> tahorg: i meant that as it's easy to setup and configure, but a pain to manage... to me at least.
[08:51] <thoreauputic_> can someone see if they can get http://interlink.dynalias.org ? testing...
[08:51] <jacob__> tahorg: WG311.inf
[08:51] <paradizelost> rpms and dependency loops.
[08:52] <paradizelost> GRR
[08:52] <amigo> I'm having some problems with the livecd
[08:52] <paradizelost> amigo: like?
[08:52] <tahorg> paradizelost: fedora core with apt-rpm works as well a any other distro
[08:52] <paradizelost> tahorg: but he's not talking fedora
[08:52] <amigo> it loads to a brown screen with a pointer.
[08:53] <paradizelost> he's talking enterprise server
[08:53] <amigo> ubuntu livecd
[08:53] <paradizelost> amigo: how much ram?
[08:53] <amigo> 1gb
[08:53] <jacob__> tahorg: get that?
[08:53] <paradizelost> amigo: have you tried burning another cd and trying it and also comparing the md5sum?
[08:53] <jcmcbeth_> I was using the software update application and it's been stuck on "Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 (2.6.12-10.32) ..." for 20+ minutes, is it supposed to take this long?
[08:53] <amigo> yeah. twice.
[08:53] <tahorg> jacob__: what is the model that ndiswrapper -l give you ?
[08:53] <tahorg> gives
[08:54] <paradizelost> is it the dapper livecd or breezy 5.10?
[08:54] <amigo> breezy
[08:54] <paradizelost> and the md5sum is right?
[08:54] <amigo> so far as  i know
[08:54] <sillu> how to change the keyboard layout language? i added estionian to the list but it's still in english
[08:54] <sillu> anyone knows>
[08:54] <paradizelost> amigo: did you check it?
[08:54] <woo> How do I unmount something?
[08:54] <amigo> yeah.
[08:54] <jacob__> tahorg: doesn't say anything about the version.... just says that "Driver present, Hardware present"
[08:54] <paradizelost> woo: sudo umount /path/to/mount
[08:54] <newtuxman> can someone get me started on adding this ubuntu box to a windows domain so that i can see the network please?
[08:55] <samuli> sillu, I had the same problem while ago with dapper in kde.
[08:55] <amigo> the "md5" unix command
[08:55] <tahorg> jacob__: the model
[08:55] <tahorg> jacob__: wg311v1 v2 ?
[08:55] <amigo> i usually start up in freebsd
[08:55] <jacob__> tahorg: v3
[08:55] <sillu> i'm in gnome right now samuli
[08:55] <tahorg> v3 ... ok
[08:55] <Jowi> woo: umount /mountpoint (or umount /dev/devicename)
[08:55] <samuli> i'm using finnish layout, and it still insisted on using us.
[08:55] <jacob__> tahorg: has a mendell chipset i think
[08:55] <woo> paradizelost: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 11 19:27:32 2006
[08:55] <woo> Jowi: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 11 19:27:32 2006
[08:55] <vivien> v3
[08:55] <samuli> but that went away with upgrades.. I guess.
[08:55] <paradizelost> woo: check your date
[08:55] <gymsmoke> hrmm - i just did an install of a module to get my ftp working with iptables... how do i get that to load every time on reboot ?
[08:55] <paradizelost> woo: or umount -f /path/to/mount
[08:55] <samuli> don't have the problem anymore anyways.
[08:56] <paradizelost> that should force
[08:56] <jenesuispasbavar> How do I change the /etc/hosts file so that Breezy allows me to log in without the 'Try again' or 'Log in anyway' message when it loses my hostname?
[08:56] <sillu> i just downloaded the nevest version and installed ubuntu
[08:56] <paradizelost> woo: or you could do an lsof|grep /path/to/mount
[08:56] <thoreauputic_> *cough* has anyone managed to open http://interlink.dynalias.org ? I haven't seen any access in the log here yet ...
[08:56] <sillu> but it doesn't want to change :S
[08:56] <paradizelost> jenesuispasbavar: on the line that has 127.0.0.1 add your hostname
[08:56] <samuli> sillu, I see.
[08:56] <ompaul> sillu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[08:56] <thoreauputic_> aha
[08:56] <Jowi> *cough* yes thoreauputic_ :)
[08:56] <samuli> Have you updated everything in synaptic?
[08:57] <jenesuispasbavar> paradizelost: I did. It now reads 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain Tails
[08:57] <sillu> nope
[08:57] <thoreauputic_> Jowi: aha so I see - thank you :)
[08:57] <jacob__> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[08:57] <paradizelost> jenesuispasbavar: and you have the hostname EXACTLY as it shows up when you type # hostname
[08:57] <JonBoon> what program do i need to use to make a webserver?
[08:57] <paradizelost> ?
[08:57] <jenesuispasbavar> paradizelost: Still doesn't wirk
[08:57] <paradizelost> JonBoon: apache
[08:57] <jenesuispasbavar> paradizelost: Yes, it's the same.
[08:58] <paradizelost> JonBoon: unless you were talking about writing one from scratch...
[08:58] <JonBoon> oh no
[08:58] <gymsmoke> does insmod set modules to be loaded on reboot?
[08:58] <ompaul> thoreauputic_, I got to it
[08:58] <paradizelost> jenesuispasbavar: paste the output from # hostname and a copy of your /etc/hosts in pastebin
[08:58] <sparkleytone> /etc/modules.conf
[08:58] <paradizelost> gymsmoke: no
[08:58] <paradizelost> it's in /etc/modules
[08:59] <gymsmoke> paradizelost: thanks
[08:59] <sparkleytone> errr not that file
[08:59] <sparkleytone> what paradizelost said ;)
[08:59] <jenesuispasbavar> paradizelost: I'm not on Linux right now, sorry. Using Windows because none of my Breezy programs start.
[08:59] <jenesuispasbavar> paradizelost: What's pastebin?
[08:59] <thoreauputic_> ompaul: thanks - looks like optus aren't blocking then - but I'll shut it down again now I think
[08:59] <paradizelost> !paste
[08:59] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[09:00] <gymsmoke> paradizelost: so, /etc/modules would be the place to set ip_conntrack, and ip_conntrack_ftp
[09:00] <Minty> there is nobody in the french section anyone tell me what thi I'm getting it a: pt-get update && apt-get install xchat
[09:00] <Minty> E: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier verrou /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission non accorde)
[09:00] <Minty> s means and why
[09:00] <paradizelost> gymsmoke: you are setting up your firewall?
[09:00] <paradizelost> you could use firestarter
[09:00] <Seveas> Minty, you need to use sudo
[09:00] <tahorg> Minty: mets un sudo devant
[09:01] <paradizelost> !tell Minty about fr
[09:01] <woo> Why can't I change my time and date?
[09:01] <woo> I right click the clock, but that doesn't work.
[09:01] <Minty> try sudo get the same messgaze
[09:01] <clif> Does any know where I can get a network driver for an Encore 54 mbs wireless pc card model number ENPWI-G that will work with ubuntu
[09:01] <woo> It just doesn't open/.
[09:01] <paradizelost> woo: do you have the root password?
[09:01] <gymsmoke> paradizelost: just set up iptables
[09:01] <woo> paradizelost: Yes
[09:01] <paradizelost> gymsmoke: k.  then yes, you'll add those modules to /etc/modules
[09:01] <roryy> you need sudo for each for apt-get command
[09:01] <jenesuispasbavar> I
[09:01] <roryy> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:01] <Minty> k
[09:01] <newtuxman> how do i get started connection to a windows network with a domain?
[09:01] <paradizelost> woo: is your timezone set correctly?
[09:02] <woo> paradizelost: Nope
[09:02] <paradizelost> paradizelost: in /etc/localtime
[09:02] <roryy> or just put them on separate lines (what clever peanut put them on one line anyway?)
[09:02] <tahorg> Minty: inst xchat
[09:02] <woo> paradizelost: That's what I need to change.
[09:02] <woo> paradizelost: and the date
[09:02] <samuli> finland leads usa 3-0 in ice hockey <3
[09:02] <Minty> okay did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:02] <samuli> oh sorry, wrong chan :D
[09:02] <Minty> nothing happens
[09:02] <jenesuispasbavar> I'll figure it out myself. I've got to learn someday, eh?
[09:02] <paradizelost> woo: what i usually have to do then is # sudo rm /etc/localtime && sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/TIMEZONE /etc/localtime
[09:02] <woo> paradizelost: And change TIMEZONE?
[09:03] <paradizelost> woo: depending on where you are it may change the date as well
[09:03] <jacob__> Sorry all! I had an error with my computer where it was lagging
[09:03] <paradizelost> woo: yes, for example mine is US/Central
[09:03] <jacob__> thank you ompaul for gettting me unbanned
[09:04] <clif> Where would I go to download a driver for encore pcmia wireless card for ubuntu?
[09:04] <woo> paradizelost: It says the timestamp is to far in the future
[09:04] <tahorg> jacob__: I've read the status page from ndiswrapper wiki, your card is reported to work
[09:04] <tahorg> as working
[09:04] <jacob__> tahorg: cool
[09:04] <tahorg> jacob__: did you use the wg311v3.info ?
[09:04] <jacob__> tahorg: but, when i configure it does this weird thing
[09:04] <tahorg> inf
[09:05] <jacob__> tahorg: yes
[09:05] <jacob__> tahorg: wait that was ndisgtk
[09:05] <paradizelost> woo: are you dual-booting this machine w/ windows?
[09:05] <woo> paradizelost: Yes, why?
[09:05] <paradizelost> what's the output when you run # date
[09:05] <WAMarler> hey I'm trying to get some new packages but apt-get is saying they're not available, even though they're listed on the Ubuntu web site, how do I find what servers to add to the sources.list file?
[09:05] <jacob__> tahorg: how do i pick one for ndiswrapper?
[09:05] <paradizelost> woo: because it has to store the date in a different way when it's shared w/ windows
[09:05] <woo> paradizelost: Mon May  8 14:06:08 MST 2006
[09:06] <tahorg> jacob__: desinstall the old one
[09:06] <paradizelost> !tell WAMarler about repositories
[09:06] <roryy> Minty: can you put the output of 'apt-get install xchat' on the pastebin? (the pastebin is here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:06] <jacob__> tahorg: how?
[09:06] <newtuxman> how do i get started connection to a windows network with a domain?
[09:06] <woo> paradizelost: The time is right, now.
[09:06] <tahorg> jacob__: look at the option of ndiswrapper command
[09:06] <woo> paradizelost: But the date is wrong
[09:06] <roryy> Minty: i meant 'sudo apt-get install xchat', sorry
[09:06] <WAMarler> thx paradizelost
[09:06] <tahorg> jacob__: might be ndiswrapper -r
[09:06] <paradizelost> woo: type #  date --help
[09:06] <tahorg> jacob__: or something like this
[09:06] <paradizelost> and run it as root
[09:07] <paradizelost> woo: if you make the change on a terminal it should work fine
[09:07] <tahorg> jacob__: (try to find by yourself it's way better)
[09:07] <Biozzo> 'sera!
[09:07] <jacob__> tahorg: ok
[09:07] <woo> paradizelost: I'm not sure I get how to use date
[09:08] <Biozzo> italiani?
[09:08] <tahorg> jacob__: -e driver         Remove 'driver'
[09:08] <paradizelost> woo #  sudo date --date=MMDDhhmmYY
[09:08] <Biozzo> se vabbo' ciausss a todosss lolloladaofgisbgftghdaighadhgbvaes
[09:08] <tahorg> jacob__: :)
[09:08] <paradizelost> it says on the 2nd line of the help
[09:08] <paradizelost> !it
[09:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:08] <newtuxman> how do i get started connection to a windows network with a domain?
[09:09] <paradizelost> newtuxman: places ->network servers
[09:09] <newtuxman> i've gotten that far, but nothing i do proves to be fruitful
[09:09] <woo> paradizelost: I get timestamp to far in the future, when I run anything sudo.
[09:09] <jacob__> tahorg: how do i make my self owner?? something like "sudo -something"
[09:09] <michi_> hi
[09:09] <paradizelost> woo: then type sudo su -
[09:09] <tahorg> jacob__: what ?
[09:09] <alek_> hi blietooth problem: when im writin hidd --search it doesnt write any device adresses or errors. nothing. does anybody know how to fix it?
[09:09] <coincoin> hello
[09:09] <woo> paradizelost: Same
[09:10] <paradizelost> does it ask for a password?
[09:10] <woo> Nope
[09:10] <tahorg> jacob__: you want to log as a user ?
[09:10] <coincoin> does someone knows how to install ATI drivers ???
[09:10] <jacob__> tahorg: nevermind paradize lost got it
[09:10] <paradizelost> woo: you may need to boot to the rescue mode to run it then
[09:10] <newtuxman> yes
[09:10] <woo> paradizelost: Just says the timestamp is to far in the future.
[09:10] <jacob__> tahorg: removed old driver
[09:10] <paradizelost> woo: can you type su -
[09:10] <coincoin> I followed their recommandations on their site but I got no errors and no 3D acc
[09:10] <michi_> thx again guys for your support yesterday, I am now running @ best resolution and refresh-rate
[09:10] <tahorg> jacob__: now add the new
[09:11] <paradizelost> coincoin: use easyubuntu
[09:11] <paradizelost> !tell coincoin about easyubuntu
[09:11] <woo> paradizelost: Command not found
[09:11] <clif> are there any web sites that have any drivers for PCMIA network cards that will work with encore cards?
[09:11] <coincoin> why easyubuntu ???
[09:11] <michi_> easyubuntu is very EASY to use
[09:12] <rab> I have an empty hard drive, what should i partition it to and how can i mount it to use it?
[09:12] <paradizelost> coincoin: it works, it does it right, and it's easy
[09:12] <Minty> rorry tried the sudo update that starts to work but am getting error message due to restricted files as am running a amd64
[09:12] <coincoin> yes but I am not a beginner in linux
[09:12] <paradizelost> coincoin: i'm not either but i still use it
[09:12] <roryy> Minty: are you running normal ubuntu?
[09:12] <michi_> in the WIKI is also an ATI driver installation guide
[09:12] <jacob__> wg311v3 is already installed. Use -e to remove it
[09:12] <jacob__>  ... just removed it...
[09:12] <paradizelost> just because your not a beginner doesn't mean you have to do it the hard way
[09:12] <WAMarler> paradizelost: yay! My software installed : )
[09:13] <newtuxman> ok, i got it to the point where there is an icon that says "Windows Network" and everytime i click it, it asks me for username and password, and it will login (i think, it makes me login again if i use wrong information) but i see no shares on it or other computers on the network
[09:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell coincoin about ati
[09:13] <coincoin> okay i will try it but why does it not work on ubuntu ?
[09:13] <Minty> Think so dowlaoded it a weel ago
[09:13] <paradizelost> WAMarler: cool
[09:13] <paradizelost> coincoin: you may need some other stuff installed possibly
[09:13] <woo> paradizelost: It says my password are wrong... :-/
[09:13] <roryy> Minty: i mean, did you do a normal install ?
[09:13] <Minty> yes
[09:13] <paradizelost> woo: change the date in the bios
[09:13] <Minty> running breezer
[09:13] <roryy> Minty: don't you already have xchat ?
[09:13] <coincoin> but the ATI install prog tells me everything okay in its logs !!!
[09:13] <jacob__> tahorg: when i do ndiswrapper -l it gives me this Installed ndis drivers:
[09:13] <jacob__> wg311v3 invalid driver!
[09:14] <tahorg> oh.
[09:14] <paradizelost> coincoin: did you update the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use fglrx instead of ati?
[09:14] <Minty> thats what i am using, just wanted to update to latest version
[09:14] <paradizelost> !tell Minty about upgrade
[09:14] <tahorg> jacob__: strange
[09:14] <selinium> Hi all, anyone fancy giving me a hand compiling alsa? having problems :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13868
[09:14] <roryy> Minty: has there been an x-chat update ?
[09:14] <bobp> does anyone know how to get the ndiswrapper module to probe on startup?
[09:14] <jacob__> tahorg: lemme try something
[09:14] <coincoin> yes with aticonfig --initial
[09:14] <Cryptid> Can any one please suggest a software for anonymous web browsing or proxies .......
[09:14] <coincoin> but no 3D acc
[09:15] <paradizelost> coincoin: did you verify that the file itself was updated?
[09:15] <Minty> well my version is 2.4.4
[09:15] <paradizelost> coincoin: if you do an     #  glxinfo what does it say under direct rendering
[09:15] <coincoin> I can see a slight change on the colour that suggest me the new driver is loaded and used but no 3D acc
[09:15] <roryy> Minty: mine too. ubuntu only release security fixes within a release, i.e., the version number won't go past 2.4.4
[09:15] <tahorg> coincoin: /var/log/Xorg.0.log says something about dri and/or glx ?
[09:15] <jacob__> tahorg: can i do one of those remote assistant thingys?
[09:16] <Minty> ah okay, thanks for that
[09:16] <tahorg> jacob__: what do you mean ?
[09:16] <sverholen> hm
[09:16] <paradizelost> tahorg: i think he's thinkgin vnc
[09:16] <sverholen> some creativity will be needed :p
[09:16] <jacob__> tahorg: i don't know... i thought that you could do some thing where you can control my comp
[09:16] <paradizelost> tahorg: i think he wants you to vnc to his boxen
[09:16] <sverholen> i accidentally hit / in stead of .
[09:16] <tahorg> jacob__: ho, apt-get install openssh-server :)
[09:16] <sverholen> with the command rm -R / :|
[09:16] <jcmcbeth> What is the arguments for iptables to set up simple ip masquarading?
[09:16] <jacob__> tahorg: ok
[09:16] <sverholen> i immediately escaped
[09:17] <sverholen> but /etc/passwd seems to be missing
[09:17] <sverholen> what should i do ?
[09:17] <jacob__> tahorg: installed
[09:17] <paradizelost> sverholen: it probably got plenty of stuff anyways
[09:17] <michi_> I have also a driver question: nvidia has a linux nforce driver, is worth to install it, if everything seem to run fine?
[09:17] <paradizelost> sverholen: reinstall.....
[09:17] <paradizelost> :D
[09:17] <tahorg> jacob__: are you registered to be able private msg ?
[09:17] <coincoin> I have no errors I do not understand
[09:17] <paradizelost> or restore from backup?
[09:17] <amphi> jcmcbeth: good docs are at netfilter.org FWIW
[09:17] <sverholen> paradizelost: damn
[09:17] <jacob__> tahorg: yep
[09:17] <paradizelost> !tell coincoin about ati
[09:17] <sverholen> paradizelost: kicking myself in the head won't help ? :)
[09:17] <paradizelost> might
[09:17] <coincoin> what paradizelost ?
[09:17] <paradizelost> drink lots of beer
[09:17] <paradizelost> !ati
[09:17] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:17] <michi_> lol
[09:17] <sverholen> yes
[09:18] <sverholen> paradizelost: does the ubuntu installer have a kind of restore function ?
[09:18] <paradizelost> not that i've ever used...
[09:18] <simp> hello again, problems with the keyboard layout, changed it but still keeps the same old one
[09:18] <simp> the english one...
[09:18] <paradizelost> sverholen: this is why i periodically do a tar -cvf /media/external/backup.tar /etc /home
[09:18] <valentyn> same problem
[09:19] <rab> I have an empty hard drive, what should i partition it to and how can i mount it to use it?
[09:19] <paradizelost> rab: like an extra you want to add in?
[09:19] <rab> yes
[09:19] <sverholen> i have a backup, but only my server backup is complete
[09:19] <sverholen> damn damn damn
[09:19] <sverholen> ok, thx
[09:19] <sverholen> please don't remember me :p
[09:19] <sverholen> bb
[09:20] <amphi> rab: you can make it just one big partition if you want
[09:20] <shylock> hi i am trying to lok at streaming video in windows media format
[09:20] <woo> Can anyone help me out?
[09:20] <woo> When I try to run anything sudo
[09:20] <woo> I get sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 11 19:27:32 2006
[09:20] <simp> sorry to repeat my question...  problems with the keyboard layout, changed it but still keeps the same old one
[09:20] <rab> its a different hard drive, i just want to use it for extra space
[09:20] <paradizelost> woo: did you try changing the date in the bios?
[09:20] <roryy> woo: open a new gnome terminal (don't close the old one) and rerun the sudo command
[09:20] <shylock> but only thing i see is a black box with the text "(no picture) in it
[09:20] <woo> roryy: Doesn't work.
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> okay
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> question guys
[09:21] <bluefoxicy> can I force X to not kill itself on ctrl-alt-bs?
[09:21] <amphi> shylock: mplayer _might_ work with the w32codecs - the 'might' is what you get for nassty proprietary codecsssesss
[09:21] <roryy> woo: keep opening new terminals. each one should have its own timestamp, afaik
[09:21] <woo> My date is at May 8th which is wrong, and the timestamp is on the 11th
[09:21] <paradizelost> bluefoxicy: it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:21] <bluefoxicy> kay
[09:21] <valentyn> Hi! I have "RHYTHMBOX 0.9.0" installed. How can i upgrade it?
[09:21] <Seveas> BlueDevil, option dontzap, google for the exact syntax
[09:21] <amphi> bluefoxicy: yes - Option DontZap
[09:21] <shylock> amac, actually this might be vlc bcus i tried to install it but the install died halfway
[09:21] <bluefoxicy> now I have to start all over >:|
[09:21] <woo> paradizelost: Why would the bios be changed?
[09:22] <amphi> bluefoxicy: Option DontZap was for you, sorry
[09:22] <valentyn> Hi! I have "RHYTHMBOX 0.9.0" installed. How can i upgrade it?
[09:22] <rab> paradazelost, how would i mount it and what shoudl i partitionit as
[09:22] <bluefoxicy> yeah thanks.
[09:22] <paradizelost> woo: because the date is stored in the BIOS
[09:22] <amphi> woo: or just run ntpdate and use hwclock to set the hw clock
[09:23] <sm-afk> does anyone know a free dns nameserver I can use for general queries ?
[09:23] <valentyn> no
[09:23] <paradizelost> sm-afk: install bind and use 127.0.0.1
[09:23] <paradizelost> :D
[09:23] <woo> amphi: Elaborate please?
[09:23] <sm-afk> I have installed ubuntu for a farmer friend, and resolving certain hosts via his ISP always hangs
[09:23] <valentyn> Hi! I have "RHYTHMBOX 0.9.0" installed. How can i upgrade it?
[09:23] <amphi> woo: ntpdate will sync the system clock by NTP
[09:24] <sm-afk> any ideas on that would be *very welcome*
[09:24] <paradizelost> sm-afk:  install bind and use 127.0.0.1 as the nameserver, it
[09:24] <woo> amphi: It says no servers to connect to
[09:24] <amphi> woo: hwclock lets you write the sys time to the bios clock, but ubuntu should do that when you shutdown anyway
[09:24] <amphi> woo: you must give it one
[09:24] <paradizelost> woo: try using time.nist.gov
[09:24] <woo> amphi: Erm?
[09:24] <sm-afk> paradizelost: I'll try that, but I assume it will see the same problem I see
[09:25] <paradizelost> sm-afk: the system will go directly to the root servers.
[09:25] <valentyn> Hi! I have "RHYTHMBOX 0.9.0" installed. How can i upgrade it?
[09:25] <paradizelost> it will be more reliable than the ISP's dns
[09:25] <sm-afk> oh, interesting
[09:25] <sm-afk> thanks!
[09:25] <paradizelost> sm-afk: does the system use DHCP?
[09:25] <sm-afk> yes
[09:25] <aLPHa_LeaK> valentyn, if someone knows how to, they'll tell you...
[09:25] <jcmcbeth> Does anyone see anything wrong with this command to do IP masquarding? "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE"?
[09:25] <amphi> woo: try 'echo NTPSERVERS="pool.ntp.org" | sudo tee -a /etc/default/ntpdate' without the outer single quotes
[09:25] <paradizelost> sm-afk: that's gonna be the only downside, sometimes the DHCP will overwrite the 127.0.0.1 w/ the address provided
[09:25] <kevin> Greetings, I am trying to run easyubuntu, but the repositories do not seem to be there anymore, are there new addresses I should use?
[09:26] <sm-afk> yes it does.. I'll have to override that
[09:26] <amphi> jcmcbeth: looks ok
[09:26] <paradizelost> jcmcbeth: eth0 is the external right?
[09:26] <jcmcbeth> pretty, sure yeah
[09:26] <roryy> woo: i take it the many terminals opened didn't help your sudo problem ?
[09:26] <jcmcbeth> When I try it my computer on my network still does not have internet access.
[09:26] <sm-afk> heading up there now, I'll see how it goes.. thanks again
[09:26] <paradizelost> !tell kevin about easyubuntu
[09:27] <woo> amphi: I can't run anything in "sudo", that's why I'm getting the timestamp error. And apparently when I run "su -", it says my pass is wrong....
[09:27] <amphi> jcmcbeth: did you also do 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' ?
[09:27] <paradizelost> kevin are you using the latest version on their site?
[09:27] <jcmcbeth> no
[09:27] <paradizelost> jcmcbeth: do as amphi just aid
[09:27] <valentyn> aLPHa_Leak, thanx! But i should ask tu become am answer!
[09:27] <amphi> woo: ah
[09:27] <paradizelost> tells it to allow the ip forwarding
[09:27] <paradizelost> amphi: his date is about 4 days behind
[09:27] <amphi> jcmcbeth: does cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward show 0 or 1 ?
[09:27] <roryy> woo: there's always the reboot into recovery mode option. not great, but if sudo's broken...
[09:27] <paradizelost> woo: CHANGE THE DAMN DATE IN THE BIOS
[09:27] <amphi> paradizelost: ntpdate won't care ;)
[09:28] <paradizelost> sorry
[09:28] <jcmcbeth> amphi: it says permission denied even when I use sudo
[09:28] <amphi> woo: sounds like you need to boot single user and fix your /etc/sudoers
[09:28] <roryy> woo: you can clean out the timestamps in /var/run/sudo/$USER
[09:28] <woo> roryy: But, I need sudo for that right?
[09:28] <paradizelost> roryy: his date is 4 days behind the real one
[09:28] <amphi> jcmcbeth: try 'echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'
[09:28] <roryy> woo: not for recovery mode
[09:28] <woo> Ugh.
[09:29] <woo> Brb
[09:29] <roryy> paradizelost: that can be fixed easily enough once sudo is fixed
[09:29] <jcmcbeth> amphi: it says 1
[09:29] <woo> It's the date that is causing problems...
[09:29] <amphi> jcmcbeth: that's as it should be
[09:29] <kevin> paradizelost, I am using the 3.0-beta, there's also a Bleeding Edge and Nightly Snapshot
[09:29] <jcmcbeth> amphi: I set this up before, but I restarted and it stopped working
[09:30] <Cryptid> When is Dapper gonna be released????? i have been pretty long for it
[09:30] <paradizelost> !dapper
[09:30] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[09:30] <ompaul> !dapper
[09:30] <ompaul> meh
[09:30] <amphi> jcmcbeth: the other box has its default gw set to the ip of the internal iface of the gw box?
[09:30] <jcmcbeth> amphi: oh great, now it just started working, thanks for the help
[09:30] <amphi> jcmcbeth: cool
[09:30] <paradizelost> kevin: the latest version of what?
[09:31] <MBurgerHM> hey ho!
[09:31] <|Sivik|> how does the menu.lst need to be set in order to get the DVI to work
[09:32] <paradizelost> brb.  gotta fill the water bottle
[09:32] <simp> hey...
[09:32] <|Sivik|> anyone here use DVI connector into the computer and linux?
[09:33] <paradizelost> |Sivik|: i have mine that way, it just works...
[09:34] <kevin> paradizelost, the latest version of easyubuntu
[09:34] <simp> okey... i have many many many questions right now... any chance of connecting to wireles network with TKIP in linux? does it allways wait like a minute or 2 and then connects to internet? and then the last one, how to change the keyboard layout language?
[09:34] <valentyn> Hi! I have "RHYTHMBOX 0.9.0" installed. How can i upgrade it?
[09:34] <paradizelost> ahh.  k
[09:34] <|Sivik|> paradizelost: well, i have a guy that is having problems when he has the DVI connected
[09:34] <paradizelost> |Sivik|: does the vid. card have more than 1 output?
[09:34] <simp> oh and i almost forgot, i reinstalled GRUB because i couldn't boot linux, now i can't boot windows
[09:34] <|Sivik|> yes
[09:34] <|Sivik|> he says it works with vga but not dvi
[09:35] <|Sivik|> his dvi problem looks like http://piano.juicemedia.tv/photos/messed1.jpg
[09:35] <paradizelost> |Sivik|: the vid card may not be able to use the DVI as primary
[09:35] <paradizelost> what type of card?
[09:35] <paradizelost> !easyubuntu
[09:35] <Apostle^> |Sivik|, the signal is scrambled
[09:36] <Apostle^> |Sivik|, he needs a new cord i'd say
[09:36] <paradizelost> |Sivik|: is it an LCD screen?
[09:36] <newtuxman> can anyone help me get this ubuntu box on the network
[09:36] <newtuxman> ?
[09:36] <paradizelost> or a tv
[09:36] <Apostle^> newpers, wired or wireless
[09:36] <Apostle^> newtuxman, wired or wireless
[09:36] <newtuxman> i should rephrase
[09:36] <newtuxman> i want it on a domain
[09:36] <newtuxman> net network is fine
[09:36] <paradizelost> !ldap
[09:36] <ubotu> paradizelost: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:36] <simp>  any chance of connecting to wireles network with TKIP in linux? does it allways wait like a minute or 2 and then connects to internet? and then the last one, how to change the keyboard layout language?i reinstalled GRUB because i couldn't boot linux, now i can't boot windows... sorry to repeat my questions...
[09:37] <newtuxman> getting shared directories and shared printers
[09:37] <paradizelost> newtuxman: sounds like you want to implement ldap
[09:37] <dennis_> hi
[09:37] <paradizelost> !samba
[09:37] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[09:37] <paradizelost> ^^^ for newtuxman
[09:37] <dennis_>  hallo
[09:37] <newtuxman> well i figured i would use samba, but the BEST i can get is it will ONLY get about half of the directories shared by the domain server its self
[09:38] <paradizelost> dennis_: saw you say hi the first time
[09:38] <paradizelost> newtuxman: what version of server?
[09:38] <newtuxman> it wont see any other computers.
[09:38] <newtuxman> windows server 2003
[09:38] <simp>  any chance of connecting to wireles network with TKIP in linux? does it allways wait like a minute or 2 and then connects to internet? and then the last one, how to change the keyboard layout language?i reinstalled GRUB because i couldn't boot linux, now i can't boot windows... sorry to repeat my questions...
[09:38] <dennis_> yes , hm , i am new with ubuntu , are you german?
[09:38] <paradizelost> !de
[09:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[09:38] <Old> how to do i copy a folder to another dir? ex /home/cz to /home/cz/1
[09:38] <selinium> is there anyway of testing /dev/midi ?
[09:38] <|Sivik|> paradizelost: lcd
[09:38] <paradizelost> Old: mkdir /home/cz/1 && cp -Rfv /home/cz /home/cz/1
[09:39] <paradizelost> |Sivik|: sounds like it's outputting at too high of a frequency for the LCD
[09:39] <valentyn> How to upgrade RHYTHMBOX to newest version?
[09:39] <|Sivik|> ok
[09:39] <paradizelost> selinium: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/midi     possibly
[09:39] <paradizelost> valentyn: only security updates are done w/in a version
[09:39] <|Sivik|> paradizelost: how can that be fixed
[09:39] <OneFix_Work> Who presses Ubuntu's CDs?
[09:40] <paradizelost> |Sivik|: i've not managed to fix it myself.  set it up using the vga cable and then swap till it's up in X
[09:40] <|Sivik|> ok
[09:40] <robbt> hey i'm having a network problem, for some reason the drivers for my ethernet card a NVidia mcp51 quit working after an updated with dapper drake yesterday
[09:40] <paradizelost> robbt: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:40] <robbt> join #ubuntu+1
[09:41] <Falstius>  valentyn, you can upgrade to dapper for 0.9.3.1
[09:41] <simp>  any chance of connecting to wireles network with TKIP in linux? does it allways wait like a minute or 2 and then connects to internet? and then the last one, how to change the keyboard layout language?i reinstalled GRUB because i couldn't boot linux, now i can't boot windows... sorry to repeat my questions...
[09:41] <paradizelost> simp: i'd try a different channel
[09:41] <OneFix_Work> I'm looking for someone to press about 2000-3000 CDs and I figured that whoever does Ubuntu's CDs might be good
[09:41] <paradizelost> OneFix_Work: you could buy a machine by Rimage
[09:41] <simp> but which channel
[09:42] <paradizelost> OneFix_Work: i've used them in the past, 4 dvd burners, can burn 4 DVD's at 1 time
[09:42] <paradizelost> simp i dunno
[09:42] <simp> sorry i'm new to this ubuntu business
[09:42] <jacob__> tahorg: are you there?! i think i got disconnected
[09:42] <bluefoxicy> I want to be able to get shipit to send me Xubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu/Ubuntu packs :P
[09:42] <tarzeau> http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ubuntu/uncurse
[09:42] <bluefoxicy> instead of 50 ubuntu CDs where I use all of 5 of them.
[09:43] <salmiak_> newtuxman, share directories, as in writable dirs?
[09:43] <tahorg> jacob__: yep, are you registered ? :)
[09:43] <paradizelost> bluefoxicy: they're hoping you give them out
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> paradizelost:  nobody wants them :(
[09:43] <valentyn> Falstius, thanx but dapper has not yet been released
[09:43] <jacob__> tahorg: apperently not
[09:43] <paradizelost> !dapper
[09:43] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[09:43] <gnomefreak> tarzeau: why did you just come in here and paste a link that isnt gonna help anyone?
[09:43] <valentyn> any other idea?
[09:43] <paradizelost> valentyn: it's in final beta
[09:43] <jacob__> tahorg: i think i am now
[09:43] <paradizelost> valentyn: you could download the latest source and compile it.
[09:43] <paradizelost> :D
[09:44] <tarzeau> gnomefreak: it helped me, and i thought it'll be plenty helpful to all other ubuntu users
[09:44] <valentyn> paradizelost, sorry i duno how!
[09:44] <newtuxman> salmiak_,  what i want is that when i click the domain, it gives m ea list of all the other computers on the doimain... we add and remove boxes that i need to make use off to frequently to make static links all over my desktop
[09:44] <Falstius> valentyn: it is pretty usable now.  If you have the expertise to install rhythmbox from source, you have the skills to run a final beta of dapper.
[09:44] <Falstius> why do you need to update?
[09:44] <newtuxman> but, even with what i see here, i can ONLY access the shared directories on the domain server, and for some reason its not even getting all of them
[09:44] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[09:44] <ubotu> [upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:44] <paradizelost> ^^^ valentyn
[09:45] <gnomefreak> tarzeau: if you add a discription it might be more helpful to people and btw its still spamming
[09:45] <valentyn> Falstius, yeah youre right, but ill wait 2 weeks
[09:45] <tarzeau> gnomefreak: good idea, i'll insert a description into the script
[09:45] <denver> when is dapper going to be released?
[09:45] <paradizelost> !dapper
[09:45] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[09:45] <valentyn> Falstius, untill the final release
[09:45] <yourmom> tahorg: sorry, i  dont think i can login again
[09:46] <gnomefreak> tarzeau: than i recommend posting it in #ubuntu-offtopic not in here
[09:46] <salmiak_> newtuxman, ah, as i understand it, you don't want to be a samba server, you just want to be a client?
[09:46] <tarzeau> gnomefreak: good idea!
[09:46] <gnomefreak> paradizelost: you like that command huh ? lol
[09:46] <rikunzta> tahorg: ok, i can do private chat now
[09:47] <toverton> I have booted into recovery mode, and I need to get a list of users created. When I tried to make my user, apparently I mistyped the name or pw, and I cannot log in. This problem was due to the limitations of VPC 2004, and I could not see all of the screen. Any help appreciated...
[09:47] <tahorg> rikunzta: ssh closed
[09:47] <jeff303> how can I mount one of my ntfs partitions (read only of course) such that ordinary users have read access?  basically I don't want to have to "sudo totem" just to play my music from that partition
[09:48] <jeff303> I try to chmod it after mounting, but it can't "read only filesystem"
[09:48] <wasabi__> man mount
[09:48] <jago25_98> I can't seem to select jre1.4 as my default java (need it for `FOP`)
[09:48] <paradizelost> jeff303: 172.16.0.9:/media/shareddata    /media/shareddata       nfs     ro,proto=tcp,defaults 0 0
[09:48] <paradizelost> add to fstab
[09:48] <Juhaz> toverton, cat /etc/passwd
[09:48] <wasabi__> FOP doesn't require Sun's JRE.
[09:48] <wasabi__> don't think so anyways
[09:48] <paradizelost> jeff303: just make the appropriate modifications
[09:49] <oklinux> can some one help me install java
[09:49] <toverton> Juhaz: Looks like I found it ... Much appreciated!
[09:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell oklinux about java
[09:50] <Falstius> gnomefreak: did you read Tarzeau's script?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> Falstius: yes and i find it very unsafe
[09:50] <jago25_98> wasabi__: It doesn't work when I type `fop --help`
[09:50] <Tonren> Hey all.. I'm installing the daily Dapper build on my Compaq Presario v2565us (v2000 series) from a Live CD, and when I try to run Ubuntu, I get the following error as it jumps back to console: "Decompressing LInux kernel... done.  Booting Kernel.  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off."  What gives?
[09:50] <wasabi__> jago25_98: What happens?
[09:50] <paradizelost> Tonren: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:51] <toverton> Here's a shock too: I just installed Suse 10.1 on a VPC, and it uses Gnome 2.12.... I was kinda surprised, since it dropped yesterday.
[09:51] <Falstius> gnomefreak: that and utterly pointless.  I'm just shocked that you bothered to respond in a semi-civilized way instead of just ignoring it completely or berating him with a carp.
[09:51] <Tonren> Paradize: Is that the Dapper channel?
[09:51] <paradizelost> yes
[09:51] <Tonren> thanks
[09:51] <jago25_98> wasabi__: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/avalon/framework/logger/Logger
[09:51] <jago25_98>  at org.apache.fop.apps.Fop.main(Fop.java:60)
[09:51] <simp> !paste
[09:51] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[09:51] <gnomefreak> Falstius: i figured it is nicer to explain to to kick
[09:51] <wasabi__> You're missing componenets.
[09:51] <wasabi__> Apache componenets.
[09:51] <wasabi__> Might need to read FOPs install directions.
[09:51] <rikunzta> tahorg: i can't plug in without router
[09:51] <Falstius> gnomefreak: then you're a lot nicer than I am :)
[09:52] <Tonren> simp, was that directed at me?
[09:52] <bradley> hi. i'm trying to install realplayer (which is a .bin) and bittorrent (.deb) but i can't get either to do anything i tried to get the gdebi but it couldn't be found. what should i do?
[09:53] <|Sivik|> paradizelost: you still around?
[09:53] <paradizelost> yep
[09:53] <simp> no
[09:53] <simp> i just wanted to see Tonren
[09:54] <simp> what was that pastebin adress
[09:54] <Tonren> ah.
[09:54] <daveCB> why cant i play cds or dvds under kubuntu desktop?
[09:54] <|Sivik|> daveCB: what kind of error do you get?
[09:54] <Minty> "
[09:54] <schasi> Hi there
[09:54] <jago25_98> wasabi__: but it mentions java? I can see FOPs` requirements
[09:54] <wasabi__> Alright. That's fine.
[09:54] <wasabi__> What are you trying to ask?
[09:54] <daveCB> |Sivik|, with cds i dont get any errors it just doesnt play
[09:54] <schasi> did anyone else try to install dapper and failed?
[09:55] <paradizelost> |Sivik|: did you need something?
[09:55] <daveCB> well it plays but theres no sound
[09:55] <paradizelost> schasi: probably more appropriate for #ubuntu+1
[09:55] <daveCB> tried to reconfigure the sound card but still no sound
[09:55] <daveCB> :S
[09:55] <aLPHa_LeaK> bradley, open up a terminal and type "sudo dpkg -i (enter file name here).deb" for the bittorrent
[09:55] <|Sivik|> paradizelost: no, i got my problem fixed
[09:55] <schasi> paradizelost: tthx
[09:55] <paradizelost> daveCB: try from a terminal   # cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[09:55] <paradizelost> do you get sound doing that
[09:55] <bradley> okay i'll try that
[09:55] <paradizelost> ?
[09:56] <jago25_98> wasabi__: *can't see what I need to install to use FOP without having an exception throw up
[09:56] <wasabi__> What are the dependencies for FOP?
[09:56] <wasabi__> You are missing Apache Avalon, according tot he message.
[09:56] <daveCB> paradizelost,  just a sec :P
[09:56] <paradizelost> daveCB: you may want your volume down a bit when you do that
[09:56] <HotDrive> Hi. Need help upgrading firefox
[09:57] <paradizelost> HotDrive: to what version"?
[09:57] <paradizelost> !ff
[09:57] <ubotu> paradizelost: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:57] <paradizelost> !firefox
[09:57] <HotDrive> 1.5
[09:57] <paradizelost> !firefox
[09:57] <HotDrive> !firefox
[09:57] <_jason> HotDrive: if you wait less than 3 weeks, dapper will be released and you can upgrade to dapper and get firefox1.5 using the package manager
[09:57] <slackern> !ff1.5
[09:57] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:58] <nysosym> Hi all
[09:58] <nysosym> i think i found a bug in Dapper (all updates)
[09:58] <_jason> nysosym: #ubuntu+1
[09:58] <wasabi__> Or report it.
[09:58] <jago25_98> wasabi__: `avalon development has stopped`
[09:58] <HotDrive> I tried the wiki and it crashed
[09:58] <wasabi__> jago25_98: And?
[09:59] <paradizelost> HotDrive: you could update to the dapper flight 7
[09:59] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[09:59] <ubotu> I guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:59] <HotDrive> !upgrade
[09:59] <wasabi__> jago25_98: Your problem is you are missing dependencies of FOP. Something in org.apache.avalon is the first one. You're sort of on your own here.
[09:59] <wasabi__> Or ask the FOP guys.
[10:00] <daveCB> paradizelost,  what was that command line again ?
[10:00] <daveCB> sorry
[10:00] <paradizelost> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[10:00] <paradizelost> make sure your volume is down a ways
[10:01] <daveCB> ohhh damn
[10:01] <daveCB> i get sound
[10:01] <daveCB> a weird one
[10:01] <tritium> !enter
[10:01] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:01] <daveCB> like when theres no image on the tv
[10:02] <paradizelost> daveCB: yep.  that's random output
[10:02] <daveCB> so what does this means?
[10:02] <paradizelost> daveCB: that means your sound card is working, you have a problem w/ your sound system
[10:02] <paradizelost> what card do you have?
[10:02] <paradizelost> nvidia?
[10:02] <daveCB> yeahh
[10:02] <daveCB> nvdia gforce fx
[10:02] <paradizelost> are you trying to use alsa or OSS?
[10:03] <daveCB> alsa
[10:03] <wasabi__> Doesn't matter. /dev/dsp works. OSS would work.
[10:03] <wasabi__> What CD playing software are you using?
[10:03] <paradizelost> open xmms and try changing the sound system til you find one that works, i've had issues w/ nvidia cards and alsa
[10:03] <daveCB> xmms or can i use bmp to do that?
[10:04] <aLPHa_LeaK> can anyone help me with this problem?: sometimes, when i boot into grub i just see "GRUB " and nothing is moving or responding...what kind of error is this and how might you be able to fix it?
[10:04] <paradizelost> if you use xmms, go into your preferences
[10:04] <paradizelost> aLPHa_LeaK: that says you have a problem w/ grupb
[10:04] <paradizelost> grub
[10:04] <aLPHa_LeaK> paradizelost, i know that much...
[10:04] <paradizelost> daveCB: and change the sound plugin to OSS
[10:05] <HotDrive> here can I upgrade the dapper (and what is it...?)
[10:05] <aLPHa_LeaK> because it won't boot...
[10:05] <paradizelost> !dapper
[10:05] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[10:05] <aLPHa_LeaK> !upgrade
[10:05] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[10:05] <paradizelost> ^^ HotDrive
[10:05] <paradizelost> aLPHa_LeaK: are you trying to boot to an external hard drive?
[10:05] <_jason> HotDrive: dapper is still beta, just so you are aware of that
[10:06] <aLPHa_LeaK> paradizelost, no. and the problem comes from time to time and disppears again magically after a while...
[10:06] <HotDrive> so... I just have to wait for mu system to update itself and firefox 1.5.0.3 will be availiablesoon, right?
[10:07] <paradizelost> aLPHa_LeaK: when i run into that is usually when /boot is on a drive that isn't recognized, but the bootloader is on a drive that is recognized
[10:07] <paradizelost> make sure that all drives are detected in the bios
[10:07] <paradizelost> HotDrive: i don't know if breezy will update to dapper even after it's final until you do the instructions in !upgrade
[10:07] <aLPHa_LeaK> paradizelost, oh...hmmm...thats weird...i have 2 hdds...
[10:07] <paradizelost> aLPHa_LeaK: could have a drive going out
[10:08] <aLPHa_LeaK> paradizelost, thanks for the info.
[10:08] <paradizelost> np
[10:08] <dobo> Does anyone happen to know the program for installing dbk files?
[10:08] <dobo> err, .deb
[10:08] <spikeb> paradizelost: it SHOULD
[10:08] <HotDrive> I'm sorry but I'm realy new at this and don't quite get all you are saying...
[10:08] <daveCB> paradizelost, doesn't work :(
[10:08] <aLPHa_LeaK> dobo, dpkg -i
[10:08] <paradizelost> daveCB: are you using kde?
[10:08] <amphi> dobo: dpkg -i
[10:08] <daveCB> yeah
[10:08] <aLPHa_LeaK> hehe amphi ;)
[10:09] <spikeb> HotDrive: it might offer to upgrade you when the next release comes out, but we're not sure
[10:09] <amphi> ;)
[10:09] <spikeb> HotDrive: none of the developers are here, so...
[10:09] <paradizelost> daveCB: kde uses ArtsD which will lock the sound system for KDE
[10:09] <paradizelost> try using gnome and see if you have the problem
[10:09] <daveCB> no  i dont  :P
[10:09] <daveCB> but im more of a kde lover then gnome
[10:09] <Blissex> paradizelost: not totally, if one uses a sw sharing device with with aRts and other apps.
[10:09] <daveCB> (more user friendly etc...)
[10:10] <paradizelost> Blissex: but his card is OSS
[10:10] <paradizelost> one thing using it at a time
[10:10] <spikeb> so use the artsd output
[10:10] <HotDrive> so, no one is sure if the Ubuntu will upgrade itself of if we have to get a new version and then install it?
[10:10] <Blissex> daveCB: good good, also consider joining #Kubuntu, #Ubuntu is more for GNOME users.
[10:10] <spikeb> HotDrive: basically.
[10:11] <Blissex> paradizelost: well, cards are usually equally well (or badly) supported by OSS and ALSA both. And Ubuntu really uses ALSA usually.
[10:11] <spikeb> HotDrive: that has more to do with the knowledge of those who are here than anything with ubuntu though
[10:11] <HotDrive> I've installed Ubuntu twice today... I'll use it as it is and wait then... thanks
[10:11] <paradizelost> Blissex: i've had some nvidia cards that are not supported by alsa
[10:11] <wasabi__> Ubunt does not *automaticall*y upgrade between releases. That would be destructiive.
[10:12] <wasabi__> You can of course manually upgrade to whatever you want at any time.
[10:12] <Blissex> paradizelost: yes, that happens sometimes...
[10:12] <spikeb> HotDrive: sure, come back some other time and ask the question again :)
[10:12] <gnomefreak> there will be a menu option to upgrade releases iirc
[10:12] <HotDrive> ok, bye
[10:15] <paradizelost> brb
[10:15] <rikunzta> tahorg: you there?
[10:16] <tahorg> yep
[10:16] <rikunzta> go on pm
[10:20] <lol> * A conversar em #ubuntu
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[10:20] <lol> lol
[10:20] <apokryphos> what are you doing?
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[10:20] <_jason> tritium wins
[10:20] <ompaul> yeap
[10:21] <tritium> I think ompaul won ;)
[10:21] <moistrous> hey
[10:21] <moistrous> how do i turn on sendmail?
[10:21] <ompaul> tritium, na you did, as I did not band
[10:21] <ompaul> arrr
[10:22] <GTroy> I downloaded eggdrop, but I can't find the config file....any help would be appreciated
[10:22] <moistrous> i'm trying to use localhost to send mail and it says "connection refused"
[10:22] <moistrous> how do i turn this  on?
[10:22] <tritium> ompaul: well, I +q'ed (+b %), just to quiet him up
[10:22] <gnomefreak> moistrous: start by installing it?
[10:22] <ompaul> yeap
[10:22] <GTroy> !locate
[10:22] <ubotu> locate is probably a tool to find files located on your system. 'locate bash' for example will find the location of your file.
[10:22] <Minty> I'v got no sound on my setup, MSI S270 laptop running amd64, any ideas ?
[10:23] <paradizelost> ahh,  much better...
[10:23] <paradizelost> moistrous: you need a mail server installed
[10:23] <moistrous> i was under the impression it was already installed
[10:23] <moistrous> poop
[10:23] <dobo> I am trying to install java, it create a jre folder on the desktop (the binary did). Where should I move it
[10:24] <moistrous> dobe, i think java will remove it once it finishes installing
[10:24] <spikeb> !java
[10:24] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:25] <moistrous> haha! awesome! all i had to do was apt-get install sendmail and it works... fuckin right! thanks guys
[10:25] <paradizelost> np
[10:25] <newbuntie> I've purchased a new monitor, how do I reconfigure x, is there a config app of some sort or do I have to do it by hand?
[10:26] <tritium> newbuntie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:26] <newbuntie> tritium: that will detect my monitor, right, so I have to connect it first?
[10:27] <newbuntie> i'm guessing the answer is yes, so anyway, thanks
[10:28] <tritium> newbuntie: sorry, stepped away.  Yes, it can autodetect
[10:28] <ompaul> ompaul1, john change your nick :-)
[10:28] <Old> If i want to copy /home/cz1/1 folder to /home/cz/2 - what's the command?
[10:29] <paradizelost> Old: i told you that about 1/2 hour ago
[10:29] <roryy> rsync /home/cz1/1/ /home/cz/2
[10:29] <Minty> I would like to set up a vpn acces, anyone tell me what i need ?
[10:29] <roryy> err
[10:29] <thoreauputic_> Old: cp -r /home/cz1/1 /home/cz/2  would do
[10:29] <Old> paradizelost, yaeh i know, but that confused me abit
[10:29] <Old> :D
[10:29] <roryy> bizarre directory names
[10:29] <Old> thanks thoreauputic_
[10:30] <Old> that's would copy the folder, to the other one, correct?
[10:30] <thoreauputic_> Old: recursively
[10:30] <harfooz> hi all. If I install the beta of 6.06 now, will I be able to upgrade to the final version when it comes out? (doing such isn't recommended for other distributions, I know)
[10:31] <spikeb> yeah
[10:31] <spikeb> harfooz: yeah
[10:31] <thoreauputic_> Old: you need permission for /home/cz
[10:31] <ubuntu> hi guys
[10:31] <thoreauputic_> Old: which you probably lack write access for
[10:31] <harfooz> cool. thanks spikeb. I'm dl'ing the iso right now.
[10:31] <spikeb> harfooz: cool :)
[10:31] <selinium> thoreauputic_: did you get midi working on you pc?
[10:31] <thoreauputic_> selinium: yes, ages ago :)
[10:31] <ubuntu> i have just installed dapper to my external hardrive, but when i try to boot it hangs at mounting filesys
[10:32] <selinium> Can you give me a hand :)
[10:32] <paradizelost> !externa
[10:32] <ubotu> paradizelost: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:32] <paradizelost> !external
[10:32] <ubotu> hmm... external is For installing to external USB drives, the MAY WORK for you. You have been warned. Read the instructions and requirements carefully.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[10:32] <thoreauputic_> selinium: the big buzz at the momnet is I have adsl2+
[10:32] <ubuntu> thanx guys
[10:32] <thoreauputic_> :D
[10:32] <harfooz> spikeb, I have 5.10 already on a spare drive, but it has several unofficial packages installed on it (nvidia driver, acroread, etc.). Is it possible to avoid burning the iso and upgrade from breezy?
[10:32] <selinium> thoreauputic_: even betterer! :)
[10:32] <thoreauputic_> selinium: what's the trouble?
[10:32] <sivik> does ubuntu have ntfs support?
[10:32] <spikeb> harfooz: you can TRY via apt, if you want
[10:33] <paradizelost> harfooz: just do the upgrade
[10:33] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[10:33] <slackern> !ntfs
[10:33] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:33] <spikeb> harfooz: might break the unofficial stuff though
[10:33] <paradizelost> sivik: it can read, but i do NOT recommend writing
[10:33] <Sionide> HAL just died, anyway i can restart it without rebooting the machine??
[10:33] <thoreauputic_> selinium: I d/l ed a CD in ten minutes - blew my mind :)
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> sivik: I've heard Dapper does, but haven't tried it on the beta myself.  Always something to be wary of.
[10:33] <paradizelost> thoreauputic_: you think that's good.  i got one in 5
[10:33] <sivik> paradizelost, if i can read, can i copy from?
[10:33] <paradizelost> downloading at 2500KBps
[10:33] <pitti> Sionide: can you please update to the latest hal in dapper and check if it works then?
[10:33] <paradizelost> sivik: yes.
[10:34] <thoreauputic_> paradizelost: wow !
[10:34] <harfooz> I'll give it a shot. I've got all my ~ data backed up externally, so a worst-case situation would just mean doing a fresh install like I was going to do anyways.
[10:34] <Sionide> pitti, nah i'm running breezy
[10:34] <sivik> paradizelost: k
[10:34] <pitti> Sionide: ah, 'k
[10:34] <spikeb> harfooz: yup :)
[10:34] <paradizelost> thoreauputic_: DAP 7.5 is nice that way...
[10:34] <Sionide> pitti, i'm sure dapper will be fine - can't wait for the release and no i'm not gonna upgrade before then
[10:34] <Sionide> :p
[10:34] <harfooz> thanks very much paradizelost and spikeb for the help!
[10:34] <paradizelost> np
[10:34] <spikeb> no problem
[10:34] <selinium> thoreauputic_: I have a cable plugged from my Soundblaster live to me guitar effects processor. I am trying to use JSythlib to deep edit the box. But when I do a midi loopback it doesn't get any response......
[10:34] <alex__> HELLO
[10:34] <pitti> Sionide: make sure to test the live CD then, to help us fix bugs :-P
[10:35] <Sionide> pitti, i certainly will do that
[10:35] <thoreauputic_> paradizelost: ah well - this is culture shock: i had dialup until three days ago !
[10:35] <paradizelost> ahh
[10:35] <paradizelost> that must've sucked...
[10:35] <selinium> thoreauputic_: adsl2 cd in a few minutes wow! I heard the universities had managed to transmit 8gb in uder 4 mins on www2...
[10:35] <thoreauputic_> selinium: oh - that's way beyond my simple midi playing setup
[10:36] <thoreauputic_> paradizelost: in retrospect, yes it sucked :)
[10:36] <selinium> thoreauputic_: :) I just want to get simple stuff working. Did you have to install any extra alsa stuff?
[10:36] <dobo> thank you all <3
[10:36] <thoreauputic_> selinium: I just have timidity and rosegarden working
[10:37] <thoreauputic_> selinium: the main things wer modprobing snd_seq and such I think
[10:37] <dedalus> hi
[10:37] <thoreauputic_> *were
[10:37] <crimsun> thoreauputic_: do you have an sblive and are running current dapper?
[10:37] <thoreauputic_> selinium: although actually I think timidity did that for me this time (can't recall)
[10:37] <selinium> thoreauputic_: Yeah, i have sorted that already... Arrrghgghghggh It is driving me crazy!
[10:38] <thoreauputic_> crimsun: no, and no :)
[10:38] <crimsun> sigh.
[10:38] <thoreauputic_> crimsun: I have a crappy onboard card
[10:38] <crimsun> I need to find someone with an sblive who runs current dapper
[10:38] <woo> Out of all of these http://pastebin.com/714172, which ones have to do with video?
[10:39] <woo> and/or PCI
[10:39] <paradizelost> woo: what's the issue?
[10:39] <paradizelost> modules can deal w/ multiple things
[10:39] <thoreauputic_> crimsun: I'm a little nervous about dist-upgrading as I have a lot of things here that are not standard (compiled apps etc) - should that be a problem?
[10:39] <woo> paradizelost: Hotplug hangs at startup due to my PCI video card.
[10:40] <crimsun> thoreauputic_: should be fine unless they're C++
[10:40] <woo> paradizelost: I disabled A lot of modules, when I had Linux before, and it stopped hanging, I fortgot which though
[10:40] <thoreauputic_> crimsun: they were  done with checkinstall if that helps...
[10:40] <crimsun> thoreauputic_: eek, you'll want to remove those first, then
[10:40] <paradizelost> nvidia, agpgart, vesafb, vga16fb, vgastate,
[10:40] <paradizelost> as far as i can tell
[10:40] <woo> paradizelost: The ones I have now are: nvidia, pcc_acpi, dev_acpi, sony_acpi, agpgart, i2c_core, i2c_acpi_ec, video, vesafb
[10:40] <woo> paradizelost: Still hangs.
[10:41] <woo> There has to be another.
[10:41] <thoreauputic_> crimsun: why, will the versions be a problem? they are all in /usr/local
[10:41] <paradizelost> hangs on what?
[10:41] <woo> Boot up.
[10:41] <crimsun> thoreauputic_: no, only dependencies (namely the C++ ones)
[10:41] <paradizelost> what do you have in /etc/modules?
[10:41] <paradizelost> might not be a vid card issue either.
[10:41] <thoreauputic_> crimsun: hmm - I have fluxbox in there - could be c++ I think
[10:41] <paradizelost> my desktop at home hangs at hotplug w/ breezy detecting the integrated sound
[10:42] <paradizelost> and others
[10:42] <woo> paradizelost: I am absolutely positive it is my card.
[10:42] <paradizelost> !hotplug
[10:42] <ubotu> paradizelost: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:42] <paradizelost> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=971835
[10:42] <woo> paradizelost: The only one that's the same in that list is "nvidia"
[10:43] <woo> Those don't work.
[10:43] <crimsun> thoreauputic_: yeah, uninstall it before then recompile it after the dist-upgrade
[10:44] <Pons> hey guys.. have anyone tried ltsp howto on wiki.ubuntu.com?
[10:44] <Pons> i'm having a problem right now
[10:44] <paradizelost> Pons: #ltsp
[10:44] <thoreauputic_> crimsun: OK that's cool - thanks for the tip
[10:44] <thoreauputic_> :)
[10:44] <crimsun> thoreauputic_: np
[10:44] <Pons> i think it is a problem on ubuntu implementation of ltsp paradizelost
[10:45] <paradizelost> Pons: what's the issue?
[10:45] <paradizelost> they do support the ubuntu version in #ltsp too, fyi.
[10:46] <the_mug> what is the command to uninstall an OLD kernel.. is here one that removes the Grub entries?
[10:46] <the_mug> I tried dpkg -r kernel-i386 and it didn't remove the grub entry
[10:46] <Jowi> the_mug: you remove it with "apt-get remove"
[10:46] <the_mug> doh!
[10:47] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone help me?i have instaled firestarter in synaptic but it does not apear in the system
[10:47] <paradizelost> the_mug: you could sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove theones you don't want
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> the_mug: Maybe you need an update-grub afterwards if that doesn't do it, but with a-g remove I would think it would be fine.
[10:47] <the_mug> hmm I guess I'll remove the entries manually this time and file that one away
[10:47] <paradizelost> chaos_of_apocaly: open a terminal and run sudo firestarter
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> chaos_of_apocaly: Could you describe what you mean by "does not appear" please?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> paradizelost: gksudo firestarter
[10:48] <gnomefreak> psst and its in the menu
[10:48] <chaos_of_apocaly> its not anywhere
[10:48] <the_mug> paradizelost: jow: tonyyarusso: gracias!
[10:48] <chaos_of_apocaly> but in synaptic is instaled
[10:48] <gnomefreak> chaos_of_apocaly: killall gnome-panel
[10:48] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: i'm in the habit of always using sudo.  i know there can be issues though..... :D
[10:48] <gnomefreak> ;)
[10:48] <paradizelost> chaos_of_apocaly: try gksudo firestarter
[10:48] <paradizelost> it may just not be in your applications list
[10:49] <gnomefreak> when you install things they dont show up alot of times until the panel is restarted
[10:49] <chaos_of_apocaly> its ok thanks
[10:49] <thoreauputic_> paradizelost: frankly I've never had problems running X apps with sudo in gnome - in KDE it's disastrous though ( .Xauthority and .ICEauthority )
[10:50] <the_mug> is anyone else here running production Ubuntu Server Installs?
[10:50] <paradizelost> thoreauputic_: yah, those are the ones i've had problems w/ as well
[10:50] <OneTruth> is there a command to handle Zip archives built in to ubuntu?
[10:50] <thoreauputic_> OneTruth: file-roller
[10:50] <paradizelost> OneTruth: are you needing .zip specifically?
[10:50] <gnomefreak> !zip
[10:50] <ubotu> to unzip a .zip file type in terminal unzip file.zip   replace the word file with the name of the file. also you can man zip or man unzip for more parameters
[10:50] <OneTruth> yeah its a .zip file
[10:50] <spikeb> not me
[10:50] <OneTruth> thanks!
[10:50] <gsl83> Hi! I've been trying to start Ubuntu from a live CD. (5.10 and 6.06 32 Bit and 64 Bit) all of them stop booting at some point without giving an error message.
[10:50] <thoreauputic_> yes "zip" is fine on CLI
[10:50] <spikeb> if i was running a production server, it'd run centos or debian stable
[10:51] <paradizelost> gsl83: what does it say when it locks? what stage is it at?
[10:51] <thoreauputic_> file-roller handles zip too
[10:51] <OneTruth> cool
[10:51] <gsl83> Currently I'm trying to boot 5.10 i386. That one stops at "* Starting hotplug subsystem"
[10:51] <paradizelost> gsl83: possibly try disabling your sound card
[10:52] <paradizelost> i've seen it lock there w/ some sound cards
[10:52] <gsl83> Others stop at "Mounting root filesytem..."
[10:52] <invisibleshadow> i need help fixing my sound
[10:52] <paradizelost> gsl83: do they stop or do you just not wait long enough?  also how much memory do you have
[10:52] <paradizelost> invisibleshadow: are you getting an error?
[10:53] <paradizelost> invisibleshadow: if you open a terminal and type   #  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp      do you get sound?
[10:53] <invisibleshadow> well, no error. I just don't hear anything beside the system souds
[10:53] <gsl83> paradizelost: I've waited for about 20 minutes. I have 1GB of memory.
[10:53] <the_mug> spikeb: what's the difference between Debian stable and Ubuntu Server install?
[10:53] <paradizelost> invisibleshadow: are you urnning kde?
[10:53] <invisibleshadow> gnome
[10:53] <paradizelost> invisibleshadow: is it an nvidia sound card?
[10:53] <invisibleshadow> let me try that comand
[10:53] <spikeb> the_mug: debian stable is older and better tested.
[10:54] <Old> how do i unzip a .bin file ?
[10:54] <Old> to a folder?
[10:54] <chaos_of_apocaly> when i instaled the first time ubuntu it asked me a root password,but this time it didnt and i cant login as root
[10:54] <paradizelost> Old: a .bin file is a binary file, you don't unzip it....
[10:54] <Old> how do i make it work then +
[10:54] <paradizelost> chmod 777 filename.bin && ./filename.bin
[10:54] <Jowi> !tell chaos_of_apocaly about root
[10:54] <invisibleshadow> something weird happened
[10:54] <invisibleshadow> but no sound
[10:55] <NoUse> Old I think the preferred phrase is "Make it go vroom"
[10:55] <paradizelost> invisibleshadow: did you get a hissing?
[10:55] <chaos_of_apocaly> yes but in the terminal it doesnot work to
[10:55] <invisibleshadow> cpu started running
[10:55] <paradizelost> chaos_of_apocaly: in ubuntu you cannot log in directly as root
[10:55] <invisibleshadow> and shell is stuck
[10:55] <chaos_of_apocaly> in hoary hedgehog i didi it
[10:55] <paradizelost> invisibleshadow: press ctrl+c
[10:55] <Jowi> chaos_of_apocaly: ubotu should have sent you a pm with info
[10:55] <chaos_of_apocaly> in hoary hedgehog i did it
[10:55] <invisibleshadow> k
[10:55] <paradizelost> !root
[10:55] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:56] <ramvi> How do I make compiz start automaticly? Now I have to sudo compiz when I'm in Xgl?
[10:56] <paradizelost> ramvi: try #ubuntu-xgl
[10:56] <invisibleshadow> i think the card is intel
[10:56] <chaos_of_apocaly> i even login in gnome with root
[10:56] <ramvi> I'm there. There's no life.
[10:56] <paradizelost> invisibleshadow: do an lspci on the terminal
[10:56] <the_mug> spikeb: what about install process? I've installed several gentoo boxes... is the Debian Install like that?
[10:56] <invisibleshadow> k
[10:56] <paradizelost> chaos_of_apocaly: then you may have hosed your system.... :D
[10:56] <invisibleshadow> now what
[10:56] <chaos_of_apocaly> now waht???
[10:56] <paradizelost> invisibleshadow: look for your soundcard in that list
[10:57] <OneTruth> what is the command to instal a perl plugin?
[10:57] <paradizelost> invisibleshadow: is it found or does it say unknown?
[10:57] <chaos_of_apocaly> it ask me a password in the terminal to lgin as root but i didnt configured any
[10:57] <paradizelost> OneTruth: you probably want          perl -MCPAN -e shell
[10:57] <FX> anyone here run flightgear?
[10:57] <invisibleshadow> there are 2 things that are unknown devices
[10:57] <paradizelost> OneTruth: select no on the first ?
[10:57] <spikeb> the_mug: the debian install is very similar to the ubuntu text install, just asks more questions
[10:57] <OneTruth> paradizelost:  that is the one, I am writing it down this time ;)
[10:57] <paradizelost> OneTruth: then       instal Perl::Module
[10:58] <invisibleshadow> network controller and VGA compatible controller
[10:58] <chaos_of_apocaly> what do i do help me
[10:58] <the_mug> spikeb: thanks dude
[10:58] <Jowi> chaos_of_apocaly: try to set a password for root if you really need that feature.
[10:58] <chaos_of_apocaly> i dont no how
[10:59] <invisibleshadow> i have ICH6 family high definition audio controller (rev 04)
[10:59] <Jowi> chaos_of_apocaly: read the pm that ubotu sent you. the link is there
[10:59] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok
[11:00] <gnomefreak> what feature does root give you that sudo doesnt?
[11:01] <FX> Got a question. I updated and firefox updated and now I get this home page whenever I start firefox.  http://www.arizona.edu/  how do I get rid of that.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> FX: in the prefferences of ff you can set a home page
[11:02] <_jason> FX: what is set as the command for your browser in system > preferences > preferred applications?
[11:02] <FX> hmm it was set at custom.
[11:03] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: the only thing i can think of, when i install crossover office, it needs you logged in as root
[11:03] <_jason> FX: the command?
[11:03] <FX> firefox %s
[11:04] <chaos_of_apocaly> why should not we login grafically as root?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> chaos_of_apocaly: its unsafe
[11:04] <paradizelost> chaos_of_apocaly: it's a security issue
[11:04] <NoUse> chaos_of_apocaly dangerous
[11:04] <paradizelost> chaos_of_apocaly: you can screw the whole system up by making 1 mistake
[11:04] <chaos_of_apocaly> can you give me examples
[11:04] <_jason> FX: hrmm that's really weird, it take you to arizona still?
[11:04] <Minty> how do I move a file alsasound from my desktop to /etc/init.d ??? as I m not allowed to drop it in ,
[11:04] <paradizelost> chaos_of_apocaly: you are moving a folder from here to there, yhou move the wrong foldre
[11:04] <Jowi> chaos_of_apocaly: as paradizelost and NoUse said, and can break certain things like .Xauthority file
[11:04] <paradizelost> you hit delete and it deletes everything
[11:04] <FX> I fixed it now from my launcher, thanks
[11:05] <HunterZ> bye
[11:05] <NoUse> chaos_of_apocaly you don't gain anything from doing it either
[11:05] <chaos_of_apocaly> but not web security flaws??
[11:05] <_jason> FX: if you type %u into google you'll see why you were going to arizona.edu
[11:05] <FX> _jason, thanks
[11:05] <_jason> FX: np
[11:05] <chaos_of_apocaly> i can do sudo cant i?
[11:05] <taz> heloo
[11:05] <FX> Now to get my flightgear thingy fixed. lol
[11:05] <FX> Trying to figure out where to put the scenery file.
[11:05] <NoUse> chaos_of_apocaly yes, thats much safer than logining is as root
[11:05] <paradizelost> chaos_of_apocaly: if you go to a site that uses an exploit and you can infect the entire system
[11:06] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok
[11:06] <chaos_of_apocaly> thanks for explaining
[11:09] <gsl83> Disabling my soundcard helped for Ubuntu 5.10 i386. After booting it didn't start the X-Server because it found no devices and/or displays. So I thought I'd try the 64 Bit version. That one still hangs at NET: Registered protocol family 2
[11:09] <aLPHa_LeaK> n8
[11:10] <MagicFab> how can I find out the package that includes disks-admin ("Disk Manager" application)
[11:10] <linuxamoeba21> hello all
[11:10] <MagicFab> linuxamoeba21: hi
[11:11] <linuxamoeba21> i'm thinking about getting a second SATA hard drive and putting OSX86 on it for dual-booting... if i just unlug the ubuntu HDD, install OSX86 on the new one, and plug them both back in, will ubuntu handle it right
[11:12] <NoUse> MagicFab gnome-system-tools
[11:12] <|Sivik|> hi all again
[11:12] <syndicate47> can i make directories on an ubuntu machine available for sharing to all computers on the network, but require a password to access them? samba needs constant restarting and nfs' security is only based on ip.
[11:12] <Jowi> MagicFab: dpkg -S disks-admin
[11:13] <NoUse> syndicate47 what do you mean samba needs constant restarting? thats what I use for network sharing
[11:13] <|Sivik|> !nvidia
[11:13] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:13] <trappist> syndicate47: you could use sfs or sshfs
[11:13] <salmiak_> syndicate47, can't you tell samba to query for password?
[11:13] <rikunzta> hey, can someone help me set up ssh?
[11:13] <bbrazil> syndicate47: nfs security is not based only on IP, you need a low port too ;). Why are you restarting samba?
[11:13] <Jowi> !ssh
[11:13] <ubotu> it has been said that ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[11:14] <MagicFab> Jowi: tx!
[11:14] <Jowi> np MagicFab
[11:14] <syndicate47> NoUse, bbrazil i don't know why but the samba shares dissappears from the network after about 12 hours
[11:14] <linuxamoeba21> any thoughts on above dual boot question? i just want to be sure that the other OS's loader doesn't eat grub or something
[11:14] <NoUse> syndicate47 have you check your samba logs?
[11:15] <syndicate47> trappist, i can't get sshfs to mount a directory so that both root and i have access?
[11:16] <ruzgar> i have problems with myspl php and apache
[11:16] <crazy_penguin> hi
[11:16] <ruzgar> i want to return the configs to default values
[11:17] <ruzgar> how can i do that
[11:17] <crazy_penguin> what command can i use to setup the lm-sensors package?
[11:17] <Yango> watch out for sshfs over bumpy links... some apps might make you lose data
[11:17] <Yango> apt-get install lm-sensors ?
[11:17] <syndicate47> NoUse, no, there are too many logs and i don't know which to check
[11:17] <ruzgar> removing and reinstalling all that programs can solve my problem
[11:17] <crazy_penguin> not download
[11:17] <ruzgar> ?
[11:17] <crazy_penguin> to set it up
[11:17] <crazy_penguin> to run
[11:18] <tatters> http://www.dshield.org/ipinfo.php?ip=169.254.125.88&Submit=Submit     <--can someone tell me if that is a WAN address not a LAN address
[11:18] <bk> Can someone answer me a question?  Is CUPS only used for printers that are on a network?
[11:18] <Jowi> !tell crazy_penguin about sensors
[11:18] <crazy_penguin> thx
[11:19] <NoUse> bk no, local printers too
[11:19] <NoUse> syndicate47 pastebin /var/log/samba/log.smbd
[11:19] <linuxamoeba21> can anyone help me with dual booting via a new hard drive?
[11:20] <bbrazil> ruzgar: if you purge them (apt-get --purge) that'll work
[11:20] <NoUse> !tell linuxamoeba21 about dualboot
[11:21] <bbrazil> tatters: that address space is assigned to Microsoft, it is used for IPv4 autoconfiguration
[11:21] <paradizelost> bbrazil: you aren't talking about 169.254 are you?
[11:21] <linuxamoeba21> nouse, i already read those... doesn't quite cover my issue: i already have ubuntu and want to install a new hard drive with a new os for dual booting
[11:21] <bbrazil> paradizelost: yip
[11:22] <paradizelost> i don't even know why they bother to use that.  it never gets you anywhere anyways.../
[11:22] <paradizelost> i'd rather get  an error.  i assume that that address is an error.....
[11:22] <bbrazil> tatters: with v4, there's no such thing as a WAN address. Only looking at the physical network can tell you that
[11:22] <tatters> bbrazil:  thnx for info I keep getting SCAN UPnP service discover attempt in my snort log from a cpl of address in that range
[11:22] <NoUse> linuxamoeba21 do you want to copy your current ubuntu install over to the new dirve?
[11:22] <ruzgar> bbrazil i have removed them in snyaptic with "compltely remove" option is that works too?
[11:23] <bbrazil> ruzgar: I don't know to be honest, but it sounds right
[11:23] <paradizelost> i have seen some places that use that as their "network" address, they just don't set up a  dhcp server...
[11:23] <paradizelost> tatters: its called APIPA
[11:23] <paradizelost> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/APIPA.html
[11:24] <linuxamoeba21> nouse, i have ubuntu, and want to install osx86 for dual boot... i was going to get a second physical drive for ease, but wasn't sure how ubuntu would handle it bootloader-wise
[11:24] <ruzgar> i cant remove phpmyadmin package
[11:24] <ruzgar> that gives error 127
[11:24] <paradizelost> linuxamoeba21: are you trying to load OSX on a PC other than a mac?
[11:25] <NoUse> linuxamoeba21 if the drive its on now remains the primary drive it should be fine
[11:25] <NoUse> linuxamoeba21 otherwise, you might need to run a grub recovery
[11:25] <panzer> Hey! i'm new with Ubuntu! could someone plz help me?
[11:25] <bbrazil> ruzgar: hmm, I'm going to guess that apache was removed before it?
[11:25] <sparkling> hi all
[11:25] <paradizelost> !ask
[11:25] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[11:25] <linuxamoeba21> paradizelost, yeah its osx86... i have it running in vmware but native-ness would be nicer
[11:25] <sparkling> how i can add to my desktop a new hard drive icon?
[11:25] <linuxamoeba21> nouse, yeah i was planning to keep the ubuntu drive primary
[11:26] <ruzgar> bbrazil all of them removed but i cant remove phpmyadmin packages
[11:26] <paradizelost> sparkling: the easy way is to mount the hard drive to a folder in /media
[11:26] <ruzgar> for that reason i cant update my ubuntu
[11:26] <panzer> How to install a program?:P
[11:26] <NoUse> linuxamoeba21 the trick will be when you install OSX86, it will probably try to overrite the mbr
[11:26] <bbrazil> ruzgar: hmm, try it from the command line
[11:26] <NoUse> linuxamoeba21 not sure what to tell you there
[11:26] <sparkling> paradizelost i've mounted it..and i've set in fstab the automount at boot
[11:26] <panzer> How to install a program?:P
[11:26] <sparkling> but i want also the icon on the desk
[11:26] <Jowi> panzer: the easiest way it to use the synaptic package manater
[11:26] <paradizelost> sparkling: but did you mount it in /media/?
[11:27] <sparkling> yes
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell panzer -about synaptic
[11:27] <linuxamoeba21> nouse, if i unplug the ubuntu drive, install osx on the new drive, then plug them both in, do you think grub/ubuntu will make it work?
[11:27] <paradizelost> sparkling: when it mounts, it should autmatically make the icon
[11:27] <NoUse> linuxamoeba21 grub won't automatically detect it, you'll have to manually at it to your grub menu
[11:27] <paradizelost> sparkling: what filesystem?
[11:27] <NoUse> linuxamoeba21 but ubuntu should boot ok
[11:27] <linuxamoeba21> nouse, as long as it doesn't eat grub, i'm cool
[11:28] <sparkling> ntfs
[11:28] <ruzgar> bbrazil that give error "invalid operation phpmyadmin" what should be the right command ?
[11:28] <paradizelost> sparkling: you need to make sure you added the user,umask=000 option to the fstab line
[11:28] <bbrazil> ruzgar: dpkg -P phpmyadmin
[11:28] <paradizelost> can you paste the line in fstab for the drive?
[11:28] <ruzgar> bbrazil same error
[11:29] <ruzgar> i cant find any document about error 127 on wiki
[11:29] <bbrazil> ruzgar: anything more to the error?
[11:29] <sparkling> ok i check
[11:29] <|Sivik|> installing the 3d acc drivers for nvidia is a breeze
[11:29] <bbrazil> ruzgar: it's probably the postremove script
[11:29] <paradizelost> |Sivik|: you use easyubuntu?
[11:29] <paradizelost> or the .sh from their site?
[11:29] <|Sivik|> paradizelost, do what?
[11:29] <|Sivik|> paradizelost, what is easyubuntu?
[11:30] <ruzgar> bbrazil that gives "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127
[11:30] <ruzgar> "
[11:30] <paradizelost> !tell |Sivik| about easyubuntu
[11:30] <|Sivik|> paradizelost, no, i used the howto
[11:30] <sparkling> yes paradizelost wait
[11:31] <paradizelost> ruzgar: did you try a dpkg --configure -a
[11:31] <paradizelost> ?
[11:31] <paradizelost> http://hardware.mcse.ms/message296760.html
[11:31] <|Sivik|> paradizelost, what is that command to upgrade to dapper
[11:31] <paradizelost> similar issue
[11:31] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[11:31] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[11:31] <Old> How do i do a ftp account that only has access to /home/cz/ ?
[11:31] <Old> im using proftpd
[11:31] <bbrazil> Old: there should be a chroot option
[11:31] <ruzgar> paradizelost i dont understand
[11:31] <paradizelost> Old: you have a user who's home is /home/cz and give them ftp access
[11:32] <ruzgar> should i try it with phpmyadmin
[11:32] <Jowi> Old: if you use my config file, it is already set up.
[11:32] <Old> paradizelost, could you help me out? Im not the best with ubuntu tbh
[11:32] <Old> It is Jowi ?
[11:32] <paradizelost> ruzgar: open a terminal and type       sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:32] <sparkling> paradizelost http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13879
[11:32] <Old> If so, how do i make a user account that's named "old" - that only has access to /home/cz ?
[11:32] <Jowi> Old: yeah, at the end of the config "DefaultRoot ~"
[11:32] <sparkling> sda1 is the problem
[11:32] <Rennen> so, how do I install mplayer with win32 codec support? :)
[11:32] <paradizelost> sparkling: look at the mount location.
[11:33] <ruzgar> paradizelost yes i typed
[11:33] <myren> E: Error occurred while processing language-pack-kde-ms (NewVersion1)
[11:33] <myren> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages
[11:33] <paradizelost> you need to mount it in media
[11:33] <paradizelost>  /media
[11:33] <paradizelost> not /mnt
[11:33] <Old> Jowi, what's the username/password for that account?
[11:33] <ruzgar> paradizelost but that phmyadmin gives error
[11:33] <sparkling> ok only this?
[11:33] <paradizelost> ruzgar: you using breezy?
[11:33] <ruzgar> yes
[11:33] <paradizelost> sparkling: yes, change /mnt/sata100 to /media/sata100
[11:33] <Rennen> so, how do I install mplayer with win32 codec support? :)
[11:33] <paradizelost> !win32codecs
[11:33] <ubotu> methinks win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:33] <Jowi> Old: ah, the DefaultRoot command work like this: you create a user that can use your ftp server. he logs in to your server and can only use his own /home/username directory.
[11:34] <Old> is there a way to change "username" to a folder perhaps ?
[11:34] <_extricate_> !grep
[11:34] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _extricate_
[11:34] <paradizelost> Old: the username would be cz in this case
[11:34] <|Sivik|> that gksudo command doesn't seem to work, when i run it, it can't find certain repos
[11:34] <Old> or nevermind, i'll call it cz then. how do i create a user so he only has /home/cz as defaultroot and cant move more then that map ?
[11:35] <ruzgar> paradizelost i try to restart my comp. and try again
[11:35] <paradizelost> Old: i believe that is default configuration IIRC
[11:35] <myren> Whats up with ubuntus repository?
[11:35] <myren> i run debian
[11:35] <paradizelost> !repository
[11:35] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[11:35] <paradizelost> !repositories
[11:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:35] <myren>  and have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main universe restricted multiverse
[11:36] <Jowi> Old: "sudo adduser cz"
[11:36] <|Sivik|> paradizelost, i know how to do that
[11:36] <Jowi> paradizelost: nope, it is not default. need to add "DefaultRoot ~" to proftpd.conf
[11:36] <myren> for some reason though, ubuntu gives me insane errors when i apt-get the repos set
[11:36] <myren> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[11:36] <myren> E: Error occurred while processing language-pack-kde-ms (NewVersion1)
[11:36] <myren> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages
[11:36] <Old> then Jowi ?
[11:36] <amphi> myren: ask the #debian bot about mmap or dynamic mmap, and it'll tell you the fix
[11:37] <Seveas> myren, add more memory or reduce your sources.list
[11:37] <bbrazil> myren: /msg dpkg mmap
[11:37] <Jowi> Old: that's it. you created a user called "cz". he can log in to your ftp server using the username "cz" and the password you set up with "adduser"
[11:37] <_JECKEL_> hello
[11:37] <meHere> hey guys anyone can help me run QT designer?
[11:38] <_JECKEL_> I have two questions...one..how do I add a launcher to the applications menu in gnome..and two..can I get borderless windows?
[11:38] <Old> and i have to edit the ftp config to defaultroot: /home/cz ?
[11:38] <Jowi> Old: nope "DefaultRoot ~" is enough
[11:38] <_JECKEL_> hmm..maybe application's menu editor?
[11:39] <paradizelost> _JECKEL_: yes
[11:39] <thoreauputic_> _JECKEL_: one - use the menu editor two - yes, install alltray and read the man page
[11:39] <Old> ok Jowi
[11:39] <Old> cheers mate
[11:39] <Jowi> np Old
[11:39] <|Sivik|> !upgrade
[11:39] <paradizelost> sparkling: that work for ay?
[11:39] <paradizelost> ya?
[11:40] <sparkling> i'm rebooting
[11:40] <paradizelost> sparkling: shouldn't need to reboot for taht
[11:40] <paradizelost> that
[11:40] <_JECKEL_> alltray?
[11:40] <paradizelost> just sudo umount /mnt/sata100 && sudo mount -a
[11:40] <_JECKEL_> well..I just wanna know if I can keep it in gnome
[11:40] <Old> Jowi, looks like the ftp server aint up, how do i start it?
[11:41] <_JECKEL_> because I want my terminal to look like part of the screen and not a window
[11:41] <paradizelost> Old: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[11:41] <thoreauputic_> _JECKEL_: yes - install alltray
[11:41] <Jowi> Old: as paradizelost said :)
[11:41] <_JECKEL_> ok..I can get that from apt-get?
[11:41] <Old> kk, will look
[11:41] <Old> can you copy /past it? cant seem to find it :(
[11:41] <thoreauputic_> _JECKEL_: not sure - I think you might need to google it
[11:41] <Old> got it
[11:41] <mlalkaka> does gwget (the download manager for gnome) speed up downloads?
[11:41] <thoreauputic_> !info alltray
[11:41] <Old> root@server:~# sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[11:41] <Old> Starting ProFTPD ftp daemon:  - no such group 'ftp'
[11:41] <Old>  - Fatal: Group: Unknown group 'ftp'. on line 48 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'
[11:41] <|Sivik|> thats offically the first time i have ever been told in ubuntu to reboot to finish the uprade
[11:42] <thoreauputic_> nope, no alltray in apt
[11:42] <paradizelost> Old: addgroup ftp
[11:42] <paradizelost> sudo addgroup ftp
[11:42] <Old> ok, done
[11:42] <panzer> Someone plz telle me how to install java:D:P
[11:42] <panzer>  pm
[11:42] <Old> works fine
[11:42] <Seveas> !java
[11:42] <paradizelost> !java
[11:42] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:43] <sparkling> paradizelost ok all done thanks too much :D
[11:43] <paradizelost> np
[11:43] <Old> Jowi, i cant seem to enter/edit any files as the CZ user?
[11:43] <paradizelost> Old: did you give cz rights to the /home/cz folder?
[11:43] <Jowi> Old: like the files that is in the /home/cz directory?
[11:44] <paradizelost> chown cz: /home/cz -Rf
[11:44] <Old> exactly, but i didnt give it any rights, how do i do this ?
[11:44] <Old> thanks
[11:44] <Old> I thank you
[11:44] <thoreauputic_> *sigh* why do people always leave sudenly? You find an answer and they're gone...
[11:44] <thoreauputic_> *suddenly
[11:44] <thoreauputic_> hi bimberi :)
[11:44] <paradizelost> !windows
[11:44] <ubotu> For help with microsoft windows, please visit ##windows
[11:45] <bimberi> morning thoreauputic_ :)
[11:45] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[11:45] <thoreauputic_> bimberi: I now have adsl2+ !
[11:45] <_JECKEL_> alltray only seems to work with the bar thing
[11:45] <panzer> !javadebs
[11:45] <bimberi> yay - just in time
[11:46] <thoreauputic_> _JECKEL_: you need to look at the options
[11:46] <thoreauputic_> _JECKEL_: there's a borderless option IIRC
[11:46] <sparkling> paradizelost: if i copy files from a ntfs partition he set folder as read only..is it possible to automatic convert all files i copy in read/write after copying?
[11:46] <bimberi> thoreauputic_: i guess you're dapper-ing by now then
[11:47] <paradizelost> !chmod
[11:47] <ubotu> methinks chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[11:47] <thoreauputic_> bimberi: not yet - but soon, yes :)
[11:47] <sparkling> paradizelost: ok but i need to open terminal and use chmod command...is it possible to automatize that all times i copy something?
[11:47] <sparkling> !chmod
[11:47] <ubotu> it has been said that chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[11:48] <paradizelost> sparkling: i never copy in GUI.
[11:48] <paradizelost> so i don't know
[11:48] <sparkling> oh ok well thanks
[11:49] <thoreauputic_> bimberi: since it only takes about 20 minutes to download a gig, I'm being careful with it - too tempting to download everything and exceed my limits ;)
[11:49] <paradizelost> thoreauputic_: they limit your downloads?
[11:49] <Jowi> sparkling: if you're copying in the terminal, use "cp -c ......." (cp --help for more options)
[11:49] <thoreauputic_> paradizelost: sadly yes
[11:49] <paradizelost> thoreauputic_: i've downloaded LOTS of stuff, as in about 40-50GB/mo from my box...
[11:50] <sparkling> mmm another question...if i copy a dir with subdirs can i change permissions with chmod to all files, subdirs and sub files with 1 command? without go in every subdir?
[11:50] <thoreauputic_> paradizelost: but it's enough for me - about 21 G / month
[11:50] <thoreauputic_> paradizelost: I'll need a new HDD ;)
[11:50] <paradizelost> sparkling: that's what the -Rf of the chmod command is for
[11:51] <paradizelost> R is recurse and f is force
[11:51] <paradizelost> !cp
[11:51] <ubotu> paradizelost: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:51] <sparkling> ok thanks :D i've tried with only -R but didn't work
[11:51] <bimberi> thoreauputic_: ha! you've leapfrogged me - i'm on 5Gb/moth (with ulimited offpeak 00:00-07:00)
[11:51] <|Sivik|> FF keeps dieing on me
[11:52] <|Sivik|> nvm
[11:52] <|Sivik|> probably cuase i'm upgrding the system
[11:52] <thoreauputic_> bimberi: I have 7 G peak, 14 off peak - but off-peak is midnight to noon ( odd idea from Optus)
[11:54] <paradizelost> !cp
[11:54] <thoreauputic_> bimberi: unlimited off-peak would be nice...
[11:54] <cjp> hello
[11:55] <cjp> anyone here?
[11:55] <paradizelost> cjp: nope.
[11:55] <paradizelost> !ask
[11:55] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[11:55] <thoreauputic_> cjp: no, you'rw all alone
[11:55] <thoreauputic_> :)
[11:55] <bimberi> cjp: Boo! :)
[11:55] <cjp> :)
[11:56] <paradizelost> *
[11:56] <paradizelost> ***
[11:56] <paradizelost> bah
[11:56] <paradizelost> paradizelost: wishes he had more beer.
[11:56] <paradizelost> bah
[11:56] <cjp> .....
[11:56] <paradizelost> thoreauputic_: how the heck do ya do the *** thing?
[11:57] <thoreauputic_> paradizelost:   /me does something
[11:57] <paradizelost> ahhh..
[11:57] <cjp> I just installed ubuntu
[11:57] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[11:57] <_JECKEL_> that is very odd
[11:57] <thoreauputic_> cjp: welcome !
[11:57] <_JECKEL_> I can't get alltray -x to work
[11:57] <cjp> :D
[11:57] <paradizelost> cjp: my first recommendation for you.
[11:57] <paradizelost> !google
[11:57] <_JECKEL_> keeps telling me segmentation fault whenever I try to use alltray in a terminal window
[11:57] <ubotu> it has been said that google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[11:57] <paradizelost> :D
[11:58] <thoreauputic_> _JECKEL_: install fluxbox and you can just make a key combo for borderless :)
[11:58] <_JECKEL_> I have fluxbox
[11:58] <majd> !network
[11:58] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[11:58] <sparkling> good night all cya and thanks for help
[11:58] <_JECKEL_> what I don't like about fluxbox is all the shit I have to go through just to set it up the way I want
[11:58] <paradizelost> sparkling: nite
[11:58] <thoreauputic_> _JECKEL_: well, set your keys file
[11:58] <thoreauputic_> _JECKEL_: hmm - not a lot really
[11:58] <_JECKEL_> I'm trying to do this without using fluxbox. @.@
[11:59] <_JECKEL_> yes..really. Besides...I really get tired of not having icons to use
[11:59] <paradizelost> _JECKEL_: use bbicons
[11:59] <paradizelost> :D
[11:59] <paradizelost> _JECKEL_: may need blackbox for that though
[11:59] <thoreauputic_> _JECKEL_: ah - we differ: I don't like icons ;-)