=== saugilsr_ [n=sreiach@24.244.159.106] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [12:14] ping JaneW [12:15] cbx33, dont you think JaneW isnt here at this moment? [12:15] not all are awake for 25 hours [12:20] pygi, cbx33 it is also midnight on a friday night is ZA === saugilsr [n=sreiach@24.231.48.80] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 has tired eyes === cbx33 has forgotten all concept of time [12:25] I'm still waiting for my server to be booted so i can get my mail [12:25] a couple of my students are like that, too, having scrambled at the last minute to complete their theses [12:25] poor things. === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-202-116.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [12:35] crimsun, when i did mine it was all done in plenty of time :D [12:36] cbx33: yes, if only everyone were as diligent [12:37] hah [12:37] :p [12:37] how arey ou [12:39] not bad, tired, busy, etc. Yourself? [12:42] much the same :p === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === cmc3scrmn [n=cmc3scrm@74.128.207.114] has joined #edubuntu === cmc3scrmn [n=cmc3scrm@74.128.207.114] has left #edubuntu [] === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-123-16.tpgi.com.au] has left #edubuntu [] [03:46] Anyone about? I could use an opinion regarding my "installation" chapter: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/StandAloneInstallation [03:47] I am considering splitting off "What Now?" into its own chapter when it's finished. === crimsun looks [03:53] are you soliciting layout comments or content? [03:53] It's quite long, and the screen shots aren't in yet [03:53] content. layout isn't done [03:53] content is almost done [03:53] still tweaking, catching typos [03:54] k. In the installing section, I would say "type of computer (architecture)" === HedgeMage nods [03:55] I know some of the step titles seem odd, but I made a point to use the title at the top of the installer screen during each step to cut down on confusion [03:55] Pres -> Press and hold ... [03:56] Pressing the botton(s) when asked will give (removing 'for') === HedgeMage nods [03:59] In the select keyboard section, "If it is correct, just press Enter" is probably more persuasive [03:59] good catches, thanks! [03:59] In Configuring the network, "end of the install" [04:01] In set up users.., I would double-quote "sudo" just so the distinction is more apparent [04:03] In What Now?, "update when Edubuntu reminds you to" (removing 'daily', since it's probably a bit more detail than necessary) [04:03] otherwise, looks good, flows well === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.121.86.20] has joined #edubuntu === aights [i=HydraIRC@c211-28-94-128.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [05:40] hi guys! [05:40] hi jsgotangco [05:41] HedgeMage: good morning [05:42] night here, but good all the same :D === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Game_Bot [n=foxhound@unaffiliated/hierophant] has joined #edubuntu === Game_Bot [n=foxhound@unaffiliated/hierophant] has left #edubuntu [] === hierophant [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/hierophant] has joined #edubuntu [06:57] hi hierophant :D [06:57] hiya [06:57] Anybody else awake in here, or is it just us? [06:58] hierophant: I thought you might like to help proof the documentation I'm working on for the standalone Edubuntu installation. [06:58] Try it and tell me where my instructions need improvement [06:58] ok [06:59] Let me grab you a link [06:59] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/StandAloneInstallation [06:59] That's the draft I'm working on [06:59] I still need to add screenshots and finish the "What Now?" section at the end. [07:00] but, other than formatting and "what now?" it's done [07:00] I think [07:00] let me know what YOU think :) [07:00] It would be a *huge* help. [07:01] Umm my computer to boot from the disk you press f11 [07:01] BTW, welcome to Edubuntu :D [07:01] ty [07:03] HedgeMage: I'm awake :-) [07:03] LaserJock: hey there [07:03] hierophant is new to Linux but he's going to help us out with some of the edubuntu cookbook stuff :) [07:04] checking and proofing and stuff [07:04] and making sure I didn't randomly assume somewhere that the user knows where their Xorg config is or how to use CLI emacs or something crazy like that. [07:05] hehe, that is always go to do [07:05] cbx33 did that for the Ubuntu Packaging Guide for me [07:05] hedgemage what if im using a home network that uses 192.168.0.1 do i type that in for my net config [07:05] or is that in another step [07:07] hierophant: You *probably* have DHCP so it'll do it for you automagically [07:08] the other stuff is just in case of emergencies :) [07:08] but it didnt do it automatically when i tried breezy [07:08] regular ubuntu [07:09] so what do i do with the 192.168.0.1 [07:09] well, then why not look in your current windows config before you re-format and write down the settings? [07:10] if it dies trying to auto-config, you will need: your IP, the gateway, the netmask, and a nameserver [07:10] where do i find those settings? [07:11] umm... under networking in the control panel, then right-click the connection and pick properties I think === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === MeerKatje [n=meerkat@dsl-165-22-15.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:55] hi highvoltage and MeerKatje [08:55] hi Laserock :) [08:55] Jock even, hehe [08:56] heh, I rock too ;-) [08:56] yeah ... LaserRock, I know [08:56] :P [08:57] hmm, I think I like LaserJock better [08:57] Rock sounds slow, and thick headed :-) [08:57] :) true... [08:58] Are you also in SA LaserJock? [08:58] no, I'm in Nevada, USA [08:59] kind of the opposite side of the world [08:59] ahhh...I visited Chicago about ten years ago...it had a massive blizzard at the time (if that was what it was called) [08:59] we could not land for almost 30 min [08:59] quite scary :) [08:59] sounds typical [09:00] Chicago gets lots of wind and snow [09:00] was my first white Christmas [09:00] amazing time [09:00] lol [09:00] I grew up in Montana, which borders Canada. I grew up with long winters. I moved south to try to warm up [09:00] I've never seen a Christmas that wasn't white [09:00] Did it work? [09:01] hehe [09:01] it is a bit warmer here, but still plenty of snow in the winter [09:01] you've not moved close enough to the equator, then [09:01] ohhh, you should come and have a Christmas at the beach in SA! [09:01] I'm not sure if I could handle that [09:01] granted I spent some time in Madison, WI and Rochester, MN, so I know white winters [09:02] crimsun: UW and Oakland? [09:02] you will love it, I am sure... we even have Santa in shorts [09:02] lol [09:03] LaserJock: UW and IBM [09:03] crimsun: ah [09:05] lol [09:11] so where do I start if I want to contribute to the development of ubuntu in a smalllll way? [09:12] MeerKatje: testing and bug reporting is always great [09:13] ok, so I download edubuntu? [09:13] that would be a good start [09:13] also, see the bottom section ("Contribute") of http://www.ubuntu.com/community [09:14] likewise, see the "Getting involved" section of http://www.edubuntu.com/community [09:14] there now ;) [09:14] thanks [09:16] MeerKatje: do you know what edubuntu iso to download? [09:18] lol [09:18] I was just returning here to check [09:19] I think I may seriously lack the skill to participate in this exercise [09:19] try http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dapper/ [09:19] maybe I should stck to community work [09:19] :) [09:19] if you're not sure, try the live cd version for your system type (architecture) [09:20] MeerKatje: don't worry, you have to start somewhere. :-) [09:21] I think I should keep a blog of this process... [09:21] could also be a nice history of my IT evolution [09:21] and education [09:21] sure [09:21] one thing that we always need is user feedback [09:22] i can be a user [09:22] sounds easy enuff [09:22] especially if we are heading in the linux direction with our projects [09:22] it would make sense that we have used it ;) [09:23] heh [09:23] so I get DapperDrake? === jinty [n=jinty@212.Red-83-54-75.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:24] welcome jinty [09:24] think I am going to install it on a separate desktop though === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [09:26] MeerKatje: yes, dapper is what you want. If you want to just play around you can use the LiveCD [09:26] MeerKatje: or Desktop CD, it might be called now. [09:26] MeerKatje: that will run in RAM and won't touch your hard drive until you tell it to :-) [09:29] it is a massive file :) downloading [09:29] you have been very helpful [09:29] once I have it, I will see what it does [09:29] lol [09:30] MeerKatje: have you used Linux before [09:32] just OpenOffice [09:32] does that count? [09:33] *blush* === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-196-44.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [09:35] MeerKatje: kind of, it will at least be familiar ;-) [09:35] MeerKatje: do you know how to burn a .iso image to a CD ? [09:36] hehe [09:37] I believe it cannot be too difficult. [09:37] like music...rip it? [09:37] or save it? [09:37] or follow instructions on the screen...lol [09:37] it is actually a bit different. do you have Nero? [09:38] no [09:38] should get it? [09:38] MeerKatje, do you have Gnomebaker? [09:39] Its quite easy :) [09:39] pygi: Gnomebacker for Windows? [09:39] Gnomebaker, I mean [09:39] LaserJock, argh :P === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [09:40] hi cbx33 [09:40] MeerKatje: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto has info on how to burn the .iso file you are downloading [09:41] hi cbx33 [09:41] so, Nero or Gnomemaker? [09:41] yes, I saw it there LaserJock [09:41] MeerKatje, there is no gnomebaker on windows [09:41] Nero isn't free I don't think and Gnomebaker is on Linux [09:41] lol GnomeBaker [09:42] LaserJock, there are free burnin apps on Win [09:42] or dear my typos [09:42] MeerKatje: I use the app that is on that wiki page and it works well [09:42] ok, will try that [09:42] ok, I'm off to bed 12:42 am here [09:42] good luck MeerKatje [09:42] thank you so much for your help LaserJock [09:42] will do some homework [09:42] LaserJock: sleep is for the weak! [09:43] jsgotangco: or the smart, or the people who have inlaws in for a visit ;-) [09:43] lol [09:44] hi pygi LaserJock jsgotangco [09:44] hi === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [09:44] anyone know of a DVD authoring pacage for linux [09:45] finally it's alive in here [09:45] hey, hierophant, come here and get introduced. [09:45] hi im hierophant [09:45] =) [09:46] hierophant is a new user interested in Edubuntu... he's going to help test my install doc :) [09:47] nice one hierophant [09:47] =) [09:49] BTW, can you folks please look at [09:49] grr [09:49] darn paste is messed up, hold on [09:49] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/StandAloneInstallation [09:49] there we go [09:49] the install part is done (just needs formatting and screen shots) [09:50] I started adding a "what now?" section at the bottom for post-install / getting to know your system stuff [09:50] however, I think it's going to get long and I want all of your opinions on splitting it off into its own chapter [09:50] hedgemage [09:50] would you like screen shots when i do install? [09:51] hierophant: unless you know how to set up a virtual machine, you can't effectively screen capture during the install [09:51] hierophant: one of the other documentation volunteers has some I'm going to borrow [09:51] oh ok === HedgeMage doesn't have the time to set up a VM, especially considering her modest amounts of RAM [09:51] i was just gonna use my camera =p [09:52] HedgeMage: in "You are now ready to install..", it should be "Your computer will load some tools it needs" instead of "Your computter .." [09:52] HedgeMage, heheh [09:52] crimsun: thanks [09:53] Laser_away: or cbx33 or someone caught about five typos earlier, I have 'em marked off on my paper copy but haven't fixed 'em yet [09:53] HedgeMage: and I do agree with the idea that What Now would be better as a separate page [09:53] I am frantically cleaning because I just found out hubby's boss is coming over at 2 or 3 am to drop some stuff off [09:53] bbl [09:53] one thing we've learned as wiki documenters is that shorter pages are better [09:54] HedgeMage, wans't me but I will check it later fo you :p [09:54] cbx33: cool, thanks [09:54] crimsun: that's what I was thinking, just wanted other eyes on it :D [09:55] note: most of this was written in pre-dawn hours so I am afraid of having missed tons of typos... proofreading will be met with much gratitude :D [09:58] I still can't believe the section on booting a CD is so long, but I kept picturing frustrated users giving up because they don't know how to boot a CD === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu [10:01] oops [10:01] no one saw that :P [10:02] HedgeMage, :P [10:02] hi pygi ! [10:02] Practiced guitar today [10:02] :D [10:02] nice :) === HedgeMage is determined to get back into the swing of things while hubby's gone [10:02] wheres your hubby [10:03] He's on an exercise with his unit (he is in the US Army) [10:03] He'll be back in a little over a week [10:03] I hate when he's gone a long time, but a week now and again is nice... I get caught up on tons of stuff [10:03] :D [10:07] and he's less stressed when he's been in the field (he has a different boss in the field than in garrison, and the garrison one is a PITA) [10:08] Whats with all the abbreviations [10:10] which ones? [10:10] feel free to ask, I'm a lazy typist and use shortcuts without noticing [10:14] hedgemage are you getting my pms or not? [10:14] yep I just stopped to clean some more [10:14] told you I'd be in and out :) [10:28] HedgeMage, what guitar do you have? [10:28] cbx33, classical one [10:28] no, not classical [10:28] acoustic but not nylon stringed [10:28] ugh? you told that one :P [10:29] don't think so [10:29] trelane's the one with acoustical [10:29] with classical [10:29] sheesh my brain is melting === froud [n=froud@dsl-145-53-16.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === froud [n=froud@dsl-145-53-16.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] [10:35] hehe [10:35] i love my Aria AW-50 [10:41] what's that [10:41] ? [10:50] guitar === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [10:56] :) cool [10:56] probably way out of my price range, though [11:00] cost me 90 [11:00] i think [11:01] yep, about double my price range [11:01] I bought mine for $70 with a book I don't like very much [11:01] books for playing guitar are bad :P [11:01] argh, my guitar costs much more :-/ [11:01] can't afford lessons right now [11:01] hehe [11:01] I just wanted something fun to do with TT that is more portable than piano [11:01] :P [11:02] you don;t need lessons [11:02] :p [11:02] cbx33, indeed :) [11:02] What I need is two lessons to help with my fingering issues. Then I'm golden [11:02] HedgeMage, I've never had lessons, it's just practice [11:02] I have a long and serious musical background, so it's only finger position / muscle memory I'm having trouble with [11:02] I can name chords, transpose, read music, etc as second nature [11:04] nice :p [11:05] yep [11:05] took college-level music theory in high school [11:05] (was in a choir, an ensemble, and taking private lessons as well) [11:08] anyone know of a nice VPS hosting solution [11:08] cbx33: hosteurope.de [11:09] cbx33: I have shared hosting, but they're very good and pretty cheap :) [11:09] cbx33: 10000gb, unlimited transfer, 10EUR/month, 128mb ram [11:09] VPS is outside my budget. [11:09] cbx33: but I have shared hosting as well [11:09] cbx33: -> www.wservices.ch [11:09] lucasvo, how is their tech support [11:09] full functional linux [11:09] i need a server with root access and cpanel [11:09] I am chatting gon their server [11:10] oh, they can't give you that [11:10] in that case I would go to hosteurope.de === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-123-16.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [11:29] hey Yagisan [11:30] G'day cbx33 [11:32] how are you today cbx33 ? === Yagisan is still hunting his heisenbugs [11:33] yeh I'm good [11:33] looking for better hosting at the mo [11:33] took 15 hours for them to restart mine [11:33] know of any good vps's with root access and cpanel [11:33] cbx33: ouch. no - that's why mine is selfhosted :( [11:33] heh [11:34] cbx33: so plone hosting is a no-go ? [11:34] well not at the mo, we're all used to cpanel here [11:35] :p [11:35] cbx33: let me see if my host offers VPS === Bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu [11:35] thanks HedgeMage [11:35] are you dedicated? [11:35] mornin andrea [11:35] I didn't ask since someone bought me my shared hosting account and I'm pretty happy [11:35] I have about $60 a month maximum [11:35] nope, shared... dedicated is way too much money [11:35] I have like $10/month max :P [11:35] vps is a nice half way house === HedgeMage peeks [11:35] well i run a web design business with my wife === HedgeMage nods [11:35] hi pygi :) [11:35] hi andrea [11:36] hi cbx33 :) [11:36] hi hedgemage [11:36] how are you all? [11:36] G'dall All that I've yet to mention [11:36] great, thanks for asking :) [11:36] and you? [11:36] eh [11:36] G'day All === Yagisan thinks his typing sucks [11:37] well i come out from the bed right now [11:37] ^^ [11:37] hi Bluekuja [11:37] I'm good [11:37] i went to sleep really late [11:37] HedgeMage, what company are they that you use? [11:38] cbx33: there's a waiting list for VPS hosting right now (don't know how long, I could email them and ask) [11:38] dreamhost.com [11:39] ahh ok [11:39] np [11:39] i need one soon [11:39] if you sign up let me know and I'll make you a promo code for a discount... but as I said there's a waiting list for VPS, they're referring VPS servers to hosting.com until the waiting list is sorted. === HedgeMage nods === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-175-6.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-175-6.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 has found hosting :D [12:52] think I'm going with liquidweb :D [12:52] they seem good and are on cpanel's website as a reseller :D [12:52] all reviews seem good [12:53] what's up [12:53] fed up with hosting after it took 22 hours to get my server rebooted [12:54] and it was down for all of that time [12:54] thanks for the post btw [12:54] as my email has been out, any replies? [12:56] dunno haven't checked my email yet [12:58] hehe [01:02] cbx33: what is cpanel? [01:02] something like confix? [01:02] i would think so [01:04] its supposed to give you control of your webspace/server from the browser [01:04] yes [01:04] like create email, dns, new mysql db, etc. [01:04] which it does very nicely [01:04] yes [01:07] jsgotangco: and it's free? [01:07] is there a demo? [01:07] no its proprietary [01:08] no you have to apy for it [01:08] but it is damn good [01:08] too bad webmin isn't a good alternative [01:09] yeh [01:09] it's crap :( [01:09] there are so many free ones I'vel ooked at [01:09] vhcs [01:09] but they all sux [01:09] I like plesk === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-196-44.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [01:39] hey highvoltage [01:39] I'm starting on the wiki front page [01:40] mockup [01:40] cbx33: excellent, i'll be mostly away for the next few days, flying to jo'burg tomorrow for linuxworld [01:41] ahhh excellent [01:41] let me know how it goes [01:42] highvoltage, I've been taking some of the wording for the front page from the ESA [01:42] I was wondering a few things though [01:43] do you think we can get someone to do meeting notes again [01:43] I think that would be really useful [01:43] should we move planning to a seperate page? [01:44] hmmm... i thought JaneW does meeting notes? [01:44] perhaps not anymore [01:46] no, it seems to ahve stopped, I know she's super busy [01:47] but if I were to miss a meeting I'd like to go check out a quick overview === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [01:47] i mean our meetings are not that complicated :D - and were all pretty agreeable [01:48] hi spacey [01:52] highvoltage, what about the plannin side of things, I don;t personally think we should clutter the homepage with that [01:54] cbx33: yep, i agree with you there [01:54] there used to be a meetings wiki page [01:54] perhaps we can just keep it there [01:55] and have a link to the meetings page on the community page [01:56] hey highvoltage [01:56] hey jsgotangco [01:56] how's things? [01:57] hectic, but in a good way :) [01:57] good to hear [01:57] are you going to paris? [01:57] lots of things happening, i can't keep up but i'm not complaining, i prefer it this way than thing being too quiet. [01:57] i applied for sponsorship, i guess we'll have to see what happens. [01:58] same here although i am not optimistic [01:58] i tend to be optimistic, but i'm fine if i can't go either. [01:59] yep [02:00] jsgotangco: you have anything ubuntu'ish planned short-term? [02:01] what do you mean? I have an article coming out on free software magazine by the next issue (probably june) on gnupg and thunderbird [02:01] at the moment, i am writing about package management systems but for a local magazine === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:02] im supposed to go to a conference down south here on june as well they invited me to do a tlalk [02:02] (a linuxworld event as well) [02:03] it is pretty amazing i still manage to have a day job that is completely not foss related [02:04] sorry, that was a bit vague. i meant in terms of other open-source events / and genereal stuff. so your answer is in line with my question :) [02:04] even if i dont get sponsored, i still get to be on a plane in june and paid by another ogranizer lol [02:19] hehe [02:19] ok highvoltage will do === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-246-137.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === alfredn [n=alfred@c-71-192-4-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:29] hi ogra [03:30] Hello, My screen refresh seems a bit slow should I enable something in the lts.conf? Thanks [03:33] alfredn, just in general, or when you are running a particular application? [03:33] in general just started using the client been using [03:33] the server and it was quick. The client [03:33] has a decent card too. [03:34] what's the network connection like between the two [03:34] The speed is 100 and I used this same physical setup for another LTSP install using Fedora it seemed okay then but maybe that is it [03:35] could it be glx [03:47] It reminds me of running vnc over an okay not great connection. Should I add something to the lts.conf [04:07] hmmm [04:07] not sure [04:07] ask ogra if he is around, my setups have all been ok [04:10] thanks cbx33 no rush on my end. I do hope to set this up at a library near by so far K12ltsp has done them well on Fedora but want to get ubuntu in there [04:10] argh, I forgot my GPG key :-/ === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-202-116.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [04:27] yeh, ubuntu is way better IMHO === B4zzA2 [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-175-6.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA3 [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-175-6.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [05:19] alfredn, you can try adding things like X_HORZSYNC and X_VERTREFRESH and also check that the client is not using the vesa driver [05:20] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLtsConfParams has a list with possible values for breezy, dapper has more features that are not all documented yet [05:20] I will check but [05:20] now that there is no ltsinfo --cfg=ALL -h wsXXX how do I check [05:20] i.e. if you use dapper i'd use X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 that speeds up a lot [05:21] easiest is to temporary enable a root password in the client chroot and just locg in on console on the client [05:22] sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd [05:22] ^^^^^^^ enabels the root pw [05:22] sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd -l [05:22] ^^^^^^^ locks the root pw === highvoltage copies and pastes the last for lines for future documentation [05:33] Pretty neat what that can do. So it is not using vesa, it is not a great card but should do fine ATI Rage 128 AGP 8 megs ram [05:33] the machine it self is 233 PII with 64 megs of ram. === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [06:01] ogra, i never knew those pages were there [06:01] can't wait to get he ltsp wiki page done [06:01] will start that later I think [06:03] i wanted to work on a example lts.conf with all possible values in it and some explanatory text if i find time before release [06:03] thats better than a plain wikipage imho [06:03] (indeed we can have a wikipage additionally) [06:04] also the breezy versiomn of that page should persist, we should probably have breezy and dapper subpages under EdubuntuLtsConfParams [06:11] oh yeh, of course [06:11] I was talking about the ltsp homepage we discussed [06:11] ah [06:11] to bring all the documentation together [06:12] yep, it will also show the weaknesses where we should jump on with LTSPManager [06:12] indeed [06:12] LTSPManager is going to rock [06:12] i.e. upgrading the chroot should become easier [06:12] or setting a rootpw by gui [06:13] edgy is going to rock [06:14] cbx33, edgy is fun ;) [06:14] heheh === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.252.100] has joined #edubuntu [06:22] I am going to reboot and try the X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 be back soon, ps it was nice to see the updates to the edubuntu site [06:24] ogra: around ? [06:25] pygi, yes, but i wont do any work related stuff, its saturday [06:25] its not work related stuff, no worries :) [06:25] str: The signed text does not match the Code of Conduct. Make sure that you signed the correct text (white space differences are acceptable). [06:25] Launchpad isnt too well :P [06:26] did you ask #launchpad ? [06:26] and I am sure it should work :-/ [06:26] was going to... [06:26] i signed my CoC way before LP was online [06:27] oki, sorry for bothering :) [06:27] pygi, [06:27] that's a VERY well known bug [06:27] argh, and why is that happening? :-/ [06:28] i think i submitted the first since then I know there have been at least 4 duplicates [06:28] sign the old version [06:29] that one works [06:31] cbx33, thanks [06:31] ogra: there, I signed the CoC :P [06:31] cool :) === alfredn [n=alfred@c-71-192-4-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:32] altought I dont see the big deal with it, but heh :) [06:35] ogra, on the wiki homepage [06:35] what is the development status at the bottom supposed to show? [06:36] is it just historical now? [06:36] yep [06:36] so I can vamoosh it? [06:36] I want to replace it with something detailing the status and development....it's nice to show we are working on something :p [06:36] but I'll take it out for now [06:36] lets discuss it in the next meeting, probably people want to keep somewhere it for historical reasons [06:37] oh yeh [06:37] I'm just editing a mock page at the moment [06:37] I'm not deleting anything :p [06:37] we had company performance reviews last week [06:37] and i know mdz wants us to do something like a status newsletter [06:37] so we could merge that in there in the future [06:38] definitely [06:38] or better have a news subsection where they can reside on the drupal site [06:38] that could also link in with the meeting notes we were talking about earlier [06:38] I think that's a fantastic idea [06:38] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuWikiMock [06:38] i'm not really a fan of wikis if it comes to do more than documenting on them [06:39] that's it in progress [06:39] ogra, I agree [06:39] some sections hav not been worked yet at all [06:39] in MOTU we had pages for package transitions with 500 line tables ... imagine you need to edit that :) [06:39] but I've edited some with invisible tables to help the layout and spac a little [06:39] heh [06:39] s/line/row/ [06:40] sheesh [06:40] that gets really hard if you discover that firefox has no search option for text input fields [06:40] I presume this wiki page will take over once dapper is released [06:40] ogra, I feel your pain have done that before [06:40] and the whole table is in a big text input form field :) === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [06:41] copy paste to gedit, copy paste back :p [06:41] hi LaserJock [06:41] can i get your view on the few changes I've made to the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuWikiMock [06:43] hi cbx33 === pygi is writing a wiki [06:48] cbx33: looks nice [06:49] :) [06:50] although I notice that you tend to do some "Hopefully soon ..." we need to be more concrete [06:50] people don't often want to read what we hope to do but rather what we *are* doing ;-) [06:50] yes, shipit is definite [06:51] oooh nice :D [06:51] ok will do [06:51] css mockup -> http://shipit-edubuntu.async.com.br/ [06:58] ogra, argh, isnt that just too red? :-/ [06:59] can anything Edubuntu be too red? :-) [06:59] :-P [06:59] thin white text on dark red == oww, my eyes! [07:01] its based on our wiki theme we use since breezy [07:01] the wikitheme is good! [07:01] nobody ever complained about that one [07:02] ogra: i never saw it :P [07:03] wiki.edubuntu.org should show it out of the box, unless you set something different in your user settings === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-171-33.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu [07:10] sivang, poke :) [07:14] ogra, http://shipit-edubuntu.async.com.br/ doesn't seem to load in konqueror here [07:14] its only a first mockup [07:14] hehe :p [07:15] ok, just thought I'd mention it [07:15] dont expect it to be usable :) [07:15] oh what.... === cbx33 was gonna order his disks now :p [07:16] off to a barbeque now [07:16] see y'all later [07:31] bye === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@212.Red-83-54-75.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@89.172.193.44] has joined #edubuntu === bobulator [n=NRKbob@host-87-75-129-152.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:18] bye === bash [n=bash@pc-5-105-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:23] hmm http://live.gnome.org/EducationSuite seems nice [08:25] LaserJock, thats Burgundavia's work afaik [08:27] yeah, I see his hands were on it last ;-) [08:28] it's to bad we have to promote apps to main to get them on the CD [08:30] I think stellarium would be a nice apps to have for astronomy [08:30] its not only promotion [08:30] the CD size is the far worse problem [08:31] but perhaps getting rid of the KDE stuff would help [08:32] that is what I was thinking with stellarium [08:32] i never really measured how much dropping kde will actually gain us [08:33] the first edgy CDs will drop it to see the real gain ... [08:34] could germinate give a quick idea? [08:34] yep [08:34] LaserJock: the EducationSuite needs a coder and me, to do some advocacy [08:35] it would be nice to set down categories of software and then list all the apps we have for each category [08:36] I can think of several science apps that could be used for educational purposes === ogra wonders off for some saturday evening stuff === Thug-N-Me [n=thug@host-84-9-15-252.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #Edubuntu [08:41] whats Edubuntu ? [08:41] what desktop manager does Edubuntu use ? === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-253-106.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [08:43] Thug-N-Me: it is an Ubuntu derivative designed for educational settings (schools) and kids [08:43] ohh i see [08:44] Thug-N-Me: and it uses Gnome [08:44] is 5.10 dapper ? [08:44] nop. 6.06 is dapper [08:45] hmm and why in the main page when i click the download link it starts 5.10 ? [08:45] because dapper is not out yet? [08:46] hmm i heard it is [08:46] you heard wrong [08:46] there is only beta out [08:46] when it will be ? [08:47] June 1 [08:47] 1 day, next month [08:47] ok [08:47] thanks you guys [08:49] Thug-N-Me: no problem === Thug-N-Me [n=thug@host-84-9-15-252.bulldogdsl.com] has left #Edubuntu ["Leaving"] === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === bash_ [n=bash@pc-5-105-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.121.86.20] has joined #edubuntu === bash_ is now known as bashd === bashd is now known as bash === bash is now known as bashd === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-198-149.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === hierophant [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/hierophant] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja_ [n=andrea@host155-171.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #edubuntu [11:46] hey bluekuja_ [11:48] hey cbx33 === HedgeMage peeks in [11:50] What's up with Cookbook? It seems that only a couple of us have any chapters up... :( [11:50] HedgeMage, I havent seen no one uploading anything :( [11:52] :( === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [11:56] oi pete [11:56] :) === bluekuja_ is now known as Bluekuja [11:56] hey pygi Bluekuja HedgeMage [11:56] hi Bluekuja [11:56] HedgeMage, what chapters do you need [11:56] hi pygi [11:57] spacey, oke [11:57] poke* [11:57] cbx33: don't need any in particular, was just wondering about general progress. === Bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has left #edubuntu ["Sto] [11:57] if you're desperate I can see what I can throw together if you're tight on a deadline === Bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu [11:57] Actually, that's about what I was thinking... finishing out the last tidbits of my stuff today and then having a go at other chapters. [11:58] HedgeMage, do you have a wiki for planning the doc [11:58] ? [11:58] cbx33, we are tight on deadline indeed :-/ [11:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToCookEdubuntu/Worksheet [11:59] cbx33: nope, just working locally then pasting to the edubuntu wiki [11:59] bbiab...i may be able to help you out [11:59] oh my that looked strange [11:59] brb [11:59] cbx33, with what chapters ? [11:59] (just ignore mines, considering that is done already, just not uploaded) [12:00] back [12:00] pygi: cool [12:01] uploading soon? [12:03] HedgeMage, not sure :-/