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| nictuku | neuralis, so, I'm not going to the dev summit | 02:11 |
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| ajmitch | nictuku: missed out on sponsorship? | 02:27 |
| nictuku | if you mean I was not selected for a sponsorhip, then yes. :-) | 02:28 |
| ajmitch | a shame | 02:28 |
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| neuralis | ajmitch: same here, it turns out :) | 04:35 |
| ajmitch | sounds like they're sponsoring very few | 04:36 |
| ajmitch | I've not heard of anyone who's been sponsored | 04:36 |
| neuralis | well, i'm a little uneasy about the server situation | 04:38 |
| ajmitch | how so? | 04:38 |
| ajmitch | no clear direction that things are going in? | 04:39 |
| neuralis | without fabio and myself, there's going to be one server team admin there | 04:39 |
| ajmitch | fabio won't be there? | 04:39 |
| neuralis | nope | 04:39 |
| ajmitch | we'll need to spec & discuss online then | 04:40 |
| ajmitch | what ideas do you have for edgy at the moment? | 04:41 |
| neuralis | in a meeting now, can't talk at the moment | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | ok | 04:41 |
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| infinity | neuralis: Did you ask for sponsorship and get turned down, or not ask at all? | 07:01 |
| neuralis | infinity: i was turned down | 07:10 |
| jsgotangco | that sucks | 07:14 |
| infinity | neuralis: Feh. | 07:26 |
| infinity | neuralis: Did you get a reason, or just a "sorry, try again next time"? | 07:28 |
| neuralis | infinity: the latter. | 07:28 |
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| ajmitch | hi infinity | 07:32 |
| infinity | Hey dude. | 07:33 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | so on my fresh LAMP install... why is the server trying to make me download a .php rather than display it.... | 06:15 |
| BlackHand | after restart apache ? | 06:15 |
| FunnyLookinHat | umm.. fresh install... with a few reboots | 06:17 |
| FunnyLookinHat | the LAMP installation installs apache, mysql, and php to my knowledge, right?? | 06:17 |
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| _r_a_b_ | can someone help me set up my server with php | 09:57 |
| monkee13 | what version? | 09:57 |
| monkee13 | just sudo apt-get install php5 then install thr recomended that you want. | 09:58 |
| _r_a_b_ | apache 2.2.2 php4 and ubuntu 510 | 09:58 |
| _r_a_b_ | i did | 09:58 |
| _r_a_b_ | actually i got php4, but I'm having troubles with my server | 09:58 |
| monkee13 | what's happening? | 09:59 |
| _r_a_b_ | hackthps.no-ip.org:8008 | 09:59 |
| _r_a_b_ | It wont display php files correctly | 09:59 |
| monkee13 | have you configed apache to use php? | 10:00 |
| _r_a_b_ | no, i couldn't find the php lib to include | 10:00 |
| _r_a_b_ | and the directoy listing looks different | 10:01 |
| monkee13 | let me check mine, I use apache2, php5, mysql | 10:01 |
| monkee13 | what do yo umean it looks different? | 10:03 |
| _r_a_b_ | doesnt look the the normal one | 10:04 |
| _r_a_b_ | idk how to explian it, | 10:04 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: You're using apache2? | 10:04 |
| _r_a_b_ | yes | 10:04 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: If so, you want "libapache2-mod-php4" (or libapache2-mod-php5 for php5) installed. That will magically set stuff up to work with apache2. | 10:05 |
| monkee13 | do you have the sites-enabled configed? | 10:05 |
| infinity | Then just /etc/init.d/apache2 restart | 10:05 |
| infinity | monkee13: Nothing should need to be configured out of the box. Just needs the right packages installed. | 10:05 |
| monkee13 | true | 10:06 |
| _r_a_b_ | k | 10:06 |
| _r_a_b_ | now look at it | 10:06 |
| monkee13 | I usaully have multiple sites running so I heavily modify my config | 10:06 |
| _r_a_b_ | php works and everything | 10:06 |
| infinity | Yup, definitely seems to work. | 10:07 |
| infinity | Now you just need to configure yourself some vhosts for all those virtuals, and you're set. | 10:07 |
| infinity | monkee13: As do I. But I suspect you could guess that anyway. ;) | 10:07 |
| _r_a_b_ | yea, thats where the confusion comes in | 10:07 |
| infinity | (If not, compare /wii infinity with the changelog.Debian.gz for apache2, php4, php5, and mysql...) | 10:08 |
| _r_a_b_ | I have my vhosts set up but they arent working | 10:08 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: Okay, this is where you get to add more vhosts to /etc/apache2/sites-available, then "a2ensite mynewsite" | 10:08 |
| _r_a_b_ | http://hackthps.no-ip.org:8008/rabrab.no-ip.org/www/zomghttpd.txt | 10:09 |
| _r_a_b_ | theres my configuration, but the vhosts just wontwork | 10:09 |
| _r_a_b_ | wontwork* | 10:09 |
| _r_a_b_ | wont work**** | 10:09 |
| infinity | Ick. | 10:09 |
| infinity | You removed our configs? | 10:10 |
| infinity | Completely? | 10:10 |
| _r_a_b_ | no | 10:10 |
| _r_a_b_ | i never got the ubuntu version | 10:10 |
| infinity | Well, this is a default config from apache.org | 10:10 |
| _r_a_b_ | i compiled apache 2 from source | 10:10 |
| infinity | Oh! | 10:10 |
| infinity | If you're compiling from source, this is where my effort to help you ends. :) | 10:10 |
| infinity | I package this stuff for a reason. | 10:10 |
| _r_a_b_ | lol | 10:10 |
| infinity | Mostly so I don't have to answer support requests from people who compile from source. ;) | 10:10 |
| _r_a_b_ | k well, one last question | 10:11 |
| monkee13 | use the packages it works great that way | 10:11 |
| _r_a_b_ | i have php4 from the repos and mysql from the repos. How can I get rid of apaceh 2 that I compiled and get the one from the repos? | 10:11 |
| infinity | If you installed it to /usr/local (which is looks like from the config), you should be able to just "rm -rf /usr/local/apache2" | 10:12 |
| monkee13 | rm the directories and config files then apt-get install apache2 | 10:12 |
| mart | hmm - that's the other good reason to use packages :) | 10:12 |
| infinity | Maybe pick up some other random crap that got sprinkles around. | 10:12 |
| infinity | And "apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork" to make sure you're getting the MPM that will work with PHP. | 10:12 |
| infinity | (Yes, the packaging system enforces this anyway, but can be a bit unfriendly to people who don't understand what it's saying) | 10:13 |
| _r_a_b_ | what about /etc/init.d/apache2 | 10:14 |
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| _r_a_b_ | I did what you said, but my server is still up | 10:14 |
| _r_a_b_ | wait | 10:14 |
| _r_a_b_ | nvm | 10:14 |
| _r_a_b_ | :) | 10:14 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Why won't my LAMP ubuntu server install render php pages out of the box?? | 10:14 |
| FunnyLookinHat | It tries to make me download phtml files when I go to index.php | 10:14 |
| infinity | FunnyLookinHat: Because the LAMP setup on the install CD is broken and didn't install PHP. Known bug. | 10:14 |
| infinity | FunnyLookinHat: "apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql" | 10:15 |
| _r_a_b_ | infinity, should i delete ect/init.d/apache2 ? | 10:15 |
| FunnyLookinHat | infinity, oooh, hahaha.. | 10:15 |
| infinity | FunnyLookinHat: I'll fix it before release, honest. :) | 10:15 |
| FunnyLookinHat | thanks! | 10:15 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: Have you installed the Ubuntu packages yet? | 10:15 |
| ivoks | infinity: like that smbspool bug? :) | 10:15 |
| _r_a_b_ | no | 10:15 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: If not, then yes, delete the init script first. | 10:15 |
| infinity | (You'll get a new one with the package) | 10:16 |
| FunnyLookinHat | infinity, do I have to dpkg-reconfigure apache2 after i install those? | 10:16 |
| infinity | FunnyLookinHat: No, just restart it. | 10:16 |
| FunnyLookinHat | kk | 10:16 |
| infinity | ivoks: Yeah, yeah. | 10:16 |
| infinity | ivoks: TODO list this --> <-- big, time allotment this --><-- big. | 10:16 |
| infinity | ivoks: Getting there, though. | 10:16 |
| ivoks | infinity: i know :/ | 10:17 |
| infinity | Oh well. Edgy release cycle should be much better. | 10:17 |
| infinity | I'm dropping pretty much anything and everything I do that's even vaguely desktop-related (bubye Thunderbird!) and concentrating entirely on ubuntu-server and archive maintenance (buildd stuff, etc) | 10:18 |
| infinity | So, y'know. I might actually be able to work 8 hour days instead of 16 hour days. | 10:18 |
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| monkee13 | infinity: I just realized who you are, I will definitly come back here with my questions. I just moved over to ubuntu from fedora aout two weeks ago and I LOVE it. | 10:18 |
| _r_a_b_ | whats up with this package | 10:19 |
| ivoks | infinity: i thing you have new admirer :) | 10:19 |
| ivoks | k | 10:19 |
| ivoks | grr... | 10:19 |
| monkee13 | I have also converted over about four coworkers that prefer ubuntu over fedora | 10:19 |
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| infinity | ivoks: I could use one, I mostly just get abuse from you guys. *grin* | 10:20 |
| ivoks | infinity: sorry for that :( | 10:21 |
| infinity | Ah well... At least neuralis loves me. | 10:22 |
| ivoks | lol | 10:22 |
| ivoks | well, i would love to help you | 10:22 |
| infinity | He will be coming to the summit afterall, BTW, so if you have server-related spec ideas, please bounce them off him so he and I can discuss them in Paris. | 10:23 |
| _r_a_b_ | infinity, isn't there supposed to be a SeverName in the conf? | 10:23 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: The conf is split. And no, the default conf doesn't need a ServerName, only the vhosts do. | 10:24 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: Set up vhosts in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ | 10:24 |
| ivoks | infinity: that means I'm not invited? :) | 10:24 |
| infinity | ivoks: It's a small summit. neuralis and I will be the only server guys there, from the looks of things. | 10:24 |
| infinity | Which is fine, cause we're aiming for a very small number of achievable specs this time around, nothing pie-in-the-sky. | 10:25 |
| ivoks | ok | 10:25 |
| infinity | I would like to see something come of the s390 port, but I haven't heard from that crowd in a while. | 10:25 |
| infinity | They kinda went dead after much talk a few months ago. | 10:26 |
| _r_a_b_ | infinity, so i just make copies of default and put them in the sites-avalible folder? | 10:26 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: Well, default's probably a lot more wordy than what you want. | 10:26 |
| _r_a_b_ | yea | 10:26 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: The smaller chunks that you had in your old config would be fine. | 10:26 |
| _r_a_b_ | do i just add onto default? | 10:26 |
| infinity | Doing one site per file works well, IMO, hence the way it's split. | 10:27 |
| _r_a_b_ | name them anything? | 10:27 |
| infinity | default will just end up being a catch-all for anything that doesn't match the ServerName/ServerAlias in your other sites. | 10:27 |
| infinity | Name them whatever. I usually name them the same as ServerName. | 10:27 |
| infinity | So I can then "a2ensite www.foo.com" to enable a site. | 10:28 |
| _r_a_b_ | a3ensite? | 10:28 |
| _r_a_b_ | a2ensite**? | 10:28 |
| ivoks | Apache2ENableSITE | 10:28 |
| FunnyLookinHat | infinity, dude apparently the LAMP install didn't install mysql either! | 10:28 |
| infinity | FunnyLookinHat: No? Awesome. "apt-get install mysql-server" :) | 10:29 |
| infinity | FunnyLookinHat: I need to mangle that thing and make sure it's right for Flight-8. Sorry about the breakage. | 10:29 |
| infinity | (Yay, beta releases) | 10:29 |
| ivoks | _r_a_b_: a2ensite links site from sites-available to sites-enabled | 10:29 |
| _r_a_b_ | Ohhh | 10:30 |
| _r_a_b_ | k, im movingmy sites into site-avalible | 10:30 |
| ivoks | _r_a_b_: ubuntu/debian way of handling sites is much nicer than upstream or redhat | 10:30 |
| ivoks | (/me works with redhat and can't wait dapper to get out) | 10:30 |
| infinity | ivoks: We get a lot of people whining about it, but they seem to be people with very few sites who love a giant httpd.conf. Anyone who runs massive sites already used a similar setup anyway, so finds it intuitive. | 10:31 |
| _r_a_b_ | This site does not exist! | 10:31 |
| infinity | (This config setup was basically based on the way thom and I both did our apache1.3 setups on our own machines) | 10:31 |
| ivoks | infinity: ignore them... this way is muuuch nicer | 10:31 |
| ivoks | _r_a_b_: typo? | 10:31 |
| FunnyLookinHat | infinity, yea i just ran mysql-server mysql-client | 10:31 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: Spelling counts. :) | 10:31 |
| FunnyLookinHat | : P | 10:31 |
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| _r_a_b_ | wtf | 10:32 |
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| ivoks | _r_a_b_: what's the problem? | 10:33 |
| _r_a_b_ | uhm | 10:33 |
| _r_a_b_ | apache2 not found | 10:33 |
| ivoks | _r_a_b_: talk to me, infinity has much more things to do now | 10:33 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: Try being a bit more verbose. :) | 10:33 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: What complains about that? | 10:33 |
| _r_a_b_ | infinity told me to delete apache2 in ect/init.d/ in my old install | 10:33 |
| ivoks | ok, i would say "put more words in it..." :) | 10:34 |
| ivoks | _r_a_b_: right | 10:34 |
| _r_a_b_ | then i installed the package from the repos | 10:34 |
| ivoks | ok | 10:34 |
| _r_a_b_ | and it never came back | 10:34 |
| ivoks | sure it did | 10:34 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: Oh, you already had apache2-common installed, didn't you? (that's where the init script comes from) | 10:34 |
| _r_a_b_ | maybe | 10:34 |
| _r_a_b_ | i dont think i did | 10:34 |
| ivoks | apt-get --reinstall install apache2-common | 10:34 |
| infinity | _r_a_b_: dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/apache2-common*deb | 10:35 |
| ivoks | ....or that :) | 10:35 |
| infinity | ivoks: reinstall won't replace deleted conffiles. | 10:35 |
| infinity | ivoks: Since deleting a conffile is a valid change, so we won't "undo" it. | 10:35 |
| ivoks | ah, ok | 10:35 |
| ivoks | my bad | 10:35 |
| _r_a_b_ | :) | 10:35 |
| _r_a_b_ | omg | 10:36 |
| _r_a_b_ | <3 | 10:36 |
| _r_a_b_ | i love you | 10:36 |
| ivoks | someone correctly noted that with so many hugs and "i love you" we are getting more gay every day :) | 10:37 |
| infinity | (Not that there's anything wrong with that) | 10:37 |
| ivoks | of course | 10:38 |
| infinity | Okay, it should be a crime against humanity for a build to fail after 91 hours... | 10:38 |
| ivoks | lol | 10:39 |
| ivoks | that remindes me on my gentoo days :) | 10:39 |
| ivoks | short and bitter period | 10:39 |
| infinity | Also, people using [ -f /proc/kcore ] to determine if you have /proc mounted should be shot. | 10:42 |
| infinity | That is all. | 10:42 |
| === maswan hands control of the lunar railgun to infinity | ||
| infinity | maswan: Many thanks. | 10:43 |
| === ivoks add nuke to the queue | ||
| maswan | ivoks: a sufficiently large rock dropped from orbit doesn't need fancy nuke inside. :) | 10:43 |
| ivoks | maswan: it does, to make sure radiation eliminates all offspring :) | 10:44 |
| maswan | ivoks: see "sufficiently". ;) | 10:45 |
| ivoks | hehe | 10:45 |
| ivoks | well, that's all from me for today (couple of bad jokes and another 500 translation messages) | 10:51 |
| ivoks | bye | 10:51 |
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