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_JECKEL_doing everything through the terminal window gets a bit annoying12:00
nickrudmerriam, I like a cluttered desktop. It's so like my real life :)12:00
thoreauputic__JECKEL_: umm - just edit the menu - takes a few seconds in an editor12:00
pti-sebhey12:00
nickruddorel_, me. tab completion trips me again12:00
pti-sebI am french12:00
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paradizelost!fr12:00
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:00
pti-seband I don't speak english very well12:01
pti-sebI have wrote an article12:01
pti-sebcan you tell me if you understand it ?12:01
paradizelostpti-seb: send a link12:01
pti-sebhttp://www.tux-planet.fr/blog/?2006/05/12/78-convertion-de-fichiers-wma-en-mp3-convert-wma-files-to-mp312:01
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pti-sebthe english part is after the french part12:01
pti-seb:-)12:02
paradizelostpti-seb: site not loading12:02
paradizelostor VERY slow12:02
pti-sebyou can see this article also by the fedora-people12:02
_JECKEL_how does fedora measure up to ubuntu btw?12:02
paradizelostpti-seb: ubuntu better.12:02
paradizelost!fedora12:03
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost12:03
thoreauputic__JECKEL_: I have a menu entry "manu editor" that opens the menu in my favourite editor12:03
thoreauputic_s/manu/menu12:03
nickrudpti-seb, to start with, ubuntu doesn't use yum :)12:03
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pti-sebI say12:03
pti-sebthe article is availible to this link : http://fedoraproject.org/people/12:03
_JECKEL_ehhh12:03
paradizelostpti-seb: is there a reason you don't have the script do subdirs?12:03
pti-sebs/yum/apt-get/g12:03
_JECKEL_fine I'll switch over to fluxbox. @.@12:04
paradizelostpti-seb: ahh, it's a bash script12:04
pti-sebparadizelost, no reason12:04
paradizelostif you do it in perl it can do subdirs.12:04
paradizelost:D12:04
paradizelosteasily12:04
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pti-sebI don't like perl, sorry12:04
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pti-sebyou understand my english article ????12:04
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orbishhello everyone, i'm new and have a question12:04
Protocol1ah shucks...ran out of lime soda12:05
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thoreauputic_!ask12:05
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.12:05
paradizelostpti-seb: it's understandable,  i understand the code better than the article12:05
orbishi installed ubuntu hoary from an ISO i burned a few months back12:05
paradizelostProtocol1: replace it with beer next time12:05
orbishis upgrading to breezy important?12:05
paradizelostorbish: upgrade to breezy or dapper....12:05
thoreauputic_orbish: yes, hoary is getting pretty old now12:05
pti-sebparadizelost, ok12:05
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orbishwhat's the best way of going about that12:05
Protocol1paradizelost, sorry been clean for nine months aint going back12:05
apolorbish: it is important, but perhaps you could move to dapper instead...12:05
paradizelostpti-seb: but that's because i nitpick minor english misusings12:05
paradizelost!upgrade12:06
paradizelost!tell orbish about upgrade12:06
thoreauputic_orbish: if you want dapper you would need to use a CD unless you want to do two upgrades12:06
orbishsigh, i was hoping for a command of some sort12:06
paradizelostProtocol1: you do know that beer is healthier than pop right?  except for the following drunkenness12:06
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thoreauputic_orbish: change your sources from hoary to breezy, update, then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:07
paradizelosthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade12:07
paradizelostthen12:07
pruebas_hi! is there a command to kill all processes of a specific user?12:07
crimsun!xgl12:07
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/12:07
thoreauputic_orbish: the URL paradizelost gave tells you about it12:07
paradizelosthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades\12:07
paradizelostminus the \12:08
orbishthanks, i'm looking into it now12:08
thoreauputic_:)12:08
Protocol1paradizelost, yeah....but water or juice will have to do12:08
ruggycoffee12:09
paradizelosthey, can anyone think of a downside to using carpet cleaner that has a coupon on it that expires 1/31/86?12:09
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paradizelostmy grandpa gave me a can that was under his sink....12:09
paradizelosti know offtopic.12:09
apolparadizelost: 86?????12:09
paradizelostyep12:09
paradizelostit's older than my little brother.12:09
idefixI just looked at whatever I installed using the repos and I see that it is a hell of a lot.. are any of them recursive or something?12:09
steveireIs it common to put your home folder in a separate partition?12:09
paradizeloststeveire: usually, yes i do12:10
bimberisteveire: yes12:10
paradizelostidefix: what did you install?12:10
Jowisteveire: absoluteley.12:10
idefixparadizelost, well I'm sure I didn't select so many (1135)12:10
steveireAnd you do that manually? it's common to have a separate boot partition too?12:10
paradizeloststeveire: prevents you from losing your data when you have to format12:10
thoreauputic_idefix: those are the dependencies, libraries etc12:10
paradizeloststeveire: you can do it w/ the installer12:10
paradizeloststeveire: i also usually use a separate DISK12:11
paradizelostbecause if the primary disk goes, and you had the data  on a separate partition, you still lose the partition12:11
thoreauputic_idefix: when you install apps you usually get a bunch of smaller packages with it12:11
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steveireIndeed. So If I have a home folder already on a partition, I can tell the installer that it's there, and not to make a new one? Or do I let it make a new one, and then replace it with my mounted partition?12:12
Jowisteveire: because if your system get a hang-over one day and decide to stay in bed taking a break instead of working, you can replace it and still keep your user files intact :)12:12
paradizelostidefix: for example, kubuntu-desktop installs about 300MB worth of small packages12:12
paradizeloststeveire: yes, during the install, you simply do a manual partitioning12:12
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crueldogI need help about printers12:12
paradizelost!printers12:12
ubotusomebody said printers was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org12:12
paradizelost!ask12:13
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.12:13
Jowi!cups12:13
ubotuwell, cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/12:13
Jowiah, that was he same link :)12:13
crueldoglol12:13
crueldogno12:13
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steveireAnd if I have a separate boot partition, Is that where my kernels are kept? (I'm planning on installing multiple distros, or at least having the option to)12:13
paradizeloststeveire: as long as you mount it at /boot12:13
crueldogi serioustl;y need help... i cant get to make my printer print a page12:13
paradizeloststeveire: yes, that's where the kernels are kept12:13
paradizelostcrueldog: what type of printer is it? might help to have that info12:14
Jowicrueldog: best way is to go to linuxprinting.org and see if there is an updated driver for your printer12:14
paradizelost!tell crueldog about ask12:14
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crueldog...12:14
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steveireI currently have the option of using three ubuntu linux kernels at boot. Is that really neccessary, or can I remove the oldest two?12:14
mumblesare there any people here that could help me to get my dlink dw=-g650+ workign ?12:14
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paradizeloststeveire: the reason they do that is in case there is a messup and the new kernel doesn't boot.12:15
mumbleswhen ubuntu isent finding any pcimcia cards and widnows is12:15
paradizelostif the new kernel boots, you can probably get rid of the old ones12:15
steveireOK, cool12:15
paradizelostmumbles: do you have your pcmcia drivers loaded?12:15
orbishi'm just downloading 6.06, instead of 5.10... is it really buggy?12:15
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mumbleserm... possabley not12:15
apolorbish: its fine12:15
paradizelostorbish: just make sure your getting flight 712:15
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orbishflight 7?12:16
crueldogthe driver isnt online12:16
paradizelostthe latest  version12:16
thoreauputic_orbish: pretty stable now from what I hear12:16
crueldogHP deskjet 54012:16
paradizelostcrueldog: gnome or kde?12:16
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mumblesparadizelost - will the package manager get them ?12:16
steveireIf I want to make a new boot partition, do I have to remove my current Ubuntu installation, and start again, telling the installer to use the boot partition?12:16
paradizelostcrueldog: have you installed the printer?12:16
paradizelost!pcmcia12:16
ubotuparadizelost: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:16
paradizelost!laptop12:16
ubotuI guess laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org12:16
paradizelostcrueldog: or just plugged it in?12:17
crueldogi plugged12:17
steveireThanks for the help, paradizelost, I hope my questions aren't too stupid. I tend to ask a lot of questions though...12:17
crueldogi cant install12:17
thoreauputic_grr... no irssi themes fit my setup12:17
crueldognthe driver isnt there!12:17
paradizelostcrueldog: system->administration->printing12:17
amphisteveire: or backup, repartition, and restore12:17
crueldogi know12:17
crueldogbut12:17
crueldogthe driver isnt there12:17
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steveireamphi: Won't that restore /boot as it is in my current set up?12:18
ompaulyaaa he returns12:18
paradizelostcrueldog: dapper has the drivers.12:18
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paradizelost:D12:18
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orbishthis is what i'm downloading ubuntu-6.06-beta2-install-i386.iso12:18
orbishis that flight 7?12:18
steveirenope12:18
ruggyno12:18
orbishhmm..12:18
steveireYou'll prob have to do a ton of updating if you do that...12:19
crueldogwhats dapper?12:19
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crueldogWhat is dapper?12:20
paradizelosthttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/12:20
paradizelost!dapper12:20
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)12:20
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orbishjust found it   thanks paradize12:20
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steveireWill grub live on my boot partition too, or does it get installed in the root of whichever distro I use to install it (Am I making %uany%u sense?)12:21
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paradizeloststeveire: the grub files are in /boot, but it installs to the MBR to boot12:21
majdIs there a quick tutorial to create a lan network between my linux and windows machines?12:21
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crueldogparadizelost: what is dapper?12:22
thoreauputic!samba12:22
ubotusamba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html12:22
steveiredapper is the beta version of ubuntu12:22
thoreauputicmajd: ^^^12:22
majdthoreauputic, thanks12:22
crueldogk12:23
thoreauputicmajd: no problem :)12:23
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amphisteveire: not if you've made /boot a separate partition, and mounted it12:23
steveireparadizelost: What do you mean it installs the MBR to boot? It installs the MBR to whichever disto I use to install it?12:23
|Sivik|what is the easy way to install arial in linux?12:23
crueldogi have 2 printers, one on parallel port (which i dont find driver) and one on usp, which i have driver, but i cant make it oprint.12:23
crueldogusb**12:23
thoreauputicsteveire: umm - grub installs to the MBR unless you tell it not to12:23
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paradizelostmaster boot record12:24
paradizelostthere is 1 master boot record per hard disk12:24
paradizelostit's a 512byte section IIRC12:24
paradizelostSeveas: you here?12:24
crueldogi have 2 printers, one on parallel port (which i dont find driver) and one on usb, which i have driver, but i cant make it print.12:24
paradizelostSeveas: how would one add a link to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/  in the info in !dapper?12:25
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crueldogthanks for the help (sarcastiquely)12:26
paradizelostwell all, time to head home.12:26
Seveasparadizelost, one wouldn't. The factoid is long already12:26
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bimberiparadizelost: there's a !flight7 factoid12:26
steveireOK, I think I'm beginning to understand, but should I tell grub not to install to the MBR?12:26
amphisteveire: grub installs files in /boot/grub12:26
paradizelostSeveas: it's a pain to always have to tell people where they can get the cd....12:26
paradizelost!flight712:26
ubotuflight7 is probably available via http://www.ubuntu.com/testing, or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/12:26
paradizelostahh.,12:26
paradizelostk12:26
paradizelostnm12:26
paradizelost:D12:26
paradizelostdanke12:26
amphisteveire: and writes some code to the mbr by default12:26
paradizelostwe'll cya all l8r.12:26
thoreauputicsteveire: normally you install grub to the MBR12:27
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thoreauputicsteveire: it then puts its config files in /boot/grub12:27
MintyHave a printer connected to my XP machine , should i use cups or win smb as choice in settings ??12:27
bimberi!xprint12:27
ubotubimberi: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:27
bimberi!xpprint12:27
ubotuPrinting from ubuntu to an XP connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter.  Printing from XP to an ubuntu connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP12:27
thoreauputicbimberi: aha - that's a useful factoid12:28
thoreauputic:)12:28
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_JECKEL_this is odd12:28
bimberi!factinfo xpprint12:28
ubotuxpprint -- created by bimberi <n=bimberi@144.139.227.130> at Tue Feb 21 15:18:14 2006 (80 days); it has been requested 20 times, last by bimberi, 39s ago.12:28
dominionFact:  The world's largest art gallery is the Winter Palace and Hermitage in St. Petersburg, Russia. Visitors would have to walk 15 miles to see the 322 galleries which house nearly 3 million works of art.12:28
bimberi:)12:28
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thoreauputic:)12:28
_JECKEL_seems like all my windows and such in fluxbox are stuck on the same orangish brown background theme for input boxes12:28
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majdhi12:29
steveireAs my current condition is dual booting XP and Kubuntu, do I make a boot partition, move everything from /boot to it, then reinstall grub?12:30
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majdi'm trying to kill a process and when i type in the PID it asks me if i really want to do it so i type y then enter and it says operation not permitted12:30
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thoreauputicsteveire: you don't really need a separate boot partition normally...12:30
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Blissexmajd: do it as 'root'.12:30
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mumblesok. i try and install pcmcia-modules- and it says its dependent on12:31
Blissexsteveire: why? whats the point?12:31
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_JECKEL_hmmm12:31
mumbleskernel-image-2.4.26-1-686-smp12:31
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_JECKEL_any idea why my windows on the input boxes would be stuck on one theme in fluxbox even though I change themes?12:31
steveireI like ubuntu, but I want to have the option of trying and possibly keeping or removing other linux distros and FreeBSD12:31
simonpcaplop12:32
thoreauputic_JECKEL_: try firing up gnome-theme-manager12:32
amphisteveire: just keep /home on a separate partition is enough for that12:32
mumbleshwo do i get rid of that dependencey ?12:32
nickrudsteveire, simply keep some partitions around, and run a master menu.lst12:32
thoreauputic_JECKEL_: you can change the theme using that usually - but only if gnome-settings-daemon is running12:32
Jowi_JECKEL_: it's a bug. i made some gtk themes myself and sometimes the themes do not get updated properly immediatly12:32
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steveireNo need for a separate boot partition so, you say... nickrud, so leave the partition there available to take a new os if the mood takes me?12:33
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thoreauputicJowi: no, he's in fluxbox - and probably not running gnome-settings-daemon12:33
dolmenVim7 will not be in Dapper... Very sad...12:33
dolmenhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vim/+bug/4426912:33
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steveirecan you tell me anything about Master.list?12:33
nickrudsteveire, yes.12:33
steveiresorry, menu.list. never heard of it12:34
thoreauputic_JECKEL_: read the docs at fluxbox.org12:34
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butusalut12:34
ompaul!fr12:34
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:34
Jowithoreauputic: does not matter. fluxbox (and sawfish that i use) does not need the gnome-settings-deamon. i use gtk-chtheme to change the "application" theme12:34
thoreauputic_JECKEL_: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook.php12:34
steveireIs there any concievable advantage or situation to having a separate boot partition?12:34
nickrudsteveire, it's the configuration file that you'd use to control booting the partitions.12:34
Mintyloggin, by all12:35
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_JECKEL_I got it12:35
steveireerm. I use grub to control booting partitions. Is it a file in grub? how would I use it as a master file?12:35
_JECKEL_running the theme thing worked12:35
thoreauputicJowi: problem is that "switch" doesn't seem to work for that here - gtk-chtheme you say? haven't heard of that ...12:36
nickrudsteveire, I use grub now, and find it easier to let /boot exist natively for each os. Sometimes, names of kernels from one partition to another are identical12:36
riddleboxhow do I stop a module from loading at boot?12:36
Jowithoreauputic: yeah, some wierd bug in gtk-theme-switch2.12:36
Apostle^riddlebox, remove it from /etc/modules ?12:36
majdHi, i'm trying to access System>Administration>Network12:36
majdand when i type in my password i get this: Failed to run network-admin as user root:12:36
majd Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.12:36
steveirenickrud: OK, a disadvantage is good enough for me...12:36
Jowithoreauputic: got it from here i think: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gtk-chtheme/12:37
steveireno boot partition it is. Seems like a lot of hassle anyway12:37
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riddleboxApostle^, the module is not even in there?12:37
Super_Cat_Froghi - is XGL on the latest dapper cd?12:37
Apostle^riddlebox, hmm.. don't know then12:38
Apostle^Super_Cat_Frog, i don't think XGL is on any ubuntu cd, because it's new and buggy12:38
tahorgbuggy ?12:38
Jowithoreauputic: ah, even better. found its homepage: http://plasmasturm.org/code/gtk-chtheme/12:38
tahorgI'm using it every day12:38
thoreauputicriddlebox: used to be you put it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist - but I think that's changed in dapper12:38
Super_Cat_Frogok ta12:39
Apostle^tahorg, some people have success others not depending on hardware etc12:39
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riddleboxahhh ok12:39
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thoreauputicJowi: thanks :)12:39
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tahorgApostle^: I agree it's a driver issue12:39
Jowiriddlebox: should be /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist for dapper12:39
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riddleboxJowi, thanks12:40
_JECKEL_hmmm12:40
thoreauputicoops, big lag followed by flood here.. very odd12:40
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_JECKEL_hmmm12:41
_JECKEL_ok..12:41
_JECKEL_now..if only I could get rid of that damn scrollbar to the left of aterm..12:41
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steveirefdisk -l has a star beside my windows partition under boot. What does this mean, and will changing it affect anything?12:41
thoreauputic_JECKEL_: aterm +sb12:41
_JECKEL_awesome12:42
thoreauputic:)12:42
thoreauputic_JECKEL_: you should really read the aterm man page - all sorts of options in there12:42
ruggythe world is going to end on monday12:42
thoreauputicruggy: thanks for the warning12:42
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Jowiruggy: better spend my last days configuring ubuntu then!12:43
majdHi, i'm trying to access System>Administration>Network12:43
majdand when i type in my password i get this: Failed to run network-admin as user root:12:43
majd Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.12:43
tahorgruggy: the're coming, at last.12:43
_JECKEL_I find it easier to learn from the experience of others12:43
_JECKEL_and fooling around myself12:43
ompaulthoreauputic, can you send me the plans for a tin foil hat12:43
thoreauputicquick! squash all bugs before Armageddon!12:43
Twilight_SunWINE12:43
ompaul!wine12:44
Twilight_Sun!wine12:44
Jowiompaul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinfoil_hat :P12:44
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ompaulTwilight_Sun, check the message from ubotu :)12:44
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ompaulJowi, thanks12:44
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siriusnovasup guys12:44
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Twilight_Sunno recognize12:45
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mumbles. i try and install pcmcia-modules- and it says its dependent on kernel-image-2.4.26-1-686-smp how do i sort this out ?12:47
Twilight_Sunhow do tou load driectX through wine12:48
Twilight_Sunyou812:48
Twilight_Sun*12:48
Twilight_Sun**************12:48
majdhow can i see how much space is left on my hard drive?12:48
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amphimajd: df [-h] 12:48
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majddf: `[-h] ': No such file or directory12:49
Jowi"df -h"12:49
siriusnovahaha this website is cool12:49
siriusnovait lets you watch tv shows and episodes12:49
siriusnovafor free12:49
siriusnova:D12:49
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Twilight_Sunpeer12:50
siriusnovait works in linux too >.<12:50
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Twilight_Sunis there a way to upgrade DXdiag?12:50
majdi love the fact that i don't have enough space to delete stuff12:51
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ompaulmako, good evening12:51
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tahorgmajd: you are really strange12:51
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majdtahorg, why?12:51
majdi think i figured it out12:51
majdi have 1gb in my trash12:52
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Trashcanlol12:52
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tech_how do I install verlihub12:52
tech_?12:52
tahorgmajd: good guess :)12:52
rabCan some one help me get the Perl NET::IRC module working?12:52
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stevioI was not very smart earlier and I deleted the bottom panel where the windows kind of minimize to, how can I get this back? I added a new panel on the desktop, but the windows don't minimize to them.12:52
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mumbleswoo package manager dosent like me tongiht12:53
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rabstevio, right click ont he panel and go to add to panel, Then select window list12:53
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CaNesOnE??12:54
CaNesOnEhi12:54
Mystery47hi12:54
CaNesOnEwhats is your from?12:54
rabCan some one help me get the Perl NET::IRC module working?12:55
Oldfor ddclient installation, is the "interface used for dynamic DNS service" eth=0 or?12:55
Twilight_Sunjava is a peice of crap12:55
JowiOld: depends. are you behind a router?12:55
OldNo12:55
_jasonrab: libnet-irc-perl12:55
Oldits eth=0, not eth012:55
Oldright?12:55
rab_jason, i receive errors12:55
rab_jason, rabrab.no-ip.org/errors/12:55
OldJowi, correct?12:56
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_jasonrab: maybe #perl can be more helpful or two ##... idk12:56
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rab_jason, k thanks12:56
JowiOld: if=eth012:56
_jasonrab: I can't access your site by the way12:56
Oldis it if=eth012:56
Jowiyes12:56
Oldsure?12:56
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JowiOld: are you using a ppp0 connection?12:57
rab_jason, how about now?12:57
Oldcheers mate12:57
paradizelos1hey all, is there any way to pre-empt an existing IRC connection i have in gaim on another PC i currently don't have access to?12:57
Oldit worked Jowi12:57
Olddunno12:57
Old:D12:57
Jowicool Old12:57
_jasonrab: 404 it seems12:57
Apostle^paradizelos1, msg nickserv ghost username password12:57
Apostle^i believe ..12:57
Twilight_SunCan DX be upgraded on Linux?12:57
rabodd, it was working earlier12:58
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steveireWhat kind of filesystem should I use for my /home partition?12:58
mantono^!mpd12:58
ubotumantono^: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:58
Jowisteveire: ext3 is recommended12:58
Apostle^steveire, ext3 is good12:58
thoreauputicsteveire: good ol' ext3 is fine12:58
_jasonrab: it's going to http://24.154.232.113:8008/errors/12:58
ompaulsteveire, unless you have some special requirements defaults are good12:58
rabyea12:59
steveirecool. Would fat work just as well?12:59
ompaulsteveire, no12:59
thoreauputicsteveire: no!12:59
rab_jason, you got it it?12:59
steveirehehe12:59
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Jowisteveire: no. fat does not have "permissions"12:59
thoreauputicsteveire: fat is rubbish12:59
_jasonrab: 404 though12:59
|Sivik|what is the command to get into the file manager as a root12:59
rab_jason, I'm hosting it off my pc12:59
ompaulthoreauputic, don't insult rubbish :)12:59
nnywow12:59
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thoreauputicompaul: haha :)12:59
steveireAh. That explains why I couldn't play music off my fat32 partition.12:59
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steveireI think...12:59
HIGH-FREQ|Sivik|: u mean nautilus12:59
amphinny: heh12:59
paradizeloststeveire: ext3 is fine, but i usually prefer reiserfs12:59
|Sivik|HIGH-FREQ, yes12:59
Jowiyou finally made you hat ompaul :)12:59
nnyasus aj6c... not loving alot of stuff for me right now01:00
steveireWhat about vfat? I thought that was lixux catch-all01:00
|Sivik|HIGH-FREQ, i never can remember that bloody command01:00
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ompaulsteveire, no it does not, you most likely do not have codecs01:00
Ykstort:O01:00
paradizelostvfat ~ fat3201:00
ompaul!codecs01:00
nnyeven pcmcia/wireless is acting up01:00
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories01:00
YkstortI'm unbanned !01:00
amphisteveire: vfat is t3h 3vi101:00
lullabud!java01:00
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:00
_jasonsteveire: fat doesn't allow for linux to use permissions correctly01:00
paradizelost!vfat01:00
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions01:00
HIGH-FREQ|Sivik|: should be like sudo -s nautilus?  maybe...01:00
Jowisteveire: vfat = fat3201:00
steveirecrystal clear now folks. Thanks.01:00
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nnyso yeah, speaking of fat32, is that the best way for sharing storage for a dual boot right now?01:00
|Sivik|/usr/bin/nautilus: /usr/bin/nautilus: cannot execute binary file01:01
Ykstortnny, pretty much01:01
thoreauputicnny: sadly yes01:01
paradizelostnny: you could get the ext2 driver for windows01:01
_jasonrab: however if I get rid of the errors/ it takes me to your homepage01:01
Jowinny: you can do that. but there is also ext drivers for win01:01
nnyparadizelost: hows that work?01:01
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nnyis it better?01:01
steveirenny, that's what I'm currently doing, but I understand you can make windows read etx...01:01
steveireext*01:01
Apostle^nny, the ext2 driver for windows works perfectly01:01
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thoreauputicparadizelost: i hear scary things about the ext2 driver for windows...01:01
Apostle^it just shows it as another drive01:01
paradizelostnny: i haven't set it up myself, but a buddy had it working nicely01:01
|Sivik|HIGH-FREQ, that wasn't right01:01
nnyrock on i'll do that for sotrage01:01
Apostle^it's just point and click, works perfectly01:01
HIGH-FREQhmm..ya i just checked it01:01
SeqI've had pretty good luck using the ext driver in windows, except it places a RECYCLED folder on each partition01:02
nnynow i just need to figure out why this install is fighting me on networking01:02
|Sivik|HIGH-FREQ, its without the -s01:02
rab_jason, oh yeah i deleted it this morning, h/o01:02
_jasonrab: and error without the s takes me to a listing of bot.pl and perl.png01:02
paradizelosti think i's caled e2fs01:02
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HIGH-FREQaah01:02
Seqwhich is matched by a .TRASH-$user on each fat32 partition, so it balances ;)01:02
makoompaul: hey there01:02
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thoreauputicslowing down now01:03
rab_jason, you it's up01:03
thoreauputicoops01:03
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rab_jason, thats the errors01:03
Cooner750Having problems here. ALSA does not work correctly, but OSS does. However audio in Flash does not work with OSS enabled. How can I get that to work?01:03
_jasonrab: should your code read Nest::IRC or Net::pl??01:03
thoreauputicwrong window01:03
ompaulmako, got about 2 minutes?01:03
nnywhy would this dapper install have wifi0/wlan0 listed as interfaces, but on my other laptop (breezy) it shows as eth0?01:03
nnyer eth101:03
makoompaul: sure01:03
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paradizelostnny: the way the driver makes it show01:04
nnythese ornioco cards work fine on my laptop, but are acting trippy on the other one01:04
paradizelostnny: mine shows as eth001:04
nnyhermes chipsetr01:04
nnyhmm01:04
Larsson-SwedenWhen i am using fglrx, and using the vidix video driver in a videoplayer like xine or mplayer, there is only a pink/green screen where the image should be on my tv. I am using tv-out, and where the movie should be, there is only a pink or green screen. It works with the vesa driver for X tough.01:04
ompaulmako, can I give you a bell or do you want to stay on irc?01:04
mumblesok... i cant get my laptop to find my dlink airepluss dwl-g650+01:04
paradizelostnny: but for the dapper issues, i'd ask in #ubuntu+101:04
rab_jason, wow  all that for a typo o.O01:04
_jasonrab: :)01:04
rab_jason thanks anyways01:04
nnythanks01:04
mumblesanyone got any ideas ?01:05
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Oldwhere's the trashcan in ubuntu if theres any?01:05
Old:E01:05
paradizelostOld: icon in the bottom right corner01:05
paradizelostin gnom01:06
paradizelostgnome01:06
JowiLarsson-Sweden: probably a kernel driver bug. had the same prob with my non-ati card. I don't know the fglrx drivers but I would try a different kernel first of all01:06
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paradizelostLarsson-Sweden: have you tried the ati control panel and changed the settings for the tv?01:06
gnomefreakOld: /home/usrname/.trash   iirc01:06
_jasonOld, gnomefreak: capital T, .Trash01:06
ryanpganyone running dapper and FOSS ati driver care to check if EXA is working? it's not for me.01:07
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gnomefreak_jason: ty soryr01:07
paradizelostryanpg: try in #ubuntu+101:07
daryl_ls01:07
gnomefreaks/soryr/sorry01:07
ryanpgparadizelost, ty01:07
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thoreauputicdaryl_: command not found ;-)01:07
Larsson-SwedenJowi, i've had this problem for a long time. I have changed kernels several times.01:07
paradizelost!ls01:07
ubotuhmm... ls is the command used to LiSt the contents of a directory in Linux.01:07
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Larsson-Swedenparadizelost, yes. No luck.01:07
sarixedoes anyone know how to mount an ntfs in dapper with full permissions? i was able to mount one with permissions 500, but i can't figure out a+rwx...01:07
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gnomefreaksarixe: try #ubuntu+!01:08
paradizelostsarixe: try in #ubuntu+101:08
sarixek01:08
sarixethanks01:08
gnomefreak#ubuntu+1 even01:08
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thoreauputicsarixe: you can't write to ntfs01:08
sarixe...01:08
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sarixek01:08
paradizelostit can be done, not safely01:08
JowiLarsson-Sweden: ah. that's crap. how about turning off framebuffer in grub? (add "vga=normal")01:08
sarixewell don't you think that after about 5 years of ntfs, somebody would have come up with linux compatability for it?01:09
Seqcan you create new files in NTFS yet with the unsafe writing ability, or are you still limited to doing equivilant overwrites?01:09
Larsson-SwedenJowi, can that make a diff? Im running the videos in X, and it works with vesa.01:09
thoreauputicsarixe: they would have if MS had given out the specs01:09
paradizelostsarixe: it's due to NTFS being a M$ product and them not releasing the specs for it01:09
sarixei see01:09
amphiLarsson-Sweden: any reason not to use the xv driver?01:09
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paradizelostsarixe: as i said, it can be done, just not safely, there is a fairly high risk of data corruption01:09
thoreauputicsarixe: complain to the chair throwing champion01:09
thoreauputic;)01:09
paradizelostDEVELOPERS!DEVELOPERS!DEVELOPERS!DEVELOPERS!DEVELOPERS!01:10
paradizelost:D01:10
amphiheh01:10
thoreauputicmokey dancer!01:10
_jasonha01:10
thoreauputic*monkey dancer!01:10
JowiLarsson-Sweden: it can. as I said, my kernel drivers + xorg driver combo had wierd things going on for awhile01:10
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amphidid Flying Chair Linux ever get done?01:10
Larsson-Swedenamphi, mplayer can't find that driver.01:10
thoreauputicparadizelost: you could, if he has any01:10
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Larsson-SwedenJowi, is there a GUI for confing grub?01:11
paradizelostCoC?01:11
paradizelostah, code of conduct01:11
thoreauputic!coc01:11
ubotuwell, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/01:11
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paradizelostthoreauputic: it's not as bad as yesterday when a guy was being an idiot and asking for help pirating a cd basically, and i told him to type a command on the CLI01:12
paradizelost:D01:12
thoreauputicparadizelost: was that the guy with the *.mp3.rar file ?01:12
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JowiLarsson-Sweden: ummm... no idea :) to test without framebuffer without changing a thing; when grub starts, "edit" the like and add "vga=normal" after "root=/dev/..." entry and boot it. if it doesn't work you don't have to edit any configs and stuff01:13
paradizelostno, GTA_VICECITY.ISO01:13
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paradizelostor something like that01:13
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thoreauputicparadizelost: haha - I see01:13
Jowis/like/line01:13
thoreauputicparadizelost: mount -o loop GTA_VICECITY.ISO01:13
_jasonwhat are the advantages to turning on the gramebuffer?01:13
paradizelostyep01:13
_jasonframebuffer even01:13
paradizelost!forkbomb01:14
ubotusomebody said forkbomb was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb01:14
amphiLarsson-Sweden: mplayer -vo xv doesn't work?01:14
thoreauputicparadizelost: hmm that's only half of the command I guess01:14
mumblesdose anyone care to do a one to one in helping me with my wireless card ?01:14
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paradizelost!wireless01:14
ubotuI guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers01:14
Larsson-Swedenamphi, no, that video driver can't be found.01:14
amphiLarsson-Sweden: that's very strange01:15
thoreauputicmumbles: it's generally bad form to ask for individual attention01:15
Jowi_jason: framebuffer make cool splash screens during startup. and on integrated graphic cards with shared memory you can set the memory consumption in the bios to your likings01:15
amphimumbles: just ask01:15
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mumblesmy laptop dose not find my dlink airepluss dwl-g650+01:15
_jasonJowi: ah I see, because when i turn it on X refuses to start.  So I was wondering what I was missing.  Thanks01:15
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paradizelostmumbles: do an lspci - is your card in the list, if usb, try lsusb01:16
mumblesparadizelost - thats the thing. i cant find any mention of the card in there01:17
mumblesbut if i do a ldiswrapper -l it says its found it01:17
paradizelostis it USB, PCI, or PCMCIA01:17
paradizelostmumbles: try in #ndiswrapper01:17
mumblespcmcia01:17
paradizelostis your PCMCIA slot working?01:17
Jowimumbles: check here http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to see which driver you need to load01:18
mumblesit works under lwindows01:18
mumbleserm windows01:18
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amphimumbles: that is not relevant ;)01:19
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paradizelostmumbles: you have to have your pcmcia slot working in LINUX before the system can see the card you put in01:19
thoreauputicamphi: still doing the Nepal thing? You used to hang out in #linux, right?01:20
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amphithoreauputic: yeah - no, not there ATM - I'll be going in about a month, probably01:21
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thoreauputicamphi: ah! OK I remembered correctly then :)01:22
amphiindeed ;)01:22
mumblesparadizelost - it says that all the drivers are there and workign01:22
amphithoreauputic: you were .au IIRC?01:22
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paradizelostmumbles: show me the line01:23
thoreauputicamphi: yup. Still am :)01:23
paradizelost!paste01:23
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL01:23
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amphimumbles: does 'sudo ifconfig -a' show the interface?01:23
mumblesone sec. just firing up xchat so i dont have to keep chaning screens01:24
kingspawnamphi: every time you talk to "mumbles" I read your lines as really grumpy :) "amphi mumbles: I am really tired of this now..."01:24
[lastnight] what repositories are 'safe' to use after a default install? everything in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?01:24
[lastnight] or just a few of them01:24
[lastnight] and what about adding extra  repositories ?01:24
paradizelost!repositories01:24
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:24
paradizelost!suppositories01:24
ubotuparadizelost: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:24
lindsayi'm having a problem with my video, i recently installed ubuntu from the cd i just downloaded, then it told me to update, now when i reinstalled all the text is messed up and barely readable01:25
thoreauputickingspawn: amphi is an old hand :) And a helpful one at that01:25
kingspawnthoreauputic: hehe, yeah, just looks so funny :)01:25
[lastnight] there are a few comments in the /etc/apt/sources.list file almost warning against using some of the repositories01:25
paradizelostlindsay: what video card you using?01:25
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amphikingspawn: heh01:25
lindsayum, i'm not sure it's a laptop01:25
paradizelostlindsay: are you using breezy or dapper?01:25
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thoreauputickingspawn: I'm the grumpy one01:25
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[lastnight] i mean , can we trust the binaries served  by those operating the repos?01:26
lindsayi'm not sure of that either01:26
kingspawn[lastnight] : the official ones? indeed.01:26
kingspawnthoreauputic: hehe01:26
lindsaybreezy01:26
steveirecurrently my NTFS partition has the boot flag. Can I change that and does it matter01:26
steveire?01:26
paradizeloststeveire: do you still want to boot to windows at all?01:26
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[lastnight] kingspawn thanks, i hope you're right :  )01:26
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steveireyep. sometimes01:26
gleesondanyone have a good website for buying ram?01:27
paradizeloststeveire: then i'd leave it as is01:27
kingspawnthoreauputic: *ouch*01:27
gnomefreakthoreauputic: where are the aliases for bash kept? ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc or ~/.bashrc~01:27
paradizelostgleesond: http://www.newegg.com01:27
thoreauputicgnomefreak: mine are in ~/.bashrc01:27
kingspawngnomefreak: files ending with a ~ are usually emacs backups01:27
steveirewhat would happen if I moved the flag to my linux partition?01:27
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gnomefreakok ty01:27
lindsayall the text and lines are solid, they are more dashed and spread apart01:27
paradizeloststeveire: if the system is booing now, i'd leave it alone01:27
amphisteveire: the 'bootable' flag?01:27
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gleesond(gnome 2.14)++01:27
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___gn0m3___hi01:27
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amphisteveire: linux doesn't care about the bootable flag01:28
___gn0m3___anyone know how i can get steam/counterstrike for ubuntu breezy01:28
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defendguindvd playback was working 2 days ago using totem gst  now i get the message that i dont have the proper plugin to play DVDs what update did this and do i need another plugin?  im using dapper01:28
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steveireThere is a star under boot beside my NTFS partition, amphi. I don't know what it;s for.01:28
defendguinmplayer can play dvds fine01:28
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AnsiChello01:28
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paradizelost___gn0m3___: you could try cedega01:28
___gn0m3___!cedega01:28
paradizelost!tell ___gn0m3___ about cedega01:28
mumbles_laptophttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1388201:28
___gn0m3___is it free?01:28
steveirewhat do you mean linux doesn't care about it?01:28
amphisteveire: I'd leave that - windows used to feel sad without it, dunno if it still does01:28
thoreauputicsteveire: I told you about an hour ago that it means windows is bootable01:28
paradizelost___gn0m3___: no01:28
___gn0m3___crud01:28
AnsiCi have reinstalled ubuntu this morning but synaptic do not find mplayer01:29
___gn0m3___anything free?01:29
paradizelost!mplayer01:29
ubotumplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106101:29
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steveireI must have missed that thoreauputic.01:29
pike_advise please, setting up the dhcp daemon i can just leave config file alone and edit /etc/default/dhcp and add the interface i want to right?01:29
mpmcI've got X working with TV out on my NV card but the TV output is black & white.. :(01:29
paradizelost___gn0m3___: could try wine, but it doesn't work so well for directx games01:29
amphi___gn0m3___: all those underscores are somewhat irritating01:29
thoreauputicsteveire: you seem to be a terrible worrier ;-)01:29
Jowidefendguin: totem is a bit wierd atm. try mounting your dvd. then go to Movie-OpenLocation and type in /media/your_mountpoint to see if that works01:29
amphiheheh01:29
defendguinok Jowi01:29
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steveireI'd call myself thoro in preparation01:29
mpmcAny ideas>01:29
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paradizelostmpmc: usually a sign your not using a good cable01:30
amphisteveire: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" ;)01:30
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___gn0m3___what happened?01:30
mumbles_laptopparadizelost,  - amphi   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13883 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1388201:30
___gn0m3___what u guys doing :] 01:30
popeympmc: outputting NTSC to a PAL TV or vice versa?01:30
lindsayparadizelost, all the lines and text are broken up and pixelated01:30
steveiregrand so... I'm still reading loads about partitions before I do anything though...01:30
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cafuegosomebody set up us the bomb!01:30
amphi___gn0m3___: your nick makes my display unaesthetic01:30
Jowiamphi: haha01:31
maxallenany advice on adding fonts to Xft?01:31
mpmcparadizelost: It was in colour when, I followed the standard clone version... (PAL-I).. I set it to PAL-I but It's black & white & I can see lines..01:31
paradizelostmumbles: looks to me like its working for you01:31
amphiJowi: seriously, I'm readying the oubliette01:31
CaptainMorganjeezum.. I haven't been here in awhile, how do I install thunderbird or firefox from the command line if I have the .tar?01:31
paradizelostmumbles: just have to configure it01:31
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popeympmc: are you sure it's set to RGB and not AV?01:31
thoreauputic___gn0m3___: I really frown on underscores, and []  {} ()\ etc in nicks - they look lame01:31
paradizelostmumbles: it's wlan001:32
popeympmc: the TV that is?01:32
thoreauputic:D01:32
mumbles_laptopparadizelost,  - thats the onbord wich dosent pick up most of the wireless networks01:32
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popeympmc: I have the same problem with my commercial DVD player and my TV - I have to switch inputs on the TV01:32
paradizelost___gn0m3___: not only do they look bad, but they are a pain to type01:32
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mpmcpopey: It's through SVideo...01:32
popeympmc: yeah, I know01:32
CaptainMorgan!firefox01:32
popeympmc: so is my tv01:32
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Jowiamphi: for just a second I looked at the TV then looked back at the screen again and though "what the *@! happened in the channel" :)01:32
CaptainMorgan!thunderbird01:32
ubotuI heard thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042701:32
lindsayparadizelost, is there anything i can update, it was working fine before i restarted after the update01:32
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mpmcpopey: How do I change the output?01:33
paradizelostlindsay: you'll need to know what type of card it is01:33
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popeympmc: I don't think you do, I think it's the TV that needs to be told to expect a different input01:33
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popeympmc: that's what I have to do on my Sony TV01:33
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popeympmc: or I get B&W01:33
paradizelostlindsay: what brand is it?01:33
CaptainMorganhow do I extract to run?01:33
thoreauputicJowi: you  know you are in trouble when you try to tab-complete the TV remote control01:33
thoreauputic;-)01:33
lindsayparadizelost, can i check it inside linux? because i can't find it on the case01:34
mpmcpopey: I've switched to RGB, there is no output..01:34
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Jowi:)01:34
popeythoreauputic: you know you've been on irc too much when you say "slash me needs a drink" in real life01:34
amphithoreauputic: there's a script for irssi which uses a dictionary to let you tab-complete every word ;)01:34
mpmcpopey: Blank screen..01:34
paradizelostmpmc: the cable doesn't have any bent pins does it?01:34
popeympmc: maybe it's not RGB01:34
mpmcNope No bent pins01:34
paradizelostlindsay: what brand is it? gateway, dell, ibm, lenovo, hp?01:34
popeympmc: but it's definately a setting on the tv01:34
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Flannelamphi: really?  I find myself trying to tab complete longer words, heh.01:35
thoreauputicheh01:35
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JowiCaptainMorgan: you need to be more precise than that01:35
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paradizelostpopey: i've had cables that were yellow on the ends not be good enough for vid. from a comp.01:35
CaptainMorgannoh.. that's not it.. tar -zxvf...01:35
Larsson-SwedenAdding vga=normal did not help.01:35
lindsayparadizelost, toshiba satellite M3501:35
CaptainMorganJowi, I just want to update from the 1.07 to 1.5001:35
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popeyparadizelost: I just have one svideo cable from my dvd to my tv01:35
popeyparadizelost: and one tv channel is set to AV the other is set to something else..01:35
thoreauputicamphi: I keep trying to tab-complete when I'm writing emails :D01:35
mpmcpopey: It isn't because, It works perfect if I use the Clone Option etc..01:35
CaptainMorganI thought I would install them separately, now Im second guessing..01:35
popeyok01:35
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amphiFlannel: yeah, really - it's on irssi.org, the file is dictcomplete.pl01:36
paradizelostlindsay: probably intel graphics then01:36
JowiCaptainMorgan: are you talking about thunderbird or firefox?01:36
paradizelostdid you do a dist-upgrade as well?01:36
CaptainMorganboth01:36
JowiLarsson-Sweden: dapper or breezy?01:36
amphithoreauputic: and using zsh just makes it worse ;)01:36
mpmcpopey: I'll use the pastebin, So you can take a look..01:36
Jowi!firefox1.501:36
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:36
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lindsayparadizelost, what do you suggest?01:37
paradizelostlindsay: did you o a dist-upgrade as well?01:37
paradizelostor just what the little icon at the top suggested?01:37
paradizelostlindsay: have you tried changing your resolution?01:37
JonBoonIs there a particular site you prefer people buy the Ubuntu: from beginner to proffesional book from?01:37
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paradizelostlindsay system->preferences->screen resolution?01:37
paradizelost!book01:37
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost01:37
lindsayparadizelost,  yes01:37
mpmcpopey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13884 anything you can see?01:37
paradizelostlindsay: and what all do you have for choices there?01:38
lindsayparadizelost, it fixes the problem if it gets smaller like 600x80001:38
lindsayparadizelost,  600x800 up to 1200x80001:38
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paradizelostlindsay: as in you set the resolution higher?01:38
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paradizelostlindsay: LCD screens have what's called "Native Resolutions", a setting at which any below you go, the quality gets worse01:39
popeympmc: you in the UK?01:39
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mpmcpopey: yes01:39
popey:) me too01:39
lindsayparadizelost, when it's 1280x800 it's messed up, if i drop to 600x800 it looks smooth01:39
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lindsay=/01:39
mpmcpopey: Using an Alba crappy 14ich TV01:39
AviklundHallo01:39
popeympmc: that may be why01:39
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popeymy new sony doesn't do it, but my old one does01:40
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paradizelostlindsay: k.  when you have it at the 1280x800 what is the frequency?01:40
paradizelost60hz?01:40
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lindsayyea01:40
lindsaythat's the only choice01:40
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orbishwhat resolution are you trying to get?01:40
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maxallenI've installed the artwiz-aleczapka fonts on my computer, but I can't get GTK apps to access them, any tips?01:40
lindsay1280x80001:40
paradizelostdid you say M45?01:40
Jowilindsay: 60 is normal for a LCD monitor01:40
mpmcpopey: It works fine, If I follow the Wiki For the clone version & It works perfect as a Dual Screen on Windows01:41
lindsayM3501:41
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mpmcI'm gonna go insane01:41
AnsiCif i try to install mplayer-i686 using synaptic01:41
AnsiCmplayer-custom:01:41
AnsiC Dipende: libavcodec2  but it is not installable01:41
Jowilindsay: are you using the correct video driver? have you tried with the vesa driver?01:41
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orbishit could probably be fixed editing xorg.conf01:42
tahorgmpmc: why ? because it works fine ?01:42
orbishthat's how i fixed mine to work @ 1280x72001:42
lindsayno i havn't tried any other drivers01:42
HotDrivehi. can somebody tell me how to install more video codecs in ubuntu?01:42
paradizelostlindsay: i can't find anything, and it's been a LONG time since i've done anything w/ intel drivers01:42
paradizelost!codecs01:43
mpmctahorg: the problem is, I want to use the TV for watching films, Not as a clone..01:43
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories01:43
Larsson-SwedenJowi, im the guy with the vidix problem with fglrx driver. I am using dapper now, but had the same problem with breezy.01:43
popeympmc: change TVOutFormat to "Composite"01:43
JonBoonIs there a particular site you prefer people buy the Ubuntu: from beginner to proffesional book from?01:43
orbish!easysource01:43
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:43
paradizelostJonBoon: give it up already....01:43
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HotDrive!easysource01:43
CaptainMorganthanks jowi01:43
mpmcpopey: ok.. be right back01:43
CaptainMorgangot a link for tb now?01:43
popeympmc: upper case01:43
popey"COMPOSITE"01:43
Jowilindsay, orbish: I'm just being curious here; with a wide screen display, does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" give you the correct resolution options?01:43
AnsiCwhy libavcodec2 is not installable ????01:44
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JonBooni asked two times, go do something else01:44
maxallenso, any tips for installing fonts to Xft? I've been trying for the past two days, and so far have gotten nowhere01:44
vicente./server irc.cl01:44
orbishnot sure to be honest jowi01:44
orbishi'm really a newb01:44
popeyAnsiC: libavcodeccvs?01:44
thoreauputic!info libavcodec201:44
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orbishbut the best way for me to get my resolution was to google my resolution and xorg.conf01:44
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thoreauputicno such package according to ubotu01:45
orbishand looked through configuration files and edited mine accordingly01:45
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mpmcpopey: Rofl that fixed it!01:45
popey:)01:45
popeysee01:45
AnsiC!easysource01:45
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:45
popeyI knew it01:45
mpmcIn full colour :D01:45
popeyyou either had to tell the telly to do it or the computer01:45
popey:)01:45
mpmcThanks for the help :D01:45
popeyno probs01:45
JowiLarsson-Sweden: maybe you can have a look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs . sometimes a bug-entry there provide with a temporary fix as well.01:45
joedjanyone know how to tell 'mencoder' to output files suitable for VCDs?01:45
paradizelostjoedj: try man mencoder01:46
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Jowiok orbish01:46
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Jowiubotu, tell lindsay about resolution01:46
stoftrunning dapper, where in the physical fs is "media:/"?01:46
joedjparadizelost: the man page isn't particularly helpful; it shares the same man page as mplayer01:47
amphijoedj: you'd be better off looking under /usr/share/doc/mencoder01:47
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Jowilindsay: check the link ubotu maybe it can help you out01:47
popeystoft: there is no media:/   there is /media/01:47
Wyredstrange01:47
amphijoedj: man mencoder isn't the easiest read ;)01:47
CaptainMorganjowi, how about thunderbird?01:47
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ihaveavirushow do i format my mbr in linux?01:47
Wyredjust looked and in the apps folder I don't have the run command01:47
amphiihaveavirus: what do you mean?01:47
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JowiCaptainMorgan: well, I'm using dapper atm so thunderbird is the latest for me. can't help there i'm afraid01:48
popeyback so soon mpmc ?01:48
popey:)01:48
pike_ihaveavirus: grub-install might be easiest01:48
ihaveavirusI want to remove the virus i have01:48
ihaveaviruswould that format it again?01:48
popeyhahaha01:48
popeyaccurate nick01:48
Wyredlol01:48
AnsiCwhere can i download win32codeccd01:48
Wyredtry running aegis01:48
AnsiCwhere can i download win32codecs01:48
thoreauputic!codecs01:48
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories01:48
maxallen!fonts01:48
ubotusomebody said fonts was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto01:48
ihaveavirusaegis?01:48
stoftpopey: If I write "media:/" in a konqueror window there are volumes. right click on a volume gives me a physical device name, but I want to work with the logical device name, the one shown in konqueror...01:48
tahorgihaveavirus: what virus is it ?01:48
MisterN!easysource01:48
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:48
thoreauputic!easysource01:48
tahorgihaveavirus: is it calld grub ?01:49
Wyredit's the antivirus programme that comes with ubunut01:49
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popeystoft: ahh, sorry, I don't use kde01:49
AnsiCbut were ??01:49
AnsiCthere is not codecs in this page01:49
amphiihaveavirus: just leave it there, ubuntu won't mind01:49
amphiihaveavirus: boot sector viruses are a rarity these days01:49
AnsiCParse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/www.ubuntulinux.nl/public_html/content/php/source-o-matic.php on line 20601:49
orbishthat easysource url isn't working01:49
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AnsiCthis is the page:01:49
AnsiCParse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/www.ubuntulinux.nl/public_html/content/php/source-o-matic.php on line 20601:49
ihaveavirusits not detected by nod32, but i reinstalled windows, and everytime i log in windows my system32 folder opens. Wich makes me think since i have a clean install it must be a virus01:50
stoftpopey: np, thnx anyway, stupid of me not asking in #kubuntu first.01:50
AnsiChttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:50
CaptainMorganis weatherbug the same on Win?01:50
lindsayit works with 1152x768 so i'll just leave it at that thanks for your help01:50
CaptainMorganim worried about sypware..01:50
CaptainMorganbut it's not possible right?01:50
gnu2it2is there a simple mail system that supports smtp, pop3 and imap?01:50
AnsiCthere is not win32codecs in this page01:50
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popeygnu2it2: evolution?01:50
paradizelost!w32codecs01:50
syndicate47what's the best way of getting computers on a network to share downloaded packages?01:50
amphiihaveavirus: I very much doubt you have a bootsector virus01:50
popeysynak: apt-catcher01:50
paradizelost!tell AnsiC about w32codecs01:50
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Wyred!tell Wyred about w32codecs01:51
gnu2it2popey: i need server side for small home network01:51
popeygnu2it2: mutt?01:51
ihaveavirusamphi, but i know for sure if i do it will be gone if i format my mbr right?01:51
popeygnu2it2: oh sorry, a mail server?01:51
gnu2it2y01:51
CaptainMorganno problemo jowi, i used the wiki.. dummy me01:52
popeygnu2it2: dovecot for imap server and postfix for smtp01:52
ihaveavirusamphi,  I don't know why this folder opens in windows, and ive ran all the online scanners, and user nod32 and a squared01:52
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amphiihaveavirus: you can never be sure ;) see http://www.acm.org/classics/sep95/01:52
tattersbytes /sec    = 1,700,474  how many MB per sec is that?01:52
gnu2it2postfix is working,, but not getting my imap from uw-imapd01:52
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Jowicool CaptainMorgan01:52
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AnsiCtks01:53
popeygnu2it2: personally I use exim4 for smtp, teapop for pop3 and dovecot for imap01:53
AnsiCi finded the codecs01:53
mmmiiikkkeeewhen i boot up the process the says 'configuring network interfaces' and that process never ends... so i ^C to kill it ever thing starts up but i have to do 'sudo ifup rausb0' to start my wireless01:53
gnu2it2popey: so no simple all in 1 vendor solution?01:53
popeymmmiiikkkeee: do you also have an ethernet device onboard your machine other than the usb device?01:53
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ompaulsteveire, its all really cool, and you won't be the first to do this fantasic thing :-)01:54
popeygnu2it2: not really that I know of01:54
steveirepartitioning?01:54
popeygnu2it2: but they're all pretty easy to setup for a home network01:54
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Oldhow do i give full access to a user named cz in the map /home/cz, he should be allwoed to delete files, upload, etc01:54
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mmmiiikkkeeeyea there is an on board ethernet01:55
amphiihaveavirus: just reinstall your boot loader if you want01:55
duraOld, man chmod and man chown01:55
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popeymmmiiikkkeee: is it plugged into anything? if not, that's why the delay01:55
popeymmmiiikkkeee: if you're not using it you can disable it01:55
pike_help pike plz: im trying to setup a dchp server like: modem--ubuntu--othercomputer i have 2 nics eth0 and eth1 ubuntu uses eth1 to connect to modem i want to connect other comp to eth0 i declared eth0 in /etc/default/dhcp and put a simple subnet declaration in dhcpd.conf.  but dhcpd -f says no subnet declaration for eth1.01:55
mmmiiikkkeeeits not pluged in and it _IS_ disabled01:55
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mmmiiikkkeeeits not a delay it hangs NEVER stops01:55
popeymmmiiikkkeee: disabled in BIOS or in Ubuntu or both?01:56
mmmiiikkkeeei disabled it in ubuntu01:56
mmmiiikkkeeei can try the bios too... but i dont think this is the ethernet causing this??01:56
popeywhat's the problem? the delay?01:57
mmmiiikkkeeeit gets stuck on configuring network interfaces01:57
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popeyyes, that will be one of your network devices01:57
mmmiiikkkeeeis there a way to look at its log file to see what it was doing at the time?01:57
eugman+p How can I see all the processes running from the terminal?01:58
popeyeugman: ps -ef01:58
dedalushi i try to uninstall gnome-games cause i'm little short on my hard disk and it says it gonna uninstall gnome01:58
popeyeugman: ps -aux01:58
amphieugman: ps aux01:58
popeywhat he said01:58
popeyhe?01:58
dedalushave you already seen that ?01:58
amphidedalus: that's probably just a meta-package that 'includes' the games package01:59
mmmiiikkkeeethe wireless is the only one enabled... so it must be that one... but i knwo it works cause after startup i can 'sudo ifup rausb0' to make it work instantly01:59
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popeydedalus: have you cleaned up your apt repository, that'll free up some space.. "sudo apt-get clean"01:59
dedalusamphi that's the same for abiword and gnumeric01:59
popeydedalus: not surprising01:59
ihaveavirusin fdisk is hda the mbr or hd0?01:59
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dedaluspopey yes apt-get autoclean and rm *.deb /var/cache/apt/02:00
popeydedalus: delete from trash?02:00
mumblesany hints on getting a wlan setup properly ?02:00
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CaptainMorganshoot, how do I change the opening of thunderbird so that it opens from an icon? right now it only opens by command line.. I want both options..02:00
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mmmiiikkkeeehow do i look at the log files of what it was doing at start up when it says 'configuring network interfaces'02:00
dedaluspopey, what ?02:00
amphidedalus: do apt-cache show gnome and see if it says it's a metapackage02:00
popeydedalus: there's a lovely app for kde called filelight which shows where your disk space has gone.. shame - if you install it, it will install kde libs which will chew up more space02:01
popeydedalus: not really what you want :)02:01
eugmanHow do I select applications without the mouse?02:01
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amphimumbles: ifconfig, iwconfig, iwlist, /etc/network/interfaces, ...02:01
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popeyeugman: ALT+F102:01
dedaluspopey i'm gonna try cause i've already have kde libs02:01
popeycool02:01
popeyit's very nice02:01
amphieugman: alt-ctrl-f1 if you're in X02:02
Oldhow do i give full access to a user named cz in the map /home/cz, he should be allwoed to delete files, upload, etc02:02
amphieugman: but you mean gui stuff perhaps?02:02
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lasindiHi all, I am looking at getting a PPC Mac on which I'm going to install Ubuntu/Kubuntu. Since I do 3D game programming, I was wondering: what is the state of OpenGL-acceleration for graphics drivers in PPC Linux? I know that NVIDIA doesn't release any PPC drivers, so is ATI the way to go?02:03
popeyamphi: i think he means how to get the menu up02:03
amphipopey: ah... I thought you were directing him to a console ;) (I don't use gnome myself)02:03
popey:)02:03
popeyif he's done CTRL+ALT+F1 we may have lost him for good now.. ;)02:04
amphiheh02:04
JowiOld: see the line "Umask 022 022" in the proftpd.conf?02:04
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CaptainMorganok, this wiki is incorrect.. just messed up everything concerning thunderbird02:04
gnomefreakCaptainMorgan: what wiki?02:05
CaptainMorganhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion?highlight=%28thunderbird%2902:05
slackernlasindi, i haven't got any knowledge about ppc but the ATi drivers are much worse than Nvidias so not quite sure what to answer :)02:05
gnomefreakwhat happened?02:05
CaptainMorganI can't open thunderbird ow02:05
popeylasindi: indeed, binary drivers for linux for ppc are few and far between02:05
amphiCaptainMorgan: just use mutt like decent folk ;)02:06
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CaptainMorgani have my previous settings from the older version and i want to place thme in the new folder but I don't know where that new folder is...02:06
slackernlasindi, you would be much better of with a regular x86 processor and an nvidia card.02:06
joedjamphi: not seeing much in /usr/share/doc/mencoder either02:06
popeyslackern: you can't tell mac people that!02:06
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CaptainMorganolder version is not functional, and the new one won't open from an icon02:06
popeyslackern: next you'll tell him to get an Intel mac :)02:06
amphiCaptainMorgan: ~/.mozilla-thunderbird? ~/.thunderbird?02:06
slackernpopey, of course i can otherwise i would lie :)02:06
popey:)02:06
gnomefreakCaptainMorgan: did you use the symlink?02:06
amphijoedj: did you install the mplayer-doc package?02:06
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paradizelostwhatever you do, don't open an xterm and type just    # cat /dev/urandom02:07
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paradizelost:D02:07
lasindislackern: well, bad drivers are better than no drivers. ;-)02:07
PhoulExcuse me the dist upgrade command is what?02:07
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gnomefreakPhoul: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:07
Phoulodd...02:07
Phoul*looks at code*02:07
amphiparadizelost: why not?02:07
CaptainMorganpopey, it's bashing me.. saying it's a directory...02:07
slackernlasindi, thats true, but it might not be fun if they crash on you in the middle of some work or something, i was thinking like that.02:07
popeylasindi: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html note lack of ppc drivers02:08
lasindislackern: part of why I'm looking at getting a PPC machine is so that I can port the program I'm working on to PPC Linux and resolve any issues like endianess02:08
Phoulsudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade02:08
Phoulwhats wrong with that line then02:08
lasindipopey: yeah that's what I looked at too02:08
joedjPhoul: the dist-upgrade isn't run as root02:08
gnomefreakPhoul: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:08
slackern'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'02:08
popeylasindi: you're screwed I'm afriad02:08
duraor apt-get upgrade02:08
mpmcHmm.. I seem to be missing something, Whenever I launch something it doesn't appear in the task bar :s02:08
amphilasindi: you could use qemu if you just need to test for endianness issues02:08
paradizelostit really does some funky shiat02:08
joedjamphi: i did now. no change to what's in /usr/share/doc/mencoder-k602:08
duraapt-get upgrade doesn't do major system packages iirc02:08
slackernsorry it should be dist-upgrade as gnomefreak said.02:09
CaptainMorganoh..02:09
popeyamphi: he still won't get 3d acceleration though02:09
amphijoedj: look under /usr/share/doc/mplayer then perhaps02:09
CaptainMorgannevermind.. got it02:09
amphipopey: indeed not - but you don't need that to check for endian issues ;)02:09
duraFor some reason apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade do different things.02:09
CaptainMorgani have two files, one mozilla-thunderbird and the other thunderbird... just gotta copy now..02:09
LinuxJonesdura: apt-get upgrade upgrades all your packages that you have installed02:09
joedjamphi: this looks a bit more substantial :)02:09
popeyamphi: you don't know his app ;p maybe he does02:09
lasindiamphi: ooh, you're right; but I'm also looking at porting to OS X from Linux, so I can't use OS X under emulation02:10
amphijoedj: there's a section on vcd/svcd creation02:10
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joedjamphi: ah yes, i see it now02:10
popeylasindi: what language?02:10
amphilasindi: proprietary fun :(02:10
duraLinuxJones, What does apt-get dist-upgrade do then?02:10
lasindiamphi: indeed, silly Apple02:10
duraFrom my expierence.. apt-get dist-upgrade installs/upgrades more stuff then apt-get upgrade02:10
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lasindipopey: C++02:10
LinuxJonesdura: dist-upgrade is for upgrading to the next major release (which might have some new software requirements, and will install additional components as necessary)02:10
amphijoedj: you'll need vcdimager (vcdtools?) and cdrdao too (it's a while since I messed with vcd)02:10
duraahh okay02:11
duraMakes sense then...02:11
ihaveavirusi always run dist-upgrade02:11
duraI do both every morning02:11
popeyLinuxJones: that's not technically true02:11
ihaveavirusspecially cause im on dapper02:11
senarehello all i got a quikie ... how do i play a mp3 from command promt ? (no graphical gui ...)02:11
lasindipopey: by the way, are there *any* ATI PPC drivers with acceleration?02:11
duraafter apt-get update of course02:11
duraihaveavirus, How is that?02:11
popeylasindi: dunno, i have an nvidia dell02:11
LinuxJonesdura: yeah basically you only do a dist upgrade every 6 months or so :)02:11
tattersbytes /sec    = 1,700,474  how many MB per sec is that?  1 7mb or 1.702:11
duraI got another box for testing... was gonna install it02:11
ihaveavirusits great im running compiz:D02:11
popeyLinuxJones: no!02:11
duraLinuxJones, hehe02:11
LinuxJonespopey: ok so how does it work ?02:11
popeyLinuxJones: I dist-upgrade every day02:11
tattersor 170 kb02:11
ihaveavirusbut samba is broken02:11
duraihaveavirus, Nice02:11
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Jowisenare: mpg12302:12
duraBah who needs samba...02:12
popeyLinuxJones: upgrade upgrades packages without installing new stuff02:12
amphilasindi: the xorg drivers have 3d accel up to R280 radeons02:12
LinuxJonespopey: what distro are you using ?02:12
duraGet rid of windows02:12
dura:)02:12
senareoki thanx !02:12
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popeyLinuxJones: dist-upgrade upgrades and pulls in new dependancies if required02:12
popeyLinuxJones: doesn't matter it's the same on all debian based distros02:12
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ihaveavirusI would if there was yahoo voice chat for linux:D02:12
ihaveavirusi still dual boot02:12
LinuxJonespopey: like I said right ?02:12
slackernlasindi, not sure but maybe matrox has something to offer?02:12
lasindiamphi: okay thanks, I wasn't going to get a high-end Mac anyway, so that should work02:12
gnomefreakupgrade wont grab kernels among other things02:12
popeyLinuxJones: no, you indicated you only do dist-upgrade to do a "major release" upgrade, which isn't true02:12
amphitatters: FFS, are you still asking that? 1.7 million bytes ~= 1.5MB02:12
CaptainMorganBOOM! got it.. alright thanks to the helpers. cheers02:12
lasindislackern: haven't looked into it; does Apple sell Macs with Matrox cards?02:13
amphilasindi: man radeon has the details02:13
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slackernlasindi, http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/3rd_party/home.cfm i was just checking here and saw both linux and ppc02:13
dibblegocan CD/DVD Creator burn a CD ISO image?02:13
popeylasindi: aren't ppc macs going away? do you *need* to port to them?02:13
tattersyup lol thnx hmm 1.5 is way slow02:13
slackernand i remember matrox atleast used to be very nice on linux machines, but that may have changed.02:13
popeymmmm matrox pahrelia triple headed goodness02:14
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LinuxJonespopey: umm, if your using the development version which nobody in here is techincally supposed to be using, dist-upgrade is ok. There is no need to do it on stable release of ubuntu02:14
amphidibblego: dunno, but you can easily do it with cdrecord02:14
lasindipopey: perhaps not, but PPC is still cool02:14
durahttp://lfs1.no-ip.org and http://duralnux.no-ip.org02:14
Stormx2How do I change the group of files in a directory in terminal?02:14
popeyLinuxJones: it's *irrelavent* what you're on02:14
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duraA friend has a site up here also... I'm hosting for him02:14
ihaveavirusdura, what type of servers do you run?02:14
popeyLinuxJones: dist-upgrade works the same on every single one02:14
ihaveavirusoh02:14
amphilasindi: and there's still pegasos (if they're still going)02:14
ihaveavirusoops02:14
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duraihaveavirus, Well... everything heh02:14
duraapache, ftp, nfs, samba, ntp, bootp02:14
Lornyguess whos back agai02:15
LinuxJonespopey: well if features and new components are frozen why dist-upgrade in Breezy ?02:15
GTroy!eggdrop02:15
ubotuGTroy: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:15
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slackernStormx2, 'sudo chown <user>:<group> *' without <>02:15
popeyLinuxJones: why not?02:15
Stormx2Lorny: is it... you?!02:15
Lornyi have a dual boot question02:15
gnomefreakLorny: ask02:15
Stormx2slackern: Cheers, but I figured chgrp did that too :02:15
WarHi .. How can I configure the spell-checker on a other language than the default .. lets say gnome be on  English and the spell checker on Spanish...02:15
slackernStormx2, aye, theres a couple of approaches to it :)02:16
LinuxJonespopey: because nothing new is being implimented and an upgrade will suffice02:16
Lornyok so I had ubuntu installed first and then installed 2000 prof...02:16
ihaveavirusdura, are you an entrepeneur?02:16
popeyLinuxJones: every machine I own does an "apt-get update && apt-get -d dist-upgrade" overnight, every night02:16
Lorny(on seperate drives)02:16
duraihaveavirus, Ehh... sort of02:16
duraWhy?02:16
gnomefreakLorny: you need to install grub again02:16
Stormx2Oh god, WIKI PAGE!02:16
popeyLinuxJones: not always the case02:16
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Lornyexcept um02:16
Stormx2!grub02:16
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting02:16
Lornyi can boot ubuntu02:16
Lornybut not windows02:16
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gnomefreakLorny: windows first ubuntu sec is the best way to go02:16
ihaveavirusdura, I was looking at one of your sites.. saw alot of adds02:16
duraLorny, Be thankful ;)02:16
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duraihaveavirus, Which site?02:16
gnomefreakLorny: you need to reinstall grub02:17
mpmcPopey: Did you get my message...?02:17
gnomefreaklol dura02:17
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Stormx2Lorny: Oh wait thats different02:17
popeympmc: ?02:17
Lornyi've tryed following the wiki02:17
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Stormx2Lorny: Yeah you basicly need to reinstall grub02:17
duraany rather02:17
ihaveavirushttp://duralnux.no-ip.org02:17
Stormx2Lorny: That wiki is for a different situation02:17
Lornyand it erm... doesnt help02:17
Stormx2Lorny: The exact opposite of yours actually02:17
duraihaveavirus, oh... those aren't adds just links.02:17
mpmcpopey: I sent you 2 Private messages02:17
popeympmc:  I don't read them, get too many02:17
ihaveavirusoh ic02:17
duraihaveavirus, I made the images02:17
Lornyso how do I get windows to boot now?02:17
mpmcOk..02:17
jiping02:17
LinuxJonespopey: -d only downloads the packages not install them02:17
jipinghi02:17
jipingeverybody02:17
ihaveavirusyou don't make money of the clicks duck ?02:17
ihaveaviruserr dura02:17
popeyLinuxJones: I *know* that!02:17
duraLorny, Hang on I"ll toss upa grub.conf (menu.lst) for you to look at02:18
popeyLinuxJones: it emails me every day, and i choose whether to install or not02:18
dedaluspopey, filelight is great !!!02:18
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gnomefreakLorny: i think sudo grub-install or sudo install-grub should fix you <cant remember what order its in> or you need to manully add windows to grub02:18
popeydedalus: it's lovely isn't it :)02:18
dedalussure02:18
|warz|Hi .. How can I configure the spell-checker on a other language than the default .. lets say gnome be on  English and the spell checker on Spanish...02:18
dedalusthat's great and really well finished02:18
gnomefreakiirc its grub-install02:18
mpmcpopey: I no longer have taskbar Items, when launching apps <_<02:18
Stormx2Lorny: Whats wrong with the wiki page? >.< If you figure out what drive name/partition your Win2K install is on, you can just add it in.02:18
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ihaveavirusanyone know the command to make firefox the default browser in gnome?02:18
popeympmc: screen resolution problem?02:19
Stormx2Hi jiping!02:19
LinuxJonespopey: whatever, ask an Ubuntu dev what you outta be using I don't really care if you dist-upgrade. The convention is you use apt-get upgrade noty dist-upgrade on stable releases.02:19
orbishany ideas on how to get my SPDIF out working?02:19
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gnomefreaknight all02:19
ihaveavirusciao02:19
dibblegoihaveavirus: from Firefox, Edit->Preferences->Default Browser02:19
Jowibye gnomefreak02:19
ompaulcheers gnomefreak02:19
ihaveavirusty dibblego02:19
gnomefreakcheers ompaul02:20
popeyLinuxJones: they're my boxen, I'll do what the hell I like with them thank you very much02:20
amphiLinuxJones: dist-upgrade can pull in new packages, which upgrade will not02:20
popeyamphi: I tried to tell him that02:20
mpmcpopey: Nope, It instead decides to add the item to the other screen's taskbar, but loads on the default monitor :s02:20
amphipopey: ah ;)02:20
popeympmc: you want both monitors on at once?02:20
popeympmc: i think that's working as designed02:20
ihaveavirusbrb i need  a restart02:20
slackernihaveavirus, you could go to System->Preferences->Prefered Applications also.02:20
Lornyand how would I go about adding it in Stormx202:21
popeytime for bed02:21
popeynn02:21
mpmcmpmc: Yes, but, I have no taskbars.. If I minized something, I can't get it back.. :s02:21
duraLorny, http://duralinux.no-ip.org/config02:21
LinuxJonesamphi: I know that but the stable release doesn't have major upgrades requiring a dist-upgrade otherwise apt-get upgrade is irrelevent and would be depreciated and removed.02:21
mpmcOMFG02:21
amphiLinuxJones: eg., a new version of mplayer could be 'held back' in an upgrade, because it now depends on a new lib package; dist-upgrade would install the new package and upgrade mplayer02:21
Stormx2Lorny: Do you know the drive num/partition nun?02:21
popeympmc: can't you run just one screen?02:21
duraTake a look at menu.lst and grub.conf02:21
popeyno LinuxJones not true02:21
amphiLinuxJones: no, but people use other repos for such as mplayer02:21
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mpmcI'm going insane, I'm messaging myself now :s02:21
LinuxJonesamphi: is mplayer in Ubuntu base ?02:21
popeyLinuxJones: upgrade is there so you can upgrade packages and know that no new stuff will arrive02:22
duralol02:22
amphiLinuxJones: nope02:22
Deterministi need someone to do a lookup for deter.ath.cx and tell me the up address you get, if you can please02:22
popeyLinuxJones: dist-upgrade is there so you can be sure you get the latest of every package02:22
ompaulmpmc, turn off the window manager, i.e. log out and log in again, that can resolve things like that02:22
popeyLinuxJones: you really need to read up about apt02:22
Jowimpmc: right click on the taskbar and add a thing for listed windows02:22
amphiLinuxJones: it can't be, because of US legal b0rkage AFAIK02:22
Jowimpmc: (sorry, not using gnome so i forgot the name)02:22
popeyLinuxJones: I have additional repositories so your "nothing new arrives" argument doesn't apply02:23
mpmcJowi: thanks that sorted it02:23
mpmcSorry, for being a pain in the behind people...02:23
popeympmc: I don't think you were02:23
Jowimpmc: that's what this channel is for if i'm not mistaken :)(02:23
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amphimpmc: if you're much mistaken, that's what the channel is for02:24
mpmcHaha, I've only been really using Linux for a week & a bit.. & I'm already talking to myself!02:24
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durampmc, When you start getting answers, worry...02:24
Jowimpmc: that's what medications are for (as dura hinted on)02:25
lasindiamphi: Do know what the state of 3D acceleration for the ATI RagePro is on PPC?02:25
amphilasindi: I can say with confidence that I don't02:25
duraPPC ATi drivers are... sketchy02:26
popeylasindi: the open source drivers are "ok" but there is no binary driver from ATI02:26
mpmcJowi:Ahh earth grooves ^^02:26
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lasindipopey: "ok" meaning 3D acceleration?02:26
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OldJowi02:26
Oldhey02:26
OldIm back now02:26
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LinuxJonespopey: I know what your saying, my system works just fine as yours does I'm sure. If you want to add 3rd party repos that's your business. Ubuntu base is limited for a reason, you can't support 19,000 packages and universe and multiverse isn't supported software.02:27
ompaul!enter02:27
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.02:27
amphilasindi: I would think the xorg drivers would work similarly as on x8602:27
popeyLinuxJones: give it up please02:27
Lorny:(02:27
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amphiLinuxJones: debian manages ;)02:27
mpmcOk, Here's a real idiotic question for you people, How to I reply to someone (Starting with their name) without copying & pasting.. (using Gaim)02:27
Jowihey Old. how is the stuff working?02:27
LinuxJonespopey: you started this foolishness and I am having a few beers and need some entertainment :)02:27
durampmc, hit tab02:28
popey*sigh*02:28
duraLike m*tab*02:28
amphimpmc: tab-completion? if not, use a decent client (like irssi;)02:28
popeylasindi:  Up to the 9250 for xorg 6.8 and earlier.02:28
mpmcPressing tab does nothing!02:28
durapopey, For AMD64 also?02:28
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durampmc,02:28
popeylasindi: Up to the 9700 and 9800 for xorg 6.9 and later, with bugs.02:28
duraWhat cleint are you using?02:28
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mpmcGaim02:28
listernerubuntu!02:28
duraheh02:28
LinuxJonesamphi: of course folks in here will help people with Univer/Multiverse software if they can. That's jsut a great community02:28
popeylasindi: Same as the open drivers for x8602:28
Remysifn't use x-chat02:29
OldJowi, I cant seem to give the user cz FULL access to /home/cz02:29
orbishwhat's the best way to configure alsa?02:29
duraI'm not sure Gaim has tab support for it's IRC client02:29
popeydura: pretty much the same yes02:29
paradizelostdura: yes it does02:29
duraorbish, alsa-setup02:29
paradizelosti'm using it now02:29
duraparadizelost, Okay...02:29
orbishhmmm not found02:29
paradizelosteach room s a tab, plus each pM is a tab02:29
paradizelost!gaim02:29
ubotugaim is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto02:29
duraOr is it alsa-config... can't remember02:29
amphiLinuxJones: I meant Debian, not #debian02:29
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duraparadizelost, He's was asking how to tab complete names in here02:30
paradizelostdura: yep, mine des.02:30
paradizelostdoes02:30
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popey\o/ xchat02:30
LinuxJonesamphi: I wouldn't go into #debian ever again, even for a date with Halle Berry :(02:30
amphio/~ irssi o/~02:31
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amphiLinuxJones: you've felt the love? ;)02:31
mpmcparadizelost: Using tab does nothing, Ctrl+tab moves between tabs :s02:31
amphimpmc: get a decent irc client already ;)02:31
paradizelostmpmc: you may need to check your irc options in preferences02:31
Cooner750Hello. I wanted to try out the KDE Display Manager without having to install Kubuntu. Can I do this? And can I go back to Gnome if I dont like KDE?02:31
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duraCooner750, apt-get install kde02:31
Cooner750what about Gnome?02:32
duraYes you'll be able to go back to Gnome02:32
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JowiOld: is the user in the ftp group? did you change the "umask" value in proftpd.conf?02:32
duraYou'll have a menu to choose what you want to loose...02:32
xOrphenochxhello, i seem to have a problem with gtk2, i have the dev packages, but nothing sees them when i do a configure02:32
durause*02:32
dura:|02:32
Oldi didnt Jowi02:32
xOrphenochxerr updated dapper this week02:32
Oldwhat should i change the umask thing to?02:32
paradizelostthere are some extra GAIM plugins in the repositories that add enhancements for rooms02:32
duraxOrphenochx, Check your $PATH02:32
popeyxOrphenochx: sudo ldconfig ?02:32
xOrphenochxyeah i did sud ldconfig02:33
LinuxJonesamphi: I got into so many arguments with the 10 retards harning out in there like mwilson I wanted to smash someone's head in. It was too frustrating dealing with big egos, tho there are some great people in that channel !!02:33
xOrphenochxo+02:33
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duraxOrphenochx, That's not the path02:33
OldJowi, what should the umask be ?02:33
amphiLinuxJones: ah, mwilson...02:33
duraxOrphenochx, look at ~/.bashrc02:33
duraor /etc/bashrc02:33
orbishalsa-setup: command not found ???02:33
duraldconfig updates library locations in a special database02:33
LinuxJonesamphi: thankfully we pushed him out of here with his trolling :)02:33
duraorbish, Try alsa-config02:33
duraor alsasetup or alsaconfig02:34
amphiLinuxJones: he's banned from #debian AFAIK02:34
duraI can't remember off hand... could always google it02:34
JowiOld: you could try changing "umask 022 022" to "umask 770 770"02:34
OldJowi, and no i didnt add the user to the group ftp.02:34
LinuxJonesamphi: that was due like 4 years ago :D02:34
amphiparadizelost: your trolling skills are pathetic, if I may say so02:34
Oldkk02:34
ompaulparadizelost, that would be considered trolling and this is not a conversation channel, it is a ubuntu help channel, and #ubuntu-offtopic has people in it that talk about things such as that02:34
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orbishalsactl, alsamixer, alsamixergui are the only alsa commands i have02:34
duraI got banned from #debian02:34
xOrphenochxsigh, what am i looking for?02:34
Oldhow do add the user to the group ?02:34
durafor some reaosn02:34
JowiOld: type "groups cz"02:34
duraOld, usermod02:34
paradizelostoh, fine, nm.....02:34
paradizelosti was trying to be funny...02:34
OldJowi, yeah and? :D02:35
Oldit answered with cz : cz02:35
duraOld, usermod02:35
Olddura, im talking to Jowi02:35
JowiOld: if "ftp" is listed there then it is in the group02:35
Oldits not listed02:35
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_harmCan someone help me out, i want to convert a harddrive from SFS to FAT32 is this possible without losing anyfiles?02:35
Oldhow do i add it to the group then Jowi ?02:36
amphi_harm: highly unlikely02:36
dura_harm, Make a backup first02:36
paradizelost_harm: you can copy the data to a different hard drive, format the old one, and copy data back02:36
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JowiOld: "adduser the_username ftp"02:36
duraOr usermod -g <groupname> username02:36
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JowiOld: or what dura said. same thing different methods02:36
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_harmamphi dura and paradizelost, i cannot make a backup (size=70GB) > but cant i just convert the file system?02:37
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dura_harm, No02:37
_harmdura... Dang :S this makes me sad02:37
dura_harm, Find a way to make a backup, stick with the file system that's there, or deal with the data loss.02:37
_harmdura but u can chance FAT into NTSF without data loss02:37
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duraShould *always* have a current backup anyway02:37
OldJowi02:37
paradizelost_harm: no, you'll have to backup and reformat02:37
aktiv[b] is there any command to replace all spaces with _ in a bunch of files?02:37
amphi_harm: I'd say not02:38
Oldgives me alot of permission denied when i try to enter folder02:38
Oldfolders*02:38
dura_harm, Yes... but NTFS and FAT32 aren't like linux file systems02:38
Oldshould i perhaps restart the server?02:38
Oldthe ftp server?02:38
mpmcOk, I'm using Xchat now :D02:38
paradizelost_harm: IIRC, that's the SecureFIleSystem i.e. encrypted02:38
duralol mpmc02:38
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xOrphenochxso what am i looking for, dura?02:38
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amphisomewhat ;)02:38
JowiOld: ok, first of all. what did you change (if you did change) the umask value to?02:38
McNutellaello folks :)02:38
Cooner750still installing KDE....02:38
paradizelost_harm: also, those are both WINDOWS filesystems, and M$ has made the programs to make the conversion02:38
duraxOrphenochx, What file are you looking at?02:38
_harmparadizelost iam aware of that but i dont want the encrypted stuff anymore cuz i cant seem to be able 2 write to it02:38
Oldthe thing you said02:38
McNutellawhen a new version of ubuntu comes out. would i have to do a fresh reinstall, or will I be able to install dapper-drake over 5.10?02:39
Oldor, erm02:39
Oldone secnod02:39
xOrphenochxbashrc was empty, and i dont know what to look for in my .bashrc02:39
amphiMcNutella: you will be able to dist-upgrade02:39
OldUmask                                770 77002:39
bradley_i am using a wireless router that has a built-in fire wall does any one know how to alter it. (it seems to be blocking torrents)02:39
McNutellaamphi: so thats pretty easy to acheive ?02:39
duraxOrphenochx, Compare the path in bashrc to where GTK2 is actually located in the file system, and if the path to GTK2 isn't listed, add it.02:39
paradizelost!upgrade02:39
ubotumethinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.02:39
durabradley_, Depends on the router...02:39
durasome can not be changed02:39
amphiMcNutella: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade should do it02:39
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OldJowi, still gives a few permission denied...02:39
paradizelostamphi: that won't do it if he isn't configured to use dapper...02:40
xOrphenochxok how would i add it?02:40
bradley_dura-- it is a d-link airplus xtreme g02:40
paradizelostohh, nm misunderstood the ?02:40
amphiparadizelost: if he has 'stable' in his sources.list...02:40
duraxOrphenochx, open the file with a text editor using sudo02:40
JowiOld: and you are using a normal account and not a anonymous account?02:40
Oldnormal account02:40
Oldthe CZ account02:40
McNutellaso lets try this again, will I goto the webpage, or will I apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade02:40
paradizelostbradley_: you do  # route                   and then you open the default gateway's ip address in firefox02:41
amphiparadizelost: or does ubuntu not use that?02:41
Cooner750The partition Ubuntu is on is the only one that could fill up, correct? It's not going to overwrite other data?02:41
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amphiCooner750: yes02:41
mumblesstill no luck02:41
amphiCooner750: and no ;)02:41
Cooner750it takes forever to setup kde, and this is on a 2.2Ghz Athlon XP w/ 704MB RAM02:41
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Oldbrb a few minutes Jowi, going for a smoke and a cup of coffee, let me know what todo. i get alot of permission denie ddwhen i try to enter a few folders in /home/cz , the umask is what you told me02:41
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bradley_what is '# route' and the 'gateway's ip address'?02:42
amphiCooner750: thus I use openbox ;)02:42
durabrb02:42
xOrphenochxand the stuff i "add"02:42
amphibradley_: the ip address of your router02:42
Cooner750Now, KDE is done. Do I log out or restart?02:42
paradizelostbradley_: the # notes you should be typing it on console02:42
duraxOrphenochx, Yes02:42
durado like nano -w ~/.bashrc02:43
xOrphenochxno, what "Is" the stuff i add?02:43
paradizelostbradley_: usually, the address is gonna be like 192.168.0.1 or something like that02:43
paradizelostbradley_: did the router come w/ a manual?02:43
duraMake the changes, save, exit, log out and back in02:43
duraxOrphenochx, The path to gtk202:43
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duralike /usr/share/gtk2 or whatever it is02:43
Cooner750A router web access is usually 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.102:43
xOrphenochxoh ok, thought it needed something else02:43
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jay_sidehey guys02:44
bradley_i found the ip-- and i am looking for the manual now02:44
duraxOrphenochx, nope...02:44
paradizelosthey jay_side02:44
mpmcpopey: How do I kill the second Xserver for the TV?02:44
jay_sidehow do i gain access to root user on Ubuntu live02:44
paradizelostbradley_: the ip is the big thing02:44
durajay_side, sudo02:44
paradizelosttype that address into firefox02:44
Warlord384ugh02:44
paradizelostas the address02:44
popeympmc: second x server?02:44
jay_sidedura ok thanx02:44
Warlord384everytime someone says jay it highlights02:44
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popeympmc: it's one server isn't it?02:44
Cooner750Should I restart or log out/in after installing KDE?02:44
bradley_no just a quick install guide02:45
duraCooner750, Just logout02:45
mpmcpopey: I dunno, I just wanna kill the TV screen..02:45
Cooner750brb. Hopefully this works. What about my current applications?... Do those work in KDE also?02:45
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eneriedhello, anybody knows if is there any irc here about fedoracore?02:45
aktiv[b] how can you deactivate/ignore/unmount a single usbdevice ?02:45
paradizelosteneried: try #fedora02:45
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duraeneried, /join #fedora02:46
lwizardlhi02:46
amphieneried: #fedora perhaps?02:46
popeyaktiv[b] : right click the icon on the desktop and eject/unmount?02:46
jay_sideeneried try #linux-noob02:46
jay_sidethey are mostly about fedora02:46
amphiaktiv[b] : sudo umount /mount/point02:46
lwizardlwhere is the best place to install jre ?02:46
Cooner750br02:46
Cooner750b02:46
popeylwizardl: are you using make-jpkg ?02:46
ompaul!java02:47
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:47
bradley_how do i open the default gateway's ip address (or maybe what is a default gateway)?02:47
lwizardlno just using it to run a java app02:47
jay_sideafter i do sudo what do i do to gain access as root level user?02:47
paradizelostbradley_: the ip address you found02:47
aktiv[b] yeah but it's not mounted, its an usb keyboard02:47
popeybradley_: route  will tell you what the default gateway is02:47
paradizelostbradley_: type that into the address bar of a web browser02:47
eneriedthanks boys i'll try02:47
popeyaktiv[b] : just unplug it02:47
jay_sideonce i do sudo the terminal asks me to enter another flag02:47
durajay_side, try typing sudo passwd02:47
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jay_sidedura got it!!02:48
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jay_sidety dura02:48
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satanwhats the command to install xubuntu to the harddrive from the livecd?02:48
durayw02:48
Cooner750Ok.. I logged out and back in and it just loads Gnome like normal...?02:48
duraCooner750, Youhave to choose KDE from the session menu02:48
snakkaanyone have an external drive (USB or firewire) they like?02:48
Cooner750Oh. Let me try again02:48
Cooner750brb02:48
paradizelostsatan: i don't recommend that02:49
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bradley_i typed it in but it said that the connection was refused02:49
paradizelostbradley_: try the instructions the manual tells you02:49
durasnakka, yes I do02:49
satanparadizelost: no, eh?02:49
aktiv[b] no see i have one keyboard&mouse in an usbswitch which is connected to two computers, but the controlling software is for windows, so it is recognized as an usb hub, but if there is an commandline, I could make aliases to enable and disable it on the two machines02:49
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paradizelostsatan: i would use an install cd02:49
satanparadizelost: best to install from the install cd?02:49
snakkadura what brand?02:49
duraWestern Digital02:49
satanparadizelost: ok cool, any particular reason?02:49
snakkathx02:49
dura180gb 7200RPm USB 2.002:49
snakkawhat do you use for backup (s/w)?02:50
adambradyIs there anyway that I can back up my evolution email? I need to reinstall and don't want to loose my email.02:50
duracp and mv02:50
dura:)02:50
popeysatan: the website suggests the prefered method to install is NOT the install cd02:50
paradizelostsatan: there have been issues sometimes installing from livecd's02:50
snakkatres recherche!02:50
popeysatan: but the live cd02:50
paradizelostsatan: if your doing a new install i'd use dapper02:50
paradizelost!flight702:50
ubotuflight7 is, like, totally, available via http://www.ubuntu.com/testing, or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/02:50
satanparadizelost: yes it is a new install, xubuntu is dapper 6.06 right?02:50
snakkai was thinking of using mondo rescue cuz i have windows and ubuntu on the same disk02:50
popey"The desktop CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. This type of CD is what most people will want to use. There are three images available, each for a different type of computer:"02:50
jay_sideif i uninstall ubuntu is there anyway of clearing up LILO or GRUB from MBR so that only Windows loads02:50
satanpopey: oh really? that contradicts what paradizelost is saying though...confused02:51
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durasnakka, That may work.. I only bother backing up linux02:51
popeyjay_side: use the dos program fdisk - not the linux one "fdisk /mbr"02:51
popeysatan: that's what the site says"02:51
amphijay_side: consult your windows manual for how to restore the windows mbr02:51
duraI have one windows box that gets used for firewall/viri/trojan testing02:51
popeysatan: the graphical installer is very nice though :)02:51
popey(on the live cd)02:51
jay_sidepopey and amphi thanks guys02:51
satanpopey: ok02:51
jay_sidealso, is there a vpn client for ubuntu?02:52
snakkaif i had another system i would just use each for its own os02:52
popeyjay_side: yes, pptp02:52
durajay_side, Yes02:52
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jay_sideok thnx guys02:52
durasnakka, You could make partitions on the drive02:52
duraone for linux one for windows02:52
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durabrb daughter needs me02:52
Cooner750Ok. I got KDE working. Good. But what in the world happened to the theming of programs like Firefox and XChat here? It looks like Windows 9x02:52
snakkaoh i have that's how it works02:52
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xOrphenochxwell that didnt work02:53
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Cooner750anyone?02:54
adambradyanyone have any idea? If I copy all the files from home/username/.evolution/mail will that work?02:54
xOrphenochxlet me just resay whats wrong, configure cant find the gtk2 dev packages, ive had it working before i updated last week02:54
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__dante__http://monstersgame.it/?ac=vid&vid=1601940702:54
amphixOrphenochx: try #ubuntu+102:55
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JowiCooner750: KDE should have a setting for what should be done with programs that uses gtk themes.... check the control panel thing for kde and you will find it02:55
Cooner750The apps menu has full to the brim in each categorey because of KDE apps as well as ones from Ubuntu originally lol02:56
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RayFredPiphello,how to compile kernel?02:57
RayFredPipwhat's the newest version of kernel ?02:57
Tedd2.6.14 I believe.02:57
amphiTedd: no...02:58
popeyin ubuntu? or the plain kernel?02:58
amphiRayFredPip: see kernel.org02:58
popey2.6.16.16 at kernel.org02:58
RayFredPiphehe~~ Tedd no,it is 2.6.1602:58
Teddamphi, I said I believe for a reason :P02:58
popeyLinux hactar 2.6.15-20-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 4 18:37:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux02:58
amphiRayFredPip: install kernel-package for a start02:58
RayFredPipso how to compile the new one 2.6.16?02:58
popeythat's what I've got on dapper02:58
amphiRayFredPip: why do you need it?02:59
RayFredPipkernel-package? a tool?02:59
bradley_i am in to the 'fire wall rules tab'. there are a few places where i can add details-- the only one that makes sense to me is 'name action' which i can either enable or disable, allow or deny. what is an action?02:59
bradley_is it the specific program02:59
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RayFredPipamphi, need what ?2.6.16?because mine is old ,2.6.1202:59
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amphiRayFredPip: apt-cache show kernel-package - it's a tool for building kernel packages the 'debian way'03:00
popeyRayFredPip: but what do you *need* it for?03:00
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amphiRayFredPip: and what features of the new kernel do you require?03:00
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RayFredPippopey, it is a new one ,so I think it works more steadly than the old03:01
lwizardl!mp303:01
ubotusomebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:01
RayFredPipamphi, I don t know03:01
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popeyRayFredPip: you will spend a lot of effort for very little gain, there's no point if you have no reason to go to 2.6.1603:01
amphiRayFredPip: that is unlikely ;) do you have stability problems with the current kernel?03:01
lkj1How do I fix a "broken" package? Libc6 is broken according to synaptic.03:01
duraapt-get repair packagename iirc03:02
RayFredPipamphi, not really03:02
amphiRayFredPip: OTOH, if you want to build a kernel for educational reasons, go for it03:02
duraman apt for details03:02
amphiRayFredPip: but "if it ain't broke don't fix it" is a wise saying IMHO03:02
RayFredPippopey, hum...maybe there is actually no good reasons03:02
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lkj1LOL amphi, U R HO03:02
popeyseriously, since I've been on ubuntu I've not recompiled the kernel at all03:02
amphiRayFredPip: there's a [probably out of date]  howto at kernel.org03:02
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brokengunim installing ubuntu on my ibook tomorrow, im excited!03:03
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durapopey, Good03:03
eneriedlol03:03
amphiRayFredPip: er, at tldp.org03:03
duraI dual boot this laptop with ubuntu and Gentoo03:03
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durausing*03:03
durahehe03:03
RayFredPipamphi, I give up now03:03
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amphidura: gentoo broke your keyboard? ;)03:03
duraheh no...03:03
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durajust my mind...03:03
popeyRayFredPip: if you really must then read this.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto#03:03
RayFredPipamphi, I think it is not easy for me and it is dangerous03:04
duraActually, Gentoo hasn't broken itself in like 7 months now... must be some sort of record03:04
lkj1!uboto broken03:04
ubotulkj1: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:04
popeyRayFredPip: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageDetailedHowto and that03:04
RayFredPippopey, thanks03:04
amphiRayFredPip: you're unlikely to do worse than build non-booting kernel03:04
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myrenHElP!03:05
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steveireok.03:05
myrenmy keyboard map is $@~$@#'d up03:05
duraman this channel is busy03:05
durakinda nice for a change03:05
mpmcdura: It's the week end03:05
duraIndeed03:05
RayFredPipamphi, I hope not03:05
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Cooner750I cant seem to find the KDE control panel in the mess of a Application menu. Anyone know the command to bring it up?03:06
durais the new Ubuntu out for AMD64 also?03:06
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CuraltonCooner750: kcontrol03:06
dura<--- hasn't checked releases yet03:06
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=== mpmc Bored
durampmc, Install Gentoo03:07
duraThan you won't be bored :)03:07
mpmcdura: Ahem, thats way to hard for me03:08
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durampmc, Really? Not that advanced yet?03:08
mpmcdura: Nope03:08
duraMy first Gentoo install was Gentoo 1.1a back in 199903:08
duraon a Compaq US1800 laptop03:08
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durampmc, Got an extra box laying around for testing/learning?03:08
duraimo that's the best way to learn linux03:09
mpmcdura: Nope03:09
egg_howdy yall03:09
duraHello egg_03:09
amphiRayFredPip: kernel-package will make a nice deb of your kernel and modules that you can install with dpkg; if it doesn't boot/work, you can just reboot your old ubuntu install kernel03:09
durampmc, You should get one... an old PII 233 or something03:09
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amphidura: for gentoo? that'll be pleasant ;(03:09
egg_I'm new to Ubuntu (but not Linux)... how do I get headers and man pages installed?03:09
durampmc, I run my website on a Compaq Deskpro 4000... it has 96mb of RAM and a Pentium Pro 180MHz CPU... and two hard drives.03:10
egg_is there any magical package that will bring everething?03:10
orbishi loved gentoo, but hated the compile times03:10
duraegg_, apt-get install packagename03:10
duraorbish, Yeah that can get to suck after a while.03:10
mpmcdura: Nice.. I wish, I could do that..03:10
amphiegg_: manpages-dev I believe03:10
duraThankfully I have fast laptops03:10
egg_dura, ... this will take forever03:10
WhatTheDeuceHey.  What's a good Bit torrent client that works on Ubuntu?  I'm running the beta version, and azureus isn't working, so I need to try something else.03:10
duraegg_,  What would take forever?03:10
amphiegg_: and build-essential03:10
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AlinuxOSduck, fast? with 7200 rpm HD?03:11
duraegg_, Try apt-cache search foo to find a package name03:11
egg_installing every single developer package03:11
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amphiegg_: for what?03:11
duraAlinuxOS, The hard drive is attached to a Celeron 60003:11
AlinuxOSdura, fast? with 7200 rpm HD?03:11
AlinuxOSah03:11
duraI was referring to my laptops.03:11
sarixeanyone know how to get r-xr-xr-x on ntfs?03:11
orbishofftopic: i keep finding dog hair in my mouth, quite irritating03:12
AlinuxOSpermissions on NTFS? is it possible?03:12
sarixeum...03:12
durano03:12
sarixei hope03:12
sarixe...03:12
duraMTFS doesn't do permissions03:12
duralike that03:12
sarixeno03:12
NChiefyes, but not legal03:12
egg_well, for a start... I'm trying to compile a simple program that uses math.h03:12
duracopy what you need to a native linux partition and then do what you need to do03:12
sarixei mean mount it with the folder with r-xr-xr-x03:12
RayFredPipclear03:12
duraegg_, What package is math.h part of?03:12
mpmcrofl! Can any of you play HD on Ubuntu?03:13
sarixenot permissions on the files themselves03:13
egg_dura, good question... I allways found it installed by default in other distros03:13
sarixetry #include <cmath>03:13
duraegg_, Hmm... tried http://www.google.com/linux ?03:13
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egg_yep03:13
duraok03:14
duralet me check something03:14
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AlinuxOSmaybe someone knows some software similar to Dreamweaver MX?03:14
mpmcdura: What connection you got?03:14
WhatTheDeuceAlinuxOS: Nvu is pretty similar03:14
NoUseAlinuxOS you can try Quanta03:14
sarixeanyway, how do i mount ntfs with r-x permissions on the mountpoint?03:14
AlinuxOSnvu? I don't like it :/03:15
Cooner750Where do I change the settings it uses for Gtk?03:15
RayFredPipis there any good postscript viewer on ubuntu ?03:15
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Cooner750All gtk themed apps are very ugly03:15
AlinuxOSquanta...03:15
duraegg_,  http://ecos.sourceware.org/docs-1.3.1/ref/ecos-ref.15.html03:15
AlinuxOShm I'll try it!03:15
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skwidis there a gui to reconfigure grub ????03:15
amphiegg_: I believe you must link with -lm03:15
RayFredPipis there any good postscript viewer on ubuntu ?03:15
mpmc!kill03:15
ubotuhmm... kill is a command for getting rid of unwanted processes, usage: kill [-signal]  PID.  Signals are numbers: -15 is general exit, -9 forces quit.  See manual page for more.03:15
duraAlinuxOS, You may like NVU or Bluefish better03:15
amphiskwid: no03:15
skwidit can't find my windows partition anymore :S03:15
egg_I'm doing that03:15
mpmc<_<.. not that kill <_<03:15
durapkill03:15
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durakillall03:15
durakillall -903:15
RayFredPip!pkill03:16
ubotuRayFredPip: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:16
skwidamphi: how do i tell it to find my windows :)03:16
amphiRayFredPip: gv is ok03:16
AlinuxOSBluefish is not what you see is what you get. :(03:16
RayFredPipamphi, OK03:16
duraAlinuxOS, Oh didn't know you wanted a wysiwyg editor03:16
durasorry03:16
amphiskwid: perhaps your windows no longer exists ;) have a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst03:16
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AlinuxOSdura, ;)03:16
skwidamphi: yeah that's where i am03:16
amphiRayFredPip: the -spartan option is pleasant IMHO03:16
AlinuxOSdura where are you from ?03:16
duraI just use nano for web pages :)03:17
skwidtitleWindows XP Home03:17
skwidroot(hd0,0)03:17
duraOr emacs...03:17
AlinuxOSnano :D03:17
AlinuxOSlooolz03:17
skwidwhat should i change that to ?03:17
duraAlinuxOS, Minnesota03:17
amphiskwid: no03:17
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RayFredPipamphi, what is IMHO?03:17
duraI love nano... fast, small, easy to use...03:17
amphiskwid: did you change it?03:17
durain my own opinion03:17
amphidura: ugh03:17
dura?03:17
mpmcskwid: I got nicked for pasting :o03:17
skwidamphi: no, that's the entry that doesnt work03:17
amphiRayFredPip: 'in my humble opinion'03:17
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AlinuxOSand you don't know the meaning of your nick in russian I immagine :)03:17
goldenearhi03:17
duraAlinuxOS, No... dura is part of my yahoo ID... duralinux03:17
RayFredPipamphi, : )03:18
sarixe... anyone know how to get reading and executing permissions for an ntfs partition? i mounted it and it only does anything for root.03:18
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duraWhat does it mean?03:18
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amphiRayFredPip: install the bsdgames and use wtf, eg. 'wtf is IMHO' - a handy acronym dictionary03:18
skwidamphi: what do i need to change it to if my windows partition is hda5 ??03:18
duraAnyone seen MI III yet?03:18
pike__sarixe: umount it and remount like sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/something03:19
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amphiskwid: (hd0,4) - at last, an answerable question ;)03:19
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skwidamphi: nice, thx03:19
harisundHow will I know whether a package came from the universe, multiverse restricted or the main section? And whether it came from the regular breezy repositories, breezy-backports, breezy-updates or breezy-security?03:19
=== mpmc I curse you google for not having a russian translator!
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skwidamphi: if i don't come back, you should feel some guilt :)03:19
AlinuxOSdura, ;)03:19
amphiskwid: heh - you could always check with the grub docs ;)03:19
dura:)03:19
minimecharisund: Synaptic: Properties of the *.deb03:20
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awszadr03:20
harisundminimec no on the command line.03:20
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mpmcNow apart from being on the channel What else can, I do..?03:20
RayFredPipamphi, ah,really? so cool03:20
minimecharisund: Apt-cache search maybe....03:20
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HotDrivehi. need help instaling icons for programs in the desktop03:20
duraI wish apt had a better saerch feature...03:20
_jasonharisund: check the version number and use apt-cache policy if you still have those repos all enabled03:20
duraLike portage03:20
harisundminimec I have tried to check the output of apt-cache show03:21
_jasondura: what search feature are you looking for?03:21
duraharisund, apt-cache search foo |less03:21
harisundapt-cache policy eh/ I am trying that _jason brb03:21
awszadr03:21
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amphiRayFredPip: the 'is' is just syntactic sugar - you can just do 'wtf IMHO'03:21
harisund_jason awesome :) Thanks a ton03:21
dura_jason, hmm good question... I wo'nt remember until I try and find a package...03:21
dura<--- good memory just short03:21
AlinuxOSQuanta is more interestning :)03:22
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amphidura: what's wrong with apt? you can use regexes03:22
minimecharisund: _jason: Cool... I learned something ;)03:22
harisundseriously minimec :)03:22
AlinuxOSok dear people, I must go03:22
duraamac, Nothing at all... I like apt03:22
AlinuxOSseeya ! :)03:22
duraI just like portage better03:22
dural8r AlinuxOS03:22
durathanks for the info hehe03:22
AlinuxOSdura, ;D03:22
=== dura just might have to get a new nick lol
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duraWell.. time to go watch Munich with the g/f.03:23
duraFor the record, I'd rather be sitting here...03:23
dura.me *sighs*03:23
dural8r everyone03:23
amphidura: what did your nick mean in .ru? 'penis' or some such?03:24
FroxI'm having a bit of trouble with an install, if anyone is willing to help03:24
Gidget42Hey, i accidentally exploded a .tar file on my desktop and now have 2000+ files (*.nasl) and they wont go away03:24
duraamac, Worse heh03:24
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mpmcdura: tell all..03:24
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duraGidget42, cd ~/Desktop && rm -Rf *03:24
mpmcI wasn't paying attention :o03:24
duraUnless there is something on the desktop you want to keep03:24
Gidget42dura: u sure?03:24
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duraGidget42, Yes03:25
_jasonGidget42: that deletes everything on your desktop, so even stuff you had before03:25
Gidget42i'll try it. if it dont work i'll pm u ok?03:25
duraIt will work03:25
Gidget42ihave nothing on my desktop i wanna keep03:25
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Gidget42andits making my laptop lag balls03:25
duraUnless there is something on the desktop you want to keep it will be fine03:25
HotDriveanyone knows how to put icons in desktop?03:25
ab_hey everyone i need some help with locales03:25
duraYep then you'll be good to go03:25
dibblegoI have just downloaded an ISO but the MD5 doesn't match - can I use one of those torrent things or whatever to find and repair the damaged part of the file?03:25
durabbl03:25
ab_can anyone help me out?03:25
_jasonHotDrive: right click > create launcher03:26
_jasonHotDrive: or a lot of times you can just drag stuff to the desktop03:26
HotDrive_jason: I did that ut it won't work03:26
_jasonHotDrive: which way did you try?03:26
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ab_not to interrupt, but can anyone lend me a hand with fixing a locales issue?03:26
ab_please?03:26
_jasonab_: best to just state the issue you are having03:27
ab_ok03:27
HotDriveI installed Avast antivirus and tryed to drag to the desktop, and create a "launcher"...03:27
HotDrive...but nothing03:27
ab_error message: "dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed"03:27
_jasonHotDrive: use your middle click?03:27
ab_and: Generating locales...03:27
ab_  en.ISO-8859-1...cannot open locale definition file `en': No such file or directory03:27
_jasonab_: what command gives you that error?03:28
HotDrivemiddle click?03:28
_jasonHotDrive: try dragging witht he middle button03:29
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ab_the first error is from any of 10 different commands: gcc, locale-conf, locales, apt-get install, etc03:29
_jasonab_: what ahppens when you try dpkg-reconfigure locales?03:29
brettb_is there an easy way to uninstall compiz?03:29
brettb_i need to reinstall it03:29
ab_/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed03:29
HotDrivedon't have one...03:29
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minimecab_: Try to start your wm-session with UTF-8 and then try to fix the problem. That could do it...03:30
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ab_how do i do that?03:30
ab_i'm kind of a retarded newb\03:30
ab_hah03:30
brettb_lol03:30
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_jasonHotDrive: ok maybe you can be a little more specific about what you are doing?  where are you dragging from?03:30
Gidget42Dura: it doesn't work03:30
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_jason!doesn't work03:31
ab_minimec, how do i do that?03:31
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.03:31
minimecab_: I guess you can choose that in the 'language' sectieon in gdm.03:31
ab_um03:31
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Gidget42when i cd ~/Desktop && rm -Rf * it says "/user/bin/sudo arguement list too long"03:31
ab_meaning...03:31
_jasonGidget42: heh03:31
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Gidget42jason: can u help me?03:31
Gidget42i got like 2000+ *.nasl files on my desktop that wont go away03:31
Felas?ntfs03:32
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ab_minimec, how do i do the gdm thing?03:32
_jasonGidget42: find ~/Desktop -exec rm '{}' \;     <-- let someone check that03:32
brettb_lol03:32
HotDriveI installed the deb package and it works from the console03:32
Gidget42and anytime i try to rm, it says "arguement list too long"03:32
ab_minimec: how do i do the gdm thing?03:32
minimecab_: Log out... then login and choose another language. You will probably have a choise to switch to your prefferred language with utf-803:32
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HotDrivebut I want to have an icon on the desktop to activate the program03:32
ab_ah ok lemme try that03:32
_jasonHotDrive: what is the command from the terminal that you run?03:32
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gpdQuestion: why would two different network cards (tulip|intel) both ONLY work from the Dapper LIVE CD but not from the installed HD?03:33
HotDrivejust "avast"...03:33
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XenguyGidget42: try find with  'xargs' instead then03:33
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_jasonHotDrive: ok what does 'which avast' say?03:33
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Gidget42xargs? what are those?03:34
crimsun!upgrade03:34
ubotuhmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.03:34
HotDrivenothing... If I open a console and run "avast" it works03:34
HotDrivebut there is a gui for the program, but no icons on the desktop03:34
_jasonHotDrive: which avast    <-- that really should say something if 'avast' works, are you sure?03:34
skwidi still can't boot on windows :(03:35
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Gidget42that worked _jason u r the manimal03:35
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minimecskwid: Grub problem?03:35
XenguyGidget42: are you sure 'cd ~/Desktop && rm -rf *' won't work?03:35
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HotDriveyes, if I run "avast" in the console, the antivirus runs a scan03:35
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Felas!ntfs03:35
duckdownHey all.  Various programs (GAIM, XChat, a few others) are only offering me the choice (for sound) of "Console Beep" or "Command".  I don't know what command I'm supposed to be supplying for sound playback.  I am using Ubuntu-DAPPER03:36
ubotuwell, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions03:36
Gidget42xenguy: problem solved03:36
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skwidminimec: yep .. moved around my partitions with partition magic, and now the grub entry doesnt seem to work03:36
XenguyGidget42: ahh, good -- so -exec did work after all03:36
pike__HotDrive: 'which' tells you the directory the executable is in03:36
minimecduckdown: try esdplay yourfile03:36
Gidget42indeed03:36
duckdownminimec: Let me try that, thanks03:37
_jasonHotDrive: which avast  <-- those two words are a command I need you to run and tell me the output03:37
HotDriveI found the file that opens the GUI in /usr/lib/avast4workstation/share/avast/desktop03:37
HotDriveah! ok... :)03:37
minimecskwid: But you can boot on linux03:37
odysseyhello i have a wine probleme03:37
skwidminimec: yep, im here :)03:37
Xenguyodyssey: AA03:37
Apostle^go to alcoholics anonymous03:37
Apostle^haha03:37
minimecskwid: ;)03:37
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Xenguybaha03:37
skwidminimec: my grub entry is03:37
HotDrive/usr/bin/avast03:37
skwidtitleWindows XP Home03:37
skwidroot(hd0,4)03:37
_jasonHotDrive: ok, that is the command you want the launcher to run?03:38
duckdownminimec: Hrmm, I don't have 'esdplay'03:38
duckdownwhat is it from?03:38
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HotDriveok, I'll try it03:38
minimecskwid: Can you mount the partition?03:38
skwidyep03:38
skwidon /dev/hda503:38
odysseywine doesnt want to start its installed but no go , do you have a better emulator other than wine to run dvd decrypter03:38
brettb_so will someone attempt to help me?03:38
brettb_is it hard to uninstall compiz?03:39
minimecduckdown: Yes. Wait. You have to install another deb. It's a gstreamer thing. Google esd ubuntu...03:39
HotDrivenope... don't work03:39
duckdownminimec: Hmmm ok thanks03:39
minimecskwid: So what is your grub entry?03:39
skwidi pasted it03:39
mpmcbrettb_: What are you trying to do?03:39
Xenguyodyssey: check out 'k9copy' BTW03:39
minimecduckdown: esdplay ubuntu ;)03:40
skwidroot(hd0,4)03:40
brettb_er wtf03:40
pike__ok guys ive got dhcpd working for eth1 now. i just need to 'route' ;p traffic to eth0 so other comps can connect to web. whats the next step?03:40
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minimecskwid: is that all?03:40
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Ademantell ademan about root03:40
skwidminimec: well no, for the windows03:40
odysseyok thanks is it better than dvd shrink or decrypter03:40
Ademandamn03:40
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Ademanis there a way to enable root?03:40
_jason!tell Ademan about root03:41
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brettb_mpmc: im trying to uninstall compiz. i want to do a fresh install..03:41
HotDrivethere is a file called "install-desktop-entries.sh". Is it possibleto run it?03:41
Ademanah thanks jason03:41
brettb_because a lot of my settings dont work03:41
Xenguyodyssey: well it is similar software for linux, should do the job in most cases :-)03:41
mpmcbrettb_: Sorry, I wasn't reading.. on the UB forums03:41
odysseythanks xen03:41
minimecskwid: Your grub entry is not complete.03:41
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Xenguyodyssey: let me know what you think, I'm still playing around with the DVD stuff myself03:42
skwidminimec: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ot0xjJ24.html that's my file03:42
Ademanalso, with httpd, it says that it shoudl obey symlinks... but i created a link to a folder and it says access forbidden when i try and use it through firefox03:42
b7sus4how can i install a mouse?03:42
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HotDriveor is there some aplication in Ubuntu that looks for installed programs/files and install them in the desktop?03:43
dum03:43
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odysseyok right now i still revert back to xp and use dvd shrink and burn with nero703:43
amphiskwid: that's all you have for the windows entry?03:43
NoUseb7sus4 what kind of mouse?03:43
dwhats a good program whree i could download illegal music and movies?03:43
NoUseb7sus4 ps2? usb?03:43
skwidamphi: what else do i need ?03:43
amphid: cat03:43
minimecskwid: Has your windows a own harddisk?03:43
odysseyim trying to get ride of xp all together03:43
skwidminimec: no03:44
amphiskwid: try appending a line 'chainloader +1' after the line 'root (hd0,4)'03:44
d:)03:44
b7sus4NoUse, ps2 i believe.....it is the lod mouse with the screws03:44
skwidamphi: it's there03:44
mauperwhat should I say: nero is good basic movie editing ... but for all other burning tasks: k3b :)03:44
skwidamphi: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ot0xjJ24.html03:44
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odysseybut the probleme is that i want to run  il2 stormavic online with teamspeak on03:44
minimecskwid: We are stupid. You mount it as hda5 ;) Why don't you boot on 5 ;)03:45
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NoUseb7sus4 thats a serial mouse, it has 9 pins?03:45
slackernpike__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShareInternetConnection maybe this will help.03:45
ab_hey all, i'm back03:45
ab_so loggin in/out didnt fix the locales issue03:45
amphiskwid: what error do you get?03:45
mauperwhere is the kick and ban for "d" ? ;)03:45
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b7sus4yes03:45
skwidminimec: what do you mean ???03:45
skwidminimec: when we have hda1, we boot on 0, no ?03:45
noiesmopike__, checkout firestarter its a gui for configuring firewall and nat03:45
dwhat did i do wrong?03:45
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b7sus4NoUse, yes03:45
ab__jason, can you help me out?03:45
skwidamphi: filesystem something .. i didnt copy it down03:45
pike__slackern: at this point it cant hurt thx03:46
NoUseb7sus4 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto try that03:46
di dont call it p2p...GET OVER IT03:46
Wyredhi i'm having problems with K3B03:46
mauperd: I refuse to quote you ...03:46
dmauper: i dont call it p2p...GET OVER IT03:46
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Wyredeverytime i'm trying to burn a new cd image, it crashes03:46
_jasonab_: did you try the dpkg-reconfigure locales command?03:46
amphiskwid: try changing 'root' to 'rootnoverify'03:46
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Wyredor rather freezes, it's beginning to think it's Windows Software i'm sure03:46
amphiskwid: and get the error message if there's another ;)03:46
mauperd: jeez, steal what you want but don't bother us ...03:46
dmauper: is the word p2p any better?03:46
minimecskwid: you boot on (hd0,4)... But you moun t/dev/hda5...03:46
skwidminimec: yeah, what's the problem ? :(03:47
ab__jason: yes i did, i get this error:03:47
ab_perl: warning: Setting locale failed.03:47
ab_perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:03:47
ab_        LANGUAGE = (unset),03:47
ab_        LC_ALL = "en_US",03:47
ab_        LC_PAPER = "en_US",03:47
ab_        LC_ADDRESS = "en_US",03:47
ab_        LC_MONETARY = "en_US",03:47
ab_        LC_NUMERIC = "en_US",03:47
mauperp2p isn't equal to downloading copyright protected stuff03:47
ab_        LC_TELEPHONE = "en_US",03:47
slackern!paste03:47
ab_        LC_MESSAGES = "en_US",03:47
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL03:47
_jasonab_: don't paste here :/03:47
ab_        LC_IDENTIFICATION = "en_US",03:47
noiesmoab_, dont paste03:47
ab_        LC_COLLATE = "en_US",03:47
ab_        LC_MEASUREMENT = "en_US",03:47
NoUse!ops03:47
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!03:47
ab_        LC_CTYPE = "en_US",03:47
ab_        LC_TIME = "en_US",03:47
noiesmoab_, cut it out03:47
ab_        LC_NAME = "en_US",03:47
ab_        LANG = "en_US"03:47
ab_    are supported and installed on your system.03:47
amphid: I agree that the term p2p is pretty silly- what is http if not p2p? ;)03:47
mpmcAb_: Ahhh!03:47
ab_perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").03:47
adiabaticI don't think he can stop.03:47
ab_locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory03:47
ab_locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory03:47
ab_locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory03:47
mpmcKILL03:47
ab_/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed03:47
mpmcKILL03:47
minimecskwid: So you could try to boot (hd0,5). Am I wrong?03:47
ab_sorry03:47
ab_first time here03:48
mauperab_: aaaaaaaargh03:48
ab_sorry, shit.03:48
mpmc:'(03:48
chowellsamphi: client-server03:48
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amphimpmc: calm down ;)03:48
noiesmoab_, piss off03:48
skwidminimec: i think it's one less right ?03:48
NoUseab_ then you should read the /topic03:48
ab_i'm fucking sorry!!!03:48
vipoethehe03:48
slackern!language03:48
HedgeMagenoiesmo: Mistakes happen03:48
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.03:48
mpmcamphi: k..03:48
noiesmoab_, dont be sorry dont do it03:48
d:p anyway i was being a smartarse i will call it proper name from now on03:48
mauperthe manners in this channel have degraded ...03:48
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amphichowells: well, yeah, that too ;)03:48
Cooner750Is it possible to remove the Gnome package now, as I seem to like KDE more after I got gtk-qt installed03:48
Cooner750?03:48
noiesmoHedgeMage, yeah thats no mistake thats stupidity03:49
mpmcEveryone take a chill pill..03:49
adiabaticI've tried to find the SSH key setup wiki page, but Google isn't helping me. Can someone point me to the "how to set up the whole charging up SSH-agent with your keys" page?03:49
ab__jason, any ideas?03:49
minimecskwid: nope. It depends what you have... Primary partitions... logical...03:49
ab_and i promise not to paste anymore03:49
dab_: the "fuck" word is even worse than flooding watch out...03:49
ab_got it03:49
skwidminimec: ho, i just changed the windows partition from a primary to a logical03:49
amphinoiesmo: I'm sure we'll all recover from the trauma03:49
skwidcould that be the problem ?03:49
ab_haha ok03:49
dtaken me 3 weeks to get back in here03:49
noiesmoamphi, no I'm scared for life ;)03:49
HedgeMagenoiesmo: I seem to recall a certain network staffer who accidentally did "/voice -yes *" in here and couldn't do anything about the 10 minutes of voice notices scrolling by once she'd done it.03:49
HotDrivestill ni icon working in the desktop... help...03:49
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minimecskwid: Try to boot hd0,503:49
mauperif the f*ck word where the only problem ...03:49
minimecab_: Did you have some kind of success?03:50
mpmcCan someone give me the sources line for opera?03:50
amphinoiesmo: oh, well, the trick cyclists have to earn a crust too ;)03:50
ab_minimec: with what?03:50
minimecab_: the utf-8 thing?03:50
mpmc!opera03:50
noiesmoamphi, haha03:50
ubotuopera is, like, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser03:50
amphiminimec: hd5 is (hd0,4)03:50
amphiminimec: er, hda503:50
ab_minimec: i logged in and out, as you said, selecting a different language option, but that didnt fix the error i pasted above03:50
ab_minimec: is there a way to reset all locales stuff?03:51
minimecab_: sorry.. so I can't help you.03:51
ab_minimec: thanks anyway03:51
ab__jason: ideas?03:51
minimecab_: Try to reinstall the locale package...03:51
ab_minimec: how?03:51
ab_apt-get?03:51
amphimauper: what else is troubling you?03:51
minimecapt-get or aptitude03:52
Wyredhmm, anyone else had problems with k3b? seems everytime i'm trying to burn a new CD image it's freezing03:52
minimecab_  apt-get or aptitude03:52
mauperamphi: me, barely nothing :)03:52
minimecamphi: I do agree I am wrong. I see that now ...03:53
Cooner750is is possible to repace the Gnome login manger with KDM?03:53
ab_minimec: tried that, but i get 100 lines of errors that look similar to the locales error03:53
amphiskwid: can windows boot from an extended partition? I'm sure it won't like having its little drive letters messed with in any case; you might want to look at the map option of grub03:53
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ab_minimec: then it quits saying errorrs were encountered while processing locales03:53
amphiskwid: is it grub or the legacy os that gives the error?03:53
mauperWyred: dapper ?03:53
skwidamphi: i think its grub03:53
skwidill look again03:53
noiesmoWyred, did you do k3b setup and is your user a member of burning or cdrom group03:53
skwidi think i screwed everything up :(03:53
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amphiskwid: did you try with rootnoverify instead of root?03:53
Wyrednoiesmo, yes mauper no, i'm trying to burn FC5 for my work pc03:54
amphiskwid: only the legacy os by the sound of it ;)03:54
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minimecab_: This is not good. But as I sad. I don't believe I can help you then.03:54
_jasonab_: consider dpkg-reconfigure --force locales, don't do this with someone else agreeing it's not a really bad idea03:54
Ams_NYHey guys03:54
_jasonwithout*03:54
Ams_NYand galz03:54
skwidamphi: ill reboot03:54
skwidbe right back03:55
Wyrednoiesmo, it won't even load now03:55
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mauperWyred: did you try the k3b setup as was asked before ? And did you upgrade your packages recently ?03:55
Wyredmauper, yeah, i've just finished updating and rebooted03:56
mauperWyred: the k3b setup too ?03:56
Wyredfinally it's let me in03:56
Wyredsetting up03:56
Ademanhow do you create a group and add users to it?03:56
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nullcan anyone point me in the right direction for a problem i'm having with doom3?  I am experiencing "pauses" durring the play (like the game freezes for a second or two)03:57
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Ademancrappy comp?03:57
noiesmoAdeman, sudo groupadd && useradd -g username groupname03:57
Ademani had no idea they even had a linux doom3 port03:57
amphiAdeman: man adduser describes both03:57
roe__can anyone give me some advise with the fglrx driver?03:57
HotDriveI tried to install the file "install-desktop-entries.sh" ut I have an error...03:57
pike__Ademan: doom halflife id is very good about linux support03:57
amphiroe__: avoid like the plague, if you can ;)03:58
noiesmoAdeman, sudo groupadd groupname then  useradd -g username groupname03:58
roe__hehe, :)03:58
roe__too late03:58
Ademanroe__: dont use it :-)03:58
marc-antoineis someone know where I can fond an wesnoth RPM for unbuntu 5.10?03:58
Ademanit took me literally a week to get it working03:58
HotDrive"unary operator expected"?03:58
Ademanmaybe even two03:58
_jason!info wesnoth03:58
Ademanunary = one operand03:58
ubotuwesnoth: (fantasy turn-based strategy game), section universe/games, is extra. Version: 1.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1591 kB, Installed size: 4432 kB03:58
roe__I have it working, I just want to tweak the xorg.conf file to get the correct dual head display03:58
pike__er not halflife quake03:58
Wyredmauper btw whats the Burnfree option?03:58
_jasonubotu: tell marc-antoine abotu universe03:58
amphiroe__: tldp.org might have something03:58
AdemanHotDrive: it means it only expected one operand03:59
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nullAdeman : yeah it came out not long after the game. and my comp is fine for the game, runs at a smooth ~60 fps but just out of nowhere I get like a 2 second pause (no HD activity durring this so its not loading something from the disk)03:59
HotDriveis there a way to correct this or is a file error?03:59
marc-antoinethanks03:59
AdemanHotDrive: fix the code03:59
HotDrive??03:59
amphiWyred: "support for Buffer Underrun Free writing" according to man cdrecord03:59
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Ademan*.sh is a script file03:59
Ademanfix the script04:00
elusivecan anyone try to help me with bluetooth on dapper drake?04:00
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Wyredwell in the set up section and can't see anything that needs changing04:00
amphiWyred: only some drives would appear to support it04:00
Wyredso should remove?04:00
HotDrivedon't know how... just want to put an icon in the desktop to run a program...04:00
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Ademannull: hrm, is it possible you've got something like a stock ticker or some other gnome applet that periodically updates and chews through your resources?04:00
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idefixwhen ftp-ing, how do you upload everything in the directory including subdirectories?04:01
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Wyredahh stuff it04:02
Wyredit's fried04:02
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roethe tldp doesn't have info on configuring a virtual display using the aticonfig04:03
roeand the ati web site is a joke04:03
skwidamphi: Invalid device requested04:03
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idefixparadizelost but I don't have this FTP client..04:04
nullAdeman : no.  i have a pretty clean setup going on.  not even any cron jobs.  strange thing is the sound from the game keeps kicking fine durring these graphics hangs too. and the interruptions are not consistant... i may get like 5 in a min, then not get any for 5 mins (tested running around in circles in a room to avoid new textures being a culpret)04:04
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Ams_NYhey guys04:04
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lukeis there any way I can disable one users access to the internet completely?04:05
Ademannull: very strange, i guess your card COULD be heating up a bit? i dont know that's so strange...04:05
Ademannull: ignore what i just said thats utterly rediculous, are you SURE you don't have any background proccesses that might be eating resources (even unexpectedly)04:06
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NullifiedWeird that two people called "Null" one being myself are experiancing GFX problems, However mines under windows...04:07
cseteAnyone have any CUPS configuration background?04:07
nullAdeman : heh now that I think about it, I'm gonna try calling tech support.  I just bought the game like an hour ago, and they did provide a linux client of it.  and no overheats... im sure on the background processes, I can watch my cpu usage when not in the game and it stays at like 0 to 2% max04:07
Ademanhow do you change a file's group owner?04:08
NoUseAdeman chown :groupname file04:08
cseteI'm trying to print "raw" from Windows.  It is complaining about application/octet-stream not being a supported format and yet I have those uncommented in mime.typs and mime.conv.04:08
elusivecan anyone please help me with bluetooth?04:08
Ademanthanks NoUse04:08
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nullAdeman actuialy i correct that, its at like 5% since I have been in here, and thats mostly from crap in firefox that I am trying to pull up as well..  and use "chown 'user':'group' 'thing to change'04:09
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pherolol04:10
pheroubuntu is rubbish04:10
pheroubuntu is rubbish04:10
pherosuper super rubbish04:11
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Kyral......04:11
KyralBAN!!04:11
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KyralBAN BAN BAN!04:11
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elusivehelp lease, help04:11
noiesmocrimsun, thanks04:11
KyralYea!!04:11
Ademannull: thanks04:11
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Ademanwtf... can users in a file's group not modify it?04:11
crimsundepends on the group permissions04:12
Ademani just did "chown g=rwx www"04:12
Ademanwell... sudo but yeah04:12
NoUseAdeman I assume you meant g+rwx04:13
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AdemanNoUse: = doesnt work?04:13
Ademanthat explains that then...04:13
Ademanlol04:13
siimohi just tryingto remember when backports went official? do the official mirrors have much of hoary backports?04:13
NoUseAdeman + adds permissions, - takes them away04:13
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Ademan= just plain sets i believe04:13
Ademanbut i'll try +04:13
Ademan(looking at the file with right click-> properties showed group permissions read write and execute all set...04:14
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dWhat linux p2p apps do people use?04:14
dWhat linux p2p apps do people use?04:14
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NoUse!repeat04:14
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.04:14
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chowellsAdeman: + to add permission, - to take it away04:15
noiesmod try frostwire04:15
dcool i will04:15
adambrady@Anyone know anything about Evolution Email Client?04:15
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siimo..04:16
Ademanwell my way worked... and either way, the permission string was "drwxrwxr-x" and i can't modify the damn file (and yes i'm in the group)04:16
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NoUseAdeman did you just add yourself to the group?04:16
noiesmoAdeman, whats the permission on the file thats a directory permission you just posted04:16
dadambrady: what would you like to know?04:16
elusivecould anyone help me with bluetooth?04:16
greenmanwhy should I choose ubuntu?  I'm moving away from gentoo.  (too much work needed to upkeep it)04:17
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AdemanNoUse: i added myself to the group before i changed the group ownership04:17
noiesmoAdeman, maybe try chown -r users:group directory04:17
amphigreenman: because the releases have 'cutesy' names? ;)04:17
NoUseAdeman you might need to re-login for the group assingment to take affect04:17
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Guest_790hey can anyone help me install ubuntu, i keep having problems, even running it from livecd04:17
Ademanah, alright i'll try that, thanks04:17
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greenmanamphi: nice.  :)  What release is it now?04:17
Ademanis there any like "flush" command that would have the same effect though?04:18
adambradyD: I need to back up my Mail so I can reload Ubuntu. I cant find an export function.04:18
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Guest_790Everytime I try to run livecd or run the install cd, it starts running, asks me what type of install, then the screen turns black04:18
Guest_790and nothing nappens04:18
greenmanwow.  I asked the same question in #fedora and they jumped down my throat04:18
AdemanGuest_790: are you on a laptop?04:19
Guest_790yes04:19
Guest_790a toshiba04:19
Ademan*swish*04:19
slewhi. when i right click on a wmv and go to properties it says 'building propterties window' but that window never happens. i want gxine to open wmv files, is there another place to set that option?04:19
Ademangimme 30 seconds04:19
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Guest_790k04:19
noiesmoadambrady, I just made a copy of the mail directory in the users home folder .mozilla-thunderbird then copy it back once thunderbird set back up04:19
adambradynoiesmo: will it do the same thing using evolution?04:20
dadambrady: and the mails arent on the server?04:20
Ademanwhen the livecd or the installer comes up04:20
Ademanhit f204:20
adambradyd:no i didnt leave a copy04:20
Ademanit should give you some options04:20
Guest_790ok04:20
dILL FIND YOU EVOLUTIONS MAIL DIRECTORY ONE SEC04:20
noiesmoadambrady, dont know I only use Thunderbird sorry04:20
dsorry for the caps04:20
Ademanthere should be one (in f1-f6) that says "fixes laptop display problem"04:20
Guest_790oh really? sweet04:21
Ademanyeah04:21
Guest_790and that should fix the problem?04:21
Ademanjust check f1->f604:21
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Ademanhopefully04:21
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Ademanyou'll end up typing something like "linux <the option>"04:21
whiterim trying to remove opneoffice but the two packages left depend on each other so they dont want to remove, any way to do that?04:21
Ademanif it doesnt fix it come back04:21
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Guest_790ok, cool. i'll try it right now04:22
amphigreenman: basically, it inherits much of the benefits of debian, while being easier to install and having more recent packages04:22
Guest_790thanks04:22
adambradyI should just be able to copy home/USERNAME/.evolution/mail shouldn't I04:22
greenmanwhat are the benefits of debian?  I know a lot of people use04:22
Ademanno problem04:22
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dadambrady save the directory ~./.evolution/mail/pop/*YOUREMAIL* somewhere u can copy it back once finished04:23
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amphigreenman: see http://www.us.debian.org/intro/about04:23
mikebothow can i save a file on an ntfs partition?04:23
dick-richardsonis anyone familiar with http cache cleaner?04:23
paradizelostmikebot: use windows04:23
dick-richardsonyou can't really04:23
dikebot how can i save a file on an ntfs partition?    Windows???04:23
adambradyd thanks alot04:23
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wizaynehi all04:24
greenmanmikebot: it's risky even if you can.  You risk wiping the drive04:24
amphigreenman: also http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian04:24
dick-richardsonyou can jimmy-rig captive to do it04:24
mikebotparadizelost, rather, is there any way i can access a file i am editing right now (in ubuntu) in windows?04:24
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wizaynei am interested in making a bootable ubuntu cd from the *.iso file04:24
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wizaynewhere can i get the bootable image?04:24
wizayneis that included in the iso?04:24
dmikebot: yes04:24
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mikebotd; how?04:24
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amphiwizayne: it's basically a boot floppy image04:25
cdubyaevening, all04:25
dmikebot: but that is a #windows  question not an #ubuntu question...none of us know how04:25
wizayneok..i don't have a floppy drive but i think with roxio media creator i can make the cdr bootable04:25
amphiwizayne: see eltorito in man cdrecord or the cd writing howto at tldp.org04:25
dick-richardsonmikebot: I'm gonna have to refer to google...captive-ntfs is what you're looking for04:25
whitermikebot it is not possible to write to an NTFS partition using ubuntu...04:25
mikebotthanks04:25
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wizaynethankies04:25
whiterit is only possible to read from it04:25
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dmikebot whitch file system are you trying to read in windows?04:25
jack|assSo if I have a hyperthreading processor, do i want the regular or SMP version of the linux kernel?04:26
mikebotwhiter, i don't haev to write to an ntfs, i csan save it on my ext3, but can i access that in windows?04:26
mikeboti just need access to this file when i'm in windows04:26
whiterprobably, i dont know04:26
whiteroh wait04:26
wizayneamphi, i still don't know where to get the image i need to boot..04:26
amphiwizayne: you could also look at cloop if you haven't04:26
whiteryes you can...04:26
NoUse!ext304:26
ubotuext3 is, like, totally, a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/written from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org04:26
whitermikebot, ever heard of SAMBA ?04:26
wizayneis it included in the iso, amphi ?04:26
mikebotwhiter, no04:26
amphiwizayne: you must make it, perhaps04:26
dick-richardsonIs anyone getting a "launching http cache cleaner" thing that pops up?04:26
whiteryou could set up a samba share on linux and use windows file sharing like normal to connect to it04:26
wizayneoic.. erm.. okay04:26
wizaynethanks04:26
whiterand just share out the folder04:26
whiteryou are using ubuntu?04:26
mikebotyes04:27
dmikebot: what NoUse said04:27
wizaynesure am..i want to put ubuntu on my other laptop04:27
wizaynethanks amphi04:27
d!ext304:27
ubotu[ext3]  a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/written from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org04:27
whiterright click the folder the file is in and then goto "Share Folder"04:27
whiterchange the little drop down to SMB, make a share name, save04:27
dick-richardsonIs anyone getting a "launching http cache cleaner" thing that pops up?04:28
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whiterthen open terminal and type "smbpasswd -a"04:28
Peter-Brazilcomo registro meu nick?04:28
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Peter-Brazilsorry04:28
skwidanybody can help me with gparted ?04:28
lkj1How do I check what version of Ubuntu I have? You know, to see if the upgrade worked?04:28
Peter-Brazilhow como register my nickname?04:28
skwidim trying to change a windows partition from logical to primary04:29
whiterPeter, /msg nickserv register help04:29
crimsunPeter-Brazil: /msg nickserv help register04:29
lkj1Peter: /msg nicskerv register password04:29
NoUseskwid I'm not sure thats possible04:29
skwidNoUse: crap :S04:29
whiterand Peter, "How como" = "How do i"04:29
dskwid: what do you want to know04:29
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whiterIKJ104:29
dskwid: thats impossible without deleting and making a new partition04:29
skwidd: great ...04:30
lkj1He speaks Portuguese, whiter, give him a break. ;) Hence the Brazil in his name.04:30
mikebotwhiter, download samba right now04:30
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whitermike it should be already installed04:30
d`/nick _damian-04:30
Peter-Brazilsorry, my english is very bad04:30
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_damian-hmm04:30
mikebotwhiter, then it just updated04:30
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lkj1No problem, Peter-Brazil04:30
amphiPeter-Brazil: there's #ubuntu-br, if you want it04:30
lkj1:)04:31
Peter-Brazili am working in project asterisk with ubuntu04:31
whiterPeter-Brazil: /join #ubuntu-br04:31
whiterthen you can speak natively04:31
mikebot!paste04:32
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL04:32
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_damian-noiesmo: can you explain frostwire for me pls04:32
_damian-noiesmo: illegal program?04:33
mikebotwhiter, damn, i can't copy from the update manager...there were like 10 errors, or 'fails' rather04:33
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PhoulIs there a tutoriel on making debs that anyone can use?04:33
whiterdude, samba is installed by default on ubuntu04:33
PhoulFrom source code04:33
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whiteryou dont need to use update manager04:33
noiesmo_damian-, it's a p2p app04:33
PhoulI guess they would be called static debs?04:33
mikebotwhiter, it automatically popped up04:33
mikebotwhiter, when i sahred that folder04:33
whiteroh04:33
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whiterclose it?04:33
mikebothaha ok04:34
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Phoulanyone?04:34
mikeboti did 'smbpasswd -a' and got a bunch of display04:34
whiterrun it as root (sudo)04:34
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_damian-noiesmo...but is it a copy of limewire...rewriten..or did they just illegaplly edit limewire and04:34
mikebotah ok04:34
cdubyamikebot: smbpasswd -a username04:34
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whiter_damian, limewire is free to modify from source04:34
noiesmo_damian-, I don't know and don't care check out the frostwire site04:34
_damian-sure:P04:35
mikeboti didn't do a username04:35
mikebotis that ok?04:35
whiterno..04:35
_damian-whiter ok didnt know04:35
Peter-Brazilthe ubuntu here in Brazil is very used04:35
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whitermikebot it should be YOUR current ubuntu username, or a user that exists on the ubuntu machine04:35
bluntedhey anybody using kubuntu04:35
mikebotok04:35
mikebotjust redo it?04:35
whiterso... smbpasswd -a mikebot04:35
whiteryea04:35
_damian-this frostwire is no good for me want to get away fropm limewire there is one bug thats really annoying me04:35
bluntedand can tell me how good it is04:36
Peter-Brazili am using the kubuntu04:36
whiterPeter-Brazil: #ubuntu-br join it04:36
mikebotFailed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user mikebot. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?04:36
mikebotFailed to modify password entry for user mikebot04:36
_damian-anyone know a good p2p app?04:36
mikebotuse the same as my login name?04:36
whiteryea mikebot04:36
mikebotok, done04:36
noiesmoPeter-Brazil, ubuntu seems to be growing in popularity everywhere easy for new people generally to use compaired to other distros04:36
NoUse!tell _damian- about p2p04:36
whiter_damian, nope, limewire and gtk-gnutella04:36
blunted_damian-, gtk-gnutella04:36
minimec_damian-: Just installed it. That rocks!!!04:36
whitermikebot... the windows box is on the same network right?04:37
whitersame LAN i mean...04:37
mikebotum04:37
Peter-Brazilbut, the option server is perfect too04:37
minimec_damian-: Are you on dapper?04:37
mikebotthis is the windows box04:37
mikeboti need tor eboot into windows04:37
mikebot*to reboot04:37
Peter-Brazili am using in servers04:37
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whiterhm04:37
whiterok samba is useless then04:37
whiterlol04:37
mikebotcdubya, haha04:37
mikebothaha04:37
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cdubyamikebot, use the link posted earlier to access the fs04:37
whiteryea...04:37
mikebotcan i just use partition magic to copy a file from ext3 to ntfs?04:37
whiteri was thinking it was 2 seperate boxes04:37
cdubyahttp://www.fs-driver.org04:38
noiesmoPeter-Brazil, cool I use debain,slackware for servers at moment and kubuntu deskto04:38
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bluntedthat kubuntu desktop04:38
bluntedhows it do04:38
NoUsemikebot why not just do it from inside windows?04:38
cdubyamikebot, there are others I found before....I can look at the other one I d'loaded and give you the name of it if you want. It worked fine for what I was doing.04:38
noiesmoblunted, I'm a kde fan so its good04:39
Peter-Brazili am using it in my server of voip04:39
Peter-Brazilwith asterisk04:39
mikebotNoUse, how?04:39
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mikebotcdubya, this link says ext2.?04:39
NoUse!tell mikebot about ext304:39
cdubyamikebot, read a little further, says ext3 also04:39
elusivecan anyone help me with bluetooth?04:39
bluntedi was thinking about installing it, but i dunno if i want to part with my debian or not04:39
LKRaiderPeter-Brazil: oi vem pro canal ubuntu-br04:39
whiter!tell me about p2p04:39
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noiesmoblunted, debian's good only went to kubuntu for dapper and xgl04:40
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Peter-Brazil\join #ubuntu-br04:40
freakcodePeter-Brazil, ei amigo... entre no canal brasileiro... #ubuntu-br04:40
cdubyaPeter-Brazil, /join instead of \join04:40
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mikebotcdubya, ah, so i instlal this in windows?04:40
cdubyamikebot, yes04:40
mikebotok, thanks04:40
cdubyanp04:40
mikeboti'm going to reboot04:40
mikebotcya04:40
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blunteddo they make a kubuntu livecd?04:41
NoUseblunted yes04:41
bluntedhm cool04:41
NoUseblunted they make a livecd for every ubuntu verison04:41
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bluntedalrighty holla04:41
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CinHey... where is $HOME defined?04:41
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CinIt seems I cannot login to my account properly because $HOME is set to / instead of /home/cin.04:42
skwidso, anyone know how to boot windows on a logical partition with grub ? please :(04:42
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goudkovhi guys, i have 317 gnome-pty-helper proceses running only 9 days after reboot. is that normal? it's a desktop04:42
CinI checked /etc/passwd and it's set as /home/cin, which is correct. So is there another definition of $HOME?04:42
cdubyanot sure if anyone has need for it, but I used this app for reading from ext3 on Win2k and it worked well. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm04:42
spikebhmm04:42
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OrTigaSanyone uses chikka here?04:43
OrTigaSi forgot the installation :(04:44
OrTigaSchikka in gaim04:44
amphiCin: $HOME is defined in /etc/passwd04:44
amphiskwid: what happened?04:44
shasboti just installed 5.10 and am having trouble with my wireless networking, anyone here know much on the subject?04:44
skwidamphi: i cant boot on my windows still ...04:44
CinWell, I've set it as /home/cin, but it seems to be ignoring it... Using / as default.04:44
amphiskwid: evidently04:44
skwidand gparted won't let me change the partition from logical back to primary04:44
OrTigaShow to setup my user ass a root?04:45
amphishasbot: just ask04:45
lkj1Why does it say I don't have GCC? Why wouldn't I?04:45
OrTigaSfirst user04:45
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cdubyalkj1, sudo apt-get install build-essential04:45
lkj1And it won't let me install GCC because I don't have GCC.04:45
OrTigaSin visudo04:45
whiterlkj1 you probably dont04:45
Cinlkj1: Doesn't come with Ubuntu by default AFIK.04:45
amphiskwid: what error'd? windows or grub?04:45
lkj1lol why no?04:45
skwidgrub04:45
lkj1*not04:45
skwidamphi: invalid device requested04:45
whiterlkj1 size?04:45
whiterthe DVD has it on there, the CD dont04:45
Cinlkj1: 'Cause packages are binaries.04:45
lkj1ok04:45
CellFishok i don't get it .. to change the highest refresh rate in ubuntu you have to do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver0-xorg' ... however every time i restart the gdm, it still forces 60hz on me. what am i doing wrong04:46
whitersudo apt-get install build-essential anyway04:46
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whiterCell, wrong driver maybe04:46
cdubyaskwid, did you setup the reference in menu.lst or how did you set it up?04:46
amphiskwid: what do you mean, you changed the partition?04:46
amphiskwid: do fdisk -l /dev/hda and pastebin it, perhaps04:46
skwidamphi: well yeah that's why it's not booting anymore :)04:46
CellFishwhiter: i've done it before on ubuntu with a previous motherboard.. the video card is the same as is the monitor. it can't be the driver04:46
amphiskwid: huh?04:46
lkj1The sudo apt-get install build-essential doesn't work. It says: Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed04:47
lkj1  Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed04:47
amphiskwid: can you mount /dev/hda5 in linux?04:47
skwidamphi: everything was working fine, then i changed my windows partition from primary to logical, and then grub wouldn't boot anymore, then i asked for help :)04:47
skwidamphi: yes04:47
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amphiskwid: and all seems well?04:47
shasbotwell i have an atheros chipset wireless card, and when i boot the live cd, it is detected and i can configure it, but during installation when i ran ifconfig -a it wasn't listed, i installed anyway and when i log in, it says that it can't connect to ubuntu and that it may cause problems with gnome, and when the desktop loads, i can't run the network configuration or sudo04:47
amphiskwid: you see the legacy os's files?04:48
skwidamphi: http://pastebin.com/71467404:48
skwidamphi: yes04:48
lkj1Wait, now it seems to be working04:48
shasboti ran ifconfig -a and curiously, it lists ath004:48
CellFishcan somebody walk me through changing the highest refresh rate in ubuntu to see if i'm fucking up somewhere?04:48
noiesmoCellFish, maybe change the vert and horiz rates for monitor04:48
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CellFishnoiesmo: still in the configuration program?04:49
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amphiskwid: heh, hda1 disappeared, huh?04:49
cdubyashasbot, I have an atheros card, but it got picked up out of the box. Can you copy the good known working config while booting the LiveCD and then implement it? :-)04:49
lkj1Yay! Now I am building Fluxbox with my newly installed GCC!04:49
noiesmoCellFish, here's a copy of my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/71467904:49
spikeber04:49
skwidamphi: yep ... :(04:49
spikebfluxbox is in the repos...04:49
lkj1Uh, oh.. configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers.04:50
amphiskwid: grub doesn't care, the first logical partition is (hd0,4) regardless of how many primary partitions there are04:50
noiesmoCellFish, i edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf didn't use config program04:50
shasbotcdubya, maybe that would work, but i do not know what files to copy04:50
lkj1It is? It says it couldn't find the package, spikeb04:50
skwidamphi: hda1 was my primary windows partition, it got moved to logical hda 5 into primary hda204:50
amphiskwid: moved?04:50
cdubyashasbot, hang on04:50
spikeblkj1: it's in universe04:50
skwidamphi: well, i moved it with partition magic04:50
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lkj1Wait. Now it says: E: Package fluxbox has no installation candidate04:51
amphiskwid: ah... perhaps a source of regret...04:51
skwidyes :(04:51
lkj1Do I need to enable universe?04:51
spikeblkj1: yeah04:51
NoUse!tell lkj1 about fluxbox04:51
cdubyashasbot, do you have anything in /etc/network/interfaces referring to ath0?04:51
amphiskwid: windows doesn't like being moved around, AIR04:51
skwidamphi: yep04:51
spikebwindows doesn't like anything04:51
skwidamphi: but what do i do now :(04:51
amphiskwid: you should experiment in the grub shell, and see what gives you the error04:52
shasbotcudbya, ii dont know, im booted into windows currently04:52
cdubyashasbot, ewwww......04:52
cdubyaheh04:52
skwidamphi: hum, can you give experiment suggestions ? :)04:52
cdubyashasbot, might check that to see what's up, then kinda go from there.....04:52
shasbotlol, yea i know... but i overwrote my other linux install04:52
cdubyaouch04:52
cdubyaheh04:52
lkj1Thats good info, NoUse. Do I just need to add something to my sources.list?04:52
amphiskwid: try 'rootnoverify (hd0,4)' and enter, and if it accepts that, try 'chainloader +1', and enter, and then 'boot' & enter04:52
shasbotyea, i became annoyed with my gentoo isntall04:53
NoUse!tell lkj1 about repos04:53
shasboti will boot the livecd and get back on04:53
amphiskwid: I think it's the rootnoverify line that would give that error, but you should check perhaps04:53
amphiskwid: have you tried with rootnoverify yet?04:54
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lukeluke@luke:~$ wall "hi"04:54
lukewall: will not read hi - use stdin.04:54
luke?04:54
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jas_anyone ever use the "watch video" feature at CNN? I'm having no joy there (Dapper Beta)04:55
skwidamphi: hum, i get an error with your commands, pasting04:55
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NoUseluke echo "hi" | wall04:55
lukewow, ty NoUse04:56
skwidamphi: http://rafb.net/paste/results/eBbITs56.html04:56
amphiluke: echo foo | wall04:56
lukeNoUse, amphi, is there any command I can use to notify all users in Gnome (if they arent using a console)?04:57
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amphiskwid: interesting ;)04:57
koburrokallaCan someone help me with uninstalling ubuntu?04:57
skwidamphi: you find so :)04:58
skwidamphi: i'd say annoying :p04:58
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amphiskwid: I'm inclined to blame partition magic, but that's probably just prejudice04:58
CinRight... I fixed the home folder and login problem, seemed I was denied access to my home folder somehow.04:58
CinThat's happened before.04:58
bon_whats the best program to get hotmail through pop?04:58
Skwidamphi: bias ! :)04:58
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amphiCin: chown04:59
NoUsekoburrokalla I would boot off your windows parition, run fixmbr and then you can delete the linux parition from inside windows04:59
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amphiSkwid: verily04:59
NoUsekoburrokalla boot off the windows CD, not partition04:59
amphiSkwid: may one ask why you did this?04:59
CinEvery once in a while, when I log in I get this problem of being denied write access to my own home directory.04:59
Skwidamphi: i needed to have another primary partition04:59
CinAnyone encountered this before?04:59
Skwidand i had too many apparently04:59
amphiSkwid: why?04:59
amphiSkwid: yeah, 4 max04:59
Skwidso i thought, yay, let's move the windows guy :)04:59
amphiSkwid: for hysterical reasons05:00
KaosXHello all05:00
Skwidamphi: OSx86 :)05:00
koburrokallaNoUse:  I have ubuntu installed on a second harddrive and can't take it out of the system because the Grub loader crashes.  The Linux partition is on the second hard drive05:00
amphiSkwid: you deserve to be punished for usuing more evil proprietary sw ;)05:00
NoUsekoburrokalla thats what booting off the windows cd and running 'fixmbr' will fi x05:00
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Skwidamphi: yeah, i guess that's my punishment :)05:01
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Skwidamphi: any other experimenting ideas ?05:01
koburrokallaNoUse:  OK, so do I just boot into command prompt with windows cd?05:01
shasbotcdubya, where should i look for the files from the livecd?05:01
NoUsekoburrokalla yes05:01
NoUse!tell koburrokalla about fixmbr05:01
amphiSkwid: I'm at a bit of a loss;grub doesn't like it - you could try (hd0,5) perhaps, but I don't see why that would work05:01
KaosXi just did the apt-get upgrade dist on my flight 6 box last night...Im glad the "this isnt the final artwork" splash is gone05:01
Skwidamphi: ok05:02
cdubyashasbot, /etc/network/interfaces05:02
bon_whats the best program to get hotmail through pop?05:02
KaosXthunderbird or evolution most likely05:02
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shasbotcdubya. ok, i found the file and it mentions ath005:03
KaosXthunderbird is from the mozilla folks05:03
KaosXreally good app05:03
cdubyashasbot, you have a shell open?05:03
Skwidamphi: i get the same error with 0.505:03
shasbotcdubya, i do now05:04
amphiSkwid: you didn't type (hd0.4) before, did you?05:04
Skwidno05:05
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amphijust checking ;)05:05
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Skwidamphi: #grub is dead :(05:05
Guest_790im having trouble loging in05:06
Gidget42guest: try changing ur nick05:06
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KaosXcant you just cp your important directories (home)  to somewhere else and just reinstall?05:06
cdubyashasbot, lemme think....sorry.....talking to several people here at once.05:07
EleafAny operators around?05:07
Skwidamphi: oh wait ...05:07
Skwiddid i need to do these as sudo ? :)05:07
amphiSkwid: the grub docs say explicitly that the first logical partition on the first hd is (hd0,4)05:07
shasbotcdubya, thats fine, take your time05:07
Skwidcause i just did, and it didnt give the error05:07
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amphiSkwid: in the grub shell, there is no sudo05:07
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amphiSkwid: wtf?05:08
Skwidamphi: but i launched 'sudo grub'05:08
Skwidamphi: uh ? i thought we were interested in the first _primary_ partition05:08
Skwidim confused now :)05:08
amphiSkwid: what are you doing? you need to do this in the grub shell at boot time05:08
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Skwidamphi: haha05:08
amphiSkwid: you don't have one05:08
Skwidamphi: i was using a terminal05:08
Skwidamphi: my linux partitions are primary05:08
Guest_790I'm getting an error message that says "Failed to start the X server(your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly."05:09
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Guest_790then it give me the optin to view the X server output to diagnose the problem05:09
Skwidamphi: sorry :)05:09
Guest_790anybody know wats goin on?05:09
amphiSkwid: no worries ;)05:09
cdubyashasbot, what I would do is copy the /etc/network/interfaces file to your home dir......then you can mv the real interfaces file to interfaces.old and replace it with the one that works...05:10
amphiSkwid: that 'rootnoverify (hd0,4) chainloader +1 boot' stuff yous should do in the grub shell, after rebooting, *before* lunix boots05:10
shasbotok, i shall give this a go05:10
Skwidamphi: yeah, i just figured that out05:11
Guest_790has anybody ever seen that error message before at startup after installation05:11
Guest_790?05:11
KaosXguest -- you can try this if youve got a shell05:11
KaosXsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg05:11
Skwidalright, amphi ill be back05:12
Skwidi hooe :)05:12
Skwidhope05:12
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KaosXit might be having issues figuring out your video card05:12
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Guest_790really, do u know how to fix that?05:12
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KaosXsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg05:12
KaosXbut youll need a command line shell05:13
amphiGuest_790: you might want to look at linux-laptop.net and/or tuxmobil.org to see if that laptop has any 'special needs'05:13
cdubyashasbot, have any luck?05:14
KaosXim sorry the command is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:14
KaosXare you trying this from a live cd or an install?05:14
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mathieu_i'm having trouble getting my sound card to work05:16
mathieu_the output works but I am unable to record05:16
mathieu_using the ubuntu dapper sound recorder application05:16
shasbotcdubya, well i can connect to the internet now, but the same error message comes up when i log on "cannot connect to ubuntu, may cause problems in gnome, try adding address to etc/hosts" and i still can't run the networking configuration tool05:17
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basiliohi all05:17
shasbotalso when i run sudo, i get the error of "unable to look up ubuntu via gethostbyname()"05:18
basilioim having problems installing gtkpod any advice im totally a newbie with one week using ubuntu and really happy05:18
cdubyashasbot, when you boot the system, and you see the output "Setting up ALSA card 0", right after that, you should see a "Configuring Network interfaces". Once you see that, hit Ctrl-C and kill the process.....then let it boot normally, and see if you can login and then run the networking tool.05:18
basilioi try apt-cache add gtkpod05:19
shasbotcdubya, ill go try that05:19
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primoturboIs it possible to get a Ubuntu cloak for freenode?05:20
_damian-magic mushrooms05:20
_damian-FUCK IM OFF MY HEAD05:20
_damian-have fun people i imm having more05:21
_damian-im sure im having more05:21
Guest_790does anybody know a website where i can download debian05:21
_damian-the debian one?05:21
Guest_790ubuntu doesnt work with my video05:21
Guest_790yea05:22
_damian-debian.com??05:22
_damian-der...05:22
Guest_790oh lol05:22
Hobbsee_damian-: language05:22
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primoturbodebian is a bit outdated05:22
primoturbobut stable05:22
_damian-hobbsee sorry05:22
Guest_790wat do u guys recomend05:22
_damian-although deb ian has a much better apt source list05:22
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_damian-Guest_790 try dsl05:23
primoturbowhat are you trying to accomplish?05:23
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Guest_790just a home computer05:23
Guest_790multimedia05:23
_damian-Guest_790 DSL05:23
primoturbothen Ubuntu will work05:23
_damian-damn small linux05:23
Hobbseeprimoturbo: yeah, it is.  there's ones with membership, and there are unaffiliated ones from freenode05:23
amphiGuest_790: what is your video card?05:23
Guest_790its a radeon05:23
amphiGuest_790: what radeon?05:24
primoturboati sucks, I know I have a 9700 Pro05:24
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primoturboATI cards have very shit driver support05:24
amphiGuest_790: lspci will tell you if you're not sure05:24
primoturboGuest which radeon do you have?05:24
primoturbodo you want to play 3d games?05:24
amphiprimoturbo: mine is supported by the xorg driver well enough05:24
Guest_790im not too sure, but its a 3d acclerator05:24
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primoturbocan u check in your options?05:25
amphiGuest_790: pfft - do lspci and paste the _one_ relevant line of output in here05:25
Guest_790yea, im a newb, so can u tell me how to do that05:25
primoturbodisplay properties > settings > advanced and then adapter tab05:25
amphiGuest_790: do lspci in a term05:25
wooIs there a way for me to like... mount a remote ftp site, somewhere?05:25
amphiGuest_790: or the slow way ;)05:25
primoturboif you can't use windows, it will be even harder to use Linux05:26
amphiwoo: ISTR ftpfs being in the kernel05:26
wooamphi: Huh?05:26
amphiwoo: that's what you're talkinga about, no?05:26
wooamphi: ISTR?05:26
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primoturboGuest_790 have you tried Linux before?05:26
primoturboHow long have you been using a computer?05:27
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Guest_790it says VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies inco: unknown device 5a6205:27
amphi'I seem to recall' - do none of you people have wtf(6) installed?05:27
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Guest_790no, im really good with windows05:27
Guest_790but first trime with linux05:27
primoturbodoesnt sound like you have drivers installed for windows05:27
amphiGuest_790: what are you in now?05:27
wooamphi: How would I use ftpfs?05:27
Guest_790its a black screen where i login05:27
shasbotcdubya, that didn't work, i think the problem now is with sudo, it seems that anything that requires root is not working05:27
Guest_790it failed to startup because of my video card05:28
primoturboIf you are good with windows are you able to install windows xp on a unpartioned hard-drive?05:28
Guest_790yes05:28
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primoturbohow do u not know what video card you have then?05:28
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CrocoJete ai pessoal05:28
CrocoJetqual eh a versao mais nova05:28
CrocoJetops05:28
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Guest_790should i go into system bios?05:28
prospero2005does anyone know which repository I can get sun-j2sdk or sun-j2re from?05:28
amphiwoo: dunno, never tried; IIRC it's a plan 9 -ism that's come into linux; basically, it's a server that presents a remote site as part of your file system, so you use your normal shell tools to manipulate the files05:29
VideoToasterHey everybody, I installed Kaffeine 0.8.1 today, but now the player freezes whenever I try to play an audio CD with it - I don't get any error messages and the disc never plays. Any ideas?05:29
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cdubyashasbot, bummer.05:29
prospero2005Does anyone use eclipse with ant to compile java ?05:29
wooamphi: ah05:29
primoturboit's not needed for Linux05:29
cdubyashasbot, so you can't do anything with sudo at all?05:29
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primoturboati means you can use fglrx or ati driver05:29
primoturbobut I would not expect good 3d performance05:29
VideoToasterI'm using the debs from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15445205:29
amphiGuest_790: how old is this card?05:30
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shasbotcdubya, correct, the error message i get upon logging in says it cant connect the internet ubuntu or something like that, and it reccomends adding ubuntu to etc/hosts05:30
Guest_790its a new laptop05:30
Guest_790got it for christmas05:30
primoturbofor example I get 125 fps (cap) in Windows XP playing Quake3 at highest settings 1024x768, I get about 90 playing under ubuntu and latest fglrx05:30
amphiwoo: was that the sort of thing you're looking for?05:30
wooamphi: Hehe yeah, but I don't know how to use it :-/05:30
cafuegoYes, fglrx is a joke.05:30
shasbotcdubya, ubuntu is also my hostname so that may be what it is refering to05:30
spikebheh05:30
spikebcafuego you can say that again05:30
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cafuegoYes, fglrx is a joke.05:31
primoturboGuest_790 so you have burned Ubuntu LiveCD?05:31
slackernsend ati a mail what you think about their linux drivers maybe with enough mails they'll start doing something.05:31
jedielfala05:31
Guest_790yes05:31
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Guest_790and the install cd05:31
amphiwoo: http://ftpfs.sourceforge.net/home.html05:31
spikebslackern: good idea05:31
cdubyashasbot, are you still booted to the LiveCD?05:31
Arrickanyone I cant remember how to perform a low level format, can someone refresh my cobwebs please?05:31
spikebslackern:  i think i will do that right now05:31
slackernthats what i did atleast.05:31
primoturboI'll just not buy ATI next time, that's for sure05:31
shasbotcdubya, no, i am on my install05:31
jedieloi karina05:31
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spikebslackern: they tend to reply with: "the drivers are provided as is" though05:32
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the_Kanehey05:32
slackernspikeb, haha indeed they do :)05:32
amphiwoo: already obsolete ;)05:32
the_Kanedoes annyone here use spoon proxy ?05:32
spikebi avoid ati where possible primoturbo:)05:32
primoturboGuest explain pls what happens when u start up the LiveCD?05:32
cdubyashasbot.....k.05:32
primoturbowhich version did u burn 5.10 or testing Dapper 6.06?05:33
primoturbocause I have issues with Dapper 6.06 livecd not booting05:33
shasbotcdubya, for the record, /etc/hosts only has one line in it: "127.0.0.1 localhost"05:33
cdubyashasbot, k05:33
amphiwoo: looks like LUFS is the way to go05:33
wooamphi: I almost got it working05:33
cdubyashasbot, yeah, I've only got that one as well, along with several ipv6 lines05:34
wooamphi: But by <file_system>://[<user>[:<pass>] @] [<host>] [:<port>] [/<remote_root>]  <mountpoint> [OPTIONS] 05:34
amphiwoo: cool, I never tried it05:34
wooamphi: What do they mean file system?05:34
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amphiwoo: ftp I would presume05:34
amphiwoo: in your case05:34
ros_Can anyone help trying to bring an md0 RAID0 device with 2 SATA HDs ?05:34
wooamphi: It said unsupported file system05:34
amphiwoo: perhaps you need to resort to TFM ;)05:35
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dibblegowhere do I start looking to remotely access my headless Ubuntu machine?05:35
slackerndibblego, ssh or vnc ?05:35
shasbotcdubya, is there anywhere i am supposed to specify the router address?05:35
dibblegoslackern: I'm hoping for a display of some kind05:35
cdubyashasbot, hang on....05:36
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dibblegoI have a monitor on it at the moment - but I'm going to take it off05:36
slackerndibblego, System->Preferences->Remote Desktop05:36
cdubyashasbot, sorry, no, not if your ath0 is setup for DHCP05:36
slackerndibblego, then use a vnc client like tightvnc to access it.05:36
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himsky1hi05:37
himsky1hi everybody05:37
amphiwoo: you used lufsmount with suitable args?05:37
VideoToasterHey everybody, I installed Kaffeine 0.8.1 today, but now the player freezes whenever I try to play an audio CD with it - I don't get any error messages and the disc never plays. Any ideas?  I'm using the debs from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15445205:37
shasbotcdubya, it looks like it is: (in etc/network/interfaces):"iface ath0 inet dhcp05:37
shasbotwireless-essid linksys05:37
shasbotauto ath005:37
shasbot"05:37
himitsuhi all05:37
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slackerndibblego, you might want to uncheck "ask you for permission" since you can't click it when running headless.05:37
dibblegoright, I've done that05:38
Ryan-is there some kind of ipconfig command for ubuntu?05:38
slackernRyan-, ifconfig05:38
Ryan-hah thanks05:38
Arrickanyone I cant remember how to perform a low level format, can someone refresh my cobwebs please?05:38
amphiwoo: or here's an example from TFM: mount -t lufs none /mnt/lufs -o nosuid,fs=ftpfs,host=ftp.sourceforge.net,username=mali,password=mypass,ftpactive05:38
dliArrick, no need for low level format05:38
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amphiArrick: mkfs -t $FILE_SYSTEM_TYPE /dev/whatever05:39
dibblegocool that seems to work, thanks05:39
slackerndibblego, your welcome.05:39
cdubyashasbot, so can or can't you run the network helper?05:40
bominanyone here play with encrypted filesystems at all?  I've had a passing interest in setting one up, but haven't really done any indepth research.05:40
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Skwidamphi: wow ... some really funky stuff05:40
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shasbotcdubya, i can run network tools, but i can't run the networking under system>administration05:41
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lufisHi. I have ubuntu and windows installed on the same hd. I booted into windows and then restarted to boot into ubuntu. I logged in to my ubuntu account and it wasn't connecting to the internet. I restarted, thinking it would fix it, and it did, but after I booted my monitor gave an error "OUT OF RANGE"... I reinstalled ubuntu not knowing what to do about it, and it still is doing the same thing.05:42
amphiwoo: I just tried sshfs on localhost, seems to work ok, FWIW05:42
amphiSkwid: ?05:42
zcat[1] lufis: ctrl-alt-F1 should get you to a text login..05:42
bbrazillufis: if you get an Out of Range, try pressing Crtl-Alt-F1, which should get you to a console. You can fix xorg from there05:42
Arrickamphi,  dli I need a low level format, and Im in woidows and they wont help me out05:43
amphibomin: I've done encrypted loopback fs (fs-in-a-file)05:43
Skwidamphi: the command line seemed to work, but apparently my windows/system32 folder disapeared05:43
amphiSkwid: good riddance, I say ;)05:43
lufisBbrazil, zcat: I don't think it's an xorg problem. It works until I log in using the gui... then out of range. It sounds like an xorg config error, I know, but I deleted the ubuntu partition and reinstalled, so all of the config files were erased. Wtf? :(05:43
bbrazilArrick: with modern drives, I doubt you want a low level format. What are you trying to do?05:43
amphiArrick: modern disks shouldn't be low-level formatted by $USER AFAIK05:44
Skwidamphi: sounds like a sign to get rid of windows for good heh :)05:44
Arrickbbrazil, its ancient, and I am trying to put it back to use n a 98 system05:44
bbrazillufis: it probably put back exactly the same config files05:44
Arrickpart of my studio05:44
lufisBbrazil? How? the disk was erased05:44
slackernArrick, Usually the manufacturers of the drives provides tools to do lowlevel formats, you should have a look at that.05:44
dliArrick, sorry, I don't know windows05:44
amphidli: it's not really a windows issue05:44
Skwidamphi: i think i'm going to format it05:44
bbrazilArrick: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda bs=1024 count=1 <-- run this and then pop in the 98 CD (warning: this command is dangerous)05:45
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amphiSkwid: better not to muck about with partitions without a backup ;)05:45
bbrazilArrick: ssuming you want only 9805:45
cdubyashasbot, so what are you running then when you say network tools05:45
zcat[1] Well, I would still reconfigure xorg so there are no modes it can use that are out of range..05:45
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bominamphi: yeah it seems like the filesystem in a file is the way to go, easy to backup and such05:45
Arrickyeah05:45
lufisZcat, ok. I'll try :(05:45
Skwidamphi: i have backups :)05:45
Skwidamphi: it's just a pain to reformat ..05:45
bbrazilArrick: if there's no partition table, 98se will ask to create one05:46
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Skwidamphi: is windows going to screw my ubuntu and grub if i reinstall 605:46
zcat[1] log in text mode, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:46
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OpenSorceok.....total Kubuntu question I know......when using adept or apt and trying to install wine or winesetuptk they want to uninstall each other if the other is present......any clues why?05:46
bbrazilOpenSorce: probably a Confilcts in one of the packages05:46
Arrickhey bbrazil bad command05:46
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amphibomin: yeah; you might find this of use: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/8105:47
bbrazilArrick: exact error?05:47
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Arrickbad command or file name,05:47
amphiSkwid: it'll obliterate grub, but it's easy enough to boot off a cd and reinstall grub05:47
shasbotcdubya, applications>system tools>network tools05:47
bbrazilArrick: you typed 'dd' as teh command?05:47
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siimohi how do i remove the update notification thingy in the top right corner of the screen for users that are not sudoers? since they cant do nothin about it anyway05:47
Skwidamphi: darn05:47
Arrickyeah, what was I supposed to do?05:47
shasbotcdubya, i cant seem to be able to fix anything from there though05:47
Skwidamphi: ok05:47
amphiSkwid: not the config, just what's in the mbr05:48
OpenSorcebbrazil: yeah gotta be, just want newbs to be able to install both and use winesetup to configure wine with getting into that whole dirty console thing :-P05:48
amphiArrick: ?05:48
Skwidamphi: yeah05:48
Arrickdo me a favor, type only what i am supposed to type right quick05:48
lrojasany news on dapper?05:48
dfgaslrojas, its pretty and evern more pretty with xgl05:48
bbrazilArrick: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda bs=1024 count=1           (Warning: dangerous command)05:48
amphiOpenSorce: 'dirty console thing'???05:48
SmittyINSIDEit's coming out June 6th (or thereabouts), right?05:49
FlannelSmittyINSIDE: 1, june 1.05:49
dfgassometime in june05:49
amphibbrazil: how will that benefit him?05:49
shasbotcdubya, i was looking around online and i found a suggestion to restart in recovery mode, and then set etc/hosts to05:49
shasbot127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost <yourhostname>05:49
SmittyINSIDEoh right on05:49
Arrickhey bbrazil is that a unix style command, the slashes look backwards for windows05:49
bbrazilArrick: oh, you're on windows?05:49
Arrickno, I am on nothing at the moment05:49
amphiArrick: what are you trying to do?05:49
OpenSorceamphi: hehe......I'm testing Kubuntu for use for windows users.....real newbs05:49
Arrickno os05:49
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lrojaswas just wondering if we would be able to install fluxbox to replace gnome05:50
bbrazilamphi: if the partitions are trashed, the 98 install cd will created from scratch in my experiance05:50
Flannellrojas: you don't have to replace gnome, they can coexist.  but yeah you can.05:50
Arricktrying to put an os on this &*^% machine so I can get dignostics on it05:50
dfgaslrojas, you can install anything05:50
bominamphi: this looks pretty straight forward, I'll have to try it out.  I was thinking about storing my mail archives (accessed via Mutt) on an encrypted filesystem.. writing a wrapper script to mount the fs, get my mail, unmount05:50
lrojasdfgas, what is xgl ?05:50
cdubyashasbot, you might try doing a sudo hostname whatever_hostname_you_want_to_use when you reboot to recovery mode.05:50
amphibbrazil: does the installer not run fdisk? it's been a while ;)05:50
cdubyathen check it with hostname05:50
siimono way to remove update notification for non admin users?05:50
shasbotcdubya, ok05:50
dibblegoslackern: when I reboot the machine, the VNC server has not started - can it be started automatically?05:51
ArrickI've tried 5 hard drives and the os gets to the point "starting windows now" with 98 xp 2000 and blue screens05:51
bbrazilamphi: the 98 cd runs fdisk depending on whether there are already partitions05:51
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bominamphi: but as soon as you talk about automating something, you place your password at risk.. so prob not a good idea05:51
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bbrazilArrick: what are you currently running on this system?05:51
RememberPOLHey will 6.06 have Xgl?05:51
Arrickther is no os on it05:51
Arricknothing05:51
Arrickbare partition05:51
slackerndibblego, oh it isn't started? hmm i'll have to look into that.05:51
amphibomin: if the mail wasn't sent encrypted, everyone's read it already ;)05:51
bbrazilArrick: so how are you interacting with the system?05:51
cdubyashasbot, that will change the hostname to something other than ubuntu hopefully....:D05:51
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slackerndibblego, have only used it shortly myself.05:52
Arricknot even formattd yet05:52
Arrickyes05:52
RememberPOL!Xgl05:52
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/05:52
RememberPOL?Xgl05:52
dibblegoslackern: any ideas of where to look?05:52
amphibbrazil: you mean, if there's a valid partition table, it doesn't give the option to fdisk??05:52
slackerndibblego, i'm heading for the forums to look :)05:52
ArrickI put the 98 boot floppy in so I caould get to the A: drive, but have nothing else05:52
bbrazilamphi: iirc, been a while. I use partimage these days ;)05:52
Drac|WinWhen trying to partition my primary and secondary harddrives for root, swap and home, I get "Partition map has no partition map entry!     ERROR!!!!" with the options to 'Fix' or 'Cancel'. I've tried to work my way around this, but I can't seem to. Can somebody help?05:52
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amphibbrazil: sounds stupid enough to be true :)05:52
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bbrazilArrick: ah, you should have mentioned you were in DOS05:52
Drac|WinThis is in the installation partitioner, of course.05:52
Arrickok05:52
bbrazilArrick: run 'fdisk /mbr'05:53
amphiDrac|Win: has the disk ever been partitioned?05:53
bbrazil(once again, dangerous command)05:53
Arrickokwhat next?05:53
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slackerndibblego, here is another approach to it  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402&highlight=remote+desktop+reboot05:53
woobbrazil: What's he trying to do?05:53
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amphiwoo: install a legacy os, I believe05:53
bbrazilwoo: install win98 on a system that previously had ubuntu afaict05:53
Arrickyep05:53
Drac|Winamphi: Yes. I'm working with a beige Mac G3. It was full of Mac partitioning. There were at least 10 partitions. I deleted them all in the new plan and set it to format with one big partition.05:54
amphiwoo: we are being indulgent ;)05:54
Arrickno05:54
spikebDrac|Win: you need at least three partitions on a mac05:54
bominamphi: oh I know, but the difference between someone reading a message that may have passed through their MTA, and someone reading all my messages in one place is pretty big. I'm just brainstroming btw, I'd probably do quite a bit more reading before putting something in to production05:54
Arrickit had 98 on it previously and they wiped it cause it was a network system05:54
Arrickbut anyways what next?05:54
Drac|Winspikeb: I have them on the primary harddrive. More than three.05:54
amphiDrac|Win: if there's nothing on there, try fix perhaps; otherwise, boot from some cd and partition yourself05:54
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Drac|Winamphi: I AM booted from the CD. :P05:55
amphibomin: echelon hears everyhthing ;)05:55
spikebDrac|Win: just make sure that you have an apple bootstrap partition and a swap partition in addition to whatever else, and you're good05:55
bbrazilArrick: fdisk, and setup your partitions. Make sure the first one is bootable. If it's older than a P2 the first partition should be less that 1GB05:55
Arrickits 500mhz05:55
amphiDrac|Win: er, yes, but a cd that lets you just run [c|s] fdisk05:55
Drac|Winspikeb: What partitions do I need to leave in the secondary drive, if that's what's causing this error?05:55
dibblegoslackern: cheers, I'll give it a go05:55
slackerndibblego, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158206&highlight=remote+desktop+reboot someone with same problem as you05:55
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RememberPOLi hope so.05:56
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amphibomin: but point taken - you can trivially write a script that will mount the file, prompting for the passphrase, run mutt if that's succesful, and umount when mutt terminates05:56
spikebDrac|Win: you need an apple bootstrap partition somewhere, along with swap, and /05:56
dibblegoI'll try the hard one first :)05:56
Drac|Winspikeb: In the secondary drive? Okay.05:57
bbrazilArrick: then run 'setup'05:57
spikebi think the bootstrap can be on the first drive, acutally, but i'm not sure.05:57
Arrickok05:57
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bbrazilArrick: dunno how it work with flopies, I've only done it with a CD05:57
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bominamphi: yeah shouldn't be too difficult, thanks much for the link btw05:58
ArrickI have the 98 cd, but gotta be able to aces it first05:58
slackerndibblego, aye it seems like the best idea i think, or otherwise there seems to be something called freenx which does about the same thing.05:58
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Clint-hello everyone,05:58
bbrazilArrick: you sure it's a 500Mhz?05:58
Arrickyeah05:58
bbrazilArrick:I'm supries it doesn't boot off CD05:58
dibblegoDapper looks pretty by the way - I just installed the 12052006 daily build05:58
Clint-I been , challenging myself, to find out, what a package needs, and dependancies, and manually installing them05:58
Drac|Winspikeb: I would think so, but apparently the partitioner wants one on both...05:58
Arrickit is05:59
spikebDrac|Win: heh05:59
slackerndibblego, did you use the livecd installer?05:59
Clint-dibblego: , yes, I'm using latest, alpha 705:59
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dibblegoslackern: I believe I did05:59
amphibomin: d-a.org has useful articles sometimes05:59
Clint-I did the , text mode, because I'm more to the advanced, and it is , worth studying, what its needed to know, to use open source, also, got CodeWeavers Cross Over Professoinal on it, 506:00
slackerndibblego, ahh nice, i had some problems when i tried it so haven't tried them in a while now.06:00
dibblegoI installed from http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/dapper-install-i386.iso06:00
Clint-if anyone wants to team up, for the wirelss support. plz let me know06:00
dibblegodisabling/enabling my wireless NIC makes my system freeze06:00
dibblegospeaking of wireless06:00
Arrickbbrazil, its checking fat now06:00
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Clint-I been really challenging myself06:01
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Clint-I Like how, fat, and especially ntfs automounts now06:01
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Arrickdibblego, do you disable your other nic when you enable the wireless?06:01
Clint-I probably, might just, set up the ndiswrapper,06:02
slackerndarn i want a wireless card to play around with too *sulks*06:02
dibblegomy other NICs are disabled at all times06:02
Arrickok06:02
Drac|Winspikeb: Success! I left the Mac crap in the slave as well, and everything went smoothly. :)06:02
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Clint-hey people, ubuntu discovered my Broadcom, Air Foirce etc, 802.11 b/g built in WLAN , however, maybe something further more i need to do?06:02
dibblegoone is an ethernet, the other is a modem06:02
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shasbotcdubya, ok i changed /etc/hosts and my hostname and now it works, thanks for all your hel06:03
shasbothelp06:03
dibblegoactually, they are not "disabled", they are not even "configured"06:03
Arrickbbrazil, ok bad disk, time for another then06:03
dibblegoit's not a big deal anyway - thought I'd mention it06:03
cdubyashasbot, very kewl. Don't feel like I helped much, but extremely happy for you that you're up. :)06:03
Clint-dibblego:06:03
spikebDrac|Win: good, good06:04
Clint-want to know whats really cool sometimes, the challenges of open source, :)06:04
Arrickeven if not configged you gotta disable them or the collide for soe reason dibblego06:04
cafuegoClint-: Disable the built-in driver, use ndiswrapper.06:04
Clint-hey cafuego06:04
dibblegoArrick: there is no option to disable or enable them06:05
cafuegoClint-: 4318 support isn't usebale yet, afaik.06:05
Clint-Acer's do have some problems hee, with linux, just couple is all06:05
dibblegoSystem->Administration->Networking06:05
Clint-how did ya know,06:05
dibblego"Properties" "Activate" "Deactivate" - I can only select Properties06:05
Arrickok06:05
Clint-this user, got it with Slackware  10.2 , using ndiswrapper, so yeah I guess you right on that, thats what I was going do, I'm not even up yet in it, I have to get some depedancies,06:05
Clint-Acer Aspire 3613 WLCi06:06
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Clint-but, I'm not ready to get out of the debian based systems, so :)06:06
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cafuegoClint-: Poeple have reported hardlocks using the bcm43xx driver on 4318 hardware, it's still udner contruction. Only the 4306 really works sofar.06:06
Clint-its nice, just teaching yourself, to install packages manually, and there dependancies, can be pain, but its worth the effort, to making advanced user06:07
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Clint-oh06:07
Clint-so you know some stuff on that, maybe you could help06:07
mud2005im trying to install bcm43xx on presario 5000z and having no luck at all06:07
Clint-I would be greatly appreciative , and share my information with the people , with help with laptops and etc06:07
cafuego!bcm43xx06:08
ubotuTo use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.06:08
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Clint-well, I'm going eh, put myself to the challenges, I'm sure I"ll figure it out06:08
Clint-hey guys06:08
Arrick!patience06:08
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.06:08
mud2005ndiswrapper works but only with acpi=off; is it possible to get battery info with acpi or apm?????06:08
majdWhat do i put in for my domain when setting up samba?06:08
Clint-1 important question before I get this package, anyway, I can like.. download, or put together cd , for gettin packages06:08
Clint-yes, typing, acpi06:09
Clint-will let you know information, you could probably build your own gui interface for telling you,06:09
Clint-in the console mud2005, thanks for that info06:09
mud2005i have 4318 also06:09
FlannelClint-: you mean like, download packages, then sneakernet them to the computer?06:09
Clint-but I am not sure, oh , if disable the acpi, will that block ya from getting info from the console o.o06:09
Clint-yes, because its kind of tiring , manually getting all the dependancies, packages i need lol06:10
Clint-:P06:10
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mud2005i used noapic nolapic acpi=off, doesnt block anything but battery monitor i think06:10
Clint-I get on my windows system, then I get packages, then save to my lacie, 80 GB, and then install hee06:10
Clint-you have a WLAn like I do?06:10
Arrickjust burn them to a cd, you'll use them again sometime06:11
Clint-if I can just get pass this thing, I would be more than happy, be a designated, wireless support, and driver etc06:11
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mud2005Clint- i have wlan presario 5000z06:11
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Clint-well, Arrick, I am actually going put together, my own linux system in the future, taking the kernel, then drivers, etc.. packages up to me, and gui06:11
mud2005i had to download bcml5a.inf from dell to get it working with ndiswrapper06:12
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lrojasClint, that is more work than what is worth i think06:12
spikebnah06:12
Arrickoh ok06:12
spikebit's a lot of fun06:12
Arrickyeah06:12
Clint-i hear about that, so , what all do I need from ndiswrapper, what all packages, etc..06:12
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spikebClint-: that's what LFS is all about :)06:12
mud2005ndiswrapper-utils06:12
Clint-well, its worth it to me, because I challenge myself with everything in th IT world :)06:12
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Clint-k, I go tthat,06:13
mud2005and .inf from windows driver06:13
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Clint-cool, yeah, my buddy was tellin me that, he uses knoppix, we use windows for what we need it for, and linux06:13
cgafter install ubuntu, my w2k cannot start,:(06:13
Clint-you see, I work with TEchSmith Camtasia, Maxon 3d, rhino 3d,06:13
Clint-I almost got, CodeWeavers CrossOver Pro 5, on ubuntu I custom instaled, to run maxon06:14
Clint-cg06:14
varsendaggerhey my alsa won't come up what gives06:14
Clint-I can help you with that06:14
NoUsecg what error do you get?06:14
cgit tells me ntkernel.exe not found06:14
Clint-I use , Acronis Disk Director Suite , to manage alot of my partitions , and operating systems bud06:14
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Clint-i promise ya, I can help you get it back06:14
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NoUsecg did do you do anything to you rwindows partition?06:15
mud2005does anyone know if its possible to get laptop battery info without acpi or apm?06:15
Clint-oh, you overwrote the systems root kernel?06:15
fiendskull9hey guys06:15
fiendskull9am i i686?06:15
cgbefore install ubuntu, i use partition magic to repartion it, and w2k is ok.06:15
Clint-cg: , what exactly did ya do06:15
fiendskull9its an intel p4 proscessor06:15
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fiendskull9im just wondering06:16
spikebfiendskull9: yes you are06:16
Clint-I don't really care for Symantec06:16
mud2005fiendskull9, yes06:16
Clint-or even, Paragon which I used out side of partition magic, Acronis Disk Director , has been best ever :)06:16
Clint-I even have a cd, I created, in case ever, I lost the OS Seletor, etc. partitions etc..06:16
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Clint-cg: , want me show you what I'm talkin about?06:17
lwizardlcan someone help me with getting a java app to load from a link to application06:17
cgi have to reinstall w2k to see if i can repaie it.06:17
cgClint, yes06:17
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cgthanks for any help!06:17
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lrojasubuntu should be customizable... like if i didnt want a File manager, and only the fluxbox WM, it should be easy to set that up06:17
spikeblrojas: that's what the sub-projects are for.06:18
Arricklrojas, it is customizable, you just gotta have skills06:18
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Clint-cg, check this, http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/products/diskdirectorsuite/multibooting.html06:18
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Arrick!dualboot06:18
Clint-Symantec's Partition Magic, has nothing on them06:18
ubotufor wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot06:18
dibblegosystem froze :)06:18
Clint-and no other software, I have tested, does :)06:18
Clint-I am testing with, dapper, pc bsd 1.0. and other systems06:19
lwizardl!javadebs06:19
Arrick!java06:19
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:19
voododo06:19
Clint-lol iratsu06:19
Clint-iroj06:19
voododo06:19
Clint-well it is..06:19
Clint-you just have to strip all the software out :P06:19
Clint-or do a , server install :P06:20
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dibblegowhen I boot my machine without a keyboard/mouse, CMOS complains about missing keyboard - can I tell it to stop caring?06:20
AlimahIRC06:20
Arrickdibblego, yeah in the bios, turn off errors06:21
Clint-lol @ skills06:21
ferronicahi room06:21
ferronicaHELP ME!06:21
Clint-know, just study , the information it takes, to do what you want, and people , we are capable of alot of things, thats why I'm studying Artificial inteligence :-)06:21
amphiferronica: 'channel'06:21
Arrick!ask06:21
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.06:21
varsendaggerhey how can i disable sound startup using CLI?06:21
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ferronicasorry06:21
Clint-dibblego: , put your cmos on, halt on no errors06:22
ferronicaeverytime my BIOS time changed06:22
amphispikeb: that's the canonical behaviour06:22
ferronicaand ubuntu timer also06:22
voododoubuntu06:22
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spikebhehe amphi06:22
spikebanyone know what language voododo is talking?06:22
voododo06:22
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cgClint, that software seems good. but can it make my this installed w2k start?06:22
Flannelvoododo: only english here.  which language do you prefer?06:22
Clint-k, tim to eat pizza06:22
Clint-yes it can06:22
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Alimah06:23
ferronicawhat i do06:23
amphispikeb: .cn it would seem06:23
cgvoododo, debian-zh06:23
Clint-I'm goin eat pizza,06:23
Clint-cg, I wil help you bud06:23
Polygonhello, i recently switched wireless network cards and i was told i need to configure this manually, how do i do this?06:23
Clint-;)06:23
ferronicaubuntu didn give correst time of my country06:23
spikeb!cn06:23
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese, please join #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-tw06:23
spikebboy that's helpful06:23
amphiPolygon: what is the new card, pray tell?06:24
cgClint, do you have good idea?06:24
ferronicaHELP!06:24
Flannelferronica: do you only have ubuntu on your system?06:24
amphiferronica: tzconfig perhaps06:24
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Polygondlink dwl-g52006:24
amphiferronica: please don't shout06:24
amphiferronica: is your bios clock set to UTC?06:24
ferronicaFlannel: no, i hav two OS ubuntu and Xp pro. both in seperate HDD06:24
amphiPolygon: I wot not of it, sorry06:24
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Polygonwot?06:25
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odathi everyone06:25
odatany special room for ubuntu on a mac?06:25
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lufisHow can I have write access to a win NTFS partition?06:25
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ferronicaamphi: what is UTC06:25
Flannellufis: in a nutshell, you cant safely.06:25
IcemanV9lufis: you don't06:25
amphiferronica: AKA GMT06:25
lufisFlannel, icemanv9: damn. how about unsafely?06:25
Polygoni read somewhere that the same guys who made windows on mac are making linux on mac or something06:26
ferronicaamphi: before logging i pressed F2 and sets my country time, again same thing ubuntu showing me wrong time06:26
odatany special room for ubuntu on a mac?06:26
amphiferronica: if your bios clock is set to local time, your suffering will increase; it should be set to GMT/UTC and then your TZ should be configured correctly06:26
Arrickno06:26
FlannelPolygon: you can already have linux on macs.06:26
IcemanV9lufis: you've been warned, but it's your choice :)06:26
lufisicemanv9: ok :)06:26
Polygonjust saying =P06:26
_damian-Polygon iu can theres ubun tu for mac too u know06:26
ferronicaamphi: everytime same problem06:27
spikebi dont know how well supported the intel macs are though06:27
Alimahis it possible to have two linux distributions on one computer? (Red hat and Ubuntu?)06:27
Flannellufis: theres a project working to emulate NTFS write support.  I dont remember the project name, googling should be fruitful though.06:27
FlannelAlimah: yep06:27
spikebAlimah: yes06:27
Alimahok06:27
lufisFlannel: ok, thank you.06:27
ferronicaamphi: how to set it to GMT/UTC06:27
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Flannelspikeb: for intelmacs, you just use the intel installs.  Its based on Hardware, not software.06:27
mendahu@find celestia antiqua06:27
spikebFlannel: that's what i am saying - i don't know how well the intel mac hardware is supported.06:28
ferronicaamphi: how to set it???06:28
odatFlannel, i am having problems getting the cd to boot06:28
Polygonok anyway, can anyone help me configure a new network card?06:28
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Flannelspikeb: oh, the peripherals.  gotcha.06:28
ferronicaamphi: everytime bios time get changed automatically06:28
ferronicaamphi: will u tell me from where to set06:29
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amphiferronica: every what time?06:29
penguin-1ferronica: are you saying your bios is not retaining your time settings?06:29
Arrickif you are get a new battery06:29
ferronicaamphi: yes penguin-106:29
amphipenguin-1: after boot, linux doesn't read from the cmos clock06:29
penguin-1ferronica: yes if its not retaining your settings you may need to get a new battery then06:30
amphiferronica: have you set your TZ correctly?06:30
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amphiferronica: you can use ntp to set the system clock06:30
ferronicapenguin-1: my bettery is OK06:30
Flannelamphi: that won't play well with windows.06:31
FlannelI imagine that's the problem.  windows likes system clock to be localtime.06:31
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ferronicaamphi: i what is TZ06:31
Polygon can anyone help me configure a new network card?06:31
vookJust to save everyone some time, I installed Windows Vista two days ago.  It's already thrashing.  It is considerably better than XP or 2000, but Microsoft is still stuck on that stupid ntfs filesystem and that ridiculous filesystem structure.  Will they ever learn?06:31
amphiferronica: sorry, timezone06:31
amphivook: drive letters?06:32
vookamphi, I know, what gives?06:32
linuxcrazyarggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!06:32
ferronicaamphi: If i boot again and RESET my bios time correctly, and again if i see my BIOS time incorrect06:32
linuxcrazywhy me?!06:32
ferronicaamphi: my timezone is correct, no problem06:32
amphivook: I was asking - they're so quaintly medieval ;)06:33
vookamphi, sometimes I just want to play some video games or load up Adobe Audition, ya know, but, damn, is it worth it?06:33
linuxcrazyI tried to install cedega and it says it can't fing gtk!!!06:33
linuxcrazywhat the...06:33
amphiferronica: do you have ntpdate installed? if not, do 'sudo apt-get install ntpdate'06:33
Polygon can anyone help me configure a new network card?06:33
amphivook: I would say no, but then I haven't used windows in a while - YMMV06:34
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nbounddamn wine... i want 0.9.13 dammit :P06:35
vookamphi, I miss really good professional audio mixing, processing software, that and some worms armageddon without the bugs of cedega.06:35
varsendaggerhey how can i disable sound startup using CLI?06:35
ferronicaamphi: ntpdate is already the newest version.06:35
NoUse!tell nbound about wine06:35
nboundNoUse, i know... im just having a whinge...06:36
amphivook: surely, there are serious gaps in the free software catalogue :(06:36
NoUsenbound ok06:36
amphiferronica: so do sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart06:36
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varsendaggervook, amphi   have you used ardour?06:36
rehuh...06:36
ferronicaamphi: but what abot my BIOS time06:36
vookamphi, I think I'm just going to have to buy some real audio equipment.06:36
vookvarsendagger, no, hmmm.06:37
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linuxcrazyI try to install cedega and it says it can't find libgtk06:37
ferronicaamphi: Ok06:37
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nboundlinuxcrazy, well get it!06:37
ferronicaamphi:  * Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org...                         [ ok ] 06:37
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amphiferronica: the time should now be correct - is it? type date in a term06:38
linuxcrazyok06:38
linuxcrazyI think it working now06:38
acetechwhat is the best method of removing all kde applications and libraries?06:38
i3dmasterI want to add a wm entry into the kdm menu, how to do that?06:38
ferronicaamphi:  my time06:38
spikebacetech: removing libqt-mt with apt06:38
erothoffCan anyone help me get the PCMCIA drivers working for an ATI SB400 chipset Notebook?06:38
amphiferronica: ?06:38
majdHi, ok i setup my samba server but when i try to access it, it windows asks me for username/password06:38
majdand i can't figure out what they are06:38
odatanyone have experience installing ubuntu on a mac?06:38
Drac|WinWhy does "mount /dev/hdc6 -t hfsplus /mnt/mac" fail with "invalid argument" ?06:39
ferronicaamphi:  what i type???06:39
bbrazilmajd: do you want it to ask for a password at all?06:39
amphiferronica: you mean date shows you localtime?06:39
nboundlinuxcrazy, why waste money on cedega when wine is almost as good06:39
majdbbrazil, not really06:39
bbrazilmajd: public = yes06:39
spikebcedega has much better game support06:39
amphiferronica: type 'date' in a term, and see if the time is correct (your local time)06:39
ferronicaamphi: right now it showing correct06:39
Drac|Winnbound: WINE is NOT almost as good. It can't handle Direct X at all!06:39
bbrazilmajd: just be careful with that and writable shares06:39
spikebwine works with wow, thats all i need it to do :)06:39
amphiferronica: ok; no do 'sudo hwclock --systohc --utc'06:39
majdbbrazil, why? security?06:40
nboundDrac|Win, uh are u joking? of course it handles directx06:40
amphiferronica: now do06:40
satemplerDrac|Win: umm06:40
vookvarsendagger, oh, wait, yeah, I have used that.  I haven't put too much time into it though.  It's worth another look indeed.  I'd like real-time audio processing, sort of like a digital guitar pedal.06:40
Drac|Winspikeb: You got WoW to work under WINE alone? O_o06:40
satemplerDrac|Win: what about Cediga06:40
bbrazilmajd: yip06:40
i3dmasterDrac|Win, what if you do 'mount -t fs_type dev mon_point06:40
spikebDrac|Win: yeah it works06:40
majdbbrazil, well i wouldn't mind the password if i knew what it is06:40
majdlol06:40
bbrazilmajd: XP?06:40
Drac|Winspikeb: Amazing. o_o06:40
nboundDrac|Win, WoW works under wine straight out of the box06:40
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ferronicadone06:40
majdbbrazil, yeah06:41
ferronicaamphi: done06:41
Drac|Wini3dmaster: I think I tried that already, but alright. I'll try it again.06:41
spikebDrac|Win:  it's the only game i've tried though06:41
bbrazilmajd: use smbpasswd to set the password06:41
FlannelDrac|Win: yeah, WOW works on wine.  theres plenty of forum topics about it.06:41
spikebDrac|Win: neverwinter nights doesn't count since it has a native binary06:41
amphiferronica: that sets your bios clock to UTC/GMT, based on the system (kernel) time06:41
linuxcrazyDARN!!!06:41
linuxcrazyI can't believe06:41
linuxcrazythis*06:41
amphi!enter06:41
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.06:41
nboundim hoping the direct3d fixes in this version will let me see around in oblivion06:41
bbrazilmajd: if you happen to be on a multi-user system you can use PAM so that every time you do a passwd, it'll also update the smbpasswd06:41
linuxcrazypiece of stupid crap!!!06:41
acetechspikeb: libqt-mv is already removed and i can still open qt applications06:41
i3dmasterDrac|Win, you'r sure hfsplus is supported. I didn't check but it doesn't sound familiar to me though../06:41
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majdbbrazil, that's the thing, i never set my samba password so i don't know what my old samba password is06:42
spikebhmm06:42
ferronicaamphi: ok stay in channel let me boot my computer and check my bios time okay06:42
majdno i'm only user06:42
spikebacetech: that is what i was told06:42
linuxcrazyI can't even get a stupid gnome app to work!!06:42
Polygon can anyone help me configure a new network card?06:42
bbrazilmajd: you don't need the old one (there probably isn't one)06:42
spikebacetech: ask in #kubuntu06:42
majdmachine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Account disabled.06:42
majdFailed to change password for majd06:42
amphiferronica: I hear and obey06:42
odatanyone have experience installing ubuntu on a mac?06:42
ferronicaamphi: in clock preference what to check06:42
bbrazilPolygon: does it show up in lspci?06:42
spikebodat: i have06:42
amphiferronica: clock preference?06:42
bbrazilmajd: use sudo with it06:42
ferronicaamphi: yes06:42
Polygonwell i just installed it like 10 min ago06:42
Drac|Wini3dmaster: I've done it many times before. This is part of how you get BootX to work. You mount the hfsplus partition, then copy the new initrd.img to the System Folder for Mac OS 9. Anyway, yeah. It's supported.06:42
bbrazilPolygon: wired?06:43
linuxcrazythis kubuntu is crappleware. ubuntu is ok though...06:43
ferronicaamphi: i use clock type 12 hours06:43
amphiferronica: I have no idea what you're talking about06:43
Polygonno its a wireless card06:43
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amphiferronica: makes no difference06:43
bbrazilPolygon: better ask someone else then06:43
ferronicaamphi: show date06:43
Polygonwell i just want to know if i have to do anything for ubuntu to see it before i do drivers and such06:43
nboundlinuxcrazy, they are the same thing with a different desktop06:43
ferronicaamphi: but USE UTC un checked06:43
i3dmasterDrac|Win, ok its for Mac.. sorry can't help much on that...06:43
majdbbrazil, ok it seems like i changed it successfuly06:43
majdbut it won't login06:44
majdstill06:44
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i3dmasterDrac|Win, btw do you know how to add an entry into KDM startup menu?06:44
vooklinuxcrazy, I'm willing to help06:44
bbrazilmajd: remove the public = yes, and make sure security = user06:44
Drac|Wini3dmaster: "mount /dev/hdc7 /mnt/linux" didn't work either. Same error.06:44
nboundlinuxcrazy, kubuntu = kde , ubuntu = gnome, xubuntu = xfce06:44
amphiferronica: check use UTC06:44
ferronicaamphi: what is USE UTC06:44
ferronicaamphi: ok done06:44
amphiferronica: I assume that's for the bios clock06:44
amphiferronica: I don't know what you are doing06:44
Drac|Wini3dmaster: Not a clue. I'd recommend GDM if you're willing to switch session managers. It's not like you won't be able to use KDE anymore. Still, if you want KDM, use KDM.06:44
odatspikeb, i have this old mac with no OS on it at all but apparently its an old world mac and i can't boot from the ubuntu cd  any suggestions?06:44
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Flannelamphi: going to have nothing but problems.  windows doesn't use UTC.  once he boots back into XP, itll be screwed up again.06:45
ferronicaamphi: oh my god, as i checked it my ubuntu time get changed06:45
tritiumferronica: Universal Time Coordinate.  Are you dual-booting?06:45
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Drac|Winodat: I know exactly what to do. Hold on!06:45
majdbbrazil, do i need to restart samba after i change it's config?06:45
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i3dmasterDrac|Win, I meant 'mount -t fs_type dev mnt_point'. Did you actually put the -t before the device?06:45
spikebodat: none, have never tried on an oldworld mac06:45
amphiFlannel: windows still can't do offsets from UTC?06:45
Eleafhi06:45
tritiummajd: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart06:45
tritiumamphi: nope06:45
amphiFlannel: that's incredible06:45
bbrazilmajd: my experiance is no, which is probably a bug ;)06:45
Flannelamphi: nope.  Heck, it changes system time for DST.06:45
ferronicaamphi: what it dose06:45
amphiferronica: you dual boot windows?06:45
ferronicaamphi: again showing wrong time06:45
varsendaggervook, i'm sure you can do a digital guitar peddel06:45
tritiumferronica: if you're dual-booting, don't use UTC06:46
ferronicaamphi: but both windows r in different HDD06:46
amphiferronica: I hadn't realised that windows was still as broken as win9506:46
vooktritium, amphi, and that's another thing.  I stayed up three hours too late looking at that stupid windows clock.06:46
Flannelferronica: they use the same system clock.06:46
Drac|Wini3dmaster: Of course. Additionally, for the /mnt/linux it was reiserfs, which doesn't need its type specified for this to work. Something's wrong with the shell, I think... I might reboot back into the install CD and try to mount them again from a new shell.06:46
amphiferronica: makes no difference, windows will fsck it up06:46
tritiumvook: heh06:46
ferronicaamphi: So, uncheck UTC06:47
bbrazilPolygon: probably do a search on wiki.ubuntu.com for your card06:47
amphiferronica: you must set your TZ to GMT/UTC and have the bios clock in local time - kill bill, that's what I say ;)06:47
tritiumferronica: I've already told you not to use UTC06:47
amphiferronica: so, because of windows, you have to have incorrect TZ in linux06:47
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Apostle^how do i set the gnome splash screen?06:47
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amphitritium: sorry for adding to the confusion, it never occurred to me that recent versions of windows were still so broken - I can hardly believe it still06:48
ferronicatritium: ok i unchecked UTC06:48
Drac|Winodat: You want to install Mac OS 9 (or lower if necessary) on it, then download BootX. Ignore what this guide I'll post says and drop the BootX App into "Control Panels" inside the SF and drop BootX Extension into "Extensions" (also in the SF), while dropping the kernel folder directly into the SF. Here's the guide: http://www.applefritter.com/node/893606:48
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zcat[1] amphi: vista too?06:48
vookit's not touching my laptop though, no way.  That was mearly an experiment06:48
amphizcat[1] : no idea06:48
Flannelamphi: heh, I mentioned that at the very beginning.  You all were asking about batteries, I asked about windows ;)06:48
zcat[1] I would expect so..06:48
tritiumamphi: not your fault :)06:48
amphiFlannel: I didn't mention batteries - I thought the bios was set to localtime and linux configured for the correct TZ06:49
Arrickhow to change your password in freenode?06:49
FlannelArrick: you cant, I don't believe.  That'd be a security risk.06:49
Arrickyou should be able to06:49
amphizcat[1] : somebody above said that, chillingly, vista retains drive letters06:49
vookit does06:50
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vookunbelievable06:50
amphiArrick: I imagine you can06:50
Dr_WillisHmm. I though i read a review that said it dident retain drive letters....06:50
zcat[1] Of course it does.. vista has to remain backward compatable with DOS3.106:50
amphivook: ah, yes, it was you, sorry06:50
Flannelamphi: Vista is winXP, with a few system libraries rewritten.  It's hardly a change at all.06:50
Apostle^how do i set the gnome splash screen?06:50
zcat[1] Windows XP ME06:50
Dr_Willisbut i dont plan on getting vista any time soon.06:50
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Apostle^zcat[1] , don't mention ME... makes some people nervous06:51
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amphiDr_Willis: I don't think you're alone - MS doesn't seem to be planning to sell it soon06:51
Dr_Willisamphi,  :P06:51
Drac|WinApostle^: There's two ways. There's a tool you can install, or you can just replace /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png with an image of your choice, but Ubuntu Artwork updates will replace this second method, so the first is generally a smart approach.06:51
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zcat[1] rofl.. yeah.. nobody's getting Vista any time soon..06:51
Dr_Willisthey are waiting for those Uber PhysEx cards - so the OS can have real time Physics effects!06:51
Flannelzcat[1] : the poor people who buy new computers are.06:52
spikeblast i read, garner wsa saying that vista will get delayed again06:52
untunghi06:52
Apostle^Drac|Win, getting the tool, thanks06:52
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zcat[1] OK.. if soon == early 2007, perhaps..06:52
penguin-1hah, those add in physics cards are a joke06:52
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amphiDr_Willis: so when programs crash, their windows spiral down the screen, trailing smoke? ;)06:52
Drac|WinDid you notice how Vista's menus mimic the layout of GNOME, KDE, and the majority of Open Source WM menus? :P06:52
Dr_Willispenguin-1,  :P06:52
untunghow to connect ubuntu to windows server?06:52
spikebamphi lol06:52
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Dr_Willisamphi,  yep!06:52
Eleafa joke eh?06:52
Drac|WinApostle^: You're welcome. :)06:52
ferronicaamphi: ok i rebooted06:52
Dr_Willisuntung,  you mean to share directories?06:52
odatDrac|Win, what about quick bootloader?06:53
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ferronicaamphi: BIOS time is incorrect06:53
penguin-1dr_willis :P right back atcha06:53
penguin-1dont be mad cuz im right :D06:53
vookwhen my vista computer thrashes just to load up firefox, something is very wrong.06:53
zcat[1] and the OEM version will be crippled. Neither of the two features MS didn't drop completely, only three programs at a time..06:53
amphiferronica: don't listen to me, I had misjudged, yet again, the evil that comes from Redmond06:53
ferronicaamphi: but this time ubuntu time is correct06:53
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Drac|Winodat: You could try other bootloaders, but my method is a tried, true, and relatively easy method. It may look complicated in that guide, but it's easy. Check your PMs. I'll walk you through it if you need me to.06:53
amphivook: what do you mean, 'just to load up firefox'?? ;)06:53
ferronicaamphi: what???06:53
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amphiferronica: the Land of Redmond, where the shadows lie06:54
sstchurI recently install xubuntu (where I used to use ubuntu) b/c I like xfce so much.  However, getting my wireless card working in xubuntu turns out to be more difficult than it was in ubuntu.  Anyone have know how I can go about it in xubuntu?06:54
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vookIt just thrashes, brand new install.  Thrashing all the time.06:54
ferronicaamphi: ok u mean u wont help me06:54
IT_chickGood evening everyone :)06:54
zcat[1] vook: you have the recommended 4GB of ram? :)06:54
ferronicaamphi: ok as u wish06:54
ferronicaSo any other person who will help me??06:54
odatDrac|Win, yea but that method boot mac os first then linux right?06:54
Drac|Winodat: A quick trip to get BootX once you've got Mac OS 9 configured for internet is to go to google and simply type in "bootx" and click "I'm feeling lucky" - At the page it takes you to, follow the link to the developer's page and scroll down almost to the bottom. You'll want the latest version, obviously.06:55
amphiferronica: ffs, stop blathering; because you have a damn fool legacy os installed, which is broken, your bios clock must be set to local time, linux must not use UTC, and your time zone in linux must be set to UTC/GMT06:55
vookzcat[1] , no, that I do not have.  But Linux never thrashes on 512mb @ 1100mhz06:55
vook:)06:55
Drac|Winodat: Hold on. Answer on its way.06:55
MisnixArrick,  /msg nickserv set password <your_password>06:55
ArrickMisnix, got that, now how about chanserv?06:56
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amphiferronica: if you have your correct time zone set in linux, with the bios clock set to local time, your time zone offset from UTC will be applied twice, which will be incorrect06:57
zcat[1] amphi: no.. timezone should be where you are, otherwise ntpd will keep setting the localtime to UTC06:57
Flannelzcat[1] : no.  timezone should be GMT, +0.  So ubuntu and windows are in agreement.06:57
MisnixArrick,  try /help in your server window06:57
zcat[1] timezone=where you are, bios time = local time, not UTC06:57
Drac|Winodat: It does boot Mac OS 9 for a second, but BootX pops up before it even loads OS 9 (if you put the extension in the proper folder like you're supposed to) and you can set your preferences in it to have it count down from 5 seconds and automatically switch violently to Linux mode, which is cool to watch. *POOF* -TEXT MODE- *POOF* -GREY TEXT- *POOF* -LINUX-06:57
amphizcat[1] : can't use ntp I don't think, otherwise the clock will be set wrong when linux boots06:57
zcat[1] Flannel: absoutely not.06:57
ferronicaamphi: so what is the conclusion06:58
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amphiferronica: I've told you twice already06:58
ferronicaamphi: BIOS WILL SHOW ME INCORRECT06:58
Drac|Winodat: Please direct your attention to my PM, where I can help you further.06:58
tritiumferronica: stop the all caps please06:58
Flannelzcat[1] : yeah.  You need to pick an offset of 0, since your bios is set to localtime, and that is what is displayed in linux.06:58
odatDrac|Win, think system 7 will work?06:58
zcat[1] there's two settings; timezone which sould always be your actual timezone, and BIOS time which can be UTC (normal) or localtime (compatable with windows)06:58
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Flanneloh. I wasnt aware of that.06:59
amphiferronica: 1) set your bios clock to local time; 2) set your TZ to UTC/GMT06:59
amphiferronica: 2) is in linux06:59
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FlannelI just figured you would skip the ntp on ubuntu, and only update via windows.06:59
zcat[1] ferronica: amphi IS wrong.06:59
amphiferronica: or don't dual boot with windows, so you don't have to break your linux system06:59
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amphizcat[1] : I am not ;)06:59
zcat[1] yes you are.06:59
ferronicaamphi: i am really confused07:00
sstchurAnyone know where I can find wpa_gui?07:00
spazzzEvening folks.  I'm having trouble getting my new Belkin Wireless card working and was wondering if anyone had a moment to give me a hand07:00
Flannelferronica: listen to zcat[1] .07:00
amphiferronica: I am wrong, apparently07:00
sstchuris that part of wireless-tools or something?07:00
spazzzUbuntu detects it fine and it can connect to my router but the dumb thing won't go anywhere after that no matter how I set it up07:00
ferronicazcat[1] : ok u tell07:00
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paradizelost!xgl07:01
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/07:01
amphizcat[1] : if his hw clock is in local time, and his TZ is not UTC, the system time will be wrong at boot, as the TZ offset is added to the hw clock time07:01
zcat[1] leave timezone as your actual timezone so that ntpd can make the adjustment; ntp servers provide the time as UTC.... there's also a setting in the linux config for BIOS time, which you set as 'local time'07:01
ferronicazcat[1] : If i set my BIOS time LOACL time my ubuntu showing me wrong time07:01
spazzzAnyone?07:02
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Drac|WinI still can't get mount to work properly from the installation CD's console shell...07:02
zcat[1] right-click on the clock in ubuntu and select 'adjust time'07:02
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ferronicazcat[1] : one thing when i boot my pc , there it show me synchronizing with linux.org ntp ====failed????07:03
zcat[1] oosp, ignore that.. I'll find the correct option for you07:03
ferronicazcat[1] : what is that failed error for??07:03
Drac|Win"mount dev/hdc7 mnt/linux" should work fine. I mkdir'd mnt and mnt/linux. Why won't it mount? It's reiserfs and such. Automatically recognized. I still get "Invalid argument"07:03
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ferronicazcat[1] : synchronizing something like that, failed???07:04
CoagWhat might cause a harddrive that bios still sees to be virtually nonexistent to linux?07:04
CoagI see only this line in dmesg pertaining to it: [4294673.027000]      ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio07:04
Coagit would be the hdb mentioned there07:04
zcat[1] damn, can't even find the option in the GUI.07:04
ferronicazcat[1] : Do u know??? what is that failed error for???07:04
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willie_i need help changing my resolution please07:05
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Dr_Willis!fixres07:05
ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:05
ferronicazcat[1] : Is that above comment for me^^^^07:05
willie_Dr_Willis, thanks07:05
Kamping_Kaiserhow can i get the build deps of gnome? `sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-desktop-environment didnt return anything usefull07:05
InnerFIREis there a way i can use one of the litestep shells at litestep.net ?07:05
zcat[1] ferronica: hang on.. I know what setting I want you to change, but I'm having trouble finding where to change it under ubuntu..07:06
pallyDoes Ubuntu have bash-completion?07:06
Coagyes07:06
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ferronicazcat[1] : ok, i am waiting for ur good reply07:06
pallyCoag, really?07:07
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tritiumferronica: s/ur/your07:07
Coagpally: of course07:07
Drac|WinNo matter what I do with mount in ash (not bash), I get "Invalid argument" Can sombody make a suggestion? Maybe I should clean the CD...07:07
alekzhow can i deny a user to access via ssh ?07:07
Kamping_Kaiserzcat[1] , ferronica you after 'services' under system -> admin?07:07
metatagpally: hi07:07
pallyCoag, thanks, however, I didn't find it in the reposi07:07
pallymetatag hi07:08
metatagpally: where are u from?07:08
Coagpally: it's already there, use the tab key07:08
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Coaganyone have any ideas on my hard disk issue?07:08
mmmiiikkkeeei was wondering is there a way to precache or preload specific programs when i boot up the computer in the background so that is i say click on app XYZ it the instantly appears with out haveing to load it from the hard drive and wait for it to configure?07:08
pallyCoag, o. But it doesnot auto complete for 'man', or 'rmmod' cmd07:09
pallyI remember my previous mandriva does07:09
zcat[1] Kamping_Kaiser: where's the option for bios time="UTC / Local"07:09
metatagCoag: wot issue?07:09
Flannelpally: hit tab twice, for a list of possibilities07:09
Coagpally: ma<TAB> rmm<tab> it's a shortcut not a cure all07:09
Kamping_Kaiserzcat[1] , try right clicking the clock  and 'ajust time and date' afaik07:10
CoagWhat might cause a harddrive that bios still sees to be virtually nonexistent to linux? -- I see only this line in dmesg pertaining to it: [4294673.027000]      ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio -- it would be the hdb mentioned there07:10
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pallyCoag, I mean, man comman<TAB>, it could also comple the 'command'07:10
zcat[1] Kamping_Kaiser: tried that.. there's only timezone. I got asked during the install for the option I want but now i can't find it.07:10
Kamping_KaiserCoag, 'virtualy non existant'?07:11
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Coagit doesn't exist in /dev07:11
zcat[1] system / set time is the same as the clock menu..07:11
Kamping_Kaiserzcat[1] , then try 'tz<tab>' afaik07:11
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Kamping_Kaisertheres some timezone config stuff there07:11
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Kamping_Kaiserthe_Kane, ask a question, someone will tgry and help if they can07:11
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Kamping_Kaiserzcat[1] , perhaps `sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzconfig` as well or tzselect07:12
Kane666well ive set up SpoonProxy and configured my ubuntu apps to connect through it... but sometimes (i dont know why..) i get a connection refused. And no one has even touched the windows machine (hosting spoonproxy)07:12
metatagKamping_Kaiser: hi07:12
Coagpally: man pyd<tab><tab>07:12
Coagit works fine07:12
Ams_NYheyah07:13
Ams_NY23 m Nyc07:13
ferronicazcat[1] : what happend07:13
metatagAms_NY: heyah!07:13
Kamping_Kaiserhi metatag07:13
zcat[1] ferronica: sudo nano /etc/default/rcS    find the line that says UTC=no and change it to UTC=yes07:13
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Ams_NYhey meta07:13
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metatagAms_NY : wazzup in NY?07:14
zcat[1] then set the timezone correctly, set the time correctly.. from then on your BIOS time should be == local time and will be interpreted right in both windows and linux07:14
metatagKamping_Kaiser: whats a Kaiser?07:14
CoagWhat might cause a harddrive that bios still sees to be virtually nonexistent to linux (as in it doesn't exist in /dev anymore)? -- I see only this line in dmesg pertaining to it: [4294673.027000]      ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio -- it would be the hdb mentioned there07:14
nomasteryodakudos to Ubuntu for keeping Atheros support07:14
Ams_NYchillin meta...07:14
Ams_NYwhere r u from07:14
Ams_NY?07:14
Kamping_Kaisermetatag, Empiror07:14
ferronica# Set UTC=yes if your system clock is set to UTC (GMT), and UTC=no if not.07:14
ferronicaUTC=yes07:14
Kamping_KaiserCoag, stop spamming the question07:15
metatagAms_NY : Mauritius07:15
CoagI'm not spamming it07:15
zcat[1] That's the one.. UTC=no will make it local time07:15
Kamping_KaiserCoag, i asked for clarification, i didnt get it07:15
CoagI added the correct information that was needed07:15
Drac|WinI'm going crazy, here. mount simply won't work properly. Can't anyone help me?07:15
Ams_NYkool07:15
Ams_NYbeen there once...nice07:15
metatagKamping_Kaiser: do emperors Kamp?07:15
zcat[1] sorry, I think I said YES before.. I meant NO07:15
ferronicazcat[1] : see it is already set to yes07:15
zcat[1] my head hurts07:15
Kamping_Kaisermetatag, at times07:15
tritiumzcat[1] : there is a tzconfig command07:15
Kamping_Kaiserlol zcat[1] 07:15
Kane666can annyone help me with my proxy problem ?07:16
zcat[1] set it to NO.. your BIOS time is NOT UTC sorry for the confusion07:16
tritiumzcat[1] : I've told her many times that it's not UTC07:16
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zcat[1] tritium: BIOS time is a different setting from timezone07:16
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metatagAms_NY : really?07:17
Ams_NYyups...was a school trip07:17
tritiumzcat[1] : yes, but it's still not uTC07:17
zcat[1] yeah..07:17
tritiummetatag, Ams_NY: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic07:17
metatagtritium: hi07:18
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Drac|WinHmm... Coffee only works if you keep moving. :P07:18
linuxcrazyhow do I make another account?07:18
dlilinuxboy, adduser or useradd07:18
Dr_Willislinuxcrazy,  you mean add another user?07:18
tritiumlinuxcrazy: with either "sudo adduser", or the gnome tool07:18
linuxcrazythx07:18
tritiumSystem->Administration->Users and Groups07:19
ferronicazcat[1] : what i do???07:19
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metatagtritium: hi07:19
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tritiummetatag: hi, do you have a queston?07:20
tritiumquestion?07:20
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metatagtritium: how are you?07:20
linuxcrazyok I install the nvidia drivers07:20
linuxcrazythey WILL NOT SHOW UP!!!07:20
ferronicazcat[1] : which server i select to synchronize clock with internet server???07:20
tritiummetatag: fine, thanks07:20
eod_punkwill grub interfer with reinstalling windows?07:20
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Dr_Willisshow up where linuxcrazy ?07:20
zcat[1] ferronica: sudo nano /etc/default/rcS    find the line that says UTC=yes and change it to UTC=no.. then rightclick on the clock, adjust date and time, set the timezone to your real timezone07:20
Dr_Willis!grub07:20
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting07:20
metatagtritium: do you know hhow to cook?07:20
linuxcrazythey won't work07:21
tritiummetatag: that's offtopic07:21
ferronicaok07:21
linuxcrazyI install nvidia-settings07:21
linuxcrazyand it won't show up07:21
metatagtritium: how come?07:21
linuxcrazy*sigh*07:21
linuxcrazyidk07:21
linuxcrazylol07:21
tritiummetatag: this is an ubuntu support channel07:21
metatagtritium: oohh meaning we can't socialize?07:22
Arrickmetatag, is a troll07:22
tritiummetatag: #ubuntu-offtopic is there for that reason07:22
metataghi Arrick07:22
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tritiummetatag: please stop07:22
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Dr_Willis!nvidia07:23
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia07:23
ferronica1zcat[1] = how to save it???07:23
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zcat[1] when you shut down it should write the system time to bios07:23
ferronica1zcat[1] = now it saved to UTC=no07:23
metatagtritium: ok... do you any tool to easily configure dns zones?07:23
Arrickhi07:23
zcat[1] to save the file in nano? ctrl-O07:24
ferronica1zcat[1] = how to save that termainl window07:24
metatagArrick : how are you?07:24
tritiummetatag: nope07:24
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alekzhi can someone help me? i just added a new user to my system, but he cant login via ftp why ??07:24
Arrickctrl +O07:24
Arrickalekz, not in the ftp group?07:24
dlialekz, don't use ftp, use scp07:24
ferronica1zcat[1] = to close07:24
DBOalekz, what ftp server?07:24
metatagtritium: oh nevermind07:24
zcat[1] to close nano, ctrl-X07:24
alekzproftp server07:24
alekzArrick, let me check that07:24
DBOalekz, check and make sure they are not listed in /etc/ftpusers07:25
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Arrickwhatup DBO07:25
Arricknight all07:25
DBOhowdy Arrick, leaving?07:25
ferronica1zcat[1] = in Time and date setting should i check periodically synchronize07:25
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Arrickyeah, gotta get some sleep, been up 52 hours straight between work and my server07:25
metatagArrick : gud night07:25
zcat[1] ferronica: good idea, yes..07:26
ferronica1zcat[1] = sure???07:26
Arricknight metatag07:26
alekzDBO, he is not in the list07:26
ferronica1zcat[1] = and what server to select07:26
metatagArrick : u are kind hearted07:26
zcat[1] whatever is the default..07:26
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DBOalekz, did you make sure he is assigned a valid shell *note this does not mean an actual shell, just a valid one listed in /etc/shells07:27
Kane666well ive set up SpoonProxy and configured my ubuntu apps to connect through it... but sometimes (i dont know why..) i get a connection refused. And no one has even touched the windows machine (hosting spoonproxy)07:27
metataghi dfgas07:27
ArrickI hate that07:27
Kane666any ideas?07:27
metatagArrick : hate wat?07:27
Arrickread your pm07:27
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ferronica1zcat[1] = nothing is selected07:27
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alekzDBO, yes /bin/bash shell07:27
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DBOalekz /etc/proftpd.conf -> pastebin07:27
metatagArrick : kind hearted stuff?07:27
dougie_hi guys - is this the right place for a newbie question about USB?07:28
dfgasmetatag, hello07:28
alekzDBO, a second pls07:28
tritiumyes, dougie_07:28
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metatagdfgas : wats up?07:28
dbernar1Hi. My system clock gets reset to 1904 every time I shut down my computer. What can be done for this not to happen?07:28
varsendaggerI have qjackctl running and i also shound sorta working  i think, anyway   i get microphone playing on my speakers but when i hit the record button all i get is nothing, i don't know if i am doing it right07:28
twidgetare there drivers for an HP scanjet 2400?07:28
zcat[1] ferronica: don't worry about it, just make sure the timezone is correct and synchronise once. It should come up with the correct time.07:28
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DBOdbernar1, sounds like your CMOS battery is dead07:28
zcat[1] dbernar1: replace CMOS battery07:28
Arrickdbernar1, new cmos battery?07:28
dbernar1It is a new computer.07:29
DBOjinx07:29
dougie_cool - quick question - I have a 3M Microtouch monitor - going thru a HOWTO just now and it talks about setting the device in xorg.conf to configure07:29
varsendaggerit's unanomous07:29
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dfgasthinking of taking ubuntu off of here and just leaving windows and putting ubuntu on my p4 1.4gig with onbaord raid.07:29
twidgetDBO, double jinxx07:29
dougie_my problem is I don't know what USB device to reference for the touchsreen07:29
IT_chickHello everyone07:29
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metatagtritium : spelling class?07:29
DBOdbernar1, it sounds like you still have a bad CMOS battery07:29
zcat[1] return computer, ask them to check if they put a CMOS battery in.07:29
DBOhello IT_chick07:29
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|Sivik|!deb07:29
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)07:29
IT_chickCan someone recommend a good iso burning software?07:29
dbernar1DBO: how do I confirm this?07:29
ferronica1zcat[1] = and what server to select07:29
tritiummetatag: for all your spelling errors (e.g., u, wat, etc.)07:29
DBOIT_chick, k3b07:29
twidgetan IT chick?!?! Where?!?! :D07:29
IT_chicklol twidget07:30
|Sivik|but is she cute?07:30
zcat[1] p.ubuntu.org or whatever is the default..07:30
blindwho cares?07:30
tritiumIT_chick: nautilus works just fine07:30
DBOdbernar1, they are like 5 dollar oversized watch batteries, get a new one and see if it helps =P07:30
IT_chicklol07:30
zcat[1] ntp.ubuntu.org or whatever is the default..07:30
dfgaslmao07:30
IT_chickthank you tritium07:30
zcat[1] damn keyboard :)07:30
|Sivik|IT_chick: are you hot?07:30
alekzDBO, there u have: http://pastebin.com/71483607:30
metatagtritium : oh i am sorry, i think its the sms bug07:30
dfgasomg omg a chick is in here07:30
dbernar1DBO: I just bought this powerbook. Stupid computer.07:30
IT_chickI have a pic rofl if you guys want to see07:30
twidgetall I know is: there's too damn few many IT chicks07:30
dfgasno way07:30
linuxcrazywow!!07:30
|Sivik|IT_chick: yes, please07:30
linuxcrazyyes07:30
tritiummetatag: yeah, it is ;)07:30
dfgasthat can't happen07:30
linuxcrazyyes07:30
DBOdbernar1, well theres your problem right there...  you bought a powerbook *runs*07:30
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IT_chicklet me grab the linksies07:31
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ferronica1zcat[1] = nothing is selected07:31
ferronica1zcat[1] = which one to select???07:31
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twidgetyou know... grammar police07:31
|Sivik|!deb07:31
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)07:31
dbernar1twidget: we only know of thought police.07:32
delmaranyone here running the latest Azureus on ubuntu 5.10? im having issues .. it wont start downloading... tested the same torrents on a windows box and they scream... im wondering about the JRE/Java stuff that ubuntu 5.10 has by default but i dont wanna mess with that because I like OpenOffice ..unbroken :P.  Anyone have any suggestions or be able to help?07:32
zcat[1] I don't know.. don't worry about NTP, just set the time manually.07:32
DBOdbernar1, ok your ftp server needs to be secured, let me modify this file for you.  Also what usernames do you want to allow to log in?07:32
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dfgaswhy do people make such a big deal when they find out the person is a chick07:32
IT_chickhttp://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/safyra/STEPH5.jpg theres your link07:32
twidgetso, anybody have any ideas about the hp scanjet 2400?07:32
ferronica1zcat[1] = ok let me boot again and let me check my BIOS time??07:33
IT_chicklol good question dfgas :)07:33
ferronica1zcat[1] = ok let me boot again and let me check my BIOS time07:33
zcat[1] dammit my mouse has gone now..07:33
dbernar1DBO: you mean someone else.07:33
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alekzwas that for me DBO ?07:33
zcat[1] ahh, it's back again :)07:33
siriusnovahey guys where does totem store its played file history07:33
ferronica1zcat[1] = what u think it should correct or what, if incorrect should i correct it to my local time????07:33
zcat[1] damn dodgy laptop!07:33
CaptainMorgangaim able to send files?? damn thing is buggin07:33
DBOalekz, yes you07:33
ferronica1:(07:33
zcat[1] ferronica: it should be set to your local time like WIndows likes..07:34
DBOdbernar1, my mistake07:34
alekzDBO, ok allow users: alekz ciberboy ximp <---those 3 pls07:34
IT_chickThe website for Nautilus says that is should already be installed07:34
IT_chickhmm07:34
IT_chickI will be back in just a moment going to try to find it.07:34
tritiumIT_chick: you're using gnome?  right-click on the .iso file you want to burn07:34
ferronica1zcat[1] = ok let me boot my computer again, stay in channel07:34
zcat[1] ferronica; when you boot back to Linux, linux will also expect it to be local time now..07:34
dfgasIT_chick, there are some smart people out there that can use something else than ms and we havve to make a big deal when someone has chick or woamn in the name cause somepeople think its  the onlu one in here07:34
tritiumIT_chick: nautilus is the file manager/graphical shell07:35
dfgashmmm, i need an invoicing program for nix, any ideas?07:35
IT_chickThanks I cant believe I didnt think of right clicking on it07:35
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OhzieHey! :) My xserver closes when I hit shift+backspace, as well as ctrl+shift+backspace. I was wondering if there's anyway I can modify it so that shift+backspace doesn't do that anymore.07:36
Kr0ntabhow ya folks doing?07:36
wizzlefishI'm having a problem with my laptop: Whenever I close the lid, if I lift it back up it usually gives me a password prompt (in GNOME), but recently it hasn't been working, and I just get a blank screen, which makes me reboot. The same happens in Fluxbox, Blackbox, or Enlightenment...07:36
amphiOhzie: xmodmap perhaps - or use the DontZap option07:36
DBOalekz, http://pastebin.com/714845 That should get you going just right and a little more secure.  For better security move the whole deamon to a chroot07:36
alekzok DBO let me try thanks =)07:37
zcat[1] wizzlefish: you're lucky. Hibernate has _never_ worked for me!!07:37
DBOalekz, dont forget to do "sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart" once you are done making the changes07:37
alekzyes DBO =)07:37
IT_chickalright a silly question i am sure07:37
DBOzcat[1] , is your swap file large enough and are you running nvidia drivers?07:37
amphizcat[1] : really? swsusp works like a charm here07:37
wizzlefishzcat[1] : well, it probably won't ever work for me either, unless I can get this fixed...which I should be able to07:37
zcat[1] Umm.. no and yes :)07:37
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IT_chickI dont really use IRC so can you tell me why some of the people who say something to me are in red?07:38
amphizcat[1] : heh07:38
ferronica1zcat[1] : again same thing???07:38
DBOzcat[1] , well, now you know why =P07:38
Dr_WillisIT_chick,  like this?07:38
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tritiumIT_chick: nick highlighting07:38
amphiIT_chick: it highlights remarks addressed to you07:38
dfgasIT_chick, highlite for someone that says your nick07:38
ferronica1just rebooted my pc correct my BIOS time,07:38
|Sivik|IT_chick: does this do it?07:38
Dr_WillisIT_chick,  red with Rage. :P lol.07:38
ferronica1zcat[1] : ubuntu showing me incorrect time07:38
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Kr0ntabhehe I think she got the point07:38
IT_chicklol yes exactly07:39
ferronica1zcat[1] : what to do now07:39
Dr_Willisshe? girls dont use computers! :p07:39
zcat[1] ferronica: what's the timezone set to?07:39
IT_chicknext time i'll google it :P07:39
wizzlefishso does anyone know if there is a way to lock the screen when I close the lid?07:39
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IT_chickpfft Dr. Willis07:39
ferronica1zcat[1] : ASIA07:39
IT_chickI'll ignore that you said that07:39
DBOwow, I havent seen a person get this much action in this channel since someone walked in with the nick "17Breezy-SummeR-girl"07:39
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IT_chickO and if thats the case you better call someone and tell them to take my certs away07:39
wizzlefishhah! "17Breezy-SummeR-girl?!"07:39
OhzieDr_Willis: That's hot. Very hot. >=)07:39
ferronica1zcat[1] : here actual time is 11:10AM07:40
zcat[1] I give up.. just set the damn timezone to UTC. It's the wrong answer but at least it works :)07:40
Dr_WillisOhzie,  its amazing the # of mice she breaks.07:40
ferronica1zcat[1] : but ubuntu showing me 4:41 PM07:40
amphiwizzlefish: you could see if an acpi script could invoke xscreensaver/xlockmore perhaps07:40
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FR500hello07:40
wizzlefishamphi - thanks, I'll check that out07:40
alekzDBO, look pls: proftpd - Fatal: AllowUser: directive not allowed in server config context on line 40 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'07:40
ferronica1zcat[1] : ok how to check yes in UTC07:41
Drac|WinAnyone? I really need to get mount to work, and I'd rather not burn a Live CD just to be able to mount things and such. I'm in an ASH console shell within the Ubuntu PPC installer CD.07:41
amphiwizzlefish: does suspend to ram not work there, or is that not what you want?07:41
ferronica1zcat[1] : what is the command07:41
varsendaggerdfgas, were you asking about an invoicing program?07:41
DBOalekz, my mistake, I see the error, let me fix it07:41
varsendaggeri don't know07:41
alekzthanks dbernar107:41
alekz*thanks dbo07:41
dfgasvarsendagger, yah, any good ones for nix?07:41
ferronica1zcat[1] : how to set my default UTC=yes07:41
wizzlefishno, I just want to be able to close the lid of my laptop, leaving it on, and open it up, with the monitor turning back on07:41
wizzlefish(amphi)07:42
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ferronica1zcat[1] : what is that command07:42
Dr_WillisASH? not bash?07:42
tritiumferronica1: stop repeating please07:42
ferronica1zcat[1] : please tell me then07:42
tritiumpatience07:42
zcat[1] ferronica1: leave that how it is.. right click on clock07:42
DBOalekz, http://pastebin.com/71485207:42
dbernar1alekz: the triangle of missnicking has come to a full circlee.07:42
alekzlet me try dbo =)07:42
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alekzlol07:42
dbernar1pentagon07:43
DBOdbernar1, you are the first nick twin I have had in a while =P07:43
metatagstop trolling07:43
amphiwizzlefish: does 'echo mem | sudo tee /sys/power/state' suspend to ram there?07:43
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varsendaggerdfgas, i don't know of any07:43
amphiwizzlefish: it does here, and I have that invoked by the acpi lid script07:43
wizzlefishamphi - well, I don't want to turn off the computer...07:43
IT_chickokay everyone07:43
IT_chicki'm off07:43
IT_chicklets see if this ISO will boot!07:44
Kr0ntabword...07:44
amphiwizzlefish: well, try that when you're ready07:44
Kr0ntab:-P07:44
metataghi IT_chick07:44
IT_chickO_O didy ou just say word?07:44
varsendaggerhey what does this mean:07:44
IT_chickHello metatag07:44
Kr0ntabeheh07:44
alekzDBO, user ximp cant still log in =(07:44
Kr0ntabyup07:44
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varsendaggerlsof | grep /dev/dsp07:44
DBOalekz, can ximp log in locally?07:44
wizzlefishamphi - does suspending to ram turn the computer off? is it like Hibernate in Windows?07:44
amphiwizzlefish: if that doesn't work, try s/mem/standby07:44
IT_chicklol thanks you gave me a good laugh Kr0n07:44
metatagIT_chick : byebye07:44
alekzyes DBO07:44
IT_chickbye meta07:44
amphiwizzlefish: no, it's 'sleep'07:44
DBOalekz, can your other two users log in?07:44
tritiumwizzlefish: not completely off.  It'll still drain some battery07:45
alekzyes DBO07:45
|Sivik|ok07:45
wizzlefishamphi - oh, alright...07:45
|Sivik|i installed crossover office via the dpkg and now i can't figure out how to run it07:45
wizzlefishwhere can I find this "acpi lid script?"07:45
metatagasl plz everyone07:45
varsendaggerlsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev07:45
Kr0ntabomg stfu07:45
Kr0ntabhehe07:45
tritiummetatag: NO!07:45
amphiwizzlefish: 'echo disk | sudo tee /sys/power/state' should suspend to disk assuming enough swap, swsusp support, and nothing going wrong ;)07:45
DBOalekz, put the output of "id ximp" and "id alekz" and "id ciberboy" to pastebin (all in one please)07:45
metatagtritium : no?07:46
alekzok DBO a second pls07:46
DBOalekz, also make sure ximp has a password07:46
tritiummetatag: I've already told you about offtopic questions like that07:46
|Sivik|after i install a program via dpkg, how do i run it?07:46
amphiwizzlefish: suspend to disk = hibernate; on power on, it'll boot as normal until swap on time, and then restore the state from disk07:46
metatagtritium : i guess so... kind of forgot07:46
amphimetatag: a/s/l/u surely ;)07:46
alekzDBO, http://pastebin.com/71485407:47
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varsendaggerwhat is u?07:47
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amphivarsendagger: uptime07:47
metatagtritium : am sure that deep inside you are kind hearted and u like to appear to be mean07:47
ASL-Puleeasehaha07:47
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metatagamphi : u?07:47
tritiummetatag: u?07:47
tritiummetatag: I'm asking you to stop the offtopic channel spam07:47
amphimetatag: 06:47:38 up 78 days07:47
|Sivik|!deb07:47
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)07:47
DBOalekz, does ximp have a password?07:47
alekzyes DBO07:48
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wizzlefishamphi - ok, that worked, but it's not quite what I want...07:48
metatagtritium : ok sorry.. you like to sound firm and harsh07:48
amphiwizzlefish: in what way?07:48
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DBOalekz, does ximp exist in /etc/ftpusers (I know, I asked before but I need you to make sure becuase by all rights he should be on...)07:48
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tritium*sigh*07:49
wizzlefishamphi - I just want it to put a screensaver on when I close the lid, and resume when I open the lid07:49
amphiwizzlefish: why do you want a screensaver when the lid is closed??07:49
wizzlefishor the monitor turned off and back on07:49
alekzDBO, i checked again and he is not07:49
metatagtritium : i guess am not helping ubuntu and FOSS in anyway07:49
tritiumwizzlefish: you'll like gnome-power-manager in dapper07:49
DBOalekz, do these users need local access?07:49
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alekzDBO, just alekz07:50
DBOalekz, do you have a file called /etc/shells?07:50
alekzyes dbo07:50
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DBOalekz, add a new shell to the end of that list by the name of /bin/ftponly07:51
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DBOalekz, then go into /etc/passwd and change the shell of ximp and ciberboy to /bin/ftponly07:51
metatagtritium : I hope we can be friends.. then we'll sing the free software song together07:51
wizzlefisharg...now xchat isn't working...07:51
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himsky1i have a new idea. one X window can use multi mouse. is it a good idea?07:51
metatagany have any idea of any tool one might use to configure dns?07:51
alekzdonde DBO07:51
alekz*done dbo07:52
DBOmetatag, BIND07:52
metatagDBO: BIND has gui /07:52
metatag?07:52
DBOalekz, restart your ftp server and see if you can log in (the users cand log in locally anymore)07:52
DBOmetatag, not that I know of, but it works pretty well for DNS07:52
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alekzDBO, a second pls07:52
himsky1i have a new idea. one X window can use multi mouse. is it a good idea?07:52
metatagDBO: thanks07:53
DBOhimsky1, it will work but they both would control the same cursor07:53
wizzlefishamphi - it worked, but I don't want the computer to shut down - just want it to go into a screensaver or something, and then ask for a password when I open it up07:53
alekzDBO, right, they cant login locally, ciberboy can login on ftp but ximp still cant =/07:54
DBOalekz, does ximps home directory exist?07:54
alekzyes dbo07:54
tritiumwizzlefish: have you edited /etc/acpi/lid.sh?07:54
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wizzlefishtritium: no, what do I do with it?07:54
DBOalekz are you use the CLI for your ftp login?  if so are you getting any errors?07:55
siriusnovayou know whats kinda neat07:55
Flanneltwidget: HP has released their printer/scanner stuff, so yeah.  it should work.07:55
siriusnovaDosbox runs faster on linux then windows07:55
siriusnovawhich is ironix07:55
tritiumwizzlefish: you can configure what the lid button does07:55
siriusnovaironic07:55
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himsky1My idea is control different program by multi mouse cursor.07:55
siriusnovai get no lag or problems at all in dosbox in ubuntu07:55
siriusnovain windows its slow07:55
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DBOhimsky1, go for it, linux is often a scratch your own itch proposal07:55
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amphiwizzlefish: then you want the acpi script to invoke xlockmore or some such; you will probably have to a) use sudo to have it run as your user, and b) set the DISPLAY variable07:56
alekzim sure DBO pls check this: http://pastebin.com/71485807:56
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metatag!compile07:56
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)07:56
metatagkewl! it works07:56
DBOalekz, try changing his password to something simple and try again07:57
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metatag!fstab07:57
ubotuthe /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.07:57
wizzlefisharg...won't let me open it07:57
metatag!fstab metatag07:58
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, metatag07:58
DBO!msg the bot07:58
valehruIs there any good image mounters in Linux'?07:58
ubotuPlease message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage07:58
zcat[1] !utc07:58
ubotuzcat[1] : Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:58
valehruISO mounters that is07:58
tritiumvalehru: mount07:58
amphiheh07:58
NoUse!mountiso07:58
ubotuTo mount an ISO image file, you can use "sudo mount -o loop <image-file> <mount-point>" from a shell (for example, "sudo mount -o loop Ubuntu.iso /mnt/loop", if /mnt/loop exists)07:58
twidgetFlannel, sorry, busy in another channel. Thanks07:58
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valehruahh cool07:58
valehruthx07:58
DBOvalehru, there was a guy in #ubuntu-offtopic that made a nice GUI frontend using python, I believe he calls it isomount.  Its really quite fantastic07:59
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valehrureally07:59
wizzlefishamphi - I don't know how to change it: in gedit or in terminal?07:59
valehrucool07:59
himsky1I hope to build a team to do this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?07:59
metatagok bye all07:59
wizzlefishI don't know what to change or how to change it08:00
alekzDBO, ximp is now in, but is not loging to his ~ =/08:01
DBOalekz, so he can see the entire directory tree?08:02
alekzDBO, yes08:02
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DBOalekz, check in /etc/passwd and make sure his home directory is /home/ximp08:02
amphiwizzlefish: the editor of your choice - you'll need magic root powers to edit a file under /etc/acpi - but perhaps gnome has an 'easier' way?08:02
alekzlet me check dbernar108:02
alekzlet me check dbo08:02
alekzsorry again08:02
alekzDBO, is asigned as /home2/xompi and yes /etc/passwd shows that08:03
himsky1I hope to build a team to do this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?08:03
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DBOalekz, does that directory exist?08:04
alekzyes dbo08:04
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DBOalekz, well color me confused...08:04
DBOalekz, does he have write access to anything?08:04
alekzdbo im confused too :S08:04
bewireHello, I try to figure out either to keep my amd64 bit install or reinstall with the 32 bit version. I will mostly use it as a desktop and maybe set up a webserver etc.08:05
wizzlefishthat's exactly what's wrong...I shut the screen, and the monitor goes off like it is supposed to, but then when I open the lid, the monitor doesn't come back on - what's wrong?08:05
wizzlefish(and it forces me to shut down)08:05
bewireHave problems with sound and complains of lacking w32 codecs etc ...08:05
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amphiwizzlefish: ah... try standby instead of mem, perhaps08:05
wizzlefishhow? where?, amphi?08:06
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amphiwizzlefish: acpi can be a PITA08:06
wizzlefishI don't know what that is08:06
alekzno DBO he hasnt write access08:06
DBOalekz, well I wouldnt really worry about it... but odd08:07
amphiwizzlefish: I assume there's a script under /etc/acpi - I find the sysfs interface is simple to use08:07
himsky1not one intersting this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?08:07
amphiwizzlefish: a pain in the donkey08:07
alekzDBO, let me remove the user and add it again u think that could help ?08:07
DBOcouldnt hurt08:07
alekza second08:07
wizzlefishhow do I get to the sysfs interface?08:07
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MM2I have 17 machines with wartywarthog. Can I upgrade them directly to BreezyBadger?08:08
amphiwizzlefish: cat /sys/power/state08:08
FlannelMM2: no.  you have to go through hoary.08:08
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amphiwizzlefish: you could paste the output in here08:08
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wizzlefishwhat's the output, and where do I find it, amphi? I'm sort of new to Linux, as you can tell...08:09
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amphiwizzlefish: open a term, and do 'cat /sys/power/state'08:09
wizzlefishit just says "standby mem disk"08:09
amphiwizzlefish: is there no gnome configurator for this, that you might find easier?08:09
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wizzlefishamphi - not that I can find, and right now I'm in Fluxbox...08:10
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tritiumwizzlefish: there will be in dappe08:10
amphiwizzlefish: you can do it manually; like I said before, 'echo standby | sudo tee /sys/power/state' should put it in standby mode (light sleep)08:11
wizzlefishok, I'll try that...08:11
MM2what was that one liner to replace warty with hoary in sources.list?08:11
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amphiwizzlefish: doing the same, but with 'mem' instead of 'standby' should put it in a heavier sleep; one of these two, at least, may not work08:11
alekzdbo can u check something logining into my ftp server ?08:12
bewireHi, anyone with some good advice about amd64 bit istall vs 32bit install ?08:12
amphiwizzlefish: once you know which one behaves, you can make sure the script under /etc/acpi that is invoked when you close the lid is using that08:12
DBOalekz, once more with clarity08:12
amphiwizzlefish: or not have the script do anything, ignore the lid event08:12
alekzDBO, can u login into my ftp server as xompi and see what's happening? i just dont get it08:13
wizzlefishso closing the lid does nothing?...that would probably work...08:13
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DBOalekz, sure, pm the username, password, and IP08:13
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amphiwizzlefish: depends what you want it to do; I used to have mine hibernate on lid close08:14
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DBOmmmm laaaag...08:14
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wizzlefishok, I just want xscreensaver to run, how would I modify lid.sh?08:14
wizzlefish(amphi)08:14
DBOalekz, its working perfectly, hes locked into his home directory (it looks like)08:15
alekznice DBO so he cant surf on entire system right ?08:16
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DBOalekz, there, I just uploaded a file to his home directory that sings 99 bottles of beer on the wall to you using festival (great for annoying people)08:16
DBObut I cant go anywhere but his home directory08:16
amphiwizzlefish: dunno offhand - 'DISPLAY=:0 xscreensaver-command -lock' or summat, perhaps; I have no idea whether that'll work, I've never tried to run an X prog from an acpi script ;)08:16
wizzlefishhow would I make it do nothing?08:17
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ztonzyhey and good morning, is there channel dedicated to dapper development, questions regarding installation ?08:17
wizzlefishjust comment out the entire acpi script?08:17
amphiztonzy: #ubuntu+108:17
tritium!dapper08:17
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)08:17
DBOalekz, there reason his working directory shows as / is because we chrooted (change root) him into his home directory08:17
ztonzyamphi, ah, thanks08:17
alekz:o i see DBO08:17
amphiwizzlefish: I don't know what's in it08:17
alekzDBO, lot of thanks you rocks =D08:18
amphiwizzlefish: you could pastebin it08:18
DBOalekz, you are secure, he has ftp access =)  good luck08:18
DBOalekz, change that password08:18
alekzDBO, one more think can i ask u ?08:18
alekzi'll do dbo08:18
DBOsure08:18
alekz=)08:18
alekzhow can i asing a limited quote ?08:18
wizzlefishamphi08:18
DBOalekz, you want to set a disk quota you mean, so they cant exceed a certain limit?08:19
alekzDBO, t's right08:19
amphiwizzlefish: hang on08:20
DBOalekz, thats a bit more invasive, but you can get started by looking here http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/admin-primer/s1-storage-quotas.html (I recognize thats for redhat, but it has the same basic info)08:20
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amphiwizzlefish: I am experimenting ;)08:20
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alekzi'll check it DBO lot of thanks =)08:21
varsendaggerhey can anyone help me set up alsa to record with my microphone?08:21
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WhatTheDeuceHey.  I'm using Kubuntu, and I'm just wondering, is there any way I can switch Ctrl and Caps-Lock in KDE without making a .xmodmap file?08:22
wizzlefishhttp://pastebin.com/714869 <--there's my lid.sh file, amphi08:22
Skwidamphi: wow, i'm really screwed up now ... lol08:22
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mlalkakais there a defragmentation tool for ext3 filesystems? does ext3 need such a tool?08:24
spikebthere might be, and not really08:24
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zcat[1] mlalkaka: yes, no..08:25
monsterb!defragmentation08:25
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, monsterb08:25
monsterb!defrag08:25
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, monsterb08:25
mlalkakawhat if you want to resize an ext3 partition? wouldn't you need to defrag it first?08:26
amphiwizzlefish: there are problems calling an X prog from an acpi script08:26
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wizzlefishamphi - so what should I do? Could I make the script not execute anything?08:26
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amphiwizzlefish: that almost does what you want, looks like08:27
wizzlefishamphi: how would I do that?08:27
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brettzillai cannot figure this out for the life of me.08:28
wizzlefishamphi: just remove 'xscreensaver-command -deactivate'?08:28
wizzlefishand leave empty quotes?08:28
zcat[1] mlalkaka: sudo apt-get install defrag   .. and have fun.08:28
paradizelostnvidia geforce go 6800, opengl apps like glxgears are just a black box on Xgl08:28
brettzillaanyone good with compiz?08:28
paradizelosti've tried the other rooms but no one answer08:29
alekzthanks DBO =) cya later08:29
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amphiwizzlefish: you could change deactivate to lock, perhaps08:29
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DBOparadizelost, did you install nvidia drivers from nvidia's website?08:29
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paradizelostDBO: used easyubuntu08:30
paradizelosti'll try from the site.08:30
DBO!nvidia08:30
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:30
wizzlefishok, good night...I'll figure this out in the morning...08:30
Drac|WinIs the shell in the install CD part of the kernel, or separate?08:30
Drac|WinIs it part of the initrd image?08:30
brettzilla!reinstall compiz08:30
ubotubrettzilla: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:30
brettzilla:/08:30
himsky1I hope to build a team to do this MultiCursor GNU project, anyone join US?08:31
XenguyDrac|Win: the shell is pretty core08:31
DBOshell does not run in kernel space08:31
brettzillaanyone else have issues with compiz & pink/colored shadows?08:31
Drac|WinXenguy: So replacing the initrd and kernel will change the nature of the shell? I think I have something wrong with one of the two, because my shell is acting weird. Mount won't mount things... Gives "Invalid argument" to everything.08:32
DBObrettzilla, check out #ubuntu-xgl for that kind of help08:32
brettzillathank you08:32
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XenguyDrac|Win: what DBO said - the shell should be part of a 'basic' install08:32
Kyynarais it possible to apt-get install from a dapper repositorie to breezy?08:32
DBODrac|Win, what shell are you using?08:32
zcat[1] Kyynara: yes but not a good idea.08:33
monsterbDBO: dapper has lastest nvidia drivers08:33
Kyynarazcat[1] : if I just want to update one library08:33
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Drac|WinDBO: The shell in the install CD itself. I'm messing with a Mac, and I have to use the ASH shell on the CD to do things. It's worked fine in the past... today, in fact. This time around it's not working right, and I don't know why. I followed the same procedure as always.08:33
Kyynaraor do you recommend doing it manually?08:33
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DBOmonsterb, not afaik, they are using the 8178 series, current is 875608:33
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spazzzHey... Can anyone help me out with a few network issues?  I need to set up WPA on my wireless card and configure IPTables through firestarted08:34
zcat[1] Kyynara: not sure really.08:34
varsendaggerALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave08:34
varsendaggeralsa-init: playback open error: Device or resource busy08:34
DBODrac|Win, so you are using a live CD?08:34
varsendaggerhelp me please08:34
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DBO!WPA08:35
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ubotuEnable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details08:35
hanasakiin bash.. how do i set a variable        export a.b = test08:35
DBO!firestarter08:35
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.08:35
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monsterbDBO: check again, im using 875608:35
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Drac|WinDBO: No. That's downloading as we speak as a last resort. You see, I'm going into the shell by booting the install CD and hitting option+F2 (same as ctrl+alt+F2 on PCs) and hitting 'Enter' to enable the shell.08:35
hastesavervarsendagger, have you read !sound ?08:35
DBOmonsterb, oh well, so why did you mention that in the frist place?  (I am using 8756 myself anyhow)08:35
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hanasakithe "." i sneeded and is ajn issue :(08:36
monsterbDBO: sorry, thought u needed lastest drivers08:36
DBODrac|Win, oh I see, Im not sure how that works08:36
spazzzDBO: Already have firestarter i'm just haveing some small issues configuring it... but thats not as important to me as getting WPA working at the moment08:36
DBOmonsterb, nope, I was just explaing to a guy that needed 3D support how to get nvidia drivers08:36
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DBO!tell spazzz about WPA08:37
DBOcheck out the link ubotu sent you08:37
monsterbDBO: ok08:37
Drac|WinDBO: Are you familiar with the ASH shell? It's like a simpler form of BASH. mount acts the same way, but right now it's not acting the way it's supposed to at all...08:37
spazzzDBO: I already did that as well.....  I'm not so stupid as to not have already looked at the WIKI and GOOGLE before comming here.08:38
DBODrac|Win, I was more talking about the environement it is working in when you do that... I would suggest using a live CD instead08:38
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spazzzDBO: No offence intended.08:38
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DBOspazzz, none taken, but please understand that 90% of the people who do come here have not done either08:38
varsendagger!sound08:38
ubotuHelp to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary08:38
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ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:38
Drac|WinDBO: Okay. I've done it with the install CD plenty of times, though. I'm going to try replacing the vmlinuz kernel and initrd image first.08:38
spazzzDBO: *smiles* I'm aware.  No I already have firestarter and wpasupplicant.  I'm not having luck getting either to work well and I was hoping for some more experianced guideance.08:39
himsky1I hope to build a team to do this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?08:39
himsky1I hope to build a team to do this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?08:39
himsky1I hope to build a team to do this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?08:39
DBO!ops08:39
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!08:39
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spazzzThank you.08:40
spikebwhew08:40
rob:)08:40
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spazzzOk now where were we?08:40
DBOspazzz, well my experience is limited in the area (dont use wireless) but a common mistake made is that people dont remember to use the hex values for the wireless key...08:40
DBOother than that, Im fairly useless to you08:41
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monsterbhimsky1: link to RealMultiCursor?08:41
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DBOhe just came up with the idea monsterb, he wants to use two mice to control two cursors on one x windows08:41
spazzzDBO: well the WIKI was pretty straight forward.  It told me how to get the crypto key from my passphrase but it never said anything about HEX.08:41
DBOspazzz, Im pretty sure it wants the hex value (at least thats how it worked for the WEP)08:42
spazzzDBO: let me find what I was reading so you can see what I went by.08:42
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dibblegoif you're using WEP enter a 26 digit hex value08:42
spazzzDBO: WEP does want HEX values but I don't belive WPA does.08:42
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spazzzand I don't want to use WEP because I live in an apartment complex and it's not as strong as I'd like08:42
monsterbDBO: oh08:42
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DBOspazzz, yeah, no idea here, dont use wireless.  Ask your question again so newcommers to the area can get a fresh look =)08:43
spazzzhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto08:43
spazzzThats the site I was going by.08:43
dibblegotrying to install ssh from Synaptic and it keeps asking for my Dapper CD - can't it just download it?08:43
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DBOdibblego, disable the entry in /etc/apt/sources.list that says cdrom (comment it out, probably first entry)08:44
spazzzI'm trying to enable WPA encryption on my new wireless card.  I also would like some help in configuring IPTABLES through Firestarter I keep knocking my web access out with it ;-)08:44
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EDIJUSi have good idea... Ubuntu have nice logon sound, can i copy it to windows?08:45
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dibblegonow OpenSSH server is not available from Synaptic08:45
DBOdibblego, /etc/apt/sources.list -> pastebin08:46
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dibblegoone sec, I'm VNCed to the machine and it insists on 640x48008:47
spazzzYay booted08:48
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odathello08:50
orlandohello08:50
EDIJUShi08:50
odatcan you upgrade from debian to ubuntu?08:50
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dibblegohttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WfNtwy95.html08:51
DBOodat, debian -> ubuntu upgrades are not supported, but have been done in the past08:51
DBOthe best option is to do a clean install08:51
dibblegothat is sources.list08:51
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dibblegowait, the machine has DNS problems - maybe that is it08:52
ubuntuneildapper08:52
ubuntuneil!dapper08:52
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)08:52
DBOdibblego, yes, that would prevent updates from working08:52
dibblegowhere does one set DNS server(s)?08:52
DBO/etc/resolv.conf08:52
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ubuntuneilhow do i reconfigure screen resolution?08:53
DBOSystem -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution08:54
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ubuntuneilno, i mean in command line08:54
DBOsudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:54
tritiumubuntuneil: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:54
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tritium!fixres08:55
ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:55
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dibblegook, DNS issue fixed - still no openssh server available through Synaptic08:56
MM2Can I dist-upgrade from hoary to dapper?08:57
DBOdibblego, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server08:57
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DBOMM2, I believe you need to go hoary -> breezy -> dapper...08:57
MM2is there howto from hoary -> breezy?08:58
DBO!upgrade08:58
MM2I found nice one from warty -> hoary08:58
zcat[1] !reinstall08:58
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zcat[1] 08:58
DBO!tell MM2 about upgrade08:58
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MM2DBO: ty08:59
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SpazzzIIDarnet09:00
SpazzzIIWhy won't this work09:00
WillieDaPimp!fixres09:00
ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:00
dlihow do I get boot device menu from a thinkpad?09:01
rafalhello - what is better way : -upgrade breezy to dapper or install new dapper from CD?09:01
DBOnew instal is best if possible09:01
rafalok thank you ;)09:02
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SpazzzII*sighs* This is incredibly frustrating.09:02
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SpazzzIIDoes anyone in the room know anything about getting WPA to work on a Wireless card?09:03
firebird619Recently my kernel was updated through Ubuntu09:04
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hintswenhi, i just put a second hdd in my computer and it's not being detected09:04
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hintswendo i need to partition it or something? and if so how?09:04
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pike__hintswen: you need to create at least one partition and then format it09:05
firebird619Recently my kernel was updated through Ubuntu Software update and now the kernel is 2.6.12-9-386, but the linux headers are still 2.6.10-5. Should they be updated as well?09:05
hintswenasnd how do i do that(preferably without losing anything)09:05
DBOfirebird619, yes, did you just upgrade from hoary?09:05
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firebird619DBO, No, I have had Breezy since it's release but I get behind on updates because I only have dial-up and can only download a little at a time.09:06
crimsunfirebird619: no, you'd have to manually upgrade them, since linux-headers is only a virtual package09:06
EDIJUS send me Ubuntu logon sound.09:06
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DBOcrimsun, the linux-headers package depends on the latest linux headers I though09:06
DBOt09:06
pike__hintswen: i normally use cfdisk /dev/hda or hdb whatever then mkfs to format.  but ubuntu has a gui tool09:06
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cynehi all09:06
cynewhen is the new ubuntu due out?09:06
crimsunDBO: linux-headers is virtual.09:07
hintswenpike__ can you tell me how to use it?09:07
DBOcrimsun, I know, but I still thought it recieved updates so it would depend on the new headers...09:07
SaLoMoNhintswen, use gparted09:07
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crimsunDBO: linux-headers-$(uname -r) is updated, yes, but note that there's no metapackage for it installed by default, therefore there's nothing to dist-upgrade automatically09:08
hintsweni need instructions lol. i suck atubuntu09:08
pike__hintswen: might be easier to use gparted. ive never used it i dont know if its installed by default09:08
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hintswenwell where can i find it?09:08
hastesavercyne, June 109:08
firebird619crimsun: I know I would have to update the headers through Synpatic, I just wanted to know if I should update them. Also, I am assuming I should remove the old headers after the update.09:08
DBOcrimsun, ok, yes, it had not occured to me that linux-headers-`uname -r` is not in default install09:08
cynehastesaver, ok09:08
pike__sudo apt-get install gparted or if its already installed type gparted in a terminal09:09
firebird619Also, I think the old linux-image files are in there from 2.6.10-5, should they also be removed.09:09
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crimsunfirebird619: you should install (you can't update because it's a completely new abi) it if you're planning to compile external kernel modules, yes. You don't have to uninstall the older ones if you don't wish, but I generally do to save space.09:10
crimsunfirebird619: I would always keep at least one set of older working kernel(s)09:10
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ronickshow do i format a hard disk09:14
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pike__ronicks: what format?09:14
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jtmoneyso, i was considering trying out suse 10.1... it's been available on CD since 5/11, but not out on DVD until 5/18... sticking w/ ubuntu because of stupid shit like that09:14
roryyronicks: first partition the disk, and then use mkfs to format the partition09:14
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firebird619crimsun: Ok, I am asking this because when trying to install, I beileve it is a module of some sort, for my Digital Camera to get live video from it, it is saying there is no such file or directory as /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build. I assumed may this had to do with not having the 2.6.12-9-386 headers installed.09:14
monsterb!format09:14
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, monsterb09:14
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crimsunfirebird619: uname -r09:15
firebird619crimson: uname -r returns 2.6.12-9-38609:15
WarOfAttritiondoes anyone use fluxbox?09:16
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WarOfAttritionit's locking everything up for me09:17
ronicksformat using linux os09:17
monsterbronicks: I like QTparted and Gparted to format.09:17
vitryI people; I need run a SB XFi under linux. Is it possible?09:17
vitryat this time09:17
crimsunvitry: no.09:17
vitryXD :(09:18
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vitryand in the future?09:18
crimsunvitry: possibly.09:18
vitry:/09:18
firebird619crimsun: any idea what might be causing that message of No such file or directory?09:18
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vitryok thanks; I'm writing a letter to creative every week09:20
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crimsunfirebird619: you should probably be running 2.6.12-10.3809:20
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crimsunfirebird619: which means you need to reboot into it then install linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:20
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WillieDaPimpyea! i finally got my xorg.conf fixed, now i have a screen resolution that works09:21
vitryand they thell me that linus is not suported09:21
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DBOfirebird619, you need to "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname-r`" to get past that error message09:21
glickhey is there anyway i can run gnome 2.14 on dapper?09:21
DBOglick, dapper comes with gnome 2.1409:21
Madpilotglick, I thought Dapper had 2.14 by default09:22
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glickoh, sweetness09:22
firebird619crimsun:  DBO: Ok, Thanks for the help.09:22
crimsunglick: / Madpilot: it does. 2.14.1, in fact09:22
glickwhens dapper due for release?09:22
crimsunglick: 1 June09:22
DBOfirebird619, oops, just read crimsuns message, yeah, he already said what I said... silly me09:22
glicknice09:22
glickcant wait09:22
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X3n0ni upgraded from 5.10 to 6.04 and it downloaded 1GB09:24
DBOX3n0n, congrats?09:24
X3n0ni see that it downloaded the whole kde! with all the games!09:24
X3n0nit still installes09:24
MadpilotX3n0n, you must have had a lot of stuff installed09:24
X3n0nindeed09:25
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DBOX3n0n, it downloads a newer version of almost everything on your system09:25
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X3n0nso it downloads the dapper version of every prog that i have?09:25
glickim not a big kde fan09:25
glickim running it now09:25
MadpilotX3n0n, yes09:25
DBOX3n0n, almost every prog yes09:25
glicki dont get what all the hubub about kde is all about09:25
X3n0nthat's why09:25
glickit mostly annoys me09:26
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X3n0ni use gnome, but it is usefull to have kde installed09:26
X3n0neven if i rarely use it09:26
=== zcat[1] downloaded 1425 packages, 1100 MB .. then it broke and I ended up doing a clean isntall anyhow..
zcat[1] I used to run kde but I think I like gnome better now..09:27
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HunterZhi09:27
DBOKDE or GNOME, both are fine choices, lets leave it there =)09:27
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DBOhi HunterZ09:27
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DBOhi ompaul =)09:27
JonathanKent!restricted09:27
ubotuit has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats09:27
X3n0nit should have finished by now but i was sleeping and i couldn't configure some things that it asked me to09:27
zcat[1] waiting for compiz to settle down. was good last week but I dunno what happened, there's some weird stuff in the latest debs..09:27
ompaulmorning09:27
glickfor some reason kde makes my fans run at top speed all the time09:28
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ompaulzcat[1] , that would be better in #ubuntu+1 perhaps :)09:28
sdraie I speak french09:28
DBO!fr09:28
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:28
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X3n0nand another upgrade question...the same procedure is used to upgrade from 6.04 to the stable one?09:32
Charbelhi09:32
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DBOX3n0n, once you have dapper installed, it will "upgrade" to stable automatically09:32
CharbelI'm using a windows box, to try to get help configuring ubuntu (5.10) to connect to the internet09:32
X3n0nbut is it going to take so much time again?09:33
monsterbCharbel: dialup or broadband ?09:33
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DBOX3n0n, nope, there are about 100 updates per day, so if you stay on top of them, its not that bad.  When the final release comes they will not be suddenly dropping another large bomb of updates09:33
MadpilotX3n0n, it shouldn't - you'll get a steady stream of smaller upgrades, though, from what I understand09:33
ompaulX3n0n, you have your directions wrong09:33
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Charbelmonsterb: it's a broadband,09:34
DBOCharbel, do you have a router?09:34
X3n0nompaul: what do you mean?09:34
ompaulX3n0n,  Dapper will become stable 6.06 and then you will only get security fixes09:34
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ompaulX3n0n,  unless there are compelling technical reasons for a change to a package09:35
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CharbelI have found on the forum an entry that explains exactly how to do in my case, the explanation is done for ubuntu 5.04, I have 5.10 and the connection doesn't work09:35
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ubuntu12Hi all!09:35
X3n0nompaul: yes but i talk about upgrading to 6.0609:35
ubuntu12How can I change the refresh rate in Ubuntu?09:35
ompaulX3n0n, from where?09:35
CharbelI have a sagem f@st 800 modem, my ISP is tiscalli UK09:35
DBOX3n0n, 6.04 = 6.0609:35
X3n0nompaul: from 6.0409:35
hastesaverX3n0n, there is no 6.0409:35
r0xoRhi ubuntu1209:35
ompaulX3n0n, there was no 6.0409:35
DBOthere is no spoon09:36
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DBO(sorry... couldnt help it...)09:36
X3n0nWhat version do i have now :confused:09:36
DBO6.0609:36
ubuntu12r0xoR, hi09:36
ompaulX3n0n, Dapper has existed since just after 5.10, the number indicates the release date09:36
hastesaverX3n0n, Dapper was supposed to be released 2006-04, but it got postponed to 2006-06. There's breezy (5.10) and then there's dapper (6.06)09:36
X3n0nnow i got it!09:36
ompaulX3n0n, the number is year month09:36
r0xoRUbugtu, applications menu09:36
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wahjavaHi group09:37
ubuntu12r0xoR, how can ge the refresh rate in ubuntu? I am using it for the first time now.09:37
X3n0ni know that.....the only thing about dapper maybe...09:37
r0xoRubuntu12, applications->system->preferences->screen resolution09:37
ompaul!resolution09:37
ubotuit has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:37
wahjavaI'm unable to shutdown my desktop from Power Button (in my chassis) after installing PowerManager09:37
DBOr0xoR, you got a macro for that or something?09:37
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r0xoRDBO, macro for what09:37
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wahjavaI've also installed gnome-power-manager, I'm on Breezy09:37
monsterbCharbel: are u using DHCP ?09:38
Charbelno ...09:38
Charbeladsl09:38
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ubuntu12r0xoR, yes, but I have only 60 Hz there.09:38
CharbelI found the driver (in ubuntu packages)09:38
CharbelI installed it09:38
ubuntu12r0xoR, my eyes hurt.09:38
DBOCharbel, sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth009:38
Charbeland in configuring it, I could even see my ISP in the list09:38
wahjavado I modify /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh or any other ways also possible09:38
CharbelI chose it09:39
r0xoRubuntu12, then read the link ubotu just gave you09:39
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ompaulubuntu12, you needed to read that link that was on the screen a moment ago: it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:39
Kane666hey09:39
ubuntu12r0xoR, Also, i am on the live CD now.09:39
wahjavaKane666: hey09:39
r0xoRoh... lol... live CD, heheh... good luck with that09:39
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r0xoRubuntu12, just curious... why do you need to change the refresh rate (of all things) on the live cd (of all systems)09:40
ubuntu12ompaul, ok, I am looking.09:40
Kane666has annyone here had this error with Audacity?  Error Initializing Audio I/O Layer, You will not be able to play or record audio09:40
X3n0nit erased the truetype fonts that i had installed :(09:40
wahjavaanything for me09:40
zcat[1] Kane666: yes. set esd to release the device faster, or just kill it.09:40
ubuntu12r0xoR, well, if ubuntu will support a higher resolution, I will install it, if not, then I have to try to configure it somehow ;)09:40
r0xoRwahjava, your guess is as good as mine09:41
Kane666zcat[1]  : what does that mea?09:41
Kane666*mean?09:41
wahjavar0bby: means09:41
DBOubuntu12, it does support a higher resolution, I run at 1600x1200 at 85Hz09:41
wahjavasorry for r0xor09:41
ompaulubuntu12, you have been given how to do it09:41
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hastesaverKane666, type "killall esd" before starting audacity.09:41
r0xoRubuntu12, naw, it's not ubuntu that supports the resolution, it's your kernel driver and your x driver plus your xorg.conf which "supports" your particular resolution09:41
glickhey what email clients do you guys (and gals) like to use?09:41
wahjavar0xoR: what do u mean ??09:41
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r0xoRwahjava, uhhh meaning... what exactly did you do that caused your power button to stop working?09:42
ubuntu12DBO, Um... I a a beginner in liunx and it shows :)09:42
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DBOglick, evolution is a mighty fine client for GNOME users09:42
zcat[1] Kane666: alt-F2 and type 'killall esd' in the box, then run audacity09:42
r0xoR!newbie09:42
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, r0xoR09:42
r0xoRheheh09:42
wahjavar0xoR: I've installed PowerManager09:42
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r0xoRwahjava, is that something i can get via synaptic?09:42
glickthere was something about evolution that bugged me, i cant remimber what it was not09:43
glicknow09:43
glickhow is thunderbird?09:43
DBOubuntu12, thats ok, in general though, fixing things on the LiveCD is a rather pointless thing to do...  if you want to fix your refresh rate you should do a full install09:43
r0xoRwahjava, ACPI isn't the most stable of systems... there are quirks with different mobo's and the kernel code is experimental in places09:43
WarOfAttritionthunderbird is simpler09:43
DBOglick, thunderbird isnt bad, but evolution provides a lot more PIM style stuff09:43
r0xoRubuntu12, yes, that's what i was saying... there's no point in "learning" how to configure the live CD... learn how to configure a "default" install09:44
hastesaverglick, it's fine. As good as any. It doesn't have the extra frills (calendar, ...) by default, IIRC09:44
r0xoRthunderbird == good for me09:44
ubuntu12DBO, I will sure do, but I want to be certain my hardware is supported.09:44
wahjavar0xoR: Previously I used to shutdown my comp from Power button09:44
r0xoRwahjava, so you would do what exactly?09:44
wahjavar0xoR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13892 is /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh09:44
DBOubuntu12, what video card do you have?09:44
r0xoRwahjava, press the button once? press the button and hold?09:44
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glicki wish mozilla would make the uptimate pim09:44
wahjavar0xoR: I don't want to do forcefully shutdown09:45
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WillieDaPimpif i have the nvidia-common-kernel installed do i also need the nvidia-glx installed?09:45
zcat[1] one of the live cd's (I think it was puppy) lets you write a multisession cD. The first session is the live CD and you can save settings and user files back to subsequent sessions. But generally live CD's are not designed for stuff like that..09:45
glickwerent they working on firebird or something?09:45
r0xoRi wish someone would make a decent calandar app that doesn't try to masquerade as a presentation program and email client all in one09:45
X3n0nsorry for being so annoying, but i want t oask something else......: will i be able to have 3d acceleration with an ATI X1300 (that's why i upgraded)09:45
ThinKingDoes the root account have a password in the live CD?09:45
r0xoRX3n0n, errr, if the drivers support your card then yes09:45
wahjavar0xoR: Holding button means OS is not participating in Shutdown09:45
ompaul!tell X3n0n about ati09:45
r0xoR!frglx09:45
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, r0xoR09:45
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wahjavar0xoR: so what I think is PowerManager is not properly configured.09:46
r0xoRwahjava, oh so you want the OS to register the powerbutton press and then do a regular "halt" type shutdown09:46
wahjavar0xoR: yup09:46
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wahjavar0xoR: that's I've also pasted my powerbtn.sh script at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1389209:47
r0xoRwahjava, well i'd say you're probably right... and then i'd say "why haven't you read the documentation about configuring yet?"09:47
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spazzzEUREKA.. I got WPA working!09:47
Kane666hastesaver: it worked! thanks. But could you please explain to me why i have to do this? (for future reference)09:47
WillieDaPimpso does anyone know, or should i just install it and see if my system breaks09:47
r0xoRwhutz wpa?09:47
hav0k i want to change whatever setting controls the audio for firefox so embedded stuff will play... cause right now, they wont play if i have anything else up that has sound09:47
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r0xoRWillieDaPimp, afaik you need glx too09:47
hav0kdoes anyone know how to change that setting... i guess the audio driver or whatever09:47
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wahjavar0xoR: there is no doc in /usr/share/doc and also no manpage for PowerManager09:47
r0xoRWillieDaPimp, but personally i just build the modules from the installer on the nvidia site09:48
WillieDaPimpr0xoR, i thought so, but i couldn't remember thanks09:48
hastesaverKane666, because esd (the so-called Enlightened Sound Daemon) has captured your audio, and audacity cannot use it until it is freed up09:48
spazzzr0xoR: It's an encryption scheme for wireless networks that isn't easily supported in Ubuntu and is something of a pain to set up09:48
r0xoRhmm, k09:48
ompaul**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then09:48
Kane666hastesaver: thanks for the info ;) but audacity isn't recording anything :S there is no 'spikes'09:48
WillieDaPimpr0xoR, is there any difference between the two different approaches??09:48
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wahjavar0xoR: sorry has manpage for power-manager, just listed package contents09:49
spazzzr0xoR: I've been trying to get it up all night and finaly got it working09:49
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r0xoRWillieDaPimp, much difference09:49
hav0k i want to change whatever setting controls the audio for firefox so embedded stuff will play... cause right now, they wont play if i have anything else up that has sound09:49
r0xoRWillieDaPimp, my approach requires recompiling a kernel09:49
spazzzOk now if someone would be so kind as to help me set up firestarter I'm good to go09:49
hastesaverKane666, you can also find the settings for esd and ask it to release the device sooner (it's probably set to some ridiculously high amount like 60 seconds)09:49
r0xoRWillieDaPimp, but my approach also leaves you free to compile any other outside kernel modules... like the manufacturer supplied network/ide/gfx/chipset drivers instead of the ones built into the linux kernel09:50
hastesaverKane666, oh, not recording anything? Are you sure the input volume is not set to 0? :)09:50
WillieDaPimpr0xoR, i just gave up using gentoo, after usign it for years, to try a version of linux that has less configuration, speed is good but to time consuming09:50
r0xoRWillieDaPimp, no i fully understand... i've been installing linux for years09:50
wahjavar0xoR: after starting gnome-power-manager manually I'm now getting some shutdown option in "Power Preferences" dialog box09:50
r0xoRWillieDaPimp, just had to do a dual boot... tried gentoo... after 8 hours of solid crying i tried ubuntu09:50
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Kane666hastesaver: ive increased the mic volume in volume control.. i dont know if thats all i have to change or not ?09:51
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spazzzOk is there an easy way to set up IPTABLES with FIRESTARTER so that everything besides all my services are blocked out?  I tried using the whitelist option but I ended up just killing my net connection09:51
r0xoRWillieDaPimp, i don't think i'll ever use gentoo again lol09:51
hastesaverKane666, I once spent a day trying to figure out why my audacity wasn't working, and it turned out input volume was set to 009:51
hastesaverKane666, look in Audacity09:51
ubuntu12Does Ubuntu have KDE installed ?09:51
ompaulspazzz, firestarter is just a front end for iptables09:51
r0xoRspazzz, maybe you should look into manually configuring iptables... basic firewalling like you're talking about is not hard09:51
WillieDaPimpr0xoR, i've been using linux since 94 or 95 and i've never had as much trouble with any other distro than with gentoo, but it is speedy09:51
ompaulubuntu12, you can install it with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or get the kubuntu CD09:52
r0xoRspazzz, allow from all; deny from ..., ...09:52
OculusAquilaeubuntu12: no, but kubuntu09:52
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fabiosalve09:52
glickhey whatever happened of mozilla firebird?09:52
r0xoRspazzz, er wait... lol deny from all; allow from 21, 80, 110, 2309:52
r0xoRetc etc09:52
OculusAquilaeubuntu12: for kubuntu see #kubuntu and kubuntu.org09:52
r0xoRso just allow from each of your services manually09:52
hastesaverubuntu12, not by default, but you can do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" (or get the kubuntu-desktop package via Synaptic)... About a hundred MB of download, though, IIRC09:52
Kane666hastesaver: lol yeh that fixed it ;)09:52
spazzzr0xoR ok but do I do that for everyone or just my IP address?09:52
zcat[1] Gotta love gentoo... http://www.funroll-loops.org/09:53
r0xoRerrrr...09:53
r0xoRthat's *your* iptables config you're talking about09:53
ompaul!offtopic09:53
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!09:53
r0xoRwhich i'm assuming is residing on your machine, which i'm assuming you use as a desktop?09:53
ubuntu12After unpacking 426MB of additional disk space will be used. Whoa!09:53
hav0kdoes anyone know how to change the audio for firefox to esd?09:53
zcat[1] sorry..09:53
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r0xoRspazzz, making firewall settings user specific is not something i know about09:53
DBOglick firebird became firefox09:53
Kane666hastesaver: do you know how to adjust the esd settings?09:54
ompaulzcat[1] , np, just stopping it before the line etc - ricer ricer ricer etc09:54
spazzzroxor: Sounds about right.  This is connected to my home network.09:54
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WillieDaPimpr0xoR, you know anything about getting SB Audigy Live! to work, i thought it uses the emu***  driver but ubuntu installed CA0106 drivers, and i get no sound09:54
glicki thought firebird was a calendering application09:54
DBOglick, thats sunbird09:54
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glickyeah!09:54
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bigfoot1how do i find my a:drive (floppy) in nautilus?09:54
glickwhatever happened to sunbird?09:54
DBOits still around09:54
bigfoot1it's the first time i'm using it. 8-)09:55
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hastesaverKane666, not offhand (I'm not using Gnome or esd); look in the menu at the top (Preferences -> sound server or something like that)09:55
DBObigfoot1, its in /mnt/floppy09:55
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glicklooks like its dead09:55
DBObigfoot1, its in /media/floppy09:55
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bigfoot1DBO: thanks09:55
bigfoot1dbo thanks again09:55
hav0kdoes anyone know how to change the audio for firefox to esd?09:55
DBO(ignore that I was totally wrong the first time please)09:55
bigfoot1i was savinvg a file into a:/foo.txt. 8-)09:55
high-freqi have a pcmcia wireless card..but lspci -v  aint listing it09:55
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high-freqhow do i "eanble" or whatever to see it09:56
DBOglick, afaik it is still under slow, but steady development09:56
Kane666hastesaver: nah i couldn't find it.. i'll just google it. thanks anyway09:56
bigfoot1DBO: is it /floppy or /floppy0?09:56
DBObigfoot1, well, windows converts gotta start somewhere =P09:56
DBObigfoot1, either or, they both point to the same thing09:56
spazzzr0xoR: I think thats right.09:56
Kane666hastesaver: whats it called... adjusting esd what?09:56
ompaul /dev/fd0        /media/floppy009:57
bigfoot1DBO: error: can't open file to write09:57
WillieDaPimpdoes anyone know how to get SB Audigy Live! working??09:57
bigfoot18-(09:57
bigfoot1dbo oh no09:57
DBOompaul, yeah, but by default there is a symlink in /media/floppy that points to /media/floppy009:57
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zcat[1] "ThunderFox is the lightweight mailclient for Windows, Linux and all other plattforms which support fltk and ruby."  -- oh crap!09:57
DBObigfoot1, what are you trying to do?09:57
bigfoot1i'm working on a text file09:57
bigfoot1i want to save it to my floppy09:57
bigfoot1that's all09:57
ompaulDBO, so let them mount /media/floppy (ohh how 16th century :))09:58
spazzzUgh... I really just need someone to walk me through this09:58
bigfoot1maybe it's because i haven't formatted the floppy yet?09:58
DBObigfoot1, save it to your home directory for now09:58
bigfoot1i have no idea09:58
bigfoot1DBO: ok09:58
spazzzThere are two many options and they arn't very discriptive09:58
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bigfoot1dbo done09:58
bigfoot1now what09:58
bigfoot1copy?09:58
zcat[1] people still use floppies? (you might also consider using mtools)09:59
ompaulbigfoot1, click on System Administration Disks and click on the floppy icon09:59
ompaulbigfoot1, AND make sure you umount  it before removing the disk09:59
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ompaulbigfoot1, OR use mtools09:59
DBObigfoot1, what ompaul said09:59
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bigfoot1i clicked on the floppy icon, ompaul10:00
bigfoot1but how do i save onto the floppy?10:00
ompaulzcat[1] , did not notice that until now - you win10:00
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ompaulbigfoot1, drag and drop once its mounted10:01
McNutellamorning.. Can I set up network between desktop and laptop usig bluetooth.. Desktop is Ubuntu, laptop is XP10:01
bigfoot1ompaul: how do i mount10:01
bigfoot1?10:01
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bigfoot1ompaul: how do i know if it's already mounted?10:01
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ompaulbigfoot1, just a second I need to make a call -10:01
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bigfoot1ompaul: when i click on the floppy icon, it sitll gives me the info from the previous icon ((hard disk)).10:01
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DBObigfoot1, to check if its mounted open a terminal and type "mount | grep floppy"10:02
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bigfoot1nbo. ok. but no printout10:02
bigfoot1i guess it's not mounted10:02
DBObigfoot1, then its not mounted10:02
bigfoot1how do i mount?10:02
DBOmount -a10:02
DBOerm10:02
ompaulbigfoot1, mount /media/floppy10:02
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Kane666hastesaver: do you know anything about proxy servers?10:02
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bigfoot1ompaul: ok10:03
bigfoot1done10:03
ompaulbigfoot1, cp Desktop/foo /media/floppy/.10:03
bigfoot1ompaul: ok10:03
ompaulbigfoot1, where foo is the file10:03
djrandommorning all10:03
djrandomive managed to mess up my install of open swan via apt-get... in that i didnt complete the configuration wizard. now my system thinks its not installed so i cant remove and start again, but i also cant reinstall over the top of it to fix it. cant anyone help me please?10:03
denis_bonjour10:03
DBOompaul, we are going to have to stop interupting each other like this, people will say its love =P10:03
ompaulDBO, it will be all yours in a moment - I have to split10:03
zcat[1] djrandom: dpkg-reconfigure foo10:03
DBO!fr10:03
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:03
DBOompaul, I was just kidding, no need to run away10:04
djrandomtom@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure openswan10:04
djrandom/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: openswan is broken or not fully installed10:04
djrandomtom@ubuntu:~$10:04
bigfoot1ompaul: how can i check that the copy command was successful?10:04
ompaulDBO, ohh but there it, 'tis breakfast time10:04
DBOdjrandom, sudo apt-get -f install10:04
djrandomDBO: whats the -f switch for?force?10:04
ompaulbigfoot1, ls -al /media/floppy10:05
DBObigfoot1, ls /media/floppy10:05
zcat[1] fix I think..10:05
DBOdjrandom, fix10:05
bigfoot1ompaul: ok10:05
ompaulDBO,  or md5sum :)10:05
bigfoot1i see it, dbo10:05
bigfoot1thanks10:05
djrandomDBO: zcat[1]  :) ill try10:05
bigfoot1now time to unmount, yes?10:05
DUMAiSOmy wine is not showing correct fonts like in this picture: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/i232, what i need to do?10:05
bigfoot1how do i unmount?10:05
zcat[1] bigfoot1: umount..10:05
DBObigfoot1, umount /media/floppy10:05
eggzeckDUMAiSO, do you have msttcorefonts?10:05
djrandomDBO: zcat[1]  still erroring10:05
DBObigfoot1, umount /media/floppy0 (sorry for typo)10:06
djrandomyou wanna look at my pastebin?10:06
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DBOyes10:06
ompaulbigfoot1, sudo umount /media/floppy :: as long as you don't have any program in the /media/floppy directory10:06
bigfoot1oh, i have to do mount and umount by sudo10:06
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DUMAiSOeggzeck, I am installing it right now10:06
Kane666i have a question regarding a proxy server, windows and ubuntu ;)10:06
eggzeckDUMAiSO, good. Because that could be one of the causes10:06
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bigfoot1ompaul: what do you mean "as long as i have no programs ..."10:06
DUMAiSOeggzeck, thanks10:06
bigfoot1you mean if I'm not working on any files in the floppy disk?10:06
DBObigfoot1, if you have any files open on the floppy disk, it will not unmount10:06
bigfoot1or somethnig like that?10:06
bigfoot1i see10:06
zcat[1] bigfoot1: another option, just sudo apt-get intall mtools.. then you can mcopy Desktop/foo A:   without having to mount and unmount..10:07
bigfoot1zcat[1] : thanks10:07
bigfoot1i'm doing that now10:07
DBOzcat[1] , yes but mounting an unmounting is a great way to start learning linux =)10:07
zcat[1] bigfoot1: the same package also has mdir, mrename, and I think even mformat A:10:07
Kane666ive installed a proxy server on my windows machine to share dial-up. Ubuntu is configured to connect through it, and it works fine,, (im using it now) but every now and then, i get a connection refused error and i either have to close the proxy server and re-open it or get a new static ip... any ideas?10:07
bigfoot1zcat[1] : DBO, i'd rather do things via GUI (nautilus)... like in windows. don't you?10:08
bigfoot1ok, maybe you don't. 8-)10:08
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eggzeckDUMAiSO, don't forget to run 'sudo fc-cache -v'. And restart the wine program.10:08
ompaulbigfoot1, like you don't have nautilus or a terminal with that directory open10:08
DBObigfoot1, not really, CLI is much faster once you know it10:08
zcat[1] DBO: true.. but we've made him do it once..10:08
DUMAiSOeggzeck, ok10:08
eggzeckDUMAiSO, after install10:08
djrandomDBO: zcat[1]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1389310:08
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WillieDaPimpwhat kernel source files do i need to install after a fresh install, so i can change my sound card drivers and stuff10:08
bigfoot1ompaul: DBO thanks10:08
bigfoot1now i gotta go and print out that document10:08
bigfoot1thanks for your help10:08
bigfoot1sayonara10:08
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ompaullp foo but thats no use10:09
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enycmeep10:09
DBOKane666, that sounds more like an issue with your proxy10:09
glicki should prolly shave again some day10:09
Kane666DBO: nah its not, thats what i thougt... so i downloaded a new proxy and gave it a try and the same thing happens10:09
DBOglick, gurus dont shave10:09
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glickheh10:10
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ompaulDBO, that is so wrong, and I own three sets of sandles10:10
ompaulDBO, which is excessive10:10
zcat[1] I made the mistake of shaving last week. I've forgotten almost half of everything I knew about linux already...10:10
DBOompaul, do your jeans have holes in the knees too?10:10
ompaulDBO, what are jeans chinos shorts and suits10:11
glicki just have no time to shave10:11
DBOompaul, and at some point in your life you have sported a ponytail?10:11
zcat[1] ompaul: #ubuntu-offtopic ?10:11
zcat[1] :-)10:11
ompaulna I never tied it up and in deference to zcat[1]  I am out of here :)10:12
DBO=P10:12
glickim looking forward to the official ubuntu book release10:13
glickin a couple of months10:13
zcat[1] book?10:13
glickyeah10:13
DBOill wait for the movie10:13
zcat[1] I was planning to download the odt10:13
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djrandomso, no idea on openswan?10:13
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DBOdjrandom, try "sudo apt-get remove openswan"10:14
djrandomdone than10:14
zcat[1] djrandom: apt-get install --reinstall --force perhaps?10:14
zcat[1] looks like the package is broken..10:14
djrandomit removes, even though its "not installed"10:14
djrandombut on reinstall it borks10:14
WarOfAttritionmaybe flushing the apt cache?10:14
djrandomits only done this cause i quit the configure script10:14
zcat[1] remove --purge and flush the apt-cache10:14
djrandomok ill go try10:14
McNutellamorning.. Can I set up network between desktop and laptop usig bluetooth.. Desktop is Ubuntu, laptop is XP10:15
DUMAiSOeggzeck, still bugged fonts in wine10:15
WarOfAttritionflush sounds funny, ok going have a nice day folks10:16
djrandomwith sudo apt-get install -reinstall its still broken10:16
djrandomsame error10:16
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djrandomhave any of you seen the error in my pastebin?10:16
zcat[1] I hate it when a package gets screwed up. There's never an easy way to sort it out.10:16
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djrandomzcat[1] : this is the first one ive come across10:16
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zcat[1] I've managed to mess up a few. Usually purging it is enough to fix the problem.10:17
djrandomplease can u run me though the command to purge?10:17
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zcat[1] apt-get remove --purge10:17
DBOdjrandom,  "sudo apt-get remove --purge <package"10:18
Kane666can somone please help me set up aMule to work through a proxy.. ? ive set the options and when i try to update the server list.. it fails10:18
djrandomsorry, i should have seen that :P10:18
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djrandomsweeeeeeeeeeet :D10:18
djrandomDBO, zcat[1] : welcome over for beers and BBQ anytime :)10:19
djrandomi shall remember that command in future :P10:19
DBOthats a dangerous offer... I like beer almost as much as I like BBQ10:19
r0xoRhmmm, interesting anti-gentoo link10:19
r0xoRi didn't find it very funny, though i'm not a fan of Gentoo10:19
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djrandomDBO: but much better together?10:20
DBOi dont mix business and pleasure10:20
zcat[1] r0xoR: it's funnier if you actually know people like that...10:20
youngcodercan someone tell me where to find an updated list of repositories?10:20
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DBO!repos10:20
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:20
DUMAiSO!wine10:21
crazy_penguin!easysource10:21
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:21
djrandomhehe10:21
djrandomi feel teh coffee machine coming on10:23
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ta3ukhi10:24
DBOhey10:24
ta3uki'm russian ))10:24
ta3ukcan u help me?10:24
zcat[1] !ask10:24
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.10:24
ta3uk!ask )10:25
ubotuta3uk: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:25
DBO!ru10:25
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help10:25
ivokslol10:25
zcat[1] !botsnack10:25
ubotuthanks zcat[1]  :)10:25
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OhzieIs there anything like Norton Ghost, but for linux?10:26
zcat[1] dd10:26
DBOits called tar10:26
ivoksdd10:26
DBOor dd =P10:26
zcat[1] partimage perhaps..10:26
ivoksOhzie: and don't search for it on google10:26
ivoksOhzie: you allready have it installed :)10:26
OhzieNo, dd is too small of a keyword to search for on google10:27
OhzieI'm looking at the man file for it10:27
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ta3ukhow to use the ICQ with proxy?10:27
OhzieOkay, lemme rephrase my question...10:27
Kane666ta3uk: are you using gaim?10:27
ta3ukyes10:27
r0xoRzcat[1] , meh, i just think that misguided or not some of them have one ok point which is that (however misguided the notion is) a custom compiled system will be faster... is 12 days worth the trade off? not for me no :P but for some crazy freaks i guess it is10:28
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Kane666in accounts, there should be something like 'more options' just add your settings10:28
zcat[1] !info partimage10:28
ubotupartimage: (backup partitions into a compressed image file), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.6.4-11ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 247 kB, Installed size: 876 kB10:28
OhzieIs there an easily automated way to compress my hard drive into an image that I can put back onto it really easilly, in the same fashion as Norton: Ghost?10:28
Ohziepartimage, eh?10:28
zcat[1] Ohzie: what ubotu said..10:28
r0xoRzcat[1] , i also don't know a lot about the arguments (on either side) presented for USE and "binary inconsistencies" and other random stuff10:29
ivoksOhzie: dd if=/dev/hda of=/tmp/my_image looks easy enough to me :)10:29
r0xoRi know what USE flags are... i too have attempted a Gentoo install before10:29
zcat[1] ivoks: yeah, if you don't mind backing up all the freespace too, and having a backup you can only restore to an identical drive..10:30
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MistaEDohzie: partimage rocks, although it doesn't support as many filesystems as norton ghost10:30
ivokszcat[1] : right :)10:30
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Ohzieivoks: But can I boot into a CD that will do everything for me automatically? :-P Cause I'm big on that.10:30
zcat[1] personally I'd reccomend tar to backup the filesystem and grub-install to make it bootable after you recover it. That way you can restore to different drives, different partitioning, or whatever10:31
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zcat[1] automated restore tools I don't know.. nothing I really know of. I kinda count on not having to restore very often.10:32
OhzieIt totally bothers me that broken drivers in xorg are debilitating. It's totally a usability thing, that if the driver doesn't work...try defaul VGA drivers. MacOS uses X11, and if the drivers don't work...it drops into default VGA drivers. Apple has been using X11 for a not-too-long-time in its current incarnation. The linux community has been using it for YEARS and nobody's ever done it.10:32
OhzieLittle usability things like that are the ONLY thing stopping linux from being UBER DESKTOP AWESOME10:32
MistaEDohzie: there is a live cd which does exactly that i'm pretty sure, although really it just uses partimage10:32
OhzieI mean, it's already UBER DESKTOP AWESOME for people that have any idea what they're doing.10:32
ivokswel...10:32
ivoksOhzie: i would say bad habbits of windows users10:33
r0xoRheheh10:33
OhzieLike, I'm not an expert, but I can get around pretty easily. I know what I'm doing. As for bad habit of windows users? Tell that to the people that don't use linux on the desktop because windows is easier. :)10:33
MistaEDohzie: well you can run norton ghost for linux partitions10:33
zcat[1] Little things like reconfiguring X automatically when the user drops a new graphics card in might be a good idea..10:33
r0xoROhzie, ar u gonna just complain about *nix marketshare?10:33
ivoksOhzie: like "ubuntu sucks; doesn't come with firewall" or "i need to backup my partition since i have to format it every month"10:33
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Ohzier0xoR: No. :( I'm just trying to make a point.10:33
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OhzieOhgod please don't flame me, I actually like this channel and the people here, and Ubuntu, a WHOLE LOT. I'm just trying to make a poiint.10:34
Ohziepoint**10:34
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ivoks:)10:34
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TechSalvagerivoks, WTF?10:34
MistaEDohzie: apple runs x11 in rootless mode, meaning it doesn't handle the video/input directly, aqua does that10:34
OhzieThe people here have been more helpful than any other distro's help channel ever. Everyone here is really really nice, and AWESOME.10:34
ivoksTechSalvager: yes?10:34
TechSalvageroh wait nm #ubuntu no wonder10:34
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r0xoROhzie, well if you feel you need to make a point, there's #ubuntu-offtopic for that10:34
TechSalvagerivoks, <ivoks> Ohzie: like "ubuntu sucks; doesn't come with firewall" or "i need to backup my partition since i have to format it every month"10:35
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TechSalvageryeah10:35
ivoksTechSalvager: bad habbits of old windows users :)10:35
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Ohzier0xoR: Duly noted.10:35
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OhzieAnd the reason I have to format is because it's not my computer. =P The owner wants to put osx86 on it. =(10:35
OhzieOhwell. Thanks anyways! :D10:35
ivoksOhzie: that would be a mistake10:36
ivoksOhzie: OSX is slowest OS for x8610:36
TechSalvagerivoks in that case forgiven10:36
ivoksand ugliest10:36
zcat[1] Put KDE on it and give it a nice OSX theme. They'll never know.10:36
r0xoRheh.. osx is pretty slow from my experience10:36
GazzaKhas anyone here gor a windows machine running at the mo?10:36
TechSalvagerme10:36
Ohzieivoks: That's why I use linux instead of osx8610:36
ketsugiNot I10:36
OhzieGazzaK: Over there I do *points* what do you need?10:37
TechSalvagerGazzaK, what do you need help with?10:37
r0xoRGazzaK, running as in turned on?10:37
glicki havent run windows in 3+ years10:37
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GazzaKI need to get a firmware update for my router, but it comes as a compressed exe file from BT10:37
GazzaKdamn BT10:37
keNzianyone have a xorg.conf for FX 5500 ?10:37
zcat[1] i have wine10:37
OhziekeNzi: FX-5650 go10:37
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GazzaKthey have the latest firmware here http://www.voyager.bt.com/2100/firmware_update.htm10:38
ivokskeNzi: install nvidia-glx10:38
keNzik10:38
TechSalvagerGazzaK, try renmaing it .zip10:38
GazzaKbut it is downloadable as a .exe file only10:38
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ivoksGazzaK: well, beagle is Beagle.exe too :)10:38
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zcat[1] sometimes those archives are just zip with a selfextractor and unzip can still handle them directly..10:39
GazzaKTechSalvager, wooo, that worked10:39
GazzaKthanks folks10:39
GazzaK:)10:39
TechSalvagerGazzaK, yeah anything windows you need help with just ask10:39
GazzaKnever knew that about renaming the exe to a zip10:39
ketsugino need to rename them10:40
ketsugijust unzip whatever.exe10:40
TechSalvageryep10:40
GazzaKI'm good at windows, i'm a IT support bloke, but just new to ubuntu :)10:40
zcat[1] you got lucky.. if it's been a self-extracting RAR that wouldn't work :)10:40
GazzaKand never knew that exe>zip trick, as i've never needed to10:40
ketsugiunrar10:41
ketsugi;p10:41
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zcat[1] ketsugi: not on the stock install though10:41
froudWhat package installs growisofs10:41
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froudOK found it10:42
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McNutellawhats the ISO burner within ubuntu, and how do I toast an ISO to CD ?10:43
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Kane666can someone please go to this site and tell me which one i need to work on ubuntu? http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Valknut-Download-2346.html10:44
zcat[1] McNutella: right-click on the file and pick 'burn to CD'10:44
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McNutellazcat[1] : cheers for that, simple is always best :)10:44
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McNutellaand there it goes10:45
SkeletonixHello .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1011340#post101134010:45
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DaskiesHow do I recieve scans?10:46
zcat[1] scans?10:46
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DaskiesYes, when I scan a document who do I save it?10:46
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Daskies*how do I10:46
zcat[1] xsane perhaps..10:46
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Daskieszcat[1] , So open xsane, then scan?10:48
Daskiesscan = hit the button on my printer10:48
DaskiesOh10:48
DaskiesThere seems to be a button on xsane its self10:49
DaskiesYes, I get a 'device busy' error10:49
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[Spooky] if a port is "filtred" its not open for anyone ?10:50
[Spooky] * everyone10:50
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valehruis there a way I can get firestarter firewall started in gnome without me being asked for the sudo password each time?10:54
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[Spooky] valehru: it starts as a daemon ?10:54
lukeanyone know what 'usplash_fifo' is?10:54
robit already starts, only need to run the gui if you want to change something10:55
valehruwell I want the gui to be in the taskbar each time i boot up10:55
valehruahh ok...10:55
valehrugotcha10:55
robI seem to remember there was a step by step guide to doing that somewhere10:55
valehrunah its cool10:55
valehrudidnt realise it started on boot as a daemon10:55
valehruthx10:56
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robvalehru, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26483.html10:56
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robprobably not all that secure though10:57
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linux_galorevalehru: your not actually starting the firewall when you start firestarter, its just a front end. also you dont actually need it to be running once you have done the setup because firestarter runs a small program during startup the defines your firewall rules, you only need the GUI if you want to change anything11:01
valehruyeah I got that11:01
valehruthx linux_galore11:01
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linux_galorevalehru: once you have setup iptables with firestarter you really dont need to run it again11:02
valehruyup11:03
Akuma_can anyone help with wireless usb device drivers? i need to know if a driver is available for mine before i can install ubuntu11:03
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linux_galorevalehru: if you watch your startup you will see the init process start a script called firestarter that initiates your firewall rules11:03
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linux_galorevalehru: so basivally ignore it11:04
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Akuma_i could only find http://prism54.org/newdrivers.html, but its ambiguous whether they're driver is ready or still in developement11:04
valehruhave done...tis ignored11:04
AlmtyBobis there a way in gnome to save the positions of my windows?  zAngband opens up 8 terms and every time I start the app it reset them to their default messy positions11:04
linux_galoreAlmtyBob: right click on the top of the window11:05
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blasphwhat's an easy way to convert avi to mpeg on Ubuntu?11:06
AlmtyBobonly min/max/on top/move/resize/cose/always visbile/move to workspace11:06
Clint-see ya all, going back to BSD11:07
Clint-8-)11:07
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hastesaverblasph, you can use mencoder, but it probably doesn't qualify as easy.11:07
linux_galoreAlmtyBob: looks like they removed the config option11:07
blasphhastesaver: how not-easy is it?11:07
crazy_penguinblashph: did you try avidemux or transcode?11:07
WillieDaPimpubuntu is getting better and better with each version, unfortunetly it is not good enough for me, i'm going to bsd or back to gentoo11:07
linux_galoreAlmtyBob: welcome to the down side of dumbing down a desktop11:07
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linux_galoreWillieDaPimp: try RR4 Linux  its Gentoo made easy http://www.lxnaydesign.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=2711:08
JonBoonwhy would my uptime say there are 2 users when i just rebooted?11:09
linux_galoreJonBoon: root processes11:09
JonBoonis that normal?11:09
linux_galoreyes11:09
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DBOJonBoon, xserver = one user, terminal = one user11:09
JonBoonok cool11:09
Clint-hee11:09
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JonBooni do use apache11:10
JonBooni thought maybe that changed something11:10
blasphcrazy_penguin: didn't try either, didn't try anything. are those tools easy to get and to use?11:10
crazy_penguinto get yes11:10
crazy_penguinto use i don't know exactly11:11
hastesaverblasph, are you comfortable with using the command line?11:11
crazy_penguini did use them very much11:11
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blasphhastesaver: I have nothing against it.11:11
crazy_penguinbut both of them have gui for easier usage11:11
hastesavercrazy_penguin, just tell him the command to do the conversion if you remember it; how easy it is will be self-evident :)11:11
hastesavercrazy_penguin, (actually, I'd like to know too, and I'm too lazy to read the docs right now...)11:12
Mwafricai got a problem with Mozilla Firefox Browser.... Can anyone help with the sudo comand to install it.....11:12
crazy_penguini don't nknow it because i used the gui.:)11:12
crazy_penguinsorry11:12
hastesaverblasph, Read the mencoder section of this page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/video-playback.html11:13
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cyneso what new great features are coming in with dapper drake?11:13
ivokscyne: countless :)11:13
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linux_galoreMwafrica: just download the binary tarball unpack it in your /home/username/Documents directory  then just creat a link from your taskbar or desktop to /home/username/Documents/firefox/firefox11:13
spikebwell, the most visable one is ORANGE11:13
MwafricaAnyone to recommend me another browser?11:13
spikebbright, blinding orange11:13
hastesaverblasph, (or the transcode section for that matter)11:13
spikebscreaming at your eyes11:13
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linux_galoreMwafrica: you dont have to install firefox to use it11:14
hastesavercrazy_penguin, GUIs would also be great, what are the respective GUIs called?11:14
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Mwafrica.......its kind og corrupted...11:14
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blasphhastesaver: which do you recommend?11:14
crazy_penguinfor transcode if i remmeber right is gtranscode11:14
crazy_penguinand avidemux has it by default in the package11:14
crazy_penguinone sec i will look11:14
spikebHobbsee: slept yet?11:15
MwafricaLinux_galore: Im new tto ubuntu.,..... i was triying to install P2P program and now.... it doesnt display text?11:15
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Hobbseespikeb: no, i'ts only 7.15pm11:15
linux_galorekde has a few apps for translating video file formats11:15
spikebHobbsee: ahh okay11:15
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blasphbleh, come to think of it I really don't have the energy for command line programs right now. is there a reasonably simple gui solution?11:15
spikebHobbsee: it's been nighttime here, now four in the morning11:15
linux_galoreMwafrica: what doesnt display text11:15
MwafricaLinux_galore: I need another browser... or installing a new Firefox11:15
Hobbseespikeb: ah yep11:15
spikebseamonkey works well, i hear.11:16
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linux_galoreMwafrica: goto the mozilla home page and download the firefox  tar.gz  file11:16
crazy_penguinblasph: what are you using ? dapper or breezy?11:16
Madkisshi all. How to start the graphical installation from the 6.06-CD without booting into the live system first?11:16
blasphcrazy_penguin: breezy.11:16
spikebMadkiss: don't believe that's possible11:16
MadkissThat's excellent11:16
crazy_penguinthen you will find them in the repositories11:16
Madkissspikeb: So of what use is this CD for me with my PowerBook from Oct 2005?11:17
hastesaverblasph, "To convert input.avi to the MPEG4 codec with MPEG3 audio encoding" -- is this what you want?11:17
crazy_penguini saw them a few days ago when i installed something11:17
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spikebMadkiss: depending on how well it's supported, it could be very useful or useless11:17
MwafricaLinux_galore: I cant go to any page... since i cant see a thing from my browser....11:17
Madkissspikeb: It just died while loading into the live system.11:17
spikebheh11:17
blasphhastesaver: I think I need MPEG 1 or 2... I need this to make a video CD in K3b11:17
MadkissThat's not funny at all.11:17
spikebMadkiss: then possibly useless11:18
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linux_galoreMwafrica: you may want to delete/rename  the /home/username/.mozilla/  directory then run firefox again11:18
MadkissFor god's sake why does Ubuntu just not provide a simple, standard installation CD?11:18
hastesaverblasph, oh, then just use the GUIs, should be easier to figure out :)11:18
chamoMadkiss: they do11:18
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Madkisschamo: With the graphical installer?11:18
spikebMadkiss: first off, they do. second off, if the livecd failed, you're going to have problems.11:18
blasphhastesaver: so what package do I need?11:19
chamoya11:19
Mwafricalinux_galore: What do u mean run again? like opening the firefox again?11:19
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hyphenatedthe installer does a great job despite not being graphical11:19
linux_galoreMwafrica: ok  raname the /home/username/./mozilla  directory   /home/username/./mozilla-old11:19
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hastesaverblasph, the ones crazy_penguin said (gtranscode, avidemux)11:19
linux_galorerename*11:19
hyphenatedit only asks what, 10 questions, which you can generally just accept the defaults for11:19
Mwafricaok11:19
linux_galoreMwafrica: then try running firefox again11:20
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blasphhastesaver: both or just whichever?11:20
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MadkissOh lord, it killed a kitten.11:20
hastesaverblasph, granscode should be enough11:20
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linux_galoreMadkiss: must be on of them evil winda's kittens11:20
blasphokay thanks hastesaver crazy_penguin11:21
MwafricaLinux_galore: from my /home/jonas/  there is no ./mozilla....11:21
linux_galoreMwafrica: its a hidden directory11:21
crazy_penguinyou're welcome blasph :)11:21
Madkisslinux_galore: the kitten here are all OSS kitten11:21
linux_galoreMwafrica: so your file manager wont show it by default11:21
Mwafricahow how do i see it?11:21
Mwafricaseen 5it11:21
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blasphoh, just remembered I wanted to ask a newbish question: how come directories with names that start with a period aren't displayed in nautilus?11:22
gillhello all11:22
spikebblasph: they're  hidden directories. by default, they aren't shown, although nautilus can be configured to show them11:22
linux_galoreMwafrica: right click "show hidden files"11:22
zcat[1] the same reason directories with +H aren't shown in windows?11:22
MwafricaLinux_galore: yes..... i have seen and renamed... but when i run Mozilla from the bar it... brongs the same problem.....11:23
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linux_galoreMwafrica: mozilla isnt firefox11:23
linux_galoreMwafrica: run firefox11:23
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Mwafricamine is Mozilla Firefox... from gthe title bar11:24
linux_galoreMwafrica: run epiphany11:24
vladuz976my monitor lists preset resolution 1280x1024 pixels @ 135 MHz what does the 135MHz stand for? is that my refresh rate?11:24
blasphspikeb: so why are directories like .xMule hidden?11:24
cynei wanted to know what features would be avaiable in dapper drake, well i found it: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta11:25
MwafricaLinux_galore: how do i do that... im completely new?11:25
spikebblasph: mostly to keep directories looking clean :)11:25
gillhow can you change the margins in open office writer program?11:25
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blasphspikeb: oic. :)11:25
linux_galoreMwafrica: open a terminal and type epiphany11:25
spikebcyne: does that page mention the blinding orange?11:25
cynespikeb, yes11:25
spikebcyne: whew11:25
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cynespikeb, it looks very very nice11:26
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Mwafricalinux_garole: Command not found...11:26
Boglizkif i'm listening to music, i need to stop the music and restart firefox to hear any sound..11:26
spikebcyne: it's bright, but yes, it does look nice.11:26
linux_galoreMwafrica: run nautilus then11:26
Boglizkwhich is really annoying11:26
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cynespikeb, the whole thing, i mean :)11:27
MwafricaLinux_garole: (nautilus:8028): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk- bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible11:27
Mwafricaroot@jonas:~ #11:27
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linux_galoreMwafrica: sounds like you did some serious sytem breaking11:28
linux_galoresystem*11:28
MistaEDvladuz976: yep, your refresh rate, which is pretty high, can it handle it?11:28
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MwafricaLinux_garole: aaaai11:28
linux_galoreMwafrica: did you isntall firefox with apt-get11:28
Mwafricalinux_galore: nooo.... it came with the Ubuntu CD11:29
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vladuz976MistaED: i am confused, i don't think it should be in the MHz range. ithought it's only in Hz not MHz. Can this be?11:29
linux_galoreMwafrica: your problem is your using Linux like Windows, if you do that your going to constantly break it, learn to use the package manager11:29
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Mwafricalinux_galore: That may be true........ cause im used to windows11:30
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linux_galoreMwafrica: with Ubuntu you dont download "anything" "every", you get the package manager to download an install your software11:31
MistaEDvladuz976: just realised the M in it, very weird11:31
linux_galoreever*11:31
MwafricaLinux_galore: Can u recommend another browser for me?11:31
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dgtlchlkare there any guides for setting up dual desktop/big desktop with ATI binary drivers?11:31
linux_galoreMwafrica: flush the install start again11:31
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vladuz976MistaED: shouldn't be right. Can you look here? http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-456811:31
MistaEDvladuz976: maybe xorg got a weird readout from the monitor, can you knock it down to 60hz?11:31
AlmtyBobvladuz976: horizontal refresh rate and vertical refresh are entirely different things11:32
AlmtyBobhorizontal refresh is in Mhz and vertical is in hz11:32
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linux_galoreanyway Im out11:32
_harmhow can i get support for WMV3 video codec?11:32
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vladuz976AlmtyBob: so why does an LCD need ranges, i thought that's for CRTs only11:32
Jimmey__Morning all11:32
calythMwafrica: is there any reason why firefox would not work as a browser?11:33
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AlmtyBoball screens have refresh rates11:33
_harmAlmtyBob is right11:33
AlmtyBobbut you can directly compare an LCD refresh to a crt refresh11:33
AlmtyBoba 60hz refresh on an lcd is perfectly fine11:33
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AlmtyBobwhre as on a CRT it'd give you a headache11:33
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=== _harm has 60Mhz @ CRT
Mwafricalinux_garole: it just stopped after i installed this p2p program11:34
vladuz976AlmtyBob: so can i instead of putting a range like 30-60 just put one number?11:34
AlmtyBobwhy on earth would you run @ CRT at 60hz?11:34
_harmmwafrica which p2p?11:34
AlmtyBobvladuz976: are you using a crt?11:34
spikebyou can get the max res that way11:34
_harmalmtybob i dont know.. why now? its sharp!11:34
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AlmtyBobif you have an insanely crappy monitor maybe11:34
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Mwafricaharm: gunitella or something11:34
AlmtyBobmost modern monitors support at least 70hz @ their max res11:35
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FujitsuAlmtyBob, no they don't!11:35
GazzaKFujitsu, name one which doesn't11:35
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zcat[1] Hell, I'd rather run it at 1024x768 if that's the only way to get a decent refresh rate... 60Hz is painful!11:35
jack1hi11:36
jack1hi hastesaver11:36
vladuz976AlmtyBob: no i am using LCD this one http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-456811:36
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Kreamhi all11:36
hastesaverjack1, hi!11:36
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AlmtyBobthen don't worry about your refresh rate11:36
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AlmtyBobthere's no reason to up the refresh rate on a CRT11:36
dekelaHi all11:36
Kreamis there some sort of post-installation checklist that i can follow to get things like commonly used codecs and players working?11:37
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AlmtyBobbut no, it shouldn't list 135mhz, it's probably listing the horizontal instead of the vertical res11:37
zcat[1] AlmtyBob: you mean LCD ?11:37
nilviohow i get my wow work11:37
jack1the script dtill doesnt work for me hastesaver maybe cuz my mountpoint is /media/ipod but in the script they use /mnt/ipod11:37
AlmtyBoberr yah11:37
nilvioit ask now 2 cd byt when i but okay11:37
dekelaIf my ssh connection was broken during apt-upgrade how can I check if it finished successfuly?11:37
AlmtyBobno reason to up an LCD refresh11:37
xanavimwhere can I get the tool mkjailenv?  I'm having a terrible time setting up jail11:37
nilviothat message coming again11:37
zcat[1] 135MHz sounds like the dotclock..11:37
nilvio!wow11:37
ubotu[wow]  To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource11:37
hastesaverjack1, oh, change it in the preferences -- you can specify the mountpoint in GTkpod prefernces11:37
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dekelaAnyone?11:39
Samuar?11:40
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Jimmey__dekela, run it again?11:40
hastesaverjack1, In gtkpod, Edit->Preferences, the General tab, the first entry is for "iPod Mount Point" -- put /media/ipod there.11:40
_harmdekela just try again?11:40
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xwingcan someone point me to some good wallpapers for ubuntu gnome 1280 x 1024?11:40
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Jimmey__www.gnomelook.org11:41
dekela_harm:My ssh connection died in the middle of apt-upgrdae11:41
jack1  mom hastesaver  i had /media/ipod does it work that way for u? the script i read usese /mnt/ipod by default11:41
dekela_harm: how do I know if it finished successfuly?11:41
ronickshow can i view the services in kde?11:41
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dekelaOh I see11:41
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cynexwing: http://images.google.com.au/images?as_q=wallpapers&svnum=10&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&imgsz=xxlarge&as_filetype=&imgc=&as_sitesearch=&safe=off11:41
_harmdekela just try again i think, and it will continue or report an error11:41
dekelaSo if it failed it will continue where it was left of11:41
xwingcyne: thanks11:41
dekelaGood thank you people11:42
jack1hastesaver i am currently changing /fstab to /mnt/ipod11:42
hastesaverjack1, oh.. my /usr/share/gtkpod/scripts/sync-kaddressbook.sh uses IPOD_MOUNT=/media/ipod11:42
robwhat the heck unzips .7z?11:43
dekelaBTW: I spotted a good howto for dapper: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/install.html11:43
jack1hastesaver then thats not the reason the it was already right; it says it syncs but in fact it doesnt11:44
claymore666hey all, i can't seem up install kubuntu-desktop using apt-get, i get an error11:44
Kreamis there some sort of post-installation checklist that i can follow to get things like commonly used codecs and players working?11:44
claymore666even using sudo11:44
hastesaverjack1, you have to first unmount it and eject it before you see the effect, right?11:44
Jimmey__What's the error you're getting, claymore666?11:44
jack1hastesaver '/usr/local/share/gtkpod/scripts/sync-kaddressbook.sh' returned the following output:11:44
jack1Syncing iPod ... [Contacts]  done!11:44
claymore666where can i paste it?11:44
claymore666it's about 3 lines long11:44
milladiou_dediouquelle webcam ?11:45
Jimmey__Three lines is alright in here, I think11:45
claymore666claymore666@lappy:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:45
jack1well yes but it doesnt11:45
claymore666E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:45
claymore666E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?11:45
madmikerob: 7zip one of the best compressors11:45
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robmadmike, yeah so I see11:45
Jimmey__claymore666, are you running another instance of apt-get? Or synaptic?11:45
claymore666i was, i closed it11:45
jack1hey it works hastesaver /mnt/ipod11:45
claymore666im currently updating everything on my system though11:46
hastesaverjack1, great, whatever works! :)11:46
claymore666cause i couldnt get kubuntu to work11:46
Jimmey__When that's finished, then you should be able to download kubuntu-desktop11:46
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claymore666i'll cancel it for now11:46
milladiou_dedioucherche webcam compatible sur linux11:46
claymore666since you're helping :)11:46
madmikerob: there seems to be no official ubuntu package, but there certainly are linux binaries11:46
jack1hastesaver the mountpoint cool!11:46
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ronickscan someone teach me how to view the services.11:46
robmadmike, there is, p7zip11:46
claymore666so what do i do now... no apt get or any add applications are open11:46
robI think anyway :)11:46
vladuz976where in xorg.conf can i set how many dots per inch my monitor displays?11:46
madmikerob: that's just waht I wanted to say11:46
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Jimmey__claymore666, try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, again11:47
claymore666ok11:47
claymore666woo, working now11:48
claymore666odd :/11:48
claymore666thankyou11:48
madmikerob: I've heard ubuntu is even considering using it for their deb-packages... but 7z seem to eat a lot of cpu... to much for older computers11:48
Jimmey__claymore666, you can't use two instances of apt-get at the same time - that includes synaptic11:48
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claymore666ahh, ok11:48
claymore666so maybe when that updates thing is showing11:48
claymore666i can't use it11:48
robmadmike, yeah it seems to from what I just saw (a 650mb) zip file11:48
robits still extracting11:49
Jimmey__If you where installing updates, that's just the same11:49
jack1guys  how can i configure xchat that it automatically starts with certain channels? and wouldnt neen manually to do /join11:49
roband my pc is chugging along (and its not that old)11:49
jack1need11:49
claymore666400mb install11:49
claymore666geeze!11:49
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claymore666well at least i already have openoffice installed11:49
Jimmey__jack1, you can add a channel to your buddy list, with Gaim11:49
spikebthe better you compress something, the longer and more resources its going to take to uncompress it11:50
claymore666is it easy to swap between window managers?, can i still use xwmconfig or whatever?11:50
Jimmey__Yes.11:50
madmikerob: seems we haven't reached crompression paradise yet ;)11:50
claymore666ohhh :D11:50
Jimmey__claymore666, you can choose the type of session you want from the login menu.11:50
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claymore666crazy11:50
claymore666thanks11:50
sevenHi, for some reason I can't get "dchroot" with apt -get, is the package still available?11:51
Jimmey__seven, try searching for it in the synaptic package manager11:51
Jimmey__or apt-get search11:51
spikebapt-cache search11:51
crazy_penguinjack1: click on the edit button in the server list option inte xchat menu11:52
sevenhrm, I tried sudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap11:52
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jack1Jimmey__thx but usually i have kopete and see right now that xchat is more handy11:52
sevenno luck though11:52
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Jimmey__jack1, okay11:52
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ocean1in the xubuntu channel is there nobody11:52
chaos_of_apocalyhow do i install visual route?11:52
crazy_penguinjack1: there you can edit modify what you need11:52
liableseven: apt-cache search is your friend11:52
dennis_hi , im looking for an ftp programm11:52
ocean1I have a thing to say11:52
ocean1the xubuntu have a problem with installation11:53
Jimmey__dennis_, a client, or a server?11:53
ocean1the partition manager dont find a scsi disk11:53
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dennis_a client11:53
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ferronica my computer start booting when i switch on the main power11:54
ocean1the ubuntu work perfectly11:54
ocean1but xubuntu no11:54
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ocean1is there a problem with scsi disk in partition manager11:54
dennis_Do you know a ftp client11:54
ocean1ok?11:54
Jimmey__ocean1, can you install ubuntu, then install xubuntu-desktop11:54
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jack1crazy_penguin right, thx i had that discovered but couldnt find again that s it!11:55
crazy_penguinok11:55
crazy_penguinwelcome11:55
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ocean1ok however I day for all peaple and for the developer11:55
sevenOk, I used apt-cache to search for dchroot, IT FOUND IT, but all the sources say the package is missing11:55
ocean1for the future ....11:55
seveni think its a really popular package, I dont get it11:56
dennis_#_deubuntu11:56
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andy__hi guys11:57
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molkkowhat is the simplest way to copy big files from breezy/ext3 to winxp/ntfs? if i use samba it fails after 2GB copied because of some smbfs problem11:58
andy__if i have the kubuntu dvd iso on my Windows partition, can i boot to a distro cd and isnstall from there rather than burning a dvd?11:58
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Jimmey__seven, I just installed it without problems11:58
andy__molkko, its not advisable to copy to ntfs11:58
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dennis_I NEED A FTP Prgramm (client)11:59
sevenhrm11:59
andy__molkko, boot to yer winxp boot and get explore2fs11:59
Jimmey__seven, do you have the universe repositories enabled?11:59
blazehey, friends, how to play http://media.bmgonline.com/rcarecords.com/jem/video/wish_i_56.asx in linux :) ?11:59
blazewhat do i have to install11:59
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sevenI don't know. I'm knew to ubuntu =)11:59
sevenI have everything default11:59
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sevenI just installed amd64 ubuntu11:59
hastesaverblaze, mplayer plays it, but there might be something easier than installing mplayer... I don't know12:00
spikebi'm sorry12:00
madmikemolkko, I can copy 2 Gbyte ove smb (from linux to linux) without a hitch12:00
blazeok, so mplayer =) 10x12:00
andy__seven, i just got the dvd iso myself :)12:00
madmikemolkko, what version of windows are you running?12:00
McNutellahey is there a disk defragger with ubuntu atall ?12:00
ferronicause UBUNTU and Kill Bill12:00
ferronica:O12:00
Jimmey__McNutella, I think there is a Linux Defrag, but it's really not necessary.12:00
hastesaverblaze, but first, read !restricted12:00
molkkoandy__: its a windows machine. I am not writing to any ntfs partition from linux. i just want to move files from one harddrive to another12:00
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hastesaverblaze, maybe all you need is some w32codecs...12:01
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valehrudoes azureus work on x86_64 arch?12:01
McNutellawhys it not necessary ?12:01
dibblegowhat's the man page for having services/processes start at boot?12:01
Jimmey__McNutella, because the ext3 filesystem was designed to minimise fragmentation.12:01
McNutellathough if im curious Jimmey__ is there a tool with ubuntu ?12:01
BlissexJimmey__: that is not quite right unfortunately...12:01
Jimmey__McNutella, I think I've seen one.12:01
andy__molkko, " what is the simplest way to copy big files from breezy/ext3 to winxp/ntfs?"12:02
McNutellaJimmey__: "seen" but not remember? :)12:02
Jimmey__I'm looking for it :P12:02
molkkomadmike: my windows is some XP shipped along with a laptop bought 2 years ago12:02
andy__molkko, thats copying to an ntfs drive from windows, no?12:02
hastesaverMcNutella, for questions like this, you can find answers using "apt-cache search defrag"12:02
Jimmey__http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/defrag.html12:02
hastesaverMcNutella, and the package is called defrag, BTW :)12:02
Jimmey__Blissex, is it not?12:02
McNutellaweehooooo :)12:03
madmikemolkko windows can read from ext212:03
ferronicawhat is the purpose of win32 codecs???12:03
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BlissexJimmey__: in theory it should be OK, but in practice it is terrible.12:03
hastesaverMcNutella, but oh sorry, it doesn't mention ext3 :(12:03
andy__molkko, if you are booted in windows then get explore2fs and you can copy from ext2/3 to ntfs12:03
McNutellaahh well, as I said, im just curious to see how tidy the drive is12:03
spikebferronica: to play video using those codecs12:03
Jimmey__Blissex, ..Feel free to expand on that :P12:03
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andy__molkko, do not try to copy the files from linux cos the ntfs partition may corrupt12:03
BlissexJimmey__: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-3rd.html#05091312:03
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Jimmey__Blissex, thankyou12:04
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molkkoandy__: i mean I have ubuntu and there ext3 drive. then i have another machine with winXP and that machine has ntfs drive. ethernet between the machines. i want to copy a file from said ext3 to said ntfs12:04
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andy__molkko, you never said that. ok you need to use samba to share the drive12:04
Blissexas to  fragmentation and defragementation: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno06-2nd.html#060422b12:04
g0dchildHi, if i download a dapper drake CD is there a lot of risk involved in prolly losing all the apps I presently have installed on the box?12:05
madmikemolkko, or setup a ftp server on one side12:05
andy__molkko, then windows will see the drie over the network12:05
madmikemolkko, or a shh server12:05
BlissexJimmey__: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno06-2nd.html#06041612:05
g0dchildack! Blissex! thats a pretty thorough blog. :)12:05
GazzaKg0dchild, is this the live cd or the install cd?12:05
andy__molkko, ftpd is a good option too :)12:05
McNutelladefrag - ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter.. i searched it, how would I get it ?12:05
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molkkoandy__: i use samba but after 2GB copied it crashes everytime and when I google it seems to be a wellknown feature. my question is how to do it12:06
g0dchildGazzaK, I havent decided yet..i am planning to use install cd.12:06
g0dchild!dapper12:06
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)12:06
madmikemolkko, I agree with andy__ on ftpd it's the easiest samba can be a bitch12:06
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andy__molkko, get an ftp server started and you can access your stuff, therefore bypassing samba12:06
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molkkook. i try ftpd and ssh/scp12:06
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andy__madmike, is it possibl to install ubuntu from an iso on a windows partition?12:07
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McNutellais it apt-get ?12:07
GazzaKg0dchild, as far as I know, a normal install will overwrite the machines hard drive12:07
jack1hastesaver korganizer works but it doesnt add all contacts in kaddressbook dont know why12:08
g0dchildis it possible to do it through apt then?12:08
lppcta!tell andy about alternative-install12:08
evi|oneHello. I'm a newbie. I've just installed ubuntu 5.10 and notice I have Firefox 1.0.7 installed. How do I upgrade to Firefox 1.5.0.3? "apt-get install firefox" says I already have the latest version...12:08
Jimmey__GazzaK, it wont, unless you explicitly tell it to12:08
AlmtyBobafter 2gb copied it crashes? I copied over 1 tb to my samba server with no issues12:08
lppcta!tell andy__ about alternative-install12:08
hastesaverjack1, oh I don't know... I don't my iPod Nano much, actually :)12:08
jack1i added %i for the mountpoint did u too?12:08
GazzaKokay, Jimmey__ I always do a clean install, that might be why12:08
Jimmey__Yeah12:08
McNutellahmm I guess itsn ot apt-get defrag12:08
andy__i have many other distro cd/dvds so booting isnt an issue12:08
andy__and i can mount the disk12:09
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madmikeandy__, you mean booted from windows from a iso-fileimage?12:09
crazy_penguinMcNutella: is in the repo12:09
Jimmey__McNutella, there's no tools in the repositories for defragmenting ext3 filesystems12:09
ferronicaIs there any program for ubuntu bamdwidth monitor12:09
molkkoAlmtybob: 1tb stuff no problem but if a single file is bigger than 2gb then it fails at least in my case12:09
crazy_penguinMcNutella: apt-get install defrag12:09
ferronicalike we use in windows12:09
andy__madmike, i mean boot to say a mandriva / fedora dvd and mount the iso on my windows partition12:09
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andy__madmike, then install the OS from there12:10
McNutellaso no point in getting it there12:10
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Jimmey__crazy_penguin, that will only defragment ext212:10
crazy_penguini know12:10
andy__madmike, rather than have to burn a proper dvd12:10
madmikeandy__, hmm12:10
dennis_HELP ME , I Need A ftp Client12:10
lppctaandy__: check message from bot12:10
evi|oneAny help for me please?12:10
apokryphosdennis_: gftp is good for GTK12:10
McNutellaach well.. back to the vodka12:10
madmikeandy, you can allways try to mount it and use the live installer12:10
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madmikeandy__, But I don't know if the live installer will say after the first reboot12:11
andy__madmike, hmmm will look into it12:11
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Yvonne!fr12:11
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:11
madmikeandy__, also i'don't knwo what you mean by "mount the iso on my windows partition'?12:11
andy__madmike, it shold be possible, plus im outta media and cant be assed going to buy more12:11
dennis_i cant find it under add Porgramms12:12
andy__madmike, i have just downloaded the kubuntu iso12:12
questioneri installed Windows XP right after i installed Ubuntu (5.04) which caused an ovrewrite of the MBR, now how can i get it so that i can choose what OS to boot again since now I can only boot into windows12:12
popeymadmike: winimage can open iso files to drag files out12:12
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andy__madmike, it is sat on my windows partition of 30Gb12:12
blazehow to install quicktime for linux? :D12:12
madmikeandy__, okay then... it doesn't really matter where you save it as along as you can access it from linux12:13
vladuz976what's a typical DPI for a 19" LCD?12:13
gighenhi all12:13
andy__madmike, I have 60Gb ready to recieve kubuntu but i have no media to burn the install dvd12:13
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popeyblaze: there is no quicktime for linux, but you can install the codecs i believe, so you can play .mov files12:13
madmikeandy__, now you just want to start (i.e. boot) the dvd or do you really want to install it?12:13
andy__madmike, i want to install it without having to burn the disk12:14
gighenis there anyone that have experience with vnc?12:14
Jimmey__andy_, maybe an FTP install12:14
popeyandy__: might be possible with a boot floppy12:14
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popeygighen: ask your question12:14
lppctablaze: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg12:14
madmikeandy__, what version of kubuntu is it?12:14
andy__madmike, i want to be able to mount the iso and then kick off the install from there, essentially a hard drive to hard drive install12:14
lppctablaze: ffmpeg should play quicktime files natively12:14
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popeyandy__: don't think that is supported12:14
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gighenI have a public internet point, and sometime I want to control what user do12:15
andy__madmike, kubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd6412:15
blazei'll try12:15
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andy__madmike, can you see what im saying tho? im trying to avoid actually burning the thing12:15
popeygighen: ubuntu comes with a vnc server built in so you can remotely control it12:16
gighenI've used vnc but it seem not to do what I want12:16
madmikeandy__, yes i do12:16
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popeygighen: what exactly do you want to do?12:16
andy__one way i could do it is to create a partition and whack the iso in there12:16
popeyandy__: I just don't think it's possible12:16
gighenthanks popey, do you refer at vino?12:16
andy__then tell the windows installer to boot from tat partition12:16
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popeygighen: yes12:16
madmikeandy__, the problem is all of the installer want to be booted from the start to begin with12:16
madmikeandy__, the only exception is the dapper-drake live installer which can be started from the live-cd12:17
gighenDo you know any link for the documentation of vino?12:17
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popeygighen: no, what do you want to do?12:17
madmikeandy__, I'd suggest to download the cd-installer and burn it to a cd12:17
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madmikeandy__, like this you don't need to waste a dvd-r ;)12:17
popeymadmike: the gui installer is recommended over the install cd now12:17
Jimmey__popey, even still, I prefer the text mode12:17
gighenVino must run and the user dont have to see vino execution12:18
popeyJimmey__: sure, just saying it's "recommended"12:18
lppctathe gui installer has issues partitioning the disk though12:18
madmikepopey, most will welcome this12:18
gighenand who is the client of vino?12:18
gighenvncviewer?12:18
popeygighen: yes12:18
popeygighen: any vnc client12:18
gighenthanks :-)12:18
madmikeandy__, do you have any other (older) ubuntu or kubuntu cd's allready burned somewhere?12:18
Hsoguys/gals, I have a Motorola V3 cellphone, and I want to use it with ubuntu(use = transfer photos from the phone to the pc). I don't think there is official software for linux from Motorola.. is there any 3rd party software that can do it?12:19
gighenI didn't found any documentation and I go on vncserver12:19
Jimmey__Hso, do you have a cable?12:19
madmikelppcta, ther was some fatal-errors with beta1 but those are fixed now12:19
popeyHso: does your computer have bluetooth? and does the phone?12:19
gighennow I go to vino12:19
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HsoI have the usb cable, but no bluetooth12:19
gighenthank you12:19
lppctamadmike: k12:20
HsoI think the phone may support bluetooth, but I do not have the device..12:20
popeyHso: there's a new gnome-phone-manager12:20
andy__madmike, i dont this will be my first taste :)12:20
Hsohmmm12:20
Hsowhere can I grab it?12:20
gighenvino is installed well12:20
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popeyHso: I don't think it's in breezy12:20
andy__madmike, i dont sorry. this is my first ta12:20
gighenhow can I run vino server?12:20
Hsowell, google has results so i'll check that out.. thanks12:20
popeygighen: you don't *have* to use vino, there's vncserver which is separate12:21
andy__madmike, no, this will be my first taste. ive used mandrake / mandriva for ages and anied a look at what else there was12:21
madmikeandy__, well i just thought... maybe ou could install it from a cd-version from 5.10 the upgrade to kubuntu and upgrade the rest from internet sources12:21
popeyhso no problem12:21
gighenI've installed also vncserver12:21
andy__madmike, yeah good suggestion!12:21
gighenbut anytime that I connect to server I don't see the desktop12:21
andy__but i dont unfortunately12:21
gighenbut another desktop12:21
gighenwith one console12:22
Hsohttp://usefulinc.com/software/phonemgr/images/prefs <-- hmm... I don't see USB on this image..12:22
popeygighen: ahh, you want x11vnc12:22
popeygighen: which operates like vino12:22
McNutellawhere and how would I access a help document after installing something12:22
RandolphCarterMcNutella: /usr/share/doc/*package name*12:22
madmikeandy__, I can allways install kde over ubuntu and voil you've got kubuntu ... it's kubuntu is really just ubuntu with the additional kde packages12:22
McNutellaRandolphCarter: thank you12:23
gighenI want to see what the user do (excuse me for my bad english)12:23
RandolphCarterMcNutella: you'll probably need a combination of 'zcat' and 'less'12:23
popeygighen: yes, vino or x11vnc12:23
madmikeandy__, and xubuntu ist really just ubuntu with xfce packages12:23
andy__madmike, thats cos KDE is the nuts :D12:23
gighenthank you12:23
gighennow I test x11vnc12:23
RandolphCarterMcNutella: I think it may get put into Yelp too (still not entirely certain about that, anyone know for certain?)12:23
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McNutellayelp eh :) cute12:24
HsoI have another ubuntu question ;P I want to add an application/command to the 'Panel', I right clicked on the panel, selected 'Add to Panel', clicked 'Run Application' and 'Add'. I click on the new cog-icon, and it has a text box... what I want, is to somehow make it as and run the 'xkill' command when I click on the icon, without having to go through the pulldown menu all the time.. is that possible?12:24
madmikeandy__, I've got some friend that use mandrivia, some become happy with kubuntu some not... just don't kill you mandrivia-parition just yet  ;)12:24
andy__already have12:24
RandolphCarterhehe, looks like they do, and it's nicer than reading it in the console :) System->Help12:24
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andy__nothing to lose12:24
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Hsouh.. make it save and run **12:25
andy__madmike, lan storage for all my docs and i can easily receate my apps12:25
g0dchildcan someone please advise...how do I use apt to upgrade to dapper?12:25
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ferronicai hav just installed nlan from synaptic manager now where it is???12:25
Hsoi don't know, g0dchild, i'm still a newbie to ubuntu ;(12:25
andy__madmike, buffalo 100Gb wireless network storage12:25
popeyg0dchild: see #ubuntu+112:25
andy__:D12:25
gighenperfect!12:25
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Jimmey__g0dchild, maybe sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:25
madmike:)12:25
ferronicasorry nload12:26
ompaul!tell g0dchild about upgrade12:26
ompaulg0dchild, see the message from the bot12:26
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gighenx11vnc is that I want!12:26
popey:)12:26
gighenthanks popey12:26
andy__madmike, http://www.ecost.com/ecost/ecmac/shop/detail~dpno~474671.asp but 100Gb12:26
g0dchildompaul, will do. thx12:26
popeyno problsm12:26
ompaulg0dchild, for all other dapper things #ubuntu+1 is the channel12:26
madmikeandy__, harddrive on lan rocks, I use a linksys with a usb-hardrive12:26
ferronicai hav just installed nload from synaptic manager now where it is in system?????????????12:26
andy__madmike, it IS the future12:26
ferronicai hav just installed nload from synaptic manager now where it is in system?????????????12:27
andy__madmike, operating sysem and apps on system, documents elsewhere12:27
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andy__madmike, system dies....who cares, get it reinstalled12:27
ompaulferronica, you should know better than to repeat ...12:27
gighenhow start x11vnc at boot? and if user change ... I've to run newly x11vnc for new user?12:27
ferronicalol12:27
ompaulnot funny12:27
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andy__ompaul, maybe its an echo :D12:27
kempo_hello all12:27
OhzieI have universe servers, but not multiverse. :( Is there a way I can ad them?12:28
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popeygighen: you could get it to auto start for each user by putting it in .xsession i think in each users home directory12:28
ompaul!tell Ohzie about multiverse12:28
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ompaulOhzie, read the message from the bot12:28
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madmikeandy__, seems to have a godd price.. what about the 'woman exceptance factor'?12:28
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gighenok ...12:28
andy__madmike, how do you mean?12:28
gighenthank you popey12:29
madmikeandy__, noisy?12:29
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gighennow I search documentation for x11vnc12:29
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popeygighen: be careful though, it wont have a password12:29
ompaulferronica, you run that in  a TerminX12:29
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ompaulferronica, you run that in  a terminal that is12:29
madmikeandy__, i mean is it noisy to have it around the living room or is it okay?12:29
ferronicaompaul: really i dont know12:29
andy__madmike, sits in a cupboard on a towel so its fine12:29
gighenI noted this12:30
ferronicaompaul: what command12:30
ompaulferronica, the one you installed with synaptic12:30
madmikeandy__, my women doen't like when I install hardware with cables too many cabels and too much nise, that's why I ask ;P12:30
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ferronicaompaul: what command should i use???12:30
gighenbut vino is equivalent at x11vnc?12:30
andy__maddler, stick it in yer loft and forget about it :D12:30
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ferronicaompaul: ok i just typed nload12:31
ferronicaompaul: it worked12:31
fexorhiho everybody, whould be anyone be as kind as answer me a few questions about LUA?12:31
ferronicaompaul: but why it is not avaialable in internet12:32
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ferronicaompaul: but it showing in kilobits not in knilo bytes12:32
ompaulferronica, it is a command line program and it is called nload .... you really need to read the desktop guide, which is installed on your machine please read the section on cli and do some research on the internet - if you do not make an effort you will not understand things - its a network utility - and not everything is on the menu such as cd and ls12:32
dennis_i dont know how to use an ftp client , i cant installed /find it12:32
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dlidennis_, firefox can do basic ftp downloading12:33
ferronicaompaul: ok12:33
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ferronicaompaul: :(12:33
ompaulferronica, do this ->>man nload <<-12:33
dibblego!services12:33
ubotuservices is, like, to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/12:33
dennis_yes , but i must upload something12:33
dlidennis_, okay, lftp is a great console client, "sudo apt-get install lftp"12:33
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ferronicaompaul: it worked12:34
dennis_only type this into the consule?12:34
dlidennis_, or, you would like to try, gftp12:34
dlidennis_, yes, if you don't have synaptic opened12:34
ferronicaompaul: is there any good graphical banwidth monitor12:34
ompaulferronica, no idea12:34
dliferronica, icewm has a nice nic traffic monitor, gnome has a system monitor12:34
fexoris anyone familiar to LUA here?12:34
dibblegohow do I run a service at boot time?12:34
Jimmey__ferronica, you can add the system monitor to your panel, and then make it display the network instead of or aswell as the CPU12:34
ferronicaompaul: but it showing in bits not in bytes??? :(12:34
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Jimmey__fexor, that's that programming language used to with ET12:35
ferronicadli: icewm?????12:35
Jimmey__Just like Python. Kinda.12:35
ferronicadli: what is that12:35
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ompaulferronica, I told you read the man page and find out what switches / arguements to run with it, the first time I came across it was when you mentioned it and by reading the man page I get to this point >nload -u h eth1 <12:36
dliferronica, if you don't know what it is, never mind, (icewm is a nice wm)12:36
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dennis_that dont install anything12:36
fexordoes anyone know how to create an GUI in LUA?12:36
ferronicanice wm ????12:36
aktiv[b] when organizing folders in win, i used # to override alphabetical order, to make i.e. #B* folder above A* folder, how can i do this in ubuntu ?12:37
dlidennis_, type "lftp" in a terminal12:37
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ferronicadli: nice wm what???12:37
Jimmey__fexor, try in #lua12:37
fexorkk, thx12:37
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dliferronica, didn't I say "never mind"?12:37
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OhzieIs gaim 2.x anywhere in any of the synaptic repos? I seem to remember it being somewhere, but I can't find it. This makes me think I'm missing a repository with beta stuff or something.12:37
dennis_there stands : ltftp :~>12:37
ferronicadli: lol12:38
garethanyone here have a HP5740?12:38
dliOhzie, gaim-2.0 is not released yet12:38
ferronicadli: i want good bandwidth monitor, with nice graphical12:38
dennis_what shall i do?12:38
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dliferronica, gnome has a nice system monitor, didn't I say that?12:38
ferronicadli: yes12:39
madmikeferronica, what kind of bandwithd monitors have you tried ?12:39
dlidennis_, do you know how to use an ftp client?12:39
dennis_yes , but i cant see a ftp client12:39
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dlidennis_, "sudo apt-get install gftp", gftp is gui12:39
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dlidennis_, sorry for mentioning lftp, I should have said gftp12:39
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Ohziedli: That's why I feel like I'm missing a repo with beta stuff. Because I swear to god in heaven that I got Gaim 2.x off of a synaptic repo somewhere.12:40
ferronicadli: just downloded nload and bmon12:40
ferronicadli: these two only12:40
martyG'day all.. is there a complete newbie channel I can go to for some HDD install help?12:40
Ohziedli: Thanks, though.12:40
madmikeferronica, I guess you are running ubuntu, right?12:40
dennis_puh , it works , thanks12:40
Jimmey__marty, right here :):)12:41
dliferronica, if you don't know how to use a gnome tool :( what can I say? it's GUI12:41
martyOK.. I've just plugged in a new 250G HDD.. it's the first IDE (others are sata).  what do I do :)12:41
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blazehow to install realplayer? because it tells me that it couldn't find realplay12:41
ferronicamadmike: i am using ubuntu offcourse because KILL BILL :)12:42
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crazy_penguinmarty: run a partitioner12:42
blazewhen i type sudo apt-get install realplay12:42
martycrazy_penguin, such as?  As I said.. complete newbie12:42
ferronicadli: what dose gnome means????12:42
bbrazilmarty: boot up12:42
ferronicadli: i am really confusse12:42
crazy_penguinmarty: what system do you use?12:42
crazy_penguinmarty: os i mean12:42
martycrazy_penguin, ubuntu 5.1012:43
lppctablaze: you want the codec or the actual player?12:43
crazy_penguinmarty: then run the install cd12:43
dliferronica, are you using ubuntu at all?12:43
blazeboth12:43
ferronicadli: really i liked ubuntu, here i saw a big difference in internet speed12:43
madmikeferronica, you can install a bandwitdh-monitor by right-click on top-panel12:43
ferronicadli: yes UBUNTU12:43
g0dchildhi, I am running the upgrade now- but just one more question- will the packages i've downloaded for breezy work on the new upgrade? Or do i need to download each and every one of 'em?12:43
crazy_penguinmarty: will help you to partition and install ubuntu12:43
lppctablaze: well i think the codec is in the w32codecs pack - sudo apt-get install w32codecs12:44
ferronicamadmike: i hav deleted the top pannel12:44
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martycrazy_penguin: OK, I'll have a squiz at it and see how I go12:44
crazy_penguinok12:44
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ferronicamadmike: customized as my use12:44
crazy_penguinmarty: ok12:44
madmikeferronica, thats unlucky12:44
madmikeokay then12:44
blazePackage w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:44
blazeThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:44
blazeis only available from another source12:44
blazeE: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate12:44
blazeand what does this mean?12:44
madmikeferronica, well it works with the bottom panel too12:44
ompaul!tell blaze about w32codecs12:44
lppctablaze: your sources.list needs updating12:45
madmikeferronica, just right-click on the bottom-panel where there is some empty space12:45
g0dchildompaul, some help please?12:45
blazehow to update it =) ?12:45
ompaulblaze, read the message fro the bot, and please do not paste in this channel, that is what paste.ubuntu-nl.org is for12:45
lppctablaze: and possibly modifying to accept backports/multiverse12:45
blazeok, ompaul, sry12:45
dliferronica, okay, I will blame ubuntu then, for not letting you know what gnome is, but gnome is de from gnome.org, installed by ubuntu by default, ask ubotu about gnome12:45
madmikeferronica, then you select "+ add to the panel" (or some such, I have ubuntu installed in german)12:45
ompaulg0dchild, you need to join #ubuntu+1 for help with dapper12:45
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ompaulg0dchild, that is what we made that channel for12:46
g0dchildright- i am there now-  :)12:46
madmikeferronica, are you still with me?12:47
cruxomg! its my first time in ubuntu :| i did internet in one day :|12:47
ompaulg0dchild, that is your home until June 1 :-)12:47
ferronicamadmike: yes12:47
ferronicamadmike: what to add12:47
ferronicamadmike: add pannel what???12:47
madmikeyou should see a big dialog with some icons12:47
ferronicaubotu gnome12:47
madmikeferronica, no panic ;)12:47
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madmikeferronica, scroll all to way down to the systemmonitor icon12:48
paradox_boun1Hi anyone have experience with X over ssh I am trying to run remote X programs from a machine with X via a server with out X on my laptop at home?12:48
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ferronicamadmike: r u talking abot to add system monitor12:48
madmikeyes12:48
ferronicamadmike: i dont like that12:48
madmike:)12:48
blazewhy isn't drag & drop working in xmms?12:48
madmikeferronica, I use it every day12:48
blazeand is there any way to make it work :) ?12:48
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madmikeferronica, what is wrong with it12:49
ferronicamadmike: nlad is better, i can show me total download and upload12:49
ferronicamadmike: my total traffic usage12:49
madmikeferronica, well I guess I might try nlad then12:49
ompaulmaddler, that should be nload12:49
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ferronicamadmike: i suggest u try it once :/12:49
ompaulmadmike, that should be nload12:50
madmikeompaul, I shoudl switch12:50
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blazecan somebody help me with it?12:50
madmikeompaul, I should switch my nick... maddler gets in the way all the time ;)12:50
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ferronicamadmike: please please do it now and help me to get familiar to its figures :)12:50
ompaulmadmike, :-)12:50
madmikeferronica, so you don't need any suggestion for a bandwitdh monitor anymore?12:50
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ferronicamadmike: i need when u download nload12:51
vladuz976does ubuntu have any app that is installed by default to view pdf?12:51
ferronicamadmike: after that12:51
madmikeferronica, I try to stick with suggestions to stuff I allready know ;)12:51
bbrazilparadox_boun1: so the server doesn't have an X server, but the laptop does?12:51
ferronicamadmike: please please12:51
ferronicamadmike: install for sometime and help me abot its figures12:52
paradox_boun1OK don't worry about that I found out it is because the apps are trying to open on the server I need to set up port forwarding on the server.12:52
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paradox_boun1evince for pdf12:52
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paradox_boun1yes.12:53
ferronicamadmike: curr: 567 kBit/s what it mean12:53
madmikeferronica, well one can allways try12:53
vladuz976paradox_boun1: thanks12:53
bbrazilparadox_boun1: not manually. ssh -X will do it for you12:53
ferronicamadmike: kBit/s????12:53
ompaulferronica, if you had a standard menu I would say Applications System Networking tools but as you think that removing the standard trolls is the way forward then you will will just (A) frustrate yourself because your being referred to stuff that is not there in your version of the world and (B) being unfair by demanding that the world bend to your installation - perhaps you should think a little on this12:53
madmikekBit is 1024 bits12:53
paradox_boun1the server is my co-lo it connects to the firewall at work which does some iptables port forwarding to my desktop12:53
madmikekByte is 1024 bytes12:53
WildZeckbites or bytes12:54
bbrazilparadox_boun1: using ssh, everything runs over the ssh connection12:54
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WildZeck?12:54
bbrazilparadox_boun1: you can relay it via multiple ssh -X12:54
madmikebytes12:54
ferronicamadmike: it mean it showing me in kilobits not in BYTES12:54
ferronicamadmike: right12:54
madmike1 byte = 8 bytes12:54
madmike1 byte = 8 bits12:54
madmikesorry12:55
bbrazilmadmike: it depends12:55
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ferronicamadmike: that i know LOL12:55
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paradox_boun1bbrazil: You can?12:55
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bbrazilparadox_boun1: yip. as long as the right programs are installed along the way to handle xauth12:55
madmikeferronica, well what do you need to know then?12:56
madmikebbrazil, why do you think so?12:56
bbrazilmadmike: 9bit bytes12:56
madmikebbrazil, never heard of that12:56
bbrazilmadmike: the idea mostly dies12:56
bbrazilmadmike: *died12:57
paradox_boun1What I would really like is to be able to do the stuff i was doing with RHAS where I sshed into the box and the hust ran system-config-xxxx and it popped up locally since there are going to be several progs running steadily.12:57
ompaulerror correction there bbrazil12:57
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madmikebbrazil, some kind of error correction or something?12:57
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bbrazilmadmike: no, actually 9 bits in a byte. There's a reason the RFCs use 'octet'12:57
bbrazilmadmike: remember there are 18bit systems out there12:57
bbrazilompaul: an extra bit would only give error detection, you'd need hamming code for error correction12:58
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madmikebbrazil, hmm never heard of 18 bit systems, what are those?12:58
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madmikeferronica, what kind of help do you need woth nload?12:59
faroushow can i change my power save options. Is it a daemon that i can just stop12:59
ferronicamadmike: ok i got all abot nload12:59
bbrazilmadmike: some of the PDP series01:00
_harmwhat is something that quitely runs in the background?01:00
_harmwhat is that called01:00
_harm?01:00
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ompaul_harm, daemon?01:00
ferronicamadmike: hey can u send me ur desktop screenshot please :)01:00
_harmno01:00
_harmwindows word for it :P01:00
_harmi need it for an annual report01:00
bbrazil_harm: service01:00
_harmiam not going to say the production department was a deamon01:00
_harmpassive01:00
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bbrazil_harm: you can spell it daemon01:01
bbrazil_harm: on windows it's either a driver or a service01:01
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madmikeferronica, nothing special about my desktop... I don't have nload running (just the man-page of it)01:01
ferronicamadmike: if u dont hav any problem???01:01
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ferronicamadmike: whatever just send me01:01
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madmikeferronica, well you still seem to have one then?01:01
ferronicamadmike: If u can....01:01
_harmbbrazil i meant passive :D01:01
aLPHa_LeaK_harm, job maybe?01:01
aCiD2Hey, anyone know how to get CPU specs (SSE support, etc)?01:01
_harmalpha_leak i meant passive01:01
aLPHa_LeaKoh.01:02
bbrazilaCiD2: cat /proc/cpuinfo01:02
Ayabarashould I install the ati drivers for my laptop if I don't plan on gaming?01:02
faroushow can i change my power save options. Is it a daemon that i can just stop. my screen goes blank every 2 min when i run on battery and it is irritating01:02
aCiD2thanks bbrazil01:02
madmikeferronica, I guess I'm man enought to take and send screenshot... I just don't know what you are about to do ;)01:02
shoofleSo in synaptic, if I press mark all upgrades, it marks a bunch of unauthorized upgrades and also marks several packages (which I quite like) for removal.  What is going wrong?01:02
madmikebbrazil, interesting01:02
ferronicamadmike: just wanna to see01:02
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ferronicamadmike: nothing special01:02
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_harmbbrazil and alpha_leak >> The personnel department is another vital department which runs passively, always noting down  things said and done. This department should not be underestimated as it takes care of a lot of small things.01:03
madmikeferronica, okay01:03
ferronicamadmike: ok, how could i find my sound card is used by ubuntu not MOBO onboard01:03
bbrazil_harm: monitoring, statistics gathering?01:03
_harmi got it now :D (K) thx dude read the text thats what i was trying to type01:03
_harmjust couldnt find the word until i called my gf01:04
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madmikeferronica, the screenshot is ready to send01:04
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madmikeferronica, I'm not sure01:04
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ferronicamadmike: ok send send01:04
Jimmey__How can I take a screenshot whilst in non-graphical mode01:04
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Cavemancopy paste?01:05
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madmikeferronica, hmm01:05
madmikeferronica, hmm doesn't seem to work01:06
_harmferronica lol.. just highlite and paste it in a new document (select all > copy , then nano tekst.txt > paste save)01:06
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bbrazilJimmey__: screen has that feature (called hardcopy)01:06
madmikeferronica, you don't seem to get my screenshot01:06
ferronicawhy01:06
ferronicamadmike: why???01:06
shoofleso now it doesn't seem to care about the unauthorized packages, but it still wants to remove the two.  why could this be?01:07
ferronicamadmike: will i send u mine for trial01:07
madmikeferronica, that is the question01:07
ferronicamadmike: wait01:07
madmikeferronica, okay01:07
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ferronicamadmike: accept it01:07
ferronicamadmike: check PM01:08
ferronicamadmike: there u will get as i think...............01:08
shoofleRRRRR01:08
madmikeferronica, the problem seems to be on my side01:08
ferronicamadmike: i just right clicked ur name and selected send file01:08
madmikeferronica, I don't have me router setup for file-transfer via irc01:09
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madmikeferronica, I will have to reconfigure my router first :/01:09
ferronicamadmike: Do fast :(01:09
ompaul!patience01:09
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.01:09
ferronicamadmike: lets exchange our innovatives ideas,01:10
claymore666hey all, i see that there is quake II for linux on this webpage, http://www.icculus.org/quake2/#download but what style/ type do i download for ubuntu ? :(01:10
Kamping_Kaiserclaymore666, deb01:10
madmikeferronica, I'm sorry I'll need to go eating something haven't eaten anythin all day ;)01:10
shoofleDoes anyone know why synaptic would be wanting to remove two packages (one of which I do NOT want to get rid of) when I click "Mark all upgrade"?  Unfortunately I have to leave soon.01:10
ferronicamadmike: when will u back???01:10
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ferronicamadmike: time? i am too feeling hungry01:10
ferronicamadmike: i will be back in 30 miniutes and you???01:11
madmikeferronica, I'm only sporadically on this channel. I can't promise anything... I've got my wedding to plan01:11
madmike;)01:11
claymore666Kamping_Kaiser, : what do you mean deb? :/01:11
claymore666heh01:11
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ferronicamadmike: LOL :)01:11
ferronicamadmike: anyway BY BY01:11
valehrugah....Why oh god why am I getting "Segmentation Fault" when I try and run azureus01:11
DeadmeatHey. I must ask you guys, why does apt-get replies with this?01:11
DeadmeatThe following packages have been kept back:01:11
Deadmeat  linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-38601:11
madmikeferronica, good luck ;)01:12
ompaulDeadmeat, what version?01:12
Deadmeatompaul: Of the OS?01:12
ompaulDeadmeat, yes01:12
Deadmeatompaul: 5.10 Breezy01:12
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Deadmeatompaul: I've got that reply for many weeks now, and I'm starting to wonder why it doesn't upgrades my kernel01:12
ompaulDeadmeat, did you customise your kernel?01:13
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claymore666hmm01:14
claymore666hey all, i see that there is quake II for linux on this webpage, http://www.icculus.org/quake2/#download but what style/ type do i download for ubuntu ? :(01:14
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Deadmeatompaul: I haven't done any configuration except running apt-get on my server base-system installation01:14
ompaulDeadmeat, try >> sudo apt-get -f install <<01:14
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[Leo] hi01:14
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iceberghi01:22
icebergwho's ice?01:22
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Deadmeatompaul: Im really sorry. My Internet connection died.01:22
Deadmeatompaul: What was the last message you saw from me?01:23
ompaulDeadmeat, we saw you disappear01:23
DeadmeatAll my computers got down01:23
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ompaulnothing after your question which I answered did you see the answer?01:23
DeadmeatNope, I don't think so01:23
ompaulDeadmeat, try >> sudo apt-get -f install <<01:23
Deadmeatompaul: On my way!01:24
paradox_boun1jim@emma:~$ echo $DISPLAY01:24
paradox_boun10.001:24
paradox_boun1Still having problems with remote X I have configured everything in between to allow X forwarding but I am still getting error messages like this:01:25
paradox_boun1jim@d127-ubuntu:~$ gaim01:25
paradox_boun1(gaim:15371): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_name: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed01:25
paradox_boun1** (gaim:15371): WARNING **: cannot open display: unset01:25
paradox_boun1jim@d127-ubuntu:~$01:25
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ompaul!paste01:25
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL01:25
claymore666hey all, i see that there is quake II for linux on this webpage, http://www.icculus.org/quake2/#download but what style/ type do i download for ubuntu ? :(01:26
_jasonparadox_boun1: it should be :0.0   , at least, that's what it is here01:26
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fexorIs here anyone familiar with LUA?01:27
DeadmeatOmg. I don't know what's happening over here atm. All of a sudden my connection gets instable.01:27
Deadmeatompaul:   0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.01:27
paradox_boun1locally it is but I am getting no response from when I run echo $DISPLAY01:27
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ompaulDeadmeat, what does uname -r tell you01:28
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paradox_boun1The machines at either end are ubuntu the two machines I am relaying through are debian sarge.01:28
Deadmeatompaul: 2.6.12-9-38601:28
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paradox_boun1Apparently ssh should automagically export the display variables01:29
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roicowhy was filight 7, which is "alpha", released after beta2?01:30
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ompaulDeadmeat, do this sudo apt-get install linux-image linux-headers - if your using nvidia or ati I you will need to reconfigure the desktop but other than that it should not be any grief it will want a reboot01:30
Deadmeatompaul: I don't have a desktop :)01:30
ompaulmy current kernel 2.6.12-10-38601:31
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DeadmeatOh, do you have time for a short spam-message in PM?01:31
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ompaulwork away but don't use the s word thanks :-)01:31
Deadmeatompaul, sure thing :)01:31
charbelhey01:31
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charbelthis is my first time online with ubuntu!!!01:31
aLPHa_LeaKcharbel, cool!01:32
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aLPHa_LeaKcharbel, dapper or breezy?01:32
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ompaulcharbel, you took your time we have been waiting for you and lots more for the last two years, ;-) welcome to #ubuntu how can we help you01:32
charbelbreezy01:32
MrRiocharbel, Welcome to ubuntu :)01:32
charbelit took me ages and couldn't figure out what was wrong with the adsl modem01:33
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claymore666hey all, i see that there is quake II for linux on this webpage, http://www.icculus.org/quake2/#download but what style/ type do i download for ubuntu ? :(01:33
charbelnow I got a router ...01:33
ilba7r!easysource01:33
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:33
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charbelnever used gaim before... I seem to have connected fine to icq01:33
ompaulcharbel, they do make life a lot easier01:33
ilba7ri am having an error trying to open the source-omatic page. can anyone confirm that it is an error from the site not my pc01:33
charbelI configured msn.. but it didn't start01:33
charbelwhat should I do so start msn (same for yahoo)01:33
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ompaulcharbel, did you install "dapper" or "breezy"01:34
charbel5.10 , is that breezy?01:34
ompaulyeap01:34
foffenhey everyone, thanks for ubuntu! it's great!01:34
Jimmey__charbel, right click on the icon in the top right, click accounts, and where it says "online", tick the box01:34
charbeloh thanks!01:34
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charbelthat worked, thans Jimmey!01:35
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Jimmey__charbel, you're welcome :)01:35
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ompaulcharbel, if you tab after you type the first few letters you may find that auto completion works well01:35
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aphonexnainai de01:36
ompaulaphonex, ?01:36
aphonex01:36
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ompaul #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk01:36
Deadmeatompaul: You got a PM if you didn't notice :) so if you've the time, I'd be glad if you just could take a fast look at it :)01:36
ompaul? jp nippon01:36
foffenanyone can give me pinter on how to install irssi? when i try sudo apt-get install irssi i get E: Package irssi has no installation candidate01:37
aphonex01:37
_jasonfoffen: irssi-text is the package name but it should already be installed, just try typing irssi01:37
ompaulDeadmeat, you have not sent one, I think you will have to register on the network01:37
ompaul!register01:37
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration01:37
geforcexaphonex01:37
Deadmeatfoffen: apt-get install irssi-text01:37
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foffenit was, thanks! it xirssi the gui addon?01:37
Deadmeatompaul: Oh, darn... I'll check that out as well01:37
aphonex01:38
Deadmeatfoffen: Dunno :)01:38
foffen=) thaks anyway01:38
aphonexLumaQQ01:38
geforcex01:38
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ompaulgeforcex, what language is that, looks chinese but .. I could be wrong01:38
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aLPHa_LeaKjapanese?01:38
aLPHa_LeaKeh?01:38
aphonex01:38
geforcexLumaQQ01:38
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geforcexchinese01:38
aLPHa_LeaKk01:38
aphonex01:39
geforcex??01:39
ompaulokay then this is an english language channel does this not help01:39
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foffeni've been an MS admin for 10 years almost but this is my first real linux instalation, i feel like i guess my mom doesn when i tru to explain windows stuff to her haha01:39
ompaul #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk01:39
aphonex01:39
Senilixaphonex: du. jeg synes at du skal skrive p engelsk.01:39
aphonexLumaQQ01:40
geforcexQQ:64630193601:40
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aphonex 5.1001:40
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Senilixaphonex, geforcex: det er s irriterende nr folk skriver p andre sprk p en engelsksprklig kanal, skjnner du.01:40
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DeadmeatDamn. Now I have to figure out what my password is, haha01:41
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freeflyingompaul: hi01:41
geforcex i will chat with him alonely01:41
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nilvio!wow01:41
ubotuwell, wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource01:41
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ompaulfreeflying, thanks01:42
Falluccerhello01:42
freeflyingompaul: np01:42
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thomas_I'm getting the following error when trying to compile the latest alsa drivers; http://pastebin.com/71509901:44
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Fallucceri'm running windows 2000 right now and herd that microsoft is going to cut support for the older operating systems like 2000. I found Linspire through a friend and really liked it, but I didn't like the fact that it wasn't free. Then I was reading through some linspire stuff and you were one of there competitors so I figured i'd take a look at ubuntu.01:44
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octanhowdy all.. im trying to compile cryptosetup.. but during the configure it exeit with this error:01:45
octanchecking for poptGetArgs in -lpopt... no01:45
octanconfigure: error: You need popt to compile.01:45
octanwtf is popt01:45
_jasonoctan: popt (3)             - Parse command line options01:45
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martyG'day all.. I'm trying to add an IDE drive to a setup with 2 SATA's.. I can't get the system to recognise the IDE.. any ideas?01:45
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metataghi isa01:46
octan_jason, ahh so i need libpopt-dev01:46
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metataghi spacey01:47
_jasonoctan: yeah, probably01:47
ompaulFalluccer, get a live CD play around with it and move to an install a few days later go to www.ubuntu.com and click on the download link01:47
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ubuntuhi01:47
FalluccerI have a few questions because I'm new to linux, and ubuntu. Is the desktop near the same as Windows01:47
ubuntuhello01:48
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WaernerFalluccer: It's easy to use. If you can handle the Windows-desktop, you can handle the Gnome- and KDE desktop :)01:48
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_jasonFalluccer: you should give the livecd a try, so you can give it a test run before you install it on your hard drive01:48
Falluccerok, also, no spyware and viruses...01:49
metataghi ubuntu01:49
_jason!linuxvirus01:49
ubotuThe short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2101:49
iNikusoun01:49
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metataghi digen01:50
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Ayabaraanyone with lineak experience here?01:51
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milladiou_dediouola01:52
metatagAyabara : wats lineak ?01:52
milladiou_dediougood day01:52
ZezinDoes anybody know is the next Ubuntu will have a better NTFS support?01:52
Trackilizerhi01:52
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Trackilizerany body gay??01:52
milladiou_dediougood vinos01:53
Trackilizer:>01:53
_jasonZezin: define better?01:53
Trackilizerno01:53
_jason!offtopic01:53
Falluccerwhen I install ubuntu, can I run it right from dos01:53
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!01:53
metatagZanin : of course01:53
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milladiou_dediouin vinos veritas01:53
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Ayabarametatak: linux easy access keyboard I think it means. I'm trying to get the media keys on my laptop to control Headphone volume instead of Internal speaker volume01:53
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Ayabaralineakd01:53
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metatagFallucer : yes01:53
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ZezinJason, well at Kn0oppix there are no Bugs when some directories have `  ^ ~  etc...01:53
_jasonFalluccer: no, ubuntu is its own operating system.  It doesn't run through dos01:53
Zezinat Ubuntu01:54
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Zezinthe is a wrong ecoding01:54
milladiou_dedioutchin tchin01:54
Falluccerno I mean, can I install it from dos01:54
_jasonZezin: try mounting with nls=utf8 as an option01:54
metatagFallucer : yes01:54
Zezinand this causes me lots of problems :)01:54
FalluccerI'm gonna reformat my drive01:54
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Abountuto install skype using synaptic (or apt-get) what should I do?01:54
FalluccerI've already backed up what I need to01:54
_jasonFalluccer: you just pop in the install cd and reboot, it will boot from the cd and you install from there01:54
ZezinOIC... simple like that?01:55
metatagFalluccer : its really easy.. just pop in the cd and reboot01:55
ompaulFalluccer, no you can't you need an install cd it is going to own the hard drive if you want it to, how bigh is the hard drive01:55
Falluccer10gb01:55
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Falluccernot big01:55
metatagFalluccer :  fine01:55
FalluccerI'm a casual user01:55
ompaulFalluccer, got an install CD?01:55
Falluccerdownloading the iso, and then burning it01:55
ZezinHey Jason, thank you very much! I'll try this!01:55
_jasonZezin: np, hope it works01:56
metatagZezin : no problem01:56
metataghi _jason01:56
Abountuhello...  to install skype using synaptic (or apt-get) what should I do?01:56
_jasonmetatag: hi01:56
Falluccerwhat are the system requirements for ubuntu01:56
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metatag!requirements_ubuntu01:56
ubotumetatag: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:56
metatag!ubuntu_requirements01:57
ubotumetatag: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:57
metatagstrange01:57
Falluccer!ubuntu_requirements01:57
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metatag!howto_make_the_bot_work01:58
ubotumetatag: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:58
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ompaulFalluccer, what size is the box in terms of proc and ram and video card01:58
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thomas_I need help installing alsa drivers01:58
metatagthomas_ : hi01:58
ompaulFalluccer, you should read this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto01:58
metatagthomas_ : do you know how to make mayonnaise?01:59
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ompaulmetatag, your really offtopic01:59
ompaul!offtopic01:59
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!01:59
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metatagompaul : how we measure if something is offtopic ?02:00
ompaulby it not being a ubuntu support query02:00
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metatagwhat is the scope of an ubuntu support query?02:01
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metatagompaul : what is the scope of an ubuntu support query?02:01
Falluccerompaul, i'm running a 455mhz pentium II, 256mb of ram, and an 8mb graphics02:02
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metatagFallucer : it will work like a charm02:02
Bill_Gatesthe ral slim shady02:03
Bill_Gatesreal*02:03
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metatagthis is offtopic02:03
ompaulFalluccer, if you find that slow install xubuntu-desktop after the base install - depends on what you want to do02:03
Bill_Gatesthe query bary fery02:03
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Bill_Gatessorry02:03
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metatagBill_Gates : don't be off topic else ompaul will ban u...02:04
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metataghey!02:04
metatagthat was rude mate02:04
Bill_Gatesyes?02:04
octanhas anyone expericance wirh cryptsetup?02:05
metatagompaul : that was rude02:05
iNikubah, what's wrong with these people?02:05
Abountuwhy isn't mp3 files playing?! can anyone help plz?02:05
metatagduno02:05
thomas_can someone please help me with thie error? I get it when compiles alsa-utils http://pastebin.com/71512002:05
metatagiNiku : they keep banning people02:05
ompaul!tell Abountu about restricted formats02:05
iNikumetatag: I didn't mean those people.02:06
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metatagiNiku : who?02:06
kujaWhat's the best way to get access to Windows files via a Linux box? Windows is installed through VMWare Player so perhaps mounting isn't the best idea. Would I use Samba?02:06
mustard__can you change the resolution in a virtual terminal without rebooting?02:06
octanthomas_ the error is obviouse02:06
iNikuthomas_: sounds like you're missing a file. but why are you compiling alsa-utils in the first place?02:06
shutdownHello everybody!! I am Shutdown, an italian boy... I am 16!02:06
octanthomas_, No such file or directory02:07
shutdown_jason: Hello My Friend!!02:07
shutdown:-D02:07
mustard__come to think of it, what would be the kernel option to get a high resolution in terminal?02:07
iNikuthomas_: why not just sudo apt-get install alsa-utils?02:07
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shyboylu02:07
thomas_iMiki, my audigy 4 isn't working, it only works with the newest alsa02:07
iNikuthomas_: oh, I see02:07
shyboyfrench?02:07
metatagthomas_ : iNiku is right02:07
iNiku!fr02:08
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:08
metatagthomas_ : better do wat he says02:08
octanwho has used cryptsetup?02:08
shyboythank02:08
tuxit!nl02:08
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.02:08
thomas_its compile perfectly before, just doesn't work now, what could I be missing for the compile? iNiku02:08
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octan<thomas_> did you run make clean | distclean before you started the configure ?02:08
thomas_no02:08
octantry that02:08
iNikuthomas_: is it a cvs snapshot or a release?02:08
thomas_release02:09
slvmchnis it possible to assign the mp3 filetype to xmms instead of xine? when i play music in xine it freezes the window, and i have to reboot to get control of my soundcard back02:09
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slvmchnand my girlfriend just double clicked this song and now i can't close it02:09
_jasonubotu: tell slvmchn about defaultapp02:09
octan<slvmchn> yes.. its easy in kde02:09
octanops.. you prob use gnome ;:P02:09
thomas_thomas@clamp:~/Desktop/alsa-utils-1.0.11$ make clean | distclean02:10
thomas_bash: distclean: command not found02:10
thomas_make: *** [clean-recursive]  Broken pipe02:10
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octanLOL02:10
octan<thomas_> make clean or make distclean02:10
bbrazilthomas_: make distclean02:10
ompaulslvmchn, so what youwant to do is to right click on an mp3 icon and set the default from there02:10
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slvmchnexcellent, thank you02:11
slvmchnthat was painless02:11
octan<thomas_> distclean isnt always included.02:11
slvmchnthanks guys02:11
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ompaulslvmchn, so you can set the default with open with other application02:11
octananyway.. who has used cryptsetup?02:11
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thomas_octan, didn't work02:12
octandistclean?02:12
thomas_wel,l it cleaned, but I then did ./configure, and then make, but same error02:12
octanok02:12
octantry redownloadng the source02:13
thomas_already did02:13
octancos your missing a file02:13
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octantry the cvs02:13
thomas_I tried it with a different source aswell02:13
thomas_tried cvs too02:15
Falluccerare network connections on ubuntu easy to set up02:15
thomas_I saw one other person with the error on ubuntuforums, but he didn't resolve it02:15
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iNikuI have a feeling the file should be created during the build02:15
thomas_thats what I think02:16
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iNikuno idea what a .gmo file might be, though02:16
metatagompaul02:16
Abountuhi I'm  trying "sudo apt-get ... "  it's giving me an error:02:18
AbountuE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)02:18
Falluccerhey, I was just wondering, which web browser works best with Ubuntu02:18
AbountuE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?02:18
AbountuFalluccer: I guess the answer is Firefox02:19
_jasonAbountu: is synaptic open?02:19
Falluccerwasn't opera proven to be better then firefox02:19
Fallucceror is firefox more optimized for linux02:19
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iNikuthe Opera 9 beta is really nice.02:20
FalluccerI don't like the widgets in it though02:20
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[TnJ] Baffohi all02:20
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Falluccerso I went back to 8.502:20
metataghi02:20
metatagwats up?02:20
iNikuwhat's wrong with them?02:20
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[TnJ] Baffocan i ask a couple of questions about ubuntu?02:20
_jason[TnJ] Baffo: no need to ask for permission, just ask away02:20
[TnJ] Baffook02:21
[TnJ] Baffobetween the languages there is also italian?02:21
metatagiNiki : wiht ompaul ?02:21
Falluccerwhat drive partition does Ubuntu use02:21
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iNikumetatag: huh?02:21
metatagiNiki : whats wrong with whom?02:22
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iNikuI was asking Falluccer what's wrong with the opera 9 widgets.02:22
[TnJ] Baffoso? anyone got an answer?02:22
jakelhi, i was wondering where i can get ubuntulooks gtk+2 engine02:22
[TnJ] Baffoplease02:22
metatagoh sorry02:22
_jason[TnJ] Baffo: yes, you can even join #ubuntu-it and speak in Italian with ubuntu users02:22
[TnJ] Baffooh thanks a lot02:23
Falluccernothing, I just don't like the widgets, plus I didn't really need the widgets02:23
Netcathi guys .. I want to have career in linux on server side... Right now i'm just a newbie in linux.. Can anyone suggest me some helpful links with the help of which i'll be able to shape my career and stay on the right track02:23
[TnJ] Baffodo you have tryied ubuntu under MS virtual pc 2004?02:23
metatagompaul : wats trolling ?02:23
[TnJ] Baffo*tried02:23
iNikuFalluccer: you know you can turn them off, right? :)02:23
iNikuFalluccer: 9 beta just seems to work a lot better than 8.5 in all respects for me02:23
Falluccerdidn't get that far into it before putting 8.5 back on02:23
iNikulooks nicer too02:23
metatagNetcat : break things and repair02:24
iNikuand I love the content blocking feature.02:24
metatagNetcat : needs practice02:24
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iNikuthe beta has been perfectly stable for me, too02:24
Falluccerwell I'll probally use 9 once I install ubuntu02:24
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iNikuheh, thanks.02:25
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Falluccerare the widgets any good02:25
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nmetalburukhey guys02:25
Invader_zimHello there :)02:25
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iNikuFalluccer: dunno. like you, I haven't felt any need for them so I just turned them off02:25
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Fallucceri tried using one or two, and they slowed down speed and start up time02:26
Invader_zimI would like to get some sort of Torrent program to work on my Ubuntu server which i can use throught the console any suggestion?02:26
iNikuFalluccer: in my experience rendering and compatibility has been much improved over 8.5 and those are probably the main points for me.02:26
Falluccerazureus02:26
iNikuand I love the usability of opera in general02:26
[TnJ] Baffoi have to go02:26
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Fallucceror the regular bittorrent client02:26
[TnJ] Baffobye02:26
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[TnJ] Baffoand thanks02:26
Invader_zimcan i install that with apt-get?02:26
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deviewhy isn't NVU available from apt-get anymore?02:27
iNikuazureus won't work on the console, obviously02:27
FalluccerI don't know if you can, www.bittorrent.com02:27
thomas_anyone able to help? Is there a list of the depencies needed to compile alsa?02:27
Invader_zimthanks :)02:27
Invader_zimIm installing bittorrent now02:27
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Fallucceryou should find a linux version there02:27
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nmetalburukI'm having problems installing my Nvidia drivers - I've tried sditing xorg.conf manually, running countless scripts, and everything leads me to the smae error message02:27
Invader_zimI hope i can use bittorrent throught the console02:27
Invader_zimMy server is sitting in my roof not in the mood to clime up there now02:28
MisterNhi02:28
nmetalburuk(EE) Fatal server error No screens found02:28
Falluccerhow do you keep your server from overheating02:28
nmetalburukis that to me?02:29
iNikuInvader_zim: the official bittorrent client used to have both a command line client and an ncurses (ascii graphics) one02:29
BlissexFalluccer: is that a question?02:29
iNikuInvader_zim: not sure if they are there anymore but I would think so02:29
aLPHa_LeaKInvader_zim, bittorrent should already be installed. iirc the command is btdownload_headless for the console...02:29
FalluccerInvader zim_ how do you keep your server from overheating02:29
Invader_zimI just installed bittorent through apt-get but it doesnt look like It has man pages02:29
Invader_zimHAHA i dont02:30
Invader_zimI hope it doesnt catches on fire one day02:30
iNikubtdownloadcurses or btdownloadheadless, I think02:30
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Invader_zimthank you iNiku :)02:30
iNikuInvader_zim: you have to give the .torrent file on the command line02:30
Falluccerdon't use the main bittorrent engine02:30
nmetalburukso could you guys give us a hand?02:30
iNikuand there are tons of options02:30
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Falluccerhey thanks for the help and chatting everyone, I'll be on in an hour or two when my download is finished02:31
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iNikuInvader_zim: however, you know you can run a GUI BT client on your server and just use your linux workstation as a display (assuming you have one)?02:31
nmetalburukno?02:32
iNikuInvader_zim: if you're not familiar with the X windowing system, that's the cool thing about it02:32
Invader_zimyeah I do :)02:32
deviethis is kind of dumb, why isn't NVU available through apt-get?02:32
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_jason!info nvu02:32
ubotunvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB02:32
_jasonubotu: tell devie about universe02:32
Invader_zimbut i can figure out the console02:32
Invader_zimI hope02:32
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iNikuIvaldi: yeah, but the thing is, the official bt client is crap02:33
iNikuer, Invader_zim02:33
Invader_zimvery crap?02:33
iNikuInvader_zim: you'll get much better download rates and general usability with something else02:33
deviekind of weird, last time I installed breezy I didn't have to change my sources.list to get nvu02:33
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thomas_anyone? I really need to get this working02:33
iNikulike ktorrent, or azureus which is java02:33
Invader_zimI see I need to look around02:33
thomas_is there deb files for the latest alsa?02:33
Invader_zimshit I know and that is not console most probably02:33
iNikuInvader_zim: you can still run it remotely over X02:34
Invader_zimeven though I dont have Gnome installed?02:34
iNikuInvader_zim: it has nothing to do with gnome02:34
Chri[s] or vpn02:34
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iNikuX has worked remotely since way before Gnome even existed :)02:34
Invader_zimOK I see02:35
iNikuInvader_zim: from a unix workstation running X, "ssh -X server my_x_application"02:35
iNikuand magically, the application should pop up on the screen of your workstation02:35
Chri[s] heh magic02:35
deviegetting apt-get now, thnx02:35
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Invader_zimgreat :)02:36
devieerrr02:36
devienvu02:36
Invader_zimthank you02:36
Invader_zimlemme get into my ubuntu quick02:36
Invader_zimand try02:36
devieI switched to SuSE for all of about an hour02:36
iNikuInvader_zim: you can try it with xclock or whatever02:36
deviethen came running back to Ubuntu02:36
iNikussh -X server xclock02:36
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Invader_zimTalk to you now now iNiku, thanks for the help02:38
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Invader_zimcheers guys02:38
siccnessHey guys!02:38
deviecan I run KDE apps from Gnome, as long as I have KDE installed?02:38
Chri[s] yes02:38
Chri[s] it just requires that you have QT LIbs02:38
Abountuthis one should be easy, I hope somebody can help me, I can see the different disks mapped, as sda1 / sda2 / sdb1.... but if I dbl click it says The folder contents could not be displayed, you do not have the permissions necessary to view the contes of  sdb1 ...02:39
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gnomefreakdevie: yes02:39
Abountucan you help?02:39
devieI thought so, did an apt-get of konversation, and it prompted me to install the libs, so I assumed it would work02:39
gnomefreakdevie: yes02:39
siccnessAbountu: chmod02:39
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vladuz976is there a command line dictionary?02:39
gnomefreakdamn lag bad here02:39
deviebrb02:39
siccnessgnomefreak: I copped the lag as well.02:39
aLPHa_LeaKAbountu, what filesystem type are they using?02:39
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Abountuchmod  777 /media/sda1 ...?02:40
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dliany suggestion for desired but missing tools on livecd?02:40
siccnessYeah, you'll have to use sudo02:40
siccnesssudo chmod...02:40
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blaze_how to install a C/C++ compilator ?02:40
tofarleysweet02:41
Frogzooblaze_: 'sudo apt-get build-essential'02:41
Abountuok thnaks siccness.. I'll try that,02:41
Frogzooblaze_: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'02:41
siccness:)02:41
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siccnessAbountu: Just out of curiosity, what FS is it?02:41
blaze_Frogzoo, i'll try :)02:42
Abountusiccness: it's still not opening!02:42
Abountudrwxr-xr-x   5 root root 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 sda102:42
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blaze_build-essential is already the newest version.02:43
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blaze_Frogzoo,02:43
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siccnessAbountu: Chmod the location, not the device.02:43
Frogzooblaze_: so you should now have gcc & g++ & you're good to go...02:44
siccnessmy bad02:44
chaos_of_apocalycan anyone tell me what program can i install to see tv on the pc?02:44
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Thug-N-Mehow will i use 10 Gb of 120 gb hdd for windows and the rest ubuntu ? so i can make a dual boot and start which ever i want ?02:45
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cellfishhow would i enable access to a ntfs HD on ubuntu?02:45
Thug-N-Mewhat would be the best way ? install ubuntu first and leave 10 Gb free space so i can install windows later on ... or install windows first ?02:45
blaze_Frogzoo, and.. an editor?02:46
blaze_i mean.. something like DevC++ ?02:46
Chri[s] Thug-N-Me: Make 10 gigs of it in 3 partitions /, /boot and swap02:46
cellfishlike the system sees the hard disk but when i choose 'enable' in the administration in disks, it doesn't do anything02:46
Frogzooblaze_: for writing code, emacs or vi are both good02:46
Chri[s] Thug-N-Me: Install windows first02:46
Thug-N-MeChri[s]   well the 10 Gb of 120 i would like to be windows ... abnd the rest 110 GB ubuntu02:46
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siccnessThug-N-Me: installing linux first will mean you'll have to edit bootlosfrt config, i believe02:47
Thug-N-MeChri[s]  so install windows first and make what ?02:47
siccness*bootloader02:47
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roryy!ed02:47
ubotued is the standard editor! ed, man! man ed!02:47
Thug-N-Mesiccness  yeah ...02:47
siccnessSo really, your call. Be easier to install windows first, than linux.02:47
Chri[s] Thug-N-Me: no no you can set partitions in windows and linux, so when you install windows tell it 10 gigs02:47
siccnessJust my opinion though.02:47
Thug-N-MeChri[s]  install windows and make a 10 Gb partition for it right ? and rest 110 gb leave it unformated @?02:47
Chri[s] Thug-N-Me: Correct02:48
blaze_i don't have emacs02:48
blaze_i mean it won't start02:48
siccnessanyone here use irssi? if so, how dyou close private windows?02:48
siccness*how do02:48
Thug-N-MeChri[s]  and then when im going to install ubuntu how will i tell to leave the 10 Gb with windows on it and use ONLY the rest of the space left ?02:48
_jasonsiccness: /window close, or /wc for short02:48
siccnessthanks mate :)02:49
roryyblaze_: have you installed the emacs21 package ?02:49
siccnessThug-N-Me: Just make sure you don't select the windows partition :)02:49
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Chri[s] Thug-N-Me: a good way to setup your partitions on your linux is in blocks like, maybe 10 gigs for the whole system aka /, 250 megs for /boot, 1 gig for swap space, and then i just dump the rest of the 90 gigs in /home02:49
blaze_roryy, nope :)02:50
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blaze_i'm installing it now02:50
roryyblaze_: ubuntu, alas, does not come with emacs installed by default02:50
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Thug-N-Mesiccness and how will i know which one has windows on it ?02:50
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siccnessIt'll say NTFS02:51
siccnessas the FileSystem.02:51
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blaze_roryy, ok, thank you :)02:51
siccnessWhich means, you'll have "Unpartitioned" - select that one.02:51
Thug-N-Mesiccness ohh i see02:51
Thug-N-Mesiccness ok02:51
Thug-N-MeChri[s]  siccness  someone said to install linux first .. is it better ?02:52
valehruHey guys, having a problem with 32 bit firefox in ubuntu02:52
samuliit's better to install windows first02:52
siccnessInstalling Windows first will probably be easier for you.02:52
valehruthe icon is missing: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1127/screenshot5im.png02:52
valehrutheres an example02:52
siccnessand I'd usually install windows first.02:52
tofarleyhrmm, what is a good AIM/MSN/ICQ messenger program?02:52
tofarleyI'm not a fan of Gaim02:52
Chri[s] heh what they said02:53
siccnessGAIM02:53
siccnessOh, heh.02:53
Frogzootofarley: GAIM02:53
tofarleyheh, the gaim fanboys are in full force today :)02:53
siccnessGood to see I'm not the only one not reading :P02:53
Frogzoo:/02:53
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tahorgtofarley: any irc client + bitlbee02:54
siccnessThug-N-Me: Are you planning on install it now?02:54
Thug-N-Meyes02:54
siccness(Win/Ubuntu) that is.02:54
siccnessDo you have another computer with internet access?02:54
Thug-N-Meyeah02:54
siccnessWell, I'm happy to stay up awhile to assist you through it all.02:54
siccnessI'll have to throw the kettle on though :P02:55
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Thug-N-Me:))02:56
Thug-N-Meheh ok thanks02:56
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Luigi17hola voy a instalar ubuntu en mi maquina y quisiera q me recomendarais una version para q me instale o me espero a q salga una nueva?02:58
_jason!es02:58
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:58
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siccnessHey!02:59
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cellfishhow does one use an ntfs drive from inside ubuntu? like what needs to be done?03:02
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siccnesscellfish, not quite sure but I lost all my data because of it.03:02
_jasonubotu: tell cellfish about ntfs03:02
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siccness(writing to it, anyway).03:03
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Ahmuckhi, i am having problems with some packages03:04
Ahmuckplone to be specific03:04
Ahmuckit states that it will BREAK because of plone203:04
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Ahmuckhowever there is no plone203:04
cellfishaccording to the 'ubotu' dialog, the mounting of ntfs drives in 5.10 is automatic (that's what i'm using)03:04
jfriedhi03:05
cellfishbut i still can't access it.. it's not seen in the browse folders dialog03:05
jfrieddoes anyone know, how i can set the audio recording time in rosegarden4 to more than 3:30 minutes?03:05
fourathow to install the latest kernel version 2.6.17-rc4 on my ubuntu with apt ? i would like to see if with the latest kenel version i will no longer have problems with my sata disk (laptop)03:05
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esjtried installing vmware workstation 5.5 on my laptop (running 5.10) and now it locks up durring X startup and I can't get to any of the virtual consoles.  Any ideas on how to debug/recover?03:07
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fourat!backports03:08
ubotufrom memory, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports03:08
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fourat!kernel03:08
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lppctaesj: you could stop the vmware services from running at boot time03:08
esjlppcta: I expect that would need to use live CD to do that?03:09
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lppctaesj: you would need access to the system.03:10
iNikubooting to single user mode should work03:10
Lejbangam_server running 70% cpu constant, anyone have a solution?03:10
lppctaesj: you could probably do it through the live cd though using chroot03:10
thoreauputicLejban: sudo killall gam-server  :)03:10
esjor as somebody else said, single user mode03:10
siccnessheheh thoreauputic :P03:11
esjI wasn't thinking terribly clearly at 2 a.m. when it failed.  ;-)03:11
thoreauputicsiccness: seriously - it just respawns :)03:11
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siccness:-)03:11
siccnessI'm so awfully close to removing Windows completely, but I need it for visual basic :(03:12
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popeysiccness: you can run windows in qemu under ubuntu03:12
esjlet me try and recover that I will be back to ask questions about figuring out why it failed.  I know I used the right compiler (3.4)03:12
popeysiccness: so you can just boot up windows when you need it inside linux03:12
lppctasiccness: vb 6.0 runs under wine. vb.net runs under mono03:12
siccnessHmm03:12
esjsiccness: I have run Windows under qemu and it's really horrible03:12
thoreauputichmm.. actually it's gam_server and killall won't do it I don't think03:12
esjyou might try and do what I'm doing which is running it under VM Ware03:13
popeyesj: works very well here with latest cvs of qemu03:13
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esjare you using the accelerator?03:13
siccnessI'd rather not run windows whatsoever, but i'll have a look into wine.03:13
popeyyes03:13
thoreauputicesj:  kqemu is much faster ( but I've only used it with linux distros)03:13
thoreauputicstill pretty slow though...03:13
popeywin98se boots in about 11 seconds or so in my qemu03:13
popeymaybe a bit less03:13
siccnessHeh03:13
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marcel__hello, what is the cups username / passwd for admin?03:14
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lppctasiccness: wine isn't actually running windows, it's just passes calls onto linux03:14
siccnessYeah lppcta.03:14
thoreauputicpopey: well, w98 is old - it isn't as bloated as XP03:14
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jfrieddoes anyone know, how i can set the audio recording time in rosegarden to more than 3:30 minutes?03:14
popeyxp doesn't take long here either03:14
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Fr3dd03:14
esjHere's my challenge.  I need it for a couple of things.  First a speech-recognition (I'm handicapped yada yada yada), second is to produce bubbles for dedicated applications for an open-source project I run03:14
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Raymancan I preview incomplete divx/xvid? I can't seek past 00:00:0503:14
siccnessI'll definitely look into wine, if it's stable using vb6.0, then I'll be extremely happy.03:14
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fourathow to install the latest kernel version 2.6.17-rc4 on my ubuntu with apt ? i would like to see if with the latest kenel version i will no longer have problems with my sata disk (laptop)03:15
siccnessThe other option was to manually work vb files in a text editor.03:15
siccnessBut that's not so easy ;P03:15
iskywalker_hi!03:15
iskywalker_i cant convert formulae from latex to html with latex2html03:15
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hastesaveriskywalker_, what does it say?03:15
popeyjust booted to xp in qemu - no more than 40 seconds or so to get to the desktop03:15
iskywalker_the images just look black and with nonsense03:16
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siccness40seconds? eek :P03:16
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chaos_of_apocalyi instaled tvtime but when i use it it exits automatically.what can i do??03:16
iskywalker_chaos_of_apocaly: strace03:16
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iskywalker_strace tvtime03:16
popeythat's a full boot from cold siccness with windows running off a usb disk! :)03:16
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IR0ND4GG3RHEY IM A NEWB HOW DO I GET SUN JAVA IN SO I CAN USE FROSTWIRE?03:17
Morimandohey chaps i need some helf. is anyone available?03:17
hastesaverIR0ND4GG3R, first, turn off capslock03:17
hastesaverIR0ND4GG3R, next, read !restricted03:17
chaos_of_apocalyit stil does not work03:17
lppctasiccness:http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=130 <---- says vb is gold, which means it runs well.although you might have some problems with ActiveX03:17
hastesaver!tell IR0ND4GG3R about restricted03:17
Morimandogot a localization problem i guess, on a website i move the umlauts are missing03:17
IR0ND4GG3Rwheres that at?03:17
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siccnessThanks lppcta, i wasnt expecting such good help!03:18
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hastesaverIR0ND4GG3R, read the link ubotu sent you. (or type /msg ubotu restricted )03:18
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lppctasiccness :)03:18
iskywalker_chaos_of_apocaly: strace tells you why it doesnt work, it doesnt correct the error03:18
imsorryihi03:18
Lejbangam_server running 70% cpu constant, anyone?03:19
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hostixHey03:19
iskywalker_Morimando: maybe the input method is wrong, you can set it on the html, see selfhtml03:19
chaos_of_apocalywith mplayer i can see tv?03:19
hostixhow can i get root privs?03:19
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hybridchaos_of_apocaly: it is possible03:19
hybridhostix: you need to use sudo03:19
chaos_of_apocalyhow03:20
the_mr_bong_showhow is every one today03:20
hostixsudo was it called :D03:20
lppctachaos_of_apocaly: yes - mplayer "dvb://Channel name"03:20
iskywalker_chaos_of_apocaly: sure: mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l03:20
hybridhostix: sudo <command> and enter your user pass03:20
BlueEagle!tell hostix about sudo03:20
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hastesaveriskywalker_, I don't know... look at the HTML source, see what image it links to, see if that image is present, see if you can view that image...03:20
hostixi know about sudo03:20
chaos_of_apocalyon the terminal?03:20
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siccnesslol03:20
hostixi just couldn't remember what is what called03:20
hybridchaos_of_apocaly: yes03:20
BlueEaglehostix: well then why do you ask how to get root access?03:20
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iskywalker_the images just look crappy03:21
MorimandoWe moved the page from suse 8 server to suse 9.3 server and now ubuntu breezy server, but from the 2nd server on the umlauts are fucked03:21
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hostixwhat it was*03:21
BlueEaglehostix: ahh.03:21
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hostixthx03:21
hostixbye bye03:21
IR0ND4GG3Rok i found the thing03:21
BlueEaglemorimando: How are the umlats coded in the web pages, and are the pages valid?03:22
IR0ND4GG3Rbut how do i change the location03:22
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lppctachaos_of_apocaly: if you have a tv pci card, then you can use - mplayer "dvb://channel". although you might need to use the scanning tools to find the channels first03:22
BlueEaglemorimando: ie do you use &ouml; instead of  or was it 03:22
IR0ND4GG3Ri would neeed to make chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin directed to the file in my home folder for example03:22
IR0ND4GG3Rso what would i put and where03:23
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MorimandoThere are some where no &xuml is used, so these are the ones that don't work03:23
iskywalker_Morimando: file muh.html03:23
hastesaverIR0ND4GG3R, use "cd <directory_name>" to go that directory. If you're not comfortable with using the terminal, read !easyubuntu03:23
BlueEagle even03:24
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the_mr_bong_showthe_mr_bong_show says i03:24
the_mr_bong_showhi03:24
Morimandomuh.html?03:24
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IR0ND4GG3Rwhere can i read that at03:24
BlueEaglemorimando: &xuml; isn't a character I've ever seen. How is the encoding set?03:24
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Morimandosorry that i meant to shorten &auml &ouml &uuml ^^03:25
Morimandoso i say &Xuml ^^03:25
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hastesaverIR0ND4GG3R, type "/msg ubotu easyubuntu"03:25
BlueEagleahh03:25
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BlueEaglemorimando: Well you need the semicolon after &Xuml03:25
BlueEagleie &Xuml;03:25
lppcta!tell IROND4GG3R about easyubuntu03:25
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Morimandoah some hint maybe: in putty i haven't got umlauts even in the programs themselves, yet if i work local on the server, i got the umlauts as needed03:26
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iskywalker_Morimando: muh.html was only a example03:27
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BlueEaglemorimando: ubuntu uses utf-8 and not iso8859-1 I think suse 8 used iso8859-1 character encoding. Try altering the setting in putty when connecting.03:28
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hastesaversomething's wrong with the insQEMU.sh script mentioned at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu ?03:28
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thoreauputichastesaver: worked for me...03:28
hastesaverI get "cp: cannot stat `kqemu/kqemu.ko': No such file or directory"03:28
IR0ND4GG3Rso when i use easy ubuntu will that put in the java i need for frostwire03:29
the_mr_bong_show02 what are some of the things i can do on ubuntu03:29
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Larsson-SwedenWhen trying to to play a video with fbxine, i get "video port failed" . It worked fine in Suse.03:29
thoreauputichastesaver: did you follow the full instructions? And is this on breezy?03:29
BlueEaglehastesaver: You're missing the kqemu kernel object (isn't that what ko stands for?)03:29
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siccnessJesus I'm an idiot sometime, trying to use apt-get when Synaptic is open :|03:29
Morimandoah okay i'll try. i also didn't load the module for iso8859-1, only for -1503:29
hastesaverthoreauputic, yes, on breezy03:29
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hastesaverthoreauputic, and I just used the insQEMU.sh script, instead of the other detailed one03:29
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thoreauputichastesaver: the whole thing compiled and installed flawlessly here03:29
hastesaverBlueEagle, where do I get that from?03:29
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thoreauputichastesaver: I used the script too03:30
FaithXsiccness: Jesus doesn't think yao're an idiot03:30
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siccness:-)03:30
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hastesaverthoreauputic, As far as I can see, the full instructions are "download the script and run it" -- is there something more?03:30
Larsson-SwedenWhen running mplayer in fb, how to adjust the screen? The image is far too much to the left.03:31
thoreauputichastesaver: hmm, I did it a while ago...03:32
thoreauputichastesaver: I actually don't really remeber to be honest03:32
thoreauputic*remember03:32
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Drac|WinI'm on a 600MHz iMac G3, and it's acting strange. X is being very, very, very laggy if not completely disfunctional. The video driver is properly set to "ati" and soforth. What could be wrong?03:34
thoreauputichastesaver: you have build-essential installed etc?03:34
johanneshi, im looking for a lan scanner which shows me all windows/samba shares in the scanned ip range, and where i can access these shares with just a double click or something like that. any ideas?03:34
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hastesaverthoreauputic, yes03:34
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dliI need recommendations for packages to be installed on a livecd :)03:35
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gnomefreakdli: build-essential?03:35
Jimmey__If I did a server install, and then apt-got GDM and Gnome etc, would that...work?03:36
Larsson-SwedenCan't play videos in fbxine. "Video port failed"03:36
dlignomefreak, others?03:36
Morimandohm even if we adjust putty to use -15 it still has no umlauts. that's weird. Can i tell Ubuntu to use 8859-1 as standard locale?03:36
Morimandomaybe that would be better03:36
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thoreauputicJimmey__: sure - but you can just install ubuntu-desktop03:37
gnomefreakdli: a bunch but would move this to #ubuntu-offtopic03:37
Jimmey__thoreauputic, but that comes with too many packages that I don't want.03:37
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thoreauputicJimmey__: so pick what you want and install that03:37
thoreauputicJimmey__: you'll need x-window-system-core at least03:38
Jimmey__thoreauputic, I'll mess around later03:38
BlueEagle!info xubuntu-desktop03:38
ubotuxubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB03:38
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thoreauputicJimmey__: use apt-cache search to find what you need03:38
esjfor future reference, the grub entry for recovery mode is the same as single user mode03:38
BlueEaglejimmey__: xubuntu-desktop might be what you want.03:38
thoreauputicBlueEagle: although he did mention gnome...03:39
Super_Cat_FrogHi. Ive just installed the latest dapper, the first time it booted, the wlan worked, when i upgraded using 'adept', and rebooted, im now getting this: ifconfig eth0 up \n eth0: ERROR while getting interface, no such device. The module (ipw2200) is already loaded and the radio is turned on. any suggestions?03:39
esjcurrent confusion is that as I try to disable vmware start up strips03:39
Jimmey__!dapper03:39
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)03:39
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esjupdate-rc is telling me that the vmware entries in the various rcN directories are not links even though they are links03:39
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MorimandoHow can I tell Ubuntu to use iso8859-1 as standard instead of utf8?03:40
BlueEagleesj: have you checked the owner, group and access rights and compared them to the other links?03:40
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HfuyAfternoon all.03:40
Morimando03:40
esja soft link is a soft link but yes I will check03:40
Jimmey__Morimando, you mean with Gedit?03:40
Morimandosystemwide03:40
BlueEaglemorimando: umlats show here.03:40
HfuyHow do I change the application a file opens with? I'd like to make *.avi open with VLC not Totem.03:40
Morimandopico, nano, putty ^^03:40
MorimandoPutty doesn't use the umlauts correctly03:41
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BlueEagle!utf-803:41
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlueEagle03:41
esjBlueEagle:  interesting.  VM Ware startup script was created with 555 permissions03:41
esjcould that be why it's not starting up right?03:41
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phreakazHy everybody, how can I adjust my X-screen to fit my monitor size, currently I have big margins on all sides (but only when using 1600x1200, with 1200x1024 it's OK). I some distris, when setting up the X-Server, have a tool to size/position your screen.03:42
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HfuyI just put Ubuntu on a laptop and it detected the odd widescreen display perfectly - I was very surprised.03:43
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dliHfuy, should be03:44
HfuyYeah it should be03:44
jfrieddoes anyone know, how i can set the audio recording time in rosegarden to more than 3:30 minutes?03:44
HfuyBut it usually doesn't.03:44
BlueEagleesj: It's a possibility.03:44
HfuyCan someone advise me how to change default applications?03:44
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phreakazMight be cause I use a keyboard/monitor switch, that ubuntu has some difficulies with detecting my monitor right03:44
bimberi!defaultapp03:45
ubotuTo change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting03:45
dliHfuy, System -> Preferences -> Preferred applications03:45
BlueEagleesj: as a basic rule: If an executable file does not execute it has probably not got the executabel flag set. :)03:45
HfuyThanks.03:45
_foffenHfuy: als see http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch09.html#id254080403:45
_foffen;)03:45
HfuyUh no. That's about setting up mail readers03:45
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HfuyAh right that's fixed it.03:46
HfuyVLC doesn't do sound, but I'm assuming codec issues.03:46
HfuyIs there some standard codec pack I can get with apt03:46
fourats03:46
fourathow to install the latest kernel version 2.6.17-rc4 on my ubuntu with apt ? i would like to see if with the latest kenel version i will no longer have problems with my sata disk (laptop)03:46
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dlifourat, "sudo apt-get install kernel-package"03:47
fouratkernel-package ? wich version ?03:47
dli!kernel-package03:48
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dli03:48
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dlifourat, okay, /join #debian, and ask dpkg (the bot) about kernel-package03:48
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dliany big brother here? teach ubotu about kernel-package03:48
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Jimmey__after I ifconfig ra0 up, ifup ra0 doesn't work..03:49
Jimmey__I want to be able to configure ra0 through the command line03:49
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SmurkRebonjour03:50
SmurkOups, erreur de chan.03:51
SmurkAu revoir. :)03:51
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BlueEagle!info setlocale03:51
bimberidli: you can do it :)03:52
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dlibimberi, big brothers must do something here anyway03:53
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bimberidli: 'ubotu, kernel-package is blah blah blah'03:53
chris85chello03:53
Drac|WinMy Ubuntu installation is running a LOT slower than it should with a 600MHz processor. X.Org is, anyway. Text is unnoticeable.. because it's text. Anyway, can somebody help?03:53
Jimmey__Can ifup work on a ra0 interface03:53
Pokeri have kubuntu...and everytime i type ./configure i have this error "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"03:53
Pokersomeone can help me ?03:53
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dliJimmey__, yes, if it's set in interfaces03:54
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Jimmey__dli, how can I check03:54
Jimmey__dli, never mind03:54
dliJimmey__, less /etc/network/interfaces03:54
bimberiPoker: sudo aptitude install build-essential03:54
Hfuyapt doesn't seem to think that "mplayer-386" exists03:54
Pokerthanks bimberi03:55
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dliHfuy, apt-cache search03:55
bimberiPoker: yw :)03:55
Omashey, im trying to compile my sound drivers but when i run the configure script i get "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables03:55
Omas"03:55
Omashow can i fix it?03:55
bimberiHfuy: it's in the multiverse repository, which isn't enabled by default ...03:56
bimberi!tell Hfuy about multiverse03:56
HfuyI see.03:56
HfuyI think I know how to do that04:00
dliOmas, do you have gcc? "gcc -v"04:00
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Omasgcc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)04:00
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dliOmas, anyway, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"04:00
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bimberiHfuy: if not, ubotu's /msg should help04:00
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BlueEaglemorimando: You can start the program you're editing with with the 'LC_ALL=iso8859-1' before it. ie: LC_ALL=iso8859-1 pico04:00
RaymanHey how could I preview icomplete mp4g files on ubuntu?04:00
Raymanmpeg404:00
BlueEaglemorimando: that will give you iso8859-1 charmap in that program (provided it's locale aware, which most programs are)04:00
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Omasdli, thx04:00
munzirHi, I did apt-get upgrade in a terminal and closed it while it's working now I want to bring it to foreground so from ps I know it's job number. I did fg %29197 but it's telling me no such job!04:00
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munzirRayman: mplayer04:00
amphiRayman: mplayer?04:00
Raymanmunzir: I get an error message saying seek failed.04:00
HfuyOkay, I enabled universe and multiverse, and mplayer is installing.04:00
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munzirRayman: try mplayer -idx yourfile.mp404:00
Raymanthe file's non-continous04:00
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Raymantried that too04:00
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johannesi have several programs which require a libc6 version >2.3.6-6, but the current version of libc6 seems to be 2.3.2.dsl-20ubuntu14. what can i do?04:00
munzirRayman: maybe the file is missing essential parts from it's header04:00
HfuySomehow, this machine has generated an FTP link to a server called Indigobox, which I really wanted to be a windows file and print type connection, presumably through Samba.04:00
Raymanmunzir: hmh. bummer. ty anway.04:00
Omasi dont know if this is the right place , but what the h*ll when i run the "make" command after i have configured the make script i get http://pastebin.com/71526804:00
hyphenatedmunzir: jobs are only relevant to the shell they were started in.04:00
munzirhyphenated: Umm! so how can I bring it now so I see the ouput?04:01
hyphenatedmunzir: you've already closed the shell, so you can't04:01
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dliOmas, install gcc-3.[234] , remove gcc-4.*04:02
Omask04:02
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munzirhyphenated: but i know it's running now on the background since du /var/cache/apt shows files are getting downloaded04:02
BlueEaglemorimando: however, I could not find how to make it system wide. Perhals LC_ALL=iso8859-1 /bin/bash04:02
BlueEagleperhaps*04:03
HfuyCan I get Ubuntu to recognise Windows style hostnames, as in "ping foobox" rather than "ping 111.222.333.444"04:03
hyphenatedmunzir: that's fine, but you can't attach your new terminal to it after detaching it from a different terminal04:03
Larsson-SwedenNeed help with aaxine! The only driver that works is the ASCI one. Want to run it with vidixfb, but it says: "error occured during PCI-scan: operation not permitted" and "libdha: Can't open /dev/dhahelper"04:03
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Morimandohm perhaps ^^04:03
harisundHfuy you could put it in your /etc/hosts file and then use ping foolbox04:03
spectiewhat is the package for the xfs kernel module in dapper ?04:03
Morimandocan that do damage if i try it?04:03
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Hfuyharisund: There's no auto resolution of that sort of thing?04:03
harisundDoes anybody here know how to purge software that was compiled from source?04:03
munzirhyphenated: that's sad. this is maybe why some one come with that tool "screen"04:04
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dliHfuy, it's called DNS04:04
hyphenatedmunzir: yup :-)04:04
harisundHfuy: I doubt it. You will have to manually add the names of the machines, or the DNS server that you are connecting to should know it04:04
harisunddli beat me.04:04
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BlueEagleharisund: /etc/hosts is where you can assign names to ip adresses.04:04
tjb891ok, i have a Belkin 802.11g USB adapter, how do I get that to work with Ubuntu?04:04
Hfuydli: Sure, but it doesn't seem to be working04:04
BlueEagleharisund: sorry, nick completion error04:04
harisundBlueEagle :)04:05
HfuyAnd the DNS is my ISP's DNS server.04:05
hyphenatedmunzir: now they need to find a way to save a shell state and load it later, for all those times when you didn't start a screen session and wish you had ;-)04:05
HfuySo it won't know about my home network...04:05
Omasdli, how i just get "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH04:05
Omas"04:05
harisundhyphenated they do?04:05
Omasnow*04:05
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BlueEaglehfuy: try /etc/hosts unless you've got a ton of machines.04:05
dliHfuy, you run your own DNS, or simply put them in /etc/hosts :( as you were already told04:05
hyphenatedharisund: has someone done it already?04:05
munzirhyphenated: yes ;)04:05
HfuyBleargh, that's not great.04:05
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harisundhyphenated I thought you knew about saving the state and loading it lated.04:06
Innocent_Strangeplz any one can help me ...how can i establish networking among compyter using windows 98 and server using ubuntu04:06
HfuyNext thing.04:06
hyphenatedharisund: of a shell that hasn't been started inside screen.. no, how's that done?04:06
dliOmas, reinstall your gcc-3.* packages04:06
spectieInnocent_Strange, apt-get install samba04:06
harisund*later.. nevertheless, I have a line in my .bashrc that always loads me onto a screen session whenever I log in.04:06
HfuyI can see one of my windows servers from Ubuntu, but when attempting to access \\ubuntubox\ via Windows, there's issues.04:06
hyphenatednono, that's cheating ;-)04:06
HfuyIt seems to attempt to log on to "localhost.localdomain" for some reason.04:06
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HfuyI can log onto my Windows servers fine04:07
Innocent_Strange<spectie> plz i dont understand u04:07
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Hfuy(from other windows servers)04:07
duraHfuy, edit /etc/sambe/smb.conf04:07
grogoreofor some reason on my iAUDIO mp3 player when I try to delete the trash folder .Trash-grogoreo it puts the mounted hard drive of the player to read only. I haven't a clue why it's doing this. I've had it since last Christmas and it was fine. It doesn't go 'read-only' on windows but windows does have some problems deleting some of the folders files as does linux saying something about input and output04:07
Khamaelhow do I get an Olympus E-500 to work in ubuntu?04:07
Omasdli, i still get it04:07
MorimandoHm how do i manually load de_DE@Euro? maybe that helps04:07
duramake sure encrypted passwords are enabled, check the workgroup name04:07
kevinhi,i'm kevin04:07
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harisundhyphenated, it would be nice to have a method of saving a shell session as is for later restoration. I don't knwo of any method that claims to do that yet. But I like my line in the .bashrc file :)04:08
harisundDoes anybody here know how to purge software that was compiled from source?04:08
dliOmas, "ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*"04:08
kevini am really a fresher in linux04:08
hyphenatedgrogoreo: one of the mount options is probably errors=remount-ro04:08
durathen make sure passwords are set for the windows user name and that the ubuntu server has the same username/password04:08
kevin are there anyone help me ?04:08
Omasdli, i made a symlink from gcc-3.4 to gcc :)04:08
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durasmbpasswd04:08
kevini can not paly .mp3 file04:08
hyphenatedgrogoreo: you should be able to guess what that does ;-)04:08
Omasim a total n00b :)04:09
durakevin, Hang on I have a link for you04:09
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munzir!mp304:09
ubotu[mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:09
munzirkevin: !mp304:09
durakevin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:09
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grogoreohyphenated, I've looked in fstab and there's nothing about my IAUDIO04:09
duratoo slow lol04:09
hyphenatedharisund: screen sessions interferes with a few things for me, so I don't want them all the time. but alas, once a week I get stuck in something that makes me wish I could go back in time and run it in screen ;-)04:10
McNutella!tell me about samba04:10
HfuyI can edit smb.conf all day but it won't explain why I can see one win server but not another.04:10
HfuyAnd no it isn't a firewall issue.04:10
harisundhyphenated do you have an xample of something that screen interferes with?04:10
grogoreohyphenated, well I've just done: $ mount and found this line:   /dev/sda1 on /media/IAUDIO type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8) doesn't seem to halt on errors04:10
Omasdli, now i get http://pastebin.com/71528204:10
duraHfuy, Like I said you have to use smbpasswd to add the users on the ubuntu box for samba04:10
hyphenatedharisund: crtl-a to get to the start of the line. shift+pgup to scroll up04:10
harisundhyphenated: oh ok ok ..04:11
Innocent_Strangeplz any one can help me ...how can i establish networking among compyter using windows 98 and server using ubuntu04:11
kevin sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad04:11
kevinReading package lists... Done04:11
kevinBuilding dependency tree... Done04:11
kevinE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad04:11
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bbrazilInnocent_Strange: are you trying to share files between them?04:11
Hfuydura: I didn't have to do that for win box A. Why is it different for win box B?04:11
McNutellaInnocent_Strange: you have already been told04:11
hyphenatedharisund: I use those about once a minute ;-)04:11
durakevin, Read the right section of the howto04:11
harisundhyphenated, in what software?04:11
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harisundhyphenated: i mean, which text editor?04:11
Innocent_Strangeya04:11
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Innocent_Strangebbrazil04:11
duraHfuy, Is this a windows xp box?04:11
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duraHfuy, Everytihng before windows xp didn't use encrypted passwords and stuff.04:12
HfuyThe one that works is.04:12
duraTrust me I run a  samba server here.04:12
HfuyThe other one is 2K, which as far as I know runs similarly.04:12
Innocent_Strangebbrazil plz help me04:12
bbrazildura: eeeh, 98 uses hashed passwords04:12
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hyphenatedharisund: bash shell, konsole.04:12
duraHfuy, Does the 2K box has a password set for the user account? Does it match the samba servers users name/password?04:12
Innocent_Strangewhat i should dp for networking bbrazil04:12
kevinhold on,i have a question to u guys,have u ever heard of CDC software?04:13
dliOmas, can you pastebin the source file for  /root/alsa-driver-1.0.4/kbuild/../acore/hwdep.c:33: error: parse error before st ring constant04:13
hyphenatedgrogoreo: sorry, that was the only sensible idea I had04:13
bbrazilInnocent_Strange: can you ping the systems?04:13
McNutellacan I use samba with bluetooth ?04:13
durabrb04:13
Hfuydura: It isn't giving me any opportunity to set samba passwords04:13
bbrazilMcNutella: if it supports IP, I can't see why not04:13
hyphenatedgrogoreo: you could fsck it I suppose to check for errors04:13
Hfuyif it was asking for a username/password, I'd give it one - but it isn't. There's not even an icon to click on.04:13
Omasdli, 2sec04:13
McNutellaso where is samba kept once I install it, isn there a GUI for it ?04:13
thoreauputic!samba04:14
ubotufrom memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html04:14
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kujaFunny, I just got done configuring samba :)04:14
bbrazilMcNutella: there's SWAT, but the last time I checked (~5 years ago) it was a HCI nightmare04:14
duraHfuy, You have to use smbpasswd04:14
duraThats the 3rd time I've told you that04:15
bbrazilMcNutella: /etc/samba/smb.conf is the file you want04:15
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duraNot everything is point-n-click04:15
kujasmbpasswd -a your_username04:15
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McNutellabbrazil: thank you, and Ill leave swat for now LOL04:16
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BockBilbohello04:17
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BockBilbowhats the proper way to configure the system path?04:17
Khamaelhas anybody gotten an Olympus E-500 to work i ubuntu?04:17
BockBilbowith bashrc?04:17
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hastesaverBockBilbo, export PATH=...04:18
BockBilbohastesaver, i know that04:18
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harisundDoes anybody here know how to purge software that was compiled from source? When I do the make install it places various files in various directories on my file sytem :(04:18
BockBilbothe issue is that i want it to load by default04:18
Omasdli, http://pastebin.com/71529804:18
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duraBockBilbo, Yes ~/.bashrc04:18
hastesaverBockBilbo, put that in your .bashrc, it will load by default. Or do you mean something else?04:18
duraEXPORT is temporary04:19
paolob-parroquiaHi guys! How do I hear mms streams?04:19
McNutellabbrazil: i guess samba starts automatically04:19
duraBockBilbo, btw Jackson is startingf work on The Hobbit :)04:19
bbrazilMcNutella: should do04:19
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duraMcNutella, /etc/init.d/samba start | restart | stop04:19
hastesaverdura, oh, you mean I don't have to write EXPORT for my .bashrc lines? That's true; I just write EXPORT out of force of habit :)04:19
BockBilbohastesaver, dura but, will the configuration run when loging in to my user gnome desktop?04:19
McNutellathank you dura04:20
duraNo you don't hehe04:20
duraBockBilbo, Yes04:20
hastesaverBockBilbo, when you start the terminal, yes.04:20
duraAfter making the changes log out and back in...04:20
BockBilboyeah04:20
durashould be good to go04:20
BockBilbothats the point04:20
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BockBilboi dont want to start the terminal04:20
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duraYou won't have too04:20
BockBilbook04:20
BockBilbolets try04:20
duraJust log out and back in and the new path will be used.04:20
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durapath(s)04:21
BockBilbo(im configuring jmf for programing)04:21
dliOmas, do you have linux-headers ?04:21
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BockBilbothanks dura, hastesaver04:21
Omasdli, yes04:21
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Omaslinux-headers-2.6.12-10-38604:21
dliOmas, and for your kernel version?04:22
Omasyes04:22
Omaslinux 2.6.12-10-38604:22
duranp04:22
BockBilbodura, hastesaver i dont have a .bashrc file on my user home, should i create it?04:23
duraI have soime good stuff on http://duralinux.no-ip.org if anyone wants to check it out04:23
hastesaverBockBilbo, Files beginning with a . are "hidden", maybe it already exists04:23
duraBockBilbo, It's a hideen file in your home///04:23
hastesaverBockBilbo, but if it doesn't exist, create it04:23
duraBockBilbo, So type nano -w ~/.bashrc04:23
dliOmas, and you have build-essential?04:23
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BockBilbo...04:23
duraBockBilbo, Or you can use /etc/bashrc04:23
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BockBilboi know its hidden...04:23
duraeither or will do the same thing04:23
BockBilbo;)04:24
BockBilbook04:24
BockBilboill configure the /etc/bashrc04:24
duraI'd suggest making one in your ~/04:24
BockBilboso i make it all user accesible04:24
_jasonBockBilbo: there is a default one that should get created in /etc/skel/.bashrc04:24
dura /etc/bashrc is system wide.. eg. for all users.04:24
dura~/.bashrc is just for your user...04:24
hastesaverBockBilbo, it's safer to mess with your own files than to affect the systemwide installation.. how many users do you have, anyway?04:24
duraExactly04:24
Omasdli, yes04:24
duraI have 22 users on one of my server...04:25
thoreauputicdura: /etc/bash.bashrc in Debian/Ubuntu04:25
BockBilbodura, are them phisical users?04:25
BockBilbowow04:25
BockBilboxD04:25
duraBockBilbo, Well... they log in via ssh04:25
BockBilboi see04:25
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BockBilboi am the only server on both my server and my laptop04:26
BockBilboanyway04:26
duraA bunch of people from the Yahoo chat room LFS:1 use it for sharing stuff, and also a few of us are working on some web sites..04:26
duraWE built a site for the chat room too04:26
durahttp://lfs1.no-ip.org04:26
duraThat runs on a Ubuntu server04:26
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duraMy site runs on a Slackware box04:26
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duraand i'm using Gentoo right now lol04:27
BockBilbomine on ubuntu04:27
duraThis laptop dual-boots Gentoo and Ubuntu04:27
dliOmas, sorry, I don't know how to debug then :( I'm not running ubuntu myself04:27
duraMy other laptop boots doze and Ubuntu04:27
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Omasdli, okay thx for all your help04:27
BockBilbomine does so, i need doze for engeneering programs.. sucks04:27
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duraWhat programs?04:28
duraI do some engineering too04:28
duramechanical engineering04:28
linux_galoreyeah Linux has some comercial engineering apps now04:28
duraThere are some pretty nice apps04:28
durafor linux04:28
durajust as powerful as autocad04:28
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duraif not better actually...04:28
BockBilboAgilent ADS, for instanc04:28
BockBilbo*instance04:29
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linux_galoreautocad is getting a bit crusty04:29
duraeeos!04:29
duraeeps04:29
durahehe04:29
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BockBilboxD04:29
durasup?04:29
linux_galoredura: not much04:29
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duraI thought I was the only one who came here...04:29
grogoreoI've just tried to do fsck on my mp3 player and it picks up three errors. The first says that there are differences between my boot sector and its backup. I told it to copy the backup to the origional and vise-versa and it comes back when I repeat the test. Then it says the 'FATs' differ and tried both the first and second and still it comes back. Then it says there a free clusters and lists files on my drive (that i had problems deleted earlier) an04:29
grogoreod I say to correct it but nothing happens. It even says "Leaving file system unchanged."04:29
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duralinux_galore, Seen the lfs1 website yet?04:29
linux_galoredura: Ive got lfs04:30
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linux_galorebut I havent got a clue what lfs1 is04:30
HfuyHmm. Won't play embedded quicktime, but then that's expected.04:30
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duralinux_galore, i mean for the yahoo chat room04:30
duralinux_galore, http://lfs1.no-ip.org04:31
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duraroot_of_all_evil and I are working on it.. I'm hosting it04:31
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duraI'm also hosting duralinux.org, and a site for 000_kane_ooo04:31
HfuyIs there any way of getting Firefox to play embedded quicktime under Ubuntu?04:31
duraerr ooo_kane_ooo04:31
BockBilbo_jason, im going to copy the bash template at /etc/skel/.bashrc on my home directory, is that ok?04:31
duraHfuy, Good question... check that howto I posted earlier on restricted formats?04:32
linux_galoreHfuy: use wine04:32
hastesaverHfuy, One way is mplayerplug-in and mplayer04:32
HfuyWell no, if I'm going to use wine, I'll just use windows.04:32
linux_galoreHfuy: or try openquicktime04:32
hastesaverHfuy, another way is totem-gstreamer-plugin, which I'm not sure is nice04:32
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HfuyWe have the mplayer plugin, but it doesn't seem to work all that well.04:32
chris85chello, what is the package name of the gui library wxpython?  anyone know so i can install it?04:32
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duraopenquicktime works well04:32
HfuyIt's failed to run real media.04:32
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duraChri[s] , ncurses04:32
linux_galoreHfuy: ?? you dont have to install windows to sue wine04:32
linux_galoreuse*04:32
HfuyAnyway it's not important, we didn't expect to have this stuff work.04:33
HfuyWhat I did expect to work was samba...04:33
duraHfuy, Want a copy of my smb.conf file to look at?04:33
duraI can toss one up for you...04:33
HfuyI doubt it'd mean much to me04:33
linux_galoreHfuy: did you initiate the setup with swat04:33
duraHfuy, You could cp it to /etc/samba and edit it to fit your needs04:33
samulihfuy, is the problem with samba logging in?04:33
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duralinux_galore, originally helped me get samba working like 5 years ago04:34
linux_galoreHfuy: I usually start my setup of samba by running swat then I just edit the samba.conf file for the more complex stuff04:34
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duramaybe I should have lol04:34
HfuyThe issue is that I can log into one windows machine but not the other, and I can't see Linux from Windows at all.04:34
samulithere really should be gui to configure samba.04:34
linux_galoredura: saves allot of time04:35
duraeeps, can you get into yahoo?04:35
samuliwouldn't be too hard to make either.04:35
linux_galoresamuli: yes there is its called swat04:35
samulioh, right.04:35
linux_galoresamuli: its even on the samba home page04:35
samulibut something with like all the options.04:35
duraeeps, well the last samba setup I did took about 5 minutes... but it wasn't very complicated... just file and print sharing...04:35
durano roaming profiles or anything04:35
duraor NIS etc.04:35
HfuyAlso I am stuck with this FTP connection to a machine that doesn't run an FTP client04:35
linux_galoresamuli: swat has 90% of the stuff you need04:35
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duraHfuy, Can you get ssh access?04:35
siriusnovahello04:35
Hfuyto what04:36
samulilinx_galore, thanks. Gonna check that up.04:36
durathe ftp server04:36
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durassh > ftp04:36
samulicall me lazy, but I generally don't like editing text files.04:36
duraand it's secure04:36
siriusnovawhen i add 2 repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list and run aptitude update i get the following:04:36
siriusnovaGet:2 http://xgl.compiz.info dapper Release.gpg [191B] 04:36
siriusnovaIgn http://www.beerorkid.com dapper/main Packages04:36
HfuyI don't want to FTP04:36
HfuyI have no interest in FTP04:36
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siriusnovaits ignoring the repos04:36
siriusnovawhy?04:36
Hfuyit just randomly created an FTP connection when I tried "connect to server"04:36
duraHfuy, You just said you had ftp access with no ftp client04:36
HfuyI'd love to get rid of it04:36
duraohh04:36
duramy bad04:36
revartjhello04:37
HfuyI have no access, I have an icon that says "indigobox" with an FTP icon04:37
revartji have to problem04:37
duraHfuy, Use ssh then... it's just like logging into the machine on site04:37
gnomefreaksiriusnova: ise pastebin and paste the full output of sudo apt-get update please04:37
Hfuyuse ssh to do what04:37
samulii thought the ign: was pretty normal.04:37
duraHfuy, The server you want access too04:37
eugmanSome of you should checkout ubuntu.wordpress.com It has some useful hints and answers to questions that come up on here occasionally04:37
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HfuyTo do what to the server I want access to?04:38
siriusnovagnomefreak - http://pastebin.com/71533104:38
linux_galoreHfuy: open konqueror type  fish://192.168.etc.etc  or  fish://joeblogs@192.168.etc.etc04:38
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revartji have that insert to module in the kernel and saw this -->04:38
revartjinsmod: can't read 'dvbinput.so': No such file or directory04:38
linux_galoreHfuy: no brainer ssh file management front end04:38
BockBilbowhats the difference between exporting avariable or not in bash?04:38
durayeah Konqueror is handy also04:38
HfuyI need it to talk to a windows network.04:38
HfuyYou know. For file sharing.04:38
HfuyNothing to do with SSH or FTP.04:39
duraBockBilbo, Exporting is temporary04:39
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BockBilboi mean, for instance: export PATH=$PATH:/home/user/bin or classpath=/home/user/javaclasses04:39
BockBilbodura, how temporal?04:39
duraBockBilbo, the exported path will stay until you logout04:39
gnomefreaksiriusnova: its hitting them fine but you dont have ubuntu repos in your list?04:39
BockBilboi see04:39
linux_galoreHfuy: I use a thing called smb4k to connect to windows shares from Linux04:39
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siriusnovagnome- i dont see their packages in synaptic04:40
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BockBilboso, for the path, should i use export or not?04:40
HfuyI can connect to my XP box but not 2K04:40
siriusnovathe XGL and COmpiz packages dont show up04:40
linux_galorewhereis smb4k: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/search.php04:40
HfuyAnd I can't connect from Windows to Linux at all04:40
HfuyI have no idea why, I have changed no settings04:40
Larsson-SwedenI have compiled mplayer, and there is no xv video driver!04:40
Larsson-SwedenNo fullscreen.04:40
revartjhelop04:40
linux_galoreHfuy: use putty to do that04:40
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gnomefreaksiriusnova: you need all repos enabled not just those 204:40
duraeeps, can you get into lfs:1 ?04:41
BockBilbosiriusnova, #ubuntu-xgl04:41
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siriusnovaBockBilbo thx04:41
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duraI hope The Hobbit is finished soon04:41
linux_galoredura: yes04:41
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duraeeps, What client?04:41
pvd2000running linux out of ram is pretty fast:)04:41
linux_galoredura: gaim04:41
Ahmucki am having problems with adept and the installation of a package04:42
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linux_galoreAhmuck: did you download the package04:42
Hfuydo I just assume ubuntu simply can't talk to older versions of windows04:42
duraHfuy, No04:42
duraIt can04:43
BockBilbothanks for everything04:43
BockBilbo:)04:43
linux_galoreHfuy: no more along the lines of Microsoft keeps changing things04:43
BockBilbobye04:43
Ahmuckyes, i am trying to install plone.  it however says it has a BREAK package.  the package it conflicts is plone2.  however there is no plone204:43
duraHfuy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%2904:43
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mustard_  /window unbind #ubuntu04:44
linux_galoreAhmuck: if you download a package your basically not going to have ti working in 80% of cases04:44
linux_galoreAhmuck: use the package manager04:44
HfuyThat how-to tells me to install Samba.04:44
HfuyI must already have Samba for it to talk to the XP box.04:44
duraand how to set it up too04:44
Ahmucki have been using the package manager.  adept04:44
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linux_galoreAhmuck: you havent if you downloaded a package04:45
Kr0ntabHfuy, you need to make sure yer win2k has file and print sharing installed... along with the NetBios protocol installed.04:45
linux_galoreAhmuck: the package manager does that04:45
durayou could use dpkg -i foo.deb04:45
HfuyKr0ntab: The windows network talks amongst itself fine04:45
AhmuckBREAK (install)04:45
Kr0ntaband follow instructions from the page dura game you04:45
linux_galoredura: he has broken deps04:45
duraohh04:45
HfuyNeither XP nor 2K can talk to Linux. Linux can talk only to XP.04:45
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HfuyThat is the situation.04:45
Ahmuckconflict prone204:45
Ahmuckreplaces plone204:45
HfuyIn the workgroup, the 2K box does not appear.04:46
duraHfuy, If you're not going to read that howto you'll never get things working. We're not going to read the howto for you.04:46
linux_galoreAhmuck: basically you have downloaded a package that needs other packages to work, but the problem is you already have "newer" packages installed so it wont install anyway04:46
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tamhi all, i'm having a problem with my us2 hdd. it was being recognised a few days ago but then stopped working. i have it formated as ext3 and dmesg reports the following when I plug it in but when i try and mount it with mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/big it can't find it and the same happens when i try and see if fdisk sees it. anyway here is the dmesg part of the log:[4434409.979000]  usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 704:47
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Ahmuckrecomended zope-speedpack04:47
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Ahmuckbut there is not zope-speedpack listed in adept04:47
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linux_galoreAhmuck: did you add multiverse to apt04:48
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Ahmuckso do i install plone by hand ?04:48
Ahmuckyes04:48
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CuriousCathas anyone tried using the driver from ATI for the x1400?04:48
Hfuyis there some inherent incompatibility with 2K I need to know about?04:48
linux_galoreAhmuck: well your only option is to build from source04:48
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Ahmucki thought the package manager was supposed to do this04:48
siccnessCuriousCat: Sometime tomorrow I'll be giving it a shot.04:48
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linux_galoreAhmuck: no the package manager wont install "old" packages with "old dependencies" because it breaks your install04:49
Kr0ntabhfuy... to get it going you need to make sure all the correct protocols are installed and configured properly.  that includes tyhe XP/2k and linux hosts...04:50
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Ahmuckdoes this means there is no package for plone for dapper at this time ?04:50
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Ahmucklinux_galore: at least i understand now why it is breaking, because of an old package04:50
linux_galoreAhmuck: have you gone to the plone home page04:50
Kr0ntabHfuy, there are no compatability issues with win2k04:51
HfuyOK, I can now access the 2K box.04:51
Ahmucklinux_galore: i have04:51
HfuyIt appears in the workgrounp "workgroup", which is not the workgroup it is actually in.04:51
linux_galoreAhmuck: sometimes the project guys create packages for download for specific distro's04:51
HfuyIt's actually in the workgroup "production"04:51
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megaman123hi all...installing ubuntu for the first time (linux newbie) and my target is to get vdr to run with nexus-s dvb card ...anyone here familier can help?04:51
linux_galoreAhmuck: well your going to have to build from source04:51
Ahmucki wanted to do it through adept, yes i can build from source, but i was hoping to do all software installation through adept04:51
CuriousCatsiccness, would you let me know if it worked and how you did it?04:51
linux_galoreAhmuck: I want 1 million dollars doesnt mean I will get it04:52
Ahmuck:-p04:52
siccnessSure can/will.04:52
siccnessAlthough I'll be following a tutorial available on ubuntuforums.org04:52
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CuriousCatsiccness, the docs seem to state it's good for fedora/red hat, but doesn't say anything on ubuntu/debian.04:52
CuriousCatsiccness, oh? could you point me to it?04:52
siccnessSure can champ, hang on a sec.04:52
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lufisHow can I change the permissions of an entire directory's contents?04:53
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HfuyI really don't mean to be pejorative here, but why is it so insanely tricky to set Samba up to allow incoming shares?04:53
siccnesshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2455704:53
bon_is there anyway to troble shoot ./configure make install04:53
ketsugiHfuy: it isn't04:54
CuriousCatsiccness, coolness! Thanks for the tip. Will look into it now. :)04:54
ketsugiPlaces > Connect to server04:54
ketsugiselect Windows Share04:54
ketsugiand enter the info04:54
ketsugiand you're in.04:54
siccnessToo easy :)04:54
CuriousCatalso, has anyone tried to make this modem work: HDAUDIO SoftV92 Data Fax Modem with SmartCP04:54
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ketsugior you could add a line to your /etc/fstab to automount it04:54
linux_galoreCuriousCat: is it use or serial04:54
Kr0ntabmegaman123, vdr has a precompiled package in ubuntu...04:54
linux_galoreCuriousCat: is it USB or serial04:55
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megaman123Kr0ntab: any pointers ???04:55
HfuyWhere does Samba get its native workgroup name?04:55
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CuriousCatlinux_galore, uhm... it's integrated into my laptop. :)04:55
nny how do i disable the ubuntu start up splash screen for diagnostics04:56
linux_galoreCuriousCat: aaah, bet its a software modem so your shit out of luck04:56
Kr0ntabso.. once yer linux installation is complete... you will have to make sure you have the universe repositories configured... install vdr... and yer good04:56
muepmegaman123, have you enabled the universe and multiverse repositories04:56
siccnessYeah, sounds like a challenge to me CuriousCat.04:56
muep?04:56
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lufisHow can I set the permissions of an entire drectory's contents? I right clicked on the directory through the gui and changed the permissions, but it only changes permissions of the directory instead of all of the files in the dir04:56
manuxsome one tested to upgrade from breezy to dapper dist?? is there a big difference between ???04:56
ketsugichmod -r I think04:56
megaman123Im still installing04:56
_jasonlufis, ketsugi: chmod -R04:57
linux_galoreCuriousCat: most laptops use software based devices to save money, down side is there OS specific04:57
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ketsugiwell04:57
lufis_Jason, thank you muchly!04:57
ketsugichmod --help usually tells me what I need to know ;p04:57
siccnessI appreciate that too _jason :)04:57
_jasonlufis: be careful with that command, make sure you really want to give everything the same permissions04:57
lufis_jason: ok04:57
manuxsome one already upgrade from breezy to dapper??04:58
muepmegaman123, configuring repositories is almost the first thing to do after install04:58
muepmanux, many have04:58
megaman123ok04:58
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manuxi m running breezy .... is there a real difference between both dists04:58
manux?04:58
micktmsomeone uses a wireless network? How can I see tha available networks, and how to connect them?04:58
ketsugimanux: yup04:59
ketsugithere's a huge difference04:59
ketsugibut since it's already mid may, you might as well wait for the final release in June04:59
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muepa lot newer packages in dapper04:59
manuxwich is better do you think04:59
manux?04:59
linux_galoremanux: between breezy and ??04:59
manuxyes04:59
muepdapper is better for sure04:59
manuxi m not shure if i upgrade to it04:59
fdri need to write a program in lisp... can you please suggest me an editor for gnome that does auto indenting/syntax hilight for lisp? No, I don't like (x)emacs.... :-)04:59
siccnessI'm looking forward to Dapper.04:59
muepmanux, if not sure, wait04:59
manuxi found a tutorial http://www.macewan.org/2006/02/23/upgrading-breezy-to-dapper/04:59
samuliMy upgrade from breezy to dapper didn't went too well.05:00
HfuyI'm presuming playing back embedded quicktime 7 is a "forget about it" under Ubuntu05:00
linux_galoremanux:  dapper flight 6 works fine for me05:00
nnycircular dependency exiting on booting the kernel05:00
nnyanyone wanna decipher that?05:00
manuxbut i m not shure if it works whithout complication to upgrade to it05:00
muepthe upgrades to beta often don't go so well05:00
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siccnessI got an error like that before, nny..05:00
manuxi don t wan t to newly install my inux05:00
siccnessWere you trying to do anything with apt-get?05:00
muepbut a fresh install from a beta cd has beed reliable for me05:00
nnysiccness on dapper after package upgrade05:00
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samulimanux, best bet is not to upgrade then.05:00
siccnessHmm, not sure then.05:00
nnysiccness did apt-get upgrade, and apparently a apckage is not happy05:01
Kr0ntabubotu, tell Hfuy about restricted formats05:01
manuxyou think i should newly install every thing if ...05:01
linux_galoresamuli: happens, sometimes better to do a fresh install, thats why I always make a /home  partition so i can flush an install and do a fresh update but lose none of my users stuff05:01
siccnessnny, yeah thats where I got my error, it was because I had synaptic open at the same time.05:01
Kr0ntabah frick.. need to get that syntax down05:01
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Kr0ntabnvmd05:01
HfuyHnn. Now on trying to access the 2K box, it just circularly asks me for a password over and over again05:02
muepmanux, I think you could upgrade when dapper is ready05:02
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manuxisn't it  not totaly ready yet ?05:02
muepmanux, it's still beta05:02
manuxok05:02
linux_galoremanux: technically no, but it works05:02
manuxmaybe i wait05:02
CuriousCatlinux_galore, yeah. but then at least it isn't ac97. It's Conexant, which is why i'm wondering if this would work this time around05:03
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manuxthanks for help05:03
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muepI think the human icon theme in dapper used to have yellow/orange arrows for navigating in nautilus and epiphany... now they are gone :(05:03
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linux_galoreCuriousCat: connextant stuff is always a problem because they use software to hide the fact the chips are pretty crappy and cheap05:04
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mueptangerine theme still has yellow arrows... I wonder if they will return to human, too...05:04
HfuySo you're telling me that in these days when you can get an mp3 player in a box of cornflakes, there isn't one in Ubuntu05:04
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muepHfuy, there is05:04
siccnessHfuy: Licensing issues, i believe.05:04
HfuyThere's one in Windows05:04
muepHfuy, it is just not installed as default05:05
Hfuythere's one in [long list of OSs] 05:05
linux_galoreHfuy: not by default but if you run the easyubuntu script it will setup the stuff needed to play mp3's among other things05:05
nnyaiight... someone got enough skill in here to help with a kernel panic?05:05
HfuyMrrrnngh.05:05
muepHfuy, just install the codecs05:05
muepit's not that hard05:05
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linux_galoreHfuy: the mp3 media format is actually a licensed standard owned by Thomson05:05
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HfuyI know.05:05
_jasonubotu: tell Hfuy about mp305:05
HfuySo?05:05
HfuyLicence it05:05
muepHfuy, it's expensive05:05
muepwill you pay it for me?05:05
HfuyNot that expensive.05:05
_jasonHfuy: ubuntu is a free distribution, thus why it isn't included by default05:05
linux_galoreHfuy: you have to pay for it05:06
HfuyI would gladly pay for Ubuntu if it worked better.05:06
HfuySo there you go05:06
siccnessPfft...05:06
muepit works great, just needs a bit work05:06
_jasonHfuy: free not in the money sense05:06
linux_galoreHfuy: there is a Ubuntu thing for codecs were you can buy them05:06
YoussefAssadquestion, what repo is the linux-restricted-modules in? I need it for my atheros wireless chipset (madwifi)05:06
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muepthe best thing in ubuntu is freedom05:06
_jasonHfuy: install gstreamer0.8-mad as the page ubotu sent you to explains and you play mp3's05:06
HfuyI'm assuming quicktime is a no-no05:07
Kr0ntab~sigh~... it works fantastic.. you just need to know more about how things work before attempting them05:07
siccnessmuep: I think the community and support that you receive from Ubuntu enthusiasts is probably the best thing about it.05:07
linux_galoreHfuy: depends , I use openquicktime05:07
nnyso kernel panic, anyone?05:07
muepsiccness, they are important, too05:07
siccnessThere's like 10 forums just for Ubuntu alone, it's great :)05:07
_jasonHfuy: you can play quicktime... I like to use mplayer with w32codecs05:07
esjthat's part of the problem with the free over all.  I use mp3 because I can get cheap portable devices (i.e. under $100) to play music on.  I prefer ogg but that is partially supported on a limited number of expensive devices05:07
Kr0ntabwin32codecs... mplayer.. and mozilla-mplayer05:07
nnyok which one is for kernel panics?05:08
_jasonubotu: tell Hfuy about mplayer05:08
munzirYoussefAssad: isn't better to add universe and multiverse so you don't need to find which one?05:08
_jasonubotu: tell Hfuy about w32codecs05:08
Hfuymplayer we got05:08
Hfuybut it doesn't play embedded QT705:08
dlinny, be specific to get help, or get out of here05:08
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nnyuboto: show nny where the advanced ubuntu forums are05:08
Kr0ntabtats because you need w32codecs05:08
linux_galoreHfuy: complain to apple05:08
linux_galoreHfuy: apple hasnt released anything for Linux05:08
Kr0ntaband the appropriate plugin05:09
YoussefAssadmunzir: Hm, I think I do have (uni|multi)verse added, but I can't find the linux-restricted-modules packages in there...05:09
HfuyHow come they can't put it in the distribution, but I can download it for free?05:09
_jasonHfuy: !free05:09
_jason!free05:09
ubotuhmm... free is Free as in free software = free as in freedom. For more info visit:http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html05:09
muepHfuy, they have licenced it that way05:09
linux_galoreYoussefAssad: get the easyubuntu  script it does all that for you05:09
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nnydli ok "kernel panic: circular dependancy" after apt-get upgrade with dapperf light 305:10
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HfuyOdd thing: if I set a filetype (mp3) to play with VLC, it plays with VLC.05:10
Kr0ntabhaha ubotu rocks05:10
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YoussefAssadlinux_galore: will look into that. Thanks!05:10
HfuyBut if I try to play it over a samba share, it pops up in Totem.05:10
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linux_galoreYoussefAssad: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/05:11
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YoussefAssadlinux_galore: Thanks a mill :)05:11
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HfuyWhy would it handle a filetype differently depending on its source?05:11
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SonOfMoogyay, I made it! .. anybody home?05:13
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BockBilbohello again05:14
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munzirYoussefAssad: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-38605:15
munzir!repositories05:15
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource05:15
Falluccerhey05:15
FalluccerI was trying to install it and it came up with an error05:15
Falluccersomething with uncompressing05:16
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FalluccerERR 105:16
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sonaskshello, i wan to mae complete backup of my system, by sending all the durectories through scp to other machines, what directories should i exclude ??05:16
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siccnessHow odd, nautilus won't open :|05:16
pezhi fellow ubunters, i was wondering if its possible to record video streams to video files? i'm wanting to record streams of the apprentice (from the BBC UK web site) to mpg05:16
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SonOfMoogSounds like you might have a bad DVD, Falluccer - did you check it?05:17
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Hfuy"Element doesn't implement handling of this stream"05:18
Hfuy"Please file a bug"05:18
Hfuy...when playing DVD with VLC05:18
linux_galorepez: yeah mplayer can dump a stream to a file05:18
Falluccerno i didn't05:19
pezcan i do with Xine as i removed MPlayer as it plays my DVDs really jerky and choppy05:19
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Falluccerand its a cd05:19
micktmHi! where Can I find kwifi to install on my ubuntu?05:19
linux_galorepez: if you watching a stream via a browser the file will be cached in the browsers tmp folder05:19
johannesi'm trying to get gnomba working, but if i double click on a pc to see the shares it asks me for a username and password, but wen i try to login with anonymous or guest it doesnt work, a username which has a account on the windows pc doesnt work, too, any ideas?05:19
Falluccerare you shure its a bad cd05:19
SonOfMoogI think there is a boot option to check the files on the CD .. boot into the help menu and look for it ..05:20
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nnyhow do i exclude a package from aptitude or apt-get?05:20
nnyi am getting errors on gnome file roller shared dependency with gnome ico themes05:20
SonOfMoogNo - might also be a bad (dirty) drive .. if you have a disk cleaner, might be worthwhile to run it ..05:20
Falluccercould it be because I have a fat32 partition on my drive05:20
pezwhat's the address of my browser's (firefox) tmp folder?05:20
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FalluccerI just reformatted the hard drive05:21
SonOfMoogif that doesn't work, I suggest you re-download  and re-burn the ISO .. I'm in the middle of doing that myself with kubuntu05:21
linux_galorepez:  hmm not sure might be either under ~/./tmp  or ~/./mozilla/firefox/05:21
BockBilboany of you has managed to run sun's JMF  for JAVA on ubuntu?05:22
Falluccershould I not have a partition on my drive05:22
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siccnessHey guys, Nautilus is not opening (it attempts to but fails - no error msg), I also tried right mouse clicking the trash icon to empty it but it does not succeed. Any ideas?05:22
linux_galoreBockBilbo: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/05:22
fdri need to write a program in lisp... can you please suggest me an editor for gnome that does auto indenting/syntax hilight for lisp? No, I don't like (x)emacs.... :-)05:22
BockBilbolinux_galore, im talking about JMF, not java itself05:22
SonOfMoogI don't think that will make any difference, but I'm not expert on ubuntu05:22
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rynessheya... does wine work in ubuntu or is there something else to run windows apps?05:23
siccnessWINE works.05:23
rynessis there anything better?05:23
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SonOfMoognot open source05:23
C-O-L-TDo you know when comes Novell's famous Linux Desktop 10 out?05:23
rynessahh05:23
rynessthanks05:23
hybridryness: will you be gaming?05:24
HfuyVLC won't play DVDs.05:24
HfuyBut gxine will.05:24
HfuyDuh?05:24
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madmikeryness: there is also qemu05:24
rynesshybrid: i'm thinking about it... wanted to test it out.05:24
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Falluccerso you say check the files with the help before the installation05:24
SonOfMoogyes05:24
Falluccero05:24
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rynessmadmike, i'll checkout qemu thz05:25
rynessthx*05:25
hybridryness: well cadega is better for gaming, and it can be compiled from source for free05:25
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Trip348Hi, I'm a newb, wants to get started with ubuntu. Current setup is C: 10GB With XP and D: 70GB Stuff with 13GB available. Both are NTFS and the D drive have at least 7 GB of free unoccupied space at the very end of the drive. How do I go forward to install Ubuntu on a new partition?05:25
madmikeryness: qemu won't support 3d acceleration05:25
madmikeryness: go with wine first05:25
hybridTrip348: do you wish to dualboot?05:25
Dr_WillisTrip348,  you got 1 hard drive? or is D: its own hard drive?05:25
Trip348yesw05:25
Trip348One drive05:26
C-O-L-TDo you know when comes Novell's famous Linux Desktop 10 out?05:26
mustard_1Trip348 the 7GB free space is enough if you want05:26
Trip348Laptop with one 80GB05:26
Trip348god05:26
Trip348good05:26
Dr_Willis:)05:26
Dr_Willisi had a laptop with a uber-slow 100gb hd... once..05:26
Trip348Can the ubuntu install resize the D partition (NTFS)05:26
Dr_WillisTrip348,  it is wise to backup all imporntant stuff first.05:27
mustard_1Trip348 yeah if necessary05:27
Trip348It is, all my music docs and more is on the D drive05:27
mustard_1Trip348 it will want to break the 7gigs up into two partitions..05:27
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mustard_1Trip348 one partition for the system and one for a swap partition05:27
Trip348what does the swap do?05:28
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linux_galoreanyway time for bed05:28
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mustard_1Trip348 sort of like the swap file in windows, but a partition instead05:28
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pezthanks linux_galore05:28
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peznight05:28
Hfuyany ideas why VLC is failing to play DVDs05:28
Trip348mustard_1:  ok05:28
pezHfuy, how is it failing?05:29
thoreauputicHfuy: you installed libdvdcss2 ?05:29
Trip348mustard_1: Should be double the Ram size right?05:29
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rynessis it difficult to compile cadega from source (never compiled something)05:29
pezHfuy, blank screen? no sound?05:29
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HfuyHang on05:29
mustard_1Trip348 correct05:29
HfuyTesting05:29
mustard_1Trip348 but not strictly necessary05:29
SonOfMoogI'm in Ubuntu 5 live - and the only display resolution I have is 640 x 480 - I don't have this problem running Knoppix live .. any suggestions?05:30
mustard_1Trip348 if you have lots of RAM its unlikely to every get used much05:30
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Trip348Is it possible to use the NTFS partition for Read/write or should I, start calling friends to borrow an external drive to copy and make it a Fat partition in stead?05:30
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Hfuy"DVDread demuxer error: DVDread cannot open source"05:30
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ketsugiTrip: it's possible05:30
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Trip348mustard_1: 512MB05:30
Hfuymain input error: no suitable access module for DVD://05:30
ketsugisearch for "ntfs fuse" on the ubuntu wiki05:30
spaceyTrip348: i recommend the second option05:30
ketsugiI have read/write access on my ntfs partition now05:30
mjrTrip348, possible, but cumbersome. Recommend converting if you have the friends you were talking about. ;)05:31
mustard_1Trip348 linux won't be able to write to the ntfs partition..it will read it just fine05:31
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YoussefAssadbloody cool, this easyubuntu...05:31
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mustard_1ketsugi strictly speaking though its still experimental05:31
Trip348so it is possible, but cumbersome and not recomended while thinking of perfomance and me being a newb?05:31
mjrTrip348, especially the newb bit05:32
siccnessWoops, haha, accidently had mprime running twice for 48hrs05:32
siccnessgreat :|05:32
ketsugiperformance isn't really an issue unless you're gonna be using that partition a ot05:32
ketsugia lot05:32
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ketsugiin which case, go with FAT3205:32
Trip348I have all my music on it05:32
Trip348pretty much all my files05:32
pezHfuy, I had the same error but with Totem. Try installing gxine. Once installed it worked. It works better for as the DVD playback is not choppy nor jerky05:32
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mustard_1Trip348 I think the issue is going to be that you already have two primary partitions...and there is a limit of four primary partitions, so after ubuntu breaks the last free space into two more partitions you will be at your limit of primary partitions05:33
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mustard_1Trip348 a second hard drive or a bit of a rethink on how you are going to set up your drive in the future might be something to consider.  For now though you have enough space to try it out.05:34
Trip348mustard_1: The d drive is a logical wrapped in an extended partition05:34
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mustard_1Trip348 ah!  ok05:35
mustard_1Trip348 well thats pretty good then :D05:35
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SonOfMoogI'm in Ubuntu 5 live - and the only display resolution I have is 640 x 480 - I don't have this problem running Knoppix live .. any suggestions?05:35
mustard_1Trip348 ubuntu will automatically partition the free space for you with the installer05:36
Trip348okay05:36
mustard_1SonOfMoog you could get to a terminal prompt and reconfigure xorg.conf05:36
_jasonubotu: tell SonOfMoog about fixres05:36
SonOfMoogI'm listening ..05:36
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mustard_1SonOfMoog read the message from ubotu05:36
mustard_1SonOfMoog there should be a link to follow...05:37
Morbid_AngelNo way to watch DVDs under linux?05:37
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_jason!dvd05:37
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)05:37
mustard_1Morbid_Angel sure there is :)05:37
SkeletonixHow can I get Mac adress from my computer which is on windows Os?05:37
SonOfMooggot it, thanks - I'll be AFK for a bit05:37
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SkeletonixI need for magick packets05:37
Morbid_Angelok was following the ubuntuguide.org for dvd playback but the apt-get fails05:37
_jasonSkeletonix: you are on windows now?05:37
HfuyNo DVD in VLC then.05:37
mustard_1SonOfMoog k good luck05:37
HfuyHas anyone eve rgot it working?05:37
Skeletonixyes05:37
chaos_of_apocalycan someone tell me what program there is to make flash animations?05:37
_jason!ubuntuguide05:37
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.05:37
mustard_1Morbid_Angel the ubuntuguide is a bit dated now...its for Hoary Hedgehog 5.0405:38
Morbid_Angelok.  It was the highest google link though =)05:38
SkeletonixTerminal server client ;)05:38
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mustard_1Morbid_Angel try the wiki for more up to date stuff05:38
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_jasonSkeletonix: this isn't really a windows support channel but I believe you can run ipconfig, maybe ipconfig /a ro whatever the switch is05:38
Trip348mustard_1: Thanks for the help, I'll go looking for an external drive to borrow now then.05:38
_jasonSkeletonix: s/ro/or05:38
mustard_1Trip348 k05:39
Hfuyhow do I remove a symlink05:39
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Skeletonix_jason: ?05:39
_jasonHfuy: rm05:39
_jasonSkeletonix: ?05:39
Skeletonix_jason:   s/ro/or05:40
chaos_of_apocalycan someone tell me what program there is to make flash animations?05:40
_jasonSkeletonix: oh it means subsitute ro with or, since I made a typo05:40
Skeletonixif i try ipconfig /all there is a lot of adress ..and which is MAC:)05:40
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Hfuywhy is the way VLC plays DVDs different to the way xine does it?05:40
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hybridHfuy: they are different programs05:41
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_jasonSkeletonix: physical address05:41
HfuyYou'd have assumed there'd be a standard method for, you know, reading filesystems...05:41
Morbid_AngelHWaddr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx is the MAC from ifconfig05:41
hybridHfuy: it isnt reading a filesystem it is reading an image05:41
linxehhi there, I'm having some problems upgrading firefox with synaptic / apt-get - I'm getting errors such as "cp: cannot overwrite non-directory `/usr/lib/firefox/././res' with directory `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/./res'" - is there any way to fix that ?05:41
Skeletonixyes but there is HW adres for NIC,DNS...05:41
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chaos_of_apocalycan someone tell me what program there is to make flash animations?05:42
chaos_of_apocalyin linux05:42
hybridHfuy: if everything was made the same there would be ni reason for linux05:43
megaman123how do you run something using root while being another user05:43
mustard_1chaos_of_apocaly I don't know whether there is much in the way of flash authoring software iinux05:43
_jasonubotu: tell megaman123 about sudo05:43
linxehchaos_of_apocaly, : you can use FlashMX in WINE05:43
Abountumegaman124: try sudo05:43
chaos_of_apocalyi dont understand wine05:43
HfuyHas anyone here got VLC to play DVDs?05:43
linxehchaos_of_apocaly: crossover office makes wine easy - might be worth a look05:43
rynesswhen is Dapper supposed to be production read?05:43
megaman123thanks :) sorry but very new here05:44
chaos_of_apocalycroosover?is it in synaptic?05:44
linxehno. it is commerical software.05:44
linxehwww.codeweavers.com05:44
Abountuno worries.. I'm new too ;-)05:44
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berciolhi :)05:44
muepryness, first of june05:44
chaos_of_apocalycommercial=pay05:44
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Morbid_AngelI use Crossover from Codeweavers.  It's worth the cost05:44
linxehchaos_of_apocaly: Flash is commercial software.05:44
muepHfuy, i've used totem05:45
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linxehchaos_of_apocaly: if you want to author proprietry, platform dependent media formats on the web (such as shockwave and flash) you are likely going to have to pay for them. FlashMX is going to set you back a *lot* anyway, so why worry about a few bucks on crossover office?05:45
Hfuygxine works05:45
Hfuybut I prefer VLC05:45
linxehwhat an idiot :/05:45
HfuyIt's giving an arcane error message05:45
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snakelshola05:46
linxehI'm having some problems upgrading firefox with synaptic / apt-get - I'm getting errors such as "cp: cannot overwrite non-directory `/usr/lib/firefox/././res' with directory `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/./res'" - is there any way to fix that ?05:46
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mueptotem has worked well for me, dunno about vlc though, sorry :(05:46
HfuyVLC offers the option, but fails with "dvdread demuxer error: DVDread cannot open source"05:46
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b4shyo05:47
Hfuy"main input error: no suitable access module for DVD://"05:47
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we3zahello05:47
we3zahow ar e you guys05:47
we3za?05:47
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we3zai am newbie in linux05:48
_jasonwe3za: hello05:48
we3zai would like to update my kernel05:48
_jasonlinxeh: can you pastebin the whole output and the command you are using please?05:48
linxehsudo apt-get install linux-image-i68605:48
linxeh_jason: ok05:48
we3zathanl you05:48
HfuyGurhn, this samba howto is nuts - it doesn't match my smb.conf#05:48
muepwe3za, that only installs an optimized kernel for you05:49
muepwe3za, why updating?05:49
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we3zait said it couldnt find the package05:49
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iratsuhow well does ubuntu run on the mac mini?05:49
we3zabecause i read in the article that there is some flaw inside the current kernel05:49
muepwe3za, which version uf ubuntu are you running?05:49
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Morbid_AngelHow can you tell which "version" of ubuntu is installed?05:49
linxeh_jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1391305:49
we3za5.1005:50
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muepwe3za, ubuntu has security updates added05:50
we3zathanks jason05:50
_jasonMorbid_Angel: lsb_release -a05:50
Morbid_Angelah thankies.05:50
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AbountuI have some difficulties accessing /sdb1, I tried chmod 777, it's giving me the error : " chmod: changing permissions of `sdb1': Read-only file system05:50
Abountu"05:50
simp!gui05:50
ubotusimp: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:50
linxeh_jason: I just let the automatic package updater run, and it failed on firefox telling me to run "sudo apt-get -f install", which give me similar errors05:50
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Abountuhow can I get read write access to ntfs disks?05:50
brandonAbountu: is that a usb key?05:50
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_jasonlinxeh: you're using dapper?05:50
muepwe3za, you most probably don't need to worry, just install the updates as usual05:50
linxehAbountu: with difficutly05:50
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we3zaso can i just do sudo apt-get update05:50
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muepyes05:51
linxeh_jason: yes - this box was installed from flight6 CD, and upgraded05:51
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Abountuis a hard disk connected through ide/usb adapter05:51
_jasonlinxeh: k, let's continue in #ubuntu+1 though since that's the dapper channel05:51
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linxehah sorry05:51
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drcodehi all05:51
brandonAbountu: and it's an ntfs hdd?05:51
Abountuyes05:51
linxehwrite access to NTFS is still dodgy05:52
drcodeany one mybe know software that can mount drive of ssh?05:52
Abountu(or fat .. not sure)05:52
brandonAbountu: you're SOL05:52
drcodein linux/windows?05:52
linxehyou can do it, but its dangerous05:52
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Morbid_AngelBest not to write to ntfs partitions ...05:52
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linxehthere is a driver somewhere I saw that uses the Microsoft ntfs driver from winxp, which might help maybe05:52
brandonAbountu: you can read/write fat32, but not ntfs05:52
linxehbrandon: you can write ntfs, but its dangerous05:52
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brandonlinxeh: i know. it would be irresponsible of any of us to recommend it05:53
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linxeh:)05:53
Abountuok I'm doing chmod 555 and still it's givign the same error05:53
Abountuchmod: changing permissions of `sdb1': Read-only file system05:53
brandonAboutnu: it's mounted as read-only05:53
drcodeI prefer ssh05:53
drcodeits faster05:53
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linxehAbountu: even if chmod would remount the filesystem, 555 would be read only for everyone05:54
Abountuin fstab it is mounted this way05:54
Abountuhmod: changing permissions of `sdb1': Read-only file system05:54
Abountusorry05:54
brandonAbountu: try the command "sudo fdisk -l" that will give you a list of filesystems and their type05:54
Abountu/dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     ntfs    defaults        0       005:54
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ikeCan anyone tell me if Drake going to have suspend support?05:55
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ketsugiDapper does have suspend support05:56
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zenwhenindeed05:56
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ketsugiI've just gotten suspend working on my laptop today05:56
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ikeGreat, thanks for the info.05:56
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anzio_hey guys, I just installed the DivX codec for Linux and can't find the DivX player nor play an avi in Totem05:57
anzio_can anyone help me out?05:57
anzio_!divx05:57
uboturumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats05:57
siccnessVLC05:57
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brandonanzio_ what *sigh* engine are you using?05:57
anzio_brandon total dumb noob here, by engine you mean version of Ubuntu?05:58
zenwhenhey brandon why are you being so rude about helping someone05:58
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zenwhenanzio_: you need to install totem-xine05:58
anzio_ah thx05:58
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zenwhensudo apt-get install totem-xine05:58
anzio_big time thanks05:58
zenwhenno problem05:59
CuriousCatif i'm to enable smp, this is what i'm supposed to get, right? ==> linux-686-smp05:59
brandonzenwhen: it's not rudeness. it's exasperation with the whole "restricted formats" garbage05:59
samuliwhy does ubuntu ship with gstreamer.05:59
Morbid_AngelI'm also working from the RestrictedFormats but getting errors that the packages can't be found05:59
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zenwhenI am enjoying the same application now. Ill be happy to know that you can do the same.05:59
samulixine is better in just about everything.05:59
Morbid_Angeleven after enabling the other repositories05:59
Rommeubuntu is great05:59
mustard_1Morbid_Angel have you enabled universe and multiverse repos?05:59
Morbid_Angelyep05:59
mustard_1Morbid_Angel k05:59
Morbid_Angeland did apt-get update05:59
mustard_1Morbid_Angel did you sudo apt-get update after enabling?05:59
mustard_1hehe06:00
mustard_1k06:00
siccnesslol06:00
Morbid_AngelNot a total noob ;)06:00
JinRohHello, Anyone with AMD64 has FIrefox with GPL Flash (or something like gpl flash) working? I don't want to have a chroot :/06:00
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mustard_1what packages are coming up missing?06:00
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Abountuwhat should I do, if I can't hear sounds in  mpg and avi files, I can see movie though...06:00
Morbid_AngelE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg06:00
_jasonMorbid_Angel: are you using dapper?06:00
Morbid_Angeland also gstreamer0.10-gl06:01
Morbid_Angelno still on breezy06:01
samuli:06:01
_jasonMorbid_Angel: gstreamer0.10 is only on dapper06:01
Morbid_Angellol06:01
Morbid_AngelYa know I just reread that06:01
samuliyou need 0.8 libraries.06:01
brandonAbountu: what are you using to play the files?06:01
mustard_1heh06:01
kubusgstreamer0.8 is for breezy06:01
Morbid_AngelOk back to total noob status06:01
mustard_1breezy doesnt use that version of gstreamer06:01
siccnesslol06:01
Morbid_Angelyeah pasted the wrong line06:01
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_jasonheh06:01
mustard_1:)06:01
Morbid_Angelsomeone smack me ... it's still early06:02
HfuyI'm going to assume that the idea of making this laptop hibernate and resume under Ubuntu is "Haaa, ha ha ha!"06:02
claymore666hey all, i see that there is quake II for linux on this webpage, http://www.icculus.org/quake2/#download but what style/ type do i download for ubuntu ? :(06:02
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Morbid_Angelbad enough it took me 3 months to get my wireless working06:02
mustard_1Hfuy potentially :)06:02
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sstchuranyone know if network-admin is available in xfcx/xubuntu?  I can't seem to get my wireless card going in xubuntu06:03
|Sivik|sstchur: what card is it06:03
mustard_1sstchur I believe its going to be added to xubuntu before release date for dapper06:03
|Sivik|sstchur: try wifi-radar06:03
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hohgchanyone here using ubunutu server for freeRADIUS?06:03
mustard_1sstchur so the scuttlebut goes anyway06:03
sstchurSivik:  It's a Dlink -- i'm using it now under ubuntu w/ gnome -- just can't get it working in xfce06:04
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Abountubrandon .. thanks .. i found it.. more codecs where missing06:04
HfuyGah.06:04
MetaMorfoziShey! i has a problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13914 this is when i start firefox from cmdline, it starts up and works fine, but often crashes - that why i tried to start from cmdline06:04
|Sivik|sstchur: network-admin seems to freeze alot in dapper06:04
kubusclaymore666, look for "quake2" an "quake2-data" in the repos, i have not try this06:04
HfuyWhy does it use a different tool to open files over a network as it does to open them locally?06:04
Abountu(I'm using totem)06:04
brandonyeah no kidding06:04
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brandonthe "extra-codecs" package right?06:04
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kubusclaymore666, but it sounds good..06:04
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brandonit should be listed as a dependency of totem-xine06:05
sstchur|Sivik|, Well network-admin seems to do the trick well for my card under gnome, is there a way I can see the conf files it's generating and then copy them for use with xfce?  I assume it's just configuring wpa_supplicant or something?06:05
claymore666thankyou kubus :)06:05
claymore666where exactly do i look? im fairly new to ubuntu06:05
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HfuyWhen I open media files such as AVI and MP3 over a samba share, Ubuntu always uses Totem to open them - and totem sucks.06:05
kubusclaymore666, mom06:06
HfuyIf I try to open the same files from a local hard disk, it uses VLC, which is what I told it to use.06:06
HfuyWhat's going on?06:06
Larsson-SwedenI need some help. I want to use the xv driver in mplayer, but that driver isnt on the list. I can use it in totem and xine, but not in mplayer.06:06
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claymore666mom?? :S06:06
mustard_1Hfuy can you not right click on the file and choose which app to open them with?06:06
kubusclaymore666, enable Multiverse Repositories, then you open synaptic and search for it06:06
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_jasonLarsson-Sweden: are you using mplayer from the repositories?06:06
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Hfuymustard_1: I have done that06:07
HfuyStill it uses Totem06:07
claymore666kk06:07
HfuyI wouldn't mind if Totem wasn't the can't-do player06:07
Larsson-Sweden_jason, no, it was compiled.06:07
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kubusclaymore666, oh sorry, it is a geram shortcut for wait a moment *g*06:07
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kubusclaymore666, german i mean06:07
_jasonLarsson-Sweden: that's why06:07
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Morbid_AngelYay I can view media again =)06:07
mustard_1Hfuy maybe you could report it as a bug06:07
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Larsson-Sweden_jason, fact is, i have a compiled mplayer, but i have also installed the on in the reps to get the mplayer-plugin.06:07
HfuyLike they give a damn.06:07
sstchur|Sivik|, The thing about wifi-radar.... is xfce, my ath0 dev is not even active I don't think.  With network admin, I just activate it, choose my SSID and my key and I'm good to go -- I just want to somehow dupliate that process in XFCE06:08
mustard_1Hfuy I'm sure they do06:08
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Sti1Use Slackware!!!06:08
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KaosXmmmk06:08
_jasonLarsson-Sweden: you were probably missing some dependencies to get xv output in mplayer, may want to find out what depend you need and recompile06:08
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KaosXwhy not just apt-get install mplayer?06:09
HfuyThey don't give a damn that Toshiba laptops won't hibernate06:09
_jasonyes, or that06:09
Larsson-Sweden_jason,  you know what? I have double mplayer installations. Tried the mplayer binary in /usr/bin and that one has the xv driver! :)06:09
Hfuywhich is a huge, gigantic, major issue06:09
JinRohHello, Anyone with AMD64 has FIrefox with GPL Flash (or something like gpl flash) working? I don't want to have a chroot :/06:09
Hfuythey're hardly likely to care I can't play some MP3s :)06:09
Larsson-Sweden_jason, i want the command "mplayer" to link to the /usr/bin/mplayer , how can i change that?06:09
anzio_after installing totem-xine I cann't get totem to run, should I be running something besdies totem now?06:09
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Morbid_AngelNow to test DVDs ...06:10
KaosXlarsson: alias mplayer=' /usr/bin/mplayer'06:10
mustard_1Hfuy Totem opening when you choose a totally different application is something they might care about06:10
_jasonLarsson-Sweden: your path probably list /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin so your computer is looking there first.  Is there any reason you want your compiled version now?06:10
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francesco_#ita06:10
_jasonubotu: tell Hfuy about multimedia06:10
mustard_1Hfuy have you installed totem-xine?06:11
Larsson-Sweden_jason, how can i see wich binary the command "mplayer" links to?06:11
HfuyI have gxine06:11
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_jasonLarsson-Sweden: which mplayer06:11
anzio_whats the terminal command for totem-xine? is it just old 'totem'?06:11
KaosXLarsson-Sweden go into terminal and run the alias command, itll overide whatever it is currently06:11
Morbid_AngelYay DVDS!06:12
Larsson-Sweden_jason, ok thanks! So the crappy installation of mplayer is in /usr/local/bin , and the good one in /usr/bin ,06:12
mustard_1Hfuy totem-xine plays everything well on my system..bit cpu hungry..but everything works06:12
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AbountuDoes any one know how we configure Gaim to get it to show smileys?06:12
Larsson-Sweden_jason, how to link the command mplayer to /usr/bin/mplayer ?06:12
Hfuywhat is totem-gxine?06:12
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HfuyI just have gxine, which seems widely compatible, without any connection to Totem06:13
anzio_mustard: whats the terminal command to get into totem-xine?06:13
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KaosXLarsson-Sweden: alias mplayer=' /usr/bin/mplayer'06:13
mustard_1anzio_ I think its just totem06:13
_jasonLarsson-Sweden: seems that way.  I would just remove the local installation you have, but you can alias it as KaosX suggests for a quick fix06:13
anzio_blah :(06:13
anzio_totems not working for me anymore06:13
anzio_it runs for a second or two then closes06:13
kubusanzio_, sudo apt-get install totem-xine06:13
Morbid_AngelI just got totem working myself06:13
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anzio_thx, jason directed me to it a bit ago06:14
anzio_installed it06:14
duraOr mplayer06:14
KaosXyou can also whereis totem to see if it's already in your machine06:14
Larsson-SwedenThanks!06:14
KaosXits most likely in /usr/bin06:14
duraor which totem06:15
anzio_when Totem-xine was installing I noticed something said "may cause problems, deleting anyway as per your request"06:15
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anzio_thinking that might be it06:15
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_jasonanzio_: can you paste all the output onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a link?06:15
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Thug-N-Medoes anyone know how to burn  5 cds iso`s to dvd ?06:15
Morbid_AngelThanks guys you've bene a great help!06:15
mustard_1anzio_ have you done anything unusual with your totem install previously?06:15
mustard_1Morbid_Angel np06:16
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Abountuwhat does it mean when apt-get says "E: Couldn't find package w32codecs"06:18
_jasonAbountu: it means exactly what it says really :)  w32codecs isn't in the repositories06:18
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_jasonubotu: tell Abountu about w32codecs06:18
high-freqcan someone help me out with this pcmcia card.....lspci isn't listing it and i dunno how to make it  show up06:19
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high-freqmy kernel is 2.6.15-22-k706:20
tonygeorgehi  i have ran an update on my ubuntu breezy and now I cannot use X windows. anyone knows if it is possible to roll back an update?06:20
rambo3i bet you didnt start with mcmcia module06:20
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high-freqtonygeorge: sometimes u need to rerun the  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:20
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tonygeorgeok. i will try.06:21
high-freqrambo3: it does say somethin bout pcmcia on bootup06:21
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tonygeorgehigh-freq, thank you. if it doesnt work, can i still roll back ?06:21
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high-freqnot too sure on rolling back06:21
rambo3high-freq: i would search ubuntu forums for answer06:22
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high-freqrambo3: k06:22
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rambo3tonygeorge:  roll back is just copy old xorg.conf as new06:22
Calgarhi, im new to linux (only just installed this hour) my package manager isnt working (saying it cant connect to server) is the server down, or am i doing somthing wrong?06:23
tonygeorgerambo3, but i didn't take a back up copy of it before running the update.06:23
CuriousCatwould anyone know what in ubuntu i could use to lower the CPU speed?06:24
duracpufreq06:24
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duraCuriousCat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MataroSessionsWorkshops/CPUFreqModuleLoading?highlight=%28cpufreq%2906:24
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beruicI have just formatted an etx3 partition and mounted it. Why does it say that there's half a gig used space when the damn thing is empty?06:27
CuriousCatdura, ah! thank you. :)06:27
pall2 Hi There,06:27
pall2How can I interact with the system when starting - i.e. choose which06:27
pall2init.dscript to start or not.06:27
pall2I put my own script into rc2.d, the system halts at my script when starting.06:27
pall2I cannot login =(06:27
pall2I also post my script below: ( it works before I put it into rc2.d)06:27
pall2> /etc/rs2.d/S99myownscript06:27
pall2#!/bin/sh06:27
pall2SCRIPT=/myownscript06:27
pall2[ -f $SCRIPT ]  && python $SCRIPT06:27
pall2> the python SCRIPT06:27
pall2#!/bin/env python06:27
pall2import os06:27
beruicNOT SO MANY LINES!!!06:27
pall2a = os.popen('iwlist ath0 scan').readlines()06:27
duraCuriousCat, yw06:27
pall2...06:27
pall2...06:27
pall2END06:27
pall2The error message is 'ath0 doesnt not support scan, network is down' =(06:27
chamohello06:27
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durapall2, use pastebin ffs06:27
pall2dura: what's that06:28
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Hexaflouride...06:28
durapall2, It's a site where you can post stuff06:28
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pall2 How can I interact with the system when starting - i.e. choose which06:28
pall2init.dscript to start or not.06:28
pall2I put my own script into rc2.d, the system halts at my script when starting.06:28
pall2I cannot login =(06:28
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CuriousCat!paste06:28
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL06:28
duraSo remove the script06:28
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duraboot into the system and fix it06:28
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pall2i'm askin questions06:28
pall2i cannot boot into the system06:28
komputerhej06:29
beruichej hej06:29
duraBoot a livecd and edit it06:29
high-freqlisten up .....use that pastebin if your gonna paste more than 3 lines06:29
komputerco to jest??06:29
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high-freqsimple as that06:29
rambo3tonygeorge: ues whenever there is change of xorg buy ubuntu it makes a copy of config06:29
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beruicI have just formatted an etx3 partition and mounted it. Why does it say that there's half a gig used space when the damn thing is empty?06:29
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dman_im stuck with a (probably silly) mount question. i cant seem to be able to create any directories in a root mounted drive06:30
duraWhat kind of drive is it?06:30
duraIs it mounted read only?06:30
tonygeorgerambo3: i see. thank you very much. Hope this will work. :-)06:30
beruicdman_: Are you logged in as root?06:30
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high-freqdman_: not even  sudo mkdir name_of_dir06:30
rambo3just list in /etc/X11/ and i think it makes a date time stampe on backup configs06:31
pall2In Madriva, you can press 'I' to interact with system when starting, choose yes|no for each init.d06:31
Calgarhi, im new to linux, when i start the package manager, i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13915 how do i fix it please?06:31
pall2i wonder whether i can do the same thing in Ubuntu06:31
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duraCalgar, That means that the repository doesn't have what apt is looking for.06:32
dman_beruic, only as root can i write files on the mount06:32
duraChange to different repositories06:32
BockBilboepas06:32
BockBilbohey06:32
Calgardura: how do i do that?06:32
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duraCalgar, edit /etc/apt/sources/list06:33
dman_i want to write the files as a normal user high-freq,beruic06:33
rambo3!tell Calgar about repos06:33
beruicCalgar: Try hitting in some /'s instead of whitespecas after the domain name...06:33
Calgardura: O_O06:33
high-freqdman_: ya create the dir with sudo...then chmod it or chown it06:33
beruicdman_: Log in as root and change the permissions06:33
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rambo3!tell Calgar about easysource06:33
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siccnesshigh-freq: what would you say is more secure, chmod or chown? or no diff?06:34
Calgari clicked that link and got Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/www.ubuntulinux.nl/public_html/content/php/source-o-matic.php on line 20606:34
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durasiccness, They both do different things06:34
durasiccness, man chmod   and   man chown   to learn how to use them06:34
hyphenatedsiccness: the correct combination of those two is necessary to prevent the wrong person accessing files/directories06:35
durachown shanges ownership... chmod shanges permissions06:35
dman_beruic, high-freq, ok the directory has been created by a  normal user, then after mounting the drive on it, the directory show root,root as user,group06:35
durachanges06:35
siccnessyea i know how to use them06:35
siccnessok thanks06:35
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duraIf you knew how to use them you wouldn't has asked which is 'more secure'.06:35
duraBeing they both do different things.06:35
Larsson-Sweden_jason, must i be root for the alias command to take effect?06:35
high-freqsiccness: both are just changing permissions of the drive..either be it changing dif ownerships or changing read/write/global modes06:36
samulito me it seems that chown is more secure.06:36
beruicI have just formatted a HD into one etx3 partition and mounted it. Why does it say that there's half a gb used space when the damn thing is empty and nothing shows up in the file manager (even with hidden files on)?06:36
siccnessthanks samuli.06:36
durachown changes ownership not permissions06:36
hyphenatedpeople ask the "more secure" question to all sorts of silly things. at least this time it was something that loosely involved security ;-)06:36
tonygeorgeon my system /dev/hdb9 is my ubuntu installation, is it possible to get a list of hard disk partitions on my computer? or I have to try to mount all of them and write down the valid ones?06:36
duratrue06:36
beruicdman_: np06:36
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samuliyeah, and when you're the owner you can set strict permissions for everyone else.06:36
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duratonygeorge, Do you want to see mounted partitions or all partitions?06:36
tonygeorgedura, all partitions.06:37
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samuliinstead of making it availabe for everybody to mess around.06:37
duratonygeorge, fdisk/dev/hdb06:37
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hyphenatedtonygeorge: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda should list them all. or cat /proc/partitions06:37
durathen typ ep06:37
duraerr type p06:37
tonygeorge.06:37
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beruicWhy doesn't anyone care to help me?06:37
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duraBerge, I didn't see your question...06:38
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tonygeorgedura and hyphenated thank you very much. you mean /proc/partitions will have all the partitions on my computer including windows partitions?06:38
hyphenatedtonygeorge: yeah, but the output of fdisk -l is more readable06:38
tonygeorgehyphenated, ok06:39
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bluszcz_hi06:39
goldenratiohi06:39
McNutellahow do I have the bluetooth become detectable?06:39
_jasonLarsson-Sweden: well the alias command only works for the user you set the alias for.  Removing your local copy is a better option imo06:39
bluszcz_what are sources.list for security?06:39
hyphenatedberuic: put the output of 'df' and 'df -i' in a pastebin06:39
bluszcz_can anyone paste me?06:39
bluszcz_deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted06:39
bluszcz_this one doesn't work06:39
bluszcz_can anyone paste me grep security /etc/apt/sources.list06:40
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hyphenatedbluszcz_: that's what mine says and it works fine for me06:40
goldenratiogoogle it?06:40
durabluszcz_, hybrid is trying to help you...06:40
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bluszcz_hybrid: ?06:40
goldenratiohybrid horse?06:40
hyphenateddura: tab completion failed on both names there? :-)06:40
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duraboth?06:41
McNutellaseems xp cant detect the bluetooth on ubuntu06:41
duraNo I didn't press tab after I type hy heh06:41
goldenratioo.o06:41
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Abountunow this is annoying me since sometime now: I'm trying to download skype, http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb and I'm getting an error : Xml parsing error: not well-formed ...06:42
duraAbountu, Can't just apt-get install skype ?06:42
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Abountulet me try06:42
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hybridssup?06:43
Abountusudo apt-get install skype ??06:43
AbountuE: Couldn't find package skype06:43
Abountu??06:43
Abountuhow can I fix that?06:43
duraAbountu, Try sudo apt-cache search skype06:43
rambo3before you ask here type skype in ubuntu wiki06:43
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McNutellasomeone help me create a bluetooth PAN between ubuntu and XP please?06:43
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beruicdman_: Change the permissions for the mount06:43
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durawell.... lunchtime... bbiab06:44
hyphenatedAbountu: I just clicked that link and it tried to download the .deb for me06:44
AbountuI tried "sudo apt-get install skype" no return?!06:44
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beruichyphenated: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1391606:44
hyphenatedAbountu: try using wget to download it instead. wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb06:44
Abountuhphenated? what does that mean? something wrong with my firefox?06:44
beruicdman_: Did it work?06:44
Abountuok let me see06:44
hyphenatedAbountu: *shrug* possibly06:45
hyphenatedberuic: and which one are you complaining about?06:45
hyphenated(which partition)06:45
Abountuwhat does *shrug* mean?06:45
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Abountuwget did " http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb"06:46
Abountuand then06:46
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AbountuConnecting to www.skype.com|1.0.0.0|:80.06:46
Abountu...06:46
Abountuand still waiting06:46
Abountuis it downloading?06:46
hyphenatedthat's a bit screwed06:46
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Abountummm06:46
Abountuwhat does it mean?06:47
josehola06:47
beruichyphenated: HDC. When I look at it in Gparted, disk management or the file manager, it's only 5.5 gb, it should be 6.0406:47
dman_no beruic, i cant write as a normal user, only with root priv06:47
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aLPHa_LeaKAbountu, its basically saying that its trying to download from the local host06:47
Abountulocal host?"06:47
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Abountuwhy?06:48
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beruicdman_: Try loading som files and dirs to the thing and change permissions for them...06:48
aLPHa_LeaKAbountu, maybe your dns server is screwed06:48
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Abountubut I can connect to othe pages!06:48
Abountuin fact I could connect to skype as well06:48
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Abountuand wget  succeeded resolving www.skype.com06:49
Abountuit's on ly the download06:49
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spazzzHello is anyone here framiliar with Firestarter?06:50
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spazzzI need some help with Firestarter.  It's being a little more verbose than I'd like I was wondering if someone could help me06:51
beruichyphenated: HDC. You found out something?06:52
hyphenatedberuic: not yet06:52
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sstchurdoes anyone know what conf file the gnome network-admin GUI writes to underneath the hood?  It would be very helpful if I could look at it06:53
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rob_psstchur:  Probably /etc/network/interfaces06:54
hyphenatedberuic: can you put the output of 'tune2fs -l /dev/hdc1' in a pastebin?06:54
beruichyphenated: 2 secs06:55
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beruichyphenated: You mean 'sudo tune2fs -l /dev/hdc1'?06:55
hyphenatedI didn't need to use sudo06:56
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beruichyphenated: I did... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1391706:57
sstchurrob_p, thanks.... and do you know... if I were to copy that file into xubuntu, would that get my wireless working as it does under gnome?06:57
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BockBilbowhats better, vnc or xdmcp?06:58
beruichyphenated: Without sudo it says: Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock06:58
hybridBockBilbo: vnc is more readily avaliable06:58
BockBilbowhat do you mean by that?06:58
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beruichyphenated: ... and before that: Acces denied...06:58
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hyphenatedberuic: your user isn't in the 'disk' or 'admin' groups, I'm guessing06:59
hybridBockBilbo: there are alot more VNC servers and clients06:59
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BockBilbooks06:59
BockBilbothanks06:59
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hybridno problem06:59
beruichyphenated: is that also what causes the half ghost gb?07:00
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hyphenatednope07:00
rob_psstchur:  Is your xubuntu install separate from your regular ubuntu install?  I'm not very familliar with xubuntu.  I'm assuming it's just ubuntu with another window manager or something?  Anyway, if it's one and the same install, you shouldn't have to change anything.07:00
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brunoCan someone tell me how to update my firefox 1.0.8 to 1.5?07:01
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metatagbruno : download firefox 1.5 for linux07:02
Kr0ntab!Firefox1.507:02
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:02
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McNutellametatag: not much help eh LOL07:02
_jasonbruno: if you wait 2 weeks you will be able to upgrade to dapper and use the package manager07:02
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LueindenDapper comes out in two weeks?07:03
hyphenatedsupposed to be released on 1 June07:03
metatagbruno : I belive you better update now. There were a number of vulnerabilities on 1.007:03
McNutellawhats special about the dapper ?07:03
hyphenatedor something.07:03
hyphenatedMcNutella: it's the next release07:03
ajo!kubuntu07:03
ubotu[kubuntu]  Ubuntu+KDE  ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/07:03
McNutellahyphenated: I know its the next one, but whats special about it ?07:04
Tinned_Tunahmm07:04
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BockBilbometatag, he doesnt need to update, he already must have the security fixes on it07:04
Tinned_TunaI might write a script to do that update to FF1.5 thingy07:04
hyphenatedMcNutella: it's new and shiny? it's got more recent versions of all the packages?07:04
hyphenatedI'm not really sure what answer you want :-)07:05
metatagbruno : http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.3&os=linux&lang=en-US07:05
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McNutellahyphenated: oh then if its all shiny, we must wait.. im all excited at the thought ; )07:05
McNutellametatag: and for people that dont know how to use .deb ?tar.gz archives?07:06
hyphenatedberuic: I'm all out of ideas about where it's gone. it is probably just filesystem overhead07:06
gnomefreak!ff1.507:06
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:06
beruicIs it there when you make one too?07:06
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gnomefreak^^^gives you commands to run07:06
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LueindenMaybe when I upgrade to Dapper, I won't have to have 112 MB of updates to do on a 56k.07:06
Lueinden:)07:06
chaos_of_apocalywhere is the kernel?07:06
metatagMcNutella : tar -xzf <file>.tar.gz07:06
chaos_of_apocalysource07:06
gnomefreakmetatag: not for ff1.5 on breezy i wouldnt use that07:07
hyphenatedLueinden: on release day, probably not. maybe the day after tho ;-)07:07
McNutellametatag: yeah, and then to install it/compile it.. some users might not have a clue07:07
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Lueinden:/07:07
LueindenAwwww..07:07
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metatagMcNutella : no need to compile firefox , it installs rightaway07:07
LueindenI downloaded Ubuntu on a friend's cable modem.07:07
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beruichyphenated: Is it there when you make one too?07:08
McNutellametatag: so you untar it, and it does it all for you ?07:08
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gnomefreakMcNutella: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion   run the commands as shown07:08
chaos_of_apocalywhere is the kernel source?07:08
Calgarhi, could somone help, i seem to be unable to activate the "universe" or the "multiverse" in package manager, it just takes ages trying to download the repository updates and then says it cant connect to the repository, could somone help me please?07:08
metatagMcNutella: no u have to cd in the directory created07:08
hyphenatedberuic: the raw partition is 6.02GB. once you add a filesystem to it, it takes some of that space for its own internal purposes07:08
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McNutellagnomefreak: im just interested in how that may work, ive already installed it using that page..07:08
chaos_of_apocalywhere is the kernel source?07:08
metatagMcNutella: and run ./firefox-install07:09
OldAnyone know how to give the user "old" access to /var/www, full access in that dir? A ftp account07:09
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beruichyphenated: yeah, but 500 mb?07:09
metatagMcNutella: sudo ./firefox-install07:09
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chaos_of_apocalycan anyone tell me where is the kernel source???????????????07:09
hybridchaos_of_apocaly: there is no "THE" kernel07:10
Calgarwww.linux.org ......07:10
chaos_of_apocalywhat then?07:10
hybridchaos_of_apocaly: there are many many kernels out there with many many uses07:10
OldAnyone know how to give the user "old" access to /var/www, full access in that dir? A ftp account07:10
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chaos_of_apocalyalright,but where,the main ones?07:10
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hybridchaos_of_apocaly: main for what?07:10
chaos_of_apocalywhere are the sources07:11
chaos_of_apocalyof the system?07:11
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hybridchaos_of_apocaly: the linux kernel runs on Tivo, on computers, on Palms07:11
hybridchaos_of_apocaly: for computers look at kernel.org07:11
chaos_of_apocalySOURCE CODE07:11
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hybridchaos_of_apocaly: lets note use caps07:12
Falluccerhey07:12
hybridchaos_of_apocaly: there are *many* source codes07:12
hybrids/note/not07:12
Falluccerhey, I'm having trouble install ubuntu07:12
hybridFalluccer: how so?07:12
Falluccerit say invalid compressed format07:12
chaos_of_apocalyof the system.the sources that transmit things to the hardware07:12
LueindenPiles and piles of files :P07:13
metatagchaos_of_apocaly : wat do you need the sources for?07:13
chaos_of_apocalyto see...07:13
Flannelchaos_of_apocaly: you'll have to download the kernel source package from apt.07:13
chaos_of_apocalyok07:13
chaos_of_apocalyhow do i do it?07:14
Falluccerhybrid: it says uncompressing linux and then right below it it says invalid compressed format07:14
Falluccerthen it says system halted07:14
hybridFalluccer: have you tried a different CD?07:14
chaos_of_apocalyhow download the kernel?07:14
Falluccerno07:14
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Fallucceris that what I'm gonna have to do07:15
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Falluccerwhich mirror do you suggest07:15
Flannelchaos_of_apocaly: use whatever you normally use to install stuff (like synaptic package manager, or whatever) and search for 'kernel-source' then pick what you'd like to see.07:15
Calgarchaos_of_aocaly: www.linux.org has the linux kernal source07:15
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chaos_of_apocalyok07:15
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hybridFalluccer: i would try a different CD if its shipit CDs, if it is burned check the md5sum then if it matches re-burn07:15
Flannelor yeah, you can just check linux.org for generic source07:15
hybridFalluccer: mirrors matter not07:15
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fiorentii need a program like network stumbler on windows.??07:16
itrebali've been trying to install 'gem' for Ruby, and i've install ruby1.8 and ruby1.8-dev, but none of them supply 'gem' i did apt-get install gem but thats an OpenGL program.07:16
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metatagchaos_of_aocaly : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto07:16
hybridfiorenti: try kismet07:16
metatagchaos_of_apocaly : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto07:16
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fiorentihybrid: has kismet a GUI?07:16
earthenI want to run a internet sharing script after my dsl connection has connected, how or where should I put the file?07:16
hybridfiorenti: yes it does07:16
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itrebalanyone know what package it might be in?07:17
metatagearthen : try firestarter07:17
sstchurrob_p,  Right now I have traditional ubuntu installed.  Xubuntu is ubuntu configured with XFCE.  Problems is, XFCE doesn't seem to have the network-admin gui07:17
OldHow do i make a user's home dir to be /var/www, and have him have a ftp account for that dir to with proftpd? (the user is called: web)07:17
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sstchurrob_p, which is the only way I know how to get my wireless card activated and working in ubuntu07:17
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OldAnyone!?07:18
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ketsugimake a symbolic link from /home/web to /var/www07:18
Falluccerhybrid07:18
itrebalOld: AFAIK proftpd will use their home directory07:18
earthenMetatag I have the script done and it is working fine it's just i have to run it manully everything after conicting to DSL07:18
Falluccermy compter is being weirf07:18
hybridFalluccer: yes?07:18
Falluccer*wierd07:18
hybridFalluccer: why?07:18
Falluccerinternet connection07:18
metatagearthen : oic07:18
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earthenmetatag, I want it to auto run07:18
Olditrebal, can i change this?07:19
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Falluccerhybrid: what were you sayingbefore07:19
Oldhow ketsugi ?07:19
fiorentihybrid: i have installed kismet.but how do i open it?there's no link in the "a07:19
hybridFalluccer: if you burnered the cd check the md5sum to make sure it isnt corrupt07:19
fiorentiapplications" menu07:19
earthenmetatag,  I've put the file in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d  folder but it's not being run there07:19
Falluccerhybrid: how do I check that07:19
hybridfiorenti: try opening a terminal and typing "kismet" <enter>07:19
ketsugisudo rm -rf /home/web; sudo ln -s /var/www /home/web07:20
FlannelOld: if you made the user in the GUI, you can specify their home folder.07:20
ketsugimake sure there's nothing in the /home/web directory first, though07:20
earthenDoes anyone know where I sould locat this file???07:20
hybridFalluccer: what OS are you running atm?07:20
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OldIm using ubuntu server Flannel07:20
Falluccerwell on the one computer i'm trying to put it on, nothing, and the one i'm typing to you from is running windows 200007:20
metatagearthen : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBootupHowto07:21
fiorentihybrid: FATAL: Please configure at least one packet source.  Kismet will not function if no packet sources are defined in kismet.conf or on the command line.  Please read the README for more information about configuring Kismet.07:21
fiorentiKismet exiting.07:21
hybridFalluccer: do a google search for "Windows md5"07:21
itrebalanyonw know which package provides Ruby's Gem?07:21
earthenmetatag, thanks for the link I'll check that out07:21
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Falluccerhybrid: ok07:21
metatagearthen : np07:21
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Falluccerwhen I do eventually get ubuntu on my computer will I be able to network windows 2000 and ubuntu07:22
hybridFalluccer: once you get it you will need to match it with the Ubuntu md5, which should be downloaded at the same place you got the iso07:22
Falluccerand shre files07:23
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hybridFalluccer: it is possible yess07:23
hybridFalluccer: idk if windows can talk to Ubuntu but i do know Ubuntu can talk to Windows07:23
Oldcheers, it worked!07:24
Old:D07:24
metatagitrebal : http://fatpenguinblog.com/?p=10507:24
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itrebalmetatag: thanks07:25
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metatagitrebal : np07:26
brunoYay from ages ago metatag, I just got ff 1.5 working ^_^07:26
jimMmy_how does ubuntu know which kernel module zu load? i mean my /etc/modules has hardly any common modules listed?07:26
OldHow do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)07:26
metatagbruno : congrats !07:27
fiorentihybrid: thanks for the link07:27
hybridfiorenti: no problem07:27
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jimMmy_i want to compile a new kernel the ubuntu way but i don't know where to enter the modules as for they are only compiled as modules in the default kernel07:28
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metatagjimMmy_ : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto07:28
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Delicate_Shadowhi guys07:30
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metataghi Delicate_Shadow07:30
Delicate_Shadowcan someone help me defining the Fn keys in my laptop ??!!07:31
OldHow do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)07:31
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Delicate_Shadowhi metatag07:31
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Mort_Cinderhi07:31
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thinkleDelicate_Shadow, Are you using GNOME? If so... System->Keyboard Shortcuts...07:32
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metataghi Mort_Cinder07:32
ptikehi07:32
metataghi ptike07:32
Delicate_Shadowhow about KDE ?07:32
Delicate_Shadowand by the way how to start the WIFI ?07:33
metatagDelicate_Shadow : #kubuntu07:33
Delicate_Shadowok07:33
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Delicate_Shadowthanx metatag07:34
metatagDelicate_Shadow : my pleasure07:34
Falluccerhybrid: it said the checksums are the same07:34
Mort_Cinderis there a way of moving my installation to another computer, even the installed programs?07:35
ptikedoes anybody know where i can find the package gstreamer-0.10-plugins-mad-multiverse?07:35
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Falluccershould I re-download it07:36
KaosXallo07:36
Calgarcan anyone help, i just tried to do "apt-get update" and got this error message:07:36
hybridFalluccer: ok now try burning again at a REAL slow speed07:36
CalgarE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)07:36
CalgarE: Unable to lock the list directory07:36
Fallucceri burned it at 8x last time07:36
hybridCalgar: use sudo07:36
madmikeMort_Cinder: there are possibilites07:36
Calgaroh, heh07:36
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KaosXCalgar ... have you rebooted yet?07:36
hybriderr07:37
hybridnot sudo07:37
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CalgarKaosX: wuh?07:37
hybridheh i didnt keep reading07:37
CalgarKaosX: why?07:37
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KaosXIve had that command so the same thing07:37
KaosXa reboot fixed it07:37
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KaosXI tried using su root and sudo with no change07:38
CalgarKaosX: using sudo fixed it, and i rebooted after ubuntu did a kernal update07:38
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KaosXHmm07:38
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KaosXi had that happen the other day after i did an apt-get upgrade dist and su or sudo didnt fix07:39
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slashpcsois una pila de ellos07:39
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slashpcmejor los dejamos. somos demasiados07:39
Flannel!es07:40
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:40
metatagMort_Cinder : http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/07:40
OldHow do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)07:40
hybridOld: well07:40
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alaskanhello07:40
KaosXto create the user the command would be useradd cstrike07:40
alaskanshoul i buy a HP computer is compatible with liux07:41
alaskan?07:41
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Calgarim gunna see if a reboot fixes my problems activating the universe and multiverse, BBS07:41
metwohello07:41
hybridOld: you could addusr and then his home would be /home/cs and then mkdir /cs/2 and chmod it to let cs have all access07:41
metataghello metwo07:41
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hybridbut there maybe any easier way07:41
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KaosXthe problem is restricting access to other dirs07:41
KaosXyou might have to place that user in a group07:41
KaosXand change group permissions in key places07:42
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hybridpersonally i would have a box dedicated to CS so i wouldnt need to worry07:42
KaosXyeah07:42
Mort_Cindermetatag. thanx for the link, but is it safe as in cant there be compatibility issues?07:42
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bon_i get this error when installing a program http://pastebin.com/715567 i am useing kubuntu07:42
metwoi was wondering if someone cold help me enable dri on ubuntu for my ati radeon card07:42
RayFredPiphybrid, hi,are you ?07:42
Falluccerhybrid: I'll burn it at the slowest speed with no interruptions and report back07:43
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Thug-N-Mehow will i burn bin files ?07:43
metatagMort_Cinder : Can't say07:43
hybridFlannel: iight i wish ya good fortune07:43
hybridRayFredPip: good07:43
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KaosXk3b will burn almost anythin07:43
Mort_Cindermetatag, ok i'll look into it07:43
KaosXanything that is07:43
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B0FH!hardware07:44
ubotuhardware is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport07:44
Jimmey__How can I specify a DNS address for ra007:44
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metatagMort_Cinder : check this also: http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_systemimager07:44
metwoanyone07:45
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esfurniture!easysource07:46
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:46
Mort_Cindermetatag, cool thanx07:46
brunoOK, this is gonna sound like a silly question but is it just me that can't play the files on www.metacafe.com, or can no-one?07:46
phacehmmm07:46
phacehow can i set up logitech cordless lx7 ?07:46
metatagMort_Cinder : np07:46
metatagmetwo : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:46
ubuntu_can someone please help me with changing screen refresh rate ??.. ubuntu defaults @ 60hz   thanks :)07:47
OldHow do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)07:47
pike__!res07:47
ubotusomebody said res was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:47
OldThe exact command perhaps? :D07:47
ubuntu_thank you ubotu07:48
megaman123anyone uses nexus-s? trying to get it to run on ubuntu...did not autodetect it07:48
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brunoOld, you tryin-a do counterstrike in wine?07:49
Thug-N-Mehow do i convert a BIN file to an ISO file ?07:49
s|kI'm buying a second pc with 60mb of ram and a P2, I want to set it up as a server07:49
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s|kwhat other kind of hardward do I need?07:49
Flannels|k: a NIC ;)07:49
Abountuhi all07:49
s|kFlannel: do I need a hub or something?07:49
s|kI connect through a cable modem atm07:50
Flannels|k: um, not for the computer.  Yeah, you'll want a router, probably.07:50
Abountuis there a way in gaim to put a photo? ( I mean assign a foto to myself)07:50
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Flannels|k: it'll go wall - cable modem - router - (both computers, separately)07:50
Calgarback again....07:50
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s|kFlannel: do I need a special linux capabale router?07:51
metatagphace : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-65471.html07:51
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pike__s|k: any router07:52
dolobodoes anyone no anything about that easy ubuntu program?07:52
kapputuHave a wireless networking question07:52
Flannels|k: nah, packets are all the same.07:52
s|kis 60mb of ram enough?07:52
Jimmey__what command can I use to assign a DNS address to a wireless ( ra0 ) interface?07:52
Flannels|k: depends on what youre serving.07:52
kapputuI need to connect to a secure network at home07:52
Flannels|k: but probably.07:52
kapputuand any open network when I'm outside. How do I do that?07:52
s|kFlannel: I want to put apache on it and an IRC shell (screen + irssi)07:52
s|kand probably a ssh server07:53
Flannels|k: and its just for personal use?07:53
Kr0ntabkapputu, using wpa?07:53
s|kFlannel: yep07:53
hybrids|k: CLI 60mb is enough07:53
s|kCLI?07:53
Jimmey__Command Line Interface07:53
hybridcommand line interface07:53
s|ksweet07:53
hybridJimmey__: +107:53
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metatagAbountu : accounts > modify > User Options > Buddy Icon07:54
kapputuKr0ntab: what's wpa?07:54
amonkeyis there a program that can read .wab's? i want to check an address book i'm backing up.07:55
hybridkapputu: its wireless encryption07:55
s|kFlannel: thanks07:55
metatagdolobo: #easyubuntu07:55
Kr0ntabwifi protected access07:55
s|khybrid: thanks :07:55
s|k:)07:55
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hybrids|k: np07:55
hybrids|k: my tip07:55
Kr0ntabstandard for higher security in wireless networks07:55
kapputuhybrid: oh that wpa. I thought he was talking about some application in Ubuntu07:55
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Sven_vBhi07:56
hybrids|k: do  server install then apt-get irssi and screen07:56
pike__unless youre my bank which has an open access point :/07:56
kapputuI use WEP in my home network07:56
s|khybrid: thanks :)07:56
Sven_vBi want XMMS to play files directly from an FTP server. which plugin do i need?07:56
hybrids|k: np07:56
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Kr0ntabkapputu, then you can use a tool like wifi-radar or a nhumber of other clients that let you toggle between different networks and store the profiles...07:56
sanmarcosis there a way to get over the initram-fs dependency hell when updating from breezy to dapper, and you have a kernel pre .12 ?07:57
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Kr0ntabconnecting to open networks is easy... you can use the default network-admin tool to simply find and connect to them..07:57
Calgarwhen i try to enable the universe and multiverse, i get this error:07:57
Calgarhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out07:57
Calgarhttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/Release.gpg: Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out07:57
Calgarhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/Release.gpg: Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out07:57
Calgarim guessing it could be that i need to open some ports on my router or somthing, i dont suppose linux has UPnP?07:57
kapputuKr0ntab: what's the exact name of the binary?07:57
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hybridCalgar: use pastebin07:57
sanmarcosis there a way to get over the initram-fs dependency hell when updating from breezy to dapper, and you have a kernel pre .12 ?07:57
Kr0ntabsudo apt-get install wifi-radar07:57
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s|kis $79 a lot for a router?07:58
Kr0ntabwifi-radar is just one of many tools07:58
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dolobowith that easy ubuntu i cant get the second comand to work it says im supposed to typ tar -zxf easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz07:58
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Calgarhybrid: sorry, but can you help me anyway?07:58
Jimmey__s|k, buy a linksys07:58
metatagdolobo: #easyubuntu07:58
Jimmey__They're probably the best07:58
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brunometatag, do you have that link thing to ff 1.5 again? I would look in history but... lost all that in the upgrade of course xD07:58
s|kJimmey__: okay07:58
hybridCalgar: try to apt-get update07:58
dolobo#easyubuntu07:58
pike__s|k: a simple router should be dirt cheap07:59
kapputuKr0ntab: do I need to update my sources? I can't find it07:59
metatagbruno : http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.3&os=linux&lang=en-US07:59
Kr0ntabyeah its in universe07:59
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metatagdolobo: type //j #easyubuntu07:59
hybrids|k: get an WRT54GS or WRT54GL and you can run linux on it07:59
metatagdolobo: type /j #easyubuntu07:59
Kr0ntab!sources07:59
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:59
sanmarcosis there a way to get over the initram-fs dependency hell when updating from breezy to dapper, and you have a kernel pre .12 ?07:59
KarhutonI just installed Dapper Beta 2 and got this error from GRUB:   GRUB Loading Stage1.5.   GRUB Hard Disk Error   |  I also get the same error with Breezy. I have two SATA drivers and PATA CD drive.07:59
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brunoFanks metatag :)08:00
OldThe exact command perhaps? :D08:00
OldHow do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)08:00
Calgarhow come its trying to connect to 1.0.0.0  when i do "sudo apt-get update"?08:00
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hybridOld: one command wont do that08:01
Kr0ntabkapputu, follow the instructions for adding sources that ubotu just gave08:01
Karhutonsda1: ntfs / sda2: ext3 / sda5: ntfs   --  hdd is my CD -- Grub is installed to MBR08:01
ajoOld, sudo adduser cstrike08:01
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metatagbruno : np :)08:01
tonyyarussoHow can I reset all of my applets and their locations in the gnome-panel back to the default?08:01
sanmarcosfuck you all08:01
Kr0ntabeek08:01
sanmarcosfucking ubuntu newbies08:02
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metataghi sanmarcos08:02
dolobometatag: thanks08:02
metatagoops08:02
alaskan("People use Linux on the desktop, because they are too poor to buy a Mac")08:02
alaskanit is true?08:02
Ribsof course not08:02
metatagnp dolobo08:02
Kr0ntabhahaha08:02
Calgarsanmarcos: well, the ubuntu website does say to come here for support........08:02
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brunoI sold my Mac to afford a linux PC...08:02
high-freqhaha....and what is osX  lmao08:02
high-freqfriggin n00b08:02
RibsCalgar: he's gone dude.08:02
Jimmey__People use Macs, because they're 1. Too dumb to use another BSD 2. Make graphics08:02
YoussefAssaderh...08:03
metatagheard macOSx rocks08:03
YoussefAssadPeople use macs because under some circumstances they're right08:03
YoussefAssadgod, what are we, fifteen?08:03
hybridJimmey__: get me an edittor for video in linus and i will quit OS08:03
hybridX08:03
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hybridin linux*08:03
Jimmey__hybrid, that's what I meant about the graphics thing.08:03
hybridah08:03
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Jimmey__YoussefAssad, I'm fifteen.08:04
tonyyarussometatag: Honestly, it's not bad.  Certainly better than Windows, imo.08:04
hybridJimmey__: although Diva Project has potential08:04
tonyyarussoGood for arts student types especially.08:04
LinuxJoneshybrid: there are a few in development but it will still be a few years until they are mature :(08:04
Abountuhi08:04
hybridLinuxJones: yeah i was going to try Diva but i need more than ogg encoding from it08:04
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metatagtonyyarusso : good for geeks too... atleast paul graham says so.. even rails developers08:04
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lkj1Why isn't my fluxbox menu working? It only displays xterm and exit. The admin @ #fluxbox said that this is an ubuntu specific issue. Can anyone tell me how to get this fixed?08:05
LinuxJoneshybrid: jahshaka is very promising looking, it's a suite of multimedia composing tools.08:05
hybridif i could have expose and final cut on Linux i would never need OSX again08:05
lkj1hybrid: the UI is even more confusing than GIMP's, IMHO.08:05
hastesaverhybrid, kino? (I'm not serious)08:05
metataggoing now.. night all08:05
hybridlkj1: what UI>08:05
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Jimmey__GIMP's UI for me, is easy08:06
jimMmy_gnu-night :)08:06
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Jimmey__It might be a personal thing08:06
lkj1The  Jahshaka one, Hybrid08:06
dieffelhello! Dont now if this is the right channel... correct me if im wrong. I have a new usb-harddisk (250gb) and it got one big reiserFS-partition on. It is automounted just fine, but only in readonly. How can i automount it in read/write? I have a VFAT usbkey, and it works just fine.08:06
hybridi love the power of linux but i have no editting software ='(08:06
OldHow do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)08:06
LinuxJoneshybrid: I kow what you mean I am buying a Mac simply for Final Cut Studio, although the price is rediculous for what you get for 3 grand(not even a monitor which is bs)08:06
lkj1sudo mount -rw /dev/sda1, dieffel08:06
hybridOld: we heard every time!08:06
hybridLinuxJones: you will be surprised08:06
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lkj1hybrid: I am trying to remember the name of a really good editing software similar to FCP for linux..08:07
dieffellkj1: ok will it auto mount the next time then?08:07
hybridLinuxJones: macs are way more powerful then believed and Apple's software is made to work best on Macs like noone else08:07
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hybridlkj1: i hope you do :)08:07
LinuxJoneslkj1: you probably mean MainActor08:07
lkj1I don't know, you may need to ask an intelligent person. I am pretty much clueless.08:07
NickGarveyOld: will this be ftp only?08:07
YoussefAssadthere's something to be said for an OS designed to a limited spectrum of hardware08:07
YoussefAssad(re. mac)08:08
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hybridYoussefAssad: Apple isnt in the OS business fyi08:08
hybridhence bootcamp08:08
LinuxJoneshybrid: I know it will be an excellent environment to work in but I am used to pc prices :D08:08
lkj1That last comment was at dieffel08:08
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dieffellkj1: ok08:08
kapputu!sources08:09
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:09
hybridLinuxJones: you get what you pay for in a mac ;D08:09
YoussefAssadhybrid: I'm not looking at it from the Jobs POV. I'm making the simple observation that limiting the hardware range is something with its own set of advantages, even to the user08:09
lkj1@ LinuxJones: I don't know what the name was, but it wasn't main actor.. The UI was purple though.08:09
lkj1purple/grey08:09
hybridYoussefAssad: Apple does need to open the OS they opened the hardware08:09
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YoussefAssadboy, half a day in ubuntu and this is really lovely.08:09
LinuxJoneshybrid: jahshaka ?08:09
YoussefAssadhybrid: running on x86 isn't my definition of opening hardware08:09
hybridYoussefAssad: this is where linux fails misserably, PPC Linux should be awesome because it is all standardized08:10
lkj1http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php308:10
lkj1Cinelerra was the name.08:10
hybridYoussefAssad: Macs can legally run ANY OS08:10
hybridcan your PC?08:10
YoussefAssadhybrid: yes, that is an interesting observation. PPC ought to be miles better08:10
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LinuxJoneshybrid: that's it, it has the worse interface for a computer program of all time :(08:10
kapputuwhen is Dapper getting released?08:10
hybridLinuxJones: MainActor looks ALOT like Final Cut08:11
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LinuxJoneskapputu: 2 1/2 weeks or so08:11
kapputuI saw the installation screenshots08:11
kapputuit was quite cool08:11
intelikeywhat is the eol char for sed ?08:11
gymsmokei just added a new domain to my nameserver... to reload the dns entries without restarting bind9, is it - rndc regen ? (i forget what the syntax is for this)08:11
lkj1Why isn't my fluxbox menu working? It only displays xterm and exit. The admin @ #fluxbox said that this is an ubuntu specific issue. Can anyone tell me how to get this fixed?08:11
YoussefAssadhybrid: friend, I'm trying to look at it from the perspective of my fiancee, not us savvy folk :) She just needs something which works. Limiting the hardware platform helps make it work better08:11
kapputuIt'll help me move more people to linux08:11
LinuxJoneshybrid: they have a demo if you wanna try it, but it's fairly basic.08:11
hybridYoussefAssad: yes OSX will never have driver issues like Windows does :D08:12
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YoussefAssadlkj1: go look in .fluxbox/menu, maybe you want to rebuild that08:12
kapputuwould it be risky to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy?08:12
YoussefAssadhybrid: precisely08:12
hybridLinuxJones: ##videoeditting if ya dont mind08:12
YoussefAssadhybrid: and linux even. Atheros and sis VGA here, not fun08:12
byronHello, I have 2 harddrives and am trying to get tehm both working under the same ubuntu system and when I try to get the other one working it doesnt give me read/write permission, how do I get it to do so?08:13
NickGarveybyron: what file system?08:13
intelikeyQ;     trying to remove line breaks that occure after  :   sed /?/,/^    /d       what should ? be ???08:13
YoussefAssadall these mounting perms questions make me pine for the days when vim /etc/fstab was the way to go08:13
OldNickGarvey, Nah08:13
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tonyyarussoHow to revert gnome-panel to default applets/locations?08:13
byronwell I first tried extention 2 or 3 forget but then I tried fat08:13
Calgarodd, i seem to be missing some of the sources listed here...... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto help?08:13
crazy_penguinkapputu: no.08:14
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pezHi fellow ubunters, is there anyone that knows how to sort out jerky DVD playback?08:14
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NickGarveyOld: going to allow them to log in over ssh and such?08:14
hybridYoussefAssad: yumm vim and fstab08:14
byronany ideas?08:14
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Oldyeah NickGarvey08:15
kapputuno NTFS write support from linux is very painful08:15
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byronOLD?08:15
byronssh?08:16
NickGarveyOld: hmm.. will the command you are looking for is chroot08:16
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needlezHi everyone08:16
Kr0ntabpez, you should enable dma for your dvd drive08:16
Kr0ntab!dma08:16
NickGarveyOld: maybe you could put it in there .bashrc file and not allow them to have write access to it08:16
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Calgarhow do you reset the "software repositories" menu?08:16
NickGarveyOld: but they wouldn't be able to do.. anything.. at all..08:17
Kr0ntabsudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd08:17
Calgarplease?08:17
NickGarveyOld: I think that would break a lot of stuff..08:17
Oldme too08:17
Old:<08:17
Kr0ntabpez, also .. you make the change permanent by editing /etc/hdparm.conf08:17
pezKrontab, does it have cause any risks enabling as the wiki says it has potential problems08:17
Oldnevermind, ill do ftp access mate08:17
needlezDoes anyone know if it is possible to have my Rogers Cable internet successfully running on ubuntu and have my wireless network setup up for my two laptops? i want the wireless network on ubuntu as well08:17
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Kr0ntabnot for your dvd drive08:17
NickGarveyOld: :) know how to set up a chroot jail with ftp?08:17
Kr0ntabyer all good...08:17
Oldbut really appriciated you're help, It's good to know that people are willing to help in this cahnnel. I always come here when i need help, and i ALWYAS get answers :)08:18
Oldi know how to setup a account for having access toa spec dir08:18
Oldso thats np :)08:18
Oldwrote it down D:08:18
Calgarhow do you reset the "software repositories" menu? please?08:18
Kr0ntabthere are some risks when changing values on your hard drive as hdparm can adjust many aspects of the drives functionality... but in most cases yer good08:18
NickGarveyOld: good luck :)08:18
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needlezanyone?08:19
pezalso, why do different multimedia players display DVD playback differently. For example, MPlayer is very pixely08:19
Kr0ntabpez, using dma is a good thing for cdrom/dvd drives... and it takes the load off of the cpu08:19
hybridneedlez: what wifi cards are you suing?08:19
Thug-N-Mewill i have a good reasons to switch to dapper ?08:19
needlezthe wifi cards in the laptop?08:19
needlez*laptops?08:19
hybridyes08:19
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OldNickGarvey08:20
needlezi have no idea, whichever ones came with the computers, infact im pretty sure they are those built-in auto-config ones08:20
LinuxJonesThug-N-Me: Dapper is quite a bit snappier on the desktop.08:20
Oldyou good at mysql btw? :)08:20
FlannelThug-N-Me: dapper is a lot quicker08:20
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tonyyarussoThug-N-Me: Network manager WPA support!08:20
tonyyarussoThug-N-Me: (And it's fast and pretty)08:20
Thug-N-MeFlannel is it ? i heard people saying its slower08:20
hybridneedlez: then with a wifi router and the network cards you should be good to go08:20
pezthanks krontab :-) I'll sort out the DMA through the advice from the Wiki documentation08:21
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FlannelThug-N-Me: Breezy was the "feature" release, Dapper is the bugfix release. of the pair.08:21
Thug-N-Metonyyarusso i heard people saying its slower08:21
Thug-N-MeFlannel ohh i see08:21
Kr0ntabI haven't noticed the difference... but each use different filters, and scaling algorithms... etc. prolly has something to do with it...08:21
Kr0ntabnp08:21
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NickGarveyOld: haha nope, I know a little bit08:21
tonyyarussoThug-N-Me: I heard one say that, faster for me.08:21
needlezhybrid: sweet. ok, now, the REALLY newb question, lol, how (once i install ubuntu) do i configure it to get my internet going again?08:21
NickGarveyOld: its just not a skill I need right now so I haven't learn much of it08:21
Calgarhow do you reset the "software repositories" menu? please?08:21
Oldkk :)08:21
hybridneedlez: more than likely it will be ready to go out of the box08:21
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Thug-N-Metonyyarusso hope it will be for me too :)08:22
needlezhybrid: sweet, thanks :) btw, im not sure if this matters or now, but im TOTALLY replacing windows with linux, i have another seperate pc for windows (my gaming machine).08:22
kapputuwhy would I want the klogd and sysklogd daemons running?08:22
CaptainMorganis there a hotkey for locking the system?08:23
hybridneedlez: nice, have fun :)08:23
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_jasonCaptainMorgan: you can set one in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts08:23
Kr0ntabkapputu, they log events and errors from the kernel and operating system...08:23
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kapputuaah08:24
kapputuok08:24
Kr0ntabkapputu, they're a good thing08:24
CaptainMorganawesome, thanks _jason08:24
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kapputuobviously I guess08:24
needlezhybrid: OH! would you know why Mandriva wont work on my pc. i got the 3 CD's and everything, but when i put them in my drive and click the "install" button nothing happens, and when i reboot with the disk in my drive it totally doesnt read it, even though my boot sequence is in the right order (and yes i burnt the ISO's properly)08:24
kapputuI thought the server daemons were running by default08:24
kapputuapache/ftp/dhcp08:24
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kappututhey don't?08:24
hybridneedlez: cause mandravia is horrid :p no idea really08:24
megaman123whats the command to change the root password (or set it)??08:25
jack|assi have a route entered in my routing table that shouldn't be there.  However, when i try to delete it (route del ip.addr.of.dest) it tells me it doesn't exist.  Is there something special i need to do to remove it that i'm missing?08:25
tonyyarussoCould someone give me the path to the default mail icon in gnome-panel?08:25
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Calgarhow do you reset the "software repositories" menu? please?08:25
Kr0ntabubotu, tell megaman123 about root08:25
Kr0ntab!root08:25
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:25
needlezhybrid: lolol. are there any other themes for ubuntu? or do i have to stick with brown everything? i want some nice looking ones if possible, some that resemble Mac's OSX perhaps?08:25
hybridneedlez: you can theme gnome and kde etc08:26
_rab_needlez, check gnome-look.org08:26
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jhennhow can i find out what video card my computer has from the ubuntu livecd?08:26
Kr0ntabjhenn, lspci08:26
Thug-N-MeFlannel tonyyarusso in gnome its a lot faster right ?08:26
Kr0ntabfrom command line08:26
tonyyarussoThug-N-Me: Yeah.08:27
needlezand i'm assuming all of these will work with ubuntu? (it runs off the GNOME system right? and Kubuntu is the KDE version?08:27
tonyyarussoThug-N-Me: b/c of the 2.14 improvements.08:27
Flannelneedlez: yes08:27
LinuxJonesThug-N-Me: it's quit snappy08:27
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Thug-N-MeLinuxJones ok08:27
_rab_needlez, if you installed ubuntu then its default is gnome, is you installed kubuntu its default is kde08:27
needlezcool08:27
needlezwhats the difference between gnome and kde? or do i want to know? is it easier not knowing? lol, like, is there alot to explain?08:28
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Flannelneedlez: theyre differet environments.  Youre welcome to install KDE and find out.08:28
samuliyeah :)08:28
hybridneedlez: philosphy08:29
samulilike Flannel said, just install kubuntu or ubuntu and then install the other environment and try both out.08:29
samuliit's really easy.08:29
needlezmaybe after i get used to linux i'll go kde. go to see the difference, but for now, i'll stick with what they think the "default" should be08:29
hybridneedlez: gnome is more about being slick and simple08:29
samuliwell not 'slick' :)08:29
hybridsamuli: slick as in not looking like windows :D08:29
samulifor some reason gnome is being a bit slow on dapper. To me atleast.08:29
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hybridsamuli: i've heard it is blazing on dapper08:30
samulignome is a lot better than windows :)08:30
samuliwell.. it's not :P08:30
tonyyarussoPretty please?  Just right-click on the mail icon, properties, and find out the file path for the icon.08:30
samulikde is lot 'snappier'08:30
needlezim glad i am finally getting the chance to go linux, i have wanted to do it for so long...but before this i had a wireless adapter, so i couldnt (no drivers or anything...stupid d-link) but now im hard-wired right in to my modem : D08:30
samulibut I like gnome.. so.. I live with it.08:30
needlezim gonna get rid of windows once and for all!!08:30
samuliand it's not that bad really. just slower.08:31
samulineedlez, good man :)08:31
mDotneedlez congrats... welcome to the club08:31
hybridneedlez: there are some dlink drivers08:31
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Flanneltonyyarusso: which icon?08:31
OldNickGarvey08:31
needlezi know there are some d-link drivers, but not for my particular model.08:31
needlezit was a total bumme08:31
needlezr08:31
tonyyarussoFlannel: For the mail launcher in gnome-panel.08:32
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Oldwhen i try to downloada file from my webserver, it says "you dont have a permission to download this file"08:32
samuliMy windows were bugged down my spyware and stuff like a year ago and I still haven't had any reason to re-install it.08:32
Flanneltonyyarusso: the evolution one?08:32
Oldhow do i open it so everyone can download a file from the webserver? I tried to ex download http://dust2.mine.nu/cstrike/maps/de_mjolby3.bsp08:32
tonyyarussoFlannel: Yeah.08:32
NickGarveyOld: know how to change the permissions?08:32
kapputuI really want to contribute to Ubuntu but I need a mentor08:32
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needlezyeah, im getting sick of all this spy ware and mal ware and stuff. all the viruses floating around...08:32
kapputuI'm a lazy bum who won't do something unless someone gets me started08:32
_rab_needlez, good idea08:32
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kapputuis there a room for Ubuntu developers?08:33
needlezthe more i read about it, the more i see how much better linux is turning out to be08:33
NickGarveyOld: chmod a+r /maps/*08:33
Flanneltonyyarusso: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/evolution.svg08:33
hybridkapputu: always08:33
NickGarveyOld: chmod a+r ./maps/* if you are in cstrike08:33
tonyyarussoFlannel: Thanks.08:33
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Calgarwill somone please help me, i cant seem to add any repositories apart from the cd, and i appear to not have some of the options that are shown here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto so i think i may have accidentally deleted somthing. please!? i only installed like a couple of hours ago!08:33
NickGarvey!aptcd08:33
ubotuto turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:", or in synaptic, go to settings > repositories and disable the cdrom repository08:33
needlezim just waiting for the ISO to finish downloading....i think i lost my SHIPIT disks they sent me when i moved...08:33
samulineedlez, funny thing is that once I got to linux I realized how ugly and hard to use windows is.. And I thought those were the good points of windows.08:33
kapputuhybrid: I meant is there a channel for UBuntu developers?08:33
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OldNickGarvey, i want it to be download able, I mean, all maps/files in /var/www08:34
LinuxJoneskapputu: what language ?08:34
samulineedlez, are you downloading breezy or dapper?08:34
hybridkapputu: #ubuntu-motu ?08:34
needlezsamuli: hahahaah yeah windows is turning out to be more of a pain than anything else. everything i think i have it the way i want it, something goes wrong08:34
NickGarveyOld: then everyone needs read priv08:34
Oldhow?08:34
crimsunkapputu: we're in -devel08:34
NickGarveyOld: cd to /var/ww08:34
needlezsamuli: Brezzy i think.08:34
Oldyeah08:34
Olddone08:34
railki have a laptop with ati radeon x700 mobility, and i'm getting display problems. to be exact, i get scanline-thingies generated by random rows of the screen being shifted a few pixels to the left08:34
samulio-kay.08:34
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samulineedlez, just expect some minor problems and a bit of frustration at the start.08:35
NickGarveyOld: are they all in folders?08:35
Oldall folders are in /var/www08:35
samuliit takes a bit of time to understand the linux way of things.08:35
CalgarNickGarvey: that diddnt help, the thing is, the only binary option i have on the list is backports08:35
kbrooksWhat must a Python project do to make it be packagable?08:35
needlezsamuli: i always do, its part of the process lol.08:35
Oldthats my webserver, i want people to be able to downlad anything in there08:35
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Oldits linked ot my counter-strike server, as a ftp for downloading the maps.08:35
Oldso thats why :)08:35
needlezsamuli: but i figure, once i get the hang of things, it will be alot better08:35
samuligood thing is, that almost everything is repairable and you know what is going on. Much unlike in windows.08:35
LinuxJoneskbrooks: packagable ?08:35
needlezhahah08:36
LinuxJoneskbrooks: yo want to make .deb ?08:36
kbrooksLinuxJones: Yeah08:36
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calamarihi08:36
NickGarveyftp doesn't support symlinks..08:36
OldNickGarvey, All folders/files in /var/www should be download able.08:36
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calamariI'm about to changegraphics cards, and I figure it will not load X when I reboot.. I remember there was a command I'll need, dpkg-reconfigure (something).. what is the rest?08:37
NickGarveyOld: then "chmod -R a+r /var/www"08:37
KarhutonIs it possible to boot to the ubuntu on the hard drive with the installation cd?08:37
Oldwait NickGarvey08:37
kbrookscalamari: xserver-xorg08:37
calamarikbrooks: thanks!08:37
OldIs there a possiblity todo so all files/folders cannot be listed, but download able ?08:37
Oldthat'd be GREAT08:37
kbrookscalamari: switch to vesa b4 u reboot08:37
odysseyit just takes time to figure out what linux software can replace windows with08:37
kbrookscalamari: then switch, then boot into gui08:38
NickGarveyOld: make an index.html page08:38
LinuxJoneskbrooks: I havn't made it that far yet but google seems to point to a #debina-mentors channel08:38
calamariahh, good idea08:38
OldOK, done08:38
NickGarveyOld: that way they don't get a dir listing, then link only to the things you want08:38
Oldwell..08:38
Oldoh08:38
Oldok08:38
Oldhmpfh08:38
NickGarveyOld: or you could make a sub directory with symlinks to only the files you want08:38
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samulikarhuton, yes. And dapper you can install from the live-cd as well.08:38
NickGarveyafter you have made the index.html08:38
Oldnah08:38
Calgaris there anyway to replace my missing entries in repositories? the only binary option i have there is backports, please08:38
kbrookscalamari: after u get ur vid card configgured, switch again, then reboot08:38
Oldso, a index.html in /cstrike /maps etc?08:38
Oldcorrect?08:39
hastesaver!tell Calgar about easysource08:39
calamarikbrooks: thanks a lot! :)08:39
Karhutonsamuli: I want to boot to /dev/sda2 from hdd - how can I do that with Dapper Beta 2 CD?08:39
NickGarveyOld: I guess? not sure what you want08:39
Karhuton*hdd = CD08:39
OldYeah, i have those folders, dont want those ot be shown08:39
LinuxJoneskbrooks: or #ubuntu-motu might be a good place to ask.08:39
samulikarhuton, Umm, I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish?08:39
MisterNhastesaver: the link from !easysource is broken, or rather the site behind the link is broken08:40
samulikarhuton, you just want to mount that partition?08:40
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Oldhow do i restart the webserver again NickGarvey ?08:40
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Calgarhastesaver: the link that the bot gave me is broken, it gives me this error Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/www.ubuntulinux.nl/public_html/content/php/source-o-matic.php on line 20608:40
Old/etc/apt/apache2 restart or ?08:40
NickGarveyOld: sudo killall apache08:40
Oldand then? :D08:40
Karhutonsamuli: no, grub is broken in the mbr of sda. I want to boot to CD, load it's kernel and mount the root system on sda2 (sda1 is windows)08:40
NickGarveyOld: then apache -k start or something, check the man file08:41
KarhutonOr something like that08:41
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hastesaverCalgar, it was working fine a while ago... maybe you can wait till they fix their site (or just ask someone else for their sources.list)08:41
FlannelOld: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart08:41
Thug-N-Mewhats Edubuntu ?08:41
samulikarhuton, you can just re-install grub08:41
FlannelOld: erm, with sudo.08:41
Oldk thanks08:41
Olddoes sudo matter btw?08:41
hastesaverMisterN, Yeah, it's broken (only the easysource page, though; the main page seems fine)... since when?08:41
Karhutonsamuli: No, I can't. It won't work. Bios problem08:41
samulikarhuton, oh. ok.08:41
FlannelOld: yes.  Because as a user you can't do that.  (And that restarts it, don't need the killall stuff)08:41
Oldah ok08:42
MisterNhastesaver: no idea since when. at least since yesterday08:42
Calgarhastesaver: can you give me your sources.list?08:42
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gimpyhtmlis there an ubuntu equivalent to opening multiple folder/files at once into a program08:42
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hastesaverCalgar, lol, ok; but be warned it has a lot of "extra" repositories :)08:42
samulikarhuton, well I don't know if you can sort of boot from cd and make it believe it's in the hdd..08:42
gimpyhtmlsimilar to the CTRL click in windows08:42
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pvd2000hey samuli08:42
samulihey pvd2000.08:43
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Calgarhastesaver: thats cool, i think i can trust that none of them will screw up my comp, so yeah, please send it to me08:43
gabocan anyone tell me how to mount a floppy, please?08:43
pvd2000samuli, I installed puppy linux for fun today and I must say its ridiculousy fast, not a replacement for ubuntu though.08:43
samuliwhat does it use for wm?08:43
defendguinwhy does the mplayer-skins package only have 2 stinking skins?08:43
pvd2000haha, Im not even running Xorg08:44
samulioh, right :)08:44
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samuliwell I sort of want a desktop :)08:44
pvd2000Im running, Xvesa08:44
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pvd2000it has a desktop I mean08:44
samuliok.08:44
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Calgardefendguin: because no one can be bothered to make any more?08:45
AbountuI trying to install easyubuntu08:45
AbountuI did what they said on the site08:45
Abountuand then08:45
kbrooksAbountu: and?08:45
ubuntu_my video card is ati but lspci says "unknown" how can i find out which one it is08:45
AbountuI got an error on the last command08:45
odysseyi have a question about k9copy08:45
AbountuTraceback (most recent call last):08:45
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AbountuFile "easyubuntu.py", line 10, in ?08:45
pvd2000wow they have easyubuntu now? Ubuntu is so easy to install:-x, hehe.08:45
Calgarhastesaver: are you going to send it to me please?08:45
Abountu replace(confdir08:45
defendguinCalgar: its not like anyone has to make skins they just have to put them in the package08:45
Abountu File "/home/charbel/easyubuntu/detect.py", line 113, in replace08:45
Abountuif "cdrom" in line or (line.startswith("deb ") and repos_URI == line.split()[1] ):08:46
odysseydoes anybody use k9copy08:46
AbountuUnboundLocalError: local variable 'repos_URI' referenced before assignment08:46
Abountucan you help?08:46
ed39hi all im new to this08:46
kbrooksAbountu: do not paste08:46
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hastesaverCalgar, look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1392308:46
samulipvd2000, easyubuntu automatically installs rar, divx, mp3 etc. support.08:46
pvd2000gxine plugin works better for me than mplayer plugin in firefox08:46
pvd2000Ahhhh08:47
pvd2000that is convient08:47
needlezsamuli: on that website gnome-look.org, where abouts should i go to download total package themes? the GTK 1.x section? or the GTK 2.x section?08:47
kbrookssamuli: may i correct you? "semi-automatically"08:47
samulikbrooks, feel free to :)08:47
Calgarhastesaver: ok, what do i do with it? please08:47
Abountukbrooks sorry08:47
pvd2000Ill keep in that mind for whenever I update to Dapper drake when the final release comes out.08:47
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kbrookssamuli: EU does not install on run08:47
ubuntu_how can i find out what video card I have?08:47
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Abountuanyone managed to install easyubuntu?08:48
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Flannelubuntu_: open your box and look?08:48
samulineedlez, I don't think there's anything as a package.. gtk 2.x is the controls, icons are icons and metacity is for the window decorations.08:48
Calgarubuntu_: open the side of your computer08:48
tonygeorgehi i have updated ubuntu and since then I have no X windows. It says some error messages with "Unresolved symbols". Doing dpkt-reconfigure xserver-xorg didnt solve this problem. How can i get back the Xwindows?08:48
ed39tried to install new version08:48
KarhutonDapper b2 doesn't come with LILO?08:48
kbrooksAbountu: its a bug08:48
ubuntu_Calgar, Flannel its a laptop you insensitive clods08:48
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Calgarheh08:48
Flannelubuntu_: you didn't specify that, now did you.08:48
tonygeorgeim using breezy08:48
shimondavafter installing "server" minimal installation, which package should i apt-get to get the minimal gnome gui?08:48
odysseywhat software do you recommend to copy dvds08:48
hastesaverCalgar, put that as your /etc/apt/sources.list (if you're sure you want to :)08:48
ubuntu_Flannel, no i didn't08:49
FlannelKarhuton: it does, but you have to use expert install to install it.08:49
ubuntu_Flannel, so do you have any other suggestions?08:49
Abountukbrooks, any known fix?08:49
samulineedlez, to install them you just download the tarballs (like rar's or zip-packages) and from the desktop move them to the theme-manager window.08:49
_paulbhow do i set up vnc server so i can wiew my desktop if i have a dm such as xfce?08:49
KarhutonFlannel: I'm running the normal install and interupted the Grub installation. How can I install lilo instead, without re-running the whole installation?08:49
needlezsamuli: hmm this all seems confusing. i'm sure i'll figure it out though08:49
_jasonubuntu_: lspci and/or lshw08:49
comradeI keep getting this problem with firefox, everytime I go to save a file under my user account it says /tmp/mi2bd8n7.exe could not be saved because you do not have permission to change the contents of that folder08:49
kbrooksAbountu: yes08:49
samulineedlez, it's very easy indeed :)08:49
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samulijust ask for help when you're at that point.08:50
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kbrooksAbountu: go into easyubuntu/trunk/detect.py08:50
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needlezsamuli: well this seems like something i should do once i have ubuntu installed, for now, im not going to worry about it08:50
kbrooksAbountu: Find "def replace(confdir):"08:50
tonygeorgeor is there anyway to rollback a previous upgradation of ubuntu? or Can I re-install ubuntu without loosing data?08:50
shimondavafter installing "server" minimal installation, which package should i apt-get to get the minimal gnome gui?08:50
kbrooksAbountu: then find "for line in sourceslist:"08:51
odysseydoes anybody know what to use to copy dvds08:51
ubuntu__jason, i did it says "unknown ATI"08:51
Flannelubuntu_: you might try googling for your laptop, since you haven't changed it.08:51
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ubuntu_Flannel, this laptop comes with various video cards depending on initial config08:52
kbrooksAbountu: on the blank space before that line, add "repos_URI = ''"08:52
_paulbhow would i set up vncserver to use my computer thathas a dm such as efce?08:52
Calgaruh, how do i open sources.list not in read only?08:52
_paulbxfce08:52
_jasonubuntu_: what brand?08:52
nickrudtonygeorge, no real way to rollback; if you save everything under /home/tonygeorge you'll keep your data08:52
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kbrooksAbountu: save and close the file08:52
ubuntu__jason, dell08:52
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kbrooksAbountu: rerun easyubuntu.py08:52
Mercutio150Hello does anyone know much about archiving?08:52
ubuntu_Mercutio150, man tar?08:52
_jasonubuntu_: you have a service tag somewhere on the computer, login to the dell support site and it will tell you I think, otherwise call dell and they can tell you08:53
tonygeorgenickrud: yes i did save everything under that directory. but will it be there if I re-install ubuntu on the same partition?08:53
ubuntu__jason, k08:53
Mercutio150but is that going to put into multiple packets08:53
nickrudtonygeorge, no, you'll need to reload that onto the hard drive. You can avoid this for next time by making /home it's own partition08:53
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Calgarhow do i open sources.list as writable? please08:53
Mercutio150I have files bigger than 4G08:53
Jowiubuntu: you might be able to find out by following the instructions on this page http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/08:53
nickrudCalgar, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal08:54
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Jowiubuntu_: ^^^08:54
megaman123anyone here with knowledge on dvb....can not scan "failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/fontend0'08:54
gnomefreakCalgar: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:54
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khaledhi.. is the mono package in ubuntu complete ?08:54
Abountukbrooks: sorry but I couldn't find "for line in sourceslist:" I couldn't find sourcelist neither08:54
khaledi can not find glib-sharp or gtk-sharp08:54
gnomefreakCalgar: if that doesnt work try gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:54
ChoboMogHey.  Could someone help me with a possible compatibility problem with a new hard drive?08:54
gnomefreak"08:54
peanutbutter7836how do i set up vnc on xubuntu08:54
ChoboMogI'm running an old Pentium III PC and am planning to buy/install a 250gb hard drive which is on sale.  However, I've heard that there can be problems with an old BIOS and a hard drive above 137gb.  I know there is a utility from Intel, called the Application Accelerator, which can let me access the full 250gb even if my BIOS does not support it.  Unfortunately the utility is only offered for Windows, so there is no Linux support.08:54
Abountukbrooks: there is "source.list" though08:55
Kr0ntabhehe... I guess there's an apt-get for windows, called win-get.  funny.. but pretty useful.  http://windows-get.sourceforge.net/08:55
ChoboMogThe utility would work for me right now, since I am still running Windows XP.  However, I was planning on installing Drapper Drake when it is released on June 1st.  Does anyone know if a similar utility is available for Linux or if the drive might work, even with an old BIOS, as long as each partition is below 137gb?08:55
tonygeorgenickrud: ok, thats too bad. unfortunately i didnt make /home a seperate partition. :-( Any chance that I can only reinstall the x windows? I have the original installation CDs08:55
Jowiubotu, tell peanutbutter7836 about vnc08:55
kbrooksAbountu: pm me08:55
Sputnik_NLWat will run lighter on my system (AMD Athlon XP 1700+, 256mb RAM), GNOME or KDE?08:55
nickrudtonygeorge, oh, X, that's one of the big reasons downgrading can be harsh ;(08:55
paradizelostChoboMog: i've found that a lot of the time, the linux kernel can see the data even if the bios doesn't08:55
gnomefreakSputnik_NL: gnome08:55
gnomefreakSputnik_NL: xfce ;)08:55
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Sputnik_NLgnomefreak: how usable is xfce?08:56
tonygeorgenickrud: Sorry I didnt get you. What do you mean?08:56
mDotSputnik_NLbarely...08:56
ElazarI'm trying to compile subcommander from source and I'm getting an error in what looks like a standard include. Source and error here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13924 Anyone know what the problem might be?08:56
gnomefreakSputnik_NL: what do you mean usable?08:56
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gnomefreakSputnik_NL: i can do anything in xfce that i can do in anyother desktop08:56
Sputnik_NLgnomefreak: well how it preforms in every day use, so stability, ease-of-use08:56
KarhutonFlannel: can I boot the system on the hard drive via the installation cd, with something like boot: linux /dev/sda2 (if the default image is 'linux') ?08:57
Sputnik_NLgnomefreak: I read you08:57
Karhuton*linux root=/dev/sda208:57
Calgargnomefreak, i got this : (gedit:8982): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:08:57
CalgarAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.08:57
nickrudtonygeorge, did you do a breezy to dapper upgrade? Why do you believe you need to roll back X anyway?08:57
gnomefreakSputnik_NL: it works great as everyday use but for ease of use i find it very easy but thats me08:57
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gnomefreakCalgar: it still opened right?08:57
Calgaryeah, but nothing was in it08:58
Calgaror, is there supposed to be nothing in there?08:58
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gnomefreakCalgar: run gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"08:58
Sputnik_NLgnomefreak: I see, looking the screenshots it reminds me of running WindowMaker in the past ;)08:58
gnomefreakCalgar: with the " this time08:58
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hastesaverHmm, if I enable the root account, I won't have to worry about incorrectly using sudo instead of gksudo...08:58
paradizelosthey, anyone wanna know the best enc. key for wireless?  abc123def408:59
paradizelost:D08:59
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gnomefreakhastesaver: not true08:59
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hastesaverdoes starting something from "sudo -i" have the same effect as gksudo?08:59
gnomefreakhastesaver: what do you think gksu is?08:59
tonygeorgenickrud: no i didnt upgrade to dapper. it is still breezy. but it will show me a message that there are upgrades ready to install, so I clicked to install. Then it said i need to reboot, ok reboot. But after rebooting, a message said there was some error with X server and cannot be used. Showed me a lot of text from a log file.08:59
gnomefreakhastesaver: no08:59
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Calgargnomefreak: same thing happens08:59
gnomefreakhastesaver: sudo -i is not for gui sudo -s is iirc08:59
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gnomefreakCalgar: nothing is in it?08:59
tonygeorgenickrud: sorry i mean it showed me a message that there....09:00
nickrudtonygeorge, ah, that's a fixable problem probably. try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:00
gnomefreakCalgar: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is what you are running?09:00
Calgargnomefreak: yeah, nothing is there09:00
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nickrudhastesaver, sudo -i or sudo -s : to see the difference, do an env | sort after each of sudo -i & sudo -s.  sudo -i is safer.09:00
Calgargnomefreak: yes, and i tried it with and without the speech marks09:00
tonygeorgenickrud: I have tried it. but still cannot.09:00
nickrudhastesaver, try gksudo as well09:00
gnomefreakCalgar: you do have gnome installed right?09:00
Calgarim using gnome, yes09:00
gnomefreakCalgar: try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list09:01
KarhutonCan I boot the system on the hard drive via the installation cd, with something like boot: linux root=/dev/sda2 (if the default image is 'linux') ?09:01
Blue89I am chatting from a fresh 5.10 install, and loving every minute of it, but I noticed something strange: my opengl rendering is slower now than it was in windows. is there something I have to configure, or is it just the games I am playing? (the speed varies in game)09:01
nickrudtonygeorge, hm. Is there any way you can get a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.log onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  ?09:01
hastesaverNot to troll, but I've enabled the root account, and start gui apps from it fine. None of the arguments on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo seems convincing to me09:01
kapputuwhen I try to install xemacs I get an error about dependencies09:02
gnomefreakhastesaver: open cups09:02
samuliblue89, type fglrxinfo in the terminal.09:02
Calgargnomefreak: its empty...09:02
gnomefreakCalgar: are you typing it the way i am?09:02
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nickrudtonygeorge, there's a script you can run from the console that will paste those files, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin09:02
megaman123how can i install a firmware ??09:02
nnywhats the packages for compiling (make, etc) ?09:02
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_jason!b-e09:02
ubotuor if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.09:02
gnomefreaknny: build-essential09:02
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Calgargnomefreak: exactly09:02
Blue89samuli, command not found09:03
tonygeorgenickrud: I will try. but I only have links to browse internet. let me try if I can paste it. what is the scripts name?09:03
hastesavergnomefreak, just to be clear, I login to the root account with "ssh -X root@machinename". After this, running GUI apps is perfectly fine, right?09:03
samulihmm.. what card are you using?09:03
nnythanks109:03
nickrudtonygeorge, it's at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin09:03
gnomefreakCalgar: type this for me  gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:03
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gnomefreakshoot09:03
Blue89I don't know, it is a laptop09:03
gnomefreakCalgar: dont type that09:03
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tonygeorgenickrud: ok i will try.09:03
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samuliblue89, probably you don't have opengl enabled.09:03
Blue89a toshiba satellite, if that helps09:03
gnomefreakCalgar: type this gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'09:03
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pvd2000what package are the locate and whereis commands in?09:04
sixpointmy locate database isnt finding anything09:04
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sixpointhow do I get it to rebuild ?09:04
gnomefreakhastesaver: cups has nothing to do with ssh09:04
Blue89so it is all software rendered now? crap09:04
paradizelostBlue89: is it an Intel vid. card?09:04
Kr0ntabhastesaver, running apps "regularly" as root is not impossible... just not the best practice.09:04
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Calgargnomefreak: same error, and same window with nothing in it......09:04
nickrudsixpoint, sudo updatedb09:04
sixpointthanks09:04
sixpointcouldnt remember the command09:05
Blue89no clue, it is whatever this laptop is built with09:05
gnomefreakCalgar: can you join #ubuntu-offtopic please09:05
sixpointjust installed ubuntu09:05
ubuntu__jason, dell chat room is terrible09:05
hastesaverIf it's not offtopic, I'd like to know more about why sudo is better than su (for a single-user machine)09:05
ubuntu__jason, i had to give them all my information and still havne't found out what driver it is09:05
paradizelosthastesaver: didn't you ask the same ? last night?09:05
Calgargnomefreak: ok, i have joined it09:05
samuliblue89, try glxgears -info09:05
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sixpointhastesaver: google it09:06
hastesaverparadizelost, no!09:06
gnomefreaki see you09:06
paradizelostsamuli: glxinfo would suffice for taht09:06
paradizelosthastesaver: k.  someone had the exact same ? last night...09:06
nickrudhastesaver, security is a continuum; what's right for some is not right for others. ymmv09:06
Sputnik_NLIs it recommend to run "firestarter" along with ubuntu?09:06
_jasonubuntu_: there is a dell chat room?09:06
ubuntu_Sputnik_NL, no its not becavuse there are no listening ports on ubuntu09:06
paradizelosthastesaver: lets say you accidentally do an rm -Rf /, as root, you'd be screwed09:06
samuliparadizelost, yeah, but you couldn't see the sweet gears and how fast they're turning. :)09:06
ubuntu__jason, yeah some 1on1 thing09:06
ubuntu__jason, i think its java not sure though09:06
hastesaverparadizelost, and if I do it with sudo, I'm equally screwed09:06
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Sputnik_NLubuntu_: Thanks09:07
sixpointwhats a good linux text editor ?09:07
ubuntu_Sputnik_NL, but if you really feel paranoid it won't hurt09:07
paradizelosthastesaver: but, with sudo, you have to enter your password, gives you a chance to correct your mistake09:07
_jasonubuntu_: tell sixpoint about editor09:07
_jasonubotu: tell sixpoint about editor=09:07
samuliI don't really like the sudo-thing either.09:07
ubuntu_sixpoint, emacs or vi is what most people use, some nano or gedit which are easier09:07
Sputnik_NLAre there any other programs who can improve ubuntu's security, a little like SElinux or AppArmor? (on Fedora/SUSE)09:07
nickrudsixpoint, gedit, gvim, emacs21, nano, my gosh, anjuta,09:07
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sixpointany graphical ones ?09:07
paradizelosthastesaver: plus, if you run apps as root, you run a risk of having hte system compromized09:07
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ubuntu_Sputnik_NL, nah fedora has selinux and there is hardened debian iirc09:08
paradizelosthastesaver: just like you don't want apache running w/ root privileges09:08
paradizelostsixpoint: i use vim/gvim09:08
Jimmey__How do I specify a DNS address without X?09:08
hastesaverparadizelost, I only log in to root to do single things at a time anyway :)09:08
sixpointI dont like vim09:08
sixpointtoo complicated to learn09:08
ubuntu_Jimmey__, i think resolve.conf09:08
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ajamukhi!09:08
paradizelosthastesaver: well, then sudo should be fine for you.09:08
nickrudsixpoint, I'd recommend gvim, it's menu driven as well. Gedit is quick & nice09:08
hastesaverparadizelost, I don't run apps as root. I'm just saying, for the things for which it's recommended to use sudo, I use real root09:08
ubuntu_sixpoint, its really quite simple09:08
LinuxJonesSputnik_NL: you can install bastille it's a hardening program for linux09:08
sixpointcall me a newb, but I like the way dreamweaver editor works09:08
ajamukcan anything read me?09:09
Jimmey__ubuntu_, where's that09:09
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paradizelosthastesaver: the only reason i enable login as root, is to be able to do scp of protected files09:09
hastesaverparadizelost, but sudo asks me to type a password, which is a pain, and more importantly, it doesn't work with X apps09:09
Sputnik_NLubuntu_: No no need for extra applications/services?09:09
ubuntu_sixpoint, i can email you an emacs quick reference sheet that will get you learning emacs in no time. its pdf. just pm me your email if you want it09:09
_jasonajamuk: read you?09:09
ajamukalguien habla espaol?09:09
_jason!es09:09
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:09
ubuntu_Sputnik_NL, i don't understand what your asking09:09
Sputnik_NLLinuxJones: I'll take a look09:09
paradizelosthastesaver: a minor modification to /etc/sudoers fixes that... :D09:09
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hastesaverparadizelost, even the GUI apps?09:09
ubuntu_Jimmey__, not sure let me look a sec09:09
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Cervezawhat is the apt-get package for x11 development?09:10
LinuxJonesSputnik_NL: here's a link >> http://www.bastille-linux.org/09:10
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ubuntu_Jimmey__, its in /etc09:10
Sputnik_NLubuntu_: I'm just interested in applications/services to make Ubuntu secure, like fedora ans suse claim with SElinux and AppArmor.09:10
nickrudCerveza, x-window-system-dev gets you everything, including the kitchen sink09:10
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ubuntu_Sputnik_NL, i don't know Im not really into security09:10
paradizelosthastesaver: w/ that modification, nothing that is sudo-ish will ask for a password.09:10
tonygeorgenickrud: i have pasted successfully :-) please check this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1392509:10
ferronicaj/ #windows09:10
paradizelostpm me if you want to know more.09:10
Sputnik_NLubuntu_: Thanks though :)09:11
ferronicaj\ #windows09:11
Sputnik_NLLinuxJones: Thanks for the link, looks interesting.09:11
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Cervezathanks nickrud09:11
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nickrudtonygeorge, do you have xserver-xorg-driver-mga installed?09:12
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calamarihi09:12
Jimmey__ubuntu_, thank you09:12
paradizelostany one know if there's a reason that ubuntu doesn't use superadduser by default?09:12
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paradizelostlet you specify groups when you create the user09:13
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tonygeorgenickrud: how can i check? i know that my card is a matrox card.09:13
calamarimy only video choice seems to be 60Hz, how do I tell it I want better choices?09:13
Blue89I di what you said, it ran for a few seconds at full speed, then the whole computer locked up09:13
nickrudtonygeorge, the easy way to see is to type apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-driver-mga  , and it will tell you which version you have installed under Installed:09:13
Jimmey__calamari, you've got to write the choice you want to xorg.conf, in /etc/X1109:13
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ubuntu__jason, dell told me i have integrated intel video but lscpi shows ati?09:14
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paradizelostubuntu_: laptop or desktop?09:15
calamariJimmey__: okay I'm editing that file, but I'm not sure what to change09:15
ubuntu_paradizelost, laptop09:15
Hsoquestion, is there a way to clear history/cookies/etc in Firefox on the ubuntu Livecd? I cannot see that option in the Tools menu :(09:15
lufisHow can i get my ntfs partition to show up on my desktop? it's already mounted and everything09:15
paradizelostubuntu_: what did you ask for when you bought it?09:15
tonygeorgenickrud: yes i have it. version 6.8.2-77.109:15
paradizelost!dell09:15
ubotudell is, like, totally, Check http://support.dell.com for hardware issues09:15
ubuntu_paradizelost, i didn't buy it09:15
paradizelostif you go there, and type in the service tag, it'll tell you what the original configuration was09:15
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ubuntu_paradizelost, i doesn't09:16
ubuntu_paradizelost, it09:16
Blue89lspci show this: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY09:16
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_jasonubuntu_: what's your service tag?09:16
paradizelostubuntu_: you need to get to the area where it lists the waranties.09:16
paradizelosti know it does09:16
paradizelostwhat's the service tag09:16
keNzianyone can help me with this - http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zrzutekranu3rr.png09:17
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megaman123need some help here plz :) i found this dvb-driver.tar.bz2 in the /usr/src/modules folder .... how do i install this file ???09:17
calamarianyone know how to enable other choices besides 60Hz?09:17
keNzithere are 3 warnings09:17
paradizelostcalamari: it's a driver issue09:17
KarhutonHow can I start expert installation mode in Dapper b2?09:18
calamari!nvidia09:18
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:18
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paradizelostubuntu_: what's the service tag on the bottom of the laptop, i'll tell you what it has for a video card09:19
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nickrudtonygeorge, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-mga/+bug/43793 . Someone posted a hack fix at the end09:20
dougie_hi guys - I'm trying to get a microtouch usb touchscreen working per the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158666 but I don't have a /dev/ttyUSB009:20
paradizelostubuntu_: pm me if you want09:20
dougie_does anyone have any pointers on that?09:20
dougie_(the touchscreen does respond - just not calibrated correctly)09:20
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megaman123anyone could help me out install this dirver.tar.bz2 package ??09:21
tonygeorgenickrud: yes. im still here. waiting for you.09:21
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nickrudtonygeorge, look up :)09:21
_jasonubuntu_: I see what you are saying, they don't actually list a card, that probably means it was integrated then or someone messed up09:21
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nickrudtonygeorge,  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-mga/+bug/43793 . Someone posted a hack fix at the end09:21
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ubuntu__jason, well dell said integrated in this chat thingie09:22
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dougie_if I plug a device into the USB port should it always show up under a /dev/ttyUSB device?09:23
paradizelostubuntu_: but your lspci said ati, which do you believe?09:23
monkee13bunzip2 dirver.tar.bz2  then tar -xvf dirver.tar09:23
paradizelostas i said, i'll look it up for you if you want09:23
paradizelostyou have to know what you have to get it working right09:23
ubuntu_paradizelost, yeah i msgd u09:23
tonygeorgenickrud: yes. you wanted to know which version of xserver-xorg-driver-mga is installed on my pc. here it is :09:23
tonygeorgenickrud: version 6.8.2-77.109:24
megaman123ok...another question... have this makefile file ... how do i build it ?09:24
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monkee13./configure && make && make install09:24
resthi ist there a backup-tool  for the hole harddisk ?09:24
nickrudtonygeorge, I saw that. Your exact problem is shown at that link I gave you, and a potential fix is there as well09:24
paradizelostubuntu_: i'm not seeing it09:24
nickrudtonygeorge, I don't have a matrox, so I can't actually test it :)09:24
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tonygeorgenickrud: would you please give me that link again, i cannot see your message with a link other than that pastebin link. sorry.09:25
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zenlunaticparadizelost, now?09:26
nickrudtonygeorge,  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-mga/+bug/43793 . Someone posted a hack fix at the end09:26
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tonygeorgenickrud: ok i will try this. Thank you :-)09:26
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calamariparadizelost: okay, I installed the nivida drivers and got the logo, but 60Hz is still the only choice that gnome gives to me.. what next?09:27
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nickrudtonygeorge, those files that you're replacing will be automatically updated with the next xorg release, you might want to keep that file from matrox around09:27
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dougie_hi guys - in terms of referencing a USB device - do they always appear as /dev/ttyXXX?09:28
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tonygeorgenickrud: still writting down the long url. :) dont know how to copy and paste, no X.09:28
monkee13anyone know how to link up kOrginizer to google calander gmail?09:28
robertldougie, depends on the USB device.09:28
nickrudtonygeorge, install gpm, it gives you a cut & paste mouse on the console09:29
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Jimmey__Hello09:29
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robertland dougie, tty usually ref's a terminal.09:29
dougie_robertl: this is a touchscreen - i'm trying to calibrate it (ubuntu detects it (it responds)) but can't work out how to reference it for xorg.conf09:30
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dougie_robertl: so USB wouldn't be ttyUSB0?09:30
jmcccneed help diagnosing a boot hang, looks like kernel upgrade no longer recognizes SATA boot drive initrd09:30
Jimmey__Hello. I'm in non-graphical mode now, and I'm trying to install gnome/X11...I've got them installed, but when I try and "startx"09:30
paradizelostcalamari: is there a reason you want higher than 60hz?09:30
Jimmey__It says something about the fonts.09:30
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tonygeorgenickrud: ok i will try, that. it will be very helpful.09:30
robertlseing as how it's a touch screen I don't rightly know dougie.09:30
nickrudcalamari, next you need to add HorizSync & VertRefresh for your monitor in the Monitor Section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:30
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calamariparadizelost: yes, 60hz really hurts my eyes.. I need 85 or higher09:31
dougie_robertl: cool - thanks anyway mate09:31
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robertlwhats lsusb spit out at you?09:31
dougie_robertl: this was the guide i was following: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15866609:31
Jimmey__Is there a fonts pack that I can download?09:31
tonygeorgenickrud: sorry i cannot view that website because links showed an error that it doesn't support SSL.09:31
dougie_robertl: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0596:0001 MicroTouch Systems, Inc. Touchscreen09:31
calamarinickrud: ahh, that's it.. I guess it overwrote my old defaults.. thanks!09:31
nickrudtonygeorge, try lynx or elinks09:31
jmcccdoes anyone know if 2.6.15-21 or -22 have problems with SATA?  I can no longer boot09:31
tonygeorgenickrud: ok09:32
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calamaribrb09:33
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robertldougie, I fired up a sidebar so we aren't churning here.09:33
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gnomefreakjmccc: try asking in #ubuntu+109:33
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jmcccgnomefreak: thanks09:33
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gnomefreakyw09:33
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YoussefAssadwhat's #ubuntu+1? /me goes to find out09:33
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dougie_robertl: sorry mate - i'm a noob - how do I join the sidebar?09:34
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Oldewill sudo   install work for Debian Pkg in Ubuntu ?09:34
megaman123ladies and gentlemen...how do i install this driver file...is that a very hard question :)) i have this dvb-driver.tar.bz2 in the usr/src/modules folder... i want to install this file ...thank u anyone for helping out :))09:34
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robertldougie, should be a tab if you are using xchat... if not thats cool.09:34
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dougie_i am - but don't see it09:34
robertlid that mutouch driver loaded on your box?09:34
dougie_I have an underscore after my nick09:34
robertlooops. my bad.09:35
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robertldougie_09:35
robertllike so?09:35
nickrudmegaman123, start by cd /usr/src && sudo tar xf  dvb-driver.tar.bz2  and read README & INSTALL09:35
dougie_yah!  :)09:35
robertlcool.09:35
Jimmey__How can I copy a directory?09:35
LinuxJonesOlde: sudo dpkg -i package.deb09:35
nnyok so close09:35
Oldeyes09:35
nnyi have my interface working with wireless ipw394509:35
paradizelostjimMmy_: cp -Rfv /source/directory /destination/direcotry09:35
nnycan't seem to get it to connect to my AP09:36
robertlso dougie_, is that driver on your box?09:36
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freemanenmy firefox crash then i am trying to go to another page other than the startpage what could be the problem?09:36
Jimmey__Thankyou09:36
steveireI have a creative zen plugged into my laptop. Any idea where in devices there is a reference to it?09:36
nnyiwconfig eth1 essid belkin54g mode Ad-Hoc sound right?09:36
robertllsmod |grep mutouch09:36
steveireI have kzenexplorer, but it doesn't let me browse the drivew09:36
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dougie_k09:36
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calamarinickrud: thanks, that fixed the 60hz problem09:36
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soleneola09:36
Falluccerhey09:37
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nickrudcalamari, not a hard stretch ;)09:37
paradizelostnickrud: calamari, just wondering what was the fix for future reference?09:37
dougie_robertl: not mutouch - but i do have mtouchusb09:37
Falluccerhybrid: I reburned it and it worked09:37
robertlhmmm.09:37
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dougie_mtouchusb               5888  009:37
dougie_usbcore               104188  3 mtouchusb,uhci_hcd09:37
hybridFalluccer: YAY!09:37
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nickrudparadizelost, no useful monitor def in xorg.conf & ddcprobe didn't work for debconf09:37
megaman123nickrud: it extarcted 3 folders and 1 "Makefile" file, but no read me files09:38
nickrudor whatever the debconf does09:38
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calamariparadizelost: dpkg-reconfigure says that it will use monitor defaults (and I assumed it used the old values in xorg.conf), but it doesn't.. it changes the values to its own defaults which enforces 60hz.. so I had to copy the horiz/vert lines out of my old xorg.conf to the new one09:38
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paradizelostahhh.  k09:39
nickrudmegaman123, I'd look to the website you got it from for a howto.09:39
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basti__Hello09:39
Jimmey__I can't get X to work! It says something like: "Could not load default font: 'Fixed'"09:39
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Jimmey__What's the problem?09:39
megaman123i didn't get it from anywhere ... i found it there09:39
carlHey guys, I'm having a problem with my SATA drive... I just bought one and plugged it in, but how do I mount it?09:39
basti__where to find the sources installed via cvs?09:39
megaman123i guess it was installed with the system09:39
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calamariJimmey__: most likely there is another error09:40
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iNikuJimmey__: your xfont packages are probably broken somehow, I remember someone else having that problem as well09:40
Jimmey__calamari, there's several, but they all seemed to be regarding fonts09:40
iNikuX will die if the 'fixed' font is not available09:40
paradizelost!mount09:40
ubotumethinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f09:40
robertldougie_ is xserver-xorg-input-mutouch installed?  sudo aptitude search server-xorg-input-mutouch09:40
Jimmey__I've copied my X11 directory from a working dapper install partition09:40
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paradizelostJimmey__: why are you trying to use Xorg 7 configs w/ xorg 6.x?09:40
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dougie_robertl: yes - i   xserver-xorg-input-mutouch      - X.Org X server -- muTouch input driver09:41
Jimmey__I'm not - I did a server install of Dapper09:41
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robertldougie_, cool.09:41
martcan anyone tell me how to run mysql on breezy?  installing it gives a shed-load of errors.09:41
Falluccerhow do I install drivers for my USB internet adapter?09:41
megaman123what are Kconfig files?09:41
nickrudmegaman123, weird. That's not a default thing. Did you install dvb-driver-source for some reason?09:41
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iNikuJimmey__: try reinstalling xfonts-base, xfonts-75dpi and xfonts-100dpi09:41
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Jimmey__Okay09:42
carlAnyone? shouldn't it be HDBx? but it's not... there isn't even any hdb in /dev/09:42
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megaman123i want to get my dvb card to run..its a nexus-s card09:42
_r_a_b_is there  a ubuntu server channel?09:42
paradizelostcarl: SATA is /dev/sd09:42
Skwid_ahum09:42
Skwid_is there a command to rename files in a folder09:42
iNikuJimmey__: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi09:42
Skwid_(add a prefix ??)09:42
paradizelostSATA is always recognized as a SCSI device09:42
Falluccerdoes anyone know how I can install my netgear usb adapter drivers09:42
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Falluccerall the drivers on the CD are for windows09:42
robertldougie_, try using the mutouchusb as an entry in xorg. it comes up in the lsmod so I believe thats what needs to be called <hunch disclaimer> =)09:43
paradizelostFalluccer: could use ndiswrapper09:43
paradizelost!ndiswrapper09:43
carlparadizelost: so what should the device be called then?09:43
ubotundiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper09:43
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gringohi guys. anyone knows a desklet-like app for gmail and google calendar?09:43
paradizelostcarl: /dev/sda or /dev/sdb09:43
paradizelostsomething like that09:43
_r_a_b_is there  a ubuntu server channel?09:43
paradizelosthow many other SATA drives do you have in the system09:43
nickrudmegaman123, I don't know much about video recorders on computers, but from what I see your drivers are already present in the ubuntu kernel.09:43
Skwid__r_a_b_: #ubuntu-server ?09:44
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megaman123how can i find out...when i try to run any prog it gives me an error!!!09:44
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eduardoHi folks. I have a problem with Ubuntu Dapper Beta. I installed it in my Satellite Notebook and now it no off. Anybody know something?09:45
Skwid_anyone ?09:45
steveireAny ideas how I can see what's plugged into my laptop usb? I had a look around /dev, but I don't know what I'm looking for09:45
dougie_robertl: ok - will do - thanks again for that mate!!09:45
Fuzzy76Could anyone tell me how to get a permanent userlist in the x-chat-gnome client shipped with dapper?09:45
paradizelosteduardo: dapper stuff is #ubuntu+109:45
sklavhi guys09:45
paradizelostFuzzy76: use #ubuntu+109:45
Fuzzy76thanks, paradizelost09:45
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nickrudmegaman123, this may be overkill, but http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php might help09:46
Skwid_is there a command to rename files in a folder (add a prefix)09:46
megaman123will look at it ...thanks :)09:46
nickrudmegaman123, I vouch for nothing there :)09:46
_jasonSkwid_: rename, or a for loop involving mv09:47
skkSkwid_: for i in *; do mv $i prefix_$i;done09:47
Skwid_skk: thanks09:47
megaman123:)) ...this is the guide that im using :) and i can't get past the first part where it tries to scan the channels :)))09:47
nickrudmegaman123, did you do the link for the old card, http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_novafw.php09:48
robertldougie_, hope it helps some... seems like a good howto, just a little different.09:48
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robertlfrom what you are looking at.09:48
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megaman123no .. i'll check that now09:49
Skwid_skk: worked perfectly, thx :)09:49
nickrudmegaman123, you might want to look in /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t for a more appropriate place to scan, as well09:49
steveireIf I run an application in the terminal, is it supposed to tell me what the application is doing, or is there some other way I can find out?09:49
skkSkwid_: Great :)09:50
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robertlsteveire, depends on the app.09:50
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megaman123i tried the scan command, but the problem is with opening the frontend of the device09:51
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basti__When I try to install banshee from CMS, I09:52
basti__When I try to install banshee from CVS, I get the following error ==> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1392809:52
basti__sorry, the first was a fault09:53
basti__:)09:53
nickrudmegaman123, since I don't have one to play with here, I think I'm about to exceed my level of competency on this one. You might get some more knowledgeable help on #mythtv09:53
paradizelostubotu: tell jhenn about easyubuntu09:53
JDahlis there a problem with latest Gnome packages in Dapper? I don't get any menus or taskbars when in Gnome sessions - just the background09:53
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kbrooksparadizelost: :-)09:53
Dr_WillisJDahl,  sounds like the gnome settings or somthing got trashed.09:53
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Dr_WillisJDahl,  check and see if with a new user the stuff works.. (or rename/move your .gnome* dirs)09:54
szollerno idea?09:54
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JDahlDr_Willis, I tried removing .gnome*, but that didn't help - creating a new user is a good idea, though09:54
tonygeorgenickrud: yes that solved my problem. Thank you very much :-)09:54
nickrudtonygeorge, heh. swing a cat long enough, you're bound to hit something :)09:54
Dr_WillisJDahl,  ya - it may be a .gconf* or some other dir as well09:54
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szoller:(09:55
megaman123thanks :)09:55
tonygeorgenickrud: :-)09:55
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Abountuyears ago I remember I used to use a program called qview to browse photos on my disk09:57
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nickrudmegaman123, and by the way, if you look for more help go to #mythtv-users ;)09:57
Abountuis there a similar application to qview in ubuntu?09:57
nickrudAbountu, gthumb09:57
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Abountunickrud, thank you09:58
Dr_Willisheh - ive even used wine and 'irfanview' :P09:58
Dr_Willisdepends on your viewing needs.. thers a great many image viewers out now09:58
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Abountunickrud: do you know if I can make it the defaut app to open photos? (jpg, png, bmp, gif...)09:58
nickrudAbountu, uh, I think I got that one wrong, a hex editor? ghex09:58
Abountuah no no09:59
Abountugthumb looks fine09:59
nickrudAbountu, right click each file type, choose properties, and set it with the 'open with' tab09:59
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nickrudAbountu, you need to do it for each type09:59
AlmtyBobI want to catalog all my back up DVD-Rs, is there some way to make a script so when I insert a disc into my drive it will automatically do something like "ls /mount/cdrom > ~/volumelabel.txt"?09:59
Falluccerwhen using ndiswrapper, which utilities should I download to put on my computer running the wireless usb adapter09:59
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paradizelost!ndiswrapper10:00
uboturumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper10:00
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Dr_WillisAlmtyBob,  ya could proberly disable the auto-mounting stuff and make a script to do it. you may have to manually run the script with each dvd insertion however.10:00
delmarAnyone here used or using Azureus? I'm running it on ubuntu 5.10 and it's not working properly. Files just wont start, but the same torrents start up almost immediatly wen I boot back to windows.  I've opened the port and forwarded it from the firewall, and set that port up on both linux and windows versions but the linux version just wont start the torrents downloading.  Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?10:01
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Abountunickrud: can you tell me for example for one type, and I'll try to figure out for the others...10:01
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Dr_Willisyou sure your ip you are port forwarding/opening ae the same under both windows/linux?10:02
Abountunickrud, can I pm you?10:02
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AlmtyBobDr_Willis: I was trying to find a way to do it so it'll automatically run the script run it's mounted10:02
Dr_Willisazureus uses that upnp stuff on my router. :P i dident have to mess witht he ports.10:02
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delmarDr_Willis, sure.. I've checked that, and the Test works on both.10:02
Dr_WillisAlmtyBob,  that will be much harder to do. SOme days it pays to just 'do it all'10:02
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nickrudAbountu, right click a jpeg. At the bottom of that menu, there's an Item Properties. Select that. In the dialog that pops up, there's a tab called 'Open With'. Select the white circle next to gthumb, and close10:02
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AlmtyBobdoh10:03
delmarDr_Willis, yep. its nice when that happens.   The Azureus test comes back OK on both.  Its the same IP being used on either windows or Linux, and the port is the same on the firewall pointing to that IP etc... that part is setup OK.10:04
Abountunickrud: it's refusing to move ... does it have to do with me not root?10:04
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delmarI have a feeling that it might be an issue with the JRE/Java version that is installed on here10:04
robertldelmar, what does lsof -i :6881 return (with azereus running)?10:04
nickrudAbountu, no, this should be for yourself. And, you must click the circle, not just the name of the app. Frustrating10:04
victor__hi all. I got a doubt. Does Kopete use tabs instead of separated windows?10:05
victor__like gaim does10:05
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ajohi hv a prob in ma mplayer, even while playing wmv files in fullscreen it plays only in a small window..10:05
ajobut the same file plays fine in xfmedia10:05
hastesavervictor__, gaim also uses tabs10:05
delmarrobertl, that isnt the port im using... i don't need to use that port specifically, i can use any port as long as I tell Azureus what port it is I have open anf forwarded.10:05
delmarrobertj, just a sec. ill fire it up and start a test torrent and see10:06
nickrudajamuk, try mplayer -vo xv <filename> , does that go full screen properly?10:06
robertldelmar, ok. is it listening on the port you want it to? =)10:06
nickrudajo, sorry, that just above was for you10:06
victor__hastesaver, yeah, that's what i said (or what i've tried lol)10:06
Abountunickrud.. still not working :-( .. I clicked all over the place!10:06
ajonickrud, thankx..10:06
delmarrobertj, looking.... it must be since it's in-built Test returns an OK result10:06
victor__the problem is that gaim has gone crazy, and it only writes what i type when it wants10:06
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nickrudAbountu, I just did it here ...10:07
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hastesavervictor__, oh, sorry. Yes, from what I've heard, Kopete uses tabs too.10:08
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Jimmey__I'm looking for a light-weight web browse.10:08
nickrudajo, if that works properly, there's a complete config at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto10:08
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Zane42Looking for help with nzb files in ubuntu.10:08
delmarrobertj, hrm. so the test works fine, but when i do what u say...while its running... i get no result10:08
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delmarrobertj, using the port i have set not 6881 of course...10:08
victor__hastesaver, thanks! :D10:08
Zane42I downloaded nzbperl.pl But I'm not limitted to using that one.  Any that would work I would be happy with.10:09
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ajook..10:09
Abountunickrud, well it're really not working... it there a config file where this gets written to, so I can add it there manually?!10:09
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delmarrobertj, it never downloads any traffic... not a single bit... but occasionally it changes from red, to blue, then to red.. and occasionally from red to green, then back to red...all the while.. never downloading a thing10:09
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JowiJimmey__: (super lightweight terminal) links, elinks, lynx. (terminal with graphics) w3m. (fast gui but not feature rich) dillo, w3c. (others) opera, firefox, konqueror, epiphany-browser10:10
Jimmey__Thankyou10:10
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Jimmey__Jowi, what about file browsers? Like nautilus?10:10
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idefixwhat is the file system of a DVDrom?10:11
JowiJimmey__: Rox-filer is king. Thunar is ok as well10:11
Dr_Willisidefix,  UDF often.. or ISO10:11
Jimmey__Thankyou10:11
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nickrudAbountu,  I think it's in ~/.local/share/applications10:12
high-freqcan someone help me with a pcmcia card...i have an older one...but dmesg says  prism_config() failed10:12
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high-freqand also loads up orinoco as well.10:12
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Abountunickrud: ok let me check this ... thanks10:13
robertldelmar, i just tried it here with my box, and with azureus running I am showing 4 connections using lsof. do you use a firewall on the box?10:13
nickrudAbountu, a stab in the dark would be changing the window theme to default, it's very easy to see which dot has the circle ...10:13
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Abountunickrud: change the window them to default? how?10:14
delmarrobertj, iptables -L reports Accept on all.. no firewall is in place10:14
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idefixhow can you change the DVD-code of your DVD-player?10:15
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nickrudAbountu, system->preferences->theme, but that's just a stab in the dark. I really think you're missing the tiny click point10:15
robertldelmar, another avenue to check is to use strace -c [path/to/azureus]  fire up a torrent, let it run and then kill it (the app). check there for various errors.10:15
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nickrudidefix, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has a section on changing the region code10:16
delmarrobertj, lets check some settings a moment... ive setup 6881 on the router as well, just to rule that out as well10:16
Zane42is anyone here familiar with using nget, nzbget, or nzbperl?  I've tried all three without any success.10:16
delmarrobertj, under connection... i have all things ticked10:16
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delmarrobertj, nothing for proxy options10:17
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delmarrobertj, advanced network, what do you have setup in there?10:17
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robertldelmar, strace -o [file-name]  azureus   fire up a torrent, let it run a bit... kill the app and comb for interesting things like maybe permissions are off on some lib it needs maybe...10:18
pvd2000Hoe can you get .mkv files to play subtitles with gxine or mplayer?10:18
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delmarrobertj, ok i set 6881 restarted Azureus and now i see two lines... java    28275 delmar   13u  IPv4  63628       TCP *:6881 (LISTEN)10:19
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robertldelmar... one sec i am checking my connection settings.10:19
delmarrobertj, the second line is UDP and doesn't have (LISTEN)10:19
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robertldelmar... oooooooh.10:19
voraistoshey people, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and the tool to configure mouse doesnt work for my (synapticS) touchpad. how can i change the config files to make it less sensitive ?10:19
delmarrobertj, still no joy with the torrent however10:19
Dr_Willisvoraistos,  edit the xorg.conf by hand10:19
delmarrobertj, but lets gib it a minute10:19
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robertldelmar, hm, might need to have that UDP listening... checking.10:20
Abountunickrud: does editing gthumb-usercreated.desktop, and adding in the MimeType=image/jpeg;image/jpg;image/gif ... work? do you thing that would work?10:20
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nickrudAbountu, it might. You could always delete it if it doesn't :)10:20
voraistosDr_willis: ok, ill try that. will i have to restart xserver to see it working ?10:20
untunghi can win client log into ubuntu server?10:20
delmarrobertj, its really frustrating when u have a few hours worth of downloads queued under windows and can't boot back to linux to play with stuff :P10:20
Dr_Willisvoraistos,  any changes to the xorg.conf require a total restart of X. NOT just a logout/backin to GDM10:21
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delmarbut since running Everquest under Cedega is such a pig, I need to be in windows half the time anyway10:21
robertldelmar, sounds like hell! hey check this out. http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php?title=Why_ports_like_6881_are_no_good_choice10:21
Abountunickrud:changing to another theme didn't help10:21
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Abountuit's definetly locked10:21
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voraistosDr_Willis: okok. i wasnt sure, since with the gnome tool i dont need an x restart10:22
robertldelmar, I installed azureus local to my home directory as well.10:22
delmarrobertj, exactly. thats why i didnt wanna use it... ISP's and people that are anoyed at file sharing apps block 688110:22
pvd2000how can you get .mkv files to play in gxine? it already plays mkv files just doesn't show subtitles.10:22
delmarrobertj, latest version?10:22
Dr_Willisvoraistos,  not sure what that gnome tool did. :P but i doubt if it altered the xorg.conf.10:22
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delmarrobertj, what version of ubuntu are u using?10:22
robertlI just call it by striking alt-f2, /home/robertl/azureus/azureus10:23
delmarrobertj, im gonna switch the port back, restart Azureus and check for the listen again10:23
robertlstill breezy.10:23
nickrudAbountu, that is very strange. Try changing another mime type, like txt. See if you can alter it. If it's only gthumb (which works here) you may have stumbled over a bug10:23
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pauldaoustokay, here's a question for you RAID gurus: I have two 20 GB discs and a 40 GB disc. Is it possible to use the md software RAID driver to get a nested RAID 1+0 thingy going on?10:23
voraistosDr_willis: system->preferences->mouse . would be cool if they fixed that on dapper10:23
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robertldelmar. ok.10:23
pauldaoustspecifically, I'm looking to stripe the two smaller discs and then mirror them onto the larger disc.10:23
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robertldelmar, if it doesn't work try the strace... is it installed system wide? installed as root as a deb or make install?10:24
pauldaoustwait, I'm bass-ackwards. I need a RAID 0+1 setup10:24
Abountunickrud: let me check (if so that would be the second bug today, not bad for my first day on ubuntu)10:25
Skwid_anyone got a good fstab link ?10:25
robertl/etc/fstab =)10:25
delmarrobertj, ok same as before with 6881 only the new port.. when i checked before.. i transposed two numbers hence why i couldnt find the port listening :P10:26
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Skwid_robertj: a help link, with all the options and stuff10:26
delmarrobertj, so im getting the same results.. tcp listen.. udp not10:26
Calgar__anyone have any ideas why nslookup is resolving the ubuntu archives as 1.0.0.0? i think its my router, but i have no idea what to do about it, anyone got any ideas please?10:26
delmarrobertj, is that what u get?10:26
pauldaoustAbountu: the one I always use is 'man fstab'... I find it has most of the info I need.10:26
robertldelmar, checking...10:26
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Abountupauldaoust: it's not me who asked about fstab, thx anyway ;-)10:27
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Skwid_pauldaoust: ok thx10:27
pauldaoustAbountu: oop, sorry :S10:27
nickruddon't we all love the tab-completion demon :)10:28
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pauldaoustnickrud: naw, can't blame it on tab-completion; I just wasn't concentrating :)10:28
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Trip348Hi, what is the ext3 file system? Can ubuntu be installed on Fat32 or does it have to be ext3?10:28
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paganiniHi guys10:28
paganiniI have a kind of weire network interface question10:29
robertldelmar, both TCP and UDP...high port ranges... anyway is the app installed sys wide?10:29
AbountuTrip348: I dont' think ubuntu will run easily on FAT10:29
nickrudTrip348, absolutely not the fat32, it doesn't handle file permissions.10:29
paganiniMy ubuntu box is on a windows network, so I have samba installed to access their shared folders and to share folders with them10:29
Trip348okay10:29
pauldaoustTrip348: I guess Ubuntu could conceivably be installed on FAT32, but it'd be a nightmare if it were. ext3 is just ext2 (the standard Linux filesystem) with journalling, which helps Linux figure out what went wrong in the event of a file write error.10:29
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delmarrobertj, yeah i stuck it in /usr/share/azureus10:29
Trip348so the linux partition can't be read by windows10:29
delmarrobertj, so you have LISTEN on both tcp and udp?10:30
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AbountuTrip348: if you want to try ubuntu before installing it, try the live cd10:30
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paganiniWhen I go to places -> network servers to use the built-in network browser, sometimes (not always) I get a box that says "you must log in to access <my internal IP address> on MSHOME."10:30
nickrudTrip348, sure it can, there's a program called e2explore, and there's also an installable filesystem driver for ext3 on windows10:30
paganiniAnd it asks for my password10:30
delmarrobertl, i get lots of stuff like this in the logs... [8:28:55.760]  {peer} Peer connection closed: failed to establish outgoing connection: select registration: channel is closed;   etc etc10:30
pauldaoustTrip348: ext2 and ext3 can, with a lovely Windows filesystem driver that works great (although it completely ignores access permissions, so any Windows user can read/modify any file on the Linux partition)10:30
paganiniNo matter what I type there, it keeps coming back and won't let me continue10:30
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Trip348great10:30
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pauldaoustTrip348: forget where you can get the driver though; one sec10:30
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levanderWhat the hell is the deal with all the xorg packages getting updates in breezy?10:31
robertldelmar, for kicks try installing it in your home dir as your plain old user self and then just call it from the cli with10:31
paganiniBut, if I click cancel, it pops up the dialogue that asks for hte password to unlock my keyring. When I thpe that in, everything is fine.10:31
delmarpauldaoust, yeah i had that driver.. there is evena 64bit one around10:31
levanderI've never seen so many packages getting updates10:31
paganinisoop__, what is that "you must log in" box, where does it come from, and why does it only appear SOMETIMES?10:31
robertldelmar, /home/delmar/azureus/azureus10:31
robertldelmar, /home/delmar/azureus/azureus &10:31
Trip348how much space do I need for the ubuntu install, I have about 7GB cleared in the end of my disk.10:31
JDahlI have some odd Gnome problems in Dapper: Gnome sessions never starts the taskbar or show any menus. I tried the obvious things such as wiping config files, but nothing helps.   /var/log/gdm complains about wacom, which I don't use and never installed10:31
pauldaoustTrip348: http://www.fs-driver.org/ -- I think that's the one I had success with10:31
robertlthe & will shove it in the background.10:31
levanderTrip348: 7GB is plenty, make sure to make a swap partition10:31
Trip348pauldaoust: thank you10:31
delmarrobertj, k10:31
nickrudTrip348, that's plenty to check out ubuntu, you only really need about 2 GB10:32
pauldaoustTrip348: no prob!10:32
Trip348okay10:32
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robertldelmar, not using a deb right?10:32
Abountunickrud: it's not working for any file10:32
robertldelmar, tar.gz?10:32
pauldaoustso, hozzaboutit? anyone had experience with software RAID 0+1 before?10:32
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levanderNobody knows why every single xorg package just got an update in breezy?  I hate having to update X cause it scares me something's going to go wrong and I'll have to reconfigure X.10:32
Skwid_in my fstab i have, iocharset=utf810:32
Skwid_what would i need for iso ?10:33
delmarrobertj, yeah was the .tar.gz from SF10:33
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sorush20when dapper comes out i'm not upgrading.. cause my printer will not work.. as i@m loosing my hotplug system. I need the system to upload the firmware to the printer everytime ubunt boots..10:33
Skwid_ISO-8859-1 ??10:33
needlezYES!!!10:33
needlezIT WORKED!!!10:33
robertldelmar, cool.. me too.10:33
pauldaoustlevander: didn't check the changelog today, myself; haven't ever had to reconfigure Xorg though.10:33
needlezi love linux..10:33
TheSteveMonkeywhat is the "support" lifetime for ubuntu dists for security fixes?10:33
bronanyone know of a good firefox plugin (for 1.5) to clear the location field?  diggler used to be good for that, but the latest has removed that feature (as far as I can tell)  :(10:33
Snow_Shelterwhy is my ld having problems? "/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../libc.so when searching for -lc"10:33
pauldaoustlevander: (at least, not within the Dapper testing cycle)10:33
nickrudAbountu, then I have no clue, except to reiterate that I was ready to throw away this os until I realized I wasn't clicking the circle10:33
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levanderpauldaoust: well, i'm going for it, hate to do it, but...10:33
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Snow_ShelterI'm trying to install wine-0.9.13, and there's no package for x86_64, and it wont compile because of this ld problem10:33
Skwid_please ? :(10:33
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levanderpauldaoust: it's not dapper, it's breezy, must be a security update10:33
Calgar__anyone have any ideas why nslookup is resolving the ubuntu archives as 1.0.0.0? i think its my router, but i have no idea what to do about it, anyone got any ideas please?10:34
needlezsamuli: are you still around?10:34
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robertldelmar, use the beginner setup.10:34
TheSteveMonkeyAnyone?10:34
Trip348Thank you guys, I think I'll get started then and give it a try.10:34
popeyTheSteveMonkey: 3 years, 5 for dapper as i understand it10:34
robertldelmar, I just defaulted everything and it morked.10:34
nickrudTheSteveMonkey, 18 months from release, except dapper, 5 years10:34
popeyoh10:34
pauldaoustlevander: oh. sorry... uh... using the Ubuntu update manager, you can see the changelog for each package, and it should tell you what it's modifying. Sometimes it even works!10:34
levanderCalgar__: you do 'nslookup archives.ubuntu.com' and get back 1.0.0.0?10:34
delmarrobertj, err. it doesn't ask me for setup.. because it's already setup.. the setup files are in /home/delmar/.azureus10:34
Abountunickrud: he he he ... it's not that desperate I can always do an "open with"10:34
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robertldelmar, heh.10:35
delmarrobertj, ill blow it away and start again :P10:35
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needlezcan anyone here give me a list of programs that are similar to their windows version. do you understand? for instance MSN on windows is aMSN or Gaim on linux (i think) i need a list of stuff like that10:35
needlezplease.10:35
JDahlit's very strange - indeed there is a "wacom" tablet PC inputdevice in my xorg.conf, but I don't know how or when that got added10:35
pauldaoustneedles: gosh, there are so many. You'd be best off searching http://www.ubuntuforums.org for something like that.10:35
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astriskmanishcan any one tel me how to install kde on ubuntu10:36
needlezget Kubuntu10:36
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pauldaoustneedlez: sorry, that last msg was meant for you, but I typed 'needles' instead of 'needlez'10:36
delmarrobertj, did u download or install anything to do with java or just instaled azareus as is... ?10:36
Abountunew question.... firefox in synaptic (and on the system) is version 1.0.8 and mozilla has released version 1.5.* I guess, is that normal? can I get the new one?10:36
samulineedlez, yeah.10:36
hastesaverastriskmanish, get the package "kubuntu-desktop"10:36
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Calgar__levander: thats what happend before, now i am getting: ** server can't find archives.ubuntu.com: SERVFAIL10:36
popeyneedlez: http://hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/LinuxAdvocacy shows comparisons of windows and linux apps10:36
delmarrobertj, i didn't want to mess up the already installed java stuff so left it alone.10:36
robertldelmar, i had java installed way before azureus.10:36
JDahlastriskmanish, if you already have ubuntu installed, you just install kubuntu-desktop. Then there's no need to get kubuntu10:36
needlezpauldaoust: its ok i understood10:36
pauldaoust:)10:37
delmarrobertj, oh? did u install it manually or?10:37
samuliastriskmanish, get either package kde-core, kde or kubuntu-desktop with aptitude (if you want to easily remove it in case you don't like it)10:37
astriskmanishit gives some error message10:37
TheSteveMonkeypopey why is dapper 5 years10:37
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nickrud!ff1.510:37
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:37
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kbrooksEasyUbuntu "It's all new!" 3 has been released!10:37
kbrooksThe EasyUbuntu Team is pleased to present EasyUbuntu 3.10:37
kbrooksEasyUbuntu 3 is the culmination of 6 months of hard work which will bring a tool to the new Ubuntu user. With no prior Linux experiance, this tool will let you install commonly requested tweaks, and a selection of restricted codecs.10:37
kbrooksThere have been a few notable changes in EasyUbuntu 3: Dapper is supported (but EasyUbuntu is still compatible with Breezy), EasyUbuntu 3 is now written in Python, and many bugs have been squashed. Some of the applications that you can install are (depending on architecture) Codecs, Flash, Java and Skype.10:37
kbrooksYou can download, install and run EasyUbuntu 3 with the instructions on the "Get EasyUbuntu" page (at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html), provided that you use this URL: http://www.robotgeek.org/eu/easyubuntu-3.0.tar.gz instead of the old URL.10:37
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delmarrobertj, cuz Openoffice needs java etc so i knew it was already installed... and i didnt want to isntall any java stuff manually cuz i dont want OpenOffice to break :P10:37
nickrud!paste10:37
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL10:37
nickrud:)10:37
popeyTheSteveMonkey: because they decided it would be a good idea to have a long term support release10:37
robertldelmar, I used the java.com manual install but i believe breezy has the packages and for sure dapper does. I think you need to point to multiverse to get them.10:37
kbrooksnickrud: i couldnt put it in a pastebin10:38
Abountuuboto: thanks, I'll try it10:38
TheSteveMonkeypopey is dapper the latest?10:38
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nickrudkbrooks, a joke :)10:38
popeyTheSteveMonkey: out on 1st june10:38
kbrooksnickrud: vertical scrollbars10:38
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TheSteveMonkeypopey cool thanks10:38
popeynp10:38
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delmarrobertj, hrm. well azureus wouldnt even run if i didnt have it but... i can't help wondering if that is the problem.10:38
astriskmanishit give the following error msg...10:39
astriskmanishReading package lists... Done10:39
astriskmanishBuilding dependency tree... Done10:39
astriskmanishW: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:39
astriskmanishW: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:39
astriskmanishW: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:39
astriskmanishW: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:39
astriskmanishW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:39
Calgar__levander?10:39
astriskmanishE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop10:39
needlezsamuli: do you have a list of programs for linux that is like a comparison chart for windows programs?10:39
nickrudastriskmanish, sudo apt-get update10:39
popeyneedlez: I just pasted one10:39
needlezoh!10:39
needlezmy bad10:39
Jowiubotu: tell astriskmanish about pastebin10:39
popeyneedlez:  http://hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/LinuxAdvocacy10:39
erUSULastriskmanish: do not aste here please. use pastebin see topic10:40
popeyneedlez: scroll down on that page10:40
delmarJowi, thank you :P10:40
robertldelmar, i think the OO java is self contained... thats a guess but I think it might be close to the truth. OO can run on a machine that can't view java online...10:40
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needlezpopey: thank you :)10:40
astriskmanishok..10:40
popeyno probs10:40
nickrudastriskmanish, if that fails, try removing the in. from in.archive.ubuntu.com , that repo may not be up10:40
samulineedlez, just try to avoid apt-getting kde-programs if you're using ubuntu (gnome)10:40
AlmtyBobis there a way to list all the ports on your system that have services running?10:40
popeyAlmtyBob: nmap10:41
nickrudAlmtyBob, sudo netstat -tlp10:41
delmarrobertj, im gonna re-download Az and check md5 this time10:41
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samulior else you're going to be downloading a lot of libraries you probably don't need.10:41
AlmtyBobthanks10:41
robertlAlmtyBob lsof -i (as root)10:41
astriskmanishafter updating again it says that sudo apt-get update10:41
robertldelmar, ok.10:41
astriskmanishsorry.. its says that...Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop10:42
robertldelmar, try   strace -o [out-file-name]  azureus10:42
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kbrookssamuli: do you concede that kde programs work on gnome10:42
Pasqual#join indymedia10:42
delmarrobertj, ok will do that soon10:42
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jack1who knows which mobile phones work very good with kontact reg. synchronization?10:42
astriskmanishso plz help me what to do??10:42
nickrudastriskmanish, then you probably have some bad sources, if you could put /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10:42
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samulikbrooks, yeah they do.10:43
samulisome of them anyways.10:43
Pasqual#indymedia10:43
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Fu_^^Nichi#jakarta10:43
snowfakedhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is this the right way to go about installing ati drivers?10:43
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ompaulPasqual, /join #channelname10:43
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samulibut I can't see the reasoning getting amarok for gnome for example, because you're downloading and installing 100mb+ worth of stuff with that.10:44
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samuliand it's gonna be slower too.10:44
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samuliand gonna look like grab :)10:44
samulior crap10:44
nickrudsnowfaked, they've been recommending that page here for months10:45
snowfakedok10:45
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samuliI did the way on wiki.10:45
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samulialthought dpkg--reconfigure messes my monitor, so I simply just replaced "ati" with "fglrx" in xorg.conf.10:46
samuliworked like a char,10:46
samulicharm.10:46
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gravesonhow do i manage kde application fonts etc10:46
deus_I got some problems with my 32 bit chroot and my cdrom10:47
deus_it wont mount on chroot/media/cdrom010:47
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deus_i added the option in the fstab but it wont work10:47
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deus_so i cant use mplayer on the cd10:47
astriskmanishnickrud , i didnt get what u r trying to say..10:47
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nickrudastriskmanish, the file /etc/apt/sources.list determines where ubuntu looks for packages. That's what seems to need to be fixed.10:48
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[D] ARKFENIXhello everybody10:49
nickrudastriskmanish, you can show it to me, by opening it with gedit and pasting the contents of the file on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10:49
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delmarrobertj, lol. new wierdness.... unpacked fresh, ran it.. set beginner etc.. hit finish... it hang for a few secs.. then i was able to close... the process is running but no gui or icon up the top or anything...10:49
ezenuanyone familar with tv tuners? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=101079610:50
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[D] ARKFENIXi need help with k3b , i'm trying to burn a DVD but k3b says : "error : couldn't determine size of resulting image file"10:50
deus_somebody said i should copy the fstab for the regular system onto the chroot system is that wise?10:50
Managuezenu: I've had some experience with NTSC tv tuners10:50
robertldelmar, weird magic.10:50
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delmarrobertj, killed process and restarted and it seems ok... testing torrent now10:51
robertlare your sources.list pointing to multiverse?10:51
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ezenuManagu, I am trying to save the video to a file, but my tuner does software encoding, not hardware10:51
dabaRHey. If I connect through a router, I can get to the Net. If I connect to a cable modem, using DHCP, I can get a proper IP address, but can not resolve DNS. Also, if I try pinging by IP address, I get an error message: connect: network is unreachable. How can I fix this?10:51
needlezdoes anyone know how to install the newest firefox? i downloaded the thingy, but i dont know what to do next.10:51
robertldelmar, cool... (makes warding sign in the air)10:51
dabaR!ff1.510:51
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:51
robertlneedlez, what exactly is a thingie? =)10:52
Managuezenu: If you're the person who made the post you refer to, I'm not sure how to help.  MythTV was the first application I found that did a good job recording video and audio off of my BT878 based card10:52
needlezthe .tar.gz file or whatever it was.10:52
robertla .deb thingie or a tar.gz thingie?10:52
robertloh. ok.10:52
robertlneedlez, unpack it.10:53
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nickrud!ff1.510:53
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:53
robertlneedlez,  tar -xzvf firefox <hit tab>10:53
ezenuManagu, yeah, that's me... If only I would've bought a hardware encoding tv tuner for $20 more, I wouldn't have had the problem10:53
nickrudneedlez, that wiki page above will help you integrate 1.5 into ubuntu well10:53
robertlneedlez,  ever install anything from the cli before?10:53
Managuezenu: have a particular application in mind?10:53
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needleznope. this is the first time using linux10:53
astriskmanishnickrud i have send u that..10:54
robertlneedlez, cool.10:54
robertlmaybe follow nickrud's link10:54
robertlor unpack it in your home dir.10:54
needlezthats probably what i have to do.10:54
needlezlol10:54
gnomefreakdont unpack it in home10:54
nickrudastriskmanish, could you give me the link?10:54
gnomefreakunpack it in /opt10:54
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robertlneedlez, we all start somewhere.10:55
ezenuManagu, All I want to do is save video to a file. I can use tvtime to view TV easily. But it doesn't save. And mythTV is too complicated I think10:55
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Managuezenu: all I can offer are thoughts, not fully formed solutions.  There was a package called "vcr" that claimed to be able to record video from V4L interfaces.  It's quite possible that "mencoder", from the mplayer package can be coaxed into encoding video in real time10:55
Kr0ntabsup peepz10:55
needlezgnomefreak: so that file i downloaded from the firefoz site, i just unpack everything in it to the /opt directory and everything will be good? or is there more to do after that?10:55
deus_somebody said i should copy the fstab for the regular system onto the chroot system is that wise?10:56
ezenuManagu, ok thanks. i'll look those up10:56
Kr0ntabdeus_, you dont have to...10:56
Managuezenu: also, "apt-cache search "video capture"" turns up a few packages10:56
gnomefreakneedlez: read the wiki that nickrud sent you theres a few steps you must do just download it and copy and paste the commands10:57
gnomefreakneedlez: the tar command it gives will unpack it in /opt/ for you ;)10:57
deus_Kr0ntab: well, i added the regular /media/cdrom0  /chroot/media/cdrom0 but the chroot system cant see the files on the cdrom10:57
robertlor needlez, /usr/local =) i say follow the wiki instructions too.10:57
astriskmanishnickrud , here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1393410:57
Kr0ntaboic what yer trying to do10:57
dabaRHey. If I connect through a router, I can get to the Net. If I connect to a cable modem, using DHCP, I can get a proper IP address, but can not resolve DNS. Also, if I try pinging by IP address, I get an error message: connect: network is unreachable. How can I fix this?10:57
delmarrobertj, no good. doint strace now.10:58
Kr0ntabyou'll need to make sure that you have appropriate /dev files for your cdrom...10:58
robertldelmar, ok.10:58
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ManagudabaR: might be that you've got firestarter loaded and it's being a bit overzealous.  Try opening it up and turning your firewall off10:58
dabaRI have no firestarter installed.10:59
dabaRiptables are empty, and my ipmasq is off.10:59
delmarrobertj, ill check the wiki for anything about manual java install or anything java related.10:59
dabaRPlus it all works on the same, dhcp protocol, but with a router.10:59
robertldabaR,  what does  cat /etc/resolv.conf  show?10:59
dabaRI power cycled everything.10:59
Kr0ntabyou don't have to use an fstab to mount the cdrom...  you can issue a mount command and do the same thing... provided you have a device file... and an emnpty directory for a mount point10:59
JowidabaR: is the computer connected straight to the cable modem or do you have something inbetween?10:59
nickrudastriskmanish, oookkk. You are going to have to replace those completely, there's a good set at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604710:59
dabaRif directly, it does not ping, if through router, I am here.10:59
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dabaRhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13935 is resolv.conf. Only that last line may be a clue...11:01
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acid-triphow do i set up a loopback interface?11:01
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JowidabaR: your nameservers are wrong.11:01
tomek_hi11:01
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voraistosHow do i know/change wich modules are loaded in my kernel ?11:02
nickrudvoraistos, lsmod11:02
snowfakedanyone had problems connecting with rdesktop? I only get blank screen for a few seconds and then the programs closes11:02
voraistosthx11:02
dabaRJowi: that is when I am connected to the router, so it looks fine here...11:02
dabaR+ it works11:02
JowidabaR: log into your router and see which nameservers are in use in there and put those in your resolv.conf11:02
nickrudvoraistos, remove with rmmod, modprobe to instert (removal doesn't always work)11:02
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tonyyarussoRecommendations for a wireless card to install into a desktop computer for good compatibility?  (Potential dual-booter)11:02
dabaRJowi: sure, I will try that. The thing is that I can not ping out at all. Not even to IP addresses with the modem. That means no DNS resolving will fix it, but I am willingh to try. I will be back.11:03
Kr0ntabsnowfaked, any errors in the console when running rdesktop?11:03
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h3h_timocan anyone help me with installing limewire?11:03
nickrud!limewire11:03
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.11:03
JowidabaR: when connected to the router, you will use the nameservers the router has got from the modem. if you are not using the router, you will not be able to connect to 192.168.0.111:03
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h3h_timothank you11:04
snowfakedKr0ntab: nope11:04
h3h_timo!frostwire11:04
ubotufrostwire is, like, totally, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo11:04
h3h_timois frostwire better than limewire?11:04
robertldelmar, ... I have packages java-common java-gcj-compat11:04
Kr0ntabsnowfaked, I believe rdesktop also does not support microsoft's high encryption setting.  check out the terminal services option to make sure it's using medium encryption or lower11:04
nickrudh3h_timo, feels faster here11:04
dabaRJowi: that is clear.11:04
JowidabaR: (of course, it could be that the cable-modem has that address but it is more likely that the modem has got your public ip address registered instead)11:04
dabaRbrb11:04
h3h_timookay thanks.. do you need java for that?11:04
snowfakedKr0ntab: ok, have to check that11:04
nickrudh3h_timo, yes11:04
robertldelmar, those are ubuntu packages.11:05
Kr0ntabyup... what OS you connecting to?  win2k3?  win2k?  xp?11:05
h3h_timothank you11:05
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nickrud!java11:05
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs11:05
robertldel-mar, join #az-pain  =)11:05
gnosticapexanyone feel like helping a nub? lol11:05
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HfuyEvening all11:06
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acid-triphow do i set up a loopback interface?11:06
HfuyI'm trying to get hibernate/sleep/suspend or whatever to work on a Toshiba Satellite SP1011:06
nickrudgnosticapex, we live for the easy(!) questions :)11:06
HfuyDo I have a hope in hell?11:06
robertlor delmar, join #az-pain11:06
delmarrobertj, what versions?11:06
acid-trip!loopback11:06
ubotusudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso mountpoint/11:06
Kr0ntabacid-trip, add "iface lo inet loopback" and "auto lo" to /etc/network/interfaces11:07
Kr0ntabshoudl already have it11:07
Kr0ntabunless it was removed11:07
gnosticapexheh well, I have a toshiba Satellite L25-S1195, it has an ATi card in it. I know that they made that flgrx or whatever for it and also ATI released drivers, I've got the ATi driver on my USB device, but I dont know the command to access it/run it >.>11:07
nickrud!ati11:08
ubotuati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358911:08
acid-tripKr0ntab, it's already there11:08
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acid-tripbut when i try to connect to my ircd locally11:08
acid-tripit wont work11:08
acid-tripscrew it11:08
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I_Eat_Plastic!mp311:08
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:08
nickrudgnosticapex, that !tati factoid above has the ati info11:08
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nickrudericvw, !ata gnomefreak11:08
Kr0ntabtype ifconfig... do you see an "lo" device?11:08
voraistosnickrud: all i know is i should add module evdev to be loaded with my linux kernel. i dunno what to do (with modprobe, or where the module is/is not, etc....) :'(11:09
voraistoscan u help ?11:09
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gnosticapexIll look at the community post, I already looked at the binaryhowto and it gave me the basic information but Im still having some troubles -.-11:09
gnosticapexif I could figure out how to access my USB device and run off of it, then I have the ati driver there >.>11:09
astriskmanishnickrud, again it says that u have to run apt-get update to fix these problem11:10
nickrudvoraistos, you should already have it: lsmod | grep evdev , it should say it's there11:10
Kr0ntabsnowfaked, did that work?11:10
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nickrudastriskmanish, did you replace the original, useless /etc/apt/sources.list with the one from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/972 ?11:11
Managutonyyarusso: I've not had much problem with any of the mass-marketed 802.11g wireless cards, once I've gotten them set up with ndiswrapper.  There is something to be said about using a card with good linux support, though.  Atheros-chipset based cards seem to have the best support.11:11
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voraistosnickrud: with lsmod i dont see it. sorry i an complete noob. no idea what i should do11:11
h3h_timookay, i installed frostwire.. but i already had java installed, but it says that i dont11:11
snowfakedKr0ntab: i don't have access to that windows machine yet so i don't know. will try that when i can first access it with windows11:11
nickrudvoraistos, sudo modprobe evdev11:11
tonyyarussoManagu: Okay.11:11
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gnosticapexthere a command thatll list off your kernel version?11:11
Kr0ntab:-)11:11
RandolphCartergnosticapex: uname -a11:11
nickrudh3h_timo, how'd you install java?11:12
tonyyarussoIs there a GUI tool for metric-English unit conversion?11:12
salahhi. my ubuntu 5.10 server have problems with outgoing connections. all connections in to it (when I connect to ssh etc) works fine, but when I use apt-get or ping or anything else that use outgoing network, it won't work. any ideas why?11:12
RandolphCartergnosticapex: uname -r just for the kernel release11:12
h3h_timoummm... let me remember11:12
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Kr0ntabsnowfaked, what version of windows is it running?11:12
h3h_timoumm.. i downloaded it and converted it to a deb package.. and then installed it like that.. it was from the unoffical ubuntu howto i think11:12
voraistosnickrud: oops, no with your comand i found it. i am noob and i have bad eyes lol11:12
nickrudh3h_timo, then try sudo update-alternatives --config java , that should be the final step11:13
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h3h_timothanks11:13
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h3h_timoyou know u guys are genius's?11:13
astriskmanishnickrud, yes i have replaced...11:13
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nickrudastriskmanish, to make sure, type the following in a terminal: cat /etc/apt/sources.list , are they the same as the wiki?11:14
h3h_timoi am still getting the error though11:14
snowfakedKr0ntab: xp11:14
nickrudh3h_timo, what does java -version say?11:14
h3h_timojust a sec11:15
h3h_timojava version "1.4.2"11:15
h3h_timogij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)11:15
h3h_timoCopyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.11:15
h3h_timoThis is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO11:15
h3h_timowarranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.11:15
h3h_timobrad@ubuntu:~/Desktop$11:15
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nickrudh3h_timo, you didn't choose the right java, then. Look for the one that says sun (should be 3rd)11:15
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h3h_timoi have no third11:16
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gnosticapexhmm, where can i get fglrx for ubuntu, linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686 >.>11:16
dabaRHi again. The DNS entries get set properly by ifup. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13936 is what I get when I ping by IP address.11:16
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needlezi think my firefox download has hung...11:16
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HfuyHmm.11:17
HfuyIt'll seem to put it to sleep - pulsing power light - but not wake up.11:17
Zane42exit11:17
tedd_How can I check which version of Ubuntu I'm running?11:17
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brokengundudes11:18
crimsuntedd_: lsb_release -r11:18
brokenguni added some repositories11:18
tedd_perfect11:18
DarkPathhmm... I'm having a problem with the Ubuntu LiveCDs, both Dapper and Breezy, on my new desktop. Bit of a graphical glitch.11:18
tedd_thanks crimsun11:18
LinuxJonestedd, or cat /etc/issue11:18
ManagudabaR: probably a dead end, but is ping still setuid root on your machine?11:18
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DarkPaththe X server starts, and the mouse works fine, as does the sound... but then when GDM/Gnome tries to start up, I just get this messed up graphic in the center of my screen11:19
tckanyone can help me with a ax550 vga card?11:19
DarkPathand then nothing loads11:19
dabaRManagu: I ping fine when I am connected through the router.11:19
brokengunand now when i run "apt-get upate" i get a 404 error on some of he packages11:19
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DarkPathanyone have any ideas?11:19
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harisundHello everyone !11:19
needlezdoes anyone know why it says "you do not have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/opt""?11:19
nickrudh3h_timo, apt-cache policy sun-jre1.5 , that should show installed if you did the steps right11:19
astriskmanishnickrud, yes both r same11:19
harisundneedlez are you prefixing your commands with 'sudo'11:19
brokengunneedlez: sudo and then the command11:19
dabaRneedlez: cause you are not the owner of the folder.11:19
h3h_timok11:19
nickrudastriskmanish, then sudo apt-get update11:19
ManagudabaR: perhaps post the results of "ifconfig" when you connect directly?11:19
needlezwait, should i be doing all this from terminal?11:19
nickrudastriskmanish, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:19
samuliplease, use aptitude instead of apt-get11:20
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harisundsamuli, do you see any particular difference for your choice? how do they affect in general?11:20
astriskmanishok.. i m updating it then will go for kubuntu-desktop11:20
brokenguni am getting 404 errors on some of my apt-get stuff when i run "sudo apt-get update" what do i need to do?11:20
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samuliharisund, with aptitude you can just as easily remove the whole thing if you don't like it.11:20
harisundsamuli: ah yes you make a good point there..11:21
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harisundsamuli, no -- switches eh?11:21
dabaRttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13938 there is ifconfig, Managu11:21
samuliwith apt-get you end up just removing the meta-package 'kubuntu-desktop' which is really nothing.11:21
brokengunanyone, please?11:21
samulino switches or options needed.11:21
nickrudastriskmanish, if you were reading, samuli makes a good point: when you install kubuntu-desktop, do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop. To heck with conventions11:21
tckanyone can help me with a ax550 vga card?11:22
harisundbrokengun, there are a couple of things you could do. Maybe the sites are slow to connect or not up, so you could try a while later.11:22
brokengunok11:22
brokengunwell what happens in the event that they aren't up?11:22
harisundbrokengun, or try posting the output of /etc/apt/sources.list on pasteboard or something.. i11:22
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brokenguncause i dont think they are11:22
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dabaRMy router gets a different IP address from the DHCP on the modem:  24.79.94.252, and I got this same IP on the comp yesterday when I tried this.11:23
snowfakedKr0ntab: well, restarting the winxp machine helped, it was hanged ;)11:23
ManagudabaR: yeah, the dhcp server probably hands out IP addresses by mac address11:23
Kr0ntabha  there ya go11:23
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astriskmanishnickrude, after giving the command sudo apt-get update i got the folowing error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1393911:24
brokengunharisund: what is a pasteboard?11:24
needlezsamuli: can you help me out with some terminal commands?11:24
JowidabaR: are your router set up to give a static ip for the computer?11:24
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needlezcan anyone help me with some terminal commands?11:24
harisundubotu tell brokengun about pasteboard11:24
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Managuneedlez: to do what?11:25
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harisundubotu tell brokengun about paste11:25
Traepastebin11:25
JowidabaR: or, if you are using firestarter, have you enabled dhcp there (also write in the nameservers in the DNS tab)11:25
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needlezwell i downloaded the new firefox to my desktop by accident, and im trying to follow that guide that someone previously sent me. and the guide says to download the file to /opt/firefox, and i didnt.11:25
needlezim very confused right now..11:26
harisundneedlez, you don't need to download it into /opt11:26
nickrudastriskmanish, you didn't update the sources properly. type in a terminal gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" , delete what's there, and cut and paste the sources from the pastebin and save. Then update again11:26
astriskmanishand after giving sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop i got..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1394011:26
harisundWherever you downloaded, it you can copy to /opt.11:26
h3h_timoalright i got frostwire installed, thanks to anyone who helped me11:26
JowidabaR: it is normal that you get a new ip address each time you connect with the modem. nothing strange in that11:26
needlezoh, ok. well, lets give it a try then11:26
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harisundneedlez, which page are you referring to?11:26
nickrudastriskmanish, you're only seeing the updates, not the other stuff11:26
samulineedlez, You might want to do 'gksudo nautilus' to easily move files around and stuff.11:27
dabaRJowi: not on cable11:27
harisundneedlez are you following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion ??11:27
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dabaRJowi: I work tech support for this.11:27
needlezharisund: yes, well i am trying to11:27
dabaRit is a setting euither at the ISP, or somehwere in the OS>11:27
samulione thing that annoys me with firefox is that there's no option to where download each individual file.11:27
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harisundsamuli, there is?11:28
JowidabaR: well, it is not up to you or your router or your modem. it's your ISP that give you the public ip address. if you get different ones, it is them doing it.11:28
samuliharisund, Is there? I haven't found it.11:28
harisundneedlez do you want to go over it step by step?11:28
needlezplease?11:28
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harisundsamuli which version of firefox are you using?11:28
samuliharisund, 1.511:28
dabaRJowi: agreed11:28
harisundneedlez so I am asuming you are using the version of 1.05 that ships default ith breezy?11:28
needlezyes11:29
harisundsamuli: Edit->Preferences->Downloads11:29
sulanany ACPI-subsystem gurus in here interrested for a bug-report on brightness control on HP NC6000? (Flight 6 & 7, works in Breezy)11:29
samuliharisund, I know that.11:29
harisundok needlez, so you will first navigate to the Firefox homepage and download the latest version right?11:29
brokengunharisund: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1394111:29
astriskmanishnickrud, i ahve done the same.. and my update is downloading n working..11:29
samuliI mean there's no option to choose individual to somewhere else than what you set up in preferences.11:29
brokengunthat is the output of /etc/apt/sources.list for me11:29
needlezharisund, yes, it has been downloaded to my desktop11:29
ManagudabaR: not having a loopback interface is suspicious, but it shouldn't cause the problems you're suggesting.  "sudo iptables -L"?11:29
Kr0ntabup to 1.08 now... after patches..11:29
nickrudastriskmanish, great11:29
JowidabaR: your nameservers should not change very often though. it is usually safe to put them into firestarter or resolv.conf instead of 192.168.0.111:29
harisundneedlez, are you sure about that? can you see it on your desktop?11:30
needlezyes i can11:30
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harisundsamuli: Ah yes I get you. Either everything goes into one place, or every time it is asked.11:31
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harisundbrokengun any reason you are using hoary repositories?11:31
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brokenguni dunno11:31
brokengunthat is what the guide said11:31
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harisundAh that could be a problem.11:32
samuliharisund, yes. There should be like default _and_ an option to save it somewhere else.11:32
decoy_Hi everybody! Can I add a DVD-iso to apt-get sources? :)11:32
brokengunwhere can i get the correct sources for sources.list?11:32
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gnosticapexI need to figure out a) where to get fglrx for a 2.5.12-9.686 kernel (unsure of the ATI card, whichever is standard for the Toshiba Satellite L25-S1195) and b) need to find a way to load it, preferably a USB flashstick, but I don't know how to access it. >.>11:32
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gnosticapex9-686*11:32
JinRohHello I got this error FATAL: Error inserting spca5xx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-22-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/usb/media/spca5xx.ko): Invalid module format - When trying to install Creative NX WEbcam pro following thishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284 <--- PLease help me11:33
Managudecoy_:  as in, an .iso file?11:33
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harisundcould someone please help brokengun get a correct sources.list for dapper?11:33
brokengunwoah11:33
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brokenguni am not running dapper though11:33
nickrud!repos11:34
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:34
harisundbrokengun sorry .. i meant breezy.. did you get a link?11:34
decoy_Managu, Yes! I dont have a DVD-ROM drive, but I have a dvd iso on my hdd with packages. I'd like to upgrade my system from that dvd-iso... i can mount it so how can i add it to sources.list?11:34
brokenguni did11:34
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Managudecoy_: oh, good question.  Let me check something11:34
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decoy_:)11:35
harisundbrokengun get your repos that way, and then paste that as is into your /etc/apt/sources.list file the way you did earlier. Try the 'apt-get update' again.11:35
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brokengunok hold on a minute11:35
brokenguni gotta get the line numbers out of it11:36
Managudecoy_: "man apt-cdrom"11:36
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dbernar1And it works now. Weird.11:36
PrimoTurboWhat is the default login for xubuntu under the Dapper 6.06 LiveCD?11:37
harisundbrokengun yes make sure there are no line numbers.11:37
gnosticapex!ati11:37
ubotuhmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358911:37
NoUsePrimoTurbo ubuntu: no password11:37
PrimoTurbothanks11:37
brokengunharisund, i think it is working11:37
brokengunwait11:37
brokengunE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:38
brokengunE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?11:38
brokenguni get that11:38
PrimoTurboNoUse: It worked thank you11:38
harisundbrokengun, make sure Synaptic is not running.11:38
harisundbrokengun also make sure you have no other command line opne with any of dpkg, aptitude or apt-get currently executing.11:38
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brokengunalright i closed synaptic and now it works11:38
brokengunthanks a bunch mate :)11:39
decoy_Managu, how should i use it? when i've launched apt-cdrom it asks me to put CD into CD-ROM drive and press ENTER. Then it should mount it and indexed... in fact i don't have physical DVD, i have just an image... what options should i use apt-cdrom picked up an image instead of physical disk? :-)11:39
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Managudecoy_: according to the man page, you would want to do something like "sudo apt-cdrom -d=<mount point>"11:39
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simphello again... how can i install/extract .deb files in ubuntu? i need them for the estonian layout: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77213.html11:39
harisundbrokengun: Sure :)11:39
decoy_Managu! I'm so sorry! :))11:40
decoy_I'm blind!!! :D11:40
Managudecoy_: maybe that'll work ;-)11:40
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samulisimp, to install a deb: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb11:41
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ozen#join /ubuntu-fr11:41
samulithere's a graphical interface to it too.. what's it name..11:41
ozenlol11:41
astriskmanishnickrud, sorry to say but again i got error msg ie http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1394311:41
harisundsamuli does breezy have a gui for installing .deb files?11:41
samulisimp, anyways. You can extract them with archive manager.11:41
ozensynaptik11:41
simpok thank you...11:42
samuliharisund, I'm not sure about breezy, there's one in dapper the very least.11:42
simpi'l give it a try11:42
harisundsimuli yes ok ..11:42
nickrudastriskmanish, there's still something wrong with your sources; paste them again11:42
harisundastriskmanish, that problem occurs when a software looks for anothre dependant sotware, but that required software is from a source that yo udon't have.11:42
JinRohHello, please someone with Creative Webcam NX Pro got it working on Ubuntu? I tried this HOWTO http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284 but it doesn't work, I check lsusb and lsmod and it seems to be ok but /dev/video is not found11:43
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samuliharisund, It's called gdebi in gnome.11:43
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samuliThere's one for kde too.11:43
harisundah ok .. cool.11:43
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ManaguJinRoh: how 'bout /dev/video0 or /dev/video1?11:44
astriskmanishharisund, so how to install the dependencies11:44
samulisimp, did you get that. there's gdebi, graphical interface to install/extract/view .deb's11:44
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harisundastriskmanish, you wlil need to make sure your repositories are complete. Sorry for htis, but you will have to paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file again.11:45
astriskmanishnickrud, these r my sources.list11:45
JinRohManagu, I don't know I think it's the same, but I don't know I don't have experience with webcams in linux so I don't know how could I find the problem11:45
oklinuxI have /home/comptoyou/jre1.5.0_06 how do I enable java ?11:45
JinRoh/dev/video0: No space left on device11:46
astriskmanishharisund, these r my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1394411:46
nickrudastriskmanish, you got the hoary sources11:46
samuli!tell oklinux java11:46
megaman123how can i turn off UTF-811:46
nickrudastriskmanish, type lsb_release -a , if it says breezy, replace those with the breezy repo below11:46
harisundastriskmanish, give me a minute. I will paste you mine.11:46
nickrud!repos11:46
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:46
samulior is it.. about java?11:46
samulimegaman123, in irc?11:47
megaman123no to run VDR11:47
megaman123it says "please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR"11:47
harisundastriskmanish, do this command on your temrinal: 'sudo sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g /etc/apt/sources.list'11:47
astriskmanishnickrud, its says its brezzy11:47
megaman123i guess in the system11:47
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harisundastriskmanish: sudo sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list11:48
nickrudmegaman123, type export LANG="ISO-15589-1" vdr11:48
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nickrudastriskmanish, harisund's is a nice shortcut :)11:49
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megaman123thanks :)11:49
harisundastriskmanish: did you execute that command? Once you do, open up /etc/apt/sources.list and ensure that your repositories point to breezy just to be sure. Then do the 'apt-get update'11:49
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megaman123btw i got my card to run...now on to the next step....running VDR :)11:49
Jowimegaman123: if you want to make the change system wide (utf-8 is good to have, btw). first make sure you have localeconf installed ("sudo apt-get install localeconf"), then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" and you should be able to select what you want.11:50
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harisundnickrud: if you look at it, his repositories are complete for hoary. Don't you agree that apt is really awesome in that a single substitution and you are now up to date?11:50
nickrudharisund, absolutely. You just gotta know sed :)11:51
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astriskmanishharisund, can u tell me how to execute it as i m new to all these stuffs11:51
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harisundok. First open a terminal. Are you comfortable executing commands using the terminal?11:51
harisundOtherwise we can use the GUI if you wish.11:51
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astriskmanishharisund, yes11:51
harisundastriskmanish: What do you prefer?11:52
carlNeed a hand again... how do I do for a mounted FS to be writable for normal users?11:52
byen_Guys need some immediate help/ I was upgrading to dapper and all of a sudden it just stopped at the last point11:52
astriskmanishharisund, terminal11:52
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harisundI'm glad you prefer that.11:52
Mindtzarwhats the command line arguement for killing xserver11:52
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Mindtzarubotu tell Mindtzar about killx11:52
harisundOk (would it be ok if Irefer to you as manish, as it is shorter?) ..11:52
samuliit's pain in the ass to try and walk someone through in a gui-style :P11:53
byen_Please help. My dist upgrade stopped at 98% what should i do?11:53
harisundFirst, samuli: I agree ..11:53
GTroyI've got a torrent coming down, irc, and google...but I can't get any other pages to come up....any idea?11:53
Mindtzaranyone know the command line arguement to kill server?11:53
astriskmanishharisund, yes ofcourse that is my mane11:53
harisundMIndtazr which server?11:53
simpanother question, how can i edit a .conf file in terminal, what was the thing i had to write again?11:53
simpsomething with sudo :P11:53
Mindtzarxserver11:53
Mindtzar:\11:53
GTroysimp try pico11:54
harisundok manish..first, in your terminal type: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:54
GTroy!pico11:54
ubotuGTroy: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:54
GTroy!nano11:54
ubotuGTroy: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:54
harisundGtroy nano11:54
harisund:)11:54
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GTroyheh11:54
Jowisimp: "sudo gedit filename.conf" or "sudo nano filename.conf"11:54
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harisundok Manish, anyway coming back, htis will open the window equivalent (but more powerful) of notepad.11:54
Jowi(or should gksudo be used with gedit maybe?)11:54
astriskmanishya its open in gedit11:54
harisundManish, in that you wlil see a list of entries, which tell Ubuntu where to look.11:54
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Babacomevening room11:55
harisundDo see 'hoary' in among there or 'breezy' ?11:55
Mindtzarhow do you kill xserver :(11:55
harisundevening Babacom (afternoon for me actually)11:55
Traeharisund, just do as<tab>  :)11:55
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Mindtzar/etc/X11/xorg -something?11:55
GazzaKhow do you kill users? :(11:55
Babacomharisund: it's night for me ;)11:55
harisundxserver? Just do 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop'11:55
nickrudGazzaK, put windows on their machines11:55
GazzaKthey already have that nickrud :(11:55
harisundManish, coming back, what did you find?11:55
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nickrudGazzaK, that's just to give you a legit reason11:56
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astriskmanishharisund, ya i think its looking to hoary11:56
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harisundastriskmanish: ok exit gedit and get back to terminal. now execute: sudo sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list11:56
Babacomanyone knows how you turn on spelling checking in gnome-xchat (or how you add the english language if that's what needed?)11:57
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harisundCopy everything after the execute: (starting with sed...) on the command line.11:57
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GTroyhey guys I'm having network problems......my connection seems shaky at best11:57
Satyahi, just installed Ubuntu, it landed me in a command line text-only interface ; any ideas how to start up the GUI ?!11:57
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GTroysatya: try "startx"11:58
SatyaI tried startx11:58
Satyait sats no file /etc/x11/x11:58
Satya*says11:58
astriskmanishharisund, when i executed that nothing has come it just ask for password n then again i come back to command line11:58
Kr0ntabSatya, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop11:58
Satyaok I will try that and get back thanks!11:59
harisundManish. Yes what it did was substitute all occurences of 'hoary' for 'breezy' in that file. Do that 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' to open up gedit with that file again and ensure that it has been indeed changed to breez now.11:59
LinuxJonesSatya: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg select vesa as the video driver and select a moderate screen resolution like 1020 x 76811:59

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