[12:00] <_JECKEL_> doing everything through the terminal window gets a bit annoying
[12:00] <nickrud> merriam, I like a cluttered desktop. It's so like my real life :)
[12:00] <thoreauputic_> _JECKEL_: umm - just edit the menu - takes a few seconds in an editor
[12:00] <pti-seb> hey
[12:00] <nickrud> dorel_, me. tab completion trips me again
[12:00] <pti-seb> I am french
[12:00] <paradizelost> !fr
[12:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:01] <pti-seb> and I don't speak english very well
[12:01] <pti-seb> I have wrote an article
[12:01] <pti-seb> can you tell me if you understand it ?
[12:01] <paradizelost> pti-seb: send a link
[12:01] <pti-seb> http://www.tux-planet.fr/blog/?2006/05/12/78-convertion-de-fichiers-wma-en-mp3-convert-wma-files-to-mp3
[12:01] <pti-seb> the english part is after the french part
[12:02] <pti-seb> :-)
[12:02] <paradizelost> pti-seb: site not loading
[12:02] <paradizelost> or VERY slow
[12:02] <pti-seb> you can see this article also by the fedora-people
[12:02] <_JECKEL_> how does fedora measure up to ubuntu btw?
[12:02] <paradizelost> pti-seb: ubuntu better.
[12:03] <paradizelost> !fedora
[12:03] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[12:03] <thoreauputic_> _JECKEL_: I have a menu entry "manu editor" that opens the menu in my favourite editor
[12:03] <thoreauputic_> s/manu/menu
[12:03] <nickrud> pti-seb, to start with, ubuntu doesn't use yum :)
[12:03] <pti-seb> I say
[12:03] <pti-seb> the article is availible to this link : http://fedoraproject.org/people/
[12:03] <_JECKEL_> ehhh
[12:03] <paradizelost> pti-seb: is there a reason you don't have the script do subdirs?
[12:03] <pti-seb> s/yum/apt-get/g
[12:04] <_JECKEL_> fine I'll switch over to fluxbox. @.@
[12:04] <paradizelost> pti-seb: ahh, it's a bash script
[12:04] <pti-seb> paradizelost, no reason
[12:04] <paradizelost> if you do it in perl it can do subdirs.
[12:04] <paradizelost> :D
[12:04] <paradizelost> easily
[12:04] <pti-seb> I don't like perl, sorry
[12:04] <pti-seb> you understand my english article ????
[12:04] <orbish> hello everyone, i'm new and have a question
[12:05] <Protocol1> ah shucks...ran out of lime soda
[12:05] <thoreauputic_> !ask
[12:05] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[12:05] <paradizelost> pti-seb: it's understandable,  i understand the code better than the article
[12:05] <orbish> i installed ubuntu hoary from an ISO i burned a few months back
[12:05] <paradizelost> Protocol1: replace it with beer next time
[12:05] <orbish> is upgrading to breezy important?
[12:05] <paradizelost> orbish: upgrade to breezy or dapper....
[12:05] <thoreauputic_> orbish: yes, hoary is getting pretty old now
[12:05] <pti-seb> paradizelost, ok
[12:05] <orbish> what's the best way of going about that
[12:05] <Protocol1> paradizelost, sorry been clean for nine months aint going back
[12:05] <apol> orbish: it is important, but perhaps you could move to dapper instead...
[12:05] <paradizelost> pti-seb: but that's because i nitpick minor english misusings
[12:06] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[12:06] <paradizelost> !tell orbish about upgrade
[12:06] <thoreauputic_> orbish: if you want dapper you would need to use a CD unless you want to do two upgrades
[12:06] <orbish> sigh, i was hoping for a command of some sort
[12:06] <paradizelost> Protocol1: you do know that beer is healthier than pop right?  except for the following drunkenness
[12:07] <thoreauputic_> orbish: change your sources from hoary to breezy, update, then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:07] <paradizelost> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:07] <paradizelost> then
[12:07] <pruebas_> hi! is there a command to kill all processes of a specific user?
[12:07] <crimsun> !xgl
[12:07] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[12:07] <thoreauputic_> orbish: the URL paradizelost gave tells you about it
[12:07] <paradizelost> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades\
[12:08] <paradizelost> minus the \
[12:08] <orbish> thanks, i'm looking into it now
[12:08] <thoreauputic_> :)
[12:08] <Protocol1> paradizelost, yeah....but water or juice will have to do
[12:09] <ruggy> coffee
[12:09] <paradizelost> hey, can anyone think of a downside to using carpet cleaner that has a coupon on it that expires 1/31/86?
[12:09] <paradizelost> my grandpa gave me a can that was under his sink....
[12:09] <paradizelost> i know offtopic.
[12:09] <apol> paradizelost: 86?????
[12:09] <paradizelost> yep
[12:09] <paradizelost> it's older than my little brother.
[12:09] <idefix> I just looked at whatever I installed using the repos and I see that it is a hell of a lot.. are any of them recursive or something?
[12:09] <steveire> Is it common to put your home folder in a separate partition?
[12:10] <paradizelost> steveire: usually, yes i do
[12:10] <bimberi> steveire: yes
[12:10] <paradizelost> idefix: what did you install?
[12:10] <Jowi> steveire: absoluteley.
[12:10] <idefix> paradizelost, well I'm sure I didn't select so many (1135)
[12:10] <steveire> And you do that manually? it's common to have a separate boot partition too?
[12:10] <paradizelost> steveire: prevents you from losing your data when you have to format
[12:10] <thoreauputic_> idefix: those are the dependencies, libraries etc
[12:10] <paradizelost> steveire: you can do it w/ the installer
[12:11] <paradizelost> steveire: i also usually use a separate DISK
[12:11] <paradizelost> because if the primary disk goes, and you had the data  on a separate partition, you still lose the partition
[12:11] <thoreauputic_> idefix: when you install apps you usually get a bunch of smaller packages with it
[12:12] <steveire> Indeed. So If I have a home folder already on a partition, I can tell the installer that it's there, and not to make a new one? Or do I let it make a new one, and then replace it with my mounted partition?
[12:12] <Jowi> steveire: because if your system get a hang-over one day and decide to stay in bed taking a break instead of working, you can replace it and still keep your user files intact :)
[12:12] <paradizelost> idefix: for example, kubuntu-desktop installs about 300MB worth of small packages
[12:12] <paradizelost> steveire: yes, during the install, you simply do a manual partitioning
[12:12] <crueldog> I need help about printers
[12:12] <paradizelost> !printers
[12:12] <ubotu> somebody said printers was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[12:13] <paradizelost> !ask
[12:13] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[12:13] <Jowi> !cups
[12:13] <ubotu> well, cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[12:13] <Jowi> ah, that was he same link :)
[12:13] <crueldog> lol
[12:13] <crueldog> no
[12:13] <steveire> And if I have a separate boot partition, Is that where my kernels are kept? (I'm planning on installing multiple distros, or at least having the option to)
[12:13] <paradizelost> steveire: as long as you mount it at /boot
[12:13] <crueldog> i serioustl;y need help... i cant get to make my printer print a page
[12:13] <paradizelost> steveire: yes, that's where the kernels are kept
[12:14] <paradizelost> crueldog: what type of printer is it? might help to have that info
[12:14] <Jowi> crueldog: best way is to go to linuxprinting.org and see if there is an updated driver for your printer
[12:14] <paradizelost> !tell crueldog about ask
[12:14] <crueldog> ...
[12:14] <steveire> I currently have the option of using three ubuntu linux kernels at boot. Is that really neccessary, or can I remove the oldest two?
[12:14] <mumbles> are there any people here that could help me to get my dlink dw=-g650+ workign ?
[12:15] <paradizelost> steveire: the reason they do that is in case there is a messup and the new kernel doesn't boot.
[12:15] <mumbles> when ubuntu isent finding any pcimcia cards and widnows is
[12:15] <paradizelost> if the new kernel boots, you can probably get rid of the old ones
[12:15] <steveire> OK, cool
[12:15] <paradizelost> mumbles: do you have your pcmcia drivers loaded?
[12:15] <orbish> i'm just downloading 6.06, instead of 5.10... is it really buggy?
[12:15] <mumbles> erm... possabley not
[12:15] <apol> orbish: its fine
[12:15] <paradizelost> orbish: just make sure your getting flight 7
[12:16] <orbish> flight 7?
[12:16] <crueldog> the driver isnt online
[12:16] <paradizelost> the latest  version
[12:16] <thoreauputic_> orbish: pretty stable now from what I hear
[12:16] <crueldog> HP deskjet 540
[12:16] <paradizelost> crueldog: gnome or kde?
[12:16] <mumbles> paradizelost - will the package manager get them ?
[12:16] <steveire> If I want to make a new boot partition, do I have to remove my current Ubuntu installation, and start again, telling the installer to use the boot partition?
[12:16] <paradizelost> crueldog: have you installed the printer?
[12:16] <paradizelost> !pcmcia
[12:16] <ubotu> paradizelost: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:16] <paradizelost> !laptop
[12:16] <ubotu> I guess laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[12:17] <paradizelost> crueldog: or just plugged it in?
[12:17] <crueldog> i plugged
[12:17] <steveire> Thanks for the help, paradizelost, I hope my questions aren't too stupid. I tend to ask a lot of questions though...
[12:17] <crueldog> i cant install
[12:17] <thoreauputic_> grr... no irssi themes fit my setup
[12:17] <crueldog> nthe driver isnt there!
[12:17] <paradizelost> crueldog: system->administration->printing
[12:17] <amphi> steveire: or backup, repartition, and restore
[12:17] <crueldog> i know
[12:17] <crueldog> but
[12:17] <crueldog> the driver isnt there
[12:18] <steveire> amphi: Won't that restore /boot as it is in my current set up?
[12:18] <ompaul> yaaa he returns
[12:18] <paradizelost> crueldog: dapper has the drivers.
[12:18] <paradizelost> :D
[12:18] <orbish> this is what i'm downloading ubuntu-6.06-beta2-install-i386.iso
[12:18] <orbish> is that flight 7?
[12:18] <steveire> nope
[12:18] <ruggy> no
[12:18] <orbish> hmm..
[12:19] <steveire> You'll prob have to do a ton of updating if you do that...
[12:19] <crueldog> whats dapper?
[12:20] <crueldog> What is dapper?
[12:20] <paradizelost> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[12:20] <paradizelost> !dapper
[12:20] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:20] <orbish> just found it   thanks paradize
[12:21] <steveire> Will grub live on my boot partition too, or does it get installed in the root of whichever distro I use to install it (Am I making %uany%u sense?)
[12:21] <paradizelost> steveire: the grub files are in /boot, but it installs to the MBR to boot
[12:21] <majd> Is there a quick tutorial to create a lan network between my linux and windows machines?
[12:22] <crueldog> paradizelost: what is dapper?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> !samba
[12:22] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[12:22] <steveire> dapper is the beta version of ubuntu
[12:22] <thoreauputic> majd: ^^^
[12:22] <majd> thoreauputic, thanks
[12:23] <crueldog> k
[12:23] <thoreauputic> majd: no problem :)
[12:23] <amphi> steveire: not if you've made /boot a separate partition, and mounted it
[12:23] <steveire> paradizelost: What do you mean it installs the MBR to boot? It installs the MBR to whichever disto I use to install it?
[12:23] <|Sivik|> what is the easy way to install arial in linux?
[12:23] <crueldog> i have 2 printers, one on parallel port (which i dont find driver) and one on usp, which i have driver, but i cant make it oprint.
[12:23] <crueldog> usb**
[12:23] <thoreauputic> steveire: umm - grub installs to the MBR unless you tell it not to
[12:24] <paradizelost> master boot record
[12:24] <paradizelost> there is 1 master boot record per hard disk
[12:24] <paradizelost> it's a 512byte section IIRC
[12:24] <paradizelost> Seveas: you here?
[12:24] <crueldog> i have 2 printers, one on parallel port (which i dont find driver) and one on usb, which i have driver, but i cant make it print.
[12:25] <paradizelost> Seveas: how would one add a link to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/  in the info in !dapper?
[12:26] <crueldog> thanks for the help (sarcastiquely)
[12:26] <paradizelost> well all, time to head home.
[12:26] <Seveas> paradizelost, one wouldn't. The factoid is long already
[12:26] <bimberi> paradizelost: there's a !flight7 factoid
[12:26] <steveire> OK, I think I'm beginning to understand, but should I tell grub not to install to the MBR?
[12:26] <amphi> steveire: grub installs files in /boot/grub
[12:26] <paradizelost> Seveas: it's a pain to always have to tell people where they can get the cd....
[12:26] <paradizelost> !flight7
[12:26] <ubotu> flight7 is probably available via http://www.ubuntu.com/testing, or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[12:26] <paradizelost> ahh.,
[12:26] <paradizelost> k
[12:26] <paradizelost> nm
[12:26] <paradizelost> :D
[12:26] <paradizelost> danke
[12:26] <amphi> steveire: and writes some code to the mbr by default
[12:26] <paradizelost> we'll cya all l8r.
[12:27] <thoreauputic> steveire: normally you install grub to the MBR
[12:27] <thoreauputic> steveire: it then puts its config files in /boot/grub
[12:27] <Minty> Have a printer connected to my XP machine , should i use cups or win smb as choice in settings ??
[12:27] <bimberi> !xprint
[12:27] <ubotu> bimberi: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:27] <bimberi> !xpprint
[12:27] <ubotu> Printing from ubuntu to an XP connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter.  Printing from XP to an ubuntu connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[12:28] <thoreauputic> bimberi: aha - that's a useful factoid
[12:28] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:28] <_JECKEL_> this is odd
[12:28] <bimberi> !factinfo xpprint
[12:28] <ubotu> xpprint -- created by bimberi <n=bimberi@144.139.227.130> at Tue Feb 21 15:18:14 2006 (80 days); it has been requested 20 times, last by bimberi, 39s ago.
[12:28] <dominion> Fact:  The world's largest art gallery is the Winter Palace and Hermitage in St. Petersburg, Russia. Visitors would have to walk 15 miles to see the 322 galleries which house nearly 3 million works of art.
[12:28] <bimberi> :)
[12:28] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:28] <_JECKEL_> seems like all my windows and such in fluxbox are stuck on the same orangish brown background theme for input boxes
[12:29] <majd> hi
[12:30] <steveire> As my current condition is dual booting XP and Kubuntu, do I make a boot partition, move everything from /boot to it, then reinstall grub?
[12:30] <majd> i'm trying to kill a process and when i type in the PID it asks me if i really want to do it so i type y then enter and it says operation not permitted
[12:30] <thoreauputic> steveire: you don't really need a separate boot partition normally...
[12:30] <Blissex> majd: do it as 'root'.
[12:31] <mumbles> ok. i try and install pcmcia-modules- and it says its dependent on
[12:31] <Blissex> steveire: why? whats the point?
[12:31] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[12:31] <mumbles> kernel-image-2.4.26-1-686-smp
[12:31] <_JECKEL_> any idea why my windows on the input boxes would be stuck on one theme in fluxbox even though I change themes?
[12:31] <steveire> I like ubuntu, but I want to have the option of trying and possibly keeping or removing other linux distros and FreeBSD
[12:32] <simonpca> plop
[12:32] <thoreauputic> _JECKEL_: try firing up gnome-theme-manager
[12:32] <amphi> steveire: just keep /home on a separate partition is enough for that
[12:32] <mumbles> hwo do i get rid of that dependencey ?
[12:32] <nickrud> steveire, simply keep some partitions around, and run a master menu.lst
[12:32] <thoreauputic> _JECKEL_: you can change the theme using that usually - but only if gnome-settings-daemon is running
[12:32] <Jowi> _JECKEL_: it's a bug. i made some gtk themes myself and sometimes the themes do not get updated properly immediatly
[12:33] <steveire> No need for a separate boot partition so, you say... nickrud, so leave the partition there available to take a new os if the mood takes me?
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Jowi: no, he's in fluxbox - and probably not running gnome-settings-daemon
[12:33] <dolmen> Vim7 will not be in Dapper... Very sad...
[12:33] <dolmen> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vim/+bug/44269
[12:33] <steveire> can you tell me anything about Master.list?
[12:33] <nickrud> steveire, yes.
[12:34] <steveire> sorry, menu.list. never heard of it
[12:34] <thoreauputic> _JECKEL_: read the docs at fluxbox.org
[12:34] <butu> salut
[12:34] <ompaul> !fr
[12:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:34] <Jowi> thoreauputic: does not matter. fluxbox (and sawfish that i use) does not need the gnome-settings-deamon. i use gtk-chtheme to change the "application" theme
[12:34] <thoreauputic> _JECKEL_: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook.php
[12:34] <steveire> Is there any concievable advantage or situation to having a separate boot partition?
[12:34] <nickrud> steveire, it's the configuration file that you'd use to control booting the partitions.
[12:35] <Minty> loggin, by all
[12:35] <_JECKEL_> I got it
[12:35] <steveire> erm. I use grub to control booting partitions. Is it a file in grub? how would I use it as a master file?
[12:35] <_JECKEL_> running the theme thing worked
[12:36] <thoreauputic> Jowi: problem is that "switch" doesn't seem to work for that here - gtk-chtheme you say? haven't heard of that ...
[12:36] <nickrud> steveire, I use grub now, and find it easier to let /boot exist natively for each os. Sometimes, names of kernels from one partition to another are identical
[12:36] <riddlebox> how do I stop a module from loading at boot?
[12:36] <Jowi> thoreauputic: yeah, some wierd bug in gtk-theme-switch2.
[12:36] <Apostle^> riddlebox, remove it from /etc/modules ?
[12:36] <majd> Hi, i'm trying to access System>Administration>Network
[12:36] <majd> and when i type in my password i get this: Failed to run network-admin as user root:
[12:36] <majd>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[12:36] <steveire> nickrud: OK, a disadvantage is good enough for me...
[12:37] <Jowi> thoreauputic: got it from here i think: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gtk-chtheme/
[12:37] <steveire> no boot partition it is. Seems like a lot of hassle anyway
[12:37] <riddlebox> Apostle^, the module is not even in there?
[12:37] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - is XGL on the latest dapper cd?
[12:38] <Apostle^> riddlebox, hmm.. don't know then
[12:38] <Apostle^> Super_Cat_Frog, i don't think XGL is on any ubuntu cd, because it's new and buggy
[12:38] <tahorg> buggy ?
[12:38] <Jowi> thoreauputic: ah, even better. found its homepage: http://plasmasturm.org/code/gtk-chtheme/
[12:38] <tahorg> I'm using it every day
[12:38] <thoreauputic> riddlebox: used to be you put it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist - but I think that's changed in dapper
[12:39] <Super_Cat_Frog> ok ta
[12:39] <Apostle^> tahorg, some people have success others not depending on hardware etc
[12:39] <riddlebox> ahhh ok
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Jowi: thanks :)
[12:39] <tahorg> Apostle^: I agree it's a driver issue
[12:39] <Jowi> riddlebox: should be /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist for dapper
[12:40] <riddlebox> Jowi, thanks
[12:40] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[12:40] <thoreauputic> oops, big lag followed by flood here.. very odd
[12:41] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[12:41] <_JECKEL_> ok..
[12:41] <_JECKEL_> now..if only I could get rid of that damn scrollbar to the left of aterm..
[12:41] <steveire> fdisk -l has a star beside my windows partition under boot. What does this mean, and will changing it affect anything?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> _JECKEL_: aterm +sb
[12:42] <_JECKEL_> awesome
[12:42] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:42] <thoreauputic> _JECKEL_: you should really read the aterm man page - all sorts of options in there
[12:42] <ruggy> the world is going to end on monday
[12:42] <thoreauputic> ruggy: thanks for the warning
[12:43] <Jowi> ruggy: better spend my last days configuring ubuntu then!
[12:43] <majd> Hi, i'm trying to access System>Administration>Network
[12:43] <majd> and when i type in my password i get this: Failed to run network-admin as user root:
[12:43] <majd>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[12:43] <tahorg> ruggy: the're coming, at last.
[12:43] <_JECKEL_> I find it easier to learn from the experience of others
[12:43] <_JECKEL_> and fooling around myself
[12:43] <ompaul> thoreauputic, can you send me the plans for a tin foil hat
[12:43] <thoreauputic> quick! squash all bugs before Armageddon!
[12:43] <Twilight_Sun> WINE
[12:44] <ompaul> !wine
[12:44] <Twilight_Sun> !wine
[12:44] <Jowi> ompaul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinfoil_hat :P
[12:44] <ompaul> Twilight_Sun, check the message from ubotu :)
[12:44] <ompaul> Jowi, thanks
[12:44] <siriusnova> sup guys
[12:45] <Twilight_Sun> no recognize
[12:47] <mumbles> . i try and install pcmcia-modules- and it says its dependent on kernel-image-2.4.26-1-686-smp how do i sort this out ?
[12:48] <Twilight_Sun> how do tou load driectX through wine
[12:48] <Twilight_Sun> you8
[12:48] <Twilight_Sun> *
[12:48] <Twilight_Sun> **************
[12:48] <majd> how can i see how much space is left on my hard drive?
[12:48] <amphi> majd: df [-h] 
[12:49] <majd> df: `[-h] ': No such file or directory
[12:49] <Jowi> "df -h"
[12:49] <siriusnova> haha this website is cool
[12:49] <siriusnova> it lets you watch tv shows and episodes
[12:49] <siriusnova> for free
[12:49] <siriusnova> :D
[12:50] <Twilight_Sun> peer
[12:50] <siriusnova> it works in linux too >.<
[12:50] <Twilight_Sun> is there a way to upgrade DXdiag?
[12:51] <majd> i love the fact that i don't have enough space to delete stuff
[12:51] <ompaul> mako, good evening
[12:51] <tahorg> majd: you are really strange
[12:51] <majd> tahorg, why?
[12:51] <majd> i think i figured it out
[12:52] <majd> i have 1gb in my trash
[12:52] <Trashcan> lol
[12:52] <tech_> how do I install verlihub
[12:52] <tech_> ?
[12:52] <tahorg> majd: good guess :)
[12:52] <rab> Can some one help me get the Perl NET::IRC module working?
[12:52] <stevio> I was not very smart earlier and I deleted the bottom panel where the windows kind of minimize to, how can I get this back? I added a new panel on the desktop, but the windows don't minimize to them.
[12:53] <mumbles> woo package manager dosent like me tongiht
[12:53] <rab> stevio, right click ont he panel and go to add to panel, Then select window list
[12:54] <CaNesOnE> ??
[12:54] <CaNesOnE> hi
[12:54] <Mystery47> hi
[12:54] <CaNesOnE> whats is your from?
[12:55] <rab> Can some one help me get the Perl NET::IRC module working?
[12:55] <Old> for ddclient installation, is the "interface used for dynamic DNS service" eth=0 or?
[12:55] <Twilight_Sun> java is a peice of crap
[12:55] <Jowi> Old: depends. are you behind a router?
[12:55] <Old> No
[12:55] <_jason> rab: libnet-irc-perl
[12:55] <Old> its eth=0, not eth0
[12:55] <Old> right?
[12:55] <rab> _jason, i receive errors
[12:55] <rab> _jason, rabrab.no-ip.org/errors/
[12:56] <Old> Jowi, correct?
[12:56] <_jason> rab: maybe #perl can be more helpful or two ##... idk
[12:56] <rab> _jason, k thanks
[12:56] <Jowi> Old: if=eth0
[12:56] <_jason> rab: I can't access your site by the way
[12:56] <Old> is it if=eth0
[12:56] <Jowi> yes
[12:56] <Old> sure?
[12:57] <Jowi> Old: are you using a ppp0 connection?
[12:57] <rab> _jason, how about now?
[12:57] <Old> cheers mate
[12:57] <paradizelos1> hey all, is there any way to pre-empt an existing IRC connection i have in gaim on another PC i currently don't have access to?
[12:57] <Old> it worked Jowi
[12:57] <Old> dunno
[12:57] <Old> :D
[12:57] <Jowi> cool Old
[12:57] <_jason> rab: 404 it seems
[12:57] <Apostle^> paradizelos1, msg nickserv ghost username password
[12:57] <Apostle^> i believe ..
[12:57] <Twilight_Sun> Can DX be upgraded on Linux?
[12:58] <rab> odd, it was working earlier
[12:58] <steveire> What kind of filesystem should I use for my /home partition?
[12:58] <mantono^> !mpd
[12:58] <ubotu> mantono^: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:58] <Jowi> steveire: ext3 is recommended
[12:58] <Apostle^> steveire, ext3 is good
[12:58] <thoreauputic> steveire: good ol' ext3 is fine
[12:58] <_jason> rab: it's going to http://24.154.232.113:8008/errors/
[12:58] <ompaul> steveire, unless you have some special requirements defaults are good
[12:59] <rab> yea
[12:59] <steveire> cool. Would fat work just as well?
[12:59] <ompaul> steveire, no
[12:59] <thoreauputic> steveire: no!
[12:59] <rab> _jason, you got it it?
[12:59] <steveire> hehe
[12:59] <Jowi> steveire: no. fat does not have "permissions"
[12:59] <thoreauputic> steveire: fat is rubbish
[12:59] <_jason> rab: 404 though
[12:59] <|Sivik|> what is the command to get into the file manager as a root
[12:59] <rab> _jason, I'm hosting it off my pc
[12:59] <ompaul> thoreauputic, don't insult rubbish :)
[12:59] <nny> wow
[12:59] <thoreauputic> ompaul: haha :)
[12:59] <steveire> Ah. That explains why I couldn't play music off my fat32 partition.
[12:59] <steveire> I think...
[12:59] <HIGH-FREQ> |Sivik|: u mean nautilus
[12:59] <amphi> nny: heh
[12:59] <paradizelost> steveire: ext3 is fine, but i usually prefer reiserfs
[12:59] <|Sivik|> HIGH-FREQ, yes
[12:59] <Jowi> you finally made you hat ompaul :)
[01:00] <nny> asus aj6c... not loving alot of stuff for me right now
[01:00] <steveire> What about vfat? I thought that was lixux catch-all
[01:00] <|Sivik|> HIGH-FREQ, i never can remember that bloody command
[01:00] <ompaul> steveire, no it does not, you most likely do not have codecs
[01:00] <Ykstort> :O
[01:00] <paradizelost> vfat ~ fat32
[01:00] <ompaul> !codecs
[01:00] <nny> even pcmcia/wireless is acting up
[01:00] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:00] <Ykstort> I'm unbanned !
[01:00] <amphi> steveire: vfat is t3h 3vi1
[01:00] <lullabud> !java
[01:00] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:00] <_jason> steveire: fat doesn't allow for linux to use permissions correctly
[01:00] <paradizelost> !vfat
[01:00] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:00] <HIGH-FREQ> |Sivik|: should be like sudo -s nautilus?  maybe...
[01:00] <Jowi> steveire: vfat = fat32
[01:00] <steveire> crystal clear now folks. Thanks.
[01:00] <nny> so yeah, speaking of fat32, is that the best way for sharing storage for a dual boot right now?
[01:01] <|Sivik|> /usr/bin/nautilus: /usr/bin/nautilus: cannot execute binary file
[01:01] <Ykstort> nny, pretty much
[01:01] <thoreauputic> nny: sadly yes
[01:01] <paradizelost> nny: you could get the ext2 driver for windows
[01:01] <_jason> rab: however if I get rid of the errors/ it takes me to your homepage
[01:01] <Jowi> nny: you can do that. but there is also ext drivers for win
[01:01] <nny> paradizelost: hows that work?
[01:01] <nny> is it better?
[01:01] <steveire> nny, that's what I'm currently doing, but I understand you can make windows read etx...
[01:01] <steveire> ext*
[01:01] <Apostle^> nny, the ext2 driver for windows works perfectly
[01:01] <thoreauputic> paradizelost: i hear scary things about the ext2 driver for windows...
[01:01] <Apostle^> it just shows it as another drive
[01:01] <paradizelost> nny: i haven't set it up myself, but a buddy had it working nicely
[01:01] <|Sivik|> HIGH-FREQ, that wasn't right
[01:01] <nny> rock on i'll do that for sotrage
[01:01] <Apostle^> it's just point and click, works perfectly
[01:01] <HIGH-FREQ> hmm..ya i just checked it
[01:02] <Seq> I've had pretty good luck using the ext driver in windows, except it places a RECYCLED folder on each partition
[01:02] <nny> now i just need to figure out why this install is fighting me on networking
[01:02] <|Sivik|> HIGH-FREQ, its without the -s
[01:02] <rab> _jason, oh yeah i deleted it this morning, h/o
[01:02] <_jason> rab: and error without the s takes me to a listing of bot.pl and perl.png
[01:02] <paradizelost> i think i's caled e2fs
[01:02] <HIGH-FREQ> aah
[01:02] <Seq> which is matched by a .TRASH-$user on each fat32 partition, so it balances ;)
[01:02] <mako> ompaul: hey there
[01:03] <thoreauputic> slowing down now
[01:03] <rab> _jason, you it's up
[01:03] <thoreauputic> oops
[01:03] <rab> _jason, thats the errors
[01:03] <Cooner750> Having problems here. ALSA does not work correctly, but OSS does. However audio in Flash does not work with OSS enabled. How can I get that to work?
[01:03] <_jason> rab: should your code read Nest::IRC or Net::pl??
[01:03] <thoreauputic> wrong window
[01:03] <ompaul> mako, got about 2 minutes?
[01:03] <nny> why would this dapper install have wifi0/wlan0 listed as interfaces, but on my other laptop (breezy) it shows as eth0?
[01:03] <nny> er eth1
[01:03] <mako> ompaul: sure
[01:04] <paradizelost> nny: the way the driver makes it show
[01:04] <nny> these ornioco cards work fine on my laptop, but are acting trippy on the other one
[01:04] <paradizelost> nny: mine shows as eth0
[01:04] <nny> hermes chipsetr
[01:04] <nny> hmm
[01:04] <Larsson-Sweden> When i am using fglrx, and using the vidix video driver in a videoplayer like xine or mplayer, there is only a pink/green screen where the image should be on my tv. I am using tv-out, and where the movie should be, there is only a pink or green screen. It works with the vesa driver for X tough.
[01:04] <ompaul> mako, can I give you a bell or do you want to stay on irc?
[01:04] <mumbles> ok... i cant get my laptop to find my dlink airepluss dwl-g650+
[01:04] <paradizelost> nny: but for the dapper issues, i'd ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:04] <rab> _jason, wow  all that for a typo o.O
[01:04] <_jason> rab: :)
[01:04] <rab> _jason thanks anyways
[01:04] <nny> thanks
[01:05] <mumbles> anyone got any ideas ?
[01:05] <Old> where's the trashcan in ubuntu if theres any?
[01:05] <Old> :E
[01:05] <paradizelost> Old: icon in the bottom right corner
[01:06] <paradizelost> in gnom
[01:06] <paradizelost> gnome
[01:06] <Jowi> Larsson-Sweden: probably a kernel driver bug. had the same prob with my non-ati card. I don't know the fglrx drivers but I would try a different kernel first of all
[01:06] <paradizelost> Larsson-Sweden: have you tried the ati control panel and changed the settings for the tv?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Old: /home/usrname/.trash   iirc
[01:06] <_jason> Old, gnomefreak: capital T, .Trash
[01:07] <ryanpg> anyone running dapper and FOSS ati driver care to check if EXA is working? it's not for me.
[01:07] <gnomefreak> _jason: ty soryr
[01:07] <paradizelost> ryanpg: try in #ubuntu+1
[01:07] <daryl_> ls
[01:07] <gnomefreak> s/soryr/sorry
[01:07] <ryanpg> paradizelost, ty
[01:07] <thoreauputic> daryl_: command not found ;-)
[01:07] <Larsson-Sweden> Jowi, i've had this problem for a long time. I have changed kernels several times.
[01:07] <paradizelost> !ls
[01:07] <ubotu> hmm... ls is the command used to LiSt the contents of a directory in Linux.
[01:07] <Larsson-Sweden> paradizelost, yes. No luck.
[01:07] <sarixe> does anyone know how to mount an ntfs in dapper with full permissions? i was able to mount one with permissions 500, but i can't figure out a+rwx...
[01:08] <gnomefreak> sarixe: try #ubuntu+!
[01:08] <paradizelost> sarixe: try in #ubuntu+1
[01:08] <sarixe> k
[01:08] <sarixe> thanks
[01:08] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1 even
[01:08] <thoreauputic> sarixe: you can't write to ntfs
[01:08] <sarixe> ...
[01:08] <sarixe> k
[01:08] <paradizelost> it can be done, not safely
[01:08] <Jowi> Larsson-Sweden: ah. that's crap. how about turning off framebuffer in grub? (add "vga=normal")
[01:09] <sarixe> well don't you think that after about 5 years of ntfs, somebody would have come up with linux compatability for it?
[01:09] <Seq> can you create new files in NTFS yet with the unsafe writing ability, or are you still limited to doing equivilant overwrites?
[01:09] <Larsson-Sweden> Jowi, can that make a diff? Im running the videos in X, and it works with vesa.
[01:09] <thoreauputic> sarixe: they would have if MS had given out the specs
[01:09] <paradizelost> sarixe: it's due to NTFS being a M$ product and them not releasing the specs for it
[01:09] <sarixe> i see
[01:09] <amphi> Larsson-Sweden: any reason not to use the xv driver?
[01:09] <paradizelost> sarixe: as i said, it can be done, just not safely, there is a fairly high risk of data corruption
[01:09] <thoreauputic> sarixe: complain to the chair throwing champion
[01:09] <thoreauputic> ;)
[01:10] <paradizelost> DEVELOPERS!DEVELOPERS!DEVELOPERS!DEVELOPERS!DEVELOPERS!
[01:10] <paradizelost> :D
[01:10] <amphi> heh
[01:10] <thoreauputic> mokey dancer!
[01:10] <_jason> ha
[01:10] <thoreauputic> *monkey dancer!
[01:10] <Jowi> Larsson-Sweden: it can. as I said, my kernel drivers + xorg driver combo had wierd things going on for awhile
[01:10] <amphi> did Flying Chair Linux ever get done?
[01:10] <Larsson-Sweden> amphi, mplayer can't find that driver.
[01:10] <thoreauputic> paradizelost: you could, if he has any
[01:11] <Larsson-Sweden> Jowi, is there a GUI for confing grub?
[01:11] <paradizelost> CoC?
[01:11] <paradizelost> ah, code of conduct
[01:11] <thoreauputic> !coc
[01:11] <ubotu> well, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:12] <paradizelost> thoreauputic: it's not as bad as yesterday when a guy was being an idiot and asking for help pirating a cd basically, and i told him to type a command on the CLI
[01:12] <paradizelost> :D
[01:12] <thoreauputic> paradizelost: was that the guy with the *.mp3.rar file ?
[01:13] <Jowi> Larsson-Sweden: ummm... no idea :) to test without framebuffer without changing a thing; when grub starts, "edit" the like and add "vga=normal" after "root=/dev/..." entry and boot it. if it doesn't work you don't have to edit any configs and stuff
[01:13] <paradizelost> no, GTA_VICECITY.ISO
[01:13] <paradizelost> or something like that
[01:13] <thoreauputic> paradizelost: haha - I see
[01:13] <Jowi> s/like/line
[01:13] <thoreauputic> paradizelost: mount -o loop GTA_VICECITY.ISO
[01:13] <_jason> what are the advantages to turning on the gramebuffer?
[01:13] <paradizelost> yep
[01:13] <_jason> framebuffer even
[01:14] <paradizelost> !forkbomb
[01:14] <ubotu> somebody said forkbomb was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[01:14] <amphi> Larsson-Sweden: mplayer -vo xv doesn't work?
[01:14] <thoreauputic> paradizelost: hmm that's only half of the command I guess
[01:14] <mumbles> dose anyone care to do a one to one in helping me with my wireless card ?
[01:14] <paradizelost> !wireless
[01:14] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[01:14] <Larsson-Sweden> amphi, no, that video driver can't be found.
[01:15] <amphi> Larsson-Sweden: that's very strange
[01:15] <thoreauputic> mumbles: it's generally bad form to ask for individual attention
[01:15] <Jowi> _jason: framebuffer make cool splash screens during startup. and on integrated graphic cards with shared memory you can set the memory consumption in the bios to your likings
[01:15] <amphi> mumbles: just ask
[01:15] <mumbles> my laptop dose not find my dlink airepluss dwl-g650+
[01:15] <_jason> Jowi: ah I see, because when i turn it on X refuses to start.  So I was wondering what I was missing.  Thanks
[01:16] <paradizelost> mumbles: do an lspci - is your card in the list, if usb, try lsusb
[01:17] <mumbles> paradizelost - thats the thing. i cant find any mention of the card in there
[01:17] <mumbles> but if i do a ldiswrapper -l it says its found it
[01:17] <paradizelost> is it USB, PCI, or PCMCIA
[01:17] <paradizelost> mumbles: try in #ndiswrapper
[01:17] <mumbles> pcmcia
[01:17] <paradizelost> is your PCMCIA slot working?
[01:18] <Jowi> mumbles: check here http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to see which driver you need to load
[01:18] <mumbles> it works under lwindows
[01:18] <mumbles> erm windows
[01:19] <amphi> mumbles: that is not relevant ;)
[01:19] <paradizelost> mumbles: you have to have your pcmcia slot working in LINUX before the system can see the card you put in
[01:20] <thoreauputic> amphi: still doing the Nepal thing? You used to hang out in #linux, right?
[01:21] <amphi> thoreauputic: yeah - no, not there ATM - I'll be going in about a month, probably
[01:22] <thoreauputic> amphi: ah! OK I remembered correctly then :)
[01:22] <amphi> indeed ;)
[01:22] <mumbles> paradizelost - it says that all the drivers are there and workign
[01:22] <amphi> thoreauputic: you were .au IIRC?
[01:23] <paradizelost> mumbles: show me the line
[01:23] <thoreauputic> amphi: yup. Still am :)
[01:23] <paradizelost> !paste
[01:23] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[01:23] <amphi> mumbles: does 'sudo ifconfig -a' show the interface?
[01:24] <mumbles> one sec. just firing up xchat so i dont have to keep chaning screens
[01:24] <kingspawn> amphi: every time you talk to "mumbles" I read your lines as really grumpy :) "amphi mumbles: I am really tired of this now..."
[01:24] <[lastnight] > what repositories are 'safe' to use after a default install? everything in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[01:24] <[lastnight] > or just a few of them
[01:24] <[lastnight] > and what about adding extra  repositories ?
[01:24] <paradizelost> !repositories
[01:24] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:24] <paradizelost> !suppositories
[01:24] <ubotu> paradizelost: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:25] <lindsay> i'm having a problem with my video, i recently installed ubuntu from the cd i just downloaded, then it told me to update, now when i reinstalled all the text is messed up and barely readable
[01:25] <thoreauputic> kingspawn: amphi is an old hand :) And a helpful one at that
[01:25] <kingspawn> thoreauputic: hehe, yeah, just looks so funny :)
[01:25] <[lastnight] > there are a few comments in the /etc/apt/sources.list file almost warning against using some of the repositories
[01:25] <paradizelost> lindsay: what video card you using?
[01:25] <amphi> kingspawn: heh
[01:25] <lindsay> um, i'm not sure it's a laptop
[01:25] <paradizelost> lindsay: are you using breezy or dapper?
[01:25] <thoreauputic> kingspawn: I'm the grumpy one
[01:26] <[lastnight] > i mean , can we trust the binaries served  by those operating the repos?
[01:26] <lindsay> i'm not sure of that either
[01:26] <kingspawn> [lastnight] : the official ones? indeed.
[01:26] <kingspawn> thoreauputic: hehe
[01:26] <lindsay> breezy
[01:26] <steveire> currently my NTFS partition has the boot flag. Can I change that and does it matter
[01:26] <steveire> ?
[01:26] <paradizelost> steveire: do you still want to boot to windows at all?
[01:26] <[lastnight] > kingspawn thanks, i hope you're right :  )
[01:26] <steveire> yep. sometimes
[01:27] <gleesond> anyone have a good website for buying ram?
[01:27] <paradizelost> steveire: then i'd leave it as is
[01:27] <kingspawn> thoreauputic: *ouch*
[01:27] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: where are the aliases for bash kept? ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc or ~/.bashrc~
[01:27] <paradizelost> gleesond: http://www.newegg.com
[01:27] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: mine are in ~/.bashrc
[01:27] <kingspawn> gnomefreak: files ending with a ~ are usually emacs backups
[01:27] <steveire> what would happen if I moved the flag to my linux partition?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[01:27] <lindsay> all the text and lines are solid, they are more dashed and spread apart
[01:27] <paradizelost> steveire: if the system is booing now, i'd leave it alone
[01:27] <amphi> steveire: the 'bootable' flag?
[01:27] <gleesond> (gnome 2.14)++
[01:27] <___gn0m3___> hi
[01:28] <amphi> steveire: linux doesn't care about the bootable flag
[01:28] <___gn0m3___> anyone know how i can get steam/counterstrike for ubuntu breezy
[01:28] <defendguin> dvd playback was working 2 days ago using totem gst  now i get the message that i dont have the proper plugin to play DVDs what update did this and do i need another plugin?  im using dapper
[01:28] <steveire> There is a star under boot beside my NTFS partition, amphi. I don't know what it;s for.
[01:28] <defendguin> mplayer can play dvds fine
[01:28] <AnsiC> hello
[01:28] <paradizelost> ___gn0m3___: you could try cedega
[01:28] <___gn0m3___> !cedega
[01:28] <paradizelost> !tell ___gn0m3___ about cedega
[01:28] <mumbles_laptop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13882
[01:28] <___gn0m3___> is it free?
[01:28] <steveire> what do you mean linux doesn't care about it?
[01:28] <amphi> steveire: I'd leave that - windows used to feel sad without it, dunno if it still does
[01:28] <thoreauputic> steveire: I told you about an hour ago that it means windows is bootable
[01:28] <paradizelost> ___gn0m3___: no
[01:28] <___gn0m3___> crud
[01:29] <AnsiC> i have reinstalled ubuntu this morning but synaptic do not find mplayer
[01:29] <___gn0m3___> anything free?
[01:29] <paradizelost> !mplayer
[01:29] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:29] <steveire> I must have missed that thoreauputic.
[01:29] <pike_> advise please, setting up the dhcp daemon i can just leave config file alone and edit /etc/default/dhcp and add the interface i want to right?
[01:29] <mpmc> I've got X working with TV out on my NV card but the TV output is black & white.. :(
[01:29] <paradizelost> ___gn0m3___: could try wine, but it doesn't work so well for directx games
[01:29] <amphi> ___gn0m3___: all those underscores are somewhat irritating
[01:29] <thoreauputic> steveire: you seem to be a terrible worrier ;-)
[01:29] <Jowi> defendguin: totem is a bit wierd atm. try mounting your dvd. then go to Movie-OpenLocation and type in /media/your_mountpoint to see if that works
[01:29] <amphi> heheh
[01:29] <defendguin> ok Jowi
[01:29] <steveire> I'd call myself thoro in preparation
[01:29] <mpmc> Any ideas>
[01:30] <paradizelost> mpmc: usually a sign your not using a good cable
[01:30] <amphi> steveire: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" ;)
[01:30] <___gn0m3___> what happened?
[01:30] <mumbles_laptop> paradizelost,  - amphi   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13883 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13882
[01:30] <___gn0m3___> what u guys doing :] 
[01:30] <popey> mpmc: outputting NTSC to a PAL TV or vice versa?
[01:30] <lindsay> paradizelost, all the lines and text are broken up and pixelated
[01:30] <steveire> grand so... I'm still reading loads about partitions before I do anything though...
[01:30] <cafuego> somebody set up us the bomb!
[01:30] <amphi> ___gn0m3___: your nick makes my display unaesthetic
[01:31] <Jowi> amphi: haha
[01:31] <maxallen> any advice on adding fonts to Xft?
[01:31] <mpmc> paradizelost: It was in colour when, I followed the standard clone version... (PAL-I).. I set it to PAL-I but It's black & white & I can see lines..
[01:31] <paradizelost> mumbles: looks to me like its working for you
[01:31] <amphi> Jowi: seriously, I'm readying the oubliette
[01:31] <CaptainMorgan> jeezum.. I haven't been here in awhile, how do I install thunderbird or firefox from the command line if I have the .tar?
[01:31] <paradizelost> mumbles: just have to configure it
[01:31] <popey> mpmc: are you sure it's set to RGB and not AV?
[01:31] <thoreauputic> ___gn0m3___: I really frown on underscores, and []  {} ()\ etc in nicks - they look lame
[01:32] <paradizelost> mumbles: it's wlan0
[01:32] <popey> mpmc: the TV that is?
[01:32] <thoreauputic> :D
[01:32] <mumbles_laptop> paradizelost,  - thats the onbord wich dosent pick up most of the wireless networks
[01:32] <popey> mpmc: I have the same problem with my commercial DVD player and my TV - I have to switch inputs on the TV
[01:32] <paradizelost> ___gn0m3___: not only do they look bad, but they are a pain to type
[01:32] <mpmc> popey: It's through SVideo...
[01:32] <popey> mpmc: yeah, I know
[01:32] <CaptainMorgan> !firefox
[01:32] <popey> mpmc: so is my tv
[01:32] <Jowi> amphi: for just a second I looked at the TV then looked back at the screen again and though "what the *@! happened in the channel" :)
[01:32] <CaptainMorgan> !thunderbird
[01:32] <ubotu> I heard thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[01:32] <lindsay> paradizelost, is there anything i can update, it was working fine before i restarted after the update
[01:33] <mpmc> popey: How do I change the output?
[01:33] <paradizelost> lindsay: you'll need to know what type of card it is
[01:33] <popey> mpmc: I don't think you do, I think it's the TV that needs to be told to expect a different input
[01:33] <popey> mpmc: that's what I have to do on my Sony TV
[01:33] <popey> mpmc: or I get B&W
[01:33] <paradizelost> lindsay: what brand is it?
[01:33] <CaptainMorgan> how do I extract to run?
[01:33] <thoreauputic> Jowi: you  know you are in trouble when you try to tab-complete the TV remote control
[01:33] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[01:34] <lindsay> paradizelost, can i check it inside linux? because i can't find it on the case
[01:34] <mpmc> popey: I've switched to RGB, there is no output..
[01:34] <Jowi> :)
[01:34] <popey> thoreauputic: you know you've been on irc too much when you say "slash me needs a drink" in real life
[01:34] <amphi> thoreauputic: there's a script for irssi which uses a dictionary to let you tab-complete every word ;)
[01:34] <mpmc> popey: Blank screen..
[01:34] <paradizelost> mpmc: the cable doesn't have any bent pins does it?
[01:34] <popey> mpmc: maybe it's not RGB
[01:34] <mpmc> Nope No bent pins
[01:34] <paradizelost> lindsay: what brand is it? gateway, dell, ibm, lenovo, hp?
[01:34] <popey> mpmc: but it's definately a setting on the tv
[01:35] <Flannel> amphi: really?  I find myself trying to tab complete longer words, heh.
[01:35] <thoreauputic> heh
[01:35] <Jowi> CaptainMorgan: you need to be more precise than that
[01:35] <paradizelost> popey: i've had cables that were yellow on the ends not be good enough for vid. from a comp.
[01:35] <CaptainMorgan> noh.. that's not it.. tar -zxvf...
[01:35] <Larsson-Sweden> Adding vga=normal did not help.
[01:35] <lindsay> paradizelost, toshiba satellite M35
[01:35] <CaptainMorgan> Jowi, I just want to update from the 1.07 to 1.50
[01:35] <popey> paradizelost: I just have one svideo cable from my dvd to my tv
[01:35] <popey> paradizelost: and one tv channel is set to AV the other is set to something else..
[01:35] <thoreauputic> amphi: I keep trying to tab-complete when I'm writing emails :D
[01:35] <mpmc> popey: It isn't because, It works perfect if I use the Clone Option etc..
[01:35] <CaptainMorgan> I thought I would install them separately, now Im second guessing..
[01:35] <popey> ok
[01:36] <amphi> Flannel: yeah, really - it's on irssi.org, the file is dictcomplete.pl
[01:36] <paradizelost> lindsay: probably intel graphics then
[01:36] <Jowi> CaptainMorgan: are you talking about thunderbird or firefox?
[01:36] <paradizelost> did you do a dist-upgrade as well?
[01:36] <CaptainMorgan> both
[01:36] <Jowi> Larsson-Sweden: dapper or breezy?
[01:36] <amphi> thoreauputic: and using zsh just makes it worse ;)
[01:36] <mpmc> popey: I'll use the pastebin, So you can take a look..
[01:36] <Jowi> !firefox1.5
[01:36] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:37] <lindsay> paradizelost, what do you suggest?
[01:37] <paradizelost> lindsay: did you o a dist-upgrade as well?
[01:37] <paradizelost> or just what the little icon at the top suggested?
[01:37] <paradizelost> lindsay: have you tried changing your resolution?
[01:37] <JonBoon> Is there a particular site you prefer people buy the Ubuntu: from beginner to proffesional book from?
[01:37] <paradizelost> lindsay system->preferences->screen resolution?
[01:37] <paradizelost> !book
[01:37] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[01:37] <lindsay> paradizelost,  yes
[01:37] <mpmc> popey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13884 anything you can see?
[01:38] <paradizelost> lindsay: and what all do you have for choices there?
[01:38] <lindsay> paradizelost, it fixes the problem if it gets smaller like 600x800
[01:38] <lindsay> paradizelost,  600x800 up to 1200x800
[01:38] <paradizelost> lindsay: as in you set the resolution higher?
[01:39] <paradizelost> lindsay: LCD screens have what's called "Native Resolutions", a setting at which any below you go, the quality gets worse
[01:39] <popey> mpmc: you in the UK?
[01:39] <mpmc> popey: yes
[01:39] <popey> :) me too
[01:39] <lindsay> paradizelost, when it's 1280x800 it's messed up, if i drop to 600x800 it looks smooth
[01:39] <lindsay> =/
[01:39] <mpmc> popey: Using an Alba crappy 14ich TV
[01:39] <Aviklund> Hallo
[01:39] <popey> mpmc: that may be why
[01:40] <popey> my new sony doesn't do it, but my old one does
[01:40] <paradizelost> lindsay: k.  when you have it at the 1280x800 what is the frequency?
[01:40] <paradizelost> 60hz?
[01:40] <lindsay> yea
[01:40] <lindsay> that's the only choice
[01:40] <orbish> what resolution are you trying to get?
[01:40] <maxallen> I've installed the artwiz-aleczapka fonts on my computer, but I can't get GTK apps to access them, any tips?
[01:40] <lindsay> 1280x800
[01:40] <paradizelost> did you say M45?
[01:40] <Jowi> lindsay: 60 is normal for a LCD monitor
[01:41] <mpmc> popey: It works fine, If I follow the Wiki For the clone version & It works perfect as a Dual Screen on Windows
[01:41] <lindsay> M35
[01:41] <mpmc> I'm gonna go insane
[01:41] <AnsiC> if i try to install mplayer-i686 using synaptic
[01:41] <AnsiC> mplayer-custom:
[01:41] <AnsiC>  Dipende: libavcodec2  but it is not installable
[01:41] <Jowi> lindsay: are you using the correct video driver? have you tried with the vesa driver?
[01:42] <orbish> it could probably be fixed editing xorg.conf
[01:42] <tahorg> mpmc: why ? because it works fine ?
[01:42] <orbish> that's how i fixed mine to work @ 1280x720
[01:42] <lindsay> no i havn't tried any other drivers
[01:42] <HotDrive> hi. can somebody tell me how to install more video codecs in ubuntu?
[01:42] <paradizelost> lindsay: i can't find anything, and it's been a LONG time since i've done anything w/ intel drivers
[01:43] <paradizelost> !codecs
[01:43] <mpmc> tahorg: the problem is, I want to use the TV for watching films, Not as a clone..
[01:43] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:43] <Larsson-Sweden> Jowi, im the guy with the vidix problem with fglrx driver. I am using dapper now, but had the same problem with breezy.
[01:43] <popey> mpmc: change TVOutFormat to "Composite"
[01:43] <JonBoon> Is there a particular site you prefer people buy the Ubuntu: from beginner to proffesional book from?
[01:43] <orbish> !easysource
[01:43] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:43] <paradizelost> JonBoon: give it up already....
[01:43] <HotDrive> !easysource
[01:43] <CaptainMorgan> thanks jowi
[01:43] <mpmc> popey: ok.. be right back
[01:43] <CaptainMorgan> got a link for tb now?
[01:43] <popey> mpmc: upper case
[01:43] <popey> "COMPOSITE"
[01:43] <Jowi> lindsay, orbish: I'm just being curious here; with a wide screen display, does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" give you the correct resolution options?
[01:44] <AnsiC> why libavcodec2 is not installable ????
[01:44] <JonBoon> i asked two times, go do something else
[01:44] <maxallen> so, any tips for installing fonts to Xft? I've been trying for the past two days, and so far have gotten nowhere
[01:44] <vicente> ./server irc.cl
[01:44] <orbish> not sure to be honest jowi
[01:44] <orbish> i'm really a newb
[01:44] <popey> AnsiC: libavcodeccvs?
[01:44] <thoreauputic> !info libavcodec2
[01:44] <orbish> but the best way for me to get my resolution was to google my resolution and xorg.conf
[01:45] <thoreauputic> no such package according to ubotu
[01:45] <orbish> and looked through configuration files and edited mine accordingly
[01:45] <mpmc> popey: Rofl that fixed it!
[01:45] <popey> :)
[01:45] <popey> see
[01:45] <AnsiC> !easysource
[01:45] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:45] <popey> I knew it
[01:45] <mpmc> In full colour :D
[01:45] <popey> you either had to tell the telly to do it or the computer
[01:45] <popey> :)
[01:45] <mpmc> Thanks for the help :D
[01:45] <popey> no probs
[01:45] <Jowi> Larsson-Sweden: maybe you can have a look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs . sometimes a bug-entry there provide with a temporary fix as well.
[01:45] <joedj> anyone know how to tell 'mencoder' to output files suitable for VCDs?
[01:46] <paradizelost> joedj: try man mencoder
[01:46] <Jowi> ok orbish
[01:46] <Jowi> ubotu, tell lindsay about resolution
[01:46] <stoft> running dapper, where in the physical fs is "media:/"?
[01:47] <joedj> paradizelost: the man page isn't particularly helpful; it shares the same man page as mplayer
[01:47] <amphi> joedj: you'd be better off looking under /usr/share/doc/mencoder
[01:47] <Jowi> lindsay: check the link ubotu maybe it can help you out
[01:47] <popey> stoft: there is no media:/   there is /media/
[01:47] <Wyred> strange
[01:47] <amphi> joedj: man mencoder isn't the easiest read ;)
[01:47] <CaptainMorgan> jowi, how about thunderbird?
[01:47] <ihaveavirus> how do i format my mbr in linux?
[01:47] <Wyred> just looked and in the apps folder I don't have the run command
[01:47] <amphi> ihaveavirus: what do you mean?
[01:48] <Jowi> CaptainMorgan: well, I'm using dapper atm so thunderbird is the latest for me. can't help there i'm afraid
[01:48] <popey> back so soon mpmc ?
[01:48] <popey> :)
[01:48] <pike_> ihaveavirus: grub-install might be easiest
[01:48] <ihaveavirus> I want to remove the virus i have
[01:48] <ihaveavirus> would that format it again?
[01:48] <popey> hahaha
[01:48] <popey> accurate nick
[01:48] <Wyred> lol
[01:48] <AnsiC> where can i download win32codeccd
[01:48] <Wyred> try running aegis
[01:48] <AnsiC> where can i download win32codecs
[01:48] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[01:48] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:48] <maxallen> !fonts
[01:48] <ubotu> somebody said fonts was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[01:48] <ihaveavirus> aegis?
[01:48] <stoft> popey: If I write "media:/" in a konqueror window there are volumes. right click on a volume gives me a physical device name, but I want to work with the logical device name, the one shown in konqueror...
[01:48] <tahorg> ihaveavirus: what virus is it ?
[01:48] <MisterN> !easysource
[01:48] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:48] <thoreauputic> !easysource
[01:49] <tahorg> ihaveavirus: is it calld grub ?
[01:49] <Wyred> it's the antivirus programme that comes with ubunut
[01:49] <popey> stoft: ahh, sorry, I don't use kde
[01:49] <AnsiC> but were ??
[01:49] <AnsiC> there is not codecs in this page
[01:49] <amphi> ihaveavirus: just leave it there, ubuntu won't mind
[01:49] <amphi> ihaveavirus: boot sector viruses are a rarity these days
[01:49] <AnsiC> Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/www.ubuntulinux.nl/public_html/content/php/source-o-matic.php on line 206
[01:49] <orbish> that easysource url isn't working
[01:49] <AnsiC> this is the page:
[01:49] <AnsiC> Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/www.ubuntulinux.nl/public_html/content/php/source-o-matic.php on line 206
[01:50] <ihaveavirus> its not detected by nod32, but i reinstalled windows, and everytime i log in windows my system32 folder opens. Wich makes me think since i have a clean install it must be a virus
[01:50] <stoft> popey: np, thnx anyway, stupid of me not asking in #kubuntu first.
[01:50] <AnsiC> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:50] <CaptainMorgan> is weatherbug the same on Win?
[01:50] <lindsay> it works with 1152x768 so i'll just leave it at that thanks for your help
[01:50] <CaptainMorgan> im worried about sypware..
[01:50] <CaptainMorgan> but it's not possible right?
[01:50] <gnu2it2> is there a simple mail system that supports smtp, pop3 and imap?
[01:50] <AnsiC> there is not win32codecs in this page
[01:50] <popey> gnu2it2: evolution?
[01:50] <paradizelost> !w32codecs
[01:50] <syndicate47> what's the best way of getting computers on a network to share downloaded packages?
[01:50] <amphi> ihaveavirus: I very much doubt you have a bootsector virus
[01:50] <popey> synak: apt-catcher
[01:50] <paradizelost> !tell AnsiC about w32codecs
[01:51] <Wyred> !tell Wyred about w32codecs
[01:51] <gnu2it2> popey: i need server side for small home network
[01:51] <popey> gnu2it2: mutt?
[01:51] <ihaveavirus> amphi, but i know for sure if i do it will be gone if i format my mbr right?
[01:51] <popey> gnu2it2: oh sorry, a mail server?
[01:51] <gnu2it2> y
[01:52] <CaptainMorgan> no problemo jowi, i used the wiki.. dummy me
[01:52] <popey> gnu2it2: dovecot for imap server and postfix for smtp
[01:52] <ihaveavirus> amphi,  I don't know why this folder opens in windows, and ive ran all the online scanners, and user nod32 and a squared
[01:52] <amphi> ihaveavirus: you can never be sure ;) see http://www.acm.org/classics/sep95/
[01:52] <tatters> bytes /sec    = 1,700,474  how many MB per sec is that?
[01:52] <gnu2it2> postfix is working,, but not getting my imap from uw-imapd
[01:52] <Jowi> cool CaptainMorgan
[01:53] <AnsiC> tks
[01:53] <popey> gnu2it2: personally I use exim4 for smtp, teapop for pop3 and dovecot for imap
[01:53] <AnsiC> i finded the codecs
[01:53] <mmmiiikkkeee> when i boot up the process the says 'configuring network interfaces' and that process never ends... so i ^C to kill it ever thing starts up but i have to do 'sudo ifup rausb0' to start my wireless
[01:53] <gnu2it2> popey: so no simple all in 1 vendor solution?
[01:53] <popey> mmmiiikkkeee: do you also have an ethernet device onboard your machine other than the usb device?
[01:54] <ompaul> steveire, its all really cool, and you won't be the first to do this fantasic thing :-)
[01:54] <popey> gnu2it2: not really that I know of
[01:54] <steveire> partitioning?
[01:54] <popey> gnu2it2: but they're all pretty easy to setup for a home network
[01:54] <Old> how do i give full access to a user named cz in the map /home/cz, he should be allwoed to delete files, upload, etc
[01:55] <mmmiiikkkeee> yea there is an on board ethernet
[01:55] <amphi> ihaveavirus: just reinstall your boot loader if you want
[01:55] <dura> Old, man chmod and man chown
[01:55] <popey> mmmiiikkkeee: is it plugged into anything? if not, that's why the delay
[01:55] <popey> mmmiiikkkeee: if you're not using it you can disable it
[01:55] <pike_> help pike plz: im trying to setup a dchp server like: modem--ubuntu--othercomputer i have 2 nics eth0 and eth1 ubuntu uses eth1 to connect to modem i want to connect other comp to eth0 i declared eth0 in /etc/default/dhcp and put a simple subnet declaration in dhcpd.conf.  but dhcpd -f says no subnet declaration for eth1.
[01:55] <mmmiiikkkeee> its not pluged in and it _IS_ disabled
[01:55] <mmmiiikkkeee> its not a delay it hangs NEVER stops
[01:56] <popey> mmmiiikkkeee: disabled in BIOS or in Ubuntu or both?
[01:56] <mmmiiikkkeee> i disabled it in ubuntu
[01:56] <mmmiiikkkeee> i can try the bios too... but i dont think this is the ethernet causing this??
[01:57] <popey> what's the problem? the delay?
[01:57] <mmmiiikkkeee> it gets stuck on configuring network interfaces
[01:57] <popey> yes, that will be one of your network devices
[01:57] <mmmiiikkkeee> is there a way to look at its log file to see what it was doing at the time?
[01:58] <eugman> +p How can I see all the processes running from the terminal?
[01:58] <popey> eugman: ps -ef
[01:58] <dedalus> hi i try to uninstall gnome-games cause i'm little short on my hard disk and it says it gonna uninstall gnome
[01:58] <popey> eugman: ps -aux
[01:58] <amphi> eugman: ps aux
[01:58] <popey> what he said
[01:58] <popey> he?
[01:58] <dedalus> have you already seen that ?
[01:59] <amphi> dedalus: that's probably just a meta-package that 'includes' the games package
[01:59] <mmmiiikkkeee> the wireless is the only one enabled... so it must be that one... but i knwo it works cause after startup i can 'sudo ifup rausb0' to make it work instantly
[01:59] <popey> dedalus: have you cleaned up your apt repository, that'll free up some space.. "sudo apt-get clean"
[01:59] <dedalus> amphi that's the same for abiword and gnumeric
[01:59] <popey> dedalus: not surprising
[01:59] <ihaveavirus> in fdisk is hda the mbr or hd0?
[02:00] <dedalus> popey yes apt-get autoclean and rm *.deb /var/cache/apt/
[02:00] <popey> dedalus: delete from trash?
[02:00] <mumbles> any hints on getting a wlan setup properly ?
[02:00] <CaptainMorgan> shoot, how do I change the opening of thunderbird so that it opens from an icon? right now it only opens by command line.. I want both options..
[02:00] <mmmiiikkkeee> how do i look at the log files of what it was doing at start up when it says 'configuring network interfaces'
[02:00] <dedalus> popey, what ?
[02:00] <amphi> dedalus: do apt-cache show gnome and see if it says it's a metapackage
[02:01] <popey> dedalus: there's a lovely app for kde called filelight which shows where your disk space has gone.. shame - if you install it, it will install kde libs which will chew up more space
[02:01] <popey> dedalus: not really what you want :)
[02:01] <eugman> How do I select applications without the mouse?
[02:01] <amphi> mumbles: ifconfig, iwconfig, iwlist, /etc/network/interfaces, ...
[02:01] <popey> eugman: ALT+F1
[02:01] <dedalus> popey i'm gonna try cause i've already have kde libs
[02:01] <popey> cool
[02:01] <popey> it's very nice
[02:02] <amphi> eugman: alt-ctrl-f1 if you're in X
[02:02] <Old> how do i give full access to a user named cz in the map /home/cz, he should be allwoed to delete files, upload, etc
[02:02] <amphi> eugman: but you mean gui stuff perhaps?
[02:03] <lasindi> Hi all, I am looking at getting a PPC Mac on which I'm going to install Ubuntu/Kubuntu. Since I do 3D game programming, I was wondering: what is the state of OpenGL-acceleration for graphics drivers in PPC Linux? I know that NVIDIA doesn't release any PPC drivers, so is ATI the way to go?
[02:03] <popey> amphi: i think he means how to get the menu up
[02:03] <amphi> popey: ah... I thought you were directing him to a console ;) (I don't use gnome myself)
[02:03] <popey> :)
[02:04] <popey> if he's done CTRL+ALT+F1 we may have lost him for good now.. ;)
[02:04] <amphi> heh
[02:04] <Jowi> Old: see the line "Umask 022 022" in the proftpd.conf?
[02:04] <CaptainMorgan> ok, this wiki is incorrect.. just messed up everything concerning thunderbird
[02:05] <gnomefreak> CaptainMorgan: what wiki?
[02:05] <CaptainMorgan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion?highlight=%28thunderbird%29
[02:05] <slackern> lasindi, i haven't got any knowledge about ppc but the ATi drivers are much worse than Nvidias so not quite sure what to answer :)
[02:05] <gnomefreak> what happened?
[02:05] <CaptainMorgan> I can't open thunderbird ow
[02:05] <popey> lasindi: indeed, binary drivers for linux for ppc are few and far between
[02:06] <amphi> CaptainMorgan: just use mutt like decent folk ;)
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> i have my previous settings from the older version and i want to place thme in the new folder but I don't know where that new folder is...
[02:06] <slackern> lasindi, you would be much better of with a regular x86 processor and an nvidia card.
[02:06] <joedj> amphi: not seeing much in /usr/share/doc/mencoder either
[02:06] <popey> slackern: you can't tell mac people that!
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> older version is not functional, and the new one won't open from an icon
[02:06] <popey> slackern: next you'll tell him to get an Intel mac :)
[02:06] <amphi> CaptainMorgan: ~/.mozilla-thunderbird? ~/.thunderbird?
[02:06] <slackern> popey, of course i can otherwise i would lie :)
[02:06] <popey> :)
[02:06] <gnomefreak> CaptainMorgan: did you use the symlink?
[02:06] <amphi> joedj: did you install the mplayer-doc package?
[02:07] <paradizelost> whatever you do, don't open an xterm and type just    # cat /dev/urandom
[02:07] <paradizelost> :D
[02:07] <lasindi> slackern: well, bad drivers are better than no drivers. ;-)
[02:07] <Phoul> Excuse me the dist upgrade command is what?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> Phoul: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:07] <Phoul> odd...
[02:07] <Phoul> *looks at code*
[02:07] <amphi> paradizelost: why not?
[02:07] <CaptainMorgan> popey, it's bashing me.. saying it's a directory...
[02:07] <slackern> lasindi, thats true, but it might not be fun if they crash on you in the middle of some work or something, i was thinking like that.
[02:08] <popey> lasindi: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html note lack of ppc drivers
[02:08] <lasindi> slackern: part of why I'm looking at getting a PPC machine is so that I can port the program I'm working on to PPC Linux and resolve any issues like endianess
[02:08] <Phoul> sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade
[02:08] <Phoul> whats wrong with that line then
[02:08] <lasindi> popey: yeah that's what I looked at too
[02:08] <joedj> Phoul: the dist-upgrade isn't run as root
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Phoul: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:08] <slackern> 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[02:08] <popey> lasindi: you're screwed I'm afriad
[02:08] <dura> or apt-get upgrade
[02:08] <mpmc> Hmm.. I seem to be missing something, Whenever I launch something it doesn't appear in the task bar :s
[02:08] <amphi> lasindi: you could use qemu if you just need to test for endianness issues
[02:08] <paradizelost> it really does some funky shiat
[02:08] <joedj> amphi: i did now. no change to what's in /usr/share/doc/mencoder-k6
[02:08] <dura> apt-get upgrade doesn't do major system packages iirc
[02:09] <slackern> sorry it should be dist-upgrade as gnomefreak said.
[02:09] <CaptainMorgan> oh..
[02:09] <popey> amphi: he still won't get 3d acceleration though
[02:09] <amphi> joedj: look under /usr/share/doc/mplayer then perhaps
[02:09] <CaptainMorgan> nevermind.. got it
[02:09] <amphi> popey: indeed not - but you don't need that to check for endian issues ;)
[02:09] <dura> For some reason apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade do different things.
[02:09] <CaptainMorgan> i have two files, one mozilla-thunderbird and the other thunderbird... just gotta copy now..
[02:09] <LinuxJones> dura: apt-get upgrade upgrades all your packages that you have installed
[02:09] <joedj> amphi: this looks a bit more substantial :)
[02:09] <popey> amphi: you don't know his app ;p maybe he does
[02:10] <lasindi> amphi: ooh, you're right; but I'm also looking at porting to OS X from Linux, so I can't use OS X under emulation
[02:10] <amphi> joedj: there's a section on vcd/svcd creation
[02:10] <joedj> amphi: ah yes, i see it now
[02:10] <popey> lasindi: what language?
[02:10] <amphi> lasindi: proprietary fun :(
[02:10] <dura> LinuxJones, What does apt-get dist-upgrade do then?
[02:10] <lasindi> amphi: indeed, silly Apple
[02:10] <dura> From my expierence.. apt-get dist-upgrade installs/upgrades more stuff then apt-get upgrade
[02:10] <lasindi> popey: C++
[02:10] <LinuxJones> dura: dist-upgrade is for upgrading to the next major release (which might have some new software requirements, and will install additional components as necessary)
[02:10] <amphi> joedj: you'll need vcdimager (vcdtools?) and cdrdao too (it's a while since I messed with vcd)
[02:11] <dura> ahh okay
[02:11] <dura> Makes sense then...
[02:11] <ihaveavirus> i always run dist-upgrade
[02:11] <dura> I do both every morning
[02:11] <popey> LinuxJones: that's not technically true
[02:11] <ihaveavirus> specially cause im on dapper
[02:11] <senare> hello all i got a quikie ... how do i play a mp3 from command promt ? (no graphical gui ...)
[02:11] <lasindi> popey: by the way, are there *any* ATI PPC drivers with acceleration?
[02:11] <dura> after apt-get update of course
[02:11] <dura> ihaveavirus, How is that?
[02:11] <popey> lasindi: dunno, i have an nvidia dell
[02:11] <LinuxJones> dura: yeah basically you only do a dist upgrade every 6 months or so :)
[02:11] <tatters> bytes /sec    = 1,700,474  how many MB per sec is that?  1 7mb or 1.7
[02:11] <dura> I got another box for testing... was gonna install it
[02:11] <ihaveavirus> its great im running compiz:D
[02:11] <popey> LinuxJones: no!
[02:11] <dura> LinuxJones, hehe
[02:11] <LinuxJones> popey: ok so how does it work ?
[02:11] <popey> LinuxJones: I dist-upgrade every day
[02:11] <tatters> or 170 kb
[02:11] <ihaveavirus> but samba is broken
[02:11] <dura> ihaveavirus, Nice
[02:12] <Jowi> senare: mpg123
[02:12] <dura> Bah who needs samba...
[02:12] <popey> LinuxJones: upgrade upgrades packages without installing new stuff
[02:12] <amphi> lasindi: the xorg drivers have 3d accel up to R280 radeons
[02:12] <LinuxJones> popey: what distro are you using ?
[02:12] <dura> Get rid of windows
[02:12] <dura> :)
[02:12] <senare> oki thanx !
[02:12] <popey> LinuxJones: dist-upgrade upgrades and pulls in new dependancies if required
[02:12] <popey> LinuxJones: doesn't matter it's the same on all debian based distros
[02:12] <ihaveavirus> I would if there was yahoo voice chat for linux:D
[02:12] <ihaveavirus> i still dual boot
[02:12] <LinuxJones> popey: like I said right ?
[02:12] <slackern> lasindi, not sure but maybe matrox has something to offer?
[02:12] <lasindi> amphi: okay thanks, I wasn't going to get a high-end Mac anyway, so that should work
[02:12] <gnomefreak> upgrade wont grab kernels among other things
[02:12] <popey> LinuxJones: no, you indicated you only do dist-upgrade to do a "major release" upgrade, which isn't true
[02:12] <amphi> tatters: FFS, are you still asking that? 1.7 million bytes ~= 1.5MB
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> BOOM! got it.. alright thanks to the helpers. cheers
[02:13] <lasindi> slackern: haven't looked into it; does Apple sell Macs with Matrox cards?
[02:13] <amphi> lasindi: man radeon has the details
[02:13] <slackern> lasindi, http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/3rd_party/home.cfm i was just checking here and saw both linux and ppc
[02:13] <dibblego> can CD/DVD Creator burn a CD ISO image?
[02:13] <popey> lasindi: aren't ppc macs going away? do you *need* to port to them?
[02:13] <tatters> yup lol thnx hmm 1.5 is way slow
[02:13] <slackern> and i remember matrox atleast used to be very nice on linux machines, but that may have changed.
[02:14] <popey> mmmm matrox pahrelia triple headed goodness
[02:14] <LinuxJones> popey: umm, if your using the development version which nobody in here is techincally supposed to be using, dist-upgrade is ok. There is no need to do it on stable release of ubuntu
[02:14] <amphi> dibblego: dunno, but you can easily do it with cdrecord
[02:14] <lasindi> popey: perhaps not, but PPC is still cool
[02:14] <dura> http://lfs1.no-ip.org and http://duralnux.no-ip.org
[02:14] <Stormx2> How do I change the group of files in a directory in terminal?
[02:14] <popey> LinuxJones: it's *irrelavent* what you're on
[02:14] <dura> A friend has a site up here also... I'm hosting for him
[02:14] <ihaveavirus> dura, what type of servers do you run?
[02:14] <popey> LinuxJones: dist-upgrade works the same on every single one
[02:14] <ihaveavirus> oh
[02:14] <amphi> lasindi: and there's still pegasos (if they're still going)
[02:14] <ihaveavirus> oops
[02:14] <dura> ihaveavirus, Well... everything heh
[02:14] <dura> apache, ftp, nfs, samba, ntp, bootp
[02:15] <Lorny> guess whos back agai
[02:15] <LinuxJones> popey: well if features and new components are frozen why dist-upgrade in Breezy ?
[02:15] <GTroy> !eggdrop
[02:15] <ubotu> GTroy: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:15] <slackern> Stormx2, 'sudo chown <user>:<group> *' without <>
[02:15] <popey> LinuxJones: why not?
[02:15] <Stormx2> Lorny: is it... you?!
[02:15] <Lorny> i have a dual boot question
[02:15] <gnomefreak> Lorny: ask
[02:15] <Stormx2> slackern: Cheers, but I figured chgrp did that too :
[02:15] <War> Hi .. How can I configure the spell-checker on a other language than the default .. lets say gnome be on  English and the spell checker on Spanish...
[02:16] <slackern> Stormx2, aye, theres a couple of approaches to it :)
[02:16] <LinuxJones> popey: because nothing new is being implimented and an upgrade will suffice
[02:16] <Lorny> ok so I had ubuntu installed first and then installed 2000 prof...
[02:16] <ihaveavirus> dura, are you an entrepeneur?
[02:16] <popey> LinuxJones: every machine I own does an "apt-get update && apt-get -d dist-upgrade" overnight, every night
[02:16] <Lorny> (on seperate drives)
[02:16] <dura> ihaveavirus, Ehh... sort of
[02:16] <dura> Why?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> Lorny: you need to install grub again
[02:16] <Stormx2> Oh god, WIKI PAGE!
[02:16] <popey> LinuxJones: not always the case
[02:16] <Lorny> except um
[02:16] <Stormx2> !grub
[02:16] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:16] <Lorny> i can boot ubuntu
[02:16] <Lorny> but not windows
[02:16] <gnomefreak> Lorny: windows first ubuntu sec is the best way to go
[02:16] <ihaveavirus> dura, I was looking at one of your sites.. saw alot of adds
[02:16] <dura> Lorny, Be thankful ;)
[02:16] <dura> ihaveavirus, Which site?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> Lorny: you need to reinstall grub
[02:17] <mpmc> Popey: Did you get my message...?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> lol dura
[02:17] <Stormx2> Lorny: Oh wait thats different
[02:17] <popey> mpmc: ?
[02:17] <Lorny> i've tryed following the wiki
[02:17] <Stormx2> Lorny: Yeah you basicly need to reinstall grub
[02:17] <dura> any rather
[02:17] <ihaveavirus> http://duralnux.no-ip.org
[02:17] <Stormx2> Lorny: That wiki is for a different situation
[02:17] <Lorny> and it erm... doesnt help
[02:17] <Stormx2> Lorny: The exact opposite of yours actually
[02:17] <dura> ihaveavirus, oh... those aren't adds just links.
[02:17] <mpmc> popey: I sent you 2 Private messages
[02:17] <popey> mpmc:  I don't read them, get too many
[02:17] <ihaveavirus> oh ic
[02:17] <dura> ihaveavirus, I made the images
[02:17] <Lorny> so how do I get windows to boot now?
[02:17] <mpmc> Ok..
[02:17] <jiping> 
[02:17] <LinuxJones> popey: -d only downloads the packages not install them
[02:17] <jiping> hi
[02:17] <jiping> everybody
[02:17] <ihaveavirus> you don't make money of the clicks duck ?
[02:17] <ihaveavirus> err dura
[02:17] <popey> LinuxJones: I *know* that!
[02:18] <dura> Lorny, Hang on I"ll toss upa grub.conf (menu.lst) for you to look at
[02:18] <popey> LinuxJones: it emails me every day, and i choose whether to install or not
[02:18] <dedalus> popey, filelight is great !!!
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Lorny: i think sudo grub-install or sudo install-grub should fix you <cant remember what order its in> or you need to manully add windows to grub
[02:18] <popey> dedalus: it's lovely isn't it :)
[02:18] <dedalus> sure
[02:18] <|warz|> Hi .. How can I configure the spell-checker on a other language than the default .. lets say gnome be on  English and the spell checker on Spanish...
[02:18] <dedalus> that's great and really well finished
[02:18] <gnomefreak> iirc its grub-install
[02:18] <mpmc> popey: I no longer have taskbar Items, when launching apps <_<
[02:18] <Stormx2> Lorny: Whats wrong with the wiki page? >.< If you figure out what drive name/partition your Win2K install is on, you can just add it in.
[02:18] <ihaveavirus> anyone know the command to make firefox the default browser in gnome?
[02:19] <popey> mpmc: screen resolution problem?
[02:19] <Stormx2> Hi jiping!
[02:19] <LinuxJones> popey: whatever, ask an Ubuntu dev what you outta be using I don't really care if you dist-upgrade. The convention is you use apt-get upgrade noty dist-upgrade on stable releases.
[02:19] <orbish> any ideas on how to get my SPDIF out working?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> night all
[02:19] <ihaveavirus> ciao
[02:19] <dibblego> ihaveavirus: from Firefox, Edit->Preferences->Default Browser
[02:19] <Jowi> bye gnomefreak
[02:19] <ompaul> cheers gnomefreak
[02:19] <ihaveavirus> ty dibblego
[02:20] <gnomefreak> cheers ompaul
[02:20] <popey> LinuxJones: they're my boxen, I'll do what the hell I like with them thank you very much
[02:20] <amphi> LinuxJones: dist-upgrade can pull in new packages, which upgrade will not
[02:20] <popey> amphi: I tried to tell him that
[02:20] <mpmc> popey: Nope, It instead decides to add the item to the other screen's taskbar, but loads on the default monitor :s
[02:20] <amphi> popey: ah ;)
[02:20] <popey> mpmc: you want both monitors on at once?
[02:20] <popey> mpmc: i think that's working as designed
[02:20] <ihaveavirus> brb i need  a restart
[02:20] <slackern> ihaveavirus, you could go to System->Preferences->Prefered Applications also.
[02:21] <Lorny> and how would I go about adding it in Stormx2
[02:21] <popey> time for bed
[02:21] <popey> nn
[02:21] <mpmc> mpmc: Yes, but, I have no taskbars.. If I minized something, I can't get it back.. :s
[02:21] <dura> Lorny, http://duralinux.no-ip.org/config
[02:21] <LinuxJones> amphi: I know that but the stable release doesn't have major upgrades requiring a dist-upgrade otherwise apt-get upgrade is irrelevent and would be depreciated and removed.
[02:21] <mpmc> OMFG
[02:21] <amphi> LinuxJones: eg., a new version of mplayer could be 'held back' in an upgrade, because it now depends on a new lib package; dist-upgrade would install the new package and upgrade mplayer
[02:21] <Stormx2> Lorny: Do you know the drive num/partition nun?
[02:21] <popey> mpmc: can't you run just one screen?
[02:21] <dura> Take a look at menu.lst and grub.conf
[02:21] <popey> no LinuxJones not true
[02:21] <amphi> LinuxJones: no, but people use other repos for such as mplayer
[02:21] <mpmc> I'm going insane, I'm messaging myself now :s
[02:21] <LinuxJones> amphi: is mplayer in Ubuntu base ?
[02:22] <popey> LinuxJones: upgrade is there so you can upgrade packages and know that no new stuff will arrive
[02:22] <dura> lol
[02:22] <amphi> LinuxJones: nope
[02:22] <Determinist> i need someone to do a lookup for deter.ath.cx and tell me the up address you get, if you can please
[02:22] <popey> LinuxJones: dist-upgrade is there so you can be sure you get the latest of every package
[02:22] <ompaul> mpmc, turn off the window manager, i.e. log out and log in again, that can resolve things like that
[02:22] <popey> LinuxJones: you really need to read up about apt
[02:22] <Jowi> mpmc: right click on the taskbar and add a thing for listed windows
[02:22] <amphi> LinuxJones: it can't be, because of US legal b0rkage AFAIK
[02:22] <Jowi> mpmc: (sorry, not using gnome so i forgot the name)
[02:23] <popey> LinuxJones: I have additional repositories so your "nothing new arrives" argument doesn't apply
[02:23] <mpmc> Jowi: thanks that sorted it
[02:23] <mpmc> Sorry, for being a pain in the behind people...
[02:23] <popey> mpmc: I don't think you were
[02:23] <Jowi> mpmc: that's what this channel is for if i'm not mistaken :)(
[02:24] <amphi> mpmc: if you're much mistaken, that's what the channel is for
[02:24] <mpmc> Haha, I've only been really using Linux for a week & a bit.. & I'm already talking to myself!
[02:24] <dura> mpmc, When you start getting answers, worry...
[02:25] <Jowi> mpmc: that's what medications are for (as dura hinted on)
[02:25] <lasindi> amphi: Do know what the state of 3D acceleration for the ATI RagePro is on PPC?
[02:25] <amphi> lasindi: I can say with confidence that I don't
[02:26] <dura> PPC ATi drivers are... sketchy
[02:26] <popey> lasindi: the open source drivers are "ok" but there is no binary driver from ATI
[02:26] <mpmc> Jowi:Ahh earth grooves ^^
[02:26] <lasindi> popey: "ok" meaning 3D acceleration?
[02:26] <Old> Jowi
[02:26] <Old> hey
[02:26] <Old> Im back now
[02:27] <LinuxJones> popey: I know what your saying, my system works just fine as yours does I'm sure. If you want to add 3rd party repos that's your business. Ubuntu base is limited for a reason, you can't support 19,000 packages and universe and multiverse isn't supported software.
[02:27] <ompaul> !enter
[02:27] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[02:27] <amphi> lasindi: I would think the xorg drivers would work similarly as on x86
[02:27] <popey> LinuxJones: give it up please
[02:27] <Lorny> :(
[02:27] <amphi> LinuxJones: debian manages ;)
[02:27] <mpmc> Ok, Here's a real idiotic question for you people, How to I reply to someone (Starting with their name) without copying & pasting.. (using Gaim)
[02:27] <Jowi> hey Old. how is the stuff working?
[02:27] <LinuxJones> popey: you started this foolishness and I am having a few beers and need some entertainment :)
[02:28] <dura> mpmc, hit tab
[02:28] <popey> *sigh*
[02:28] <dura> Like m*tab*
[02:28] <amphi> mpmc: tab-completion? if not, use a decent client (like irssi;)
[02:28] <popey> lasindi:  Up to the 9250 for xorg 6.8 and earlier.
[02:28] <mpmc> Pressing tab does nothing!
[02:28] <dura> popey, For AMD64 also?
[02:28] <dura> mpmc,
[02:28] <popey> lasindi: Up to the 9700 and 9800 for xorg 6.9 and later, with bugs.
[02:28] <dura> What cleint are you using?
[02:28] <mpmc> Gaim
[02:28] <listerner> ubuntu!
[02:28] <dura> heh
[02:28] <LinuxJones> amphi: of course folks in here will help people with Univer/Multiverse software if they can. That's jsut a great community
[02:28] <popey> lasindi: Same as the open drivers for x86
[02:29] <Remy> sifn't use x-chat
[02:29] <Old> Jowi, I cant seem to give the user cz FULL access to /home/cz
[02:29] <orbish> what's the best way to configure alsa?
[02:29] <dura> I'm not sure Gaim has tab support for it's IRC client
[02:29] <popey> dura: pretty much the same yes
[02:29] <paradizelost> dura: yes it does
[02:29] <dura> orbish, alsa-setup
[02:29] <paradizelost> i'm using it now
[02:29] <dura> paradizelost, Okay...
[02:29] <orbish> hmmm not found
[02:29] <paradizelost> each room s a tab, plus each pM is a tab
[02:29] <paradizelost> !gaim
[02:29] <ubotu> gaim is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto
[02:29] <dura> Or is it alsa-config... can't remember
[02:29] <amphi> LinuxJones: I meant Debian, not #debian
[02:30] <dura> paradizelost, He's was asking how to tab complete names in here
[02:30] <paradizelost> dura: yep, mine des.
[02:30] <paradizelost> does
[02:30] <popey> \o/ xchat
[02:30] <LinuxJones> amphi: I wouldn't go into #debian ever again, even for a date with Halle Berry :(
[02:31] <amphi> o/~ irssi o/~
[02:31] <amphi> LinuxJones: you've felt the love? ;)
[02:31] <mpmc> paradizelost: Using tab does nothing, Ctrl+tab moves between tabs :s
[02:31] <amphi> mpmc: get a decent irc client already ;)
[02:31] <paradizelost> mpmc: you may need to check your irc options in preferences
[02:31] <Cooner750> Hello. I wanted to try out the KDE Display Manager without having to install Kubuntu. Can I do this? And can I go back to Gnome if I dont like KDE?
[02:31] <dura> Cooner750, apt-get install kde
[02:32] <Cooner750> what about Gnome?
[02:32] <dura> Yes you'll be able to go back to Gnome
[02:32] <Jowi> Old: is the user in the ftp group? did you change the "umask" value in proftpd.conf?
[02:32] <dura> You'll have a menu to choose what you want to loose...
[02:32] <xOrphenochx> hello, i seem to have a problem with gtk2, i have the dev packages, but nothing sees them when i do a configure
[02:32] <dura> use*
[02:32] <dura> :|
[02:32] <Old> i didnt Jowi
[02:32] <xOrphenochx> err updated dapper this week
[02:32] <Old> what should i change the umask thing to?
[02:32] <paradizelost> there are some extra GAIM plugins in the repositories that add enhancements for rooms
[02:32] <dura> xOrphenochx, Check your $PATH
[02:32] <popey> xOrphenochx: sudo ldconfig ?
[02:33] <xOrphenochx> yeah i did sud ldconfig
[02:33] <LinuxJones> amphi: I got into so many arguments with the 10 retards harning out in there like mwilson I wanted to smash someone's head in. It was too frustrating dealing with big egos, tho there are some great people in that channel !!
[02:33] <xOrphenochx> o+
[02:33] <dura> xOrphenochx, That's not the path
[02:33] <Old> Jowi, what should the umask be ?
[02:33] <amphi> LinuxJones: ah, mwilson...
[02:33] <dura> xOrphenochx, look at ~/.bashrc
[02:33] <dura> or /etc/bashrc
[02:33] <orbish> alsa-setup: command not found ???
[02:33] <dura> ldconfig updates library locations in a special database
[02:33] <LinuxJones> amphi: thankfully we pushed him out of here with his trolling :)
[02:33] <dura> orbish, Try alsa-config
[02:34] <dura> or alsasetup or alsaconfig
[02:34] <amphi> LinuxJones: he's banned from #debian AFAIK
[02:34] <dura> I can't remember off hand... could always google it
[02:34] <Jowi> Old: you could try changing "umask 022 022" to "umask 770 770"
[02:34] <Old> Jowi, and no i didnt add the user to the group ftp.
[02:34] <LinuxJones> amphi: that was due like 4 years ago :D
[02:34] <amphi> paradizelost: your trolling skills are pathetic, if I may say so
[02:34] <Old> kk
[02:34] <ompaul> paradizelost, that would be considered trolling and this is not a conversation channel, it is a ubuntu help channel, and #ubuntu-offtopic has people in it that talk about things such as that
[02:34] <orbish> alsactl, alsamixer, alsamixergui are the only alsa commands i have
[02:34] <dura> I got banned from #debian
[02:34] <xOrphenochx> sigh, what am i looking for?
[02:34] <Old> how do add the user to the group ?
[02:34] <dura> for some reaosn
[02:34] <Jowi> Old: type "groups cz"
[02:34] <dura> Old, usermod
[02:34] <paradizelost> oh, fine, nm.....
[02:34] <paradizelost> i was trying to be funny...
[02:35] <Old> Jowi, yeah and? :D
[02:35] <Old> it answered with cz : cz
[02:35] <dura> Old, usermod
[02:35] <Old> dura, im talking to Jowi
[02:35] <Jowi> Old: if "ftp" is listed there then it is in the group
[02:35] <Old> its not listed
[02:35] <_harm> Can someone help me out, i want to convert a harddrive from SFS to FAT32 is this possible without losing anyfiles?
[02:36] <Old> how do i add it to the group then Jowi ?
[02:36] <amphi> _harm: highly unlikely
[02:36] <dura> _harm, Make a backup first
[02:36] <paradizelost> _harm: you can copy the data to a different hard drive, format the old one, and copy data back
[02:36] <Jowi> Old: "adduser the_username ftp"
[02:36] <dura> Or usermod -g <groupname> username
[02:36] <Jowi> Old: or what dura said. same thing different methods
[02:37] <_harm> amphi dura and paradizelost, i cannot make a backup (size=70GB) > but cant i just convert the file system?
[02:37] <dura> _harm, No
[02:37] <_harm> dura... Dang :S this makes me sad
[02:37] <dura> _harm, Find a way to make a backup, stick with the file system that's there, or deal with the data loss.
[02:37] <_harm> dura but u can chance FAT into NTSF without data loss
[02:37] <dura> Should *always* have a current backup anyway
[02:37] <Old> Jowi
[02:37] <paradizelost> _harm: no, you'll have to backup and reformat
[02:37] <aktiv[b] > is there any command to replace all spaces with _ in a bunch of files?
[02:38] <amphi> _harm: I'd say not
[02:38] <Old> gives me alot of permission denied when i try to enter folder
[02:38] <Old> folders*
[02:38] <dura> _harm, Yes... but NTFS and FAT32 aren't like linux file systems
[02:38] <Old> should i perhaps restart the server?
[02:38] <Old> the ftp server?
[02:38] <mpmc> Ok, I'm using Xchat now :D
[02:38] <paradizelost> _harm: IIRC, that's the SecureFIleSystem i.e. encrypted
[02:38] <dura> lol mpmc
[02:38] <xOrphenochx> so what am i looking for, dura?
[02:38] <amphi> somewhat ;)
[02:38] <Jowi> Old: ok, first of all. what did you change (if you did change) the umask value to?
[02:38] <McNutella> ello folks :)
[02:38] <Cooner750> still installing KDE....
[02:38] <paradizelost> _harm: also, those are both WINDOWS filesystems, and M$ has made the programs to make the conversion
[02:38] <dura> xOrphenochx, What file are you looking at?
[02:38] <_harm> paradizelost iam aware of that but i dont want the encrypted stuff anymore cuz i cant seem to be able 2 write to it
[02:38] <Old> the thing you said
[02:39] <McNutella> when a new version of ubuntu comes out. would i have to do a fresh reinstall, or will I be able to install dapper-drake over 5.10?
[02:39] <Old> or, erm
[02:39] <Old> one secnod
[02:39] <xOrphenochx> bashrc was empty, and i dont know what to look for in my .bashrc
[02:39] <amphi> McNutella: you will be able to dist-upgrade
[02:39] <Old> Umask                                770 770
[02:39] <bradley_> i am using a wireless router that has a built-in fire wall does any one know how to alter it. (it seems to be blocking torrents)
[02:39] <McNutella> amphi: so thats pretty easy to acheive ?
[02:39] <dura> xOrphenochx, Compare the path in bashrc to where GTK2 is actually located in the file system, and if the path to GTK2 isn't listed, add it.
[02:39] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[02:39] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:39] <dura> bradley_, Depends on the router...
[02:39] <dura> some can not be changed
[02:39] <amphi> McNutella: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade should do it
[02:39] <Old> Jowi, still gives a few permission denied...
[02:40] <paradizelost> amphi: that won't do it if he isn't configured to use dapper...
[02:40] <xOrphenochx> ok how would i add it?
[02:40] <bradley_> dura-- it is a d-link airplus xtreme g
[02:40] <paradizelost> ohh, nm misunderstood the ?
[02:40] <amphi> paradizelost: if he has 'stable' in his sources.list...
[02:40] <dura> xOrphenochx, open the file with a text editor using sudo
[02:40] <Jowi> Old: and you are using a normal account and not a anonymous account?
[02:40] <Old> normal account
[02:40] <Old> the CZ account
[02:40] <McNutella> so lets try this again, will I goto the webpage, or will I apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:41] <paradizelost> bradley_: you do  # route                   and then you open the default gateway's ip address in firefox
[02:41] <amphi> paradizelost: or does ubuntu not use that?
[02:41] <Cooner750> The partition Ubuntu is on is the only one that could fill up, correct? It's not going to overwrite other data?
[02:41] <amphi> Cooner750: yes
[02:41] <mumbles> still no luck
[02:41] <amphi> Cooner750: and no ;)
[02:41] <Cooner750> it takes forever to setup kde, and this is on a 2.2Ghz Athlon XP w/ 704MB RAM
[02:41] <Old> brb a few minutes Jowi, going for a smoke and a cup of coffee, let me know what todo. i get alot of permission denie ddwhen i try to enter a few folders in /home/cz , the umask is what you told me
[02:42] <bradley_> what is '# route' and the 'gateway's ip address'?
[02:42] <amphi> Cooner750: thus I use openbox ;)
[02:42] <dura> brb
[02:42] <xOrphenochx> and the stuff i "add"
[02:42] <amphi> bradley_: the ip address of your router
[02:42] <Cooner750> Now, KDE is done. Do I log out or restart?
[02:42] <paradizelost> bradley_: the # notes you should be typing it on console
[02:42] <dura> xOrphenochx, Yes
[02:43] <dura> do like nano -w ~/.bashrc
[02:43] <xOrphenochx> no, what "Is" the stuff i add?
[02:43] <paradizelost> bradley_: usually, the address is gonna be like 192.168.0.1 or something like that
[02:43] <paradizelost> bradley_: did the router come w/ a manual?
[02:43] <dura> Make the changes, save, exit, log out and back in
[02:43] <dura> xOrphenochx, The path to gtk2
[02:43] <dura> like /usr/share/gtk2 or whatever it is
[02:43] <Cooner750> A router web access is usually 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1
[02:43] <xOrphenochx> oh ok, thought it needed something else
[02:44] <jay_side> hey guys
[02:44] <bradley_> i found the ip-- and i am looking for the manual now
[02:44] <dura> xOrphenochx, nope...
[02:44] <paradizelost> hey jay_side
[02:44] <mpmc> popey: How do I kill the second Xserver for the TV?
[02:44] <jay_side> how do i gain access to root user on Ubuntu live
[02:44] <paradizelost> bradley_: the ip is the big thing
[02:44] <dura> jay_side, sudo
[02:44] <paradizelost> type that address into firefox
[02:44] <Warlord384> ugh
[02:44] <paradizelost> as the address
[02:44] <popey> mpmc: second x server?
[02:44] <jay_side> dura ok thanx
[02:44] <Warlord384> everytime someone says jay it highlights
[02:44] <popey> mpmc: it's one server isn't it?
[02:44] <Cooner750> Should I restart or log out/in after installing KDE?
[02:45] <bradley_> no just a quick install guide
[02:45] <dura> Cooner750, Just logout
[02:45] <mpmc> popey: I dunno, I just wanna kill the TV screen..
[02:45] <Cooner750> brb. Hopefully this works. What about my current applications?... Do those work in KDE also?
[02:45] <eneried> hello, anybody knows if is there any irc here about fedoracore?
[02:45] <aktiv[b] > how can you deactivate/ignore/unmount a single usbdevice ?
[02:45] <paradizelost> eneried: try #fedora
[02:46] <dura> eneried, /join #fedora
[02:46] <lwizardl> hi
[02:46] <amphi> eneried: #fedora perhaps?
[02:46] <popey> aktiv[b] : right click the icon on the desktop and eject/unmount?
[02:46] <jay_side> eneried try #linux-noob
[02:46] <jay_side> they are mostly about fedora
[02:46] <amphi> aktiv[b] : sudo umount /mount/point
[02:46] <lwizardl> where is the best place to install jre ?
[02:46] <Cooner750> br
[02:46] <Cooner750> b
[02:46] <popey> lwizardl: are you using make-jpkg ?
[02:47] <ompaul> !java
[02:47] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:47] <bradley_> how do i open the default gateway's ip address (or maybe what is a default gateway)?
[02:47] <lwizardl> no just using it to run a java app
[02:47] <jay_side> after i do sudo what do i do to gain access as root level user?
[02:47] <paradizelost> bradley_: the ip address you found
[02:47] <aktiv[b] > yeah but it's not mounted, its an usb keyboard
[02:47] <popey> bradley_: route  will tell you what the default gateway is
[02:47] <paradizelost> bradley_: type that into the address bar of a web browser
[02:47] <eneried> thanks boys i'll try
[02:47] <popey> aktiv[b] : just unplug it
[02:47] <jay_side> once i do sudo the terminal asks me to enter another flag
[02:47] <dura> jay_side, try typing sudo passwd
[02:48] <jay_side> dura got it!!
[02:48] <jay_side> ty dura
[02:48] <satan> whats the command to install xubuntu to the harddrive from the livecd?
[02:48] <dura> yw
[02:48] <Cooner750> Ok.. I logged out and back in and it just loads Gnome like normal...?
[02:48] <dura> Cooner750, Youhave to choose KDE from the session menu
[02:48] <snakka> anyone have an external drive (USB or firewire) they like?
[02:48] <Cooner750> Oh. Let me try again
[02:48] <Cooner750> brb
[02:49] <paradizelost> satan: i don't recommend that
[02:49] <bradley_> i typed it in but it said that the connection was refused
[02:49] <paradizelost> bradley_: try the instructions the manual tells you
[02:49] <dura> snakka, yes I do
[02:49] <satan> paradizelost: no, eh?
[02:49] <aktiv[b] > no see i have one keyboard&mouse in an usbswitch which is connected to two computers, but the controlling software is for windows, so it is recognized as an usb hub, but if there is an commandline, I could make aliases to enable and disable it on the two machines
[02:49] <paradizelost> satan: i would use an install cd
[02:49] <satan> paradizelost: best to install from the install cd?
[02:49] <snakka> dura what brand?
[02:49] <dura> Western Digital
[02:49] <satan> paradizelost: ok cool, any particular reason?
[02:49] <snakka> thx
[02:49] <dura> 180gb 7200RPm USB 2.0
[02:50] <snakka> what do you use for backup (s/w)?
[02:50] <adambrady> Is there anyway that I can back up my evolution email? I need to reinstall and don't want to loose my email.
[02:50] <dura> cp and mv
[02:50] <dura> :)
[02:50] <popey> satan: the website suggests the prefered method to install is NOT the install cd
[02:50] <paradizelost> satan: there have been issues sometimes installing from livecd's
[02:50] <snakka> tres recherche!
[02:50] <popey> satan: but the live cd
[02:50] <paradizelost> satan: if your doing a new install i'd use dapper
[02:50] <paradizelost> !flight7
[02:50] <ubotu> flight7 is, like, totally, available via http://www.ubuntu.com/testing, or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[02:50] <satan> paradizelost: yes it is a new install, xubuntu is dapper 6.06 right?
[02:50] <snakka> i was thinking of using mondo rescue cuz i have windows and ubuntu on the same disk
[02:50] <popey> "The desktop CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. This type of CD is what most people will want to use. There are three images available, each for a different type of computer:"
[02:50] <jay_side> if i uninstall ubuntu is there anyway of clearing up LILO or GRUB from MBR so that only Windows loads
[02:51] <satan> popey: oh really? that contradicts what paradizelost is saying though...confused
[02:51] <dura> snakka, That may work.. I only bother backing up linux
[02:51] <popey> jay_side: use the dos program fdisk - not the linux one "fdisk /mbr"
[02:51] <popey> satan: that's what the site says"
[02:51] <amphi> jay_side: consult your windows manual for how to restore the windows mbr
[02:51] <dura> I have one windows box that gets used for firewall/viri/trojan testing
[02:51] <popey> satan: the graphical installer is very nice though :)
[02:51] <popey> (on the live cd)
[02:51] <jay_side> popey and amphi thanks guys
[02:51] <satan> popey: ok
[02:52] <jay_side> also, is there a vpn client for ubuntu?
[02:52] <snakka> if i had another system i would just use each for its own os
[02:52] <popey> jay_side: yes, pptp
[02:52] <dura> jay_side, Yes
[02:52] <jay_side> ok thnx guys
[02:52] <dura> snakka, You could make partitions on the drive
[02:52] <dura> one for linux one for windows
[02:52] <dura> brb daughter needs me
[02:52] <Cooner750> Ok. I got KDE working. Good. But what in the world happened to the theming of programs like Firefox and XChat here? It looks like Windows 9x
[02:52] <snakka> oh i have that's how it works
[02:53] <xOrphenochx> well that didnt work
[02:54] <Cooner750> anyone?
[02:54] <adambrady> anyone have any idea? If I copy all the files from home/username/.evolution/mail will that work?
[02:54] <xOrphenochx> let me just resay whats wrong, configure cant find the gtk2 dev packages, ive had it working before i updated last week
[02:54] <__dante__> http://monstersgame.it/?ac=vid&vid=16019407
[02:55] <amphi> xOrphenochx: try #ubuntu+1
[02:55] <Jowi> Cooner750: KDE should have a setting for what should be done with programs that uses gtk themes.... check the control panel thing for kde and you will find it
[02:56] <Cooner750> The apps menu has full to the brim in each categorey because of KDE apps as well as ones from Ubuntu originally lol
[02:57] <RayFredPip> hello,how to compile kernel?
[02:57] <RayFredPip> what's the newest version of kernel ?
[02:57] <Tedd> 2.6.14 I believe.
[02:58] <amphi> Tedd: no...
[02:58] <popey> in ubuntu? or the plain kernel?
[02:58] <amphi> RayFredPip: see kernel.org
[02:58] <popey> 2.6.16.16 at kernel.org
[02:58] <RayFredPip> hehe~~ Tedd no,it is 2.6.16
[02:58] <Tedd> amphi, I said I believe for a reason :P
[02:58] <popey> Linux hactar 2.6.15-20-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 4 18:37:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:58] <amphi> RayFredPip: install kernel-package for a start
[02:58] <RayFredPip> so how to compile the new one 2.6.16?
[02:58] <popey> that's what I've got on dapper
[02:59] <amphi> RayFredPip: why do you need it?
[02:59] <RayFredPip> kernel-package? a tool?
[02:59] <bradley_> i am in to the 'fire wall rules tab'. there are a few places where i can add details-- the only one that makes sense to me is 'name action' which i can either enable or disable, allow or deny. what is an action?
[02:59] <bradley_> is it the specific program
[02:59] <RayFredPip> amphi, need what ?2.6.16?because mine is old ,2.6.12
[03:00] <amphi> RayFredPip: apt-cache show kernel-package - it's a tool for building kernel packages the 'debian way'
[03:00] <popey> RayFredPip: but what do you *need* it for?
[03:00] <amphi> RayFredPip: and what features of the new kernel do you require?
[03:01] <RayFredPip> popey, it is a new one ,so I think it works more steadly than the old
[03:01] <lwizardl> !mp3
[03:01] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:01] <RayFredPip> amphi, I don t know
[03:01] <popey> RayFredPip: you will spend a lot of effort for very little gain, there's no point if you have no reason to go to 2.6.16
[03:01] <amphi> RayFredPip: that is unlikely ;) do you have stability problems with the current kernel?
[03:01] <lkj1> How do I fix a "broken" package? Libc6 is broken according to synaptic.
[03:02] <dura> apt-get repair packagename iirc
[03:02] <RayFredPip> amphi, not really
[03:02] <amphi> RayFredPip: OTOH, if you want to build a kernel for educational reasons, go for it
[03:02] <dura> man apt for details
[03:02] <amphi> RayFredPip: but "if it ain't broke don't fix it" is a wise saying IMHO
[03:02] <RayFredPip> popey, hum...maybe there is actually no good reasons
[03:02] <lkj1> LOL amphi, U R HO
[03:02] <popey> seriously, since I've been on ubuntu I've not recompiled the kernel at all
[03:02] <amphi> RayFredPip: there's a [probably out of date]  howto at kernel.org
[03:03] <brokengun> im installing ubuntu on my ibook tomorrow, im excited!
[03:03] <dura> popey, Good
[03:03] <eneried> lol
[03:03] <amphi> RayFredPip: er, at tldp.org
[03:03] <dura> I dual boot this laptop with ubuntu and Gentoo
[03:03] <dura> using*
[03:03] <dura> hehe
[03:03] <RayFredPip> amphi, I give up now
[03:03] <amphi> dura: gentoo broke your keyboard? ;)
[03:03] <dura> heh no...
[03:03] <dura> just my mind...
[03:03] <popey> RayFredPip: if you really must then read this.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto#
[03:04] <RayFredPip> amphi, I think it is not easy for me and it is dangerous
[03:04] <dura> Actually, Gentoo hasn't broken itself in like 7 months now... must be some sort of record
[03:04] <lkj1> !uboto broken
[03:04] <ubotu> lkj1: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:04] <popey> RayFredPip: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageDetailedHowto and that
[03:04] <RayFredPip> popey, thanks
[03:04] <amphi> RayFredPip: you're unlikely to do worse than build non-booting kernel
[03:05] <myren> HElP!
[03:05] <steveire> ok.
[03:05] <myren> my keyboard map is $@~$@#'d up
[03:05] <dura> man this channel is busy
[03:05] <dura> kinda nice for a change
[03:05] <mpmc> dura: It's the week end
[03:05] <dura> Indeed
[03:05] <RayFredPip> amphi, I hope not
[03:06] <Cooner750> I cant seem to find the KDE control panel in the mess of a Application menu. Anyone know the command to bring it up?
[03:06] <dura> is the new Ubuntu out for AMD64 also?
[03:06] <Curalton> Cooner750: kcontrol
[03:06] <dura> <--- hasn't checked releases yet
[03:07] <dura> mpmc, Install Gentoo
[03:07] <dura> Than you won't be bored :)
[03:08] <mpmc> dura: Ahem, thats way to hard for me
[03:08] <dura> mpmc, Really? Not that advanced yet?
[03:08] <mpmc> dura: Nope
[03:08] <dura> My first Gentoo install was Gentoo 1.1a back in 1999
[03:08] <dura> on a Compaq US1800 laptop
[03:08] <dura> mpmc, Got an extra box laying around for testing/learning?
[03:09] <dura> imo that's the best way to learn linux
[03:09] <mpmc> dura: Nope
[03:09] <egg_> howdy yall
[03:09] <dura> Hello egg_
[03:09] <amphi> RayFredPip: kernel-package will make a nice deb of your kernel and modules that you can install with dpkg; if it doesn't boot/work, you can just reboot your old ubuntu install kernel
[03:09] <dura> mpmc, You should get one... an old PII 233 or something
[03:09] <amphi> dura: for gentoo? that'll be pleasant ;(
[03:09] <egg_> I'm new to Ubuntu (but not Linux)... how do I get headers and man pages installed?
[03:10] <dura> mpmc, I run my website on a Compaq Deskpro 4000... it has 96mb of RAM and a Pentium Pro 180MHz CPU... and two hard drives.
[03:10] <egg_> is there any magical package that will bring everething?
[03:10] <orbish> i loved gentoo, but hated the compile times
[03:10] <dura> egg_, apt-get install packagename
[03:10] <dura> orbish, Yeah that can get to suck after a while.
[03:10] <mpmc> dura: Nice.. I wish, I could do that..
[03:10] <amphi> egg_: manpages-dev I believe
[03:10] <dura> Thankfully I have fast laptops
[03:10] <egg_> dura, ... this will take forever
[03:10] <WhatTheDeuce> Hey.  What's a good Bit torrent client that works on Ubuntu?  I'm running the beta version, and azureus isn't working, so I need to try something else.
[03:10] <dura> egg_,  What would take forever?
[03:10] <amphi> egg_: and build-essential
[03:11] <AlinuxOS> duck, fast? with 7200 rpm HD?
[03:11] <dura> egg_, Try apt-cache search foo to find a package name
[03:11] <egg_> installing every single developer package
[03:11] <amphi> egg_: for what?
[03:11] <dura> AlinuxOS, The hard drive is attached to a Celeron 600
[03:11] <AlinuxOS> dura, fast? with 7200 rpm HD?
[03:11] <AlinuxOS> ah
[03:11] <dura> I was referring to my laptops.
[03:11] <sarixe> anyone know how to get r-xr-xr-x on ntfs?
[03:12] <orbish> offtopic: i keep finding dog hair in my mouth, quite irritating
[03:12] <AlinuxOS> permissions on NTFS? is it possible?
[03:12] <sarixe> um...
[03:12] <dura> no
[03:12] <sarixe> i hope
[03:12] <sarixe> ...
[03:12] <dura> MTFS doesn't do permissions
[03:12] <dura> like that
[03:12] <sarixe> no
[03:12] <NChief> yes, but not legal
[03:12] <egg_> well, for a start... I'm trying to compile a simple program that uses math.h
[03:12] <dura> copy what you need to a native linux partition and then do what you need to do
[03:12] <sarixe> i mean mount it with the folder with r-xr-xr-x
[03:12] <RayFredPip> clear
[03:12] <dura> egg_, What package is math.h part of?
[03:13] <mpmc> rofl! Can any of you play HD on Ubuntu?
[03:13] <sarixe> not permissions on the files themselves
[03:13] <egg_> dura, good question... I allways found it installed by default in other distros
[03:13] <sarixe> try #include <cmath>
[03:13] <dura> egg_, Hmm... tried http://www.google.com/linux ?
[03:13] <egg_> yep
[03:14] <dura> ok
[03:14] <dura> let me check something
[03:14] <AlinuxOS> maybe someone knows some software similar to Dreamweaver MX?
[03:14] <mpmc> dura: What connection you got?
[03:14] <WhatTheDeuce> AlinuxOS: Nvu is pretty similar
[03:14] <NoUse> AlinuxOS you can try Quanta
[03:14] <sarixe> anyway, how do i mount ntfs with r-x permissions on the mountpoint?
[03:15] <AlinuxOS> nvu? I don't like it :/
[03:15] <Cooner750> Where do I change the settings it uses for Gtk?
[03:15] <RayFredPip> is there any good postscript viewer on ubuntu ?
[03:15] <Cooner750> All gtk themed apps are very ugly
[03:15] <AlinuxOS> quanta...
[03:15] <dura> egg_,  http://ecos.sourceware.org/docs-1.3.1/ref/ecos-ref.15.html
[03:15] <AlinuxOS> hm I'll try it!
[03:15] <skwid> is there a gui to reconfigure grub ????
[03:15] <amphi> egg_: I believe you must link with -lm
[03:15] <RayFredPip> is there any good postscript viewer on ubuntu ?
[03:15] <mpmc> !kill
[03:15] <ubotu> hmm... kill is a command for getting rid of unwanted processes, usage: kill [-signal]  PID.  Signals are numbers: -15 is general exit, -9 forces quit.  See manual page for more.
[03:15] <dura> AlinuxOS, You may like NVU or Bluefish better
[03:15] <amphi> skwid: no
[03:15] <skwid> it can't find my windows partition anymore :S
[03:15] <egg_> I'm doing that
[03:15] <mpmc> <_<.. not that kill <_<
[03:15] <dura> pkill
[03:15] <dura> killall
[03:15] <dura> killall -9
[03:16] <RayFredPip> !pkill
[03:16] <ubotu> RayFredPip: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:16] <skwid> amphi: how do i tell it to find my windows :)
[03:16] <amphi> RayFredPip: gv is ok
[03:16] <AlinuxOS> Bluefish is not what you see is what you get. :(
[03:16] <RayFredPip> amphi, OK
[03:16] <dura> AlinuxOS, Oh didn't know you wanted a wysiwyg editor
[03:16] <dura> sorry
[03:16] <amphi> skwid: perhaps your windows no longer exists ;) have a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:16] <AlinuxOS> dura, ;)
[03:16] <skwid> amphi: yeah that's where i am
[03:16] <amphi> RayFredPip: the -spartan option is pleasant IMHO
[03:16] <AlinuxOS> dura where are you from ?
[03:17] <dura> I just use nano for web pages :)
[03:17] <skwid> title		Windows XP Home
[03:17] <skwid> root		(hd0,0)
[03:17] <dura> Or emacs...
[03:17] <AlinuxOS> nano :D
[03:17] <AlinuxOS> looolz
[03:17] <skwid> what should i change that to ?
[03:17] <dura> AlinuxOS, Minnesota
[03:17] <amphi> skwid: no
[03:17] <RayFredPip> amphi, what is IMHO?
[03:17] <dura> I love nano... fast, small, easy to use...
[03:17] <amphi> skwid: did you change it?
[03:17] <dura> in my own opinion
[03:17] <amphi> dura: ugh
[03:17] <dura> ?
[03:17] <mpmc> skwid: I got nicked for pasting :o
[03:17] <skwid> amphi: no, that's the entry that doesnt work
[03:17] <amphi> RayFredPip: 'in my humble opinion'
[03:17] <AlinuxOS> and you don't know the meaning of your nick in russian I immagine :)
[03:17] <goldenear> hi
[03:17] <dura> AlinuxOS, No... dura is part of my yahoo ID... duralinux
[03:18] <RayFredPip> amphi, : )
[03:18] <sarixe> ... anyone know how to get reading and executing permissions for an ntfs partition? i mounted it and it only does anything for root.
[03:18] <dura> What does it mean?
[03:18] <amphi> RayFredPip: install the bsdgames and use wtf, eg. 'wtf is IMHO' - a handy acronym dictionary
[03:18] <skwid> amphi: what do i need to change it to if my windows partition is hda5 ??
[03:18] <dura> Anyone seen MI III yet?
[03:19] <pike__> sarixe: umount it and remount like sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/something
[03:19] <amphi> skwid: (hd0,4) - at last, an answerable question ;)
[03:19] <skwid> amphi: nice, thx
[03:19] <harisund> How will I know whether a package came from the universe, multiverse restricted or the main section? And whether it came from the regular breezy repositories, breezy-backports, breezy-updates or breezy-security?
[03:19] <skwid> amphi: if i don't come back, you should feel some guilt :)
[03:19] <AlinuxOS> dura, ;)
[03:19] <amphi> skwid: heh - you could always check with the grub docs ;)
[03:19] <dura> :)
[03:20] <minimec> harisund: Synaptic: Properties of the *.deb
[03:20] <awszadr> 
[03:20] <harisund> minimec no on the command line.
[03:20] <mpmc> Now apart from being on the channel What else can, I do..?
[03:20] <RayFredPip> amphi, ah,really? so cool
[03:20] <minimec> harisund: Apt-cache search maybe....
[03:20] <HotDrive> hi. need help instaling icons for programs in the desktop
[03:20] <dura> I wish apt had a better saerch feature...
[03:20] <_jason> harisund: check the version number and use apt-cache policy if you still have those repos all enabled
[03:20] <dura> Like portage
[03:21] <harisund> minimec I have tried to check the output of apt-cache show
[03:21] <_jason> dura: what search feature are you looking for?
[03:21] <dura> harisund, apt-cache search foo |less
[03:21] <harisund> apt-cache policy eh/ I am trying that _jason brb
[03:21] <awszadr> 
[03:21] <amphi> RayFredPip: the 'is' is just syntactic sugar - you can just do 'wtf IMHO'
[03:21] <harisund> _jason awesome :) Thanks a ton
[03:21] <dura> _jason, hmm good question... I wo'nt remember until I try and find a package...
[03:21] <dura> <--- good memory just short
[03:22] <AlinuxOS> Quanta is more interestning :)
[03:22] <amphi> dura: what's wrong with apt? you can use regexes
[03:22] <minimec> harisund: _jason: Cool... I learned something ;)
[03:22] <harisund> seriously minimec :)
[03:22] <AlinuxOS> ok dear people, I must go
[03:22] <dura> amac, Nothing at all... I like apt
[03:22] <AlinuxOS> seeya ! :)
[03:22] <dura> I just like portage better
[03:22] <dura> l8r AlinuxOS
[03:22] <dura> thanks for the info hehe
[03:22] <AlinuxOS> dura, ;D
[03:23] <dura> Well.. time to go watch Munich with the g/f.
[03:23] <dura> For the record, I'd rather be sitting here...
[03:23] <dura> .me *sighs*
[03:23] <dura> l8r everyone
[03:24] <amphi> dura: what did your nick mean in .ru? 'penis' or some such?
[03:24] <Frox> I'm having a bit of trouble with an install, if anyone is willing to help
[03:24] <Gidget42> Hey, i accidentally exploded a .tar file on my desktop and now have 2000+ files (*.nasl) and they wont go away
[03:24] <dura> amac, Worse heh
[03:24] <mpmc> dura: tell all..
[03:24] <dura> Gidget42, cd ~/Desktop && rm -Rf *
[03:24] <mpmc> I wasn't paying attention :o
[03:24] <dura> Unless there is something on the desktop you want to keep
[03:24] <Gidget42> dura: u sure?
[03:25] <dura> Gidget42, Yes
[03:25] <_jason> Gidget42: that deletes everything on your desktop, so even stuff you had before
[03:25] <Gidget42> i'll try it. if it dont work i'll pm u ok?
[03:25] <dura> It will work
[03:25] <Gidget42> ihave nothing on my desktop i wanna keep
[03:25] <Gidget42> andits making my laptop lag balls
[03:25] <dura> Unless there is something on the desktop you want to keep it will be fine
[03:25] <HotDrive> anyone knows how to put icons in desktop?
[03:25] <ab_> hey everyone i need some help with locales
[03:25] <dura> Yep then you'll be good to go
[03:25] <dibblego> I have just downloaded an ISO but the MD5 doesn't match - can I use one of those torrent things or whatever to find and repair the damaged part of the file?
[03:25] <dura> bbl
[03:25] <ab_> can anyone help me out?
[03:26] <_jason> HotDrive: right click > create launcher
[03:26] <_jason> HotDrive: or a lot of times you can just drag stuff to the desktop
[03:26] <HotDrive> _jason: I did that ut it won't work
[03:26] <_jason> HotDrive: which way did you try?
[03:26] <ab_> not to interrupt, but can anyone lend me a hand with fixing a locales issue?
[03:26] <ab_> please?
[03:27] <_jason> ab_: best to just state the issue you are having
[03:27] <ab_> ok
[03:27] <HotDrive> I installed Avast antivirus and tryed to drag to the desktop, and create a "launcher"...
[03:27] <HotDrive> ...but nothing
[03:27] <ab_> error message: "dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed"
[03:27] <_jason> HotDrive: use your middle click?
[03:27] <ab_> and: Generating locales...
[03:27] <ab_>   en.ISO-8859-1...cannot open locale definition file `en': No such file or directory
[03:28] <_jason> ab_: what command gives you that error?
[03:28] <HotDrive> middle click?
[03:29] <_jason> HotDrive: try dragging witht he middle button
[03:29] <ab_> the first error is from any of 10 different commands: gcc, locale-conf, locales, apt-get install, etc
[03:29] <_jason> ab_: what ahppens when you try dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[03:29] <brettb_> is there an easy way to uninstall compiz?
[03:29] <brettb_> i need to reinstall it
[03:29] <ab_> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed
[03:29] <HotDrive> don't have one...
[03:30] <minimec> ab_: Try to start your wm-session with UTF-8 and then try to fix the problem. That could do it...
[03:30] <ab_> how do i do that?
[03:30] <ab_> i'm kind of a retarded newb\
[03:30] <ab_> hah
[03:30] <brettb_> lol
[03:30] <_jason> HotDrive: ok maybe you can be a little more specific about what you are doing?  where are you dragging from?
[03:30] <Gidget42> Dura: it doesn't work
[03:31] <_jason> !doesn't work
[03:31] <ab_> minimec, how do i do that?
[03:31] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[03:31] <minimec> ab_: I guess you can choose that in the 'language' sectieon in gdm.
[03:31] <ab_> um
[03:31] <Gidget42> when i cd ~/Desktop && rm -Rf * it says "/user/bin/sudo arguement list too long"
[03:31] <ab_> meaning...
[03:31] <_jason> Gidget42: heh
[03:31] <Gidget42> jason: can u help me?
[03:31] <Gidget42> i got like 2000+ *.nasl files on my desktop that wont go away
[03:32] <Felas> ?ntfs
[03:32] <ab_> minimec, how do i do the gdm thing?
[03:32] <_jason> Gidget42: find ~/Desktop -exec rm '{}' \;     <-- let someone check that
[03:32] <brettb_> lol
[03:32] <HotDrive> I installed the deb package and it works from the console
[03:32] <Gidget42> and anytime i try to rm, it says "arguement list too long"
[03:32] <ab_> minimec: how do i do the gdm thing?
[03:32] <minimec> ab_: Log out... then login and choose another language. You will probably have a choise to switch to your prefferred language with utf-8
[03:32] <HotDrive> but I want to have an icon on the desktop to activate the program
[03:32] <ab_> ah ok lemme try that
[03:32] <_jason> HotDrive: what is the command from the terminal that you run?
[03:33] <gpd> Question: why would two different network cards (tulip|intel) both ONLY work from the Dapper LIVE CD but not from the installed HD?
[03:33] <HotDrive> just "avast"...
[03:33] <Xenguy> Gidget42: try find with  'xargs' instead then
[03:33] <_jason> HotDrive: ok what does 'which avast' say?
[03:34] <Gidget42> xargs? what are those?
[03:34] <crimsun> !upgrade
[03:34] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[03:34] <HotDrive> nothing... If I open a console and run "avast" it works
[03:34] <HotDrive> but there is a gui for the program, but no icons on the desktop
[03:34] <_jason> HotDrive: which avast    <-- that really should say something if 'avast' works, are you sure?
[03:35] <skwid> i still can't boot on windows :(
[03:35] <Gidget42> that worked _jason u r the manimal
[03:35] <minimec> skwid: Grub problem?
[03:35] <Xenguy> Gidget42: are you sure 'cd ~/Desktop && rm -rf *' won't work?
[03:35] <HotDrive> yes, if I run "avast" in the console, the antivirus runs a scan
[03:35] <Felas> !ntfs
[03:36] <duckdown> Hey all.  Various programs (GAIM, XChat, a few others) are only offering me the choice (for sound) of "Console Beep" or "Command".  I don't know what command I'm supposed to be supplying for sound playback.  I am using Ubuntu-DAPPER
[03:36] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:36] <Gidget42> xenguy: problem solved
[03:36] <skwid> minimec: yep .. moved around my partitions with partition magic, and now the grub entry doesnt seem to work
[03:36] <Xenguy> Gidget42: ahh, good -- so -exec did work after all
[03:36] <pike__> HotDrive: 'which' tells you the directory the executable is in
[03:36] <minimec> duckdown: try esdplay yourfile
[03:36] <Gidget42> indeed
[03:37] <duckdown> minimec: Let me try that, thanks
[03:37] <_jason> HotDrive: which avast  <-- those two words are a command I need you to run and tell me the output
[03:37] <HotDrive> I found the file that opens the GUI in /usr/lib/avast4workstation/share/avast/desktop
[03:37] <HotDrive> ah! ok... :)
[03:37] <minimec> skwid: But you can boot on linux
[03:37] <odyssey> hello i have a wine probleme
[03:37] <skwid> minimec: yep, im here :)
[03:37] <Xenguy> odyssey: AA
[03:37] <Apostle^> go to alcoholics anonymous
[03:37] <Apostle^> haha
[03:37] <minimec> skwid: ;)
[03:37] <Xenguy> baha
[03:37] <skwid> minimec: my grub entry is
[03:37] <HotDrive> /usr/bin/avast
[03:37] <skwid> title		Windows XP Home
[03:37] <skwid> root		(hd0,4)
[03:38] <_jason> HotDrive: ok, that is the command you want the launcher to run?
[03:38] <duckdown> minimec: Hrmm, I don't have 'esdplay'
[03:38] <duckdown> what is it from?
[03:38] <HotDrive> ok, I'll try it
[03:38] <minimec> skwid: Can you mount the partition?
[03:38] <skwid> yep
[03:38] <skwid> on /dev/hda5
[03:38] <odyssey> wine doesnt want to start its installed but no go , do you have a better emulator other than wine to run dvd decrypter
[03:38] <brettb_> so will someone attempt to help me?
[03:39] <brettb_> is it hard to uninstall compiz?
[03:39] <minimec> duckdown: Yes. Wait. You have to install another deb. It's a gstreamer thing. Google esd ubuntu...
[03:39] <HotDrive> nope... don't work
[03:39] <duckdown> minimec: Hmmm ok thanks
[03:39] <minimec> skwid: So what is your grub entry?
[03:39] <skwid> i pasted it
[03:39] <mpmc> brettb_: What are you trying to do?
[03:39] <Xenguy> odyssey: check out 'k9copy' BTW
[03:40] <minimec> duckdown: esdplay ubuntu ;)
[03:40] <skwid> root		(hd0,4)
[03:40] <brettb_> er wtf
[03:40] <pike__> ok guys ive got dhcpd working for eth1 now. i just need to 'route' ;p traffic to eth0 so other comps can connect to web. whats the next step?
[03:40] <minimec> skwid: is that all?
[03:40] <Ademan> tell ademan about root
[03:40] <skwid> minimec: well no, for the windows
[03:40] <odyssey> ok thanks is it better than dvd shrink or decrypter
[03:40] <Ademan> damn
[03:40] <Ademan> is there a way to enable root?
[03:41] <_jason> !tell Ademan about root
[03:41] <brettb_> mpmc: im trying to uninstall compiz. i want to do a fresh install..
[03:41] <HotDrive> there is a file called "install-desktop-entries.sh". Is it possibleto run it?
[03:41] <Ademan> ah thanks jason
[03:41] <brettb_> because a lot of my settings dont work
[03:41] <Xenguy> odyssey: well it is similar software for linux, should do the job in most cases :-)
[03:41] <mpmc> brettb_: Sorry, I wasn't reading.. on the UB forums
[03:41] <odyssey> thanks xen
[03:41] <minimec> skwid: Your grub entry is not complete.
[03:42] <Xenguy> odyssey: let me know what you think, I'm still playing around with the DVD stuff myself
[03:42] <skwid> minimec: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ot0xjJ24.html that's my file
[03:42] <Ademan> also, with httpd, it says that it shoudl obey symlinks... but i created a link to a folder and it says access forbidden when i try and use it through firefox
[03:42] <b7sus4> how can i install a mouse?
[03:43] <HotDrive> or is there some aplication in Ubuntu that looks for installed programs/files and install them in the desktop?
[03:43] <d> um
[03:43] <odyssey> ok right now i still revert back to xp and use dvd shrink and burn with nero7
[03:43] <amphi> skwid: that's all you have for the windows entry?
[03:43] <NoUse> b7sus4 what kind of mouse?
[03:43] <d> whats a good program whree i could download illegal music and movies?
[03:43] <NoUse> b7sus4 ps2? usb?
[03:43] <skwid> amphi: what else do i need ?
[03:43] <amphi> d: cat
[03:43] <minimec> skwid: Has your windows a own harddisk?
[03:43] <odyssey> im trying to get ride of xp all together
[03:44] <skwid> minimec: no
[03:44] <amphi> skwid: try appending a line 'chainloader +1' after the line 'root (hd0,4)'
[03:44] <d> :)
[03:44] <b7sus4> NoUse, ps2 i believe.....it is the lod mouse with the screws
[03:44] <skwid> amphi: it's there
[03:44] <mauper> what should I say: nero is good basic movie editing ... but for all other burning tasks: k3b :)
[03:44] <skwid> amphi: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ot0xjJ24.html
[03:44] <odyssey> but the probleme is that i want to run  il2 stormavic online with teamspeak on
[03:45] <minimec> skwid: We are stupid. You mount it as hda5 ;) Why don't you boot on 5 ;)
[03:45] <NoUse> b7sus4 thats a serial mouse, it has 9 pins?
[03:45] <slackern> pike__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShareInternetConnection maybe this will help.
[03:45] <ab_> hey all, i'm back
[03:45] <ab_> so loggin in/out didnt fix the locales issue
[03:45] <amphi> skwid: what error do you get?
[03:45] <mauper> where is the kick and ban for "d" ? ;)
[03:45] <b7sus4> yes
[03:45] <skwid> minimec: what do you mean ???
[03:45] <skwid> minimec: when we have hda1, we boot on 0, no ?
[03:45] <noiesmo> pike__, checkout firestarter its a gui for configuring firewall and nat
[03:45] <d> what did i do wrong?
[03:45] <b7sus4> NoUse, yes
[03:45] <ab_> _jason, can you help me out?
[03:45] <skwid> amphi: filesystem something .. i didnt copy it down
[03:46] <pike__> slackern: at this point it cant hurt thx
[03:46] <NoUse> b7sus4 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto try that
[03:46] <d> i dont call it p2p...GET OVER IT
[03:46] <Wyred> hi i'm having problems with K3B
[03:46] <mauper> d: I refuse to quote you ...
[03:46] <d> mauper: i dont call it p2p...GET OVER IT
[03:46] <Wyred> everytime i'm trying to burn a new cd image, it crashes
[03:46] <_jason> ab_: did you try the dpkg-reconfigure locales command?
[03:46] <amphi> skwid: try changing 'root' to 'rootnoverify'
[03:46] <Wyred> or rather freezes, it's beginning to think it's Windows Software i'm sure
[03:46] <amphi> skwid: and get the error message if there's another ;)
[03:46] <mauper> d: jeez, steal what you want but don't bother us ...
[03:46] <d> mauper: is the word p2p any better?
[03:46] <minimec> skwid: you boot on (hd0,4)... But you moun t/dev/hda5...
[03:47] <skwid> minimec: yeah, what's the problem ? :(
[03:47] <ab_> _jason: yes i did, i get this error:
[03:47] <ab_> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[03:47] <ab_> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[03:47] <ab_>         LANGUAGE = (unset),
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_ALL = "en_US",
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_PAPER = "en_US",
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_ADDRESS = "en_US",
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_MONETARY = "en_US",
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_NUMERIC = "en_US",
[03:47] <mauper> p2p isn't equal to downloading copyright protected stuff
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_TELEPHONE = "en_US",
[03:47] <slackern> !paste
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_MESSAGES = "en_US",
[03:47] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[03:47] <_jason> ab_: don't paste here :/
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_IDENTIFICATION = "en_US",
[03:47] <noiesmo> ab_, dont paste
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_COLLATE = "en_US",
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_MEASUREMENT = "en_US",
[03:47] <NoUse> !ops
[03:47] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_CTYPE = "en_US",
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_TIME = "en_US",
[03:47] <noiesmo> ab_, cut it out
[03:47] <ab_>         LC_NAME = "en_US",
[03:47] <ab_>         LANG = "en_US"
[03:47] <ab_>     are supported and installed on your system.
[03:47] <amphi> d: I agree that the term p2p is pretty silly- what is http if not p2p? ;)
[03:47] <mpmc> Ab_: Ahhh!
[03:47] <ab_> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[03:47] <adiabatic> I don't think he can stop.
[03:47] <ab_> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[03:47] <ab_> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[03:47] <ab_> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[03:47] <mpmc> KILL
[03:47] <ab_> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed
[03:47] <mpmc> KILL
[03:47] <minimec> skwid: So you could try to boot (hd0,5). Am I wrong?
[03:47] <ab_> sorry
[03:48] <ab_> first time here
[03:48] <mauper> ab_: aaaaaaaargh
[03:48] <ab_> sorry, shit.
[03:48] <mpmc> :'(
[03:48] <chowells> amphi: client-server
[03:48] <amphi> mpmc: calm down ;)
[03:48] <noiesmo> ab_, piss off
[03:48] <skwid> minimec: i think it's one less right ?
[03:48] <NoUse> ab_ then you should read the /topic
[03:48] <ab_> i'm fucking sorry!!!
[03:48] <vipoet> hehe
[03:48] <slackern> !language
[03:48] <HedgeMage> noiesmo: Mistakes happen
[03:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:48] <mpmc> amphi: k..
[03:48] <noiesmo> ab_, dont be sorry dont do it
[03:48] <d> :p anyway i was being a smartarse i will call it proper name from now on
[03:48] <mauper> the manners in this channel have degraded ...
[03:48] <amphi> chowells: well, yeah, that too ;)
[03:48] <Cooner750> Is it possible to remove the Gnome package now, as I seem to like KDE more after I got gtk-qt installed
[03:48] <Cooner750> ?
[03:49] <noiesmo> HedgeMage, yeah thats no mistake thats stupidity
[03:49] <mpmc> Everyone take a chill pill..
[03:49] <adiabatic> I've tried to find the SSH key setup wiki page, but Google isn't helping me. Can someone point me to the "how to set up the whole charging up SSH-agent with your keys" page?
[03:49] <ab_> _jason, any ideas?
[03:49] <minimec> skwid: nope. It depends what you have... Primary partitions... logical...
[03:49] <ab_> and i promise not to paste anymore
[03:49] <d> ab_: the "fuck" word is even worse than flooding watch out...
[03:49] <ab_> got it
[03:49] <skwid> minimec: ho, i just changed the windows partition from a primary to a logical
[03:49] <amphi> noiesmo: I'm sure we'll all recover from the trauma
[03:49] <skwid> could that be the problem ?
[03:49] <ab_> haha ok
[03:49] <d> taken me 3 weeks to get back in here
[03:49] <noiesmo> amphi, no I'm scared for life ;)
[03:49] <HedgeMage> noiesmo: I seem to recall a certain network staffer who accidentally did "/voice -yes *" in here and couldn't do anything about the 10 minutes of voice notices scrolling by once she'd done it.
[03:49] <HotDrive> still ni icon working in the desktop... help...
[03:49] <minimec> skwid: Try to boot hd0,5
[03:49] <mauper> if the f*ck word where the only problem ...
[03:50] <minimec> ab_: Did you have some kind of success?
[03:50] <mpmc> Can someone give me the sources line for opera?
[03:50] <amphi> noiesmo: oh, well, the trick cyclists have to earn a crust too ;)
[03:50] <ab_> minimec: with what?
[03:50] <minimec> ab_: the utf-8 thing?
[03:50] <mpmc> !opera
[03:50] <noiesmo> amphi, haha
[03:50] <ubotu> opera is, like, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[03:50] <amphi> minimec: hd5 is (hd0,4)
[03:50] <amphi> minimec: er, hda5
[03:50] <ab_> minimec: i logged in and out, as you said, selecting a different language option, but that didnt fix the error i pasted above
[03:51] <ab_> minimec: is there a way to reset all locales stuff?
[03:51] <minimec> ab_: sorry.. so I can't help you.
[03:51] <ab_> minimec: thanks anyway
[03:51] <ab_> _jason: ideas?
[03:51] <minimec> ab_: Try to reinstall the locale package...
[03:51] <ab_> minimec: how?
[03:51] <ab_> apt-get?
[03:51] <amphi> mauper: what else is troubling you?
[03:52] <minimec> apt-get or aptitude
[03:52] <Wyred> hmm, anyone else had problems with k3b? seems everytime i'm trying to burn a new CD image it's freezing
[03:52] <minimec> ab_  apt-get or aptitude
[03:52] <mauper> amphi: me, barely nothing :)
[03:53] <minimec> amphi: I do agree I am wrong. I see that now ...
[03:53] <Cooner750> is is possible to repace the Gnome login manger with KDM?
[03:53] <ab_> minimec: tried that, but i get 100 lines of errors that look similar to the locales error
[03:53] <amphi> skwid: can windows boot from an extended partition? I'm sure it won't like having its little drive letters messed with in any case; you might want to look at the map option of grub
[03:53] <ab_> minimec: then it quits saying errorrs were encountered while processing locales
[03:53] <amphi> skwid: is it grub or the legacy os that gives the error?
[03:53] <mauper> Wyred: dapper ?
[03:53] <skwid> amphi: i think its grub
[03:53] <skwid> ill look again
[03:53] <noiesmo> Wyred, did you do k3b setup and is your user a member of burning or cdrom group
[03:53] <skwid> i think i screwed everything up :(
[03:53] <amphi> skwid: did you try with rootnoverify instead of root?
[03:54] <Wyred> noiesmo, yes mauper no, i'm trying to burn FC5 for my work pc
[03:54] <amphi> skwid: only the legacy os by the sound of it ;)
[03:54] <minimec> ab_: This is not good. But as I sad. I don't believe I can help you then.
[03:54] <_jason> ab_: consider dpkg-reconfigure --force locales, don't do this with someone else agreeing it's not a really bad idea
[03:54] <Ams_NY> Hey guys
[03:54] <_jason> without*
[03:54] <Ams_NY> and galz
[03:54] <skwid> amphi: ill reboot
[03:55] <skwid> be right back
[03:55] <Wyred> noiesmo, it won't even load now
[03:55] <mauper> Wyred: did you try the k3b setup as was asked before ? And did you upgrade your packages recently ?
[03:56] <Wyred> mauper, yeah, i've just finished updating and rebooted
[03:56] <mauper> Wyred: the k3b setup too ?
[03:56] <Wyred> finally it's let me in
[03:56] <Wyred> setting up
[03:56] <Ademan> how do you create a group and add users to it?
[03:57] <null> can anyone point me in the right direction for a problem i'm having with doom3?  I am experiencing "pauses" durring the play (like the game freezes for a second or two)
[03:57] <Ademan> crappy comp?
[03:57] <noiesmo> Ademan, sudo groupadd && useradd -g username groupname
[03:57] <Ademan> i had no idea they even had a linux doom3 port
[03:57] <amphi> Ademan: man adduser describes both
[03:57] <roe__> can anyone give me some advise with the fglrx driver?
[03:57] <HotDrive> I tried to install the file "install-desktop-entries.sh" ut I have an error...
[03:57] <pike__> Ademan: doom halflife id is very good about linux support
[03:58] <amphi> roe__: avoid like the plague, if you can ;)
[03:58] <noiesmo> Ademan, sudo groupadd groupname then  useradd -g username groupname
[03:58] <roe__> hehe, :)
[03:58] <roe__> too late
[03:58] <Ademan> roe__: dont use it :-)
[03:58] <marc-antoine> is someone know where I can fond an wesnoth RPM for unbuntu 5.10?
[03:58] <Ademan> it took me literally a week to get it working
[03:58] <HotDrive> "unary operator expected"?
[03:58] <Ademan> maybe even two
[03:58] <_jason> !info wesnoth
[03:58] <Ademan> unary = one operand
[03:58] <ubotu> wesnoth: (fantasy turn-based strategy game), section universe/games, is extra. Version: 1.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1591 kB, Installed size: 4432 kB
[03:58] <roe__> I have it working, I just want to tweak the xorg.conf file to get the correct dual head display
[03:58] <pike__> er not halflife quake
[03:58] <Wyred> mauper btw whats the Burnfree option?
[03:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell marc-antoine abotu universe
[03:58] <amphi> roe__: tldp.org might have something
[03:59] <Ademan> HotDrive: it means it only expected one operand
[03:59] <null> Ademan : yeah it came out not long after the game. and my comp is fine for the game, runs at a smooth ~60 fps but just out of nowhere I get like a 2 second pause (no HD activity durring this so its not loading something from the disk)
[03:59] <HotDrive> is there a way to correct this or is a file error?
[03:59] <marc-antoine> thanks
[03:59] <Ademan> HotDrive: fix the code
[03:59] <HotDrive> ??
[03:59] <amphi> Wyred: "support for Buffer Underrun Free writing" according to man cdrecord
[03:59] <Ademan> *.sh is a script file
[04:00] <Ademan> fix the script
[04:00] <elusive> can anyone try to help me with bluetooth on dapper drake?
[04:00] <Wyred> well in the set up section and can't see anything that needs changing
[04:00] <amphi> Wyred: only some drives would appear to support it
[04:00] <Wyred> so should remove?
[04:00] <HotDrive> don't know how... just want to put an icon in the desktop to run a program...
[04:00] <Ademan> null: hrm, is it possible you've got something like a stock ticker or some other gnome applet that periodically updates and chews through your resources?
[04:01] <idefix> when ftp-ing, how do you upload everything in the directory including subdirectories?
[04:02] <Wyred> ahh stuff it
[04:02] <Wyred> it's fried
[04:03] <roe> the tldp doesn't have info on configuring a virtual display using the aticonfig
[04:03] <roe> and the ati web site is a joke
[04:03] <skwid> amphi: Invalid device requested
[04:04] <idefix> paradizelost but I don't have this FTP client..
[04:04] <null> Ademan : no.  i have a pretty clean setup going on.  not even any cron jobs.  strange thing is the sound from the game keeps kicking fine durring these graphics hangs too. and the interruptions are not consistant... i may get like 5 in a min, then not get any for 5 mins (tested running around in circles in a room to avoid new textures being a culpret)
[04:04] <Ams_NY> hey guys
[04:05] <luke> is there any way I can disable one users access to the internet completely?
[04:05] <Ademan> null: very strange, i guess your card COULD be heating up a bit? i dont know that's so strange...
[04:06] <Ademan> null: ignore what i just said thats utterly rediculous, are you SURE you don't have any background proccesses that might be eating resources (even unexpectedly)
[04:07] <Nullified> Weird that two people called "Null" one being myself are experiancing GFX problems, However mines under windows...
[04:07] <csete> Anyone have any CUPS configuration background?
[04:07] <null> Ademan : heh now that I think about it, I'm gonna try calling tech support.  I just bought the game like an hour ago, and they did provide a linux client of it.  and no overheats... im sure on the background processes, I can watch my cpu usage when not in the game and it stays at like 0 to 2% max
[04:08] <Ademan> how do you change a file's group owner?
[04:08] <NoUse> Ademan chown :groupname file
[04:08] <csete> I'm trying to print "raw" from Windows.  It is complaining about application/octet-stream not being a supported format and yet I have those uncommented in mime.typs and mime.conv.
[04:08] <elusive> can anyone please help me with bluetooth?
[04:08] <Ademan> thanks NoUse
[04:09] <null> Ademan actuialy i correct that, its at like 5% since I have been in here, and thats mostly from crap in firefox that I am trying to pull up as well..  and use "chown 'user':'group' 'thing to change'
[04:10] <phero> lol
[04:10] <phero> ubuntu is rubbish
[04:10] <phero> ubuntu is rubbish
[04:11] <phero> super super rubbish
[04:11] <Kyral> ......
[04:11] <Kyral> BAN!!
[04:11] <Kyral> BAN BAN BAN!
[04:11] <elusive> help lease, help
[04:11] <noiesmo> crimsun, thanks
[04:11] <Kyral> Yea!!
[04:11] <Ademan> null: thanks
[04:11] <Ademan> wtf... can users in a file's group not modify it?
[04:12] <crimsun> depends on the group permissions
[04:12] <Ademan> i just did "chown g=rwx www"
[04:12] <Ademan> well... sudo but yeah
[04:13] <NoUse> Ademan I assume you meant g+rwx
[04:13] <Ademan> NoUse: = doesnt work?
[04:13] <Ademan> that explains that then...
[04:13] <Ademan> lol
[04:13] <siimo> hi just tryingto remember when backports went official? do the official mirrors have much of hoary backports?
[04:13] <NoUse> Ademan + adds permissions, - takes them away
[04:13] <Ademan> = just plain sets i believe
[04:13] <Ademan> but i'll try +
[04:14] <Ademan> (looking at the file with right click-> properties showed group permissions read write and execute all set...
[04:14] <d> What linux p2p apps do people use?
[04:14] <d> What linux p2p apps do people use?
[04:14] <NoUse> !repeat
[04:14] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[04:15] <chowells> Ademan: + to add permission, - to take it away
[04:15] <noiesmo> d try frostwire
[04:15] <d> cool i will
[04:15] <adambrady> @Anyone know anything about Evolution Email Client?
[04:16] <siimo> ..
[04:16] <Ademan> well my way worked... and either way, the permission string was "drwxrwxr-x" and i can't modify the damn file (and yes i'm in the group)
[04:16] <NoUse> Ademan did you just add yourself to the group?
[04:16] <noiesmo> Ademan, whats the permission on the file thats a directory permission you just posted
[04:16] <d> adambrady: what would you like to know?
[04:16] <elusive> could anyone help me with bluetooth?
[04:17] <greenman> why should I choose ubuntu?  I'm moving away from gentoo.  (too much work needed to upkeep it)
[04:17] <Ademan> NoUse: i added myself to the group before i changed the group ownership
[04:17] <noiesmo> Ademan, maybe try chown -r users:group directory
[04:17] <amphi> greenman: because the releases have 'cutesy' names? ;)
[04:17] <NoUse> Ademan you might need to re-login for the group assingment to take affect
[04:17] <Guest_790> hey can anyone help me install ubuntu, i keep having problems, even running it from livecd
[04:17] <Ademan> ah, alright i'll try that, thanks
[04:17] <greenman> amphi: nice.  :)  What release is it now?
[04:18] <Ademan> is there any like "flush" command that would have the same effect though?
[04:18] <adambrady> D: I need to back up my Mail so I can reload Ubuntu. I cant find an export function.
[04:18] <Guest_790> Everytime I try to run livecd or run the install cd, it starts running, asks me what type of install, then the screen turns black
[04:18] <Guest_790> and nothing nappens
[04:18] <greenman> wow.  I asked the same question in #fedora and they jumped down my throat
[04:19] <Ademan> Guest_790: are you on a laptop?
[04:19] <Guest_790> yes
[04:19] <Guest_790> a toshiba
[04:19] <Ademan> *swish*
[04:19] <slew> hi. when i right click on a wmv and go to properties it says 'building propterties window' but that window never happens. i want gxine to open wmv files, is there another place to set that option?
[04:19] <Ademan> gimme 30 seconds
[04:19] <Guest_790> k
[04:19] <noiesmo> adambrady, I just made a copy of the mail directory in the users home folder .mozilla-thunderbird then copy it back once thunderbird set back up
[04:20] <adambrady> noiesmo: will it do the same thing using evolution?
[04:20] <d> adambrady: and the mails arent on the server?
[04:20] <Ademan> when the livecd or the installer comes up
[04:20] <Ademan> hit f2
[04:20] <adambrady> d:no i didnt leave a copy
[04:20] <Ademan> it should give you some options
[04:20] <Guest_790> ok
[04:20] <d> ILL FIND YOU EVOLUTIONS MAIL DIRECTORY ONE SEC
[04:20] <noiesmo> adambrady, dont know I only use Thunderbird sorry
[04:20] <d> sorry for the caps
[04:20] <Ademan> there should be one (in f1-f6) that says "fixes laptop display problem"
[04:21] <Guest_790> oh really? sweet
[04:21] <Ademan> yeah
[04:21] <Guest_790> and that should fix the problem?
[04:21] <Ademan> just check f1->f6
[04:21] <Ademan> hopefully
[04:21] <Ademan> you'll end up typing something like "linux <the option>"
[04:21] <whiter> im trying to remove opneoffice but the two packages left depend on each other so they dont want to remove, any way to do that?
[04:21] <Ademan> if it doesnt fix it come back
[04:22] <Guest_790> ok, cool. i'll try it right now
[04:22] <amphi> greenman: basically, it inherits much of the benefits of debian, while being easier to install and having more recent packages
[04:22] <Guest_790> thanks
[04:22] <adambrady> I should just be able to copy home/USERNAME/.evolution/mail shouldn't I
[04:22] <greenman> what are the benefits of debian?  I know a lot of people use
[04:22] <Ademan> no problem
[04:23] <d> adambrady save the directory ~./.evolution/mail/pop/*YOUREMAIL* somewhere u can copy it back once finished
[04:23] <amphi> greenman: see http://www.us.debian.org/intro/about
[04:23] <mikebot> how can i save a file on an ntfs partition?
[04:23] <dick-richardson> is anyone familiar with http cache cleaner?
[04:23] <paradizelost> mikebot: use windows
[04:23] <dick-richardson> you can't really
[04:23] <d> ikebot how can i save a file on an ntfs partition?    Windows???
[04:23] <adambrady> d thanks alot
[04:24] <wizayne> hi all
[04:24] <greenman> mikebot: it's risky even if you can.  You risk wiping the drive
[04:24] <amphi> greenman: also http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian
[04:24] <dick-richardson> you can jimmy-rig captive to do it
[04:24] <mikebot> paradizelost, rather, is there any way i can access a file i am editing right now (in ubuntu) in windows?
[04:24] <wizayne> i am interested in making a bootable ubuntu cd from the *.iso file
[04:24] <wizayne> where can i get the bootable image?
[04:24] <wizayne> is that included in the iso?
[04:24] <d> mikebot: yes
[04:24] <mikebot> d; how?
[04:25] <amphi> wizayne: it's basically a boot floppy image
[04:25] <cdubya> evening, all
[04:25] <d> mikebot: but that is a #windows  question not an #ubuntu question...none of us know how
[04:25] <wizayne> ok..i don't have a floppy drive but i think with roxio media creator i can make the cdr bootable
[04:25] <amphi> wizayne: see eltorito in man cdrecord or the cd writing howto at tldp.org
[04:25] <dick-richardson> mikebot: I'm gonna have to refer to google...captive-ntfs is what you're looking for
[04:25] <whiter> mikebot it is not possible to write to an NTFS partition using ubuntu...
[04:25] <mikebot> thanks
[04:25] <wizayne> thankies
[04:25] <whiter> it is only possible to read from it
[04:25] <d> mikebot whitch file system are you trying to read in windows?
[04:26] <jack|ass> So if I have a hyperthreading processor, do i want the regular or SMP version of the linux kernel?
[04:26] <mikebot> whiter, i don't haev to write to an ntfs, i csan save it on my ext3, but can i access that in windows?
[04:26] <mikebot> i just need access to this file when i'm in windows
[04:26] <whiter> probably, i dont know
[04:26] <whiter> oh wait
[04:26] <wizayne> amphi, i still don't know where to get the image i need to boot..
[04:26] <amphi> wizayne: you could also look at cloop if you haven't
[04:26] <whiter> yes you can...
[04:26] <NoUse> !ext3
[04:26] <ubotu> ext3 is, like, totally, a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/written from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:26] <whiter> mikebot, ever heard of SAMBA ?
[04:26] <wizayne> is it included in the iso, amphi ?
[04:26] <mikebot> whiter, no
[04:26] <amphi> wizayne: you must make it, perhaps
[04:26] <dick-richardson> Is anyone getting a "launching http cache cleaner" thing that pops up?
[04:26] <whiter> you could set up a samba share on linux and use windows file sharing like normal to connect to it
[04:26] <wizayne> oic.. erm.. okay
[04:26] <wizayne> thanks
[04:26] <whiter> and just share out the folder
[04:26] <whiter> you are using ubuntu?
[04:27] <mikebot> yes
[04:27] <d> mikebot: what NoUse said
[04:27] <wizayne> sure am..i want to put ubuntu on my other laptop
[04:27] <wizayne> thanks amphi
[04:27] <d> !ext3
[04:27] <ubotu> [ext3]  a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/written from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:27] <whiter> right click the folder the file is in and then goto "Share Folder"
[04:27] <whiter> change the little drop down to SMB, make a share name, save
[04:28] <dick-richardson> Is anyone getting a "launching http cache cleaner" thing that pops up?
[04:28] <whiter> then open terminal and type "smbpasswd -a"
[04:28] <Peter-Brazil> como registro meu nick?
[04:28] <Peter-Brazil> sorry
[04:28] <skwid> anybody can help me with gparted ?
[04:28] <lkj1> How do I check what version of Ubuntu I have? You know, to see if the upgrade worked?
[04:28] <Peter-Brazil> how como register my nickname?
[04:29] <skwid> im trying to change a windows partition from logical to primary
[04:29] <whiter> Peter, /msg nickserv register help
[04:29] <crimsun> Peter-Brazil: /msg nickserv help register
[04:29] <lkj1> Peter: /msg nicskerv register password
[04:29] <NoUse> skwid I'm not sure thats possible
[04:29] <skwid> NoUse: crap :S
[04:29] <whiter> and Peter, "How como" = "How do i"
[04:29] <d> skwid: what do you want to know
[04:29] <whiter> IKJ1
[04:29] <d> skwid: thats impossible without deleting and making a new partition
[04:30] <skwid> d: great ...
[04:30] <lkj1> He speaks Portuguese, whiter, give him a break. ;) Hence the Brazil in his name.
[04:30] <mikebot> whiter, download samba right now
[04:30] <whiter> mike it should be already installed
[04:30] <d> `/nick _damian-
[04:30] <Peter-Brazil> sorry, my english is very bad
[04:30] <_damian-> hmm
[04:30] <mikebot> whiter, then it just updated
[04:30] <lkj1> No problem, Peter-Brazil
[04:30] <amphi> Peter-Brazil: there's #ubuntu-br, if you want it
[04:31] <lkj1> :)
[04:31] <Peter-Brazil> i am working in project asterisk with ubuntu
[04:31] <whiter> Peter-Brazil: /join #ubuntu-br
[04:31] <whiter> then you can speak natively
[04:32] <mikebot> !paste
[04:32] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:32] <_damian-> noiesmo: can you explain frostwire for me pls
[04:33] <_damian-> noiesmo: illegal program?
[04:33] <mikebot> whiter, damn, i can't copy from the update manager...there were like 10 errors, or 'fails' rather
[04:33] <Phoul> Is there a tutoriel on making debs that anyone can use?
[04:33] <whiter> dude, samba is installed by default on ubuntu
[04:33] <Phoul> From source code
[04:33] <whiter> you dont need to use update manager
[04:33] <noiesmo> _damian-, it's a p2p app
[04:33] <Phoul> I guess they would be called static debs?
[04:33] <mikebot> whiter, it automatically popped up
[04:33] <mikebot> whiter, when i sahred that folder
[04:33] <whiter> oh
[04:33] <whiter> close it?
[04:34] <mikebot> haha ok
[04:34] <Phoul> anyone?
[04:34] <mikebot> i did 'smbpasswd -a' and got a bunch of display
[04:34] <whiter> run it as root (sudo)
[04:34] <_damian-> noiesmo...but is it a copy of limewire...rewriten..or did they just illegaplly edit limewire and
[04:34] <mikebot> ah ok
[04:34] <cdubya> mikebot: smbpasswd -a username
[04:34] <whiter> _damian, limewire is free to modify from source
[04:34] <noiesmo> _damian-, I don't know and don't care check out the frostwire site
[04:35] <_damian-> sure:P
[04:35] <mikebot> i didn't do a username
[04:35] <mikebot> is that ok?
[04:35] <whiter> no..
[04:35] <_damian-> whiter ok didnt know
[04:35] <Peter-Brazil> the ubuntu here in Brazil is very used
[04:35] <whiter> mikebot it should be YOUR current ubuntu username, or a user that exists on the ubuntu machine
[04:35] <blunted> hey anybody using kubuntu
[04:35] <mikebot> ok
[04:35] <mikebot> just redo it?
[04:35] <whiter> so... smbpasswd -a mikebot
[04:35] <whiter> yea
[04:35] <_damian-> this frostwire is no good for me want to get away fropm limewire there is one bug thats really annoying me
[04:36] <blunted> and can tell me how good it is
[04:36] <Peter-Brazil> i am using the kubuntu
[04:36] <whiter> Peter-Brazil: #ubuntu-br join it
[04:36] <mikebot> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user mikebot. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[04:36] <mikebot> Failed to modify password entry for user mikebot
[04:36] <_damian-> anyone know a good p2p app?
[04:36] <mikebot> use the same as my login name?
[04:36] <whiter> yea mikebot
[04:36] <mikebot> ok, done
[04:36] <noiesmo> Peter-Brazil, ubuntu seems to be growing in popularity everywhere easy for new people generally to use compaired to other distros
[04:36] <NoUse> !tell _damian- about p2p
[04:36] <whiter> _damian, nope, limewire and gtk-gnutella
[04:36] <blunted> _damian-, gtk-gnutella
[04:36] <minimec> _damian-: Just installed it. That rocks!!!
[04:37] <whiter> mikebot... the windows box is on the same network right?
[04:37] <whiter> same LAN i mean...
[04:37] <mikebot> um
[04:37] <Peter-Brazil> but, the option server is perfect too
[04:37] <minimec> _damian-: Are you on dapper?
[04:37] <mikebot> this is the windows box
[04:37] <mikebot> i need tor eboot into windows
[04:37] <mikebot> *to reboot
[04:37] <Peter-Brazil> i am using in servers
[04:37] <whiter> hm
[04:37] <whiter> ok samba is useless then
[04:37] <whiter> lol
[04:37] <mikebot> cdubya, haha
[04:37] <mikebot> haha
[04:37] <cdubya> mikebot, use the link posted earlier to access the fs
[04:37] <whiter> yea...
[04:37] <mikebot> can i just use partition magic to copy a file from ext3 to ntfs?
[04:37] <whiter> i was thinking it was 2 seperate boxes
[04:38] <cdubya> http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:38] <noiesmo> Peter-Brazil, cool I use debain,slackware for servers at moment and kubuntu deskto
[04:38] <blunted> that kubuntu desktop
[04:38] <blunted> hows it do
[04:38] <NoUse> mikebot why not just do it from inside windows?
[04:38] <cdubya> mikebot, there are others I found before....I can look at the other one I d'loaded and give you the name of it if you want. It worked fine for what I was doing.
[04:39] <noiesmo> blunted, I'm a kde fan so its good
[04:39] <Peter-Brazil> i am using it in my server of voip
[04:39] <Peter-Brazil> with asterisk
[04:39] <mikebot> NoUse, how?
[04:39] <mikebot> cdubya, this link says ext2.?
[04:39] <NoUse> !tell mikebot about ext3
[04:39] <cdubya> mikebot, read a little further, says ext3 also
[04:39] <elusive> can anyone help me with bluetooth?
[04:39] <blunted> i was thinking about installing it, but i dunno if i want to part with my debian or not
[04:39] <LKRaider> Peter-Brazil: oi vem pro canal ubuntu-br
[04:39] <whiter> !tell me about p2p
[04:40] <noiesmo> blunted, debian's good only went to kubuntu for dapper and xgl
[04:40] <Peter-Brazil> \join #ubuntu-br
[04:40] <freakcode> Peter-Brazil, ei amigo... entre no canal brasileiro... #ubuntu-br
[04:40] <cdubya> Peter-Brazil, /join instead of \join
[04:40] <mikebot> cdubya, ah, so i instlal this in windows?
[04:40] <cdubya> mikebot, yes
[04:40] <mikebot> ok, thanks
[04:40] <cdubya> np
[04:40] <mikebot> i'm going to reboot
[04:40] <mikebot> cya
[04:41] <blunted> do they make a kubuntu livecd?
[04:41] <NoUse> blunted yes
[04:41] <blunted> hm cool
[04:41] <NoUse> blunted they make a livecd for every ubuntu verison
[04:41] <blunted> alrighty holla
[04:41] <Cin> Hey... where is $HOME defined?
[04:42] <Cin> It seems I cannot login to my account properly because $HOME is set to / instead of /home/cin.
[04:42] <skwid> so, anyone know how to boot windows on a logical partition with grub ? please :(
[04:42] <goudkov> hi guys, i have 317 gnome-pty-helper proceses running only 9 days after reboot. is that normal? it's a desktop
[04:42] <Cin> I checked /etc/passwd and it's set as /home/cin, which is correct. So is there another definition of $HOME?
[04:42] <cdubya> not sure if anyone has need for it, but I used this app for reading from ext3 on Win2k and it worked well. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[04:42] <spikeb> hmm
[04:43] <OrTigaS> anyone uses chikka here?
[04:44] <OrTigaS> i forgot the installation :(
[04:44] <OrTigaS> chikka in gaim
[04:44] <amphi> Cin: $HOME is defined in /etc/passwd
[04:44] <amphi> skwid: what happened?
[04:44] <shasbot> i just installed 5.10 and am having trouble with my wireless networking, anyone here know much on the subject?
[04:44] <skwid> amphi: i cant boot on my windows still ...
[04:44] <Cin> Well, I've set it as /home/cin, but it seems to be ignoring it... Using / as default.
[04:44] <amphi> skwid: evidently
[04:44] <skwid> and gparted won't let me change the partition from logical back to primary
[04:45] <OrTigaS> how to setup my user ass a root?
[04:45] <amphi> shasbot: just ask
[04:45] <lkj1> Why does it say I don't have GCC? Why wouldn't I?
[04:45] <OrTigaS> first user
[04:45] <cdubya> lkj1, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:45] <lkj1> And it won't let me install GCC because I don't have GCC.
[04:45] <OrTigaS> in visudo
[04:45] <whiter> lkj1 you probably dont
[04:45] <Cin> lkj1: Doesn't come with Ubuntu by default AFIK.
[04:45] <amphi> skwid: what error'd? windows or grub?
[04:45] <lkj1> lol why no?
[04:45] <skwid> grub
[04:45] <lkj1> *not
[04:45] <skwid> amphi: invalid device requested
[04:45] <whiter> lkj1 size?
[04:45] <whiter> the DVD has it on there, the CD dont
[04:45] <Cin> lkj1: 'Cause packages are binaries.
[04:45] <lkj1> ok
[04:46] <CellFish> ok i don't get it .. to change the highest refresh rate in ubuntu you have to do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver0-xorg' ... however every time i restart the gdm, it still forces 60hz on me. what am i doing wrong
[04:46] <whiter> sudo apt-get install build-essential anyway
[04:46] <whiter> Cell, wrong driver maybe
[04:46] <cdubya> skwid, did you setup the reference in menu.lst or how did you set it up?
[04:46] <amphi> skwid: what do you mean, you changed the partition?
[04:46] <amphi> skwid: do fdisk -l /dev/hda and pastebin it, perhaps
[04:46] <skwid> amphi: well yeah that's why it's not booting anymore :)
[04:46] <CellFish> whiter: i've done it before on ubuntu with a previous motherboard.. the video card is the same as is the monitor. it can't be the driver
[04:46] <amphi> skwid: huh?
[04:47] <lkj1> The sudo apt-get install build-essential doesn't work. It says: Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[04:47] <lkj1>   Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[04:47] <amphi> skwid: can you mount /dev/hda5 in linux?
[04:47] <skwid> amphi: everything was working fine, then i changed my windows partition from primary to logical, and then grub wouldn't boot anymore, then i asked for help :)
[04:47] <skwid> amphi: yes
[04:47] <amphi> skwid: and all seems well?
[04:47] <shasbot> well i have an atheros chipset wireless card, and when i boot the live cd, it is detected and i can configure it, but during installation when i ran ifconfig -a it wasn't listed, i installed anyway and when i log in, it says that it can't connect to ubuntu and that it may cause problems with gnome, and when the desktop loads, i can't run the network configuration or sudo
[04:48] <amphi> skwid: you see the legacy os's files?
[04:48] <skwid> amphi: http://pastebin.com/714674
[04:48] <skwid> amphi: yes
[04:48] <lkj1> Wait, now it seems to be working
[04:48] <shasbot> i ran ifconfig -a and curiously, it lists ath0
[04:48] <CellFish> can somebody walk me through changing the highest refresh rate in ubuntu to see if i'm fucking up somewhere?
[04:48] <noiesmo> CellFish, maybe change the vert and horiz rates for monitor
[04:49] <CellFish> noiesmo: still in the configuration program?
[04:49] <amphi> skwid: heh, hda1 disappeared, huh?
[04:49] <cdubya> shasbot, I have an atheros card, but it got picked up out of the box. Can you copy the good known working config while booting the LiveCD and then implement it? :-)
[04:49] <lkj1> Yay! Now I am building Fluxbox with my newly installed GCC!
[04:49] <noiesmo> CellFish, here's a copy of my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/714679
[04:49] <spikeb> er
[04:49] <skwid> amphi: yep ... :(
[04:49] <spikeb> fluxbox is in the repos...
[04:50] <lkj1> Uh, oh.. configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers.
[04:50] <amphi> skwid: grub doesn't care, the first logical partition is (hd0,4) regardless of how many primary partitions there are
[04:50] <noiesmo> CellFish, i edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf didn't use config program
[04:50] <shasbot> cdubya, maybe that would work, but i do not know what files to copy
[04:50] <lkj1> It is? It says it couldn't find the package, spikeb
[04:50] <skwid> amphi: hda1 was my primary windows partition, it got moved to logical hda 5 into primary hda2
[04:50] <amphi> skwid: moved?
[04:50] <cdubya> shasbot, hang on
[04:50] <spikeb> lkj1: it's in universe
[04:50] <skwid> amphi: well, i moved it with partition magic
[04:51] <lkj1> Wait. Now it says: E: Package fluxbox has no installation candidate
[04:51] <amphi> skwid: ah... perhaps a source of regret...
[04:51] <skwid> yes :(
[04:51] <lkj1> Do I need to enable universe?
[04:51] <spikeb> lkj1: yeah
[04:51] <NoUse> !tell lkj1 about fluxbox
[04:51] <cdubya> shasbot, do you have anything in /etc/network/interfaces referring to ath0?
[04:51] <amphi> skwid: windows doesn't like being moved around, AIR
[04:51] <skwid> amphi: yep
[04:51] <spikeb> windows doesn't like anything
[04:51] <skwid> amphi: but what do i do now :(
[04:52] <amphi> skwid: you should experiment in the grub shell, and see what gives you the error
[04:52] <shasbot> cudbya, ii dont know, im booted into windows currently
[04:52] <cdubya> shasbot, ewwww......
[04:52] <cdubya> heh
[04:52] <skwid> amphi: hum, can you give experiment suggestions ? :)
[04:52] <cdubya> shasbot, might check that to see what's up, then kinda go from there.....
[04:52] <shasbot> lol, yea i know... but i overwrote my other linux install
[04:52] <cdubya> ouch
[04:52] <cdubya> heh
[04:52] <lkj1> Thats good info, NoUse. Do I just need to add something to my sources.list?
[04:52] <amphi> skwid: try 'rootnoverify (hd0,4)' and enter, and if it accepts that, try 'chainloader +1', and enter, and then 'boot' & enter
[04:53] <shasbot> yea, i became annoyed with my gentoo isntall
[04:53] <NoUse> !tell lkj1 about repos
[04:53] <shasbot> i will boot the livecd and get back on
[04:53] <amphi> skwid: I think it's the rootnoverify line that would give that error, but you should check perhaps
[04:54] <amphi> skwid: have you tried with rootnoverify yet?
[04:54] <luke> luke@luke:~$ wall "hi"
[04:54] <luke> wall: will not read hi - use stdin.
[04:54] <luke> ?
[04:55] <jas_> anyone ever use the "watch video" feature at CNN? I'm having no joy there (Dapper Beta)
[04:55] <skwid> amphi: hum, i get an error with your commands, pasting
[04:55] <NoUse> luke echo "hi" | wall
[04:56] <luke> wow, ty NoUse
[04:56] <skwid> amphi: http://rafb.net/paste/results/eBbITs56.html
[04:56] <amphi> luke: echo foo | wall
[04:57] <luke> NoUse, amphi, is there any command I can use to notify all users in Gnome (if they arent using a console)?
[04:57] <amphi> skwid: interesting ;)
[04:57] <koburrokalla> Can someone help me with uninstalling ubuntu?
[04:58] <skwid> amphi: you find so :)
[04:58] <skwid> amphi: i'd say annoying :p
[04:58] <amphi> skwid: I'm inclined to blame partition magic, but that's probably just prejudice
[04:58] <Cin> Right... I fixed the home folder and login problem, seemed I was denied access to my home folder somehow.
[04:58] <Cin> That's happened before.
[04:58] <bon_> whats the best program to get hotmail through pop?
[04:58] <Skwid> amphi: bias ! :)
[04:59] <amphi> Cin: chown
[04:59] <NoUse> koburrokalla I would boot off your windows parition, run fixmbr and then you can delete the linux parition from inside windows
[04:59] <amphi> Skwid: verily
[04:59] <NoUse> koburrokalla boot off the windows CD, not partition
[04:59] <amphi> Skwid: may one ask why you did this?
[04:59] <Cin> Every once in a while, when I log in I get this problem of being denied write access to my own home directory.
[04:59] <Skwid> amphi: i needed to have another primary partition
[04:59] <Cin> Anyone encountered this before?
[04:59] <Skwid> and i had too many apparently
[04:59] <amphi> Skwid: why?
[04:59] <amphi> Skwid: yeah, 4 max
[04:59] <Skwid> so i thought, yay, let's move the windows guy :)
[05:00] <amphi> Skwid: for hysterical reasons
[05:00] <KaosX> Hello all
[05:00] <Skwid> amphi: OSx86 :)
[05:00] <koburrokalla> NoUse:  I have ubuntu installed on a second harddrive and can't take it out of the system because the Grub loader crashes.  The Linux partition is on the second hard drive
[05:00] <amphi> Skwid: you deserve to be punished for usuing more evil proprietary sw ;)
[05:00] <NoUse> koburrokalla thats what booting off the windows cd and running 'fixmbr' will fi x
[05:01] <Skwid> amphi: yeah, i guess that's my punishment :)
[05:01] <Skwid> amphi: any other experimenting ideas ?
[05:01] <koburrokalla> NoUse:  OK, so do I just boot into command prompt with windows cd?
[05:01] <shasbot> cdubya, where should i look for the files from the livecd?
[05:01] <NoUse> koburrokalla yes
[05:01] <NoUse> !tell koburrokalla about fixmbr
[05:01] <amphi> Skwid: I'm at a bit of a loss;grub doesn't like it - you could try (hd0,5) perhaps, but I don't see why that would work
[05:01] <KaosX> i just did the apt-get upgrade dist on my flight 6 box last night...Im glad the "this isnt the final artwork" splash is gone
[05:02] <Skwid> amphi: ok
[05:02] <cdubya> shasbot, /etc/network/interfaces
[05:02] <bon_> whats the best program to get hotmail through pop?
[05:02] <KaosX> thunderbird or evolution most likely
[05:03] <shasbot> cdubya. ok, i found the file and it mentions ath0
[05:03] <KaosX> thunderbird is from the mozilla folks
[05:03] <KaosX> really good app
[05:03] <cdubya> shasbot, you have a shell open?
[05:03] <Skwid> amphi: i get the same error with 0.5
[05:04] <shasbot> cdubya, i do now
[05:04] <amphi> Skwid: you didn't type (hd0.4) before, did you?
[05:05] <Skwid> no
[05:05] <amphi> just checking ;)
[05:05] <Skwid> amphi: #grub is dead :(
[05:06] <Guest_790> im having trouble loging in
[05:06] <Gidget42> guest: try changing ur nick
[05:06] <KaosX> cant you just cp your important directories (home)  to somewhere else and just reinstall?
[05:07] <cdubya> shasbot, lemme think....sorry.....talking to several people here at once.
[05:07] <Eleaf> Any operators around?
[05:07] <Skwid> amphi: oh wait ...
[05:07] <Skwid> did i need to do these as sudo ? :)
[05:07] <amphi> Skwid: the grub docs say explicitly that the first logical partition on the first hd is (hd0,4)
[05:07] <shasbot> cdubya, thats fine, take your time
[05:07] <Skwid> cause i just did, and it didnt give the error
[05:07] <amphi> Skwid: in the grub shell, there is no sudo
[05:08] <amphi> Skwid: wtf?
[05:08] <Skwid> amphi: but i launched 'sudo grub'
[05:08] <Skwid> amphi: uh ? i thought we were interested in the first _primary_ partition
[05:08] <Skwid> im confused now :)
[05:08] <amphi> Skwid: what are you doing? you need to do this in the grub shell at boot time
[05:08] <Skwid> amphi: haha
[05:08] <amphi> Skwid: you don't have one
[05:08] <Skwid> amphi: i was using a terminal
[05:08] <Skwid> amphi: my linux partitions are primary
[05:09] <Guest_790> I'm getting an error message that says "Failed to start the X server(your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly."
[05:09] <Guest_790> then it give me the optin to view the X server output to diagnose the problem
[05:09] <Skwid> amphi: sorry :)
[05:09] <Guest_790> anybody know wats goin on?
[05:09] <amphi> Skwid: no worries ;)
[05:10] <cdubya> shasbot, what I would do is copy the /etc/network/interfaces file to your home dir......then you can mv the real interfaces file to interfaces.old and replace it with the one that works...
[05:10] <amphi> Skwid: that 'rootnoverify (hd0,4) chainloader +1 boot' stuff yous should do in the grub shell, after rebooting, *before* lunix boots
[05:10] <shasbot> ok, i shall give this a go
[05:11] <Skwid> amphi: yeah, i just figured that out
[05:11] <Guest_790> has anybody ever seen that error message before at startup after installation
[05:11] <Guest_790> ?
[05:11] <KaosX> guest -- you can try this if youve got a shell
[05:11] <KaosX> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg
[05:12] <Skwid> alright, amphi ill be back
[05:12] <Skwid> i hooe :)
[05:12] <Skwid> hope
[05:12] <KaosX> it might be having issues figuring out your video card
[05:12] <Guest_790> really, do u know how to fix that?
[05:12] <KaosX> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg
[05:13] <KaosX> but youll need a command line shell
[05:13] <amphi> Guest_790: you might want to look at linux-laptop.net and/or tuxmobil.org to see if that laptop has any 'special needs'
[05:14] <cdubya> shasbot, have any luck?
[05:14] <KaosX> im sorry the command is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <KaosX> are you trying this from a live cd or an install?
[05:16] <mathieu_> i'm having trouble getting my sound card to work
[05:16] <mathieu_> the output works but I am unable to record
[05:16] <mathieu_> using the ubuntu dapper sound recorder application
[05:17] <shasbot> cdubya, well i can connect to the internet now, but the same error message comes up when i log on "cannot connect to ubuntu, may cause problems in gnome, try adding address to etc/hosts" and i still can't run the networking configuration tool
[05:17] <basilio> hi all
[05:18] <shasbot> also when i run sudo, i get the error of "unable to look up ubuntu via gethostbyname()"
[05:18] <basilio> im having problems installing gtkpod any advice im totally a newbie with one week using ubuntu and really happy
[05:18] <cdubya> shasbot, when you boot the system, and you see the output "Setting up ALSA card 0", right after that, you should see a "Configuring Network interfaces". Once you see that, hit Ctrl-C and kill the process.....then let it boot normally, and see if you can login and then run the networking tool.
[05:19] <basilio> i try apt-cache add gtkpod
[05:19] <shasbot> cdubya, ill go try that
[05:20] <primoturbo> Is it possible to get a Ubuntu cloak for freenode?
[05:20] <_damian-> magic mushrooms
[05:20] <_damian-> FUCK IM OFF MY HEAD
[05:21] <_damian-> have fun people i imm having more
[05:21] <_damian-> im sure im having more
[05:21] <Guest_790> does anybody know a website where i can download debian
[05:21] <_damian-> the debian one?
[05:21] <Guest_790> ubuntu doesnt work with my video
[05:22] <Guest_790> yea
[05:22] <_damian-> debian.com??
[05:22] <_damian-> der...
[05:22] <Guest_790> oh lol
[05:22] <Hobbsee> _damian-: language
[05:22] <primoturbo> debian is a bit outdated
[05:22] <primoturbo> but stable
[05:22] <_damian-> hobbsee sorry
[05:22] <Guest_790> wat do u guys recomend
[05:22] <_damian-> although deb ian has a much better apt source list
[05:23] <_damian-> Guest_790 try dsl
[05:23] <primoturbo> what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:23] <Guest_790> just a home computer
[05:23] <Guest_790> multimedia
[05:23] <_damian-> Guest_790 DSL
[05:23] <primoturbo> then Ubuntu will work
[05:23] <_damian-> damn small linux
[05:23] <Hobbsee> primoturbo: yeah, it is.  there's ones with membership, and there are unaffiliated ones from freenode
[05:23] <amphi> Guest_790: what is your video card?
[05:23] <Guest_790> its a radeon
[05:24] <amphi> Guest_790: what radeon?
[05:24] <primoturbo> ati sucks, I know I have a 9700 Pro
[05:24] <primoturbo> ATI cards have very shit driver support
[05:24] <amphi> Guest_790: lspci will tell you if you're not sure
[05:24] <primoturbo> Guest which radeon do you have?
[05:24] <primoturbo> do you want to play 3d games?
[05:24] <amphi> primoturbo: mine is supported by the xorg driver well enough
[05:24] <Guest_790> im not too sure, but its a 3d acclerator
[05:25] <primoturbo> can u check in your options?
[05:25] <amphi> Guest_790: pfft - do lspci and paste the _one_ relevant line of output in here
[05:25] <Guest_790> yea, im a newb, so can u tell me how to do that
[05:25] <primoturbo> display properties > settings > advanced and then adapter tab
[05:25] <amphi> Guest_790: do lspci in a term
[05:25] <woo> Is there a way for me to like... mount a remote ftp site, somewhere?
[05:25] <amphi> Guest_790: or the slow way ;)
[05:26] <primoturbo> if you can't use windows, it will be even harder to use Linux
[05:26] <amphi> woo: ISTR ftpfs being in the kernel
[05:26] <woo> amphi: Huh?
[05:26] <amphi> woo: that's what you're talkinga about, no?
[05:26] <woo> amphi: ISTR?
[05:26] <primoturbo> Guest_790 have you tried Linux before?
[05:27] <primoturbo> How long have you been using a computer?
[05:27] <Guest_790> it says VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies inco: unknown device 5a62
[05:27] <amphi> 'I seem to recall' - do none of you people have wtf(6) installed?
[05:27] <Guest_790> no, im really good with windows
[05:27] <Guest_790> but first trime with linux
[05:27] <primoturbo> doesnt sound like you have drivers installed for windows
[05:27] <amphi> Guest_790: what are you in now?
[05:27] <woo> amphi: How would I use ftpfs?
[05:27] <Guest_790> its a black screen where i login
[05:27] <shasbot> cdubya, that didn't work, i think the problem now is with sudo, it seems that anything that requires root is not working
[05:28] <Guest_790> it failed to startup because of my video card
[05:28] <primoturbo> If you are good with windows are you able to install windows xp on a unpartioned hard-drive?
[05:28] <Guest_790> yes
[05:28] <primoturbo> how do u not know what video card you have then?
[05:28] <CrocoJet> e ai pessoal
[05:28] <CrocoJet> qual eh a versao mais nova
[05:28] <CrocoJet> ops
[05:28] <Guest_790> should i go into system bios?
[05:28] <prospero2005> does anyone know which repository I can get sun-j2sdk or sun-j2re from?
[05:29] <amphi> woo: dunno, never tried; IIRC it's a plan 9 -ism that's come into linux; basically, it's a server that presents a remote site as part of your file system, so you use your normal shell tools to manipulate the files
[05:29] <VideoToaster> Hey everybody, I installed Kaffeine 0.8.1 today, but now the player freezes whenever I try to play an audio CD with it - I don't get any error messages and the disc never plays. Any ideas?
[05:29] <cdubya> shasbot, bummer.
[05:29] <prospero2005> Does anyone use eclipse with ant to compile java ?
[05:29] <woo> amphi: ah
[05:29] <primoturbo> it's not needed for Linux
[05:29] <cdubya> shasbot, so you can't do anything with sudo at all?
[05:29] <primoturbo> ati means you can use fglrx or ati driver
[05:29] <primoturbo> but I would not expect good 3d performance
[05:29] <VideoToaster> I'm using the debs from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154452
[05:30] <amphi> Guest_790: how old is this card?
[05:30] <shasbot> cdubya, correct, the error message i get upon logging in says it cant connect the internet ubuntu or something like that, and it reccomends adding ubuntu to etc/hosts
[05:30] <Guest_790> its a new laptop
[05:30] <Guest_790> got it for christmas
[05:30] <primoturbo> for example I get 125 fps (cap) in Windows XP playing Quake3 at highest settings 1024x768, I get about 90 playing under ubuntu and latest fglrx
[05:30] <amphi> woo: was that the sort of thing you're looking for?
[05:30] <woo> amphi: Hehe yeah, but I don't know how to use it :-/
[05:30] <cafuego> Yes, fglrx is a joke.
[05:30] <shasbot> cdubya, ubuntu is also my hostname so that may be what it is refering to
[05:30] <spikeb> heh
[05:30] <spikeb> cafuego you can say that again
[05:31] <cafuego> Yes, fglrx is a joke.
[05:31] <primoturbo> Guest_790 so you have burned Ubuntu LiveCD?
[05:31] <slackern> send ati a mail what you think about their linux drivers maybe with enough mails they'll start doing something.
[05:31] <jediel> fala
[05:31] <Guest_790> yes
[05:31] <Guest_790> and the install cd
[05:31] <amphi> woo: http://ftpfs.sourceforge.net/home.html
[05:31] <spikeb> slackern: good idea
[05:31] <cdubya> shasbot, are you still booted to the LiveCD?
[05:31] <Arrick> anyone I cant remember how to perform a low level format, can someone refresh my cobwebs please?
[05:31] <spikeb> slackern:  i think i will do that right now
[05:31] <slackern> thats what i did atleast.
[05:31] <primoturbo> I'll just not buy ATI next time, that's for sure
[05:31] <shasbot> cdubya, no, i am on my install
[05:31] <jediel> oi karina
[05:32] <spikeb> slackern: they tend to reply with: "the drivers are provided as is" though
[05:32] <the_Kane> hey
[05:32] <slackern> spikeb, haha indeed they do :)
[05:32] <amphi> woo: already obsolete ;)
[05:32] <the_Kane> does annyone here use spoon proxy ?
[05:32] <spikeb> i avoid ati where possible primoturbo:)
[05:32] <primoturbo> Guest explain pls what happens when u start up the LiveCD?
[05:32] <cdubya> shasbot.....k.
[05:33] <primoturbo> which version did u burn 5.10 or testing Dapper 6.06?
[05:33] <primoturbo> cause I have issues with Dapper 6.06 livecd not booting
[05:33] <shasbot> cdubya, for the record, /etc/hosts only has one line in it: "127.0.0.1 localhost"
[05:33] <cdubya> shasbot, k
[05:33] <amphi> woo: looks like LUFS is the way to go
[05:33] <woo> amphi: I almost got it working
[05:34] <cdubya> shasbot, yeah, I've only got that one as well, along with several ipv6 lines
[05:34] <woo> amphi: But by <file_system>://[<user>[:<pass>] @] [<host>] [:<port>] [/<remote_root>]  <mountpoint> [OPTIONS] 
[05:34] <amphi> woo: cool, I never tried it
[05:34] <woo> amphi: What do they mean file system?
[05:34] <amphi> woo: ftp I would presume
[05:34] <amphi> woo: in your case
[05:34] <ros_> Can anyone help trying to bring an md0 RAID0 device with 2 SATA HDs ?
[05:34] <woo> amphi: It said unsupported file system
[05:35] <amphi> woo: perhaps you need to resort to TFM ;)
[05:35] <dibblego> where do I start looking to remotely access my headless Ubuntu machine?
[05:35] <slackern> dibblego, ssh or vnc ?
[05:35] <shasbot> cdubya, is there anywhere i am supposed to specify the router address?
[05:35] <dibblego> slackern: I'm hoping for a display of some kind
[05:36] <cdubya> shasbot, hang on....
[05:36] <dibblego> I have a monitor on it at the moment - but I'm going to take it off
[05:36] <slackern> dibblego, System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[05:36] <cdubya> shasbot, sorry, no, not if your ath0 is setup for DHCP
[05:36] <slackern> dibblego, then use a vnc client like tightvnc to access it.
[05:37] <himsky1> hi
[05:37] <himsky1> hi everybody
[05:37] <amphi> woo: you used lufsmount with suitable args?
[05:37] <VideoToaster> Hey everybody, I installed Kaffeine 0.8.1 today, but now the player freezes whenever I try to play an audio CD with it - I don't get any error messages and the disc never plays. Any ideas?  I'm using the debs from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154452
[05:37] <shasbot> cdubya, it looks like it is: (in etc/network/interfaces):"iface ath0 inet dhcp
[05:37] <shasbot> wireless-essid linksys
[05:37] <shasbot> auto ath0
[05:37] <shasbot> "
[05:37] <himitsu> hi all
[05:37] <slackern> dibblego, you might want to uncheck "ask you for permission" since you can't click it when running headless.
[05:38] <dibblego> right, I've done that
[05:38] <Ryan-> is there some kind of ipconfig command for ubuntu?
[05:38] <slackern> Ryan-, ifconfig
[05:38] <Ryan-> hah thanks
[05:38] <Arrick> anyone I cant remember how to perform a low level format, can someone refresh my cobwebs please?
[05:38] <amphi> woo: or here's an example from TFM: mount -t lufs none /mnt/lufs -o nosuid,fs=ftpfs,host=ftp.sourceforge.net,username=mali,password=mypass,ftpactive
[05:38] <dli> Arrick, no need for low level format
[05:39] <amphi> Arrick: mkfs -t $FILE_SYSTEM_TYPE /dev/whatever
[05:39] <dibblego> cool that seems to work, thanks
[05:39] <slackern> dibblego, your welcome.
[05:40] <cdubya> shasbot, so can or can't you run the network helper?
[05:40] <bomin> anyone here play with encrypted filesystems at all?  I've had a passing interest in setting one up, but haven't really done any indepth research.
[05:40] <Skwid> amphi: wow ... some really funky stuff
[05:41] <shasbot> cdubya, i can run network tools, but i can't run the networking under system>administration
[05:42] <lufis> Hi. I have ubuntu and windows installed on the same hd. I booted into windows and then restarted to boot into ubuntu. I logged in to my ubuntu account and it wasn't connecting to the internet. I restarted, thinking it would fix it, and it did, but after I booted my monitor gave an error "OUT OF RANGE"... I reinstalled ubuntu not knowing what to do about it, and it still is doing the same thing.
[05:42] <amphi> woo: I just tried sshfs on localhost, seems to work ok, FWIW
[05:42] <amphi> Skwid: ?
[05:42] <zcat[1] > lufis: ctrl-alt-F1 should get you to a text login..
[05:42] <bbrazil> lufis: if you get an Out of Range, try pressing Crtl-Alt-F1, which should get you to a console. You can fix xorg from there
[05:43] <Arrick> amphi,  dli I need a low level format, and Im in woidows and they wont help me out
[05:43] <amphi> bomin: I've done encrypted loopback fs (fs-in-a-file)
[05:43] <Skwid> amphi: the command line seemed to work, but apparently my windows/system32 folder disapeared
[05:43] <amphi> Skwid: good riddance, I say ;)
[05:43] <lufis> Bbrazil, zcat: I don't think it's an xorg problem. It works until I log in using the gui... then out of range. It sounds like an xorg config error, I know, but I deleted the ubuntu partition and reinstalled, so all of the config files were erased. Wtf? :(
[05:43] <bbrazil> Arrick: with modern drives, I doubt you want a low level format. What are you trying to do?
[05:44] <amphi> Arrick: modern disks shouldn't be low-level formatted by $USER AFAIK
[05:44] <Skwid> amphi: sounds like a sign to get rid of windows for good heh :)
[05:44] <Arrick> bbrazil, its ancient, and I am trying to put it back to use n a 98 system
[05:44] <bbrazil> lufis: it probably put back exactly the same config files
[05:44] <Arrick> part of my studio
[05:44] <lufis> Bbrazil? How? the disk was erased
[05:44] <slackern> Arrick, Usually the manufacturers of the drives provides tools to do lowlevel formats, you should have a look at that.
[05:44] <dli> Arrick, sorry, I don't know windows
[05:44] <amphi> dli: it's not really a windows issue
[05:44] <Skwid> amphi: i think i'm going to format it
[05:45] <bbrazil> Arrick: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda bs=1024 count=1 <-- run this and then pop in the 98 CD (warning: this command is dangerous)
[05:45] <amphi> Skwid: better not to muck about with partitions without a backup ;)
[05:45] <bbrazil> Arrick: ssuming you want only 98
[05:45] <cdubya> shasbot, so what are you running then when you say network tools
[05:45] <zcat[1] > Well, I would still reconfigure xorg so there are no modes it can use that are out of range..
[05:45] <bomin> amphi: yeah it seems like the filesystem in a file is the way to go, easy to backup and such
[05:45] <Arrick> yeah
[05:45] <lufis> Zcat, ok. I'll try :(
[05:45] <Skwid> amphi: i have backups :)
[05:45] <Skwid> amphi: it's just a pain to reformat ..
[05:46] <bbrazil> Arrick: if there's no partition table, 98se will ask to create one
[05:46] <Skwid> amphi: is windows going to screw my ubuntu and grub if i reinstall 6
[05:46] <zcat[1] > log in text mode, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:46] <OpenSorce> ok.....total Kubuntu question I know......when using adept or apt and trying to install wine or winesetuptk they want to uninstall each other if the other is present......any clues why?
[05:46] <bbrazil> OpenSorce: probably a Confilcts in one of the packages
[05:46] <Arrick> hey bbrazil bad command
[05:47] <amphi> bomin: yeah; you might find this of use: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/81
[05:47] <bbrazil> Arrick: exact error?
[05:47] <Arrick> bad command or file name,
[05:47] <amphi> Skwid: it'll obliterate grub, but it's easy enough to boot off a cd and reinstall grub
[05:47] <shasbot> cdubya, applications>system tools>network tools
[05:47] <bbrazil> Arrick: you typed 'dd' as teh command?
[05:47] <siimo> hi how do i remove the update notification thingy in the top right corner of the screen for users that are not sudoers? since they cant do nothin about it anyway
[05:47] <Skwid> amphi: darn
[05:47] <Arrick> yeah, what was I supposed to do?
[05:47] <shasbot> cdubya, i cant seem to be able to fix anything from there though
[05:47] <Skwid> amphi: ok
[05:48] <amphi> Skwid: not the config, just what's in the mbr
[05:48] <OpenSorce> bbrazil: yeah gotta be, just want newbs to be able to install both and use winesetup to configure wine with getting into that whole dirty console thing :-P
[05:48] <amphi> Arrick: ?
[05:48] <Skwid> amphi: yeah
[05:48] <Arrick> do me a favor, type only what i am supposed to type right quick
[05:48] <lrojas> any news on dapper?
[05:48] <dfgas> lrojas, its pretty and evern more pretty with xgl
[05:48] <bbrazil> Arrick: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda bs=1024 count=1           (Warning: dangerous command)
[05:48] <amphi> OpenSorce: 'dirty console thing'???
[05:49] <SmittyINSIDE> it's coming out June 6th (or thereabouts), right?
[05:49] <Flannel> SmittyINSIDE: 1, june 1.
[05:49] <dfgas> sometime in june
[05:49] <amphi> bbrazil: how will that benefit him?
[05:49] <shasbot> cdubya, i was looking around online and i found a suggestion to restart in recovery mode, and then set etc/hosts to
[05:49] <shasbot> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost <yourhostname>
[05:49] <SmittyINSIDE> oh right on
[05:49] <Arrick> hey bbrazil is that a unix style command, the slashes look backwards for windows
[05:49] <bbrazil> Arrick: oh, you're on windows?
[05:49] <Arrick> no, I am on nothing at the moment
[05:49] <amphi> Arrick: what are you trying to do?
[05:49] <OpenSorce> amphi: hehe......I'm testing Kubuntu for use for windows users.....real newbs
[05:49] <Arrick> no os
[05:50] <lrojas> was just wondering if we would be able to install fluxbox to replace gnome
[05:50] <bbrazil> amphi: if the partitions are trashed, the 98 install cd will created from scratch in my experiance
[05:50] <Flannel> lrojas: you don't have to replace gnome, they can coexist.  but yeah you can.
[05:50] <Arrick> trying to put an os on this &*^% machine so I can get dignostics on it
[05:50] <dfgas> lrojas, you can install anything
[05:50] <bomin> amphi: this looks pretty straight forward, I'll have to try it out.  I was thinking about storing my mail archives (accessed via Mutt) on an encrypted filesystem.. writing a wrapper script to mount the fs, get my mail, unmount
[05:50] <lrojas> dfgas, what is xgl ?
[05:50] <cdubya> shasbot, you might try doing a sudo hostname whatever_hostname_you_want_to_use when you reboot to recovery mode.
[05:50] <amphi> bbrazil: does the installer not run fdisk? it's been a while ;)
[05:50] <cdubya> then check it with hostname
[05:50] <siimo> no way to remove update notification for non admin users?
[05:50] <shasbot> cdubya, ok
[05:51] <dibblego> slackern: when I reboot the machine, the VNC server has not started - can it be started automatically?
[05:51] <Arrick> I've tried 5 hard drives and the os gets to the point "starting windows now" with 98 xp 2000 and blue screens
[05:51] <bbrazil> amphi: the 98 cd runs fdisk depending on whether there are already partitions
[05:51] <bomin> amphi: but as soon as you talk about automating something, you place your password at risk.. so prob not a good idea
[05:51] <bbrazil> Arrick: what are you currently running on this system?
[05:51] <RememberPOL> Hey will 6.06 have Xgl?
[05:51] <Arrick> ther is no os on it
[05:51] <Arrick> nothing
[05:51] <Arrick> bare partition
[05:51] <slackern> dibblego, oh it isn't started? hmm i'll have to look into that.
[05:51] <amphi> bomin: if the mail wasn't sent encrypted, everyone's read it already ;)
[05:51] <bbrazil> Arrick: so how are you interacting with the system?
[05:51] <cdubya> shasbot, that will change the hostname to something other than ubuntu hopefully....:D
[05:52] <slackern> dibblego, have only used it shortly myself.
[05:52] <Arrick> not even formattd yet
[05:52] <Arrick> yes
[05:52] <RememberPOL> !Xgl
[05:52] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[05:52] <RememberPOL> ?Xgl
[05:52] <dibblego> slackern: any ideas of where to look?
[05:52] <amphi> bbrazil: you mean, if there's a valid partition table, it doesn't give the option to fdisk??
[05:52] <slackern> dibblego, i'm heading for the forums to look :)
[05:52] <Arrick> I put the 98 boot floppy in so I caould get to the A: drive, but have nothing else
[05:52] <bbrazil> amphi: iirc, been a while. I use partimage these days ;)
[05:52] <Drac|Win> When trying to partition my primary and secondary harddrives for root, swap and home, I get "Partition map has no partition map entry!     ERROR!!!!" with the options to 'Fix' or 'Cancel'. I've tried to work my way around this, but I can't seem to. Can somebody help?
[05:52] <amphi> bbrazil: sounds stupid enough to be true :)
[05:52] <bbrazil> Arrick: ah, you should have mentioned you were in DOS
[05:52] <Drac|Win> This is in the installation partitioner, of course.
[05:52] <Arrick> ok
[05:53] <bbrazil> Arrick: run 'fdisk /mbr'
[05:53] <amphi> Drac|Win: has the disk ever been partitioned?
[05:53] <bbrazil> (once again, dangerous command)
[05:53] <Arrick> okwhat next?
[05:53] <slackern> dibblego, here is another approach to it  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402&highlight=remote+desktop+reboot
[05:53] <woo> bbrazil: What's he trying to do?
[05:53] <amphi> woo: install a legacy os, I believe
[05:53] <bbrazil> woo: install win98 on a system that previously had ubuntu afaict
[05:53] <Arrick> yep
[05:54] <Drac|Win> amphi: Yes. I'm working with a beige Mac G3. It was full of Mac partitioning. There were at least 10 partitions. I deleted them all in the new plan and set it to format with one big partition.
[05:54] <amphi> woo: we are being indulgent ;)
[05:54] <Arrick> no
[05:54] <spikeb> Drac|Win: you need at least three partitions on a mac
[05:54] <bomin> amphi: oh I know, but the difference between someone reading a message that may have passed through their MTA, and someone reading all my messages in one place is pretty big. I'm just brainstroming btw, I'd probably do quite a bit more reading before putting something in to production
[05:54] <Arrick> it had 98 on it previously and they wiped it cause it was a network system
[05:54] <Arrick> but anyways what next?
[05:54] <Drac|Win> spikeb: I have them on the primary harddrive. More than three.
[05:54] <amphi> Drac|Win: if there's nothing on there, try fix perhaps; otherwise, boot from some cd and partition yourself
[05:55] <Drac|Win> amphi: I AM booted from the CD. :P
[05:55] <amphi> bomin: echelon hears everyhthing ;)
[05:55] <spikeb> Drac|Win: just make sure that you have an apple bootstrap partition and a swap partition in addition to whatever else, and you're good
[05:55] <bbrazil> Arrick: fdisk, and setup your partitions. Make sure the first one is bootable. If it's older than a P2 the first partition should be less that 1GB
[05:55] <Arrick> its 500mhz
[05:55] <amphi> Drac|Win: er, yes, but a cd that lets you just run [c|s] fdisk
[05:55] <Drac|Win> spikeb: What partitions do I need to leave in the secondary drive, if that's what's causing this error?
[05:55] <dibblego> slackern: cheers, I'll give it a go
[05:55] <slackern> dibblego, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158206&highlight=remote+desktop+reboot someone with same problem as you
[05:56] <RememberPOL> i hope so.
[05:56] <amphi> bomin: but point taken - you can trivially write a script that will mount the file, prompting for the passphrase, run mutt if that's succesful, and umount when mutt terminates
[05:56] <spikeb> Drac|Win: you need an apple bootstrap partition somewhere, along with swap, and /
[05:56] <dibblego> I'll try the hard one first :)
[05:57] <Drac|Win> spikeb: In the secondary drive? Okay.
[05:57] <bbrazil> Arrick: then run 'setup'
[05:57] <spikeb> i think the bootstrap can be on the first drive, acutally, but i'm not sure.
[05:57] <Arrick> ok
[05:57] <bbrazil> Arrick: dunno how it work with flopies, I've only done it with a CD
[05:58] <bomin> amphi: yeah shouldn't be too difficult, thanks much for the link btw
[05:58] <Arrick> I have the 98 cd, but gotta be able to aces it first
[05:58] <slackern> dibblego, aye it seems like the best idea i think, or otherwise there seems to be something called freenx which does about the same thing.
[05:58] <Clint-> hello everyone,
[05:58] <bbrazil> Arrick: you sure it's a 500Mhz?
[05:58] <Arrick> yeah
[05:58] <bbrazil> Arrick:I'm supries it doesn't boot off CD
[05:58] <dibblego> Dapper looks pretty by the way - I just installed the 12052006 daily build
[05:58] <Clint-> I been , challenging myself, to find out, what a package needs, and dependancies, and manually installing them
[05:58] <Drac|Win> spikeb: I would think so, but apparently the partitioner wants one on both...
[05:59] <Arrick> it is
[05:59] <spikeb> Drac|Win: heh
[05:59] <slackern> dibblego, did you use the livecd installer?
[05:59] <Clint-> dibblego: , yes, I'm using latest, alpha 7
[05:59] <dibblego> slackern: I believe I did
[05:59] <amphi> bomin: d-a.org has useful articles sometimes
[06:00] <Clint-> I did the , text mode, because I'm more to the advanced, and it is , worth studying, what its needed to know, to use open source, also, got CodeWeavers Cross Over Professoinal on it, 5
[06:00] <slackern> dibblego, ahh nice, i had some problems when i tried it so haven't tried them in a while now.
[06:00] <dibblego> I installed from http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/dapper-install-i386.iso
[06:00] <Clint-> if anyone wants to team up, for the wirelss support. plz let me know
[06:00] <dibblego> disabling/enabling my wireless NIC makes my system freeze
[06:00] <dibblego> speaking of wireless
[06:00] <Arrick> bbrazil, its checking fat now
[06:01] <Clint-> I been really challenging myself
[06:01] <Clint-> I Like how, fat, and especially ntfs automounts now
[06:01] <Arrick> dibblego, do you disable your other nic when you enable the wireless?
[06:02] <Clint-> I probably, might just, set up the ndiswrapper,
[06:02] <slackern> darn i want a wireless card to play around with too *sulks*
[06:02] <dibblego> my other NICs are disabled at all times
[06:02] <Arrick> ok
[06:02] <Drac|Win> spikeb: Success! I left the Mac crap in the slave as well, and everything went smoothly. :)
[06:02] <Clint-> hey people, ubuntu discovered my Broadcom, Air Foirce etc, 802.11 b/g built in WLAN , however, maybe something further more i need to do?
[06:02] <dibblego> one is an ethernet, the other is a modem
[06:03] <shasbot> cdubya, ok i changed /etc/hosts and my hostname and now it works, thanks for all your hel
[06:03] <shasbot> help
[06:03] <dibblego> actually, they are not "disabled", they are not even "configured"
[06:03] <Arrick> bbrazil, ok bad disk, time for another then
[06:03] <dibblego> it's not a big deal anyway - thought I'd mention it
[06:03] <cdubya> shasbot, very kewl. Don't feel like I helped much, but extremely happy for you that you're up. :)
[06:03] <Clint-> dibblego:
[06:04] <spikeb> Drac|Win: good, good
[06:04] <Clint-> want to know whats really cool sometimes, the challenges of open source, :)
[06:04] <Arrick> even if not configged you gotta disable them or the collide for soe reason dibblego
[06:04] <cafuego> Clint-: Disable the built-in driver, use ndiswrapper.
[06:04] <Clint-> hey cafuego
[06:05] <dibblego> Arrick: there is no option to disable or enable them
[06:05] <cafuego> Clint-: 4318 support isn't usebale yet, afaik.
[06:05] <Clint-> Acer's do have some problems hee, with linux, just couple is all
[06:05] <dibblego> System->Administration->Networking
[06:05] <Clint-> how did ya know,
[06:05] <dibblego> "Properties" "Activate" "Deactivate" - I can only select Properties
[06:05] <Arrick> ok
[06:05] <Clint-> this user, got it with Slackware  10.2 , using ndiswrapper, so yeah I guess you right on that, thats what I was going do, I'm not even up yet in it, I have to get some depedancies,
[06:06] <Clint-> Acer Aspire 3613 WLCi
[06:06] <Clint-> but, I'm not ready to get out of the debian based systems, so :)
[06:06] <cafuego> Clint-: Poeple have reported hardlocks using the bcm43xx driver on 4318 hardware, it's still udner contruction. Only the 4306 really works sofar.
[06:07] <Clint-> its nice, just teaching yourself, to install packages manually, and there dependancies, can be pain, but its worth the effort, to making advanced user
[06:07] <Clint-> oh
[06:07] <Clint-> so you know some stuff on that, maybe you could help
[06:07] <mud2005> im trying to install bcm43xx on presario 5000z and having no luck at all
[06:07] <Clint-> I would be greatly appreciative , and share my information with the people , with help with laptops and etc
[06:08] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[06:08] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[06:08] <Clint-> well, I'm going eh, put myself to the challenges, I'm sure I"ll figure it out
[06:08] <Clint-> hey guys
[06:08] <Arrick> !patience
[06:08] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:08] <mud2005> ndiswrapper works but only with acpi=off; is it possible to get battery info with acpi or apm?????
[06:08] <majd> What do i put in for my domain when setting up samba?
[06:08] <Clint-> 1 important question before I get this package, anyway, I can like.. download, or put together cd , for gettin packages
[06:09] <Clint-> yes, typing, acpi
[06:09] <Clint-> will let you know information, you could probably build your own gui interface for telling you,
[06:09] <Clint-> in the console mud2005, thanks for that info
[06:09] <mud2005> i have 4318 also
[06:09] <Flannel> Clint-: you mean like, download packages, then sneakernet them to the computer?
[06:09] <Clint-> but I am not sure, oh , if disable the acpi, will that block ya from getting info from the console o.o
[06:10] <Clint-> yes, because its kind of tiring , manually getting all the dependancies, packages i need lol
[06:10] <Clint-> :P
[06:10] <mud2005> i used noapic nolapic acpi=off, doesnt block anything but battery monitor i think
[06:10] <Clint-> I get on my windows system, then I get packages, then save to my lacie, 80 GB, and then install hee
[06:10] <Clint-> you have a WLAn like I do?
[06:11] <Arrick> just burn them to a cd, you'll use them again sometime
[06:11] <Clint-> if I can just get pass this thing, I would be more than happy, be a designated, wireless support, and driver etc
[06:11] <mud2005> Clint- i have wlan presario 5000z
[06:11] <Clint-> well, Arrick, I am actually going put together, my own linux system in the future, taking the kernel, then drivers, etc.. packages up to me, and gui
[06:12] <mud2005> i had to download bcml5a.inf from dell to get it working with ndiswrapper
[06:12] <lrojas> Clint, that is more work than what is worth i think
[06:12] <spikeb> nah
[06:12] <Arrick> oh ok
[06:12] <spikeb> it's a lot of fun
[06:12] <Arrick> yeah
[06:12] <Clint-> i hear about that, so , what all do I need from ndiswrapper, what all packages, etc..
[06:12] <spikeb> Clint-: that's what LFS is all about :)
[06:12] <mud2005> ndiswrapper-utils
[06:12] <Clint-> well, its worth it to me, because I challenge myself with everything in th IT world :)
[06:13] <Clint-> k, I go tthat,
[06:13] <mud2005> and .inf from windows driver
[06:13] <Clint-> cool, yeah, my buddy was tellin me that, he uses knoppix, we use windows for what we need it for, and linux
[06:13] <cg> after install ubuntu, my w2k cannot start,:(
[06:13] <Clint-> you see, I work with TEchSmith Camtasia, Maxon 3d, rhino 3d,
[06:14] <Clint-> I almost got, CodeWeavers CrossOver Pro 5, on ubuntu I custom instaled, to run maxon
[06:14] <Clint-> cg
[06:14] <varsendagger> hey my alsa won't come up what gives
[06:14] <Clint-> I can help you with that
[06:14] <NoUse> cg what error do you get?
[06:14] <cg> it tells me ntkernel.exe not found
[06:14] <Clint-> I use , Acronis Disk Director Suite , to manage alot of my partitions , and operating systems bud
[06:14] <Clint-> i promise ya, I can help you get it back
[06:15] <NoUse> cg did do you do anything to you rwindows partition?
[06:15] <mud2005> does anyone know if its possible to get laptop battery info without acpi or apm?
[06:15] <Clint-> oh, you overwrote the systems root kernel?
[06:15] <fiendskull9> hey guys
[06:15] <fiendskull9> am i i686?
[06:15] <cg> before install ubuntu, i use partition magic to repartion it, and w2k is ok.
[06:15] <Clint-> cg: , what exactly did ya do
[06:15] <fiendskull9> its an intel p4 proscessor
[06:16] <fiendskull9> im just wondering
[06:16] <spikeb> fiendskull9: yes you are
[06:16] <Clint-> I don't really care for Symantec
[06:16] <mud2005> fiendskull9, yes
[06:16] <Clint-> or even, Paragon which I used out side of partition magic, Acronis Disk Director , has been best ever :)
[06:16] <Clint-> I even have a cd, I created, in case ever, I lost the OS Seletor, etc. partitions etc..
[06:17] <Clint-> cg: , want me show you what I'm talkin about?
[06:17] <lwizardl> can someone help me with getting a java app to load from a link to application
[06:17] <cg> i have to reinstall w2k to see if i can repaie it.
[06:17] <cg> Clint, yes
[06:17] <cg> thanks for any help!
[06:17] <lrojas> ubuntu should be customizable... like if i didnt want a File manager, and only the fluxbox WM, it should be easy to set that up
[06:18] <spikeb> lrojas: that's what the sub-projects are for.
[06:18] <Arrick> lrojas, it is customizable, you just gotta have skills
[06:18] <Clint-> cg, check this, http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/products/diskdirectorsuite/multibooting.html
[06:18] <Arrick> !dualboot
[06:18] <Clint-> Symantec's Partition Magic, has nothing on them
[06:18] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:18] <dibblego> system froze :)
[06:18] <Clint-> and no other software, I have tested, does :)
[06:19] <Clint-> I am testing with, dapper, pc bsd 1.0. and other systems
[06:19] <lwizardl> !javadebs
[06:19] <Arrick> !java
[06:19] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:19] <voododo> 
[06:19] <Clint-> lol iratsu
[06:19] <Clint-> iroj
[06:19] <voododo> 
[06:19] <Clint-> well it is..
[06:19] <Clint-> you just have to strip all the software out :P
[06:20] <Clint-> or do a , server install :P
[06:20] <dibblego> when I boot my machine without a keyboard/mouse, CMOS complains about missing keyboard - can I tell it to stop caring?
[06:20] <Alimah> IRC
[06:21] <Arrick> dibblego, yeah in the bios, turn off errors
[06:21] <Clint-> lol @ skills
[06:21] <ferronica> hi room
[06:21] <ferronica> HELP ME!
[06:21] <Clint-> know, just study , the information it takes, to do what you want, and people , we are capable of alot of things, thats why I'm studying Artificial inteligence :-)
[06:21] <amphi> ferronica: 'channel'
[06:21] <Arrick> !ask
[06:21] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[06:21] <varsendagger> hey how can i disable sound startup using CLI?
[06:21] <ferronica> sorry
[06:22] <Clint-> dibblego: , put your cmos on, halt on no errors
[06:22] <ferronica> everytime my BIOS time changed
[06:22] <amphi> spikeb: that's the canonical behaviour
[06:22] <ferronica> and ubuntu timer also
[06:22] <voododo> ubuntu
[06:22] <spikeb> hehe amphi
[06:22] <spikeb> anyone know what language voododo is talking?
[06:22] <voododo> 
[06:22] <cg> Clint, that software seems good. but can it make my this installed w2k start?
[06:22] <Flannel> voododo: only english here.  which language do you prefer?
[06:22] <Clint-> k, tim to eat pizza
[06:22] <Clint-> yes it can
[06:23] <Alimah> 
[06:23] <ferronica> what i do
[06:23] <amphi> spikeb: .cn it would seem
[06:23] <cg> voododo, debian-zh
[06:23] <Clint-> I'm goin eat pizza,
[06:23] <Clint-> cg, I wil help you bud
[06:23] <Polygon> hello, i recently switched wireless network cards and i was told i need to configure this manually, how do i do this?
[06:23] <Clint-> ;)
[06:23] <ferronica> ubuntu didn give correst time of my country
[06:23] <spikeb> !cn
[06:23] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese, please join #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-tw
[06:23] <spikeb> boy that's helpful
[06:24] <amphi> Polygon: what is the new card, pray tell?
[06:24] <cg> Clint, do you have good idea?
[06:24] <ferronica> HELP!
[06:24] <Flannel> ferronica: do you only have ubuntu on your system?
[06:24] <amphi> ferronica: tzconfig perhaps
[06:24] <Polygon> dlink dwl-g520
[06:24] <amphi> ferronica: please don't shout
[06:24] <amphi> ferronica: is your bios clock set to UTC?
[06:24] <ferronica> Flannel: no, i hav two OS ubuntu and Xp pro. both in seperate HDD
[06:24] <amphi> Polygon: I wot not of it, sorry
[06:25] <Polygon> wot?
[06:25] <odat> hi everyone
[06:25] <odat> any special room for ubuntu on a mac?
[06:25] <lufis> How can I have write access to a win NTFS partition?
[06:25] <ferronica> amphi: what is UTC
[06:25] <Flannel> lufis: in a nutshell, you cant safely.
[06:25] <IcemanV9> lufis: you don't
[06:25] <amphi> ferronica: AKA GMT
[06:25] <lufis> Flannel, icemanv9: damn. how about unsafely?
[06:26] <Polygon> i read somewhere that the same guys who made windows on mac are making linux on mac or something
[06:26] <ferronica> amphi: before logging i pressed F2 and sets my country time, again same thing ubuntu showing me wrong time
[06:26] <odat> any special room for ubuntu on a mac?
[06:26] <amphi> ferronica: if your bios clock is set to local time, your suffering will increase; it should be set to GMT/UTC and then your TZ should be configured correctly
[06:26] <Arrick> no
[06:26] <Flannel> Polygon: you can already have linux on macs.
[06:26] <IcemanV9> lufis: you've been warned, but it's your choice :)
[06:26] <lufis> icemanv9: ok :)
[06:26] <Polygon> just saying =P
[06:26] <_damian-> Polygon iu can theres ubun tu for mac too u know
[06:27] <ferronica> amphi: everytime same problem
[06:27] <spikeb> i dont know how well supported the intel macs are though
[06:27] <Alimah> is it possible to have two linux distributions on one computer? (Red hat and Ubuntu?)
[06:27] <Flannel> lufis: theres a project working to emulate NTFS write support.  I dont remember the project name, googling should be fruitful though.
[06:27] <Flannel> Alimah: yep
[06:27] <spikeb> Alimah: yes
[06:27] <Alimah> ok
[06:27] <lufis> Flannel: ok, thank you.
[06:27] <ferronica> amphi: how to set it to GMT/UTC
[06:27] <Flannel> spikeb: for intelmacs, you just use the intel installs.  Its based on Hardware, not software.
[06:27] <mendahu> @find celestia antiqua
[06:28] <spikeb> Flannel: that's what i am saying - i don't know how well the intel mac hardware is supported.
[06:28] <ferronica> amphi: how to set it???
[06:28] <odat> Flannel, i am having problems getting the cd to boot
[06:28] <Polygon> ok anyway, can anyone help me configure a new network card?
[06:28] <Flannel> spikeb: oh, the peripherals.  gotcha.
[06:28] <ferronica> amphi: everytime bios time get changed automatically
[06:29] <ferronica> amphi: will u tell me from where to set
[06:29] <amphi> ferronica: every what time?
[06:29] <penguin-1> ferronica: are you saying your bios is not retaining your time settings?
[06:29] <Arrick> if you are get a new battery
[06:29] <ferronica> amphi: yes penguin-1
[06:29] <amphi> penguin-1: after boot, linux doesn't read from the cmos clock
[06:30] <penguin-1> ferronica: yes if its not retaining your settings you may need to get a new battery then
[06:30] <amphi> ferronica: have you set your TZ correctly?
[06:30] <amphi> ferronica: you can use ntp to set the system clock
[06:30] <ferronica> penguin-1: my bettery is OK
[06:31] <Flannel> amphi: that won't play well with windows.
[06:31] <Flannel> I imagine that's the problem.  windows likes system clock to be localtime.
[06:31] <ferronica> amphi: i what is TZ
[06:31] <Polygon>  can anyone help me configure a new network card?
[06:31] <vook> Just to save everyone some time, I installed Windows Vista two days ago.  It's already thrashing.  It is considerably better than XP or 2000, but Microsoft is still stuck on that stupid ntfs filesystem and that ridiculous filesystem structure.  Will they ever learn?
[06:31] <amphi> ferronica: sorry, timezone
[06:32] <amphi> vook: drive letters?
[06:32] <vook> amphi, I know, what gives?
[06:32] <linuxcrazy> arggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:32] <ferronica> amphi: If i boot again and RESET my bios time correctly, and again if i see my BIOS time incorrect
[06:32] <linuxcrazy> why me?!
[06:32] <ferronica> amphi: my timezone is correct, no problem
[06:33] <amphi> vook: I was asking - they're so quaintly medieval ;)
[06:33] <vook> amphi, sometimes I just want to play some video games or load up Adobe Audition, ya know, but, damn, is it worth it?
[06:33] <linuxcrazy> I tried to install cedega and it says it can't fing gtk!!!
[06:33] <linuxcrazy> what the...
[06:33] <amphi> ferronica: do you have ntpdate installed? if not, do 'sudo apt-get install ntpdate'
[06:33] <Polygon>  can anyone help me configure a new network card?
[06:34] <amphi> vook: I would say no, but then I haven't used windows in a while - YMMV
[06:35] <nbound> damn wine... i want 0.9.13 dammit :P
[06:35] <vook> amphi, I miss really good professional audio mixing, processing software, that and some worms armageddon without the bugs of cedega.
[06:35] <varsendagger> hey how can i disable sound startup using CLI?
[06:35] <ferronica> amphi: ntpdate is already the newest version.
[06:35] <NoUse> !tell nbound about wine
[06:36] <nbound> NoUse, i know... im just having a whinge...
[06:36] <amphi> vook: surely, there are serious gaps in the free software catalogue :(
[06:36] <NoUse> nbound ok
[06:36] <amphi> ferronica: so do sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart
[06:36] <varsendagger> vook, amphi   have you used ardour?
[06:36] <re> huh...
[06:36] <ferronica> amphi: but what abot my BIOS time
[06:36] <vook> amphi, I think I'm just going to have to buy some real audio equipment.
[06:37] <vook> varsendagger, no, hmmm.
[06:37] <linuxcrazy> I try to install cedega and it says it can't find libgtk
[06:37] <ferronica> amphi: Ok
[06:37] <nbound> linuxcrazy, well get it!
[06:37] <ferronica> amphi:  * Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org...                         [ ok ] 
[06:38] <amphi> ferronica: the time should now be correct - is it? type date in a term
[06:38] <linuxcrazy> ok
[06:38] <linuxcrazy> I think it working now
[06:38] <acetech> what is the best method of removing all kde applications and libraries?
[06:38] <i3dmaster> I want to add a wm entry into the kdm menu, how to do that?
[06:38] <ferronica> amphi:  my time
[06:38] <spikeb> acetech: removing libqt-mt with apt
[06:38] <erothoff> Can anyone help me get the PCMCIA drivers working for an ATI SB400 chipset Notebook?
[06:38] <amphi> ferronica: ?
[06:38] <majd> Hi, ok i setup my samba server but when i try to access it, it windows asks me for username/password
[06:38] <majd> and i can't figure out what they are
[06:38] <odat> anyone have experience installing ubuntu on a mac?
[06:39] <Drac|Win> Why does "mount /dev/hdc6 -t hfsplus /mnt/mac" fail with "invalid argument" ?
[06:39] <ferronica> amphi:  what i type???
[06:39] <bbrazil> majd: do you want it to ask for a password at all?
[06:39] <amphi> ferronica: you mean date shows you localtime?
[06:39] <nbound> linuxcrazy, why waste money on cedega when wine is almost as good
[06:39] <majd> bbrazil, not really
[06:39] <bbrazil> majd: public = yes
[06:39] <spikeb> cedega has much better game support
[06:39] <amphi> ferronica: type 'date' in a term, and see if the time is correct (your local time)
[06:39] <ferronica> amphi: right now it showing correct
[06:39] <Drac|Win> nbound: WINE is NOT almost as good. It can't handle Direct X at all!
[06:39] <bbrazil> majd: just be careful with that and writable shares
[06:39] <spikeb> wine works with wow, thats all i need it to do :)
[06:39] <amphi> ferronica: ok; no do 'sudo hwclock --systohc --utc'
[06:40] <majd> bbrazil, why? security?
[06:40] <nbound> Drac|Win, uh are u joking? of course it handles directx
[06:40] <amphi> ferronica: now do
[06:40] <satempler> Drac|Win: umm
[06:40] <vook> varsendagger, oh, wait, yeah, I have used that.  I haven't put too much time into it though.  It's worth another look indeed.  I'd like real-time audio processing, sort of like a digital guitar pedal.
[06:40] <Drac|Win> spikeb: You got WoW to work under WINE alone? O_o
[06:40] <satempler> Drac|Win: what about Cediga
[06:40] <bbrazil> majd: yip
[06:40] <i3dmaster> Drac|Win, what if you do 'mount -t fs_type dev mon_point
[06:40] <spikeb> Drac|Win: yeah it works
[06:40] <majd> bbrazil, well i wouldn't mind the password if i knew what it is
[06:40] <majd> lol
[06:40] <bbrazil> majd: XP?
[06:40] <Drac|Win> spikeb: Amazing. o_o
[06:40] <nbound> Drac|Win, WoW works under wine straight out of the box
[06:40] <ferronica> done
[06:41] <majd> bbrazil, yeah
[06:41] <ferronica> amphi: done
[06:41] <Drac|Win> i3dmaster: I think I tried that already, but alright. I'll try it again.
[06:41] <spikeb> Drac|Win:  it's the only game i've tried though
[06:41] <bbrazil> majd: use smbpasswd to set the password
[06:41] <Flannel> Drac|Win: yeah, WOW works on wine.  theres plenty of forum topics about it.
[06:41] <spikeb> Drac|Win: neverwinter nights doesn't count since it has a native binary
[06:41] <amphi> ferronica: that sets your bios clock to UTC/GMT, based on the system (kernel) time
[06:41] <linuxcrazy> DARN!!!
[06:41] <linuxcrazy> I can't believe
[06:41] <linuxcrazy> this*
[06:41] <amphi> !enter
[06:41] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:41] <nbound> im hoping the direct3d fixes in this version will let me see around in oblivion
[06:41] <bbrazil> majd: if you happen to be on a multi-user system you can use PAM so that every time you do a passwd, it'll also update the smbpasswd
[06:41] <linuxcrazy> piece of stupid crap!!!
[06:41] <acetech> spikeb: libqt-mv is already removed and i can still open qt applications
[06:41] <i3dmaster> Drac|Win, you'r sure hfsplus is supported. I didn't check but it doesn't sound familiar to me though../
[06:42] <majd> bbrazil, that's the thing, i never set my samba password so i don't know what my old samba password is
[06:42] <spikeb> hmm
[06:42] <ferronica> amphi: ok stay in channel let me boot my computer and check my bios time okay
[06:42] <majd> no i'm only user
[06:42] <spikeb> acetech: that is what i was told
[06:42] <linuxcrazy> I can't even get a stupid gnome app to work!!
[06:42] <Polygon>  can anyone help me configure a new network card?
[06:42] <bbrazil> majd: you don't need the old one (there probably isn't one)
[06:42] <spikeb> acetech: ask in #kubuntu
[06:42] <majd> machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Account disabled.
[06:42] <majd> Failed to change password for majd
[06:42] <amphi> ferronica: I hear and obey
[06:42] <odat> anyone have experience installing ubuntu on a mac?
[06:42] <ferronica> amphi: in clock preference what to check
[06:42] <bbrazil> Polygon: does it show up in lspci?
[06:42] <spikeb> odat: i have
[06:42] <amphi> ferronica: clock preference?
[06:42] <bbrazil> majd: use sudo with it
[06:42] <ferronica> amphi: yes
[06:42] <Polygon> well i just installed it like 10 min ago
[06:42] <Drac|Win> i3dmaster: I've done it many times before. This is part of how you get BootX to work. You mount the hfsplus partition, then copy the new initrd.img to the System Folder for Mac OS 9. Anyway, yeah. It's supported.
[06:43] <bbrazil> Polygon: wired?
[06:43] <linuxcrazy> this kubuntu is crappleware. ubuntu is ok though...
[06:43] <ferronica> amphi: i use clock type 12 hours
[06:43] <amphi> ferronica: I have no idea what you're talking about
[06:43] <Polygon> no its a wireless card
[06:43] <amphi> ferronica: makes no difference
[06:43] <bbrazil> Polygon: better ask someone else then
[06:43] <ferronica> amphi: show date
[06:43] <Polygon> well i just want to know if i have to do anything for ubuntu to see it before i do drivers and such
[06:43] <nbound> linuxcrazy, they are the same thing with a different desktop
[06:43] <ferronica> amphi: but USE UTC un checked
[06:43] <i3dmaster> Drac|Win, ok its for Mac.. sorry can't help much on that...
[06:43] <majd> bbrazil, ok it seems like i changed it successfuly
[06:44] <majd> but it won't login
[06:44] <majd> still
[06:44] <i3dmaster> Drac|Win, btw do you know how to add an entry into KDM startup menu?
[06:44] <vook> linuxcrazy, I'm willing to help
[06:44] <bbrazil> majd: remove the public = yes, and make sure security = user
[06:44] <Drac|Win> i3dmaster: "mount /dev/hdc7 /mnt/linux" didn't work either. Same error.
[06:44] <nbound> linuxcrazy, kubuntu = kde , ubuntu = gnome, xubuntu = xfce
[06:44] <amphi> ferronica: check use UTC
[06:44] <ferronica> amphi: what is USE UTC
[06:44] <ferronica> amphi: ok done
[06:44] <amphi> ferronica: I assume that's for the bios clock
[06:44] <amphi> ferronica: I don't know what you are doing
[06:44] <Drac|Win> i3dmaster: Not a clue. I'd recommend GDM if you're willing to switch session managers. It's not like you won't be able to use KDE anymore. Still, if you want KDM, use KDM.
[06:44] <odat> spikeb, i have this old mac with no OS on it at all but apparently its an old world mac and i can't boot from the ubuntu cd  any suggestions?
[06:45] <Flannel> amphi: going to have nothing but problems.  windows doesn't use UTC.  once he boots back into XP, itll be screwed up again.
[06:45] <ferronica> amphi: oh my god, as i checked it my ubuntu time get changed
[06:45] <tritium> ferronica: Universal Time Coordinate.  Are you dual-booting?
[06:45] <Drac|Win> odat: I know exactly what to do. Hold on!
[06:45] <majd> bbrazil, do i need to restart samba after i change it's config?
[06:45] <i3dmaster> Drac|Win, I meant 'mount -t fs_type dev mnt_point'. Did you actually put the -t before the device?
[06:45] <spikeb> odat: none, have never tried on an oldworld mac
[06:45] <amphi> Flannel: windows still can't do offsets from UTC?
[06:45] <Eleaf> hi
[06:45] <tritium> majd: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[06:45] <tritium> amphi: nope
[06:45] <amphi> Flannel: that's incredible
[06:45] <bbrazil> majd: my experiance is no, which is probably a bug ;)
[06:45] <Flannel> amphi: nope.  Heck, it changes system time for DST.
[06:45] <ferronica> amphi: what it dose
[06:45] <amphi> ferronica: you dual boot windows?
[06:45] <ferronica> amphi: again showing wrong time
[06:45] <varsendagger> vook, i'm sure you can do a digital guitar peddel
[06:46] <tritium> ferronica: if you're dual-booting, don't use UTC
[06:46] <ferronica> amphi: but both windows r in different HDD
[06:46] <amphi> ferronica: I hadn't realised that windows was still as broken as win95
[06:46] <vook> tritium, amphi, and that's another thing.  I stayed up three hours too late looking at that stupid windows clock.
[06:46] <Flannel> ferronica: they use the same system clock.
[06:46] <Drac|Win> i3dmaster: Of course. Additionally, for the /mnt/linux it was reiserfs, which doesn't need its type specified for this to work. Something's wrong with the shell, I think... I might reboot back into the install CD and try to mount them again from a new shell.
[06:46] <amphi> ferronica: makes no difference, windows will fsck it up
[06:46] <tritium> vook: heh
[06:47] <ferronica> amphi: So, uncheck UTC
[06:47] <bbrazil> Polygon: probably do a search on wiki.ubuntu.com for your card
[06:47] <amphi> ferronica: you must set your TZ to GMT/UTC and have the bios clock in local time - kill bill, that's what I say ;)
[06:47] <tritium> ferronica: I've already told you not to use UTC
[06:47] <amphi> ferronica: so, because of windows, you have to have incorrect TZ in linux
[06:47] <Apostle^> how do i set the gnome splash screen?
[06:48] <amphi> tritium: sorry for adding to the confusion, it never occurred to me that recent versions of windows were still so broken - I can hardly believe it still
[06:48] <ferronica> tritium: ok i unchecked UTC
[06:48] <Drac|Win> odat: You want to install Mac OS 9 (or lower if necessary) on it, then download BootX. Ignore what this guide I'll post says and drop the BootX App into "Control Panels" inside the SF and drop BootX Extension into "Extensions" (also in the SF), while dropping the kernel folder directly into the SF. Here's the guide: http://www.applefritter.com/node/8936
[06:48] <zcat[1] > amphi: vista too?
[06:48] <vook> it's not touching my laptop though, no way.  That was mearly an experiment
[06:48] <amphi> zcat[1] : no idea
[06:48] <Flannel> amphi: heh, I mentioned that at the very beginning.  You all were asking about batteries, I asked about windows ;)
[06:48] <zcat[1] > I would expect so..
[06:48] <tritium> amphi: not your fault :)
[06:49] <amphi> Flannel: I didn't mention batteries - I thought the bios was set to localtime and linux configured for the correct TZ
[06:49] <Arrick> how to change your password in freenode?
[06:49] <Flannel> Arrick: you cant, I don't believe.  That'd be a security risk.
[06:49] <Arrick> you should be able to
[06:49] <amphi> zcat[1] : somebody above said that, chillingly, vista retains drive letters
[06:50] <vook> it does
[06:50] <vook> unbelievable
[06:50] <amphi> Arrick: I imagine you can
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I though i read a review that said it dident retain drive letters....
[06:50] <zcat[1] > Of course it does.. vista has to remain backward compatable with DOS3.1
[06:50] <amphi> vook: ah, yes, it was you, sorry
[06:50] <Flannel> amphi: Vista is winXP, with a few system libraries rewritten.  It's hardly a change at all.
[06:50] <Apostle^> how do i set the gnome splash screen?
[06:50] <zcat[1] > Windows XP ME
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> but i dont plan on getting vista any time soon.
[06:51] <Apostle^> zcat[1] , don't mention ME... makes some people nervous
[06:51] <amphi> Dr_Willis: I don't think you're alone - MS doesn't seem to be planning to sell it soon
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> amphi,  :P
[06:51] <Drac|Win> Apostle^: There's two ways. There's a tool you can install, or you can just replace /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png with an image of your choice, but Ubuntu Artwork updates will replace this second method, so the first is generally a smart approach.
[06:51] <zcat[1] > rofl.. yeah.. nobody's getting Vista any time soon..
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> they are waiting for those Uber PhysEx cards - so the OS can have real time Physics effects!
[06:52] <Flannel> zcat[1] : the poor people who buy new computers are.
[06:52] <spikeb> last i read, garner wsa saying that vista will get delayed again
[06:52] <untung> hi
[06:52] <Apostle^> Drac|Win, getting the tool, thanks
[06:52] <zcat[1] > OK.. if soon == early 2007, perhaps..
[06:52] <penguin-1> hah, those add in physics cards are a joke
[06:52] <amphi> Dr_Willis: so when programs crash, their windows spiral down the screen, trailing smoke? ;)
[06:52] <Drac|Win> Did you notice how Vista's menus mimic the layout of GNOME, KDE, and the majority of Open Source WM menus? :P
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> penguin-1,  :P
[06:52] <untung> how to connect ubuntu to windows server?
[06:52] <spikeb> amphi lol
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> amphi,  yep!
[06:52] <Eleaf> a joke eh?
[06:52] <Drac|Win> Apostle^: You're welcome. :)
[06:52] <ferronica> amphi: ok i rebooted
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> untung,  you mean to share directories?
[06:53] <odat> Drac|Win, what about quick bootloader?
[06:53] <ferronica> amphi: BIOS time is incorrect
[06:53] <penguin-1> dr_willis :P right back atcha
[06:53] <penguin-1> dont be mad cuz im right :D
[06:53] <vook> when my vista computer thrashes just to load up firefox, something is very wrong.
[06:53] <zcat[1] > and the OEM version will be crippled. Neither of the two features MS didn't drop completely, only three programs at a time..
[06:53] <amphi> ferronica: don't listen to me, I had misjudged, yet again, the evil that comes from Redmond
[06:53] <ferronica> amphi: but this time ubuntu time is correct
[06:53] <Drac|Win> odat: You could try other bootloaders, but my method is a tried, true, and relatively easy method. It may look complicated in that guide, but it's easy. Check your PMs. I'll walk you through it if you need me to.
[06:53] <amphi> vook: what do you mean, 'just to load up firefox'?? ;)
[06:53] <ferronica> amphi: what???
[06:54] <amphi> ferronica: the Land of Redmond, where the shadows lie
[06:54] <sstchur> I recently install xubuntu (where I used to use ubuntu) b/c I like xfce so much.  However, getting my wireless card working in xubuntu turns out to be more difficult than it was in ubuntu.  Anyone have know how I can go about it in xubuntu?
[06:54] <vook> It just thrashes, brand new install.  Thrashing all the time.
[06:54] <ferronica> amphi: ok u mean u wont help me
[06:54] <IT_chick> Good evening everyone :)
[06:54] <zcat[1] > vook: you have the recommended 4GB of ram? :)
[06:54] <ferronica> amphi: ok as u wish
[06:54] <ferronica> So any other person who will help me??
[06:54] <odat> Drac|Win, yea but that method boot mac os first then linux right?
[06:55] <Drac|Win> odat: A quick trip to get BootX once you've got Mac OS 9 configured for internet is to go to google and simply type in "bootx" and click "I'm feeling lucky" - At the page it takes you to, follow the link to the developer's page and scroll down almost to the bottom. You'll want the latest version, obviously.
[06:55] <amphi> ferronica: ffs, stop blathering; because you have a damn fool legacy os installed, which is broken, your bios clock must be set to local time, linux must not use UTC, and your time zone in linux must be set to UTC/GMT
[06:55] <vook> zcat[1] , no, that I do not have.  But Linux never thrashes on 512mb @ 1100mhz
[06:55] <vook> :)
[06:55] <Drac|Win> odat: Hold on. Answer on its way.
[06:55] <Misnix> Arrick,  /msg nickserv set password <your_password>
[06:56] <Arrick> Misnix, got that, now how about chanserv?
[06:57] <amphi> ferronica: if you have your correct time zone set in linux, with the bios clock set to local time, your time zone offset from UTC will be applied twice, which will be incorrect
[06:57] <zcat[1] > amphi: no.. timezone should be where you are, otherwise ntpd will keep setting the localtime to UTC
[06:57] <Flannel> zcat[1] : no.  timezone should be GMT, +0.  So ubuntu and windows are in agreement.
[06:57] <Misnix> Arrick,  try /help in your server window
[06:57] <zcat[1] > timezone=where you are, bios time = local time, not UTC
[06:57] <Drac|Win> odat: It does boot Mac OS 9 for a second, but BootX pops up before it even loads OS 9 (if you put the extension in the proper folder like you're supposed to) and you can set your preferences in it to have it count down from 5 seconds and automatically switch violently to Linux mode, which is cool to watch. *POOF* -TEXT MODE- *POOF* -GREY TEXT- *POOF* -LINUX-
[06:57] <amphi> zcat[1] : can't use ntp I don't think, otherwise the clock will be set wrong when linux boots
[06:57] <zcat[1] > Flannel: absoutely not.
[06:58] <ferronica> amphi: so what is the conclusion
[06:58] <amphi> ferronica: I've told you twice already
[06:58] <ferronica> amphi: BIOS WILL SHOW ME INCORRECT
[06:58] <Drac|Win> odat: Please direct your attention to my PM, where I can help you further.
[06:58] <tritium> ferronica: stop the all caps please
[06:58] <Flannel> zcat[1] : yeah.  You need to pick an offset of 0, since your bios is set to localtime, and that is what is displayed in linux.
[06:58] <odat> Drac|Win, think system 7 will work?
[06:58] <zcat[1] > there's two settings; timezone which sould always be your actual timezone, and BIOS time which can be UTC (normal) or localtime (compatable with windows)
[06:59] <Flannel> oh. I wasnt aware of that.
[06:59] <amphi> ferronica: 1) set your bios clock to local time; 2) set your TZ to UTC/GMT
[06:59] <amphi> ferronica: 2) is in linux
[06:59] <Flannel> I just figured you would skip the ntp on ubuntu, and only update via windows.
[06:59] <zcat[1] > ferronica: amphi IS wrong.
[06:59] <amphi> ferronica: or don't dual boot with windows, so you don't have to break your linux system
[06:59] <amphi> zcat[1] : I am not ;)
[06:59] <zcat[1] > yes you are.
[07:00] <ferronica> amphi: i am really confused
[07:00] <sstchur> Anyone know where I can find wpa_gui?
[07:00] <spazzz> Evening folks.  I'm having trouble getting my new Belkin Wireless card working and was wondering if anyone had a moment to give me a hand
[07:00] <Flannel> ferronica: listen to zcat[1] .
[07:00] <amphi> ferronica: I am wrong, apparently
[07:00] <sstchur> is that part of wireless-tools or something?
[07:00] <spazzz> Ubuntu detects it fine and it can connect to my router but the dumb thing won't go anywhere after that no matter how I set it up
[07:00] <ferronica> zcat[1] : ok u tell
[07:01] <paradizelost> !xgl
[07:01] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:01] <amphi> zcat[1] : if his hw clock is in local time, and his TZ is not UTC, the system time will be wrong at boot, as the TZ offset is added to the hw clock time
[07:01] <zcat[1] > leave timezone as your actual timezone so that ntpd can make the adjustment; ntp servers provide the time as UTC.... there's also a setting in the linux config for BIOS time, which you set as 'local time'
[07:01] <ferronica> zcat[1] : If i set my BIOS time LOACL time my ubuntu showing me wrong time
[07:02] <spazzz> Anyone?
[07:02] <Drac|Win> I still can't get mount to work properly from the installation CD's console shell...
[07:02] <zcat[1] > right-click on the clock in ubuntu and select 'adjust time'
[07:03] <ferronica> zcat[1] : one thing when i boot my pc , there it show me synchronizing with linux.org ntp [07:03] <zcat[1] > oosp, ignore that.. I'll find the correct option for you
[07:03] <ferronica> zcat[1] : what is that failed error for??
[07:03] <Drac|Win> "mount dev/hdc7 mnt/linux" should work fine. I mkdir'd mnt and mnt/linux. Why won't it mount? It's reiserfs and such. Automatically recognized. I still get "Invalid argument"
[07:04] <ferronica> zcat[1] : synchronizing something like that, failed???
[07:04] <Coag> What might cause a harddrive that bios still sees to be virtually nonexistent to linux?
[07:04] <Coag> I see only this line in dmesg pertaining to it: [4294673.027000]      ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
[07:04] <Coag> it would be the hdb mentioned there
[07:04] <zcat[1] > damn, can't even find the option in the GUI.
[07:04] <ferronica> zcat[1] : Do u know??? what is that failed error for???
[07:05] <willie_> i need help changing my resolution please
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[07:05] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:05] <ferronica> zcat[1] : Is that above comment for me^^^^
[07:05] <willie_> Dr_Willis, thanks
[07:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> how can i get the build deps of gnome? `sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-desktop-environment didnt return anything usefull
[07:05] <InnerFIRE> is there a way i can use one of the litestep shells at litestep.net ?
[07:06] <zcat[1] > ferronica: hang on.. I know what setting I want you to change, but I'm having trouble finding where to change it under ubuntu..
[07:06] <pally> Does Ubuntu have bash-completion?
[07:06] <Coag> yes
[07:06] <ferronica> zcat[1] : ok, i am waiting for ur good reply
[07:07] <pally> Coag, really?
[07:07] <tritium> ferronica: s/ur/your
[07:07] <Coag> pally: of course
[07:07] <Drac|Win> No matter what I do with mount in ash (not bash), I get "Invalid argument" Can sombody make a suggestion? Maybe I should clean the CD...
[07:07] <alekz> how can i deny a user to access via ssh ?
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> zcat[1] , ferronica you after 'services' under system -> admin?
[07:07] <metatag> pally: hi
[07:07] <pally> Coag, thanks, however, I didn't find it in the reposi
[07:08] <pally> metatag hi
[07:08] <metatag> pally: where are u from?
[07:08] <Coag> pally: it's already there, use the tab key
[07:08] <Coag> anyone have any ideas on my hard disk issue?
[07:08] <mmmiiikkkeee> i was wondering is there a way to precache or preload specific programs when i boot up the computer in the background so that is i say click on app XYZ it the instantly appears with out haveing to load it from the hard drive and wait for it to configure?
[07:09] <pally> Coag, o. But it doesnot auto complete for 'man', or 'rmmod' cmd
[07:09] <pally> I remember my previous mandriva does
[07:09] <zcat[1] > Kamping_Kaiser: where's the option for bios time="UTC / Local"
[07:09] <metatag> Coag: wot issue?
[07:09] <Flannel> pally: hit tab twice, for a list of possibilities
[07:09] <Coag> pally: ma<TAB> rmm<tab> it's a shortcut not a cure all
[07:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> zcat[1] , try right clicking the clock  and 'ajust time and date' afaik
[07:10] <Coag> What might cause a harddrive that bios still sees to be virtually nonexistent to linux? -- I see only this line in dmesg pertaining to it: [4294673.027000]      ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio -- it would be the hdb mentioned there
[07:10] <pally> Coag, I mean, man comman<TAB>, it could also comple the 'command'
[07:10] <zcat[1] > Kamping_Kaiser: tried that.. there's only timezone. I got asked during the install for the option I want but now i can't find it.
[07:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> Coag, 'virtualy non existant'?
[07:11] <Coag> it doesn't exist in /dev
[07:11] <zcat[1] > system / set time is the same as the clock menu..
[07:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> zcat[1] , then try 'tz<tab>' afaik
[07:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> theres some timezone config stuff there
[07:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> the_Kane, ask a question, someone will tgry and help if they can
[07:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> zcat[1] , perhaps `sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzconfig` as well or tzselect
[07:12] <Kane666> well ive set up SpoonProxy and configured my ubuntu apps to connect through it... but sometimes (i dont know why..) i get a connection refused. And no one has even touched the windows machine (hosting spoonproxy)
[07:12] <metatag> Kamping_Kaiser: hi
[07:12] <Coag> pally: man pyd<tab><tab>
[07:12] <Coag> it works fine
[07:13] <Ams_NY> heyah
[07:13] <Ams_NY> 23 m Nyc
[07:13] <ferronica> zcat[1] : what happend
[07:13] <metatag> Ams_NY: heyah!
[07:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi metatag
[07:13] <zcat[1] > ferronica: sudo nano /etc/default/rcS    find the line that says UTC=no and change it to UTC=yes
[07:13] <Ams_NY> hey meta
[07:14] <metatag> Ams_NY : wazzup in NY?
[07:14] <zcat[1] > then set the timezone correctly, set the time correctly.. from then on your BIOS time should be == local time and will be interpreted right in both windows and linux
[07:14] <metatag> Kamping_Kaiser: whats a Kaiser?
[07:14] <Coag> What might cause a harddrive that bios still sees to be virtually nonexistent to linux (as in it doesn't exist in /dev anymore)? -- I see only this line in dmesg pertaining to it: [4294673.027000]      ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio -- it would be the hdb mentioned there
[07:14] <nomasteryoda> kudos to Ubuntu for keeping Atheros support
[07:14] <Ams_NY> chillin meta...
[07:14] <Ams_NY> where r u from
[07:14] <Ams_NY> ?
[07:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> metatag, Empiror
[07:14] <ferronica> # Set UTC=yes if your system clock is set to UTC (GMT), and UTC=no if not.
[07:14] <ferronica> UTC=yes
[07:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> Coag, stop spamming the question
[07:15] <metatag> Ams_NY : Mauritius
[07:15] <Coag> I'm not spamming it
[07:15] <zcat[1] > That's the one.. UTC=no will make it local time
[07:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> Coag, i asked for clarification, i didnt get it
[07:15] <Coag> I added the correct information that was needed
[07:15] <Drac|Win> I'm going crazy, here. mount simply won't work properly. Can't anyone help me?
[07:15] <Ams_NY> kool
[07:15] <Ams_NY> been there once...nice
[07:15] <metatag> Kamping_Kaiser: do emperors Kamp?
[07:15] <zcat[1] > sorry, I think I said YES before.. I meant NO
[07:15] <ferronica> zcat[1] : see it is already set to yes
[07:15] <zcat[1] > my head hurts
[07:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> metatag, at times
[07:15] <tritium> zcat[1] : there is a tzconfig command
[07:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol zcat[1] 
[07:16] <Kane666> can annyone help me with my proxy problem ?
[07:16] <zcat[1] > set it to NO.. your BIOS time is NOT UTC sorry for the confusion
[07:16] <tritium> zcat[1] : I've told her many times that it's not UTC
[07:16] <zcat[1] > tritium: BIOS time is a different setting from timezone
[07:17] <metatag> Ams_NY : really?
[07:17] <Ams_NY> yups...was a school trip
[07:17] <tritium> zcat[1] : yes, but it's still not uTC
[07:17] <zcat[1] > yeah..
[07:17] <tritium> metatag, Ams_NY: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:18] <metatag> tritium: hi
[07:18] <Drac|Win> Hmm... Coffee only works if you keep moving. :P
[07:18] <linuxcrazy> how do I make another account?
[07:18] <dli> linuxboy, adduser or useradd
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> linuxcrazy,  you mean add another user?
[07:18] <tritium> linuxcrazy: with either "sudo adduser", or the gnome tool
[07:18] <linuxcrazy> thx
[07:19] <tritium> System->Administration->Users and Groups
[07:19] <ferronica> zcat[1] : what i do???
[07:19] <metatag> tritium: hi
[07:20] <tritium> metatag: hi, do you have a queston?
[07:20] <tritium> question?
[07:20] <metatag> tritium: how are you?
[07:20] <linuxcrazy> ok I install the nvidia drivers
[07:20] <linuxcrazy> they WILL NOT SHOW UP!!!
[07:20] <ferronica> zcat[1] : which server i select to synchronize clock with internet server???
[07:20] <tritium> metatag: fine, thanks
[07:20] <eod_punk> will grub interfer with reinstalling windows?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> show up where linuxcrazy ?
[07:20] <zcat[1] > ferronica: sudo nano /etc/default/rcS    find the line that says UTC=yes and change it to UTC=no.. then rightclick on the clock, adjust date and time, set the timezone to your real timezone
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> !grub
[07:20] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:20] <metatag> tritium: do you know hhow to cook?
[07:21] <linuxcrazy> they won't work
[07:21] <tritium> metatag: that's offtopic
[07:21] <ferronica> ok
[07:21] <linuxcrazy> I install nvidia-settings
[07:21] <linuxcrazy> and it won't show up
[07:21] <metatag> tritium: how come?
[07:21] <linuxcrazy> *sigh*
[07:21] <linuxcrazy> idk
[07:21] <linuxcrazy> lol
[07:21] <tritium> metatag: this is an ubuntu support channel
[07:22] <metatag> tritium: oohh meaning we can't socialize?
[07:22] <Arrick> metatag, is a troll
[07:22] <tritium> metatag: #ubuntu-offtopic is there for that reason
[07:22] <metatag> hi Arrick
[07:22] <tritium> metatag: please stop
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[07:23] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:23] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = how to save it???
[07:23] <zcat[1] > when you shut down it should write the system time to bios
[07:23] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = now it saved to UTC=no
[07:23] <metatag> tritium: ok... do you any tool to easily configure dns zones?
[07:23] <Arrick> hi
[07:24] <zcat[1] > to save the file in nano? ctrl-O
[07:24] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = how to save that termainl window
[07:24] <metatag> Arrick : how are you?
[07:24] <tritium> metatag: nope
[07:24] <alekz> hi can someone help me? i just added a new user to my system, but he cant login via ftp why ??
[07:24] <Arrick> ctrl +O
[07:24] <Arrick> alekz, not in the ftp group?
[07:24] <dli> alekz, don't use ftp, use scp
[07:24] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = to close
[07:24] <DBO> alekz, what ftp server?
[07:24] <metatag> tritium: oh nevermind
[07:24] <zcat[1] > to close nano, ctrl-X
[07:24] <alekz> proftp server
[07:24] <alekz> Arrick, let me check that
[07:25] <DBO> alekz, check and make sure they are not listed in /etc/ftpusers
[07:25] <Arrick> whatup DBO
[07:25] <Arrick> night all
[07:25] <DBO> howdy Arrick, leaving?
[07:25] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = in Time and date setting should i check periodically synchronize
[07:25] <Arrick> yeah, gotta get some sleep, been up 52 hours straight between work and my server
[07:25] <metatag> Arrick : gud night
[07:26] <zcat[1] > ferronica: good idea, yes..
[07:26] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = sure???
[07:26] <Arrick> night metatag
[07:26] <alekz> DBO, he is not in the list
[07:26] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = and what server to select
[07:26] <metatag> Arrick : u are kind hearted
[07:26] <zcat[1] > whatever is the default..
[07:27] <DBO> alekz, did you make sure he is assigned a valid shell *note this does not mean an actual shell, just a valid one listed in /etc/shells
[07:27] <Kane666> well ive set up SpoonProxy and configured my ubuntu apps to connect through it... but sometimes (i dont know why..) i get a connection refused. And no one has even touched the windows machine (hosting spoonproxy)
[07:27] <metatag> hi dfgas
[07:27] <Arrick> I hate that
[07:27] <Kane666> any ideas?
[07:27] <metatag> Arrick : hate wat?
[07:27] <Arrick> read your pm
[07:27] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = nothing is selected
[07:27] <alekz> DBO, yes /bin/bash shell
[07:27] <DBO> alekz /etc/proftpd.conf -> pastebin
[07:27] <metatag> Arrick : kind hearted stuff?
[07:28] <dougie_> hi guys - is this the right place for a newbie question about USB?
[07:28] <dfgas> metatag, hello
[07:28] <alekz> DBO, a second pls
[07:28] <tritium> yes, dougie_
[07:28] <metatag> dfgas : wats up?
[07:28] <dbernar1> Hi. My system clock gets reset to 1904 every time I shut down my computer. What can be done for this not to happen?
[07:28] <varsendagger> I have qjackctl running and i also shound sorta working  i think, anyway   i get microphone playing on my speakers but when i hit the record button all i get is nothing, i don't know if i am doing it right
[07:28] <twidget> are there drivers for an HP scanjet 2400?
[07:28] <zcat[1] > ferronica: don't worry about it, just make sure the timezone is correct and synchronise once. It should come up with the correct time.
[07:28] <DBO> dbernar1, sounds like your CMOS battery is dead
[07:28] <zcat[1] > dbernar1: replace CMOS battery
[07:28] <Arrick> dbernar1, new cmos battery?
[07:29] <dbernar1> It is a new computer.
[07:29] <DBO> jinx
[07:29] <dougie_> cool - quick question - I have a 3M Microtouch monitor - going thru a HOWTO just now and it talks about setting the device in xorg.conf to configure
[07:29] <varsendagger> it's unanomous
[07:29] <dfgas> thinking of taking ubuntu off of here and just leaving windows and putting ubuntu on my p4 1.4gig with onbaord raid.
[07:29] <twidget> DBO, double jinxx
[07:29] <dougie_> my problem is I don't know what USB device to reference for the touchsreen
[07:29] <IT_chick> Hello everyone
[07:29] <metatag> tritium : spelling class?
[07:29] <DBO> dbernar1, it sounds like you still have a bad CMOS battery
[07:29] <zcat[1] > return computer, ask them to check if they put a CMOS battery in.
[07:29] <DBO> hello IT_chick
[07:29] <|Sivik|> !deb
[07:29] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[07:29] <IT_chick> Can someone recommend a good iso burning software?
[07:29] <dbernar1> DBO: how do I confirm this?
[07:29] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = and what server to select
[07:29] <tritium> metatag: for all your spelling errors (e.g., u, wat, etc.)
[07:29] <DBO> IT_chick, k3b
[07:29] <twidget> an IT chick?!?! Where?!?! :D
[07:30] <IT_chick> lol twidget
[07:30] <|Sivik|> but is she cute?
[07:30] <zcat[1] > p.ubuntu.org or whatever is the default..
[07:30] <blind> who cares?
[07:30] <tritium> IT_chick: nautilus works just fine
[07:30] <DBO> dbernar1, they are like 5 dollar oversized watch batteries, get a new one and see if it helps =P
[07:30] <IT_chick> lol
[07:30] <zcat[1] > ntp.ubuntu.org or whatever is the default..
[07:30] <dfgas> lmao
[07:30] <IT_chick> thank you tritium
[07:30] <zcat[1] > damn keyboard :)
[07:30] <|Sivik|> IT_chick: are you hot?
[07:30] <alekz> DBO, there u have: http://pastebin.com/714836
[07:30] <metatag> tritium : oh i am sorry, i think its the sms bug
[07:30] <dfgas> omg omg a chick is in here
[07:30] <dbernar1> DBO: I just bought this powerbook. Stupid computer.
[07:30] <IT_chick> I have a pic rofl if you guys want to see
[07:30] <twidget> all I know is: there's too damn few many IT chicks
[07:30] <dfgas> no way
[07:30] <linuxcrazy> wow!!
[07:30] <|Sivik|> IT_chick: yes, please
[07:30] <linuxcrazy> yes
[07:30] <tritium> metatag: yeah, it is ;)
[07:30] <dfgas> that can't happen
[07:30] <linuxcrazy> yes
[07:30] <DBO> dbernar1, well theres your problem right there...  you bought a powerbook *runs*
[07:31] <IT_chick> let me grab the linksies
[07:31] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = nothing is selected
[07:31] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = which one to select???
[07:31] <twidget> you know... grammar police
[07:31] <|Sivik|> !deb
[07:31] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[07:32] <dbernar1> twidget: we only know of thought police.
[07:32] <delmar> anyone here running the latest Azureus on ubuntu 5.10? im having issues .. it wont start downloading... tested the same torrents on a windows box and they scream... im wondering about the JRE/Java stuff that ubuntu 5.10 has by default but i dont wanna mess with that because I like OpenOffice ..unbroken :P.  Anyone have any suggestions or be able to help?
[07:32] <zcat[1] > I don't know.. don't worry about NTP, just set the time manually.
[07:32] <DBO> dbernar1, ok your ftp server needs to be secured, let me modify this file for you.  Also what usernames do you want to allow to log in?
[07:32] <dfgas> why do people make such a big deal when they find out the person is a chick
[07:32] <IT_chick> http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/safyra/STEPH5.jpg theres your link
[07:32] <twidget> so, anybody have any ideas about the hp scanjet 2400?
[07:33] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = ok let me boot again and let me check my BIOS time??
[07:33] <IT_chick> lol good question dfgas :)
[07:33] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = ok let me boot again and let me check my BIOS time
[07:33] <zcat[1] > dammit my mouse has gone now..
[07:33] <dbernar1> DBO: you mean someone else.
[07:33] <alekz> was that for me DBO ?
[07:33] <zcat[1] > ahh, it's back again :)
[07:33] <siriusnova> hey guys where does totem store its played file history
[07:33] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = what u think it should correct or what, if incorrect should i correct it to my local time????
[07:33] <zcat[1] > damn dodgy laptop!
[07:33] <CaptainMorgan> gaim able to send files?? damn thing is buggin
[07:33] <DBO> alekz, yes you
[07:33] <ferronica1> :(
[07:34] <zcat[1] > ferronica: it should be set to your local time like WIndows likes..
[07:34] <DBO> dbernar1, my mistake
[07:34] <alekz> DBO, ok allow users: alekz ciberboy ximp <---those 3 pls
[07:34] <IT_chick> The website for Nautilus says that is should already be installed
[07:34] <IT_chick> hmm
[07:34] <IT_chick> I will be back in just a moment going to try to find it.
[07:34] <tritium> IT_chick: you're using gnome?  right-click on the .iso file you want to burn
[07:34] <ferronica1> zcat[1] = ok let me boot my computer again, stay in channel
[07:34] <zcat[1] > ferronica; when you boot back to Linux, linux will also expect it to be local time now..
[07:34] <dfgas> IT_chick, there are some smart people out there that can use something else than ms and we havve to make a big deal when someone has chick or woamn in the name cause somepeople think its  the onlu one in here
[07:35] <tritium> IT_chick: nautilus is the file manager/graphical shell
[07:35] <dfgas> hmmm, i need an invoicing program for nix, any ideas?
[07:35] <IT_chick> Thanks I cant believe I didnt think of right clicking on it
[07:36] <Ohzie> Hey! :) My xserver closes when I hit shift+backspace, as well as ctrl+shift+backspace. I was wondering if there's anyway I can modify it so that shift+backspace doesn't do that anymore.
[07:36] <Kr0ntab> how ya folks doing?
[07:36] <wizzlefish> I'm having a problem with my laptop: Whenever I close the lid, if I lift it back up it usually gives me a password prompt (in GNOME), but recently it hasn't been working, and I just get a blank screen, which makes me reboot. The same happens in Fluxbox, Blackbox, or Enlightenment...
[07:36] <amphi> Ohzie: xmodmap perhaps - or use the DontZap option
[07:36] <DBO> alekz, http://pastebin.com/714845 That should get you going just right and a little more secure.  For better security move the whole deamon to a chroot
[07:37] <alekz> ok DBO let me try thanks =)
[07:37] <zcat[1] > wizzlefish: you're lucky. Hibernate has _never_ worked for me!!
[07:37] <DBO> alekz, dont forget to do "sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart" once you are done making the changes
[07:37] <alekz> yes DBO =)
[07:37] <IT_chick> alright a silly question i am sure
[07:37] <DBO> zcat[1] , is your swap file large enough and are you running nvidia drivers?
[07:37] <amphi> zcat[1] : really? swsusp works like a charm here
[07:37] <wizzlefish> zcat[1] : well, it probably won't ever work for me either, unless I can get this fixed...which I should be able to
[07:37] <zcat[1] > Umm.. no and yes :)
[07:38] <IT_chick> I dont really use IRC so can you tell me why some of the people who say something to me are in red?
[07:38] <amphi> zcat[1] : heh
[07:38] <ferronica1> zcat[1] : again same thing???
[07:38] <DBO> zcat[1] , well, now you know why =P
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> IT_chick,  like this?
[07:38] <tritium> IT_chick: nick highlighting
[07:38] <amphi> IT_chick: it highlights remarks addressed to you
[07:38] <dfgas> IT_chick, highlite for someone that says your nick
[07:38] <ferronica1> just rebooted my pc correct my BIOS time,
[07:38] <|Sivik|> IT_chick: does this do it?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> IT_chick,  red with Rage. :P lol.
[07:38] <ferronica1> zcat[1] : ubuntu showing me incorrect time
[07:38] <Kr0ntab> hehe I think she got the point
[07:39] <IT_chick> lol yes exactly
[07:39] <ferronica1> zcat[1] : what to do now
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> she? girls dont use computers! :p
[07:39] <zcat[1] > ferronica: what's the timezone set to?
[07:39] <IT_chick> next time i'll google it :P
[07:39] <wizzlefish> so does anyone know if there is a way to lock the screen when I close the lid?
[07:39] <IT_chick> pfft Dr. Willis
[07:39] <ferronica1> zcat[1] : ASIA
[07:39] <IT_chick> I'll ignore that you said that
[07:39] <DBO> wow, I havent seen a person get this much action in this channel since someone walked in with the nick "17Breezy-SummeR-girl"
[07:39] <IT_chick> O and if thats the case you better call someone and tell them to take my certs away
[07:39] <wizzlefish> hah! "17Breezy-SummeR-girl?!"
[07:39] <Ohzie> Dr_Willis: That's hot. Very hot. >=)
[07:40] <ferronica1> zcat[1] : here actual time is 11:10AM
[07:40] <zcat[1] > I give up.. just set the damn timezone to UTC. It's the wrong answer but at least it works :)
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Ohzie,  its amazing the # of mice she breaks.
[07:40] <ferronica1> zcat[1] : but ubuntu showing me 4:41 PM
[07:40] <amphi> wizzlefish: you could see if an acpi script could invoke xscreensaver/xlockmore perhaps
[07:40] <FR500> hello
[07:40] <wizzlefish> amphi - thanks, I'll check that out
[07:40] <alekz> DBO, look pls: proftpd - Fatal: AllowUser: directive not allowed in server config context on line 40 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'
[07:41] <ferronica1> zcat[1] : ok how to check yes in UTC
[07:41] <Drac|Win> Anyone? I really need to get mount to work, and I'd rather not burn a Live CD just to be able to mount things and such. I'm in an ASH console shell within the Ubuntu PPC installer CD.
[07:41] <amphi> wizzlefish: does suspend to ram not work there, or is that not what you want?
[07:41] <ferronica1> zcat[1] : what is the command
[07:41] <varsendagger> dfgas, were you asking about an invoicing program?
[07:41] <DBO> alekz, my mistake, I see the error, let me fix it
[07:41] <varsendagger> i don't know
[07:41] <alekz> thanks dbernar1
[07:41] <alekz> *thanks dbo
[07:41] <dfgas> varsendagger, yah, any good ones for nix?
[07:41] <ferronica1> zcat[1] : how to set my default UTC=yes
[07:41] <wizzlefish> no, I just want to be able to close the lid of my laptop, leaving it on, and open it up, with the monitor turning back on
[07:42] <wizzlefish> (amphi)
[07:42] <ferronica1> zcat[1] : what is that command
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> ASH? not bash?
[07:42] <tritium> ferronica1: stop repeating please
[07:42] <ferronica1> zcat[1] : please tell me then
[07:42] <tritium> patience
[07:42] <zcat[1] > ferronica1: leave that how it is.. right click on clock
[07:42] <DBO> alekz, http://pastebin.com/714852
[07:42] <dbernar1> alekz: the triangle of missnicking has come to a full circlee.
[07:42] <alekz> let me try dbo =)
[07:42] <alekz> lol
[07:43] <dbernar1> pentagon
[07:43] <DBO> dbernar1, you are the first nick twin I have had in a while =P
[07:43] <metatag> stop trolling
[07:43] <amphi> wizzlefish: does 'echo mem | sudo tee /sys/power/state' suspend to ram there?
[07:43] <varsendagger> dfgas, i don't know of any
[07:43] <amphi> wizzlefish: it does here, and I have that invoked by the acpi lid script
[07:43] <wizzlefish> amphi - well, I don't want to turn off the computer...
[07:43] <IT_chick> okay everyone
[07:43] <IT_chick> i'm off
[07:44] <IT_chick> lets see if this ISO will boot!
[07:44] <Kr0ntab> word...
[07:44] <amphi> wizzlefish: well, try that when you're ready
[07:44] <Kr0ntab> :-P
[07:44] <metatag> hi IT_chick
[07:44] <IT_chick> O_O didy ou just say word?
[07:44] <varsendagger> hey what does this mean:
[07:44] <IT_chick> Hello metatag
[07:44] <Kr0ntab> eheh
[07:44] <alekz> DBO, user ximp cant still log in =(
[07:44] <Kr0ntab> yup
[07:44] <varsendagger> lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[07:44] <DBO> alekz, can ximp log in locally?
[07:44] <wizzlefish> amphi - does suspending to ram turn the computer off? is it like Hibernate in Windows?
[07:44] <amphi> wizzlefish: if that doesn't work, try s/mem/standby
[07:44] <IT_chick> lol thanks you gave me a good laugh Kr0n
[07:44] <metatag> IT_chick : byebye
[07:44] <alekz> yes DBO
[07:44] <IT_chick> bye meta
[07:44] <amphi> wizzlefish: no, it's 'sleep'
[07:44] <DBO> alekz, can your other two users log in?
[07:45] <tritium> wizzlefish: not completely off.  It'll still drain some battery
[07:45] <alekz> yes DBO
[07:45] <|Sivik|> ok
[07:45] <wizzlefish> amphi - oh, alright...
[07:45] <|Sivik|> i installed crossover office via the dpkg and now i can't figure out how to run it
[07:45] <wizzlefish> where can I find this "acpi lid script?"
[07:45] <metatag> asl plz everyone
[07:45] <varsendagger> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[07:45] <Kr0ntab> omg stfu
[07:45] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[07:45] <tritium> metatag: NO!
[07:45] <amphi> wizzlefish: 'echo disk | sudo tee /sys/power/state' should suspend to disk assuming enough swap, swsusp support, and nothing going wrong ;)
[07:45] <DBO> alekz, put the output of "id ximp" and "id alekz" and "id ciberboy" to pastebin (all in one please)
[07:46] <metatag> tritium : no?
[07:46] <alekz> ok DBO a second pls
[07:46] <DBO> alekz, also make sure ximp has a password
[07:46] <tritium> metatag: I've already told you about offtopic questions like that
[07:46] <|Sivik|> after i install a program via dpkg, how do i run it?
[07:46] <amphi> wizzlefish: suspend to disk = hibernate; on power on, it'll boot as normal until swap on time, and then restore the state from disk
[07:46] <metatag> tritium : i guess so... kind of forgot
[07:46] <amphi> metatag: a/s/l/u surely ;)
[07:47] <alekz> DBO, http://pastebin.com/714854
[07:47] <varsendagger> what is u?
[07:47] <amphi> varsendagger: uptime
[07:47] <metatag> tritium : am sure that deep inside you are kind hearted and u like to appear to be mean
[07:47] <ASL-Puleease> haha
[07:47] <metatag> amphi : u?
[07:47] <tritium> metatag: u?
[07:47] <tritium> metatag: I'm asking you to stop the offtopic channel spam
[07:47] <amphi> metatag: 06:47:38 up 78 days
[07:47] <|Sivik|> !deb
[07:47] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[07:47] <DBO> alekz, does ximp have a password?
[07:48] <alekz> yes DBO
[07:48] <wizzlefish> amphi - ok, that worked, but it's not quite what I want...
[07:48] <metatag> tritium : ok sorry.. you like to sound firm and harsh
[07:48] <amphi> wizzlefish: in what way?
[07:48] <DBO> alekz, does ximp exist in /etc/ftpusers (I know, I asked before but I need you to make sure becuase by all rights he should be on...)
[07:49] <tritium> *sigh*
[07:49] <wizzlefish> amphi - I just want it to put a screensaver on when I close the lid, and resume when I open the lid
[07:49] <amphi> wizzlefish: why do you want a screensaver when the lid is closed??
[07:49] <wizzlefish> or the monitor turned off and back on
[07:49] <alekz> DBO, i checked again and he is not
[07:49] <metatag> tritium : i guess am not helping ubuntu and FOSS in anyway
[07:49] <tritium> wizzlefish: you'll like gnome-power-manager in dapper
[07:49] <DBO> alekz, do these users need local access?
[07:50] <alekz> DBO, just alekz
[07:50] <DBO> alekz, do you have a file called /etc/shells?
[07:50] <alekz> yes dbo
[07:51] <DBO> alekz, add a new shell to the end of that list by the name of /bin/ftponly
[07:51] <DBO> alekz, then go into /etc/passwd and change the shell of ximp and ciberboy to /bin/ftponly
[07:51] <metatag> tritium : I hope we can be friends.. then we'll sing the free software song together
[07:51] <wizzlefish> arg...now xchat isn't working...
[07:51] <himsky1> i have a new idea. one X window can use multi mouse. is it a good idea?
[07:51] <metatag> any have any idea of any tool one might use to configure dns?
[07:51] <alekz> donde DBO
[07:52] <alekz> *done dbo
[07:52] <DBO> metatag, BIND
[07:52] <metatag> DBO: BIND has gui /
[07:52] <metatag> ?
[07:52] <DBO> alekz, restart your ftp server and see if you can log in (the users cand log in locally anymore)
[07:52] <DBO> metatag, not that I know of, but it works pretty well for DNS
[07:52] <alekz> DBO, a second pls
[07:52] <himsky1> i have a new idea. one X window can use multi mouse. is it a good idea?
[07:53] <metatag> DBO: thanks
[07:53] <DBO> himsky1, it will work but they both would control the same cursor
[07:53] <wizzlefish> amphi - it worked, but I don't want the computer to shut down - just want it to go into a screensaver or something, and then ask for a password when I open it up
[07:54] <alekz> DBO, right, they cant login locally, ciberboy can login on ftp but ximp still cant =/
[07:54] <DBO> alekz, does ximps home directory exist?
[07:54] <alekz> yes dbo
[07:54] <tritium> wizzlefish: have you edited /etc/acpi/lid.sh?
[07:54] <wizzlefish> tritium: no, what do I do with it?
[07:55] <DBO> alekz are you use the CLI for your ftp login?  if so are you getting any errors?
[07:55] <siriusnova> you know whats kinda neat
[07:55] <Flannel> twidget: HP has released their printer/scanner stuff, so yeah.  it should work.
[07:55] <siriusnova> Dosbox runs faster on linux then windows
[07:55] <siriusnova> which is ironix
[07:55] <tritium> wizzlefish: you can configure what the lid button does
[07:55] <siriusnova> ironic
[07:55] <himsky1> My idea is control different program by multi mouse cursor.
[07:55] <siriusnova> i get no lag or problems at all in dosbox in ubuntu
[07:55] <siriusnova> in windows its slow
[07:55] <DBO> himsky1, go for it, linux is often a scratch your own itch proposal
[07:56] <amphi> wizzlefish: then you want the acpi script to invoke xlockmore or some such; you will probably have to a) use sudo to have it run as your user, and b) set the DISPLAY variable
[07:56] <alekz> im sure DBO pls check this: http://pastebin.com/714858
[07:56] <metatag> !compile
[07:56] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[07:56] <metatag> kewl! it works
[07:57] <DBO> alekz, try changing his password to something simple and try again
[07:57] <metatag> !fstab
[07:57] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[07:57] <wizzlefish> arg...won't let me open it
[07:58] <metatag> !fstab metatag
[07:58] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, metatag
[07:58] <DBO> !msg the bot
[07:58] <valehru> Is there any good image mounters in Linux'?
[07:58] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:58] <zcat[1] > !utc
[07:58] <ubotu> zcat[1] : Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:58] <valehru> ISO mounters that is
[07:58] <tritium> valehru: mount
[07:58] <amphi> heh
[07:58] <NoUse> !mountiso
[07:58] <ubotu> To mount an ISO image file, you can use "sudo mount -o loop <image-file> <mount-point>" from a shell (for example, "sudo mount -o loop Ubuntu.iso /mnt/loop", if /mnt/loop exists)
[07:58] <twidget> Flannel, sorry, busy in another channel. Thanks
[07:58] <valehru> ahh cool
[07:58] <valehru> thx
[07:59] <DBO> valehru, there was a guy in #ubuntu-offtopic that made a nice GUI frontend using python, I believe he calls it isomount.  Its really quite fantastic
[07:59] <valehru> really
[07:59] <wizzlefish> amphi - I don't know how to change it: in gedit or in terminal?
[07:59] <valehru> cool
[07:59] <himsky1> I hope to build a team to do this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?
[07:59] <metatag> ok bye all
[08:00] <wizzlefish> I don't know what to change or how to change it
[08:01] <alekz> DBO, ximp is now in, but is not loging to his ~ =/
[08:02] <DBO> alekz, so he can see the entire directory tree?
[08:02] <alekz> DBO, yes
[08:02] <DBO> alekz, check in /etc/passwd and make sure his home directory is /home/ximp
[08:02] <amphi> wizzlefish: the editor of your choice - you'll need magic root powers to edit a file under /etc/acpi - but perhaps gnome has an 'easier' way?
[08:02] <alekz> let me check dbernar1
[08:02] <alekz> let me check dbo
[08:02] <alekz> sorry again
[08:03] <alekz> DBO, is asigned as /home2/xompi and yes /etc/passwd shows that
[08:03] <himsky1> I hope to build a team to do this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?
[08:04] <DBO> alekz, does that directory exist?
[08:04] <alekz> yes dbo
[08:04] <DBO> alekz, well color me confused...
[08:04] <DBO> alekz, does he have write access to anything?
[08:04] <alekz> dbo im confused too :S
[08:05] <bewire> Hello, I try to figure out either to keep my amd64 bit install or reinstall with the 32 bit version. I will mostly use it as a desktop and maybe set up a webserver etc.
[08:05] <wizzlefish> that's exactly what's wrong...I shut the screen, and the monitor goes off like it is supposed to, but then when I open the lid, the monitor doesn't come back on - what's wrong?
[08:05] <wizzlefish> (and it forces me to shut down)
[08:05] <bewire> Have problems with sound and complains of lacking w32 codecs etc ...
[08:05] <amphi> wizzlefish: ah... try standby instead of mem, perhaps
[08:06] <wizzlefish> how? where?, amphi?
[08:06] <amphi> wizzlefish: acpi can be a PITA
[08:06] <wizzlefish> I don't know what that is
[08:06] <alekz> no DBO he hasnt write access
[08:07] <DBO> alekz, well I wouldnt really worry about it... but odd
[08:07] <amphi> wizzlefish: I assume there's a script under /etc/acpi - I find the sysfs interface is simple to use
[08:07] <himsky1> not one intersting this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?
[08:07] <amphi> wizzlefish: a pain in the donkey
[08:07] <alekz> DBO, let me remove the user and add it again u think that could help ?
[08:07] <DBO> couldnt hurt
[08:07] <alekz> a second
[08:07] <wizzlefish> how do I get to the sysfs interface?
[08:08] <MM2> I have 17 machines with wartywarthog. Can I upgrade them directly to BreezyBadger?
[08:08] <amphi> wizzlefish: cat /sys/power/state
[08:08] <Flannel> MM2: no.  you have to go through hoary.
[08:08] <amphi> wizzlefish: you could paste the output in here
[08:09] <wizzlefish> what's the output, and where do I find it, amphi? I'm sort of new to Linux, as you can tell...
[08:09] <amphi> wizzlefish: open a term, and do 'cat /sys/power/state'
[08:09] <wizzlefish> it just says "standby mem disk"
[08:09] <amphi> wizzlefish: is there no gnome configurator for this, that you might find easier?
[08:10] <wizzlefish> amphi - not that I can find, and right now I'm in Fluxbox...
[08:10] <tritium> wizzlefish: there will be in dappe
[08:11] <amphi> wizzlefish: you can do it manually; like I said before, 'echo standby | sudo tee /sys/power/state' should put it in standby mode (light sleep)
[08:11] <wizzlefish> ok, I'll try that...
[08:11] <MM2> what was that one liner to replace warty with hoary in sources.list?
[08:11] <amphi> wizzlefish: doing the same, but with 'mem' instead of 'standby' should put it in a heavier sleep; one of these two, at least, may not work
[08:12] <alekz> dbo can u check something logining into my ftp server ?
[08:12] <bewire> Hi, anyone with some good advice about amd64 bit istall vs 32bit install ?
[08:12] <amphi> wizzlefish: once you know which one behaves, you can make sure the script under /etc/acpi that is invoked when you close the lid is using that
[08:12] <DBO> alekz, once more with clarity
[08:12] <amphi> wizzlefish: or not have the script do anything, ignore the lid event
[08:13] <alekz> DBO, can u login into my ftp server as xompi and see what's happening? i just dont get it
[08:13] <wizzlefish> so closing the lid does nothing?...that would probably work...
[08:13] <DBO> alekz, sure, pm the username, password, and IP
[08:14] <amphi> wizzlefish: depends what you want it to do; I used to have mine hibernate on lid close
[08:14] <DBO> mmmm laaaag...
[08:14] <wizzlefish> ok, I just want xscreensaver to run, how would I modify lid.sh?
[08:14] <wizzlefish> (amphi)
[08:15] <DBO> alekz, its working perfectly, hes locked into his home directory (it looks like)
[08:16] <alekz> nice DBO so he cant surf on entire system right ?
[08:16] <DBO> alekz, there, I just uploaded a file to his home directory that sings 99 bottles of beer on the wall to you using festival (great for annoying people)
[08:16] <DBO> but I cant go anywhere but his home directory
[08:16] <amphi> wizzlefish: dunno offhand - 'DISPLAY=:0 xscreensaver-command -lock' or summat, perhaps; I have no idea whether that'll work, I've never tried to run an X prog from an acpi script ;)
[08:17] <wizzlefish> how would I make it do nothing?
[08:17] <ztonzy> hey and good morning, is there channel dedicated to dapper development, questions regarding installation ?
[08:17] <wizzlefish> just comment out the entire acpi script?
[08:17] <amphi> ztonzy: #ubuntu+1
[08:17] <tritium> !dapper
[08:17] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[08:17] <DBO> alekz, there reason his working directory shows as / is because we chrooted (change root) him into his home directory
[08:17] <ztonzy> amphi, ah, thanks
[08:17] <alekz> :o i see DBO
[08:17] <amphi> wizzlefish: I don't know what's in it
[08:18] <alekz> DBO, lot of thanks you rocks =D
[08:18] <amphi> wizzlefish: you could pastebin it
[08:18] <DBO> alekz, you are secure, he has ftp access =)  good luck
[08:18] <DBO> alekz, change that password
[08:18] <alekz> DBO, one more think can i ask u ?
[08:18] <alekz> i'll do dbo
[08:18] <DBO> sure
[08:18] <alekz> =)
[08:18] <alekz> how can i asing a limited quote ?
[08:18] <wizzlefish> amphi
[08:19] <DBO> alekz, you want to set a disk quota you mean, so they cant exceed a certain limit?
[08:19] <alekz> DBO, t's right
[08:20] <amphi> wizzlefish: hang on
[08:20] <DBO> alekz, thats a bit more invasive, but you can get started by looking here http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/admin-primer/s1-storage-quotas.html (I recognize thats for redhat, but it has the same basic info)
[08:20] <amphi> wizzlefish: I am experimenting ;)
[08:21] <alekz> i'll check it DBO lot of thanks =)
[08:21] <varsendagger> hey can anyone help me set up alsa to record with my microphone?
[08:22] <WhatTheDeuce> Hey.  I'm using Kubuntu, and I'm just wondering, is there any way I can switch Ctrl and Caps-Lock in KDE without making a .xmodmap file?
[08:22] <wizzlefish> http://pastebin.com/714869 <--there's my lid.sh file, amphi
[08:22] <Skwid> amphi: wow, i'm really screwed up now ... lol
[08:24] <mlalkaka> is there a defragmentation tool for ext3 filesystems? does ext3 need such a tool?
[08:24] <spikeb> there might be, and not really
[08:25] <zcat[1] > mlalkaka: yes, no..
[08:25] <monsterb> !defragmentation
[08:25] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, monsterb
[08:25] <monsterb> !defrag
[08:25] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, monsterb
[08:26] <mlalkaka> what if you want to resize an ext3 partition? wouldn't you need to defrag it first?
[08:26] <amphi> wizzlefish: there are problems calling an X prog from an acpi script
[08:26] <wizzlefish> amphi - so what should I do? Could I make the script not execute anything?
[08:27] <amphi> wizzlefish: that almost does what you want, looks like
[08:27] <wizzlefish> amphi: how would I do that?
[08:28] <brettzilla> i cannot figure this out for the life of me.
[08:28] <wizzlefish> amphi: just remove 'xscreensaver-command -deactivate'?
[08:28] <wizzlefish> and leave empty quotes?
[08:28] <zcat[1] > mlalkaka: sudo apt-get install defrag   .. and have fun.
[08:28] <paradizelost> nvidia geforce go 6800, opengl apps like glxgears are just a black box on Xgl
[08:28] <brettzilla> anyone good with compiz?
[08:29] <paradizelost> i've tried the other rooms but no one answer
[08:29] <alekz> thanks DBO =) cya later
[08:29] <amphi> wizzlefish: you could change deactivate to lock, perhaps
[08:29] <DBO> paradizelost, did you install nvidia drivers from nvidia's website?
[08:30] <paradizelost> DBO: used easyubuntu
[08:30] <paradizelost> i'll try from the site.
[08:30] <DBO> !nvidia
[08:30] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:30] <wizzlefish> ok, good night...I'll figure this out in the morning...
[08:30] <Drac|Win> Is the shell in the install CD part of the kernel, or separate?
[08:30] <Drac|Win> Is it part of the initrd image?
[08:30] <brettzilla> !reinstall compiz
[08:30] <ubotu> brettzilla: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:30] <brettzilla> :/
[08:31] <himsky1> I hope to build a team to do this MultiCursor GNU project, anyone join US?
[08:31] <Xenguy> Drac|Win: the shell is pretty core
[08:31] <DBO> shell does not run in kernel space
[08:31] <brettzilla> anyone else have issues with compiz & pink/colored shadows?
[08:32] <Drac|Win> Xenguy: So replacing the initrd and kernel will change the nature of the shell? I think I have something wrong with one of the two, because my shell is acting weird. Mount won't mount things... Gives "Invalid argument" to everything.
[08:32] <DBO> brettzilla, check out #ubuntu-xgl for that kind of help
[08:32] <brettzilla> thank you
[08:32] <Xenguy> Drac|Win: what DBO said - the shell should be part of a 'basic' install
[08:32] <Kyynara> is it possible to apt-get install from a dapper repositorie to breezy?
[08:32] <DBO> Drac|Win, what shell are you using?
[08:33] <zcat[1] > Kyynara: yes but not a good idea.
[08:33] <monsterb> DBO: dapper has lastest nvidia drivers
[08:33] <Kyynara> zcat[1] : if I just want to update one library
[08:33] <Drac|Win> DBO: The shell in the install CD itself. I'm messing with a Mac, and I have to use the ASH shell on the CD to do things. It's worked fine in the past... today, in fact. This time around it's not working right, and I don't know why. I followed the same procedure as always.
[08:33] <Kyynara> or do you recommend doing it manually?
[08:33] <DBO> monsterb, not afaik, they are using the 8178 series, current is 8756
[08:34] <spazzz> Hey... Can anyone help me out with a few network issues?  I need to set up WPA on my wireless card and configure IPTables through firestarted
[08:34] <zcat[1] > Kyynara: not sure really.
[08:34] <varsendagger> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[08:34] <varsendagger> alsa-init: playback open error: Device or resource busy
[08:34] <DBO> Drac|Win, so you are using a live CD?
[08:34] <varsendagger> help me please
[08:35] <DBO> !WPA
[08:35] <ubotu> Enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[08:35] <hanasaki> in bash.. how do i set a variable        export a.b = test
[08:35] <DBO> !firestarter
[08:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[08:35] <monsterb> DBO: check again, im using 8756
[08:35] <Drac|Win> DBO: No. That's downloading as we speak as a last resort. You see, I'm going into the shell by booting the install CD and hitting option+F2 (same as ctrl+alt+F2 on PCs) and hitting 'Enter' to enable the shell.
[08:35] <hastesaver> varsendagger, have you read !sound ?
[08:35] <DBO> monsterb, oh well, so why did you mention that in the frist place?  (I am using 8756 myself anyhow)
[08:36] <hanasaki> the "." i sneeded and is ajn issue :(
[08:36] <monsterb> DBO: sorry, thought u needed lastest drivers
[08:36] <DBO> Drac|Win, oh I see, Im not sure how that works
[08:36] <spazzz> DBO: Already have firestarter i'm just haveing some small issues configuring it... but thats not as important to me as getting WPA working at the moment
[08:36] <DBO> monsterb, nope, I was just explaing to a guy that needed 3D support how to get nvidia drivers
[08:37] <DBO> !tell spazzz about WPA
[08:37] <DBO> check out the link ubotu sent you
[08:37] <monsterb> DBO: ok
[08:37] <Drac|Win> DBO: Are you familiar with the ASH shell? It's like a simpler form of BASH. mount acts the same way, but right now it's not acting the way it's supposed to at all...
[08:38] <spazzz> DBO: I already did that as well.....  I'm not so stupid as to not have already looked at the WIKI and GOOGLE before comming here.
[08:38] <DBO> Drac|Win, I was more talking about the environement it is working in when you do that... I would suggest using a live CD instead
[08:38] <spazzz> DBO: No offence intended.
[08:38] <DBO> spazzz, none taken, but please understand that 90% of the people who do come here have not done either
[08:38] <varsendagger> !sound
[08:38] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:38] <dibblego> ~universe
[08:38] <dibblego> !universe
[08:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:38] <Drac|Win> DBO: Okay. I've done it with the install CD plenty of times, though. I'm going to try replacing the vmlinuz kernel and initrd image first.
[08:39] <spazzz> DBO: *smiles* I'm aware.  No I already have firestarter and wpasupplicant.  I'm not having luck getting either to work well and I was hoping for some more experianced guideance.
[08:39] <himsky1> I hope to build a team to do this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?
[08:39] <himsky1> I hope to build a team to do this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?
[08:39] <himsky1> I hope to build a team to do this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join?
[08:39] <DBO> !ops
[08:39] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:39] <spazzz> !ops
[08:40] <spazzz> Thank you.
[08:40] <spikeb> whew
[08:40] <rob> :)
[08:40] <rob> np
[08:40] <spazzz> Ok now where were we?
[08:40] <DBO> spazzz, well my experience is limited in the area (dont use wireless) but a common mistake made is that people dont remember to use the hex values for the wireless key...
[08:41] <DBO> other than that, Im fairly useless to you
[08:41] <monsterb> himsky1: link to RealMultiCursor?
[08:41] <DBO> he just came up with the idea monsterb, he wants to use two mice to control two cursors on one x windows
[08:41] <spazzz> DBO: well the WIKI was pretty straight forward.  It told me how to get the crypto key from my passphrase but it never said anything about HEX.
[08:42] <DBO> spazzz, Im pretty sure it wants the hex value (at least thats how it worked for the WEP)
[08:42] <spazzz> DBO: let me find what I was reading so you can see what I went by.
[08:42] <dibblego> if you're using WEP enter a 26 digit hex value
[08:42] <spazzz> DBO: WEP does want HEX values but I don't belive WPA does.
[08:42] <spazzz> and I don't want to use WEP because I live in an apartment complex and it's not as strong as I'd like
[08:42] <monsterb> DBO: oh
[08:43] <DBO> spazzz, yeah, no idea here, dont use wireless.  Ask your question again so newcommers to the area can get a fresh look =)
[08:43] <spazzz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[08:43] <spazzz> Thats the site I was going by.
[08:43] <dibblego> trying to install ssh from Synaptic and it keeps asking for my Dapper CD - can't it just download it?
[08:44] <DBO> dibblego, disable the entry in /etc/apt/sources.list that says cdrom (comment it out, probably first entry)
[08:44] <spazzz> I'm trying to enable WPA encryption on my new wireless card.  I also would like some help in configuring IPTABLES through Firestarter I keep knocking my web access out with it ;-)
[08:45] <EDIJUS> i have good idea... Ubuntu have nice logon sound, can i copy it to windows?
[08:45] <dibblego> now OpenSSH server is not available from Synaptic
[08:46] <DBO> dibblego, /etc/apt/sources.list -> pastebin
[08:47] <dibblego> one sec, I'm VNCed to the machine and it insists on 640x480
[08:48] <spazzz> Yay booted
[08:50] <odat> hello
[08:50] <orlando> hello
[08:50] <EDIJUS> hi
[08:50] <odat> can you upgrade from debian to ubuntu?
[08:51] <dibblego> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WfNtwy95.html
[08:51] <DBO> odat, debian -> ubuntu upgrades are not supported, but have been done in the past
[08:51] <DBO> the best option is to do a clean install
[08:51] <dibblego> that is sources.list
[08:52] <dibblego> wait, the machine has DNS problems - maybe that is it
[08:52] <ubuntuneil> dapper
[08:52] <ubuntuneil> !dapper
[08:52] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[08:52] <DBO> dibblego, yes, that would prevent updates from working
[08:52] <dibblego> where does one set DNS server(s)?
[08:52] <DBO> /etc/resolv.conf
[08:53] <ubuntuneil> how do i reconfigure screen resolution?
[08:54] <DBO> System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[08:54] <ubuntuneil> no, i mean in command line
[08:54] <DBO> sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:54] <tritium> ubuntuneil: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:55] <tritium> !fixres
[08:55] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:56] <dibblego> ok, DNS issue fixed - still no openssh server available through Synaptic
[08:57] <MM2> Can I dist-upgrade from hoary to dapper?
[08:57] <DBO> dibblego, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:57] <DBO> MM2, I believe you need to go hoary -> breezy -> dapper...
[08:58] <MM2> is there howto from hoary -> breezy?
[08:58] <DBO> !upgrade
[08:58] <MM2> I found nice one from warty -> hoary
[08:58] <zcat[1] > !reinstall
[08:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zcat[1] 
[08:58] <DBO> !tell MM2 about upgrade
[08:59] <MM2> DBO: ty
[09:00] <SpazzzII> Darnet
[09:00] <SpazzzII> Why won't this work
[09:00] <WillieDaPimp> !fixres
[09:00] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:01] <dli> how do I get boot device menu from a thinkpad?
[09:01] <rafal> hello - what is better way : -upgrade breezy to dapper or install new dapper from CD?
[09:01] <DBO> new instal is best if possible
[09:02] <rafal> ok thank you ;)
[09:02] <SpazzzII> *sighs* This is incredibly frustrating.
[09:03] <SpazzzII> Does anyone in the room know anything about getting WPA to work on a Wireless card?
[09:04] <firebird619> Recently my kernel was updated through Ubuntu
[09:04] <hintswen> hi, i just put a second hdd in my computer and it's not being detected
[09:04] <hintswen> do i need to partition it or something? and if so how?
[09:05] <pike__> hintswen: you need to create at least one partition and then format it
[09:05] <firebird619> Recently my kernel was updated through Ubuntu Software update and now the kernel is 2.6.12-9-386, but the linux headers are still 2.6.10-5. Should they be updated as well?
[09:05] <hintswen> asnd how do i do that(preferably without losing anything)
[09:05] <DBO> firebird619, yes, did you just upgrade from hoary?
[09:06] <firebird619> DBO, No, I have had Breezy since it's release but I get behind on updates because I only have dial-up and can only download a little at a time.
[09:06] <crimsun> firebird619: no, you'd have to manually upgrade them, since linux-headers is only a virtual package
[09:06] <EDIJUS>  send me Ubuntu logon sound.
[09:06] <DBO> crimsun, the linux-headers package depends on the latest linux headers I though
[09:06] <DBO> t
[09:06] <pike__> hintswen: i normally use cfdisk /dev/hda or hdb whatever then mkfs to format.  but ubuntu has a gui tool
[09:06] <cyne> hi all
[09:06] <cyne> when is the new ubuntu due out?
[09:07] <crimsun> DBO: linux-headers is virtual.
[09:07] <hintswen> pike__ can you tell me how to use it?
[09:07] <DBO> crimsun, I know, but I still thought it recieved updates so it would depend on the new headers...
[09:07] <SaLoMoN> hintswen, use gparted
[09:08] <crimsun> DBO: linux-headers-$(uname -r) is updated, yes, but note that there's no metapackage for it installed by default, therefore there's nothing to dist-upgrade automatically
[09:08] <hintswen> i need instructions lol. i suck atubuntu
[09:08] <pike__> hintswen: might be easier to use gparted. ive never used it i dont know if its installed by default
[09:08] <hintswen> well where can i find it?
[09:08] <hastesaver> cyne, June 1
[09:08] <firebird619> crimsun: I know I would have to update the headers through Synpatic, I just wanted to know if I should update them. Also, I am assuming I should remove the old headers after the update.
[09:08] <DBO> crimsun, ok, yes, it had not occured to me that linux-headers-`uname -r` is not in default install
[09:08] <cyne> hastesaver, ok
[09:09] <pike__> sudo apt-get install gparted or if its already installed type gparted in a terminal
[09:09] <firebird619> Also, I think the old linux-image files are in there from 2.6.10-5, should they also be removed.
[09:10] <crimsun> firebird619: you should install (you can't update because it's a completely new abi) it if you're planning to compile external kernel modules, yes. You don't have to uninstall the older ones if you don't wish, but I generally do to save space.
[09:10] <crimsun> firebird619: I would always keep at least one set of older working kernel(s)
[09:14] <ronicks> how do i format a hard disk
[09:14] <pike__> ronicks: what format?
[09:14] <jtmoney> so, i was considering trying out suse 10.1... it's been available on CD since 5/11, but not out on DVD until 5/18... sticking w/ ubuntu because of stupid shit like that
[09:14] <roryy> ronicks: first partition the disk, and then use mkfs to format the partition
[09:14] <firebird619> crimsun: Ok, I am asking this because when trying to install, I beileve it is a module of some sort, for my Digital Camera to get live video from it, it is saying there is no such file or directory as /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build. I assumed may this had to do with not having the 2.6.12-9-386 headers installed.
[09:14] <monsterb> !format
[09:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, monsterb
[09:15] <crimsun> firebird619: uname -r
[09:15] <firebird619> crimson: uname -r returns 2.6.12-9-386
[09:16] <WarOfAttrition> does anyone use fluxbox?
[09:17] <WarOfAttrition> it's locking everything up for me
[09:17] <ronicks> format using linux os
[09:17] <monsterb> ronicks: I like QTparted and Gparted to format.
[09:17] <vitry> I people; I need run a SB XFi under linux. Is it possible?
[09:17] <vitry> at this time
[09:17] <crimsun> vitry: no.
[09:18] <vitry> XD :(
[09:18] <vitry> and in the future?
[09:18] <crimsun> vitry: possibly.
[09:18] <vitry> :/
[09:18] <firebird619> crimsun: any idea what might be causing that message of No such file or directory?
[09:20] <vitry> ok thanks; I'm writing a letter to creative every week
[09:20] <crimsun> firebird619: you should probably be running 2.6.12-10.38
[09:20] <crimsun> firebird619: which means you need to reboot into it then install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:21] <WillieDaPimp> yea! i finally got my xorg.conf fixed, now i have a screen resolution that works
[09:21] <vitry> and they thell me that linus is not suported
[09:21] <DBO> firebird619, you need to "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname-r`" to get past that error message
[09:21] <glick> hey is there anyway i can run gnome 2.14 on dapper?
[09:21] <DBO> glick, dapper comes with gnome 2.14
[09:22] <Madpilot> glick, I thought Dapper had 2.14 by default
[09:22] <glick> oh, sweetness
[09:22] <firebird619> crimsun:  DBO: Ok, Thanks for the help.
[09:22] <crimsun> glick: / Madpilot: it does. 2.14.1, in fact
[09:22] <glick> whens dapper due for release?
[09:22] <crimsun> glick: 1 June
[09:22] <DBO> firebird619, oops, just read crimsuns message, yeah, he already said what I said... silly me
[09:22] <glick> nice
[09:22] <glick> cant wait
[09:24] <X3n0n> i upgraded from 5.10 to 6.04 and it downloaded 1GB
[09:24] <DBO> X3n0n, congrats?
[09:24] <X3n0n> i see that it downloaded the whole kde! with all the games!
[09:24] <X3n0n> it still installes
[09:24] <Madpilot> X3n0n, you must have had a lot of stuff installed
[09:25] <X3n0n> indeed
[09:25] <DBO> X3n0n, it downloads a newer version of almost everything on your system
[09:25] <X3n0n> so it downloads the dapper version of every prog that i have?
[09:25] <glick> im not a big kde fan
[09:25] <glick> im running it now
[09:25] <Madpilot> X3n0n, yes
[09:25] <DBO> X3n0n, almost every prog yes
[09:25] <glick> i dont get what all the hubub about kde is all about
[09:25] <X3n0n> that's why
[09:26] <glick> it mostly annoys me
[09:26] <X3n0n> i use gnome, but it is usefull to have kde installed
[09:26] <X3n0n> even if i rarely use it
[09:27] <zcat[1] > I used to run kde but I think I like gnome better now..
[09:27] <HunterZ> hi
[09:27] <DBO> KDE or GNOME, both are fine choices, lets leave it there =)
[09:27] <DBO> hi HunterZ
[09:27] <DBO> hi ompaul =)
[09:27] <JonathanKent> !restricted
[09:27] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:27] <X3n0n> it should have finished by now but i was sleeping and i couldn't configure some things that it asked me to
[09:27] <zcat[1] > waiting for compiz to settle down. was good last week but I dunno what happened, there's some weird stuff in the latest debs..
[09:27] <ompaul> morning
[09:28] <glick> for some reason kde makes my fans run at top speed all the time
[09:28] <ompaul> zcat[1] , that would be better in #ubuntu+1 perhaps :)
[09:28] <sdr> aie I speak french
[09:28] <DBO> !fr
[09:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:32] <X3n0n> and another upgrade question...the same procedure is used to upgrade from 6.04 to the stable one?
[09:32] <Charbel> hi
[09:32] <DBO> X3n0n, once you have dapper installed, it will "upgrade" to stable automatically
[09:32] <Charbel> I'm using a windows box, to try to get help configuring ubuntu (5.10) to connect to the internet
[09:33] <X3n0n> but is it going to take so much time again?
[09:33] <monsterb> Charbel: dialup or broadband ?
[09:33] <DBO> X3n0n, nope, there are about 100 updates per day, so if you stay on top of them, its not that bad.  When the final release comes they will not be suddenly dropping another large bomb of updates
[09:33] <Madpilot> X3n0n, it shouldn't - you'll get a steady stream of smaller upgrades, though, from what I understand
[09:33] <ompaul> X3n0n, you have your directions wrong
[09:34] <Charbel> monsterb: it's a broadband,
[09:34] <DBO> Charbel, do you have a router?
[09:34] <X3n0n> ompaul: what do you mean?
[09:34] <ompaul> X3n0n,  Dapper will become stable 6.06 and then you will only get security fixes
[09:35] <ompaul> X3n0n,  unless there are compelling technical reasons for a change to a package
[09:35] <Charbel> I have found on the forum an entry that explains exactly how to do in my case, the explanation is done for ubuntu 5.04, I have 5.10 and the connection doesn't work
[09:35] <ubuntu12> Hi all!
[09:35] <X3n0n> ompaul: yes but i talk about upgrading to 6.06
[09:35] <ubuntu12> How can I change the refresh rate in Ubuntu?
[09:35] <ompaul> X3n0n, from where?
[09:35] <Charbel> I have a sagem f@st 800 modem, my ISP is tiscalli UK
[09:35] <DBO> X3n0n, 6.04 = 6.06
[09:35] <X3n0n> ompaul: from 6.04
[09:35] <hastesaver> X3n0n, there is no 6.04
[09:35] <r0xoR> hi ubuntu12
[09:35] <ompaul> X3n0n, there was no 6.04
[09:36] <DBO> there is no spoon
[09:36] <DBO> (sorry... couldnt help it...)
[09:36] <X3n0n> What version do i have now :confused:
[09:36] <DBO> 6.06
[09:36] <ubuntu12> r0xoR, hi
[09:36] <ompaul> X3n0n, Dapper has existed since just after 5.10, the number indicates the release date
[09:36] <hastesaver> X3n0n, Dapper was supposed to be released 2006-04, but it got postponed to 2006-06. There's breezy (5.10) and then there's dapper (6.06)
[09:36] <X3n0n> now i got it!
[09:36] <ompaul> X3n0n, the number is year month
[09:36] <r0xoR> Ubugtu, applications menu
[09:37] <wahjava> Hi group
[09:37] <ubuntu12> r0xoR, how can ge the refresh rate in ubuntu? I am using it for the first time now.
[09:37] <X3n0n> i know that.....the only thing about dapper maybe...
[09:37] <r0xoR> ubuntu12, applications->system->preferences->screen resolution
[09:37] <ompaul> !resolution
[09:37] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:37] <wahjava> I'm unable to shutdown my desktop from Power Button (in my chassis) after installing PowerManager
[09:37] <DBO> r0xoR, you got a macro for that or something?
[09:37] <r0xoR> DBO, macro for what
[09:37] <wahjava> I've also installed gnome-power-manager, I'm on Breezy
[09:38] <monsterb> Charbel: are u using DHCP ?
[09:38] <Charbel> no ...
[09:38] <Charbel> adsl
[09:38] <ubuntu12> r0xoR, yes, but I have only 60 Hz there.
[09:38] <Charbel> I found the driver (in ubuntu packages)
[09:38] <Charbel> I installed it
[09:38] <ubuntu12> r0xoR, my eyes hurt.
[09:38] <DBO> Charbel, sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth0
[09:38] <Charbel> and in configuring it, I could even see my ISP in the list
[09:38] <wahjava> do I modify /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh or any other ways also possible
[09:39] <Charbel> I chose it
[09:39] <r0xoR> ubuntu12, then read the link ubotu just gave you
[09:39] <ompaul> ubuntu12, you needed to read that link that was on the screen a moment ago: it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:39] <Kane666> hey
[09:39] <ubuntu12> r0xoR, Also, i am on the live CD now.
[09:39] <wahjava> Kane666: hey
[09:39] <r0xoR> oh... lol... live CD, heheh... good luck with that
[09:40] <r0xoR> ubuntu12, just curious... why do you need to change the refresh rate (of all things) on the live cd (of all systems)
[09:40] <ubuntu12> ompaul, ok, I am looking.
[09:40] <Kane666> has annyone here had this error with Audacity?  Error Initializing Audio I/O Layer, You will not be able to play or record audio
[09:40] <X3n0n> it erased the truetype fonts that i had installed :(
[09:40] <wahjava> anything for me
[09:40] <zcat[1] > Kane666: yes. set esd to release the device faster, or just kill it.
[09:40] <ubuntu12> r0xoR, well, if ubuntu will support a higher resolution, I will install it, if not, then I have to try to configure it somehow ;)
[09:41] <r0xoR> wahjava, your guess is as good as mine
[09:41] <Kane666> zcat[1]  : what does that mea?
[09:41] <Kane666> *mean?
[09:41] <wahjava> r0bby: means
[09:41] <DBO> ubuntu12, it does support a higher resolution, I run at 1600x1200 at 85Hz
[09:41] <wahjava> sorry for r0xor
[09:41] <ompaul> ubuntu12, you have been given how to do it
[09:41] <hastesaver> Kane666, type "killall esd" before starting audacity.
[09:41] <r0xoR> ubuntu12, naw, it's not ubuntu that supports the resolution, it's your kernel driver and your x driver plus your xorg.conf which "supports" your particular resolution
[09:41] <glick> hey what email clients do you guys (and gals) like to use?
[09:41] <wahjava> r0xoR: what do u mean ??
[09:42] <r0xoR> wahjava, uhhh meaning... what exactly did you do that caused your power button to stop working?
[09:42] <ubuntu12> DBO, Um... I a a beginner in liunx and it shows :)
[09:42] <DBO> glick, evolution is a mighty fine client for GNOME users
[09:42] <zcat[1] > Kane666: alt-F2 and type 'killall esd' in the box, then run audacity
[09:42] <r0xoR> !newbie
[09:42] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, r0xoR
[09:42] <r0xoR> heheh
[09:42] <wahjava> r0xoR: I've installed PowerManager
[09:42] <r0xoR> wahjava, is that something i can get via synaptic?
[09:43] <glick> there was something about evolution that bugged me, i cant remimber what it was not
[09:43] <glick> now
[09:43] <glick> how is thunderbird?
[09:43] <DBO> ubuntu12, thats ok, in general though, fixing things on the LiveCD is a rather pointless thing to do...  if you want to fix your refresh rate you should do a full install
[09:43] <r0xoR> wahjava, ACPI isn't the most stable of systems... there are quirks with different mobo's and the kernel code is experimental in places
[09:43] <WarOfAttrition> thunderbird is simpler
[09:43] <DBO> glick, thunderbird isnt bad, but evolution provides a lot more PIM style stuff
[09:44] <r0xoR> ubuntu12, yes, that's what i was saying... there's no point in "learning" how to configure the live CD... learn how to configure a "default" install
[09:44] <hastesaver> glick, it's fine. As good as any. It doesn't have the extra frills (calendar, ...) by default, IIRC
[09:44] <r0xoR> thunderbird == good for me
[09:44] <ubuntu12> DBO, I will sure do, but I want to be certain my hardware is supported.
[09:44] <wahjava> r0xoR: Previously I used to shutdown my comp from Power button
[09:44] <r0xoR> wahjava, so you would do what exactly?
[09:44] <wahjava> r0xoR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13892 is /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh
[09:44] <DBO> ubuntu12, what video card do you have?
[09:44] <r0xoR> wahjava, press the button once? press the button and hold?
[09:44] <glick> i wish mozilla would make the uptimate pim
[09:45] <wahjava> r0xoR: I don't want to do forcefully shutdown
[09:45] <WillieDaPimp> if i have the nvidia-common-kernel installed do i also need the nvidia-glx installed?
[09:45] <zcat[1] > one of the live cd's (I think it was puppy) lets you write a multisession cD. The first session is the live CD and you can save settings and user files back to subsequent sessions. But generally live CD's are not designed for stuff like that..
[09:45] <glick> werent they working on firebird or something?
[09:45] <r0xoR> i wish someone would make a decent calandar app that doesn't try to masquerade as a presentation program and email client all in one
[09:45] <X3n0n> sorry for being so annoying, but i want t oask something else......: will i be able to have 3d acceleration with an ATI X1300 (that's why i upgraded)
[09:45] <ThinKing> Does the root account have a password in the live CD?
[09:45] <r0xoR> X3n0n, errr, if the drivers support your card then yes
[09:45] <wahjava> r0xoR: Holding button means OS is not participating in Shutdown
[09:45] <ompaul> !tell X3n0n about ati
[09:45] <r0xoR> !frglx
[09:45] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, r0xoR
[09:46] <wahjava> r0xoR: so what I think is PowerManager is not properly configured.
[09:46] <r0xoR> wahjava, oh so you want the OS to register the powerbutton press and then do a regular "halt" type shutdown
[09:46] <wahjava> r0xoR: yup
[09:47] <wahjava> r0xoR: that's I've also pasted my powerbtn.sh script at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13892
[09:47] <r0xoR> wahjava, well i'd say you're probably right... and then i'd say "why haven't you read the documentation about configuring yet?"
[09:47] <spazzz> EUREKA.. I got WPA working!
[09:47] <Kane666> hastesaver: it worked! thanks. But could you please explain to me why i have to do this? (for future reference)
[09:47] <WillieDaPimp> so does anyone know, or should i just install it and see if my system breaks
[09:47] <r0xoR> whutz wpa?
[09:47] <hav0k>  i want to change whatever setting controls the audio for firefox so embedded stuff will play... cause right now, they wont play if i have anything else up that has sound
[09:47] <r0xoR> WillieDaPimp, afaik you need glx too
[09:47] <hav0k> does anyone know how to change that setting... i guess the audio driver or whatever
[09:47] <wahjava> r0xoR: there is no doc in /usr/share/doc and also no manpage for PowerManager
[09:48] <r0xoR> WillieDaPimp, but personally i just build the modules from the installer on the nvidia site
[09:48] <WillieDaPimp> r0xoR, i thought so, but i couldn't remember thanks
[09:48] <hastesaver> Kane666, because esd (the so-called Enlightened Sound Daemon) has captured your audio, and audacity cannot use it until it is freed up
[09:48] <spazzz> r0xoR: It's an encryption scheme for wireless networks that isn't easily supported in Ubuntu and is something of a pain to set up
[09:48] <r0xoR> hmm, k
[09:48] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[09:48] <Kane666> hastesaver: thanks for the info ;) but audacity isn't recording anything :S there is no 'spikes'
[09:48] <WillieDaPimp> r0xoR, is there any difference between the two different approaches??
[09:49] <wahjava> r0xoR: sorry has manpage for power-manager, just listed package contents
[09:49] <spazzz> r0xoR: I've been trying to get it up all night and finaly got it working
[09:49] <r0xoR> WillieDaPimp, much difference
[09:49] <hav0k>  i want to change whatever setting controls the audio for firefox so embedded stuff will play... cause right now, they wont play if i have anything else up that has sound
[09:49] <r0xoR> WillieDaPimp, my approach requires recompiling a kernel
[09:49] <spazzz> Ok now if someone would be so kind as to help me set up firestarter I'm good to go
[09:49] <hastesaver> Kane666, you can also find the settings for esd and ask it to release the device sooner (it's probably set to some ridiculously high amount like 60 seconds)
[09:50] <r0xoR> WillieDaPimp, but my approach also leaves you free to compile any other outside kernel modules... like the manufacturer supplied network/ide/gfx/chipset drivers instead of the ones built into the linux kernel
[09:50] <hastesaver> Kane666, oh, not recording anything? Are you sure the input volume is not set to 0? :)
[09:50] <WillieDaPimp> r0xoR, i just gave up using gentoo, after usign it for years, to try a version of linux that has less configuration, speed is good but to time consuming
[09:50] <r0xoR> WillieDaPimp, no i fully understand... i've been installing linux for years
[09:50] <wahjava> r0xoR: after starting gnome-power-manager manually I'm now getting some shutdown option in "Power Preferences" dialog box
[09:50] <r0xoR> WillieDaPimp, just had to do a dual boot... tried gentoo... after 8 hours of solid crying i tried ubuntu
[09:51] <Kane666> hastesaver: ive increased the mic volume in volume control.. i dont know if thats all i have to change or not ?
[09:51] <spazzz> Ok is there an easy way to set up IPTABLES with FIRESTARTER so that everything besides all my services are blocked out?  I tried using the whitelist option but I ended up just killing my net connection
[09:51] <r0xoR> WillieDaPimp, i don't think i'll ever use gentoo again lol
[09:51] <hastesaver> Kane666, I once spent a day trying to figure out why my audacity wasn't working, and it turned out input volume was set to 0
[09:51] <hastesaver> Kane666, look in Audacity
[09:51] <ubuntu12> Does Ubuntu have KDE installed ?
[09:51] <ompaul> spazzz, firestarter is just a front end for iptables
[09:51] <r0xoR> spazzz, maybe you should look into manually configuring iptables... basic firewalling like you're talking about is not hard
[09:51] <WillieDaPimp> r0xoR, i've been using linux since 94 or 95 and i've never had as much trouble with any other distro than with gentoo, but it is speedy
[09:52] <ompaul> ubuntu12, you can install it with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or get the kubuntu CD
[09:52] <r0xoR> spazzz, allow from all; deny from ..., ...
[09:52] <OculusAquilae> ubuntu12: no, but kubuntu
[09:52] <fabio> salve
[09:52] <glick> hey whatever happened of mozilla firebird?
[09:52] <r0xoR> spazzz, er wait... lol deny from all; allow from 21, 80, 110, 23
[09:52] <r0xoR> etc etc
[09:52] <OculusAquilae> ubuntu12: for kubuntu see #kubuntu and kubuntu.org
[09:52] <r0xoR> so just allow from each of your services manually
[09:52] <hastesaver> ubuntu12, not by default, but you can do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" (or get the kubuntu-desktop package via Synaptic)... About a hundred MB of download, though, IIRC
[09:52] <Kane666> hastesaver: lol yeh that fixed it ;)
[09:52] <spazzz> r0xoR ok but do I do that for everyone or just my IP address?
[09:53] <zcat[1] > Gotta love gentoo... http://www.funroll-loops.org/
[09:53] <r0xoR> errrr...
[09:53] <r0xoR> that's *your* iptables config you're talking about
[09:53] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:53] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[09:53] <r0xoR> which i'm assuming is residing on your machine, which i'm assuming you use as a desktop?
[09:53] <ubuntu12> After unpacking 426MB of additional disk space will be used. Whoa!
[09:53] <hav0k> does anyone know how to change the audio for firefox to esd?
[09:53] <zcat[1] > sorry..
[09:53] <r0xoR> spazzz, making firewall settings user specific is not something i know about
[09:53] <DBO> glick firebird became firefox
[09:54] <Kane666> hastesaver: do you know how to adjust the esd settings?
[09:54] <ompaul> zcat[1] , np, just stopping it before the line etc - ricer ricer ricer etc
[09:54] <spazzz> roxor: Sounds about right.  This is connected to my home network.
[09:54] <WillieDaPimp> r0xoR, you know anything about getting SB Audigy Live! to work, i thought it uses the emu***  driver but ubuntu installed CA0106 drivers, and i get no sound
[09:54] <glick> i thought firebird was a calendering application
[09:54] <DBO> glick, thats sunbird
[09:54] <glick> yeah!
[09:54] <bigfoot1> how do i find my a:drive (floppy) in nautilus?
[09:54] <glick> whatever happened to sunbird?
[09:54] <DBO> its still around
[09:55] <bigfoot1> it's the first time i'm using it. 8-)
[09:55] <hastesaver> Kane666, not offhand (I'm not using Gnome or esd); look in the menu at the top (Preferences -> sound server or something like that)
[09:55] <DBO> bigfoot1, its in /mnt/floppy
[09:55] <glick> looks like its dead
[09:55] <DBO> bigfoot1, its in /media/floppy
[09:55] <bigfoot1> DBO: thanks
[09:55] <bigfoot1> dbo thanks again
[09:55] <hav0k> does anyone know how to change the audio for firefox to esd?
[09:55] <DBO> (ignore that I was totally wrong the first time please)
[09:55] <bigfoot1> i was savinvg a file into a:/foo.txt. 8-)
[09:55] <high-freq> i have a pcmcia wireless card..but lspci -v  aint listing it
[09:56] <high-freq> how do i "eanble" or whatever to see it
[09:56] <DBO> glick, afaik it is still under slow, but steady development
[09:56] <Kane666> hastesaver: nah i couldn't find it.. i'll just google it. thanks anyway
[09:56] <bigfoot1> DBO: is it /floppy or /floppy0?
[09:56] <DBO> bigfoot1, well, windows converts gotta start somewhere =P
[09:56] <DBO> bigfoot1, either or, they both point to the same thing
[09:56] <spazzz> r0xoR: I think thats right.
[09:56] <Kane666> hastesaver: whats it called... adjusting esd what?
[09:57] <ompaul>  /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0
[09:57] <bigfoot1> DBO: error: can't open file to write
[09:57] <WillieDaPimp> does anyone know how to get SB Audigy Live! working??
[09:57] <bigfoot1> 8-(
[09:57] <bigfoot1> dbo oh no
[09:57] <DBO> ompaul, yeah, but by default there is a symlink in /media/floppy that points to /media/floppy0
[09:57] <zcat[1] > "ThunderFox is the lightweight mailclient for Windows, Linux and all other plattforms which support fltk and ruby."  -- oh crap!
[09:57] <DBO> bigfoot1, what are you trying to do?
[09:57] <bigfoot1> i'm working on a text file
[09:57] <bigfoot1> i want to save it to my floppy
[09:57] <bigfoot1> that's all
[09:58] <ompaul> DBO, so let them mount /media/floppy (ohh how 16th century :))
[09:58] <spazzz> Ugh... I really just need someone to walk me through this
[09:58] <bigfoot1> maybe it's because i haven't formatted the floppy yet?
[09:58] <DBO> bigfoot1, save it to your home directory for now
[09:58] <bigfoot1> i have no idea
[09:58] <bigfoot1> DBO: ok
[09:58] <spazzz> There are two many options and they arn't very discriptive
[09:58] <bigfoot1> dbo done
[09:58] <bigfoot1> now what
[09:58] <bigfoot1> copy?
[09:59] <zcat[1] > people still use floppies? (you might also consider using mtools)
[09:59] <ompaul> bigfoot1, click on System Administration Disks and click on the floppy icon
[09:59] <ompaul> bigfoot1, AND make sure you umount  it before removing the disk
[09:59] <ompaul> bigfoot1, OR use mtools
[09:59] <DBO> bigfoot1, what ompaul said
[10:00] <bigfoot1> i clicked on the floppy icon, ompaul
[10:00] <bigfoot1> but how do i save onto the floppy?
[10:00] <ompaul> zcat[1] , did not notice that until now - you win
[10:01] <ompaul> bigfoot1, drag and drop once its mounted
[10:01] <McNutella> morning.. Can I set up network between desktop and laptop usig bluetooth.. Desktop is Ubuntu, laptop is XP
[10:01] <bigfoot1> ompaul: how do i mount
[10:01] <bigfoot1> ?
[10:01] <bigfoot1> ompaul: how do i know if it's already mounted?
[10:01] <ompaul> bigfoot1, just a second I need to make a call -
[10:01] <bigfoot1> ompaul: when i click on the floppy icon, it sitll gives me the info from the previous icon ((hard disk)).
[10:02] <DBO> bigfoot1, to check if its mounted open a terminal and type "mount | grep floppy"
[10:02] <bigfoot1> nbo. ok. but no printout
[10:02] <bigfoot1> i guess it's not mounted
[10:02] <DBO> bigfoot1, then its not mounted
[10:02] <bigfoot1> how do i mount?
[10:02] <DBO> mount -a
[10:02] <DBO> erm
[10:02] <ompaul> bigfoot1, mount /media/floppy
[10:02] <Kane666> hastesaver: do you know anything about proxy servers?
[10:03] <bigfoot1> ompaul: ok
[10:03] <bigfoot1> done
[10:03] <ompaul> bigfoot1, cp Desktop/foo /media/floppy/.
[10:03] <bigfoot1> ompaul: ok
[10:03] <ompaul> bigfoot1, where foo is the file
[10:03] <djrandom> morning all
[10:03] <djrandom> ive managed to mess up my install of open swan via apt-get... in that i didnt complete the configuration wizard. now my system thinks its not installed so i cant remove and start again, but i also cant reinstall over the top of it to fix it. cant anyone help me please?
[10:03] <denis_> bonjour
[10:03] <DBO> ompaul, we are going to have to stop interupting each other like this, people will say its love =P
[10:03] <ompaul> DBO, it will be all yours in a moment - I have to split
[10:03] <zcat[1] > djrandom: dpkg-reconfigure foo
[10:03] <DBO> !fr
[10:03] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:04] <DBO> ompaul, I was just kidding, no need to run away
[10:04] <djrandom> tom@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure openswan
[10:04] <djrandom> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: openswan is broken or not fully installed
[10:04] <djrandom> tom@ubuntu:~$
[10:04] <bigfoot1> ompaul: how can i check that the copy command was successful?
[10:04] <ompaul> DBO, ohh but there it, 'tis breakfast time
[10:04] <DBO> djrandom, sudo apt-get -f install
[10:04] <djrandom> DBO: whats the -f switch for?force?
[10:05] <ompaul> bigfoot1, ls -al /media/floppy
[10:05] <DBO> bigfoot1, ls /media/floppy
[10:05] <zcat[1] > fix I think..
[10:05] <DBO> djrandom, fix
[10:05] <bigfoot1> ompaul: ok
[10:05] <ompaul> DBO,  or md5sum :)
[10:05] <bigfoot1> i see it, dbo
[10:05] <bigfoot1> thanks
[10:05] <djrandom> DBO: zcat[1]  :) ill try
[10:05] <bigfoot1> now time to unmount, yes?
[10:05] <DUMAiSO> my wine is not showing correct fonts like in this picture: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/i232, what i need to do?
[10:05] <bigfoot1> how do i unmount?
[10:05] <zcat[1] > bigfoot1: umount..
[10:05] <DBO> bigfoot1, umount /media/floppy
[10:05] <eggzeck> DUMAiSO, do you have msttcorefonts?
[10:05] <djrandom> DBO: zcat[1]  still erroring
[10:06] <DBO> bigfoot1, umount /media/floppy0 (sorry for typo)
[10:06] <djrandom> you wanna look at my pastebin?
[10:06] <DBO> yes
[10:06] <ompaul> bigfoot1, sudo umount /media/floppy :: as long as you don't have any program in the /media/floppy directory
[10:06] <bigfoot1> oh, i have to do mount and umount by sudo
[10:06] <DUMAiSO> eggzeck, I am installing it right now
[10:06] <Kane666> i have a question regarding a proxy server, windows and ubuntu ;)
[10:06] <eggzeck> DUMAiSO, good. Because that could be one of the causes
[10:06] <bigfoot1> ompaul: what do you mean "as long as i have no programs ..."
[10:06] <DUMAiSO> eggzeck, thanks
[10:06] <bigfoot1> you mean if I'm not working on any files in the floppy disk?
[10:06] <DBO> bigfoot1, if you have any files open on the floppy disk, it will not unmount
[10:06] <bigfoot1> or somethnig like that?
[10:06] <bigfoot1> i see
[10:07] <zcat[1] > bigfoot1: another option, just sudo apt-get intall mtools.. then you can mcopy Desktop/foo A:   without having to mount and unmount..
[10:07] <bigfoot1> zcat[1] : thanks
[10:07] <bigfoot1> i'm doing that now
[10:07] <DBO> zcat[1] , yes but mounting an unmounting is a great way to start learning linux =)
[10:07] <zcat[1] > bigfoot1: the same package also has mdir, mrename, and I think even mformat A:
[10:07] <Kane666> ive installed a proxy server on my windows machine to share dial-up. Ubuntu is configured to connect through it, and it works fine,, (im using it now) but every now and then, i get a connection refused error and i either have to close the proxy server and re-open it or get a new static ip... any ideas?
[10:08] <bigfoot1> zcat[1] : DBO, i'd rather do things via GUI (nautilus)... like in windows. don't you?
[10:08] <bigfoot1> ok, maybe you don't. 8-)
[10:08] <eggzeck> DUMAiSO, don't forget to run 'sudo fc-cache -v'. And restart the wine program.
[10:08] <ompaul> bigfoot1, like you don't have nautilus or a terminal with that directory open
[10:08] <DBO> bigfoot1, not really, CLI is much faster once you know it
[10:08] <zcat[1] > DBO: true.. but we've made him do it once..
[10:08] <DUMAiSO> eggzeck, ok
[10:08] <eggzeck> DUMAiSO, after install
[10:08] <djrandom> DBO: zcat[1]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13893
[10:08] <WillieDaPimp> what kernel source files do i need to install after a fresh install, so i can change my sound card drivers and stuff
[10:08] <bigfoot1> ompaul: DBO thanks
[10:08] <bigfoot1> now i gotta go and print out that document
[10:08] <bigfoot1> thanks for your help
[10:08] <bigfoot1> sayonara
[10:09] <ompaul> lp foo but thats no use
[10:09] <enyc> meep
[10:09] <DBO> Kane666, that sounds more like an issue with your proxy
[10:09] <glick> i should prolly shave again some day
[10:09] <Kane666> DBO: nah its not, thats what i thougt... so i downloaded a new proxy and gave it a try and the same thing happens
[10:09] <DBO> glick, gurus dont shave
[10:10] <glick> heh
[10:10] <ompaul> DBO, that is so wrong, and I own three sets of sandles
[10:10] <ompaul> DBO, which is excessive
[10:10] <zcat[1] > I made the mistake of shaving last week. I've forgotten almost half of everything I knew about linux already...
[10:10] <DBO> ompaul, do your jeans have holes in the knees too?
[10:11] <ompaul> DBO, what are jeans chinos shorts and suits
[10:11] <glick> i just have no time to shave
[10:11] <DBO> ompaul, and at some point in your life you have sported a ponytail?
[10:11] <zcat[1] > ompaul: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[10:11] <zcat[1] > :-)
[10:12] <ompaul> na I never tied it up and in deference to zcat[1]  I am out of here :)
[10:12] <DBO> =P
[10:13] <glick> im looking forward to the official ubuntu book release
[10:13] <glick> in a couple of months
[10:13] <zcat[1] > book?
[10:13] <glick> yeah
[10:13] <DBO> ill wait for the movie
[10:13] <zcat[1] > I was planning to download the odt
[10:13] <djrandom> so, no idea on openswan?
[10:14] <DBO> djrandom, try "sudo apt-get remove openswan"
[10:14] <djrandom> done than
[10:14] <zcat[1] > djrandom: apt-get install --reinstall --force perhaps?
[10:14] <zcat[1] > looks like the package is broken..
[10:14] <djrandom> it removes, even though its "not installed"
[10:14] <djrandom> but on reinstall it borks
[10:14] <WarOfAttrition> maybe flushing the apt cache?
[10:14] <djrandom> its only done this cause i quit the configure script
[10:14] <zcat[1] > remove --purge and flush the apt-cache
[10:14] <djrandom> ok ill go try
[10:15] <McNutella> morning.. Can I set up network between desktop and laptop usig bluetooth.. Desktop is Ubuntu, laptop is XP
[10:15] <DUMAiSO> eggzeck, still bugged fonts in wine
[10:16] <WarOfAttrition> flush sounds funny, ok going have a nice day folks
[10:16] <djrandom> with sudo apt-get install -reinstall its still broken
[10:16] <djrandom> same error
[10:16] <djrandom> have any of you seen the error in my pastebin?
[10:16] <zcat[1] > I hate it when a package gets screwed up. There's never an easy way to sort it out.
[10:16] <djrandom> zcat[1] : this is the first one ive come across
[10:17] <zcat[1] > I've managed to mess up a few. Usually purging it is enough to fix the problem.
[10:17] <djrandom> please can u run me though the command to purge?
[10:17] <zcat[1] > apt-get remove --purge
[10:18] <DBO> djrandom,  "sudo apt-get remove --purge <package"
[10:18] <Kane666> can somone please help me set up aMule to work through a proxy.. ? ive set the options and when i try to update the server list.. it fails
[10:18] <djrandom> sorry, i should have seen that :P
[10:18] <djrandom> sweeeeeeeeeeet :D
[10:19] <djrandom> DBO, zcat[1] : welcome over for beers and BBQ anytime :)
[10:19] <djrandom> i shall remember that command in future :P
[10:19] <DBO> thats a dangerous offer... I like beer almost as much as I like BBQ
[10:19] <r0xoR> hmmm, interesting anti-gentoo link
[10:19] <r0xoR> i didn't find it very funny, though i'm not a fan of Gentoo
[10:20] <djrandom> DBO: but much better together?
[10:20] <DBO> i dont mix business and pleasure
[10:20] <zcat[1] > r0xoR: it's funnier if you actually know people like that...
[10:20] <youngcoder> can someone tell me where to find an updated list of repositories?
[10:20] <DBO> !repos
[10:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:21] <DUMAiSO> !wine
[10:21] <crazy_penguin> !easysource
[10:21] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:21] <djrandom> hehe
[10:23] <djrandom> i feel teh coffee machine coming on
[10:24] <ta3uk> hi
[10:24] <DBO> hey
[10:24] <ta3uk> i'm russian ))
[10:24] <ta3uk> can u help me?
[10:24] <zcat[1] > !ask
[10:24] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[10:25] <ta3uk> !ask )
[10:25] <ubotu> ta3uk: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:25] <DBO> !ru
[10:25] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[10:25] <ivoks> lol
[10:25] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[10:25] <ubotu> thanks zcat[1]  :)
[10:26] <Ohzie> Is there anything like Norton Ghost, but for linux?
[10:26] <zcat[1] > dd
[10:26] <DBO> its called tar
[10:26] <ivoks> dd
[10:26] <DBO> or dd =P
[10:26] <zcat[1] > partimage perhaps..
[10:26] <ivoks> Ohzie: and don't search for it on google
[10:26] <ivoks> Ohzie: you allready have it installed :)
[10:27] <Ohzie> No, dd is too small of a keyword to search for on google
[10:27] <Ohzie> I'm looking at the man file for it
[10:27] <ta3uk> how to use the ICQ with proxy?
[10:27] <Ohzie> Okay, lemme rephrase my question...
[10:27] <Kane666> ta3uk: are you using gaim?
[10:27] <ta3uk> yes
[10:28] <r0xoR> zcat[1] , meh, i just think that misguided or not some of them have one ok point which is that (however misguided the notion is) a custom compiled system will be faster... is 12 days worth the trade off? not for me no :P but for some crazy freaks i guess it is
[10:28] <Kane666> in accounts, there should be something like 'more options' just add your settings
[10:28] <zcat[1] > !info partimage
[10:28] <ubotu> partimage: (backup partitions into a compressed image file), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.6.4-11ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 247 kB, Installed size: 876 kB
[10:28] <Ohzie> Is there an easily automated way to compress my hard drive into an image that I can put back onto it really easilly, in the same fashion as Norton: Ghost?
[10:28] <Ohzie> partimage, eh?
[10:28] <zcat[1] > Ohzie: what ubotu said..
[10:29] <r0xoR> zcat[1] , i also don't know a lot about the arguments (on either side) presented for USE and "binary inconsistencies" and other random stuff
[10:29] <ivoks> Ohzie: dd if=/dev/hda of=/tmp/my_image looks easy enough to me :)
[10:29] <r0xoR> i know what USE flags are... i too have attempted a Gentoo install before
[10:30] <zcat[1] > ivoks: yeah, if you don't mind backing up all the freespace too, and having a backup you can only restore to an identical drive..
[10:30] <MistaED> ohzie: partimage rocks, although it doesn't support as many filesystems as norton ghost
[10:30] <ivoks> zcat[1] : right :)
[10:30] <Ohzie> ivoks: But can I boot into a CD that will do everything for me automatically? :-P Cause I'm big on that.
[10:31] <zcat[1] > personally I'd reccomend tar to backup the filesystem and grub-install to make it bootable after you recover it. That way you can restore to different drives, different partitioning, or whatever
[10:32] <zcat[1] > automated restore tools I don't know.. nothing I really know of. I kinda count on not having to restore very often.
[10:32] <Ohzie> It totally bothers me that broken drivers in xorg are debilitating. It's totally a usability thing, that if the driver doesn't work...try defaul VGA drivers. MacOS uses X11, and if the drivers don't work...it drops into default VGA drivers. Apple has been using X11 for a not-too-long-time in its current incarnation. The linux community has been using it for YEARS and nobody's ever done it.
[10:32] <Ohzie> Little usability things like that are the ONLY thing stopping linux from being UBER DESKTOP AWESOME
[10:32] <MistaED> ohzie: there is a live cd which does exactly that i'm pretty sure, although really it just uses partimage
[10:32] <Ohzie> I mean, it's already UBER DESKTOP AWESOME for people that have any idea what they're doing.
[10:32] <ivoks> wel...
[10:33] <ivoks> Ohzie: i would say bad habbits of windows users
[10:33] <r0xoR> heheh
[10:33] <Ohzie> Like, I'm not an expert, but I can get around pretty easily. I know what I'm doing. As for bad habit of windows users? Tell that to the people that don't use linux on the desktop because windows is easier. :)
[10:33] <MistaED> ohzie: well you can run norton ghost for linux partitions
[10:33] <zcat[1] > Little things like reconfiguring X automatically when the user drops a new graphics card in might be a good idea..
[10:33] <r0xoR> Ohzie, ar u gonna just complain about *nix marketshare?
[10:33] <ivoks> Ohzie: like "ubuntu sucks; doesn't come with firewall" or "i need to backup my partition since i have to format it every month"
[10:33] <Ohzie> r0xoR: No. :( I'm just trying to make a point.
[10:34] <Ohzie> Ohgod please don't flame me, I actually like this channel and the people here, and Ubuntu, a WHOLE LOT. I'm just trying to make a poiint.
[10:34] <Ohzie> point**
[10:34] <ivoks> :)
[10:34] <TechSalvager> ivoks, WTF?
[10:34] <MistaED> ohzie: apple runs x11 in rootless mode, meaning it doesn't handle the video/input directly, aqua does that
[10:34] <Ohzie> The people here have been more helpful than any other distro's help channel ever. Everyone here is really really nice, and AWESOME.
[10:34] <ivoks> TechSalvager: yes?
[10:34] <TechSalvager> oh wait nm #ubuntu no wonder
[10:34] <r0xoR> Ohzie, well if you feel you need to make a point, there's #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[10:35] <TechSalvager> ivoks, <ivoks> Ohzie: like "ubuntu sucks; doesn't come with firewall" or "i need to backup my partition since i have to format it every month"
[10:35] <TechSalvager> yeah
[10:35] <ivoks> TechSalvager: bad habbits of old windows users :)
[10:35] <Ohzie> r0xoR: Duly noted.
[10:35] <Ohzie> And the reason I have to format is because it's not my computer. =P The owner wants to put osx86 on it. =(
[10:35] <Ohzie> Ohwell. Thanks anyways! :D
[10:36] <ivoks> Ohzie: that would be a mistake
[10:36] <ivoks> Ohzie: OSX is slowest OS for x86
[10:36] <TechSalvager> ivoks in that case forgiven
[10:36] <ivoks> and ugliest
[10:36] <zcat[1] > Put KDE on it and give it a nice OSX theme. They'll never know.
[10:36] <r0xoR> heh.. osx is pretty slow from my experience
[10:36] <GazzaK> has anyone here gor a windows machine running at the mo?
[10:36] <TechSalvager> me
[10:36] <Ohzie> ivoks: That's why I use linux instead of osx86
[10:36] <ketsugi> Not I
[10:37] <Ohzie> GazzaK: Over there I do *points* what do you need?
[10:37] <TechSalvager> GazzaK, what do you need help with?
[10:37] <r0xoR> GazzaK, running as in turned on?
[10:37] <glick> i havent run windows in 3+ years
[10:37] <GazzaK> I need to get a firmware update for my router, but it comes as a compressed exe file from BT
[10:37] <GazzaK> damn BT
[10:37] <keNzi> anyone have a xorg.conf for FX 5500 ?
[10:37] <zcat[1] > i have wine
[10:37] <Ohzie> keNzi: FX-5650 go
[10:38] <GazzaK> they have the latest firmware here http://www.voyager.bt.com/2100/firmware_update.htm
[10:38] <ivoks> keNzi: install nvidia-glx
[10:38] <keNzi> k
[10:38] <TechSalvager> GazzaK, try renmaing it .zip
[10:38] <GazzaK> but it is downloadable as a .exe file only
[10:38] <ivoks> GazzaK: well, beagle is Beagle.exe too :)
[10:39] <zcat[1] > sometimes those archives are just zip with a selfextractor and unzip can still handle them directly..
[10:39] <GazzaK> TechSalvager, wooo, that worked
[10:39] <GazzaK> thanks folks
[10:39] <GazzaK> :)
[10:39] <TechSalvager> GazzaK, yeah anything windows you need help with just ask
[10:39] <GazzaK> never knew that about renaming the exe to a zip
[10:40] <ketsugi> no need to rename them
[10:40] <ketsugi> just unzip whatever.exe
[10:40] <TechSalvager> yep
[10:40] <GazzaK> I'm good at windows, i'm a IT support bloke, but just new to ubuntu :)
[10:40] <zcat[1] > you got lucky.. if it's been a self-extracting RAR that wouldn't work :)
[10:40] <GazzaK> and never knew that exe>zip trick, as i've never needed to
[10:41] <ketsugi> unrar
[10:41] <ketsugi> ;p
[10:41] <zcat[1] > ketsugi: not on the stock install though
[10:41] <froud> What package installs growisofs
[10:42] <froud> OK found it
[10:43] <McNutella> whats the ISO burner within ubuntu, and how do I toast an ISO to CD ?
[10:44] <Kane666> can someone please go to this site and tell me which one i need to work on ubuntu? http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Valknut-Download-2346.html
[10:44] <zcat[1] > McNutella: right-click on the file and pick 'burn to CD'
[10:44] <McNutella> zcat[1] : cheers for that, simple is always best :)
[10:45] <McNutella> and there it goes
[10:45] <Skeletonix> Hello .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1011340#post1011340
[10:46] <Daskies> How do I recieve scans?
[10:46] <zcat[1] > scans?
[10:46] <Daskies> Yes, when I scan a document who do I save it?
[10:46] <Daskies> *how do I
[10:46] <zcat[1] > xsane perhaps..
[10:48] <Daskies> zcat[1] , So open xsane, then scan?
[10:48] <Daskies> scan = hit the button on my printer
[10:48] <Daskies> Oh
[10:49] <Daskies> There seems to be a button on xsane its self
[10:49] <Daskies> Yes, I get a 'device busy' error
[10:50] <[Spooky] > if a port is "filtred" its not open for anyone ?
[10:50] <[Spooky] > * everyone
[10:54] <valehru> is there a way I can get firestarter firewall started in gnome without me being asked for the sudo password each time?
[10:54] <[Spooky] > valehru: it starts as a daemon ?
[10:54] <luke> anyone know what 'usplash_fifo' is?
[10:55] <rob> it already starts, only need to run the gui if you want to change something
[10:55] <valehru> well I want the gui to be in the taskbar each time i boot up
[10:55] <valehru> ahh ok...
[10:55] <valehru> gotcha
[10:55] <rob> I seem to remember there was a step by step guide to doing that somewhere
[10:55] <valehru> nah its cool
[10:55] <valehru> didnt realise it started on boot as a daemon
[10:56] <valehru> thx
[10:56] <rob> valehru, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26483.html
[10:57] <rob> probably not all that secure though
[11:01] <linux_galore> valehru: your not actually starting the firewall when you start firestarter, its just a front end. also you dont actually need it to be running once you have done the setup because firestarter runs a small program during startup the defines your firewall rules, you only need the GUI if you want to change anything
[11:01] <valehru> yeah I got that
[11:01] <valehru> thx linux_galore
[11:02] <linux_galore> valehru: once you have setup iptables with firestarter you really dont need to run it again
[11:03] <valehru> yup
[11:03] <Akuma_> can anyone help with wireless usb device drivers? i need to know if a driver is available for mine before i can install ubuntu
[11:03] <linux_galore> valehru: if you watch your startup you will see the init process start a script called firestarter that initiates your firewall rules
[11:04] <linux_galore> valehru: so basivally ignore it
[11:04] <Akuma_> i could only find http://prism54.org/newdrivers.html, but its ambiguous whether they're driver is ready or still in developement
[11:04] <valehru> have done...tis ignored
[11:04] <AlmtyBob> is there a way in gnome to save the positions of my windows?  zAngband opens up 8 terms and every time I start the app it reset them to their default messy positions
[11:05] <linux_galore> AlmtyBob: right click on the top of the window
[11:06] <blasph> what's an easy way to convert avi to mpeg on Ubuntu?
[11:06] <AlmtyBob> only min/max/on top/move/resize/cose/always visbile/move to workspace
[11:07] <Clint-> see ya all, going back to BSD
[11:07] <Clint-> 8-)
[11:07] <hastesaver> blasph, you can use mencoder, but it probably doesn't qualify as easy.
[11:07] <linux_galore> AlmtyBob: looks like they removed the config option
[11:07] <blasph> hastesaver: how not-easy is it?
[11:07] <crazy_penguin> blashph: did you try avidemux or transcode?
[11:07] <WillieDaPimp> ubuntu is getting better and better with each version, unfortunetly it is not good enough for me, i'm going to bsd or back to gentoo
[11:07] <linux_galore> AlmtyBob: welcome to the down side of dumbing down a desktop
[11:08] <linux_galore> WillieDaPimp: try RR4 Linux  its Gentoo made easy http://www.lxnaydesign.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=27
[11:09] <JonBoon> why would my uptime say there are 2 users when i just rebooted?
[11:09] <linux_galore> JonBoon: root processes
[11:09] <JonBoon> is that normal?
[11:09] <linux_galore> yes
[11:09] <DBO> JonBoon, xserver = one user, terminal = one user
[11:09] <JonBoon> ok cool
[11:09] <Clint-> hee
[11:10] <JonBoon> i do use apache
[11:10] <JonBoon> i thought maybe that changed something
[11:10] <blasph> crazy_penguin: didn't try either, didn't try anything. are those tools easy to get and to use?
[11:10] <crazy_penguin> to get yes
[11:11] <crazy_penguin> to use i don't know exactly
[11:11] <hastesaver> blasph, are you comfortable with using the command line?
[11:11] <crazy_penguin> i did use them very much
[11:11] <blasph> hastesaver: I have nothing against it.
[11:11] <crazy_penguin> but both of them have gui for easier usage
[11:11] <hastesaver> crazy_penguin, just tell him the command to do the conversion if you remember it; how easy it is will be self-evident :)
[11:12] <hastesaver> crazy_penguin, (actually, I'd like to know too, and I'm too lazy to read the docs right now...)
[11:12] <Mwafrica> i got a problem with Mozilla Firefox Browser.... Can anyone help with the sudo comand to install it.....
[11:12] <crazy_penguin> i don't nknow it because i used the gui.:)
[11:12] <crazy_penguin> sorry
[11:13] <hastesaver> blasph, Read the mencoder section of this page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/video-playback.html
[11:13] <cyne> so what new great features are coming in with dapper drake?
[11:13] <ivoks> cyne: countless :)
[11:13] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: just download the binary tarball unpack it in your /home/username/Documents directory  then just creat a link from your taskbar or desktop to /home/username/Documents/firefox/firefox
[11:13] <spikeb> well, the most visable one is ORANGE
[11:13] <Mwafrica> Anyone to recommend me another browser?
[11:13] <spikeb> bright, blinding orange
[11:13] <hastesaver> blasph, (or the transcode section for that matter)
[11:13] <spikeb> screaming at your eyes
[11:14] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: you dont have to install firefox to use it
[11:14] <hastesaver> crazy_penguin, GUIs would also be great, what are the respective GUIs called?
[11:14] <Mwafrica> .......its kind og corrupted...
[11:14] <blasph> hastesaver: which do you recommend?
[11:14] <crazy_penguin> for transcode if i remmeber right is gtranscode
[11:14] <crazy_penguin> and avidemux has it by default in the package
[11:14] <crazy_penguin> one sec i will look
[11:15] <spikeb> Hobbsee: slept yet?
[11:15] <Mwafrica> Linux_galore: Im new tto ubuntu.,..... i was triying to install P2P program and now.... it doesnt display text?
[11:15] <Hobbsee> spikeb: no, i'ts only 7.15pm
[11:15] <linux_galore> kde has a few apps for translating video file formats
[11:15] <spikeb> Hobbsee: ahh okay
[11:15] <blasph> bleh, come to think of it I really don't have the energy for command line programs right now. is there a reasonably simple gui solution?
[11:15] <spikeb> Hobbsee: it's been nighttime here, now four in the morning
[11:15] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: what doesnt display text
[11:15] <Mwafrica> Linux_galore: I need another browser... or installing a new Firefox
[11:15] <Hobbsee> spikeb: ah yep
[11:16] <spikeb> seamonkey works well, i hear.
[11:16] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: goto the mozilla home page and download the firefox  tar.gz  file
[11:16] <crazy_penguin> blasph: what are you using ? dapper or breezy?
[11:16] <Madkiss> hi all. How to start the graphical installation from the 6.06-CD without booting into the live system first?
[11:16] <blasph> crazy_penguin: breezy.
[11:16] <spikeb> Madkiss: don't believe that's possible
[11:16] <Madkiss> That's excellent
[11:16] <crazy_penguin> then you will find them in the repositories
[11:17] <Madkiss> spikeb: So of what use is this CD for me with my PowerBook from Oct 2005?
[11:17] <hastesaver> blasph, "To convert input.avi to the MPEG4 codec with MPEG3 audio encoding" -- is this what you want?
[11:17] <crazy_penguin> i saw them a few days ago when i installed something
[11:17] <spikeb> Madkiss: depending on how well it's supported, it could be very useful or useless
[11:17] <Mwafrica> Linux_galore: I cant go to any page... since i cant see a thing from my browser....
[11:17] <Madkiss> spikeb: It just died while loading into the live system.
[11:17] <spikeb> heh
[11:17] <blasph> hastesaver: I think I need MPEG 1 or 2... I need this to make a video CD in K3b
[11:17] <Madkiss> That's not funny at all.
[11:18] <spikeb> Madkiss: then possibly useless
[11:18] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: you may want to delete/rename  the /home/username/.mozilla/  directory then run firefox again
[11:18] <Madkiss> For god's sake why does Ubuntu just not provide a simple, standard installation CD?
[11:18] <hastesaver> blasph, oh, then just use the GUIs, should be easier to figure out :)
[11:18] <chamo> Madkiss: they do
[11:18] <Madkiss> chamo: With the graphical installer?
[11:18] <spikeb> Madkiss: first off, they do. second off, if the livecd failed, you're going to have problems.
[11:19] <blasph> hastesaver: so what package do I need?
[11:19] <chamo> ya
[11:19] <Mwafrica> linux_galore: What do u mean run again? like opening the firefox again?
[11:19] <hyphenated> the installer does a great job despite not being graphical
[11:19] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: ok  raname the /home/username/./mozilla  directory   /home/username/./mozilla-old
[11:19] <hastesaver> blasph, the ones crazy_penguin said (gtranscode, avidemux)
[11:19] <linux_galore> rename*
[11:19] <hyphenated> it only asks what, 10 questions, which you can generally just accept the defaults for
[11:19] <Mwafrica> ok
[11:20] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: then try running firefox again
[11:20] <blasph> hastesaver: both or just whichever?
[11:20] <Madkiss> Oh lord, it killed a kitten.
[11:20] <hastesaver> blasph, granscode should be enough
[11:20] <linux_galore> Madkiss: must be on of them evil winda's kittens
[11:21] <blasph> okay thanks hastesaver crazy_penguin
[11:21] <Mwafrica> Linux_galore: from my /home/jonas/  there is no ./mozilla....
[11:21] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: its a hidden directory
[11:21] <crazy_penguin> you're welcome blasph :)
[11:21] <Madkiss> linux_galore: the kitten here are all OSS kitten
[11:21] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: so your file manager wont show it by default
[11:21] <Mwafrica> how how do i see it?
[11:21] <Mwafrica> seen 5it
[11:22] <blasph> oh, just remembered I wanted to ask a newbish question: how come directories with names that start with a period aren't displayed in nautilus?
[11:22] <gill> hello all
[11:22] <spikeb> blasph: they're  hidden directories. by default, they aren't shown, although nautilus can be configured to show them
[11:22] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: right click "show hidden files"
[11:22] <zcat[1] > the same reason directories with +H aren't shown in windows?
[11:23] <Mwafrica> Linux_galore: yes..... i have seen and renamed... but when i run Mozilla from the bar it... brongs the same problem.....
[11:23] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: mozilla isnt firefox
[11:23] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: run firefox
[11:24] <Mwafrica> mine is Mozilla Firefox... from gthe title bar
[11:24] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: run epiphany
[11:24] <vladuz976> my monitor lists preset resolution 1280x1024 pixels @ 135 MHz what does the 135MHz stand for? is that my refresh rate?
[11:24] <blasph> spikeb: so why are directories like .xMule hidden?
[11:25] <cyne> i wanted to know what features would be avaiable in dapper drake, well i found it: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta
[11:25] <Mwafrica> Linux_galore: how do i do that... im completely new?
[11:25] <spikeb> blasph: mostly to keep directories looking clean :)
[11:25] <gill> how can you change the margins in open office writer program?
[11:25] <blasph> spikeb: oic. :)
[11:25] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: open a terminal and type epiphany
[11:25] <spikeb> cyne: does that page mention the blinding orange?
[11:25] <cyne> spikeb, yes
[11:25] <spikeb> cyne: whew
[11:26] <cyne> spikeb, it looks very very nice
[11:26] <Mwafrica> linux_garole: Command not found...
[11:26] <Boglizk> if i'm listening to music, i need to stop the music and restart firefox to hear any sound..
[11:26] <spikeb> cyne: it's bright, but yes, it does look nice.
[11:26] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: run nautilus then
[11:26] <Boglizk> which is really annoying
[11:27] <cyne> spikeb, the whole thing, i mean :)
[11:27] <Mwafrica> Linux_garole: (nautilus:8028): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk- bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[11:27] <Mwafrica> root@jonas:~ #
[11:28] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: sounds like you did some serious sytem breaking
[11:28] <linux_galore> system*
[11:28] <MistaED> vladuz976: yep, your refresh rate, which is pretty high, can it handle it?
[11:28] <Mwafrica> Linux_garole: aaaai
[11:28] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: did you isntall firefox with apt-get
[11:29] <Mwafrica> linux_galore: nooo.... it came with the Ubuntu CD
[11:29] <vladuz976> MistaED: i am confused, i don't think it should be in the MHz range. ithought it's only in Hz not MHz. Can this be?
[11:29] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: your problem is your using Linux like Windows, if you do that your going to constantly break it, learn to use the package manager
[11:30] <Mwafrica> linux_galore: That may be true........ cause im used to windows
[11:31] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: with Ubuntu you dont download "anything" "every", you get the package manager to download an install your software
[11:31] <MistaED> vladuz976: just realised the M in it, very weird
[11:31] <linux_galore> ever*
[11:31] <Mwafrica> Linux_galore: Can u recommend another browser for me?
[11:31] <dgtlchlk> are there any guides for setting up dual desktop/big desktop with ATI binary drivers?
[11:31] <linux_galore> Mwafrica: flush the install start again
[11:31] <vladuz976> MistaED: shouldn't be right. Can you look here? http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4568
[11:31] <MistaED> vladuz976: maybe xorg got a weird readout from the monitor, can you knock it down to 60hz?
[11:32] <AlmtyBob> vladuz976: horizontal refresh rate and vertical refresh are entirely different things
[11:32] <AlmtyBob> horizontal refresh is in Mhz and vertical is in hz
[11:32] <linux_galore> anyway Im out
[11:32] <_harm> how can i get support for WMV3 video codec?
[11:32] <vladuz976> AlmtyBob: so why does an LCD need ranges, i thought that's for CRTs only
[11:32] <Jimmey__> Morning all
[11:33] <calyth> Mwafrica: is there any reason why firefox would not work as a browser?
[11:33] <AlmtyBob> all screens have refresh rates
[11:33] <_harm> AlmtyBob is right
[11:33] <AlmtyBob> but you can directly compare an LCD refresh to a crt refresh
[11:33] <AlmtyBob> a 60hz refresh on an lcd is perfectly fine
[11:33] <AlmtyBob> whre as on a CRT it'd give you a headache
[11:34] <Mwafrica> linux_garole: it just stopped after i installed this p2p program
[11:34] <vladuz976> AlmtyBob: so can i instead of putting a range like 30-60 just put one number?
[11:34] <AlmtyBob> why on earth would you run @ CRT at 60hz?
[11:34] <_harm> mwafrica which p2p?
[11:34] <AlmtyBob> vladuz976: are you using a crt?
[11:34] <spikeb> you can get the max res that way
[11:34] <_harm> almtybob i dont know.. why now? its sharp!
[11:34] <AlmtyBob> if you have an insanely crappy monitor maybe
[11:34] <Mwafrica> harm: gunitella or something
[11:35] <AlmtyBob> most modern monitors support at least 70hz @ their max res
[11:35] <Fujitsu> AlmtyBob, no they don't!
[11:35] <GazzaK> Fujitsu, name one which doesn't
[11:35] <zcat[1] > Hell, I'd rather run it at 1024x768 if that's the only way to get a decent refresh rate... 60Hz is painful!
[11:36] <jack1> hi
[11:36] <jack1> hi hastesaver
[11:36] <vladuz976> AlmtyBob: no i am using LCD this one http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4568
[11:36] <Kream> hi all
[11:36] <hastesaver> jack1, hi!
[11:36] <AlmtyBob> then don't worry about your refresh rate
[11:36] <AlmtyBob> there's no reason to up the refresh rate on a CRT
[11:36] <dekela> Hi all
[11:37] <Kream> is there some sort of post-installation checklist that i can follow to get things like commonly used codecs and players working?
[11:37] <AlmtyBob> but no, it shouldn't list 135mhz, it's probably listing the horizontal instead of the vertical res
[11:37] <zcat[1] > AlmtyBob: you mean LCD ?
[11:37] <nilvio> how i get my wow work
[11:37] <jack1> the script dtill doesnt work for me hastesaver maybe cuz my mountpoint is /media/ipod but in the script they use /mnt/ipod
[11:37] <AlmtyBob> err yah
[11:37] <nilvio> it ask now 2 cd byt when i but okay
[11:37] <dekela> If my ssh connection was broken during apt-upgrade how can I check if it finished successfuly?
[11:37] <AlmtyBob> no reason to up an LCD refresh
[11:37] <xanavim> where can I get the tool mkjailenv?  I'm having a terrible time setting up jail
[11:37] <nilvio> that message coming again
[11:37] <zcat[1] > 135MHz sounds like the dotclock..
[11:37] <nilvio> !wow
[11:37] <ubotu> [wow]  To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[11:37] <hastesaver> jack1, oh, change it in the preferences -- you can specify the mountpoint in GTkpod prefernces
[11:39] <dekela> Anyone?
[11:40] <Samuar> ?
[11:40] <Jimmey__> dekela, run it again?
[11:40] <hastesaver> jack1, In gtkpod, Edit->Preferences, the General tab, the first entry is for "iPod Mount Point" -- put /media/ipod there.
[11:40] <_harm> dekela just try again?
[11:40] <xwing> can someone point me to some good wallpapers for ubuntu gnome 1280 x 1024?
[11:41] <Jimmey__> www.gnomelook.org
[11:41] <dekela> _harm:My ssh connection died in the middle of apt-upgrdae
[11:41] <jack1>   mom hastesaver  i had /media/ipod does it work that way for u? the script i read usese /mnt/ipod by default
[11:41] <dekela> _harm: how do I know if it finished successfuly?
[11:41] <ronicks> how can i view the services in kde?
[11:41] <dekela> Oh I see
[11:41] <cyne> xwing: http://images.google.com.au/images?as_q=wallpapers&svnum=10&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&imgsz=xxlarge&as_filetype=&imgc=&as_sitesearch=&safe=off
[11:41] <_harm> dekela just try again i think, and it will continue or report an error
[11:41] <dekela> So if it failed it will continue where it was left of
[11:41] <xwing> cyne: thanks
[11:42] <dekela> Good thank you people
[11:42] <jack1> hastesaver i am currently changing /fstab to /mnt/ipod
[11:42] <hastesaver> jack1, oh.. my /usr/share/gtkpod/scripts/sync-kaddressbook.sh uses IPOD_MOUNT=/media/ipod
[11:43] <rob> what the heck unzips .7z?
[11:43] <dekela> BTW: I spotted a good howto for dapper: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/install.html
[11:44] <jack1> hastesaver then thats not the reason the it was already right; it says it syncs but in fact it doesnt
[11:44] <claymore666> hey all, i can't seem up install kubuntu-desktop using apt-get, i get an error
[11:44] <Kream> is there some sort of post-installation checklist that i can follow to get things like commonly used codecs and players working?
[11:44] <claymore666> even using sudo
[11:44] <hastesaver> jack1, you have to first unmount it and eject it before you see the effect, right?
[11:44] <Jimmey__> What's the error you're getting, claymore666?
[11:44] <jack1> hastesaver '/usr/local/share/gtkpod/scripts/sync-kaddressbook.sh' returned the following output:
[11:44] <jack1> Syncing iPod ... [Contacts]  done!
[11:44] <claymore666> where can i paste it?
[11:44] <claymore666> it's about 3 lines long
[11:45] <milladiou_dediou> quelle webcam ?
[11:45] <Jimmey__> Three lines is alright in here, I think
[11:45] <claymore666> claymore666@lappy:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:45] <jack1> well yes but it doesnt
[11:45] <claymore666> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:45] <claymore666> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:45] <madmike> rob: 7zip one of the best compressors
[11:45] <rob> madmike, yeah so I see
[11:45] <Jimmey__> claymore666, are you running another instance of apt-get? Or synaptic?
[11:45] <claymore666> i was, i closed it
[11:45] <jack1> hey it works hastesaver /mnt/ipod
[11:46] <claymore666> im currently updating everything on my system though
[11:46] <hastesaver> jack1, great, whatever works! :)
[11:46] <claymore666> cause i couldnt get kubuntu to work
[11:46] <Jimmey__> When that's finished, then you should be able to download kubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <claymore666> i'll cancel it for now
[11:46] <milladiou_dediou> cherche webcam compatible sur linux
[11:46] <claymore666> since you're helping :)
[11:46] <madmike> rob: there seems to be no official ubuntu package, but there certainly are linux binaries
[11:46] <jack1> hastesaver the mountpoint cool!
[11:46] <ronicks> can someone teach me how to view the services.
[11:46] <rob> madmike, there is, p7zip
[11:46] <claymore666> so what do i do now... no apt get or any add applications are open
[11:46] <rob> I think anyway :)
[11:46] <vladuz976> where in xorg.conf can i set how many dots per inch my monitor displays?
[11:46] <madmike> rob: that's just waht I wanted to say
[11:47] <Jimmey__> claymore666, try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, again
[11:47] <claymore666> ok
[11:48] <claymore666> woo, working now
[11:48] <claymore666> odd :/
[11:48] <claymore666> thankyou
[11:48] <madmike> rob: I've heard ubuntu is even considering using it for their deb-packages... but 7z seem to eat a lot of cpu... to much for older computers
[11:48] <Jimmey__> claymore666, you can't use two instances of apt-get at the same time - that includes synaptic
[11:48] <claymore666> ahh, ok
[11:48] <claymore666> so maybe when that updates thing is showing
[11:48] <claymore666> i can't use it
[11:48] <rob> madmike, yeah it seems to from what I just saw (a 650mb) zip file
[11:49] <rob> its still extracting
[11:49] <Jimmey__> If you where installing updates, that's just the same
[11:49] <jack1> guys  how can i configure xchat that it automatically starts with certain channels? and wouldnt neen manually to do /join
[11:49] <rob> and my pc is chugging along (and its not that old)
[11:49] <jack1> need
[11:49] <claymore666> 400mb install
[11:49] <claymore666> geeze!
[11:49] <claymore666> well at least i already have openoffice installed
[11:49] <Jimmey__> jack1, you can add a channel to your buddy list, with Gaim
[11:50] <spikeb> the better you compress something, the longer and more resources its going to take to uncompress it
[11:50] <claymore666> is it easy to swap between window managers?, can i still use xwmconfig or whatever?
[11:50] <Jimmey__> Yes.
[11:50] <madmike> rob: seems we haven't reached crompression paradise yet ;)
[11:50] <claymore666> ohhh :D
[11:50] <Jimmey__> claymore666, you can choose the type of session you want from the login menu.
[11:50] <claymore666> crazy
[11:50] <claymore666> thanks
[11:51] <seven> Hi, for some reason I can't get "dchroot" with apt -get, is the package still available?
[11:51] <Jimmey__> seven, try searching for it in the synaptic package manager
[11:51] <Jimmey__> or apt-get search
[11:51] <spikeb> apt-cache search
[11:52] <crazy_penguin> jack1: click on the edit button in the server list option inte xchat menu
[11:52] <seven> hrm, I tried sudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap
[11:52] <jack1> Jimmey__thx but usually i have kopete and see right now that xchat is more handy
[11:52] <seven> no luck though
[11:52] <Jimmey__> jack1, okay
[11:52] <ocean1> in the xubuntu channel is there nobody
[11:52] <chaos_of_apocaly> how do i install visual route?
[11:52] <crazy_penguin> jack1: there you can edit modify what you need
[11:52] <liable> seven: apt-cache search is your friend
[11:52] <dennis_> hi , im looking for an ftp programm
[11:52] <ocean1> I have a thing to say
[11:53] <ocean1> the xubuntu have a problem with installation
[11:53] <Jimmey__> dennis_, a client, or a server?
[11:53] <ocean1> the partition manager dont find a scsi disk
[11:53] <dennis_> a client
[11:54] <ferronica>  my computer start booting when i switch on the main power
[11:54] <ocean1> the ubuntu work perfectly
[11:54] <ocean1> but xubuntu no
[11:54] <ocean1> is there a problem with scsi disk in partition manager
[11:54] <dennis_> Do you know a ftp client
[11:54] <ocean1> ok?
[11:54] <Jimmey__> ocean1, can you install ubuntu, then install xubuntu-desktop
[11:55] <jack1> crazy_penguin right, thx i had that discovered but couldnt find again that s it!
[11:55] <crazy_penguin> ok
[11:55] <crazy_penguin> welcome
[11:55] <ocean1> ok however I day for all peaple and for the developer
[11:55] <seven> Ok, I used apt-cache to search for dchroot, IT FOUND IT, but all the sources say the package is missing
[11:55] <ocean1> for the future ....
[11:56] <seven> i think its a really popular package, I dont get it
[11:56] <dennis_> #_deubuntu
[11:57] <andy__> hi guys
[11:58] <molkko> what is the simplest way to copy big files from breezy/ext3 to winxp/ntfs? if i use samba it fails after 2GB copied because of some smbfs problem
[11:58] <andy__> if i have the kubuntu dvd iso on my Windows partition, can i boot to a distro cd and isnstall from there rather than burning a dvd?
[11:58] <Jimmey__> seven, I just installed it without problems
[11:58] <andy__> molkko, its not advisable to copy to ntfs
[11:59] <dennis_> I NEED A FTP Prgramm (client)
[11:59] <seven> hrm
[11:59] <andy__> molkko, boot to yer winxp boot and get explore2fs
[11:59] <Jimmey__> seven, do you have the universe repositories enabled?
[11:59] <blaze> hey, friends, how to play http://media.bmgonline.com/rcarecords.com/jem/video/wish_i_56.asx in linux :) ?
[11:59] <blaze> what do i have to install
[11:59] <seven> I don't know. I'm knew to ubuntu =)
[11:59] <seven> I have everything default
[11:59] <seven> I just installed amd64 ubuntu
[12:00] <hastesaver> blaze, mplayer plays it, but there might be something easier than installing mplayer... I don't know
[12:00] <spikeb> i'm sorry
[12:00] <madmike> molkko, I can copy 2 Gbyte ove smb (from linux to linux) without a hitch
[12:00] <blaze> ok, so mplayer =) 10x
[12:00] <andy__> seven, i just got the dvd iso myself :)
[12:00] <madmike> molkko, what version of windows are you running?
[12:00] <McNutella> hey is there a disk defragger with ubuntu atall ?
[12:00] <ferronica> use UBUNTU and Kill Bill
[12:00] <ferronica> :O
[12:00] <Jimmey__> McNutella, I think there is a Linux Defrag, but it's really not necessary.
[12:00] <hastesaver> blaze, but first, read !restricted
[12:00] <molkko> andy__: its a windows machine. I am not writing to any ntfs partition from linux. i just want to move files from one harddrive to another
[12:01] <hastesaver> blaze, maybe all you need is some w32codecs...
[12:01] <valehru> does azureus work on x86_64 arch?
[12:01] <McNutella> whys it not necessary ?
[12:01] <dibblego> what's the man page for having services/processes start at boot?
[12:01] <Jimmey__> McNutella, because the ext3 filesystem was designed to minimise fragmentation.
[12:01] <McNutella> though if im curious Jimmey__ is there a tool with ubuntu ?
[12:01] <Blissex> Jimmey__: that is not quite right unfortunately...
[12:01] <Jimmey__> McNutella, I think I've seen one.
[12:02] <andy__> molkko, " what is the simplest way to copy big files from breezy/ext3 to winxp/ntfs?"
[12:02] <McNutella> Jimmey__: "seen" but not remember? :)
[12:02] <Jimmey__> I'm looking for it :P
[12:02] <molkko> madmike: my windows is some XP shipped along with a laptop bought 2 years ago
[12:02] <andy__> molkko, thats copying to an ntfs drive from windows, no?
[12:02] <hastesaver> McNutella, for questions like this, you can find answers using "apt-cache search defrag"
[12:02] <Jimmey__> http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/defrag.html
[12:02] <hastesaver> McNutella, and the package is called defrag, BTW :)
[12:02] <Jimmey__> Blissex, is it not?
[12:03] <McNutella> weehooooo :)
[12:03] <madmike> molkko windows can read from ext2
[12:03] <ferronica> what is the purpose of win32 codecs???
[12:03] <Blissex> Jimmey__: in theory it should be OK, but in practice it is terrible.
[12:03] <hastesaver> McNutella, but oh sorry, it doesn't mention ext3 :(
[12:03] <andy__> molkko, if you are booted in windows then get explore2fs and you can copy from ext2/3 to ntfs
[12:03] <McNutella> ahh well, as I said, im just curious to see how tidy the drive is
[12:03] <spikeb> ferronica: to play video using those codecs
[12:03] <Jimmey__> Blissex, ..Feel free to expand on that :P
[12:03] <andy__> molkko, do not try to copy the files from linux cos the ntfs partition may corrupt
[12:03] <Blissex> Jimmey__: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-3rd.html#050913
[12:04] <Jimmey__> Blissex, thankyou
[12:04] <molkko> andy__: i mean I have ubuntu and there ext3 drive. then i have another machine with winXP and that machine has ntfs drive. ethernet between the machines. i want to copy a file from said ext3 to said ntfs
[12:04] <andy__> molkko, you never said that. ok you need to use samba to share the drive
[12:04] <Blissex> as to  fragmentation and defragementation: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno06-2nd.html#060422b
[12:05] <g0dchild> Hi, if i download a dapper drake CD is there a lot of risk involved in prolly losing all the apps I presently have installed on the box?
[12:05] <madmike> molkko, or setup a ftp server on one side
[12:05] <andy__> molkko, then windows will see the drie over the network
[12:05] <madmike> molkko, or a shh server
[12:05] <Blissex> Jimmey__: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno06-2nd.html#060416
[12:05] <g0dchild> ack! Blissex! thats a pretty thorough blog. :)
[12:05] <GazzaK> g0dchild, is this the live cd or the install cd?
[12:05] <andy__> molkko, ftpd is a good option too :)
[12:05] <McNutella> defrag - ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter.. i searched it, how would I get it ?
[12:06] <molkko> andy__: i use samba but after 2GB copied it crashes everytime and when I google it seems to be a wellknown feature. my question is how to do it
[12:06] <g0dchild> GazzaK, I havent decided yet..i am planning to use install cd.
[12:06] <g0dchild> !dapper
[12:06] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:06] <madmike> molkko, I agree with andy__ on ftpd it's the easiest samba can be a bitch
[12:06] <andy__> molkko, get an ftp server started and you can access your stuff, therefore bypassing samba
[12:06] <molkko> ok. i try ftpd and ssh/scp
[12:07] <andy__> madmike, is it possibl to install ubuntu from an iso on a windows partition?
[12:07] <McNutella> is it apt-get ?
[12:07] <GazzaK> g0dchild, as far as I know, a normal install will overwrite the machines hard drive
[12:08] <jack1> hastesaver korganizer works but it doesnt add all contacts in kaddressbook dont know why
[12:08] <g0dchild> is it possible to do it through apt then?
[12:08] <lppcta> !tell andy about alternative-install
[12:08] <evi|one> Hello. I'm a newbie. I've just installed ubuntu 5.10 and notice I have Firefox 1.0.7 installed. How do I upgrade to Firefox 1.5.0.3? "apt-get install firefox" says I already have the latest version...
[12:08] <Jimmey__> GazzaK, it wont, unless you explicitly tell it to
[12:08] <AlmtyBob> after 2gb copied it crashes? I copied over 1 tb to my samba server with no issues
[12:08] <lppcta> !tell andy__ about alternative-install
[12:08] <hastesaver> jack1, oh I don't know... I don't my iPod Nano much, actually :)
[12:08] <jack1> i added %i for the mountpoint did u too?
[12:08] <GazzaK> okay, Jimmey__ I always do a clean install, that might be why
[12:08] <Jimmey__> Yeah
[12:08] <McNutella> hmm I guess itsn ot apt-get defrag
[12:08] <andy__> i have many other distro cd/dvds so booting isnt an issue
[12:09] <andy__> and i can mount the disk
[12:09] <madmike> andy__, you mean booted from windows from a iso-fileimage?
[12:09] <crazy_penguin> McNutella: is in the repo
[12:09] <Jimmey__> McNutella, there's no tools in the repositories for defragmenting ext3 filesystems
[12:09] <ferronica> Is there any program for ubuntu bamdwidth monitor
[12:09] <molkko> Almtybob: 1tb stuff no problem but if a single file is bigger than 2gb then it fails at least in my case
[12:09] <crazy_penguin> McNutella: apt-get install defrag
[12:09] <ferronica> like we use in windows
[12:09] <andy__> madmike, i mean boot to say a mandriva / fedora dvd and mount the iso on my windows partition
[12:10] <andy__> madmike, then install the OS from there
[12:10] <McNutella> so no point in getting it there
[12:10] <Jimmey__> crazy_penguin, that will only defragment ext2
[12:10] <crazy_penguin> i know
[12:10] <andy__> madmike, rather than have to burn a proper dvd
[12:10] <madmike> andy__, hmm
[12:10] <dennis_> HELP ME , I Need A ftp Client
[12:10] <lppcta> andy__: check message from bot
[12:10] <evi|one> Any help for me please?
[12:10] <apokryphos> dennis_: gftp is good for GTK
[12:10] <McNutella> ach well.. back to the vodka
[12:10] <madmike> andy, you can allways try to mount it and use the live installer
[12:11] <madmike> andy__, But I don't know if the live installer will say after the first reboot
[12:11] <andy__> madmike, hmmm will look into it
[12:11] <Yvonne> !fr
[12:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:11] <madmike> andy__, also i'don't knwo what you mean by "mount the iso on my windows partition'?
[12:11] <andy__> madmike, it shold be possible, plus im outta media and cant be assed going to buy more
[12:12] <dennis_> i cant find it under add Porgramms
[12:12] <andy__> madmike, i have just downloaded the kubuntu iso
[12:12] <questioner> i installed Windows XP right after i installed Ubuntu (5.04) which caused an ovrewrite of the MBR, now how can i get it so that i can choose what OS to boot again since now I can only boot into windows
[12:12] <popey> madmike: winimage can open iso files to drag files out
[12:12] <andy__> madmike, it is sat on my windows partition of 30Gb
[12:12] <blaze> how to install quicktime for linux? :D
[12:13] <madmike> andy__, okay then... it doesn't really matter where you save it as along as you can access it from linux
[12:13] <vladuz976> what's a typical DPI for a 19" LCD?
[12:13] <gighen> hi all
[12:13] <andy__> madmike, I have 60Gb ready to recieve kubuntu but i have no media to burn the install dvd
[12:13] <popey> blaze: there is no quicktime for linux, but you can install the codecs i believe, so you can play .mov files
[12:13] <madmike> andy__, now you just want to start (i.e. boot) the dvd or do you really want to install it?
[12:14] <andy__> madmike, i want to install it without having to burn the disk
[12:14] <gighen> is there anyone that have experience with vnc?
[12:14] <Jimmey__> andy_, maybe an FTP install
[12:14] <popey> andy__: might be possible with a boot floppy
[12:14] <popey> gighen: ask your question
[12:14] <lppcta> blaze: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[12:14] <madmike> andy__, what version of kubuntu is it?
[12:14] <andy__> madmike, i want to be able to mount the iso and then kick off the install from there, essentially a hard drive to hard drive install
[12:14] <lppcta> blaze: ffmpeg should play quicktime files natively
[12:14] <popey> andy__: don't think that is supported
[12:15] <gighen> I have a public internet point, and sometime I want to control what user do
[12:15] <andy__> madmike, kubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64
[12:15] <blaze> i'll try
[12:15] <andy__> madmike, can you see what im saying tho? im trying to avoid actually burning the thing
[12:16] <popey> gighen: ubuntu comes with a vnc server built in so you can remotely control it
[12:16] <gighen> I've used vnc but it seem not to do what I want
[12:16] <madmike> andy__, yes i do
[12:16] <popey> gighen: what exactly do you want to do?
[12:16] <andy__> one way i could do it is to create a partition and whack the iso in there
[12:16] <popey> andy__: I just don't think it's possible
[12:16] <gighen> thanks popey, do you refer at vino?
[12:16] <andy__> then tell the windows installer to boot from tat partition
[12:16] <popey> gighen: yes
[12:16] <madmike> andy__, the problem is all of the installer want to be booted from the start to begin with
[12:17] <madmike> andy__, the only exception is the dapper-drake live installer which can be started from the live-cd
[12:17] <gighen> Do you know any link for the documentation of vino?
[12:17] <popey> gighen: no, what do you want to do?
[12:17] <madmike> andy__, I'd suggest to download the cd-installer and burn it to a cd
[12:17] <madmike> andy__, like this you don't need to waste a dvd-r ;)
[12:17] <popey> madmike: the gui installer is recommended over the install cd now
[12:17] <Jimmey__> popey, even still, I prefer the text mode
[12:18] <gighen> Vino must run and the user dont have to see vino execution
[12:18] <popey> Jimmey__: sure, just saying it's "recommended"
[12:18] <lppcta> the gui installer has issues partitioning the disk though
[12:18] <madmike> popey, most will welcome this
[12:18] <gighen> and who is the client of vino?
[12:18] <gighen> vncviewer?
[12:18] <popey> gighen: yes
[12:18] <popey> gighen: any vnc client
[12:18] <gighen> thanks :-)
[12:18] <madmike> andy__, do you have any other (older) ubuntu or kubuntu cd's allready burned somewhere?
[12:19] <Hso> guys/gals, I have a Motorola V3 cellphone, and I want to use it with ubuntu(use = transfer photos from the phone to the pc). I don't think there is official software for linux from Motorola.. is there any 3rd party software that can do it?
[12:19] <gighen> I didn't found any documentation and I go on vncserver
[12:19] <Jimmey__> Hso, do you have a cable?
[12:19] <madmike> lppcta, ther was some fatal-errors with beta1 but those are fixed now
[12:19] <popey> Hso: does your computer have bluetooth? and does the phone?
[12:19] <gighen> now I go to vino
[12:19] <Hso> I have the usb cable, but no bluetooth
[12:19] <gighen> thank you
[12:20] <lppcta> madmike: k
[12:20] <Hso> I think the phone may support bluetooth, but I do not have the device..
[12:20] <popey> Hso: there's a new gnome-phone-manager
[12:20] <andy__> madmike, i dont this will be my first taste :)
[12:20] <Hso> hmmm
[12:20] <Hso> where can I grab it?
[12:20] <gighen> vino is installed well
[12:20] <popey> Hso: I don't think it's in breezy
[12:20] <andy__> madmike, i dont sorry. this is my first ta
[12:20] <gighen> how can I run vino server?
[12:20] <Hso> well, google has results so i'll check that out.. thanks
[12:21] <popey> gighen: you don't *have* to use vino, there's vncserver which is separate
[12:21] <andy__> madmike, no, this will be my first taste. ive used mandrake / mandriva for ages and anied a look at what else there was
[12:21] <madmike> andy__, well i just thought... maybe ou could install it from a cd-version from 5.10 the upgrade to kubuntu and upgrade the rest from internet sources
[12:21] <popey> hso no problem
[12:21] <gighen> I've installed also vncserver
[12:21] <andy__> madmike, yeah good suggestion!
[12:21] <gighen> but anytime that I connect to server I don't see the desktop
[12:21] <andy__> but i dont unfortunately
[12:21] <gighen> but another desktop
[12:22] <gighen> with one console
[12:22] <Hso> http://usefulinc.com/software/phonemgr/images/prefs <-- hmm... I don't see USB on this image..
[12:22] <popey> gighen: ahh, you want x11vnc
[12:22] <popey> gighen: which operates like vino
[12:22] <McNutella> where and how would I access a help document after installing something
[12:22] <RandolphCarter> McNutella: /usr/share/doc/*package name*
[12:22] <madmike> andy__, I can allways install kde over ubuntu and voil you've got kubuntu ... it's kubuntu is really just ubuntu with the additional kde packages
[12:23] <McNutella> RandolphCarter: thank you
[12:23] <gighen> I want to see what the user do (excuse me for my bad english)
[12:23] <RandolphCarter> McNutella: you'll probably need a combination of 'zcat' and 'less'
[12:23] <popey> gighen: yes, vino or x11vnc
[12:23] <madmike> andy__, and xubuntu ist really just ubuntu with xfce packages
[12:23] <andy__> madmike, thats cos KDE is the nuts :D
[12:23] <gighen> thank you
[12:23] <gighen> now I test x11vnc
[12:23] <RandolphCarter> McNutella: I think it may get put into Yelp too (still not entirely certain about that, anyone know for certain?)
[12:24] <McNutella> yelp eh :) cute
[12:24] <Hso> I have another ubuntu question ;P I want to add an application/command to the 'Panel', I right clicked on the panel, selected 'Add to Panel', clicked 'Run Application' and 'Add'. I click on the new cog-icon, and it has a text box... what I want, is to somehow make it as and run the 'xkill' command when I click on the icon, without having to go through the pulldown menu all the time.. is that possible?
[12:24] <madmike> andy__, I've got some friend that use mandrivia, some become happy with kubuntu some not... just don't kill you mandrivia-parition just yet  ;)
[12:24] <andy__> already have
[12:24] <RandolphCarter> hehe, looks like they do, and it's nicer than reading it in the console :) System->Help
[12:24] <andy__> nothing to lose
[12:25] <Hso> uh.. make it save and run **
[12:25] <andy__> madmike, lan storage for all my docs and i can easily receate my apps
[12:25] <g0dchild> can someone please advise...how do I use apt to upgrade to dapper?
[12:25] <ferronica> i hav just installed nlan from synaptic manager now where it is???
[12:25] <Hso> i don't know, g0dchild, i'm still a newbie to ubuntu ;(
[12:25] <andy__> madmike, buffalo 100Gb wireless network storage
[12:25] <popey> g0dchild: see #ubuntu+1
[12:25] <andy__> :D
[12:25] <gighen> perfect!
[12:25] <Jimmey__> g0dchild, maybe sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:25] <madmike> :)
[12:26] <ferronica> sorry nload
[12:26] <ompaul> !tell g0dchild about upgrade
[12:26] <ompaul> g0dchild, see the message from the bot
[12:26] <gighen> x11vnc is that I want!
[12:26] <popey> :)
[12:26] <gighen> thanks popey
[12:26] <andy__> madmike, http://www.ecost.com/ecost/ecmac/shop/detail~dpno~474671.asp but 100Gb
[12:26] <g0dchild> ompaul, will do. thx
[12:26] <popey> no problsm
[12:26] <ompaul> g0dchild, for all other dapper things #ubuntu+1 is the channel
[12:26] <madmike> andy__, harddrive on lan rocks, I use a linksys with a usb-hardrive
[12:26] <ferronica> i hav just installed nload from synaptic manager now where it is in system?????????????
[12:26] <andy__> madmike, it IS the future
[12:27] <ferronica> i hav just installed nload from synaptic manager now where it is in system?????????????
[12:27] <andy__> madmike, operating sysem and apps on system, documents elsewhere
[12:27] <andy__> madmike, system dies....who cares, get it reinstalled
[12:27] <ompaul> ferronica, you should know better than to repeat ...
[12:27] <gighen> how start x11vnc at boot? and if user change ... I've to run newly x11vnc for new user?
[12:27] <ferronica> lol
[12:27] <ompaul> not funny
[12:27] <andy__> ompaul, maybe its an echo :D
[12:27] <kempo_> hello all
[12:28] <Ohzie> I have universe servers, but not multiverse. :( Is there a way I can ad them?
[12:28] <popey> gighen: you could get it to auto start for each user by putting it in .xsession i think in each users home directory
[12:28] <ompaul> !tell Ohzie about multiverse
[12:28] <ompaul> Ohzie, read the message from the bot
[12:28] <madmike> andy__, seems to have a godd price.. what about the 'woman exceptance factor'?
[12:28] <gighen> ok ...
[12:28] <andy__> madmike, how do you mean?
[12:29] <gighen> thank you popey
[12:29] <madmike> andy__, noisy?
[12:29] <gighen> now I search documentation for x11vnc
[12:29] <popey> gighen: be careful though, it wont have a password
[12:29] <ompaul> ferronica, you run that in  a TerminX
[12:29] <ompaul> ferronica, you run that in  a terminal that is
[12:29] <madmike> andy__, i mean is it noisy to have it around the living room or is it okay?
[12:29] <ferronica> ompaul: really i dont know
[12:29] <andy__> madmike, sits in a cupboard on a towel so its fine
[12:30] <gighen> I noted this
[12:30] <ferronica> ompaul: what command
[12:30] <ompaul> ferronica, the one you installed with synaptic
[12:30] <madmike> andy__, my women doen't like when I install hardware with cables too many cabels and too much nise, that's why I ask ;P
[12:30] <ferronica> ompaul: what command should i use???
[12:30] <gighen> but vino is equivalent at x11vnc?
[12:30] <andy__> maddler, stick it in yer loft and forget about it :D
[12:31] <ferronica> ompaul: ok i just typed nload
[12:31] <ferronica> ompaul: it worked
[12:31] <fexor> hiho everybody, whould be anyone be as kind as answer me a few questions about LUA?
[12:32] <ferronica> ompaul: but why it is not avaialable in internet
[12:32] <ferronica> ompaul: but it showing in kilobits not in knilo bytes
[12:32] <ompaul> ferronica, it is a command line program and it is called nload .... you really need to read the desktop guide, which is installed on your machine please read the section on cli and do some research on the internet - if you do not make an effort you will not understand things - its a network utility - and not everything is on the menu such as cd and ls
[12:32] <dennis_> i dont know how to use an ftp client , i cant installed /find it
[12:33] <dli> dennis_, firefox can do basic ftp downloading
[12:33] <ferronica> ompaul: ok
[12:33] <ferronica> ompaul: :(
[12:33] <ompaul> ferronica, do this ->>man nload <<-
[12:33] <dibblego> !services
[12:33] <ubotu> services is, like, to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/
[12:33] <dennis_> yes , but i must upload something
[12:33] <dli> dennis_, okay, lftp is a great console client, "sudo apt-get install lftp"
[12:34] <ferronica> ompaul: it worked
[12:34] <dennis_> only type this into the consule?
[12:34] <dli> dennis_, or, you would like to try, gftp
[12:34] <dli> dennis_, yes, if you don't have synaptic opened
[12:34] <ferronica> ompaul: is there any good graphical banwidth monitor
[12:34] <ompaul> ferronica, no idea
[12:34] <dli> ferronica, icewm has a nice nic traffic monitor, gnome has a system monitor
[12:34] <fexor> is anyone familiar to LUA here?
[12:34] <dibblego> how do I run a service at boot time?
[12:34] <Jimmey__> ferronica, you can add the system monitor to your panel, and then make it display the network instead of or aswell as the CPU
[12:34] <ferronica> ompaul: but it showing in bits not in bytes??? :(
[12:35] <Jimmey__> fexor, that's that programming language used to with ET
[12:35] <ferronica> dli: icewm?????
[12:35] <Jimmey__> Just like Python. Kinda.
[12:35] <ferronica> dli: what is that
[12:36] <ompaul> ferronica, I told you read the man page and find out what switches / arguements to run with it, the first time I came across it was when you mentioned it and by reading the man page I get to this point >nload -u h eth1 <
[12:36] <dli> ferronica, if you don't know what it is, never mind, (icewm is a nice wm)
[12:36] <dennis_> that dont install anything
[12:36] <fexor> does anyone know how to create an GUI in LUA?
[12:36] <ferronica> nice wm ????
[12:37] <aktiv[b] > when organizing folders in win, i used # to override alphabetical order, to make i.e. #B* folder above A* folder, how can i do this in ubuntu ?
[12:37] <dli> dennis_, type "lftp" in a terminal
[12:37] <ferronica> dli: nice wm what???
[12:37] <Jimmey__> fexor, try in #lua
[12:37] <fexor> kk, thx
[12:37] <dli> ferronica, didn't I say "never mind"?
[12:37] <Ohzie> Is gaim 2.x anywhere in any of the synaptic repos? I seem to remember it being somewhere, but I can't find it. This makes me think I'm missing a repository with beta stuff or something.
[12:37] <dennis_> there stands : ltftp :~>
[12:38] <ferronica> dli: lol
[12:38] <gareth> anyone here have a HP5740?
[12:38] <dli> Ohzie, gaim-2.0 is not released yet
[12:38] <ferronica> dli: i want good bandwidth monitor, with nice graphical
[12:38] <dennis_> what shall i do?
[12:38] <dli> ferronica, gnome has a nice system monitor, didn't I say that?
[12:39] <ferronica> dli: yes
[12:39] <madmike> ferronica, what kind of bandwithd monitors have you tried ?
[12:39] <dli> dennis_, do you know how to use an ftp client?
[12:39] <dennis_> yes , but i cant see a ftp client
[12:39] <dli> dennis_, "sudo apt-get install gftp", gftp is gui
[12:39] <dli> dennis_, sorry for mentioning lftp, I should have said gftp
[12:40] <Ohzie> dli: That's why I feel like I'm missing a repo with beta stuff. Because I swear to god in heaven that I got Gaim 2.x off of a synaptic repo somewhere.
[12:40] <ferronica> dli: just downloded nload and bmon
[12:40] <ferronica> dli: these two only
[12:40] <marty> G'day all.. is there a complete newbie channel I can go to for some HDD install help?
[12:40] <Ohzie> dli: Thanks, though.
[12:40] <madmike> ferronica, I guess you are running ubuntu, right?
[12:40] <dennis_> puh , it works , thanks
[12:41] <Jimmey__> marty, right here :):)
[12:41] <dli> ferronica, if you don't know how to use a gnome tool :( what can I say? it's GUI
[12:41] <marty> OK.. I've just plugged in a new 250G HDD.. it's the first IDE (others are sata).  what do I do :)
[12:41] <blaze> how to install realplayer? because it tells me that it couldn't find realplay
[12:42] <ferronica> madmike: i am using ubuntu offcourse because KILL BILL :)
[12:42] <crazy_penguin> marty: run a partitioner
[12:42] <blaze> when i type sudo apt-get install realplay
[12:42] <marty> crazy_penguin, such as?  As I said.. complete newbie
[12:42] <ferronica> dli: what dose gnome means????
[12:42] <bbrazil> marty: boot up
[12:42] <ferronica> dli: i am really confusse
[12:42] <crazy_penguin> marty: what system do you use?
[12:42] <crazy_penguin> marty: os i mean
[12:43] <marty> crazy_penguin, ubuntu 5.10
[12:43] <lppcta> blaze: you want the codec or the actual player?
[12:43] <crazy_penguin> marty: then run the install cd
[12:43] <dli> ferronica, are you using ubuntu at all?
[12:43] <blaze> both
[12:43] <ferronica> dli: really i liked ubuntu, here i saw a big difference in internet speed
[12:43] <madmike> ferronica, you can install a bandwitdh-monitor by right-click on top-panel
[12:43] <ferronica> dli: yes UBUNTU
[12:43] <g0dchild> hi, I am running the upgrade now- but just one more question- will the packages i've downloaded for breezy work on the new upgrade? Or do i need to download each and every one of 'em?
[12:43] <crazy_penguin> marty: will help you to partition and install ubuntu
[12:44] <lppcta> blaze: well i think the codec is in the w32codecs pack - sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[12:44] <ferronica> madmike: i hav deleted the top pannel
[12:44] <marty> crazy_penguin: OK, I'll have a squiz at it and see how I go
[12:44] <crazy_penguin> ok
[12:44] <ferronica> madmike: customized as my use
[12:44] <crazy_penguin> marty: ok
[12:44] <madmike> ferronica, thats unlucky
[12:44] <madmike> okay then
[12:44] <blaze> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:44] <blaze> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:44] <blaze> is only available from another source
[12:44] <blaze> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[12:44] <blaze> and what does this mean?
[12:44] <madmike> ferronica, well it works with the bottom panel too
[12:44] <ompaul> !tell blaze about w32codecs
[12:45] <lppcta> blaze: your sources.list needs updating
[12:45] <madmike> ferronica, just right-click on the bottom-panel where there is some empty space
[12:45] <g0dchild> ompaul, some help please?
[12:45] <blaze> how to update it =) ?
[12:45] <ompaul> blaze, read the message fro the bot, and please do not paste in this channel, that is what paste.ubuntu-nl.org is for
[12:45] <lppcta> blaze: and possibly modifying to accept backports/multiverse
[12:45] <blaze> ok, ompaul, sry
[12:45] <dli> ferronica, okay, I will blame ubuntu then, for not letting you know what gnome is, but gnome is de from gnome.org, installed by ubuntu by default, ask ubotu about gnome
[12:45] <madmike> ferronica, then you select "+ add to the panel" (or some such, I have ubuntu installed in german)
[12:45] <ompaul> g0dchild, you need to join #ubuntu+1 for help with dapper
[12:46] <ompaul> g0dchild, that is what we made that channel for
[12:46] <g0dchild> right- i am there now-  :)
[12:47] <madmike> ferronica, are you still with me?
[12:47] <crux> omg! its my first time in ubuntu :| i did internet in one day :|
[12:47] <ompaul> g0dchild, that is your home until June 1 :-)
[12:47] <ferronica> madmike: yes
[12:47] <ferronica> madmike: what to add
[12:47] <ferronica> madmike: add pannel what???
[12:47] <madmike> you should see a big dialog with some icons
[12:47] <ferronica> ubotu gnome
[12:47] <madmike> ferronica, no panic ;)
[12:48] <madmike> ferronica, scroll all to way down to the systemmonitor icon
[12:48] <paradox_boun1> Hi anyone have experience with X over ssh I am trying to run remote X programs from a machine with X via a server with out X on my laptop at home?
[12:48] <ferronica> madmike: r u talking abot to add system monitor
[12:48] <madmike> yes
[12:48] <ferronica> madmike: i dont like that
[12:48] <madmike> :)
[12:48] <blaze> why isn't drag & drop working in xmms?
[12:48] <madmike> ferronica, I use it every day
[12:48] <blaze> and is there any way to make it work :) ?
[12:49] <madmike> ferronica, what is wrong with it
[12:49] <ferronica> madmike: nlad is better, i can show me total download and upload
[12:49] <ferronica> madmike: my total traffic usage
[12:49] <madmike> ferronica, well I guess I might try nlad then
[12:49] <ompaul> maddler, that should be nload
[12:49] <ferronica> madmike: i suggest u try it once :/
[12:50] <ompaul> madmike, that should be nload
[12:50] <madmike> ompaul, I shoudl switch
[12:50] <blaze> can somebody help me with it?
[12:50] <madmike> ompaul, I should switch my nick... maddler gets in the way all the time ;)
[12:50] <ferronica> madmike: please please do it now and help me to get familiar to its figures :)
[12:50] <ompaul> madmike, :-)
[12:50] <madmike> ferronica, so you don't need any suggestion for a bandwitdh monitor anymore?
[12:51] <ferronica> madmike: i need when u download nload
[12:51] <vladuz976> does ubuntu have any app that is installed by default to view pdf?
[12:51] <ferronica> madmike: after that
[12:51] <madmike> ferronica, I try to stick with suggestions to stuff I allready know ;)
[12:51] <bbrazil> paradox_boun1: so the server doesn't have an X server, but the laptop does?
[12:51] <ferronica> madmike: please please
[12:52] <ferronica> madmike: install for sometime and help me abot its figures
[12:52] <paradox_boun1> OK don't worry about that I found out it is because the apps are trying to open on the server I need to set up port forwarding on the server.
[12:52] <paradox_boun1> evince for pdf
[12:53] <paradox_boun1> yes.
[12:53] <ferronica> madmike: curr: 567 kBit/s what it mean
[12:53] <madmike> ferronica, well one can allways try
[12:53] <vladuz976> paradox_boun1: thanks
[12:53] <bbrazil> paradox_boun1: not manually. ssh -X will do it for you
[12:53] <ferronica> madmike: kBit/s????
[12:53] <ompaul> ferronica, if you had a standard menu I would say Applications System Networking tools but as you think that removing the standard trolls is the way forward then you will will just (A) frustrate yourself because your being referred to stuff that is not there in your version of the world and (B) being unfair by demanding that the world bend to your installation - perhaps you should think a little on this
[12:53] <madmike> kBit is 1024 bits
[12:53] <paradox_boun1> the server is my co-lo it connects to the firewall at work which does some iptables port forwarding to my desktop
[12:53] <madmike> kByte is 1024 bytes
[12:54] <WildZeck> bites or bytes
[12:54] <bbrazil> paradox_boun1: using ssh, everything runs over the ssh connection
[12:54] <WildZeck> ?
[12:54] <bbrazil> paradox_boun1: you can relay it via multiple ssh -X
[12:54] <madmike> bytes
[12:54] <ferronica> madmike: it mean it showing me in kilobits not in BYTES
[12:54] <ferronica> madmike: right
[12:54] <madmike> 1 byte = 8 bytes
[12:54] <madmike> 1 byte = 8 bits
[12:55] <madmike> sorry
[12:55] <bbrazil> madmike: it depends
[12:55] <ferronica> madmike: that i know LOL
[12:55] <paradox_boun1> bbrazil: You can?
[12:55] <bbrazil> paradox_boun1: yip. as long as the right programs are installed along the way to handle xauth
[12:56] <madmike> ferronica, well what do you need to know then?
[12:56] <madmike> bbrazil, why do you think so?
[12:56] <bbrazil> madmike: 9bit bytes
[12:56] <madmike> bbrazil, never heard of that
[12:56] <bbrazil> madmike: the idea mostly dies
[12:57] <bbrazil> madmike: *died
[12:57] <paradox_boun1> What I would really like is to be able to do the stuff i was doing with RHAS where I sshed into the box and the hust ran system-config-xxxx and it popped up locally since there are going to be several progs running steadily.
[12:57] <ompaul> error correction there bbrazil
[12:57] <madmike> bbrazil, some kind of error correction or something?
[12:57] <bbrazil> madmike: no, actually 9 bits in a byte. There's a reason the RFCs use 'octet'
[12:57] <bbrazil> madmike: remember there are 18bit systems out there
[12:58] <bbrazil> ompaul: an extra bit would only give error detection, you'd need hamming code for error correction
[12:58] <madmike> bbrazil, hmm never heard of 18 bit systems, what are those?
[12:59] <madmike> ferronica, what kind of help do you need woth nload?
[12:59] <farous> how can i change my power save options. Is it a daemon that i can just stop
[12:59] <ferronica> madmike: ok i got all abot nload
[01:00] <bbrazil> madmike: some of the PDP series
[01:00] <_harm> what is something that quitely runs in the background?
[01:00] <_harm> what is that called
[01:00] <_harm> ?
[01:00] <ompaul> _harm, daemon?
[01:00] <ferronica> madmike: hey can u send me ur desktop screenshot please :)
[01:00] <_harm> no
[01:00] <_harm> windows word for it :P
[01:00] <_harm> i need it for an annual report
[01:00] <bbrazil> _harm: service
[01:00] <_harm> iam not going to say the production department was a deamon
[01:00] <_harm> passive
[01:01] <bbrazil> _harm: you can spell it daemon
[01:01] <bbrazil> _harm: on windows it's either a driver or a service
[01:01] <madmike> ferronica, nothing special about my desktop... I don't have nload running (just the man-page of it)
[01:01] <ferronica> madmike: if u dont hav any problem???
[01:01] <ferronica> madmike: whatever just send me
[01:01] <madmike> ferronica, well you still seem to have one then?
[01:01] <ferronica> madmike: If u can....
[01:01] <_harm> bbrazil i meant passive :D
[01:01] <aLPHa_LeaK> _harm, job maybe?
[01:01] <aCiD2> Hey, anyone know how to get CPU specs (SSE support, etc)?
[01:01] <_harm> alpha_leak i meant passive
[01:02] <aLPHa_LeaK> oh.
[01:02] <bbrazil> aCiD2: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:02] <Ayabara> should I install the ati drivers for my laptop if I don't plan on gaming?
[01:02] <farous> how can i change my power save options. Is it a daemon that i can just stop. my screen goes blank every 2 min when i run on battery and it is irritating
[01:02] <aCiD2> thanks bbrazil
[01:02] <madmike> ferronica, I guess I'm man enought to take and send screenshot... I just don't know what you are about to do ;)
[01:02] <shoofle> So in synaptic, if I press mark all upgrades, it marks a bunch of unauthorized upgrades and also marks several packages (which I quite like) for removal.  What is going wrong?
[01:02] <madmike> bbrazil, interesting
[01:02] <ferronica> madmike: just wanna to see
[01:02] <ferronica> madmike: nothing special
[01:03] <_harm> bbrazil and alpha_leak >> The personnel department is another vital department which runs passively, always noting down  things said and done. This department should not be underestimated as it takes care of a lot of small things.
[01:03] <madmike> ferronica, okay
[01:03] <ferronica> madmike: ok, how could i find my sound card is used by ubuntu not MOBO onboard
[01:03] <bbrazil> _harm: monitoring, statistics gathering?
[01:03] <_harm> i got it now :D (K) thx dude read the text thats what i was trying to type
[01:04] <_harm> just couldnt find the word until i called my gf
[01:04] <madmike> ferronica, the screenshot is ready to send
[01:04] <madmike> ferronica, I'm not sure
[01:04] <ferronica> madmike: ok send send
[01:04] <Jimmey__> How can I take a screenshot whilst in non-graphical mode
[01:05] <Caveman> copy paste?
[01:05] <madmike> ferronica, hmm
[01:06] <madmike> ferronica, hmm doesn't seem to work
[01:06] <_harm> ferronica lol.. just highlite and paste it in a new document (select all > copy , then nano tekst.txt > paste save)
[01:06] <bbrazil> Jimmey__: screen has that feature (called hardcopy)
[01:06] <madmike> ferronica, you don't seem to get my screenshot
[01:06] <ferronica> why
[01:06] <ferronica> madmike: why???
[01:07] <shoofle> so now it doesn't seem to care about the unauthorized packages, but it still wants to remove the two.  why could this be?
[01:07] <ferronica> madmike: will i send u mine for trial
[01:07] <madmike> ferronica, that is the question
[01:07] <ferronica> madmike: wait
[01:07] <madmike> ferronica, okay
[01:07] <ferronica> madmike: accept it
[01:08] <ferronica> madmike: check PM
[01:08] <ferronica> madmike: there u will get as i think...............
[01:08] <shoofle> RRRRR
[01:08] <madmike> ferronica, the problem seems to be on my side
[01:08] <ferronica> madmike: i just right clicked ur name and selected send file
[01:09] <madmike> ferronica, I don't have me router setup for file-transfer via irc
[01:09] <madmike> ferronica, I will have to reconfigure my router first :/
[01:09] <ferronica> madmike: Do fast :(
[01:09] <ompaul> !patience
[01:09] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[01:10] <ferronica> madmike: lets exchange our innovatives ideas,
[01:10] <claymore666> hey all, i see that there is quake II for linux on this webpage, http://www.icculus.org/quake2/#download but what style/ type do i download for ubuntu ? :(
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> claymore666, deb
[01:10] <madmike> ferronica, I'm sorry I'll need to go eating something haven't eaten anythin all day ;)
[01:10] <shoofle> Does anyone know why synaptic would be wanting to remove two packages (one of which I do NOT want to get rid of) when I click "Mark all upgrade"?  Unfortunately I have to leave soon.
[01:10] <ferronica> madmike: when will u back???
[01:10] <ferronica> madmike: time? i am too feeling hungry
[01:11] <ferronica> madmike: i will be back in 30 miniutes and you???
[01:11] <madmike> ferronica, I'm only sporadically on this channel. I can't promise anything... I've got my wedding to plan
[01:11] <madmike> ;)
[01:11] <claymore666> Kamping_Kaiser, : what do you mean deb? :/
[01:11] <claymore666> heh
[01:11] <ferronica> madmike: LOL :)
[01:11] <ferronica> madmike: anyway BY BY
[01:11] <valehru> gah....Why oh god why am I getting "Segmentation Fault" when I try and run azureus
[01:11] <Deadmeat> Hey. I must ask you guys, why does apt-get replies with this?
[01:11] <Deadmeat> The following packages have been kept back:
[01:11] <Deadmeat>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[01:12] <madmike> ferronica, good luck ;)
[01:12] <ompaul> Deadmeat, what version?
[01:12] <Deadmeat> ompaul: Of the OS?
[01:12] <ompaul> Deadmeat, yes
[01:12] <Deadmeat> ompaul: 5.10 Breezy
[01:12] <Deadmeat> ompaul: I've got that reply for many weeks now, and I'm starting to wonder why it doesn't upgrades my kernel
[01:13] <ompaul> Deadmeat, did you customise your kernel?
[01:14] <claymore666> hmm
[01:14] <claymore666> hey all, i see that there is quake II for linux on this webpage, http://www.icculus.org/quake2/#download but what style/ type do i download for ubuntu ? :(
[01:14] <Deadmeat> ompaul: I haven't done any configuration except running apt-get on my server base-system installation
[01:14] <ompaul> Deadmeat, try >> sudo apt-get -f install <<
[01:14] <[Leo] > hi
[01:22] <iceberg> hi
[01:22] <iceberg> who's ice?
[01:22] <Deadmeat> ompaul: Im really sorry. My Internet connection died.
[01:23] <Deadmeat> ompaul: What was the last message you saw from me?
[01:23] <ompaul> Deadmeat, we saw you disappear
[01:23] <Deadmeat> All my computers got down
[01:23] <ompaul> nothing after your question which I answered did you see the answer?
[01:23] <Deadmeat> Nope, I don't think so
[01:23] <ompaul> Deadmeat, try >> sudo apt-get -f install <<
[01:24] <Deadmeat> ompaul: On my way!
[01:24] <paradox_boun1> jim@emma:~$ echo $DISPLAY
[01:24] <paradox_boun1> 0.0
[01:25] <paradox_boun1> Still having problems with remote X I have configured everything in between to allow X forwarding but I am still getting error messages like this:
[01:25] <paradox_boun1> jim@d127-ubuntu:~$ gaim
[01:25] <paradox_boun1> (gaim:15371): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_name: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
[01:25] <paradox_boun1> ** (gaim:15371): WARNING **: cannot open display: unset
[01:25] <paradox_boun1> jim@d127-ubuntu:~$
[01:25] <ompaul> !paste
[01:25] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[01:26] <claymore666> hey all, i see that there is quake II for linux on this webpage, http://www.icculus.org/quake2/#download but what style/ type do i download for ubuntu ? :(
[01:26] <_jason> paradox_boun1: it should be :0.0   , at least, that's what it is here
[01:27] <fexor> Is here anyone familiar with LUA?
[01:27] <Deadmeat> Omg. I don't know what's happening over here atm. All of a sudden my connection gets instable.
[01:27] <Deadmeat> ompaul:   0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[01:27] <paradox_boun1> locally it is but I am getting no response from when I run echo $DISPLAY
[01:28] <ompaul> Deadmeat, what does uname -r tell you
[01:28] <paradox_boun1> The machines at either end are ubuntu the two machines I am relaying through are debian sarge.
[01:28] <Deadmeat> ompaul: 2.6.12-9-386
[01:29] <paradox_boun1> Apparently ssh should automagically export the display variables
[01:30] <roico> why was filight 7, which is "alpha", released after beta2?
[01:30] <ompaul> Deadmeat, do this sudo apt-get install linux-image linux-headers - if your using nvidia or ati I you will need to reconfigure the desktop but other than that it should not be any grief it will want a reboot
[01:30] <Deadmeat> ompaul: I don't have a desktop :)
[01:31] <ompaul> my current kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[01:31] <Deadmeat> Oh, do you have time for a short spam-message in PM?
[01:31] <ompaul> work away but don't use the s word thanks :-)
[01:31] <Deadmeat> ompaul, sure thing :)
[01:31] <charbel> hey
[01:31] <charbel> this is my first time online with ubuntu!!!
[01:32] <aLPHa_LeaK> charbel, cool!
[01:32] <aLPHa_LeaK> charbel, dapper or breezy?
[01:32] <ompaul> charbel, you took your time we have been waiting for you and lots more for the last two years, ;-) welcome to #ubuntu how can we help you
[01:32] <charbel> breezy
[01:32] <MrRio> charbel, Welcome to ubuntu :)
[01:33] <charbel> it took me ages and couldn't figure out what was wrong with the adsl modem
[01:33] <claymore666> hey all, i see that there is quake II for linux on this webpage, http://www.icculus.org/quake2/#download but what style/ type do i download for ubuntu ? :(
[01:33] <charbel> now I got a router ...
[01:33] <ilba7r> !easysource
[01:33] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:33] <charbel> never used gaim before... I seem to have connected fine to icq
[01:33] <ompaul> charbel, they do make life a lot easier
[01:33] <ilba7r> i am having an error trying to open the source-omatic page. can anyone confirm that it is an error from the site not my pc
[01:33] <charbel> I configured msn.. but it didn't start
[01:33] <charbel> what should I do so start msn (same for yahoo)
[01:34] <ompaul> charbel, did you install "dapper" or "breezy"
[01:34] <charbel> 5.10 , is that breezy?
[01:34] <ompaul> yeap
[01:34] <foffen> hey everyone, thanks for ubuntu! it's great!
[01:34] <Jimmey__> charbel, right click on the icon in the top right, click accounts, and where it says "online", tick the box
[01:34] <charbel> oh thanks!
[01:35] <charbel> that worked, thans Jimmey!
[01:35] <Jimmey__> charbel, you're welcome :)
[01:35] <ompaul> charbel, if you tab after you type the first few letters you may find that auto completion works well
[01:36] <aphonex> nainai de
[01:36] <ompaul> aphonex, ?
[01:36] <aphonex> 
[01:36] <ompaul>  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:36] <Deadmeat> ompaul: You got a PM if you didn't notice :) so if you've the time, I'd be glad if you just could take a fast look at it :)
[01:36] <ompaul> ? jp nippon
[01:37] <foffen> anyone can give me pinter on how to install irssi? when i try sudo apt-get install irssi i get E: Package irssi has no installation candidate
[01:37] <aphonex> 
[01:37] <_jason> foffen: irssi-text is the package name but it should already be installed, just try typing irssi
[01:37] <ompaul> Deadmeat, you have not sent one, I think you will have to register on the network
[01:37] <ompaul> !register
[01:37] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:37] <geforcex> aphonex
[01:37] <Deadmeat> foffen: apt-get install irssi-text
[01:37] <foffen> it was, thanks! it xirssi the gui addon?
[01:37] <Deadmeat> ompaul: Oh, darn... I'll check that out as well
[01:38] <aphonex> 
[01:38] <Deadmeat> foffen: Dunno :)
[01:38] <foffen> =) thaks anyway
[01:38] <aphonex> LumaQQ
[01:38] <geforcex> 
[01:38] <ompaul> geforcex, what language is that, looks chinese but .. I could be wrong
[01:38] <aLPHa_LeaK> japanese?
[01:38] <aLPHa_LeaK> eh?
[01:38] <aphonex> 
[01:38] <geforcex> LumaQQ
[01:38] <geforcex> chinese
[01:38] <aLPHa_LeaK> k
[01:39] <aphonex> 
[01:39] <geforcex> ??
[01:39] <ompaul> okay then this is an english language channel does this not help
[01:39] <foffen> i've been an MS admin for 10 years almost but this is my first real linux instalation, i feel like i guess my mom doesn when i tru to explain windows stuff to her haha
[01:39] <ompaul>  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:39] <aphonex> 
[01:39] <Senilix> aphonex: du. jeg synes at du skal skrive p engelsk.
[01:40] <aphonex> LumaQQ
[01:40] <geforcex> QQ:646301936
[01:40] <aphonex>  5.10
[01:40] <Senilix> aphonex, geforcex: det er s irriterende nr folk skriver p andre sprk p en engelsksprklig kanal, skjnner du.
[01:41] <Deadmeat> Damn. Now I have to figure out what my password is, haha
[01:41] <freeflying> ompaul: hi
[01:41] <geforcex>  i will chat with him alonely
[01:41] <nilvio> !wow
[01:41] <ubotu> well, wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[01:42] <Deadmeat> brb
[01:42] <ompaul> freeflying, thanks
[01:42] <Falluccer> hello
[01:42] <freeflying> ompaul: np
[01:44] <thomas_> I'm getting the following error when trying to compile the latest alsa drivers; http://pastebin.com/715099
[01:44] <Falluccer> i'm running windows 2000 right now and herd that microsoft is going to cut support for the older operating systems like 2000. I found Linspire through a friend and really liked it, but I didn't like the fact that it wasn't free. Then I was reading through some linspire stuff and you were one of there competitors so I figured i'd take a look at ubuntu.
[01:45] <octan> howdy all.. im trying to compile cryptosetup.. but during the configure it exeit with this error:
[01:45] <octan> checking for poptGetArgs in -lpopt... no
[01:45] <octan> configure: error: You need popt to compile.
[01:45] <octan> wtf is popt
[01:45] <_jason> octan: popt (3)             - Parse command line options
[01:45] <marty> G'day all.. I'm trying to add an IDE drive to a setup with 2 SATA's.. I can't get the system to recognise the IDE.. any ideas?
[01:46] <metatag> hi isa
[01:46] <octan> _jason, ahh so i need libpopt-dev
[01:47] <metatag> hi spacey
[01:47] <_jason> octan: yeah, probably
[01:47] <ompaul> Falluccer, get a live CD play around with it and move to an install a few days later go to www.ubuntu.com and click on the download link
[01:47] <ubuntu> hi
[01:47] <Falluccer> I have a few questions because I'm new to linux, and ubuntu. Is the desktop near the same as Windows
[01:48] <ubuntu> hello
[01:48] <Waerner> Falluccer: It's easy to use. If you can handle the Windows-desktop, you can handle the Gnome- and KDE desktop :)
[01:48] <_jason> Falluccer: you should give the livecd a try, so you can give it a test run before you install it on your hard drive
[01:49] <Falluccer> ok, also, no spyware and viruses...
[01:49] <metatag> hi ubuntu
[01:49] <_jason> !linuxvirus
[01:49] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[01:49] <iNiku> soun
[01:49] <iNiku> oops
[01:50] <metatag> hi digen
[01:50] <metatag> hu nwonknu
[01:51] <metatag> hi cler
[01:51] <Ayabara> anyone with lineak experience here?
[01:52] <milladiou_dediou> ola
[01:52] <metatag> Ayabara : wats lineak ?
[01:52] <milladiou_dediou> good day
[01:52] <Zezin> Does anybody know is the next Ubuntu will have a better NTFS support?
[01:52] <Trackilizer> hi
[01:52] <Trackilizer> any body gay??
[01:53] <milladiou_dediou> good vinos
[01:53] <Trackilizer> :>
[01:53] <_jason> Zezin: define better?
[01:53] <Trackilizer> no
[01:53] <_jason> !offtopic
[01:53] <Falluccer> when I install ubuntu, can I run it right from dos
[01:53] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[01:53] <metatag> Zanin : of course
[01:53] <milladiou_dediou> in vinos veritas
[01:53] <Ayabara> metatak: linux easy access keyboard I think it means. I'm trying to get the media keys on my laptop to control Headphone volume instead of Internal speaker volume
[01:53] <Ayabara> lineakd
[01:53] <metatag> Fallucer : yes
[01:53] <Zezin> Jason, well at Kn0oppix there are no Bugs when some directories have `  ^ ~  etc...
[01:53] <_jason> Falluccer: no, ubuntu is its own operating system.  It doesn't run through dos
[01:54] <Zezin> at Ubuntu
[01:54] <Zezin> the is a wrong ecoding
[01:54] <milladiou_dediou> tchin tchin
[01:54] <Falluccer> no I mean, can I install it from dos
[01:54] <_jason> Zezin: try mounting with nls=utf8 as an option
[01:54] <metatag> Fallucer : yes
[01:54] <Zezin> and this causes me lots of problems :)
[01:54] <Falluccer> I'm gonna reformat my drive
[01:54] <Abountu> to install skype using synaptic (or apt-get) what should I do?
[01:54] <Falluccer> I've already backed up what I need to
[01:54] <_jason> Falluccer: you just pop in the install cd and reboot, it will boot from the cd and you install from there
[01:55] <Zezin> OIC... simple like that?
[01:55] <metatag> Falluccer : its really easy.. just pop in the cd and reboot
[01:55] <ompaul> Falluccer, no you can't you need an install cd it is going to own the hard drive if you want it to, how bigh is the hard drive
[01:55] <Falluccer> 10gb
[01:55] <Falluccer> not big
[01:55] <metatag> Falluccer :  fine
[01:55] <Falluccer> I'm a casual user
[01:55] <ompaul> Falluccer, got an install CD?
[01:55] <Falluccer> downloading the iso, and then burning it
[01:55] <Zezin> Hey Jason, thank you very much! I'll try this!
[01:56] <_jason> Zezin: np, hope it works
[01:56] <metatag> Zezin : no problem
[01:56] <metatag> hi _jason
[01:56] <Abountu> hello...  to install skype using synaptic (or apt-get) what should I do?
[01:56] <_jason> metatag: hi
[01:56] <Falluccer> what are the system requirements for ubuntu
[01:56] <metatag> !requirements_ubuntu
[01:56] <ubotu> metatag: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:57] <metatag> !ubuntu_requirements
[01:57] <ubotu> metatag: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:57] <metatag> strange
[01:57] <Falluccer> !ubuntu_requirements
[01:58] <metatag> !howto_make_the_bot_work
[01:58] <ubotu> metatag: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:58] <ompaul> Falluccer, what size is the box in terms of proc and ram and video card
[01:58] <thomas_> I need help installing alsa drivers
[01:58] <metatag> thomas_ : hi
[01:58] <ompaul> Falluccer, you should read this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[01:59] <metatag> thomas_ : do you know how to make mayonnaise?
[01:59] <ompaul> metatag, your really offtopic
[01:59] <ompaul> !offtopic
[01:59] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:00] <metatag> ompaul : how we measure if something is offtopic ?
[02:00] <ompaul> by it not being a ubuntu support query
[02:01] <metatag> what is the scope of an ubuntu support query?
[02:01] <metatag> ompaul : what is the scope of an ubuntu support query?
[02:02] <Falluccer> ompaul, i'm running a 455mhz pentium II, 256mb of ram, and an 8mb graphics
[02:02] <metatag> Fallucer : it will work like a charm
[02:03] <Bill_Gates> the ral slim shady
[02:03] <Bill_Gates> real*
[02:03] <metatag> this is offtopic
[02:03] <ompaul> Falluccer, if you find that slow install xubuntu-desktop after the base install - depends on what you want to do
[02:03] <Bill_Gates> the query bary fery
[02:03] <Bill_Gates> sorry
[02:04] <metatag> Bill_Gates : don't be off topic else ompaul will ban u...
[02:04] <metatag> hey!
[02:04] <metatag> that was rude mate
[02:04] <Bill_Gates> yes?
[02:05] <octan> has anyone expericance wirh cryptsetup?
[02:05] <metatag> ompaul : that was rude
[02:05] <iNiku> bah, what's wrong with these people?
[02:05] <Abountu> why isn't mp3 files playing?! can anyone help plz?
[02:05] <metatag> duno
[02:05] <thomas_> can someone please help me with thie error? I get it when compiles alsa-utils http://pastebin.com/715120
[02:05] <metatag> iNiku : they keep banning people
[02:05] <ompaul> !tell Abountu about restricted formats
[02:06] <iNiku> metatag: I didn't mean those people.
[02:06] <metatag> iNiku : who?
[02:06] <kuja> What's the best way to get access to Windows files via a Linux box? Windows is installed through VMWare Player so perhaps mounting isn't the best idea. Would I use Samba?
[02:06] <mustard__> can you change the resolution in a virtual terminal without rebooting?
[02:06] <octan> thomas_ the error is obviouse
[02:06] <iNiku> thomas_: sounds like you're missing a file. but why are you compiling alsa-utils in the first place?
[02:06] <shutdown> Hello everybody!! I am Shutdown, an italian boy... I am 16!
[02:07] <octan> thomas_, No such file or directory
[02:07] <shutdown> _jason: Hello My Friend!!
[02:07] <shutdown> :-D
[02:07] <mustard__> come to think of it, what would be the kernel option to get a high resolution in terminal?
[02:07] <iNiku> thomas_: why not just sudo apt-get install alsa-utils?
[02:07] <shyboy> lu
[02:07] <thomas_> iMiki, my audigy 4 isn't working, it only works with the newest alsa
[02:07] <iNiku> thomas_: oh, I see
[02:07] <shyboy> french?
[02:07] <metatag> thomas_ : iNiku is right
[02:08] <iNiku> !fr
[02:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:08] <metatag> thomas_ : better do wat he says
[02:08] <octan> who has used cryptsetup?
[02:08] <shyboy> thank
[02:08] <tuxit> !nl
[02:08] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[02:08] <thomas_> its compile perfectly before, just doesn't work now, what could I be missing for the compile? iNiku
 did you run make clean | distclean before you started the configure ?
[02:08] <thomas_> no
[02:08] <octan> try that
[02:08] <iNiku> thomas_: is it a cvs snapshot or a release?
[02:09] <thomas_> release
[02:09] <slvmchn> is it possible to assign the mp3 filetype to xmms instead of xine? when i play music in xine it freezes the window, and i have to reboot to get control of my soundcard back
[02:09] <slvmchn> and my girlfriend just double clicked this song and now i can't close it
[02:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell slvmchn about defaultapp
 yes.. its easy in kde
[02:09] <octan> ops.. you prob use gnome ;:P
[02:10] <thomas_> thomas@clamp:~/Desktop/alsa-utils-1.0.11$ make clean | distclean
[02:10] <thomas_> bash: distclean: command not found
[02:10] <thomas_> make: *** [clean-recursive]  Broken pipe
[02:10] <octan> LOL
 make clean or make distclean
[02:10] <bbrazil> thomas_: make distclean
[02:10] <ompaul> slvmchn, so what youwant to do is to right click on an mp3 icon and set the default from there
[02:11] <slvmchn> excellent, thank you
[02:11] <slvmchn> that was painless
 distclean isnt always included.
[02:11] <slvmchn> thanks guys
[02:11] <ompaul> slvmchn, so you can set the default with open with other application
[02:11] <octan> anyway.. who has used cryptsetup?
[02:12] <thomas_> octan, didn't work
[02:12] <octan> distclean?
[02:12] <thomas_> wel,l it cleaned, but I then did ./configure, and then make, but same error
[02:12] <octan> ok
[02:13] <octan> try redownloadng the source
[02:13] <thomas_> already did
[02:13] <octan> cos your missing a file
[02:13] <octan> try the cvs
[02:13] <thomas_> I tried it with a different source aswell
[02:15] <thomas_> tried cvs too
[02:15] <Falluccer> are network connections on ubuntu easy to set up
[02:15] <thomas_> I saw one other person with the error on ubuntuforums, but he didn't resolve it
[02:15] <iNiku> I have a feeling the file should be created during the build
[02:16] <thomas_> thats what I think
[02:16] <iNiku> no idea what a .gmo file might be, though
[02:16] <metatag> ompaul
[02:18] <Abountu> hi I'm  trying "sudo apt-get ... "  it's giving me an error:
[02:18] <Abountu> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:18] <Falluccer> hey, I was just wondering, which web browser works best with Ubuntu
[02:18] <Abountu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:19] <Abountu> Falluccer: I guess the answer is Firefox
[02:19] <_jason> Abountu: is synaptic open?
[02:19] <Falluccer> wasn't opera proven to be better then firefox
[02:19] <Falluccer> or is firefox more optimized for linux
[02:20] <iNiku> the Opera 9 beta is really nice.
[02:20] <Falluccer> I don't like the widgets in it though
[02:20] <[TnJ] Baffo> hi all
[02:20] <Falluccer> so I went back to 8.5
[02:20] <metatag> hi
[02:20] <metatag> wats up?
[02:20] <iNiku> what's wrong with them?
[02:20] <[TnJ] Baffo> can i ask a couple of questions about ubuntu?
[02:20] <_jason> [TnJ] Baffo: no need to ask for permission, just ask away
[02:21] <[TnJ] Baffo> ok
[02:21] <[TnJ] Baffo> between the languages there is also italian?
[02:21] <metatag> iNiki : wiht ompaul ?
[02:21] <Falluccer> what drive partition does Ubuntu use
[02:21] <iNiku> metatag: huh?
[02:22] <metatag> iNiki : whats wrong with whom?
[02:22] <iNiku> I was asking Falluccer what's wrong with the opera 9 widgets.
[02:22] <[TnJ] Baffo> so? anyone got an answer?
[02:22] <jakel> hi, i was wondering where i can get ubuntulooks gtk+2 engine
[02:22] <[TnJ] Baffo> please
[02:22] <metatag> oh sorry
[02:22] <_jason> [TnJ] Baffo: yes, you can even join #ubuntu-it and speak in Italian with ubuntu users
[02:23] <[TnJ] Baffo> oh thanks a lot
[02:23] <Falluccer> nothing, I just don't like the widgets, plus I didn't really need the widgets
[02:23] <Netcat> hi guys .. I want to have career in linux on server side... Right now i'm just a newbie in linux.. Can anyone suggest me some helpful links with the help of which i'll be able to shape my career and stay on the right track
[02:23] <[TnJ] Baffo> do you have tryied ubuntu under MS virtual pc 2004?
[02:23] <metatag> ompaul : wats trolling ?
[02:23] <[TnJ] Baffo> *tried
[02:23] <iNiku> Falluccer: you know you can turn them off, right? :)
[02:23] <iNiku> Falluccer: 9 beta just seems to work a lot better than 8.5 in all respects for me
[02:23] <Falluccer> didn't get that far into it before putting 8.5 back on
[02:23] <iNiku> looks nicer too
[02:24] <metatag> Netcat : break things and repair
[02:24] <iNiku> and I love the content blocking feature.
[02:24] <metatag> Netcat : needs practice
[02:24] <iNiku> the beta has been perfectly stable for me, too
[02:24] <Falluccer> well I'll probally use 9 once I install ubuntu
[02:25] <iNiku> heh, thanks.
[02:25] <Falluccer> are the widgets any good
[02:25] <nmetalburuk> hey guys
[02:25] <Invader_zim> Hello there :)
[02:25] <iNiku> Falluccer: dunno. like you, I haven't felt any need for them so I just turned them off
[02:26] <Falluccer> i tried using one or two, and they slowed down speed and start up time
[02:26] <Invader_zim> I would like to get some sort of Torrent program to work on my Ubuntu server which i can use throught the console any suggestion?
[02:26] <iNiku> Falluccer: in my experience rendering and compatibility has been much improved over 8.5 and those are probably the main points for me.
[02:26] <Falluccer> azureus
[02:26] <iNiku> and I love the usability of opera in general
[02:26] <[TnJ] Baffo> i have to go
[02:26] <Falluccer> or the regular bittorrent client
[02:26] <[TnJ] Baffo> bye
[02:26] <[TnJ] Baffo> and thanks
[02:26] <Invader_zim> can i install that with apt-get?
[02:27] <devie> why isn't NVU available from apt-get anymore?
[02:27] <iNiku> azureus won't work on the console, obviously
[02:27] <Falluccer> I don't know if you can, www.bittorrent.com
[02:27] <thomas_> anyone able to help? Is there a list of the depencies needed to compile alsa?
[02:27] <Invader_zim> thanks :)
[02:27] <Invader_zim> Im installing bittorrent now
[02:27] <Falluccer> you should find a linux version there
[02:27] <nmetalburuk> I'm having problems installing my Nvidia drivers - I've tried sditing xorg.conf manually, running countless scripts, and everything leads me to the smae error message
[02:27] <Invader_zim> I hope i can use bittorrent throught the console
[02:28] <Invader_zim> My server is sitting in my roof not in the mood to clime up there now
[02:28] <MisterN> hi
[02:28] <nmetalburuk> (EE) Fatal server error No screens found
[02:28] <Falluccer> how do you keep your server from overheating
[02:29] <nmetalburuk> is that to me?
[02:29] <iNiku> Invader_zim: the official bittorrent client used to have both a command line client and an ncurses (ascii graphics) one
[02:29] <Blissex> Falluccer: is that a question?
[02:29] <iNiku> Invader_zim: not sure if they are there anymore but I would think so
[02:29] <aLPHa_LeaK> Invader_zim, bittorrent should already be installed. iirc the command is btdownload_headless for the console...
[02:29] <Falluccer> Invader zim_ how do you keep your server from overheating
[02:29] <Invader_zim> I just installed bittorent through apt-get but it doesnt look like It has man pages
[02:30] <Invader_zim> HAHA i dont
[02:30] <Invader_zim> I hope it doesnt catches on fire one day
[02:30] <iNiku> btdownloadcurses or btdownloadheadless, I think
[02:30] <Invader_zim> thank you iNiku :)
[02:30] <iNiku> Invader_zim: you have to give the .torrent file on the command line
[02:30] <Falluccer> don't use the main bittorrent engine
[02:30] <nmetalburuk> so could you guys give us a hand?
[02:30] <iNiku> and there are tons of options
[02:31] <Falluccer> hey thanks for the help and chatting everyone, I'll be on in an hour or two when my download is finished
[02:31] <iNiku> Invader_zim: however, you know you can run a GUI BT client on your server and just use your linux workstation as a display (assuming you have one)?
[02:32] <nmetalburuk> no?
[02:32] <iNiku> Invader_zim: if you're not familiar with the X windowing system, that's the cool thing about it
[02:32] <Invader_zim> yeah I do :)
[02:32] <devie> this is kind of dumb, why isn't NVU available through apt-get?
[02:32] <_jason> !info nvu
[02:32] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[02:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell devie about universe
[02:32] <Invader_zim> but i can figure out the console
[02:32] <Invader_zim> I hope
[02:33] <iNiku> Ivaldi: yeah, but the thing is, the official bt client is crap
[02:33] <iNiku> er, Invader_zim
[02:33] <Invader_zim> very crap?
[02:33] <iNiku> Invader_zim: you'll get much better download rates and general usability with something else
[02:33] <devie> kind of weird, last time I installed breezy I didn't have to change my sources.list to get nvu
[02:33] <thomas_> anyone? I really need to get this working
[02:33] <iNiku> like ktorrent, or azureus which is java
[02:33] <Invader_zim> I see I need to look around
[02:33] <thomas_> is there deb files for the latest alsa?
[02:33] <Invader_zim> shit I know and that is not console most probably
[02:34] <iNiku> Invader_zim: you can still run it remotely over X
[02:34] <Invader_zim> even though I dont have Gnome installed?
[02:34] <iNiku> Invader_zim: it has nothing to do with gnome
[02:34] <Chri[s] > or vpn
[02:34] <iNiku> X has worked remotely since way before Gnome even existed :)
[02:35] <Invader_zim> OK I see
[02:35] <iNiku> Invader_zim: from a unix workstation running X, "ssh -X server my_x_application"
[02:35] <iNiku> and magically, the application should pop up on the screen of your workstation
[02:35] <Chri[s] > heh magic
[02:35] <devie> getting apt-get now, thnx
[02:36] <Invader_zim> great :)
[02:36] <devie> errr
[02:36] <devie> nvu
[02:36] <Invader_zim> thank you
[02:36] <Invader_zim> lemme get into my ubuntu quick
[02:36] <Invader_zim> and try
[02:36] <devie> I switched to SuSE for all of about an hour
[02:36] <iNiku> Invader_zim: you can try it with xclock or whatever
[02:36] <devie> then came running back to Ubuntu
[02:36] <iNiku> ssh -X server xclock
[02:38] <Invader_zim> Talk to you now now iNiku, thanks for the help
[02:38] <Invader_zim> cheers guys
[02:38] <siccness> Hey guys!
[02:38] <devie> can I run KDE apps from Gnome, as long as I have KDE installed?
[02:38] <Chri[s] > yes
[02:38] <Chri[s] > it just requires that you have QT LIbs
[02:39] <Abountu> this one should be easy, I hope somebody can help me, I can see the different disks mapped, as sda1 / sda2 / sdb1.... but if I dbl click it says The folder contents could not be displayed, you do not have the permissions necessary to view the contes of  sdb1 ...
[02:39] <gnomefreak> devie: yes
[02:39] <Abountu> can you help?
[02:39] <devie> I thought so, did an apt-get of konversation, and it prompted me to install the libs, so I assumed it would work
[02:39] <gnomefreak> devie: yes
[02:39] <siccness> Abountu: chmod
[02:39] <vladuz976> is there a command line dictionary?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> damn lag bad here
[02:39] <devie> brb
[02:39] <siccness> gnomefreak: I copped the lag as well.
[02:39] <aLPHa_LeaK> Abountu, what filesystem type are they using?
[02:40] <Abountu> chmod  777 /media/sda1 ...?
[02:40] <dli> any suggestion for desired but missing tools on livecd?
[02:40] <siccness> Yeah, you'll have to use sudo
[02:40] <siccness> sudo chmod...
[02:40] <blaze_> how to install a C/C++ compilator ?
[02:41] <tofarley> sweet
[02:41] <Frogzoo> blaze_: 'sudo apt-get build-essential'
[02:41] <Abountu> ok thnaks siccness.. I'll try that,
[02:41] <Frogzoo> blaze_: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[02:41] <siccness> :)
[02:41] <siccness> Abountu: Just out of curiosity, what FS is it?
[02:42] <blaze_> Frogzoo, i'll try :)
[02:42] <Abountu> siccness: it's still not opening!
[02:42] <Abountu> drwxr-xr-x   5 root root 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 sda1
[02:43] <blaze_> build-essential is already the newest version.
[02:43] <blaze_> Frogzoo,
[02:43] <siccness> Abountu: Chmod the location, not the device.
[02:44] <Frogzoo> blaze_: so you should now have gcc & g++ & you're good to go...
[02:44] <siccness> my bad
[02:44] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone tell me what program can i install to see tv on the pc?
[02:45] <Thug-N-Me> how will i use 10 Gb of 120 gb hdd for windows and the rest ubuntu ? so i can make a dual boot and start which ever i want ?
[02:45] <cellfish> how would i enable access to a ntfs HD on ubuntu?
[02:45] <Thug-N-Me> what would be the best way ? install ubuntu first and leave 10 Gb free space so i can install windows later on ... or install windows first ?
[02:46] <blaze_> Frogzoo, and.. an editor?
[02:46] <blaze_> i mean.. something like DevC++ ?
[02:46] <Chri[s] > Thug-N-Me: Make 10 gigs of it in 3 partitions /, /boot and swap
[02:46] <cellfish> like the system sees the hard disk but when i choose 'enable' in the administration in disks, it doesn't do anything
[02:46] <Frogzoo> blaze_: for writing code, emacs or vi are both good
[02:46] <Chri[s] > Thug-N-Me: Install windows first
[02:46] <Thug-N-Me> Chri[s]   well the 10 Gb of 120 i would like to be windows ... abnd the rest 110 GB ubuntu
[02:47] <siccness> Thug-N-Me: installing linux first will mean you'll have to edit bootlosfrt config, i believe
[02:47] <Thug-N-Me> Chri[s]  so install windows first and make what ?
[02:47] <siccness> *bootloader
[02:47] <roryy> !ed
[02:47] <ubotu> ed is the standard editor! ed, man! man ed!
[02:47] <Thug-N-Me> siccness  yeah ...
[02:47] <siccness> So really, your call. Be easier to install windows first, than linux.
[02:47] <Chri[s] > Thug-N-Me: no no you can set partitions in windows and linux, so when you install windows tell it 10 gigs
[02:47] <siccness> Just my opinion though.
[02:47] <Thug-N-Me> Chri[s]  install windows and make a 10 Gb partition for it right ? and rest 110 gb leave it unformated @?
[02:48] <Chri[s] > Thug-N-Me: Correct
[02:48] <blaze_> i don't have emacs
[02:48] <blaze_> i mean it won't start
[02:48] <siccness> anyone here use irssi? if so, how dyou close private windows?
[02:48] <siccness> *how do
[02:48] <Thug-N-Me> Chri[s]  and then when im going to install ubuntu how will i tell to leave the 10 Gb with windows on it and use ONLY the rest of the space left ?
[02:48] <_jason> siccness: /window close, or /wc for short
[02:49] <siccness> thanks mate :)
[02:49] <roryy> blaze_: have you installed the emacs21 package ?
[02:49] <siccness> Thug-N-Me: Just make sure you don't select the windows partition :)
[02:49] <Chri[s] > Thug-N-Me: a good way to setup your partitions on your linux is in blocks like, maybe 10 gigs for the whole system aka /, 250 megs for /boot, 1 gig for swap space, and then i just dump the rest of the 90 gigs in /home
[02:50] <blaze_> roryy, nope :)
[02:50] <blaze_> i'm installing it now
[02:50] <roryy> blaze_: ubuntu, alas, does not come with emacs installed by default
[02:50] <Thug-N-Me> siccness and how will i know which one has windows on it ?
[02:51] <siccness> It'll say NTFS
[02:51] <siccness> as the FileSystem.
[02:51] <blaze_> roryy, ok, thank you :)
[02:51] <siccness> Which means, you'll have "Unpartitioned" - select that one.
[02:51] <Thug-N-Me> siccness ohh i see
[02:51] <Thug-N-Me> siccness ok
[02:52] <Thug-N-Me> Chri[s]  siccness  someone said to install linux first .. is it better ?
[02:52] <valehru> Hey guys, having a problem with 32 bit firefox in ubuntu
[02:52] <samuli> it's better to install windows first
[02:52] <siccness> Installing Windows first will probably be easier for you.
[02:52] <valehru> the icon is missing: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1127/screenshot5im.png
[02:52] <valehru> theres an example
[02:52] <siccness> and I'd usually install windows first.
[02:52] <tofarley> hrmm, what is a good AIM/MSN/ICQ messenger program?
[02:52] <tofarley> I'm not a fan of Gaim
[02:53] <Chri[s] > heh what they said
[02:53] <siccness> GAIM
[02:53] <siccness> Oh, heh.
[02:53] <Frogzoo> tofarley: GAIM
[02:53] <tofarley> heh, the gaim fanboys are in full force today :)
[02:53] <siccness> Good to see I'm not the only one not reading :P
[02:53] <Frogzoo> :/
[02:54] <tahorg> tofarley: any irc client + bitlbee
[02:54] <siccness> Thug-N-Me: Are you planning on install it now?
[02:54] <Thug-N-Me> yes
[02:54] <siccness> (Win/Ubuntu) that is.
[02:54] <siccness> Do you have another computer with internet access?
[02:54] <Thug-N-Me> yeah
[02:54] <siccness> Well, I'm happy to stay up awhile to assist you through it all.
[02:55] <siccness> I'll have to throw the kettle on though :P
[02:56] <Thug-N-Me> :))
[02:56] <Thug-N-Me> heh ok thanks
[02:58] <Luigi17> hola voy a instalar ubuntu en mi maquina y quisiera q me recomendarais una version para q me instale o me espero a q salga una nueva?
[02:58] <_jason> !es
[02:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:59] <Stc> hello
[02:59] <siccness> Hey!
[03:02] <cellfish> how does one use an ntfs drive from inside ubuntu? like what needs to be done?
[03:02] <siccness> cellfish, not quite sure but I lost all my data because of it.
[03:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell cellfish about ntfs
[03:03] <siccness> (writing to it, anyway).
[03:04] <Ahmuck> hi, i am having problems with some packages
[03:04] <Ahmuck> plone to be specific
[03:04] <Ahmuck> it states that it will BREAK because of plone2
[03:04] <Ahmuck> however there is no plone2
[03:04] <cellfish> according to the 'ubotu' dialog, the mounting of ntfs drives in 5.10 is automatic (that's what i'm using)
[03:05] <jfried> hi
[03:05] <cellfish> but i still can't access it.. it's not seen in the browse folders dialog
[03:05] <jfried> does anyone know, how i can set the audio recording time in rosegarden4 to more than 3:30 minutes?
[03:05] <fourat> how to install the latest kernel version 	2.6.17-rc4 on my ubuntu with apt ? i would like to see if with the latest kenel version i will no longer have problems with my sata disk (laptop)
[03:07] <esj> tried installing vmware workstation 5.5 on my laptop (running 5.10) and now it locks up durring X startup and I can't get to any of the virtual consoles.  Any ideas on how to debug/recover?
[03:08] <fourat> !backports
[03:08] <ubotu> from memory, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:08] <fourat> !kernel
[03:08] <lppcta> esj: you could stop the vmware services from running at boot time
[03:09] <esj> lppcta: I expect that would need to use live CD to do that?
[03:10] <lppcta> esj: you would need access to the system.
[03:10] <iNiku> booting to single user mode should work
[03:10] <Lejban> gam_server running 70% cpu constant, anyone have a solution?
[03:10] <lppcta> esj: you could probably do it through the live cd though using chroot
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Lejban: sudo killall gam-server  :)
[03:10] <esj> or as somebody else said, single user mode
[03:11] <siccness> heheh thoreauputic :P
[03:11] <esj> I wasn't thinking terribly clearly at 2 a.m. when it failed.  ;-)
[03:11] <thoreauputic> siccness: seriously - it just respawns :)
[03:11] <siccness> :-)
[03:12] <siccness> I'm so awfully close to removing Windows completely, but I need it for visual basic :(
[03:12] <popey> siccness: you can run windows in qemu under ubuntu
[03:12] <esj> let me try and recover that I will be back to ask questions about figuring out why it failed.  I know I used the right compiler (3.4)
[03:12] <popey> siccness: so you can just boot up windows when you need it inside linux
[03:12] <lppcta> siccness: vb 6.0 runs under wine. vb.net runs under mono
[03:12] <siccness> Hmm
[03:12] <esj> siccness: I have run Windows under qemu and it's really horrible
[03:12] <thoreauputic> hmm.. actually it's gam_server and killall won't do it I don't think
[03:13] <esj> you might try and do what I'm doing which is running it under VM Ware
[03:13] <popey> esj: works very well here with latest cvs of qemu
[03:13] <esj> are you using the accelerator?
[03:13] <siccness> I'd rather not run windows whatsoever, but i'll have a look into wine.
[03:13] <popey> yes
[03:13] <thoreauputic> esj:  kqemu is much faster ( but I've only used it with linux distros)
[03:13] <thoreauputic> still pretty slow though...
[03:13] <popey> win98se boots in about 11 seconds or so in my qemu
[03:13] <popey> maybe a bit less
[03:13] <siccness> Heh
[03:14] <marcel__> hello, what is the cups username / passwd for admin?
[03:14] <lppcta> siccness: wine isn't actually running windows, it's just passes calls onto linux
[03:14] <siccness> Yeah lppcta.
[03:14] <thoreauputic> popey: well, w98 is old - it isn't as bloated as XP
[03:14] <jfried> does anyone know, how i can set the audio recording time in rosegarden to more than 3:30 minutes?
[03:14] <popey> xp doesn't take long here either
[03:14] <Fr3d> d
[03:14] <esj> Here's my challenge.  I need it for a couple of things.  First a speech-recognition (I'm handicapped yada yada yada), second is to produce bubbles for dedicated applications for an open-source project I run
[03:14] <Rayman> can I preview incomplete divx/xvid? I can't seek past 00:00:05
[03:14] <siccness> I'll definitely look into wine, if it's stable using vb6.0, then I'll be extremely happy.
[03:15] <fourat> how to install the latest kernel version 	2.6.17-rc4 on my ubuntu with apt ? i would like to see if with the latest kenel version i will no longer have problems with my sata disk (laptop)
[03:15] <siccness> The other option was to manually work vb files in a text editor.
[03:15] <siccness> But that's not so easy ;P
[03:15] <iskywalker_> hi!
[03:15] <iskywalker_> i cant convert formulae from latex to html with latex2html
[03:15] <hastesaver> iskywalker_, what does it say?
[03:15] <popey> just booted to xp in qemu - no more than 40 seconds or so to get to the desktop
[03:16] <iskywalker_> the images just look black and with nonsense
[03:16] <siccness> 40seconds? eek :P
[03:16] <chaos_of_apocaly> i instaled tvtime but when i use it it exits automatically.what can i do??
[03:16] <iskywalker_> chaos_of_apocaly: strace
[03:16] <iskywalker_> strace tvtime
[03:16] <popey> that's a full boot from cold siccness with windows running off a usb disk! :)
[03:17] <IR0ND4GG3R> HEY IM A NEWB HOW DO I GET SUN JAVA IN SO I CAN USE FROSTWIRE?
[03:17] <Morimando> hey chaps i need some helf. is anyone available?
[03:17] <hastesaver> IR0ND4GG3R, first, turn off capslock
[03:17] <hastesaver> IR0ND4GG3R, next, read !restricted
[03:17] <chaos_of_apocaly> it stil does not work
[03:17] <lppcta> siccness:http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=130 <---- says vb is gold, which means it runs well.although you might have some problems with ActiveX
[03:17] <hastesaver> !tell IR0ND4GG3R about restricted
[03:17] <Morimando> got a localization problem i guess, on a website i move the umlauts are missing
[03:17] <IR0ND4GG3R> wheres that at?
[03:18] <siccness> Thanks lppcta, i wasnt expecting such good help!
[03:18] <hastesaver> IR0ND4GG3R, read the link ubotu sent you. (or type /msg ubotu restricted )
[03:18] <lppcta> siccness :)
[03:18] <iskywalker_> chaos_of_apocaly: strace tells you why it doesnt work, it doesnt correct the error
[03:18] <imsorryi> hi
[03:19] <Lejban> gam_server running 70% cpu constant, anyone?
[03:19] <hostix> Hey
[03:19] <iskywalker_> Morimando: maybe the input method is wrong, you can set it on the html, see selfhtml
[03:19] <chaos_of_apocaly> with mplayer i can see tv?
[03:19] <hostix> how can i get root privs?
[03:19] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: it is possible
[03:19] <hybrid> hostix: you need to use sudo
[03:20] <chaos_of_apocaly> how
[03:20] <the_mr_bong_show> how is every one today
[03:20] <hostix> sudo was it called :D
[03:20] <lppcta> chaos_of_apocaly: yes - mplayer "dvb://Channel name"
[03:20] <iskywalker_> chaos_of_apocaly: sure: mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l
[03:20] <hybrid> hostix: sudo <command> and enter your user pass
[03:20] <BlueEagle> !tell hostix about sudo
[03:20] <hastesaver> iskywalker_, I don't know... look at the HTML source, see what image it links to, see if that image is present, see if you can view that image...
[03:20] <hostix> i know about sudo
[03:20] <chaos_of_apocaly> on the terminal?
[03:20] <siccness> lol
[03:20] <hostix> i just couldn't remember what is what called
[03:20] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: yes
[03:20] <BlueEagle> hostix: well then why do you ask how to get root access?
[03:20] <iskywalker_> hastesaver: already did it
[03:21] <iskywalker_> the images just look crappy
[03:21] <Morimando> We moved the page from suse 8 server to suse 9.3 server and now ubuntu breezy server, but from the 2nd server on the umlauts are fucked
[03:21] <hostix> what it was*
[03:21] <BlueEagle> hostix: ahh.
[03:21] <hostix> thx
[03:21] <hostix> bye bye
[03:21] <IR0ND4GG3R> ok i found the thing
[03:22] <BlueEagle> morimando: How are the umlats coded in the web pages, and are the pages valid?
[03:22] <IR0ND4GG3R> but how do i change the location
[03:22] <lppcta> chaos_of_apocaly: if you have a tv pci card, then you can use - mplayer "dvb://channel". although you might need to use the scanning tools to find the channels first
[03:22] <BlueEagle> morimando: ie do you use &ouml; instead of  or was it 
[03:22] <IR0ND4GG3R> i would neeed to make chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin directed to the file in my home folder for example
[03:23] <IR0ND4GG3R> so what would i put and where
[03:23] <Morimando> There are some where no &xuml is used, so these are the ones that don't work
[03:23] <iskywalker_> Morimando: file muh.html
[03:23] <hastesaver> IR0ND4GG3R, use "cd <directory_name>" to go that directory. If you're not comfortable with using the terminal, read !easyubuntu
[03:24] <BlueEagle>  even
[03:24] <the_mr_bong_show> the_mr_bong_show says i
[03:24] <the_mr_bong_show> hi
[03:24] <Morimando> muh.html?
[03:24] <IR0ND4GG3R> where can i read that at
[03:24] <BlueEagle> morimando: &xuml; isn't a character I've ever seen. How is the encoding set?
[03:25] <Morimando> sorry that i meant to shorten &auml &ouml &uuml ^^
[03:25] <Morimando> so i say &Xuml ^^
[03:25] <hastesaver> IR0ND4GG3R, type "/msg ubotu easyubuntu"
[03:25] <BlueEagle> ahh
[03:25] <BlueEagle> morimando: Well you need the semicolon after &Xuml
[03:25] <BlueEagle> ie &Xuml;
[03:25] <lppcta> !tell IROND4GG3R about easyubuntu
[03:26] <Morimando> ah some hint maybe: in putty i haven't got umlauts even in the programs themselves, yet if i work local on the server, i got the umlauts as needed
[03:27] <iskywalker_> Morimando: muh.html was only a example
[03:28] <BlueEagle> morimando: ubuntu uses utf-8 and not iso8859-1 I think suse 8 used iso8859-1 character encoding. Try altering the setting in putty when connecting.
[03:28] <hastesaver> something's wrong with the insQEMU.sh script mentioned at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu ?
[03:28] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: worked for me...
[03:28] <hastesaver> I get "cp: cannot stat `kqemu/kqemu.ko': No such file or directory"
[03:29] <IR0ND4GG3R> so when i use easy ubuntu will that put in the java i need for frostwire
[03:29] <the_mr_bong_show> 02 what are some of the things i can do on ubuntu
[03:29] <Larsson-Sweden> When trying to to play a video with fbxine, i get "video port failed" . It worked fine in Suse.
[03:29] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: did you follow the full instructions? And is this on breezy?
[03:29] <BlueEagle> hastesaver: You're missing the kqemu kernel object (isn't that what ko stands for?)
[03:29] <siccness> Jesus I'm an idiot sometime, trying to use apt-get when Synaptic is open :|
[03:29] <Morimando> ah okay i'll try. i also didn't load the module for iso8859-1, only for -15
[03:29] <hastesaver> thoreauputic, yes, on breezy
[03:29] <hastesaver> thoreauputic, and I just used the insQEMU.sh script, instead of the other detailed one
[03:29] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: the whole thing compiled and installed flawlessly here
[03:29] <hastesaver> BlueEagle, where do I get that from?
[03:30] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: I used the script too
[03:30] <FaithX> siccness: Jesus doesn't think yao're an idiot
[03:30] <siccness> :-)
[03:30] <hastesaver> thoreauputic, As far as I can see, the full instructions are "download the script and run it" -- is there something more?
[03:31] <Larsson-Sweden> When running mplayer in fb, how to adjust the screen? The image is far too much to the left.
[03:32] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: hmm, I did it a while ago...
[03:32] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: I actually don't really remeber to be honest
[03:32] <thoreauputic> *remember
[03:34] <Drac|Win> I'm on a 600MHz iMac G3, and it's acting strange. X is being very, very, very laggy if not completely disfunctional. The video driver is properly set to "ati" and soforth. What could be wrong?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: you have build-essential installed etc?
[03:34] <johannes> hi, im looking for a lan scanner which shows me all windows/samba shares in the scanned ip range, and where i can access these shares with just a double click or something like that. any ideas?
[03:34] <hastesaver> thoreauputic, yes
[03:35] <dli> I need recommendations for packages to be installed on a livecd :)
[03:35] <gnomefreak> dli: build-essential?
[03:36] <Jimmey__> If I did a server install, and then apt-got GDM and Gnome etc, would that...work?
[03:36] <Larsson-Sweden> Can't play videos in fbxine. "Video port failed"
[03:36] <dli> gnomefreak, others?
[03:36] <Morimando> hm even if we adjust putty to use -15 it still has no umlauts. that's weird. Can i tell Ubuntu to use 8859-1 as standard locale?
[03:36] <Morimando> maybe that would be better
[03:37] <thoreauputic> Jimmey__: sure - but you can just install ubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <gnomefreak> dli: a bunch but would move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:37] <Jimmey__> thoreauputic, but that comes with too many packages that I don't want.
[03:37] <thoreauputic> Jimmey__: so pick what you want and install that
[03:38] <thoreauputic> Jimmey__: you'll need x-window-system-core at least
[03:38] <Jimmey__> thoreauputic, I'll mess around later
[03:38] <BlueEagle> !info xubuntu-desktop
[03:38] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[03:38] <thoreauputic> Jimmey__: use apt-cache search to find what you need
[03:38] <esj> for future reference, the grub entry for recovery mode is the same as single user mode
[03:38] <BlueEagle> jimmey__: xubuntu-desktop might be what you want.
[03:39] <thoreauputic> BlueEagle: although he did mention gnome...
[03:39] <Super_Cat_Frog> Hi. Ive just installed the latest dapper, the first time it booted, the wlan worked, when i upgraded using 'adept', and rebooted, im now getting this: ifconfig eth0 up \n eth0: ERROR while getting interface, no such device. The module (ipw2200) is already loaded and the radio is turned on. any suggestions?
[03:39] <esj> current confusion is that as I try to disable vmware start up strips
[03:39] <Jimmey__> !dapper
[03:39] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[03:39] <esj> update-rc is telling me that the vmware entries in the various rcN directories are not links even though they are links
[03:40] <Morimando> How can I tell Ubuntu to use iso8859-1 as standard instead of utf8?
[03:40] <BlueEagle> esj: have you checked the owner, group and access rights and compared them to the other links?
[03:40] <Hfuy> Afternoon all.
[03:40] <Morimando> 
[03:40] <esj> a soft link is a soft link but yes I will check
[03:40] <Jimmey__> Morimando, you mean with Gedit?
[03:40] <Morimando> systemwide
[03:40] <BlueEagle> morimando: umlats show here.
[03:40] <Hfuy> How do I change the application a file opens with? I'd like to make *.avi open with VLC not Totem.
[03:40] <Morimando> pico, nano, putty ^^
[03:41] <Morimando> Putty doesn't use the umlauts correctly
[03:41] <BlueEagle> !utf-8
[03:41] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlueEagle
[03:41] <esj> BlueEagle:  interesting.  VM Ware startup script was created with 555 permissions
[03:41] <esj> could that be why it's not starting up right?
[03:42] <phreakaz> Hy everybody, how can I adjust my X-screen to fit my monitor size, currently I have big margins on all sides (but only when using 1600x1200, with 1200x1024 it's OK). I some distris, when setting up the X-Server, have a tool to size/position your screen.
[03:43] <Hfuy> I just put Ubuntu on a laptop and it detected the odd widescreen display perfectly - I was very surprised.
[03:44] <dli> Hfuy, should be
[03:44] <Hfuy> Yeah it should be
[03:44] <jfried> does anyone know, how i can set the audio recording time in rosegarden to more than 3:30 minutes?
[03:44] <Hfuy> But it usually doesn't.
[03:44] <BlueEagle> esj: It's a possibility.
[03:44] <Hfuy> Can someone advise me how to change default applications?
[03:44] <phreakaz> Might be cause I use a keyboard/monitor switch, that ubuntu has some difficulies with detecting my monitor right
[03:45] <bimberi> !defaultapp
[03:45] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[03:45] <dli> Hfuy, System -> Preferences -> Preferred applications
[03:45] <BlueEagle> esj: as a basic rule: If an executable file does not execute it has probably not got the executabel flag set. :)
[03:45] <Hfuy> Thanks.
[03:45] <_foffen> Hfuy: als see http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch09.html#id2540804
[03:45] <_foffen> ;)
[03:45] <Hfuy> Uh no. That's about setting up mail readers
[03:46] <Hfuy> Ah right that's fixed it.
[03:46] <Hfuy> VLC doesn't do sound, but I'm assuming codec issues.
[03:46] <Hfuy> Is there some standard codec pack I can get with apt
[03:46] <fourat> s
[03:46] <fourat> how to install the latest kernel version 	2.6.17-rc4 on my ubuntu with apt ? i would like to see if with the latest kenel version i will no longer have problems with my sata disk (laptop)
[03:47] <dli> fourat, "sudo apt-get install kernel-package"
[03:47] <fourat> kernel-package ? wich version ?
[03:48] <dli> !kernel-package
[03:48] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dli
[03:48] <dli> fourat, okay, /join #debian, and ask dpkg (the bot) about kernel-package
[03:48] <dli> any big brother here? teach ubotu about kernel-package
[03:49] <Jimmey__> after I ifconfig ra0 up, ifup ra0 doesn't work..
[03:49] <Jimmey__> I want to be able to configure ra0 through the command line
[03:50] <Smurk> Rebonjour
[03:51] <Smurk> Oups, erreur de chan.
[03:51] <Smurk> Au revoir. :)
[03:51] <BlueEagle> !info setlocale
[03:52] <bimberi> dli: you can do it :)
[03:53] <dli> bimberi, big brothers must do something here anyway
[03:53] <bimberi> dli: 'ubotu, kernel-package is blah blah blah'
[03:53] <chris85c> hello
[03:53] <Drac|Win> My Ubuntu installation is running a LOT slower than it should with a 600MHz processor. X.Org is, anyway. Text is unnoticeable.. because it's text. Anyway, can somebody help?
[03:53] <Jimmey__> Can ifup work on a ra0 interface
[03:53] <Poker> i have kubuntu...and everytime i type ./configure i have this error "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[03:53] <Poker> someone can help me ?
[03:54] <dli> Jimmey__, yes, if it's set in interfaces
[03:54] <Jimmey__> dli, how can I check
[03:54] <Jimmey__> dli, never mind
[03:54] <dli> Jimmey__, less /etc/network/interfaces
[03:54] <bimberi> Poker: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[03:54] <Hfuy> apt doesn't seem to think that "mplayer-386" exists
[03:55] <Poker> thanks bimberi
[03:55] <dli> Hfuy, apt-cache search
[03:55] <bimberi> Poker: yw :)
[03:55] <Omas> hey, im trying to compile my sound drivers but when i run the configure script i get "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:55] <Omas> "
[03:55] <Omas> how can i fix it?
[03:56] <bimberi> Hfuy: it's in the multiverse repository, which isn't enabled by default ...
[03:56] <bimberi> !tell Hfuy about multiverse
[03:56] <Hfuy> I see.
[04:00] <Hfuy> I think I know how to do that
[04:00] <dli> Omas, do you have gcc? "gcc -v"
[04:00] <Omas> gcc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[04:00] <dli> Omas, anyway, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:00] <bimberi> Hfuy: if not, ubotu's /msg should help
[04:00] <BlueEagle> morimando: You can start the program you're editing with with the 'LC_ALL=iso8859-1' before it. ie: LC_ALL=iso8859-1 pico
[04:00] <Rayman> Hey how could I preview icomplete mp4g files on ubuntu?
[04:00] <Rayman> mpeg4
[04:00] <BlueEagle> morimando: that will give you iso8859-1 charmap in that program (provided it's locale aware, which most programs are)
[04:00] <Omas> dli, thx
[04:00] <munzir> Hi, I did apt-get upgrade in a terminal and closed it while it's working now I want to bring it to foreground so from ps I know it's job number. I did fg %29197 but it's telling me no such job!
[04:00] <munzir> Rayman: mplayer
[04:00] <amphi> Rayman: mplayer?
[04:00] <Rayman> munzir: I get an error message saying seek failed.
[04:00] <Hfuy> Okay, I enabled universe and multiverse, and mplayer is installing.
[04:00] <munzir> Rayman: try mplayer -idx yourfile.mp4
[04:00] <Rayman> the file's non-continous
[04:00] <Rayman> tried that too
[04:00] <johannes> i have several programs which require a libc6 version >2.3.6-6, but the current version of libc6 seems to be 2.3.2.dsl-20ubuntu14. what can i do?
[04:00] <munzir> Rayman: maybe the file is missing essential parts from it's header
[04:00] <Hfuy> Somehow, this machine has generated an FTP link to a server called Indigobox, which I really wanted to be a windows file and print type connection, presumably through Samba.
[04:00] <Rayman> munzir: hmh. bummer. ty anway.
[04:00] <Omas> i dont know if this is the right place , but what the h*ll when i run the "make" command after i have configured the make script i get http://pastebin.com/715268
[04:00] <hyphenated> munzir: jobs are only relevant to the shell they were started in.
[04:01] <munzir> hyphenated: Umm! so how can I bring it now so I see the ouput?
[04:01] <hyphenated> munzir: you've already closed the shell, so you can't
[04:02] <dli> Omas, install gcc-3.[234] , remove gcc-4.*
[04:02] <Omas> k
[04:02] <munzir> hyphenated: but i know it's running now on the background since du /var/cache/apt shows files are getting downloaded
[04:02] <BlueEagle> morimando: however, I could not find how to make it system wide. Perhals LC_ALL=iso8859-1 /bin/bash
[04:03] <BlueEagle> perhaps*
[04:03] <Hfuy> Can I get Ubuntu to recognise Windows style hostnames, as in "ping foobox" rather than "ping 111.222.333.444"
[04:03] <hyphenated> munzir: that's fine, but you can't attach your new terminal to it after detaching it from a different terminal
[04:03] <Larsson-Sweden> Need help with aaxine! The only driver that works is the ASCI one. Want to run it with vidixfb, but it says: "error occured during PCI-scan: operation not permitted" and "libdha: Can't open /dev/dhahelper"
[04:03] <Morimando> hm perhaps ^^
[04:03] <harisund> Hfuy you could put it in your /etc/hosts file and then use ping foolbox
[04:03] <spectie> what is the package for the xfs kernel module in dapper ?
[04:03] <Morimando> can that do damage if i try it?
[04:03] <Hfuy> harisund: There's no auto resolution of that sort of thing?
[04:03] <harisund> Does anybody here know how to purge software that was compiled from source?
[04:04] <munzir> hyphenated: that's sad. this is maybe why some one come with that tool "screen"
[04:04] <dli> Hfuy, it's called DNS
[04:04] <hyphenated> munzir: yup :-)
[04:04] <harisund> Hfuy: I doubt it. You will have to manually add the names of the machines, or the DNS server that you are connecting to should know it
[04:04] <harisund> dli beat me.
[04:04] <BlueEagle> harisund: /etc/hosts is where you can assign names to ip adresses.
[04:04] <tjb891> ok, i have a Belkin 802.11g USB adapter, how do I get that to work with Ubuntu?
[04:04] <Hfuy> dli: Sure, but it doesn't seem to be working
[04:04] <BlueEagle> harisund: sorry, nick completion error
[04:05] <harisund> BlueEagle :)
[04:05] <Hfuy> And the DNS is my ISP's DNS server.
[04:05] <hyphenated> munzir: now they need to find a way to save a shell state and load it later, for all those times when you didn't start a screen session and wish you had ;-)
[04:05] <Hfuy> So it won't know about my home network...
[04:05] <Omas> dli, how i just get "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[04:05] <Omas> "
[04:05] <harisund> hyphenated they do?
[04:05] <Omas> now*
[04:05] <BlueEagle> hfuy: try /etc/hosts unless you've got a ton of machines.
[04:05] <dli> Hfuy, you run your own DNS, or simply put them in /etc/hosts :( as you were already told
[04:05] <hyphenated> harisund: has someone done it already?
[04:05] <munzir> hyphenated: yes ;)
[04:05] <Hfuy> Bleargh, that's not great.
[04:06] <harisund> hyphenated I thought you knew about saving the state and loading it lated.
[04:06] <Innocent_Strange> plz any one can help me ...how can i establish networking among compyter using windows 98 and server using ubuntu
[04:06] <Hfuy> Next thing.
[04:06] <hyphenated> harisund: of a shell that hasn't been started inside screen.. no, how's that done?
[04:06] <dli> Omas, reinstall your gcc-3.* packages
[04:06] <spectie> Innocent_Strange, apt-get install samba
[04:06] <harisund> *later.. nevertheless, I have a line in my .bashrc that always loads me onto a screen session whenever I log in.
[04:06] <Hfuy> I can see one of my windows servers from Ubuntu, but when attempting to access \\ubuntubox\ via Windows, there's issues.
[04:06] <hyphenated> nono, that's cheating ;-)
[04:06] <Hfuy> It seems to attempt to log on to "localhost.localdomain" for some reason.
[04:07] <Hfuy> I can log onto my Windows servers fine
 plz i dont understand u
[04:07] <Hfuy> (from other windows servers)
[04:07] <dura> Hfuy, edit /etc/sambe/smb.conf
[04:07] <grogoreo> for some reason on my iAUDIO mp3 player when I try to delete the trash folder .Trash-grogoreo it puts the mounted hard drive of the player to read only. I haven't a clue why it's doing this. I've had it since last Christmas and it was fine. It doesn't go 'read-only' on windows but windows does have some problems deleting some of the folders files as does linux saying something about input and output
[04:07] <Khamael> how do I get an Olympus E-500 to work in ubuntu?
[04:07] <Omas> dli, i still get it
[04:07] <Morimando> Hm how do i manually load de_DE@Euro? maybe that helps
[04:07] <dura> make sure encrypted passwords are enabled, check the workgroup name
[04:07] <kevin> hi,i'm kevin
[04:08] <harisund> hyphenated, it would be nice to have a method of saving a shell session as is for later restoration. I don't knwo of any method that claims to do that yet. But I like my line in the .bashrc file :)
[04:08] <harisund> Does anybody here know how to purge software that was compiled from source?
[04:08] <dli> Omas, "ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*"
[04:08] <kevin> i am really a fresher in linux
[04:08] <hyphenated> grogoreo: one of the mount options is probably errors=remount-ro
[04:08] <dura> then make sure passwords are set for the windows user name and that the ubuntu server has the same username/password
[04:08] <kevin>  are there anyone help me ?
[04:08] <Omas> dli, i made a symlink from gcc-3.4 to gcc :)
[04:08] <dura> smbpasswd
[04:08] <kevin> i can not paly .mp3 file
[04:08] <hyphenated> grogoreo: you should be able to guess what that does ;-)
[04:09] <Omas> im a total n00b :)
[04:09] <dura> kevin, Hang on I have a link for you
[04:09] <munzir> !mp3
[04:09] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:09] <munzir> kevin: !mp3
[04:09] <dura> kevin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:09] <grogoreo> hyphenated, I've looked in fstab and there's nothing about my IAUDIO
[04:09] <dura> too slow lol
[04:10] <hyphenated> harisund: screen sessions interferes with a few things for me, so I don't want them all the time. but alas, once a week I get stuck in something that makes me wish I could go back in time and run it in screen ;-)
[04:10] <McNutella> !tell me about samba
[04:10] <Hfuy> I can edit smb.conf all day but it won't explain why I can see one win server but not another.
[04:10] <Hfuy> And no it isn't a firewall issue.
[04:10] <harisund> hyphenated do you have an xample of something that screen interferes with?
[04:10] <grogoreo> hyphenated, well I've just done: $ mount and found this line:   /dev/sda1 on /media/IAUDIO type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8) doesn't seem to halt on errors
[04:10] <Omas> dli, now i get http://pastebin.com/715282
[04:10] <dura> Hfuy, Like I said you have to use smbpasswd to add the users on the ubuntu box for samba
[04:10] <hyphenated> harisund: crtl-a to get to the start of the line. shift+pgup to scroll up
[04:11] <harisund> hyphenated: oh ok ok ..
[04:11] <Innocent_Strange> plz any one can help me ...how can i establish networking among compyter using windows 98 and server using ubuntu
[04:11] <kevin>  sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:11] <kevin> Reading package lists... Done
[04:11] <kevin> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:11] <kevin> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:11] <bbrazil> Innocent_Strange: are you trying to share files between them?
[04:11] <Hfuy> dura: I didn't have to do that for win box A. Why is it different for win box B?
[04:11] <McNutella> Innocent_Strange: you have already been told
[04:11] <hyphenated> harisund: I use those about once a minute ;-)
[04:11] <dura> kevin, Read the right section of the howto
[04:11] <harisund> hyphenated, in what software?
[04:11] <harisund> hyphenated: i mean, which text editor?
[04:11] <Innocent_Strange> ya
[04:11] <Innocent_Strange> bbrazil
[04:11] <dura> Hfuy, Is this a windows xp box?
[04:12] <dura> Hfuy, Everytihng before windows xp didn't use encrypted passwords and stuff.
[04:12] <Hfuy> The one that works is.
[04:12] <dura> Trust me I run a  samba server here.
[04:12] <Hfuy> The other one is 2K, which as far as I know runs similarly.
[04:12] <Innocent_Strange> bbrazil plz help me
[04:12] <bbrazil> dura: eeeh, 98 uses hashed passwords
[04:12] <hyphenated> harisund: bash shell, konsole.
[04:12] <dura> Hfuy, Does the 2K box has a password set for the user account? Does it match the samba servers users name/password?
[04:12] <Innocent_Strange> what i should dp for networking bbrazil
[04:13] <kevin> hold on,i have a question to u guys,have u ever heard of CDC software?
[04:13] <dli> Omas, can you pastebin the source file for  /root/alsa-driver-1.0.4/kbuild/../acore/hwdep.c:33: error: parse error before st ring constant
[04:13] <hyphenated> grogoreo: sorry, that was the only sensible idea I had
[04:13] <bbrazil> Innocent_Strange: can you ping the systems?
[04:13] <McNutella> can I use samba with bluetooth ?
[04:13] <dura> brb
[04:13] <Hfuy> dura: It isn't giving me any opportunity to set samba passwords
[04:13] <bbrazil> McNutella: if it supports IP, I can't see why not
[04:13] <hyphenated> grogoreo: you could fsck it I suppose to check for errors
[04:13] <Hfuy> if it was asking for a username/password, I'd give it one - but it isn't. There's not even an icon to click on.
[04:13] <Omas> dli, 2sec
[04:13] <McNutella> so where is samba kept once I install it, isn there a GUI for it ?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> !samba
[04:14] <ubotu> from memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[04:14] <kuja> Funny, I just got done configuring samba :)
[04:14] <bbrazil> McNutella: there's SWAT, but the last time I checked (~5 years ago) it was a HCI nightmare
[04:14] <dura> Hfuy, You have to use smbpasswd
[04:15] <dura> Thats the 3rd time I've told you that
[04:15] <bbrazil> McNutella: /etc/samba/smb.conf is the file you want
[04:15] <dura> Not everything is point-n-click
[04:15] <kuja> smbpasswd -a your_username
[04:16] <McNutella> bbrazil: thank you, and Ill leave swat for now LOL
[04:17] <BockBilbo> hello
[04:17] <BockBilbo> whats the proper way to configure the system path?
[04:17] <Khamael> has anybody gotten an Olympus E-500 to work i ubuntu?
[04:17] <BockBilbo> with bashrc?
[04:18] <hastesaver> BockBilbo, export PATH=...
[04:18] <BockBilbo> hastesaver, i know that
[04:18] <harisund> Does anybody here know how to purge software that was compiled from source? When I do the make install it places various files in various directories on my file sytem :(
[04:18] <BockBilbo> the issue is that i want it to load by default
[04:18] <Omas> dli, http://pastebin.com/715298
[04:18] <dura> BockBilbo, Yes ~/.bashrc
[04:18] <hastesaver> BockBilbo, put that in your .bashrc, it will load by default. Or do you mean something else?
[04:19] <dura> EXPORT is temporary
[04:19] <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! How do I hear mms streams?
[04:19] <McNutella> bbrazil: i guess samba starts automatically
[04:19] <dura> BockBilbo, btw Jackson is startingf work on The Hobbit :)
[04:19] <bbrazil> McNutella: should do
[04:19] <dura> McNutella, /etc/init.d/samba start | restart | stop
[04:19] <hastesaver> dura, oh, you mean I don't have to write EXPORT for my .bashrc lines? That's true; I just write EXPORT out of force of habit :)
[04:19] <BockBilbo> hastesaver, dura but, will the configuration run when loging in to my user gnome desktop?
[04:20] <McNutella> thank you dura
[04:20] <dura> No you don't hehe
[04:20] <dura> BockBilbo, Yes
[04:20] <hastesaver> BockBilbo, when you start the terminal, yes.
[04:20] <dura> After making the changes log out and back in...
[04:20] <BockBilbo> yeah
[04:20] <dura> should be good to go
[04:20] <BockBilbo> thats the point
[04:20] <BockBilbo> i dont want to start the terminal
[04:20] <dura> You won't have too
[04:20] <BockBilbo> ok
[04:20] <BockBilbo> lets try
[04:20] <dura> Just log out and back in and the new path will be used.
[04:21] <dura> path(s)
[04:21] <BockBilbo> (im configuring jmf for programing)
[04:21] <dli> Omas, do you have linux-headers ?
[04:21] <BockBilbo> thanks dura, hastesaver
[04:21] <Omas> dli, yes
[04:21] <Omas> linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[04:22] <dli> Omas, and for your kernel version?
[04:22] <Omas> yes
[04:22] <Omas> linux 2.6.12-10-386
[04:22] <dura> np
[04:23] <BockBilbo> dura, hastesaver i dont have a .bashrc file on my user home, should i create it?
[04:23] <dura> I have soime good stuff on http://duralinux.no-ip.org if anyone wants to check it out
[04:23] <hastesaver> BockBilbo, Files beginning with a . are "hidden", maybe it already exists
[04:23] <dura> BockBilbo, It's a hideen file in your home///
[04:23] <hastesaver> BockBilbo, but if it doesn't exist, create it
[04:23] <dura> BockBilbo, So type nano -w ~/.bashrc
[04:23] <dli> Omas, and you have build-essential?
[04:23] <BockBilbo> ...
[04:23] <dura> BockBilbo, Or you can use /etc/bashrc
[04:23] <BockBilbo> i know its hidden...
[04:23] <dura> either or will do the same thing
[04:24] <BockBilbo> ;)
[04:24] <BockBilbo> ok
[04:24] <BockBilbo> ill configure the /etc/bashrc
[04:24] <dura> I'd suggest making one in your ~/
[04:24] <BockBilbo> so i make it all user accesible
[04:24] <_jason> BockBilbo: there is a default one that should get created in /etc/skel/.bashrc
[04:24] <dura>  /etc/bashrc is system wide.. eg. for all users.
[04:24] <dura> ~/.bashrc is just for your user...
[04:24] <hastesaver> BockBilbo, it's safer to mess with your own files than to affect the systemwide installation.. how many users do you have, anyway?
[04:24] <dura> Exactly
[04:24] <Omas> dli, yes
[04:25] <dura> I have 22 users on one of my server...
[04:25] <thoreauputic> dura: /etc/bash.bashrc in Debian/Ubuntu
[04:25] <BockBilbo> dura, are them phisical users?
[04:25] <BockBilbo> wow
[04:25] <BockBilbo> xD
[04:25] <dura> BockBilbo, Well... they log in via ssh
[04:25] <BockBilbo> i see
[04:26] <BockBilbo> i am the only server on both my server and my laptop
[04:26] <BockBilbo> anyway
[04:26] <dura> A bunch of people from the Yahoo chat room LFS:1 use it for sharing stuff, and also a few of us are working on some web sites..
[04:26] <dura> WE built a site for the chat room too
[04:26] <dura> http://lfs1.no-ip.org
[04:26] <dura> That runs on a Ubuntu server
[04:26] <dura> My site runs on a Slackware box
[04:27] <dura> and i'm using Gentoo right now lol
[04:27] <BockBilbo> mine on ubuntu
[04:27] <dura> This laptop dual-boots Gentoo and Ubuntu
[04:27] <dli> Omas, sorry, I don't know how to debug then :( I'm not running ubuntu myself
[04:27] <dura> My other laptop boots doze and Ubuntu
[04:27] <Omas> dli, okay thx for all your help
[04:27] <BockBilbo> mine does so, i need doze for engeneering programs.. sucks
[04:28] <dura> What programs?
[04:28] <dura> I do some engineering too
[04:28] <dura> mechanical engineering
[04:28] <linux_galore> yeah Linux has some comercial engineering apps now
[04:28] <dura> There are some pretty nice apps
[04:28] <dura> for linux
[04:28] <dura> just as powerful as autocad
[04:28] <dura> if not better actually...
[04:28] <BockBilbo> Agilent ADS, for instanc
[04:29] <BockBilbo> *instance
[04:29] <linux_galore> autocad is getting a bit crusty
[04:29] <dura> eeos!
[04:29] <dura> eeps
[04:29] <dura> hehe
[04:29] <BockBilbo> xD
[04:29] <dura> sup?
[04:29] <linux_galore> dura: not much
[04:29] <dura> I thought I was the only one who came here...
[04:29] <grogoreo> I've just tried to do fsck on my mp3 player and it picks up three errors. The first says that there are differences between my boot sector and its backup. I told it to copy the backup to the origional and vise-versa and it comes back when I repeat the test. Then it says the 'FATs' differ and tried both the first and second and still it comes back. Then it says there a free clusters and lists files on my drive (that i had problems deleted earlier) an
[04:29] <grogoreo> d I say to correct it but nothing happens. It even says "Leaving file system unchanged."
[04:29] <dura> linux_galore, Seen the lfs1 website yet?
[04:30] <linux_galore> dura: Ive got lfs
[04:30] <linux_galore> but I havent got a clue what lfs1 is
[04:30] <Hfuy> Hmm. Won't play embedded quicktime, but then that's expected.
[04:30] <dura> linux_galore, i mean for the yahoo chat room
[04:31] <dura> linux_galore, http://lfs1.no-ip.org
[04:31] <dura> root_of_all_evil and I are working on it.. I'm hosting it
[04:31] <dura> I'm also hosting duralinux.org, and a site for 000_kane_ooo
[04:31] <Hfuy> Is there any way of getting Firefox to play embedded quicktime under Ubuntu?
[04:31] <dura> err ooo_kane_ooo
[04:31] <BockBilbo> _jason, im going to copy the bash template at /etc/skel/.bashrc on my home directory, is that ok?
[04:32] <dura> Hfuy, Good question... check that howto I posted earlier on restricted formats?
[04:32] <linux_galore> Hfuy: use wine
[04:32] <hastesaver> Hfuy, One way is mplayerplug-in and mplayer
[04:32] <Hfuy> Well no, if I'm going to use wine, I'll just use windows.
[04:32] <linux_galore> Hfuy: or try openquicktime
[04:32] <hastesaver> Hfuy, another way is totem-gstreamer-plugin, which I'm not sure is nice
[04:32] <Hfuy> We have the mplayer plugin, but it doesn't seem to work all that well.
[04:32] <chris85c> hello, what is the package name of the gui library wxpython?  anyone know so i can install it?
[04:32] <dura> openquicktime works well
[04:32] <Hfuy> It's failed to run real media.
[04:32] <dura> Chri[s] , ncurses
[04:32] <linux_galore> Hfuy: ?? you dont have to install windows to sue wine
[04:32] <linux_galore> use*
[04:33] <Hfuy> Anyway it's not important, we didn't expect to have this stuff work.
[04:33] <Hfuy> What I did expect to work was samba...
[04:33] <dura> Hfuy, Want a copy of my smb.conf file to look at?
[04:33] <dura> I can toss one up for you...
[04:33] <Hfuy> I doubt it'd mean much to me
[04:33] <linux_galore> Hfuy: did you initiate the setup with swat
[04:33] <dura> Hfuy, You could cp it to /etc/samba and edit it to fit your needs
[04:33] <samuli> hfuy, is the problem with samba logging in?
[04:34] <dura> linux_galore, originally helped me get samba working like 5 years ago
[04:34] <linux_galore> Hfuy: I usually start my setup of samba by running swat then I just edit the samba.conf file for the more complex stuff
[04:34] <dura> maybe I should have lol
[04:34] <Hfuy> The issue is that I can log into one windows machine but not the other, and I can't see Linux from Windows at all.
[04:34] <samuli> there really should be gui to configure samba.
[04:35] <linux_galore> dura: saves allot of time
[04:35] <dura> eeps, can you get into yahoo?
[04:35] <samuli> wouldn't be too hard to make either.
[04:35] <linux_galore> samuli: yes there is its called swat
[04:35] <samuli> oh, right.
[04:35] <linux_galore> samuli: its even on the samba home page
[04:35] <samuli> but something with like all the options.
[04:35] <dura> eeps, well the last samba setup I did took about 5 minutes... but it wasn't very complicated... just file and print sharing...
[04:35] <dura> no roaming profiles or anything
[04:35] <dura> or NIS etc.
[04:35] <Hfuy> Also I am stuck with this FTP connection to a machine that doesn't run an FTP client
[04:35] <linux_galore> samuli: swat has 90% of the stuff you need
[04:35] <dura> Hfuy, Can you get ssh access?
[04:35] <siriusnova> hello
[04:36] <Hfuy> to what
[04:36] <samuli> linx_galore, thanks. Gonna check that up.
[04:36] <dura> the ftp server
[04:36] <dura> ssh > ftp
[04:36] <samuli> call me lazy, but I generally don't like editing text files.
[04:36] <dura> and it's secure
[04:36] <siriusnova> when i add 2 repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list and run aptitude update i get the following:
[04:36] <siriusnova> Get:2 http://xgl.compiz.info dapper Release.gpg [191B] 
[04:36] <siriusnova> Ign http://www.beerorkid.com dapper/main Packages
[04:36] <Hfuy> I don't want to FTP
[04:36] <Hfuy> I have no interest in FTP
[04:36] <siriusnova> its ignoring the repos
[04:36] <siriusnova> why?
[04:36] <Hfuy> it just randomly created an FTP connection when I tried "connect to server"
[04:36] <dura> Hfuy, You just said you had ftp access with no ftp client
[04:36] <Hfuy> I'd love to get rid of it
[04:36] <dura> ohh
[04:36] <dura> my bad
[04:37] <revartj> hello
[04:37] <Hfuy> I have no access, I have an icon that says "indigobox" with an FTP icon
[04:37] <revartj> i have to problem
[04:37] <dura> Hfuy, Use ssh then... it's just like logging into the machine on site
[04:37] <gnomefreak> siriusnova: ise pastebin and paste the full output of sudo apt-get update please
[04:37] <Hfuy> use ssh to do what
[04:37] <samuli> i thought the ign: was pretty normal.
[04:37] <dura> Hfuy, The server you want access too
[04:37] <eugman> Some of you should checkout ubuntu.wordpress.com It has some useful hints and answers to questions that come up on here occasionally
[04:38] <Hfuy> To do what to the server I want access to?
[04:38] <siriusnova> gnomefreak - http://pastebin.com/715331
[04:38] <linux_galore> Hfuy: open konqueror type  fish://192.168.etc.etc  or  fish://joeblogs@192.168.etc.etc
[04:38] <revartj> i have that insert to module in the kernel and saw this -->
[04:38] <revartj> insmod: can't read 'dvbinput.so': No such file or directory
[04:38] <linux_galore> Hfuy: no brainer ssh file management front end
[04:38] <BockBilbo> whats the difference between exporting avariable or not in bash?
[04:38] <dura> yeah Konqueror is handy also
[04:38] <Hfuy> I need it to talk to a windows network.
[04:38] <Hfuy> You know. For file sharing.
[04:39] <Hfuy> Nothing to do with SSH or FTP.
[04:39] <dura> BockBilbo, Exporting is temporary
[04:39] <BockBilbo> i mean, for instance: export PATH=$PATH:/home/user/bin or classpath=/home/user/javaclasses
[04:39] <BockBilbo> dura, how temporal?
[04:39] <dura> BockBilbo, the exported path will stay until you logout
[04:39] <gnomefreak> siriusnova: its hitting them fine but you dont have ubuntu repos in your list?
[04:39] <BockBilbo> i see
[04:39] <linux_galore> Hfuy: I use a thing called smb4k to connect to windows shares from Linux
[04:40] <siriusnova> gnome- i dont see their packages in synaptic
[04:40] <BockBilbo> so, for the path, should i use export or not?
[04:40] <Hfuy> I can connect to my XP box but not 2K
[04:40] <siriusnova> the XGL and COmpiz packages dont show up
[04:40] <linux_galore> whereis smb4k: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/search.php
[04:40] <Hfuy> And I can't connect from Windows to Linux at all
[04:40] <Hfuy> I have no idea why, I have changed no settings
[04:40] <Larsson-Sweden> I have compiled mplayer, and there is no xv video driver!
[04:40] <Larsson-Sweden> No fullscreen.
[04:40] <revartj> helop
[04:40] <linux_galore> Hfuy: use putty to do that
[04:40] <gnomefreak> siriusnova: you need all repos enabled not just those 2
[04:41] <dura> eeps, can you get into lfs:1 ?
[04:41] <BockBilbo> siriusnova, #ubuntu-xgl
[04:41] <siriusnova> BockBilbo thx
[04:41] <dura> I hope The Hobbit is finished soon
[04:41] <linux_galore> dura: yes
[04:41] <dura> eeps, What client?
[04:41] <pvd2000> running linux out of ram is pretty fast:)
[04:41] <linux_galore> dura: gaim
[04:42] <Ahmuck> i am having problems with adept and the installation of a package
[04:42] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: did you download the package
[04:42] <Hfuy> do I just assume ubuntu simply can't talk to older versions of windows
[04:42] <dura> Hfuy, No
[04:43] <dura> It can
[04:43] <BockBilbo> thanks for everything
[04:43] <BockBilbo> :)
[04:43] <linux_galore> Hfuy: no more along the lines of Microsoft keeps changing things
[04:43] <BockBilbo> bye
[04:43] <Ahmuck> yes, i am trying to install plone.  it however says it has a BREAK package.  the package it conflicts is plone2.  however there is no plone2
[04:43] <dura> Hfuy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[04:44] <mustard_>   /window unbind #ubuntu
[04:44] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: if you download a package your basically not going to have ti working in 80% of cases
[04:44] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: use the package manager
[04:44] <Hfuy> That how-to tells me to install Samba.
[04:44] <Hfuy> I must already have Samba for it to talk to the XP box.
[04:44] <dura> and how to set it up too
[04:44] <Ahmuck> i have been using the package manager.  adept
[04:45] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: you havent if you downloaded a package
[04:45] <Kr0ntab> Hfuy, you need to make sure yer win2k has file and print sharing installed... along with the NetBios protocol installed.
[04:45] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: the package manager does that
[04:45] <dura> you could use dpkg -i foo.deb
[04:45] <Hfuy> Kr0ntab: The windows network talks amongst itself fine
[04:45] <Ahmuck> BREAK (install)
[04:45] <Kr0ntab> and follow instructions from the page dura game you
[04:45] <linux_galore> dura: he has broken deps
[04:45] <dura> ohh
[04:45] <Hfuy> Neither XP nor 2K can talk to Linux. Linux can talk only to XP.
[04:45] <Hfuy> That is the situation.
[04:45] <Ahmuck> conflict prone2
[04:45] <Ahmuck> replaces plone2
[04:46] <Hfuy> In the workgroup, the 2K box does not appear.
[04:46] <dura> Hfuy, If you're not going to read that howto you'll never get things working. We're not going to read the howto for you.
[04:46] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: basically you have downloaded a package that needs other packages to work, but the problem is you already have "newer" packages installed so it wont install anyway
[04:47] <tam> hi all, i'm having a problem with my us2 hdd. it was being recognised a few days ago but then stopped working. i have it formated as ext3 and dmesg reports the following when I plug it in but when i try and mount it with mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/big it can't find it and the same happens when i try and see if fdisk sees it. anyway here is the dmesg part of the log:[4434409.979000]  usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[04:47] <Ahmuck> recomended zope-speedpack
[04:47] <Ahmuck> but there is not zope-speedpack listed in adept
[04:48] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: did you add multiverse to apt
[04:48] <Ahmuck> so do i install plone by hand ?
[04:48] <Ahmuck> yes
[04:48] <CuriousCat> has anyone tried using the driver from ATI for the x1400?
[04:48] <Hfuy> is there some inherent incompatibility with 2K I need to know about?
[04:48] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: well your only option is to build from source
[04:48] <Ahmuck> i thought the package manager was supposed to do this
[04:48] <siccness> CuriousCat: Sometime tomorrow I'll be giving it a shot.
[04:49] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: no the package manager wont install "old" packages with "old dependencies" because it breaks your install
[04:50] <Kr0ntab> hfuy... to get it going you need to make sure all the correct protocols are installed and configured properly.  that includes tyhe XP/2k and linux hosts...
[04:50] <Ahmuck> does this means there is no package for plone for dapper at this time ?
[04:50] <Ahmuck> linux_galore: at least i understand now why it is breaking, because of an old package
[04:50] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: have you gone to the plone home page
[04:51] <Kr0ntab> Hfuy, there are no compatability issues with win2k
[04:51] <Hfuy> OK, I can now access the 2K box.
[04:51] <Ahmuck> linux_galore: i have
[04:51] <Hfuy> It appears in the workgrounp "workgroup", which is not the workgroup it is actually in.
[04:51] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: sometimes the project guys create packages for download for specific distro's
[04:51] <Hfuy> It's actually in the workgroup "production"
[04:51] <megaman123> hi all...installing ubuntu for the first time (linux newbie) and my target is to get vdr to run with nexus-s dvb card ...anyone here familier can help?
[04:51] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: well your going to have to build from source
[04:51] <Ahmuck> i wanted to do it through adept, yes i can build from source, but i was hoping to do all software installation through adept
[04:51] <CuriousCat> siccness, would you let me know if it worked and how you did it?
[04:52] <linux_galore> Ahmuck: I want 1 million dollars doesnt mean I will get it
[04:52] <Ahmuck> :-p
[04:52] <siccness> Sure can/will.
[04:52] <siccness> Although I'll be following a tutorial available on ubuntuforums.org
[04:52] <CuriousCat> siccness, the docs seem to state it's good for fedora/red hat, but doesn't say anything on ubuntu/debian.
[04:52] <CuriousCat> siccness, oh? could you point me to it?
[04:52] <siccness> Sure can champ, hang on a sec.
[04:53] <lufis> How can I change the permissions of an entire directory's contents?
[04:53] <Hfuy> I really don't mean to be pejorative here, but why is it so insanely tricky to set Samba up to allow incoming shares?
[04:53] <siccness> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[04:53] <bon_> is there anyway to troble shoot ./configure make install
[04:54] <ketsugi> Hfuy: it isn't
[04:54] <CuriousCat> siccness, coolness! Thanks for the tip. Will look into it now. :)
[04:54] <ketsugi> Places > Connect to server
[04:54] <ketsugi> select Windows Share
[04:54] <ketsugi> and enter the info
[04:54] <ketsugi> and you're in.
[04:54] <siccness> Too easy :)
[04:54] <CuriousCat> also, has anyone tried to make this modem work: HDAUDIO SoftV92 Data Fax Modem with SmartCP
[04:54] <ketsugi> or you could add a line to your /etc/fstab to automount it
[04:54] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: is it use or serial
[04:54] <Kr0ntab> megaman123, vdr has a precompiled package in ubuntu...
[04:55] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: is it USB or serial
[04:55] <megaman123> Kr0ntab: any pointers ???
[04:55] <Hfuy> Where does Samba get its native workgroup name?
[04:55] <CuriousCat> linux_galore, uhm... it's integrated into my laptop. :)
[04:56] <nny>  how do i disable the ubuntu start up splash screen for diagnostics
[04:56] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: aaah, bet its a software modem so your shit out of luck
[04:56] <Kr0ntab> so.. once yer linux installation is complete... you will have to make sure you have the universe repositories configured... install vdr... and yer good
[04:56] <muep> megaman123, have you enabled the universe and multiverse repositories
[04:56] <siccness> Yeah, sounds like a challenge to me CuriousCat.
[04:56] <muep> ?
[04:56] <lufis> How can I set the permissions of an entire drectory's contents? I right clicked on the directory through the gui and changed the permissions, but it only changes permissions of the directory instead of all of the files in the dir
[04:56] <manux> some one tested to upgrade from breezy to dapper dist?? is there a big difference between ???
[04:56] <ketsugi> chmod -r I think
[04:56] <megaman123> Im still installing
[04:57] <_jason> lufis, ketsugi: chmod -R
[04:57] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: most laptops use software based devices to save money, down side is there OS specific
[04:57] <ketsugi> well
[04:57] <lufis> _Jason, thank you muchly!
[04:57] <ketsugi> chmod --help usually tells me what I need to know ;p
[04:57] <siccness> I appreciate that too _jason :)
[04:57] <_jason> lufis: be careful with that command, make sure you really want to give everything the same permissions
[04:57] <lufis> _jason: ok
[04:58] <manux> some one already upgrade from breezy to dapper??
[04:58] <muep> megaman123, configuring repositories is almost the first thing to do after install
[04:58] <muep> manux, many have
[04:58] <megaman123> ok
[04:58] <manux> i m running breezy .... is there a real difference between both dists
[04:58] <manux> ?
[04:58] <micktm> someone uses a wireless network? How can I see tha available networks, and how to connect them?
[04:59] <ketsugi> manux: yup
[04:59] <ketsugi> there's a huge difference
[04:59] <ketsugi> but since it's already mid may, you might as well wait for the final release in June
[04:59] <muep> a lot newer packages in dapper
[04:59] <manux> wich is better do you think
[04:59] <manux> ?
[04:59] <linux_galore> manux: between breezy and ??
[04:59] <manux> yes
[04:59] <muep> dapper is better for sure
[04:59] <manux> i m not shure if i upgrade to it
[04:59] <fdr> i need to write a program in lisp... can you please suggest me an editor for gnome that does auto indenting/syntax hilight for lisp? No, I don't like (x)emacs.... :-)
[04:59] <siccness> I'm looking forward to Dapper.
[04:59] <muep> manux, if not sure, wait
[04:59] <manux> i found a tutorial http://www.macewan.org/2006/02/23/upgrading-breezy-to-dapper/
[05:00] <samuli> My upgrade from breezy to dapper didn't went too well.
[05:00] <Hfuy> I'm presuming playing back embedded quicktime 7 is a "forget about it" under Ubuntu
[05:00] <linux_galore> manux:  dapper flight 6 works fine for me
[05:00] <nny> circular dependency exiting on booting the kernel
[05:00] <nny> anyone wanna decipher that?
[05:00] <manux> but i m not shure if it works whithout complication to upgrade to it
[05:00] <muep> the upgrades to beta often don't go so well
[05:00] <siccness> I got an error like that before, nny..
[05:00] <manux> i don t wan t to newly install my inux
[05:00] <siccness> Were you trying to do anything with apt-get?
[05:00] <muep> but a fresh install from a beta cd has beed reliable for me
[05:00] <nny> siccness on dapper after package upgrade
[05:00] <samuli> manux, best bet is not to upgrade then.
[05:00] <siccness> Hmm, not sure then.
[05:01] <nny> siccness did apt-get upgrade, and apparently a apckage is not happy
[05:01] <Kr0ntab> ubotu, tell Hfuy about restricted formats
[05:01] <manux> you think i should newly install every thing if ...
[05:01] <linux_galore> samuli: happens, sometimes better to do a fresh install, thats why I always make a /home  partition so i can flush an install and do a fresh update but lose none of my users stuff
[05:01] <siccness> nny, yeah thats where I got my error, it was because I had synaptic open at the same time.
[05:01] <Kr0ntab> ah frick.. need to get that syntax down
[05:01] <Kr0ntab> nvmd
[05:02] <Hfuy> Hnn. Now on trying to access the 2K box, it just circularly asks me for a password over and over again
[05:02] <muep> manux, I think you could upgrade when dapper is ready
[05:02] <manux> isn't it  not totaly ready yet ?
[05:02] <muep> manux, it's still beta
[05:02] <manux> ok
[05:02] <linux_galore> manux: technically no, but it works
[05:02] <manux> maybe i wait
[05:03] <CuriousCat> linux_galore, yeah. but then at least it isn't ac97. It's Conexant, which is why i'm wondering if this would work this time around
[05:03] <manux> thanks for help
[05:03] <muep> I think the human icon theme in dapper used to have yellow/orange arrows for navigating in nautilus and epiphany... now they are gone :(
[05:04] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: connextant stuff is always a problem because they use software to hide the fact the chips are pretty crappy and cheap
[05:04] <muep> tangerine theme still has yellow arrows... I wonder if they will return to human, too...
[05:04] <Hfuy> So you're telling me that in these days when you can get an mp3 player in a box of cornflakes, there isn't one in Ubuntu
[05:04] <muep> Hfuy, there is
[05:04] <siccness> Hfuy: Licensing issues, i believe.
[05:04] <Hfuy> There's one in Windows
[05:05] <muep> Hfuy, it is just not installed as default
[05:05] <Hfuy> there's one in [long list of OSs] 
[05:05] <linux_galore> Hfuy: not by default but if you run the easyubuntu script it will setup the stuff needed to play mp3's among other things
[05:05] <nny> aiight... someone got enough skill in here to help with a kernel panic?
[05:05] <Hfuy> Mrrrnngh.
[05:05] <muep> Hfuy, just install the codecs
[05:05] <muep> it's not that hard
[05:05] <linux_galore> Hfuy: the mp3 media format is actually a licensed standard owned by Thomson
[05:05] <Hfuy> I know.
[05:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell Hfuy about mp3
[05:05] <Hfuy> So?
[05:05] <Hfuy> Licence it
[05:05] <muep> Hfuy, it's expensive
[05:05] <muep> will you pay it for me?
[05:05] <Hfuy> Not that expensive.
[05:05] <_jason> Hfuy: ubuntu is a free distribution, thus why it isn't included by default
[05:06] <linux_galore> Hfuy: you have to pay for it
[05:06] <Hfuy> I would gladly pay for Ubuntu if it worked better.
[05:06] <Hfuy> So there you go
[05:06] <siccness> Pfft...
[05:06] <muep> it works great, just needs a bit work
[05:06] <_jason> Hfuy: free not in the money sense
[05:06] <linux_galore> Hfuy: there is a Ubuntu thing for codecs were you can buy them
[05:06] <YoussefAssad> question, what repo is the linux-restricted-modules in? I need it for my atheros wireless chipset (madwifi)
[05:06] <muep> the best thing in ubuntu is freedom
[05:06] <_jason> Hfuy: install gstreamer0.8-mad as the page ubotu sent you to explains and you play mp3's
[05:07] <Hfuy> I'm assuming quicktime is a no-no
[05:07] <Kr0ntab> ~sigh~... it works fantastic.. you just need to know more about how things work before attempting them
[05:07] <siccness> muep: I think the community and support that you receive from Ubuntu enthusiasts is probably the best thing about it.
[05:07] <linux_galore> Hfuy: depends , I use openquicktime
[05:07] <nny> so kernel panic, anyone?
[05:07] <muep> siccness, they are important, too
[05:07] <siccness> There's like 10 forums just for Ubuntu alone, it's great :)
[05:07] <_jason> Hfuy: you can play quicktime... I like to use mplayer with w32codecs
[05:07] <esj> that's part of the problem with the free over all.  I use mp3 because I can get cheap portable devices (i.e. under $100) to play music on.  I prefer ogg but that is partially supported on a limited number of expensive devices
[05:07] <Kr0ntab> win32codecs... mplayer.. and mozilla-mplayer
[05:08] <nny> ok which one is for kernel panics?
[05:08] <_jason> ubotu: tell Hfuy about mplayer
[05:08] <munzir> YoussefAssad: isn't better to add universe and multiverse so you don't need to find which one?
[05:08] <_jason> ubotu: tell Hfuy about w32codecs
[05:08] <Hfuy> mplayer we got
[05:08] <Hfuy> but it doesn't play embedded QT7
[05:08] <dli> nny, be specific to get help, or get out of here
[05:08] <nny> uboto: show nny where the advanced ubuntu forums are
[05:08] <Kr0ntab> tats because you need w32codecs
[05:08] <linux_galore> Hfuy: complain to apple
[05:08] <linux_galore> Hfuy: apple hasnt released anything for Linux
[05:09] <Kr0ntab> and the appropriate plugin
[05:09] <YoussefAssad> munzir: Hm, I think I do have (uni|multi)verse added, but I can't find the linux-restricted-modules packages in there...
[05:09] <Hfuy> How come they can't put it in the distribution, but I can download it for free?
[05:09] <_jason> Hfuy: !free
[05:09] <_jason> !free
[05:09] <ubotu> hmm... free is Free as in free software = free as in freedom. For more info visit:http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[05:09] <muep> Hfuy, they have licenced it that way
[05:09] <linux_galore> YoussefAssad: get the easyubuntu  script it does all that for you
[05:10] <nny> dli ok "kernel panic: circular dependancy" after apt-get upgrade with dapperf light 3
[05:10] <Hfuy> Odd thing: if I set a filetype (mp3) to play with VLC, it plays with VLC.
[05:10] <Kr0ntab> haha ubotu rocks
[05:10] <YoussefAssad> linux_galore: will look into that. Thanks!
[05:10] <Hfuy> But if I try to play it over a samba share, it pops up in Totem.
[05:11] <linux_galore> YoussefAssad: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[05:11] <YoussefAssad> linux_galore: Thanks a mill :)
[05:11] <Hfuy> Why would it handle a filetype differently depending on its source?
[05:13] <SonOfMoog> yay, I made it! .. anybody home?
[05:14] <BockBilbo> hello again
[05:15] <munzir> YoussefAssad: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-386
[05:15] <munzir> !repositories
[05:15] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:15] <Falluccer> hey
[05:15] <Falluccer> I was trying to install it and it came up with an error
[05:16] <Falluccer> something with uncompressing
[05:16] <Falluccer> ERR 1
[05:16] <sonasks> hello, i wan to mae complete backup of my system, by sending all the durectories through scp to other machines, what directories should i exclude ??
[05:16] <siccness> How odd, nautilus won't open :|
[05:16] <pez> hi fellow ubunters, i was wondering if its possible to record video streams to video files? i'm wanting to record streams of the apprentice (from the BBC UK web site) to mpg
[05:17] <SonOfMoog> Sounds like you might have a bad DVD, Falluccer - did you check it?
[05:18] <Hfuy> "Element doesn't implement handling of this stream"
[05:18] <Hfuy> "Please file a bug"
[05:18] <Hfuy> ...when playing DVD with VLC
[05:18] <linux_galore> pez: yeah mplayer can dump a stream to a file
[05:19] <Falluccer> no i didn't
[05:19] <pez> can i do with Xine as i removed MPlayer as it plays my DVDs really jerky and choppy
[05:19] <Falluccer> and its a cd
[05:19] <micktm> Hi! where Can I find kwifi to install on my ubuntu?
[05:19] <linux_galore> pez: if you watching a stream via a browser the file will be cached in the browsers tmp folder
[05:19] <johannes> i'm trying to get gnomba working, but if i double click on a pc to see the shares it asks me for a username and password, but wen i try to login with anonymous or guest it doesnt work, a username which has a account on the windows pc doesnt work, too, any ideas?
[05:19] <Falluccer> are you shure its a bad cd
[05:20] <SonOfMoog> I think there is a boot option to check the files on the CD .. boot into the help menu and look for it ..
[05:20] <nny> how do i exclude a package from aptitude or apt-get?
[05:20] <nny> i am getting errors on gnome file roller shared dependency with gnome ico themes
[05:20] <SonOfMoog> No - might also be a bad (dirty) drive .. if you have a disk cleaner, might be worthwhile to run it ..
[05:20] <Falluccer> could it be because I have a fat32 partition on my drive
[05:20] <pez> what's the address of my browser's (firefox) tmp folder?
[05:21] <Falluccer> I just reformatted the hard drive
[05:21] <SonOfMoog> if that doesn't work, I suggest you re-download  and re-burn the ISO .. I'm in the middle of doing that myself with kubuntu
[05:21] <linux_galore> pez:  hmm not sure might be either under ~/./tmp  or ~/./mozilla/firefox/
[05:22] <BockBilbo> any of you has managed to run sun's JMF  for JAVA on ubuntu?
[05:22] <Falluccer> should I not have a partition on my drive
[05:22] <siccness> Hey guys, Nautilus is not opening (it attempts to but fails - no error msg), I also tried right mouse clicking the trash icon to empty it but it does not succeed. Any ideas?
[05:22] <linux_galore> BockBilbo: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[05:22] <fdr> i need to write a program in lisp... can you please suggest me an editor for gnome that does auto indenting/syntax hilight for lisp? No, I don't like (x)emacs.... :-)
[05:22] <BockBilbo> linux_galore, im talking about JMF, not java itself
[05:22] <SonOfMoog> I don't think that will make any difference, but I'm not expert on ubuntu
[05:23] <ryness> heya... does wine work in ubuntu or is there something else to run windows apps?
[05:23] <siccness> WINE works.
[05:23] <ryness> is there anything better?
[05:23] <SonOfMoog> not open source
[05:23] <C-O-L-T> Do you know when comes Novell's famous Linux Desktop 10 out?
[05:23] <ryness> ahh
[05:23] <ryness> thanks
[05:24] <hybrid> ryness: will you be gaming?
[05:24] <Hfuy> VLC won't play DVDs.
[05:24] <Hfuy> But gxine will.
[05:24] <Hfuy> Duh?
[05:24] <madmike> ryness: there is also qemu
[05:24] <ryness> hybrid: i'm thinking about it... wanted to test it out.
[05:24] <Falluccer> so you say check the files with the help before the installation
[05:24] <SonOfMoog> yes
[05:24] <Falluccer> o
[05:25] <ryness> madmike, i'll checkout qemu thz
[05:25] <ryness> thx*
[05:25] <hybrid> ryness: well cadega is better for gaming, and it can be compiled from source for free
[05:25] <Trip348> Hi, I'm a newb, wants to get started with ubuntu. Current setup is C: 10GB With XP and D: 70GB Stuff with 13GB available. Both are NTFS and the D drive have at least 7 GB of free unoccupied space at the very end of the drive. How do I go forward to install Ubuntu on a new partition?
[05:25] <madmike> ryness: qemu won't support 3d acceleration
[05:25] <madmike> ryness: go with wine first
[05:25] <hybrid> Trip348: do you wish to dualboot?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> Trip348,  you got 1 hard drive? or is D: its own hard drive?
[05:25] <Trip348> yesw
[05:26] <Trip348> One drive
[05:26] <C-O-L-T> Do you know when comes Novell's famous Linux Desktop 10 out?
[05:26] <mustard_1> Trip348 the 7GB free space is enough if you want
[05:26] <Trip348> Laptop with one 80GB
[05:26] <Trip348> god
[05:26] <Trip348> good
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> i had a laptop with a uber-slow 100gb hd... once..
[05:26] <Trip348> Can the ubuntu install resize the D partition (NTFS)
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Trip348,  it is wise to backup all imporntant stuff first.
[05:27] <mustard_1> Trip348 yeah if necessary
[05:27] <Trip348> It is, all my music docs and more is on the D drive
[05:27] <mustard_1> Trip348 it will want to break the 7gigs up into two partitions..
[05:27] <mustard_1> Trip348 one partition for the system and one for a swap partition
[05:28] <Trip348> what does the swap do?
[05:28] <linux_galore> anyway time for bed
[05:28] <mustard_1> Trip348 sort of like the swap file in windows, but a partition instead
[05:28] <pez> thanks linux_galore
[05:28] <pez> night
[05:28] <Hfuy> any ideas why VLC is failing to play DVDs
[05:28] <Trip348> mustard_1:  ok
[05:29] <pez> Hfuy, how is it failing?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> Hfuy: you installed libdvdcss2 ?
[05:29] <Trip348> mustard_1: Should be double the Ram size right?
[05:29] <ryness> is it difficult to compile cadega from source (never compiled something)
[05:29] <pez> Hfuy, blank screen? no sound?
[05:29] <Hfuy> Hang on
[05:29] <mustard_1> Trip348 correct
[05:29] <Hfuy> Testing
[05:29] <mustard_1> Trip348 but not strictly necessary
[05:30] <SonOfMoog> I'm in Ubuntu 5 live - and the only display resolution I have is 640 x 480 - I don't have this problem running Knoppix live .. any suggestions?
[05:30] <mustard_1> Trip348 if you have lots of RAM its unlikely to every get used much
[05:30] <Trip348> Is it possible to use the NTFS partition for Read/write or should I, start calling friends to borrow an external drive to copy and make it a Fat partition in stead?
[05:30] <Hfuy> "DVDread demuxer error: DVDread cannot open source"
[05:30] <ketsugi> Trip: it's possible
[05:30] <Trip348> mustard_1: 512MB
[05:30] <Hfuy> main input error: no suitable access module for DVD://
[05:30] <ketsugi> search for "ntfs fuse" on the ubuntu wiki
[05:30] <spacey> Trip348: i recommend the second option
[05:30] <ketsugi> I have read/write access on my ntfs partition now
[05:31] <mjr> Trip348, possible, but cumbersome. Recommend converting if you have the friends you were talking about. ;)
[05:31] <mustard_1> Trip348 linux won't be able to write to the ntfs partition..it will read it just fine
[05:31] <YoussefAssad> bloody cool, this easyubuntu...
[05:31] <mustard_1> ketsugi strictly speaking though its still experimental
[05:31] <Trip348> so it is possible, but cumbersome and not recomended while thinking of perfomance and me being a newb?
[05:32] <mjr> Trip348, especially the newb bit
[05:32] <siccness> Woops, haha, accidently had mprime running twice for 48hrs
[05:32] <siccness> great :|
[05:32] <ketsugi> performance isn't really an issue unless you're gonna be using that partition a ot
[05:32] <ketsugi> a lot
[05:32] <ketsugi> in which case, go with FAT32
[05:32] <Trip348> I have all my music on it
[05:32] <Trip348> pretty much all my files
[05:32] <pez> Hfuy, I had the same error but with Totem. Try installing gxine. Once installed it worked. It works better for as the DVD playback is not choppy nor jerky
[05:33] <mustard_1> Trip348 I think the issue is going to be that you already have two primary partitions...and there is a limit of four primary partitions, so after ubuntu breaks the last free space into two more partitions you will be at your limit of primary partitions
[05:34] <mustard_1> Trip348 a second hard drive or a bit of a rethink on how you are going to set up your drive in the future might be something to consider.  For now though you have enough space to try it out.
[05:34] <Trip348> mustard_1: The d drive is a logical wrapped in an extended partition
[05:35] <mustard_1> Trip348 ah!  ok
[05:35] <mustard_1> Trip348 well thats pretty good then :D
[05:35] <SonOfMoog> I'm in Ubuntu 5 live - and the only display resolution I have is 640 x 480 - I don't have this problem running Knoppix live .. any suggestions?
[05:36] <mustard_1> Trip348 ubuntu will automatically partition the free space for you with the installer
[05:36] <Trip348> okay
[05:36] <mustard_1> SonOfMoog you could get to a terminal prompt and reconfigure xorg.conf
[05:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell SonOfMoog about fixres
[05:36] <SonOfMoog> I'm listening ..
[05:36] <mustard_1> SonOfMoog read the message from ubotu
[05:37] <mustard_1> SonOfMoog there should be a link to follow...
[05:37] <Morbid_Angel> No way to watch DVDs under linux?
[05:37] <_jason> !dvd
[05:37] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[05:37] <mustard_1> Morbid_Angel sure there is :)
[05:37] <Skeletonix> How can I get Mac adress from my computer which is on windows Os?
[05:37] <SonOfMoog> got it, thanks - I'll be AFK for a bit
[05:37] <Skeletonix> I need for magick packets
[05:37] <Morbid_Angel> ok was following the ubuntuguide.org for dvd playback but the apt-get fails
[05:37] <_jason> Skeletonix: you are on windows now?
[05:37] <Hfuy> No DVD in VLC then.
[05:37] <mustard_1> SonOfMoog k good luck
[05:37] <Hfuy> Has anyone eve rgot it working?
[05:37] <Skeletonix> yes
[05:37] <chaos_of_apocaly> can someone tell me what program there is to make flash animations?
[05:37] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[05:37] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[05:38] <mustard_1> Morbid_Angel the ubuntuguide is a bit dated now...its for Hoary Hedgehog 5.04
[05:38] <Morbid_Angel> ok.  It was the highest google link though =)
[05:38] <Skeletonix> Terminal server client ;)
[05:38] <mustard_1> Morbid_Angel try the wiki for more up to date stuff
[05:38] <_jason> Skeletonix: this isn't really a windows support channel but I believe you can run ipconfig, maybe ipconfig /a ro whatever the switch is
[05:38] <Trip348> mustard_1: Thanks for the help, I'll go looking for an external drive to borrow now then.
[05:38] <_jason> Skeletonix: s/ro/or
[05:39] <mustard_1> Trip348 k
[05:39] <Hfuy> how do I remove a symlink
[05:39] <Skeletonix> _jason: ?
[05:39] <_jason> Hfuy: rm
[05:39] <_jason> Skeletonix: ?
[05:40] <Skeletonix> _jason:   s/ro/or
[05:40] <chaos_of_apocaly> can someone tell me what program there is to make flash animations?
[05:40] <_jason> Skeletonix: oh it means subsitute ro with or, since I made a typo
[05:40] <Skeletonix> if i try ipconfig /all there is a lot of adress ..and which is MAC:)
[05:40] <Hfuy> why is the way VLC plays DVDs different to the way xine does it?
[05:41] <hybrid> Hfuy: they are different programs
[05:41] <_jason> Skeletonix: physical address
[05:41] <Hfuy> You'd have assumed there'd be a standard method for, you know, reading filesystems...
[05:41] <Morbid_Angel> HWaddr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx is the MAC from ifconfig
[05:41] <hybrid> Hfuy: it isnt reading a filesystem it is reading an image
[05:41] <linxeh> hi there, I'm having some problems upgrading firefox with synaptic / apt-get - I'm getting errors such as "cp: cannot overwrite non-directory `/usr/lib/firefox/././res' with directory `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/./res'" - is there any way to fix that ?
[05:41] <Skeletonix> yes but there is HW adres for NIC,DNS...
[05:42] <chaos_of_apocaly> can someone tell me what program there is to make flash animations?
[05:42] <chaos_of_apocaly> in linux
[05:43] <hybrid> Hfuy: if everything was made the same there would be ni reason for linux
[05:43] <megaman123> how do you run something using root while being another user
[05:43] <mustard_1> chaos_of_apocaly I don't know whether there is much in the way of flash authoring software iinux
[05:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell megaman123 about sudo
[05:43] <linxeh> chaos_of_apocaly, : you can use FlashMX in WINE
[05:43] <Abountu> megaman124: try sudo
[05:43] <chaos_of_apocaly> i dont understand wine
[05:43] <Hfuy> Has anyone here got VLC to play DVDs?
[05:43] <linxeh> chaos_of_apocaly: crossover office makes wine easy - might be worth a look
[05:43] <ryness> when is Dapper supposed to be production read?
[05:44] <megaman123> thanks :) sorry but very new here
[05:44] <chaos_of_apocaly> croosover?is it in synaptic?
[05:44] <linxeh> no. it is commerical software.
[05:44] <linxeh> www.codeweavers.com
[05:44] <Abountu> no worries.. I'm new too ;-)
[05:44] <berciol> hi :)
[05:44] <muep> ryness, first of june
[05:44] <chaos_of_apocaly> commercial=pay
[05:44] <Morbid_Angel> I use Crossover from Codeweavers.  It's worth the cost
[05:44] <linxeh> chaos_of_apocaly: Flash is commercial software.
[05:45] <muep> Hfuy, i've used totem
[05:45] <linxeh> chaos_of_apocaly: if you want to author proprietry, platform dependent media formats on the web (such as shockwave and flash) you are likely going to have to pay for them. FlashMX is going to set you back a *lot* anyway, so why worry about a few bucks on crossover office?
[05:45] <Hfuy> gxine works
[05:45] <Hfuy> but I prefer VLC
[05:45] <linxeh> what an idiot :/
[05:45] <Hfuy> It's giving an arcane error message
[05:46] <snakels> hola
[05:46] <linxeh> I'm having some problems upgrading firefox with synaptic / apt-get - I'm getting errors such as "cp: cannot overwrite non-directory `/usr/lib/firefox/././res' with directory `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/./res'" - is there any way to fix that ?
[05:46] <muep> totem has worked well for me, dunno about vlc though, sorry :(
[05:46] <Hfuy> VLC offers the option, but fails with "dvdread demuxer error: DVDread cannot open source"
[05:47] <b4sh> yo
[05:47] <Hfuy> "main input error: no suitable access module for DVD://"
[05:47] <we3za> hello
[05:47] <we3za> how ar e you guys
[05:47] <we3za> ?
[05:48] <we3za> i am newbie in linux
[05:48] <_jason> we3za: hello
[05:48] <we3za> i would like to update my kernel
[05:48] <_jason> linxeh: can you pastebin the whole output and the command you are using please?
[05:48] <linxeh> sudo apt-get install linux-image-i686
[05:48] <linxeh> _jason: ok
[05:48] <we3za> thanl you
[05:48] <Hfuy> Gurhn, this samba howto is nuts - it doesn't match my smb.conf#
[05:49] <muep> we3za, that only installs an optimized kernel for you
[05:49] <muep> we3za, why updating?
[05:49] <we3za> it said it couldnt find the package
[05:49] <iratsu> how well does ubuntu run on the mac mini?
[05:49] <we3za> because i read in the article that there is some flaw inside the current kernel
[05:49] <muep> we3za, which version uf ubuntu are you running?
[05:49] <Morbid_Angel> How can you tell which "version" of ubuntu is installed?
[05:49] <linxeh> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13913
[05:50] <we3za> 5.10
[05:50] <muep> we3za, ubuntu has security updates added
[05:50] <we3za> thanks jason
[05:50] <_jason> Morbid_Angel: lsb_release -a
[05:50] <Morbid_Angel> ah thankies.
[05:50] <Abountu> I have some difficulties accessing /sdb1, I tried chmod 777, it's giving me the error : " chmod: changing permissions of `sdb1': Read-only file system
[05:50] <Abountu> "
[05:50] <simp> !gui
[05:50] <ubotu> simp: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:50] <linxeh> _jason: I just let the automatic package updater run, and it failed on firefox telling me to run "sudo apt-get -f install", which give me similar errors
[05:50] <Abountu> how can I get read write access to ntfs disks?
[05:50] <brandon> Abountu: is that a usb key?
[05:50] <_jason> linxeh: you're using dapper?
[05:50] <muep> we3za, you most probably don't need to worry, just install the updates as usual
[05:50] <linxeh> Abountu: with difficutly
[05:50] <we3za> so can i just do sudo apt-get update
[05:51] <muep> yes
[05:51] <linxeh> _jason: yes - this box was installed from flight6 CD, and upgraded
[05:51] <Abountu> is a hard disk connected through ide/usb adapter
[05:51] <_jason> linxeh: k, let's continue in #ubuntu+1 though since that's the dapper channel
[05:51] <linxeh> ah sorry
[05:51] <drcode> hi all
[05:51] <brandon> Abountu: and it's an ntfs hdd?
[05:51] <Abountu> yes
[05:52] <linxeh> write access to NTFS is still dodgy
[05:52] <drcode> any one mybe know software that can mount drive of ssh?
[05:52] <Abountu> (or fat .. not sure)
[05:52] <brandon> Abountu: you're SOL
[05:52] <drcode> in linux/windows?
[05:52] <linxeh> you can do it, but its dangerous
[05:52] <Morbid_Angel> Best not to write to ntfs partitions ...
[05:52] <linxeh> there is a driver somewhere I saw that uses the Microsoft ntfs driver from winxp, which might help maybe
[05:52] <brandon> Abountu: you can read/write fat32, but not ntfs
[05:52] <linxeh> brandon: you can write ntfs, but its dangerous
[05:53] <brandon> linxeh: i know. it would be irresponsible of any of us to recommend it
[05:53] <linxeh> :)
[05:53] <Abountu> ok I'm doing chmod 555 and still it's givign the same error
[05:53] <Abountu> chmod: changing permissions of `sdb1': Read-only file system
[05:53] <brandon> Aboutnu: it's mounted as read-only
[05:53] <drcode> I prefer ssh
[05:53] <drcode> its faster
[05:54] <linxeh> Abountu: even if chmod would remount the filesystem, 555 would be read only for everyone
[05:54] <Abountu> in fstab it is mounted this way
[05:54] <Abountu> hmod: changing permissions of `sdb1': Read-only file system
[05:54] <Abountu> sorry
[05:54] <brandon> Abountu: try the command "sudo fdisk -l" that will give you a list of filesystems and their type
[05:54] <Abountu> /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[05:55] <ike> Can anyone tell me if Drake going to have suspend support?
[05:56] <ketsugi> Dapper does have suspend support
[05:56] <zenwhen> indeed
[05:56] <ketsugi> I've just gotten suspend working on my laptop today
[05:56] <ike> Great, thanks for the info.
[05:57] <anzio_> hey guys, I just installed the DivX codec for Linux and can't find the DivX player nor play an avi in Totem
[05:57] <anzio_> can anyone help me out?
[05:57] <anzio_> !divx
[05:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:57] <siccness> VLC
[05:57] <brandon> anzio_ what *sigh* engine are you using?
[05:58] <anzio_> brandon total dumb noob here, by engine you mean version of Ubuntu?
[05:58] <zenwhen> hey brandon why are you being so rude about helping someone
[05:58] <zenwhen> anzio_: you need to install totem-xine
[05:58] <anzio_> ah thx
[05:58] <zenwhen> sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[05:58] <anzio_> big time thanks
[05:59] <zenwhen> no problem
[05:59] <CuriousCat> if i'm to enable smp, this is what i'm supposed to get, right? ==> linux-686-smp
[05:59] <brandon> zenwhen: it's not rudeness. it's exasperation with the whole "restricted formats" garbage
[05:59] <samuli> why does ubuntu ship with gstreamer.
[05:59] <Morbid_Angel> I'm also working from the RestrictedFormats but getting errors that the packages can't be found
[05:59] <zenwhen> I am enjoying the same application now. Ill be happy to know that you can do the same.
[05:59] <samuli> xine is better in just about everything.
[05:59] <Morbid_Angel> even after enabling the other repositories
[05:59] <Romme> ubuntu is great
[05:59] <mustard_1> Morbid_Angel have you enabled universe and multiverse repos?
[05:59] <Morbid_Angel> yep
[05:59] <mustard_1> Morbid_Angel k
[05:59] <Morbid_Angel> and did apt-get update
[05:59] <mustard_1> Morbid_Angel did you sudo apt-get update after enabling?
[06:00] <mustard_1> hehe
[06:00] <mustard_1> k
[06:00] <siccness> lol
[06:00] <Morbid_Angel> Not a total noob ;)
[06:00] <JinRoh> Hello, Anyone with AMD64 has FIrefox with GPL Flash (or something like gpl flash) working? I don't want to have a chroot :/
[06:00] <mustard_1> what packages are coming up missing?
[06:00] <Abountu> what should I do, if I can't hear sounds in  mpg and avi files, I can see movie though...
[06:00] <Morbid_Angel> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[06:00] <_jason> Morbid_Angel: are you using dapper?
[06:01] <Morbid_Angel> and also gstreamer0.10-gl
[06:01] <Morbid_Angel> no still on breezy
[06:01] <samuli> :
[06:01] <_jason> Morbid_Angel: gstreamer0.10 is only on dapper
[06:01] <Morbid_Angel> lol
[06:01] <Morbid_Angel> Ya know I just reread that
[06:01] <samuli> you need 0.8 libraries.
[06:01] <brandon> Abountu: what are you using to play the files?
[06:01] <mustard_1> heh
[06:01] <kubus> gstreamer0.8 is for breezy
[06:01] <Morbid_Angel> Ok back to total noob status
[06:01] <mustard_1> breezy doesnt use that version of gstreamer
[06:01] <siccness> lol
[06:01] <Morbid_Angel> yeah pasted the wrong line
[06:01] <_jason> heh
[06:01] <mustard_1> :)
[06:02] <Morbid_Angel> someone smack me ... it's still early
[06:02] <Hfuy> I'm going to assume that the idea of making this laptop hibernate and resume under Ubuntu is "Haaa, ha ha ha!"
[06:02] <claymore666> hey all, i see that there is quake II for linux on this webpage, http://www.icculus.org/quake2/#download but what style/ type do i download for ubuntu ? :(
[06:02] <Morbid_Angel> bad enough it took me 3 months to get my wireless working
[06:02] <mustard_1> Hfuy potentially :)
[06:03] <sstchur> anyone know if network-admin is available in xfcx/xubuntu?  I can't seem to get my wireless card going in xubuntu
[06:03] <|Sivik|> sstchur: what card is it
[06:03] <mustard_1> sstchur I believe its going to be added to xubuntu before release date for dapper
[06:03] <|Sivik|> sstchur: try wifi-radar
[06:03] <hohgch> anyone here using ubunutu server for freeRADIUS?
[06:03] <mustard_1> sstchur so the scuttlebut goes anyway
[06:04] <sstchur> Sivik:  It's a Dlink -- i'm using it now under ubuntu w/ gnome -- just can't get it working in xfce
[06:04] <Abountu> brandon .. thanks .. i found it.. more codecs where missing
[06:04] <Hfuy> Gah.
[06:04] <MetaMorfoziS> hey! i has a problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13914 this is when i start firefox from cmdline, it starts up and works fine, but often crashes - that why i tried to start from cmdline
[06:04] <|Sivik|> sstchur: network-admin seems to freeze alot in dapper
[06:04] <kubus> claymore666, look for "quake2" an "quake2-data" in the repos, i have not try this
[06:04] <Hfuy> Why does it use a different tool to open files over a network as it does to open them locally?
[06:04] <Abountu> (I'm using totem)
[06:04] <brandon> yeah no kidding
[06:04] <brandon> the "extra-codecs" package right?
[06:04] <kubus> claymore666, but it sounds good..
[06:05] <brandon> it should be listed as a dependency of totem-xine
[06:05] <sstchur> |Sivik|, Well network-admin seems to do the trick well for my card under gnome, is there a way I can see the conf files it's generating and then copy them for use with xfce?  I assume it's just configuring wpa_supplicant or something?
[06:05] <claymore666> thankyou kubus :)
[06:05] <claymore666> where exactly do i look? im fairly new to ubuntu
[06:05] <Hfuy> When I open media files such as AVI and MP3 over a samba share, Ubuntu always uses Totem to open them - and totem sucks.
[06:06] <kubus> claymore666, mom
[06:06] <Hfuy> If I try to open the same files from a local hard disk, it uses VLC, which is what I told it to use.
[06:06] <Hfuy> What's going on?
[06:06] <Larsson-Sweden> I need some help. I want to use the xv driver in mplayer, but that driver isnt on the list. I can use it in totem and xine, but not in mplayer.
[06:06] <claymore666> mom?? :S
[06:06] <mustard_1> Hfuy can you not right click on the file and choose which app to open them with?
[06:06] <kubus> claymore666, enable Multiverse Repositories, then you open synaptic and search for it
[06:06] <_jason> Larsson-Sweden: are you using mplayer from the repositories?
[06:07] <Hfuy> mustard_1: I have done that
[06:07] <Hfuy> Still it uses Totem
[06:07] <claymore666> kk
[06:07] <Hfuy> I wouldn't mind if Totem wasn't the can't-do player
[06:07] <Larsson-Sweden> _jason, no, it was compiled.
[06:07] <kubus> claymore666, oh sorry, it is a geram shortcut for wait a moment *g*
[06:07] <kubus> claymore666, german i mean
[06:07] <_jason> Larsson-Sweden: that's why
[06:07] <Morbid_Angel> Yay I can view media again =)
[06:07] <mustard_1> Hfuy maybe you could report it as a bug
[06:07] <Larsson-Sweden> _jason, fact is, i have a compiled mplayer, but i have also installed the on in the reps to get the mplayer-plugin.
[06:07] <Hfuy> Like they give a damn.
[06:08] <sstchur> |Sivik|, The thing about wifi-radar.... is xfce, my ath0 dev is not even active I don't think.  With network admin, I just activate it, choose my SSID and my key and I'm good to go -- I just want to somehow dupliate that process in XFCE
[06:08] <mustard_1> Hfuy I'm sure they do
[06:08] <Sti1> Use Slackware!!!
[06:08] <KaosX> mmmk
[06:08] <_jason> Larsson-Sweden: you were probably missing some dependencies to get xv output in mplayer, may want to find out what depend you need and recompile
[06:09] <KaosX> why not just apt-get install mplayer?
[06:09] <Hfuy> They don't give a damn that Toshiba laptops won't hibernate
[06:09] <_jason> yes, or that
[06:09] <Larsson-Sweden> _jason,  you know what? I have double mplayer installations. Tried the mplayer binary in /usr/bin and that one has the xv driver! :)
[06:09] <Hfuy> which is a huge, gigantic, major issue
[06:09] <JinRoh> Hello, Anyone with AMD64 has FIrefox with GPL Flash (or something like gpl flash) working? I don't want to have a chroot :/
[06:09] <Hfuy> they're hardly likely to care I can't play some MP3s :)
[06:09] <Larsson-Sweden> _jason, i want the command "mplayer" to link to the /usr/bin/mplayer , how can i change that?
[06:09] <anzio_> after installing totem-xine I cann't get totem to run, should I be running something besdies totem now?
[06:10] <Morbid_Angel> Now to test DVDs ...
[06:10] <KaosX> larsson: alias mplayer=' /usr/bin/mplayer'
[06:10] <mustard_1> Hfuy Totem opening when you choose a totally different application is something they might care about
[06:10] <_jason> Larsson-Sweden: your path probably list /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin so your computer is looking there first.  Is there any reason you want your compiled version now?
[06:10] <francesco_> #ita
[06:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell Hfuy about multimedia
[06:11] <mustard_1> Hfuy have you installed totem-xine?
[06:11] <Larsson-Sweden> _jason, how can i see wich binary the command "mplayer" links to?
[06:11] <Hfuy> I have gxine
[06:11] <_jason> Larsson-Sweden: which mplayer
[06:11] <anzio_> whats the terminal command for totem-xine? is it just old 'totem'?
[06:11] <KaosX> Larsson-Sweden go into terminal and run the alias command, itll overide whatever it is currently
[06:12] <Morbid_Angel> Yay DVDS!
[06:12] <Larsson-Sweden> _jason, ok thanks! So the crappy installation of mplayer is in /usr/local/bin , and the good one in /usr/bin ,
[06:12] <mustard_1> Hfuy totem-xine plays everything well on my system..bit cpu hungry..but everything works
[06:12] <Abountu> Does any one know how we configure Gaim to get it to show smileys?
[06:12] <Larsson-Sweden> _jason, how to link the command mplayer to /usr/bin/mplayer ?
[06:12] <Hfuy> what is totem-gxine?
[06:13] <Hfuy> I just have gxine, which seems widely compatible, without any connection to Totem
[06:13] <anzio_> mustard: whats the terminal command to get into totem-xine?
[06:13] <KaosX> Larsson-Sweden: alias mplayer=' /usr/bin/mplayer'
[06:13] <mustard_1> anzio_ I think its just totem
[06:13] <_jason> Larsson-Sweden: seems that way.  I would just remove the local installation you have, but you can alias it as KaosX suggests for a quick fix
[06:13] <anzio_> blah :(
[06:13] <anzio_> totems not working for me anymore
[06:13] <anzio_> it runs for a second or two then closes
[06:13] <kubus> anzio_, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[06:13] <Morbid_Angel> I just got totem working myself
[06:14] <anzio_> thx, jason directed me to it a bit ago
[06:14] <anzio_> installed it
[06:14] <dura> Or mplayer
[06:14] <KaosX> you can also whereis totem to see if it's already in your machine
[06:14] <Larsson-Sweden> Thanks!
[06:14] <KaosX> its most likely in /usr/bin
[06:15] <dura> or which totem
[06:15] <anzio_> when Totem-xine was installing I noticed something said "may cause problems, deleting anyway as per your request"
[06:15] <anzio_> thinking that might be it
[06:15] <_jason> anzio_: can you paste all the output onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a link?
[06:15] <Thug-N-Me> does anyone know how to burn  5 cds iso`s to dvd ?
[06:15] <Morbid_Angel> Thanks guys you've bene a great help!
[06:15] <mustard_1> anzio_ have you done anything unusual with your totem install previously?
[06:16] <mustard_1> Morbid_Angel np
[06:18] <Abountu> what does it mean when apt-get says "E: Couldn't find package w32codecs"
[06:18] <_jason> Abountu: it means exactly what it says really :)  w32codecs isn't in the repositories
[06:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell Abountu about w32codecs
[06:19] <high-freq> can someone help me out with this pcmcia card.....lspci isn't listing it and i dunno how to make it  show up
[06:20] <high-freq> my kernel is 2.6.15-22-k7
[06:20] <tonygeorge> hi  i have ran an update on my ubuntu breezy and now I cannot use X windows. anyone knows if it is possible to roll back an update?
[06:20] <rambo3> i bet you didnt start with mcmcia module
[06:20] <high-freq> tonygeorge: sometimes u need to rerun the  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:21] <tonygeorge> ok. i will try.
[06:21] <high-freq> rambo3: it does say somethin bout pcmcia on bootup
[06:21] <tonygeorge> high-freq, thank you. if it doesnt work, can i still roll back ?
[06:21] <high-freq> not too sure on rolling back
[06:22] <rambo3> high-freq: i would search ubuntu forums for answer
[06:22] <high-freq> rambo3: k
[06:22] <rambo3> tonygeorge:  roll back is just copy old xorg.conf as new
[06:23] <Calgar> hi, im new to linux (only just installed this hour) my package manager isnt working (saying it cant connect to server) is the server down, or am i doing somthing wrong?
[06:23] <tonygeorge> rambo3, but i didn't take a back up copy of it before running the update.
[06:24] <CuriousCat> would anyone know what in ubuntu i could use to lower the CPU speed?
[06:24] <dura> cpufreq
[06:24] <dura> CuriousCat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MataroSessionsWorkshops/CPUFreqModuleLoading?highlight=%28cpufreq%29
[06:27] <beruic> I have just formatted an etx3 partition and mounted it. Why does it say that there's half a gig used space when the damn thing is empty?
[06:27] <CuriousCat> dura, ah! thank you. :)
[06:27] <pall2>  Hi There,
[06:27] <pall2> How can I interact with the system when starting - i.e. choose which
[06:27] <pall2> init.dscript to start or not.
[06:27] <pall2> I put my own script into rc2.d, the system halts at my script when starting.
[06:27] <pall2> I cannot login =(
[06:27] <pall2> I also post my script below: ( it works before I put it into rc2.d)
[06:27] <pall2> > /etc/rs2.d/S99myownscript
[06:27] <pall2> #!/bin/sh
[06:27] <pall2> SCRIPT=/myownscript
[06:27] <pall2> [ -f $SCRIPT ]  && python $SCRIPT
[06:27] <pall2> > the python SCRIPT
[06:27] <pall2> #!/bin/env python
[06:27] <pall2> import os
[06:27] <beruic> NOT SO MANY LINES!!!
[06:27] <pall2> a = os.popen('iwlist ath0 scan').readlines()
[06:27] <dura> CuriousCat, yw
[06:27] <pall2> ...
[06:27] <pall2> ...
[06:27] <pall2> END
[06:27] <pall2> The error message is 'ath0 doesnt not support scan, network is down' =(
[06:27] <chamo> hello
[06:27] <dura> pall2, use pastebin ffs
[06:28] <pall2> dura: what's that
[06:28] <Hexaflouride> ...
[06:28] <dura> pall2, It's a site where you can post stuff
[06:28] <pall2>  How can I interact with the system when starting - i.e. choose which
[06:28] <pall2> init.dscript to start or not.
[06:28] <pall2> I put my own script into rc2.d, the system halts at my script when starting.
[06:28] <pall2> I cannot login =(
[06:28] <CuriousCat> !paste
[06:28] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[06:28] <dura> So remove the script
[06:28] <dura> boot into the system and fix it
[06:28] <pall2> i'm askin questions
[06:28] <pall2> i cannot boot into the system
[06:29] <komputer> hej
[06:29] <beruic> hej hej
[06:29] <dura> Boot a livecd and edit it
[06:29] <high-freq> listen up .....use that pastebin if your gonna paste more than 3 lines
[06:29] <komputer> co to jest??
[06:29] <high-freq> simple as that
[06:29] <rambo3> tonygeorge: ues whenever there is change of xorg buy ubuntu it makes a copy of config
[06:29] <beruic> I have just formatted an etx3 partition and mounted it. Why does it say that there's half a gig used space when the damn thing is empty?
[06:30] <dman_> im stuck with a (probably silly) mount question. i cant seem to be able to create any directories in a root mounted drive
[06:30] <dura> What kind of drive is it?
[06:30] <dura> Is it mounted read only?
[06:30] <tonygeorge> rambo3: i see. thank you very much. Hope this will work. :-)
[06:30] <beruic> dman_: Are you logged in as root?
[06:30] <high-freq> dman_: not even  sudo mkdir name_of_dir
[06:31] <rambo3> just list in /etc/X11/ and i think it makes a date time stampe on backup configs
[06:31] <pall2> In Madriva, you can press 'I' to interact with system when starting, choose yes|no for each init.d
[06:31] <Calgar> hi, im new to linux, when i start the package manager, i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13915 how do i fix it please?
[06:31] <pall2> i wonder whether i can do the same thing in Ubuntu
[06:32] <dura> Calgar, That means that the repository doesn't have what apt is looking for.
[06:32] <dman_> beruic, only as root can i write files on the mount
[06:32] <dura> Change to different repositories
[06:32] <BockBilbo> epas
[06:32] <BockBilbo> hey
[06:32] <Calgar> dura: how do i do that?
[06:33] <dura> Calgar, edit /etc/apt/sources/list
[06:33] <dman_> i want to write the files as a normal user high-freq,beruic
[06:33] <rambo3> !tell Calgar about repos
[06:33] <beruic> Calgar: Try hitting in some /'s instead of whitespecas after the domain name...
[06:33] <Calgar> dura: O_O
[06:33] <high-freq> dman_: ya create the dir with sudo...then chmod it or chown it
[06:33] <beruic> dman_: Log in as root and change the permissions
[06:33] <rambo3> !tell Calgar about easysource
[06:34] <siccness> high-freq: what would you say is more secure, chmod or chown? or no diff?
[06:34] <Calgar> i clicked that link and got Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/www.ubuntulinux.nl/public_html/content/php/source-o-matic.php on line 206
[06:34] <dura> siccness, They both do different things
[06:34] <dura> siccness, man chmod   and   man chown   to learn how to use them
[06:35] <hyphenated> siccness: the correct combination of those two is necessary to prevent the wrong person accessing files/directories
[06:35] <dura> chown shanges ownership... chmod shanges permissions
[06:35] <dman_> beruic, high-freq, ok the directory has been created by a  normal user, then after mounting the drive on it, the directory show root,root as user,group
[06:35] <dura> changes
[06:35] <siccness> yea i know how to use them
[06:35] <siccness> ok thanks
[06:35] <dura> If you knew how to use them you wouldn't has asked which is 'more secure'.
[06:35] <dura> Being they both do different things.
[06:35] <Larsson-Sweden> _jason, must i be root for the alias command to take effect?
[06:36] <high-freq> siccness: both are just changing permissions of the drive..either be it changing dif ownerships or changing read/write/global modes
[06:36] <samuli> to me it seems that chown is more secure.
[06:36] <beruic> I have just formatted a HD into one etx3 partition and mounted it. Why does it say that there's half a gb used space when the damn thing is empty and nothing shows up in the file manager (even with hidden files on)?
[06:36] <siccness> thanks samuli.
[06:36] <dura> chown changes ownership not permissions
[06:36] <hyphenated> people ask the "more secure" question to all sorts of silly things. at least this time it was something that loosely involved security ;-)
[06:36] <tonygeorge> on my system /dev/hdb9 is my ubuntu installation, is it possible to get a list of hard disk partitions on my computer? or I have to try to mount all of them and write down the valid ones?
[06:36] <dura> true
[06:36] <beruic> dman_: np
[06:36] <samuli> yeah, and when you're the owner you can set strict permissions for everyone else.
[06:36] <dura> tonygeorge, Do you want to see mounted partitions or all partitions?
[06:37] <tonygeorge> dura, all partitions.
[06:37] <samuli> instead of making it availabe for everybody to mess around.
[06:37] <dura> tonygeorge, fdisk/dev/hdb
[06:37] <hyphenated> tonygeorge: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda should list them all. or cat /proc/partitions
[06:37] <dura> then typ ep
[06:37] <dura> err type p
[06:37] <tonygeorge> .
[06:37] <beruic> Why doesn't anyone care to help me?
[06:38] <dura> Berge, I didn't see your question...
[06:38] <tonygeorge> dura and hyphenated thank you very much. you mean /proc/partitions will have all the partitions on my computer including windows partitions?
[06:38] <hyphenated> tonygeorge: yeah, but the output of fdisk -l is more readable
[06:39] <tonygeorge> hyphenated, ok
[06:39] <bluszcz_> hi
[06:39] <goldenratio> hi
[06:39] <McNutella> how do I have the bluetooth become detectable?
[06:39] <_jason> Larsson-Sweden: well the alias command only works for the user you set the alias for.  Removing your local copy is a better option imo
[06:39] <bluszcz_> what are sources.list for security?
[06:39] <hyphenated> beruic: put the output of 'df' and 'df -i' in a pastebin
[06:39] <bluszcz_> can anyone paste me?
[06:39] <bluszcz_> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[06:39] <bluszcz_> this one doesn't work
[06:40] <bluszcz_> can anyone paste me grep security /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:40] <hyphenated> bluszcz_: that's what mine says and it works fine for me
[06:40] <goldenratio> google it?
[06:40] <dura> bluszcz_, hybrid is trying to help you...
[06:40] <bluszcz_> hybrid: ?
[06:40] <goldenratio> hybrid horse?
[06:40] <hyphenated> dura: tab completion failed on both names there? :-)
[06:41] <dura> both?
[06:41] <McNutella> seems xp cant detect the bluetooth on ubuntu
[06:41] <dura> No I didn't press tab after I type hy heh
[06:41] <goldenratio> o.o
[06:42] <Abountu> now this is annoying me since sometime now: I'm trying to download skype, http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb and I'm getting an error : Xml parsing error: not well-formed ...
[06:42] <dura> Abountu, Can't just apt-get install skype ?
[06:42] <Abountu> let me try
[06:43] <hybrid> ssup?
[06:43] <Abountu> sudo apt-get install skype ??
[06:43] <Abountu> E: Couldn't find package skype
[06:43] <Abountu> ??
[06:43] <Abountu> how can I fix that?
[06:43] <dura> Abountu, Try sudo apt-cache search skype
[06:43] <rambo3> before you ask here type skype in ubuntu wiki
[06:43] <McNutella> someone help me create a bluetooth PAN between ubuntu and XP please?
[06:43] <beruic> dman_: Change the permissions for the mount
[06:44] <dura> well.... lunchtime... bbiab
[06:44] <hyphenated> Abountu: I just clicked that link and it tried to download the .deb for me
[06:44] <Abountu> I tried "sudo apt-get install skype" no return?!
[06:44] <beruic> hyphenated: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13916
[06:44] <hyphenated> Abountu: try using wget to download it instead. wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
[06:44] <Abountu> hphenated? what does that mean? something wrong with my firefox?
[06:44] <beruic> dman_: Did it work?
[06:44] <Abountu> ok let me see
[06:45] <hyphenated> Abountu: *shrug* possibly
[06:45] <hyphenated> beruic: and which one are you complaining about?
[06:45] <hyphenated> (which partition)
[06:45] <Abountu> what does *shrug* mean?
[06:46] <Abountu> wget did " http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb"
[06:46] <Abountu> and then
[06:46] <Abountu> Connecting to www.skype.com|1.0.0.0|:80.
[06:46] <Abountu> ...
[06:46] <Abountu> and still waiting
[06:46] <Abountu> is it downloading?
[06:46] <hyphenated> that's a bit screwed
[06:46] <Abountu> mmm
[06:47] <Abountu> what does it mean?
[06:47] <jose> hola
[06:47] <beruic> hyphenated: HDC. When I look at it in Gparted, disk management or the file manager, it's only 5.5 gb, it should be 6.04
[06:47] <dman_> no beruic, i cant write as a normal user, only with root priv
[06:47] <aLPHa_LeaK> Abountu, its basically saying that its trying to download from the local host
[06:47] <Abountu> local host?"
[06:48] <Abountu> why?
[06:48] <beruic> dman_: Try loading som files and dirs to the thing and change permissions for them...
[06:48] <aLPHa_LeaK> Abountu, maybe your dns server is screwed
[06:48] <Abountu> but I can connect to othe pages!
[06:48] <Abountu> in fact I could connect to skype as well
[06:49] <Abountu> and wget  succeeded resolving www.skype.com
[06:49] <Abountu> it's on ly the download
[06:50] <spazzz> Hello is anyone here framiliar with Firestarter?
[06:51] <spazzz> I need some help with Firestarter.  It's being a little more verbose than I'd like I was wondering if someone could help me
[06:52] <beruic> hyphenated: HDC. You found out something?
[06:52] <hyphenated> beruic: not yet
[06:53] <sstchur> does anyone know what conf file the gnome network-admin GUI writes to underneath the hood?  It would be very helpful if I could look at it
[06:54] <rob_p> sstchur:  Probably /etc/network/interfaces
[06:54] <hyphenated> beruic: can you put the output of 'tune2fs -l /dev/hdc1' in a pastebin?
[06:55] <beruic> hyphenated: 2 secs
[06:55] <beruic> hyphenated: You mean 'sudo tune2fs -l /dev/hdc1'?
[06:56] <hyphenated> I didn't need to use sudo
[06:57] <beruic> hyphenated: I did... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13917
[06:57] <sstchur> rob_p, thanks.... and do you know... if I were to copy that file into xubuntu, would that get my wireless working as it does under gnome?
[06:58] <BockBilbo> whats better, vnc or xdmcp?
[06:58] <beruic> hyphenated: Without sudo it says: Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock
[06:58] <hybrid> BockBilbo: vnc is more readily avaliable
[06:58] <BockBilbo> what do you mean by that?
[06:58] <beruic> hyphenated: ... and before that: Acces denied...
[06:59] <hyphenated> beruic: your user isn't in the 'disk' or 'admin' groups, I'm guessing
[06:59] <hybrid> BockBilbo: there are alot more VNC servers and clients
[06:59] <BockBilbo> oks
[06:59] <BockBilbo> thanks
[06:59] <hybrid> no problem
[07:00] <beruic> hyphenated: is that also what causes the half ghost gb?
[07:00] <hyphenated> nope
[07:00] <rob_p> sstchur:  Is your xubuntu install separate from your regular ubuntu install?  I'm not very familliar with xubuntu.  I'm assuming it's just ubuntu with another window manager or something?  Anyway, if it's one and the same install, you shouldn't have to change anything.
[07:01] <bruno> Can someone tell me how to update my firefox 1.0.8 to 1.5?
[07:02] <metatag> bruno : download firefox 1.5 for linux
[07:02] <Kr0ntab> !Firefox1.5
[07:02] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:02] <McNutella> metatag: not much help eh LOL
[07:02] <_jason> bruno: if you wait 2 weeks you will be able to upgrade to dapper and use the package manager
[07:03] <Lueinden> Dapper comes out in two weeks?
[07:03] <hyphenated> supposed to be released on 1 June
[07:03] <metatag> bruno : I belive you better update now. There were a number of vulnerabilities on 1.0
[07:03] <McNutella> whats special about the dapper ?
[07:03] <hyphenated> or something.
[07:03] <hyphenated> McNutella: it's the next release
[07:03] <ajo> !kubuntu
[07:03] <ubotu> [kubuntu]  Ubuntu+KDE  ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:04] <McNutella> hyphenated: I know its the next one, but whats special about it ?
[07:04] <Tinned_Tuna> hmm
[07:04] <BockBilbo> metatag, he doesnt need to update, he already must have the security fixes on it
[07:04] <Tinned_Tuna> I might write a script to do that update to FF1.5 thingy
[07:04] <hyphenated> McNutella: it's new and shiny? it's got more recent versions of all the packages?
[07:05] <hyphenated> I'm not really sure what answer you want :-)
[07:05] <metatag> bruno : http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.3&os=linux&lang=en-US
[07:05] <McNutella> hyphenated: oh then if its all shiny, we must wait.. im all excited at the thought ; )
[07:06] <McNutella> metatag: and for people that dont know how to use .deb ?tar.gz archives?
[07:06] <hyphenated> beruic: I'm all out of ideas about where it's gone. it is probably just filesystem overhead
[07:06] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[07:06] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:06] <beruic> Is it there when you make one too?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> ^^^gives you commands to run
[07:06] <Lueinden> Maybe when I upgrade to Dapper, I won't have to have 112 MB of updates to do on a 56k.
[07:06] <Lueinden> :)
[07:06] <chaos_of_apocaly> where is the kernel?
[07:06] <metatag> McNutella : tar -xzf <file>.tar.gz
[07:06] <chaos_of_apocaly> source
[07:07] <gnomefreak> metatag: not for ff1.5 on breezy i wouldnt use that
[07:07] <hyphenated> Lueinden: on release day, probably not. maybe the day after tho ;-)
[07:07] <McNutella> metatag: yeah, and then to install it/compile it.. some users might not have a clue
[07:07] <Lueinden> :/
[07:07] <Lueinden> Awwww..
[07:07] <metatag> McNutella : no need to compile firefox , it installs rightaway
[07:07] <Lueinden> I downloaded Ubuntu on a friend's cable modem.
[07:08] <beruic> hyphenated: Is it there when you make one too?
[07:08] <McNutella> metatag: so you untar it, and it does it all for you ?
[07:08] <gnomefreak> McNutella: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion   run the commands as shown
[07:08] <chaos_of_apocaly> where is the kernel source?
[07:08] <Calgar> hi, could somone help, i seem to be unable to activate the "universe" or the "multiverse" in package manager, it just takes ages trying to download the repository updates and then says it cant connect to the repository, could somone help me please?
[07:08] <metatag> McNutella: no u have to cd in the directory created
[07:08] <hyphenated> beruic: the raw partition is 6.02GB. once you add a filesystem to it, it takes some of that space for its own internal purposes
[07:08] <McNutella> gnomefreak: im just interested in how that may work, ive already installed it using that page..
[07:08] <chaos_of_apocaly> where is the kernel source?
[07:09] <metatag> McNutella: and run ./firefox-install
[07:09] <Old> Anyone know how to give the user "old" access to /var/www, full access in that dir? A ftp account
[07:09] <beruic> hyphenated: yeah, but 500 mb?
[07:09] <metatag> McNutella: sudo ./firefox-install
[07:09] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone tell me where is the kernel source???????????????
[07:10] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: there is no "THE" kernel
[07:10] <Calgar> www.linux.org ......
[07:10] <chaos_of_apocaly> what then?
[07:10] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: there are many many kernels out there with many many uses
[07:10] <Old> Anyone know how to give the user "old" access to /var/www, full access in that dir? A ftp account
[07:10] <chaos_of_apocaly> alright,but where,the main ones?
[07:10] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: main for what?
[07:11] <chaos_of_apocaly> where are the sources
[07:11] <chaos_of_apocaly> of the system?
[07:11] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: the linux kernel runs on Tivo, on computers, on Palms
[07:11] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: for computers look at kernel.org
[07:11] <chaos_of_apocaly> SOURCE CODE
[07:12] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: lets note use caps
[07:12] <Falluccer> hey
[07:12] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: there are *many* source codes
[07:12] <hybrid> s/note/not
[07:12] <Falluccer> hey, I'm having trouble install ubuntu
[07:12] <hybrid> Falluccer: how so?
[07:12] <Falluccer> it say invalid compressed format
[07:12] <chaos_of_apocaly> of the system.the sources that transmit things to the hardware
[07:13] <Lueinden> Piles and piles of files :P
[07:13] <metatag> chaos_of_apocaly : wat do you need the sources for?
[07:13] <chaos_of_apocaly> to see...
[07:13] <Flannel> chaos_of_apocaly: you'll have to download the kernel source package from apt.
[07:13] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok
[07:14] <chaos_of_apocaly> how do i do it?
[07:14] <Falluccer> hybrid: it says uncompressing linux and then right below it it says invalid compressed format
[07:14] <Falluccer> then it says system halted
[07:14] <hybrid> Falluccer: have you tried a different CD?
[07:14] <chaos_of_apocaly> how download the kernel?
[07:14] <Falluccer> no
[07:15] <Falluccer> is that what I'm gonna have to do
[07:15] <Falluccer> which mirror do you suggest
[07:15] <Flannel> chaos_of_apocaly: use whatever you normally use to install stuff (like synaptic package manager, or whatever) and search for 'kernel-source' then pick what you'd like to see.
[07:15] <Calgar> chaos_of_aocaly: www.linux.org has the linux kernal source
[07:15] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok
[07:15] <hybrid> Falluccer: i would try a different CD if its shipit CDs, if it is burned check the md5sum then if it matches re-burn
[07:15] <Flannel> or yeah, you can just check linux.org for generic source
[07:15] <hybrid> Falluccer: mirrors matter not
[07:16] <fiorenti> i need a program like network stumbler on windows.??
[07:16] <itrebal> i've been trying to install 'gem' for Ruby, and i've install ruby1.8 and ruby1.8-dev, but none of them supply 'gem' i did apt-get install gem but thats an OpenGL program.
[07:16] <metatag> chaos_of_aocaly : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[07:16] <hybrid> fiorenti: try kismet
[07:16] <metatag> chaos_of_apocaly : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[07:16] <fiorenti> hybrid: has kismet a GUI?
[07:16] <earthen> I want to run a internet sharing script after my dsl connection has connected, how or where should I put the file?
[07:16] <hybrid> fiorenti: yes it does
[07:17] <itrebal> anyone know what package it might be in?
[07:17] <metatag> earthen : try firestarter
[07:17] <sstchur> rob_p,  Right now I have traditional ubuntu installed.  Xubuntu is ubuntu configured with XFCE.  Problems is, XFCE doesn't seem to have the network-admin gui
[07:17] <Old> How do i make a user's home dir to be /var/www, and have him have a ftp account for that dir to with proftpd? (the user is called: web)
[07:17] <sstchur> rob_p, which is the only way I know how to get my wireless card activated and working in ubuntu
[07:18] <Old> Anyone!?
[07:18] <ketsugi> make a symbolic link from /home/web to /var/www
[07:18] <Falluccer> hybrid
[07:18] <itrebal> Old: AFAIK proftpd will use their home directory
[07:18] <earthen> Metatag I have the script done and it is working fine it's just i have to run it manully everything after conicting to DSL
[07:18] <Falluccer> my compter is being weirf
[07:18] <hybrid> Falluccer: yes?
[07:18] <Falluccer> *wierd
[07:18] <hybrid> Falluccer: why?
[07:18] <Falluccer> internet connection
[07:18] <metatag> earthen : oic
[07:18] <earthen> metatag, I want it to auto run
[07:19] <Old> itrebal, can i change this?
[07:19] <Falluccer> hybrid: what were you sayingbefore
[07:19] <Old> how ketsugi ?
[07:19] <fiorenti> hybrid: i have installed kismet.but how do i open it?there's no link in the "a
[07:19] <hybrid> Falluccer: if you burnered the cd check the md5sum to make sure it isnt corrupt
[07:19] <fiorenti> applications" menu
[07:19] <earthen> metatag,  I've put the file in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d  folder but it's not being run there
[07:19] <Falluccer> hybrid: how do I check that
[07:19] <hybrid> fiorenti: try opening a terminal and typing "kismet" <enter>
[07:20] <ketsugi> sudo rm -rf /home/web; sudo ln -s /var/www /home/web
[07:20] <Flannel> Old: if you made the user in the GUI, you can specify their home folder.
[07:20] <ketsugi> make sure there's nothing in the /home/web directory first, though
[07:20] <earthen> Does anyone know where I sould locat this file???
[07:20] <hybrid> Falluccer: what OS are you running atm?
[07:20] <Old> Im using ubuntu server Flannel
[07:20] <Falluccer> well on the one computer i'm trying to put it on, nothing, and the one i'm typing to you from is running windows 2000
[07:21] <metatag> earthen : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBootupHowto
[07:21] <fiorenti> hybrid: FATAL: Please configure at least one packet source.  Kismet will not function if no packet sources are defined in kismet.conf or on the command line.  Please read the README for more information about configuring Kismet.
[07:21] <fiorenti> Kismet exiting.
[07:21] <hybrid> Falluccer: do a google search for "Windows md5"
[07:21] <itrebal> anyonw know which package provides Ruby's Gem?
[07:21] <earthen> metatag, thanks for the link I'll check that out
[07:21] <Falluccer> hybrid: ok
[07:21] <metatag> earthen : np
[07:22] <Falluccer> when I do eventually get ubuntu on my computer will I be able to network windows 2000 and ubuntu
[07:22] <hybrid> Falluccer: once you get it you will need to match it with the Ubuntu md5, which should be downloaded at the same place you got the iso
[07:23] <Falluccer> and shre files
[07:23] <hybrid> Falluccer: it is possible yess
[07:23] <hybrid> Falluccer: idk if windows can talk to Ubuntu but i do know Ubuntu can talk to Windows
[07:24] <Old> cheers, it worked!
[07:24] <Old> :D
[07:24] <metatag> itrebal : http://fatpenguinblog.com/?p=105
[07:25] <itrebal> metatag: thanks
[07:26] <metatag> itrebal : np
[07:26] <bruno> Yay from ages ago metatag, I just got ff 1.5 working ^_^
[07:26] <jimMmy_> how does ubuntu know which kernel module zu load? i mean my /etc/modules has hardly any common modules listed?
[07:26] <Old> How do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)
[07:27] <metatag> bruno : congrats !
[07:27] <fiorenti> hybrid: thanks for the link
[07:27] <hybrid> fiorenti: no problem
[07:28] <jimMmy_> i want to compile a new kernel the ubuntu way but i don't know where to enter the modules as for they are only compiled as modules in the default kernel
[07:28] <metatag> jimMmy_ : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[07:30] <Delicate_Shadow> hi guys
[07:30] <metatag> hi Delicate_Shadow
[07:31] <Delicate_Shadow> can someone help me defining the Fn keys in my laptop ??!!
[07:31] <Old> How do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)
[07:31] <Delicate_Shadow> hi metatag
[07:31] <Mort_Cinder> hi
[07:32] <thinkle> Delicate_Shadow, Are you using GNOME? If so... System->Keyboard Shortcuts...
[07:32] <metatag> hi Mort_Cinder
[07:32] <ptike> hi
[07:32] <metatag> hi ptike
[07:32] <Delicate_Shadow> how about KDE ?
[07:33] <Delicate_Shadow> and by the way how to start the WIFI ?
[07:33] <metatag> Delicate_Shadow : #kubuntu
[07:33] <Delicate_Shadow> ok
[07:34] <Delicate_Shadow> thanx metatag
[07:34] <metatag> Delicate_Shadow : my pleasure
[07:34] <Falluccer> hybrid: it said the checksums are the same
[07:35] <Mort_Cinder> is there a way of moving my installation to another computer, even the installed programs?
[07:35] <ptike> does anybody know where i can find the package gstreamer-0.10-plugins-mad-multiverse?
[07:36] <Falluccer> should I re-download it
[07:36] <KaosX> allo
[07:36] <Calgar> can anyone help, i just tried to do "apt-get update" and got this error message:
[07:36] <hybrid> Falluccer: ok now try burning again at a REAL slow speed
[07:36] <Calgar> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:36] <Calgar> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:36] <Falluccer> i burned it at 8x last time
[07:36] <hybrid> Calgar: use sudo
[07:36] <madmike> Mort_Cinder: there are possibilites
[07:36] <Calgar> oh, heh
[07:36] <KaosX> Calgar ... have you rebooted yet?
[07:37] <hybrid> err
[07:37] <hybrid> not sudo
[07:37] <Calgar> KaosX: wuh?
[07:37] <hybrid> heh i didnt keep reading
[07:37] <Calgar> KaosX: why?
[07:37] <KaosX> Ive had that command so the same thing
[07:37] <KaosX> a reboot fixed it
[07:38] <KaosX> I tried using su root and sudo with no change
[07:38] <Calgar> KaosX: using sudo fixed it, and i rebooted after ubuntu did a kernal update
[07:38] <KaosX> Hmm
[07:39] <KaosX> i had that happen the other day after i did an apt-get upgrade dist and su or sudo didnt fix
[07:39] <slashpc> sois una pila de ellos
[07:39] <slashpc> mejor los dejamos. somos demasiados
[07:40] <Flannel> !es
[07:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:40] <metatag> Mort_Cinder : http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/
[07:40] <Old> How do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)
[07:40] <hybrid> Old: well
[07:40] <alaskan> hello
[07:40] <KaosX> to create the user the command would be useradd cstrike
[07:41] <alaskan> shoul i buy a HP computer is compatible with liux
[07:41] <alaskan> ?
[07:41] <Calgar> im gunna see if a reboot fixes my problems activating the universe and multiverse, BBS
[07:41] <metwo> hello
[07:41] <hybrid> Old: you could addusr and then his home would be /home/cs and then mkdir /cs/2 and chmod it to let cs have all access
[07:41] <metatag> hello metwo
[07:41] <hybrid> but there maybe any easier way
[07:41] <KaosX> the problem is restricting access to other dirs
[07:41] <KaosX> you might have to place that user in a group
[07:42] <KaosX> and change group permissions in key places
[07:42] <hybrid> personally i would have a box dedicated to CS so i wouldnt need to worry
[07:42] <KaosX> yeah
[07:42] <Mort_Cinder> metatag. thanx for the link, but is it safe as in cant there be compatibility issues?
[07:42] <bon_> i get this error when installing a program http://pastebin.com/715567 i am useing kubuntu
[07:42] <metwo> i was wondering if someone cold help me enable dri on ubuntu for my ati radeon card
[07:42] <RayFredPip> hybrid, hi,are you ?
[07:43] <Falluccer> hybrid: I'll burn it at the slowest speed with no interruptions and report back
[07:43] <Thug-N-Me> how will i burn bin files ?
[07:43] <metatag> Mort_Cinder : Can't say
[07:43] <hybrid> Flannel: iight i wish ya good fortune
[07:43] <hybrid> RayFredPip: good
[07:43] <KaosX> k3b will burn almost anythin
[07:43] <Mort_Cinder> metatag, ok i'll look into it
[07:43] <KaosX> anything that is
[07:44] <B0FH> !hardware
[07:44] <ubotu> hardware is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:44] <Jimmey__> How can I specify a DNS address for ra0
[07:44] <metatag> Mort_Cinder : check this also: http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_systemimager
[07:45] <metwo> anyone
[07:46] <esfurniture> !easysource
[07:46] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:46] <Mort_Cinder> metatag, cool thanx
[07:46] <bruno> OK, this is gonna sound like a silly question but is it just me that can't play the files on www.metacafe.com, or can no-one?
[07:46] <phace> hmmm
[07:46] <phace> how can i set up logitech cordless lx7 ?
[07:46] <metatag> Mort_Cinder : np
[07:46] <metatag> metwo : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:47] <ubuntu_> can someone please help me with changing screen refresh rate ??.. ubuntu defaults @ 60hz   thanks :)
[07:47] <Old> How do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)
[07:47] <pike__> !res
[07:47] <ubotu> somebody said res was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:47] <Old> The exact command perhaps? :D
[07:48] <ubuntu_> thank you ubotu
[07:48] <megaman123> anyone uses nexus-s? trying to get it to run on ubuntu...did not autodetect it
[07:49] <bruno> Old, you tryin-a do counterstrike in wine?
[07:49] <Thug-N-Me> how do i convert a BIN file to an ISO file ?
[07:49] <s|k> I'm buying a second pc with 60mb of ram and a P2, I want to set it up as a server
[07:49] <s|k> what other kind of hardward do I need?
[07:49] <Flannel> s|k: a NIC ;)
[07:49] <Abountu> hi all
[07:49] <s|k> Flannel: do I need a hub or something?
[07:50] <s|k> I connect through a cable modem atm
[07:50] <Flannel> s|k: um, not for the computer.  Yeah, you'll want a router, probably.
[07:50] <Abountu> is there a way in gaim to put a photo? ( I mean assign a foto to myself)
[07:50] <Flannel> s|k: it'll go wall - cable modem - router - (both computers, separately)
[07:50] <Calgar> back again....
[07:51] <s|k> Flannel: do I need a special linux capabale router?
[07:51] <metatag> phace : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-65471.html
[07:52] <pike__> s|k: any router
[07:52] <dolobo> does anyone no anything about that easy ubuntu program?
[07:52] <kapputu> Have a wireless networking question
[07:52] <Flannel> s|k: nah, packets are all the same.
[07:52] <s|k> is 60mb of ram enough?
[07:52] <Jimmey__> what command can I use to assign a DNS address to a wireless ( ra0 ) interface?
[07:52] <Flannel> s|k: depends on what youre serving.
[07:52] <kapputu> I need to connect to a secure network at home
[07:52] <Flannel> s|k: but probably.
[07:52] <kapputu> and any open network when I'm outside. How do I do that?
[07:52] <s|k> Flannel: I want to put apache on it and an IRC shell (screen + irssi)
[07:53] <s|k> and probably a ssh server
[07:53] <Flannel> s|k: and its just for personal use?
[07:53] <Kr0ntab> kapputu, using wpa?
[07:53] <s|k> Flannel: yep
[07:53] <hybrid> s|k: CLI 60mb is enough
[07:53] <s|k> CLI?
[07:53] <Jimmey__> Command Line Interface
[07:53] <hybrid> command line interface
[07:53] <s|k> sweet
[07:53] <hybrid> Jimmey__: +1
[07:54] <metatag> Abountu : accounts > modify > User Options > Buddy Icon
[07:54] <kapputu> Kr0ntab: what's wpa?
[07:55] <amonkey> is there a program that can read .wab's? i want to check an address book i'm backing up.
[07:55] <hybrid> kapputu: its wireless encryption
[07:55] <s|k> Flannel: thanks
[07:55] <metatag> dolobo: #easyubuntu
[07:55] <Kr0ntab> wifi protected access
[07:55] <s|k> hybrid: thanks :
[07:55] <s|k> :)
[07:55] <hybrid> s|k: np
[07:55] <hybrid> s|k: my tip
[07:55] <Kr0ntab> standard for higher security in wireless networks
[07:55] <kapputu> hybrid: oh that wpa. I thought he was talking about some application in Ubuntu
[07:56] <Sven_vB> hi
[07:56] <hybrid> s|k: do  server install then apt-get irssi and screen
[07:56] <pike__> unless youre my bank which has an open access point :/
[07:56] <kapputu> I use WEP in my home network
[07:56] <s|k> hybrid: thanks :)
[07:56] <Sven_vB> i want XMMS to play files directly from an FTP server. which plugin do i need?
[07:56] <hybrid> s|k: np
[07:56] <Kr0ntab> kapputu, then you can use a tool like wifi-radar or a nhumber of other clients that let you toggle between different networks and store the profiles...
[07:57] <sanmarcos> is there a way to get over the initram-fs dependency hell when updating from breezy to dapper, and you have a kernel pre .12 ?
[07:57] <Kr0ntab> connecting to open networks is easy... you can use the default network-admin tool to simply find and connect to them..
[07:57] <Calgar> when i try to enable the universe and multiverse, i get this error:
[07:57] <Calgar> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[07:57] <Calgar> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/Release.gpg: Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[07:57] <Calgar> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/Release.gpg: Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[07:57] <Calgar> im guessing it could be that i need to open some ports on my router or somthing, i dont suppose linux has UPnP?
[07:57] <kapputu> Kr0ntab: what's the exact name of the binary?
[07:57] <hybrid> Calgar: use pastebin
[07:57] <sanmarcos> is there a way to get over the initram-fs dependency hell when updating from breezy to dapper, and you have a kernel pre .12 ?
[07:57] <Kr0ntab> sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[07:58] <s|k> is $79 a lot for a router?
[07:58] <Kr0ntab> wifi-radar is just one of many tools
[07:58] <dolobo> with that easy ubuntu i cant get the second comand to work it says im supposed to typ tar -zxf easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz
[07:58] <Calgar> hybrid: sorry, but can you help me anyway?
[07:58] <Jimmey__> s|k, buy a linksys
[07:58] <metatag> dolobo: #easyubuntu
[07:58] <Jimmey__> They're probably the best
[07:58] <bruno> metatag, do you have that link thing to ff 1.5 again? I would look in history but... lost all that in the upgrade of course xD
[07:58] <s|k> Jimmey__: okay
[07:58] <hybrid> Calgar: try to apt-get update
[07:58] <dolobo> #easyubuntu
[07:59] <pike__> s|k: a simple router should be dirt cheap
[07:59] <kapputu> Kr0ntab: do I need to update my sources? I can't find it
[07:59] <metatag> bruno : http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.3&os=linux&lang=en-US
[07:59] <Kr0ntab> yeah its in universe
[07:59] <metatag> dolobo: type //j #easyubuntu
[07:59] <hybrid> s|k: get an WRT54GS or WRT54GL and you can run linux on it
[07:59] <metatag> dolobo: type /j #easyubuntu
[07:59] <Kr0ntab> !sources
[07:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:59] <sanmarcos> is there a way to get over the initram-fs dependency hell when updating from breezy to dapper, and you have a kernel pre .12 ?
[07:59] <Karhuton> I just installed Dapper Beta 2 and got this error from GRUB:   GRUB Loading Stage1.5.   GRUB Hard Disk Error   |  I also get the same error with Breezy. I have two SATA drivers and PATA CD drive.
[08:00] <bruno> Fanks metatag :)
[08:00] <Old> The exact command perhaps? :D
[08:00] <Old> How do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)
[08:00] <Calgar> how come its trying to connect to 1.0.0.0  when i do "sudo apt-get update"?
[08:01] <hybrid> Old: one command wont do that
[08:01] <Kr0ntab> kapputu, follow the instructions for adding sources that ubotu just gave
[08:01] <Karhuton> sda1: ntfs / sda2: ext3 / sda5: ntfs   --  hdd is my CD -- Grub is installed to MBR
[08:01] <ajo> Old, sudo adduser cstrike
[08:01] <metatag> bruno : np :)
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> How can I reset all of my applets and their locations in the gnome-panel back to the default?
[08:01] <sanmarcos> fuck you all
[08:01] <Kr0ntab> eek
[08:02] <sanmarcos> fucking ubuntu newbies
[08:02] <metatag> hi sanmarcos
[08:02] <dolobo> metatag: thanks
[08:02] <metatag> oops
[08:02] <alaskan> ("People use Linux on the desktop, because they are too poor to buy a Mac")
[08:02] <alaskan> it is true?
[08:02] <Ribs> of course not
[08:02] <metatag> np dolobo
[08:02] <Kr0ntab> hahaha
[08:02] <Calgar> sanmarcos: well, the ubuntu website does say to come here for support........
[08:02] <bruno> I sold my Mac to afford a linux PC...
[08:02] <high-freq> haha....and what is osX  lmao
[08:02] <high-freq> friggin n00b
[08:02] <Ribs> Calgar: he's gone dude.
[08:02] <Jimmey__> People use Macs, because they're 1. Too dumb to use another BSD 2. Make graphics
[08:03] <YoussefAssad> erh...
[08:03] <metatag> heard macOSx rocks
[08:03] <YoussefAssad> People use macs because under some circumstances they're right
[08:03] <YoussefAssad> god, what are we, fifteen?
[08:03] <hybrid> Jimmey__: get me an edittor for video in linus and i will quit OS
[08:03] <hybrid> X
[08:03] <hybrid> in linux*
[08:03] <Jimmey__> hybrid, that's what I meant about the graphics thing.
[08:03] <hybrid> ah
[08:04] <Jimmey__> YoussefAssad, I'm fifteen.
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> metatag: Honestly, it's not bad.  Certainly better than Windows, imo.
[08:04] <hybrid> Jimmey__: although Diva Project has potential
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> Good for arts student types especially.
[08:04] <LinuxJones> hybrid: there are a few in development but it will still be a few years until they are mature :(
[08:04] <Abountu> hi
[08:04] <hybrid> LinuxJones: yeah i was going to try Diva but i need more than ogg encoding from it
[08:04] <metatag> tonyyarusso : good for geeks too... atleast paul graham says so.. even rails developers
[08:05] <lkj1> Why isn't my fluxbox menu working? It only displays xterm and exit. The admin @ #fluxbox said that this is an ubuntu specific issue. Can anyone tell me how to get this fixed?
[08:05] <LinuxJones> hybrid: jahshaka is very promising looking, it's a suite of multimedia composing tools.
[08:05] <hybrid> if i could have expose and final cut on Linux i would never need OSX again
[08:05] <lkj1> hybrid: the UI is even more confusing than GIMP's, IMHO.
[08:05] <hastesaver> hybrid, kino? (I'm not serious)
[08:05] <metatag> going now.. night all
[08:05] <hybrid> lkj1: what UI>
[08:06] <Jimmey__> GIMP's UI for me, is easy
[08:06] <jimMmy_> gnu-night :)
[08:06] <Jimmey__> It might be a personal thing
[08:06] <lkj1> The  Jahshaka one, Hybrid
[08:06] <dieffel> hello! Dont now if this is the right channel... correct me if im wrong. I have a new usb-harddisk (250gb) and it got one big reiserFS-partition on. It is automounted just fine, but only in readonly. How can i automount it in read/write? I have a VFAT usbkey, and it works just fine.
[08:06] <hybrid> i love the power of linux but i have no editting software ='(
[08:06] <Old> How do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)
[08:06] <LinuxJones> hybrid: I kow what you mean I am buying a Mac simply for Final Cut Studio, although the price is rediculous for what you get for 3 grand(not even a monitor which is bs)
[08:06] <lkj1> sudo mount -rw /dev/sda1, dieffel
[08:06] <hybrid> Old: we heard every time!
[08:06] <hybrid> LinuxJones: you will be surprised
[08:07] <lkj1> hybrid: I am trying to remember the name of a really good editing software similar to FCP for linux..
[08:07] <dieffel> lkj1: ok will it auto mount the next time then?
[08:07] <hybrid> LinuxJones: macs are way more powerful then believed and Apple's software is made to work best on Macs like noone else
[08:07] <hybrid> lkj1: i hope you do :)
[08:07] <LinuxJones> lkj1: you probably mean MainActor
[08:07] <lkj1> I don't know, you may need to ask an intelligent person. I am pretty much clueless.
[08:07] <NickGarvey> Old: will this be ftp only?
[08:07] <YoussefAssad> there's something to be said for an OS designed to a limited spectrum of hardware
[08:08] <YoussefAssad> (re. mac)
[08:08] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: Apple isnt in the OS business fyi
[08:08] <hybrid> hence bootcamp
[08:08] <LinuxJones> hybrid: I know it will be an excellent environment to work in but I am used to pc prices :D
[08:08] <lkj1> That last comment was at dieffel
[08:08] <dieffel> lkj1: ok
[08:09] <kapputu> !sources
[08:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:09] <hybrid> LinuxJones: you get what you pay for in a mac ;D
[08:09] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: I'm not looking at it from the Jobs POV. I'm making the simple observation that limiting the hardware range is something with its own set of advantages, even to the user
[08:09] <lkj1> @ LinuxJones: I don't know what the name was, but it wasn't main actor.. The UI was purple though.
[08:09] <lkj1> purple/grey
[08:09] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: Apple does need to open the OS they opened the hardware
[08:09] <YoussefAssad> boy, half a day in ubuntu and this is really lovely.
[08:09] <LinuxJones> hybrid: jahshaka ?
[08:09] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: running on x86 isn't my definition of opening hardware
[08:10] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: this is where linux fails misserably, PPC Linux should be awesome because it is all standardized
[08:10] <lkj1> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[08:10] <lkj1> Cinelerra was the name.
[08:10] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: Macs can legally run ANY OS
[08:10] <hybrid> can your PC?
[08:10] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: yes, that is an interesting observation. PPC ought to be miles better
[08:10] <LinuxJones> hybrid: that's it, it has the worse interface for a computer program of all time :(
[08:10] <kapputu> when is Dapper getting released?
[08:11] <hybrid> LinuxJones: MainActor looks ALOT like Final Cut
[08:11] <LinuxJones> kapputu: 2 1/2 weeks or so
[08:11] <kapputu> I saw the installation screenshots
[08:11] <kapputu> it was quite cool
[08:11] <intelikey> what is the eol char for sed ?
[08:11] <gymsmoke> i just added a new domain to my nameserver... to reload the dns entries without restarting bind9, is it - rndc regen ? (i forget what the syntax is for this)
[08:11] <lkj1> Why isn't my fluxbox menu working? It only displays xterm and exit. The admin @ #fluxbox said that this is an ubuntu specific issue. Can anyone tell me how to get this fixed?
[08:11] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: friend, I'm trying to look at it from the perspective of my fiancee, not us savvy folk :) She just needs something which works. Limiting the hardware platform helps make it work better
[08:11] <kapputu> It'll help me move more people to linux
[08:11] <LinuxJones> hybrid: they have a demo if you wanna try it, but it's fairly basic.
[08:12] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: yes OSX will never have driver issues like Windows does :D
[08:12] <YoussefAssad> lkj1: go look in .fluxbox/menu, maybe you want to rebuild that
[08:12] <kapputu> would it be risky to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy?
[08:12] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: precisely
[08:12] <hybrid> LinuxJones: ##videoeditting if ya dont mind
[08:12] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: and linux even. Atheros and sis VGA here, not fun
[08:13] <byron> Hello, I have 2 harddrives and am trying to get tehm both working under the same ubuntu system and when I try to get the other one working it doesnt give me read/write permission, how do I get it to do so?
[08:13] <NickGarvey> byron: what file system?
[08:13] <intelikey> Q;     trying to remove line breaks that occure after  :   sed /?/,/^    /d       what should ? be ???
[08:13] <YoussefAssad> all these mounting perms questions make me pine for the days when vim /etc/fstab was the way to go
[08:13] <Old> NickGarvey, Nah
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> How to revert gnome-panel to default applets/locations?
[08:13] <byron> well I first tried extention 2 or 3 forget but then I tried fat
[08:13] <Calgar> odd, i seem to be missing some of the sources listed here...... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto help?
[08:14] <crazy_penguin> kapputu: no.
[08:14] <pez> Hi fellow ubunters, is there anyone that knows how to sort out jerky DVD playback?
[08:14] <NickGarvey> Old: going to allow them to log in over ssh and such?
[08:14] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: yumm vim and fstab
[08:14] <byron> any ideas?
[08:15] <Old> yeah NickGarvey
[08:15] <kapputu> no NTFS write support from linux is very painful
[08:15] <byron> OLD?
[08:16] <byron> ssh?
[08:16] <NickGarvey> Old: hmm.. will the command you are looking for is chroot
[08:16] <needlez> Hi everyone
[08:16] <Kr0ntab> pez, you should enable dma for your dvd drive
[08:16] <Kr0ntab> !dma
[08:16] <NickGarvey> Old: maybe you could put it in there .bashrc file and not allow them to have write access to it
[08:16] <Calgar> how do you reset the "software repositories" menu?
[08:17] <NickGarvey> Old: but they wouldn't be able to do.. anything.. at all..
[08:17] <Kr0ntab> sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd
[08:17] <Calgar> please?
[08:17] <NickGarvey> Old: I think that would break a lot of stuff..
[08:17] <Old> me too
[08:17] <Old> :<
[08:17] <Kr0ntab> pez, also .. you make the change permanent by editing /etc/hdparm.conf
[08:17] <pez> Krontab, does it have cause any risks enabling as the wiki says it has potential problems
[08:17] <Old> nevermind, ill do ftp access mate
[08:17] <needlez> Does anyone know if it is possible to have my Rogers Cable internet successfully running on ubuntu and have my wireless network setup up for my two laptops? i want the wireless network on ubuntu as well
[08:17] <Kr0ntab> not for your dvd drive
[08:17] <NickGarvey> Old: :) know how to set up a chroot jail with ftp?
[08:17] <Kr0ntab> yer all good...
[08:18] <Old> but really appriciated you're help, It's good to know that people are willing to help in this cahnnel. I always come here when i need help, and i ALWYAS get answers :)
[08:18] <Old> i know how to setup a account for having access toa spec dir
[08:18] <Old> so thats np :)
[08:18] <Old> wrote it down D:
[08:18] <Calgar> how do you reset the "software repositories" menu? please?
[08:18] <Kr0ntab> there are some risks when changing values on your hard drive as hdparm can adjust many aspects of the drives functionality... but in most cases yer good
[08:18] <NickGarvey> Old: good luck :)
[08:19] <needlez> anyone?
[08:19] <pez> also, why do different multimedia players display DVD playback differently. For example, MPlayer is very pixely
[08:19] <Kr0ntab> pez, using dma is a good thing for cdrom/dvd drives... and it takes the load off of the cpu
[08:19] <hybrid> needlez: what wifi cards are you suing?
[08:19] <Thug-N-Me> will i have a good reasons to switch to dapper ?
[08:19] <needlez> the wifi cards in the laptop?
[08:19] <needlez> *laptops?
[08:19] <hybrid> yes
[08:20] <Old> NickGarvey
[08:20] <needlez> i have no idea, whichever ones came with the computers, infact im pretty sure they are those built-in auto-config ones
[08:20] <LinuxJones> Thug-N-Me: Dapper is quite a bit snappier on the desktop.
[08:20] <Old> you good at mysql btw? :)
[08:20] <Flannel> Thug-N-Me: dapper is a lot quicker
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> Thug-N-Me: Network manager WPA support!
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> Thug-N-Me: (And it's fast and pretty)
[08:20] <Thug-N-Me> Flannel is it ? i heard people saying its slower
[08:20] <hybrid> needlez: then with a wifi router and the network cards you should be good to go
[08:21] <pez> thanks krontab :-) I'll sort out the DMA through the advice from the Wiki documentation
[08:21] <Flannel> Thug-N-Me: Breezy was the "feature" release, Dapper is the bugfix release. of the pair.
[08:21] <Thug-N-Me> tonyyarusso i heard people saying its slower
[08:21] <Thug-N-Me> Flannel ohh i see
[08:21] <Kr0ntab> I haven't noticed the difference... but each use different filters, and scaling algorithms... etc. prolly has something to do with it...
[08:21] <Kr0ntab> np
[08:21] <NickGarvey> Old: haha nope, I know a little bit
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> Thug-N-Me: I heard one say that, faster for me.
[08:21] <needlez> hybrid: sweet. ok, now, the REALLY newb question, lol, how (once i install ubuntu) do i configure it to get my internet going again?
[08:21] <NickGarvey> Old: its just not a skill I need right now so I haven't learn much of it
[08:21] <Calgar> how do you reset the "software repositories" menu? please?
[08:21] <Old> kk :)
[08:21] <hybrid> needlez: more than likely it will be ready to go out of the box
[08:22] <Thug-N-Me> tonyyarusso hope it will be for me too :)
[08:22] <needlez> hybrid: sweet, thanks :) btw, im not sure if this matters or now, but im TOTALLY replacing windows with linux, i have another seperate pc for windows (my gaming machine).
[08:22] <kapputu> why would I want the klogd and sysklogd daemons running?
[08:23] <CaptainMorgan> is there a hotkey for locking the system?
[08:23] <hybrid> needlez: nice, have fun :)
[08:23] <_jason> CaptainMorgan: you can set one in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[08:23] <Kr0ntab> kapputu, they log events and errors from the kernel and operating system...
[08:24] <kapputu> aah
[08:24] <kapputu> ok
[08:24] <Kr0ntab> kapputu, they're a good thing
[08:24] <CaptainMorgan> awesome, thanks _jason
[08:24] <kapputu> obviously I guess
[08:24] <needlez> hybrid: OH! would you know why Mandriva wont work on my pc. i got the 3 CD's and everything, but when i put them in my drive and click the "install" button nothing happens, and when i reboot with the disk in my drive it totally doesnt read it, even though my boot sequence is in the right order (and yes i burnt the ISO's properly)
[08:24] <kapputu> I thought the server daemons were running by default
[08:24] <kapputu> apache/ftp/dhcp
[08:24] <kapputu> they don't?
[08:24] <hybrid> needlez: cause mandravia is horrid :p no idea really
[08:25] <megaman123> whats the command to change the root password (or set it)??
[08:25] <jack|ass> i have a route entered in my routing table that shouldn't be there.  However, when i try to delete it (route del ip.addr.of.dest) it tells me it doesn't exist.  Is there something special i need to do to remove it that i'm missing?
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> Could someone give me the path to the default mail icon in gnome-panel?
[08:25] <Calgar> how do you reset the "software repositories" menu? please?
[08:25] <Kr0ntab> ubotu, tell megaman123 about root
[08:25] <Kr0ntab> !root
[08:25] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:25] <needlez> hybrid: lolol. are there any other themes for ubuntu? or do i have to stick with brown everything? i want some nice looking ones if possible, some that resemble Mac's OSX perhaps?
[08:26] <hybrid> needlez: you can theme gnome and kde etc
[08:26] <_rab_> needlez, check gnome-look.org
[08:26] <jhenn> how can i find out what video card my computer has from the ubuntu livecd?
[08:26] <Kr0ntab> jhenn, lspci
[08:26] <Thug-N-Me> Flannel tonyyarusso in gnome its a lot faster right ?
[08:26] <Kr0ntab> from command line
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Thug-N-Me: Yeah.
[08:27] <needlez> and i'm assuming all of these will work with ubuntu? (it runs off the GNOME system right? and Kubuntu is the KDE version?
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Thug-N-Me: b/c of the 2.14 improvements.
[08:27] <Flannel> needlez: yes
[08:27] <LinuxJones> Thug-N-Me: it's quit snappy
[08:27] <Thug-N-Me> LinuxJones ok
[08:27] <_rab_> needlez, if you installed ubuntu then its default is gnome, is you installed kubuntu its default is kde
[08:27] <needlez> cool
[08:28] <needlez> whats the difference between gnome and kde? or do i want to know? is it easier not knowing? lol, like, is there alot to explain?
[08:28] <Flannel> needlez: theyre differet environments.  Youre welcome to install KDE and find out.
[08:28] <samuli> yeah :)
[08:29] <hybrid> needlez: philosphy
[08:29] <samuli> like Flannel said, just install kubuntu or ubuntu and then install the other environment and try both out.
[08:29] <samuli> it's really easy.
[08:29] <needlez> maybe after i get used to linux i'll go kde. go to see the difference, but for now, i'll stick with what they think the "default" should be
[08:29] <hybrid> needlez: gnome is more about being slick and simple
[08:29] <samuli> well not 'slick' :)
[08:29] <hybrid> samuli: slick as in not looking like windows :D
[08:29] <samuli> for some reason gnome is being a bit slow on dapper. To me atleast.
[08:30] <hybrid> samuli: i've heard it is blazing on dapper
[08:30] <samuli> gnome is a lot better than windows :)
[08:30] <samuli> well.. it's not :P
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> Pretty please?  Just right-click on the mail icon, properties, and find out the file path for the icon.
[08:30] <samuli> kde is lot 'snappier'
[08:30] <needlez> im glad i am finally getting the chance to go linux, i have wanted to do it for so long...but before this i had a wireless adapter, so i couldnt (no drivers or anything...stupid d-link) but now im hard-wired right in to my modem : D
[08:30] <samuli> but I like gnome.. so.. I live with it.
[08:30] <needlez> im gonna get rid of windows once and for all!!
[08:31] <samuli> and it's not that bad really. just slower.
[08:31] <samuli> needlez, good man :)
[08:31] <mDot> needlez congrats... welcome to the club
[08:31] <hybrid> needlez: there are some dlink drivers
[08:31] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: which icon?
[08:31] <Old> NickGarvey
[08:31] <needlez> i know there are some d-link drivers, but not for my particular model.
[08:31] <needlez> it was a total bumme
[08:31] <needlez> r
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: For the mail launcher in gnome-panel.
[08:32] <Old> when i try to downloada file from my webserver, it says "you dont have a permission to download this file"
[08:32] <samuli> My windows were bugged down my spyware and stuff like a year ago and I still haven't had any reason to re-install it.
[08:32] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: the evolution one?
[08:32] <Old> how do i open it so everyone can download a file from the webserver? I tried to ex download http://dust2.mine.nu/cstrike/maps/de_mjolby3.bsp
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: Yeah.
[08:32] <NickGarvey> Old: know how to change the permissions?
[08:32] <kapputu> I really want to contribute to Ubuntu but I need a mentor
[08:32] <needlez> yeah, im getting sick of all this spy ware and mal ware and stuff. all the viruses floating around...
[08:32] <kapputu> I'm a lazy bum who won't do something unless someone gets me started
[08:32] <_rab_> needlez, good idea
[08:33] <kapputu> is there a room for Ubuntu developers?
[08:33] <needlez> the more i read about it, the more i see how much better linux is turning out to be
[08:33] <NickGarvey> Old: chmod a+r /maps/*
[08:33] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/evolution.svg
[08:33] <hybrid> kapputu: always
[08:33] <NickGarvey> Old: chmod a+r ./maps/* if you are in cstrike
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: Thanks.
[08:33] <Calgar> will somone please help me, i cant seem to add any repositories apart from the cd, and i appear to not have some of the options that are shown here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto so i think i may have accidentally deleted somthing. please!? i only installed like a couple of hours ago!
[08:33] <NickGarvey> !aptcd
[08:33] <ubotu> to turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:", or in synaptic, go to settings > repositories and disable the cdrom repository
[08:33] <needlez> im just waiting for the ISO to finish downloading....i think i lost my SHIPIT disks they sent me when i moved...
[08:33] <samuli> needlez, funny thing is that once I got to linux I realized how ugly and hard to use windows is.. And I thought those were the good points of windows.
[08:33] <kapputu> hybrid: I meant is there a channel for UBuntu developers?
[08:34] <Old> NickGarvey, i want it to be download able, I mean, all maps/files in /var/www
[08:34] <LinuxJones> kapputu: what language ?
[08:34] <samuli> needlez, are you downloading breezy or dapper?
[08:34] <hybrid> kapputu: #ubuntu-motu ?
[08:34] <needlez> samuli: hahahaah yeah windows is turning out to be more of a pain than anything else. everything i think i have it the way i want it, something goes wrong
[08:34] <NickGarvey> Old: then everyone needs read priv
[08:34] <Old> how?
[08:34] <crimsun> kapputu: we're in -devel
[08:34] <NickGarvey> Old: cd to /var/ww
[08:34] <needlez> samuli: Brezzy i think.
[08:34] <Old> yeah
[08:34] <Old> done
[08:34] <railk> i have a laptop with ati radeon x700 mobility, and i'm getting display problems. to be exact, i get scanline-thingies generated by random rows of the screen being shifted a few pixels to the left
[08:34] <samuli> o-kay.
[08:35] <samuli> needlez, just expect some minor problems and a bit of frustration at the start.
[08:35] <NickGarvey> Old: are they all in folders?
[08:35] <Old> all folders are in /var/www
[08:35] <samuli> it takes a bit of time to understand the linux way of things.
[08:35] <Calgar> NickGarvey: that diddnt help, the thing is, the only binary option i have on the list is backports
[08:35] <kbrooks> What must a Python project do to make it be packagable?
[08:35] <needlez> samuli: i always do, its part of the process lol.
[08:35] <Old> thats my webserver, i want people to be able to downlad anything in there
[08:35] <Old> its linked ot my counter-strike server, as a ftp for downloading the maps.
[08:35] <Old> so thats why :)
[08:35] <needlez> samuli: but i figure, once i get the hang of things, it will be alot better
[08:35] <samuli> good thing is, that almost everything is repairable and you know what is going on. Much unlike in windows.
[08:35] <LinuxJones> kbrooks: packagable ?
[08:36] <needlez> hahah
[08:36] <LinuxJones> kbrooks: yo want to make .deb ?
[08:36] <kbrooks> LinuxJones: Yeah
[08:36] <calamari> hi
[08:36] <NickGarvey> ftp doesn't support symlinks..
[08:36] <Old> NickGarvey, All folders/files in /var/www should be download able.
[08:37] <calamari> I'm about to changegraphics cards, and I figure it will not load X when I reboot.. I remember there was a command I'll need, dpkg-reconfigure (something).. what is the rest?
[08:37] <NickGarvey> Old: then "chmod -R a+r /var/www"
[08:37] <Karhuton> Is it possible to boot to the ubuntu on the hard drive with the installation cd?
[08:37] <Old> wait NickGarvey
[08:37] <kbrooks> calamari: xserver-xorg
[08:37] <calamari> kbrooks: thanks!
[08:37] <Old> Is there a possiblity todo so all files/folders cannot be listed, but download able ?
[08:37] <Old> that'd be GREAT
[08:37] <kbrooks> calamari: switch to vesa b4 u reboot
[08:37] <odyssey> it just takes time to figure out what linux software can replace windows with
[08:38] <kbrooks> calamari: then switch, then boot into gui
[08:38] <NickGarvey> Old: make an index.html page
[08:38] <LinuxJones> kbrooks: I havn't made it that far yet but google seems to point to a #debina-mentors channel
[08:38] <calamari> ahh, good idea
[08:38] <Old> OK, done
[08:38] <NickGarvey> Old: that way they don't get a dir listing, then link only to the things you want
[08:38] <Old> well..
[08:38] <Old> oh
[08:38] <Old> ok
[08:38] <Old> hmpfh
[08:38] <NickGarvey> Old: or you could make a sub directory with symlinks to only the files you want
[08:38] <samuli> karhuton, yes. And dapper you can install from the live-cd as well.
[08:38] <NickGarvey> after you have made the index.html
[08:38] <Old> nah
[08:38] <Calgar> is there anyway to replace my missing entries in repositories? the only binary option i have there is backports, please
[08:38] <kbrooks> calamari: after u get ur vid card configgured, switch again, then reboot
[08:38] <Old> so, a index.html in /cstrike /maps etc?
[08:39] <Old> correct?
[08:39] <hastesaver> !tell Calgar about easysource
[08:39] <calamari> kbrooks: thanks a lot! :)
[08:39] <Karhuton> samuli: I want to boot to /dev/sda2 from hdd - how can I do that with Dapper Beta 2 CD?
[08:39] <NickGarvey> Old: I guess? not sure what you want
[08:39] <Karhuton> *hdd = CD
[08:39] <Old> Yeah, i have those folders, dont want those ot be shown
[08:39] <LinuxJones> kbrooks: or #ubuntu-motu might be a good place to ask.
[08:39] <samuli> karhuton, Umm, I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish?
[08:40] <MisterN> hastesaver: the link from !easysource is broken, or rather the site behind the link is broken
[08:40] <samuli> karhuton, you just want to mount that partition?
[08:40] <Old> how do i restart the webserver again NickGarvey ?
[08:40] <Calgar> hastesaver: the link that the bot gave me is broken, it gives me this error Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/www.ubuntulinux.nl/public_html/content/php/source-o-matic.php on line 206
[08:40] <Old> /etc/apt/apache2 restart or ?
[08:40] <NickGarvey> Old: sudo killall apache
[08:40] <Old> and then? :D
[08:40] <Karhuton> samuli: no, grub is broken in the mbr of sda. I want to boot to CD, load it's kernel and mount the root system on sda2 (sda1 is windows)
[08:41] <NickGarvey> Old: then apache -k start or something, check the man file
[08:41] <Karhuton> Or something like that
[08:41] <hastesaver> Calgar, it was working fine a while ago... maybe you can wait till they fix their site (or just ask someone else for their sources.list)
[08:41] <Flannel> Old: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:41] <Thug-N-Me> whats Edubuntu ?
[08:41] <samuli> karhuton, you can just re-install grub
[08:41] <Flannel> Old: erm, with sudo.
[08:41] <Old> k thanks
[08:41] <Old> does sudo matter btw?
[08:41] <hastesaver> MisterN, Yeah, it's broken (only the easysource page, though; the main page seems fine)... since when?
[08:41] <Karhuton> samuli: No, I can't. It won't work. Bios problem
[08:41] <samuli> karhuton, oh. ok.
[08:41] <Flannel> Old: yes.  Because as a user you can't do that.  (And that restarts it, don't need the killall stuff)
[08:42] <Old> ah ok
[08:42] <MisterN> hastesaver: no idea since when. at least since yesterday
[08:42] <Calgar> hastesaver: can you give me your sources.list?
[08:42] <gimpyhtml> is there an ubuntu equivalent to opening multiple folder/files at once into a program
[08:42] <hastesaver> Calgar, lol, ok; but be warned it has a lot of "extra" repositories :)
[08:42] <samuli> karhuton, well I don't know if you can sort of boot from cd and make it believe it's in the hdd..
[08:42] <gimpyhtml> similar to the CTRL click in windows
[08:42] <pvd2000> hey samuli
[08:43] <samuli> hey pvd2000.
[08:43] <Calgar> hastesaver: thats cool, i think i can trust that none of them will screw up my comp, so yeah, please send it to me
[08:43] <gabo> can anyone tell me how to mount a floppy, please?
[08:43] <pvd2000> samuli, I installed puppy linux for fun today and I must say its ridiculousy fast, not a replacement for ubuntu though.
[08:43] <samuli> what does it use for wm?
[08:43] <defendguin> why does the mplayer-skins package only have 2 stinking skins?
[08:44] <pvd2000> haha, Im not even running Xorg
[08:44] <samuli> oh, right :)
[08:44] <samuli> well I sort of want a desktop :)
[08:44] <pvd2000> Im running, Xvesa
[08:44] <pvd2000> it has a desktop I mean
[08:44] <samuli> ok.
[08:45] <Calgar> defendguin: because no one can be bothered to make any more?
[08:45] <Abountu> I trying to install easyubuntu
[08:45] <Abountu> I did what they said on the site
[08:45] <Abountu> and then
[08:45] <kbrooks> Abountu: and?
[08:45] <ubuntu_> my video card is ati but lspci says "unknown" how can i find out which one it is
[08:45] <Abountu> I got an error on the last command
[08:45] <odyssey> i have a question about k9copy
[08:45] <Abountu> Traceback (most recent call last):
[08:45] <Abountu> File "easyubuntu.py", line 10, in ?
[08:45] <pvd2000> wow they have easyubuntu now? Ubuntu is so easy to install:-x, hehe.
[08:45] <Calgar> hastesaver: are you going to send it to me please?
[08:45] <Abountu>  replace(confdir
[08:45] <defendguin> Calgar: its not like anyone has to make skins they just have to put them in the package
[08:45] <Abountu>  File "/home/charbel/easyubuntu/detect.py", line 113, in replace
[08:46] <Abountu> if "cdrom" in line or (line.startswith("deb ") and repos_URI == line.split()[1] ):
[08:46] <odyssey> does anybody use k9copy
[08:46] <Abountu> UnboundLocalError: local variable 'repos_URI' referenced before assignment
[08:46] <Abountu> can you help?
[08:46] <ed39> hi all im new to this
[08:46] <kbrooks> Abountu: do not paste
[08:46] <hastesaver> Calgar, look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13923
[08:46] <samuli> pvd2000, easyubuntu automatically installs rar, divx, mp3 etc. support.
[08:46] <pvd2000> gxine plugin works better for me than mplayer plugin in firefox
[08:47] <pvd2000> Ahhhh
[08:47] <pvd2000> that is convient
[08:47] <needlez> samuli: on that website gnome-look.org, where abouts should i go to download total package themes? the GTK 1.x section? or the GTK 2.x section?
[08:47] <kbrooks> samuli: may i correct you? "semi-automatically"
[08:47] <samuli> kbrooks, feel free to :)
[08:47] <Calgar> hastesaver: ok, what do i do with it? please
[08:47] <Abountu> kbrooks sorry
[08:47] <pvd2000> Ill keep in that mind for whenever I update to Dapper drake when the final release comes out.
[08:47] <kbrooks> samuli: EU does not install on run
[08:47] <ubuntu_> how can i find out what video card I have?
[08:48] <Abountu> anyone managed to install easyubuntu?
[08:48] <Flannel> ubuntu_: open your box and look?
[08:48] <samuli> needlez, I don't think there's anything as a package.. gtk 2.x is the controls, icons are icons and metacity is for the window decorations.
[08:48] <Calgar> ubuntu_: open the side of your computer
[08:48] <tonygeorge> hi i have updated ubuntu and since then I have no X windows. It says some error messages with "Unresolved symbols". Doing dpkt-reconfigure xserver-xorg didnt solve this problem. How can i get back the Xwindows?
[08:48] <ed39> tried to install new version
[08:48] <Karhuton> Dapper b2 doesn't come with LILO?
[08:48] <kbrooks> Abountu: its a bug
[08:48] <ubuntu_> Calgar, Flannel its a laptop you insensitive clods
[08:48] <Calgar> heh
[08:48] <Flannel> ubuntu_: you didn't specify that, now did you.
[08:48] <tonygeorge> im using breezy
[08:48] <shimondav> after installing "server" minimal installation, which package should i apt-get to get the minimal gnome gui?
[08:48] <odyssey> what software do you recommend to copy dvds
[08:48] <hastesaver> Calgar, put that as your /etc/apt/sources.list (if you're sure you want to :)
[08:49] <ubuntu_> Flannel, no i didn't
[08:49] <Flannel> Karhuton: it does, but you have to use expert install to install it.
[08:49] <ubuntu_> Flannel, so do you have any other suggestions?
[08:49] <Abountu> kbrooks, any known fix?
[08:49] <samuli> needlez, to install them you just download the tarballs (like rar's or zip-packages) and from the desktop move them to the theme-manager window.
[08:49] <_paulb> how do i set up vnc server so i can wiew my desktop if i have a dm such as xfce?
[08:49] <Karhuton> Flannel: I'm running the normal install and interupted the Grub installation. How can I install lilo instead, without re-running the whole installation?
[08:49] <needlez> samuli: hmm this all seems confusing. i'm sure i'll figure it out though
[08:49] <_jason> ubuntu_: lspci and/or lshw
[08:49] <comrade> I keep getting this problem with firefox, everytime I go to save a file under my user account it says /tmp/mi2bd8n7.exe could not be saved because you do not have permission to change the contents of that folder
[08:49] <kbrooks> Abountu: yes
[08:49] <samuli> needlez, it's very easy indeed :)
[08:50] <samuli> just ask for help when you're at that point.
[08:50] <kbrooks> Abountu: go into easyubuntu/trunk/detect.py
[08:50] <needlez> samuli: well this seems like something i should do once i have ubuntu installed, for now, im not going to worry about it
[08:50] <kbrooks> Abountu: Find "def replace(confdir):"
[08:50] <tonygeorge> or is there anyway to rollback a previous upgradation of ubuntu? or Can I re-install ubuntu without loosing data?
[08:50] <shimondav> after installing "server" minimal installation, which package should i apt-get to get the minimal gnome gui?
[08:51] <kbrooks> Abountu: then find "for line in sourceslist:"
[08:51] <odyssey> does anybody know what to use to copy dvds
[08:51] <ubuntu_> _jason, i did it says "unknown ATI"
[08:51] <Flannel> ubuntu_: you might try googling for your laptop, since you haven't changed it.
[08:52] <ubuntu_> Flannel, this laptop comes with various video cards depending on initial config
[08:52] <kbrooks> Abountu: on the blank space before that line, add "repos_URI = ''"
[08:52] <_paulb> how would i set up vncserver to use my computer thathas a dm such as efce?
[08:52] <Calgar> uh, how do i open sources.list not in read only?
[08:52] <_paulb> xfce
[08:52] <_jason> ubuntu_: what brand?
[08:52] <nickrud> tonygeorge, no real way to rollback; if you save everything under /home/tonygeorge you'll keep your data
[08:52] <kbrooks> Abountu: save and close the file
[08:52] <ubuntu_> _jason, dell
[08:52] <kbrooks> Abountu: rerun easyubuntu.py
[08:52] <Mercutio150> Hello does anyone know much about archiving?
[08:52] <ubuntu_> Mercutio150, man tar?
[08:53] <_jason> ubuntu_: you have a service tag somewhere on the computer, login to the dell support site and it will tell you I think, otherwise call dell and they can tell you
[08:53] <tonygeorge> nickrud: yes i did save everything under that directory. but will it be there if I re-install ubuntu on the same partition?
[08:53] <ubuntu_> _jason, k
[08:53] <Mercutio150> but is that going to put into multiple packets
[08:53] <nickrud> tonygeorge, no, you'll need to reload that onto the hard drive. You can avoid this for next time by making /home it's own partition
[08:53] <Calgar> how do i open sources.list as writable? please
[08:53] <Mercutio150> I have files bigger than 4G
[08:53] <Jowi> ubuntu: you might be able to find out by following the instructions on this page http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[08:54] <nickrud> Calgar, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[08:54] <Jowi> ubuntu_: ^^^
[08:54] <megaman123> anyone here with knowledge on dvb....can not scan "failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/fontend0'
[08:54] <gnomefreak> Calgar: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:54] <khaled> hi.. is the mono package in ubuntu complete ?
[08:54] <Abountu> kbrooks: sorry but I couldn't find "for line in sourceslist:" I couldn't find sourcelist neither
[08:54] <khaled> i can not find glib-sharp or gtk-sharp
[08:54] <gnomefreak> Calgar: if that doesnt work try gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:54] <ChoboMog> Hey.  Could someone help me with a possible compatibility problem with a new hard drive?
[08:54] <gnomefreak> "
[08:54] <peanutbutter7836> how do i set up vnc on xubuntu
[08:54] <ChoboMog> I'm running an old Pentium III PC and am planning to buy/install a 250gb hard drive which is on sale.  However, I've heard that there can be problems with an old BIOS and a hard drive above 137gb.  I know there is a utility from Intel, called the Application Accelerator, which can let me access the full 250gb even if my BIOS does not support it.  Unfortunately the utility is only offered for Windows, so there is no Linux support.
[08:55] <Abountu> kbrooks: there is "source.list" though
[08:55] <Kr0ntab> hehe... I guess there's an apt-get for windows, called win-get.  funny.. but pretty useful.  http://windows-get.sourceforge.net/
[08:55] <ChoboMog> The utility would work for me right now, since I am still running Windows XP.  However, I was planning on installing Drapper Drake when it is released on June 1st.  Does anyone know if a similar utility is available for Linux or if the drive might work, even with an old BIOS, as long as each partition is below 137gb?
[08:55] <tonygeorge> nickrud: ok, thats too bad. unfortunately i didnt make /home a seperate partition. :-( Any chance that I can only reinstall the x windows? I have the original installation CDs
[08:55] <Jowi> ubotu, tell peanutbutter7836 about vnc
[08:55] <kbrooks> Abountu: pm me
[08:55] <Sputnik_NL> Wat will run lighter on my system (AMD Athlon XP 1700+, 256mb RAM), GNOME or KDE?
[08:55] <nickrud> tonygeorge, oh, X, that's one of the big reasons downgrading can be harsh ;(
[08:55] <paradizelost> ChoboMog: i've found that a lot of the time, the linux kernel can see the data even if the bios doesn't
[08:55] <gnomefreak> Sputnik_NL: gnome
[08:55] <gnomefreak> Sputnik_NL: xfce ;)
[08:56] <Sputnik_NL> gnomefreak: how usable is xfce?
[08:56] <tonygeorge> nickrud: Sorry I didnt get you. What do you mean?
[08:56] <mDot> Sputnik_NLbarely...
[08:56] <Elazar> I'm trying to compile subcommander from source and I'm getting an error in what looks like a standard include. Source and error here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13924 Anyone know what the problem might be?
[08:56] <gnomefreak> Sputnik_NL: what do you mean usable?
[08:56] <gnomefreak> Sputnik_NL: i can do anything in xfce that i can do in anyother desktop
[08:56] <Sputnik_NL> gnomefreak: well how it preforms in every day use, so stability, ease-of-use
[08:57] <Karhuton> Flannel: can I boot the system on the hard drive via the installation cd, with something like boot: linux /dev/sda2 (if the default image is 'linux') ?
[08:57] <Sputnik_NL> gnomefreak: I read you
[08:57] <Karhuton> *linux root=/dev/sda2
[08:57] <Calgar> gnomefreak, i got this : (gedit:8982): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[08:57] <Calgar> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[08:57] <nickrud> tonygeorge, did you do a breezy to dapper upgrade? Why do you believe you need to roll back X anyway?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> Sputnik_NL: it works great as everyday use but for ease of use i find it very easy but thats me
[08:57] <gnomefreak> Calgar: it still opened right?
[08:58] <Calgar> yeah, but nothing was in it
[08:58] <Calgar> or, is there supposed to be nothing in there?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Calgar: run gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:58] <Sputnik_NL> gnomefreak: I see, looking the screenshots it reminds me of running WindowMaker in the past ;)
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Calgar: with the " this time
[08:58] <hastesaver> Hmm, if I enable the root account, I won't have to worry about incorrectly using sudo instead of gksudo...
[08:59] <paradizelost> hey, anyone wanna know the best enc. key for wireless?  abc123def4
[08:59] <paradizelost> :D
[08:59] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: not true
[08:59] <hastesaver> does starting something from "sudo -i" have the same effect as gksudo?
[08:59] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: what do you think gksu is?
[08:59] <tonygeorge> nickrud: no i didnt upgrade to dapper. it is still breezy. but it will show me a message that there are upgrades ready to install, so I clicked to install. Then it said i need to reboot, ok reboot. But after rebooting, a message said there was some error with X server and cannot be used. Showed me a lot of text from a log file.
[08:59] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: no
[08:59] <Calgar> gnomefreak: same thing happens
[08:59] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: sudo -i is not for gui sudo -s is iirc
[08:59] <gnomefreak> Calgar: nothing is in it?
[09:00] <tonygeorge> nickrud: sorry i mean it showed me a message that there....
[09:00] <nickrud> tonygeorge, ah, that's a fixable problem probably. try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:00] <gnomefreak> Calgar: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is what you are running?
[09:00] <Calgar> gnomefreak: yeah, nothing is there
[09:00] <nickrud> hastesaver, sudo -i or sudo -s : to see the difference, do an env | sort after each of sudo -i & sudo -s.  sudo -i is safer.
[09:00] <Calgar> gnomefreak: yes, and i tried it with and without the speech marks
[09:00] <tonygeorge> nickrud: I have tried it. but still cannot.
[09:00] <nickrud> hastesaver, try gksudo as well
[09:00] <gnomefreak> Calgar: you do have gnome installed right?
[09:00] <Calgar> im using gnome, yes
[09:01] <gnomefreak> Calgar: try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:01] <Karhuton> Can I boot the system on the hard drive via the installation cd, with something like boot: linux root=/dev/sda2 (if the default image is 'linux') ?
[09:01] <Blue89> I am chatting from a fresh 5.10 install, and loving every minute of it, but I noticed something strange: my opengl rendering is slower now than it was in windows. is there something I have to configure, or is it just the games I am playing? (the speed varies in game)
[09:01] <nickrud> tonygeorge, hm. Is there any way you can get a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.log onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  ?
[09:01] <hastesaver> Not to troll, but I've enabled the root account, and start gui apps from it fine. None of the arguments on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo seems convincing to me
[09:02] <kapputu> when I try to install xemacs I get an error about dependencies
[09:02] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: open cups
[09:02] <samuli> blue89, type fglrxinfo in the terminal.
[09:02] <Calgar> gnomefreak: its empty...
[09:02] <gnomefreak> Calgar: are you typing it the way i am?
[09:02] <nickrud> tonygeorge, there's a script you can run from the console that will paste those files, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[09:02] <megaman123> how can i install a firmware ??
[09:02] <nny> whats the packages for compiling (make, etc) ?
[09:02] <_jason> !b-e
[09:02] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[09:02] <gnomefreak> nny: build-essential
[09:02] <Calgar> gnomefreak: exactly
[09:03] <Blue89> samuli, command not found
[09:03] <tonygeorge> nickrud: I will try. but I only have links to browse internet. let me try if I can paste it. what is the scripts name?
[09:03] <hastesaver> gnomefreak, just to be clear, I login to the root account with "ssh -X root@machinename". After this, running GUI apps is perfectly fine, right?
[09:03] <samuli> hmm.. what card are you using?
[09:03] <nny> thanks1
[09:03] <nickrud> tonygeorge, it's at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Calgar: type this for me  gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:03] <gnomefreak> shoot
[09:03] <Blue89> I don't know, it is a laptop
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Calgar: dont type that
[09:03] <tonygeorge> nickrud: ok i will try.
[09:03] <samuli> blue89, probably you don't have opengl enabled.
[09:03] <Blue89> a toshiba satellite, if that helps
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Calgar: type this gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:04] <pvd2000> what package are the locate and whereis commands in?
[09:04] <sixpoint> my locate database isnt finding anything
[09:04] <sixpoint> how do I get it to rebuild ?
[09:04] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: cups has nothing to do with ssh
[09:04] <Blue89> so it is all software rendered now? crap
[09:04] <paradizelost> Blue89: is it an Intel vid. card?
[09:04] <Kr0ntab> hastesaver, running apps "regularly" as root is not impossible... just not the best practice.
[09:04] <Calgar> gnomefreak: same error, and same window with nothing in it......
[09:04] <nickrud> sixpoint, sudo updatedb
[09:04] <sixpoint> thanks
[09:05] <sixpoint> couldnt remember the command
[09:05] <Blue89> no clue, it is whatever this laptop is built with
[09:05] <gnomefreak> Calgar: can you join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:05] <sixpoint> just installed ubuntu
[09:05] <ubuntu_> _jason, dell chat room is terrible
[09:05] <hastesaver> If it's not offtopic, I'd like to know more about why sudo is better than su (for a single-user machine)
[09:05] <ubuntu_> _jason, i had to give them all my information and still havne't found out what driver it is
[09:05] <paradizelost> hastesaver: didn't you ask the same ? last night?
[09:05] <Calgar> gnomefreak: ok, i have joined it
[09:05] <samuli> blue89, try glxgears -info
[09:06] <sixpoint> hastesaver: google it
[09:06] <hastesaver> paradizelost, no!
[09:06] <gnomefreak> i see you
[09:06] <paradizelost> samuli: glxinfo would suffice for taht
[09:06] <paradizelost> hastesaver: k.  someone had the exact same ? last night...
[09:06] <nickrud> hastesaver, security is a continuum; what's right for some is not right for others. ymmv
[09:06] <Sputnik_NL> Is it recommend to run "firestarter" along with ubuntu?
[09:06] <_jason> ubuntu_: there is a dell chat room?
[09:06] <ubuntu_> Sputnik_NL, no its not becavuse there are no listening ports on ubuntu
[09:06] <paradizelost> hastesaver: lets say you accidentally do an rm -Rf /, as root, you'd be screwed
[09:06] <samuli> paradizelost, yeah, but you couldn't see the sweet gears and how fast they're turning. :)
[09:06] <ubuntu_> _jason, yeah some 1on1 thing
[09:06] <ubuntu_> _jason, i think its java not sure though
[09:06] <hastesaver> paradizelost, and if I do it with sudo, I'm equally screwed
[09:07] <Sputnik_NL> ubuntu_: Thanks
[09:07] <sixpoint> whats a good linux text editor ?
[09:07] <ubuntu_> Sputnik_NL, but if you really feel paranoid it won't hurt
[09:07] <paradizelost> hastesaver: but, with sudo, you have to enter your password, gives you a chance to correct your mistake
[09:07] <_jason> ubuntu_: tell sixpoint about editor
[09:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell sixpoint about editor=
[09:07] <samuli> I don't really like the sudo-thing either.
[09:07] <ubuntu_> sixpoint, emacs or vi is what most people use, some nano or gedit which are easier
[09:07] <Sputnik_NL> Are there any other programs who can improve ubuntu's security, a little like SElinux or AppArmor? (on Fedora/SUSE)
[09:07] <nickrud> sixpoint, gedit, gvim, emacs21, nano, my gosh, anjuta,
[09:07] <sixpoint> any graphical ones ?
[09:07] <paradizelost> hastesaver: plus, if you run apps as root, you run a risk of having hte system compromized
[09:08] <ubuntu_> Sputnik_NL, nah fedora has selinux and there is hardened debian iirc
[09:08] <paradizelost> hastesaver: just like you don't want apache running w/ root privileges
[09:08] <paradizelost> sixpoint: i use vim/gvim
[09:08] <Jimmey__> How do I specify a DNS address without X?
[09:08] <hastesaver> paradizelost, I only log in to root to do single things at a time anyway :)
[09:08] <sixpoint> I dont like vim
[09:08] <sixpoint> too complicated to learn
[09:08] <ubuntu_> Jimmey__, i think resolve.conf
[09:08] <ajamuk> hi!
[09:08] <paradizelost> hastesaver: well, then sudo should be fine for you.
[09:08] <nickrud> sixpoint, I'd recommend gvim, it's menu driven as well. Gedit is quick & nice
[09:08] <hastesaver> paradizelost, I don't run apps as root. I'm just saying, for the things for which it's recommended to use sudo, I use real root
[09:08] <ubuntu_> sixpoint, its really quite simple
[09:08] <LinuxJones> Sputnik_NL: you can install bastille it's a hardening program for linux
[09:08] <sixpoint> call me a newb, but I like the way dreamweaver editor works
[09:09] <ajamuk> can anything read me?
[09:09] <Jimmey__> ubuntu_, where's that
[09:09] <paradizelost> hastesaver: the only reason i enable login as root, is to be able to do scp of protected files
[09:09] <hastesaver> paradizelost, but sudo asks me to type a password, which is a pain, and more importantly, it doesn't work with X apps
[09:09] <Sputnik_NL> ubuntu_: No no need for extra applications/services?
[09:09] <ubuntu_> sixpoint, i can email you an emacs quick reference sheet that will get you learning emacs in no time. its pdf. just pm me your email if you want it
[09:09] <_jason> ajamuk: read you?
[09:09] <ajamuk> alguien habla espaol?
[09:09] <_jason> !es
[09:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:09] <ubuntu_> Sputnik_NL, i don't understand what your asking
[09:09] <Sputnik_NL> LinuxJones: I'll take a look
[09:09] <paradizelost> hastesaver: a minor modification to /etc/sudoers fixes that... :D
[09:09] <hastesaver> paradizelost, even the GUI apps?
[09:09] <ubuntu_> Jimmey__, not sure let me look a sec
[09:10] <Cerveza> what is the apt-get package for x11 development?
[09:10] <LinuxJones> Sputnik_NL: here's a link >> http://www.bastille-linux.org/
[09:10] <ubuntu_> Jimmey__, its in /etc
[09:10] <Sputnik_NL> ubuntu_: I'm just interested in applications/services to make Ubuntu secure, like fedora ans suse claim with SElinux and AppArmor.
[09:10] <nickrud> Cerveza, x-window-system-dev gets you everything, including the kitchen sink
[09:10] <ubuntu_> Sputnik_NL, i don't know Im not really into security
[09:10] <paradizelost> hastesaver: w/ that modification, nothing that is sudo-ish will ask for a password.
[09:10] <tonygeorge> nickrud: i have pasted successfully :-) please check this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13925
[09:10] <ferronica> j/ #windows
[09:10] <paradizelost> pm me if you want to know more.
[09:11] <Sputnik_NL> ubuntu_: Thanks though :)
[09:11] <ferronica> j\ #windows
[09:11] <Sputnik_NL> LinuxJones: Thanks for the link, looks interesting.
[09:11] <Cerveza> thanks nickrud
[09:12] <nickrud> tonygeorge, do you have xserver-xorg-driver-mga installed?
[09:12] <calamari> hi
[09:12] <Jimmey__> ubuntu_, thank you
[09:12] <paradizelost> any one know if there's a reason that ubuntu doesn't use superadduser by default?
[09:13] <paradizelost> let you specify groups when you create the user
[09:13] <tonygeorge> nickrud: how can i check? i know that my card is a matrox card.
[09:13] <calamari> my only video choice seems to be 60Hz, how do I tell it I want better choices?
[09:13] <Blue89> I di what you said, it ran for a few seconds at full speed, then the whole computer locked up
[09:13] <nickrud> tonygeorge, the easy way to see is to type apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-driver-mga  , and it will tell you which version you have installed under Installed:
[09:13] <Jimmey__> calamari, you've got to write the choice you want to xorg.conf, in /etc/X11
[09:14] <ubuntu_> _jason, dell told me i have integrated intel video but lscpi shows ati?
[09:15] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: laptop or desktop?
[09:15] <calamari> Jimmey__: okay I'm editing that file, but I'm not sure what to change
[09:15] <ubuntu_> paradizelost, laptop
[09:15] <Hso> question, is there a way to clear history/cookies/etc in Firefox on the ubuntu Livecd? I cannot see that option in the Tools menu :(
[09:15] <lufis> How can i get my ntfs partition to show up on my desktop? it's already mounted and everything
[09:15] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: what did you ask for when you bought it?
[09:15] <tonygeorge> nickrud: yes i have it. version 6.8.2-77.1
[09:15] <paradizelost> !dell
[09:15] <ubotu> dell is, like, totally, Check http://support.dell.com for hardware issues
[09:15] <ubuntu_> paradizelost, i didn't buy it
[09:15] <paradizelost> if you go there, and type in the service tag, it'll tell you what the original configuration was
[09:16] <ubuntu_> paradizelost, i doesn't
[09:16] <ubuntu_> paradizelost, it
[09:16] <Blue89> lspci show this: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[09:16] <_jason> ubuntu_: what's your service tag?
[09:16] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: you need to get to the area where it lists the waranties.
[09:16] <paradizelost> i know it does
[09:16] <paradizelost> what's the service tag
[09:17] <keNzi> anyone can help me with this - http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zrzutekranu3rr.png
[09:17] <megaman123> need some help here plz :) i found this dvb-driver.tar.bz2 in the /usr/src/modules folder .... how do i install this file ???
[09:17] <calamari> anyone know how to enable other choices besides 60Hz?
[09:17] <keNzi> there are 3 warnings
[09:17] <paradizelost> calamari: it's a driver issue
[09:18] <Karhuton> How can I start expert installation mode in Dapper b2?
[09:18] <calamari> !nvidia
[09:18] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:19] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: what's the service tag on the bottom of the laptop, i'll tell you what it has for a video card
[09:20] <nickrud> tonygeorge, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-mga/+bug/43793 . Someone posted a hack fix at the end
[09:20] <dougie_> hi guys - I'm trying to get a microtouch usb touchscreen working per the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158666 but I don't have a /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:20] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: pm me if you want
[09:20] <dougie_> does anyone have any pointers on that?
[09:20] <dougie_> (the touchscreen does respond - just not calibrated correctly)
[09:21] <megaman123> anyone could help me out install this dirver.tar.bz2 package ??
[09:21] <tonygeorge> nickrud: yes. im still here. waiting for you.
[09:21] <nickrud> tonygeorge, look up :)
[09:21] <_jason> ubuntu_: I see what you are saying, they don't actually list a card, that probably means it was integrated then or someone messed up
[09:21] <nickrud> tonygeorge,  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-mga/+bug/43793 . Someone posted a hack fix at the end
[09:22] <ubuntu_> _jason, well dell said integrated in this chat thingie
[09:23] <dougie_> if I plug a device into the USB port should it always show up under a /dev/ttyUSB device?
[09:23] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: but your lspci said ati, which do you believe?
[09:23] <monkee13> bunzip2 dirver.tar.bz2  then tar -xvf dirver.tar
[09:23] <paradizelost> as i said, i'll look it up for you if you want
[09:23] <paradizelost> you have to know what you have to get it working right
[09:23] <ubuntu_> paradizelost, yeah i msgd u
[09:23] <tonygeorge> nickrud: yes. you wanted to know which version of xserver-xorg-driver-mga is installed on my pc. here it is :
[09:24] <tonygeorge> nickrud: version 6.8.2-77.1
[09:24] <megaman123> ok...another question... have this makefile file ... how do i build it ?
[09:24] <monkee13> ./configure && make && make install
[09:24] <rest> hi ist there a backup-tool  for the hole harddisk ?
[09:24] <nickrud> tonygeorge, I saw that. Your exact problem is shown at that link I gave you, and a potential fix is there as well
[09:24] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: i'm not seeing it
[09:24] <nickrud> tonygeorge, I don't have a matrox, so I can't actually test it :)
[09:25] <tonygeorge> nickrud: would you please give me that link again, i cannot see your message with a link other than that pastebin link. sorry.
[09:26] <zenlunatic> paradizelost, now?
[09:26] <nickrud> tonygeorge,  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-mga/+bug/43793 . Someone posted a hack fix at the end
[09:26] <tonygeorge> nickrud: ok i will try this. Thank you :-)
[09:27] <calamari> paradizelost: okay, I installed the nivida drivers and got the logo, but 60Hz is still the only choice that gnome gives to me.. what next?
[09:27] <nickrud> tonygeorge, those files that you're replacing will be automatically updated with the next xorg release, you might want to keep that file from matrox around
[09:28] <dougie_> hi guys - in terms of referencing a USB device - do they always appear as /dev/ttyXXX?
[09:28] <tonygeorge> nickrud: still writting down the long url. :) dont know how to copy and paste, no X.
[09:28] <monkee13> anyone know how to link up kOrginizer to google calander gmail?
[09:28] <robertl> dougie, depends on the USB device.
[09:29] <nickrud> tonygeorge, install gpm, it gives you a cut & paste mouse on the console
[09:29] <Jimmey__> Hello
[09:29] <robertl> and dougie, tty usually ref's a terminal.
[09:30] <dougie_> robertl: this is a touchscreen - i'm trying to calibrate it (ubuntu detects it (it responds)) but can't work out how to reference it for xorg.conf
[09:30] <dougie_> robertl: so USB wouldn't be ttyUSB0?
[09:30] <jmccc> need help diagnosing a boot hang, looks like kernel upgrade no longer recognizes SATA boot drive initrd
[09:30] <Jimmey__> Hello. I'm in non-graphical mode now, and I'm trying to install gnome/X11...I've got them installed, but when I try and "startx"
[09:30] <paradizelost> calamari: is there a reason you want higher than 60hz?
[09:30] <Jimmey__> It says something about the fonts.
[09:30] <tonygeorge> nickrud: ok i will try, that. it will be very helpful.
[09:30] <robertl> seing as how it's a touch screen I don't rightly know dougie.
[09:30] <nickrud> calamari, next you need to add HorizSync & VertRefresh for your monitor in the Monitor Section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:31] <calamari> paradizelost: yes, 60hz really hurts my eyes.. I need 85 or higher
[09:31] <dougie_> robertl: cool - thanks anyway mate
[09:31] <robertl> whats lsusb spit out at you?
[09:31] <dougie_> robertl: this was the guide i was following: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158666
[09:31] <Jimmey__> Is there a fonts pack that I can download?
[09:31] <tonygeorge> nickrud: sorry i cannot view that website because links showed an error that it doesn't support SSL.
[09:31] <dougie_> robertl: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0596:0001 MicroTouch Systems, Inc. Touchscreen
[09:31] <calamari> nickrud: ahh, that's it.. I guess it overwrote my old defaults.. thanks!
[09:31] <nickrud> tonygeorge, try lynx or elinks
[09:31] <jmccc> does anyone know if 2.6.15-21 or -22 have problems with SATA?  I can no longer boot
[09:32] <tonygeorge> nickrud: ok
[09:33] <calamari> brb
[09:33] <robertl> dougie, I fired up a sidebar so we aren't churning here.
[09:33] <gnomefreak> jmccc: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[09:33] <jmccc> gnomefreak: thanks
[09:33] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:33] <YoussefAssad> what's #ubuntu+1? /me goes to find out
[09:34] <dougie_> robertl: sorry mate - i'm a noob - how do I join the sidebar?
[09:34] <Olde> will sudo   install work for Debian Pkg in Ubuntu ?
[09:34] <megaman123> ladies and gentlemen...how do i install this driver file...is that a very hard question :)) i have this dvb-driver.tar.bz2 in the usr/src/modules folder... i want to install this file ...thank u anyone for helping out :))
[09:34] <robertl> dougie, should be a tab if you are using xchat... if not thats cool.
[09:34] <dougie_> i am - but don't see it
[09:34] <robertl> id that mutouch driver loaded on your box?
[09:34] <dougie_> I have an underscore after my nick
[09:35] <robertl> ooops. my bad.
[09:35] <robertl> dougie_
[09:35] <robertl> like so?
[09:35] <nickrud> megaman123, start by cd /usr/src && sudo tar xf  dvb-driver.tar.bz2  and read README & INSTALL
[09:35] <dougie_> yah!  :)
[09:35] <robertl> cool.
[09:35] <Jimmey__> How can I copy a directory?
[09:35] <LinuxJones> Olde: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[09:35] <nny> ok so close
[09:35] <Olde> yes
[09:35] <nny> i have my interface working with wireless ipw3945
[09:35] <paradizelost> jimMmy_: cp -Rfv /source/directory /destination/direcotry
[09:36] <nny> can't seem to get it to connect to my AP
[09:36] <robertl> so dougie_, is that driver on your box?
[09:36] <freemanen> my firefox crash then i am trying to go to another page other than the startpage what could be the problem?
[09:36] <Jimmey__> Thankyou
[09:36] <steveire> I have a creative zen plugged into my laptop. Any idea where in devices there is a reference to it?
[09:36] <nny> iwconfig eth1 essid belkin54g mode Ad-Hoc sound right?
[09:36] <robertl> lsmod |grep mutouch
[09:36] <steveire> I have kzenexplorer, but it doesn't let me browse the drivew
[09:36] <dougie_> k
[09:36] <calamari> nickrud: thanks, that fixed the 60hz problem
[09:36] <solene> ola
[09:37] <Falluccer> hey
[09:37] <Olde> bbl
[09:37] <nickrud> calamari, not a hard stretch ;)
[09:37] <paradizelost> nickrud: calamari, just wondering what was the fix for future reference?
[09:37] <dougie_> robertl: not mutouch - but i do have mtouchusb
[09:37] <Falluccer> hybrid: I reburned it and it worked
[09:37] <robertl> hmmm.
[09:37] <dougie_> mtouchusb               5888  0
[09:37] <dougie_> usbcore               104188  3 mtouchusb,uhci_hcd
[09:37] <hybrid> Falluccer: YAY!
[09:37] <nickrud> paradizelost, no useful monitor def in xorg.conf & ddcprobe didn't work for debconf
[09:38] <megaman123> nickrud: it extarcted 3 folders and 1 "Makefile" file, but no read me files
[09:38] <nickrud> or whatever the debconf does
[09:38] <calamari> paradizelost: dpkg-reconfigure says that it will use monitor defaults (and I assumed it used the old values in xorg.conf), but it doesn't.. it changes the values to its own defaults which enforces 60hz.. so I had to copy the horiz/vert lines out of my old xorg.conf to the new one
[09:39] <paradizelost> ahhh.  k
[09:39] <nickrud> megaman123, I'd look to the website you got it from for a howto.
[09:39] <basti__> Hello
[09:39] <Jimmey__> I can't get X to work! It says something like: "Could not load default font: 'Fixed'"
[09:39] <Jimmey__> What's the problem?
[09:39] <megaman123> i didn't get it from anywhere ... i found it there
[09:39] <carl> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with my SATA drive... I just bought one and plugged it in, but how do I mount it?
[09:39] <basti__> where to find the sources installed via cvs?
[09:39] <megaman123> i guess it was installed with the system
[09:40] <calamari> Jimmey__: most likely there is another error
[09:40] <iNiku> Jimmey__: your xfont packages are probably broken somehow, I remember someone else having that problem as well
[09:40] <Jimmey__> calamari, there's several, but they all seemed to be regarding fonts
[09:40] <iNiku> X will die if the 'fixed' font is not available
[09:40] <paradizelost> !mount
[09:40] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:40] <robertl> dougie_ is xserver-xorg-input-mutouch installed?  sudo aptitude search server-xorg-input-mutouch
[09:40] <Jimmey__> I've copied my X11 directory from a working dapper install partition
[09:40] <paradizelost> Jimmey__: why are you trying to use Xorg 7 configs w/ xorg 6.x?
[09:41] <dougie_> robertl: yes - i   xserver-xorg-input-mutouch      - X.Org X server -- muTouch input driver
[09:41] <Jimmey__> I'm not - I did a server install of Dapper
[09:41] <robertl> dougie_, cool.
[09:41] <mart> can anyone tell me how to run mysql on breezy?  installing it gives a shed-load of errors.
[09:41] <Falluccer> how do I install drivers for my USB internet adapter?
[09:41] <megaman123> what are Kconfig files?
[09:41] <nickrud> megaman123, weird. That's not a default thing. Did you install dvb-driver-source for some reason?
[09:41] <iNiku> Jimmey__: try reinstalling xfonts-base, xfonts-75dpi and xfonts-100dpi
[09:42] <Jimmey__> Okay
[09:42] <carl> Anyone? shouldn't it be HDBx? but it's not... there isn't even any hdb in /dev/
[09:42] <megaman123> i want to get my dvb card to run..its a nexus-s card
[09:42] <_r_a_b_> is there  a ubuntu server channel?
[09:42] <paradizelost> carl: SATA is /dev/sd
[09:42] <Skwid_> ahum
[09:42] <Skwid_> is there a command to rename files in a folder
[09:42] <iNiku> Jimmey__: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi
[09:42] <Skwid_> (add a prefix ??)
[09:42] <paradizelost> SATA is always recognized as a SCSI device
[09:42] <Falluccer> does anyone know how I can install my netgear usb adapter drivers
[09:42] <Falluccer> all the drivers on the CD are for windows
[09:43] <robertl> dougie_, try using the mutouchusb as an entry in xorg. it comes up in the lsmod so I believe thats what needs to be called <hunch disclaimer> =)
[09:43] <paradizelost> Falluccer: could use ndiswrapper
[09:43] <paradizelost> !ndiswrapper
[09:43] <carl> paradizelost: so what should the device be called then?
[09:43] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:43] <gringo> hi guys. anyone knows a desklet-like app for gmail and google calendar?
[09:43] <paradizelost> carl: /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[09:43] <paradizelost> something like that
[09:43] <_r_a_b_> is there  a ubuntu server channel?
[09:43] <paradizelost> how many other SATA drives do you have in the system
[09:43] <nickrud> megaman123, I don't know much about video recorders on computers, but from what I see your drivers are already present in the ubuntu kernel.
[09:44] <Skwid_> _r_a_b_: #ubuntu-server ?
[09:44] <megaman123> how can i find out...when i try to run any prog it gives me an error!!!
[09:45] <eduardo> Hi folks. I have a problem with Ubuntu Dapper Beta. I installed it in my Satellite Notebook and now it no off. Anybody know something?
[09:45] <Skwid_> anyone ?
[09:45] <steveire> Any ideas how I can see what's plugged into my laptop usb? I had a look around /dev, but I don't know what I'm looking for
[09:45] <dougie_> robertl: ok - will do - thanks again for that mate!!
[09:45] <Fuzzy76> Could anyone tell me how to get a permanent userlist in the x-chat-gnome client shipped with dapper?
[09:45] <paradizelost> eduardo: dapper stuff is #ubuntu+1
[09:45] <sklav> hi guys
[09:45] <paradizelost> Fuzzy76: use #ubuntu+1
[09:45] <Fuzzy76> thanks, paradizelost
[09:46] <nickrud> megaman123, this may be overkill, but http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php might help
[09:46] <Skwid_> is there a command to rename files in a folder (add a prefix)
[09:46] <megaman123> will look at it ...thanks :)
[09:46] <nickrud> megaman123, I vouch for nothing there :)
[09:47] <_jason> Skwid_: rename, or a for loop involving mv
[09:47] <skk> Skwid_: for i in *; do mv $i prefix_$i;done
[09:47] <Skwid_> skk: thanks
[09:47] <megaman123> :)) ...this is the guide that im using :) and i can't get past the first part where it tries to scan the channels :)))
[09:48] <nickrud> megaman123, did you do the link for the old card, http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_novafw.php
[09:48] <robertl> dougie_, hope it helps some... seems like a good howto, just a little different.
[09:48] <robertl> from what you are looking at.
[09:49] <megaman123> no .. i'll check that now
[09:49] <Skwid_> skk: worked perfectly, thx :)
[09:49] <nickrud> megaman123, you might want to look in /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t for a more appropriate place to scan, as well
[09:49] <steveire> If I run an application in the terminal, is it supposed to tell me what the application is doing, or is there some other way I can find out?
[09:50] <skk> Skwid_: Great :)
[09:50] <robertl> steveire, depends on the app.
[09:51] <megaman123> i tried the scan command, but the problem is with opening the frontend of the device
[09:52] <basti__> When I try to install banshee from CMS, I
[09:52] <basti__> When I try to install banshee from CVS, I get the following error ==> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13928
[09:53] <basti__> sorry, the first was a fault
[09:53] <basti__> :)
[09:53] <nickrud> megaman123, since I don't have one to play with here, I think I'm about to exceed my level of competency on this one. You might get some more knowledgeable help on #mythtv
[09:53] <paradizelost> ubotu: tell jhenn about easyubuntu
[09:53] <JDahl> is there a problem with latest Gnome packages in Dapper? I don't get any menus or taskbars when in Gnome sessions - just the background
[09:53] <kbrooks> paradizelost: :-)
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> JDahl,  sounds like the gnome settings or somthing got trashed.
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> JDahl,  check and see if with a new user the stuff works.. (or rename/move your .gnome* dirs)
[09:54] <szoller> no idea?
[09:54] <JDahl> Dr_Willis, I tried removing .gnome*, but that didn't help - creating a new user is a good idea, though
[09:54] <tonygeorge> nickrud: yes that solved my problem. Thank you very much :-)
[09:54] <nickrud> tonygeorge, heh. swing a cat long enough, you're bound to hit something :)
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> JDahl,  ya - it may be a .gconf* or some other dir as well
[09:55] <szoller> :(
[09:55] <megaman123> thanks :)
[09:55] <tonygeorge> nickrud: :-)
[09:57] <Abountu> years ago I remember I used to use a program called qview to browse photos on my disk
[09:57] <nickrud> megaman123, and by the way, if you look for more help go to #mythtv-users ;)
[09:57] <Abountu> is there a similar application to qview in ubuntu?
[09:57] <nickrud> Abountu, gthumb
[09:58] <Abountu> nickrud, thank you
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> heh - ive even used wine and 'irfanview' :P
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> depends on your viewing needs.. thers a great many image viewers out now
[09:58] <Abountu> nickrud: do you know if I can make it the defaut app to open photos? (jpg, png, bmp, gif...)
[09:58] <nickrud> Abountu, uh, I think I got that one wrong, a hex editor? ghex
[09:59] <Abountu> ah no no
[09:59] <Abountu> gthumb looks fine
[09:59] <nickrud> Abountu, right click each file type, choose properties, and set it with the 'open with' tab
[09:59] <nickrud> Abountu, you need to do it for each type
[09:59] <AlmtyBob> I want to catalog all my back up DVD-Rs, is there some way to make a script so when I insert a disc into my drive it will automatically do something like "ls /mount/cdrom > ~/volumelabel.txt"?
[09:59] <Falluccer> when using ndiswrapper, which utilities should I download to put on my computer running the wireless usb adapter
[10:00] <paradizelost> !ndiswrapper
[10:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> AlmtyBob,  ya could proberly disable the auto-mounting stuff and make a script to do it. you may have to manually run the script with each dvd insertion however.
[10:01] <delmar> Anyone here used or using Azureus? I'm running it on ubuntu 5.10 and it's not working properly. Files just wont start, but the same torrents start up almost immediatly wen I boot back to windows.  I've opened the port and forwarded it from the firewall, and set that port up on both linux and windows versions but the linux version just wont start the torrents downloading.  Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
[10:01] <Abountu> nickrud: can you tell me for example for one type, and I'll try to figure out for the others...
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> you sure your ip you are port forwarding/opening ae the same under both windows/linux?
[10:02] <Abountu> nickrud, can I pm you?
[10:02] <AlmtyBob> Dr_Willis: I was trying to find a way to do it so it'll automatically run the script run it's mounted
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> azureus uses that upnp stuff on my router. :P i dident have to mess witht he ports.
[10:02] <delmar> Dr_Willis, sure.. I've checked that, and the Test works on both.
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> AlmtyBob,  that will be much harder to do. SOme days it pays to just 'do it all'
[10:02] <nickrud> Abountu, right click a jpeg. At the bottom of that menu, there's an Item Properties. Select that. In the dialog that pops up, there's a tab called 'Open With'. Select the white circle next to gthumb, and close
[10:03] <AlmtyBob> doh
[10:04] <delmar> Dr_Willis, yep. its nice when that happens.   The Azureus test comes back OK on both.  Its the same IP being used on either windows or Linux, and the port is the same on the firewall pointing to that IP etc... that part is setup OK.
[10:04] <Abountu> nickrud: it's refusing to move ... does it have to do with me not root?
[10:04] <delmar> I have a feeling that it might be an issue with the JRE/Java version that is installed on here
[10:04] <robertl> delmar, what does lsof -i :6881 return (with azereus running)?
[10:04] <nickrud> Abountu, no, this should be for yourself. And, you must click the circle, not just the name of the app. Frustrating
[10:05] <victor__> hi all. I got a doubt. Does Kopete use tabs instead of separated windows?
[10:05] <victor__> like gaim does
[10:05] <ajo> hi hv a prob in ma mplayer, even while playing wmv files in fullscreen it plays only in a small window..
[10:05] <ajo> but the same file plays fine in xfmedia
[10:05] <hastesaver> victor__, gaim also uses tabs
[10:05] <delmar> robertl, that isnt the port im using... i don't need to use that port specifically, i can use any port as long as I tell Azureus what port it is I have open anf forwarded.
[10:06] <delmar> robertj, just a sec. ill fire it up and start a test torrent and see
[10:06] <nickrud> ajamuk, try mplayer -vo xv <filename> , does that go full screen properly?
[10:06] <robertl> delmar, ok. is it listening on the port you want it to? =)
[10:06] <nickrud> ajo, sorry, that just above was for you
[10:06] <victor__> hastesaver, yeah, that's what i said (or what i've tried lol)
[10:06] <Abountu> nickrud.. still not working :-( .. I clicked all over the place!
[10:06] <ajo> nickrud, thankx..
[10:06] <delmar> robertj, looking.... it must be since it's in-built Test returns an OK result
[10:06] <victor__> the problem is that gaim has gone crazy, and it only writes what i type when it wants
[10:07] <nickrud> Abountu, I just did it here ...
[10:08] <hastesaver> victor__, oh, sorry. Yes, from what I've heard, Kopete uses tabs too.
[10:08] <Jimmey__> I'm looking for a light-weight web browse.
[10:08] <nickrud> ajo, if that works properly, there's a complete config at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[10:08] <Zane42> Looking for help with nzb files in ubuntu.
[10:08] <delmar> robertj, hrm. so the test works fine, but when i do what u say...while its running... i get no result
[10:08] <delmar> robertj, using the port i have set not 6881 of course...
[10:08] <victor__> hastesaver, thanks! :D
[10:09] <Zane42> I downloaded nzbperl.pl But I'm not limitted to using that one.  Any that would work I would be happy with.
[10:09] <ajo> ok..
[10:09] <Abountu> nickrud, well it're really not working... it there a config file where this gets written to, so I can add it there manually?!
[10:09] <delmar> robertj, it never downloads any traffic... not a single bit... but occasionally it changes from red, to blue, then to red.. and occasionally from red to green, then back to red...all the while.. never downloading a thing
[10:10] <Jowi> Jimmey__: (super lightweight terminal) links, elinks, lynx. (terminal with graphics) w3m. (fast gui but not feature rich) dillo, w3c. (others) opera, firefox, konqueror, epiphany-browser
[10:10] <Jimmey__> Thankyou
[10:10] <Jimmey__> Jowi, what about file browsers? Like nautilus?
[10:11] <idefix> what is the file system of a DVDrom?
[10:11] <Jowi> Jimmey__: Rox-filer is king. Thunar is ok as well
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> idefix,  UDF often.. or ISO
[10:11] <Jimmey__> Thankyou
[10:12] <nickrud> Abountu,  I think it's in ~/.local/share/applications
[10:12] <high-freq> can someone help me with a pcmcia card...i have an older one...but dmesg says  prism_config() failed
[10:12] <high-freq> and also loads up orinoco as well.
[10:13] <Abountu> nickrud: ok let me check this ... thanks
[10:13] <robertl> delmar, i just tried it here with my box, and with azureus running I am showing 4 connections using lsof. do you use a firewall on the box?
[10:13] <nickrud> Abountu, a stab in the dark would be changing the window theme to default, it's very easy to see which dot has the circle ...
[10:14] <Abountu> nickrud: change the window them to default? how?
[10:14] <delmar> robertj, iptables -L reports Accept on all.. no firewall is in place
[10:15] <idefix> how can you change the DVD-code of your DVD-player?
[10:15] <nickrud> Abountu, system->preferences->theme, but that's just a stab in the dark. I really think you're missing the tiny click point
[10:15] <robertl> delmar, another avenue to check is to use strace -c [path/to/azureus]  fire up a torrent, let it run and then kill it (the app). check there for various errors.
[10:16] <nickrud> idefix, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has a section on changing the region code
[10:16] <delmar> robertj, lets check some settings a moment... ive setup 6881 on the router as well, just to rule that out as well
[10:16] <Zane42> is anyone here familiar with using nget, nzbget, or nzbperl?  I've tried all three without any success.
[10:16] <delmar> robertj, under connection... i have all things ticked
[10:17] <delmar> robertj, nothing for proxy options
[10:17] <delmar> robertj, advanced network, what do you have setup in there?
[10:18] <robertl> delmar, strace -o [file-name]  azureus   fire up a torrent, let it run a bit... kill the app and comb for interesting things like maybe permissions are off on some lib it needs maybe...
[10:18] <pvd2000> Hoe can you get .mkv files to play subtitles with gxine or mplayer?
[10:19] <delmar> robertj, ok i set 6881 restarted Azureus and now i see two lines... java    28275 delmar   13u  IPv4  63628       TCP *:6881 (LISTEN)
[10:19] <robertl> delmar... one sec i am checking my connection settings.
[10:19] <delmar> robertj, the second line is UDP and doesn't have (LISTEN)
[10:19] <robertl> delmar... oooooooh.
[10:19] <voraistos> hey people, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and the tool to configure mouse doesnt work for my (synapticS) touchpad. how can i change the config files to make it less sensitive ?
[10:19] <delmar> robertj, still no joy with the torrent however
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> voraistos,  edit the xorg.conf by hand
[10:19] <delmar> robertj, but lets gib it a minute
[10:20] <robertl> delmar, hm, might need to have that UDP listening... checking.
[10:20] <Abountu> nickrud: does editing gthumb-usercreated.desktop, and adding in the MimeType=image/jpeg;image/jpg;image/gif ... work? do you thing that would work?
[10:20] <nickrud> Abountu, it might. You could always delete it if it doesn't :)
[10:20] <voraistos> Dr_willis: ok, ill try that. will i have to restart xserver to see it working ?
[10:20] <untung> hi can win client log into ubuntu server?
[10:20] <delmar> robertj, its really frustrating when u have a few hours worth of downloads queued under windows and can't boot back to linux to play with stuff :P
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> voraistos,  any changes to the xorg.conf require a total restart of X. NOT just a logout/backin to GDM
[10:21] <delmar> but since running Everquest under Cedega is such a pig, I need to be in windows half the time anyway
[10:21] <robertl> delmar, sounds like hell! hey check this out. http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php?title=Why_ports_like_6881_are_no_good_choice
[10:21] <Abountu> nickrud:changing to another theme didn't help
[10:21] <Abountu> it's definetly locked
[10:22] <voraistos> Dr_Willis: okok. i wasnt sure, since with the gnome tool i dont need an x restart
[10:22] <robertl> delmar, I installed azureus local to my home directory as well.
[10:22] <delmar> robertj, exactly. thats why i didnt wanna use it... ISP's and people that are anoyed at file sharing apps block 6881
[10:22] <pvd2000> how can you get .mkv files to play in gxine? it already plays mkv files just doesn't show subtitles.
[10:22] <delmar> robertj, latest version?
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> voraistos,  not sure what that gnome tool did. :P but i doubt if it altered the xorg.conf.
[10:22] <delmar> robertj, what version of ubuntu are u using?
[10:23] <robertl> I just call it by striking alt-f2, /home/robertl/azureus/azureus
[10:23] <delmar> robertj, im gonna switch the port back, restart Azureus and check for the listen again
[10:23] <robertl> still breezy.
[10:23] <nickrud> Abountu, that is very strange. Try changing another mime type, like txt. See if you can alter it. If it's only gthumb (which works here) you may have stumbled over a bug
[10:23] <pauldaoust> okay, here's a question for you RAID gurus: I have two 20 GB discs and a 40 GB disc. Is it possible to use the md software RAID driver to get a nested RAID 1+0 thingy going on?
[10:23] <voraistos> Dr_willis: system->preferences->mouse . would be cool if they fixed that on dapper
[10:23] <robertl> delmar. ok.
[10:23] <pauldaoust> specifically, I'm looking to stripe the two smaller discs and then mirror them onto the larger disc.
[10:24] <robertl> delmar, if it doesn't work try the strace... is it installed system wide? installed as root as a deb or make install?
[10:24] <pauldaoust> wait, I'm bass-ackwards. I need a RAID 0+1 setup
[10:25] <Abountu> nickrud: let me check (if so that would be the second bug today, not bad for my first day on ubuntu)
[10:25] <Skwid_> anyone got a good fstab link ?
[10:25] <robertl> /etc/fstab =)
[10:26] <delmar> robertj, ok same as before with 6881 only the new port.. when i checked before.. i transposed two numbers hence why i couldnt find the port listening :P
[10:26] <Skwid_> robertj: a help link, with all the options and stuff
[10:26] <delmar> robertj, so im getting the same results.. tcp listen.. udp not
[10:26] <Calgar__> anyone have any ideas why nslookup is resolving the ubuntu archives as 1.0.0.0? i think its my router, but i have no idea what to do about it, anyone got any ideas please?
[10:26] <delmar> robertj, is that what u get?
[10:26] <pauldaoust> Abountu: the one I always use is 'man fstab'... I find it has most of the info I need.
[10:26] <robertl> delmar, checking...
[10:27] <Abountu> pauldaoust: it's not me who asked about fstab, thx anyway ;-)
[10:27] <Skwid_> pauldaoust: ok thx
[10:27] <pauldaoust> Abountu: oop, sorry :S
[10:28] <nickrud> don't we all love the tab-completion demon :)
[10:28] <pauldaoust> nickrud: naw, can't blame it on tab-completion; I just wasn't concentrating :)
[10:28] <Trip348> Hi, what is the ext3 file system? Can ubuntu be installed on Fat32 or does it have to be ext3?
[10:28] <paganini> Hi guys
[10:29] <paganini> I have a kind of weire network interface question
[10:29] <robertl> delmar, both TCP and UDP...high port ranges... anyway is the app installed sys wide?
[10:29] <Abountu> Trip348: I dont' think ubuntu will run easily on FAT
[10:29] <nickrud> Trip348, absolutely not the fat32, it doesn't handle file permissions.
[10:29] <paganini> My ubuntu box is on a windows network, so I have samba installed to access their shared folders and to share folders with them
[10:29] <Trip348> okay
[10:29] <pauldaoust> Trip348: I guess Ubuntu could conceivably be installed on FAT32, but it'd be a nightmare if it were. ext3 is just ext2 (the standard Linux filesystem) with journalling, which helps Linux figure out what went wrong in the event of a file write error.
[10:29] <delmar> robertj, yeah i stuck it in /usr/share/azureus
[10:29] <Trip348> so the linux partition can't be read by windows
[10:30] <delmar> robertj, so you have LISTEN on both tcp and udp?
[10:30] <Abountu> Trip348: if you want to try ubuntu before installing it, try the live cd
[10:30] <paganini> When I go to places -> network servers to use the built-in network browser, sometimes (not always) I get a box that says "you must log in to access <my internal IP address> on MSHOME."
[10:30] <nickrud> Trip348, sure it can, there's a program called e2explore, and there's also an installable filesystem driver for ext3 on windows
[10:30] <paganini> And it asks for my password
[10:30] <delmar> robertl, i get lots of stuff like this in the logs... [8:28:55.760]  {peer} Peer connection closed: failed to establish outgoing connection: select registration: channel is closed;   etc etc
[10:30] <pauldaoust> Trip348: ext2 and ext3 can, with a lovely Windows filesystem driver that works great (although it completely ignores access permissions, so any Windows user can read/modify any file on the Linux partition)
[10:30] <paganini> No matter what I type there, it keeps coming back and won't let me continue
[10:30] <Trip348> great
[10:30] <pauldaoust> Trip348: forget where you can get the driver though; one sec
[10:31] <levander> What the hell is the deal with all the xorg packages getting updates in breezy?
[10:31] <robertl> delmar, for kicks try installing it in your home dir as your plain old user self and then just call it from the cli with
[10:31] <paganini> But, if I click cancel, it pops up the dialogue that asks for hte password to unlock my keyring. When I thpe that in, everything is fine.
[10:31] <delmar> pauldaoust, yeah i had that driver.. there is evena 64bit one around
[10:31] <levander> I've never seen so many packages getting updates
[10:31] <paganini> soop__, what is that "you must log in" box, where does it come from, and why does it only appear SOMETIMES?
[10:31] <robertl> delmar, /home/delmar/azureus/azureus
[10:31] <robertl> delmar, /home/delmar/azureus/azureus &
[10:31] <Trip348> how much space do I need for the ubuntu install, I have about 7GB cleared in the end of my disk.
[10:31] <JDahl> I have some odd Gnome problems in Dapper: Gnome sessions never starts the taskbar or show any menus. I tried the obvious things such as wiping config files, but nothing helps.   /var/log/gdm complains about wacom, which I don't use and never installed
[10:31] <pauldaoust> Trip348: http://www.fs-driver.org/ -- I think that's the one I had success with
[10:31] <robertl> the & will shove it in the background.
[10:31] <levander> Trip348: 7GB is plenty, make sure to make a swap partition
[10:31] <Trip348> pauldaoust: thank you
[10:31] <delmar> robertj, k
[10:32] <nickrud> Trip348, that's plenty to check out ubuntu, you only really need about 2 GB
[10:32] <pauldaoust> Trip348: no prob!
[10:32] <Trip348> okay
[10:32] <robertl> delmar, not using a deb right?
[10:32] <Abountu> nickrud: it's not working for any file
[10:32] <robertl> delmar, tar.gz?
[10:32] <pauldaoust> so, hozzaboutit? anyone had experience with software RAID 0+1 before?
[10:32] <levander> Nobody knows why every single xorg package just got an update in breezy?  I hate having to update X cause it scares me something's going to go wrong and I'll have to reconfigure X.
[10:32] <Skwid_> in my fstab i have, iocharset=utf8
[10:33] <Skwid_> what would i need for iso ?
[10:33] <delmar> robertj, yeah was the .tar.gz from SF
[10:33] <sorush20> when dapper comes out i'm not upgrading.. cause my printer will not work.. as i@m loosing my hotplug system. I need the system to upload the firmware to the printer everytime ubunt boots..
[10:33] <Skwid_> ISO-8859-1 ??
[10:33] <needlez> YES!!!
[10:33] <needlez> IT WORKED!!!
[10:33] <robertl> delmar, cool.. me too.
[10:33] <pauldaoust> levander: didn't check the changelog today, myself; haven't ever had to reconfigure Xorg though.
[10:33] <needlez> i love linux..
[10:33] <TheSteveMonkey> what is the "support" lifetime for ubuntu dists for security fixes?
[10:33] <bron> anyone know of a good firefox plugin (for 1.5) to clear the location field?  diggler used to be good for that, but the latest has removed that feature (as far as I can tell)  :(
[10:33] <Snow_Shelter> why is my ld having problems? "/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../libc.so when searching for -lc"
[10:33] <pauldaoust> levander: (at least, not within the Dapper testing cycle)
[10:33] <nickrud> Abountu, then I have no clue, except to reiterate that I was ready to throw away this os until I realized I wasn't clicking the circle
[10:33] <levander> pauldaoust: well, i'm going for it, hate to do it, but...
[10:33] <Snow_Shelter> I'm trying to install wine-0.9.13, and there's no package for x86_64, and it wont compile because of this ld problem
[10:33] <Skwid_> please ? :(
[10:33] <levander> pauldaoust: it's not dapper, it's breezy, must be a security update
[10:34] <Calgar__> anyone have any ideas why nslookup is resolving the ubuntu archives as 1.0.0.0? i think its my router, but i have no idea what to do about it, anyone got any ideas please?
[10:34] <needlez> samuli: are you still around?
[10:34] <robertl> delmar, use the beginner setup.
[10:34] <TheSteveMonkey> Anyone?
[10:34] <Trip348> Thank you guys, I think I'll get started then and give it a try.
[10:34] <popey> TheSteveMonkey: 3 years, 5 for dapper as i understand it
[10:34] <robertl> delmar, I just defaulted everything and it morked.
[10:34] <nickrud> TheSteveMonkey, 18 months from release, except dapper, 5 years
[10:34] <popey> oh
[10:34] <pauldaoust> levander: oh. sorry... uh... using the Ubuntu update manager, you can see the changelog for each package, and it should tell you what it's modifying. Sometimes it even works!
[10:34] <levander> Calgar__: you do 'nslookup archives.ubuntu.com' and get back 1.0.0.0?
[10:34] <delmar> robertj, err. it doesn't ask me for setup.. because it's already setup.. the setup files are in /home/delmar/.azureus
[10:34] <Abountu> nickrud: he he he ... it's not that desperate I can always do an "open with"
[10:35] <robertl> delmar, heh.
[10:35] <delmar> robertj, ill blow it away and start again :P
[10:35] <needlez> can anyone here give me a list of programs that are similar to their windows version. do you understand? for instance MSN on windows is aMSN or Gaim on linux (i think) i need a list of stuff like that
[10:35] <needlez> please.
[10:35] <JDahl> it's very strange - indeed there is a "wacom" tablet PC inputdevice in my xorg.conf, but I don't know how or when that got added
[10:35] <pauldaoust> needles: gosh, there are so many. You'd be best off searching http://www.ubuntuforums.org for something like that.
[10:36] <astriskmanish> can any one tel me how to install kde on ubuntu
[10:36] <needlez> get Kubuntu
[10:36] <pauldaoust> needlez: sorry, that last msg was meant for you, but I typed 'needles' instead of 'needlez'
[10:36] <delmar> robertj, did u download or install anything to do with java or just instaled azareus as is... ?
[10:36] <Abountu> new question.... firefox in synaptic (and on the system) is version 1.0.8 and mozilla has released version 1.5.* I guess, is that normal? can I get the new one?
[10:36] <samuli> needlez, yeah.
[10:36] <hastesaver> astriskmanish, get the package "kubuntu-desktop"
[10:36] <Calgar__> levander: thats what happend before, now i am getting: ** server can't find archives.ubuntu.com: SERVFAIL
[10:36] <popey> needlez: http://hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/LinuxAdvocacy shows comparisons of windows and linux apps
[10:36] <delmar> robertj, i didn't want to mess up the already installed java stuff so left it alone.
[10:36] <robertl> delmar, i had java installed way before azureus.
[10:36] <JDahl> astriskmanish, if you already have ubuntu installed, you just install kubuntu-desktop. Then there's no need to get kubuntu
[10:36] <needlez> pauldaoust: its ok i understood
[10:37] <pauldaoust> :)
[10:37] <delmar> robertj, oh? did u install it manually or?
[10:37] <samuli> astriskmanish, get either package kde-core, kde or kubuntu-desktop with aptitude (if you want to easily remove it in case you don't like it)
[10:37] <astriskmanish> it gives some error message
[10:37] <TheSteveMonkey> popey why is dapper 5 years
[10:37] <nickrud> !ff1.5
[10:37] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:37] <kbrooks> EasyUbuntu "It's all new!" 3 has been released!
[10:37] <kbrooks> The EasyUbuntu Team is pleased to present EasyUbuntu 3.
[10:37] <kbrooks> EasyUbuntu 3 is the culmination of 6 months of hard work which will bring a tool to the new Ubuntu user. With no prior Linux experiance, this tool will let you install commonly requested tweaks, and a selection of restricted codecs.
[10:37] <kbrooks> There have been a few notable changes in EasyUbuntu 3: Dapper is supported (but EasyUbuntu is still compatible with Breezy), EasyUbuntu 3 is now written in Python, and many bugs have been squashed. Some of the applications that you can install are (depending on architecture) Codecs, Flash, Java and Skype.
[10:37] <kbrooks> You can download, install and run EasyUbuntu 3 with the instructions on the "Get EasyUbuntu" page (at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html), provided that you use this URL: http://www.robotgeek.org/eu/easyubuntu-3.0.tar.gz instead of the old URL.
[10:37] <delmar> robertj, cuz Openoffice needs java etc so i knew it was already installed... and i didnt want to isntall any java stuff manually cuz i dont want OpenOffice to break :P
[10:37] <nickrud> !paste
[10:37] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[10:37] <nickrud> :)
[10:37] <popey> TheSteveMonkey: because they decided it would be a good idea to have a long term support release
[10:37] <robertl> delmar, I used the java.com manual install but i believe breezy has the packages and for sure dapper does. I think you need to point to multiverse to get them.
[10:38] <kbrooks> nickrud: i couldnt put it in a pastebin
[10:38] <Abountu> uboto: thanks, I'll try it
[10:38] <TheSteveMonkey> popey is dapper the latest?
[10:38] <nickrud> kbrooks, a joke :)
[10:38] <popey> TheSteveMonkey: out on 1st june
[10:38] <kbrooks> nickrud: vertical scrollbars
[10:38] <TheSteveMonkey> popey cool thanks
[10:38] <popey> np
[10:38] <delmar> robertj, hrm. well azureus wouldnt even run if i didnt have it but... i can't help wondering if that is the problem.
[10:39] <astriskmanish> it give the following error msg...
[10:39] <astriskmanish> Reading package lists... Done
[10:39] <astriskmanish> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:39] <astriskmanish> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:39] <astriskmanish> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:39] <astriskmanish> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:39] <astriskmanish> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:39] <astriskmanish> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:39] <Calgar__> levander?
[10:39] <astriskmanish> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <needlez> samuli: do you have a list of programs for linux that is like a comparison chart for windows programs?
[10:39] <nickrud> astriskmanish, sudo apt-get update
[10:39] <popey> needlez: I just pasted one
[10:39] <needlez> oh!
[10:39] <needlez> my bad
[10:39] <Jowi> ubotu: tell astriskmanish about pastebin
[10:39] <popey> needlez:  http://hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/LinuxAdvocacy
[10:40] <erUSUL> astriskmanish: do not aste here please. use pastebin see topic
[10:40] <popey> needlez: scroll down on that page
[10:40] <delmar> Jowi, thank you :P
[10:40] <robertl> delmar, i think the OO java is self contained... thats a guess but I think it might be close to the truth. OO can run on a machine that can't view java online...
[10:40] <needlez> popey: thank you :)
[10:40] <astriskmanish> ok..
[10:40] <popey> no probs
[10:40] <nickrud> astriskmanish, if that fails, try removing the in. from in.archive.ubuntu.com , that repo may not be up
[10:40] <samuli> needlez, just try to avoid apt-getting kde-programs if you're using ubuntu (gnome)
[10:40] <AlmtyBob> is there a way to list all the ports on your system that have services running?
[10:41] <popey> AlmtyBob: nmap
[10:41] <nickrud> AlmtyBob, sudo netstat -tlp
[10:41] <delmar> robertj, im gonna re-download Az and check md5 this time
[10:41] <samuli> or else you're going to be downloading a lot of libraries you probably don't need.
[10:41] <AlmtyBob> thanks
[10:41] <robertl> AlmtyBob lsof -i (as root)
[10:41] <astriskmanish> after updating again it says that sudo apt-get update
[10:41] <robertl> delmar, ok.
[10:42] <astriskmanish> sorry.. its says that...Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[10:42] <robertl> delmar, try   strace -o [out-file-name]  azureus
[10:42] <kbrooks> samuli: do you concede that kde programs work on gnome
[10:42] <Pasqual> #join indymedia
[10:42] <delmar> robertj, ok will do that soon
[10:42] <jack1> who knows which mobile phones work very good with kontact reg. synchronization?
[10:42] <astriskmanish> so plz help me what to do??
[10:42] <nickrud> astriskmanish, then you probably have some bad sources, if you could put /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:43] <samuli> kbrooks, yeah they do.
[10:43] <samuli> some of them anyways.
[10:43] <Pasqual> #indymedia
[10:43] <Fu_^^Nichi> #jakarta
[10:43] <snowfaked> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is this the right way to go about installing ati drivers?
[10:43] <ompaul> Pasqual, /join #channelname
[10:44] <samuli> but I can't see the reasoning getting amarok for gnome for example, because you're downloading and installing 100mb+ worth of stuff with that.
[10:44] <samuli> and it's gonna be slower too.
[10:44] <samuli> and gonna look like grab :)
[10:44] <samuli> or crap
[10:45] <nickrud> snowfaked, they've been recommending that page here for months
[10:45] <snowfaked> ok
[10:45] <samuli> I did the way on wiki.
[10:46] <samuli> althought dpkg--reconfigure messes my monitor, so I simply just replaced "ati" with "fglrx" in xorg.conf.
[10:46] <samuli> worked like a char,
[10:46] <samuli> charm.
[10:46] <graveson> how do i manage kde application fonts etc
[10:47] <deus_> I got some problems with my 32 bit chroot and my cdrom
[10:47] <deus_> it wont mount on chroot/media/cdrom0
[10:47] <deus_> i added the option in the fstab but it wont work
[10:47] <deus_> so i cant use mplayer on the cd
[10:47] <astriskmanish> nickrud , i didnt get what u r trying to say..
[10:48] <nickrud> astriskmanish, the file /etc/apt/sources.list determines where ubuntu looks for packages. That's what seems to need to be fixed.
[10:49] <[D] ARKFENIX> hello everybody
[10:49] <nickrud> astriskmanish, you can show it to me, by opening it with gedit and pasting the contents of the file on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:49] <delmar> robertj, lol. new wierdness.... unpacked fresh, ran it.. set beginner etc.. hit finish... it hang for a few secs.. then i was able to close... the process is running but no gui or icon up the top or anything...
[10:50] <ezenu> anyone familar with tv tuners? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1010796
[10:50] <[D] ARKFENIX> i need help with k3b , i'm trying to burn a DVD but k3b says : "error : couldn't determine size of resulting image file"
[10:50] <deus_> somebody said i should copy the fstab for the regular system onto the chroot system is that wise?
[10:50] <Managu> ezenu: I've had some experience with NTSC tv tuners
[10:50] <robertl> delmar, weird magic.
[10:51] <delmar> robertj, killed process and restarted and it seems ok... testing torrent now
[10:51] <robertl> are your sources.list pointing to multiverse?
[10:51] <ezenu> Managu, I am trying to save the video to a file, but my tuner does software encoding, not hardware
[10:51] <dabaR> Hey. If I connect through a router, I can get to the Net. If I connect to a cable modem, using DHCP, I can get a proper IP address, but can not resolve DNS. Also, if I try pinging by IP address, I get an error message: connect: network is unreachable. How can I fix this?
[10:51] <needlez> does anyone know how to install the newest firefox? i downloaded the thingy, but i dont know what to do next.
[10:51] <robertl> delmar, cool... (makes warding sign in the air)
[10:51] <dabaR> !ff1.5
[10:51] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:52] <robertl> needlez, what exactly is a thingie? =)
[10:52] <Managu> ezenu: If you're the person who made the post you refer to, I'm not sure how to help.  MythTV was the first application I found that did a good job recording video and audio off of my BT878 based card
[10:52] <needlez> the .tar.gz file or whatever it was.
[10:52] <robertl> a .deb thingie or a tar.gz thingie?
[10:52] <robertl> oh. ok.
[10:53] <robertl> needlez, unpack it.
[10:53] <nickrud> !ff1.5
[10:53] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:53] <robertl> needlez,  tar -xzvf firefox <hit tab>
[10:53] <ezenu> Managu, yeah, that's me... If only I would've bought a hardware encoding tv tuner for $20 more, I wouldn't have had the problem
[10:53] <nickrud> needlez, that wiki page above will help you integrate 1.5 into ubuntu well
[10:53] <robertl> needlez,  ever install anything from the cli before?
[10:53] <Managu> ezenu: have a particular application in mind?
[10:53] <needlez> nope. this is the first time using linux
[10:54] <astriskmanish> nickrud i have send u that..
[10:54] <robertl> needlez, cool.
[10:54] <robertl> maybe follow nickrud's link
[10:54] <robertl> or unpack it in your home dir.
[10:54] <needlez> thats probably what i have to do.
[10:54] <needlez> lol
[10:54] <gnomefreak> dont unpack it in home
[10:54] <nickrud> astriskmanish, could you give me the link?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> unpack it in /opt
[10:55] <robertl> needlez, we all start somewhere.
[10:55] <ezenu> Managu, All I want to do is save video to a file. I can use tvtime to view TV easily. But it doesn't save. And mythTV is too complicated I think
[10:55] <Managu> ezenu: all I can offer are thoughts, not fully formed solutions.  There was a package called "vcr" that claimed to be able to record video from V4L interfaces.  It's quite possible that "mencoder", from the mplayer package can be coaxed into encoding video in real time
[10:55] <Kr0ntab> sup peepz
[10:55] <needlez> gnomefreak: so that file i downloaded from the firefoz site, i just unpack everything in it to the /opt directory and everything will be good? or is there more to do after that?
[10:56] <deus_> somebody said i should copy the fstab for the regular system onto the chroot system is that wise?
[10:56] <ezenu> Managu, ok thanks. i'll look those up
[10:56] <Kr0ntab> deus_, you dont have to...
[10:56] <Managu> ezenu: also, "apt-cache search "video capture"" turns up a few packages
[10:57] <gnomefreak> needlez: read the wiki that nickrud sent you theres a few steps you must do just download it and copy and paste the commands
[10:57] <gnomefreak> needlez: the tar command it gives will unpack it in /opt/ for you ;)
[10:57] <deus_> Kr0ntab: well, i added the regular /media/cdrom0  /chroot/media/cdrom0 but the chroot system cant see the files on the cdrom
[10:57] <robertl> or needlez, /usr/local =) i say follow the wiki instructions too.
[10:57] <astriskmanish> nickrud , here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13934
[10:57] <Kr0ntab> oic what yer trying to do
[10:57] <dabaR> Hey. If I connect through a router, I can get to the Net. If I connect to a cable modem, using DHCP, I can get a proper IP address, but can not resolve DNS. Also, if I try pinging by IP address, I get an error message: connect: network is unreachable. How can I fix this?
[10:58] <delmar> robertj, no good. doint strace now.
[10:58] <Kr0ntab> you'll need to make sure that you have appropriate /dev files for your cdrom...
[10:58] <robertl> delmar, ok.
[10:58] <Managu> dabaR: might be that you've got firestarter loaded and it's being a bit overzealous.  Try opening it up and turning your firewall off
[10:59] <dabaR> I have no firestarter installed.
[10:59] <dabaR> iptables are empty, and my ipmasq is off.
[10:59] <delmar> robertj, ill check the wiki for anything about manual java install or anything java related.
[10:59] <dabaR> Plus it all works on the same, dhcp protocol, but with a router.
[10:59] <robertl> dabaR,  what does  cat /etc/resolv.conf  show?
[10:59] <dabaR> I power cycled everything.
[10:59] <Kr0ntab> you don't have to use an fstab to mount the cdrom...  you can issue a mount command and do the same thing... provided you have a device file... and an emnpty directory for a mount point
[10:59] <Jowi> dabaR: is the computer connected straight to the cable modem or do you have something inbetween?
[10:59] <nickrud> astriskmanish, oookkk. You are going to have to replace those completely, there's a good set at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[10:59] <dabaR> if directly, it does not ping, if through router, I am here.
[11:01] <dabaR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13935 is resolv.conf. Only that last line may be a clue...
[11:01] <acid-trip> how do i set up a loopback interface?
[11:01] <Jowi> dabaR: your nameservers are wrong.
[11:01] <tomek_> hi
[11:02] <voraistos> How do i know/change wich modules are loaded in my kernel ?
[11:02] <nickrud> voraistos, lsmod
[11:02] <snowfaked> anyone had problems connecting with rdesktop? I only get blank screen for a few seconds and then the programs closes
[11:02] <voraistos> thx
[11:02] <dabaR> Jowi: that is when I am connected to the router, so it looks fine here...
[11:02] <dabaR> + it works
[11:02] <Jowi> dabaR: log into your router and see which nameservers are in use in there and put those in your resolv.conf
[11:02] <nickrud> voraistos, remove with rmmod, modprobe to instert (removal doesn't always work)
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> Recommendations for a wireless card to install into a desktop computer for good compatibility?  (Potential dual-booter)
[11:03] <dabaR> Jowi: sure, I will try that. The thing is that I can not ping out at all. Not even to IP addresses with the modem. That means no DNS resolving will fix it, but I am willingh to try. I will be back.
[11:03] <Kr0ntab> snowfaked, any errors in the console when running rdesktop?
[11:03] <h3h_timo> can anyone help me with installing limewire?
[11:03] <nickrud> !limewire
[11:03] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[11:03] <Jowi> dabaR: when connected to the router, you will use the nameservers the router has got from the modem. if you are not using the router, you will not be able to connect to 192.168.0.1
[11:04] <h3h_timo> thank you
[11:04] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: nope
[11:04] <h3h_timo> !frostwire
[11:04] <ubotu> frostwire is, like, totally, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo
[11:04] <h3h_timo> is frostwire better than limewire?
[11:04] <robertl> delmar, ... I have packages java-common java-gcj-compat
[11:04] <Kr0ntab> snowfaked, I believe rdesktop also does not support microsoft's high encryption setting.  check out the terminal services option to make sure it's using medium encryption or lower
[11:04] <nickrud> h3h_timo, feels faster here
[11:04] <dabaR> Jowi: that is clear.
[11:04] <Jowi> dabaR: (of course, it could be that the cable-modem has that address but it is more likely that the modem has got your public ip address registered instead)
[11:04] <dabaR> brb
[11:04] <h3h_timo> okay thanks.. do you need java for that?
[11:04] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: ok, have to check that
[11:04] <nickrud> h3h_timo, yes
[11:05] <robertl> delmar, those are ubuntu packages.
[11:05] <Kr0ntab> yup... what OS you connecting to?  win2k3?  win2k?  xp?
[11:05] <h3h_timo> thank you
[11:05] <nickrud> !java
[11:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:05] <robertl> del-mar, join #az-pain  =)
[11:05] <gnosticapex> anyone feel like helping a nub? lol
[11:06] <Hfuy> Evening all
[11:06] <acid-trip> how do i set up a loopback interface?
[11:06] <Hfuy> I'm trying to get hibernate/sleep/suspend or whatever to work on a Toshiba Satellite SP10
[11:06] <nickrud> gnosticapex, we live for the easy(!) questions :)
[11:06] <Hfuy> Do I have a hope in hell?
[11:06] <robertl> or delmar, join #az-pain
[11:06] <delmar> robertj, what versions?
[11:06] <acid-trip> !loopback
[11:06] <ubotu> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso mountpoint/
[11:07] <Kr0ntab> acid-trip, add "iface lo inet loopback" and "auto lo" to /etc/network/interfaces
[11:07] <Kr0ntab> shoudl already have it
[11:07] <Kr0ntab> unless it was removed
[11:07] <gnosticapex> heh well, I have a toshiba Satellite L25-S1195, it has an ATi card in it. I know that they made that flgrx or whatever for it and also ATI released drivers, I've got the ATi driver on my USB device, but I dont know the command to access it/run it >.>
[11:08] <nickrud> !ati
[11:08] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:08] <acid-trip> Kr0ntab, it's already there
[11:08] <acid-trip> but when i try to connect to my ircd locally
[11:08] <acid-trip> it wont work
[11:08] <acid-trip> screw it
[11:08] <I_Eat_Plastic> !mp3
[11:08] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:08] <nickrud> gnosticapex, that !tati factoid above has the ati info
[11:08] <nickrud> ericvw, !ata gnomefreak
[11:08] <Kr0ntab> type ifconfig... do you see an "lo" device?
[11:09] <voraistos> nickrud: all i know is i should add module evdev to be loaded with my linux kernel. i dunno what to do (with modprobe, or where the module is/is not, etc....) :'(
[11:09] <voraistos> can u help ?
[11:09] <gnosticapex> Ill look at the community post, I already looked at the binaryhowto and it gave me the basic information but Im still having some troubles -.-
[11:09] <gnosticapex> if I could figure out how to access my USB device and run off of it, then I have the ati driver there >.>
[11:10] <astriskmanish> nickrud, again it says that u have to run apt-get update to fix these problem
[11:10] <nickrud> voraistos, you should already have it: lsmod | grep evdev , it should say it's there
[11:10] <Kr0ntab> snowfaked, did that work?
[11:11] <nickrud> astriskmanish, did you replace the original, useless /etc/apt/sources.list with the one from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/972 ?
[11:11] <Managu> tonyyarusso: I've not had much problem with any of the mass-marketed 802.11g wireless cards, once I've gotten them set up with ndiswrapper.  There is something to be said about using a card with good linux support, though.  Atheros-chipset based cards seem to have the best support.
[11:11] <voraistos> nickrud: with lsmod i dont see it. sorry i an complete noob. no idea what i should do
[11:11] <h3h_timo> okay, i installed frostwire.. but i already had java installed, but it says that i dont
[11:11] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: i don't have access to that windows machine yet so i don't know. will try that when i can first access it with windows
[11:11] <nickrud> voraistos, sudo modprobe evdev
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> Managu: Okay.
[11:11] <gnosticapex> there a command thatll list off your kernel version?
[11:11] <Kr0ntab> :-)
[11:11] <RandolphCarter> gnosticapex: uname -a
[11:12] <nickrud> h3h_timo, how'd you install java?
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> Is there a GUI tool for metric-English unit conversion?
[11:12] <salah> hi. my ubuntu 5.10 server have problems with outgoing connections. all connections in to it (when I connect to ssh etc) works fine, but when I use apt-get or ping or anything else that use outgoing network, it won't work. any ideas why?
[11:12] <RandolphCarter> gnosticapex: uname -r just for the kernel release
[11:12] <h3h_timo> ummm... let me remember
[11:12] <Kr0ntab> snowfaked, what version of windows is it running?
[11:12] <h3h_timo> umm.. i downloaded it and converted it to a deb package.. and then installed it like that.. it was from the unoffical ubuntu howto i think
[11:12] <voraistos> nickrud: oops, no with your comand i found it. i am noob and i have bad eyes lol
[11:13] <nickrud> h3h_timo, then try sudo update-alternatives --config java , that should be the final step
[11:13] <h3h_timo> thanks
[11:13] <h3h_timo> you know u guys are genius's?
[11:13] <astriskmanish> nickrud, yes i have replaced...
[11:14] <nickrud> astriskmanish, to make sure, type the following in a terminal: cat /etc/apt/sources.list , are they the same as the wiki?
[11:14] <h3h_timo> i am still getting the error though
[11:14] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: xp
[11:14] <nickrud> h3h_timo, what does java -version say?
[11:15] <h3h_timo> just a sec
[11:15] <h3h_timo> java version "1.4.2"
[11:15] <h3h_timo> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[11:15] <h3h_timo> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[11:15] <h3h_timo> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[11:15] <h3h_timo> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[11:15] <h3h_timo> brad@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[11:15] <nickrud> h3h_timo, you didn't choose the right java, then. Look for the one that says sun (should be 3rd)
[11:16] <h3h_timo> i have no third
[11:16] <gnosticapex> hmm, where can i get fglrx for ubuntu, linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686 >.>
[11:16] <dabaR> Hi again. The DNS entries get set properly by ifup. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13936 is what I get when I ping by IP address.
[11:16] <needlez> i think my firefox download has hung...
[11:17] <Hfuy> Hmm.
[11:17] <Hfuy> It'll seem to put it to sleep - pulsing power light - but not wake up.
[11:17] <Zane42> exit
[11:17] <tedd_> How can I check which version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[11:18] <brokengun> dudes
[11:18] <crimsun> tedd_: lsb_release -r
[11:18] <brokengun> i added some repositories
[11:18] <tedd_> perfect
[11:18] <DarkPath> hmm... I'm having a problem with the Ubuntu LiveCDs, both Dapper and Breezy, on my new desktop. Bit of a graphical glitch.
[11:18] <tedd_> thanks crimsun
[11:18] <LinuxJones> tedd, or cat /etc/issue
[11:18] <Managu> dabaR: probably a dead end, but is ping still setuid root on your machine?
[11:19] <DarkPath> the X server starts, and the mouse works fine, as does the sound... but then when GDM/Gnome tries to start up, I just get this messed up graphic in the center of my screen
[11:19] <tck> anyone can help me with a ax550 vga card?
[11:19] <DarkPath> and then nothing loads
[11:19] <dabaR> Managu: I ping fine when I am connected through the router.
[11:19] <brokengun> and now when i run "apt-get upate" i get a 404 error on some of he packages
[11:19] <DarkPath> anyone have any ideas?
[11:19] <harisund> Hello everyone !
[11:19] <needlez> does anyone know why it says "you do not have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/opt""?
[11:19] <nickrud> h3h_timo, apt-cache policy sun-jre1.5 , that should show installed if you did the steps right
[11:19] <astriskmanish> nickrud, yes both r same
[11:19] <harisund> needlez are you prefixing your commands with 'sudo'
[11:19] <brokengun> needlez: sudo and then the command
[11:19] <dabaR> needlez: cause you are not the owner of the folder.
[11:19] <h3h_timo> k
[11:19] <nickrud> astriskmanish, then sudo apt-get update
[11:19] <Managu> dabaR: perhaps post the results of "ifconfig" when you connect directly?
[11:19] <needlez> wait, should i be doing all this from terminal?
[11:19] <nickrud> astriskmanish, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:20] <samuli> please, use aptitude instead of apt-get
[11:20] <harisund> samuli, do you see any particular difference for your choice? how do they affect in general?
[11:20] <astriskmanish> ok.. i m updating it then will go for kubuntu-desktop
[11:20] <brokengun> i am getting 404 errors on some of my apt-get stuff when i run "sudo apt-get update" what do i need to do?
[11:20] <samuli> harisund, with aptitude you can just as easily remove the whole thing if you don't like it.
[11:21] <harisund> samuli: ah yes you make a good point there..
[11:21] <harisund> samuli, no -- switches eh?
[11:21] <dabaR> ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13938 there is ifconfig, Managu
[11:21] <samuli> with apt-get you end up just removing the meta-package 'kubuntu-desktop' which is really nothing.
[11:21] <brokengun> anyone, please?
[11:21] <samuli> no switches or options needed.
[11:21] <nickrud> astriskmanish, if you were reading, samuli makes a good point: when you install kubuntu-desktop, do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop. To heck with conventions
[11:22] <tck> anyone can help me with a ax550 vga card?
[11:22] <harisund> brokengun, there are a couple of things you could do. Maybe the sites are slow to connect or not up, so you could try a while later.
[11:22] <brokengun> ok
[11:22] <brokengun> well what happens in the event that they aren't up?
[11:22] <harisund> brokengun, or try posting the output of /etc/apt/sources.list on pasteboard or something.. i
[11:22] <brokengun> cause i dont think they are
[11:23] <dabaR> My router gets a different IP address from the DHCP on the modem:  24.79.94.252, and I got this same IP on the comp yesterday when I tried this.
[11:23] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: well, restarting the winxp machine helped, it was hanged ;)
[11:23] <Managu> dabaR: yeah, the dhcp server probably hands out IP addresses by mac address
[11:23] <Kr0ntab> ha  there ya go
[11:24] <astriskmanish> nickrude, after giving the command sudo apt-get update i got the folowing error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13939
[11:24] <brokengun> harisund: what is a pasteboard?
[11:24] <needlez> samuli: can you help me out with some terminal commands?
[11:24] <Jowi> dabaR: are your router set up to give a static ip for the computer?
[11:24] <needlez> can anyone help me with some terminal commands?
[11:24] <harisund> ubotu tell brokengun about pasteboard
[11:25] <Managu> needlez: to do what?
[11:25] <harisund> ubotu tell brokengun about paste
[11:25] <Trae> pastebin
[11:25] <Jowi> dabaR: or, if you are using firestarter, have you enabled dhcp there (also write in the nameservers in the DNS tab)
[11:25] <needlez> well i downloaded the new firefox to my desktop by accident, and im trying to follow that guide that someone previously sent me. and the guide says to download the file to /opt/firefox, and i didnt.
[11:26] <needlez> im very confused right now..
[11:26] <harisund> needlez, you don't need to download it into /opt
[11:26] <nickrud> astriskmanish, you didn't update the sources properly. type in a terminal gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" , delete what's there, and cut and paste the sources from the pastebin and save. Then update again
[11:26] <astriskmanish> and after giving sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop i got..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13940
[11:26] <harisund> Wherever you downloaded, it you can copy to /opt.
[11:26] <h3h_timo> alright i got frostwire installed, thanks to anyone who helped me
[11:26] <Jowi> dabaR: it is normal that you get a new ip address each time you connect with the modem. nothing strange in that
[11:26] <needlez> oh, ok. well, lets give it a try then
[11:26] <harisund> needlez, which page are you referring to?
[11:26] <nickrud> astriskmanish, you're only seeing the updates, not the other stuff
[11:27] <samuli> needlez, You might want to do 'gksudo nautilus' to easily move files around and stuff.
[11:27] <dabaR> Jowi: not on cable
[11:27] <harisund> needlez are you following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion ??
[11:27] <dabaR> Jowi: I work tech support for this.
[11:27] <needlez> harisund: yes, well i am trying to
[11:27] <dabaR> it is a setting euither at the ISP, or somehwere in the OS>
[11:27] <samuli> one thing that annoys me with firefox is that there's no option to where download each individual file.
[11:28] <harisund> samuli, there is?
[11:28] <Jowi> dabaR: well, it is not up to you or your router or your modem. it's your ISP that give you the public ip address. if you get different ones, it is them doing it.
[11:28] <samuli> harisund, Is there? I haven't found it.
[11:28] <harisund> needlez do you want to go over it step by step?
[11:28] <needlez> please?
[11:28] <harisund> samuli which version of firefox are you using?
[11:28] <samuli> harisund, 1.5
[11:28] <dabaR> Jowi: agreed
[11:28] <harisund> needlez so I am asuming you are using the version of 1.05 that ships default ith breezy?
[11:29] <needlez> yes
[11:29] <harisund> samuli: Edit->Preferences->Downloads
[11:29] <sulan> any ACPI-subsystem gurus in here interrested for a bug-report on brightness control on HP NC6000? (Flight 6 & 7, works in Breezy)
[11:29] <samuli> harisund, I know that.
[11:29] <harisund> ok needlez, so you will first navigate to the Firefox homepage and download the latest version right?
[11:29] <brokengun> harisund: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13941
[11:29] <astriskmanish> nickrud, i ahve done the same.. and my update is downloading n working..
[11:29] <samuli> I mean there's no option to choose individual to somewhere else than what you set up in preferences.
[11:29] <brokengun> that is the output of /etc/apt/sources.list for me
[11:29] <needlez> harisund, yes, it has been downloaded to my desktop
[11:29] <Managu> dabaR: not having a loopback interface is suspicious, but it shouldn't cause the problems you're suggesting.  "sudo iptables -L"?
[11:29] <Kr0ntab> up to 1.08 now... after patches..
[11:29] <nickrud> astriskmanish, great
[11:29] <Jowi> dabaR: your nameservers should not change very often though. it is usually safe to put them into firestarter or resolv.conf instead of 192.168.0.1
[11:30] <harisund> needlez, are you sure about that? can you see it on your desktop?
[11:30] <needlez> yes i can
[11:31] <harisund> samuli: Ah yes I get you. Either everything goes into one place, or every time it is asked.
[11:31] <harisund> brokengun any reason you are using hoary repositories?
[11:31] <brokengun> i dunno
[11:31] <brokengun> that is what the guide said
[11:32] <harisund> Ah that could be a problem.
[11:32] <samuli> harisund, yes. There should be like default _and_ an option to save it somewhere else.
[11:32] <decoy_> Hi everybody! Can I add a DVD-iso to apt-get sources? :)
[11:32] <brokengun> where can i get the correct sources for sources.list?
[11:32] <gnosticapex> I need to figure out a) where to get fglrx for a 2.5.12-9.686 kernel (unsure of the ATI card, whichever is standard for the Toshiba Satellite L25-S1195) and b) need to find a way to load it, preferably a USB flashstick, but I don't know how to access it. >.>
[11:32] <gnosticapex> 9-686*
[11:33] <JinRoh> Hello I got this error FATAL: Error inserting spca5xx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-22-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/usb/media/spca5xx.ko): Invalid module format - When trying to install Creative NX WEbcam pro following thishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284 <--- PLease help me
[11:33] <Managu> decoy_:  as in, an .iso file?
[11:33] <harisund> could someone please help brokengun get a correct sources.list for dapper?
[11:33] <brokengun> woah
[11:33] <brokengun> i am not running dapper though
[11:34] <nickrud> !repos
[11:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:34] <harisund> brokengun sorry .. i meant breezy.. did you get a link?
[11:34] <decoy_> Managu, Yes! I dont have a DVD-ROM drive, but I have a dvd iso on my hdd with packages. I'd like to upgrade my system from that dvd-iso... i can mount it so how can i add it to sources.list?
[11:34] <brokengun> i did
[11:34] <Managu> decoy_: oh, good question.  Let me check something
[11:35] <decoy_> :)
[11:35] <harisund> brokengun get your repos that way, and then paste that as is into your /etc/apt/sources.list file the way you did earlier. Try the 'apt-get update' again.
[11:35] <brokengun> ok hold on a minute
[11:36] <brokengun> i gotta get the line numbers out of it
[11:36] <Managu> decoy_: "man apt-cdrom"
[11:36] <dbernar1> And it works now. Weird.
[11:37] <PrimoTurbo> What is the default login for xubuntu under the Dapper 6.06 LiveCD?
[11:37] <harisund> brokengun yes make sure there are no line numbers.
[11:37] <gnosticapex> !ati
[11:37] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:37] <NoUse> PrimoTurbo ubuntu: no password
[11:37] <PrimoTurbo> thanks
[11:37] <brokengun> harisund, i think it is working
[11:37] <brokengun> wait
[11:38] <brokengun> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:38] <brokengun> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:38] <brokengun> i get that
[11:38] <PrimoTurbo> NoUse: It worked thank you
[11:38] <harisund> brokengun, make sure Synaptic is not running.
[11:38] <harisund> brokengun also make sure you have no other command line opne with any of dpkg, aptitude or apt-get currently executing.
[11:38] <brokengun> alright i closed synaptic and now it works
[11:39] <brokengun> thanks a bunch mate :)
[11:39] <decoy_> Managu, how should i use it? when i've launched apt-cdrom it asks me to put CD into CD-ROM drive and press ENTER. Then it should mount it and indexed... in fact i don't have physical DVD, i have just an image... what options should i use apt-cdrom picked up an image instead of physical disk? :-)
[11:39] <Managu> decoy_: according to the man page, you would want to do something like "sudo apt-cdrom -d=<mount point>"
[11:39] <simp> hello again... how can i install/extract .deb files in ubuntu? i need them for the estonian layout: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77213.html
[11:39] <harisund> brokengun: Sure :)
[11:40] <decoy_> Managu! I'm so sorry! :))
[11:40] <decoy_> I'm blind!!! :D
[11:40] <Managu> decoy_: maybe that'll work ;-)
[11:41] <samuli> simp, to install a deb: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[11:41] <ozen> #join /ubuntu-fr
[11:41] <samuli> there's a graphical interface to it too.. what's it name..
[11:41] <ozen> lol
[11:41] <astriskmanish> nickrud, sorry to say but again i got error msg ie http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13943
[11:41] <harisund> samuli does breezy have a gui for installing .deb files?
[11:41] <samuli> simp, anyways. You can extract them with archive manager.
[11:41] <ozen> synaptik
[11:42] <simp> ok thank you...
[11:42] <samuli> harisund, I'm not sure about breezy, there's one in dapper the very least.
[11:42] <simp> i'l give it a try
[11:42] <harisund> simuli yes ok ..
[11:42] <nickrud> astriskmanish, there's still something wrong with your sources; paste them again
[11:42] <harisund> astriskmanish, that problem occurs when a software looks for anothre dependant sotware, but that required software is from a source that yo udon't have.
[11:43] <JinRoh> Hello, please someone with Creative Webcam NX Pro got it working on Ubuntu? I tried this HOWTO http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284 but it doesn't work, I check lsusb and lsmod and it seems to be ok but /dev/video is not found
[11:43] <samuli> harisund, It's called gdebi in gnome.
[11:43] <samuli> There's one for kde too.
[11:43] <harisund> ah ok .. cool.
[11:44] <Managu> JinRoh: how 'bout /dev/video0 or /dev/video1?
[11:44] <astriskmanish> harisund, so how to install the dependencies
[11:44] <samuli> simp, did you get that. there's gdebi, graphical interface to install/extract/view .deb's
[11:45] <harisund> astriskmanish, you wlil need to make sure your repositories are complete. Sorry for htis, but you will have to paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file again.
[11:45] <astriskmanish> nickrud, these r my sources.list
[11:45] <JinRoh> Managu, I don't know I think it's the same, but I don't know I don't have experience with webcams in linux so I don't know how could I find the problem
[11:45] <oklinux> I have /home/comptoyou/jre1.5.0_06 how do I enable java ?
[11:46] <JinRoh> /dev/video0: No space left on device
[11:46] <astriskmanish> harisund, these r my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13944
[11:46] <nickrud> astriskmanish, you got the hoary sources
[11:46] <samuli> !tell oklinux java
[11:46] <megaman123> how can i turn off UTF-8
[11:46] <nickrud> astriskmanish, type lsb_release -a , if it says breezy, replace those with the breezy repo below
[11:46] <harisund> astriskmanish, give me a minute. I will paste you mine.
[11:46] <nickrud> !repos
[11:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:46] <samuli> or is it.. about java?
[11:47] <samuli> megaman123, in irc?
[11:47] <megaman123> no to run VDR
[11:47] <megaman123> it says "please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR"
[11:47] <harisund> astriskmanish, do this command on your temrinal: 'sudo sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:47] <astriskmanish> nickrud, its says its brezzy
[11:47] <megaman123> i guess in the system
[11:48] <harisund> astriskmanish: sudo sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:48] <nickrud> megaman123, type export LANG="ISO-15589-1" vdr
[11:49] <nickrud> astriskmanish, harisund's is a nice shortcut :)
[11:49] <megaman123> thanks :)
[11:49] <harisund> astriskmanish: did you execute that command? Once you do, open up /etc/apt/sources.list and ensure that your repositories point to breezy just to be sure. Then do the 'apt-get update'
[11:49] <megaman123> btw i got my card to run...now on to the next step....running VDR :)
[11:50] <Jowi> megaman123: if you want to make the change system wide (utf-8 is good to have, btw). first make sure you have localeconf installed ("sudo apt-get install localeconf"), then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" and you should be able to select what you want.
[11:50] <harisund> nickrud: if you look at it, his repositories are complete for hoary. Don't you agree that apt is really awesome in that a single substitution and you are now up to date?
[11:51] <nickrud> harisund, absolutely. You just gotta know sed :)
[11:51] <astriskmanish> harisund, can u tell me how to execute it as i m new to all these stuffs
[11:51] <harisund> ok. First open a terminal. Are you comfortable executing commands using the terminal?
[11:51] <harisund> Otherwise we can use the GUI if you wish.
[11:51] <astriskmanish> harisund, yes
[11:52] <harisund> astriskmanish: What do you prefer?
[11:52] <carl> Need a hand again... how do I do for a mounted FS to be writable for normal users?
[11:52] <byen_> Guys need some immediate help/ I was upgrading to dapper and all of a sudden it just stopped at the last point
[11:52] <astriskmanish> harisund, terminal
[11:52] <harisund> I'm glad you prefer that.
[11:52] <Mindtzar> whats the command line arguement for killing xserver
[11:52] <Mindtzar> ubotu tell Mindtzar about killx
[11:52] <harisund> Ok (would it be ok if Irefer to you as manish, as it is shorter?) ..
[11:53] <samuli> it's pain in the ass to try and walk someone through in a gui-style :P
[11:53] <byen_> Please help. My dist upgrade stopped at 98% what should i do?
[11:53] <harisund> First, samuli: I agree ..
[11:53] <GTroy> I've got a torrent coming down, irc, and google...but I can't get any other pages to come up....any idea?
[11:53] <Mindtzar> anyone know the command line arguement to kill server?
[11:53] <astriskmanish> harisund, yes ofcourse that is my mane
[11:53] <harisund> MIndtazr which server?
[11:53] <simp> another question, how can i edit a .conf file in terminal, what was the thing i had to write again?
[11:53] <simp> something with sudo :P
[11:53] <Mindtzar> xserver
[11:53] <Mindtzar> :\
[11:54] <GTroy> simp try pico
[11:54] <harisund> ok manish..first, in your terminal type: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:54] <GTroy> !pico
[11:54] <ubotu> GTroy: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:54] <GTroy> !nano
[11:54] <ubotu> GTroy: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:54] <harisund> Gtroy nano
[11:54] <harisund> :)
[11:54] <GTroy> heh
[11:54] <Jowi> simp: "sudo gedit filename.conf" or "sudo nano filename.conf"
[11:54] <harisund> ok Manish, anyway coming back, htis will open the window equivalent (but more powerful) of notepad.
[11:54] <Jowi> (or should gksudo be used with gedit maybe?)
[11:54] <astriskmanish> ya its open in gedit
[11:54] <harisund> Manish, in that you wlil see a list of entries, which tell Ubuntu where to look.
[11:55] <Babacom> evening room
[11:55] <harisund> Do see 'hoary' in among there or 'breezy' ?
[11:55] <Mindtzar> how do you kill xserver :(
[11:55] <harisund> evening Babacom (afternoon for me actually)
[11:55] <Trae> harisund, just do as<tab>  :)
[11:55] <Mindtzar> /etc/X11/xorg -something?
[11:55] <GazzaK> how do you kill users? :(
[11:55] <Babacom> harisund: it's night for me ;)
[11:55] <harisund> xserver? Just do 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop'
[11:55] <nickrud> GazzaK, put windows on their machines
[11:55] <GazzaK> they already have that nickrud :(
[11:55] <harisund> Manish, coming back, what did you find?
[11:56] <nickrud> GazzaK, that's just to give you a legit reason
[11:56] <astriskmanish> harisund, ya i think its looking to hoary
[11:56] <harisund> astriskmanish: ok exit gedit and get back to terminal. now execute: sudo sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:57] <Babacom> anyone knows how you turn on spelling checking in gnome-xchat (or how you add the english language if that's what needed?)
[11:57] <harisund> Copy everything after the execute: (starting with sed...) on the command line.
[11:57] <GTroy> hey guys I'm having network problems......my connection seems shaky at best
[11:57] <Satya> hi, just installed Ubuntu, it landed me in a command line text-only interface ; any ideas how to start up the GUI ?!
[11:58] <GTroy> satya: try "startx"
[11:58] <Satya> I tried startx
[11:58] <Satya> it sats no file /etc/x11/x
[11:58] <Satya> *says
[11:58] <astriskmanish> harisund, when i executed that nothing has come it just ask for password n then again i come back to command line
[11:58] <Kr0ntab> Satya, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:59] <Satya> ok I will try that and get back thanks!
[11:59] <harisund> Manish. Yes what it did was substitute all occurences of 'hoary' for 'breezy' in that file. Do that 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' to open up gedit with that file again and ensure that it has been indeed changed to breez now.
[11:59] <LinuxJones> Satya: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg select vesa as the video driver and select a moderate screen resolution like 1020 x 768