[12:05] raphink: feel free to review and upload her patch http://pastebin.com/715414 [12:05] hmm let me see [12:06] ok she just took the support from gnome.mk and copied it to kde.mk [12:09] seems like a fair tactic === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell sticks a fork in ubiquity [12:44] Sime: new guidance looks good, uploaded [12:45] Riddell: need a nife? [12:50] toma: nope, it's done [12:51] nice, it is the new install wizard, right? === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:07] ok hobbsee's patch seems fine [01:07] I'll upload it [01:08] that means apps will have to be all rebuilt with this new cdbs === apachelogger is now known as rclogger === Mez [i=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:15] btw, there are thoughts about using kubuntu as base for the amaroK Live CD ;-D [01:17] nice raphink [01:17] nice rclogger [01:17] gah :p [01:17] lol [01:17] hehe === Mez tries and finds a pizza place to deliver to an internet cafe online [01:17] damn CAPS :P [01:24] Mez: I uploaded katapult with your patch [01:25] rclogger: good idea :) === rclogger is now known as apachelogger === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [i=Mez@195.112.61.162] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-141-68.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-80-86.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-35-13.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip24-250-224-132.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:11] hey! it looks like my cdbs got in! [06:12] yay, thanks Riddell or whoever uploaded it :) === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:20] is there any way to force kde sound to use anything apart from arts? [07:20] ie, not amarok - the rest of it === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [i=Mez@195.112.61.162] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon pokes freeflying apokryphos or someone else awake , i need to report something on launchpad.net but need a tab bit of help before i can post a usefull bug report [08:15] imbrandon: hi [08:15] heya freeflying dident mean to bother ya but .... hold on let me paste what i just said in #ubuntu-devel ( no one was alive in there ) [08:15] 20:12] someone got a sec to help me figure out where to look to track down this bug, i can reporduce the bug like clockwork but i have no idea WHY its doing it or what logs / messages to look in to help someon fix it [08:15] [20:13] hell not even sure what to report it under in launchpad.net [08:15] [20:14] i dunno what to call it but if you install ( dont even have to use it ) smbfs , hald take a LONG time to start when booting ( like 2 or 3 minutes ) [ this is on upto date dapper , clean fresh install , install smbfs hangs on boot , uninstall it everything is smooth ] [08:15] [20:15] not sure what hal ( hardware abstraction layer ) has to do with smbfs and i dont knokw where to look in the logs to be more helpfull but someone could tell me i would be happy to ( the reason i say hal is becouse thats what message it hangs on while booting for like 2 or 3 minutes ) [08:15] [20:15] * message on usplash [08:16] /end paste [08:17] does htat make any sense freeflying heh [08:17] that* [08:17] imbrandon: automatically mount smbfs? [08:18] smbfs is a package to allow "mount" to mount smb file systems but you dont have to actualy USE it just have it installed for this to affect you [08:18] now i use it but i dident have anything mounted yet or any smbfs mounts in fstab [08:18] imbrandon: maybe /var/log/message help [08:18] ut with smbfs package installed the next reboot hal will hang [08:18] for like 2 or 3 minutes [08:19] k lemme look [08:21] hmm no errors ther at all, everything looks normal [08:23] imbrandon: I also have similiar issue with you, no clues now, I bind /home to a chroot environment, it also need 2-3 mins for bring up [08:23] on launchpad.net i dont even know whom to assign this to or if its a smbfs bug or hal bug in the way it handles smbfs ( if at all since its a hardware package ) or if its some other app hanging the boot [08:23] and hal is the last mesage shown [08:23] ahhh is it hal on the screen when the boot takes so long ? [08:24] imbrandon: don't think hal is the right [08:24] me either, i think thats just the last thing usplash is showing me while it waits for something else [08:24] one sec brb phone === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:37] mornfall: you around? [08:38] mornfall: seems there are a lot of users getting problems with adept lately === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@bb220-255-38-163.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip24-250-224-132.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:27] morning [10:30] good morning toma === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh [n=shermann@unaffiliated/sh/x-000000002] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:20] <\sh> moins === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.169] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.169] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rclogger [n=me@N707P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:11] is it just me or does the bookmarks toolbar in konq like sometime automatically appear even though I've got it turned off... [12:12] Sime: i filed a bug that my bookmarks toolbar is randomly disappearing [12:12] ok, that sounds like what I'm seeing. [12:13] it is wierd [12:13] I can't corralate (sp?) it with any action in particular. [12:13] yes, and i hate it ;-) I always, for ever, want that toolbar. There should be some lock setting. [12:14] it shouldn't appear/disappear randomly. simple. [12:14] right [12:14] mp3 still don't work here in kde apps. [12:15] also mounting CDs seems to hang sometimes. [12:15] (might be FAM related..???) [12:15] I've seen pmount hang. [12:15] ps showed it just sitting there doing nothing once. [12:16] someone replied in the bug report wrote that kubuntu patch the bookmark toolbar to not be on by default. Maybe the patch is wrong. I wonder where I can find that patch. [12:19] it will probably be part of the source .deb. [12:19] ah, true [12:19] "apt-get source " will pull it down. [12:19] best to do that in an empty dir. BTW [12:20] kdelibs [12:20] I think that is the source [12:20] I could be wrong [12:22] donwloading === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:36] a lot of patches, but none altering bookmark menu === \sh__ [n=shermann@xdsl-81-173-176-228.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh__ is now known as \sh === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rclogger is now known as apachelogger === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:17] hey ;) [01:17] hi Tonio_ [01:17] hi Hobbsee [01:36] wired, I have both sid and dapper's pbuilder,but failed times for breezy's === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@80.33.64.8] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-165.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.250.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi_ [n=pygi@83.131.250.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-255-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-91-238.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-009-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-009-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:27] toma: kubuntu-default-settings should be setting the bookmarks toolbar to be off by default but if you turn it on it should be saving that in ~/.kde and should therefore stay on, in the past i've had it disapear a few times and had to turn it on again but it always stayed on for a long time (yeah crap description :) === marseillai_ [n=marseill@AMarseille-256-1-5-24.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:32] seaLne: oki, I'll have a look at that package then === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-087.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:35] fair enough you might not like the default (i don't either) but it seems impossible that what you are experiencing is happening unless konq never saves its settings? :-/ [05:38] hmm i just found a very weird bug probably in kpilot, on my palm if i set a start and end time of the same (ie 0 duration its just an alarm to remind me to do something) the result in the std.ics file is for an apparently random period averaging a a few weeks [05:39] seaLne: i don't like the default, but that is irrelevant. If I turn it on, it should stay on, and it does not do that ;-) [05:39] :q [05:40] I'll remove kubuntu-default-settings for a while and test without it [05:40] toma: what happens if you change the setting then quit all konqs is it set when you start a new one? [05:41] (also when i turn it off, if it stays off) [05:41] yes, it will stay for a while, and disappears somwhere during the day. [05:42] i've noticed before with settings stuff that loging out didn't save stuff and the only other times programs would be stopped was when they crashed [05:42] toma: the same running konq? [05:42] no, a new korq [05:43] did you quit the previous one that you set it in? [05:43] and i suspected a crashing konq as well, but that is not the case, i watched it carefully this week. I can imagen the default setting coming up after a crash [05:44] mostly it happens when opening an extra konq [05:44] sorry just trying to think of possible explanations [05:45] seaLne: it is weird, first up is to determine if it is konqs fault or kubuntu-patch fault [05:48] is there any mention of bookmarkToolBar in ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc ? [05:49] seaLne: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126556 [05:49] KDE bug 126556 in general "Bookmark-toolbar doesn't always show up when (re)starting Konqueror" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [05:50] Hidden=false [05:50] yes, it is there [05:52] i don't have that [05:52] [KonqMainWindow Toolbar bookmarkToolBar] [05:52] IconText=IconTextRight [05:52] Index=3 [05:52] Offset=-3 [05:54] i have something similar [05:54] there are a dozen bugs about toolbar bahaviour in konq [05:55] I'll not search further, it is a konq problem [05:55] so you have that + Hidden=false in the section? [05:55] yes [05:55] interesting [05:56] maybe it is redundant by having the section at all [05:58] funny br's http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120481 [05:58] KDE bug 120481 in general "No toolbar, split linked view with one locked - first click in unlocked one returns toolbars and main menu!" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [05:58] it is reasonable to assume somehwere there is a race condition reading the settings of konq [06:00] thanks for helping [06:01] weird problems are never fun [06:02] indeed, i rather have something reproducable reliable === Dinofly [n=dinofly@lns-bzn-42-82-255-69-38.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-009-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-255-125.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger is now known as busylogger === busylogger is now known as releaselogger === releaselogger is now known as apachelogger === superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip24-250-224-132.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A60CAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poimen [n=poimen@64.213.227.110] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-80.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poimen [n=poimen@206.248.107.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:30] hum today is avery active day for developer right? I have done apt-get update like 3 times and new upgrades apper === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:31] hi all [11:31] hiya kwwii [11:31] hi kwwii, jjesse [11:32] hiya pygi [11:32] so outside of people flipping out about the ubuntu splash, what is up? [11:32] was there a recent update to the ubuntu splash? [11:32] argh, again that splash :P [11:32] hehe [11:33] I now realize that I am totally separated from that community [11:33] :) [11:33] I sent pic after pic to them and got no response [11:33] what are you upto lately kwwii ? [11:34] now it seems to be a big deal and everyone is upset [11:34] no worries :) people always react that way :P [11:34] of course, I should figure out everyones problems and know what the hell is going on [11:34] hey, calm down :P [11:34] pygi: no shit [11:34] pygi: I am used to that from suse, don't worrsa [11:34] worry [11:35] I hope that I solved things [11:35] argh,oki :) [11:39] Riddell: 1.4.0 is out, btw ;-) === pygi wonders what 1.4.0 is out :P [11:42] out is probably the wrong word [11:42] amarok? Only for packages, I guess. [11:42] available for ppacking [11:42] *packagers [11:42] apokryphos: yep [11:47] it is a bit harder to work on harder problems per email [11:47] anyway [11:47] time for sleep [11:47] kwwii, night :) [11:47] c u tomorrow [11:47] if you ever need any help, just poke me by mail or somethin [11:48] pygi: will do :-) === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-009-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel []