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bddebianAck, bpftopcf: command not found??12:02
phanaticraphink: ping12:07
raphinkpong phanatic12:07
phanaticraphink: do you have a little time? can i msg you?12:07
raphinksure msg me12:07
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lifelessmorning y'all02:13
tsenghi lifeless, congrats on 0.802:15
lifelessdanke02:16
bddebianHi lifeless, tseng02:18
tsenghi02:18
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kbrooksbbl04:25
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Hobbseehi everyone06:10
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YagisanG'day all06:46
Yagisananyone with an amd64 box and a few minutes to spare ?06:49
tuxmaniacYagisan: Good morning!!!06:50
Yagisantuxmaniac: G'day. What's up ?06:51
StevenKsteven@liquified:~% uname -m06:51
StevenKx86_6406:51
StevenKYagisan: ^06:51
tuxmaniacYagisan: Got my xcircuit status changed to Fix commited.. :) Thanks to bddebian06:51
YagisanStevenK: could you confirm Bug #44100 for me. Any CJK language will do.06:51
UbugtuMalone bug 44100 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org in dapper lacks canadian english spellcheck" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4410006:51
Yagisancrap wrong number06:52
YagisanBug #4462606:52
UbugtuMalone bug 44626 in openoffice.org "Can't Input Japanese Text" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4462606:52
Yagisantuxmaniac: good to hear06:52
StevenKYagisan: You'll need to talk me through it, and my Dapper is a chroot.06:53
StevenKMy laptop is dapper, but it's i38606:53
StevenKWhee. This might hurt. Installing Japanese language support along with openoffice is likely to take a while.06:55
YagisanStevenK: hmm. if a chroot this might be difficult06:56
YagisanStevenK: I change sessions with gdm06:56
YagisanStevenK: perhaps it's best to wait for someone with a full dapper amd64 install06:57
YagisanStevenK: basically it is pick japanese session, load OO.o, try to type, and notice you only get english. followed by smack head into table.06:59
YagisanStevenK: The heisenbug I was tracking down yesterday turned out to be a schroedinbug instead. It should never have worked at all.07:01
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StevenKYagisan: And installing ubuntu-desktop in my building chroot might hurt.07:22
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KyralActually.... Hobbsee how do you know I'm not a bot :P We have never actually met or spoken :P07:26
YagisanStevenK: quite possible it may do more then hurt07:26
HobbseeKyral: i hear it on good authority, by people who know you :P07:26
Kyrallol07:26
Kyralyou mean my GPG Key :P07:26
HobbseeKyral: no, you :P - at LCA and wherever else...07:27
Hobbseeer, no, whichever one i mean07:27
KyralUBZ?07:27
HobbseeUDU & UBZ07:27
Hobbseethat's it07:27
KyralI wasn't at UDU07:27
Hobbseeah07:27
KyralUBZ yes07:27
HobbseeUBZ then :P'07:27
KyralAnd I have the pictures to prove it :P07:27
Hobbseegrr - my brain's not supposed to work, after going to bed after 2 am 2 nights ina a row!07:28
Kyrallol07:28
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YagisanHobbsee: after a week, you'll get used to it07:28
Hobbseeheh07:28
Yagisanalternatively have kids. you get used to just 1 hour a day07:29
Kyrallol07:29
KyralI think Hobbsee is a little young for that :P07:29
Hobbseeeek..no thanks!07:29
=== Hobbsee isnt particularly interested in having kids :P
KyralToldja07:30
Yagisanshame07:30
HobbseeYagisan: how old did you think i am, anyway???07:30
=== Hobbsee has been asked if she's got kids, before
YagisanHobbsee: about my age ~2407:30
Kyral1707:30
Kyral:P07:30
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HobbseeYagisan: dream on, hehe :D07:30
YagisanHobbsee: your older !?!07:30
KyralAm I right?07:30
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Hobbseenope07:31
Hobbsee:P07:31
=== Hobbsee is 87.
Kyralwait what is that a nope to07:31
Kyral....07:31
KyralHobbsee: I know that isn't true07:31
Hobbsee:P07:31
KyralI know you are younger than me07:31
Kyral<<== 2007:31
YagisanHobbsee: what year of uni are you ?07:31
HobbseeYagisan: 1st07:31
YagisanHobbsee: have a year off after year 12 ?07:32
Hobbseenope07:32
Kyral18?07:32
YagisanHobbsee: you'd be between 18 & 21 then07:32
Hobbseeturning 18 in july...07:32
Kyralsee I was right07:32
Kyral17 :P07:32
=== Hobbsee often thinks of her age as 19, friends are 19+, work people are 25+, and i've signed a couple of documents syaing that i'm 18 :P
Kyrallol07:33
KyralFORGERY!! ;P07:33
YagisanHobbsee: really ? wow, you don't photograph so well07:33
HobbseeYagisan: haha...07:33
Kyral....Yagisan07:33
KyralRUN07:33
YagisanHobbsee: almost as bad as me07:33
Kyralnow :P07:33
Hobbseei thought you were never supposed to say that to a woman!07:34
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KyralYou aren't07:34
YagisanKyral: I've decided today is the day to kill myself07:34
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KyralCan I help?07:34
Hobbseeajmitch: see, here's evidence - you shouldnt take any pictures of me while you're here...07:34
Hobbseehehehe07:34
YagisanKyral: well, I'm doing so well by myself ...07:35
KyralI have a very bad picture07:35
Kyralof me07:35
HobbseeKyral: never seen yours...07:35
KyralLemme dig it out :P07:35
Yagisanrereading those last to lines seems well, odd for motu chat07:36
Yagisans/to/two07:36
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Kyralhttp://clarkson.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2001714&l=782ae&id=2160164307:36
Kyral...07:36
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KyralBTW look for the idiot flashing the V sign ;P07:36
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Kyraloh sorry07:37
KyralI used the blade side of the Katana :P07:37
Hobbseeyou really do have a deathwish today, dont you Yagisan!07:37
Yagisanmore! more!07:37
Hobbseehehe fun07:37
Hobbseeooh, snow!07:37
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Kyralhmm07:37
Kyralthis gives me an idea07:37
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Kyralyah that was in Ottawa Canada07:38
tuxmaniacHobbsee: hi07:38
Hobbseehi tuxmaniac07:38
Kyraldidja find the pic of me on my cell07:39
tuxmaniacHobbsee: Where is StevenK !! Did he jump on you today too :)07:39
Hobbseetuxmaniac: he's here, i was talking to him earlier.  i dont remember if he jumped on me07:39
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KyralHobbsee: ?07:40
Yagisanis there any fundamental difference between vsprintf and vsnprintf that would cause the first to work, yet the second to only print 7 chars ?07:40
HobbseeKyral: yeah07:40
Hobbseei thikn so07:41
Hobbsee:P07:41
Kyralbad no? :P07:41
Hobbseehehe yeah07:41
KyralI think the caption I put is "Me, being an idiot" or somesuch :P07:41
Hobbseeoh yes, that one...07:41
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Kyrallol07:41
Hobbsees/on/in07:41
Kyralits ice07:41
KyralThats one massive canal that freezes over every winter07:42
KyralI am happy to say I only beefed it twice07:42
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Kyral<== Loves ice skating07:43
=== Yagisan hasn't even seen snow
Kyral..ouch07:44
KyralI <3 Snow07:44
`6ognever seen snow o_007:44
KyralYah I beefed it when I ran into snow on the ice07:44
imbrandonnever seen snow ?!? jez07:44
Yagisantoo warm here07:44
imbrandonheh, where is here?07:44
KyralAussie I thought?07:45
YagisanSydney07:45
=== Hobbsee has seen snow twice before :)
Kyralwait07:45
imbrandoncool07:45
Kyrallol07:45
imbrandonheya Hobbsee07:45
Hobbseehi imbrandon07:45
=== Yagisan has seen big chunky hail though
KyralHobbsee: you should have come to UBZ :P07:45
=== Hobbsee wonders about a skiing holiday..
`6ogYagisan: lame excuse07:45
HobbseeKyral: i have no passport07:45
Kyraloh wait it wasn't snowing then....07:45
`6ogyour a few hours drive from the snow feilds07:45
KyralHobbsee: I have one!!07:45
Yagisan`6og: sure, buy me a car07:45
KyralI'll come visit and bring snow lol07:45
imbrandoni found out what that bug is kinda, well atleaste how to reporduce it now just to figure it out ( atleaste enough to report it on launchpad )07:45
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HobbseeKyral: sure, but they wont let me pass on your picture :P07:45
`6og`6og: sure. i'll drop it off07:45
Hobbseeheh07:45
Laser_awayyikes, that's sad. I've never seen a year without seeing snow at least 4 months out of the year07:46
KyralStevenK: you poor depraved soul07:46
StevenKHail the size of golf balls, I have though.07:46
KyralLaser_away: Amen to that!07:46
Hobbseehehe07:46
KyralLJ where are you again?07:47
Laser_awaycurrently Reno, NV07:47
Laser_awaybut I grew up in Montana07:47
KyralCasinos!!07:47
KyralI'm sorry07:47
Laser_awayyes, lots of them07:47
Laser_awayI never go though07:47
KyralMontana == Nowhere USA :P07:47
Laser_awayKyral: yep, and I miss it a lot07:48
Laser_awayI grew up and go my BA in a town of 4,00007:49
Kyralouch07:49
Kyralwell, Potsdam is smaller....07:49
KyralPotsdam, NY :P07:49
Laser_away9,000 in a county the size of Rhode Island07:50
KyralWhoa, they got that many people in that tiny spot?07:50
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=== `6og blinks. it's strange hearing comparisons between places you have no idea about
KyralI remember driving through RI once07:51
Yagisan`6og: so, when are you dropping that car off?07:51
Kyral"Welcome to Rhode Island"07:51
Kyralminute later07:51
Kyral"Now Leaving Rhode Island"07:51
Laser_away`6og: sorry, 9,000 people in ~600 square miles07:52
=== Yagisan went to a casino once
Laser_awaybut I'm guessing square miles isn't going to help much either ;-)07:52
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Laser_awayI haven't been into the casinos here more then 5 times in the 4 years I've lived here07:53
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Laser_awaythe only reason I would ever go it for a buffet :-)07:54
`6ogLaser_away: fraid not ;)07:54
=== Hobbsee went inside a casino once...didnt bother doing anything, though
KyralI went in07:55
Kyralplayed craps07:55
Kyraland won 16007:55
Kyraldollars07:55
Hobbseenice!07:55
Hobbseetoo much chance for casino stuff...07:55
Laser_awayyep, that is why it is so addictive07:55
Hobbseeeven card games07:55
YagisanKyral: yeah, and how much did you lose07:55
KyralYagisan: that was NET07:55
Laser_awaywe have gambling addiction treatment programs here07:55
tuxmaniacYagisan: guess 320 $07:55
Hobbseeand yes, i knwo that craps isnt a card game :P07:55
KyralYagisan: as in how much I won minus loss07:56
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Laser_awaywe bought our house from a lady who was $70,000 in debt because of gambeling07:56
Hobbseehehe07:57
Laser_awayI see people pushing shopping carts downt he streat because they gambled their cars away07:57
Laser_awaynot pretty07:57
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Kyralokay07:59
Kyral02:0007:59
KyralBEDTIME!07:59
Laser_awayyep, cya Kyral08:00
Hobbseenight Kyral08:00
Hobbseeheh08:00
Hobbsee2am is time to start hacking :P08:00
KyralYou like teh away?08:00
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KyralHobbsee: not when you need to be up at 08:0008:00
Kyraland coherent08:00
`6oghehe. night Kyral08:00
Hobbseesure it is.  see this mroning.08:01
`6ogHobbsee: youth of today :P08:01
Hobbsee:P08:01
KyralI need 6 hours of sleep or else my already hard to keep up with speech pattern is even harder to understand :P08:01
imbrandonheya Hobbsee wanna help me reporduce this bug and possibly track it down ( wanna make sure its just not me but i dont think so becouse i have tried it on 2 diffrent machines here at home )08:02
Laser_awayman, I used to be able to do all nighters in college, but since I got married I just can't do it anymore. To much to do during the day08:02
Kyralanyway08:02
Hobbseeimbrandon: what bug?08:02
Kyralcat Kyral >> /dev/bed08:02
Kyralfor REAL!08:02
`6oghehe08:02
`6oglol Laser_away08:02
imbrandonheh i dunno what to call it but if you install ( dont even have to use it ) smbfs , hald take a LONG time to start when booting ( like 2 or 3 minutes )08:03
imbrandonuninstall smbfs everything returns to normal08:03
Hobbseeack...i dont want to kill my system by trying that :P08:03
`6ogimbrandon: sure it's hald lagging?08:03
imbrandoni've got it to do it here at the house 3 times, wannna see if soneone else gets the same resule08:03
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imbrandon`6og: well thats the message on the startup, is "hald starting up ......." eventualy it will but takes forever08:04
imbrandonresult*08:04
`6ogstrange.08:05
imbrandonbtw its on uptodate dapper ( breezy seems unaffected )08:05
imbrandonif that wasent obvious08:05
imbrandonheh08:05
imbrandoni thought it was a problem with the hal package at first so i did a clean install and updated everyting BUT hal and booted same thing, so i went ahead and updated hal and then removed smbfs ( thats the only thing that was installed other than default kubuntu )08:06
imbrandonand booted smooth08:07
`6ogcorrect me if i'm wrong - hal=hardware abstraction layer?08:07
imbrandonso i did the same thing ( installed smbfs , rebooted , uninstalled smbfs ) to make sure that was it, i'm not even sure what logs to look at to give a core dev an idea of whats going on08:08
imbrandon`6og: yes08:08
`6ogimbrandon: ask in -devel, where to look for stuff08:08
imbrandondont know what hal has to do with it but thats where it freezes on boot every time , when starting hal08:08
`6ogniether do i, that's why i checked ;)08:08
imbrandonk08:08
imbrandonwill do ( hopefully someones awake ;)08:09
`6og;)08:09
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Yagisandamm, still once place behind ajmitch08:20
tseng?08:22
Yagisantseng: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=4510408:26
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Hobbseestupid thing!09:02
crimsunLaser_away: pong (unlikely)09:22
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freeflyingcrimsun: hi, would you mind have a look at the new zhcon, thx09:31
crimsunfreeflying: revu/debian/ubuntu (url)?09:32
freeflyingcrimsun: I just failed build, due to the changes in Makefile, after patched, still can not work09:33
freeflyingcrimsun: new version can support utf809:33
crimsunfreeflying: ok, got a url?09:33
freeflyingcrimsun: http://sourceforge.net/projects/zhcon09:35
crimsunah ok, upstream09:36
freeflyingcrimsun: how about include it in dapper?09:36
crimsunfreeflying: will look in a few minutes. To include it, you'd need to file an Upstream Version Freeze exception request09:36
freeflyingcrimsun: after all , rc is coming ,so I don't know weather the UVFe will be approved  :)09:37
crimsunfreeflying: if it fixes a critical bug, I'd still file a UVFe req09:37
freeflyingcrimsun: the critical is that old version can not support utf8, heh09:38
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freeflyingso, cjk guy can not input in native under console09:39
crimsunfreeflying: but with zhcon, (s)he can?09:40
crimsunnew zhcon, that is09:40
freeflyingcrimsun: sure09:40
crimsunfreeflying: ok, that's worth filing a UVFe req09:41
freeflyingcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/216 --< change the dir for install zhcon.conf09:42
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phanaticmorning10:11
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Toadstoolmorning11:00
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phanatichi Toadstool11:01
Toadstoolhi phanatic11:01
siretarthey folks11:05
Toadstoolhi siretart11:05
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Toadstoolhey Yagisan11:08
phanatichello Yagisan11:09
=== Yagisan is wondering why vsnprintf only prints 7 chars, even though it says it printed 40.
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\shmoins11:16
ajmitchhi \sh11:21
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\shupdating pbuilder, preparing clamav merge...11:23
sivanghi all11:26
sivanghey phanatic :)11:26
phanatichello sivang :)11:27
\shhey sivang :) did I see it right, that you started uploading? ;)11:27
phanaticsivang: i cannot go :(11:27
sivangphanatic: why no?11:27
phanaticsivang: no sponsorship (which i can understand)11:28
sivangphanatic: ah I see, sponsership emails already went out?11:28
phanaticsivang: yeah, on friday11:28
\shsivang: are you attending paris?11:30
sivang\sh: not sure yet, I did not receive any emails from Jane on friday, so I'll either stay at home, or go for a trip arounde EU and drop by for a couple of days or so.11:31
sivang;-)11:31
\shsivang: hehe :) the latter is better :)11:31
sivang\sh: are you coming ?11:32
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\shsivang: I'll try visit the people in paris for one or two nights if it's possible...11:32
Yagisanw00t - I found the bug :)11:32
\shsivang: I never applied for sponsorship and actually we have product launch in june11:32
sivang\sh: I see, good luck then :-)11:32
\shsivang: but one weekend should do..or at least the beginning of the conf (ubuntu love day ;))11:34
sivang\sh: I understood there is not going to be any love day on this no? just hard spec writing :)11:35
sivangwho else is going there?11:35
\shsivang: every day is ubuntu love day ;)11:35
sivangthis is true :-D11:35
\shsiretart: ping11:40
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siretart\sh: pong11:56
\shsiretart: regarding https://launchpad.net/bugs/42568 I found only the fix for /var/run in the actual clamav package in ubuntu....11:57
UbugtuMalone bug 42568 in clamav "Security issue fixed in 0.88.2" [Normal,Confirmed] 11:57
\shsiretart: and some rules adjustments :)12:02
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siretart\sh: yes?12:09
sivangsiretart: are you going to paris?12:20
siretartsivang: I don't know. I'm not sponsored, and I have to look how expensive it would be12:21
sivangsiretart: me as well :)12:21
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\shhehe...my first sponsored uploads since a couple of months ....12:44
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Tonio_hey01:17
YagisanG'day Tonio_01:17
Yagisanpersia: thanks for confirming Bug #4462601:18
UbugtuMalone bug 44626 in openoffice.org "Can't Input Japanese Text" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4462601:18
persiaYagisan: No worries.  That's the type of bug likely to annoy me at some point when I depend on the correct behaviour :)01:19
persiaYagisan: Are you familiar with the IM mechanism used in Open Office?  I don't know where to even begin investigating that.01:20
Yagisanpersia: I discovered it when I when to type a fax to my mother-in-law01:20
Yagisanpersia: not at all :(01:20
Yagisans/when/went01:20
persiaYagisan: That's too bad.  Did you end up writing it in gedit?01:21
Yagisanpersia: yep. then pasting it in OO.o for formatting01:21
persiaYagisan: Copy & paste works?  It's just the imput framework then?01:22
Yagisanpersia: yeah, Control+C and Shift+Insert work01:22
Yagisanpersia: input is stuffed. (I'm on dapper)01:22
Yagisanpersia: you also amd64 ?01:23
Yagisanpersia: Copy & Paste was stuffed in breezy. Doubt that will ever be fixed01:23
persiaYagisan: I just checked, and opening a UTF-8 file seems to work as well.  I'll read some changelogs, and see what I can find.  I'm also dapper AMD64, but I doubt it's architecture specific, especially as OOo is 32-bit.01:23
Yagisanpersia: it's preciously because OO.o is 32bit that I think it is arch specific. I doub;t i386 has this issue, as they didn't get the copy & paste one for breezy01:25
persiaYagisan: Hmmm...  Have to think about that :)01:25
Yagisanpersia: so, how was  ?01:27
persiaYagisan: My mother-in-law came to visit.  Dinner, etc.  For you?01:28
persiaYagisan: I found it.  OOo only supports IIIMP.  Now to find a bridge...01:32
Yagisanpersia: talked to my mother-in-law on the phone. my daughter gave my wife the gift of sick child on a weekend.01:33
persiaYagisan: Blergh.  If you really want to use OOo, install iiimgcf.  You'll need to switch to iiimf-htt-xbe for Xinput.  There don't appear to be any nice applets, etc.  I don't want to change my config that much: do you want to investigate more, or shall I just update the bug with my findings to date?01:39
Yagisanpersia: update the bug for now. I'll look at how much hassle using iiimgcf is later01:43
sivangah, staying at the hotel where canonical people stay is rather expansive ...:)01:45
ajmitchsivang: yes, and it's probably not cheap to stay somewhere else close01:45
sivangajmitch: so it seems, have you also checked? :)01:46
sivangajmitch: or are you sponsered for the summit?01:46
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ajmitchsivang: no, and no01:46
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Hobbseepoor ajmitch - paris would be fun01:47
sivangajmitch: I see, I guess we both get to spec stuff and help from remote this time :)01:47
sivangHobbsee: you going ?01:47
ajmitchHobbsee: sitting in a hotel at the airport for a week?01:47
Hobbseesivang: nope01:47
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ajmitchprobably more entitled than I am01:48
slomo_crimsun: ping?01:48
sivangslomo_: yo :)01:48
slomo_hi sivang :)01:48
Hobbseesivang: i've got assignments thru that block of time - and we must be in the uni for them...01:49
tsengthey are pretty selective about who gets a free ride, i only got to udu because ogra bugged mark nonstop01:49
YagisanHobbsee: why not ? I rocked up to UDU and well, to be honest the only stuff from me has gone to hoary-security01:50
sivangslomo_: will you be in paris?01:50
HobbseeYagisan: yes, but i have no passport, and it's all the way in paris.01:50
slomo_sivang: at least that's plannd :)01:50
sivangslomo_: are you being sponsered?01:50
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sivangslomo_: on a side note, you did not upload ekiga and gwget :) has there been any issue with my debdiffs ?01:52
\shSeveas: is it possible to remove this stupid cloak completly ? i even want to see my hostname then unaffiliated/sh/x-00000000201:52
slomo_sivang: oh did forget them, sorry :( i'll do it in some minutes01:52
slomo_sivang: and not sure about sponsoring yet01:52
Seveas\sh, poke lilo - I didn't tell him to put an unaffiliated cloak on you01:53
\shSeveas: k01:54
sivangslomo_: ah, it's said on the wiki page that sponsership has already been announced.01:56
sivangerr, emailed to relevant people. that is01:57
sivangslomo_: I should get approved for main then I won't even have to bug you about those as well :)01:58
slomo_sivang: hehe :) will happen faster than you think :P and gwget is in universe so you can upload it yourself anyway01:59
sivangslomo_: ah, I was sure it was in main according to it's control file, overrides..:-)02:03
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slomo_sivang: ekiga will be uploaded soon :)02:03
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phanatichi people02:28
Hobbseehi phanatic02:29
phanatichey Hobbsee02:29
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persiazakame: My apologies, but porting kdrill to make is not something I will complete any time soon.  When I have time again, I'll check the bug status, and if it remains as is, I'll take another look.02:36
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\shok...need to do some real life stuff02:55
phanaticsiretart: ping02:59
siretartphanatic: pong03:09
phanaticsiretart: regarding the uvfe (bug 44549). is that debdiff enough for you (or somebody else) to upload?03:10
UbugtuMalone bug 44549 in gnome-rdp "UVF Exception Request" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4454903:10
sivangslomo_: thank you :)03:11
slomo_sivang: np :)03:11
siretartphanatic: I haven't looked at it too closely. if it is 'minimal', then I'd say yes03:12
slomo_sivang: for gwget... use -1ubuntu1 and distribution dapper :P i've uploaded it as such for you already03:12
sivangslomo_: oh, thanks, I did not change anything in the getted source from the archive03:12
phanaticsiretart: it's not so minimal, since the source has some changes + several icons were added. so it would be better to upload to revu maybe?03:12
sivangslomo_: so I guess that's why it appeared to be supposed to in main and had this in the control file03:12
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siretartphanatic: perhpas03:15
phanaticsiretart: ok, the i'll do that03:16
phanatic*then03:16
bddebianHeya gang03:16
bddebianHi siretart, phanatic03:16
kgoetzhi bddebian03:17
phanatichey bddebian03:17
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siretarthi bddebian03:18
bddebianHeya kgoetz03:19
kgoetz:)03:19
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sivangbddebian: what do we want to break today? :-)03:21
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bddebiansivang: :-)  I'm probably not allowed, it's Mothers Day ya know :-)03:22
sivangheheh03:22
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KyralMorning03:34
kgoetzhi Kyral03:34
Hobbseehi again Kyral03:34
Kyrallol03:34
KyralGo to bed Hobbsee  :P03:34
Hobbseeheh03:34
Hobbseeno!03:34
kgoetzlol03:34
KyralYes!03:34
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Hobbseeno!03:35
KyralDon't make me use Hammerspace!03:35
kgoetzhehe03:35
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phanaticsiretart: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=233303:36
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Hobbseenasty.03:36
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Kyralhehe, i didn't hit you that hard03:36
sivangHobbsee: where are youfrom btw?03:38
kgoetzlooked bad from ehre03:38
Hobbseesivang: sydney03:38
kgoetz*here03:38
sivangHobbsee: ah, cool03:38
Hobbseei mean, antarctica :P03:38
Kyralkgoetz: anime rule...uuh forgot lol03:38
kgoetzlol03:38
sivangHobbsee: yeah, I've heared :p03:39
Kyraldamnit lol03:39
kgoetzKyral: <grin>03:39
kgoetzsivang: i can vouch for it ;)03:39
KyralIf Syndey is Antartica03:39
Kyralthen what is Potsdam NY?03:39
kgoetzKyral: far away?03:39
Hobbseehehe03:40
KyralSeeing as I have had to walk to class in -30 F weather (before wind chill)03:40
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Mithrandir-15C is just nice, though.03:44
kgoetz( Hobbsee, what's -15F?)03:45
kgoetz*-3003:45
Hobbseeer, i dont remmeber....03:45
Hobbseei have a program that does that for me :P03:46
Mithrandirhmm, I was wrong, -30F is ~-35C03:46
kgoetzlol03:46
MithrandirYou have: tempF(-30)03:46
MithrandirYou want: tempC -34.44444403:46
Mithrandirthat's a tad cold.  Not unbearable, but cold.03:47
kgoetzhm. "bracing"03:47
kgoetzcold enough for me to have pants on instead of shorts03:47
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Mithrandirwell, sure.  I pass that threshold at about 0C.03:48
kbrookshey03:48
kbrooksi have a question03:48
kgoetzMithrandir: hehe03:48
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kbrooksWHERE are .desktop files installed to, and how do i refresh the menu?03:48
kbrooksthe applications menu03:48
MithrandirHobbsee: you should rather wear skirts.  Much prettier. :-)03:49
Hobbseeheh03:49
kbrooksWHERE are .desktop files installed to, and how do i refresh the applications menu?03:49
kgoetzoooh Mithrandir ;)03:49
Hobbseetotally impractical though...03:49
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kgoetzkbrooks: wait your turn and don't spam03:49
kbrookswaiting... waiting...03:49
MithrandirHobbsee: I wouldn't know.03:50
Hobbseehehe03:50
kbrookskgoetz: oh? this channel is sequential?03:50
kbrookskgoetz: triaged?03:50
kbrookskgoetz: or what?03:50
kgoetzkbrooks: we are talking about hobbsee's clothing, when that's not interesting it's your turn ;)03:51
kgoetzin /usr/share/somewhere i think in answer to your question, but i would have to loko it up03:51
kbrookskgoetz: sequential then, i assume03:51
Hobbseeheh03:52
Mithrandir: tfheen@thosu ~ > dpkg -L gedit-common| grep desktop$03:52
Mithrandir/usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop03:52
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MithrandirHobbsee: we're not just talking about your, but in general, I think.03:52
kbrooksMithrandir: so how do i refresh the meny?03:52
Hobbseeoh, fair enough.  keep talking :P03:52
kbrooksmenu*03:52
Mithrandirkbrooks: pkill gnome-panel ?03:52
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bddebianheh03:55
Hobbseeno...wait...who do i want...it might be bddebian that i want...03:55
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Hobbseebddebian: who did the original list of dh_iconcache fixes?03:55
kgoetzlol03:55
bddebianHobbsee: Probably dholbach.  It certainly wasn't me :)03:56
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Hobbseebddebian: right.03:56
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kbrooksMithrandir: doing this in a package04:02
kbrooksMithrandir: pkill is a Bad Idea (tm)04:02
Mithrandirkbrooks: I think the panel picks it up automatically then?04:03
kgoetzyou could also try loggin out and in again, and i think therse a menu-update tyupe program04:03
kgoetzMithrandir: that's what i thought04:03
kbrooksMithrandir: hm, ok, ill try04:03
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kgoetzanyone good with perl around?04:32
bddebianIs anyone good with perl? ;-P04:33
kgoetzlol. my bad :/04:34
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kbrookskgoetz: how about asking in #perl ?04:34
kgoetzkbrooks: this is an ubuntu bug related question, not a random perl enquiry04:35
kbrookskgoetz: do tell.04:35
kgoetzbug 44467 (vrms). i cant follow the code to work out wtf it's doing04:35
UbugtuMalone bug 44467 in vrms "False positive on ttf-gentium" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4446704:35
kgoetzsomeohow it works out if a package is free or non free, but it doesnt have a list of non free packages. i think it might be the package in question is still marked non-free04:36
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kgoetzelkbuntu: stop stalking me :(04:51
elkbuntunevah!!!!!!!!!!!!04:51
kgoetzsif!04:51
elkbuntuonly here so i can spy/listen/learn :)04:51
kgoetzlol. i'm here to pounce on people who want to learn04:52
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kgoetzhehe.05:00
zakamehi all! :D05:08
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bddebianAny PPC users alive?05:59
freeflying-ibookbddebian: hi06:00
bddebianHeya freeflying-ibook06:00
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bddebianfreeflying-ibook: Would you mind installing the new xcircuit and seeing if it crashes on startup?06:00
freeflying-ibookbddebian: what can I do for you?06:00
freeflying-ibookbddebian: 3.4.21-0ubuntu1?06:01
bddebianYep06:01
freeflying-ibookbddebian: no crash06:02
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bddebianfreeflying-ibook: Excellent, thanks!06:03
freeflying-ibookbddebian: np06:03
kgoetznight06:08
bddebianGNight kgoetz06:09
kgoetzlater bddebian. .have fun :)06:09
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tuxmaniacbddebian: Thanks06:11
tuxmaniacbddebian: Sorry am dead tight!! Am on a business trip actually.. :((06:11
tuxmaniacbddebian: Wish you a happy journey too :D06:12
bddebianthx06:12
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Specchangelog's are supposed to be manually edited, yes?08:50
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sivangSpec_: there a tool, dch that helps you edit it but yestm it's generally manually edited08:59
ivoksdch rulz :)09:01
Spec_yeap :)09:14
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sivangSpec: dch will create the neccessary entries for you just to fill up09:15
Specyeap09:15
Specdch -i is what i used09:15
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zulyou09:21
zuldoh..hey09:21
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crimsunslomo_: pong10:23
slomo_crimsun: is there a way to query one alsa soundcard for it's capabilities? i want to know what sampling rates it supports :)10:24
crimsunslomo_: yes10:32
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slomo_crimsun: how?10:33
crimsunslomo_: take a look at how jackd does it in drivers/alsa/alsa_driver.c10:34
slomo_crimsun: hm, a simple shell command would be better ;)10:34
crimsunerg, well, that would require you open playback and/or capture and inspect its hw_params10:36
crimsunfor instance, ``aplay /dev/zero'', then inspect /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params10:39
Laser_awaycrimsun: did you see the new maxima bug info?10:50
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crimsunLaserJock: not yet, I'll look11:23
LaserJockcrimsun: basically it sounds like compiling maxima with a different lisp compiler (cmcul is reported to work) fixes the connection problems11:24
crimsunLaserJock: ah, excellent. So perhaps gcl can be avoided?11:26
crimsun(will look in a bit)11:26
crimsunheh, the usplash 0.2-2 changelog is pretty scathing11:36
tsengthats keybuk for you11:36
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LaserJockwow, that is something11:37
whiprushI chuckled also11:41
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zulwho is frank?11:52
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LaserJockzul: Frank Schoep on ubuntu-devel I imagine11:53

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