[12:02] <bddebian> Ack, bpftopcf: command not found??
[12:07] <phanatic> raphink: ping
[12:07] <raphink> pong phanatic
[12:07] <phanatic> raphink: do you have a little time? can i msg you?
[12:07] <raphink> sure msg me
[02:13] <lifeless> morning y'all
[02:15] <tseng> hi lifeless, congrats on 0.8
[02:16] <lifeless> danke
[02:18] <bddebian> Hi lifeless, tseng
[02:18] <tseng> hi
[04:25] <kbrooks> bbl
[06:10] <Hobbsee> hi everyone
[06:46] <Yagisan> G'day all
[06:49] <Yagisan> anyone with an amd64 box and a few minutes to spare ?
[06:50] <tuxmaniac> Yagisan: Good morning!!!
[06:51] <Yagisan> tuxmaniac: G'day. What's up ?
[06:51] <StevenK> steven@liquified:~% uname -m
[06:51] <StevenK> x86_64
[06:51] <StevenK> Yagisan: ^
[06:51] <tuxmaniac> Yagisan: Got my xcircuit status changed to Fix commited.. :) Thanks to bddebian
[06:51] <Yagisan> StevenK: could you confirm Bug #44100 for me. Any CJK language will do.
[06:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 44100 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org in dapper lacks canadian english spellcheck" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/44100
[06:52] <Yagisan> crap wrong number
[06:52] <Yagisan> Bug #44626
[06:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 44626 in openoffice.org "Can't Input Japanese Text" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/44626
[06:52] <Yagisan> tuxmaniac: good to hear
[06:53] <StevenK> Yagisan: You'll need to talk me through it, and my Dapper is a chroot.
[06:53] <StevenK> My laptop is dapper, but it's i386
[06:55] <StevenK> Whee. This might hurt. Installing Japanese language support along with openoffice is likely to take a while.
[06:56] <Yagisan> StevenK: hmm. if a chroot this might be difficult
[06:56] <Yagisan> StevenK: I change sessions with gdm
[06:57] <Yagisan> StevenK: perhaps it's best to wait for someone with a full dapper amd64 install
[06:59] <Yagisan> StevenK: basically it is pick japanese session, load OO.o, try to type, and notice you only get english. followed by smack head into table.
[07:01] <Yagisan> StevenK: The heisenbug I was tracking down yesterday turned out to be a schroedinbug instead. It should never have worked at all.
[07:22] <StevenK> Yagisan: And installing ubuntu-desktop in my building chroot might hurt.
[07:26] <Kyral> Actually.... Hobbsee how do you know I'm not a bot :P We have never actually met or spoken :P
[07:26] <Yagisan> StevenK: quite possible it may do more then hurt
[07:26] <Hobbsee> Kyral: i hear it on good authority, by people who know you :P
[07:26] <Kyral> lol
[07:26] <Kyral> you mean my GPG Key :P
[07:27] <Hobbsee> Kyral: no, you :P - at LCA and wherever else...
[07:27] <Hobbsee> er, no, whichever one i mean
[07:27] <Kyral> UBZ?
[07:27] <Hobbsee> UDU & UBZ
[07:27] <Hobbsee> that's it
[07:27] <Kyral> I wasn't at UDU
[07:27] <Hobbsee> ah
[07:27] <Kyral> UBZ yes
[07:27] <Hobbsee> UBZ then :P'
[07:27] <Kyral> And I have the pictures to prove it :P
[07:28] <Hobbsee> grr - my brain's not supposed to work, after going to bed after 2 am 2 nights ina a row!
[07:28] <Kyral> lol
[07:28] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: after a week, you'll get used to it
[07:28] <Hobbsee> heh
[07:29] <Yagisan> alternatively have kids. you get used to just 1 hour a day
[07:29] <Kyral> lol
[07:29] <Kyral> I think Hobbsee is a little young for that :P
[07:29] <Hobbsee> eek..no thanks!
[07:30] <Kyral> Toldja
[07:30] <Yagisan> shame
[07:30] <Hobbsee> Yagisan: how old did you think i am, anyway???
[07:30] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: about my age ~24
[07:30] <Kyral> 17
[07:30] <Kyral> :P
[07:30] <Hobbsee> Yagisan: dream on, hehe :D
[07:30] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: your older !?!
[07:30] <Kyral> Am I right?
[07:31] <Hobbsee> nope
[07:31] <Hobbsee> :P
[07:31] <Kyral> wait what is that a nope to
[07:31] <Kyral> ....
[07:31] <Kyral> Hobbsee: I know that isn't true
[07:31] <Hobbsee> :P
[07:31] <Kyral> I know you are younger than me
[07:31] <Kyral> <<== 20
[07:31] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: what year of uni are you ?
[07:31] <Hobbsee> Yagisan: 1st
[07:32] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: have a year off after year 12 ?
[07:32] <Hobbsee> nope
[07:32] <Kyral> 18?
[07:32] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: you'd be between 18 & 21 then
[07:32] <Hobbsee> turning 18 in july...
[07:32] <Kyral> see I was right
[07:32] <Kyral> 17 :P
[07:33] <Kyral> lol
[07:33] <Kyral> FORGERY!! ;P
[07:33] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: really ? wow, you don't photograph so well
[07:33] <Hobbsee> Yagisan: haha...
[07:33] <Kyral> ....Yagisan
[07:33] <Kyral> RUN
[07:33] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: almost as bad as me
[07:33] <Kyral> now :P
[07:34] <Hobbsee> i thought you were never supposed to say that to a woman!
[07:34] <Kyral> You aren't
[07:34] <Yagisan> Kyral: I've decided today is the day to kill myself
[07:34] <Kyral> Can I help?
[07:34] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: see, here's evidence - you shouldnt take any pictures of me while you're here...
[07:34] <Hobbsee> hehehe
[07:35] <Yagisan> Kyral: well, I'm doing so well by myself ...
[07:35] <Kyral> I have a very bad picture
[07:35] <Kyral> of me
[07:35] <Hobbsee> Kyral: never seen yours...
[07:35] <Kyral> Lemme dig it out :P
[07:36] <Yagisan> rereading those last to lines seems well, odd for motu chat
[07:36] <Yagisan> s/to/two
[07:36] <Kyral> http://clarkson.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2001714&l=782ae&id=21601643
[07:36] <Kyral> ...
[07:36] <Kyral> BTW look for the idiot flashing the V sign ;P
[07:37] <Kyral> oh sorry
[07:37] <Kyral> I used the blade side of the Katana :P
[07:37] <Hobbsee> you really do have a deathwish today, dont you Yagisan!
[07:37] <Yagisan> more! more!
[07:37] <Hobbsee> hehe fun
[07:37] <Hobbsee> ooh, snow!
[07:37] <Kyral> hmm
[07:37] <Kyral> this gives me an idea
[07:38] <Kyral> yah that was in Ottawa Canada
[07:38] <tuxmaniac> Hobbsee: hi
[07:38] <Hobbsee> hi tuxmaniac
[07:39] <Kyral> didja find the pic of me on my cell
[07:39] <tuxmaniac> Hobbsee: Where is StevenK !! Did he jump on you today too :)
[07:39] <Hobbsee> tuxmaniac: he's here, i was talking to him earlier.  i dont remember if he jumped on me
[07:40] <Kyral> Hobbsee: ?
[07:40] <Yagisan> is there any fundamental difference between vsprintf and vsnprintf that would cause the first to work, yet the second to only print 7 chars ?
[07:40] <Hobbsee> Kyral: yeah
[07:41] <Hobbsee> i thikn so
[07:41] <Hobbsee> :P
[07:41] <Kyral> bad no? :P
[07:41] <Hobbsee> hehe yeah
[07:41] <Kyral> I think the caption I put is "Me, being an idiot" or somesuch :P
[07:41] <Hobbsee> oh yes, that one...
[07:41] <Kyral> lol
[07:41] <Hobbsee> s/on/in
[07:41] <Kyral> its ice
[07:42] <Kyral> Thats one massive canal that freezes over every winter
[07:42] <Kyral> I am happy to say I only beefed it twice
[07:43] <Kyral> <== Loves ice skating
[07:44] <Kyral> ..ouch
[07:44] <Kyral> I <3 Snow
[07:44] <`6og> never seen snow o_0
[07:44] <Kyral> Yah I beefed it when I ran into snow on the ice
[07:44] <imbrandon> never seen snow ?!? jez
[07:44] <Yagisan> too warm here
[07:44] <imbrandon> heh, where is here?
[07:45] <Kyral> Aussie I thought?
[07:45] <Yagisan> Sydney
[07:45] <Kyral> wait
[07:45] <imbrandon> cool
[07:45] <Kyral> lol
[07:45] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee
[07:45] <Hobbsee> hi imbrandon
[07:45] <Kyral> Hobbsee: you should have come to UBZ :P
[07:45] <`6og> Yagisan: lame excuse
[07:45] <Hobbsee> Kyral: i have no passport
[07:45] <Kyral> oh wait it wasn't snowing then....
[07:45] <`6og> your a few hours drive from the snow feilds
[07:45] <Kyral> Hobbsee: I have one!!
[07:45] <Yagisan> `6og: sure, buy me a car
[07:45] <Kyral> I'll come visit and bring snow lol
[07:45] <imbrandon> i found out what that bug is kinda, well atleaste how to reporduce it now just to figure it out ( atleaste enough to report it on launchpad )
[07:45] <Hobbsee> Kyral: sure, but they wont let me pass on your picture :P
[07:45] <`6og> `6og: sure. i'll drop it off
[07:45] <Hobbsee> heh
[07:46] <Laser_away> yikes, that's sad. I've never seen a year without seeing snow at least 4 months out of the year
[07:46] <Kyral> StevenK: you poor depraved soul
[07:46] <StevenK> Hail the size of golf balls, I have though.
[07:46] <Kyral> Laser_away: Amen to that!
[07:46] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:47] <Kyral> LJ where are you again?
[07:47] <Laser_away> currently Reno, NV
[07:47] <Laser_away> but I grew up in Montana
[07:47] <Kyral> Casinos!!
[07:47] <Kyral> I'm sorry
[07:47] <Laser_away> yes, lots of them
[07:47] <Laser_away> I never go though
[07:47] <Kyral> Montana == Nowhere USA :P
[07:48] <Laser_away> Kyral: yep, and I miss it a lot
[07:49] <Laser_away> I grew up and go my BA in a town of 4,000
[07:49] <Kyral> ouch
[07:49] <Kyral> well, Potsdam is smaller....
[07:49] <Kyral> Potsdam, NY :P
[07:50] <Laser_away> 9,000 in a county the size of Rhode Island
[07:50] <Kyral> Whoa, they got that many people in that tiny spot?
[07:51] <Kyral> I remember driving through RI once
[07:51] <Yagisan> `6og: so, when are you dropping that car off?
[07:51] <Kyral> "Welcome to Rhode Island"
[07:51] <Kyral> minute later
[07:51] <Kyral> "Now Leaving Rhode Island"
[07:52] <Laser_away> `6og: sorry, 9,000 people in ~600 square miles
[07:52] <Laser_away> but I'm guessing square miles isn't going to help much either ;-)
[07:53] <Laser_away> I haven't been into the casinos here more then 5 times in the 4 years I've lived here
[07:54] <Laser_away> the only reason I would ever go it for a buffet :-)
[07:54] <`6og> Laser_away: fraid not ;)
[07:55] <Kyral> I went in
[07:55] <Kyral> played craps
[07:55] <Kyral> and won 160
[07:55] <Kyral> dollars
[07:55] <Hobbsee> nice!
[07:55] <Hobbsee> too much chance for casino stuff...
[07:55] <Laser_away> yep, that is why it is so addictive
[07:55] <Hobbsee> even card games
[07:55] <Yagisan> Kyral: yeah, and how much did you lose
[07:55] <Kyral> Yagisan: that was NET
[07:55] <Laser_away> we have gambling addiction treatment programs here
[07:55] <tuxmaniac> Yagisan: guess 320 $
[07:55] <Hobbsee> and yes, i knwo that craps isnt a card game :P
[07:56] <Kyral> Yagisan: as in how much I won minus loss
[07:56] <Laser_away> we bought our house from a lady who was $70,000 in debt because of gambeling
[07:57] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:57] <Laser_away> I see people pushing shopping carts downt he streat because they gambled their cars away
[07:57] <Laser_away> not pretty
[07:59] <Kyral> okay
[07:59] <Kyral> 02:00
[07:59] <Kyral> BEDTIME!
[08:00] <Laser_away> yep, cya Kyral
[08:00] <Hobbsee> night Kyral
[08:00] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:00] <Hobbsee> 2am is time to start hacking :P
[08:00] <Kyral> You like teh away?
[08:00] <Kyral> Hobbsee: not when you need to be up at 08:00
[08:00] <Kyral> and coherent
[08:00] <`6og> hehe. night Kyral
[08:01] <Hobbsee> sure it is.  see this mroning.
[08:01] <`6og> Hobbsee: youth of today :P
[08:01] <Hobbsee> :P
[08:01] <Kyral> I need 6 hours of sleep or else my already hard to keep up with speech pattern is even harder to understand :P
[08:02] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee wanna help me reporduce this bug and possibly track it down ( wanna make sure its just not me but i dont think so becouse i have tried it on 2 diffrent machines here at home )
[08:02] <Laser_away> man, I used to be able to do all nighters in college, but since I got married I just can't do it anymore. To much to do during the day
[08:02] <Kyral> anyway
[08:02] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: what bug?
[08:02] <Kyral> cat Kyral >> /dev/bed
[08:02] <Kyral> for REAL!
[08:02] <`6og> hehe
[08:02] <`6og> lol Laser_away
[08:03] <imbrandon> heh i dunno what to call it but if you install ( dont even have to use it ) smbfs , hald take a LONG time to start when booting ( like 2 or 3 minutes )
[08:03] <imbrandon> uninstall smbfs everything returns to normal
[08:03] <Hobbsee> ack...i dont want to kill my system by trying that :P
[08:03] <`6og> imbrandon: sure it's hald lagging?
[08:03] <imbrandon> i've got it to do it here at the house 3 times, wannna see if soneone else gets the same resule
[08:04] <imbrandon> `6og: well thats the message on the startup, is "hald starting up ......." eventualy it will but takes forever
[08:04] <imbrandon> result*
[08:05] <`6og> strange.
[08:05] <imbrandon> btw its on uptodate dapper ( breezy seems unaffected )
[08:05] <imbrandon> if that wasent obvious
[08:05] <imbrandon> heh
[08:06] <imbrandon> i thought it was a problem with the hal package at first so i did a clean install and updated everyting BUT hal and booted same thing, so i went ahead and updated hal and then removed smbfs ( thats the only thing that was installed other than default kubuntu )
[08:07] <imbrandon> and booted smooth
[08:07] <`6og> correct me if i'm wrong - hal=hardware abstraction layer?
[08:08] <imbrandon> so i did the same thing ( installed smbfs , rebooted , uninstalled smbfs ) to make sure that was it, i'm not even sure what logs to look at to give a core dev an idea of whats going on
[08:08] <imbrandon> `6og: yes
[08:08] <`6og> imbrandon: ask in -devel, where to look for stuff
[08:08] <imbrandon> dont know what hal has to do with it but thats where it freezes on boot every time , when starting hal
[08:08] <`6og> niether do i, that's why i checked ;)
[08:08] <imbrandon> k
[08:09] <imbrandon> will do ( hopefully someones awake ;)
[08:09] <`6og> ;)
[08:20] <Yagisan> damm, still once place behind ajmitch
[08:22] <tseng> ?
[08:26] <Yagisan> tseng: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=45104
[09:02] <Hobbsee> stupid thing!
[09:22] <crimsun> Laser_away: pong (unlikely)
[09:31] <freeflying> crimsun: hi, would you mind have a look at the new zhcon, thx
[09:32] <crimsun> freeflying: revu/debian/ubuntu (url)?
[09:33] <freeflying> crimsun: I just failed build, due to the changes in Makefile, after patched, still can not work
[09:33] <freeflying> crimsun: new version can support utf8
[09:33] <crimsun> freeflying: ok, got a url?
[09:35] <freeflying> crimsun: http://sourceforge.net/projects/zhcon
[09:36] <crimsun> ah ok, upstream
[09:36] <freeflying> crimsun: how about include it in dapper?
[09:36] <crimsun> freeflying: will look in a few minutes. To include it, you'd need to file an Upstream Version Freeze exception request
[09:37] <freeflying> crimsun: after all , rc is coming ,so I don't know weather the UVFe will be approved  :)
[09:37] <crimsun> freeflying: if it fixes a critical bug, I'd still file a UVFe req
[09:38] <freeflying> crimsun: the critical is that old version can not support utf8, heh
[09:39] <freeflying> so, cjk guy can not input in native under console
[09:40] <crimsun> freeflying: but with zhcon, (s)he can?
[09:40] <crimsun> new zhcon, that is
[09:40] <freeflying> crimsun: sure
[09:41] <crimsun> freeflying: ok, that's worth filing a UVFe req
[09:42] <freeflying> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/216 --< change the dir for install zhcon.conf
[10:11] <phanatic> morning
[11:00] <Toadstool> morning
[11:01] <phanatic> hi Toadstool
[11:01] <Toadstool> hi phanatic
[11:05] <siretart> hey folks
[11:05] <Toadstool> hi siretart
[11:08] <Toadstool> hey Yagisan
[11:09] <phanatic> hello Yagisan
[11:16] <\sh> moins
[11:21] <ajmitch> hi \sh
[11:23] <\sh> updating pbuilder, preparing clamav merge...
[11:26] <sivang> hi all
[11:26] <sivang> hey phanatic :)
[11:27] <phanatic> hello sivang :)
[11:27] <\sh> hey sivang :) did I see it right, that you started uploading? ;)
[11:27] <phanatic> sivang: i cannot go :(
[11:27] <sivang> phanatic: why no?
[11:28] <phanatic> sivang: no sponsorship (which i can understand)
[11:28] <sivang> phanatic: ah I see, sponsership emails already went out?
[11:28] <phanatic> sivang: yeah, on friday
[11:30] <\sh> sivang: are you attending paris?
[11:31] <sivang> \sh: not sure yet, I did not receive any emails from Jane on friday, so I'll either stay at home, or go for a trip arounde EU and drop by for a couple of days or so.
[11:31] <sivang> ;-)
[11:31] <\sh> sivang: hehe :) the latter is better :)
[11:32] <sivang> \sh: are you coming ?
[11:32] <\sh> sivang: I'll try visit the people in paris for one or two nights if it's possible...
[11:32] <Yagisan> w00t - I found the bug :)
[11:32] <\sh> sivang: I never applied for sponsorship and actually we have product launch in june
[11:32] <sivang> \sh: I see, good luck then :-)
[11:34] <\sh> sivang: but one weekend should do..or at least the beginning of the conf (ubuntu love day ;))
[11:35] <sivang> \sh: I understood there is not going to be any love day on this no? just hard spec writing :)
[11:35] <sivang> who else is going there?
[11:35] <\sh> sivang: every day is ubuntu love day ;)
[11:35] <sivang> this is true :-D
[11:40] <\sh> siretart: ping
[11:56] <siretart> \sh: pong
[11:57] <\sh> siretart: regarding https://launchpad.net/bugs/42568 I found only the fix for /var/run in the actual clamav package in ubuntu....
[11:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 42568 in clamav "Security issue fixed in 0.88.2" [Normal,Confirmed] 
[12:02] <\sh> siretart: and some rules adjustments :)
[12:09] <siretart> \sh: yes?
[12:20] <sivang> siretart: are you going to paris?
[12:21] <siretart> sivang: I don't know. I'm not sponsored, and I have to look how expensive it would be
[12:21] <sivang> siretart: me as well :)
[12:44] <\sh> hehe...my first sponsored uploads since a couple of months ....
[01:17] <Tonio_> hey
[01:17] <Yagisan> G'day Tonio_
[01:18] <Yagisan> persia: thanks for confirming Bug #44626
[01:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 44626 in openoffice.org "Can't Input Japanese Text" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/44626
[01:19] <persia> Yagisan: No worries.  That's the type of bug likely to annoy me at some point when I depend on the correct behaviour :)
[01:20] <persia> Yagisan: Are you familiar with the IM mechanism used in Open Office?  I don't know where to even begin investigating that.
[01:20] <Yagisan> persia: I discovered it when I when to type a fax to my mother-in-law
[01:20] <Yagisan> persia: not at all :(
[01:20] <Yagisan> s/when/went
[01:21] <persia> Yagisan: That's too bad.  Did you end up writing it in gedit?
[01:21] <Yagisan> persia: yep. then pasting it in OO.o for formatting
[01:22] <persia> Yagisan: Copy & paste works?  It's just the imput framework then?
[01:22] <Yagisan> persia: yeah, Control+C and Shift+Insert work
[01:22] <Yagisan> persia: input is stuffed. (I'm on dapper)
[01:23] <Yagisan> persia: you also amd64 ?
[01:23] <Yagisan> persia: Copy & Paste was stuffed in breezy. Doubt that will ever be fixed
[01:23] <persia> Yagisan: I just checked, and opening a UTF-8 file seems to work as well.  I'll read some changelogs, and see what I can find.  I'm also dapper AMD64, but I doubt it's architecture specific, especially as OOo is 32-bit.
[01:25] <Yagisan> persia: it's preciously because OO.o is 32bit that I think it is arch specific. I doub;t i386 has this issue, as they didn't get the copy & paste one for breezy
[01:25] <persia> Yagisan: Hmmm...  Have to think about that :)
[01:27] <Yagisan> persia: so, how was  ?
[01:28] <persia> Yagisan: My mother-in-law came to visit.  Dinner, etc.  For you?
[01:32] <persia> Yagisan: I found it.  OOo only supports IIIMP.  Now to find a bridge...
[01:33] <Yagisan> persia: talked to my mother-in-law on the phone. my daughter gave my wife the gift of sick child on a weekend.
[01:39] <persia> Yagisan: Blergh.  If you really want to use OOo, install iiimgcf.  You'll need to switch to iiimf-htt-xbe for Xinput.  There don't appear to be any nice applets, etc.  I don't want to change my config that much: do you want to investigate more, or shall I just update the bug with my findings to date?
[01:43] <Yagisan> persia: update the bug for now. I'll look at how much hassle using iiimgcf is later
[01:45] <sivang> ah, staying at the hotel where canonical people stay is rather expansive ...:)
[01:45] <ajmitch> sivang: yes, and it's probably not cheap to stay somewhere else close
[01:46] <sivang> ajmitch: so it seems, have you also checked? :)
[01:46] <sivang> ajmitch: or are you sponsered for the summit?
[01:46] <ajmitch> sivang: no, and no
[01:47] <Hobbsee> poor ajmitch - paris would be fun
[01:47] <sivang> ajmitch: I see, I guess we both get to spec stuff and help from remote this time :)
[01:47] <sivang> Hobbsee: you going ?
[01:47] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: sitting in a hotel at the airport for a week?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> sivang: nope
[01:48] <ajmitch> probably more entitled than I am
[01:48] <slomo_> crimsun: ping?
[01:48] <sivang> slomo_: yo :)
[01:48] <slomo_> hi sivang :)
[01:49] <Hobbsee> sivang: i've got assignments thru that block of time - and we must be in the uni for them...
[01:49] <tseng> they are pretty selective about who gets a free ride, i only got to udu because ogra bugged mark nonstop
[01:50] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: why not ? I rocked up to UDU and well, to be honest the only stuff from me has gone to hoary-security
[01:50] <sivang> slomo_: will you be in paris?
[01:50] <Hobbsee> Yagisan: yes, but i have no passport, and it's all the way in paris.
[01:50] <slomo_> sivang: at least that's plannd :)
[01:50] <sivang> slomo_: are you being sponsered?
[01:52] <sivang> slomo_: on a side note, you did not upload ekiga and gwget :) has there been any issue with my debdiffs ?
[01:52] <\sh> Seveas: is it possible to remove this stupid cloak completly ? i even want to see my hostname then unaffiliated/sh/x-000000002
[01:52] <slomo_> sivang: oh did forget them, sorry :( i'll do it in some minutes
[01:52] <slomo_> sivang: and not sure about sponsoring yet
[01:53] <Seveas> \sh, poke lilo - I didn't tell him to put an unaffiliated cloak on you
[01:54] <\sh> Seveas: k
[01:56] <sivang> slomo_: ah, it's said on the wiki page that sponsership has already been announced.
[01:57] <sivang> err, emailed to relevant people. that is
[01:58] <sivang> slomo_: I should get approved for main then I won't even have to bug you about those as well :)
[01:59] <slomo_> sivang: hehe :) will happen faster than you think :P and gwget is in universe so you can upload it yourself anyway
[02:03] <sivang> slomo_: ah, I was sure it was in main according to it's control file, overrides..:-)
[02:03] <slomo_> sivang: ekiga will be uploaded soon :)
[02:28] <phanatic> hi people
[02:29] <Hobbsee> hi phanatic
[02:29] <phanatic> hey Hobbsee
[02:36] <persia> zakame: My apologies, but porting kdrill to make is not something I will complete any time soon.  When I have time again, I'll check the bug status, and if it remains as is, I'll take another look.
[02:55] <\sh> ok...need to do some real life stuff
[02:59] <phanatic> siretart: ping
[03:09] <siretart> phanatic: pong
[03:10] <phanatic> siretart: regarding the uvfe (bug 44549). is that debdiff enough for you (or somebody else) to upload?
[03:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 44549 in gnome-rdp "UVF Exception Request" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/44549
[03:11] <sivang> slomo_: thank you :)
[03:11] <slomo_> sivang: np :)
[03:12] <siretart> phanatic: I haven't looked at it too closely. if it is 'minimal', then I'd say yes
[03:12] <slomo_> sivang: for gwget... use -1ubuntu1 and distribution dapper :P i've uploaded it as such for you already
[03:12] <sivang> slomo_: oh, thanks, I did not change anything in the getted source from the archive
[03:12] <phanatic> siretart: it's not so minimal, since the source has some changes + several icons were added. so it would be better to upload to revu maybe?
[03:12] <sivang> slomo_: so I guess that's why it appeared to be supposed to in main and had this in the control file
[03:15] <siretart> phanatic: perhpas
[03:16] <phanatic> siretart: ok, the i'll do that
[03:16] <phanatic> *then
[03:16] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:16] <bddebian> Hi siretart, phanatic
[03:17] <kgoetz> hi bddebian
[03:17] <phanatic> hey bddebian
[03:18] <siretart> hi bddebian
[03:19] <bddebian> Heya kgoetz
[03:19] <kgoetz> :)
[03:21] <sivang> bddebian: what do we want to break today? :-)
[03:22] <bddebian> sivang: :-)  I'm probably not allowed, it's Mothers Day ya know :-)
[03:22] <sivang> heheh
[03:34] <Kyral> Morning
[03:34] <kgoetz> hi Kyral
[03:34] <Hobbsee> hi again Kyral
[03:34] <Kyral> lol
[03:34] <Kyral> Go to bed Hobbsee  :P
[03:34] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:34] <Hobbsee> no!
[03:34] <kgoetz> lol
[03:34] <Kyral> Yes!
[03:35] <Hobbsee> no!
[03:35] <Kyral> Don't make me use Hammerspace!
[03:35] <kgoetz> hehe
[03:36] <phanatic> siretart: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2333
[03:36] <Hobbsee> nasty.
[03:36] <Kyral> hehe, i didn't hit you that hard
[03:38] <sivang> Hobbsee: where are youfrom btw?
[03:38] <kgoetz> looked bad from ehre
[03:38] <Hobbsee> sivang: sydney
[03:38] <kgoetz> *here
[03:38] <sivang> Hobbsee: ah, cool
[03:38] <Hobbsee> i mean, antarctica :P
[03:38] <Kyral> kgoetz: anime rule...uuh forgot lol
[03:38] <kgoetz> lol
[03:39] <sivang> Hobbsee: yeah, I've heared :p
[03:39] <Kyral> damnit lol
[03:39] <kgoetz> Kyral: <grin>
[03:39] <kgoetz> sivang: i can vouch for it ;)
[03:39] <Kyral> If Syndey is Antartica
[03:39] <Kyral> then what is Potsdam NY?
[03:39] <kgoetz> Kyral: far away?
[03:40] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:40] <Kyral> Seeing as I have had to walk to class in -30 F weather (before wind chill)
[03:44] <Mithrandir> -15C is just nice, though.
[03:45] <kgoetz> ( Hobbsee, what's -15F?)
[03:45] <kgoetz> *-30
[03:45] <Hobbsee> er, i dont remmeber....
[03:46] <Hobbsee> i have a program that does that for me :P
[03:46] <Mithrandir> hmm, I was wrong, -30F is ~-35C
[03:46] <kgoetz> lol
[03:46] <Mithrandir> You have: tempF(-30)
[03:46] <Mithrandir> You want: tempC -34.444444
[03:47] <Mithrandir> that's a tad cold.  Not unbearable, but cold.
[03:47] <kgoetz> hm. "bracing"
[03:47] <kgoetz> cold enough for me to have pants on instead of shorts
[03:48] <Mithrandir> well, sure.  I pass that threshold at about 0C.
[03:48] <kbrooks> hey
[03:48] <kbrooks> i have a question
[03:48] <kgoetz> Mithrandir: hehe
[03:48] <kbrooks> WHERE are .desktop files installed to, and how do i refresh the menu?
[03:48] <kbrooks> the applications menu
[03:49] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: you should rather wear skirts.  Much prettier. :-)
[03:49] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:49] <kbrooks> WHERE are .desktop files installed to, and how do i refresh the applications menu?
[03:49] <kgoetz> oooh Mithrandir ;)
[03:49] <Hobbsee> totally impractical though...
[03:49] <kgoetz> kbrooks: wait your turn and don't spam
[03:49] <kbrooks> waiting... waiting...
[03:50] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: I wouldn't know.
[03:50] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:50] <kbrooks> kgoetz: oh? this channel is sequential?
[03:50] <kbrooks> kgoetz: triaged?
[03:50] <kbrooks> kgoetz: or what?
[03:51] <kgoetz> kbrooks: we are talking about hobbsee's clothing, when that's not interesting it's your turn ;)
[03:51] <kgoetz> in /usr/share/somewhere i think in answer to your question, but i would have to loko it up
[03:51] <kbrooks> kgoetz: sequential then, i assume
[03:52] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:52] <Mithrandir> : tfheen@thosu ~ > dpkg -L gedit-common| grep desktop$
[03:52] <Mithrandir> /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop
[03:52] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: we're not just talking about your, but in general, I think.
[03:52] <kbrooks> Mithrandir: so how do i refresh the meny?
[03:52] <Hobbsee> oh, fair enough.  keep talking :P
[03:52] <kbrooks> menu*
[03:52] <Mithrandir> kbrooks: pkill gnome-panel ?
[03:55] <bddebian> heh
[03:55] <Hobbsee> no...wait...who do i want...it might be bddebian that i want...
[03:55] <Hobbsee> bddebian: who did the original list of dh_iconcache fixes?
[03:55] <kgoetz> lol
[03:56] <bddebian> Hobbsee: Probably dholbach.  It certainly wasn't me :)
[03:56] <Hobbsee> bddebian: right.
[04:02] <kbrooks> Mithrandir: doing this in a package
[04:02] <kbrooks> Mithrandir: pkill is a Bad Idea (tm)
[04:03] <Mithrandir> kbrooks: I think the panel picks it up automatically then?
[04:03] <kgoetz> you could also try loggin out and in again, and i think therse a menu-update tyupe program
[04:03] <kgoetz> Mithrandir: that's what i thought
[04:03] <kbrooks> Mithrandir: hm, ok, ill try
[04:32] <kgoetz> anyone good with perl around?
[04:33] <bddebian> Is anyone good with perl? ;-P
[04:34] <kgoetz> lol. my bad :/
[04:34] <kbrooks> kgoetz: how about asking in #perl ?
[04:35] <kgoetz> kbrooks: this is an ubuntu bug related question, not a random perl enquiry
[04:35] <kbrooks> kgoetz: do tell.
[04:35] <kgoetz> bug 44467 (vrms). i cant follow the code to work out wtf it's doing
[04:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 44467 in vrms "False positive on ttf-gentium" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/44467
[04:36] <kgoetz> someohow it works out if a package is free or non free, but it doesnt have a list of non free packages. i think it might be the package in question is still marked non-free
[04:51] <kgoetz> elkbuntu: stop stalking me :(
[04:51] <elkbuntu> nevah!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:51] <kgoetz> sif!
[04:51] <elkbuntu> only here so i can spy/listen/learn :)
[04:52] <kgoetz> lol. i'm here to pounce on people who want to learn
[05:00] <kgoetz> hehe.
[05:08] <zakame> hi all! :D
[05:59] <bddebian> Any PPC users alive?
[06:00] <freeflying-ibook> bddebian: hi
[06:00] <bddebian> Heya freeflying-ibook
[06:00] <bddebian> freeflying-ibook: Would you mind installing the new xcircuit and seeing if it crashes on startup?
[06:00] <freeflying-ibook> bddebian: what can I do for you?
[06:01] <freeflying-ibook> bddebian: 3.4.21-0ubuntu1?
[06:01] <bddebian> Yep
[06:02] <freeflying-ibook> bddebian: no crash
[06:03] <bddebian> freeflying-ibook: Excellent, thanks!
[06:03] <freeflying-ibook> bddebian: np
[06:08] <kgoetz> night
[06:09] <bddebian> GNight kgoetz
[06:09] <kgoetz> later bddebian. .have fun :)
[06:11] <tuxmaniac> bddebian: Thanks
[06:11] <tuxmaniac> bddebian: Sorry am dead tight!! Am on a business trip actually.. :((
[06:12] <tuxmaniac> bddebian: Wish you a happy journey too :D
[06:12] <bddebian> thx
[08:50] <Spec> changelog's are supposed to be manually edited, yes?
[08:59] <sivang> Spec_: there a tool, dch that helps you edit it but yestm it's generally manually edited
[09:01] <ivoks> dch rulz :)
[09:14] <Spec_> yeap :)
[09:15] <sivang> Spec: dch will create the neccessary entries for you just to fill up
[09:15] <Spec> yeap
[09:15] <Spec> dch -i is what i used
[09:21] <zul> you
[09:21] <zul> doh..hey
[10:23] <crimsun> slomo_: pong
[10:24] <slomo_> crimsun: is there a way to query one alsa soundcard for it's capabilities? i want to know what sampling rates it supports :)
[10:32] <crimsun> slomo_: yes
[10:33] <slomo_> crimsun: how?
[10:34] <crimsun> slomo_: take a look at how jackd does it in drivers/alsa/alsa_driver.c
[10:34] <slomo_> crimsun: hm, a simple shell command would be better ;)
[10:36] <crimsun> erg, well, that would require you open playback and/or capture and inspect its hw_params
[10:39] <crimsun> for instance, ``aplay /dev/zero'', then inspect /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params
[10:50] <Laser_away> crimsun: did you see the new maxima bug info?
[11:23] <crimsun> LaserJock: not yet, I'll look
[11:24] <LaserJock> crimsun: basically it sounds like compiling maxima with a different lisp compiler (cmcul is reported to work) fixes the connection problems
[11:26] <crimsun> LaserJock: ah, excellent. So perhaps gcl can be avoided?
[11:26] <crimsun> (will look in a bit)
[11:36] <crimsun> heh, the usplash 0.2-2 changelog is pretty scathing
[11:36] <tseng> thats keybuk for you
[11:37] <LaserJock> wow, that is something
[11:41] <whiprush> I chuckled also
[11:52] <zul> who is frank?
[11:53] <LaserJock> zul: Frank Schoep on ubuntu-devel I imagine