[12:02] Ack, bpftopcf: command not found?? [12:07] raphink: ping [12:07] pong phanatic [12:07] raphink: do you have a little time? can i msg you? [12:07] sure msg me === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@45.202-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=ryu@p5487DA40.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [i=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@201.160.20.139.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] morning y'all [02:15] hi lifeless, congrats on 0.8 [02:16] danke [02:18] Hi lifeless, tseng [02:18] hi === Mez [i=Mez@195.112.61.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MarkShark [n=mk@64-30-195-34.dsl.linkline.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === andrewski [n=andrewsk@pool-151-197-214-254.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === andrewski [n=andrewsk@pool-151-197-214-254.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:25] bbl === `6og [n=kgoetz@ppp202-110.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-35-13.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-146.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:10] hi everyone === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@59.92.52.229] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kapputu [n=sg47@67.131.231.165] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-123-16.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:46] G'day all [06:49] anyone with an amd64 box and a few minutes to spare ? [06:50] Yagisan: Good morning!!! [06:51] tuxmaniac: G'day. What's up ? [06:51] steven@liquified:~% uname -m [06:51] x86_64 [06:51] Yagisan: ^ [06:51] Yagisan: Got my xcircuit status changed to Fix commited.. :) Thanks to bddebian [06:51] StevenK: could you confirm Bug #44100 for me. Any CJK language will do. [06:51] Malone bug 44100 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org in dapper lacks canadian english spellcheck" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/44100 [06:52] crap wrong number [06:52] Bug #44626 [06:52] Malone bug 44626 in openoffice.org "Can't Input Japanese Text" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/44626 [06:52] tuxmaniac: good to hear [06:53] Yagisan: You'll need to talk me through it, and my Dapper is a chroot. [06:53] My laptop is dapper, but it's i386 [06:55] Whee. This might hurt. Installing Japanese language support along with openoffice is likely to take a while. [06:56] StevenK: hmm. if a chroot this might be difficult [06:56] StevenK: I change sessions with gdm [06:57] StevenK: perhaps it's best to wait for someone with a full dapper amd64 install [06:59] StevenK: basically it is pick japanese session, load OO.o, try to type, and notice you only get english. followed by smack head into table. [07:01] StevenK: The heisenbug I was tracking down yesterday turned out to be a schroedinbug instead. It should never have worked at all. === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:22] Yagisan: And installing ubuntu-desktop in my building chroot might hurt. === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] Actually.... Hobbsee how do you know I'm not a bot :P We have never actually met or spoken :P [07:26] StevenK: quite possible it may do more then hurt [07:26] Kyral: i hear it on good authority, by people who know you :P [07:26] lol [07:26] you mean my GPG Key :P [07:27] Kyral: no, you :P - at LCA and wherever else... [07:27] er, no, whichever one i mean [07:27] UBZ? [07:27] UDU & UBZ [07:27] that's it [07:27] I wasn't at UDU [07:27] ah [07:27] UBZ yes [07:27] UBZ then :P' [07:27] And I have the pictures to prove it :P [07:28] grr - my brain's not supposed to work, after going to bed after 2 am 2 nights ina a row! [07:28] lol === Kyral puts some Bawls in an IV and hooks it up to Hobbsee [07:28] Hobbsee: after a week, you'll get used to it [07:28] heh [07:29] alternatively have kids. you get used to just 1 hour a day [07:29] lol [07:29] I think Hobbsee is a little young for that :P [07:29] eek..no thanks! === Hobbsee isnt particularly interested in having kids :P [07:30] Toldja [07:30] shame [07:30] Yagisan: how old did you think i am, anyway??? === Hobbsee has been asked if she's got kids, before [07:30] Hobbsee: about my age ~24 [07:30] 17 [07:30] :P === Hobbsee snorts [07:30] Yagisan: dream on, hehe :D [07:30] Hobbsee: your older !?! [07:30] Am I right? === Yagisan ducks [07:31] nope [07:31] :P === Hobbsee is 87. [07:31] wait what is that a nope to [07:31] .... [07:31] Hobbsee: I know that isn't true [07:31] :P [07:31] I know you are younger than me [07:31] <<== 20 [07:31] Hobbsee: what year of uni are you ? [07:31] Yagisan: 1st [07:32] Hobbsee: have a year off after year 12 ? [07:32] nope [07:32] 18? [07:32] Hobbsee: you'd be between 18 & 21 then [07:32] turning 18 in july... [07:32] see I was right [07:32] 17 :P === Hobbsee often thinks of her age as 19, friends are 19+, work people are 25+, and i've signed a couple of documents syaing that i'm 18 :P [07:33] lol [07:33] FORGERY!! ;P [07:33] Hobbsee: really ? wow, you don't photograph so well [07:33] Yagisan: haha... [07:33] ....Yagisan [07:33] RUN [07:33] Hobbsee: almost as bad as me [07:33] now :P [07:34] i thought you were never supposed to say that to a woman! === Hobbsee hates cameras [07:34] You aren't [07:34] Kyral: I've decided today is the day to kill myself === Kyral pulls a Katana from nowhere [07:34] Can I help? [07:34] ajmitch: see, here's evidence - you shouldnt take any pictures of me while you're here... [07:34] hehehe [07:35] Kyral: well, I'm doing so well by myself ... [07:35] I have a very bad picture [07:35] of me [07:35] Kyral: never seen yours... [07:35] Lemme dig it out :P [07:36] rereading those last to lines seems well, odd for motu chat [07:36] s/to/two === Yagisan has a dirty mind [07:36] http://clarkson.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2001714&l=782ae&id=21601643 [07:36] ... === Kyral smacks Yagisan [07:36] BTW look for the idiot flashing the V sign ;P === Hobbsee smacks Yagisan as well [07:37] oh sorry [07:37] I used the blade side of the Katana :P [07:37] you really do have a deathwish today, dont you Yagisan! [07:37] more! more! [07:37] hehe fun [07:37] ooh, snow! === Hobbsee is jealous [07:37] hmm [07:37] this gives me an idea === Kyral teleports behind Yagisan and stuffs ice down his pants [07:38] yah that was in Ottawa Canada [07:38] Hobbsee: hi [07:38] hi tuxmaniac [07:39] didja find the pic of me on my cell [07:39] Hobbsee: Where is StevenK !! Did he jump on you today too :) [07:39] tuxmaniac: he's here, i was talking to him earlier. i dont remember if he jumped on me === Yagisan marvels at how Kyral manage to appear in the wall behind him === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] Hobbsee: ? [07:40] is there any fundamental difference between vsprintf and vsnprintf that would cause the first to work, yet the second to only print 7 chars ? [07:40] Kyral: yeah [07:41] i thikn so [07:41] :P [07:41] bad no? :P [07:41] hehe yeah [07:41] I think the caption I put is "Me, being an idiot" or somesuch :P [07:41] oh yes, that one... === Hobbsee is surprised at the phones on the snow... [07:41] lol [07:41] s/on/in [07:41] its ice [07:42] Thats one massive canal that freezes over every winter [07:42] I am happy to say I only beefed it twice === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] <== Loves ice skating === Yagisan hasn't even seen snow [07:44] ..ouch [07:44] I <3 Snow [07:44] <`6og> never seen snow o_0 [07:44] Yah I beefed it when I ran into snow on the ice [07:44] never seen snow ?!? jez [07:44] too warm here [07:44] heh, where is here? [07:45] Aussie I thought? [07:45] Sydney === Hobbsee has seen snow twice before :) [07:45] wait [07:45] cool [07:45] lol [07:45] heya Hobbsee [07:45] hi imbrandon === Yagisan has seen big chunky hail though [07:45] Hobbsee: you should have come to UBZ :P === Hobbsee wonders about a skiing holiday.. [07:45] <`6og> Yagisan: lame excuse [07:45] Kyral: i have no passport [07:45] oh wait it wasn't snowing then.... [07:45] <`6og> your a few hours drive from the snow feilds [07:45] Hobbsee: I have one!! [07:45] `6og: sure, buy me a car [07:45] I'll come visit and bring snow lol [07:45] i found out what that bug is kinda, well atleaste how to reporduce it now just to figure it out ( atleaste enough to report it on launchpad ) === StevenK hasn't seen snow at all. [07:45] Kyral: sure, but they wont let me pass on your picture :P [07:45] <`6og> `6og: sure. i'll drop it off [07:45] heh [07:46] yikes, that's sad. I've never seen a year without seeing snow at least 4 months out of the year [07:46] StevenK: you poor depraved soul [07:46] Hail the size of golf balls, I have though. [07:46] Laser_away: Amen to that! [07:46] hehe [07:47] LJ where are you again? [07:47] currently Reno, NV [07:47] but I grew up in Montana [07:47] Casinos!! [07:47] I'm sorry [07:47] yes, lots of them [07:47] I never go though [07:47] Montana == Nowhere USA :P [07:48] Kyral: yep, and I miss it a lot [07:49] I grew up and go my BA in a town of 4,000 [07:49] ouch [07:49] well, Potsdam is smaller.... [07:49] Potsdam, NY :P [07:50] 9,000 in a county the size of Rhode Island [07:50] Whoa, they got that many people in that tiny spot? === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === `6og blinks. it's strange hearing comparisons between places you have no idea about [07:51] I remember driving through RI once [07:51] `6og: so, when are you dropping that car off? [07:51] "Welcome to Rhode Island" [07:51] minute later [07:51] "Now Leaving Rhode Island" [07:52] `6og: sorry, 9,000 people in ~600 square miles === Yagisan went to a casino once [07:52] but I'm guessing square miles isn't going to help much either ;-) === Yagisan was promptly turned away [07:53] I haven't been into the casinos here more then 5 times in the 4 years I've lived here === Yagisan was looking for an atm [07:54] the only reason I would ever go it for a buffet :-) [07:54] <`6og> Laser_away: fraid not ;) === Hobbsee went inside a casino once...didnt bother doing anything, though [07:55] I went in [07:55] played craps [07:55] and won 160 [07:55] dollars [07:55] nice! [07:55] too much chance for casino stuff... [07:55] yep, that is why it is so addictive [07:55] even card games [07:55] Kyral: yeah, and how much did you lose [07:55] Yagisan: that was NET [07:55] we have gambling addiction treatment programs here [07:55] Yagisan: guess 320 $ [07:55] and yes, i knwo that craps isnt a card game :P [07:56] Yagisan: as in how much I won minus loss === Yagisan plans to play blackjack when he gets his hands on an autistic kid [07:56] we bought our house from a lady who was $70,000 in debt because of gambeling [07:57] hehe [07:57] I see people pushing shopping carts downt he streat because they gambled their cars away [07:57] not pretty === olafura [n=olafura@a058.nemendur.hi.is] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:59] okay [07:59] 02:00 [07:59] BEDTIME! [08:00] yep, cya Kyral [08:00] night Kyral [08:00] heh [08:00] 2am is time to start hacking :P [08:00] You like teh away? === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:00] Hobbsee: not when you need to be up at 08:00 [08:00] and coherent [08:00] <`6og> hehe. night Kyral [08:01] sure it is. see this mroning. [08:01] <`6og> Hobbsee: youth of today :P [08:01] :P [08:01] I need 6 hours of sleep or else my already hard to keep up with speech pattern is even harder to understand :P [08:02] heya Hobbsee wanna help me reporduce this bug and possibly track it down ( wanna make sure its just not me but i dont think so becouse i have tried it on 2 diffrent machines here at home ) [08:02] man, I used to be able to do all nighters in college, but since I got married I just can't do it anymore. To much to do during the day [08:02] anyway [08:02] imbrandon: what bug? [08:02] cat Kyral >> /dev/bed [08:02] for REAL! [08:02] <`6og> hehe [08:02] <`6og> lol Laser_away [08:03] heh i dunno what to call it but if you install ( dont even have to use it ) smbfs , hald take a LONG time to start when booting ( like 2 or 3 minutes ) [08:03] uninstall smbfs everything returns to normal [08:03] ack...i dont want to kill my system by trying that :P [08:03] <`6og> imbrandon: sure it's hald lagging? [08:03] i've got it to do it here at the house 3 times, wannna see if soneone else gets the same resule === Mez [i=Mez@195.112.61.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] `6og: well thats the message on the startup, is "hald starting up ......." eventualy it will but takes forever [08:04] result* [08:05] <`6og> strange. [08:05] btw its on uptodate dapper ( breezy seems unaffected ) [08:05] if that wasent obvious [08:05] heh [08:06] i thought it was a problem with the hal package at first so i did a clean install and updated everyting BUT hal and booted same thing, so i went ahead and updated hal and then removed smbfs ( thats the only thing that was installed other than default kubuntu ) [08:07] and booted smooth [08:07] <`6og> correct me if i'm wrong - hal=hardware abstraction layer? [08:08] so i did the same thing ( installed smbfs , rebooted , uninstalled smbfs ) to make sure that was it, i'm not even sure what logs to look at to give a core dev an idea of whats going on [08:08] `6og: yes [08:08] <`6og> imbrandon: ask in -devel, where to look for stuff [08:08] dont know what hal has to do with it but thats where it freezes on boot every time , when starting hal [08:08] <`6og> niether do i, that's why i checked ;) [08:08] k [08:09] will do ( hopefully someones awake ;) [08:09] <`6og> ;) === Yagisan wonders why the kids only get sick when the doctor is closed [08:20] damm, still once place behind ajmitch [08:22] ? [08:26] tseng: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=45104 === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee curses ndiswrapper [09:02] stupid thing! [09:22] Laser_away: pong (unlikely) === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:31] crimsun: hi, would you mind have a look at the new zhcon, thx [09:32] freeflying: revu/debian/ubuntu (url)? [09:33] crimsun: I just failed build, due to the changes in Makefile, after patched, still can not work [09:33] crimsun: new version can support utf8 [09:33] freeflying: ok, got a url? [09:35] crimsun: http://sourceforge.net/projects/zhcon [09:36] ah ok, upstream [09:36] crimsun: how about include it in dapper? [09:36] freeflying: will look in a few minutes. To include it, you'd need to file an Upstream Version Freeze exception request [09:37] crimsun: after all , rc is coming ,so I don't know weather the UVFe will be approved :) [09:37] freeflying: if it fixes a critical bug, I'd still file a UVFe req [09:38] crimsun: the critical is that old version can not support utf8, heh === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.22] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] so, cjk guy can not input in native under console [09:40] freeflying: but with zhcon, (s)he can? [09:40] new zhcon, that is [09:40] crimsun: sure [09:41] freeflying: ok, that's worth filing a UVFe req [09:42] crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/216 --< change the dir for install zhcon.conf === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:11] morning === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=ryu@p5487F656.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:00] morning === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] hi Toadstool [11:01] hi phanatic [11:05] hey folks [11:05] hi siretart === Yagisan waves hello to Toadstool phanatic and siretart [11:08] hey Yagisan [11:09] hello Yagisan === Yagisan is wondering why vsnprintf only prints 7 chars, even though it says it printed 40. === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh [n=shermann@unaffiliated/sh/x-000000002] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:16] <\sh> moins [11:21] hi \sh === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:23] <\sh> updating pbuilder, preparing clamav merge... [11:26] hi all [11:26] hey phanatic :) [11:27] hello sivang :) [11:27] <\sh> hey sivang :) did I see it right, that you started uploading? ;) [11:27] sivang: i cannot go :( [11:27] phanatic: why no? [11:28] sivang: no sponsorship (which i can understand) [11:28] phanatic: ah I see, sponsership emails already went out? [11:28] sivang: yeah, on friday [11:30] <\sh> sivang: are you attending paris? [11:31] \sh: not sure yet, I did not receive any emails from Jane on friday, so I'll either stay at home, or go for a trip arounde EU and drop by for a couple of days or so. [11:31] ;-) [11:31] <\sh> sivang: hehe :) the latter is better :) [11:32] \sh: are you coming ? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] <\sh> sivang: I'll try visit the people in paris for one or two nights if it's possible... [11:32] w00t - I found the bug :) [11:32] <\sh> sivang: I never applied for sponsorship and actually we have product launch in june [11:32] \sh: I see, good luck then :-) [11:34] <\sh> sivang: but one weekend should do..or at least the beginning of the conf (ubuntu love day ;)) [11:35] \sh: I understood there is not going to be any love day on this no? just hard spec writing :) [11:35] who else is going there? [11:35] <\sh> sivang: every day is ubuntu love day ;) [11:35] this is true :-D [11:40] <\sh> siretart: ping === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-217-078-207-245.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs4.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:56] \sh: pong [11:57] <\sh> siretart: regarding https://launchpad.net/bugs/42568 I found only the fix for /var/run in the actual clamav package in ubuntu.... [11:57] Malone bug 42568 in clamav "Security issue fixed in 0.88.2" [Normal,Confirmed] [12:02] <\sh> siretart: and some rules adjustments :) === erez [n=erez@89-138-5-126.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] \sh: yes? [12:20] siretart: are you going to paris? [12:21] sivang: I don't know. I'm not sponsored, and I have to look how expensive it would be [12:21] siretart: me as well :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh__ [n=shermann@xdsl-81-173-176-228.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] <\sh> hehe...my first sponsored uploads since a couple of months .... === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@pD9E2AA7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] hey [01:17] G'day Tonio_ [01:18] persia: thanks for confirming Bug #44626 [01:18] Malone bug 44626 in openoffice.org "Can't Input Japanese Text" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/44626 [01:19] Yagisan: No worries. That's the type of bug likely to annoy me at some point when I depend on the correct behaviour :) [01:20] Yagisan: Are you familiar with the IM mechanism used in Open Office? I don't know where to even begin investigating that. [01:20] persia: I discovered it when I when to type a fax to my mother-in-law [01:20] persia: not at all :( [01:20] s/when/went [01:21] Yagisan: That's too bad. Did you end up writing it in gedit? [01:21] persia: yep. then pasting it in OO.o for formatting [01:22] Yagisan: Copy & paste works? It's just the imput framework then? [01:22] persia: yeah, Control+C and Shift+Insert work [01:22] persia: input is stuffed. (I'm on dapper) [01:23] persia: you also amd64 ? [01:23] persia: Copy & Paste was stuffed in breezy. Doubt that will ever be fixed [01:23] Yagisan: I just checked, and opening a UTF-8 file seems to work as well. I'll read some changelogs, and see what I can find. I'm also dapper AMD64, but I doubt it's architecture specific, especially as OOo is 32-bit. [01:25] persia: it's preciously because OO.o is 32bit that I think it is arch specific. I doub;t i386 has this issue, as they didn't get the copy & paste one for breezy [01:25] Yagisan: Hmmm... Have to think about that :) [01:27] persia: so, how was ? [01:28] Yagisan: My mother-in-law came to visit. Dinner, etc. For you? [01:32] Yagisan: I found it. OOo only supports IIIMP. Now to find a bridge... [01:33] persia: talked to my mother-in-law on the phone. my daughter gave my wife the gift of sick child on a weekend. [01:39] Yagisan: Blergh. If you really want to use OOo, install iiimgcf. You'll need to switch to iiimf-htt-xbe for Xinput. There don't appear to be any nice applets, etc. I don't want to change my config that much: do you want to investigate more, or shall I just update the bug with my findings to date? [01:43] persia: update the bug for now. I'll look at how much hassle using iiimgcf is later [01:45] ah, staying at the hotel where canonical people stay is rather expansive ...:) [01:45] sivang: yes, and it's probably not cheap to stay somewhere else close [01:46] ajmitch: so it seems, have you also checked? :) [01:46] ajmitch: or are you sponsered for the summit? === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] sivang: no, and no === ajmitch won't be going [01:47] poor ajmitch - paris would be fun [01:47] ajmitch: I see, I guess we both get to spec stuff and help from remote this time :) [01:47] Hobbsee: you going ? [01:47] Hobbsee: sitting in a hotel at the airport for a week? [01:47] sivang: nope === Hobbsee didnt even think she'd be entitled to go [01:48] probably more entitled than I am [01:48] crimsun: ping? [01:48] slomo_: yo :) [01:48] hi sivang :) [01:49] sivang: i've got assignments thru that block of time - and we must be in the uni for them... [01:49] they are pretty selective about who gets a free ride, i only got to udu because ogra bugged mark nonstop [01:50] Hobbsee: why not ? I rocked up to UDU and well, to be honest the only stuff from me has gone to hoary-security [01:50] slomo_: will you be in paris? [01:50] Yagisan: yes, but i have no passport, and it's all the way in paris. [01:50] sivang: at least that's plannd :) [01:50] slomo_: are you being sponsered? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] slomo_: on a side note, you did not upload ekiga and gwget :) has there been any issue with my debdiffs ? [01:52] <\sh> Seveas: is it possible to remove this stupid cloak completly ? i even want to see my hostname then unaffiliated/sh/x-000000002 [01:52] sivang: oh did forget them, sorry :( i'll do it in some minutes [01:52] sivang: and not sure about sponsoring yet [01:53] \sh, poke lilo - I didn't tell him to put an unaffiliated cloak on you [01:54] <\sh> Seveas: k [01:56] slomo_: ah, it's said on the wiki page that sponsership has already been announced. [01:57] err, emailed to relevant people. that is [01:58] slomo_: I should get approved for main then I won't even have to bug you about those as well :) [01:59] sivang: hehe :) will happen faster than you think :P and gwget is in universe so you can upload it yourself anyway [02:03] slomo_: ah, I was sure it was in main according to it's control file, overrides..:-) === sivang off to a meeting [02:03] sivang: ekiga will be uploaded soon :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] hi people [02:29] hi phanatic [02:29] hey Hobbsee === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-165.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] zakame: My apologies, but porting kdrill to make is not something I will complete any time soon. When I have time again, I'll check the bug status, and if it remains as is, I'll take another look. === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3181-ipbf1107marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:55] <\sh> ok...need to do some real life stuff [02:59] siretart: ping [03:09] phanatic: pong [03:10] siretart: regarding the uvfe (bug 44549). is that debdiff enough for you (or somebody else) to upload? [03:10] Malone bug 44549 in gnome-rdp "UVF Exception Request" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/44549 [03:11] slomo_: thank you :) [03:11] sivang: np :) [03:12] phanatic: I haven't looked at it too closely. if it is 'minimal', then I'd say yes [03:12] sivang: for gwget... use -1ubuntu1 and distribution dapper :P i've uploaded it as such for you already [03:12] slomo_: oh, thanks, I did not change anything in the getted source from the archive [03:12] siretart: it's not so minimal, since the source has some changes + several icons were added. so it would be better to upload to revu maybe? [03:12] slomo_: so I guess that's why it appeared to be supposed to in main and had this in the control file === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] phanatic: perhpas [03:16] siretart: ok, the i'll do that [03:16] *then [03:16] Heya gang [03:16] Hi siretart, phanatic [03:17] hi bddebian [03:17] hey bddebian === Bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] hi bddebian [03:19] Heya kgoetz [03:19] :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] bddebian: what do we want to break today? :-) === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-255-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] sivang: :-) I'm probably not allowed, it's Mothers Day ya know :-) [03:22] heheh === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] Morning [03:34] hi Kyral [03:34] hi again Kyral [03:34] lol [03:34] Go to bed Hobbsee :P [03:34] heh [03:34] no! [03:34] lol [03:34] Yes! === Hobbsee stomps her foot [03:35] no! [03:35] Don't make me use Hammerspace! [03:35] hehe === dewd_ [n=dewd@201.29.133.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kgoetz grabs somepopcorn === Kyral pulls a rubber mallet and conks Hobbsee over the head with it to knock her out [03:36] siretart: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2333 === Hobbsee falls to the floor [03:36] nasty. === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-009-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] hehe, i didn't hit you that hard [03:38] Hobbsee: where are youfrom btw? [03:38] looked bad from ehre [03:38] sivang: sydney [03:38] *here [03:38] Hobbsee: ah, cool [03:38] i mean, antarctica :P [03:38] kgoetz: anime rule...uuh forgot lol [03:38] lol [03:39] Hobbsee: yeah, I've heared :p [03:39] damnit lol [03:39] Kyral: [03:39] sivang: i can vouch for it ;) [03:39] If Syndey is Antartica [03:39] then what is Potsdam NY? [03:39] Kyral: far away? [03:40] hehe [03:40] Seeing as I have had to walk to class in -30 F weather (before wind chill) === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] -15C is just nice, though. [03:45] ( Hobbsee, what's -15F?) [03:45] *-30 [03:45] er, i dont remmeber.... [03:46] i have a program that does that for me :P [03:46] hmm, I was wrong, -30F is ~-35C [03:46] lol [03:46] You have: tempF(-30) [03:46] You want: tempC -34.444444 [03:47] that's a tad cold. Not unbearable, but cold. [03:47] hm. "bracing" [03:47] cold enough for me to have pants on instead of shorts === kbrooks [n=kbrooks@unaffiliated/kbrooks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] well, sure. I pass that threshold at about 0C. [03:48] hey [03:48] i have a question [03:48] Mithrandir: hehe === Hobbsee wears jeans almost all the time anyway :P [03:48] WHERE are .desktop files installed to, and how do i refresh the menu? [03:48] the applications menu [03:49] Hobbsee: you should rather wear skirts. Much prettier. :-) [03:49] heh [03:49] WHERE are .desktop files installed to, and how do i refresh the applications menu? [03:49] oooh Mithrandir ;) [03:49] totally impractical though... === kbrooks waits [03:49] kbrooks: wait your turn and don't spam [03:49] waiting... waiting... [03:50] Hobbsee: I wouldn't know. [03:50] hehe [03:50] kgoetz: oh? this channel is sequential? [03:50] kgoetz: triaged? [03:50] kgoetz: or what? [03:51] kbrooks: we are talking about hobbsee's clothing, when that's not interesting it's your turn ;) [03:51] in /usr/share/somewhere i think in answer to your question, but i would have to loko it up [03:51] kgoetz: sequential then, i assume [03:52] heh [03:52] : tfheen@thosu ~ > dpkg -L gedit-common| grep desktop$ [03:52] /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop === Hobbsee doesnt see why anyone would want to talk about her clothing [03:52] Hobbsee: we're not just talking about your, but in general, I think. [03:52] Mithrandir: so how do i refresh the meny? [03:52] oh, fair enough. keep talking :P [03:52] menu* [03:52] kbrooks: pkill gnome-panel ? === Hobbsee is bored. where's dholbach when you want him? === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] heh [03:55] no...wait...who do i want...it might be bddebian that i want... === bddebian runs away [03:55] bddebian: who did the original list of dh_iconcache fixes? [03:55] lol [03:56] Hobbsee: Probably dholbach. It certainly wasn't me :) === Hobbsee grabs the ropes, and ties bddebian to the chat [03:56] bddebian: right. === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-009-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] Mithrandir: doing this in a package [04:02] Mithrandir: pkill is a Bad Idea (tm) [04:03] kbrooks: I think the panel picks it up automatically then? [04:03] you could also try loggin out and in again, and i think therse a menu-update tyupe program [04:03] Mithrandir: that's what i thought [04:03] Mithrandir: hm, ok, ill try === redguy [n=mati@adp6.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@69.60.114.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] anyone good with perl around? [04:33] Is anyone good with perl? ;-P [04:34] lol. my bad :/ === ryu__ [n=ryu@p5487F656.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] kgoetz: how about asking in #perl ? [04:35] kbrooks: this is an ubuntu bug related question, not a random perl enquiry [04:35] kgoetz: do tell. [04:35] bug 44467 (vrms). i cant follow the code to work out wtf it's doing [04:35] Malone bug 44467 in vrms "False positive on ttf-gentium" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/44467 [04:36] someohow it works out if a package is free or non free, but it doesnt have a list of non free packages. i think it might be the package in question is still marked non-free === elkbuntu [n=melissa@210-84-38-189.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:51] elkbuntu: stop stalking me :( [04:51] nevah!!!!!!!!!!!! [04:51] sif! [04:51] only here so i can spy/listen/learn :) [04:52] lol. i'm here to pounce on people who want to learn === bddebian is here to just steal everyones karma ;-) [05:00] hehe. [05:08] hi all! :D === cassidy [n=cassidy@98.112-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d021044.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@98.112-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-087.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@59.92.38.122] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz24 [n=truz24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.145.115] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] Any PPC users alive? [06:00] bddebian: hi [06:00] Heya freeflying-ibook === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:00] freeflying-ibook: Would you mind installing the new xcircuit and seeing if it crashes on startup? [06:00] bddebian: what can I do for you? [06:01] bddebian: 3.4.21-0ubuntu1? [06:01] Yep [06:02] bddebian: no crash === bddebian wonders if he can fit his Ubuntu laptop in with his work laptop for this stupid business trip :-( [06:03] freeflying-ibook: Excellent, thanks! [06:03] bddebian: np [06:08] night [06:09] GNight kgoetz [06:09] later bddebian. .have fun :) === doko [n=doko@201.160.20.136.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] bddebian: Thanks [06:11] bddebian: Sorry am dead tight!! Am on a business trip actually.. :(( [06:12] bddebian: Wish you a happy journey too :D [06:12] thx === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs4.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=ryu@p5487F656.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === olafura [n=olafura@a058.nemendur.hi.is] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-009-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=ryu@p5487F656.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-217-078-207-245.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=spec@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] changelog's are supposed to be manually edited, yes? === shutdownrunner [n=shutdown@nazgul2.kosson.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec_ [n=spec@pool-71-126-130-94.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] Spec_: there a tool, dch that helps you edit it but yestm it's generally manually edited [09:01] dch rulz :) [09:14] yeap :) === Spec_ is now known as Spec [09:15] Spec: dch will create the neccessary entries for you just to fill up [09:15] yeap [09:15] dch -i is what i used === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:21] you [09:21] doh..hey === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.145.131] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@adk173.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz24 [n=truz24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:23] slomo_: pong [10:24] crimsun: is there a way to query one alsa soundcard for it's capabilities? i want to know what sampling rates it supports :) [10:32] slomo_: yes === erez_ [n=erez@89-138-92-1.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] crimsun: how? [10:34] slomo_: take a look at how jackd does it in drivers/alsa/alsa_driver.c [10:34] crimsun: hm, a simple shell command would be better ;) [10:36] erg, well, that would require you open playback and/or capture and inspect its hw_params [10:39] for instance, ``aplay /dev/zero'', then inspect /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params [10:50] crimsun: did you see the new maxima bug info? === shutdownrunner [n=shutdown@nazgul2.kosson.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns02-0276.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@201.160.20.139.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:23] LaserJock: not yet, I'll look [11:24] crimsun: basically it sounds like compiling maxima with a different lisp compiler (cmcul is reported to work) fixes the connection problems [11:26] LaserJock: ah, excellent. So perhaps gcl can be avoided? [11:26] (will look in a bit) [11:36] heh, the usplash 0.2-2 changelog is pretty scathing [11:36] thats keybuk for you === LaserJock runs to go see the scandal [11:37] wow, that is something [11:41] I chuckled also === paniq [n=braniq@port-212-202-184-193.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] who is frank? === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.154.27] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-009-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] zul: Frank Schoep on ubuntu-devel I imagine