[12:00] <Satya> okay; thanks ppl! ; need to reboot bye!
[12:00] <harisund> reboot?
[12:00] <astriskmanish> harisund, yes all the horry changes to breezy
[12:00] <harisund> why on earth would .. ok never mind :)
[12:00] <Jowi> GazzaK: the users are logged in via ssh or by some other means to your server and you want to log them out?
[12:00] <harisund> Manish. Good.. now you see what the 'sed' command did? Anyway, back to the terminal, do 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:01] <GazzaK> well, that woke me up, cheers Jowi :)
[12:01] <astriskmanish> harisund, its working...
[12:01] <nny>    /join #ubuntu+1
[12:02] <nny> heh
[12:02] <samuli> funny thing, that Satya was at least the second guy now coming to ubuntu and saying install cd didn't install X.
[12:02] <harisund> astriskmanish: good to hera that. Once you finis hwith 'sudo apt-get update' .. wait, what was your question in the first place?
[12:02] <harisund> samuli: generally, X would have got instaled but the corect drivers wouldn't have got in. Users will then end up with a blank screen and an assumption that X is not present.
[12:03] <megaman123> trying to configure a file ... and i get an error at C compiler...do i have to install anything for that ???
[12:03] <harisund> megaman123: What error?
[12:03] <samuli> harisund, <Satya> I tried startx
 it sats no file /etc/x11/x
[12:03] <samuli> lol.. x11
[12:03] <harisund> I doubt there i /etc/x11/x
[12:03] <samuli> it's X11
[12:03] <samuli> :)
[12:03] <harisund> x needs to be upper cae
[12:03] <harisund> right.
[12:03] <samuli> yeah, damn.
[12:03] <astriskmanish> harisund, i think after that if any error msg didnt come then just i have to give this command sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop
[12:04] <harisund> Manish, cross your fingers, pray real hard and yes, do that command.
[12:04] <megaman123> checking for C compiler default ouput file name....configure: error: C complier cannot create executable
[12:04] <astriskmanish> harisund, i m doing that same..:)
[12:04] <samuli> harisund, but anyways, he's not the only one who has complained about that.
[12:04] <Babacom> guys ... i'am using gnome-xchat but can't seem to get spelling to work. When looking in 'preferences', there is no language/dictionary to choose from ... any suggestions?
[12:05] <harisund> samuli: hmm.. you are rihgt.. indeed something fishy :)
[12:05] <samuli> and startx shouldn't depend on the directory.
[12:06] <samuli> I had similar problems with debian testing few days back.. It didn't install gnome-desktop-environment for some reason.
[12:06] <samuli> had to apt-get it manually.
[12:07] <harisund> hmm.. I see..
[12:07] <Managu> megaman123: I'm not sure if I'm reading your error correctly, but you might want to make sure you have "build-essentials" installed
[12:07] <megaman123> harisund: any ideas ??
[12:08] <megaman123> Managu: on will try that
[12:09] <simian__> I've been trying all evening to print to my epson RX620 cennected to a windows box
[12:09] <simian__> It's driving me mad
[12:09] <simian__> I can see the printer but it just won't print
[12:09] <Jowi> simian__: the printer recieves the job?
[12:10] <simian__> Jowi: no
[12:10] <Jowi> simian__: are you behind a router?
[12:10] <gringo> anyone can help me resolving this problem: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/715991 <-- i tried to set up xgl
[12:10] <simian__> Jowi: yes
[12:10] <shasbot> is it possible to get more screen resolution options?
[12:11] <Abountu> I hope I didn't do something very bad, ;)  I wanted to try another msn client, I remember a client called dMsn, which is now known as mercury, I downloaded the .dep package and installed it using dpkg -i
[12:11] <Abountu> now it says there is no java runtime
[12:11] <harisund> astriskmanish what happened? Prayers worked?
[12:11] <megaman123> Managu: ya that did it :)) thanks
[12:11] <astriskmanish> harisund, its working my kubuntu desktop is installing
[12:11] <Abountu> which is not true
[12:11] <Managu> megaman123:  cool
[12:11] <Jowi> simian__: so it is safe for you to make sure all software firewalls in windows are disabled/uninstalled :) that can improve alot of windows networking issues
[12:12] <simian__> Jowi: ok i'll disable them for now and see what happens
[12:12] <simian__> Jowi: thanks
[12:12] <Abountu> I can't seem to find uninstall mercury now
[12:12] <Abountu> can anyone help?
[12:13] <astriskmanish> harisund, can i make a cd of all packages which i had downloaded so that in feature if my system crash then i dont have to wait to that ling to get all my packages
[12:14] <burzum> hi
[12:14] <burzum> i try to boot the dapperflight 7 live cd but it doenst start. it stops always at "mounting root file system"
[12:14] <harisund> astriskmanish: That's quite resourceful thinking :) Either you could just download the Kubuntu CD itself online. But I am not sure how you would do what exactly you want to do .. maybe somebody here can help us with using the power of apt to save packages and move them around?
[12:14] <the_mr_bong_show> ok im bored with ubuntu help me
[12:14] <NoUse> burzum have you checked the integrity of the CD?
[12:14] <burzum> yes its ok
[12:15] <samuli> burzum, have you tried to chek.. ok.
[12:15] <NoUse> !ask
[12:15] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[12:15] <ubuntu> burzum: Go to Ubuntu+1
[12:15] <Davros> bored with ubuntu?
[12:15] <burzum> how can i disable the splash? i want to see the kernelmessages while booting
[12:15] <the_mr_bong_show> yes
[12:15] <Abountu> is there a way i can unistall a .dep pakage not installed using apt-get (installed using dpkg)
[12:15] <Jowi> simian__: found a forumpost with a step-by-step setup otherwise: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32190.html and also this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter
[12:15] <Davros> Is that a support issue? ;p
[12:15] <ubuntu> no
[12:15] <samuli> the_mr_bong_show, try something else or aptitude kde?
[12:15] <ubuntu> I ned to change my screenname back
[12:15] <the_mr_bong_show> aptitude kde?
[12:16] <astriskmanish> harisund, what abt for that packages which i have downloaded in ubuntu itself??
[12:16] <samuli> yeah. try that if you like it better than gnome.
[12:16] <lasindi[lappy] > Hi all, I want to install the MPlayer Mozilla plugin. I tried checking it in Synaptic, but it told me I have unresolved dependencies (which I presume includes MPlayer itself), but I can't find them anywhere else. Is it possible to find MPlayer repositories?
[12:16] <samuli> the_mr_bong_show, just sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop (or kde or kde-core) depending on how much you feel like downloading.
[12:16] <iNiku> akkaka: same way as any other .deb, apt-get remove package
[12:16] <akkaka> got dc :( ... so trying to run vdr i get this error "can't access video directoy /var/lib/video.00" ??
[12:17] <iNiku> Abountu: or dpkg --remove package
[12:17] <Jowi> Abountu: apt-get remove packagename works
[12:17] <harisund> astriskmanish: look, all packages tat you have downloaded are in /var/cache/apt/
[12:17] <simian__> Jowi: thanks for the links, one of them i have followed already. i'll try the other one
[12:17] <Tedd|> Does anyone know the program to transfer Linux -> Windows partition?
[12:17] <Tedd|> Isn't it ext2 something
[12:17] <GTroy> help! pages are taking forever to load!!!!
[12:18] <samuli> Tedd|, what do you mean by transferring? changing file system?
[12:18] <Davros> ext2fs?
[12:18] <GTroy> or, not loading at all
[12:18] <Tedd|> ext2fs isn't it
[12:18] <Tedd|> Gtroy: I'm in windows, I want to retrieve my mp3's from my linux partition
[12:18] <akkaka> how can i give access to my user to a folder while not being root ?
[12:18] <Davros> explore2fs
[12:18] <Tedd|> That's the one
[12:18] <astriskmanish> harisund, thanx a lot..(can i have ur email id if u dont mind then)
[12:18] <Tedd|> Thank you Davor
[12:18] <Tedd|> Davey`,
[12:19] <Tedd|> Davros
[12:19] <Davros> :)
[12:19] <bron> does anyone here know how the xorg.conf file gets generated initially when ubuntu is installed?
[12:19] <Managu> akkaka: permissions are a security measure.  If you don't have permission to look at a folder, and you don't own that folder, there shouldn't be any way you can access it
[12:21] <akkaka> so if installed vdr as root and now im running in another user i can not give tat user access to this folder
[12:21] <Abountu> iNiku: that didn't work
[12:21] <Abountu> Jovi: this didn't work neither
[12:22] <aLPHa_LeaK> n8
[12:22] <iNiku> Abountu: why not?
[12:22] <iNiku> Abountu: what's the error?
[12:22] <Jowi> Abountu: then you are not typing in the correct package name
[12:22] <dooglus> bron: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.postinst does it
[12:22] <Abountu> dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[12:23] <iNiku> Abountu: yeah. for package foo.deb, you must say apt-get remove foo
[12:23] <iNiku> not foo.deb
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> Anybody know of a metric-English conversion program?
[12:23] <Managu> akkaka: right
[12:23] <Jowi> Abountu: what did you install? what was the file name?
[12:23] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: google.com can do that
[12:23] <akkaka> so do i reinstall it ??
[12:23] <Abountu> Jowi.. yes I am typing (using the tab completion)
[12:23] <GTroy> I can't get any pages other than google and digg to load....help!!!
[12:23] <Abountu> Jowi: I installed mercury-messenger_1710_S7_i386.deb
[12:23] <Managu> akkaka: well, you could switch to root (e.g. with "sudo") and change the accesses
[12:23] <iNiku> tonyyarusso: I use google... "15 m in ft" or similar
[12:24] <Jowi> Abountu: do this "apt-cache search -n mercury" and see what the *real* package name is
[12:24] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: http://www.google.com/search?q=100+mph+in+km%2Fh for example
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, iNiku: Only when I'm online.
[12:24] <akkaka> ya ..this is what i want...how do i change / give access
[12:24] <iNiku> tonyyarusso: you need an offline converter? hmm
[12:25] <Abountu> I got many output
[12:25] <iNiku> tonyyarusso: what a weird concept, my computers are never offline :)
[12:25] <tonyyarusso> iNiku: Dialup.
[12:25] <Abountu> Jowi: one is mercury-messenger - Mercury Messenger Debian Package version 1710
[12:25] <Abountu> which is what I did install
[12:25] <Jowi> Abountu: "sudo apt-get remove mercury-messenger"
[12:25] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: did you try 'units'?
[12:25] <iNiku> tonyyarusso: sorry, don't know of any conversion tools, although I'm sure there are plenty
[12:25] <Abountu> Jowi: should I say apt-get remove mercury-messenter
[12:25] <tonyyarusso> I suppose as a last resort I could be learning python and throwing something together.
[12:26] <Abountu> Jowi: oh ok , thx
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Looking for that now.
[12:26] <Managu> akkaka: I think you need to descrbe your problem in more detail.  What did you install, and how?  What problems do you get when you try to access it?  What are you trying to accomplish?  Etc.
[12:26] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: it's in dapper's universe.
[12:26] <trip358> help, I just installed ubuntu on my laptop and I cant get my network to work
[12:26] <mendi> good morning everyone
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Looks very promising.  Thanks.
[12:26] <corerunner> good evening
[12:26] <Davros> Morning? What time zone?
[12:26] <goldenratio> O.o
[12:26] <akkaka> i isntalled vdr using root, but it does not run from root..so i switched to another user to run it, but now it can not access its video folder
[12:27] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: "apt-cache search convert units" is how I found it
[12:27] <tonyyarusso> (Silly me - I tried searching for 'metric' rather than 'units')
[12:27] <mendi> i have a problem with pkg_config_path
[12:27] <mendi> anyone can help?
[12:27] <Managu> what is vdr?
[12:27] <dooglus> Video Disk Recorder
[12:28] <akkaka> its video recoder for satellite cards
[12:28] <Managu> where did you install it?
[12:28] <akkaka> on my pc :))
[12:28] <trip358> When i log on I get a message: "could not lookup internet adress for (user)"
[12:28] <mendi> please help me with pkg_config_path?!
[12:28] <Managu> akkaka: errm, something more specific might be handy.  Also, what is the full path to its "video folder"?
[12:28] <dooglus> !justask
[12:28] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[12:29] <Abountu> does any one knows how to use fuser to see which programme is locking which file?
[12:29] <akkaka> its: /var/lib/video.00
[12:29] <BlankMind> Guys, I don't understand anything of linux and I need help, here it goes: How I install programs in Ubuntu? I would like to install XMMS...
[12:29] <dooglus> Abountu: there's a document about that - type "man fuser" to read it
[12:29] <Abountu> ok
[12:30] <dooglus> BlankMind: run synaptic from the 3rd menu
[12:30] <mendi> please help me with pkg_config_path?!
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager.
[12:30] <Managu> akkaka: that's a folder?  If so, you might try "sudo chmod 777 /var/lib/video.00"
[12:30] <dooglus> mendi: ask a question and maybe we can
[12:30] <dooglus> mendi: what kind of help would you like?
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: Search for xmms, check the box by it, and click Apply.
[12:30] <richard> greetings to all
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: (If you can't find something you think you should be there, you may need to enable !universe)
[12:30] <akkaka> thanks :)))
[12:31] <richard> is there anyone here running quake4 in ubuntu ?
[12:31] <dooglus> the !bot is too !stupid to pick up on !keywords in the middle of lines
[12:31] <BlankMind> calm down, this synaptic is a program database?
[12:31] <harisund> dooglus.. it is a bot after all :)
[12:31] <mendi> im installing mysql query browser from source and it is requiring several dependencies. i want to install those dep. but it is giving error: pkg-config can't find glib-2.0 but glib is installed
[12:32] <dooglus> BlankMind: synaptic lists all the packages in the ubuntu repositories and lets you install and uninstall them
[12:32] <PrimoTurbo> what packages do I need for compiling?
[12:32] <HymnToLife> !b-e
[12:32] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[12:32] <dooglus> mendi: install the deps with "sudo apt-get build-dep mysql"
[12:32] <goldenratio> bleh, sudo is everywhere...
[12:33] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: It's what's known as a frontend.  It accesses the package database and gives you a pretty GUI to install stuff from it with.
[12:33] <HymnToLife> !sudo
[12:33] <ubotu> methinks sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:33] <mendi> dooglus: my connection is dial-up about 30kbps that's why i decided to install it from source
[12:33] <harisund>  goldenratio, maybe you htinking it would be good to have 'dosu' for a change?
[12:33] <BlankMind> ok, and there are some programs that are avaliable only in source code, is there an easy way to newbies like me compile and use them?
[12:33] <HymnToLife> !compiling
[12:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[12:33] <mendi> dooglus: i downloaded the source tarballs in a internet cafe :)
[12:33] <HymnToLife> ubotu has it all :D
[12:33] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[12:33] <BlankMind> ok
[12:33] <BlankMind> thank you very much =D
[12:34] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: Not very easy, but certainly possible to learn if you're so inclined.  We have 18,000 things that don't need compiling though, so that will be rare.  :)
[12:34] <dooglus> mendi: you don't have the glib-2.0-dev package for example.  you don't need to build glib-2.0 from source, but you do need to install the -dev version of the package.  that's what the command I suggested will do
[12:34] <goldenratio> can you rebuild every things in ubuntu?
[12:34] <harisund> goldenratio, gentoo style eh?
[12:34] <richard> is there anyone here running quake4 in ubuntu ?
[12:34] <dooglus> goldenratio: no, only things you have the source code for
[12:34] <goldenratio> more than that
[12:34] <HymnToLife> BlankMind> though in most cases you will find someone who built a package for it, google is your friend :)
[12:35] <goldenratio> in a easy way
[12:35] <goldenratio> an
[12:35] <BlankMind> I was going to try ZDoom later... (www.zdoom.org)
[12:36] <octan> howdy all..
[12:36] <mendi> dooglus: do you know how i can change pkg_config path?
[12:36] <dooglus> mendi: you don't need to.  what you need to do is install the dependencies that you're missing.  the various -dev packages.
[12:36] <octan> i have a pvr500 card.. and i was woundering is ther a pkg for the ivtv module and its firmware?
[12:37] <BlankMind> but Ubuntu is compatible what kind of package? I mean, I found some debian and .rpm stuff
[12:37] <dooglus> BlankMind: it's debian based.
[12:37] <HymnToLife> BlankMind> Ubuntu uses DEB, just like Debian
[12:37] <dooglus> BlankMind: but that doesn't mean that you can just install any .deb file and expect it to work - although it might.
[12:37] <BlankMind> so if I get a debian package, I use synaptic to use it?
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: But that doesn't mean you should use a Debian package.
[12:37] <HymnToLife> BlankMind> no, you use dpkg
[12:37] <HymnToLife> !dpkg
[12:37] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[12:38] <mendi> dooglus: i did but it says couldn't stat source files
[12:38] <dooglus> BlankMind: the next version of ubuntu, out in june, comes with a graphical tool for installing .deb files.  until then you do it from the command line
[12:38] <Managu> octan: I just recently dealt with that stuff.  Short story is, no, you need to do most of it from scratch.  That said, the driver website has a pretty thourough howto
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: Debian and Ubuntu use the same format, but don't have what's called 'binary compatibility'.  Meaning, Debian stuff is not guaranteed to work.
[12:38] <HymnToLife> !dpkg is <reply> To install DEB packages, run      sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:38] <ubotu> okay, HymnToLife
[12:38] <BlankMind> ok, a graphic interface would be nice for newbies like me =D
[12:38] <octan> Managu as i tought :\
[12:38] <BlankMind> well, but until now things are working hehe
[12:38] <mendi> dooglus: i already installed mysql
[12:38] <HymnToLife> tonyyarusso> but in most ases it will
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: But, you still can, as many will work.  Always look for an Ubuntu-specific one first though.  (In Dapper, you just double-click the package and it installs)
[12:39] <dooglus> mendi: that isn't relevant.
[12:39] <mendi> dooglus: but this time i wanna install browser for mysql
[12:39] <dooglus> mendi: if you want to build mysql then you will need to have the -dev versions of the libraries it uses
[12:39] <mendi> dooglus: what is irrelevant?
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> HymnToLife: I don't know percentages, so i'm not sure.  Still holds true that it's better to make sure you've looked first though of course.  (But yeah, I've used them on occasion.)
[12:39] <octan> Managu why havent anyone make that a pkg? pvr cards are populare tho
[12:40] <whiter> will there be an equiv of quick user switching on dapper?
[12:40] <dooglus> mendi: you need to add source lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:40] <whiter> or was i mistaken
[12:40] <BlankMind> I installed XMMS, opened it, but it does not plays a MP3 (in fact when I opened it's not working anymore)
[12:40] <whiter> whats it doing black
[12:40] <whiter> blank*
[12:40] <BlankMind> (XMMS is not answering now)
[12:40] <dooglus> mendi: edit the file as root, and make copies of the relevant lines but with 'deb-src' instead of 'deb' at the start.
[12:40] <whiter> oh
[12:40] <HymnToLife> tonyyarusso> sure but if you find only Debian-labeled packages, it's worth trying instead of going through all the compiling process
[12:40] <whiter> blankmind: open terminal and type "ps -A | grep xmms"
[12:40] <HymnToLife> like Skype for ex, has only one DEB file
[12:41] <whiter> then do kill -9 <whatever pid ps returned for xmms>
[12:41] <whiter> then open XMMS and goto the options menu then preferences and change the output plugin to whatever works... ALSA one works for me
[12:41] <HymnToLife> sudo killall xmms    <ill <ork too I think
[12:41] <mendi> dooglus: how can i update the list?
[12:42] <whiter> yea it will hymm
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> HymnToLife: Yeah.
[12:42] <highstakes1> hi
[12:42] <akkaka> bew error while compiling "./configure" : checking for X ... configure error: can't find X includes ?????
[12:42] <akkaka> what are X ??
[12:42] <HymnToLife> !x
[12:42] <ubotu> x is, like, a portable, network-transparent window system.
[12:42] <whiter> why are you compiling X ?
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> HymnToLife: Oh, don't get me started on Skype though...linux version is buggy and that annoys me.
[12:42] <HymnToLife> yeah, I wonder too
[12:42] <HymnToLife> I've heard that compiling X is hell
[12:42] <whiter> yea it is
[12:43] <Managu> octan: the drivers are kernel specific
[12:43] <dooglus> mendi: what do you mean?  edit the file as root, adding lines for 'deb-src' where you see 'deb' lines
[12:43] <octan> Managu, do you think i can use this howto
[12:43] <whiter> akkaka why are you compiling X ?
[12:43] <akkaka> KVDR.. where could i find it ??
[12:43] <octan> http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu
[12:43] <HymnToLife> tonyyarusso> if you say so.. I'm deaf so I pretty much never use it
[12:43] <akkaka> its a gui for VDR
[12:43] <dooglus> mendi: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" will edit the file as root if that's what you're asking
[12:43] <Managu> octan: and I suspect the firmware has abysmal redistribution terms
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> HymnToLife: Ah.
[12:43] <delmar> FYI anyone who is interested... the stock Java JRE that is part of ubuntu (1.4.2) is not compatible with the latest version of Azureus and was the root of all the troubles.  Installing the latest JRE (1.5 update 6) and setting Azureus to use this fixed all the issues I had.
[12:43] <dooglus> mendi: or do you mean you've edited the file but it's made no difference?  if so, run "sudo apt-get update"
[12:44] <akkaka> ubotu: where could i find it "X" ??
[12:44] <ubotu> akkaka: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:44] <delmar> err.. let me correct that...
[12:44] <Managu> octan: Not a clue.  When I tried it 2 weeks ago, their main ftp site (shrpvr? something like that) was down.  This made it a challenge to find the firmware
[12:44] <delmar> FYI anyone who is interested... the stock Java JRE (1.4.2) that is part of ubuntu 5.10 is not compatible with the latest version of Azureus and was the root of all the troubles.  Installing the latest JRE (1.5 update 6) and setting Azureus to use this fixed all the issues I had.
[12:44] <dooglus> delmar: you just said that
[12:44] <delmar> nope
[12:44] <delmar> i didnt
[12:44] <Snake__> How do I know what video driver im using
[12:44] <dooglus> oh i see
[12:44] <delmar> :P
[12:44] <whiter> Snake check xorg.conf
[12:44] <Davros> Hmm....
[12:45] <delmar> dooglus, needed correcting :P
[12:45] <dooglus> you said 2 contradictory things?  how are we supposed to know which one to believe?
[12:45] <Snake__> whiter: ok
[12:45] <BlankMind> it worked, thanks =D
[12:45] <delmar> dooglus, ignore the first one would be the obvious thing to do :P
[12:45] <BlankMind> worked using esound
[12:45] <delmar> so anyway... java on ubuntu 5.10 needs to be fixed in my opinion.
[12:46] <trip345> HI, can anybody help me with a intel wireless problem
[12:46] <Snake__> whiter: great thanks
[12:46] <Managu> delmar: no real surprise.  GCJ/libgcj are constantly in catch-up mode.  Besides, I bet azarus uses swing, and so far as I've heard, gcj still doesn't have swing support
[12:46] <Kr0ntab> back
[12:46] <Kr0ntab> wut up.
[12:47] <delmar> Managu, ok. im no programmer so i dunno what "swing" is or does... but torrents wouldnt connect properly or start and lots of wierdness... all good now tho
[12:47] <megaman123> hey thanks for the link :)) the http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/?q=X+includes
[12:47] <dooglus> delmar: I'm running java version "1.4.2-02" with Azureus 2.4.0.2 and it's working just fine.  what problems were you having?
[12:47] <delmar> dooglus, none anymore.
[12:47] <dooglus> *were*
[12:48] <delmar> dooglus, as i say.. start it up.. set a torrent.. and it wouldnt start..mostly red face.. occasionally changes to blue.. and rarely changes to green but then goes red again within seconds.. logs showed many connection attempts but all failing "select registration" were things mentioned... all kinds of crap.
[12:48] <Skwid_> is it possible to have a split window in nautilus ?
[12:49] <trip345> I just installed ubuntu, and the wireless doesnt work. And I'm getting an error about the hostname not being found
[12:49] <delmar> dooglus, forced Az to use the new and latest JRE I downloaded.. and everything works perfectly.. it even popped up wanting to update azplugins when i started it.. and it started much faster.. neither of which it was doing before
[12:50] <anstei> delmar: looks more like a connection problem than a java problem
[12:50] <anstei> ah well, maybe i should the stuff said before.
[12:51] <delmar> anstei, obviously not... regular "bittorrent" application worked fine.. and switching to the latest java.. works fine.. torrents start ang go green within seconds.
[12:51] <dooglus> delmar: odd that I'm not having those problems.  occasionally all peers will stop uploading and downloading at once, and start up again a few seconds later, but other than that it's fine
[12:51] <delmar> dooglus, when u do "java --version" what do u get?
[12:51] <Remy> hey guys, I'm having issues with update...
[12:51] <dooglus> delmar: some kind of error message.
[12:51] <Skwid_> is it possible to have a split window in nautilus ?
[12:51] <Remy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:51] <Remy>  /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[12:51] <Remy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:51] <delmar> dooglus, really?
[12:51] <anstei> i just read what you said before. i agree it sounds rather strange.
[12:51] <delmar> dooglus, :P
[12:51] <dooglus> delmar: yes.  I'll paste it
[12:51] <delmar> dooglus, and i know whay
[12:51] <Remy> I get that after running sudo apt-get install -f
[12:51] <delmar> why
[12:51] <dooglus> (dapper) chris@chrislap:~/programs/emacs$ java --version
[12:51] <dooglus> Unrecognized option: --version
[12:51] <dooglus> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[12:51] <Remy> which I was told to run after the update manager exited with error status (1)
[12:51] <Remy> any ideas ?
[12:52] <dooglus> delmar: the option should be '-version'
[12:52] <samuli> it's with one -
[12:52] <delmar> dooglus, nope. under ubuntu 5.10 latest java .. it uses --version not -version. under later non-stock versions its -version
[12:52] <dooglus> uh huh
[12:53] <delmar> dooglus, so .. "java -version" then...
[12:53] <dooglus> (dapper) chris@chrislap:~/programs/emacs$ java -version
[12:53] <dooglus> java version "1.4.2-02"
[12:53] <dooglus> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
[12:53] <delmar> dooglus, uh huh
[12:53] <delmar> dooglus, and where did u get that from?
[12:53] <dooglus> is that the one you were having problems with?
[12:53] <dooglus> delmar: I guess it's package 'j2re1.4'
[12:53] <delmar> dooglus, nope. my ubuntu 5.10 system is fully up to date and i dont have that version installed...its 1.4.2
[12:54] <dooglus> delmar: does yours claim to be 'blackdown' like mine does?
[12:54] <dooglus> delmar: see the end of the last line I pasted?
[12:54] <odat> anyone able to send me a file so i can see if my dcc is working
[12:54] <delmar> dooglus, java version "1.4.2"
[12:54] <delmar> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[12:55] <odat> anyone able to send me a file so i can see if my dcc is working
[12:55] <dooglus> delmar: try package 'j2re1.4' then - do you have that installed?
[12:55] <delmar> dooglus, i dont think i do no.
 how did you install the firmaware? did you use the /lib/firmware as the dir?
[12:56] <delmar> dooglus, i will remember that if i have issues again. rather not risk breaking stuff when nothing is broke anymore :P
[12:56] <delmar> dooglus, Az recommends jre 1.5 or better anyway.
[12:56] <dooglus> delmar: I guess I should upgrade to 1.5 anyway.  where did you find it?  did you go the java-package route?
[12:57] <delmar> So.. the real story is... java version 1.4.2 gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) blah blah.. is not going to work for Azureus
[12:57] <bron> does anyone know if it is possible to run dpkg-reconfigure and have it forget/ignore previous answers stored in the debconf database?
[12:57] <joedj> the RestrictedFormats wiki page has good instructions on turning the java packages (JRE and/or SDK) into .deb packages
[12:57] <delmar> dooglus, manual download and install into /usr/java/ for now
[12:57] <joedj> the Sun ones, that is
[12:57] <dooglus> delmar: ok.  that's a bit messy, but hey, if it works...
[12:58] <dooglus> delmar: I've used the java-package package before, as joedj suggests
[12:58] <delmar> dooglus, then edited the azureus startup script with the details.. started it and i was amaized at how much faster it seemed to load.. then it popped up wanting to run an update too which it never did before...
[12:59] <delmar> dooglus, well all u are doing is unpacking some filez, just like Azureus. could put it in like... /home/chrisp/apps/jre and point Az to that
[12:59] <dooglus> is there any way of finding a list of all the packages which provide /usr/bin/java (it's a symlink to /etc/alternatives)
[01:00] <dooglus> delmar: I guess, except you don't unpack the files, you run a binary from Sun, don't you?
[01:00] <iNiku> dooglus: update-alternatives --display /usr/bin/java
[01:00] <Managu> octan: errm, I'm running the Dapper beta, and it seems to me that they totally did the hotplug subsystem for Dapper.  The upshot is that the location I put the stuff will probably be different than where you put it
[01:00] <dooglus> iNiku: will that list packages that I didn't install yet?
[01:00] <delmar> dooglus, yeah but its just a self-extracting file with a license agreement :P
[01:00] <iNiku> dooglus: no, just the ones that are installed
[01:00] <Managu> octan: ... totally "redid" the hotplug system ...
[01:00] <octan> Managu im running dapper to
[01:00] <dooglus> iNiku: it tells me "No alternatives for /usr/bin/java."
[01:00] <delmar> dooglus, it doesn't do anything else.. just unpacks the files where u run the .bin from
[01:01] <iNiku> okay.
[01:01] <delmar> dooglus, so the new install is not pathed...
[01:01] <dooglus> iNiku: I guess you mean "update-alternatives --display java", but I was hoping to discover new packages which provide java - packages I didn't install yet.
[01:01] <delmar> dooglus, so your ubuntu java env. will be safe
[01:01] <ramza3__> general question; when you have a package where is a good place to learn how to set it up Ubuntu wiki?  For example I am trying to setup bugzilla with apt-get
[01:01] <Managu> octan: I put the firmware in /lib/firmware, aye
[01:01] <octan> :)
[01:02] <dooglus> delmar: OK, I see.
[01:02] <needlez> does anyone know how to install XMMS?
[01:02] <imperfect-> Anyone know if it's possible to force a intel board to activate it's onbaord video even if you have a PCI Express card in the system?
[01:02] <dooglus> needlez: run a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[01:03] <Kr0ntab> needlez, ITS INSTALLED BY DEFAULT...
[01:03] <Kr0ntab> OOPS
[01:03] <Kr0ntab> SORRY FOR SHOUTING
[01:03] <Kr0ntab> frick
[01:03] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: it isn't
[01:03] <Kr0ntab> yike
[01:03] <needlez> thanks :)
[01:03] <Sandma> afternoon all....newbie here...
[01:04] <Sandma> just got a cd of Ubuntu 5.10
[01:04] <Morg> If I want to make additions to the Apache config, what file should I add them to?
[01:05] <Kr0ntab> yeah i guess its not... I guess I just usually automatically install it
[01:05] <corerunner> welcome to the family
[01:06] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: did you try beep-media-player
[01:06] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: it's very similar, I think it's based on the xmms code
[01:06] <Kr0ntab> hmm.. haven't
[01:06] <rest> hi can i change the start-up screen ? changing logo or only console displayed ?
[01:06] <pnookster> hullo, I'm trying to get dhcp3 working on my laptop. my setup is like this: wlan0 dhcp to internet, eth0 connected to switch, desktop connected to switch
[01:06] <samuli> Sandma, good for you :)
[01:07] <Sandma> try this again...afternoon all
[01:07] <Sandma> its suppose to be Sanddman...but thats ok
[01:07] <pnookster> what should I set my interfaces file to for eth0, since it's static? like, for the gateway
[01:07] <samuli> hehe.
[01:07] <Sandma> newbie here...just got ubuntu 5.10
[01:07] <Abountu> to install java sdk on ubuntu, I downloaded the .bin installer from sun, and chmod +x and I'm going to sudo java_ee_sdk-5-linux.bin   .... is this the write way to do it? shouldn't I use apt-get or synaptic or similar stuff?
[01:07] <samuli> soop__, you installed it yey?
[01:07] <Sandma> but can not install either the live ver: or the install
[01:07] <dooglus> Sandma: you can type "/nick Sandman" to change it - but maybe someone already has that name
[01:07] <samuli> Sandma, how come?
[01:07] <Kr0ntab> dooglus, name sounds familiar.  checking it out...  is that what ya use?
[01:08] <dooglus> Sandma: the live version of 5.10 isn't installable.
[01:08] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: I generally use mplayer.  I don't need a gui to listen to music
[01:08] <Sandma> I know that,,but both give me the same error message...(crc)
[01:08] <Nullified> Heya guys, Anyone here used Easyubuntu?
[01:08] <samuli> hmm.. that's a problem with your cd then.
[01:08] <pnookster> picard for organizing music, rhythmbox for listening <3
[01:08] <Sandma> don't say that...
[01:08] <Kr0ntab> yeah it looks a lot like xmms...  prefs are a lot cleaner looking...
[01:09] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: I think it works with xmms skins
[01:09] <Sandma> I could not install Suse 9.2 or 10.0 either...
[01:09] <Kr0ntab> I use mpg123-oss or amp for console.. mplayer works fine too.
[01:09] <pnookster> eh, i have 28gigs of mp3s so I need something to organize playlists ;)
[01:09] <dooglus> Sandma: did you burn it yourself?
[01:09] <Sandma> do you know what    (crc) stands for
[01:09] <Sandma> no sent to me..
[01:10] <Nullified> !easyubuntu
[01:10] <pnookster> is your cd drive cable seated firmly with power?
[01:10] <imperfect-> rhymnbox is good
[01:10] <dooglus> Sandma: it stands for Cyclic Redundancy Check, but that's not important right now.
[01:10] <Sandma> yes
[01:10] <dooglus> Sandma: it's basically a checksum
[01:10] <Abountu> is it safe to instal java sdk as I said above?
[01:10] <kbrooks> Nullified: i'm a dev. what's up?
[01:10] <pnookster> rhythm box is good for just listening to stuff, but for organizing things picard is awesome
[01:10] <Sandma> but would it make a diff if I was using my dvd writer??
[01:10] <BlankMind> I want to modify grub's menu.lst but it's on "read-only" mode and i don't know how to take it off! :p
[01:10] <dooglus> Sandma: the physical CD was mailed to you?  or the .iso files?
[01:10] <byron> I am trying to install quake and the only way I can find to get it is a ".run" file, how do you get those to work or infact download them
[01:10] <anstei> BlankMind: edit it as root with "sudo"
[01:11] <Sandma> physical cd
[01:11] <BlankMind> how i make that anstei?
[01:11] <Sandma> both an install cd and a live cd
[01:11] <anstei> BlankMind: how do you edit the file?
[01:11] <megaman111> compile error:  Qt...configure: error: Qt (>=Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found. ??? i installed the libqt3..but still not working??
[01:11] <BlankMind> i go in computer and find it (i would tell u the names but my ubuntu is in portuguese)
[01:12] <byron> anyone know how to get ".run" files working?
[01:12] <gymsmoke> if i add an entry to /etc/network/interfaces , do i need to run /etc/init.d/networking restart for that entry to take effect ?
[01:12] <dooglus> Sandma: I guess it could be a problem with your CD drive; I haven't tried booting from ubuntu disks for a long time now, so I forget how it goes.
[01:12] <anstei> BlankMind: what editor do you use? gedit?
[01:12] <pnookster> what should I set my eth0 interface to in /etc/network/interfaces if that's the nic other computers will be connecting to for dhcp?
[01:12] <Kr0ntab> dooglus, beep actually uses gnomes file manager calls... and font rendering is clean.  nice xmms replacement.  thanks mate.
[01:12] <Nullified> kbrooks, Ive asked easyubuntu to install the realplayher addition and its asking for where the file is located
[01:12] <Mez> please excuse me if I offend you tonight - I'm slightly drunk
[01:12] <dooglus> megaman111: you need the -dev version of the libraries.
[01:12] <BlankMind> anstei yes gedit
[01:12] <kbrooks> Nullified: uh?
[01:12] <Nullified> kbrooks, one second
[01:12] <kbrooks> Nullified: that's not EU
[01:12] <Sandma> well I'll try the cd drive bbl
[01:12] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: you're welcome.
[01:12] <kbrooks> Nullified: EU doesnt ask these type of questions
[01:13] <byron> I am trying to install quake and the only way I can find to get it is a ".run" file, how do you get those to work or infact download them
[01:13] <megaman111> dooglus: i did install that
[01:13] <byron> can someone help?
[01:13] <anstei> BlankMind: then go applications -> run program ( i think it's in system or something like that) and type "gksu gedit", enter your password and open the file from there
[01:13] <Abountu> is installing java sdk without apt-get safe to do?
[01:13] <kbrooks> byron: download as normal
[01:13] <Abountu> please anyone answer me!
[01:13] <kbrooks> Abountu: yes
[01:13] <byron> how do you download as normal?
[01:13] <bon_> i got a serisour problem with kde it restsrts back to the login when kde just starts i have gnome and it works fine http://pastebin.com/716079
[01:13] <Nullified> kbrooks, It says "Real Player has been downloaded to where" , and im not sure where its been downloaded to
[01:14] <kbrooks> Abountu: EU _DOES NOT_ do that
[01:14] <Sandma> thanks for that input...I changed to the cd drive, not its installing...bbl,,,thanks again
[01:14] <bon_> it say something about comsite manger
[01:14] <kbrooks> Abountu: show a screenshot
[01:14] <gymsmoke> if i add an entry to /etc/network/interfaces , do i need to run /etc/init.d/networking restart for that entry to take effect ?
[01:14] <pnookster> gymsmoke: you could just sudo ifdown [interface] 
[01:14] <pnookster> then sudo ifup [interface] 
[01:14] <Abountu> hbrooks: thx, what do you mean "EU  DOES NOT DO that"?
[01:14] <mfv> hello all.  can Ubuntu LiveCD be customized at all like Morphix?
[01:15] <jikbag> how much HD space does a basic GUI install take?
[01:15] <kbrooks> Abountu: oops
[01:15] <BlankMind> anstei it says i'm using the wrong password, but i'm using the admin password I have configurated! :p
[01:15] <bon_> this is my xorg.conf file http://pastebin.com/716100
[01:15] <gymsmoke> pnookster: thanks
[01:15] <kbrooks> Nullified:
[01:15] <Wikipedia-Gast60> nullified
[01:15] <anstei> BlankMind: try using the password for the user you are using currently
[01:15] <pnookster> jikbag: depends on if you're running blackbox, or fvmw, or fluxbox, or gnome..
[01:15] <Wikipedia-Gast60> currently
[01:15] <Wikipedia-Gast60> fluxbox
[01:15] <Nullified> kbrooks, You want to see a screenshot?
[01:15] <kbrooks> Abountu: show a screenshot of the realplayer screen
[01:15] <gymsmoke> pnookster: i think depending on how you configure your net, you could use an internal ip address for that card where other boxes connect
[01:15] <kbrooks> errr
[01:15] <Wikipedia-Gast60> realplayer
[01:15] <kbrooks> Nullified: show a screenshot of the realplayer screen
[01:15] <Wikipedia-Gast60> nullified
[01:16] <jikbag> how much HD space does a basic GUI (Gnome) install take?
[01:16] <pnookster> gymsmoke: *nod* the private network is subnet 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 - but do i need to set a gateway option for that nic?
[01:16] <Wikipedia-Gast60> insta
[01:16] <Wikipedia-Gast60> install
[01:16] <BlankMind> anstei, It has only a user (me), and it's asking root password, i'm typing the only password I have configurated and it does not work... know why?
[01:16] <kbrooks> Wikipedia-Gast60: STOP IT
[01:16] <bon_> i got a serisour problem with kde it restsrts back to the login when kde just starts i have gnome and it works fine http://pastebin.com/716079
[01:16] <gnomefreak> dont have to
[01:16] <pnookster> jikbag: I'm using a 6gb hard drive in my laptop, have room for about 3 gigs of user files.. i've got a toooon of junk on here though, need to clean it up
[01:16] <Abountu> hbrooks: I'm not doing anything related to realplayer
[01:16] <kbrooks> Wikipedia-Gast60: you are annoying
[01:16] <bluelotus> How do I take a screen shot with a drop-down box open?
[01:17] <kbrooks> Abountu: it was a typing error
[01:17] <anstei> BlankMind: uh, now. you can try to type "sudo gedit" in a terminal, that should work, too.
[01:17] <Abountu> kbrooks: no prob
[01:17] <jikbag> pnookster: thnx!
[01:17] <Nullified> kbrooks, Its http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~bullet
[01:17] <pnookster> bluelotus: use gimp's screenshot util with a delay, i suppose
[01:17] <bluelotus> Thankyou.
[01:17] <pnookster> im sure there are easier ways, but that's how I do it. eheh.
[01:17] <Nullified> pnookster, Press printscreen?
[01:17] <gymsmoke> pnookster: i think tou do need the gateway, yes
[01:18] <pnookster> what should I set it for?
[01:18] <BlankMind> anstei, yes it worked, thanks. Just a question, what is that "sudo"? what does it make?
[01:18] <pnookster> Nullified: I wasn't sure if that worked in nix or not! =)
[01:18] <bluelotus> pnookster: that worked perfectly. Thanks again.
[01:18] <pnookster> np.
[01:18] <anstei> BlankMind: it "does" something as a "su", which stands for superuser = root
[01:18] <bluelotus> Nullified: that works but it closes your dropdown box
[01:18] <anstei> BlankMind: so it executes the given command with root privileges
[01:19] <BlankMind> anstei hum... is that a mode to let it in eternal sudo mode? :p
[01:19] <ompaul> !sudo
[01:19] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:19] <snowfaked> blah, can't understand why firefox lags more in ubuntu than in windows
[01:20] <snowfaked> when switching tabs it's like click, laglaglag, tab opens
[01:20] <dooglus> anstei: "su" stands for "substitute user"
[01:20] <pnookster> On my desktop it's suuuuper faster
[01:20] <pnookster> but on my laptop ..
[01:20] <pnookster> well
[01:20] <pnookster> i've never had windows on my laptop
[01:20] <kbrooks> Nullified: well
[01:20] <snowfaked> some optimization i missed?
[01:20] <pnookster> :>
[01:20] <jikbag> snowfaked: what do you mean it lags?
[01:20] <BlankMind> k, thank you guys
[01:20] <jikbag> snowfaked: does it start slow or load pages slow or everything?
[01:20] <snowfaked> jikbag: like it takes second to switch between tabs
[01:20] <Nullified> kbrooks, Forgive me for i know NOTHING
[01:20] <pnookster> but everything runs slow on my laptop :< need to double the RAM.. 128mb is sad ;-;
[01:21] <gnomefreak> Nullified: you atleast knew where to come for help
[01:21] <[Spooky] > a friend of mine have locked his box for typing the wrong pass to many times... can he reset it or he have to re-install ubuntu ?
[01:21] <jikbag> snowfaked: did you install from apt-get or by hand?
[01:21] <ompaul> pnookster, install xfce it will be faster, not quite the same but you can leave gnome in place and run gnomes stuff only when you have to
[01:21] <RandolphCarter> [Spooky] : ctl+alt+backspace?
[01:21] <kbrooks> Nullified: we fixed that
[01:21] <snowfaked> jikbag: apt-get
[01:21] <pnookster> ompaul: yeah, i have it. I don't particularly like it. I use fluxbox :)
[01:21] <snowfaked> i think it should work with 1.7GHz p-m with 1GB without any lagging ;)
[01:21] <snowfaked> 1GB of ram
[01:22] <themaan> has anyone tried warcraft frozen throne on crossover and know if it works, the site says its not suported
[01:22] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: i think its more of ff than your system
[01:22] <jikbag> snowfaked: mebbe remove the apt-get version and install the latest from mozilla by hand
[01:22] <[Spooky] > RandolphCarter: like i said he cant login...
[01:22] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: the ubuntu version of ff is slower than mozillas version (by a little bit)
[01:22] <RandolphCarter> [Spooky] : he's at a GDM Login screen right?
[01:23] <jikbag> snowfaked: does everything lag a bit or just ff?
[01:23] <Nullified> kbrooks, I just need to get a new version of easy ubuntu?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: i would use the wiki to install it
[01:23] <snowfaked> gnomefreak: this is more than little bit, as it is already annoying. fees like using win2k on my older 1.3 celeron with 256MB of ram :)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> !ff
[01:23] <ubotu> gnomefreak: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:23] <moulty> gi
[01:23] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: are you using a laptop?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: yes i know
[01:23] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[01:23] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:23] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: yep
[01:23] <whiter> im using firefox on 733mhz
[01:23] <themaan> anyone know any good windows emulators that warcraft works well on and are easy to set up
[01:23] <moulty> hi*
[01:23] <whiter> and it works fast enough
[01:24] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: do you have 'noapic nolapic' in your grub config?
[01:24] <kbrooks> Nullified: get this. http://www.robotgeek.org/eu/easyubuntu-3.0.tar.gz extract & run ./launchEU.sh in easyubuntu directory
[01:24] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: nope
[01:24] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: I've seen so many laptops where that fixes lagging :)
[01:24] <Pinewheel> Hi. I have a problem while trying to log into Gnome, where I get a message that says my session has lasted under 10 seconds, and then it brings me back to the login scree.
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: do 'sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> themaan,  you mean World of Warcraft? or Warcraft 1/2/3/4?
[01:25] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: that doesn't affect any powersavingthingies?
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: nope
[01:25] <Nullified> kbrooks, Thanks
[01:25] <moulty> Q) I've just installed ubuntu onto a friends pc, he likes it but needs grub to boot to windows by default. how can this be done? thx
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: just bypasses some not standard APICs
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: edit the file, search for 'kopt=' and add 'noapic nolapic' to the end of the line
[01:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell moulty about grub
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> moulty,  trivial.. edit the  grub config file and set the default= line to the right #
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> (it's the single commented line starting with kopt=)
[01:26] <gnosticapex> question: "Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied)" "unable to lock the list directory" -how do I fix this?
[01:26] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: can't i append them after the kernel line?
[01:26] <Pinewheel> Hi. I have a problem while trying to log into Gnome, where I get a message that says my session has lasted under 10 seconds, and then it brings me back to the login screen. Does anyone have any idea as to how I can fix this?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> its amazing the amount of info in that grub config file.
[01:26] <gnomefreak> moulty: your pm also a really good place is help.ubuntu.com it has a section just for that in tips and tricks
[01:26] <megaman111> how can i find a folder .. like search ??
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: you can, but it'll be overwritten the next time apt installs a kernel
[01:26] <gymsmoke> besides adding the entries in /etc/network/interfaces, is there something else i need to get an additional ip address to be recognized ?
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> put it on kopt, then 'sudo update-grub'
[01:26] <gnomefreak> megaman111: gnome?
[01:26] <moulty> thx everyone
[01:26] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: ok, i'll just test it first and then add it to kopt
[01:26] <megaman111> ya
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: ahh, if you know how to do that, no point in me doing it step-by-step :P
[01:27] <gnomefreak> megaman111: places>seach for files
[01:27] <jikbag> megaman111: from bash type updatedb, then type locate <nameoffileyouarelookingfor>
[01:27] <gnomefreak> s/seach/search
[01:27] <mfv> thanks tonyyarusso
[01:27] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: yep, no need. thanks  for the tip i'll try it right away
[01:27] <gnosticapex> question: "Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied)" "unable to lock the list directory" -how do I fix this?
[01:27] <Pinewheel> Hi. I have a problem while trying to log into Gnome, where I get a message that says my session has lasted under 10 seconds, and then it brings me back to the login screen. Does anyone have any idea as to how I can fix this?
[01:27] <megaman111> :))) been looking for a while ..din't catch it ...sorry and thanks :)
[01:27] <gnomefreak> gnosticapex: use sudo
[01:28] <themaan> anyone know any good windows emulators that warcraft 3 frozen throne works well on and are easy to set up
[01:28] <themaan> warcraft 3 frozen throne
[01:28] <gnomefreak> themaan: wine?
[01:28] <Pinewheel> themaan: Cedega?
[01:28] <gymsmoke> i added a new ip address in /etc/network/interfaces, and ran /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart, but the ip address doesn't show up in netstat -pant
[01:28] <themaan> which one simpler to set up
[01:28] <themaan> I tried wine
[01:28] <themaan> and screwed up real bad
[01:28] <gnomefreak> wine is free lol
[01:28] <gnomefreak> !wow
[01:28] <ubotu> To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[01:28] <Pinewheel> themaan: WineX?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> Pinewheel: winex is cedega
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> WineX became Cedega. :P
[01:29] <Pinewheel> Isn't WineX just Cedega from CVS?
[01:29] <themaan> is it free?
[01:29] <Kyral> yah
[01:29] <Kyral> to both
[01:29] <gnomefreak> themaan: no its not
[01:29] <gnomefreak> its 15 usd
[01:29] <gnomefreak> give or take a hundred ;)
[01:29] <Pinewheel> You can get WineX from CVS for free
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> World Of Warcraft can be a Real real real pain in the *$*##@ under Cedega as well.
[01:29] <Pinewheel> I have a problem while trying to log into Gnome, where I get a message that says my session has lasted under 10 seconds, and then it brings me back to the login screen. Does anyone have any idea as to how I can fix this?
[01:30] <ompaul> !wow
[01:30] <ubotu> To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[01:30] <themaan> how do you build wine from source
[01:30] <themaan> and how long does it take
[01:30] <gnomefreak> themaan: it tells you on one of those pages
[01:30] <ompaul> Pinewheel, do you know how to get into a terminal - without logging into Gnome?
[01:30] <samuli> awesometaylor, no they're not out yet.
[01:30] <gnomefreak> it would be the second one by the looks of it
[01:30] <gymsmoke> are the log entries for networking in syslog ?
[01:30] <themaan> hmm any opinions
[01:30] <samuli> awesometaylor, I tried to make my own dvd from iso
[01:30] <themaan> which one I should use
[01:30] <gnosticapex> when typing "sudo tee -a /etc/modules" i lose my command line and all my future commands just repeat a line below where I type em in, should I just restart? :o
[01:31] <Skwid_> wow
[01:31] <samuli> awesometaylor, but it didn't work :P
[01:31] <ompaul> Pinewheel, - asking you again - do you know how to get into a terminal - without logging into Gnome?
[01:31] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Alt+F1-F7?
[01:31] <ompaul> yeap
[01:31] <gnomefreak> themaan: i havent looked over that page in a while but should be fairly straight foward
[01:32] <themaan> so I shoudl use wine?
[01:32] <dooglus> Pinewheel: if you're looking at the gdm login screen you'll need to hold control and alt together when hitting F1-F6 I think
[01:32] <gymsmoke> i added a new ip address in /etc/network/interfaces, and ran /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart, but the ip address doesn't show up in netstat -pant
[01:32] <themaan> would it be possible to get a free server working on wine?
[01:32] <megaman111> is there a problem if i want to switch kde from gnome ??
[01:32] <gnomefreak> themaan: yes thats my opinion but im not that much of a gamer or wine person
[01:32] <ompaul> Pinewheel, okay, so log into one of those as yourself and delete this file:  .ICEauthority with the command >> sudo rm .ICEauthority<< log out return to gdm Alt-F7  and log in
[01:32] <themaan> I might be too lazy to mark up my account
[01:32] <Pinewheel> dooglus: I knw. Thanks, though
[01:32] <delmar> Im trying to get ubuntu to detect my scanner but im not having much luck. surely i should be able to see something listed in /proc/bus/usb/devices or something?  it's a Microtek 3800.  reading things online there is reference to a scanner kernel module but i dont seem to have it... whats the story with getting scanners to work on here anyone?
[01:32] <Pinewheel> Thanks ompaul
[01:33] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Could you explain to me why this happens?
[01:33] <ompaul> delmar, have you installed sane
[01:33] <delmar> ompaul, yep
[01:33] <delmar> ompaul, no scanners found etc.
[01:34] <delmar> ompaul, "no devices available"
[01:34] <ompaul> Pinewheel, depends - but mostly it is something silly like a bad close of Gnome in terms of shutdown
[01:34] <Pinewheel> Ah. That makes sense.
[01:34] <CokeNCode> hey guys, can anyone help me out here, i'm trying to get a gamepad installed
[01:34] <Pinewheel> I had Cedega running, which crashed and brought down X
[01:34] <CokeNCode> it connects to the joystick port
[01:34] <Pinewheel> *froze
[01:34] <CokeNCode> not usb
[01:34] <Pinewheel> Meh. Thanks.
[01:34] <ompaul> delmar, all the silly questions, has it power and is it plugged in etc
[01:34] <delmar> ompaul, yep. powerd.. and plugged in via usb etc.
[01:35] <delmar> ompaul, hey ill reset the power on it. sec
[01:35] <ompaul> delmar, with something like that I would be inclined to reboot both the box and it
[01:35] <ompaul> Pinewheel,  and ?
[01:35] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Nope, that didn't work
[01:36] <Pinewheel> I get the same error.
[01:36] <CokeNCode> would it help if i tried rebooting the pc ?
[01:36] <CokeNCode> :S
[01:36] <delmar> ompaul, what the hell. ill reboot :P
[01:36] <CokeNCode> ME TOO !!!  :D ... as long as everyone's doing it
[01:37] <ompaul> Pinewheel,  what do the permissions on that look like ?  -rw-------  1 username username 1815 2006-05-13 08:26 .ICEauthority
[01:37] <ompaul> where 08:26 was the last login
[01:37] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Sorry, I don't understand the question.
[01:37] <mag_> I have some problems with compiz, can you help me
[01:37] <mag_> hhey
[01:37] <dooglus> Pinewheel: paste the output of "ls -ld ~/.ICE*"
[01:37] <ompaul> Pinewheel, go back into another terminal and do ls -al
[01:38] <ompaul> Pinewheel, more like dooglus said
[01:38] <mag_> Help me !!!!!!!!!!!
[01:38] <ompaul> !helpme
[01:38] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[01:38] <hintswen> lol
[01:38] <Pinewheel> ompaul: No such file or directory.
[01:38] <dooglus> Pinewheel: that's not your problem then.  something else is wrong.
[01:38] <dibblego> how can I have a process started at boot time?
[01:38] <Satya> hi, I installed unbuntu on a free partition on my Hard disk; it landed me into a text-only command line mode after the installation completed. I tried startx, but it wont start the GUI; so I tried suo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; that didnt work either;
[01:39] <dooglus> dibblego: I add a line to start it to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh personally
[01:39] <ompaul> Pinewheel, hmm, so first (kinda obvious one) did it ever work?
[01:39] <Pinewheel> Nope
[01:39] <Satya> says "couldnt stat source package list"
[01:39] <mag_> is it normal gconf-editor has only one line with the efects of compiz ?
[01:39] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Sorry, did you mean "has Gnome ever worked"?
[01:39] <ompaul> Pinewheel, I did
[01:40] <samuli> satya, can you get to your sources.list?
[01:40] <dibblego> dooglus: does that script run as a sudo user?
[01:40] <Satya> yes; I can get to any file
[01:40] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Yes. I was using it until I had to go into terminal and close a full screen application that froze X.
[01:40] <dooglus> dibblego: it does
[01:40] <dooglus> dibblego: it runs as root
[01:40] <dibblego> ok cheers
[01:40] <samuli> well, what does it say in the /etc/apt/sourcers.list?
[01:40] <samuli> paste it to pastebin.
[01:40] <delmar> ompaul, ok so thats all the basic stuff outta the way.. still no scanner detected
[01:40] <dooglus> dibblego: don't try to run any graphical stuff of course
[01:40] <Satya> Samuli, I didnt take a look; I will do that and get back; what do you want me to look for?
[01:41] <samuli> satya, just paste whole sources.list to pastebin.
[01:41] <dibblego> no, I just want to start an application server
[01:41] <ompaul> Pinewheel, okay have you restarted the box since it froze?
[01:41] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Yes.
[01:41] <dooglus> dibblego: it might be worth adding a whole new script into /etc/init.d/ and linking to it from /etc/rc2.d/
[01:42] <samuli> satya, or if you don't have one, we have to make one for you.
[01:42] <Satya> ok, I am logged thru Gaim from Windows Xp; can I get any text based IRC ?
[01:42] <dibblego> there are a bunch of scripts in /etc/init.d - is it just a matter of adding my own?
[01:42] <Arrick> bbib
[01:42] <dooglus> dibblego: that's the 'right' way to do it, but bootmisc.sh works too
[01:42] <samuli> Satya, try irssi.
[01:42] <Satya> Samuli, ok how do I get that : is there a simple command like apt-get
[01:42] <dooglus> dibblego: add a script in /etc/init.d and a link to it in /etc/rc<level>.d/ where <level> is the runlevel you want it to run at
[01:42] <dibblego> dooglus: do all scripts in /etc/rc2.d execute? do I have to reference them from somewhere?
[01:42] <samuli> satya, I think it should be installed.
[01:43] <Satya> okay I will try that and get back; thanks!!
[01:43] <dibblego> ok, so no fiddling with any other files?
[01:43] <dooglus> dibblego: all the ones with 'S' get started when runlevel 2 is entered, and all the ones with 'K' get stopped
[01:43] <dooglus> dibblego: type "runlevel" in a shell to check what level you run at.
[01:43] <dibblego> what's the number after the S/K?
[01:43] <dooglus> dibblego: I think it should be 2
[01:43] <dibblego> N 2
[01:44] <ompaul> Pinewheel, in a terminal  bonobo-slay -s and then try to log in again
[01:44] <dooglus> dibblego: that's just the order they're run in.  you might want to use a biggish number so it starts later than other stuff at the same level
[01:44] <dooglus> dibblego: 2, yes.
[01:44] <ompaul> Pinewheel, it is not fair, its 0:44 am and I have to think :)
[01:44] <dibblego> ok - importantly, where can I read about what you just told me?
[01:44] <Pinewheel> lol ompaul
[01:44] <yodaz> hi all
[01:44] <n1tr0us> my linux wont work
[01:44] <bluelotus> http://cybarc.is-a-geek.net/index.html  The right-nav div is in the bottem left hand corner, but it has float:right; clear:right;  I want it to be right next to the lines of center-fill, opposing hte left-nav.  any help?
[01:45] <bluelotus> http://cybarc.is-a-geek.net/includes/style.css
[01:45] <yodaz> I have problem to set up my HP PSC 1310 with dapper
[01:45] <ompaul> n1tr0us, (A) X is broken is lacking in detail and (B) be nice
[01:45] <yodaz> scanning works perfectly but printing don't
[01:45] <dooglus> dibblego: "man init"
[01:45] <bluelotus> oops
[01:45] <dibblego> man init
[01:45] <bluelotus> wrong channel
[01:45] <dibblego> oops, me too
[01:45] <dooglus> heh
[01:46] <yodaz> I have the following messages in cups error log : cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[01:46] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Nope
[01:46] <yodaz> and that in syslog : hpiod: ParDevice::nibble_read failed: Input/output error
[01:47] <dooglus> ompaul: surely there's a logfile somewhere which will tell you why GNOME's not staying up for Pinewheel?
[01:47] <Pinewheel> .xsession-errors?
[01:47] <dooglus> Pinewheel: I was thinking maybe /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[01:48] <dooglus> Pinewheel: is there anything interesting in there?
[01:48] <HunterZ> bye
[01:48] <miguel_> good night
[01:48] <miguel_> how are you ?
[01:48] <miguel_> I am a new user on ubuntu
[01:48] <Pinewheel> dooglus: I'm not sure if it's interesting or not :P
[01:48] <dooglus> Pinewheel: want to paste it somewhere?
[01:49] <b3nw> miguel_ woot :)
[01:49] <miguel_> yesterday a receive my pack
[01:49] <Pinewheel> dooglus: Sure
[01:49] <miguel_> and well this day I install on my computer
[01:49] <miguel_> good bye the private software
[01:49] <Pinewheel> I'm running a failsafe terminal.. how do you propose I do it?
[01:49] <miguel_> jejeje
[01:50] <dooglus> Pinewheel: I propose you get Seveas' pastebin script, as follows...  (please wait)
[01:50] <linux_galore> theres an oxymoron  fail & safe
[01:51] <linux_galore> up there with dry & water
[01:51] <dooglus> doh!  he's taken it off his site!  I'll upload my copy, just a sec.
[01:52] <dooglus> Pinewheel: do a "wget http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/pastebin", that will download the script.  then "chmod +x pastebin" and edit it - change 'Dooglus' to 'Pinewheel'
[01:53] <Pinewheel> Okay
[01:53] <dooglus> Pinewheel: then "cat <file-to-paste> | ./pastebin"
[01:53] <linux_galore> dooglus: oooh thats sooo easy
[01:53] <joedj> dibblego: https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/UbuntuBootupHowto
[01:54] <dibblego> excellent thanks
[01:55] <linux_galore> dooglus: need to add an installer to the script
[01:55] <dooglus> linux_galore: do you have an easier way of pasting stuff to the pastebin when you can't run X?
[01:55] <linux_galore> dooglus: not complaining about the script just all the geek help
[01:56] <linux_galore> chmod +x should be within the script
[01:56] <dooglus> linux_galore: um...  the script won't run if it's not executable
[01:56] <Pinewheel> dooglus: I'm very sorry about this, but could you tell me which line contains "Dooglus"?
[01:56] <dooglus> 69
[01:57] <linux_galore> dooglus: you can send the script a an executable
[01:57] <linux_galore> as*
[01:58] <linux_galore> dooglus: just make sure the script as an install stage built ine
[01:58] <dooglus> linux_galore: what are you talking about?
[01:58] <dooglus> linux_galore: I didn't send the script.  I uploaded it to a web site
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> chmod +x the web site. :P
[01:58] <linux_galore> dooglus: well all the help scripts Ive done (self extracting installable files mostly)
[01:59] <gnosticapex> Ah finally got my Xserver working ^^
[02:00] <linux_galore> Dr_Willis: when dealing with new users I always go, if you cant click on it forget it start again
[02:00] <Pinewheel> dooglus: Okay. Thanks anyway
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> linux_galore,  they updated the pcs at work.. and now 90% of us cant fill in our overtime hours now.
[02:00] <dooglus> linux_galore: his whole problem is that he can't get into X.  he can't click on anything.  do you understand?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:01] <linux_galore> dooglus: aah, Live CD time
[02:01] <dooglus> linux_galore: he can boot ubuntu, and log in to a VC, but GNOME isn't working.
[02:01] <dooglus> linux_galore: I don't see how a live cd will help.
[02:01] <Pinewheel> dooglus: The error message tells me to check .xsession-errors
[02:02] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: use a failsafe terminal session
[02:02] <dooglus> Pinewheel: paste that then I guess
[02:02] <linux_galore> dooglus: well for starters give you a working Xorg.conf file
[02:02] <Pinewheel> RandolphCarter: I am.
[02:05] <Pinewheel> any ideas?
[02:06] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: sorry, could you paste the .xsession-errors file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[02:06] <linux_galore> dooglus: did you try to get him to start a basic X session without gnome
[02:06] <RandolphCarter> ahh, it's there :)
[02:06] <linux_galore> ie no gdm
[02:07] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: could you cd to /tmp and run 'ls -l .' for me?
[02:07] <dooglus> linux_galore: no, I was trying to get him to try GNOME as a different user.
[02:07] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: and cd to /var/lib/gdm and run 'ls -l' (and paste the results to the board?)
[02:08] <linux_galore> dooglus: we dont even know if the problem is gnome yet
[02:08] <Pinewheel> okay. brb
[02:09] <Pinewheel> I get the same error with another user account
[02:09] <obuzus> hi
[02:10] <dooglus> ok
[02:10] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: could you paste those ls'? :)
[02:10] <Pinewheel> RandolphCarter: Sorry, could you repeat the commands please?
[02:11] <RandolphCarter> cd /tmp; ls -l; cd /var/lib/gdm; ls -l
[02:11] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: the .xsession-errors log says /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[02:11] <linux_galore> Pinewheel: type sudo xinit   use  ctrl alt backspace to kill the session if it works
[02:11] <dooglus> mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied
[02:11] <RandolphCarter> probably /tmp
[02:11] <RandolphCarter> could put its sockets in /var/lib/gdm though, so best to be safe
[02:11] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: I guess it's that mkdtemp failing that's the problem.  what runs that?
[02:11] <ompaul> RandolphCarter, he will need to   sudo ls /var/lib/gdm
[02:12] <RandolphCarter> ahh, forget the /var/lib/gdm then, that couldn't possibly be it
[02:12] <Pinewheel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13951
[02:12] <RandolphCarter> thanks
[02:14] <RandolphCarter> hmm, sorry Pinewheel: ls -la?
[02:14] <RandolphCarter> my fault :/
[02:14] <Pinewheel> np
[02:14] <Kadran> hi can i write to ntfs? or it's readonly??
[02:14] <Pinewheel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13952
[02:15] <linux_galore> Kadran: default is read only but if you use captive you can do write but its still beta
[02:15] <RandolphCarter> cheers
[02:15] <RandolphCarter> sudo chmod 777 /tmp
[02:15] <linux_galore> Kadran: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[02:15] <Kadran> linux_galore: how can i install captive?
[02:15] <Pinewheel> RandolphCarter: done
[02:15] <RandolphCarter> then try logging in again in gnome
[02:15] <linux_galore> Kadran: ^^
[02:15] <Kadran> linux_galore: thanks alot
[02:15] <Pinewheel> okay
[02:16] <jrattner1> If I'm acccessing an IMAP account from an email client, do i want to "subscribe" to the inbox in order for everything to be syncronized?
[02:16] <gumpish> yep
[02:16] <pnookster> have any of you used this router guide (iptables, dns, ip masq)? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111972
[02:16] <jrattner1> yes?
[02:16] <gumpish> yep
[02:16] <Pinewheel> RandolphCarter: Thanks. It worked :D
[02:17] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: np's :) you need to run 'sudo chmod +t /tmp' too, then you should be set
[02:17] <Pinewheel> Thanks a lot for your help.
[02:18] <RandolphCarter> dw :) It'd be interesting to know how the permissions for /tmp got messed up, but it doesn't matter so much now
[02:19] <linux_galore> RandolphCarter: hmm some distro's I notice check the tmp stuff when they boot up to make sure its not going to break
[02:19] <RandolphCarter> might be an RFE in that
[02:19] <Mez> anyone play ut ?
[02:19] <pnookster> can someone help me troubleshoot ip masq?
[02:20] <linux_galore> pnookster: just use firestarter its got a IP masq section
[02:20] <dibblego> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/UbuntuBootupHowto "sudo update-rc.d myscript start 51 S ." - if I want to back out of that, do I just remove the symlink in /etc/rcS.d ?
[02:21] <colin__> anyone know why I am having trouble using the update-manager to upgrade to dapper?
[02:21] <paradizelost> colin__: what error are you getting?!
[02:21] <paradizelost> are you following !upgrade
[02:21] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[02:21] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:21] <linux_galore> pnookster: firestarter is in the repositories
[02:21] <pnookster> alright
[02:21] <paradizelost> also, it may be more appropriate for #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <pnookster> thanks :B
[02:22] <themaan> does anyone know if ubuntu comes with these packages  XFree86-Mesa-libGL
[02:22] <themaan>  libstdc++
[02:22] <themaan>  libgcc
[02:22] <themaan>  XFree86-libs
[02:22] <themaan>  fontconfig
[02:22] <themaan>  expat
[02:22] <linux_galore> pnookster: no brainer firewall tool
[02:22] <themaan>  freetype
[02:22] <themaan>  zlib
[02:22] <paradizelost> !paste
[02:22] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[02:22] <pnookster> does it have a gui config tool? :D
[02:22] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: what's an RFE?
[02:22] <colin__> when i try to run update-manager nothing happens
[02:22] <linux_galore> pnookster: yep, its a bit like a zonealarm front end to iptables
[02:23] <pnookster> sweet!!
[02:23] <themaan> im trying to install my video card driveer and I want to make sure I got the right packages
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> paradizelost: How can I make update-manager use -d by default?  So I can just click the icon in the notification area.
[02:23] <RandolphCarter> dooglus: Request for Enhancement
[02:23] <pnookster> thanks a LOT. I was having issues with the ip masq script i found on the ubuntu forums xD
[02:23] <colin__> anybody have any answers?
[02:23] <linux_galore> pnookster: you just run it once it then creates a startup rules script then you dont have to run it again unless you want to edit anything
[02:24] <pnookster> very nice
[02:24] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: oh, I see.
[02:24] <pnookster> do I need to run it as root?
[02:24] <linux_galore> pnookster: if your a security nut you can have it running in the task bar 100% of the time but you dont have to
[02:24] <colin__> paradizelost, i follow the instructions but it never upgrades
[02:25] <linux_galore> pnookster: with sudo yes because its edits the system settings
[02:25] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: I once had breezy delete itself when I booted due to /tmp having a 'bind mount' in it.
[02:25] <pnookster> righto
[02:25] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: I think a little /tmp-sanity-checking would be a good thing.
[02:26] <RandolphCarter> dooglus: erk :/ that's a little crazy - yeah, probably best to assimilate it from another distro too
[02:26] <linux_galore> pnookster: basically if it edits anything thats a "system wide" option you need sudo
[02:26] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: I had the whole of / bound to a mountpoint /tmp/root
[02:26] <pnookster> hm
[02:26] <dooglus> when it booted, breezy cleared out /tmp, as it always does, including /tmp/root, my entire filesystem
[02:27] <pnookster> there any reason why the enable dhcp option is ghosted?
[02:27] <linux_galore> pnookster: because your running dhcp
[02:27] <green_earz> themaan: check out the link so you can find the module name for the video card. then apt-get install modconf and use it to install your video module  http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[02:27] <pnookster> Need to stop it before i run firestarter?
[02:28] <pnookster> (it wasn't working anyway >_>)
[02:28] <linux_galore> pnookster: no its a seperate service
[02:28] <pnookster> yeah, I know that. just thought since firestarter had a checkbox for it, it would help me configure that too
[02:28] <RandolphCarter> dooglus: man :/ that's a nasty malfunction
[02:28] <linux_galore> pnookster: usually I find thats ghosted if dhcp isnt in use
[02:28] <pnookster> ahhh
[02:28] <pnookster> maybe i stopped it earlier. hm
[02:29] <colin__> does anybody know why upgrade-manager might break?
[02:29] <colin__> update-manager
[02:29] <linux_galore> pnookster: theres actually a really good (with pics) online manual for firestarter
[02:30] <pnookster> sweet
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> with pics... :)
[02:30] <linux_galore> pnookster: http://www.fs-security.com/
[02:31] <linux_galore> well I find plain text manuals for graphical tools is dumb
[02:31] <gnomefreak> colin__: what do you me break?
[02:31] <colin__> it doesnt work, it will not load when run
[02:32] <gnomefreak> colin__: the update manager as in the one for breezy updates or the one to upgrade to dapper?
[02:32] <linux_galore> its strange how a few pictures in a howto makes a user feel more secure
[02:32] <colin__> well its the program isnt it
[02:32] <colin__> if i goto system update-manager
[02:33] <colin__> nothing happens
[02:33] <gnomefreak> colin__: ok lets try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <colin__> and if i gksudo "update-manager -d"
[02:33] <hupp3l> hey guys
[02:33] <gnomefreak> colin__: can you type that in terminal and hit enter please
[02:33] <colin__> nothing happens
[02:33] <hupp3l> i did something very stupid and I need help
[02:33] <gnomefreak> colin__: those are different things
[02:33] <colin__> hmm
[02:34] <gnomefreak> update-manager -d without the " is to upgrade you to dapper
[02:34] <hupp3l> i deleted my grub loader without having my ntloader in the MBR
[02:34] <colin__> so if i type update-manager
[02:34] <linux_galore> hupp3l: nothing is stupid, we just make mistakes and thats normal
[02:34] <mag_> doesn't happened nothing when I typed sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:34] <colin__> tells me i need to be root
[02:34] <gnomefreak> colin__: the update manager is for updates for your current version
[02:34] <colin__> ok i would like to upgrade to dapper
[02:34] <gnomefreak> colin__: did you install ubuntu on that pc?
[02:34] <hupp3l> do you understand what I did? im pretty sure it is fixable
[02:35] <linux_galore> hupp3l: dont know yet
[02:35] <linux_galore> hupp3l: aah sorry missed that post
[02:35] <linux_galore> hupp3l: yep thats fixable
[02:35] <iratsu> how well does ubuntu run on the intel mac mini?
[02:35] <colin__> gnomefreak, before i was able to upgrade following the instructions on the wiki. It worked on my desktop
[02:35] <hupp3l> ah thanx
[02:35] <colin__> gnomefreak, its not working on my laptop
[02:36] <pnookster> hmmm
[02:36] <linux_galore> hupp3l: just need to recover the mbr, do you have a live boot cd
[02:36] <pnookster> firestarter's running, no errors
[02:36] <hupp3l> yeah
[02:36] <badin> Hi Linux convert here! Just installed Ubuntu Dapper Beta
[02:36] <gnomefreak> colin__: type in terminal sudo update-manager -d   and than enter your user password and tell me what happens?
[02:36] <linux_galore> hupp3l: let me get the howto for you
[02:36] <hupp3l> i have UBCD
[02:36] <BHSPitLappy> mazel tov
[02:36] <pnookster> i can ping my desktop from my laptop, and i can ping my laptop(with firestarter) from my desktop
[02:36] <hupp3l> would that maybe help even faster?
[02:36] <pnookster> but it's not forwarding anything
[02:36] <colin__> ok colin@digi:~$ sudo update-manager -d
[02:36] <colin__> colin@digi:~$
[02:37] <colin__> nothing happens after that
[02:37] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[02:37] <gnomefreak> colin__: sudo apt-get update
[02:37] <hupp3l> linux_galore I have the UBCD would what maybe help more?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> colin__: does that run?
[02:37] <linux_galore> hupp3l: really doesnt matter
[02:37] <colin__> no
[02:37] <linux_galore> hupp3l: the method is the same
[02:37] <gnomefreak> colin__: did you happen to enable root?
[02:37] <hupp3l> o ok
[02:38] <colin__> you know actually my brother di
[02:38] <colin__> d
[02:38] <gnomefreak> colin__: theres your issue
[02:38] <gnomefreak> colin__: type su than password
[02:38] <colin__> ok then how do i upgrade, from the root account
[02:38] <gnomefreak> do you get the #
[02:38] <colin__> i dont think that works
[02:38] <colin__> let me try again
[02:38] <gnomefreak> colin__: su enter than password sorry
[02:39] <Marsmensch> anyone knows a good anime channel
[02:39] <linux_galore> hupp3l: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-repair-corrupt-mbr-and-boot.html
[02:39] <hupp3l> thanx linux_galore
[02:40] <gnomefreak> colin__: did that work?
[02:40] <mag_> somebody can help me ? I cant' restart gdm ! help me !
[02:40] <gnomefreak> mag_: ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:40] <unen> ok guys, quick question. how do i move the bottom default (window and workspace control panel)?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> unen: the gnome task bar on bottom?
[02:41] <nullified> unen: Click and drag
[02:41] <mag_> Yes but when I come back again ubuntu showme a msg and said that the gdm had been restarted many times !
[02:41] <linux_galore> hupp3l: just read the "using knoppix" section the Ubuntu live CD and Knoppix are very similar
[02:41] <unen> gnomefreak: yeah
[02:41] <nullified> unen: I can moved mine around the screen by clicking and dragging
[02:41] <gnomefreak> left click it and drag afaik unen
[02:41] <mag_> gnomefreak and also I cant see the button shutdown in graphic session ! why ?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> for some reason i cant right now but was able to
[02:42] <unen> ... im screwed
[02:42] <unen> nothing happens when i click and drag
[02:42] <gnomefreak> mag_: im not sure
[02:42] <gnomefreak> mag_: restart the pc it should show back up
[02:42] <mag_> gnomefreack I cant do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:42] <gnomefreak> mag_: i think its the way you left gdm
[02:42] <nullified> unen: Right click it, Click properties, You can select where it goes in that panel
[02:42] <pookie> weeeeird. I ifup eth0 (private nic). Ifup wlan0 (external nic). run firestarter. configure it, blablabla.
[02:42] <nullified> unen: Its called "orientation"
[02:43] <pookie> can no longer connect to the internet on my laptop (running firestarter)
[02:43] <pookie> and while i can ping my private network, and my private network can ping my laptop...
[02:43] <colin__> gnomefreak, thanks
[02:43] <unen> nullified: lemme try it right quick
[02:43] <pookie> I can't get out of the private network.
[02:43] <gnomefreak> colin__: it worked?
[02:43] <colin__> yeah just had to be root
[02:43] <gnomefreak> colin__: my advice is to disable root again and add yours self back to sudoers list
[02:44] <Arrick> pookie, you need to open the router for intenet access probably, either that or your DNS info is borked
[02:44] <gnomefreak> but thats just my advice ;)
[02:44] <linux_galore> pookie: all firestarter does is set the rules, if it stop you have the wrong rules
[02:44] <gnomefreak> ok noght all
[02:44] <pookie> well
[02:44] <pookie> i have the firewall section of firestarter off
[02:44] <pookie> just used it to generate config files.
[02:44] <unen> nullified: wow, its screwed way the hell up... its not even reacting to that except when i tell it to go left/right then it just rotates itself
[02:44] <linux_galore> pookie: firestarter isnt a firewall just a front end
[02:45] <pookie> then why does it have a button that says "Start Firewall"...?
[02:45] <mag_> gnomefreak I'll install compiz and xgl on ubuntu, but I need make gdm restart and when I did that I doesn't happen nothing
[02:45] <nullified> unen: To be honest, I'm very noobey at this, I cant really assist you further.
[02:45] <unen> nullified: ok
[02:45] <dreambox> guyz ho can i configer my to work on cardserv
[02:45] <nullified> unen: gnomefreak might be able to help you...i assume by his name he likes gnome ...hehe
[02:45] <linux_galore> pookie: because iptables firewall rules can be flushed at any time
[02:45] <gnomefreak> mag_: join #ubuntu-xgl they should beable to help more
[02:45] <pookie> ah.
[02:45] <unen> nullified: yeah lol
[02:45] <gnomefreak> nullified: ?
[02:46] <linux_galore> pookie: all firestarter does is set the rules for the iptables firewall
[02:46] <unen> gnomefreak: hey uhh its completely borked... i change the orientation and all it will do is rotate
[02:46] <gnosticapex> What's the harddrive name in Ubuntu? >.>
[02:46] <pookie> Right. And I didn't set any rules - I just enabled connection sharing via eth0
[02:46] <dreambox> guyz ho can i configer my ubuntu to work on cardserv
[02:46] <nullified> gnomefreak: I was just saying to unen that hes having a problem in gnome, i know very little about linux he should look to someone more experianced, someone like yourself
[02:46] <mag_> gnomefreak : I'm in thath channel too but my problem is with the gdm !
[02:46] <gnomefreak> unen: im not sure off hand im sorry
[02:46] <unen> gnomefreak: ok
[02:47] <linux_galore> pookie: firestarter always sets a whole load of rules even if you define nothing is puts a whole heap of stuff in there to stop people hacking your system
[02:47] <tjb891_> if anyone know anything about soundcards but can anyone tell me which of of these is the best (i have integrated sound) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010360057+4024&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=57
[02:47] <pookie> Okay.
[02:47] <pookie> So.
[02:47] <gnomefreak> mag_: i think it has more to do with compix since it took over for xorg
[02:47] <MarkShark> Does anyone know why Debian has a kdb package, but Ubuntu doesn't?
[02:47] <pookie> Since I have outgoing connections set to 'permissive - blacklist blocking' with nothing on the blacklist
[02:47] <nullified> unen: I had a similar problem. I accidentally removed the gnome UI and then apt-get install gnome, Once i did that it sorted all my gnome problems..but that wiped gnome off completly and re-installed it
[02:48] <gnomefreak> mag_: iirc compiz is now used instead of xorg so i would check with them or in #ubuntu+1
[02:48] <pookie> theoretically I should be okay to ping from something connected to eth0 to something on the internet (wlan0)
[02:48] <unen> nullified: goddamit, alright i guess ill have to do that
[02:48] <linux_galore> pookie: dont forget firestarter is designed for people with little of no knowlege of firewall so it sets many rules that most users would have to spend a day just getting there head around
[02:48] <linux_galore> or*
[02:48] <gnomefreak> unen: language
[02:48] <cloudzhou> i hava just install dapper
[02:48] <pookie> How do I figure out if the problem in the connection is in firestarter or bind9 though?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> ok now i go to bed
[02:49] <gnomefreak> cloudzhou: #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <unen> nullified: where do i do that, delete gnome and once thats done whats the terminal command to reinstall it
[02:49] <linux_galore> pookie: good start is read the firestarter manual it has some clever stuff in there about services
[02:49] <dreambox> anyone help me in how to configer ubuntu to work on cardserv
[02:50] <linux_galore> pookie: the manual is not long or complex and as pics to show you how things are done
[02:50] <pookie> alrighty
[02:50] <nullified> unen: I removed it via synaptic, Once i did that you reboot the computer it takes you straight to the CLI no GUI or nothing, Just type apt-get install gnome
[02:51] <unen> thats it? apt-get install gnome
[02:51] <linux_galore> pookie: http://www.fs-security.com/
[02:51] <nullified> unen: Im not sure how i got gnome to start then I'll look for the command for you now.
[02:52] <Snow_Shelter> how do I mount a partition in a chroot?
[02:52] <Snow_Shelter> I have it mounted in the normal OS, but I can't figure out how to mount it in chroot
[02:53] <linux_galore> Snow_Shelter: real the knoppix section tells you how to mount a chroot http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-repair-corrupt-mbr-and-boot.html
[02:53] <linux_galore> read*
[02:53] <nullified> unen: /etc/init.d/gdm start : I belive thats the command to start the Gnome interfact once its been re-downloaded
[02:54] <nickrud> Snow_Shelter, just like you would without; make sure that dev is mounted inside the chroot first
[02:54] <unen> ok
[02:54] <unen> nullified: ok, thanks
[02:54] <nullified> unen: Best of luck to you mate
[02:54] <GTroy> hey in twin view....how do you switch the sides the monitors are on?
[02:54] <GTroy> editing xorg.conf?
[02:55] <GTroy> I followed sfink01 directions
[02:55] <GTroy> so the setup is different than xinerama
[02:56] <dreambox> no one help here??
[02:56] <GTroy> dreambox, everyone's gone!
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> GTroy,  i recall theres a order they are defined in. I think ya reverse them
[02:56] <dreambox> :(((
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> or was there a 'left of, and right of' definition/line. (or was that Syngery)
[02:57] <RyanTMulligan> I ran iwconfig, and it hung... now I cannot kill the process of it running... not even kill -s 9 pid any ideas?
[02:57] <GTroy> that's xinerama
[02:57] <GTroy> Dr_Willis, ok thanks
[02:57] <linux_galore> GTroy: yes and edit the Option	    "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf"  line the options are      RightOf     LeftOf     Above     Below     Clone
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Syngery uses that similer thing as well.
[02:57] <jack1> g
[02:57] <GTroy> how do I find out what the monitors names are
[02:57] <Tarantulafudge_> wassup guys
[02:57] <GTroy> I have 0 and 0 0
[02:58] <|Sivik|> GTroy: is that for a laptop?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> ive only cloned my displays
[02:58] <GTroy> no desktop
[02:58] <unen> nullified: ok well, i just fixed it, thank god
[02:58] <GTroy> with nvidia 6200
[02:58] <nullified> unen: How?
[02:58] <|Sivik|> GTroy: can you not just look at it to see what kind of monitor it is
[02:58] <unen> nullified: just told it align right and expand
[02:58] <GTroy> it's not written in the xorg.conf file that way
[02:58] <unen> nullified: once it expanded along the right alignment, told it bottom, then told it to unexpand
[02:59] <|Sivik|> GTroy: what does it say in the xorg.conf
[02:59] <nullified> unen: Intersting, I'll remember that, We could of stopped and started gnome aswell that might help
[02:59] <|Sivik|> GTroy: that may be the fact that it isn't reconized right by the kernel, why does it really matter
[02:59] <unen> nullified: thank the bejeezus lol that panel had me reaaaaaally worried
[02:59] <Tarantulafudge_> GTroy: try your xorg log file
[02:59] <GTroy> they're both seen
[02:59] <GTroy> I have to move the cursor to opposite ends to get across
[02:59] <|Sivik|> GTory: as long as it reconizes the video card right, it really doesn't matter about the bloody monitor
[03:00] <|Sivik|> GTroy: my monitor isn't reconized right but i don't care
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> move the monitors around. :P
[03:00] <GTroy> I don't want to blow it up!!!
[03:00] <nullified> unen: Brilliant, We learn new things every day, Linux wouldnt be fun if we knew everything!
[03:00] <GTroy> hahahahah
[03:00] <|Sivik|> GTroy: thats rather hrd to do
[03:00] <|Sivik|> hard*
[03:00] <linux_galore> GTroy: doesnt happen
[03:00] <|Sivik|> GTroy: linux_galore is right
[03:01] <linux_galore> GTroy: all monitors are multi now
[03:01] <GTroy> I'll use Dr.Willis' suggestion
[03:01] <GTroy> these are old monitors
[03:01] <|Sivik|> GTroy: how old?
[03:01] <GTroy> generic OLD ones
[03:01] <linux_galore> GTroy: have to be really old mines 1998 and has multi
[03:01] <GTroy> I boutght them at goodwill
[03:01] <|Sivik|> GTroy: most monitors since they were created for desktops have been multi
[03:01] <GTroy> ok
[03:01] <nullified> He stole them from an old school, They have RM network stickers on them
[03:02] <GTroy> well you solved my problems
[03:02] <|Sivik|> GTroy: yw
[03:02] <linux_galore> heh heh
[03:02] <unen> nullified: thats right, freeing ourselves from the binding chains of windows and corporate tyranny! lol
[03:02] <|Sivik|> GTroy: what kind of fps are you getting with that 6200 card
[03:02] <nullified> unen: hahaha, Exactly!
[03:02] <|Sivik|> glxgears -printfps
[03:02] <RandolphCarter> man, -printfps is much shorter than -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark, thanks Sivik
[03:03] <|Sivik|> RandolphCarter: thats what i just told him to do
[03:03] <nullified> bwahahahaha
[03:03] <RandolphCarter> yeah, I didn't know about it :) cheers
[03:03] <|Sivik|> RandolphCarter: ok
[03:03] <RandolphCarter> mmm, 9218 fps ^_^
[03:03] <|Sivik|> GTroy: what is your fps?
[03:03] <|Sivik|> RandolphCarter: what kind of card and how much ram do you have on it and in your system
[03:04] <bon_> i need to stop the default programs that i had load last time from loading becuas3 they ar3 crashing my comp any ida3
[03:04] <Tarantulafudge_> I wish ATI had drivers as good as nvidia
[03:04] <linux_galore> Im trying to remember when mutli sync monitors came out, must be mid 1980's
[03:04] <RandolphCarter> |Sivik|: Radeon X800, AMD64 x2 2800, 2gb RAM
[03:04] <RandolphCarter> s/2800/3800
[03:04] <pnookster> guh. sucks. every time I try to test it, it cuts my connection to the internet and thus my connection to irc -_-
[03:04] <|Sivik|> how much ram in the video card?
[03:04] <RandolphCarter> 256m
[03:04] <|Sivik|> why ati?
[03:04] <RandolphCarter> Sapphire X800 GTO^2
[03:04] <RandolphCarter> I was in germany and nobody had a ruddy NVidia card for sale
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> lol
[03:04] <|Sivik|> thats why you order it online
[03:05] <RandolphCarter> nobody in the UK would ship to germany :(
[03:05] <|Sivik|> you don't have to order just form UK
[03:05] <|Sivik|> there is the rest of the world
[03:05] <bon_> useless
[03:05] <|Sivik|> anyone would ship to germany for the right price
[03:05] <nullified> Ooooh I got 240FPS, Is that good for a knackered 2100+ CPU and 1GB of Dodgey ram, with a semi broken 8x AGP ATI 9800Pro?
[03:05] <Tarantulafudge_> Does anyone know if ubuntu installs proprietary drivers as an option now?
[03:05] <linux_galore> yeah I built a new work desktop (via the phone) and got a 7200 card in it, thing turns up and has 512mb of ram on the video card
[03:05] <liquidten2> Not even close to good FPS
[03:05] <liquidten2> <_<
[03:05] <bon_> simle fix?
[03:05] <bon_> yeah?
[03:05] <Snow_Shelter> nickrud: ?
[03:05] <|Sivik|> liquidten2: what kind of card and what are you fps?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> Tarantulafudge_,  not that i have heard of..
[03:05] <linux_galore> sheesh who uses 512mb of ram in a game
[03:06] <Snow_Shelter> linux_galore: that didn't work. In fact, that failed miserably
[03:06] <liquidten2> Nvidia Geforce FX5200, pentium3 797mhz, 1300FPS
[03:06] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: on the video card
[03:06] <|Sivik|> 1300 FPS is good for an oler card
[03:06] <RandolphCarter> aye
[03:06] <hintswen> can someone tell me how to use gparted?
[03:06] <nullified> linux_galore: The new Ghost Recon 3, Needs a 512mb card if you want the option of running it on FULL GFX if you dont have one It wont run on full
[03:06] <slackern> nullified, i get around 8000fps with 2400+ 1gb ddr and 9800xt in dapper and fglrx
[03:06] <Snow_Shelter> liquidten2: oh god, that's the crummiest card nVidia ever made
[03:06] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: yeah its a cheap nvidia model, suprised to see it had so much ram on it
[03:06] <slackern> or i should say 3200+
[03:06] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: is that still agp?
[03:06] <nullified> slackern: Anything I can do to improve the performance
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> |Sivik|: yes
[03:07] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: no pcie
[03:07] <slackern> !ati
[03:07] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:07] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: ok
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> really?
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> amazing
[03:07] <liquidten2> Snow_Shelter:  I know <_<.  I just bought it because i have a PCI slot and only had 80$ to spend, and it was the best PCI card i could get at the time.  (plus the only gaming i do is zsnes and epsxe)
[03:07] <|Sivik|> ati = crap
[03:07] <mag_> Hello ! I can't see the shutdow button "so you know why ?"
[03:07] <nullified> thanks mate
[03:07] <slackern> nullified, check that link out from ubotu
[03:07] <luke> anyone know how to install tinyhoneypot??
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> I didn't know they put cards like that with PCI
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> PCI, or PCIe?
[03:07] <liquidten2> PCI
[03:07] <|Sivik|> probably pci
[03:07] <liquidten2> crappy
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> oh, ok
[03:07] <luke> sudo apt-get install tinyhoneypot worked, but now what?
[03:07] <|Sivik|> luke: google it
[03:08] <luke> |Sivik|, i tried. couldnt find anything
[03:08] <liquidten2> I upgraded from my Intel 810 onboard 10MB Vram
[03:08] <pnookster> yay, firestarter documentation includes no troubleshooting section. -_-
[03:08] <Meshezabeel> use the force luke
[03:08] <linux_galore> you can get a Quadra now with 1Gb on the card
[03:08] <|Sivik|> luke: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/tinyhoneypot
[03:08] <Kyral> Meshezabeel: use the SOURCE Like :P
[03:08] <|Sivik|> luke: you can download it from here
[03:08] <mag_> somebody can help me ?
[03:08] <Meshezabeel> :)
[03:08] <needlez> does anyone here have a creative ZEN mp3 player? im trying to get mine to be accesible on my copmuter.
[03:08] <RandolphCarter> that's just a silly amount of video-ram :/
[03:08] <luke> |Sivik|, but sudo apt-get installed it already?
[03:08] <linux_galore> needlez: yes i have one
[03:08] <|Sivik|> needlez: i have been trying to do that for a long time
[03:08] <Jago> pnookster: software whose documentation has no troubleshooting section has no bugs
[03:08] <Jago> pnookster: -_-
[03:09] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: how does one get it to work?
[03:09] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i have a zen micro
[03:09] <needlez> linux_galore, all i want is to get my mp3's off of it and onto my harddrive.
[03:09] <hintswen> according to gparted my second hdd is -4099MB
[03:09] <|Sivik|> lol
[03:09] <|Sivik|> hintswen: thats funny
[03:09] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: wroks fine with gnomad2   just dont update the the release 2.0 firmware
[03:09] <needlez> i have a seperate charger, so im not worried abot that. i just need to get my music off of it
[03:09] <Meshezabeel> nah, a neuros ii is better than a zen
[03:09] <linux_galore> to the*
[03:09] <hintswen> anyone know how to fix? i tried to create disklable thing and it gave a error
[03:09] <needlez> gnomad2....where can i get that?
[03:09] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: ok, how do i go about installing it again
[03:10] <mag_> I can't see the shutdown button on graphic mode, do you know why ?
[03:10] <|Sivik|> !mp3
[03:10] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:10] <|Sivik|> !zen
[03:10] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, |Sivik|
[03:10] <|Sivik|> !creativezen
[03:10] <ubotu> |Sivik|: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:10] <liquidten2> eh
[03:11] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: do i just need to install gnomad2?
[03:11] <needlez> linux_galore, do you know how to install the gnomad2? (huge newbie here)
[03:11] <|Sivik|> sudo apt-get install gnomad2
[03:11] <BHSPitLappy> is wireless relatively easy to set up in ubuntu?
[03:11] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: after i install gnomad2, how do i get it to pick up the nomad
[03:11] <|Sivik|> BHSPitLappy: what card?
[03:12] <needlez> Sivik, i got this message -- E: Couldn't find package gnomad
[03:12] <BHSPitLappy> it's something I think's called "airlink", don't remember
[03:12] <|Sivik|> needlez: then you don't have the right repos uncomminted in your sources.lst
[03:12] <|Sivik|> !repositories
[03:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:12] <BHSPitLappy> should be ndswrappable
[03:12] <BHSPitLappy> but I'm just wondering if there's a good utility for it in ubuntu
[03:12] <|Sivik|> BHSPitLappy: don't know about that card
[03:12] <|Sivik|> probably not
[03:12] <needlez> sivik...wow. you lost me. im a total newb
[03:13] <linux_galore> http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/
[03:13] <|Sivik|> needlez: follow the link that come up when i did the !repo thingy
[03:13] <|Sivik|> the Howto on adding repositories
[03:13] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: you need to add your user the the usb grup
[03:13] <linux_galore> group
[03:13] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i am my user
[03:13] <pnookster> is there an irc channel for firestarter help?
[03:14] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: yes just make sure your user is part of the "usb" group
[03:14] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i installed gnomad2 and then ran it and my zen micro is plugged in and it says "No jukeboxes found on USB bus"
[03:14] <nickrud> pnookster, what's your problem with firestarter?
[03:14] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: how do i do that?
[03:14] <pnookster> well
[03:14] <pnookster> I've got it, trying to forward wlan0 (public) to eth0 (private network)
[03:14] <liquidten2> Run it as root through sudo if you don't want to add yourself to usb group
[03:14] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: its in the user password editor section
[03:14] <nickrud> pnookster, oh, NAT.
[03:15] <|Sivik|> there is only one user on this computer
[03:15] <liquidten2> which technically isn't as secure, but really, what is the WORST that could happen.
[03:15] <pnookster> but when I ifup eth0, my laptop (which is what i'm trying to get working as a nat router) loses all connection to the internet
[03:15] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: theres a groups tab in there is a  group called usb
[03:15] <pnookster> i can ping my private network, private network can ping me
[03:15] <|Sivik|> in where?
[03:15] <pnookster> just can't ping anything connected to wlan0
[03:15] <nickrud> pnookster did your gateway get changed?
[03:15] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: what groups tab where?
[03:15] <hintswen> www.hintswen.com/Screenshot.png =D
[03:15] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: in the password section in the system menu
[03:16] <pnookster> what should it be for eth0? I'm not running dns
[03:16] <pnookster> eth0 is 192.168.2.1 netmas 255.255.255.0
[03:16] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: don't have a password section in my system menu
[03:16] <nickrud> pnookster, I normally run from networking problems, ask anyone :)
[03:16] <liquidten2> |Sivik|: if you can't find it, you could always add your username to where it says "usb" in /etc/group
[03:16] <pnookster> heh.
[03:16] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:16] <pnookster> is there a better place for me to go for help?
[03:16] <pnookster> documentation either doesnt have the answer, or you need a doctorate degree and a nobel prize to understand
[03:17] <|Sivik|> liquidten2: there isn't a place in my /etc/group file that says usb
[03:17] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: im on e17 so I dont use the standard ubuntu setup
[03:17] <ohzie> Can I change the methods of sound output for either rhythmbox or firefox's flash plugin?
[03:17] <|Sivik|> you got e17 installed and working
[03:17] <liquidten2> |Sivik|:  hmm... That means there is no USB group
[03:17] <ohzie> linux_galore: What is el7 Just curious?
[03:17] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: yes
[03:17] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i'm jealous
[03:17] <linux_galore> ohzie: enlightenment, very geeky desktop
[03:17] <ohzie> Oh enlightenment.
[03:18] <ohzie> I've heard it's nice.
[03:18] <ohzie> Is it?
[03:18] <pnookster> I prefer fluxbox :>
[03:18] <thefitz> no window manager is geekier
[03:18] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: its great
[03:18] <linux_galore> ohzie: yeah, bit overwhelming at first but its gets addictive
[03:18] <ohzie> linux_galore: Overwhelming howso?
[03:18] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i just can't ever get it install correctly and have the menu to work
[03:18] <liquidten2> I haven't used enlightenment in a VERY long time.  I thought it was too heavy and too buggy.  Oddly enough, i jumped to GNOME 1.4 >_>
[03:18] <ericz> is there any reccommended window manager for dual monitors?
[03:18] <billynsgr> Ubuntu rules ;)
[03:18] <|Sivik|> liquidten2: how do i create the usb in the group thing?
[03:18] <linux_galore> ohzie: it has more eye candy options that kde/gnome and all the other desktops added together
[03:19] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: is there an easy way to install and configure e17 in ubuntu?
[03:19] <billynsgr> my laptop cd had stopped working - found it partially ejected - just a hardware problem.
[03:19] <ohzie> linux_galore: I was about to ask that same question, the |Sivik| asked.
[03:19] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: I did it from cvs so Im the last person to ask about "easy"
[03:19] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: ok, how do i add my user to the usb users area in the /etc/group file
[03:19] <NoUse> ohzie check /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[03:20] <liquidten2> |Sivik|: Just add it to the /etc/group file like "usb::103:username" , but it won't matter if your program doesn't look at a file owned by the USB group.  I would just run gnomad2 as root.
[03:20] <needlez> hey Sivik, i got gnomad2 to work, but now i have this message "Could not open jukebox:
[03:20] <needlez> usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted"
[03:20] <|Sivik|> do i just add it to that file
[03:20] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: just add your username on the usb line
[03:20] <|Sivik|> needlez: i have the same problem
[03:20] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i don't have a usb line
[03:20] <needlez> damn. lol
[03:20] <rob_p> pnookster:  Here's a simple NAT how-to for Ubuntu:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/1/  Follow the steps and you should be up and running in no time.
[03:20] <pnookster> sweet.
[03:20] <|Sivik|> i'm already running my gnomad2 as root
[03:20] <pnookster> thx!
[03:20] <needlez> linux_galore, do you know what this means? "Could not open jukebox:
[03:20] <needlez> usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted"?
[03:21] <rob_p> pnookster:  welcome
[03:21] <pnookster> Oh.
[03:21] <pnookster> I tried that.
[03:21] <pnookster> the ip masq script didnt work.
[03:21] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: usb:x:43:ups,logan1 is what on mine
[03:21] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:21] <pnookster> as in, it dumped a lot of iptables errors at me.
[03:21] <greedence> hi folks
[03:21] <|Sivik|> can i just add it to that file if its not there
[03:21] <dudemanbro> so i was trying to install gputils, a PIC programming software, and I got this message while running a configure executable: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, any ideas?
[03:21] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: logan1 being my user
[03:21] <|Sivik|> and what is the ups thingy?
[03:21] <rob_p> pnookster:  Then your network settings are not configured properly.
[03:22] <pnookster> Alright. How to I trouble shoot them?
[03:22] <funkyHat> |Sivik|, yes, but use vigr rather than just opening the group file
[03:22] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: thats for my UPS usb backup monitor
[03:22] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:22] <|Sivik|> funkyHat: why vigr not just vi?
[03:22] <WillyTell> hello everyone
[03:22] <liquidten2> |Sivik|: that's not going to work i don't think.  Root has access to everything, and if it does not work as root, it will not work as a user in the USB group
[03:22] <funkyHat> vigr will make sure you haven't messed up
[03:22] <needlez> Sivik, if you figure it out, can you help me out?
[03:22] <WillyTell> cafuego, hello how are you?
[03:22] <dudemanbro> anyone?
[03:23] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: just run gnomad2 as root
[03:23] <linux_galore> sudo gnomad2
[03:23] <|Sivik|> i'm already in root
[03:23] <|Sivik|> i did the sudo su
[03:23] <Doomhammer> guys, what's a good command-line equivalent to BUM (boot up manager)
[03:23] <Doomhammer> ?
[03:23] <|Sivik|> and then ran the gnomad2
[03:23] <Meshezabeel> anyway to get ubuntu to recognize serial mouse on livecd?
[03:23] <|Sivik|> i hate having to type sudo all the bloody time
[03:23] <linux_galore> if that doesnt work it means you have updated the firmware to version 2.0
[03:23] <rob_p> pnookster:  The site leads you through the steps of configuring your network before even trying to establish a NAT policy.  Read through it again and you should be able to make it work.
[03:23] <greedence> hmmm one question (absolut noob): I wanted to install skype on my Ubuntu and i downloaded the *.deb file....When executed then the program says thtat the archive is not supported...
[03:23] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i have no clue what my firmware is
[03:23] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: for the mp3 player
[03:23] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: can i downgrade it?
[03:24] <Tarantulafudge_> how do I delete family members with ubuntu?
[03:24] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: look in the information menu in the player
[03:24] <Doomhammer> guys, what's a good command-line equivalent to BUM (boot up manager) ?
[03:24] <pnookster> it doesn't help with the interfaces file, which I sort of guessed at. based on what i know about the interfaces file.
[03:24] <|Sivik|> Version: 2.20.05
[03:24] <dudemanbro> so i was trying to install gputils, a PIC programming software, and I got this message while running a configure executable: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, any ideas?
[03:24] <pnookster> and, the private network works. the public network works. just not at the same time.
[03:24] <Tarantulafudge_> I can't find my /etc/famtab
[03:24] <needlez> mine is version 1.11.01
[03:24] <Meshezabeel> greedence try easyubuntu for installing skype
[03:24] <WillyTell> cafuego, are you reading???
[03:24] <needlez> how come it still cant find mine?
[03:24] <NoUse> Tarantulafudge_ email a hitman
[03:24] <liquidten2> |Sivik|:  That's very bad, it won't work in linux as far as i know
[03:24] <|Sivik|> dudemanbro: you need to install gcc
[03:25] <|Sivik|> liquidten2: how do i downgrade the firmware
[03:25] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: you cant its a one way trip, once you update to ver 2.0 you can only use it with windows because you have the MTP protocol set as the default (MTP = microsoft transfer protocol)
[03:25] <dudemanbro> |Sivik|, I did
[03:25] <rob_p> pnookster:  Mind pasting your /etc/network/interfaces file to the pastebin?
[03:25] <Tarantulafudge_> NoUse, is famtab hidden in my filesystem somewhere else?
[03:25] <pnookster> sure
[03:25] <dudemanbro> |Sivik|, I used synaptic
[03:25] <greedence> thx
[03:25] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: that blows
[03:25] <needlez> linux_galore, my Zen micro is still at version 1.11.01 and my gnomad2 isnt finding it....any ideas?
[03:25] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i can't believe that you really can't downgrade the firmware
[03:26] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: if you read the gnomad2 site it warns you not to update to the XP version of the firmware stick to the win98 version
[03:26] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: normally with h/w, you can always downgrade the firmware
[03:26] <NoUse> Tarantulafudge_ I thought you were joking, what are you trying to do?
[03:26] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: there is bound to be some way to downgrade it
[03:26] <needlez> Sivik, im sure there is way to do it, you may lose all your mp3's but, im sure there is a way
[03:26] <Tarantulafudge_> NoUse: delete a family member, lol
[03:26] <WillyTell> I installed VMware server, can someone help me?
[03:26] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: yeah send it back lol
[03:26] <NoUse> Tarantulafudge_ haha
[03:26] <ohzie> Is there a way to run nautilus without it running the nautilus desktop??
[03:26] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: lol
[03:26] <___gn0m3___> EJ FINNERIN SMELLS LIKE A MOOSE
[03:26] <RandolphCarter> ohzie: yes, nautilus --no-desktop
[03:26] <ohzie> Thanks.
[03:26] <RandolphCarter> ohzie: surprisingly semantically transparent :)
[03:27] <RandolphCarter> np's
[03:27] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: always try installing the win98 firmware again see if it works
[03:27] <needlez> linux_galore, can you help me out?
[03:27] <basti> Where to get that theme:
[03:27] <altprsona> hi all, i have 5.1 installed, i added kde and am using kde, my screen savers are bugged. only goes to black screen. iv check the power settings... any ideas how to make em work?
[03:27] <basti> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Dapper?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=update-manager-1.png
[03:27] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: thats what i was going to try
[03:27] <pnookster> http://pastebin.com/716260
[03:27] <linux_galore> needlez: run gnomad2 as root
[03:28] <dudemanbro> does anyone know why im getting this error message when trying to install a program:  configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, any ideas?
[03:28] <liquidten2> dudemanbro:  check your cflags
[03:28] <nullified> Heya guys, Just a quick question whats the command to list all HDD's currently plugged into the machine.
[03:28] <liquidten2> dudemanbro:  "echo $CFLAGS"
[03:28] <nickrud> !d-e
[03:28] <ubotu> nickrud: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:28] <linux_galore> needlez: type sudo gnomad2
[03:28] <nickrud> dudemanbro, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:28] <needlez> ok did that.
[03:28] <WillyTell> I have created a virtual machine for windows xp within vmware server, in order to runs it under linux. But doesn't work. help..?!
[03:29] <dudemanbro> liquidten2, it came up blank
[03:29] <|Sivik|> nickrud: thats what i was trying to tel him about
[03:29] <|Sivik|> nickrud: working on way too much stuff at once
[03:29] <linux_galore> needlez: make sure the zen is plugged in and working
[03:29] <needlez> :O it worked!!!!
[03:29] <pnookster> rob_p: http://pastebin.com/716260
[03:29] <|Sivik|> needlez: lucky
[03:29] <needlez> thanks :)
[03:29] <basti> no idea?
[03:29] <nickrud> |Sivik|, I just stepped back in. And, I try to never go above 2
[03:29] <dudemanbro> nickrud, what is this doing?
[03:29] <WillyTell> someone use vmware here?
[03:30] <nullified> Heya guys, Just a quick question whats the command to list all HDD's currently plugged into the machine?
[03:30] <needlez> this is going to take awhile....2467 songs transfer...
[03:30] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: press the menu button  goto information  should show firmware version
[03:30] <liquidten2> duemanbro:  ok then...  Every time i get that error it is because i am running with "-fno-SUPERoptimization-that-doesnt-exist"   Try running the command "cc" from the terminal and see what happens.  If nothing, run "gcc" from the terminal.  If nothing agian, run "apt-get install build-essential" or whatever it is.
[03:30] <dudemanbro> nickrud, wow, it worked, thanks man
[03:30] <nickrud> dudemanbro, it's installing gcc, make, dpkg-dev, the essential things to build software
[03:30] <dudemanbro> nickrud, thanks
[03:30] <rob_p> pnookster:  Ok
[03:31] <nickrud> dudemanbro, synaptic has descriptions of all the packages, very useful
[03:31] <linux_galore> needlz_: you can buld transfers,  just put all the song you want in a single directory, goto the directory in the left hand menu, then highlight the whole lot (shift down key) and transfer in one chunk
[03:31] <linux_galore> buk*
[03:31] <linux_galore> bulk*
[03:31] <linux_galore> grr
[03:31] <twysted> is there anyway in ubuntu/debian to black list a program so it is never installed via apt?
[03:31] <needlez> NOOO!!!!!
[03:31] <rob_p> pnookster:  Now, it looks like your external interface is your wireless interface.  Correct?
[03:32] <pnookster> yes
[03:32] <needlez> i accidentally closed it, and now im getting a connection timed out error
[03:32] <linux_galore> needlez: easy fix just unplug the zen wait 10 seconds plug it in again
[03:32] <|Sivik|> i already have my music off of the zen on this destop
[03:32] <nullified> Heya guys, Just a quick question whats the command to list all HDD's currently plugged into the machine?
[03:33] <|Sivik|> fd -l
[03:33] <|Sivik|> fdisk -l*
[03:33] <liquidten2> nickrud:  It's been so long since i've used ubuntu that i forgot it doesn't come with GCC. <_<
[03:33] <|Sivik|> nullified: its fdisk -l
[03:33] <|Sivik|> -l (lowercase L)
[03:33] <nickrud> heh
[03:33] <liquidten2> nullified:  YOu could just do fdisk -l, or df -h, or cat /proc/mounts or....
[03:33] <needlez> :D thank again!
[03:33] <nullified> thats it, thanks guys
[03:33] <|Sivik|> liquidten2: that doesn't work if it isn't mounted
[03:33] <linux_galore> needlez: zen auto resets the USB connection when you unplug it
[03:34] <delmar> Ok so I just installed Thunderbird on my ubuntu system, pointed it to an imap server which is running exchange2k3...When I click on a message i get a completly different message in the preview window below it.   its like Thunderbird is requesting the wrong email when I click on it..... Email is displaying correctly for that email account if I use evolution and exchange protocol, outlook on windows, or outlook webmail.. but thunderbi
[03:34] <delmar> rd gets it all wrong.. any ideas?
[03:34] <needlez> now it is saying "error jukebox busy"
[03:34] <nickrud> delmar, is this the ubuntu thunderbird?
[03:34] <needlez> oh. nevermind.
[03:34] <delmar> nickrud, yep
[03:35] <linux_galore> needlez: kill the client start it again when you unplug it
[03:35] <delmar> nickrud, mozilla-thunderbird
[03:35] <delmar> nickrud, from the ubuntu package list etc
[03:35] <nickrud> delmar, there may be a bug filed about that, but I'd simply install the newer one.
[03:35] <delmar> nickrud, non-ubuntu one?
[03:36] <pnookster> rob_p: is my interfaces file a-ok then?
[03:36] <WillyTell> I have created a virtual machine for windows xp (using vmware server) but when it runs try to boot from the network... any idea?
[03:36] <nickrud> delmar, I sometimes troubleshoot with a big stick.
[03:36] <rob_p> pnookster:  Because you have both interfaces active, until your external interface is associated AND has been given IP and gateway settings, your machine has no default route.  This is what makes it difficult to configure NAT on an interface that is dynamically assigned it's settings.
[03:37] <pnookster> Ok.
[03:37] <altprsona> i have 5.1 installed, w/ kde added.  Screensavers bugged. only goes to black screen. checked the power settings... any ideas how to make em work?
[03:37] <twysted> WillyTell> mount the cd for xp, email vmware support if that doesnt work
[03:37] <pnookster> but my external interface is up and has an ip and gateway.
[03:37] <delmar> nickrud, i have a feeling that it's not talking the right kind of IMAP... i notice there is nowhere to tell Thunderbird what kind of IMAP it's talking to... and I know there are variations of the IMAP protocol between mail server products.
[03:37] <pnookster> I'm using that interface to connect to irc right now.
[03:37] <nickrud> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion <-- delmar I'd give that a go
[03:37] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i am able to downgrade the firmware
[03:37] <delmar> nickrud, dude.. i have a big stick right here for that reason :P
[03:37] <slfd2525> does anybody know of a good graphic equalizer program?
[03:37] <delmar> nickrud, mint. ill see about that
[03:37] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: thats cool, might need a win98 machine though
[03:37] <pnookster> once I pull up eth0, though, I lose access to the internet.
[03:38] <|Sivik|> now, its working in xp to do it
[03:38] <sol_> hello room
[03:38] <|Sivik|> its just taking a minute to work
[03:38] <pnookster> slfd2525: the only one i know of is xmms-infinity i think it's called
[03:39] <sol_> anyone know what the default mysql password is ubuntu
[03:39] <slfd2525> ok, in the package manager?
[03:39] <steve_> cdrom burn in data to allow further additions
[03:39] <WillyTell> twysted, ok... I'll try to follow your advice. Thanks!
[03:39] <rob_p> pnookster:  I'm guessing that the system is confusing it's gateway when that interface comes up.
[03:39] <steve_> how to?
[03:39] <twysted> is there anyway in ubuntu/debian to black list a program so it is never installed via apt?
[03:39] <twysted> np sir
[03:39] <sol_> root? anyone know what the default mysql password is ubuntu
[03:39] <twysted> sol_> its blank
[03:39] <pnookster> rob_p: okay. so what should I set the gateway to for eth0?
[03:39] <sol_> no pass or login?
[03:40] <twysted> sol_ jus put root for the username and no password
[03:40] <sol_> i tried that
[03:40] <sol_> maybe i forgot my shiat when i installed
[03:40] <twysted> sol_ you may have set a password then, google 'mysqld reset password'
[03:40] <sol_> thx
[03:41] <steve_> sorry to intrude but can anyone tell how to cdrom burn in data to allow further additions
[03:41] <rob_p> pnookster:  eth0 should NOT have a default gateway listed.  You want your system to use your wireless interface (or at least an IP that is accessible from it) for it's default.
[03:41] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: just noticed the "new" version of gnomad has MTP now
[03:41] <pnookster> Right.
[03:41] <pnookster> so I should take that line out.
[03:41] <|Sivik|> then why didn't it work when i plugged it in
[03:41] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: what version of gnomad2 do you have
[03:41] <|Sivik|> the one i just installed via apt-get
[03:41] <sol_> its giving me this error   #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[03:41] <|Sivik|> let me look
[03:41] <rob_p> pnookster:  Maybe I missed it but did you have a gateway listed?
[03:41] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: and did you try sudo gnomad2
[03:41] <pnookster> Yeah.
[03:41] <|Sivik|> i was already in root
[03:42] <|Sivik|> i hate doing the darn sudo all the bloody time
[03:42] <rob_p> brb...
[03:42] <twysted> sol_ make sure mysql is running =p properly i may add
[03:42] <sol_> i hate bein noot
[03:42] <pnookster> sweet. brought eth0 up, and internet's still working. now to get it to nat properly.
[03:42] <sol_> noob   and how do i do that lol
[03:42] <sol_> i just installed it should i restart
[03:42] <steve_> How do I cdrom burn in data to allow further additions???
[03:42] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: you need ver 2.8.3 for MTP
[03:43] <grout58> can I connect to my router using wifi encrypted in wpa in ubuntu?
[03:43] <|Sivik|> well, its too late now
[03:43] <steve_> noob here ya know
[03:43] <|Sivik|> grout58: if you have the wpasuppliment installed in ubuntu
[03:43] <|Sivik|> to be able to use wpa
[03:43] <rob_p> pnookster:  I gotta take care of something for a few minutes.  I'll give a shout when I return...
[03:43] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: Im running 2.8.0 because I had issues with 2.8.3
[03:43] <nickrud> steve_, the drag & drop cd burner in the filemanager doesn't support multisession
[03:43] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:44] <pnookster> alright. thanks so much for your help.
[03:44] <sol_> how do i start mysql in ubunto
[03:44] <pnookster> i'll keep budging around with it
[03:44] <steve_> thanksx alot now I know
[03:44] <grout58> ok thanks
[03:44] <steve_> saved me a lot of time
[03:44] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: how do i tell what version i'm running
[03:44] <pnookster> sweet! I can ping out from that computer.
[03:44] <pnookster> Now to get bind9 working right.
[03:44] <pnookster> >_>
[03:44] <|Sivik|> its 2.8.1
[03:45] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: when you start gnomad2 it tells you in the top of the window  gnomad2 2.8.0
[03:45] <|Sivik|> i think it just worked
[03:45] <|Sivik|> yes, i have 2.8.1
[03:45] <disturbed> Ok Intellectually filled people, I need some.. MAJOR.. attention... and MAJOR... help...
[03:45] <|Sivik|> disturbed: what is it?
[03:46] <nickrud> pnookster, if it's only for your local network, you might like dnsmasq
[03:46] <|Sivik|> got it
[03:46] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i'm in
[03:46] <pnookster> hmm... i'll look into i
[03:46] <liquidten2> disturbed:  I'm INTELLECTUALLY FILLED!
[03:46] <disturbed> |sivik| Ok.. I have TWO.. Ubuntu drives... The other one, is my main drive, it worked GREAT... until I tried to play Wolfenstein, and had to install the nVidia driver, and I followed the instructions.. apparently a bad idea..
[03:46] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: well thats two people Im on a roll lol
[03:46] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: thanks
[03:46] <|Sivik|> !nvidia
[03:46] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:47] <disturbed> |sivik| as I rebooted to hopefully be able to "play" wolfenstein enemy territory... I was dumbfounded, when I came across the "xserver" error...
[03:47] <|Sivik|> disturbed: did you follow that howto in order to do that
[03:47] <|Sivik|> what nvidia card?
[03:47] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: 2.8.3 I found has some broken buttons
[03:47] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:47] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: well, i'm in with 1.11 firmware and 2.8.1
[03:47] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: yeah same as me pretty much, rock solid
[03:47] <|Sivik|> and ti works
[03:47] <disturbed> |sivik| I didn't miss a step, but now my "startx" won't work.. because it wont put the display manager.. it has an error, DUE to, I edited the xorg Config file, as I was instructed to do.
[03:48] <|Sivik|> disturbed: what did you follow to get the nvidia to work and what card is it
[03:48] <liquidten2> disturbed:  What is your error, and post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere.  Like the pastebin.
[03:48] <|Sivik|> disturbed: i used the howto i just showed you the url
[03:48] <|Sivik|> disturbed: and mine works
[03:48] <ubuntu> Hi
[03:48] <|Sivik|> disturbed: what card?
[03:49] <disturbed> |sivik| I don't recall the exact website I followed... it was a Forum somewhere.
[03:49] <|Sivik|> !tell disturbed about nvidia
[03:49] <linux_galore> goto be careful with the nvidia stuff if you have an older card and use the new driver it tanks
[03:49] <liquidten2> disturbed:  what is the error and what does /etc/X11/xorg.conf look like
[03:49] <|Sivik|> follow the howto i just sent you
[03:49] <disturbed> |sivik| not sure on the card, but it was ripped out of a Dell 9800 P4 PC that was customized.. it's a 64MB.. probably a TNT2
[03:49] <ubuntu> How can i burn iso with live cd?
[03:49] <ubuntu> thanks.
[03:49] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: i don't think you can
[03:49] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: now i just have to figure out how to use gnomad2
[03:49] <rob_p> pnookster:  So you're up and running ok with NAT I presume?
[03:50] <linux_galore> disturbed: what driver did you use ie what version
[03:50] <disturbed> liquidten2 I cannot tell you the error exactly unless I reboot to that drive to tell you what it says, it will not load, for me to get the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, unless there is another way...(Very very linux illiterate here..)
[03:50] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, any solution?
[03:50] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: burn with an os that is actually installed on the hd
[03:50] <pnookster> yah. I can ping out via ip address but not domain name
[03:50] <disturbed> linux_galore I used the latest one from nVidia.com under the Linux section.
[03:50] <|Sivik|> disturbed: follow the bloody url i just sent to your pm
[03:50] <|Sivik|> !nvidia
[03:50] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:50] <|Sivik|> that one
[03:50] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, i delete that partition that
[03:51] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: then your probably screwed
[03:51] <ubuntu> deleted
[03:51] <|Sivik|> disturbed: the forums are usually weird
[03:51] <linux_galore> disturbed: theres your mistake you need to use the "old" version usually 71** or 76** because TNT is a very old card and doesnt support the pixel shading stuff in the new driver
[03:51] <disturbed> |Sivik| Gah.. I cannot boot on the drive that needs the driver, listed in the 'bloody' pm.
[03:51] <liquidten2> disturbed:  Do you have physical access to this drive?  if so, what is it?  (hda2, hda3, hdb1, hdb2, etc)
[03:51] <liquidten2> Also, do a "sudo lspci -v"
[03:51] <rob_p> pnookster:  Set the DNS settings on the internal client PCs, to the DNS IPs of your ISP and you should be set.
[03:52] <liquidten2> disturbed: and check to see what your card actually is
[03:52] <|Sivik|> disturbed: uh, you can copy that file over once you download it and then use the recovery console to install it
[03:52] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, how good ubuntu for LCD monitor?
[03:52] <disturbed> Uhm... if I remember correctly, does hdb0 look good?... well, I only have 2 drives, and it is the main one.
[03:52] <linux_galore> disturbed: bet you got a 8*** driver so its tanking
[03:52] <WillyTell> twysted, you are right! I am a complete beginner..... I have mounted the windows CD and all is going well. I needed just a little help. Thanks a lot!
[03:52] <rob_p> pnookster:  You can setup a DHCP server on the gateway machine that will assign all that stuff for you.
[03:52] <disturbed> |sivik| again, I'm linux Illiterate.
[03:52] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: depends on the video card
[03:52] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: what video card do you have?
[03:52] <disturbed> GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[03:53] <ubuntu> yes
[03:53] <linux_galore> disturbed: the file you downloaded from nvidia what the version number
[03:53] <ubuntu> disturbed, how did you know?
[03:53] <disturbed> linux_galore give me a second, I'll link you.
[03:53] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: did you have windows on that computer with the save video card
[03:53] <|Sivik|> ubuntu:lspci
[03:53] <pnookster> excelent! works! :DD
[03:53] <disturbed> ubuntu I was posting, my video card.. sorry..
[03:53] <ubuntu> that is mine
[03:53] <pnookster> i haven't had internet on my desktop in three weeks, eheh. thanks for your help so much!
[03:53] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: go to konsole or terminla and do the lspci
[03:53] <|Sivik|> terminal*
[03:54] <wizzlefish> will upgrading to Dapper be exactly like install Ubuntu for the first time?
[03:54] <|Sivik|> !tell wizzlefish about dapper
[03:54] <ubuntu> lspci
[03:54] <|Sivik|> yes
[03:54] <ubuntu> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)
[03:54] <|Sivik|> !upgrade
[03:54] <disturbed> linux_galore http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html ---
[03:54] <|Sivik|> !upgradetodapper
[03:54] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, |Sivik|
[03:54] <linux_galore> disturbed: was the driver a 8*** number
[03:54] <rob_p> pnookster:  I use dhcp3-server on my gateway machine.  It serves up all the IP, default gateway, DNS settings, etc. for all my internal PCs.  Works out pretty slick.
[03:54] <danl> is there an easy way to delete a massive amount of files, say 270,000? rm returns that the argument list is to long when i use the * operator
[03:55] <|Sivik|> !update
[03:55] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, |Sivik|
[03:55] <linux_galore> disturbed: ok that driver is for a 6200 or better
[03:55] <|Sivik|> !upgrade
[03:55] <disturbed> linux_galore by the way, did you notice my video card, is a GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[03:55] <linux_galore> disturbed: I have a MX400
[03:55] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: what is that command to upgrade to dapper
[03:55] <|Sivik|> tell wizzlefish
[03:55] <Badm4n> hello any1 know the good pop3 mail catcher for my ubuntu server ? ( i want to download my email from my other mail server ) but it can use with webbased interface
[03:55] <rob_p> pnookster:  Anyway, looks like you've got a handle on it now so I'll leave you to your exploration...  :-)
[03:55] <linux_galore> disturbed:  you need the 76** driver from the nvidia page
[03:55] <disturbed> linux_galore Ok, question now, how do I go about fixing the xorg file so I can even boot up on my other drive?...
[03:55] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)
[03:55] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: put cd in tray lol
[03:56] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: do what?
[03:56] <liquidten2> disturbed:  Just boot up on your other drive <_<
[03:56] <pnookster> thanks again! <3
[03:56] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: no, i'm trying to copy music from the hd to the zen
[03:56] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: I never do apt-get upgrade  because it breaks
[03:56] <disturbed> liquidten2 won't boot, xserver doesn't load.
[03:56] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, ?
[03:56] <|Sivik|> the dpkg one
[03:56] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, how about that card?
[03:56] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: ooh ok if you look you have two windows
[03:56] <liquidten2> disturbed:  you don't need xserver to boot though.  you can still edit the file by loging in through the terminal, and then doing a "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:57] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: yes
[03:57] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: the left is your hardisk the right is the zen hardisk
[03:57] <liquidten2> disturbed: you could also do an apt-get install lynx so that you have a browser to use to help you.
[03:57] <disturbed> liquidten2 See, I'm a Linux Illiterate Newb...
[03:57] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: ok
[03:57] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: that makes sense
[03:57] <disturbed> liquidten2 Ok, so, reboot onto my other drive, type in "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... and then what?
[03:58] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: no you will see two arrows in the middle <=   =>  you use them to transfer highlighted songs too and from the hardisks
[03:58] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, how about that card?
[03:58] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: so in the gnomad2 windows, the left is the hd and the right is the mp3 player
[03:58] <linux_galore> now*
[03:58] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:58] <liquidten2> disturbed:  Wait, what does fdisk -l say, and then what does df -h say.  Also, these are two hard drives in the same PC right?
[03:58] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, hi
[03:58] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: patience, let me look
[03:58] <Badm4n> hello any1 know the good pop3 mail catcher for my ubuntu server ? ( i want to download my email from my other mail server ) but it can use with webbased interface
[03:58] <ubuntu> thanks
[03:59] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: up the top right you can change the path on your system hardisk
[03:59] <liquidten2> disturbed:  or rather, what does 'sudo fdisk -l" say >_>
[03:59] <PORDO> has anyone gotten tapioca to run?
[03:59] <disturbed> fdisk -l says nothing, and df-h says that I'm on hdb1, and this is my 2ndary hdd, and yes, 2 harddrives in the same PC...(3 actually, but the 3rd has yet to be formatted)
[03:59] <liquidten2> disturbed:  ok then try this
[03:59] <disturbed> whats the link to Pastebin, and I'll show you fdisk
[03:59] <liquidten2> disturbed:  "sudo mkdir hda1"    "sudo mount /dev/hda1 hda1"
[04:00] <liquidten2> disturbed:  "sudo gedit hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[04:00] <disturbed> sweet, it worked.
[04:00] <disturbed> But.
[04:00] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: if you highlight one song then press the shift, down arrow then click on the  => arrow in the middle, it will bulk copy songs across
[04:00] <disturbed> I'm on hda1.. >.<
[04:00] <disturbed> the problem, revolves in hda0
[04:01] <liquidten2> disturbed:  there is no hda0 >_>
[04:01] <disturbed> well.. ergh..
[04:01] <liquidten2> did my last command bring up an xorg.conf?
[04:01] <disturbed> when I go to boot on my other harddrive.. (the one that's currupt).. I have to go into BIOS and select harddrive 0
[04:01] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: if you on USB 1 like me though it can be slow
[04:01] <disturbed> yes.
[04:01] <liquidten2> Then you're fine
[04:02] <disturbed> it brought up the one within' hda1, in which I am on..
[04:02] <disturbed> because my name on both harddrives, are different, this one is Disturbed, the other one is Pyrotic..
[04:02] <liquidten2> You're fine
[04:02] <disturbed> Ok.
[04:02] <liquidten2> what does /etc/mtab say then
[04:02] <liquidten2> You hsould have an hdb and an hda
[04:02] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: the second tab allows you to manage your playlist names  ie add edit rename create new ones
[04:03] <ubuntu> on Ubuntu 5.04
[04:03] <disturbed> Whats the link to pastebin.. and I'll show you what mtab says
[04:03] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: downoad http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-4349.html
[04:03] <ubuntu> what command to mount a fat32 ?
[04:03] <liquidten2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:03] <liquidten2> also paste in the xorg.conf file.
[04:03] <Badm4n> ubuntu webmail can pop3
[04:03] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, is it driver for my card?
[04:03] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: yes
[04:03] <linux_galore> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1  /windows
[04:04] <ubuntu> thanks |Sivik|
[04:04] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: yw
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> Badm4n: Uh, what?
[04:04] <nickrud> Badm4n, ditto
[04:04] <|Sivik|> ubunut: you know you have to chmod +x filename.run before you can install right
[04:04] <Badm4n> hello any1 know the good pop3 mail catcher for my ubuntu server ? ( i want to download my email from my other mail server ) but it can use with webbased interface
[04:04] <linux_galore> ubuntu make sure /windows exists before you run it though ie mkdir /windows
[04:04] <Badm4n> tonyyarusso
[04:05] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: does that make sense
[04:05] <ubuntu> linux_galore, i am on live cd
[04:05] <ubuntu> and it ask me root
[04:05] <disturbed> linux_galore ok, here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13954
[04:05] <twysted> ubuntu> use sudo
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> Badm4n: Hmm, not really sure, but 'apt-cache search webmail pop3' returns a handful of results that you might want to look at/
[04:06] <ubuntu> thanks
[04:06] <linux_galore> disturbed: did you install the old 76** series nvidia driver like i said
[04:06] <disturbed> linux_galore no because I could not locate it.
[04:07] <liquidten2> disturbed: ok, you are fine
[04:07] <Badm4n> any1 have other idea with spesific packaged ?
[04:07] <linux_galore> disturbed: let me get the link
[04:07] <Badm4n> btw thx tonyyarusso
[04:07] <liquidten2> disturbed:  The geforce 2 mx 400 IS supported in new releases
[04:07] <liquidten2> as far as i know that is
[04:07] <liquidten2> disturbed:  post your /home/disturbed/hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf file in the pastebin
[04:07] <disturbed> liquidten2 Oh, Ok. well.. hat do I do to fix the xserver error at boot...
[04:07] <disturbed> k. one sec.
[04:08] <nickrud> Badm4n, a common path is fetchmail to get mail off the server, running a mail server with procmail to drop mail into an IMAP mail store. A lot of web mail interfaces can read that well
[04:08] <disturbed> liquidten2 but isn't it hdb1 the xorg.conf file I want?
[04:08] <liquidten2> nope
[04:08] <linux_galore> disturbed: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7664.html
[04:08] <Badm4n> ok ok thx
[04:08] <disturbed> liquidten2 because it's my other harddrive that won't boot because of the server error...
[04:08] <disturbed> linux_galore ok thanks
[04:08] <ubuntu> twysted: hi, what is password of root?
[04:09] <Badm4n> btw when i install apache2 why it would run my curl script ? ( when i use xampp it's working ) &  why when i open http://192.168.1.254/~team it always rekuest to download my index.php.... but if i type http://192.168.1.254/~team/index.php it show my webpage
[04:09] <liquidten2> http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html
[04:09] <Kadran> ubuntu: the root acount is disabled by default
[04:09] <liquidten2> Geforce 2 MX 400 is DEFINATLEY on that list
[04:09] <liquidten2> unless my eyes are deceiving me
[04:09] <disturbed> liquidten2 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13955
[04:09] <twysted> ubuntu> no root password use sudo
[04:09] <Kadran> ubuntu: you don't neet root, just type sudo
[04:10] <linux_galore> liquidten2: yeah but doesnt work trust me i have the card, also the 5200 card sux too and thats on the same list for the 8*** series drivers
[04:10] <ubuntu> thanks
[04:10] <liquidten2> linux_galore: i have a 5200 and am running 8178 on 2.6.16.16, at perfect speeds to, or as perfect as i can with this card
[04:10] <Kadran> ubuntu: you are welcome
[04:10] <dudemanbro> when i install programs, like kaptain, where should i unpack the files?
[04:11] <ubuntu> why my discs show as hdd5, hdd6, .. that is not hda5, hda6, ..?
[04:11] <linux_galore> use a 8*** series nvidia driver with a 5200 card and its slow as snot, swap back to the older 76** or 71** driver and its quick as hell
[04:11] <Kadran> hi i have installed windows and need grub to add it to the boot menu?
[04:11] <twysted> Kadran> did you install windows before or after ubuntu
[04:11] <delmar> nickrud, well.. that didn't seem to help at all. on top of that the menu button to run thunderbird is broken now... but im sure thats easily fixed.. but the same problem occurs.. click on an email in the top window.. and the preview pane is showing something totally different.
[04:11] <Kadran> ubuntu: that's mean you have 4 ide device
[04:12] <Kadran> twysted: windows after kubuntu
[04:12] <dudemanbro> does anyone know where new programs should be unpacked?
[04:12] <ubuntu> twysted, only ubuntu
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> Kadran: update-grub?
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> dudemanbro: What do you mean?
[04:12] <twysted> Kadran> your suppose to install windows THEN ubuntu, but you can do a update-grub
[04:12] <ubuntu> Kadran, all them are on the same partition
[04:12] <twysted> ubuntu> change your damn nick i wasnt talking to you
[04:12] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, so i dld kaptain, and i was wondering where i should put it when i unpack it
[04:13] <disturbed> liquidten2 did you check the xorg file?
[04:13] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, like is there a folder where all this stuff is supposed to go?
[04:13] <twysted> dudemanbro> is it a deb file?
[04:13] <liquidten2> disturbed: i can't really guess what the error is based on that file.  It looks OK from what i can see, so the only thing i can figure is that there was an error while installing the nvidia driver.  You're going to have to reboot and memorize the error
[04:13] <nickrud> delmar, a sec
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> dudemanbro: What type of file did you download?  I'm not sure what you mean by unpack.
[04:13] <dudemanbro> twysted, no, .tar.gz
[04:13] <Kadran> twysted: i have done update grub the cat menu.lst but now windows there
[04:13] <liquidten2> disturbed: wait, post /home/disturbed/hda1/var/log/Xorg.log
[04:13] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, sorry, im really new at this
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell dudemanbro about compile
[04:14] <twysted> dudemanbro see if you can sudo apt-get install kaptain
[04:14] <ubuntu> twysted, sorry
[04:14] <disturbed> liquidten2 k. hold on
[04:14] <vbgunz> how do you make qt apps on Gnome look native?
[04:14] <twysted> Kadran> k cool
[04:14] <rob_p> dudemanbro:  There's an easier way...  Just do, "sudo apt-get install kaptain" at the command line.  That will install the one specifically compiled for Ubuntu.
[04:14] <disturbed> nothing there... ???
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> dudemanbro: twysted's right.  It's available.  You can throw the .tar.gz away.
[04:14] <needlez> this is going to seem like a really dumb question, but how do i switch my clock from military to 12 hour?
[04:14] <dudemanbro> ok
[04:14] <Kadran> ubuntu: the ??a, ??b, ??c, d?? are the name of devices, and 1,2,3,4,5,7,are the partitions
[04:14] <liquidten2> ok...
[04:14] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, normally, where do these programs go?
[04:15] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, like which folders on my computer?
[04:15] <Munchkinguy> Why doesn't abiword come with a grammar checker in Ubuntu?
[04:15] <Kadran> twysted: what do you mean?
[04:15] <PORDO> can someone tell me whether you have this library on your computer?  libdbus-glib-1.so.2
[04:15] <PORDO> i have  libdbus-glib-1.so.1
[04:15] <PORDO> i need  libdbus-glib-1.so.2
[04:15] <twysted> Kadran> you said windows is there now correct?
[04:15] <liquidten2> disturbed: ok then, what IS in /home/disturbed/hda1/var/log ?  do an ls /home/disturbed/hda1/var/log
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> dudemanbro: Not just one place.  /usr/bin, /usr/lib, and /etc all have important pieces.
[04:15] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/hd*
[04:15] <ubuntu> /dev/hdc  /dev/hdd  /dev/hdd1  /dev/hdd2  /dev/hdd5  /dev/hdd6  /dev/hdd7
[04:15] <ubuntu> Kadran,
[04:15] <Kadran> twysted: no it is not in menu.lst :(
[04:16] <crimsun> PORDO: are you using breezy?
[04:16] <twysted> Kadran> ah ok
[04:16] <PORDO> crimsun yeah.
[04:16] <crimsun> PORDO: it's in dapper, which means you need to dist-upgrade to dapper
[04:16] <linux_galore> PORDO: dbus is version specific
[04:16] <liquidten2> disturbed: there should be SOME Xorg related file in there, post whatever seems likely.  (It could also be Xorg.0.log or something like that)
[04:16] <PORDO> crimsun dapper is out?
[04:16] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, thanks
[04:16] <ubuntu> Kadran, that is ??d
[04:16] <crimsun> PORDO: ~3 weeks
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> PORDO: Beta.
[04:16] <twysted> Kadran> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto
[04:16] <PORDO> argh.
[04:16] <disturbed> liquidten2 there is xorg.0.log, and xorg.0.log.old
[04:16] <Kadran> ubuntu: i don't know but may be your harddisk is secondary master
[04:16] <Madpilot> PORDO, released June 1st - beta release is out now
[04:17] <Jasey> hiya, heres my problem. im trying to install dapper on a pc which has a nvidia geforce xm4000 graphics card. nothing displays O_o this is using the desktop live cd. any ideas??
[04:17] <needlez> anyone know how to change the clock from military to 12 hour?
[04:17] <PORDO> i think i accidentalyl installed .debs for tapioca for dapper.  how could i remove the versions i installed?
[04:17] <Kadran> twysted: thanks i will check it out
[04:17] <liquidten2> disturbed: post the /home/disturbed/hda1/var/log/xorg.0.log
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> needlez: Right-click, preferences.
[04:17] <linux_galore> Jasey: what version of the driver did you download
[04:17] <disturbed> liquidten2 ok, one sec.
[04:17] <Jasey> well none.
[04:17] <Madpilot> needlez, right-click on the clock, select Preferences
[04:17] <Madpilot> needlez, switch it from "24hr" to "12hr"
[04:18] <Jasey> oh wait a tick i have the linux drivers from the site
[04:18] <___gn0m3___> 961331654666666666666666666666666665843186713
[04:18] <crimsun> PORDO: use synaptic/aptitude/apt-get to remove them
[04:18] <linux_galore> Jasey: aaah this is the live cd
[04:18] <___gn0m3___> PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
[04:18] <Jasey> yes
[04:18] <Kadran> ubuntu: i c that you have windows c: and d:  linux root, swap and home and got a cdrom
[04:18] <needlez> thank you :) i wasnt right clicking...i was left clicking and going into preferences. lol
[04:18] <needlez> the simplest things are the things you dont think of
[04:18] <slackern> tonyyarusso, darn they still using that kind of torture equipment? :)
[04:19] <disturbed> liquidten2 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13956 - there you are.
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> needlez: Hehe, yeah.
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> slackern: Yep.  It's cheap.
[04:19] <ubuntu> Kadran, correct
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> slackern: And my government's all over torture anyway, so maybe it will make a comeback.
[04:19] <liquidten2>  (WW)Warning,couldn'topenmodulenvidia
[04:19] <liquidten2> that's never good
[04:19] <slackern> tonyyarusso, aye thats true, wish i had a phoneline to use when the regular isp goes down or something.
[04:20] <Munchkinguy> tonyyarusso: While you're waiting for that upgrade, perhaps you could tell me how to get the Grammar Checker plugin for Abiword.
[04:20] <apokryphos> good ol' Ubugtu
[04:20] <disturbed> liquidten2 yea' nothing I do is ever good.. my latest error was.. "Cannot complete task, too far in the future"... *rolls eyes*
[04:20] <ubuntu> ok
[04:20] <linux_galore> disturbed: sound like you didnt install the driver
[04:20] <ubuntu> on live cd 5.04 , how can resize ntfs partition?
[04:20] <ubuntu> is it possible?
[04:20] <disturbed> linux_galore knowing me, Probably not... >.<... did all that the forum dude man sir person said..
[04:20] <crimsun> ubuntu: ntfsresize
[04:20] <needlez> oh, this may seem like a tricky question. and i dont even know if it is possible, but i have a microsoft multimedia keyboard (i can control winamp and stuff like volume, pause, play, stop, forward, and backwards in my playlist from my keyboard) does anyone know if i can use these features with linux?
[04:20] <PORDO> crimsun do you feel that dapper is stable enough to be usable right now?  i know that's a vague question...
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> Munchkinguy: Wish I could - OOo guy myself.  I'll look around though.
[04:21] <crimsun> PORDO: yes
[04:21] <liquidten2> disturbed:  Ok, i can tell you how to REVERT what you previously did at least.  just edit your /home/disturbed/hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace "nvidia" with "nv" and delete "load "glx""
[04:21] <crimsun> PORDO: for /many/ (not all) people
[04:21] <liquidten2> so then you can at least boot into your other hard drive
[04:21] <ubuntu> crimsun, sudo ntfsresize?
[04:21] <paradizelost> needlez: IIRC, xev will give you the code that the keys do
[04:21] <disturbed> liquidten2 Ok, and that should fix the other boot though?
[04:21] <Madpilot> needlez, you should be able to, yes
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> PORDO: Yes, if you speak English or most Western languages.  I think they're still putting work in on Asian ones.  (?)
[04:21] <liquidten2> yeah
[04:21] <needlez> paradizelost, what?
[04:21] <crimsun> ubuntu: roughly, check the man page
[04:21] <liquidten2> disturbed:  If you edit the file inside hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf, and save it, you will be able to boot back in to that hard drive
[04:22] <ohzie> Has anybody gotten E17 to run 'easily' on their system>?
[04:22] <needlez> madpilot, would you know how?
[04:22] <delmar> so thats it.... if I go afk and the cat jumps up on here and sits on the keyboard... ill get banned and kicked? ...damn cat. lol :P
[04:22] <paradizelost> needlez: open a terminal, and run "xev"
[04:22] <needlez> how do i run xev?
[04:22] <ohzie> delmar: xlock. :D
[04:22] <paradizelost> then press the key, it will tell you the code for the button press and the button release
[04:22] <paradizelost> OPEN AN XTERM
[04:22] <paradizelost> a console of some sort
[04:22] <delmar> ohzie, ah yes. good idea
[04:22] <ubuntu> crimsun, i am newbie
[04:22] <PORDO> oh that's a bummer.  i'm chinese and speaking terminated a galactic translator.
[04:22] <crimsun> ubuntu: then you might try gparted
[04:22] <paradizelost> /ignore ubuntu
[04:22] <ubuntu> crimsun, don't want my ntfs corrupt
[04:23] <odyssey> do you guys know what is a good dvd cpoy software
[04:23] <linux_galore> does the easyubuntu script install the nvidia drivers or does only automatix do that
[04:23] <needlez> paradizelost, how do i run xev (total newbie here)
[04:23] <ohzie> !E17
[04:23] <paradizelost> needlez: open a console
[04:23] <Munchkinguy> tonyyarusso: the "abiword-plugins" package doesn't seem to come with it
[04:23] <needlez> did that
[04:23] <disturbed> liquidten2 Ok.. I edited it, there wasn't any "load" in there, but I dleeted glx, and put in "nv"...
[04:23] <paradizelost> needlez: and type "xev"  press enter
[04:23] <disturbed> liquidten2.. so save it... and reboot to my other drive now?
[04:23] <ubuntu> paradizelost: :(
[04:23] <kbrooks> linux_galore: easyubuntu too
[04:23] <twysted> ohzie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingE17Howto
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> Munchkinguy: All right (Googling...)
[04:24] <needlez> paradizelost, i did that, and a little box popped up
[04:24] <disturbed> liquidten2 or should I pastebin it for you to double check *blush*
[04:24] <dudemanbro> if i download a program, in a tar.gz format, where is a good place to put it on my computer so i can compile it?
[04:24] <liquidten2> disturbed: do that
[04:24] <linux_galore> disturbed: try using the easyubuntu script
[04:24] <PORDO> so to upgrade, i just change "breezy" to "dapper" ?
[04:24] <paradizelost> needlez: now press the key you want to know what it does
[04:24] <kingspawn> dudemanbro: somewhere temporary in your homedir
[04:24] <paradizelost> and it will give you the keycode
[04:24] <disturbed> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13958
[04:24] <twysted> dudemanbro> i avoid downloading tar.gz since apt has alot of the programs already for ubuntu, but i usually but them in my home directory and compile from there
[04:24] <slicslak> what package do i need to compile things?
[04:25] <liquidten2> linux_galore:  Also, isn't there somethign called automaticks in Ubuntu that can automatically install Nvidia driverss?
[04:25] <dudemanbro> kingspawn, then where should i extract the files?
[04:25] <twysted> PORDO> and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:25] <dudemanbro> twysted, i checked using apt-cache search pplin
[04:25] <kbrooks> liquidten2: its not "in ubuntu"
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> slicslak: build-essential
[04:25] <PORDO> twysted right
[04:25] <PORDO> thx
[04:25] <dudemanbro> twysted, the program i want asnt there
[04:25] <needlez> paradizelost, well i have a "play/pause" key on my keyboard, and i am hitting it, but nothing is happening
[04:25] <kingspawn> dudemanbro: like I said, somewhere in your homedirectory
[04:25] <liquidten2> kbrooks: excuse me, "for" ubuntu
[04:25] <kbrooks> liquidten2: it's not "bundled" in ubuntu
[04:25] <slicslak> liquidten2, linux_galore use easy ubuntu rather than automatix
[04:25] <slicslak> tonyyarusso, thanks
[04:25] <kbrooks> liquidten2: it exists. but its unsafe
[04:25] <PORDO> WELL, UPdate first
[04:25] <kbrooks> bb;
[04:25] <kbrooks> bbl
[04:26] <dudemanbro> kingspawn, but doesnt that mean that eventually ill have a whole bunch of crap in there from different programs?
[04:26] <PORDO> i can't wait to try out tapioca!
[04:26] <crimsun> kbrooks: have you generated an easyubuntu deb yet?
[04:26] <kingspawn> dudemanbro: well, after compiling and installing you can delete the source code if thats your fancy
[04:26] <dudemanbro> kingspawn, is there like a C:/Program Files folder equivalent?
[04:26] <dudemanbro> kingspawn,
[04:26] <dudemanbro> oh
[04:26] <dudemanbro> ok
[04:26] <kbrooks> crimsun: not yet, tomorrow
[04:26] <disturbed> liquidten2 does it look right before I save it?
[04:26] <linux_galore> disturbed: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[04:26] <kingspawn> dudemanbro: just make /home/dudemanbro/programfiles  :)
[04:26] <disturbed> linux_galore what is that for?
[04:26] <dudemanbro> kingspawn, im really new to this, so i wasnt sure
[04:26] <PORDO> who's gonna buy the google/nokia thing?
[04:27] <Badm4n> urgent : how to cancel all email from post fix pls ( sorry OOT ) but urgent
[04:27] <liquidten2> disturbed: yes it looks fine.  You might also want to remove "Section DRI" too
[04:27] <dudemanbro> kingspawn, so then dont i have to copy the executable somewhere to use it from any location in the terminal?
[04:27] <linux_galore> disturbed: its a program that installs things like java/nvidia drivers/flash/codecs  for you
[04:27] <liquidten2> disturbed:  Remove everything from "Section DRI" to "endsection"  those 3 lines
[04:27] <liquidten2> then save and reboot
[04:27] <disturbed> liquidten2 Ok, did.
[04:27] <disturbed> linux_galore Ok, which one should I install?
[04:27] <disturbed> linux_galore Beta?..
[04:28] <disturbed> liquidten2 Thanks for your help, I hope it works!
[04:28] <disturbed> liquidten2 if it does not, you can guess I'll be back ;)
[04:28] <liquidten2> disturbed: ok, goodluck
[04:28] <linux_galore> disturbed: yes beta
[04:28] <disturbed> liquidten2 Thanks.. Brb!
[04:28] <disturbed> linux_galore Ok, I'll get it, thanks for your help as well, Brb!.
[04:28] <kingspawn> dudemanbro: the executable(s) are usually placed where they belong by doing "make install" after you have done "make2
[04:28] <kingspawn> s/"make2/"make"
[04:29] <konrad``> what is the package containing ruby's 'gem' called on ubuntu?
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> Why would my modem not be operating at peak capacity while trying to do an apt-get upgrade?  The system monitor is showing it at only about 1/4 speed.
[04:30] <julian> Hello, I had a quick question and was wondering if anyone had some ideas. I was installing ubuntucenter, and had all the dependencies installed, but apt claimed I needed libgd2-dev libgd2-noxpm libgd2-noxpm-dev
[04:30] <julian> , which conflicted with ubuntucenter and php-5, so I managed to ignore those and force the install of ubuntucenter, but now I can't do anything with apt at all. It says I need libgd2-dev libgd2-noxpm libgd2-noxpm-dev
[04:30] <julian>  Does anyone know how I can make apt ignore those?
[04:30] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: what type of connection and modem model
[04:30] <ubuntu> hi
[04:31] <twysted> tonyyarusso> it can be the mirror your downloading from is slow or your not being shown a correct connection speed (ie if your on a LAN your internet connection is not 100MBPS)
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore: 56k dialup, IBM integrated, Conexant chipset.  Driver from Linuxant, paid for full speed.  Can operate fully, just isn't atm.
[04:31] <ubuntu> Kadran, hi
[04:31] <linux_galore> julian: forcing stuff will break the install
[04:31] <julian> Oops
[04:31] <julian> lol
[04:32] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: ok easy, the free connexant driver is crippled intentionally by the maker
[04:32] <ubuntu> what command to format /dev/hdd5 with fs = vfat32?
[04:32] <Illnor> I've got a dualboot of XP and Ubuntu.. cannot get xorg.conf setup right with the video. In XP the screen is normal, but when I boot into Ubuntu, it doesn't change the monitor's FV as I specify it in the file, and thus the whole screen is moved over a little when i boot into ubuntu
[04:33] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore: I know, which is why I bought the full version.
[04:33] <Illnor> Like I set the FV to 60.2 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, yet when I check on my monitor it says the frequency is 60.5. It just doesn't listen to me :)
[04:34] <Kadran> hi ubuntu
[04:34] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: get a "real" hardware modem for less than the cost for a driver for a crippled connextent soft modem
[04:34] <ubuntu> Kadran,  what command to format /dev/hdd5 with fs = vfat32?
[04:35] <terribleCabbage> So, err, is Dapper stable enough to use as a primary desktop yet, now that they're in the final stages of testing in preparation for the June release, or should I stick with installing a Breezy desktop and upgrading in a month (I have no idea how easy that is).
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore: I don't think you're understanding...
[04:35] <Kadran> ubuntu: i think this will help you http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html
[04:35] <ubuntu> my modem detected by ubuntu "0000:02:02.0 Modem: ALi Corporation SmartLink SmartPCI561 56K Modem"
[04:35] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage, dapper seems fairly stable, but upgrading is usually very easy
[04:35] <terribleCabbage> Right-o.
[04:35] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: I do understand, conexant modems even in Linux are slow, they are slow in windows too, because there not real modems
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> terribleCabbage: Depends how critical of a computer you want to put it on.  I have it on my personal machine.  (But wouldn't run an e-commerce site on it)
[04:36] <terribleCabbage> Ah, ok. Yeah, personal machine here.
[04:36] <liquidten2> tonyyarusso:  linux_galore is correct, to unlock the "full" speed of those particular softmodems, you must purchase commercial drivers, and they suck anyway too.
[04:36] <terribleCabbage> Just upgraded hardware, etc, Red Hat 9 doesn't work on it anymore. :P
[04:36] <terribleCabbage> Heck, I want to try XGL anyway. ;)
[04:36] <linux_galore> liquidten2: he has the comercial driver, trust me its slow even with that
[04:37] <paradizelost> terribleCabbage: Xgl can be done on breezy.
[04:37] <paradizelost> i've done it
[04:37] <paradizelost> just rented AeonFlux
[04:37] <paradizelost> :D
[04:37] <terribleCabbage> All the guides appear to be for Dapper, mind. Hmm.
[04:37] <bradley_> hello all. i'm fairly new to linux and am trying to set up java. i've followed all the instructions in the wiki (i'm a cut and paste fella), but when i tried to install the package i recieved: errors were encountered while processing. does anyone have any info?
[04:37] <ubuntu> Kadran, mke2fs
[04:38] <terribleCabbage> bradley_: Which step did you end up at?
[04:38] <Kadran> ubuntu: however i prefer to do formating for fat32 by windows
[04:38] <Kadran> ubuntu : no this will make ext2 drive
[04:39] <bradley_> it said that the debian package had been created and i should install-- i assume this was very near the end, if not the last step
[04:39] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 you there?
[04:39] <Kadran> ubuntu: i don't know but i have once tried to do format a vfat32 from linux and windows wanted to format it again
[04:39] <xpc> re
[04:39] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: yeah
[04:39] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 Thanks for your help :).. it's me Disturbed
[04:39] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: also try connecting at 36800 not 56000  its not so prone to speed stepping down
[04:40] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: i take it you're in the other hard drive?
[04:40] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 Yep :D
[04:40] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 .. now that that is fixed.. I have other issue's.. like getting my printer hooked up... and getting the right driver for my video card so the game WolfET does work...
[04:40] <ubuntu> Kadran, thanks
[04:41] <Kadran> ubuntu: you are welcome
[04:41] <ubuntu> does ubuntu 5.04 ship with a cd burner?
[04:41] <linux_galore> ubuntu yes the file manager (nautilus) can burn cd's
[04:41] <paradizelost> ubuntu: is there a reason you are using 5.04 rather than 5.10 or 6.06?
[04:42] <bradley_> the wiki would lead me to believe that the problem occured somewhere between the last and second last: 'sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb' was the line where i encountered the problems
[04:42] <pyrotic2> Any printer smart people here?
[04:42] <nickrud> bradley_, could you put the error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:42] <sanmarcos> Hello, I am trobuled, when I try to boot into my system with a stock image kernel, I get stuck at Uncompressing Linux... Ok booting the kernel (even in single user) mode, this this not happen in older kernels, just now that it switched to initramfs-tools (i think), any ideas?
[04:42] <linux_galore> ubuntu if you have Kubuntu or the Kubuntu live cd you can use a cd/dvd burner called k3b   dead easy to use and looks a bit like nero
[04:42] <sanmarcos> try gnome bajer
[04:43] <bradley_> yah what is that link?
[04:43] <ubuntu> paradizelost, i have only 5.04 here.. (wish i have a fast internet)
[04:43] <liquidten2> pyrotic2:  what's your printer, how does it connect to your printer, etc?
[04:43] <paradizelost> k
[04:43] <gaby> buenas
[04:43] <liquidten2> pyrotic: errr... what type of connection is it...
[04:43] <gaby> soy usuario nuevo
[04:43] <Madpilot> !es
[04:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:44] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 Brother MFC-420CN... and USB...
[04:44] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 and it needs to be usable by a network computer, that is on XP Home.
[04:44] <gaby> quien me podria salvar
[04:44] <ubuntu> linux_galore thanks
[04:44] <gaby> mmm
[04:44] <liquidten2> pyrotic2:  heh..  You managed to post both a printer AND a company that i've never even heard of >_>
[04:44] <WillyTell> gaby, lee esto: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda
[04:44] <Madpilot> ubuntu, try just putting a blank CD in the drive - you should get a "what do you want to do with this blank CD" window (I think 5.04 does this, I know 5.10 does)
[04:44] <linux_galore> ubuntu you can get apt-get to install k3b for you
[04:45] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 ...lol...well damn... lol...
[04:45] <gaby> ok .. gracias
[04:45] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 I tried to network hook it up with the cups installer, but it didn't work too well as there isn't a driver listed for my printer.. :S
[04:45] <paradizelost> pyrotic2: what printer?
[04:45] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: it looks like it is linux compatible though, so you arE OK in that
[04:46] <pyrotic2> paradizelost Brother MFC-420CN
[04:46] <liquidten2> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Brother_MFC_420CN_Printer
[04:46] <Madpilot> pyrotic2, have you looked on linuxprinting.org for info on your printer?
[04:46] <liquidten2> that looks generic enough to also work in ubuntu
[04:46] <pyrotic2> madpilot no I have not... I figured sombody would have easy commands for it off hand, but I'm realizeing it's not that simple.
[04:46] <GTroy> how do I uninstall secondlife?
[04:46] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 thanks for the link, looks great!
[04:47] <GTroy> so I can reinstall it?
[04:47] <liquidten2> Does ubuntu come with a way to isntall rpm though?
[04:47] <Madpilot> pyrotic2, linuxprinting.org has a massive database of info
[04:47] <GTroy> liquidten2, there's alien
[04:47] <pyrotic2> madpilot well, if the link liquid sent me, does not work out for me, I will check there, thanks :)
[04:47] <Madpilot> liquidten2, you could use "alien" to convert to .deb - but that's a last resort, and not recommended...
[04:47] <GTroy> (I think)
[04:47] <liquidten2> it's just for somebody to install printer drivers though, so it should be ok
[04:48] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 amazingly enough, I already have the cupswrapper.. :)
[04:48] <liquidten2> do you have both MFC210Clpr-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm and cupswrapperMFC210C-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm
[04:48] <GTroy> anyone know how to uninstall an app called second life?
[04:49] <pyrotic2> no, I only have the cupswrapper210c
[04:49] <GTroy> !secondlife
[04:49] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GTroy
[04:49] <pyrotic2> actually I have the 420 cupswrapper
[04:49] <linux_galore> GTroy: locate secondlife|rm -rf
[04:49] <GTroy> thanks linux_galore
[04:49] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: Install those files, both of them, from http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html
[04:50] <linux_galore> GTroy: have to run sudo updatedb first
[04:50] <GTroy> ok
[04:50] <GTroy> updateb?
[04:50] <GTroy> or update?
[04:50] <linux_galore> GTroy: all one word  updatedb
[04:50] <liquidten2> GTroy: updatedb, as in update database
[04:50] <whiter> what the hell is compiz
[04:51] <GTroy> whiter: it's a desktop
[04:51] <terribleCabbage> A "desktop"? Care to clarify that a little? :\
[04:51] <thrice`> google will help
[04:51] <terribleCabbage> A Window-Manager, or an environment like Gnome?
[04:51] <nickrud> whiter, a tool needed to test the beta xgl desktops
[04:51] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 ok, I have the cupswrappermfc420 one, but I cannot find the first part of your previous question up there..
[04:51] <Munchkinguy> It's an OpenGL, XGL accelerated desktop
[04:52] <terribleCabbage> So it's something like xorg, then?
[04:52] <linux_galore> Munchkinguy: xgl doesnt define the desktop
[04:52] <Munchkinguy> I know
[04:52] <linux_galore> xgl is a server
[04:52] <nickrud> but implementation is everything :)
[04:52] <terribleCabbage> As much as I'd like it to, I can't get the wooden desk here to use OpenGL or XGL. Care to define "desktop"?
[04:53] <terribleCabbage> (In regards to compiz.)
[04:53] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreement/agreement.cgi?dlfile=http://solutions.brother.com/Library/sol/printer/linux/rpmfiles/cups_wrapper/cupswrappermfc3340cn_1.0.0-1_i386.deb&lang=English_gpl
[04:53] <Munchkinguy> But it does control the window manager and window decoratios.
[04:53] <liquidten2> download and install that
[04:53] <Munchkinguy> *decorations
[04:53] <slackern> terribleCabbage, http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz
[04:53] <linux_galore> terribleCabbage: I saw a really good suse howto on setting up xgl
[04:53] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 I found the 420cn version of it..
[04:54] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 I found the 420cn of both the cupswrapper and the other one.. (w/e the othe rone does)..
[04:54] <slackern> !xgl
[04:54] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:54] <terribleCabbage> Ah, a Window Manager. Got it.
[04:54] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: ok, then install those :)
[04:54] <voraistos> xgl was develloped by the company who owns suse
[04:54] <slackern> terribleCabbage, there you can see xgl+compiz in action
[04:54] <terribleCabbage> So I can't use Fluxbox? :(
[04:54] <Munchkinguy> linux_galore: Basically, it lets you do all the cool stuff that OSX's Aqua lets you do, but in GNOME or KDE
[04:54] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 lol, attempting now.
[04:54] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: the download button confused me, so i clicked the one for 3340 instead of 420 <_<
[04:54] <capgadget> I think only some things in gnome evenuse xgl right now
[04:54] <holycow> also you can get aiglx + compiz running on dapper ... albeit its all way too early even for alpha release
[04:54] <Android_D> how do I disable SELinux in ubuntu?
[04:54] <holycow> Android_D, what the heck do you mean?
[04:55] <whiter> oh
[04:55] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 lol, no worries, I got a pastebin for you though :)
[04:55] <holycow> there is no selinux components installed on ubuntu
[04:55] <whiter> my computer sucks too much for xgl
[04:55] <holycow> "are no"
[04:55] <ubuntu> hi, has ubuntu one downloader ?
[04:55] <Android_D> I want SELinux so be disabled
[04:55] <slackern> terribleCabbage, it's being developed for gnome for a start i belive but the skies the limit i guess :)
[04:55] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: ok >_>
[04:55] <bradley_> (i posted this message a while ago but was gone for a while while i tried (and failed! at) a couple of things so i'm reposting) hello all. i'm fairly new to linux and am trying to set up java. i've followed all the instructions in the wiki (i'm a cut and paste fella), but when i tried to install the package i recieved: errors were encountered while processing. does anyone have any info? here is the last lines i recieved: dpkg: error
[04:55] <ubuntu> same as prozilla
[04:55] <bradley_> processing sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb (--install):
[04:55] <bradley_>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:55] <bradley_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:55] <bradley_>  sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[04:55] <holycow> Android_D, how can you disable something thats not installed?
[04:55] <slackern> !paste
[04:55] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:55] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13964
[04:55] <slicslak> seriously.  if someone ever ported portage to ubuntu, i would pay for it.
[04:55] <Android_D> I have the package installed
[04:56] <holycow> then uninstall it
[04:56] <liquidten2> slicsladk:  why not use gentoo <_<?
[04:56] <Android_D> it installs packages I don't want installed
[04:56] <Android_D> sorry, uninstalls
[04:56] <capgadget> If you managed to get selinux installe dyou can disable it on boot in grub by adding selinux=0 on the kernel line
[04:56] <whiter> you have to use compiz as your window manager for xgl to work?
[04:56] <holycow> Android_D, uninstall it and the packages
[04:56] <holycow> then install the separate packages alone
[04:56] <nickrud> bradley_, you shouldn't paste here; and the error implies you're not running dpkg -i in the same directory where the sun deb is.
[04:56] <Munchkinguy> terribleCabbage: It lets you do all the cool Aqua-like things like: rotating desktop cube, translucent windows, wobbly windows, windows that scale when minimizing, etc
[04:56] <ubuntu> sudo apt-get install prozilla ...E: Couldn't find package prozilla
[04:56] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: ok, then do a "sudo mkdir -p /var/spool/lpd"
[04:56] <dudemanbro> how do i give an executable fle permission to write to the printer port?
[04:57] <linux_galore> heres the suse 10.1 howto on Xgl setup  ignore the Yast stuff, your just intrested in the config file stuff http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/17174.html
[04:57] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: then retry
[04:57] <capgadget> Try d4x instead of prozilla if you can find it.  Works really nice.
[04:57] <slicslak> liquidten2, i do on my servers, but i'm using a laptop.  and i travel in countries where the connection sucks.  for those apps that are not in or updated in apt's repositories, portage would be a killer backup.
[04:57] <WillyTell> twysted, I use Ubuntu at home. But where I work, people use windows... I'm trying to show them that linux is better, and the application already exist now can run here too. thanks again.
[04:57] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 k. one sec.
[04:57] <dudemanbro> i read chmod 4754, but i dont think that works
[04:57] <ubuntu> capgadget, i am on live
[04:57] <terribleCabbage> Munchkinguy: Thanks.
[04:58] <ubuntu> capgadget, how can i change source repo?
[04:58] <capgadget> K running dapper in vmware here at the moment.
[04:58] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 Ok, I think it's installed now... lets see if my cups recognizes it or finds it.. :|... how do I find the driver for it when installing the printer anyway?
[04:58] <dudemanbro> hello?
[04:58] <bradley_> nickrud: i'm gonna check for the directory now but to ensure that too much time doesn't pass-- how do i find the right directory? (and sorry about pasting)
[04:58] <liquidten2> pyrotic2:  just keep following the directions in that first link
[04:58] <capgadget> I normally run fc5 64 bit but the ati fglrx drivers are a complete disaster there.
[04:58] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: do a /etc/init.d/cupsd restart
[04:59] <nickrud> bradley_, sudo updatedb ; locate /sun-j2re1.5 | grep deb, and cd to that dir
[04:59] <flavio> oi
[04:59] <whiter> anyone know if compiz/xgl will run on my 733mhz computer?
[04:59] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: then add the printer either through localhost:631 in firefox, or in whatever tool ubuntu provides to add printers.
[04:59] <dudemanbro> does anyone know how to give an executable file permission to write to the printer port?
[05:00] <flavio> ola
[05:00] <linux_galore> kde has a really nice cups front end called kups, you can even edit the printer setup
[05:00] <capgadget> Sneak the xpde gui on a desktop.  It's a XP like demo.  Can fool the naive which is probably 90% of the winders users.  They won't kow the difference.
[05:00] <Munchkinguy> whiter: you can download a compiz/xgl LiveCD called Kororra
[05:00] <bradley_> nickrud: thanks i'll try that now.
[05:00] <whiter> oh good idea
[05:00] <linux_galore> dudemanbro: you dont thats defined by the user
[05:00] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 ok.. when I go to "restart cups" as it asks to do after installing the driver and the cupswrapper... it says no such file or directory..
[05:00] <Munchkinguy> http://kororaa.org/
[05:00] <holycow> capgadget, thats actually a very bad idea
[05:01] <ericvw> does anyone have a dell 8600 with i8kmon running?
[05:01] <whiter> good thinking munchkinguy
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> capgadget: I checked that out once, and it looked good, but didn't actually work.
[05:01] <sanmarcos> anybody know what a -server kenrle does?
[05:01] <capgadget> It actually did work and you could configure it.  I just ran it long enough to make some screen cap movies.
[05:01] <dudemanbro> linux_galore, well when i try to run the executable under sudo, it says permission denied
[05:01] <Munchkinguy> whiter: I correct myself; two R's, two A's
[05:01] <holycow> it was the last .1 percent that effed up the users badly
[05:01] <capgadget> Unfortunately they used that pascal clone compiler.
[05:02] <dudemanbro> linux_galore, /dev/port: permission denied
[05:02] <linux_galore> dudemanbro: try  sudo  chmod a+x filename
[05:02] <PORDO> move to dapper make me take long time.
[05:02] <linux_galore> dudemanbro: then ./filename
[05:02] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 I'll figure it out another time, thanks for your help, have a great night, buh-bye
[05:02] <liquidten2> pyrotic2:  ok
[05:02] <Munchkinguy> whiter: Do you have a Radeon Card? If you do, there might be some problems.
[05:02] <ubuntu> wget
[05:03] <briguyd> how do i use samba to share files from a local XP computer?
[05:03] <ubuntu> wget -r for resume then?
[05:03] <holycow> briguyd, well you share it on xp, then you go to places / network servers and click on the share
[05:04] <linux_galore> briguyd: setup samba with swat
[05:04] <holycow> theres nothing really to configure, network browsing like on windows
[05:04] <briguyd> swat?
[05:04] <briguyd> i've installed samba already
[05:04] <linux_galore> briguyd: its the official GUI admin app for samba
[05:04] <briguyd> and made a shared folder on the XP computer
[05:04] <xiamcitizen> what irc client you guys use?
[05:04] <briguyd> xiamcitizen, XChat
[05:04] <holycow> briguyd, your doing everything the hard way, you should be able to just browse your network
[05:05] <xiamcitizen> thanks, will dl
[05:05] <holycow> forget the swat stuff
[05:05] <xiamcitizen> briguyd, is it in the repos?
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> xiamcitizen: irssi
[05:05] <briguyd> linux_galore, is swat in the reposotories?
[05:05] <briguyd> xiamcitizen, it came preinstalled, so yes
[05:05] <linux_galore> briguyd: should be
[05:05] <Madpilot> xiamcitizen, XChat should be installed by default in 5.10
[05:05] <holycow> briguyd, you don't need to install swat or samba either, you just need the samba client to browse folders on the network of windows machines
[05:05] <xiamcitizen> im on 6.06
[05:05] <holycow> briguyd, that comes preinstalled with ubuntu
[05:05] <linux_galore> holycow: you mean browse the windows shares without samba, lots of luck
[05:05] <briguyd> holycow, how do i do that?
[05:06] <xiamcitizen> tonyyarruso i check that out to
[05:06] <xiamcitizen> o
[05:06] <holycow> linux_galore, smbclient, what does smbd haveto do with browsing samba shares?
[05:06] <holycow> right, nothing
[05:06] <holycow> briguyd, places / network servers
[05:06] <linux_galore> holycow: because windows shares protocols change all the time, half the time its broken
[05:07] <holycow> linux_galore, you only need smbd if YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH WINDOWS
[05:07] <ubuntu> sorry
[05:07] <ubuntu> -c
[05:07] <holycow> linux_galore, to VIEW windows shares all you need is samba client
[05:07] <briguyd> holycow, i DO want to share with windows (XP is a version of windows)
[05:07] <linux_galore> holycow: yes and the protocols are broken
[05:07] <holycow> briguyd, thats not what you r original question stated.
[05:07] <linux_galore> holycow: microsoft constantly break it
[05:07] <satya> guys, is gcc installed by default on Ubuntu 5.1?
[05:07] <briguyd> what's smbd?
[05:08] <slackern> linux_galore, it's working here
[05:08] <holycow> !samba
[05:08] <ubotu> well, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:08] <holycow> briguyd, follow those guides to share with windows
[05:08] <nickrud> satya, no. you need to do sudo apt-get install build-essential in a terminal
[05:08] <Jago> linux_galore: I am sorry no, the SMB protocol has remained pretty much the same since NT4, which is like 10 years old
[05:08] <holycow> linux_galore, sure, but originally his question was asking how to browse windows shares.  for that he only needs samba client and not samba server
[05:08] <Jago> linux_galore: half the time it's the samba implementation thats lacking features :)
[05:08] <cracko> anyone try enemy territory?
[05:08] <linux_galore> Jago: sheesh, yes but Microsoft doesnt give a stuff about standards
[05:08] <holycow> linux_galore, on the other hand, he changed his mind and now wants to share with windows clients.  for that he needs a samba server
[05:09] <satya> nickrud, thanks. Where can I foind more about this apt-get, like how many other packages are really out there?
[05:09] <holycow> completely different applications
[05:09] <ubuntu> linux_galore: i mounted a reiserfs mount /dev/hda7 /mnt. But i can't create file on that
[05:09] <holycow> Jago, actually no, samba is an amazing piece of engineering
[05:09] <briguyd> ok, so i have a networked XP box and this ubuntu machine, how do i get the XP files so i can see them and such
[05:09] <briguyd> ?
[05:09] <cracko> ubuntu: windows is read only at this time
[05:09] <holycow> Jago, mostly people that rag on samba (for a time me included) are people who don't aunderstand samba and how it works
[05:09] <nickrud> satya, from the menu bar at the top of the screen, system->admin->synaptic
[05:10] <holycow> the sad part about samba is that they are reverse engineering shit
[05:10] <Jago> holycow: call me when Samba has Active Directory :)
[05:10] <satya> nickurud, thanks a lot; am a newbie; just installed Ubuntu; it is great! three cheers to ubuntu!
[05:10] <ubuntu> cracko, windows?
[05:10] <linux_galore> ubuntu  should be mount /dev/hda7  /mnt/whatever   need to do a mkdir  /mnt/whatever
[05:10] <holycow> what the samba team should be doing is REPLACING the ms samba implementation on win so that we can install that and delimit the windows implementation
[05:10] <cracko> ubuntu: i thought you were talking about a windows hard drive share
[05:10] <holycow> Jago, i'll call you with samba4 release
[05:10] <holycow> Jago, not only does it have ad, it sucks out the data out of an ad implementation
[05:11] <holycow> click, go, repoint your win clients, done
[05:11] <linux_galore> smb4 has active directory
[05:11] <ubuntu> oh
[05:11] <ubuntu> i can't create dir in /mnt
[05:11] <Jago> noaXess_kubuntu: sudo mkdir /mnt/whatever
[05:11] <linux_galore> ubuntu  sudo  mkdir  /mnt/whatever
[05:11] <holycow> Jago, besides, regardless of what we say you will always bring up some useless point to argue about
[05:11] <Jago> err ubuntu
[05:11] <briguyd> gah! you are confusing me, what do I need to do to read my XP shared files in ubuntu???
[05:12] <holycow> Jago, samba in and of it self is an amazing piece of engineering fo rthe sheer reverse engineering project that it is
[05:12] <poningru> briguyd: is ti on the same computer?
[05:12] <briguyd> poningru,  no, on a netword
[05:12] <briguyd> network*
[05:12] <holycow> what they have done to reverse engineer the windows piece of crap implementation is beyond most programmers skills
[05:12] <poningru> briguyd: just to places
[05:12] <ericvw> does anyone have a dell with i8kmon running?
[05:12] <poningru> network
[05:12] <linux_galore> ubuntu then  sudo  mount /dev/hda2  /mnt/whatever
[05:13] <poningru> briguyd: I meant places->network servers
[05:13] <linux_galore> ubuntu sry /dev/hda7
[05:13] <nickrud> satya, if you just installed, you should read ( :) http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components and then http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:13] <poningru> and then there should be windows network or something
[05:13] <cracko> anyone play enemy territory?
[05:13] <briguyd> poningru, where is this "places"?
[05:13] <julian> Fixed my dependency hell. I just built it from source. I figure it was a bad .deb?
[05:13] <holycow> ericvw, a dell what? even within the same dell model line one will get completely different parts made by completely different manufacturers
[05:13] <ubuntu> linux_galore, and sudo wget file?
[05:13] <poningru> briguyd: are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[05:13] <briguyd> xubuntu
[05:13] <poningru> ah
[05:13] <holycow> briguyd, to left, next to applications ... are  you using  kubuntu?
[05:13] <ericvw> does anyone have a dell 8600 (8000 series) with i8kmon running?
[05:13] <ubuntu> and sudo vi on it?
[05:13] <briguyd> with thunar as the file browser
[05:13] <holycow> oh i can't help you with that
[05:14] <poningru> hmm
[05:14] <holycow> briguyd, go to #xubuntu or something
[05:14] <holycow> thats not a questio nfor this channel
[05:14] <briguyd> yeah
[05:14] <poningru> well the smb client is running
[05:14] <holycow> !xubuntu
[05:14] <ubotu> from memory, xubuntu is Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[05:14] <linux_galore> ubuntu you only use sudo to edit or run system based stuff  wget can be run as a user
[05:14] <poningru> briguyd: not sure how you can use the smb client with that file browser
[05:14] <Jago> is Windows SMB is such crap I can only wonder why it is more popular then NFS could ever hope to be :)
[05:14] <briguyd> ok, thanks everyone
[05:15] <high-freq> can someone help me with a pcmcia issue....i don't see it in lspci..and i have hostap and hostap-source and also pcmcia-utils and all that...but on dmesg says pcmcia cardbus card is using slot0.0 or whatever...and then it says prism2_config() failed....can someone plz help me with this issue
[05:15] <high-freq> its a 802.11/b xi-325 pcmcia card....kinda old
[05:16] <linux_galore> high-freq: are you sure you have the correct chipset in that card, beware makers do swap the chipsets and keep the same model numbers
[05:16] <high-freq> Chipset  	PRISM2.5 chipset on-board  <<,---- ya i'm looking at the specs of it on the website right now
[05:17] <high-freq> http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/802.11b_pc_card_h-pc325.php
[05:17] <ubuntu> linux_galore, thanks
[05:17] <high-freq> thats the link to the website for the specs of that card
[05:18] <linux_galore> ubuntu basically if you want to change anything that not in /home/username   you need to run sudo
[05:18] <The_Hague> I have a hp 1100, does anyone know just off the top of yee head whether this printer works or not?
[05:18] <dudemanbro> linux_galore, nope, it still didnt work
[05:18] <Munchkinguy> tonyyarusso: I'm leaving, so if you're still looking for an answer for my question, you can give up
[05:18] <Munchkinguy> bye
[05:18] <high-freq> The_Hague: yup
[05:18] <The_Hague> wee
[05:18] <linux_galore> ??
[05:18] <high-freq> The_Hague: i have one...the driver is hp1100 or somethin like that...hehe
[05:18] <The_Hague> I've tried foolin with it before but had no luck.
[05:19] <ubuntu_> linux_galore, ok
[05:19] <ubuntu_> linux_galore, can you help me to install prozilla?
[05:19] <linux_galore> ubuntu when you run wget it just download a file to /home/username/wherever  so you dont need sudo
[05:20] <cfedde> the trial Drake does not understand the mouse on my laptop.
[05:20] <xiamcitizen> yeah, so i have the SiS760GX. with 64MB VRAM i get about 5 fps. anybody have any workarounds?
[05:20] <high-freq> wget d/l's to the dir u are already in
[05:20] <linux_galore> ubuntu never installed it
[05:20] <linux_galore> ubuntu but I can try
[05:20] <ubuntu_> linux_galore, apt-get install prozilla but don't work here
[05:20] <chicken_Fire> Hi!, who has tried Solipsis already? Is it worth?
[05:20] <holycow> well of course, its not in the repositories
[05:20] <high-freq> ubuntu_: try apt-cache search prozilla
[05:20] <linux_galore> ubuntu ?? so it didnt find the package
[05:21] <briguyd> is there any way to browse a networked XP machine using the terminal?
[05:21] <Bilford> why do you want to use the terminal
[05:21] <linux_galore> billytwowilly: faster
[05:21] <holycow> briguyd, yes, man smbclient
[05:21] <ubuntu_> cani complie it?
[05:21] <Bilford> oh
[05:21] <Jago> briguyd: yes you can with smbclient
[05:21] <chicken_Fire> http://solipsis.netofpeers.net/wiki2/index.php/Main_Page
[05:21] <linux_galore> billytwowilly: hard to describe long menu entries in a chat room
[05:21] <high-freq> ubuntu_: if u can find the pkg then yes u can install it
[05:22] <ubuntu_> high-freq, not found
[05:22] <briguyd> yeah, that looks pretty confusing, anyone know the basic setup for it?
[05:22] <billytwowilly> linux_galore: huh?
[05:22] <holycow> briguyd, no one can teach you how to use software, thats not what htis channel is for
[05:23] <Bilford> lol
[05:23] <holycow> briguyd, please take the time to google and research your self first
[05:23] <linux_galore> billytwowilly:  click on this->that-< look for small abc tab click on that then right click on -> this->that then look for a small icon down the bottom
[05:23] <briguyd> holycow, i did, i had no idea what was going on
[05:23] <linux_galore> billytwowilly:  or open text file look for the third line and change it to abc -1
[05:24] <holycow> you googled for 3 seconds and expect me to think that you actually tried to learn how to use it?
[05:24] <high-freq> ubuntu_: ya i didn't see it either..i even did a search for zilla....and gave me a bunch but no prozilla....so now just goto the website and d/l and compile yourself
[05:24] <ubuntu_> high-freq, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=prozilla
[05:24] <ubuntu_> how install it?
[05:24] <billytwowilly> linux_galore: I don't know what you're talking about.. I haven't said anything on here in like 3 days...
[05:24] <briguyd> holycow, no, i googled it for half and hour and didnt learn anytihng
[05:24] <ubuntu_> high-freq, gcc not found on live
[05:24] <holycow> you couldnt have
[05:24] <holycow> i just told you about it
[05:25] <linux_galore> billytwowilly: sorry should be bilford
[05:25] <mtopf> Hi. Can someone post their windows entry from /boot/grub/menu.lst to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[05:25] <briguyd> holycow, no, i knew about it 3 weeks ago
[05:25] <billytwowilly> linux_galore: lol. k, cool. cheers.
[05:25] <holycow> then why ask?
[05:25] <briguyd> holycow, because i cant figure it out
[05:25] <holycow> its the only way, google more, look for examples of how to use smbclient
[05:25] <slackern> mtopf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13966
[05:26] <holycow> k. if someone has time to teach you cool.  :) i don't sorry
[05:26] <high-freq> ubuntu_: u using i386 machine...x86
[05:26] <ubuntu_> http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/p/prozilla/prozilla_1.3.6-3woody3_i386.deb
[05:26] <ubuntu_> how install this?
[05:27] <high-freq> ubuntu_: here click this... http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/net/prozilla  and choose the architecture u are using
[05:27] <IcemanV9> !info prozilla
[05:27] <Managu> errm, am I missing something?  that looks like the wrong distribution to me
[05:28] <ubuntu_> IcemanV9, downloader
[05:28] <holycow> Managu, the binary compatability between debian and ubuntu is not as distant as people would have you believe
[05:28] <ubuntu_> high-freq, apt-get prozilla_1.3.6-3woody3_i386.deb?
[05:29] <Managu> holycow: Oh, I know -- it's just a headache when people start mixing and then complaining on #ubuntu
[05:29] <IcemanV9> ubuntu_: yea. just checking if it's there in the repo, but it ain't. :/
[05:29] <Bilford> do Windows games run faster in Cedega than they do on Windows
[05:29] <high-freq> not sure
[05:29] <ubuntu_> IcemanV9, i got it here
[05:29] <holycow> Managu, *nod* i am slowly comming to the conclusions that humans are not terribly intelligent
[05:29] <ubuntu_> prozilla_1.3.6-3woody3_i386.deb
[05:30] <IcemanV9> ubuntu_: yes. i noticed. :)
[05:30] <ubuntu_> don't know how install it
[05:30] <holycow> Managu, teaching people how to use computers is like watching monkeys throw crap around their cages
[05:30] <The_Hague> question
[05:30] <IcemanV9> ubuntu_: sudo dpkg -i <package>
[05:30] <high-freq> i've never installed a deb file
[05:30] <high-freq> i've always compile myself or used apt-get
[05:30] <Bilford> Linux is confusing to learn.  I just switched a few days ago.  Im not switching back though
[05:30] <holycow> Bilford, lets rephrase your statement to something more accurate:
[05:31] <ubuntu_> thanks high-freq
[05:31] <Bilford> Linux is confusing for me to learn.  I just switched a few days ago.  Im not switching back though
[05:31] <The_Hague> I gnome, when you goto the properties of a file and and to the "notes", will this be searched through will say slocate ?
[05:31] <high-freq> ubuntu_: ya no prob
[05:31] <The_Hague> * In
[05:31] <The_Hague> *add
[05:31] <holycow> Bilford: you have used windows all your life and thats all you know.  linux is not confusing, it simply ISN'T windows and all the years of windows training is completely wrong and useless to you.  what is more helpfull is to understand this one single thing and from there all knowledge unfolds
[05:31] <The_Hague> duh!
[05:31] <holycow> :)
[05:32] <sanmarcos> is there any way to tell ubuntu to not load 8139cp but 8139too at boot?
[05:32] <The_Hague> ok will this be searched through with slocate?
[05:32] <Bilford> holycow- true
[05:32] <high-freq> sanmarcos: check your modules in /etc/modules  or in  /etc/modprobe.d
[05:32] <The_Hague> if I notes about the file, will this be checked when searching through my files?
[05:32] <slackern> The_Hague, I belive not, it just handles files
[05:33] <sanmarcos> high-freq: i dont think ubuntu cares about it
[05:33] <Apostle^> whats a good program to download files from newsgroups?
[05:33] <s|k> can I burn an ISO in ubuntu?
[05:33] <sanmarcos> high-freq: as in, udev or whatever checks and loads 8139cp. which fucks things up
[05:33] <s|k> :/
[05:33] <nickrud> Apostle^, pan
[05:33] <Bilford> klibido
[05:33] <high-freq> sanmarcos: well if u want a diff module then u must completely remove the old one..and use the new one
[05:33] <Apostle^> nickrud, hehe thats the one i picked
[05:33] <sanmarcos> high-freq: modules is procesed later
[05:33] <The_Hague> so when adding "notes" about a file this is not put in the files meta data?
[05:33] <Bilford> Newsleecher doesnt work in Wine
[05:33] <holycow> s|k, you should be able to right click and select 'burn image' or something similar yes
[05:33] <nickrud> Apostle^, it's the only gtk/gnome based one I know of :)
[05:33] <The_Hague> allowing it to pick up the info in those "notes"?
[05:34] <s|k> holycow: is it out of the box or do I need to install something?
[05:34] <Apostle^> nickrud, yea only one i saw with gtk
[05:34] <holycow> out of the box
[05:34] <s|k> holycow: I have a dvd burner
[05:34] <high-freq> sanmarcos: just check those 2 files...if 8139cp is being loaded then remove it....and go from there
[05:34] <slackern> The_Hague, slocate only check files on a filesystem and index them it doesn't index the contents of files but i could be misstaken.
[05:34] <s|k> k
[05:34] <Managu> sanmarcos: you probably want to add an entry to one of the blacklist files under /etc/modconf.d
[05:34] <sanmarcos> Managu: thanks
[05:34] <holycow> !cdburning
[05:34] <ubotu> holycow: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:34] <Bilford> Apostle^ did you tyr klibio too
[05:34] <The_Hague> what does the gnome search tool use?
[05:34] <nickrud> The_Hague, it'll be stored somewhere in your home dir, not any file meta data
[05:34] <holycow> !cdcreator
[05:34] <ubotu> holycow: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:34] <holycow> *hmm*
[05:34] <holycow> anyway give it a try
[05:35] <Apostle^> Bilford, not yet
[05:35] <high-freq> holycow: good program to use is k3b or nero for linux or good ol console
[05:35] <IcemanV9> !iso
[05:35] <ubotu> methinks iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[05:35] <holycow> ah there you go
[05:35] <The_Hague> is the gnome search tool just a front end to slocate or find or ?
[05:35] <Managu> sanmarcos: /etc/modprobe.d even
[05:35] <holycow> high-freq, wrong,those are shit programs
[05:35] <high-freq> holycow: i use them regularly
[05:35] <Bilford> Apostle^ I dont think Pan handles nzbb yet
[05:35] <holycow> unnecesarily complicated and modeled on terrible ideas like windows and nero
[05:36] <high-freq> haven't had no probs yet
[05:36] <whyami> k3b is great.
[05:36] <high-freq> tru...but easy
[05:36] <sanmarcos> Managu: yep, added a blacklist
[05:36] <high-freq> i think
[05:36] <Apostle^> Bilford, i know nothing about news groups, i'm trying to get on alt.binaries.sounds.lossless
[05:36] <high-freq> don't lie...u tryin to get on alt.binaries.sex
[05:36] <pyrotic> Ok, Printer geeks??????
[05:36] <holycow> high-freq, a better recommendation for noobs is gnomeburner
[05:36] <Bilford> I like k3b, but it's taking a lot longer to burn this DVD and verify than Nero
[05:36] <slackern> The_Hague, if you click the help button it will tell you how it searches :)
[05:36] <holycow> much better designed app imho
[05:36] <high-freq> hmm..i never used that....
[05:36] <high-freq> i'll check it out one of these days
[05:37] <holycow> Bilford, you can always go back to windows and use that
[05:37] <pyrotic> Annnnnny printer geeks.........?
[05:37] <holycow> !question
[05:37] <ubotu> holycow: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:37] <holycow> !justask
[05:37] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[05:37] <PORDO> i just found this program on my nokia 770 that turns speech to text.  sweet.
[05:37] <slackern> The_Hague, it uses both locate, find and grep
[05:37] <Bilford> holycow, I'll just have to learn how to speed things up
[05:37] <xpc> !seen kaz
[05:37] <ubotu> xpc: i haven't seen 'kaz'
[05:38] <xpc> !seen kat
[05:38] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'kat', xpc
[05:38] <Bilford> One DVD is taking about 1 hour 15 minutes to burn and verify, compared to 21 minutes with Nero
[05:38] <holycow> Bilford, you manage to adjust your attitude very productively :) impressive indeed, its rare for us to see that from windows users
[05:38] <Bilford> So I figure Im doing something wrong
[05:38] <pyrotic> Ok.. Question is, I installed the CORRECT, cupswrapper, and CORRECT, lpd driver... and followed the instructions.. and I printed to default prnter, which was the printer that I have.. but it doesn't print anything... said succesful print... but no print....any ideas???
[05:38] <The_Hague> here's what im trying to do: searchable archive or DB of all my democracynow.org podcasts.
[05:38] <samuli> hey, what was the folder to copy my themes in order to make them available to programs where I log in as a root?
[05:38] <Apostle^> Bilford, i can't figure out how to get on alt.binaries.sounds.lossless
[05:38] <samuli> like synaptic for example.
[05:39] <Bilford> Apostle^- do you have a Usenet provider?
[05:39] <high-freq> Bilford: seems like your burner isn't completely setup in the program
[05:39] <nickrud> Apostle^, you need to download the group list from your usenet provider first
[05:39] <Apostle^> Bilford, i don't think so
[05:39] <The_Hague> with lengthy descriptions so when searching I get more accurate hits.
[05:39] <holycow> Bilford, it is entirely possible that something made by people in their FREE TIME for FREE is not entire up to snuff as something made by commercial interests with paid engineers
[05:39] <Apostle^> nickrud, how do i get one, i just want to use alt.binaries.sounds.lossless
[05:39] <Bilford> Apostle^- I pay for Usenet access, but some ISPs provide it free
[05:39] <The_Hague> I guess I need mysql or ?
[05:39] <Shadow_mil> When I bootup my ubantu, it does not go stright into the the grapical mode, but it says "Brezzy badge" and ask me login under a command shell, whats wrong?
[05:39] <Apostle^> i have comcast ?
[05:39] <The_Hague> with a simple front end?
[05:39] <holycow> Bilford, afterall, this is a community effort, not a product
[05:39] <high-freq> Apostle^: use google for newsgroups
[05:39] <Apostle^> high-freq, how do i do that
[05:40] <Bilford> holycow- No, open source is usually best
[05:40] <nickrud> Apostle^, you need tell pan about your news servers; your isp should have a page telling what their host is
[05:40] <slackern> The_Hague, dapper has something called beagle it's a search engine that indexes files and their contents and more.
[05:40] <IcemanV9> thunderbird do newsgroup
[05:40] <Bilford> high-freq- ok, I'll check into that
[05:40] <high-freq> http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q=
[05:40] <high-freq> google.com and then groups
[05:40] <holycow> Shadow_mil, what is wrong is your using something that isn't released yet.  please ask in #ubuntu+1 so they can help you either debug it or point you to where you can post on bug tracker
[05:40] <pyrotic> I asked...
[05:40] <slackern> The_Hague, it's like googledesktop
[05:40] <pyrotic> Now I wait...
[05:40] <zcat[1] > my impression beagle isn't quite ready for primetime yet...
[05:40] <Managu> shadow_mil: you may (1) not have a well supported graphics card, (2) be experience install problems
[05:40] <capgadget> I haven't gotten much out of beagle yet.  It has alot of overhead.
[05:40] <holycow> Bilford, :)
[05:41] <Managu> holycow: breezy badger isn't exactly dapper
[05:41] <high-freq> who's the pcmcia guru's here?
[05:41] <holycow> oh i thought he said dapper for some reason, my bad :)
[05:41] <high-freq> thats what i need help wit
[05:41] <Shadow_mil> If I login and do a init 1 with sudo, it will load the GUI just fine, join to +1
[05:41] <Bilford> Dapper is comeing out on 6/6/6, right
[05:41] <zcat[1] > my family's been using dapper since yesterday. no major issues yet
[05:41] <Bilford> D for Devil
[05:41] <Apostle^> nickrud, so i need to find comcast's usenet server?
[05:41] <zcat[1] > 1/6/6 iirc..
[05:42] <Bilford> oh
[05:42] <nickrud> Apostle^, precisely
[05:42] <zcat[1] > they should have scheduled it for 6/6/6 though..
[05:42] <holycow> Shadow_mil, my appologies for some reason i thought you were using dapper ... nm, stick around someone might know
[05:42] <Bilford> Apostle^ try news.comcast.com  and enter your username password
[05:42] <ubuntu_> 666
[05:42] <The_Hague> slackern, Im a hisotorian/author and I need to also have a way to auto grab and archive news/publications/etc daily, I was thinking : how can I use RSS and then download and archive all the latest feed.
[05:42] <holycow> Shadow_mil, tell us where exactly it is stuck?
[05:42] <Bilford> Apostle^- IN Klibido
[05:42] <capgadget> I think M$ vista had 6/6/6 scheduled 2-3 years ago but they missed that target.
[05:42] <nickrud> Apostle^, then from the menu bar in pan tools->newservers, and define it there
[05:43] <Bilford> or Pan
[05:43] <The_Hague> * all those lat3st feeds
[05:43] <The_Hague> :p
[05:43] <zcat[1] > Isn't the PSP version of GTA due out 6/6/6 ?
[05:43] <bradley_> does any one know how to get quicktime (.mov) to work? or is it even possible? (ps. java is running now)
[05:43] <slackern> The_Hague, oh that im afraid i don't know much of myself, never even tried RSS myself except for the standard RSS things that comes with Mozilla Firefox.
[05:43] <ubuntu_> next 7/7/7
[05:43] <Bilford> the Summer Olympics start at 0800 on 08/08/08
[05:44] <The_Hague> slackern, yeah I thought I may be able to script somthing but yea, still thinking it through.
[05:44] <Shadow_mil> holycow: I think its not loading the grapical stuff on boot up, I am getting ready to check the boot process see if I disabled anything I should not have
[05:44] <Managu> bradley_: I think I remember seeing something about that in the Wiki.  Have you searched it yet?
[05:44] <zcat[1] > Hmmmm.. 6 minutes and 6 seconds after 6am, on 6/6/06 might be an interesting one
[05:44] <holycow> Shadow_mil, your able to log in via command line?
[05:44] <zcat[1] > 06:06:06 06/06/06
[05:44] <Bilford> GMT
[05:44] <slackern> The_Hague, It should be doable, but im not sure i know how :)
[05:44] <The_Hague> slackern, ill check into what you recommended though.
[05:44] <The_Hague> thnk!
[05:44] <pyrotic> Ok.. I will post again...
[05:44] <ubuntu_> and size of iso is 666MB
[05:44] <IcemanV9> mozilla thunderbird can handle rss feeds, newsgroup, etc .. great app
[05:44] <Bilford> lol
[05:45] <bradley_> i did. nothing showed up... i searched "quicktime' and 'quick time'.
[05:46] <nickrud> zcat[1] , you're reaching there :)
[05:46] <Bilford> bradley_, if you use Firefox, add an Ubuntu forums module to the Search bar
[05:46] <Falluccer> I'm new with linux and need a little help, I need to install my usb ethernet adapter's drivers but there all windows drivers
[05:46] <cafuego> does anything happen when you just plug it in?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Falluccer,  you mean a usb-wireless doo-dad? :P
[05:47] <Falluccer> I've read up on that app your supposed to use but I'm confused about how to get it working
[05:47] <CaptainMorgan> how come the block function doesn't work in Gaim ?
[05:47] <zcat[1] > bah.. I skipped a lecture when I was at university to observe 12:34:56 7/8/90
[05:47] <Falluccer> yes, usb wireless
[05:47] <PORDO> apt-get install me long time.
[05:47] <IcemanV9> Bilford: ubuntu forums module? really? i only have ubuntu package search
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Falluccer,  well.. all i can say is ... good luck. :P
[05:47] <cafuego> !ndiswrapper
[05:47] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:47] <joedj> bradley_: https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats says that mplayer and xine can play QuickTime using built-in codecs
[05:47] <Managu> Falluccer: It might very well be the case that there exists no linux support for your device.
[05:47] <Shadow_mil> holycow: yeah
[05:47] <zcat[1] > or perhaps it was 01:23:45 6/7/89 .. I'm not suite sure
[05:47] <CaptainMorgan> !gaim
[05:47] <ubotu> hmm... gaim is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto
[05:47] <zcat[1] > *quite
[05:48] <Shadow_mil> holycow I think I might have found my problem
[05:48] <holycow> Shadow_mil, then your allright.  debugging this can be hard as it can be anything
[05:48] <Shadow_mil> my user's login shell is set to /bin/bash
[05:48] <Bilford> IcemanV9-  http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=ubuntu&sherlock=yes&opensearch=&submitform=Search
[05:48] <zcat[1] > duh.. the first one.. I missed 01:23:45 (that would have been 1am)
[05:49] <Managu> Falluccer: What's the make and model of your device, and what research have you already done?
[05:49] <IcemanV9> Bilford: sweet.
[05:49] <Bilford> we just passed 6 5/ 4 3: 21
[05:49] <Shadow_mil> holycow: Whats the login shell for the GUI?
[05:49] <Managu> shadow_mil: gdm?
[05:49] <holycow> login shell for gui? what do you mean?
[05:50] <holycow> Shadow_mil, login is loging for your account, it doesn't matter how you login, l/p is always the same
[05:50] <Shadow_mil> holycow: I am on kubantu btw
[05:50] <bradley_> joedj: i think they are refering to .avi not .mov
[05:50] <zcat[1] > 01:02:03 04/05/06? damn..
[05:50] <Bilford> yeah
[05:50] <Bilford> I missed that one
[05:50] <Falluccer> I need help getting ndiswrapper to work
[05:50] <bradley_> bilford: how do i add an ubuntu forums module?
[05:50] <Managu> bradley_: from experience, mplayer can play just about everything
[05:50] <Bilford> bradley_-  http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=ubuntu&sherlock=yes&opensearch=&submitform=Search
[05:50] <Falluccer> that's what i've been asking
[05:51] <zcat[1] > dammit, I haven't set the printer up yet. Sue just tried to print a webpage...
[05:51] <Falluccer> I don't get how you get the utilities onto the computer to use it
[05:51] <Managu> Falluccer: I can't say for certain, but I expect that ndiswrapper won't do anything for you; it's meant to work with internal devices and pci cards
[05:51] <zcat[1] > afkbrb
[05:51] <cafuego> Falluccer: Step one: you probably need top upgrade to dapper, as ndiswrapper 1.4 (breezy) and usb wifi are not friends.
[05:51] <Shadow_mil> I have to login on a commandline, then I get a bash shell, I am thinking it might be because the login shell is set to /bin/bash, there are how ever, about 9-10 shells I can pick
[05:51] <ubuntu_> i just plug another cd writer for burning
[05:51] <Bilford> is Dapper much different than Breezy
[05:51] <ubuntu_> i am on live
[05:52] <nickrud> Bilford, not really, but yes
[05:52] <holycow> Shadow_mil, just login using your login name and pass you created at install
[05:52] <bradley_> managu: i have mplayer but i can't load any quicktime (.mov) when checking out trailers online (movie trailers are my test subjects)
[05:52] <vbgunz> is there a way to make qt applications look native on Gnome?
[05:52] <Falluccer> I looked and it supports my adapter
[05:52] <Managu> bradley_: can you download the movie trailer in its entirety, or are you using streaming video?
[05:53] <holycow> Shadow_mil, your loging in your account, it makes no difference whether you use shell interface, kde interface or some futurama parapsychic interface :0
[05:53] <nickrud> Bilford, it won't look much different, but a lot of things will probably work better: video for one
[05:53] <Falluccer> can you help me get it set up step by step
[05:53] <PORDO> what things me notice be different when use dapper over breezy?
[05:53] <Shadow_mil> holycow: then why do I get a command line when I login?
[05:53] <Bilford> nickrud- cool
[05:53] <PORDO> faster mouse?  mouse in breezy too slow.
[05:54] <holycow> Shadow_mil, what? do you get a graphical login menu or do you get a black screen (shell) login menu?
[05:54] <Shadow_mil> I get a black screen
[05:54] <holycow> well thats a shell
[05:54] <zcat[1] > hmmm.. is there a way to make windows-mozilla-in-wine look more like native mozilla? or a way to run shockwave in native mozilla?
[05:54] <holycow> why is that a problem?
[05:54] <holycow> just type in your user name and password
[05:54] <holycow> and log in
[05:54] <Bilford> is it safe to upgrade to Dapper today
[05:54] <holycow> your graphical desktop environment isn't installed properly
[05:54] <Bilford> Dapper pre release
[05:54] <holycow> you can use that interface to log in and fix it
[05:54] <Shadow_mil> My sister is a windows user and a shell confusses her
[05:55] <zcat[1] > Bilford: very unsafe!! :)
[05:55] <Shadow_mil> thats why its a problem
[05:55] <holycow> Shadow_mil, it sounds like it confuses you too
[05:55] <holycow> Shadow_mil, okay stop talking and start listening a bit
[05:55] <holycow> :)
[05:55] <Shadow_mil> it does not, I know my way around a command shell
[05:55] <Shadow_mil> ok
[05:55] <Bilford> zcat[1] -  seirously? why
[05:55] <holycow> lol allright, so if you are comfortable with a shell what exactly do any of your statements above mean?
[05:55] <holycow> you are setting up a system for someone
[05:55] <holycow> fine
[05:55] <holycow> of course we don't want them to use shell
[05:55] <holycow> fine
[05:56] <holycow> your logged into a shell
[05:56] <holycow> fine
[05:56] <holycow> whats the problem?
[05:56] <zcat[1] > seriously I'm running it already, my kids have been playing games and surfing the web under dapper all yesterday.
[05:56] <IcemanV9> Bilford: just wait .. only less than a month away to be released. :)
[05:56] <bradley_> managu: sorry i was gone for so long i was double checking the wiki. um.. i am attepting to stream video.
[05:56] <Bilford> zcat[1] - oh cool
[05:56] <holycow> you have shellf, reinstall the graphical interface compoenents
[05:56] <b3nw> where is the sound device for alsa? /dev/????
[05:56] <holycow> debug any error messages, and get kde running for the computer user
[05:56] <Falluccer> can someone tell me how to put the ndiswrapper tools on my computer to use it
[05:56] <ubuntu_> zcat[1] , what is game? tuxrace?
[05:56] <holycow> Shadow_mil, or ask more specific questions about solving the problem
[05:56] <holycow> Shadow_mil, i'm done :)
[05:56] <Shadow_mil> holycow: no error messages
[05:56] <zcat[1] > I just set up a printer; click 'add printer' and it already knows I have a LJ5L .. too damn easy!
[05:56] <b3nw> Falluccer - check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[05:57] <Managu> bradley_: ahh, ok.  I admit, I've never tried to get any of that working, but I expect you want to get the mozilla-mplayer plugin working
[05:57] <PORDO> dapper have reiser 4?!  NO!!  you kid!
[05:57] <holycow> Shadow_mil, did you restard kdm?
[05:57] <Managu> Falluccer: can you hear what I'm saying?
[05:57] <b3nw> does anyone know where the sound device for alsa? /dev/????
[05:57] <Shadow_mil> gtg, its lighting and thundering
[05:57] <Shadow_mil> cya
[05:57] <sport|sleep> yo
[05:57] <Managu> b3nw: if you have to specify a sound device, you're probably not using alsa properly
[05:57] <sport|sleep> good or bad idea to use ubuntu
[05:57] <sport|sleep> for my freevo media center
[05:57] <sport|sleep> :-p
[05:57] <b3nw> Managu - it doesn't exist or ?
[05:58] <zcat[1] > ubuntu_ supertux, planetpenguin, but mostly neopets games (which use  flash8 and shockwave, so I run windows firefox in wine with the windoed plugins)
[05:58] <holycow> sport|sleep, it doesn't matter
[05:58] <Falluccer> dude, I looked at the ndiswrapper wiki page AND IT SUPPORT MY ADAPTER
[05:58] <holycow> sport|sleep, ubuntu or debian are almost identical,  both will let you setup a server super easy
[05:58] <b3nw> Managu - trying to setup a relay for skype that uses /dev/dsp, just don't know where to send it
[05:58] <Managu> b3nw: it does, but programs which use alsa sound use a higher level interface (alsalib).
[05:58] <b3nw> make sense?
[05:58] <ftewdal> anyone have an nforce4 board with built in nic?
[05:58] <nullified> I've spent 2 hours trying to get world of warcraft to work on linux. Using this ubuntu guide that they have provided and it doesnt work, Im near tears so im off to bed. Gnight all
[05:59] <Managu> b3nw: assuming you have alsa-oss emulation setup, /dev/dsp should work fine
[05:59] <b3nw> hmmm how to test of that works?
[05:59] <zcat[1] > nullified: linux sucks for gaming. Dual boot or get a console..
[05:59] <holycow> nullified, sleeping it off is a legitimate debugging method infact
[05:59] <holycow> :)
[06:00] <Managu> Ehh, I dunno.  WoW works fine for me
[06:00] <nullified> zcat[1] : My windows machine's GFX card just died....its only temp....i
[06:00] <nullified> Plus i would like wow to work on linux anyhow
[06:00] <nullified> nn
[06:00] <holycow> allright now i have a question: i'm thinking of buying this http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FastTrackUSB-main.html
[06:01] <bradley_> managu: i think i have them running, but i'll double check. my test site is: www.apple.com/trailers. streaming generally works though right? from what i can read this (.mov) is just a bit of a prickly pickle!
[06:01] <holycow> it will push sound out to a usb port ... thus my question is can i source sound FROM a usb port?
[06:01] <liquidindian> Is there a way of playing last.fm streams through Amarok, anyone?
[06:01] <zcat[1] > If I ever feel the urge to play games, I'll probably get an xbox. and the first thing I'll do is modchip it so I can run myth
[06:01] <holycow> oh god no
[06:01] <holycow> why support the behemoth?
[06:01] <holycow> :)
[06:01] <borandon> lol
[06:02] <holycow> send your money to th enice folks at sony instead!
[06:02] <holycow> *cough* :)
[06:02] <borandon> i wonder what the new nintendo will be like
[06:02] <zcat[1] > support? no.. they subsidise the hardware.. I'll run Linux with MS subsidizing my hardware..
[06:02] <Managu> bradley_: To be honest, multimedia is probably the area which has the poorest support under Ubuntu.  There are so many legal hazzards that it's very difficult to support everything, even though there's freely available code that does just about everything
[06:02] <Madpilot> holycow, since when does Sony qualify as nice? "Accept the rootkit and shut up already" Sony? :P
[06:02] <borandon> i heard the controller is like putting your hand in a virtual box, the machine being able to read where it's at and how it moves
[06:03] <zcat[1] > I think that was sarcasim
[06:03] <holycow> Madpilot, hehe :) i know your screwed either way
[06:03] <holycow> Madpilot, my only hope is that the ps3 has a linux os and somehow that spurrs some development for tools on this platform
[06:03] <Falluccer> also, when I put in a flopy disk it says it can't mount it, what could be the problem
[06:04] <Madpilot> heh
[06:04] <holycow> tho because of the cel processor we will never see any ports this way
[06:04] <Madpilot> anyway, game console chat & similar to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[06:04] <vbgunz> is there a way to make qt apps appear native on Gnome?
[06:04] <holycow> so anyway, anyone ever source sound via usb port by chance? ... just curious if it can be done
[06:04] <b3nw> if OSS is properly fowarded to ALSA one should be able to play music from a device pointed at /dev/dsp and alsa? at the same time?
[06:04] <borandon> nope
[06:05] <Falluccer> I am so confused about installing ndiswrapper
[06:05] <Apostle^> nickrud, it tells me incorrect pass on pan eventhough it;s right
[06:05] <borandon> but i stayed at a holiday inn last night
[06:05] <Managu> Falluccer: can you read what I'm typing?
[06:05] <holycow> b3nw, *hmm* i'll take note of that and do a bit more research
[06:05] <Falluccer> don't you read what i'm typing
[06:05] <borandon> i read what everybody is typing
[06:06] <b3nw> holycow: just having a hell of a time trying to get skype to work, but not have it completely takeover my sound, so for example if I get an aim message, I can still hear a sound for it
[06:06] <Falluccer> Managu: I went throught the ndiswrapper wiki and it supports my adapter
[06:06] <Managu> Falluccer: by chipset, or by make and model?
[06:06] <high-freq> anyone have probs wit    prism2_config() failed
[06:06] <bradley_> managu: oh well that is that then (for now) i have one last question-- i just checked out some non-quicktime streaming (using the mplayer plug-in) and it opened it in a separate window and is choppy. do you have any ideas for that?
[06:06] <nickrud> Apostle^, no clue about why your isp is rejecting the password; you can watch the handshake if you install ethereal
[06:06] <Falluccer> make and model
[06:06] <zcat[1] > holycow: USB sound is basically the same as any other sound.. you get a /dev/dsp and you run audacity or whatever.. from the user's POV there's no difference
[06:06] <Falluccer> netgear wg111v2
[06:06] <Apostle^> nickrud, maybe i need to signup for it
[06:07] <holycow> b3nw, *nod* i've only read terrible things about it ... not mentioning the fact it uses a proprietary protocol which to me is completely unethical to use
[06:07] <holycow> zcat[1] , /dev/dsp is NOT usb
[06:07] <nickrud> Apostle^, I've always had free newservers with my isp password, but I've never used comcast
[06:07] <sstchur> I'm trying to do something that I assume should be simple:  install new mouse cursors for X -- I'm running XFCE and cannot find any obvious way to do this.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[06:07] <high-freq> lol...i almost bought a wg111v2 usb wireless....till i read it had to be used with ndiswrapper ;(
[06:07] <holycow> zcat[1] , i'm grabbing sound from /dev/usb tho ... so i guess i'll haveto see how that works
[06:07] <zcat[1] > dunno.. friend of mine has a USB transmitter. We plugged it in and up came /dev/dsp3 and he could play sound through it.. no special drivers or anything
[06:08] <Managu> bradley_: errm, faster processor?  it may be that mplayer is using a sub-optimal choice of audio and video outputs.  There's probably some way to configure it (you almost certainly want "alsa" as the audo output and "xv" as the video output), but you'd have to hunt around
[06:08] <zcat[1] > except on reboot it came up as /dev/dsp
[06:08] <holycow> weird, why would it come up as a dsp device?
[06:08] <zcat[1] > in the end we forced the other drivers to load first..
[06:08] <zcat[1] > it's a sound device.. it comes up just like any other sound device
[06:08] <holycow> *hmm* interesting, okay at least someone had it working
[06:09] <holycow> zcat[1] , ah interesting so usb only becomes a transport ... okay right makes sense printers do something similar
[06:09] <holycow> right
[06:09] <holycow> thank you
[06:09] <Falluccer> Card: NETGEAR WG111 version 2 802.11g Wireless USB2.0 Adapter
[06:09] <Falluccer> Chipset: Prism54 (Intersil 3886 and NetChip NET2280) or
[06:09] <Falluccer> Chipset: ? (Intersil 3887 without NetChip NET2280)
[06:09] <Falluccer> usbid: 0846:4240 (both#*Chipsets !)
[06:09] <Falluccer> Driver: Netgear windows driver Version: NETGEAR, Inc.,10/05/2004, 2.1 from http://www.netgear.com or shipped with the setup CD. To get the driver, unzip it. The ndis drivers are in the ndis directory. Used kernel Running Slackware v10.1 (kernel 2.6.10) ndiswrapper ver 1.1rc3 . There is a native driver for Prism54 that is working on USB support. View its status at Prism54.org
[06:09] <zcat[1] > afaik most USB sound devices should work the same.. plug it in, device comes up, use device, be happy.
[06:09] <Falluccer> Other: Works nearly well (several daily crashes in Summer 2005).
[06:09] <Falluccer> Distro-specific: Debian Sarge 2.6.8.1, Ndiswrapper 0.10 Distro-specific: Debian Sid 2.6.8.X, Ndiswrapper 0.12+1.0rc2-1, without rfmon
[06:09] <Falluccer> Other project without ndiswrapper : http://jbnote.free.fr/prism54usb/ (seems incomplete in january 2006 - not supporting WEP or WPA).
[06:09] <Falluccer> Other: With the driver for Sitecom WL-142, this device supports WPA2 and also keeps the device "alive" (with driver from netgear, device stops working after a while): [49] . Note that the device ID for Sitecom is different, so you need to create alias for it for WG111, e.g., with 'ndiswrapper -d 0846:4240 wlanuig', after which 'ndiswrapper -l' should show 'hardware present'.
[06:09] <Falluccer> right off of the wiki page
[06:09] <Bilford> Oh well, I like trying new things.  I think Ill try the Dapper upgrade
[06:10] <nickrud> Falluccer, and a link would have been sufficient
[06:10] <Falluccer> lol
[06:10] <Falluccer> I know
[06:10] <Falluccer> i wasn't thinking
[06:10] <h3h_timo> could anyone recommend a bittorrent client to me?
[06:10] <Falluccer> bittorrent....
[06:10] <Falluccer> the offical client
[06:10] <paradizelost> h3h_timo: azureus
[06:10] <holycow> h3h_timo, ubuntu comes with a gnome torrent client use that
[06:10] <bradley_> they used to play fine with windows. where do i look for alsa and xv-- in mplayer?
[06:11] <h3h_timo> yeah.. well it never connects to torrents... and i dont know where to go to configure wher to do port forwarding
[06:11] <zcat[1] > hahah.. some guy figured out how to reprogram the price per liter on a sself-serve gas pump.. left it $0 and a bunch of people filled up on free gas before they found out..
[06:11] <Bilford> is mplayer free
[06:11] <Bilford> im using vlc
[06:11] <slackern> h3h_timo, i use bittornado
[06:11] <zcat[1] > heard it on the radio..
[06:12] <h3h_timo> yeah i tried that too.. but it wouldnt connect either.. that little icon in the top left corner is always yellow
[06:12] <h3h_timo> !bittorrent
[06:12] <ubotu> bittorrent is probably the BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:12] <Apostle^> Bilford, all linux apps are free except like cedega
[06:12] <zcat[1] > bet they have all the licence plates on cctv though..
[06:12] <nickrud> Bilford, probably
[06:12] <Bilford> ok ty
[06:12] <pyrotic> Hello everybody, I need assistance in installing a Brother MFC-420CN Network Printer...Some of the links you all will post, I probably have tried... but sombody please help me.. I've tried all that I can!... and when I print to default printer.. (the 420CN..) it says successful but no paper comes out the printer.. HMM!... help?
[06:12] <Apostle^> Bilford, question about usenet: it tells me my comcast pass is wrong for no reason
[06:12] <Falluccer> Is anyone able to give me a step by step on how I get ndiswrapper working....
[06:12] <sstchur> Is there something special I need to do to install a theme I download from xfce-look.org?  I can place the archive's folder in /usr/share/themes/ and choose it, but it does not seem to be loading all of the theme -- look clunky like something is missing
[06:12] <nickrud> Bilford, anything that can be gotten from the multiverse repository has some kind of legal hangup, mplayer included
[06:13] <Falluccer> I read the page that was provided before but it all confuses me
[06:13] <Bilford> Apostle^- I dont have comcast.  maybe you need to do username@comcast.com  ?
[06:13] <bradley_> managu: they used to play fine with windows. where do i look for alsa and xv-- in mplayer?
[06:13] <Apostle^> Bilford, ahh yes maybe
[06:13] <Managu> bradley_: I'm sorry, I don't know =(
[06:13] <Bilford> nickrud- ok
[06:13] <nickrud> bradley_, you could try the instructions for a generic mplayer config on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[06:14] <Apostle^> Bilford, didn't work :\
[06:14] <Bilford> Apostle^- maybe news.comcast.com isnt the name of their Usenet servers
[06:15] <pyrotic> Hello everybody, I need assistance in installing a Brother MFC-420CN Network Printer...
[06:15] <Apostle^> Bilford, well it says wrong username or pass so it seems like it is :\
[06:15] <Bilford> Apostle^   newsgroups.comcast.net
[06:15] <partin> question - I have a rt2500 chipset wireless pcmcia networking card. the rt2500 module is loaded, but lspci is not showing the card. Any suggestions on what I shoud try so that lspci shows the card?
[06:16] <pyrotic> hm.. looks like nobody can help me..
[06:16] <high-freq> pyrotic: did u try the cups server
[06:16] <Bilford> pyrotic=  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105703&highlight=Brother+MFC-420CN+Network+Printer
[06:17] <pyrotic> high-freq yea but it does not list my driver
[06:17] <Managu> Falluccer: you have the driver disk that came with the card?
[06:17] <high-freq> pyrotic: cups didn't find it?
[06:17] <high-freq> wow
[06:17] <pyrotic> high-freq nope.
[06:17] <Apostle^> Bilford, that isn't working either
[06:17] <pyrotic> high-freq didn't find it on USB, nor Network.
[06:17] <Bilford> pyrotic-  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105703&highlight=Brother+MFC-420CN+Network+Printer
[06:17] <Bilford> Apostle^-  http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=Newsgroups118224
[06:17] <pyrotic> bilford Ok, I'll try that, thanks
[06:18] <high-freq> pyrotic: no i mean the driver....it didn't find the driver for your puter....?  don't worry if its not on the puter....just need to find driver first
[06:18] <orbin> any recommendations for bittorrent clients besides the default installed one?
[06:18] <pyrotic> high-freq Give me a minute, bilford gave me this howto, I'll try it, if it doesn't work, I will contact you again, Thanks for your patience.
[06:19] <Apostle^> Bilford, it doesn't say what port, 119 ?
[06:19] <Bilford> Apostle^- yeah
[06:20] <Apostle^> Bilford, got it now, thanks how do i get on alt.binaries.audio.lossless or whatever it is lol
[06:20] <Falluccer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:20] <Managu> orbin: I've heard some rave reviews of uTorrent
[06:20] <Bilford> Apostle^-  Server - Get List of Groups
[06:20] <Falluccer> it says there to Copy the appropriate files over to a directory on your Ubuntu computer (e.g. your Home directory) and install them in this order
[06:21] <Falluccer> where should I copy the files
[06:21] <h3h_timo> !azureus
[06:21] <ubotu> somebody said azureus was a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:21] <orbin> Managu: so nothing good in the repos?
[06:21] <orbin> thanks h3h_timo
[06:21] <Bilford> Automatix will install Azureus
[06:21] <zcat[1] > is there an easy way to get OOo to print 4-pages per sheet of paper so I can fold it into a booklet?
[06:22] <zcat[1] > (2 pages per side, portrait)
[06:22] <Managu> orbin: I suppose I'll answer that with: What's wrong with the default installed client?
[06:22] <Apostle^> Bilford, okay, how do i now search for a certain thing
[06:22] <orbin> Managu: rather simplistic...i used bitcomet recently and it gave a lot more info on what was happening
[06:22] <Bilford> Apostle^- Newsgroup- Subscribe to Newsgroup
[06:22] <pyrotic> bilford - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13968
[06:23] <Apostle^> Bilford, k did that
[06:23] <dli> does "about:config" still work with firefox in ubuntu?
[06:23] <Managu> orbin: you might look into azureus.  It's the de-facto fancy bells/whistles client
[06:23] <orbin> Managu: so utorrent's sort of a fire and forget client too?
[06:24] <Bilford> dli- Yes.  is your FF slow
[06:24] <Apostle^> Bilford, okay i subscribed, now i want to search for something
[06:24] <Managu> orbin: apparently utorrent is a windows-only program.  My bad ;-)
[06:24] <Bilford> Apostle^-  Update the group
[06:24] <orbin> Managu: oh, lol
[06:24] <pyrotic> bilford ,you get my link?
[06:24] <orbin> Managu: shame on you :P
[06:24] <dli> Bilford: just wonder whether ubuntu has disabled this feature
[06:24] <Apostle^> Bilford, get new headers?
[06:25] <Bilford> pyrotic-  I have no clue.  I just posted that link.  high-freq might know
[06:25] <orbin> h3h_timo: should i still get all this java stuff if i have j1.5 installed?
[06:25] <Bilford> dli- No, I used it to fix the IP6 thing
[06:25] <pyrotic> high-freq - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13968 -
[06:25] <h3h_timo> i dont think you need it
[06:26] <Apostle^> Bilford, it's downloading but it has to get like 250,000 things
[06:26] <h3h_timo> when you do java -version what do you get?
[06:26] <Bilford> Apostle^- yeah, welcome to Usenet lol
[06:26] <Managu> orbin: that said, BitTorrent is much happier if you fire and forget than if you poke and mess.  Most of the time at least
[06:26] <Apostle^> Bilford, i just want to search for music lol..
[06:26] <orbin> h3h_timo: java version "1.4.2"
[06:26] <partin> question - I have a rt2500 chipset wireless pcmcia networking card. the rt2500 module is loaded, but lspci is not showing the card. Any suggestions on what I shoud try so that lspci shows the card?
[06:26] <Bilford> Apostle^-  you have to download the headers first
[06:27] <Apostle^> Bilford, i see, only reason i'm on usenet is because i was told it is the best place for lossless audio
[06:27] <h3h_timo> umm mine is 1.5.0_06 so you could update it
[06:27] <orbin> Managu: i don't want to poke and mess.  i just find it interesting to see how many peers etc. are connected.
[06:27] <Angel-SL> !seen nalioth
[06:27] <ubotu> nalioth is currently on #kubuntu (1d 8h 2m 5s) #ubuntu+1 (1d 8h 2m 5s) #ubuntu-offtopic (1d 8h 2m 5s) #kubuntu-offtopic (1d 8h 2m 5s) #ubuntu (1d 8h 2m 5s)
[06:27] <h3h_timo> do you want the link with the steps to do it?
[06:27] <Managu> partin: first things first, lspci should show the card with or without the module; I'd unload the module and try to find the card first =)
[06:27] <orbin> h3h_timo: i thought i installa 1.5 ... i used the restricted wiki page
[06:27] <pyrotic> bilford what is the delete command?
[06:28] <h3h_timo> hmm
[06:28] <whiter> rm
[06:28] <h3h_timo> oh i know what to do.. hold on a sec
[06:28] <pyrotic> whiter thanks
[06:28] <Bilford> pyrotic- I dont know . I just switched to Linux a few days ago.  I used to use NewsLeecher
[06:28] <partin> managu, how do you suggest I go about that?
[06:28] <orbin> h3h_timo: about:plugins in ff shows 1.5
[06:28] <h3h_timo> i forget the command wait like 30 seconds
[06:28] <orbin> ok
[06:28] <Apostle^> Bilford, so once it's done downloading the million headers i can download music?
[06:28] <Managu> partin: I don't know anything about your setup.  PCI card?  Motherboard built-in?  I've admittedly never heard of this rt2500 wireless chipset
[06:29] <Bilford> Apostle^- yes
[06:29] <h3h_timo> do you know how to set it up so its the default java system?
[06:29] <Apostle^> Bilford, is it just point and click or do i need to know anything
[06:29] <Apostle^> !alternatejava
[06:29] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Apostle^
[06:29] <Apostle^> !alternate java
[06:29] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Apostle^
[06:29] <Apostle^> hmm their is a command........
[06:29] <Bilford> Apostle^- pretty much.  you just have to use it
[06:29] <orbin> h3h_timo: er probably not
[06:29] <Madpilot> h3h_timo, check the wiki's Java page
[06:29] <Madpilot> !java
[06:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:29] <Hobbsee> Apostle^: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:29] <Apostle^> yea
[06:29] <Apostle^> that one
[06:29] <h3h_timo> yeah hold on ill do it for ya
[06:29] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:29] <Apostle^> :-D
[06:29] <h3h_timo> i know where it is i just did it today
[06:30] <partin> managu, the rt2500 chipset is one of ralink chipsets supported by linux. my card is a pc card that I insert in my laptop.
[06:30] <Apostle^> Bilford, going to be a few hours :\ do i need to do this each time?
[06:30] <Diego> hello everyone
[06:30] <orbin> Madpilot, h3h_timo : ah, i see it, thanks
[06:30] <h3h_timo>   sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:30] <Bilford> Apostle^ a few hours?
[06:30] <h3h_timo> got it?
[06:31] <Managu> partin: oh my.  I haven't ever had any luck with CardBus either =(
[06:31] <Apostle^> Bilford, their is like millions of the files to download
[06:31] <h3h_timo> orbin, you good?
[06:31] <Diego> How large of a partition should I make for Ubuntu on my hard drive?
[06:31] <Apostle^> Bilford, 2987280
[06:31] <Diego> I mean, I want to try it out first, and hopefully, eventually make the full swtich from WINDOWS
[06:31] <Bilford> Apostle^-  youre probably getting headers from a month back or more.  so next time you update, youll only be getting a day or two worth
[06:31] <benplaut> is there a way to extract 7zip files without the 7zip client?
[06:31] <Madpilot> Diego, at least 5Gb - go for 8 or 10 if you've got the space
[06:32] <Managu> partin: does anything happen in your logs when you insert the card into the laptop?  Use "tail -20 /var/log/messages" and "dmesg | tail -20" to look at the system log and the kernel ring buffer
[06:32] <Bilford> benplaut- Ark ?
[06:32] <pyrotic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13968 ----------- anybody?
[06:32] <benplaut> k
[06:32] <Diego> Well I only have 11 GB free, so I was didnt want to take up to much space from my WINDOWS installation
[06:32] <orbin> h3h_timo: yep, thanks...why does ff see 1.5 though if it wasnt the default?
[06:32] <Diego> alright, ill try it with 7
[06:32] <Diego> Thanks for the help
[06:32] <Bilford> pyrotic-  That how-To guide seemd to have lots of info.  did you read it all
[06:33] <Madpilot> Diego, Ubuntu takes around 1.8Gb for a basic install, but you'll need space to add new apps, and for a /home area
[06:33] <pyrotic> bilford yes I did, but I'm stuck at this install part because it keeps saying trying to overwrite, the file that is not there, because mfc420cnlpr has it also..
[06:33] <partin> tail -20 /var/log/messages
[06:33] <high-freq> pyrotic: check out line 006
[06:33] <Managu> partin: hehe, at a console =p
[06:33] <high-freq> looks like its mispelled or somethin ...so someone might have compiled it wrong
[06:33] <high-freq> trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/brprintconfij2', which is also in package mfc420cnlpr
[06:33] <partin> managu, yea i know ;-)
[06:33] <high-freq> see if u have a brprintconfij2  in /usr/bin
[06:33] <h3h_timo> i dunno the system and ff must have different ways of seeing the newest version u know? maybe ff just automatically recognized it, while ubuntu didnt
[06:34] <Apostle^> Bilford, not liking usenet so far lol
[06:34] <pyrotic> high-freq I did.. I deleted the brprintconfij2
[06:34] <Diego> Madpilot, Do you think that 7 then woul be enough?
[06:34] <Managu> pyrotic: you could try to force it (dpkg --force-overwrites), but that's a _bad_, _bad_ idea, unless you know what you're doing, or just don't care about trashing your system
[06:34] <high-freq> might be a bad deb file then ;(
[06:34] <mikomiko> this is more getting frequent, my firefox shuts down once in a while, how do i know if there is something causing it
[06:34] <liquidindian> How do I find the debian package I installed?
[06:34] <mikomiko> i dont know why it is acting up
[06:34] <Madpilot> Diego, should be, if you're keeping most of your files in your Windows partition for now
[06:35] <pyrotic> managu I do care.. :P
[06:35] <Bilford> Apostle^-   maybe try  http://www.newzbin.com/
[06:35] <holycow> mikomiko, i would be willing to bet you have tons of extensions installed
[06:35] <Diego> Madpilot, do you think 7GB would be enoguh?
[06:35] <Madpilot> Diego, it should be, yes
[06:35] <mikomiko> tons of extensions? I do not even know what is meant by extensions
[06:35] <mikomiko> lol
[06:35] <partin> managu, it does not show up. this is strange. I have had this card working in this laptop before where a 'ifup ra0' would bring it up.
[06:36] <Diego> thank you
[06:36] <Apostle^> Bilford, whats that
[06:36] <pyrotic> should I try to force it? :S
[06:36] <holycow> mikomiko, in that case thats not the problem :)
[06:36] <mikomiko> how do i reinstall my firefox
[06:36] <Bilford> Apostle^- Search engine for Usenet
[06:36] <Apostle^> Bilford, can i download from that website? music files
[06:36] <holycow> sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox
[06:37] <Managu> partin: does sound kinda odd.  Can I presume that you've got some other pc-card (not necessarily a network card) that's working?
[06:37] <Bilford> Apostle^-  do you have cable?
[06:37] <pyrotic> -http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13968- anybody else?
[06:37] <Apostle^> Bilford, yea
[06:37] <metatag> exit
[06:37] <metatag> quit
[06:37] <partin> managu, yep. i'm on the laptop now. just not wirelessly.
[06:38] <pyrotic> managu should I force it? :S
[06:38] <Bilford> Apostle^-  You should probably just wait for the headers to download.  with cable it shouldnt be too long.  its a one-time deal for the group
[06:38] <Managu> pyrotic: at your own risk.  It's probably not a very large risk -- but you might do a simulation first.  Errm, lemme see...
[06:39] <Diego> What is a good, free partioning tool to create the 7GB partition?
[06:39] <mikomiko> what are the leading browsers for ubuntu
[06:39] <JustinH> Does anyone know of a mirror for EasyUbuntu??  The weblink in the Forum is down.
[06:39] <mikomiko> aside from firefox
[06:39] <orbin> ok, azureus tried to update but i get: version 1.8.3 of plugin 'azupdater' failed to install - Invalid ZIP-file
[06:39] <Bilford> orbin-  It still works
[06:39] <orbin> Bilford: that's normal?
[06:39] <orbin> :-/
[06:39] <Bilford> orbin- I got that error
[06:39] <Bilford> orbin- Im sure theres a way to fix it, but it works , so i didnt bother
[06:39] <pyrotic> managu I just built this comp a year ago I don't need ntohin' screwed up on it.. so if it's going to harm hardware or something, I won't do it.. but.. it seems quite harmless as t is just a printer install..
[06:40] <orbin> Bilford: oh, ok.. lol
[06:40] <Wirwing> hey, i need help with Mplayer :S
[06:40] <Managu> pyrotic: oh, the idea is that this would mess up your software.  It won't be any more risky than normal for your hardware
[06:40] <Hobbsee> nalioth: any idea on JustinH's question?
[06:40] <Apostle^> Bilford, when i find something on newzbin how do i download it
[06:40] <pyrotic> managu ok.. I'm willing to try it... just this one...
[06:41] <high-freq> pyrotic: wait
[06:41] <high-freq> pyrotic: have u checked out this...   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105703
[06:41] <pyrotic> high-freq ok
[06:41] <Managu> partin: wish I had any other ideas for you =(
[06:41] <voraistos> hey people. I have too ubuntu machines, and i want to boot one through the network, with the other one... is it possible ?
[06:41] <voraistos> two*
[06:41] <nalioth> JustinH: may i suggest you join #easyubuntu.  sometimes late breaking info is in the /topic there
[06:41] <pyrotic> high-freq that's where I'm at, but when I go to install the lpr driver, I get this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13968 -
[06:42] <high-freq> hmm
[06:42] <JustinH> @ nalioth : ok, thank you
[06:42] <Bilford> Apostle^- Newzbin is a subscription service
[06:42] <mikomiko> how do i install OPERA in ubuntu
[06:43] <Apostle^> Bilford, ahh.......
[06:43] <Diego> Can some one help me?
[06:43] <Apostle^> !opera
[06:43] <ubotu> opera is, like, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[06:43] <partin> managu, i'm gonna try a cold boot with the pc-card installed.
[06:43] <pyrotic> high-freq any ideas.. ?
[06:43] <pyrotic> high-freq shold I force it?
[06:43] <high-freq> well thats got to be a deb issue then
[06:43] <Diego> I want to create a 7GB partition for Ubuntu, can I do that through UBUNTU or do I need to download a 3rd party application?
[06:43] <high-freq> ya try and force it
[06:43] <pyrotic> high-freq ok, what's the command to force it.. just force install?
[06:44] <high-freq> not sure
[06:44] <orbin> Diego: is this pre-install or post-install?
[06:44] <pyrotic> high-freq ok I'll try..
[06:44] <Diego> pre-install
[06:44] <Diego> I havent done it yet, and Im on windows right now
[06:44] <Diego> I
[06:44] <Diego> I've already downloaded the ISO and burned it to a CD
[06:44] <orbin> ubotu: tell Diego about dualboot
[06:44] <Managu> Diego: <standard gloom-and-doom disclaimer>  I know that the dapper live cd had a nice partitioner which claims to be able to resize (just about anything)
[06:44] <voraistos> diego: u should format the whole disk ;)
[06:44] <mikomiko> my opera file is in desktop
[06:44] <mikomiko> how do i install it
[06:45] <samuli> gparted in dapper's live cd borged my partition when I tried to resize, so beware
[06:45] <pyrotic> managu ok.. how do I force it then?
[06:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell mikomiko about opera
[06:46] <high-freq> pyrotic:  maybe  dpkg --force-overwrite -i  blahblah.deb
[06:46] <mikomiko> i have downloaded it
[06:46] <mikomiko> i just want to install it
[06:46] <Managu> pyrotic: "sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i <package-name>", where you replace <package-name> with the appropriate filename
[06:46] <voraistos> mikomiko: just us the wiki, everything is there ;)
[06:46] <mikomiko> When i type sudo dpkg -i opera<Tab key>.deb
[06:46] <Trashcan> lol kernel panic from pasting text
[06:47] <Trashcan> gg beta os
[06:47] <mikomiko> where is the terminal looking for the file
[06:47] <Apostle^> mikomiko, in the current dir
[06:47] <mikomiko> coz the file i downloaded is in the desktop
[06:47] <voraistos> mikomiko: ?
[06:47] <yorkdan> hey all
[06:47] <Apostle^> mikomiko, cd ~/Desktop
[06:47] <voraistos> lol
[06:47] <pyrotic> managu GAH! - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13969
[06:47] <yorkdan> A quick Question I have just installed webmin... was wondering what the default login details are for root or any user?
[06:48] <high-freq> yorkdan: i think its your usernam and password
[06:48] <Managu> pyrotic: are you sure those packages weren't meant to be mutually exclusive?
[06:48] <yorkdan> I tried that with no luck
[06:48] <Wirwing> when i try to open a .asf video (Vdeo Microsoft ASF), it shows me "ERROR: Itcould open required directshow codec wmvd codec.dll", "MPlayer interrupted by Signal 11 in Module: decode_video", Mplayer crashed by bad usager of CPU/FPU/RAM. Recompile MPlayer with --enable debug and make a 'gdb' backtrace and disssembly. Details in DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports_what.htm#bugreports_crash", "-MPlayer crashed. This souldn't happen. It can be a bug in the Mplayer code_o
[06:49] <GliderMike> IIRC Ubuntu has webmin disabled by default.  You can get around it by.....memory going here.  Google it and you will find the answer
[06:49] <pyrotic> managu see I've done so many attempts at installing this that I have shit scattered all over the place, and I'm sure some is showing up where they shouldn't be yet... and damnit I need this printer installed :|
[06:49] <Bilford> yorkdan   try root with no pw
[06:49] <GaiaX11> How to install skype?
[06:49] <voraistos> wirwing: i had the same just yesterday :(
[06:49] <high-freq> Wirwing: have u tried the win32codecs?
[06:49] <yorkdan> ok ill try now
[06:49] <GliderMike> I think you have to add your username to the "shadow" group or some such
[06:49] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell yorkdan about webmin
[06:50] <partin> managu, after power cycling, lspci now shows the card.
[06:50] <liquidindian> I've just installed a debian package, and it's not on the menu.  How do I go about putting it there?
[06:50] <Wirwing> high-freq: sudo aptitude install win32codecs?
[06:50] <yorkdan> why is webmin no longer suppported by ubuntu?
[06:50] <Managu> partin: oh, cool, that's definitely progress
[06:50] <samuli> GaiaX11, there's debian package at skype's website.
[06:50] <voraistos> wirwing: winmedia codecs are not fully suported, did u try with VLC ?
[06:50] <Wirwing> voraistos: and what i should do? how i can fix this? :S
[06:50] <|Sivik|> i order to view flash, don't i need to install the flashplugin-nonfree
[06:50] <GaiaX11> I have this package
[06:50] <GliderMike> no idea why on webmine, other than I think they figure the included tools should do it.
[06:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Wirwing about w32codecs
[06:50] <mikomiko> i got this problem
[06:50] <mikomiko> Unpacking replacement opera ...
[06:50] <mikomiko> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:
[06:50] <mikomiko>  opera depends on xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) | xlibs; however:
[06:50] <mikomiko>   Package xlib6g is not installed.
[06:50] <samuli> gaia, the just type sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[06:51] <Apostle^> Bilford, 38% :\
[06:51] <nalioth> mikomiko: please read the /topic and don't paste in here
[06:51] <voraistos> wirwing: if it doesnt work with VLC, it wont work. certainly your wmv is protected
[06:51] <high-freq> Wirwing: not too sure on that one....i just did search on win32codecs and nada....but i thought there's a wiki on it
[06:51] <partin> managu, but very troubling. i'd like to be able to hotplug the card.
[06:51] <Badm4n> i'm curious about 1 thing
[06:51] <high-freq> !win32codecs
[06:51] <ubotu> [win32codecs]  binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[06:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mikomiko about opera
[06:51] <Bilford> Apostle^, well, you can abort and I'll show you an easier way
[06:51] <Managu> pyrotic: I'd suggest going forward from that point in the howto (those messages are just what you told dpkg to do).  If it eventually still doesn't work ... well, then you might want to purge both packages ("sudo dpkg --purge <packagename>") and start over
[06:51] <Apostle^> Bilford, how?
[06:51] <Wirwing> high-freq: and how i can install VLC?
[06:52] <GaiaX11> But when i do dpkg -i skype ... it complains about libqt3c102 ...
[06:52] <Managu> partin: could it have been a one time fluke?  If you remove and reinstall the card, does it disappear for lspci?
[06:52] <nalioth> Wirwing: sudo apt-get remove vlc
[06:52] <Badm4n> i do apt-get install apache then this morning i do apt-get remove apache then i use apt-get install apache2 . apache folder still exist.is this might be a prob ?
[06:52] <Bilford> can you cancel the update in the Quueue
[06:52] <high-freq> Wirwing: not sure...i don't have much on laptop...hehe
[06:52] <jay> join #ruby-lang
[06:52] <Bilford> Apostle^ can you cancel the update in the Quueue
[06:52] <|Sivik|> i need help with flash
[06:52] <voraistos> mikomiko: u have to install the missing package
[06:52] <Apostle^> Bilford, how do i get the music then
[06:52] <hollowlife1987> Wirwing: if vlc dont work you _could_ try installing wine and then windows media player
[06:52] <Bilford> Apostle^ can you cancel the update in the Quueue
[06:53] <GaiaX11> and then i do dpkg -i libqt ... and it says that have conflict with libqt3mt
[06:53] <Apostle^> Bilford, done
[06:53] <Bilford> ok, is it listing anything
[06:53] <voraistos> mikomiko: try with synaptics
[06:53] <GaiaX11> So, it does not install
[06:53] <Badm4n> help me ok ?
[06:53] <GaiaX11> Then what to do?
[06:53] <Bilford> Apostle^- is there a window showing the headers it downloaded alreadY?
[06:53] <Apostle^> Bilford, yea
[06:53] <Wirwing> nalioth: sudo apt-get REMOVE? vlc ??
[06:54] <liquidindian> What's the equivalent of the program files folder in linux?
[06:54] <Bilford> Apostle^-  try to download some
[06:54] <Bilford> Apostle^ some songs
[06:54] <Apostle^> Bilford, how do i search
[06:54] <pyrotic> managu well.. I did finish the install and it shows MFC210C as a printer, but that's not my printer .. mines an MFC420CN...
[06:54] <|Sivik|> hi all again
[06:54] <high-freq> Badm4n: ya i noticed apt-get remove  doesn't get rid of the folders...try aptitude purge apache   that might....otherwise good ol  rm -r
[06:54] <|Sivik|> i need help with flash
[06:54] <Bilford> Apostle^- theres a search filter at the top
[06:54] <partin> managu, yes. lspci shows the card gone when it is removed, and it shows it when i put it back in.
[06:54] <voraistos> wirwing: just go on synaptics, and select the gnome front end. it will install VLC perfectly
[06:54] <Badm4n> yes it working
[06:55] <Managu> partin: how odd =/
[06:55] <Badm4n> on progress rite now
[06:55] <Badm4n> ty ty
[06:55] <partin> managu, agree.
[06:55] <Managu> pyrotic: be sure to do a test print, see if it's working
[06:55] <high-freq> should just do  apt-get install gnome-vlc    it should d/l the deps for it too...like vlc and such
[06:55] <Wirwing> voraistos: thanks :)
[06:55] <Apostle^> Bilford, in find a type stuff in hit enter, but nothing happen
[06:55] <pyrotic> managu I did, but it didn't print nothing..
[06:55] <Managu> pyrotic: oh, hrrm, well, that howto was for a brother 210C, heh
[06:56] <mikomiko> after seeing Setting up xlibs (6.8.2-77.1) ...
[06:56] <mikomiko>  i see the prompt back
[06:56] <Bilford> Apostle^- better to scroll through the headers and find things you like.   if you want to search and download things, youre better off with aMule
[06:56] <mikomiko> does it means it is finished?
[06:56] <high-freq> anyone know how to fix a  prism2_config() failed  error...i see that in dmesg
[06:56] <pyrotic> managu yea but it apparently should work for my 420CN... but it doesn't :@
[06:56] <voraistos> mikomiko. no
[06:56] <voraistos> mikomiko: install the deb package again.
[06:56] <Bilford> Apostle^- If you have no patience, Usenet isnt for you
[06:56] <pyrotic> managu and it says "printing jobs"... but it never prints
[06:56] <Managu> pyrotic: what makes you think that those drivers should work for your 420n?
[06:57] <Badm4n> root@safana:/home/mirza/public_html# cd /etc/apache
[06:57] <Badm4n> apache/  apache2/
[06:57] <Badm4n> still exist
[06:57] <pyrotic> managu a few forums stated the 210C should work fine for the 420CN
[06:57] <voraistos> mikomiko: once u installed the opera.deb without error, it will work
[06:57] <pyrotic> managu and well, they don't, so.. any ideas now?....
[06:57] <Apostle^> Bilford, okay i found something now, how do i view the message?
[06:57] <Managu> pyrotic: how's the 420 connected to your printer?
[06:57] <Managu> pyrotic: errm, to your computer
[06:58] <Managu> pyrotic: (past my bedtime)
[06:58] <nalioth> mikomiko: if you want opera to work, you need to download the 'static other deb' from the download page
[06:58] <Bilford> Apostle^- Select it, and Ctrl+D
[06:58] <Madpilot> nalioth, the regular Ubuntu deb should work - it does for me
[06:58] <Apostle^> Bilford, .par2 ?
[06:58] <pyrotic> managu haha, no worries, well, I have the USB hooked up right now, but I can also hook it to my router.. it has NIC O it..
[06:58] <h3h_timo> how can i change the firefox icons to the original firefox logos
[06:58] <pyrotic> on*
[06:59] <mikomiko> i surrender
[06:59] <Managu> pyrotic: ok, and if you run "lsusb" at the console, is your printer listed?
[06:59] <mikomiko> it is not easy as i thought it is
[06:59] <Bilford> Apostle^  if you dont know what a par is, just ignore those
[06:59] <voraistos> mikomiko: no u dont ;)
[06:59] <pyrotic> managu no, it is not, only my Saitek controller, and Microsoft OPtical mouse, are listed.. the rest say 00000
[06:59] <voraistos> mikomiko: are u a registered freenode user ?
[07:00] <Managu> pyrotic: ok, that's the first problem to sove
[07:00] <mikomiko> no
[07:00] <pyrotic> managu Ok... and how do I go about solving this problem..
[07:00] <Managu> pyrotic: make sure all the cords are happy, then power-cycle your printer
[07:00] <voraistos> mikomiko: ok, so no pm
[07:00] <Apostle^> Bilford, i don't see the music just .txt and .par2 files
[07:00] <mikomiko> ok
[07:00] <pyrotic> managu they are perfectly fine... power-cycle it?
[07:00] <mikomiko> now i registered
[07:00] <mikomiko> just finished doing so
[07:00] <nalioth> Apostle^: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:00] <Managu> pyrotic: power-cycle = turn off, then turn on
[07:00] <Wirwing> whats the difference between "VLC for Gnome" and "VLC for Gtk+"???
[07:01] <voraistos> mikomiko:pm me to test ;)
[07:01] <Bilford> Apostle^- I dont know.  maybe Cox filters out the music lol
[07:01] <pyrotic> managu ok, done.
[07:01] <Apostle^> Bilford, i don't use cox
[07:01] <Wirwing> what i should install?
[07:01] <pyrotic> managu there it is listed now
[07:01] <TheCarl> does anybody know of any video editing programs that work with ubuntu that is compatible with MPEG
[07:01] <TheCarl> ?
[07:01] <Bilford> Apostle^- I mean Comcast
[07:01] <Managu> pyrotic: okies.
[07:01] <Managu> pyrotic: try test printing again
[07:02] <nalioth> voraistos: mikomiko is not registered.
[07:02] <pyrotic> Still nothing.
[07:02] <Bilford> but it's more likely a problem on your end, since you had millions of headers to download.  that would imply binaries
[07:02] <Wirwing> whats the difference between "VLC for Gnome" and "VLC for Gtk+"??? What i should install?
[07:02] <Apostle^> Bilford, think i figured it out ..
[07:02] <Bilford> the 2nd one
[07:02] <mikomiko> Is there any browsers for ubuntu aside from firefox
[07:02] <Managu> pyrotic: I'm not incredibly familiar with cups.  If you run "lpq" from the command line, do you see anything?
[07:02] <Bilford> Wirwing- it says the first one isnt supported
[07:03] <Bilford> or discontinued
[07:03] <Managu> mikomiko: a few.  Konquerer, for instance
[07:03] <nalioth> mikomiko: konqueror, links2, galeon, kazehakase, epiphany-browser, opera, and more
[07:03] <pyrotic> MFC-210C is Ready
[07:03] <orbin> TheCarl: don't know if they're compatible, but the only two i've heard of are kino and cinelerra (sp)
[07:03] <TheCarl> I tried Kino, didn't work, so I'll try cinelerra, thanks.
[07:03] <mikomiko> which among them are easy to install
[07:03] <Blue89> I have a ext2 filesystem that works fine, but fails fsck because it thinks it is bigger than it is. how do I fix this and/or the fsck fail at boot?
[07:03] <nalioth> mikomiko: with synaptic, they are all easy to install
[07:04] <pyrotic> managu MFC-210C is Ready
[07:04] <Managu> pyrotic: ok
[07:04] <orbin> TheCarl: /msg ubotu cinelerra
[07:04] <Managu> pyrotic: let's re-do the howto, just to humor me
[07:04] <Badm4n> high-freq :
[07:04] <Managu> pyrotic: first, let's undo the previous install
[07:04] <Badm4n> high-freq : aptitude purge apache
[07:04] <Badm4n> not work
[07:05] <pyrotic> managu ok, step by step please.. I'm a newb :)
[07:05] <Badm4n> still have folder apache
[07:05] <high-freq> hmm
[07:05] <partin> new question? where can i get libdvdcss? apt-get install libdvdcss fails.
[07:05] <high-freq> ok then remove it by hand
[07:05] <Managu> pyrotic: as best as I can synthisize
[07:05] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell partin about dvd
[07:05] <Kyral> !restricted
[07:05] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:05] <high-freq> partin: try searching it... apt-cache search  <package-name>
[07:05] <pyrotic> managu I'm not SO stupid that you need to explain what dpkg means.. but you get the idea of newb :P
[07:05] <pyrotic> managu but.. anyways, what do I do first.
[07:05] <Managu> pyrotic: "sudo apt-get remove mfc210clpr"
[07:06] <pyrotic> managu done.
[07:06] <Managu> pyrotic: also "sudo apt-get remove mfc210cnlpr"
[07:06] <high-freq> Badm4n: or u can use synaptic and do it from there...if its still highlighted then click to remove ..and then click remove all
[07:06] <Bilford> if everything in Linux is free, how does anyone make money
[07:06] <Managu> pyrotic: be sure to inform about any errors or problems
[07:06] <Badm4n> high-freq : how to locate apache only ( not include apache2 )
[07:06] <pyrotic> managu So far, so good.
[07:06] <partin> high-freq, i get hits for libdvdread3, gxine and ogle.
[07:06] <orbin> synaptic has a nice log of actions taken. does apt-get log stuff too?
[07:07] <high-freq> Badm4n: should be in /etc/apache  not /etc/apache2
[07:07] <|Sivik|> !flash
[07:07] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:07] <Badm4n> high-freq : i'm on server mode
[07:07] <Managu> pyrotic: also remove the cups wrapper; "sudo apt-get remove cupswrapper210c"
[07:07] <Madpilot> Bilford, by selling it to folks who don't want to do all this setup, or by providing tech support
[07:07] <Managu> pyrotic: one sec
[07:07] <high-freq> oh
[07:07] <TheCarl> does anybody know how to register a nick/channel on this server?
[07:07] <pyrotic> couldn't find cupswrapper210c
[07:07] <Bilford> maddler- The software writers?
[07:07] <high-freq> u can't do rm -r /etc/apache/
[07:07] <Blue89> Bilford, or by using linux to power a service, like web hosting afaik
[07:07] <Managu> pyrotic: once that's done (oops, my mistake), let's purge everything from them too
[07:08] <high-freq> TheCarl: try /msg nickserv help  or /msg chanserv help
[07:08] <Badm4n> high-freq : i mean all apache ( no include apache2 ) include the /etc /usr/share
[07:08] <TheCarl> thanks
[07:08] <Badm4n> so i want to locate itu
[07:08] <Badm4n> so i want to locate it
[07:08] <Managu> pyrotic: repeat the last 3 sudo commands with a "--purge" before the remove
[07:08] <Managu> pyrotic: they may complain about already having been removed; if so, don't worry bout it
[07:08] <pyrotic> managu but it didn't remove cupswrapper210c because it couldn't find it.. ?
[07:08] <Managu> pyrotic: hrmm, ok
[07:08] <high-freq> Badm4n: hmm...lemme check aptitude real quick
[07:09] <Managu> pyrotic: "apt-cache search cupswrapper"
[07:09] <pyrotic> cupswrappermfc210c - Brother MFC210C CUPS wrapper driver
[07:09] <pyrotic> cupswrappermfc420cn - Brother MFC420CN CUPS wrapper driver
[07:09] <Managu> pyrotic: looks like I copied the name wrong -- it's just the package name from the howto without the version information
[07:10] <Managu> pyrotic: yup.  "sudo apt-get --purge remove <name>" for each of those
[07:10] <h3h_timo> !kopete
[07:10] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[07:10] <h3h_timo> can you run kopete in the gnome windows environment?
[07:10] <hyperstream> how does one go about emulation of a dvd reader drive? to bypass a cd check in cedega(i only have a cdrom therefore i made a .mdf(iso))
[07:10] <|Sivik|> anyone else having problems with the flash server currently?
[07:10] <high-freq> Badm4n: hmm...aptitude autoclean  ???
[07:10] <Bilford> Apostle^- did you successfully download and play anything
[07:11] <high-freq> Badm4n: hmm  aptitude purge   shoulda done the job
[07:11] <Apostle^> Bilford, i downloaded a song but it woldn't play
[07:11] <Managu> pyrotic: now, it's interesting that you've got packages for the 420C/N from somewhere
[07:11] <NateBHere> Hello
[07:11] <Bilford> Apostle^ flac?
[07:11] <orbin> h3h_timo: yes, you can run any kde apps in gnome and vice versa
[07:11] <Apostle^> Bilford, yea
[07:11] <Bilford> Apostle^- maybe try  XMMS
[07:11] <NateBHere> Man I'm learning all kinds of stuff first time I've use IRC
[07:11] <orbin> h3h_timo: apt will grab the kde libraries it needs for you
[07:11] <pyrotic> managu because I tried to install it before.. and failed miserably.
[07:11] <Apostle^> Bilford, amarok plays them
[07:11] <h3h_timo> thank you i was wondering about that for a while... thanks
[07:12] <h3h_timo> i just installed ubuntu yesterday
[07:12] <h3h_timo> and im already in love with it
[07:12] <pyrotic> managu ok, they are all removed and purged
[07:12] <Badm4n> same
[07:12] <Badm4n> high-freq : still exist
[07:12] <high-freq> hmm
[07:12] <Badm4n> root@safana:/home/mirza/public_html# /etc/apache
[07:12] <Badm4n> apache/  apache2/
[07:12] <high-freq> too bad u can't get into synaptic ;(
[07:12] <orbin> h3h_timo: awesome welcome
[07:12] <Managu> pyrotic: a lot of this is guesswork on my part.  I'm looking over the web sites you pointed at.  Give me a sec
[07:12] <pyrotic> managu Alright.
[07:13] <high-freq> Badm4n: well if someoen doesn't know how to get apt to auto clean the files that it installs...u know removing everything it installs....then i'm not sure...either that or just rm -r  them ;(
[07:13] <pyrotic> managu if it helps, it does recognize the right printer in the lsusb
[07:13] <Badm4n> yeah i install my ubuntu using server mode
[07:13] <Badm4n> high-freq okie
[07:13] <Badm4n> one more pls
[07:13] <NateBHere> Can any one help me I am trying to run a "Ubuntu Live" Install on my Compaq Presario v5000.  It keeps bailing out when it gets to the display adapter "X Server"
[07:13] <Badm4n> postfix now
[07:13] <Managu> pyrotic: that's good.  At least your computer can see the printer now
[07:13] <h3h_timo> orbin, i was also interested in what programs you would recommend that i should make sure i have installed, if there are any
[07:14] <pyrotic> managu but.. when I tried to rmove the 420cn driver, i got an error.
[07:14] <NateBHere> If I am folloeing the logic I think it has something to due with the wide screen montitor
[07:14] <Managu> pyrotic: oh?  pastebin the error?
[07:14] <high-freq> sorry bud
[07:14] <yorkdan> When i change a file in the webmin directory so i can use webmin it wont let me save it. how can i save a file with admin rights as im just editing some stuff in it?
[07:14] <pyrotic> managu one sec, pating
[07:14] <orbin> h3h_timo: depends what you do..i like gqview as an image manager....and frozen bubble is great for killing time :)
[07:14] <pyrotic> managu pasting*
[07:14] <Badm4n> posfix problem : i got bounce mail how to cancel it... every time i start postfix the old proses still exist even i apt-get remove postfix then apt-get install postfix
[07:15] <pyrotic> managu - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13972 -
[07:15] <linux_galore> Badm4n: installing postfix doesn remove the config files thats why
[07:15] <Bilford> yorkdan, maybe run it with  sudo webmin
[07:15] <orbin> h3h_timo: ummm, i also use thunderbird as a mail client over evo
[07:15] <h3h_timo> well... i would like to get intro programming and learning alot more about linux... and i watch movies and listen to music.. and i like to have tools for downloading.. right now im finishing installing azureus
[07:15] <yorkdan> ok thanks
[07:15] <Badm4n> how to remove my old process ? linux_galore
[07:15] <h3h_timo> yeah.. i think i installed that too
[07:16] <h3h_timo> can you uninstall evo?
[07:16] <linux_galore> Badm4n: remove the config files
[07:16] <linux_galore> Badm4n: usually under /etc
[07:16] <Managu> pyrotic: ok, let's clean that up first
[07:16] <orbin> h3h_timo: we'll find out...i'll do it right now :)
[07:17] <pyrotic> managu alright.. how to do so?
[07:17] <h3h_timo> orbin, okay you tell me if you can do it
[07:17] <linux_galore> Badm4n: are you trying to stop postfix or installa a new version ??
[07:17] <Managu> pyrotic: first thing, there seem to be some odd links to brother printer libraries.  LEt's get rid of them.  "sudo rm -f /usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so*"
[07:17] <orbin> h3h_timo: removed. dunno if it was safe to do so though (maybe something depended on it)
[07:17] <orbin> h3h_timo: but apt didn't warn me so i assume it was ok
[07:18] <Badm4n> linux_galore : to make my postfix refresh... no old proses no etc etc
[07:18] <orbin> h3h_timo: anyway, i got 35mb back :)
[07:18] <h3h_timo> how'd ya do it?
[07:18] <Wirwing> i have a big problem here :S
[07:18] <linux_galore> Badm4n: restarting posfix does that
[07:18] <orbin> h3h_timo: sudo apt-get remove evolution
[07:18] <orbin> h3h_timo: you can do it via synaptic if you wish
[07:18] <NateBHere> Having trouble installing Ubuntu Live, some sort of issue with X Server.  Running in Compaq Presario V5000.
[07:18] <h3h_timo> k thanks.. ummm can you explain about the whole apt-get thing
[07:18] <h3h_timo> what is it?
[07:18] <Managu> pyrotic: after that, we want apt go get rid of the 420cn package.  We had to force the other package in, so we'll have to force this one out.
[07:19] <Badm4n> linux_galore : nope ... my postfix still bouncing
[07:19] <Wirwing> i try to open any video file, but i cant see anything only lisnte the audiotrack..... :S
[07:19] <pyrotic> managu k, removed.
[07:19] <h3h_timo> orbin, can i pm you so i dont have to overlook all this other text?
[07:19] <Screevo> anyone here good with route or iptables?
[07:19] <orbin> h3h_timo: sure
[07:19] <linux_galore> Badm4n: /etc/init.d/postfix restart
[07:19] <Wirwing> i have installed Totem, LVC, MPlayer, but it doesnt work
[07:19] <pyrotic> managu ok, how to remove it is the question.
[07:20] <Managu> pyrotic: "sudo dpkg --purge --force-all mfc420cnlpr"
[07:20] <linux_galore> Badm4n: then you have a config problem
[07:20] <orbin> Wirwing: totem-xine + w32 codecs?
[07:20] <Wirwing> i only can hear the audio, but not see the video itself... :S
[07:20] <Badm4n> config ?
[07:20] <h3h_timo> guess i cant do that
[07:20] <Badm4n> i got bounce cause i sent to large files that rejected from isp
[07:20] <Badm4n> :(
[07:20] <orbin> h3h_timo: are you regged and id'ed?
[07:20] <linux_galore> Badm4n: yes postfix is a complex service you have to tell it what you want it to do
[07:20] <h3h_timo> nope
[07:20] <h3h_timo> orbin, how do you register?
[07:20] <Managu> pyrotic: dpkg should complain (these things always complain when forced), but it should do it
[07:20] <muraii> Is there a difference between installing the Gtk libraries that a particular app might require, and installing the Gnome desktop system?  So, assume something like Matlab requires UI elements from the Gtk2 libraries: is it likely that I'll just need to throw the full gnome-desktop package set on my machine (even if I run a window manager naked)?
[07:20] <Badm4n> sorry paste 3 lines ppl
[07:20] <Badm4n> root     20391  0.0  0.7   4264  1512 ?        Ss   12:20   0:00 /usr/lib/postfix/master
[07:20] <Badm4n> postfix  20393  0.0  0.7   4276  1440 ?        S    12:20   0:00 pickup -l -t fifo -u -c
[07:20] <Badm4n> postfix  20394  0.0  0.7   4308  1464 ?        S    12:20   0:00 qmgr -l -t fifo -u -c
[07:21] <linux_galore> Badm4n: isp is nothing to do with postfix
[07:21] <Badm4n> is that normal ?
[07:21] <orbin> h3h_timo: /msg nickserv register <password>
[07:21] <Managu> muraii: there is a difference, yes
[07:21] <pyrotic> managu pastbine again.. 8-)
[07:21] <orbin> h3h_timo: then /msg nickserv identify <password> to identify ... you can set up xchat to auto-identify for you
[07:21] <muraii> I know it's sort of a goofy question.  I don't know enough about the stuff to better articulate the point.
[07:21] <Managu> pyrotic: ok
[07:21] <pyrotic> managu - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13973 -
[07:22] <h3h_timo> k im registered
[07:22] <muraii> Managu: Thanks.  Basically, I want to not at all install Gnome or KDE, but I don't want that to cripple app choices.
[07:22] <Managu> pyrotic: hrmm.  If you repeat the last command, do you get the same output
[07:22] <Badm4n> postfix done
[07:22] <Badm4n> ty ty
[07:23] <Badm4n> ilohamail <-- anyone know about this ?
[07:23] <Managu> muraii: you can install all of the libraries for gnome and kde without getting either desktop environment
[07:23] <Managu> muraii: some gnome (resp. KDE) applications will require more or less of the said libraries
[07:24] <muraii> Managu: I figured as such.  There really aren't that many apps that require the desktop environment itself, though, right?  Just the proper libraries?
[07:24] <muraii> I know it's a fine line...
[07:24] <NateBHere> Hello, I am having problems running Ubuntu Live.  It setsup pretty well until it needs to deal with my display settings.  At that point there is a configuartion problem of some sort the X Server has a problem propperly working.  I am using a Compaq Presario V5000.
[07:24] <pyrotic> managu same error
[07:24] <Managu> muraii: that's right.
[07:25] <Managu> pyrotic: hrmm, that's annoying.  This is what we get for forcing the issue earlier.  Well, let's see.  If we put dud files in the place where it's trying to delete those oddball files, maybe dpkg will be happy
[07:25] <muraii> NateBHere: Have you checked the ubuntuforums.org?  I remember seeing a whole bunch of threads about a particular video setting that people needed to set to get the LiveCD working.
[07:25] <pyrotic> managu well we can skip that part if you want.. lol..
[07:25] <pyrotic> managu if it prints, that's all that matters to me :)
[07:25] <Managu> pyrotic: so let's do that.  "sudo touch /usr/local/Brother/inf/setupPrintcapij"
[07:26] <Managu> pyrotic: getting things cleanly installed makes it a lot more likely that everything will work.  In my experience.
[07:26] <pyrotic> managu I put in that command, and it just enteredd to the next line...
[07:26] <Managu> pyrotic after the touch line, try the dpkg line again
[07:26] <pyrotic> managu k.
[07:26] <NateBHere> Nope I have not the Install just told me to go to IRC wich wasn't easy, because I have never used it befor.  :0)  so I will check that out thanks
[07:26] <pyrotic> managu same error.
[07:27] <orbin> NateBHere: i know how to possibly fix that w/ an installed system, but not w/ the live cd...basically you're display stuff got detected wrong or you need to use a different driver
[07:27] <Managu> pyrotic: ouch.  Ok, we move on then.  I'm sure we'll get to deal with that error again
[07:27] <pyrotic> managu Sounds good.. what next.. :)
[07:27] <pyrotic> managu I owe you big, for this.
[07:27] <Badm4n> ilohamail <-- anyone know about this ?
[07:27] <Managu> pyrotic.  Let's start the howto.  Turn the printer off, and make sure that "csh" is installed
[07:27] <pyrotic> managu do you have Hotmail?.. might make it easier to chat on aMSN...
[07:27] <pyrotic> csh is installed, I installed earlier today...
[07:27] <pyrotic> managu printer s off..
[07:28] <sstchur> I'm running Xubuntu, and I installed ComixCursor as an icon theme -- but I notice that the cursors only show up in certain applications -- in normal xfce use, they are the traditional icons.  Anyone know why?
[07:28] <Managu> pyrotic: errm, ok, lemme see
[07:28] <zcat[1] > orbin/natebhere: there's an option something like xdisplay=vesa which you use.. try pressing f2 to find it..
[07:28] <Managu> pyrotic: I'm sawalk4@hotmail, but I've never tried to get IM working under linux before
[07:28] <xanavim> other than gnuchess, what is the name of a good chess client?
[07:28] <NateBHere> Well, I'm trying to swich to Linux from windows. But this is turning out to be incredibly dificult.  I'm checking out Ubuntu, because I have been told that it is the best version for using windows designed programs with.
[07:28] <orbin> zcat[1] : ah, excellent.  you can choose the display driver for live?  awesome
[07:28] <pyrotic> managu well, we'll work here hen.. no worries..
[07:28] <pyrotic> managu then*
[07:29] <Managu> pyrotic: your handle on msn?
[07:29] <zcat[1] > I think you can.. I don't really ever use live.
[07:29] <pyrotic> managu unexpected_expectations@hotmail.com
[07:29] <Badm4n> anyone here know about ilohamail ? the script says it add new alias but 404 i get
[07:29] <orbin> zcat[1] : me neither
[07:29] <linux_galore> NateBHere: no Ubuntu is but one of many versions of Linux
[07:29] <NateBHere> There are just too many of my games that I will not give up.
[07:29] <orbin> NateBHere: yeah, you should try the vesa display driver as zcat suggested
[07:29] <linux_galore> NateBHere: then stick with windows
[07:29] <orbin> NateBHere: or dualboot
[07:30] <NateBHere> LOL
[07:30] <xanavim> NateBHere: or buy a cheap supported video card
[07:30] <NateBHere> Kinda hard to change video card on a lap top
[07:30] <voraistos> where is the package list file pls , cant remember :(
[07:30] <Blue89> there are usb videocards
[07:31] <voraistos> Blue89: is that true ?
[07:31] <Blue89> I knew a guy that used a usb sound card in gentoo
[07:31] <Blue89> google it
[07:31] <shalos> but video card?
[07:31] <Blue89> yes
[07:31] <orbin> NateBHere: i have a compaq laptop too...the default ati driver doesn't work, but you can't get the working one unless you install...so use vesa and it should work for you as zcat said
[07:31] <NateBHere> Does anyone think that the problem might be based in the fact that my display panel is a Wide screen?
[07:32] <NateBHere> Cool
[07:32] <NateBHere> I will check that out
[07:32] <Blue89> NateBHere, that would only cause the screen to be stretched or off center
[07:32] <Badm4n> ubuntu tell me about iloha
[07:32] <Badm4n> ubuntu tell me about ilohamail
[07:32] <shalos> yea.. the fglrx drivers should work shouldnt they?
[07:32] <orbin> NateBHere: vesa is sort of a failsafe,  the driver works on pretty much any video card
[07:32] <ubuntu_> how set correct my lcd monitor? SyncMaster 740N
[07:33] <voraistos> Looool: Hi-Resolution up to 1280X1024 at 16-bit Color.
[07:33] <NateBHere> so if I do a full install I can use the specific driver.  but if I just want to try out Ubuntu, using Ubuntu Live I need to use the vesa driver?
[07:34] <shalos> yea because fglrx is proprietary so its not included i think
[07:34] <muraii_> NateBHere: Sorry if you were talking to me.  I've been puttering around on other desktops.  Virtual desktops are things of beauty.
[07:34] <xanavim> what is a compaq presario 5000v?  they don't seem to exist anywhere on the internet
[07:35] <Badm4n> any1 know what is the name of packaged that i can use for my webbased email server that can do pop3 from other server ?
[07:35] <NateBHere> Okay will try that.  Thanks,  surprisingly this is the most helpful and freindly Linux forum I've ever been in.  Most of my experience with Linux users is that they are increadibly rude.
[07:35] <xanavim> NateBHere: you haven't even tried to install Ubuntu yet, and you think you're having a hard time?  lol
[07:35] <shalos> if its anything like the compaq 5000zx i think it was.. ubuntu worked best on it
[07:35] <Blue89> is opengl desktop switching easy to setup on gentoo?
[07:36] <byen> Hey guys.. I upgraded Ubuntu from BB to DD today and my Broadcom wifi card stopped working.. can anyone help me here
[07:36] <Flannel> byen: have you tried #ubuntu+1 ?
[07:36] <byen> ok.. will do :P
[07:37] <Blue89> did I type gentoo?
[07:37] <Blue89> I am losing it here
[07:37] <shalos> think so
[07:37] <Blue89> *smacks self in the head*
[07:37] <Blue89> no wander it got quiet so fast
[07:37] <hyperstream> how does one go about emulation of a dvd reader drive? to bypass a cd check in cedega(i only have a cdrom therefore i made a .mdf(iso))
[07:38] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[07:38] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[07:38] <Blue89> I meant in ubuntu
[07:38] <shalos> opengl.. like XGL?
[07:38] <Blue89> I don't remember the name
[07:38] <shalos> compiz.. wobbly windows and what not?
[07:39] <Blue89> your desktops are sides of cube that rotates when you move mouse off screen
[07:39] <shalos> yea thats compiz
[07:40] <Flannel> Blue89: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:40] <shalos> ya need dapper i think.. theres tons of guides
[07:40] <Flannel> Blue89: it's super easy.
[07:40] <Blue89> Flannel, ok
[07:40] <NateBHere> Well on my old desk top I tried Linspire.  I loved the superior way that the Linux Base OS used the computers hardware it just ran beutifully.  but I could not get any windows emulators or evironment simulators like Wine or Cedega to work so I can play a couple of my games and take advantage of the beter system resource managment.  So I checked around and quite a few people said that Ubuntu will probably work better, So I figured I'd try.
[07:40] <shalos> NateBHere youll definatly need the  fglrx drivers then when ya set it u p
[07:41] <xanavim> NateBHere: if it works with Linspire, it will work with Ubuntu
[07:43] <AppleBoy> this is kind of a shot in the dark, but is anybody in here a doctor and/or pharmacist? (sorry for being off topic, but I really need to find one because the local pharmacy is closed)
[07:44] <xanavim> NateBHere: also, you can check compatibility with Linux before buying a laptop - www.linuxlaptops.com, http://tuxmobil.org/compaq.html, etc.  if you're serious about using Linux then you should check there before buying hardware
[07:44] <NateBHere> That's the thing they wouldn't work under Linspire.  That's why I desided to try Ubuntu, besides the recomendations
[07:44] <Falluccer> hello
[07:45] <Bilford> Im upgrading to Dapper Drake now
[07:45] <shalos> ive had cedega  working on a compaq 5000 zx before.. had  an ati 9600.. worked pretty good
[07:45] <xanavim> AppleBoy: rofl
[07:45] <AppleBoy> xanavim: what?
[07:45] <Bilford> Do Windows games run faster under Cedega than they do on Windows?
[07:46] <NateBHere> that www.linuxlaptops.com does not work.
[07:46] <xanavim> NateBHere: why is that?
[07:47] <AppleBoy> xanavim: what's so funny?
[07:47] <Bilford> whats the question
[07:47] <NateBHere> That is what I am looking to find out Linux seams to use the computer better so I'm hoping that games run better under it
[07:47] <Falluccer> I have a netgear wg111v2 wireless usb adaoter
[07:47] <NateBHere> that link just does not go anywhere
[07:48] <Falluccer> and it only comes with windows drivers
[07:48] <xanavim> NateBHere: linux wasn't designed as a gaming platform per se
[07:48] <NateBHere> I get a cannot find server error
[07:48] <AlmtyBob> I very much doubt windows games run faster on a windows emu
[07:48] <xanavim> NateBHere: that's odd, I just loaded the page
[07:48] <shalos> i dunno nate.. way i understand it cedega emulates windows to  run the games.. that and ati drivers  pretty much suck on linux
[07:48] <Bilford> It seems unlikely, but Ive heard it might be true
[07:48] <Flannel> NateBHere: no www.
[07:49] <NateBHere> try no www?
[07:49] <Bilford> Windows games running faster on Cedega than on Windows
[07:49] <Flannel> yeah.
[07:49] <hyperstream> is there no applications such as fantom cd / deamon tools for linux ?
[07:49] <Falluccer> how do i install the drivers'
[07:49] <Flannel> hyperstream: what do they do?
[07:49] <hyperstream> emulate cd/dvd devices
[07:50] <Falluccer> can i use prism 54
[07:50] <me2win> hyperstream: mount the image
[07:50] <hyperstream> i have
[07:50] <hyperstream> it still asks for me to insert the battle field 2 disk
[07:50] <samuli> someone want to tell me good options to mount another ext3 partition so I'm the owner with all permissions?
[07:50] <hyperstream> ive tryed mount it at /media/cdrom0 as well
[07:51] <hyperstream> mounting*
[07:51] <samuli> for some reason stuff like umask=0007, uid=samuli etc. just gives errors.
[07:52] <_jason> samuli: those options are not valid for ext3, use chown and chmod once the drive is mounted instead
[07:52] <Bilford> did anyone go to the Linux expo in Washington last week
[07:53] <samuli> _jason, any tried chown, but I got the feeling it'd be just lot more easier to have the permissions right in the fstab.
[07:53] <samuli> but g
[07:53] <samuli> I guess that's not possible then?
[07:53] <_jason> samuli: not really, ext3 files can properly use permissions
[07:54] <samuli> so what do you suggest for chmod and chown. I'm already owner of the folder I'm mounting to.
[07:54] <me2win> samuli: you wanna use fstab to do it?
[07:54] <_jason> samuli: once it is mounted, you then modify the permissions
[07:54] <GTroy> I've got a dual head with twin view going.....but now direct rendering
[07:54] <samuli> me2win, I'd prefer that way yes.
[07:55] <GTroy> sorry no direct rendering
[07:56] <shalos> gtroy what drivers are you tryin to use?
[07:56] <GTroy> 8156
[07:56] <me2win> samuli: try this:    /dev/hdXX /mount/point rw 0 #
[07:56] <Badm4n> any1 know what the name of packaged of webmail that support pop3 ? not imap like squirel
[07:56] <GTroy> shalos, the newest ones
[07:56] <Badm4n> any1 know what the name of packaged of webmail that support pop3 ? not imap like squirel/horde
[07:56] <GTroy> came out like 2 weeks ago
[07:56] <samuli> me2win, but that makes it available for everyone to mess around, doesn't it?
[07:57] <shalos> nvidia then
[07:57] <GTroy> shalos, wouldn't have any other carrd
[07:57] <shalos> haha i agree
[07:57] <me2win> sampan: yeah, sorry, thought thats what you wanted
[07:57] <apew> #pancabudi
[07:58] <GTroy> !twinview
[07:58] <ubotu> GTroy: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:58] <GTroy> !dri
[07:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GTroy
[07:58] <samuli> me2win, I have the 'rw' option there now, but I'd prefer to be only one to write there.
[07:58] <shalos> take it xorg.conf is all settup right?
[07:58] <GTroy> so far
[07:58] <popey> Badm4n: why pop3?
[07:58] <GTroy> dual head seems fine
[07:58] <GTroy> different res, but that's ok
[07:58] <Badm4n> i need to create like a cosmo.com that can pop3 from my other server
[07:59] <shalos> the nvidia line in devices and all that.. not nv..
[07:59] <Bilford> 22 min until Dapper Dan is finished
[07:59] <me2win> samuli: easiest way to do it if you are worried about others messing with stuff, just use your file browser with root privelages when you want to make edits to the partition
[07:59] <popey> Badm4n: fetchmail
[07:59] <GTroy> shalos, yes
[07:59] <zcat[1] > dapper who?
[07:59] <YoussefAssad> morning folks
[07:59] <Bilford> lol
[07:59] <popey> Bilford: dapper drake
[07:59] <GTroy> ok, I'm guessing I have dri, but I'm not able to use 3d
[07:59] <Badm4n> ok ty
[07:59] <shalos> i dont really use twin veiw
[07:59] <GTroy> sorry for the misstep shalos
[07:59] <Madpilot> me2win, running Nautilus w/ sudo isn't the best idea... too easy to mess things up
[07:59] <Bilford> Dapper Drake
[07:59] <YoussefAssad> quick question, in ubuntu what is the most common way employed to manage sysv services?
[08:00] <hintswen> can someone help me, i'm trying to install ubuntu. I don't know how to edit partition tables
[08:00] <shalos> yea no 3d acceleration then
[08:00] <GTroy> I'll look for that in the how to
[08:00] <NateBHere> Well wish me luck gonna try the  Live boot again.
[08:00] <xpc> asd
[08:00] <hyperstream> how can i mount a iso so it looks like its comming from /dev/hdd(this is where my cdrom mounts from when i insert a cd into my cdrom) i want to mount a game .iso in order to bypass a cd check. at the moment when i mount it . it looks like this: /home/hyperstream/BF2 DVD.MDF    2.0G  2.0G     0 100% /media/cdrom0   <------ when i mount a normal cd it looks like this: /dev/hdd               50M   50M     0 100% /media/cdrom0
[08:01] <Badm4n> popey : how to few my fetchmail from web browser
[08:01] <shalos> thats  weird.. n ot sure without more info.. usually nvidia glx package just works.
[08:01] <popey> Badm4n: you don't you use it from your pc
[08:01] <xpc> !sex kat
[08:01] <Badm4n> yes
[08:01] <ubotu> xpc: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:01] <Badm4n> then ?
[08:01] <GTroy> ok shalos
[08:02] <xpc> gatvj
[08:02] <zcat[1] > hyperstream: rename the .iso file to hdz and put it in /dev directory, then mount it loopback.. that should fool the ckeck?
[08:02] <hintswen> can someone help me, i'm trying to install ubuntu. I don't know how to edit partition tables
[08:02] <xpc> gatoveej
[08:02] <zcat[1] > then it will appear as /dev/hdz right?
[08:02] <xpc> ASD
[08:02] <xpc> asd
[08:03] <shalos> what are ya tryin to do hintswen?
[08:03] <hintswen> install ubuntu
[08:03] <shalos> well yea.. i take it ya have a windows partition still?
[08:03] <xpc> ubuntu
[08:03] <hintswen> i stuffed up something and was getting a boot failure so i'm just installing it again, i didn't have anything i needed anyway
[08:04] <hintswen> i have a ubuntu partition not a windows partition lol
[08:04] <hintswen2> ok
[08:04] <zcat[1] > tell it to use the whole drive, go with what the installer suggests..
[08:04] <shalos> yea if ya dont have anything on it ya want to keep
[08:05] <hintswen> the installer is giving me the option to manually edit the partitions, that's the only option
[08:05] <zcat[1] > weird..
[08:05] <shalos> well ya can just delete all the parititions and have it automaticly fill the  empty  space??
[08:05] <hintswen> yes but i don't know how to do that
[08:06] <h3h_timo> how can i uninstall limewire?
[08:06] <Flannel> h3h_timo: how did you install it?
[08:06] <samuli> h3h_timo, sudo apt-get remove limewire?
[08:06] <h3h_timo> i tried that
[08:06] <GTroy> how can I tell which linux driver I'm using?
[08:06] <h3h_timo> and i cant remember how i installed it
[08:06] <GTroy> sorry nvidia?
[08:06] <shalos> well if your in manual mod.. it  should list the partitions.. ya can select them and delete them.. or format them and remount them
[08:06] <shalos> glxinfo gtroy? should say it
[08:07] <GTroy> ok cool, thanks shalos
[08:07] <orbin> Flannel, samuli : he probably used the shell script:
[08:07] <cipi604> got anyone working opera on 6.06?
[08:07] <orbin> !limewire
[08:07] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[08:07] <hyperstream> zcat[1] , ill try that
[08:07] <hintswen> well it's not...
[08:07] <Guest_105> hi
[08:07] <zcat[1] > alt-F2 and start a terminal, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=2   ; that will flatten the mbr and partition table.. after that the ubuntu install won't worry about what's already installed.
[08:07] <hintswen> i selected manually edit partitions and i have trhese options...
[08:08] <shalos> gtroy more exact glxinfo | grep NVIDIA
[08:08] <h3h_timo> alright i know how i installed limewire
[08:08] <Guest_105> I can't find the "terminal" :-(
[08:08] <hintswen> configure software RAID, donfigure the logical volume manager, guided partitioning, help on partitioning, undo changes to partitions, finish partiting and write changed to disk
[08:08] <h3h_timo> i followed the guide in the gnutella forums
[08:08] <h3h_timo> and you use alien i guess??
[08:09] <Madpilot> Guest_105, Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[08:09] <GTroy> shalos, no extension "GLX"
[08:09] <shalos> hintswen.. doesnt show  ya empty space  or your old partitions or anything
[08:09] <hintswen> nope
[08:09] <Guest_105> mmm
[08:09] <orbin> h3h_timo: sounds like you installed converted an rpm to a deb file and installed manually then
[08:09] <shalos> hintswen thats odd.. harddrive still alive
[08:09] <hintswen> yeah i guess it is
[08:09] <hintswen> well i hope it is!
[08:10] <orbin> h3h_timo: open up synatpic, then click on status at the bottom left, then open installed (local)
[08:10] <orbin> h3h_timo: should be there
[08:10] <shalos> GTroy it didnt show the driver number and vidia version?
[08:10] <h3h_timo> yep
[08:10] <h3h_timo> thank you
[08:10] <orbin> yw
[08:10] <hyperstream> zcat[1] , nope :(. ii can hear it attempting to boot my cdrom in my pc
[08:11] <GTroy> shalos, nope
[08:11] <shalos> yea thats not  right..
[08:11] <hintswen> ?
[08:12] <pyrotic> Ok, I need help getting a driver that will have hardware accelleration, for my "GeForce MX/MX 400"... I want to play Wolfenstein Enemy Territory.. any ideas?
[08:12] <HIGH-FREQ> does anyone get this in dmesg and know how to fix it... ????   prism2_config() failed    <<<-----i think thats why my pcmcia card isn't being listed cuz its not configing the prism2.5 card
[08:12] <orbin> ubotu: tell pyrotic about nvidia
[08:12] <shalos> whats  your xorg.con look like  gtroy?
[08:12] <GTroy> what's the posting page?
[08:12] <GTroy> shalos
[08:12] <shalos> hintswen im not sure on your problem.. if your harddrives not showing up not really sure what that could be
[08:13] <hintswen> umm i think i'll just put windows on then ubuntu again, long way but might fix
[08:13] <GTroy> !pastebin
[08:13] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:13] <hintswen> migth have killed my hard drive
[08:13] <samuli> what's the difference between hard- and symbolic link?
[08:13] <shalos> hintswen does the hd show up in bios on boot?
[08:14] <hintswen> i have no idea
[08:14] <GTroy> shalos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13975
[08:14] <shalos> k ill take a look
[08:14] <samuli> what I'm trying to accomplish is to make link to /dir where I mounted my other ext3 partition.
[08:14] <siccness> samuli: I did learn that but sadly forgotten
[08:15] <hintswen> omg no... i don't think it does
[08:15] <shalos> gtroy comment out load "dri" in the modules section.. see if that  does it
[08:15] <hintswen> Pri Master: Not installes
[08:15] <hintswen> installed*
[08:15] <shalos> thats not good hintswen
[08:15] <GTroy> ok
[08:15] <byen> guyswhat would be the best way to break a 7gb partition got Ubuntu if I want to keep a seperate /home
[08:16] <zcat[1] > hintswen: sounds like your drive might be jumpered wrong.. probably been booting as solo slave since you got it..
[08:16] <Madpilot> byen, 4Gb for root and 3Gb for /home?
[08:16] <shalos> what about the swap?
[08:17] <hintswen> doesn't say swap
[08:17] <hintswen> it's got my cd drive and disk drive, that's all
[08:17] <byen> Madpilot: would that be sufficient?
[08:17] <byen> for both?
[08:18] <shalos> so bios  only shows cddrive and floppy  drive?
[08:18] <hintswen> yes
[08:18] <hintswen> which means i stuffed my hdd?
[08:18] <Madpilot> byen, Ubuntu's basic install is ~1.8Gb - so at least 3Gb should be root - it's your call, that isn't a lot of space to play with no matter how you cut it
[08:18] <pyrotic> orbin I followed the instructions as told, and it says to do this "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" but when I do, I get "command not found"
[08:19] <zcat[1] > hintswen: very unlikely.
[08:19] <byen> yeah.. may i shud just have one root and sit home in it too as i have it now.. just to play it safe
[08:19] <GTroy> no luck shalos
[08:19] <tokeman> howdee
[08:19] <shalos> hintswen make  sure its settup right.. should be a primary hdd on its own ide cable if thats all you have in the system
[08:19] <orbin> pyrotic: what's the exact error?
[08:19] <hintswen> it is
[08:20] <pyrotic> orbin " bash: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[08:20] <pyrotic>  "
[08:20] <samuli> pyrotic, are you sure you have that installed then?
[08:20] <hintswen> 1 min i switch the ide cable, maybe the cable is stuffed(unlikely)
[08:20] <zcat[1] > hintswen: set the drive to 'CS' and connect it to the last connector on the cable. Make sure the other end is definately in IDE1 not IDE2 ..
[08:20] <byen> My system crashed while upgrading from Breezy to Dapper.. my question wud be .. would updating from flight 7 to final be ok?
[08:20] <orbin> pyrotic: yeah, i have an ati card actually
[08:20] <pyrotic> samuli I followed the instructions, just as it said to do so.
[08:20] <|Sivik|> byen: should be
[08:20] <pyrotic> orbin hm..
[08:21] <|Sivik|> byen: when the final finally comes out
[08:21] <samuli> pyrotic, and kept your eyes for error messages?
[08:21] <zcat[1] > sane for the cdrom but use IDE2 on the motherboard
[08:21] <hintswen> 'CS'
[08:21] <hintswen> ?
[08:21] <zcat[1] > cable select..
[08:21] <shalos> cable select
[08:21] <hintswen> k
[08:21] <shalos> what he said
[08:21] <pyrotic> samuli Yes, it had me use Synaptec, so there was no errors.
[08:21] <zcat[1] > then go into bios and set all four drives to AUTO
[08:21] <samuli> okay.
[08:21] <hintswen> it's on master
[08:21] <pyrotic> Synaptic*
[08:21] <byen> ok.. thanks |Sivik|.. just that my system went crazy after i upgraded toda morning and now im scared
[08:22] <byen> heck.. i'll take the jump
[08:22] <byen> its Ubuntu :P
[08:22] <samuli> pyrotic, well it still seems you don't have that installed, so maybe you could check it out?
[08:22] <shalos> gtroy i dont see really anything wrong with your xorg
[08:22] <antonio_> I am downloading KDE and a crapload (500mb) of other apss using apt from Ubunto 5.10 breezy badger.. is it all going to install itasself etc nicely and offer me to use KDE upon logout ?
[08:22] <samuli> do something like sudo apt-get install what-you-said-.
[08:22] <vbgunz> can qt apps look native on Gnome?
[08:23] <Flannel> antonio_: at the login screen you can select gnome or kde.  under 'session'
[08:23] <pyrotic> samuli hm.. I'm a newb.. so.. yea'..
[08:23] <|Sivik|> byen: i'm having problems with x-chating dieing
[08:23] <samuli> antonio, yeah. (if all goes well :)
[08:23] <antonio_> awsome, cheers
[08:23] <orbin> antonio_: how are you getting kde?  via kubuntu-desktop?
[08:24] <antonio_> i went a little overboard and swtiched universe on not thinking it might no have been the best idea considering my novice knowledge
[08:24] <pyrotic> samuli I have a nVidia GeForce MX/MX 400
[08:24] <samuli> pyrotic, just do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config
[08:24] <nootrope> how can i find out if the proper driver for my USB wifi card is loaded using lsmod? what do i look for?
[08:24] <antonio_> orbin  - no.. using the synaptic
[08:24] <byen> |Sivik|: nothing compared to my upgrade... My gnome boots without wondow borders.. my XFCE takes abt 15 minutes to boot and my Broadcom graphics card is not even recognized...
[08:24] <samuli> pyrotic, and mind that if it starts installing that, you probably don't have the other packages either.
[08:24] <byen> my volume control is borked too
[08:24] <orbin> antonio_: i meant by the kubuntu-desktop package
[08:24] <|Sivik|> byen: thats crazy
[08:24] <Madpilot> antonio_, Universe is pretty safe - it's all supposed to work in Ubuntu
[08:24] <|Sivik|> byen: what kind of video card?
[08:24] <pyrotic> samuli couldn't find package.
[08:25] <shalos> byen was your breezy customized a lot.. jsut curious
[08:25] <james050286> hey what can i use to view .wmv?
[08:25] <GTroy> shalos, brb
[08:25] <GTroy> yeah, it works, but without 3d rendering
[08:25] <samuli> pyrotic, so you don't have right repositories enabled in the sources.list then.
[08:25] <pyrotic> samuli - Hmm...?
[08:25] <byen> shalos: nope.. just themes
[08:25] <samuli> !tell pyrotic about easyubuntu
[08:25] <xanavim> james050286: vlc, xine
[08:25] <byen> that is what is making me crazy.. there was nothing that i changed
[08:25] <tokeman> I'm still having problems with sound, I installed all the ALSA drivers and still can't get any  sound cards up I have used.
[08:25] <siccness> What's with xmms playing mp3s with the volume louder than ~75%?
[08:26] <antonio_> orbin  - i dont think thats what downloafding, im using ordinary ubuntu at the moment if thats what you mean.. im just downloading normal kde.. noit kubuntu
[08:26] <cafuego> byen: Your broadcom is not a gfx card.
[08:26] <samuli> pyrotic, that's a good 'n easy app to do muchos things to get you started :)
[08:26] <g1gaman> can anybody help me, please. the problem: i created a new panel in gnome and then i changed it's size. then this panel and other one started to blink and finally both dissapeared. now i am able only  to create program launchers on desktop or use terminal. how to get my panels back?
[08:26] <pyrotic> samuli Ok, Thanks, but the link provided in there, did not work.
[08:26] <orbin> antonio_: i understand...the recommended way to get kde if you're using default ubuntu/gnome is to grab the kubuntu-desktop package
[08:26] <pyrotic> !easyubuntu
[08:26] <blank_> how do i list the processes, everything's closed but whenever I run 'sudo apt-get' it says 'cant get excluseive lock'
[08:26] <cafuego> byen: ANyway, it's nor working coz it has a native driver that requires firmware. Youc an either do that or disable it and keep using  ndiswrapper. The wiki page ubotu told you about explains it all.
[08:26] <byen> cafuego: I also tried compling it with ndiswrapper and it says that the driver is alreasy installed
[08:26] <hintswen> i can't get the plastic thing from the hdd out
[08:26] <samuli> pyrotic, It might be down for now, but try again later.
[08:26] <hintswen> to change it to cs
[08:26] <|Sivik|> byen: what kind of video card?
[08:27] <blank_> how can i list processes that are running, i keep forgetting
[08:27] <byen> ATi Radeon 7500
[08:27] <pyrotic> samuli I stand corrected, the 2nd link worked fine.
[08:27] <shalos> hintswen got tweezers?
[08:27] <blank_> ps aux or something?
[08:27] <antonio_> orbin : i should have come here first then huh.. i have just wasted a few hundred megs haha.. so where might i aquire this packege?
[08:27] <|Sivik|> byen: i can help you with the broadcom wireless card
[08:27] <Madpilot> blank_, are you running Synaptic?
[08:27] <pyrotic> samuli how do you install a tar file?
[08:27] <pyrotic> samuli tar.gz
[08:27] <hintswen> tries that, they can't get it
[08:27] <blank_> Madpilot, of course not, everything's closed
[08:27] <hintswen> tried*
[08:27] <blank_> i was, but 'closed' it, hence why i'd ilke to know if it's running or something
[08:27] <orbin> antonio_: the metapackage itself is in main...i think it grabs packages from universe though
[08:27] <hintswen> end is 2 thick still :(
[08:27] <orbin> antonio_: but yeah, getting it via kubuntu-desktop is only ~120Mb :)
[08:28] <shalos> really? should be that hard heh
[08:28] <hintswen> it is :(
[08:28] <byen> |Sivik|: My system is so unstable I think its better i reinstall.. thanks ! lemme try a fresh install
[08:28] <HunterZ> hello
[08:28] <|Sivik|> byen: k
[08:28] <shalos> sometimes ya can get the jumpers with a fingernail they have a little edge on them usually
[08:28] <antonio_> damn it lol.. see i went insane and grabbed just about everything under the sun for kde media/office/app/game/dev wise
[08:28] <blank_> I ran 'ps aux | grep "pid"' and nothing having to do with apt-get is running
[08:28] <blank_> I wonder what's wrong
[08:28] <antonio_> inluding all the wastefull gadgets
[08:28] <hintswen> nope :(
[08:28] <samuli> pyrotic, download it, open in archive manager, unpack it somewhere, then go to that directory in terminal and do sudo python easyubuntu.py
[08:28] <g1gaman> may i ask once again?
[08:28] <orbin> antonio_: yeah, poor little modem :)
[08:29] <|Sivik|> don't feel bad, everything here is dieing
[08:29] <|Sivik|> especially oo
[08:29] <blank_> Madpilot, this is the error i get
[08:29] <blank_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:29] <blank_> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:29] <hintswen> i can't get it!!
[08:29] <siccness> Anyone else experience distorion in XMMS with volume control above around 75%?
[08:29] <orbin> siccness: lower pcm in colume control
[08:30] <g1gaman> can anybody help me, please. the problem: i created a new panel in gnome and then i changed it's size. then this panel and other one started to blink and finally both dissapeared. now i am able only  to create program launchers on desktop or use terminal. how to get my panels back?
[08:30] <shalos> its just a peice of plastic around two metal pins.. if that helps. do what ya gotta do lol
[08:30] <siccness> Ah, thanks, orbin.
[08:30] <orbin> s/colume/volume
[08:30] <siccness> Much appreciated.
[08:30] <siccness> heh :)
[08:30] <hintswen> lol
[08:30] <blank_> how do i end a process
[08:30] <slackern> everytime you play with your panels a kitten dies
[08:30] <shalos> lol
[08:30] <blank_> pkill -9 <pid>
[08:30] <blank_> ?
[08:30] <antonio_> gah.. the download just finished but missed a heap of stuff and i clicked to install anyway
[08:30] <g1gaman> slackern, what should i do?
[08:30] <antonio_> this may potentially break the system
[08:31] <slackern> try pressing alt+f2
[08:31] <slackern> do you get a run-command window then?
[08:31] <samuli> antonio_ missed from the kubuntu-desktop download?
[08:31] <siccness> Hang on, that doesn't work though orbin. Because when I lower PCM, it lowers XMMS at the same time?
[08:31] <zcat[1] > hmm .. I think I need to get the source of kmix, so I can have a volume slider that goes to 11!!!
[08:31] <samuli> it shouldn't break gnome.. kde. Probably :)
[08:31] <shalos> :-)
[08:31] <Madpilot> hyperstream, kill the auto-away spam, please
[08:32] <g1gaman> slackern, no
[08:32] <blank_> how do i force a kill with pkill
[08:32] <pyrotic> samuli - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13976 -
[08:32] <samuli> antonio_ just try and install rest of the stuff again :)
[08:32] <NoUse> zcat[1]  Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
[08:32] <antonio_> no not from the kubuntu from the synaptic downl;oad, the 500 mb one
[08:32] <orbin> siccness: works ok for me? :-/
[08:32] <zcat[1] > nonono.. I want a slider that goes to 11..
[08:32] <slackern> g1gaman, hmm you could just kill X and get back to gdm with control+alt+backspace too, but that would kill whatever applications you have running.
[08:32] <orbin> blank_: pkill -9 iirc
[08:32] <blank_> yay i fixed everything on my own
[08:32] <NoUse> zcat[1]  yeah I was quoting spinal tap :-)
[08:33] <siccness> orbin: Hmm, this is weird. Does xmms run through PCM standard?
[08:33] <blank_> orbin, it was actually sudo kill -9 <pid> :D
[08:33] <g1gaman> slackern, its ctrl+alt+f2
[08:33] <orbin> blank_: heh, ok then
[08:33] <samuli> pyrotic, I'm not sure if this is going to help, but try going into the actual easyubuntu directory and sudo python again.
[08:33] <orbin> siccness: not sure
[08:33] <slackern> g1gaman, to get a terminal, but not killing X
[08:33] <siccness> Hmm, interesting.
[08:33] <antonio_> jesus.. just got a pop-up in synaptic after the install finished .. the following problems were found on your system (Insert absaloute plethora of failures here)  lol
[08:34] <orbin> siccness: search the forum
[08:34] <pyrotic> samuli I can open the easyubuntu.py file.. but what do I do with it
[08:34] <samuli> pyrotic, I just fired easyubuntu myself and it's working fine for me.
[08:34] <siccness> Yeah, tried.
[08:34] <siccness> Doesn't matter, I'll just leave it ona round 75%
[08:34] <siccness> and crank the fuck outta Master ;)
[08:34] <hintswen> >:( this is so anoying
[08:34] <slackern> g1gaman, i guess you could login in a terminal with ctrl+alt+f2 and try 'gnome-panel &'
[08:34] <siccness> Excuse my language though, heh.
[08:34] <samuli> pyrotic, type cd ~/Desktop/easyubuntu && sudo python easyubuntu.py
[08:34] <syke> hi!
[08:34] <syke> how do I find out what changes there are between flight 7 and the current daily iso?
[08:34] <samuli> pyrotic, probably isn't going to help, but it's worth to try.
[08:34] <orbin> siccness: that's what i do
[08:35] <g1gaman> slackern, and then?
[08:35] <pyrotic> samuli ok that last one worked...
[08:35] <siccness> Yeah, lower pcm and crank master?
[08:35] <samuli> pyrotic, cool.
[08:35] <slackern> try ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X and see if the gnome-panel is running
[08:35] <orbin> siccness: yeah, not the swearing thing lol
[08:35] <siccness> Heheh :P
[08:35] <zcat[1] > i set my levels so the output is about line level, then I crank it at the amp.
[08:36] <siccness> zcat, ahh ok.
[08:36] <pyrotic> samuli Thanks :D
[08:36] <zcat[1] > that seems to get the best sound.
[08:36] <siccness> My speakers aren't anything special anyway, so eh.
[08:36] <zizie> where i can edit how the phpmyadmin will user username and pass ?
[08:37] <zizie> cause when i apt-get install phpmyadmin
[08:37] <zizie> i cant enter my phpadmin
[08:37] <hintswen> i got it!
[08:38] <NoUse> zizie try root and no password
[08:38] <NoUse> zizie phpmyadmin just uses MySQL's internal authentication
[08:38] <zcat[1] > hintswen: is your cdrom on the same cable, or on it's own one/
[08:38] <slackern> zizie,  this wiki will maybe be of help setting a password for your user in mysql so you can login in phpmyadmin. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:38] <hintswen> cd is on it's own
[08:39] <zcat[1] > good!
[08:39] <hintswen> cd on own, disk on own and hdd on own
[08:39] <zcat[1] > 80-conductor cable?
[08:40] <hintswen> ?] 
[08:40] <siccness> I hope BB will be able to upgrade to DD when it comes to final.
[08:40] <h3h_timo> !xfce
[08:40] <ubotu> xfce is, like, totally, a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[08:41] <Madpilot> siccness, dist-upgrading is easy (from Breezy to Dapper, say)
[08:41] <zcat[1] > hmmm.. 80-way cable is thinner and flatter.. 40-way is like your floppy drive cable..
[08:41] <siccness> Madpilot: Yeah, I figured it'll be easy but people have been saying their upgrades haven't been that successful.
[08:41] <siccness> So I'm just hoping for the best when the day comes.
[08:41] <hintswen> i'm lost
[08:41] <xpc> asd
[08:42] <Madpilot> siccness, yeah. I had some trouble going from Hoary->Breezy, but mostly that was self-inflicted thru ignorance :P
[08:42] <siccness> Heh, that's where my issues will as well. My knowledge on Linux is extremely limited.
[08:42] <siccness> But I'm loving Ubuntu so much.
[08:42] <shalos> theres two types of cables.. 40 and 80 pins.. but im confused hintswen.. didnt the harddrive work before?
[08:42] <YoussefAssad> in the default firefox which comes with 5.10, is there a problem with the about:config page? Or do I have a freak installation?
[08:42] <samuli> I really would like nautilus not to show those symbolic link thingies in icons.
[08:43] <samuli> any ideas how to do that?
[08:43] <hintswen> it worked... but i tried to add a 30GB hdd and it all stuffed up
[08:43] <siccness> samuli: I try to avoid nautilus as much as possible. Seems to be buggy.
[08:44] <samuli> siccness, :)
[08:45] <zizie> where i can edit how the phpmyadmin will user username and pass ? cause when i apt-get install phpmyadmin i cant enter my phpadmin
[08:45] <slackern> zizie,  this wiki will maybe be of help setting a password for your user in mysql so you can login in phpmyadmin. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:46] <hintswen> hdd still not recognised by bios
[08:46] <shalos> can ya  feel it spin up any?
[08:47] <NoUse> zizie did you try what I sent you?
[08:47] <ubuntu_> set jumper correct?
[08:47] <siccness> IDE cable the right way?
[08:47] <hintswen> yes
[08:47] <hintswen> yes-i have idiot proof ide cable
[08:47] <zizie> which one ?
[08:48] <NoUse> zizie try root with no password, phpmyadmin just uses MySQLs internal authenication
 zizie try root with no password, phpmyadmin just uses MySQLs internal authenication <-- already try... result == same... failed
[08:48] <hintswen> :'(
[08:48] <siccness> hintswen: How does that work, I'm assuming it's jsut those plastic clips on them to ensure they only go in one way>
[08:48] <hintswen> yeah that's the 1
[08:48] <zizie> b4 using apache2 i use lampp/xampp that use username and password
[08:48] <hintswen> not a clip, but a bump
[08:48] <siccness> Is there 3 connectors?
[08:48] <shalos> yea
[08:49] <hintswen> yes, there's 3
[08:49] <siccness> Make sure the long part of the ide cable is connected to the motherboard
[08:49] <vbgunz> can qt apps appear native on Gnome? right now qt apps look ugly as hell... Is there anything that can make a qt app take on the Gnome look?
[08:49] <hintswen> it is
[08:49] <siccness> Hmm, buggered if I know then :P
[08:49] <siccness> Sorry, heh :|
[08:49] <shalos> yea definatly sounds right to me
[08:49] <Madpilot> vbgunz, there is a package that can help a bit... qtconfig, I think it's called
[08:50] <hintswen> :(
[08:50] <siccness> hintswen: Could be a faulty drive, but I doubt it.
[08:50] <siccness> You got a spare drive around?
[08:50] <vbgunz> Madpilot: ok, I will look into it!
[08:50] <hintswen> well the drive worked b4, so i just stuffed it up :(
[08:50] <siccness> or even another IDE device?
[08:50] <shalos> if its not showing up in  bios that sounds bad to me
[08:50] <Madpilot> vbgunz, "qt3-qtconfig" is the package - start it w/ "qtconfig"
[08:50] <siccness> Try hooking up a CD-ROM to it.
[08:50] <siccness> and see if gets detected
[08:50] <hintswen> umm... i have the 30GB drive but it has windows on it i think, an i have a cd drive
[08:51] <vbgunz> Madpilot: ok, I will let you know how it works!
[08:51] <Madpilot> vbgunz, it's not perfect, but it helps make the qt stuff look a bit less alien ;)
[08:51] <shalos> wait ya have two harddrives on that ide cable?
[08:51] <hintswen> no, just the 120
[08:51] <vbgunz> Madpilot: very cool, better than it is now I hope :)
[08:51] <hintswen> i tried to put the 30 and it stuffed up, so i took it out
[08:51] <siccness> hintswen: Hook the CD-Drive up to the connector that you're trying to get the HDD to work on
[08:52] <siccness> If that works, then it's more than likely a fault with the HDD.
[08:52] <siccness> If not, it could be IDE cable, or IDE connector on motherboard.
[08:52] <shalos> yea
[08:52] <siccness> You really hope it's either HDD or IDE Cable, because if it's the Motherboard connector then ouch.
[08:53] <shalos> yea ya can look.. make sure there arnt any bent pins on the motherboard or the hdd
[08:53] <hintswen> ?
[08:53] <NateBHere> Well, I got the Live boot to work, but now it will not connect to the internet.  Any suggestions?
[08:53] <samuli> natebhere, have you configured it properly?
[08:53] <siccness> That's true, bent pins will cause them to not show up, although it shouldn't even post.
[08:53] <shalos> the tons of  pins ya put the connector into.. make sure none of them are bent
[08:54] <NateBHere> I dunno first time trying to use Ubuntu.
[08:54] <shalos> heh.. saying what a computer should do and what it actually does..
[08:55] <hintswen> what if i switch the ide cables on my hdd and cd drive?
[08:55] <NateBHere> I am using a Compaq Pressario and my inter net connction is off of a local Wi/Fi hot spot.
[08:56] <hintswen> leave the bit connected to motherboard, just switch where it's connected to the device
[08:56] <vbgunz> Madpilot: it still looks ugly :(
[08:56] <kakeman> i have problem with sounds... and cd drives and card reader... they all are gone
[08:56] <Madpilot> vbgunz, that's because qt is ugly :|
[08:56] <vbgunz> :/
[08:57] <shalos> well to test out the cable on the hdd.. yea but shouldnt leave it that way
[08:57] <vbgunz> looks good on KDE but Gnome... yak...
[08:57] <NateBHere> I know nothing of the ISP that it is from.  Jus tthat Windows does all the work for me.  Can you tell me what information I need to gather from the connection to import to Ubuntu?
[08:57] <Madpilot> vbgunz, but if you fiddle with qtconfig a bit, you can at least get qt stuff looking inconspicious in Gnome...
[08:57] <vbgunz> am going to see what I can do... at least you gave me a head start :)
[08:58] <shalos> natebhere have ya set  your access point and security key?
[08:58] <kakeman> i can hear very very little sound from speakers... master 100% and PCM81%
[08:59] <NateBHere> I will have to say no be cause I have no idea what you are talking about.  remember I am new to linux.
[09:00] <shalos> well its windows too.. your wireless network has  a name..and should have a security password using wep  or wpa
[09:00] <shalos> your gunna need that  information
[09:00] <hintswen> ok... here's hat i did...
[09:00] <NateBHere> Well, like I said Windows did alll the work for me,  It just found the signal and connected to it
[09:01] <NateBHere> No password
[09:01] <hintswen> unpluged the ide cable fromt he cd drive, unpluged the IDE cable from hdd and pluged that into a different cd drivr
[09:01] <shalos> it should be in system/administration networking
[09:01] <hintswen> BIOS said cd drive is connected
[09:01] <kakeman> all started when i played ET and my computer screen sudently go black..
[09:01] <siccness> so cd drive worked, but hdd didnt?
[09:01] <shalos> ouch
[09:01] <hintswen> yes
[09:02] <siccness> ok
[09:02] <siccness> thats better than the mobo
[09:02] <shalos> true
[09:02] <kakeman> i think that hdd is cd drive? :-/
[09:02] <siccness> uhm, what mobo/bios is it?
[09:02] <NateBHere> Data encryption is disabled.  So it is not WEP
[09:02] <shalos> make sure the hdd has no bent pins..
[09:02] <hintswen> AMIBIOS
[09:03] <siccness> heh, was hoping for bios revision but ok
[09:03] <NateBHere> network authentication is open
[09:03] <NateBHere> not WPA
[09:03] <hintswen> Version 1.21.12
[09:03] <shalos> natebhere are you  using the network settings manager.. ya can click your wireless card and select your essid or wireless network name
[09:03] <high-freq2> ok this is ridiculous....anyone ever see a   prism2_config() fail   on bootup?  it says in dmesg for this XI-325 wireless b pcmcia card....anyone know whattup?
[09:03] <g1gaman> slackern, can you repeat, please, what i should do at run command screen?
[09:04] <kakeman> how i can check that linux finds my cd-drive...
[09:04] <g1gaman> slackern, i am the guy who lost panels in gnome
[09:04] <zizie> #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured) <-- what this mean ?
[09:04] <spikeb> heh
[09:04] <siccness> what motherboard is it hintswen?
[09:04] <hintswen> i have no idea
[09:05] <siccness> ok what cpu is it?
[09:05] <shalos> is the computer like a compaq  or somethin hints?
[09:05] <hintswen> i dunno lmao
[09:05] <kakeman> i wound my cd drives!!!
[09:05] <siccness> lol ok, do you know what speed the cpu is?
[09:05] <siccness> eg: 1600mhz
[09:05] <hintswen> umm... 2.4ghz i think
[09:06] <kakeman> me?
[09:06] <siccness> ok, that rules out bios related (dont ask, train of thought is out of wack)
[09:06] <shalos> might say when  you boot up on the bios messages sometimes
[09:06] <hintswen> it's 2.4
[09:06] <spikeb> er, that's 1.42
[09:07] <siccness> heh, 1.42ghz, what's that? AMD Athlon t'bird?
[09:07] <hintswen> 1 sec i'll find it in my logs
[09:07] <spikeb> siccness: G4
[09:07] <siccness> i meant spikeb :P
[09:07] <siccness> Ohh ok
[09:07] <spikeb> mac mini :)
[09:07] <Bilford> does Ubuntu run faster than Windows
[09:07] <kakeman> +2100 1.82Ghz
[09:07] <kakeman> Bilford, if u tune it
[09:07] <siccness> opt165 1.8 :P
[09:08] <Bilford> kakeman- I dont know how to do things like that
[09:08] <NateBHere> Shalos - I don't understand what you are talking about.  I am sorry I am so ignorant.  Thanks, for you patcients, in trying to help me.
[09:08] <spikeb> it does, on my machine
[09:08] <siccness> hintswen: Ok, shalos recommended checking HDD pins, not a bad idea.
[09:08] <spikeb> of course, windows doesn' teven run on this machine
[09:08] <shalos> its okay nate.. your panel at the top.. system/administration... networking i think it is.. should show all your network devices
[09:09] <hintswen> CPU: Intel Pentium 4 , 2.39 GHz, 512KB
[09:09] <zizie> root@safana:/usr# mysql -u root
[09:09] <zizie> ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[09:09] <siccness> Nice :)
[09:09] <hintswen> that's what it is
[09:09] <zizie> failed
[09:09] <zizie> how to fix it ?
[09:09] <NateBHere> How do I tell Ubuntu to use the Wi/Fi signal that is in my area so that I can use the internet while using Ubuntu
[09:09] <siccness> If I recall correctly, being the 800 chip, nice OCing ;P
[09:09] <hintswen> ok what did u say to do?
[09:09] <siccness> hintswen: Check the HDD pins
[09:09] <NateBHere> Yes
 OS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP2 (Build #2600) CPU: Intel Pentium 4 , 2.39 GHz, 512KB Video: Radeon 9000 Series (1024x768x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: C-Media Wave Device Memory: Used: 407/512MB Uptime: 6d 14h 6m 31s HD: Free: 13.35 GB/111.76 GB Connection: ADMtek AN983 10/100 PCI Adapter @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 935.51MB Sent: 156.85MB)
[09:09] <shalos> check you harddrive pines.. they should all be really straight
[09:09] <NateBHere> it does
[09:09] <hintswen> that's what it WAS
[09:10] <hintswen> ok brb
[09:10] <NateBHere> I am in the device manager is that what you are talking about
[09:10] <hintswen> the ping on motherboard or hdd?
[09:10] <siccness> hdd
[09:10] <kakeman> Bilford, installing openbox or fluxbox or xubuntu-desktop or enlightenment or... u can find howtos from google
[09:10] <hintswen> pins*
[09:10] <hintswen> k
[09:10] <shalos> no should be networking natebhere..
[09:10] <siccness> motherboards should be fine because you got the CD to work off it.
[09:10] <NateBHere> hold on sorry
[09:10] <Bilford> kakeman- those are speed tweakers?
[09:11] <Madpilot> Bilford, they're lighter desktops than Gnome or KDE
[09:11] <kakeman> those are light desktops
[09:11] <Bilford> anyone, Im currently in the process of upgrading to Dapper Drake
[09:11] <Bilford> oh
[09:12] <shalos> yea xubuntu really brings old computers back to life lemme tell ya
[09:12] <NateBHere> I pulled up the network connection Properties window for my Wi/Fi signal
[09:12] <NateBHere> Is that wat you are talking about
[09:12] <shalos> yea
[09:12] <shalos> should be able to s elect your network in there
[09:12] <yorkdan> how do i save a file that is protected?
[09:12] <YoussefAssad> from ubuntu to ubuntu+1, this can be apt-gotten cleanly, yes?
[09:12] <yorkdan> ITS WONT LET ME SAVE
[09:12] <Madpilot> YoussefAssad, with dist-upgrade, yes
[09:13] <YoussefAssad> Madpilot: lovely, thanks
[09:13] <Bilford> yorkdan, run it with Sudo
[09:13] <NateBHere> yep selleced the network, and opened up the properties menue for it.
[09:13] <shalos> yorkdan.. run gedit as  sudo
[09:13] <yorkdan> I did
[09:13] <yorkdan> ok
[09:13] <Madpilot> yorkdan, what are you trying to edit?
[09:13] <yorkdan> thanks
[09:13] <yorkdan> editting a webmin file
[09:13] <shalos> yea nate.. dont have my laptop up or id check for ya.. but where it says essid.. click on it and select your network.. or type in your network name
[09:14] <hintswen> the pins are straight
[09:14] <NateBHere> Network name (ssid) ?
[09:14] <shalos> umm  yea perhaps
[09:14] <siccness> hintswen: Sounds like a dead HDD.
[09:14] <shalos> hints does  the harddrive spin up at all on boot?
[09:14] <NateBHere> it is greyed out and has a name in it
[09:15] <hintswen> dam :(
[09:15] <hintswen> that means i stuffed it up
[09:15] <shalos> oh.. is the connection enabled natebhere?
[09:15] <hintswen> i have no idea :(
[09:15] <NateBHere> Yeah t is what I am using right now
[09:15] <smick> anyone here use rosegarden?
[09:15] <siccness> hintswen: Ok, with the hdd connected/powered.
[09:15] <siccness> listen closely, and tell us if yuo hear it spinning
[09:15] <shalos> put a finger on it ya shoudl be able to feel it
[09:15] <hintswen> :( that means i gotta plug it all back in again lol
[09:15] <hintswen> brb
[09:15] <shalos> nate are you using breezy badger?
[09:16] <siccness> hintswen: Heh, yeah it's a lot of work mate, but so be it :)
[09:16] <hintswen> 5.1
[09:16] <yorkdan> sudeo edit
[09:16] <NateBHere> since I've never heard that I will have tosay no.  I am using Windows XP and my net work connection is a Wi/Fi signal, I am chating with you trougth Trillian
[09:17] <shalos> nate your running breezy version of ubuntu?
[09:17] <NateBHere> um
[09:17] <g1gaman> is there a way to restore ubuntu system or i should do a total reinstall of it?
[09:17] <NateBHere> How do I find that out?
[09:18] <linux_galore> NateBHere: look at the cd under windows
[09:18] <shalos> well you downloaded the cd from the official site right?? i think ya have a broadcom card if you have a compaq 5000 right? might need to use ndiswrapper in breezy
[09:18] <warpforge> I need help compiling. Here's my g++ output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13979
[09:19] <NateBHere> so far it say v5.10
[09:19] <NateBHere> Mentions GNOME
[09:19] <Cisien> When installing ubuntu-ppc on a mac G3 i get an error saying something like unable to install yaboot, how do i install yaboot (I'm a mac n00b)
[09:19] <shalos> yea  thats breezy..
[09:19] <NateBHere> okay
[09:19] <shalos> what ya said your computer was a compaq 5000 right?
[09:19] <g1gaman> tell me, please, if there is a way to restore ubuntu system or i should do a total reinstall of it?
[09:20] <NateBHere> yep
[09:20] <yorkdan> what command do i type to edit miniserv.conf with super user rights so i can edit it and change it???
[09:20] <hintswen> yeah, i can feel it
[09:20] <linux_galore> warpforge: that s warning not the actual arror
[09:20] <linux_galore> error*
[09:20] <Flannel> yorkdan: gksudo gedit /path/to/miniserv.conf
[09:20] <yorkdan> thanks
[09:20] <siccness> So it's powering up..hmm
[09:20] <shalos> you probably have a broadcom card. in breezy i think ya have to use ndiswrapper.. though in dapper that isnt released yet im told has support for it now
[09:21] <hintswen> Sec slave drive -ATAPI incompatible
[09:21] <shalos> slave drive hints?
[09:21] <NateBHere> So in laymens terms remember I've never used Linux, what does that mean
[09:21] <hintswen> nope
[09:21] <Centaur5> If I installed the newest nvidia drivers and the card works fine is there something more I need to do so lspci doesn't say it's an unknown card?
[09:22] <hintswen> got no slave drive
[09:22] <hintswen> well i shouldn't
[09:22] <siccness> I'm confused, hintswen.
[09:22] <hintswen> i shouldn't have a slave drive
[09:22] <shalos> yea.. ndiswrapper uses the windows drivers in linux to get the wireless card working.. kind of hard to use if your new like that.. you could try to use the not yet released version  of ubuntu
[09:22] <shalos> thats to nate
[09:22] <dutchee> hello all
[09:23] <g1gaman> can anybody tell me, please, if there is a way to restore ubuntu system or i should do a total reinstall of it?
[09:23] <siccness> Ok, your motherboard has two IDE connectors (Prim/Secondary)
[09:23] <siccness> I'm assuming that thie HDD that doesn't work is a storage drive?
[09:23] <hintswen> did i plus in hdd and cd drive to wrong 1's?
[09:23] <linux_galore> g1gaman: no there is no easy way, not if your not familiar, quicker just to do a new install
[09:23] <NateBHere> Okay how do I get the Not Yet Released version of Ubuntu?
[09:23] <siccness> Nah, it doesn't really make much difference in where you put them.
[09:23] <hintswen> k
[09:23] <siccness> *Speed is an issue, but that's it.
[09:24] <shalos> maybe.. but they both should be masters on the on 2 different cables
[09:24] <shalos> nate hold on
[09:24] <g1gaman> linux_galore, thank you :(
[09:24] <Bilford> who's using Dapper Drake
[09:24] <NateBHere> Okay
[09:24] <dutchee> how do I see what version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[09:24] <siccness> hintswen: Ok, with the working HDD..
[09:24] <hintswen> ?
[09:24] <samuli> Bilford, me.
[09:24] <Bilford> samuli- Im installing it now
[09:24] <samuli> good good :)
[09:24] <samuli> It's great.
[09:24] <siccness> hintswen: The HDD that works, take the IDE cable out of that and put that in the supposedly faulty HDD, tell me what happens
[09:24] <Bilford> spikeb
[09:24] <liquidindian> Hello.  I have a problem when my machine shuts down.  It gets to the end of the shutdown sequence, but doesn't get any further.
[09:25] <linux_galore> g1gaman: next time create a /home partition that way you dont lose all your personal user settings on a new install
[09:25] <yorkdan> It says could not be saved?
[09:25] <vineeth> dutchee:see /etc/issue
[09:25] <spikeb> i have no problems at all with dapper.
[09:25] <liquidindian> ie, it doesn't switch off.
[09:25] <Bilford> ok
[09:25] <hintswen> siccness i don't know which hdd works
[09:25] <NateBHere> LOL funny mine does that in windows liquidindian
[09:25] <Cisien> does anyone know how to install ubuntu on a mac G3?
[09:25] <Bilford> oh, I got the blue DOS screen
[09:25] <samuli> linux_galore, too bad dapper's install doesn't let one to choose /home partition.
[09:25] <Bilford> almost done
[09:25] <hintswen> the 120 WORKED but now it seems ike it's not working
[09:25] <siccness> None of them come up on POST?
[09:25] <yorkdan> I use sudo commands when edditing conf file and save and says "could not save the file|
[09:25] <g1gaman> linux_galore, actually i don't need my user settings to be saved
[09:25] <spikeb> i installed it on my mac mini Cisien, and it went fine
[09:25] <Flannel> Cisien: just like normal.  Get the mac iso, and burn it, etc.
[09:26] <linux_galore> samuli: actually it does
[09:26] <Cisien> spikeb, i'm having problems installing Yaboot
[09:26] <Bilford> Im not keeping any of my changed configs
[09:26] <spikeb> hmm
[09:26] <samuli> linux_galore, not the dapper graphical installer anyways.
[09:26] <spikeb> Cisien: i've never had a problem with it, so i can't help
[09:26] <Bilford> Im installing all packagers' versions
[09:26] <linux_galore> samuli: yep
[09:26] <Cisien> it fails to install durring the install, then i cannot figure out how to boot to the install after the install reboots
[09:26] <shalos> nate https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight7 ya can try
[09:27] <samuli> linuz_galero, well you tell me how, because I didn't have that luxury.
[09:27] <hintswen> :(
[09:27] <spikeb> that is odd, you might want to search the forums
[09:27] <linux_galore> samuli: if you lazy like me get a  Mandriva Live CD and use diskdrake to setup your partitions
[09:27] <shalos> hints i find it hard to beleive that it would just die  like that.. unless ya did somethin horrible to it
[09:27] <hintswen> nope
[09:27] <dutchee> I'm using an earlier version of ubuntu, should I upgrade to dapper?
[09:27] <Cisien> yeah. Do you know how to boot custom kernels from the yaboot prompt?
[09:27] <siccness> hintswen: This has gotten to the point where I really can't do much unless I was there.
[09:28] <hintswen> dam :(
[09:28] <hintswen> come here lol
[09:28] <siccness> Sorry, you can try asking others, if they can't help, take it to your local computer repair shop.
[09:28] <linux_galore> samuli: then install ubuntu
[09:28] <poningru> samuli: it does allow you to choose
[09:28] <samuli> linux_galore, my partitions are fine now. I'm just saying dapper's installer didn't have that option for me.
[09:28] <siccness> Heh, I would if you lived by :)
[09:28] <hintswen> ok
[09:28] <shalos> lol only thing i could suggest is maybe try it in another computer if ya  have one
[09:28] <hintswen> where u live?
[09:28] <shalos> the hdd that doesnt work
[09:28] <g1gaman> linux_galore, the problem seemed so ridiculous small. i resized the panel in gnome. it started to blink, and i've lost it
[09:28] <linux_galore> samuli: its there in the advanced setup
[09:28] <siccness> Heh, you live in Sunshine :P
[09:28] <Bilford> spikeb, are you the same spikeb in the political
[09:28] <samuli> linux_galore, that's what I used.
[09:28] <hintswen> no i don't
[09:28] <spikeb> Bilford: yeah
[09:28] <linux_galore> g1gaman: aah
[09:29] <hintswen> where u live?
[09:29] <siccness> Hmm, where hintswen?
[09:29] <hintswen> essendon lol
[09:29] <siccness> Heh
[09:29] <samuli> but maybe it's there.. I dunno. For me there was only root and swap to choose from.
[09:29] <siccness> <--Knox
[09:29] <shalos> whats that
[09:29] <hintswen> close enough!
[09:29] <siccness> I ain't travelling to Essendon to fix a computer :P
[09:29] <linux_galore> g1gaman: I use kde not gnome so it has no meaning to me
[09:29] <hintswen> come help me :D
[09:29] <shalos> wheres essendon
[09:29] <hintswen> :( oh well thanks for all your help
[09:29] <siccness> In Melbourne, Victoria.
[09:29] <Bilford> hm
[09:29] <siccness> (Australia) :P
[09:29] <hintswen> umm it's near sunshine?
[09:29] <NateBHere> Thanks Shalos, for your help.  It's DLing so I guese I'll have to retry in the morning
[09:29] <shalos> ooooh
[09:29] <Bilford> I think the upgrade is complete
[09:29] <hintswen> money ponds area
[09:29] <dutchee> anyone there?
[09:29] <Bilford> nothigns happening
[09:30] <shalos> yea nate.. it should just workim hoping
[09:30] <linux_galore> g1gaman: should be able to change it back under the gnome-control-centre
[09:30] <shalos> yea thats a lil ways
[09:30] <Bilford> how do I know if Im running Dapper Drake now?
[09:30] <siccness> ^heh
[09:30] <Bilford> I didnt reboot or anything
[09:30] <g1gaman> linux_galore, hoe to get in to gnome control centre?
[09:30] <siccness> check version
[09:30] <shalos> pretty sure youll need to reboot bilford
[09:30] <Bilford> ok
[09:30] <samuli> bilford, well you need to reboot.
[09:30] <Bilford> it didnt tell me to reboot
[09:30] <spikeb> yeah reboot
[09:30] <linux_galore> g1gaman: run gnome-control-centre  from the command line
[09:30] <siccness> reboot ;P
[09:30] <dutchee> is it worth it to upgrade to dapper?
[09:31] <Bilford> ok
[09:31] <siccness> What kenerl version are we up to? .16?
[09:31] <hintswen> :'(
[09:31] <samuli> dutchee, to me it was anyways.
[09:31] <shalos> dapper or b reezy sicc?
[09:31] <hintswen> i've been working on this comp all day, now it's stuffed lmao
[09:31] <siccness> in terms of linux, shalos.
[09:31] <shalos> oh
[09:31] <shalos> i dunno
[09:31] <dutchee> can you upgrade to dapper if you are using ubuntu without reinstalling?
[09:31] <spikeb> yeah dutchee
[09:31] <g1gaman> linux_galore, thank you very much. another question. maybe i should choose kubuntu, if i'll to reinstall system?
[09:31] <samuli> dutchee, yes.
[09:31] <siccness> hintswen: Heh, don't worry mate, it'll all come to you. Have a bourbon :P
[09:32] <linux_galore> g1gaman: up to you I prefere Kubuntu
[09:32] <siccness> Took me about 24hrs to get my computer to work, because of a stupid motherboard confliction :PP
[09:32] <spikeb> haha siccness
[09:32] <linux_galore> g1gaman: its a personal thing
[09:32] <shalos> thats computers for ya hints.... take a break.. get a good night sleep.. dream about killing your comp.. come back at it the enxt day
[09:32] <siccness> Never, ever buy DFI motherboards.
[09:32] <shalos> really? heard those where the ones to buy
[09:32] <siccness> Good lord no.
[09:32] <siccness> They're stable once they're working.
[09:32] <siccness> Getting them to work is another issue.
[09:33] <NateBHere> It is realy a shame.  I've gotten Linspire to work, and I am impressed, with how well linux works, but it just takes so much effort to get it to work.  One of the project developers seriously needs to put some effort to  making a Linux version that is more user friendly.  Then the Linux community could explode since there would be no reason to use windows.  But that is just a Linux virgins opinion.
[09:33] <g1gaman> linux_galore, is kde easier to use? which gui needs less ram and cpu resources?
[09:33] <shalos> well dapper should be easier  nate.. its the newer version trying to get those things
[09:33] <shalos> siccness really?? oh well had bad luck with my msi mobo too
[09:33] <linux_galore> g1gaman: pretty much the same
[09:33] <spikeb> NateBHere: that's what we're trying to do with ubuntu
[09:33] <spikeb> NateBHere: key word being trying
[09:33] <Madpilot> g1gaman, KDE uses even more RAM/resources than Gnome does
[09:33] <siccness> Yeah, I'm not really a fan of MSI either.
[09:33] <g1gaman> Madpilot, thank you
[09:33] <siccness> Next motherboard will probably be Abit.
[09:34] <samuli> to me KDE is faster in ubuntu
[09:34] <shalos> nb fan went out on it.. had to replace it.. but i think i got damaged.. so  usb  doesnt come  on everyone once in a while
[09:34] <g1gaman> samuli, are you sure?
[09:34] <spikeb> if you use breezy, it is faster.
[09:34] <samuli> so I wouldn't say it uses more resources.. maybe that's just better use of them :)
[09:34] <siccness> Heh shalos.
[09:34] <linux_galore> Madpilot: really, do you know you can define the kde ram footprint in the settings, some have got it as small as 34mb
[09:34] <samuli> gigaman, I'm not the only one saying kde runs better for them. Still, I prefer gnome.
[09:34] <Bilford> ok, Dapper Beta
[09:34] <siccness> Yeah, gnome is smoother imo. :)
[09:35] <NateBHere> That's another reason that I decided to try Ubuntu.  The statements on the home site, made me feel that I could try the switch to Linux because it portrayed a community that is freindly to all people of all computing abilities.
[09:35] <linux_galore> siccness: to me gnome is slower by a mile
[09:35] <kakalto> hi, I just installed ubuntu hoary in server mode on my older comp, and I'm just wondering how to install my sound card?
[09:35] <shalos> really? something must be wrong there
[09:35] <spikeb> NateBHere: we have to be friendly, because the software is nowhere near where it should be yet :)
[09:35] <kakalto> it's an ISA card
[09:35] <iNiku> my experience is also that KDE feels a lot more responsive than gnome
[09:35] <siccness> linux_galore: Guess it really comes down to conditions.
[09:35] <linux_galore> also on my tests gnome has a  27mb "larger" ram footprint
[09:36] <spikeb> iNiku: gnome only recently started working on optimising itself
[09:36] <kakalto> Creative Sound Blaster AWE64
[09:36] <iNiku> spikeb: seems like they have a ways to go
[09:36] <shalos> yea but gnome slower than kde just doesnt seem right to me
[09:36] <samuli> g1gaman: Why don't you try both out. I have both in my ubuntu and I switch to whichever I'm feeling that day.
[09:36] <linux_galore> <-- has kde 3.5.3  runs as smooth as
[09:36] <spikeb> iNiku: 2.14 is pretty fast, but yeah they do have a ways to go. and they have a lot of ways to do it, so that's good
[09:36] <linux_galore> although right now Im on e17
[09:37] <iNiku> spikeb: well, it's good that they are working on it
[09:37] <Madpilot> Folks, random Gnome vs KDE vs the world chat can continue on #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[09:37] <samuli> linux_galore, like living on the edge huh? :)
[09:37] <siccness> My apologies, Madpilot.
[09:37] <Bilford> now I have to figure out how I got mod_rewrite and something else working
[09:37] <linux_galore> yeah get rid of Nautilus its horrible, konqueror is just so much better
[09:37] <CaptainMorgan> is there a manual on amarok? ever since upgrade I find it difficult to use..
[09:37] <g1gaman> samuli, i am not such an advanced person. and i have to download kubuntu if i will choose to try it
[09:37] <CaptainMorgan> !amarok
[09:37] <ubotu> methinks amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[09:37] <linux_galore> samuli: actually i installed e17 last year under Vector Linux
[09:38] <NateBHere> This is by far the friendliest Linux chat forum I've ever been in.  All the other forums I've been in are full of quite frankly arrogant a$$holes.  Who think that just because you do not know how to use Linux that you are some how lesser than them.  They seam to forget that they once too were likely a windows retard like (what's the windows world wid market now 90% of the world PC users) the rest of the world.
[09:38] <samuli> g1gaman, it's really easy.. If you have ubuntu just do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop (or kde or kde-base)
[09:38] <metatag> !seen sabdfl
[09:38] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'sabdfl', metatag
[09:38] <shalos> yea ubuntu is great that way nate.. also if ya look around the ubuntuforums.org ya can learn a  lot
[09:38] <linux_galore> NateBHere: lots of australians thats why and were easy going
[09:39] <shalos> :-)
[09:39] <Madpilot> NateBHere, we have a good community - and ruthless ops here ;)
[09:39] <NateBHere> LOL why so many Ausies?
[09:39] <g1gaman> samuli, ok i'll do that. and how to remove gnome?
[09:39] <samuli> g1gaman, you don't have to remove it.
[09:39] <linux_galore> NateBHere: blame Jeff Waugh
[09:40] <shalos> whos jeff waugh?
[09:40] <linux_galore> lol
[09:40] <CaptainMorgan> I speicifically don't like that there's no option for 'new playlist' ...
[09:40] <g1gaman> samuli, but gnome'is broken anyway
[09:40] <samuli> g1gaman: well, there's no easy way to get rid of all of it.
[09:40] <NateBHere> Ruthless ops?
[09:40] <linux_galore> shalos: do a google search
[09:40] <samuli> g1gaman: just try kde and if it works for you, we'll figure something out :P
[09:41] <g1gaman> samuli, if i'll do sudo aptitude install kde, will kde start automatically after installation?
[09:42] <roryy> !kubuntu
[09:42] <samuli> g1gaman, you need to log out and choose to log in to kde from gdm.
[09:42] <ubotu> [kubuntu]  Ubuntu+KDE  ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[09:42] <NateBHere> You know that is probably the one country in the world that I would love visit some day.
[09:42] <Madpilot> NateBHere, anyone trolling or being offensive is likely to only do it for a very, very short time before being removed
[09:42] <NateBHere> Ah
[09:43] <Bilford> how do you turn on MySQL again
[09:44] <NateBHere> Get it.  Sorry Ubugtu.  I ment now malice for using $$ to make my sware.  I'm just letting y'all know that I appreciate the Ubuntu community much better than thoes of other Linux communites.  I will refrain from swearing futher
[09:44] <linux_galore> NateBHere: put ya feet up an have a tinny mate
[09:44] <NateBHere> Hum, that has got to be an Ausie slang lemme see if I can translate
[09:44] <shalos> haha
[09:45] <NateBHere> Sit down and relax?
[09:45] <linux_galore> NateBHere: basically have a seat and heres a beer
[09:45] <spikeb> yes sir NateBHere
[09:45] <spikeb> NateBHere: or "make yourself at home"
[09:45] <Hobbsee> NateBHere: Ubugtu is usually a bot...
[09:45] <Hobbsee> FYI
[09:45] <dutchee> is dapper and breezy the same thing?
[09:45] <Catavari> Good morning everyone
[09:45] <NateBHere> thanks I apppreciate it
[09:45] <linux_galore> NateBHere: beer comes in tins
[09:45] <Hobbsee> linux_galore: rubbish!  it comes in big kegs :P
[09:46] <shalos> kegs yes kegs
[09:46] <spikeb> haha Hobbsee
[09:46] <NateBHere> We got alluminium cans, but mostly now bottels
[09:46] <linux_galore> heh heh only if your german
[09:46] <mathieu_> Ello
[09:46] <Madpilot> linux_galore, good beer comes in bottles. Stuff that might just get you buzzed lurks in cans ;)
[09:46] <shalos> haha
[09:46] <NateBHere> Ya know I will go get that beer, want one?
[09:46] <Catavari> is the latest ubuntu 6.06 beta the dapper flight 7 ?
[09:47] <shalos> yes
[09:47] <linux_galore> beer in a bottle, sacrilege
[09:47] <spikeb> Catavari: yup
[09:47] <notes> Hi
[09:47] <shalos> hey
[09:47] <spikeb> real sacrilege is mountain dew in a bottle
[09:47] <Catavari> spikeb: Wuld you hppen to jnow when, in june, will the final verdion be released?
[09:47] <spikeb> Catavari: the first
[09:48] <shalos> not to far away
[09:48] <linux_galore> spikeb: yeah suger + lemons + lots of chemicals and bad advertising = mountain dew
[09:48] <Catavari> june the 1st?
[09:48] <Catavari> Great :)
[09:48] <notes> How can I change keyboard layout ?
[09:48] <spikeb> notes: system menu, preferences, keyboard
[09:48] <linux_galore> notes:   run gnome-control-centre
[09:49] <linux_galore> or look in the system menu
[09:49] <NateBHere> Speaking of Beer is Fosters a good Austrailian beer.  I like it but is there better Ausie Beers?
[09:49] <linux_galore> actually fosters is american
[09:49] <shalos> doh
[09:49] <Catavari> Any story of success installing dapper beta on an HP Pavillion ZD8480 ?
[09:49] <spikeb> foster's is american for australian beer
[09:49] <mathieu_> so uhm, is there like any howto on making playing WMV files less of a complete pain? :/
[09:49] <g1gaman> how to start gnome-control-centre?
[09:49] <NateBHere> LOL
[09:49] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell mathieu_ about restricted
[09:49] <shalos> i have an older 5000zx that the older  version worked on catavari..
[09:50] <dutchee> I thought dapper wasn't available yet
[09:50] <notes> I have no gnome-control-centre
[09:50] <linux_galore> g1gaman: open a terminal and type  gnome-control-center
[09:50] <shalos> maybe center?
[09:50] <NateBHere> Yeah I've heard that American beers are pretty lame compared to other nations national beers
[09:50] <mathieu_> thank you sir
[09:50] <spikeb> notes: follow my directions instead
[09:50] <linux_galore> yeah center bloody yank spelling
[09:50] <shalos> haha
[09:50] <Catavari> dutchee: hummm... i guess it's woth a try... thanks
[09:50] <notes> but I added keyboard layout already, but I can't change it. what's the shotcut key ?
[09:51] <dutchee> where can you get dapper drake?
[09:51] <g1gaman> linux_galore  it says that command is not found
[09:51] <Catavari> where?
[09:51] <KenSentMe> !dapper
[09:51] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[09:51] <hexagene> has anyone had problems with fontlock mode in emacs?
[09:51] <Catavari> try in ubuntu ftp
[09:51] <Catavari> hexagene: Not me
[09:51] <shalos> or you could upgrade if  you already have an older  version
[09:51] <linux_galore> g1gaman: type  gnome-control-center
[09:52] <dutchee> OK.  so breezy is the current version?
[09:52] <linux_galore> g1gaman: one word no spaces
[09:52] <Catavari> no
[09:52] <Catavari> dapper is
[09:52] <shalos> dapper  isnt  officially released yet til june
[09:52] <Catavari> dapper drake flight 7
[09:52] <Catavari> yes
[09:52] <dutchee> OK.
[09:52] <dutchee> thanks
[09:52] <NateBHere> What was that converstaion about Mountian Dew?  LOL
[09:52] <Catavari> dutchee: I am using dapper drake flight 7
[09:53] <linux_galore> NateBHere: my cat drank it and now all its hair fell out
[09:53] <dutchee> where did you get it?
[09:53] <Catavari> dutchee: It's a charm, actually :)
[09:53] <NateBHere> Your kidding me?
[09:53] <Catavari> As i said befor on ubuntu ftp
[09:53] <g1gaman> linux_galore, now it says gtk+ warning **: cannot open display
[09:53] <shalos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight7 there
[09:53] <hexagene> the same .emacs works like a champ on other distross
[09:53] <linux_galore> NateBHere: heh heh, much to learn about aussie humour
[09:53] <NateBHere> LOL I supse so
[09:53] <hexagene> but has issues on ubuntu breezy and dapper for some reaosn
[09:53] <hexagene> reason
[09:54] <mathieu_> ubuntu is trying protecting you from yourself :P
[09:54] <mathieu_> *goes to hide under a table*
[09:54] <NateBHere> If you guys are the typcal example of Aussie, I think i would love it there.
[09:54] <KenSentMe> dutchee: here you can download it: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[09:54] <eristikophiles> trying to get my 2nd cd drive to work, and it's being strange
[09:54] <linux_galore> g1gaman: do you have the desktop running
[09:54] <dutchee> cool.  thanks
[09:55] <eristikophiles> i tried "sudo mount /media/cdrom1 -o unhide" as the help page says. it says it can't find any such device in fstab or mtab
[09:55] <eristikophiles> ... i also tried "sudo mount -rv -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom1 /cd2
[09:55] <g1gaman> linux_galore, no, i've done ctrl+alt+f2, then typed gnome-control-center in command line
[09:55] <eristikophiles> but that doesn't work either
[09:55] <linux_galore> g1gaman: ok you have to run it in a terminal on the desktop, its a graphical tool
[09:56] <mathieu_> Madpilot: any way to make totem understand 'mms' urls ?
[09:56] <Madpilot> mathieu, no idea, sorry
[09:56] <eristikophiles> is there any reason my cd drive wouldn't be recognized at all?
[09:56] <eristikophiles> i know it's old. but i mean.. it's still a working drive
[09:56] <g1gaman> linux_galore, i can't get terminal on desktop, 'cause i've lost my panels
[09:56] <NateBHere> If I ever get Ubuntu to work what would you guys recommend I use to run the couple Windows based games I play?
[09:56] <mathieu_> well atleast it's not saying it can't find the hostname anymore
[09:56] <mathieu_> :)
[09:57] <eristikophiles> NateBHere- qemu or wine
[09:57] <shalos> cedega maybe too
[09:57] <wenko> Nate: just dual boot
[09:57] <shalos> that would be the best option
[09:57] <Catavari> NateBHere: or try win4lin
[09:57] <linux_galore> g1gaman: hmm always install the xubuntu desktop   apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  its a minimal desktop and you can select it in the login screen
[09:58] <NateBHere> wow that sounds like the whole list
[09:58] <mathieu_> cedega should be the better one
[09:58] <octan> pastebin is down.. what other sites like that is there?
[09:58] <mathieu_> cedega being wine with a little more Direct3D UNF
[09:58] <shalos> yea. but unfortunatly you cant play everything in linux
[09:58] <spikeb> a LOT more, actually
[09:58] <spikeb> heh
[09:58] <mathieu_> :)
[09:59] <linux_galore> g1gaman: make sure you run sudo apt-get update first
[09:59] <NateBHere> yeah I tried Cedega in Linspire and it did not work.
[09:59] <shalos> :-/
[09:59] <g1gaman> linux_galore, have done it
[09:59] <linux_galore> g1gaman: then run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:59] <shalos> what game nate?
[09:59] <NateBHere> Ultima On Line
[09:59] <mathieu_> well, as they sell subscriptions
[09:59] <Catavari> ? What the hell is that?
[10:00] <mathieu_> you might consult their support desk on that
[10:00] <mathieu_> :)
[10:00] <linux_galore> g1gaman: then just logout of the gnome desktop and select the xfce4 desktop in the menu
[10:00] <g1gaman> linux_galore, i have setting that user logs in automatically without login screen
[10:00] <linux_galore> g1gaman: in the login screen
[10:00] <NateBHere> Catacari - Are you asking what the hell is Ultima On Line?
[10:00] <linux_galore> g1gaman: you can still log out and back in again or hit ctrl alt backspace
[10:01] <Catavari> NateBHere: Yep
[10:01] <Knelix> Anyone ever tried transferring photos from a Nokia 6101 to an Ubuntu PC?
[10:01] <shalos> hehe
[10:01] <g1gaman> aah so
[10:01] <NateBHere> Only the first MMORPG.
[10:01] <g1gaman> then i'll apt-get install xubuntu-desktop now
[10:01] <linux_galore> g1gaman: also you can try deleting the ~/./gnome directory
[10:01] <NateBHere> and it still has the largest base of active player
[10:01] <YoussefAssad> does ubuntu have the equivalent of mandriva's chkconfig? A command line tool to manipulate the services in the various runlevels?
[10:02] <linux_galore> g1gaman: should force it to g back to the default
[10:02] <linux_galore> go*
[10:02] <NateBHere> Want a link?
[10:02] <shalos> nate have ya seen this website? http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Category:Games  .. give ya a good idea what works and not.. and has tips for games or tweaks ya have to do
[10:02] <Catavari> NateBHere: I see... Thanks :) I am really not into games... so, no wonder i don't know it :) Thanks anyway :)
[10:02] <linux_galore> g1gaman: type in a terminal  cd [enter] 
[10:02] <linux_galore> g1gaman: then rm  -rf  .gnome/
[10:03] <linux_galore> g1gaman: then restart the desktop with ctrl alt backspace
[10:03] <Bilford> MySQL worked before upgrading to Dapper.  Now I get:  #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[10:03] <linux_galore> [enter]  = hit enter key
[10:04] <NateBHere> Wow that is discouraging.  UO is not even mentioned
[10:04] -People-is-me:#ubuntu- go to #People channel!
[10:04] -People-is-me:#ubuntu- go to #People channel!
[10:04] -People-is-me:#ubuntu- go to #People channel!
[10:04] -People-is-me:#ubuntu- go to #People channel!
[10:04] -People-is-me:#ubuntu- go to #People channel!
[10:04] <shalos> hmm
[10:05] <eristikophiles> what is #people channel ? ;p
[10:05] <linux_galore> Bilford: when you upgrde it also flushed many of the settings files that may cause conflicts
[10:05] <shalos> what was that?
[10:05] <eristikophiles> is that to be taken seriously?
[10:05] <samuli> it was nothing :)
[10:05] <Bilford> linux_galore- what do I do
[10:05] <eristikophiles> *shrug*
[10:05] <linux_galore> Bilford: basically treat it like a new install of mysql
[10:06] <eristikophiles> so like.. this is annoying. i can't very well remove the livecd to use that drive.. but the other cd drive is apparently not being recognized by ubuntu.
[10:06] <eristikophiles> i can't mount it, it's like it doesn't exist.
[10:06] <eristikophiles> it almost makes me want to check the ide cables.. but i know the bios sees it
[10:06] <samuli> what the heck.. It's taking forever to unrar one 700mb package.
[10:06] <mathieu_> ahh, it's pulling the old matrix trick..
[10:06] <g1gaman> linux_galore, ehm, erasing gnome directory will restore default gnome desktop settings? sounds crazy
[10:06] <mathieu_> "But how can you install.... when you cannot... MOUNT!?"
[10:06] <linux_galore> eristikophiles: what is on the other cd
[10:06] <eristikophiles> linux_galore- mp3s.
[10:07] <eristikophiles> but the fact that the drive isn't reading it, or rather that the o/s isn't reading the drive, is irritating
[10:07] <linux_galore> eristikophiles: so its a data cd not a music cd
[10:07] <eristikophiles> i can't install btw because my hd isn't working
[10:07] <eristikophiles> yeah
[10:07] <Bilford> mysqld.sock disappeared
[10:07] <samuli> g1gaman: , those in .gnome in your home directory aren't gnome-files but your specific configuration.
[10:07] <eristikophiles> i'm running off primary cd drive (livecd)
[10:07] <linux_galore> eristikophiles: even if it could see it it wont play them anyway
[10:07] <mathieu_> turns out totem doesn't understand mms urls ( not even with gstreamer0.8-mms installed ), kaffeine works though
[10:07] <g1gaman> samuli, oh i c
[10:07] <NateBHere> Well I'm gonna go to the Cedega IRC and see what enyone there has to say about UO
[10:08] <NateBHere> thanks again for all you help guys  pleaseur chating with y'all
[10:08] <samuli> g1gaman, there's lots of other configuration type of things hidden in your home directory too.
[10:08] <linux_galore> eristikophiles:  mp3 is a proprietry file format
[10:09] <eristikophiles> um.
[10:09] <eristikophiles> yeah.. well, it's not a big deal what data is on the disc.. if i can't access the disc.
[10:09] <linux_galore> g1gaman: what I was doing was flushing the gnome setting directory so it would go back to the default before you buggered it up
[10:09] <Bilford> I guess I'll just remove everything and anything that has to do with MySQL
[10:09] <Bilford> and then install  again
[10:10] <Calgar> hmm, odd, hibernation diddent work, anyone help?
[10:10] <linux_galore> Bilford: I usually avoid updates, just do a fresh install, too many things to break
[10:10] <NateBHere> Well that's disabpointing 76 people and no one is alve in there
[10:11] <Bilford> linux_galore- thats pretty drastic
[10:11] <linux_galore> Bilford: I do that about 30 times every 6 months, no big deal
[10:12] <linux_galore> Bilford: on different machine obviuodly
[10:12] <Bilford> linux_galore- you burn all your files to DVD or something?
[10:12] <linux_galore> obviously*
[10:12] <Calgar> how do i get hibernation working with my laptop? its a mitac 8050D
[10:12] <Calgar> please
[10:12] <linux_galore> billytwowilly: yes I have a automated backup and I always have a hugs ftp file server
[10:12] <linux_galore> huge*
[10:12] <Bilford> but I cant do a fresh install with Dapper, can I?
[10:13] <spikeb> yeah you can
[10:13] <linux_galore> Bilford: the file server i only reinstall every two years
[10:13] <Bilford> but will I have to do another fresh install once Dapper is officially released?
[10:13] <spikeb> no
[10:13] <linux_galore> Bilford: no from now on its just fine tuning
[10:13] <Bilford> ok
[10:14] <Bilford> where is the CD image for Dapper
[10:14] <slackern> Bilford: I dist upgraded from hoary to breezy and then to dapper and that worked fine for me.
[10:14] <linux_galore> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight7
[10:14] <Bilford> ty
[10:14] <popey> i too dist-upgraded from hoary to breezy to dapper
[10:14] <mathieu_> same here, but from warty
[10:14] <spikeb> cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:15] <linux_galore> slackern: for a normal desktop thats fine but if your like me and have a few services configured it always breaks
[10:15] <popey> there's no such thing as a normal desktop
[10:15] <delmar> Anyone here have a clue about usb scanners on ubuntu?
[10:15] <llukax> does anyone know how to upgrade kubuntu?
[10:16] <delmar> i cant seem to get my scanner to show up anywhere and the info i have read online is confusing.. refers to a "Scanner" module.. and libusb and all sorts.. doesn't help me any... my scanner just doesn't detect.
[10:16] <slackern> linux_galore: i run apache2/php5/mysql, mpd and proftpd on this
[10:16] <eristikophiles> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo mount -rv -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom1 /cd2
[10:16] <eristikophiles> mount: No medium found
[10:16] <linux_galore> popey: normal desktop dont run samba/postgres/exim
[10:16] <eristikophiles> that's still what's up.
[10:16] <eristikophiles> ;p
[10:16] <slackern> linux_galore: but i see what you mean though, there are more stuff out there that can break.
[10:16] <siccness> hmm, might have to pay more attention to my processes. gam_server's cutting sick :|
[10:16] <eristikophiles> this thing is pissing me off. if i can't have a working hd.. ok, i can deal until i can fix it.
[10:17] <eristikophiles> but... why can't the *cd* drive work ?! ;p
[10:17] <tchize> Hello, i need someone to help me fixing the installation of my dapper drake, so i can send a bug report to ubuntu team and get them to fix it before final
[10:17] <linux_galore> slackern: also the updates have been pretty extreme on this release
[10:18] <NateBHere> Well good night all have a great day I go to get to bed need to be at work in like 5 hours so I got to get some sleep
[10:18] <linux_galore> tchize: whats the problem
[10:19] <animato> hello, does ubuntu run a bt service?
[10:19] <tchize> touchpad not recognized, wireless card modem complaining something about unable to load a firmware
[10:19] <tchize> s/modem/module
[10:20] <linux_galore> slackern: its more to do with time, in most cases an straight update will work but one in 5 will have some hidden bug that can take ages to stomp, I have very little time spare at work so I go for what produces the least amount of friction
[10:20] <tchize> am quite experienced with linux, but that's the first time i try to install it on a mobile computer
[10:20] <delmar> Anyone here have any idea why Thunderbird (pointing to an imap account on exchange2k3) isn't showing the correct message when I click on it? like.. the message I select to view in the window above, is never the actual message displayed in the preview pane below.  its as if thunderbird doesn't speak the correct kinda IMAP and its getting all mixed up.
[10:20] <tchize> so i neverplayed with touh pad and in never had t play with firmwares
[10:21] <slackern> linux_galore: that seems reasonable.
[10:21] <Ademan> hrm, firefox crashes a lot when i minimize it... anyone ever have this?
[10:21] <spikeb> not i
[10:21] <spikeb> but i just updated, so maybe it's a new thing
[10:21] <delmar> Ademan, nope. latest version?
[10:21] <Bilford> spikeb- You just updated to Dapper with a fresh install?
[10:21] <tchize> btw, where to i report problems with dapper drake to get them fixed?
[10:22] <spikeb> Bilford: just did a fresh install of dapper off the beta2 cd, and am updating it
[10:22] <Ademan> delmar: this is a recent (developed) problem... its been fine for about a month, now its crap
[10:22] <Ademan> i almost feel like i got a virus or something...
[10:22] <delmar> Ademan, could be i guess. maybe a hard-drive issue?
[10:23] <Ademan> delmar: everything else is fine
[10:23] <linux_galore> tchize: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/bugs
[10:23] <delmar> Ademan, i would have thought a software problem at first but if no software has changed or been upgraded in a month... and its just started....
[10:23] <Ademan> is it really pheasible that I've got a virus?
[10:23] <delmar> Ademan, if u login to a fresh/new user profile and use it.. what happens?
[10:23] <Ademan> i dunno i guess i'll try and find out
[10:23] <delmar> Ademan, its possible.
[10:23] <spikeb> Ademan: no. you're just running into buggy software
[10:24] <Misnix> Ademan, firefox 1.0.8 does that with me too, about 1-2 a day
[10:24] <Ademan> delmar: but how would it install itself? I'm not root i havent got the permission to make any such modifications
[10:24] <Ademan> Misnix: huh... strange... so its just the software then?
[10:24] <YoussefAssad> firefox crashing? Isn't that one of the firefox core functionality areas?
[10:24] <linux_galore> Ademan: get firefox 1.5.3
[10:25] <w00l909> hello techies!
[10:25] <linux_galore> Ademan: you dont have to install it just download the tarbal from the mozilla page
[10:25] <eristikophiles> so can i save my prefs onto a usb flash drive for future livecd boots?
[10:25] <delmar> So.. Evolution blows chunks and crashes every 30mins for me... Thunderbird 1.0(whatever it was) messes up my email ... Thunderbird 1.5.2(or whatever it is) does the same thing...is there any decent mail package for linux/ubuntu that even bloody works?
[10:25] <captainredbeard> I want to backup my panel arrangement so when I reinstall ubuntu I can just reload the config without having to manually change it, I found the settings in configuration editor, how do I save them?
[10:25] <Misnix> Ademan, 1.5 on a different comp. runs fine, probably a prob. with 1.0.8
[10:25] <linux_galore> Ademan: unpacke the tarbal then just creat a link the the firefox binary in the new file thats unpacked to your desktop or taskbar
[10:26] <linux_galore> I found 1.08 buggy as hell
[10:26] <Bilford> Dapper Drake doesnt have OpenOffice anymore
[10:26] <Bilford> thats weird
[10:26] <delmar> heh
[10:26] <Ademan> linux_galore: i actually meant how would the virus install itself
[10:26] <spikeb> yeah it does
[10:26] <delmar> Firefox 1.08 is one of the few things that so far.. hasn't given me trouble at all
[10:26] <linux_galore> Ademan: it cant
[10:27] <Bilford> hm
[10:27] <Bilford> oh well, I'll wait until I do a fresh install
[10:27] <Bilford> 18% downloaded
[10:28] <linux_galore> Ademan: you can always flush the ~/.mozilla/  directory (just rename it mozilla-old) sometimes that fixes firefox
[10:28] <delmar> This Dapper thing i hear about.. this is the next ubuntu version up? im running ubunty 5.10.. is it easy to upgrade/migrate or is it better to re-install from cd/dvd ? or should I not bother with Dapper? whats different?
[10:28] <Bilford> whats the biggest difference between Dapper and Breezy
[10:28] <hyperstream> is there anyway to mount a dvd iso file into my cdrom so that a game im trying to launch thinks its a dvd rom with the dvd in it ? or an emulation app like deamontools(win32) and no mount -o loop /file.mdf /dir doesnt work it still spins up the cdrom device
[10:28] <spikeb> delmar: easy to upgrade
[10:28] <linux_galore> Bilford: gnome is faster and more hardware support
[10:28] <delmar> spikeb, whats different... just later packages?
[10:28] <delmar> spikeb, more like.. debian sid/unstable ?
[10:28] <Bilford> linux_galore- oh , faster is good
[10:29] <Ademan> linux_galore: i might try that, but i kinda feel like i might as well upgrade
[10:29] <pvd2006> How do you get mastroka .mkv files to show subtitles in ubuntu? mplayer plays the video just doesnt have any subs.
[10:29] <delmar> spikeb, be like going from sarge to sid ?
[10:29] <spikeb> delmar: newer packages, more work done on making it user friendly, is faster, and will be supported for approximately eleventy billion years
[10:29] <Ademan> i'm so used to using apt-get how do i deal with the tarball?
[10:29] <linux_galore> Ademan: takes 2 seconds to rename the file
[10:29] <spikeb> delmar: ok so only 3 years of support, but that's a lifetime
[10:29] <linux_galore> Ademan: easy fix
[10:29] <delmar> spikeb, yep. so i should upgrade?
[10:29] <spikeb> delmar: when it goes stable, yeah
[10:29] <spikeb> delmar: i would recommend that :)
[10:30] <delmar> spikeb, ive been playing with Debian "unstable" for years. prefer that because the packages are much newer
[10:30] <tchize> ok, so anyone as here as experience installing ubuntu / kubuntu on a ibook G4 ?
[10:30] <delmar> spikeb, so if its like that.. i might as well gib that a go
[10:30] <linux_galore> I can imagine running anything thats 3 years old in Linux
[10:30] <linux_galore> cant*
[10:30] <spikeb> delmar: heh, i hated unstable
[10:30] <spikeb> delmar: when i ran debian, i was one of the few who actually ran stable
[10:30] <delmar> spikeb, do u run Dapper now?
[10:31] <spikeb> delmar: yes, in fact im running dapper beta, oddly enough
[10:31] <delmar> spikeb, well i certainly don't run unstable on my colo server... its not for playing with :P
[10:31] <linux_galore> I run stable (debain) to this day on the file server at work, rock solid
[10:31] <linux_galore> debian*
[10:31] <spikeb> delmar: i dont plan on upgrading until the next long term service release comes out, though :)
[10:32] <Ademan> so far it hasnt crashed
[10:32] <delmar> spikeb, ok.. so I take it I just need to change some apt sources, apt-get update, and dist-upgrade and its on the way.. or is there more too it? hrm.
[10:32] <spikeb> !upgrade
[10:32] <ubotu> [upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[10:32] <spikeb> delmar: check out the links
[10:32] <linux_galore> Debian stable is a good excuse to be lazy,, I keep it updated  lol
[10:33] <spikeb> heh, debian stable, centos, and now dapper LTS - all my favorites have one thing in common - long release cycles
[10:33] <delmar> linux_galore, yep. i still got hacked tho
[10:33] <delmar> linux_galore, but that was more the package itself that allowed the exploit.
[10:33] <linux_galore> delmar: not me, not for years to be honest, got a T1 at work heaps of linux machines and never been hacked
[10:34] <delmar> linux_galore, anoyingly the package in question.. i was on their site and downloaded a security patch that was released that very day... then they released a patch for that particular exploit a couple days later.. and i missed it.
[10:34] <linux_galore> delmar: only got hacked one on a dial up connection about 6 years ago
[10:34] <linux_galore> once*
[10:34] <snowfaked> :o my laptop's tft is blinking
[10:34] <delmar> linux_galore, this wasnt a hack so much as it was just being a pain in the arse
[10:34] <snowfaked> wonder what causes it... haven't changed any settings from yesterday
[10:34] <delmar> linux_galore, hacked would mean root access or shell access.. they couldnt get that far
[10:35] <IEdmont> Does anyone know if the final release of dapper is still on schedule for 1st june?
[10:35] <spikeb> IEdmont: yup
[10:35] <delmar> linux_galore, too much encryption... my wife setup the encryption tighter than her u know where.. and thats saying something :P
[10:35] <linux_galore> delmar: be suprised if they actually got into the network, three firewall and an IDS packet filter
[10:35] <YoussefAssad> is there somewhere to get more recent kernels for ubuntu?
[10:35] <IEdmont> excellent thanks
[10:35] <YoussefAssad> I'm on the 2.6.12-10-686 kernel atm
[10:36] <siccness> Has anyone done the upgrade to Gamin v. 0.1.7 in Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:36] <snowfaked> hmh, can i check refrsh rate from somewhere else than from "screen resolution preferences" in gnome?
[10:36] <poningru> YoussefAssad: you can get the latest one by updating to ubuntu 6.06 beta
[10:36] <linux_galore> delmar: there are some distro that have everythong encrypted even the file system and swap
[10:36] <snowfaked> this shows my refresh rate would only be 50Hz
[10:36] <poningru> its going to come out in 2 weeks
[10:37] <poningru> well the release is gonna come out in 2 weeks
[10:37] <poningru> the beta (flight 7) was out a week ago
[10:37] <poningru> !flight 7
[10:37] <ubotu> poningru: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:37] <poningru> !flight7
[10:37] <ubotu> I heard flight7 is available via http://www.ubuntu.com/testing, or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[10:38] <YoussefAssad> poningru: Hmm. That's an option I agree. No clear options for 5.10 users though?
[10:38] <linux_galore> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight7
[10:38] <delmar> linux_galore, yeah i setup my own bawx with some cryptoFS.  had the sql, mail, www, logs, home dirs... all encrypted... only snag was .. if the box was rebooted.. u had to login to run the script and enter the pass phrases to mount the encrypted volumes and start the effected services
[10:38] <poningru> YoussefAssad: you can compile it yourself
[10:38] <poningru> !kernel
[10:39] <poningru> ubotu: kernel
[10:39] <linux_galore> delmar: I did the crpto stuff on a system, hardisk got a bad sector and the whole thing went south
[10:39] <vbgunz> I am trying to use the regexcoach application on Ubuntu. it doesn't start and states it cannot find libXm.so.2... Anyone know how I can get this? I believe it is part of a motif lib or something but am not sure
[10:39] <delmar> linux_galore, i guess u need some raid mirror to help that :P
[10:41] <linux_galore> delmar: I just use LIDS now and I tell everyone not to leave private stuff on there machine but dump it in the virtual data safe (secure file server)
[10:41] <JinRoh> Anyone with a Creative Webcam NX Pro got it working ? (it always says "No space left on device" and I have tried a lot of how-tos (I have AMD64)
[10:41] <delmar> u know what.. since the stable release of Dapper is so close... all going to plan of course.... I am better go sit tight for now.
[10:42] <linux_galore> JinRoh: its very beta right now
[10:42] <Bilford> Dapper Drake CD 40% downloaded
[10:42] <JinRoh> linux_galore, what is very beta?
[10:44] <roryy> almost gamma
[10:44] <Bilford> what does Flight 7 mean
[10:45] <delmar> So... back to my Scanner problem.... I have a Microtek scanmaker 3800... i would have at least expected the logs to make some kinda song and dance when I plug it in, or to at least see some mention of it in /proc/bus/usb/devices or something but no... it works find when i boot to windows so .. hardware is ok.  anyone have any ideas?
[10:45] <slackern> Bilford: not sure but i guess it's something in the line of "Test Flight Number 7"
[10:45] <Bilford> ok
[10:45] <__filip_> What should i do if i whant GDM instead for KDM? I have KDM now but i whant to switch to GDM.
[10:45] <roryy> 'flight' is the codename for test releases of dapper drake
[10:45] <slyzilla> you speak english
[10:46] <Bilford> __filip_, do a fresh install of Dapper Drake
[10:46] <Calgar> do you need a anti virus, anti spyware and firewall with linux?
[10:47] <s|k> how do I figure out what domain name I used when I installed networking on ubuntu?
[10:47] <dli> Calgar, in short, no
[10:47] <__filip_> Bilford: Is there no other way?
[10:47] <s|k> Calgar: I use firestarter
[10:47] <s|k> it's a firewall
[10:47] <Calgar> ah, so i need a firewall, but nothing else?
[10:47] <s|k> Calgar: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[10:47] <Bilford> http://192.168.1.1/  ?
[10:47] <s|k> Calgar: don't run programs from root
[10:47] <pequatre> hello. can anyone help me with setting up amule through a proxy ? someone who's done that before ?
[10:48] <Calgar> BilFord: thats the address of my router?
[10:48] <Bilford> Calgar-  Linksys
[10:48] <Calgar> Bilford: no
[10:48] <Calgar> Bilford: its actualy made by a company called addon, with a texus instruments chipset
[10:49] <s|k> anyone?
[10:49] <linux_galore> bugger found a really nice howto for setting up the Creative NX webcam with Ubuntu but its spannish ->http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigos/verArtigo.php?codigo=4288
[10:49] <Calgar> altavista?
[10:49] <Bilford> use Google page translator
[10:50] <Calgar> Bilford: googles translation of spanish is....... rubbish
[10:50] <Bilford> lol
[10:50] <Stormx2> how do I run a command recursively on files in a directory?
[10:50] <linux_galore> well the command line stuff is in english
[10:50] <linux_galore> Stormx2: usuall -r or -R
[10:50] <linux_galore> usually*
[10:51] <dli> Stormx2, for f1 in * ; do echo $f1;done
[10:51] <Stormx2> linux_galore: Its a command I wrote ^_^
[10:52] <Stormx2> dli: Where do I put in the command name, in place of echo?
[10:52] <linux_galore> Stormx2: yes but msot of the shell apps have a recursive option
[10:52] <dli> Stormx2, play with it in a tmp folder with your copies
[10:52] <Stormx2> linux_galore: As I just said, its an app that I wrote.
[10:52] <Calgar> odd, i think my [add aplications]  window has crashed, well, i cant find the status popup anyway........
[10:53] <Calgar> help? please
[10:53] <YoussefAssad> funny, using gnome makes me relax a little while working. openbox made me frantic
[10:53] <w00l909> can i install rpm and debian packages on ubuntu
[10:53] <klerfayt> I just read how to install nvidia drivers; doesn't it work in easy way - just running sudo sh NV....pkg1.run --x-prefix=/usr/lib/xorg ?
[10:53] <w00l909> ????
[10:53] <YoussefAssad> (don't tell my boss!)
[10:53] <dli> Calgar, it will prompt you when updates are available
[10:53] <thoreauputic> w00l909: not advisable
[10:53] <dli> w00l909, better to search in repository, rpm sucks
[10:54] <linux_galore> klerfayt: theres an even easier way, use easyubuntu
[10:54] <Calgar> dil: umm, i was trying to add firestarter
[10:54] <dli> Calgar, if you are running services on your boxes, you do need firewall, if not (the default), you don't need firewall
[10:55] <Calgar> dil: oh.......
[10:55] <linux_galore> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[10:55] <Calgar> dil: so how do i fix my broken [add aplications]  window?
[10:55] <YoussefAssad> crap, can't find a way to make evolution download _all_ the mail on gmail, even old and read
[10:56] <Stormx2> dli: I don't think thats going recursively into directories is it?
[10:56] <dli> Calgar, i don't know your issue, not enough info
[10:56] <linux_galore> YoussefAssad: gmail isnt a real mail server
[10:56] <JinRoh> "/dev/video: No space left on device" when trying to get webcam working , anyone know how to fix it? I have installed spca5xx with webcam nx pro (creative)
[10:56] <w00l909> dli thanks
[10:56] <dli> Stormx2, be specific, I'm not good at guessing
[10:57] <snowblink> YoussefAssad, have you enabled gmail POP for all mail?
[10:57] <Calgar> dil: i ticked the box, clicked apply then ok, switched windows to chatzilla, and now everything in my add apliactions window is greyed out and the status popup is gone
[10:57] <Stormx2> dli: Well i'm running the command you said in a directory, and the command is running on files in that directory, but not on files in subdirectories.
[10:57] <YoussefAssad> snowblink: yessir
[10:57] <dli> Calgar, you mean synaptic?
[10:57] <siccness> Heh, fixed my gam_server issue :|
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: something like  for each in $(ls -R) ; do foo $each ; done
[10:58] <Calgar> dil: no, i mean the first option under system -> administration
[10:58] <w00l909> does anyone know how to remove security from pdf or know where should i ask in what channel in mirc
[10:58] <w00l909> ?
[10:58] <siccness> w00l909: Should be File > Options
[10:58] <Calgar> dil: its just called "add applications"
[10:58] <siccness> Although I think mIRC removed it from under File.
[10:58] <dli> Stormx2, say, your command is "~/bin/cat", and you can do "cat foo", now you want to run for all files in a folder?
[10:59] <Stormx2> thoreauputic: I think thats broken because of spaces... hmmmm
[10:59] <Stormx2> dli: Yes.
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: spaces are a pain - there are scripts for replacing spaces with underscores, for example
[10:59] <Stormx2> There was some way with exec {} or something I was told ages ago but forgot to write it down
[10:59] <dli> Calgar, I blame ubuntu, what's wrong with calling it, "Synaptic/Package manager" :(
[11:00] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: you can also do it with sed, but don't ask me for a sed command :)
[11:00] <Calgar> dil: its a differnt program all together......
[11:00] <dli> Stormx2, find /whatever/path -type f -exec cat {} \;
[11:00] <Stormx2> Thats it.
[11:01] <Calgar> dil: oh, a right click and close fixed it *shrugs*
[11:01] <Stormx2> Cheers
[11:02] <eristikophiles> so like.. are there actual help docs for ubuntu?
[11:02] <eristikophiles> ..
[11:03] <eristikophiles> 'cause i mean, i can't seem to find any relevant or useful info off the sites.
[11:03] <eristikophiles> and firefox is crashed and won't open now..
[11:03] <linux_galore> eristikophiles: lots
[11:03] <eristikophiles> and uh.. yeah.. i think i should reboot. only, i wanna save my settings.
[11:03] <popey> eristikophiles: what settings?
[11:03] <eristikophiles> so i have a usb flash drive but i can't tell how to save settings.. and now i can't even look at help sites
[11:03] <Guest_105> hi
[11:04] <eristikophiles> popey- like, the fact that i made changes to prefs in xchat, for example.
[11:04] <popey> eristikophiles: is this the live cd?
[11:04] <eristikophiles> yeah
[11:04] <popey> eristikophiles: is the usb flash device mounted
[11:04] <eristikophiles> ayup
[11:04] <Guest_105> which one I should downloads http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php ??
[11:04] <popey> eristikophiles: you could copy your compe directory to it
[11:05] <popey> eristikophiles: sorry, your home
[11:05] <linux_galore> eristikophiles: save the ~/.xchat2  folder to a USb thumb drive next time you restart put the folder back in the /home/username/  directory
[11:05] <eristikophiles> that makes sense.
[11:05] <duch> hm
[11:05] <linux_galore> eristikophiles: then run xchat
[11:05] <eristikophiles> i guess i was expecting a livecd to have a gui app that automagically sets it up based on a prefs file which may be saved to usb flash or somesuch.
[11:06] <Guest_105> which one should I download http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php ??
[11:06] <linux_galore> eristikophiles: even smarter create a script that saves all the ~/./folders   to the thumb drive
[11:07] <kieran> sorry to disturb. but how do you install an app into ubuntu using the tarball?
[11:07] <uncle_bill_> someone knows where i can pyjamas to sleep whith linux pinguim ?
[11:07] <popey> kieran: which app?
[11:07] <linux_galore> kieran: whats the tarbal name
[11:07] <kieran> firefox
[11:07] <eristikophiles> grr. i think i broke the home dir or something
[11:07] <popey> kieran: firefox 1.5 on breezy?
[11:07] <linux_galore> kieran: dont have to install that just unpack it
[11:07] <dli> kieran, first, why tarball?
[11:07] <popey> !ff1.5
[11:07] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:08] <linux_galore> kieran: ok open a terminal
[11:08] <popey> linux_galore: hang on
[11:08] <popey> linux_galore: he's better off reading that url
[11:08] <Bilford> #1 file people forget to save before reformatting is...
[11:08] <linux_galore> popey: my way is simple and short
[11:08] <popey> Bilford: ~/goat-porn/ ?
[11:08] <linux_galore> popey: only 2 steps
[11:08] <Bilford> lol
[11:08] <Bilford> no, I think it's  bookmarks.html
[11:08] <popey> linux_galore: doesn't matter, there's an official way
[11:09] <popey> Bilford: oh yeah, that too
[11:09] <linux_galore> popey: unless you have audited every line the official way is stupid
[11:09] <Bilford> and IRC logs
[11:09] <popey> linux_galore: in your opinion
[11:09] <Bilford> GMail eliminates the need for saving confusing mail databases
[11:10] <linux_galore> popey: if I havent got a proof of audit I just do it un userspace
[11:10] <linux_galore> in*
[11:10] <linux_galore> popey: and the laugh is it works fine
[11:10] <popey> linux_galore: what is that supposed to mean?
[11:10] <linux_galore> popey: basically the whole thing doesnt leave /home
[11:10] <popey> this isn't for you, it's for kieran
[11:11] <popey> and it's generally better to get people to read the docus if they're available
[11:11] <popey> increase their understdnaing
[11:11] <linux_galore> popey: this is also very easy to do
[11:11] <popey> rather than just bark commands at them
[11:11] <linux_galore> popey: he can click on the folder an unpack it
[11:11] <kieran> the readme just referred me to their website
[11:11] <popey> linux_galore: *I* know, you don't need to tell me
[11:11] <Calgar> this is odd, i seem to have to nslookup the ubuntu servers before installing applications or updating, otherwise it tries to resolve them as 1.0.0.0, can somone help me please?
[11:12] <popey> kieran, read the link below
[11:12] <popey> !ff1.5
[11:12] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:12] <linux_galore> popey: once it unpacked just add a link via the file manager and thats it
[11:12] <popey> linux_galore: *I* *know*
[11:12] <popey> jeez
[11:12] <kieran> thanks
[11:12] <BlueEagle> calgar: are you running any proxy servers like squid?
[11:12] <popey> no probs kieran
[11:13] <Calgar> BlueEagle: uh, im behind a router, if that counts? otherwise, no
[11:13] <BlueEagle> calgar: what is your nameserver set to in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[11:13] <linux_galore> popey: you have to be totally nuts that howto is bazaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
[11:13] <linux_galore> popey: no one tells a newbie to do all that
[11:14] <linux_galore> popey: and why should they for gods sake they just want a browser to work
[11:14] <tsw> give man a fish and he eats today, teach him to catch hes own fish and he has food for rest of hes life
[11:14] <popey> linux_galore: the browser does work
[11:14] <linux_galore> popey: its nuts
[11:15] <popey> so are you going to be here 24x7 when kieran needs help? no.
[11:15] <popey> so we show him the site, so he knows where it is and what it has to offer
[11:15] <linux_galore> popey: I compile the browser too but  I would never tell a new user to do that they will go OK thanks for the help and do nothing, then a few weeks later there running windows
[11:15] <Calgar> BlueEagle: nameserver 192.168.1.1
[11:15] <popey> you're not going to convert me linux_galore, so I'd quit
[11:15] <BlueEagle> calgar: ...and that would be the IP to your router?
[11:16] <Calgar> BlueEagle: yeah
[11:16] <linux_galore> popey: who cares about you your committing suicide at the communities expense
[11:16] <BlueEagle> linux_galore: If you think installing software in linux is hard, please make a better installer.
[11:16] <linux_galore> BlueEagle: thats not an installer that a howto on compiling firefox
[11:16] <popey> committing suicide, linux_galore you don't know me, you don't know what I do for the community, don't talk to me like that, please.
[11:17] <BlueEagle> linux_galore: Then please make a installer that will install firefox on breezy.
[11:17] <dli> linux_galore, ubuntu is a binary based distro
[11:17] <zcat[1] > personally; I think what makes Ubuntu good is apt. telling people to go to some website, download a file, and install it is the windows way of doing things..
[11:17] <linux_galore> BlueEagle: why? you dont have to, just download the official tarbal unpack it with a single click then add 1 link
[11:17] <Bilford> apt-get
[11:17] <popey> linux_galore: and when there's an incompatibility with ubuntu?
[11:17] <popey> linux_galore: or when they lose their plug-ins
[11:18] <popey> linux_galore: or their bookmarks?
[11:18] <callie> bit off topic but i have a question
[11:18] <popey> we'll send them to you
[11:18] <linux_galore> BlueEagle: beats the hell out of the diarrhea in that firefox howto I just read
[11:18] <callie> anyone here have any experience rescueing data of a damaged drive?
[11:18] <Calgar> BlueEagle: so, its a problem with my router? any idea how to fix it?
[11:18] <popey> callie: much as it pains me to say it, spinrite.. http://www.grc.com/
[11:18] <dli> callie, how damaged?
[11:18] <callie> dli, that im not sure of yet
[11:18] <zcat[1] > hardware damage or filesystem damage?
[11:18] <BlueEagle> calgar: Does this happen with every server or just a few?
[11:19] <linux_galore> popey: Ive done the same deal on multiple distro's across the whole office, every machine works not one single problem with that two step method
[11:19] <JinRoh> I don't have sound in my headset now :S How can I check if its a hardware or software problem??
[11:19] <dli> callie, how critical is the data? if you lose it, you be shot?
[11:19] <popey> linux_galore: so?
[11:19] <popey> linux_galore: give up
[11:19] <Calgar> BlueEagle: just the ubuntu servers...... all the internet servers (google ect) work fine
[11:19] <linux_galore> popey: your nuts
[11:19] <popey> it's "you are" or "you're" not "your nuts" thanks
[11:19] <BlueEagle> calgar: Well then I'm stumped.
[11:19] <zcat[1] > take the holy war to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:20] <popey> sure
[11:20] <callie> dli, its mostly personal data and media files so it wouldnt be the end of the world but its stuff i've spent a long time collecting
[11:20] <thoreauputic> !ff1.5
[11:20] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:20] <linux_galore> popey: go and actually try getting windows users to use Linux, I have people who find even windows hard as hell using Linux, but I would never ever dream of getting anyone to do that howto
[11:20] <callie> dli, connecting the drive before boot causes a grub error
[11:20] <popey> linux_galore: you can stop now
[11:20] <Calgar> callie: if its hardware damaged, then you are going to have to pay a company alot of money
[11:21] <needlez> does anyone know hot to configure GAIM so that instead of showing my groups, it shows just who is offline adn online
[11:21] <dli> callie, you may try a usb enclosure
[11:21] <popey> needlez: yeah, i think you can do that
[11:21] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: popey  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:21] <Abountu> callie: where was the data?
[11:21] <zcat[1] > first step in data recovery; don't do ANYTHING to the drive other that try to read from it..
[11:21] <needlez> popey, do you know how>?
[11:21] <linux_galore> popey: Im keeping that howto, Im actually going to use that as a "this is why Linux is stupid" and you comments in my next lecture on OSS and what needs to change
[11:21] <Abountu> callie: cd/ harddisk...?
[11:21] <popey> needlez: just looking
[11:22] <BlueEagle> callie: Then you might just need to re-install grub as connecting the drive might alter the drive numbers and confuse grub.
[11:22] <dli> needlez, Tools -> Preferences
[11:22] <needlez> ok...
[11:22] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: stop please unless you want to be silenced
[11:22] <thoreauputic> popey: you too
[11:22] <popey> roger
[11:22] <callie> Abountu, at the moment it doesnt even seem to be detected, cant see it anywhere in lshw
[11:22] <Calgar> BlueEagle: i have been having problems with the DNS on this router for some time......... i think i might take it back under warrenty and get one of those nice linksys linux models.......
[11:22] <popey> needlez: Buddies --> Sort Buddies --> by status
[11:22] <popey> needlez: like that?
[11:22] <Calgar> BlueEagle: atleast that way i have a snowballs chance in hell of fixing any problems.......
[11:22] <siccness> Hey, how do you check to see what version of gamin is running?
[11:22] <frfx> does anybody know an alternative for openofficewriter?because i want to read .doc's but oowriter is to heavy for my system
[11:22] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: your welcome to silence me, but its would be really dumb as I spend thousands of hours doing FOSS support and man will this hit the fan
[11:23] <Abountu> callie: ok but wher did you have the data
[11:23] <Bilford> Dapper Darke CD downloaded
[11:23] <needlez> no, itis still showing them in groups....
[11:23] <BlueEagle> calgar: Well it might be the nameserver over at your ISP that is the problem. :)
[11:23] <Calgar> frfx: abiword
[11:23] <zcat[1] > callie: that might be good.. if the controller is dead you can get an identical drive and swap the boards...
[11:23] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: sure - just go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to argue the point
[11:23] <simp> how to connect into a windows machine for file/printer sharing in ubuntu(gnome)
[11:23] <delmar> Does anyone here know what I need to do to make my scanner usable with this damn OS... if its not one thing its another.. next it will be that my webcam wont work... ... but id like to get my scanner working .. anyone help with that?
[11:23] <callie> Abountu, originally it was listed as hdd1
[11:23] <Calgar> BlueEagle: well, they are tiscali, and i ahve been wanting to change provider for some time........
[11:23] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: I prefer not to silence people :)
[11:24] <frfx> Calgar: thanks
[11:24] <siccness> thoreauputic: Sorry to ask again, but do you know how to check what version of gamin is running?
[11:24] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: go and actually look at that howto, not imagine getting a 4 year old kid to follow it
[11:24] <Calgar> frfx: np
[11:24] <linux_galore> now*
[11:24] <zcat[1] > callie: actually before you get too far; have you done anything inside your computer lately/ did you check that the drive cable hasn't been pulled up one end or the other?
[11:24] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: now understand why I think the guy just left and wont use Linux for at least a few months
[11:25] <zcat[1] > linux_galore: shut. up.
[11:25] <simp> propably few years
[11:25] <simp> :P
[11:25] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: I understnad your point - I just don't want #ubuntu to be a place for people to argue - that's why -offtopic exists
[11:25] <callie> zcat[1] , i've attatched the drive to a brand new computer, brand new as in 3 days old
[11:25] <lss> Hi there... I used QTParted to resize my windows ntfs partition and it totally formatted it (it sucks, but not a huge biggie).. So, now I have all this freespace, I'm trying to make use of it. Sadly it's under as "hidden" and I cannot make any partition over it!.. Is there a better partition manager (with an interface)...? Thanks
[11:25] <Trayhoper> SLM!
[11:25] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: I'm not taking sides ;)
[11:25] <siccness> Hm :|
[11:25] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: not arguing stating a "fact" he's gone bye bye back to windows land
[11:26] <simp> how to connect into a windows machine for file/printer sharing in ubuntu(gnome)
[11:26] <Jago> thoreauputic: silencing people whose opinions you disagree with is not a way to convince others the validness of your opinion, pointing to an alternate channel is wise tho :)
[11:26] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: whatver
[11:26] <Trayhoper> im don't connect to internet (linux)(i dont speak english:D)
[11:26] <popey> linux_galore: if you don't like the how-to, edit it, it *is* a wiki.
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Jago: I have no opinion on this as such - I just want people to argue elsewhere
[11:26] <thoreauputic> this is a help channel
[11:26] <frfx> Calgar: abiword is great.but how do i make abiword my default .doc writer?
[11:26] <zcat[1] > callie: drives can fail basically three ways; filesystem corruption, media damage, or the onboard controller. If the drive isn't being shown in lshw then you probably have a faulty controller
[11:26] <Trayhoper> Hee siz konuun konuun anlyorum ben sizi:D
[11:27] <serp> my system stops at "Starting hotplug subsystem..." for about 15 seconds. how do I make this faster?
[11:27] <callie> Trayhoper, what language do you speak?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Jago: you notice I haven't silenced anyone
[11:27] <popey> simp, you need to install samba if it's not already installed
[11:27] <Calgar> frfx: system -> preferences -> preferred aplications
[11:27] <simp> ok popey where can i get samba
[11:27] <simp> ?
[11:27] <dli> serp, I suppose you can stop hotplug from being run at booting
[11:27] <popey> simp: synaptic package manager
[11:28] <serp> dli: is it supposed to take so long to start?
[11:28] <zcat[1] > callie: I mean the circuit board on the drive itself, not the mobo.
[11:28] <BlueEagle> callie: He's from Turkey appearantly.
[11:28] <simp> ok
[11:28] <simp> popey, thank you i'l have a try
[11:28] <callie> zcat[1] , would the bios still detect the drive if the controller was faulty?
[11:28] <frfx> Calgar: there i can only select a webbrowser, a mail reader and a terminal.no .doc reader
[11:28] <Bilford> now burning Dapper CD
[11:28] <siccness> Nevermind, worked it out. Found out what version I was running looking at Synaptic :)
[11:28] <popey> callie: depends how faulty it is
[11:29] <zcat[1] > callie: probably not.. or it might show 'funny numbers' ..
[11:29] <zcat[1] > callie: is the bios seeing the drive?
[11:29] <callie> zcat[1] , it is indeed
[11:30] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell bilford about dapper
[11:30] <BlueEagle> callie: Have you tried booting from a CD with the drive connected?
[11:30] <Calgar> whats a good touch typing tutor for linux?
[11:31] <callie> BlueEagle, using a live cd you mean?
[11:31] <zcat[1] > ok.. next step is get something like Ultimate Boot and run drive diagnostics.. you should get a good idea from that if the problem is the controller or the media.. if the drive passes diagnostics then the problem is the filesystem.
[11:31] <BlueEagle> callie: Yes.
[11:31] <papatxo> Cmo se puede cofigurar un escaner?
[11:31] <callie> BlueEagle, no but that sounds like a great idea
[11:31] <popey> Calgar: gtypist or tuxtype
[11:31] <BlueEagle> callie: Because I think the problem might be that your grub is confused by alteration of the drivenumbers when you connect this drive.
[11:31] <thoreauputic> !es
[11:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:31] <callie> i think i will try that now BlueEagle
[11:32] <serp> how do I play wmv files on ubuntu?
[11:32] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell serp about restricted
[11:32] <popey> serp: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:32] <papatxo> Lo siento, Adios.
[11:32] <KenSentMe> i've just installed samba on my server system and created a share with the following options: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13983. When i create a dir it still has 0755 in stead of 0770. How come?
[11:32] <serp> well the url they refer to doesnt exist
[11:33] <callie> well, thanks for the info guys, i'll pop back soon and let you know how i get on, thanks to BlueEagle , Abountu , and popey
[11:33] <zcat[1] > !restricted
[11:33] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:33] <callie> oh and zcat[1]  too!
[11:33] <popey> serp: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats that exists
[11:33] <serp> wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:33] <serp> that url doesnt exist
[11:34] <popey> serp: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ look in there
[11:34] <zcat[1] > !source-o-matic
[11:34] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:34] <dominik_> \who
[11:34] <popey> serp: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb exists
[11:34] <zcat[1] > source-o-matic has a couple of repos that will let you apt-get what you want
[11:34] <serp> popey: can't open that either
[11:34] <joe_alf> what should i put on root() in grub configuration. i have multiple os. should it be the root for that os. other linux is on root(hd1, 4) and the other one is on root(hd1, 1) and the other is on root(hd1, 0). suse, fedora, ubuntu respectively
[11:34] <popey> serp: i am looking at the page right now
[11:34] <popey> serp: in firefox
[11:34] <serp> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at ftp.nerim.net.
[11:35] <popey> serp: do you use a proxy server to connect to the internet?
[11:35] <serp> no
[11:35] <KenSentMe> serp: open the url in your browser
[11:35] <serp> KenSentMe: I can't..
[11:35] <KenSentMe> serp: me neither i see
[11:36] <popey> serp: ftp://62.4.17.14/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ how about that?
[11:36] <KenSentMe> serp: copy the url and open it in the address bar of your browser
[11:36] <serp> popey: nope
[11:36] <s|k> how do I check an iso via asc ?
[11:36] <serp> I guess my isp is broken then
[11:37] <popey> serp: could be i guess
[11:37] <KenSentMe> have u tried copying the url in your browser?
[11:37] <popey> KenSentMe: yes, he has
[11:38] <zcat[1] > serp: mtr 62.4.17.14   perhaps?
[11:38] <serp> mtr?
[11:39] <KenSentMe> popey: when i click right mouse on the url in Xchat and choose open link in browser it doens't work, but when i manually copy the url it opens
[11:39] <Calgar> how do i install gtypist?
[11:39] <Calgar> please
[11:39] <zcat[1] > It'll show how/if your ISP is reaching that site..
[11:39] <serp> zsh: command not found: mtr
[11:39] <popey> serp I have mirrored it here http://bishop.popey.com/debs/
[11:39] <zcat[1] > hmmm apt-get install mtr then
[11:39] <s|k> how do I do a checksum?
[11:39] <serp> popey: thanks!
[11:39] <popey> s|k: md5sums
[11:39] <s|k> thanks
[11:40] <KenSentMe> Calgar: sudo apt-get install gtypist
[11:40] <serp> I think I broke my pf.conf
[11:40] <serp> I can't access any ftp sites
[11:40] <KenSentMe> Calgar: or use Synaptic
[11:41] <Guest_105> hi
[11:41] <popey> hello Guest_105
[11:41] <Guest_105> I've got a stuped question ....
[11:42] <Calgar> KenSentMe: what section is it under?
[11:42] <CoR> hi
[11:42] <Guest_105> how to install Eciadsl ?
[11:42] <KenSentMe> Calgar: just search for gtypist
[11:42] <Guest_105> I'm very new to linux ..
[11:42] <popey> Guest_105: sudo apt-get install eciadsl
[11:43] <frfx> how do i change abiword as default .doc writer instead of openofficewriter?
[11:43] <Calgar> frfx: system -> prefrances -> preferred aplications
[11:44] <popey> Calgar: that has no option for word processor here..?
[11:44] <Calgar> oh
[11:44] <callie> well, im in knoppix now and im copying the data across to my new sata drive as we speak
[11:44] <frfx> popey: you are right
[11:44] <KenSentMe> how do i make sure that when i create a file/folder in a windows share in samba it's created under a certain user groep?
[11:45] <callie> thanks to you all!
[11:45] <frfx> popey: maybe you know how?
[11:45] <anto9us> frfx, right click the document, properties, open with
[11:45] <popey> frfx, I don't I'm afraid, sorry
[11:45] <callie> BlueEagle, you're idea is working a treat!
[11:46] <callie> s/you're/your
[11:46] <Calgar> frfx: sorry, i have only been using linux for less than a day, it was just a guess
[11:47] <frfx> Calgar: no sorry, thanks for your help
[11:47] <frfx> anto9us: no other solution? i want that every document opens with abiword
[11:48] <anto9us> frfx, that will set for all documents of that type
[11:48] <popey> frfx: i think you can make it the default in there too
[11:48] <Akuma_> im trying to switch from windows to ubuntu, but im having a hard time finding all the drivers i need. is there any 'central' place where i could look that up? googling every device i have takes foreever
[11:48] <anto9us> frfx, you selected properties?
[11:48] <oelewapperke> Akuma_: what drivers do you need ?
[11:49] <oelewapperke> linux does not require you to install any drivers in normal cases
[11:49] <Akuma_> right now im mostly concerned about my graphics card, SiS M760GX, and my wireless usb, Netgear WG111
[11:50] <frfx> anto9us: yep it works, thanks a lot
[11:50] <anto9us> frfx, I know, you're welcome :)
[11:50] <Akuma_> i read about ndiswrapper for my wireless device, but cant find any real answer for the graphics card
[11:50] <Calgar> hmm, help please, i just installed the "junior-typing" meta package, but nothing has shown up in my applications menu?
[11:50] <delmar> ok there it is
[11:50] <delmar> ive tried everything
[11:50] <Akuma_> oelewapperke: why's that? wrappers?
[11:51] <frfx> Akuma_: do you have the windows drivers for your wireless card?
[11:51] <Akuma_> i do
[11:51] <popey> delmar: what scanner?
[11:51] <popey> Akuma_: what video card?
[11:51] <delmar> popey, microtek scanmaker 3800 series
[11:52] <frfx> Akuma_: install ndiswrapper and follow the steps of the tutorial
[11:52] <Akuma_> .. but i heard ndiswrapper was not very stable. ... does that mean it disconnects once a month, or crashes the computer every hour?
[11:52] <Akuma_> popey: video card: SiS M760GX
[11:52] <BlueEagle> callie: Well, there you go. :)
[11:52] <kubus> Moin
[11:52] <frfx> Akuma_: no..i work with ndiswrapper and it works great
[11:53] <Calgar> hmm, help please, i just installed the "junior-typing" meta package, but nothing has shown up in my applications menu?
[11:53] <zcat[1] > My experience ndiswrappers makes the computer crash almost immediately _and_ doesn't work.. ymmv :)
[11:53] <HIGH-FREQ> sup yall...has anyone encountered an error with prism2_config() failed    on bootup ....i see that in dmesg ...i have a XI-325 prism2.5 wireless b pcmcia card....and i don't know how to fix this error...
[11:53] <Akuma_> frfx: i'll try it then. thanks
[11:53] <Akuma_> zcat[1] : ok .. i'll reconsider then ;)
[11:53] <delmar> im going to bed. night all
[11:54] <frfx> Akuma_: here it works..just try..
[11:54] <HIGH-FREQ> nite del
[11:54] <zcat[1] > I ended up giving that card to a windows user and getting one that was supported by open source drivers.. but ndis must work OK for some people or nobody would use it..
[11:55] <frfx> Akuma_: if you don't try it won't work ;)
[11:55] <Akuma_> but, is there a usual way to look up drivers? or does everyone just google everything?
[11:55] <YoussefAssad> I had mixed ndis experiences. Sometimes, modprobing it would freeze the box, but a year or so back it ran fine. Thank god for madwifi :)
[11:55] <frfx> Akuma_: you said you have the windows drivers?
[11:55] <Akuma_> frfx: true. but i also need a long time to format, install two operating systems, etc etc. so if i know something wont work at all, i'd rather wait till i get a new computer
[11:55] <zcat[1] > google 'ubuntu breezy <hardware>' and usually you'll find something
[11:56] <Akuma_> frfx: i do
[11:56] <frfx> Akuma_: so you don't have ubuntu now?
[11:56] <zcat[1] > yes; most of use google everything and only ask here when we get really stuck..
[11:56] <Akuma_> .... is there an ndiswrapper equivalent for graphics cards maybe?
[11:57] <popey> Akuma_: no, there's not
[11:57] <Abountu> I used to use a console based web browser, Lynx, I can't see it in synaptic, anyone knows how to install it for ubuntu?
[11:57] <frfx> Abountu: sudo apt-get install lynx
[11:57] <Akuma_> i do .. i downloaded them ... the live CD works ok .. but no wireless internet and the resulution doesnt go as high as i'd like it to
[11:57] <callie> frfx, it appears its not in his repo
[11:58] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the name the gtk 2.2.0 packages and the development files?
[11:58] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not found it in packages
[11:58] <zcat[1] > Akuma_: If you're likely to get a new computer soon, hold off and make sure you buy hardware that you know in advance will be well supported..
[11:58] <Richardpat> Greetings to all, anyone about with experience running quake 4 on linux ?
[11:59] <basti`DND> Running fine on my system, Richardpat
[11:59] <zcat[1] > then linux will go much better. Trying to get badly supported hardware working is not a fun experience
[11:59] <Akuma_> zcat[1] : i definatly will. im not sure i'll get it 'soon' though. so i'd rather switch now if possible. vista scares the shit out of me
[11:59] <frfx> Akuma_: here the live cd also works but also no internet because the live cd doesnt include ndiswrapper
[11:59] <callie> Akuma_, i spent well over a week researching my new computer and it was time well spent in the end, i LOVE my new system
[11:59] <Richardpat> basti`DND:  The problem on mine is it appears to startup, but the screen is blank and the sound appears to be corrupt
[11:59] <popey> callie: good point, check before you buy is a great idea
[12:00] <basti`DND> R u running ATi or nVidia, Richardpat?
[12:00] <Richardpat> Ati
[12:00] <Richardpat> 9800 pro
[12:00] <Richardpat> Direct rendering appears to be working
[12:00] <basti`DND> Don't have experience with ATI. ;> Sorry
[12:00] <Akuma_> are mainstream computers, say Dell, usually better supported?
[12:00] <popey> Akuma_: I have had very few problems with recent dells on linux
[12:01] <callie> popey, only learnt by having had far too many problems caused by hardware that either wasnt supported or had very poor support
[12:01] <popey> this dell xps gen 2 is lovely :)
[12:01] <zcat[1] > I have ati mobility here.. no 3d for me :(  .. nvidia on the desktop machine.. I should get off here and play with compiz some more. quinn gave me some good info before..
[12:01] <callie> Akuma_, self build is the best way to get what you want and make sure you have a completely supported system
[12:01] <frfx> Akuma_: older systems are better supported, but you want a new computer.. but you can google on "linux YourNewComputer"
[12:01] <KenSentMe> Richardpat: I've used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and then installed Q4. Works fine here
[12:02] <Richardpat> KenSentMe: I followed the same howto
[12:02] <popey> frfx: not always, all the hardware in this laptop is supported and it's under a year old (well, all execpt the silly LEDs)
[12:03] <frfx> popey: than you are lucky :)
[12:03] <popey> i researched it :)
[12:03] <frfx> Akuma_: are you going to buy a laptop?
[12:03] <mr_bob> Hello
[12:04] <Agent_bob> howdy
[12:04] <mr_bob>  /message l'm looking for ubuntu french user...
[12:04] <frfx> !fr
[12:04] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:05] <Akuma_> frfx: im trying to. but its pretty complicated
[12:05] <Agent_bob> "french user" ???   one that uses the french ?
[12:05] <Akuma_> frfx: i wanna get it from US. much cheaper
[12:05] <mr_bob> Tanx I'm jump to #kubuntu-fr
[12:06] <frfx> Akuma_: where do you live? if you want to buy a laptop: check http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[12:06] <basti`DND> Ubuntu: If i add the debian unstable and / or testing packages to my apt-sources, i get only errors at synaptic. Anybody here, who got this error too?
[12:07] <Agent_bob> basti`DND ubuntu is NOT debian.  it is based on debian, there is a differance
[12:08] <zcat[1] > adding debian repos will likely break ubuntu is strange and unpredictable ways.. don't do it. If you do do it, don't expect us to fix it.
[12:08] <basti`DND> Yeah, for sure i know, but i don't ever get problems with using debian-packages at ubuntu
[12:08] <Calgar> can anyone help? i installed the "junior-typing" meta package, but none of it has shown up in the menus
[12:08] <Calgar> please
[12:09] <zcat[1] > basti`DND: you haven't had any problems "yet" ...
[12:09] <basti`DND> Okay. i go for ubuntu-mirros. Thx guys ;>
[12:10] <Agent_bob> hmmm let me see here?  "<basti`DND> Ubuntu: If i add the debian unstable ... i get only errors at synaptic."  &  "<basti`DND> Yeah, for sure i know, but i don't ever get problems with using debian-packages at ubuntu"    sounds like a contradiction to me.
[12:10] <frfx> Calgar: i have sometimes the same problem.try this command: sudo junior-typing
[12:10] <tbf> does dapper have drivers for the intel pro/wireless 3945, or do i have to compile them by hand?
[12:10] <dli> Agent_bob, hehe
[12:10] <tbf> and why does dapper detect only one cpu on my core duo?
[12:10] <Ayabara> I have problems with lineakd and got a mail from the developer saying "you must be running XWindows (Gnome or KDE or some other window manager is fine)". This is running in Ubuntu as default, isn't it?
[12:10] <Calgar> frfx: command not found.......
[12:10] <zcat[1] > tbf: add an SMP kernel
[12:10] <Jimmey__> tbf, you need to install an SMP kernel
[12:11] <dli> tbf, install an SMP kernel (use synaptic)
[12:11] <Jimmey__> tbf, and try in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[12:11] <Jimmey__> I beat you all too it!
[12:11] <Jimmey__> :P
[12:11] <Jimmey__> Ayabara, Gnome's Ubuntu's default :P
[12:12] <Agent_bob> Ayabara ubuntu by default runs gnome     yes
[12:12] <verdee> hi guys
[12:12] <Jimmey__> Hello
[12:13] <callie> hey
[12:13] <Ayabara> that's what I thought.. anyone here using lineakd? I have problems getting it to work
[12:13] <Jimmey__> Ayabara, what problems?
[12:13] <popey> Ayabara: i ran it for a while, but don't need to now
[12:13] <basti`DND> Agent_bob, this was _THE_ first time, i get errors. :)
[12:13] <frfx> Calgar: you are sure it is correctly installed?
[12:13] <Agent_bob> basti`DND oh ok  :)
[12:14] <Ayabara> Jimmey__, popey: I have a Dell Inspiron laptop with media keys. I try to fix it so that the volume buttons control Headphone rather than Master volume.
[12:14] <Calgar> frfx: yes, i can launch gtypist and other components from terminal
[12:14] <Jimmey__> Ayabara, oh.
[12:14] <popey> Ayabara: yeah, i have a dell too
[12:14] <popey> Ayabara: i used lineakd until dapper, now the media keys just work
[12:14] <popey> Ayabara: can you wait 2 weeks until dapper is out ;)
[12:15] <Ayabara> popey: they work for me too ( I run dapper ), but the volume buttons only control Master volume even if headphones are plugged in
[12:15] <popey> Ayabara: I don't think dapper uses lineakd by default, but I guess you could
[12:15] <Agent_bob> anyone know how tee pipes or redirects it's output ?
[12:17] <Agent_bob> eeek i coded mod for at least 100x? it's output is horid at 80x?
[12:17] <pw1> Is there an equivalent for Dapper of the Hoary package "automatix"?
[12:17] <ESPOiG> neone played Oblivion??
[12:17] <zcat[1] > !automatix
[12:17] <callie> ALL FILES TRANSFERED
[12:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[12:17] <Jimmey__> pw1, I'm sure there is
[12:18] <Agent_bob> !easyubuntu
[12:18] <WarOfAttrition> I'm getting this error when trying to install things with apt-get "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
[12:18] <WarOfAttrition>  field name `lesystem' must be followed by colon
[12:18] <WarOfAttrition> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[12:18] <WarOfAttrition> " what does this mean and how can I fix it?
[12:18] <Ayabara> popey: have you got the media buttons controlling headphone volume?
[12:18] <verdee> grub problem: i installed ubuntu in a pc, after i added a new hd with windows. I have tried to fix menu.lst and device.map but it doesn't, any idea?
[12:18] <callie> bbl
[12:18] <Agent_bob> that info node is turncated
[12:18] <Ayabara> anyone know of an app to join avi and mpeg files?
[12:19] <popey> Ayabara: avidemux?
[12:19] <popey> Ayabara: no, my media buttons control the master volume
[12:19] <popey> Ayabara: not tried to change it
[12:19] <Agent_bob> !no easyubuntu is
[12:19] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Agent_bob
[12:19] <verdee> !easyubuntu
[12:20] <Ayabara> popey: ok. guess I'll start using the volume controls on my Sennheiser headphones instead :-)
[12:20] <dreambox> guyz how can i install naslite on ubuntu
[12:20] <popey> \o/ sennheiser
[12:20] <Agent_bob> !no easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[12:20] <ubotu> Agent_bob: okay
[12:20] <pw1> Easyubuntu. That's the feller. Cheers.
[12:20] <pw1> Running it now.
[12:20] <pw1> Thanks muchly!
[12:21] <Agent_bob> !easyubuntu
[12:21] <ubotu> from memory, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[12:21] <alapzaj[AWAY] > How can i terminate a pts connection?Is not a ssh connect, i logged is via ssh and su -username but i don't use logout so, when i type users their are 2 user i and the another!
[12:21] <megaman123> hey all :) how do i compile a Makefile file ???
[12:22] <HIGH-FREQ> Alapzaj_: what bout  exit  command
[12:22] <verdee> megaman123, you are installing from the source?
[12:22] <Calgar> can anyone help please, i installed the "junior-typing" meta package, but none of it shows up in the menus
[12:22] <frfx> alapzaj: control plus c maybe?
[12:22] <alapzaj[AWAY] > don't work
[12:22] <megaman123> verdee: downloaded a plugin
[12:23] <HIGH-FREQ> Alapzaj_: u can always do     ps aux    and kill the process
[12:23] <BlueEagle> quanta keeps quitting on me with the error "quanta: Fatal IO error: client killed". Anyone know how I can get a more useful errormessage or fix this?
[12:23] <dreambox> how to remove the program which i dont need it
[12:23] <Agent_bob> alapzaj[AWAY]  ps it or lsof it and see if there is a connection.  it's probably just an un-cleaned /var/log/wtmp
[12:23] <verdee> megaman123, which plugin?
[12:23] <alapzaj[AWAY] > So, I logged in via ssh and su username(because this user has no ssh)and i lost my internet connection so i can't do exit or ctrl d
[12:23] <HIGH-FREQ> dreambox:  apt-get remove <pkg-name>
[12:24] <popey> Calgar: junior_typist is a meta package, it actually installs gtypist
[12:24] <GTroy> is tseliot in here?
[12:24] <alapzaj[AWAY] > i kill all ps -aux procces
[12:25] <soaz> hi
[12:25] <megaman123> channelscan for vdr (DVB)
[12:25] <Agent_bob> alapzaj[AWAY]  kill [sig]  <pid>
[12:25] <alapzaj[AWAY] > with the "virtual" username
[12:25] <Calgar> popey: i know but i cant find any of the programs its supposed to install
[12:25] <thoreauputic> GTroy: no, he's talking to ezra pound ( j/k)
[12:25] <popey> Calgar: Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal
[12:25] <HIGH-FREQ> Alapzaj_: so u have 2 users on...one is u and the other is ????   and u want to kill one of the tty's?
[12:25] <popey> Calgar: then type gtypist
[12:25] <alapzaj[AWAY] > i and server1
[12:25] <GTroy> thoreauputic, can you then help me get glx working?
[12:25] <dreambox> HIGH-FREQ how can control my ubuntu from other computer same as remote connection in win xp
[12:25] <alapzaj[AWAY] > this is an account without ssh
[12:26] <Calgar> popey: i know! but i dont want to have to run all of them from the console every time!
[12:26] <thoreauputic> GTroy: I know nothing about glx , sorry
[12:26] <alapzaj[AWAY] > so when i start 1 server i log into my system and su username
[12:26] <Agent_bob> alapzaj[AWAY]  if you are going to kill all ps -A x   easy way is   sudo kill -9 -1    but i hope you know what you are doing......
[12:26] <alapzaj[AWAY] > su server
[12:26] <GTroy> thoreauputic, can you recommend anyone?
[12:26] <popey> Calgar: install smeg the menu editor then you can add it to the menu yourself?
[12:26] <thoreauputic> GTroy: try the users mailing list maybe?
[12:27] <GTroy> !users mailing list
[12:27] <ubotu> GTroy: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:27] <thoreauputic> GTroy: pretty high traffic and lots of cluesful subscribers
[12:27] <alapzaj[AWAY] > Agent_bob: I don't want to kill all process, I want to terminate server(username) pts connection
[12:27] <HIGH-FREQ> dreambox: use winvnc or somethin like it....or putty for ssh or somethin
[12:27] <alapzaj[AWAY] > this is alll
[12:27] <verdee> (second attempt) grub problem: i installed ubuntu in a pc, after i added a new hd with windows. I have tried to fix menu.lst and device.map but it doesn't, any idea?
[12:27] <Calgar> popey: it comes installed, and i know i can do that, but i dont know where to find the icon ect
[12:27] <basti`DND> Ubuntu: I need "libc6 2.3.6-6" for new enlightenment-packages. But the Package are only available at debian unstable & testing. What can i do now?
[12:27] <frfx> Calgar: you don't need to install anything i think.just right click on applications and choose edit or something like that
[12:28] <popey> Calgar: there is no icon
[12:28] <thoreauputic> GTroy: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/lists
[12:28] <HIGH-FREQ> dreambox: there's other programs out there that are more gui ....but i am not sure what they are
[12:28] <GTroy> ok
[12:28] <Calgar> popey: those programs have no icons, ok
[12:29] <dreambox> HIGH-FREQ there is a way of useing fix ip
[12:29] <Nameeater> verdee: do you know the /dev/xxx that the old hdd shows up as now?
[12:30] <HIGH-FREQ> dreambox: u mean a static ip?
[12:30] <pakage> Heya, no matter what I try I can't mount my fat32 drive for read access.. I'm using the fstab... I've got umask=000 but that's not working
[12:30] <dreambox> wwinvnc is good for now
[12:30] <popey> Nameeater: df will tell you
[12:30] <dreambox> yes
[12:30] <Agent_bob> alapzaj[AWAY]  we told you,  use ps   and  then kill the pid    i also told you that it may not be a connection anymore. only an "un-clean /var/log/wtmp file" meaning that there is no one there but that file still says there is.  it is cleaned at boot time.  and the log-in/out process writes to it.  who and w read from it.
[12:30] <HIGH-FREQ> ya put that box as static ip
[12:30] <Nameeater> popey: his grub is broken as he has installed a new hdd, df isnt very helpful atm
[12:30] <HIGH-FREQ> i have an older pcmcia b card....its a XI-325 and it uses the prism2.5  but when i do dmesg it says   prism2_config() failed  and if i can make that work i think i'll get the wlan0
[12:30] <popey> ahh
[12:31] <popey> sorry, didn't follow
[12:31] <Nameeater> np ;)
[12:31] <HIGH-FREQ> anyone guru in pcmcia?
[12:31] <verdee> Nameeater, in ubuntu is in /dev/hda4, win in /dev/hdb1
[12:31] <Nameeater> pakage: whats the whole fstab line for the fat32 ?
[12:31] <Agent_bob> pc cards   heh not me.
[12:31] <Skeletonix> Hi..I tryed install flash player on Dapper and :
[12:31] <Skeletonix> Hi I tryed install flash player on Dapper and :
[12:31] <Skeletonix> http://download.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[12:31] <Kezzer> it's the option to mount the drive or not on startup Nameeater
[12:31] <Kezzer> I believe
[12:32] <Skeletonix> sorry this is it :
[12:32] <Skeletonix> sudo update-flashplugin
[12:32] <Skeletonix> installation failed
[12:32] <Stormx2> !flash
[12:32] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:32] <d> !dma
[12:32] <Kezzer> I've never had issues with flash
[12:32] <Nameeater> Kezzer: never heard of that :o
[12:32] <_harm> Does anyone know a linux distro which is much like the mac-mini FRONTROW option?
[12:32] <Nameeater> verdee: does ubuntu boot?
[12:32] <kulkaka> I have a ntfs partion with a lock on it and I cant access it
[12:32] <Kezzer> Skeletonix: have you installed the fonts?
[12:33] <Agent_bob> Kezzer me either.....  but i never use it so....
[12:33] <GTroy> anyone good with glx??
[12:33] <kulkaka> I asked here yesterday and you gave me a command that I wrote in the terminal
[12:33] <kulkaka> and then it worked
[12:33] <kulkaka> stupid me didn't write it down
[12:33] <Skeletonix> Kezzer: which fonts..
[12:33] <tbf> zcat[1] , jimMmy__: ok, thanks
[12:33] <Kezzer> Skeletonix: if you read the flash player installer then you'd know
[12:33] <kulkaka> when I open it it's empty
[12:33] <Skeletonix> Kezzer: dejavu and free-fonts
[12:33] <Kezzer> read the instructions upon installation and you'll see it requires certain fonts which are available via apt-get
[12:33] <HIGH-FREQ> kulkaka: u trying to mount it u mean?
[12:33] <mikk0> ident
[12:34] <kulkaka> yeah
[12:34] <kulkaka> that's right
[12:34] <GTroy> !glx
[12:34] <ubotu> GTroy: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:34] <GTroy> !dri
[12:34] <ubotu> GTroy: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:34] <Skeletonix> Kezzer: where can I find instruction?
[12:34] <HIGH-FREQ> kulkaka:  mount -t ntfs /dev/??? /mnt/???
[12:34] <Kezzer> Skeletonix: on the flash player installation
[12:34] <HIGH-FREQ> that it?
[12:34] <Skeletonix> Kezzer: on web?
[12:34] <Kezzer> no
[12:35] <Skeletonix> :)
[12:35] <Kezzer> when you do ./install-flashplayer it runs the script yes?
[12:35] <Nameeater> GTroy: ask a question
[12:35] <Skeletonix> yes
[12:35] <Agent_bob> HIGH-FREQ with a umask ando or f/d-masks
[12:35] <kulkaka> what is the name of the 'mac-bar'
[12:35] <Kezzer> when it's running the installation it asks you many many things, i.e. have you installed the fonts
[12:35] <kulkaka> g something
[12:35] <kulkaka> gdesktop
[12:35] <Kezzer> because as far as I know if you haven't installed the fonts then it'll fail on the install
[12:35] <GTroy> I've got a dual head with the latest nvidia driver
[12:35] <kulkaka> but it's not
[12:35] <Kezzer> so rerun the installation and read the instructions
[12:35] <GTroy> and no glx
[12:35] <kulkaka> can't remember
[12:35] <HIGH-FREQ> well try that to mount it
[12:35] <Nameeater> gdesklets ?
[12:35] <kulkaka> you know where all the programs is?
[12:35] <kulkaka> yeah, that's right
[12:35] <Kezzer> then apt-get the fonts required (you may have to enable universe packages)
[12:35] <kulkaka> thx
[12:35] <verdee> Nameeater, yes, it boots, in ubuntuforums.org i read i can redo the "install grub step" with the installation cd, that is right?
[12:35] <Skeletonix> Kezzer: ehr..but I installed it by Synaptic
[12:36] <Kezzer> then do it by hand
[12:36] <Kezzer> if you do it through Synaptic I don't think it'll install the fonts for you
[12:36] <GTroy> nameeater, I've got the nvidia-glx for 7667, but my driver is 8756
[12:36] <kulkaka> now I mounted it
[12:36] <Kezzer> so installation would probably fail
[12:36] <kulkaka> and it says that I don't have permission toview it
[12:36] <kulkaka> *to view
[12:36] <Nameeater> verdee: so ubuntu boots as normal, (I'm guessing your talking to me now on it?) whats the problem then?
[12:36] <Kezzer> mind you, you're using dapper
[12:36] <Kezzer> http://download.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[12:36] <kulkaka> how do I get those permissions?
[12:37] <Kezzer> download, extract, run the ./install thingy
[12:37] <Nameeater> GTroy:have you installed the nvidia released drivers following the HOWTO guide?
[12:37] <Skeletonix> Kezzer: thanx!!
[12:37] <GTroy> nameeater yes
[12:37] <HIGH-FREQ> kulkaka: check the permissions of it...with  ls -la /mnt/????
[12:37] <Nameeater> doesnt that remove old packages?
[12:37] <Agent_bob> kulkaka umount and add -o umask=022  to the mount command
[12:37] <kulkaka> ok, thx
[12:37] <kulkaka> now it's coffee time
[12:38] <Nameeater> !nvidia
[12:38] <HIGH-FREQ> aah umask=022 ....i couldn't remember that either for ntfs ;(
[12:38] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:38] <verdee> Nameeater, sorry i didn't answer. yes it boots normal, but after installing ubuntu i add a hd with win, i have tried to update GRUB but, until now, i can't boot win
[12:38] <HIGH-FREQ> !prism2.5
[12:38] <ubotu> HIGH-FREQ: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:38] <HIGH-FREQ> bah
[12:39] <samuli> verdee, so you have grub working?
[12:39] <joedj> i have .mpg files that mencoder output, that contain video and audio. k3b's DVD video creation screen presents me with an AUDIO_TS section and a VIDEO_TS section. can i just drop these videos in the VIDEO_TS section and assume the audio will work too?
[12:39] <Agent_bob> kulkaka note that mask 022  is read only permission for all but owner/root   ntfs is not really fully supported in linux yet writing to it can cause fs errors.
[12:39] <megaman123> how do i run something as a diffrent user while being root??
[12:40] <verdee> yes samuli
[12:40] <Nameeater> verdee: does gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst show anything about Windows in it?
[12:40] <Agent_bob> !ntfs
[12:40] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:40] <Agent_bob> kulkaka ^
[12:40] <samuli> verdee, so having a working title for windows in grubmenu should be pretty easy.
[12:40] <GTroy> nameeater, I'm looking to play 3d games.....I don't think the wiki helps me
[12:41] <Nameeater> one sec
[12:41] <HIGH-FREQ> any pcmcia guru's here that might know this one.... i have an older pcmcia b card....its a XI-325 and it uses the prism2.5  but when i do dmesg it says   prism2_config() failed  and if i can make that work i think i'll get the wlan0
[12:41] <Nameeater> GTroy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[12:42] <GTroy> ok
[12:42] <verdee> Nameeater, it seems to be ok
[12:42] <Agent_bob> HIGH-FREQ read wiki on wifi ?
[12:42] <Agent_bob> !wifi
[12:42] <ubotu> I heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:42] <Nameeater> verdee: can you paste it on pastebin.com ?
[12:42] <samuli> verdee, paste your windows section of menu.lst to the pastebin.
[12:42] <verdee> samuli, it isn't :)
[12:42] <verdee> ok Nameeater samuli
[12:45] <verdee> Nameeater, samuli: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13985
[12:45] <GTroy> how do you run a script?
[12:45] <samuli> verdee, ok. The problem is that windows ins in secondary harddrive.
[12:45] <Determinist> GTroy, give it excute permissions, then ./scriptname
[12:46] <Skeletonix> GTroy: or sh /path to script/script name
[12:46] <Mum> Hi all..   quick question.. how does one recover a forgotten password?
[12:46] <GTroy> thanks gus
[12:46] <GTroy> guys
[12:46] <xbox_guru> hello, I'm having a problem getting my wireless drivers onto my computer because they are all for windows
[12:46] <Determinist> Mum, you're talking about the sudo password for your machine?
[12:46] <Rondom> Mum: a users' password?
[12:46] <Mum> user password
[12:46] <verdee> samuli, gosh :) it must be in hda?
[12:46] <xbox_guru> I saw prism54 but I don't know if it supports wep
[12:47] <Rondom> Mum: is there any other user, that has the rights to change it?
[12:47] <xbox_guru> or IsIsm
[12:47] <high-freq2> hmm
[12:47] <Mum> no..just me  I only just installed it
[12:47] <samuli> verdee, there's a workaround for it and a pretty simple on.
[12:47] <xbox_guru> http://www.prism54.org/
[12:47] <Determinist> Mum, what Rondom asked... if you cant log into the machine you're kinda nailed lol
[12:47] <Rondom> Mum: but there's also a possibility to change it
[12:47] <samuli> verdee, I'm just checking up on how it was done.
[12:48] <high-freq2> May 14 05:46:39 localhost kernel: [4296010.316000]  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
[12:48] <Mum> well I can't log in cause I can't remember my password  LOL
[12:48] <verdee> samuli, thanks a lot
[12:48] <Rondom> Determinist: there is some possibility with a live-cd, I saw a tutorial some time ago
[12:48] <high-freq2> wifi howto didn't tell me much bout the old prism2.5
[12:48] <xbox_guru> what about lslsm
[12:48] <Mum> wrote it down... threw the paper out    stupid me..
[12:48] <Determinist> Rondom, i am aware of this
[12:48] <rambo3> Mum on other linux you could reset root pasword , but i dont know on ubuntu since it has no root account
[12:48] <high-freq2> i've been googleing this error for few hours now and nada...i've tried everything that they said...and still nada...
[12:49] <xbox_guru> if not then I need help with ndiswrapper
[12:49] <Determinist> Mum, well, you can do this: either reinstall the system if you have 40 spare mins or look online for a tutorial on how to recover passwords
[12:49] <rambo3> just search google for reset or lost root password
[12:49] <xbox_guru> i've read the ndiswrapper page and am a little confused
[12:49] <high-freq2> u mean user password?
[12:49] <Mum> OK  thank you.. thought it might be in wiki somewhere  couldn't find it tho
[12:49] <rambo3> no i sad what i mean
[12:50] <Mum> yes High-freq2.. user password
[12:50] <dli> rambo3, sorry for my english, can you elaborate?
[12:50] <Rondom> Mum: if you choose recovery mode in grub, do you get a command line?
[12:50] <high-freq2> xbox_guru? d/l the windoz driver for your card..and  run ndiswrapper -i your_drivers.inf
[12:50] <Mum> haven't tried that Rondom
[12:50] <high-freq2> then modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:50] <Mum> if i do       I then do what?
[12:51] <xbox_guru> high-freq2: I'm new to linux and just got it yesterday, can you speak english
[12:51] <high-freq2> word
[12:51] <high-freq2> what card do u have?
[12:51] <xbox_guru> wg111v2 usb adapter
[12:51] <livingdaylight> good morning vietnam
[12:51] <high-freq2> yes that u have to use the ndiswrapper
[12:51] <rambo3> since you get logged in safe mod as root(highest admin) anyhow , it should be posible to recover password using standard root pass recovery
[12:51] <high-freq2> there's a howto on that ..lemme pull it up
[12:51] <samuli> verdee, try adding these lines to the menu.lst: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13987
[12:52] <livingdaylight> someone please tell me of a good pastebin?
[12:52] <mephis1987> livingdaylight, hello there from vietnam 2 :d
[12:52] <samuli> it should fool windows thinking it's sitting on the first hd
[12:52] <dli> livingdaylight, pastebin.com
[12:52] <Determinist> livingdaylight, pastebin.com
[12:52] <rambo3> ask ubotu livingdaylight
[12:52] <HIGH-FREQ> xbox_guru:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29
[12:52] <livingdaylight> hehe, mephis, Good Morning!
[12:52] <mephis1987> !pastebin
[12:52] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[12:52] <livingdaylight> dli, thank you
[12:53] <HIGH-FREQ> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:53] <HIGH-FREQ> that one...or just  pastebin.com or somethin
[12:53] <livingdaylight> Determinist and rambo3 thankyou
[12:53] <Determinist> np mate
[12:53] <dreambox> how can i update ubuntu
[12:53] <mephis1987> apt-get update :D
[12:53] <xbox_guru> high-freq: does ndis wrapper support wep
[12:54] <dli> dreambox, use synaptic :)
[12:54] <HIGH-FREQ> yes
[12:54] <dreambox> ping!
[12:54] <xbox_guru> high-freq: it says it needs some package
[12:54] <dreambox> dli: where is that synaptic
[12:55] <livingdaylight> anyone running from chat from Opera?
[12:55] <HIGH-FREQ> ya ...apt-get install  them
[12:55] <xbox_guru> i can't
[12:55] <xbox_guru> I don't have an internet connection
[12:55] <xbox_guru> i'm talking ona different computer
[12:55] <dli> dreambox, System -> Admin -> Package Manager, or something like that
[12:55] <rambo3> livingdaylight: sometimes
[12:55] <Rondom> xbox_guru: what's your problem? I also own an WG111v2
[12:55] <HIGH-FREQ> xbox_guru:  sudo apt-get install pkg_name_here
[12:55] <McNutella> oi oi, whats the cmd for searching for packages again please?
[12:55] <dreambox> thanks bro
[12:55] <livingdaylight> rambo3, its quite different isn't it, first time here
[12:56] <McNutella> apt-?
[12:56] <livingdaylight> rambo3, i like opera, but downloading and opening music or vid files i always end up in trouble. I find Firefox much easier in that respect
[12:56] <xbox_guru> high-freq: I'm on the family computer, mine (the one with ubuntu) has the adapter i'm trying to set up
[12:57] <McNutella> no command to search for applications then ?
[12:57] <livingdaylight> rambo3, is it a matter of configuring opera or is it just not as easy in Linux with opera?
[12:57] <rambo3> livingdaylight: yes , making opera do those things is alot of work
[12:57] <dli> McNutella, sudo apt-cache search foo
[12:57] <HIGH-FREQ> xbox_guru: oh....well u can 'print' that howto off..and goto the other puter
[12:57] <McNutella> dli: thanks
[12:58] <xbox_guru> high-freq: where can I get that package
[12:58] <livingdaylight> rambo3: so, presumably its only alot of work running it with Linux. I want to be able to click on something and my default players automatically open up etc, you know what i mean?
[12:58] <rambo3> livingdaylight: its an linux matter
[12:58] <verdee> samuli, thanks a lot, i will try it later :)
[12:58] <HIGH-FREQ> xbox_guru: first things first...d/l the windows drivers for your card...and then  do  ndiswrapper -i driver_name.inf  ...that'll load it..and then do  modprobe ndiswrapper   now that should put your nic's light on
[12:58] <HIGH-FREQ> xbox_guru: ndiswrapper-utils  but ubuntu installs it by default i think
[12:59] <verdee> i have to go now, thanks again samuli and Nameeater :) bye bye guys
[12:59] <Abountu> I have a problem with openoffice, if I start it from the menu (application->office->OpenOffice.org2 Writer) it gives me an error ("the application cannot be started, An internal error occured" and in the caption it says OpenOffice.org 1.9.129))
[12:59] <xbox_guru> high-frew
[12:59] <valehru> Is there a linux installer for doom 3?
[12:59] <Nameeater> cya
[12:59] <rambo3> livingdaylight: no i dont know how to set it up , i just fixed java in opera . i coulden't get vidios to play
[12:59] <Abountu> it works fine if I double click on a .doc file
[12:59] <xbox_guru> *high-freq: thanks, I'll get the drivers off the cdrom and follow that
[12:59] <McNutella> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://packages.freecontrib.org breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:59] <McNutella> what that mean ?
[12:59] <HIGH-FREQ> xbox_guru: k....but it should have installed automatically
[12:59] <HIGH-FREQ> at least mine did
[12:59] <livingdaylight> rambo3: ahhh....exactly, forgot all about that...that is another problem i have had with opera. How did you fix that. Tell me only if it is easy?
[01:00] <xbox_guru> high-freq: then mabey mine is too
[01:00] <rambo3> yes, i just fallowed instructions on wiki
[01:00] <xbox_guru> brb
[01:00] <livingdaylight> rambo3: vids are one of the things that don't open. No point using opera and then having ot flip over to firefox when i want to open a video or music file
[01:00] <HIGH-FREQ> valehru: yes there's a few installers out there...i think i had a  doom3.sh  file at one time...do a search for that on the web
[01:01] <livingdaylight> rambo3: is there a more appropriate chat room that handles these Opera/LInux issues?
[01:01] <ompaul>  line out in offtopic :)
[01:01] <Abountu> anyone can help with openoffice error plz?
[01:01] <livingdaylight> rambo3: what wiki? or where?
[01:01] <rambo3> you could ask in official opera channel on orc.opera.org
[01:02] <Nameeater> Opera has its own chat room some where, I thought Opera's IRC client has the chatroom there by default
[01:02] <rambo3> *irc
[01:02] <livingdaylight> rambo3: ok, thx
[01:02] <livingdaylight> Nameeater: yes, it does but i set it to freenode because that is where i know #ubuntu can be found
[01:03] <Nameeater> ah, well rambo knew the right place to go anyway ;)
[01:03] <ompaul> Abountu, you have to say what the problem is to the channel so people can figure out if they know the answer
[01:03] <Abountu> ampaul:  I have a problem with openoffice, if I start it from the menu (application->office->OpenOffice.org2 Writer) it gives me an error ("the application cannot be started, An internal error occured" and in the caption it says OpenOffice.org 1.9.129))
[01:04] <Abountu> ampaul: just said it about
[01:04] <Abountu> above
[01:04] <rambo3> livingdaylight: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%29 , just remember to install motifs to get java working
[01:04] <DrNickRiviera> can i deactivate cupsys, seeing as i never print anything, or do i risk breaking something by doing so?
[01:04] <livingdaylight> rambo3: you da man!
[01:04] <livingdaylight> rambo3: thx
[01:05] <ompaul> Abountu, ahh normally if you don't get an answer wait about 10 minutes before asking again because people with answers to your question may not be available
[01:05] <pitti> DrNickRiviera: no problem, just remove the package or remove /etc/rc2.d/S19cupsys
[01:05] <ompaul> Abountu, no idea, the only thing I would do is log out of x and back in with simething liek that
[01:05] <Abountu> ampaul: I already restarted the system...
[01:06] <Gizmo_The_Great> Hi people. Will Ubuntu automatically download and install Gnome 2.14 via the Update Manager or does one have to do it themsevles?
[01:06] <Abountu> ampaul: thanks, I'll try to figure out ..
[01:06] <ompaul> Abountu, I have no ideas sorry
[01:06] <Abountu> ompaul: no prob
[01:07] <DrNickRiviera> pitti: thx
[01:07] <ompaul> Abountu, test it from the command line if its broken check the settings in the meny
[01:08] <rambo3> Abountu: can you drag program from menu to desktop as shortcut and see how its started?
[01:08] <Fee^> mornin'
[01:09] <Fee^> how do you remove the mounted drive icons from the desktop?
[01:09] <McNutella> Fee^: rightclick then unmount is quickest I find
[01:10] <Fee^> silly
[01:10] <Fee^> its not that i don't want the icon
[01:10] <rambo3> Fee^: mount them in /mnt instead of /media
[01:10] <Fee^> i mean the drive
[01:10] <Fee^> just he icon
[01:10] <xbox_guru> high-freq: it said it couldn't load ndiswrapper
[01:10] <Fee^> o rly
[01:10] <McNutella> silly, you should be more specific then :P
[01:10] <Fee^> that's it huh?
[01:10] <McNutella> ye, huh
[01:11] <Abountu> rambo:ompaul:  I have tried to launch it for command line, and got this error:  I have a problem with openoffice, if I start it from the menu (application->office->OpenOffice.org2 Writer) it gives me an error ("the application cannot be started, An internal error occured" and in the caption it says OpenOffice.org 1.9.129))
[01:11] <Abountu> oh sorry
[01:11] <Abountu> I pasted something else
[01:11] <Fee^> i thought it was something i could turn off in configuration editor...
[01:11] <rambo3> yes then new copy/paste linux generation
[01:11] <Fee^> essentially i don't want any desktop icons, ever
[01:12] <BlankMind> !compile
[01:12] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[01:13] <Gizmo_The_Great> Hi people. Will Ubuntu automatically download and install Gnome 2.14 via the Update Manager or does one have to do it themsevles?
[01:13] <HIGH-FREQ> xbox_guru: if u type in  sudo ndiswrapper    what does it say?
[01:13] <samuli> gizmo, it does.
[01:13] <HIGH-FREQ> xbox_guru: if its there it'll spit something out...
[01:13] <BlankMind> I have Ubuntu installed on a disk with 2 partitions NTFS and a linux one. I read Ubuntu can read NTFS. How I see my files of NTFS partitions?
[01:13] <Gizmo_The_Great> samuli, that's what I thought, but it says system up-to-date?
[01:14] <rambo3> BlankMind: rad wiki or ask ubotu
[01:14] <samuli> gizmo, well it's not in the repos then.. If you want 'bleeding edge' use dapper.
[01:14] <BlankMind> !ntfs
[01:14] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:14] <Gizmo_The_Great> samuli, is dapper officially released yet
[01:14] <Gizmo_The_Great> thought it was June
[01:15] <samuli> gizmo, right.
[01:15] <samuli> but it's probably safer bet than trying to update gnome by hand :)
[01:16] <Bilford> I did a fresh install of the new Dapper
[01:16] <Bilford> doing a fresh install is totally different than upgrading
[01:16] <Gizmo_The_Great> samuli, I agree. I'll wait for the official release, then upgrade Breezy to Dapper and hopefully it will all run smoothyl :-)
[01:16] <Morbo> DEATH TO WANKERDOWS
[01:17] <ompaul> !language
[01:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[01:17] <dht-esp> Good morning, I think that I have identified a bug in "login" update version 1:4.0.3-37ubuntu8
[01:18] <rambo3> !bug
[01:18] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[01:18] <dht-esp> it seems that the update can lock all users out of the system by stripping permisions
[01:18] <ompaul> alapzaj[AWAY] , I told you about that yesterday
[01:19] <BlankMind> !ntfs
[01:19] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:19] <Fee^> ok...
[01:19] <Fee^> Apps -> Nautilus -> Desktop
[01:19] <Fee^> Uncheck the option "Volumes Visible"
[01:19] <Fee^> ..that "fixed" my issue
[01:19] <Fee^> Configuration Editor :)
[01:20] <neo911> is there a tool i can use so i can detect if my ports are being scanned? thanks
[01:20] <Fee^> yeah, snort
[01:21] <neo911> can you suggest a good networking tool that detects if my ports are being scanned? thx
[01:21] <ompaul> neo911, sornt
[01:21] <ompaul> neo911, snort  even
[01:21] <neo911> oh snort is the name?
[01:21] <ompaul> neo911, say thanks to Fee^ :)
[01:22] <neo911> thanks fee
[01:22] <neo911> i suppose snort is for ubuntu>
[01:22] <neo911> is there one for windows as well?
[01:22] <thoreauputic> !info snort
[01:22] <ubotu> snort: (Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.3.2-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 382 kB, Installed size: 856 kB
[01:22] <ompaul> neo911, go to ##windows and ask
[01:22] <ompaul> morning thoreauputic :)
[01:22] <thoreauputic> hi ompaul :)
[01:25] <[Leo] > hi
[01:25] <[Leo] > did anyone try to configure-compile tcl 8.5^
[01:25] <[Leo] > ?
[01:26] <BlankMind> !compile
[01:26] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[01:26] <[Leo] > i know hot to compile........
[01:26] <[Leo] > i'd like to know if someone has the same problem
[01:27] <[Leo] > with configure script
[01:28] <mawoo> hi, I get this error when updating : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13990 ; any help pplease ?
[01:28] <beerockxs> I'm havinga problem with alsa, sound played through alsa sounds wrong. it's way too fast, and screechy.
[01:28] <mawoo> sorry, wrong channel (dapper)
[01:29] <coolfrog> I need some help. It doesn't concern ubuntu entirely but here goes...I installed lg-base(linux gazette) and a couple of their issues through synaptic but now i can't find a way to access them. I checked their official site but couldn't find any help. so please help!
[01:29] <siccness> coolfrog: Not sure but you could try locate
[01:29] <szoller> XGL doesnt support Direct Rendering for my Geforce FX 5200. Does this mean, that the card is slower with XGL for example in 3D Games than without XGL? (much slower?)
[01:30] <bostik> hi all
[01:30] <bostik> i have a problem
[01:30] <ompaul> coolfrog, do "sudo updatedb" and then "locate lg | less"
[01:30] <ompaul> !ask
[01:30] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[01:30] <bostik> i recompiled my kernel with 64bit+smp+em46t support
[01:30] <tombs> hi all
[01:30] <BlankMind> How do I edit files in graphic mode that are "read-only"?
[01:31] <xbox_guru> high-freq: when i typed in sudo ndiswrapper, it came up with a bunch of options for "manage ndis drivers"
[01:31] <Fee^> you don't BlankMind
[01:31] <Fee^> chown , then edit
[01:31] <bostik> and now when i try to install quake4 server i get this error
[01:31] <SeriousSven> afternoon, anyone familiar with overclocking nVidia cards in Linux, can't seem to make coolbits work and nvclock doesn't support my card
[01:31] <BlankMind> i need to use command line only? sudo stuff?
[01:31] <bostik> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
[01:31] <bostik> Uncompressing Quake IV..
[01:31] <bostik> ./setup.sh: line 207: /home/b0nga/.setup7465: No such file or directory
[01:31] <bostik> ./setup.sh: line 207: /home/b0nga/.setup7465: No such file or directory
[01:31] <bostik> The setup program seems to have failed on x86_64/glibc-2.0
[01:31] <Boglizk> I'm having lag while watcin movies (any player), are there any processes i can kill ?
[01:31] <bakert> BlankMind, do you know how to use chmod?
[01:32] <BlankMind> don't know what is it :(
[01:32] <bakert> BlankMind, what program is telling you the file is readonly?
[01:32] <bostik> it is something about 64bit
[01:32] <ompaul> bostik, DONT paste in here - it was in that instuction http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  and I have no ideas about quake
[01:32] <BlankMind> i was going to copy some files to /usr/local/
[01:32] <bostik> ompaul: sorry
[01:32] <bostik> :(
[01:32] <ompaul> !tell bostik about chroot
[01:32] <xbox_guru> high-freq: i read up and got the ndis utils .deb file burned onto a cd
[01:32] <ompaul> bostik, read the message from the bot
[01:32] <livingdaylight> where are plugins in Firefox saved?
[01:33] <ompaul> !enter
[01:33] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[01:33] <bakert> BlankMind, and what happened?
[01:33] <blaze> how to install cyr-rfx-koi8-1-1.0.tgz ?
[01:33] <bostik> i tryed with chroot
[01:33] <BlankMind> nothing, i just cannot paste files there (the option is grey)
[01:33] <bostik> but it tells me to use a graphic shell
[01:33] <blaze> it's a packadge of cyrillic fonts i suppose
[01:33] <Ayabara> the hotkeys in vlc doesn't work for me in ubuntu. when I use ctrl+right to timeskip nothing happens. anyone know a solution?
[01:33] <xbox_guru> everyone: if I wanted to install ndiswrapper's utils.deb right from the cd, what directory would I use
[01:33] <SeriousSven> no one familiar with overclocking nvidia based cards?
[01:34] <bakert> BlankMind, oh i see.  OK so start a Terminal with Applications, Accessories, Terminal
[01:34] <bakert> BlankMind, Then use the "cp -i" command to move your files.
[01:34] <siccness> Is Linux Gazette any good?
[01:34] <BlankMind> ah ok, i'll learn this command... does it copy a paste with all subdirectories?
[01:34] <ompaul> blaze, why not install the cyrillic fonts that come with ubuntu
[01:34] <BlankMind> paste = folder sorry
[01:35] <blaze> ok.. how to do that ompaul :)
[01:35] <ompaul> blaze, first give yourself the most of everything
[01:35] <blaze> because i have some cyrillic fonts but.. some programs don't have cyrillic
[01:35] <blaze> :D.. ok.. so this means i have to try myself
[01:35] <Ayabara> should I use the ubuntu dapper build from nightlies.videolan.org?
[01:35] <xbox_guru> hey, anyone, what director would I use to unpackage and install a .deb file directly from the cdrom
[01:35] <xbox_guru> *directory
[01:36] <ompaul> blaze, well no those that don't need to be translated - you should have a look on the wiki about that
[01:36] <ompaul> !tell blaze about repos
[01:36] <bakert> BlankMind, use the -r option to cp to copy all subdirectories too
[01:36] <blaze> i think i've already enabled these
[01:36] <blaze> ompaul,
[01:36] <BlankMind> thank you very much, i'll try it now...
[01:36] <bakert> so "cp -ri /your/folder/* /usr/local/newfolder/"
[01:36] <bakert> BlankMind, ^^^^
[01:37] <Calgar> hi, could anyone tell me if its possible to sync a windows mobile device to linux? and if so, what program do you use?
[01:37] <ompaul> blaze, add  the repos that the bot tells you about and then --- use System Administration Synaptic Package Manager to search for fonts or cry and then install away
[01:37] <blaze> ok.. i'll try to :)
[01:37] <Bilford> Dapper has more programs to choose from in Add/Remove
[01:37] <vik> When I try to boot, the kernel panics with something like: VFS: Could not mount root filesystem on 03:01. Any ideas? It's a newly compiled kernel (2.4.27) and the system was OK on 2.6.10
[01:37] <Most_Wanted> hm
[01:38] <Most_Wanted> (13:37:40)  can't join #ubuntu (auth'ed only (+r))! but i`m in ?
[01:38] <Most_Wanted> rofl
[01:38] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me where plugins are saved in Firefox
[01:38] <ompaul> coolfrog /usr/share/doc/lg
[01:39] <siccness> ompaul: I'll thank you for that as well :P
[01:39] <ompaul> siccness, :)
[01:39] <xbox_guru> does anyone know what directory I would use to unpackage a .deb file right from a cdrom?
[01:39] <siccness> Just installed one of the issues, should be interesting.
[01:39] <ompaul> siccness, remember that is more of a history lesson but methods may have changed substantially from what you see in there
[01:39] <vik> Oh shit maybe it's an initrd thing. The other kernels have initrds. This one doesn't. How does one make an initrd?
[01:39] <ompaul> !tell vik about language
[01:39] <zcat[1] > mkinitrd ?
[01:39] <Fee^> any of you guys figured out how to get faster ripping w/ Wine@DVD Shrink?
[01:40] <siccness> Oh :|
[01:40] <vik> ompaul: sorry; got excited
[01:40] <samuli> Fee^: Is your dma enabled on cdrom?
[01:40] <xbox_guru> high-freq: you there?
[01:40] <siccness> Damn, I don't really wish to learn about the history of linux whatsoever.
[01:40] <ompaul> siccness, this does not devalue them, in fact it explains the reasons why some things are done in particular ways
[01:40] <siccness> Future of it is a different story.
[01:40] <siccness> Ahh that's important, ompaul.
[01:41] <zcat[1] > wouldn't something native like k9copy be better?
[01:41] <ompaul> vik, I have mine auto replace as macros :)
[01:42] <blaze> ompaul, i've selected almost all of xfonts that have "koi" in the name :D
[01:42] <blaze> i hope that now it'll all be ok with cyrillic :D
[01:42] <zcat[1] > almost all? you missed some?
[01:42] <ompaul> blaze, I am no font expert, why not join your national channel - and get into translation :)
[01:43] <AlmtyBob> is there a line count command?
[01:43] <blaze> :D i like it here, because it's in english.. it's somekind of a training for me :-P
[01:43] <zcat[1] > AlmtyBob: wc -l
[01:43] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, the qestion is what is wc -l
[01:43] <AlmtyBob> thanks
[01:44] <cjs> hello
[01:44] <blaze> hello lanselot =D
[01:45] <HIGH-FREQ> linux-wlan-ng firmware drivers area already in the kernel as  prism2_cs  for the one i need....well i load that and nada...and i have both power light and link light which is constant on...so its gotta be doin somethin.but i'm not gettin a friggin wlan0 or wifi0 or nuttin..can anyone help with old pcmcia XI-325 prism2.5 ...i'm gettin error in dmesg   prism2_conf() failed   ....so if anyone that has experience in this prism2 failur
[01:45] <HIGH-FREQ> e plz help ;(
[01:45] <AlmtyBob> is there an easy way to add a tab in front of every line of a text file?
[01:46] <cjs> <----- Lunix noob... and i'v only had ubuntu installed for a few hours so that dosent help
[01:46] <zcat[1] > sed -es"/^/      /"g <orig.txt >new.txt    (the big gap is tab)
[01:46] <AlmtyBob> oh cool thanks
[01:47] <AlmtyBob> doh won't let me tab, just dings at me
[01:47] <AlmtyBob> is there an escape code for it or something?
[01:47] <zcat[1] > ohhh, oos. I think \t or something.. man sed ?
[01:47] <livingdaylight> does someone want to tell me where plugins for firefox are saved, please
[01:47] <livingdaylight> thank you
[01:48] <siccness> cjs: I'm a noob too, what's your issue maybe I can assist you on a noob level?
[01:48] <Pixel1983> I think in /home/yourname/.firefox or so
[01:48] <beerockxs> where in gconf do i set keyboard shortcuts to start an app?
[01:48] <neo911> hi is anyone familiar with (udp) port 20128?
[01:48] <livingdaylight> Pixel1983: thank you
[01:48] <neo911> what is it for? thanks
[01:48] <bakert> beerockxs, easier to do it under Preferences, Keyboard Shortcuts ... I think
[01:49] <AlmtyBob> that did it, thanks again zcat[1] 
[01:49] <beerockxs> right bakert, thanks
[01:49] <ompaul> neo911, its not a registered service, install lsof and ask it
[01:49] <ompaul> or iftop
[01:50] <beerockxs> bakert: I can't add custom commands to be run there.
[01:50] <livingdaylight> Pixel1983: nah, not in home directories
[01:50] <Fee^> samuli: yes, dma is enabled
[01:50] <Fee^> for both the mount point and the device node
[01:50] <Fee^> <- un-noob
[01:50] <Pixel1983> Has anyone in here an idea why dapper beta 2 boots correctly except that my crt switches off when entering graphical mode?
[01:51] <Fee^> only thing i just did and haven't verified if it helps, is change the wine OS from win2k to XP
[01:51] <bakert> beerockxs, oh, sorry
[01:51] <samuli> Fee, I just had to ask that :)
[01:51] <BlankMind> !commands
[01:51] <ubotu> [commands]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[01:51] <neo911> ompaul, thx how do i ask lsof? i think i got it installed
[01:51] <zcat[1] > Pixel1983: refresh rate or resolution too high?
[01:51] <samuli> I'm not sure how you enable dma for mount point though.
[01:51] <Pixel1983> libingdaylight, you'll have to enable display of hidden files in nautilus to see folder beginning with a "."
[01:51] <ompaul> neo911, you run the command lsof | grep 20128
[01:51] <msh> evening. anyone know an equiv of windows filemon/osx fs_usage for breezy?  want to see what keeps spinning up disks here...
[01:52] <cjs> not sure if you got my messages siccness, i'v only used IRC a hand full of times
[01:52] <Pixel1983> zcat[1] , I managed to edit xorg.conf to 40-100/60-100, how can I tell x to restart?
[01:52] <neo911> i just did and it didn't output anything
[01:52] <zcat[1] > Pixel1983: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:52] <neo911> oh well thx
[01:53] <Pixel1983> thanks!
[01:53] <zcat[1] > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  might also be useful for you..
[01:54] <valehru> umm...is the 32 bit version of firefox in AMD 64 broken?>
[01:54] <valehru> it was working...now its not
[01:55] <xbox_guru> does ndiswrapper support wep?
[01:55] <BlankMind> I installed built-essential package but the there no command "./configure", what should I do?
[01:55] <AlmtyBob> one more question, how do I output a mysql query to a csv or tab delimited text?
[01:56] <livingdaylight> Okay, i'm begging now. Could someone please tell me where plugins for firefox are saved?
[01:56] <RandolphCarter> AlmtyBob: there's a mysql flag for batch mode, -b or -D I think (check the manpage)
[01:56] <AlmtyBob> ok thanks
[01:57] <frfx> xbox_guru: yes
[01:57] <hajuu> Need something good to use to download porn on ubuntu.. anyone got any ideas? lol
[01:57] <livingdaylight> oh, please someone knows i been asking for half an hour now
[01:57] <ompaul> livingdaylight, there is a file here: .mozilla/firefox which contains a list of plugins
[01:57] <AlmtyBob> livingdaylight: /var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions
[01:57] <livingdaylight> THANK YOU!
[01:57] <AlmtyBob> just go to synaptic package manager, search for fire fox, select it, then Properties
[01:57] <AlmtyBob> and look at installed files
[01:58] <valehru> hajuu, bit torrent,
[01:58] <Pixel1983> livingdaylight, open nautilus and press Ctrl+H, that shows hidden files and folders.
[01:58] <frfx> hajuu: aMule
[01:58] <hajuu> valehru: and where to find torrents? :(
[01:58] <AlmtyBob> or sudo find / -name extensions
[01:58] <BlankMind> Question: I installed built-essential package but the there no command "./configure", what should I do?
[01:58] <xbox_guru> frfx : ok because I'm having trouble getting it all working, I can't seem to get ndiswrapper working right to intall my files
[01:58] <AlmtyBob> there's several extensions dirs actually
[01:59] <frfx> xbox_guru: you can post your trouble here.but i am sure it works with wep
[01:59] <neo911> is it possible to capture packets from to the router when running ethereal from one of the hosts in the lan? thx
[02:00] <HIGH-FREQ> omg this is drivin me crazy
[02:00] <high-freq> prism2_config() failed in dmesg....someone here must have a fix for that....."someoen"
[02:00] <high-freq> lol
[02:01] <Pixel1983> zcat[1] , gdm restart stops but then gives me a "failed" when starting again!?
[02:03] <aeolus> Hi
[02:04] <phanter> hello there. I am trying to install GLX on my Dapper (ATI 9200 mobile; IBM T42 laptop). I am following the guide that is on the Ubuntuforum.org, but it does not work as described. Who is willing to help me?
[02:04] <aeolus> I just edited /etc/samba/smb.conf to reflect my network configuration, how do I reload the Samba service so  it will catch my changes?
[02:05] <high-freq> aeolus: /etc/init.d/samba restart    i think
[02:05] <snowfaked> phanter: i think i didn't have to do anything except change driver from xorg.conf from ati to fglrx
[02:05] <phanter> The forum tells me: "Start gconf-editor and go to "apps/compiz/general/all screens/options"", but there is no section "apps/compiz" in gconf
[02:05] <high-freq> or sudo samba restart
[02:06] <samuli> phanter, what I did with my ati 9200SE.. I just sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and then edit xorg.conf to replace "ati" with "fglrx" and voila. It works.
[02:06] <phanter> snowfaked, I always use the fglrx driver, but there is some other strange problem
[02:06] <samuli> !ati
[02:06] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:06] <aeolus> the first one says "bash: /etc/init.d/samba: No such file or directory", the second: "sudo: samba: command not found"
[02:06] <Pixel1983> hm, has really nobody else had problems with the dapper beta 2 live cd? it worked on my old test pc, but my faster one won't start x
[02:07] <samuli> phanter, in short: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:07] <samuli> :P
[02:07] <Pixel1983> aeolus, sounds like you don't have samba?
[02:07] <aeolus> oh
[02:07] <phanter> my ATI card works and when typing fglrxinfo it does tell me it is ATI and all info there is correct
[02:08] <samuli> phanter, do glxgears -info
[02:08] <Pixel1983> aeolus, try "smb" instead of "samba", just an idea, not sure
[02:08] <samuli> phanter, ignore the wheels, but there's that line "direct rendering: yes"
[02:08] <aeolus> I got it, had to install the Samba packages
[02:09] <high-freq> lol
[02:09] <phanter> there is no line with "direct rendering"
[02:09] <aeolus> The only problem is, my Windows workgroup is WORKGROUP, Ubuntu thinks I want to connect to MSHOME
[02:10] <goonie> hi all
[02:10] <samuli> phanter, oh, I just checked it my self.. there isn't.
[02:10] <Pixel1983> aeolus, I think you can set your workgroup in the network settings.
[02:10] <samuli> phanter, anyways, does the wheels seem to run smoothly?
[02:10] <phanter> it runs smoothly
[02:11] <xbox_guru> high-freq: I can't figure any of this out
[02:11] <high-freq> xbox_guru:  ndiswrapper should be pretty simple....
[02:11] <samuli> phanter, well I think you have direct rendering enabled then.
[02:11] <phanter> samuli, can this driver be the reason that there is no "apps/compiz" in gconf
[02:11] <xbox_guru> high-freq: its not working on my part
[02:11] <high-freq> xbox_guru:  u d/l or have the cd drivers?
[02:11] <aeolus> I didn't see anything in the networking control panel related to that
[02:11] <samuli> phanter, oh. you want compiz. :/
[02:11] <xbox_guru> although it could be the fact that I got ubuntu yesterday
[02:12] <high-freq> xbox_guru:  ndiswrapper-utils  installed?
[02:12] <phanter> samuli, I do not know if I want that, but it tells me to use that in the ubuntuforum (in order to use the GLX stuff)
[02:12] <xbox_guru> that's what i'm trying to do
[02:12] <goonie> I have a question. I'm running Dapper 6.06 and I was wondering if I need to reinstall when the stable version is released or will I be able to upgrade to the stable version via apt?
[02:12] <phanter> goonie,
[02:12] <samuli> phanter, you mean like desktop 'enhancements' ?
[02:12] <high-freq> xbox_guru:  ok do this first....  sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[02:13] <phanter> goonie, updating via apt will do the trick
[02:13] <phanter> samuli, yes... that stuff :-)
[02:13] <samuli> phanter, maybe you should try #ubuntu-xgl :)
[02:13] <xbox_guru> high-freq: don't you need the internet to apt-get
[02:13] <phanter> samuli, that is a good idea, did not know about that
[02:13] <goonie> phanter, thx, I can continue with my customizations then :)
[02:13] <Pixel1983> aeolus, in the secod tab there's a field "Domain name" or so (translation from german), try that for your workgroup name.
[02:13] <phanter> goonie, if you want to reinstall, just backup your home dir and your settings are sage
[02:14] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[02:14] <goonie> phanter, thx
[02:14] <aeolus> Pixel1983: no, it still wants to connect to MSHOME instead of WORKGROUP
[02:14] <high-freq> xbox_guru: oh ya ;(   do u have an ethernet card in there?
[02:14] <megaman123> im trying to run vdr and i get this "baash: /usr/bin/vdr: no such directory" ???/
[02:15] <voraistos> hello folks, i have trouble with my multiverse repository... looks like half the stuff is missing... can smo give his list (repositories) ?
[02:15] <Pixel1983> ompaul, thanks I only knew that channel from the freenode server.
[02:15] <xbox_guru> high freq: yes, but the family computer is downstairs and I don't have a 200ft. ethernet cord
[02:15] <ompaul> Pixel1983, its just general info :)
[02:15] <_harm> Anyone know of a linux-version of apple's FrontRow?
[02:16] <Curtman> I'm having a problem with my mom's PC.  I have snd-ens1371 in /etc/modules, and it's being loaded at boot but her soundcard doesn't work until I rmmod it, and modprobe it again manually.  Anyone know why?
[02:16] <xbox_guru> high-freq: I have the utils.deb file saved in my temp folder
[02:16] <Pixel1983> aeolus, hm, I've no other immediate idea on that problem...
[02:16] <xbox_guru> high-freq:I just don't know how to install them from there
[02:17] <high-freq> xbox_guru: if its deb then just  do  dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:17] <xbox_guru> high-freq: but you need a directory with that too, don't you
[02:17] <deus_> how can i get the chroot system to read the mounted cdrom?
[02:18] <high-freq> xbox_guru:  go into the directory that contains the deb file....and then do  dpkg -i filename.deb   whatever the filename is
[02:18] <high-freq> deus_: should be the same... mount /dev/??? /mnt/???
[02:18] <xbox_guru> high-freq: from the terminal?
[02:18] <samuli> It's funny that dapper has graphical deb installer :)
[02:18] <samuli> might be available for breezy too.
[02:19] <deus_> high-freq: well its not, it wont mount on /chroot/media/cdrom
[02:19] <aLeSD> hi all
[02:19] <goldenratio> lo all
[02:19] <aLeSD> lol
[02:19] <goldenratio> cheers, regard
[02:19] <TheFuzzball> how do I put a system tray applet on my gnome panel?
[02:19] <megaman123> what does "bash: /usr/bin.vdr: no such file or directory" mean ???? and how can i get rid of it and point to right fold ?
[02:19] <high-freq> deus_: well if your chrooted then your basically in your system.... so just do  mount /dev/??? /media/cdrom
[02:20] <TheFuzzball> how do I put a system tray applet on my gnome panel?
[02:20] <aLeSD> Someone knows how to install uropecv package in a latex ubuntu installation ?
[02:20] <voraistos> TheFuzzball: rightclick
[02:20] <samuli> latex-ubuntu? :))
[02:21] <high-freq> TheFuzzball: go into System > Preferences > Sessions
[02:21] <aLeSD> mmm ... only ubuntu ...  :)
[02:21] <deus_> high-freq: well i im in the chroot there is no fstab to use is there?
[02:21] <xbox_guru> high-freq: brb
[02:21] <Curtman> TheFuzzball: Right click -> Add to Panel, and drag the "Notification Area" from the "utilities" section to somewhere on your panel.
[02:21] <TheFuzzball> thank you
[02:22] <high-freq> deus_: did u have a previous install?  if so when u say when your chrooted..that means u are now in your system...should be in /etc/fstab  see if u have that
[02:22] <yo> kann mir einer helfen?
[02:22] <Most_Wanted> if u talk english maybe
[02:22] <voraistos> pls, smo give me his /etc/apt/sources.list, my multiverse is quite empty for some reason
[02:22] <Steveire> If I want to change where the MBR looks for GRUB, can I do that?
[02:22] <high-freq> TheFuzzball: or do what Curtman says ;)
[02:22] <yo> i can't installl blu j
[02:22] <Steveire> Currently it looks for it on one of my linux distros, but I want it to look for it on another partition
[02:22] <yo> blue j
[02:22] <Most_Wanted> hmm
[02:22] <high-freq> xbox_guru: did dpkg -i  filename.deb  work
[02:22] <Curtman> I'm having a problem with my mom's PC.  I have snd-ens1371 in /etc/modules, and it's being loaded at boot but her soundcard doesn't work until I rmmod it, and modprobe it again manually.  Anyone know why?
[02:22] <deus_> high-freq: what i mean is that i wasnt told to copy the fstab from my original system to the chroot
[02:23] <TheFuzzball> thank you, but I have another problem, how do I get rid of these horrible seperators?
[02:23] <voraistos> rightclick, remove
[02:23] <megaman123> sorry all...can someone help me with "bash: /usr/bin/vdr: no suc file or directory" how can rectify this and change it to the right path ????
[02:24] <Most_Wanted> :p
[02:24] <high-freq> deus_: is this a new hd install or somethin?  cuz i'm still not gettin you...when u chroot into your hd...then you should see 'everything' that you have installed...the base system and all
[02:24] <Curtman> TheFuzzball: I'm guessing each one of those seperators is a Notification Area.. You only need one, and it won't have anything in it until some application puts something in it.
[02:24] <yo> where can i find the jdk directory in ubuntu 5.1
[02:24] <TheFuzzball> there are two seperators at each side, and I can't remove them
[02:24] <xbox_guru> high-freq: everytime I try to install the utils it says filename or dir not found
[02:24] <pat_bateman> !
[02:24] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pat_bateman
[02:24] <deus_> high-freq: when im in the chroot i cant see the base system, the root is then /chroot
[02:25] <aeolus> I figured out I had to use Configuration Editor
[02:25] <xbox_guru> high-freq: and the filename I doublechecked
[02:25] <high-freq> deus_: chroot is there for those that need to fix their system...so they load a liveCD and chroot into their system and that means you are now on using your hd like you first boot up...
[02:25] <Curtman> TheFuzzball: Sure you can.  Right click and click "Remove from Panel".  You can drag them around on the panel with your middle mouse button.
[02:25] <deus_> high-freq: hmm, this is a 32-bits chroot
[02:26] <Most_Wanted> that isnt hard is it TheFuzzball
[02:26] <Most_Wanted> ?
[02:26] <TheFuzzball> that moves the whole panel
[02:26] <high-freq> deus_: weird....what bout /chroot/etc/fstab?  is that there?
[02:26] <megaman123> i dont think this is a very hard question ==> "bash: /usr/bin/vdr: no suc file or directory" how can rectify this and change it to the right path ????
[02:26] <voraistos> TheFuzzball: right, not eft
[02:26] <deus_> high-freq: well as i said, i didnt create one, because i wasnt told to, i dont know the consquence of that
[02:26] <deus_> its not made for that system
[02:26] <Curtman> TheFuzzball: Then you aren't clicking on the handle of the notification area.  If you drag on the panel itself, then it moves the panel.
[02:27] <yo> do somebody know where i can find find the jdk directory in ubuntu 5.1 java
[02:27] <deus_> high-freq: i do have a fstab file but its empty
[02:27] <high-freq> deus_: every install auto creates it
[02:27] <TheFuzzball> no, I am clicking on the left side of the panel, at the edge
[02:27] <milestone> hi all
[02:27] <high-freq> deus_: do  cat /chroot/etc/fstab
[02:27] <high-freq> is it empty?
[02:27] <milestone> how can i migrate my amd64 sarge system to ubuntu?
[02:27] <xbox_guru>  what's the full directory name for the tmp folder? (/..../tmp)
[02:27] <high-freq> xbox_guru: /tmp
[02:28] <voraistos> TheFuzzball: make sure u know where right is.
[02:28] <livingdaylight> ompaul: there are no plugins that i can see in /var/lib
[02:28] <ompaul> livingdaylight, there is a file here: .mozilla/firefox which contains a list of plugins
[02:28] <deus_> high-freq: nevermind
[02:28] <ompaul> livingdaylight, that is what I said
[02:28] <xbox_guru> high-freq: yeah I don't know all the directory things yet...
[02:28] <xbox_guru> brb
[02:28] <high-freq> xbox_guru...k
[02:28] <deus_> what i really wanted is that the cdrom would mount on /media/cdrom and /chroot/media/cdrom
[02:29] <beerockxs> where in GConf can I set keyboard shortcuts?
[02:29] <milestone> i just added the ubuntu repositories to the sources list but it seems that there is some awkward dependency on libc6 of whatever sort
[02:29] <vladuz976> if i want a program to start everytime i startx where can i put the script that starts it?
[02:29] <livingdaylight> ompaul: i open the mozilla-firefox folder and then there 4 more folders (chrome, components, extensions and extensions.d)
[02:29] <voraistos> ompaul: this place looks strange, just like the debian chanels
[02:29] <milestone> because all of a sudden the system couldn't execute anything under /bin nor /sbin
[02:29] <orbin> beerockxs: no need. sys > prefs > kb/ shortcuts
[02:30] <ompaul> livingdaylight, the extentions file contains the names and addresses of extentions but frankly this is not my area of expertise
[02:30] <beerockxs> orbin: Not for launching an app that is not mentioned in the shortcuts dialog
[02:30] <high-freq> deus_: are u using the liveCD?
[02:30] <megaman123> knowledged people..please..why when i write "vdr" do i get this "bash: /usr/bin/vdr: no such file or directory" and how can i fix it?  thank u
[02:31] <deus_> high-freq: no im not using a liveCD, im using a folder that got system files in it, 32 bit versions, so i cant use mplayer with all its glory in my amd64 system
[02:31] <ompaul> voraistos, that comment has no point of reference for me, (help me out here)
[02:31] <deus_> its a system withing a system
[02:31] <xbox_guru> high-freq: when I tried it again it said there was a split error...
[02:31] <high-freq> megaman123: cuz it might not be installed in /usr/bin   do a locate vdr  and see if its in /sbin or /usr/sbin  or somethin
[02:32] <livingdaylight> ompaul: ok, thx :) are extensions plugins? the issue is finding what i need to copy and carry over to opera
[02:32] <xbox_guru> high-freq: and no filename or directory, when they were both right
[02:32] <AlmtyBob> anyone familiar with mysql and could tell me  what's wrong with: SELECT a.name FROM a INNER JOIN linkAandB l ON a.id = l.Aid WHERE l.Bid = (SELECT id FROM b WHERE name = 'foo');
[02:32] <high-freq> xbox_guru: hmm...split error?   and u are still trying to install ndiswrapper  right
[02:32] <megaman123> high-freq: ok... and then how can i change it to the right path
[02:32] <xbox_guru> yes
[02:32] <voraistos> ompaul: i mean it is kinda busy, with strange people arround. Maybe i am just tired, but it is not like it used to be.
[02:33] <orbin> ubotu: tell beerockxs about shortcuts
[02:33] <bostik> i found
[02:33] <high-freq> megaman123: if your typing in console...just figure out whre the path is..and type the command  like   /usr/sbin/vdr  or whatever it is
[02:33] <bostik> it needs to install ia32lib
[02:33] <bostik> :D
[02:33] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, you might be better off in a mysql channel - or postgresql :)
[02:33] <beerockxs> thanks orbin
[02:33] <sander> which package should I install when I get "glib.h: No such file or directory"
[02:34] <sander> how can I do: apt-file search in ubuntu?
[02:34] <ompaul> voraistos, thanks for calling us stange :-) we don't do the abuse users thing and I believe that debian has taken the same route :)
[02:34] <xbox_guru> high-freq: what do you think I should do
[02:34] <malachi> bittorrent
[02:35] <high-freq> xbox_guru:  before u do anything.... when u type in   sudo ndiswrapper    does it say anything?  or just says no file found or whatever
[02:35] <deus_> high-freq: i gotta go, thanks for the attention anyway
[02:35] <malachi> i can't seem to find a fast bittorent client for ubuntu, does anyone know where i can find one?
[02:35] <high-freq> deus_: ya sorry bud...didn't really know what u meant by chroot....only to fix your system is what i kinda know...
[02:35] <xbox_guru> high-freq: it gave me a list of option
[02:35] <ompaul> malachi, the speed is determined by the seeders and leechers
[02:35] <high-freq> thats how i chroot in sometimes if i need to fix somethin
[02:36] <Curtman> sander: libglib2.0-dev probably
[02:36] <sander> already tried it
[02:36] <malachi> ompaul: i'm using ktorrent, and, it's SUPER slow.
[02:36] <h3h_timo> !rar
[02:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[02:36] <beerockxs> !winkey
[02:37] <high-freq> xbox_guru: ok you have ndiswrapper already installed... ;)   now go d/l the windows drivers..and copy the .inf and .sys file then do   sudo ndiswrapper -i  /path/to/driver/filename.inf
[02:37] <malachi> ompaul: what i'm downloading has Seeds:
[02:37] <malachi>   440
[02:37] <malachi>   Leechers:
[02:37] <malachi>   235
[02:38] <ompaul> malachi, and if they are all on dialup
[02:38] <high-freq> malachi: depends on how many seeders....if u have very little then it won't d/l fast...
[02:38] <voraistos> ompaul: but getting help on debian is quite hard. it is just a mess. U really have to find/already know some kind of guru if u want your box to run properly.... But anyway, i met nice people over here ;)
[02:38] <xbox_guru> high--freq: i'm sorry but what is the path i should type in for the cdrom
[02:38] <sander> Curtman, gave me the same error msg after installing libglib2.0-dev
[02:38] <high-freq> xbox_guru: the nic's driver cdrom?
[02:38] <voraistos> malachi: u should go on a bittorrent specialised forum i think
[02:38] <xbox_guru> freq: yes
[02:38] <malachi> ompaul: come on, what percentage of the internet population has dial-up?
[02:39] <ompaul> malachi, more than you know
[02:39] <orbin> malachi: i had dialup two weeks ago
[02:39] <voraistos> malachi: or just check your port forwarding by the way
[02:39] <h3h_timo> orbin, its me again... how do you extract rar files?
[02:39] <xbox_guru> high-freq: yes, whatever driver I need to put on there
[02:39] <high-freq> xbox_guru: oh ok.... do this  mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom  and that should mount it i believe...if it did..then cd into it and find the driver
[02:39] <green_earz>  malachi: check out >  bittornado-gui
[02:39] <orbin> hello h3h_timo .  install unrar-nonfree
[02:40] <alexMK> Hi
[02:40] <xbox_guru> high-freq: mount?
[02:40] <h3h_timo> orbin, nonfree?
[02:40] <malachi> voraistos: know any bittorent-based channel
[02:40] <orbin> h3h_timo: yes, i think so.  ask ubto about rar
[02:40] <orbin> *ubotu
[02:40] <h3h_timo> i forget how
[02:40] <h3h_timo> i did the ! thing
[02:40] <alexMK> Can anyone tell me which package  the arial font is in?
[02:40] <high-freq> xbox_guru: yes u have to mount the cdrom....   mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[02:40] <orbin> h3h_timo: /msg ubotu <keyword>
[02:41] <voraistos> malachi: no sorry, but... try azureus stuff or utorrent, they are quite famous, they could provide usefull info
[02:41] <xbox_guru> high-freq: ok
[02:41] <xbox_guru> brb
[02:41] <JdGordon> can any1 help me get nas working (network audio system) ?
[02:41] <high-freq> xbox_guru: first put the cd into the cdrom..hehe
[02:41] <xbox_guru> high-freq: ok
[02:41] <high-freq> hehe
[02:41] <orbin> h3h_timo: you're up early
[02:41] <xbox_guru> high-freq: then mount it... what do I do after I mount it
[02:41] <orbin> h3h_timo: or did you stay up all night playing w/ ubuntu? :)
[02:42] <h3h_timo> orbin, yeah, i have church in a bit
[02:42] <h3h_timo> lol till like 4 or 5
[02:42] <high-freq> xbox_guru:  then u  cd into it...and find the driver
[02:42] <voraistos> lol
[02:43] <xbox_guru> high-freq: remember I just got this yesterday, what cd-into it mean?
[02:43] <high-freq> xbox_guru: cd /media/cdrom  then type  ls   then goto whatever dir the drivers are in...then  do  sudo ndiswrapper -i driver_name.inf
[02:44] <hastesaver> xbox_guru, cd = change directory. Go to that directory. Assuming you're using the terminal, type "cd <directoryname>". Same as in DOS :)
[02:44] <alexMK> Is there an ubuntu package that includes ms fons like arial ?
[02:44] <orbin> ubotu: tell alexMK about msfonts
[02:44] <xbox_guru> high-freq: ok, i'll see what I can do
[02:45] <hastesaver> alexMK, "apt-cache search arial" will answer your question (the answer is msttcorefonts)
[02:45] <orbin> h3h_timo: did you try xfce?
[02:45] <high-freq> xbox_guru:  ya   ...   type these commands in    cd /media/cdrom   then type    ls    then  cd into the drivers directory if there is one
[02:45] <AlmtyBob> ah crap, the mysql version on ubuntu is 4.0?
[02:45] <alexMK> thanks guys
[02:45] <h3h_timo> orbin, yes.. it makes it a little faster
[02:46] <Fitzz> !xgl
[02:46] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[02:46] <Fitzz> !compiz
[02:46] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fitzz
[02:47] <szoller> it was extreemely slow
[02:47] <Fitzz> im unable to install it... though it worked on kororaa...  :-/
[02:47] <ericz> i just got a torrent of an installer for duke nukem 3d, there's an iso and a cue file... am i supposed to burn both? or just one of the files?
[02:47] <szoller> there are different tutorials... its nice... but I see no real sense.
[02:48] <szoller> And also it ran very very slow here
[02:48] <protocol1> is there anyone else having trouble getting packages from freecontrib.org?
[02:48] <protocol1> via sudo apt-get update?
[02:48] <Fitzz> there are way too much differend tutorials szoller   :p
[02:48] <szoller> :)
[02:48] <protocol1> or is it just me
[02:49] <Stormx2> sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy <-- how do I find out whats using it?
[02:49] <valehru> everytime I start firefox the mozilla quality feedback agent appears and then it just crashes with the following error: Pango-ERROR **: file shape.c: line 75 (pango_shape): assertion failed: (glyphs->num_glyphs > 0)
[02:50] <serp> is dapper stable?
[02:50] <high-freq> serp: i'm on beta 6.06 and seems fine so far on the laptop...i'm just having pcmcia issues ...but thats me tho..hehe
[02:50] <serp> ok
[02:50] <salmiak> serp, it's *quite* stable :) i got some probs with gaim, but other than that - nothing
[02:50] <Acrisor> hello
[02:50] <serp> is there a way to upgrade 5.10 to dapper?
[02:50] <goldenratio> hello
[02:50] <serp> without a reinstall
[02:51] <high-freq> ya theres a howto on upgrade
[02:51] <high-freq> !upgrading
[02:51] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:52] <Acrisor> can i run ubuntu as a server for route/gateway/firewall on a pentium1 with 24mb RAM ?
[02:52] <ericz> i got an .iso and a .cue file in a torrent, am i supposed to burn both of them?
[02:52] <serp> ericz: don't burn the cue file
[02:52] <serp> look at the size of it
[02:52] <serp> it's probably very smal
[02:52] <serp> l
[02:52] <ericz> 345 bytes
[02:52] <high-freq> Acrisor: u can do what u want ;)  just with that...i'd just run console...hehe
[02:52] <salmiak> ericz, pick "burn from image" in your burning app...
[02:52] <ericz> i'm using nautilus to burn
[02:53] <LoCusF> I once burned an iso as data file :/
[02:53] <LoCusF> that sucked
[02:53] <xbox_guru> high-freq: I really think linux doen't like me.... when I tried to mount it it said it "can't find dev/cdrom/media/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[02:53] <goldenratio> do you know how much ram in your premade access point?
[02:53] <salmiak> ericz, then you should be able to rightclick the .iso and choose burn
[02:53] <high-freq> serp: u want to burn as image....the cue file is what u want it to point at...
[02:53] <voraistos> ompaul: i have to signal a problem in breezy with repositories
[02:53] <voraistos> ompaul: what should i do ?
[02:54] <ericz> alright, thanks
[02:54] <high-freq> xbox_guru:  ok ..holdon sec
[02:54] <ompaul> voraistos, what do you mean by that?
[02:54] <Acrisor> high-freq so... can i user ubuntu for that?
[02:54] <Acrisor> will my resources allow it?
[02:54] <ompaul> voraistos, if you need a lot of space use paste.ubuntu-nl.org for more than 2 lines
[02:55] <voraistos> ompaul: i had to edit manually(and quite blindly) repositories to get multiverse fully working
[02:55] <xbox_guru> high-freq: ok, I can wait
[02:55] <high-freq> Acrisor: yes u can...u can use any linux distro to be a server...but with such a slow machine...i'd just not install anything gui...hehe
[02:55] <high-freq> Acrisor: i think there's a server mode install....or somethin like that in ubuntu install
[02:55] <high-freq> not too sure
[02:55] <voraistos> ompaul: i pm u now
[02:56] <salmiak> Acrisor, a P1 is, afaik, a little slow to use as gateway...You won't get to the real high speeds i think
[02:56] <ompaul> voraistos, that is in the wiki many a faq etc they will never be part of the core release
[02:56] <high-freq> xbox_guru: ok...  do    cat /etc/fstab   i'm sorry....i gave u the wrong command... like mine would  be   mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[02:57] <graveson> can anyone tell me about a good experience installing the ATI drivers or recommend a display card that will work first time. I have had ATI nightmares
[02:57] <high-freq> graveson: what ATI card?
[02:57] <high-freq> !ati
[02:57] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:58] <Larsson-Sweden> I need a program (GUI) that searches my partition for errors. Much like "scandisk" in windows.
[02:59] <bbrazil> Larsson-Sweden: fsck, I'm not aware of any gui for it
[02:59] <graveson> high-freq:all in wonder x9600
[02:59] <Acrisor> salmiak, is there any info on how to set ubuntu as a router?
[02:59] <Larsson-Sweden> bbrazil, i don't think it can scan mounted partitions.
[02:59] <bbrazil> Larsson-Sweden: it can, if they're readonly
[02:59] <high-freq> graveson: ubotu just showed u the links...or u can just type in  !ati   and it'll give u the links again
[02:59] <bbrazil> Larsson-Sweden: last time I checked windwos restarted everytime you altered the disk
[03:00] <Curtman> Acrisor: shorewall works well for me.
[03:01] <Larsson-Sweden> bbrazil, it my ext3 partition so it's readable. I dont need to repair anything, just want to check it.
[03:01] <high-freq> larsson_sweden: i think  linhdd  shows it..
[03:01] <high-freq> Larsson-Sweden: or just use cfdisk
[03:02] <high-freq> oops...i think u meant a gui fsck?  not fdisk
[03:02] <Larsson-Sweden> bbrazil, when i booted Ubuntu the other day, a check was forced so it checked my parition. It said that it found errors but that they where repaired. So it rebooted again, and everything worked fine. I have not noticed any errors on my partition.
[03:02] <bbrazil> Larsson-Sweden: then you're probably fine
[03:03] <Thib_G> Hi
[03:03] <Thib_G> I bought a new computer
[03:03] <Larsson-Sweden> high-freq, it does not matter if it's GUI or not really. Just want to check it.
[03:03] <bbrazil> Larsson-Sweden: if it's your root partition you'd be best off booting from livecd and running fsck from that
[03:03] <high-freq> Larsson-Sweden: ya upon bootups if there are errors it will attempt to fix them...if it said ok..then you are fine
[03:03] <Thib_G> But I can't install ubuntu
[03:03] <high-freq> Larsson-Sweden: best bet is somethin simple fsck
[03:03] <Thib_G> Er... I can
[03:03] <Thib_G> But it doesn't find any ethernet card
[03:04] <Larsson-Sweden> high-freq, yes it said something like "Found errors and repaired them, but need to reboot"
[03:04] <bbrazil> Thib_G: lspci - is it listed?
[03:04] <Thib_G> I have an ethernet card ( Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC ) and a wi-fi card ( Intel Pro wireless 3945ABG Network Connexion )
[03:04] <Thib_G> bbrazil: I haven't installed ubuntu yet
[03:04] <high-freq> so u want to know if they are compatible?
[03:05] <Curtman> I'm having a problem with my mom's PC.  I have snd-ens1371 in /etc/modules, and it's being loaded at boot but her soundcard doesn't work until I rmmod it, and modprobe it again manually.  Anyone know why?
[03:05] <Thib_G> high-freq: Yes, and know how to install them
[03:06] <bbrazil> Thib_G: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?s=90037d32db82af0b96e1c7c28cb06330&t=52282
[03:06] <bbrazil> Thib_G: looks messy
[03:06] <high-freq> Thib_G: well first check on if they are compatible..there's many linux hardware compatibility websites out there on google......and if they say they are...then for those 2...it should auto install on the installation
[03:06] <Curtman> In dmesg, it shows "unable to grab IRQ 6", and "ENS1371: probe of 0000:01:07.0 failed with error -16" the first time.  Then " PCI: Found IRQ 6 for device 0000:01:07.0" and "PCI: Sharing IRQ 6 with 0000:00:01.0" after I do it manually.
[03:07] <high-freq> Curtman: hmm...irq issues is a problem sometimes....um...i'm not sure what file to edit but u can change the irq of it
[03:08] <ubuntu> can anyone help me please
[03:08] <Curtman> high-freq: 6 is fine with me.  I just want to know why it doesn't work the first time, but does the second.
[03:08] <xbox_guru> high-freq: i tried what yousaid and it came up with the same thing
[03:08] <ubuntu> i need alot of help with my sound card
[03:08] <Curtman> high-freq: I guess next time I'm over there, I'll have to try moving the card to a different slot or something.
[03:09] <high-freq> Curtman: or u could do that ;)
[03:09] <ubuntu> My computer does not see the sound card i am using a Compaq Deskpro EN with soundcard built in to motherboard
[03:09] <Curtman> high-freq: There has to be an easier way though.  :(
[03:10] <high-freq> Curtman: i'm not sure on how to change irq's of a device....i never done that..
[03:10] <ubuntu> can anyone help me here???????????????
[03:11] <high-freq> ubuntu: do lspci  and see what kinda card it is...then possibly load the module for it
[03:11] <green_earz> ubuntu: use the link to find out what the name of the driver is for your sound card http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[03:11] <ubuntu> my sound card is a intel sound card its built in to the motherboard
[03:11] <high-freq> ubuntu: also check out  dmesg  see if there are any errors
[03:12] <goldenratio> did intel make sound cards?
[03:12] <ubuntu> well they sure combined it with my motherboard
[03:12] <xbox_guru> high-frequency, when I tried to mount it it came up with the same error. I typed mount /cat/etc/fstab/media/cdrom
[03:13] <ubuntu> whenever i click the speaker icon it gives me error messages
[03:13] <ubuntu> it says i possibly need more GStreamer plugins
[03:14] <ubuntu> high freq
[03:14] <Lorvija> just out of curiousity... any linksys wireless router users here? and if so which model and is it okay? (:
[03:14] <high-freq> hmm
[03:15] <ubuntu> high freq it says i need the appropriate gstreamer plugins but im on the gstreamer page but what else can i do now
[03:16] <lppcta> ubuntu: what are you trying to do?
[03:16] <Curtman> ubuntu: It has nothing to do with gstreamer though, it's your alsa driver that isn't loaded, and that's why gstreamer isnt working.
[03:16] <high-freq> xbox_guru:  no no...i mean do   cat  /etc/fstab    then it'll list what u have....so point mount to the device u have your cdrom on ...like mine says  /dev/hdc  so do this    mount /dev/??? /media/cdrom  or cdrom 0
[03:16] <coz_> dapper updates removed the shortcut for logout in the keyboard shortcuts menu anyone know the command for the logout screen/
[03:17] <high-freq> ubuntu: if it didn't load your module then u must modprobe the module for that intel module for that chipset....
[03:18] <ubuntu> curtman where can i get a alsa driver
[03:18] <Curtman> ubuntu: Type 'lspci' and find what sound card you have first.
[03:18] <lppcta> ubuntu: You need to find out what hardware you have first. Use: lspci
[03:18] <ubuntu> where do i type lspci in?
[03:19] <lppcta> ubuntu: in a terminal
[03:19] <high-freq> in a terminal session
[03:19] <seife> hi
[03:19] <seife> i need help
[03:19] <ubuntu> ok how do i get the terminal up im sorry to ask so many questions im new to ubuntu
[03:19] <Curtman> ubuntu: in a terminal window Click Applications/Terminal
[03:19] <mundi> hi all
[03:19] <Curtman> ubuntu: Sorry, Applications/Accessories/Terminal
[03:20] <ubuntu> ok im in the terminal now
[03:20] <Curtman> ubuntu: Type lspci
[03:20] <mundi> have anybody idea why firefox on ubuntu is so slow ??
[03:20] <lppcta> ubuntu: type lspci, then hit enter
[03:20] <ubuntu> whoa it says intel thats one thing
[03:21] <Curtman> ubuntu: Intel what?
[03:21] <wasabi> hello
[03:21] <seife> i have a problem editing the partitions on dapper drake live cd, i have a driver in two partitions, one with windows and the other with breezy, i want to remove breezy and install dapper drake, but i couldn't make it right way the cd doesnt have any like automatic partitioning.. please help
[03:21] <ubuntu> wait a sec what would a sound driver title look like on the terminal
[03:21] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[03:22] <uber_spaced> how do I play a midi file?
[03:22] <Curtman> ubuntu: It should say "Multimedia audio controller:", then some model number.
[03:22] <uber_spaced> i've installed timidity
[03:22] <aeolus> Does anyone know how to set up MP3 playback on Breezy?
[03:22] <lppcta> ubuntu: lspci | grep Multimedia audio
[03:22] <ubuntu> it doesnt show any multimedia device on the terminal
[03:22] <seife> someone help me :(
[03:22] <coz_> anyone know the command to bring up the logout UI dapper
[03:22] <ubuntu> just ide controllers and whatnot
[03:22] <lppcta> ubuntu: that should tell you which devices you have for sound
[03:23] <uber_spaced> and iit says it cant find the /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg
[03:23] <Curtman> ubuntu: One of those is the sound card.
[03:24] <lppcta> ubuntu: paste the result from lspci on this site - http://rafb.net/paste/
[03:24] <s|k> what's the path to my cd writer?
[03:24] <s|k> /dev/ what?
[03:24] <ubuntu> ok
[03:24] <lppcta> ubuntu: then post the link back here
[03:24] <seife> ubuntu can u help me?
[03:24] <ubuntu> seife im new to this too
[03:24] <lppcta> s|k: usually /dev/hdc
[03:25] <seife> someone help
[03:25] <green_earz> s|k:  have a look at the file fstab   command " cat /etc/fstab "
[03:25] <lppcta> seife: you have to ask a question before you can get any help here
[03:26] <ubuntu> curtman
[03:26] <Curtman> ubuntu
[03:26] <ubuntu> curtman the terminal doesnt see a sound card
[03:27] <Curtman> ubuntu: s|k asked you to copy the output of lspci and paste it on http://rafb.net/paste/ then give us the address.  Did you do that?
[03:27] <s|k>  lppcta green_earz thanks
[03:27] <simp> hello, is there a way to connect into a wifi network with psk-TKIP ?
[03:27] <ubuntu> what do i paste in the site
[03:28] <Curtman> ubuntu: Whatever lspci says.
[03:28] <lppcta> ubuntu: the results from lspci
[03:28] <ubuntu> oh all of the results on the terminal it says
[03:28] <lppcta> !tell simp about wifi
[03:28] <Curtman> lppcta: It's like pulling teeth.  Haha
[03:28] <simp> !wifi
[03:28] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:28] <lppcta> curtman: :)
[03:28] <uber_spaced> what
[03:28] <uber_spaced> * what'
[03:28] <uber_spaced> dammit
[03:29] <uber_spaced> *what's a good volume controll program?
[03:29] <green_earz> ubuntu:   use the command "  lspci -n  "  and then go to the link http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/  and paste the command out put into the site and then look for your sound card driver name
[03:29] <bbrazil> uber_spaced: alsamixer, setmixer are what I use
[03:29] <ubuntu> i pasted it now what
[03:29] <simp> sorry but this says nothing about psk-tkip there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:29] <uber_spaced> bbrazil, thanks, will try that out.
[03:29] <lppcta> ubuntu: post the url of the link here
[03:29] <crazy_penguin> has somene used the xmms-remote-control plug-in in gaim? i have some problem with it. can some help me?
[03:30] <simp> lppcta, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto has nothing about psk-tkip :S
[03:30] <ubuntu> i pasted that thing who ever just told me to do that
[03:30] <lppcta> simp: if all else fails, google is your friend
[03:30] <Curtman> ubuntu: You might want to try this in the terminal: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[03:31] <simp> ok...
[03:31] <uber_spaced> ahh, finally got some midy working.
[03:31] <ubuntu> http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.cgi
[03:32] <ubuntu> who ever wanted that link click it
[03:32] <uber_spaced> a little choppy, but not too bad
[03:32] <lppcta> ubuntu: you have to press check first before you give us link
[03:32] <ubuntu> lppcta
[03:33] <lppcta> ubuntu: that way we can see the text you are pasting
[03:33] <ubuntu> what text
[03:33] <ubuntu> PCI ID	Works?	Vendor	Device	Driver	Comment
[03:33] <ubuntu> 80867190	Yes	Intel Corporation	440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge	intel-agp,agpgart	
[03:33] <ubuntu> 80867191	Yes	Intel Corporation	440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge	agpgart	
[03:33] <ubuntu> 80861229	Yes	Intel Corporation	82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] 	eepro100,e100	
[03:33] <ubuntu> 80867110	Yes	Intel Corporation	82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA	ignore	
[03:33] <ubuntu> 80867111	Yes	Intel Corporation	82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE	piix	
[03:33] <rlmufmg> oi
[03:33] <ubuntu> 80867112	Yes	Intel Corporation	82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB	uhci-hcd,usb-uhci	
[03:33] <ubuntu> 80867113	Yes	Intel Corporation	82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI	i2c-piix4,ignore	
[03:33] <ubuntu> 10024742	Yes	ATI Technologies Inc	Rage Pro Turbo AGP 2X	ati	
[03:34] <ubuntu> this is the results
[03:34] <Curtman> ubuntu: Don't paste that much text in here again please.
[03:34] <ubuntu> whoops sorry
[03:34] <lppcta> ubuntu: ok, go to this site.http://rafb.net/paste/ - copy the text out of the terminal, produced by lspci, then paste into the textbox on the site, then press paste. then copy the url out of the address box then paste it here
[03:34] <maskd_> ubuntu: http://pastebin.com
[03:35] <Davros> I don't have a screen and I'm reading this from the printer, think of my toner bills :~(
[03:35] <ubuntu> lppcta slow down lets go thorugh slowly ok
[03:35] <lppcta> ubuntu: is that all the results?
[03:36] <maskd_> Davros: use another computer? :|
[03:36] <ubuntu> lppcta do i put in the lspci results or the lspci -n results?
[03:36] <Curtman> ubuntu: Did you try this?   sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[03:36] <lppcta> ubuntu: just lspci results
[03:37] <ubuntu> curtman i did that it says theres no such command
[03:37] <phanter> hello. how can I check if my GLX is working? How do I use the desktop enhencements (using dapper)
[03:38] <lppcta> phanter: glxinfo | grep direct
[03:38] <ubuntu> http://rafb.net/paste/results/vvxkct40.html this is the link
[03:38] <bbrazil> phanter: try #ubuntu+1
[03:39] <crazy_penguin> forgive me for repeating myself.
[03:39] <crazy_penguin> has somene used the xmms-remote-control plug-in in gaim? i have some problem with it. can some help me?
[03:39] <lppcta> ubuntu: hmm, thats not the results from lspci
[03:39] <ubuntu> lpccta click my link
[03:39] <ubuntu> http://rafb.net/paste/results/vvxkct40.html
[03:39] <alan|laptop> hi all
[03:40] <xbox_guru> high-freq: I got it mounted but I don't know what to do next
[03:40] <paperguides> quit
[03:40] <lppcta> ubuntu: you need to use lspci in the terminal, then copy the results of that command only, then paste onto that site
[03:40] <green_earz> ubuntu: by the look of thing there is no sound card
[03:41] <siccness> Using gnome, can you have a different wallpaper for each multi-desktop?
[03:41] <alan|laptop> i'm trying to compile a modul, but i have an error "Makefile:13: /lib/modules/2.6.15-22-386/source/.config: no such file or directory". Why the heck is this directory incomplete ????
[03:41] <ubuntu> my sound card it built into my motherboard
[03:41] <green_earz> ubuntu: as it been disabled in the bios ?
[03:41] <lppcta> ubuntu: you need to paste the results from lspci, not lspci -n
[03:41] <ubuntu> http://rafb.net/paste/results/EsDLJP59.html this is the lspci link
[03:42] <ubuntu> green earz is there a way to get into the bios?
[03:42] <siccness> Press delete when you boot your computer up :|
[03:42] <lppcta> ubuntu: have you gotten the sound to work on that pc previously?
[03:43] <xbox_guru2> my internet connection died again,
[03:43] <ubuntu> no it didnt work when i first installed this
[03:43] <dizz1> Hi! Need someones help! How can i change the screen resolution to more higher? I wrote the new HORIZONTAL and VERTICAL frequencys to /ETC/X11/XORG.CONF , but still have no luck
[03:43] <xbox_guru2> high-freq: what do I type to get the driver on the cd
[03:43] <MenZa> !resolution
[03:43] <ubotu> methinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:43] <green_earz> ubuntu:   when the machine boots press the del key a few times and you should be able to get into your bios setup
[03:44] <xbox_guru2> is high frequency still on
[03:44] <ubuntu> what do i do into the bios
[03:45] <dizz1> ubotu, thanx
[03:45] <ubotu> dizz1: my pleasure
[03:45] <ubuntu> green earz will u be on for a while here cuz im guna reboot to bios but what do i do in bios
[03:45] <dizz1> ubotu, can i use it for dapper?
[03:45] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dizz1
[03:45] <green_earz> ubuntu: take your time and have a look around through the sections and see if you can find out if the sound card as been disabled
[03:46] <ubuntu> ok i hope ur still on when im back
[03:46] <ubuntu> which ubuntu server is this
[03:46] <Solilo> Just a quick question, does anyone know the name of the selection box that comes up when you insert a blank CD-R?
[03:47] <lppcta> ubuntu: network: irc.freenode.net channel: #ubuntu
[03:48] <LadyNikon> O.o
[03:48] <Davros> O.o?
[03:48] <Solilo> Taken as a no, ah well. :P
[03:48] <mogul> ive connected my LCD-TV to my computer via VGA-cable, but i dont get any signals on my tv. WHAT DO I DO?
[03:49] <Solilo> Google just permanetely changed their layout, suprise, suprise.
[03:49] <MenZa> Solilo: You're talking personalized home? It's been like that for some time.
[03:49] <RandolphCarter> yeah, and you can still use classic home if you want
[03:50] <Solilo> mogul: Run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and set both the refresh rates and native resolution of the television.
[03:50] <noname266> Anyone tells me how to install win4lin in "Breezy"?
[03:50] <ubuntu> green earz it didnt work the ubuntu bios or the main computer bios u mean
[03:50] <crazy_penguin> can someone remind me with what command can i dump the descriptions from my packages, all my installed packages i mean. thx
[03:51] <kurei> hi, how do i install jdk in ubuntu?
[03:51] <Solilo> MenZa: No, not Google 'IG'. The different category selections have been moved from above the search field to the left of the results. At least for mine it does, don't remember changing anything.
[03:52] <lppcta> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install hwinfo && hwinfo --pci | grep media
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> mogul,  depends on your video card - and other things.
[03:52] <ubuntu> lppcta whees the site or is that a command
[03:53] <lppcta> ubuntu: paste that into a terminal and press enter
[03:53] <orbin> ubotu: tell kurei about java
[03:53] <ubuntu> the whole thing
[03:53] <Solilo> kurei: As far as I know, the commercial version of JDK is not available on even the universal repositories though the free-java-sdk package is.
[03:53] <lppcta> ubuntu: ye
[03:54] <Solilo> Or even the multiverse, though it might be there under some absurd package name. lol
[03:54] <ubuntu> llppcta now it wants a password
[03:54] <lppcta> ubuntu: type in your users password
[03:55] <ubuntu> press enter then type it in? cuz it wont show letters when first typing it
[03:55] <kurei> orbin, thank you
[03:55] <mogul> Solilo: when i ran the command, the thing that came up started asking me questions i didnt know the answer to. Such as select driver
[03:55] <kurei> orbin: thank you
[03:55] <mogul> aint there an easyer way
[03:55] <lppcta> ubuntu: when you asks for password type in the password then press enter
[03:56] <lppcta> it*
[03:56] <ubuntu> it wont show letters when i first type it
[03:56] <lppcta> ubuntu: ye, it's a password, it doesn't show what you type
[03:56] <flankk> acpi gives me a temperature of 4294967040.0 degrees C.  Is it likely my BIOS is using APM?
[03:56] <ubuntu> i was pressing del mulitple times to get into the bios as someone told me
[03:57] <Solilo> mogul: You could edit /etc/xorg.conf manually and find the sections detailing screen frequences and the resolution.
[03:57] <Solilo> mogul: /etc/X11/xorg.conf even, my bad. I just woke up. lol
[03:58] <ubuntu> its not working
[03:58] <lppcta> ubuntu: ?
[03:59] <Solilo> The key to bring up the boot menu various from BIOS to BIOS.
[03:59] <ubuntu> i press enter then enter the password it then it says sorry try again
[03:59] <Solilo> It's usually Esc, F11, or F12.
[03:59] <lppcta> ubuntu: type the password first, then press enter
[04:00] <ubuntu> it wont go in when i try to type it first brb im guna reboot
[04:00] <lppcta> ubuntu: it's the same password you use when you log in
[04:00] <lppcta> ....
[04:02] <mumbles> how do i get rid of dependenceys ?
[04:02] <pip`> anyone know if there is an Ubuntu usage video out yet on torrents ?
[04:02] <Solilo> ^ You mean like a tutorial video?
[04:02] <orbin> usage video?
[04:02] <pip`> yes yes
[04:03] <pip`> like they already have for a couple other linux versions
[04:03] <pip`> debian has one
[04:03] <noname266> When I tried to load the winCD in win4lin. This message appears : "mount: you must specify the filesystem type". What is the problem?
[04:03] <Nap> hi
[04:03] <Solilo> Nap: 'ello.
[04:03] <Nap> does someone use doxygen to generate code doc ?
[04:04] <Nap> I have encoding problems
[04:04] <mumbles_> how do i get rid of some dependanceys ?
[04:04] <pip`> isnt there someone in here that could maybe make a nice Ubuntu tutorial video sometime soon?
[04:04] <mumbles_> !past
[04:04] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mumbles_
[04:04] <mumbles_> !paste
[04:04] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:04] <Nap> my php files are utf8, while doxygen uses iso-8859-1, even if my system is in utf8
[04:05] <Solilo> I do remember a small project from the forums with people making tutorial videos through Wink, it didn't get too far. Other than that, the only videos I know of are the random ones you find through Google Video. :\
[04:06] <pip`> theres also a general Linux tutorial video
[04:06] <Dyngo> which program can I use to edit python files, but better than gedit?
[04:06] <pip`> which i already have but havent watched yet
[04:07] <Solilo> Scite comes to mind, Dyngo.
[04:07] <Dyngo> Solilo, thanks, I'll check it!
[04:07] <Toma-> pip`: tutorial for what?
[04:07] <flankk> Dyngo, IDLE or vim.
[04:07] <pip`> for ubuntu
[04:07] <livingdaylight> mplayer was playing my video clips fromweb but now isn't. It buffers to 99% and then stops?
[04:07] <Toma-> pip`: for the whole she-bang or what?
[04:07] <Dyngo> flankk: how can I access the IDLE under linux?
[04:08] <xbox_guru2> hey I have a quick question, I'm trying to install a driver for my adapter using ndiswrapper . The drivers are on the cdrom, so I mounted the cdrom drive, but whenever I try to install the the driver it says it can't find the directory
[04:08] <Solilo> There's also Medit, that seemed a lot more stable than Scite for me.
[04:08] <AleXC_> Hey,
[04:08] <flankk> Dyngo, sudo apt-get install idle && idle
[04:08] <pip`> well, i'd be happy if there was a nice Ubtut about running basic programs on Ubuntu ie, utilities etc
[04:09] <AleXC_> I'm trying to network from my Ubuntu PC to my bro's Mac. I can see my bros Mac with I go Places->Network Servers - But when ever I double click on my bro's Mac name, it just comes up with blank directory
[04:09] <pip`> how to do basic troubleshooting on ubuntu etc
[04:09] <Dyngo> flankk: aahh fantastic, got it running already ;) perfect, thx
[04:09] <lppcta> pip`: there are gnome tutorials etc, if you are talking about using the gnome desktop
[04:10] <flankk> Dyngo, I prefer vim over IDLE for python scripting, but IDLE is powerful too.
[04:10] <Dyngo> flankk: well I can't install it from the official vim's website...
[04:10] <Solilo> Yeah, the surface functionality can really just be covered in Gnome tutorials.
[04:11] <Dyngo> flankk: is there an apt-get command? I didn't find it...
[04:11] <flankk> Dyngo, vim comes stock with ubuntu, no?
[04:11] <Solilo> It's part of ubuntu-minimal, yes.
[04:11] <green_earz> pip`  here is a link for a mpg of mark shuttleworth talking about the relationship of debian and ubuntu, it would give you some background info of where ubuntu is coming from > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2005/debconf5/mpeg/2005-07-14/02-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.mpeg
[04:11] <lppcta> Dyngo: sudo apt-get install nano :)
[04:12] <Dyngo> flankk: well, typing 'vim' in the terminal it'll enter the editor in command line.. I prefer a GUI
[04:12] <Dyngo> lppcta: hey, what's nano?
[04:12] <pip`> green_earz, ohh wow thx !
[04:12] <pip> green_earz, are you talking to me ?
[04:12] <Solilo> lppcta: If you mentioned using Nano over VIM in #debian.... oh boy. lol
[04:12] <pip`> no me
[04:12] <lppcta> Dyngo: cli editor, probably the best, includes support for colour coding etc, no gui though
[04:12] <green_earz> yes
[04:12] <flankk> Dyngo, I've never understood the need for a gui to edit text. *shrugs*
[04:13] <pip`> pip, hoo r u??
[04:13] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with mplayer?
[04:13] <mumbles> anyone know how i can get rid of this dependencey?
[04:13] <pip`> n y u look so much like me??
[04:13] <Dyngo> flankk: LOL! yeah maybe.. I'll try to learn how to use that, most people recommend it!
[04:14] <Solilo> Nano is a text-only editor that was first created as a replacement for Pico.
[04:14] <pip`> ohh its RayFredP lala
[04:14] <lppcta> Solilo: thankfully, i use the best tool for the job rather than devotion to a particular package ;)
[04:14] <mumbles> anyone know how i can get rid of this dependencey?
[04:14] <Solilo> Which dependency? lol
[04:15] <flankk> Dyngo, that's because dinasaurs use it.  IDLE is great beacuse it's bundled with the interpreter.
[04:15] <mumbles> ok why dident htat work
[04:15] <ubuntu> lcctp
[04:15] <mumbles> one sec
[04:15] <ubuntu> lppcta u still there
[04:15] <lppcta> ubuntu: yep
[04:16] <ubuntu> lppcta whats the command again
[04:16] <needlez> hey everyone, how do i make XMMS my default player? so that when i click on mp3's, instead of playing automatically through totem they play automatically through xmms?
[04:16] <lppcta> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install hwinfo && hwinfo --pci | grep media
[04:16] <Dyngo> flankk: yes, I used it in my dark windows times!
[04:16] <mumbles> Solilo - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13991
[04:16] <lppcta> ubuntu: it's the same password as you use to login
[04:16] <green_earz>  pip`:  and at www.go-opensource.org   which seems to be down at the moment. there are some video file about open source software and again mark shuttleworth
[04:17] <flankk> needlez, System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[04:17] <ubuntu> ok i did it but now it says couldnt find package fwinfo
[04:18] <ubuntu> hwinfo*
[04:18] <mundi> does anybody know why firefox in ubuntu is so slow ????
[04:18] <ubuntu> lppcta it says couldnt find package hwinfo
[04:18] <orbin> mundi: system specs?
[04:18] <mundi> does anybody know why firefox in ubuntu is so slow ????
[04:18] <Solilo> And you're sure hwinfo is installed?
[04:18] <lppcta> ubuntu: sounds like you might need to modify your sources.list
[04:19] <mirak> hi
[04:19] <needlez> flankk, thank you :)
[04:19] <mirak> what is the name of the application that can show dialogs from scripts ?
[04:19] <ubuntu> so now what do i dop
[04:19] <Solilo> Yeah, both hwinfo and apache2-mpm-worker show up in the repos for me.
[04:20] <lppcta> ubuntu: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:20] <mundi> 1,4 Ghz intel m, 512 ram, 40 gb disk, 64 mb intel 855GM graphic card
[04:20] <needlez> flankk, for some reason it only has web browser, mail reader and terminal, i can choose any other programs
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> mirak, xdialog gdialog
[04:20] <mundi> orbin: 1,4 Ghz intel m, 512 ram, 40 gb disk, 64 mb intel 855GM graphic card
[04:20] <mirak> Dr_Willis: zenity I found
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  and a dozen other variants :P
[04:20] <ubuntu> ok now what i got like many letters and words now
[04:21] <xbox_guru2> ok, what is the directory for the desktop
[04:21] <Solilo> xbox_guru2: ~/Desktop
[04:21] <orbin> mundi: what ff version?
[04:21] <xbox_guru2> so ~=home
[04:21] <ubuntu> lppcta i entered it what do i do now
[04:21] <xbox_guru2> ~ = home
[04:21] <Solilo> xbox_guru2: Correct-o.
[04:21] <xbox_guru2> lo-l
[04:21] <needcoffee> hi...
[04:21] <mundi> orbin: Firefox/1.0.8 (Ubuntu package 1.0.8)
[04:21] <Solilo> Ouch!
[04:21] <lppcta> ubuntu: any line that begins with a '#' and then is followed by 'deb' you need to remove the '#'
[04:22] <LadyNikon> someone needs to update their ff
[04:22] <ubuntu> how do i remove t
[04:22] <Solilo> mundi: It's an old build of Firefox, a lot slower than the 1.5x ones.
[04:22] <orbin> mundi: hmm, shouldn't be too slow.
[04:23] <mundi> ok
[04:23] <needcoffee> is it possible to get ekiga working with accountdata from gizmo?
[04:23] <mundi> so i neet to reinstall with new one ??
[04:23] <orbin> yes, but wasn't 1.0.8 a recent update?
[04:23] <lppcta> ubuntu: use the arrow keys to move to the '#' character then press backspace
[04:23] <orbin> ubotu: tell mundi about ff1.5
[04:23] <ubuntu> just remove the # deb or all the # symbols?
[04:24] <Solilo> Tfe version on the Drake repository is 1.5.0.3 currently.
[04:24] <Solilo> Just remove the pound signs before the lines that start out as deb or deb-src.
[04:24] <lppcta> ubuntu: just remove the '#' character, these turn the line into comments, which we don't want
[04:25] <ubuntu> just remove the # then the deb or all the # symbols on each line
[04:25] <needcoffee> is it possible to get ekiga working with accountdata from gizmo?
[04:25] <sonipo> hi i have a problem with a reiserfs partition that uses iso8859-1 encoding.. i switched to dapper and now it tries to use utf-8 encoding hence many filenames are broken... is there a way to force it to iso8859 (did not found an option for reiserfs in mount) or convert the whole fs to utf8?
[04:25] <ubuntu> ok i did it now what lppcta
[04:25] <Solilo> Save, then run apt-get update.
[04:26] <needlez> anyone here familiar with installing Nvidia drivers?
[04:26] <lppcta> ubuntu: you see lines that contain a '#' followed by  deb-src or deb http, you just remove the '#' at the start of those lines
[04:26] <mundi> orbin: what type of ff u have ??
[04:26] <ubuntu> i removed them what do i do now
[04:26] <mundi> orbin::1.5 ??
[04:26] <orbin> mundi: i'm running 1.5.0.2
[04:27] <mundi> orbin: what is the fastest way to install new ff ??
[04:27] <cjs> wow shame on me for thinking I was going to install Ubuntu and understand it in the same night..
[04:27] <Solilo> Could have just told him to go under Settings > Repositories in Synaptic and checkmark the disabled ones. :P
[04:27] <orbin> mundi: follow that wiki page
[04:27] <mundi> ok
[04:27] <lppcta> ubuntu: ok, you see the lines which contain a universe at the end of them?
[04:27] <cjs> hi all, im just here to watch and learn
[04:27] <xbox_guru2> ok, everytime i install the drivers in ndiswrapper it says invalid drivers, should I upgrade ndiswrapper
[04:27] <LinuxJones> needlez: did you follow the howto ?
[04:27] <ubuntu> universe?
[04:27] <Solilo> mundi: Add an outside repository or upgrade to Daper Drake.
[04:28] <lppcta> ubuntu: the word 'universe'
[04:28] <ubuntu> oh yes
[04:28] <mundi> ok ;)
[04:28] <gnosticapex_> anyone know if theres an update for the wireless card on a toshiba L25-S1195 (integrated 10/100 wireless lan (wi-fi certed) ) ?
[04:28] <cjs> I guess getting a filesharing program to work is kind of an advanced thing for this os huh?
[04:28] <ubuntu> i see it now what
[04:28] <lppcta> ubuntu: at the end of those add the word 'multiverse' ensuring that there is a space between the 'universe' and 'multiverse'
[04:29] <mogul> how do i install "modconf"
[04:29] <ubuntu> so like this 'universe' 'multiverse'
[04:29] <mumbles> ok i am still getting some dependeceys
[04:30] <lppcta> ubuntu: ye, but obviously without the '' characters
[04:30] <Solilo> mogul: Open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get install modconf'.
[04:30] <ubuntu> i see a universe word with the ' symbol what do i do with that
[04:30] <green_earz> cjs: i use bittornado-gui  and find it dose the job well. are you behind a router ? and you want the setup a p2p app ?
[04:31] <gnosticapex_> anyone know if theres an update to support the wireless on a toshiba L25-L1195?
[04:31] <ubuntu> lppcta
[04:31] <themaan> does anyone konw if mp3 players work well with linux, is it just mount and umount?
[04:31] <Solilo> gnosticapex: Couldn't find anything.
[04:31] <lppcta> ubuntu: i was using ' characters to indicate a word for you to type. you shouldn't actually add those characters. you just need the word: multiverse
[04:31] <themaan> or will it break my mp3player
[04:32] <cjs> not sure if you would call it a router... got SBCGlobal and use their 2Wire gate way thing... not sure if thats helpful to ya at all
[04:32] <LinuxJones> gnosticapex_: do lspci -v and get the make/model of your wireless card.
[04:32] <ubuntu> i see a universe with a ' in the word
[04:32] <Solilo> themaan: Varies by model, most players mount as a removable storage device.
[04:32] <needlez> themaan, i have my creative zen micro mp3 player workikng fine
[04:32] <McScruff> i put a small command in a file somewhere so it runs before X, what is the most likely file i put it in
[04:32] <themaan> I got a cheap one
[04:32] <ubuntu> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[04:32] <themaan> it is a removable storagae
[04:32] <ubuntu> see
[04:32] <themaan> what woudl the commmands be to mount it
[04:33] <brandon_> themaan: mine won't. it uses proprietary software to trancode the files into a .dat format
[04:33] <Solilo> Pretty much any MP3 player that is recognized as a UMS device works under Ubuntu, and it should be auto-mounted.
[04:33] <lppcta> ubuntu: http://rafb.net/paste/results/qBD50l86.html
[04:33] <themaan> ok
[04:33] <LinuxJones> themaan: make sure your mp3 player supports UMS (Universal Mass Storage)
[04:33] <themaan> so its not like windows where I have to unmount it
[04:33] <themaan> to keep it from breaking
[04:33] <brandon_> themaan: what kind of mp3 player do you have
[04:33] <Solilo> ^ The real question!
[04:33] <themaan> umm cheapest thing I could find
[04:33] <lppcta> ubuntu: take a look at that, you will see what i mean. it has universe, then multiverse separated by a space
[04:33] <themaan> "venturer"
[04:33] <gnosticapex_> Solilo: 0000:09:04.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001a (rev 01)
[04:33] <gnosticapex_>         Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp.: Unknown device 7094
[04:33] <gnosticapex_>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 22
[04:33] <gnosticapex_>         Memory at d0200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] 
[04:33] <gnosticapex_>         Capabilities: <available only to root>
[04:33] <themaan> 512 mb
[04:34] <themaan> lol
[04:34] <orbin> heh, just updated to ff 1.5.0.3.  is there a way to get notified when an update is available?  i only knew about the new version until someone wanted to install 1.5 in here :-/
[04:34] <brandon_> themaan: can you give me a brand name please?
[04:34] <cjs> how do you type in red like that?  You a admin of this room?
[04:34] <themaan> "venturer"
[04:34] <orbin> ubotu: tell gnosticapex about pastebin
[04:34] <Solilo> lol, well most off-brand players are UMS.
[04:34] <themaan> 1 sec
[04:34] <LinuxJones> themaan: I had to take back an IRiver T-30 2 days ago because It only worked with Windows :(
[04:35] <Solilo> Kind of ironic seeing how iRiver is one of the few companies to support OGG.
[04:35] <brandon_> themaan: as long as all you;re doing is transferring the files over to the player and not transcoding them or some such nonsense, then it should be ok
[04:35] <brandon_> sony players are right out the window
[04:35] <RossH> i had an iriver....i wasn't too happy with it *shrug*
[04:35] <themaan> ok
[04:35] <themaan> then I will try it
[04:35] <LinuxJones> brandon_: it sucks so bad you can flash the firmware but need a windows box to do it which I don't have
[04:35] <Solilo> That and the obvious no-no or unplugging the device as it's being written to. lol
[04:35] <themaan> it will only be 40 bucks to replace
[04:35] <ubuntu> http://rafb.net/paste/results/fOqtCH75.html click this lppcta
[04:35] <themaan> only 512
[04:35] <themaan> and my friend is giving me his ipod
[04:36] <orbin> cjs: is this red?
[04:36] <themaan> mini
[04:36] <brandon_> LinuxJones: i can flash my sony player's firmware? where's the instructions and software?
[04:36] <cjs> Orbin: yeah
[04:36] <orbin> cjs: when someone puts your name in their post, xchat highlights it for you
[04:36] <willis_> sony player?
[04:36] <Solilo> I doubt any harm will go to it, flash players almost always use vfat as their filesystem and that is well supported under Linux.
[04:36] <Hso> hey there ;)
[04:36] <cjs> oh cool
[04:36] <orbin> cjs: it's got nothing to do w/ whether they're an "admin" or not
[04:37] <LinuxJones> brandon_: probably on the sony website, hit google and I'm sure you'll get 10,000 pages
[04:37] <gnosticapex_> Solilo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13992
[04:37] <imperfect-> Anyone know of a music software that will be able to read iTunes databases?
[04:37] <themaan> oh no
[04:37] <brandon_> LinuxJones: i've already tried it
[04:37] <imperfect-> Just so I can manage my music in one place?
[04:37] <Solilo> Turns out that box that comes up when you insert a blank CD-R is part of Nautilus, curses.
[04:37] <lppcta> ubuntu: join the channel #ssh-1
[04:37] <themaan> I deleted all files and free space isnt clearing
[04:37] <cjs> orbin: cool thanks, learn something new every day
[04:37] <ubuntu> k
[04:37] <_harm> how do i zip a folder?
[04:37] <Hso> I'm curious, the pdf reader in ubuntu(Evince) doesn't seem to smooth out fonts correctly.. so it makes them hard to read... is there another PDF reader available for ubuntu/debian?
[04:37] <LinuxJones> brandon_: Sony sucks, do they even support .ogg ?
[04:37] <mogul> Solilo: Ok. thx. now i got modprobe. I am supposed to use it to get my broadcom 94318 wlan card working. But how? is i like i am attaching a module to the device or something?
[04:37] <orbin> cjs: yw
[04:37] <xbox_guru2> delete the files from the trash
[04:37] <xbox_guru2> your space will clear up
[04:38] <themaan> I did that
[04:38] <brandon_> LinuxJones: i believe they do, but all files are transoded using software that only works on winblows into .dat files
[04:38] <orbin> Hso: the adobe product is avialable, there's also xpdf
[04:38] <themaan> still hasnt worked
[04:38] <themaan> i tried to unmount it
[04:38] <Hso> adobe.... _
[04:38] <themaan> said it couldnt unmount
[04:38] <themaan> ahh shit
[04:38] <xbox_guru2> mabey the files weren't that big
[04:38] <Hso> i'll research xpdf, thanks!
[04:38] <_harm> !ubotu zip
[04:38] <ubotu> to unzip a .zip file type in terminal unzip file.zip   replace the word file with the name of the file. also you can man zip or man unzip for more parameters
[04:38] <ubuntu> lppcta
[04:38] <imperfect-> Hso: adobe is the way to go... reader is free. ;)
[04:38] <themaan> sthink I could just pull it out
[04:38] <lppcta> ubuntu: ye?
[04:38] <ubuntu> whats the channel again
[04:38] <Solilo> mogul: Oooh, no idea.
[04:38] <orbin> Hso: also, gpdf and gv
[04:38] <willis_> themaan,  no - thats not a good idea
[04:39] <imperfect-> Hso: if you dont like Evince, you won't like xpdf ;)
[04:39] <lppcta> ubuntu: /join #ssh-1
[04:39] <gnosticapex_> anyone know if theres an update to support the wireless on a toshiba L25-L1195? ( lspci -v lists this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13992 )
[04:39] <LinuxJones> brandon_: that is rediculous, so you can't drag and drop music or document files on there for backup ?
[04:39] <cjs> wow there is alot to this lunix / ubuntu stuff... haha got a lot of learning to do.  Could somebody point me to a newbi guide?
[04:39] <_harm> how do i zip a folder?
[04:39] <brandon_> LinuxJones: i can do that. i can use it as a file manager, BUT the mp3s will not play that way
[04:39] <LinuxJones> brandon_: ouch
[04:39] <Solilo> There was a really nice strictly-GTK PDF reader other than Evince-GTK that seemed nice but wasn't in the Ubuntu repository.
[04:40] <ubuntu> lppcta
[04:40] <themaan> there it goes
[04:40] <themaan> nevememind
[04:40] <Solilo> Aha, ePDFView. http://www.emma-soft.com/projects/epdfview/
[04:40] <themaan> well I still havent unmounted it
[04:40] <LinuxJones> _harm: right click teh folder and select create archive
[04:40] <ubuntu> lppcta
[04:41] <_harm> LinuxJones iam running terminal only :P
[04:41] <Solilo> I would put in a request to have it added to the repository but am in no mood to sign up for either the forum of Ubuntu's Launchpad.
[04:41] <ubuntu> how do i join a channel
[04:41] <themaan> it still wont unmount
[04:41] <themaan> any command line thing
[04:41] <Solilo> Type '/j #channelname' in the text field.
[04:41] <xbox_guru2> I want to update ndiswrapper to the latest version, how do I do It
[04:41] <themaan> maybe it needs root
[04:41] <themaan> like umount
[04:41] <orbin> _harm: man zip
[04:41] <orbin> _harm: personally i'd tar + gzip it
[04:41] <brandon_> themaan: there's no such command as "unmount"
[04:42] <ubuntu> where did lppcta go?
[04:42] <xbox_guru2> I have the .zip file off of sourceforge
[04:42] <_harm> orbin i got it :P zip -r zipy.zip FOLDER
[04:42] <Solilo> 'sudo umount' followed by the mount point.
[04:42] <themaan> I think htere is
[04:42] <themaan> I did it with cds
[04:42] <_harm> orbin i have to send it to some winblow users
[04:42] <brandon_> unmount is not a command
[04:42] <themaan> mount /name of hting
[04:42] <ubuntu>  Can anyone help me here
[04:42] <themaan> umount /name of hting
[04:42] <orbin> _harm: ah, lol
[04:42] <Solilo> brandon_: umount, not unmount
[04:42] <LinuxJones> _harm: zip -r folder file.zip
[04:42] <themaan> ok
[04:42] <brandon_> i'm not talking to you
[04:43] <_harm> thx :D
[04:43] <mustard5> whats a good package to install to control the look of gtk in fluxbox?
[04:43] <mundi> orbin: i installed new firefox 1.5 but still is slow as it was before with old 1.0.8
[04:43] <ubuntu> 05 I need help with this thing lppcta was explaining to me the universe multiverse thing
[04:43] <Solilo> mustard5: gtk-theme-switch
[04:43] <Trip348> hi, I installed ubuntu last night, but i encountered some problems. The intel 2200 BG wireless card isn't installed correctly and i get an error message on logon saying something like: "the local host could not be found".
[04:43] <orbin> mundi: dunno then.  works fine for me
[04:43] <mustard5> Solilo, excellent thanks
[04:43] <xbox_guru2> !ndiswrapper
[04:43] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[04:43] <mundi> hmm
[04:43] <ubuntu>  What does it mean to space universe and put in multiverse
[04:44] <themaan> are tehre any packages that I could of missed
[04:44] <themaan> that would help unmount
[04:44] <scifi> yoh guys, whats the simplest way to connect to my windows pc on my network ?
[04:44] <themaan> connect wiht the same name
[04:44] <brandon_> themaan there...is...no...such...command as unmount
[04:44] <ubuntu>  someone click this link and helpme with the universe spacing thingy http://rafb.net/paste/results/fOqtCH75.html
[04:44] <Solilo> scifi: Install samba, properly picks up on Windows shares most of the time.
[04:45] <Solilo> themaan: Tell that man you meant umount and not unmount! XD
[04:45] <themaan> sclol
[04:45] <themaan> umount
[04:45] <scifi> ok thx
[04:45] <themaan> BIATCH
[04:45] <Hso> hmm... I get exactly the same font quality in Adobe Reader as I do in Evince :(
[04:45] <orbin> mundi: what do you mean by slow anyway?
[04:45] <themaan> wait tell me about this samba
[04:45] <ubuntu>  CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:45] <themaan> the way I do my networking is I use the same name and login as one of my windows computrs
[04:46] <orbin> lol
[04:46] <LinuxJones> heh
[04:46] <themaan> lol
[04:46] <needlez> anyone here familiar with installing printer drivers? i have a canon i455 if that helps
[04:46] <scifi> themaan: huh? ^^
[04:46] <gteppel> what is the name of the printing wizard executable in ubuntu?
[04:47] <themaan> shit my printing also doesnt work
[04:47] <gnomefreak> themaan: language
[04:47] <themaan> ok
[04:47] <LinuxJones> needlez: sudo gnome-cups-manager select the closest model to your printer if it's not listed.
[04:47] <YogSothoth> Hi
[04:47] <LinuxJones> YogSothoth: welcome
[04:48] <Solilo> needlez: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-BJC-4550
[04:48] <scifi> Solilo: do i install samba or samba-common ?
[04:48] <LeeJunFan> anyone know of a util to rescue files from fat16? I've got an image of a corrupt compactflash I'm trying to restore files from.
[04:48] <Solilo> scifi: Install samba, samba-common is a dependency that will install with it.
[04:48] <scifi> k thx
[04:48] <Blindraven> How do i get the fucky system rescource side panel for ubuntu 5.10
[04:49] <Blindraven> Funky*
[04:49] <Blindraven> lol bad typo to make
[04:49] <scifi> lmao
[04:49] <Solilo> Install funky-system-resource-side-panel? :P
[04:49] <YogSothoth> I use Ubuntu and noticed that with the volume controller (alsa mixer) the sound become very noisy if I set PCM to a higher level. If I want a clear sound I have to set PCM as low as I can and set the master to the max. Why? What is PCM?
[04:49] <Blindraven> Ye know the Side panel thingy that shows mem/cpu/pagefile/bandwith etc etc
[04:49] <gnomefreak> Blindraven: gdesklets?
[04:49] <brandon_> ubuntu: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic use that to replace your sources.list
[04:49] <mustard5> Blindraven, gdesklets?
[04:49] <Solilo> Have an example?
[04:49] <mustard5> :)
[04:49] <prometoys> hi, what is the name of the application, when I use "ALT+F2" (Run Application)
[04:49] <mundi> orbin: now i know, i changed dhcp into static adress and dns server as well, and fast as it schould be
[04:49] <orbin> Blindraven: yeah, the c and n are so close aren't they? :P
[04:50] <Solilo> Most side panels are an elaborate Gdesklets configuration or a second panel.
[04:50] <matthijsl> hi, I just installed a new vidcard and my x isn't working. is there a simple way of running something to detect my new card and config x
[04:50] <mundi> orbin: now ff working fine
[04:50] <mogul> anyone know how to use modconf?
[04:50] <orbin> mundi: heh, glad you fixed it
[04:50] <scifi> Solilo: how do i execute samba ?
[04:50] <orbin> mundi: so it wasn't ff after all? :P
[04:50] <godfather> hy guys
[04:50] <Blindraven> orbin : quiet you :) i've had a few ><
[04:50] <Solilo> prometoys: gnome-run
[04:50] <orbin> Blindraven: lol
[04:50] <rohan007> hi, can anyone tell how to compile n run c programs in linux
[04:50] <Blindraven> Example - Most screen shots in Gnome-look have it
[04:50] <mundi> orbin: but i have second problem and i cannot find solution on internet ;(
[04:50] <orbin> rohan007: install build-essential
[04:51] <scifi> Blindraven: isnt that an XFCE plugin ?
[04:51] <prometoys> Solilo: no, I didn't have such program
[04:51] <godfather> i have 2 questions for you
[04:51] <scifi> Solilo: how do i run samba ?
[04:52] <matthijsl> is the only way to edit the XF86Config file myself?
[04:52] <rohan007> orbin: i m new to linux so pls tell me how to install build-essential ..
[04:52] <godfather> i have just installed my dapper drake on my laptop (theonly distro that runs onit without problems! it seems impossible!)
[04:52] <mundi> orbin: i have ET installed which is running fine but 800x600 resolution in game shows me smal screen in the bottom left corner
[04:52] <Blindraven> scifi well it can be, but i had it running years ago with a slackware install and i know people are still using it.. Iyt looks more like a XMMS plugin then a system resource panel..it just looks funky.. i want it :P
[04:52] <godfather> but
[04:52] <mustard5> rohan007, open the terminal and type in sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:52] <needlez> LinuxJones, i'm also having some kind of mouse problem. it doesnt happen all the time, but somtimes, my mouse will go super jittery, like it will just jump back and forth all over the screen :S and then it stops being able to move up and down. i can only move it side to side. and for some reason, after if is done jumping all around, i have like 7 instances of the trash can open
[04:52] <godfather> i cant't enter in windows partition
[04:52] <orbin> rohan007: sys > help > starterguide > installing apps
[04:53] <Solilo> scifi: You should be able to start it from the run box, it's a daemon that normally runs when you boot up.
[04:53] <mundi> orbin: i use 1280x800 in my laptop couse i have widescreen
[04:53] <Drac|Mac> It's been a while. Where is the Ubuntu GNOME menu logo icon located? I know it's in /usr/share/icons, but that's all I can remember.
[04:53] <orbin> mundi: sounds like fullscreen is disabled or something
[04:53] <Kr0ntab> mornin folks
[04:53] <orbin> mundi: dunno, only played et on xp
[04:53] <mundi> it is in full screen mode
[04:53] <godfather> how can i enter on it ?
[04:53] <pip> Why can't open google with firefox /
[04:53] <brandon_> godfather: your windows partition was not detected and set up automatically?
[04:53] <Blindraven> im going to try gdesklets and hope its what im after :P
[04:53] <godfather> nono
[04:54] <godfather> it is detected
[04:54] <mustard5> Blindraven, are you talking about gkrellm?
[04:54] <pip> It said no data ,why ?
[04:54] <Solilo> Blindraven: Probably is, there are some sidebar applets for gdesklets.
[04:54] <pip> My net is OK
[04:54] <brandon_> godfather: is it mounted?
[04:54] <godfather> but it tells me that i haven't the rights
[04:54] <pip> Who can help me ?
[04:54] <godfather> yes of course
[04:54] <Blindraven> mustard5 i wish i knew
[04:54] <mustard5> Blindraven, well gdesklets has lots of that type of stuff
[04:54] <pip> Is my firefox broken ?
[04:54] <godfather> only if i open a root terminal i can have access
[04:54] <Blindraven> Seems like a wise investment either way then
[04:54] <LinuxJones> needlez: have you upgraded your system since you did you install ?
[04:55] <brandon_> godfather: it's being mounted all wrong. what's the filesystem?
[04:55] <pip> Who can help me ?
[04:55] <needlez> LinuxJones, no.
[04:55] <godfather> just a moment
[04:55] <Dyngo> can anyone tell me a dock app like the one in OSX?
[04:55] <Solilo> Dyngo: emerge, gdesklets, adesklets.
[04:55] <Kr0ntab> pip, chec your proxy settings.  do any pages open up?
[04:55] <alek> hi!
[04:55] <LinuxJones> needlez: best to upgrade you system before you do anything else
[04:56] <alek> little question: at/in/on crossroad?
[04:56] <needlez> LinuxJones, how?
[04:56] <LinuxJones> needlez: sudo synaptic (enter your user password) hit the reload button, click mark all upgrades, then click apply
[04:56] <pip> Kr0ntab,I cant open google
[04:56] <orbin> alek: you sure you're in the right channnel? :-/
[04:56] <Solilo> Dyngo: Doh, when I said emerge I meant engage. lol
[04:57] <Solilo> pip: But otherwise you have no problem browsing the web?
[04:57] <pip> Kr0ntab, I can open others
[04:57] <alek> orbin, it is a ubuntu channel;)
[04:57] <pip> Solilo, Why can't I open google?
[04:57] <Dyngo> Solilo: that's ok, I was trying gdesklets first :D
[04:57] <Solilo> You don't by any chance live in China, do you? :)
[04:57] <Dyngo> Solilo: thx for those
[04:57] <gnosticapex> yay, got my wireless to work :p
[04:58] <brandon_> pip: can any other browsers open google?
[04:58] <Kr0ntab> gnosticapex, word
[04:58] <Lejban> @/wc
[04:58] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[04:58] <Solilo> pip: Seriously though, not too sure unless someone added Google to your hosts file in your sleep.
[04:58] <orbin> alek: yes, yes it is.
[04:58] <alek> orbin, if you want explanation here it is: english isnt my national lang. iam learnin english at school and i am writing a report
[04:58] <ranpha> hi, how can you go onto your normal windows network??
[04:58] <gnomefreak> alek: whats your native language?
[04:58] <rohan007> orbiN:i m tryin to install it through synaptic manager by markin it for installation but its saying insert disc labeled : ubuntu 5.10_breezy_badger
[04:58] <godfather> well windows partition has ntfs..of course
[04:58] <godfather> and
[04:58] <godfather> linux partion ext 3
[04:58] <godfather> only if i open a root terminal
[04:58] <alek> and i have a little problem and i know here are people who knows english better than me
[04:58] <godfather> i can enter in it
[04:58] <ranpha> nevermind :-)
[04:59] <orbin> alek: you should aks offtopic questions in #ubuntu-offtopic (it's either at or on the crossroads btw, depends on the context)
[04:59] <godfather> in win partion  i mean
[04:59] <alek> gnomefreak, polish
[04:59] <gnomefreak> !pl
[04:59] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:59] <Solilo> rohan007: Insert the disc you used to install Ubuntu.
[04:59] <alek> orbin, thx
[04:59] <brandon_> godfather: open the filesystem tab. sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:59] <themaan> I have am having problems wiht having two harddrives on one system, whenever I turn the computer off I have to remount the harddrive
[04:59] <rohan007> salilo:there are 3 discs which one shud i insert
[04:59] <orbin> rohan007: yeah, you could use the disk, or you could disable it so it uses the online repositories
[04:59] <rohan007> how to disable it
[05:00] <Solilo> apt-get will always try to pull packages from your install disc before making a request to the remote software repositories. And I have no idea, whiever you used. :|
[05:00] <gnosticapex> Oh crapx00r, it's mothers day isnt it >.> woops
[05:00] <orbin> rohan007: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[05:00] <Solilo> themaan: Add the mount point to /etc/fstab.
[05:00] <james_xxx> i just installed (or tried to install) ndiswrapper and related software via synaptic, but now i do not see it listed anywhere in the applications menu. would anyone have a suggestion?
[05:00] <themaan> thanks
[05:00] <orbin> rohan007: run that in a terminal
[05:00] <gnosticapex> -.- I'm a dead man
[05:00] <gnosticapex> lol
[05:00] <themaan> how would I do that?
[05:01] <Solilo> gnomefreak: Get your mother a pressed Ubuntu disc.
[05:01] <rohan007> ok
[05:01] <Blindraven> ahahah  check failed for Gcc/cc/cl/gawk and maintainer for makefiles
[05:01] <orbin> Solilo: i'm sure gnomefreak remembered *his* mother :)
[05:01] <gnomefreak> Solilo: ???
[05:01] <Blindraven> inrelation to desklets make
[05:01] <Kr0ntab> tell her ubuntu means "mothers rock" in german
[05:01] <gnosticapex> "here mom, heres ubuntu" "whats that" "WHATS WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS, WHY DONT YOU LOVE ME"
[05:02] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[05:02] <Blindraven> hmm perhaps something ubuntu *will" install without installing python and other things
[05:02] <godfather> ok
[05:02] <godfather> opened
[05:02] <Solilo> I'm no the one on the hook, woke up early and made my mom breakfast. :P
[05:02] <themaan> and there is no "fstab folder in the etc folder
[05:02] <godfather> /dev/sda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[05:02] <godfather> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[05:02] <godfather> /dev/sda2       none            swap    sw              0       0
[05:02] <godfather> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:02] <gilianima> Is there an equivalent for InDesign on Linux ?
[05:02] <orbin> !paste
[05:02] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[05:02] <LinuxJones> gilianima: what is indesign ?
[05:02] <godfather> sorry
[05:02] <james_xxx> i just installed (or tried to install) ndiswrapper and related software via synaptic, but now i do not see it listed anywhere in the applications menu. would anyone have a suggestion?
[05:02] <rohan007> orbin :the source.list file has been opened
[05:03] <gilianima> LinuxJones: I don't know
[05:03] <orbin> rohan007: you running breezy?
[05:03] <brandon_> godfather: you're connecting an external hard drive using a usb port, is that not correct?
[05:03] <Blindraven> i am yes
[05:03] <visik7> anyone know if xen will be integrated at some level in *buntu
[05:03] <rohan007> orbibn: dint get u
[05:03] <james_xxx> :-(
[05:03] <orbin> rohan007: cat /etc/issue
[05:04] <godfather> i don't understand
[05:04] <orbin> rohan007: type that in another terminal
[05:04] <LinuxJones> gilianima: umm, you just asked if ther was an equivelent for it but you don't know what the program is used for ?
[05:04] <Solilo> visik7: Yes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xen?highlight=%28xen%29
[05:04] <bzerodi> hello. any idea what package is the Human theme in ? I installed gnome afterwards in dapper and metacity complains (and hangs but I'm getting to that later)
[05:04] <brandon_> godfather: nm. here are the instructions. http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[05:04] <Solilo> Or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xen even. lol
[05:04] <LinuxJones> visik7: yeah it will be sure
[05:04] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[05:04] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[05:05] <gilianima> LinuxJones: a friend of mine asked me actually
[05:05] <LinuxJones> visik7: I think that's a goal for next release
[05:05] <james_xxx> i just installed (or tried to install) ndiswrapper and related software via synaptic, but now i do not see it listed anywhere in the applications menu. would anyone have a suggestion?
[05:05] <visik7> oh cool
[05:05] <rohan007> orbin: it displays 'Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[05:05] <LinuxJones> gilianima: let me search google 1 sec
[05:05] <rohan007> '
[05:05] <orbin> rohan007: ok, replace the contents of the source.list file with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[05:05] <needlez> LinuxJones, so i want to click on all of these (in the little box to the left of each of the update names) and click "Mark For Installation"?
[05:06] <orbin> rohan007: w/ the stuff in that link i mean, not just that one link
[05:06] <godfather> brand
[05:06] <godfather> sorry
[05:06] <Solilo> Don't suppose anyone knows of something that can generate generic GTK notification boxes where you can specify different buttons to choose from, eh? Who wants to be my hero!?
[05:06] <godfather> but i didn't tell you
[05:06] <godfather> that
[05:06] <godfather> if
[05:06] <godfather> from root terminal
[05:06] <godfather> give init 1
[05:06] <james_xxx> i guess i don't know how to ask a question in here...
[05:06] <LinuxJones> needlez: just click the button mark all upgrades
[05:06] <godfather> i get in gome desktop like root
[05:06] <themaan> how do I add a mount point to fstab?
[05:06] <Solilo> Experimenting with ivman and HAL events to duplicate that snazzy box you get in Nautilus when you insert a blank CD-R. lol
[05:07] <godfather> and in this way i have no problem
[05:07] <LinuxJones> needlez: then click apply
[05:07] <godfather> so i think
[05:07] <Geri__> hi
[05:07] <SX3> Hi
[05:07] <godfather> if is it possible have a log of root directly from gdm
[05:07] <godfather> ?
[05:07] <Solilo> themaan: Happen to know the name of the device and what filesystem it uses?
[05:07] <Geri__> how i put midnight commander to Ubuntu?
[05:07] <Solilo> godfather: Yeah, but I would advise against it.
[05:08] <gnosticapex> if I edited my sources.list when I had a console, and took off the #'s on the universe/multiverse lines, do I still need to edit the Synaptic Package Manager for some of the repositories, or did that take care of the greyed out ones in the SPM?
[05:08] <godfather> ah ok
[05:08] <Solilo> If you really need superuser privlidges for an extended period, run 'sudo -s' in a shell.
[05:08] <themaan> device
[05:08] <matthijsl> is there no tool to like "rerun
[05:08] <themaan> maxtor 6e030l0
[05:08] <LinuxJones> gilianima: >> http://lowendmac.com/designer/14.html
[05:08] <matthijsl> the x configuration again?
[05:08] <themaan> /dev/hdc
[05:08] <thecrazymonk> i'm trying to update from breezy to flight 7 and while its updating i get errors liek this: Failed to fetch http://theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/./Packages.gz 404 Not Found, i have the breezy-updates repository installed
[05:08] <Solilo> Yeah, that's what I meant.
[05:08] <themaan> extended 2
[05:08] <Geri__> i type in sudo apt-get install mc - tells no mc
[05:08] <godfather> ok
[05:08] <Geri__> midnight commander also notfound
[05:09] <gnosticapex> (trying to load gstreamer0.8-mad and it told me to edit the SPM but I should already have those universes and multiverses enabled, right?)
[05:09] <orbin> Geri__: mc is in universe
[05:09] <godfather> tnx guys
[05:09] <orbin> ubotu: tell Geri__ about repos
[05:09] <rohan007> orbin: ya i have replaced the whole content with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[05:09] <SX3> Hey, my desktop res will only go up to 1024 but i can support 1280 only at 60hz, Do I have to use sommet like Nres or xorg to fix it?
[05:09] <Geri__> thx
[05:09] <Solilo> themaan: /dev/hdc	/media/hdc	auto	defaults	0	0 <-- Add that line.
[05:09] <cjs> is there a hotkey to tab around the workstation windows?
[05:09] <orbin> rohan007: with the stuff inside that pastebin link right?
[05:09] <Solilo> Then go in a terminal and run 'sudo mkdir /media/hdc' and 'sudo mount -a'.
[05:09] <SX3> cjs, alt+tab
[05:10] <orbin> ubotu: tell SX3 about fixres
[05:10] <Solilo> After that it will be automounted everytime you boot into Ubuntu.
[05:10] <mumbles> whats up with this ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13998
[05:10] <SX3> thankyou ^_^
[05:10] <godfather> have a nice day
[05:10] <themaan> ok
[05:10] <themaan> thanks
[05:10] <cjs> sx3: alt+tab is for windows within the work stations... i mean the 4 workstations in the lower right had corrner
[05:10] <Blindraven> why do i bother browsing sites for stuff to download when i have Synaptic right here, im so stupid. I just spent 10 mins looking for desklets then realised by turning on the universe supos and looking for it it came strait up with a few plug ins aswell
[05:10] <Blindraven> *Hugs apt*
[05:11] <orbin> lol
[05:11] <SX3> cjs: ah
[05:11] <dgtlchlk> cjs: ctrl+alt+direction keys if I remember right
[05:11] <cjs> dgtlchlk: tyvm
[05:11] <dgtlchlk> yw
[05:12] <Kr0ntab> Blindraven, happens to the best of us at the beginning
[05:13] <scifi> how do i browse my windows pc now that samba is installed ?
[05:13] <cjs> scifi: did you install GRUB?
[05:13] <scifi> cjs: isnt GRUB the boot menu ?
[05:13] <Old> How do i make a folder accessable by everyone, the folder is /var/www/cstrike - i want EVERYONE to be able to download stuff from there.
[05:14] <Kr0ntab> scifi, you using gnome?  alt-f2 (run command window), type in smb://ip.address.of.windowsbox/sharename
[05:14] <rohan007> orbin : ok i got it thnx
[05:14] <cjs> but then again I guess thats not browsing now is it?  sorry I spoke too soon
[05:14] <orbin> rohan007: if you did, save and close the file. then open synaptic via sya > admin > synaptic and click on reaload on the toolbar
[05:14] <Geri__> i still not found midnight commander in sympatic's list
[05:14] <Blindraven> ok, desklets is installed, how do i bring it up??
[05:14] <Geri__> what its package's name?
[05:15] <orbin> Geri__: mc
[05:15] <gnosticapex> any suggested mp3 players for ubuntu? like is xmms supported or anything? o.0
[05:15] <orbin> !info mc
[05:15] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[05:15] <needlez> hey guys, this may seem like a dumb question, but what does this error mean? (synaptic:21068): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[05:15] <needlez> i typed in sudo synaptic, and thats what i got
[05:15] <dgtlchlk> gnosticapex: yes xmms works
[05:15] <Blindraven> Not in my menue, and it dont come up through typing "Desklets" in terminal (i know that sounds rash but i have typed so many things in terminal and it mysteriously knows what im on about :P
[05:15] <Solilo> gnosticapex: XMMS and BMP are both in the repos.
[05:15] <orbin> needlez: just run synaptic
[05:15] <dgtlchlk> as well as banshee and rhythmbox
[05:15] <Old> I want everyone to be able to download files from a specefic folder on my webserver, it's located under /var/www/cstrike , what's the command?
[05:15] <thecrazymonk> i'm trying to update from breezy to flight 7 and while its updating i get errors liek this: Failed to fetch http://theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/./Packages.gz 404 Not Found, i have the breezy-updates repository installed
[05:15] <orbin> needlez: and enter your password when prompted
[05:15] <gnosticapex> kkty
[05:16] <rohan007> orbin :its saying cud not download all repository indxes
[05:16] <mustard5> Blindraven, its gdesklets
[05:16] <scifi> kr0ntab: its internal or external ip ?
[05:16] <Blindraven> Bingo!! :)
[05:16] <Blindraven> Connected to daemon in 8199 milliseconds.
[05:16] <Blindraven> Good stuff, cheers
[05:16] <ubuntu> Hello
[05:16] <orbin> rohan007: you did something wrong w/ the sources.list file then i' guessing
[05:16] <nearfar> has anyone got their infrared working on thinkpad?
[05:16] <Old> I want everyone to be able to download files from a specefic folder on my webserver, it's located under /var/www/cstrike , what's the command?
[05:17] <gnosticapex> any suggested/recommended multimedia plugins? o.o
[05:17] <gnosticapex> This is my first linux OS so I don't know what to expect ;p
[05:17] <orbin> depends on what you're doing
[05:18] <orbin> totem-xine + w32codecs for video ... beep-media-player for audio
[05:18] <orbin> that's my setup
[05:18] <gnosticapex> kk, and what about dvd's, totem-xine and the w32 codecs read them ok?
[05:19] <orbin> ubotu: tell gnosticapex about dvd
[05:19] <Kr0ntab> scifi, sorry .. stepped away...  if you need to browse a windows machine's share... you'll need whatever valid IP the machine has.
[05:19] <gnosticapex> thanks =)
[05:19] <freakabcd> !paste
[05:20] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[05:20] <needlez> orbin, how come in synaptic some of the boxes are green?
[05:20] <scifi> kr0ntab: whats that command to list everything on my network, not sure what its ip is
[05:20] <rohan007> orbin : dont know wat to do now i m totally confused ,it is showin some packages after reloading them but not build -essential
[05:20] <crazy_penguin> is there an alternative other then man or xman to browsing the man pages?
[05:20] <orbin> needlez: help > icon legend
[05:20] <VIMmer> hi, how do I resize an ext3 partition using qtparted?
[05:20] <orbin> rohan007: you shouldn't have gotten any errors is you replaced the soruces properly.
[05:21] <VIMmer> i have some data in it which i dont want to loose
[05:21] <needlez> orbin, thank you
[05:21] <rpedro> hi, can someone tell me how/if I can defrag a FAT32 partition from Linux?
[05:21] <orbin> rohan007: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , then make a pastebin entry so i can see what you've done
[05:21] <Kr0ntab> scifi, is this machine on you own little private network?  because it's probably going to be faster to walk over to it and check it in person.
[05:21] <orbin> rpedro: easiest to just use xp's defragger imo
[05:22] <scifi> yeh :P
[05:22] <Hackmo> hey there, can anyone give me some help with firefox
[05:22] <jack1> Hackmo what u need?
[05:22] <Hackmo> everytime I try to start it up it asks me to choose my profile but when I choose my profile it says that it is already in use
[05:22] <Kr0ntab> does it open google?
[05:22] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[05:22] <Kr0ntab> j/k
[05:22] <needlez> LinuxJones, you still around?
[05:22] <Hackmo> I have tried killall firefox-bin but I still get the same error
[05:23] <Kr0ntab> inside joke.. sorry Hackmo
[05:23] <chombee> Using dapper, my root partition no longer appears in System-Administration-Disks. What's an easy way to find out how full my root partition is?
[05:23] <jack1> Hackmo yes it happened me too isnt there anoption dont ask this question wheere u can tick..
[05:23] <freakabcd> chombee, df -lh
[05:24] <jack1> Hackmo sorry i dont know more about that
[05:24] <rohan007> orbin: i have pasted on link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14000
[05:24] <chombee> freakabcd - thanks
[05:24] <orbin> rohan007: ok, looking now
[05:24] <Hackmo> jack1: yeah but that doesn't help
[05:24] <hikenboot> hello all--I was just going to blow away my ubuntu install and upgrade to hoary. but when i went to backup my data there seems to be arights issue with accessing the dvd with k3b and also with gnome baker. Other problem is I have a hard drive that tells me the device is busy when trying to mount it...there is no such mounts...any ideas
[05:24] <Hackmo> jack1: thanks anyway
[05:25] <orbin> rohan007: ok, that's all good.  now run sudo apt-get update in a terminal (close synaptic 1st if it's still open) and pastebin the output of that
[05:25] <Kr0ntab> Hackmo, you can check to see if there is a background process still running...  at terminal window type "ps -ef | grep mozilla" and "ps -ef | grep firefox"
[05:25] <archville> Hello.
[05:25] <Kr0ntab> you cna then kill the pid's and it should free up yer profile
[05:25] <thrice`> or just killall firefox-bin
[05:26] <archville> I've installed Ubuntu dapper recently.  Any way to get X-Chat working in spanish language ?
[05:26] <Kr0ntab> you can doo that too...
[05:26] <hikenboot> this is the errors i get with k3b k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry.   .... Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-hikenboot" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.....any ideas
[05:26] <rpedro> orbin: I was trying to avoid loading windows just to defragment this partition, specially since it might take sometime. And it would be quicker if there were some command I could run that would just push the files to the beginning of the partition, as really I don't need it defragment the files it's just for resizing the partition
[05:26] <archville> All aplications run in spanish but X-Chat works in english.
[05:26] <orbin> archville: i'd ask in #xchat ...or #ubuntu+1 ... or #ubuntu-es :)
[05:26] <Hackmo> Kr0ntab and thrice: killall firefox-bin doesn't help
[05:26] <gnosticapex> now to start the long process of moving my media to my laptop -.-
[05:26] <archville> Ok orbin, thanks.
[05:27] <thrice`> Hackmo, then you don't have any firefox processes running
[05:27] <gnomefreak> archville: #ubuntu+1 or #xchat i would go with #xchat first
[05:27] <thrice`> unless ps aux | grep -i firefox  shows diffrently
[05:27] <scifi> kr0ntab: ok entered correct ip and workgroup name but it cant accss it
[05:27] <archville> gnomefreak, ok.
[05:28] <Kr0ntab> Hackmo, do this
[05:28] <orbin> rpedro: i'm sorry i can only 'defrag' in the repos which funnily enough doesn't defrag fat32 it seems..i'd searcht the forum if no-one else responds in here
[05:28] <VIMmer> hello, can anyone help me with qtparted?
[05:28] <orbin> *can only find
[05:28] <Kr0ntab> cd into ~/.mozilla/firefox
[05:28] <rpedro> orbin: ok, thx
[05:28] <Kr0ntab> look for your profile directory...
[05:28] <Kr0ntab> ls -l and look for a "lock" file
[05:28] <Kr0ntab> rm lock
[05:28] <Kr0ntab> and you should be fine
[05:28] <banan> hello
[05:29] <scifi> kr0ntab:  browseable is set to "no" in share defintions, shud it be "yes" ?
[05:30] <Hackmo> Kr0ntab: thank's that worked
[05:30] <pastorius> what is "/dev/dsp: Broken pipe" because it appears when i try to run quake 3 and i have no sound
[05:30] <Kr0ntab> word
[05:31] <Calgar> hi
[05:31] <Calgar> how do i get my AC97 audio working correctly?
[05:31] <scifi> kr0ntab ?
[05:31] <Calgar> please
[05:31] <Kr0ntab> scifi, sorry mate..  are you trying to browse from linux to the windows share?
[05:31] <pastorius> calgar download drivers from realtek page!
[05:31] <Kr0ntab> or the other way around?
[05:31] <scifi> kr0ntab: yes
[05:31] <pastorius> what is "/dev/dsp: Broken pipe" because it appears when i try to run quake 3
[05:31] <thrice`> no, don't download drivers
[05:32] <konfuzed> what are these entries for any way ? ive netstat -n shows 97 of these,  /tmp/orbit-techone/linc-1d62-0-5c25279a97b15  ,   what are they for ??
[05:32] <pastorius> why?
[05:32] <thrice`> because it's build into the kernel?
[05:32] <Calgar> pastorius: uh... really?  thats it? they have linux drivers?
[05:32] <pastorius> yes
[05:32] <scifi> kr0ntab: yes linux to windows
[05:32] <orbin> rohan007: i have to go soon....
[05:32] <thrice`> sigh
[05:32] <thrice`> pastorius, how long have you been using linux?
[05:32] <Kr0ntab> ok... then you don't need to worry about configuing samba.  the common samba libraries should be enough to do what ya want.
[05:32] <Blindraven> If i wanted to get all my copies of Stargate ripped then Compress them and throw more than 4 episodes per disk, Create a custom menue and Remove the stupid intro from Every episode ,what would be a good program to get me started?
[05:33] <pastorius> few time why?
[05:33] <Kr0ntab> but there are networking considerations that need to take place first...
[05:33] <orbin> Calgar: my ac97 works fine
[05:33] <thrice`> because you don't "download drivers" on linux for common sound cards
[05:33] <orbin> exactly
[05:33] <thrice`> they are modules build from the linux kernel
[05:33] <pastorius> ok
[05:33] <Blindraven> alsaconf?
[05:33] <Calgar> orbin: ok
[05:34] <orbin> Calgar: define not working
[05:34] <scifi> kr0ntab: ok what do i ned to do ?
[05:34] <Kr0ntab> 1. ip addresses of both linux and windows need to be using the same network id and subnet mask.  2.) windows firewall needs to be off or at least be allow file sharing.  3.) you need to make sure that you have the netbios compliant protocol installed.
[05:34] <Calgar> well, standard sounds are working, but some of the games ect isnt working
[05:34] <Calgar> i think
[05:34] <Ponijs> why aren't all resolutions supported by my monitor shown in Screen Resolution?
[05:34] <Calgar> perhaps im just reading too much into it
[05:35] <Calgar> is TuxTyping supposed to have sounds?
[05:35] <Ponijs> the biggest I see is 832x624
[05:35] <Ponijs> even though it supports up to 1600x1200
[05:35] <orbin> ubotu: tell Ponijs about fixres
[05:35] <samuli> ponijs, you probably need to either manually add more resolutions to xorg.conf or sudo dpkg--reconfigure xorg-server
[05:36] <rikai> Ponijs: they weren't correctly configured, open a terminal and run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:36] <Ponijs> ok, thanks
[05:36] <Calgar> uh, another question, how do i tell if my ati mobility radeon 9700 pro is configured correctly for openGL ect?
[05:36] <banan> I have a problem with kacpid waiting for io (kernel 2.6.15-22-686) hardware is an a22p ibm thinkpad. Here we have som output from lsof and ps
[05:36] <banan> lsof: kacpid-wo 20312       root  txt   unknown                                /proc/20312/exe
[05:36] <banan> ps aux: root     20312  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        D<   13:49   0:00 [kacpid-work-1] 
[05:36] <banan> The problem seems to arise when I have pressed the volume buttons for a while. Any clues?
[05:36] <Kr0ntab> scifi, number 3 refers to the windows box.  4.) you ned to make sure you have a share defined with appropriate permissions on it to allow connections.  5.) you will need to most likely need to provide a username and password when prompted.  that shoud be in the format of windowscomputername\localwindowsusername and the password
[05:37] <benoitc> hi
[05:37] <scifi> kr0ntab: ok they both use same subnet mask, what is network id ?
[05:37] <banan> Thanks
[05:37] <benoitc> anyone know how to have antialiases shapes in pdf preview ?
[05:37] <samuli> calgar, what does flgrxinfo put out?
[05:37] <benoitc> I mean a good circle and so on ?
[05:37] <banan> btw. my ubuntu installation is dapper
[05:38] <Calgar> samuli: command not found......
[05:38] <gnomefreak> banan: try in #ubuntu+1
[05:38] <samuli> calgar.. hmm.. glxgears -info?
[05:38] <Kr0ntab> scifi lets take this one in a query
[05:38] <banan> gnomefreak: ok thanks
[05:38] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:38] <scifi> sure im there thnks
[05:38] <Kr0ntab> more off topic than anything
[05:39] <Ponijs> I get "sudo: timestamp too far in the future" when I do that, though
[05:39] <Calgar> samuli: a animation of some gears and alot of text
[05:39] <samuli> what's at few first lines.
[05:39] <samuli> is there something about mesa?
[05:40] <gnomefreak> Ponijs: you have to change the time in your bios
[05:40] <Calgar> samuli:
[05:40] <Calgar> GL_RENDERER   = Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:40] <Calgar> GL_VERSION    = 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[05:40] <Calgar> GL_VENDOR     = Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:40] <scifi> kr0ntab: pressing accept but nothing sends/receives
[05:40] <Ponijs> change it to what, gnomefreak?
[05:40] <samuli> then you haven't configured it properly.
[05:40] <gnomefreak> Ponijs: the correct time
[05:40] <gumpish> I think someone vandalized the wikipedia page for Canonical...
[05:40] <Ponijs> oh, ok
[05:40] <Kr0ntab> scifi, register with nickserv
[05:40] <scifi> ok :P
[05:40] <gnomefreak> gumpish: link please
[05:41] <Calgar> samuli: i havnt configured it AT ALL!
[05:41] <d3d1_klm> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[05:41] <Calgar> samuli: i thought it was automatic.....
[05:41] <gumpish> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canonical_Ltd.&diff=53135351&oldid=47688877
[05:41] <samuli> calgar, Hehe :)
[05:41] <gnomefreak> ty brb
[05:41] <Calgar> samuli: so, how do i configure it "correctly"?
[05:41] <samuli> is it an ati or geforce card?
[05:42] <Calgar> ati mobility radeo 9700 pro
[05:42] <slavik> ati trouble?
[05:42] <samuli> !tell Calgar about ati
[05:42] <slavik> Calgar: follow the wiki page ...
[05:42] <Calgar> slavik: ok, thanks
[05:42] <Calgar> wilco
[05:43] <MikeN> guys, little question, is there some announcement mailinglist for the packages being updated through breezy-updates ?
[05:43] <D1> I have trouble with the xorg ati driver and dri, it crashes my comp
[05:43] <Calgar> thanks alot samuli
[05:43] <D1> if thats the case, just disable dri, or use the commercial driver.
[05:43] <slavik> D1: you can disable it ...
[05:44] <samuli> Calgar, I got my 9200SE working just by simply.. sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:44] <samuli> but better make sure you have the restricted-modules though.
[05:44] <Calgar> "simply" eh
[05:44] <samuli> well.. for one line in command line it's pretty simple :)
[05:44] <NoUse> gumpish You can probably just delete that line
[05:45] <Calgar> well, thanks for the help, will look into it
[05:45] <scifi> already register kr0ntab :P
[05:45] <scifi> registered*
[05:45] <D1> !tell D1 about ati
[05:45] <Kr0ntab> scifi, join #Kr0ntab
[05:47] <gnomefreak> gumpish: its all better now
[05:48] <glimp> hi; i tried to find the new cookie installed but can't seem to find it, where should i search for it?
[05:48] <Moiana> greetings
[05:49] <Moiana> I have a pretty serious non-ubuntu-specific problem here, and would like to know if any of you could help me / point me to a channel where I would get some help: my MP3 harddisk (with a single 80GB ext2 partition) is corrupted, complaining about a bad superblock. as I would not like to lose it all, I am looking for guidance. Help, anyone? :)
[05:50] <Dyngo> how can I turn off the 'reverb control' in timidity for good?
[05:50] <d3d1_klm> oral yuk
[05:51] <d3d1_klm> yukk
[05:52] <banan> bye bye
[05:54] <konfuzed> what are these entries for any way ? ive netstat -n shows 97 of these,  /tmp/orbit-techone/linc-1d62-0-5c25279a97b15  ,   what are they for ??
[05:54] <glimp> where can i find the cookies the my browser stored? when i view it on my browser i can see it but not on the cookies.txt? need help
[05:54] <konfuzed> what is this orbit thingy
[05:55] <Ponijs> "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xorg-server is not installed"
[05:55] <oscar> hey
[05:56] <Jinkguns> Please forgive me, I have strayed from the path. I tried SuSE 10.1, only to learn that the new network manager sucks and I have the same problems with suse as with ubuntu, only suse was slower. :/
[05:57] <konfuzed> !orbit
[05:57] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, konfuzed
[05:57] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:58] <Old> how to check how much cpu/ram the server is using?
[05:58] <glimp> how can i seet cookies not to expire?
[05:58] <oscar> hey how can I watch mpeg, avi ,mp3
[05:58] <Ponijs> lol it's xserver-xorg not xorg-xserver
[05:59] <cristiano> irc.freenode.net
[05:59] <Old> how to check how much cpu/ram the server is using?
[05:59] <slavik> !tell oscar about restricted
[05:59] <Jinkguns> oscar, thats a very good question, well first your going to need to pick a media player, one that is already installed, like xine, or one that is not, like mplayer. Then your going to need codecs, special instructions to play each kind of file, including a dvd decoder if you need it.
[05:59] <Old> how to check how much cpu/ram the server is using?
[06:00] <Old> anyone, cmon?
[06:00] <robin_> weise ich habe einends
[06:00] <Old> how to check how much cpu/ram the server is using?
[06:00] <whiter> dude stop repeating yourself
[06:01] <rob_p> Old:  top
[06:01] <Old> I didnt get an answer?
[06:01] <Old> sorry, just a bit pissed off.
[06:02] <Old> I installed a phpsysinfo page
[06:02] <ponijs> damn it
[06:02] <whiter> ...
[06:02] <Old> and it shows one processor, I have 2 xeon's, how do i install the other one ?
[06:02] <whiter> he jus t answered your question
[06:02] <whiter> "top"
[06:02] <robin_> halo
[06:02] <frfx> !de
[06:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[06:02] <Old> ah
[06:02] <ponijs> reconfiguring xserver-xorg gave me 800x600 even though I selected 1024x768
[06:03] <ponijs> at least the refresh rate is correct now
[06:03] <robin_> bah
[06:03] <Old> How do i install the second processor then rob_p ?
[06:03] <robin_> bah bahbah
[06:03] <Old> looks like its not working
[06:03] <Joetheodd> I have several AVI files I'd like to burn to a DVD-RW as chapters to watch on my DVD player. How would I do that?
[06:03] <rob_p> Old:  Install?
[06:03] <spiffy> quick question, If i have windows xp and gentoo installed, (with grub) is it easy to wipe over the gentoo install and safely install ubuntu without nuking xp?
[06:04] <andy_> hi guys
[06:04] <frfx> spiffy: yes
[06:04] <Joetheodd> spiffy: Just run the ubuntu installer and wipe the gentoo partition (don't touch the windows partition) and install in the formerly gentoo partition.
[06:04] <samuli> spiffy, no :)
[06:04] <Old> rob_p, yeah whatever. I just need to get it work, configurate/setup, Im not so familiar with ubuntu :)
[06:04] <spiffy> and grub will automagically keep both booting?
[06:05] <Joetheodd> spiffy: Grub will be reinstalled and reconfigured by ubuntu.
[06:05] <andy_> if im using ndiswrapper to install my Broadcom wireless card, and i have the 64bit amd kubuntu distro. Do I use the 64bit drivers or the 32bit ones??????????
[06:05] <NoUse> Joetheodd you need to transcode them to mpeg and then you can use dvdauthor, there is a DVDAuthoring page on the wiki
[06:05] <frfx> spiffy: yes
[06:05] <azurehuesofblue> how do I "ghost" an ubuntu system?
[06:05] <gnomefreak> !ghost
[06:05] <ubotu> somebody said ghost was type /msg nickserv GHOST <name> <password>
[06:05] <robin_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaio alex
[06:05] <gnomefreak> oh ubuntu
[06:05] <whiter> what do you mean ghost
[06:05] <gnomefreak> azurehuesofblue: not sure
[06:05] <Joetheodd> NoUse: How do you transcode them?
[06:05] <spiffy> hmm...well, that was easier than I thought
[06:06] <azurehuesofblue> backup everything fully in a smaller file...
[06:06] <andy_> whiter, he means to copy bit for bit one partition to anothr hard drive
[06:06] <whiter> oh
[06:06] <whiter> dont know...
[06:06] <andy_> whiter, think norton ghot
[06:06] <spiffy> plus compress i believe
[06:06] <whiter> yea i see
[06:06] <azurehuesofblue> gnomefreak and everyone... how do you guys handle backing up?
[06:06] <rob_p> Old:  I'd guess that the OS should automatically detect multi-processors.  From there, apps that support them should already use them.  I've only got a single processor so my experience with multi-processors is basically none.
[06:06] <spiffy> so dd, gzip, and friends.
[06:06] <gnomefreak> !buckup
[06:06] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[06:06] <gnomefreak> !backup
[06:06] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311 Available packages for backing up are backuppc (web based), backup2l, backup-manager, backupninja, bkp, bacula amongst others
[06:06] <whiter> azurehuesofblue, i dont
[06:06] <andy_> whiter, if im using ndiswrapper to install my Broadcom wireless card, and i have the 64bit amd kubuntu distro. Do I use the 64bit drivers or the 32bit ones??????????
[06:06] <Mattia> ola
[06:07] <azurehuesofblue> ok thanks.
[06:07] <gnomefreak> i just burn my home dir to cd ;)
[06:07] <whiter> andy, 64bit
[06:07] <RavenTest> ubotu: If you want to ghost it's  /ghost nick password
[06:07] <ubotu> RavenTest: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:07] <Joetheodd> azurehuesofblue: "sudo cat /dev/hda > /dev/hdb" would replicate hda on hdb
[06:07] <andy_> cheers man
[06:07] <_jason> !backup =~ s/bacula/bacula, and sbackup/
[06:07] <ubotu> OK, _jason
[06:07] <azurehuesofblue> really?
[06:07] <azurehuesofblue> no shit?
[06:07] <lwizardl> how do i mount a ntfs partition
[06:07] <azurehuesofblue> I just happen to have two exact HDs
[06:07] <slackern> !ntfs
[06:07] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:08] <spiffy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Ghost for more info on "ghost"
[06:08] <Joetheodd> lwizardl: Carefully =/
[06:08] <CokeNCode> hey guys, can anyone help me with getting htis gamepad to work, it's a PiranhaPad PC by INTERACT
[06:08] <spiffy> azurehuesofblue: is the hard drive you are backing up to equal/bigger than the drive being backed up?
[06:08] <whiter> joetheodd would it also replicate the partition tables and stuff?
[06:08] <CokeNCode> i want to use it to play games in zsnes
[06:08] <Joetheodd> whiter: Yes.
[06:08] <zerby> hello can someone help me?
[06:08] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[06:09] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[06:09] <zerby> lol
[06:09] <zerby> i promised some one to help with ubuntu
[06:09] <zerby> she has lost her rootpasswd
[06:09] <zerby> is there a poss to retrieve it?
[06:09] <Old> How do i get my other intel xeon 64bit proccesor to work?
[06:09] <gnomefreak> zerby: ubuntu doesnt use root password by default
[06:09] <zerby> it is set
[06:09] <whiter> zerby
[06:09] <Joetheodd> zerby: Does she have sudo rights?
[06:09] <zerby> but her hubby ansd she are divorced ;)
[06:09] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zerby about root
[06:09] <zerby> no she doesnt
[06:10] <whiter> yea, i think she lost her login password
[06:10] <CokeNCode> drat ... this is annoying not being able to use a gamepad
[06:10] <whiter> zerby do this
[06:10] <zerby> k
[06:10] <NoUse> !lostpassword
[06:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, lostpassword is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword
[06:10] <whiter> restart the computer and when grub comes up press F2
[06:10] <azurehuesofblue> spiffy, exactly the same, I just haven't found a use for it, because I didn't know how to set up sata raid
[06:10] <ponijs> hi, I reconfigure xserver-xorg and include 1024x768 but it still isn't selectable  in Screen Resolution
[06:10] <whiter> itll set you in a root shell
[06:10] <gnomefreak> zerby: read the wiki that ubotu sent you
[06:10] <Joetheodd> zerby: as a sudoer, do sudo passwd root
[06:10] <Joetheodd> whiter, oh, then he's screwed
[06:10] <Blindraven> Question, I typed sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[06:10] <Blindraven>   in, and it worked, but i have several Windows partitions i want to view.. How might i go about doing this?
[06:10] <rob_p> ponijs:  What graphics adapter do you have?
[06:10] <spiffy> zerby: you arent screwed.
[06:10] <zerby> lol
[06:10] <ponijs> how do I check?
[06:11] <whiter> joe, if you restart and press F2 you get put in root without a password being asked for
[06:11] <rob_p> ponijs:  lspci
[06:11] <whiter> then he can delete her account and create a new one
[06:11] <Blindraven> See, i changed over to hdd1 etc but all that does it make a replica of the one it already unmasks
[06:11] <Joetheodd> whiter, oh cool
[06:11] <spiffy> or do passwd username
[06:11] <rob_p> ponijs:  Then look for the graphics adapter in the output.
[06:11] <Joetheodd> Blindraven, if they're all on the same disk, they'll be hda2, hda3, etc
[06:11] <whiter> yea @ spiffy
[06:11] <zerby> ok ill hope sudo passwd root does the job
[06:11] <Old> zerby, reboot the pc, press f2 when it reboots, press enter, choose a line with "kernel" init, press r, add init=/bin/bash on the end of the line, then press enter twice.
[06:11] <zerby> have to go, ill be back
[06:11] <Joetheodd> Blindraven, if they're on the slave disk, it'll be hdb1, hdb2, etc.
[06:11] <spiffy> zerby if not, boot f2, passwd user name
[06:11] <ponijs> ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB]  (rev 9a)
[06:12] <Blindraven> Joetheodd, ill try again, i know theres 2 hd's so yer
[06:12] <whiter> i did a dist-upgrade on dapper (xubuntu) and it installed gnome for some strange reason
[06:12] <azurehuesofblue> so if I have hda (80mb) and hdb (80mb) (the same) and do "sudo cat /dev/hda > /dev/hdb" it will just make an exact copy on B?
[06:12] <zerby> tx spiffy whiter Joetheodd
[06:12] <xbox_guru2> how do I view my kernel version
[06:12] <whiter> xbox
[06:12] <rambo3> maby you had ubuntu repos?
[06:12] <whiter> uname -a
[06:13] <Joetheodd> azurehuesofblue yes.
[06:13] <whiter> rambo, xubuntu and ubuntu use the same repositories
[06:13] <whiter> so thats probably it
[06:13] <azurehuesofblue> that rules, so say... A gets messed up... how do I get my old B back on A?
[06:13] <ponijs> rob_p, could it be that the graphics card doesn't support 1024x768?
[06:13] <rob_p> ponijs:  Now that you know what adapter you have, go to the ubuntu wiki regarding resolution (can't remember the URL... just search).  It should have some info to help you out.
[06:13] <whiter> azur, just reverse it
[06:13] <Blindraven> mount: /dev/hdd4 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[06:13] <Blindraven> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdd4 is mounted on /
[06:13] <ponijs> oh, ok
[06:13] <Joetheodd> azurehuesofblue, sudo cat /dev/hdb > /dev/hda
[06:13] <whiter> cat /dev/hdb >> /dev/hda
[06:13] <Blindraven> dosent seem to want to mount anything else
[06:13] <whiter> P
[06:13] <xbox_guru2> how do I view my kernel version, I'm trying to install the latest version on ndiswrapper
[06:13] <rob_p> ponijs:  It should support it just fine, I'd imagine.
[06:14] <Old> How do i get my other intel xeon 64bit proccesor to work? only one is working atm.
[06:14] <whiter> xbox_guru2: uname -a
[06:14] <rob_p> !resolution
[06:14] <ubotu> hmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:14] <xbox_guru2> ok
[06:14] <bbrazil> whiter: >> is append
[06:14] <azurehuesofblue> wow, so simple I couldn't see it, awesome!
[06:14] <azurehuesofblue> thnx joetheodd
[06:14] <Joetheodd> azurehuesofblue: no problem =p
[06:14] <rob_p> ponijs:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:14] <ponijs> 800x600 hurts my eyes
[06:15] <ponijs> btw, how come numlock isn't on by default even though I set it in bios
[06:16] <whiter> ponjis because it doesnt like you.
[06:16] <rambo3> linux standard
[06:16] <konfuzed> please can someone point to a link or page that actually reviews what orbit is or orbit2
[06:16] <bbrazil> ponijs: linux changes it when it boots iirc
[06:16] <ponijs> :/
[06:16] <ponijs> why do you do this, linuk!
[06:17] <bbrazil> ponijs: setleds for console, xsetleds for X
[06:17] <spiffy> konfuzed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_request_broker is what orbit2 does
[06:17] <ponijs> ok
[06:17] <kmischa> konfuzed: www.gnome.org/projects/ORBit2/
[06:17] <spiffy> ORBit2 - an object request broker (ORB) for CORBA
[06:17] <rob_p> konfuzed:  How about the project homepage:  http://orbit-resource.sourceforge.net/
[06:17] <konfuzed> ah
[06:17] <Blindraven> i did an fstab
[06:18] <valehru> does anyone else have the problems when firefox32 is installed that all the default icons are screwed.....i.e. when saving a document the icons for the drives and folders are missing to be replaced with an X in a box?
[06:18] <konfuzed> can ubuntu run with out it ??
[06:18] <Blindraven> evan though i can see its hdd7 etc, it wont mount, says the media is busy
[06:18] <Blindraven> mount: /dev/hdd7 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[06:18] <Blindraven> antonio@ubuntu:~$
[06:18] <ponijs> fuck!
[06:18] <gnomefreak> ponijs: language
[06:19] <NoUse> Blindraven is it already mounted?
[06:19] <Blindraven> ahh, i need to rename?
[06:19] <Blindraven> Well there is one mounted yes
[06:19] <Blindraven> but it aint the one i want
[06:19] <rambo3> unmount it frist
[06:19] <Blindraven> i want them all mounted
[06:19] <gteppel> what is the name of the executable for the Ubuntu "Add Printer" program
[06:19] <Blindraven> theres 3 partitionsd i have in widnows
[06:19] <Blindraven> i can copy my fstab info if you like
[06:19] <gnomefreak> cups gteppel ?
[06:19] <rambo3> yeah paste it here and use caps
[06:20] <Old> How do i get my other intel xeon 64bit proccesor to work? only one is working atm.
[06:20] <RayFredPip> Is there any good Bit downloading tool ?
[06:20] <Blindraven> this may spam
[06:20] <Blindraven> /dev/hdd7       none            swap    sw              0       0
[06:20] <Blindraven> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:20] <Blindraven> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:20] <Blindraven> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[06:20] <gnomefreak> Blindraven: use pastebin
[06:20] <RayFredPip> I think Bittorrent is limited
[06:20] <VIMmer> hi, can anyone help me with resizing an ext3 partition?
[06:20] <gteppel> gnomefreak: is it? I'm runing a linux server with out a keyboard/mouse/monitor, I'm using osx to run remote x11 apps, but i'm not sure what the app name is
[06:20] <NoUse> Blindraven don't paste in here
[06:21] <mumbles> !kde
[06:21] <ubotu> well, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[06:21] <Blindraven> sorry
[06:21] <Blindraven> gah
[06:21] <NoUse> Blindraven its in the /optic
[06:21] <gteppel> gnomefreak: executable
[06:21] <NoUse> !tell Blindraven about pastebin
[06:21] <gnomefreak> gteppel: cups allows you to add printers i think the full name is cupsys
[06:21] <CokeNCode> so, noone can help me with my gamepad ?
[06:21] <oscar> hey
[06:22] <oscar> why says error when installing w32codecs
[06:22] <NoUse> CokeNCode is it USB?
[06:22] <VIMmer> has anyone used qtparted here?
[06:22] <kmischa> konfuzed: you need orbit for gnome
[06:22] <VIMmer> i am unable to resize a partition
[06:22] <markdubi> is there a website to find network drivers?
[06:22] <NoUse> oscar because it doesn't like you
[06:22] <rambo3> Blindraven,  in terminal :  df -i
[06:22] <gteppel> gnomefreak: I can't find a executable called cupsys, I know what cups is, but isn't there a ubuntu app under System / Admistration somewhere that is a wizard?
[06:22] <konfuzed> kmischa, I was just finding out that esentially gnome is dependent on orbit
[06:23] <CokeNCode> NoUse, nah, it plugs into the joystick port
[06:23] <Old> How do i get my other intel xeon 64bit proccesor to work? only one is working atm.
[06:23] <Blindraven> no worries
[06:23] <gnomefreak> gteppel: there should be it should be under system>admin>printing
[06:23] <Old> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1015739#post1015739
[06:23] <oscar> how's that
[06:23] <NoUse> CokeNCode have you run any calibration tools?
[06:23] <gteppel> gnomefreak: could you find out what exectuable its linking to? I only can run remote x11 apps, not a whole login session
[06:24] <CokeNCode>  NoUse , yeh ... jscalibrate
[06:24] <Blindraven> rambo3 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14005
[06:24] <kmischa> old: what is in /var/log/dmesg ?
[06:25] <konfuzed> how ever being intended primarily for network based data transfers, is this a common problem or perhaps a common indicator of their being excess(likely unwanted) transfer activities from this workstion?   netstat - n shows 97 orbit-user file references
[06:25] <luke> my sound doesn't work and kmix says "Mixer cannot be found", how do I fix?
[06:25] <CokeNCode> NoUse, jscalibrator says "unable to open joystick"
[06:25] <CokeNCode> /dev/js0 is there tho
[06:25] <luke> my sound doesn't work and kmix says "Mixer cannot be found", how do I fix?
[06:25] <CokeNCode> NoUse, do i need to do a modprobe or something ?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> gteppel: i think its /usr/bin/gnome-cups-manager
[06:26] <rambo3> Blindraven, you have 3 disks mounted in same map . is it RAID  * ?
[06:26] <xbox_guru2> i'm having trouble updating ndiswrapper and its pissing me off
[06:26] <gteppel> gnomefreak: thanks! :)
[06:26] <Blindraven> rambo3 - no
[06:26] <gnomefreak> gteppel: yw
[06:26] <mumbles> ok how do i install kde ?
[06:26] <kuja> mumbles: sudo apt-get install kde?
[06:26] <artist> yep
[06:27] <luke> go into Adept and select alll of the kde packages...
[06:27] <samuli> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <samuli> or kde or kde-core
[06:27] <kuja> Well that's if you want kubuntu
[06:27] <gnomefreak> mumbles: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <RayFredPip> in there any BIt downloading tool ?
[06:27] <kuja> Speaking of kubuntu, I need to remove that ugly usplash :P
[06:27] <xbox_guru2> not only that but when I try to install anything it always says directory or file doesn't exist
[06:27] <rambo3> thats weard . so whats the problem now again . btw you ll have to fix that to mount in separate maps i think , i am not sure
[06:27] <Old> kmischa, let me check
[06:27] <NoUse> CokeNCode I've only used USB ones which are a little easier :-)
[06:27] <CokeNCode> AW nuts
[06:27] <gnomefreak> kuja: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash.so   iirc
[06:28] <Old> what do you need to know kmischa ?
[06:28] <CokeNCode> NoUse, what do you do with a usb one ?
[06:28] <xbox_guru2> is there an alternative to ndiswrapper that I can use for my usb wireless adapter
[06:28] <sladen> xbox_guru2: the normal driver in the kernel?
[06:28] <xbox_guru2> that has wep support
[06:28] <sladen> xbox_guru2: what's the card?
[06:28] <kuja> gnomefreak: Thanks.
[06:28] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:28] <xbox_guru2> Netgear wg111v2
[06:29] <xbox_guru2> it came with all widows drivers
[06:29] <rambo3> alternative is called cable and ethernet card
[06:29] <kmischa> old: if your kernel detects the other cpu
[06:29] <mumbles> gnomefreak i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14006 when i do that
[06:29] <xbox_guru2> well unless i want to drill holes in the floor
[06:29] <Old> kmischa, how do i check that ?
[06:29] <sladen> xbox_guru2: linux has the drivers built in;  what happens if you just plug the card in?
[06:29] <Old> there's lots of text init
[06:29] <xbox_guru2> nothing happens
[06:30] <sladen> xbox_guru2: USB one?
[06:30] <xbox_guru2> yes
[06:30] <markdubi> the network card on my hp zx5000 laptop did not intsall automatically
[06:30] <markdubi> how do i get the driver and install it
[06:30] <kmischa> old: cat /var/log/dmesg | less and search for CPU0  and CPU1
[06:30] <xbox_guru2> netgear doesn't provide linux drivers either
[06:31] <Old> i typed: cat /var/log/dmesg | less
[06:31] <Old> cant seem to see any "CPU" , let me look more.
[06:31] <sladen> xbox_guru2: http://www.google.com/search?q=+site:www.ubuntuforums.org+wg111v2+ubuntu
[06:31] <xbox_guru2> sladen: what can I do?
[06:31] <h3h_timo> how can you make samba available without needing a password?
[06:32] <Old> kmischa, [4294677.810000]  ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1] )
[06:32] <scifi> h3h_timo: i dont use a password with samba
[06:32] <Blindraven>  No raid, i have likely accidently mounted it three times, which explains the windows, 1 and 2 and 3 sitting on my desktop all leading to the same drive :P
[06:32] <Old> that's the only text in the file that includes "CPU" init
[06:33] <kmischa> old: do you use the ubuntu smp kernel? => uname -a
[06:33] <h3h_timo> well, is it automatically set up so that you need one to view the files you have on ur samba share?
[06:33] <Old> root@server:~# uname -a
[06:33] <Old> Linux server 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:33] <Old> kmischa
[06:34] <Old> Im not a pro at ubuntu at all, Kinda new to it. It'd be great if I'd get the intel xeon's to work togheter.
[06:34] <ramvi> Heya, when mounting a ntfs partition, what do I type to get write permission?
[06:34] <rambo3> Old what are you trying to do , CPU info is in proc
[06:34] <SAM_theman> yo hommies
[06:34] <Old> rambo3, Im trying to get my second intel xeon to work :(
[06:34] <h3h_timo>  scifi, well, is it automatically set up so that you need one to view the files you have on ur samba share?
[06:34] <xbox_guru2> now how do I install the driver
[06:35] <xbox_guru2> I finished downloading it
[06:35] <SAM_theman> Old u have a dual core processor?
[06:35] <Old> I'd be sooooooo greatful if i can get it to work without having to reinstall everything
[06:35] <SAM_theman> i do to
[06:35] <rambo3> ok, and smp is on?
[06:35] <Old> No, just 2 plain intel xeon 3.0's 64bits
[06:35] <kmischa> old: install the ubuntu smp kernel
[06:35] <slackern> Old: i belive you need to install a 686 kernel i belive, that has smp enabled.
[06:35] <Old> how todo that guys?
[06:35] <Old> Like i said, Im very new to ubuntu, specially this stuff.
[06:35] <rambo3> just search repos for that kernel old
[06:36] <Old> huh rambo3 ?
[06:36] <xbox_guru2> sladen: I got the zip file, how would I go about installing the driver
[06:36] <scifi> h3h_timo: maybe i mis-understood ur question, ive only set-up samba to connect to my windows pc, which is running XP and no password
[06:36] <Old> But if i install this kernel, can it screw it all up? I mean, litterly...crashing the server?
[06:36] <SAM_theman> O well i have a 3800+ X2 Dual Core
[06:36] <mwe> Old: what processor?
[06:36] <SAM_theman> and I am on a i386
[06:36] <kmischa> old: in aptitude you select the linux-image-2.6.12.9-686-smp
[06:36] <Old> intel xeon 3,0 64bits
[06:36] <h3h_timo> oh, yeah... i want to set it up so i can view files on my computer here... from my windows computer or from my modded xbox
[06:36] <mwe> Old: sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[06:36] <slackern> Old: 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp'  should do it i belive
[06:37] <SAM_theman> how i get the dual core processor kernel?
[06:37] <Old> this would make my second procs to work - do i need a reboot?
[06:37] <scifi> h3h_timo: ok sorry cant help u there
[06:37] <kmischa> old: yes, reboot
[06:37] <slackern> Old: yes, it will give you one more kernel at bootup to choose from.
[06:37] <nodabba80>   Is there a way to "watch" an NFS mount and attempt to remount if it's down?  I have box B that mounts a partition on box A via NFS.  however, box A reboots much slower than box B, so sometimes I have the case where the NFS mount doesn;t mount.  I tried using the retry=X value in the /etc/fstab, but that doesn't seem quite right
[06:37] <Old> oh no, wait.
[06:37] <xbox_guru2> does anyone know how I install linux drivers on ubuntu
[06:37] <slackern> hmm he might need restricted drivers too?
[06:37] <Cryptid> How do i get write permission to Windows  Fat32 Drives
[06:37] <Old> Im using putty, I cant access the server atm, I can, but i will have to go to our server room then.
[06:37] <h3h_timo> !samba
[06:37] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[06:37] <Cryptid> !Fat
[06:37] <ubotu> it has been said that fat is Hey, you need to lose some weight ;)
[06:38] <Old> Is there a way to access this "new" kernel trough putty?
[06:38] <ponijs> so I did everything said in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto and I'm still stuck in 800x600
[06:38] <slackern> Old: i belive it will be the default in grub after you install it.
[06:38] <ramvi> How do I get write permission to a ntfs partition? I've got ntfsmount
[06:38] <Old> great! :)
[06:38] <slackern> so if you reboot it will try to boot from it.
[06:38] <Old> Let me try it.
[06:38] <slackern> otherwise you need to do some walking :p
[06:38] <Old> so, this is 100% that it wont screw up my server at all? So it wont boot or something?
[06:38] <Old> I have10min to my server, but i feel like taking a break from going to the server room constantly today.
[06:39] <kmischa> old: yes, if it does not work, it does not boot!
[06:39] <mumbles> kubuntu-desktop
[06:39] <mumbles> kubuntu-desktop
[06:39] <slackern> You  still have the old kernel to boot from worst case go there and select the other kernel in grub and boot from it.
[06:39] <mumbles> ?
[06:39] <mumbles> gnomefreak i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14006 when i do atp-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:39] <MikeN> retry... is there some announcement mailinglist for the packages being updated through breezy-updates ?
[06:39] <ponijs> would installing the proprietary ATI drivers help?
[06:39] <xbox_guru2> once i install the driver how do I connect to my network
[06:39] <xbox_guru2> i have wep
[06:39] <MikeN> breezy-updates want to update my libc, want to know what has changed etc.
[06:39] <Old> if i told you what version of ubuntu i installed in the beginning, would it give you some info?
[06:40] <Old> ((the .iso file i used, i mean))
[06:40] <rambo3> 10 minutes old? i file like givining you forkbomb instructions
[06:40] <Old> :p
[06:40] <Seveas> rambo3, great way to get banned
[06:40] <mwe> xbox_guru2: read the wifi wiki
[06:40] <Old> ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso <- that's what i installed.
[06:40] <Old> In the beginning
[06:40] <slackern> Old: it doesn't matter.
[06:40] <Old> ok mate
[06:40] <Old> trying now
[06:41] <slackern> they don't have a special smp enabled install so you will need to change it manually
[06:41] <slackern> not as far as i know atleast :p
[06:41] <ponijs> how do I get the proprietary ati drivers?
[06:41] <Seveas> !fglrx
[06:41] <ubotu> fglrx is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:41] <Seveas> ^-- ponijs
[06:41] <SAM_theman> how do i find out on line what type of motherboard I own?
[06:41] <ponijs> thanks
[06:41] <Seveas> SAM_theman, look at the manual
[06:41] <Old> OK guys, another question. After i've installed this, how do i check that my other intel xeon is working ?
[06:42] <Old> rebooting now.. :(
[06:42] <Seveas> Old, /proc/cpuinfo should list 2 cpus
[06:42] <Seveas> uname -a should say SMP
[06:42] <kmischa> Old: you can find the information in /var/log/dmesg
[06:42] <slackern> i belive even running 'top' will show 2 cpus
[06:42] <Calgar> could somone help me please? i just installed flash using the automated flash installer in firefox, but when i ran the app i was trying to run, none of the text showed up, any ideas how to fix this? please?
[06:42] <Old> ok guys, it's rebooting now. hopefully it'll work
[06:42] <SAM_theman> my dad has it
[06:42] <Old> meanwhile it's rebooting i'd like to thank you guys for helping me out :)
[06:42] <SAM_theman> but hes busy
[06:42] <Old> highly appriciated.
[06:43] <SAM_theman> he checking out SUSE 10.1 with the new nvidia driver
[06:43] <SAM_theman> *hes
[06:43] <scorp82> anyone here using Linux DC++?
[06:43] <rambo3> Old smp , as long as you dont have some wifi drivers that may crash it
[06:43] <Blindraven> i dont recall ever setting a root password for this installation. I type in su root ****** and it just fails me. Any answers?
[06:43] <Old> I dont know what wifi is, so i guess i dont have it :)
[06:44] <Blindraven> wireless
[06:44] <slackern> hehe, it's radiolan old :)
[06:44] <SS2> *g*
[06:44] <Old> :-)
[06:44] <scorp82> I'm having a little problem with it...
[06:44] <wirespot> random crashes in various apps and "internal compiler error" during compilation --> bad RAM stick?
[06:44] <slackern> darn i want a smp machine too *sulks*
[06:44] <SS2> Old: if you don't know what it is, then you don't need it ;)
[06:44] <Seveas> !tell Blindraven about root
[06:44] <Old> :-)
[06:44] <harisund> do you know where I can get the 'latest' dapper from?
[06:44] <Old> exactly, that's how it's its said :)
[06:44] <Old> -its
[06:44] <mconley> hello i have program install problems
[06:45] <Old> it booted! :D
[06:45] <Seveas> !dapper
[06:45] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:45] <mpmc> lol
[06:45] <kmischa> Old: yeah, you feel now the power :-)
[06:45] <Old> I did a nano /proc/cpuinfo
[06:45] <Old> it said "processors: 0" on the top
[06:45] <Old> it says 2 now :o
[06:45] <harisund> Seveas, that page only takes me to a mailing list email. Where can I get the iso's from?
[06:45] <Old> I have a few lines with proccesors: but oh well..
[06:45] <Blindraven> coo, new version of ubuntu one day before Killswitch engage come to sydney :P
[06:46] <Old> how am i 100% to check that theres 2 working proccesors now ?
[06:46] <mconley> how can a package bee ther and yet not be there
[06:46] <Seveas> harisund, the latter part "join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support"
[06:46] <Old> It says 4 processors on my phpsysinfo page; http://dust2.mine.nu/sysinfo/
[06:46] <slackern> old: try running 'top'
[06:46] <rambo3> grep lshw for cpu
[06:46] <ponijs> http://fatalis.way.lv/misc/poniponi.jpg
[06:46] <ponijs> how do I look?
[06:46] <kmischa> Old: it is ok: 2 Xeons with HT
[06:46] <Old> So it's working? :D
[06:46] <Seveas> ponijs, scary and horribly offtopic
[06:47] <kmischa> Old: yes
[06:47] <Old> :))
[06:47] <ponijs> Seveas, good
[06:47] <Old> slackern, I dont understand a jack-shit on that "top" thing tbh.
[06:47] <Blindraven> So, is it possible to have all my windows partitions mounted at the same time?
[06:47] <Old> Cpu(s): 0.0% us, 0.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 100.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
[06:47] <Old> is that's anything that gives me info about the procs?
[06:47] <bbrazil> Blindraven: there's an upper limit, but you;'re very unlikey to hit it
[06:48] <Blindraven> bbrazil, only dealing with 3
[06:48] <Seveas> Old, it means your machine is having an easy time
[06:48] <Blindraven> only seem to be stuck only being able to mount one
[06:48] <Old> :-o
[06:48] <Old> wonder how much the cpu will go up by when i setup the servers then.
[06:48] <fourat> !sata
[06:48] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fourat
[06:49] <bbrazil> Blindraven: just mount them in different places
[06:49] <kmischa> old: it depends but if you do make -j 32 it should go up :-)
[06:49] <Blindraven> bbrazil, How does one do that?
[06:49] <Ademan> hey last night someone told me to rename my ~/.mozilla to something else and let firefox automatically replace it.  Anywho I was trying to get my bookmarks back, and I found ~/.mozilla/<randomstring>.default/Bookmarks.html and it seems to be an xml file containing my bookmarks, however, there is a lot of "garbage" in there, and i dont understand why, does everyone else have that? or what?
[06:49] <Old> Im not testing anything that screws up my server again, lol :)
[06:50] <bbrazil> Blindraven: what I do: sudo mkdir /windows/{1,2,3}
[06:50] <bbrazil> Blindraven: then mount /dev/hda1 /windows/1 etc.
[06:50] <Old> kmischa, another question, a final one. Could you help me with "aliases" for starting up counter-strike servers (game-servers)
[06:50] <Blindraven> ahhh i think i may have just tryed that and it said permission denied
[06:50] <Old> or make them boot on start up ?
[06:51] <Blindraven> hence my root question which i later found out isnt happening :)
[06:51] <Old> by aliases i mean, ex ./server1 - then it starts up /home/cs1 screen ./hlds_run -game cstrike +maxplayers 12 +map de_dust2 -port 27015 for an example.
[06:51] <Blindraven> ahh wait i forgot the sudo :)
[06:51] <Blindraven> i think anyway ><
[06:51] <kmischa> Old: I'm sorry i do not play, only hardware :-)
[06:51] <Old> yeah, but it's aliases :(
[06:51] <Old> A bash script(?)
[06:51] <Old> not sure what's it called.
[06:53] <kmischa> Old: yes, a bash script, look for counter-strike newsgroups
[06:53] <Old> where?
[06:53] <kmischa> Old: google?
[06:53] <Old> ok
[06:53] <kmischa> Old: :-)
[06:53] <Old> :-p
[06:53] <Old> Im probably the dumbest person here.
[06:54] <rambo3> old  alias monkey='echo " i am a monkey"'
[06:54] <Old> :'(
[06:54] <McNutella> lol
[06:54] <scorp82> old: don't be so sure!
[06:54] <scorp82> :-)
[06:54] <Old> :-(
[06:55] <Old> oh nevermind; i've googled for these things before, but i couldnt find anything that works 100%, I've looked at it a bit. Someone told me to ex put the bash files in /var/bash or something like that, perhaps bin/bash then try to load the script
[06:55] <rambo3> so you can change monkey to server1 and rest of functions you join with &&
[06:55] <Old> but it didnt work...
[06:55] <Old> rambo3, could you give me an example of this:
[06:55] <scorp82> I've got a little problem with Linux DC++...
[06:55] <scorp82> anyone?
[06:56] <Old> if i type /server1 it should load screen ./hlds_run -game cstrike +maxplayersr 12 +map de_dust2 -port 27015 in the dir /home/cs1
[06:56] <rambo3> alias upgrae='sudo apt-get update && sudo-get upgrade'
[06:56] <scorp82> It just crashes...
[06:56] <Old> nice one rambo3, Im so adding that :)
[06:56] <Old> alias upgrae='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' *
[06:56] <Old> :)
[06:57] <NoUse> scorp82 if you ask a question we
[06:57] <mconley> i have a package that depeds on packages that are alredy installed and complains that the dependancy packages cannot be installed and fails to install my package
[06:57] <NoUse> scorp82 if you ask a question we'll have a better chance of answer it
[06:57] <Old> rambo3, any ideas of how to get my my alias to work? -> if i type /server1 it should load screen ./hlds_run -game cstrike +maxplayersr 12 +map de_dust2 -port 27015 in the dir /home/cs1
[06:58] <_atle_> so, sitting in my garden typing to you all, first time i've got my wireless to work in linux. this is great. now i will surely use it a bit more then i have been.
[06:58] <Old> then deattach it automatically
[06:58] <Old> i owe you one then :)
[06:58] <scorp82> well, I start it, it runs for few minutes, sometimes an hour or so, but then it just turns off...
[06:58] <mconley> help
[06:58] <scorp82> any ways to get some error repports somewhere?
[06:58] <rambo3> dont use /server1 just server1. and use full path
[06:58] <ponijs> how come skype looks so ugly on ubuntu :)
[06:59] <RobNyc> !mp3
[06:59] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:59] <NoUse> scorp82 does it have logs you can check, I"ve never used it
[06:59] <mconley> help
[06:59] <notes> Anybody know ? "E: Couldn't find package compriz" when I used command "sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome"
[06:59] <rambo3> alias server1='home/cs1/./hlds_run "-game cstrike +maxplayersr 12 +map de_dust2 -port 27015"'
[06:59] <scorp82> don't know... (i've used linux for two months or so)
[07:00] <scorp82> where should I look at?
[07:00] <eggzeck> notes, means you need to have the right repos
[07:00] <rambo3> i think not sure about /./ never ran it outside of dir
[07:00] <Old> hmmh
[07:00] <Old> will that work as a screen command and automatically deattach it aswell rambo3 ?
[07:00] <NoUse> notes thats a dapper issue, you might try asking in #ubuntu+1
[07:00] <scorp82> ok thanks...
[07:01] <eggzeck> notes, I can tell you one thing, it's not even in multiverse/universe
[07:01] <roe> anyone happen to know if the fglrx driver supports independent resolutions for a dual head?
[07:01] <notes> Nouse & eggzeck: ok, thx :)
[07:01] <scorp82> same kind of a problem with Rhytmbox...
[07:01] <Blindraven> gah, no luck.. oh well
[07:01] <thomasM> hey guys, i need help changing the permissions of my njb mp3 player, but i don't know where/which file to chmod. Can somebody point me in the right direction?
[07:02] <NoUse> thomasM where is it mounted?
[07:02] <thomasM> its not a mass storage device, so i don't know.
[07:02] <echelon-h> whe will the new relesase be out?
[07:02] <rambo3> no idea, search google
[07:03] <Old> was that to me rambo3 ?
[07:03] <rambo3> yes
[07:03] <ponijs> I just installed skype and it displays with HUEG fonts
[07:03] <ponijs> for some reason
[07:03] <NoUse> thomasM when you plug in the device, run dmesg and see if it indicates where its located
[07:03] <thomasM> NoUse: thankyou, one second
[07:04] <Old> -bash: home/cs/warservers/speedlink/./hlds_run: No such file or directory
[07:04] <Old> root@server:~#
[07:04] <Old> thats what i got
[07:04] <mconley> um hello i have a bager that dont like packeages
[07:04] <minimec> Hi folks. It seems like the mldonkey-package of dapper has a bug in the configure Part. Now I cannot remove the package again. I tried apt-get -f remove, aptitude remove, dpkg -r, dpkg -P. How can I remove this f...... package?
[07:04] <ponijs> anyone know how to make skype display with normal fontsize?
[07:04] <minimec> mldonkey-server.deb ;)
[07:04] <NoUse> mconley bager?
[07:04] <mconley> i dosent ant to install packages
[07:05] <mconley> bagger
[07:05] <NoUse> mconley badger?
[07:05] <thomasM> NoUse: usb 5-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
[07:05] <NoUse> mconley can you pastebin the output of the error?
[07:05] <doodle> has anyone here run ubuntu live CD on a laptop..i'm having problems..
[07:05] <NoUse> !tell mconley about pastebin
[07:05] <rambo3> Old use cd /dir/dir/ && ./program instead
[07:06] <NoUse> thomasM anything else show up/
[07:06] <mconley> i have a package that depeds on packages that are alredy installed and complains that the dependancy packages cannot be installed and fails to install my package
[07:06] <siccness> Is Linux or Ubuntu designed to use up RAM?
[07:06] <mconley> oops hold on
[07:06] <NoUse> siccness it caches unused memory
[07:06] <siccness> Thought so.
[07:06] <mconley> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:06] <mconley>   emc2: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable
[07:06] <mconley>         Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not installable
[07:06] <mconley>         Depends: libgtk1.2 but it is not installable
[07:06] <Old> rambo3, woot it worked ;)
[07:06] <minimec> mconley: try apt-get -f install yourpackage
[07:06] <NoUse> mconley don't paste in here
[07:06] <JinRoh> I have changed the time (it was 2 hours wrong) and now alvaro@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s
[07:06] <JinRoh> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 14 21:05:03 2006
[07:06] <mconley> but thay are alredy installed
[07:06] <thomasM> NoUse: did that help you?
[07:06] <NoUse> mconley ubotu sent you think link for pastebin
[07:06] <Old> rambo3, any idea of how to deattach it automatically?
[07:06] <ponijs> found it
[07:07] <NoUse> thomasM not really, did anything else get listed?
[07:07] <siccness> What's interesting is that, 3 days ago, i run memtest86..perfect, not an error. I do it 5mins ago and I get a 21 errors in test#3
[07:07] <scorp82> gotta go... bye!
[07:07] <thomasM> NoUse: um lots of stuff.
[07:07] <NoUse> thomasM pastebin it
[07:07] <NoUse> !tell thomasM about pastebin
[07:07] <rambo3> Old i dont know how to deattach . paste some example
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> siccness,  may want to remove/reseat the ram and test again
[07:07] <NoUse> mconley where did you get the emc2 package?
[07:08] <siccness> Dr_Willis: So it's probbaly not good to leave my computer running?
[07:08] <mconley> www.linuxcnc.org
[07:08] <siccness> (cuz I can't really remove/resit ram atm)
[07:08] <thomasM> NoUse: http://pastebin.com/717146
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> siccness,  my bet is that if the ram is having issues.. you may be crashing more often.. and could get all sorts of odd errors
[07:08] <Old> rambo3, this is what the alias looks like: alias server1='cd /home/cs/warservers/speedlink && ./hlds_run "-game cstrike +maxplayers 12 +map de_dust2 -port 27015"' - i want to deattach it automatically aswell
[07:09] <mwe> no
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> siccness,  so how imporntant is the work that its doing right now. :P
[07:09] <siccness> No crashing issues whatsoever. Infact, feels pretty good.
[07:09] <siccness> Just curious to know why memtest always has a bitch
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> siccness,  currupted data files - can be annoying as well.
[07:09] <siccness> Yeah, nothing corrupted.
[07:09] <siccness> Checked all that.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> siccness,   nothing that youve seen yet. :P
[07:09] <rambo3> Old you mean run it in the background ?
[07:09] <Old> Yeah
[07:09] <Old> exactly
[07:09] <siccness> Dr_Willis: True, but I had my old memory chip run with errors for 2yrs and not a problem.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> siccness,  could swap the ram chips around and see if the problem follows the chip or the socket.
[07:10] <rambo3> you can search google for job controll linux
[07:10] <NoUse> thomasM what kind of permission issues are you having/
[07:10] <siccness> Dr_Willis: Can't even boot properly in othe other 2 slots
[07:10] <rambo3> anyhow if you put & at the end it should do the trick
[07:10] <siccness> DFI Motherboads are a joke.
[07:10] <Kr0ntab> heya folks
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> siccness,  ya just got the 1 ram chip?
[07:10] <siccness> 2
[07:10] <jramsey> my asus mb is just fine; ubuntu installed wo prob.
[07:10] <siccness> OCZ Performance Dual Channel.
[07:10] <Old> kk rambo3, let me try
[07:11] <siccness> (2x512)
[07:11] <thomasM> NoUse: i'm not sure, but i've been talking to the banshee guys, and they're telling me its permissions. It seems that in some circumstances writing to the player crashes banshee, while other times it doesn't.
[07:11] <NoUse> mconley please pastebin (not paste) your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[07:11] <Joetheodd> Hey, my desktop won't show up at all. The menus and stuff do, but no icons and no wallpaper.
[07:11] <jramsey> mconley, www.pastebin.ca
[07:11] <Kr0ntab> !paste
[07:11] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[07:11] <NoUse> thomasM I've never used a njb so I'm not sure where its located
[07:11] <thomasM> NoUse: gnomad2 has to be started as root to run correctly, also confirming the bad permissions idea.
[07:11] <jramsey> lotso paste spots
[07:12] <Kr0ntab> yup
[07:12] <thomasM> NoUse: will it say in the device manager?
[07:12] <NoUse> thomasM possibly
[07:13] <thomasM> NoUse: as in /sys/devices/
[07:13] <thomasM> NoUse: say i find it. what do i do to change the permissions?
[07:14] <NoUse> thomasM it would be in /dev/ I think
[07:14] <NoUse> thomasM chown to change ownership, chmod to change permissions
[07:15] <thomasM> i'd want to chmod.
[07:15] <thomasM> k thanks.
[07:15] <tony007> hi, can any one tell me the plugins used to play audio n video files in linux] 
[07:15] <Old> rambo3, this is how it looks now: it's still giving me the echo's, i think it's bugging...
[07:15] <Old> alias slwar='cd /home/cs/warservers/speedlink && ./hlds_run "-game cstrike +maxplayers 12 +map de_dust2 -port 27031 -secure -command update" &'
[07:16] <ponijs> how do I know which ubuntu I'm running?
[07:17] <NoUse> ponijs run 'lsb_release -a'
[07:17] <ponijs> thanks
[07:18] <rambo3> it looks ok . what echo?
[07:18] <Old> whats the url for pastebin?
[07:19] <NoUse> !tell Old about pastebin
[07:19] <tony007> pls tell me the plugins used to play audio n video files on linux
[07:19] <NoUse> !tell tony007 about restricted
[07:19] <Old> ok, one sec
[07:19] <doodle> i use vlc tony...
[07:20] <nullified> Guys, Can i plug a HDD to a IDE cable and a power cable whilst the PC is still on and mount it in the OS without restarting the machine?
[07:20] <tony007> from where i'l get vlc doodle
[07:20] <tony007> wats vlc?
[07:20] <ponijs> why is ati linux driver setup so slow
[07:20] <Old> rambo3, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14014
[07:20] <NoUse> nullified I wouldn't recommend it
[07:20] <ponijs> vlc is a media player
[07:20] <nullified> NoUse: Whys that?
[07:20] <Old> you see im trying to type "status" there, i did a typo, however, it still shows the text after i deattached it ?
[07:20] <NoUse> nullified you want a list?
[07:21] <nullified> Sure
[07:21] <Old> and when i quit the server, the text appears, "server quit" - rambo3.
[07:21] <tony007> ponijs: can it run all media files like 3gp n all
[07:21] <thomasM> hotswap....
[07:21] <thomasM> u should unmount the drive you are disconnecting first.
[07:21] <ponijs> tony007, probably
[07:21] <NoUse> nullified the bios usually detects drives at boot, so it probably wont work, then, if the power cable connects odly you could give your HD a nice electric shock effectively killing it
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> Been there, done that NoUse  :P
[07:22] <tony007> ok where i can get this media player ponijs
[07:22] <nullified> fdisk -l doesnt show the HDD and CD drive so bios must not had picked it up
[07:22] <nullified> have to restart my machine :-(
[07:22] <doodle> does anyone have any experience running ubuntu on laptops?
[07:22] <NoUse> doodle yes
[07:22] <jramsey> doodle, what is ur prob?
[07:23] <myfunny> !w32codecs
[07:23] <doodle> well.. the momen tubuntu starts X... it hangs..( the live CD)
[07:23] <ponijs> how come japanese characters display fine in skype for me but latvian don't
[07:23] <ponijs> is it because it's a kde app?
[07:23] <rambo3> Old i know 0 about HL servers , you ll have to ask somone who knows. i am guessing that its not confgured
[07:23] <Old> rambo3, no no - that's not the thing.
[07:24] <jramsey> doodle, ur not interested in installing ubuntu on ur laptop but only running live cd?
[07:24] <doodle> my lap has.. 512 MB ram.. and intel centrino 1.73.. i still dont understand why it hangs
[07:24] <doodle> yeah...
[07:24] <Old> What i mean is, The text appeasr when i usually start a HL server, but this alias deattached it directly after i start it? So i dont see why this text is popping up?
[07:24] <jramsey> doodle, what kind of laptop?
[07:24] <doodle> i want to just run the live CD
[07:24] <Old> there's nothing wrong in the configuration/the text, It just pop-up when i do a /slwar, but WHY, the alias screens it and deattached it directly afterwards.
[07:25] <doodle> and ACER. model.. with 512 Ram, 60 GB hdd, and 1.73 Ghz proc.. with 945G chipset
[07:25] <tony007> where i can get vlc player
[07:25] <doodle> tony do a google .. u'll find lotsa places
[07:25] <doodle> or use wget
[07:25] <Kr0ntab> !repos
[07:25] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:25] <doodle> or yum
[07:25] <jack-> dont recommend odd stuff ;p
[07:25] <jack-> just enable universe/mutliverse and use apt
[07:26] <jack-> or any of your fave frontends
[07:26] <jack-> apt-get install vlc, done
[07:27] <Kr0ntab> brb
[07:27] <paulb> how do i exit irssi
[07:28] <jramsey> doodle, http://surrey.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TravelMate4100WLMi and read graphics section; this "may" help
[07:29] <jramsey> doodle, u r using breezy?
[07:29] <doodle> i'm not sure ramsey..
[07:29] <doodle> i just requested a live CD on the website.. and i got it yesterday...
[07:29] <jramsey> doodle, ok then it is breeze
[07:30] <mish> I have a laptop with encrypted partitions which has been upgraded from breezy to dapper, it has been working for a few weeks since the upgrade, but today cryptsetup is failing.  Can anyone help?
[07:30] <jramsey> doodle, here as well https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-i810/+bug/29880
[07:30] <jramsey> u will have to put ur detective hat on
[07:30] <ponijs>  Bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could   
[07:30] <ponijs>       not be                                                             
[07:30] <ponijs>       found and you did not specify other valid kernel headers to use.
[07:30] <ponijs> what's this mean?
[07:30] <doodle> yeah ramsey.. i took a look at that.. but how do i fix it to run the live CD.. i do not want to install ubuntu before trying it out
[07:30] <ponijs> I ran sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel
[07:30] <ponijs>  trying to get the proprietary ati drivers
[07:31] <NoUse> ponijs any reason you aren't using the ATI drivers from synaptic
[07:31] <ponijs> you're asking me why?
[07:31] <NoUse> ponijs yes
[07:31] <ponijs> are they installed by default?
[07:31] <mish> poijs: have you done $sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[07:32] <ponijs> no
[07:32] <movieman> hi guys any1 here know how to fix sudoers permission
[07:32] <NoUse> !tell ponijs about ati
[07:32] <jramsey> doodle, it is a catch-22 in some cases; i almost never use the live cd because of static config issues; but, live cd usually works
[07:32] <jramsey> what is running on ur laptop
[07:32] <ponijs> I'm following that page now, NoUse
[07:33] <bradley_> hi. i need some help setting up DMA data transfer-- i did follow the instructions in the wiki but when i am supposed change to a specific directory the terminal says there is no such file or directory.
[07:33] <ponijs> mish, which should I choose?
[07:33] <ponijs> I mean linux-headers
[07:33] <rambo3> $(uname -r)
[07:33] <ponijs> ah, 386
[07:33] <doodle> well. i have FC3.. and XP
[07:33] <doodle> on dual boot
[07:34] <mish> ponijs: just use the default
[07:34] <NoUse> ponijs follow the wiki instructions, its better that way
[07:34] <movieman> i have an error now using sudo
[07:34] <movieman> i get this can any1 help
[07:34] <movieman> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 288, should be 0
[07:34] <godfather> g' evening
[07:34] <ponijs> I was following them when I got the error, actually
[07:35] <rambo3> movieman, can you login on the system?
[07:35] <NoUse> movieman did you change the ownership of /etc/sudoers?
[07:35] <movieman> i can log in as norm but not to root
[07:35] <rambo3> i hade that porblem did james bond on all files chmod 007 /*/*/*
[07:35] <ponijs> headers are installing
[07:35] <rambo3> had to reinstall ubuntu
[07:36] <godfather> is there anyone who can tell me how install the bar like osx...i'm using gnome
[07:36] <ponijs> mish, it's working now, thanks
[07:36] <movieman> iv tryed booting in recovery and typed chown -R 0440 /etc/sudoers as told by a friend but that gave me the error im getting now
[07:36] <mish> ponijs: no prob
[07:36] <movieman> b4 the error was 440 not 288
[07:37] <D1> I have a problem loading .Xsession when loading gnome. It just doesn't read the file, can anyone suggest anything?
[07:37] <SAM_theman> yo
[07:37] <D1> its executable too
[07:37] <JhonnyEverson> Hi Guys, i have tried a lot, but i didn't work, so i'm asking to you. How can i auto mount a ext3 partition on a second sata disk, rw access for all users? plz
[07:37] <D1> it was reading it before I logged into a failsafe gnome session
[07:37] <NoUse> movieman boot recovery and run chmod root:root /etc/sudoers
[07:37] <SAM_theman> Yes I need help as well
[07:38] <movieman> is that all i need to do NoUse m8
[07:38] <jramsey> movieman, my sudoers is -r--r-----  1 root root 434 2006-04-29 15:24 /etc/sudoers
[07:38] <NoUse> movieman correction, chown, not chmod
[07:38] <rama3i> hello all
[07:38] <Kr0ntab> JhonnyEverson, mount with umask=2222
[07:38] <movieman> k thx alot for all ur help guys
[07:38] <Kr0ntab> in fstab
[07:38] <movieman> will b bk if doesnt work :)
[07:39] <rama3i> i want to build a module. but it said "linux kernel source not found"
[07:39] <JhonnyEverson> i guess umask doesn't work with ext3
[07:39] <rama3i> i want to build a module. but it said "linux kernel source not found". anybody can help? coz i can't find any kernel source from dvd
[07:39] <JhonnyEverson> i tried
[07:39] <NoUse> JhonnyEverson no, you use chmod and chown once its mounted
[07:40] <JhonnyEverson> yeah, but want that made automatically
[07:40] <Kr0ntab> directoy/file permissions after it's mounted will do the trick
[07:40] <rama3i> i want to build a module. but it said "linux kernel source not found". anybody can help? coz i can't find any kernel source from dvd
[07:40] <mish> ram3i: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[07:41] <mish> unless you have installed a different kernel
[07:41] <bradley_> hi. i need some help setting up DMA data transfer-- does anyone know stuff about DMA?
[07:41] <NoUse> !headers
[07:41] <ubotu> To install linux headers, open a console and type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:42] <NoUse> bradley_ which drive are you trying to enable it on?
[07:42] <jramsey> rama3i, what ker ver was the module originally built?
[07:42] <mish> bradley_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[07:43] <rama3i> mish: gee thx... god it was commplety different with original debian
[07:43] <rama3i> mish: i thought with apt-cache search linux i'll find it
[07:43] <haasteem> hi, is there a good client for reading and downloading from binary newsgroups? if so, which one?
[07:44] <BlankMind> I've installed "build-essential" package to compile a program, but in terminal, when I type "./configure", it says that this command was not found. What should I do?
[07:44] <jramsey> rama3i, as long as ur module was built with 2.6.16 (breezy) ur fine; if it was built with a later version (like the latest stable from kernel.org) u *may* have issues
[07:44] <CaBlGuY> haasteem,  just go get the latest distro of ubuntu.. :o)
[07:44] <bradley_> NoUse: i was playing a dvd and it was choppy so i checked out the wiki on dvd's and it sent me to the DMA page and i tried to follow those directions but it didn't work. so i guess the short answer would be that i am trying to enable my cd/dvd drive. (?)
[07:45] <NoUse> bradley_ what kind of error did you get?
[07:45] <Klaidas> hello. is there a command to see how much bandwidth a proccess (like skype, xchat, firefox) has used since rebooting?
[07:45] <CaBlGuY> Howdy bradley_  o/
[07:45] <ponijs> * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [fail] 
[07:45] <ponijs> um....
[07:46] <movieman> THX NoUse worked a treat all i have probs with now m8 is updates
[07:46] <ponijs> how do I fix this?
[07:46] <CaBlGuY> ahhh  bradley_  it's mounted right??
[07:46] <haasteem> CaBIGuY: what newsgroup reader comes with ubuntu?
[07:46] <NoUse> ponijs pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[07:46] <movieman> i click on updates top right and nothing
[07:46] <BlankMind> I don't know how to use ./configure command, can someone help me??? :(
[07:46] <CaBlGuY> haasteem,  ahh, yur wanting a client to rrun the newsgroups..
[07:46] <rama3i> ponijd: maybe it's becoz your display driver
[07:46] <movieman> tryed updates on system menu but nothing
[07:46] <NoUse> movieman tried left click/
[07:47] <CaBlGuY> haasteem,  well, the defualt mail client will read them..
[07:47] <CaBlGuY> Evo mail
[07:47] <movieman> ye tryed
[07:47] <bradley_> NoUSe: it told me there was no such file or directory when i : hdparm /dev/hdc
[07:47] <BlankMind> !compile
[07:47] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[07:47] <movieman> nothing m8
[07:47] <BlankMind> !apt
[07:47] <ubotu> somebody said apt was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[07:47] <rama3i> ponijs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. then change your display driver to vesa
[07:47] <NoUse> bradley_ try /dev/dvd
[07:47] <ponijs> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/717214
[07:48] <bradley_> NoUse: okay
[07:48] <jramsey> Klaidas, u try top?
[07:48] <rama3i> i want to build a module. but it said "linux kernel source not found". anybody can help? coz i can't find any kernel source from dvd... from last answer still can't compile
[07:48] <haasteem> CaBIGuY: ok, thunderbird will be ok for getting the regular newsgroup content, but i am not sure of its capabilities for e.g. alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.*
[07:48] <rama3i> i want to build a module. but it said "linux kernel source not found". anybody can help? coz i can't find any kernel source from dvd... from last answer still can't compile. maybe need linux-kernel-header. anybody can help?
[07:49] <kmischa> rama3i: which kernel to you use? uname -a
[07:49] <CaBlGuY> haasteem,  ubuntu also comes with Ktoreent and the like..  get mp3's through it all day long..
[07:49] <NoUse> bradley_ what kind of video card do you have/
[07:49] <CaBlGuY> just a suggestion..  ;o)
[07:49] <Klaidas> jramsey: which one of those columns in to dislpay it? :/
[07:49] <rama3i> ups sory i've found it... apt-cache search linux-header :D
[07:49] <bradley_> NoUse: well it did something... so that must be closer, but it said: HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[07:50] <jramsey> rama3i, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:50] <jramsey> rama3i, then cd/ur-mod-sourc-dir
[07:50] <NoUse> bradley_ what was the exact command you ran/
[07:50] <Echelon-H> is there a wiki entry for upgrading from hoary to 5.10?
[07:50] <Jimmey__> How can I get activex working with Wine?
[07:50] <NoUse> !tell Echelon-H about upgrade
[07:50] <haasteem> CaBIGuY: true, but i want to see also what's posted in these newsgroups, sometimes stuff is posted that i have never seen in a torrent or any other p2p app
[07:50] <CaBlGuY> Wine sux..  ;o)
[07:50] <jramsey> rama3i, then export KERNELDIR=/usr/src/linux-headers-'$(uname -r)
[07:50] <jramsey> rama3i, then make
[07:51] <Echelon-H> tell me 'bout it :P
[07:51] <jramsey> Klaidas, type H and read the help for top
[07:51] <movieman> exit
[07:51] <movieman> ooops sorry
[07:51] <_extricate_> hey guys
[07:51] <_extricate_> what's a good terminal web browser?
[07:51] <CaBlGuY> haasteem,  ahh, I see..  well, im sure there is a newsgroup reader associated with Linux, just gotta find it..
[07:51] <kmischa> lynx
[07:51] <CaBlGuY> haasteem, have u looked on the wiki??
[07:52] <haasteem> CaBIGuY: you mean ubuntu wiki?
[07:52] <_extricate_> lynx is?
[07:52] <tony007> how to do automounting
[07:52] <kmischa> yes
[07:52] <jramsey> Klaidas, turn cumulative mode on and see if that does it for you ... '1'
[07:52] <movieman> im getting this in terminal when doing updates
[07:52] <_extricate_> k thanx
[07:52] <bradley_> NoUse: i have a nvidia geforce4 (i not sure if the spelling of that is right but that is the sentiment of it)
[07:52] <dooglus> _extricate_: links or linx or w3m
[07:52] <Klaidas> jramsey: thanks.
[07:53] <ponijs> I am annoyed
[07:53] <Echelon-H> is there a wiki entry for upgrading from hoary to 5.10?
[07:53] <jramsey> Klaidas, yw
[07:53] <CaBlGuY> haasteem,  yes,
[07:53] <ponijs> I still can't select anything other than 800x600 or 640x480!
[07:53] <bradley_> NoUse: the command line was: bradley@homey:~$ sudo hdparm /dev/dvd
[07:53] <ponijs> and I've tried everything
[07:53] <NoUse> bradley_ sorry I think I meant to direct that question to someone else, about the video card
[07:53] <haasteem> CaBIGuY: no, not for this, i'll have a look
[07:53] <NoUse> bradley_ and it just outputted that error?
[07:54] <tony007> can anyone tell me how to make drives automounted
[07:54] <movieman> bradley_ u trying to enable dma
[07:54] <kmischa> Echelon-H: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-upgrading-ubuntu
[07:54] <RobNyc> why is my video not showing correct i have a RADEON X1600 PRO
[07:54] <RobNyc> video[1002:71c2 @ Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface] 
[07:54] <CaBlGuY> haasteem,  I would start there. Most of the time, that's where yur gonna find 9 out of 10 solutions that youyr looking for..
[07:54] <CaBlGuY> ;o)
[07:54] <bradley_> NoUse: then i ran: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[07:54] <bradley_>  and it seems to have enabled DMA (i'm not sure i should have done that but it seems to have worked)
[07:54] <RobNyc> !ati
[07:54] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:54] <haasteem> CaBIGuY: alright, i'll check it out, thanks
[07:55] <CaBlGuY> haakonn,  NP, and good luck.  :)
[07:55] <movieman> thats it bradley that will enable DMA on DVDROM or RW
[07:55] <navarone> !diskmounter
[07:55] <ubotu> I heard diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[07:55] <navarone> tony007,  ^^
[07:56] <roryy> bradley_: iirc, the default 'hdparm' (no switches) tries to get some info for things which don't make sense for cd/dvd-rom drives; that's why you got an error. probably not a big deal.
[07:56] <green_earz> tony007: you can install a module by use the app modconf or you can place the module name in the file /etc/modules
[07:56] <D1> can anyone help me? I can't get .Xsession to run a startup from my home directiory.
[07:56] <NoUse> bradley_ yeah and you can edit /etc/hdparm.conf to make sure that gets set at boot
[07:56] <ponijs> what was the command to view my graphic adapter name?
[07:57] <NoUse> ponijs what kind of video card do you have?
[07:57] <rama3i> one more question... does anybody heard about eepro1000? i need this module but i can't found it anywhere. my NIC need it to work
[07:57] <roryy> D1: are you using gnome? tried $HOME/.gnomerc instead ?
[07:57] <NoUse> ponijs lspci
[07:57] <movieman> add this at the end of ur hdparm.conf file
[07:57] <movieman> /dev/cdrom {
[07:57] <movieman>        dma = on
[07:57] <movieman> }
[07:57] <D1> I am using gnome
[07:57] <green_earz> ponijs:  or    lspci -v
[07:57] <ponijs> thanks
[07:57] <[Spooky] > firestarter uses iptables right ?
[07:57] <kmischa> rama3i: intel gigabit ethernet
[07:57] <NoUse> movieman its probably /dev/dvd for him
[07:57] <navarone> ponijs,  you can try in terminal "lspci | grep video"  < - - one way
[07:57] <movieman> ye
[07:58] <D1> didn't try that. I just followed instructions to setup xgl
[07:58] <rama3i> kmischa: yup u'r right. where i can found the module?
[07:58] <bradley_> NoUse: do you think that was right? do i have to do the same thing for cd's?
[07:58] <movieman> thats what i have it set to NoUse
[07:58] <D1> then I went to failsafe mode when it crashed, and ever since it stopped loading .Xsession
[07:58] <roryy> D1: hrm, ok, maybe that's not a good idea. i don't know xgl
[07:58] <NoUse> movieman but if you have two drives
[07:58] <NoUse> movieman one is cdrom, one is dvd
[07:58] <movieman> NoUse can i set mine to enable 2 drives ?
[07:58] <roryy> D1: asked in #ubuntu-xgl ?
[07:58] <rama3i> kmischa: it can't be recognize on standard instalation module
[07:58] <D1> I'll try that thanks.
[07:58] <navarone> id dapper still set for june 1 release?
[07:58] <movieman> i have dvd both
[07:58] <navarone> is*
[07:58] <movieman> 1 rom 1 RW
[07:59] <NoUse> movieman well, mine is cd and dvd and one is /dev/cdrom and one is /dev/dvd
[07:59] <iNiku> guys, quick question: if you want to dual boot XP and ubuntu, is there any reason not to install grub in the MBR?
[07:59] <mike-e> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[07:59] <mike-e> how can i fix that?
[07:59] <NoUse> !tell mike-e about b-e
[07:59] <iNiku> a friend is worried XP will break somehow if grub is installed in the MBR. works fine for me, so is there any basis for his fear?
[08:00] <NoUse> iNiku no
[08:00] <rama3i> one more question... does anybody heard about eepro1000? i need this module but i can't found it anywhere. my NIC need it to work
[08:00] <ponijs> how can I find out wether ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB]  (rev 9a)
[08:00] <ponijs>  supports 1024x768?
[08:00] <navarone> iNiku, I cannot give you reason you may not want to but i find it easier to install on floppy and use it to boot into ubuntu...i just find it easier
[08:00] <NoUse> iNiku you can always put it back with a windows cd ayway
[08:00] <tony007> green_earz: can u tell me in detail abt this modconf i dint get u i want the drives to be mounted automatically when i boot my sys
[08:00] <mike-e> i must be the only one that feels it's ridiculous not to have a fully functioning c compiler installed with base os.
[08:00] <kmischa> rama3i: it is called e1000
[08:00] <rama3i> ponijs: go to ati.com
[08:00] <iNiku> NoUse: that's what I thought and that's how it's always been with earlier windows versions
[08:00] <iNiku> NoUse: for some reason he thought XP is different in that respect
[08:00] <iNiku> navarone: that's not really an option
[08:00] <ponijs> I am damn annoyed
[08:01] <NoUse> iNiku its not
[08:01] <navarone> iNiku, ...no floppy drive
[08:01] <Kennie> iNiku : if it failes use the install cd and press r (repair) and type fixmbr
[08:01] <NoUse> navarone it makes it take longer to boot too
[08:01] <movieman> cool
[08:01] <Blue89> there are more ppl here than ubuntu xgl, so I think I will ask you guys: can I set opengl to add anaglyph/stereoscopics to programs that are made for plain 2d windows like ppracer and the screensavers?
[08:01] <rama3i> kmischa: but it still can't recognize my NIC? what's happen? I'm working on Intel PRO/1000 PL
[08:01] <nickrud> ponijs, grep -i default /var/log/Xorg.0.log has some info about your cards supported video modes
[08:01] <navarone> NoUse, I guess I am not in that big a hurry...lol
[08:01] <Kr0ntab> mike-e, the average user does not need a compiler.  getting it installed however is very easy for those that need it.
[08:02] <NoUse> ponijs you know that the binary ati drivers don't support cards as old as that right/
[08:02] <ponijs> no
[08:02] <NoUse> ponijs it was written on the wiki page
[08:02] <green_earz> tony007: sorry i thought you said driver. modconf is for install modules, ie. driver.   to mount a drive you will need to partions it and the edit the /etc/fstab file to add that drive
[08:02] <jramsey> mike-e, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:02] <gteppel> Has anybody successfuly setup a Samsung ML-2010 in Ubunutu?
[08:03] <rama3i> ponijs: it's supported. just go to ati.com and download ATI driver. then use fglrx instead ati driver on xserver setup
[08:03] <iNiku> navarone: no reason not to use some boot manager... you can boot linux using the windows boot manager too, if you're worried about using ubuntu for some reason
[08:03] <movieman> NoUse i cant load nothing to do with system menu no updates no synaptic update manager nothing :(
[08:03] <NoUse> rama3i no, its not
[08:03] <ponijs> I installed the ati driver but it doesn't work
[08:03] <Kr0ntab> gteppel, ML-1210 here.  they have a decent set of linux drivers...
[08:03] <NoUse> rama3i its a Mach64 card, those drivers go from radeon 8500 and up
[08:03] <navarone> iNiku, I have used ubuntu for almost a year booting with floppy...it suits my needs
[08:03] <rama3i> nouse: then vesa is the last answer
[08:03] <rama3i> :D
[08:04] <gteppel> Kr0ntab: did you run into any trouble?, I ran their setup utility but I'm getting errors when I try to print a test page
[08:04] <NoUse> ponijs run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org' and select ati as your driver again
[08:04] <rama3i> kmischa: but it still can't recognize my NIC? what's happen? I'm working on Intel PRO/1000 PL
[08:04] <kmischa> rama3i: check if the Intel driver supports you card, have a look at: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/support_intel.asp
[08:04] <kmischa> rama3i: The Intel support is great
[08:04] <NoUse> movieman try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:05] <iNiku> navarone: okay, whatever floats your boot :D
[08:06] <iNiku> NoUse: thanks for confirming my thoughts
[08:06] <tony007> green_earz: wat to write in fstab file
[08:06] <ajith54> hi can you tell me where to download PHP5 binaries for ubuntu
[08:06] <NoUse> !info php5
[08:07] <andreasc89> my add/remove programs has disappaerad
[08:07] <ubotu> php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB
[08:07] <NoUse> ajith54 synaptic
[08:07] <minimec> Hi. I have the fallowing problem. After a fild install of mldonkey-server on dapper I am blocked now, whenever I want to use apt-get dpkg and aptitude. Three programm first want to run dpkg --configure mldonkey-server... which fails ;) What can I do now?
[08:07] <andreasc89> how do I get it back?
[08:07] <navarone> iNiku, with other users wanting to use windows...users whoa re not very savvy...it is easier to remove the boot manager from the equation and just use floppy when i want to use ubuntu...<s>
[08:07] <McNutella> abumortwo
[08:07] <rama3i> kmischa: except this one. i have build intel newest driver. but it still can recognize.... new hardware new problem. :(
[08:08] <bradley_> NoUse: before i save any changes to hdparm.conf i have two questions: 1. everything line before it begins with #, should i add that at the beginning of the lines that i add too? 2. if /dev/dvd worked to set DMA in the terminal i would use that in hdparm.conf instead of the dev/hdc right?
[08:08] <choichoi> hello
[08:08] <kasutaja> hi
[08:08] <kmischa> rama3i: do you use the vanilla kernel tree? or the ubuntu?
[08:08] <NoUse> brandon_ 1) no # comments stuff out 2) yes, use /dev/dvd
[08:08] <RobNyc> Any ati users here
[08:08] <ahmad> hello?
[08:09] <ahmad> anyone there?
[08:09] <NoUse> ahmad over 750 of use
[08:09] <NoUse> ahmad us*
[08:09] <dooglus> is there a good guide for how to use grub somewhere?  I tried it when I first installed Hoary, but it didn't work, so I used lilo instead.  Can I switch back now?
[08:09] <Blue89> yup
[08:09] <kasutaja> is it possible to upgrade (keep all my current stuff) to flight 7 from the CD? I know it's possible with the update manager (whatever that is, I found it in the wiki), but can I do it from the CD?
[08:09] <NoUse> !grub
[08:09] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:09] <choichoi> I am searching an howto make package for ubuntu ?
[08:10] <NoUse> kasutaja not from the live CD
[08:10] <bradley_> NoUse: okay thanks
[08:10] <NoUse> kasutaja you can from the live cd
[08:10] <Joetheodd> My wallpaper and icons don't show up..
[08:10] <NoUse> kasutaja you can from the install CD*
[08:10] <ajith54> NoUse, which repository to look for PHP5 packages
[08:10] <dooglus> isn't there just a single live+install CD now?
[08:11] <dooglus> ajith54: php5 is in main
[08:11] <kasutaja> the same question as dooglus
[08:11] <NoUse> ajith54 its the the main breezy repo
[08:11] <g0dchild> Hi, is there a network monitor service/daemon similar to knemo available in gnome?
[08:11] <NoUse> dooglus for dapper, but the live cd doesn't work as a package repo
[08:11] <mike-e> how can i install libncurses?
[08:11] <dooglus> NoUse: I guess he's talking about dapper isn't he?
[08:11] <pyrotic> Ok.. Lets see.. how can I explain my problem...
[08:12] <dooglus> NoUse: he said 'flight 7'
[08:12] <utente> hi
[08:12] <NoUse> mike-e search for it in synaptic
[08:12] <choichoi> do you know where can I find an howto make package ?
[08:12] <lindi-> any idea where in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs/ i can see all the bugs reported against the "parted" package? i couldn't find it even under "Advanced"
[08:12] <NoUse> dooglus yeah I know
[08:12] <kasutaja> yeah I meant dapper drake flight 7
[08:12] <mike-e> NoUse: i searched with apt-cache and nothing came up
[08:12] <mike-e> except for some ruby mods.
[08:12] <lostloser> heya, i got this odd problem. I try to apt-get install mysql-server after a ubuntu-server install and i get dependency problems. perl and libdbi-perl and mysql-client 4 or something.. i'm using breezy badger 5.10... i normally use debian..
[08:12] <pyrotic> Summed up pretty easily, I went to load Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory... and it like opened up, and then closed.. and in the terminal.. gave me an error..about Open_GL...which I assume is the driver, but I have the latest driver for my card, which took me forever to get...but I got it...
[08:13] <kmischa> choichoi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[08:13] <khaled> is there a firewall installed by default ? i can not ssh to my computer
[08:13] <Jelte> hiya guys, any UK people here?  any UK people using plusnet here?  any uk people using plusnet who are as p*ssed off with them as I am and can recommend anything better? :-)     they used to be great, but a 4GB monthly allowance during peak time (the only time i'm home), is ridiculous
[08:13] <andreasc89> iv'e wrote sudo apt-get install lynx
[08:13] <roryy> !info libncurses5
[08:13] <ubotu> libncurses5: (Shared libraries for terminal handling), section base, is required. Version: 5.4-9ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 281 kB, Installed size: 528 kB
[08:13] <andreasc89> how do I open it?
[08:13] <rama3i> kmischa: ubuntu
[08:13] <rama3i> kmischa: ubuntu why?
[08:13] <NoUse> !info libncurses5
[08:13] <lufis> Can anyone tell me how to write to a magicgate protected memory stick?
[08:13] <dooglus> khaled: there's a firewall built into the kernel, but all ports are left open by default.  you'll need to install an ssh server if you want to run one
[08:13] <lsuactiafner> !xinerama
[08:13] <ubotu> from memory, xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[08:13] <pyrotic> And what it does basically, when I launch it, it goes black like it's going into the game, and then crashes, and makes my screen 800x600 but yet, I can move the mouse to the left and it takes the screen to the left to view the rest of it.. if I move to the right, it takes the screen to view the rest of the screen... it's almost like my viewing is at 800x600 but yet the screen itself is at 1280x????
[08:14] <scifi> Jelte: i recently switched to UKOnline, 9.99/month for 1mbit uncapped
[08:14] <pyrotic> Then I do the 3 finger salute and kill xserver, and start over again.. seeing as that is the only way out that I've found.
[08:14] <scifi> been perfect so far
[08:14] <choichoi> thx kmischa !
[08:14] <Jelte> scifi: , hmm i like the sound of uncapped...
[08:14] <choichoi> there is too much people here !
[08:14] <dooglus> too many, choichoi
[08:14] <kmischa> rama3i: maybe you should try the driver of the vanila kernel tree => 2.6.16.16
[08:14] <nickrud> pyrotic, that's called a virtual desktop; hitting clt-alt + will cycle through the available video modes
[08:14] <Jelte> talktalk sound like a good deal too, but possibly a bit too new on the block to provide anything good...
[08:14] <lufis> Does anyone know how to write to a magicgate protected memory stick?
[08:14] <dooglus> you would only say too much if you had put them all through a blender first
[08:15] <khaled> dooglus, thanks
[08:15] <scifi> Jelte: they also do 2mbit for 15/month, 8mbit and 22mbit
[08:15] <scifi> all uncapped
[08:15] <luke> my gnome and KDE are really broken!!
[08:15] <pyrotic> nickrud Ah, Ok.. But about the game problem, how do I go about fixing it?
[08:15] <Jelte> scifi: , lemme check that one out then!
[08:15] <lsuactiafner> i have two screens,want to use both of them, but to display different things, i should use xinerama?
[08:15] <rama3i> kmischa: wow.. it newer than the ubuntu has. where i can get it?
[08:15] <ompaul> pyrotic, there are two three fingered salutes, it is useful to actually say CTRL ALT Backspace for X to people, use auto replace in your irc client to save on typing (oops one of my tricks escaped there :-))
[08:15] <kmischa> rama3i: www.kernel.org
[08:15] <nickrud> pyrotic, I've never run et, so ...
[08:15] <dooglus> khaled: install the 'openssh-server' package
[08:15] <luke> my audio doesn't work, but when I start it still does the system sounds
[08:16] <gighen> hi all
[08:16] <kmischa> rama3i: also have a look at http://sourceforge.net/projects/e1000
[08:16] <scifi> Jelte: but not available in all of UK, so do the postcode check http://www.ukonline.net/?sso_auth=0
[08:16] <pyrotic> ompaul *rephrases the 3 finger salute to CTRL+ALT+Backspace* :)
[08:16] <Jelte> scifi: , thanks!
[08:16] <lufis> Luke: you might need to set the sound card in the audio player you're using
[08:16] <pyrotic> Does anybody have any idea apon what I can do to fix this issue?
[08:17] <ompaul> kmischa, the ubuntu kernel has been tweaked in ubuntu ways kernel dot org is not and unlike windows the latest is not the solution on Linux unless your testing or *really really need some feature that is not in your software*
[08:17] <ajith54> NoUse, Thank you very much
[08:17] <luke> no, kmix says "Mixer can't be found" and my kmilo plugin always says mute
[08:17] <pyrotic> Anybody....
[08:17] <dooglus> how do I adjust QoS settings to limit my upstream?
[08:17] <gighen> is there anyone that has a Ricoh sound peripheral ... and has installed correctly the drivers?
[08:17] <kasutaja> what does the "text-mode install" mean (Dapper Flight 7 stuff)
[08:17] <Jelte> scifi:  cant get it :-(
[08:17] <dooglus> kasutaja: I guess it means the installer doesn't use any graphics.
[08:17] <kmischa> ompaul: I know e.g. I'm on git :-)
[08:17] <pyrotic> I guess I'll return another time, when sombody can help me...toodaloo...
[08:18] <dooglus> pyrotic: missing you already :)
[08:18] <kasutaja> dooglus: doesn't use any graphics means looks like the old installer :P?
[08:18] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[08:18] <dooglus> kasutaja: I guess.  looks like you're running MSDOS :)
[08:18] <nickrud> pyrotic, maybe next time you could provide a link to the complete error, for someone who might have an idea it would help
[08:18] <luke> hello??
[08:18] <luke> what do I need to get to fix my sound?
[08:18] <scifi> Jelte: i switched from Pipex who were also uncapped and 100% reliable but more expensive http://www.solo.pipex.net/ check em out
[08:19] <pyrotic> nickrud Well.. Great idea.. I will return.. with a link to the complete error :)
[08:19] <movieman> im with pipex top guys
[08:19] <scifi> movieman: yeh but expensive, hence the switch to ukonline
[08:20] <Jelte> yeah i heard good things about pipex... i'd still need my BT line though wouldn't i?
[08:20] <kasutaja> how can I install Flight 7 from the install CD then?
[08:20] <scifi> yes
[08:20] <movieman> ye i tryed ukonline first 3 months later i was still waiting to be connected
[08:20] <scifi> loool
[08:20] <nickrud> kasutaja, simply hit enter at the first opportunity
[08:20] <Jelte> it says uncapped, but "Acceptable use policy applies" ... lets hunt for those policies ;-)
[08:20] <luke> hello????
[08:20] <movieman> they only 10 a month ukonline
[08:20] <kasutaja> nickrud: sorry I meant upgrade
[08:21] <movieman> im paying 20 now
[08:21] <kasutaja> how can I upgrade to Flight 7 from the install CD then?
[08:21] <movieman> with pipex
[08:21] <scifi> movieman: i admit the engineer fucked up the switch over, but once it was sorted 2 days later, connection has been perfect
[08:21] <pyrotic> Ok, now people here you are my error - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14015 - :)
[08:21] <tony007> how to check the space left on my hard disk n how much i have used
[08:21] <Seveas> @part
[08:21] <dooglus> tony007: df
[08:21] <movieman> nice scifi
[08:21] <pyrotic> and by the way the "CTRL+ALT+ +" doesn't get me out of this view :(
[08:21] <nickrud> kasutaja, ah. if you're already dapper, just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:21] <khaled> tony007, df -u
[08:21] <RobNyc> !xgl
[08:21] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:22] <scifi> we even lost dial-tone on the phoneline rofl
[08:22] <khaled> tony007, df -h
[08:22] <pyrotic> Any Idea's anybody? -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14015 --
[08:22] <nickrud> pyrotic, the plus on the number pad
[08:22] <scifi> engineer tried blaiming it on the roadworks
[08:22] <serp> how do I get the Window List in my panel to show the apps in 2 rows?
[08:22] <kasutaja> nickrud: I have only 40 minutes to upgrade so I can't let it download that stuff so long, but I can pause bittorrent so I want to upgrade from the CD
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-Numpad-+ and -
[08:22] <ponijs> um, the ati drivers didn't work with this card, rama3i
[08:22] <pyrotic> nickrud oh.. my bad!.. THanks :)
[08:22] <pyrotic> nickrud it woiked!.. :D
[08:23] <nickrud> pyrotic, not obvious, true
[08:23] <ponijs> gnome wouldn't start anymore
[08:23] <pyrotic> nickrud you have any idea about my error?
[08:23] <luke> what do I type to make everything as it was when I firts installed kubuntu Dapper?
[08:24] <scifi> Jelte: was with pipex about 2 years dont think i EVER had a connection outage, now thats reliability for u
[08:24] <nickrud> kasutaja, upgrade from what exactly to flight 7?
[08:24] <nickrud> pyrotic, like I said, people who might think they could help won't say much without more error data
[08:24] <kasutaja> nickrud: from breezy to flight 7
[08:24] <jramsey> ubotu tell jramsey about gnome-terminal
[08:24] <Jelte> scifi: , yeah they look good, but they are indeed somewhat on the pricey side compared to others
[08:24] <pyrotic> nickrud - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14015 - ..?
[08:24] <scifi> indeed
[08:25] <kasutaja> nickrud, but I can't dist-upgrade or whatever, I just want to upgrade it from the install CD, I know it was possible to do it hoary>breezy
[08:25] <gighen> is there anyone that have a Asus notebook AC6 or Z9200VC?
[08:25] <nickrud> kasutaja, just putting in the cd should offer an upgrade
[08:25] <jramsey> ok how do i increase the buffer space for gnome-terminal so i see lots of history? am building the kernel and i want some bread crumbs left behind
[08:25] <gighen> 
[08:25] <movieman> scifi how much it cost u to switch if u dont mind me asking
[08:25] <movieman> ???
[08:25] <kasutaja> nickrud: putting the cd in while running breezy or do I have to restart and do shit?
[08:26] <nickrud> kasutaja, while breezy is running
[08:26] <scifi> erm, i think it was 25 thats all, just a one-off connection fee, and i used a MAC code to speed switch-over
[08:26] <mirak> hi
[08:26] <luke> HELLO?? i've been asking for frickin' ages
[08:26] <gighen> i have a problem with the sound driver in my asus notebook
[08:26] <mirak> anyone is good with pam_mount ?
[08:26] <nickrud> pyrotic, now if you'd posted that earlier, I wouldn't have said a word, since I have no clue :)
[08:26] <kasutaja> nickrud, ok thank you!
[08:26] <mirak> anyone is good with pam_mount ? I am trying to mount fuse smbnetfs at login
[08:26] <pyrotic> nickrud I've posted it 5 times :)
[08:27] <movieman> k cool have u done ur 12 month contract tho ?? scifi
[08:27] <scifi> with pipex u mean ?
[08:27] <Syco54645> when i try to play a wmv in xine it says "the source seems encrypted, and cant be read. (media stream scrambled/encrypted)"
[08:27] <Syco54645> what can i do to fix that
[08:27] <drew> anyone familiar with pure-ftpd?
[08:27] <nickrud> pyrotic, I didn't see it. I generally recommend putting any links you have up each time you ask your question. People drop in and out all the time
[08:27] <movieman> ye
[08:27] <pyrotic> nickrud Ok, Thanks for the help.
[08:27] <scifi> yes was with them 2 years
[08:28] <movieman> k iv only been with them 4 month
[08:28] <movieman> :(
[08:28] <pyrotic> Ok, Asking one more time, to see replies before I head out unless sombody has a clue... How do I go about fixing this error? -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14015 --
[08:28] <gighen> .
[08:28] <drew> i'm trying to create folders in /var/www, but can't because i have no permission to create folders there.  how do i sudo to get permission?
[08:28] <drew> i tried to "run as different user", but it wants to know what executable to run
[08:28] <scifi> movieman: k 20 not bad for a flawless service, we were paying 23.50
[08:29] <skuark> drew, sudo chmod 700 /var/www
[08:29] <movieman> :)
[08:29] <movieman> iv never had any probs from them
[08:29] <Joetheodd> Is there a free version of something like Partition Magick on the repositories?
[08:29] <drew> skuark - in a terminal window?
[08:29] <skuark> drew, yes
[08:29] <mike-e> anyone recommend a bittorrent client for the console?
[08:29] <movieman> apart from they got port sniffers now
[08:29] <spikeb> Joetheodd: gparted is one
[08:29] <ilba7r> how can i change the path in gnome. I am not talking about .bachrc for it only works if i am in a shell
[08:29] <drew> thanks - drew=newbie!!
[08:30] <movieman> so downloading a bit ov a pain
[08:30] <scifi> movieman: yeh as i said to jelte, was with them 2 years and NEVER had a connection outage
[08:30] <spikeb> mike-e: yes. bitorrent.
[08:30] <scifi> movieman: kinda stopped dodgey downloading a while ago  neway :P
[08:30] <mike-e> spikeb : bittorent command not found, apt says its installed
[08:30] <pyrotic> Ok, no replies.. I'm outta here... BBIAW
[08:30] <ponijs> what is sit0 and lo in ifconfig -a?
[08:31] <Joetheodd> spikeb: Must be a good one. 1337 kB have to be downloaded.
[08:31] <Jelte> anyone ever hear of efhbroadband.com?
[08:31] <mike-e> bittorrent doesn't even have a manpage
[08:32] <ilba7r> mike-e download azures as a front end for bittorrent
[08:32] <kmischa> ponijs: sit0 = IPv6-in-IPv4 tunnel, lo = loopback
[08:32] <ilba7r> !tell mike-e about azuerus
[08:32] <bradley_> so i'm back with a different question-- i am using nVidia geforce4 and back in the day (last week) when i used XP it had an interface where i could adjust settings. does one exist for ubuntu?
[08:32] <Ra211> I'm looking for the wallpaper with "the ubuntu penguin": I remember seeing a picture of a bunch of penguins with a brown furry one in the middle but I can't find it - does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?
[08:32] <mirak> I am trying to use pam_mount to mount something with fuse at login. I don't understand how I can use custom mount commands. using volumes limitate the usage, and I also I better run the command as a user
[08:33] <mike-e> spelling perhaps
[08:33] <mike-e> !tell me about azurus
[08:33] <movieman> lol scifi
[08:33] <mike-e> !tell me about azures
[08:33] <mirak> help
[08:33] <ilba7r> mike-e, i have it on my other machine let me check
[08:33] <mike-e> !tell me about azeurus
[08:33] <mike-e> =/
[08:33] <ponijs> how come I can't save /etc/conf.d/net??
[08:33] <ponijs> gedit says error--could not save
[08:34] <mike-e> rtorrent is an endless crap fest of missing libraries
[08:34] <spikeb> when using the official client, btdownload.py is the console downloaded
[08:34] <spikeb> downloader, that is
[08:34] <kennethlove> anyone: apt-get gives me 404s. even after an update and checking that the sources are correct
[08:34] <kennethlove> any ideas?
[08:34] <nickrud> kennethlove, the servers are down?
[08:34] <mike-e> so there is no front end for console based bittorrent?
[08:35] <jramsey> ponijs, sudo nautilus --no-desktop /etc/conf.d/net
[08:35] <Ra211> looking for something like this: http://www.paul.sladen.org/ubuntu/brown/brown-penguin-287x228.jpg
[08:35] <kennethlove> nickrud: doubt it. an 'upgrade' worked. just not 'install'
[08:35] <ponijs> jramsey, thanks
[08:35] <skuark> how can I remove openoofice.org2 withaut removing ubuntu-desktop? When I try apt-get remove open..., apt select ubuntu-dektop to uninstall it
[08:35] <ilba7r> tell mike-e about azureus
[08:35] <nickrud> kennethlove, is it 404's on particular files then?
[08:35] <mike-e> !azureus
[08:35] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:35] <kennethlove> nickrud: seemingly all of the repos.
[08:35] <|Sivik|> now i offically understand why i keep freezing openoffice
[08:35] <ilba7r> good you have the page now
[08:36] <spikeb> mike-e: btdownloadcurses
[08:36] <kennethlove> nickrud: i've had this problem before, but i can't remember the solution. something to do with routing to localhost...
[08:36] <jramsey> ponijs, sry ... just /etc then d.c. the file u want and it'll edit in sudo mode
[08:36] <samuli> skuark, ubuntu-desktop isn't anything.
[08:36] <Chris_Tucker> where would i find run-mozilla.sh on my system?
[08:37] <kennethlove> or routing how it gets to the 'net
[08:37] <ponijs> jramsey, say what :3
[08:37] <nickrud> kennethlove, well you have just thoroughly confused me :)
[08:37] <mike-e> wow btdownloadcurses looks so enticing.
[08:37] <kennethlove> nickrud: hah. no problem
[08:37] <ponijs> what is d.c.?
[08:37] <bradley_> i am using nVidia geforce4 and am looking for an interface so i can adjust settings. does one exist for ubuntu?
[08:37] <nickrud> bradley_, nvidia-settings
[08:37] <samuli> skuark, it's just a sort of list of packages what should be in ubuntu-desktop to make installing it easier.
[08:38] <samuli> skuark, you won't break anything by removing it. In fact, it's almost impossible not to at some point.
[08:38] <nickrud> Chris_Tucker, locate  run-mozilla.sh
[08:38] <ponijs> how do I make a new empty file?
[08:38] <nickrud> ponijs, touch <filename>
[08:38] <spikeb> ponijs: touch filename
[08:38] <ponijs> thanks
[08:38] <ponijs> touch: cannot touch `/etc/conf.d/net': No such file or directory
[08:38] <ponijs> um?
[08:39] <ilba7r> how can i change the path in gnome. I am not talking about .bachrc for it only works if i am in a shell
[08:39] <jramsey> sudo nautilus --no-desktop /etc/
[08:39] <skuark> samuli, ok, thanks, I was thinking that if I remove this package some packages of gnome would crash
[08:39] <ponijs> ok
[08:39] <jramsey> ponijs, what r u trying to do?
[08:39] <nickrud> ponijs, probably because /etc/conf.d doesn't exists
[08:39] <jramsey> nickrud, :)
[08:40] <ponijs> I am trying to add a line to /etc/conf.d/net
[08:40] <samuli> skuark, It helps to read the package descriptions in synaptic ;)
[08:40] <nickrud> ponijs, that's not a dir in ubuntu. as jramsey said, what are you trying to do?
[08:40] <ponijs> make a router :/
[08:41] <skuark> samuli, ok, thanks a lot ;)
[08:41] <daiver> Is anyone in here familiar with fglrx and dapper?
[08:42] <ponijs> I can't find any guides how to make a router on ubuntu or debian :/
[08:42] <nickrud> ponijs, I think ipmasq & dpcp3-server together will do that. But I'm no networking guru
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> ponijs,  just a few iptables rules is all there is to it. , unless ya need the router to special things
[08:42] <green_earz> ponijs: check out shorewall site
[08:42] <dballesg> hi everyone
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> and dhcp server. :P
[08:43] <ponijs> ok
[08:43] <daiver> Is anyone in here familiar with fglrx and dapper?
[08:43] <karis> hi, what was the name for that kde konsole that drops down from the top with a key combination?
[08:43] <tyler> hello all, how do i update firefox after ive downloaded the appropriate update?
[08:43] <nickrud> Dr_Willis, I saw rob_p give that advice, I'm just a parrot :)
[08:43] <sladen> Ra211: /me spots his name being mentioned
[08:44] <dballesg> There is someone that can help me configuring a Ububtu 64 bit with a NForce NV44 (GeForce 6100) and Network integrated?
[08:44] <sladen> Ra211: http://www.paul.sladen.org/ubuntu/brown/brown-287x228.png
[08:44] <pundai> hey ladies, anyone know how to set the acpi events to work with my Fn keys on my laptop
[08:44] <kennethlove> anyone: apt-get gives me 404s. even after an update and checking that the sources are correct.
[08:44] <jramsey> ponijs, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-17594.html might help
[08:44] <sladen> pundai: they should work out of the box
[08:44] <pundai> sladen, some of them do
[08:44] <pundai> but for example, hibernate doesn
[08:44] <pundai> 't
[08:44] <sladen> pundai: if they don't, please file a bug against  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+filebug
[08:45] <pundai> and nothing shows up in acpi_listen
[08:45] <pundai> ok
[08:45] <ponijs> jramsey, thanks
[08:45] <tyler> can anyone help me install the new version of firefox?
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> !ff
[08:45] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis
[08:45] <tyler> i've already downloaded the update
[08:45] <tyler> i just need to get it installed
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> !firefox
[08:45] <pundai> sladen, but some of these bugs are Fn+F4 should do sleep whereas on my comp i want it to be Fn+F1
[08:46] <tyler> !firefox
[08:46] <nickrud> ff1.5
[08:46] <dballesg> Hi, I need help with that , I've been stuck with ubuntu more than ten hours today. Any help would be appreciated
[08:46] <sladen> pundai: yes, every laptop is different.  And every laptop has a different way of sending the signals.
[08:46] <pundai> ok
[08:46] <lsuactiafner> how well does xinerama and ATI work?
[08:46] <sladen> pundai: acpi-support basically has a huge list of different types of laptop and the workarounds for each one
[08:47] <pundai> sladen, oh, and there is no way for me to configure?
[08:47] <green_earz> karis: its part of kde, just double click the top bar of the app and all will roll up to just single bar, click on the bar again and the app will unroll
[08:47] <sladen> pundai: can you please file a bug so that we can work out /how/ to support your particular laptop
[08:47] <dballesg> Any expert installing the NVidia And NFORCE drivers on Ubuntu 64 bits?
[08:47] <pundai> alrighty
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> dballesg,  may be better off using the 32bit version.
[08:47] <sladen> pundai: and then go through the hints at:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HotkeyResearch  and see whether you can work out what signals it's sending
[08:47] <sladen> pundai: are you using Kubuntu or ubuntu?
[08:48] <pundai> sladen, ok how about Fn+F10=eject cddrom, that has something to do with acpi as well?
[08:48] <sladen> dballesg: what are you stuck with?
[08:48] <pundai> sladen, ubuntu
[08:48] <mirak> is it normal that there is not /sbin/mount.fuse ?
[08:48] <Garthex> hintswen, i'm having trouble installing ethernet on my friends laptop running ubuntu. It "PCI1410" cardbus
[08:48] <sladen> pundai: excellent
[08:48] <freemanen> in witch file can you found aspell dictionary?
[08:48] <Garthex> that was supposed to be "hi ," lol
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> pundai,  you can set the cdrom to auto-eject when unmounted. :P i did that once ages ago
[08:48] <pundai> Dr_Willis, this is besides the point, obviously
[08:48] <dballesg> Dr_Willis the problem is ubuntu is installed but doesn't recognize the network card that is integrated on the motherboard, so I can not use internet to upgrade the drivers of the graphics card
[08:48] <karis> green_earz, may be you got me wrong? that one is an X terminal that drops down with F12 If I recall correctly
[08:48] <kennethlove> anyone: apt-get gives me 404s. even after an update and checking that the sources are correct.
[08:49] <pundai> anyway, sladen im submitting the bug
[08:49] <Evilsmevil> hi all
[08:49] <eobanb> kennethlove, can you pastebin your sources.list
[08:49] <Morimando> Hey there. How do i mount an initrd to a directory? I need to know which modules i need in the initrd i am trying to build
[08:49] <dballesg> I've been stuck with that all day :(
[08:49] <Evilsmevil> i have a slightly strange question and it would be great if someone could help me with it
[08:49] <kennethlove> eobanb: it's the default one, i do believe, but gimme a second
[08:49] <Evilsmevil> does anyone know how i can ping a web page from the command line?
[08:49] <eobanb> !tell Evilsmevil about anyone
[08:49] <jramsey> :)
[08:49] <roe> you mean like ping www.yahoo.com
[08:50] <Evilsmevil> yeah will that work?
[08:50] <eobanb> Evilsmevil, i think you mean ping a server, not a 'web page'
[08:50] <Morimando> ping -c5 www.google.de ^^
[08:50] <Evilsmevil> no i mean a web page
[08:50] <HymnToLife> eobanb> this is irrelevant, he did ask his question
[08:50] <nickrud> dballesg, what card do you have?
[08:50] <roe> if the server is setup to respond it will work
[08:50] <eobanb> Evilsmevil, you can't 'ping' a document
[08:50] <jramsey> Evilsmevil, ping www.ubuntu.com pings a web site ... you wanna ping a web "page"??  that doesnt make sense
[08:50] <nickrud> dballesg, or, chipset that is :)
[08:50] <JonBoon> how do i chmod 644 to an entire folder?
[08:51] <dballesg> The motherboard is an asrock 939NF4G witg a geforce 6100 integrated (NV44)
[08:51] <Evilsmevil> ok basically i have an audio server, it changes track when a certain web page is accessed
[08:51] <Morimando> chmod 644 <foldername> -R
[08:51] <ponijs> there is nothing in /etc/default/iptables
[08:51] <dballesg> sorry guys I answer slowly, ages since I'be been on an irc channel :)
[08:51] <Evilsmevil> i want to access the web page but i dont care what the output of the page is
[08:51] <ponijs> where do I find the iptables configuration?
[08:51] <nickrud> dballesg, lspci should be specific about the ethernet , that will help
[08:51] <eobanb> Evilsmevil, so you mean like the pingback api
[08:51] <EnterUserName> hi
[08:51] <Evilsmevil> eobanb: im bot sure what that is
[08:51] <factorx> doesn't have ubuntu have a glibc package?
[08:51] <eobanb> Evilsmevil, can you rephrase your question
[08:52] <nickrud> factorx, it's libc6 here
[08:52] <EnterUserName> Whats an easy way to find the url of your print server?
[08:52] <EnterUserName> if your on the print server?
[08:52] <Evilsmevil> ok, i need to access a webpage but i dont need to look at its contents
[08:52] <JonBoon> how do i chmod 644 to an entire folder? its for apache
[08:52] <eobanb> Evilsmevil, so what do you need to do with it then?
[08:52] <lsuactiafner> ppl ive convinced my flatmate to use ubuntu, now xinerama and ATI has screwed X over. does it work or shouldnt i bother with the setup?
[08:52] <dballesg> If I do an lspci I got a lot on Unknown devices
[08:52] <samuli> JonBoon, man chmod ;)
[08:53] <Evilsmevil> nothing, when the server recieves a request for that page it switches track
[08:53] <factorx> nickrud, seems I have installed libc6, but why isn't there an stdio.h anywhere then?
[08:53] <Morimando> JonBoon, chmod 644 <folder> -R
[08:53] <Calgar> please help me! i installed ubuntu yesterday and used the inbult partion resizer to resize my windows ntfs partion, now i just tried to boot windows and it refused to boot! ( see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14017 for a screenshot)
[08:53] <Morimando> iirc
[08:53] <Evilsmevil> i got it working where i use: firefox http://<hostname>/next
[08:53] <basilio> hi all....can someone help me.....
[08:53] <Evilsmevil> but that launches firefox which i dont want
[08:53] <eobanb> Evilsmevil, so you're running a webserver...?
[08:53] <Evilsmevil> yes
[08:53] <basilio> im trying to watch a .avi and divx with totem but i cant.....any adevice?
[08:53] <Evilsmevil> i know its a bit strange!
[08:53] <eobanb> Evilsmevil, you made it sound as if you wanted to access a remote page
[08:54] <samuli> basilio, do you have right codecs installed?
[08:54] <EnterUserName> where dxo you findx cups error messages
[08:54] <[1] Peter> Sorry to jump in, but has anybody had a problem with Amarok having the play audio CD greyed out?
[08:54] <nickrud> factorx, install the libc6-dev package; -dev packages have the stuff for compiling,
[08:54] <samuli> !tell basilio about restricted_formats
[08:54] <factorx> ah, okay
[08:54] <Evilsmevil> well i guess technically i do, but i just need to ASK for the page,
[08:54] <basilio> samuli: i dont think so...im a newbie with linux and ubuntu
[08:54] <pundai> sladen, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/44732
[08:54] <EnterUserName> hello
[08:54] <samuli> !tell basilio about restricted formats
[08:54] <jramsey> Evilsmevil, so when someone accesses a known page and ur web server serves the page u want to change track on some dvd?
[08:54] <EnterUserName> Where do you find cup daemon error messages.
[08:54] <kennethlove> eobanb: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WcNMgz38.html
[08:54] <eobanb> Evilsmevil, you really need to put you question a different way, because i still have no idea what you're talking about
[08:55] <jramsey> eobanb, i am trying to drill down :)
[08:55] <dballesg> I found on NVidia the drivers but aks me to recompiling the kernel, and on Linux I am a nerd newbie! :(
[08:55] <jramsey> whiskey tango foxtrot
[08:55] <samuli> basilio, try the link ubotu pasted you :)
[08:55] <Evilsmevil> lol ok eobanb
[08:55] <basilio> thanks samuli
[08:55] <hupp3l> hey guys i have abig problem and i dont know how to fix it
[08:56] <samuli> basilio, and remember to ask for help if there's something confusing you.
[08:56] <odyssey> hello what is the best software to run lan
[08:56] <Evilsmevil> eobanb: I have a webserver running on one computer, it controls a media player. the web server tells the media player to change tracks when the page /next is accessed
[08:56] <odyssey> to access both pc on the lan
[08:56] <JonBoon> Morimando, that just made it so i cant access the page now
[08:56] <JonBoon> http://69.92.13.63/stuff/
[08:56] <eobanb> Evilsmevil, well you could have just said that from the beginning
[08:56] <Calgar> please help me! i installed ubuntu yesterday and used the inbult partion resizer to resize my windows ntfs partion, now i just tried to boot windows and it refused to boot! ( see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14017 for a screenshot)
[08:56] <crazy_penguin> hi all
[08:56] <||arifaX> Evilsmevil, use wget
[08:56] <samuli> odyssey, are you using linux - linux or linux - windows setup?
[08:56] <hupp3l> i had ubuntu installed but I removed it from windows. with it i removed grub bootloader and now i cant boot. I have the ultimate boot cd but i dont know what to do
[08:57] <Evilsmevil> wget yeah that would work
[08:57] <Morimando> JonBoon, maybe it's the wrong chmod?
[08:57] <hroit> nick jackn
[08:57] <Evilsmevil> lol that worked a treat thanks ||arifaX!
[08:57] <JonBoon> 644 is the one i use on individual files
[08:57] <Evilsmevil> yeah sorry that i wasnt clear in what i wanted
[08:57] <odyssey> what software do you use to access both pcs on the lan
[08:57] <eobanb> Evilsmevil, i'd just write some sort of little dmon that listens on port 80 for any TCP connections and when it receives one, ssh's to the other box and runs whatever it needs to do on the music server machine to change the track
[08:58] <crazy_penguin> a friend of mine who's using ubuntu has the following problem
[08:58] <Morimando> JonBoon, well it's now on every file in the directory, either apache doesn't like this mode or the apache user doesn't have read permission now
[08:58] <dballesg> Ok going to dinner here I'll try to comeback later
[08:58] <Evilsmevil> eobanb: im just using wget but thanks for the help :)
[08:58] <odyssey> ubuntu samuli
[08:58] <Morimando> JonBoon, iirc it must be readable for www-data user
[08:58] <hupp3l> anyone think they can help me?
[08:58] <odyssey> to access a windows pc
[08:58] <samuli> odyssey, then you're best of with samba sharing
[08:59] <samuli> !tell odyssey about samba
[08:59] <odyssey> ok so the wiki should help me
[08:59] <odyssey> oops thank didnt see that
[08:59] <samuli> odyssey, better than we can I think :)
[08:59] <JonBoon> i'd like to just make this folder so anyone can see pics i post, etc.
[09:00] <odyssey> no you gyus have been great help thankyou
[09:00] <ponijs> how do I see what dns servers I'm using?
[09:00] <samuli> odyssey, if you have specific problem setting it up the guide way then come and ask us. I'm sure someone can always help out.
[09:00] <ponijs> nvm
[09:01] <Morimando> JonBoon, have you looked if the files are readable for www-data ?
[09:01] <samuli> Calgar, it might be that fdisk (or gparted) borged your ntfs-partition..
[09:01] <hupp3l> i had ubuntu installed but I removed it from windows. with it i removed grub bootloader and now i cant boot. I have the ultimate boot cd but i dont know what to do
[09:01] <samuli> calgar, can you mount /dev/hda1 with live cd?
[09:02] <jramsey> hupp3l, why would u remove grub??
[09:02] <Calgar> samuli: couldnt i just try with the linux install im on?
[09:02] <hupp3l> i have no idea. i removed my linux partition from partition magic
[09:02] <ahmad> Hey
[09:02] <hupp3l> and it musthave removed grub with it
[09:02] <ahmad> I need some help
[09:02] <samuli> calgar, yeah. of course.. I messed you up with hupp3l I guess.
[09:02] <||arifaX> Calgar, you could try booting from your xp cd and go into recovery console. do a fixmbr and a fixboot there?
[09:02] <tyler> can someone help me with firefox install?
[09:03] <roe> ahmad: fire away
[09:03] <kennethlove> anyone: apt-get gives me 404s. even after an update and checking that the sources are correct.
[09:03] <ahmad> can someone assist me? Does anybody use gimp, or know when i try to put somethin in usr/lib/w.e  i cant put something there it says you dont have permission
[09:03] <Calgar> ||arifax: i only have a recovery disk......
[09:03] <jramsey> hupp3l, reinstall ubuntu and let it repartitition ur disk
[09:03] <jramsey> it will put grub in the boot sector then
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> ahmad,  you have to be root or use sudo to do that.
[09:03] <||arifaX> Calgar, well, then "recover" :)
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> ahmad,  linux FUNdamentals. :P
[09:03] <ahmad> ?
[09:03] <ahmad> lol
[09:04] <ahmad> i just started linux today <3
[09:04] <ponijs> I am annoyed
[09:04] <TheFuzzball> hello, I have a very annoying problem... when I start my computer it plays the startup sounds, when I log in it plays the startup sounds, when I run mplayer with a .mp3 file in konsole it plays sound, but kmix says "mixer cannot be found" and amaroK doesn't work either...
[09:04] <hupp3l> well im sending in my laptop for repairs and would like to not have grub as my loader. how can I reinstall the ntloader
[09:04] <samuli> Calgar, in case you have your linux intact, you might want to paste us your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> ahmad,  a normal 'user' cant  muck with the system wide stuff that way.
[09:04] <TheFuzzball> can I have some help with this please?
[09:04] <Morimando> ahmad, just save it in /home/ahmad then ^^
[09:04] <Calgar> ||arifax: that will bulldoze linux
[09:04] <ahmad> k
[09:04] <ahmad> ones ec
[09:04] <jramsey> hupp3l, u mean u want windows back on ur laptop
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> roe,  do more reading.. less banging. :P
[09:04] <Morimando> ahmad, nothing good can result from changing anything in /usr/lib or somewhere else that /home ;)
[09:05] <hupp3l> windows was always on and still is but i cant boot to it
[09:05] <hupp3l> i used to dual boot
[09:05] <ahmad> cuz i wanna install these brushed for gimp
[09:05] <Morimando> not if you don't know what you are doing
[09:05] <dylan_> is there a linux distribution that i can get that has virtually no programs by default?  id like to customize my own distro and download things independently
[09:05] <||arifaX> Calgar, You can use any windows cd since 2000 to do the fixboot and fixmbr stuff. ask on of your friends for a cd ?
[09:05] <whiter> dylan_ ubuntu can do that
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> ahmad,  you can most likely install them to some /home/username/.gimp dir on a per user basis
[09:05] <pianoboy3333> Can someone help me get a USB external 40GB drive working? I can't mount it since it doesn't have a deviace
[09:05] <spikeb> a debian base install has next to nothing on it
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> ahmad,  or use 'sudo' and the right commands to copy them to the other place.
[09:05] <whiter> dylan_ reinstall ubuntu but on boot from the cd type "server"
[09:05] <samuli> dylan, I doubt there's any 'easy' one.
[09:05] <jramsey> hupp3l, ur bootsector is whacked ... u can do what ||arifaX said about fixboot
[09:06] <Calgar> ||arifaX: wont that bulldoze GRUB?
[09:06] <whiter> dylan_ then it just installs the base and nothing else, not even X windows
[09:06] <roe> Dr_Willis:  fglrx + xorg + dual head + independend virtual resolutions = lots of headbanging :)
[09:06] <dylan_> whiter, but then there's no drivers, either.  how do i get all my drivers?
[09:06] <hupp3l> ah ok cool thanx i will do that
[09:06] <samuli> dylan_: but you might want to try the expert mode on ubuntu install, if you don't have anything against the actual distribution.
[09:06] <jramsey> hupp3l, or u can reinstall linux, dual boot it providing the windows partition is still there and u should then be back to dual boot
[09:06] <whiter> there are drivers and everything
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> roe,  actually fglrx has always been rather trivial under ubuntu for me. :P but i just use X and a clone on the tv out.
[09:06] <whiter> just no gui and minimal programs
[09:06] <Evilsmevil> hi, does anyone know how i can configure a key to launch a script?
[09:06] <whiter> your internet will work
[09:06] <whiter> your sound will work
[09:06] <whiter> etc etc
[09:07] <roe> Dr_Willis: yea getting my X to work out of the box was no problem, its the dual head and different resolutions that is proving impossible
[09:07] <whiter> thats how i installed my ubuntu dylan_, i built it up myself basically
[09:07] <jramsey> Evilsmevil, !keyboard shortcuts
[09:07] <kennethlove> anyone: apt-get gives me 404s. even after an update and checking that the sources are correct. ping and torrents are working, just not apt-get.
[09:07] <dylan_> samuli, whats 'expert' do?
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> roe,  i saw that 'mepis' had a nice dual-head configuration tool. i tested out their live cd.. and 'borrowed' their config. :P
[09:07] <Old> how do i give a user full access on my ftp to a dir? It seems like when he creates a folder in /var/www/cstrike/ he cant access it, but he can access the other folders.
[09:07] <dylan_> whiter, what is the formula for downloading drivers?  is there a common filename criteria?
[09:07] <roe> kennethlove:  what package are you are installing
[09:08] <ahmad> willis whats sudo can you help em
[09:08] <Evilsmevil> !keyboard shortcuts
[09:08] <ubotu> hmm... keyboard shortcuts is modifiable at System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts, or at http://www.gnome.org/learn/access-guide/2.10/ch03.html#keynav-2
[09:08] <kennethlove> roe: any. none of them are coming down
[09:08] <samuli> dylan, you can, for example, extensively edit what packages installation install by default.
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> ahmad,  time to do some reading and learnin gof the basics of linux. start by typing "!sudo" and read the bots message/urls
[09:08] <Evilsmevil> thanks jramsey
[09:08] <roe> kennethlove:  you can do apt-get update?
[09:08] <ahmad> k
[09:08] <ahmad> !sudo
[09:08] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:08] <jramsey> Evilsmevil, yw
[09:08] <kennethlove> roe: update gets nothing but 404s.
[09:09] <Old> how do i give a user full access on my ftp to a dir? It seems like when he creates a folder in /var/www/cstrike/ he cant access it, but he can access the other folders.
[09:09] <dylan_> samuli, because for smoe reason ... firefox 1.0.8 seems really slow when there's an image-intensive page
[09:09] <dylan_> like digg.com
[09:09] <roe> kennethlove:  do an apt-get clean
[09:09] <samuli> dylan_: firefox is pretty slow.
[09:09] <kennethlove> roe: ok
[09:09] <samuli> dylan_: you might want to try and upgrade it to 1.5
[09:09] <kennethlove> roe: update still gets 404
[09:09] <samuli> dylan_: much faster.
[09:09] <dylan_> samuli, is there a .deb for that?
[09:10] <samuli> !tell dylan_ about firefox
[09:10] <dylan_> samuli, because i know the /opt/firefox/ trick by heart, but i also know that when i apt-get dist-upgrade everything will go to shit.
[09:11] <samuli> dylan_ I dist-upgraded from hoary to breezy with ff1.5 and nothing got shit for me.
[09:11] <samuli> dylan, but if you want to dist-upgrade from breezy you will be getting ff1.5 by default
[09:11] <facu> alguien habla espaol y puede darme una mano???????????
[09:11] <selinium> dylan_, samuli: Please Watch Your Language
[09:11] <roe> kennethlove:  does apt-cache searches work?
[09:11] <selinium> :)
[09:11] <dylan_> selinium, sorry
[09:11] <amnezia> hi
[09:11] <samuli> selinium, please!
[09:12] <dylan_> selinium, no worries
[09:12] <kennethlove> roe: yep
[09:12] <selinium> samuli: I got the smile on the next line! :) Sorry!
[09:12] <amnezia> can anybody give me some info how to enable/control 5.1 channel audio playback?
[09:12] <samuli> lol :)
[09:12] <selinium> :)
[09:12] <|Sivik|> why am i having issues opening a 939kb open office file?
[09:12] <roe> was it ever working?
[09:13] <kennethlove> roe: apt-get? yeah, it's worked fine up to now (well, one other instance of this, but i can't find my notes on how to fix it)
[09:13] <roe> and does synaptics work?
[09:13] <sladen> pundai: was that you filing bug #44732 ?
[09:14] <pundai> sladen, i think so
[09:14] <kennethlove> roe:  i'm not sure, i'm through an ssh tunnel. :) but, last time, no
[09:14] <kennethlove> roe: hold on. i'll try it through vnc
[09:14] <sladen> pundai: Dell XPS Gen 2?
[09:14] <pundai> sladen, yes
[09:15] <sladen> pundai: and you try going to a console  Ctrl-Alt-F1  and then running   sudo tail -0f /var/log/messages   and then pressing the Fn+F3 combination   (using Ctrl-C to kill the 'tail' and  Alt-F7  to switch back to X
[09:16] <roe> can you repost your sources? I am futzing with my xorg.conf so I have no irc history
[09:16] <kennethlove> roe: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WcNMgz38.html
[09:16] <pundai> sladen, no console at F* :(
[09:16] <pip`> anyone know if HAnna (Bubbles) ever comes here ??
[09:17] <sladen> pip`:  /query stargirl
[09:17] <pundai> sladen, i have no console for some reason
[09:17] <sladen> pundai: can you try that in a gnome-terminal and see whether you get any error messages saying that a key should be mapped
[09:17] <deep> Hello guys.
[09:17] <deep> : )
[09:17] <pundai> sladen, ok
[09:18] <sladen> pundai: and run    lshal -m   and try pressing the key aswell
[09:18] <dylan_> any distros faster and better than ubuntu breezy
[09:18] <dylan_> ?
[09:18] <deep> I need some help. I have installed XGL, and in KDE, X restarts when i dont want it to. So how to i uninstall XGL?
[09:18] <pundai> sladen, nothing with both
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> !xgl
[09:18] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:18] <roe> kennethlove: one sec, looking them over
[09:19] <ahmad> hey! Im ack
[09:19] <beasty> wb
[09:20] <pundai> hey! i'm syn
[09:20] <deep> Dr_Willis: Cant find anything about uninstalling it there.
[09:20] <ahmad> how do i install tar.gz file?
[09:20] <sladen> pundai: /usr/share/hotkey-setup/dell.hk  is the mapping currently done for Dell's
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> deep,  could just undo what directions you did. thers no quick-uninstall - and ive seen a dozen docs stating what to do to install it.
[09:21] <ahmad> how do i install tar.gz file?
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> ahmad,  nomally you dont
[09:21] <dylan_> anybody ever heard of a windows box being up for 6.5 years?
[09:21] <dylan_> or is that a lie someone told me?
[09:21] <tanath> for some reason, i can't keep my pc clock synchronized. i choose 'periodically synchronize clock with internet servers,' and have a working server selected, but it doesn't work, and is unchecked every time i go back
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> ahmad,  or you uncompress it.. then read their installd docs. that are normally called "INSTALL" in the archive
[09:21] <deep> Dr_Willis: Okay, thanQ. : )
[09:21] <tanath> dylan_: maybe if it was offline, and you never did anything on it :p
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> deep,   xgl is sooo... 'not ready for prime time' :P
[09:22] <tanath> can anyone help?
[09:22] <pundai> ah crap, i apt-get upgraded
[09:22] <pundai> damnit
[09:22] <pundai> libc update... im screwed
[09:22] <ahmad> thanks willis i love you
[09:22] <tanath> it worked fine before i rebooted
[09:22] <pundai> sladen, brb (hopefully)
[09:23] <Polygon89> hello, i just got my sound card working and i was wondering if there is a way to make the volume control on the panel control a differeny channel
[09:23] <Polygon89> *different
[09:24] <tanath> can anyone help me with keeping my clock synchronized?
[09:24] <ahmad> sigh
[09:24] <ahmad> willis i need more help
[09:24] <ahmad> how i talk only to yo
[09:24] <jramsey> ok i used ctrl alt f1, switched to text terminal mode and couldn't get gnome back in graphics mode; whats the key sequence?
[09:25] <Polygon89> double click his username
[09:25] <ahmad> i did but nothin happened
[09:25] <sladen> jramsey: alt-F7
[09:25] <Polygon89> you using xchat?
[09:25] <ahmad> yes
[09:25] <isa> xD
[09:25] <jramsey> sladen, ty; i picked a bad time to experiment; i was mostly thru a kernel build :)
[09:25] <sladen> jramsey: it's useful if you prefix somebody's username before talking :)
[09:25] <Polygon89> right click his username and open up dialog window
[09:26] <ahmad> tthanks
[09:26] <Polygon89> anyime
[09:26] <sladen> tanath: !justask
[09:26] <andreasc89> how do I set the default size of the desktop icons?
[09:26] <ahmad> btw
[09:26] <jramsey> sladen, i know that but it was a general question not specific to any particular user
[09:26] <tanath> sladen: i have
[09:26] <ahmad> polygon do you know hwo to compile something, cuz i downloaded this tar.gz fikle uncompressed it adn went to the INSTALL thing and told me something i dont understand
[09:26] <pundai> hey sladen so the hotkey file, how do i figure out whats not working :D
[09:26] <tanath> for some reason, i can't keep my pc clock synchronized. i choose 'periodically synchronize clock with internet servers,' and have a working server selected, but it doesn't work, and is unchecked every time i go back
[09:27] <andreasc89> so that when I plug in the mp3, a BIG icon appaers on the desktop
[09:27] <andreasc89> now I have to go to stretch icon
[09:27] <tanath> it worked fine before i rebooted
[09:27] <sladen> pundai: so what happens if you do  Ctrl-Alt-F1
[09:27] <andreasc89> can't I set a default size  of it?
[09:27] <andreasc89> so that all icons on the desktop gets big directly
[09:27] <osotogari> Hey all, just wondering has anyone had a problem with their screensaver slowing down. i have had my machine on fro about 2 weeks now and the screensaver has slowed down to a crawl
[09:27] <pundai> sladen, with c-a-F1,i get a blank screen
[09:27] <|Sivik|> !modprobe
[09:27] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, |Sivik|
[09:27] <andreasc89> without having to stretch them manually
[09:28] <sladen> tanath: can you file a bug please.  it should do the sync'ing on each boot too
[09:28] <sladen> pundai: with some text on it?
[09:28] <Polygon89> ahmad, use a seprae window, easier
[09:28] <dylan_> tanath, is that just linux fanboy behavior or the actual truth?  can windows really be that bad?  ive only used a mac and this linux box really.
[09:28] <andreasc89> anyone knows?
[09:28] <pundai> sladen, nothing
[09:28] <pundai> totally blank
[09:28] <tanath> sladen: it does, but i want it to keep synchronizing automatically as it should
[09:28] <sladen> pundai: what happens if you press enter or something, or try  Ctrl-Alt-F2  etc
[09:28] <pepo> my wifi can not get IP from router, its a broadcom 43xx, i did install firmware, and the ligth its on, but i can not get IP
[09:28] <tanath> dylan_: it certainly can be. i used to fix people's computers all the time, and all i used before was windows...
[09:29] <sladen> tanath: does it succed, or do you have a firewall in the way?
[09:29] <pundai> sladen, nothing from F1-F6
[09:29] <tanath> sladen: it succeeds. it just won't 'remember' the setting, and only synchronizes the one time when i hit OK
[09:29] <sladen> pundai: okay, so that's a bug aswell.  Do you have Nvidia/ATI graphics?
[09:29] <pepo> DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
[09:29] <Polygon89> ahmad you there?
[09:29] <tanath> sladen: then it's unchecked when i go back again
[09:30] <andreasc89> any idea?
[09:30] <pundai> sladen, i dont think its a bug because i was messing with it before i upgrdaed to dapper (changed # of consoles to 1)
[09:30] <pundai> sladen, nvidia
[09:30] <chief_> lo
[09:30] <osotogari> Hey all, just wondering has anyone had a problem with their screensaver slowing down. i have had my machine on fro about 2 weeks now and the screensaver has slowed down to a crawl
[09:30] <pepo> and with de ndiswapper dont work
[09:30] <sladen> tanath: it pops up a message saying "Please install NTP"
[09:30] <sladen> tanath: and then unticks the box because it's not installed
[09:31] <osotogari> speaking of ndiswrapper, can i install it through apt-get?
[09:31] <tanath> sladen: no, ntp is installed. as i said, it worked before reboot
[09:31] <tanath> sladen: that box does not appear
[09:32] <sladen> tanath: can you file a bug report: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+filebug
[09:33] <sladen> pundai: oh, right, that's a separate bug with the Nvidia driver.  But because it's the Nvidia binary driver it's impossible to fix it (no source code)
[09:33] <chief_> anyone know how to get more fps in counter strike source??
[09:33] <sladen> chief_: get a faster machine
[09:34] <pundai> sladen, you're kidding
[09:34] <chief_> lol nice reply
[09:34] <sladen> osotogari: the screensaver will slow down to save battery
[09:34] <sladen> !ndiswrapper
[09:34] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:35] <sladen> osotogari: ^^
[09:36] <pundai> so sladen how can i check my nvidia driver version
[09:36] <JonBoon> what is a good ftp client for ubuntu?
[09:36] <Tetrahedron> you can download fireftp extension for firefox
[09:36] <ironcladlou> where can i get instructions on getting metacity's composite manager running with dapper 6.06b2?
[09:37] <sladen> pundai: the Nvidia bug is https://launchpad.net/bugs/32389
[09:37] <Tetrahedron> does anyone know how to change the channel that volume control, controls?
[09:37] <james_xxx> can anyone tell me how to eject a CD from the CD drive ?? lol
[09:37] <schtinky> I've got a  remote server with a clock skew... I've tried starting ntpd, but it hasn't helped, can someone assist me?
[09:37] <pundai> sladen, thats awesome
[09:37] <pundai> in a :( way
[09:37] <sladen> james_xxx: press the eject button
[09:37] <zcat[1] > james_xxx: right-click the cd icon on the desktop and pick eject
[09:37] <Tetrahedron> or right click the cd in ubuntu and eject
[09:37] <james_xxx> sladen.... the eject button does nothing
[09:38] <james_xxx> no CD icon lol
[09:38] <zcat[1] > or alt-f2 and type 'eject' in the box
[09:38] <ironcladlou> also: has anybody experienced a flickering animated mouse cursor when using the latest nvidia driver?
[09:38] <sladen> james_xxx: does your CD drive have a physical eject button?
[09:38] <james_xxx> ok i did that... didn't work
[09:38] <JonBoon> Tetrahedron, its not compatible with this firefox :/
[09:38] <james_xxx> sladen, yes, but it isn't working
[09:38] <|Sivik|> james_xxx: restart the computer and eject during bootup
[09:39] <james_xxx> wow i wonder why it is doing this
[09:39] <zcat[1] > ironcladlou: no, but you don't want to see the flickering I get with xgl + gnome-screensavers
[09:39] <Jimmey__> Hello.
[09:39] <Tetrahedron> what version do you have? i have it installed on my windows firefox which runs 1.5..3
[09:39] <Tetrahedron> or whatever
[09:39] <sladen> james_xxx: if the CD is in use then it won't get ejected
[09:39] <sladen> james_xxx: so you have no icon on your desktop?
[09:39] <james_xxx> hmmm
[09:39] <JonBoon> 1.07
[09:39] <zcat[1] > james_xxx: open a terminal and type 'eject.. it should at least tell you the problem that way.
[09:39] <Tetrahedron> thats most likly why
[09:39] <james_xxx> sladen, no, i have never had a CD icon on my ubuntu desktop
[09:39] <Jimmey__> I'm having trouble adding the multiverse repositories with nano ( I installed a server ). I need them enabled to install xubuntu-desktop, I think
[09:39] <ironcladlou> zcat[1] : i wasn't very impressed with xgl+compiz. that's why i'm curious about metacity's compositing support. less useless crap, more function (hopefully more stable)
[09:39] <zcat[1] > sladen: probably something's still accessing a file on the cd?
[09:40] <Tetrahedron> if you dont want to upgrade then there are some other actual ubuntu programs that can do it
[09:40] <gr33npho3nix> james_xxx: what does sudo umount /media/cdrom say
[09:40] <Jimmey__> What should I add to breezy's sources.list to add the multiverse repositories?
[09:40] <ironcladlou> i simply want accelerated functional stuff, like resizing windows, menu drawing, etc.
[09:40] <JonBoon> im gonna upgrade, i didtn know there was a newer one
[09:40] <zcat[1] > ironcladlou: dunno.. I wasn't having much luck with the latest builds but I got some good tips on #ubuntu-xgl yesterday.. now it's sweet (again..)
[09:40] <Tetrahedron> yeah
[09:41] <kennethlove> anyone: apt-get gives me 404s. even after an update and checking that the sources are correct. ping and torrents are working, just not apt-get.
[09:41] <Tetrahedron> btw this fourm post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33183 has some ftp programs
[09:41] <JonBoon> thanks!
[09:41] <ironcladlou> zcat[1] : i wonder if those folks would know about the metacity compositing thing
[09:41] <Tetrahedron> and some other windows to linux programs
[09:41] <james_xxx> sudo: unmount: command not found
[09:41] <Jimmey__> kennethlove, sounds like a server problem
[09:41] <dmbt> i really ned to know if theres a guide on howto setup and use ipv6!
[09:41] <Tetrahedron> as in (windows equivilant)
[09:41] <zcat[1] > compiz isn't much practical use, but the reaction when 'doze users see it is totally worth it :)
[09:41] <osotogari> @ sladen: I running it on a desktop
[09:41] <Jimmey__> dmbt, try man ifconfig ( or iwconfig, if it's a wireless device )
[09:42] <kennethlove> Jimmey__: it's all the servers, so i'm sure it's not them. besides, lynx always shows my local apache2 page
[09:42] <Tetrahedron> does anyone know how to change what channel the volume thing on the panel controls?
[09:42] <dmbt> Jimmey__: its a bit more compilicated than that
[09:42] <sladen> zcat[1] : Menubar->Places->Computer ?
[09:42] <james_xxx> i will just restart i think, lol. i was trying to install a usn linksys wireless device using drivers from the CD when this happened
[09:42] <dmbt> i need a howto, like the one gentoo provided
[09:42] <dmbt> i might have to make one myself
[09:42] <james_xxx> usb*
[09:42] <Jimmey__> You might want to search the wiki, then
[09:42] <dmbt> i did that
[09:42] <tomas_> hi
[09:43] <Jimmey__> Oh
[09:43] <dmbt> they don't have very many articles on ipv6 at all
[09:43] <zcat[1] > sladen: That's an option, the CD icon will be there.. or accessories>terminal ..
[09:43] <tomas_> is there a channel for amd64
[09:43] <Tetrahedron> does anyone know how to change what channel the volume thing on the panel controls?
[09:44] <sladen> Tetrahedron: if it changes the wrong channel, please file a bug:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+filebug  saying what channel it /should/ control and it'll get fixed
[09:44] <zcat[1] > If something's got the cdrom in use, 'sudo fuser -k /dev/cdrom' should kill it..
[09:44] <sladen> Tetrahedron: lots of machines use the channel differently and need workarounds
[09:44] <bluesign> how can I make adapter duplex and speed changed persistant?
[09:44] <tomas_> I need to compile madwifi driver
[09:44] <sladen> tomas_: it's built in
[09:45] <kennethlove> !seen nlogax
[09:45] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'nlogax', kennethlove
[09:45] <tomas_> sladen: I need to patch it!!
[09:45] <sladen> tomas_: if you need to patch it, please can you file a bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+filebug with the patch so that it can be added to the main kernel
[09:45] <Tetrahedron> sladen: is there a bug reporthing think for 2.6.12-10-386
[09:45] <Tetrahedron> ?
[09:46] <tomas_> its aireplay from aircrack patch you know
[09:46] <pundai> ok sladen i got the console back (removed splash option from boot), but still no output from /var/log/messages
[09:47] <sladen> pundai: what about  showkey -u
[09:47] <sladen> pundai: (wait 10seconds for it to exit)
[09:47] <Abountu> is it possible to have GoogleEarth running using wine or something like that?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> Abountu: yes
[09:47] <gnomefreak> !googleearth
[09:47] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:47] <gnomefreak> grrrr
[09:47] <gnomefreak> thers a wiki on it
[09:48] <sladen> pundai: according to http://www.columbia.edu/~ariel/acpi/acpi_howto.txt that machine has buggy ACPI
[09:48] <Abountu> gnomefreak: thank you, I'll look there
[09:48] <Larsson-Sweden> What's the dapper channel called?
[09:48] <pundai> sladen, Fn+ESC gives me nothing, Fn+F1/F3 gives me 0xe0 0x25 and 0xe0 0x71
[09:48] <sladen> Larsson-Sweden: er?
[09:48] <pundai> sladen, fantastic
[09:48] <sladen> Larsson-Sweden: #ubuntu
[09:49] <Larsson-Sweden> sladen, that's this channel.
[09:49] <sladen> Larsson-Sweden: yes
[09:49] <Larsson-Sweden> I know there is a dapper channel for dapper questions.
[09:49] <ben42> Larsson-Sweden: #ubuntu+1
[09:49] <Jku> Ubuntu+1
[09:49] <Larsson-Sweden> ben42, thanks!
[09:49] <kennethlove> anyone: apt-get gives me 404s. even after an update and checking that the sources are correct. ping and torrents are working, just not apt-get.
[09:49] <omeg> Hi all
[09:50] <pundai> sladen, where does it say its buggy
[09:50] <omeg> I don't have an Ubuntu-specific question but do any of you know of a good open source video manipulation program?
[09:50] <ben42> omeg: maybe kino
[09:50] <sladen> pundai: search for "Gen 2"
[09:50] <Dyngo> I can't enter gdesklets' website... can you guys?
[09:50] <sladen> pundai: search for "xpsgen2" even
[09:51] <sladen> omeg: kino, there are several others too
[09:51] <comrade> what's a repository that has vlc media player in it?
[09:51] <pundai> sladen, i still don't get what says buggy.. can you paste the phrase you are thinking of
[09:52] <Larsson-Sweden> Is there a config file for Epiphany? It has very few options.
[09:52] <omeg> sladen: that looks pretty cool, but it seems that it's Linux-only. This is for a friend of mine, and he runs Windows. Do you know one that's also ported for Windows?
[09:52] <sladen> pundai: "Reserved method must return a value (_WAK)
[09:52] <sladen> pundai: "Method (_S0D, 0, NotSerialized)
[09:52] <sladen> pundai: "Unknown reserved name ^  (_S0D)
[09:53] <pundai> it also says warnings can be ignored...
[09:53] <sladen> pundai: anyway, back to the two keycodes you found
[09:53] <sladen> pundai: we can use those
[09:53] <Napoleon> comrade: I'm not sure, but I can install it and I only have the multi/universe/etc repos enabled. Nothing special.
[09:53] <pundai> sladen, in the .hk file?
[09:54] <Ponijs> how do I share files from windows to my unik box without ssh?
[09:54] <sladen> pundai: Fn+F1/F3 gives me 0xe0 0x25 and 0xe0 0x71  <-- can you post those two onthe bug report
[09:55] <sladen> pundai: can you also post the DMI decode data so that I can identify your laptop (see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HotkeyResearch)
[09:55] <pundai> ok sladen
[09:55] <pundai> will do
[09:55] <sladen> pundai: ta
[09:58] <pundai> sladen, i updated the bug with the info you suggested
[09:59] <tanath> sladen: bug filed: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/44737
[09:59] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:59] <mirak> how to not have firestarter and iptables poluting the tty output ?
[10:00] <sladen> tanath: ta
[10:00] <pundai> so sladen is there anything i can do in the meantime with those keycodes
[10:00] <ironcladlou> I am trying to figure out how to enable metacity's compositing manager, but can't find any instructions for Dapper
[10:01] <comrade> Napoleon, I'm using nubuntu so it is flight6, is it possible there isn't a repository for it yet, or is there a way to get a list of available ones for flight
[10:01] <Napoleon> comrade: I don't even know what nubuntu is sorry.
[10:01] <Rayman_> is there a limit on connections sshd accepts by default?
[10:01] <Mabus06> Rayman_: Check ssh_config in /etc/ssh
[10:02] <NickGarvey> Rayman_: I'd check the config file
[10:02] <Mabus06> or it might be sshd_config
[10:02] <Rayman_> well.. I can't connect to he server atm, so I'm wondering how could that be. pinging works. :)
[10:02] <truz24> I am trying to use serpentine to burn an mp3 audio disc.  I am following the directions to install decoder plugins on http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#codecs, but it still fails when trying to add mp3s to the track list.  Do I need to restart?
[10:03] <pundai> hey sladen thanks for your help, anything i can do to help you fix it, let me know. im gonna go watch some ninja turtles n ow (still available tho)
[10:04] <ProN00b> why doesn't ubuntu use thunderbird as the default mail client instead of some shady no knows it thing ?
[10:04] <NickGarvey> ProN00b: gnome
[10:04] <gnomefreak> ProN00b: evolution = part of gnome
[10:04] <pundai> thunderbird is as bloated as evolution so evolution wins
[10:04] <ProN00b> noone cares
[10:04] <Harti> hello. when i will add or remove a printer over localhost:631, i become a promt for username and password http://mitglied.lycos.de/tharti/2006-05-13-235249_1024x768_scrot.png my name and pw doesnt go
[10:05] <ProN00b> NickGarvey, gnomefreak, it has firefox too, and i bet gnome has some own webbrowser...
[10:05] <gnomefreak> yes ProN00b it does
[10:05] <sladen> Harti: System->Administration->Printing
[10:05] <gnomefreak> its called epiphty
[10:05] <gnomefreak> (spelling)
[10:05] <truz24> I guess that means no one uses serpentine here.
[10:05] <ProN00b> gnomefreak, meaning your "gnome" or "part of gnome" argument is about nullified
[10:06] <Harti> slackern: i dont have gnome-cups-manger on my sys
[10:06] <Harti> sladen: i dont have gnome-cups-manger on my sys
[10:06] <ProN00b> pundai, alot of people already use thunderbird on windows, it would make switching easyer
[10:06] <sladen> Harti: I'm not sure how cups on :631 interacts with sudo
[10:06] <Harti> slackern: i have a customized xfce install and will add printer without gnome-cups-manager
[10:06] <gnomefreak> ProN00b: no its not evolution is part of gnome ubuntu devels decided to keep it as default
[10:07] <Mabus06> Why can my P4 2.8ghz processor not even handle running xchat, gaim, and totem at the same time without freaking out?
[10:07] <pundai> i would be all for replacing evolution with something like the 1.0 evolution
[10:07] <Harti> slackern: sorry ^^
[10:07] <tritium> ProN00b: evolution has features thunderbird does not support, such as exchange accounts.
[10:07] <Harti> sladen: sudo goes not
[10:07] <ProN00b> gnomefreak, epiphany is a part of gnome too, still its not on ubuntu
[10:07] <denver> what is the package name for flash player plugin for firefox
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ProN00b: i dont understand its on my ubuntu
[10:07] <ProN00b> tritium, exchange is microsoft technology, noone uses that, thats a reason for evolution to exist, not to have it as default on a distro
[10:08] <_jason> denver: flashplugin-nonfree in multiverse
[10:08] <denver> thanks
[10:08] <pundai> no one uses exchange...
[10:08] <pundai> ok buddy
[10:08] <gnomefreak> ProN00b: when i say evolution is part of gnome i mean its built into gnome
[10:08] <ProN00b> gnomefreak, epiphany isn't on my ubuntu
[10:08] <denver> i guess i need to add that to apt sources
[10:08] <_jason> ubotu: tell denver about multiverse
[10:08] <ProN00b> gnomefreak, what do you mean its build into gnome
[10:09] <ben42> Harti: you can try out this; http://bhaubeck.dyndns.org/wordpress/index.php/2005/12/21/ubuntu-breezy-cups-aktivieren-so-geht-das-wirklich/
[10:09] <gnomefreak> just like konkurer is built insto k-desktop
[10:09] <ben42> Harti: mostly in english
[10:09] <ProN00b> thats wrong, gnomefreak
[10:09] <gnomefreak> ProN00b: its part of gnome source code iirc
[10:09] <_jason> ProN00b: evolution is integrated into the gnome desktop, for example the calendar you get when you click on your clock
[10:09] <tritium> ProN00b: you are incorrect in thinking that nobody uses it.
[10:09] <funkyHat> ProN00b, built in like, the time applet displays evolution appointments if you click on it
[10:09] <ironcladlou> does anybody know if the latest dapper's gnome installation even has compositing compiled in?
[10:09] <Harti> ben42: thanks
[10:09] <ProN00b> it just means it has been made with gnome libs
[10:09] <tritium> ProN00b: many of us need it in our work environments, for one thing
[10:09] <tritium> pundai: many companies use it
[10:10] <KenSentMe> i'm running this howto http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ to install a postfix-courier-mysql mailserver. To test my settings i have to do 'telnet servername 25', but when i fill in localhost or something else i can't do other commands like ehlo. What am i doing wrong?
[10:10] <pundai> tritium, i wasnt implying something else
[10:10] <pundai> i was being sarcastic
[10:10] <ProN00b> tritium, if you want to drag it to a level of how many people use it, thunderbird will win because it runs on windows too
[10:10] <tritium> ProN00b: it may run on windows, but it doesn't support exchange, of which there are _many_ users
[10:11] <slackern> Harti: :)
[10:11] <gnomefreak> ok this has gotten to be more than just a question answer can we move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:11] <abarbaccia> hey all - quick question - whats the easiest way of backing up a partition to replicate it on another drive with a different sized partition?
[10:11] <abarbaccia> can i somehow just tar it and move it over?
[10:11] <tritium> abarbaccia: partimage
[10:11] <ProN00b> gnomefreak, nah, i will just ask again in ubuntu-devel
[10:11] <bbrazil> abarbaccia: for a different (smaller) size tar is good
[10:11] <pepo> eth1      Interface doesn't support IP addresses, how i can do for my interface can get ip?
[10:11] <Abountu> when I start synaptic it's giving me a warning at the begining: W: couldn't stat source package list cdrom://ubuntu 5.10_Breezy_Badger ..... stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:12] <pundai> btw, does anyone now why in dapper i cannot use alt-f2 to run applications anymore
[10:12] <shutdownrunner> where in /etc/ do I configure wireless card? I mean, I'm currently using my own script that I put into rc2.d and I'd like to do this in a bit nicer way
[10:12] <Abountu> how serious is that?
[10:12] <roniez> is it easy to switch from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[10:12] <abarbaccia> well, the partition i don't know the size of, all i know is the drive is a different size so i can't just DD the whole thing
[10:12] <NickGarvey> roniez: very
[10:12] <roniez> witch out  reinstalling.?
[10:12] <roniez> with*
[10:12] <bbrazil> abarbaccia: it's expecting the cd in the drive. Assuming you've other sources it's not an issue
[10:12] <NickGarvey> roniez: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:12] <NickGarvey> roniez: that easy ;)
[10:13] <roniez> kk can i then do remove kubuntu-desktop?
[10:13] <roniez> apt-get remove kubuntu i mean.
[10:13] <shutdownrunner> roniez:well first install gnome and then remove kde:)
[10:13] <NickGarvey> roniez: I.. think..?
[10:13] <roniez> of course.
[10:13] <Rayman_> roniez: it's not that easy?
[10:13] <NickGarvey> roniez: never done it so I wouldn't know
[10:14] <ProN00b> abarbaccia, just find out the size
[10:14] <gnomefreak> roniez: no
[10:14] <abarbaccia> ProN00b: size of what? the partition or the drive?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[10:14] <Mabus06> roniez: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop, and then sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <gnomefreak> Mabus06: ubuntu-desktop ;)
[10:14] <tritium> Mabus06: ubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <NickGarvey> Mabus06: ubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <NickGarvey> I felt left out
[10:15] <gnomefreak> and apt wont remove kubuntu-desktop
[10:15] <roniez> i was starting to like ubuntu more..
[10:15] <gnomefreak> well it will only remove that none of the apps or anything else
[10:15] <roniez> for some odd reason, i like kde sure, but ubuntu had better stuff.
[10:15] <Mabus06> gnomefreak for the win
[10:15] <gnomefreak> roniez: you can run them both
[10:15] <blaze> can i build exe files with Anjuta?
[10:15] <roniez> i onlt got a 20gb harddrive
[10:16] <roniez> i am using it on a laptop
[10:16] <lanselot> hello folks :) i want to ask you how to install and configure smtp server under ubuntu :)
[10:16] <ProN00b> abarbaccia, the partition
[10:16] <abarbaccia> should i just use this partimage software?
[10:16] <ProN00b> abarbaccia, what do you want to copy, a partition ?
[10:16] <zcat[1] > lanselot: sudo apt-get install postfix
[10:16] <blaze> =D
[10:16] <gnomefreak> blaze: i dont think you can but never tried im sure you would have to have another librart/app to make them cross platform
[10:17] <gnomefreak> library even
[10:17] <blaze> ok.. thanks gnomefreak :)
[10:17] <abarbaccia> ProN00b: i want to make a copy of the computer i have right now on a computer with identical hardware but a different HD size
[10:17] <Abountu> I have a warning whenever I start synaptic
[10:17] <lanselot> 10x zcat[1]  :) i'll try it
[10:17] <Abountu> can any one help?
[10:17] <gnomefreak> Abountu: what is the warning?
[10:18] <ProN00b> abarbaccia, well, you can't do that if the new disk is smaller, can you ?
[10:18] <abarbaccia> ProN00b: i only need the 1st partition, my home dir is in the 2nd partition and i dont care about that
[10:18] <Abountu> gnomefreak: it complains about files not found    W: couldn't stat source package list ( cdrom://ubuntu 5.10_Breezy_Badger....stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:19] <ProN00b> abarbaccia, well, as long as the new disk is equal in size or bigger, you can just dd over the whole disk
[10:19] <gnomefreak> Abountu: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[10:19] <Larsson-Sweden> I am using fluxbox with a theme. The menu, toolbars etc are that theme, but GTK application is grey and very ugly. For example, this xchat window is grey. Can this be fixed?
[10:19] <Skwid_> how do i use nautilus scripts that are in my home folder ?
[10:19] <abarbaccia> ProN00b: no, i can't do that - and i only want the 1st partition
[10:19] <gnomefreak> Abountu: i have this feeling all you need to do is add a # infront of the cdrom repo
[10:19] <_jason> Skwid_: put them in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/ and make sure they are +x
[10:20] <Skwid_> _jason: yep, did that, but in nautilus ?
[10:20] <ProN00b> abarbaccia, no idea how to do that, try the tool that some people recommended here
[10:20] <_jason> Skwid_: right click and there should be a scripts menu
[10:20] <Abountu> gnomefreak: where can I find the pastbin?
[10:20] <high-freq> Larsson-Sweden: have u tried Settings and then preferences?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[10:20] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:20] <serp> what file do I use to generate new locales in dapper? /etc/locale.gen doesn't exist
[10:21] <Abountu> !pastebin
[10:21] <gnomefreak> Abountu: just read the output ubotu posted when i did it
[10:22] <bud> i just installed breezy and the nvidia drivers, i have sound in my OS but not planetpenguin-racer.... ???
[10:22] <Abountu> gnomefreak: do you reckon I should comment out the firt line?
[10:22] <sladen> pundai: while you're still around, did you get any keycodes for the Wireless, Eject or VGA combinations?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> Abountu: just paste it first so i can look at it
[10:22] <pundai> sladen, i'll do it now
[10:22] <cvasilak> hello there, how can i disable ipv6 from loading at boot i am using dapper drake
[10:23] <Abountu> Ignomefreak:  past it it...  I think I did
[10:23] <gnomefreak> !ipv6
[10:23] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:23] <pundai> sladen, update on the bug?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> Abountu: can i have the new link it gave you
[10:23] <Abountu> gnomefreak : a ubotu tab opened and I paste it there
[10:23] <guerby> hi anyone using aic7xxx around? 0000:01:07.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7892A U160/m (rev 02)
[10:23] <gnomefreak> cvasilak: for future dapper questions can you please ask in @ubuntu+1
[10:24] <Abountu> gnomefreak: what link ? to the file? /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:24] <guerby> dmesg says [  419.729780]  aic7xxx: Unknown symbol spi_populate_sync_msg
[10:24] <guerby>  when I do modprobe aic7xxx
[10:24] <gnomefreak> Abountu: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste the list there
[10:24] <gnomefreak> ;) jayt thanks
[10:24] <Ponijs> can I pop a window saying something for another user vai ssh?
[10:24] <Ponijs> *via
[10:24] <Larsson-Sweden> high-freq, epiphany or fluxbox question?
[10:25] <bud> hey does anyone know why i have sound in gnome but not when i go into planetpenguin?
[10:25] <Skwid_> _jason: i don't see it in the context menu
[10:25] <mbornet> hi
[10:27] <Abountu> gnomefreak: here the paste : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14025
[10:27] <pepo> Installed ndis drivers:
[10:27] <pepo> bcmwl5          driver present, hardware present
[10:27] <pepo> but i can not get IP from the router
[10:28] <bud> can anyone tell me how i can convert a disk from ntfs to something i can r/w in breezy w/out losing all the data?
[10:28] <Skwid_> anyone know a good music tag manager ???
[10:28] <Skwid_> i need to be able to rename files with the tags etc
[10:28] <gnomefreak> Abountu: just up a # infront of the cdrom repo and save close run sudo apt-get update
[10:28] <Ponijs> I can't find how to change screen gamma in gnome control center
[10:29] <Abountu> gnomefreak: thank you
[10:29] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:30] <Ponijs> how the f* do I configure gamma in gnome :/
[10:31] <serp> how do I install a new locale on dapper?
[10:31] <tritium> Ponijs: calm down please
[10:31] <ranpha> hi is the sound card on a ICH6 supported in ubuntu dapper 6.06???
[10:31] <XiXaQ> hmm. Suddenly, I cannot open downloaded .torrent-files. The programs doesn't recognize the encoding. Does anyone recognize the problem?
[10:31] <tritium> serp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:32] <tritium> yes, ranpha
[10:32] <Ponijs> ah, xgamma
[10:32] <serp> tritium: that doesn't give me any options
[10:32] <serp> it just goes through the existing locales and says that thy're varified
[10:33] <ranpha> good...because the only distri that give a sound is opensuse and i don't find it working proberly
[10:33] <aLPHa_LeaK> n8
[10:33] <slackern> serp: System->Administratior->Language Support
[10:33] <slackern> Administratior/Administration
[10:33] <tritium> serp: see if you have that.  It may only be in dapper (can't recall if it's in breezy)
[10:34] <ProN00b> ranpha, you need to find out what audio driver the suse kernel uses and then you can enable that driver in the ubuntu kernel by adding it as a module or recompiling the kernel
[10:34] <slackern> tritium: ahh you might be right im running dapper only.
[10:34] <ocked> me likey ubuntu dapper beta
[10:34] <Ponijs> xgamma, it does nothing
[10:34] <serp> I'm on dapper too
[10:34] <Ponijs> I write xgamma -gamma 2.5 and nothing happens
[10:34] <serp> otherwise I wouldn't ask about dapper :P
[10:34] <Old> how do i give a user full access on my ftp to a dir? It seems like when he creates a folder in /var/www/cstrike/ he cant access it, but he can access the other folders.
[10:35] <slackern> serp: you should actually post in #ubuntu+1 channel then too :)
[10:35] <tritium> serp: this is not the channel for dapper (#ubuntu+1 is)
[10:35] <serp> oh cool I didn't know that
[10:35] <serp> thanks
[10:35] <deep> Hey there.
[10:36] <deep> Im playing Quake 3 through wine. And i need to encrese brightness a little, can i do some wineflag to do that?
[10:36] <satya> hello, I installed Ubuntu 5.1 yesterday; I need this command called "autopoint" to execute a build script; I dont find it installed; where can I get it? thanks
[10:37] <Ponijs> XGAMMA
[10:37] <Ponijs> IT DOES NOTHING
[10:37] <slackern> !patience
[10:37] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[10:37] <tritium> Ponijs: please don't use all caps
[10:37] <Old> how do i give a user full access on my ftp to a dir? It seems like when he creates a folder in /var/www/cstrike/ he cant access it, but he can access the other folders.
[10:41] <szoller> Can someone help me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14026
[10:43] <ocked> ooh ooh, i'll try!
[10:43] <tritium> szoller: do you have a glib development library installed?
[10:43] <szoller> sure
[10:43] <szoller> 1.2 and 2.0
[10:43] <tritium> szoller: libglib2.0-dev ?
[10:44] <sladen> pundai: if you press the Fn-Esc combination lots of times and use  'acpi_listen', does it always so  '000013' at the end, or does that number change?
[10:44] <keNzi> guys, how i can install new icons ?
[10:44] <ocked> might want to check out your gtk libraries, hrm
[10:44] <szoller> yes I have
[10:44] <ocked> i'm clueless, i'd be checking out the configure file
[10:44] <AlmtyBob> for some reason I have mysql 4.0 installed on my ubuntu box wiht mythtv, I want version 4.1, is it possible to upgrade without disturbing my databses?
[10:44] <sladen> keNzi: System->Prefences->Themes->Install New Theme
[10:45] <ocked> AlmtyBob, back up your database and try it
[10:45] <AlmtyBob> is there a simple command for backing up a database?
[10:45] <szoller> tritium, another idea?
[10:45] <ocked> AlmtyBob, ummm, i forget, lemme check
[10:45] <Ponijs> usermod: unknown group wheel
[10:46] <Ponijs> huh?
[10:46] <Ponijs> PATIENCE
[10:46] <tritium> szoller: no, sorry
[10:46] <Ponijs> IT DOES NOTHING
[10:46] <szoller> :(
[10:46] <ocked> AlmtyBob, http://www.devshed.com/c/a/MySQL/Backing-up-and-restoring-your-MySQL-Database/
[10:46] <Old> how do i give a user full access on my ftp to a dir? It seems like when he creates a folder in /var/www/cstrike/ he cant access it, but he can access the other folders.
[10:46] <AlmtyBob> thanks ocked
[10:46] <KingDong>  Hi ppls, I was wondering how to dissable the need for admin password when certain programs start up so I dont have to enter passwords all day. Can anyone help please?
[10:46] <Abountu> I am trying to run GoogleEarth through wine, somebody gave me the link http://ubuntu.cc.com.au to search in.. but there are no entries for google earth there
[10:46] <tritium> Ponijs: 10 minutes...
[10:46] <ocked> AlmtyBob, I'd test the backup and restore before doing the upgrade though
[10:47] <ocked> AlmtyBob, just to make sure you won't lose your data
[10:47] <Old> Anyone Trinisan ?
[10:47] <Old> tritium * ?
[10:48] <tritium> Old: what?
[10:48] <satya> can anyone tell me what is "autopoint" command and how I can get it for ubuntu..thanks!
[10:48] <tritium> satya: never heard of it
[10:49] <KingDong>  Hi ppls, I was wondering how to dissable the need for admin password when certain programs start up so I dont have to enter passwords all day. Can anyone help please?
[10:49] <ocked> Old, it may have to do with what the default permissions of created items are for the ftp user
[10:49] <ocked> Old, if he creates a folder and doesn't have execute permissions on it he can't navigate to it
[10:50] <AlmtyBob> why is it that the package manager lists "mysql-server" which is 4.0 and below that it has "mysql-server-4.1"?
[10:50] <AlmtyBob> do I need to uninstall 4.0 before I install 4.1?
[10:50] <szoller> tritium,  the line of the script, that causes the problem contains: "   { (exit gtk \and gaim required); exit gtk \and gaim required; }; }"
[10:50] <King911> nogle dansker?
[10:51] <ocked> AlmtyBob, the metapackage depends on 4.0 probably for some compatibility reasons
[10:51] <needlez> does anyone know how to get Nvidia drivers installed?
[10:51] <tritium> !nvidia
[10:51] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:51] <tritium> szoller: sorry, not sure
[10:51] <satya> tritium, google gave me this:http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/unix/a/autopoint.html
[10:51] <szoller> okay :(
[10:51] <ocked> AlmtyBob, and if you needed to uninstall 4.0 to install 4.1, the package manager would warn you
[10:51] <astrisk> while installing a package i got this msg "Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" so can any one tell me what to do??
[10:51] <ocked> AlmtyBob, and furthermore, why bother updating it?
[10:52] <AlmtyBob> ocked: stupid 4.0 doesn't have support have subqueries
[10:52] <ocked> AlmtyBob, if it works now and you have no reason to upgrade, why bother?
[10:52] <ocked> ouch
[10:52] <tritium> satya: you'll have to install from source.  it's not in the ubuntu repos
[10:52] <ocked> no subqueries?
[10:52] <AlmtyBob> and it's driving me nuts while trying to work with a many-to-many relationship I have
[10:52] <ocked> that's lame
[10:52] <Old> ocked, how do i give him the permissions?
[10:52] <AlmtyBob> yah isn't that the stupidest thing you've ever heard?
[10:52] <astrisk> while installing a package i got this msg "Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" so can any one tell me what to do??
[10:52] <tritium> no
[10:52] <AlmtyBob> even Microsoft Jet (access) has subqueries
[10:52] <satya> tritium: thanks, any idea where I can find the source then?
[10:52] <ocked> Old, not sure, might be ftp server dependent
[10:52] <tritium> satya: nope
[10:52] <ocked> Old, see the docs for the individual program
[10:52] <satya> ok thanks;
[10:53] <King911> gay?
[10:53] <ocked> AlmtyBob, yeah, that's bizarre.  Are you not for moving to dapper?  It uses 5.0 by default
[10:53] <NickGarvey> !tell King911 about gay
[10:53] <KingDong> How do I change programs permissions to allow any user to use it without a root password?
[10:53] <Old> ocked, been searching for hours, going nuts tbh.
[10:53] <AlmtyBob> when is dapper out?
[10:53] <astrisk> while installing a package i got this msg "Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" so can any one tell me what to do??
[10:53] <ocked> AlmtyBob, it's in beta, but it's being released in June, so it's very stable already
[10:54] <ocked> AlmtyBob, I'm already using it for three servers
[10:54] <AlmtyBob> it's been such a pain in the ass setting up breezy for my mythtv box I'll probably
[10:54] <ocked> Old, What FTP server?
[10:54] <AlmtyBob> wait
[10:54] <ocked> wait?
[10:54] <ocked> Old, proftpd? vsftpd?
[10:54] <astrisk> hello can any one help me..
[10:54] <AlmtyBob> I didn't complete my thought "setup's been such a pain in the ass I'll probably wait" is what I mean to say
[10:54] <AlmtyBob> 5.0 does look nice though
[10:55] <Old> proftpd ocked
[10:55] <ocked> astrisk, do you have anything using apt at the moment?
[10:55] <KingDong> How do I change programs permissions to allow any user to use it without a root password?
[10:55] <astrisk> ya also while using apt i got the same msg..
[10:55] <ocked> Old, just fyi, btw, proftpd has an excellent graphical configuration utility in dapper
[10:56] <ocked> astrisk, make sure the program installing the package is the only one using apt
[10:56] <ocked> astrisk, and the only one using dpkg
[10:56] <Old> ocked, im using ubuntu server :(
[10:56] <The_Hague> question: are the download images available on ubuntu.com updated regularly to include the latest patches or is it that once its released that image stays static and you just get the updates by doing; apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[10:56] <ocked> AlmtyBob, really there's no point on waiting anymore on dapper, it's pretty nice
[10:57] <ocked> The_Hague, they're static
[10:57] <ocked> The_Hague, update and upgrade
[10:57] <tritium> The_Hague: there are daily cdimage updates for development versions, but not for stable releases
[10:57] <astrisk> ocked, means i have to install using dpkg??
[10:57] <The_Hague> ok thats what i thought
[10:58] <The_Hague> is daper usable?
[10:58] <ocked> astrisk, no, it likely means something else is using apt at the moment so it can't get a lock and use it.  Only one application can use apt at a time
[10:58] <KingDong> How do I change programs permissions to allow any user to use it without a root password?
[10:58] <ocked> The_Hague, very much so, they're just working out the bugs for the final release next month
[10:58] <TheFuzzball> when I play sound in any app I can't hear it, but it is playing, and its not muted...
[10:58] <ocked> KingDong, depends on the program, it may be all but impossible
[10:58] <TheFuzzball> how do I fix this please
[10:58] <pundai> did smeone ping me
[10:58] <tritium> !tell KingDong about repeat
[10:59] <The_Hague> when is the release date?, should I just go ahead and grab daper n e wayz since Im doing an install today on me laptop?
[10:59] <tritium> June 1
[10:59] <astrisk> ocked, but i m not using synaptic also not installing update then who is using??
[10:59] <The_Hague> ok
[10:59] <KingDong> ocked, its my firewall
[10:59] <ocked> astrisk, i really don't know
[10:59] <koyotefr> Hi all, I'm looking for uninstall libraries
[10:59] <ocked> KingDong, you may not want another user to be able to use it.  Can you use gksudo or sudo to run it?
[10:59] <The_Hague> flight 7 is what I want huh
[10:59] <astrisk> ocked, ok thanx..
[10:59] <pundai> sladen, if i press Fn+ESC lots of times, the number always changes
[11:00] <KingDong> iam tired of putting the password in everytime I start it up.
[11:00] <sladen> KingDong: you start up?  where are you having to put the password in?
[11:00] <ocked> KingDong, there's good reason for only root to be able to edit it, sorry.
[11:00] <The_Hague> cant find the latest dapper
[11:00] <koyotefr> I tried to install libusb-0.1.12 and ... it failed. How do I make a clean unistall ?
[11:00] <ocked> The_Hague, /join #ubuntu+1
[11:00] <The_Hague> i found it
[11:01] <KingDong> Ya i dont want to put the password in. iam the only one useing this computer i just get tired of putting the password in.
[11:01] <sladen> pundai: okay, but the first number stays the same?
[11:01] <sladen> pundai: and does suspend-to-RAM work on your laptop?
[11:01] <pundai> sladen, suspend to ram=sleep right? if so, then yes
[11:02] <ocked> Old, http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-Umask.html
[11:02] <Old> looking at it now
[11:02] <ocked> kk
[11:02] <ocked> that's likely the issue
[11:02] <Joetheodd> Is there a quicken-type program on the repos?
[11:03] <tritium> Joetheodd: gnucash and grisbi
[11:03] <Pyter-Pank> hola
[11:03] <Champpc> neat, using my new phone
[11:03] <KingDong> ahhhhh.....:( u ppl no help
[11:03] <pundai> sladen, whoops Fn+ESC works now after commenting out the line in defaults/acpi-support
[11:03] <ocked> joedj, gnucash = the best
[11:03] <Joetheodd> pyter, tu habo english?
[11:03] <tritium> !es
[11:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:03] <Old> ocked, dont understand a shit tbh
[11:03] <Pyter-Pank> no
[11:03] <Champpc> anyone run dapper x64 version?
[11:03] <ubuntu> I'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, Using the LiveCD and overwriting the Windows Bootloader--"4. Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub)." How do i find out what my harddisk + partition numbers are, especially when I have linux on one hard-disk, and Windows on another?
[11:03] <tritium> Old: language please
[11:03] <astrisk> ocked, also while opening synaptic i got the following msg..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14028
[11:03] <ocked> Old, well, if you're trying to run an ftp server it's probably a good idea to figure it out
[11:04] <Old> ocked, It really doesnt give me any information, As I cant seem to find any examples, etc.
[11:04] <Old> tritium, sorry. Could you perhaps help me? I want to give a user full access to /var/www/cstrike with proftpd
[11:04] <pundai> and i pressed it m ultiple times so when i resume from sleep, it keeps making me sleep
[11:04] <pundai> and i pressed it m ultiple times so when i resume from sleep, it keeps making me sleep
[11:04] <pundai> please dont sleep again
[11:04] <NickGarvey> Joetheodd: heh, if you are asking some, say hablas ingles?
[11:04] <sladen> ubuntu: cat /etc/fstab
[11:04] <ocked> astrisk, just reload your package-list
[11:05] <ubuntu> thanks sladen
[11:05] <Champpc> no one here is running the x64 version?
[11:05] <sladen> !justaks
[11:05] <ubotu> sladen: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:05] <apokryphos> Champpc: of ubuntu?
[11:05] <Joetheodd> NickGarvey: huh?
[11:05] <pundai> hehehe
[11:05] <sladen> !justask
[11:05] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[11:05] <ocked> Champpc, sorry, not me
[11:05] <Champpc> yeah
[11:05] <tritium> Old: use chmod
[11:05] <apokryphos> Champpc: many in here are
[11:05] <Old> could you give me an example? Im not so experienced with ubuntu
[11:05] <Champpc> wondering what kind of issues i should expect
[11:05] <NickGarvey> Joetheodd: "you speak english?" "hablas ingles?"
[11:06] <ubuntu> sladen, I get:
[11:06] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab
[11:06] <ubuntu> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0
[11:06] <ubuntu> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[11:06] <ubuntu> /dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0
[11:06] <NickGarvey> !paste
[11:06] <Joetheodd> NickGarvey, oh.
[11:06] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[11:06] <ocked> tritium, that's only a temporary fix, he wants the directories created by the ftp user to be accessible
[11:06] <apokryphos> Champpc: no flash, no w32codecs.
[11:06] <alsa> what do i need to install to play avi vidz
[11:06] <Old> NickGarvey knows, remember me nick?
[11:06] <apokryphos> alsa: /msg ubotu restricted
[11:06] <NickGarvey> Old: yup
[11:06] <Champpc> or is there a siye dedicated to the x64  version? like whats needed to use 32bit apps and stuff
[11:06] <tritium> ocked: oh, he didn't specify that to me
[11:06] <selinium> !tell alsa about restricted
[11:06] <ocked> tritium, yeah, he's having proftpd issues
[11:06] <DeepBeigeMac> I need some help installing Ubuntu Linux on a Mac
[11:06] <sladen> ubuntu: okay, do   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[11:07] <apokryphos> Champpc: the only way in Ubuntu is to make a 32bit chroot
[11:07] <apokryphos> Ubuntu is unfortunately not BiArch
[11:07] <NickGarvey> Champpc: most 64 bit processors are backwards compatable with 32 bit programs
[11:07] <sladen> ubuntu: and look for the big one labelled Linux
[11:07] <alsa> how about this
[11:07] <alsa> ubuntu keeps my session saved
[11:07] <vitali> hi all
[11:07] <apokryphos> NickGarvey: yes, but you'd need to have a full new installation of Ubuntu, as it's not BiArch
[11:07] <alsa> i cant let it reboot into a fresh session
[11:07] <ocked> tritium, I pointed him here, I've got a project to do, but this seems to address it: http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-Umask.html
[11:07] <ubuntu> sladen, nothing happens
[11:07] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[11:07] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:07] <Old> Hey, could you help me out NickGarvey? Im having troubles with my ftp account, I want him to be able to see all the dirs, access them, change them, (full access) in /var/www/cstrike - but when he creates a new dir, he cant enter it.
[11:07] <alsa> i think its getting a slow performance in loading
[11:07] <sladen> NickGarvey: all amd64 ones are.   Others, (Sparc64, Itanium, Power4, Alpha... aren't)
[11:07] <tritium> ocked: thanks for point him to that.
[11:08] <sladen> ubuntu: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[11:08] <astrisk> ocked, while reloading i get the following error msg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14029
[11:08] <duckdown> Hey all... How can I make it so directories starting with .'s visible in programs when I have to browse for files?  It's getting VERY annoying.  For example, when I need to select "Sound" files, I can't access /home/duckdown/.xchat2/sounds because .xchat2 isn't visible in the file browser.  This goes for anything in GNOME.
[11:08] <ubuntu> ubuntu is on my second hard drive
[11:08] <Champpc> apok, seriously? so its not as compatible as say 64bit suse? they have biarch
[11:08] <sladen> duckdown: .* dotfiles are hidden files
[11:08] <ubuntu>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:08] <ubuntu> /dev/hda1   *           1        9728    78140128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:08] <apokryphos> Champpc: that's correct.
[11:08] <sladen> duckdown: if you just start typing the name of the hidden folder you can enter it
[11:08] <tritium> ubuntu: please don't paste here, ok?
[11:09] <apokryphos> Champpc: it's quite sad :(
[11:09] <ubuntu> ...
[11:09] <EnterUserName> bah
[11:09] <burzum> ubuntu - pastebin.com
[11:09] <EnterUserName> darn u ubuntug uys :)
[11:09] <ubuntu> I thought there was a 4 line rule or something like that
[11:09] <Old> NickGarvey, have any ideas regarding that trouble? As the user cant access the dir's he just created the ftp account is useless to him.
[11:09] <alsa> any one here knows how to make ubuntu STOP saving the session
[11:09] <sladen> ubuntu: you don't appear to have any Linux partitions?  Did you wipe them when installing Windows?
[11:09] <Champpc> ok, thanks again guys
[11:09] <ubuntu> They are on my second hard disk, like I said
[11:09] <ubuntu> as far as I know, hda is hard drive 1
[11:09] <pundai> hey sladen so sleep works now
[11:10] <james_xxx> what is the relationship between ubuntu and mepis? sometimes i see references to "ubunto-mepis" as if they were (at least nearly) the same thing
[11:10] <apokryphos> james_xxx: mepis is now being based on kubuntu
[11:10] <apokryphos> james_xxx: previously it was based directly on debian
[11:10] <james_xxx> ty apokryphos
[11:11] <sladen> pundai: okay, and is restores probably?  In which case I can white-list it
[11:11] <ubuntu> doing the same with HDB gives me three partitions, my swap, my linux, and Extended
[11:11] <Arrick> hey ompaul you here?
[11:11] <Arrick> nickrud, you here?
[11:11] <alsa> !saved session
[11:11] <ubotu> alsa: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:11] <james_xxx> if i installed  KDE on my ubuntu system, would it bear some resemblance to mepis?
[11:11] <duckdown> sladen: I can't manually enter anything.  There is just an arrow indicating "cd .." and a box where I can select like /home or /home/duckdown, and then two buttons that say OK or CANCEL
[11:11] <pundai> sladen, yep
[11:11] <dmbt> hey, any of you use tscp before in ubuntu?
[11:11] <pundai> it suspends to ram and disk perfectly
[11:11] <pundai> just not the Fn keys
[11:12] <C-O-L-T> how to convert an rpm file to deb with alien? I mean what is the commnad
[11:12] <alsa> any one know how to disable my ubuntu from saving the session after i log out ?
[11:12] <alsa> i uncheck the option on logout menu
[11:12] <sladen> ubuntu: in that case it would be   hd(1,1)  (second disk, second partition, counting from zero)
[11:12] <apokryphos> C-O-L-T: man alien
[11:12] <alsa> but it keeps saving the session
[11:12] <C-O-L-T> apokryphos: man alien and file name?
[11:12] <apokryphos> C-O-L-T: man alien to find out its usage 8)
[11:12] <james_xxx> how does one install the KDE desktop in ubuntu?
[11:12] <sladen> duckdown: in nautilus just type the filename
[11:12] <apokryphos> james_xxx: /msg ubotu kubuntu
[11:12] <tritium> james_xxx: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <duckdown> sladen: let me try, thanks
[11:12] <james_xxx> ty agaib apok
[11:12] <sladen> duckdown: in any of the open dialogue boxes,  type  Ctrl-L and then the filename
[11:12] <ubuntu> sladen: Error 11: Unrecognized device string
[11:13] <duckdown> Ahh!
[11:13] <duckdown> sladen: Thank you!!
[11:13] <ubuntu> and the first partition was linux, I just put it in wrong order when I typed it, so I did hd(1,0)
[11:13] <duckdown> ctrl-l did it
[11:13] <alsa> doesnt any one here know how solve this issue
[11:13] <ubuntu> is it (hd1,0)?
[11:13] <sladen> ubuntu: what did fdisk -l  tell you for your Linux partition?   /dev/hda2 ?
[11:13] <trip348> hi, I need some help. I messed up during the tutorial to mount ntfs under dapper. Definitly did something wrong
[11:14] <ubuntu> /dev/hdb1   *           1       19080   153260068+  83  Linux
[11:14] <ubuntu> /dev/hdb2           19081       19457     3028252+   5  Extended
[11:14] <ubuntu> /dev/hdb5           19081       19457     3028221   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:14] <tritium> ubuntu: please use pastebin for pasting
[11:14] <sladen> ah, *hdb1*
[11:14] <ubuntu> Like I said, I recall a 4 line rule
[11:14] <ubuntu> it might have been 3
[11:14] <curuptura> hi channel
[11:15] <ubuntu> but I'm pretty sure this is 3 or under
[11:15] <tritium> ubuntu: like I said, please use pastebin (see the topic)
[11:15] <curuptura> i wanna ask a question
[11:15] <sladen> ubuntu: the order you gave the first time was different,  try  (hd1,0)
[11:15] <ubuntu> sladen: Yeah.
[11:15] <curuptura> one of my friends want to use ubuntu istead of windows
[11:15] <ubuntu> sorry about that
[11:15] <curuptura> and he want to know if it works fine with netgear wireless networking
[11:15] <curuptura> ?
[11:15] <sladen> curuptura: "try it", "probably"
[11:16] <curuptura>  the ma311 card
[11:16] <sladen> curuptura: "file a bug if it doesn't"
[11:16] <ubuntu> It gives error 21, the selected disk apparently does not exist
[11:16] <sladen> curuptura: http://www.google.com/search?q=ma311+ubuntu
[11:16] <shoofle> In synaptic, it has been stuck all day since much earlier on one step:
[11:16] <sladen> ubuntu: fun.  Are you running grub with sudo ?
[11:16] <curuptura> thanx sladen
[11:16] <ubuntu> sladen--er
[11:16] <ubuntu> oops
[11:17] <shoofle> not anymore!
[11:17] <ubuntu> sladen: Now I am, I'll try again
[11:17] <free_binary-> hello
[11:17] <ubuntu> It returns: /dev/hdb1   *           1       19080   153260068+  83  Linux
[11:17] <ubuntu> /dev/hdb2           19081       19457     3028252+   5  Extended
[11:17] <ubuntu> /dev/hdb5           19081       19457     3028221   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:17] <dmbt> any of you familar withthe tscp client?
[11:17] <ubuntu> shoot!
[11:17] <newbuntie> I do sudo hdparm /dev/hda and the IO_suppport is 0 (defalt is 16-bit) what does that mean and should this be set to 16 bit?
[11:17] <mrbay> hello
[11:18] <tritium> Asked you nicely many times, ubuntu.  See you in 10 minutes...
[11:18] <valdis> hey
[11:19] <sladen> newbuntie: if you don't know what it means, either Google, or leave it set as the default
[11:20] <james_xxx> ok i am trying to install the KDE desktop and am running into several issues
[11:20] <cdubya> afternoon, all.
[11:20] <james_xxx> " Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed"
[11:21] <james_xxx> what are 'unresolvable dependencies'?
[11:21] <cusco> hi
[11:22] <needlez> does anyone know if there are centrios drivers (centrios is the company) for their digital camera's?
[11:22] <apokryphos> james_xxx: when you try to compile and don't have the sufficient package dependencies, those are unresolvable depends
[11:22] <Ra211> Suppose someone hacked my Ubuntu-installation over the internet, where can I check log files to see if someone had access? A couple of unexpected things happened
[11:22] <bbrazil> Ra211: /var/log
[11:22] <james_xxx> how do i resolve these unresolvable dependencies?
[11:22] <ale3hs_> how I install java 5 ?? I got java (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[11:23] <james_xxx> :-D
[11:23] <bbrazil> Ra211: in particular auth.log and messages
[11:23] <apokryphos> james_xxx: sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[11:23] <Flannel> Ra211: /var/log/
[11:23] <mirak> I am using pam_mount to mount at login a fuse mount with smbnetfs. actually this works, but the problem is that it's mounted under root, so I lost the possiblity to use per user config with ~/.smb/ . But with ~/.pam_mount.conf, I can try to mount as a user, but the problem is that mount can only be run by root. What solution is there ?
[11:23] <cdubya> !java
[11:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:23] <james_xxx> apok, you are a big help
[11:23] <cusco> check /var/log/auth.log
[11:23] <apokryphos> james_xxx: one of the great things about the APT package management system =)
[11:23] <james_xxx> awesome
[11:23] <cdubya> ale3hs, look at that wiki link
[11:23] <||NiceBoy||> hello
[11:23] <cusco> hello
[11:23] <Nullified> !mount
[11:23] <ubotu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[11:24] <||NiceBoy||> hey guys i have a problem with ubuntu in my laptop pc
[11:24] <cusco> hello dudes Im here helping ||NiceBoy|| (which doesn't speak good english) explaining his problem
[11:24] <||NiceBoy||> lol
[11:24] <cusco> ||NiceBoy||: has a Acer Aspire 1692WLMi laptop
[11:24] <james_xxx> apokry, what should i enter as the packsge name?? kubuntu?
[11:24] <sladen> needlz_: most cameras just show up as hard-disks ("mass storage devices") when you plug them in
[11:24] <apokryphos> james_xxx: what package are you trying to compile
[11:24] <sladen> needlz_: and should automatically show up on the desktop
[11:24] <cusco> and when gdm starts his screen goes black
[11:24] <cusco> or brown
[11:25] <sladen> Ra211: /var/log/*   Ubuntu has no listening ports by default
[11:25] <james_xxx> i am wanting to install the KDE desktop.... the konq-plugins do not want to load
[11:25] <cusco> according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=191715#post191715 he has edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:25] <apokryphos> james_xxx: what do you mean?
[11:25] <apokryphos> james_xxx: you're not compiling KDE, are you? :)
[11:25] <phanter> hello peoples. All my window borders disappeared. How can I load them manually?
[11:25] <apokryphos> james_xxx: build-dep is only for compiling from source, not installing packages.
[11:25] <||NiceBoy||> and now is not black but after editing xorg.conf he is brown
[11:25] <sladen> mirak: there's a  uid=  option to mount
[11:26] <apokryphos> phanter: alt+f2 -> gnome-window-decorator ?
[11:26] <cusco> anyone here.. can help?
[11:26] <sladen> mirak: and the fuse tools are setuid so they can be run as a particular usr
[11:26] <james_xxx> apokryphos, i am not sure what i mean. when i try to install the kubuntu desktop using synaptics, it gives me and un resolved dependencies error regarding the konq-plugins
[11:26] <||NiceBoy||> hello
[11:26] <||NiceBoy||> zzzz
[11:26] <james_xxx> an*
[11:26] <phanter> apokryphos, -> Could not open location 'file:///gnome-window-decorator' Details: The location or file could not be found.
[11:27] <mirak> sladen: hum you sure ? I don't see that option.
[11:27] <apokryphos> phanter: bit of a guess, I don't use gnome I'm afraid.
[11:27] <mirak> sladen: I use uid option, look my line in map_mount.conf   volume * fuse - smbnetfs /network/& uid=&,gid=&,allow_other - -
[11:27] <||NiceBoy||> fdx cusco isto ainda por cima  o canal oficial n?
[11:27] <apokryphos> james_xxx: can you pastebin the exact output?
[11:27] <||NiceBoy||> lol
[11:27] <james_xxx> it won't let me copy.... i could show you the error , though
[11:27] <james_xxx> brb
[11:28] <mirak> sladen: for the setuid I don't know how I can set that
[11:28] <phanter> anybody else an idea :-) ?
[11:28] <Chri[s] > My printer isnt working
[11:28] <Sourced> hello
[11:28] <cusco> hi
[11:28] <james_xxx> apokryphos: kubuntu-desktop:
[11:28] <james_xxx>  Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[11:28] <||NiceBoy||> hi nada
[11:28] <||NiceBoy||> lol
[11:28] <Sourced> does anyone know when the pre-ordering of Dapper Drake cds opens up?
[11:28] <||NiceBoy||> nao nos ajudam cusco
[11:29] <apokryphos> james_xxx: what version are you on?
[11:29] <cdubya> cusco, ouch, sounds like there's lot of folks having those same issues......and he tried to add that option to the xorg.conf?
[11:29] <||NiceBoy||> ke pouca sorte
[11:29] <||NiceBoy||> nem um hi merecem
[11:29] <||NiceBoy||> lolol
[11:29] <apokryphos> Sourced: some time in May
[11:29] <Flannel> ||NiceBoy||: english only here please.
[11:29] <||NiceBoy||> cheee
[11:29] <||NiceBoy||> sorry
[11:29] <james_xxx> i am using ubuntu 5.10
[11:29] <Sourced> it says mid-May on the site
[11:29] <||NiceBoy||> Flannel can you help us please?
[11:29] <mirak> sladen: you left ?
[11:29] <Sourced> IMHO it? mid-May now
[11:29] <cusco> cdubya: yes he added that to xorg.conf.. before the screen was black and now its brow with a small stripe in the middle
[11:29] <james_xxx> i am barnd new to linux... i burned the ubuntu CD and installed it about 4 days ago
[11:29] <cusco> it changed something but not enough..
[11:29] <james_xxx> brand*
[11:30] <cusco> any fix?
[11:30] <||NiceBoy||> because i install ubuntu in my desktop and i love it so i want to install them in my laptop for my work
[11:30] <Flannel> Sourced: I think 2 weeks before june 1, I read that somewhere.
[11:30] <Sourced> ok thanks
[11:30] <sladen> mirak: no
[11:30] <apokryphos> james_xxx: what's the output if you put sudo apt-get install konq-plugins in the terminal?
[11:30] <Sourced> that would be the day after tomorrow
[11:30] <mirak> sladen: could you elaborate ?
[11:30] <james_xxx> apokryphos, i will see, brb
[11:30] <Chri[s] > How do i get my Lexmark 510 Series printer to work
[11:30] <lesha> hey how do i stop xorg-common?
[11:30] <Flannel> Sourced: they obviously wont ship until after its released though.
[11:31] <apokryphos> lesha: stop? You mean kill X?
[11:31] <Sourced> yeah
[11:31] <cdubya> cusco, sounds like that video is having all sorts of problems to me, but I'm not X.org pro by any stretch of the imagination
[11:31] <Ra211> Meh, think I discovered what caused my problem (*slaps himself*)
[11:31] <lesha> apokryphos: no stop, i want to stop the service
[11:31] <Sourced> anyways cya all
[11:31] <apokryphos> lesha: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:31] <apokryphos> lesha: killing it is stopping it
[11:32] <lesha> apokryphos: thanks
[11:32] <james_xxx> apokryphos, i get a slew of errors... i will paste a few
[11:32] <apokryphos> james_xxx: please use the pastebin
[11:32] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[11:32] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:33] <Nullified> Guys, I really need help, Anyone know why ubuntu picks up my DVD RW but doesnt recognise media in it. CD/Music/DVD-R's....
[11:33] <Skwid__> hey guys
[11:33] <lesha> apokryphos: my problem actually is that my native resolution is 1024x768 and that is the only thing defined in /etc/X11/xorg.conf however X is always in 800x600 and trying to set resolution only gives me 800x600 and 640x480
[11:33] <Skwid__> do you know a good mp3 tag editor ???
[11:33] <Skwid__> what about an xml editor ???
[11:33] <facugaich> where can I put some commands to be run at boot?
[11:33] <apokryphos> lesha: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:33] <chmmr> hi folks.  i'm having a problem getting a certain refresh rate available.  i've followed the tutorials on the forums to edit my xorg.conf file, and added a custom ModeLine to it, but nothing seems to give me the exact refresh rate / resolution combo I want.
[11:34] <james_xxx> apokryphos, i am not sure how to use that. forgive me for my ignorance
[11:34] <apokryphos> lesha: or better: /msg ubotu resolution
[11:34] <apokryphos> james_xxx: no problem. Go to the link above, and just paste the content in there and press "Send". Once that's done, produce the URL in here
[11:34] <chmmr> are there any gotchas with Modelines that i should know about, maybe?
[11:34] <lesha> apokryphos: kk thanks will try :)
[11:34] <nameless|f00d> someone willing to help an utter n00b?
[11:34] <nameless|f00d> i'm about to smash my head in a wall :(
[11:35] <cdubya> nameless|f00d, go ahead and ask
[11:35] <apokryphos> !helpme
[11:35] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
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[11:35] <needlez> is there a version of konquerer (sp?) for the gnome systems?or perhaps a different program entirely? i just want a windows commander (total commander) type program to manage all my file.
[11:35] <cdubya> heh
[11:35] <apokryphos> needlez: gnome has nautilus
[11:35] <nameless|f00d> got issues with adding a user via adduser, i want to create a user which isnt capable of getting out of his home dir
[11:35] <cdubya> yeah, nautilus
[11:35] <nameless|f00d> how todo that?
[11:35] <ahmad> hello
[11:35] <apokryphos> needlez: which has ftp too, but no browser.
[11:36] <ahmad> Can someone assist me installing somehting?
[11:36] <needlez> no browser?
[11:36] <apokryphos> ahmad: not without telling anyone what it is :P
[11:36] <Nullified> Guys, I really need help, Anyone know why ubuntu picks up my DVD RW but doesnt recognise media in it. CD/Music/DVD-R's....
[11:36] <apokryphos> needlez: web browser, that is.
[11:36] <seb_> how do you get ubuntu to use the usb mouse on a laptop?
[11:36] <apokryphos> seb_: plug it in :P
[11:36] <high-freq> lol
[11:36] <ahmad> I have unpackcked a tar.gz file, and i went to the INSTALL file, and i need assisstance
[11:36] <james_xxx> apokryphos, i pated it to the bin
[11:37] <apokryphos> seb_: you might have to reconfigure your Xorg to use it, though (on rare occassions).
[11:37] <apokryphos> james_xxx: link?
[11:37] <apokryphos> ahmad: you're trying to compile from source?
[11:37] <chmmr> needlez: if you're specifically looking for a two-pane file manager, i use Gnome COmmander
[11:37] <ahmad> yes i am apokrypho
[11:37] <high-freq> ahmad: read the INSTALL or README file it comes with...it tells about it...but normally its  ./Configure && make && sudo make install
[11:37] <james_xxx> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14032
[11:37] <cdubya> nameless|f00d, when you say not able to get out of their home dir, I'm guessing you mean no rwx access?
[11:37] <nameless|f00d> cdubya remember the n00b part i started with :P i mean not being able to cd ..
[11:37] <apokryphos> high-freq: best to let them know that packages are the recommended method of installation for 99% of packages ;-)
[11:37] <ahmad> high, i sdont know hwo to anvigate with the terminal soi need a pro to assist me
[11:37] <Chri[s] > Wow i can not get my printer to work
[11:37] <facugaich> Where can I put some commands to be run at boot?
[11:37] <high-freq> tru
[11:38] <apokryphos> ahmad: what are yout rying to compile?
[11:38] <cdubya> nameless|f00d, lol
[11:38] <ahmad> qtella
[11:38] <high-freq> ahmad: always look in the repositories...if there is a package u want
[11:38] <cdubya> nameless|f00d, are you booting gnome?
[11:38] <nameless|f00d> no
[11:38] <nameless|f00d> just plain shell
[11:38] <Chri[s] > wow this sucks
[11:38] <apokryphos> ahmad: it's really not very good :P
[11:38] <high-freq> ahmad:  u can load up synaptic and do a search...always good before u start d/l and compile yourself
[11:39] <ahmad> k thanks high
[11:39] <high-freq> np
[11:39] <ahmad> well now  know its not good
[11:39] <apokryphos> ahmad: and, actually, it's never worked properly for me after many tries.
[11:39] <seb_> apokryphos it is plugged in :P but its not working
[11:39] <ahmad> do you know any good linux p2p?
[11:39] <cdubya> nameless|f00d, heh, gluttoned for punishment, or just looking to learn a lot real fast?
[11:39] <apokryphos> ahmad: gtk-gnutella and limewire are both ok
[11:39] <facugaich> ahmad, aMule
[11:39] <high-freq> ahmad: azureus is what i've used...and giFT
[11:39] <Ponijs> how do I allow a user to use root if moduser -G wheel doesn't work?
[11:39] <apokryphos> ahmad: gtk-gnutella is available from the repositories. fire up synaptic and select it for installation
[11:39] <ahmad> thanks man
[11:39] <james_xxx> apokryphos, i probably did the most wreckless install of ubuntu possible. did what i pasted give you any clues?
[11:39] <ahmad> I love you
[11:39] <apokryphos> seb_: reconfigure your Xorg. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:39] <bewire> Hello I have the following tv card Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME  MK3), good picture but no sound, worked in winXP. Anyone who can help ?
[11:40] <needlez> chmmr, where can i get gnome commander?
[11:40] <nameless|f00d> cdubya well ussually after googling i manage to find solutions for my problems
[11:40] <apokryphos> james_xxx: what command did you just run there?
[11:40] <nameless|f00d> cdubya but figuring out this is not working for me :(
[11:41] <james_xxx> apokryphos, i ran sudo apt-get build-dep konq-plugins
[11:41] <nameless|f00d> and tbh so far so good, was already like.. wtf i got my system installed, and working with all hardware in less then 30 mins
[11:41] <nameless|f00d> so thats already like w00t
[11:41] <apokryphos> james_xxx: I said to run sudo apt-get install konq-plugins :P
[11:41] <captine> bewire: i have a leadtek winfast tv card.  works hundreds
[11:41] <captine> bewire: what tv tuner app u using? tvtime?
[11:41] <bewire> tvtime
[11:42] <cdubya> nameless|f00d, System >
[11:42] <Chri[s] > Arg it detects my printer but it doesnt print
[11:42] <cdubya> nameless|f00d, that nick is troublesome.....:-P
[11:42] <bewire> the picture is crystal clear but no sound. Sound in other apps though ...
[11:43] <captine> bewire: I'm unfortunately not at home, as such, cannot check settings etc.
[11:43] <cdubya> nameless|f00d, System > Administration > Users and Groups
[11:43] <bewire> ok, thanks anyway
[11:43] <captine> bewire: isn't there a settings meny?
[11:43] <duckdown> Hey all, How can I get additional info on a package than apt-cache search is giving me? (Specifically the version)
[11:43] <captine> *menu
[11:43] <Nameless`> cdubya thing is i dont have gnome or something installed
[11:43] <needlez> is there a way to make everything smaller (like icons) im used to having my resolution stupidy high, and not i cant go higher than 1024x768
[11:43] <Nameless`> i ran the 'server' setup
[11:43] <tritium> duckdown: apt-cache show
[11:43] <cdubya> Nameless`, k
[11:43] <duckdown> tritium: thanks
[11:43] <ahmad> yo apok how i know when this gtk gnutella thing is connected
[11:44] <hyphenated> needlez: _why_ can't you go higher than 1024x768? maybe that can be fixed instead :-)
[11:44] <bewire> yes, tried to make some adjustments with no luck. I have read that I might have to set some jumoers on the card. But I don't wanna go that way if don't have to ...
[11:44] <bewire> jumpers ...
[11:45] <seb_> apokryphos thanks !!
[11:45] <james_xxx> apokryphos, i did sudo apt-get install konq-plugins... and again got error which i posted to the bin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14033
[11:45] <apokryphos> james_xxx: is synaptic running?
[11:45] <Nullified> Guys, I really need help, Anyone know why ubuntu picks up my DVD RW but doesnt recognise media in it. CD/Music/DVD-R's....
[11:45] <needlez> hyphenated, well im not sure. but your right. im running a nvidia geforce fx 5700LE (im pretty sure) and i thought i installed the drivers properly. (i get the nvidia screen when i turn on my computer) so i dunno, maybe i did something wrong?
[11:45] <cdubya> Nameless`, adduser --group users username
[11:45] <ahmad> yo apokryphos how i know when this gtk gnutella thing is connected
[11:45] <james_xxx> apokryphos, sorry about that, let me try it again
[11:46] <Nameless`> cdubya but when you do that they can still get out their home dir
[11:46] <Ponijs> can I replace the gnu coreutils with bsd ones?
[11:46] <Chri[s] > Can you make backups of your dvds in ubuntu?
[11:46] <apokryphos> ahmad: haven't used it in ages, but I'm sure there's some clear indication. It's not quite as user-friendly as Limewire, but it is fully functional and configurable
[11:46] <apokryphos> james_xxx: no worries
[11:46] <apokryphos> Chri[s] : you cane make them into ISOs, yes.
[11:46] <captine> bewire: i can't understand why u would need to adjust jumpers, esp if the other sound is perfect.  u said sound works in windows.  jumpers must be set correctly then?
[11:46] <Chri[s] > apokryphos: with what program?
[11:47] <Ponijs> can I replace the gnu coreutils with bsd ones?
[11:47] <apokryphos> Chri[s] : I use k3b, but there's likely several others that do the job too.
[11:47] <ahmad> if i want limewire, do i download the RPM file?
[11:47] <apokryphos> Ponijs: heh, not without hassles
[11:47] <apokryphos> ahmad: /msg ubotu limewire
[11:47] <Ponijs> :(
[11:47] <Chri[s] > Does K3b have a nice GUI interface?
[11:47] <Ponijs> Chri[s] : yes
[11:47] <apokryphos> Chri[s] : indeed, it's the most-used burner on GNU/Linux. Quite advanced =)
[11:47] <bewire> yes, that's my bet as well
[11:47] <james_xxx> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14034
[11:48] <ahmad> !java
[11:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:48] <captine> apokryphos: is K3B a linux type of "CloneDVD".  i used CloneDBD when in windows, and am looking for ubuntu alternative?
[11:48] <james_xxx> more errors
[11:48] <artis> Ponijs, I had some bad luck with GNU's ftp command line utility.
[11:48] <chmmr> needlez: just search for "commander" in synaptic package manager, and select it for installation
[11:48] <cdubya> Nameless`, what is it that you don't want them to get to?
[11:48] <artis> Can you tell me why it? I had no such problems with its BSD counterpart.
[11:48] <needlez> chmmr, thank you
[11:48] <apokryphos> captine: haven't used that I'm afraid. I'd compare it more to Nero, but I'd say k3b was certainly better
[11:48] <Chri[s] > ouch
[11:48] <Chri[s] > i dont run kde
[11:48] <gteppel> I'm trying to setup my laser printer using lpadmin, what is the command that lists the URI for printers
[11:48] <Ponijs> tu esi liels liels losis
[11:48] <apokryphos> Chri[s] : so?
[11:48] <Chri[s] > Can i still install it and use it
[11:48] <Ponijs> [-----------------------------------]  shitik liels
[11:48] <bewire> I'll go and read more docs
[11:49] <Nameless`> cdubya yah. i just want them to play within their homedir and dont manage to get out of it
[11:49] <apokryphos> james_xxx: what about if you sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[11:49] <artis> Ponijs, but its true. I'm sorry, but it is just the way it is.
[11:49] <apokryphos> Ponijs: what are you doing?
[11:49] <nysosym> please have a look on http://www.xegl.de and tell me your mind! (german)
[11:49] <artis> apokryphos, we have some problems with GPL.
[11:49] <james_xxx> apokryphos, ok i'll try that
[11:49] <apokryphos> james_xxx: if it's one or two lines, it's ok to paste in here =)
[11:49] <james_xxx> lol
[11:49] <cdubya> Nameless`, what kind of access are they getting to this machine?
[11:49] <james_xxx> apokryphos,  ok ty
[11:49] <cdubya> Nameless`, meaning, how are they connecting?
[11:49] <apokryphos> artis: ok
[11:49] <artis> Ponijs, hav you read the GPL? It forrbids you saying slack about its utils!
[11:49] <Nameless`> cdubya well i want them to be able to connect with their ssh client to their home dir
[11:50] <Nameless`> cdubya and then let them work further in there whatever they want
[11:50] <apokryphos> artis: it's worth trying out; if you have problems it shouldn't be too hard to go back.
[11:50] <artis> apokryphos, no probs.
[11:50] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell needlez about resolution
[11:50] <crueldog> I need help how to make a FTP server
[11:50] <apokryphos> artis: saying slack about its utils?
[11:50] <Nameless`> i'm using pureftpd which can use the userconfig file
[11:50] <artis> crueldog, yes RMS wouldn't appriciate it.
[11:50] <Nameless`> crueldog apt-get install ftpflavour :P
[11:50] <Ponijs> apokryphos: yhbtyhl
[11:50] <crueldog> what is RMS?
[11:51] <artis> RMS, The Richard!
[11:51] <crueldog> error
[11:51] <crueldog> impossible, permission denied.
[11:51] <artis> Ponijs, you better get your act together. If you want help, just ask, OK?
[11:51] <apokryphos> crueldog: Richard Stallman. Founder of GNU and the Free Software Foundation.
[11:52] <Nameless`> crueldog sudo apt-get install ftpd
[11:52] <james_xxx> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14035
[11:52] <crueldog> thanks
[11:52] <apokryphos> james_xxx: I'm wondering how all that happened to your package management system 8)
[11:52] <crueldog> done
[11:53] <squidgy> Hi!  I'm trying to use the command line to play an audio file (.wav) straight to the soundcard, but ubuntu doesn't seem to have the 'play' command.  What's the best way to do this?
[11:53] <gteppel> How do I get a USB printers URI??
[11:53] <james_xxx> apokryphos, as you would likely guess already, i have no idea
[11:53] <crueldog> what do i do next?
[11:53] <apokryphos> squidgy: alsaplay
[11:53] <ahmad> !sudo
[11:53] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:53] <apokryphos> james_xxx: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:53] <Nameless`> !adduser
[11:53] <ubotu> Nameless`: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:53] <james_xxx> apokryphos, i'll give it a try LOL
[11:53] <squidgy> apokryphos: thanks!
[11:53] <crueldog> Nameless' : Done, what do I do next?
[11:54] <Nameless`> :(
[11:54] <Nameless`> crueldog what ftpd you installed?
[11:54] <crueldog> the one u told me to
[11:54] <crueldog> sudo apt-get install ftpd
[11:54] <cdubya> Nameless`, most of the solutions I'm seeing to your issue involve chroot or rbash......might google for "restricting linux user access to $HOME"
[11:54] <crueldog> i did that
[11:54] <Nameless`> cdubya hmm can try that. sofar i tryed things like 'howto adduser' and that kinda things
[11:55] <Nameless`> rather awful
[11:55] <Nameless`> :/
[11:55] <Nameless`> crueldog well depending on what ftp server you installed you gotto edit the config file to whatever you feel like
[11:55] <Nameless`> sofar i used proftpd myself and now trying pure-ftpd
[11:55] <Nameless`> but pure-ftpd is a pain in the ass sofar
[11:55] <uwe_> hi
[11:56] <crueldog> i simply cope%pasted the command...
[11:56] <crueldog> copy&pasted**
[11:56] <Nameless`> arf /me slaps crueldog
[11:56] <crueldog> hey!
[11:56] <crueldog> I'm new to linux
[11:56] <Nameless`> cdubya hmm getting now better responses indeed in what kinda problem i got
[11:56] <Nameless`> tnx :D
[11:56] <squidgy> apokryphos: alsaplayer worked (couldn't find alsaplay with apt-file search), but it brings up a GUI.  Is there something more low-level, suitable for scripting with python for example, without a GUI?
[11:56] <Jowi> squidgy: the package "sox" has got the "play" command as well
[11:56] <Nameless`> crueldog check what kinda ftpd you installed :P it should showup somewhere in your screen
[11:57] <cdubya> Nameless`, np
[11:57] <apokryphos> squidgy: heh, braino, yeah. And it's actually aplay
[11:57] <apokryphos> I'm quite tired :P
[11:57] <Jowi> squidgy: "play" in the "sox" package is used from the console
[11:57] <ahmad> ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET VETRILO 2.3.1 FOR LINUX!?
[11:57] <apokryphos> ahmad: please drop the caps
[11:57] <squidgy> Jowi:  just installed sox and its play works as desired.  Thanks!
[11:57] <crueldog>  I cant find
[11:58] <Jowi> np squidgy
[11:58] <crueldog> Its FTPD
[11:58] <NickGarvey> !tell ahmad about caps
[11:58] <crueldog> why !tell?
[11:58] <crueldog> ah, for bot
[11:59] <Nameless`> crueldog digout next the config file
[11:59] <crueldog> huh?
[11:59] <Nameless`> and start editing it to what you feel like :P
[11:59] <crueldog> I'M NEW TO LINUX
[11:59] <Nameless`> so am i :D
[11:59] <crueldog> ...
[11:59] <Nameless`> n00bs teaching n00bs
[11:59] <Nameless`> ev0l :D
[11:59] <tritium> crueldog: that's fine.  If you can, please don't use all caps.  Thanks!
[11:59] <crueldog> ...
[11:59] <ahmad> I started linux today
[11:59] <ahmad> and i cant really find what i need