[12:03] <AzteK> night night everybody
[12:05] <_patrick> patrick@ubuntu:~$ edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:05] <_patrick> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[12:05] <_patrick> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[12:05] <_patrick>         LANGUAGE = "en",
[12:05] <_patrick>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[12:06] <_patrick>         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[12:06] <_patrick>     are supported and installed on your system.
[12:06] <_patrick> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[12:06] <_patrick> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sources.list" -- using "application/*"
[12:06] <_patrick> Error: no write permission for file "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:06] <_patrick> patrick@ubuntu:~$
[12:06] <bessonovs> people, who know when will kubuntu 6.0 appear official?
[12:06] <apokryphos> bessonovs: 1st June
[12:06] <bessonovs> thanks
[12:06] <dell500> how do you kill a proc in console?
[12:08] <apol> dell500: killall <program> or kill <pid>
[12:08] <poimen> someone knows were to find C++ tutorials videos to downloaD?
[12:08] <apol> dell500: you can check de pid with ps -ef
[12:08] <apol> poimen: whay do you want exactly?
[12:09] <poimen> what or why?
[12:09] <apol> what
[12:09] <apol> sorry
[12:09] <dell500> thanks apol, ps was the command i was lookin' for
[12:10] <MasterEvilAce> oh yeah, forgot about this. is kubuntu good w/ networking with windows? SuSE has problems like crazy with me trying to network with XP
[12:10] <poimen> I am new to PC cience and I will like to be know a little more about c++
[12:11] <apol> poimen: I don't think there is any video about C++
[12:11] <apol> poimen: but there is a lot of literature about it
[12:11] <apol> MasterEvilAce: Do you mean SMB?
[12:12] <MasterEvilAce> yes
[12:12] <apol> I haven't had any problems
[12:12] <apol> but I haven't used it very much...
[12:12] <MasterEvilAce> i ran into weird problems such as I couldn't write to a shared windows drive, but i could read from it. And Windows could see files on linux, but not read nor write. and i gave practically full access
[12:13] <poimen> ok
[12:13] <MasterEvilAce> i shall try anyways though
[12:13] <apol> MasterEvilAce: you have smb4k which seems to work fine
[12:14] <apol> I'm leaving
[12:15] <apol> good night
[12:16] <troy> good day folks
[12:16] <MasterEvilAce> gday
[12:21] <wasp_ems> what do i use to diable a reprocity?
[12:21] <wasp_ems> repository i mean
[12:22] <wasp_ems> disable
[12:23] <erov> go to /etc/apt/sources.list and edit it accordingly.. or with Adept.. go to the adept menu box.. under that there is an option to Manage repositories.. comment the repository out.. or delete it.. whatever
[12:23] <wasp_ems> i know how to do it..but i do not have the sign needed which is supposed to be under 3..so can u please paste me one:)
[12:26] <erov> #
[12:26] <wasp_ems> thanx
[12:29] <sgrover_> anyone know any URLs to help get video working properly on Dapper?  Specifically AVIs,and xvid
[12:33] <troy> sgrover: never tried to play those files in dapper yet... (pops in a disk to see what happens)
[12:34] <sgrover_> the avi from my camera doesn't work - but I think I get sound though.  (checking)
[12:34] <erov> get http://www.videolan.org/vlc or mplayer / vlc from the repositories.. OR if you must just install the codecs..
[12:35] <erov> all codecs are built in
[12:35] <erov> or put the win32 codecs package into /usr/lib/codecs.. i believe
[12:35] <troy> sgrover: just tried an xvid and it works -- don't know if I needed to install anything
[12:36] <troy> sgrover: however, avi is just a container format, you'll need to find out what the video codec used within the file is... right-click properties usually has that information
[12:37] <troy> checking adept to see what I have installed to play xvids...
[12:38] <sgrover_> it looks like the first AVI I'm trying that isn't working is an MS avi file.
[12:38] <sgrover_> erov - thanks for the link.  Will look into that later
[12:38] <sgrover_> but I don't have mplayer in my repositories....
[12:39] <troy> sgrover_: open properties and look at the Video Codec under the Meta Info tab
[12:39] <troy> sgrover_: don't need mplayer
[12:39] <troy> sgrover_: is it trying to play in kaffeine?
[12:40] <sgrover_> yep, it is. I've never had any luck with Kaffeine/xine though
[12:40] <troy> sgrover_: can you look to see if you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[12:43] <sgrover_> think I have a repository problem then - a filter of libxine does not show me the extracodecs
[12:44] <wasp_ems> anyone know where i can dowload games from?
[12:45] <erov> yes me either
[12:46] <troy> I can throw my sources.list up if you'd like a copy
[12:46] <erov> i gave up on trying to get the codecs installed system wide.. as it was conflicting.. I couldn't even get mp3 working correctly.. I just used programs with support already compiled in... It'd help me too, troy
[12:47] <sgrover_> sure troy, thanks.  I've been hacking mine with tooo many sites trying to get this working
[12:47] <erov> i'm an ogg fan anyways.. but just so many are hooked on the mp3 format..
[12:47] <erov> and i REALLY want to use amaroK
[12:48] <troy> http://tblog.ath.cx/~troy/sources.list
[12:48] <troy> it includes the sources for amarok 1.4 beta and koffice 1.5
[12:48] <erov> 'preciate
[12:49] <troy> the xine engine for amarok 1.4 is the most polished so far
[12:51] <jeff___> anybody knwo any good free webhosts?
[12:51] <troy> jeff___: what sort of connection are you running? it's pretty easy to set up a server using ubuntu
[12:52] <troy> I'm running a few websites off of my dsl connection quite nicely
[12:52] <jeff___> troy: cable, my laptop kind of stinks
[12:52] <sgrover_> troy - thanks for the list
[12:52] <troy> ahh, I just have an old 800Mhz machine that I leave on which acts as a server...
[12:53] <troy> sgrover_: just be warned that it'll upgrade amarok to 1.4 (which is a good thing, except you'll have to reconfigure it)
[12:53] <erov> haha.. I have a p2-233mmx
[12:53] <erov> web server
[12:53] <troy> erov: well, 800Mhz is the older working machine I have right now - everything older is dead :)
[12:54] <jeff___> troy: hmm
[12:54] <sgrover_> tht's all you need, unless you're facing high volume and lots of database hits
[12:54] <troy> used to run my server on a 150Mhz slackware box, but it finally bit the dust :)
[12:54] <jeff___> troy: what would i do to set up a server in ubuntu?
[12:54] <sgrover_> jeff - install apache
[12:54] <troy> jeff___: install apache
[12:54] <sgrover_> or another web server
[12:54] <jeff___> ok
[12:54] <jeff___> then what
[12:55] <troy> jeff___: but apache is the best known, so easiest to get help for... check out #ubuntu-server (assuming it still exists)
[12:55] <sgrover_> then configure it (read the docs/guides), and then tell people your box can handle web requests
[12:55] <erov> yeah thats what im running on here.. slackware
[12:55] <troy> erov: I run whatever I feel like installing at the time... slackware, freebsd, ubuntu, etc...
[12:55] <jeff___> lol awesome
[12:56] <erov> gotcha
[12:56] <Jimmey__> I've just installed - How do I change the K icon on the K toolbar?
[12:56] <jeff___> right click>change K
[12:57] <troy> nope
[12:57] <jeff___> lol
[12:57] <Snake__> You have to change a file
[12:57] <Snake__> kmenu.png
[12:58] <jeff___> Jimmey__: im sorry, i dont know.
[12:58] <Snake__> Pending the size of your toolbar is the one you have to change (they are located in /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/)
[12:58] <sgrover_> troy - thanks - I see the proper codecs and mplayer in my list now.
[12:58] <Snake__> Jimmey__: ^^ theres your answer
[12:58] <jeff___> does anybody know what packages you need ot get flash in konqueror?
[12:58] <Snake__> !flash
[12:58] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:58] <Snake__> jeff___: ^^
[12:58] <troy> Jimmey__: copy the icon you want to use into ~/.kde/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/apps/ and call it kmenu.png
[12:59] <jeff___> i already did that
[12:59] <jeff___> and it still doesnt work
[12:59] <troy> Jimmey__: browse /usr/share/icons for something suitable
[12:59] <Snake__> jeff___: okay hang on theres 1 more thing you have to do
[12:59] <jeff___> its becoming a massive pain in the ass
[12:59] <Jimmey__> Okay, thankyou
[12:59] <jeff___> k
[01:00] <Snake__> jeff___: at the top of konq click settings --> config konq --> scroll down to plugins --> scan for new plugins
[01:00] <troy> jeff___: install flashplayer-nonfree from the repositories :)
[01:00] <Snake__> let that run then click okay and it should work
[01:00] <Snake__> troy: that doesnt work for konq
[01:00] <Snake__> It works for firefox, but you have to have konq detect it
[01:00] <Snake__> I should probly add that to the wiki
[01:01] <troy> Snake__: good idea :)
[01:01] <ngh55> hi
[01:01] <ngh55> this distro rox
[01:01] <troy> I usually do that anyway :)
[01:01] <ngh55> btw, what includes the kubuntu DVD that the CD version doesn't have??
[01:01] <troy> the dvd is both the install cd and the livecd on one disk, that's all
[01:01] <troy> (last I checked)
[01:02] <Snake__> Gawdd their wikiserver is so slow
[01:03] <erov> thanks, trouy
[01:03] <erov> worked fine.. i had some restrictive reps
[01:03] <ngh55> both, the livecd isnt supposed to also have an install option?
[01:03] <erov> and some still commented
[01:04] <ngh55> what i want to know is if it is worth to download the dvd for some reason, like more libraries, apps, games, etc
[01:06] <raf> when I type "dpkg -l" it shows a list of packages and its status, but, what means the two letters  in the first column? ii, rc, ri
[01:08] <ngh55> for opera on kubuntu, I download sarge, woody, potato................ omg
[01:08] <Snake___> troy: do you know how to make a comment in the wiki?
[01:09] <wasp_ems> can anyone tell me how to upgrade kde?
[01:09] <Snake___> !kde3.5
[01:09] <ubotu> To upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[01:09] <Snake___> wasp_ems: ^
[01:09] <wasp_ems> thanx
[01:10] <troy> Snake__: the konqueror related line is there already
[01:11] <Snake___> troy: orly?
[01:11] <troy> "Note to Kubuntu Users: Konqueror DOES NOT auto-detect flash. There are a few steps you must use for flash to work:" ...
[01:11] <Snake___> troy: All I see is what I just put there :)
[01:11] <Snake___> yea I just put that :P
[01:11] <troy> oh, hah
[01:12] <Snake___> Aw well, someone will clean it up if its needed
[01:13] <troy> we should really split that page into 5.04 5.10 and 6.06 specific instructions - it's a mess right now
[01:13] <Snake___> agreed
[01:13] <Snake___> But that would be a big split
[01:14] <Snake___> nalioth: you here?
[01:14] <nalioth> Snake___: where are you?
[01:14] <troy> well, it'd be pretty easy to do - create the blank pages first and copy the relevant info into them... then alter the original page to point to them
[01:15] <Snake___> nalioth: What do you think if me and troy would split the kubuntu wiki into version specific instructions?
[01:15] <Snake___> err
[01:15] <Snake___> restrited formats
[01:16] <Search4Lancer> is there any program available (pref as a package) that I can put in two versions of, say, a web page, and it will show me what changes have been made between the two versions?
[01:17] <jeroenvrp> Search4Lancer: kdiff
[01:17] <troy> quanta might do that *shrugs* it seems to have every feature ever requested for website design...
[01:17] <jeroenvrp> kiff3 actualy
[01:18] <jeroenvrp> sorry kdiff3
[01:19] <Snake___> troy: join #kubuntu-offtopic plz
[01:19] <Search4Lancer> someone suggested kompare... trying that now, if I don't like it, I'll try kdiff3 thanks
[01:19] <jeroenvrp> Search4Lancer: or Kompare
[01:19] <jeroenvrp> ok
[01:30] <raf> is there a --resintall option for apt-get?
[01:31] <ngh55> hi, how can i ad video modes in kubuntu?
[01:31] <ngh55> add
[01:31] <wasp_ems> ok can someone help me cause something is going wrong..i am trying to upgrade kde but something has happened and i cannot upgrade anything
[01:32] <jeroenvrp> wasp_ems: errors please
[01:32] <wasp_ems> The following packages have been kept back:
[01:32] <wasp_ems>   akregator ark artsbuilder kaddressbook kamera kappfinder karm kate
[01:33] <wasp_ems>   kaudiocreator kcontrol kcron kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdebase-bin
[01:33] <wasp_ems>   kdebase-kio-plugins kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs4c2
[01:33] <wasp_ems>   kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing
[01:33] <wasp_ems>   kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-wizards
[01:33] <wasp_ems>   kdeprint kdesktop kdm kfind kghostview khelpcenter kicker klaptopdaemon
[01:33] <wasp_ems>   klipper kmenuedit kmilo kmix knetworkconf knotes konq-plugins konqueror
[01:33] <wasp_ems>   konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontact kooka kopete korganizer kpdf kpf kppp
[01:33] <wasp_ems>   krdc krfb kscd kscreensaver ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash ksvg kuser
[01:33] <wasp_ems>   kwalletmanager kwifimanager kwin libkcddb1 libkonq4 libkpimexchange1
[01:33] <wasp_ems>   libkpimidentities1 libkscan1 libksieve0 libktnef1
[01:33] <wasp_ems> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 68 not upgraded.
[01:33] <jeroenvrp> aha, but why
[01:33] <wasp_ems> i dont know
[01:33] <jeroenvrp> should be in there
[01:34] <jeroenvrp> please do a apt-get update again first
[01:34] <wasp_ems> ok i did
[01:35] <jeroenvrp> and then 'apt-get upgrade' again
[01:35] <wasp_ems> the same thing happened
[01:35] <jeroenvrp> what happens when you so: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:37] <wasp_ems> nothing
[01:37] <jeroenvrp> mm
[01:37] <OpenSorce> *sigh*.....I don't like Debian based distros :-(
[01:37] <OpenSorce> How is it that I use apt to install the kernel?
[01:38] <clayg> In Open Office,anyone know if it's possible to have a formula that contains info from another file? Like a document that has total number that is taken from a field in a spreadsheet?
[01:38] <wasp_ems> any thoughts on what i can do?
[01:39] <OpenSorce> In the 90's I could not have imaged a Linux Distro that did not come with the tools to ./configure && make && make install
[01:39] <jeff___> lol
[01:41] <OpenSorce> Anyone?
[01:41] <ngh55> libjvm.so is the java virtual machine?
[01:41] <ngh55> I get this error on opera, but it works fine, im just curious
[01:42] <visik7> OpenSorce: we are in the 2000 not in 90's
[01:42] <visik7> ngh55: correct : j2re1.4: usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so
[01:42] <OpenSorce> visik7: very helpful thank you
[01:42] <visik7> OpenSorce: what is your question ?
[01:42] <ngh55> ok, thnx
[01:43] <OpenSorce> How is it that I use apt to install the kernel?
[01:43] <visik7> the kernel ?
[01:43] <OpenSorce> visik7: you are familiar with the term?
[01:43] <visik7> the kernel is already installed otherwise you'll not be able to boot the system
[01:43] <ngh55> which is the recommended folder for instaling apps?
[01:44] <ngh55> like windows program crash, I meanfiles =P
[01:45] <OpenSorce> visik7: I know that.......probably knew it before you were old enough to read.....what I mean is the headers, the source all the parts needed to actually compile a program
[01:45] <visik7> apps are installed using the debian binary package format that take care of put things in the right places
[01:45] <visik7> so if u are so skilled u should know that you don't need the headers of the kernel to compile programs
[01:46] <visik7> so explain us what you want to do
[01:46] <ngh55> but take firefox for example, you just extract it somewhere and run ./firefox
[01:46] <jeff___> visik7 is an ass
[01:46] <ngh55> what is the ideal place for that one? lice /usr/local?
[01:46] <visik7> ngh55: apt-get install firefox ?
[01:46] <OpenSorce> visik7: am I not being plain enough? I want to ./configure && make && make install......what do I need to install with apt to be able to do that?
[01:47] <ngh55> I like downloading from source, I dl it from firefox website
[01:49] <visik7> OpenSorce: ./configure && make && make install is used both for "programs" (e.g. kernel modules) that require kernel headers and for apps who don't so wtf you want to compile ? if it's a "standard" program you need apt-get install build-essential
[01:49] <OpenSorce> visik7: when I next talk to Mr. Shuttleworth about the article I am currently writing about Kubuntu......I will be certain to mention your kind assistance
[01:51] <visik7> you come here saying I don't like this I don't like that, what do you expect from me with this behaviour ?
[01:51] <OpenSorce> Is there anyone who interested in helping me out?
[01:52] <HymnToLife> OpenSorce> if would help if we knew what exactly you are trying to build...
[01:52] <fyrmedic> How do I force kubuntu to keep the dns servers that I enter in the network settings? It keeps reverting when I restart.
[01:53] <OpenSorce> HymnToLife: it's good that you are willing my friend, I am trying to install a plugin for Gaim.....it's not something I can use adept or apt to get....I have to compile from source.....no big deal....what do I need to install in order to be able to compile from sources?
[01:53] <HymnToLife> OpenSorce> first thing is the build-essential package
[01:53] <visik7> as I told
[01:54] <OpenSorce> btw, if visik7 is still speaking someone let him know he's on ignore
[01:54] <visik7> stpid asshole
[01:54] <OpenSorce> hy: build-essential? Ok
[01:54] <OpenSorce> stupid nick complete :-P
[01:54] <OpenSorce> hym: so just look in Adept for build-essential?
[01:54] <fyrmedic> Any ideas out there?
[01:55] <HymnToLife> OpenSorce> yes, you should have it in there
[01:55] <crazy_penguin> bye. Good night
[01:55] <OpenSorce> fyrmedic: the cheap way would be to put them in /etc/resolv.conf then chmod it so that it can't be written to.......just my opinion
[01:56] <ngh55> how can I open konqueror file manager as root?
[01:56] <visik7> kdesu konqueror
[01:56] <HymnToLife> ngh55> why do you want to do this ? It's quite dangerous...
[01:56] <fyrmedic> OpenSource: whats the chmod tag to lock it up?
[01:57] <HymnToLife> fyrmedic> try 000 but I don't think it will work since the file will  most likely be written as root
[01:57] <ngh55> thnx visik7
[01:57] <OpenSorce> fyrmedic: yeah, man chmod.....Kubuntu does have man right?
[01:57] <OpenSorce> "thnx visik7" what? Did he leave or something? :-)
[01:57] <fyrmedic> OpenSource: Awesome.  Thanx
[01:58] <OpenSorce> fyrmedic: remember it's a "cheap" workaround..... :-)
[01:58] <ngh55> wont open, I get this ScimInputContextPlugin()
[01:58] <HymnToLife> fyrmedic> do you have DHCP enable somewhere ? Maybe it's overwriting it
[01:58] <visik7> fyrmedic: do u have some dhcp enabled ?
[01:59] <RavenTest> I'm trying to get koffice ... not having any luck this is my list of repositories http://pastebin.com/717828 Do I have everything??
[01:59] <HymnToLife> ngh55> I repeat my question, why do you want to run Konqueror as root ? It's very dangerous, you might break something up
[02:00] <Search4Lancer> well that was a neat trick, I was rearranging tabs in Firefox and it closed
[02:00] <OpenSorce> ngh55: Alt-F2 then type in konqueror then options then run as root......if you still have root disabled you might run "sudo konqueror" from a terminal window......but really....it isn't a good idea if you don't know what you are doing
[02:00] <ngh55> because I want to be able to delete some unused thing like walls
[02:01] <ngh55> ok, thnx
[02:01] <HymnToLife> !kdesu
[02:01] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.
[02:01] <HymnToLife> NOT dudo, you might break something up too :p
[02:01] <HymnToLife> sudo*
[02:01] <ngh55> lol
[02:02] <OpenSorce> ngh55: listen to Hymn :-)
[02:03] <RavenTest> No ideas on getting koffice??
[02:03] <visik7> ngh55: use package manager to remove unused apps don't use kdesu konqueror
[02:03] <HymnToLife> !koffice
[02:03] <ubotu> KOffice is a free, integrated office suite for KDE. Included is word processing, spreadsheet, flowcharting, image manipulation applications and many more. See http://koffice.kde.org
[02:03] <ngh55> thnx for the help
[02:03] <OpenSorce> HymnToLife: build-essential seems to be for build .deb packages.....doesn't seem to fix my issue
[02:04] <OpenSorce> *building
[02:04] <HymnToLife> OpenSorce> it contains tools to build DEBs but not only
[02:04] <RavenTest> HymnToLife: That I know ... So I can't get it by apt-get install ??
[02:04] <HymnToLife> if you just run ./configure && make &&mke install it won't do anything else
[02:05] <HymnToLife> RavenTest> the URLs of the repos you should use are most likely on the website
[02:05] <HymnToLife> or maybe on kubuntu.org
[02:05] <RavenTest> HymnToLife: ok ... this is my list http://pastebin.com/717828 Does it look good??
[02:06] <eriksti> RavenTest: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:06] <HymnToLife> oh yeah
[02:06] <HymnToLife> always forget about that one
[02:07] <RavenTest> eriksti: thats where I got it from
[02:07] <OpenSorce> well...hmm...PKG_CONFIG_PATH.....let me see where to find that...
[02:07] <ngh55> omg, ok, so if I want to install lets say, synaptic, the gnome package manager, all the libraries must be downloaded?
[02:08] <eriksti> RavenTest: okay.. it's probably correct then.. what's the problem?
[02:08] <OpenSorce> nvm.......
[02:08] <RavenTest> eriksti: can't get koffice
[02:09] <HymnToLife> RavenTest> you might find this interesting : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-15.php
[02:09] <HymnToLife> I'll add it to the bot
[02:09] <RavenTest> ok thanks HymnToLife
[02:09] <eriksti> RavenTest: sudo apt-get install koffice gives you what?
[02:10] <HymnToLife> !no koffice is a free, integrated office suite for KDE. Included is word processing, spreadsheet, flowcharting, image manipulation applications and many more. See http://koffice.kde.org - for Kubuntu packages, see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-15.php
[02:10] <ubotu> HymnToLife: okay
[02:11] <RavenTest> eriksti: http://pastebin.com/717851
[02:11] <HymnToLife> RavenTest> see the link I just gave you
[02:13] <RavenTest> yes HymnToLife ... just adding it in now ... thanks
[02:15] <RavenTest> for got to run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:15] <OpenSorce> grr.....where the heck would gaim plugins directory be?
[02:15] <RavenTest> thanks for the help guys :)
[02:28] <ngh55> omg, ok, if I want to compile yakuake, what do I need? packages I mean
[02:28] <apokryphos> !info yakuake
[02:28] <ubotu> yakuake: (an alternative KDE console resembling those found in Quake), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 2.6-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 48 kB, Installed size: 344 kB
[02:29] <apokryphos> ngh55: it's available in universe
[02:29] <ngh55> ok, thnx
[02:30] <HymnToLife> ngh55> sudo apt-get build-dep yakuake will download and install it all
[02:30] <ngh55> is  there an ubuntu-kubuntu distro that install both so all libraries are already there? like gtk
[02:30] <ngh55> thnx
[02:31] <apokryphos> HymnToLife: build-dep is for resolving compile dependencies
[02:32] <apokryphos> ngh55: if you're on kubuntu, just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for all the ubuntu things on your computer, too
[02:32] <HymnToLife> apokryphos> isn't it what he wanted to do ?
[02:32] <ngh55> oohh, ok, thnx, btw, that build-dep cmmand rocks!
[02:32] <HymnToLife> [02:28]  ngh55 omg, ok, if I want to compile yakuake, what do I need? packages I mean
[02:32] <ngh55> thnx!!
[02:33] <apokryphos> HymnToLife: yes, I always find it best to first mention that their package is probably in the repositories, as it's the recommended method for downloading
[02:33] <HymnToLife> apokryphos> but not always the best
[02:34] <apokryphos> HymnToLife: 99% it's the recommended method for new users
[02:35] <ngh55> so, that way all dependencies download and install but not the actual package? so I can build from source?
[02:35] <HymnToLife> apokryphos> yes but if someone wants to learn about compiling stuff, he's got to start somewhere
[02:35] <HymnToLife> ngh55> yes, but maybe it would be easier to install the packange, saves you a lot of hassle
[02:35] <ngh55> mmhh, well, I dont mind the work
[02:36] <apokryphos> HymnToLife: yes, but new users are often don't know about repositories and that packages are available for them from there, so they embark on the tedious business of compiling 8)
[02:36] <ngh55> I like to install thing i download myself not aout
[02:36] <ngh55> auto
[02:36] <apokryphos> ngh55: there's pretty much no point compiling if there's a package in the repo.
[02:36] <ngh55> but te package can be old
[02:36] <ngh55> but don missunderstood, I realy apreciate your help
[02:36] <apokryphos> that's one of the only reasons, yes. So compare the different versions
[02:36] <apokryphos> =)
[02:38] <ngh55> where can I see how much space left is in my HD?
[02:38] <apokryphos> ngh55: df -h
[02:38] <eriksti> anyone tried enlightment with kubuntu?
[02:38] <ngh55> thnx
[02:38] <apokryphos> eriksti: a few months ago
[02:38] <apokryphos> fun to play with for a bit, but not really usable for every-day working
[02:39] <ngh55> try xfce4 , I like it and is lightweight
[02:39] <eriksti> apokryphos: know of a good guide to get it installed?
[02:39] <apokryphos> !enlightenment
[02:39] <ubotu> I guess enlightenment is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155
[02:39] <eriksti> thanks
[02:43] <ngh55> synaptic at last!!
[02:44] <eriksti> apokryphos: "E: Package enlightenment has no installation candidate"..  :(
[02:45] <apokryphos> eriksti: you must have not followed the instructions properly; you have to add that extra repository and it'd work fine
[02:46] <eriksti> apokryphos: I have done everything written there..
[02:46] <apokryphos> eriksti: are you sure you did sudo apt-get update?
[02:46] <eriksti> apokryphos: yes
[02:47] <apokryphos> eriksti: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[02:47] <raf> how can I edit a file with the konqueror's embedded advanced editor? right now i just can view, not edit files
[02:48] <HymnToLife> raf> if you want to edit files outside your home dir you have to edit them as root
[02:48] <HymnToLife> and running Konqueror as root is _not_ recommended
[02:48] <ngh55> this is great, ok, have to log off, be back in a few minutes
[02:48] <eriksti> apokryphos: http://pastebin.com/717889
[02:48] <ngh55> thnx again
[02:49] <raf> HymnToLife: so, If I want to edit my files I must be as root? even my own files?
[02:50] <HymnToLife> raf> your own files, no - but I know little about konqueror's editor
[02:50] <raf> HymnToLife: why is not recommended to open Konq as root?
[02:50] <apokryphos> eriksti: note that the howto there is for breezy
[02:50] <apokryphos> eriksti: maybe try deleting the apt preferences and then retrying the howto
[02:50] <HymnToLife> raf> because it's very easy to break your system while doing it
[02:51] <raf> HymnToLife: ok, thanks
[02:51] <jaja> join #filipino
[02:51] <digitaldemon> im having trouble running adept, i tried editing the list to get wine, but since the it can boot up, says there is an error in the config, how to reset it?
[02:51] <digitaldemon> cant*
[02:52] <eriksti> apokryphos: I removed /etc/apt/preferences and it worked.. thanks
[03:00] <I_Eat_Plastic> Has anyone ever bought skypeout minutes?
[03:01] <omega--> Hurr. I'm confused, what's newer, breezy or dapper?
[03:01] <troy> dapper is not yet released, that's how new it is :)
[03:02] <omega--> But I downloaded it already.
[03:02] <troy> beta :)
[03:02] <omega--> (Must be why that had a much nicer setup over breezy)
[03:03] <troy> omega--: it's a lot improved over breezy, so it's worth it -- they still have a few bugs to tackle though :)
[03:03] <omega--> Serious ones?
[03:03] <omega--> Would it be safe to install for an end user? (It seemed a lot more friendly if you compare it to breezy)
[03:04] <HymnToLife> omega--> two weeks befor release, I think it is
[03:04] <HymnToLife> though I never tested it myself
[03:04] <troy> I'm using it here, no problems
[03:04] <troy> the performance improvements alone are worth it
[03:05] <troy> boots at least twice as fast (it seems)
[03:05] <troy> DMA is on by default, finally... etc.
[03:05] <omega--> what.
[03:05] <omega--> DMA wasn't on by default?
[03:05] <HymnToLife> nope
[03:05] <troy> well, it was for disks, but not for cd/dvd
[03:05] <omega--> ah ok.
[03:06] <omega--> I thought you were talking about disks. :)
[03:06] <troy> hard disks without dma is death :P
[03:06] <HymnToLife> troy> CDs without DMA are a real PITA too
[03:06] <Search4Lancer> what would I kill to restart my frozen desktop?
[03:06] <HymnToLife> Search4Lancer> reboot :)
[03:06] <Search4Lancer> yeah other than that
[03:06] <omega--> The dev that did a poor job at whatever program it is that's hanging. ;-)
[03:07] <Search4Lancer> which is why I'm asking, or I would've done that
[03:07] <Search4Lancer> heh
[03:07] <omega--> You could probably press ctrl+alt+backspace to kill it maybe?
[03:07] <troy> Search4Lancer: how frozen is it?
[03:07] <HymnToLife> lmao omega-- nice one :D
[03:07] <Search4Lancer> damn near solid, troy
[03:07] <omega--> Otherwise just kill x I think.
[03:07] <troy> Search4Lancer: do you have another computer on your home network? you can try to ssh in and look at the process table..
[03:08] <Search4Lancer> it's the result of right clicking on an archive that turned out to be corrupt - something that's happened before
[03:08] <Search4Lancer> I can look at the process table from here just fine
[03:08] <troy> ahhh, then it's not as frozen as you make it sound :)
[03:08] <Search4Lancer> yes I said the desktop is frozen, not the whole computer
[03:09] <Search4Lancer> and icon-less
[03:09] <troy> killall ark might do the trick
[03:09] <Search4Lancer> no ark running
[03:09] <troy> what process is using the most CPU?
[03:09] <HymnToLife> then whatever archive program you are using ;)
[03:09] <omega--> Why are deps opened with ark by default?
[03:10] <Search4Lancer> gam_server, using not much
[03:10] <HymnToLife> omega--> you mean DEBs ? In Dapper double click installs them :)
[03:10] <omega--> That's not how it works with the live CD of it.
[03:11] <omega--> I get an error when konq tries to open it with ark. (something about ark not being in my PATH)
[03:11] <Search4Lancer> should I try killing Xorg?
[03:11] <troy> omega--: restart Xorg
[03:11] <omega--> You mean Search4Lancer.
[03:11] <troy> errr ^^^ that was for Search4Lancer :)
[03:12] <omega--> Right.
[03:12] <omega--> Why isn't my Kmenu updated when I install Opera?
[03:12] <omega--> (This is the liveCD by the way, maybe that's why)
[03:12] <troy> probably didn't have a .desktop file....
[03:12] <troy> omega--: run 'kappfinder'
[03:12] <Search4Lancer> and howsabout do I do that? just kill it and run it?
[03:13] <omega--> troy: yeah that's another thing.. why isn't that listed in the kmenu when running it "live"
[03:13] <troy> omega--: umm, I guess it isn't installed by default in dapper either :)
[03:13] <troy> I'm installing it now :)
[03:13] <HymnToLife> I think it is
[03:13] <omega--> strange, it's really helpful.
[03:13] <HymnToLife> perhaps not on the live CD though
[03:14] <troy> HymnToLife: it's not on the dapper install either
[03:14] <Search4Lancer> ...?
[03:14] <omega--> Also.. the apply button icon should be green. It's really shitty now because it's gray. Makes me think it's not selectable.
[03:23] <omega--> Does any of you here use a dual screen setup?
[03:26] <wasp_ems> hello..i am trying to upgrade kde and i cannot
[03:26] <wasp_ems> i have read what i need to do but nothing happens
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> What exactly have you done?
[03:27] <wasp_ems> i reformated my computer and still the same problem occurs..anyhelp?
[03:27] <wasp_ems> well i changed the reperosities and i run the code needed
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> Did you add the key?
[03:27] <wasp_ems> yes
[03:28] <wasp_ems> i get an error..it does not download
[03:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> What happens when you run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> What error?
[03:29] <wasp_ems> The following packages have been kept back:
[03:29] <wasp_ems>   akregator ark artsbuilder kaddressbook kamera kappfinder karm kate
[03:29] <wasp_ems>   kaudiocreator kcontrol kcron kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdebase-bin
[03:29] <wasp_ems>   kdebase-kio-plugins kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs4c2
[03:29] <wasp_ems>   kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wait
[03:29] <wasp_ems>   kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-wizards
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> Can you pastebin this?
[03:29] <wasp_ems>   kdeprint kdesktop kdm kfind kghostview khelpcenter kicker klaptopdaemon
[03:29] <wasp_ems>   klipper kmenuedit kmilo kmix knetworkconf knotes konq-plugins konqueror
[03:29] <wasp_ems>   konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontact kooka kopete korganizer kpdf kpf kppp
[03:29] <wasp_ems>   krdc krfb kscd kscreensaver ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash ksvg kuser
[03:29] <wasp_ems>   kwalletmanager kwifimanager kwin libkcddb1 libkonq4 libkpimexchange1
[03:29] <wasp_ems>   libkpimidentities1 libkscan1 libksieve0 libktnef1
[03:29] <wasp_ems> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 68 not upgraded.
[03:29] <wasp_ems> what do u mean?
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> !pastebin
[03:29] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:30] <wasp_ems> ok
[03:30] <khaije1> hehe
[03:31] <wasp_ems> so what do i do
[03:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: Hold on, I'm thinking :P
[03:31] <wasp_ems> ok sorry
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm not sure why it's not upgrading the packages. :\
[03:33] <wasp_ems> what i do know is when i remove the deb file then the big list turns into a small one
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> deb file?
[03:34] <wasp_ems> in the reporisities
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh, right
[03:35] <wasp_ems> the location of kde
[03:35] <wasp_ems> and it is not like i did something cause i just re installed everything
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, that would be because it no longer has KDE 3.5.2 available to upgrde.
[03:35] <wasp_ems> oh
[03:35] <wasp_ems> why not?
[03:36] <wasp_ems> so if i change it to 3.5 will it make a difference?
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Possibly, but I upgraded directly from 3.4.2 (or whatever it comes with) to 3.5.2 without a problem yesterday.
[03:37] <wasp_ems> :(
[03:37] <wasp_ems> last time everything went fine now nothing is going well
[03:38] <wasp_ems> ok i changed something check this error out
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK
[03:39] <wasp_ems> : You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:39] <wasp_ems> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:39] <wasp_ems> this comes out when i try to update
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> What did you change?
[03:39] <wasp_ems> together with some other things
[03:39] <kbrooks> OUT AND ABOUT
[03:39] <wasp_ems> well i had put a # in the wrong place
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol, that would create a problem
[03:40] <joh6nn> anyone got a guess why kmail is putting new mail from my imap account in my local inbox?
[03:40] <wasp_ems> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 68 not upgraded.
[03:40] <wasp_ems> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Kubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:40] <wasp_ems> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Kubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:40] <wasp_ems> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:40] <wasp_ems> sorry about the mess
[03:40] <wasp_ems> but that is what comes out under upgrade
[03:41] <wasp_ems> together with the files i sent before
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> Comment out the line on the top that tells it to look at the CD-ROM for upgrades. You probably wont need it anyway.
[03:42] <wasp_ems> yeah i know that but the problem still continues and i have no idea what to do
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, after you do that, run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:43] <omeow> Hello.
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hello
[03:44] <omeow> Just playing around with the live CD. :)
[03:44] <HymnToLife> !hello
[03:44] <ubotu> Hi, hymntolife!
[03:44] <omeow> Going to install it tomorrow.
[03:44] <wasp_ems> the second code cannot be found
[03:45] <wasp_ems> wrong
[03:45] <wasp_ems> anyway anything i can do?
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> Um, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is a valid command
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> I just did it. ;)
[03:46] <wasp_ems> no i wrote it wrong
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh :)
[03:46] <wasp_ems> so u do not know what i can do?
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> I assume that it didn't work, then.
[03:46] <wasp_ems> no
[03:46] <wasp_ems> :)
[03:46] <joh6nn> wasp_ems: this is a new install?
[03:47] <wasp_ems> yep
[03:47] <wasp_ems> i formated it today
[03:47] <wasp_ems> last time i had it everything was fine
[03:47] <wasp_ems> i formated it twice and the same thing happened twice
[03:47] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> did you replace all instances of breezy to dappr in your sources.list ?
[03:47] <wasp_ems> no
[03:48] <wasp_ems> what exactly do u mean?
[03:48] <HymnToLife> You need to if I remeber well
[03:48] <HymnToLife> have a look at !upgrade
[03:48] <joh6nn> wasp_ems:  try this: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:49] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> I mean you need to sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and everytime you see the word 'breezy', replace it with 'dappr'
[03:49] <HymnToLife> dapper*
[03:50] <wasp_ems> ok i will try
[03:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> Uh, that's only if you want to update to dapper
[03:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> Not if you want to update to KDE 3.5.2
[03:50] <HymnToLife> ok
[03:50] <HymnToLife> wants to update KDE ? Sorry I'm mistaken
[03:50] <joh6nn> if you're only looking to update to kde 3.5.2, there are separate repositories for it, and you should do that after you've already updated the rest of the OS
[03:51] <wasp_ems> so what should i do?
[03:51] <joh6nn> if you try to update KDE before updating the rest of the install, you get ...funky... results
[03:52] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> here(s how to update KDE : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[03:52] <wasp_ems> yeah i have read that
[03:52] <HymnToLife> orks like a charm here
[03:53] <wasp_ems> it did to me also last time
[03:53] <wasp_ems> should i add all the deb?
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, just one
[03:53] <MasterEvilAce> crap. i changed some display settings and now my monitor is blank when i restart
[03:53] <HymnToLife> just add the repo to your sources.list, run the commands to add the GPG key and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:53] <joh6nn> wasp_ems: if you haven't already update the rest of the OS, i'd wait till you've done that before updating KDE
[03:54] <wasp_ems> well i updated as much as it would
[03:54] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> run apt-get upgrade, not dist-upgrade
[03:55] <MasterEvilAce> Any ideas? Messed with display settings and now monitor is blank after restart.
[03:55] <wasp_ems> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main
[03:55] <wasp_ems> oups
[03:55] <wasp_ems> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_kde352_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:55] <wasp_ems> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_kde352_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:55] <wasp_ems> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, that's the right line. ;)
[03:55] <wasp_ems> that is what i get
[03:55] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> try another repo
[03:56] <joh6nn> MasterEvilAce: when's the screen go blank?  right after grub, or what?
[03:56] <MasterEvilAce> i see the linux loader then it goes black and nothing come sback up
[03:57] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> funny though, that one works fine here
[03:57] <wasp_ems> well i tried them all and an error always occurs
[03:57] <wasp_ems> it is not funny..it is annoying..
[03:57] <joh6nn> wasp_ems: is that on the box you're on now, or a different box?
[03:57] <HymnToLife> could you pastebin your sources.list ?
[03:57] <joh6nn> MasterEvilAce: what happens if you hit ctrl+alt+F8 ?
[03:57] <wasp_ems> what do umena?
[03:58] <wasp_ems> aa ok
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> !pastebin
[03:58] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Rates :P
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Rats*
[03:58] <wasp_ems> ok i did
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Now paste the link in here...
[03:59] <wasp_ems> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14047
[03:59] <MasterEvilAce> joh6nn: it goes to a text login screen
[04:00] <joh6nn> MasterEvilAce: try ctrl+alt+F7
[04:00] <HymnToLife> really weird..
[04:01] <HymnToLife> it definitely should work
[04:01] <wasp_ems> i know
[04:01] <wasp_ems> but for some reason it does not
[04:01] <HymnToLife> do you get the error when running apt-get update or upgrade ?
[04:01] <wasp_ems> i formated my pc today to move from windows to linux completely and this is what i get
[04:01] <joh6nn> wasp_ems: is that on the box you're on now, or on a different box?
[04:01] <wasp_ems> the one i am on
[04:02] <wasp_ems> the error comes on upgrade
[04:02] <joh6nn> then we can rule out a networking issue.  ; )
[04:02] <HymnToLife> hmm, who knows..
[04:03] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> can you ping the server ?
[04:03] <qalimas> Is there an i686 version of Kubuntu?
[04:03] <wasp_ems> what is the servers ip?
[04:03] <qalimas> Or would using a 686 kernel speed everything up and work as fast as Arch?
[04:03] <MasterEvilAce> joh6nn: nothing happens
[04:04] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> you don't need the IP, just ping http://www.mirrorservice.org/
[04:04] <wasp_ems> it says unknown host
[04:05] <HymnToLife> DNS issue then
[04:05] <joh6nn> MasterEvilAce: well, my guess is that your X server doesn't like whatever you changed your display settings to.  but, at least you can get to a login at ctrl+alt+F8
[04:05] <HymnToLife> no wonder you can't find the packages
[04:05] <HymnToLife> but it's weird you can connect to IRC
[04:05] <wasp_ems> :S
[04:05] <MasterEvilAce> joh6nn: happen to know where the settings are located for that?
[04:05] <wasp_ems> so what do i need to check
[04:05] <joh6nn> MasterEvilAce: unfortunately no.
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: try ping http://www.kubuntu.org
[04:06] <joh6nn> MasterEvilAce: but, you could try "startx" once you've logged in
[04:06] <joh6nn> i doubt it will work, but it's worth a shot
[04:06] <wasp_ems> the same thing
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm, but you can get there in Konqueror?
[04:06] <joh6nn> anybody here a Kmail user?
[04:06] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> remove the http://
[04:06] <HymnToLife> ping www.mirrorservice.org/
[04:07] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[04:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[04:07] <wasp_ems> unknown
[04:07] <ace> kmail ? yeah...!
[04:07] <joh6nn> HymnToLife: i did when i came in.  ; p
[04:07] <joh6nn> ; )
[04:08] <joh6nn> ace: you use imap at all?
[04:08] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> sorry, remove the final / too
[04:08] <ace> nope
[04:08] <joh6nn> figures
[04:08] <joh6nn> ; )
[04:08] <ace> try me :-)
[04:08] <wasp_ems> ok it worked
[04:08] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> then everything seems OK
[04:09] <wasp_ems> can i stop the ping or do i need to pait until it finishes?
[04:09] <joh6nn> okey.  well, i just started playing with kmail today, switching over from thunderbird
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Go ahead and stop it.
[04:09] <HymnToLife> my guess it because you ran dist-upgrade, maybe it messed things up
[04:09] <HymnToLife> Ctrl+C will stop it
[04:09] <wasp_ems> i did not run dist upgrade the first time thoug
[04:09] <joh6nn> and i can connect to my imap server no problem, but it keeps putting my new imap mail in my local inbox, instead of my imap inbox
[04:09] <ace> ah
[04:10] <ace> something to do with your 'identity' ?
[04:10] <ace> in pop3 you can specify which folder you ant to use
[04:10] <ace> is that the same in imap ?
[04:10] <Tombuntu> woah
[04:10] <ace> lemme have a quick look...
[04:10] <joh6nn> yeah, i haven't seen anything, but i've never used Kmail before, so i'm not even sure where to look
[04:10] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> when are you getting that "File not found" error, when running apt-get update or upgrade ?
[04:10] <wasp_ems> upgrade
[04:10] <Tombuntu> i wrote a small bash script (one long command for rdesktop) and made it executable
[04:11] <Tombuntu> however whenever i click on it kate opens it
[04:11] <Tombuntu> oh i should probably just add .sh
[04:11] <HymnToLife> then try running update now
[04:11] <wasp_ems> update is fine
[04:11] <HymnToLife> do you get any unusual stuff ?
[04:11] <ace> settings - configure kmail - identities - choose one - advanced ???
[04:11] <wasp_ems> i will paste what comes up
[04:11] <ace> Tombuntu: chmod u+x ?
[04:12] <ace> Tombuntu I don't think the .sh is needed. Not sure tough. But if the script is not executable... it won't execute :-)
[04:12] <wasp_ems> HymnToLife: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14048
[04:13] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> nothing else ? try upgrade then
[04:14] <wasp_ems> HymnToLife: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14049
[04:14] <joh6nn> ace:  i see a place where i can specify to the smtp server, and where to put drafts and sent mail
[04:14] <joh6nn> but i don't see anything about incoming mail
[04:14] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> are you sure KDE 3.5.2 is not already instaled ?
[04:15] <wasp_ems> yep it says 3.4.4
[04:15] <wasp_ems> 3.4.3
[04:15] <ace> joh6n: right... sorry: instead of identities, go to accounts...
[04:15] <HymnToLife> then for some reason it doen't see the updates
[04:15] <wasp_ems> the thing is that i cannot upgrade anything else
[04:15] <joh6nn> ok...
[04:16] <HymnToLife> I definitely think you rinning dist-upgrade messed something up
[04:16] <wasp_ems> yes but i run that after someone told me...i had not done it before and even then it did not work
[04:16] <ace> joh6n: damn... it looks like you need to do somehting with 'namesapces'
[04:17] <ace> namespaces sorry
[04:17] <ace> but i can not test that now, don't have an imap server runnig
[04:17] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> you know what I'd do if I were you ?
[04:17] <joh6nn> namespaces?
[04:17] <ace> the way I figure it works is that you can make a subfolder 'namespace' and then the inbox goes under there...
[04:17] <ace> yeah
[04:17] <wasp_ems> i found it
[04:17] <wasp_ems> the problem is with the debs
[04:18] <joh6nn> i've got one
[04:18] <joh6nn> got an inbox and everything
[04:18] <wasp_ems> i removed the deb and everything is fine
[04:18] <ace> if you 'add' an 'imap' account. it asks for login info and then you need to login
[04:18] <joh6nn> been there, done that
[04:18] <ace> i can't login because i don't have an imap server running
[04:18] <wasp_ems> so basically i need a valid deb
[04:18] <ace> i guess you can then direct your whole folder tree (including inbox and trash and drafts and all)
[04:18] <joh6nn> nope
[04:19] <HymnToLife> you removed the deb where ? in sources.list ?
[04:19] <joh6nn> not that i've been able to find
[04:19] <wasp_ems> yes
[04:19] <ace> to a certain 'namespace' which differs from you normal 'namespace' so the two inboxes won't be merged
[04:19] <ace> but as said i am not sure.
[04:19] <mister_roboto_> can anyone help me figure out why my wireless doesn't work in dapper when it worked fine in breezy?
[04:19] <HymnToLife> your apt seems messed up, I think you will get the same error with every repo
[04:19] <ace> joh6nn: what hapopens when you 'add' an 'imap' account?
[04:20] <wasp_ems> can be find a valid repo that is for an older release
[04:20] <wasp_ems> ?
[04:20] <joh6nn> er, hold on
[04:20] <HymnToLife> an older release of what ?
[04:20] <wasp_ems> kde
[04:20] <wasp_ems> older but after mine
[04:20] <HymnToLife> yes
[04:20] <wasp_ems> so we can see if that will work
[04:21] <HymnToLife> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main
[04:21] <HymnToLife> or deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde350 breezy main
[04:21] <HymnToLife> but I don't think it will work
[04:21] <wasp_ems> so what do i put as a deb?
[04:21] <HymnToLife> one line or the other
[04:21] <wasp_ems> ok..but i need to put deb in front right?
[04:22] <HymnToLife> but if the 3652 doesn't work I can't see why the others would
[04:22] <HymnToLife> yes
[04:22] <mister_roboto_> can anyone help me figure out why my wireless doesn't work in dapper when it worked fine in breezy?
[04:22] <HymnToLife> well, I'm going to bed now
[04:23] <wasp_ems> ok thanx allot though
[04:23] <joh6nn> ok, ace, i'm gonna remove the imap account i've got, and add it again
[04:23] <HymnToLife> it's kind of late here, good night people :)
[04:23] <ace> joh6nn: okay or just add a new one :-)
[04:23] <ace> joh6nn: what version of kmail ? (help->about)
[04:23] <wasp_ems> is it possible i can download kde 5.2 and installing it my self?
[04:24] <joh6nn> 1.8.3
[04:24] <ace> hmm i've got 1.9.1
[04:24] <wasp_ems> or fuck..i will find it another day..can u at least tell me how to get w32codec?
[04:24] <ace> joh6nn: so maybe I can not help ya :-(
[04:24] <ace> wasp_ems: try easybuntu (go to www.suares.an there's a link)
[04:25] <Frox> I'm having an issue with /dev/hda1 not being found on boot after a fresh install. Anyone have any thoughts?
[04:25] <ace> Frox: can you boot ?
[04:26] <wasp_ems> is that codec better than w32?
[04:26] <wasp_ems> does it support mp3,mpgetc?
[04:26] <Frox> Not fully, no. It *might* be getting past loading modules but it stops around that and drops to a shell
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> No. It lets you install them easily, wasp_ems.
[04:26] <wasp_ems> ok
[04:26] <ace> wasp_ems: no it installs the codecs and lots more check it out.
[04:27] <ace> Frox: what does 'df' tell you ?
[04:27] <Frox> "Alert! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell"
[04:27] <ace> try 'df' in that shell.
[04:28] <Frox> There is no df. It's some built in shell. Very minimal
[04:29] <Frox> I figured I'd try to boot with a liveCD to take a look at the grub config, but the liveCD version can't detect the file system on the drive.
[04:29] <Frox> It was formatted though
[04:29] <ace> frox: hmm. try 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' and see what it says
[04:30] <Frox> No fdisk either :P
[04:30] <ace> are you sure you have some standard IDE disk or do you have some scsi disk or SATA ?
[04:30] <ace> sometimes the correct module for the disk hardware is not loaded (megaraid, anyone ?) and then you're stuck...
[04:31] <Frox> It should be staright up IDE.
[04:31] <ace> 'cat /proc/devices' ??
[04:31] <Frox> SCSI does use different cables, right?
[04:32] <Frox> It's seeing ide0 and ide1 in block devices
[04:32] <ace> SCSI is ver different, could you install? What version of k/ubuntu ?
[04:32] <Frox> The install went just fine with both kubuntu and ubuntu 5.10
[04:33] <ace> did you mess with the parttition or let it do it's own thing ?
[04:34] <Frox> I tried both. Same thing no matter what I've tried so far.
[04:35] <ace> funny. you need to boot with the cd and find a way to run fdisk -l
[04:35] <Frox> That'll just show me the disk is there, no?
[04:35] <ace> probably you can use the 'expert install option' and then with Alt-F2 or ALT-F3 or so go to a shell and see what
[04:36] <ace> your disk looks like, it show partitions and how they're formatted (linux, swap, ntfs etc)
[04:36] <Frox> I'll bring that up again.
[04:36] <ace> frox are you sure you have a harddisk on /dev/hda ? not a cdrom ? is this a standard pc ??
[04:37] <Frox> I'm fairly certain. The installer also tells me that it's installing to hda
[04:38] <ace> so 1. booting says it can't find /dev/hda1 -> driver not loaded (strange) or partition is not formatted (strange)
[04:38] <ace> 2. rescure cd says: no filesystem recognized
[04:38] <Frox> That's right! I've never seen anything like this before...
[04:38] <ace> both strange. maybe harddisk broken, or install went wrong? No idea... can't look into your hw from here ;-)
[04:39] <Frox> Heh, yeah. Could be a broken drive. I'm pretty sure it's not the install since I did it with kubuntu, ubuntu, and the lastest flight of kubuntu dapper.
[04:40] <Frox> Funny thing is it's my aunt's computer and I was hoping to get her away from windows :P
[04:40] <ace> maybe reinstall to another partition ?
[04:40] <ace> just make a 1Gb partition on /dev/hda1 and then antoher say 10GB on hda2 and let it install in hda2 ?
[04:40] <ace> you never know... did it work with 'the other os (tm) ?
[04:41] <Frox> I could give that a go.
[04:41] <Frox> And yeah, win2k was working fine, aside from all the malware on it.
[04:41] <ace> what hardware ?
[04:42] <ace> I can't get two nvidia + 1 intel card to work in triple head; dual head works fine. Any clues anyone ?
[04:42] <Frox> It's a P4. Not sure of the motherboard though.
[04:42] <jeff___> hey guys
[04:43] <Frox> Yeah, fdisk does see the partitions and shows /dev/hda1 as "Linux" system.
[04:43] <ace> frox: all three installs (breezy/ubuintu/dapper) had the same problem ?
[04:43] <ace> frox: great!
[04:43] <Frox> Same problem, yeah.
[04:43] <Frox> Heh
[04:43] <jeff___> im using dapper flight 7, i installed flashplugin-nonfree, scanned for new plugins and restarted konqueror and flash movie still arent showing up
[04:43] <ace> now mkdir /mnt (if it don't exist)
[04:43] <ace> and 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt'
[04:44] <ace> jeff: use firefox ?
[04:44] <jeff___> ace: im afraid i cant do that
[04:44] <jeff___> ace: i really like konqueror
[04:44] <ace> sorry, then.
[04:44] <ace> have never seen a flash in konq :-(
[04:45] <ace> frox: what gives ?
[04:45] <Frox> Can't mount without specifying a filesystem.
[04:45] <Frox> Mounting with reiserfs tells me /dev/hda is busy
[04:45] <ace> you shouldn't mount /dev/hda but /dev/hda1 !!!!!!!
[04:46] <Frox> Heh, yeah, sorry :P
[04:46] <Frox> That's what I did
[04:46] <Frox> And it's not even in /dev
[04:46] <ace>  /dev/hda is the whole disk! /dev/hda1 is the frist partition on that disk (but you knwo thet eh ? :-)
[04:46] <Frox> Heh, yep :P
[04:46] <ace> what is not  in /dev
[04:47] <ace> is /dev/hda not in dev but /dev/hda1 is ????
[04:47] <Frox> That's right
[04:47] <Frox> Sorry...
[04:47] <ace> that is VERY strange
[04:47] <Frox> hda is there but not hda1
[04:47] <Frox> Agreed
[04:47] <ace> ah
[04:47] <ace> so you actually do  not have partitions on /dev/hda
[04:47] <Frox> Not that it can see.
[04:48] <ahmeni> Frox: do you have hdb, hdc, etc.?
[04:48] <ace> can you do a fdisk -l /dev/hda
[04:48] <Frox> But I did partition. And yeah, the other hd* are there
[04:48] <Frox> fdisk does show partitions on hda
[04:48] <ace> so, 'ls -la /dev/hd* | grep hda'
[04:49] <ace> gives you ONLY /dev/hda !? that's extrremely weird.
[04:49] <Frox> As far as hda goes, yeah. It sees hdc1 just fine.
[04:49] <Frox> I'm at a complete loss here...
[04:49] <ace> and what is /dev/hdc ? a second harddisk?
[04:49] <Frox> Yeah
[04:50] <ace> and wwhere is the cdrom ?
[04:50] <Frox> hdb and hdd I believe
[04:50] <ace> you have two ?
[04:50] <Frox> Yep
[04:50] <Frox> It's a decent system for a woman who barely knows how to e-mail :P
[04:50] <ace> try fdisk -l on all these /dev/hd[abcd]  pleae
[04:51] <Frox> sure
[04:52] <ace> you dont' have a RAID controller ? Or did you enable software RAID ?
[04:52] <Frox> It all looks fine. hda shows the partitions, hdb shows nothing (no disk in drive), hdc shows the right partition, hdd shows me some stuff about the install disc
[04:52] <Frox> I was thinking RAID but there's nothing in the BIOS that I can see.
[04:53] <Frox> Shouldn't be any software RAID unless it set itself up.
[04:53] <ace> no software rtaid needs to be explicitelydone by you during install
[04:53] <ace> it's really worng that there are no /dev/hda[123...] 
[04:54] <ace> maybe do this: get rid of hda and put the hdc disk in place of hda and try reinstall.
[04:54] <ace> I guess it must be your disk can't thinkg of anything else.
[04:54] <Frox> That could be the case.
[04:54] <ace> or maybe some wrong jumpers like setting up hda as slave and hdb as master
[04:55] <ace> but that should give you errors during install and even boot/bios
[04:55] <Frox> I doubt the bios would detect it if that were the case. But it could be a poor bios for all I know :P
[04:56] <ace> Frox: maybe a faulty ide controller, whatever... maybe minimize problems and just put one disk on hda and the cd on hdc and nothing else, and
[04:56] <ace> make sure the jumpers are set to single
[04:56] <Frox> Yeah, I'll give that a go.
[04:56] <ace> I am out of ideas, though!
[04:56] <Frox> That makes two of us :P
[04:56] <Frox> Thanks for your time though! I appreciate it.
[04:57] <ace> just doing 'fidsk /dev/hda' and the choose 'p' to show partitions, maybe yo see something strange then ?
[04:57] <ace> something like cylinders not in bound or so ?
[04:58] <Frox> It all looks fine to me. Nice and lined up, nothing going beyond what it detected.
[04:59] <Frox> It's gotta be the hardware...
[04:59] <ace> you *could* of cource mknod for those missing devices :-) and learn something about that, and then mount... waddyaknow...
[04:59] <ace> anyway, I am signing off, good luck !!!!!
[04:59] <Frox> Heh, thanks!
[04:59] <Frox> Peace
[04:59] <ace> oh as what did you format those partitions ?
[05:00] <Frox> I tried reiserfs and ext3
[05:00] <ace> in any case they should be in /dev, whatever formatting.
[05:00] <Frox> Yeah
[05:01] <DrBair> is anyone aware of a way to make the system issue a precommand when mounting a specific item in the fstab?
[05:01] <ace> you could try fdisk the disk manually (with fdisk) andf them use mkfs or similar to format a partition and the see if they are in /dev../..
[05:01] <ace> oh but I was going to sleep...
[05:01] <ace> now really :-)
[05:01] <Frox> Haha! It does work if I format it with the liveCD runnign. Very strange.
[05:01] <Frox> But sleep well!
[05:01] <Frox> I'll keep digging.
[05:02] <ace> Cool. You'll find out the problem, I am sure...!!
[05:02] <Frox> Here's hoping :)
[05:05] <jeff___> anybody know how to get flash working in konqueror?
[05:06] <jeff___> i already installed flashplugin-nonfree
[05:06] <jeff___> the plugin shows up under netscape plugins in the configuration
[05:06] <jeff___> but its not playing my movies
[05:11] <khaije1> i know rms said flash should be avoided, but (if you like silly online games) you shuold check this out http://allthingsflash.com/files/games/curveball.swf
[05:15] <ubuntu> what is this?
[05:15] <ubuntu> is this technical suppert or something... or just a chat...
[05:17] <koroded> Is there a program to set up the networking, or do I have to edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:18] <ubuntu> i dunno
[05:49] <CaBlGuY> is there something like limewire for Ubuntu??
[05:51] <stevekl> usenet :-o
[05:53] <CaBlGuY> ya ummm ok, I'll take that as a no then.. ;/
[05:53] <bimberi> !limewire
[05:53] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[05:54] <khaije1> is this a true statement --> securtiy increases from left to right: chroot, jail, VirtualPrivateServer, ViMM such as XEN
[06:11] <lwizardl> !w32
[06:11] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lwizardl
[06:11] <lwizardl> !win32
[06:11] <ubotu> lwizardl: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:12] <kakalto> is there a guide to installing nvidia drivers for legacy cards?
[06:18] <kkathman> night Snake[Sleep] 
[06:18] <CaBlGuY> kakalto,  u got the latest driver off of dev??
[06:18] <kakalto> CaBlGuY: huh? the newest nvidia drivers don't support my old TNT2
[06:20] <CaBlGuY> wow!!!  TNT2..  geeeeeeeez, ummmmm  just go out and get a new one. I mean damb, they aint that expensive..
[06:20] <CaBlGuY> :p
[06:21] <kakalto> lol
[06:21] <kakalto> nah, this comp is only a music box now :)
[06:21] <kakalto> it's just, I think that it could help to run it through the proper drivers
[06:21] <CaBlGuY> hehe very well..
[06:22] <CaBlGuY> ya think...  :p
[06:22] <kakalto> I mean, is there much point spending any money or effort trying to get a pci graphics card for this little pentium2?
[06:24] <CaBlGuY> well, ummmm  yea!!!!  I mean, that thing (the graphics card) is so damn atiquated, It probably runs like crap..
[06:24] <CaBlGuY> no offense..  ;o)
[06:24] <kakalto> HEY! my TNT2 has served me well in the past.
[06:24] <kakalto> I <3 it
[06:24] <kakalto> with a passion
[06:24] <kakalto> anyways, like I said, it's not my main box; it's just a music box for my room
[06:25] <kakalto> and the TNT2 helped the running of WinME previously
[06:25] <cnance> has anyone successfully installed the tv drivers for ati all-in-wonder card on kubuntu?
[06:27] <kakalto> cheerwine, googled it?
[06:27] <CaBlGuY> nope, can't say as I have since I'm runnin NVidia cheerwine ...  :p
[06:27] <CaBlGuY> and I'm not to sure if anyone else has at this point..
[06:27] <cheerwine> yeah
[06:28] <cheerwine> there is a group of shit you can install called gatos
[06:28] <cheerwine> but i'
[06:28] <CaBlGuY> kakalto,  U know of corse, if you would get off yur cheap ass and get a new card, yur video quality would vastly inprove..  :)
[06:28] <cheerwine> but i've tried numerous times and it's complex...it may be because i've been using linux for almost a year and dont really know everything i'm doing yet
[06:28] <CaBlGuY> just thought I would throw that out there
[06:28] <CaBlGuY> ;o)
[06:29] <CaBlGuY> cheerwine,  welcome to the club pal..  I'm a bit rusty myself..  been a while since I been on Ubuntu full swing.. so, Im remembering slowly..
[06:29] <CaBlGuY> ;o)
[06:29] <cheerwine> hmmm, I just wish there was a dpkg or something lol
[06:30] <cheerwine> it sucks cuz when I was on i formated the same week I bought the card
[06:30] <kakalto> CaBIGuY, why would I worry about video quality?
[06:30] <kakalto> I can run 1024x768
[06:30] <fakepatriot> !repos
[06:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:31] <kakalto> I mean, I'm not exactly running video or anything
[06:31] <CaBlGuY> kakalto,  ohhhhh hell I dunno..  just in case u wanna see the pics u look at in good quality I guess..
[06:31] <kakalto> lol
[06:31] <kakalto> Not sure I'll do too much browsing on here anyway ;)
[06:31] <CaBlGuY> Gotchya.  ;o)
[06:31] <ahmeni> Didn't gatos get merged into xorg or something?  They're the old ATI drivers, right?
[06:32] <CaBlGuY> I don't mess with ATI, I tried one card and it was dead on me outa the box. So, I've been strikly A NVidia guy since that point..
[06:33] <cheerwine> yeah
[06:33] <cheerwine> I had an nvidia card
[06:33] <cheerwine> but i liked the idea of watching tv on my computer since I don't have a tv in my room
[06:33] <cheerwine> :(
[06:33] <ahmeni> My geforce4 broke and i replaced it with a radeon 9200, which turned out to suck in both windows and linux
[06:33] <kakalto> hmm, I wonder if amarok will run well on this thing... :P
[06:34] <kakalto> I won't run KDE, that's sure... xubuntu sound good to me
[06:34] <CaBlGuY> lmao @ kakalto ..  yur funny
[06:34] <ahmeni> I prefer mpd and ncmpc
[06:34] <CaBlGuY> :p
[06:34] <kakalto> I'm using mp3blaster at the moment
[06:34] <kakalto> CLI music player
[06:35] <ahmeni> nice
[06:35] <CaBlGuY> U go on wit y0 bad self..
[06:35] <kakalto> I quite like it.... but amarok calls
[06:35] <CaBlGuY> :oD
[06:35] <ahmeni> mpd is a music playing daemon, with ncmpc as its curses frontend
[06:35] <CaBlGuY> U kow, Beep is better
[06:35] <ahmeni> if you like mp3blaster you'd might like it :)
[06:35] <CaBlGuY> *know
[06:35] <kakalto> yeah, I've been reccomended mpd before
[06:35] <kakalto> I just haven't got around to using it :P
[06:35] <kakalto> well, trying it
[06:35] <ahmeni> heh
[06:36] <CaBlGuY> yur not that fat lazy bum I was givin shitt in here b4 are ya??
[06:36] <CaBlGuY> like 6 months ago..  :p
[06:36] <CaBlGuY> Howdy Hobbsee   o/
[06:36] <kakalto> who?
[06:36] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: is that necessary?
[06:36] <CaBlGuY> you kakalto
[06:36] <CaBlGuY> Hobbsee,  sometimes..  :op
[06:37] <kakalto> CaBIGuY, don't think so
[06:37] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:37] <CaBlGuY> if you would keep yur dang bots off of me..  :o/
[06:37] <kakalto> don't really remember anything like that
[06:37] <kakalto> hehe
[06:37] <CaBlGuY> K kakalto  ..  ;o)
[06:37] <kakalto> hrm... e17 compiling takes a long time on a pentium2 @ 233mhz
[06:38] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[06:38] <CaBlGuY> yep, I imagine it would..
[06:38] <kakalto> I have all the libs compiled, but doing all the wm and stuff now ;)
[06:38] <kakalto> hehe
[06:38] <kakalto> I like e17 a lot.
[06:38] <CaBlGuY> wow, I can remeber my 1st 486 and how fast and great I thought it was..
[06:39] <CaBlGuY> corse it had SCZI so, it was a bit fater than a regular 486..  :p
[06:39] <kakalto> lol, I have a 486 here behind me
[06:39] <kakalto> :P
[06:39] <CaBlGuY> lol
[06:39] <CaBlGuY> ok, I wouldn't be sayin that tooo loud.. :o)
[06:39] <kakalto> I actually have a 486DX, p1, p2, p3 in other room, and my desktop
[06:39] <ahmeni> e17 works now?! :o
[06:39] <kakalto> lol
[06:39] <kakalto> ahmeni: using the easye17 script
[06:39] <kakalto> from CVS
[06:40] <kakalto> I assume it works.... but I couldn't tell you till.... likely tomorrow
[06:40] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[06:40] <CaBlGuY> Howdy shachaf  o/
[06:40] <kakalto> I love this pentium2. It has such character!
[06:40] <kakalto> I tried to give it a 40GB drive, and it was stubborn as heck!
[06:40] <CaBlGuY> sure it does kakalto   sure it does...
[06:41] <kakalto> silly bios.
[06:41] <ahmeni> should set up FreeNX on your main box!
[06:41] <CaBlGuY> U couold try to upgrade the MOBO..
[06:42] <CaBlGuY> corse then it wouldn't really be a 486 any morre kakalto  hehe
[06:42] <kakalto> eh, in the end I put a 20gb drive in it
[06:42] <kakalto> and 20GB is plenty enough for a music box
[06:43] <kakalto> I think I already have too many random scrap peices of computing to upgrade the mobo..
[06:43] <kakalto> too much junk
[06:43] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[06:45] <kakalto> error inserting nvidia: blah blah blah No such device
[06:45] <kakalto> :S
[06:45] <eriksti> am I nuts or did they break the 6 month cycle and go for 6.06 instead of 6.04?
[06:46] <kakalto> eriksti: yep... then they're going back, with the next release 6.10 as I understand
[06:46] <eriksti> kakalto: know why?
[06:47] <kakalto> eriksti, there was a bunch of new stuff they added or something
[06:47] <Hobbsee> eriksti: to make it more stable
[06:47] <Hobbsee> not much got added at all, really...
[06:47] <kakalto> really?
[06:48] <kakalto> hey, what's the status of the install & live cd integration thing?
[06:48] <eriksti> I'm wondering about buying a mac these days.. any of you tried it much?
[06:49] <eriksti> very tempted to fetch a macbook pro
[06:49] <eriksti> although expensive
[06:49] <Hobbsee> kakalto: er, it needs testing.  flight 8 is out in a couple of days, so if you want to test it there, that'd be cool...
[06:49] <ngh55> hi there
[06:49] <Hobbsee> kakalto: if you're here in a couple of days, you'll hear Riddell ask for testers
[06:50] <kakalto> Hobbsee, on my connection, it takes about a full day to download an iso
[06:50] <Hobbsee> kakalto: ouch
[06:50] <Hobbsee> dialup?
[06:50] <ngh55> hey guys, I switched to gdm, but now, how can i switch back to kdm? what file do I edit
[06:50] <kakalto> Hobbsee, 256k DSL
[06:50] <Hobbsee> sudo dpkg kdm --reconfigure?
[06:50] <kakalto> Hobbsee: but I could do
[06:50] <Hobbsee> ouchy
[06:50] <eriksti> I'm blessed with 100 mbit :P
[06:50] <lwizardl> whats a good usenet binaries app
[06:51] <lwizardl> thunderbird isn't good
[06:51] <eriksti> I live on campus though
[06:51] <kakalto> heck, even 5mbit is unheard of here in new zealand
[06:51] <kakalto> well there you go
[06:52] <kakalto> maybe 10mbit on campus's, but commercial, highest is about 3.5mbit
[06:52] <kakalto> *home
[06:52] <kakalto> not commercial
[06:52] <kakalto> >.>
[06:52] <kakalto> so... flight 8 is the integrated install/live?
[06:53] <kakalto> like, they are hoping to have that for the next release?
[06:53] <ahmeni> damn companies keep giving us more downspeed.. but nobody offers good upspeeds in their home packages :\
[06:53] <Hobbsee> flight 8 is just a snapshot release, like all the other flights...
[06:53] <Hobbsee> ahmeni: so true.  it's a pain.
[06:53] <kakalto> Hobbsee, yeah, but are they wanting install/live for the next release?
[06:53] <Hobbsee> kakalto: the live cd from about flight 7 onwards is supposed to have a working ubiquity, an installer
[06:54] <kakalto> "ubiquity" is the name of it? or a word not in my vocab?
[06:54] <Hobbsee> yes
[06:54] <kakalto> hehe
[06:54] <Hobbsee> and i may well have misspelled it
[06:54] <Lynoure> Is there any way to get Desktop pager to remember the number of rows? I always have to set them back to 3 after logging in
[06:54] <kakalto> well, it starts with u, so it must be right :P
[06:54] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:54] <ahmeni> that reminds me, gotta install dict
[07:02] <fenderman> hi :)
[07:03] <fenderman> i was wondering, is there a way to preview images in Konqeror and in Nautilus?
[07:03] <fenderman> !repositories
[07:03] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:03] <Lynoure> What package is the desktop pager thing in the panel part of?
[07:04] <Lynoure> And what is supposed to happen wen one presses "Launch pager"?
[07:04] <ahmeni> kpager, I think
[07:04] <Lynoure> (nothing happens to me)
[07:04] <Hobbsee> fenderman: yes, there is
[07:04] <fenderman> how can it be done hobbsee?
[07:05] <Hobbsee> that's what im' looking for...
[07:05] <fenderman> any help is greatly appreciated
[07:05] <eriksti> isn't that default if you just click the file?
[07:05] <Hobbsee> ah yes...
[07:05] <Hobbsee> view, preview, *
[07:05] <Hobbsee> in konq
[07:06] <fenderman> it doesn't work
[07:06] <Skrot> hm. To compile part of the kernel (a module), which has all it's dependencies already compiled in the current kernel, i really need to recompile the whole kernel, yes?
[07:08] <eriksti> I would be surprised if not, Skrot
[07:08] <Skrot> okey :)
[07:08] <fenderman> ain't there another way to see the previews in konqueror
[07:08] <fenderman> ?
[07:08] <eriksti> I haven't done such things a lot but I've programmed plenty so I don't see any other way to do it
[07:09] <eriksti> what happens when you try a file fenderman?
[07:09] <fenderman> i have to open it to see what's in it
[07:09] <fenderman> no preview
[07:10] <fenderman> no music preview either
[07:10] <Hobbsee> fenderman: you can try setting it in kpersonalizer - the settings are there..
[07:10] <Hobbsee> and that seems to work...
[07:11] <fenderman> how do i get to kpersonalizer
[07:11] <fenderman> in terminal?
[07:11] <eriksti> how would you preview music?
[07:11] <fenderman> the tune would sound
[07:11] <fenderman> it worked just as i updated to KDE 3.5.1
[07:11] <eriksti> as you hover it with your mouse?
[07:11] <fenderman> right
[07:12] <eriksti> nice.. never tried that
[07:13] <Hobbsee> mine's right click, preview...cool :D
[07:14] <fenderman> it worked automagically
[07:14] <bluemeus> hi all
[07:14] <fenderman> hi bluemeuse :)
[07:15] <bluemeus> (: ... anybody out there experienced with D-Link G650+ WirelessCard?
[07:15] <fenderman> i'm trying kpersonalizer
[07:15] <fenderman> thanks a lot
[07:15] <fenderman> brb
[07:16] <bluemeus> mhh
[07:16] <Lynoure> Sorry to ask again, but does pressing Launch pager from the pager menu do anything to anyone? What is it supposed to do as nothing visible happens on my system...
[07:16] <bluemeus> brb
[07:17] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: iv'e got no idea, i cant see what it'd doing on mine...
[07:17] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: I guess I'll file a bug on that, as I'm filing other one on kpager too...
[07:18] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: check man kpager for what it's supposed to do...
[07:19] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: I will, but not giving any reaction is a usability bug, at least...
[07:20] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: that bug...make sure you file it under kde-base
[07:20] <Hobbsee> er, kdebase
[07:20] <Lynoure> No manual entry for kpager
[07:20] <Hobbsee> so i just discovered.  that's a bug in itself, IIRC.
[07:21] <Hobbsee> how odd...
[07:21] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: Lots  of things don't have man. Do kde graphical stuff normall come with man?
[07:21] <Hobbsee> i thought it did.  in fact, i thought that all debian packages had to have a man page with them...
[07:22] <Lynoure> klipper does not have oeither, nor kwallet...
[07:22] <Hobbsee> ick.
[07:23] <Lynoure> konqueror had one, at least :)
[07:23] <Hobbsee> true.  akregator does
[07:23] <Hobbsee> seeing as it was the one for kontact, for a while :P
[07:25] <fenderbrb> hi, i had no luck with kpersonalizer
[07:25] <Hobbsee> fenderbrb: :(
[07:25] <fenderbrb> !backports
[07:25] <ubotu> well, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[07:26] <fenderbrb> anybody knows if KDE 3.5.2 is out?
[07:26] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: I didn't report a bug for no man pages, just mentioned it in another bug...
[07:26] <Hobbsee> fenderbrb: months ago.
[07:26] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: ah okay...
[07:27] <Hobbsee> if you find more packages, tell me about them please :)
[07:27] <fenderbrb> how can i get it?
[07:27] <Hobbsee> fenderbrb: breezy?
[07:27] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.2
[07:27] <ubotu> it has been said that kde3.5.2 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[07:27] <fenderbrb> yes
[07:27] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: I'm a typical geek, don't go manning unless I feel I have to. but I can give it a try.
[07:27] <fenderbrb> !kde3.5.2
[07:28] <kkathman> Howdy Hobbsee :)
[07:28] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:28] <Hobbsee> hi kkathman
[07:29] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  how are you tonight?
[07:29] <kkathman> er today I guess there
[07:29] <Lynoure> This fine morning... :)
[07:29] <Hobbsee> kkathman: i'm okay, looking at these missing man pages...
[07:30] <Lynoure> I just love it how irc has noon and night at the same time :)
[07:30] <kkathman> oops
[07:30] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:30] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  odd.. didnt think they would change any
[07:30] <Hobbsee> well, trying to figure out where they are...
[07:32] <Hobbsee> how interesting...
[07:34] <Lynoure> hmm, I wonder if there is a feed of RSS feed somewhere...
[07:35] <CaBlGuY-Sleep> night peeps..   Hobbsee  o/
[07:35] <Hobbsee> raphink: all kde apps are supposed to have man pages arent they?  why would there be some in debian, but not ubuntu?
[07:40] <sword-> hmm
[07:40] <sword-> im getting an interesting error here
[07:40] <sword-> root@ubuntu:/var/lib/dpkg# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:40] <sword-> dpkg-query: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
[07:40] <sword->  EOF after field name `'
[07:40] <sword-> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is not installed
[07:40] <sword-> when clearly xserver-xorg is installed
[07:43] <Lynoure> sword-: installed on that go? It can also mean the upgrade is not installed
[07:43] <sword-> yeah i upgraded , or attempted to, upgrade xserver-xorg
[07:43] <sword-> i'm having my client randomly freeze / reboot
[07:44] <sword-> freeze when i am on a site with a LOT of pictures on a site for example in firefox
[07:44] <sword-> err *crashed
[07:44] <sword-> froze on a video i was watching in mplayer
[07:46] <[CoN] bLuE> does anybody know, if the drapper drake will be released in the time they told?
[07:47] <raphink> Hobbsee: how do you mean?
[07:47] <raphink> yes all binaries are supposed to have man pages according to Debian policy
[07:48] <raphink> [CoN] bLuE: why not?
[07:48] <Hobbsee> raphink: that's what i thought.  then why is there no manpage for kpager?
[07:48] <[CoN] bLuE> just a question raphink
[07:48] <Hobbsee> there's one in the source dir for the current kubuntu package - but it doesnt seem to be installed
[07:48] <raphink> Hobbsee: was the package taken from debian?
[07:48] <raphink> Hobbsee: then have it installed :)
[07:48] <Hobbsee> raphink: i'm not sure, i doubt it...
[07:48] <raphink> Hobbsee: btw, I had your change in cdbs being taken
[07:48] <Hobbsee> seeing as debian's not on kde 3.5.2, i think
[07:49] <Hobbsee> raphink: thanks :)  i saw someone had
[07:49] <Hobbsee> !info linux-restricted-modules dapper
[07:49] <raphink> Hobbsee: man:/kpager in konqueror
[07:49] <raphink> it works
[07:49] <raphink> so ther's a man
[07:49] <sword-> cool
[07:49] <Hobbsee> hmm...odd.  doesnt seem to work in konsole.
[07:49] <sword-> okay
[07:50] <sword-> my system rebooted itself while playing a video
[07:50] <sword-> in mplayer
[07:50] <raphink> yes it does here Hobbsee
[07:50] <raphink> sword-: rebooted ?
[07:50] <Hobbsee> okay, so there's something crazy about my system, and another persons...
[07:50] <raphink> sword-: violently or softly?
[07:51] <sword-> softly
[07:51] <sword-> it just rebooted like nothing happened
[07:53] <Hobbsee> !restricted
[07:53] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:53] <[CoN] bLuE> I got a thinkpad and want to enable the Fn-Keys... but after restarting, /dev/nvram isn't set chmod 0666 and mknod is not aktivated. so my question: where can i add the loading cmd's to activate at startup?
[07:53] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[07:53] <[CoN] bLuE> !info
[07:53] <peanutbutter7836>  i just tryed installing vhcs but the installer script says "If specified by -literal_key, then the key length must be equal to the chosen cipher's key length of 56 bytes at /var/www/vhcs2/engine/setup/../vhcs2_common_code.pl line 1408" and exits how do i fix this
[07:55] <[CoN] bLuE> I got a thinkpad and want to enable the Fn-Keys... but after restarting, /dev/nvram isn't set chmod 0666 and mknod is not aktivated. so my question: where can i add the loading cmd's to activate at startup?
[07:57] <via`hiptop> sup
[08:02] <via`hiptop> anybody know of games similar to cube for linux?
[08:02] <raphink> via`hiptop: hmm cube works in linux ;)
[08:02] <via`hiptop> i kno
[08:02] <via`hiptop> but its kinda like doom
[08:02] <via`hiptop> i like cs .  its a lil slower pace
[08:03] <raphink> via`hiptop: if you understand french, have a look at http://jeuxlibres.net/
[08:03] <via`hiptop> i dont but i will anyways lol
[08:08] <[CoN] bLuE> Neu
[08:13] <sword-> ok so it rebooted again...actually client died
[08:13] <sword-> cant you just use nvidia drivers w/ xfree86
[08:13] <sword-> and not xorg?
[08:13] <`cheerwine> ?
[08:14] <`cheerwine> que esta su problemo?
[08:14] <sword-> si
[08:14] <sword-> the problem is
[08:14] <sword-> my x client randomly reboots when running video
[08:15] <`cheerwine> playing video?
[08:15] <`cheerwine> like movies and stuff
[08:16] <sword-> yes
[08:16] <sword-> a movie in mplayer
[08:16] <`cheerwine> hrmmm, did you try reinstalling the x client?
[08:16] <sword-> oh i had an interesting error
[08:16] <`cheerwine> or, upgrading th e x client?
[08:17] <sword-> i tried upgrading it
[08:17] <sword-> ill show you the msg one sec
[08:18] <sword-> Preconfiguring packages ...
[08:18] <sword-> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
[08:18] <sword->  EOF after field name `'
[08:18] <sword-> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[08:18] <sword-> root@ubuntu:/home/sword#
[08:19] <sword-> but i havent upgraded, ill do it in a moment
[08:19] <mianik> how do i xorgconfig in ubuntu?
[08:19] <mianik> kubuntu*
[08:20] <sword-> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:21] <maxi_> hello!
[08:21] <`cheerwine> what's up!
[08:23] <sword-> which reminds me
[08:23] <sword-> look at this `cheerwine
[08:23] <`cheerwine> sup
[08:25] <sword-> root@ubuntu:/home/sword# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:25] <sword-> dpkg-query: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
[08:25] <sword->  EOF after field name `'
[08:25] <sword-> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is not installed
[08:25] <sword-> root@ubuntu:/home/sword#
[08:26] <`cheerwine> that's weird
[08:26] <`cheerwine> where are you getting your dpkg from?
[08:26] <`cheerwine> you might want to try, synaptic.  I use it for most stuff.
[08:26] <`cheerwine> or just apt-get
[08:27] <sword-> yeah
[08:27] <`cheerwine> cuz unless your repositories are screwed up you should be safe doing that
[08:27] <sword-> correct
[08:27] <sword-> ill chekc out my repositories again
[08:27] <sword-> but they haven't been altered
[08:28] <sword-> ran an apt-get update
[08:28] <sword-> seems fine
[08:59] <sword-> ok
[08:59] <sword-> so i attempted to upgrade xserver-xorg
[08:59] <sword-> and got this again
[08:59] <sword-> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
[08:59] <sword->  EOF after field name `'
[08:59] <sword-> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[08:59] <sword-> root@ubuntu:/home/sword#
[08:59] <sword-> 
[09:03] <zorgluuu> sword-, /var/lib/dpkg/availablei slikely to be corrupted
[09:04] <sword-> how do i fix that
[09:04] <sword-> copy the available-old to avaiable?
[09:06] <zorgluuu> sword-, that what i would do. but as a disclaimer it is dangerous
[09:06] <zorgluuu> look at less /var/log/dpkg/available and see if you see anything weird
[09:07] <vega-> hm, what is the "default" image viewer in kubuntu?
[09:07] <vega-> or is there one..
[09:07] <sword-> hmm
[09:07] <sword-> /var/lib/dpkg/available is a binary file
[09:07] <zorgluuu> it is ?
[09:08] <zorgluuu> i looked mine, it is a ascii one
[09:08] <sword-> im going to move available-old
[09:08] <sword-> this is weird
[09:08] <zorgluuu> containing .lsm stuff
[09:08] <vega-> /var/lib/dpkg/available is ascii
[09:08] <sword-> yeah it should be
[09:08] <sword-> ok solved the problem
[09:08] <zorgluuu> cool
[09:09] <sword-> now i will see if i can solve this problem with X
[09:25] <sword> okay i think i figured out the problem w/ mplayer causing the xclient to restart
[09:37] <sword> how do i find out which version of xorg im using
[09:44] <raphink> sword: dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[09:47] <sword> what does this mean
[09:47] <sword> root@ubuntu:/etc/privoxy# dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[09:47] <sword> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[09:47] <sword> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[09:47] <sword> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[09:47] <sword> ||/ Name              Version           Description
[09:47] <sword> +++-[09:47] <sword> ii  xserver-xorg      6.8.2-77.1        the X.Org X server (dummy package)
[09:48] <raphink> it means what it says
[09:48] <raphink> that you have version 6.8.2
[09:48] <raphink> Debian revision 77.1
[09:48] <raphink> which is surprising if you're using kubuntu I'd say
[09:49] <raphink> although I don't know ubuntu versions of xorg by heart
[09:49] <sword> no i was wondering if there was any problems with it
[09:49] <raphink> why ?
[09:50] <Tombuntu> hey
[09:50] <Tombuntu> im having problems with the distro build of tunderbird
[09:50] <Tombuntu> thunder*
[09:50] <raphink> ii  xserver-xorg                           6.8.2-77                               the X.Org X server (dummy package)
[09:50] <Tombuntu> namely that it connects to gmail ssl pop but never asks for my pass, just lets the bar move
[09:50] <raphink> this is what I have on a breezy box
[09:51] <sword> raphink, one moment
[09:51] <sword> restarting x client
[09:51] <raphink> why would you use thunderbird in kde ?
[09:51] <raphink> when we have kmail
[09:51] <raphink> :s
[09:51] <raphink> it's so no integrated
[09:52] <GazzaK> Now Playing: Uninvited by Alanis Morisette from City Of Angels (0:06/4:35)
[09:52] <Tombuntu> how do you know im on kde
[09:52] <Tombuntu> you didnt ctcp version me and see im on konversation
[09:52] <raphink> Tombuntu: why would you ask on #kubuntu if you were on GNOME?
[09:53] <Tombuntu> oh
[09:53] <Tombuntu> damn im a ofol :(
[09:53] <Tombuntu> fool*
[09:53] <GazzaK> i'm on gnome raphink , well here I am
[09:53] <Tombuntu> anyway i like thunderbird and already have a ton of mail in it, but i like it :)
[09:53] <raphink> GazzaK: sorry for you :)
[09:53] <GazzaK> at home i'm on kubuntu
[09:53] <GazzaK> raphink, :p
[09:53] <raphink> Tombuntu: did you even try kmail?
[09:54] <Tombuntu> hey im a windows user switching from linux id like to get sound working properly and my screen resolution good before i make it so i can never go back
[09:54] <Tombuntu> switching to linux*
[09:54] <raphink> hmm
[09:54] <Tombuntu> in other words i thought linux was about freedom not about SOFTWARE LOCKS IMPLEMENTED BY BEING DEPENDANT UPON KMAIL
[09:54] <Tombuntu> take that
[09:54] <raphink> did you try setting kmix with the proper pcm for the sound?
[09:55] <raphink> of course Tombuntu :)
[09:55] <Tombuntu> its not that sound doesnt work its that its quiet
[09:55] <raphink> I'm just suggesting, since kmail is very integrated in KDE and most people don't have a look at it
[09:55] <Tombuntu> and if i boost it all the way its quiet but sounds forced 9meaning crap)
[09:56] <GazzaK> thats odd Tombuntu (nice nick btw)  at home I have no issues with sound
[09:56] <raphink> KDE apps are about integration, shared libraries and common interfaces.
[09:56] <raphink> it's made to all work together
[09:56] <raphink> GazzaK: depends on the hardware
[09:56] <raphink> hi Hobbsee
[09:56] <Tombuntu> GazzaK: sony vaio vgn-t250p
[09:56] <Hobbsee_> hi raphink
[09:57] <raphink> hehe
[09:57] <Hobbsee_> heh
[09:57] <Hobbsee_> i think i killed it
[09:57] <Tombuntu> im still working on getting a 1280x768 screen (its ok with 1024x768 and 1024x600 and i did the dpkg reconfig for xorg and even xorg.conf editing) working
[09:58] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~/Desktop$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:58] <Hobbsee> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[09:58] <Hobbsee> hmm...
[09:58] <raphink> :(
[09:59] <Tombuntu> o ya dvds dont work
[09:59] <Tombuntu> i installed a hodgepodge of things to try though
[09:59] <GazzaK> have you run through the wiki guide on restrictedformats?
[09:59] <Tombuntu> whatever looked good under an adept search for dvd, for xine, for gstreamer
[09:59] <Tombuntu> no i have not
[09:59] <Tombuntu> link sir
[10:00] <Hobbsee> ah yes...i found the solution to this a while aog...
[10:00] <Hobbsee> you need 2 packages, one of which is libdvdread3
[10:00] <raphink> !restrictedformats
[10:00] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:01] <Hobbsee> i think libdvdplay0 is the other
[10:02] <Tombuntu> the only sad thing is i got mkvs working but theres no way to control the subtitles in kaffeine
[10:02] <Tombuntu> and the other programs were hit and miss, i believe vlc hated it and xine just didnt really work
[10:03] <voicu> Hi, how do I set up a network interface to have more than one IP address in kubuntu?
[10:03] <_s3B4s_> hello, somebody have any problems with the resolution 115x864, becouse the X11 font going mad after i change my resolution, they are much bigger
[10:03] <_s3B4s_> whats can be the problem
[10:03] <_s3B4s_> ?
[10:03] <raphink> 115x864 ? O_O
[10:04] <Tombuntu> voicu: easiest way is to install webmin and do it through there (imo)
[10:04] <_s3B4s_> 1152x864
[10:04] <Tombuntu> but i am not a linux master i am merely a hack
[10:04] <_s3B4s_> sorry:P
[10:04] <voicu> ok, it's something, i'll try that
[10:05] <_s3B4s_> raphink: do have any idea?
[10:05] <raphink> voicu: you mean one card with two IPs ??
[10:05] <voicu> raphink: yes
[10:05] <voicu> one for the internet and one for the wan
[10:05] <raphink> ah indeed there is no simple tool for that, except maybe webmin as Tombuntu said
[10:05] <bleaked> is anyone here any good with dmix?
[10:05] <raphink> huh?
[10:05] <raphink> voicu: then two cards, with an IP each
[10:06] <voicu> no, in windows you can have more than one ip
[10:06] <voicu> with different netmasks and gateways
[10:06] <raphink> same here voicu
[10:06] <raphink> but I'm used to having more than one IP on different cards
[10:07] <voicu> well... in windows it works
[10:07] <raphink> sorry
[10:07] <raphink> I'm used to having one IP for one card
[10:07] <voicu> aha
[10:07] <raphink> i'm a bit sleepy :(
[10:07] <raphink> so I'd have two cards for two IPs
[10:07] <raphink> in your case
[10:07] <voicu> honestly I can't really comprehend how that works but it works :D
[10:07] <raphink> eth0 for ethernet and something like ra0 for ex for wan
[10:08] <voicu> oh, but the wan is my connection to the net
[10:08] <raphink> you have one card for the wired network and one for the wireless right?
[10:08] <voicu> it's just that this way the network traffic will be on another server other than the internet one
[10:08] <_s3B4s_> no body knows?
[10:08] <raphink> voicu: do you have kubuntu breezy or dapper?
[10:08] <_s3B4s_> :(
[10:08] <voicu> breezy
[10:09] <raphink> voicu: huh?
[10:09] <voicu> _s3B4s_: maybe the monitor isn't set up right
[10:09] <raphink> what network traffic ?
[10:09] <raphink> what do you mean?
[10:09] <_s3B4s_> its only the fonts of x11
[10:09] <raphink> _s3B4s_: well your resolution is not usual
[10:09] <_s3B4s_> nothing else is wrong
[10:10] <voicu> raphink: the ISP gave us 2 IPs, one for connecting inside the network and one that is a real ip for the internet
[10:10] <raphink> inside what network voicu?
[10:10] <Tombuntu> use webmin
[10:10] <voicu> the wan
[10:10] <Tombuntu> this does virtual eth0s
[10:10] <Tombuntu> it will show up as eth0:1
[10:10] <Tombuntu> or eth0:2
[10:10] <Tombuntu> however you configure it
[10:10] <voicu> i tried that eth0:1 stuff
[10:10] <Tombuntu> it works in webmin damnit
[10:10] <voicu> ok :)
[10:15] <sword-> hmm
[10:15] <sword-> had to use a different config for xorg
[10:15] <sword-> that's cool
[10:15] <voicu> is webmin-inted the module i need?
[10:15] <voicu> *inetd
[10:16] <raphink> I doubt so voicu
[10:17] <voicu> what is LDAP?
[10:17] <sword-> what does all this mean
[10:17] <sword-> root@ubuntu:/home/sword# dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[10:17] <sword-> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[10:17] <sword-> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[10:17] <sword-> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[10:18] <sword-> ii  xserver-xorg      6.8.2-77.1        the X.Org X server (dummy package
[10:18] <raphink> voicu: LDAP is a database, mostly used by windows
[10:19] <raphink> there is a free implementation of it called openldap
[10:19] <voicu> ok :P
[10:19] <raphink> sword-: it means you created a root account on ubuntu, which is not usual and not recommended ;)
[10:19] <raphink> apart from that
[10:19] <raphink> it means you have xserver-xorg version 6.8.2-77.1 installed
[10:19] <sword-> hehe
[10:19] <raphink> on your system
[10:19] <sword-> besides that
[10:20] <sword-> i thought that there could possibly be some problems
[10:20] <sword-> with my dpkg instal
[10:20] <voicu> i can't find the network module
[10:20] <sword-> just making sure raphink :)
[10:20] <raphink> voicu: never used webmin, ask Tombuntu
[10:20] <raphink> sword-: how did you install it?
[10:20] <sword-> im trying to get this thing stable
[10:20] <sword-> apt-get upgrade xserver-xorg
[10:20] <voicu> Tombuntu, you here?
[10:21] <raphink> no need to specify the package name for an upgrade
[10:21] <raphink> it upgrades the whole system
[10:21] <raphink> and that's fine
[10:21] <raphink> 77.1 is the current revision for breezy
[10:21] <raphink> as far as I can see
[10:21] <sword-> alright cool
[10:21] <raphink> just upgrading, too
[10:22] <raphink> as it seems 77.1 was added not long ago
[10:22] <sword-> aha
[10:22] <raphink> probably a security fix
[10:22] <sword-> just trying to figure out some stability problems
[10:22] <sword-> brb
[10:23] <sword-> hey one more question lol
[10:23] <sword-> would you know the answer to this
[10:23] <sword-> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176657
[10:24] <raphink> no I don't have the answer
[10:24] <duckdown> Hey all.. If I'm doing a "cat * |grep string" and I find the string I'm looking for, how can I actually find out what file its inside?  That just displays the found lines
[10:25] <raphink> duckdown: I'd use a grep -d recurse instead
[10:25] <raphink> grep -d recurse "string" ./
[10:25] <duckdown> Hmmm let me try, thanks man
[10:25] <raphink> you'll get the same results (except it'll go inside directories, too)
[10:25] <raphink> but it'll tell you the names of the files
[10:25] <raphink> or just
[10:26] <raphink> grep "string" ./*
[10:26] <raphink> if you don't want the recursion
[10:26] <duckdown> Worked great
[10:26] <duckdown> thanks man, that did it
[10:26] <duckdown> :D
[10:26] <raphink> you're welcome
[10:26] <raphink> re Hobbsee
[10:27] <Hobbsee> hi raphink
[10:27] <Hobbsee> well that didnt work...
[10:28] <raphink> what?
[10:28] <raphink> ndis ?
[10:30] <Hobbsee> raphink: yeah, that's teh one
[10:30] <sword-> raphink, darn
[10:30] <raphink> what??
[10:31] <sword-> you dont know the answer to my question :)
[10:32] <raphink> if there's one I don't know it
[10:32] <raphink> I think few programs deal with their own sound settings
[10:33] <sword-> yeah it could be driver dependant
[10:36] <duckdown> Can I apt-get something like irssi without root on anoter ubuntu system?
[10:37] <duckdown> or do i need to compile it myself
[10:44] <visik7> duckdown: no u can't
[10:44] <kosh> sudo apt-get install irssi
[10:54] <maffiuss> hey
[10:56] <ahmeni> duckdown: you can apt-get source irssi to pull the source in, but you'd have to build to work from your home directory
[10:57] <ahmeni> build it*
[11:01] <maku> witam
[11:05] <sword-> how do you find out the version of kubuntu you're using?
[11:17] <mnb> has someone experience with setting up dual-head in the xorg.conf ?
[11:17] <mnb> keyword: Xinerama ? ;-)
[11:18] <Fuzzy76> I've got _experience_ per se, but I never got it working. :p
[11:18] <zorglu1> hehe
[11:18] <mnb> lol
[11:19] <ahmeni> sword-: /etc/issue
[11:19] <sword-> k
[11:19] <sword-> is dapper newer than badger?
[11:20] <ahmeni> ja
[11:20] <mnb> Ife using kubuntu for 2 Days ;-)
[11:20] <ahmeni> breezy badger->dapper drake->edgy eft
[11:21] <sword-> is it the most stable version? (dapper)
[11:21] <ahmeni> no, it's still the "development" version for a little longer
[11:21] <sword-> alright
[11:21] <mnb> can someqone help me with setting up a dual Head in the xorg.conf ?
[11:21] <ng_> kubuntu dapper is more stable than breezy...
[11:22] <sword-> ng_, im going to recompile my kernel to help w/ stabilty
[11:22] <sword-> it's just certain apps i need to be really stable
[11:22] <GazzaK> is the next one gonna be felching foxbat?
[11:23] <sword-> but i kinda push my system
[11:24] <Fuzzy76> I'm doing my second attempt at Kubuntu as we speak. I could get links to work correctly in Firefox and Thunderbird the last time I tried. :(
[11:25] <kosh> the odds of a kernel recompile making the system more stable is darn close to zero
[11:25] <kosh> upgrading a kernel might make the system more stable if there are bugs fixed in that kernel that effect your system
[11:25] <kosh> but just a simple recompile of the existing kernel is unlikely to help anything
[11:26] <sword-> hmm
[11:26] <sword-> wtf
[11:40] <jack> can someone helpe me with kmail?
[11:40] <jack> i have different emailadresses i kmail and it says when i try to send not from the defaul mail address
[11:41] <jack> "The server responded: "5.7.0 {mp034} Sender address does not belong to logged in user""
[11:47] <fabs> Hello everyone
[11:48] <jack> hi
[11:48] <fabs> hi jack
[11:49] <fabs> just a quick question, is there any way to stop Adept to ask for kubuntu cd-rom everytim
[11:49] <fabs> e I do an update?
[11:49] <GazzaK> put  a # in on the sources.list entry
[11:50] <fabs> oh, in which entry exactly?
[11:50] <GazzaK> one mo
[11:50] <fabs> kk, thanks
[11:51] <fabs> prob I found it, deb cdrom Kubuntu
[11:51] <GazzaK> thats the one
[11:51] <GazzaK> put a # at the start of the line
[11:51] <fabs> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger...
[11:52] <GazzaK> so it is "# deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger.."
[11:52] <fabs> cool, will it make the update slower?
[11:52] <GazzaK> it will make it look only to the repositrys for updates, since the cdrom won't have updates, then no
[11:52] <GazzaK> I don't think
[11:52] <fabs> GazzaK: thanks, great help.
[11:53] <GazzaK> no problems, glad I can help
[11:53] <fabs> ;), bye for now
[11:55] <NauSeuM> um. i am a bit new to kubuntu (and debian) but not that new to linux... i just put a soundblaster live card into an existing instal of kubuntu dapper.. but i can't seem to get alsa to see it
[11:55] <NauSeuM> any pointers would be awesome
[11:55] <jack> who is into kmail?
[11:56] <noiesmo> NauSeuM, do lsmod | grep snd see if modules for sound are loaded
[11:56] <NauSeuM> they are but still for the old soundcard (on board cmipci)
[11:57] <NauSeuM> i modprobed the emu10k1 stuff, but i don't know how to associate it with alsa or to make it look for it on boot
[11:57] <noiesmo> NauSeuM, when i run sound card  I disable the onboard card thru bios then when reboot the snd/card gets picked up
[11:57] <kosh> NauSeuM: that is strange, you should have just put the card in and turned the box on
[11:57] <NauSeuM> yeah
[11:57] <sword> hmm
[11:57] <sword> for some reason kde is giving me shit
[11:57] <sword> i'm in gnome now
[11:57] <kosh> NauSeuM: the modules for the emu10k1 are built into the system and they autoprobe
[11:58] <NauSeuM> it might be because the onboard is still "turned on"
[11:58] <NauSeuM> kosh: no autoprobe, actually
[11:58] <noiesmo> NauSeuM, think its because you have 2 snd cards it doesnt know which to use
[11:58] <NauSeuM> i had to load them
[11:58] <kosh> NauSeuM: it should still load the emu10k1 stuff, however you might want to disable the onboard sound
[11:58] <sword> how do you switch between desktops?
[11:58] <sword> i typed startx in the command promp
[11:58] <noiesmo>  when i run sound card  I disable the onboard card thru bios then when reboot the snd/card gets picked up
[11:58] <sword> it automatically took me to gnome
[11:59] <kosh> NauSeuM: this is a default kernel and install of ubuntu right?
[11:59] <NauSeuM> upgraded dapper install
[11:59] <kosh> NauSeuM: and not some ancient version?
[11:59] <NauSeuM> 2.6.15-22-386
[11:59] <kosh> hmm that just seems so weird for that not to just automatically work
[11:59] <NauSeuM> yeah
[11:59] <NauSeuM> maybe the cards are clashing
[11:59] <noiesmo> NauSeuM, either unload all onboard related snd modules or reboot and change bios for onboard card
[12:00] <NauSeuM> i'll try to figure out how to turn the onboard off
[12:00] <jack> "The server responded: "5.7.0 {mp034} Sender address does not belong to logged in user""
[12:00] <noiesmo> NauSeuM, normally BIOS
[12:00] <NauSeuM> is kubuntu sposed to have only /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
[12:00] <jack> this i get when i try to use not my default email address in kmail
[12:00] <kosh> sword: so what is not working about kde for you?
[12:01] <NauSeuM> id that what would restart alsa?
[12:01] <kosh> jack: it means that the server you just tried to connect to is not the right one for that email address you tried to use
[12:01] <NauSeuM> s/id/is/
[12:01] <kosh> jack: for instance you have email address foo@someserver.com and you just connect to some smpt.otherserver.com and tried to send with foo@someserver.com
[12:02] <sword> kosh, well it has froze for some reason prior
[12:02] <sword> and kubuntu upon booting up should go to kde
[12:02] <sword> but now it doesnt
[12:03] <sword> it goes to kdm
[12:03] <sword> flickers
[12:03] <sword> then i go to acommand prompt
[12:03] <ahmeni> is it trying to load kdm and gdm?
[12:03] <kosh> what version of kubuntu are you running? did you try and upgrade it?
[12:03] <noiesmo> sword, sounds like your x is not right check /var/log/xorg.0.log
[12:03] <sword> kdm is the preferred program
[12:03] <sword> okay
[12:03] <kosh> ahmeni: the system won't do that, one of the dms will set itself as default on install
[12:04] <ahmeni> ooh, nice
[12:04] <jack> kosh thank u but they are alle gmx.de mail adresses
[12:06] <kosh> jack: hmm
[12:06] <kosh> jack: have you considered an excorcism?
[12:06] <jack> kosh i used mail.gmx.net and pop.gmx.net
[12:06] <kosh> ahmeni: that is a normal debian thing, the actual dm use is a symlink somewhere, where kdm or gdm is installed it asks if you want it to be the default one and it will set itself to that symlink
[12:06] <sword> nothing ackward noiesmo
[12:06] <sword> im going to try to run kde again
[12:07] <sword> but i dont know how to change my session as mentioned
[12:07] <sword> because i run startx and it automatically goes to KDE
[12:07] <wasp_ems> good morning
[12:07] <kosh> sword: have you tried to upgrade kubuntu to something other then breezy?
[12:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[12:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> which is the man file to know how to edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:08] <wasp_ems> when i try and write a cd or dvd it does not allow me to use files from the network..it says u can only select local files..any help?
[12:08] <sword> kosh, no
[12:08] <sword> it's still breezy
[12:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !network
[12:09] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[12:09] <sword> should this alarm me
[12:09] <sword> root@ubuntu:/home/sword# dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[12:09] <sword> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[12:09] <sword> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[12:09] <sword> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[12:09] <sword> ||/ Name            Version         Description
[12:09] <sword> +++-[12:09] <sword> ii  xserver-xorg    6.8.2-77.1      the X.Org X server (dummy package)
[12:15] <wasp_ems> anyone know how i can make k3b to be able to get files from the network and copy them?
[12:19] <sword_> hmm
[12:19] <sword_> i think i fixed the problem
[12:34] <jack> anyone help?
[12:34] <jack> this i get when i try to use not my default email address in kmail
[12:34] <jack> "The server responded: "5.7.0 {mp034} Sender address does not belong to logged in user""
[12:36] <raphink> sword-: how many people are you gonna ask about your xorg version?
[12:36] <sword-> hehe
[12:36] <sword-> i was having a little problem :)
[12:36] <sword-> but i resolved it
[12:36] <raphink> sword-: I told you your xorg version is very normal, there's nothing special about it
[12:36] <raphink> good
[12:49] <Fuzzy76> argh..... links from thunderbird still opens in konqueror here :(
[01:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> everybody is downloading with torrent files.. somebody can give me an example?
[01:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i never found anything really to download using torrents.. :(
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> Tallia1Kubuntu: anything.
[01:01] <LeeJunFan> Tallia1Kubuntu: I've downloaded countless distro's with torrent. you can search for anything at thepiratebay.org
[01:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to download fast*
[01:01] <Fuzzy76> Does anyone here use Mozilla Thunderbird and Firefox in combination and got them to behave out-of-the-box in Kubuntu?
[01:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what do you use to download then?
[01:02] <LeeJunFan> Tallia1Kubuntu: ktorrent
[01:02] <LeeJunFan> Tallia1Kubuntu: torrent isn't always fast, in fact I've found it's hardly ever "fast", but I guess fast is a relative term too.
[01:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :P did you link firefox to ktorrent?
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> Tallia1Kubuntu: I haven't. I use konqueror most of the time.
[01:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh really?
[01:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> do you use konqueror for EVERYTHING?
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> Tallia1Kubuntu: pretty much.
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> Tallia1Kubuntu: unless I find a site that won't play well with it, then I switch to konqueror. I also have IE on wine "just in case", sometimes my job depends on me being able to access a site which only works with IE.
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> Disgusting as that is to me.
[01:08] <LeeJunFan> switch to firefox I mean.
[01:15] <reiki> last night I installed Kubuntu (flight 7) into a VM . I let it get the 184 updates. It was using a 2.6.15-21 kernel yet the headers available using adept were 2.6.15-22. Did I make a mistake somewhere?
[01:16] <MasterEvilAce> i enabled universe and multiverse stuff in adept, and I can't find libxine-extracodecs, nor WINE.. some sites say it should be there
[01:16] <MasterEvilAce> reiki: same for me
[01:16] <reiki> MasterEvilAce, well... for me that means I can't install the vmware tools :)
[01:17] <Fuzzy76> Anyone here know the name for the mail counterpart of x-www-browser?
[01:18] <reiki> have to get ready to go to work...
[01:45] <livingdaylight> Hi, is Opera better supported in KDE? i was told because of qt<something>
[01:46] <Skrot> Better than what?
[01:46] <livingdaylight> bettan than gnome
[01:47] <livingdaylight> i hear that mplayer with gtk doesn't work in Opera or something like that, ring a bell?
[01:47] <livingdaylight> Skrot: ?
[01:47] <khaije> what does the '#' prefix, as opposed to the '##' prefix signify?
[01:47] <Skrot> uhm, no, not really. But I've used Opera with mplayer support in KDE before
[01:47] <Skrot> A couple of years ago though. I use konqueror now :)
[01:48] <livingdaylight> i see, but the question regarding Opera working better in kde than gnome you don't know?
[01:48] <khaije> with regard to channel names (clarification)
[01:48] <Skrot> livingdaylight: I really doubt it
[01:48] <Skrot> livingdaylight: I would assume functionality to be the same. As opera doesn't use any kde libs
[01:49] <livingdaylight> something to do with Opera being compatible with qt rather than gtk?
[01:49] <livingdaylight> gtk is gnome?
[01:49] <Skrot> Well, yes
[01:49] <Skrot> But Qt is Qt, not KDE
[01:49] <Skrot> As long as you've got Qt installed it should be the same
[01:50] <livingdaylight> would that be a package in repositories?
[01:50] <Skrot> libqt3-mt
[01:50] <Skrot> But you could also download opera static version
[01:50] <livingdaylight> yea, got that
[01:51] <Skrot> livingdaylight: have a look at the opera forums. as far as i remember, opera uses a netscape plugin to get mplayer functionality
[01:51] <livingdaylight> Skrot: yes, thats what they say
[01:52] <Skrot> Well, neither depends on KDE, or use KDE libraries in any way :)
[01:52] <livingdaylight> ok, thx
[01:52] <livingdaylight> do you know kdetv?
[01:52] <Skrot> Never used it. Sounds like a program for watching television and I haven't got a TV-card :)
[01:53] <livingdaylight> ok
[01:55] <klerfayt> can I install kubuntu 6.06 flight 7 with kernel 686 and not 386?
[02:00] <beverett> hello all, ummm i need some assistance!
[02:00] <DjDarkman> hy ,i have a fat32 partition and it has a correct entry in fstab ,but kde-s mountpoint module always disables it and i have to re enable it every time i restart ,what shouls i so?
[02:00] <DjDarkman> *do
[02:01] <beverett> silly question to you all, but i have only been using linux for about 3 hours
[02:01] <Samuli^> DjDarkman, use 'auto' as a option in fstab.
[02:01] <beverett> why can't i enter administrator mode in the settings console?
[02:02] <beverett> asks for a password which i enter, but doesn't actually allow me to change anything
[02:03] <beverett> anyone? i'm really piss poor when it comes to linux, and would really appreciate a hand
[02:10] <klerfayt> Why is konqueror smooth scrolling slower than firefox smooth scrolling?
[02:11] <BlacKSacrificE> your all elitist arseholes
[02:13] <kosh> klerfayt: it is? hmm I had not noticed that
[02:13] <beverett> anyone going to help me with my admin mode problem?
[02:13] <beverett> anyone?
[02:13] <klerfayt> what is your problem with admin?
[02:14] <kosh> klerfayt: on this box I have even tried firefox and konqueror side by side just now and can find no different in scrolling speed
[02:14] <klerfayt> kosh: try fullscreen
[02:15] <klerfayt> kosh: and use mouse scroll wheel
[02:15] <klerfayt> kosh: not scrolling bar
[02:16] <visik7> anyone able to compile vim7 from debian-experimental ?
[02:16] <kosh> ah well fullscreen won't work very well for me, the page pretty much won't scroll if I make it full screen :)
[02:16] <kosh> I have a quad head system full screen would be pretty darn big
[02:16] <klerfayt> kosh:maximize window
[02:16] <kosh> I can make it as large as a monitor and I just did that, I put konqueror on one monitor and firefox at another both at 1600x1200
[02:17] <kosh> no scrolling different in speed and I was using the scroll wheel
[02:17] <klerfayt> kosh: try slashdot.org
[02:17] <klerfayt> kosh: or digg.com
[02:17] <kosh> slashdot is the site I used since I know it is fairy long
[02:17] <klerfayt> kosh: ok then maybe it's my hardware
[02:18] <kosh> I am not getting any speed difference
[02:19] <kosh> klerfayt: I am using ati cards with the free software 2d only drivers
[02:19] <klerfayt> kosh: nvidia 3d drivers
[02:19] <klerfayt> kosh: you know what's weird? I have noticed that "nv" performs better in 2d than "nvidia"
[02:20] <kosh> my next cards will be nvidia
[02:20] <klerfayt> kosh: except then I try to select large area of fails with mouse
[02:20] <kosh> I want two 7900s so I can run quad head aiglx/xgl
[02:21] <klerfayt> kosh: 2 cards is  a waste
[02:21] <klerfayt> kosh: waste of energy
[02:21] <kosh> klerfayt: you need two cards to run 4 monitors
[02:22] <kosh> klerfayt: at least for high resolutions you do
[02:22] <klerfayt> do I have to register to send personal messages?
[02:22] <kosh> register with what?
[02:23] <klerfayt> kosh: how you send personal messages? (in red)
[02:23] <kosh> should just be /msg nick message
[02:24] <klerfayt> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems
[02:25] <kosh> ah I guess you do have to be registered then
[02:25] <kosh> it is simple to do you get instrucitons when you connect to the server
[02:25] <klerfayt> kosh: since I don't use irc that often then I think it's pointless
[02:26] <kosh> ok
[02:26] <kosh> there have been a lot of people spamming people though
[02:26] <kosh> one of them keeps spamming about israel and has been blocked probably thousands of times but they keep using different computers etc
[02:28] <klerfayt> kosh: I got problem  /msg nickserv register <your-password>
[02:28] <klerfayt> kosh: what is "nickserv"?
[02:28] <kosh> nickserv is the nickname service
[02:28] <kosh> it is something like a bot for the entire server that handles that stuff
[02:29] <klerfayt> kosh: what I have to type in there?
[02:29] <klerfayt> kosh: leave it as it is? (nickserv)?
[02:29] <kosh> yeah it needs to be in there
[02:30] <klerfayt> kosh: or it has to be "freenode"?
[02:30] <LathropWells> the first time isn't it   /nick yourname  then  /msg nickserv password yourpassword     ?
[02:31] <klerfayt> kosh: nice
[02:31] <kosh> it should just be /msg nickserv register password
[02:31] <LathropWells> Ah, okay
[02:31] <per> hello
[02:31] <per> how do i make akode the default sound system instead of arts?
[02:32] <kosh> per: akode will be used automaticlaly and it has some kind of connection to arts
[02:33] <jorik> right, im feelin a bit stupid asking this but uhm ... how do you split the screen in konqi ? i searched all thru the menus ... did i miss it ? im not sure, but i think it exists, right ?
[02:33] <per> kosh: well, i couldn't get mp3 to work, but then i switched from arts to akode in juk, and it can play mp3 now...
[02:33] <kosh> hmm no idea on that
[02:33] <kosh> I have not seen that issue before
[02:34] <kosh> jorik: it is under the window menu
[02:34] <per> i installed gstreamer-mad, -ugly and akode2-mpeg
[02:34] <kosh> jorik: which is right next to help, however kubuntu may have disabled that menu, my system is different though I uninstalled the kubuntu kde modifications
[02:37] <LathropWells> Has there been any mention of how canonical will make a business out of K/Ubuntu? Subscriptions for repositories?
[02:38] <kosh> no idea on any of that
[02:38] <LathropWells> Kinda spoiled by the six month revision cycle going to feel odd settling in to a single release (If i have it right.)
[02:39] <Krazy-J> hi
[02:39] <Krazy-J> anyone around?
[02:40] <LathropWells> Anyone tried Mepis? What will they be adding to Kubuntu?
[02:40] <Krazy-J> i just instaleld kubuntu, now it keeps on coming up that my WAP is out of range
[02:41] <Krazy-J> ?
[02:44] <Krazy-J> i just instaleld kubuntu, now it keeps on coming up that my Wireless Access Point is out of range
[02:45] <iNiku> Krazy-J: does the wireless work at all?
[02:45] <Krazy-J> Yep
[02:45] <Krazy-J> Multi boot
[02:45] <Krazy-J> and it works on windows
[02:47] <Krazy-J> :(
[02:49] <Hobbsee> Krazy-J: what does sudo iwlist wlan0 scan say?
[02:49] <Hobbsee> does it show the network?
[02:49] <Krazy-J> Yep
[02:49] <Krazy-J> It does
[02:49] <Krazy-J> But it then comes up with network out of range
[02:49] <Hobbsee> odd.  what's "it"?
[02:49] <klerfayt> in suse 10.0 it was possible to have video thumbnail (like in gnome) then installing kdemultimedia3-xine (or something like that); but kubuntu seems to not have it?
[02:49] <Krazy-J> the sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[02:50] <Hobbsee> very odd.
[02:50] <Krazy-J> in, "Interface eth0 - KWIFIManager"
[02:51] <Krazy-J> when i click on scan for networks
[02:51] <Krazy-J> it finds the network
[02:51] <Krazy-J> but when i sellect it
[02:51] <Krazy-J> it wont add it
[02:51] <Hobbsee> Krazy-J: is that breezy or dapper?
[02:52] <Hobbsee> kwifimanager has never worked.  well, if at all.
[02:52] <Krazy-J> sorry, how would i find out, i'm only new to this :P
[02:54] <Krazy-J> ?
[02:54] <Hobbsee> Krazy-J: cat /etc/issue
[02:55] <Krazy-J> lol
[02:55] <Krazy-J> can someone help me pls :( ?
[02:57] <Blissex> Krazy-J: more details on what your problem is and the context...
[02:59] <Hobbsee> and what the output of "cat /etc/issue" in a konsole is...
[03:26] <icke> :O , my USB HDD works plug n play with kubuntu :O
[03:35] <nah> hello
[03:36] <nah> I have a lil' question
[03:36] <nah> can i setup adept to work with proxy on kubuntu 5.10 ?
[03:36] <DrBair> nah: uh, yes. I believe its an apt setting
[03:37] <nah> it's an http proxy
[03:37] <DrBair> nah: I have the machine at work set to do it but I forgot how
[03:37] <nah> and another one
[03:37] <nah> with what can i split the internet from the kubuntu machine ?
[03:38] <nah> cbq ? or what sqould I use ?
[03:38] <nah> *should ?:)
[03:38] <DrBair> nah: in the /etc/apt/apt.conf file, modify the proxy line like so: Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxy.server.here:8080/";;
[03:39] <DrBair> and what do you mean by split the internet? Simply share it?
[03:40] <nah> yes, I want to share the internet on my laptop
[03:40] <nah> I mean from my laptop
[03:40] <nah> I have 2 nic cards
[03:41] <Samuli^> is firestarter for kubuntu too, or is it just for gnome?
[03:41] <Samuli^> with that it's really easy to share connection
[03:42] <h3sp4wn> Samuli: You only need about 3 lines to just basically share a connection do you not think its a bit of an overkill ?
[03:42] <nah> yes, but I graph. interface :)
[03:43] <Samuli^> h3sp4wn, yeah. but it's easy and "nice"
[03:43] <nah> on my laptop I have kubuntu without XFREE :)
[03:43] <DrBair> nah: you would want iptables in any case... or a graphical frontend to it
[03:43] <nah> yes, iptables should be fine
[03:44] <nah> but the thing is that I don't know how to do it
[03:44] <nah> with iptables I only know how to filter the interface
[03:44] <nah> i donno how to make Nat or that kind of things
[03:45] <mhterres> morning
[03:46] <DrBair> nah: you're going to have to do whats called IP masquerading.  there should be something about it on the forums. If not, google knows all.
[03:46] <DrBair> nah: but as for me, I need to get going to work. Later
[03:48] <nah> oky thx 4 the help
[03:48] <nah> :D
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> nah: all you need to do if its just for one computer is add - post-up /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE to the end of the part about your network card in /etc/network/interfaces and remove the #from the #net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf if you are not bothered about running a dhcp server or caching dns server
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> nah: presuming your ethernetcard is eth0
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> nah: (Interface the interface to the internet is going out on)
[03:59] <nah> thx h3sp4wn
[04:02] <h3sp4wn> nah: If you want to test whether it works without rebooting just run sudo sysctl net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 && /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE - You will need to use a static ip on the machine behind and specify dns servers manually
[04:03] <n3storm> uolas
[04:36] <koroded> I booted dapper after doing a dist-upgrade from breezy, and there's no kde, it goes into X, but no kde
[04:39] <GazzaK> goes into x - as in a login window?
[04:39] <koroded> naw, just into X with an ugly background and one terminal window
[04:39] <GazzaK> koroded, does it boot into anything
[04:40] <koroded> nope
[04:41] <apol> have you tried to run kdm as root?
[04:41] <koroded> yep
[04:41] <apol> and...?
[04:41] <koroded> nothing
[04:42] <apol> what's nothing? :S it has to tell you something...
[04:42] <Chryseus> lhpuuh
[04:42] <Chryseus> oop
[04:51] <VincentMX> yo
[04:51] <GazzaK> beep
[05:12] <klerfayt> what else in addition to flash I need  to see videos in konqueror from www.youtube.com?
[05:13] <Blissex> !restricted
[05:13] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:13] <Blissex> klerfayt: the codecs listed above.
[05:26] <mwiggins> what repository is acroread in? ive got multiverse/universe/ in my sources.list but i dont see acroread in apt-cache search
[05:27] <mwiggins> (running dapper)
[05:27] <mwiggins> i have the acroread-debian-files package but not acroread-*
[05:34] <visik7> mwiggins: check wiki.ubuntu.com/seveasPackages
[05:34] <visik7> or something like that
[05:36] <mwiggins> 'acroread' returns no results when i search on wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:37] <DrBair> I'm getting question marks as the properties for a folder mounted with sshfs-fuse with my normal user. But it shows up OK with root. Any ideas?
[05:38] <dbdkmezz> hey, I've got a problem (I think) with my groups file. my system crashed and some stuff in /etc got corrupted, user related stuff since I'd just added a user. sound and sudo don't work for any users (other than root). when I use sudo it says I'm not in the sudoers file and when I do the groups comman d it says "id: cannot find name for group ID 1000" any ideas?
[05:39] <DrBair> have you run a fsck on the filesystem?
[05:39] <dbdkmezz> yeah, it told me to when I was booting the first time after the crash
[05:40] <DrBair> and the fsck ran without issue?
[05:40] <dbdkmezz> no, I had to say yes to loads of changes
[05:42] <DrBair> well, you can look in the lost+found to see if anything useful was picked up there
[05:42] <dbdkmezz> good idea, thanks
[05:43] <dbdkmezz> nice one, one of the files looks like a groups file :)
[05:43] <dbdkmezz> thanks. gonna reboot into rescue mode (so I can get root permission) and try copying that over the current groups file :)
[05:47] <Hirs> Hi
[05:48] <Hirs> Has anyone problems with GTK applications on Breezy?
[05:48] <Hirs> sometimes part of the fonts disappear
[05:49] <Hirs> until i highlight them (when possible)
[05:49] <DrBair> Hirs: sounds like a video card driver problem
[05:50] <Hirs> I have tried various GTK engines..
[05:50] <Hirs> DrBair, only with GTK apps?
[05:50] <DrBair> hmm, guess that is kind of weird
[05:51] <Hirs> DrBair I thought it has something to with fontconfig and gtk, but who knows..
[05:53] <Hirs> btw, is there any package for breezy for the latest VLC(0.8.5)?
[06:05] <evert_> hello all
[06:06] <evert_> what's the command for reconfiguring your x server files ? because i f*cked up my x server (can't get in x any more)
[06:08] <urashima> hi, i think it's written at the beginning of the xorg.conf. something like dpkg-...
[06:08] <crimsun> evert_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:08] <urashima> yes, like this
[06:09] <evert_> ok thx , i'll try it out :)
[06:09] <urashima> good luck :D
[06:11] <davidhouse> i'm trying to install a package with adept. it says the status is BREAK (install). how can i find out what it breaks?
[06:16] <GazzaK> Distro: Ubuntu 6.06 | Kernel: 2.6.15-22-386 | Processor: 598.06Mhz Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.80GHz | Mem [Free/Total] : 726MB/1011MB []  | Disk: Total: 27.00GB Free: 22.00GB 81% | Video: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]  (rev 01) 1680x1050 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 153.06MB Up: 35.65MB
[06:23] <visik7> davidhouse: apt-get is more verbose
[06:25] <davidhouse> visik7: got it, thanks.
[06:31] <uros> hi all. could someone recommend a good program for editing mp3 tags
[06:34] <rysiek|pl> uros: amaroK? :)
[06:34] <ccc_> uros: i tag a lot of mp3s... i use amarok
[06:34] <evert> thx guys , your help was really helpfull .. because of you i'm back in linux :)
[06:35] <uros> not really happy with amarok - seems time consuming (difficult to tag many files at once)
[06:36] <TrueChaos99> He guys, Im trying to play a wmv file, and all im able to get is sound -- tryed mplayer, xine, and vlc, all with the same result.
[06:36] <ccc_> tagging is a lot better in amarok 1.4 than 1.3.x
[06:36] <TrueChaos99> any ideas?
[06:37] <ccc_> everything is a lot better in 1.4, actually :)
[06:38] <uros> ccc: how difficult is it to upgrade to 1.4 - just the gstreamer and amarok or would i have to go to dapper?
[06:39] <ccc_> uros: here's breezy packages for 1.4 beta2: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/1.4_for_Kubuntu_5.10
[06:40] <evert> what's the most easy way to get wmv's played in dapper drake ? (and other restricted formats ?)
[06:40] <uros> ccc: thnx
[06:41] <ccc_> dunno about gstreamer though, i use xine.
[06:48] <ccc_> uros: the new tagging features in 1.4 aren't very obvious though. but for example, it does iterative track number assignment via the playlist
[06:48] <ccc_> which is really handy
[06:48] <urashima> hi all, i have a strange problem with breezy :S. I have nearly 100 mb free on the home partition after booting. but since i log onto kde it goes slowly down until i have no free space. does anyone knows why it happens? a bug?
[06:55] <tim> Everytime, I try to play a movie preview off the internet with Konqueror, it crashes.
[06:56] <rysiek|pl> tim: use, the Fox, luke
[06:59] <tim> what is that
[07:00] <ahmeni|zzz> tim: which plugin are you using to watch the movie?
[07:01] <Hirs> I use kmplayer plugin for embedded videos on konqueror, works fine...
[07:01] <evert> hello how can i play avi's ?
[07:01] <evert> i installed xine and w32 codecs
[07:02] <Hirs> evert install xine-extracodecs
[07:02] <Hirs> ot something similar
[07:03] <evert> i don't find something like xine-extra codecs with adept ?
[07:03] <evert> all repo's are enabled
[07:10] <tim> gstreamer0.10-pitdll and libxine-extracodecs
[07:13] <uros> ccc: the taging doesn't seem much better but i like the player :) (lastfm magically started working and it even plays 1 mp3 file, which 1.3.x didn't)
[07:15] <evert> i really can't find the xine extracodecs ?
[07:15] <hastesaver> evert, mplayer?
[07:15] <evert> how can i install mplayer ?
[07:15] <hastesaver> !mplayer
[07:15] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:16] <hastesaver> evert, although Xine should be able to play it as well...
[07:16] <evert> i'll try the mplayer
[07:16] <evert> i'm getting an error when installing the mplayer
[07:16] <evert> Pakket mplayer is niet beschikbaar, hoewel er naar verwezen wordt door
[07:16] <evert> een ander pakket. Mogelijk betekent dit dat het pakket ontbreekt,
[07:16] <evert> verouderd is, of enkel beschikbaar is van een andere bron
[07:16] <evert> E: Pakket mplayer heeft geen installeerbare kandidaat
[07:16] <ccc_> uros: i tag a lot, and i've never used anything better (have tried loads of regular mp3-taggers). a matter of taste... or perhaps finding the features ;)
[07:17] <hastesaver> evert, read that Mplayer-howto page again.. you need to choose the right package. (You're not using Dapper, right?)
[07:18] <evert> i'm using dapper
[07:18] <evert> but doing the sudo apt-get install mplayer gives an error
[07:20] <hastesaver> evert, oh, strange. try mplayer-386 or mplayer-586 nevertheless
[07:20] <evert> then he says that he can't find the package
[07:20] <evert> strange things
[07:21] <koroded> is there a half-decent and easy to use gui firewall app?
[07:21] <hastesaver> !firewall
[07:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[07:21] <koroded> firestarter, that's what I was trying to think of
[07:21] <koroded> thanks
[07:21] <hastesaver> evert, Have you enabled multiverse and universe?
[07:22] <evert> I enabled all things possible in adept (it's in dapper)
[07:22] <hastesaver> evert, paste your sources.list to pastebin
[07:23] <evert> where can i find the sources list and where is the pastebin ?
[07:23] <evert> sry i'm new to all this :)
[07:23] <hastesaver> evert, oh, that's alright :)
[07:23] <hastesaver> evert, sources.list is /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <hastesaver> evert, and for pastebin, read the topic
[07:24] <koroded> (needed something boss-friendly)
[07:25] <hastesaver> koroded, you could also try telling him/her that "Linux doesn't need a firewall" ;-)
[07:25] <evert> this is my pastebin
[07:25] <evert> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/719096
[07:27] <hastesaver> evert, it appears that multiverse is not enabled...
[07:28] <evert> how can i enable it then ?
[07:28] <evert> :s
[07:30] <hastesaver> !multiverse
[07:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:30] <koroded> hastesaver: :D
[07:32] <evert> i added them all
[07:32] <hastesaver> evert, so try getting the package mplayer again
[07:32] <evert> ok
[07:33] <evert> still the same error ,
[07:33] <evert> and i still can't find the extra codecs for xine :s
[07:33] <evert> is a 'full upgrade' nescessery ?
[07:34] <hastesaver> evert, yes, go ahead, what's the trouble? It's always a good idea to upgrade whenever possible (you'll mainly get security updates)
[07:34] <evert> i'll do it
[07:36] <wasp_ems> i have put kasbar on my desktop but when i open a window it does not cover it..is there any way i can make windows cover it when maximised
[07:36] <wasp_ems> ?
[07:39] <tchize> Hi there
[07:39] <tchize> Can someone tell me how to active password on kde when comp goes in suspend mode and activate auto wifi reconnect?
[07:40] <tchize> if for an ibook sleep mode
[07:40] <tchize> thanks
[07:41] <hastesaver> tchize, isn't it your user password?
[07:42] <tchize> hastesaver: i mean how to have kde request the user password when resuming from sleep
[07:42] <tchize> currently if someone steal my comp he just have to open it to use it :)
[07:43] <hastesaver> tchize, oh, I don't know... look in the screensaver options. Also, you can 'lock screen', but that isn't the same thing
[07:43] <joscha_> you can switch it on in kpowersave configuration
[07:43] <tchize> ok
[07:44] <joscha_> i have in in german, so i can't tell you the exact menu-entrys
[07:44] <tchize> joscha_ : sorry but where is kpowersave configuration? I don't see it in kde settings
[07:44] <Dinofly> tchize: you have to install it first
[07:44] <joscha_> its the powercoord-symbol in systray
[07:44] <tchize> ha ok
[07:45] <tchize> i take a look in adept so :)
[07:45] <joscha_> (yes and you have to use powersaved/kpowersave)
[07:45] <evert> i did the update , but i still can't look .avi's (i know i did it in suse)
[07:45] <evert> and i can't find the xine-extracodec with apt
[07:45] <hastesaver> evert, what happened when you tried to install mplayer agin?
[07:45] <tchize> evert: i noticed with breezy badger that all required decoding libs get installed along with vlc :)
[07:46] <evert> same error
[07:46] <tchize> so i did install vls, and wow, kaffeine was working great :)
[07:47] <evert> i'll try it
[07:47] <hastesaver> evert, you can try that. Also, I think multiverse *still* isn't enabled on your system.
[07:47] <tchize> vlc (sorry for my typo)
[07:47] <evert> i need to show my sources.list again ?
[07:48] <evert> *btw i'm very happy you are helping me :) otherwise i was looking my dvd's back again in windows :p
[07:48] <tchize> for me on breezy, universe was good enough :) no need for mutliverse as far as i know to get lots of codecs
[07:48] <tchize>  i was looking my dvd's back again in windows :p <-- You foolish :p
[07:49] <evert> SO HAPPY it works with the VLC player :) :)
[07:49] <evert> can i also see *.wmv's with that vlc thing ?
[07:49] <evert> thanks for the help :)
[07:49] <tchize> you can with kaffeine
[07:49] <tchize> and kaffeine will use the vlc libs
[07:50] <evert> ok
[07:50] <evert> really thx
[07:50] <evert> bad news for you , i've got another problem with my dapper :p
[07:51] <evert> When I install nvidia drivers , i can't get in X any more (i folowed the wike , tryed more than one thing ....) then i have to set the nvidia back to 'nv' in the xorg.conf
[07:52] <hastesaver> evert, um, it's better to ask Dapper problems in #ubuntu+1 (It may be something specific to Dapper)
[07:53] <evert> no , i had the same problem with breezy
[07:53] <wasp_ems> i have downloaded firefox 1.5..how do i install it?
[07:53] <evert> it's not specific for dapper , and in suse it worked fine
[07:53] <wasp_ems> i browse to the directory and what do i do then?
[07:53] <hastesaver> !tell wasp_ems about firefox1.5
[07:54] <kronoz> i'm trying to make a symlink from /home/kronoz/music to a mounted reiserfs harddrive, /media/hda6/kronoz/music, using the command ln -sf music /media/hda6/kronoz/music, is this correct? it isn't working
[07:54] <wasp_ems> thanx
[07:54] <hastesaver> wasp_ems, don't use the download method, read the link ubotu sent you
[07:54] <kronoz> is there a k-app for symlinking?
[07:54] <hastesaver> kronoz, "ln -s <file to be linked> <path at which you want the link>"
[07:55] <hastesaver> kronoz, you probably just have to put a dot at the end :)
[07:55] <DuDReNoV> Hey what made you guys choose KDE over gnome?
[07:55] <DuDReNoV> And any of you guys looked in to open SUSE?
[07:56] <kronoz> DuDReNoV: i have a dual boot suse 10.1 and kubuntu dapper 6.06 beta 2
[07:56] <hastesaver> DuDReNoV, It's easier to do advanced things in KDE than in Gnome :)
[07:56] <kronoz> i like ubuntu's gnome but not suse's
[07:57] <DuDReNoV> Define: Advnaced
[07:57] <DuDReNoV> Advanced like what?
[07:57] <kronoz> kubuntu doesn't have all the kde helper apps though
[07:58] <hastesaver> DuDReNoV, No, I mean I can tweak things better in KDE. I can, for example, specify that any window with Emacs in its title should always be maximised
[07:58] <hastesaver> DuDReNoV, In Gnome, I have to first figure out the syntax of .Xresources (or .Xdefaults?) before I can do that
[07:58] <DuDReNoV> emacs guy eh?
[07:59] <kronoz> what is skim and what does it do?
[08:00] <DuDReNoV> gnome seems more lightwaight but I love the catapult and I'm an emacs guy to so the window specific behaviours are helpful
[08:00] <hastesaver> DuDReNoV, Just an example ;) Can you make your wallpaper be a slide-show in Gnome?
[08:00] <hastesaver> I'm not enough of an advanced user to use Gnome ;-)
[08:00] <DuDReNoV> hastesaver: At home I'm pretty much in emacs only
[08:01] <DuDReNoV> Dont really deal with the guy
[08:02] <DuDReNoV> As far as guy I dont thin k I need a lot of wistles and bells. It's jsut a theoretical question though. I like KDE but I think that I still need to experement with diferent distros and desktop envs
[08:03] <Lynoure> gui, not guy?
[08:03] <DuDReNoV> ya sorry
[08:03] <DuDReNoV> Still have not had coffee so....... :)
[08:04] <DuDReNoV> Any of you guys tryed this out: http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:04] <Lynoure> ..but I do like my guys also without that much bells and whistles =)
[08:04] <DuDReNoV> I kind of wonna try it
[08:04] <hastesaver> I always user either KDE or ratpoison :)
[08:04] <DuDReNoV> what is ratpoison
[08:05] <evert> I have got a little problem .. i can listen to mp3's with VLC player (installed it just for AVI's) but with amarok i can't play mp3's ?
[08:05] <h3sp4wn> install libxine-extracodecs (on dapper maybe on breezy)
[08:05] <DuDReNoV> http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/
[08:05] <Uschebit> DuDReNoV: xgl sure ist eye-candy. You might want to visit #ubuntu-xgl.
[08:06] <DuDReNoV> this thing will suck if it cripples emacs
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> evert: You want to be using amarok-xine
[08:08] <DuDReNoV> so this ratpoison is pretty much emacs os  eh?
[08:08] <hastesaver> Uschebit, what is it then?
[08:09] <hastesaver> DuDReNoV, no, ratpoison is nothing. It's pretty much just bare xinit, but you can run several GUI apps and switch between them, etc :)
[08:09] <DuDReNoV> can you run gnome/kde aps in it?
[08:09] <Uschebit> hastesaver: xgl is a 3d-accelerated desktop.
[08:10] <hastesaver> DuDReNoV, yes. (But it's pretty much a joke, really)
[08:10] <DuDReNoV> ahum
[08:10] <evert> i'm using amarok , with xine as engine
[08:11] <evert> and i can't find the xine extra codecs with adept
[08:12] <DuDReNoV> http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/screenshot.html
[08:12] <munzir> Hi, kwallet is not working properly in dapper I guess. File -> New wallet gives no response. I am missing something?
[08:12] <DuDReNoV> this lokos cool
[08:12] <DuDReNoV> looks
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> evert: have you enabled multiverse ?
[08:12] <evert> yes i have
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> evert: try installing akode-mpeg (libxine-extracodecs is only in dapper)
[08:14] <evert> i have dapper
[08:15] <hastesaver> evert, are you *sure*? If it says "package mplayer not found", it probably means muitiverse is not enabled... pastebin your sources.list again
[08:15] <evert> lib akode2-mpeg is already installe
[08:15] <evert> d
[08:15] <evert> i'll paste my sources.bin again
[08:16] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[08:16] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-586
[08:16] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3526 kB, Installed size: 7940 kB
[08:16] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: mplayer as a name is not the package name
[08:16] <hastesaver> thoreauputic, it is for dapper (at least, that's what the wiki says)
[08:17] <thoreauputic> hastesaver: ah - OK :)
[08:17] <munzir> !info ttf-kacst
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> evert: You need libxineextracodecs from multiverse (for amarok)
[08:17] <ubotu> ttf-kacst: (KACST free TrueType Arabic fonts), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.5-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 632 kB, Installed size: 1324 kB
[08:17] <ubuntu> how do I sudo apt-get on KDE?
[08:17] <munzir> !info ttf-arabeyes
[08:17] <ubotu> ttf-arabeyes: (Arabeyes GPL TrueType Arabic fonts), section x11, is optional. Version: 1.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2370 kB, Installed size: 5336 kB
[08:17] <evert> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/719220
[08:18] <evert> strange ,  i just added some more repo's but they are gone ? ?
[08:18] <munzir> vbgunz: sudo apt-get too
[08:18] <Uschebit> vbgunz: What exactly do you mean?
[08:18] <munzir> vbgunz: command lines  shouldn't differ whether kde or gnome
[08:19] <vbgunz> I haven't tried apt-get..
[08:19] <vbgunz> I see adept but I don't know how to use it or I am getting no hits
[08:19] <munzir> Hi, kwallet is not working properly in dapper I guess. File -> New wallet gives no response. I am missing something?
[08:20] <Uschebit> vbgunz: Usually you simply open a terminal ("konsole") and type ahead.
[08:20] <vbgunz> Uschebit: how do I add repositories? I am trying to download kdevelop and kodos
[08:21] <Uschebit> vbgunz: To add repositories, you edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:21] <vbgunz> oh
[08:21] <vbgunz> heh, that is old school
[08:21] <vbgunz> ok
[08:21] <Uschebit> vbgunz: After adding them, you run "apt-get update" and ich that finishes ok you type "apt-get install whateverthename"
[08:22] <vbgunz> Uschebit: ok will let you know how it goes!
[08:22] <Uschebit> vbgunz: Good luck!
[08:22] <Uschebit> s/ich/if/
[08:23] <vbgunz> Uschebit: one more thing. On ubuntu its easy to open a file with gedit doing this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ... I try it with kate but kate don't open... is there a trick for kate?
[08:23] <milian> afaik kate does not like sudo that much
[08:23] <milian> use kwrite instead
[08:23] <vbgunz> kwrite
[08:23] <Uschebit> vbgunz: Sorry, I don't know. I'm one of those pesky vim-users...
[08:23] <vbgunz> ok, will try
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> does kate not even like kdesu ?
[08:24] <milian> dunno
[08:29] <vbgunz> I must be missing repositories... I can't find kdevelop and kodos cannot install as it is missing one dependency
[08:29] <hastesaver> vbgunz, it's not a good idea to start GUI apps with sudo
[08:29] <gringo> anybody knows a desklet-like app for google calendar?
[08:30] <hastesaver> vbgunz, try gksu or kdesu or gksudo or ... (whichever applies)
[08:31] <Uschebit> vbgunz: Or you might try a console-editor like joe, namo or pico.
[08:31] <xwolf-> xchat and firefox are looking too dark, how do i lighten their background's color?
[08:31] <vbgunz> I usually use Gnome. I decided to try out KDE because I think I am out growing Gnome. So far, for some reason, KDE is extremely fast compared to Gnome. I am beginning to like the options I think are missing in Gnome... heh, KDE seems good so far!
[08:31] <Uschebit> nano, not namo, sorry
[08:33] <vbgunz> gksu & gksudo seem to be missing on my installation. I am using the May 14th live cd. kdesu is available though...
[08:34] <Uschebit> vbgunz: Rule of thumb: g*-utils aure for Gnome, k*-utils are for KDE
[08:34] <vbgunz> Uschebit: ahh\
[08:36] <vbgunz> man KDE has no tearing which is way cool
[08:43] <thmas> How to display Kopete User Photos?
[08:44] <xwolf-> where, exactly?
[08:46] <Snake__> Anyone here running bon echo?
[08:49] <Snake__> thmas: I think its something in "Identity" not really sure tho, im running .12 which is way diffrent from your version (.11)
[08:52] <thmas> i am using dapper drake, how can i update kopete to .12?
[08:52] <Snake__> thmas: youll need to complie it, give me a moment to link you
[08:52] <Snake__> Please note its still in beta/testing stages, and .11 themes wont work with it
[08:53] <thmas> okay
[08:54] <Snake__> thmas: http://kopete.kde.org/releases.php
[08:54] <Snake__> thmas: get the source for beta 2 (if you want the latest one) or get the package for dapper beta 1
[08:55] <ciga> what's new in .12?
[08:55] <Snake__> ciga: check the release notes, a lot
[08:56] <thmas> thanks Snake__
[08:57] <wasp_ems> hastesaver: i have a problem and i cannot upgrade kde..can u help me?
[08:58] <hastesaver> wasp_ems, not sure, but I'll try. And so will everyone else, just ask :)
[09:00] <wasp_ems> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14079b this is what i get when i add the repo
[09:00] <tchize> hi again, another problem
[09:00] <wasp_ems> and try to upgrade
[09:01] <tchize> i have sound in kde but not in amarok :(
[09:01] <evert_> hello
[09:03] <evert_> I installed the nvidia drivers , but again it failed , i couldn't get in x any more :(
[09:03] <wasp_ems> hastesaver: what do u think?
[09:04] <hastesaver> wasp_ems, did you try just continuing (ignoring that message)?
[09:04] <wasp_ems> hastesaver: that is only what comes up..no upgrade takes place
[09:06] <hastesaver> wasp_ems, is this upgrade or dist-upgrade ?
[09:06] <wasp_ems> upgrade
[09:06] <kronoz> !w32codec
[09:07] <hastesaver> wasp_ems, try dist-upgrade then
[09:07] <evert_> Is it possible to play wma's with amarok ?
[09:07] <wasp_ems> hastesaver: the same problem
[09:09] <hastesaver> wasp_ems, I don't know this very well, but what's the problem? It says it won't upgrade those packages just yet, that's all...
[09:11] <wasp_ems> hastesaver: yes but shoud it not upgrade kde?
[09:12] <hastesaver> wasp_ems, maybe you changed your sources.list and the new versions of those packages are no longer in the repos it sees
[09:12] <wasp_ems> when i add the repo that is needed for kde that error comes up
[09:13] <wasp_ems> anyway nevermind..can u help me at least in why kscd has no sound
[09:13] <hastesaver> wasp_ems, do other apps have sound? (kaffeine/totem/mplayer/xine/vlc/xmms/whatever)
[09:13] <evert_> is there a program for linu like 'win amp off' to shutdown your pc autoamticallay at an hour you wants ?
[09:14] <wasp_ems> hastesaver: yes
[09:15] <hastesaver> wasp_ems, oh, then I don't know... look in the kscd options, maybe the volume is turned down, something... :)
[09:16] <wasp_ems> ok can u tell me where i can get xine from?
[09:19] <hastesaver> wasp_ems, xine is in the repos.
[09:19] <wasp_ems> i used to be able to find xine,wine etc in adept now i cannot..why is that..i just re installed kubuntu..are there any repos i need
[09:19] <xwolf-> wasp_ems universe and multiverse
[09:19] <wasp_ems> where can i get the multiverse repos
[09:20] <hastesaver> !repos
[09:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:21] <menno> q
[09:29] <wasp_ems> ok does anyone know how i can make k3b to be able to write from network resources...cause i get an error it can only use local files
[09:29] <dergringo> !mp3
[09:29] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:31] <wasp_ems> anyone?
[09:33] <wasp_ems> anyone know how to use kasbar??
[09:34] <evert_> back
[09:34] <evert_> but i forgot to save the xorg.conf :D
[09:34] <evert_> :P
[09:34] <wasp_ems> anyone know how i can make windows go over kasbar?
[09:36] <nico8481> hi
[09:38] <Fri13> Hi! I get error installing grub on kubuntu install
[09:38] <h3sp4wn> Fri13: Live / install or both ?
[09:38] <evert> ok i'm back
[09:38] <evert> it failed :(
[09:39] <Fri13> h3sp4wn, i now downloaded install CD
[09:39] <Fri13> and my install is almoust finished, only grub need to be installed.
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> Fri13: But it still fails ?
[09:39] <Fri13> But when im tryingin to install it to /dev/hdc2 what is /boot, it fails. It cant install itself to mbr either.
[09:40] <Fri13> h3sp4wn, yes.
[09:40] <nox-Hand> Hi
[09:40] <Fri13> i have tryed to install it to /dev/hdc and every other partition but it fails.
[09:40] <nox-Hand> I want Entrance login manager to start instead of KDM. How would I do this?
[09:40] <nox-Hand> As Entrance needs an X server running, so I don't know how to add it to default runlevel..
[09:40] <Fri13> and i tryed install LILO but it fails too
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> Fri13: install it to fd0
[09:41] <Fri13> fd0 is floppydrive?
[09:41] <Fri13> I dont have any :-P
[09:41] <xwolf-> think he meant hd0...
[09:42] <Fri13> I dont wanna get it to MBR, it brakes whole system. My system cant boot from MBR after a while. Dont know why.
[09:42] <Fri13> That's why i have that /boot partition what i have used every other distros.
[09:43] <Fri13> Now on install i formated suse and it had lilo on /boot.
[09:43] <Fri13> And only difference is that on suse my /boot was /dev/hdg2 and on kubuntu it is /dev/hdc2
[09:45] <ltibor65> Hi guys! How can I set hungarian keyboard in kubuntu under Dapper?
[09:45] <Fri13> I have checked that /boot really is /dev/hdc2 by going back to partition part of install. Do i need to restart whole install again?
[09:45] <Fri13> ltibor65, on KDE or Gnome or other?
[09:46] <ltibor65> KDE
[09:46] <Fri13> ltibor65, go to kcontrol and from there language and region. There select right keyboard layout
[09:46] <xwolf-> ltibor65 ever tried 'settings:/' on konqueror? remove the ' '
[09:46] <h3sp4wn> Fri13: So your bios is set to boot off the 3rd drive ?
[09:47] <Fri13> h3sp4wn, i have 2 drives and one DVD drive. hde is my second master and hdc is my first slave. I dont have any others anymore. I did have first master but it did broke down and i didnt change cables places.
[09:48] <Fri13> so it will boot from second drive.
[09:48] <Fri13> or was that really second master so 3rd :-P
[09:48] <DaSkreech> Is there a way to grab a window and throw it onto the next desktop?
[09:49] <h3sp4wn> Fri13: If the bios is modifying the drive to appear as the first you still need to install it to hd0
[09:49] <Fri13> h3sp4wn, but why then dapper reconize it as hdc?
[09:49] <Fri13> if i try that hd0 do i then install it to hd0,2 or hd0,1 ?
[09:49] <h3sp4wn> Fri13: grub uses a different labelling scheme
[09:50] <Fri13> it is my second partition.
[09:50] <Fri13> h3sp4wn, so info what grub gives on that place is wrong?
[09:50] <Fri13> like it says that i can install it with hdn,m or with /dev/hdX#
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> Fri13: I have grub installed to hd0 (even though my drive that I am running off is hdb)
[09:51] <Fri13> Ok, im going to try that... -->
[09:51] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+F<num> does a selection for a desktop right?
[09:52] <h3sp4wn> Fri13: Or just move the drive to be on hda (other cable)
[09:54] <h3sp4wn> Fri13: It could be your bios attempting to swap the dvd and hardisk round (because its not in the normal configuration)
[09:55] <crimsun> h3sp4wn: I'm working on ice1712/* fixes, hopefully will have something for you to test later this week.
[09:58] <Fri13> h3sp4wn, dapper grub installer cant find any my hard-drives.
[09:58] <Fri13> I tryed all /dev/ drives with letters and numbers from a-f 1-11 and (hd0-4,1-11)
[09:59] <Fri13> I think that instlaler is badly broken because i cant even continue without installing grub or lilo. When i select that "Continue without bootloader".
[10:00] <Fri13> And when im tryingin install LILO it just gives error that there was error.
[10:00] <Fri13> Then i tryed to use console and it told that all drives are mounted to /extra (or what that was) and it's empty
[10:02] <Fri13> Oh well... i'm going back to try installing kubuntu. Fourth time now..... why kubuntu cant use lilo and not that buggy grub :-/
[10:05] <vbgunz> I would really like to give Kubuntu a shot. I am really enjoying it but cannot find an easy way to add repositories that will allow me to get kdevelop and kodos
[10:05] <DaSkreech> Hmm?
[10:05] <koroded> vbgunz: there's something called source-o-matic, have a look at that
[10:05] <koroded> google it, first hit is the right one
[10:06] <vbgunz> I am using the live cd and am trying to test kdevelop and kodos...
[10:06] <EvilIdler> No problems getting kdevelop3 here
[10:06] <DaSkreech> In universe
[10:06] <EvilIdler> Just add universe and multiverse, then there's barely anything you can't get :)
[10:06] <h3sp4wn> crimson: Thats good, Is there any plans for a low latency patched kernel - there is too many updates to it at the moment for me to bother applying them myself
[10:06] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get windows3.1
[10:07] <EvilIdler> DaSkreech: Is that shorthand for fdisking and removing all partitions? :)
[10:07] <vbgunz> EvilIdler: how do I enable those? I looked into my source.list and uncommented everything but I still can't apt-get kdevelop3 or anything else :(
[10:07] <h3sp4wn> Fri: Swap the ide cables over for the dvd drive and the harddrive
[10:08] <h3sp4wn> Fri: Presuming the dvd is hda
[10:08] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: are you using adept?
[10:08] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: You can simply add the words universe and multiverse after the other words in sources.list
[10:08] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: Looking at mine to give you a proper example
[10:08] <DaSkreech> EvilIdler: Does that actually work?
[10:09] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: First line with "deb http://<whatever>", after "main restricted" or whichever ones you have, simply add the two words
[10:09] <EvilIdler> DaSkreech: I don't want to know :P
[10:09] <vbgunz> ok will look at the source again
[10:10] <EvilIdler> My line is "deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse"
[10:10] <EvilIdler> I've also got breezy-updates, breezy-backports and breezy-security on separate lines, although I'm not sure how many are actually useful ;)
[10:11] <EvilIdler> I've got a slight problem with CDs and DVDs automounting here myself. Whenever I stick a disc in, konqueror pops up. I want it to stop.
[10:11] <EvilIdler> Plus the tray keeps closing on its own
[10:12] <EvilIdler> Makes it awfully hard to just pop in a disc and start Xine when a crapload of windows might open over it :/
[10:13] <diiiego> bonsuar
[10:13] <EvilIdler> Setting "kcontrol->KDE Performance->Maximum number of instances to keep preloaded" to 0 used to fix the tray closing, but not anymore :/
[10:15] <crimsun> h3sp4wn: not for dapper, no.
[10:15] <ciruzzo> hi all
[10:15] <ciruzzo> I have a hp deskjet 990 cxi printer but under ubuntu it doesnt work. who can help me to solve this problem?
[10:15] <EvilIdler> Switching off the KDE media manager made no difference, either. Konqueror insists on opening a gigantic, blank window
[10:16] <hugelmopf> ciruzzo: how did you try to install it and what didn't work?
[10:16] <ciruzzo> hugelmopf, my printer is not listed. I'm using hp dekjet 990c drivers
[10:17] <hugelmopf> ciruzzo: ...?
[10:18] <ciruzzo> hugelmopf, when I try to print it seems to start printing but it doent start
[10:18] <ciruzzo> paper remains blocked in the printer
[10:18] <vbgunz> damn... I can get as far as being told the packages are found but will not be installed because of dependencies not being installed :(
[10:19] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: What dependencies is it asking for?
[10:19] <hugelmopf> ciruzzo: ah, ok. are you on breezy or dapper?
[10:19] <ciruzzo> breezy
[10:19] <vbgunz> kodos: kodos: Depends: python-qt3 but it is not installable
[10:19] <vbgunz> kdevelop3 depends on 3 items
[10:19] <nads> hi guys... can anyone please help me install a custom (Colemak) keyboard layout? I tried going through some tutorials but with no luck//
[10:19] <diiiego> e
[10:20] <diiiego> dove mi registro?
[10:20] <ciruzzo> hugelmopf, im running with breezy
[10:20] <vbgunz> EvilIdler: kodos depends on python-qt3
[10:21] <ciruzzo> hugelmopf, ???
[10:21] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: I just installed python-qt3 from my local repository
[10:21] <nads> or at least does anyone know how i add a keyboard layout file to the Keyboard Layout manager?
[10:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> diiiego: muahahahah
[10:21] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: Could it be your repository is a bit out of sync?
[10:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> diiiego: bigul, allora ti sei registrato
[10:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> diiiego: you have to register in the irc.freenode.net tab of konversation
[10:21] <vbgunz> EvilIdler: I am using the dapper may 14th live cd. I would have gone to kubuntu+1 but it don't exist :(
[10:22] <ciruzzo> Tallia1Kubuntu, tu mi sai aiutare???
[10:22] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: Ah, Dapper. My nemesis :P
[10:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !register
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[10:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ciruzzo: ??
[10:22] <ciruzzo> sto sbattendo da mesi con sta stampante
[10:22] <ciruzzo> nn mi stampa un cazz0p
[10:22] <hugelmopf> ciruzzo: sorry, had to leave for a minute.
[10:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> che stampante ?
[10:22] <ciruzzo> ho un hp deskjet 990 cxi
[10:22] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: I tried Dapper the other day, but too many things just didn't work..Kubuntu based on 5.10 works fine here, although installation was still weird
[10:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhh, driver per linux?
[10:23] <ciruzzo> e tra parentesi sto sotto gnome nn kde (pero se sai aiutarmi te ne sarei infinitamente grato)
[10:23] <EvilIdler> Now, if I could get Konqueror to stop opening whenever I insert a disc, I'd be happy
[10:23] <ciruzzo> Tallia1Kubuntu, il driver preciso per la mia nn c' in lista e sto usando quelli per la 990c
[10:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> perch non chiedi in ubuntu dove usano gnome e sono anche molto di pi?
[10:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> si, quelli precisi di rado li trovi
[10:23] <ciruzzo> Tallia1Kubuntu, nn rispondono ne su quello inglese ne su quello italiano
[10:23] <hugelmopf> ciruzzo: besides using system settings -- printers, you could also try the cups webinterface for installing/debugging: http://localhost:631
[10:24] <vbgunz> EvilIdler: man I didn't like KDE when I first started out on Linux. Now though I think I seriously outgrew Gnome and am begging for options I seem to only find in KDE :P
[10:24] <ciruzzo> Tallia1Kubuntu, che ha detto questo?
[10:24] <diiiego> oi raga dove mi posso registrare??
[10:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !register
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[10:24] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: Didn't like KDE, either, but switching off fancy Mickey Mouse effects and finding an OK theme made it better :)
[10:24] <diiiego> !register
[10:24] <diiiego> eeeeeeeee
[10:24] <vbgunz> plus kubuntu feels much faster than ubuntu. I would like to seriously try it out for a day
[10:25] <hugelmopf> ciruzzo: but you have to follow /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian before you can actually use the webinterface.
[10:25] <hugelmopf> ciruzzo: good luck with your printer, i have to leave.
[10:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !konqueror
[10:25] <ubotu> from memory, konqueror is the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org
[10:25] <vbgunz> will try source-o-matic
[10:25] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: Well, Kubuntu packages are basically just the desktop on top of Ubuntu. Still sharing a common repository for everything non-KDE
[10:27] <vbgunz> EvilIdler: if you mean I can get KDE apps on Gnome, I understand that. I am trying to use KDE seriously so I can really decide for myself if I really like it. So far, I love the speed and flexibility of KDE but am just having a problem with the repos :(
[10:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !sound
[10:27] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:27] <diiiego> !sound
[10:28] <diiiego> no nada
[10:28] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: I had a long list of problems with Dapper, so it's Breezy for now
[10:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> diiiego: why do you have to repeat the question, since i already gave you the answer?
[10:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !oss
[10:29] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[10:29] <vbgunz> EvilIdler: I've been on Gnome Dapper for a while now. It seems as good as it can get. this is my first honest try out on KDE
[10:31] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: One thing that is a bit problematic is getting Gnome programs to look right on KDE - themes aren't loaded, leaving me with a miniscule font
[10:31] <aseigo> vbgunz: the apt repositories? can you pastebin your sources.list file?
[10:32] <fabs> hello everyone
[10:32] <fabs> I need a little help, I need to download some files from my server via
[10:32] <fabs> FTP, which is the best app for Kubuntu to do so
[10:33] <nads> how do i add a program to be started automatically with kubuntu ?
[10:33] <vbgunz> aseigo: I think I might have it now. I just created a source.list from source-o-matic
[10:33] <xwolf-> nads try session manager.
[10:33] <aseigo> EvilIdler: may need to run gnome-settings-daemon by hand (or in a login script)
[10:33] <vbgunz> holy criznap I might have it :)
[10:34] <nads> xwolf-:  where is it?
[10:34] <aseigo> EvilIdler: gtk+ apps tend not to autostart the daemons they rely on
[10:34] <EvilIdler> aseigo: Cheers, I'll inject that
[10:34] <xwolf-> nads settings:/
[10:34] <vbgunz> source-o-matic I believe did it for me :D
[10:34] <xwolf-> nads then KDE Components
[10:34] <EvilIdler> Hmm..K3B can't find writable media now :/
[10:34] <aseigo> nads: open konqueror.. open the Go menu. select Autostart
[10:34] <fabs> Any good FTP managers for Kubuntu,  guys?
[10:34] <vbgunz> brb
[10:35] <aseigo> nads: right click, new -> application ... or if the application you need supports session management (all good X apps do =) then just start it and when you log out it will be saved as part of your session
[10:35] <aseigo> fabs: depends what you need .. konqi does a pretty nice job of ftp, but if you want something more powerful/complex try kbear
[10:36] <fabs> aseigo: thanks a lot, just need some application that allows me to download some files from my webserver to my local machine via FTP
[10:36] <nads> xwolf-: and in kde components where?
[10:36] <xwolf-> nads Session Manager...
[10:37] <nads> either kde resources or service manager....
[10:37] <nads> those are the two options
[10:38] <fabs> aseigo: trying kbear now, thanks a lot :)
[10:43] <vbgunz> anyboyd here use kdevelop3? I just apt-get installed it then launched it from terminal but am getting this error: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/719455
[10:44] <EvilIdler> Running just fine here
[10:45] <vbgunz> :(
[10:45] <Fri13> What is newest version of kubuntu, 5.10 or 6.06 ?
[10:46] <vbgunz> Fri13: 5.10 is stable. 6.06 is beta to be released on June 1st
[10:46] <Fri13> vbgunz, is there CD version of that beta?
[10:46] <binReapr> hi there
[10:47] <Fri13> because i downloded that DVD version what gets kernel panic everytime when im about to install it, live works fine. I donwloded that CD version and it's so outdated that i cant do anything about it.....
[10:47] <vbgunz> Fri13: I just downloaded the iso from kubuntu downloads
[10:47] <SlimG> does anyone know if i'm supposed to use amd64 or 386 iso to install kubuntu on a AMD Sempron 3000+ (laptop) ?
[10:48] <vbgunz> Fri13: avoid the dvd if you can help it but not if you need the source to kubuntu (I believe)... you only need the iso files that fit on 700MB cd and you should be good
[10:48] <binReapr> ok, if I want thunar in kubuntu, ot the entirexfce4 just thunar and to apply icon themet to it, what I have to download? besides thunar dependencies of course
[10:48] <Fri13> SlimG, Sempron is 32bit so you need use i386
[10:48] <fabs> guys, how can I install Konqi??
[10:48] <binReapr> what manages themes in thunar?
[10:48] <Fri13> fabo, install kdebase package.
[10:48] <Fri13> fabo, kdebase has konqueror.
[10:49] <DaSkreech> I thought he meant the drake :-)
[10:50] <fabs> DaSkreech:  prob :) I need the FTP prog
[10:50] <EvilIdler> Ugh. Anyone else have the problem that K3B increases the writing speed above what you choose?
[10:51] <fabs> So, DaSkreech do you know how to install it?
[10:51] <DaSkreech> fabs: Konqueror?
[10:52] <DaSkreech> kubuntu-desktop?
[10:53] <fabs> DaSkreech: oh right!! Doh silly me, I thought Konqi was the name of an FTP prog... :(
[10:53] <fabs> DaSkreech: aseigo suggested Konqi for basic FTP stuff, I thought it meant a program called Konqi just for FTP...
[10:54] <DaSkreech> Nope Konqueror is very good at FTP
[10:55] <h3sp4wn> Not as good as ncftp
[10:55] <fabs> Cool thanks
[10:55] <fabs> h3sp4wn: is ncftp GUI based>
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> no (but once the very few commands that it requires it is very quick to use)
[10:56] <fabs> thanks.
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> It has tab completion to avoid alot of typing as well - very worthwhile learning to use
[10:56] <fabs> Will do, thanks a lot
[10:57] <vbgunz> EvilIdler: I got kdevelop3 to work just fine... what I had to do was run the following 'kbuildsycoca' in terminal... voila, works :)
[10:57] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: Ah, good :)
[10:57] <Snake__> Riddell: Are you about?
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> fabs: can you already do ftp from dos - cmd in windows ?
[10:58] <fabs> h3sp4wn: uhm no really but trying it now
[10:58] <Poker> hello....i cannot watch dvds with kubuntu....someone have had the same problem?
[10:58] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: Wish I could like it, though - I still use a text editor with syntax highlighting and SCons scripts that I call in an xterm ;)
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> fabs: the main commands you need are cd - change directory put - upload a file get download a file
[10:59] <stevekl> Can you change it so Konqueror doesn't try to open a file if you click on it?
[10:59] <stevekl> It's mega-annoying
[10:59] <fabs> h3sp4wn: how do I log in?
[10:59] <fabs> log in to my server I mean
[11:00] <Riddell> Snake__: hi
[11:00] <h3sp4wn> fabs: ncftp -u username server
[11:00] <Riddell> hi DaSkreech
[11:00] <Snake__> Riddell: How would I donate to the kubuntu project?? I see a link on the ubuntu homepage to donate to that, but I want it to go right to you guys
[11:01] <vbgunz> EvilIdler: I don't use kdevelop3 at all. I figured I would try it out though... it doesn't seem to support Python the way I thought it would with intellisense, etc... I do like kate better I think :P
[11:01] <fabs> h3sp4wn: what about just the pass without uname
[11:01] <Snake__> stevekl: Open system settings: go to Mouse, set it to double click
[11:01] <Riddell> Snake__: just put a note that it's for kubuntu and they'll try and make sure it goes to us
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> fabs: After you put the username in it will ask for the password
[11:01] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: I've been using a non-supported Gtk-based editor for a long time. It's a wonder if I can find it in the repository here, though :P
[11:01] <Snake__> Riddell: Okay
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> fabs: When you exit you can save it if you want
[11:02] <Snake__> Riddell: thanks
[11:02] <fabs> h3sp4wn: great help, will try it now :)
[11:02] <kronoz> !trash
[11:02] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kronoz
[11:02] <Snake__> kronoz: ask a human :)
[11:02] <kronoz> hmm. how do you create a trash icon the desktop?
[11:02] <vbgunz> EvilIdler: I really dislike how KDE apps look like garbage on Gnome and vice versa...
[11:02] <stevekl> Snake__: wow, awesome, thanks!
[11:02] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: One moment, I
[11:02] <Snake__> stevekl: yep :)
[11:03] <kronoz> vbgunz, join the club ;)
[11:03] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: I'll ask someone who might have a solution to that
[11:03] <Snake__> kronoz: thats a good question. :)
[11:03] <Poker> hello....i cannot watch dvds with kubuntu....someone have had the same problem?
[11:03] <Snake__> !dvd
[11:03] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[11:03] <Snake__> Poker: ^^
[11:03] <stevekl> erm how do I actually copy/move files in konqueror?
[11:04] <Poker> ok
[11:04] <Snake__> stevekl: drag+drop?
[11:04] <Poker> tkanks
[11:04] <Snake__> stevekl: cut + paste?
[11:04] <Snake__> lol
[11:04] <h3sp4wn> fabs: you can connect ncftp -u username -p password server also (if you want)
[11:04] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: There's a qt-engine for Gtk+. It'll use your KDE theme in Gnome/Gtk+ applications, with some minor quirks
[11:04] <stevekl> Snake__: well I mean, if I have two locations open in tabs, how do I copy files between them?
[11:04] <stevekl> do I have to detatch one location?
[11:05] <kronoz> cop and paste!
[11:05] <Snake__> stevekl: no you can drag it onto the tab for a moment and it will select that tab
[11:05] <stevekl> oh ok
[11:05] <Snake__> stevekl: drag it onto the tab and hold it there for a second
[11:05] <Snake__> Who asked about the trashcan?
[11:05] <vbgunz> EvilIdler: I tried it. it does not look anything like how KDE apps look in KDE. here they look great. using that qt-engine is wack with a coat :P
[11:05] <Snake__> kronoz: was it you?
[11:06] <kronoz> yeah
[11:06] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: Right, then we're stuck with using programs from just one world, or shades ;)
[11:06] <vbgunz> :)
[11:06] <Snake__> kronoz: right click the desktop, create new --> Link to url. Under file name type "Trashcan" (or bin or whatever) and for URL put "trash:/" (no quotes)
[11:06] <Snake__> Should work
[11:06] <vbgunz> I cannot find how to execute a python script in kdevelop3
[11:07] <kronoz> thanks
[11:07] <Snake__> kronoz: that work?
[11:08] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: The screenshot here doesn't look so bad, though: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=9714&file1=9714-1.jpg&file2=9714-2.png&file3=9714-3.jpg&name=GTK-QT+Theme+Engine
[11:08] <DaSkreech> Hmm What if you made it programs:/
[11:08] <DaSkreech> How many of those does Konqi support?
[11:08] <Snake__> DaSkreech: that works too :)
[11:08] <DaSkreech> camera:/
[11:08] <Snake__> DaSkreech: a lot
[11:08] <DaSkreech> Is there a handydandi list?
[11:09] <Snake__> Not that im aware of :(
[11:09] <Snake__> DaSkreech: my fav is smb:/
[11:10] <GeneralZod> DaSkreech:There is a list, but I can't remember where :) Hang on ...
[11:10] <DaSkreech> yay GeneralZod!
[11:10] <Snake__> w00
[11:11] <Snake__> Man I love linux. I havnt installed anything yet, its came with everything I needed.
[11:11] <Snake__> I removed some programs to slim it some
[11:12] <granda> does anybody probably has the netxmms sources? the server is not available for weeks
[11:12] <vbgunz> EvilIdler: I am not too certain how gtk apps look on KDE but I know the other way around seems hopeless... I had several KDE apps that just didn't look good on Gnome at all no matter what I did...
[11:12] <EvilIdler> vbgunz: Yeah, that direction is probably even worse
[11:13] <kronoz> Snake_: yeh that works
[11:13] <EvilIdler> I'm happy with KDE for now, despite my KDE desktop looking more like Windows than my Windows desktop, which actually looks like Mac OS X ;P
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> vbgunz: If you find a theme that has versions for gtk2 and qt then you are ok
[11:13] <klerfayt> do gtk applications under kde use 96 font dpi?
[11:13] <Snake__> LOL EvilIdler !
[11:13] <Snake__> Nice
[11:15] <vbgunz> my biggest excitement so far about KDE is just three matters. 1.) it flys in comparison to Gnome. 2.) it has advanced options you'll probably never find in Gnome. 3.) for some frigging reason KDE seems to have some great ass apps
[11:16] <vbgunz> I need a break...
[11:16] <vbgunz> brb
[11:16] <Snake__> vbgunz: imho gnomes apps are more stable tho
[11:16] <GeneralZod> DaSkreech:Aha!
[11:17] <GeneralZod> DaSkreech:Load up KinfoCenter, and look in the "Protocols" section.
[11:17] <klerfayt> qtk-qt - does it set font dpi to 96 or use the dpi that kde uses?
[11:17] <kronoz> i think gnome is used by distributors because it is a relativley blank canvas to build a desktop look, feel and app base to what they want to do, while they see this is harder with kde
[11:18] <GeneralZod> kronoz:I'm not sure, as KDE is really hugely configurable.
[11:18] <aseigo> kronoz: not really ...
[11:18] <kronoz> a thing where you could right click an ogg file and convert it to mp3 would be useful, like the thing with images
[11:18] <EvilIdler> Perhaps it's because it's TOO configurable
[11:18] <aseigo> kronoz: the distros that use gnome by default have done so for (at the time of their decisions) largely political reasons
[11:18] <EvilIdler> kronoz: Re-converting between lossy formats isn't recommended, though
[11:19] <GeneralZod> kronoz:The fact that you can write proprietary apps against GTK is a plus for commercial distros.
[11:19] <aseigo> EvilIdler: we asked distros that use kde about that at the OSDL DAM-1 meeting in december and they said it wasn't even an issue
[11:19] <aseigo> GeneralZod: you can write proprietary apps against Qt as well ...
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> You have to pay for qt then though
[11:19] <GeneralZod> aseigo:Oops - I missed off the "without buying a license" bit :)
[11:19] <kronoz> aseigo, but aren't there liscene problems?
[11:19] <aseigo> GeneralZod: and i don't exactly see the commercial distros writing lots of proprietary apps .. isv's, yes they are coming
[11:19] <EvilIdler> aseigo: I've generally got no issues with either desktop
[11:19] <aseigo> GeneralZod: but they don't care about these things
[11:20] <aseigo> GeneralZod: in fact, they tend not to target either desktop at all and just write in/with whatever the hell pleases them ;)
[11:20] <EvilIdler> Roll on, wxUniversal :)
[11:20] <GeneralZod> aseigo:Hehe :)
[11:20] <kronoz> aseigo, do you think ISV's are coming to linux and will make KDE apps? would the portland project help them do that?
[11:20] <aseigo> GeneralZod: it's also interesting that there are orders of magnitude more commercial Qt apps than gtk+_ apps
[11:20] <aseigo> kronoz: that's the whole reason for project portland, yes
[11:21] <GeneralZod> aseigo:That's what I was thinking - Opera being one of the stand-out examples.
[11:21] <aseigo> kronoz: well, not so much to make kde apps, but to make apps that work with kde/gnome w/out targetting them directly
[11:21] <aseigo> kronoz: which is what they tend to do
[11:21] <GeneralZod> aseigo:In Opera's case, I imagine that having a very strong embedded offering from Qt was a major plus for them.
[11:21] <aseigo> GeneralZod: indeed
[11:22] <EvilIdler> GeneralZod: Both living practically next door now might have affected their decisions, too ;)
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> Its obvious why there are more commercial qt apps - because its a cross platform toolkit they can use qt as a choice and then run the apps on windows linux and mac with very little changes
[11:22] <aseigo> for each of the Big Distros that are GNOME supporters there's pretty obvious reasons for it, and none of them are technical and little to do with ISV support
[11:22] <GeneralZod> EvilIdler:True :)
[11:22] <aseigo> h3sp4wn: yep. that and it doesn't make the baby jesus cry when working with it every day
[11:23] <GeneralZod> aseigo:Could you give a few comments about what these reasons are? If you're comfortable with doing so, that is :)
[11:23] <aseigo> EvilIdler: heh.. you know that until recently they were in the same building with opera one floor above tt? =)
[11:23] <aseigo> GeneralZod: sure .. it's not particularly private knowledge
[11:23] <EvilIdler> aseigo: Yep, I live nearby :)
[11:23] <GeneralZod> aseigo:I find the trend towards GNOME very odd, as KDE is much more solid and well-designed technically.
[11:23] <aseigo> EvilIdler: oh? whereat?
[11:24] <EvilIdler> aseigo: Well, sorta nearby. Same city, with a vieq of the fjord :)
[11:24] <EvilIdler> View, even. Damn black keyboards.
[11:24] <aseigo> red hat: picked gnome when Qt was licensed under QPLv1 and invested heavily in it. this resulted in a huge gtk+ investment for them and a lot of people on their staff being gtk+ only. never made much sense for them to change after that
[11:24] <aseigo> EvilIdler: huh.. i was there in october or november...
[11:24] <aseigo> EvilIdler: will be swinging aroudn again in june i thinkm
[11:24] <kronoz> GeneralZod: one GNOME thing I find very annoying is Novell/SuSE's new preference, as there KDE Desktop was and is really good
[11:25] <aseigo> novell: bought ximian and put miguel and nat (co-"founders" of gnome) in top management spots. so no surprise what decisions they've been pushing.
[11:25] <EvilIdler> aseigo: Yeah, we've started importing summers here now..dunno where we exported the snow, though
[11:26] <GeneralZod> kronoz:Yeah, lots of people are saying that SUSE is becoming a shadow of its former self under Novell, and I think quite a few of the SUSE "old guard" have left since the acquisition.
[11:26] <GeneralZod> aseigo:Thanks for the insights :)
[11:26] <aseigo> sun: figured they could step in an influence gnome as a project more easily by simply throwing money and people at it. which is true in a way since we have a far greater community-centered core
[11:26] <aseigo> ubuntu: the guys mark hired to start things were mostly gnome people and it's what he knew primarily at the time
[11:27] <EvilIdler> SuSE becoming SUSE was just one of many signs of the coming apocalypse!
[11:27] <aseigo> lol
[11:28] <EvilIdler> A kernel hacker I know leaving for RedHat was probably the first I noticed, though
[11:29] <kronoz> mark.s's kde keynote looked like he was favoring kde though
[11:29] <GeneralZod> The BSD's seem to be quite behind KDE, too - it's the default desktop for PC-BSD.
[11:29] <aseigo> kronoz: i think it's a bit early to say favouring at this point
[11:30] <aseigo> kronoz: but certainly supportive in a big way... he uses it himself which is cool ... and he's stepping up support for kubuntu within the canonical world... so... yeah, all very postiive
[11:30] <aseigo> GeneralZod: that's because kde is the only desktop that really works well release after release on bsd
[11:30] <aseigo> GeneralZod: thanks to us having a number of developers who use *bsd themselves
[11:31] <GeneralZod> Mark hinted that future hires might draw from the KDE pool, which was one of the most promising things, I think :)
[11:31] <Johncro13> hello room.
[11:31] <kronoz> hello johncro13
[11:31] <GeneralZod> aseigo:Indeed.  I gather a certain chap called Linus has KDE leanings, too ;)
[11:32] <Johncro13> I have an issue and have nowhere else to turn.
[11:32] <kronoz> johncro13, just ask your question :)
[11:32] <Johncro13> I don't know what I did.
[11:32] <GeneralZod> johncro13:Shoot :)
[11:32] <Johncro13> but when my comp boots into Grub, I can see two kernels.  19 and 22.
[11:33] <Johncro13> When I select 22, I get no net access.
[11:33] <Johncro13> I have a wireless card.
[11:33] <GeneralZod> johncro13:Are you running Dapper?
[11:33] <Johncro13> yep.
[11:33] <EvilIdler> Hey, sounds like my Dapper problem. Solutions will help me, too :)
[11:34] <Johncro13> all I need to know is where to go to get a solution.
[11:34] <GeneralZod> 2.6.15-22 is fairly new, I think - bound to be some bugs to be worked out, yet :/
[11:34] <Johncro13> I couldn't find a forum post about it.
[11:34] <kronoz> johncro, which wireless card and what drivers?
[11:34] <GeneralZod> Johncro13:What's your wireless card? Did you need to take special steps to get it working with the old kernel?
[11:34] <Johncro13> um...
[11:35] <GeneralZod> Johncro13:If you boot into 19, do you get net access (I'm assuming yes :))
[11:35] <Johncro13> well, when I installed flight 6, it was recognized immediately.
[11:35] <iNiku> which card?
[11:35] <Johncro13> I think it's a D-link...
[11:35] <Johncro13> I'm checking their site right now.
[11:35] <iNiku> which model?
[11:36] <GeneralZod> Johncro13:Is it USB, PCI or PCMCIA?
[11:36] <iNiku> they have a bunch of different cards
[11:36] <Johncro13> it's PCI.
[11:36] <Johncro13> this is a desktop.
[11:36] <iNiku> and some D-link card revisions with the same model number are based on different chipsets
[11:36] <GeneralZod> Johncro13:I've been having trouble with my PCMCIA under 22 - I sometimes have to pop the thing in and out to get it to work :/
[11:36] <kronoz> iNiku, mainly Ralink
[11:36] <Johncro13> gimme a sec...
[11:36] <iNiku> kronoz: older G630s were atheros
[11:37] <iNiku> G650 is atheros bug G650+ is something else
[11:37] <iNiku> ralink, I think
[11:37] <GeneralZod> Johncro13:If you could post the output of "lspci" (without quotes) into a pastebin, that might help us out :)
[11:37] <iNiku> G630 rev E is ralink, too
[11:37] <iNiku> basically, it's a mess.
[11:37] <Johncro13> Airplus Xtreme.
[11:38] <Johncro13> DWL-G-520, I believe.
[11:39] <iNiku> Johncro13: revision E or earlier?
[11:39] <Johncro13> to do that, I'd need to run that command, copy, paste in text and save on my fat32 drive, then log in to windoze.
[11:39] <Johncro13> it's earlier than E.
[11:39] <iNiku> G520 pre-E is atheros (should be well supported by madwifi)
[11:40] <iNiku> (going by the list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28wireless%29)
[11:40] <Johncro13> it's atheros, alright, but when I did lspci before, (I should have saved it.) I didn't see anything at all about madwifi.
[11:40] <GeneralZod> Johncro13:Ok, that's an awkward problem :/
[11:41] <iNiku> Johncro13: you wouldn't
[11:41] <iNiku> lsmod should show a couple of ath_ modules loaded
[11:41] <Johncro13> I thought not.
[11:41] <DaSkreech> GeneralZod: man... now I'm going to be busy for the next few weeks trying these out
[11:41] <GeneralZod> DaSkreech:Yep - kio_slaves rock my world =D
[11:42] <EvilIdler> When installing Kubuntu (Breezy or Dapper), has anyone reported Grub thinking the root device is /dev/hdeX or similar, despite being on the first IDE chain?
[11:42] <GeneralZod> DaSkreech:fish:// is probablt my favourite.
[11:43] <Johncro13> I'm debating if it's easier to re-install flight 6, or to try and fix this myself.
[11:43] <iNiku> Johncro13: does iwconfig show any wireless interfaces?
[11:43] <Johncro13> nope.
[11:44] <Johncro13> it;s in my devices manager.
[11:44] <iNiku> um, but iwconfig doesn't show it?
[11:44] <Johncro13> can you believe it?
[11:45] <iNiku> not really.
[11:45] <Johncro13> lol.
[11:45] <iNiku> and you say you have no ath modules loaded? lsmod | grep ath shows nothing?
[11:45] <Johncro13> I think I'm going to re-nstall from scratch and try to figure this out again.
[11:45] <GeneralZod> Johncro13:Losing network connectivity is almost as frustrating as losing X :/
[11:45] <Johncro13> I agree, General.
[11:46] <EvilIdler> I can't live without either :/
[11:46] <iNiku> losing wireless is especially frustrating when you're camped out on the couch with the laptop
[11:46] <Johncro13> iNiku, I'm going home to re-install and see if I can't get back into the chat.  I'll try and be back in an hour or so.
[11:46] <GeneralZod> Johncro13:I don't recall - did you say that if you booted back into 19, your wireless worked?
[11:46] <Johncro13> General, yes.
[11:47] <Johncro13> it did...until I tried getting my ATI card working.
[11:47] <iNiku> well, I'm gonna go get some sleep but I'm sure someone else can help you out
[11:47] <GeneralZod> Johncro13:Doh!
[11:47] <Johncro13> mesa issue.
[11:47] <GeneralZod> Johncro13:A re-install might be the path of least resistance after all, I guess :)
[11:48] <GeneralZod> Johncro13:Just don't upgrade your kernel ;)
[11:49] <raphink> hi there
[11:49] <raphink> I'm going to ask for the help of you guys on translations for Dapper
[11:49] <DaSkreech> GeneralZod: I thought you said it was smb:/ ?
[11:49] <raphink> for the language-selector package
[11:49] <raphink> this is what we have so far : http://pastebin.com/719595
[11:49] <raphink> if any of you can add to it in their language
[11:49] <raphink> that'd be more than appreciated
[11:50] <GeneralZod> DaSkreech:No, that was a chap called "Snake_" :)
[11:50] <EvilIdler> raphink: What's this selector? I can probably add another language
[11:50] <DaSkreech> Ah I read too fast :)
[11:50] <Snake__> Whats up?
[11:50] <raphink> EvilIdler: please do
[11:50] <GeneralZod> Snake__:A case of mistaken identity :)
[11:51] <Snake__> np :)
[11:51] <raphink> EvilIdler: if you can post me the translations in private or mail them to raphink@ubuntu.com
[11:52] <EvilIdler> raphink: I'll mail a few lines of Norwegian, then. What is this for, anyway?
[11:52] <DaSkreech> GeneralZod: Fish isn't that useful :-)
[11:52] <raphink> EvilIdler: the program that allows to install more languages in the system
[11:53] <GeneralZod> DaSkreech:It is if you're running sshd :) I use it all the time :p
[11:53] <DaSkreech> GeneralZod: You can't run commands though
[11:54] <GeneralZod> DaSkreech:True, but then, you can't have everything :)
[11:54] <DaSkreech> You can with SSH :)
[11:55] <DaSkreech> It's not at all fishy :-)
[11:55] <GeneralZod> DaSkreech:Hehe
[11:58] <EvilIdler> raphink: OK, sent
[11:58] <raphink> thanks
[11:58] <raphink> :)
[11:58] <klerfayt> what's the best icon theme for kde?
[12:01] <clutt> I downloaded the 5.10 dvd and booted it, but I don't see how to install it on the system..?
[12:02] <GlassCasket> clutt, do you see a Kubuntu menu once you boot?
[12:02] <clutt> ya