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| Burgundavia | figured that might just a major event recently | 09:06 |
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| jsgotangco | lol | 09:07 |
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| mdke | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-May/010876.html | 10:43 |
| mdke | wtf is that | 10:43 |
| mdke | i mean, seriously. | 10:44 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, no, idea, but it is cool | 10:45 |
| Burgundavia | what is DJL license? | 10:45 |
| mdke | cool in that it invalidates our docs 15 days before release | 10:45 |
| Burgundavia | is that the new Java license that Sun was talking about? | 10:45 |
| mdke | that's my favourite type of cool | 10:45 |
| Burgundavia | JavaOne starts today and I think they were planning on some type of announcement | 10:46 |
| mdke | yeah, but feature freeze started 3 months ago | 10:46 |
| Burgundavia | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc-commits/2006-May/002551.html <- add then there is this | 10:46 |
| Burgundavia | what is up with that, honestly | 10:46 |
| mdke | heh, yeah I saw that, nice one | 10:47 |
| Burgundavia | feature freeze does not apply to new packages in multi/universe | 10:47 |
| Burgundavia | my laptop broke, so I am back to my desktop for now | 10:47 |
| Burgundavia | broke as in, the installer broke | 10:47 |
| Burgundavia | I think it is a worth a string freeze to change our docs | 10:47 |
| Burgundavia | with regards to the java stuff | 10:48 |
| mdke | dude, translation freeze is TOMORROW | 10:49 |
| mdke | I find it unlikely that the translators will be able to deal with that | 10:49 |
| jsgotangco | amen | 10:50 |
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| jsgotangco | hey :) | 10:50 |
| jsgotangco | 1 paragraph??? | 10:52 |
| Burgundavia | it does suck that it came this late, but it is very cool | 10:52 |
| jsgotangco | you mean the advocacy page? | 10:52 |
| Burgundavia | no, the java thing | 10:52 |
| jsgotangco | ahhh | 10:52 |
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| Burgundavia | mdke, since we are going to be pissing off our translators with that disks thing, shall we do the java thing at the same time> | 11:02 |
| mdke | Burgundavia: I want to find out what the java thing is, I'm mailing -devel now | 11:03 |
| Burgundavia | well, my cd has ended (I always enjoy beethoven) and it is 2am. I need to sleep | 11:04 |
| Burgundavia | night all | 11:04 |
| mdke | night | 11:05 |
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| poningru | what disk thing? | 11:11 |
| === poningru has yet to get it | ||
| poningru | and is now utterly confused | 11:12 |
| mdke | we're switching between -devel and here a bit | 11:13 |
| poningru | ah | 11:15 |
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| jsgotangco | mdke: i got offered sponsorship | 12:07 |
| mdke | for coming to the conference? nice | 12:09 |
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| rob | s/combind/combine | 12:10 |
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| poningru | mdke: did you find out what the java thing was about? | 12:41 |
| mdke | poningru: not yet. I emailed about it | 12:45 |
| poningru | k | 12:46 |
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| motin | I've got some stuff for Ubuntu documentation. It is work in progress, but will surely be helpful for new Ubuntu user's: http://wiki.motin.eu/HowToComfortablySwitchFromWindowsToUbuntu | 01:40 |
| motin | .. | 01:40 |
| motin | strange. ill try again | 01:40 |
| motin | I've got some stuff for Ubuntu documentation. It is work in progress, but will surely be helpful for new Ubuntu user's: http://wiki.motin.eu/HowToComfortablySwitchFromWindowsToUbuntu | 01:40 |
| rob | we saw it the first time, its written across our screens | 01:47 |
| mdke | motin: if you'd like to consider integrating your work with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwitchingFromWindows that would be great | 01:50 |
| motin | mdke: Hmm haven't seen that one | 01:52 |
| mdke | motin: one preliminary comment is not to link to ubuntuguide.org, it's really out of date. Try to get familiar with our documentation at http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06 | 01:53 |
| mdke | bbl | 01:54 |
| motin | mdke: I'll not put the link out, since it has helped me on Dapper, but I will write a note about it being outdated, and refer to the official documentation instead | 01:55 |
| motin | rob: for some reason onyl half of it was displayed on my screen, so I tried again | 01:55 |
| rob | cool :P | 01:56 |
| motin | mdke: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwitchingFromWindows and my wiki page have totally different goals. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwitchingFromWindows is a great resource, but pecks on details. Mine's plain practical and more suited as an alternative to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwitchingFromWindows. Full integration is not the best way to go here I believe. Rather a link or two in relevant chapters would be a nice way to do it. | 01:59 |
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| mdke | motin: well they both have the same basic aim. I don't see why the specific aims can't be accomodated in the same document. As for ubuntuguide.org, linking to an out of date resource is extremely unhealthy, especially where better documentation exists | 02:11 |
| motin | mdke: Okay i'll remove it. | 02:13 |
| motin | I am integrating some parts of it right now | 02:13 |
| mdke | great | 02:13 |
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| motin | There... updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwitchingFromWindows | 02:32 |
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| jsgotangco | hey jjesse | 02:33 |
| jjesse | hiya jsgotangco | 02:33 |
| jsgotangco | how's it going | 02:33 |
| jjesse | got a killer headache today, probablly leaving work early :( | 02:34 |
| jsgotangco | awww | 02:34 |
| jjesse | dang it, got a note from Jane W saying that Canonical is willing to sponser me to go to the Ubuntu Developer Confrence in Paris, but i'm starting a new job the week before and won't have vacation :( | 02:35 |
| jjesse | dang it :( | 02:35 |
| jsgotangco | jjesse: same here | 02:36 |
| jsgotangco | heh go to Paris so we could meet up! | 02:36 |
| jjesse | i wish i could | 02:36 |
| jsgotangco | why not? dang... | 02:37 |
| jjesse | but new boss probablly won't like it if i say "I need a week of vacation to go to a confrence the week after i start | 02:37 |
| jsgotangco | well yeah, it'll be a hectic week as well | 02:37 |
| jsgotangco | (and being drunk at night) | 02:38 |
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| mdke | mgalvin: any news on release notes? | 03:15 |
| mgalvin | mdke: yea, sorry about that... i was out of commision last week... i already started to work on them this week and should have some stuff to commit shortly | 03:16 |
| mdke | mgalvin: have the developers been doing some too? | 03:16 |
| mgalvin | mdke: not that i know of | 03:17 |
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| mdke | mgalvin: ok. | 03:17 |
| jsgotangco | you wish! | 03:18 |
| mdke | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes ? | 03:18 |
| jsgotangco | i started that | 03:19 |
| jsgotangco | that's from my old BreezyReleaseNotes | 03:19 |
| mdke | it looks as if it has had some work | 03:19 |
| mdke | mgalvin: ^ | 03:19 |
| jsgotangco | yeah its still worth using | 03:20 |
| mgalvin | i have seen it... yea there is certainly stuff there we can use | 03:20 |
| jsgotangco | check BreezyReleaseNotes too on how it was structured, althought the Dapper preview pages are good for release notes too | 03:21 |
| glatzor | hi jsgotangco. | 03:43 |
| glatzor | may i ask you about the state of the g-a-i manual? | 03:43 |
| glatzor | has mvo already merged a later version? should I "fix" the issues myself in my branch? | 03:45 |
| jsgotangco | glatzor: hi | 03:53 |
| jsgotangco | glatzor: i'll have it fixed now, i did plan it to fix before the day ends | 03:54 |
| jsgotangco | glatzor: i did made some minor changes (like your name) but i think mvo wasn't able to merge | 03:54 |
| jsgotangco | glatzor: gimme a few minutes then i'll ping mvo | 03:54 |
| jsgotangco | glatzor: but if you want to make the change, feel free i'll merge from you | 03:55 |
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| tristanbob_ | I just downloaded Flight7, and I see an document with a missing image - Do you want to hear about that here? | 06:29 |
| mdke | tristanbob_: yes | 06:30 |
| tristanbob_ | in the examples, document called "oo-introducing-ubuntu.odt" there is a place-holder for an image of Espresso | 06:32 |
| tristanbob_ | well, Espresso is pretty much done, but no pic | 06:32 |
| mdke | tristanbob_: ok, can you file a bug on example-content? | 06:32 |
| jjesse | do we maintain the example content? | 06:33 |
| tristanbob_ | mdke: yes I can do that | 06:34 |
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| tristanbob_ | mdke: looks like next time I will look at existing bugs BEFORE filing a new one | 06:52 |
| tristanbob_ | I created a bug-report, then saw it already existed, so I marked mine as a duplicate | 06:52 |
| tristanbob_ | ok I have another question related to Espresso | 06:53 |
| tristanbob_ | is Espresso now called Ubiquity? | 06:53 |
| tristanbob_ | and should the docs reflect that? | 06:53 |
| mdke | yes | 06:54 |
| LaserJock | mdke: have you gotten any better info on java than from robitaille? | 07:11 |
| Burgwork | mdke, have you pinged doko | 07:12 |
| Burgwork | ? | 07:12 |
| mdke | yes, I got the info | 07:13 |
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| mdke | nothing to change yet | 07:17 |
| LaserJock | I suprised I hear anything about it | 07:17 |
| LaserJock | I didn't see any Feature Freeze stuff in -motu about it | 07:18 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: thanks for the ESA edits, the LTSP section really flows nicely | 07:21 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, hey, np | 07:24 |
| Burgwork | can I play on Tuesday after work as well? | 07:24 |
| LaserJock | I would think so | 07:26 |
| Burgwork | ok | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | I think cbx33 has been busy with work, etc. | 07:26 |
| Burgwork | I want to cut down the 9 items in difference to 7 | 07:26 |
| Burgwork | plus I need to add one in, about licensing | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | which ones do you want to take out/merge? | 07:27 |
| Burgwork | I haven't really looked at that yet | 07:28 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, I am going to email to edubuntu | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: good idea | 07:30 |
| Burgwork | overall, I really like the structure and the first bit is great | 07:30 |
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| LaserJock | Burgwork: cool | 07:34 |
| LaserJock | I tried to rework it as much as I could with cbx33 | 07:35 |
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| mdke | hi | 11:06 |
| sivang | howdy guys | 11:06 |
| sivang | so, mdke : | 11:07 |
| sivang | Setting up scrollkeeper (0.3.14-11ubuntu1) ... | 11:07 |
| sivang | Rebuilding the database. This may take some time. | 11:07 |
| sivang | I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/common/zh_TW/preface.xml" | 11:07 |
| mdke | what version of ubuntu-docs are you using? | 11:07 |
| sivang | ///usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/serverguide/zh_TW/serverguide.xml:401: element include: XInclude error : could not load /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/common/zh_TW/preface.xml, and no fallback was found | 11:07 |
| mdke | yeah, I saw the paste already | 11:07 |
| mdke | don't worry about the version, I see the bug. | 11:08 |
| mdke | is it preventing you from installing something? | 11:08 |
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| mdke | sivang: is it preventing you from installing something? | 11:13 |
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| sivang | mdke: not that I saw , I just now rebooted after it was requested in my dist-upgrade process, but it seems that SK's db would be inconsistent now or lack this link to the server guide? | 11:18 |
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| mdke | sivang: yes, that's fine. I've fixed it in our repository, it'll be in the next upload | 11:19 |
| sivang | mdke: cool, are you also the packager? | 11:19 |
| mdke | sivang: we all chip in. dholbach uploads | 11:21 |
| mdke | everyone can touch packages in Ubuntu, don't forget | 11:22 |
| sivang | mdke: cool :) | 11:22 |
| sivang | yes, I will not forget | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | essentially anybody with svn access can change the packaging | 11:22 |
| mdke | well, or anyone with upload rights :) | 11:23 |
| LaserJock | main upload rights | 11:23 |
| mdke | yeah | 11:23 |
| sivang | anywyay, laters. I have too many channels open. I need to close some | 11:44 |
| mdke | bye | 11:44 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: free-as-in-beer is cost, right? | 11:57 |
| LaserJock | I'm not a beer drinker so that always confuses me :/ | 11:57 |
| mdke | yeah, although I don't drink much myself | 11:57 |
| Burgwork | yep | 11:57 |
| mdke | i think what that page Burgwork referred to is saying is that you can have commercial software which is open source | 11:58 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: think of it this way: usually there are strings attached when you buy a beer for $random person you find attractive | 11:58 |
| mdke | which is of course a Good Thing | 11:58 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: ok, never done that, but I can understand that :-) | 11:59 |
| crimsun | sorry, I should clarify that to read "...when someone buys you a beer" | 11:59 |
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