| zul | ah.. | 12:05 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 01:19 |
| tritium | morning, ajmitch | 01:20 |
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| zul | evening ajmitch | 01:26 |
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| LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 01:32 |
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| === ajmitch wonders what to work on today | ||
| zul | bugs...squash them to little itty bits | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | mmm | 03:32 |
| === ajmitch looks for some boots | ||
| zul | later | 03:38 |
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| Hobbsee | hi everyone | 06:37 |
| ajmitch | hello | 06:37 |
| Laser_away | hi Hobbsee and ajmitch | 06:38 |
| kgoetz | hi active people | 06:38 |
| ajmitch | hello Laser_away :) | 06:38 |
| Hobbsee | hi Laser_away | 06:38 |
| Laser_away | Hobbsee: I see you had your hands on cdbs | 06:39 |
| Hobbsee | Laser_away: that i did :) | 06:39 |
| ajmitch | soon she'll be going for core-dev | 06:39 |
| === Hobbsee killed it | ||
| Hobbsee | ack! what an idea! | 06:39 |
| Hobbsee | i dont think you'd want me killing the repos... | 06:39 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: and surely i should be going for motu first? | 06:40 |
| ajmitch | it would help | 06:40 |
| === Hobbsee still doesnt think anyone would want her killing the repos. | ||
| ajmitch | we'd expect that you wouldn't | 06:42 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm... | 06:42 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt see why she needs that power - plenty of lovely people who upload stuff for me now :) | ||
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| Laser_away | Hobbsee: the point will come though... you'll find you need MOTUness to get done what you need to get done | 06:47 |
| Hobbsee | true... | 06:48 |
| ajmitch | because it's just useful to be able to work on your own | 06:48 |
| Hobbsee | at some point | 06:48 |
| ajmitch | I could do everything by begging people to upload as well | 06:48 |
| ajmitch | it quickly gets tiring | 06:48 |
| Laser_away | true | 06:48 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:48 |
| Laser_away | and it gets tiring for sponsors too | 06:48 |
| Hobbsee | true | 06:49 |
| ajmitch | we suggest people go for it as soon as they're ready | 06:50 |
| ajmitch | but not too soon | 06:50 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt know enough to have that yet | ||
| ajmitch | that's fine | 06:51 |
| ajmitch | just keep working until you do | 06:51 |
| === Hobbsee nods | ||
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| dholbach | good morning motu world | 09:23 |
| Hobbsee | hi dholbach | 09:23 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: pm? | 09:23 |
| dholbach | hey Hobbsee | 09:24 |
| Mithrandir | hello Daniel | 09:24 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: sure | 09:24 |
| dholbach | hey Tollef! | 09:24 |
| === dholbach hugs Mithrandir | ||
| Mithrandir | 'sup today? | 09:24 |
| Hobbsee | hi Mithrandir | 09:25 |
| === Hobbsee pokes Mithrandir with a big stick | ||
| dholbach | Mithrandir: icons | 09:26 |
| Yagisan | Mithrandir: mr 64bit :) have any howto's or pointers for porting code to amd64/ia64 ? | 09:29 |
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| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: ouch. | 09:36 |
| === Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee back. | ||
| === Hobbsee squeals, and stomps on Mithrandir's toes. | ||
| Mithrandir | Yagisan: "don't store pointers in ints" | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | just you wait till i meet you in person :P | 09:36 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: I think I'll bring some rope and handcuffs then. :-) | 09:37 |
| Hobbsee | heh...so you have a deathwish hey, and a wish to hear hobbsee scream? odd. | 09:37 |
| Mithrandir | I guess I should get some foot irons too, to avoid you stomping my feet. | 09:38 |
| === Mithrandir prefers to walk around barefooted, y'see. | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:38 |
| Hobbsee | because it would hurt oh so much, yes :P | 09:38 |
| Mithrandir | and since you're a girl you'd probably have heels suitable for making holes in my feet and all | 09:39 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt wear heels. at least not stick heals | ||
| === Hobbsee falls over if she does :P | ||
| Mithrandir | ok, so my feet (or at least one of them) will just be of uniform thickness, then. :-P | 09:40 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:40 |
| Mithrandir | ah, so no need for foot irons, I can just get your shoe size and find some high-heeled shoes? | 09:40 |
| Yagisan | Mithrandir: I didn't. unfortunately the codebase I've inherited has. | 09:40 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 09:40 |
| Mithrandir | Yagisan: well, porting to 64 bit is mostly that. Also, don't assume sizeof(int) != sizeof(long). | 09:41 |
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| Toadstool | 'morning motus | 09:43 |
| Hobbsee | hi Toadstool - congratulations on membership, btw | 09:44 |
| === Yagisan starts to cry. This will take forever | ||
| Toadstool | hi Hobbsee, thanks :) | 09:44 |
| Yagisan | approx 336 warnings about pointers and ints :( | 09:45 |
| thesaltydog | if a .deb package build-depends on libgtk2-perl>=1:1.100, how can it be correctly synch'ed in ubuntu, stating that ubuntu's lib doesn't have the epoch 1:? | 09:52 |
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| === StevenK belatedly jumps on Hobbsee. | ||
| === Hobbsee throws StevenK off a cliff in response. | ||
| Hobbsee | ah, pity, you're not in #ubuntu-offtopic | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | interesting stuff happening there? | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | sure, i'm using my pitchfork and flaming torch, along with the rest of my army. | 10:37 |
| ajmitch | ah | 10:37 |
| sivang | morning all | 10:42 |
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| StevenK | Aww, she went away. | 10:51 |
| === StevenK was reading about the all-around fun-loving guy, Sven Luther. | ||
| === ajmitch twitches | ||
| ajmitch | I understand why debian has expulsion procedures now :) | 10:52 |
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| ajmitch | & I'm glad that we have the CC to fall back on here | 10:53 |
| StevenK | However, Sven didn't even up getting kicked out. | 10:54 |
| ajmitch | I know.. | 10:54 |
| StevenK | And oh yes, having the CC as a fallback is a good thing. | 10:54 |
| ajmitch | and so we get endless threads, bugs filed for the tech committee, DPL getting dragged in, etc | 10:55 |
| StevenK | Just wait for the GR. | 10:55 |
| StevenK | Everyone is apparently "on Frans's side." | 10:55 |
| ajmitch | he did *say* he won't go for the GR :) | 10:56 |
| StevenK | I am of the opinion that Sven will say one thing and do another. | 10:56 |
| zakame | hi all | 10:57 |
| zakame | erm wth sven talk here? =P | 10:57 |
| ajmitch | zakame: you're right, we should stop | 10:57 |
| zakame | hehe | 10:58 |
| zakame | with sven and jltallon around, we've plenty of examples _not_ to follow :/ | 10:58 |
| ajmitch | heh | 10:59 |
| StevenK | I have half a mind to send a mail to Sven accusing him of practising dentistry without a license. Only a dentist can hide behind "this won't hit a bit" and then start ripping chunks of your mouth out. | 11:02 |
| ajmitch | don't remind me of that | 11:02 |
| ajmitch | I've got to see a dentist soon | 11:02 |
| StevenK | Heh. Oops. | 11:03 |
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| ajmitch | :) | 11:04 |
| zakame | lol | 11:05 |
| ajmitch | laptops are rather useful - lets me get much closer to the heater | 11:05 |
| === ajmitch notices winter seems to have started | ||
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| StevenK | My Dual Athlon was good during winter. | 11:07 |
| ajmitch | yes, my dual-core system doesn't seem to run nearly hot enough | 11:08 |
| StevenK | Close the door, wait 20 minutes, and the ambient temp in the room was up 5 degrees. | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | not bad | 11:08 |
| StevenK | My little amd64 runs very cool, so doesn't do the same thing. | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | though being up 5C for me would mean it'd be about 15C at best :) | 11:08 |
| StevenK | Heh | 11:09 |
| ajmitch | ok, 8.1C outside, apparantly | 11:09 |
| StevenK | 16C here, according to the weather applet | 11:09 |
| ajmitch | colder than I expected | 11:10 |
| StevenK | Like other people have said, .au doesn't have winter, it just has the absence of summer. | 11:10 |
| ajmitch | I didn't think sydney was meant to get below 20C? :) | 11:11 |
| StevenK | Hah. During winter it will regularly drop to 9C before the sun is up. | 11:11 |
| ajmitch | wow | 11:11 |
| ajmitch | that's really cold ;) | 11:12 |
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| ajmitch | it'll frequently be < 0C here in winter | 11:12 |
| === StevenK kicks ajmitch. | ||
| Mithrandir | 16C is nice and warm. | 11:13 |
| StevenK | No, 26C is nice and warm. | 11:13 |
| ogra | Mithrandir, pfft, thats not even what i call spring here | 11:13 |
| === Mithrandir notes it's around +8C here today. T-shirt and shorts weather. | ||
| StevenK | I'm wearing 3 layers of clothing and it's double that. | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | Mithrandir: you start sweating when it's over 10? | 11:14 |
| Mithrandir | ajmitch: no, not really. Above 25-30, maybe. | 11:15 |
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| Whoopie | Hi, can I somewhere see that a sync with a debian package is requested and what the status is? | 12:37 |
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| tehwaXC | I am having some issues while trying to install libswingwt-java | 01:01 |
| tehwaXC | it is saying that it depends on a package I have installed, but it says that said package is uninstallable | 01:02 |
| tehwaXC | http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libswingwt-java is trying to tell me something, but i am not sure what | 01:02 |
| tehwaXC | the dependant package is libswt-gtk-3.1-java | 01:03 |
| tehwaXC | After further research, the solution appears beyond the scope of an IRC chat. | 01:10 |
| tehwaXC | many thanks | 01:10 |
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| Riddell | dholbach: can you select to use the hicolour icon theme in gnome? | 01:18 |
| dholbach | Riddell: no, but it's standard fallback to everything | 01:18 |
| Riddell | good, thanks | 01:19 |
| dholbach | thanks | 01:19 |
| ajmitch | hi dholbach, Riddell | 01:21 |
| ajmitch | yay, zope2.8 & most of the products should be installable now | 01:23 |
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| zul | heylo | 01:53 |
| ajmitch | hey zul | 01:54 |
| zul | hey ajmitch | 01:56 |
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| freeflying | crimsun: hi | 02:24 |
| crimsun | freeflying: hi | 02:24 |
| freeflying | crimsun: how about the zhcon :) | 02:25 |
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| crimsun | freeflying: I haven't looked yet, been busy, will try to this morning (ETA: 4 hours) | 02:26 |
| freeflying | crimsun: thx | 02:26 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 02:45 |
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| zul | hi Hobbsee | 02:49 |
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| Hobbsee | hi zul :) | 02:49 |
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| sivang | hi all | 03:07 |
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| tuxmaniac | Hello World | 03:19 |
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| Hobbsee | hi sivang and tuxmaniac | 03:21 |
| === tuxmaniac jumps on Hobbsee before StevenK does :) | ||
| Hobbsee | heh. | 03:22 |
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| LaserJock | hi \sh | 07:20 |
| \sh | moins | 07:21 |
| crimsun | hullo folks | 07:23 |
| zul | hey \sh | 07:24 |
| \sh | hey zul | 07:24 |
| LaserJock | hi crimsun and zul | 07:26 |
| crimsun | 'lo | 07:27 |
| zul | hilo | 07:27 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, it's been a while since we had a MOTU meeting | 08:37 |
| zul | hmmm...is there one coming up? | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | none planned as far as I can see | 08:38 |
| zul | i guess everyone is busy with dapper | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | maybe we should have one last one before the release | 08:39 |
| zul | send a note to the ml | 08:39 |
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| goedson | dholbach: ping. | 09:06 |
| dholbach | goedson: pong | 09:06 |
| goedson | dholbach: I've recieved a request for updating a translation for gnomebaker in Dapper. | 09:07 |
| goedson | May I mail it to you? | 09:07 |
| goedson | I don't have an ubuntu system available to build a new package. | 09:07 |
| dholbach | goedson: could you open a bug report for that? | 09:07 |
| dholbach | I'm quite busy with stuff, but I'd set it on my list to make sure it gets done - does that work for you? | 09:08 |
| goedson | dholbach: In launchpad? | 09:08 |
| dholbach | yeah | 09:08 |
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| goedson | dholbach: Will do it. | 09:08 |
| dholbach | http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnomebaker/+filebug | 09:08 |
| dholbach | goedson: thanks a lot | 09:08 |
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| huats | does anybody can help me : I've made a bug fix | 09:13 |
| dholbach | huats: what package did you fix? | 09:13 |
| huats | libogg | 09:14 |
| huats | I've send the bug to motu reviewers | 09:14 |
| huats | but I have an answer that it is not the right place to do, because it is not in universe | 09:14 |
| zul | libogg is in main isnt it? | 09:14 |
| huats | that is the pb | 09:15 |
| huats | so who should I contact for a review ? | 09:15 |
| zul | i might be able to look at it tonight whats the bug number? | 09:16 |
| huats | 38580 | 09:16 |
| huats | it is a small bug, (in documentation) but a bug anyway... | 09:16 |
| zul | thanks ill have a look at it tonight | 09:16 |
| huats | zul, thanks to you | 09:17 |
| zul | dholbach: it gives me the chance to see if uploading to main works for me ;) | 09:17 |
| zul | huats: no problem.. | 09:17 |
| dholbach | zul: enjoy :) | 09:17 |
| huats | but just to know : which team can I join to ask for a review if the package is in main ? | 09:21 |
| goedson | dholbach: Done. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnomebaker/+bug/44894/+index | 09:21 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 44894 in gnomebaker "Slovak translation seriously buggy" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 09:21 |
| LaserJock | huats: I don't really think there is one, you just have to bug somebody that is a Main dev (ubuntu-core-dev on LP) | 09:22 |
| dholbach | goedson: excellent - I'll add it to my list and assign to motureviewers, so it will get done | 09:22 |
| huats | LaserJock, Hi | 09:23 |
| huats | LaserJock, thanks | 09:24 |
| LaserJock | np | 09:24 |
| zul | hauts: the documentation works for me but there is no ogg directory in the doc directory, is this for breezy or dapper? | 09:25 |
| LaserJock | zul: should be dapper | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | zul: I had a look at it the other day with huats | 09:26 |
| zul | ah i see now.. | 09:27 |
| huats | zul, yep dapper | 09:27 |
| huats | zul, LaserJock almost did everything... | 09:27 |
| zul | ok ill fix it tonight | 09:27 |
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| huats | zul, cool | 09:28 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 10:09 |
| Spec | hi person | 10:09 |
| phanatic | Spec: :) | 10:10 |
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| phanatic | could somebody have a look at this package please (uvf exception granted)? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2333 | 10:27 |
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| crimsun | phanatic: looks fine | 10:30 |
| phanatic | crimsun: thanks | 10:30 |
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| crimsun | phanatic: I uploaded, but the archive is not accepting my uploads again (qprocd bug) | 10:43 |
| crimsun | this is quickly becoming irksome. | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: want me to do it? | 10:44 |
| phanatic | crimsun: thank you. | 10:44 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: sure | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | umm, I see it on dapper-changes | 10:44 |
| crimsun | oh, goodie | 10:44 |
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| crimsun | well, I suppose it's as good a time as any to dive into emacs now that I've a need for diff-mode | 10:52 |
| LaserJock | emacs? as opposed to vim? | 10:52 |
| crimsun | yes, I've used vi/m for my entire UNIX exposure | 10:53 |
| LaserJock | and the vim diff stuff isn't sufficent? | 10:53 |
| crimsun | does it autoadjust? | 10:53 |
| LaserJock | heck if I know, I haven't used emacs or vim for diff | 10:53 |
| sivang | LaserJock: are you still working on the ubuntu packaging manual ? | 10:54 |
| sivang | LaserJock (the one that gets installed in yelp currently) | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | sivang: it is in string freeze but edgy is open | 10:54 |
| sivang | LaserJock: amazing stuff :) | 10:54 |
| crimsun | ah, vimdiff | 10:54 |
| sivang | LaserJock: I like the approach very much, especially the "from scratch" section | 10:55 |
| sivang | LaserJock: I wonder if we could extend it a bit more, plans for edgy I guess :) | 10:55 |
| LaserJock | oh, well thanks. I hope more people will pick it up for edgy | 10:55 |
| LaserJock | sivang: oh yes, this was my first time writing docs, etc. and I was trying to make MOTU | 10:55 |
| LaserJock | Edgy will rock ;-) | 10:55 |
| LaserJock | patch systems especially need work | 10:56 |
| sivang | LaserJock: none the less, this is amazing work you'e started there | 10:56 |
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| LaserJock | well, I tried to put together all the scattered material out there and use real examples | 10:57 |
| LaserJock | and write it more for people wanting to contribute | 10:57 |
| LaserJock | we'll see if it works | 10:58 |
| LaserJock | I think shipping a packaging guide in the distro help is really cool | 10:58 |
| LaserJock | there is also a print version that people can get | 10:58 |
| crimsun | gah, I'm credited :/ | 10:59 |
| LaserJock | in the Packaging Guide? of course | 10:59 |
| LaserJock | sivang: if there is something you want to see in Edgy add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide | 11:03 |
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| pygi | Hi | 11:07 |
| pygi | can somebody please tell me who do I bug to make sure Monodevelop 0.11 is in dapper? :) | 11:08 |
| LaserJock | pygi: you need a UVF exception bug if it is a new release | 11:10 |
| LaserJock | pygi: but we are very deep into the freeze so it would need to be really important bug fixes | 11:10 |
| pygi | yea, I know, but I remember I must have someone to update if for me :P | 11:10 |
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| LaserJock | the motu-uvf LP team is in charge of approving exceptions | 11:11 |
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| pygi | LaserJock, http://www.monodevelop.com/Release_notes_for_MonoDevelop_0.11 | 11:12 |
| pygi | LaserJock, any chance that will get in? | 11:14 |
| LaserJock | pygi: not sure, at this point we might be more inclined to patch the current version to fix the bugs, but I don't make that decision | 11:21 |
| pygi | LaserJock, ah, ok :) | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | pygi: is there an update source version available? | 11:23 |
| pygi | LaserJock, not sure :-/ | 11:23 |
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| LaserJock | revu.tauware.de perhaps | 11:25 |
| LaserJock | because there isn't much of a point to have a UVF exception for a package that doesn't exist ;-) | 11:26 |
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| pygi | argh :( | 11:26 |
| pygi | there is no that package :( | 11:26 |
| crimsun | which package, and where? | 11:27 |
| crimsun | monodevelop | 0.10-0pre1ubuntu6 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources | 11:27 |
| pygi | crimsun, monodevelop 0.11 :) | 11:28 |
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| crimsun | not on revu, or not upstream? (sorry, just switched buffers) | 11:28 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: I told him to try to find a monodevelop 0.11 source package if he wants a UVFe | 11:29 |
| pygi | ah, just source package? :) | 11:30 |
| pygi | http://go-mono.com/sources/monodevelop/monodevelop-0.11.tar.gz | 11:30 |
| pygi | that one? :P | 11:30 |
| crimsun | that's a start. | 11:31 |
| crimsun | you might want to check in #debian-mono to see if anyone has already done work on 0.11. | 11:31 |
| LaserJock | pygi: source as in ubuntu source package | 11:31 |
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| LaserJock | crimsun: yeah, #debian-mono is a good idea | 11:33 |
| pygi | if not, I can always package it :P | 11:33 |
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| pygi | LaserJock, crimsun, ok , thanks,I found the way out of this situation :) | 11:41 |
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| Whoopie | Hi, is something wrong with the sync process or is the archive team "only" really busy? | 11:53 |
| crimsun | Whoopie: the latter. | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | Whoopie: probably really busy + debconf6 | 11:54 |
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| crimsun | we're talking /extremely/ busy | 11:55 |
| Whoopie | crimsun: ok, what's debconf6 ? | 11:58 |
| crimsun | Whoopie: the Debian developers' conference | 11:59 |
| Whoopie | ah! | 11:59 |
| Whoopie | crimsun: I saw your debdiff for the EmulateWheelTimeout problem. Thanks for it. But shouldn't the patch be in the debian/patches directory and not applied directly? | 12:00 |
| crimsun | Whoopie: xserver-xorg-input-mouse does not build-depend on a patch system, and there is no existing debian/patches/, so no. | 12:02 |
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