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GlassCasketYou should be able to type in 'install' or something.12:02
clutteh12:03
iNikuclutt: you have to choose at boot time12:03
cluttoh12:03
EvilIdlerHmm..why is this Norwegian keymap lacking [ and ]  symbols?12:03
EvilIdlerAh, there we go. It was supporting the 27th-29th letter of the alphabet, but KDE's keyboard layout was set to American12:04
kronozcan anyone think of a command to use lame to covert all oggs in the $PWD to mp3?12:04
kronozodd question but would be very useful if anyone could12:05
cluttbtw what is the release date for 6.06? i thought i read somewhere it was june something12:05
kronoz1st june12:05
cluttk12:05
EvilIdlerkronoz: If you know the drawbacks and yadda yadda, have you tried the package soundconverter?12:05
kronozEvilIdler: no12:06
kronozwill look12:06
EvilIdlerkronoz: Or simply apt-get install mp32ogg12:06
kronozc or k in convertor?12:06
DaSkreechk!!!!!!12:06
EvilIdlerkronoz: I did an apt-cache search, and mp32ogg seems closest to what you want.12:07
kronozogg to mp3 not mp3 to ogg12:07
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EvilIdlerkronoz: It might do both ways12:08
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kronozit doesn't i checked12:09
kronozand i can't find 'sounderkovertor'12:09
EvilIdlerkronoz: soundconverter12:09
EvilIdlerkronoz: There's also a tool called 'ova'12:10
EvilIdlerkronoz: http://freshmeat.net/projects/ova/12:10
GeneralZodSleepy time for Zod - night all!12:11
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taomasterhow do i find system updates 4 kubuntu?12:13
taomasterand also the screensaver does not go on automatic12:14
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kronoztaomaster: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade12:16
kronozor use the adept gui12:16
aseigotaomaster: there should be a little icon in the systray that pops whenever their are updates.. or you can run the Updater directly (it's in the kmenu in the System group iirc)12:18
aseigotaomaster: as for screensaver, look in the control panels ... the screensaver panel has what you are probably looking for12:18
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MasterEvilAceare WINE and libxine-extracodecs not on the repositories at all for 6.06?12:20
klerfaytenable universe and multiverse12:21
MasterEvilAcei did12:21
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klerfaytwell I have them in adept12:22
MasterEvilAcehmmm12:22
klerfaytmybe you forgot apt-get update?12:22
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sgroverI had the same problem until yesterday.  Then troy posted his sources.conf file...12:22
MasterEvilAceoh12:22
joscha__MasterEvilAce: they are not on all servers12:22
MasterEvilAceoh ok wine is showing up now12:23
joscha__don't now why.... it didn't work for me for the de.* server12:23
joscha__i tried nl.* and it worked12:23
MasterEvilAceextracodecs isn't appearing though12:23
sgroverone sec, I'll post the sources file I have now.12:23
MasterEvilAcecool, thanks12:23
sgroverHere ya are MasterEvilAce - http://grover.open2space.com/files/sources.list12:25
sgroverThis gave me all the codecs I needed to play avi's/divx/xvid...  and even mplayer.12:25
MasterEvilAceawesome, thanks sgrover12:26
sgroverremember to backup your original file first12:26
sgroveranyone get better resolution on an Intel 945 video card than the defaults?  My acer defaults to ONLY 1024x768.12:28
sgroverI think I need the 915resolution driver, but not sure how to set that up right12:29
klerfaytsgrover, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:29
taomasterthanx 4 the info12:30
sgroverthat gives me "Package `xserver-org' is not installed and no info is available."12:31
sgroverDo I need to exit X?  btw, I'm on dapper 6.06 (flight 7)12:31
klerfaytsgrover, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:32
sgroveryep, did that... resulting in that message.. :(12:32
sgroverbut thanks for the errort.. :)12:32
sgroverer... eFFort / suggestion12:33
sgroversorry klerfayt - I can't send private messages... not registered... (yet)12:35
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klerfaytdoes gtk-qt engine change font dpi or font size only?12:39
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sgrovercan someone help me with video resolution?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't change the max resolution... :(12:55
klerfayttry ubuntu wiki12:56
klerfaytwhat's your resolution?12:56
sgroverit's maxing out at 1024x768.12:56
sgroverI'm on an Acer TravelMate 4202, with the Intel 945 chipset12:57
sgrovershould be able to handle more than that.12:57
EvilIdlerklerfayt: Do you have details about your monitor's frequencies?12:57
crimsunsgrover: try 915resolution12:57
EvilIdlersgrover, even :P12:58
sgroverI tried the 915resolution before reinstalling (repartitioned), but I musta messed up somehow...12:58
EvilIdlersgrover: Have you at any point entered your monitor's min and max frequencies?12:59
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crazy_penguinGood night! // Jo ejt!01:01
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reignHello, I'm having trouble with Nvidia GLX and a custom kernel. After compiling my kernel, rebooting,  and installing the nvidia kernel package everything works fine until I reboot. That's when X refuses to load with GLX enabled ... this is happening on two kubuntu machines running nvidia01:04
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sgroverEvilidler - sorry for delay.  Nope, haven't had to enter frequencies.  Have been able to find them online yet.01:07
ghostdogis there and issue with vcdimager and k3b (cdrdao)?01:07
ghostdogcannot burn a playable copy of vcd01:07
EvilIdlersgrover: What's the monitor model? Should be a lot of numbers I can try on the back01:07
sgroverIt's a laptop - an Acer TravelMate 4202.01:09
sgroverNo details on monitor model on the box.. :(01:09
klerfaytemail to manufacturer01:09
klerfayttry 60Hz01:09
xwolf-is there a MacOS theme for kubuntu?01:10
EvilIdlersgrover: Found a success story about that laptop01:12
sgroverurl? I've been looking myself..01:12
EvilIdlersgrover: The 915resolution driver was loaded with settings "58 1280 800 32", and the control center should have "generic flat panel 1280x800" as an option01:12
sgroverjust finished reconfiguring 915resolution... oops.. will check this again...01:13
EvilIdlersgrover: http://gaston.gmxhome.de/linux/acer_travelmate_4202.html01:13
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sgroverbrb.. gonna restart x01:16
omeowHi.01:16
omeowI'm trying to install Kubuntu Dapper. But whenever I select install, my computer will just stop doing anything at the "Uncompressing something, ok booting the kernel" part.01:17
omeowIf I select failsafe or the first option from the menu, the CD will install fine. However, I'd like to install, not run a live CD forever. What am I doing wrong?01:17
omeow*CD will run fine, not install.01:18
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Cervezaok, so I'm having a little trouble switching over from ubuntu to kubuntu.  I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and rebooted, and when it started up it looked like kde worked, but when i do ps -e it shows gnome01:32
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omeowWell, I tried everything I could think of. It still won't boot the installation.01:33
omeowIt remains stuck at "Uncompressing Kernel... Ok, booting the kernel."01:35
omeow*uncompressing Linux that is.01:35
klerfaytis checksum ok?01:35
omeowI think so. I'm going to check now.01:35
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chowellsHow does kdm find what window managers are installed to populate the session list? I want to add another manually01:38
Ahmuckfor some reason i thought the USPS had a ascii or cvs database that you could purchase that had all address in the US and zip+401:40
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sgroverThanks to those who helped.. I'm now at a resolution of 1280x800 (apparently the max for my box).01:41
EvilIdlerWoo!01:42
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jeff_hey guys01:42
jeff_quanta keeps crashing on me01:42
jeff_im using flight 701:43
jeff_any idea why?01:43
crimsunchowells: they could be in /usr/share/xsessions/, for instance01:43
chowellscrimsun: yes. Added an extra desktop file but it doesn't appear in the list of sessions though01:44
crimsunis the desktop file formatted correctly?01:44
chowellsthink so, Just copied an existing one and changed the relevent details01:45
crimsunwhere's the origin of the desktop file?01:45
chowellsjust 'cp kde.desktop kde4.desktop' in /usr/share/xsessions01:46
EvilIdlersgrover: Well, at least widescreen DVDs will look decent on that laptop, right?01:46
sgroverit should.. :)01:46
crimsunchowells: pastebin?01:47
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chowellscrimsun: http://pastebin.com/71976501:48
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crimsunhmm, should refresh automatically. Have you restarted kdm?01:49
sgroverk, next issue.  Is there any way to change the time a SMB connection will be kept alive, without needed credentials again?01:49
klerfaytwhy is that then you log out of kde it doesn't restart X ?01:49
sgroverI'm finding my connection closes after a few minute.01:49
imbrandonklerfayt: becouse kdm is an xsession also01:50
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sgroverX controls the windows.  KDE is a desktop environment.  X and KDE serve different roles.01:50
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reikiinstalled Kubuntu flight 7. I let it do updates (184 of them) and then found it was using kernel version 2.6.15-21 while the headers available were 2.6.15-22.01:55
reikidid I need to update repos to get 2.6.15-22?01:55
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crimsunreiki: apt-cache policy linux-image-38601:56
crimsunerr, sorry01:56
crimsunapt-cache depends linux-image-38601:56
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sgroverreiki - I had the same issue yesterday.  Disappeared after a reboot.01:57
chowellscrimsun: ah sorted. kdm is too clever and only adds items to the menu if the target of the Exec line exists and is executable :)01:57
reikirebooting the VM now... I'll have a look01:57
crimsunchowells: ah, bad perms?01:57
reikiit stopped me from installing VMWare tools :)01:58
chowellscrimsun: It was just the fact that the target didn't exist01:58
chowellscrimsun: (yet)01:58
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reikiloading Kubuntu in a VM with only 256MB takes a little while. But .... I should just wipe out my last remaining WinXP drive and install it onto there01:59
imbrandongl i've been working days at it ;)01:59
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MasterEvilAcelinux support Dell inspiron TV-OUT?02:02
MasterEvilAcecan't find any options in GUI02:02
chowellstried the keyboard button (if it has it) ?02:02
MasterEvilAcehmm flashes on screen. maybe have to configure it02:03
MasterEvilAceit'll be MONITOR 2, right?02:03
sgrovernew topic (and I feel stupid for this) - how do I change the icon size on the desktop?02:04
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chowellsMasterEvilAce: not sure, maybe02:06
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reikiok... well I got VMWAre tools installed... adept said there are 20 updates so I said ok. Tehn it said it couldn't update because of a problem with headers... that committing might break a package. Not real informative02:13
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clutti have a fresh install of 5.10 breezy  and first thing i'm trying to do is install KDE 3.5.2 using this http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php, but i'm getting unmet dependencies error for packages "Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.5.2) but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu2 is to be installed"02:17
cluttanything i can do?02:17
HymnToLifeclutt> what command are you using ?02:17
cluttapt-get -u install02:19
cluttadept just bombs out with break notices so i switched to that. it happens on any upgradable package, kdelibs,  kdelibs-bin, etc02:20
HymnToLifeclutt> try just apt-get upgrade02:21
cluttya, that just gives a list of all 68 packages that have been kept back02:21
korodedapt-get dist-upgrade then02:21
HymnToLifedan02:21
Samuli^clutt, huh. That seems like a really bad idea to me.02:22
HymnToLifesomeone had the very ame problem just yesterday, we spent like 2 hours on it02:22
Samuli^you're gonna break just about every depency by forcing 3.5.2 from elsewhere.02:22
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korodedkept back == run apt-get dist-upgrade  iirc02:23
korodedhell, it worked for me02:23
HymnToLifeform apt-get upgrde did the trick02:23
HymnToLifeyou could as well upgrate to dapper though, it has 3.5 builtin02:24
Samuli^oh, nevermind. They're for made for breezy. Should've checked the link before saying anything.02:24
cluttapt-get dist-upgrade shows those held back too02:24
cluttSamuli^: it's not possible to have packages of different versions install?02:24
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cluttwell dist-upgrade isn't doing anything.. how can I just upgrade to dapper?02:25
_marian_people, how can I access from Kubuntu the Win partitions (NTFS)?02:26
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HymnToLife!tell _marian_ about ntfs02:27
HymnToLifeit will be read-only though02:27
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HymnToLife!tell clutt about upgrade02:28
_marian_I see, now I have Kubuntu 5.1, is necessary to upgrade to 6.06?02:28
cluttthx02:28
HymnToLife_marian_> not really, Breezy works pretty fine here and Dapper is stil officially beta02:29
_marian_Ok, thanks02:29
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khaije1can anyone reccomend a helpful mac osx channel?02:34
khaije1i guess #macosx is the only one...02:36
davebgimpI have an ubuntu server install that's giving me big problems with apache. I keep getting this error message whenever trying start, restart or reload apache2: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :8002:37
imbrandondavebgimp: something else is running on post 80 looks like02:39
imbrandonport*02:39
davebgimpimbrandon: Yeah, but I can't seem to figure out what02:40
bimberidavebgimp: see if 'sudo netstat -plunt' tells you02:40
cluttso apt is from debian right? does apt allow you to have multiple versions of packages installed or do you always have only one version of any single package?02:41
Samuli^well it allows multiple kernels :)02:42
davebgimpbimberi: Thanks, but I see nothing using port 80. It's weird.02:42
cluttheh how about libraries?02:43
bimberi:/02:43
Samuli^clutt, i don't think so.02:43
Samuli^I guess there's ways to force that, but it's asking for trouble imo.-02:43
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clutthmm can or is kde be installed with full debug enabled in kubuntu?02:46
HymnToLife!debug02:47
ubotuHymnToLife: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:47
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Samuli^clutt, is your breezy up-to-date by the way?02:48
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cluttSamuli^: breezy is until i add the kde 3.5.2 repository, then there are 68 upgradeables (that wont upgrade)02:50
Samuli^right.02:50
Samuli^it's odd though.02:51
Samuli^maybe you should just upgrade to dapper. It's great.02:52
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cluttya i'm thinkin about it.. i haven't decide yet whether i want the dozens of gnome dependencies just to use the update-manager. i wanted to try kubuntu to get away from gnome heh02:52
lwizardlhi02:52
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Samuli^clutt, I think you could update just by: sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper' -i /etc/apt/sources.list02:54
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Samuli^then apt-get update and dist-upgrade02:55
Samuli^that's the way I've upgraded starting from hoary.02:57
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Samuli^!upgrade02:57
ubotuwell, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.02:57
cluttoh, excellent02:57
Samuli^clutt, read the breezyupdgradenotes though.02:59
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vanRijnhm03:00
vanRijnany FAQ's on how to compile and install a custom kernel on ppc?03:01
vanRijnre, aseigo  =:)03:02
HymnToLife!kernelcompile03:02
ubotuYou will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto03:02
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Phoenix92xhi, Im running dapper drake with kernel version 2.6.15-22-386 on a Dell Latitude D610 with a Radeon X300 graphics card. I'm having a problem getting translucency to work correctly. Im using the latest fglrx driver, but when I enable translucency the display is...well...corrupted is the best word for it. Can anyone help me?03:06
vanRijnHymnToLife: I know that info... what I wasn't sure of if that will do what is necessary for yaboot, etc., on powerpc03:10
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mrfishhatHi, i was wondering if anyone knew why i cant edit my kmenu?03:14
mrfishhatwhen i hit save03:14
mrfishhatit goes from 1 to 100% instantly03:14
mrfishhatand the changes arent made03:14
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cluttmrfishhat: happens here too. are you editing or adding/removing?03:24
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mrfishhatclutt: adding and removing03:28
cluttmrfishhat: i managed to get an edit change to show up after running kbuildsycoca. might try that03:28
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ingrato_hi03:31
HymnToLife!tell ingrato_ about hello03:32
ingrato_why do I keep getting this error from the console when I run a GUI app? X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16803:33
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awesometaylorhey guys03:44
CheeseBurgerManHello03:44
awesometayloris there a way i can rebuild the menus?03:44
CheeseBurgerManRebuild what menus?03:44
awesometaylorpanel03:44
CheeseBurgerManThe K Menu?03:45
CheeseBurgerManWhat is the 'panel menu'?03:45
awesometaylorlike, i have gnome and kde, and with alacarte deleted the kde programs cause i thought it would only change gnome03:45
awesometayloryeah, the k menu i meant03:45
CheeseBurgerManAh03:45
CheeseBurgerManrun 'kmenuedit'03:45
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awesometaylorok, thanks03:46
CheeseBurgerManNP03:46
awesometaylori didnt think they would use the same menu03:46
CheeseBurgerManThey don't, but KDE detected the Gnome apps,03:47
awesometayloryeah, but now k menu only shows gnome apps03:47
CheeseBurgerManWeird. I installed Gnome and they both show each other's apps.03:49
awesometaylorit was like that for me, i didnt want that so i delete kde apps from gnome menu03:49
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cluttis it just me or is there no more Konqueror missing a Go menu?03:56
cluttis it just me or is Konqueror missing a Go menu?03:57
CheeseBurgerManIt doesn't have one, you're right.03:57
clutt?! anyone know how to add it lol04:01
bleakedis there a quick way with dpkg to show the installed version number of an app?04:08
CheeseBurgerMandpkg -s <package>04:09
CheeseBurgerManIt'll give a bit more, but the version number is in there. :P04:10
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bleakedCheeseBurgerMan. argh..yes, thank you.. for some reason i thought it would take long to search teh man page than ask here..so thank you04:13
CheeseBurgerManyou're welcome04:13
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nxv_hi, i have touble with my time. when i adjust date time in the taskbar and check set date automatically it says it cant contact north-america.pool.ntp but i can ping it04:32
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nxv_my time is 4h wrong should i set my bios time to corret this big shift?04:32
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nxv_sudo ntpdate north-america.pool.ntp says the NTP socket is in use, exiting04:34
chowellsntpd running?04:35
chowellsps aux | grep ntpd04:36
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wasp_emshi does anyone know how i can install a bootsplash screen?04:39
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wasp_emsok does anyone know how i can compile a window decoration so i can install it?04:41
CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: The same way you compile a program. (if you know how to do that)04:43
bleakednxv_. um..isn't it pool.ntp.org?04:45
nxv_bleaked: just figured out that i had to deinstall ntp-server04:46
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nxv_thought a machine can get time from inet an serve it for the local network04:46
KDEfanboyshould yakuake be in dapper? some forum posts are saying so but i don't see it04:47
nxv_what is yakuake?04:47
CheeseBurgerMannxv_: It's a quake-like console04:48
CheeseBurgerManKDEfanboy: There's a package for it in the repos.04:48
nxv_a what? a terminal console in the style of quake??04:48
Snake__KDEfanboy: it is in dapper, and breezy04:48
Snake__nxv_: yes, its very nice, I use it now04:49
CheeseBurgerMannxv_: Yeah.04:49
nxv_nice04:49
KDEfanboyhmm what does your repository list look like?04:49
Snake__!sources04:49
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:49
Snake__that04:49
nxv_i am waiting for xgl to be running on my ati 9000 mobility04:49
Snake__nxv_: sounds like fun, im waiting for it to run on my 9600 pro :P04:50
Snake__XGL = Very sketchy04:50
nxv_thought only the 9000 has a bug and 9600 should work allready04:50
Snake__I thought it would work already too04:50
Snake__its diffrent for every system it seems04:50
Snake__its quite a b1tch to get working too04:51
nxv_http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15925204:51
nxv_this thread help me to get it running without decorations04:51
nxv_this was after several hours/days04:52
nxv_i decided to leave it and try it again when it is stable, as i spent enough time into it04:52
nxv_and left all the work i had to do behind04:52
nxv_hope it is soon stable, as it is part of the final open suse release04:52
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nxv_some friends have it running on gentoo04:53
Phoenix92xcould anyone explain to me how this "dock application bar" thing works and why no matter which programs I open none of them go onto the dock?04:53
nxv_so it shouldn't last so long for ubntu to get it up running04:53
Snake__nxv_: I believe it will be stable in dapper+104:53
Snake__they say04:54
nxv_is dapper already released?04:54
Snake__Beta04:54
Snake__release on june 1st04:54
nxv_wasn't it issued for 4/06?04:54
Snake__Yes, they delayed it04:55
Snake__and its good they did04:55
Snake__its very cleaned up and much better04:55
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Snake__nxv_: its starting to feel dapper :) (if thats a verb)04:56
nxv_yeah i like ubuntu very much04:56
nxv_only gentoo has more thinks running and more comfort04:56
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nxv_but all the compiling mad my fan drive me mad04:56
nxv_and after loving debian before04:57
nxv_ubuntu is just the better debian because of more frequent releases04:57
Snake__Agreed, and I like the community more :)04:57
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nxv_some times i have problems because ubuntu is so easy to use04:58
nxv_it is hard to get answers to more advanced problems04:58
Snake__hehe04:58
Snake__Trudat04:58
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nxv_whether your questions get just flushed away or no one else carred about it before04:58
nxv_gentoo users are more into the details04:59
nxv_but i see myself change too04:59
nxv_i like the possibilities linux gives me04:59
nxv_but often i just want something to run to use it instead of waisting time to set it up04:59
robotgeeknxv_: lots of ways to do that.05:00
Snake__heh05:00
bleakedagreed..i'm a 2 year gentoo user gone kubuntu for that reason.05:00
robotgeeknxv_: settings, back up your home directory05:00
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robotgeeknxv_: packages, dpkg --get-selections > packagelist.txt05:01
mutant3..05:02
nxv_robotgeek: thx for the tip. did i aske for how to backup? sorry, wasn't my intention05:02
nxv_bye for tonight05:03
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CaBlGuYanyone alive in here this evening??05:09
Snake__Nope05:09
robotgeekCaBlGuY: most definetly, no05:11
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CaBlGuYhehe05:13
CaBlGuYwususp Snake__05:13
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Snake__nm u?05:15
Snake__Just planning out this months workout05:15
CaBlGuYjust gettin back into Kubuntu, and I remebered that it's not reqignising(sp) my slave HDD. that's why I was booting to defualt seetings but... if I don't learn how to fix it, I won't never know how to fix it..  or help others.. :p05:16
Snake__Why isnt it?05:17
CaBlGuYdunno..  havn't got that far yet.. :op05:17
Snake__well is kubuntu still there?05:17
CaBlGuYyea, im loggin in and everything..05:17
CaBlGuY*logged05:17
CaBlGuYgot the desktop goin and everything..05:18
Snake__ah weird....05:18
CaBlGuYwurd..05:18
CaBlGuYI think it's a mount problem..  but I can't rember how to figure it out..05:18
CaBlGuYsomethin to do with goin into the command line and doin somethin I think..05:18
Snake__!mount05:19
ubotumount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f05:19
CaBlGuY!windowsdrives05:19
ubotumethinks windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f05:19
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fatejudgerI can't get kmplayer to play anything but simple mp3s through the "mplayer" output option05:22
fatejudgerno video or anything05:22
fatejudgerI have Xine installed too05:22
fatejudgerand it works great in Kaffeine05:23
fatejudgerbut with this Konqueror plugin switch, I need to get it working in KMPlayer05:23
robotgeekfatejudger: xine works great for me, mplayer doesn't05:24
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fatejudgerI'm talking about kmplayer05:25
fatejudgerwhich as I understand it isn't the same as mplayer05:25
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robotgeekfatejudger: oh yeah, kmplayer can use xine engine, i think. lemme check05:26
fatejudgerrobotgeek: I know it can, but it doesn't work for some reason05:26
robotgeekokay, i don't wherei set the option, sorru05:26
robotgeeksorry, err05:26
fatejudgerrobotgeek: it can't load the player or something like that05:27
fatejudgerrobotgeek: it's in the main options05:27
CaBlGuYmy bad, i got it. I just forgot where I mounted it to..  :p05:27
CaBlGuYsilly me..05:27
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CaBlGuYok, now that I figured out my booboo, time fo bed..05:32
gili was wondering how to set a standby/suspend timer....?05:34
paulbwhen trying to set up the debian package for VHCS i get the following error:http://pastebin.com/71996605:34
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gilhow do i put computer on suspend mode in  X minutes from now05:35
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KDEfanboywhich package has the X includes?05:38
robotgeek!xincludes05:38
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev05:38
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KDEfanboyshould autoconf set AUTOCONF?05:43
george_KDEfanboy: more info plz05:44
KDEfanboyI'm trying to compile ktorrent from svn and even though autoconf is installed it says it's not found. the error line shows it's looking for $AUTOCONF but that is not set. i dunno if i need to source in an environment file from the autoconf package or set it manually05:46
george_sudo apt-cache search auto conf| grep autoconf05:47
george_also ktorrent is apt-get install'able05:48
george_any reason why from src?05:48
george_sudo apt-cache search autoconf| grep autoconf05:48
KDEfanboyyes, it has more features and to patch it05:50
george_you have build-essential insaled?05:51
george_installed even05:51
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george_-l05:51
george_:P05:51
KDEfanboyno05:51
george_good start05:51
george_;)05:51
kunjanso anyone playing with xgl on nvidia?05:51
george_yes and no ;)05:52
kunjanif i use the kooraa live cd it works great05:52
george_indeed05:52
kunjanbut cant get it to work myself05:52
george_lspci05:52
george_what is your card05:52
kunjanthe only difference being that the live cd is 32 bit while my system is running 6405:52
kunjannvidia geforce4 440 go05:52
george_mwaaaaaaa05:52
KDEfanboyNAH, SAME THING05:53
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KDEfanboyoops sry05:53
george_6 bit is a long time in comming sorry05:53
george_KDEfanboy: ?05:53
kunjanwell GL runs fine05:53
kunjanso i would guess 64 bit Xgl would be ok too ...05:53
kunjanlol05:53
kunjani mean nvidia's drivers are fine on 64 bit05:53
KDEfanboysorry for caps. i installed the build-essentials but $AUTOCONF is still unset05:53
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george_KDEfanboy: sudo apt-cache search autoconf| grep autoconf05:55
george_should give:05:55
george_autoconf - automatic configure script builder05:55
george_autoconf-doc - automatic configure script builder documentation05:55
george_autoconf2.13 - automatic configure script builder (obsolete version)05:55
george_autoconf-archive - The Autoconf Macro Archive05:55
george_locate autoconf05:56
KDEfanboyya it does. i have the first one installed05:56
george_=05:56
george_/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/ximian-connector/ximian-connector-autoconfig.html05:56
george_/usr/share/evolution-exchange/2.6/glade/exchange-autoconfig-wizard.glade05:56
george_/usr/share/firefox/defaults/autoconfig05:56
george_/usr/share/firefox/defaults/autoconfig/prefcalls.js05:56
george_/usr/share/firefox/defaults/autoconfig/platform.js05:56
george_/usr/include/linux/autoconf.h05:56
george_/usr/lib/firefox/components/autoconfig.xpt05:56
george_/usr/lib/firefox/components/libautoconfig.so05:56
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martyndahi, can someone help me figure out why my centrino laptop is running at only 600mhz when it's capable of 1.6ghz under full power/load?05:57
apokryphosgeorge_: please use a pastebin for large pastes.05:57
george_okee sorry05:57
george_;)05:57
KDEfanboy:P05:57
george_martynda: cause i guess it will tell you what its running at NOW05:58
george_and not what its capable of05:58
martyndayea... but it's using up 99% cpu cycles, shoudlnt it increase automatically?05:58
robotgeekhey apokryphos05:58
apokryphosheyhey05:58
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george_martynda: how/what are you using to read this05:59
george_?05:59
martyndageorge_: /proc/cpuinfo05:59
george_k05:59
MattchewieMan, soo apparenlty me and kubuntu.....we aren't friends lol06:00
martyndaand then top/gkrellm tell me the proc is under 99% load while im running a cpu intensive script06:00
george_compaq?06:00
MattchewieI try to use a niffty mount -t smbfs and it tells me no!, and there is no mount.smbfs........06:00
martyndadell inspiron 600006:00
martyndaim actually beginning to get absolutely furious that all this time my cpu ran at only 600mhz, granted kubuntu still ran great, but wtf....06:01
robotgeekmartynda: xubuntu is great for slower cpus06:01
george_indeed06:02
martyndait's a 1.6 ghz centrino! it's a year old lol06:02
george_and roxfiler is my fav (alltime)06:02
robotgeekmartynda: oo.06:02
martyndai want to know why it's not running at that speed when it's supposed to be06:02
robotgeekmartynda: cpu stepping?06:02
Mattchewiesouds like ti to me06:03
martyndayeah... but isn't the idea to step up when needed, especially under full use?06:03
chowellsno, different governors do different things06:03
martyndaim running a script to manipulate a very large txt file, to be honest, some more cpu cycles would be nice06:03
martyndahow do you edit the governors?06:03
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martyndauhh... this is not good... i think my year long love affair with linux might have just ended06:05
Mattchewiemartynda, just google about cpu governors and you should find what you need06:07
chowellsmartynda: have you checked for BIOS settings for what speed the CPU should run at?06:08
martyndahmm good idea06:09
martyndalet me try that06:09
martyndaalthough this is weird06:09
chowellsnot sure if OSs can override that06:09
martynda1600000 1333000 1067000 80000006:09
chowellsall of the laptops I've had have settings for it in the BIOS06:09
martyndait's running below the available frequencies06:09
martyndai'll check out the bios, thanks06:09
chowellskubuntu dapper drake uses powernowd to control CPU speed06:10
chowellsin theory it should increase speed as load increases06:10
martyndai'm running breezy06:11
chowellsrunning powernowd -d -vvvvv should tell you what it's doing06:11
martyndacan't really afford to run beta software on my only computer06:11
martyndabrb06:11
chowellsI'm not sure what breezy uses, possibly the same06:11
KDEfanboyhow do you ignore (not install) dependencies when installing a package? i thought apt-get -m might do it, but nope06:13
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eqisowhello all06:14
Mattchewieif I could just get breezy to 3.5.2, I will be good06:14
Mattchewiethat kde 3.5.206:14
Mattchewie*thats06:14
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chowellsKDEfanboy: dpkg --ignore-depends i guess06:14
eqisowMattchewie06:15
eqisowhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php06:15
eqisowKDE 3.5.2 in breezy06:15
eqisowthough dapper works great for me /shrug06:15
george_i'm using dapper and ktorrent with no issues06:15
eqisowhas anybody had any success opening .daa files in Linux?06:16
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george_.daa = ?06:16
eqisowor getting powerISO (the only app I know of that reads them) working in wine06:16
eqisowerr, .daa is like a compressed ISO file06:16
george_windowz stuff?06:17
eqisowhttp://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=DAA06:17
eqisowsorta, yeah06:17
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Mattchewiehrm, see this is what i don't get, I put in the repository through adept, fetched updates and then did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and...still no 3.5.206:17
martyndaoook... i guess a reboot did it06:17
martyndabecause now it works just fine06:17
Mattchewieadept shows me that there are 3.5.2 packages but when I select them, it says it will break things :/06:18
eqisowit's not really windows, so much as it is one particular windows app06:18
eqisowwhat does it say it will break?06:18
Mattchewieone sec, pulling it back up06:19
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eqisowbtw, you might want to try these repositories instead06:20
george_sorry linux facist06:20
eqisowdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main06:20
eqisowdeb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main06:20
eqisowsame GPG key as the others06:20
eqisowshrug, something I downloaded as a torrent. nothing I can do about the format06:21
Mattchewieok, for example, the kdebase-kio-plugins, says there is a 3.5.2 canidate version, I select upgrade, the it just says BREAK(upgrade)06:21
eqisowand linux facist or not, not being able to read a format is a big problem. never had it before06:21
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KDEfanboyhmm06:21
robotgeekMattchewie: what does the terminal say?06:22
johnny3dcrimsun, hello.  any news the bug?06:22
Mattchewiehrm, what apt command would I run to get said info?06:22
Mattchewie<- apt newbie06:22
eqisowsudo apt-get update06:23
eqisowthen sudo apt-get upgrade06:23
eqisowbtw, when you get KDE 3.5 running, I recomend amarok 1.4 as well :)06:24
robotgeekMattchewie: no "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"06:24
george_eqisow: Please see also: doc/mkisofs-2.01/README.compression06:24
robotgeekeqisow: he needs to dist-upgrade :)06:24
eqisowdist-upgrade just for KDE?06:24
george_eqisow: http://www.linux4all.de/livecd/barebone/customization-1.1.htm06:24
robotgeekyeah. dist-upgrade is just a "smart" upgrade06:24
Mattchewiehrm, well when I just run the upgrade I get a list of kde stuff that says its "been kpt back"06:25
Mattchewie*been kept back"06:25
eqisowthanks george06:25
robotgeekMattchewie: please dist-upgrade06:25
george_some advice if you [ctel]  + cp -a iso/isolinux isoz/ cp -a iso/b* isoz/ Write co06:25
george_some advice if you [ctrl]  + cp -a iso/isolinux isoz/ cp -a iso/b* isoz/ Write co06:25
george_even06:25
george_#1. Create a compressed copy from the iso folder:06:26
Mattchewiebahh same deal,06:26
george_[05:20]  * george_ has no love for windowz -- at all - apzz and all06:26
george_oeps06:26
george_sorry06:26
george_fuk06:26
george_damn i think i will go to bed06:26
george_its 6am06:26
george_:P06:26
Mattchewie....I get "the following packages have been kept back <list "O" kde packages">06:27
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robotgeekMattchewie: kde-config --version06:27
Mattchewieand then "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 68 not upgraded"06:28
Mattchewiekde: 3.4.306:28
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Mattchewieqt: 3.3.406:28
Mattchewieand kde-config: 1.006:28
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robotgeekMattchewie: kk, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"06:29
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wasp_emshi..in order to play movies do i need any other codec than w32 and totem player?06:29
eqisowdepends on the movie format wasp06:30
MattchewieOk, tried that and it says that some packages could not be installed, I have requested an impossible situation or using unstable distro06:30
wasp_emsit is mpg06:30
george_wasp: apt-get remove --purge rorem06:30
george_wasp: apt-get remove --purge totem06:30
george_even06:31
eqisowmpg should play without anything, I think06:31
wasp_emswhat does that do george?06:31
MattchewieI see, kmail and ksysguard as deps to the kubuntu desktop06:31
wasp_emsit does but without sound06:31
Mattchewiethen I get E: Broken packages06:31
robotgeekwasp_ems: why do you have totem installed on kubuntu?06:31
george_wasp: i tend to get rid of all totem stuff06:31
robotgeekMattchewie: sudo apt-get install -f06:31
george_as it alays causes issues06:31
wasp_emswhat should i use to play movies?06:31
robotgeekwasp_ems: kaffeine-xine works very well, i think06:31
eqisowKMplayer is good, so is caffeine, and VLC06:32
eqisowI usually keep all 306:32
george_mplayer is my personal fav06:32
Mattchewieoh man it hates me06:32
Mattchewielol06:32
george_kmplayer - aslo sucks06:32
george_also even06:32
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eqisowkmplayer uses mplayer as backend...06:32
george_yeah06:33
eqisowor it can, at any rate06:33
george_but mplayer on its own is tight06:33
george_imho06:33
eqisowooh, btw, you will want to be sure to get libdvdcss2 as ell. for DVD's :)06:33
MattchewieSame issues, the upgrade is stopping on kmail and ksysguard lol06:33
george_but i use moplayer and mencoder a lot for cideo editing on linux ;)06:33
robotgeekMattchewie: weird.06:33
wasp_emsxine does not have either sound06:33
Mattchewietell me about it robotgeek, I could of swore I checked out breezy a while back, noticed they had 3.5 packages and installed without issue06:34
Mattchewie...but for some reason, this go around is not working for me06:34
Mattchewielol06:34
robotgeekwasp_ems: then maybe you don't have the codecs? "dpkg -i w32codecs | grep ii"06:34
wasp_emsi do have the codecs just installed them..and i can see they are installed from adept06:34
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robotgeekMattchewie: i am surprised that "sudo apt-get install -f" doesn't fix things. try "sudo apt-get clean" maybe?06:35
Mattchewiethen try the -f again after the clean?06:35
Mattchewiebah....no dice!06:35
MattchewieI guess I could just install drapper but I was hoping I could just do this upgrade and have it wrap me in a "wow, upgrading is easy" warm blanket lol06:36
robotgeekMattchewie: i had no issues while upgrading from breezy to kde 3.5.2 to dapper06:36
george_Mattchewie: take a look at -> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:36
george_its worth a look06:36
robotgeekbut that was a long time ago :P06:36
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Mattchewiecan a full upgrade be done totally via apt?06:36
george_yar06:37
KDEfanboyMattchewie: i had a fresh breezy install that refused to 3.5.2 also06:37
george_but i got segfault when doing that recently06:37
george_so back up kid06:37
george_;)06:37
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vbgunzhello world06:37
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MattchewieYeah I cold of swore my inital 3.5 wasn't this hard lol06:38
vbgunzhow do I restart x? I tried sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start|restart but I don't get X back...06:38
eqisowctrl + alt + backspace06:38
vbgunzI sudo killall kdm and that seems to kill it but I don't get it back06:39
eqisowor, if you're at the command line, startx06:39
vbgunzeqisow: that doesn't work... it takes me out of x but then I can't get back in06:39
robotgeekvbgunz: why doesn't that work, check logs in /var/logs/Xorg.log with lines (EE)06:39
vbgunzrobotgeek: I am using the livecd... what am I looking for?06:39
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vbgunzeqisow: I will try startx next time hopefully it works06:40
robotgeekvbgunz: X doesn't work on your live cd?06:40
eqisowif you are using the live CD and X doesn't start, X is proibably not configured correctly06:40
eqisowcan you get into X at all on it?06:40
vbgunzrobotgeek: x works fine, but when I try to restart x with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart or sudo killall, etc x never comes back :(06:40
eqisowsometimes it doens't recognize certain video cards / monitors06:40
eqisowhmm..06:41
robotgeekvbgunz: and this is only on the live cd?06:41
vbgunzyeah, I am testing KDE and I really like it but don't know if I should install it yet06:41
robotgeekvbgunz: go for it :)06:41
vbgunzrobotgeek: KDE is frigging nice... I underestimated the power of the geek engine huh :P06:42
vbgunzright now, I am just trying to set up dual view through the KDe display manager but everytime I restart X I end up having to boot06:42
Mattchewieholy crap stick I just went stupid06:42
MattchewieI didn't realise that some repositories require gpg keys :|06:42
vbgunzi'll try startx ... hopefully that works... if I am not back in a few seconds I had to boot06:43
robotgeekMattchewie: hmm, we all assumed that you read the complete instructions :)06:43
MattchewieWell I mean I added it the key and everything from the offical release statement06:44
Mattchewiebut I did so thinking it was optional, though I had did it anyways06:44
robotgeekno, all packages are signed.06:44
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MattchewieGah, gentoo has corrupted my soul, I apparently need to do a bit more reading :/06:51
robotgeekMattchewie: maybe try LFS?06:53
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vbgunzI think I know why x fails to come back... it is because I am trying to work with dual monitors. when I restored xorg.conf x would start... hmm06:57
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Mattchewierobotgeek, LFS?07:00
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MattchewieI think I can get into kubuntu, its just a matter of familarizing myself with its tool set and its pkg managment07:01
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vbgunzwhats katapult? I selected it and a logo has taken over the dead center of my screen... I see a slingshot and nothing else...07:14
regeyavbgunz: start typing the name of a program...07:15
regeyavbgunz: if you've ever seen the mac os x program quicksilver in action, katapult is (currently) a limited imitation...07:15
regeyaexample:  let's say you want konsole to run.  hit meta-space, start typing 'kons' (without quotes of course) and once konsole comes up, hit enter.  et viola.07:16
vbgunzI think it is broken in Dapper... the logo is stuck dead center and I don't know how to focus it07:16
samuli /me does apt-get katapult07:17
vbgunzhow do I meta-space?07:17
vbgunzhad to kill it07:19
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vbgunzis there a way to show hidden applications like kwallet and the menu editor?07:22
vbgunzI mean in the menus07:23
regeyavbgunz: alt-space, sorry.07:23
vbgunzregeya: I'll try it again :)07:23
vbgunzregeya: it ran this time, pretty cool07:24
KDEfanboywhy are they hidden?07:25
KDEfanboy*how07:26
vbgunzKDEfanboy: dunno... e.g. I want kwallet right now, I know I have it but the name isn't kwallet and it is not in the menus...07:26
KDEfanboyi think that's kwalletmanager and kmenuedit right?07:26
vbgunzI guess katapult doesn't know of them07:27
KDEfanboyoh you're talking about katapult.. ok07:27
KDEfanboyin that case, dunno either07:28
vbgunzKDEfanboy: sorry, I was talking about the menus in the system also. I can't find kwalletmanager or kmenuedit in any of the menus either07:28
KDEfanboyhmm07:29
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vbgunzrobotgeek: what do you use for an IDE?07:32
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nixternalyou can get to kwallet throught through::.. system settings > security & privacy07:38
nixternalin there you can enable the kwallet subsystem and launch wallet manager07:38
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vbgunzman my only dread about moving over to KDE is my firefox settings and passwords to Konquerer and Thunderbird settings, email and filters to Kontact and my revelation passwords to kwallet... other than that I'd make the switch quick07:39
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vbgunznixternal: yeah, that is where I found kwallet07:39
nixternalhehe07:39
vbgunz:)07:39
nixternali have 2 puters...one ub and one kub...so i can enjoy the best of both worlds07:39
nixternalbut if i had to choose...kde i think07:39
regeyabravo.07:40
nixternali used slackware for a long time as well as suse...and to me...kubuntu pwnz em all07:40
regeyavbgunz: you *could* use firefox, y'know...mainly you just miss out on having your web experience integrated into your desktop07:40
regeyaand if you're worried about the gtk theme, kubuntu has gtk-qt preinstalled07:41
lwizardlanyone know of a way to search for motherboards with certain options? like # of usb, pci, agp, etc07:41
vbgunzregeya: thats the thing, I love Konquerer and wish Firefox was like that :(07:41
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crimsunbe careful with gtk2-engines-gtk-qt, though07:41
vbgunzI am good with qt. it looks great07:41
regeyaoh.  well, nevermind. :-D  I use more than one platform and use firefox on 'em all.  no way will I go back to using a one-platform turd of a browser07:42
vbgunzbtw, ubuntu has gksudo, what is it for KDE?07:42
regeyanot that konq is a turd, it's great.07:42
crimsunkdesu07:42
regeyawe won't talk about gnome's browser.07:42
vbgunzkdesu thanks!07:42
regeyacrimsun: what issues have you had with gtk-qt07:42
vbgunzwell Windows has IE... heh07:42
crimsunregeya: if you use a non-KDE environment, the ~/.gtkrc-2.0 that it creates will wreak havoc07:43
nixternalie sux07:43
nixternal;D07:43
regeyaand other than security issues IE isn't all that bad...the security issues are a biggie tho...07:43
nixternali actually installed ie7 on my moms puter...omg it is horrid07:43
regeyaI'm not talking about standards compliance, but the user experience07:43
regeyaok ok07:43
regeyaI lied, it sucks07:44
vbgunz:P07:44
regeyaI think I'm the only person on earth that's ever used safari and not liked it07:44
paulb_sadly there is the few websites.07:44
vbgunzanyone work with python and kate in here?07:45
regeyayeah, I'm dissing the guys who beefed up khtml07:45
nixternali just got my python bible so i can start learning07:45
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vbgunzis there a way to quickly test a script in the terminal?07:45
regeyacrimsun: I don't think gtk-qt was intended for non-kde users but I concede the point :-)07:45
nixternali have been a sys admin forever...time to check out something new07:45
vbgunzI am currently typing in: python testfile.py to get it to run... is there a quicker way to launch a script within the builtin terminal?07:46
vbgunznixternal: I think you will like Python if you like power and simplicity :)07:46
Hobbseevbgunz: ./nameofscript?07:47
crimsunregeya: it shouldn't totally break non-KDE, though, which it does currently.07:47
Hobbseeif you're in the right dir07:47
paulb_anyone know how to get ie6 running in ubuntu? i hate it too but the MLS (multiple Listings Service) requires it. my dad sorta made me a bet that if i could get ie running he would switch.07:47
Hobbsee!+wine07:47
ubotuWine is a compatibility for running windows programs on linux.  Get the latest .deb from http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ . This thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 - has details for installation and setup using winetools. More info at http://www.winehq.org or for support go to #winehq.07:47
nixternalso i have heard vbgunz...i am going to take a week straight and read07:47
regeyanixternal: I know it's terribly trendy of me to point toward ruby, but, um, after using py for a while I ended up using ruby for my scripting needs...I can put up with 'end' better than I can forced spacing...depends on your preferences though.  if you try python, sort of like it but don't, that'd be my suggestion *after* python07:47
Hobbseepaulb_: see the !wine factoid07:47
nixternalthx regeya07:48
nixternali will look into it07:48
vbgunzbash: ./test.py: Permission denied07:48
regeyacrimsun: I'll pick on the other camp:  selected gnome themes should work without wankery outside a gnome environment. ;-)07:48
nixternali have done the whole .net crap in the past....no more please07:48
nixternal;D07:48
ahmenivbgunz: chmod +x test.py07:48
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vbgunzahmeni: thanks I know I can do that but was hoping sort of like F5 would send my script straight to the built in terminal07:49
crimsunregeya: they do. I've never seen a gnome theme /prevent/ kde from starting.07:49
vbgunzwill look to see if I can make something happen07:49
regeyacrimsun: in all seriousness, I've never had .gtkrc-2.0 from kde prevent gnome from starting.07:49
paulb_vbgunz: chmod to 75507:49
ahmenivbgunz: oh, you mean a command to make a script launch in your current konsole?07:49
paulb_it must be execuitable07:49
crimsunregeya: no, it prevents Xfce from starting.07:49
regeyacrimsun: oh.  well, that's xfce's problem.07:50
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vbgunzahmeni: I am using kate and it has a builtin terminal... the script I work on I would like to test in the builtin terminal... the way I do it now is: python test.py...07:50
regeyadoesn't that use xforms anyway?  *runs!*07:50
ahmenivbgunz: ahh, yeah.  that'd be awesome.  hrm.. maybe dcop can do it07:50
vbgunzam checking to see if it can be done07:51
regeyaanyway, enough ot flamery from me...g'night all07:52
KDEfanboypaulb_: this might be useful http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=46907:57
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clovesmoker!listchannels07:58
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ahmenivbgunz: damn.  nothing in dcop to control the konsolepart or even get the filename. :\08:09
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vbgunzahmeni: where is this dcop?08:10
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ahmenivbgunz: launch kdcop to get the browser, or just dcop to call commands08:11
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vbgunzicalled dcop... well, I am thinking maybe there is a way to find out what the terminal name in kate is, then use an external tool to send commands to it... I am in #kate btw and no one answered me on it :(08:12
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vbgunzahmeni: damn dcop is quite extensive huh08:14
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KDEfanboyhow do you find which package to which a file belongs?08:34
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lwizardlwhat file system is best for 4gb+ files ?08:37
HobbseeKDEfanboy: i should know that...08:38
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KDEfanboypop quiz :P08:40
HobbseeKDEfanboy: ping!    dpkg -S|--search <pattern> ...           find package(s) owning file(s)08:41
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KDEfanboyah08:42
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Bilfordis Ubuntu going to use KDE instead of Gnome as the default08:53
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Bilfordis that where it's headed08:55
bimberinow there's a question!08:56
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bimberii'd say that'd be over a few dead bodies :)08:57
Bilfordlol08:58
Hobbseeer....i dont think so...08:59
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octanARRRR,,, how do i install the nvidia dirvers not using the crapy driver dappers repo provide,, the libGL is friking mesa.. and MESA suxz comapred to nividias libGL09:04
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n3stormuolas09:05
Hobbsee!nvidia09:06
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:06
octanthe developer that is responseble for the nvidia driver for (K)ubuntu . should be shot.. cos he cant do he job correctly. mesa is a free implemetion of libGL ,.. and isnt near as good as the nvidias09:07
octanHobbsee let me take a look09:08
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octanmythtv woundt work with libmesa.. games plays like 80 yeart old ppl walk09:09
octanso on ans on & on :P09:09
Antartikasomeone have xgl+compiz in kubuntu dapper?09:10
Hobbsee!xgl09:12
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/09:12
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vbgunzanyone know how when I open a window on a certain desktop it remains there and does not bother me on the taskbar of another desktop?09:14
vbgunzcurrently all windows opened in one desktop remains on the taskbar of another desktop... this sucks :(09:15
Antartika!xgl09:16
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/09:16
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octanHobbsee, i can only find howto for ati card..09:18
Hobbseeer...09:19
octani got nvidia09:19
octanhttp://pastebin.com/72013109:19
octanthats why i need GL not GL-mesa09:19
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Hobbseeah ok09:19
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vbgunzother than kdevelop3, is there another nice IDE out there?09:22
vbgunzI am trying to browse adept but everything I search for there returns nothing meanwhile I sudo apt-get it without a problem :P09:22
caffeianyone else's konqueror always opening Ark instead of just viewing the zip with the embedded view when left clicking?  (mime setting for x-zip is to open in the embedded view, but there's no service, and I'm not sure what it's supposed to be)09:22
caffeiI did this fine with old versions of KDE...09:22
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caffeiI hope someone didn't just decide to obliterate the embedded zip view for some stupid (read: GNOME-like) reason.09:24
ahmenivbgunz: configure panel->taskbar->show windows from all desktops09:24
caffei(latest dapper, btw, 3.5.2)09:24
Tombuntuis there a way for me to upgrade my 5.10 breezy kubuntu to the latest dapper09:24
Hobbsee!upgrade09:25
Hobbsee!+upgrade09:25
ubotufrom memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.09:25
vbgunzahmeni: thank you very much, you saved me from grief :)09:25
Tombuntuupdate-manager -d?09:25
Tombuntuor go to command and do !+upgrade09:25
Tombuntuwhy doesnt adept do it :(09:26
caffeican anyone here confirm whether or not the embedded zip view works in konqueror on dapper with 3.5.2?09:26
ahmenivbgunz: np, what language are you looking for an IDE for?09:26
lwizardlhow do I mount a windows ntfs partition so I can copy my files over and the fdisk it09:26
vbgunzpython09:26
Tombuntuwizard: get captiventfs09:26
vbgunzI prefer something simple and not too fullblown09:26
Tombuntuits the safest09:26
ahmeniIDLE is pretty simple, eric's probably too big but it's worth a look09:27
ahmeniand pida, but I've never used it09:27
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vbgunzI don't need visual studio or komodo. I prefer scite but it is limited. I love kate but it too has it's shortcomings...09:27
vbgunzyeah, eric and pida are too big. i prefer a simple text editor with syntax highlighting and intellisense if possible09:28
caffeican anyone here confirm whether or not the embedded zip view works in konqueror on dapper with 3.5.2?09:28
vbgunzobject viewer and docs embedded are good. the best I've ever come across is wingide but my god that thing is filled with bugs...09:28
Hobbseecaffei: i cant seem to make it work09:28
caffeiHobbsee, damn.  I hope it's a bug and not some maint decision, because I like that feature >_>09:29
octanim trying to do this,, sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r` but it cant find any source why?09:29
Hobbseecaffei: i suspect a bug, or upstream maintainer decision09:29
Hobbseei didnt see it discussed in a meeting or anything09:29
octanE: dldn't find package linux-source-2.6.15-22-38609:29
caffeiHobbsee, I doubt upstream would have removed it.  zip:/ still works.09:30
ahmenioctan: linux-source doesn't have an arch, so the 386 will mess up your search09:30
caffeimore likely it's a maint decision, and if that's so, I'm dropping this dist. fast.09:30
vbgunzI am new to adept... I suspect that when I open it and enter the name of a package within the search bar and hit enter, the package should come back... or something, or anything right? nothing returns...09:30
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octanahmeni, so i just do sudo apt-get install linux-source then?09:30
ahmenioctan: yeah09:31
octanoki09:31
Hobbseecaffei: let me check that...09:31
Hobbseecaffei: there's nothing in the ubuntu/debian changelog about it...09:34
caffeiHobbsee, aye, I already checked them09:34
Tombuntuerm09:35
Tombuntuin adept if i choose to install koffice09:35
Tombuntuits like, 78k and doesnt bring anything with it09:35
Tombuntuthe libs and data are however already installed09:35
HobbseeTombuntu: koffice is a metapackage...so that would be correct...09:35
Hobbseeif you've already installed the data, it wouldnt try to download again09:36
Tombuntuok09:36
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Tombuntuthat didnt take long09:37
octanwhen i use synaptic and remove apps.. does it purge it too?09:37
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Hobbseeoctan: er, not usually...09:38
Hobbseeit's supposed to if you hit completely remove, i tihnk09:38
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caffeiHobbsee, someone in #kde just confirmed that it works in 3.5.2 on a non-ubuntu dist.  so it's most likely a kubuntu maint decision or a kubuntu bug...09:39
Hobbseehmmm okay09:41
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_matthi everyone09:52
_matteveryone looking forward to dapper09:53
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Bilfordno09:56
BilfordI already have it09:56
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Bilfordoh, he left09:56
BilfordIm going to try Kubuntu09:56
Bilfordfresh install09:57
omeowI wanted to try that too, but I can't seem to get it to install.09:59
omeowIt remains stuck at "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."09:59
Bilforddid you use the Dapper Live CD09:59
omeowThe DVD yeah.10:00
Bilfordwhats the difference between DVD and CD10:00
Bilfordsince CD is live and installable10:00
BilfordCD is probably more of a Live demo, DVD probably has more apps10:01
Bilfordfor Live10:01
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omeowNo you don't understand. The DVD has a Live part and an installation part.10:02
omeowYou can run both.10:02
Bilfordyou can do that with the CD10:03
omeowI'll download the CD and have a check then.10:03
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Bilfordwith the CD, you run it Live, and then install from inside the Live session10:05
caffeiHobbsee, fyi, kdeutils changelog for 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu2: "* Add kubuntu_09_hide_ark_part.diff, hide the mostly unused Ark part" >_>10:05
Hobbseecaffei: ah, thanks.  i didnt see that10:05
omeowBut there's an option on the boot screen that says install.10:06
omeowI tried the install icon inside the live session, but that doesn't work either, it stops responding after I select my language.10:06
Bilfordhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/10:07
BilfordPC (Intel x86) desktop CD10:07
omeowYeah, i'm downloading it now.10:07
BilfordDapper?10:07
omeowYes.10:07
BilfordI dont see a DVD for Dapper10:07
omeowhttp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/dvd/current/10:07
Bilfordno10:07
BilfordThats Breezy10:07
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omeowWhy does it says dapper on the filename then?10:07
Bilfordoh10:08
Bilfordwell, since you had a problem, maybe download from this link10:08
Bilfordhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/10:08
omeowYeah, I am downloading the install CD now.10:08
BilfordText-mode install?10:09
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Bilfordget the Desktop CD10:09
omeowI tried text-mode install too, but then it would hang at the same stage.10:09
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Bilfordthe first one10:09
Bilfordok10:09
omeowI'll see what the CD does.10:09
Bilfordthe Desktop CD one works good10:09
omeowO10:11
omeowerr.. I mean I'll see.10:11
omeowHow do you know that the DVD doesn't work? Is this info posted somewhere? I tried looking on the forum, but there seems to be no mention of it.10:11
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KDEfanboyanyone know how to turn on the RECORD extension in X ?10:29
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Bilford_Ok, time to try fresh install of Dapper Kubuntu10:31
KDEfanboyfound it10:32
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jrkhi - can someone test behavior in kate when editing big document (100kB) and pressing cursor key or backspace - in my case it behaves little bit incorrectly after releasing key (it continues doing deleting, moving cursor, ...)10:39
jrkalmost same behavior as in http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10372610:41
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omeowWill Kubuntu automaticly detect that I have two harddrives, the first one with Windows on it, and the second one being empty? Does it need any additional configuration if I also want to boot a harddrive with windows on it?10:51
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GazzaKit will detect both hard drives as long as the machines BIOS sees them10:52
GazzaKand you will need to install it as dual boot10:52
ririHi10:52
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ririi had a problem to install flight 7 and 6 (the same) when partionning the installation crash10:53
ririi want to manual partitioning10:54
ririso i can't install dapper from livecd10:54
GazzaKomeow, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=5376502 for more info, it should apply to Kubuntu as well, mostly10:54
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SkrotHi. Can I edit how "Document Title, Head 1, Head 2, Head 3" etc i supposed to look like in kword? E.g fontsize etc11:09
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bilfordOk, just did fresh install of Kubuntu11:14
bilfordlooks good11:15
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visik7bilford: breezy or dapper ?11:17
bilforddapper11:17
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bilforddoes Konversation have some way of adding most major serverss11:31
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bilforddownloading a server list11:32
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MrFaberhi all11:35
klerfaythi11:35
MrFaberI have problems with the blkid dev library in Dapper. I can't compile util-linux because it didn't find the lib while it is installed. What could be the problem?11:35
MrFaberhi klerfayt11:35
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klerfaytwhy is that so if I use for background single color then liquidweather has big fat black borders?11:39
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Kadranhi i have hsf modem and need to make it run in kubuntu, any help?11:46
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octanwhy dont i have /etc/ld.so.conf ??11:54
aloiseasyubuntu gives out rows of errors (just writes "error:") upon installing marked packages11:54
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aloisnot really debug-friendly11:56
Lynourealois: not an official part of ubuntu, either11:57
Lynourealois: It gives errors at least when installing flash, so makes sense to try without11:57
aloisI would like to make a suggestion: whenever it's refered to a third party non ubuntu-program/script in the wiki, mark this with a big fat warning sign.11:58
aloisokay11:58
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aloisalso with dma/hdparm -> errors11:59
aloisrest works12:00
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elijahhi12:02
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aloisok, something strange with nsplugin in konqueror now12:05
aloisnspluginviewer I mean12:05
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aloisjust crashes12:06
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elijahkubuntu is treated second-class citizen everywhere...12:10
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aloisi followed exactly these steps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Flash#head-575ec66438f2b4ac7f734f739fd97a703425cb7c12:15
aloisfirefox has flash now, but konqueror still not12:15
aloisand yes, I scanned for new plugins in konq12:15
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aloisI seem to have two, maybe they confront with each other: 1: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so 2: /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/libflashplayer.so12:18
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aloisare there hotkeys for acer aspire 3000? can't find them on wiki hotkeys12:24
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klerfaytI removed xchat from my system but it's still in the menu.12:31
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Garg321elwell, it's just a symlink :)12:32
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klerfaythow do I update menu?12:32
klerfayt(without logging out)12:32
Garg321eli think there is a kmenu-editor..12:33
klerfayterr12:33
klerfaytwhy doesn't menu update itself? why I need to log out?12:33
Garg321elright click on K menu button12:33
Garg321elyou don't12:33
Garg321elbecause when you say "remove" not every programm removes everything12:34
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Garg321ellol http://ds.serving-sys.com/BurstingRes/Site-1418/Type-0/9E62D8E0-437B-444D-B434-FDB31709E465.jpg12:38
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klerfaytIs it possible to display date and time vertically then kicker is placed on the right or left side of the screen?12:41
Garg321elacer aspire 3000 is a real bitch under linux :(12:41
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visik7Garg321el: almost all new acer are assholes with linux12:58
visik7they change the acpi code12:58
visik7and we need to recompile it12:58
Garg321elvisik7: damn :(12:58
klerfaytis it intentional?12:58
klerfaytwhy the do it?12:58
visik7dunno if for linux12:58
visik7but yes it change it intentionally12:58
klerfaythow they change the acpi code?12:58
klerfaytlike "break it" ?12:59
klerfaytI got mitac and it doesn't have available info about my lcd screen for xorg12:59
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visik7they change the dsdt code01:01
visik7putting it out of specifics01:01
visik7dunno why01:02
visik7ask to acer not to me01:02
klerfaytthey got something to hide?01:02
klerfaythow do I know if I got correct acpi code?01:03
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visik7acpi works ?01:05
klerfaytwell I haven't tested suspend on ubuntu but freq. scaling works01:06
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LeeJunFanklerfayt: suspend to ram doesn't work for me with dapper, but vanillla home-compiled kern is fine.01:07
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klerfaytok I got this message in dmesg "ACPI: Looking for DSDT ... not found!" - is it serious?01:08
r0xzMy CRT screen doesn't start anymore. Is there a way i can configure kubuntu for an old 1024 resolution screen without terminating the already running programmes?01:10
LeeJunFanklerfayt: have you read the ACPI how-to? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/ACPI-HOWTO/index.html01:11
roniezheheh u can use like freenx :P01:12
roniezbut then it will just open new "windows" and not use the already existing one.01:12
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r0xzanyone with tips?01:20
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augustkhello all01:21
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visik7klerfayt: no01:29
visik7is ok01:29
visik7if buttons and other things works01:29
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Al-Dajahi01:35
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Al-Dajai want to install windows in this pc, what you advise  partition on the disc or a new disc?01:36
OlliKAl-Daja: if you can do it, a new disk would be a good idea01:37
OlliKAl-Daja: but partitioning is not problem if you just have space for it01:37
Al-DajaOlliK, how can i do a partiton disk with kubuntu01:37
OlliKAl-Daja: but remember, Windows cannot read ext3 partitions so you should have one FAT32 partition if you want to share files between linux and windows01:37
Al-DajaOlliK,  any idea?01:38
OlliKAl-Daja: I have WindowsXP, which has 25GB partition, then Linux with 20GB partition and a shared FAT32 "storage" partition which both of the operating systems can read and write01:38
OlliKAl-Daja: yes, I used one partitioning program of knoppix linux, wait I'll check what was it01:39
OlliKAl-Daja: I booted the PC with live-knoppix-cd and with that partitioning was easy01:39
OlliKqtparted I think01:40
OlliKwith that it was very easy to resize and create partitions01:40
OlliKmaybe there is qtparted with Kubuntu also, if not, then you can probably install it just like this: sudo apt-get install qtparted01:41
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OlliKBut resizing of the linux partition might not be possible while you are using it, so that's why it's a good idea to have one Knoppix linux live-cd always for situations like this, because you can boot with it without installing anything01:42
OlliKMaybe someone more experienced on the channel can tell whether it is possible to resize a partition that is being used at the same time.. but I think probably not01:43
OlliKremember to use scandisk and some defragmentation program before resizing / partitioning01:44
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Al-Dajaok thx OlliK01:51
KDEfanboyOlliK: if you tried real hard, probably force it, but i have never seen anyone, ever, suggest anything but working on unmounted partitions01:51
Al-DajaKDEfanboy, any sugestion tha tjat work better?01:52
House_MDyou can resize reiserfs when mounted, and with ext3 , only with a patch, and only grow not shrink01:52
Tombuntuis there an iScroll2  type program for linux01:53
KDEfanboyAl-Daja: doing what exactly?01:54
Al-DajaKDEfanboy, to do a partition on the disk01:54
KDEfanboyyou just want to partition the disk and that's it?01:55
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KDEfanboywell, qtparted or cfidsk is nice01:58
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Tombuntui was aobut to say qtparted01:58
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Tombuntuone time in debian i was able to make winkey+l lock linux01:59
Tombuntuin kde of all things02:00
Tombuntuand i cant figure out how i did it02:00
Tombuntuoh no winkey doesnt make the kmenu pop up :(02:00
OlliKqtparted is the best and simple program to do resizing/partitioning02:01
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KDEfanboyhmm is qtparted missing the resize features listed here? http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/features.en.html02:03
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OlliKKDEfanboy: It shouldnt be missing those. I have resized FAT32 / NTFS / ext3 with qtparted02:04
OlliKor at least it was FAT32 and NTFS, I'm not exactly sure whether I needed to resize ext302:04
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KDEfanboyahh. i did have problems when installing kubuntu with qtparted not reading an ntfs size correctly and i didn't trust it to do it right so went to the command line. it may have just been that the file system was not checked at the time02:05
OlliKyap. for me it worked perfectly02:06
OlliKI did scandisk and defrag before trying qtparted02:06
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mhterresmorning02:13
MenZaMorning.02:14
Samuli^morning.02:15
mhterres:-)02:15
MenZaWhoa02:16
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_JuDgEn_is there any way to have both videooverlay and opengloverlay worging at the same time with fglrx?02:18
_JuDgEn_also, how do i get x to recognize my keyboard properly02:19
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simonI have a question about telnet - any experts?02:38
simonI have installed telnetd but I cant connect to the server?02:38
simonhow do I start the program?02:38
Hobbseesimon: telnet serveraddresshere.com port#02:38
simonthat is the client..  I try to connect to my self but it says "Connection refused"02:39
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Hobbseeoh okay02:39
simonI want to know how to start the telnet server..telnetd..02:39
simonand I cant find any config files for telnetd either..02:39
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visik7telnet ?!?!?!?!02:40
visik7TELNET ?02:40
visik7we are in 200602:40
visik7use ssh02:40
simonI cant use ssh on my laptop which can only use telnet, because it is packet radio ..02:41
Xemanth^^^packed radio ?02:41
simon?02:42
simonI just want to use telnet instead of ssh..02:42
Xemanth^^^what do you mean by packet radio02:42
visik7Xemanth^^^: vim /etc/inetd.conf02:42
Xemanth^^^visik7: ? :D02:42
simonxemanth: packet modems .. baud 120002:42
Xemanth^^^hmm-m ok :)02:43
simoncant I use telnet in kubuntu? is it too old?02:43
simonI can ONLY use telnet.. so I really really need to get it working!02:43
simonBut it just says "Connection refused" and I dont even know about the telnetd server is up or not..02:44
dr3asrun ps aux |grep telnet02:44
dr3asand see if something is show'n02:44
simonsimon@simonlinux:~$ ps aux |grep telnet02:45
simonsimon     4435  0.0  0.1   2932   840 pts/2    R+   14:46   0:00 grep telnet02:45
simonsimon@simonlinux:~$02:45
simonI think there is something running..02:45
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dr3asno, nothing is running02:45
simonah02:45
dr3as2 sec, just trying it myself02:45
simonokay02:45
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dr3asthe only file i found was /usr/sbin/in.telnetd02:47
dr3asbut it didn't help to run that either02:47
simonokay..hmm..02:47
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[CoN] bLuENeu02:48
dr3astry read /usr/share/doc/telnetd/README.gz02:48
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simonit says there is no directory/folder there is called that..only /telnet but not /telnetd02:49
Tallia1Kubuntuhi there02:49
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simonah..now there is..02:49
Tallia1Kubuntui was just wandering if it exists a way of having mplayer play the movie in fullscreen but on the desktop... that is drawing the movie in the desktop background02:49
visik7I'm trying to understand why someone wuold (don't) see a movie on the desktop background02:51
visik7I can't understand02:51
Tallia1Kubuntubecause i want to see the movie while doing something else02:51
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visik7but if you are doing something else how can u watch the movie ?02:51
visik7is not like listen to music02:51
Tallia1Kubuntuand if i am in fullscreen with mplayer, it is on top too02:51
Tallia1Kubuntui can..02:52
visik7wow02:52
simoni have read the readme.gz now, and there is nothing I can use..02:52
Tallia1Kubuntu:) anyway, do you know a way?02:52
simononly that I may need to compile the package by myself :o02:52
simonbut I dont know where I get the file..02:53
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visik7Tallia1Kubuntu: anyway -guiwid02:53
Tallia1Kubuntuis it a mplayer option?02:54
Tallia1Kubuntuit is :)02:54
visik7yes02:54
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SeantaterAbyone here use digikam?02:55
Seantatera/Aby/Any02:55
Tallia1Kubuntuvisik7: do you know the details on how to use it? from the man pages i can't really figure out..02:58
visik7probably u need to get the id of the root window02:58
Tallia1Kubuntuparticularly it seems more related to browsers.. i thaught that the number was the X window number02:58
Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i get it?02:58
visik7and pass it to mplayer02:58
visik7xwininfo02:58
visik7probably02:58
visik7never used02:59
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Tallia1Kubuntuhaah, how do you know this command if you never used it?03:00
Tallia1Kubuntui tried with the WindowId given by xwininfo but it doesn't work, mplayer tells me that is a wrong window ID03:01
simonnone? :(03:03
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simonnobody there can help me with telnet ?:/03:03
Tallia1Kubuntunope, never used03:04
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Tallia1Kubuntuhow to search inside a MAN page?03:16
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a combination key? i have to find a string in it03:16
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Tallia1Kubuntulike rootwin in the mplayer man page03:16
rushi all03:17
rusprinter trouble03:17
rusused to work03:17
rusHP Laserjet 6l03:17
rusnow prints blank pages03:17
rusone after the other03:17
rushelp me please )03:17
bertCan you do a test page from the printer?03:18
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rushardware you mean?03:18
bertpress the button on the printer for a few seconds and it will print a test page03:19
bertdoesn't even have to be connect to a computer03:19
bertif that doesn't work you are out of toner or have a fault in the cartridge03:20
rusi'm working on it - but i dont think thats it03:21
bertcan you print a test page?03:22
visik7Tallia1Kubuntu: ok u need to disable icons on desktop03:23
visik7Tallia1Kubuntu: to get mplayer draw on it03:23
Tallia1Kubuntuwhy?03:23
CaBlGuY-Gonebbl kiddies.  ;o)03:23
Tallia1Kubuntui found out that i have to use something like03:23
visik7kdesktop writes on root window and mplayer should write on it too03:23
Tallia1Kubuntumplayer -vo x11 -rootwin VIDEO.avi03:24
visik7mplayer -vo xv -wid "0x3b" video.avi03:24
Tallia1Kubuntubut i still can't see anything :(03:24
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Tallia1Kubuntucan you see anything with -rootwin?03:25
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rusbert: nope so far not03:26
rusjus keeps dooing some crap03:26
visik7Tallia1Kubuntu: without kdesktop running yes03:26
bertif you can't print a test page from the printer button then it is out of toner03:26
Tallia1Kubuntui see, is there a way to have icons and kdesktop showed togheter on the desktop?03:27
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rusbut a laser printer does not go out of tober over night03:27
visik7icons and kdesktop run toghether on the desktop03:27
rusi'm the only one that uses it03:27
russo it's not it03:28
Tallia1Kubuntuvisik7: so? there's a  way to have video and kdestop+icons?03:28
rusmay still be the printer thought03:28
bertdoes it print a test page? yes or no03:28
Tallia1Kubuntueven with -wid you said that i have to turn off kdesktop03:28
visik7I don't thing so but u'll be luckyer on #lde03:28
visik7#kde03:29
troyg'day folks03:30
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rusbert: nope it's spitting out paper just that03:30
bertwell then it is out of toner or something wrong with the cartridge03:31
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berttake out the cartridge and tap it a few times against a hard surface, then try to print again03:32
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jjesseis there a program like hyperterminal in windows that i can use to connect to my cisco routers via the management cable?03:36
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jrkvmware ;)03:36
jjessejrk: was that a response to me?03:37
bimberijjesse: minicom03:37
jjessesimple apt-get install minicom?03:37
koshminicom works I have used it to connect to a cisco 675 and 678 however I have not played with that in a long time03:37
bimberijjesse: yep (with sudo of course)03:38
jjessebimberi: of course :)  thanks kosh as well03:38
bimberi:)03:38
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composerHii03:41
koshhmm guess he did not want to stick around03:42
jjesse:)03:42
MenZalol03:42
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klerfaytis xset m 1 1 same as xset m 1 3 ?03:52
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ReonI need help. having problems installing VMWare Server. Pastebi-  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1412103:54
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bpmhello03:56
bpmcan anybody help me to connect to a cisco vpn concentrator?03:57
morrowapt-get install vpnc03:58
morrowyou can also try kvpnc as a gui to vpnc03:59
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bpmvpnc is not able to connect via tcp04:01
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bpmi installed the client from cisco04:01
bpmbut it wont work04:02
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_JuDgEn_wich renderers do i need to have working to be able to use opengl screensavers?04:03
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bpmhttp://pastebin.com/72062304:04
bpmthis is the output i get on the console04:04
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nox-HandHey04:10
MetaMorfoziShi all04:10
nox-HandHow would I go about changing the boot screen thing? (( the Kubuntu image when I boot ))   How would I change that to an own image or something?04:10
MetaMorfoziSi have downloaded the koraa xgl packages cd04:11
MetaMorfoziSand i has mounted it04:11
MetaMorfoziShow can i intall it?04:11
MetaMorfoziS(I'M using kubuntu breeezy)04:11
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wasp_emshello..i have a problem..whenever a leave my computer for a while withoun doing anything on it then it just freezes and there is nothing i can do..any help?04:16
nox-HandNo idea, mate.04:17
wasp_emsdo u know if msn can be istalled?04:18
MetaMorfoziSwasp_ems: do you need an msn client?04:20
wasp_emsi want to install msn cause of the games etc it has which are not supported by any other client..i think04:20
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Hobbseewasp_ems: to do that, you'd probably need wine.  i dont know if msn messenger runs under wine04:21
MetaMorfoziSno, all of the spare functions (that the shit messenger supports) are not supported04:22
MetaMorfoziSthank goodness:)04:22
wasp_emsyeah04:22
Hobbseeheh04:22
Hobbseealthough we did get a nudge function :D04:22
MetaMorfoziSbut the usable functions are yes, so you may try some client, amsn, or my favourite: kopete04:22
MetaMorfoziSwww.kopete.kde.org or #kopete04:22
Hobbseebut ours is nowhere near as annoying as the msn messenger client ones!04:22
MetaMorfoziS^^ yes, some shit are integrated04:22
wasp_emsi have kopete04:23
HobbseeMetaMorfoziS: language, thanks04:23
wasp_emsbut i also have a problem in that04:23
wasp_emscause me web cam does not work either04:23
wasp_emseverything just freezes04:23
MetaMorfoziShas you correctly installed webcam driver?04:23
wasp_emsi think i have not installed one04:23
MetaMorfoziSis your webcam works fine?04:23
MetaMorfoziSbecause if it damaged04:23
MetaMorfoziSit can freeze your machine04:24
MetaMorfoziSi think about the damaged usb port, cable or etc.04:24
MetaMorfoziSmy english is bad, sry.04:24
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MetaMorfoziSis your webcam plugged in?04:24
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wasp_emsyes04:26
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MetaMorfoziStry unplugg,and test 2-3 days04:27
MetaMorfoziSif it isn't freezes, the problem is in your wcam04:27
wasp_emswell basicall when i try to setup it up through kopete it all freezes04:28
MetaMorfoziSi dunno about webcam setup...04:28
wasp_emson np04:29
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Hobbseewasp_ems: this dapper or breezy?04:31
nox-HandAnyone?04:31
wasp_emsbreezy04:31
Hobbsee!tell nox-Hand about usplash04:32
Hobbseewasp_ems: right, i thought that patch was backported to breezy... with kde 3.5, i take it?04:32
nox-HandHobbsee, 0_o *googles*04:32
wasp_emsyep04:32
Hobbseenox-Hand: see your private message from ubotu04:33
nox-HandHobbsee, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto Thanks a lot, yoiu got me on track :D04:33
Hobbsee:)04:33
rusbert: it's definetly the printer - the test page turns into two blank pages then it stops with all the lights on and no response - the printer is an old piece of junk04:33
wasp_emscan someone guide me through on how to install a bootsplash and a window decoration..cause i have forgotten how to04:34
Hobbsee!+bootsplash04:34
ubotuHobbsee: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:34
Samuli^!usplash04:35
ubotuhmm... usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto04:35
Hobbseea window decoration is through system settings, i thoguht04:35
Samuli^do you mean that or kde splash screen?04:35
Samuli^yeah, they're all really easy to find.04:35
Samuli^system (or) settings and appearance04:36
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wasp_emsis usplash used for bootsplash?04:38
sladenwasp_ems: "yes"04:38
wasp_emsok thanx04:38
sladenwasp_ems: and does "window decoration" mean "theme?"04:38
wasp_emsno04:38
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wasp_emswell maybe04:39
Hobbseewasp_ems: that's all controlled in system settings, appearance04:39
wasp_emsyeah i know..but when u download a new window decoration u are supposed to install it someway..last time i think i had to compile it04:40
Hobbseea lot are in the repos...for dapper, at least04:40
klerfaytin gnome you just drag the file; in kde you need to install dev. libraries...04:40
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slow-motionhallo04:43
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bartoshi there04:44
klerfaytok this is odd why is default cache size in konqueror 5120 KB?04:44
wasp_emswhen i try and run part 2 of the usplash it does not work..the commands get an eror04:44
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bartosi just instaled kubuntu 6.06,and i have no icons on desktop, is this a known issue??:)04:45
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sladenwasp_ems: what error04:46
wasp_emsi think i am doing it wrong..i have to type the name of the image there where it says yourimage.png right?04:46
sladenklerfayt: it's 5MB...04:47
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sladenklerfayt: 5120 = 5 * 102404:47
sladenbartos: there are no icons on the desktop...  The desktop is there for you to clutter up with your own files04:47
wasp_emssladen ny help?04:48
bartossladen, but there should be at aleast 'Home' directory icon..isn't it?04:49
sladenbartos: no..04:49
bartossladen, it's kde not xfce04:50
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sladenwasp_ems: yes, of course you have to replace 'yourimage.png' with the name of your own image04:50
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_itahi all .. i need to work from home tomorrow via vpn .. i use (according to my adept) openssh-client .. should i install "openssh-server" to be able to get on my machine tomorrow ?!04:51
sladenbartos: Kubuntu and Ubuntu both come with clean, neat, empty desktops.  That's one of the things that makes them special04:51
sladenbartos: the desktop is your workspace and you are free to fill it with the things you would like most.  If you would like a home folder on it, then put one on it... but it's not that useful because if you have any applications open, you can't actually get to the desktop...04:52
bartossladen then i use 'show desktop'applet04:53
_itastrg-alt-d ftw04:53
pradeepto!skype04:56
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ubotuwell, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/04:56
bartoshow can i run another instace of kde session?04:57
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Hobbseebartos: kmenu, switch user, new session04:59
Hobbseehi Kyral_ with a tail04:59
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bartosanother question, does amaroK play mp3s by default?05:06
bartosi quess not05:06
Hobbseebartos: not without the codecs05:06
Hobbseebartos: breezy or dapper?05:06
Hobbsee!+restricted05:06
uboturestricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats05:06
bartosdapper05:06
Hobbseegrab libxine-extracodecs05:06
bartostnx05:06
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wasp_emsi want to compile something..i have installed build-essential and kdelibs4-dev..what do i do now..something with ./05:10
robotgeek!compile05:10
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)05:10
Hobbsee!+compile05:10
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)05:10
robotgeekHobbsee: haha, faster :)05:11
Hobbseei blame the aussie lag...05:11
wasp_emsthanx05:11
robotgeeki think cause you had the +05:11
Hobbseeyeah, probably05:11
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r0xzis there a way to get an old monitor connected with kubuntu on a already installed OS without destroying my monitor (i got a very high beeb when i bootted)05:14
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r0xzhow do i get in terminal from boot? So that i can reconfigure xserver-xorg my my screen?05:17
r0xz*for05:17
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h3sp4wnr0xz: Select recovery mode from grub05:17
h3sp4wnr0xz: Press escape pretty quickly (I think the default timeout is 3 seconds)05:17
r0xzh3sp4wn: i tried that, but that goes until something about doing ipv6 in ipv4 mode, it just hangs there05:18
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r0xzi'll try without a cable in my eth1 card..05:19
h3sp4wnr0xz: press ctl alt f1 (without the screen plugged in) then plug it in (unless you have changed the vga=line manually)05:19
derekSif my crontab entry is "0 0 1 * * command" will it happen on the first of every month?05:20
robotgeekderekS: you can use kcron :)05:21
derekSrobotgeek: i am not at the comp now05:21
derekSsshing in05:21
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derekSand i try to use my box headless as much as possible05:21
robotgeekderekS: hmm, then man crontab :)05:22
derekSrobotgeek: i did, i jsut want to make sure, before it runs wild :)05:22
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robotgeekderekS: you can use @monthly05:22
derekSrobotgeek: you want to make the entry in kcron and see if it converts to what i said?05:22
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derekS@monthly?05:23
robotgeekderekS: yeah, "man 5 crontab"05:23
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h3sp4wnderekS: thats at 0:00 on the first of every month (what you said)05:23
derekSrobotgeek: thanks05:23
derekSh3sp4wn: beautiful05:23
derekSthanks05:23
derekSi would have been sad if it turned out that it really did once every 30 seconds or something05:24
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[CoN] bLuENeu05:29
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r0xzthanks h3sp4wn, it worked out fine without an ethernet cable in system. Up to buy a new monitor (i love the sound of that ;) )05:30
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Bizzehhey05:32
Bizzehim thinking of making a switch from gentoo to kubuntu05:32
Bizzehhow is kubuntu at dealing with smp05:32
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Bizzehand, can i recompile kubuntu if i felt like it05:33
robotgeekBizzeh: i think there are smp kernels avaialbe05:33
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Carbon_MonoxideHello05:35
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Carbon_MonoxideAnyone here has been shifted from Gnome to KDE?05:36
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wasp_emsbecause for some reason everything is starting to freeze..is there any program or code i can use in order to check my system and fix any errors it might have..05:37
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lwizardlwhat does a filename listed in green with a * in front mean?05:38
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evert_hello , how can i see or the 'nv' driver or the 'nvidia' driver is used at the moment ?05:38
wasp_emskonqueror seems to have a problem also05:39
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dergringohi05:40
bleakedevert_: well, you can check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what the driver setting says..or unless you've disabled it, when you start X, there's an nvidia logo that flashes.  (there's probably a better way to find out, but that's all i, for one, know)05:40
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EvilIdlerevert_: glxinfo05:41
evert_ok , but just restarting x (control ald backspace) isn't enough to make the nvidia drivers working ?05:41
evert_i'm still running nv , grr hate drivers :(05:42
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EvilIdlerevert_: It should be, if you've changed the config and loaded the kernel module05:42
evert_i'm trying it :)05:43
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wasp_emscan anyone help me??05:43
wasp_emskonqueror is all the time freezing05:44
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dergringowasp_ems:  what kubuntu, what hardware?05:44
wasp_emswhat do u mena?05:44
wasp_emsmean05:44
wasp_emsbreezy05:45
dergringowasp_ems: do you use breezy or dapper?05:45
dergringok05:45
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dergringowasp_ems: since when do you have this problem? is this a fresh installation?05:45
wasp_emsyes i just re installed it all05:46
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dergringowasp_ems: did you have this problem before?05:46
wasp_emskopete does not open either now..05:46
wasp_emsno05:46
dergringowasp_ems: have you done the updates?05:46
wasp_emseverytime i re install it i get a new problem05:46
wasp_emsye05:46
wasp_emss05:46
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dergringowasp_ems: hmm what about your hardware? something exotic?05:47
wasp_emsno..i do not think so05:47
wasp_emscause the previous times i did not have such problem05:47
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dergringowasp_ems: so reinstalled and just after installation you had this problem?05:48
wasp_emsthe other problem that i get is that if i leave my pc for a while everything just freezes and there is nothing i can do..plus it shows that the hard drive is running allot when that occurs05:48
wasp_emswell after i updated and upgraded05:48
wasp_emsslowly slowly new problems arrose05:49
dergringowasp_ems: upgraded from what to what?05:49
wasp_emskde 3.4.3 to 3                                                  .5305:49
wasp_ems3.5.205:49
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kunghi05:50
dergringowasp_ems: how did you do that? using a deb-file or by self-compiling?05:50
wasp_emsi have re installed it all 3 times from yesterday05:50
kungwhere can I find the .config used for the default kernel?05:50
wasp_emsi changed the repos and upgraded05:50
dergringowasp_ems: hmm why don't you upgrade to dapper?05:50
wasp_emsis it better?05:50
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dergringowasp_ems: it is up to date and stable in my oppinion05:51
dergringowasp_ems: i am using it right now05:51
wasp_emsi really do not know the difference..i decided to change from windows to linux and since then i am alsways getting some trouble05:51
dergringowasp_ems: my tip: use dapper you will be happy :)05:52
wasp_emsit is quite annoying cause whenever i re install i get a new problem05:52
wasp_emsok how do i do that?05:52
Carbon_MonoxideI would like to ask a silly question here05:52
dergringowasp_ems: you can do a dist upgrade to dapper or download the cd image (recommended)05:52
wasp_emsoh..if i download the cd image i will have to re install everything right?05:53
Carbon_MonoxideWould apps like gDesklet run when I have both KDE and Gnome?05:53
dergringowasp_ems: yes i'd do so05:53
wasp_emsoh..05:53
wasp_ems:(05:53
dergringoCarbon_Monoxide: yes05:53
wasp_emsi have done the whole process 3 times till yesterday:(05:54
dergringowasp_ems: or you can do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" after changing your sources to dapper05:54
Carbon_MonoxideI made it run on startup. So, the gDesklet would run on startup even when I start with KDE?05:54
wasp_emsso instead of breezy  i write dapper?05:54
dergringowasp_ems: i am looking for an easy tutorial... it is not a big thing05:55
wasp_emsbut is that not what i must do?just put in place of the word breezy dapper?05:56
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dergringowasp_ems: pastebin your sources please05:57
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wasp_emsok05:57
dergringo!pastebin05:57
ubotumethinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126905:57
wasp_emsdergringo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1412505:58
wasp_emsis there not something like chkdsk in linux?05:58
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wasp_emswhat is kded?05:59
Kadranwasp_ems: this is dos and linux counterpart commands http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html05:59
dergringowasp_ems: remove this line: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main. then replace alle breezy with dapper05:59
wasp_emsok06:00
wasp_emsdergringo: kded seems to have a problem06:00
dergringowasp_ems: open console and type: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst"06:01
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wasp_emsdergringo: and then??it just shows me gnu nano 1.3.8 file: /etc/apt/sources.l06:02
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wasp_emsdergringo: shall i just do it through kwrite?06:03
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dergringowasp_ems: oh i am sorry the file is called "sources.list" not .lst06:03
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Carbon_Monoxidehow is the size of the package if I use "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"?06:08
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dergringoCarbon_Monoxide: do it and the file size will be displayed but i think about 100Mb... after installation about 300Mb06:09
Carbon_MonoxideI was asking because I have to estimate the download time it needs06:10
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r0xzHi guys, when i run an app in debug modus, i get X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15406:14
r0xzand there's no debug anymore06:14
r0xzIs this dapper related?06:14
wasp_emsis there a site that tells u the commands for extracting tar.gz and bz2 files?06:14
wasp_emsi had one but lost it06:14
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r0xzbecause i am not the only person on dapper with this problem, afaik06:15
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wasp_emsok found it06:16
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r0xzcould anyone test or verify?06:18
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wasp_emswhere can i download games for kubuntu?06:23
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omeowWhat's the eta on dapper? Two weeks estimate?06:26
MeTa[AwAy] who has installed xgl on breezy06:28
MeTa[AwAy] ?06:28
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EvilIdlerwasp_ems: You can find free games in the repository most of the time, and pointers at linuxgames.com and happypenguin.org06:35
EvilIdlerwasp_ems: There are also some games for sale at GarageGames.com06:36
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MetaMorfoziSwasp_ems: check: ut2004 , armagetron, ut99, quake, cod, doom3, and others check loki installers06:38
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EvilIdlerwasp_ems: icculus.org should have a guide to getting America's Army running, too06:38
metalheddwhats new in adept with the latest dapper updates?06:39
MetaMorfoziSwasp_ems: http://www.liflg.org/ <-- this team created installer for a lot of games (ut2k4 doom3 and others) check it!06:40
wasp_emsthanx allot06:41
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Bizzehhey06:42
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Bizzehi keep getting "error: unsupported archutecture" when trying to install the xorg ati drivers on x6406:42
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inc|freakyhm, bizzeh is fast ;D06:46
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wasp_emswhen u open the kasbar..what does the second window show..under the time?06:52
mlehreranyone using dual screens on kubuntu?06:53
MetaMorfoziSanybody please help me, i wan't install xgl on my kubuntu breezy06:53
MetaMorfoziSmlehrer: i'm used it for 45 minutes06:54
MetaMorfoziSwith a projector, and nvidia card06:54
MetaMorfoziSwhy?06:54
omeowWhat's the eta on dapper stable? Someone said something like two weeks.06:54
mlehreri'm just wondering how well it works these days06:54
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mlehreromeow: i thought it was coming in mid june06:55
MetaMorfoziSmlehrer: yes it's very easy06:55
mlehrerMetaMorfoziS: e.g. can window managers deal with it, is it easy to move windows between two screens with different resolutions06:55
omeowOh ok. Would you happen to know anything about DVD issues where it won't start the installation?06:55
mlehrerwill screen savers choke on it06:55
mlehrerthose are the 3 problems i had with it before06:56
MetaMorfoziSis you use "Twinview"?06:56
mlehrerwhat is that06:56
MetaMorfoziSin xorg.conf06:57
MetaMorfoziSthis is a function that enales twinmonitor06:57
MetaMorfoziS!twinview06:57
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS06:57
MetaMorfoziS...06:57
MetaMorfoziSgoogle forit06:58
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Pokerhow is it possible to close the X-server07:01
Poker?07:01
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wasp_emsi have an error..."service '/usr/share/applications/kde/kfmclient_dir.desktop' is malformed" anyone know what i can do?07:03
wasp_emsor what caused it?07:04
Johncro13sorry, Wasp.  i'm clueless.07:07
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Bizzehhey, i got the latest amd64 k8 smp kernel, and when i try and install ati binary drivers, it says i dont have the correct linux source, even though i have the source for the 2.6.12-10 kernel (which is what mine is)07:09
Bizzehanyone any idea whats going wrong07:10
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dergringowhen I try to extract an icon-archiv directly to /usr/share/icons/hicolor, arc tells me that the folders 16x16, 32x32, etc. already exist. How I can I extract them to this place?07:12
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Bizzehhow do i create the linux link to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/07:17
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MetaMorfoziSPoker: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop07:17
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HymnToLifeBizzeh> sudo ln -s /path/to/trget /parth/to/link07:18
triceratopsAny Idea why the konqueror profiles are gone in dapper?07:18
scubes13hello everyone - question, how do I do a workstation install of breezy and have it not install anything related to a laptop?07:18
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scubes13whoops, this isnt the breezy channel, is it....07:19
scubes13?07:19
HymnToLifeyes it is07:19
scubes13ok - lol07:19
scubes13blonde moment07:19
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scubes13I just did two fresh installs of breezy on an Epox EP-9GF6100-M board, and each time I reboot, the system hangs at "Checking battery state"07:21
nox-HandEvilIdler, You like Fear Factory?07:22
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EvilIdlernox-Hand: It's OK, although I'm purging with Suicide Commando right now ;)07:23
nox-Hand(( well, British, just living in Denmark, but meh ))07:23
nox-HandEvilIdler, MIght I ask what that means? ;)07:23
EvilIdlernox-Hand: What what means?07:23
nox-HandPurging with Suicide Commando ;)07:24
EvilIdlerPurging bad nationalistic songs ;)07:24
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nox-HandAh.07:26
nox-HandI always did hate that song ;)07:26
nox-HandSo purge it from history, please, while you are at it07:26
Johncro13q: does flight 7 include all updates up to its release date?07:27
triceratopsWhy is nobody assigned to Bug #45004 (Konqueror profiles)?07:28
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gili need some help with superskaramba?07:29
gilcan anyone help me?07:29
milianhello, how do I change the icon size on my desktop?07:32
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milianaw, kcontrol ... found it07:34
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apolsomeone knows how macbooks run kubuntu?07:41
evert_hello all ,i'm having a little problem with amarok on dapper drake07:41
evert_i get the error : /usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: invalid ELF header ... does somebody know how to fix it ? an hour ago it just worked fine .. in the time i (tried) to install nvidia drivers , but that failed07:42
apolevert_: its a libGL problem, not an amarok problem07:43
apoland it is caused by the nvidia installation you failed07:43
evert_so how can i fix the libGL problem07:43
apolbecause they substitute the file07:43
evert_ok , but how can i fix it ?07:43
apolit deppends on how you have installed the driver07:44
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apoltry reinstalling libgl1-mesa07:44
evert_I did it this way ( method 2) http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper07:44
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evert_i'm reinstalling libgl1-mesa07:45
apolfine07:45
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evert_but can you help me with my nvidia drivers ?07:46
evert_the link i gave , i tried both method 1 and 2 but they both failed :(07:46
DonvinzkHi, I would like to switch from gdm to kdm, by hand07:46
apolI'm not using an nvidia07:46
Donvinzkwhich file should I edit07:46
evert_lucky you07:46
DonvinzkI can not remember07:46
apolDonvinzk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm07:46
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Donvinzkapol07:47
evert_thx , apol my Amarok works back again :)07:47
Donvinzkthanks07:47
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apol:)07:47
apolyou're both welcomed07:47
Donvinzkapol you're the man07:47
Donvinzk:-)07:47
apolhehe07:47
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evert_i'm new to linux (since a week of 2) i do like it :) ... I only need to get the nvidia drivers working .. then i don't need to windows any more :)07:48
apolI see07:48
apolI installed nvidia drivers some time ago07:48
apolit is much easier than ati BTW07:48
apolxDD07:48
apolyou can install it from apt AFAIK07:49
apollet me see07:49
apolyou have the modules on apt07:49
evert_Yes i know , On a system of a friend (also with nvidia) i didn't gave problems .. but on my system it won't go all right07:49
evert_i tried that already07:49
evert_but it fails07:49
apolI'm sorry but I don't think i can help you07:50
apolperhaps you'll find your answer in the wiki07:50
apolthere is a lot of info right there07:50
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nbdysomeone knows how to move directory with sub-dirs?07:50
evert_I did all the things in the wiki , none of them worked for me :(07:50
apolmv dirtomove destination07:51
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vicksmy katapult always stops working after the first restart after kubuntu install (dapper). anyone knows whats up with this?07:51
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nbdyapol: it always prints "Cant overwrite xy"07:52
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nbdyeven with -f07:53
Bizzehhey, when i "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12" how come it doesnt extract and create the linux dir for me?07:53
apolnbdy: must be a privilege error07:53
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omegaWhat' s the default root password on an installation?07:54
omegaI didn't get to set a password on install.07:54
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apolomega: there is no root password07:54
apolyou must use sudo07:54
apol!sudo07:54
ubotusomebody said sudo was a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.07:54
Bizzehcan someone trigger how to install ati binary drivers07:55
simpcan amaroK play MP3?07:55
omegaBut kde asks me for a password when I want to add packages.07:55
apolsimp: only with the right codecs07:55
r0xzomega: use your own password07:55
simpapol: where can i get the codecs?07:56
apolapt07:56
omegaOh ok.07:56
apolyou need multiverse repositories07:56
omegaIs there any way to get KDE to remember my password whenever I want to install packages?07:56
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kmonanyone knows if the packages from kubuntu.de are in german only?07:58
nox-HandWhat command should I use to get the full gnome desktop?07:58
nox-Handsudo apt-get install gnome-desktop << is that enough?07:58
kmonnox-Hand: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?07:58
nox-Handkmon, Ah, yes. Thanks =)07:58
kmonno problem07:59
nox-Handkmon, Hey, does ubuntu desktop use GNOME 2.14?07:59
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nox-HandOr earlier?07:59
nox-HandNah, no matter. forget it07:59
kmonare you using dapper?07:59
nox-HandBBL, after install07:59
nox-Handkmon, I am not using dapper08:00
nox-HandI am on the stable08:00
nox-HandWill do the upgrade when the new comes out08:00
kmonthen you'll have gnome 2.1208:01
r0xzomega: not that i know off, sudo needs a user to enter his/her password afaik08:01
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omegaSo everything that's launched via KDE that requires root acces is actually piped via sudo?08:02
simpwhat port does the dapper(ubuntu) torrent client use by default or how to change it?08:03
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Bizzehhow do i enable universe from text mode08:04
LynoureBizzeh: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and then uncomment the line for it08:05
Bizzeh<308:06
Bizzeh:)08:06
LynoureBizzeh: :)08:07
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Bizzehdo i need to run anything like apt-get update ?08:07
kmonomega: via kdesu08:08
Bizzeh(im new to kubuntu)08:08
apolBizzeh: yes08:08
kmonBizzeh: anytime you change your sources.list you need to refresh them via: sudo apt-get update08:08
omegakmon: Would this mean that I could add my user to the list of sudoers and make it so I only have to enter my password once, after that I can always use sudo without a password?08:08
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Bizzehty08:09
Bizzehtrying to install ati drivers08:09
apolomega: you can08:09
kmonomega: you could look at kwallet08:09
kmonbut I don't know for sure08:09
apolomega: adding your user to sudo group08:09
Bizzehneed to get a whole load of crap to build the new interface08:09
apolomega: but be careful...08:09
omegaAlso... what is this stuff about the kubuntu wiki certificate not being valid?08:09
apolomega: don't worry, just let it continue08:11
kmonomega: currently, the site redirects to ubuntu wiki08:11
kmonthe certificate is created for ub ubuntu.com08:11
kmonnot, kubuntu.org08:11
kmonthat's why you get a message08:11
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fedehi, I have a corrupt /dev/md0 device, on boot it fails mounting, should I e2fsck both devices?08:19
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kmonbye08:24
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Bizzehhey, i have hdb as a ntfs drive, but its only accessable by root, what do i need to do so i can add my standard user to be able to read from it?08:27
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GeneralZodBizzeh:For Ubuntu, but should apply to Kubuntu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php08:28
dergringohow can i get rid of usplash without removing kubuntu-desktop?08:28
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GeneralZoddergringo:kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, and can be safely removed.08:29
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GeneralZoddergringo:Is the kubuntu-desktop the only thing it will remove?08:30
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dergringoGeneralZod: this two things: kubuntu-desktop usplash08:30
GeneralZoddergringo:Should be fine, then :)08:30
dergringoGeneralZod: sure? ^^08:31
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GeneralZoddergringo:90% ;)08:31
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dergringoGeneralZod: it worked ;)08:33
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GeneralZoddergringo:Phew!:)08:33
omegaDoes this apply to the official drivers from Nvidia? I have a Geforce 6600GT. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:33
Bizzehalso, how do i get amrock to play mp3?08:34
omegaIt looks like a straight copy from the Ubuntu wiki page. =/08:34
omegaBizzeh: You need to download a couple of packages. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:34
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dergringoBizzeh:08:34
dergringo!mp308:34
ubotump3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:34
dergringo^^08:35
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dergringo2late08:35
Bizzehomega: search amrock in adept and i should see what im looking for?08:35
Bizzehbtw08:35
Bizzehi got the propriatory ati drivers running08:35
omegaNo, just read that page. :)08:35
Bizzehim in kubuntu, with a nice gui with a hardware accell :)08:35
dergringoBizzeh: did u install xgl?08:37
Bizzehno, how would i go about that?08:38
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dergringoBizzeh: [20:35]  <Bizzeh> im in kubuntu, with a nice gui with a hardware accell :) <-- if you don't have xgl/aiglx what else?08:40
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apolBizzeh: Congrats!08:42
apolBizzeh: be careful with Xgl :P08:42
dergringohas anyone installed KBootSplash?08:42
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kronozhmm, has kubuntu got compiz kde working?08:42
kronozsuse has i think08:43
derekSkronoz: expect that for dapper+108:43
derekSkronoz: thats becasue they created it08:43
apol!xgl08:43
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/08:43
kronozderekS, yes so obviously they would have it first but it just shows that it can be done ok and therefore implimented in kubuntu08:44
kronozi don't really like xgl that much personally08:44
Bizzehdapper is 6.06 right?08:44
dergringoyip08:44
apolkronoz: I've seen it on gentoo too08:44
apolBizzeh: yes08:44
derekSit is out there, but don't expect it to work well, it will take some hacking08:45
dergringoXGL seems to be nice but I don't get it running. I'll wait 'till its more stable08:45
kronozwell compiz, the idea of accelerated X is good, but the wobly windows are annoying and the menu popup stupidlu, it makes you work slower08:45
derekSand ubotu (the bot) gcce you some references08:45
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derekSi think that redhats will make it into dapper+108:45
derekSit is more modular08:45
kronozapol, on kororaa?08:45
apolkronoz: right08:46
kronozderekS, AIGLX?08:46
dergringoaiglx? has no nvidia support08:46
derekSkronoz: yeah08:46
derekSgive it time08:46
apolprivative drivers are both nvidia and ati awfull08:46
inc|freakydoes anybody know when the cpu frequency scaling for Amilo M1437G will be supported? because i dont want to use linux running with 800Mhz instead of 2000 :(08:46
kronozhmm, i would trust novell to do a better job than redhat, redhat themselves said they don't do desktops much so I don't aiglx  will be that great08:46
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derekSkronoz: novell made theirs without consulting the community, redhat did theres using community driven specs08:47
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klerfaytcan you rund 3d applications then compiz is enabled?08:47
apolklerfayt: of course08:47
kronozinc|freaky, `cat /proc/cpuinfo` does that say 800mhz?08:47
derekSi am starting to trust novell less and less08:47
kronozderekS, same here08:48
kronozderekS, i don't like Ximian being directors personally08:48
inc|freakykronoz: model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz --> cpu MHz         : 799.71108:49
visik7anyone have try to compile debs of firefox from dapper to breezy ?08:49
apolklerfayt: I can't have private08:49
visik7please don't replay with newerfirefox wiki pake08:49
visik7page08:49
inc|freakyits a centrino on my laptop08:49
derekSximian is fine, they always have been, its now the novell rules08:49
klerfaytcan you play games then glx is enabled?08:49
apolklerfayt: I think so, why not?08:50
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kronozderekS, the old and founding suse devs appear to be leaving, their leaning towards gnome and have a pretty buggy package manager, it has potential but is quite broken atm, so things aren't going well for them at the moment i think08:52
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derekSi like gnome :) i wish they would drop kde in general08:52
derekSor start a second distro08:53
apolderekS: don't flame :)08:53
derekSapol: i am not, i use both08:53
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klerfaythmm, I should try glx with dapper then if you say that 3d games are possible08:54
Bizzehis there any way to turn off tabs in konq08:54
apolklerfayt: If glx doesnt work on dapper for you, you won't be able to work with Xgl08:55
apol...08:55
slow-motionbbl08:55
klerfaytapol: it works. I'm sure.08:56
apolklerfayt: :)08:56
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kronozderekS, suse has one of the best kde dekstops out their imo, it would be stupid to drop it, they should focus on it as much as possible imo08:58
klerfaytwhy has "grayscale" sub-pixel hinting gone from kde?08:58
klerfaytyou have it in gnome but it's not in kde?08:59
kronozwhere does kde store color scheme info?08:59
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omega_Hi again.09:00
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klerfaytif I enable RGB sub-pixel hinting should the hinting style be medium or full?09:01
omeowI'm trying to play streaming radio in amaroK and/or Kaffeine and I've installed the proper packages according to the RestrictedFormats page. However, it seems as if amaroK can' t connect to the servers.09:01
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claydohomeow: try switching to the xine engine in Amarok09:04
claydohamarok-xine09:04
claydohand restart amarok09:05
omeowThere's only xine in the list.09:05
omeow(I'm using dapper)09:05
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claydohI am using amarok 1.4beta, can't remember what is needed for 1.309:07
omeowAdept needs libxine-extracodecs but it's not in the package list.09:07
claydohhave you enabled universe/multiverse?09:07
omeowI enabled everything.09:07
omeow(and disabled my CD-rom)09:08
claydohdid you add multiverse? not just universe09:09
claydohand then fetch updates or refreshed?09:10
claydohhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs09:10
mth`MAWDos somebody knows a way to stream a nsv (webcam-capture) to a shoutcast-server with linux09:10
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claydohhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto#head-3af7264a0e97edbc5bf039e5bdb971f46c43269a09:11
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failureHi. I'm trying to upgrade my kubuntu to dapper with a dist-upgrade and apt wants to remove almost all kde packages. Any idea?09:12
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derekSfailure: i had that problem09:12
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failureand did you solved it? :)09:13
derekSRiddell told me to go ahead and do it, then install kubuntu-desktop09:13
ll_onehello everybody :)09:13
derekSi would talk to Riddell first, so he knows that there is still a bug09:13
omega--claydoh: That should cover it, shouldn't it?09:13
derekSand it wasn't just me09:13
failuredid it work for you? or haven't you tried yet?09:14
claydohomega--: one sec while I peek :)09:14
ll_oneI'm having a problem authenticating in kubuntu. Can anyone here help me?09:14
derekSfailure: not really sure, i run the machine headless, and haven't vnc'ed in since the upgrade09:14
Bizzehhey, i have a nforce4 motherboard that has a built in cmedia sound card, how would i get this to work?09:14
Bizzehim trying to build the driver from nvidia09:15
Bizzehbut i need a configured kernel source for the kernel im using09:15
Bizzehcant seem to figure that one out09:15
omega--claydoh: I think I found it already. I had to add multiverse to us.archive in order to enable it.09:15
failurei think i'm going to wait to the final release :D09:15
RiddellderekS: hmm?09:16
claydohyup thats  it :)09:16
omega--I have music.09:16
failureRiddell: hi09:16
claydohsweet omega--09:16
Riddellfailure: hi09:16
failure<failure> Hi. I'm trying to upgrade my kubuntu to dapper with a dist-upgrade and apt wants to remove almost all kde09:16
failure          packages. Any idea?09:16
omega--Now on goes the search for multidisplay settings...09:16
derekSRiddell: i was talking about the problem i was having with dist-upgrade, where it tried to uninstall all of kde09:16
Bizzehhow do i get a copy of the source to the kernel im using installed to /usr/src/ and have the right .conf?09:17
omega--Oh yeah.. and what ever happened to the Luxi font? =( I miss it.09:17
claydohomega--: system settings/Display, but I do not have dual monitor setup09:17
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Hooblydoes anyone know how to turn off one-click file launching in Konqueror?09:18
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omega--claydoh: Yeah I found that bit already.09:19
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claydohHoobly: System Settings / mouse09:19
omega--It has no effect on my current setup. So I think i'll need to edit my xorg file manually.09:19
Bizzehanyway, so as i was saying, how would i get a copy of the source to the exact kernel im using, with the config, installed to /usr/src09:20
Bizzeh?09:20
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Hooblyclaydo: Booyah!  thanx09:21
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claydohBizzeh: instal the linux-source package09:22
claydohi think09:22
failureRiddell: please... :$09:24
evert__wich program can i use in kubuntu in place of 'dvd decryptor' in windows ?09:25
EvilIdlerevert__: dvd::rip (apt-get install dvdrip)09:26
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evert__ok , i'll install it , thx for the tip :)09:27
pradeepto|awayfailure: you  want $ from Riddell?09:27
pradeepto|away;)09:27
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slow-motionre09:29
bofhIs there a bug with user avatars an ICQ in Kopete Version 0.11.1 ?09:31
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Hooblyanyone know of a laptop guide out there with reviews of vendor machines that work with kubuntu09:32
EvilIdlerHoobly: Look for "linux on laptops" in Google09:33
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Hooblyword.  I thought someone might have something a little more specific to Kubuntu09:34
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EvilIdlerHoobly: It would be the Linux on Laptops site, if any. They've got tons of laptops tested.09:35
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mzinzIs the Dapper final out yet?09:46
Snake__mzinz: june 1st09:46
mzinzSnake__: thanks :)09:46
Snake__Np :)09:46
mzinzSnake__: how difficult is something like that to install?09:46
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mzinzSnake__: or upgrade to, rather09:46
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Snake__mzinz: Upgrade from breezy?09:46
mzinzSnake__: yeah, kubuntu on breezy09:46
Snake__mzinz: relativly simple, but I Dont know how well it works yet (It didnt work to well from hoary --> Breezy)09:47
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evert__i have a little problem with dvd::rip , i ripped a dvd , but no i have got 5 .vob files ... How can i see them at once (so not look file1.vob , then see file2.vob)09:47
mzinzSnake__: well we've come along way, hope its not too bad09:47
Snake__Yea09:48
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chowellsevert__: the DVD spec only supports files of max 1024 MB. You can join them using 'cat'09:48
EvilIdlerevert__: Oh, you just wanted to rip a DVD to view on HD?09:48
evert__Yes indeed09:48
evert__just rip it to my hard disk09:49
EvilIdlerevert__: In that case, there are a ton of other tools..lemme see if I remember09:49
evert__ok09:49
evert__i'm using dvd::rip (since a few minutes in place of dvd decryptor on windows)09:49
mzinzWhat are the Kubuntu splash screens titled on KDE-Look.org?  (The one where Ubuntu is loading right after POST)09:49
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EvilIdlerevert__: Simple tool called 'cpdvd' should do exactly what you need :)09:49
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EvilIdlerevert__: There's also 'dvdbackup09:50
omega--What's the KDE equivelant of System -> Preference -> Sessions from Gnome?09:50
evert__with that cpdvd i need to rip the dvd again ?09:51
EvilIdlerevert__: Not sure.09:51
omega--(I'm trying to set up XGL, following this guide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto)09:51
evert__it's not graphical :O09:51
EvilIdlerevert__: If it can copy individual files decrypted off a DVD, it should be OK09:51
evert__Never used a console based program before (only nano )09:52
EvilIdlerevert__: Well, that's always the problem, eh? ;)09:52
evert__still new to linux , i'm still a 'clicking based' windows user ;)09:52
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EvilIdlerevert__: vobcopy is another tool, and I *think* someone made a graphical frontend you can find on Freshmeat09:53
evert__that vobcopy is really easy :) thx for it09:54
evert__just enter the command and it started copying :)09:55
evert__thx :)09:55
EvilIdlerNeat :)09:55
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Hooblyhow can I find out what release of Kubuntu I'm using?10:05
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r0xzanyone knows if these vimemu cheatsheet also applies to vim? http://www.viemu.com/vi-vim-cheat-sheet.gif10:07
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r0xzi can't seem to get some working10:08
Bizzehhey, im having trouble getting my sound working10:08
Bizzehmy alsa_base is currently http://pastebin.com/72124510:08
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Bizzehcan anyone tell me if im missing anything10:08
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^_^http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=630&slide=110:12
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^_^a little suseesque eh?10:12
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jtmoneylooks good though10:12
jtmoneyi know that's ubuntu, whatever heh10:12
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evert__hello , i ripped a movie with vobcopy , but i still get 3 different vob files :( ( with dvd rip i got 5 different vob files)10:14
evert__I need one to see it (otherwise I need to change it in the middle of the film , that's no fun at all)10:14
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f166kmonkeyhow do you instal automatix on Kbuntu?10:15
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Seantaterubotu tell f166kmonkey about automatix10:20
Seantaterf166kmonkey: oops -- sorry10:20
Seantaterf166kmonkey: ubotu is not nice about automatix10:21
Seantaterubotu list10:21
ubotu[list]  you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage10:21
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caligulaam i the only one having trouble with amarok on flight 7?10:22
Seantatercaligula: appearantly10:22
caligulait's going weird..10:22
Seantatercaligula: I'm having no problems10:22
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Seantatercaligula: what is wrong10:22
f166kmonkeyanybody know how to install Wine on KDe10:23
caligulathe automatic playlists don't work10:23
Seantaterf166kmonkey: sorry -- never could get wine to work -- if you can, /tell me/!10:23
caliguland sometimes the collection disappears, and I need to build it again..10:23
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Seantatercaligula: have you made them into playlists?10:24
evert__hello , i ripped a movie with vobcopy , but i still get 3 different vob files :( ( with dvd rip i got 5 different vob files)10:24
evert__I need one to see it (otherwise I need to change it in the middle of the film , that's no fun at all)10:24
caligulawhat do you mean?10:24
Seantatercaligula: You can make playlists too, they are much easier IMO10:25
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Seantaterevert__: Sorry -- never made a copy of a DVD, I always use the real thing..10:25
caligulayeah, I know, but I prefer the "smart playlists", and they don't work10:25
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Seantatercaligula: Sorry -- I never used a smart playlist -- only static ones10:26
caligulaalright.. thanks anyway10:26
evert__i need the rip , because my dvd drive is making to much noise for seeing a film...10:26
f166kmonkeywhat is a good DvD ripper program for Kbuntu?10:26
Seantaterevert__: I do not know; but I do beleive there is a file size cutoff10:27
SeantaterGosh -- DVD rippin is a common topic all of a sudden --10:27
EvilIdlerDVD files are 1GB tops. They're split by necessity.10:27
SeantaterEvilIdler: What necessity?10:27
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EvilIdlerSeantater: The original DVD standard spec, I think10:27
SeantaterEvilIdler: why not encode in another format?10:28
EvilIdlerAlthough UDF discs can handle really big files10:28
evert__But when i ripped in windows with dvddecryptor i was able to see the film in one time :s10:28
EvilIdlerSeantater: Legacy support. People still have first-generation players that work just fine.10:28
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evert__is there a tool to rip to divx ?10:29
SeantaterEvilIdler: but when encoded, they should be able to be but in huge files, as long as the FS supports it10:29
EvilIdlerevert__: Yeah, dvd:;rip :)10:29
Seantaterevert__: I think there might be10:29
EvilIdlerSeantater: Yes, a computer can handle that.10:29
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evert__hmm dvdrip just rippes to my hard disk and then he don't encode10:29
evert__i'll see10:29
EvilIdlerSeantater: But not all standalone players can.10:29
EvilIdlerevert__: Check the next tab ;)10:30
SeantaterEvilIdler: How much space does the average DVD take up?10:30
EvilIdlerSeantater: 4.36 or about 8 gigs10:30
Seantater:-()10:30
EvilIdlerSeantater: Cheapo budget movies have a tendency to be around 3.5 gigs, for some reason.10:30
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SeantaterOkay -- Maybe I don't have /that/ much disk space..10:31
EvilIdlerI've got a hundred gigs or more on each of three computers here. I can play around :)10:31
EvilIdlerRent, rip, return, watch & delete :)10:31
SeantaterI have ~150GB on two computers, totalling 300GB10:32
EvilIdlerevert__: After ripping, move on to the clip & zoom section, pick a size, then to Transcode10:32
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SeantaterBut I have a humongous DVD collection -- I think I will be just using the real DVD's10:33
evert__ok i i'll try it again :)10:33
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EvilIdlerevert__: You can pick number of CDs, and you can adjust it down or up to sizes you want10:33
EvilIdlerSeantater: Nice to not wear out drives, though. I've had a few that overheated while playing :/10:34
evert__i just need  1 file , size don't matters10:34
EvilIdlerevert__: The files on some DVDs are a lot of movie clips and trailers in one, though. That's what the IFO files are for. They're the index.10:34
evert__an IFO is like a ISO file ?10:35
SeantaterOverheated?10:35
SeantaterDid not know..10:35
EvilIdlerSeantater: Yes, spinning for 20 minutes, overheating, throwing a kernel oops, that sort of thing.10:35
SeantaterIs DVD+R or -R better?10:36
EvilIdlerSeantater: And watching DVDs all weekend while hopped up on caffeine is NOT good for you or your computer :P10:36
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evert__i first have to rip to my hard disk and then 'transcode' to something others ?10:36
EvilIdlerSeantater: Depends what you're using them for. Some players can't read one or the other. Computers and recent PS2s can use both.10:36
EvilIdlerSeantater: DVD+R can be encoded to look like DVD-ROM10:36
SeantaterOnly computers here10:36
EvilIdlerSeantater: Buy the cheapest kind, then10:37
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klerfaytdoes someone know why grayscale sub-pixel hinting is gone in kde 3.5?10:38
SeantaterLooks to me like -R has a higher capacity (at least in my case)10:38
SeantaterBut only for video10:39
EvilIdlerSeantater: They're 4.38GB for all the brands I have used, whethere - or +10:39
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Seantater4.7 GB here10:39
EvilIdlerSeantater: That's the label. Stick it in the computer, and it measure actual size.10:39
EvilIdlerMeasures, even10:40
SeantaterI don;t think I can when it's not written to10:40
EvilIdlerSure you can :)10:40
EvilIdlerDVD recording programs can give you disc info10:40
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SeantaterAh-Ha!10:42
Seantater1000/1024 differenec10:42
Seantaterdifference10:42
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EvilIdlerYep. Also known as marketing lies :)10:42
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SeantaterK3b has a sopt in the menu saying "Why 4.4 instead of 4.7?"10:43
SeantaterI clicked it and it told me10:43
evert__indeed10:43
evert__that's the same with hard disks10:43
evert__you gow for a 160gb hard disk , but you get 15* gb's10:43
EvilIdlerYep, my 250GB drives might really be 23610:43
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bilfordwith Konqueror, do I have to get used to Icon view?  it doesnt seem to save my List view setting10:46
bilfordoh10:46
evert__with dvd::rip i can't make 1 file of 1.5Gb :s10:47
bilfordView profiles10:47
EvilIdlerevert__: You should be. Just type in the size you want.10:47
bilfordI shouldve known bettter10:47
bilfordeverything is configurable10:47
evert__then i get an error10:47
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evert__the target size field is a bit buggy , but it works now10:48
SeantaterGolly -- one single folder takes 5.8 GB -- way too much for one DVD10:49
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evert__"encrypted dvd support unavailable "10:50
evert__damned10:50
EvilIdlerevert__: apt-get install libdvdcss210:51
pmwhere are locales options stored in the system-. the ones set by dpkg-reconfigure locales?10:51
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SeantaterEvilIdler: I thought it was libdvdread3, and then you executed a special script10:51
dergringohow do i unpack .jisp files?10:51
Seantaterdergringo: .jisp? what files extion is that?10:52
EvilIdlerSeantater: Never did that here. I installed this system on Friday, and just got the tools I needed, plus libdvdcss2 from the multiverse or something10:52
evert__don't find that package10:52
r0xzdergringo: jisp icon-sets are just zip files10:52
Seantaterevert__: Try libdvdread310:52
EvilIdlerevert__: Got free, non-free, universe and multiverse?10:52
evert__i got all repo's10:53
Seantaterlet's see if ubotu knows anything about it10:53
EvilIdlerThen I dunno..could be the Penguin Liberation Front repos10:53
Seantater!dvd10:53
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)10:53
EvilIdlerdeb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf breezy free non-free10:53
SeantaterEvilIdler: nope -- I got it from totally ubuntu10:53
evert__seeing the dvd is no problem , it's  transcoding ti to divx what's the problem ;)10:53
SeantaterNot needed -- I got it from totally ubuntu multiverse10:54
EvilIdlerWell, evert needs it :)10:54
dergringor0xz: thanks it seems to work10:54
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dergringor0xz: do you use SIM IM?10:54
KDEfanboyhow do you upgrade to 2.6.* kernel?10:54
evert__i installed the libdvdread3 , but it still don't works10:54
EvilIdlerevert__: That's just for reading IFOs. That's not the decryption library.10:54
evert__i need the decryption library .. what's the name of it ?10:55
EvilIdlerevert__: libdvdcss2 is what you need10:55
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dergringoi am looking for a good XML editor. Any suggestions?10:55
evert__i can't find it with adept ?10:55
KDEfanboyin dapper10:55
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EvilIdlerevert__: Try this repository in your sources.list: deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf breezy free non-free10:56
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evert__ok10:56
EvilIdlerevert__: It's probably where mine comes from, as my others are just official repositories10:56
r0xzdergringo: no i used to use psi a while ago10:56
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jtmoney_anyone know why apt-get can't locate the package "grub-splashimages" ... adept isn't showing it either10:56
evert__where can i find the sources.list i forgot , i'm sry10:56
jtmoney_is that some difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?10:57
dergringor0xz: what do you use right now? I am missing miranda IM :((10:57
EvilIdlerevert__: /etc/apt/10:57
EvilIdlerevert__: You'll get the hang of it eventually. It's only a hundred directories and 5000 commands to memorise ;)10:57
evert__haha10:57
r0xzdergringo: just kopete, but the jabber part is missing some xmmp features10:57
evert__thx for the directory10:57
dergringor0xz: hmm ok10:58
evert__i succesfully installed the libdvd css2 files , but now i get following eror deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf breezy free non-free10:59
evert__wrong paste sry10:59
DaSkreechnalioth: hi10:59
naliothhi DaSkreech howzit goin?11:00
bilfordhow do you turn that red line thing on in Konversation11:00
evert__libdvddreas:couldn't find device name ... can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO11:00
bilfordthat shows new messages since the window was last in view11:00
evert__how can i solve that problem ?11:00
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EvilIdlerevert__: That's weird..11:00
DaSkreechnalioth: Not bad OO.o makes me want to hit something with a stick11:01
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naliothDaSkreech: sounds like time for baseball, then11:03
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KDEfanboyis ubuntulinux.nl an official ubuntu site?11:05
DaSkreechI'm trying to support a school for their I.T. class but anytime they save something in Base then reopen it later all the data is lost11:05
bilfordhow do you turn that red line thing on in Konversation11:05
bilfordthat shows new messages since the window was last in view11:05
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DaSkreechCan I have a Multiverse security line in sources.list?11:10
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Cervezahey, I have a problem, I tried to modify my xorg.conf file for better screen resolution, but when I go into the display properties some of the modes I added are possibilities11:11
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KDEfanboyDaSkreech: deb http://us.security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse11:12
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DaSkreechKDEfanboy: I guess what I'm asking is what those servers deliver and who maintains them11:12
saturnoih boys!11:12
DaSkreechKDEfanboy: It would be for high security patches right?11:13
KDEfanboyDaSkreech: i think so. afaik they are ubuntu community supported packages11:15
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DaSkreechSo Ubuntu supports the Multiverse security patches?11:15
KDEfanboyi have no idea. the wiki refers to them and i was just asking here whether ubuntulinux.nl is an official ubuntu site, which has a source list builder that includes them11:17
DaSkreechsourceomatic?11:20
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TechHuthello11:27
TechHutI am experiencing a problem on Kubuntu11:27
TechHutwhen my computer went down after a power outage last night, my fonts were messed up some how11:28
TechHutI fixed the KDE ones, but when I try loading GAIM, the fonts are all small11:28
TechHutbe right back11:29
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goldenear_TechHut: what file system are you using ? I bet It's Reiser FS11:31
klerfaytwhat's worng with reiser?11:31
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EvilIdlerReiser has atrocious mounting time for my big drives11:32
klerfaytbut it's faster than ext311:32
EvilIdlerUsing JFS now, but now when I lose power, I need to manually fsck before it can mount :/11:32
EvilIdlerklerfayt: Isn't everything? ;)=11:32
slow-motionn811:35
diopkubuntu is the best :)11:37
apolanybody knows how knows how kubuntu works on macbooks?11:39
TechHutback11:39
goldenear_klerfayt: Reiser FS in not very nice after a power outage11:40
goldenear_s/in/is11:40
TechHutCould that be what corrupted the files that store my font settings?11:40
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JBirdAngelkubuntu is ubuntu with kde right? can kde run things gnome cant?  and you can use any um, kde/gnome type thing with ubuntu right?11:41
arafatJBirdAngel: yes:-)11:42
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TechHut1) I think, 2) they can run both as long as you have the libraries you need for each 3) and yes, that is a window manager, and as long as yo install it11:42
TechHutyou*11:42
JBirdAngelokay thank you both11:42
JBirdAngeland linux is basically virus adaware etc free right?11:43
TechHutWierd though, the fonts look nice on apps that work just fine on KDE, but the GTK+ applications, the fonts are screwy11:43
goldenearTechHut: yes,Reiser FS can loose files after a power outage11:43
TechHutLinux has a few viruses out there, and there could be a rar adware out there, but don't expect the adware11:43
TechHutI am pretty sure11:43
iNikukde and gnome are not window managers, they are desktop environments... the window manager is only a small part of both11:43
iNikuby default kwin in kde, metacity in gnome11:43
DaSkreechcompiZ!!!11:44
JBirdAngeloh okay thank you TechHut and iNiku11:44
JBirdAngelso would i want to install an antivirus and firewall and such?11:44
DaSkreechI don't know. Would you? :)11:44
DaSkreechYou can but firewall would be the most useful11:44
DaSkreechand as far as I know Kubuntu comes with no interfaces to the outside world on11:45
goldeneariNiku: KDE is a DESTOP environment, GNOME is not: it's a "Network Object Model Environment" :D11:45
DaSkreechSo you shouldn't have anyone breaking11:45
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DaSkreechin11:45
TechHutanyone have suggestions what I should do?11:45
TechHutor should I consider myself screwed, cut my losses, and use Kopete?11:46
goldenearKopete is very nice11:46
JBirdAngelDaSkreech: okay thank you11:46
goldenearand more integrated in KDE than GAIM11:46
bilfordhow do I easily see how much disk  space I have left in Konqueror11:46
TechHutthen I guess I will use Kopete11:46
bilfordlike a Status bar thing11:46
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goldenearTechHut: you won't regret it :)11:47
TechHutI have got to say though, I have noticed a large difference running Windows and Linux on this computer11:47
DaSkreechI do :(11:47
TechHutEverything runs alot faster now11:47
DaSkreechJBirdAngel: try it out without those for a while11:47
goldenearTechHut: Power outages can make your system in a real mess11:48
TechHutI need to invest in a UPS then11:48
DaSkreech!print11:48
ubotuI guess print is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org11:48
TechHutMaybe I should jsut switch to all laptops, no need to get a UPS, everything comes right in a little box11:48
JBirdAngelDaSkreech: try it without firewall etc?11:48
DaSkreechYes11:49
DaSkreechIt's safe enough without them and it might make life more difficult for you11:49
JBirdAngelDaSkreech: you mean might make it more difficult to ahve htem11:49
DaSkreechCorrect11:49
goldenearTechHut: yes you should. Also ext3 is a bit slower than Reiser FS but it resists better to power outage...11:49
DaSkreechYou could lock yourself out of things you want to get into :)11:49
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TechHutdarn11:50
JBirdAngelDaSkreech: okay thank you, lol okay ill probably have enough confusion trying to get used to it without doing that11:50
TechHutI went with ReiserFS hoping for better performance11:50
TechHutbut now I can';t wait for Kubuntu 6.10, then I will jsut reformat, and use EXT311:50
DaSkreechJBirdAngel: Right :)11:50
JBirdAngelalright well thank you all for your help, i need to get back to work, have a nice time11:51
goldenearDaSkreech: what's wrong with Kopete IYHO ?11:51
TechHuti LOVE kopete11:52
TechHutit reminds me of Trillian11:52
h3sp4wnTechHut: Reiserfs is a journaling filesystem as well - Its the default fs on suse enterprise linux so basically as long as your using reiser3 not reiser4 you should be pretty safe11:52
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TechHutI am not pretty sure which I am using11:52
DaSkreechgoldenear: Want the short list?11:52
goldenearyep :)11:53
goldenearor the long one if you want...11:53
DaSkreechTab management is terrible, It's crashy, There is no way to seperate Chats vs IMs11:53
DaSkreechThere is no granularity11:54
goldenearTechHut: Reiser4 is not activated by default in K/Ubtuntu. I guess you use reiser311:54
EvilIdlerNo buddy ticker!11:54
DaSkreechand Ctrl+M doesn't work but I have learned to live with that11:54
DaSkreechOh Yeah You have to add people to talk to them11:54
DaSkreechSearch makes no sense on IRC11:54
DaSkreechThough it's cool that they have it11:54
DaSkreechI can't jump to a conversation11:55
DaSkreechone or two other annoyances that I can live with till I run over them again11:55
bilfordin Konversation, how do you enable that Mirc Ctrl+L like thing11:55
goldenearh3sp4wn: Reiser FS is nice if you have an UPS...11:56
bilfordthe red line marker11:56
goldenearDaSkreech: I never use Kopete for IRC... I use Konversation for that :)11:56
bilfordhow do you get a list of servers in Konversation11:56
goldenearKopete is very good for true IM11:56
bilforda master list11:57
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DaSkreechgoldenear: Ok Next time I jump onto IRC I'll try konversation11:57
TechHutAnyone know any of the new features in Kubuntu 6.10?11:57
DaSkreechI've heard enough about it11:57
TechHutOne thing that I would just love, is a pack of server tools11:58
bilfordyou mean 6.0611:58
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h3sp4wngoldenear: It improves the performance of squid alot by running it off reiserfs (with a big cache) especially regenerating it11:58
TechHutlike RHEL's, where you can administrate HTTP stuff, like virtual hosts, etc11:58
DaSkreechinstall kubuntu-server11:58
TechHutwait, they made a package for that?11:58
DaSkreechIs there an easy way to turn on Network printing in Kubuntu?11:58
TechHutOk, another problem11:58
TechHuti dont have an update icon type thing in Kubuntu11:59
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TechHutI installed it over Ubuntu, and don't have an update icon11:59
DaSkreechTechHut: What do you mean?11:59
DaSkreecha little you need to update button?12:00
TechHutwell, there was a button12:00
TechHutwhere you could click, and it shows updates12:00
goldenearh3sp4wn: you mean squid is faster on Ext3 ?12:00
TechHutI haven't been able to update for quite a while12:00
DaSkreechTechHut: There should be one by the clock12:01
DaSkreechI have one12:01
TechHutI don't have one12:01
DaSkreechTechHut: Wait are you on 5.10?12:01
TechHutyes12:01
h3sp4wngoldenear: squid is faster on reiserfs I have tested it properly (using polygraph)12:02
TechHutanything I could [re] install to get it [back] ?12:02
DaSkreechHmm been a while since I was on 5.1012:02
goldenearh3sp4wn: indeed, reiserfs is faster for many small file, but it can losse datas in case of a power outage12:02
DaSkreechYou'll get one in 6.06 :)12:02
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