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| Madpilot | busy place here tonight... ;) | 06:11 |
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| robotgeek | Madpilot: BANG! | 06:12 |
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| Laser_away | Madpilot: rocking! | 06:13 |
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| crimsun | ok, for Edgy we need to trawl these man pages. I hate that most of them have few, if any, good examples. | 07:55 |
| dsas | crimsun: A good place to start would be to just grep through them for "debian", you'll get a load of skeletal man pages that are barely a page long. | 07:56 |
| Madpilot | the thought of having to tackle a distro's worth of man pages + our regular docs is a bit much ;) | 07:57 |
| crimsun | dsas: yeah, I'm thinking of starting with the easier ones, like gst-launch-0.10 | 07:58 |
| crimsun | (heh, I nearly typed gst-launchpad-0.10) | 07:58 |
| Madpilot | crimsun, might want to file launchpad bugs against the packages you want to change - that might make getting in touch with packagers & maintainers easier | 08:02 |
| crimsun | Madpilot: well, once I find time to play with gst-launch, I'll flesh out the man page more and send it upstream | 08:03 |
| Madpilot | gst-launch makes me think of taxes - we've got a "Goods & Services Tax" in Canada - what does it actually do? :) | 08:03 |
| crimsun | it's a nice cli tool for using gstreamer | 08:04 |
| crimsun | I use it for audio, mainly | 08:04 |
| jsgotangco | Madpilot: actually the man pages thing has been a long long goal before | 08:08 |
| Madpilot | ah | 08:09 |
| jsgotangco | there are a few manuals of apps in main that are "uncatalogued" in scrollkeeper | 08:09 |
| Madpilot | don't forget that Edgy is going to be a very short cycle for release, though | 08:09 |
| crimsun | yeah, but I won't be spending 90% of my time doing ALSA fixes =) | 08:10 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 08:11 |
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| poningru | I had a question about java | 11:49 |
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| jjesse | morning everyone :) | 02:43 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 02:43 |
| jjesse | evening for you :) | 02:44 |
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| jsgotangco | goodnight | 05:58 |
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| mdke | crimsun: how does one change the default sound card for system sounds if there is more than one? | 09:09 |
| crimsun | mdke: for GNOME, System> Preferences> Sound> Set default sound card's pull-down menu | 09:10 |
| mdke | crimsun: I had my brother on the phone, he says that he tried that and it didn't remember the setting | 09:10 |
| crimsun | mdke: yeah, that's a known bug | 09:11 |
| mdke | crimsun: great, cheers | 09:11 |
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| crimsun | mdke: a workaround is to use asoundconf directly | 09:12 |
| crimsun | mdke: since the Sound capplet calls asoundconf for its backend work | 09:12 |
| mdke | crimsun: lovely, thanks. | 09:13 |
| crimsun | mdke: ``asoundconf list'' returns the canonical string names; use ``asoundconf set-default-card CARD'' to set it | 09:13 |
| trappist | <3 asoundconf list | 09:14 |
| crimsun | trappist: ^5 | 09:14 |
| trappist | :) | 09:14 |
| mdke | crimsun: gottit thanks | 09:14 |
| dsas | LaserJock: ping | 09:17 |
| LaserJock | dsas: yeah? | 09:23 |
| dsas | You commited r3034 on behalf of someone, and it said "firefox has auto-update which gets you latest security updates". or something similar. Ubuntu ships with firefox updates turned off. | 09:25 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 09:26 |
| dsas | I mean, presumably it can be turned back on, but it isn't like that out of the box... | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | ok, thanks for pointing that out | 09:26 |
| dsas | no probs. I didn't know who Phil was to inform him directly. | 09:27 |
| dsas | s/Phil/Pete | 09:30 |
| LaserJock | cbx33 over in #edubuntu :-) | 09:30 |
| LaserJock | hmm, but it does have an update manager. should I just take the "automatic" part out? | 09:32 |
| dsas | uhm, yeah. The auto-updater *does work* for extensions, but not for firefox core without messing around with about:config (I think) | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | so just getting rid of "automatic" should work | 09:43 |
| dsas | I think that'll be fine yes. I was just imagining users getting mislead... | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | yeah, we don't want to mislead users, but we do want to tell them the good parts :-) | 09:44 |
| dsas | yeah, there's a line to be walked :) | 09:46 |
| mdke | LaserJock: actually last time I checked they were actually disabled | 09:48 |
| mdke | so updates are done through system updates | 09:49 |
| mdke | maybe it's changed | 09:49 |
| LaserJock | ah | 09:49 |
| LaserJock | fine | 09:49 |
| mdke | yeah "Check for updates" is greyed out | 09:49 |
| LaserJock | naughty Ubuntu devs ;-) | 09:49 |
| mdke | well, I think it didn't work | 09:50 |
| dsas | Not unless you ran firefox as root | 09:50 |
| mdke | ah | 09:50 |
| dsas | which for all intents and purposes is the same as it not working. I'd forgot about that. | 09:50 |
| LaserJock | ok, I took the whole sentence out | 09:51 |
| mdke | just say "firefox sucks, install epiphany" | 09:53 |
| dsas | mdke: +1 | 09:53 |
| LaserJock | lol, I'd be more inclined to reverse that ;-) | 09:56 |
| LaserJock | epiphany has never really appealed to me, probably because I use firefox so much on Windows | 09:57 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, I found it a bit of a switch and now I can;t stand fF | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | cool, unfortunately my most used browser is currently Safari :/ | 09:59 |
| dsas | Firefox's menus scare me now. | 10:01 |
| LaserJock | why would you use the menus? | 10:01 |
| mdke | firefox's preferences look like they were designed by some kid | 10:02 |
| mdke | a particularly untalented kid | 10:02 |
| dsas | I don't very often, but they're all so long and full of stuff. And the prefs menus are going backwards. | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 10:02 |
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| Lysander- | Hey..would anybody be able to help me? (: | 10:04 |
| Burgwork | Lysander-, this is a documentation team channel but what sort of help are you looking for> | 10:05 |
| Lysander- | Oh, sorry. I thought it was a channel to discuss problems. (: | 10:06 |
| Burgwork | Lysander-, that would be #ubuntu, or #ubuntu+1 for dapper | 10:06 |
| Lysander- | Ah, okay. Thanks! | 10:06 |
| Burgwork | np | 10:06 |
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| mdke | robotgeek: that problem with slow building seems to only happen on KDG | 10:42 |
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| mdke | oh no, with all the books under kubuntu | 10:45 |
| mdke | ah, got im | 10:47 |
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