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I hate that most of them have few, if any, good examples. [07:56] crimsun: A good place to start would be to just grep through them for "debian", you'll get a load of skeletal man pages that are barely a page long. [07:57] the thought of having to tackle a distro's worth of man pages + our regular docs is a bit much ;) [07:58] dsas: yeah, I'm thinking of starting with the easier ones, like gst-launch-0.10 [07:58] (heh, I nearly typed gst-launchpad-0.10) [08:02] crimsun, might want to file launchpad bugs against the packages you want to change - that might make getting in touch with packagers & maintainers easier [08:03] Madpilot: well, once I find time to play with gst-launch, I'll flesh out the man page more and send it upstream [08:03] gst-launch makes me think of taxes - we've got a "Goods & Services Tax" in Canada - what does it actually do? :) [08:04] it's a nice cli tool for using gstreamer [08:04] I use it for audio, mainly [08:08] Madpilot: actually the man pages thing has been a long long goal before [08:09] ah [08:09] there are a few manuals of apps in main that are "uncatalogued" in scrollkeeper [08:09] don't forget that Edgy is going to be a very short cycle for release, though [08:10] yeah, but I won't be spending 90% of my time doing ALSA fixes =) [08:11] heh === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Unfrgiven [n=ankur@ubuntu/member/unfrgiven] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has left #ubuntu-doc ["my] === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:49] I had a question about java === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.109.220.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === motin_ [n=motin@c-248472d5.09-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:43] morning everyone :) [02:43] hi [02:44] evening for you :) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kyral_ [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs4.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:58] goodnight === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-8-223.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host81-129-228-205.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs4.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === motin [n=motin@80.248.225.66] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:09] crimsun: how does one change the default sound card for system sounds if there is more than one? [09:10] mdke: for GNOME, System> Preferences> Sound> Set default sound card's pull-down menu [09:10] crimsun: I had my brother on the phone, he says that he tried that and it didn't remember the setting [09:11] mdke: yeah, that's a known bug [09:11] crimsun: great, cheers === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:12] mdke: a workaround is to use asoundconf directly [09:12] mdke: since the Sound capplet calls asoundconf for its backend work [09:13] crimsun: lovely, thanks. [09:13] mdke: ``asoundconf list'' returns the canonical string names; use ``asoundconf set-default-card CARD'' to set it [09:14] <3 asoundconf list [09:14] trappist: ^5 [09:14] :) [09:14] crimsun: gottit thanks [09:17] LaserJock: ping [09:23] dsas: yeah? [09:25] You commited r3034 on behalf of someone, and it said "firefox has auto-update which gets you latest security updates". or something similar. Ubuntu ships with firefox updates turned off. [09:26] hmm [09:26] I mean, presumably it can be turned back on, but it isn't like that out of the box... [09:26] ok, thanks for pointing that out [09:27] no probs. I didn't know who Phil was to inform him directly. [09:30] s/Phil/Pete [09:30] cbx33 over in #edubuntu :-) [09:32] hmm, but it does have an update manager. should I just take the "automatic" part out? [09:42] uhm, yeah. The auto-updater *does work* for extensions, but not for firefox core without messing around with about:config (I think) [09:43] so just getting rid of "automatic" should work [09:44] I think that'll be fine yes. I was just imagining users getting mislead... [09:44] yeah, we don't want to mislead users, but we do want to tell them the good parts :-) [09:46] yeah, there's a line to be walked :) [09:48] LaserJock: actually last time I checked they were actually disabled [09:49] so updates are done through system updates [09:49] maybe it's changed [09:49] ah [09:49] fine [09:49] yeah "Check for updates" is greyed out [09:49] naughty Ubuntu devs ;-) [09:50] well, I think it didn't work [09:50] Not unless you ran firefox as root [09:50] ah [09:50] which for all intents and purposes is the same as it not working. I'd forgot about that. [09:51] ok, I took the whole sentence out [09:53] just say "firefox sucks, install epiphany" [09:53] mdke: +1 [09:56] lol, I'd be more inclined to reverse that ;-) [09:57] epiphany has never really appealed to me, probably because I use firefox so much on Windows [09:59] LaserJock, I found it a bit of a switch and now I can;t stand fF [09:59] cool, unfortunately my most used browser is currently Safari :/ [10:01] Firefox's menus scare me now. [10:01] why would you use the menus? [10:02] firefox's preferences look like they were designed by some kid [10:02] a particularly untalented kid [10:02] I don't very often, but they're all so long and full of stuff. And the prefs menus are going backwards. [10:02] hmm === Lysander-AFK [i=Somethin@88-109-86-19.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Lysander-AFK [i=Somethin@88-109-86-19.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === Lysander- [i=Somethin@88-109-86-19.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:04] Hey..would anybody be able to help me? (: [10:05] Lysander-, this is a documentation team channel but what sort of help are you looking for> [10:06] Oh, sorry. I thought it was a channel to discuss problems. (: [10:06] Lysander-, that would be #ubuntu, or #ubuntu+1 for dapper [10:06] Ah, okay. Thanks! [10:06] np === Lysander- [i=Somethin@88-109-86-19.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [10:42] robotgeek: that problem with slow building seems to only happen on KDG === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:45] oh no, with all the books under kubuntu [10:47] ah, got im === keith [n=Kevin@keithsudbury.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === motin [n=motin@80.248.225.61] has joined #ubuntu-doc