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soundrayNoobThatNeedsHel: possibly12:00
P0ldybluefoxicy, Yes, I know what you're talking about... there's nothing to update on my PC right now so I don't have access to it.12:00
bluefoxicyP0ldy:  rhythmbox, and skip through songs.12:00
MynthonCrimsun: Do I have to reboot?Cause there's still no sound.....:(12:00
NoobThatNeedsHelso how do i fix it. I have Netgear12:00
soundrayNoobThatNeedsHel: what's an example for an application that won't work12:00
soundray?12:00
bluefoxicyP0ldy:  when it plays a new song it does the same thing.. heh.12:00
Rakel_23buenas noches12:00
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NoobThatNeedsHelbit torrent, Cedega authentication process12:01
GlassCasketIs there a hardware supported list for Ubuntu/Kubuntu?12:01
GlassCasketIs there a hardware supported list for Ubuntu/Kubuntu?12:01
GlassCasketI'd like to know if my wireless router is suppsoer :D12:01
GlassCasketSorry12:01
NoobThatNeedsHelboth have no connection12:01
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jonukQuestion:  I'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.10.  When it gets to the stage where it is "Starting Partitioner", it gets 100% and then goes to a blue screen and hangs there.  If I hit Ctrl+C, it starts the partitioner again and hangs at 52% everytime.12:01
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harfoozhi all. I posted a dapper problem in #ubuntu+1, but thought it may be someone here that could check something for me. Has anyone got dapper and mozilla-acroread installed?12:01
NoobThatNeedsHelsoundray: you still there12:02
namithey ubuntu rocks12:02
sixtymhzGlassCasket : http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HCL12:02
bluefoxicyP0ldy:  also that forum thread yo ugave me doesn't have it there.12:02
soundrayNoobThatNeedsHel: can you ping www.ubuntulinux.org?12:02
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NoobThatNeedsHeli will try12:02
jonukI'm pretty positive it has something to do with my hard drives (first one in particular).  I have 2 hard drives.  One is a 40GB hard drive with Windows installed on it.  The second is a brand new 250 GB hard drive with entirely unallocated space.12:02
sixtymhzharfooz : I do, why12:02
ompauljonuk have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions  or wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge no promises but you might strike it lucky12:02
kevin_Just to let you all know, easyubuntu's repositories have been down for over a week, so don't bother trying12:02
harfoozin breezy, when I would browse to a .pdf, acroread would open within firefox. However with dapper, the plugin doesn't seem to be working: when I browse to a .pdf in firefox, I am given the choice to open it with the default viewer.12:02
bluefoxicyP0ldy:  I want to use Ubuntu's default theme, but not have it be brown..... (Ubuntu:  Linux for Blind People)12:02
darichquestion how do I get Beagle to index my windows partitions12:03
sixtymhzharfooz : lemmie try.12:03
ompauljonuk, sata and ide?12:03
NoobThatNeedsHelno, i can't12:03
NoobThatNeedsHelwait12:03
NoobThatNeedsHeltypo12:03
jonukompaul: IDE12:03
outlawcrookman if these files dont get smaller i wil not be able to get them all :(12:03
MynthonCrimsun; Thanks for all your help!Thanks a million...Not so many people I know who could have helped me here in Oslo12:03
harfoozsixtymhz: in other words, acroread functions as expected on local files, but mozilla-acroread isn't working when I browse to a .pdf.12:03
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NoobThatNeedsHelyes, i can ping ubuntulinux.org12:03
crimsunMynthon: you'd be surprised, actually.12:04
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outlawcrooki have direcway and will get hit with there fair acces policy12:04
sixtymhzharfooz : works for me.12:04
paniqcan somebody paste his /etc/network/interfaces please?12:04
sixtymhzWorks in Firefox.12:04
harfoozdang it.12:04
MynthonCrimsun: Oh?12:04
ompauljonuk, make sure you have themn set as master and slave and work from there12:04
sixtymhzTry reinstalling it12:04
crimsunMynthon: quite a few Ubuntu users in Oslo, I'm sure.12:04
NoobThatNeedsHelsoundray: i can ping that site12:04
NoobThatNeedsHelit works12:04
harfoozso acroread opens within (is "swallowed" in) Firefox?12:04
soundrayNoobThatNeedsHel: I think the programs you mentioned open inbound ports on your machine. You may have to open them explicitly in your router config.12:04
jonukompaul: Yes, I have the jumper for the 40GB set as Master and the 250GB set as Slave12:05
soundrayNoobThatNeedsHel: can you be a bit more patient please.12:05
MynthonCrimsun: Probably:) But should I reboot?12:05
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harfoozsixtymhz: was there any additional config that I should do?12:05
NoobThatNeedsHelyes, sry12:05
jonukompaul:  I want to leave the 40GB as is, and partition off part of the 250GB drive for Linux12:05
ompauljonuk, no cable select, and make sure that the cd is master on ide 2 (assuming that it is on ide 2)12:05
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sixtymhzharfooz : Not that I know of.  I just apt-get installed.12:05
Nameless`someone willing to explain a bit how chmod works? i cannot see teh logic into it :/12:05
NoobThatNeedsHeli will try opening inbound ports now, brb12:05
namiti will explain chmod12:05
Nameless`<o>12:05
XamDMgood n812:06
Nameless`i fail to understand how it knows what user i try to give what specific rights to a dir for example12:06
Abountuhow can I get and install  JRE 512:06
Abountu?12:06
namitwhy what is wrong wit it12:06
sixtymhzharfooz : sudo apt-get install mozilla-acroread --reinstall12:06
soundray!java12:06
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs12:06
harfoozhmmm....I wonder what I've missed.12:06
P0ldybluefoxicy, Sorry about that.  What about 'Controls' in the Themes dialog.  It changes all colors, but you might not find a theme you like there.  Not sure how to roll your own, but there's always gnome-look.org12:06
namitwell chmod os linked in with also the owner and group12:06
namitdo you uderstand the 755?12:06
i_like_my_bikei have sony vaio with a docking station with dvd and floopy how do i mount them?12:07
crimsunmythica: no need.12:07
crimsunmythica: err, sorry.12:07
Nameless`means owner rwe / group re and public re12:07
mythicai got it working :)12:07
Nameless`but how does it know which is the owner?12:07
mythicaused xawtv -c /dev/video112:07
soundraymythica: glad it worked12:07
Nameless`and it is possible to have multiple owners?12:07
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namitno just goups12:08
harfoozsixtymhz: here's what I'm seeing -- http://penguinsolutions.org/screenshots/Screenshot.png12:08
bluefoxicyP0ldy:  thanks, you don't know what I'm after though.  I know someone who edits a configuration file that changes only the colors of the controls, while you use the exact same theme.  He's not around though... heh.12:08
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marcieHi...another driver question. I have a tape drive for backup...i checked the Wiki but there is nothing on them12:08
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Nameless`namit but suppose i got User A of Group A and user B of Group B and i want them both to be capable to alter a directory/file12:09
marcieOr i'm putting in the wrong key words12:09
Nameless`thats not possible?12:09
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P0ldybluefoxicy, Yeah, I was searching around in ~ for specific conf files for it, but came up short.  I'm still new to it meself.12:09
ompaulmarcie, check out the command tar12:09
namitadd user A and user B to same group12:09
mythicasoundray, yeah thanks fella12:09
kbrookskevin_:12:09
bluefoxicyP0ldy:  alright, thanks though.  I'll keep looking.12:09
marcieompaul: in the wiki?12:09
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Nameless`its possible to have users to be part of multiple groups?12:10
P0ldybluefoxicy, hope you find it, I'm interested in that too12:10
kbrookskevin_: don't say to the channel to not bother "trying" EU12:10
bluefoxicyP0ldy:  nods.12:10
namitwhy can you not add yourself to another goup?12:10
marcieThanks again12:10
slackernNameeater: yes12:10
Nameless`i fail to see logic as i'm more used todo user permissions via w2k12:10
slackernsorry Nameless`12:10
brokengunif i modify a config file or something do i have to restart for the changes to happen?12:10
Nameless`hmmm i see12:10
kevin_kbrooks, why? what if other people have the same problem? They won't know what's wrong.12:10
ompaulmarcie, on the command line more so, >>man tar<< or get a "tape faq" if there is one on the wiki (don't know or out of mr google) the tar command stands for tape archive12:11
namit*group12:11
namityes it is12:11
namitlook at `id group`12:11
slackernNameless`: just try typing groups in a termnial with your user and you see which groups you are a member of.12:11
Nameless`hmm12:11
slackernNameless`: that might show you the logic :)12:11
sixtymhzharfooz : Check PM12:11
Nameless`thats cool12:11
gravesonis there a howto on keyboard shortcuts etc out there12:11
iNikuNameless`: the way it works is that each directory or file can have three sets of permissions. one for the owner (of which there can only be one), one for the group (of whic hthere can also only be one) and one for all the others. you set the owner and group with chown and the permissions with chmod, but you knew that12:11
Nameless`thats going to be a messy thing :P12:11
iNikuthe important thing to realize is that a user can be a member in several groups12:12
harfoozsixtymhz: what's PM?12:12
harfoozpermissions?12:12
NoobThatNeedsHelsoundray: how do i make this change with my router?12:12
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Nameless`oki getting wiser now :P12:12
iNikuso for your case with users A and B, add both users to group C, make the directory group C and make the permissions 77512:12
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kbrookskevin_: because !automati says its unsafe, and by announcing that people shouldn't try EU just because "EU's repos" have been down, it leaves people with almost nothing12:12
Nameless`ok /me is going to test stuff :D12:12
kbrooks!automatix*12:12
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks12:12
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sixtymhzharfooz : did you do 'sudo apt-get install acroread' ?12:13
harfoozyeah -- I did it first.12:13
JoshRAwhy is DVD playback slow?12:13
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JoshRALagged etc12:13
kevin_!automatix12:13
hyphenatedJoshRA: because your DMA settings are wrong?12:13
ubotufrom memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.12:13
sixtymhzharfooz : did you do anything else afterwards?12:13
kevin_!automatix*12:13
ubotukevin_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:13
harfoozapt-get install acroread-plugins12:13
ompaulkbrooks, kevin_ please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic this channel is far to busy for that12:13
i_like_my_bikeHow Do I mount a docking stations drives?12:13
hyphenatedubotu: tell JoshRA about DMA12:13
kbrookskevin_: i was correcting myself12:13
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JoshRAhyphenated: I have set it like the guide says, but still slow12:13
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slackernJoshRA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28RestrictedFormats%29#head-389f8b000408629ef4fbb99723cfe0133fe31e7e12:14
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hyphenatedJoshRA: the guide that ubotu just told you to read a bit on?12:14
sixtymhzharfooz : I didnt install those.  I just did acroread and mozilla-acroread12:14
harfoozlet me try removing acroread-plugins12:14
sixtymhzharfooz : try removing them and try again.12:14
Nameless`ok going to play a bit with this chown/chmod stuff :P12:14
AlohaWolfanyone else having a problem with sound being broken in dapper?12:14
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JoshRA`It is the same thing but I got the link from the RestrictedFormats page12:14
hyphenatedAlohaWolf: #ubuntu+112:14
AlohaWolfI just saw that12:14
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paniqhey everyone, is there a repository for pyxpcom debian/ubuntu builds?12:15
sixtymhzharfooz : I would do a 'sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread --reinstall' after removing12:15
hyphenatedJoshRA: ok, can you run 'hdparm /dev/hdc' in a shell and put the output in a pastebin?12:15
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harfoozsixtymhz: trying right now.12:15
harfoozsame exact behavior.12:16
sixtymhzharfooz : good luck12:16
JoshRAI will when I get ubuntu back up and running, I have since installed a differnt distro which had no problem, I am redownloading the ISO to reinstall12:16
Snow_Shelterdoes anyone know how I can get OpenGL rendering (by hardware) working in my 32-bit chroot? It works in the host OS.12:16
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harfoozI restarted ff also.12:16
i_like_my_bikeHow Do I mount a docking stations drives?12:16
sixtymhzharfooz : you do the reinstall?12:16
harfoozyeah12:16
JoshRAI was asking so I can have something tp print to try to fix it hyphenated12:16
harfooz# apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread --reinstall12:16
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Nameless`hmmm tnx a lot peeps. i seem to get more stuff done now with this user stuff :P12:17
harfoozsixtymhz: would mind to run this dpkg -L mozilla-acroread | grep nppdf12:17
kevin_!automatix12:17
ubotuI heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.12:17
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hyphenatedJoshRA: well, I can't recommend any pages to print until it's clear what the problem is (on a technical level)12:18
JoshRAI will do the RMA crap when it is installed12:18
JoshRAand see if you are online then, How long will you be on?12:18
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sixtymhzharfooz : Okay. Then what do you want to know?12:19
harfoozdo you see the plugin in the path /usr/lib/firefox/plugins?12:20
robinswI didn't get a 'harumph' from that guy.12:20
sixtymhzno12:20
harfoozI'm not seeing it there.12:20
robinswHi, guys12:20
sixtymhzShould need it12:20
sixtymhzshoudlnt12:20
harfoozhowever, when I cd to that directory, it's there.12:20
robinswAny idea how I can play xVID files using Totem or Mplayer?12:20
sixtymhzI got /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/nppdf.so12:20
hyphenatedJoshRA: I'll be here a while12:20
sixtymhzand in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so12:21
harfoozme too12:21
sixtymhzI have 5 places12:21
sixtymhztry reinstall firefox12:21
sixtymhz*shrugs*12:21
sixtymhzim stumped12:21
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harfoozme too.12:21
sixtymhzSorry bro.12:21
sixtymhz='[12:21
harfooztime for a break -- thanks for the help.12:21
robinswAny idea how I can play xVID files using Totem or Mplayer, guys?12:21
harfoozIt's helpful to know that at least it's supposed to work ;-)12:22
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slackernrobinsw: have you read about restrictedformats in the wiki?12:22
P0ldyrobinsw, have you installed ffdshow ?12:22
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robinswUm...12:22
robinswNo! :)12:22
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robinswFfdshow, yes?12:23
slackern!RestrictedFormats12:23
uboturestrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats12:23
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robinswWhat's the easiest way to install ffdshow?12:26
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Malinhmm12:26
Malinsudo apt-get install ffdshow?12:27
robinswCheers12:27
liran_any ideas anyone what are the implications of installing the linux-686-smp package? im currently runing 2.6.15-22-386 with fglrx (as xorg-driver-fglrx)12:28
bhundvenafaik, that's the way to install any package ;)12:28
robinswffdshow doesn't exist. :-S12:28
sixtymhzharfooz : Looks in firefox preferences and then Downloads.  Look in the View & Edit Actions part.12:28
bhundvenrobinsw: apt-cache search ffdshow12:28
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robinswbhundven, that returns nothing.12:30
robinswJust takes me back to the prompt.12:30
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ToHellWithGAhow do i open .wmv porn files in linux?12:30
bhundvenrobinsw: then there isn't a package. You should look around.12:30
robinswFuck that.12:30
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P0ldyheh12:30
JoshRAerr LOL, very forward12:31
hyphenatedubotu: tell ToHellWithGA about RestrictedFormats12:31
ToHellWithGAthat's been the hardest part of my transition12:31
Toran'hardest'. Yeah, i bet you were hard.12:31
JoshRAI bet12:31
ToranWoops. I mean, it was hard.12:31
bhundvenhehe12:31
Drac|Macgnome-panel suddenly won't let me resize it to anything smaller than 25 pixels in height! What happened? I need it to be 22!12:31
Drac|MacOh..12:31
Drac|MacIt just changed. Weird.12:31
P0ldyshit happens.12:31
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hyphenatedToHellWithGA: they're 'restricted' because of the format (wmv) not because of the content ;-)12:32
ToHellWithGAthanks hyphenated12:32
ToHellWithGAyeah i totally understand12:32
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ToHellWithGAi used that page to setup mp3 and flash and java12:32
ToHellWithGAjust didn't think of video codecs at the time12:32
ToHellWithGAbut i've been using linux for almost a week and it's becoming unbearable having no access to my good old .wmv porn12:33
hyphenatedI'd probably have got video formats working first.12:33
ironucklesubotu : when is dapper coming out?12:33
ubotuironuckles: I think you lost me on that one12:33
P0ldyjune 112:33
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hyphenatedI have an ipod to play mp3s anyway, and I barely care for flash and java12:33
ToHellWithGAout of curiousity, if i were to upgrade to dapper would i have to come anew with all of my software?12:34
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MystaMaxhello, i just reinstalled Ubuntu, and I'm looking to make sure I install the right SMP 686 kernel, I have a Intel Xeon 2.8 Dual processor, last time i tried, the computer would lock up soon after logging in w/ gnome12:34
gnosticapexNickrud12:34
hyphenated'anew'? you probably wouldn't have to learn many new software programs. it'll mostly be more recent versions rather than different default applications12:34
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giacushello12:34
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Snow_Shelteranyone know how to get OpenGL rendering working in a chroot?12:35
ToHellWithGAhyphenated: a mean reinstall the software.  i've been doing ./configure, make, make install from source to get newest versions anyway :)12:35
ToHellWithGA*i mean12:35
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hyphenatedToHellWithGA: you can use the package manager to update things.. it's a 'cleaner' way than managing all your installs from source packages12:35
giacuscan't get xorg running, is the ATI Mobility Radeon X200M supported , or should I install some driver ?12:36
ToHellWithGAi'm asking if reinstalling the OS would wipe the drive and start from scratch12:36
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ToHellWithGAor if it would be an upgrade more than a clean slate thing12:36
hyphenatedToHellWithGA: no, you'll have the choice of 'install' or 'upgrade'12:36
P0ldyToHellWithGA, yes if you reinstall the OS on the same partition it would be from scratch12:36
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ToHellWithGAlol @ dissention in the ranks12:37
hyphenatedubotu: tell giacus about ati12:37
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teknoprepi have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk12:38
hyphenatedgiacus: read what ubotu told you. my X300 Mobility works fine in breezy12:38
soundrayIs it possible to disable IPv6 entirely?12:38
digisusToHellWithGA, hyphenated, P0ldy: So I can take the Dapper CD, choose upgrade in the process and it will upgrade my breezy and leave intact all config files? That's what you are saying?12:38
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hyphenateddigisus: that's what it's supposed to do.12:39
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P0ldyOr one could just dist-upgrade.  A CD seems superfluous12:39
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bhundvenword. I did just that this morning.12:40
teknoprepanyone on my HDD issue?12:40
digisushyphenated: excellent. And do I have to expect problems with apps I installed on top of the standard apps? Are they automagically upgrade through synaptic?12:40
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digisus... upgrade through synaptic/apt-get as well?12:41
hyphenatedI plan to reinstall from scratch with the dapper release, because I haven't done so for a few releases. Other times, I've just replaced 'hoary' with 'breezy' in /etc/apt/sources.list and update + dist-upgrade to do a complete upgrade12:41
digisusupgrade-d! (damn)12:41
Nameless`sudo apt-get update stuff12:41
Nameless`donish :P12:41
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digisushyphenated: cool, that sounds encouraging. :-)12:42
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soundrayIs there some central configuration item where I can disable IPv6 stuff?12:42
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MystaMaxanyone can point me in the right direction?12:42
hyphenatedsoundray: no idea, I've never tried to disable it12:42
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Sannedigisus, if you installed software from unofficial repositories, you might get problems, though.12:42
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hyphenatedMystaMax: is it already choosing the wrong one for you, or what?12:43
P0ldysoundray, you can  edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases to do it.  See here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17286612:43
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bhundvensoundray: you have to disable it in the modprobe.conf (which is done by means of /etc/modutils/aliases)12:43
MystaMaxhypehnated: i dont understand ur question clearly... sorry12:43
bhundvenah P0ldy got it right.12:43
digisusSanne: ah ah... Hm, to be honest it is difficult to keep track of every small app one installs... Do you have an idea of how I could extract a list of the stuff I installed manually on breezy?12:43
hyphenatedMystaMax: you said before it was using the wrong kernel, now you've reinstalled. is it still using the wrong one or not?12:44
soundrayThanks P0ldy and bhundven!12:44
P0ldysoundray, np12:44
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mournahanneed help with lexmark printer? google searched and didnt find much help! its a Z517 of the Z510 family of lexmark printers.12:44
bhundvenno thanks to me. all to P0ldy12:44
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RhineIs there anyway I can write to my windows drive i dont care if i break it if i cant fix it this way then i reformay anyways12:45
bhundvenecho "thanks" 2&>1 /dev/P0ldy12:45
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Sannedigisus, not really. I'm using Synaptic because it logs every install, and if I compile stuff myself, I always put it into /usr/local. Other than that, I would keep notes.12:45
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P0ldybhundven, lol12:45
bhundven:-D12:45
soundrayecho Thanks | tee -a /dev/P0ldy >/dev/bhundven12:45
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P0ldyRhine, if you don't care, ntfs captive (?) is supposed to do it shakily.  If you don't care, worth a try.  check sourceforge12:45
giacushyphenated: thanks12:46
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RhineOk thank you12:46
digisusSanne: Keeping notes? You mean like.. pen and paper? LOL thought a computer is keeping notes for me! LOL12:46
MystaMaxhyphenated: hold on let me check to see which i loaded12:46
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P0ldyRhine, actually I guess sourceforge isn't hosting it, but there's even a howto in ubuntu forums.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive12:47
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kuitangtry checkinstall12:47
kuitangworks well on slackware; also makes deb packagse12:47
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ahmadWhat is metacity?12:48
digisusSanne: Thanks for the hint in any case.12:48
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teknoprepsomeone say ---> tek12:48
hiddnxhi ppl12:48
Sannedigisus, heh :) Actually, I do that pen and paper stuff sometimes. If you install manually, how should your system know? Did you install much software from unofficial sources or compiled it yourself?12:48
ahmad!tek12:48
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ahmad12:48
teknoprepnice12:49
ahmadlol12:49
ahmad<312:49
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amacdoes turboprint no longer work correctly in dapper?12:49
ahmadWhat is metacity?12:49
amacmy printer spits out 3 pages and locks12:49
bhundvenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacity12:50
kuitangwith slackware, its easy 2 use checkinstall and manage source-compiled pkgs w/ official ones using standard tools12:50
soundrayahmad: a window manager. It draws borders and titlebars, manages fore- and background etc.12:50
digisusSanne: Aaahhh... We might have a misunderstanding. I installed practically ALL throught synaptic. I thought with unofficial you meant one of the unsupported repositories. But perhaps I am wrong? (Oh, and I did not compile anything by myself. ubuntu is such a userfriendly piece, why should I? :-)12:50
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ahmadsoundray, : Where do i go to that program? Cuz i downloaded a theme for it12:51
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Sannedigisus, no, I meant unofficial repositories as well as compiling yourself, although if you did everything through synaptic, that makes it easier, because you have logs. But anyway, unofficial repositories might get you problems when upgrading. Just keep that in mind. Maybe you need to uninstall some programs before you can proceed.12:52
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soundrayahmad: configure gnome/metacity themes through System-Preferences-Themes12:52
gholenAnyone knows how good support there is for D-Links DWL-G510 PCI cards in linux?12:53
Cars_Suckhow do i mount a docking stations drives? DVD and FLOPPY12:53
digisusSanne: I see. I am wondering what takes more time: make a backup of everything, wipe the HD and install Dapper from scratch and then muddle through the configuration again. Or... start muddling through right away. ;-)12:54
P0ldyCars_Suck, are they not in your /etc/fstab ?12:54
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Sannedigisus, if you're prepared to start from scratch anyway, why not try upgrading first and see how far it goes? But I would backup important stuff in any case, at least you config files in your home dir and perhaps /etc also.12:55
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digisusSanne: Wonderful idea, I muddle through forth and back to double the transition time ;-) Sorry for being sarcastic... *smile on the face*12:56
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digisusSanne, probbaly you are right. This way, I would have tried and experienced once how the upgrade process works.12:57
Sannedigisus, I'm sorry to not have the ultimate answer ;), but mixing repositories should be done with care. If you didn't know that, you do now ;).12:57
Sannedigisus, exactly12:58
digisussanne, i heard about the dark places of repositories but Dapper was far you know... ;-)12:58
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Sannedigisus, hehe :)12:58
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outlawcrookso once i get all the files downloaded for my nvidia card what would be next12:59
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outlawcrookor just shut down and put card in12:59
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Sannedigisus, I'm not sure, but there may be some apt or dpkg wizardry to show which package came from which repository. But somebody more advanced in this magic would have to answer that ;)01:00
pyroticI am trying to play wolfenstein: enemy territory and have been for a few days now, but I've been sorting through errors and trying to get it to work, the error I am on now, is this.. 'cannot write to hunkusage.dat' when I join a server, OR, it won't download the packs...any ideas?01:00
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RhineCan someone help me with the second step of this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive01:01
ETronikhi all, can somebody help me with a small  nagging problem with Samba ?01:01
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digisussanne, thanks. Gotta leave. was nice chatting, and many thanks for your tips. -- To all other listeners coding on ubunut: You guys rock! Thanks for providing such an excellent piece of free software! bye bye01:01
pyroticsanne apt-get --help maybe?01:01
digisustu!01:01
Sannedigisus, you're welcome, good luck01:01
digisusthx, bye.01:01
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crazy_penguinGood night! // Jo ejt!01:01
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pyroticWaves*01:02
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ETronikHi all, I have a printer shared from Linux, but access to it from Windows keeps asking for  login , how can I automate/avoid this login popup ?01:03
pyroticguessing nobody is in the smarts of WolfET...01:03
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Sannepyrotic, yeah, that helps mostly, or man apt. I thought pyrotic should know about those commands, so I didn't mention those. I'm sure he/she will be back if not ;)01:03
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cmarkerhello, I am having a problem trying to add snes9x to breezy, could I please get some help?01:03
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reignHello, I'm having trouble with Nvidia GLX and a custom kernel. After compiling my kernel, rebooting,  and installing the nvidia kernel package everything works fine until I reboot. That's when X refuses to load with GLX enabled ... this is happening on two kubuntu machines running nvidia01:04
PShi, sorry this is off-topic, but i have a bash scripting q: if i am executing a bash script how can that script tell which directory it's in?01:05
Sannepyrotic, about ET: it sounds like it wants to write files somewhere but can't, maybe a permission problem? I had ET working in my Debian time and there was a dir under home for that where packs got downloaded to.01:05
pyroticSanne do you have a link anywhere that I could look up to have it explain to me what needs to be done?01:05
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pyrotic!tell reign about nvidia01:05
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hiddnxi have problem with dual boot: (hd0,0) : XP, (hd0,1): freezy breezer01:06
cmarkerI am trying to use Synaptic to find the snes9x package but when I search for snes it finds no packages, I have already added all the repositories.  Why can I not find the package?01:06
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Sannepyrotic, not really, because it worked for me from the start. *Do* you have a dorectory like .etwolf (or so) in your home directory?01:06
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reignpyrotic: I've tried just about everything in there other than renderaccel false, but won't that disable accelerated graphics?01:07
CanadianSnowi need help getting my soundcard detected01:07
hiddnxcan anyone help with grub modifying?01:07
CanadianSnowits from an old ibm 300GL01:07
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pyroticreign I have an nvidia card, and it works fine and I used those instructions.01:07
pyroticSanne hmm.. no I don't01:08
reignI'm using the .run package from nvidia's site, since I'm using a custom kernel I can't use the precompiled versions. If I reboot and install the driver again everything works fine, but I don't wnat to have to install the driver every tiem01:08
kuitangcmarker, go to http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=snes&searchon=names&subword=1&version=stable&release=all01:08
Sannecmarker, you can also try to find it at packages.ubuntu.com01:08
Sannepyrotic, that may be the problem. How did you install ET?01:08
outlawcrookcool01:08
CanadianSnowcan anyone help me wit that plz?01:08
Chris_Tuckerwhats the most common command line partitioner?01:08
outlawcrooki just pluged in my usb scanner and it found iot no prob..and is running01:09
outlawcrookLOL01:09
outlawcrooknice01:09
pyroticSanne had a .run file downloaded, I installed it, and updated it to 2.60, it runs fine, but just won't join the servers due to that error.01:09
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pyrotic!sound01:09
ubotuHelp to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary01:09
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pyrotic!tell canadiansnow about sound01:09
kuitangChris_Tucker, probably fdisk and its variants01:09
kuitangthe best one is parted, though01:10
CanadianSnowthat doesn't help but thx01:10
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Sannepyrotic, sounds just like what I did. I'm trying to remember if it created the .etwolf folder by itself or if I had to do something. I will search around in my archives if there's some notes, hang on a sec if you have time.01:10
reignpyrotic: any other ideas?01:10
pyroticcanadiansnow did you read it? or just look at it and see there is too much work involved...:)01:10
pyroticreign not at the moment, stick around and ask the question every once ina w hile, maybe sombody more 'intellgent' may come around...01:11
reignOk thanks a lot01:11
pyroticSanne I've got plenty of time.. :)01:11
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pyroticreign anytime, wish I could help more!01:11
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pyroticreign did you try using 'easyubuntu' ?01:12
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CanadianSnowi've read it and done everything there01:12
CanadianSnowi dont know what the card is01:12
reigneasybuntu? what's that?01:12
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pyrotic!tell reign about easyubuntu01:12
MystaMaxhyphenated: thanks for you assistance, i have to leave, i will have to pickup tomorrow... thanks again01:13
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marciequestion regarding upgrading thunderbird: i followed the instructions the program works but the link to applications doesn't...i've tried putting in the symbolic link in preferences but i'm stuck01:13
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marcie(mind you it will run from command line at least)01:13
teknoprepi have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk01:13
pyroticcanadiansnow open your case and take the card out and look at it, and tell me what it is...(PS: Shut the machine off before removing the card...)01:13
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reignpyrotic: thing is, I had to compile a custom kernel for SMP, plus I optimized the whole thing ... don't know if that will work01:13
hiddNXanyone knows how to boot ntfs xp from grub?01:13
angelushello, anyone here uses eclipse?01:13
pyroticreign if you compiled your custom kernel, don't you think you should have an idea how to get the videocard too? :P01:14
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PSangelus: i do01:14
reignpyrotic: it's not that I don't know how to install it :P i'm having stupid problems with it01:14
reignI've done this a hundred times before01:14
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AngeluSi'm using ctd and i would like to use auto-insert braces, etc01:14
pyrotichiddNX probably just go into the BIOS and select your other harddrive ...if Grub doesn't detect it already...01:14
pyroticreign Well I wish I could help further, but I'm not sure what to try...hmm01:14
AngeluSi can only use auto-inser-braces when creating .java files01:15
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CanadianSnowpyrotic i cant do that01:15
CanadianSnowbut... "i found information about his driver is ESS Allegro SB16"01:15
reignI'll keep looking around ... this has been driving me crazy for a while now :)01:15
CanadianSnowlol would that help at all01:15
teknoprepcheers for absolutly no help on crap01:15
teknoprepYAY01:15
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teknoprepis everyone on IRC just dumber these days?01:15
AngryElfhey guys, i'm having a consistant problem with dvdrip/libdvdcss2 -- When I "read DVD contents" it only probes the first title on the disc and errors on the second one, then stops "Can't open the title 2 info file"01:15
hiddNXpyrotic: grub can't perform makeactive line while this01:15
AngeluSPS: can you help me?01:15
PSangelus: sorry, i only use it for java01:15
AngryElfthis has been on 3 DVDs now.....and seems to work fine on DVDShrink DVDs01:15
marciehelp with upgraded thunderbird?01:15
pyrotichiddNX grub finds my NTFS XP PRO Drive just fine.. :)01:15
pyroticreign Okay good luck!..01:16
kuitangAngryElf, try dmesg; u might find the error there01:16
hiddNX? - i remember i did it before, but now i don't remember how to..01:16
pyroticteknoprep whats your problem...?01:16
teknoprephde: WDC WD360GD-00FLC0, ATA DISK drive01:16
CanadianSnowpyrotic?01:16
teknoprepi have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk01:16
cmarkerkuitang, how do I install the deb packages from the website your refered me to01:16
teknoprepi have the other 2 as /dev/hde and /dev/hdg01:17
teknoprepthey are both there01:17
marciei think my symbolic link is the problem...01:17
pyroticcanadiansnow why can you not do that?01:17
CanadianSnowi dont know how to take it out01:17
CanadianSnowbut aperently the driver is ESS Allegro SB1601:17
Reonteknoprep: are all the hd's formatted ?01:17
CanadianSnowbut... i dont know what that means...01:17
pyroticteknoprep hmm...(Reon) can probably help you more than I can.. :)01:17
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hiddNXpyrotic: what is written in your menu.lst about it?01:18
ReonI'm just taking a wild guess here01:18
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teknoprepReon can't format it if i can't get to it01:18
EruditeHermithey, does anyone know how to get the bcm43xx wireless to work? I got errors about firmware not loading so I installed bcm43xx-fwcutter and followed the instructions. Now the firmware seems to load but dmesg says ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready01:18
teknoprepfdisk -l /dev/hdk can't be done01:18
teknoprepbecuase there is no /dev/hdk01:18
teknoprephmm01:18
pyroticcanadiansnow ...unscrew the screw...and pull...look for the name of the card... push back in...put screw back in, close case... turn computer on.01:18
KaosXwhy dont you format it in a different slot just to make sure its formatted?01:19
CanadianSnowESS Allegro SB1601:19
marciecanadian snow...is your computer an IBM01:19
KaosXthen put it back01:19
pyrotichiddNX It's on my other box, but, when grub loads it.. it reads it as.. "Windows XP NTFS on /dev/hda1"...if that helps...it should read it, maybe you have your jumpers set wrong.. ?01:19
tank1500Question: I can't seem to find any programs that stream shoutcast right.  Anyone know of a program?01:19
teknoprephmm01:19
teknoprepi am lost lol01:19
pyroticcanadiansnow One second.01:19
teknoprepi have never seen this happen before01:19
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Reonteknoprep: Is the drive detected at all when linux starts up. I know raid controllers ave their own bios where you can set stuff. have you looked in the cards bios. should be accessable when the pc boots up.01:20
teknoprepreon the server rocognized in dmesg and /var/messages the HDE HDG and HDK drives01:20
marciemy system won't recognize a lot of hardware...people seem to think it's because it's an IBM01:20
cmarkerSanne, how do I install the packages found on packages.ubuntu.org? can I get them to be listed in synaptic?01:20
KaosXdo live cd's recognize the device...like the UBD?01:20
teknoprepreon yes01:20
AngryElfkuitang, dmesg has some ambiguous lines in there about it no errors per se01:20
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teknoprephdk: 72303840 sectors (37019 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(33)01:20
NickGarveyhdk?01:20
NickGarveyjeez01:20
NickGarveythats a lot of hds01:21
teknopreplol01:21
NickGarvey(or cd drives or whatever)01:21
tank1500And another problem is that I can't seem to get any programs to play mpg files01:21
teknoprepyeah HDD's01:21
hiddNXpyrotic: may be i have to change there (hd0,0) to (hd0,1) ?01:21
teknoprepits skipping some of the letters tho01:21
Reonteknoprep: if that is the case then you should be able to make it work. just dont ask me how :)01:21
Sannecmarker, yes, if they are there, they are also in Synaptic. You need to have the respective repositories (universe, multiverse) enabled. Which it is in, you see on the website.01:21
pyroticcanadiansnow Open up Terminal, type 'lspci' hit enter, copy and paste that all, and go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste it, and give me the link01:21
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teknoprepReon LOL01:21
hiddNXpyrotic: it is installed on first hardrive alone01:21
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pyrotichiddNX Ok, so you have 2 harddrives on your computer, 1 with XP 1 with Ubuntu, correct?01:22
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teknoprepdoes anyone know how to create a new /dev/hdk ?01:22
teknoprepis this possible?01:22
Reonteknoprep: Maybe post in the hardware forums with all the details files attached and someone might have an idea.01:22
teknoprepi thought they were auto created01:22
hiddNXpyrotic: yes01:22
cmarkersanne, I have added all the repositories and though snes9x shows up on the website under multiverse it is not showing up in synaptic01:22
Chris_Tuckerwhats the command to format as ext3?01:22
hiddNXpyrotic: sata onboard01:22
kuitangyes, u can make /dev/hdk, just make sure u know the appropriate major/minor #01:23
NickGarveyteknoprep: yeah I think they are assigned by where they are..01:23
pyrotichiddNX Ok, and Grub loader only recognizes your Ubuntu drive, but doesn't see the XP drive, when loading?01:23
teknoprephmm01:23
AngryElfwhat is /dev/hdk?01:23
kuitangthey're in the kernel documentation if u hav it01:23
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teknoprephdk: 72303840 sectors (37019 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(33)01:23
teknoprepthat is HDK01:23
CanadianSnowpyrotic, go to the pastebin and search "CanadianSnow" there are only like 4 there, one is lspci01:23
teknoprepbut there is no /dev/hdk01:23
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teknoprepwhy would a SATA HDD come up as UDMA(33) ?01:23
eXistenZwhen will ShipIt be opened for dapper drake01:23
pyroticcanadiansnow so your telling someone that's going to help you, what to do, to help you? :)01:23
NickGarveyheh01:23
Sannepyrotic, (nothing in my archives about ET but) I just read on a website about possible problems running ET involving the ownership of ~/.etwolf. Have a look: http://cs.unk.edu/~lowry/wiki/doku.php?id=ubuntu_enemy_territory_howto01:23
InazadCan I have some help with ftp-ssl?01:24
CanadianSnowmarcie canadian snow...is your computer an IBM   :  yes, and if u dont put a space i can see ur comment in red :)01:24
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hiddNXpyrotic: it pints some error on line "makeactive"01:24
InazadCan I have some help with ftp-ssl or something else...?01:24
Chris_Tuckerwhats the command to format as ext3?01:24
hiddNXprints01:24
Sannecmarker, I will try it also, sec01:24
Reonteknoprep: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive01:24
kuitangteknoprep, wat kernel?01:24
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kuitangfor 2.6.16.16 (mine) hdk is: 57 block       Sixth IDE hard disk/CD-ROM interface01:24
kuitang                  0 = /dev/hdk          Master: whole disk (or CD-ROM)01:24
kuitang                 64 = /dev/hdl          Slave: whole disk (or CD-ROM)01:24
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pyrotichiddNX hmm...unusual...01:24
CanadianSnowim just telling u its already there01:24
pyroticSanne Ok THanks I'll have a look at that site!...01:24
Syco54645how can i make it so that my normal user can unmount my cdroms?01:24
pyroticcanadiansnow..k. one sec please.01:25
kuitangsomething liek this: /dev/hdc        /mnt/cdrom      iso9660 ro,user,noauto          0 001:25
CanadianSnowits not hard to find is all im saying, otherwise i'd like re-paste it01:25
CanadianSnowthx01:25
teknoprepOK01:25
kuitangin fstab, of course01:25
Sannecmarker, if I search for snes9x at packages.ubuntu.com for Breezy, I get 4 packages. Is the package you want to install among those?01:25
teknoprepsorry for this paste but here it goes01:25
teknoprep *-disk01:25
hiddNXpyrotic: i have to do it again, to see the error...01:25
teknoprep       product: WDC WD360GD-00FLC001:25
teknoprep       vendor: Western Digital01:25
teknoprep       physical id: 001:25
teknoprep       bus info: ide@5.001:25
teknoprep       logical name: /dev/hdk01:25
kuitangoh wait; ubuntu uses /media, not /mnt01:25
teknoprepITS F**King /dev/hdk wtf01:25
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CanadianSnowlol01:26
pyrotic!tell teknoprep about pastebin01:26
CanadianSnowgj teknoprep01:26
tank1500Syco, you try using the "sudo" command?01:26
cmarkersanne, yes, all 4 I really need01:26
teknoprepi know about pastebin01:26
teknoprepty01:26
kuitangteknoprep, is it SATA?01:26
pyroticcanadiansnow I dunno what to tell you, sorry.01:26
teknoprepYES01:26
Syco54645kuitang: i have that and it still will not allow me01:26
soundraySyco54645: if you set CDs to auto-mount in System-Preferences-Removable..., your users can unmount CDs in nautilus with right-click and Eject.01:26
pyroticteknoprep I appologize, didn't see the 'sorry' up there.01:26
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Syco54645soundray: what if i want to use the terminal?01:27
CanadianSnowwhat about how/where to find drivers for a "ESS Allegre SB16" ?01:27
Samuli^hiddNX, what HDD has the windows installed?01:27
pyrotichiddNX I wish I could help you further... can you even boot to the XP drive through BIOS an selecting the other hdd ?01:27
Reonteknoprep: sudo fdisk /dev/hdk01:27
CanadianSnowcaz i have no clue, but aperently i have to install drivers for my soundcard???01:27
hiddNXpyrotic: yes i can01:27
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teknoprepUnable to open /dev/hdk01:27
tank1500Syco, I believe you have to put "sudo" before whatever you want to do with root powers01:27
Sannecmarker, I can see all of them in my Synaptic. Are you also on Breezy, and do you have the multiverse repository enables?01:27
Reonteknoprep: My sata drives are seen as /dev/sda01:27
AngryElfalright, it's got to be a problem with libdvdcss2 (1.2.9) cause now i can't even watch DVDs01:27
soundraySyco54645: then you're going to have to sudo. Make sure all windows are closed and all shells cd'ed away from the CD filesystem.01:27
teknoprepwell not mine01:27
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pyrotichiddNX hm.. did you install Ubuntu after you installed XP or Xp after ubuntu?01:27
cmarkersanne, I am using breezy and I enabled all the repositories01:28
slackernteknoprep: what sata controller is it on?01:28
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hiddNXSamuli^: i have two sata drives wdc160, first is xp01:28
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AngryElf!libdvdcss201:28
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)01:28
teknoprepRocketRaid01:28
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Reonteknoprep: They should be seen as sdx unless it has something to do with the rai controller.01:28
Syco54645soundray: i know how to do that, it just complains about my fstab.01:28
pyrotichiddNX sorry I couldn't help you, I must go now.. I have my own problems to fix.. :)01:28
CanadianSnowpyrotic could u tell me how/where to find drivers for a "ESS Allegre SB16" ?01:28
Samuli^hiddNX, o-kay. So that's not the problem.01:28
hiddNXpyrotic: ubuntu after xp01:28
teknoprepthe raid controller is a rocketraid PCI card01:28
teknoprepbrb01:28
kuitangor u can just use mplayer01:28
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soundraySyco54645: what does it say?01:28
Reonteknoprep: did ya try fdisk01:28
pyrotic!tell canadiansnow about sound01:29
pyrotic!canadiansnow right there :P01:29
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pyrotic01:29
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Sannecmarker, just to be sure, if you want, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so I can have a look, ok?01:29
nullified!java01:29
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:29
tank1500Syco... you just type "sudo" no quotes and then command01:29
CanadianSnow...ok01:29
hiddNXSamuli^: what to do?01:29
nullified!javadebs01:29
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Syco54645tank1500: i dont want to have to do that or type in my password01:29
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pyroticAuf Wiedersehn!~01:29
kuitangSyco54645: everybody needs access to cdrom device as well as the fstab entry.  A lazy way would be chown root:users hdc01:29
XpCrashis there a package or update for one of the video players for ubuntu , that has support for wmv 's01:30
kuitangmpalyer01:30
kuitangmplayer*01:30
Syco54645soundray: it isnt doing it now that i ask... it just did it yesterday01:30
Samuli^hiddNX,  It might help if you pasted your menu.lst for us to see.01:30
Syco54645oh well01:30
cmarkersanne, posting now, give me a sec please01:30
Syco54645thanks for all the help01:30
teknoprepReon yes01:30
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teknoprepReon Unable to open /dev/hdk01:30
kuitangnot sure if ubuntu support; you'll probably hav 2 compile from source 2 get all functionality01:30
Syco54645kuitang: i realize that i could do that, but it can be done via the fstab01:30
hiddNXSamuli^: here?01:30
teknoprepreon its a RocketRAID 1640 from HightPoint01:30
Syco54645well i am going to play some mame with my new arcade controller that i just built01:30
Syco54645so have fun01:30
kuitangteknoprep, r u sure u hav ur sata drivers?01:30
Samuli^hiddNX, to pastebin.01:30
teknoprepkuitang ?01:31
XpCrashmplayer doesnt play it01:31
teknoprepkuitang i got 2 of them working... so yes01:31
Reonteknoprep: I give up, what happens if you connect it to a different port on the raid card ?01:31
teknoprepkuitang they show up in dmesg01:31
hiddNXSamuli^: where is this place?01:31
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cmarkersanne, ok, its posted01:31
teknoprepReon i have to turn it off for that ... can't do that right now01:31
pyroticsanne what was that link again? I lost it :|01:31
Samuli^!tell hiddNX about pastebin01:31
kuitangteknoprep, go to ur dev directory01:31
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Sannecmarker, paste the url here, please01:31
teknoprepkuitang yeah ok what?01:31
kuitangpaste the ls entry for hdk01:31
tank1500Any ideas as to what program I should use that can play *.mpg files?01:31
cmarkersanne, ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1410201:31
NickGarveytank1500: mplayer works01:31
cmarkersanne, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1410201:31
Sannepyrotic, ah, good you're back. Are you german? The link was http://cs.unk.edu/~lowry/wiki/doku.php?id=ubuntu_enemy_territory_howto01:32
NickGarveytank1500: what I use, theres loads of them though ;)01:32
Khaaaaanhey guys... how come I cannot remove Firefox without removing epiphany?01:32
KhaaaaanAre the two related?01:32
teknoprepkuitang ?01:32
XpCrashtank , you have to download the w32 codecs01:32
pyroticSanne Yes I am German, but I do not know very much German :P01:32
NickGarveyKhaaaaan: well they are both gecko based..01:32
NickGarveynot sure if that has anything to do with anything01:32
tank1500I need w32 codecs?01:32
XpCrashbut for some reason it doesnt have support with wmv files01:32
pyroticSanne THank you for the link by the way :)01:32
NickGarveytank1500: I believe so..01:32
kuitangget them from mplayerhq.hu01:32
pyroticSanne why do you ask? (german)01:32
tank1500package manage have those?01:32
KhaaaaanBut shouldnt I be able to just have epiphany??01:32
XpCrashhold on01:32
kuitangfrom MPLAYERhq.hu01:33
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Samuli^!tell tank1500 about restricted formats01:33
kuitangwho cares about restricted01:33
Sannepyrotic, ah. In case you would understand german, I would recommend *the* german linux gaming site http://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de, maybe there are some tutorials on ET.01:33
teknoprepoh i believe the reason this comes up as IDE is becuase its backwards compatible with IDE...01:33
kuitangmplayerhq.hu has all ur windowz codecs01:33
hiddNXSamuli^: i think i found the error... this is mine01:33
Samuli^tank1500, see the url ubotu told you how to install w32codecs and more.01:33
Sannecmarker, looking...01:33
pyroticSanne Ahh.. I could translate most of it.. but I'm from the States.. :P thanks anyway!..01:33
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XpCrashhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%s , think you can search here01:34
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Sannepyrotic, good luck :)01:34
tank1500kuitang: where do I get that?01:34
XpCrashor just goto the buntu homepage and search it01:34
hiddNXSamuli^: just marked windows hd0,0, while is an ubuntu partition... sorry, i've first to try it right01:34
Reonteknoprep: cd /dev     ls -l hdk01:34
teknoprepReon NOTHING01:34
bjpatrickanyone playing WoW on the ubuntu box?01:34
pyroticSanne thanks I'll need it :)01:34
kuitanggo to www.mplayerhq.hu01:34
teknoprepReon sorry for caps01:34
NickGarveyhiddNX: you can try many without booting ubuntu and editing your boot.lst file01:35
pyroticAuf Weidersehn!01:35
Samuli^hiddNX, so you have windows on the second HD?01:35
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Sannecmarker, you don't have multiverse enabled for breezy, only for breezy-backports, if I look correctly.01:35
NickGarveyhiddNX: if you hit e and then edit the line you can edit it temperarly and boot like that, very good for troubleshooting01:35
teknoprepyou know what it shows up with 3 hdd's on the older kernel01:35
teknoprep2.401:35
tank1500sorry kuitang, didn't know that was a site...01:35
Reonteknoprep: sudo lshw -C disk01:36
hiddNXSamuli^: yes, is this remains after booting the edited line?01:36
KhaaaaanSooooo why can't I have just epiphany as a browser?01:36
cmarkersanne, I am sorry, what would I have to do to enable that? I followed the faq on how to add repositories but I guess that did not add the multiverse01:36
Bobakitoois d-link dwl-g510 a good wireless card for linux? it use  module wlan, wlan_wep, ath_pci, ath_rate_sample witch are marked experimental01:36
teknoprepReon that is my post above01:36
Nullifiedguys, I have a problem with java under ubuntu, Java's website shows that im using the latest version, however when i type java -version it shows a old version, any one know how i can solve this?01:36
teknoprepReon the big paste above01:36
Bobakitoodo those driver are open source and will be improved?01:36
teknoprepReon scoll up about 100 lines01:36
Reonteknoprep: lol, the garbled one that is hard to read ?01:36
Samuli^hiddNX, there might be problems having the windows on second HD.01:36
teknoprepReon its garbled toyou?01:37
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hiddNXSamuli^: what problems?01:37
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Samuli^hiddNX, windows not booting :)01:37
teknoprep bus info: ide@5.001:37
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Reonteknoprep: I battle to read info in irc in scrolling text01:37
teknopreplogical name: /dev/hdk01:37
Sannecmarker, I'm just looking over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto myself again because I also did it only once ;). You can put it in per hand, but it might be best first to try doing it in Synaptic, yes?01:38
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AngryElfhey guys -- i'm having a problem with libdvdcss, I've downloaded the deb off of the seveas mirro and dpkg -i 'd it......but i still can't watch encrypted dvds........xine says "The source can't be read.  Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: not disc in drive). (Encrypted or faulty DVD)01:38
AngryElfbut this is while running as root01:38
Reonteknoprep: does it already have information on it ?01:38
hiddNXSamuli^: yes, i experiencied it wiht fedore, but i couln't rewrite my grub to other partition, so i installed ubuntu :)01:38
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cmarkersanne, I understand how to do it by hand and I could do that easily but I am not sure what to add01:38
Sannecmarker, ok, then I'll give you my line, sec01:39
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teknoprepReon no its a new hdd01:39
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teknoprepreon i am going to get the data off the current raid when i can.. back itup... see if the 2.4.x kernel works01:40
teknoprepif it does i am sticking with 2.4.x01:40
Samuli^hiddNX, one thing you could try is map (0,0) (1,0) / map (1,0) (0,0)01:40
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teknoprepthis 2.6.8-11 in debian is blowing my arse01:40
Sannecmarker, (you probably won't use 'de', change it accordingly): deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse01:40
KhaaaaanOkay let me rephrase the question.....01:40
[n3t0] how i can fixed this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1410301:41
InazadI want some help to connect to a secure ftp with ssl and secure listing required.. anyone can help me plz ?01:41
Samuli^hddnx, I don't remember if that's the exact format to do mapping. You have to look it somewhere.01:41
KhaaaaanIs it safe to remove Firefox if I want to only use Epiphany????01:41
Nullifiedguys, I have a problem with java under ubuntu, Java's website shows that im using the latest version, however when i type java -version it shows a old version, any one know how i can solve this?01:41
hiddNXSamuli^: ok, i saw it in grub manual, but touth that this command is just for linux itself.. i'll try it now, thank u01:41
crimsunNullified: set the correct PATH in ~/.bashrc01:41
Nullifieddo i just gedit?01:42
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Samuli^hiddNX, it's map (hd0) (hd1) and vice versa.01:42
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Samuli^hiddNX, just had to check it up myself :)01:42
hiddNXSamuli^: yes :)01:42
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hiddNXSamuli^: manual grub01:42
Nullifiedcrimsun, Do i just gedit ~/.bashrc?01:42
[n3t0] ?01:42
Sannecmarker, here are some more exapmles: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604701:42
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richiefrichNullified, what u trying to do01:43
rexkwondois this dapper help too?01:43
KhaaaaanIs it safe to remove Firefox if I want to only use Epiphany????01:43
richiefrichrexkwondo, yes01:43
crimsunNullified: sure01:43
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Nullifiedrichiefrich, When i do java -version in terminal it shows java 1.4 however java website shows 1.5 which i need for azureus01:44
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svu_do epiphany/firefox support CVS anymation?01:44
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[n3t0] clear01:44
richiefrichNullified, cant u just change your java u run01:44
KhaaaaanIs it safe to remove Firefox if I want to only use Epiphany????01:44
carlCan somebody help me with a problem?01:44
NullifiedI honestly dont know how richiefrich01:44
nickrud_Khaaaaan, epiphany uses firefox, you still need it :)01:45
carlI recently installed ubuntu, and I went to download a program, and I can't download anything01:45
carlIt gives me an error01:45
Khaaaaanahhh okay01:45
KhaaaaanCool01:45
KhaaaaanThank you!! :)01:45
Sannerexkwondo, #ubuntu+1 is especially for dapper, might want to check out.01:45
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rexkwondoI just got through installing flight 7 on my laptop, and whenever I try to access the network settings of my wireless card, I get complete lock-up.  This never happened with any release before.01:45
cmarkersanne, thank you very much, that worked01:46
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carlErm. This thread has more info if anybody can help me01:46
carlhttp://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?page=1&t=13591443#75506172001:46
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googlerhello buddys01:46
Khaaaaanoh man... please tell me epiphany has a pop up blocker!!!01:46
Sannerichiefrich, are you I changed my 'active' java package with update-alternatives, is this maybe what you're looking for?01:46
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Sannecmarker, awesome :)01:47
richiefrichNullified, i forget put i know it's with that update-alternatives,01:47
richiefrichSanne, thats ikt01:47
overridexis there a wine package for ubuntu with oss support? or an extra package that adds it?01:47
Sannerichiefrich, s/are you//01:47
nickrud_Nullified, try sudo update-alternatives --config java01:47
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richiefrichSanne, thanks i knew there was a way01:48
googler------------->what desktop environment everyone prefer ?01:48
Sannerichiefrich :)01:48
richiefrichgoogler, e1701:48
nickrud_mine, googler of course01:48
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carlIs there anybody that can help me?01:48
kevin_hi bimberi!01:48
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richiefrichcarl, problem?01:49
Kadranhi carl01:49
richiefrichNullified,  update-alternatives  <----- u get that01:49
bimberihi kevin_01:49
NullifiedThere are 2 alternatives which provide `java'.01:49
Nullified  Selection    Alternative01:49
Nullified-----------------------------------------------01:49
Nullified      1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.001:49
Nullified*+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java01:49
nickrud_good morning, bimberi01:49
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richiefrichSanne, honestly i run 5 bistros so it's hard to keep all them sotred at times01:50
nickrud_Nullified, then you didn't use a deb to install java, you need to add the path to ~/.bashrc after all :)01:50
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Sanneoverridex, my breezy wine package has oss support, at least I can see it in the audio drivers tab in winecfg (dunno if it actually works, though...)01:50
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richiefrichNullified, u need to install the newer one01:50
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NullifiedIm confuggled now01:51
overridexSanne: if you click "configure" in that window, do you get an error that it doesn't exist?01:51
Sannerichiefrich, yeah, running bistros is pretty hard, all those customers all the time (sorry, I had to) ;)01:51
bimberigood evening nickrud :)01:51
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bimberinickrud_ even01:51
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jonukQuestion:  I'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.10.  When I get to the "Starting Partition" stage, it gets to 100% then the screen goes blank.  Ctrl+C makes the partitioner start over and stall at 52% everytime.01:52
carlSorry, my power went out01:52
Quizzerhave ubuntu-server 5.10 installed .. and when trying to ./configure BitchX ... i get this error configure: error: cannot find setupterm or tgetent01:52
delmarAnyone here know much about setting up a VPN client on on ubuntu to connect to a cisco? are there some nice tools for doing this?01:52
richiefrichSanne, i meant distros01:52
nickrud_bimberi, hm, I guess I need to deghost01:52
Quizzerwhere can i find the package for setupterm or tgetent01:52
gearryI am setting up a new machine, and I am playing around with using NFS to mount /home01:52
Sanneoverridex, no error, I can select it. I'll try to run something, sec.01:52
crimsunQuizzer: libncurses5-dev01:52
carlBut anyway, about my problem01:52
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MitsurugiHow come I can't use my network when I'm conected with a modem?01:52
snowfakedjonuk: check your ram, something like memtest86 when booting from installation cd01:52
carlI can't download anything01:52
jonukI'm positive its a problem with my hard drives (specifically the 1st one).  I have 2 HD's, one is a 40GB IDE that has Windows on it, the other is a brand new 250GB IDE with completely unallocated space.01:52
gearryseems to work fine except for when I run "sudo aptitude"01:52
Sannerichiefrich, if yourse you meant distros (I was making fun of you)01:52
Quizzercool thanks ..01:52
carlIt gives me an error.01:52
jonuksnowflaked: I'm really sorry, can you be more specific01:53
richiefrichSanne, :)01:53
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teknoprephow do i remove kernel-image-2.6.8-3-38601:53
gearryI get permission denied trying to create .aptitude and write ~/.aptitude/config01:53
carl"XML parsing error: not well-formed "01:53
teknoprepcan i just01:53
teknoprepapt-get remove kernel-image-2.6.8-3-38601:53
snowfakedjonuk: sorry im' too drunk to be specific01:53
teknoprepwhen in the 2.4 kernel?01:53
carl"Location: chrome://mozapps/content/plugins/plugInInstallerWizard.xul "01:53
jonuksnowfaked: i'm drunk too, this is a problem01:53
jonukhappy hour01:53
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snowfakedjonuk: i just remember that i had problem partitioning hard drive (it hanged at aroud 50%) when i had bad memory in my machine01:53
gearrycan anyone point me to where I may be going wrong when using sudo and an NFS mounted /home ?01:53
crimsunQuizzer: hmm, what are you trying to compile?01:53
kevin_is there a way to make my own livecd, i.e. I want to be able to have a livecd disc containing a program that is not default in ubuntu01:53
snowfakedjonuk: try to click those Fn buttons like F2 or so.. there's something like memtest86 you can use to test your RAM01:54
delmarjonuk, drunk already? hah. and its what.. monday there?01:54
swissbearhi01:54
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Sanneoverridex, it seems to work, I get sound.01:54
jonukyes, monday and its 7:5301:54
gearryI run memtest from the live CD01:54
jonukhappy hour was earlier...hah01:54
gearryjust type memtest at the boot prompt01:54
Mitsurugihappy hour =] 01:54
delmarJonuk, not too early then, but Monday? sh1t dude i thought i was bad.01:54
gearryinstall CD has it too01:54
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Quizzerwhat about this .. i have Tcl 8.4 installed .. configure: error: cannot find tcl.h01:55
carlThis thread has the info on my problem, please help me01:55
carlhttp://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?page=1&t=13591443#75508399301:55
bimberidelmar: there's a package called vpnc ...01:55
jonukcan't beat Applebee's at happy hours...half off appetizers and drinks01:55
overridexSanne: interesting...01:55
snowfakedluckily i'm oing to work next time on thursday so i can drink ;)01:55
IceToxHow can I check which distro a linux computer has?01:55
swissbearI am a new new ubuntu user and I ve a question01:55
overridexSanne: what source are you using for your wine?01:55
Sanneoverridex, but of course I actually run alsa, so the also oss compatibility layer would get used, I think.01:55
bimberi!info vpnc01:55
ubotuvpnc: (Cisco-compatible VPN client), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 0.3.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 192 kB01:55
gearryI have used vpnc01:56
Sanneoverridex, this is the official breezy wine version, not the one from winehq01:56
delmarbimberi, nice. found it.01:56
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overridexSanne: ah ok01:56
Nullifiedrichiefrich, Any way i can remove all current versions of java and just install the new one?01:56
gearryworks pretty well, but did not support rekeying the last I knew01:56
IceToxHow can I check which distro a linux computer has using terminal?01:56
richiefrichNullified, if u want yes01:56
Sanneoverridex, this one: Wine 2005072501:56
jonukhere's the weird thing about my problem01:56
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swissbearsomeone could tell me were is the corrisponding of task manager?01:56
jonukwhen I unplug my 40 GB drive and just use my 250 GB drive01:56
Nullifiedrichiefrich, Any ideas on how i would do this?01:56
jonukthe partitioner loads01:57
richiefrichcarl, apt-get install mozilla-firefox01:57
Bobakitoowill XGL be default desktop in next release?01:57
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NickGarveyswissbear: from the command line you can use ps ax01:57
NickGarveyswissbear: there is a GUI for it though, I don't know it but I'm sure someone here does01:57
richiefrichNullified, apt-get install01:57
crimsunBobakitoo: unlikely given its current state, but who knows...?01:57
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mish4is ubuntu good for n00bs?01:57
NickGarveymish4: designed that way ;)01:57
Bobakitoomish4, ubuntu is good for every humain been as said on the site01:57
Sanneoverridex, dunno if this is necessary, but I also have some snd-*-oss kernel module loaded (check with lsmod)01:57
richiefrichNullified, or snyaptic01:57
mish4i tried fedora but i dont like it, i was configuring my monitor and then it was like okay im not gonna work no more01:58
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NickGarveyswissbear: gnome system monitor01:58
bimberiIceTox: many distros will have an /etc/issue file01:58
jonukA similar problem I had:  When using the LiveCD, the start up stalled at "Starting Volume Enterprise Management"01:58
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jonukI could hit Ctrl+C and get past it though, I'm assuming the problems are related01:58
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kevin_mish4, ubuntu has a livecd you can try out before even installing it on your hard drive, good enough to find out if it's good enough for you :) Just remember it will run a bit slower as it will need to load itself into memory01:58
Bobakitoomish4, so far it got all my hardware right the first time, except nvidia driver witch i had to install extra package to get 3d01:59
carlrichiefrich, do what now?01:59
kevin_mish4 is gone ;)01:59
richiefrichcarl, reinstall FF01:59
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delmarbimberi, so when i run the gui front end.. kvpnc .. i get a error window.... says... please check that the "dcopserver" program is running01:59
daryl_!wow01:59
ubotuTo run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource01:59
carlHow would I go about doing that one?01:59
carl>>;01:59
richiefrichcarl, thats what the tread said01:59
richiefrichcarl, apt-get install mozilla-firefox01:59
hiddNXSamuili^: its works! thank you!01:59
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uncle_bezhow do I get a list of channels on this server using colloquy?01:59
timmy334if I'm using a bttv card that would need software encoding, what can I use to simply RECORD video?01:59
carlk01:59
Bobakitooubotu, you know if that build of wine can run guildwars?02:00
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Bobakitoo02:00
wasabi__uncle_bez: Isn't Colloquy a MacOS IRC client?02:00
richiefrichcarl, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox02:00
uncle_bezoops, sorry wrong room. ;)02:00
Quizzerwhy would i get this error .. configure: error: cannot find tcl.h02:00
wasabi__Heh.02:00
jonukokay different question02:00
richiefrichcarl, i meant that02:00
Quizzerwhen i have tcl8 installed02:00
swissbearyes! thank you so much02:00
jonukI was able to get the partitioner up without my 40gb hard drive plugged in02:00
NickGarveyQuizzer: have the source for it?02:00
jonukI made partitions like this on my 250 GB drive02:00
jonuk10GB /root primary partition02:00
Quizzeri dont know i installed tcl8.4 with the package02:00
NickGarveyQuizzer: then I doubt it02:00
jonuk20GB /home logical partition02:00
carlWhere is that, richiefrich?02:01
jonuk512MB /swap logical partition02:01
carl>>;02:01
QuizzerNickGarvey .. how do i get tcl.h02:01
richiefrichcarl, open a terminal02:01
jonukand then I tried makin the remaining 220GB or whatever a FAT32 partition02:01
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bimberidelmar: sorry i only knew of vpnc's existence - never used it personally :|02:01
NickGarveyQuizzer: download the source02:01
richiefrichcarl, it's in the menu someplace02:01
delmarok02:01
bimberi!channels02:01
ubotuFor a list of Freenode channels try http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode02:01
jonukbut I got this error: "The attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in IDE1 master partition #3 /usr failed"02:01
donvellahows this coming from a windows user, in windows, i can goto Explorer and find any file that im after, im having trouble finding my way around linux, i can use the terminal comfortably, not the best but i can find my way around, im just wondering why things are so difficult to locate and change?02:01
Quizzerfrom .. you got a link02:01
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NickGarveyQuizzer: no I'm sure google does, google tcl02:02
richiefrichjonuk, why u do that02:02
Quizzeror an apt-get package02:02
NickGarveyQuizzer: sourceforge02:02
richiefrichjonuk, u cant make a fat32 that big iirc02:02
jonukwell, i wanted to use the rest as shared space between Windows and Linux02:02
carlI already have the newest version of firefix02:02
richiefrichcarl, ok but u get errors right02:02
carlYes02:02
bimberiuncle_bez: that ubotu factoid is for you - i realise it's not a colloquy specific answer though02:02
richiefrichcarl, then just re-install it02:02
IceToxthanks bimberi02:02
carlOkay02:02
jonukhow big can fat32 be?02:02
NickGarveyQuizzer: here02:03
richiefrichjonuk, iirc 4 G02:03
NickGarveyQuizzer: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/tcl/tcl8.5a4-src.tar.gz?download02:03
CyaniCs|testingtotal file system size? or file size?02:03
jonukrichie: i thought that was just filesize on a FAT3202:03
jonukfile system size02:03
CyaniCs|testingyes. 4gb = max file size02:03
carlHow do I uninstall something?02:03
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nickrudjonuk, I think 32gb?02:03
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carlSorry for being linux ignorant02:03
jonuki tried to make 220GB file system size02:03
Flannel8gb is max.02:03
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NickGarveyCarl: did you get it with apt-get02:03
jonuknickrud: oh okay, thanks02:03
CyaniCs|testingnot, its 2TB02:03
carlExplain that to me please02:04
CyaniCs|testingsorry. No, it's 2TB02:04
CyaniCs|testingmax file system02:04
Flannelno, file system is 8gb.02:04
richiefrichFlannel, thats it, yes02:04
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Samuli^Flannel, 4GB is maximum file size for fat3202:04
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FlannelSamuli^: file size, not disk size.02:04
CyaniCs|testingactually, im corrected, 8TB max file system size02:04
jonukCyaniCs, so I should be able to partition 220GB on FAT32?02:04
uncle_bezthanks bimberi!, i'm used to using xchat02:04
monteirois there a way to put a bash script working at startup ?02:04
CyaniCs|testingyeah, but you will need a more advanced partitioner than windows to do it.02:04
Samuli^Flannel, there's a difference between GB and TB :)02:04
googlerMax for FAT32 = 32GB02:04
CyaniCs|testinglike fdisk on a live linux02:04
bimberiuncle_bez: np, me too :)02:05
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CyaniCs|testing#googler if its 32GB, then why do i have a 160GB fat32 on my desk?02:05
Samuli^jonuk, why would you want to do that?02:05
Samuli^fat32 is lousy file system02:05
googlerwhat !!!!!!!02:05
QuizzerNickGarvey : k .. downloaded .. uncompressed and running ./configure02:05
googlerr u sure?02:05
jonukSamuli, I just wanted to make the rest of the space to be shared between Windows and Linux02:05
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NickGarveyQuizzer: :)02:05
donvellais ext3 good?02:05
nickrudheh. 2TB. I shouldn't trust quick searches02:05
CyaniCs|testingWestern Digital external 160 dual mode02:05
NickGarveygoogler: wait wait02:06
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CyaniCs|testingusb2/139402:06
jonukI want to access Music files through both Linux and Windows02:06
Quizzerthen i do make after the ./configure and then make install02:06
Samuli^jonuk, o-kay., I guess it's about the only choice.02:06
NickGarveygoogler: WINDOWS only allows fat to be 3202:06
CyaniCs|testing160GB fat3202:06
Paul8688googler, i have 80gig fat3202:06
googlerok nick02:06
NickGarveygoogler: linux on the other hand ;)02:06
CyaniCs|testingno, even windows allows 8TB fat3202:06
NickGarveyQuizzer: check the INSTALL or README file, but normally yes thats it02:06
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Quizzerok02:06
carlHow do I uninstall firefox?02:06
NickGarveyCyaniCs|testing: really? I haven't been able to get that working02:06
snowfakedi think windows allows you to read larger than 32GB, but doesn't support creating larger than 32GB02:06
donvellajonuk: i use Ubuntu Dapper, and i can access my NTFS drive on linux.02:06
CyaniCs|testingits a 16bit addressing that restricts to 32GB02:06
NickGarveyCarl: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox02:06
googler80GB as one partition ?02:06
NickGarveyCyaniCs|testing: oh alrighty then02:06
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Flannelhmmm, 2TB.  Is what MS says.02:07
jonukdonvella: i was trying to install Breezy02:07
Flannelhttp://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;31052502:07
Samuli^donvella, yes, but can you write to it? (you shouldn't)02:07
Paul8688yeah and it runs under windows too02:07
CyaniCs|testing#googler you are partially correct02:07
klaitonhello mans!02:07
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googlerpartially ,how02:07
CyaniCs|testingthe formating utilities in Win32 (xp/nt/2k) can't format it larger than 32GB02:07
snowfakedi remember there's difference between then size windows can create and the size it can read02:07
donvellaSamuli^: it wouldnt matter, ill try but he wanted to access his music files through linux and windows, you simply can02:07
CyaniCs|testingbut systems like partitionmagic can02:07
Samuli^richiefrich, he just said why.02:07
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richiefrichSamuli^, i missed it02:08
carlThen to install do "sudo apt-get install firefox" right?02:08
richiefrichcarl, yes02:08
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CyaniCs|testingstay away from fat32 on linux with music files!!!!02:08
Samuli^donvella, what if he wants to correct a typo on the mp3-id or add some new music?02:08
googleryes cyanics u r right02:08
CyaniCs|testingit will truncate long names02:08
klaitoncarl yes...02:08
FlannelCyaniCs|testing: it's not 8TB,its 2.  Just for future arguments ;)02:08
carlThank you.02:08
donvellaSamuli^: <jonuk> I want to access Music files through both Linux and Windows02:08
richiefrichcarl, np02:08
richiefrichdonvella, use smaba02:08
klaiton;)02:09
donvellaSamuli^: He didnt mention anything other then accessing his music02:09
QuizzerNickGarvey : thank you .. works for me now02:09
Samuli^<jonuk> Samuli, I just wanted to make the rest of the space to be shared between Windows and Linux02:09
CyaniCs|testingyou can jurry rig 8tb partitions.02:09
NickGarveyQuizzer: :)02:09
Samuli^donvella, anyways let him be the judge what to do :D02:09
richiefrichdonvella, sorry i think thats for jonuk02:09
CyaniCs|testinghave never messed around (and who in their right might would) with anything larger than 500GB in fat3202:09
NickGarveySamuli^: actually, windows can access ubuntu and change it02:09
donvellaSamuli^:  lol02:09
jonukokay so to access music files on both Windows and Linux...do I need to make the partition FAT32 or can I leave it NTFS02:09
RandolphCarterurg, you must've lost like 50GB of that partition in overhead?02:09
googlerso Cyanics what utilities u use to format 32+ GB to FAT32 ?02:10
NickGarveyjonuk: linux can read windows, but not change it02:10
donvellajonuk: do you want to edit your music, or just lpay it?02:10
donvellaplay*02:10
CyaniCs|testingdo you have a network?02:10
jonukplay it, and view pictures/videos02:10
CyaniCs|testing#jonuk ?02:10
NickGarveyjonuk: so if you want to just play it, then ntfs is fine02:10
jonukokay, cool02:10
donvellayeh you can do all that on a NTFS file system02:10
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Samuli^jonuk, if you don't need to write to the hd, then ntfs is fine.02:10
NickGarveyjonuk: yeah ntfs is fine if you don't want it changed02:10
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jonukwhat do I set the mount to02:10
jonukwhen I format for NTFS02:10
CyaniCs|testingif you have a network, you can configure a external HD using NTFS and support writes with SMB02:10
RandolphCarter/mnt/music should work and meet LSB standards02:10
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CyaniCs|testingyou just need an external enclosure with LAN support02:11
steveSorry for interupting, but how do I set the password for root?02:11
ompaul!root02:11
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.02:11
CyaniCs|testingsudo passwd root02:11
jonukso just mount it to something like /mnt/documents02:11
donvellaunless you reenable it02:11
RandolphCarteryeah jonuk02:11
Samuli^jonuk, yeah.02:11
richiefrichjonuk, no02:11
jonuklol02:12
richiefrichjonuk, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222                    0 002:12
richiefrichin fstab02:12
carlHow do I install a program such as Ares?02:12
carlOr02:12
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jonukrichie: sorry, i don't know what you're talking about02:12
googlerIS THERE A WAY TO MAKE NTFS PART. R/W ?02:12
steveAh, thanks. Kubuntu and Ubuntu are different when setting root passwords.02:12
RandolphCarter /media != LSB?02:12
carlHow do I use the bit torrent?02:12
draskoHi all. I installed enlightenment, but it is not shown in gdm, so I can not choose this session. How to add it?02:12
CyaniCs|testing#googler yes02:12
Flannelsteve, no they're not.02:12
googlerTESTED AND RELIABLE ?02:12
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snowfakedRandolphCarter: yep, at least haven't seen that on ubuntu/fedora/rhel02:12
gnomefreakCyaniCs|testing: please dont advise anyone to enable the root password02:12
CyaniCs|testing#googler but you need to compile a custom kernel with NTFS write support (experimental)02:12
Samuli^jonuk, you add that line to /etc/fstab so that it automatically mounts at boot.02:13
RhineHas anyone done this before? I need help with some of the steps02:13
Rhinehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive02:13
googlerOIC02:13
snowfakedwhat's wrong with using sudo? usually you don' tneed to use many commands as root02:13
jonukFinal question:  Since I am going to have to unplug one of my hard drives to install Ubuntu, will it be difficult to configure GRUB to be a Dual-boot system afterwards02:13
RandolphCartersnowfaked: heh, I mean mounting ntfs/fat32 into /media, afaik they should go in /mnt02:13
snowfakedand you can always use sudo -i to get root shell02:13
ompaulgoogler, turn off caps lock please02:13
snowfakedRandolphCarter: i read that with solaris you would mount something AS /mnt and not under /mnt...like mounting /dev/hda as /mnt02:14
Samuli^jonuk, sort of.. but it can be done pretty easily if you know what you're doing.02:14
googlerok sorry opaul !02:14
snowfakedRandolphCarter: my memory could fail me as i'm somewhat drunk ;)02:14
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jonukwell, i don't know what i'm doing02:14
jonuki wish i could just leave both drives plugged in02:14
jonukand get to the damn partitioner02:14
nickruddrasko, you need to add a .desktop file to /usr/share/xsession that calls whatever e17 uses to start02:14
snowfaked...i don't know what that has to do with this but i had an urge to say it...02:14
ompaulgoogler, no you can't write to ntfs on ubuntu02:14
donvellajonuk: why dont you just do that?02:14
RandolphCartersnowfaked: and I'm being overly pedantic, but just checked the LSB and /media is for removable media02:14
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nickruddrasko, er, /usr/share/xsessions02:14
YogSothothHi02:14
h3h_timohow do you obtain root privaleges temporarily so i can copy things into my pixmaps folder?02:14
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donvellajonuk: all you want to do is install linux on one drive and windows on the other correct?02:15
nickrudh3h_timo, sudo -i02:15
gnomefreakh3h_timo: sudo?02:15
jonukdonvella:  yes02:15
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ompaulRandolphCarter, well that use case was on fat :-)02:15
h3h_timowill i still be able to do things in the desktopp?? with root privelages?02:15
Samuli^h3h_timo, if you want to use nautilus as a root type: gksudo nautilus02:15
richiefrichh3h_timo, sudo -Hs02:15
gnomefreakh3h_timo: sudo -s or gksudo nautilus02:15
jonukdonvella: but when i start the installer, it hangs at Starting Partitioner02:15
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donvellajonuk: why dont you just killdisk both harddrives, install windows on your first HDD then ubuntu on yoru second HDD02:15
h3h_timothanks02:15
ompaulgnomefreak, -i not -s :-)02:15
YogSothothHow can I type characters that are not on my keyboard? Under Windows I could use Alt and a numerical reference to the character. What can I do under Ubuntu/Gnome?02:15
gnomefreakompaul: -i doesnt do gui02:15
ompaulah02:15
richiefrich -Hs does all02:16
jonukdonvella:  i already have windows installed on the first hard drive, I'd like to just leave it as is02:16
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RandolphCarterhmm, I guess the installer breaks LSB too, as does mounting drives you always use to /mnt02:16
donvellaYogSothoth: Applications > Accessories > Character Map02:16
HymnToLifeYogSothoth> Ctrl+Shif+codethe code has to be in hexadecimal02:16
DBOYogSothoth, Ctrl+Shift+numbers02:16
nickrudgnomefreak, that -H switch is nice02:16
klaitonahauhauaa02:16
donvellajonuk: whats on your second drive atm?02:16
gnomefreaknickrud: agreed but wasnt thinking about it02:16
richiefrichnickrud,  -Hs   gives u root term02:16
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klaitonbye! for you02:17
tank1500YogSothoth: you can just go to Application, Accessories, character map 02:17
nickrudrichiefrich, same as -i? Gotta check the environment02:17
jonukdonvella:  second drive is completely unallocated space...i want to use about 40GB for linux, and just leave the rest free for storage02:17
donvellajonuk: why dont you just killdisk your second harddrive, so it has no data on it, then install ubuntu fresh on that?02:17
h3h_timoit still wont let me paste things into it?02:17
CyaniCs|testinghow big is the drive?02:17
richiefrichnickrud, no i dont think u can run GU"I stuff with -Hs02:17
YogSothothYeah! Ctrl+Shift+00e1 gives me the ! Cool, just what I needed. Thanks guys!02:17
jonukdonvella: the 2nd hard drive has nothing on it02:17
jonukalready02:18
donvellajonuk: doesnt matter, still needs to be killdisked02:18
gnomefreaknickrud: you cant run gui with the -i parameter02:18
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YogSothothtank1500, donvella, yes that's the point: I'm bored using the character map02:18
gnomefreakthats what the -s is for ;)02:18
EruditeHermithey, does anyone know if something like marillat codecs exist for ubuntu?02:18
donvellajonuk: if your having installation problems on a blank HDD you either have a corrupt HDD or you have information stored on it02:18
jonukso you think that will keep the Partitioner from hanging02:18
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jonukdonvella, I'm not having trouble installing on the blank HDD02:18
nickrudgnomefreak, precisely, it protects your settings in $HOME.02:18
vdepizzolwhere I can find this wallpaper? http://www.flickr.com/photos/cassidydr/144366945/in/set-72057594051760884/02:18
gnomefreakubotu tell EruditeHermit about codecs02:18
CyaniCs|testing#donvella low level format02:18
jonukI can install on the 2nd hard drive if I unplug the 1st hard drive02:19
gnomefreaknickrud: correct02:19
richiefrichjonuk, whats the dev addy /dev/?02:19
jonukif I have the 1st one plugged in, the installation stall at Starting Partitioner02:19
donvellajonuk: :) did you install the HDDs yourself?02:19
jonukrichie: i'm sorry, i don't know02:19
gnomefreakvdepizzol: did you look on gnome-look.org or art.gnome.com?02:19
richiefrichjonuk, thats why--> fdisk -l02:19
donvellajonuk: you must killdisk, format, then install your preferred OS02:20
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richiefrichjonuk, what is it ?    sda sdb02:20
h3h_timognomefreak, it still wont let me copy things into it02:20
jonukrichie, i need to fdisk my 2nd hard drive, instead of leaving it as unallocated space?02:20
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richiefrichjonuk, but u need to know what it is02:20
donvellajonuk: YES02:20
jonukriche: i'm sorry, i don't know if its sda or sdb02:20
richiefrichjonuk, fdisk -l02:20
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jonukokay, i will try to fdisk -102:20
donvellajonuk: i told you, killdisk, format the drive, install the OS, it will work just fine02:20
richiefrichnot 102:20
jonuki mean -l02:21
gnomefreakh3h_timo: sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/where/you/wantit02:21
NickGarveyjonuk: it is a L02:21
richiefrichl02:21
siriusnovahey guys i can't seem to get any audio input from my mic on my laptop02:21
DBOvdepizzol, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=3541702:21
vdepizzolgnomefreak: i'm goint to seach it02:21
jonukyes, sorry02:21
h3h_timoalright thanks02:21
siriusnovaor from the line-in02:21
siriusnovacan anyone hel02:21
siriusnovahelp?02:21
richiefrichNickGarvey, thanks02:21
jonukthank you guys for all of your help02:21
vdepizzolDBO: thanks :D02:21
richiefrichnp02:21
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jonuki really appreciate it and will let you know if it works02:21
donvellajonuk: one more thihng02:21
richiefrichjonuk, what is it?02:21
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donvellajonuk: did you install the HDDs yourself?02:21
QuizzerNickGarvey : worked but now i get this problem... configure: error: cannot find "./source/tcl.c" or "source/tcl.o"02:21
jonukdonvella: 1st hard drive was factory02:22
jonuk2nd was installed by me02:22
CyaniCs|testingah...02:22
CyaniCs|testingcable jumpers02:22
NickGarveyQuizzer: what are you running that is doing that?02:22
donvellajonuk: did you put the plastic clips into your HDDS to determine the primary from secondary02:22
QuizzerBitchX .. ./configure02:22
CyaniCs|testing#jonuk did you set your pins to master/slave or CS?02:22
jonukdonvella: yes, my 1st hard drive is master, 2nd is set at slave02:22
Quizzeri know i could just use the package for bitchx02:22
richiefrichif it's a SATA he dosnt have to02:22
CyaniCs|testing#jonuk and when you are in BIOS, you can see both hard drives?02:23
donvellayou have set that with the plastic clips or just thru bios?02:23
Quizzerif i cant figure it out by tomorrow morning will justapt-get the package02:23
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jonukdonvella: plastic clips/jumpers whatever you call them02:23
donvellajumpers yeh02:23
NickGarveyQuizzer: oh bitchx wants it..02:23
NickGarveyQuizzer: yeah Iw ould just apt-get it02:23
richiefrichjonuk, do u see ikt in fdisk -l02:23
Quizzeryeah02:23
jonukeveryone: quick run down of what i did...i installed hard drive and formatted it just using disk manager in Windows, but accidentally set it to Dynamic Disk...then started storing files on it02:23
Quizzerok ..02:23
jonukRecently, I went to Disk Manager, deleted the entire Volume and changed it to Basic Disk02:23
jonuknow it just has completely Unallocated Space02:24
richiefrichjonuk, do u see ikt in fdisk -l02:24
CyaniCs|testingand when you do an installation, are you formatting the disk with an ext3 partition?02:24
CyaniCs|testingor just letting it setup the disk itself?02:24
jonukrichie: i'm really sorry, but how do i do that02:24
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richiefrichin a terminal02:25
jonuk*don';t02:25
tank1500Is there any way that I can create a new folder in my system files?02:25
jonukso just go to a DOS Prompt?02:25
richiefrichjonuk, sudo fdisk -l02:25
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richiefrichjonuk, are u in linux?02:25
CyaniCs|testing#jonuk this is in linux, not in windows02:25
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jonukrichie...windows02:25
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jonuki'm in windows02:25
richiefrichjonuk, then u can do htese things02:25
NickGarveyjonuk: oh hahahaha we have been giving you linux instructions02:25
nickrudtank1500, sudo mkdir /path/to/new/dir02:25
jonuki'm just trying to install linux for the first time02:25
CyaniCs|testing#jonuk both disks are hooked up right now, right?02:25
jonukNick: shit, sorry guys02:25
NickGarveyjonuk: heh its fie02:26
ompauljonuk, you will need to get a terminal, Applications, Accessories, Terminal, and in there type the bit between the arrow heads >>sudo fdisk -l<< get that output and go to https://paste.ubuntu-nl.org with it and enter it there and then give the url of that page in this channel02:26
richiefrichjonuk, u need to boot to linux02:26
jonukCyaniCs...yes02:26
HymnToLifelmao ompaul, you typed al that for nothing02:26
donvellajonuk: what is your interest with linux?02:26
tank1500nickrud, thanks02:26
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CyaniCs|testingok. when you reboot, you have your linux install cd in the drive, right?02:26
CyaniCs|testingand it starts the installer?02:26
jonukdonvella: i just want to be able to dual-boot linux/windows so I can try out linux and learn the OS02:26
jonukthen hopefully eventually switch entirely to Linux02:27
CyaniCs|testing#jonuk getting you there.02:27
tank1500hey, is there some place that I can get a list of all those terminal commands?02:27
draskonickrud, I'll try this...02:27
NickGarvey!cli02:27
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org02:27
donvellajonuk: why dont you use something simple for now like knoppix?02:27
nickruddrasko, what??02:27
donvellato get your way around the os02:27
jonukCyniCs: yes, I reboot with linux installer CD02:27
richiefrichjonuk, thats grub no problem02:27
NickGarveytank1500: read what ubotu just spit out02:27
ompauljonuk, so get yourself the live CD that comes with ubuntu and use that02:27
draskonickrud, well,. for xsessions....02:27
CyaniCs|testingok, and it starts the installation process?02:27
tank1500hehe, yeah, thanks02:27
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jonukompaul: well, I've used the LiveCD for a little bit and decided to go ahead and permanently install02:27
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NickGarveyjonuk: okie, can you boot the cd and then come back in here?02:28
jonukCyaniCs: yes it starts the install process02:28
ompauljonuk, so get the install CD and start the install02:28
CyaniCs|testingwhen you get to the part that asks you about partitioning your disk, you are telling it to automatically partiton? or are you setting up your own partitions?02:28
jonukI do start the install, but when it gets the Starting Partition stage, it loads to 100% and then hangs and goes blank02:28
RhineAnyone know the easiest process to write to NTFS i dont care if i nuke the harddrive, becuase if i cant write to it im reformating :/02:28
jonukTHen I hit Ctrl+C and the partitioner loads to 52% and hangs for got02:28
jonukgood02:29
CyaniCs|testing#Rhine recompile your kernel with NTFS write support02:29
jonukSo it never loads the actually partitioner for me to start partitioning my disk02:29
CyaniCs|testingok.02:29
RhineO.o Is there a guide for this or is a newbie screwed?02:29
CyaniCs|testingyou need to do a custom partition02:29
CyaniCs|testingso instead of automatic, choose manual.02:29
CyaniCs|testingit will be disk HDB02:29
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gnomefreakRhine: you write to it you might be reformatting also lol02:29
Rhinewell i have two drives02:30
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Rhineone has windows which im trying to save :/02:30
CyaniCs|testing(probably hdb)02:30
nickprestaI was wondering if I could get some help with an uncommon mouse problem?02:30
jonukit's a very weird problem, i think02:30
jonuki can't find any solutions online02:30
jonukin the forums02:30
RhineI have tried this but it doesnt work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive02:30
chowellsnickpresta: if you just ask the question, someone might know the answer02:30
sorush20is I need to use hotplug in upload a firmware to a printer caue the printer is silly then what will I don in dapper when the hotplug is gone?02:30
donvellajonuk: its not wierd, you just arent following procedure02:30
Quizzerany chance anyone knows of an online source for information about useradd .. want to know how to restrict them to just thier dir. /home/username02:30
sorush20if02:30
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CyaniCs|testingits confusing the first time.02:31
donvellajonuk: killdisk, format your second HDD, it must be ready for installation.02:31
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nickprestawell, at seemingly random times, although more commonly when I switch applications, my mouse will go crazy.02:31
ompauljonuk, did you have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions  or wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge ?02:31
green_earzjonuk: where the cd from, do you down load it or was it posted to you ?02:31
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nickprestait will move across the screen extremely fast and almost always end up in the top right corner02:31
CyaniCs|testing#donvella the installer will format the disk appropriately.02:31
jonukompaul: i've glanced at them, i will read more thorouhgly02:31
NickGarveyQuizzer: oh I think you want.. chroot02:31
donvellaCyaniCs|testing: not if the disk is corrupt02:31
CyaniCs|testing#jonuk do the manual partitioning.02:31
jonukdonvella: so you think the reason the Partitioner is stalling is because my 2nd hard drive isn't formatted02:31
NickGarveyQuizzer: not sure how to force that though02:31
nickrudsorush20, how'd you use hotplug for that <curiosity, mostly>02:31
ompauljonuk, go for it now - and no that would not stop it02:32
jonukCyaniCs: I can't even get to that part02:32
CyaniCs|testingit will, just not if the MBR is corrupt.02:32
CyaniCs|testingtry donvellas advice.02:32
sorush20well there is a firmware file that is uploaded to the printer since the hotplug script does it everytime for me..02:32
donvellajonuk: i have had installation problems with both windows and linux and not been able to fix anything without killdisking, so i find if all else fails, i pop in killdisk, let it do its thing, fdisk and install02:32
CyaniCs|testingboot to your live disk, and run an fdisk on the second hard drive, and delete anything.02:32
ompauljonuk, as CyaniCs|testing suggested there, that is a good idea, give it a shot and come back to us02:33
Quizzerok02:33
RhineWhen i add this to fstab /dev/hda1    /media/hda1    ntfs-fuse    auto,gid=1002,umask=0002    0    0 i get I/O errors on boot i think it is the umask?!02:33
CyaniCs|testingthen boot and run (probably from a floppy) active kill disk (google search "active kill disk"02:33
jonukokay so boot LiveCD, fdisk my 2nd hard drive, try install again, then come back02:33
thoris it possible to put ubuntu in a usb memory and boot using the memory?02:33
sorush20is it possible for me to write a little script like cat firmware>> printer02:33
ompauljonuk, yes02:33
Flannelthor: yeah.  If your BIOS supports booting from USB.02:33
HymnToLifethor> use DSL for that02:33
donvellahttp://www.killdisk.com i suggest the ISO version CD02:33
sorush20and I could have that running every time right?02:34
jonukokay, before i try this...if it works02:34
CyaniCs|testing#Flannel is correct02:34
Flannelthor: but, yeah, ask HymnToLife said, you're probably better off with distros suited for that specifically.02:34
jonukwhat do I mount the NTFS partition to?02:34
CyaniCs|testing#jonuk "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/WINDOWS"02:34
gnomefreak!ntfs02:34
ubotuit has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:34
HymnToLifejonuk> to wherever you want02:34
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jonukokay, thank you CyaniCs02:34
CyaniCs|testingno worries.02:35
CyaniCs|testinghere to help02:35
ompaulRhine, what is ntfs-fuse ? ntfs is a supported mount type02:35
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nickrudsorush20, that's the general idea: you'd put that script into /etc/init.d, and then run sudo update-rc.d defaults NN . NN probably should be <19, since cups is 1902:35
shadeofgreyhey does anybody here run the boic client for distributed computing02:35
shadeofgrey?02:35
ompaulgnomefreak, cheer up02:35
Deterministohh, nice, now konversation is starting to behave like xchat02:35
gnomefreakim just tired ill be in bed soon02:35
outlawcrookok i did all that was said on the page for the nvidia cards02:35
jonukokay time to try...thanks again everyone02:35
Deterministi'm being a masochist again and trying kde on my laptop02:35
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richiefrichgnomefreak, tired us linux ppl dont sleep :)02:36
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outlawcrookthen had to do a reinstall of ubuntu02:36
outlawcrookcould not get back in02:36
CyaniCs|testingim eagerly waiting dapper02:36
gnomefreaklol richiefrich thats why im tired and i have to fast for 12 hrs anyway so sleep is best way to do that02:36
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outlawcrookgave me error API mismatch02:36
richiefrichgnomefreak, i stay up for like 40 hours02:36
HymnToLifeI did 50 once02:37
nickrudyouth :(02:37
richiefrichgnomefreak, is not good but thats what i do02:37
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HymnToLifeplaying Diablo II on LAN :D02:37
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outlawcrookso what went wrong?02:37
richiefrichHymnToLife, ive done a week with 'help'02:37
snowfakeddiablo II works with linux?02:37
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gnomefreaksnowfaked: under cedega maybe?02:37
jon_howdy! does ubuntu come with a feed aggregator?02:37
snowfakedblah cedega :/02:37
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HymnToLifenope, under Windows :D02:37
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gnomefreaksnowfaked: maybe wine but i doubt it02:38
nickrudjon_, straw, liferea are the two that come to mind02:38
snowfakedare there any other native linux games than et,quake,ut,tuxracer?02:38
donvellaHymnToLife: what does your name mean?02:38
donvellaUT?!02:38
NickGarveysnowfaked: cube I think02:38
CyaniCs|empire#jon_ several02:38
donvellayou can run UT on this? onlinE?!02:38
CyaniCs|empiretry akregator02:38
hyphenateddonvella: yes, UT02:38
snowfakedlike playable games, not something like "my lame poker v0.1" ;)02:38
bbrazilsnowfaked: quake2, adventure, nethack02:38
jon_nickrud: these come with the standard install?02:38
DBOsnowfaked, Doom302:38
intelikeyquick Q,  i want to use vlc in console, what if any special notes ?02:38
HymnToLifedonvella> slightly offtopic, it's the name of an album by Timo Tolkki02:38
snowfakedyeah doom and nethack02:38
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donvellahyphenated: i have allocated 2 jobs for you. get my ATI drivers running and get UT running lol02:38
PhoulHow do i get xmms playing wma?02:38
nickrudjon_, no, but they're easily installed from the net02:38
jon_thanks, CyaniCs|empire02:38
snowfakedonly shoot-em-ups :/02:38
DBOsnowfaked, Americas Army used to have a linux client, but they killed that02:39
HymnToLifesnowfaked> Frozen Bubble :D02:39
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ompaul!tell donvella about ati02:39
gnomefreak!wma02:39
uboturestricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats02:39
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gnomefreakPhoul: ^^^^02:39
ompauldonvella, read the stuff the bot sent you :-)02:39
daddiusanyone know the package name for .wma files?02:39
bbrazilsnowfaked: nethack and adventure aren't shoot'em ups, although if you want that there's hunt02:39
jon_nickrud: thanks. just didn't want to go find one if there are any already installed02:39
donvellaPhoul: one problem with that mate02:39
gnomefreakdaddius: ^^^^02:39
snowfakedbbrazil: yep i know nethack02:39
jon_nickrud: got a fave?02:39
hyphenatedsnowfaked: there are plenty of games, but for commercial 3D games, the only ones that work well are from id (doom3, et and so on) or the kids that make Unreal games02:39
ompaul!tell daddius about restricted02:39
outlawcrooksaid the nvidia kernel module is version 1.0.7174 but this module is version 1.0.766702:39
outlawcrookwhat does all that mean?02:39
bbrazilsnowfaked: so why would you want anything else ;)02:39
donvellaPhoul: if the WMA is licenced to windows your screwed, eg ebaumsworld.com02:39
nickrudjon_, I use liferea when I use an aggregator02:40
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snowfakedbbrazil: i don't, i rarely play anything. i was just interested whether i could abuse my work laptop and instlal some games ;)02:40
daddiusdamn02:40
bbrazilsnowfaked: gltron02:40
ompaulchill, its all fun02:40
jon_ok. i'll try it. thanks, nickrud!02:40
snowfakedif i were to play something i could probably get gamecube02:40
Phoulumm02:40
hyphenatedubotu: tell donvella about ati02:40
PhoulIts locally on my computer02:40
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PhoulI guess i should change the format..02:40
nickrudjon_, apt-cache search aggregator lists those, and some more02:40
Phoulim not sure how tho..02:40
NickGarveysnowfaked: mm.. wii...02:40
nickrudforgot blam02:41
gnomefreakwma=windows media audio i thought02:41
outlawcrookanyone have a clue asto what went wrong or what is going on.. :)02:41
HymnToLifegnomefreak> you were right :p02:41
NickGarveygnomefreak: I believe thats what it is02:41
spartasso, I want to set up ntp on an internal network and I've already set up ntp-server for the connection to the internet server.  what do I need to change in ntp.conf to make ntp work within my network?02:41
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Phoulgnomefreak: whats a converter?02:41
jon_ok. thnx, nickrud02:41
nickrudsnowfaked, there are a multitude of games in the games section of synaptic02:41
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gnomefreakPhoul: i dont know my moto is sc*** windows02:42
carlI'm having problems again >>;02:42
DBOthe most entertaining of witch is kbounce!02:42
snowfakednickrud: yep, but they are something like kill bill and 1000 tetris games and so on :)02:42
HymnToLifePhoul> on windows, iTunes does it02:42
NickGarveyCarl: lay em on me02:42
gnomefreak!wma02:42
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats02:42
gnomefreak^^^ read that Phoul02:42
carlI can't play my music02:42
carlI get more errors02:42
gnomefreakcarl: mp3?02:42
carlMhm02:42
nickrudsnowfaked, and a flight simulator, some adventure games in the sierra mode, and, and, and :)02:42
ubuntugamer___Does someone know a really on-line game for ubuntu ?02:42
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gnomefreakgo to the site above carl  the same one i gave Phoul02:42
snowfakednickrud: maybe if i could get kings quest 7 run on linux....02:42
NickGarveycarl: paste errors02:43
NickGarveycarl: if more than 2 lines use pastebin02:43
p47I can't see the compiz file in gconf-editror, do you know why ? I have all installed in mi machine02:43
snowfakeddosbox probably runs warcraft2 well in linux also? i promisedto play it against my friend some day :)02:43
p47Help me !!!!!02:43
gnomefreakp47: did you try #ubuntu-xgl02:43
Flannelp47: this is in dapper?  And, don't be annoying.02:43
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carlThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins02:43
snowfakedi don't even know what games i'm looking for as i play so few games :)02:43
HymnToLifesnowfaked> wine runs warcraft 3 pretty well02:43
HymnToLifebut you have to have strong hardware02:44
ubuntugamer___Does anypne have a suggestion ??????????????02:44
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p47Yes but Any person anwer me ! :(02:44
nickrudsnowfaked, apt-cache says there are some engines for running sierra games, maybe you can import the data02:44
gnomefreakca/opme02:44
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tahorgp47: because you have to launch compiz with gconf option one time first02:44
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nickrudsnowfaked, frozenbubble02:44
gnomefreakp47: either #ubuntu+102:44
ompaul**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then02:44
gnomefreak p47 or #ubuntu-xgl02:44
snowfakednickrud: i looked at some sierra engine, but it was for old sierra games only. like kings quest 3/4 and such02:44
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nickrudsnowfaked, ah. OK02:44
Flannelubuntugamer___: wolfenstein : Enemy Territory is an online game.02:44
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outlawcrooknvidia help please02:45
carl"Totem could not play 'file:///home/carl/Desktop/Music/Dragonforce_Sonic_Firestorm/01 - My Spirit Will Go On.mp3'."02:45
NickGarveycarl: have the plugins?02:45
snowfakedmaybe i'll get some cheap tv-input (are there any) and that gamecube :)02:45
HymnToLife!tel carl about mp302:45
NickGarvey!tell carl about mp302:45
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife02:45
gnomefreakubotu tell carl about restricted02:45
carlDidn't know I needed 'em on a fresh Ubuntu install02:45
carl>>;02:45
HymnToLifedamn02:45
NickGarveyHymnToLife: I win!02:45
p47tahorg : Whit gconf option ? I don't understand you, could you explainme please how ?02:45
NickGarveycarl: read the article, they are proprietary, they can't include them02:45
p47Flannel Yes Is a dapper !02:45
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HymnToLifebut not now02:45
Flannelp47: this is NOT the channel for this.  #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-xgl02:45
outlawcrook!tell outlawcrook about nvidia02:45
gnomefreakp47: i will ask you once more go to #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-xgl02:46
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ompaulspartas, sorry I forgot your question - then I remembered it- all the info you need is in /usr/share/doc/ntp-doc/html but you need to install >>ntp-doc<< first02:46
carlWait, repeat that, but 'dumbed' down, please.02:46
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gnomefreakcarl: look at your pms02:46
NthDegreedoes anyone know how to disable services that aren't in the basic services section02:46
snowfakedhmh. gamecube + mario something = 90 euros02:47
sorush20dose dapper use a udev script?02:47
HymnToLifesnowfaked> Mario Kart DD kicks ass02:47
gnomefreaksorush20: yes #ubuntu+1 please iirc it does02:47
ubuntugamer___Someone from Brazil here ?????????02:47
bbrazil!br02:47
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.02:47
gnomefreakubuntugamer___: #ubuntu-br02:47
spartask thx, ompaul02:47
ompaulNthDegree, there are no services pointing to the outside world in a basic install, but if you install a service it runs, install package "bum" to manage this (boot up manager)02:47
nickrudNthDegree, System-Admin-Services02:47
blindgiggle.02:48
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outlawcrookok i did all that was said on the page for the nvidia cards02:48
NthDegreei'm fairly new to linux so that would be 'apt-get install bum' right?02:48
nickrudNthDegree, of course, you may need to install bum to see that, I don't remember :)02:48
outlawcrookgave me error API mismatch02:48
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blindsudo, NthDegree02:48
snowfakedHymnToLife: yep it was mario cart. too bad it was earlier 70 euros with mario football02:48
outlawcrooksaid the nvidia kernel module is version 1.0.7174 but this module is version 1.0.766702:48
snowfakedalthough 20 ueros doesn't matter :)02:48
blind`sudo apt-get install bum`02:48
outlawcrookcould not get back in02:49
outlawcrookso i reinstalled os02:49
HymnToLifesnowfaked> I used to have Mario Tennis on the N64, great too02:49
ompaulNthDegree, and you need universe repos installed  if this has not been done already do this >>/msg ubotu universe<<02:49
||arifaXI've connected my smartphone successfully via synce- how to acces the filesystem now? google didn't help as expected02:49
snowfakedtoo bad i'm working on 12 hours shifts, i don't have much time to play on consoles02:50
carlI'm having another problem with enabling free formats02:50
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carlSays the 0.8 version is obsolete02:50
HymnToLifecarl > running Dapper ?02:50
ubuntugamer___Brazil02:50
carlWhut?02:50
Flannelubuntugamer___: #ubuntu-br02:50
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outlawcrookcan someone help me on this please02:50
p47tahorg are you still here ?02:50
ompaulubuntugamer___,         >>/join #ubuntu-br<<02:51
tahorgp47: yes but you should join #ubuntu-xgl02:51
gnomefreakwithout hte >><<02:51
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tahorgubuntugamer___: tecla /join #ubuntu-br02:51
gnomefreakthe*02:51
NthDegreebrb just gonna reboot02:51
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CyaniCs|empirehave you run the apt-get update to get the newest versions ?#outlawcrook02:51
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snowfakedwhee, i'm getting a free book from ms press \o/02:51
ompaulgnomefreak, :)02:51
gnomefreakompaul: ;)02:51
ompaul!offtopic02:51
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!02:51
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blindblind: :)02:51
snowfakedmaintaining and setting up windows network infrastructure or something. part of the mcsa exams02:51
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p47ok thank's tahorg02:52
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carlI tried the dapper one, says couldn't find the package02:52
FireGirlhey I have a question about ubuntu..it never really states.. in just about any linux distro.. the redistribution rights.02:52
gnomefreakp47: we tell you to go to other channels because they can help you better(more) with it because this channel is for warty,hoary, and breezy only for now02:52
ompaulcarl, dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+102:53
nickrudoutlawcrook, first thing you need to learn, is if you screw up your X config (you can't get a graphical desktop) is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:53
FireGirlI would like to know.. if I can sell pc's on ebay preloaded with ubuntu or does this break any laws02:53
ompaulwarty is gone please upgrade :)02:53
nickrudoutlawcrook, no reinstall required02:53
tahorgFireGirl: nope02:53
gnomefreakubotu tell FireGirl about gpl02:53
carlerm...okay...02:53
gnomefreakofcourse not ubotu :(02:53
tahorgFireGirl: you're welcome to do so :)02:53
FireGirlreally?02:53
FireGirlthats awesome02:53
ompaulfiregirl  give it to anyone you like02:53
gnomefreakFireGirl: yes you can sell pcs with ubuntu installed02:53
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FireGirli just wanted to make sure it wasnt illegal before i done it02:54
gnomefreakFireGirl: i suggest reading the gpl02:54
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FireGirli did read the gpl.. it doesnt make sense really02:54
lendylhelp02:54
gnomefreaknickrud: you have to give the person a way to get it either with it or download it02:54
NickGarveyFireGirl: doesn't?02:54
tahorggnomefreak: if she ships the instalation cd with the pc there is no problem for sure02:54
NickGarveylendyl: how can we help you?02:54
FireGirli think it means i can do it.. if I give open source.. and acknowledge that I dont take any credit for the software02:54
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gnomefreakFireGirl: than try ubuntu.com02:54
nickrudgnomefreak, any source is ok then. Seems reasonable02:54
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ompaulfiregirl if you want to talk about the GPL its not core to this channel take it to #ubuntu-offtopic and I will be glad to talk about it02:55
FlannelFireGirl: no, not that.  It means you can't CLOSE your source.02:55
gnomefreaknickrud: yes as long as its the source for ubuntu (if sending ubuntu)02:55
tahorgFireGirl: well, burn an iso or ship the pc with the copy. Everything's alright02:55
tahorgs/or/and/02:55
gnomefreakas long as she gives them the cd shes free and clear ;)02:55
SanneFireGirl, pay attention to any non-free or restricted packages. Usually you won't be allowed to pre install those, I believe, like, for example, the binary nvidia/ati drivers.02:56
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jerwarefellaz.02:58
lendylnickgarvy: i had a problem, about downloading.... i download a file in the web then after that a save it in my desktop then when i tried open it theres this popup icon telling "plese enter your password to run/usr/bin/gnome-app-install  '/home lendyl/desktop/chikka'02:59
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tahorgFireGirl: you can even ask the cd for free on the net02:59
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lendylwhat should i do?02:59
jerwarei think i have a hardware issue.  my eth0 is no longer recognized, but a few hours ago i had a working network conection.02:59
HymnToLifelendyl> what kind of file did you download ?03:00
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tahorgjerware: sudo ifconfig eth0 say something ?03:00
tahorgsay03:00
tahorgs03:00
jerwarei remember walking with my laptop in the rain when it stopped being recognized, but it worked a few times after that.03:00
jerwaretahorg: eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found03:01
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ompauljerware, check that it is still seated correctly in the motherboard, it may actually be faulty, and try this command >>sudo dhclient << its a little rough but might work03:01
tahorgompaul: no, it won't work now03:01
ompauljerware, the only time I have had issues with eth0 is when I had to replace one03:01
jerwareompaul: it is integeraged in my laptop03:01
ompaulooch03:01
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tahorgjerware: lspci | grep -i ethernet03:02
siriusnovaanyone here use the open sound system drivers instead of alsa?03:02
jerwarebut it worked this morning, strange03:02
tahorgjerware: anything ?03:02
siriusnovamy mic doesnt work and the alsa guys can't help me :(03:02
jerwareim working off my wireless nic now.03:02
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tahorgjerware: what's the model of your network adaptator03:02
jerwareinteresting; the result of taht comand shows 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705M Gigabit Ethernet (rev 01)03:03
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swissbearhi , I am this problem : I can't play wmv and asf files03:03
jerwareso it's not recognized by ifconfig, but it is by lspci03:03
ompaul!tell swissbear about restricted03:03
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swissbearalready download w32codec03:04
tahorgjerware: try, sudo modprobe tg303:04
tahorgjerware: then ifup eth003:04
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jerwaretahorg:  no results with sudo modprobe tg303:04
tahorgjerware: dmesg | tail03:04
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tahorggives you something about the ether controler ?03:05
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tahorgjerware: try the ifconfig command I already gave you03:05
tahorgjerware: to see if eth0 is up again03:05
jerwaresmsg | tail  says http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Z4U8Kl40.html03:05
swissbearany idea for play wmv?03:06
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jerwareifconfig still says eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found03:06
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DBO!restricted03:06
ubotuI guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats03:06
tahorglooks like the driver is already loaded03:06
jerwareswissbear: i can play wmv03:06
jerwaredown load Mplayer03:06
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tahorgjerware: try a ifconfig -a and look at the ethx inteface03:06
tahorgs03:06
swissbearI did03:06
tahorgjerware: perhaps it's eth2 ou eth303:06
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jerwareyou might need win32 codecs swissbeaer03:07
DBOswissbear, so long as the wmv does not have an encrypted stream you will be able to play it (after you isntall the restricted formats)03:07
justin__hello03:07
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DBOjustin__, hello03:07
swissbearI have w32 codec03:07
DBOswissbear, it sounds like your wmv stream is DRM'd03:07
justin__hey do anyone know how i can update Firefox  bec i cant download anything03:07
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HymnToLifeswissbear> then you need a player that can use them like Mplayer or xine03:07
jerwareeth1 and lo are the only listed in ifconfig03:07
swissbearwhat is drm?03:08
tahorgjerware: try a sudo rmmod tg3 && sudo modprobe tg303:08
HymnToLife!tell justin__ about ff1.503:08
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tahorgjerware: to unload and reload the driver03:08
HymnToLife!drm03:08
ubotuHymnToLife: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:08
jerwarebut ifconfig -a shows a sit003:08
carl__I need help instaling a .bin file03:08
carl__>>;03:08
tahorgjerware: after that try a ifconfig eth0 again03:08
jerwareok03:08
perry753justin__, Please use a real Linux distribution.03:08
swissbearI have mplayer03:08
justin__i did03:08
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lendylihymntolife:ts a for free something that i could connect my pc to mibile03:08
DBOjustin__, you have to temporarly chown ff1.5's directory in opt, then chown it back to root after the update03:09
HymnToLife?03:09
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perry753nick125, Hi03:09
jerwarestill same results with sudo rmmod tg3 && sudo modprobe tg3 ; ifconfig -a  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/vKXlr281.html03:09
jerwarei guess i need a new nic03:10
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jerwareare there any pcmcia nic03:10
Nullified!java03:10
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs03:10
justin__ty03:10
jerwarewith a linux compatable driver?03:10
jerwarewith a linux compatable driver?03:10
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tahorgjerware: well il looks bad.03:10
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jerwareyea03:10
carl__Can somebody help me install a .bin file that was downloaded to my desktop?03:10
tahorgjerware: what did you do ?03:10
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nickrudNullified, getting the java deb from the seveas repo (!javadebs) is the easiest03:10
tahorgjerware: do you have ndiswrapper loaded ?03:10
btwillhi03:10
ompaulcarl__, what is it for?03:10
kbrookshmm. who is nick12503:10
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jerwaretahorg: whats ndiswrapper? or how can i tell03:11
carl__RealPlayer1003:11
jerwarei think so03:11
kbrooksaha! a bot!03:11
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tahorgjerware: well, first, what did you do ?03:11
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btwillhi nick12503:11
perry753nick125 is a gentoo user03:11
tahorgjerware: lsmod | grep ndiswrapper03:11
perry753he will bite you03:11
nick125kbrooks: I'm just here to watch perry753 get kickbanned..03:11
tahorgjerware: to see if ndiswrapper is loaded03:11
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tahorgjerware: which is baad.03:11
kbrooksperry753: be quiet03:11
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tahorgjerware: it's a centrino 2 right ?03:11
ompaul!tell carl__ about restricted03:11
carl__>>;03:11
ompaulcarl__, that will tell you how to install that package03:11
ompaulcarl__, the link that the bot just sent you03:12
jerwaretahorg: i was walking in the rain while playing mp3's on my laptop03:12
jerwarea drop could have hit the rj-45 connector, but it worked a few days later, now it's down again03:12
jerwaredoh nothing from  lsmod | grep ndiswrapper03:12
jerwarei should look up how to install it03:12
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jerwarea centrino, yes03:12
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perry753kbrooks, why?03:13
perry753you hatin???03:13
tahorgjerware: it's strange because lspci sees your card03:13
kbrooksSeveas: i have a reason to believe that perry753 is trolling on nick12503:13
ompauljerware, why not use the pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org for more than two lines of keep all the text on as few a lines as possible :-)03:13
tahorgjerware: so it's on the bus answering03:13
perry753O.o03:13
tahorgjerware: but the driver ignores it03:13
nickrudheh. As long as their useful ...03:13
h3h_timowhy do i need a password to access a samba share that doesnt require a password03:13
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nickruds/their/they are/03:14
kbrooksSeveas: Please act on this ASAP03:14
mouahi03:14
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tahorgjerware: the problem seems to be hardware03:14
h3h_timonevermind03:14
tahorgjerware: you already tried a reboot ? to see if a bios reset could fix it03:15
kbrooksnick125: he left03:15
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nick125kbrooks: yeah, he said he was coming here to tell everyone that asked for help to use a real distro..I just wanted to see him get k/bed03:16
high-freq!ati03:17
ubotu[ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358903:17
kbrooksnick125: K03:17
tahorgnick125: he's done it only once03:17
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lukehello03:17
tahorg(that I saw)03:17
lukecan anybody help me with a Wine problem?03:17
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tahorgstop drinking03:17
tahorg</sorry>03:17
rbrtmuhahah.03:17
nickrudrflol03:17
rbrt:)03:17
CyaniCs|empirelol03:17
Phoenix92xhi, Im running dapper drake with kernel version 2.6.15-22-386 on a Dell Latitude D610 with a Radeon X300 graphics card. I'm having a problem getting translucency to work correctly. Im using the latest fglrx driver, but when I enable translucency the display is...well...corrupted is the best word for it. Can anyone help me?03:17
ompaul**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then03:17
NickGarveyluke: heh, what do you need03:17
CyaniCs|empire#Phoenix92x move to the dapper channel03:17
ompaulCyaniCs|empire,  if I may ask why do you preface all lines with a #?03:18
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HymnToLifeompaul> they're commented out, meaning that we shouldn't care about them03:18
=== ompaul rofl
ompaulHymnToLife, stop it03:19
bimberilol HymnToLife03:19
NickGarveyheh I think it might be his client03:19
Phoenix92xis it #dapper ? because that has no one in it03:19
NickGarveyPhoenix92x: #ubuntu+103:19
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CyaniCs|E#ubuntu+103:19
HymnToLifeit's #ubuntu+103:19
naliothPhoenix92x: #ubuntu+103:19
Phoenix92xthanks03:19
NickGarveyI win03:19
rbrtHmm. I think it is #ubuntu+1 ;-)03:19
CyaniCs|Elol03:20
CyaniCs|EDIBS03:20
rbrt*g*03:20
daryl_What is the command to reconfigure my xorg.conf file?03:20
bimberi!xorg03:20
ubotuxorg is, like, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html03:20
tahorgvim ?03:20
nalioth!xcfg03:20
ubotu[xcfg]  to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:20
NickGarveydaryl_: dpkg-recon- nevermind heh03:20
rbrtnano!03:20
tahorgoops I did it again03:20
naliothbimberi: mine is shorter03:20
rbrt;)03:20
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nickrudbimberi's is better nalioth :P03:21
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tahorgnalioth: generaly people don't say those thing.03:21
tahorgs03:21
tahorgjerware: so03:21
nickrudo.O03:21
tahorgjerware: anything new with your broadcom gigabit ?03:21
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ompaultahorg, I think they know each other, just a little bit03:22
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tahorgbimberi: I don't know what you mean.03:24
tahorgbimberi: ;)03:24
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jramsey!bison03:24
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jramsey03:24
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ompaul!info bison03:24
ubotubison: (A parser generator that is compatible with YACC), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:2.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 285 kB, Installed size: 1104 kB03:24
jramseyompaul, txs03:25
ompauljramsey, np03:25
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icyvaporanyone has seen this kind of error message before?03:26
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icyvapor** (network-admin:7801): CRITICAL **: gst_xml_element_destroy: assertion `node != NULL' failed03:26
HymnToLifeit doesn't look good03:26
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jramseyicyvapor, what component gen'ed the error?03:27
icyvaporwell.. it's not a major thing.. just seems my network config doesn't save...03:27
icyvapornetwork-admin03:27
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hou5tonIs it very risky to go ahead and upgrade to Dapper now?03:29
HymnToLifetwo weeks before release, I think it's pretty solid03:30
chowellsworks for me03:30
icyvaporI'm using a wireless router.. the SSID is plain text instead of Hex.. by default Ubentu use Hex, so each time I boot up it, I have to manually set the 'network-admin'03:30
tahorghou5ton: perhaps some minor problems03:30
tahorgicyvapor: ssid ?03:31
tahorgicyvapor: you mean wep key03:31
tahorgno ?03:31
icyvaporbecause my config doesn's seem to save ..03:31
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icyvaporsorry it's ESSID03:32
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tahorgESSID is a string03:32
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tahorghex or whatever03:33
tahorgit should work03:33
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hou5tonso ... as I understand it ... in /etc/apt/sources.lst, everywhere it says "breezy" ... like in "breezy-backports" ... I change it to "dapper-backports"  ... correct?03:34
Abnixumm, silly question I think, but what do I have to install here to get 'make' ? (please be specific)03:34
jramseyAbnix, sudo apt-get install build-essential03:34
Abnixty03:35
jramseyAbnix, yw03:35
Flannelhou5ton: there are no dapper backports, yet.  so, comment those lines out.  But yeah, all the breezys become dappers.03:35
icyvaporwell.. then I'm confused more. Each time it won't work by default.. I have to open up the network-admin and open the interface properties for current connection... in it, changing "key type" from Hex to Plain(Ascii) does the trick.. but I've no idea why03:35
icyvaporalthough I'm not using a WEP03:35
cjfpmy glxgears doesn't report fps, any ideas?  glxinfo works and DRI is yes.  using breezy.03:36
jramsey!info LZO03:36
tahorgicyvapor: mmh, something might be wrong in you configuration03:36
jramsey!info LZ003:36
hou5tonFlannel:  ok ... that leaves security, multiverse and universe ... sound right?03:36
Flanneland main, hou5ton03:37
icyvaporyea.. probably..03:37
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tahorgicyvapor: try to edit /etc/network/interfaces03:37
Flannel!tell cjfp about glxgears03:37
tahorgicyvapor: and remove every 'wireless-key' line03:37
jramsey!info ruby03:37
uboturuby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB03:37
tahorgicyvapor: you are using an open access point ?03:37
cjfpFlannel: it would help if there were also a man page!?!03:38
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basiliohi all03:38
icyvaportahorg: yea.. I will have a look at it and see what I can change, thx03:38
basilioim a newbie in all these linux03:39
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basilioif there any way that i can copy a .doc from my winxp partition to my linux partition?03:39
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Syco54645i was wondering how i can disable the ctrl alt + thing in xorg,03:39
Abnixok, where would I put a command that I want to execute before X attempts to start?03:39
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pyroticGentoo Guru's ?03:40
Abnixare you *trying* to start a fight?03:40
pyroticme?03:40
richiefrichpyrotic, ?03:40
jramseyanyone know what the LZO library is?  i need it to build grub03:40
pyroticrichiefrich hey03:40
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richiefrichpyrotic,  what u want with gentoo03:41
pyroticrichiefrich was going to install it on my other drive, but I don't even know where to begin...03:41
chowellsjramsey: apt-cache search lzo03:41
richiefrichpyrotic, i can help03:41
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richiefrichpyrotic, come to my channel03:41
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pyroticrichiefrich k.03:41
cjfpok, now zsnes hangs my desktop when i try to enter full screen.03:41
pyroticrichiefrich invite me.03:41
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high-freqok...can someone plz tell me why lspci isn't listing *any* of my pcmcia cards?03:42
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jramseychowells, txs03:42
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high-freqi just did a fresh install..got xorg up...so now what?03:42
cjfpcorrection, it dies and i have to kill it from the console, and then my desktop resolution is stuck at 1024x768 and i still have to kill X.03:42
jramseychowells, the pkg name is lzop ... that's why i couldnt find it03:42
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agraupeis there a way to test if my wifi card is working without having an AP nearby?  I want to make sure my card is working before I spend money on a wireless router03:42
high-freqdo lspci see if it detects it03:43
chowellsjramsey: are you sure it's not liblzo1 and liblzo-dev03:43
gdbMy X is stuck at 640x480 and it's the only resolution offered on the control panel for it.  How can I get in there and enable it to run 1024x768?03:43
chowellshigh-freq: because they aren't PCI devices03:43
jramseychowells, must be somethign else because ./configure still whines about it ... lemme try that03:43
high-freqgdb: u can edit the xorg.conf yourself or redo    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:43
gdbThanks, high-freq.03:43
high-freqchowells: ok...whts ocmmand to check it then?03:43
chowellshigh-freq: 'cardctl status'03:44
high-freqk03:44
jramseychowells, yep liblzo-dev ... ty03:44
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high-freqchowells: ok says 5v 16 bit PC card... function 0: [ready] 03:45
bur[n] ercan anyone recommend a gui .wav to .mp3 encoder?03:45
chowellscardctl config too, maybe. depends what you're looking for03:45
high-freqchowells: on website for the specs it says it uses the prism 2.5 driver03:45
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chowellsbur[n] er: KAudioCreator can do that I think03:46
propheteerbur[n] er, i'd suggest grip or soundjuicer, and use FLAC or vorbis.03:46
bur[n] erhow about a gtk one? ;)03:46
chowellsno idea03:46
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propheteerbur[n] er, those two are gtk so you don't have to deal with ugliness.03:46
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bur[n] erflac and/or vorbis don't work on my car mp3 cd player or i'd be all about ogg :)03:46
maikmoin+03:46
bur[n] ersound juicer won't do it03:46
bur[n] erI'll try grip though03:46
propheteerwhat do you mean it won't do it?03:47
BrunnoPEi want to download the latest version of dapper but i don't know if it's the "beta 2" or the "flight 7", anyone can help me ?03:47
bur[n] ersound juicer only goes from cd03:47
high-freqchowells: said socket 0:  Vcc 5.0v  Vpp1 5.0v  Vpp2 5.0v03:47
bur[n] eras far as I can tell03:47
chowellshigh-freq: so what's the problem?03:47
high-freqchowells: for the cardctl config03:47
gdbhigh-freq: Thanks for the tip.  That dpkg-reconfigure command is what I was looking for.03:47
maiksome german people around?03:47
propheteerbur[n] er, what application is this for?  just for listening to music off your computer?03:47
propheteermaik, nein.03:47
high-freqchowells: how do i enable it?03:47
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maiklol propheter03:47
propheteerbur[n] er, unless you have some specific need for mp3 format, i would avoid it at all costs.03:47
bur[n] erpropheteer: i'm going to convert a bunch of .wav's I have to .mp3 so I can burn them to an mp3 cd for use in my car03:47
=== bur[n] er has specific need
propheteeroh.. :(03:47
propheteersucks that more car cd players don't support vorbis.03:48
bur[n] eri've never seen an ogg cd player :\03:48
bur[n] eri know03:48
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propheteergrip is great.03:48
high-freqchowells: been workin on this for a few days now ;(  can't seem to get it working... its even a prism2.5 card so i dunno03:48
propheteeryou can have it use lame.03:48
bur[n] eri've used grip in the past03:48
chowellshigh-freq: have you tried modprobe'ing the right driver?03:48
bur[n] erhow do I get it to convert the .wav's I have?03:48
maiki`ve got a problem !i`am an bloody ubuntu starter03:48
high-freqchowells: which ones tho... prism_cs  says it uses the prism 2.x03:49
maikand i want to know how to install something!!??03:49
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atomic0xHey ladies and gent's.  Has anyone installed flight7 onto a usb drive?  I'm having trouble booting it from mine :(03:49
chowellshigh-freq: not sure, sorry03:49
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jramseymaik, what?03:49
high-freqchowells: ok ;(03:49
hyphenatedatomic0x: #ubuntu+103:49
Abnixok, where would I put a command that I want to execute before X attempts to start?03:49
mouahi, i can't log into root nor type sudo, however i can be root if i log into a classic user and type su03:50
bur[n] erpropheteer: grip has the same issue as sound juicer, I can't seem to get it to load my .wav's to encode them03:50
CyaniCs|Ein "/etc/init.d"03:50
mcrIt seems that I've purchased what I thought was a hard PCI modem, but may in fact be an LTmodem. I'm willing to try ltmodem, etc. if I can get it easily on ubuntu. This is for a friends' computer (rescuing him from XP).03:50
mouai have "bad password"03:50
=== bur[n] er might just use lame and an xterm
propheteerbur[n] er, oh!  yeah...they are geared toward cd ripping.03:50
propheteerbur[n] er, then why don't you just run something from the command line?03:50
propheteerjust use lame.03:50
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jramseyxbox_guru, u get ur wireless set up?03:51
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propheteerlame <settings> *.wav03:51
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xbox_gurujramsey, no I didn't03:51
jramseyxbox_guru, ahhh sry 2 hear that03:51
xbox_guruI'm putting ndiswrapper back onto the compuer03:51
xbox_guru*computer03:51
bur[n] erpropheteer: will that work like this... 01.wav -> 01.mp3 and 02.wav -> 02.mp3?03:51
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xbox_guruupdating it03:52
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xbox_gurujramsey: what do I need to run before I extract the file03:52
CyaniCs|E#bur[n] er renaming the file? or converting to mp3?03:52
jramseyxbox_guru, what file? u mean the ndiswrapper module?03:52
xbox_guruyes, from the sourceforge website03:53
xbox_gurujramsey, I want to have the most upto date version03:53
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propheteerbur[n] er, yeah03:54
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propheteerafter upgrading to dapper drake (what kind of animals is a drake?!) i can't use my sound or networking.03:54
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bur[n] erpropheteer: try using an older kernel?03:55
shoofledrake is a dragon or a duck03:55
shoofleof some kind03:55
bur[n] erpropheteer: did you do a "hard" shutdown and leave it off for a sec?03:55
swissbearhave I to restart after have installed nw codecs?03:55
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jramseyxbox_guru, try this http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu03:55
bur[n] erswissbear: only the application03:55
swissbearit seams totem doesn't see the w32codecs03:56
propheteerhmm...the older kernel is a thought!03:56
shoofleeveryone should read www.xkcd.com it's my brother's comic!03:56
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malegriahi. i'm new to linux, trying ubuntu. one of those windows-questions (sorry): in windows' explorer there is a file tree on the left side that shows the folders while on the right side you can see subfolders and files. is there a way to have something similar in ubuntu (breezy badger, gnome)?03:58
xbox_gurubrb03:59
jramseymalegria, did u check side pane03:59
DBOmalegria, open your file browser in gnome, in the left panel you will see a pull down menu that probably says places, pull it down and select tree03:59
robertj_that side bar has a few different modes, change Places to "Tree"03:59
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malegriaPlaces?03:59
jramseybrowser/view/side pane03:59
malegriaah, ok03:59
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jramseythen do what robertj_ said03:59
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malegriait's that easy...04:00
malegriathanks04:00
jramseyyw04:00
DBOits that easy =)04:00
KaosXany linux sysAdmins in here?04:00
DBOlinux is the OS made for the people, by the people.  not for the money by the corporations =)04:00
DBOKaosX, I been called that before, whats your issue?04:00
jramseyand linux has no "gates", metaphorically speaking ;)04:01
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gammaactually most of the linux advancements are corporate driven :P04:01
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DBOgamma, shhhhhhhh04:01
gammalol04:01
malegrianext one: (how) can i change the standart folder for my files (the one that is opened when saving files and stuff)04:01
KaosXI have my final round interview with a large company on friday, Ive passed the windows and OS X ones with flying colors but Ive only really had my schooling on linux and not much else04:01
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KaosXI wanted to know what you think are the most important things a linux admin should know04:02
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gammaKaosX: never type rm -fr /04:02
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gamma:D04:02
jramseylol04:02
userbnlue04:02
malegriagamma: and what's that?04:02
KaosXlol04:02
jramseymalegria, forget that cmd04:02
gammaremoves all the files on the filesystem.... never learn that04:03
KaosXi would NEVER do that04:03
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DBOKaosX, self-confidence.  You wont ever know everything, but you know if you have to, you can figure it out.  Also knowing a good bit of LDAP + Samba is not a bad start04:03
malegriagood to know...04:03
gammayea I'd familiarize yourself with the syntax of the samba configs04:03
KaosXThe want more of a linux tech, but I like to go a step up.04:04
KaosXIve set up samba before, ill list that on my to do list to brush up on though04:04
KaosXanything else?04:04
DBOLDAP, ProFTPD, Samba, Kernel Compilation, EVMS, RAID...04:05
xbox_gurujramsey: I got It!!!!!!!!04:05
KaosXive used VSFTPD04:05
DBOif you must =P04:05
Abnixok, where would I put a command/entry that I want to execute before X attempts to start?04:05
KaosXlol04:05
xbox_guruDBO/jramsey: I got the drivers for my Network adapter to work!!!!04:05
DBOAlso knowing SLES 9 is good because it has NDS KaosX04:06
jramseyxbox_guru, you da man!!!04:06
KaosXohhh NDS   yeehaw04:06
malegriacan anybody tell me how can i change the standart folder for my files (the one that is opened when saving files and stuff)?04:06
KaosXyou want to go out of your home dir?04:07
DBOKaosX, NDS is fantastically better than AD and anyone who says otherwise is a microsoft lover =)04:07
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xbox_gurujramsey: thanks, I got ndiswrapper to work, I finally figured out that you had to be in that directory to unpackage things04:07
jramseyxbox_guru, sure ... np and enjoy ur untethered network!!!!04:07
nickrudmalegria, the best thing is to navigate to a dir you want to save files to and add it to your bookmarks04:07
KaosXndiswrapper is pretyy damn slick04:08
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malegriaKaosX: i'm using a fat32 partitition for a whole bunch of files (still switching...)04:08
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KaosXI think I might actually have SLES 9 laying around here somewhere04:08
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KaosXwell you could do one of a few things04:08
xbox_gurujramsey: thanks04:08
KaosXyou can change your home directory04:08
jramseyxbox_guru, yw04:08
josenas04:09
xbox_guruI'll talk to you guys in a little bit04:09
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KaosXor (cmiiw guys) symlink your homedir to that fat32 drive04:09
jramseyxbox_guru, c ya04:09
jonnys04:09
malegriai think the bookmark-way should work04:09
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NeoGeo64help, i installed the nvidia drivers, i set my xorg config to nvidia and now i cant boot x04:10
cjfpok, how do i get a package from dapper drake, using breezy?04:10
DBOKaosX, if you want to continue your previous discussion, the best place will be #ubuntu-offtopic04:10
KaosXgotcha04:10
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cjfpi would like a newer version of zsnes than 1.40.04:10
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malegriaKaosX: tried that but didnt make it04:11
NeoGeo64anyone know why i cant boot x?04:11
KaosXyoull probably have to alter your profile then04:11
PORDOhas anyone gotten an MVOX mv100 to work with linux?04:11
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malegriain OOo for example, i always have to search the other folder.04:12
outlawcrookok what was the fix comand again04:12
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outlawcrookif i mess up x server i think it is04:12
nickrudoutlawcrook, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:12
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PORDOSetting up libsexy2 (0.1.7-0ubuntu5) ... <--- ??04:12
nickrudoutlawcrook, choose the nv driver04:12
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DBOPORDO, got that one too, was curious like you04:12
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outlawcrookwhat is this error i am getting04:13
outlawcrookCouldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:13
DBOPORDO, libsexy2 is a collection of gtk+ widgets04:13
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nickrudmalegria, ah, open office. A sec04:14
NeoGeo64help, i installed the nvidia drivers, i set my xorg config to nvidia and now i cant boot x04:14
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malegrianickrud, there's a link to the "standart folder"04:15
mnob07hey04:15
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malegrianickrud, but thats not where i have my files04:15
nickrudmalegria, you want to go to the openoffice menu item tools->options. Under openoffice there's a Path setting, change MyDocuments04:15
nickrudmalegria, open office will default to the path you set there04:15
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nickrudoutlawcrook, did you do an apt-get update first (that normally fixes that)04:17
mnob07you can ignore me if you want if this is a stupid question, but I need help remembering what my login for ubuntu is. I JUST installed it, all I rememebr is putting Mike as the user name and my normal password but when booting it up they won't log me on?04:17
malegrianickrud, perfect! thanks.04:17
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NeoGeo64i assume no one can help me lol04:17
NeoGeo64oh well time to delete linux and go back to windows xp04:17
outlawcrookwhat nvidia driver sdo i get for the 6600GT?04:17
nickrudmnob07, are you making sure you use Mike, not mike04:17
Mitsurugino don't04:17
Mitsurugiwhats your probelem neogeo64?04:17
outlawcrookfrom the synaptic package manager04:17
NeoGeo64i installed the nvidia drivers, i set my xorg config to nvidia and now i cant boot x04:17
tonyyarussomnob07: Well, that's a bit of a pickle.  I take it you're on another computer next to it?04:18
NeoGeo64i did everything right04:18
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Mitsurugii have that probelm too neogeo04:18
Mitsurugiwhat nvidia card are you using?04:18
mnob07omg "mike" worked thank you so much04:18
tonyyarussomnob07: Have you tried both Mike and mike as usernames?04:18
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tonyyarussomnob07: Hah, nice.04:18
mnob07but I would swear that I capitalized the M during setup04:18
NeoGeo64ti 420004:18
tonyyarussomnob07: I'm not sure it lets you use capitals.04:19
mnob07ahhh04:19
malegriaanybody knows a good wine-tutorial for beginners?04:19
nickrudit does, caps matter04:19
DBONeoGeo64, have you looked at your xorg.0.log for clues?04:19
outlawcrookhow do you do a apt-get update04:19
tonyyarussonickrud: So are you thinking he just forgot the cap?04:19
DBOoutlawcrook, "sudo apt-get update"04:19
nickrudtonyyarusso, I saw Mike --> caps, issue :)04:20
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MitsurugiDBO; how do you look at that log?04:20
NeoGeo64DBO, no04:20
NeoGeo64i dont know how to do much command line stuff04:20
NeoGeo64heh04:20
NeoGeo64well i do but i dont like vim04:20
mutrooohi guys04:20
DBOMitsurugi and NeoGeo64, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less04:21
mutrooothis is my first time using ubuntu04:21
DBOmutrooo, welcome to a brave new world, but with more toast04:21
nickrudNeoGeo64, then use nano, it's easier04:21
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p47why ubuntu show me this "compiz.real: No composite extension" ?04:21
mutrooothanks DBO04:21
DBOp47, you have to add the compiz extension into your xorg.conf04:22
DBO!compiz04:22
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DBO04:22
nickrudp47, no clue, but the people on #ubuntu-glx may help04:22
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DBOnuts... not factoid yet04:22
mutrooowhere can i learn more about ubuntu04:22
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DBO!wiki04:22
nickrudmutrooo, wiki.ubuntu.com & help.ubuntu.com04:22
MitsurugiDBO: nothing shows up it just says (end) at the bottom04:22
DBOmutrooo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/04:22
DBOmutrooo, also feel free to ask any questions you have right here04:23
p47DBO how ? I don't undesrtand the people in xgl not answer ! and I trired to read and read adn read in the wiki's04:23
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DBOMitsurugi, that stinks04:23
_JECKEL_hello all04:23
_JECKEL_anybody got any suggestions for mouse icons?04:23
mnob07wow I could not have start out at ubuntu any n00bier trying to login for 10 minutes using "Mike" when the user name was "mike" XD now I have to get my Linksys WUSB54G USB wireless adapter working... but I don't have much time today so maybe tomorrow04:23
nickrudp47, then try #ubuntu+1. You won't get help with xgl here, no offence meant04:23
MitsurugiDBO: what does it mean though?04:23
xbox_gurureally quick, when I do my wep key, what settings should I use04:24
xbox_guruits 128kbit encription04:24
MagicFa1I wouldn't use WEP04:24
nickrud_JECKEL_, mouse icons?04:24
DBOp47, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267 its mentioned in the first post04:24
p47nickrud : the people in ubuntu+1 said me that I have to go to xgl and in cgl nothing answer me04:25
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_JECKEL_yeah04:25
Samuli^mnob07, that's a curse word after an another :)04:25
DBOMitsurugi, it means its bailing really early on04:25
_JECKEL_wanna change the look of the pointer and such04:25
KaosXWell Im off to try to shrink my hfs partition and install ubuntu onto my ibook04:25
Samuli^usb, wireless, eek.04:25
p47I will read DBO TAHNK'S04:25
nickrudp47, well, xgl is pretty much a toy right now. Not suprising04:25
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xbox_guruwhen I put in the wep key, what should I do, Plain or hexidecimal04:25
mnob07uh oh...04:25
DBOnickrud, you mispelled lifestyle04:25
outlawcrookso do i use the k7 for instalation or what04:25
outlawcrookseeing as i am 64bit04:25
mnob07well alledgedly the linsys should work... somehow04:25
MitsurugiDBO: dang I must have my PCI number wrong then.... I thought I had it right04:25
outlawcrookrunning the 64bit version of this os04:25
mutrooothanks DBO04:26
Kr0ntabsup folks04:26
DBOMitsurugi, you can just take that part out, its not needed =)04:26
Samuli^outlawcrook, you might be better off with the regular i38604:26
nickrudoutlawcrook, if I may, it's a waste of time running the 64bit version if you want most video and internet flash and the like to work04:26
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PORDOcan someone help me with this, and maybe tell me what might be causing my logins to fail? http://rafb.net/paste/results/aenmuV79.html04:27
_JECKEL_hmmm04:27
_JECKEL_ok...can anybody tell me of a good IRC program that I could make transparent and all that nifty eye candy stuff?04:28
PORDObitchx in your terminal.04:28
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Madpilot_JECKEL_, XChat can do partial transparency04:28
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nickrudDBO, I never misspell lifestyle, I own that04:28
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B0FH!sources04:28
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:29
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_JECKEL_I should probably go get bitchx >_>04:29
ubuntu_what up everybody04:29
ubuntu_just playin with my ubuntu live04:29
PORDOALSA lib pcm.c:1972:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Invalid type for PCM iec958 definition (id: iec958, value: cards.pcm.iec958)04:29
ubuntu_yep04:29
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nickrudubuntu_, welcome to the niche :)04:29
wizzlefishFor some reason, Ubuntu runned extremely slow when I opened the GIMP. I had XMMS running, Firefox, a few File Managers, and gedit. Is there a way to speed it up?04:29
PORDOwizzlefish is this with the live cd or an install?04:30
wizzlefishinstall04:30
ubuntu_i  like ubuntu but XP is all ive ever used i dunno if i could change04:30
PORDOwizzlefish how fast is your proc?04:30
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wizzlefishubuntu_: you can change - I'll teach you anything (that I know) - from noob to noob :)04:30
PORDOubuntu_ please give ubuntu a try.  you might want to change the default appearance a tad, but it's so worth it.04:30
Samuli^ubuntu, you could have both.04:30
PORDOyou will hate windows when you've used it for a month.04:31
wizzlefishPORDO: I have a 1.2Ghz Intel M processor, I believe04:31
_JECKEL_Yeah..Ubuntu's gnome theme at first looks like ass vomit04:31
wizzlefishamen to that04:31
PORDOwizzlefish that's weird then.  that makes no sense to me, but i'm no expert.04:31
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PORDOmy system is very fast.04:31
Samuli^It's not THAT bad.04:31
nickrudubuntu_, it's about finding out what you need, and seeing if ubuntu will provide that usefulness04:31
_JECKEL_it's crap brown04:31
_JECKEL_it's bad04:31
wizzlefishI like Tango icons04:31
PORDO_JECKEL_ it's terrible isn't it.04:31
mindampim having problems compiling cups-pdf from source... it cant find alot of standard C stuff like time.h04:31
mindampam i missing a package?04:32
Madpilot_JECKEL_, language, thanks...04:32
DrBanzaiCan anybody here help me with my ATI drivers, please?  When I do fglrxinfo I keep getting the MESA stuff...04:32
PORDOit's so bad it makes me think, "how could you possibly make this any worse?'04:32
mindampi installed gcc obviously...04:32
nickrudmindamp, cups-pdf is in the repos04:32
ubuntu_my computer teacher gave it me this disc,i got the install too..i just dunno..isnt it not compatible with many games?04:32
wizzlefishI've got a Tango FF theme, a Tango TB theme, and Tango icons and style for my Ubuntu04:32
mindampand...04:32
wizzlefishmaybe that's what's slowing it down!04:32
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nickrudmindamp, sudo apt-get install cups-pdf04:32
Samuli^drBanzai, have you installed xorg-driver-fglrx?04:32
xbox_guruwhen I set up my network settings, I have wep and I"m trying to use the ubuntu network configuration, not in the terminal, and I want to know what settings I should use for the WEP. I have a 128bit encryption and was wondering, should I use hexidecimal or the other setting. Also should I use the DHCP, or static ip. Also should I set up the dns servers myself.04:32
DrBanzaiSamuli^, Yes04:32
_JECKEL_listen... ubuntu_ ...do yourself a favor and get the art manager and go look through various themes and stuff04:32
PORDOcan someone help me?  my login crashes in under ten seconds, and i can't "see" my sound devices.04:32
mindampi have to modify the source for a system specific variable..04:32
ubuntu_where do i get that?04:32
nickrudubuntu_, yes you are absolutley correct about games04:32
mindampso i need to compile it from cups-pdf.c04:32
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mindamphowever gcc errors out trying to find several .h's.. i.e. time.h04:33
ubuntu_but i love GIMP i have have the hack for XP04:33
wizzlefish_JECKEL_: is that the "GNOME Art" thing?04:33
_JECKEL_yeah04:33
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mindampis there a c library or something i must "apt-get"?04:33
nickrudmindamp, then try sudo apt-get build-dep cups-pdf04:33
daddiust04:33
Flannelmindamp: you already have build-essential?04:33
shellsageIf I install Flight 7 on a computer, will I be able to upgrade the system to the final release of dapper after it is released, as if I had just done a fresh install of the dapper final release?04:33
Samuli^drbanzai, then take backup of xorg.conf = sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup04:33
wizzlefishubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org <--- some games there04:33
mutrooociao04:33
Madpilotshellsage, yes04:33
apokryphosmindamp: what are you trying to do?04:33
Flannelshellsage: yes.  but, #ubuntu+1 is the place to ask further.04:33
||arifaXhi I want to use sudo in a bash script but does not seem to work any clues?04:33
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shellsageok thanks04:34
_JECKEL_the ONLY thing I don't like about linux in general is the lack of an abillity to use games on it easily04:34
DrBanzaiSamuli^, I already have a few of those too...04:34
Samuli^drbanzai, after that: sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:34
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wizzlefishdoes Ubuntu come with Ruby installed?04:34
mindampi having a feeling build-essential will fix it04:34
mindampthank you04:34
nickrud||arifaX, depends on the circumstances; I usually write the script so I can call it with sudo, not call sudo inside the script04:34
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Madpilotwizzlefish, I don't think so04:35
ubuntu_can i get a link to art manager or whatever?04:35
wizzlefishubuntu_: http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=88904:35
xbox_guruwhen I set up my network settings, I have wep and I"m trying to use the ubuntu network configuration, not in the terminal, and I want to know what settings I should use for the WEP. I have a 128bit encryption and was wondering, should I use hexidecimal or the other setting. Also should I use the DHCP, or static ip. Also should I set up the dns servers myself.04:35
Samuli^drbanzai, that command will change every "ati" in the file with "fglrx"04:35
||arifaXnickrud, it is for syncing pocketpc I need some programs with and some without sudo so I should be able to use it inside the script04:35
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wizzlefishubuntu_: you'll need Ruby, Ruby-Gnome2, and ReXML04:35
Madpilotubuntu_, the art manager is called "gnome-art" - install the package thru Synaptic04:36
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_JECKEL_or you could just go to applications and go to add applications04:36
wizzlefisharg I need a bigger HD - Ruby won't fit on mine :(04:36
DrBanzaiSamuli^, Hmm, that gave me an unterminated s command error04:37
_JECKEL_after you installed it, it will show up in your system prefrences menu04:37
_JECKEL_what is Ruby?04:37
wizzlefishRuby is what you need for Gnome-art04:37
Madpilota programming language04:37
_JECKEL_oh04:37
Samuli^drbanzai, did you use the '04:37
_JECKEL_guess I allready have it then >_>04:37
DrBanzaiYup04:37
ubuntu_eh, ive thought about switching but i live in a house with a bunch of computer illiterates and im afraid if i changed theyd freak out when they saw this04:37
DrBanzaiEr, Samuli^ Yes04:37
wizzlefishubuntu_: probably, but you could always dual-boot :)04:37
_JECKEL_well...I have windows and linux on the same hard drive04:38
PORDOthis is so depressing..i can't get my sound working in dapper. :(04:38
ubuntu_yeah,but thats alot of disk space04:38
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nickrud||arifaX, sudo permissions can be odd. you might want to consider giving access to those particular programs in /etc/sudoers. You can give users the ability to run certain programs without entering the password there.04:38
PORDOupgrading blows.04:38
ubuntu_my teacher says somthing about this program VB Manager?or somthing like that,where you can boot linux from windows04:38
_JECKEL_dapper is above breezy right?04:38
wizzlefishubuntu_: not really - if you go for a minimal install, it can be under a couple gigs04:38
wizzlefish_JECKEL_: yes04:38
tonyyarussoubuntu_: vmware perhaps?04:38
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_JECKEL_I'm still on breezy..is it wise to update to dapper?04:39
spikebnot yet.04:39
Madpilot_JECKEL_, Dapper is still in beta04:39
wizzlefishubuntu_: virtual machines work, but they're slow04:39
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ubuntu_maybe04:39
_JECKEL_and how would I update to it by the way? a full reinstall?04:39
nickrud||arifaX, for example, I have ALL     ALL=NOPASSWD: /bin/umount /dev/hdd04:39
nickrud in that file, it allows anyone to unmount the cdrom without entering a password04:39
Samuli^DrBanzai,  I didn't get any errors with: sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:39
NoUse_JECKEL_ no you can upgrade from within ubuntu04:39
overriderhello, i am installing (going to ) ubuntu on an older ibm thinkpad t22 with 900 mhz. i would like to not use gnome or kde at all, rather install something lightweight like fluxbox. is there a way i can tell it to install just that?04:39
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blank_hey guys04:40
_JECKEL_Ubuntu..I have my 80 gig hard-drive partitioned to roughly 50 something windows, 20 something ubuntu04:40
blank_what's the /opt directory for04:40
DrBanzaiSamuli^, Okay, For some reason, I didn't get the last / before the last '04:40
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ubuntu_ah04:40
Madpilotoverrider, do a server install, then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for XFCE04:40
||arifaXnickrud, I see04:40
nickrudblank_, for installing software that is not part of the distribution04:40
blank_basically, I want to install the mplayer plugin for firefox 1.5, but dont know where to; /usr/lib/firefox/plugins or /opt/firefox/plugins04:40
NoUseoverrider you might look into xubuntu, it uses xfce which is lighter than the gnome or kde but has more features than fluxbox04:40
blank_nickrud, so I'm guessing /opt right?04:40
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ubuntu_ok,im a little confused on how to install this gnome-art thing,it opens some script04:40
Flannelblank_: http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg and  http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html04:41
wizzlefishargh...I only have 7.5 GB of disk space left...04:41
overrideryes xfce would also be fine, thanks guys04:41
blank_thanks Flannel04:41
_JECKEL_ubuntu_ at first I didn't like linux because it seemed flat and dead. Then I started exploring and looking for ways to make it look cooler..and honestly..you can get some pretty kick ass looking desk tops04:41
wizzlefishubuntu_: do it with the command line: "sudo apt-get install gnome-art"04:41
MitsurugiI'm gonna go04:41
MitsurugiI'm gonna do that04:41
ubuntu_ok04:41
Samuli^DrBanzai, so anyways.. If all goes well you should have working opengl after reboot :)04:41
wizzlefishubuntu_: but it'll be erased when you reboot04:41
Madpilotubuntu_, applications->add applications, search for gnome-art04:41
MitsurugiHow many do you get wizzlefish?04:41
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blank_!ff1.504:41
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:41
ubuntu_and thats another thing..im not good with that stuff,but im taking programming next year04:41
nickrudblank_, no, you should install the mplayer plugin from the repos; then link from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/mplayer* to wherever you installed your extra firefox04:42
DrBanzaiSamuli^, Okay, thanks!  Full reboot, or just restart X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?04:42
_JECKEL_and even though I only use terminal windows for wine and a few other stuff like tar...you can make em look leet and awesome04:42
wizzlefishMitsurugi: how many whats?04:42
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blank_nickrud, but I think that's for the old firefox, not 1.504:42
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nickrudblank_, !ff1.5 has detailed instructions04:42
_JECKEL_oh bah he left04:42
blank_oh nickrud, i get you now, how do I link04:42
blank_oh okay04:42
Madpilotubuntu_, sorry, search for art manager04:42
_JECKEL_how is he gonna take programming when he basically said he sucks at computers?04:42
nickrudblank_, see that page, seriously. It's correct04:42
ubuntu_well i hve to learn04:42
_JECKEL_oh..damn you and your underscore04:43
blank_nickrud, yeah thanks, sorry for nagging, forgot it was there :(04:43
MitsurugiWizzlesidh: i just tried that command, it didn't work =[04:43
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wizzlefishubuntu_: here's a quick article I wrote: http://noenemies.com/2006/05/15/getting-set-up-in-ubuntu-gnulinux/04:43
nickrudblank_, no sweat :)04:43
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_JECKEL_My terminal window is transparent with a green shade. It's put on my background which is sorta bluish matrix type of thing so in the terminal window it looks like normal black and green matrixness04:43
wizzlefishubuntu_: not the best, but it might get you convinced that GNU/Linux isn't hard to use (unless you want to do some hard stuff)04:43
Samuli^drbanzai, I'm not sure actually. I think you need to at least restart gdm04:43
blank_thanks nickrud that should do it, but by the way, I did as it said in the guide, ' sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .', but I think I also have /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, should I do that too?04:44
_JECKEL_looks pretty kick ass with the green letters that are brighter than the background of the terminal so it's easy to read04:44
xbox_guruI have wep and I"m trying to use the ubuntu network configuration, and I want to know what settings I should use for the WEP. I have a 128bit encryption and was wondering, should I use hexidecimal or the other setting.04:44
Chris_TuckerUm .. help? Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda6 ... how do i fix this? its ext3... and its saying its not a correct ext2 filesystem, and gives an e2fsck line to try, but that too produces this error04:44
roostishawhow do i fix a broken package anyone?04:44
DrBanzaiSamuli^, Okay, I'll try restarting X, and if that dosen't work, I'll do a full reboot04:44
wizzlefishMitsurugi: the command should work - what did it tell you?04:44
NoUseroostishaw try 'sudo apt-get -f install'04:44
Samuli^I'm gonna restart too.04:44
_JECKEL_the best thing about Linux is that it and mostly everything with it is free04:44
nickrudblank_, I pointed you at that page because it was correct, follow it not my off the cuff example :)04:44
NoUseroostishaw what package is broken?04:45
roostishawNoUse, tried that, but it sends me into an endless loop   :(04:45
blank_nickrud, yeah I just realized that...thanks04:45
roostishawNoUse, firefox04:45
wizzlefish_JECKEL_: here are many more reasons: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net04:45
_JECKEL_Now all I have to figure out is wine to it's fullest so I can get diablo 2 to run on it right.04:45
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blank_nickrud, so now just restart firefox right04:45
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blank_how can I see what ln's are where?04:45
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blank_if it's even possible04:45
ubuntu_and thats another downside to linux for me,to many damn computer critics04:45
_JECKEL_wizzlefish, honestly...I find myself in linux because I have near complete controll over the way it looks and runs04:46
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mattcraigschultzhey, anybody know why i cant use gparted to shrink my ext3 fs / partition on hda3?04:46
wizzlefish_JECKEL_: I like it because it's fast, customizable, and, come on, their mascot is a penguin! :)04:46
Chris_TuckerUm .. help? Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda6 ... how do i fix this? its ext3... and its saying its not a correct ext2 filesystem, and gives an e2fsck line to try, but that too produces this error04:46
ubuntu_hahahahah whizzlefish04:46
_JECKEL_Yeah..penguin's are cool..and the startup is nice and fast04:46
NoUseroostishaw have you tried removing the package and reinstalling?04:46
ubuntu_cant deny the penguin04:46
_JECKEL_oh..and the security of it too04:47
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_JECKEL_not many linux viruses out there and you never hear of spyware for linux04:47
_JECKEL_the only thing I really hate is that it took alot of work to get to play various media files04:47
MitsurugiWizzleFish: it said it couldn't find the pakcage gnaome art04:47
nickrudblank_, if all went well, no restart necessary04:47
siccnessAfternoon guys!04:47
_JECKEL_here's an idea for the next Ubuntu....come complete with all that is needed to run the various media files04:48
blank_nickrud, oh okay...04:48
ubuntu_I've heard linux is actually good for hacking?or one form of it.04:48
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blank_wonder how I'd know if it went well, let me see...ah yes i'll stream some video i guess04:48
Chris_Tucker_JECKEL_, i believe that is illegal04:48
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_JECKEL_Chris_Tucker, how? when I can get the packages in synaptic?04:48
tonyyarusso_JECKEL_: They can be available for you to get, but they can't be distributed.04:49
Chris_Tucker_JECKEL_, actually, im right, in certain countries its illegal to download certain codecs04:49
tonyyarusso(Licensing nuances.)04:49
nickrudblank_, yes, that's exactly right :)04:49
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_JECKEL_stupid other countries. :\04:49
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tonyyarussoChris_Tucker: That too.04:49
Chris_Tucker_JECKEL_, the main one being the US04:49
tonyyarussoThe redistribution part is global for certain things though.04:49
pitufohi04:49
_JECKEL_eh...as far as I know there is no restriction on codecs in the US04:50
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nickrud_JECKEL_, Patent and license restrictions on media formats complicate a free operating system's ability to distribute software that will support those formats. Ubuntu actively supports the FreeFormats. This page will walk you through getting support for the most popular non-free media formats.04:50
Madpilot_JECKEL_, there certainly is.04:50
pitufoanyone know how to avoid the cpu fan pb on imac g5 ?04:50
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blank_it works!04:50
_JECKEL_which codecs?04:50
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_JECKEL_because I have...alot. >_>04:50
nickrudblank_, great04:50
blank_thanks nickrud04:50
nickrudblank_, I expended a lot of time & effort on learning that :)04:51
blank_haha04:51
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siccnessWould there be any particular reason why downloading is much quicker in Linux over windows?04:51
etaoinsrhldwhat's the equivalent of apt-cache search but for _installed_ packages?04:51
DrBanzaiCan anybody here help me with my ATI drivers?  When I do fglrxinfo I keep getting that MESA junk...04:52
ubuntu_Ok,im still confused on the gnome art thing.04:52
spikebnickrud: good news though - if i recall correctly, the mp3 patent is set to expire within the next couple of years04:52
nickrudetaoinsrhld, dpkg -i <packagename>04:52
ubuntu_i set it up and put that commad line in but nothing04:52
etaoinsrhldsiccness, MTU, maybe? viruses, worms, bittorrent clients running in the background?04:52
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blank_hey I'm configuring it, just to play around with it, for video output, would 'gl' be faster? Yes I do have working drivers04:52
_JECKEL_siccness, the only reason I can think of is that you don't have a bunch of background internet crap going on.04:52
etaoinsrhldthanks nickrud04:52
_JECKEL_Windows has open ports and stuff that are just transfering info from your comp all the time04:52
Madpilotubuntu_, after you install it, look in System->Preferences->Art Manager to start it04:52
_JECKEL_and it gets bitchy when you close a port off04:52
blank_wow I just realized that I just dist-upgrad'ed, and my gl drivers aren't working!04:52
nickrudspikeb, good news. of course, we hope that ogg replaces mp3, just like png replaced gif *cough*04:52
siccness_JECKEL_: Yeah, it's just that winxp was downloading at 80KB/sec, this linux computer here is downloading at 160KB04:52
siccnessSame server, same file.04:52
siccnessNot complaining, just curious :|04:53
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_JECKEL_like I said..windows has alot of background functions04:53
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spikebnickrud: it would be nice if ogg had the same momentum that png did, yeah.04:53
ubuntu_eh..its not there04:53
_JECKEL_I usually am able to max at around 27kb on linux04:53
siccnessYeah, _JECKEL_. Big difference tho eh? :D04:53
_JECKEL_and 24kb on windows04:53
etaoinsrhldnickrud, you misunderstood me.. i want to search the db to determine if a particular app is installed, not install it anew04:53
wizzlefishubuntu_: about hacking - do you mean hacking...or cracking?04:53
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nullified!ftp04:53
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd04:53
siccness_JECKEL_: I'm assuming 256kbit?04:53
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nickrudetaoinsrhld, sorry, dpkg -l (I claim typo)04:53
nullified!proftpd04:54
ubotunullified: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:54
_JECKEL_yeah. i'm rockin the DSL lite from bellsouth04:54
etaoinsrhldnickrud, oh, woops, thanks04:54
Lob-SogularI've got an athlon64 x2 (using 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp) but `sudo modprobe powernow_k8` fails telling me there's no such device... any idea why?04:54
nickrudof course, claims are useless :)04:54
blank_!ati04:54
ubotuwell, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358904:54
nullified!vsftpd04:54
ubotunullified: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:54
siccnessHeh.04:54
ubuntu_whichever,my coach just recommended some form of linux to someone ,and was like"you could hack the damn CIA  with that"or somthing..being sarcastic of course but still04:54
siccnessI tried the installation of ATI drivers, boy did that fail :)04:54
jhennwhats a good cdrw for ubuntu?04:54
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spikebThe Fraunhofer patents expire April 2010, at which time MP3 algorithms become public domain.04:55
DrBanzaisiccness, I had it working once...04:55
spikebwoot04:55
_JECKEL_Eh...I dunno what is better for "Hacking"04:55
Madpilotjhenn, a burning app, or an actual drive?04:55
siccnessDrBanzai: Yeah? Can't get it to work again?04:55
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_JECKEL_because I never graduated beyond script kiddie04:55
DrBanzaisiccness, Nope, now I have it so messed up from reinstalling this and that...it's all borked04:55
_JECKEL_I know C++ now..but that won't really help at all >_>04:55
jhennMadpilot: drive04:55
roostishawanyone know how to copy protect a cd in ubuntu?04:56
siccnessEek, just put up with it until Dapper is released :)04:56
siccnessThen try again :)04:56
jhennroostishaw: why would you want to do that04:56
wizzlefishhacking is modifying open-source code....like changing Ubuntu to work the way you want04:56
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Madpilotjhenn, nearly anything should work, I think. I've got a Pioneer DVD/CD-RW, for what it's worth04:56
jhennMadpilot: oh04:56
_JECKEL_he meant in the media way wizzlefish04:56
wizzlefishI del.icio.us'd a few hacking guides at some point in time - lemme find em04:56
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roostishawjhenn, why not   :D  mainly fun with friends04:56
wizzlefish_JECKEL_: oh, that type04:56
nickrudjhenn, most modern cdrw will work in ubuntu04:56
_JECKEL_ya know "ZOMG! HACKERS ATTACK TEH PENTAGON WITH L33T INFO STEALING BANK ACCOUNT VIRUSES!"04:57
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siccnessYeah, I've had all 4 DVD and CD-Writers that I've got to work in Linux. Pioneer 106d, 110, Plextor 16x10x40A and another Pioneer04:57
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_JECKEL_oh..and chicks dig the ubuntu because of the games >_>04:58
nickrudschilling did good work on cdrecord04:58
DBO_JECKEL_, its not nice to lie =P04:59
_JECKEL_it's the only thing my girlfriend is interested in for linux >_>04:59
DBOchicks dig the ubuntu because of the baby tux backgrounds and thats it04:59
spikebchicks dig freeciv?04:59
spikebheh04:59
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nickrudnah, it's the warty backgrounds04:59
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_JECKEL_they dig the frozen bubbles game04:59
Lob-Sogularbleh. all the google searches are turning up information about powernow_k8 working... that's not particularly useful05:00
high-freqto get the /usr/src/linux  do i do  apt-get install linux-source  ?05:00
nickrudhigh-freq, yes05:00
high-freqk05:00
high-freqto this running kernel ofcourse05:00
high-freq2.6.12-k7 or somethin like that05:00
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nickrudhigh-freq, sorry, it's actually linux-source-2.6.1205:01
high-freqso  linux-source  just installs for the running kernel05:01
high-freqk05:01
high-freqgotcha05:01
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Brennanim confued05:01
Brennanconfused*05:01
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Brennantrying to install limewire,i found the right source but i dont get how to install from then on05:02
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nickrud!limewire05:02
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.05:02
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Brennanok05:02
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Brennanit said somthing about java05:02
nickrudBrennan, there'll be a link following05:02
nickrud!javadebs05:02
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Chris_TuckerUm .. help? Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda6 ... how do i fix this? its ext3... and its saying its not a correct ext2 filesystem, and gives an e2fsck line to try, but that too produces this error05:03
nickrudJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:03
Brennani love limewire..because you can use free limewire..to download LimeWirePro05:03
shawncan someone help me please, i just installed linux on a partition, i have windows xp on the other, and when i try to view files from the other partition, it says that im not the owner05:03
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willis_!ntfs05:03
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:03
nickrudshadow`, you need to enable access, see what willis_ just said :)05:04
willis_shawn,  you need to edit the fstab so you can mount them witht eh right permissions.05:04
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nickrudobviously not this one05:04
shawnfstab?05:04
willis_heck the others are all turned off i thought. :P05:04
willis_!fstab05:04
ubotuthe /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.05:04
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nickrudshawn, /etc/fstab (file system table) defines how your windows partition is read. That link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions explains a lot05:05
AlmtyBobdoh is there an option with 'ls' in linux to list directory sizes?05:06
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apokryphosAlmtyBob: yes, ls -lh05:06
AbnixI'm trying to install intel dri driver on my dell inspiron 1100 craptop, I need to have the current kernel config for a fresh (updated) install...what do I apt-get? (or usign the gui package system...)05:06
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apokryphosAlmtyBob: whoops, for directories: du -h05:07
CokeNCodehey, goodnight everyone, i'm looking for an ftp client05:07
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CokeNCode something that works like filezilla ...05:07
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nickrudAbnix, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)05:07
FlannelCokeNCode: you can use nautilus05:07
FlannelCokeNCode: (thats the file browser)05:07
apokryphosCokeNCode: nautilus, gftp are popular GTK+ ones05:07
AlmtyBobapokryphos: that doesn't give the size of the their05:07
AlmtyBobah thanks05:07
Abnixty nickrud05:07
MadpilotCokeNCode, for basic FTP, use Nautilus. Happily, the Filezilla project is working on a Linux port05:07
CokeNCodeFlannel, cool, thanks05:07
pitufoanyone know how to avoid the cpu fan pb on imac g5 ?05:08
nickrudAbnix, hm, I think I may be giving you incorrect help05:08
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hou5tonok ... i have changed the sources.lst to dapper and done these two:  sudo apt-get update05:08
hou5tonsudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:08
nickrudAbnix, which intel driver? 915 or the like?05:08
hou5tonanything else?05:08
nickrudhou5ton, you should be done05:08
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hou5tonnickrud:  do i need to reboot?05:09
shawnwhen it says to type these lines, where do i type them? lol05:09
nickrudhou5ton, yes, but only because you've installed a new kernel05:09
Abnixnickrud: this has the 82845g/gl   the one that requires that 23rd party patch to run allocating RAM for video...05:09
hou5tonok... thanks05:09
king_anyone running XGL/Compiz05:09
Flannelking_: #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-xgl05:09
king_thanx05:09
james_question... would ubuntu work well on an old AMD k6 system running at about 500Mhz with 512k RAM?05:10
willis_james_,  whoulkd work ok05:10
Abnixjames_: should work great05:10
nickrudAbnix, ok. Then the command I gave will give you what you need to build a module. I'm not really up on intel video drivers, but I'd look harder to see if ubuntu has native support05:10
willis_james_,  ive ran it on less.05:10
hyphenatedjames_: it'll work fairly nicely05:10
james_cool ty.....05:10
shawnwhen it says to type these lines, where do i type them? lol05:10
james_would KDE work on that system?05:10
Flanneljames_: yes.05:10
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willis_james_,  may be better off with a lighter window manager/de however05:11
Flanneljames_: although, you might look into xubuntu05:11
Abnixnickrud: that I've seen, rh, gentoo, and a few others just kinda throw their hands up in the air at this card and mutter under their breath a bit 'wtf was intel thinking?'05:11
nickrudAbnix, like 915 resolution in dapper, not available in breezy05:11
Abnixnickrud: thanks much for the help though05:11
james_i want to do xubuntu, but the install did not recognize the network card so that system has no internet access....05:11
james_so in the mean time, i thought i would just du ubuntu/kubuntu05:12
high-freqok..i just did installed linux-source-2.6.12  but uh..this is kernel  2.6.12-10-k7   or does it matter?05:12
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nickrudAbnix, I always say, wtf was <fill in the blank> thinking :_05:12
Lob-Sogularlovely: [  120.949361]  powernow-k8: Found 2 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version05:12
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Lob-Sogular!@#05:12
ubotuLob-Sogular: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:12
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Lob-Sogularsilly linebreaks05:12
Lob-SogularI'm getting: [  120.949361]  powernow-k8: Found 2 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.40.4) / [  120.949546]  powernow-k8: MP systems not supported by PSB BIOS structure / [  120.949696]  powernow-k8: MP systems not supported by PSB BIOS structure05:13
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nickrudhigh-freq, no, it does not matter. The default config your ubuntu is using is in /boot/config-$(uname -r)05:13
high-freqok05:14
Lob-Sogularin dmesg when I try load powernow_k8 on an athlon64 x2 4200 on an a8n-e mobo05:14
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james_as i was attempting to install xubuntu (without at first realizing that i needed net access for that, i went ahead and installed ubuntu server.... what would be the easiest way to add the K desktop to the server WITHOUT net access?05:14
shawnwhen it says to type these lines, where do i type them? lol05:14
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nickrudjames_, there is no easy way for xubuntu under breezy05:14
Flanneljames_: which CD do you have?05:14
CaBlGuYon yur keyboard silly..  :p05:14
james_i have ubuntu 5.1005:15
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james_would i be able to install GNOME with the ubuntu CD?05:15
Flannelyes05:15
abarbacciahey guys - anybody here good with bash scripting?05:15
nickrudjames_, yes05:15
james_ok, that would be well enough05:15
Flanneljames_: I dont know if kde is included on the ubuntu CD though.05:15
nickrudjames_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop05:16
james_Flannel, i don't think it is05:16
nickrudno kde on ubuntu05:16
james_ty nickrud05:16
bur[n] erjames_: gnome is installed by default05:16
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abarbacciaif i write a bash script, chroot to a new root, how can i execute the rest of the script on that new root?05:16
james_bur[n] er, , i installed server05:17
james_so i have no desktop05:17
james_i think.... lol05:17
bur[n] eraww05:17
Flanneljames_: right.  do that ;)05:17
shawnim lost...05:17
bur[n] erlisten to nickrud then :)05:17
willis_abarbaccia,  that may be... difficult.05:17
james_thanks!05:17
abarbacciawillis_: i'm seeing this now05:17
willis_abarbaccia,  check that 'advance bash scripting guide'05:17
nickrudwillis_, you are a master of understatement05:17
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abarbacciawillis_: maybe i'll set it up as two different scripts or something05:18
willis_abarbaccia,  yep. thats what i was thinking05:18
FlannelAbnix: you'd be using su, or two terminals ;)05:18
siccnessAbnix: probably logged in as root :P05:18
shawnim extremely new to linux and need help05:18
abarbacciawillis_: if i set it up as 2 scripts i can pass the 2nd script as the command to run05:19
Abnixwell no, I use it for when I input a command and forget to put a sudo in front05:19
nickrudshawn, you need help with fixing your /etc/fstab?05:19
shawnyes, i went to that site, and it says to type some stuff in, but i dont know where to type it in lol05:19
willis_shawn, it may be wworth the effort to read a few introduction  to linux guides and howtos.05:19
siccnessterminal05:20
Abnixlinux command line is about lazy typing... (but here we all are in irc...)   sudo !!  just execs the previous command, and I mean it this time...05:20
willis_!bash05:20
ubotuFor a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands05:20
willis_!intro05:20
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, willis_05:20
willis_:(05:20
abarbacciawillis_: ya think it would work if i just put chroot <dir> command1; command2; command3; etc..05:20
nickrudshawn, ok. start with Applications->Accessories-Terminal from the top menu bar05:20
willis_abarbaccia,  not sure check the chroot man pages.. ya can always try it and see.05:20
FlannelAbnix: you know you can just hit the uparrow, and recall your last command, right? (so, up, home, 'sudo ', enter)05:20
FlannelAbnix: and of course, you can scroll through your commands further with the arrow keys05:21
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CokeNCodeI'm having a frustrating linux night05:21
MitsurugiHow do you install limewire?05:21
nickrudshawn, did that open a window for you?05:21
CokeNCodewhy is Nautilus asking for a directory? and not prompting me for a login password05:21
CokeNCode*sighs heavily05:22
siccnessyou can always type history to see previous commands as well, another useful thing :)05:22
AbnixFlannel: yes. but. see comment on 'LAZY'   sudo !!  == fewer keystrokes than up-arrow, home, sudo <enter>05:22
shawnyea05:22
nickrudshawn, good. That's the place you're going to type nearly everything someone says here.05:22
FlannelAbnix: right, but it also means you can only do the last command, and you aren't sure if that command is "apt-get yadda" or "rm -rf" ;)05:22
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shawnok05:22
shawnthanks05:22
FlannelAbnix: I'd rather be sure, than lazy and reinstalling ;)05:22
siccnessHeheh, Flannel :P05:22
AbnixFlannel: but I just typed it in...  (o:05:22
pitufohi05:23
nickrudshawn, the first thing we're going to do is make a copy of the filesystem table so if everything goes tits up, we can recover :)05:23
pitufoanyone know how to avoid the cpu fan pb on imac g5 ?05:23
swissbearwhich software for make an iso image disk?05:23
shawnok05:23
high-freqnickrud: this is a fresh install....is there anything i must install before i do make menuconfig  cuz its givin me errors when i do make menuconfig   in /usr/src/linux after i made the link from the soruces05:23
nickrudshawn, in that terminal, type cp /etc/fstab ~05:23
CokeNCodeok, i got it05:24
nickrudhigh-freq, copy the config from /boot to /usr/src/linux, then type make oldconfig05:24
shawnit didnt do anything05:24
swissbearI mean for burn an iso image05:24
high-freqaaah ok05:24
nickrudshawn, yes it did. if you type ls in the terminal, you should see fstab listed (ls is the same as dir in windows)05:24
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shawnok05:25
high-freqnickrud: do i rename it to .config?05:25
nickrudhigh-freq, yes05:25
high-freqif so then its still erroring out05:25
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overridersorry, after i did a server install, which is the command to install xorg? i installed xorg-common , but i still do not able to startx05:25
high-freqmake, *** [scripts_basic]  error 205:25
nickrudshawn, now, type gksudo gedit /etc/fstab in the terminal , it should open a file and show you some text,05:26
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samuliswissbear, just nautilus or terminal.05:26
high-freqd/l the soure..unpacked it...did  ln -s  source_file linux   then cp the config for this kernel over and rename to .config  then make oldconfig   ...still erorrs out05:26
samuliin dapper there's folder cd/dvd creation in places and you just put stuff there then do write to disc and choose write an iso05:26
shawnerm05:27
CokeNCodeit's always sad when you realise the easy way to do something, about 90% of the way thru doing it the hard way ...05:27
shawnGnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:05:27
shawnAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.05:27
samulii don't remember if there's that in breezy though.05:27
nickrudshawn, those are warnings, not errors. no sweat05:27
shawnthere isnt any text in the doc that came up05:27
samulishawn, are you using sudo -i ?05:28
shawnno clue05:28
nickrudshawn, close it then. samuli he's using gksudo05:28
samulianyways, try sudo gedit05:28
shawni did sudo gedit /etc/fstab05:29
shawnand i got text this time05:29
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nickrudshawn, good, work from there05:29
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shawnwat do i do now?05:30
samulinickrud, dunno :/ All I know is that gksudo is useful for in menu and stuff.05:30
nickrudshawn, no, open a firefox browser window to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and copy the text to that web page, and submit it. That way we can see what your /etc/fstab is05:30
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nickrudshawn, that no after your name should have been now :)05:31
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DrBanzaiSo, do you think fglrxconfig will screw things up worse then they are?  Anyone?05:31
overrideri already installed the package xorg-server-core, biut it still doesnt have the startx command is there are site which shows the right package to install for xorg xserver05:31
samuliI have entries like: gksudo nautilus and gksudo gedit sources.list in my gnome-menu :)05:31
nickrudsamuli, gksudo sets the home dir to roots, but preserves all the same stuff otherwise that sudo -s does05:32
shawnok i submitted05:32
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samulinickrud, and displays that nice windows to type your password.05:32
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samuliI think 'sudo nautilus' wouldn't work in the menu.05:33
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roostishawwhat does the -R flag do when removing something?05:33
roostishawanyone05:34
citronhi guys!05:34
samulirootishaw, removes recursively all sub-dirs and their files.05:34
high-freq!kernel05:34
roostishawok, so i dont need to use it for just one file?05:34
samulisudo rm -R is something to almost never used :)05:34
high-freq!kernel howto05:34
ubotuhigh-freq: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:34
high-freqhmm05:35
samulirootishaw, man rm05:35
citronroostishaw no...05:35
roostishawok, thanks!05:35
citronlike, if you want to remove all directories and subdirs of the folder "hiall"05:35
citronyou type: rm -rf hiall05:35
citron-f to force the remove if something... well..05:36
citronand -r to remove the dir.05:36
citron:)~05:36
citronif you want to remove only one file, you can use just "rm filename"05:36
citronbut, rm -rf is nice :D~05:36
nickrudshawn, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14105 Do you see the addition I made, to line 6?05:36
citronhey guys, ubuntu have live-cd?05:37
siccnessSure does, citron.05:37
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adri_hi bob05:37
adri_im blank05:37
adri_uh05:37
citron[siccness] : nice. i want to test ubuntu :D~05:37
adri_ok05:37
citroneverybody here says that is great :D~05:37
shawn,fmask=0111,dmask=000005:38
siccness:) I'm very new to Ubuntu, or even Linux for that matter.05:38
adri_i dont know how though05:38
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siccnessBut I recommend installing it.05:38
samuliwhat's fmask and dmask?05:38
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siccnessLive CDs are too slow, for my liking anyway.05:38
nickrudshawn, make the changes to the fstab in gedit, and save it05:38
adri_can someone help me install abunto?05:38
nickrudsamuli, file mask and directory mask05:38
adri_or help me draw this cool thing?05:38
siccness*ubuntu, adri_, any part in particular?05:38
shawnok done05:39
adri_uh.. the drawing part05:39
nickrudshawn, now close gedit05:39
samulicitron, take the new dapper flight 7 live cd so you can install if you like it ;)05:39
siccnessOh, my apologies.05:39
siccnessHeh.05:39
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shawnk05:39
adri_ok05:39
adri_thanks bye05:39
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lsupihow ready is dapper?05:39
nickrudshawn, now, type this exactly: sudo umount /dev/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda105:39
adri_hi blank blank meet blank05:39
DBOlsupi, its beta and should not be used for production environments until it is released05:40
adri_blank meet blank05:40
samulinickrud, ok. why do you need different permissions for files and folders?05:40
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shawnok05:40
RonaldMcDonaldHello people05:40
lsupiDBO, thanks05:40
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RonaldMcDonaldadri_, you need help in installing ubuntu?05:40
nickrudsamuli, cuz directories need executable bits, files don't05:40
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shawnyay i got access now lol05:40
adri_hello05:40
samulinickrud, ok. Good to know.05:40
shawnty nickrud, you are very helpfull05:41
high-freqok is there anything else to install.... make oldconfig is still erroring out05:41
samuliI've always just used umask.05:41
adri_i i uh i al- always wanted to to uh ge- get your aou- aoutograph!05:41
high-freqor is there a wiki on kernel howto with ubuntu kernels05:41
Xbox_gur1hello, how do I install new applications using the internet05:41
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nickrudsamuli, you can also give groups permissions to write to a fat32 using that (I do that for shared files between users)05:41
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nickrudshawn, thanks05:41
tritium!kernelcompile05:41
ubotuYou will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto05:41
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bimberi!install05:41
ubotuInstalling Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware05:41
bimberiXbox_gur1: ^^^^ (2nd link)05:42
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samulinickrud: doesn't gid= do the same.. oh, right. fat32 doesn't handle permissions well.05:42
samulior is that even an option for fat32 drive.05:42
nickrudsamuli, exactly, but you can specify group write in the fstab :)05:42
samuliwell, it's good to know more stuff!05:43
nickrudI still haven't figured out how to force group write permission without changing the users default group write. Doing it in fat32 is trivial, so I hack it that way05:44
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mjbheyall does anyone know a way to make a dual screen setup have one monitors metacity windows set to always on visible workspace automatically?05:44
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gearryI am having some trouble playing audio CDs05:44
shawnhow would i go about running exe files on linux?05:44
Flannelshawn: are the windows programs?05:44
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shawnyea05:44
Flannelshawn: check out wine.05:44
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gearryI figured out a way to make it work, but I suspect I have a larger problem that I would like to solve05:45
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nickrudshawn, by installing wine, which is ' wine is not a windows emulator ' :)05:45
outlawcrookok05:45
gearryif I put the cd in the drive and press play, than the analog audio plays just fine and I can control the volume with the mixer05:45
shawnso with wine, i will be able to run normal windows programs and games?05:45
gearrybut if I attempt to use the cd player I get nothing05:45
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outlawcrooki installed the 32 bit version of this os and it loaded my nividia 6600GT card no prob05:46
outlawcrook:)05:46
gearrythe app sees the disc, and says it is playing, but I hear nothing05:46
Flannelshawn: some of them.  yeah. ideally all of them, but in reality, not all.05:46
nickrudshawn, some, no promises05:46
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shawnok lol05:46
paulbwhen trying to install packages i get the following error: http://pastebin.com/71997505:46
shawnso should i just google wine, or does some1 have a link?05:46
Flannel!wine05:47
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Flannel!tell shawn about wine05:47
blank_!ff1.505:47
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:47
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DrBanzai!opengl05:48
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DrBanzai05:48
hanasakiwhat version and when are the cool eyecandy of xorg slated to be in?05:48
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Flannelhanasaki: you mean xgl?  edgy, probably.  (6.10)05:48
nickrudhanasaki, you can run it on dapper, but dapper+1 is supposed to have it05:48
hanasakidapper+1?05:49
Xbox_gur1hey, somethings wrong with my package manager, it says an error occured, please run Package Manager from the right click menu or apt-get ona terminal to see what is wrong05:49
hanasakiwe are currently on dapper?05:49
tritiumhanasaki: the release after dapper05:49
nickrudeft. eh. slimy things crawling on creekbeds05:49
samuliI want enlightenment 1705:49
Flannelhanasaki: no, dapper is being released june 1.  it'll be october for the next.05:49
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hanasakiah... cool.. is there a url with whats new and exciting in dapper listed?05:49
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spikeb5.10 - the breezy badger05:50
tritiumhanasaki: lsb_release -a05:50
hanasakiubuntu = gnome based?  kubuntu = kde based?05:50
Flannelhanasaki: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta05:50
Kyoskei need some help05:50
spikebhanasaki: yes05:50
bimberi!tell samuli about e1705:50
Flannelhanasaki: yes.  and xubuntu is xfce.05:51
hanasakitritium:  thanks.. but i am not on a ubuntu box at the moment05:51
sciyoshisamuli: check out "ebuntu" :-)05:51
nickrudKyoske, what with?05:51
Kyoskewhen i was installing ubuntu it screwed up =(05:51
tritiumhanasaki: okay05:51
hanasakiand edubuntu has what in it?05:51
ks1I am sure there is a very good reason why ubuntu is still using udev 079? does anyone know or can provide a link?05:51
martyndahow do you find out which clock speed the processor is currently running at on a centrino chip?05:51
nickrudKyoske, that is not exactly a helpful error message :)05:51
bimberihanasaki: edubuntu = ubuntu + ltsp + educational apps (basically)05:51
hanasakii will likely go to dapper in june from debina testing05:51
BratscheHello...05:51
Kyoskei know05:51
hanasakiltsp?05:51
samulibimber, I know that stuff.. I just want it to be ready as in stable and, well, working :)05:51
Kyoskeits just that05:51
Kyoskei got to the part05:52
Kyoskeabout particians05:52
bimberi!ltsp05:52
ubotuit has been said that ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy).  See also http://www.ltsp.org/05:52
hanasakiah05:52
hanasakithakns05:52
Kyoskeand i was all like wtf!??!05:52
samulisciyoshi: hmm, ebuntu?05:52
bimberihanasaki: yw :)05:52
paulbcan anyone shead some light on this:nstall vhcs*05:52
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paulbhttp://pastebin.com/71997505:52
nickrudKyoske, ok that's common, but your exact situation will clear up the wtf05:52
Ahmuckhi hanasaki05:52
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hanasakisup Ahmuck  .. you being a pain in the but here too lol?05:53
Kyoskehuh, how?05:53
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ks1anyone?05:53
Kyoskeall i wanted to do was install ubuntu to my computer and it didnt05:53
Ahmuck:-p05:53
slackernks1: darn thats quite old05:53
slackernks1: 0.79 i mean05:53
nickrudKyoske, ubuntu is careful, it tries very hard not to screw your windows install05:53
hanasakianyone have a link that shows the release versions /target dates of ubuntu and the relationshipo between  version number and name?05:53
ks1slackern, yes :P05:53
AhmuckKyoske: what kind of partition problem are you having ?05:53
Kyoskethe regular kind05:53
Kyoskei dont know im new to this05:54
Apostle^nickrud, ubuntu always does right by windows, of course windows never does right by anything ( including it's self )05:54
Kyoskei burned the image like on guy said for me to do so05:54
samulipaulb: maybe you just update your ubuntu first?05:54
ks1I am wondering because the newer versions of udev fix a lot of issues05:54
Kyoskeand i started to instal it05:54
Xbox_gur1package manager says I have 1 broken package on my system, what should I do05:54
Kyoskebut then it got to the part about particians and resizing05:54
paulbsamuli:what do you mean?05:54
nickrudKyoske, you got to the partition section, and you were right to back out until you know what you are doing05:55
Kyoskeand it wouldnt let me get past that05:55
spikebXbox_gur1: sudo type apt-get -f install05:55
samulipauldb, it said "275 not upgraded"05:55
Kyoskei know i got really scare di was going to kill somthing05:55
AhmuckKyoske: new drive or old one with data ?05:55
Kyoskesee i have no idea what that means..05:55
Flannelks1: because breezy was released with udev 075. and subsequent versions of udev were released after dapper.05:55
Flannelks1: erm, breezy.05:55
ks1Flannel, I am talking about dapper..05:55
AhmuckKyoske: did you have anything on your computer ?05:55
paulbwell it is beta 205:56
nickrudKyoske, do you have a D: partition you don't care about?05:56
Flannelks1: well then, this isn't the channel for it.05:56
Kyoskea D: partition?05:56
ks1Flannel, the snapshot also has 079.05:56
Kyoskewhats that?05:56
ks1Flannel, what is the channel then?05:56
Flannelks1: #ubuntu+105:56
ks1k, thx05:56
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Flannelks1: this is strictly breezy05:56
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Kyoskeand plz forgive my noobnishness05:56
nickrudKyoske, when you open windows filemanager, do you have a D: drive as sell as a C: drive?05:57
Xbox_gur1spikeeb, "sudo type apt-get -f install", what should I type in?05:57
Kyosked drive lemme check, but i dont think i do05:57
Kyoskei have c to j without a d05:57
Xbox_gur1i don't know which package it is05:57
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Kyoskeso no05:57
Kyoskei dont have a D: drive05:58
samulipauldb, you're using dapper drake right?05:58
shawnwats dapper and breezy?05:58
Agent_bobwhois root05:58
paulbsamuli:yep05:58
Madpilotshawn, different versions of Ubuntu05:58
paulbill go to #ubuntu+105:58
samulipauldb, you really should update :)05:58
shawnhow do i know which im using?05:58
james_man it is taking along time to install GNOME desktop on  this old computer lol..... and it looks like gstreamer install is producing a lot of errors... would anyone know why that might be?? sound card issues?05:58
Madpilotshawn, probably Breezy, unless you know you're running the beta version, which is Dapper05:59
shawnok thanks05:59
Agent_bobshawn lsb-release05:59
nickrudKyoske, I'm gonna have to hand you off to people who know more about installing ubuntu onto resized partitions.05:59
Xbox_gur1can someone please help me with my Package manager, it tells me there is a broken package05:59
Kyoskewho?05:59
samuliI wouldn't use the installation programs resizing functions.06:00
Xbox_gur1can anyone...06:00
paulbAgent_bob: root is the superuser06:00
DrBanzaiI have my ATI driver and OpenGL installes all messed up...how can I get rid of it all, and install the right stuff?06:00
Agent_bobXbox_gur1 sudo apt-get install -f06:00
Kyoskeok i wont then06:00
paulbok im updating06:00
nickrudKyoske, they show up here, ask your question about every 10 minutes. That's how I got sucked into this channel. I asked questions, and then repeated the answers :)06:00
Kyoske=\ hrm06:01
Kyoskewell i got one last question06:01
Agent_bobpaulb  :)06:01
Kyoskeis 104 GB enough06:01
samuli:)06:01
paulba bit too much06:01
james_samuli, i used the resizing deal in the installation program... and now there is about 20gig on my hard drive that i no longer have access to LOL06:01
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Xbox_gur1Agent_Bob: I got this error E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:01
Xbox_gur1E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:01
Kyoskeis that enough space?06:01
spikebyeah that is plenty of space06:01
samulijames_ yeah :P06:01
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Kyoskebecuase when installing06:01
samuliKyoske: It's plenty.06:02
Agent_bobKyoske no06:02
Kyoskeits was showing numbers like06:02
outlawcrookok 1 more question06:02
Kyoske160 GB and 125 GB06:02
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paulbKyose:i have it installed on a 20 gb06:02
Kyoskebut why wont it let me install?06:02
samuliwhole ubuntu could fit into 1,5gb.06:02
Agent_bobXbox_gur1 so close synaptic first06:02
james_i am installing ubuntu right now on an 8gb06:02
Kyoskewhy does it have the numbers 160GB and 125GB06:02
outlawcrookhow do i get this to see a windows network,see and use them06:02
BratscheWhat's the minimum RAM you should have before installing ubuntu?06:02
AgentCyis it possible to get XFree86 to work on Ubuntu?06:03
Flanneloutlawcrook: samba06:03
samuliKyoske: those are the sizes of your harddrives?06:03
Kyoskealright06:03
FlannelBratsche: what do you want to do with your ubuntu installation?06:03
samuliBratsche: I had as little as 128MB myself06:03
Kyoskeso why wouldnt it let me install it06:03
outlawcrookdo i have to turn that on06:03
outlawcrooki dont see it06:03
outlawcrook?06:03
DBOAgentCy, it probably could be worked out, but why>06:03
samuliBratsche: and xubuntu can be installed with 64MB06:03
Kyoskeit told me to manualy mess with the particians06:03
Xbox_gur1Agent_bob: thanks06:03
Kyoskeand i got very sad ><06:03
Flannel!tell outlawcrook about samba06:04
Bratschesamuli: Is it any good with 156MB?06:04
BratscheOr should I use xubuntu?06:04
Agent_bob<samuli> whole ubuntu could fit into 1,5gb <<< default install preezy takes 1.8   all packages would take over 12g  server install takes about 300m iirc06:04
samuliBratsche: well, I managed :)06:04
FlannelBratsche: you'll do fine.  If its slow for your tastes, you can always install xubuntu later.06:04
Agent_bobmy b is lazy, thinks it's a p06:04
FlannelBratsche: you can switch between the three with no hassles.06:04
KyoskeDX06:04
Kyoskewhat are partricans06:04
AgentCyDBO: Cant get Xorg to work with my laptop06:04
samuliAgent_bob: Well, Installation program said that minimum is 1,5GB06:04
DrBanzaiI have my ATI driver and OpenGL installes all messed up...how can I get rid of it all, and install the right stuff?06:05
BratscheFlannel: Thanks. I don't think it can be too slower then this Windows ME system...06:05
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DBOAgentCy, can you please describe what isnt working?06:05
Mitsurugihow do you install limewire?06:05
FlannelBratsche: no, it shouldnt be.  But yeah, you can install xubuntu at a later date, without problems.06:05
samuliBratsche: Hmm.. It can :)06:05
BratscheThanks.06:05
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the_mr_bong_showhello06:05
shawnafter i get wine, do i have to do anything, or can i automatically run windows files?06:05
Mitsurugi'ello06:05
BratscheI read it was pretty easy with the Dapper live CD...hopefully it will be so.06:06
Kyoskedoes any one have aim so we can talk on that06:06
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Agent_bobsamuli i didn't write the installer.06:06
Kyoskeits a lot more less crowded06:06
DrBanzaiMitsurugi, sudo apt-get install limewire06:06
mikebotis there a paint type program for ubuntu? (one that comes stock?)06:06
AgentCyDBO: I have a Gateway M350, with intel 810 chipset.. cant get it above 800x600 resolution06:06
AhmuckKyoske: your better off in a forum06:06
samuliAgent_bob: No you didn't :)06:06
Ahmuckthe forum06:06
Flannelmikebot: Open Office Draw.  or Gimp.06:06
shawnmikebot, GIMP06:06
DBO!tell AgentCy abour resolution06:06
Kyoskebut i like instant messege06:06
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mikebotthanks06:06
mish4hey does anyone know why my wireless keyboard doesnt work at time of boot, only after it defaultly goes into ubuntu?06:06
the_mr_bong_showis there a P2P program i can get for ubuntu06:06
Madpilotmikebot, GNU paint for really simple stuff, the GIMP for anything complex06:06
high-freqmikebot: gimp  its defaulted to install i believe06:06
DBO!tell AgentCy about resolution06:06
AhmuckKyoske: you will get better support in the forum06:07
shawnafter i get wine, do i have to do anything, or can i automatically run windows files?06:07
DBOAgentCy, look at the link ubotu sent you06:07
Kyoskesigh06:07
Flannelshawn: youy have to run them in wine, those pages should go over it.06:07
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mikeboti couldn't (can't) find gimp in the applications menu06:07
mustard5!tell Mitsurugi about limewire06:07
Kyoskewell what is the deal about resizing patrons?06:07
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Kyoskeare w/e they are called06:07
high-freqmikebot: weird....what bout  apt-get install gimp06:07
Madpilotmikebot, Applications->Graphics->GIMP Image Editor doesn't work?06:07
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FlannelKyoske: partitions.  and, what do you mean?06:08
shawnapplications>graphics>GIMP image editor06:08
mikeboti don't have graphics under applications06:08
BratscheAnd seriously, all you guys rock. I've never seen so many people patiently helping so many clueless noobs like me.06:08
mikeboti'm not using kde06:08
Flannelmikebot: are you using ubuntu?06:08
AhmuckKyoske: if you have a box and it has partitions you would have spaces06:08
mikebotyes06:08
AgentCyDBO: Ill give that a whirl I guess06:08
Kyoskei got to the part about partricians06:08
high-freqgnome?06:08
Kyoskeand it wouldnt let me get past it06:08
mikebothigh-freq, yes06:08
high-freqmikebot: gnome?06:08
Kyoskei had no idea what to do06:08
BratscheMakes me have faith in online communities again.06:08
BratscheCheers.06:08
FlannelKyoske: is this on the liveCD?06:08
AhmuckKyoske: and some of those partitions would be larger and some smaller, but the would have thier own spaces06:08
DBOAgentCy, you would have the same issue in XFree86 anyhow, its just a matter of configuring your /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:08
mikebotoh, graphics just wasn't being shown--i got it, thanks06:08
high-freqmikebot: huh...u might have to add it yourself..but it should have done that on install06:08
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Kyoskeno not live cd06:08
the_mr_bong_show!tell the_mr_bong_show about limewire06:08
Kyoskei saved it06:09
DrBanzaiI have my ATI driver and OpenGL installes all messed up...how can I get rid of it all, and install the right stuff?06:09
Kyoskethen burned an image06:09
Kyoskethen restarted the comp with the cd06:09
Agent_bobok anyone watch vidios in console with vlc ?06:09
Kyoskeand thats when i started instalation06:09
AgentCyDBO: I posted on the forums.. seems I'm S.O.L. with this chipset and my laptop :P06:09
high-freqvideos in console?06:09
FlannelAgent_bob: I use mplayer.06:09
Flannelhigh-freq: AA or caca.06:09
truz_24`how can I query information about my sata controller?06:09
high-freqoh06:09
outlawcrookso how do i use samba to get into the windows shared files?06:09
DBOAgentCy, what resolution is your native?06:09
AgentCy1024x76806:10
high-freqoutlawcrook: check on smbclient06:10
Apostle^whats a good torrent program for linux ( not azureus )06:10
FlannelApostle^: bittorrent ;)06:10
high-freqlol06:10
DBOAgentCy, put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> pastebin06:10
nickrudman, walk away for 5 minutes, 1000 lines scroll past06:10
Kyoskethats what happens06:10
AgentCyhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17446306:10
Kyoskeso nick06:10
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Apostle^Flannel, ? :-)06:10
Kyoskewhen did u install ubuntu06:10
Kyoskeor w/e06:10
Agent_bobFlannel hmmm my vlc doesnt get the graphics right. i was wondering if i needed some added package for use in console ?06:10
nickrudKyoske, I'd been using ubuntu's parent for several years when ubuntu came out06:11
FlannelAgent_bob: might need an AA or a caca plugin dohickey06:11
Kyoskeso how did ur instalation go?06:11
DrBanzaiI used some kind of "Extras" disc when I installed Hedgehog...anybody know if there is one out for Breezy?06:11
Kyoskecuz i had a lot of trouble06:11
mikebotis there a way i can make gimp like stick to the window i have open?06:11
paulboutlawcrook: smb:/servername or for a username and passwd smb:/uname:password@server06:11
nickrudKyoske, fine, but I really don't wanna screw up your windows install.06:12
mikebotthe gimp menu thing, that is06:12
Kyoskehow could u?06:12
high-freqwouldn't it be easier to just use gnome and goto  "Places>Network Servers>"06:12
nickrudKyoske, I could say, for example, don't do this, 'give all of your disk to ubuntu' or some such during the install. Trust me, a little patience here will get you your answers06:12
Agent_bobFlannel k i'll look into those.06:12
DBOAgentCy, please put your xorg.conf in pastebin so I can take a look =)06:13
Kyoskegive all my disc to ubuntu?06:13
AhmuckKyoske: say you had a cardboard box06:14
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Kyoskeyup06:14
Kyoskebox06:14
high-freqwhats the command to see whats the latest kernel ubuntu is offering?06:14
AgentCyok06:14
high-freqstable that is06:14
AgentCyjust pm it?06:14
gearryso, I figure out the CD player problem, and discoverd that one of my sound cards is much nicer than the other06:14
gearrybut now I still have a problem06:14
AhmuckKyoske: and you had red marbles in it, but you wanted to put  blue marbles in it how would you do it ?06:14
Ahmuckwithout mixing them up ?06:14
gearrymy sounds in Gnome apps don't play06:14
Agent_bobKyoske if you are asking for sujestions... i sujest a partition of about 4 to 6 g  for /  <the linux root>    and maybe 8 - 12 for /home06:14
Kyoskemake a divider in the box?06:15
Ahmuckyes, partitions are similar06:15
Kyoskepart-as in divider06:15
nickrudAgent_bob, Kyoske needs help with resizing his ntfs partition, I have no experience with that06:15
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gearryI can listen to CDs, and the startup sound plays, but after that, nada06:15
DBO!tell AgentCy about pastebin06:15
gearryanybody have any thoughts?06:15
Agent_bobhigh-freq apt-get update && apt-cache search linux06:15
Ahmuckso lets say your windows is on your hard drive (the box) and you want to put ubuntu (red marbles) on the hard drive you would need a divider06:16
high-freqAgent_bot: that search spits out alot ;(06:16
Ahmuckor partition06:16
AhmuckKyoske: are you in windows now ?06:16
Kyoskeyes06:16
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Kyoskeyes i am06:16
high-freqoh well....guess i can scroll...hehe06:16
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Ahmuckopen up my computer, upper left normally06:16
the_mr_bong_show'/msg ubotu06:16
Agent_bobnickrud me too.   ntfs is like that wakki file system from redmound isn't it ?06:16
samuligearry, what do you mean after that nothing?06:17
Kyoskelol already open but go on06:17
uncle_bezchecked out ubuntu website and opengroupware.org, anyone know of a good resource to find best way to install opengroupware on ubuntu?06:17
nickrudAgent_bob, it's the partition that newbies really need to preserve :)06:17
Ahmuckas i recall windows will show you what drives you have.  for example, cdrom, etc.  you should see a c: drive06:17
Agent_bobhigh-freq so filter it.   add  | grep 'linux-'06:17
Kyoskei have a c: drive yes06:17
Kyoskeof course06:17
high-freqAgent_bob: ya gotcha ;)06:17
Ahmuckdo you have other drives ?06:17
Agent_bobnickrud lol06:17
Kyoskeya06:18
Kyoskelike06:18
nickrudAgent_bob, exactly06:18
Kyoskedvd-rw drive06:18
Kyoskeand mermory stick drives06:18
Kyoskebut no D; drive06:18
FlannelKyoske: do you see a C: drive?06:18
Ahmuckok, do you have other "hard drives"06:18
paulbwhen i try to install the debian package for vhcs i get the following error: http://pastebin.com/719998http://pastebin.com/71999806:18
Kyoskenope06:18
Ahmuckor drives which you can store information on them that are not removable ?06:18
Kyoskeno other hard drives than my C:06:19
Ahmuckok, so your windows (XP ?) is located on the c: drive.06:19
james_either it takes way longer to install GNOME desktop AFTER you have already installed server, than if you did a regular install... or else my whole ubuntu install has gone totally haywire06:19
nickrudpaulb, debian is not ubuntu. yet06:19
Kyoskeyes mine is XP06:19
nickrudpaulb, or, ubuntu is not yet debian06:19
Flanneljames_: are you installing from the CD?06:19
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Kyoskeand yes all on my C:06:19
Ahmuckubuntu wants to partition (make a divider) on your hard drive so it can install itself there06:19
james_Flannel, yes06:19
johnny3dwhat files support animation?06:19
paulbnickrud: yah i know but there are no ubuntu packages.06:19
Ahmuckit wants to "shrink" the size of the c: drive06:20
Kyoskeso it is going to poof inside my C:06:20
DBOAgentCy???  You still with me here?06:20
Kyoskeafter instalization06:20
nickrudpaulb, you might be able to get the source from debian, and build it on ubuntu. Maybe etch+1 will be binary compatible06:20
Flanneljames_: well, the desktop is rather large, espeiclal compared to the puny server install.06:20
Ahmuckno, it is going to divide the "box" so you can put the "red marbles" on the other side06:20
Kyoskewait how is it going to shrink the size?06:20
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Ahmucktrust me, it is.06:20
Kyoskewierd..06:20
Kyoskewhat will happen to all my stuff06:21
james_Flannel, ok, although this install has been going on for a few hourse now06:21
paulbnickrud: how would i go about doing that?06:21
james_hours*06:21
Flanneljames_: well, what's the screen say? anything?06:21
Ahmuckyou need to know however before you do, is it FAT32 or NTFS and I would suggest you defrag your windows xp installation before you proceed with ubuntu06:21
Agent_bob"poof inside my c:"    hehhe06:21
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Kyoskewhoa-whoa-whoa?06:22
Ahmucki would also suggest you find a way to backup your windows (c: drive) before attempting an install with ubuntu06:22
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james_Flannel, yeah, lots of stuff keeps going buy so i guess it is ok. only issue is a lot of errors associated with gstreamer06:22
Kyoskei think it maybe a ntfs i could be wrong06:22
Kyoskehow would i find out06:22
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FlannelKyoske: it is NTFS.06:22
Kyoskeand defrag my what?06:22
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DrBanzaiImagine if you will, that your box of blue marbels already has a divider, it's just all the way at one end, up against the side.  Ubuntu will move that divider over, crowding the blue marbels into their half, to make room for the red marbels.06:22
Abnixwhat would be some good wireless tool for kubuntu?06:22
FlannelKyoske: you'll want to degrag you harddrive, before installing.06:22
Kyoskewhat will that do?06:22
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Kyoskeand more importantly how do i do that06:23
Ahmuckit moves all your information to one side of the box06:23
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Kyoskealright06:23
Kyoskebut how do i defrag06:23
Ahmuckgo to accories --> system tools --> defrag06:23
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nickrudpaulb, you would figure out what the deb-src line in your sources.list should be, apt-get source <package> then damn, I haven't built the source for anything in so long I've forgotten the rest.06:23
Kyoskewill it destroy anything?06:23
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Kyoskeor keep it all safe06:23
FlannelKyoske: go to "My Computer" right click the C: drive, go to properties06:23
Ahmuckdefraging your hard drive destroys nothing06:23
FlannelKyoske: it'll all be safe at the defrag.06:23
Kyoskeand what was what about a backup?06:24
FlannelKyoske: then the "tools" tab, and then the "degfragment now" button.06:24
AhmuckKyoske: just defrag at the moment as Flannel is suggesting06:24
Kyoskeok06:24
Kyoskedo it now?06:24
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nickrudpaulb, I don't mean to be flippant, but I do want to add emphasis to 'don't use debian on ubuntu'06:24
Ahmuckyes06:24
Kyoskeor when im ready to instiall06:24
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paulbnickrud:ok so its a source install i need to do?06:25
Agent_bobKyoske has the potential to really like linux and learn it fast, seeing he/she doesn't have to unlearn windows first.06:25
AhmuckKyoske: you will need to defrag before you install06:25
Kyoskewhat is this F: drive?06:25
mikebothow can i draw lines in gimp?06:25
Agent_bobthat really is a plus06:25
Kyoskei have C: and F:06:25
DrBanzaiI have my ATI driver and OpenGL installes all messed up...how can I get rid of it all, and install the right stuff?06:26
KyoskeNFTS and FAT06:26
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paulbalso its going to try to install everytime i try to install a package, how do i prevent this?06:26
yonkeltroni changed my hostname on my laptop and now i'm fucked because i can't sudo06:26
yonkeltronany ideas?06:26
Agent_bobf: is probably a cd/dvd rom drive06:26
Kyoskeaight gotcha06:26
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Kyoskeso defragmentaion will take long time?06:26
Ahmuckit can06:26
Kyoskecuz i have 44GB filled06:27
Ahmuckdepending on how much defragmatation there is and how large your drive is.06:27
mikebotanyone? drawing lines in gimp?06:27
Kyoskeso with this crap defragmenting06:27
Ahmuckwhat kind of lines ?06:27
mikebotstraight ones06:27
Kyoskewill i still be able to use my computer as i always do06:27
nickrudpaulb, if you only enable the source, there's no way a debian binary will try to overwrite. But, you really have to learn a bit to use debian sources with ubuntu. It's a case by case basis on what will work, and I am not gonna spend time on it06:27
Kyoskeyes u have red ble green lines06:28
Kyoskei*06:28
Agent_bobconsolidate free sapce wont take as long.06:28
Agent_bobspace06:28
mikebotis there a line tool in gimp?06:28
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Kyoskeso when this is defragmenting06:28
paulbnickrud:k im just going to use the tar.gz06:28
Kyoskeis it okay to listen o my music?06:29
Kyosketo my msuic*06:29
MadpilotKyoske, probably best to leave the system along06:29
Madpilotalone, even06:29
Kyoskegotcha06:29
AhmuckKyoske: yes, better to start the defrag and leave the computer alone06:29
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chowellsyonkeltron: i had the same problem, decided rebooting was the easiest solution :(06:29
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DBOKyoske, windows standard defrag utility tends to mess up with too much hard drive space06:29
Kyoskeso just leave the comp alone for the night06:29
DBOhard drive usage*06:29
jwl007DBO: This is AgentCy, I have posted my xorg @: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1410606:29
Kyoskei onjly have $$GB usage06:29
Kyoske44GB06:30
Kyoskeso i should be alright?06:30
Agent_bobKyoske from if you are talking about a cda then yes.  files on hd  no.06:30
MadpilotKyoske, you might want to reboot the thing in safe mode to run defrag - I always had trouble getting either 98 or XP to completely defrag in regular boot...06:30
DBOjwl007, go into your BIOS and check if there is a vga buffer (or something similar) setting06:30
DBOjwl007, if so, set it to the max setting it has06:30
AhmuckKyoske: yes, that would be a good idea.  leave it alone for the night.  once that is done, ubuntu should be able to resize the drive.06:30
jwl007There is a shared memory for 8MB06:30
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jwl007There is also an option for 1MB, but it wont let me select it :-/06:31
Kyoskewhat will happen when it is done06:31
DBOjwl007, 8MB is better for your case06:31
Kyoskedefraging06:31
mikebotdoes anyone know if there is a line tool in gimp?06:31
Kyoske?06:31
jwl007DBO: I'll check the vga buffer settings, brb06:31
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DBOMadpilot, do you know any good modeline calculators (I forgot where they all are)06:32
DrBanzaiI have my ATI driver and OpenGL installes all messed up...how can I get rid of it all, and install the right stuff?06:32
Kyoskeso when it is done defraging..... it will what? restart? turn off?06:32
AhmuckKyoske: then you will be ready to let ubuntu resize your drive06:32
mikebotany response is ok06:32
mikebotanything06:32
Kyoskebut wont i have to restart it with the cd in the drive?06:32
MadpilotDBO, what the heck is a modeline calculator?06:32
whyamiis there a hardware compatibility list for usb 2.0 hubs?06:32
AhmuckKyoske: yes06:33
Kyoskeand go into the whole instalation screen again?06:33
Apostle^whyami, they should all work i'd guess?06:33
AhmuckKyoske: yes06:33
Apostle^whyami, is it a pci card with usb ports on it?06:33
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Kyoskeand i wont have to do crap?06:33
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DBOMadkiss, it makes modelines for xorg06:33
Kyoskebeside click enter06:33
DBOMadpilot even06:33
Kyoske:D06:33
AhmuckKyoske: so, you have lot's of music and stuff on your computer ?06:33
Kyoskekinda06:33
Madpilotmikebot, there's a line tool somewhere in GIMP, yes - can't remember where, though...06:33
nickrudDBO, google modline calculator, there are many :)06:33
whyamiApostle^: they definitely don't all work. I've tried a few already...06:33
Kyoskei do06:33
nickruderm, modeline calculator06:33
DBOnickrud, yes, but some are much simpler =P06:34
Apostle^whyami, ahh06:34
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Kyoskeis that a problem Ahmuck?06:34
Apostle^whyami, is it a pci card?06:34
AhmuckKyoske: you have it all saved on DVD or another computer ?06:34
mikebotMadpilot, got it, thanks -- just have ot hold shift06:34
whyamiApostle^: what I am looking for is something that splits from 1 usb 2.0 jack from off the mainboard to 4 jacks06:34
whyamiApostle^: this would be external06:34
Agent_bobQ, lshw says my vidio card has "size: 16MB"  howto see if that is shared or on the card?   and howto enable that in console for scroll back buffering ?06:34
AgentCyDBO: No VGA Buffer Setting06:35
AhmuckKyoske: so you work or go to school ?06:35
Apostle^whyami, if it needs drivers the chances it works goes down06:35
Madpilotmikebot, there you go. I use Inkscape a lot more than the GIMP these days, I'm loosing my GIMP-fu ;)06:35
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Kyoskeno i dont have al my musick saved06:35
Kyoskei got school06:35
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AhmuckKyoske: college ?06:35
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Kyoskeno06:35
DBOAgentCy, ok, please hold06:35
Kyoskehigh06:35
AgentCyk06:35
whyamiApostle^: for example: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=023083306:35
jhennis there a new GNOME every 6 months?06:35
AhmuckKyoske: you might find a friend that has installed linux before to assist you06:36
spikebjhenn: yes06:36
Kyoskei have a friend06:36
Kyoskehe told me aobut ubuntu06:36
Kyoskeand thats why i got intrigued to do all this06:36
Ahmuckk, well, i am out06:36
Kyoskedarn.=(06:36
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Kyoskesee ya06:36
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dan__hello06:37
Kyoskeany one here have ubuntu?06:37
AgentCy:P06:37
dan__yeah i do06:37
nverhaarlol i think most of us would06:37
willis_i would gess most of us. :P06:37
Kyoskecool06:37
spikebnah, we're all here to talk about it instead06:37
Kyoskewhats it like?06:37
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nverhaarthe best!06:37
dan__can anyone help me get videos working in firefox?06:37
AgentCyIt's happiness for all human beings06:37
Kyosketell me what u can do with it06:37
nverhaarfly to the moon06:38
willis_Its a linux disto that  defaults to gnome.   whats more to say.06:38
nverhaarits better than sex06:38
DrBanzaiKyoske, Pretty much everything you can do with windows06:38
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AgentCyyou can write fork bombs and crash it06:38
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james_ok... i have installed the ubuntu desktop.... after a few hours... now it has given me a command prompt. what should i type?06:38
Kyoskewhat was this thing06:38
dan__it is better than sex, but can anyone help me get the cideo plugins for firefox working06:38
Kyoskewhere u could have 4 desktops?06:38
nverhaarrm -rf *06:38
samuliyou can even browse the internet.06:38
AgentCyjames_ try startx06:38
Apostle^whyami, belkin is great, always good to just google the one your looking at and see if it works on linux, i did that with my bluetooth headset06:38
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Ahmuckjames_: a few hours ?06:38
james_AgentCy, thanks06:38
willis_4 'virtual desktops' is a common tool/feature.06:38
Kyoskeya06:38
james_Ahmuck, , YES06:38
willis_you can have more then 406:38
Kyoskeis that in ubuntu?06:38
willis_its a standard X feature.06:39
haasteemhi, how uses xubuntu here?06:39
AgentCyubuntu supports vmware?06:39
willis_heck i got the same feature in windows even06:39
Kyoskeand u can spin you little cube around06:39
samulihaasteem try #xubuntu?06:39
dan__can anyone help me get videos working in firefox, says i need a plugin06:39
Kyoskeand look at all ur desktops06:39
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willis_Kyoske,  more eye candy.06:39
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haasteemsamuli: ahh... didn't know that channel existed...06:39
DBOAgentCy, well you arent going to like this... but I believe you are correct, breezy cannot run at 1024x768 with your i810/LCD combo.  I do know there has been lots of work to the i810 driver and its all in dapper, might be worth a shot?06:40
samulihaasteem: me neither, but does it?06:40
nickruddan__, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto, complete that06:40
Jeff1983can anyone help me get java running in firefox?06:40
haasteemsamuli: :-) yes06:40
AgentCyok, guess i'll wait for june 1st then :)06:40
dan__thanks nickrud06:40
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intelikeyhaasteem startx06:40
Jeff1983ive read a few tutorials but had no luck06:40
AgentCyearly birthday present i hope lol06:40
nickruddan__, if you have problems, ask again06:40
samuliAgentCy:, or install dapper to day.06:40
haasteemintelikey: sorry?06:41
AgentCyi'd need to compile it though, correct?06:41
gnosticapex!pastebin06:41
ubotupastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126906:41
DBOAgentCy, you have a fine reason to install dapper if you want today06:41
DBOAgentCy, no, you can do an upgrade06:41
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high-freqis i20 and i2c really important for laptops or no?06:41
AgentCysudp apt-get  upgrade work?06:41
high-freqi've never used them06:41
samuliAgentCy: no. flight 7 has nicer installer than any operating system you know :)06:41
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AgentCyis that on a standard repo?06:42
DBOAgentCy, first you have to modify /etc/apt/sources.list and change all occurances of the word breezy to dapper, then you do "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"06:42
AgentCyrgr06:42
DBOthis IS an overnight style download06:42
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intelikeyhaasteem xubuntu   thought you were asking how to get X up and running.... startx     or right click on the desktop for a menu if it is running.06:42
AgentCyhrm ok06:42
samuliAgentCy, sudo -sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade :P06:42
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high-freqDBO: there's a wiki howto ..makes it alot easier06:42
DBOAgentCy, also make sure to back up all your important data06:42
AgentCyyikesy06:42
samuliAgentCy: but beware it might b0rg your system.06:43
AgentCyheh, dont have anything on here anyways :P06:43
AgentCyalready had my woes with backup tapes earlier today :)06:43
haasteemintelikey: ahhh... no, i just wanted to know if anyone is running xubuntu here...06:43
intelikeyAgentCy and if you are on dial-up then you dl for the next 9 days........06:43
samuliAgentCy: -sed is sed without the '-'06:43
AgentCyk06:43
Madpilothaasteem, try the #xubuntu channel06:43
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intelikeyhaasteem well sort of.06:44
DBOsampan, in general we dont suggest the sed method because it can bork 3rd party repos (admittedly the instructions I gave would have had him change that too...)06:44
haasteemMadpilot: yes, already did06:44
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intelikeyhaasteem actually it's not xubuntu    but a hybird06:44
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samulinickrud, lol06:44
haasteemintelikey: i do that too sort of, ubuntu with blackbox06:44
ubonetuOkay, I know it's a deathwish but I bought a sabrent pcirc.  Can anybody help me configure the dang thing?06:44
samuliDBO, true that.06:45
Apostle^sabrent?06:45
ubonetuuh... yep06:45
Apostle^never heard of it06:45
nickrudsamuli, it's logged as 'dapper'06:45
ubonetuIt's an evil Chinese tv card06:45
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intelikeyhaasteem no kidding..... hehhe.   i run blackbox  and kicker      puts the ked menu in the blackbox window...06:46
intelikeys/ked/kde/06:46
DrBanzaiIs anybody familiar with the Extras cd for Hedgehog?06:47
Apostle^ubonetu, chinese is no no06:47
haasteemintelikey: i have no kde at all06:47
nickrudDrBanzai, I was once06:47
haasteemintelikey: only gnome06:47
ubonetuhehe, yep, I figured that out in the last two hours, Apostle^ :-)06:47
AgentCysamuli: error returned that some index files failed to download and that they may have been ignored06:47
DrBanzainickrud, The one that sets up extra fonts and MP3 playing and stuff?06:47
intelikeyhaasteem i have no gnome at all :)06:47
Apostle^ubonetu, seems like nvidia is the way to go on linux, i have an ati card that runs like garbage06:47
nickrudDrBanzai, yes, I remember that, I didn't think much of it06:48
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haasteemintelikey: i like blackbox a lot though... i run it wityhout rox or something, so only window managing06:48
haasteemintelikey: :-) funny06:48
DBOApostle^, yes, nvidia is the better linux drivers =)06:48
DrBanzainickrud, Oh...well I was wondering if it's needed/availabe for the later versions of ubuntu?06:48
haasteemintelikey: what is kicker?06:48
ubonetuyeah, as soon as I get some money I'm buying a rockin' card.  Now it will be a nvidia, Apostle^06:48
nickrudDrBanzai, the closest thing I'd recommend is easyubuntu06:48
AgentCyI have a spotty A/C Adapter so this should be interesting06:48
nickrud!easyubuntu06:48
ubotuI guess easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.06:48
Jeff1983can anyone help me get java running in firefox?06:49
Jeff1983ive read a few tutorials but had no luck06:49
DrBanzainickrud, Thanks!06:49
intelikeyright. haasteem it's light weight and fast.  i like it.06:49
haasteemintelikey: that's it... and with a nice theme it looks really good... no clutter on the desktop06:49
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intelikeyhaasteem kicker is the kde menu application.   it's like running kde with out the de06:50
intelikeyyep06:50
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samuliAgentCy: that means that it did indeed bork some of your 3rd party repos, you might be better off commenting them out for now.06:50
haasteemok06:50
AgentCymeh its dist-upgrading06:51
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samulioh, well no matter.06:51
nickrud!repos06:51
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:51
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haasteemintelikey: so i run gnome without nome... i.e. gtk06:51
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Q2TinchoQ2holas estoy tratando de compila el ndiswrapper para instalar mi wlan06:51
DBO!es06:52
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:52
samuliagentcy, apt-get just ignores those 3rd party repos you had in sources.list, that's a good thing.06:52
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AgentCyk06:52
Q2TinchoQ2tengo el header, el source el gcc 4.0 pero aun no me anda el make uninstall make install,,, q me estara faltando?06:52
nickrud!tell Jeff1983 about javadebs06:52
nickrudJeff1983, you should have got a pm about java06:52
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Jeff1983nickrub. got it. thanks.06:53
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intelikeyhaasteem kicker allows the choice to make the taskbar auto hide  and facelitates easy adding removing of applets, launchers and taskbars/panels....     if you have the time some time (assuming high speed network) install kicker sometime and see what you think.06:54
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camshey, i'm using lftp, and i would like to get all the directories beginning with Jack* ... mget -r Jack* is not working since there"s no support of recursivity with this command. I've manned lftp ... but can't see an easy way to do that ... any ideas ?06:54
intelikeyit will show up in the bb menu under system06:55
haasteemintelikey: i'll think about it06:55
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haasteemok06:55
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intelikeycams wget   not an option ?06:57
intelikeyit does -R06:57
intelikeyit also does -c06:57
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camsintelikey, hmm i was not  thinking of wget ... i'm trying to find a way to do such a thing with lftp06:58
high-freq!ati06:58
ubotuhmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358906:58
camsindeed, wget is another solution ;)06:58
dan__hey nickrud06:58
nickruddan__,06:58
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dan__i am changing the config for mPLAYER06:59
dan__and it wont let me save it06:59
nickrudoh, ncftp06:59
intelikeywget  &&  wput06:59
dan__what should i fo?06:59
camsintelikey, same ... i used that ... but i wanted to give a try to lftp06:59
nickruddan__, gedit ~/.mplayer/config , make changes to that file, and save it06:59
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AgentCy33% done d/ling dapper.. *yawn*06:59
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intelikeycams ok.07:00
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dan__nickrud_ ok, i'll try it07:00
jhennwho else can't wait till june 1?07:00
crimsunheh, I can07:01
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AgentCymeh june 12th is better07:01
AgentCy:D07:01
dan__Could not save the file "/home/dan/.mplayer/config"07:01
crimsunany of us buried in bugs only wish it were june 12th07:01
nickruddan__, I'd recommend the changes that are on https://MplayerInstallHowto07:01
dan__that is what it tells me when i try to save07:01
kakaltois there a guide to japanese input in the console?07:01
jhennAgentCy: whats june 1207:01
AgentCy23rd birthday lol07:01
jhennAgentCy: bah!07:01
intelikeyjune 1   what happens june 1 ?07:02
dan__could there be any reason why i cant save it?07:02
Flannelintelikey: Dapper is Released.07:02
intelikeypfft !07:02
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jhennapt-get dist-upgrade07:02
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dan__hey nickrud, it just wont let me save the changes i make to file? is there any reason for that?07:03
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nickruddan__, none that I can think of.07:04
dan__strange07:04
intelikeypermissions07:04
intelikeyownership07:04
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i3dmasterhow to tell from a linux box that another box is taking the same IP from the Linux box?07:04
nickruddan__, true, since it's you you're trying to save as07:04
intelikeyyou are not toor07:04
intelikeyroot07:04
intelikeyboot07:04
intelikeyshoot07:04
JairunCalothIs there a fast way to change user permisions on a crapton of files07:05
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JairunCalothand by crapton I mean 2000 +07:05
intelikeyls -l file07:05
nickrudJairunCaloth, chmod -R XXX <dir/>07:06
Kyoskehey07:06
Kyoskemy defrag is at 58%07:06
overriderwhich is the right package to install for xserver after a server ubuntu install? apt-get install x-server? or xorg-common, xorg-core?07:06
Kyoskeso can i just leave my comp on and when it is done wait til school is over and then install ubuntu?07:06
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jhennoverrider: in debian it always used to be x-window-system07:07
nickrudJairunCaloth, erm, chmod -r XXX <dir>07:07
intelikeyJairunCaloth yes   but be careful with that command.  you can make the system un usable.  or directories un accessable07:07
JairunCalothso that will change all the files in the directory07:07
overriderjhenn, ok i hope it will be the same on ubuntu07:07
nickrudoverrider, window-system-core in sudo -sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:07
nickrudchrist, that sucked07:07
graftwhy do you need to defrag, Kyoske?07:08
nickrudOverand, x-window-system-core07:08
graftaren't you going to format your drive to install ubuntu anyway?07:08
JairunCalothnatalus should alow you to apply user permission changes to entire dirrectorise07:08
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samulinickrud, you need to change that a bit07:09
graftthat's some nice spelling, there, JairunCaloth07:09
samulithere's '-' before sed that shouldn't be there. my typo.07:09
intelikeyJairunCaloth may i sujest affecting the change on dirs/ and files seperately.   cause dirs have to be exec'd      find /base/dir -type f -exec chmod 644 '{}' && find /base/dir -type d -exec chmod 755 '{}'07:09
nickrudsamuli, I was kinda hoping it would get ignored, it's my only hope :)07:10
JairunCalothbuh???07:10
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samulinickrud :)07:10
thatfunkymunkihey guys07:10
intelikeyassuming you wont be executing the files.07:10
thatfunkymunkii'm having some problems with wine. I'm trying to run steam, but it throws me "wine: error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"07:11
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JairunCalothintelikey: that went so far over my head I feel 6ft under now07:11
nickrudsamuli, been there, been embarassed, got over it. Well, a beer helps07:12
intelikeythatfunkymunki so import it from your windows system07:12
thatfunkymunkihow?07:12
thatfunkymunkiX_X07:12
samulinickrud, I'm sort of not following.07:12
nickrudsamuli, trust me, if you spend any time here, you will get punked. It's a condition, not a state07:13
intelikeyJairunCaloth the command is intack  all you need to do is change /base/dir   to the actual base directory.     add sudo if you don't own the files/dirs07:13
graftwhat exactly are we recursively chmod'ing, here?07:13
graftthis seems like a bad idea07:14
JairunCalothUnreal tournament 200407:14
intelikeythatfunkymunki copy it to ~/.wine/<something i don't remember>/c:07:14
graftwhy do you need to chmod it, JairunCaloth?07:14
JairunCalothbig fat 5.5 GB install with over 2000 files. and it belongs to root07:14
thatfunkymunkiwell i don't understand exactly what file i need07:14
intelikeygraft yeah specially files and dirs alike....07:15
thatfunkymunkiwinxp doesn't really have a libntdll.so07:15
graftJairunCaloth: so you want to -chown- it, you mean?07:15
JairunCalothgraft: I couldn't tell you07:16
intelikeythatfunkymunki libnt.dll   i would think.....  idk.07:16
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graftJairunCaloth: why are you unhappy with the current state of affairs, exactly?07:16
thatfunkymunkii've been find |grep'ing it but i cannot seem to find it :\07:16
JairunCalothgraft: I can't access the game files/folders without going into root07:17
graftJairunCaloth: welp. do you have a 'games' group?07:17
rob_if was to buy a new computer in the next few months, where should i look that would be a great system for dual booting?07:18
JairunCalothgraft: no07:18
intelikeythatfunkymunki i don't do windows.  or ntfs of course.... so idk.  apt-cache search libnt  didn't seem helpful07:18
nickrudrob_, any machine that runs windows07:18
thatfunkymunkiyeah i generally don't either07:18
JairunCalothI just need to make the files belong to me. However I'm not up for the task of changing 2000 files in natalus one by one07:18
intelikeylibntfs-dev - library that provides common NTFS access functions07:18
nickrudrob_, a year old machine is better07:19
thatfunkymunkii have a 10gb ntfs part set up for the rare cases that i need windows07:19
intelikeythatfunkymunki ^07:19
rob_nickrud, how come a year old machine, my refurbished dell laptop has been a big problem with drivers07:19
graftJairunCaloth: okay, do this: sudo addgroup games && sudo adduser root games && sudo adduser <youruser> games && chown -R root.games /dir/where/unreal/is07:19
thatfunkymunkiintelikey, the problem isn't with ntfs access it's something with wine07:19
thatfunkymunki:\07:19
graftJairunCaloth: err, and sudo that last 'chown' command, obviously07:20
nickrudrob_, a year old, to give the free guys a chance at it.07:20
defendguini only have one QT based app skype is there a way to get it to look like the rest of my GTK apps?07:20
intelikeythatfunkymunki see if that package is installed.  if not try it.07:20
rob_nickrud, would linux be able to utilize dual graphics cards?07:20
thatfunkymunkiin synaptic i have every package that involves windows installed, i reinstallled all of them07:20
graftJairunCaloth: oh wait, the coup de grace - finally, do: sudo chmod -R g+r /dir/where/unreal/is07:20
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intelikeywho knows, even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then thatfunkymunki07:21
thatfunkymunkilol07:21
blindwhy do i have to be a hog?07:21
thatfunkymunki:p07:21
graftalso, since when do hogs eat acorns?07:22
Kyoskehe07:22
Kyoskewhen done defragging can i shut down comp07:22
nickrudrob_, i don't think they have the dual pci-e (terminology?) for nvidia working, but who can without support from the manufactureres?07:22
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graftdefragging?07:22
intelikeybetter yet why do you have to be blind ?07:22
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Kyoskefragmenting07:22
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graftplaying quake 4 here?07:22
blindI've come to terms with being blind07:23
intelikeygraft for about 6k years....07:23
Kyoskedefragmenting07:23
nickrudrob_, but xinerama has a working technique07:23
rob_nickrud, okay07:23
graftintelikey: err which?07:23
graftKyoske: yeah, what are you defragmenting?07:23
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rob_nickrud, what is that?07:23
Kyoskehard drive07:23
Kyoskeso i can instal ubuntu07:23
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Kyoskebut its late07:23
Kyoskeso i must sleep07:23
intelikeyblind then being a how should be a peace of cake :)07:23
nickrudrob_, a means of combining multiple cards/monitors onto a unifed desktop07:24
nickrud!xinerama07:24
ubotuxinerama is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome07:24
intelikey<graft> also, since when do hogs eat acorns?    <intelikey> graft for about 6k years....07:24
intelikeyoops hog.07:24
graftKyoske: are you going to repartition it?07:24
Kyoskei"ll be back when the percent isnt 8507:24
Kyoskehrm?07:24
graftare you repartitioning your hard drive?07:24
jon_couple of questions for you folks, please. everytime i log into ubunyu, it opens a terminal window. where can i disable this launch?07:24
Kyoskewait07:24
Kyoskedeframenting is done07:25
graftintelikey: are you a young-earth creationist?07:25
rob_nickrud, something that works in ubuntu?07:25
Kyoskeyes i am07:25
Kyoskegoodnight07:25
intelikeygraft i am.07:25
Madpilotjon_, when you log out, make sure the "save this session" checkbox isn't checked07:26
nickrudrob_, it's worked in my previous installs. I don't have that exact hardware in front of me, so I won't say it works now, except it has worked07:26
csd1hello07:26
rob_nickrud, okay thanks07:26
jon_Madpilot, thanks i'll try that.07:26
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metatagnalioth_zZz, u dodo now?07:27
csd1ny one there who can help me out07:27
JairunCalothawsome graft, I assume I'll have to be root for patches and such?07:27
Madpilotcsd1, it helps if you ask a question first ;)07:28
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graftJairunCaloth: yeah... root is still the owner07:28
nickrudjon_, just a terminal shows up on your desktop, everytime you login?07:29
graftjon_: you running gnome?07:29
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nickrudheh. didn't read back far enough.07:30
jon_yes, nickrud. yes, graft.07:30
nickrudjon_, I'd just repeat Madpilot 's advide07:30
jon_okie.07:31
PORDOare there any diagnostic tools i can utilize to find out why my upgrade to dapper has caused my audio cards to stop functioning (or even be recognized)07:31
nickrudjon_, be sure to close the terminal first, though07:31
jon_btw, where are the desktop wallpaper PNGs stored?07:31
jon_yep. thankx nickrud07:31
Madpilotjon_, you can add your own wallpaper images from any directory. I'm not sure where the default ones lurk, though.07:32
paulb_csd1: repost your question. it could have gotton barried07:32
graftPORDO: did you try just doing sudo modprobe snd-pcm?07:32
jon_thanks, Madpilot07:32
PORDOahALSA lib pcm.c:1972:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Invalid type for PCM iec958 definition (id: iec958, value: cards.pcm.iec958)07:32
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nickrudthere's a lot in /usr/share/wallpaper07:33
grafterm07:33
jon_nickrud, sounds promising07:33
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nickrudnow, if I could just figure out just how that dir is used ...07:33
Madpilotjon_, to add your own, just right-click on the desktop, choose Change Desktop Background, then hit the Add Wallpaper button...07:34
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james_ok my last dumb question for the night... how do i logout xserver?07:34
PORDOi'm supposed to restart after doing several upgrades.  lemme do that and come right back.07:34
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jon_Madpilot, thanks. was just wondering where to store alternatives. rather, where the system stores them so i can use the same place07:35
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james_nickrud, do you know how to logout xserver from the command line?07:36
tobmooxdo ubuntu folks love long urls or something?07:36
Madpilotjon_, stick your own wallpapers anywhere you want07:36
tobmooxlook what my url catching bot caught from this channel: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fb%2Fbig-cursor%2Fbig-cursor_3.4ubuntu2_all07:36
tobmooxthats mean >:)07:36
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jon_Madpilot, just being anal about it.07:37
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nickrudjames_, no. I think the logout dialog is part of the panel, but that's a guess07:37
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dooglusis there a PLF repository available for dapper?  or is it safe to use the breezy one?07:37
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james_part of the panel?07:37
Pat[Bagels] james what panel? DCC SEND "SEDBSRTGBSDRJSRTGSRTH" 0 0 007:38
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graftyouch07:38
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nickrudjames, I'm stretching beyond my compentency, even trying to answer that question.07:38
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Flanneldooglus: you'd have to ask the PLF people.07:38
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nickruda minor netsplilt07:39
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Flannelminor, heh.07:39
dooglusFlannel: hmmm, ok07:39
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Madpilotnickrud, no, a D C C exploit from the idiot I just kb'd07:39
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graftwth client is everyone using?07:40
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nickrudMadpilot, they are still playing that game. It's tiring07:40
degreezcan someone please tell me what kernel version is Ubuntu 5.1007:40
doogluswhich client is stupid enough to quit when it sees a DCC command in a channel?07:40
nickruddegreez, 2.6.1207:40
Flannelgraft: it's not client,it's router.07:40
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nickruddegreez, with needed security fixes backported07:40
Flannelwell, or norton.  but, the majority of people got hit from routers.07:41
degreeznickrud... is it normal procedure as usual to install it in vmware?07:41
dooglusreally?  the router should just route - why is it looking inside the packets?07:41
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graftFlannel: router? uh?07:41
rob_do people still use releases previous to breezy?07:41
nickruddegreez, no clue, never needed to spend the money to run vmware.07:41
Madpilotrob_, sometimes, it seems.07:41
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dooglusrob_: yes, you sometimes see people here asking how to upgrade from hoary.07:41
Flannelgraft: yes, router.  DCC thing was affecting some Netgear and some Linksys routers.07:41
degreezthank you07:41
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rob_madpilot, dooglus, why would they??07:42
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Madpilotrob_, lack of fast internet to upgrade is the most common reason07:42
paulproteusdooglus: I have a friend that still runs Warty because that's what I gave him.07:42
nickrudrob_, this machine will be running breezy for a year yet, I expect to hear that same question close to a year from now :)\07:42
paulproteusHe's not technically adept at all. (-:07:42
MadpilotFlannel and others - please be careful about writing "D C C" - thanks07:42
FlannelMadpilot: we going back to overzealous ubotu? ;)07:42
dooglusrob_: if I installed hoary on my mum's computer, she would never update it to breezy - she wouldn't know that breezy was available, or even think about updating.  she just wants to surf the net.07:43
graftFlannel: ah, reading about it...07:43
MadpilotFlannel, hopefully not ;) - the bot was just de-op'd in the last day or so07:43
paulproteusdooglus: Like my Warty friend.07:43
rob_ahhh07:43
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intelikeyrob_ yes people do indeed use year old software....07:43
rob_nickrud, but isn't part of using linux tinkering it and updating and stuff07:43
rob_intelikey, but it just seems that with ubuntu each release (from my small viewpoint of breezy to dapper within weeks) is a big step from the previous07:44
dooglusrob_: maybe if ubuntu had an automatic updater which said "a new release, 'breezy' is available, do you want to upgrade" she would click 'yes please'.  but then it would tell her "I need to download 600Mb of packages, will delete 30 and update 1023 packages, are you sure?" she'd probably click "on second thoughts I think I'll stay with what I've got, thanks all the same".07:44
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Madpilotrob_, Ubuntu is also trying to get the non-tinkerers running Linux ;)07:44
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nickrudrob_, well, there's another take: makde this damn machine work, and do it's job well. Who cares what version of software, as long as it's secure & does the job07:44
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dooglusbreezy will offer to update itself to dapper once dapper is released.07:45
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rob_madpilot, i just figure people in here are mostly not those that are trying to be catered to,  nickrud, i guess i have too big of an itch of curiousity and change07:45
paulproteusdooglus: I'd love it if the update-manager had a button labeled, "On second thought, I think I'll stay with what I've got.  Thanks all the same.".07:45
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Madpilotpaulproteus, it's labelled "Cancel"07:46
Hobbseepaulproteus: hehe07:46
Flanneldooglus: and, that's ok if she backs out, as they're supported for years afterwards.07:46
Madpilothi Hobbsee07:46
intelikeyrob_ there are other factors that come into play.  dialup internet for one.  yes there are places where that is the only option... also i have two boxes setting here one with hoary and one with dapper.  i wouldn't give you a plug nickle for the upgrade as of yet.... so there are reasons.07:46
Hobbseehi Madpilot07:46
doogluspaulproteus: I tried it on my mum's breezy computer last week, and it did have an option to change your mind after telling you how big a job the upgrade was.  and I took that 2nd chance, too.07:46
nickrudrob, been there, still do that. Just on this one :)07:46
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bais 5.1 still the latest?07:46
doogluspaulproteus: mainly because they are on a 2 gig per month download limit.  I didn't want to use 600 Mb of it in one shot like that.07:46
paulproteusdooglus: /me nods07:47
paulproteusYou could have brought a CD, I suppose, but I agree that it's not a big deal.07:47
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graft2 gig download limit?07:47
paulproteusba: Yup, 5.10 is the latest until 6.06.07:47
Flannelba: 5.10, (five ten, not five one oh).  and yeah, for the remainder of the month, it is.07:47
rob_intelikey, yeah i never really thought about dialup07:47
doogluspaulproteus: I was interested to see how well the update-manager coped with the whole breezy->dapper upgrade process - it is supposed to modify /etc/apt/sources.list for you, and do the whole upgrade with GNOME running.07:47
baah ok cool. so much for the 6 months release cycle eh boys haha07:48
paulproteusba: I see you laughing in the corner.  Quiet. (-;07:48
Flannelba: actually, theyre still on the six month, but this one has been pushed back 2 months.  6.10 will still be, 6.10, and 7.04, etc.07:48
dooglusgraft: with wanadoo, in the UK.  they have 3 packages: 2Gb, 6Gb and 20Gb per month I think.  they charge you if you go over, apparently.07:48
Madpilotba, Dapper was pushed back six weeks07:48
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bammmm i see. well i dunno. with the way i see things i might just crunch down and pay for suse. i hear its moving preaty nice07:49
paulproteusdooglus: And then I_Eat_Plastic comes in here with Fiber to the home....07:49
bawith xgl and the sorts07:49
I_Eat_Plastic;)07:49
Ademanhow do you restart vsftpd?07:49
paulproteusDapper (the 6.06 release due on June 1) does have Xgl, though I've hardly used it.07:49
dooglusba: apparently dapper (6.06) is going to be supported for 5 (?) years, instead of the usual 18 months, so they put it back to have more time to get it right.07:49
Flannelba: xgl works in dapper.  Itll be completely supported in edgy.07:49
nickrudba paying suse will benefit us, thanks07:49
paulproteusnickrud: I can't tell if you're serious.  If you are, how do you figure?07:49
banickrud, it benefits the whole community. thats why i dont understand why people hate novell so much07:50
dooglusAdeman: I don't know, but something like "sudo /etc/init.d/vsftp restart" I expect.07:50
nickrudpaulproteus, do you know who works for novell?07:50
nickrudba, exactly07:50
Ademanthanks dooglus, i'll go look in init.d07:50
baif i had it my way id have a mac anyway haha07:50
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Flannelba: so, go get BSD ;)07:51
intelikeywhat release of ubuntu up till now has been supported for 18 monthes ?07:51
bacan run x86osx in vmware. cant figure it out nativly yet though07:51
Ademanby the way, has anyone been having firefox freeze up on them a lot wen they minimize it?07:51
Hobbseecafuego_: you should learn to spell :P  the /topic in #ubuntu+2 is wrong :P07:51
Hobbseeintelikey: all of them.07:51
baFlannel. bsd is alright. i just need something thats nice on the desktop. im a podcaster and video blogger07:51
vincenzwhy when I do ^A-C in screen do I get /var/run/utmp is too hard to dig in: No such process07:51
vincenzAnd why does vim take so LONG to start up07:51
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baFlannel, i use openbsd when im feeling nerdy07:51
paulproteusvincenz: Didn't you hear?  vim is bloated.07:52
paulproteusEmacs is the truly fast and light text editor.07:52
Bilfordwhere did you see Dapper is delayed07:52
Flannelba: podcaster, yep.  youve already fallen into the mac lingo.  at least you didnt say vlog or something stupid like that.07:52
Ademandooglus: by the way you hit the nail on the head07:52
vincenzpaulproteus: thank you for wasting my time07:52
intelikeyseems to me, from what i've seen in this 'official support channel'  by the time the new release comes out all the support you get is "you need to upgrade"   which is not support.07:52
dooglusAdeman: I missed a 'd' I think07:52
baFlannel, well they are vlogs.... but i dunno. i run with the whole vlog community and know the people that run freevlog.org and the sorts07:52
dooglusAdeman: probably the recommended way is to: "sudo invoke-rc.d vsftpd restart"07:53
paulproteusvincenz: Oh, learn to take a joke. (-:07:53
bathe free media is going to kick that ass off t.v. i can see it now07:53
Ademanhehe yeah vsftpd, but still07:53
mjbheyall does anyone know a way to make a dual screen setup have one monitors metacity windows set to always on visible workspace automatically?07:53
Ademaninvoke-rc.d, what's that do? (for my understanding's sake)07:53
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dooglusmjb: metacity isn't really configurable.  it's the GNOME way.  it's already set up optimally by the GNOME experts.07:54
paulproteusdooglus: You forgot the scare quotes around "optimally". (-;07:54
dooglusAdeman: it runs /etc/init.d/<whatever> for you.  check "man invoke-rc.d"07:54
intelikeycalls the init scripts Ademan07:54
mjbokidoki... is there any way to doc termminal sessions  for tailing log files?07:55
mjbthat you know of?07:55
mjbthat's what I'm trying to do?07:55
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dooglusmjb: 'doc'?  wasn't he one of the 7 dwarves?07:56
intelikeyAdeman also of note; update-rc.d  manupulates the symlinks to the init scripts.07:56
raahulshello, i need some help.07:56
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mjbhe he as in dock07:56
proconsulme has forgotten all his wireless knowledge. doh!07:56
Ademanthanks all07:56
nickrudpaulproteus, scare quotes not needed, it's unscary :)07:56
dooglusintelikey: did you notice that runlevels 2 and 3 have almost, but not quite, the same things in them?  any idea what runlevel 3 is for?07:56
PORDOi've upgraded to dapper, and my usb devices aren't being listed under /media/ now.  how can i use lsusb to find which device i need to mount?07:57
proconsulisnt the hostap driver in the kernel ?07:57
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dooglusnickrud: it's a bit scary.  it would be good if metacity was more configurable.07:57
Ademananyone familiar with vsftpd?07:57
whyameye_is there a system log I can look at?07:57
doogluswhyameye_: there are lots, in /var/log/*07:57
intelikeythere is an app that logs console/tty actions. mjb if that is your question.07:57
mjbcool I'll check it out and write an essay...07:58
nickruddooglus, we went thru that a long time ago. havoc created a usable window manger, that doesn't scare users.07:58
dooglusmjb: you can use 'script' to write terminal input and output to a file as it happens.07:58
intelikeydooglus ubuntu "by default" only uses S 0 1 2 6    thus 3 4 5 are wasted space on the default ub.07:58
raahulsi just installed ubuntu, and bought a wireless card, but i need some help getting the drivers onto the system.07:58
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jon_nickrud, Madpilot: i did as you suggested, Madpilot. and it no longer lanches a terminal window on startup. BUT, last time i logged into IRC i accidentally fat-fingered Skype to launch. I closed it, asked my Qs of you guys and went off to test.07:59
dooglusnickrud: right, but allowing me to customise it to my tastes needn't scare users either.  just let me use X resources if you don't want to clutter the GUI07:59
nickrudand runlevesl 3,4,5 are identitical to 2, except for the number of virtual consoles available07:59
intelikeytee07:59
jon_hmm.07:59
dooglusnickrud: or have gconf keys for the customisable things07:59
zwol*sigh* allow me to rephrase for raahuls.  he has a laptop, and he needs the wireless card to work.  what is the make and model of the laptop, raahuls?08:00
raahulsinspiron 380008:00
dooglusnickrud: that's not quite true.  2 and 3 are a bit different08:00
jon_nickrud, Madpilot: now Skype is launching. closing it and selecting svae setup on logoff doesn't make it stop08:00
zwoloh, it's an external wireless card? what is its make and model, then?08:00
bamuahaha i have an inspiron 6000. anyone want to buy it08:00
nickruddooglus, true. I do miss sawfish in some ways08:00
nickruddooglus, where?08:00
rob_how can i fix the splicing of wmv files?08:00
mjbmaybe I should use ion instead... I think I have a mild case of Autism08:01
raahulsit is a WNA-1330 wireless G notebook adapter (D-link)08:01
Madpilotjon_, gah. might be a Skype bug, but I've no idea.08:01
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dooglusnickrud: for example, /etc/rc2.d/S30freq-scaling -> /etc/init.d/freq-scaling.sh exists, but there's nothing similar in level 308:01
baraahuls, does that model not have an internal wifi card?08:01
nickrudargh, I'm arguing a decision made a couple of years ago, which I had no input into.08:01
jon_Madpilot. it was the last program i (accidentally) launched before i came into IRC last time.08:02
raahulsba - no, no internal wifi08:02
banickrud. dont tell me it was getting married08:02
dooglusnickrud: also S99stop-readahead -> ../init.d/stop-readahead isn't in level 3, and neither is S10powernowd.early -> ../init.d/powernowd.early08:02
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jon_i had closed it, tho. and saved the setup as i logged off.08:02
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nickruddooglus, dapper?08:02
intelikeyhehhe here's a good one.08:02
intelikeytty2 [root#~]  runlevel08:02
intelikeyunknown08:02
dooglusnickrud: yesser08:02
Madpilotjon_, it shouldn't be doing that, AFAIK.08:02
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nickrudcuz I don't see differences in breezy, and so I'll just shut up until I know more then08:03
rob_specifically WMV3?08:03
jon_well. i'm gonna sleep on it and see hat happens tomorrow. thanks for your help, Madpilot and nickrud. g'night!08:03
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rob_does anyone know how to get WMV3 files playing correctly?08:04
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dooglusnickrud: looking at the postinst script for powernowd, it looks like it *should* be in both 2 and 3, but it isn't for me..08:04
nickruddooglus, you should file bugs, and force a decision that rc3 is not rc2 then08:04
graftrob_: with what?08:04
rob_graft, with anything08:04
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graftrob_: try mplayer08:04
PORDOmy usb devices aren't showing up under computer:/// -- :(08:04
jon_Madpilot, FOUND the issue! Skype stays open on the menu bar. had to close it and it'll probably not launch. g'nite!08:05
rob_graft, vlc won't play video just audio, everything else splices the video (mplayer included) so i have double vision (each having half the lines if that makes sense)08:05
Madpilotjon_, cool. hope that fixes it!08:05
graftsplices?08:05
nickruddooglus, but don'08:05
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dooglusnickrud: I used to change my setup so that gdm wasn't run in level 2, only in 3; then I could boot into 3 if I wanted X or 2 if I wanted just VCs.  but now that 2 and 3 are different I don't trust booting into 3.08:05
graftdid you do that w32codecs stuff, rob_?08:05
nickrudt get me wrong, ubuntu has plowed new ground in other things, this may not be bad. I just am ignorant08:06
dooglusnickrud: do you still have /var/lib/dpkg/info/powernowd.postinst?08:06
nickruddooglus, and ingnorance is remediable :)08:06
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dooglusnickrud: if so, what does the 'update-rc.d' line in it say?08:07
PORDOthere's skype for linux?08:07
PORDOi still don't know any reason anyone would use skype.08:07
dooglusPORDO: there is08:07
mjbHey I've installed java 1.5... does anyone know how to change the default java interpreter for eclipse?08:08
PORDOdo people _want_ to be locked in with a company with closed standards?08:08
dooglusmjb: probably "sudo update-alternatives --config java"08:08
MadpilotPORDO, apparently :(08:08
mjbcheers08:08
nickruddooglus, it's simply defaults, no special fixes for runlevels08:08
PORDOSIP or Jingle work for me ;)08:08
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PORDOactually i heard skype was giving out free phone calls to the PSTN now.08:08
dooglusnickrud: you don't see a line like this: "update-rc.d powernowd.early start 10 2 . >/dev/null" ?08:09
PORDOwith gizmo project i pay 1 per minute.08:09
T`hi guys, i'm installing ubuntu, is there a net-inst type CD so i dont need to download everything?08:09
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graftPSTN?08:09
nickruddooglus, if [ -x "/etc/init.d/powernowd" ] ; then08:09
nickrud        update-rc.d powernowd defaults >/dev/null08:09
PORDOthe traditional phone network.08:09
PORDOthat dinos still use.08:09
nickruddooglus, breezy08:09
graft(like me)08:09
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grafti never even got a cell phone08:09
dooglusnickrud: I see that too - that's for 'powernowd', but I'm talking about 'powernowd.early', a separate init script08:10
PORDOi'm extremely frustrated.  does anyone know how i can get usb devices to show up in computer:// in nautilus?!08:10
PORDOdapper is pissing me off08:10
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T`hmm08:10
james_can anyone here help me with my wifi card08:10
T`any way i can do netinstall for ubuntu?08:10
FlannelPORDO: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support08:10
PORDOlol...okay.08:10
rob_graft, yes08:10
mjbcheers Dooglas that worked08:10
vladuz976is anybody here using TeXmacs? i need to get revtex4 working with it. anybody know how to use that with texmacs?08:10
nickruddooglus, that script does not exist in breezy, so ...08:11
dooglusnickrud: ok...08:11
james_i just updated my kernel and everything but I still can not figure out how to work my wifi card it is not showing as a device08:11
raahulsi have a laptop with freshly installed ubuntu, any chance someone here can help me configure my wifi card/get the appropriate drivers installed onto my laptop?08:11
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james_it is a network everywhere nwp11b08:11
nickruddooglus, welcome to beating your head against what's not debian :)08:11
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nickrudof course, I'm a year out of date on debian, so I shouldn't even say that anymore08:11
james_I am useing ubuntu for my linux08:12
james_<----- really could use some help08:12
dooglusnickrud: I don't see any /etc/init.d/power* in my debian sid partition08:12
nickruddooglus, I dispair that even etch+1 & ubuntu will meet, however much I wish. But, I'm not gonna clutter the field, since I won't be doing the work.08:14
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proconsulI need to blacklist a module, under modprobe.d there are several "blacklist" files, I just add the module name to the main "blacklist" file?08:14
rob_gaft, actually, mplayer won't play any video, how do i set it up right?08:14
proconsulright?08:14
crimsunproconsul: breezy or dapper?08:14
james_<-------NEEDS HELP WITH WIFI08:14
bimberi_!wifi08:15
crimsunjames_: your capslock seems to be stuck? ;-)08:15
ubotu[wifi]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto08:15
nickrudjames_, if I had any experience, I would try. There will be others who know, who will help08:15
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intelikeyoh i must be in runlevel 4  cause that's where all the consoles are at...08:15
james_thanks nick08:15
james_sorry crimsum about the caps08:15
james_had the wrong key down08:15
intelikeyerrr james_ check the wiki ?08:15
james_i tried the link i have seems to be broken08:16
intelikey!wifi08:16
ubotu[wifi]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto08:16
proconsulcrimsun, dapper, I have a demarctech prism wireless card and I think the orinoco module is getting loaded and blocking the driver it actually needs08:16
james_if you have a wiki i can look at then i will more then happy to check it out08:16
crimsunproconsul: the syntax is: blacklist module08:16
rob_how come Mplayer cannot play any video files?08:16
crimsunproconsul: see any of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*08:16
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rob_okay, that being a very ignorant question, what would cause mplayer not to play any video files08:16
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dooglusrob_: you need the right video codecs08:16
james_ok i found a wiki i am gona go and read it and see if i can figure this out08:17
james_thanks08:17
proconsulcrimsun, yup thats what I thought,08:17
james_again for the link08:17
james_talk to you all later08:17
spikeb i wonder if it's possible to both work at walmart and have a brain08:17
proconsuljames_, what kind of card?08:17
james_network everywhere nwp11b08:17
dooglus!restrictedformats08:17
ubotuI heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats08:17
dooglusrob_: see the above link for codecs08:17
rob_dooglus, i have all of those08:19
dooglusrob_: do you have an example file that it won't play for you?  a little one perhaps that you can let me try?08:19
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proconsuljames_, do you know the chipset?08:20
rob_dooglus, yes, but i can play the fame file in kaffien and Movie Player (which i think is totem)08:20
rob_fame=same08:20
PORDOis there anything i can look at under hal-device-manager to see what a usb device is named under /dev, so i can mount it?08:20
nickrudspikeb, trust me, you can work for worse that walmart and still have a soul08:20
james_i want to say atx-100 i have the windows drivers for them if you know how to use ndswrapper08:20
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james_of what ever it is called08:20
PORDOi have no audio in dapper, so i'm going to save my voice mail to my pmp and listen to it...if i can figure out how to mount it, now that nautilus is sucking.08:20
intelikeyhow do you send a file person to person ?08:21
dooglusrob_: I play everything in mplayer.  it can't play DRM-protected .wmv files, but then again, nothing can...08:21
intelikeydon't answer that.08:21
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Blue89I have stupid question about ubuntu's cd ripping software: why ogg instead of mp3?08:21
spikebnickrud: i dont care about souls, i just want brains from people who work at my local walmart!08:21
dooglusjames_: did you get an answer to your "how do I kill X from the command line" question?08:21
outlawcrookstuck at 640X480 32bit08:21
PORDOthen again, why would anyone want to play a proprietary format.08:21
pittiPORDO: your device isn't mounted automatically? Can you please file a bug?08:21
outlawcrookhow to get it higher?08:21
spikebBlue89: it's set to ogg by default for legal reasons08:21
PORDOpitti ehh...okay.  where?08:21
FlannelBlue89: because we cna legally distribute ogg support.  And, ogg is a nice free, open format.08:21
Blue89ah08:21
pittiPORDO: also, the 'block.device' property in h-d-m shows you the device08:21
nickrudspikeb, thats asking for too much. Just accept they have souls08:21
PORDOpitti could you also tell me how to mount it?08:21
spikebnickrud: heh damn it08:21
pittiPORDO: sure08:22
bimberiBlue89: ogg is a Free format, mp3 is patent encumbered08:22
outlawcrookto 1024X76808:22
dooglusPORDO: the only time I've ever wanted to is when I spent hours downloading it using bittorrent and then realised after that it was DRM protected...08:22
PORDOwhat's the full name of the property pitti ?08:22
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PORDOdooglus lol08:22
james_douglas i did not ask a question abou tthe command line08:22
rob_graft, dooglus, i just ran mplayer from the command line and it worked... better than anything else too : / ... how come i can't double click a video file then?08:22
Blue89is mp3 smaller file size than ogg?08:22
pittiPORDO: but first I'm surprised that it isn't mounted automatically; https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-volume-manager/+filebug is a head-start for filing a bug08:22
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pittiPORDO: the full name *is* block.device'08:22
dooglusjames_: must have been a different james_ then?  (07:36 < james_> nickrud, do you know how to logout xserver from the command line?)08:23
alan|laptophi all08:23
Blue89hi08:23
rob_holy crap mplayer kicks ass...08:23
pittiPORDO: just do 'dmesg' and look at the last few lines; it should be something like /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb108:23
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nickruddooglus, same question, I don't know of a gnome command to do that08:23
pittiPORDO: and 'pmount-hal /dev/sda1' (or whatever) will mount it08:23
PORDOpitti i already did that and saw nothing like that08:23
dooglusnickrud: "sudo invoke-rc.d stop gdm" would do it, no?08:23
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nickruddooglus, no, that won08:24
overridersay i install normal ubuntu, but only seldom use the gui. can i just change inittab to 3 or something so it starts up in textmode, and when i need the gui i just init5?08:24
alan|laptop"collect2: ld returned execution code 1" <-- what package does ld come from ?08:24
pittiPORDO: you mean, the kernel does not even recognize your device? that's baad08:24
rob_what would cause mplayer to not work from gui but from cli?08:24
nickrud't call all open apps to close safely (wish I knew one)08:24
dooglusrob_: I only ever use it from the command line.  I have "alias m=mplayer" in my .bashrc, so I just type "m <file>" to play the file08:24
PORDO[4296921.365000]  usb 5-1: USB disconnect, address 208:24
PORDO[4296925.123000]  usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 608:24
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PORDOit's in hal-dev-man08:25
rob_mplayer from cli doesn't have the gui does it?08:25
PORDOpitti i don't know what the device is called.08:25
pittiPORDO: well, this is just the USB bus driver, but there's no mesage about the storage device on it08:25
dooglusnickrud: you want something like clicking the 'close gnome' icon?08:25
nickrudrob_, gmplayer from the cli08:25
outlawcrookanyone know how to get my display off of 640X480 too like 1024X76808:25
pittiPORDO: can you please pastebin your full dmesg?08:25
PORDOsure08:25
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rob_nickrud, ahh now my video's don't show up, just audio08:26
rob_...08:26
outlawcrookwas working great at friends house so must be my monitor drivers it is using08:26
mustard5!tell outlawcrook about fixres08:26
nickruddooglus, no, I want something that tells all apps to close all open files, pop the dialog on the current desktop if needed08:26
intelikeyhow the heck does bash call more when there is no "more" installed ?08:26
PORDOhttp://pastebin.com/72009908:27
nickruddooglus, I am anal about closing open apps before restarting X08:27
dooglusintelikey: are you sure it's running 'more'?08:27
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dooglusintelikey: check with 'ps' in a separate window08:27
crimsun'morning pitti :)08:27
rob_what would cause gmplayer to not work but mplayer to work perfectly?08:27
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intelikeydooglus it acts just like more and says more...08:27
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dooglusnickrud: you can 'pkill -u nickrud' to kill all your apps08:28
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eduedixhi. i just installed ubuntu on my amd64 box. i have x1600 pro graphic card and cant get x to work. i think vesa drivers dont support my card. so i need to try last ati-drivers 8.24.8. can you please give me a link for an easy installation ?08:28
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intelikeydooglus it has no pid08:28
dooglusintelikey: in 'more', if you hit 'h' at the 'more' prompt, it shows some help.  does bash's 'more' do that?08:28
pittiPORDO: that looks horribly incomplete :/08:28
intelikeymust be a bash internal08:29
pittiPORDO: are you sure that there is a standard partition table on it?08:29
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intelikeydooglus no it doesn't08:29
PORDOpitti ??08:30
PORDOthat's just the last 20 lines of my dmesg.08:30
dooglusintelikey: so it's not really 'more' then.  it's just part of bash.  notice also that the real 'more' will show you the current line number when you hit '=', whereas bash's fake 'more' doesn't.08:30
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PORDOwell, the ones that occured after i plugged the device in.08:30
bimberiintelikey: dpkg -S /bin/more  -->  package "util-linux"08:30
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pittiPORDO: yes, I know, but there's no sign of the kernel finding a partition table, let alone partitions08:30
nickruddooglus, I don't want to kill apps, I want to save data08:31
watson540guys i have a question, im trying to compul e DR17, and i keep getting this cursed error!! - aclocal: configure.in: 117: macro `AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library - canssomeone tell me what im missing?!08:31
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dooglusnickrud: like "file blah is modified; do you want to save or discard" kind of questions?08:31
watson540i didnt see gtk in apt anywhere08:31
intelikeybimberi i'm not trying to install more. i don't want it.  i have less.08:31
bimberiintelikey: understood.  just letting you know which package it's in :)08:32
doogluswatson540: probably libgtkgl2.0-dev08:32
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james_ok i am back08:32
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rob_what would cause gmplayer to not work but mplayer to work perfectly?08:32
intelikeybimberi it just agrivates me that bash uses it's built in more...   i consider that a bug.08:32
james_i switched eth cards to my USB port so i can plug in my wifi card so i can get some help on setting it up08:32
james_can anyone help me out08:32
james_i am running ubuntu08:32
nickruddooglus, yes, exactly. I'm listening, if I missed something ...08:33
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dooglusintelikey: I hate it too.  I wish it would just scroll all that stuff past so I can continue working.  I don't want to have to deal with a fake 'more' prompt.08:33
to0omcould anybody of you try the following: open nautilus, create a folder somewhere, go into that folder, switch to tree view on the left side, right-click onto that folder and select 'Move to trash'?08:33
dooglusnickrud: no, I don't know the answer.08:33
to0omdoing that, nautilus crashes08:33
watson540dooglus: i just installed it via apt..no dice :(08:33
nickruddooglus, you bas****08:33
nickrud:)08:33
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watson540am wondering if i even have all my repos in sources.list08:33
intelikeylike s[tab] [tab]   should simply scroll all commands starting with s     like it used too.08:33
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intelikeydooglus prezactly.08:34
watson540someone said i didnt have gtk installed but i think i do08:34
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doogluswatson540: I would suggest doing the following:  add a "deb-src" line for each "deb" line in /etc/apt/sources.list; then "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get build-dep enlightenment"08:35
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eduedixhi. i just installed ubuntu on my amd64 box. i have x1600 pro graphic card and cant get x to work. i think vesa drivers dont support my card. so i need to try last ati-drivers 8.24.8. can you please give me a link for an easy installation ?08:35
doogluswatson540: that will install all the packages necessary to build e16, which will be very similar to the ones needed to build e1708:35
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watson540dooglus: well see, i compil;ed all the e17 pkg's from source a few days ago, although i found out later it wasnt an up to date snapshot..08:36
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watson540this time i tried using an .sh script ...08:36
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intelikeyadd a deb-src line for each of that one deb line....hehhe  :)08:36
watson540its not even while compiling E i get the error its while compiling some if its aps08:36
watson540e17 pkgs are changiing all the time, some get tossed away and then new ones pop up08:37
watson540would this error maybe attribute to me possibly not having gtk installed at all?08:37
dooglusintelikey: just for you:  add a line saying "set page-completions off" to ~/.inputrc; restart bash; voila08:37
watson540caus as i said i did an apt-cache search and didnt see a 'gtk2' ppkg08:37
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doogluswatson540: if you didn't have gtk installed, lots of stuff would break.  you might not have the gtk -dev packages though08:38
ppcguyhey all. Is it possible to roll back to breezy from an upgrade to dapper w/o reinstallin?08:38
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nickrudppcguy, not a chance08:38
rob_no one has any ideas? gmplayer = doesn't play, mplayer = works08:39
watson540well hell, ubun tu comes with gnome and i coulda swore gnome was based on gtk :) which is why im pretty sure i have it08:39
nickrudppcguy, sorry to be the messenger of bad news08:39
dooglusrob_: I've got an idea:  use mplayer!08:39
spikebheh08:39
ppcguythat's what I figured.. No worries and thanx08:39
intelikeytanks dooglus  /me puts it in /etc/profile & /etc/bash.bashrc  just to be sure it takes... :)08:39
eduedixhi. i just installed ubuntu on my amd64 box. i have x1600 pro graphic card and cant get x to work. i think vesa drivers dont support my card. so i need to try last ati-drivers 8.24.8. can you please give me a link for an easy installation ?08:39
spikebit's libgtk08:39
dooglusintelikey: it won't work in either of those places.  put it in ~/.inputrc08:39
rob_dooglus, eh, i like having a button to push if i have to pee and pause my videos08:39
dooglusrob_: hit the space bar08:39
watson540eduedix: apt-cache search fglrx08:40
watson540eduedix: then install the pertaining pkg's that it shows you08:40
spikeblibgtk2.0-dev for compiling08:40
khermanswho needs help?08:40
khermansi got 15 minutes08:40
dooglusrob_: in mplayer you can do everything from the keyboard.  that way your girlfriend won't get annoyed with you if you fiddle with the controls while you're watching a movie.08:40
dooglusrob_: there's nothing as annoying as a GUI on a movie player08:40
rob_dooglus, it is me that gets annoyed when my girlfriend fiddles with the controls, and actually it's not the controls, i just want to be able to double click something in nautilus and have it work08:41
intelikeydooglus ah i missread you as .bashrc08:41
eduedixwatson540: will these directly install for 8.24.8 ?08:41
dooglusintelikey: to find that I did "man bash" RET /pager RET08:41
rob_work with mplayer i meant to say, as the default app08:41
intelikeyk08:41
wanozzQuestion: Why do for example subtitle load on a movie but not the movie itself and I got some problems to get my audigy 4 to work or give sound ?08:41
watson540eduedix: i dont know the current version of ati driver in your specific repo08:41
spikebyou can do that08:41
spikebrob_: you can do that08:41
dooglusrob_: you can tell nautilus to use mplayer.  right-click the movie, select 'properties', then 'open with'08:41
nickrudkhermans, we got a guy that needs to roll back from dapper to breezy08:41
watson540eduedix: but you asked for an easy way, i reccommend hitting the ubuntu wiki as they have a whole page for this stuff..kjust search it for fglrx08:42
eduedixwatson540: actually i dont know too.. i just installed ubuntu and dont know much about its package system :/08:42
khermansnickrud, ewww08:42
spikebnickrud: not gonna happen. he's going to have to reinstall.08:42
rob_and it'll be mplayer not gmplayer?08:42
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nickrudkhermans, sorry, I had to say that :)08:42
dooglusrob_: it'll be whatever you tell it to be there.08:42
dooglusrob_: you can get it to run "/bin/rm -fr /" each time you click on a movie if you like...08:42
spikebHEH08:42
rob_i'll try that08:43
khermansnickrud, actually ive had great success with Dapper -- except for Espresso08:43
dooglusI wouldn't08:43
watson540eduedix: surprising that the regular MESA drivers dont work for ou08:43
rob_someone might08:43
spikebdapper's been painless for me08:43
intelikeyret /  dooglus  ?   sense when is enter needed to do a / search ?08:43
nickrudkhermans, it was the 15 minutes, I had to do it08:43
spikebwith the exception of banshee, which now works very well08:43
eduedixwatson540: yes i know :/08:43
dooglusintelikey: enter was needed to get the 'man 'command to run08:43
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to0omcould anybody of you try the following: open nautilus, create a folder somewhere, go into that folder, switch to tree view on the left side, right-click onto that folder, select 'Move to trash' and tell me what happens?08:43
khermansnickrud, what -- can't just change sources back to Breezy, update, upgrade, dist-upgrade, and reboot???!?!?!  muahahaha08:44
nickrudkhermans, I've done several nice installs with dapper, likewise08:44
watson540eduedix: the fglrx drivers are prettty painlesss these days :) just run the binary and do a fglrxconfig afterwards :)08:44
eduedixwatson540: so now i am installing xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted-modules-(kernelversion) .. but i think it doesnt install the version 8.24.808:44
watson540although i still say hit up the wiki as they use dpkg to rconfigure the driver and its much easier :)08:44
intelikeydooglus well it didn't seem to work.....  ;/08:44
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wanozzWhere is the file that contains the repositaries ?08:45
eduedixwatson540: hmm.. but i think its always better to install from the repo08:45
intelikeynow i'll go man a while08:45
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watson540eduedix: me too :)08:45
dooglusto0om: in dapper, the nautilus window disappears :)08:45
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M_Fatihhi08:45
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dooglusto0om: are you using dapper too?08:45
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watson540eduedix: dont mis-understand me you install using apt then use dpkg to configure the driver in a GUI08:45
eduedixwatson540: so.. can you tell me what to do for a 8.24.8 installation ? should i touch the serverlist ( i donno the file though)08:46
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watson540only if your nnot familar with XF86Config will you need it though08:46
to0omyes dooglus08:46
watson540eduedix: go to ati's site and dopwnload the driver :)08:46
to0omit just crashes doing that08:46
to0omi08:46
eduedixwatson540: :P no way to install from the repo ?08:46
to0omi'd like to send a stack trace to the gnome developers08:46
to0ombut i just can't create one08:47
watson540eduedix: not for a specific version , i mean if the repo has the version your looking for then great. otherwise you install manual which is08:47
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watson540easy08:47
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to0ombecause after nautilus is loaded, it goes into the background08:47
watson540not like yo u have to compile anything :)08:47
intelikeyi found it.  i had trimmed s off of completions  heh works now. dooglus  :)08:47
khermansto0om, gdb, b main, bt ?08:47
dooglushow do I view the trash in nautilus?  I just moved a folder there by mistake and want to move it back08:47
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eduedixwatson540: ah.. i get you.. hm.. which server link should i add to sourcelist ?08:48
to0ommm khermans running gdb, it says "Program exited normally."08:48
dooglusto0om: are you sure it's crashing?08:48
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Unenvarjohello08:48
to0omwhat else dooglus?08:48
dooglusto0om: it might just be closing the window08:48
khermanswell, then it seems to not have crashed08:48
to0omwhy that?08:48
dooglusto0om: 'cos my other nautilus window stayed open08:48
intelikeydooglus dubble click rhe trash can08:48
dooglusto0om: if it had crashed I would expect all the windows to disappear.08:48
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dooglusintelikey: I don't have a trash can - I'm not running GNOME08:48
to0omhmm but why should it just close the window?08:48
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intelikeyerr you may be set to single click08:49
to0omwhy should it do that dooglus? just close the window?08:49
dooglusto0om: I guess it's a bug.08:49
intelikeylook in .nautilus/trash  ?08:49
to0omhmm ok then i can't create a stack trace it seems08:49
dooglusintelikey: it appears that typing "trash://" into the address bar goes to the trash08:50
dooglusintelikey: (lucky guess :)08:50
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dooglusdoes nautilus not remember where things in the trash used to be?  I don't see an 'undelete' option in there.08:50
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eduedixwatson540: i actually dont know how you call the file name that contains repo servers list.. where is that file ?08:51
intelikeychat you check the address via the left side folders ?08:51
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intelikeychat ha can08:51
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doogluseduedix: /etc/apt/sources.list you mean?08:52
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metatag!seen metatag08:52
ubotumetatag is currently on #ubuntu (5m 9s)08:52
dooglusto0om: I don't think it's crashing - it's just not behaving as I would expect it to.08:52
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eduedixdooglus: ah.. that must be. which server contains ati-8.24.8 driver ?08:53
Stormx2How do I add a command to startup? Adding it to sessions does nothing. Its a java server so the command doesn't finish.08:53
to0omok, i've just reported it dooglus08:53
SeriiI'm trying to connect to VPN server using pptp, but I've got "not replacing default route to eth1" and "cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP". What does this mean ??08:53
maswanis launchpad known to be down (for anyone else that is)?08:53
khermansSerii, probably means your don't have the router specified'08:54
nickrudmaswan, good link here08:54
intelikeydooglus & to0om may i sujest you check the launcher it may be an "alternatives" error or something like that.08:54
rockysorry Maswan don't know08:54
maswanHmm.. I can't get through my transit provider with a traceroute either.08:55
eduedixdooglus: any idea ?08:55
khermansSerii, proxy ARP refers to ARP requests that are forwarded to another network, usually by your router08:55
maswanYeah, gah, telia.net seems to have dropped the ubuntu.com net.08:55
Seriikhermans, connection seems to be established, but ping says "packets where filtered".08:56
dooglus!info xorg-driver-fglrx08:56
ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu16.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 8129 kB, Installed size: 23544 kB08:56
doogluseduedix: it seems to be in the 'restricted' repository08:56
khermansSerii, you have two different interfaces?  eth0 and eth1?08:56
dooglusintelikey: what launcher are you talking about?08:56
khermansSerii, might be safer to disable the wifi one, and only use your wired connection for the VPN08:57
Seriikhermans, yes. eth0 for local network. eth1 for adsl connection08:57
eduedixdooglus: but it still tries to install 8.16 drivers :/08:57
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dooglusto0om: try this:  use nautilus to view any folder you like, then, from the command line, rename the folder.  the nautilus window will close.08:58
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intelikeythe one that isn't working dooglus, for to0om.   did i misread the error.  starts ok from cli but launcher (probably in the menus) doesn't work... ?08:58
doogluseduedix: I don't know anything about ATI, sorry.08:58
dooglusintelikey: I think you're thinking of rob_, not to0om?08:58
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dooglusintelikey: rob_'s bu**ered off already.08:59
intelikeyoh maybe.08:59
degreezquestion, whats the syntaxt to install a .rpm or a .tar.gz file08:59
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Seriikhermans, i don't have wifi, i use wired dsl modem08:59
intelikeyi had been out of the room... so i prolly did run two issues tofather.09:00
dooglusdegreez: .rpm files aren't really suited for ubuntu - ubuntu uses .deb files.  you can use a program called 'alien' to install them, but it's better to find a .deb, or compile from source.09:00
khermansSerii, i'm not sure about the VPN issue :-(09:00
intelikeytogather even09:00
dooglusdegreez: the .tar.gz is probably the source code; use "tar xf <file.tar.gz>" to extract it, then read the readme09:00
wanozzCan anyone tell me how to get a soundblaster audigy 4 to work ?09:00
Seriikhermans, thanks anyway09:00
degreezthanks dooglus, will try.09:00
spikebbari was a wobbly09:01
spikebno wonder the FBI and police hated her09:01
spikebwrong window09:01
dooglusdegreez: if you manage to find a .deb, do "sudo dpkg -i file.deb" to install it09:01
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eduedixwhere are the downloaded package files ?09:01
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doogluseduedix: /var/cache/apt/archives/09:02
eduedixdooglus: ok thanks ^^09:02
doogluseduedix: "locate .deb" would have told you09:02
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intelikeydegreez for rpm  alien  but you don't want too.  and for tgz tar -xzf filename.tgz && cd filename && (READ the README) ./configure && make && make install    but you really don't want to...   that's the syntax.   now to install apps.  just use the packagemanager :)09:02
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Pimpshizzledhello?09:03
Pimpshizzledanyone awake?09:04
intelikeyno09:04
dooglusintelikey: I like "sudo checkinstall" instead of "make install" - it builds a .deb file, so you can easily uninstall it again after if you want to.09:04
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dooglusZZZzzz...09:04
Pimpshizzledlol :P09:04
Stormx2w00t free skype!09:04
Stormx2(SkypeOut I mean)09:04
Pimpshizzledi came on to ask a quick question, i hate to sound the desperate noob, but if anyone has the patience, id like to ask a question09:05
intelikeydooglus good point.... just used to  make uninstall09:05
khermansStormx2, try Gizmo Project instead09:05
intelikeyno questions in here mate.  we always bite noob's heads off......09:06
intelikey:)09:06
Pimpshizzledok, is the forums ok for ubuntu?09:06
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intelikey!ask09:07
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.09:07
dooglusintelikey: not all makefiles provide an 'uninstall' target, and anyway they can't be trusted to uninstall everything they installed.  using checkinstall you can be sure that the uninstall is clean, because it uses dpkg09:07
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HobbseePimpshizzled: dont ask to ask, just ask09:07
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khermansHobbsee, is it okay to ask to not ask to ask?09:08
Pimpshizzledbasically, just ripped the install cd for unbuntu, was going to put it on a second machine, which has decided not to work, wondered if there would be any way i could just set up a seperate partition on this computer  (with xp on) and try it that way09:08
Pimpshizzledi just wanna jump in the deep end, thats the best way to learn i think :D09:08
Hobbseekhermans: hehe.  yes09:08
dooglusPimpshizzled: the installer will offer to resize your existing XP partition for you.  make sure it has enough space on it09:08
nixanuthey, i've been looking around some forums for getting suspend and hibernate to work on a dell inspiron 600m with breezy, but can't seem to find out anything...anyone got some info they could share?09:09
Hobbsee!tell Pimpshizzled about dualboot09:09
spikebwonder if the bot does greetings09:09
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Hobbsee!hello09:09
ubotuHi, hobbsee!09:09
Hobbseespikeb: it does.09:09
spikebahh cool09:09
intelikeyPimpshizzled you bet.  linux likes to co-habitate hdd's09:10
khermansPimpshizzled, forced immersion -- after Windows XP SP2 Genuine Advantage took down my parents computer, I replaced it with Dapper -- never looked back09:10
spikebHobbsee: and hello from me, as well :)09:10
zcat[1] can anyone figure out wht I have _never_ been able to resize an ntfs partition, even when it's a completely clean install and only using 2G of a 20G drive and I freshly defragged right after the install?09:10
Hobbseehi spikeb :P09:10
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Pimpshizzleddapper?09:10
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Pimpshizzledahh, the new one which they wont send out yet? :P09:10
khermansPimpshizzled, the new version of Ubuntu, official in two weeks09:10
Pimpshizzledlol =) gotchya09:10
khermansPimpshizzled, you can easily install Dapper -- it's still in beta though09:11
zcat[1] released in two weeks.. been runnign it for nearly two minths already :)09:11
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zcat[1] damn this keyboard sucks!09:11
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WarOfAttritionwindows doesn't like to cohabitate hdds though09:11
Pimpshizzledthis is my first experience with linux in general ;) so ill try this release09:11
doogluszcat[1] : if the install disk can't do it, try running ntfsresize from the commandline in VC209:11
intelikeyPimpshizzled it doesn't live on ntfs or fat32 file systems though.    but it will make it's own fs on the partition/or free space provided for it.09:11
khermansPimpshizzled, actually, I think you'd have better luck with Dapper!!09:11
Pimpshizzledwell, i have a second HD which i could jsut format and install ubuntu to is that would work better09:11
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WarOfAttritionwindows deleted linux for me twice in the past09:12
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zcat[1] I have never managed to resize a windows partition using the stuff on the CD, I always end up with it failing and i get a ting 8M partition at the end of the drive..09:12
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zcat[1] *tiny09:12
zcat[1] .. not many distros will fit on an 8M partition ;(09:12
intelikeyno don't format it.  let linux do that.  it is going to anyway durring the install Pimpshizzled09:12
UnenvarjoI've never had windows deleting linux from me, not even the mbr, then again, windows is usually there first.09:12
doogluszcat[1] : last time I tried resizing an NTFS partition, the install disk failed to do it, without giving an error message.  in the end I used ntfsresize from the command line, and it failed as well, but told me how to fix it.09:13
zcat[1] windows always overwrites the MBR.. it's no big issue, just bring up a shell from a live cD or the install CD and reinstall grub.09:13
Unenvarjoyeah, that it does.09:13
Pimpshizzledso i cant tell ubuntu to install to my second hd? :) got a lot of stuff on the drive with windows on, so it might be safer to install there dya think?09:13
zcat[1] dooglus: ahhh.. so it's not just me!!09:13
doogluszcat[1] : it told me to boot into windows and run "scandisk/f" or some such, which found and fixed some inconsistancy on the NTFS partition.  after I had done that, the install disk was able to resize the NTFS partition.09:13
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doogluszcat[1] : I would say that the bug here is that the installer doesn't tell you why it is failing, and doesn't suggest running that windows command.09:14
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zcat[1] Pimpshizzled: second drive is definately the easiest option!09:14
WarOfAttritionwindows xp for me ignored to spare an ext3 partition more than once09:14
doogluszcat[1] : I don't remember the exact windows command, but 'ntfsresize' will tell you09:14
Pimpshizzled^-^ waaaay, i got something right then zcat, lol09:14
Pimpshizzledwell, thanks for your help guys, im going to try ubuntu09:14
dooglusPimpshizzled: good luck09:15
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ompaulPimpshizzled, don't try, just do :-)09:15
Pimpshizzledhopefully, it all goes well and i can kiss goodbye to windows fer good09:15
WarOfAttritionI think a better way to put it would be, windows likes to be installed on the first partition, or it throws a tantrum09:15
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dooglusto0om: are you going to, or did you already, report that nautilus 'bug'?09:15
zcat[1] scandisk /f ... ok. Will try that sometime.. havn't got a spare machine to play with at the moment, my test machine died horribly :(09:15
intelikeyWarOfAttrition i know how to stop that.....  mke2fs /dev/hda   and windows will not mess with it... :)09:15
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doogluszcat[1] : I'm not sure if it was 'scandisk/f' - it was something like that.  get ntfsresize to tell you it09:16
to0omhm i already did dooglus09:16
nixanutso, if someone was to install dapper now, will they have to reinstall after the final version is released, or just run an update script?09:16
dooglusto0om: OK, cool.09:16
to0omshouldn't i have done that?09:16
zcat[1] where is ntfsresize/09:16
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WarOfAttritionIt wont mess with it, but then windows will refuse to install perhaps09:17
zcat[1] I set up destiny's login in dapper with the blue / green toolbar and bliss wallpaper.. it looks soooo much like winXP..09:17
dooglusto0om: which package did you report it against?09:17
zcat[1] i need to find a really XPlike set of icons..09:18
WarOfAttritionwindows sees ext3 on the main partition, it takes it's ball and goes home, or overwrites it09:18
intelikeygurenteed it will refuse to install   :)09:18
Hobbseenixanut: no, just update09:18
Hobbseeand upgrade09:18
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nixanutah, ok09:19
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zcat[1] Ohhh... and I need to write a program that displays "you may be the victim of software counterfieting" in the toolbar too.. :)09:19
nixanuti'm wanting to do that...since it'll be out soon anyways09:19
WarOfAttritionso I see no sense in having windows on the same hard disk as linux, windows is dangerous09:19
ompaulintelikey, windows is the problem, you did that wrong, the hard drive is the kid and putting windows on it is like giving a 3 year old two bottles of highly fizzy caffeine laced drinks, solve the problem09:19
intelikeyWarOfAttrition we keep saying "windows" in a very generic way.... it's only windows xp that does that though.09:19
doogluszcat[1] : if you boot the install disk, then hold control and alt then press F2, you'll get to a shell prompt.09:20
dooglusat that prompt, you can run ntfsresize09:20
zcat[1] ahhh, good..09:20
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doogluszcat[1] : I think it's /usr/sbin/ntfsresize, but it's in the PATH anyway09:20
WarOfAttritiononly windows xp does it in that way. I think all windows since 98 at least have done these stunts09:20
WarOfAttritiononce, windows 98 destroyed an ntfs partition for me09:20
intelikeyompaul you must not have read the sulution i posted....  "mke2fs /dev/hda"   fixed.   aka no more windows.09:21
dooglusI've seen windows offer "this drive isn't readable; format?" when I click on an ext3 partition09:21
lwizardlhow do I mount a windows ntfs partition so I can copy my files over and the fdisk it09:21
Remyhey guys, does anyone know of a html editor for ubuntu like microsoft's frontpage ?09:21
dooglusRemy: bluefish?09:21
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zcat[1] no point playing with breezy anyhow.. I'll wait until dapper is out.. I've been flogging them off to ppl with a quickstart guide and too many ppl aren't prepared to toss or even reinstall windows.. If I can provide reliable advice on resizing there's a chance they'll actually install it!!09:21
lwizardlremy: bluefish i think it was is a linux html editor09:22
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Remywill try it.  thanks09:22
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dooglusRemy: there's another one that I've seen recommended a few times, but I forget its name09:22
Remy!html editor09:22
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Remy09:22
intelikeynever had trubble with 98 or ME doing anything like that without asking WarOfAttrition but i wont say it cant happen.09:22
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ompaulintelikey, but hitting windows is pointless :-) removing it on the other hand has a point (and yes I did read it, read mine again ;-))09:22
zcat[1] i think 98 would reinstall the MBR too.. fairly certain..09:23
WarOfAttritionI think it depends on bios settings intelikey, but it happened to me09:23
dooglusRemy: run "apt-cache search HTML editor | grep -i html | grep -i edit" to get a list of suggestions09:23
mustard5with win98 you need the boot floppy to reinstall the MBR I think09:23
zcat[1] .. one thing for sure, vista is guaranteed to add a whole new layer of incompatability..09:23
WarOfAttritionso windows even hates its future self09:23
zcat[1] nah, quite sure the 98 install nukes the MBR too..09:24
intelikeyzcat[1]  yes 98 95 also installed mbr... but mbr is no biggy09:24
robanyone have problems with sound with Flash in Firefox?09:24
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WarOfAttritionyou need a boot disk for sure, since win98 isn't bootable, but I made a bootable win98 disk09:24
dooglusRemy: I remembered.  It's called 'nvu'.  Check that out too :)09:24
Remyk09:24
zcat[1] same.. I had a tiny drive with DOS.. no way there was enough room to dualboot so I just went 1005 linux..09:25
Remythanks dooglus  :)09:25
zcat[1] slackware with iirc 1.1.4 kernel..09:25
intelikeywin98 not bootable ?09:25
WarOfAttritionso in short windows can't even stand other versions of itself09:25
WarOfAttritionthe original win98 cds aren't bootable09:25
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intelikeyin what country WarOfAttrition ?09:25
WarOfAttritionin any win98 cd in north america I would say09:26
to0omdooglus, what do you mean?09:26
to0omwhich package?09:26
zcat[1] windows will share with other versions of windows quite nicely..09:26
dooglusto0om: where did you file the bug?09:26
intelikeyWarOfAttrition the one i'm looking at is...09:26
to0omat bugzilla.gnome.org09:26
WarOfAttritionzcat, only if fat32 is the main partition09:26
to0omdooglus,09:26
WarOfAttritionfat32 + ntfs dont get along09:27
wakymh i have a litte problem09:27
waky http://pastebin.com/720156 <. plz look at this09:27
ompaul!offtopic09:27
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!09:27
intelikeyi think it may depend on whether it was oem cd or venella windows cd09:27
zcat[1] wellll.. XP can still read fat32.09:27
wakysudo module-assistant a-i fglrx this was the command09:27
WarOfAttritionactually, I had a hell of a time installing win98 on anything but the c drive, I think I gave up09:27
Remydooglus - NVU is pefect.  Thanks :)09:27
dooglusRemy: did you try bluefish too?09:28
WarOfAttritionbut try installing win xp with ntfs, then win98 on the 2nd partition, not happening easily09:28
zcat[1] OEM cd's usually just nuke the whole drive, mbr and partiton table and all09:28
ompaulcan we take the windows stuff to #windows and leave some room for anyone who has a Ubuntu question?09:28
Remydooglus - yes, I like NVU more allready :D09:28
dooglusRemy: ok, cool.09:28
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dooglusI've got a ubuntu question...09:29
Remydooglus, it's just cause I'm quite used to frontpage, and NVU is at first glance more similar to it than bluefish09:29
dooglusI quite often use the computers in an office near me.  They all run Windows.  I'd like to use ubuntu on them, but I'm not allowed to install it.09:29
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dooglusI could use the live CD, but then I can't keep my files anywhere.  So...09:29
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Remydooglus  - keep a live CD handy next to each one ?09:29
Remy:-P09:29
zcat[1] dooglus: when I find a good set of XL-like icons I'll build up a WinXP theme for gnome you can have..09:29
Remyor alternatively setup dual boot09:30
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Remy!dual boot09:30
ubotuRemy: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:30
dooglusis there any way I can make a big file in the NTFS file system of the PC, then make a Linux filesystem in that big file?09:30
zcat[1] I used to dual boot.. Linux and FreeBSD :)09:30
ompaulwaky, did you try these instructions for Ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:30
dooglusapparently it's safe to write NTFS so long as you don't create, delete, rename or change the size of files...09:30
WarOfAttritionwinxp theme? yuk!09:30
dooglusso what I suggest should be possible, and safe.  but how do I do it?09:30
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WarOfAttritionI recommend you not mess with ntfs writing in linux09:30
wakyompaul i use dapper an a ati 9600 Xt but the Xorg7 make many trouble09:31
ompauldooglus, it ain't - you cant write to NTFS using Ubuntu09:31
spikebdooglus: a better idea would be to carry around a livecd and usb stick09:31
wakyso now i like to install the new driver but a error09:31
degreezhey does anyone know where its possible to play graphic accelerated 32-bit games in ubuntu?09:31
dooglusWarOfAttrition: apparently the tricky bit of NTFS is in creating and deleting files, or changing their sizes.  modifying existing files is apparently quite safe.09:31
ompaulwaky, that page I showed you is how to do it in ubuntu09:31
wakyok09:31
wakythanks09:31
ompaul**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then09:31
intelikeydooglus run the live save to usb key  or cdrw ?09:31
degreez*/whether09:31
zcat[1] dooglus: no, the tricky bit with ntfs IS REINSTALLING WINDOWS AFTER lINUX TOTALLY TRASHES IT.. WHICH IT TENDS TO DO.09:31
zcat[1] Oops, sorry about caps.09:32
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Remydooglus - spikeb's suggestion is a pretty good one :)09:32
RemyUSB thumb drives are usually a simple plug n play matter09:32
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ompaulzcat[1] , most unlike you :-)09:32
WarOfAttritionmodifying their filemanes maybe dooglus? it's experimental at best, if you care about preserving the files there I would say don't even mess with that, just mount read only ntfs09:32
zcat[1] use a usb drive or move things over the network with samba.. you'll save yourself a world of hurt.09:32
dooglusRemy: hmmm.  I don't have a USB key though.  I guess I could buy one, but arent' they quite limited in size?  like to 2 or 4 Gb?09:32
Remydooglus - yup09:33
khermansdooglus, just use gmail and mail them to yourself!09:33
spikebyeah, but all you're doing is saving to it, not installing on it09:33
zcat[1] switching screens.. I have a big17" on my laptop so the screen's not right in front of me. makes typing hard.09:33
intelikeysimmer down ompaul .......09:33
WarOfAttritionbut still the performance when reading ntfs files on linux is horrible, you're better off copying them to linux and using them there09:33
Remydooglus - if you want to lash out a couple a hundred $ you could always buy a laptop size external hdd09:33
dooglusWarOfAttrition: I mean to make a single large file in NTFS, and use it as a Linux filesystem.  As far as NTFS is concerned it's a single large file.09:33
dooglusRemy: hmmm.  I already did.  :)  I wonder where I put it...09:34
dooglusRemy: I've got a feeling I left it about 1000 miles away from where I am now.09:34
ompaulintelikey, I didn't touch him, I was merely surprised09:34
intelikeydooglus like an iso maybe ?09:34
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Remydooglus - something like : http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/4469819807086d3c2741c0a87f9c06ef/Product/View/XH825309:34
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zcat[1] that's better. main machine, nice keyboard..09:34
Remylol09:34
intelikey:)09:35
dooglusintelikey: you can just "mkfs" on any file you like I think.  it doesn't have to be a /dev/hda1 or some such.09:35
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zcat[1] I got 4 17" crt's today for $2 each.. it of a bargain I thought..09:35
zcat[1] *bit09:35
Remywow09:35
Remycan't wait for 17" lcd's to be that cheap :D09:35
WarOfAttritiondo they work?09:35
zcat[1] yeah, one's got a bit of arcing but that's easyily fixed09:36
dooglusRemy: oh, I see.  I misunderstood... my external HDD is about the same size as a laptop, not a laptop's hdd :)09:36
degreezthey must have been diving into a pool off those monitors.09:36
WarOfAttritionprobably stolen :))09:36
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zcat[1] everyon's moving to LCD's ..09:37
asdxI moved to LCD's09:37
WarOfAttritionnot me09:37
degreezwhat do u think is the next step after LCD;s anyone here of any new upcoming technology?09:37
asdxbut my brother says LCD's sucks for gamers09:37
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WarOfAttritionLCDs show about 2/3 the colors of CRT09:37
untungnext after lcd is organic lcd09:37
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zcat[1] So now I can flog off all my old 15" monitors on trademe ..09:37
asdxorganic lcd?09:37
intelikeydooglus yes that's what i was saying.   dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile.iso count=97654487 && mkisofs bigfile.iso then you can mount ir rw use is when finished if you like burn to disk from either side....09:37
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zcat[1] oled ?09:38
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untungsony has make some for camera09:38
degreezzcat, whats this trademe site u speak off?09:38
zcat[1] NZ's version of ebay09:38
degreezgot a link09:38
zcat[1] trademe.co.nz09:38
degreezare u from nz?09:38
WarOfAttritionI'd rather have a plasma screen anyways09:38
eduedixhow can i use trq layout in xorg ? i still cant type some characters09:38
dooglusintelikey: I'd probably use ext3 instead of isofs09:39
zcat[1] (also check out the tardme.co.nz parody site..)09:39
untunghttp://www.audioholics.com/techtips/specsformats/organic_OLEDs_1.htm09:39
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watson540wel shit gtk 2.8 and 2.6 both give me compile errors09:39
watson54011 wtf09:39
watson540111109:39
watson540anyone kno0w a repo that offers gtk2?09:39
watson540cuz mine dont09:39
dooglusintelikey: the machines are on the LAN, so I wouldn't need to burn the files.  heh, in fact why don't I just use a server on the LAN for file storage :)09:39
watson541shit guys!!09:39
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degreezyeh i helped a mate setup a 42"plasma on the weekend, he was playing a game in 1280x1240, latest panasonic design.. size is incredible, contrast and texture is still somewhat unstable.09:39
watson541for some reason none of my repos offer gtk2!! and both versions 2.8 and 2.6 gice different frigging compile errors!! what a piece of jiunk09:40
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doogluswatson541: what errors?09:40
untungsamsung has announced the largest OLED  http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/emergingtech/0,39020357,39155141,00.htm09:40
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watson541gdk-pixbuf-alias.h:387: error: 'gdk_pixdata_to_csource' aliased to undefined symbol 'IA__gdk_pixdata_to_csource'09:40
watson541make[4] : *** [gdk-pixbuf.lo]  Error 109:41
watson541that one for 2.609:41
WarOfAttritionI've seen pretty perfect plasmas, you got to be loaded to get them though09:41
watson541make[4] : Leaving directory `/media/hdc6/gtk+-2.6.0/gdk-pixbuf'09:41
watson541although i still think i have gtk, just not 2.6 i think its versio n 2.409:41
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watson541this erropr is killing me though!!! i never had so much problem compiling something!@!!09:41
zcat[1] Probably going to be 2deg. again tonight.. I should leave all these CRT's on just to keep the place warm..09:41
untunghi, anyone know how to rotate screen in ubuntu?09:41
untungi want to set up my lcd in vertical view09:42
watson541Running aclocal...09:42
watson541aclocal: configure.in: 123: macro `AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library09:42
intelikeydooglus that's what i've been saying about linux for years now.   there is your way, my way, and probably a better way.   but not a "right way"  that falls to preferance....09:42
watson541that friggin error!! i see SOOO many posts about it on google but NONE mentiopn how to fix it!!!09:42
intelikey:_09:42
watson541 opnly resolution i saw was to run aclocal manuallly but it didnt work09:42
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Managerubun209:42
WarOfAttritionhow does reiserfs compare to ext309:42
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mutantereiserfs is supposedly better if you have a large number of small files09:43
mutantesaid some test i had to take09:43
watson541dooglus: and i installed pretty much every gtk dev pkg i could find and anything i considered remotely feasable to my application09:43
zcat[1] WarOfAttrition: I've been told it's better but I can't really tell the difference..09:43
WarOfAttritionbetter in performance?09:43
intelikeyWarOfAttrition about the same. @ <WarOfAttrition> how does reiserfs compare to ext309:44
mutantedepending on the average size of your files09:44
mutanteone or the other is performing better..afaik09:44
zcat[1] supposed to be a bit better, faster cos it's designed as a journalling FS, ext3 is  hack on top of ext209:44
slackernreiserfs is really slow to mount if you have big partitions09:44
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WarOfAttritionI see09:45
slackernThis time i reinstalled i went with reiserfs instead of ext3 and mounting a 200gb partition takes maybe 10 seconds, it's not too bad but enough compared to ext309:45
zcat[1] You'd probably have to run benchmarks to tell the difference, you won't really notice it in ordinary use..09:45
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mutanteWarOfAttrition: any plans of booting multiple OSes though?09:46
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doogluswatson541: did you try using a different version of autoconf?09:46
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WarOfAttritionnot on the same hard disk, maybe just different distrubutions of lin09:46
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doogluswatson541: I use reiserfs on all my partitions, and have never had any problems with it, but several people have told me I shouldn't.09:46
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doogluswatson541: apparently ext3 is safer in some way, and not noticeably slower for common tasks09:47
watson541dooglus: wrong person :)09:47
doogluswatson541: you begin with a 'wa' - that's close enough for irssi :)09:47
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watson541dooglus: ;p;09:47
watson541dooglus: lol09:47
zcat[1] dorel_: yeah, whatever..09:47
watson541dooglus: i know good ol nick completion09:47
mutanteWa != wa for irssi09:47
slackernusing bootchart my mounting starts after ~17 seconds of bootup and the mounting is done at 31 seconds.09:48
intelikeyall i know is rieserfs on this 10k uw scsi hdd will make the cpu cry uncle....09:48
watson541dooglus: except im used to rizon where everyone is dumb and dont know about nick compleytion :)09:48
doogluswatson541: I think 'wa' == 'Wa' for irssi.  even if I type "Wa"<TAB> it still completes to your name, not WarOfAttrition's09:48
watson541dooglus: although itd be nice if you're genius brain could figger my problem out :)09:48
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mutanteif i type Wa<tab> i get09:48
mutanteWarOfAttrition:09:48
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watson541dooglus: yeah irssi completions is awesome , if someone has a nick such as [ex] watson i can ust type exw and TAB to complete it :)09:49
watson541Irssi 0.8.10 (20060326) - http://irssi.org/09:49
watson541:)09:49
dooglusI thought 'wa<TAB>' was supposed to complete to the 'wa...' nick who spoke most recently, but even when WarOfAttrition had just spoken it was still completing to watson541.09:49
mutanteIrssi: Client: irssi 0.8.10 (20051211 0941) .hmmm09:49
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watson541dooglus: yah not sure bro, just keep hitting tab, you'll get there evntually :)09:50
WarOfAttritiondooglus, here it gives a list of all names starting with wa if you do that09:50
watson541its probbaly an alias you can set09:50
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intelikeyin bx if i type Wa  or  wa and tab i get a list of all wa* Wa* WA* nicks.09:50
watson541seeing as there is soo much configurability to irssi09:50
WarOfAttritionI have to put in more than two letters09:50
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mutanteoh wow, that seems to be it indeed, it picks the one who spoke most recently09:51
watson541i can just tab thru my nicks tilli  gte the one i need09:51
zcat[1] intelikey: xchat's the same.. if more than one matches it shows all of them and I type a few more letters..09:51
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WarOfAttritionbut xchat doesnt make them selectable does it?09:51
watson541xchat can burn in hell lol09:51
zcat[1] nope..09:51
chari0tI'm using xchat, and I can hit tab and it cycles thru names09:51
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WarOfAttritionI must be using an old version then09:51
intelikeyyeah depneds on the uniqueness of the leters.09:51
asdxi'm using mirc09:52
doogluschari0t: I can do that in irssi too, but it involves looking at what I'm typing...09:52
chari0toh yeah. there's that09:52
zcat[1] I think epic cycles thought them.. can't remember09:52
watson541dooglus: so no more bright idead on my gtk problem?09:52
zcat[1] gonna have to go soon anyhow09:52
doogluswatson541: try a different version of autoconf09:52
WarOfAttritionso xchat sucks?09:52
watson541dooglus: ok09:52
WarOfAttritionwhat's the best irc client?09:53
intelikeychari0t that is adjustable in xchat  by entering it's setup and selecting/deselecting  "old style nick completion"09:53
WarOfAttritionlinux I mean09:53
watson541i need to look into changing my nick comletion so it looks prettier instead of just putting a : after the name09:53
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asdxWarlord384: mIRC09:53
chari0toh. = )09:53
mutantehehe09:53
mutanteanother nick complete;)09:53
zcat[1] I know a guy who used to just telnet into the servers..09:53
watson541haha check THIS out!09:53
watson541~/ apt-get remove autoconf09:54
watson541Reading package lists... Done09:54
watson541Building dependency tree... Done09:54
watson541The following packages will be REMOVED: autoconf automake1.4 kde kdevelop3 kdevelop3-data kdevelop3-plugins09:54
intelikeybest ?    best is subjective.   but of course it's bx09:54
watson541is apt getting retarded on me ?!09:54
intelikey:)09:54
mutantethe "best irc client" would probably be one you have written yourself, everything else sucks, but some things suck less,like irssi09:54
intelikeyit's always what ever you are using.09:54
doogluswatson541: you don't need to remove the other version09:54
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WarOfAttritionwhat makes irssi good?09:54
watson541ok ill just (try) build the latest source09:54
mutanteWarOfAttrition: the nick autocomplete ;)09:55
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mutanteWarOfAttrition: that you can run it on text-console inside "screen" on a remote shell, making bouncers obsolete09:55
s|k WarOfAttrition it's also highly configurable09:55
WarOfAttritionmutante<-- yea looks like this version only gives you one nick in autocomplete, not a run through all of them09:55
intelikeywatson541 dpkg -P the package and install the later verstion09:55
doogluswatson541: I'm sorry, I meant automake, not autoconf.  get 'automake1.7'09:56
Pimpshizzledhey folks09:56
watson541ok09:56
asdxnice09:56
asdxi like the new irssi logo http://www.irssi.org/images/irssitop.png09:56
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mutanteWarOfAttrition: it can be extended heavily using perl scripts09:56
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doogluswatson541: http://enlightenment.sourceforge.net/Enlightenment/Get_Enlightenment/Build_Notes/ has a list of recommended versions of various packages.  check you've got the versions it lists09:56
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s|kno other irc client even comes close to it09:57
Pimpshizzledlooks like i burned my install cd too quick, i think that may be causing my installation problems09:57
zcat[1] nope.. epic just gives me a list of the matching names too, doesn't tab through them either09:57
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Pimpshizzledcan any of u guys suggest a good speed for this type of thing?09:57
mutanteand no,it doesnt have a GUI, but IRC is text-based anyways09:57
s|kand I was a long time mirc user, then xchat, then I switched to irssi09:57
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doogluss|k: my biggest gripe with irssi is lack of documentation09:57
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zcat[1] Pimpshizzled: I do mine at 16x and never have a problem09:57
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duckdownHow can I get the VGA font to work in gnome terminal, or how do I select it?  I have installed xfonts-dosemu which installs the appropriate vga.pcf.gz files, but I don't know how to activate or choose them!09:57
doogluss|k: it's hard to write scripted extensions for it because the documentation is so crappy09:57
s|kdooglus: /help command is helpful09:57
Pimpshizzledmine was set to max =S lol09:57
WarOfAttritionmirc is still imprinted on me, so I just went with xchat at first, haven't changed since, time to try more I guess09:57
s|kdooglus: oh, the api I don't know anything about09:57
mutantes|k: but there are usually helpful #irssi channels09:58
zcat[1] If you want to be sure, use 8x but almost any drive these days will read a 16x burn..09:58
doogluss|k: I was trying to write an on-the-fly spell checked for irssi, but I couldn't work out how to get the contents of the input buffer from a script.09:58
s|kWarOfAttrition: with irssi you can stay logged on to irc even if you log out of gnome09:58
s|kWarOfAttrition: and with ssh you can login to your computer from somewhere else09:59
doogluss|k: there is a #irssi on freenode, but it's far from helpful.  I've tried asking a few times, but it's either silent or full of smug-yet-unhelpful types09:59
watson541well i dont know if this is better or not haha, i got the SAME error plus a FEW more this time haha09:59
mutantedooglus: try the one on Efnet some time09:59
s|kdooglus: they've been pretty helpful with me in #irssi :/09:59
dlokHi, I installed Ubuntu on a Acer Travelmate 4101, and I have no internet access.. there is this same issue in the laptop suport group at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerTravelmate4101WLMI .. is there any fix ??09:59
watson541aclocal:configure.in:17: warning: macro `AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library09:59
watson541aclocal:configure.in:18: warning: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library09:59
watson541Running autoheader...09:59
watson541Running autoconf...09:59
watson541configure.in:17: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_ENABLE_SHARED If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation.09:59
watson541configure.in:18: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL09:59
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watson541seems like its impossible..grrr09:59
dooglusWarOfAttrition: I use irssi inside a 'screen' session on a server in France.  so even when I switch my ubuntu machine off, I'm still on IRC.09:59
zcat[1] watson541: pastebin it?09:59
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dooglusWarOfAttrition: I can re-attach to the remote 'screen' session from wherever I am.  It's a lot more convenient than xchat.10:00
s|kI have a box set up just for screen + irssi that I can log into10:00
watson541zcat[1] : too late now :910:00
intelikeyit makes me MAD when you are looking an app over and hit it's help button or type /help and it starts opening a web browser and looking for a web site.....  if i wanted to go to a web page i know how. i don't want some stupid app doing it for me.  and if they are not going to supple a doc then don't supply a button/command !10:00
zcat[1] watson541: well.. for next time anyhow.. ops don't like you pasting in here :)10:00
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watson541zcat[1] : noted...10:00
mutanteWarOfAttrition: and if thats not enough, there is even irssi-proxy which would allow you to temporarily use MIRC at some friends (or internet cafe) windows box to connect INTO your running irssi session with Mirc (or any other client)10:00
Managerwhy does it make you mad intelikey, when it means you have access to the most up to date info?10:00
bakertHey guys, can I use "paginate" to paginate things that are NOT coming from an ActiveRecord model?10:01
Pimpshizzledonce ive finished ripping this, shall i start from the beginning with my install, or shall i just let it try and install those packages it couldnt load from the last disc?10:01
zcat[1] Manager: what if you want to look up the help and you're not online?10:01
dooglusI would rather have the help button take me to a web page than not have a help button at all.10:01
WarOfAttritionnice, so you can park your nick forever10:01
mutanteindeed10:01
Managerzcat[1] , most people seem to be online these days if they have a computer and are doing something important10:02
watson541a help button in LINUX?!10:02
watson541hrm...10:02
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dooglusWarOfAttrition: you can register your nick with nickserv anyway, so that's not a big problem.10:02
watson541i always like 'man' myself10:02
s|kWarOfAttrition: if you don't like irssi if you try it, you can install mirc with wine10:02
s|kit runs fnie10:02
s|kfine*10:02
dlokHi, I installed Ubuntu on a Acer Travelmate 4101, and I have no internet access.. there is this same issue in the laptop suport group at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerTravelmate4101WLMI .. is there any fix ??10:02
intelikeyManager i thought i just explained that.   and for another thing, i might not even be online at the time....10:02
watson541s|k: mirc always crashed after a while for me, not to mention it being a TOTAL resource hog10:02
watson541maybe it was the 'script' i was usuing though10:02
s|kwatson541: well I just installed it, I never actually tried to use it seriously10:02
watson541seems every time i fired up a DCC it would die10:02
Managerintelikey do the benefits of having offline access outweigh the benefits of having the most up to date info?10:03
s|kirssi is irreplacable for me10:03
watson541i can do more thru irssi than mirc plus its 1337 :)10:03
zcat[1] dlok: what kind of web access? wifi or rj45?10:03
intelikeyManager mainly because automatic=/me is perturbed <piriod>10:03
s|kwatson541: I run irssi on a 128 mb slackware machine, that's all it does10:03
watson541dooglus: maybe i should install a newr aclocal?10:03
WarOfAttritionI don't like wine, I always have problems with it10:03
zcat[1] oops.. gotta go pick up family..10:03
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dlokzcat[1]  rj4510:04
s|kwatson541:  I use my ubuntu dapper to connect to it through ssh10:04
s|k:)10:04
Managerwhat does that mean intelikey10:04
Pimpshizzledtnx for your help today zcat10:04
watson541yah i need to look into setting up ssh on irssi10:04
doogluswatson541: which module are you building that gives you the problem?10:04
Pimpshizzledtake care10:04
watson541i want to setup ssh on my box period..10:04
intelikeyManager yep.  if the app is a year old i don't want docs talking about thing that the app doesn't have or omiting things it has but have sense been droped.10:04
s|kwatson541: it's pretty easy sudo apt-get install ssh10:04
duckdownNobody here uses a VGA font in gnome-terminal? :O10:04
doogluswatson541: there's not much to it - just install package openssh-server and you're done.10:04
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watson541dooglus: its a few because i tried excluding this certain one from bulding and another one spit out the same error, but its 'evas'10:04
Managerintelikey i'd like to commission you for a project10:05
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watson541dooglus: heh, that pkg is ironically already on my box, but to set it up....10:05
intelikeyi don't really need anything else to do Manager, hehhe.  but thanks anyway.10:06
Managerintelikey, do you have any ideas for how i can earn a bit of cash outside of my day job?10:06
dlokHi, I installed Ubuntu on a Acer Travelmate 4101, and I have no internet access.. there is this same issue in the laptop suport group at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerTravelmate4101WLMI .. is there any fix ??10:06
chari0t-suddenly interested in advice-10:07
doogluswatson541: I'm trying to build it now.10:07
doogluswatson541: I get an error: "aclocal: configure.in: 17: macro `AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library" :)10:07
watson541it should fail during make i think10:07
watson541dooglus: so you think its 'broken' for ubuntu?10:07
intelikeyManager there is a proven formula for that.  "find a need, and fill it."10:07
doogluswatson541: I'll look itoit10:08
doogluswatson541: I'll look into it10:08
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watson541dooglus: i appreciate it although im not sure how much good it will do :)10:08
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Managerintelikey - what kind of needs do you think need filling, and which i might be able to fill?10:08
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watson541im running a bare DR17 now , the one from freedesktop.org but its a few months outdated10:09
watson541and so much work has been added to CVS since then :(10:09
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watson541got my animated wallpaper going and stuff..its sweeet10:09
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doogluswatson541: I've build e17 from CVS before, but didn't really see what it gave me that other window managers don't.10:10
watson541dooglus: just eye candy :)10:10
dooglusI use xfce4 most of the time.  what's special about e17?10:10
intelikeyManager you know far more about your abelities than i do.  also consider what you can and can't do then just look around at what people are in "need" and/or want of.   it's not hard.  you can do it.10:10
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watson541the latest eye candy is nice way different from e1610:11
Skiddles^Raah!10:11
watson541the way the window 'flashes' when you switch to it and junk like that10:11
freakabcdhow do i veiw packages within a certain repository inside synaptic?10:11
PORDOwhen i try to log in, it hangs unless i use failsafe.  other users can log in.  what files can i remove if i just want it to work like it does with failsafe?10:11
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eduedixhowto fix this : root@ebuntu:/usr/src# module-assistant prepare10:11
watson541i havent trid xfce ion over 5 years10:11
eduedix apt-get  install linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic10:11
eduedixE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:11
WarOfAttritionwow, I just started using linux in january10:12
Skiddles^I'm having problems starting the X server thing, I think there's something with my config10:12
Skiddles^http://singaporekid.munki.org/xorg.conf10:12
watson541eduedix: sounds like you have another 'apt' process open10:12
WarOfAttritionthere's always fluxbox10:12
watson541ot synapticor wtf ever you use :)10:12
eduedixwatson541, ah ok :P10:12
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dooglusPORDO: get rid of ~/.gnome* I guess.  do "mkdir ~/backup; mv ~/.gnome* ~/backup"10:13
watson541WarOfAttrition: why? fluxbox have much eye candy?10:13
intelikeyeduedix close synaptic and try again10:13
WarOfAttritionnah, I was saying about the mention of xfce, if you want tiny, fluxbox is even smaller10:13
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watson541WarOfAttrition: i dont want tiny i want eye ypopping candy :010:13
intelikeyeduedix also if that is the whole command you posted.... sudo it.10:14
james_ok i need some real help i follow the wiki for ndiswrapper and i still can not get my wifi card to run10:14
james_can anyone help me10:14
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WarOfAttritionmaybe a 3d desktop?10:14
watson541WarOfAttrition: sure :)10:15
watson541maybe i should go check out luminocity10:15
watson541but i really love e17 its come a LOOONG way10:15
james_can anyone help me10:15
watson541check out the sources on freedesktop,org they're buildabe10:15
kevorWhen i login with a second login on my computer, i have no theme (icons are ugly, ugly bards, ugly buttons and windnows) how can i fix this?10:16
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WarOfAttritionI suspect that when vista is finally released, or even if linux gets a stable 3d desktop by default, more people will use it about a week then use something flat...10:16
watson541kevor: you have to set a theme for each user haha10:16
Skiddles^:/10:16
kevorwatson541: it's the same user, just logged in twice10:16
watson541kevor: unless you copy over configs from yoiur other user :)10:16
watson541logged in twice in X?? why??10:16
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kevorwatson541: remote login? :)10:17
unix_infideldoes ubuntu ship with skype, or is there a 3rd party repo where i can get it.10:17
james_ok can anyone please help me =(10:17
watson541pkevmaybe its a remoe login hing then..to conserve bandwidth10:17
kevorunix_infidel: skype is not GPL licenced10:17
DBOjames_, just ask =)10:17
james_i did10:17
james_i am haveing  a problem with ndiswrapper10:17
james_i followed the wiki10:17
unix_infidelkevor: which is why i said is there a 3rd party repo where i can get the binary.10:17
james_and still nothing10:17
kevorwatson541: it's not, even when i login with xnest locally, it's nasty.10:17
DBOoh I see now, me no do wifi10:17
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PORDOthanks dooglus10:17
james_aaaaaaaaahhhhh10:17
james_thanks dbp10:17
james_sbo10:17
Pimpshizzledyaya \m/ ripping finally complete, time to try again!!! w00t ^-^10:18
james_dbo10:18
kevorunix_infidel: if i remember correctly, you can get it from their website, let me check it, hold please10:18
Pimpshizzledtoodles10:18
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unix_infidelkevor: nvm.10:18
unix_infideli got it.10:18
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kevorunix_infidel: good luck :)10:18
james_can anyone in here help me with wifi10:18
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doogluswatson541: install 'libtool' - that should solve your problem.10:20
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dooglus!wifi10:20
ubotuwifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto10:20
shimingirc.freenode.net10:20
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james_ubotu i used it did what it says10:21
ubotujames_: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:21
james_still haveing a problem10:21
james_ok i have a wiki, that i am going thur 3 times now step by step the driver loads and no errors but i still can not get it to see the card10:22
DBOjames_, ubotu is a robot10:22
james_ok10:22
james_thanks for that10:22
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YoussefAssadyou mean, ubotu is, like, totally, a robot10:22
DBOYoussefAssad, yeah, motor oil drinking, children eating robot10:23
DBOjames_, what card exactly?10:23
Bilford_ubotu test10:23
ubotuFailed.10:23
YoussefAssadlike, totally, yea :)10:23
Bilford_lol10:23
james_network everywhere nwp11b10:23
Bilford_ubotu what time is it10:23
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, Bilford_10:23
WarOfAttritionyou should see the bots on yahoo chat, people have long conversations with them10:23
kevorWhy are my theme options not applied when i login twice with the same users. (No icons, no themed buttons/bars)10:23
Bilford_lol10:23
ompaul!bot10:23
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.10:23
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WarOfAttritionthen you have bots chatting up other bots10:24
Bilford_cool10:24
Bilford_maybe theyre plotting something10:24
WarOfAttritionyea, maybe for about 5 minutes, then it's lame just like yahoo chat10:24
DBOskynet talk to #ubuntu-offtopic10:24
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Manager!bot10:25
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.10:25
Skiddles^Boo10:26
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Manager!ubotu help10:26
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dlokHi, I installed Ubuntu on a Acer Travelmate 4101, and I have no internet access.. there is this same issue in the laptop suport group at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerTravelmate4101WLMI .. is there any fix ??10:26
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PORDOdoh, i had a .profile line starting esd.10:28
ompaul!tell dlok about ndiswrapper10:28
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kevorAnyone can help me with my login problem, all my themes with double login look like this : www.kev0r.nl/why.png10:28
ompauldlok, that might help, no promises10:28
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WarOfAttritionscrewed up apt again, this is mysterious!10:29
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WarOfAttritiondpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:10:29
WarOfAttrition field name `lesystem' must be followed by colon10:29
YoussefAssaddlok: what chipset is it?10:29
eduedixthere is no enemy-territory in ubuntu ?10:29
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ompaulkevor, your pulling stuff via NX that is the far end machine10:30
Bilford_Im going to try a fresh install of Kubuntu10:30
kevorompaul: i know, but even locally with a dual login (same user)_with xnest it gets like this10:30
WarOfAttritionnot apt I meant dpkg, what is wrong with it and how did that happen?10:30
WarOfAttritionis that normal or did something funny happen?10:30
PORDOanyone here live in portland?10:30
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WarOfAttritionI have "lesystem ACLs present10:32
WarOfAttrition in some operating systems (GNU/Linux included)." at the beginning of /var/lib/dpkg/available and dpkg does not work, what is that about, anyone know?10:32
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tomtashow can i get my soundblaster audigy 4 to work ?10:33
dooglusWarOfAttrition: it looks like that file has been damaged.  It should read "Description: module for manipulating POSIX.1e ACLs pylibacl is a python interface to the libacl library. It allows manipulation of the POSIX.1e-compliant filesystem ACLs present10:34
ompaulkevor, what every machine your attaching to controls that "background" as for the tgzs on the desktop that account has them there- I am at a loss as to what you are actually expecting10:34
proconsulwtf is up this this stock ticker applet?10:34
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proconsulis it a toy ?10:34
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ompaulit is for tracking the price of a share10:35
proconsul*with10:35
kevorompaul: it's solved, turns out "gnome-settings-daemon" doesnt run with a dual login10:35
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proconsulompaul, well i give it a stock symbol and it doesnot do shi&10:35
kevorrun it -> it's good again10:35
dooglusWarOfAttrition: I think "sudo dselect update" should fix it, according to the dpkg man page10:36
PORDOanyone know of a speakerphone, like the mvox mv100, that works for linux (preferably usb).10:36
golledgehello, i have just changed my graphics card and my X doesnt work. i have changed the driver from nvidia to vesa that didnt help. is there a setup program i can use to reconfigure X from the command line10:37
ompaulproconsul, you don't need to hint at bad language, you could just articulate it as - it appears to be faulty, is the market its pointing to open more than 20 minutes most of them have a delay due to some "information restriction"10:37
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dooglusgolledge: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:37
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golledgedooglus thankyou very much10:37
ompaulproconsul, I just started here and its working away10:38
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Pimpshizzledheeeeey :)10:38
Pimpshizzledthank u everyone who advised me in setting up ubuntu10:38
Pimpshizzled=D im now talking to you from it10:38
dooglusPimpshizzled: you installed it already?  nice work!10:39
Pimpshizzledpleased as punch ^_^10:40
Pimpshizzledhooked itself up to the network for me and everything10:40
WarOfAttritiondooglus<-- thanks for that, that seemed to do it, but it's a mystery how that happened. maybe it was all the hard shutdowns10:40
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dooglusPimpshizzled: now you just have to get mp3 playback working, video playback working, the flash plugin and java plugin installed, and all that other proprietary/patented stuff that ubuntu aren't allowed to ship10:40
dooglusWarOfAttrition: what filesystem to do you?10:40
dooglus*do you use*?10:40
Pimpshizzledgulp10:40
Pimpshizzledlol10:40
WarOfAttritiondooglus<-- ext310:41
Pimpshizzledi heard that xmml or something like that sets up mp3?10:41
dooglusWarOfAttrition: I've never tried ext3.  I use reiserfs and do a hard shutdown every time I try to shutdown10:41
ompaulPimpshizzled, na10:41
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dooglusWarOfAttrition: I don't think it's ever damaged any files, but I can't be sure10:41
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dooglusWarOfAttrition: check out the link that ubotu is about to tell you:10:41
dooglus!restrictedformats10:41
ubotumethinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats10:41
WarOfAttritionwell... I've tried some really funky stuff on this OS10:41
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dooglusPimpshizzled: I meant to address you there.10:42
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WarOfAttritionin fact I'm surprised it's still going10:42
dlokhow can I update from Breezy to Flight 7 without a internet conection???10:42
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Pimpshizzleddooglus10:44
Pimpshizzlederr, should i use easy ubuntu10:44
Pimpshizzledapparently that sets all the little things like that for me?10:44
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dooglusPimpshizzled: I've never tried it, but whenever anyone mentions it here about 5 people say "no, don't do it, it's bad, man!"10:46
dooglus!easyubunut10:46
ubotudooglus: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:46
dWhats some desktops/wm's i wouldnt know about?10:46
dooglus!easyubuntu10:46
ubotuwell, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.10:46
WarOfAttritiondooglus<--  the link about restricted formats, are you saying that those things may mess things up?10:46
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dooglusWarOfAttrition: no, I was trying to talk to Pimpshizzled and got his name badly wrong, sorry.10:46
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dooglusPimpshizzled: actually, I was thinking of automatix - that's the one people say not to use.  I don't know about easyubuntu10:47
d!ubuntu enterprise edition10:47
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, d10:47
dooglusd: ratpoison?10:47
Pimpshizzledok10:47
Pimpshizzledill try easyubuntu10:47
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WarOfAttritionwell I guess it will remain a mystery then, at least I know how to fix it if it repeats10:47
Pimpshizzledi guess someone has to10:47
dil ahve a look10:47
ddooglus10:48
seliniumPimpshizzled: just follow the wiki sent by ubotu. It isn't difficult, and you will learn a little more on how Ubuntu works :)10:48
dooglusd: it's like 'screen' only for X apps.10:48
dooglusd: it's a keyboard-operated window manager - it kills the need for the mouse, hence 'rat poison'10:48
dooglusd: check out http://xwinman.org/ for a big list of window managers10:48
PimpshizzledSelinium: ill have a look at the wiki then, brb10:49
Leminoi shall install an additional harddrive under ubuntu. how do I do it? can i just plug it in while the computer is running and expect ubunut to take care of the rest or will I have to reboot?10:49
dsweet thanks dooglus10:49
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Baderhi10:50
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di know this good site:P10:50
BaderI got the following error with Xorg: could not open default cursor font `cursor` (Dapper)10:50
WarOfAttritionwhoa, dont plug in hard drives when the PC is on10:50
dooglusd: the 'others' link there has a big list of window managers I hadn't heard of before10:50
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LeminoWarOfAttrition: ok, thats a good thing to know then ... ;)10:51
dmetisse is good if it was easily skinnable10:51
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overriderwhich runlevel is to start the system without gui / gdm login?10:52
WarOfAttritionshutdown, unplug the power, then install it as a slave10:52
LeminoWarOfAttrition: but when I restart with the drive plugged in, will the computer imediately recongize the disk?10:53
dooglusoverrider: there isn't one by default.10:53
dooglusoverrider: you can use update-rc.d to remove gdm from runlevel 2 if you like - then runlevel 2 is without gdm and runlevel 3 is with it10:54
rem__over -> 310:54
dooglusrem__: is that right?10:54
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overriderdooglus, oh ok thanks10:54
rem__hmm i thought it was 5 with it and 3 without... i might be wrong lemme check ..10:55
WarOfAttritionLemino<-- install it first, then check which device name it has, then you may have to mount it automatically in fstab10:55
dooglusoverrider: what do you see if you run "echo /etc/rc?.d/*gdm" ?10:56
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overriderthey all seems to have it except 0 and 610:58
overriderand 110:58
Pimpshizzledsweet jeebus!10:59
Pimpshizzledlol, ubuntu downloads faster than windows10:59
WarOfAttritionmaybe you had worms downloading in the background in win10:59
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zcat[1] or updates11:00
Pimpshizzledlol, this is looking difficult, but im pretty impressed so far11:01
Pimpshizzledjust need to mess with this synaptic package manager11:01
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animatohello, i'm trying to run quod libet and i'm getting this error " import pygst11:01
animatoImportError: No module named pygst11:02
animato". what am i missing?11:02
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watson541IBSTALL PYGST LOL11:02
rem__clear11:02
animatopygst?11:02
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animatothere's nothing like that in synaptic11:02
watson541not everything is IN synaptic :)11:02
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watson541google it11:03
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animatooh ok11:03
beemanhello guys11:03
animatoi was think maybe it has a different title11:03
animatothanx11:03
beemani just installed my first linux ;)11:03
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beemanubuntu - that is11:03
beemanand I have a problem aleready11:03
watson541beeman: well thats 1/100th of the battle :)11:03
beemanhow to update firefox?11:04
watson541now you justr have to learn to use it :)11:04
beemani downloaded  firefox.tar.gz and unpacked it eith tar -xvzf firefoxbalahbla11:04
WarOfAttritiontrying irssi, not fancying it so far11:04
zcat[1] beeman: click the little update window if/when it pops up, and it will take care of everything that needs updating for you..11:04
beemanzcat i did it!11:05
watson541WarOfAttrition: usually old school irc-ers love irssi..remmeber gay mirc has not always been there since IRC has existed :)11:05
zcat[1] you do not _need_ firefox 1.5 ..11:05
beemanheh and it updated firefox from 1.0.7 to 1.0.811:05
beeman:(11:05
zcat[1] !ff1.511:05
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:05
zcat[1] ok.. that might help11:05
WarOfAttritionwatson541: when I first used irc, mirc was already legendary...11:05
beemanoh ubotu thanks11:05
overrider are there any differences between runlevel 2 and 3?11:06
watson541WarOfAttrition: when i first IRC'ed it was thru ircII and BitchX :)11:06
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watson541over 10 yrs ago11:06
zcat[1] overrider: they have different numbers?11:06
watson541and we wopuld join #mirc on efnet and flame the shit out of them11:06
dooglusI'm running an alpha of firefox 2.0 at the moment.  it seems to work pretty well11:06
overrideryes11:06
zcat[1] overrider: afaik they're identical until you start changing them11:06
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WarOfAttritionwatson541: lucky you, I wasn't even on the internet back then11:06
overrideri wish to remove the gdm of runlevel 2 but i cant yet operate rc-update.d11:07
dooglusftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/bonecho/alpha2/linux-i686/en-US/bonecho-alpha2.tar.gz11:07
watson541WarOfAttrition: u udaled up to .edu shell accounts and irc'ed thru bbs's :)11:07
watson541I*11:07
WarOfAttritionwatson541: sounds like fun11:07
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zcat[1] watson541: mars ?11:07
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WarOfAttritionbut me, I guess I'm just imprinted on the gui forever, I'm "special" and like to look at shiny buttons and colors11:08
beemanlol11:08
beeman sudo apt-get install libstdc++511:08
watson541nah i used a worldgroup bbs, and a unix shell account..i had to learn the hardcore way :)11:08
dooglusoverrider: I'm not sure about update-rc.d myself, either.  you can remove it manually, like this:   "sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm /etc/rc2.d/K01gdm"11:08
beemanthis command doesnt work for me11:08
beemanthe first oine i shall use11:08
beeman:(11:08
beemanapt : command not found11:08
watson541worldgroup is still around too :)11:08
beemanis apt like red hat yum?11:08
DBOyes11:09
doogluswatson541: did you see my message about getting e17 to build?11:09
beemanDBO how to install it?11:09
watson541beeman: no..yum is like apt :)11:09
beemanis it possible not to have it?11:09
beemanlol watso, ok ;)11:09
DBObeeman, "sudo apt-get install <package>"11:09
overriderdooglus, oh ok, so k means like disabled.11:09
watson541dooglus: no i didnt i was afk making my lunch, getting ready to head to work in about 15 minutes :)11:09
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beeman sudo apt-get install libstdc++511:09
beemanthis doesnt work11:10
beemanah shit ill stop flooding and get to some more reading :P11:10
DBObeeman, thats because thats not a package11:10
doogluswatson541: install 'libtool' - that fixed it for me11:10
WarOfAttritionit's actually hard for me to read monospaced chat11:10
watson541dooglus: aww..i already had libtool :(11:11
dooglusoverrider: yes, 'k' as in 'kill' and 's' as in 'start'11:11
beemanim just following those instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:11
doogluswatson541: really?  that fixed it for me11:11
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watson541dooglus: did you get it through apt or sompile a latest version?11:11
watson541compile* even11:11
doogluswatson541: apt11:11
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watson541grr.i will remove it and re-install although i doubt it will help :(11:12
doogluswatson541: run "sudo update-alternatives --config automake" and make sure you select the 1.7 version11:12
DBObeeman, thats really odd, apt-cache search libstdc++ turns up a result for libstdc++5, but if I add the 5 to the search, it no work...11:13
Pimpshizzleddooglus: i opened up all my package manager so i can dig into the stuff they dont want unbuntu to have, and i found 'MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player'11:13
Pimpshizzledis that what i need? ^11:13
dooglusPimpshizzled: that sounds about right.  it's a long time since I installed all that stuff though.  isn't the restrictedformats page telling you what you need to do?11:13
Pimpshizzledyup11:14
beemandamn11:14
Pimpshizzledim following that, but im worried i can make mistakes i cant sort out11:14
watson541ook i have automake 1.9.6 installed but ill try your version :)11:14
DBObeeman, please dont swear here, there are children =)11:14
doogluswatson541: I used 1.7.  I don't know whether newer versions work or not, just that 1.7 worked for me11:15
Pimpshizzledhmmm11:15
Pimpshizzlednow i need to download a mp311:15
Pimpshizzledwhat proggies are good for that?11:15
Pimpshizzledanyone?11:15
Pimpshizzled:P11:15
beemanloL! there is suppose to be no space between apt and -get11:15
beemani used a space11:15
beemanDBO: problem solved11:15
DBObeeman, ah, yes...11:15
beemanthanks for patience :P11:15
BaderPimpshizzled: what is a proggie ?11:15
beemansmall program?11:15
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BaderPimpshizzled: wget is good for downloading11:16
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PimpshizzledBader: ill just get some crap off myspace to test it11:17
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watson541dooglus: awww feck man, i installed automake 1.7.1 same error..im about to give up on it :(11:17
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dooglusPimpshizzled: download http://www.youknowsit.co.uk/lowtech/mp3/delivery_driver.mp3 to test it11:18
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doogluswatson541: I'm using dapper.  I don't know if that makes much difference.  did you check the list of dependencies on the e17 page?11:18
doogluswatson541: make sure you have GNU m4 1.4, autoconf 2.54, automake 1.7, libtool 1.4.3, and gettext 0.11.511:19
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Pimpshizzledlol11:19
spikebheh e17 is not worth the build pain11:19
Pimpshizzledwtf is this?11:19
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PORDOrhythmbox won't play mp3 now. :(11:20
buffalo11:20
buffalo11:20
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watson541spikeb: thats a matter of opinion, and it sounds like yours is coming from someone who has never used e17 :)11:21
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spikebwatson541: yes i have11:21
watson541well it changes daily and its the best eye candy out there today and it surpasses Mac's OSX inmo11:22
spikebyes, it's very pretty.11:22
spikebbut it's not very usable yet11:22
watson541spikeb: i dunno i been running it for about 3 days straight now and it hasnt crashed yet :)11:22
WarOfAttritionpush it to the limit11:23
bilfordjust did a fresh install of Kubuntu11:23
watson541dooglus: looks like i jjust need to update from breezy to dapper, think i could apt-get distro upgrade to dapper?11:23
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spikebat least it builds - it's not _quite_ the duke nukem forever of window managers11:23
WarOfAttritionhmm, that's a good name for a window manager11:24
watson541spikeb: keep in mind its a work in progress and judging by the progress , given a year it will be the best11:24
watson541sure as hell tops 'vista'11:24
spikebwatson541: i know it's a work in progress - has been for a very long time11:24
WarOfAttritionwon't bloatsta have a 3d desktop or somethang11:24
watson541WarOfAttrition: i for one will never find out :)11:25
watson541no desire to11:25
zcat[1] WarOfAttrition: For 99% of the population (OEM users) NO.11:25
watson541spikeb: "rome wasnt built in a day"11:25
WarOfAttritionzcat[1] <-- what do you mean?11:25
spikebi liked it better when it wsa called longhorn, and i could call it nohorn11:25
watson541hell microsoft has been building windows for almost 20 yrs now sooo11:25
spikebor missinghorn11:25
spikebdelayedhorn11:25
spikebheh11:25
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zcat[1] The OEM version of vista won't include the 3d desktop, advanced search, ability to run more than three programs at a time..11:26
bilfordWhy have you always used Linux11:26
Pimpshizzledwoohoo ^_^ got mp3 working on xmms11:26
WarOfAttritionzcat[1] <--  ah, n/m I see what you mean now, I had forgotten about that deal with the million versions they will release11:26
doogluswatson541: the trick is to "sudo update-manager -d" - that will give you the option to update to dapper.11:27
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WarOfAttritionvista home, vista enterprise, vista pantry, vista toaster, vista for pets, etc11:27
dooglusPimpshizzled: did it play OK?11:27
Pimpshizzleddooglus: it did ty =)11:27
spikebvista media center xbox 360 upgrade wireless edition11:28
spikebheh11:28
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watson541i dont have update-manage heh11:28
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WarOfAttritiontry beep media player, it's better than xmms11:28
josemariahola11:28
spikebbarf11:28
watson541getting it though11:28
doogluswatson541: you missed the 'r' off the end?11:28
Pimpshizzledbeep?11:28
Pimpshizzledcan i find that on synaptic?11:28
josemariaholaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa11:28
dooglusPimpshizzled: "sudo apt-get install beep-media-player"11:28
WarOfAttrition(bmp)11:28
dooglusPimpshizzled: or you can search in synaptic, either way11:29
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WarOfAttritionn/m, it's what he said11:29
WarOfAttritionbtw, beep can use winamp classic skins11:29
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RedEyessHi11:30
watson541sweet..'could not calculate upgrade' hahah11:30
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jerwarefellaz11:30
Pimpshizzleddooglus: is all the programs in synaptic up to date?11:30
MrFaberhi all11:30
MrFaberI have problems with the blkid dev library in Dapper. I can't compile util-linux because it didn't find the lib while it is installed. What could be the problem?11:30
RedEyessAnyone here using AMD64 ubuntu, and if so, does it have as many packages as 32 bit ubuntu?11:30
jerwarei have a problem with my wireless connection booting me, at random intervals.11:31
jaaroohello there. My disk is dying due to it's age and my /usr/lib was hit by that corruption. fsck repaired the problem and "wiped out" invalid entries...11:31
jaarooI'd like to know if there is some tool that could check all installed packages for integrity?11:31
watson541ok i have to install 'ubuntu-desktop' first11:31
RedEyesswhat happened watston?11:31
RedEyesswatson11:31
doogluswatson541: it's a good idea to have ubuntu-desktop installed when upgrading, yes11:32
jaarooI mean - check if packages do have all their files and report them if not?11:32
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spikebwhat, it was too stupid to figure out how to upgrade without ubuntu-desktop?11:32
WarOfAttritionok, have to cool off, everyone have a nice day11:32
overriderwhat is similar to /etc/ttys in freebsd in ubuntu? i mean, in ubuntu i cant find it11:32
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dooglusPimpshizzled: all the programs in synaptic were up-to-date when that version of ubuntu was released, meaning they're out of date now.11:32
RedEyesscan't you just configure your /etc/apt/sources.list file11:32
RedEyessto upgrade?11:32
dooglusPimpshizzled: for instance, breezy still has firefox 1.0.2 or something in synaptic, and always will.11:32
dooglusPimpshizzled: dapper will have firefox 1.5.0.something11:33
bilfordDoes Konversation have a way of downloading a list of servers11:33
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Pimpshizzleddooglus: ahhh right, now how easy it to update into the next versions of ubuntu?11:33
dooglusRedEyess: "update-manager -d" will update your sources.list file for you11:33
RedEyessright11:33
dooglusPimpshizzled: it's just a case of running "sudo update-manager -d" apparently.11:33
Pimpshizzled\m/11:33
dooglusPimpshizzled: (assuming you're on breezy already - hoary didn't have that feature)11:34
Pimpshizzledyea, im on breezy11:34
zaydanaanybody know of a php5-mysqli .deb for ubuntu?11:34
Pimpshizzled:)11:34
Pimpshizzledand i likes it a lot =D might be getting rid of windows at this rate11:34
RedEyesssometimes you must install it from scratch11:34
RedEyessnot a .deb file11:34
dooglus!info php5-mysql11:34
ubotuphp5-mysql: (MySQL module for php5), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 100 kB11:34
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spikebgrr11:35
spikebah well, time for bed11:35
doogluszaydana: is that what you mean?  or did you mean 'mysqli'?11:35
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beemanah all worked so fine11:37
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gravesonis it normal for PGP errors with sudo apt-get update11:37
zaydanadooglus: i meant mysqli11:38
beemanone more thing11:38
Pimpshizzledhey folks, now im in ubuntu, does that mean i cannot access the files on a partition on a seperate hard-drive (ie, the one with windows on it)11:38
gravesoni have the normal universe and multiverse in my sources file nothing additional11:38
beemanmy soundcard doesnt work11:38
watson541dooglus: right on bro, the upgrade is going and i have to go to work :) thanks and hope to see you soon....11:38
beemanPimp go read forum FAQs11:38
PORDOrhythmbox is failing to play mp3 :(11:38
beemanits all there11:38
Pimpshizzledkk11:38
dooglusPimpshizzled: no, you can access your windows partition.  if it's NTFS (which it probably is) then you won't be able to write to it, but you can read from it once it's mounted.  see:11:38
beemancommunicating with ntfs partitions etc11:39
dooglus!ntfs11:39
ubotuit has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:39
zaydanadooglus: mysql doesn't have API-based support for mysql prepared queries... so mysqli would be better11:39
doogluswatson541: i hope it works for you!11:39
Pimpshizzledty dooglus11:39
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visik7anyone know if there is a place where I can put debs build for breezy ?11:41
beemangusy what can I do to fix my soundcard? it doesnt work and all communicates say thet it is configured properly11:41
beeman:(11:41
high-freqwould it be safe to enable the community maintained (universe) and non-free (multiverse)  repositories?11:42
Pimpshizzleddooglus: woohooo!!!! this is all too ace +D cheers dude11:42
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dooglusPimpshizzled: you're welcome11:43
high-freqanyone?11:43
dooglusvisik7: what do you mean?  like a website?  or what?11:43
zax1good morning11:44
visik7yes I've some debs usefeull for somebody compiled for breezy but I don't have a website with bandwidth11:44
ompaulhigh-freq, it is usual to do so, multiverse people either take or leave depending on the cycle of the moon and their attitude to Free as in Freedom Software11:44
zax1does any one speak spanish ? i have an error message in spanish i need to translate ?11:44
visik7zax1:11:44
visik7!es11:44
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:44
high-freqaah ok11:44
high-freqi'll enable them then ;011:44
dooglusvisik7: you can get a free one at http://fsphost.com/ if you like.11:45
zax1thank u11:45
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dooglusvisik7: or if you like you can email them to me and I'll upload them to my fsphost site and tell you the URL11:47
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bilfordhm11:47
bilfordKonversation is nice11:47
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octanwhy dont i have /etc/ld.so.conf ??11:49
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octanonly /etc/ld.so.cache and /etc/ld.so.hwcapppkgs11:49
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NET||abusehmm, how well will the upgrade from breezy to dapper go on release?11:50
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NET||abusedo we expect very few bugs, resonably stable?11:50
ompaulNET||abuse, we expect it to be good11:50
void^octan: man ldconfig11:51
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NET||abusei'm thinking of setting up a box to start running my own little snmp network monitor setup, but after i get the basic graphing done, i need to register events in a database, but the db i have to use is mysql5... nd breezy having no libmysqlclient15 available through deb is a kick in the sack11:51
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NET||abusebut if i can get the initial setup and graphing running on breezy and do a worry free upgrade to dapper,,, then it'd take some of the bite out of the whole situation11:52
bobslaedewhy does usbmount want to execute udev_volume_id, and why doesnt that exist?11:52
NET||abusehmm, mustn't have the needed utils package11:53
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octanman ldconfig? that didnt answer my Q void^ . why is ther no such file in dapper11:53
JohnnoDhey guys, i want to get an ubuntu coffee mug for a friend at school, and im in australia and cant pay with a credit card, what can i do ?11:53
ompaul!ldconfig dapper11:53
ubotuompaul: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:53
ompaul!ldconfig11:54
ubotuompaul: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:54
NET||abuseJohnnoD, setup a single payment cc number11:54
JohnnoDi dont understand..11:55
bobslaedewow, i dont have usbmount on my workstation, but what do i use to mount my usbdrives then? the gnome thing?11:55
void^octan: perhaps you have a different manpage. "shared libraries found in the  directories  specified  on  the  command  line,  in  the  file /etc/ld.so.conf, and in the trusted directories (/usr/lib and /lib)."11:55
NET||abuseit's like a credit card coupon, you put a certain amount of money into it, the bank gives you a temporary cc number, and you can spend that online11:55
soonindallashello.  I am looking for a tutorial on how to apply a patch to a package source.  astonishingly there is little info about this in the wiki. can anyone refer me to a howto ?11:55
NET||abuseso you don't need an actual visa/mastercard whatever11:55
JohnnoDoh ok cool11:55
njanNET||abuse, why would you want to setup a server which is supposed to be stable with a version you're not sure about based on the possibility of a worry-free upgrade?11:55
void^octan: in other words, you need it only if you have libraries in other places than /lib and /usr/lib11:55
NET||abuseJohnnoD, talk to your bank about it.11:55
JohnnoDi was dissapointed when it didn't list paypal :(11:55
octanvoid^ and i do,, cos i got some libs in /usr/local/lib11:55
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octanfor mythtv11:56
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void^octan: so put it in ld.so.conf and run ldconfig11:56
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aLeSDhi all11:56
aLeSDhow to reconfigure my sound board ?11:56
NET||abusenjan, well it's more to just get the second part up and running asap.. if the service has interuptions due to problems after the initial upgrade, and not during.. then i have deniability :)11:56
eirena\j comagena11:57
crazy_penguinhi all11:57
NET||abusenjan, it's a numbers game with the guys in here.. if it's the os's fault, then that's ok, fix it and move on.. if it goes into upgrade and never gets working at all again... well then i'm in trouble cause i'm the one doing the upgrade11:57
crazy_penguinhey guys for what are this restricted drivers for?11:57
NET||abusenjan, and i have to use libmysqlclient15..11:57
njanNET||abuse, why don't you wait for a month until dapper comes out and set it up cleanly on that?11:57
njanNET||abuse, dapper has 5 years of support as a server platform, by the time you get around to upgrading it'll be due for replacement.11:58
NET||abusenjan, can't, just happens the deadline for this fits in for one week after dapers new release11:58
ompauloctan, I have it installed on my dapper box ... /sbin/ldconfig11:58
aLeSDsomeone could me suggest a good program to record fot the mic in ?11:58
njanNET||abuse, break the deadline or setup straight after dapper is released. I'd go for the former.11:58
njanNET||abuse, you're better off doing the job properly in the first place11:59
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bobslaedewhat does /sbin/udev_volume_id do? and why is usbmount looking for it, when i dont got it11:59
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njanYou'll probably get away with setting up on a fresh dapper system after release, but I'd avoid it if possible in case there are teething problems.11:59
NET||abuseah it's just a question of time, we have to show something working by end of tomorrow, then come to it later and get the database end working... and inbetween we have too much to do already11:59
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phanterhello there11:59
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njanNET||abuse, you can't really show anything working if the database end doesn't work.12:00
phanterI use a smb server to connect to. Now i deleted something from there, but the content is not in my trashbin. Can i get the info back (i do have a root account on the server)12:00
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NET||abusenjan, we need to be able to walk away from this with proceedures left behind to maintain it(sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; //that kinda lark)12:00
NET||abuseand not have to go back to it again12:00
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njanNET||abuse, you just can't do that.12:00
njanNET||abuse, no system requires that little maintenance.12:01
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NET||abusenjan, obviously i'm understating the proceedures for maintenance, the initial graphing won't be databased, they have another method for that,, it's all been planned by someone else.. i just trying to get it done12:01
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njanNET||abuse, if you need something to show by tomorrow and you need to run this on dapper but have a deadline a week after the dapper release, it hasn't been planned properly.12:02
njanthat or the plan hasn't been followed. In either case, you need to rethink how you're approaching it.12:02
FreshIs there a good p2p program for RedHat?12:02
NET||abusenjan, your telling me :)12:02
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bobslaedeFresh: #redhat or something ;)12:03
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elijahhi all..im new here:)12:03
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ompaulwaky|off, any chance you could use >>/away Reason<< then your not telling 650+ in a channel if someone messages you /uses your nick its easy for them to figure out your not there :)12:03
PORDOholy crap..hibernating works in dapper.12:03
elijahcan anyone tell me.....will fspot photo manager be included in dapper install cd?12:03
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NET||abusePORDO, yep, it's nice12:03
PORDOsick.12:04
PORDOnow they need to clean up the xp-style login behavior.12:04
ompaul**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then12:04
PORDOwhen i go to screensaver, that should pop back up to the login screen.12:04
PORDOif i login, and i'm already logged in, i shoudl be able to make it take away that option to log in anyway, or return to previous login.  it should just return to previous login.12:05
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PORDOi mean, that should at least be optional.12:05
sensoryhey can someone please help me with a syntax to compile uncompress and comile a .tar.gz12:05
PORDOand then when i do return to my previous login, i shouldn't be presented with a screensaver asking for my password again.  arghh12:05
PORDOsensory i don't remember off hand, but it's seriously pretty simple.  google for some examples.12:06
sensorypordo i have and i am returned with errors.12:06
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ompaulsensory, just as a matter of interest have you checked that the program does not already come packaged for Ubuntu?12:07
sensoryif u allow me to paste my return (no it comes in an .rpm12:07
PORDOsensory you might try a gui app.12:07
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PORDOyou don't have to use the command line if you aren't having success with it.12:07
sensoryim trying to install VMware packages.12:07
ompaulsensory, so use paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pastes and I think the bot knows something of vmware12:08
ompaul!vmware12:08
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul12:08
ompaulhmm it seems it does not12:08
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ompaulsensory,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare12:09
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PORDOmy computer fan slows down, and the computer makes CRAZY weird whining noises when i test this one screen saver12:09
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PORDOColorfire.  It's like a sad moaning sound.12:09
PORDObizarre.12:10
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JohnnoDNET||abuse, do banks usually charge for those cc things ?12:11
njanNET||abuse, I know it sounds obvious, but I've worked on lots of projects like that one and you don't do anyone any favours by just doing a shit job.12:11
NET||abuseoh well, i think there's a small comission, depnds though12:11
aLeSDhi My soundboard works but seems that Mic in doesn't. Could someone help me ?12:12
NET||abuseaLeSD, you update to latest alsa?12:12
bobslaede usbmount[21382] : /dev/sda1 does not contain a filesystem or disklabel12:13
bobslaedethats BS12:13
bobslaedewhys does it say that?!12:13
aLeSDdon't know ... I use breezy with a soundblaster live12:13
aLeSDmaybe is only a confiuration problem12:13
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NET||abuseaLeSD, ok, and in volume control is there a mic channel12:13
aLeSDbecause output works good12:13
NET||abusetry alsa-mixer12:14
NET||abuseaLeSD, are you trying to just put the mic straight through to the speakers. or are you trying to sample in with the mic? or what exactly?12:15
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aLeSDNET||abuse: I'm tring to use it with ekiga12:16
aLeSDI noticed that with skype it works ... OSS ... but with ekiga ALSA it doesn't12:16
bobslaedeanybody down with usbmount stuff?12:17
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NET||abusehmm, just try messin with the input devices and things, if it works with skype then it's all to do with the configuration of the software.. there's no driver issues i'd imagine.12:18
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aLeSDis there a configuration tools for alsa ?12:19
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aLeSDsomething like apt-get -configure ...12:20
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RandolphCarterhmm, so hitting cancel during debconf hangs aptitude..12:20
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siccnessNot entirely based on Ubuntu, but does anyone know if MS word opens .odt files?12:21
siccness(open office docs)12:21
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Samuli^sensory, normal compiling goes like ./configure && make && sudo make install12:22
EDIJUScan anyone show me screenshot of Ubuntu Screenshoter?12:22
Ngsiccness: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_applications_supporting_OpenDocument#Third_party_support:_Three_OpenOpenOffice_plug-ins_for_Microsoft_Office12:22
Samuli^you need the build-essential package.12:23
siccnessThanks, Ng.12:23
siccness:)12:23
RandolphCarter./configure --prefix=/usr/local, unless you want to risk annoying aptitude12:23
Samuli^or that's the very least you need.12:23
metataghello all .. i have a problem.. i am trying to share a folder from ubuntu to a windows machine using shared folders in System > Shared Folders .. its set up ok but when I try to access the folder from the windows machine it would not allow me.. there is a lack of permissions problem12:23
EDIJUS can anyone show me screenshot of Ubuntu Screenshoter?12:23
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metataghello all .. i have a problem.. i am trying to share a folder from ubuntu to a windows machine using shared folders in System / Shared Folders .. its set up ok but when I try to access the folder from the windows machine it would not allow me.. there is a lack of permissions problem12:24
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PwcrLinuxHello12:25
EDIJUScan anyone show me screenshot of Ubuntu Screenshoter?12:26
NgEDIJUS: if you're running it, just press the Print Screen button on your keyboard12:26
EDIJUSi am on XP12:27
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EDIJUSi want make the same screenshoter on xp12:27
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NgEDIJUS: ok, then http://www.pointlessrubbish.net/screenie.jpg12:28
EDIJUSNg, thanks :D12:28
metatagEDIJUS, on windows normally u press Print Screen on your keyboard to copy the screen on keyboard12:28
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metatag* i mean clipboard12:29
EDIJUSmetatag, i want make app what makes screenshot and save it to desktop :P12:29
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tony007can i access data from .rar files in linux12:30
sensoryi am still unable to uncompress this file, if someone could please guide me,  below is a short line print..12:30
sensory@ubuntu:~/tools$ tar xvzf VMwareTools-5.5.1-1-19175.tar.gz12:30
sensorytar: VmwareTools-5.5.1-1-19175.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory12:30
sensorytar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now12:30
sensorytar: Child returned status 212:30
sensorytar: Error exiting delayed from previous errors12:30
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Ngtony007: enable the universe and multiverse repositories and there are various rar tools (rar, unrar-nonfree, etc)12:33
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hastesaverHow do I run Windows under VMWare Server? (I know there's KQEmu, but I'd like to try VMWare if possible...)12:34
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Ngsensory: are you sure that archive is in that directory?12:34
Ngsensory: also, please don't paste errors in here, use a pastebin :)12:34
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Nghastesaver: consult vmware's install docs, then install windows inside it. that's kinda outside the scope of this channel really12:35
C|intback, hi all12:35
C|inthey all, I tested gentoo, and SUSE 10.1, just to see if any better than ubuntu, and my results:12:35
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C|intwasn't better than my ubuntu experience :- )12:35
FariSShi12:35
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FariSSanyone could help me12:35
NgFariSS: ask your question, if someone can help, they will :)12:35
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C|intSUSE 10.1 was slower than chit, and I have a fast system, and I'm debian based, so, :)12:36
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FariSSW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)12:36
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sensoryyes, the file is in a hard drive directory, its also got a little padlock icon on top of it (sorry whats a paste bin?)12:36
C|inthi ng12:36
FariSSwhy i get this error12:36
hastesaverNg, I understand that, I wanted to know if someone has a link to the docs, actually. (or something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo )12:36
FariSS:s12:36
Ng!tell sensory about pastebin12:36
C|inthi Ng12:36
Ngsensory: is it in that exact directory? does it show up if you run "ls"?12:36
mibukdoes anybody know when vim 7.0 will come out as an ubuntu package for dapper?12:36
FariSSW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)12:37
House_MDmibuk: the vim package maintainer12:37
FariSS:s:s:s:s12:37
NgFariSS: it doesn't look like that source exists. third party sources are generally not worth bothering with imo12:37
FariSSsome1 help me please12:37
Ngmibuk: it won't12:37
Ngmibuk: ubuntu doesn't add new software to already released versions, just security/bug upgrades12:37
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FariSSNG i followed steps was in ubuntu guide12:37
C|intjust a reminder to anyone, if your thinking gentoo is the solution, or SUSE 10.1, just make sure your ready for some non compatible systems, SUSE was slower than chit :)12:37
Ngmibuk: and dapper is in version freeze now12:37
NgFariSS: ubuntu guide is junk :/12:38
=== C|int loves ubuntu :-)
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FariSSNG what i do now ?12:38
C|intdapper is nice12:38
FariSSNG because i replaced a sources.lit with some code from the guide12:38
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NgFariSS: either disable that repository in synaptic or edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file directory12:38
NgFariSS: you can go back to default sources...12:38
Ng!tell FariSS about sources12:38
=== C|int use still testing with dapper alpha 7, with no problems :-)
FariSSthx12:38
FariSSill try now and tell ya results12:39
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Samuli^sensory, firstly make sure you're using correct upper and lower cases, secondly padlock icon emblem means you don't have rights to the file.12:39
jhennmy ubuntu install is stuck at "retrieving locales"12:39
NgSamuli^: the padlock may just mean he can't write to it - tar was actually saying no such file or directory, so my guess is that he's looking in the wrong place12:40
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NgSamuli^: otherwise tar would be saying permission denied12:41
archvilleHi.12:41
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Samuli^Ng, yeah. I didn't mean that.12:41
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NgSamuli^: :)12:41
Samuli^I'm just saying what it means because he apparently didn't know.12:41
NgSamuli^: fair enough, sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs :)12:41
jhennanyone know why my ubuntu install is stuck at "retreiving locales"?12:42
geniusvicksI have a file with .deb extension how do I make it into a package12:42
geniusvicksor how do I indstall it12:42
Nggeniusvicks: a .deb file is a package already12:42
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Nggeniusvicks: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/foo.deb12:43
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Samuli^Ng, I've could've made myself more clear though.12:43
Samuli^-'ve12:43
hflappyok this sux....anyone have experience with prism2.5 cards?  and how do i make it list a darn wlan0 or wifi012:43
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hflappyi keep havin a prism2_config() failed12:44
hflappysomeone here must know how to fix that prism error ;)12:44
hastesaverWhat exactly does checkinstall do?12:44
Nghastesaver: break things mostly ;)12:44
Nghastesaver: the idea is that you can install software manually, but checkinstall will keep track of it12:45
hastesaverNg, oh, so is it recommended to use it or not?12:45
Nghastesaver: personally I don't like it, but other people do, so I guess it's a personal preference thing. I generally try to avoid installing any software manually if possible anyway12:45
hastesaverNg, Does it keep track of what arbitrary scripts do?!12:45
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Nghastesaver: for any given piece of software it may work perfectly, partially or not at all. So, it's not a helpful answer, but I would say.... maybe12:46
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C|inthello everyone,12:46
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julien_hi12:47
Nghflappy: which wireless card do you have?12:47
C|inthi12:47
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C|inti'm working on my wireless today, hee12:47
NgC|int: you can stop saying hello, we can see you :)12:47
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julien_anybody speaks french ?12:47
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Ng!fr12:47
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:47
C|intwell, I didn't get a response, you can see me, but that didn't mean people were saying hello back :-)12:47
ubuntuxsalve a tutti.12:47
jhennanyone know why my ubuntu install is stuck at "retreiving locales"?12:47
ubuntuxqualcuno mi aiuta a configurare i plugin java su mozilla??12:47
ubuntux(firefox)12:48
ompaulC|int, 680+ replies would make the channel unusable12:48
snowfakedubuntux: please speak english12:48
aLeSDubuntux: qua in inglese12:48
C|inthi ubuntux :)12:48
ubuntuxok, sorry.12:48
Ng!es12:48
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:48
ompaul!it12:48
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:48
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=== Ng wasn't sure which language that was ;)
C|intnot all are watching :)12:48
snowfakedubuntux: you might know that not everyone on this planet speaks italian12:48
snowfakedwhich little contradicts the italian thinking ;)12:48
hastesaver"The real-time clock function must be compiled into your Linux kernel." How do I make sure of that?12:48
C|intman I'm having a blast with ubuntu today :-)12:48
FariSSleroi@sunlov:~$ sudo apt-get install acroread12:49
FariSSReading package lists... Done12:49
FariSSBuilding dependency tree... Done12:49
FariSSE: Couldn't find package acroread12:49
FariSSleroi@sunlov:~$12:49
ubuntuxyes, i know it as i know that not everyone on this planet speak english!12:49
FariSS:s:s:s12:49
ubuntux:D12:49
C|intture ubuntux12:49
ompaulC|int, have you a ubuntu question, this is a very busy support channel, we don't do conversation very well, that is in the channel  #ubuntu-offtopic  ;-)12:49
FariSShow to install acrobat12:49
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C|int;)12:49
FariSSi follow instructions on user guide12:49
aLeSDhow to reconfigure alsa ?12:49
ubuntuxby the way, i need an help in configuring java plugin in mozilla firefox.12:49
aLeSDI changed my audio board12:49
NgFariSS: are you on hoary? if so yo uprobably need to enable the multiverse repository12:49
same3rhi guys12:49
ubuntuxthe java help-page offer a good step-2-step for mozilla, not for firefox..12:49
firestormHi. Have installed Ubuntu on a laptop and when I close it I cannot get it to recover. Have to shut it down and power it up again :(   Any hints?12:50
same3ris there a rar package  ??12:50
jhennanyone know why my ubuntu install is stuck at "retreiving locales"?12:50
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Ngsame3r: it's in multiverse I believe. Enable universe and multiverse and search in synaptic :)12:50
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same3rthanx ng12:50
kbrooksSO...12:51
FariSSNg ill try now12:51
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notesHi,all12:52
sneakacrosslol12:52
sneakacrossyou are alive12:52
visik7anyone using falcon ?12:52
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notesAnybody here is ruby on rails programmer?12:53
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aLeSDubuntu is debian based ?12:53
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topyliaLeSD: it is12:53
soonindallashello.  I am looking for a tutorial on how to apply a patch to a package source.  astonishingly there is little info about this in the wiki. can anyone refer me to a howto ?12:53
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sneakacross..12:54
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sneakacrossdoes it need a howto?12:54
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jhennanyone know why my ubuntu install is stuck at "retreiving locales"?12:55
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Ngsoonindallas: the various debian related packaging documents will be fine - might be worth looking at the New Maintainers Guide. generally you just need to make a few modifications to files in the debian/ folder of the package12:55
hflappyanyone have experience with prism2.5 cards?  and how do i make it list a darn wlan0 or wifi0..i know this is a prism2.5 card and in dmesg it keeps saying prism2_config() failed....i need help getting a wlan0 or wifi012:55
aLeSDpeople ... something like alsaconfig in ubuntu ????12:55
rixthMy computer has the 33.8gb limit, how do I overcome it?12:55
Frogzoosoonindallas: this is one way of doing it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource12:56
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hflappyaleSD: load up synaptic and do search for alsa12:56
hflappyaleSD: if u don't have X...then do apt-cache search alsa-config or alsaconfig or alsa12:57
aLeSDI think it there isn't ubuntu use a different system for alsa ... somkething like :12:58
aLeSDinstall snd-cs4281 modprobe --ignore-install snd-cs4281 && /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-cs428112:58
aLeSDinstall snd-cs46xx modprobe --ignore-install snd-cs46xx && /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-cs46xx12:58
aLeSDinstall snd-darla20 modprobe --ignore-install snd-darla20 && /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-darla2012:58
aLeSD....12:58
aLeSDin /etc/modprobe./alsa12:59
aLeSDuff12:59
aLeSDI hate strange thinghs12:59
soonindallasNg: thanks, I was looking at the New Maintainers Guide this morning... it seems kind of too high level for my needs... really about administration ( as the name implies )12:59
Frogzoo!enter12:59
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.12:59
jhennanyone know why my ubuntu install is stuck at "retreiving locales"?12:59
hyphenatedIIRC, that step takes a while12:59
Ngsoonindallas: I'd also recommend googling or checking sites like debian-administration - there's lots of useful info out there :)12:59
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dooglussoonindallas: to apply a patch you generally just run "patch -p0 < patchfile" or something like that.01:00
Chongablongahey, quick legal question01:00
FrogzooChongablonga: no one here can give you reliable legal advice01:00
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Chongablongawell basically it's more of an opinion01:00
hyphenatedis it illegal to give incorrect legal advice? :-)01:00
hflappyanyone have experience with prism2.5 cards?  and how do i make it list a darn wlan0 or wifi0..i know this is a prism2.5 card and in dmesg it keeps saying prism2_config() failed....i need help getting a wlan0 or wifi001:01
dooglushyphenated: it's not illegal to give wrong legal advice (IANAL)01:01
Chongablongabecause i dont know a lot about trademarks n stuff, but anyway, i just noticed that someone has nicked the little ubuntu logo thingy for their software, and i just thought id be an asshole and try and get them in trouble01:01
hyphenateddooglus: hah :-)01:01
LeeJunFanhyphenated: lawyers do it all the time.01:01
Chongablongawell not for their software but anyway, nickage has occurred01:01
FrogzooChongablonga: I'd get in touch with Canonical, who I imagine, own the TM01:01
Chongablongaoic01:02
Chongablongak no worries01:02
Chongablongathanks anyway01:02
soonindallasFrogzoo: dooglus: thanks for your suggestions.  I'll take a look at that wiki page01:02
dooglusI'm thinking about buying an mp3 player.  Can someone recommend one that will work well with ubuntu?01:02
dooglussoonindallas: "man patch" is probably all you need to read.01:02
dooglussoonindallas: understand the -p flag and you're set to go01:02
Frogzoodooglus: ipod's are supported by amarok01:03
dooglusFrogzoo: aren't ipods a tad expensive compared to the competition?01:03
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hyphenateddooglus: probably. but they attract women01:04
Pimpshizzledhey dooglus, welcome back =)01:04
Pimpshizzledi didnt thank you for your help before01:04
dooglusPimpshizzled: how's your first ubuntu day going?01:04
dooglusPimpshizzled: you did!  :)01:04
Pimpshizzleddooglus: its amazing, once ive got my head around the graphics, then i should be set to start working on the apperence01:05
hyphenatedsoak it up, dooglus. most people forget to say thanks even once ;-)01:05
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dooglushyphenated: I've been promised quite a few pints of beer here over the last year; don't suppose I'll ever get to collect any of them though.  :)01:06
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Pimpshizzledlol hyphenated, its a community support, thanks just aint enough sometimes, people get paid for the stuff u guys do01:06
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same3ris there a way to see all the minimized window ?01:06
FariSSleroi@sunlov:~$ sudo apt-get install acroread01:07
FariSSPassword:01:07
FariSSE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:07
FariSSE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:07
FariSSleroi@sunlov:~$01:07
dooglussame3r: in GNOME?01:07
FariSSNG01:07
FariSSlook01:07
DBOdooglus, you and me both, not to say I havent drank those beers, but Im still waiting on the check =P01:07
FariSS):01:07
same3ryea dooglus01:07
hyphenatedFariSS: be careful with that pasting. use a pastebin in the future please01:07
FariSShow01:07
hyphenatedFariSS: and something else is already installing packages. wait till that finishes01:07
DBOFariSS, do you have a package manager (like synaptics) open?01:07
FariSSim sorry01:07
dooglusFariSS: you've got synaptic running?  you can't run synaptic and apt-get at the same time01:07
NgFariSS: close synaptic if you have it open (or any other apt-get processes)01:07
FrogzooFariSS: please don't paste here01:07
FariSSyes01:07
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DBOFariSS, close synaptic first01:07
Pimpshizzledhmm, apparently i need to reset for a kernel update, so ill catch u guys in a mo01:07
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same3rany one any idea  ??01:08
dooglussame3r: I'm not sure what you mean.  you can't see minimised windows - they're minimised...01:08
DBOjust us lurkers, what can we do for you?01:08
FariSSok01:08
hyphenatedhe probably means like a taskbar or something01:08
DBOwait, I misread that...01:08
FariSSim sorry01:08
FariSSreally01:08
FariSS):01:08
dooglushyphenated: well, he's got a taskbar - it's on by default in GNOME01:09
hyphenatedPimpshizzled: that's about the only thing that requires a reboot.01:09
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same3ryea i can see them in the task bar01:09
DBOFariSS, its ok, we all learn (btw, dont use enter key as punctuation, thats annoying too)   =)01:09
hyphenatedsame3r: but that's not what you want?01:09
same3rbut i want something that enable me to see all the window01:09
firestormHi. Have installed Ubuntu on a laptop and when I close it I cannot get it to recover. Have to shut it down and power it up again :(   Any hints?01:09
dooglushyphenated: ubuntu is asking me to reboot right now.  I see the little 'reboot' icon in the notification area - but I don't think any kernel was installed recently.01:09
dooglussame3r: you can add a 'window list' to the GNOME panel if that's what you mean.01:10
DBOdooglus, lots of things cause that reboot icon to show up.  Amoung those are a new hal and other similar core packages01:10
dooglussame3r: right-click on some empty space in the panel and 'add to panel'01:10
hyphenateddooglus: that's no good. in theory, it should only be for the kernel and things tied really closely to it01:10
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dooglushyphenated: there was a new dbus for dapper this morning - maybe that's what did it.01:11
same3rdooglus: i already got that01:12
same3rbut see when a window get minimized u cann't see wat is happening in01:12
same3rlike if ur using irc01:12
DBOhyphenated, I believe it also asks for a restart when it messes with init (I guess just to prove it works?)01:12
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dooglussame3r: if you want to see what's in a window, don't minimise it.  I still don't understand your problem.01:13
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hyphenatedDBO: maybe. or maybe because restarting it as part of installing the package is nasty, especially if it's a daemon01:13
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same3rsomething like minized shot of windows01:14
same3rto see wat is happening01:14
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DBOhyphenated, shuting down some deamons while you are running can be rather upsetting to X =P01:14
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dooglusDBO: initscripts asks for a reboot only if it has just been updated to a version older than '2.86.ds1-6ubuntu12' (for some reason)01:15
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dooglussame3r: oh, I see.  GNOME doesn't do that, but some window managers do.  try 'enlightenment' for example01:15
DBOwell Ill tell you what, Ill test that right now, I have an initscript update available =P01:15
dooglusDBO: check 'dpkg -l initscripts' first to see what version you have now.01:16
DBOubuntu2901:16
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dooglusDBO: right.  I had that this morning, and it got updated to ubuntu 30.  maybe that's what caused the reboot flag to come up, but I don't think so, looking at it's postinst script.01:17
FariSSDBO i have another problem01:17
same3rah01:17
FariSS:s01:17
FariSScould y help me01:17
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archvilleAny program to change monitor brigthness/contrast by software ?01:17
FariSSwell i cant past , how i do ?01:18
foxpaulhi all - i've got a machine with two network cards (internal IP and external IP) and i need to be able to connect to the internal one (wireless) and ping the external one01:18
same3ris enlightment any good ??01:18
DBOFariSS, sure, what is wrong?01:18
same3rnever used it ??01:18
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foxpauli think i need to add a route, but not sure which details i need - does anyone have an idea?01:18
FariSSDBO during installing sun-j2re1.501:18
FariSSit give me this msg : E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.501:18
FariSS):01:19
hyphenatedfoxpaul: address, netmask, gateway, network interface01:19
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DBOFariSS, "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4" will get you 1.4,  unless you really need 1.5 there is no big difference01:19
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dooglussame3r: some people like it - it's quite 'flashy', lots of eye candy.01:19
DBOdooglus, no reboot flag01:19
foxpaulhyphenated, is that the address of the external nic, it's netmask (different from internal interface), it's own gateway, etc ?01:20
dooglusDBO: are you on dapper?01:20
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FariSSok thx DBO , im just following the ubuntu guide steps , and i get many errors , its not a usefull guide really :s01:20
DBOdooglus, yes01:20
dooglusDBO: and you didn't get a reboot flag come up at all recently?01:20
DBOdooglus, oh no I get it most every update =P01:20
dooglusDBO: it would be interesting if the update flag would tell me something about why the reboot was needed.01:21
hyphenatedfoxpaul: no.. address is an address in the range the route applies to. very closely related to the netmask. and the gateway is the machine to send these packets to01:21
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DBOdooglus, if you examine the update beforehand you can usually figure out which package is going to flag you01:21
dooglusDBO: if it's a kernel update you get a separate icon with 'post install information' saying "the kernel has been updated, reboot ASAP" or some such.01:21
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hyphenatedthe interface is your local NIC that represents the cable it should use to get to that gateway01:22
DBOheh, pfft, running custom kernel anyhow01:22
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dooglusDBO: I can see from the dpkg.log what packages were installed, but none of them look like they would trigger a reboot.01:22
FariSSDBO look : Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:22
FariSS:s01:22
DBO!repos01:22
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:22
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DBOfirst link FariSS01:22
Pimpshizzleddooglus: hey guy, i have the drivers in for my NV5700, but i cant seem to get a better res than 1024x768, am i missing something dya think?01:22
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hyphenatedfoxpaul: was that clear enough, or do you still need more details?01:23
FariSSDBO i did all Multiverse already01:23
p62ru01:23
DBOFariSS, did you do universe?01:23
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foxpaulhyphenated, not really sure, sorry01:23
FariSSDBO i do universe Multiverse01:23
DBOPimpshizzled, /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> pastebin01:23
hyphenatedfoxpaul: ok, I'll come up with an explanation and put it in a pastebin or something01:23
foxpaulif my external details are 213.145.103.14 (nm 255.255.255.40) and the internal ones are 192.168.102.254 (nm 255.255.255.0) i dont know which details are needed to route from internal to external01:24
FariSSDBO on all repositories01:24
foxpaulhyphenated, thanks ^01:24
DBOFariSS, /etc/apt/sources.list -> pastebin01:24
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Pimpshizzledpastebin?01:25
DBO!pastebin01:25
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126901:25
Pimpshizzledahhh01:25
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nomikehi01:26
FariSSDBO root@sunlov:/home/leroi# /etc/apt/sources.list01:26
FariSSbash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied01:26
FariSS:s01:26
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mattiFariSS: sudo01:26
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PimpshizzledDBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1411401:26
DBOFariSS, "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then put the text in pastebin01:26
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DBOPimpshizzled, what resolution do you want?01:26
Pimpshizzled1600x120001:27
jdmpikehey everyone01:27
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dooglusPimpshizzled: I don't know about graphics cards - I have a crappy laptop with on-board graphics.01:27
FariSSpastebin leroi@sunlov:~$ sudo /etc/apt/sources.list01:27
FariSSsudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found01:27
Pimpshizzleddooglus: np guy =)01:27
mattiFariSS: sudo <some editor here> /etc/apt/sources.list :-)01:28
foxpaulhyphenated, i have to go for a few mins. will brb, thanks for the help01:28
DBOPimpshizzled, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14115 make the changes I made then restart X01:28
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dooglusDBO: take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/dbus.postinst - there's a comment that says "Do not restart dbus on upgrades, only on fresh installations", but the code which follows it seems to recommend a reboot only if dbus is already running - does that look right to you?01:28
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DBOFariSS, I want you to put the contents of that file into pastebin...01:29
DBOmatti, you think you can help him do that?01:29
FariSSDBO im01:29
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mattiDBO: If he know, how to use sudo and any editor - probably.01:29
mattiFariSS: :-)01:30
DBOmatti, he doesnt need sudo because hes not going to edit it right now, we just want the contents in pastebin =)01:30
mattiDBO: Oh, so then... Sorry for interrupting ;-p01:30
mattiDBO: :-)01:30
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DBOmatti, its ok, you're doing fine =_01:31
DBO=)01:31
FariSSDBO http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1411601:31
FariSS:)01:31
DBOhey hey!01:31
mattiFariSS: :-)))01:31
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FariSSthx guys :)01:31
DBOFariSS, still on hoary huh?01:31
jdmpikedoes anyone know of any open source software that can do screencasts?01:31
FariSSi think yes01:31
DBOFariSS, what will it take to convince you to do an upgrade *this is why things arent working*01:32
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dooglusFariSS: "lsb_release -d" will tell you01:32
FariSSDBO upgrade ? i did an update right now ,whats the command to do upgrade :s01:32
FariSSok lemme try01:32
DBOdooglus, you are right, it looks backwards...  but I could be wrong I only glanced at it01:32
jdmpikecan anyone hear me?01:33
DBOFariSS, are you on highspeed?01:33
DBOjdmpike, just us ducks01:33
jdmpikeI just installed ircII and I am note sure if it working01:33
FariSSDBO yes 20 MB01:33
same3rwat is best recommend windows manager ?01:33
dooglusDBO: I think I get it now...  that test says "if dbus is already running then flag a reboot and exit, else start dbus" - so it is right.  it means that updating dbus will always need a reboot once it's installed - and it's installed when you install ubuntu...01:33
DBOFariSS, do you want to upgrade to breezy?01:34
dooglusjdmpike: it's working.  but irssi is nicer IMHO01:34
apokryphossame3r: metacity is default in gnome, and kwin is default in kde.01:34
FariSSDBO look : leroi@sunlov:~$ lsb_release -d01:34
FariSSDescription:    Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release)01:34
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Frogzoosame3r: best to start with gnome01:34
DBOdooglus, hmmmm, ok, boy those nested if statements throw my brain for a loop01:34
same3ralready used that, gnome and kde01:34
jdmpikedooglus, is irssi cli?01:35
dooglusDBO: the outside one checks that there's a file holding the process number for the dbus daemon, and the inner one checks that the process is still running.01:35
jdmpikedooglus, I need it to work through ssh01:35
Frogzoojdmpike: yup01:35
same3rbut looking for something better, if there is any01:35
dooglusjdmpike: it is01:35
DBOFariSS, how very strange01:35
DBOdooglus, yeah I see it now...01:35
dooglussame3r: try enlightenment01:35
dooglusjdmpike: I'm using irssi inside a remote screen session, through ssh right now.  it works great.01:35
DBOdooglas, FariSS's sources.list shows hes running hoary, yet lsb_release shows breezy, you thinking he accidentally downgraded?01:35
same3rapt-get ??01:36
same3ror something else01:36
FariSS:s01:36
dooglusDBO: I think he needs to replace hoary with breezy in his sources.list01:36
DBOi think so too01:36
dooglusFariSS: what do you see if you run "dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop"?01:36
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FariSSive mistyped something maybe , cause i just updated today01:37
DBOFariSS, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1411701:37
DBOFariSS, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"01:37
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DBOFariSS, change the file that command opens to look like the one in the link I gave you01:37
DBO(I call enter on me)01:37
dooglusFariSS: the versions of ubuntu-desktop are: warty: 0.3; hoary: 0.43; breezy: 0.80; dapper: 0.11401:38
FariSSwait dooglus , i use pastebin to show you01:38
DBOFariSS, ignore what I said earlier, just run this one command01:39
dooglusFariSS: I'm only interested in the last line.  you can paste that here.01:39
PimpshizzledDBO: i cannot edit that file with the resolutions without having root access?01:39
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Pimpshizzledis that right?01:39
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FariSSdooglus : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1411801:39
dooglusPimpshizzled: you can use "sudo gedit /path/to/file" to edit it as root01:39
DBOFariSS, "sudo su; sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"01:40
FariSSii  ubuntu-desktop            0.80                      The Ubuntu desktop system01:40
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DBOFariSS, just put that into a command prompt and press enter01:40
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dooglusFariSS: 0.80 is the breezy version; you're running breezy.01:40
FariSSok DBO01:40
DBOFariSS, when it asks you for a password, give it your passward that you use to log in01:40
FariSS:s01:40
dooglusFariSS: don't run that line - it's not right.01:41
FariSSok brothers01:41
FariSSthx01:41
DBOdooglus, whats wrong with it?01:41
dooglusDBO: you can't separate those commands with semicolons01:41
FariSS:s01:41
hflappyanyone have experience with prism2.5 cards?  and how do i make it list a darn wlan0 or wifi0..i know this is a prism2.5 card and in dmesg it keeps saying prism2_config() failed....i need help getting a wlan0 or wifi001:41
FariSSwhat01:41
FariSSaham01:41
FariSSso what i do now guys ):01:41
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FariSSim confuse01:41
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dooglusDBO: "sudo su" makes a new shell, a root shell.  the root shell will read commands until you exit; then the "sed -e" will run, in the original shell, as the original user.01:41
DBOdooglus, yeah dumb me01:41
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Pimpshizzledbrb folks01:41
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T``what does gdm use to choose the resolution of the screen?01:42
FariSSlol01:42
FariSSdooglus , i type what bro ):01:42
T``my laptop goes into 1920x1440 when i do startx from shell01:42
DBOFariSS, "sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"01:42
T``but its going to 1680x... when i do it thru gdm01:42
DBOthat will work though01:42
dooglusDBO: you can "sudo bash -c 'sed; apt; etc"01:42
T``how can that me?!01:42
T``s/me/be01:42
visik7dooglus: do u use falcon ?01:42
FariSSDBO thats correct line ?01:42
dooglusvisik7: I never heard of falcon01:42
DBOFariSS, yeah, should work01:43
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visik7dooglus: do u manage a repository ?01:43
FariSSthx01:43
FariSSill try and tell ya01:43
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dooglusvisik7: nope01:43
visik7:(01:43
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dooglusvisik7: what are the packages you have to offer?01:43
visik7vim 701:43
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dooglusvisik7: oh; that goes against my religion anyway I'm afraid.01:44
visik7?!?!01:44
dooglusvisik7: I'm a 7th-day emacsian01:44
DBOdooglus, strict vi?01:44
DBOdooglus, you traitor...01:44
dooglusDBO: traitor to what cause?01:45
ompaulthe cause of nano01:45
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ompaulperhaps that was a little offtopic?01:45
DBOnano!?  vi...01:45
DBOok OT we are...01:45
FariSSDBO , dooglus Dowloading01:45
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DBOFariSS, good to hear01:46
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DBOFariSS, sorry about the original command line FUBAR, its 8AM here, and Im on the wrong side of the clock01:46
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ompaulsmurf, pm?01:47
PimpshizzledDBO, it doesnt seem to have worked, maybe i should try and install the drivers from NV's site? if they have them for this card that is.01:47
FariSSFetched 135MB in 2m23s (943kB/s)01:47
dooglusDBO: me too, only it's 13:47 here01:47
FariSS:))01:47
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FariSSthx for yr help guys01:47
FariSSy are really cool01:47
FariSS:)01:47
DBOPimpshizzled, did you restart X?01:47
PimpshizzledDBO, i reset the whole machine01:48
jdmpikedooglus, thanks for the reco - this must be what xchat uses, it was already installed!01:48
DBOPimpshizzled, ok, in that case yes, install nvidia's proprietary blob drivers01:48
dooglusjdmpike: remind me?01:48
DBO!nvidia01:48
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:48
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DBOFariSS, I keep telling all the girls that, but they dont listen01:48
jdmpikedooglus, using irssi vs. ircII01:48
FariSSDBO lol01:48
FariSShahaha01:49
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FariSSDBO thats right01:49
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dooglusjdmpike: xchat doesn't use irssi - they're separate programs.  but they may well both be in the default install01:49
T``hmm01:49
usuarioahola01:49
T``why isn't mplayer in the apt-get?01:49
T``i can't find it01:49
T``anyone else have this prob??01:50
bimberi!mplayer01:50
ubotuwell, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106101:50
DBO!tell T`` about repos01:50
bobslaedeT``: it aint in mine01:50
DBOits in universe01:50
bobslaedeoh...01:50
bimberimultiverse (iirc)01:50
ompaulapt-cache policy mplayer shows nothing01:50
jdmpikedoes anyone know of free software that can make screen casts01:51
jdmpikeso you can record demos and such01:51
DBObimberi, multiverse, you are right01:51
jdmpiketo put on a website01:51
ompaulmplayer is on the restricted formats web page01:51
linux_galorejdmpike: slide shows ??01:51
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bimberijdmpike: you could try istanbul01:51
bimberi!info istanbul01:52
ubotuistanbul: (desktop session recorder), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 60 kB, Installed size: 324 kB01:52
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dooglusjdmpike: read this: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/ZwaX/05-05-18-xchatmovie.htm01:53
T``hmm01:53
aLeSDwhy I cannot see video with totem ?01:53
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T``why can't "open display" if i do a su - and login as root01:54
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T``i set the DISPLAY to :0.001:54
T``doesn't work01:54
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T``grrr01:54
mouahi01:54
ompaul!root01:54
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.01:54
T``ooh01:54
T``uh strange01:54
mouadoes someone know something to convert .bin to .iso ?01:54
ompaulno its been like this since the start01:54
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gnomefreakubotu tell T`` about enter01:54
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mjrmoua, bchunk01:54
T``i logged in as single and had to change the pass so it will let me in01:55
T``haha01:55
T``damn01:55
lssHi, is there any easy-way (e.g. synaptic way) to install any client to soulseek?..01:55
mouathanks mjr i will look at this01:55
ompaul!enter01:55
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.01:55
dooglusT``: because "su -" means "become root, and use root's environment".  root's environment doesn't have the environment variable containing the magic word needed to talk to your X server.01:55
ompaulT``,  ^^^^ two lines please note01:55
dooglusT``: if you just "su" instead of "su -" then I think it will work01:55
doogluslss: try "nicotine"01:55
dooglus!info nicotine01:56
ubotunicotine: (graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 291 kB, Installed size: 1488 kB01:56
lsslss,  do i need to add an extra repository?01:56
bimberiT``: you can run gui apps as root with 'gksudo foo'01:56
aLeSDtoem says me There were no decoders found to handle the stream01:56
lssops01:56
aLeSDwhere could I find codecs ?01:56
gnomefreaklss: enable universe for it01:56
doogluslss: you need to add 'universe' if you don't have it already.  see:01:56
dooglus!universe01:56
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:56
gnomefreakubotu tell aLeSD -about codecs01:56
ompaul!tell aLeSD about restricted01:56
lssThanks a lot.01:56
DBOdooglus, you can of course fix that by defining $DISPLAY01:56
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dooglusDBO: I don't think so - you also need the secret 'cookie' in $XAUTHORITY01:57
jdmpikebimberi, istanbul looks like exactly what I want01:57
gnomefreak;) give me time ill slow down as i start drinking coffee01:57
visik7ok cooked01:57
gnomefreakok now need to read on nicotine01:57
visik7anyone want to test my debs of vim7 ?01:58
bobslaedei got a problem with usbmount, apparently it doesnt understand that my usb disk (/dev/sda /dev/sda1) has a filesystem, and wont mount it. I created a symlink from /sbin/vol_id to /sbin/udev_volume_id, as udev_volume_id isnt there.01:58
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dooglusgnomefreak: it's a soulseek client written in Python.  Pretty easy to use, but last time I looked on the soulseek network it wasn't as busy as it used to be.  bittorrent seems to be the place to be these days.01:58
runahi i wrote the ubuntu dvd but it is not bootable01:58
runawhat did i miss01:59
bimberijdmpike: great, it was a bit "beta" when i last used it but hopefully it will work for you :)01:59
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gnomefreakwhats soul-seek?01:59
ompaulruna, you burn an image not a file02:00
dooglusgnomefreak: it's a p2p network, primarily for music files, but also has other stuff02:00
lsssoulseek is a brilliant music network for sharing02:00
gnomefreakok so sortof like limewire or frostwire?02:00
runaompaul so i did i wright02:00
lssgnomefreak,  No... it's not shit02:00
runaright02:00
doogluslss: it can only download each file from one person at a time, and doesn't use any kind of hashing to verify downloads, does it?02:00
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ompaulruna, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto and do it at a low speed02:00
lssdooglus,  Wrong, you can donwload as many files as you want.02:01
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lssdooglus,  No hashing02:01
doogluslss: yes, but each file comes from a single user.02:01
ompaullss, I understand your excited, just a quick reminder it is a G rated channel, thanks :-)02:01
lssdooglus,  yeah but it's community is huge02:01
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lssompaul,  sorry, i'll say poo next time.02:02
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Hsohey ;)02:02
aLeSDthanks it works02:02
FariSSDBO dooglus , everyhting done successfuly thx guys02:02
FariSS:))02:02
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ompaullss, I would rather if you didn't say either02:02
dooglus"STEP2: instead of s**t say poo as in bull poo, poo head and this poo is cold"02:02
HsoCan someone help me install Firefox 1.5.0.3 ? It doesn't appear in Automatix or EasyUbuntu, so I need to do it manually.. but i'm not sure how >_<;;02:02
DBOFariSS, sure, bad day for me, made several mistakes =P02:02
runaompaul i did i like this is it correct growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso -speed=402:03
kbrookshso:02:03
Hsoyes?02:03
FariSSDBO no bro , y are great and cool ;)02:03
kbrooks!ff1.502:03
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:03
ompauldooglus, step three is I do /cs op #ubuntu ompaul02:03
Hso!ff1.502:03
Hsonothing?02:03
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Hsooh, there it is :P02:03
FariSSDBO i like linux from long time , and now im determined to learn it02:03
T``hmm.. this wiki seems outdated to add universe and multiverse02:03
Hso9seconds ago.. so unhelpful _02:03
T``i'm using 6.0602:03
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DBOFariSS, its easier to larn than windows02:04
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Hso!ff1.502:04
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:04
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ompaulruna, too much like work, try this fire up nautilus, right click on the image in the directory and choose Burn Image to Disk02:04
FariSSDBO i hope so , many commands , but i like it , its like y speack with yr machine02:04
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xiao make02:04
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runai know i dont want to make another cd useless02:05
dooglusFariSS: you've got the drppng vwls thng off pat.  you'll pck lnx up in no time02:05
RandolphCartersomebody should fix the .bashrc file to check for 'xterm' instead of 'xterm-color' :/02:05
gnomefreakT`: instead of the word breezy use the word dapper02:05
runathats why i am asking02:05
T`so i selected Community maintained (Universe)02:05
gnomefreakxiao: english please02:05
runals02:05
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Hsowhoa... anyone here understand chinese? lol02:05
T`now i hit edit, and check mark, non-0free (multiverse)02:05
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T`too?02:05
ompaulxiao,  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk02:05
gnomefreakT`: yes i would02:05
RandolphCarterwow, go ompaul02:05
T`gnomefreak, oh.. so both are checkmarked?02:05
gnomefreakompaul: english lol02:05
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T`gnomefreak, i also have another repo which says multiverse, ubunto 6.06 backports02:06
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DBObye good friend gnomefreak...02:06
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dooglus!cn02:06
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese, please join #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-tw02:06
gnomefreaknot nice ;)02:06
T`gnomefreak, i also have another repo which says multiverse, ubunto 6.06 backports02:06
binawhat is the program that asks you lots of questions about how you set up your ATI card (with flgrx) and sets up your Xorg config?02:06
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gnomefreakT`: no backports yet02:06
T`okok02:06
FariSSdooglus :s i didnt understand what y said :s:s:s:s:s02:07
DBOhe said you got this dropping vowels thing down really well (linux commands tend to be words without the vowels)02:07
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Pimpshizzleddooglus, what was that command again so i can edit my resolutions?02:09
doogluswhat's :s ?02:09
dooglusPimpshizzled: I don't think that was me telling you that...02:09
dooglusPimpshizzled: oh, you mean "sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list" - yes, that was me.02:09
Pimpshizzledthats the 1 =D02:10
dooglusPimpshizzled: oh, you mean "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" - yes, that was me.02:10
dooglus(missed an 's')02:10
jdmpikedoes anyone in here use truecrypt?02:10
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jdmpikeI had some problems mounting my truecrypt usb drive02:10
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DBOdooglus, call me niave, but how is he going to edit his resolution with the apt sources?02:10
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DBOs/niave/naive/02:11
T`hmm damn.. the whole screen is really weird on my laptop02:11
jdmpikedbo just evian backwards02:11
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T`the movie is very pixellized.. something wrong with my drivers i think02:11
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DBOjdmpike, how do you think I caught to error? =P02:11
lesshasteanyone know a magic one-liner to strip all html tags from a file? It is driving me mad :)02:11
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dooglusDBO: heheh.  I told you it was late.02:11
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octanim trying to blacklist a modle "spca5xx"  i put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but its still loading when i boot up02:12
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doogluslesshaste: how about    sed 's/<[^<] *>//g' file | less02:12
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Raovqi used module-assitant, and it downloaded linux-(something) and now synaptic wants to install 600 updates02:12
Raovqis that right?02:13
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lesshastedooglus, does that deal with tags that go over several lines?02:13
doogluslesshaste: nope.02:13
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octan<lesshaste> why dont you ask in #bash02:13
lesshastedooglus, ok.. I have just discovered lynx -dump :))02:13
doogluslesshaste: for that you'd probably use a Perl script02:13
ompaulRaovq, what version of Ubuntu have you got?02:13
Raovqits breezy02:14
Raovqwhats the command to get the kenerl version>02:14
ompaulRaovq,  that does not seem right02:14
octanuname -r02:14
Samuli^uname -r02:14
gnomefreakRaovq: uname -r02:14
Samuli^:P02:14
EnUmhelllo there02:14
octanlol02:14
jdmpikeis there a Dapper 64 channel?02:14
ompaul**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then02:14
gnomefreakjdmpike: #ubuntu+102:14
Raovq2.6.12-10-38602:14
ompauljdmpike, thats as close as it gets02:14
gnomefreakRaovq: thats breezy kernel02:15
EnUmdoes anyone know a program for ubuntu that simulates or allows me to use a win nt,2000 or xp program?02:15
ompaulRaovq, that is current02:15
T`what do you guys use as -vo for mplayer in ubuntu? i dont have xv02:15
lesshasteEnUm, wine02:15
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Raovqi had no updates needed before, now it wants many02:15
ompaulEnUm, wine, cedega for games02:15
lesshasteEnUm, or you can actually run the whole of windows in linux with qemu or vmware02:15
ompaulRaovq,  it does not look right02:15
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gnomefreakvmware?02:16
lesshasteyep02:16
Raovqsynaptic is saying that some upgrades require removal of some software02:16
gnomefreakompaul: you on dapper?02:16
Raovqsuggests i run apt-get dist-upgrade02:16
EnUmhow does qemu work?02:16
ompaulRaovq, put the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:16
EnUmdoes wine alo support win 2000,nt and xp?`02:16
lesshasteEnUm, best to read their docs02:16
ompaulgnomefreak, my notebook is running it here beside me this is 5.1002:16
Raovqrightyo02:16
lesshasteEnUm, wine lets you run apps02:16
lesshasteEnUm, vmware and qemu actually run the whole of windows02:17
gnomefreakompaul: care to help in #ubuntu+1 they both got me stumped02:17
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ompaulif I can :-)02:17
EnUmok,i see.so i jut need to run a singel program,that needs win xp or 2000 support,so i try to use wine,right?02:17
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Raovqhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1411902:17
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Raovqah, i see it now. i have a dapper resource in there02:18
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Raovqi added it to get ntfs write support sorted02:18
gnomefreakEnUm: what program?02:19
T`hmm02:19
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T`gl, and gl2 work ok.. but is this what you guys use to play with mplaer?02:19
Raovqthere we go, all sorted, only thre mysql updates to do now02:19
EnUmi don't think,that u know the programm gnomefreak.it is called Gk1,a software for the university02:20
lesshasteEnUm, look at the wine website. It has a database of apps that work/don't work02:20
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gnomefreakRaovq: thats not a good idea02:20
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gnomefreakRaovq: your sources list being mixed like that your just looking for trouble02:21
ReonWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running02:21
Reonkernel?02:21
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_JuDgEn_howdy02:21
gnomefreak!headers02:21
ubotuTo install linux headers, open a console and type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:21
T`anyone know how to see which package of mplayer is installed?02:21
T`or any other apt package i guess.. in general02:21
EnUmok,thank u very much02:21
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bbrazilT`: dpkg -l packagename02:21
doogluslesshaste: this works on tags which span lines: perl -e '$_ = join("", <>); s/<[^<] *>//g; print;' file.htm02:21
gnomefreakapt-cache policy <packagename>02:22
lesshastedooglus, brilliant :) !02:22
DBOlesshaste, you still looking to get rid of html tags?02:22
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lesshasteDBO, yep02:22
ReonHelp!02:22
ReonWhat is the location of the directory of C header files for my kernel ???02:22
dooglusdoes anyone know Perl?  I'd like to know how that should be done...02:22
Reontrying to install vmserver and it wants to compile something02:22
DBOlesshaste, (make a backup of your file first) "sed -e 's/<.*>//' -i /path/to/file"02:22
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Reonvmmon02:23
DBOlesshaste, that will erase all the html tags (or anything inside <these> for that matter)02:23
Pimpshizzledhey folks, i got the nvidia drivers working.. lol, no better resolutions tho, gonna have a sniff though the forums methinks02:23
dooglusDBO: he wants to be able to remove tags which span lines too though02:24
_JuDgEn_how do i get fglrx to work with both videooverlay and opengloverlay?02:24
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dooglusDBO: sed only works on individual lines, right?02:24
DBOlesshaste, "sed -e 's/<.*>//g' -i /path/to/file"02:24
lesshastethe problem is that lynx - dump file|wc -w and    perl -e '$_ = join("", <>); s/<[^<] *>//g; print;' file |wc -w give different answers :(02:24
DBOdooglus, eh... that will kill lots of them...02:24
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dooglusDBO: another problem, it will delete the whole of "<BR>blah<BR>", whereas he wants to keep the 'blah' bit02:25
lesshaste lynx -dump02:25
DBOdooglus, let me test that...02:25
same3rany package to extract uharc ??02:25
doogluslesshaste: my perl script will turn "a<BR>b" into "ab" - a single word.  lynx will put them on separate lines.02:25
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doogluslesshaste: how about this: perl -e '$_ = join("", <>); s/<[^<] *>/ /g; print;' file.htm02:26
DBOdooglus, yeah, you are right, that kills too much...02:26
doogluslesshaste: it replaces tags with spaces - you'll end up with a bigger word count, but now maybe too big.02:26
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dooglusDBO: sed 's/<[^>] *>//g' is better02:26
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dooglusDBO: instead of '.' inside the <>, it only accepts non-> characters02:27
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Reonwhere are the c header files stored ???02:27
dooglusReon: /usr/src/kernel-headers*/02:27
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dooglusReon: you'll need to install package 'kernel-headers'02:27
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dudahello all! im on the dapper ubuntu, and the easyubuntu doesnt seems to work. it claims about some broke packages, how can i put it to work?02:27
gnomefreakReon: i told you already02:27
gnomefreakubotu tell Reon -about headers02:28
Reondooglus, thanks. Hopefully i can get vmserver going02:28
dudai changed the apt-sources from br to us, and it found a other packages do update02:28
FariSSdooglus is there any better ubuntu guide bro ??02:28
gnomefreakduda: #ubuntu+1 for dapper02:28
gnomefreak!ubuntuguide02:28
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ubotu[ubuntuguide]  badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.02:28
dudaoops, sorry :)02:28
DBOdooglus, once again I prove a retarded monkey =)02:29
dooglusDBO: heh.  but you're learning stuff, right?  so that's a good thing :)02:29
FariSSgnomefreak i got one from the website , but dooglus told me it was junk , any updated one ?02:29
Reongnomefreak, thx, did not see the tab popup. Funny thing is I did that from the cli and it isntalled nothing. Now i'm doing it via adept02:29
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dooglusFariSS: I was confused.  I was getting automatix mixed up with easy ubuntu.02:29
gnomefreakFariSS: no the best one i know of is help.ubuntu.com02:29
dooglus!automatix02:29
ubotumethinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.02:29
gnomefreak!easyubuntu02:30
ubotuhmm... easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.02:30
Reonubotu, thx02:30
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Reon02:30
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FariSSok thx guys02:30
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dooglusubotu is a bot.  he does't make a lot of sense if you try talking to him in english02:30
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, dooglus02:30
dooglussee?02:30
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Reondooglus, lol, he should just be called bot then02:31
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lovely_iMacHi, is there by chance anyone who runs an iMac g3 and can provide a xorg.conf or a modeline for the builtin CRT? It's running fine so far at 1024x768x24 at 75Hz, but the image is just a tick to wide :-( I tried xvidtune, but that didn't help.02:32
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FariSShuh02:37
FariSSwhy i cannot listen my MP302:37
FariSS:s02:37
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bimberi!mp302:37
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:37
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FariSSok thx02:37
bobslaedeusbmount documentation anyone?02:38
Smacky_WolfRawr, can someone possibly tell me how to use GCC3.4 instead of 4?02:38
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bobslaedeSmacky_Wolf: i think /usr/bin/gcc is a link to the version in use02:39
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bobslaedeSmacky_Wolf: so just change the symlink to the correct version02:39
Smacky_WolfExcellent. =302:39
Smacky_WolfThanks02:39
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gnomefreakits exportCC=3.4 or something liket hat i cant remember off hand you can try man gcc02:39
outlawcrookok so i tried to get my display right now i can log into ubuntu now02:40
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outlawcrookwhat can i do to get back in02:40
outlawcrookbeside a reinstall02:40
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Smacky_WolfAlso, anyone have a clue why sometimes my gnome-terminal jut won't load and needs a restartt?02:40
gnomefreakoutlawcrook: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:40
gnomefreakoutlawcrook: make sure everything is correct02:41
Samuli^outlaw crook, or copy xorg.conf.datehere over xorg.conf02:41
tuxmaniacGuys!02:41
outlawcrookk thanks i will go and try that02:41
bobslaedeusbmount documentation02:42
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liyuanI have Ubuntu 5.10, is good OS02:43
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Netto!java02:44
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:44
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Netto!javadebs02:44
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gnomefreakubotu tell Netto -about msg the bot02:45
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same3rdid any one know how to extract uha formate ??02:48
sstchuranyone know how I can get the volume control on my keyboard to work under xfce?  When I used to used Ubuntu (as opposed to XUbuntu) it worked fine.  Anyone know what it is specifically that makes it work?02:48
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marcieI've got a wierd problem...i don't want to have to reload Ubuntu...but it is annoying as hell...my extra screen choices (boxes at the bottom) have disapeared. Anyone know how to get them back (i find it indespensible in getting stuff done)02:48
tuxmaniacHi all.. Somehow my brains did not work while installing Dapper. IWhen it asked for whether the system clock is set to UTC I pressed Yes. Now everytime I login it is showing 5.5 hours ahead as my time zone is Asia/Calcutta!!! How do I rectify this problem ?? :((02:49
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Smacky_Wolfbobslaede, sudo rmmod ehci_hcd02:49
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marciei got a warning saying it had turned off and press this to reload...but it didn't and signing off and in again didn't work02:49
protocol1i hate when my mother drinks02:49
bobslaedeSmacky_Wolf: nope, did that already, new problem now02:49
mheathmarcie: If you right click on it, do you get a menu?02:49
Smacky_Wolfhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUSBStorage?highlight=%28usb%2902:49
protocol1woops wrong channel02:49
marciemheath: right click on what?02:50
mheathmarcie, on the workspace selector.02:50
bobslaedeSmacky_Wolf: not the problem02:50
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bobslaedeSmacky_Wolf: usbmount[22542] : /dev/sda1 does not contain a filesystem or disklabel02:50
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marcieUhm i get a message about panels...is that the right word for them?02:50
Smacky_Wolfahhh02:50
ompaultuxmaniac, go to the clock on the top right hand side of the screen, and right click and adjust02:50
Smacky_WolfIt sounds as if your disk is messed.02:50
bobslaedeSmacky_Wolf: it aint02:50
marciesuch as "add to panel"02:50
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marcieThere are no actual squares left there to click on02:51
bobslaedeSmacky_Wolf: i can mount it manually, but i dont want to02:51
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ompaultuxmaniac, be aware if you dual boot then that other thing does not know how to deal with time correctly it is in fact as we always suspected broken02:51
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bobslaedeSmacky_Wolf: the problem is that, usbmount looks for /sbin/udev_volume_id which is now /sbin/vol_id02:51
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Smacky_WolfDid you do an expert install, bobslaede ?02:51
gravesonwhat is gnomefiles website all about and is it supported to install any software from there02:51
bobslaedeSmacky_Wolf: nope, just regular install, server02:52
crazy_penguincould someone tell the name of a command used to take a screen shot from a terminal window under gnome02:52
tarzeaucrazy_penguin: scrot peng.png02:52
bbrazilcrazy_penguin: xwd02:52
crazy_penguinthx guys02:52
bobslaedeSmacky_Wolf: i symlinked vol_id to udev_volume_id, but they dont behave the same way02:52
marciei do get icons...is workspace switcher the right one? It looks a bit different but...it could be02:52
Smacky_Wolfbobslaede, sorry, but I'm till a nublet at this.02:52
tuxmaniacompaul: Heh.. I did that.. But the next time I login it is reverting back to that +5.502:52
bobslaedeSmacky_Wolf: thanks tho02:52
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ompaultuxmaniac, are you using windows?02:53
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ompaultuxmaniac, on that machine ever?02:53
Smacky_Wolfnp, bobslaede , I try to help when I can =/02:53
bersacehello02:53
bersacei'm trying to create a usplash image02:53
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bersacebut i got the black screen02:53
tuxmaniacheh.. 1.5 years back I used!!02:53
tuxmaniacompaul: ^^02:53
bersacehow to properly build the .so ?02:53
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bersaceWhere are bogl errors ?02:54
dooglustuxmaniac: edit /etc/default/rcS - change the value of UTC02:54
marcieah workspace switcher WORKED02:54
marcie(didn't look the same)02:54
mwebersace: I don't think you should build a .so02:54
ompaultuxmaniac, okay well all I can say is that you should save it with that and it should work and use ntpdate, it could be that the battery on the motherboard is gone and is not holding the clock time correctly02:54
doogluscrazy_penguin: I use this alias:  snap is aliased to `snap=~/Documents/Screenshots/$(date +%Y-%m-%d--%H-%M-%S).png; cd ~/Documents/Screenshots; import -window root $snap; echo $snap; gqview $snap'02:54
doogluscrazy_penguin: but you can just use the 'import' command if you want02:55
sladenbersace: did you rebuild your  initramfs?02:55
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bersaceyes02:55
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crazy_penguinthx dooglus02:55
marciewhen i upgraded thunderbird it lost it's symbolic link...would reworking the installation front to end (and deleted files it put in) help...i need to start it from the command line (part of what is causing problems i think)02:55
bersaceas said in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto02:55
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doogluscrazy_penguin: 'import' is a part of 'imagemagick'02:56
T`for some reason, my xfce started thru gdm has lesser resolution than when i start with startx from login prompty02:56
T`anyone know why this might happen?02:56
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mweT`: that's odd02:57
marciejust putting in the symbolic link in prefered applications doesn't help02:57
T`mwe, heh yea02:57
mweT`: I should be the same02:57
dooglusT`: what happens if you run 'startxfce4' to start it, instead of 'startx'?02:57
T`its definetely not02:57
T`ok02:57
dooglusT`: actually, what do you see if you run:    grep '^Exec=' /usr/share/xsessions/xfce4.desktop02:58
T`dooglus, yes, when i do startxfce4, i get better resolution02:58
T`i mean samy as startx02:58
FariSSi cant find totem-xine-firefox-plugin02:58
T`gdm somehow screws up things02:58
T`ok lemme see02:58
FariSSwhen i try to install it02:58
marcieneither could i FariSS...i looked yesterday...anybody know where it is?02:58
FariSSsudo apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin02:58
FariSSwhen i type this02:58
dooglus!info totem-xine-firefox-plugin02:59
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T`dooglus, yes i see startxfce4 there02:59
FariSSE: Couldn't find package totem-xine-firefox-plugin02:59
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FariSS!info totem-xine-firefox-plugin03:00
mweFariSS: enable universe03:00
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FariSSubotu Package 'totem-xine-firefox-plugin' does not exist.03:00
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FariSS03:00
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FariSS Package 'totem-xine-firefox-plugin' does not exist.03:00
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FariSSMWE i did03:01
dooglusFariSS: totem-xine-firefox-plugin is only in dapper (and breezy-backports)03:01
gnomefreakFariSS: install totem-xine03:01
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mweFariSS: did you sudo apt-get update afterwards?03:01
marcieFariss have you upgraded thunderbird as well?03:01
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dooglusFariSS: I guess you didn't enable breezy-backports, right?03:01
FariSSdooglus i did all steps that told me DBA03:02
FariSS:s03:02
FariSShow to do that ??03:02
FariSS:s03:02
dooglus!backports03:02
ubotubackports is, like, Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports03:02
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T`dooglus, mwe, any ideas on my prob?03:03
dooglusT`: your XFCE4 resolution problem?03:03
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siccnessAnyone know how to get menubar back on terminal?03:03
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fyrestrtrhow do I restrict ssh server to only listen on eth0, not on both ethernet cards?03:04
dooglussiccness: right-click, show menubar03:04
siccnessNot there03:04
Samuli^what dooglus said.03:04
Samuli^it's there :)03:04
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siccnessBah, it is too.03:04
satlan32hi03:04
dooglussiccness: right-click on the vast expanse of space, not on the edges somewhere03:04
siccnessI was clicking up the top (where it has the title)03:04
siccnessHeh, thanks dooglus/Samuli^03:04
Samuli^siccness, I knew.03:04
satlan32how do i change the default password for root after new install03:05
bobslaedeallright then, any alternatives to using usbmount to automount my usbdisks? I cant find anything about usbmount anywhere, no documentation03:05
satlan32and how do i login using root03:05
satlan32?03:05
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there? anybody know how to play a movie inside the desktop using mplayer?03:05
Hobbsee!+root03:05
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:05
dooglussiccness: the title is put there by the window manager, same as for any other window - that's now really part of the terminal at all, it's just window-manager decoration03:05
siccnessAhh fair enough03:05
dooglusTallia1Kubuntu: like on the wallpaper?03:05
Tallia1Kubuntuyes03:05
siccnessOk, here's a challenge, is it possible to remove the borders? :P03:05
Tallia1Kubuntudooglus: perfectly03:05
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siccnessSo it's 100% transparent.03:05
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cth23hi03:06
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dooglussiccness: not if you're using GNOME's metacity window manager, I don't think.  but there are other window managers which don't add borders, or only add them on some sides03:06
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dooglussiccness: but then, how would you move the windows around?03:06
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Tallia1Kubuntudooglus: any idea?03:06
siccnessdooglus, I just want to be able to make it have the text against my wallpaper03:06
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siccnessso it looks geekish in screenshots03:07
dooglusTallia1Kubuntu: no, I don't know if it can do that.03:07
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siccness:) So I'll have a look at other window managers03:07
FariSShow to know if i got  Hoary Hedgehog or Breezy Badger ?03:07
Samuli^siccness, there's ways with metacity too.03:08
Tallia1Kubuntusiccness: xgl?03:08
dooglussiccness: oh, I see.  you can tell the terminal to be transparent:  edit -> current profile -> effects -> transparent background -> none03:08
Tallia1Kubuntu!xgl03:08
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/03:08
T`dooglus, yea03:08
Samuli^siccnes, search in the ubuntuforums.org03:08
dooglussiccness: (assuming you're talking about gnome-terminal, that is)03:08
FariSShow to know if i got  Hoary Hedgehog or Breezy Badger ?03:08
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dooglusFariSS: type "lsb_release -d"03:09
Samuli^siccness, nevermind. Here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811&highlight=howto+terminal+wallpaper03:09
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siccnessOh, sorry for late response. Cat was jumping on me :|03:09
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siccnessThanks Samuli^ , and you too dooglus.03:10
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ferronicahi guys03:11
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ferronicawhat is GnomeMeeting???03:11
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ferronicaAny one help to find out03:11
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ferronicaubotu: gnomemeeting03:11
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica03:11
satlan32what is the default root password?03:12
ferronicaubotu: gnome meeting03:12
ubotuferronica: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:12
crazy_penguinferronica: it's something similar to netmeeting from windows03:12
njansatlan32, there is none03:12
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fyrestrtrclear03:12
satlan32i run "sudo passwd root" and it as for a password03:12
ferronicaOH03:12
njanferronica, it's an h.323 compatible videoconferencing and VOIP/IP-Telephony application03:12
Pimpshizzleddooglus, i have just got my resolutions right03:12
gnomefreaksatlan32: please dont advise people to enable root03:12
satlan32ok03:12
satlan32but i need it for my work03:13
njansatlan32, the root user is disabled in ubuntu by default.03:13
octanhmm i have not the module in /etc/modules. i have added skip spca5xx to /etc/discover.conf and spca5xx to /etc/hotplug/blacklist . but it still loads, how can i get it blacklisted03:13
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njansatlan32, the recommended method of administration is to use sudo as a regular user.03:13
dooglussatlan32: sudo is asking for your own password, not roots03:13
RootsYeah, I'm not giving you my password satlan3203:13
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octanlol03:13
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the_beginneris that why i can't be root straight off ?03:14
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ompaul!root03:14
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:14
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ferronicacrazy_penguin: Do u know any other linux OS like ubuntu which provide free shipping????03:14
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satlan32thanks03:14
ompaulthe_beginner, it is not how ubuntu is made03:14
dgrhttp://2enigmatik4u.com/v2/index.php?p=40&u=1501903:14
crazy_penguinno03:14
crazy_penguinferronica: no03:14
dooglusthe_beginner: that's one of the reasons - you don't know root's password.  but even if you did, gdm still wouldn't let you log in to GNOME as root unless you change its config03:14
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ferronicacrazy_penguin: what NO!03:14
octanthe_beginner if you wanna be a root. boot a live cd and chroot to your install and run passwd03:14
octan:) then edit sudousers03:15
dooglusoctan: that's a bit extreme!  'sudo passwd' is all you need to do.03:15
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crazy_penguinferronica: i don't know other distro that has free shipping03:15
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gnomefreakferronica: ubuntu is the only linux distro that ships for free03:15
octandooglus yea i know :P.03:15
ompaulthe_beginner, tell you what read that page that was on the screen, then choose03:15
gnomefreakferronica: thats one of the things that sets ubuntu from the rest03:16
ferronicagnomefreak: ok, DO u help me to explian what is KDE, Gnome all these stuffff03:16
ompaulthe_beginner,  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  that page03:16
octanhowever does anyone know how to blacklist a module from loading?03:16
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gnomefreakferronica: gnome and kde are desktop enviornments03:16
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gnomefreakferronica: i dont understand what about them you want to know03:16
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ferronicagnomefreak: Deskenvironment means graphics interface???03:17
ompauloctan, I have not looked in this:  /usr/share/pmi/blacklist-modules.sh03:17
gnomefreakferronica: yes03:17
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gnomefreakferronica: think of it as same things as windows desktop03:17
ferronicagnomefreak: what is KDE, i never heared abot it03:17
gnomefreaksame concept atleast03:18
andel7asfkj03:18
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gnomefreakKDE stands for K-desktop enviornment03:18
Smacky_WolfHas anyone here ever tried Cedega with 64bit Ubuntu?03:18
Smacky_Wolf!kde03:18
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ubotukde is probably A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/03:18
dooglusthe K used to stand for 'Kool', believe it or not :)03:18
andel7exit03:19
mwedooglus: I don' think the k has an official meaning03:19
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gnomefreakmwe: it no longer does correct03:19
dooglusmwe: see the original announcement of the project: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announcement.php03:19
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mwedooglus: I don't think that still applies. I could be wrong though03:20
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waddletron2kIs win32codecs installable from Synaptic?03:21
Smacky_WolfIt's like xwin. What does the x mean?03:21
gnomefreakubotu tell waddletron2k about w32codecs03:21
waddletron2kthanks :)03:21
gnomefreakyw03:21
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gnomefreakwaddletron2k: its a simple wget command03:21
gnomefreakthan dpkg -i03:22
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waddletron2kawesome03:22
waddletron2kcal, I got it :)03:22
caloh?  :)03:22
waddletron2ksi ;-)03:22
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MitsurugiI can't get my network card and modem to work at the same time03:24
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octanompaul i looked at that script03:24
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octanif [ ! -d $BLACKLISTDIR ]  BLACKLISTDIR  is not defined03:25
MazingaroMitsurugi: same irq for modem and network card03:25
Mitsurugihow can I change it?03:25
Mintynewbie question, am trying to see my reseau, but the 'keyring' am running french version so not sur whats it called keeps asking me for a password, but whatever i type in doent work, any ideas ??03:25
dooglusoctan: "! -d" means "is not an existing directory"03:25
Mitsurugimodem is serial and NIC is PCI if that helps any03:25
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octan<dooglus> right :)03:26
MazingaroMitsurugi: in fact, maybe network card has got same irq of serial port03:26
Mitsurugihow do i change that?03:26
Mazingarofrom BIOS03:26
Mitsurugioh boy03:26
Mitsurugialright03:26
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Mitsurugido you think using the other serial port might fix it?03:27
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Mazingarommmh03:27
dooglusoctan: man bash | grep -A1 -- -d.file03:27
MazingaroMitsurugi: no03:28
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octandooglus no need03:28
Mitsurugihere a noobie question: whats a IRQ ?03:28
Mazingarotry to remove all settings in the reserve IRQ BIOS03:28
njanMitsurugi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRQ03:28
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MazingaroMitsurugi: Interrupt ReQuest03:28
doogluswhat a rubbish acronym!03:29
MazingaroMitsurugi: means that a peripheral may ask to the cpu to achieve some other work, while it was doing other03:30
Mazingarocpu suspends other works and "serve" the IRQ request03:30
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MitsurugiI see03:30
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Mazingaroafter that it returns to normal tasks03:30
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Mitsurugiwill the BIOs have other IRQs ready or do i have to do it myself?03:31
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FeestBijtjeFinaly after 2 hours non-stop working!!! its complete now its chill out and F*CK ive forgot the music03:31
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MazingaroMitsurugi: maybe BIOS force some IRQ to be assigned to particular device, such as serial port or pci slots03:31
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Mazingarolinux kernel could remap them or could not (on some mb)03:32
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dooglusI just 'apt-get update'd my debian partition and instead of downloading the whole Package and Release files, it downloaded a bunch of tiny 'pdiff' files, making it much quicker.  Nice feature, and one I guess we'll be seeing in the Eft pretty soon?03:39
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Pimpshizzledgooglus, does linux only have 1 sound channel?03:41
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MenZaPimpshizzled: No.03:42
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g0dchildis there a way to start knemo when gnome starts up?03:42
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MenZag0dchild: System -> Preferences -> Session -> Startup03:43
MenZaAdd your applications there03:43
tarzeaug0dchild: you mean, why does gnome start up so slowly?03:43
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PimpshizzledMenZa, i only seem to get one sound channel, only one thing playing at a time, despite my sound drivers in place03:43
g0dchildMenZa, yeah- i know about sessions- but as it happens, knemo is a service and i cant run it from Cmd line like other apps03:43
FariSSdooglus i dont know how to write some caracters needed on some linux commands with my laptop , is there a place for commands shortcut or tabs ??03:43
Smacky_WolfI WIN! MY VIDEO NOW WORKS CORRECTLY! :D03:44
g0dchildtarzeau, no- all i need is a network usage/stats monitor03:44
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tarzeaug0dchild: like iptraf?03:44
tarzeaug0dchild: you could start one using @reboot in your cron, inside screen03:44
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tarzeaug0dchild: you'd need to configure sudo for this03:44
FariSSanyone know how to write some caracters needed on some linux commands with my laptop , is there a place for commands shortcut or tabs ??03:45
FariSS???03:45
FariSS):03:45
calIn attempting to install Windows Codecs as following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba  , i get the following error msg http://rafb.net/paste/results/yCtFpy86.html .  any workaround?03:45
syahiranyone can help me?I have problem with audio/sound03:45
dooglusFariSS: 'tabs'?03:45
Mitsurugiwhat kind of sound card is it?03:45
g0dchildi wouldnt know- didnt try that yet...and cron is kinda unfamiliar territory although I am willing to try if i can find any help/guide about it on a website03:45
MenZaPimpshizzled: Umm... ALSA/ESD?03:45
minimecHi folks. I really need your help with dpkg. Yesterday I installed the mldonkey-server package which failed because of a dpkg --configure problem. Now everytime I use apt-get, dpkg or aptitude, first I have that dpkg --configure mldonkey-server sequence again, wich obviously fails again. How can remove that sequence, or how can I remove or purge that broken package. I tell you.. I tried a lot...03:45
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Smacky_Wolf!nforce03:46
ubotuSmacky_Wolf: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:46
spikebminimec: apt-get -f install03:46
FariSSdooglus yes on keyboard , for example writing some commands, i cant find the caracters on my keyboard03:46
syahiranyone can help me?I have problem with audio/sound03:46
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PimpshizzledMenZa, im not sure mate, first day on ubuntu03:46
MenZaAh, right--welcome.-03:47
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MenZaI had a similar problem with Gaim03:47
dooglusFariSS: is 'gok' any use?03:47
MenZaPimpshizzled: I'll look it up on Malone, wait a second03:47
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FariSSdooglus whats that ?03:47
syahiranyone can help me?I have problem with audio/sound03:47
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minimecspikeb: Tried that too. No fucking way... I am getting pissed...03:47
calIn attempting to install Windows Codecs as following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba  , i get the following error msg http://rafb.net/paste/results/yCtFpy86.html .  any workaround?03:47
CarlFKhow do I install a dapper only package (http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/git-core) on a breezy box?03:48
dooglusFariSS: it's the GNOME Onscreen Keyboard03:48
syahiranyone can help me?I have problem with audio/sound03:48
FariSSdooglus i mean special caracters needed on some commands , i dont know how to write them from my keyboard03:48
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MenZaUmm, it was deleted, Pimpshizzled.03:49
minimecCarlFK: Go to packages.ubuntu.com, download the package you want, then sudo dpkg -i your-package.03:49
Unenvarjosyah, we read you all right. What seems to be the problem?03:49
FariSS):03:49
dooglusFariSS: what kind of special characters?  like '|' and '`'?03:49
FariSSyes03:49
FariSS:))03:49
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CarlFKminimec: thanks03:49
FariSSthe first03:49
MenZaI don't remember how it was fixed, but you need to set all your applications to play EITHER ALSA or ESD.03:49
minimecCarlFK: np03:49
FariSS'|'03:49
dooglusFariSS: I'm wondering if 'gok' would display a 'proper' keyboard onscreen so you can click on the '|' key with your mouse.03:49
FariSS:s03:49
syahirthe sound doesn't exist03:49
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dooglusFariSS: or, you could save that '|' you just copied into a file.03:50
FariSSdooglus no its not03:50
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syahirmaybe problem with motherboard03:50
FariSSlol03:50
Unenvarjosyah, integrated sound card?03:50
syahiror hardware support03:50
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FariSSdooglus how y write it ?03:50
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FariSSdooglus using wich tabs ?03:50
dooglusFariSS: or put it into your .bashrc, like:   pipe='|'03:50
syahirintegrated sound card?03:50
syahiri'm not using sound card03:50
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xctNeed help abt XGL install03:51
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FariSSok dooglus thx03:51
dooglusFariSS: then you can type $pipe instead of '|'03:51
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Unenvarjowell, I'm off towards home ->03:51
FariSSdooglus thx bro03:51
FariSS:))03:51
hostixHey03:51
CarlFKminimec: I found the source, git-core_1.1.3.orig.tar.gz - is there a .deb somewhere?03:51
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xctneed source XGL !03:52
Smacky_WolfHrm, I'm also having a sound problem. The correct drivers are now compiled (it's a builtin NFORCE chip) yet it still won't work03:52
minimecspikeb: CarlFK You should have a deb for all plattforms supported by Ubuntu dapper03:52
paco_comment sa marche linux03:52
hostix!google git-core filetype:deb03:52
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hostix03:52
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emilewhen i enable xgl (wiki) i get an error message i915 kernel module version is 1.1.0 version 1.4 or greater is needed and no xgl. Can someone help me please?03:53
FariSSdooglus still now support for webcam with msn ??03:53
paco_who put sound with linux03:53
dooglusFariSS: I heard that 'amsn' supports webcam, but didn't try it.03:54
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FariSSdooglus where to get it ?03:54
minimecCarlFK: This is the i386 deb http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fg%2Fgit-core%2Fgit-core_1.1.3-1ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=3637be97bea6af57f6f58e9318a7c0ee&arch=i386&type=main03:54
dooglus!info amsn03:54
ubotuamsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB03:54
tuxmaniac!ubuntuguide03:54
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, totally, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.03:54
Minty"The application 'File manager' (/usr/bin/nautilus) wants access03:54
Mintyto the default keyring, but it is locked, anyone tell me how to get rid of this problem ??03:54
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dooglusFariSS: enable universe, and search for 'amsn' in synaptic (the same way you get any of the other ubuntu packages)03:55
CarlFKminimec: where did you find that?03:55
ReonI need help. having problems installing VMWare Server. Pastebin-  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1412103:55
tuxmaniacubotu: !!!03:55
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tuxmaniac03:55
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kane__hi everybody...03:55
Smacky_WolfAnyone have experiance using nforce sound?03:55
FariSSdooglus ok thx03:55
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minimecCarlFK: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/git-core03:55
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dooglusis there a command which will tell me how 'big' each package I've got installed is?  I'm running out of space on / and would like to see which packages are taking the most space so I can consider removing them.03:56
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BoglizkI recently copied movies from my Win (NTFS) Partition to my Linux one, now the picture doesn't work when played on Windows.03:56
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hostixi am trying to get sound support but in every attempt i have failed, my sound card is a Realtek built in a Asus P51RD-W motherboard i have gotten a driver from asus but when i try compile then i get http://pastebin.com/720609 if you need more info please ask03:56
EnUmhello again.wine doesn't work with my ubuntu.is there any oter progam to run win 2000 applications on ubuntu?03:57
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CarlFKminimec: oh!  never noticed that the arch was a link - thanks03:57
minimecCarlFK: ;)03:57
dooglus!cedega03:57
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_JuDgEn_gaah why cant i get opengl to work!!! im going insane03:58
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kane__EnUm, yes try cross office... however it's not free... :(03:58
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EnUmcross office03:58
Smacky_Wolfhostix, asus just give you ALSA03:58
EnUmok03:58
FariSSdooglus done ;)03:58
Smacky_Wolfhostix, the actual drivers are hidden somewhere else03:58
FariSSdooglus but where to find camera driver :s03:58
kane__EnUm, sorry I meant crossOver03:59
Smacky_WolfUbuntu comes pre-installed with a newer alsa, at least than they gave me ( I have an AXN something) hostix03:59
lsuactiafnerwhats the command to make dpkg reconfigure xorg, and the apt-get to reinstall xorg?03:59
EnUmare there any other "free" available progams03:59
EnUm?03:59
alainlucashow can I download the image 0960.gif which is at http://www.kangxizidian.com/kangxi/ using wget ? (It's readable with firefox, but not downloadable with "wget http://www.kangxizidian.com/kangxi/0960.gif")04:00
kane__EnUm, I don't know of anything else... maybe cedega... but it's for games...04:00
byLealopengl is not working in dapper with i810.04:00
kane__EnUm, what exactly do you need to run?04:00
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EnUmhmm...it is an progam,not a game04:00
EnUmlesshaste:didn't u had an idea?04:00
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hostixSmacky_Wolf, what can i do?04:01
hostixto get sound04:01
kane__EnUm, isn't there an equivalent in ubuntu...??04:01
EnUmno04:01
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lsuactiafnerhow do force apt-get to reinstall xorg-common?04:01
kane__EnUm, what is the name of this program??04:01
Smacky_Wolfhostix, what was your device and chipset once more?04:01
EnUmGK1 it is an university progam,a special one04:01
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gnomefreaklsuactiafner: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg-common04:02
lsuactiafnerthanks04:02
kane__EnUm, oh, I see...04:02
hostixRealtek ALC861 on ASUS P5RD1-V04:02
martin#ubuntu-es04:02
Smacky_Wolfhostix, thanks, give me a sec04:02
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archvilleOne question.04:03
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Infernall-Workhey guys, im trying to get a pcmcia wifi adapter to work, but it is not being detected.04:03
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njalanyone know anything about ndiswrapper?04:03
archvilleAny way to enable direct rendering (dri) under XGL/Compiz for a nvidia card ?04:03
gnomefreaknjal: ask your question and if someone knows they will answer you04:03
archvilleIt runs smooth but i can't play opengl games.04:03
gnomefreakarchville: see #ubuntu-xgl please04:03
Infernall-WorkThis card does not show up at all with lspci, and i've restarted pcmcia too.  The LED on the wifi card is on.04:03
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FariSSdooglus is it normal that my police be small , when i open a text or pdf file , i cannot read the writed text its bad quality view:s04:04
njali have a d-link dwl-g122 D1 usb network adaptor i need to get working04:04
archvillegnomefreak, i tried yesterday, but didn't got any answers.04:04
gnomefreakarchville: im sorry but that channel has the people that deal with it this channel is hoary/breezy support04:05
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FariSSis it normal that my police be small , when i open a text or pdf file , i cannot read the writed text its bad quality view:s04:06
FariSS:s04:06
archvillegnomefreak, ok, thank you anyway. :)04:06
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dooglusFariSS: you have small police?04:06
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benoyhi all, was wondering if firefox works well for everyone here in ubuntu?04:06
Mintyis there a way not to have nautilus keyring ask for passwords, without uninstalling it ??04:06
dooglusFariSS: ours are generally quite chubby04:06
archvilleFor me works perfectly.04:06
archville(firefox)04:06
Smacky_Wolfhostix, i have no idea =.04:07
benoyI am using firefox but on certain websites like www.toyota.com, I can't see some of the pictures04:07
archvilleI've installed the mozilla.org version.04:07
hostixSmacky_Wolf, okay, thanks anyway04:07
benoyDid you have to install anything else seprately?04:07
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Smacky_Wolfhostix, look on your drivers CD. Asus are nice to Linux people. I had the sound drivers lumped in with the NIC drivers04:07
FariSSdooglus nothing to do to resolve that ?04:07
dooglusFariSS: I think you might have the wrong word there.  "police" are the angry men in uniform who go around hitting people with sticks.04:07
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archvillebenoy, do you have flash plugin installed ?04:08
archvilletoyota site needs it.04:08
benoyI think so04:08
benoyis there a way to check?04:08
hostixSmacky_Wolf, k04:08
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Smacky_Wolfhostix, it may be called NFORCE or some such04:08
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Smacky_WolfWhich comes to MY problem. I have the correct drivers compiled and installed, yet my soundcard is till not found. Anyone have any ideas? It's part of an NVIDIA chipsetted board04:09
nox-HandHey04:09
strafein my /usr/src/ directory i have 2 directories linux-headers-2.6.12-10 and linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386, do i need both of these and if not how do i find out the directory that is not being used?04:10
archvillebenoy, check it with other flash sites.04:10
Pimpshizzledsmacky, mines a Nforce board too04:10
Pimpshizzledi got the graphics, network, everything spot on04:10
Pimpshizzledother than the sound now04:10
Pimpshizzledlol04:10
minimecSorry but I have to ask you again. I have a half-configured package (mldonkey-server) on dapper. I want to remove that package. Whatever I try... that fails. Please... please... what force option of dpkg can I use to purge this fucking donkey package.04:10
martin#ubuntu-es04:10
nox-HandHow would I go about changing the boot screen thing? (( the Ubuntu image when I boot ))  - okay, admitted, I am on Kubuntu, but it works the same, so meh. How would I change that to an own image or something?04:10
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njalD-Link DWL-G122 D1 Ndiswrapper?04:10
Smacky_WolfPimpshizzled, XD It sucks. I was so proud when I first saw the Nvidia logo04:11
strafeuname -a shows 2.6.12-10-38604:11
Smacky_WolfPimpshizzled, are you a 64bit man, too?04:11
PimpshizzledSmacky_Wolf, Lol nah, im 32bit :o i wouldnt even know where to start with 64, i only started with ubuntu literally today04:11
benoyI just tried to reinstall the flash plugin and I get the following error:        Reading package lists... Done04:11
benoyBuilding dependency tree... Done04:11
benoyflashplayer-mozilla is already the newest version.04:11
benoy0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:11
benoyW: Couldn't stat source package list http://koti.mbnet.fi breezy/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/koti.mbnet.fi_%7eots_ubuntu_breezy_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:11
benoyW: Couldn't stat source package list http://theli.free.fr ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/theli.free.fr_packages_breezy_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:11
benoyW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems04:12
Smacky_Wolf!pastebin04:12
ubotuwell, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126904:12
gavcosminimec, apt-get remove --purge mldonkey-server04:12
Pimpshizzledty smacky ;)04:12
gnomefreakbenoy: no pasting04:12
benoyoh, sorry04:12
benoyI did not know04:12
Smacky_WolfPimpshizzled, you had an easier time than me XD 64bit Ubuntu isn't quite as ready as 32 XD04:12
doogluslesshaste: check out 'html2text'04:12
gnomefreakubotu tell benoy -about pastebin04:12
lsuactiafnerhow do i enable xinerama, or something similar, with ATI?04:12
dooglus!info html2text04:12
ubotuhtml2text: (An advanced HTML to text converter), section web, is optional. Version: 1.3.2a-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 92 kB, Installed size: 304 kB04:12
lsuactiafneri have one LCD and one CRT04:13
lsuactiafnerwant to use both screens as part of a desktop as in windows04:13
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njaldoes anyone know how to use NDiswrapper? As i seem to have not gotten it working04:13
gnomefreak!ndiswrapper04:13
PimpshizzledSmacky_Wolf, trust me :P i still dont know what im doing, i dont even know how to set XMMS as my default mp3 player04:13
ubotuit has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper04:13
minimecgavcos: That was the first thing I tried, as you can imageine. It is not so easy man ;)04:13
gnomefreaknjal: go there ^^^04:13
njalgnomefreak: thanks04:13
Smacky_WolfPimpshizzled, heh, I'm still a n00b, by all standards. I just play a lot, and sometimes things work04:14
lsuactiafnerhow would i limit the speed @ which apt-get downloads?04:14
gavcosminimec, have you tried to run apt-get with the -f (fix-broken) option?04:14
benoyDoes anyone know where I can fine the latest sources.list file for breezy?04:14
gnomefreakSmacky_Wolf: best way to learn is to play with it till it breaks04:14
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gnomefreak!repos04:14
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:14
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lsuactiafner!ati04:14
ubotuhmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358904:14
PimpshizzledSmacky_Wolf, how long you been using ubuntu?04:14
Smacky_Wolfgnomefreak, I can't break Ubuntu very easily. At least when I have I have fixed it04:15
Smacky_WolfPimpshizzled, about 6 months04:15
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roobHello! I got one question: if I install the current version of Ubuntu, can I easily upgrade when the new release comes out in June?04:15
lsuactiafnerroob : yeh.04:15
gnomefreakroob: yes04:15
spikebyup roob04:15
gnomefreak!upgrade04:15
protocol1does anyone know why my mplayer plugin is choppy on some streams04:15
Smacky_Wolfgnomefreak,  but you fix it without a reinstall, right?04:15
gnomefreak!+upgrade04:15
ubotuupgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.04:15
gnomefreakSmacky_Wolf: yes04:16
roobspike: (and others). Cool. Something like apt-get dist-upgrade?04:16
Smacky_Wolfgnomefreak, exactly04:16
Smacky_Wolf=304:16
PimpshizzledSmacky_wolf, hehe, not a quick learning curve this linux business tho is it?, i figured windows out in 10 minutes when i was 1204:16
minimecgavcos: Jep. The problem is the fallowing. There is an error in the config file of the package. So the package can't be configured.04:16
protocol1and is there an easy way to fix it?04:16
gnomefreakSmacky_Wolf: depending on whats wrong and how far the devel version is along04:16
roobThanks alot, my upgrade questions have been answered :)04:16
Smacky_WolfPimpshizzled, sometimes it's hard, often you are having the same problems as a lot of others *points at this chat*04:17
gnomefreakbrb04:17
[Spooky] i need a ftpd for backups on my box any ideas on any easy one ?04:17
archvilleproftpd04:17
gavcosminimec, try to rename the file04:18
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jpbotelhou send it for a linux or a windows box?04:18
archvillejust apt-get install proftpd04:18
archvilleand edit /etc/proftpd.conf04:18
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ferronicaany one here who know what is GTK??04:18
minimecgavcos: Where do I find that config-fiel?04:18
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jpbotelhocan use scp too if u send the backup to a lnx box04:18
minimecgavcos: file ;)04:18
ferronicaor who is interested in designing new GUI04:19
PimpshizzledSmacky_Wolf, there any nice programs you could suggest to bling my desktop up now, make it looks real smart, its still basic right now04:19
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gavcosminimec: can you tell me the exact error message you're getting?04:19
lsuactiafnerhow do i limited the speed at which apt-get downloads?04:19
Smacky_WolfPimpshizzled, what sort of stuff would you be after?04:20
ferronicaor who is interested in designing new GUI in ubuntu04:20
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njanlsuactiafner, QoS?04:20
gnomefreakferronica: ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic please04:20
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tombshi all04:21
ferronicagnomefreak: sorry :l04:21
gnomefreakhi tombs04:21
minimecgavcos: /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1) Not helpfull at all. But before it sais mlnetinstall unknown option --f04:21
ferronicagnomefreak: Hey can u tell me how to remove temporary internet file from ubuntu04:21
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gnomefreakferronica: sudo apt-get autoclean04:21
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gnomefreakferronica: and you have to delete the one from ff in ff04:22
benoyexit04:22
ferronicagnomefreak: Ok, or any other stuff to clean my ubuntu from useless stuffs04:22
lsuactiafnernjan : no thats too complicated04:22
gnomefreakferronica: that command should do it04:22
julia1does anyone know an icq client which supports the xstatus?04:22
lsuactiafneri dont want to figure qos out04:23
gavcosminimec: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure mldonkey-server?04:23
lsuactiafnerunless you have a script wich actually works04:23
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dooglusnjan: how do you tune QoS settings?04:23
ferronicagnomefreak: Ok, i wanna to remove all adware, malware etc04:23
dooglus!qos04:23
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dooglus04:23
ferronicagnomefreak:04:23
minimecgavcos: ;) As I said. I tried almost everything.04:23
dooglus!QoS04:23
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dooglus04:23
gnomefreak'ferryou dont have any adware or malware04:23
ferronicagnomefreak: To keep my ubuntu CLEAN04:23
PimpshizzledSmacky_Wolf, just a few more themes and such, get it looking different, maybe some transparent windows04:24
gnomefreakferronica: ^^^04:24
Smacky_WolfPimpshizzled, one moment04:24
ferronicagnomefreak: u mean same command will work for all>>>>sudo apt-get autoclean04:24
gnomefreakferronica: no i mean you wont get any malware/spyware04:24
gavcosminimec: how about apt-get install --reinstall ?04:25
FariSSbye guys04:25
FariSSand thx for all04:25
FariSS:)))04:25
ferronicagnomefreak: thats KOOl :)04:25
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ferronicagnomefreak: Hey what is Kubuntu LOL04:26
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minimecgavcos: That wouldn't help (I tried it), because there is an bug in the package (dapper beta ;) )04:26
ferronicagnomefreak: and eubuntu???04:26
Smacky_WolfPimpshizzled, http://art.gnome.org/ and then you can just drag/drop them to the Theme manager (under "System")04:26
lsuactiafnerhow can i see the links of the packages i need to download? i want to wget it to limit the download speed04:26
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gnomefreakkubuntu is ubuntu with kde and not sure what eubuntu is unless you mean edubuntu and that is a bunch of educational packages04:27
pasqualeciaooo04:27
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PimpshizzledSmacky_Wolf, cheers dude, ill look though em now04:27
muhammad_azmanhem...04:27
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muhammad_azmanstill have problems on dns..04:27
_JuDgEn_What is the name of the package for opengl 2.0?04:28
Smacky_WolfAlways happy to help if I can.04:28
dooglusminimec: what's the error in the config file exactly?04:28
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Ademananyone familiar with vsftpd?04:28
minimecdooglus: mom04:28
dooglusminimec: mine?  or yours?04:29
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Grout58Ademan: kind of04:29
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minimecdooglus: One moment please. sorry04:29
dooglusminimec: I'm installing it now on dapper.  hopefully I'll get the same error as you.04:29
AdemanGrout58: I'm trying to configure it to allow local users to connect (done that) but when they do they seem to have 0 priv, any idea how to configure it to give them priv?04:29
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nox-HandAnyone?04:31
r0xoRyeh, art.gnome.org rulez04:31
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r0xoR_JuDgEn_, try synaptic search04:32
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r0xoR_JuDgEn_, or just start typing alphanumeric characters while you've got an item in the list selected and it'll start an automatch for whatever you type04:32
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tattersto give  write permission in apache for a web application  is chown -R apache /var/www/html/  the best way to do this or a wrong way?04:32
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_JuDgEn_r0xoR:  have done so, but no luck. I have installed mesa, glut, libgl and most other libs i can find. Still i only have mesa as rederer04:33
r0xoRtatters, uhhh, that sounds like a better question for #apache04:33
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r0xoRtatters, your webroot should be set up with the proper permissions (at least i would hope so)04:33
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sasousalut tout le monde!!!04:33
spikebnap time04:33
tattersI got user apache and group root as file permission for the html folder#04:34
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sasouya quelqu'un?04:34
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r0xoRtatters, webroot is supposed to be owned by root04:35
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sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
NoUse!ops04:35
r0xoRtatters, but it's perfectly fine to change the group04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
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Hobbseesasou: english only04:35
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sasouya quelqu'un?04:35
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NoUsethanks Hobbsee04:36
Hobbseedoes anyone have a clue what language that is?04:36
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r0xoRfrench? spanish?04:37
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Hobbseei've got no idea....doesnt look french...04:37
Hobbseedoenst seem like a common language, otherwise someone would have picked it up04:37
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r0xoRwell... "salut, tuout le monde" is certainly french04:37
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tattersSo I would  chown -R root apache /var/ww/html/ set root as owner and allow apache write permissions?04:37
r0xoRHobbsee, heheh, no it's french04:38
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Hobbseer0xoR: ah okay...04:38
NoUseHobbsee his IP is coming from France, so its probably french04:38
dooglusminimec: to fix your problem, run this in a terminal:    sudo sed -i -e 's/^$/exit 0/' /var/lib/dpkg/info/mldonkey-server.prerm04:38
jdmpiketypical...04:38
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r0xoRNoUse, do u have geo-ip or something?04:39
NoUser0xoR I just googled "IP Location" and clicked on a link04:39
r0xoRhmm, good idea04:39
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MwafricaSome one help me with another type of browser04:41
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gnomefreakMwafrica: what type of browser?04:42
minimecdooglus: Which means?04:42
BanskuZIs Dapper stable?04:42
gnomefreakBanskuZ: no04:43
HobbseeBanskuZ: not until june04:43
gnomefreakBanskuZ: june 104:43
ferronicagnomefreak: help me my Nicotine is not working04:43
gnomefreakMwafrica: do you want a gui browser or a text or both?04:43
gnomefreakferronica: good luck ive never used it before04:43
minimecdooglus: so the error I have is: mlnettinstall: invalid option --f04:43
ferronicagnomefreak: LOL what u use then04:44
gnomefreakferronica: i dont use p2p apps04:44
julia1does anyone know an icq client which supports the xstatus?04:45
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Mwafricagonomefreak: my Mozilla Firefox... doesnt show text only images?04:45
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ferronicagnomefreak: then what u use???04:45
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Mwafricagnomefreak: may u suggest any other browser?04:45
ferronicagnomefreak: i never buyed audio or video CD's LOL04:45
stperehow can I rotate my display in Ubuntu?04:45
gnomefreakMwafrica: what version of ff?04:45
stpereI'm using latest nvidia drivers04:45
ferronicagnomefreak: use FF 1.504:46
ferronicaMwafrica: FF 1.5 latest04:46
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gnomefreakMwafrica: you can try any number of them one gui browser i like is kazehakase04:46
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dooglusminimec: what command are you running to see that -f error?04:46
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Mwafricadnomefreak: do u have a sudo command for kazehakase?04:47
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gnomefreakMwafrica: ii also use links2 and opera mozilla and like 5 others04:47
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gnomefreakMwafrica: sudo apt-get install kazehakase04:47
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Mwafricagnomefreak... same for opera?04:47
gnomefreakaroc: stop that please04:47
gnomefreakMwafrica: nope not that lucky04:48
gnomefreak!opera04:48
gnomefreakMwafrica: are you on breezy?04:48
stpere!nvidia04:48
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:48
gnomefreak!+opera04:48
ubotuwell, opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for Dapper see http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-241/intel-linux/04:48
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minimecdooglus: whenever I use apt-get aptitude or dpkg, the 3 software first try to reconfigure the hanging mldonkey-server configuration 'dpkg --configure mldonkey-server'04:48
jdmpikeis lynx2 much better than lynx?04:48
ReonCan anybody help with this please!  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=102260904:48
dooglusminimec: I just raised bug 45022 about a problem with mldonkey-server - is that the same problem you're having?04:48
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dooglusbug 4502204:48
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gnomefreakaroc: i asked you to stop04:48
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dooglusthere's no bug bot here?  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mldonkey-server/+bug/4502204:49
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Mwafricagnomefreak: im still in hoary.... i failed to update to breezy04:49
dooglusminimec: if you just want to remove the package, the sudo command I mentioned will let you do that.04:49
minimecdooglus: That's it ;)04:49
gnomefreakMwafrica: i suggest upgrading to breezy its simple and for the most part safe04:50
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minimecdooglus: Ok. Can you tell me, what exactly that command does?04:51
izmaelisI have a problem. There is a line "//192.168.1.4/stuff /home/izmaelis/stuff smbfs fmask=777,dmask=777,username="izmaelis",password="***" 0 0" in my /etc/fstab file, and that SMB share fails to load on system startup. I must do sudo mount -a from terminal everytime I bootup my system. What couses this problem?04:51
Mwafricagnomefreak: I will try again to go breezy... What is vthe sudo comand for opera?04:51
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izmaelisI have a problem. There is a line "//192.168.1.4/stuff /home/izmaelis/stuff smbfs fmask=777,dmask=777,username="izmaelis",password="***" 0 0" in my /etc/fstab file, and that SMB share fails to load on system startup. I must do sudo mount -a from terminal everytime I bootup my system. What couses this problem?04:51
ompaulMwafrica,  you should not try to do a two step upgrade04:51
gnomefreakMwafrica: there isnt one04:51
gnomefreakompaul: isnt he on hoary?04:51
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gnomefreakor did i miss read it04:51
ompaulgnomefreak, sorry I missed the to breezy jump :-/04:52
Mwafricaompaul: im in hoary.... Is there one?04:52
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gnomefreakMwafrica: you have to download the deb from opera than sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>04:52
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gnomefreakubotu tell Mwafrica -about opera04:52
ompaulMwafrica, its a straight jump to breezy, but as I say to everybody, have a live CD handy, just incase04:53
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gnomefreaklol04:53
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gnomefreakompaul: have at it im lagging my butt off anyway04:53
Mwafricaompaul: i have a live cd..... but the installation one fails to load04:54
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Smacky_WolfDoes anyone have experiance with NFORCE sound? I have the drivers compiled and installed, yet aplay says there is nothing there04:54
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Mwafricaompaul: problem with a CD ROM i think04:54
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ompaul!tell Mwafrica about verify04:54
gnomefreakMwafrica: just change your sources list to point to breezy instead of hoary and sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  but install the desktop package you use first04:54
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ompaulMwafrica, read that link from the bot to check the media04:55
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Mwafricaompaul: im using an internet cafe... update my not last04:56
ybuntuHello Everybody04:56
h2when i try to install mysql-server i get this error, which repeats about every 10 seconds -> postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/251830.6338: No such file or directory04:56
dooglusminimec: it replaces every blank line in the pre-remove script with a command which stops the script, so it doesn't get a chance to fail and stop the remove happening04:56
ybuntuim trying to install skype04:56
NoUse!tell ybuntu about skype04:57
gnomefreak!skype04:57
ubotuit has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/04:57
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ybuntuthe following error is occured04:57
ybuntukernel/qt_x11_p.h:66:22: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory04:57
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minimecdooglus: it sais--- no input files04:57
NoUseybuntu use the link ubotu posted04:57
dooglusybuntu: add 'deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free' to /etc/apt/sources.list, update, install skype04:57
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ybuntuok04:57
rseeberhello, I was just setting up a windows share last night through the System | Administration|Shared Folders - and I was unable to connect to it. I Did know how to change the /etc/samba/smb.conf to add "guest ok, and securty share", but I know a few people that have ubuntu installed that wouldn't. In the up coming release, is there a better way to do this than manually editing a file or having the user install a whole new gui?04:58
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dooglusminimec: to fix your problem, run this in a terminal:    sudo sed -i -e 's/^$/exit 0/' /var/lib/dpkg/info/mldonkey-server.prerm04:58
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ompaulMwafrica, have a look at this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto04:58
ybuntutank a lot04:58
dooglusminimec: it's one long line04:58
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Mwafricahold04:58
ompaul**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then04:58
gnomefreakbrb04:58
Mwafricai dont even have a browser for that...04:58
Mwafricai dont even have a browser for that...but im coping it down04:58
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minimecdooglus: I see04:59
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seliniumompaul: maybe that needs to go on a !+1  ?05:00
dooglusminimec: then just 'sudo apt-get remove mldonkey-server'05:00
h2when i try to install mysql-server i get this error, which repeats about every 10 seconds -> postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/251830.6338: No such file or directory, any ideas on why this is happenign , or am i doing somethign wrong?05:00
rseeberwell, i'm not using the beta, is there any way to do it in the current version???05:00
lucianahow can I start telnetd I just installed (I know it's insecure but I need it)05:00
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lucianaor, more generally, how can I start and stop services in ubuntu,   smthng in the form /foo/bar/bin/start servicename ?05:01
minimecdooglus: That did not work. F...05:01
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dooglusminimec: what happened?05:02
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[ex] hungry-hobodooglus: you still up bro? :)05:02
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h2luciana: sudo /etc/init.d/name start   maybe05:02
watson540dooglus: i finally got upgraded to 'dapper' and got the same error you reported05:02
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Stormx2umount: /media/Win98: device is busy <-- how can I tell what app is using it?05:03
dooglus[ex] : your nick won't complete in irssi05:03
Smacky_WolfDoes anyone have experiance with NFORCE sound? I have the drivers compiled and installed, yet aplay says there is nothing there05:03
watson540dooglus: unforyunately after installing automake 1.7 and making sure libtool was there it still gives me error :(05:03
minimecdooglus: for 'sudo sed -i ....' I got no message. When I tried to remove the package, I got the same message as before.05:03
dooglusStormx2: sudo fuser -c /media/Win9805:03
lucianah2, I looked there, but there is ssh, but not telnetd I just installed :(05:03
Stormx2dooglus: /media/Win98:        23161c 23162c <-- now what? o.O05:03
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dooglusminimec: can you pastebin the contents of the /var/lib/dpkg/info/mldonkey-server.prerm file?05:04
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h2luciana: oh ok05:04
dooglusStormx2: ps -ef | grep -e 23161 -e 2316205:04
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dooglusStormx2: you're cd'ed into that directory in a terminal I'll bet05:04
minimecdooglus: I am just looking at that file too05:04
dooglusminimec: line 2 should say 'exit 0' now - does it?05:05
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Stormx2dooglus: Nah its a java server, I put a & at the end of it, how do I kill it? That last command gave me this: barney   23162 23161  0 15:49 pts/0    00:00:00 java -Djava.ext.dirs=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/jre/lib/ext runTWOServer05:06
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dooglusStormx2: kill 23161 2316205:06
minimecdooglus: Well... it does not. I will change that manually. Well the script just wants to stop mldonley-server.05:06
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dooglusminimec: the script tries to kill it, but it's not running, so the script fails, which stops the remove from happening05:06
Stormx2Thanks dooglus, I mean uh, God05:07
jkeHi. I tried to resize my / partition. I booted a live-cd up and used gparted to resize, but the partition was not resized... no error messages :/ are there any alternative ways to do this?05:07
minimecdooglus: That's waht I guess too. I will change that.05:07
dooglusStormx2: you were in that directory when you ran the server, so the server is running in that directory, keeping it 'busy'05:07
watson540jke: did u make sure to 'apply' your resize?05:07
dooglusjke: try doing it with 'ntfsresize' - that'll give you an error message05:08
jkewatson540: yeah, i clicked the "apply" button, and waited until the changes on the partition was done05:08
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watson540jke: i would use 'parted' to do it then05:08
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jkedooglus: (just to be sure) even though it is a ext3 fs?05:08
dooglusjke: heh.  no then!  :)05:09
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dooglusjke: that'll teach me for not reading the whole problem :)05:09
jkedooglus: okay (why on earth did yopu think i had ntfs at my / partition :D)05:09
jkewatson540: okay, i will take a look at the man pages05:09
dooglusjke: um...05:09
Stormx2dooglus: Ah I see, Alright05:09
watson540jke: it should be pretty self explanatory , i have iused it without man pages before05:10
jkedooglus: sry, did not read your answer before hitting enter05:10
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jkewatson540: well, I prefer to be sure what i do when doing thinks to my /05:10
ubunixcan someone help me with firefox? i installed 1.5.0.3 to home/.firefox and when i double click firefox-bin, nothing happens05:10
watson540jke: yeh parted is not a program to 'play around' with heh :)05:11
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NoUse!tell ubunix about ff1.505:11
Carbon_Monoxideyou should run the shell script05:11
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Carbon_Monoxiderun sh ./firefox05:11
Stormx2I gotta boot into windows now ;_;05:11
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ubunixoh, so "run in terminal" doesn't work on that shell script?05:12
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floobitrunning Dapper F7: after adding05:12
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floobithttp://http.us.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free05:12
floobitto my sources.list, I upgraded the libc6  to v. 2.3.6-7.  Apparently, there's a dependency on tzdata 2006c-2, which when installing gives the following error message:05:12
floobitE: /var/cache/apt/archives/tzdata_2006c-2_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers', which is also in package locales05:12
floobitthis doesn't look like a serious problem (esp because I don't live in africa), is there a workaround?05:12
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lucianawhat's the name of the superdaemon? how can I restart it?05:13
NoUse!tell floobit about flood05:13
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gnomefreakfloobit: no pasting05:13
minimecdooglus: You made my day man. ;) Sorry about the time it took, but I had a nice discussion with the #debian people. Using debian sarge myself I am getting more and more amused about the arrogance you can find on #debian05:13
floobitsorry, don't know either of those things05:13
gnomefreakfloobit: use pastebin please05:13
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floobitsorry05:13
kane__hi... any GIMP users??? I need advice...05:13
pezHi guys, I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 and was wondering what is the best player to watch video steams, video files and dvds? I was think of using G-xine05:13
floobitwhat's flood?05:13
kane__Pez05:13
Smacky_WolfKane I use gimp05:13
NoUsefloobit what you just did05:13
gnomefreak!ff1.505:13
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:13
watson540minimec: haha, a 'nice chat' in #debian!! ROFL05:13
gnomefreakubunix: there you go05:14
dooglusminimec: I got added to #debian's quote database just now...  16:05 < dpkg> qotd167 is probably <dooglus> asg: the biggest package is linux-image-2.6.16-1-686.  I don't do any image processing, so I think\ it's probably safe to remove that one. <asg> dooglus: that's the kernel05:14
watson540they're a bunch of flamers05:14
NoUsefloobit you took about 10-15 linutes of text which flooded the screen05:14
floobitsorry bout that05:14
kane__Smacky_Wolf, I was wondering if there is an eqivalent of Photoshop's Render Difference clouds?05:14
watson540i only see 4 lines NoUse :)05:14
minimecdooglus: ;)05:14
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gnomefreaki see 905:14
pezHi Kane05:15
watson540my resolution is high i guess.. you gys must be running in 640x480 haha05:15
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ompaul!tell watson540 about resolution05:15
njalim still having trouble with ndiswrapper after reading the wiki, i have a DLink DWL-G122 D105:15
minimecdooglus: Where can I find that quote database?05:15
Kyl1hi all, looking for GCC, anyone know where?05:15
watson540thanks i know what resolution is :)05:15
dooglusminimec: I don't know.  I try not to spend too much time there myself, too05:16
Samuli^kyl1, sudo apt-get install build-essential05:16
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doogluskane__: http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=19105:16
gnomefreakKyl1: install build-essential05:16
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Kyl1put that in terminal05:16
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Samuli^aye.05:16
ompaul!tell Kyl1 about build-essential05:17
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nundido you know a good music-player in terminal (for mp3)?05:17
gnomefreakKyl1: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install build-essential05:17
chowellsnundi: mpg12305:17
siccnessor mpg32105:17
ompaulKyl1, sudo apt-get install build-essential <<<< that gets gcc if you want to do kernel stuff in 5.10 (breezy) then you should also add to that command gcc-3.405:18
jkenundi: I liked mpd, even though it miss some functions05:18
gnomefreakKyl1: it has gcc and make and most anything else you would need to compile/build packages05:18
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nundijke: it works with commands?05:18
derekSif i post my crontab entry, can someone just make sure i am doing it right?05:18
kane__dooglus, thanx pal... is this monchromatic or is it color only?05:18
nundilike play hello.mp305:18
pezDo i use MPlayer or G-Xine?05:18
gnomefreaknundi: iirc mpg123 is a terminal based app05:18
doogluskane__: I've no idea, I jfgi'ed it05:18
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derekSif my crontab entry is "0 0 1 * * command" will it happen on the first of every month?05:18
siccnessyeah, it is gnomefreak.05:18
nundiok, thanx05:19
gnomefreakubotu tell nundi -about mp305:19
jkenundi: mpd is just a music player daemon. you could use the client mpc to do "mpc play hello world.mp3"05:19
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Kyl1how many is using the new beta?05:19
NoUsewatson540 I'm running through an ssh session so it took up my whole screen05:19
kane__dooglus, ok I'll find out... thanx a milion..05:19
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dfgasi am05:19
ompaul!dapper05:19
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then05:19
njalndiswrapper doesn't have appeared to work on mt DWL-G122 USB adaptor05:19
gnomefreakKyl1: ask that in #ubuntu+105:19
siccnessmpg321 is already installed defautly iirc05:19
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Kyl1now the program is lookin for glib...05:19
nundianother question: how can i hide the terminal border??05:19
gnomefreakompaul: i was gonna ask you to add that to ubotu05:20
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siccnessnundi: not really, you need to use xterm05:20
gnomefreaksiccness: i dont think it is05:20
siccnessgnomefreak, hmm, not sure, mine seems to be.05:20
jkenundi: what WM/DE are you using?05:20
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gnomefreaksiccness: no its not installed by default05:21
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njalndiswrapper doesn't have appeared to work on my DWL-G122 USB adaptor05:21
gnomefreaksiccness: something you installed grabbed it05:21
googlerHow to save session when logging out in iceWM ?05:21
njali have tried the wiki05:21
Kyl1any ideas on where to find glib?05:21
floobitobviously I'm a nube, but is this the correct format for this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1412405:21
relachsHello! What is the current Live CD and what Java version does it have?05:21
gnomefreak!info mpg12305:21
ubotumpg123: (MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 0.59r-19 (breezy), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 256 kB05:21
nundii use ubuntu/gnome if this is what you want to know05:21
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siccnessHmm, you're right, gnomefreak.05:22
jkenundi: okaycat help then05:22
Stormx2floobit: Bummer.05:22
dooglusminimec: "/msg dpkg qotd" for the quotes database05:22
NoUseKyl1 its in synaptic, but its already installed05:22
Stormx2floobit: What are you trying to install?05:22
ompauldooglus, that is really off topic for #ubuntu05:22
gnomefreaksiccness: mp3,mpeg are non-free legally cant be installed by default05:22
Stormx2Wait05:22
minimecdooglus: thx05:22
floobitupgrade libc605:22
Stormx2floobit: You said :05:22
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jkeHeh, how did i make that strange ","-like char?05:22
dooglus!info libglib2.0-005:22
gnomefreakwe have dpkg bot in here?05:22
ubotulibglib2.0-0: (The GLib library of C routines), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 988 kB05:22
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floobituh, don't understand that character?05:23
siccnessTrue, gnomefreak.05:23
njal`05:23
dooglusKyl1: see that?  that's glib05:23
siccnessI must have installed it without realising. :|05:23
njaljke: you mean this one ` ?05:23
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dooglusgnomefreak: not here - but /msg doesn't care what channel he's on05:23
siccnessnundi: For removing the borders, you'll need to install eterm.05:23
siccnessBlah05:23
jkethis one: 05:23
njaljke: sorry got mistakene05:24
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salahwhat is the name of the gnome core package? (installing via apt)05:24
jkenjal: no problem05:24
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jkesalah ubuntu-desktop05:25
gnomefreaksalah: ubuntu-desktop will install gnome-core and so on05:25
kane__dooglus, where do I put (extract) the GIMP plugin??05:25
jke+05:25
jkesorry05:25
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njalanyone know why NDiswrapper ain't working on my DWL-G122 USB adaptor?05:25
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salahcan't find the package...05:25
gnomefreaksalah: all you will be there all day picking and choosing what gnome package you need next to have menu or so on05:26
Jeff1983i installed nautilus-open-terminal, but i dont see any menu option showing up05:26
gnomefreaksalah: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop05:26
gnomefreakJeff1983: right click on desktop05:26
Grout58whats ubuntu desktop?05:26
doogluskane__: I don't know, but I would guess /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins; or maybe ~/.gimp-2.2/plug-ins is better05:26
njal!ubuntu-desktop05:26
ubotusomebody said ubuntu-desktop was a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading05:26
gnomefreak!ubuntu-desktop05:26
salahthanks05:26
dooglussalah: there's a package 'gnome' which will bring in all the GNOME desktop stuff05:26
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Kyl1ok, im gettin this error:   configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***05:27
salahdooglus: yeah, I am trying to install as little as possible stuff :)05:27
Jeff1983gnomefreak - i still dont see any option on there about the terminal05:27
Samuli^salah, that's gnome-core for you then.05:27
dooglussalah: you need a ...-dev package - a development package05:27
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gnomefreakJeff1983: you might have to log out and back in again05:27
Samuli^and use aptitude when installing if you want to easily remove it later.05:28
NoUsenjal try the drive specified here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#D05:28
Jeff1983ok. ill try it. thanks.05:28
gnomefreakbrb05:28
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salahyeah, save it for next time, I have installed all now ;)05:28
salahthanks05:28
Kyl1any ideas on that error?05:28
dooglusKyl1: install libglib1.2-dev and try again05:29
njalNoUse: thanks, i shall look into that now05:29
salahKyl1: you must install a package named libglib1.2-dev05:29
kane__one more question... is there a shortcut for switching desktops??05:29
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dooglusKyl1: or libglib2.0-dev - that's possibly better05:29
salahdooglus was before me ;)05:29
Kyl1apt-get install libglib1.2-dev   ?05:29
salahyeah05:29
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dooglusKyl1: with a 'sudo'05:29
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Kyl1already in sudo mode05:30
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Kyl1couldnt find it.05:30
ompaulKyl1, sudo apt-get install libglib1.2-dev<< that exists05:30
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Kyl1heres what i put in:   root@zsn-server:/home/kyle/Desktop/xmms-1.2.10# apt-get install libglib1.2-dev05:31
ompaulKyl1, if your not seeing it do sudo apt-get update05:31
Kyl1and i got this back:   E: Couldn't find package libglib1.2-dev05:31
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ompaulKyl1, why are you root?05:31
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njalNoUse: however, there are many different drivers and i can't seem to find one matching my USBID05:31
ompaulKyl1, shortest road to breaking things05:31
Kyl1how do i un-root?05:32
dooglusKyl1: 'exit'05:32
ompaulKyl1, exit05:32
Kyl1ok05:32
dooglusKyl1: which version of ubuntu are you running?  (lsb_release -d)05:32
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Kyl1Description:    Ubuntu (The Dapper Drake Release) Development Branch05:33
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doogluskane__: does holding control and pressing the arrow keys switch desktops?05:33
gnomefreakits in main repo05:33
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gnomefreakim betting Kyl1 doesnt have the repos enabled05:33
ompaul!infol libglib1.2-dev dapper05:33
ubotuompaul: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:33
ompaul!info libglib1.2-dev dapper05:33
kane777dooglus, no...05:33
gnomefreakKyl1: can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin05:33
ubotulibglib1.2-dev: (Development files for GLib library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-10.1build1 (dapper), Packaged size: 153 kB, Installed size: 496 kB05:33
gnomefreakompaul: i just policyed it in dapper05:34
Kyl1ill try to05:34
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Kyl1here it is: http://pastebin.com/72075705:35
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dooglusKyl1: I think you need to "sudo apt-get update" - it sounds like the last time an update ran you weren't on-line - apt-get deletes its list of available packages when that happens,.05:35
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Kyl1i only installed this last night, if that may be a issue.05:36
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dooglusKyl1: try a 'sudo apt-get update' and see if that fixes it.  it won't do any harm05:36
gnomefreakdooglus: cron runs update get update on boot up05:36
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dooglusgnomefreak: only if it hasn't been done for a while, I think.  and if you're not on-line at the time it will delete its list of packages05:37
Kyl1ok done the update.05:37
=== softwork vou meter no meu broswer para rejeitar sites que contenham "1 de abril"
gnomefreakKyl1: the cdrom repo needs to have a # infront of it05:37
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Kyl1ok ill make the change05:37
gnomefreakKyl1: dapper by default adds 2 of them for some odd reason05:37
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morphihelp: i try to installt glib... ./configure works fine   make works fine   but make install doesnt work -> permissin denied....but im logged in as admin :(05:38
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Stormx2morphi: You need05:38
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Stormx2morphi: sudo make install05:38
ompaul!br05:38
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.05:38
gnomefreakKyl1: also uncomment all the otehr deb lines except the backports ones05:38
dooglusmorphi: "sudo checkinstall" is better - it'll make you a .deb package05:38
Stormx2morphi: And you should never be logged in as root on an ubuntu machine05:38
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ompaulgnomefreak, launchpad :)05:39
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gnomefreaklaunchpad?05:39
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ompaulbug05:39
dooglusgnomefreak: that's where you should report the cdrom bug05:39
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lwizardlwhat does a filename listed in green with a * in front mean?05:40
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Kyl1how do i save this if its only for root05:40
gnomefreakdooglus: oh ok i wasnt even thinking about the05:40
gnomefreakthat05:40
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gnomefreakKyl1: click save than close than run sudo apt-get update05:41
Kyl1i cant save it, it wont let me05:41
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gnomefreakKyl1: you didnt open it with sudo i take it?05:41
Kyl1i dont know how lol05:41
doogluslwizardl: I guess it means that the file is executable.  isn't the * after it, not before?05:41
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ompaulKyl1, to edit the file >>gksudo gedit thatfile<<05:42
lwizardlno its before the file name05:42
dooglusKyl1: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:42
gnomefreakKyl1: what editor did you open it with?05:42
doogluslwizardl: how are you seeing that?  from 'ls'?  or in nautilus?  or where?05:42
gnomefreakdooglus: gksudo05:42
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dooglusgnomefreak: if you prefer.  sudo is fine too05:42
lwizardlkonqueor05:42
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||arifaXbut its .lst not list, isn't it?05:42
gnomefreakdooglus: no not for gui apps its really not05:42
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doogluslwizardl: ooh, right.  #kubuntu might be able to help05:43
gnomefreak!gksudo05:43
ubotuUse gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.05:43
Kyl1ok saved the changes05:43
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bzq666Do you know any peer2mail application for ubuntu ?05:43
morphin1 it works....anyone can tell me, why i needed "sudo make install"05:43
dooglusgnomefreak: if sudo scrambles your user account then that's a bug.  which application will scramble anything if run using sudo?05:43
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dooglusmorphi: "make install" installs stuff to directories which you don't have permission to write to05:44
dooglusmorphi: usually /usr/local/...05:44
||arifaXsoogius: it does scramble it sometimes... really!05:44
koolhead17hey can we make a USB distro out of UBUNTO05:44
koolhead17?05:44
morphibut what means "sudo"? sry i just started using linux05:44
ompaul!root05:45
dooglusmorphi: SuperUser DO - run the command as 'root' instead of as 'morphi'05:45
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.05:45
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morphiahhh well thanx alot05:45
ompaulmorphi, read that page ^^^^^^^ up a line or so about root05:45
morphi:P05:45
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guerrawhen i log a machine via ssh i have problems with the backspace, when i press it it overwrites not only a character but all the word, anyone know how can i fix it?05:45
||arifaXuh its .list - my fault05:45
dooglusmorphi: compare the output of "id" and "sudo id"05:45
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morphiwell05:46
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gnomefreakdooglus: gksudo was made to open gtk apps sudo was not made that way05:46
Kyl1ok after modding my sources.list file, what do i do?05:46
dooglusKyl1: did you try installing libglib1.2-dev since you ran the 'apt-get update' command?05:47
gnomefreakKyl1: sudo apt-get update05:47
Kyl1ahh the update...05:47
Kyl1sweet _____!05:47
pezukI'm trying to install a plugin for streamin video from my browser (firefox) for my media player totem-xine05:47
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doogluspezuk: enable the breezy-backports repository, update, then install totem-xine-firefox-plugin05:48
pezuki type 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin' but can not find the package.. ive enabled the additional repositories05:48
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Kyl1it has now stated05:48
Kyl1Package libglib1.2-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:48
Kyl1This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source05:48
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ompaulKyl1, you are on dapper are you not?05:49
Kyl1yes i am05:49
ompaulKyl1, well several hints were dropped the channel #ubuntu+1 is for dapper05:49
ompaulKyl1, so you would be dealing with people with the same software mostly05:49
dooglusKyl1: is line 8 still commented?  it needs not to be05:50
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kane777leaving... beye05:50
Kyl1ahh line 8...05:51
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salahhow do I get GNOME start? Already started GDM and logged in, the everything stops up05:51
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ompaulsalah, what kind of video card have you got?05:51
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salahIntel 815x (I don't know anything more than that)05:52
salahit's a laptop05:52
salahI think I miss some packages05:52
pezukdooglus: when you state 'backports', do you mean the universe and multiverse repositories?05:52
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rambo3backport backports05:53
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ompaulsalah, do this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << if you did not do >> sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop <<your paying the price now05:53
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gnomefreakpezuk: backports are the repos with the word backport in it05:53
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guerraanyone knows how to solve the backspace problems in ssh from an ubuntu machine to another?05:53
gnomefreakpezuk: there are repos for just universe and multiverse seprate than the backports05:53
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pezukgnomefreak: how do i add the back repos? sorry, im a complete n00b05:54
thesporeI think a recent update (past couple weeks) has broken compatibility with Zend Studio Client 4.0.1,  when I try to run it.. the Java proccess is initiated, but the app does not launch... any ideas as to what i could be?05:54
gnomefreakpezuk: what version of ubuntu are you on?05:54
doogluspezuk: I mean breezy-backports05:54
ompaul!tell pezuk about easysource05:54
salahompaul the desktop works fine.. gnome is just not loading05:55
ompaulpezuk, just check the link for the bot05:55
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salahthe login screen shows and I log in, but then nothing more happends05:55
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richiefrichanyone know whats  provides   hdiutil05:55
gnomefreaksalah: that would be an indication that its not fine05:55
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R1CHARDhello05:55
garyCan someone explain to me why this doesn't work: "sudo cd some_directory"05:55
pezukgnomefreak: im using 5.1005:55
dooglussalah: I've had that problem due to 'esd' before.  if I switch to a virtual console with control-alt-f1, run "pkill esd", then switch back to GNOME with alt-f7, it starts up05:56
garyIt just says "cd: no such command05:56
ompaulsalah, did you do >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< just humour me with an answer to that question05:56
dooglusgary: because cd isn't a command, it's a bash builtin05:56
salahgary: you don't need sudo for use of cd05:56
gnomefreakubotu tell pezuk about backports05:56
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salahompaul, yes I did05:56
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DaSkreec1is there an on screen keyboard?05:57
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dooglusgary: sudo runs one child process as root, and then the child process exits, leaving you where you were.  even if there was a cd command, it wouldn't do you any good, because the process which changed to a different directory would have died before you get to type your next command05:57
dooglusDanjo: gok05:57
dooglusDaSkreec1: gok05:57
voraistoshey guys, i was wondering... Some of my softs relly look bad (VLC, amsn, and others...) how should I set it up? to look better ?05:57
ompaulsalah, then you are not missing anything so did you carry out the previous command - >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << try it automagically once, if that fails the second time around choose VESA as the video card type05:57
pezukdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted?05:57
doogluspezuk: put the word 'breezy' between 'ubuntu' and 'breezy-backports'05:58
DaSkreec1dooglus: how do you get to it with out keyboard?05:58
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salahompaul: it works now, thank you05:58
dooglusDaSkreec1: um...  I don't know, I don't use GNOME05:58
DaSkreec1kute :)05:58
dooglusDaSkreec1: do you see 'accessability' or some such in any of the menus?05:59
DaSkreec1yeah just found it05:59
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dooglusDaSkreec1: where, for future reference?05:59
DaSkreec1it's not installed by default05:59
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dooglusDaSkreec1: ok, so you can install it using just the mouse in synaptic05:59
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DaSkreec1system ->pref-> assistive05:59
dudamy flash doesnt have sound, how to put sound in my flash plugin?06:00
mlehrerhow well does ubuntu handle a video card with 2 screens of different resolutions?06:00
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DaSkreec1dooglus: eXCEPT you  need  the keyboard for the password06:00
dooglusduda: that usually happens if something else was using the sound device when you started (the browser / the plugin)06:00
dooglusDaSkreec1: ugh!06:00
DaSkreec1yeah!!06:00
dudadooglus, owk, thanks!06:01
dooglusDaSkreec1: can you maybe use the mouse to copy and paste letters from other words to make up your password?06:01
mlehrere.g. if i click on a pdf in the 1600x1200 screen, will it be easy to move it to the 1024x1280 one?06:01
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DaSkreec1dooglus: good idea06:01
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dooglusDaSkreec1: I don't know if you can paste into that password box - the screen kind of locks up when gksudo is prompting you - but maybe it'll work06:01
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voraistosso, anyone? I think it is a graphic API thing.06:03
voraistosyea thats not very clear ;)06:03
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mweyou can paste into gksudo06:04
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voraistos:'(06:05
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cartAnyone knows if exist a solution to the problem with the ALi M5263 ethernet adapter?? (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=114416030211114&w=2)06:06
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pietro59buona sera a tutti06:06
ompaul!it06:07
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:07
voraistoslol ompaul06:07
pietro59ok scusa06:07
voraistoswas gonnadp it ;)06:07
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voraistosdo *06:07
ompaulvoraistos, we understand :)06:07
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voraistosompaul: hay maybe u can help me MR. guru06:08
minimecDid anyone of you install (compile) the ivtv driver into 'dapper'. Fallowing the install instructions I get a buildpackage error... I am sick of all this debugging.06:08
pezukthank you people, i have installed the totem-xine plugin for the backports :-) It's also updated a few pieces of software too06:08
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voraistosompaul: i have some softs, they really look bad06:08
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voraistosomaul: they look just like kype, but VLC for nome looks bad as well. I dont understand why06:09
ompaulvoraistos, try /msg ubotu resolution06:09
bjacksonHello06:09
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voraistoshum ?06:09
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pezukfirefox didnt reconise the totem-xine-plugin.. do i need to restart?06:09
[Utah] tristanbobdo people usually enable the Ubuntu Backports repository (it says that it is officially supported)06:09
voraistosompaul: no thats not it at all ;)06:10
ompaulvoraistos, if its not resolution, be aware that skype has fonts that are not from gnome, you need to play around with kde fonts to get that looking reasonable, the other one no idea06:10
[Utah] tristanbobI usually enable the Universe, and it works well06:10
mwepezuk: you probably need to create a symlink. did you upgrade ff manually?06:10
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DaSkreec1HAHA Found it06:11
voraistosompaul: yeah i know that. but thats not the problem.06:11
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voraistosompaul: even java softs look better06:11
Mitsurugican ubuntu open .BIN files?06:11
voraistosyea. it is compiled software, isnt it ?06:12
garythanks dooglus and salah06:12
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mweMitsurugi: chmod +x the file then run it06:12
Mitsurugiso i can download java to my desktop and it will install?06:12
ompaulvoraistos, coders dictate the looks, and there are times when they go for kde fonts it looks rubbish until you install kde fonts this I know06:12
pezukmwe: im trying to stream BBC UK's Apprentice.. it successfully streams WMV files but not RAM streams.. it says that it needs the realplayer plugin but surely totem-xne plays realmedia files?06:12
ompaul!java06:12
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:12
garyOfftopic question: What's the word that can be used like this: "write the <xxx> path" which would mean, instead of writing ./myfiles/ you would write /home/bob/myfiles06:13
ompaul!restricted06:13
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats06:13
garylike the full path, absolute path06:13
garycan't remember the wrod06:13
garyit MAY begin with an "R"06:13
ompaulpezuk,                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that one up there06:13
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tuxmaniac!info mplayer06:13
mwepezuk: yes I would think that was because of a missing codec06:13
tony_help, what it the command to reconfigure x?06:13
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tuxmaniac!mplayer06:13
ubotumplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106106:13
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XsPiDeRwhat's up with the UbuntuForums.Org?06:14
tony_help, what it the command to reconfigure x?06:14
ompaulXsPiDeR, no idea, #ubuntuforums maybe06:14
mweXsPiDeR: it's down or reeeeeeally slow06:14
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pezukmwe: i have the w32 codec(s) though?06:15
bjacksonI was trying to build my kernel using 'make gconfig' and was informed that gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0 are not installed.  In the Synaptic Package Manager, I could not find packages with any of the names.  How do I solve the problem?06:15
anmarOLA06:15
voraistosompaul:yea. do u know where i could find any info? because i want the gnome look for everything... even in firefox the "system" things (like the roller thing) look bad...(so grey, so squared, and so not user friendly)06:15
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mwepezuk: I don't know if that includes the codec you need06:15
anmarHEELO06:15
anmarLOVE06:15
ompaulvoraistos, you will have to dig into the source for that06:15
julia1does anyone know an icq client which supports the xstatus?06:16
voraistosompaul: really ?06:16
voraistosompaul: damn, i thougt it was working like windows or mac for that06:16
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tony_help, what it the command to reconfigure x?06:16
tony_help, what it the command to reconfigure x?06:16
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NoUse!tell tony_ about xorg06:16
ompaulvoraistos, its a compiled program you can check their xml files and see if you can get anything out of it, but your the first person I have seen who asked that (most likely won;t be the last)06:17
ericmoritz\0does anyone know how I can change the password of my default keyring?06:17
NoUsetony_ also, please don't repeat the question twice06:17
ompaulvoraistos, but at least you can compile them the way you like06:17
mwevoraistos: the menus in ff change here when I install a different theme06:17
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ompaultony_,  >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<06:18
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voraistosompaul: the thing is, for example VLC, in breezy looks bad, but in dapper it had the gnome look! how do u cal the system of "look", is it API thing?06:18
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ompaulvoraistos, no idea, that would be for a programmer :-)06:19
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ubuntu_salut tout le monde06:19
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ompaul!fr06:19
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:19
HymnToLife!fr06:19
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voraistos!fr06:19
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ompaulye are so slow :)06:19
tony_guess no one knows06:19
tony_oh well06:19
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mwevoraistos: afaik VLC is gtk1 at least the breezy version. the look of gtk1 apps usually suck pretty bad06:19
ompaultony_,  >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<06:19
tony_linux is easy to fuck up06:19
tony_back to windows xp at least i wont have to dick around with that to get it working correctly.06:19
ompaultony_, ^^^ I already said that and language is not called for06:19
ompaulopem,06:19
NoUsetony_ 3 people have sent you a response06:20
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tony_well guess what06:20
BLeSTcould anyone explain to me why i try to install 5.10 on my home computer it always seems to freeze installing GRUB?06:20
voraistosmwe: yea thx, it is the gtk thing !06:20
tony_im on a shitty terminal irc client and i cant see shit06:20
mwevoraistos: you can limit the pain somewhat by installing a different theme06:20
tony_after it scrolls past06:20
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mwevoraistos: install gtk-theme-switch for that06:20
tuxmaniac!info mplayer06:20
voraistosmwe: tx :)06:20
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NoUseI love people that come in here looking for help and pack an attitude06:21
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nono_join #ubuntu-fr06:21
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ompaulmwe got a wiki page for that?06:21
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mwevoraistos: the programs that gtk-theme-switch installs are called switch and switch2 for gtk1 and gtk206:22
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tuxmaniacHow will I disable this crappy Your battery is fully recharged pop up!!!!06:22
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mweompaul: for changing gtk themes?06:22
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ompaulmwe yeap06:22
tuxmaniacIt is coming up every 2 minutes06:23
=== voraistos wonders where we can say how much we love ubuntu, without being shot by Microsoft spies ?
mweompaul: no.06:23
bjacksonWhat are the names of the packages that contain gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0?06:23
BLeSTeverytime i try installing ubuntu the installer sits at 0% when its installing GRUB... any ideas?06:23
tuxmaniacvoraistos: Say it here!! Every body will hug you. :)06:23
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ompaulmwe, guess I got to play with it then :)06:24
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peruanohi, somebody knows how to set an email account in evolution from the beggining?06:25
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mweompaul: yeah. it's straight forward. sudo apt-get install gtk-theme-switch. then run switch or switch206:25
ompaulso I see06:25
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ompaulthis is fun06:25
gnomefreakompaul: what app?06:25
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gnomefreaknvm i see it06:26
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Mahmoud_Hello, Is 10 processes for gnome-pty-helper normal? (I am a new linux user)06:27
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marghihi, I installed and started  vsftpd  and when accessing in via   ftp localhost and logging in I can  cd succesfully.  But when doing "get" or "ls" it gives me  500 illegal port error any help?06:27
jdmpikeexit06:28
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Intangiranyone know how to get .. a viewer to work with .tga files?06:29
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Intangiri want a light viewer to browse my .tga image files06:29
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jmorahola06:29
jmoraholaa06:29
jmorahello06:29
Intangirgimp can open them.. but its not very convenient when yo need to browse over a bunch of them06:29
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Intangireog seems to crash when i try to open them06:30
gnomefreakjmora: #ubuntu-es  for spanish this is an english channel06:30
Intangirand gThumb viewer doesnt open them either06:30
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maryamany e mails06:30
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moitio/dev/dsp is reading as busy when i try and play songs in svn MPD, or Last FM player (and various other apps) - can anyone help?06:30
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gnomefreakmaryam: what do you mean?06:30
maryamcan i have someones e mail06:31
maryamcoz im bord06:31
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maryamwho is online06:31
gnomefreakmaryam: please join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask that this is a support channel only06:31
maryamok06:32
maryamfuck06:32
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NoUse!language06:32
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.06:32
messiahhola06:32
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Johnny_RGAlguien q sepa utilizar el putty06:32
Johnny_RG?06:32
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messiahuso ubuntu, y cada vez que arranco el pc tengoque instalar los drivers de NVIDIA porke petan las x, que puedo hacer'06:33
messiah?06:33
NoUse!es06:33
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:33
voraistos!es06:33
maryamsorry06:33
gnomefreakenglish in here please or join #ubuntu-es06:33
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maryami dint know what this chat thing was about06:34
maryami wont do that again06:34
root_____habl??quieres putty06:34
gnomefreakmaryam: this is a support channel only06:34
gnomefreakmaryam: for normal chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic06:34
moitio/dev/dsp is reading as busy when i try and play songs in svn MPD, or Last FM player (and various other apps) - can anyone help?06:34
mikebotmy totem player doesn't show video anymore, it's just a blue screen, anyone know how i can fix this?06:34
gnomefreakroot_____: #ubuntu-es06:34
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Jowi!printers06:35
ubotuprinters is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org06:35
mweroot_____: I have a bad feeling that you're on irc as root. don't do that06:35
gnomefreakmikebot: is that totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?06:35
root_____quieres q te ayude con putty06:35
mikebotgnomefreak, how can i check?06:36
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mikebotgnomefreak, Movie Player using xine-lib version 1.0.106:36
gnomefreakapt-cache policy totem-xine06:36
WarHi I am having problems with the master volumen..  I am using the alsa driver...   when a lower or mute the volumen .. and its does't do anything the one that works its the PCM volumen..06:36
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gnomefreakmwe: hes not06:36
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voraistosroot_____: yes do that ;)06:36
R1CHARDLePutty06:37
gnomefreak!es06:37
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:37
voraistosputty, isnt it a windows ssh client ?06:37
mwegnomefreak: really? /whois root_____ says: root@157.100.192.66 [root] 06:37
R1CHARDvoraistos, yes it's.06:37
voraistosperfect.06:37
gnomefreakmwe: look at the name06:37
gnomefreakmwe: under the ip06:38
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mikebotgnomefreak, you knwo how to fix this?06:38
voraistosheuy lets hack this guy' s box....... lol06:38
marghihow can I make a cd iso image from a directory tree?06:38
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R1CHARDlol06:38
softworkloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool06:38
gnomefreakmikebot: what totem are you using?06:38
mwegnomefreak: it doesn't show here06:38
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mikebotgnomefreak, in the about it says: Movie Player using xine-lib version 1.0.106:39
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gnomefreakmwe: under real name it shows me oot06:39
gnomefreakroot06:39
gnomefreakmikebot: dapper ?06:39
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mikebotgnomefreak, no06:39
fedora_goodhello everyone06:39
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gnomefreakmikebot: not off hand no when did it stop working?06:40
R1CHARDfedora_good need to banned06:40
R1CHARDlol06:40
mikebotgnomefreak, yesterday06:40
mindampim looking for a good mp3/wma PHP stream application... ive already tried kplaylist and mp3act, any other suggestions?06:40
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fedora_gooddoes Ubuntu supports Yum packet manager?06:40
mwegnomefreak: I don't know. I think the root@ip indicates he's logged on as root, if I'm not mistaken06:40
fedora_goodRichard i just luv Fedora06:40
gnomefreakfedora_good: no06:40
fedora_goodyiiiikkkess06:40
fedora_goodok06:40
fedora_goodty06:40
NoUsefedora_good apt-get is better anyway :-)06:40
R1CHARDfederic, not really06:41
R1CHARDaptitude is better06:41
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BLeSTi still need help getting  ubuntu installed :/06:41
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fedora_goodNoUse apt-get is good but i heard in Yum you can make your own repositories06:41
gnomefreakmwe: ircname  : root   that is why i say hes not06:41
NoUsefedora_good you can do that with apt too06:41
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fedora_goodNoUse ?????06:41
fedora_goodNoUse do u have a link that tells me how?06:41
gnomefreakfedora_good: R1CHARD  #ubuntu-offtopic please06:42
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sissi_hi all, I do an upgrade from breezy to dapper, the kernel 2.6.15 doesn't work and freeze on "Loading hardware drivers...", I download the dapper live CD and it's the same, how can I fix it ?06:42
gnomefreakubotut ell fedora_good about apt06:42
gnomefreaksissi_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for help with dapper please06:42
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gnomefreakBLeST: how far does the install get?06:43
NoUsefedora_good http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28606:43
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sissi_gnomefreak, ok sorry06:43
Johnny_RG?alguien q sepa como instalaar el ssh sin red06:43
gnomefreakubotu tell fedora_good about apt06:43
BLeSTgnomefreaks: installing grub.. sits at 0% indefinately06:43
Johnny_RGdiganme los pasos please06:43
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gnomefreakJohnny_RG: #ubuntu-es06:43
fedora_goodNoUse ty06:43
fedora_goodgnomefreak ty06:43
R1CHARDgnomefreak, why?06:43
gnomefreakBLeST: i would try it again06:44
BLeSTi've tried 10 x now06:44
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gnomefreakR1CHARD: apt vs yum should not be in this channel06:44
BLeSTkeeps stopping at installing GRUB06:44
moitio/dev/dsp is reading as busy when i try and play songs in svn MPD, or Last FM player (and various other apps) - can anyone help?06:44
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gnomefreakBLeST: did you check the md5 of the iso?06:44
R1CHARDisn't apt vs yum06:44
R1CHARDis apt-get vs aptitude06:44
BLeSTgnome: yea it seemed fine but i can always retry another burn wh en i get home this evening06:44
gnomefreakR1CHARD > aptitude is better06:45
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R1CHARDRealle, is better than apt-get06:45
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wasabi__Trying to set up NFS.... getting RPC: Program not registered06:45
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gnomefreakubotu tell wasabi__ about nfs06:46
peruanohi, somebody knows how to set the e mail evolution?06:46
gnomefreakwasabi__: the last link in that should give you what you need06:46
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gnomefreakperuano: what part are you stuck on?06:47
R1CHARDhey gnomefreak, what happend?06:47
gnomefreakR1CHARD: i removed you for getting smart06:47
R1CHARDdo you have a problem with the peruvians?06:47
peruanoi got this message , after i set everything06:47
peruanoUnable to connect to POP server pop.gmail.com.06:47
peruanoError sending password: -ERR [AUTH]  Username and password not accepted.06:47
wasabi__gnomefreak: These are instructions for stuff I've already done.06:48
gnomefreakperuano: did you use @gmail.com?06:48
peruanohold down please gnomefreak06:48
MetaMorfoziSanybody tell me a howto please, that said how can i install the newest xgl on my kubuntu breezy!?06:48
MetaMorfoziS(i has downloaded a package iso06:49
MetaMorfoziS)06:49
MetaMorfoziSbut i can't use it06:49
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gnomefreakR1CHARD: i asked you to go to offtopic because this wasnt the place for that disscusion getting smart with me is what got you removed lets not do it again06:49
gnomefreakMetaMorfoziS: you cant install xgl on breezy06:49
R1CHARDbut I didn't speak another topi06:49
MetaMorfoziSwhy? i red a lot of forums some humans do it06:49
R1CHARDapt-get and aptitude is topic of Ubuntu06:49
R1CHARDwhat's the problem06:50
gnomefreakR1CHARD: thats not the convo im talking about and you know it06:50
gnomefreak R1CHARD > isn't apt vs yum06:50
sbalneavR1CHARD: I'd drop it if I were you.06:50
gnomefreak12:45 <         R1CHARD > is apt-get vs aptitude06:50
gnomefreaknow i would suggest you stop06:51
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R1CHARDyes, I didn't continue with yum06:51
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Angel_Dexwhere can i get a list of video drivers 5.10 has?06:51
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mindampanyone?06:51
R1CHARDin other side, show me the probes06:51
gnomefreakmindamp: ?06:51
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: what driver are you looking for?06:52
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Mahmoud_ubotu tell Mahmoud_ about nfs06:52
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R1CHARDgnomefreak, bye bye06:52
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R1CHARDYou are one of the abusser of their powers in the world06:52
njali need some help compiling the latest NDiswraper06:52
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sbalneavAngel_Dex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards might help you06:52
R1CHARDYou don't have nothing of power06:52
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Angel_Dexgnomefreak Im looking to update my Video card to somthing alittle newer and better just to be up to date06:53
R1CHARDis only a channel06:53
R1CHARDbye06:53
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R1CHARDI won't return06:53
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R1CHARDwon't necesary06:53
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mlehreris anyone here using a dual head display06:53
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Angel_Dexwhos thatyou just banned?06:53
Angel_Dexlol06:53
mindampls06:53
peruanognomefreak, are u there06:54
gnomefreakperuano: yes06:54
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Angel_Dexsbalneav =o that looks like exactly what i needed thank ya06:54
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peruanocould u explain me, what is wrong with this06:54
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gnomefreakperuano: make sure you used pop.gmail.com for the incomming server and smtp.gmail.com for outgoing server06:54
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coleahello, i screwed up mysql, i tried to upgrade it to 5.0, and now the server wont start, how can i completely remove mysql from my system, to do a new install via Adept? im using Ubuntu Breezy... thanks06:54
korven2003what is the name of the package that contains glgears?06:55
gnomefreakperuano: what is your email name that you used06:55
peruanoyes, i typed like that06:55
slackernperuano: just to check have you enabled it on gmail so you can use pop3?06:55
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gnomefreakkorven2003: glxgears?06:55
peruanoit;s only appear pop06:55
marco__hi i have a problem with audio driver06:56
sbalneavcolea: do a dpkg -l | grep mysql, then do an aptitude purge <pkglist> obtained from the first step.06:56
marco__when i tr this http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=.&chip=CMI8330&module=cmi8330#intro06:56
peruanono, slackern06:56
gnomefreakperuano: what only appears as pop?06:56
peruanoi didnt06:56
peruanoyes06:56
marco__i recived this error from gcc06:56
coleasbalneav , thanks, ill try that06:56
gnomefreakperuano: go into gmail settings and set that please06:56
slackernperuano: Go to Settings->Forwarding and POP and enable pop access there. settings in gmail webpage.06:56
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marco__checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables06:57
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marco__you can help me?06:57
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MisterNhi06:57
Angel_DexThese are all knew expensive video cards TT_TT i only wanna spend like 50$ just to get somthing better then my rage pro ultra 12806:57
gnomefreakmarco__: sudo apt-get install build-essential06:57
peruanook, let me do it06:57
coleasbalneav , i had mysql 4.1 installed, then i tried to install 5.0 from source, not using apt, does that leave any extra files or directories to be removed?06:57
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gnomefreakAngel_Dex: my nvidia was 60 dollars06:57
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Angel_Dexgnomefreak What one?06:57
sbalneavcolea: If you do the purge, it should remove everything.  Config files, data, the whole shebang06:57
gnomefreaknvidia fx 520006:58
korven2003gnomefreak how do i show the fps in glxgears?06:58
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gnomefreakkorven2003: glxgears -printfps06:58
slackern!glxgears06:58
ubotuTo display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"06:58
coleasbalneav , ok, let me try that06:58
Angel_Dexgnomefreak hmmm ok was it hard to set up in 5.10?06:58
gnomefreakslackern: mines faster ;)06:58
korven2003weee 8000fps =)06:59
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: no took less than 10 mins06:59
marco__thx06:59
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slackerngnomefreak: :p yeah but mines easier to type for me :P06:59
gnomefreaklol06:59
peruanook guys, i got 2 options06:59
Angel_Dexgnomefreak you nistalled the 3d binary thing right?06:59
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gnomefreakperuano: enable pop should be the one06:59
korven2003does the videooverlay option affect the 3dd performance or is it just 2d?07:00
gnomefreak!nvidia07:00
gnomefreak^^^ Angel_Dex07:00
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia07:00
gnomefreakwhen it posts07:00
peruanoi got forwarding and pop download07:00
Jowi!gutenprint07:00
ubotuJowi: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:00
gnomefreakwhat are the 3 choices i cant get in mine right now07:00
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peruanoin pop download option is where i have enable pop for all e mail07:00
slackernEnable POP for all mail and in the dialogue underneath "keep Gmail's copy in the inbox" is what i use.07:01
peruanook07:01
Angel_Dexgnomefreak, "Some video chipsets have buggy VGA BIOS implementations; they may render text consoles incorrectly" Do you have this problem with your card?07:01
gnomefreakperuano: enable pop for all mail07:01
gnomefreaki use archive gmails copy ;)07:01
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gnomefreakAngel_Dex: nope i dont07:01
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Angel_Dexgnomefreak, Ah ok ^_^ I might just get that one then Many thanks07:01
slackerngnomefreak: i use the webpage quite often so nice to see whats new there when im not at my pc07:02
gnomefreakyw07:02
gnomefreakah i was there yesterday adding another gmail account and setting it up for thunderchicken but i cant remember the way its worded07:02
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peruanoi got to restart, after this07:02
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gnomefreakperuano: no07:02
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peruanoso, still doesnt work07:03
peruanothe same07:03
gnomefreakperuano: you have to restart evolution not the pc07:03
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peruanook07:03
gnomefreakperuano: what is the user name you used?07:03
Jowi!info cupsys-driver-gutenprint07:03
brotherJohn1234and your passwort, please :)07:03
gnomefreakis it bleh or bleh@gmail.com07:04
gnomefreakJowi: issues?07:04
gnomefreakubotu tell Jowi about print07:04
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magical_trevskyanyone know how to find out my PCs mac address from the terminal/07:04
moitio/dev/dsp is reading as busy when i try and play songs in svn MPD, or Last FM player (and various other apps) - can anyone help?07:04
NoUsemagical_trevsky ifconfig07:04
gnomefreakbrotherJohn1234: please dont kid like that someone may not know you joking07:04
Jowignomefreak: not yet. dad-in-law on the hunt for a printer at a resonable price that work well with linux. found an epson that seems to be supported with gutenprint07:04
gnomefreakmagical_trevsky: ifconfig07:04
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gnomefreakJowi: my epson 64 works wonders07:05
wimsmagical_trevsky,  can't you do an ifconfig ?07:05
Jowignomefreak: think it was a all-in-one stylus DX425007:05
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gnomefreakJowi: if you go to the link ubotu sent you the first one is hardware i would start there ;)07:06
Mintyhow do I get to see my window partion and files  ???07:06
Mickehi all im very new on linux (my 2 day), I just wounder if this is a good place to get help if i need?07:06
gnomefreakMicke: yes07:06
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peruanognomefreak, in the forwarding option, it;s have to be with a check on disable forwarding07:07
XiXaQhow can I see what IP address my NIC has been assigned by the DHCP server?07:07
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Jowignomefreak: yes, I've come to the conclusion that it is supported (at linuxprinting.org - nothing found at the ubuntuwiki) and now doing research for gutenprint. did you need any additional drivers for cups need to be installed for the one you have?07:07
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slackernMicke: you could also join the channel #ubuntu-se to talk with swedish people :)07:07
Mystery47Mickey: Yes!07:07
Mickeok thx07:07
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Mystery47sorry Micke...:(07:07
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adrian__jest ktos z polski ?07:07
slackern!pl07:07
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl07:08
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JowiXiXaQ: in a terminal: "ifconfig"07:08
XiXaQthanks07:09
marco__how i install kernel sources with apt?07:09
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gnomefreakubotu tell marco__ about kernel-source07:10
HymnToLifemarco__> sudo apt-get install linux-source-<your kernel version here>07:11
gnomefreakmarco__: your pm has instructions07:11
outlawcrookok i cant get the x server back upand going..I have tried the sudo dpkg-reconfiguer xserver-xorg it goes through its steps but when i reboot still will not load07:11
outlawcrook???07:11
HymnToLifeoutlawcrook> any error message ?07:11
marco__thx07:11
kujaWhat's the specific error?07:11
gnomefreakmarco__: yw07:12
outlawcrooki can let it try and load then come back and tell ya07:12
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Jowignomefreak: do you know if gutenprint is the replacement for gimp-print?07:12
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dmesghi07:13
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gnomefreakJowi: they are seprate07:13
dmesgany one recomend hula?07:13
gnomefreakseperate07:13
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wimsdoes anybody know about an easy to install Zope for Ubuntu ?07:13
outlawcrookwill brb in a few07:13
gnomefreakwims: sudo apt-get install zope?07:13
peruanognomefreak, i still dont have pop3 in the options, and i already enable pop for all my email07:14
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gnomefreakperuano: delete the emails accounts set with evo and redo them my evo is letting me add pop to it07:14
wyattwarehi all.  has anyone had any luck with setting up ubuntu for fax receive and voice messageing?07:14
marco__ Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.12-9-386 .... why?07:14
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wimsgnomefreak,  problem is that i want v2.707:14
wimswhich was released in 200407:14
gnomefreakperuano: it might just say pop not pop307:14
peruanook,07:14
peruanook07:15
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gnomefreakwims: what version do you have in repos?07:15
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gnomefreak!info zope07:15
ubotuzope: (Open Source Web Application Server), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 2.6.4-1.6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2554 kB, Installed size: 13848 kB07:15
gnomefreak!info zope dapper07:16
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gnomefreakwims: i would look on zope site for a .deb file07:16
ProN00bhow do i ignore all incoming icmp packets ?07:16
wimsok07:16
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kaitsuhello07:17
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ICEI can't get my internet connection to work07:18
rosenlmao07:18
ICEI reset my switch and not it doesn't work07:18
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rosenyou are here ?07:18
rosen:)07:18
ICEwindows comp07:19
rosenew07:19
NoUseICE do you have an IP address?07:19
root_____una pregunta07:19
ICEno07:19
NoUse!es07:19
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:19
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ICEnot on my nix box07:19
NoUseICE do you usually get it from DHCP?07:19
kaitsuubuntu is best07:19
ICEyes07:19
nox-HandI am making a usplash image, but I don't know how to convert my PNG image (( just a simple black / white png, but the black/white change is smooth, so no useable)) to a 16 colour PNG. Can anyone help?07:19
wyattwarehi all.  has anyone had any luck with setting up ubuntu for fax receive and voice messageing?07:19
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NoUseICE try running 'sudo dhclient eth0'07:20
ICEis there a way to release it with linux or no07:20
JRGalguien me ayuda como agregar permisos de escritura a archivos para otros usuarios en linux ubuntu07:20
JRG??????????07:20
ICEk07:20
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NoUse!es07:20
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:20
gnomefreakJRG: #ubuntu-es07:20
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kaitsudoes anybody knows drivers for canon pixma mp150 machine07:20
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doubletwistAnyone here use backuppc?07:21
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peruanognomefreak, it's working now, thank u07:21
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peruanolet me ask u this07:21
gnomefreakperuano: YW07:21
ICEk NoUse I'm getting a subnet now07:22
peruanoall this e mail, where they gonna storage,07:22
peruanoin my hdd07:22
NoUseICE just a subnet? no ip?07:22
ICEnow what can I do07:22
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ICEno ip07:22
gnomefreakperuano: you will have a copy left on gmail.com and i think evolution stores emails in your home dir07:22
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gnomefreakperuano: not real sure on where though07:23
NoUseICE I'd try assigning a static IP via System -> Admin -> Networking and see if that works07:23
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peruanothanks any ways07:23
Jowiperuano: if you haven't set up anything special it will probably be in /var/mail/username as one big file.07:23
coldnessi cant get my sound blaster live 24bit sound card to work on ubuntu linux07:23
gnomefreakperuano: its /home/username/.evolution/mail07:24
ICEnever had to before07:24
coldnessubuntu forum07:24
ICEmight be my switch07:24
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peruanothay are not there, so it's good07:25
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coldnessi cant get my sound blaster live 24bit sound card to work on ubuntu linux can anyone help me07:26
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kaitsudrivers for canon pixma mp 150 printer ???????07:26
Rotundcan someone tell me what the app-install-data-commericial will be for?07:26
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Rotundcoldness: is it an EMU10K or the Crystal audio one?07:27
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NoUseRotund thats a dapper question, please direct it to #ubuntu+107:27
peruanook guys, it's not in both home and var07:27
peruanoit's good for me , cause my hdd is really short07:28
Rotundcoldness: do an `lspci` on the terminal07:28
Jeff1983is there a way to make the nautilus default to be "view as list"07:28
wimswhich package is that mp3 codec package again?07:28
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RotundJeff1983: it's in the preferences of nautilus07:28
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peruanognomefreak,07:28
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Hsoquestion... is the person who yesterday told me to download Kanotix Linux to check my network configuration, here?07:28
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gnomefreakperuano: ?07:28
Rotundwims: for the best one, goto fluendo.com and download their one (it's free)07:28
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Rotundwims: it'll actually be licensed07:29
peruanoi use to program in C, but a few years ago, and know, i install ubuntu in my pc, because i want to know how to program in linux07:29
wimsRotund thanks07:29
peruanosorry i mean used07:29
P3L|C4N0greetings07:29
Jeff1983thanks Rotund07:29
Hsoperuano, - afaik, you need to install alot of GCC packages that are in Synaptic07:30
peruanohow can i get a good start in linux programming07:30
HsoI don't know :(07:30
Hsohave you tried google?07:30
highvoltageperuano: there's a guide installed on your system, called dive into python :)07:30
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mweperuano: you can program in C in linux. ansi programs will work without changes07:30
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daryl_!ldconfig07:31
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, daryl_07:31
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Jowiperuano: "sudo apt-get build-essential" will give you a compiler and stuff07:31
nox-Hand!tea07:31
ubotunox-Hand: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:31
nox-Hand!4207:31
ubotunox-Hand: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:31
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daryl_Does anyone know what "ldconfig" does?  I thought it was the command to reset my graphics card.  but i think I messed up my glx extensions by using it.07:31
visik7does firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu2 from dapper compile smoothly on breezy ?07:31
nox-Hand Bah, that bot needs to read more Douglas Adams07:32
peruanowhera can i get that jowi07:32
gnomefreakdaryl_: i think thats a library config command07:32
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gnomefreakubotu tell visik7 about ff1.507:32
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daryl_gnomefreak: hrm, so that has nothing to do with my problem then... ok thanks : )07:32
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Centaur5How can I mount an external usb hd with a fat32 partition?07:33
peruanohighvoltage, where is that manual, under what file07:33
Rotundwims: are you on dapper or breezy?07:33
Jowiperuano: you get it with the command i just gave you. it install a compiler and all stuff you need to do at least basic compiles07:33
daryl_gnomefreak: do you know what to do when your GLX extensions are damaged?07:33
wimsI'm on hoary actually07:33
NoUseCentaur5 mine just shows up on the desktop when I plug it in07:33
Jowi!build-essential07:33
ubotu[build-essential]  a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info07:33
visik7gnomefreak: I don't want to install the one provided by mozilla foundation07:33
Jowi!gcc07:33
ubotuit has been said that gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'07:33
Rotundwims: the fluendo won't work then (for gstreamer 0.10)07:33
visik7gnomefreak: I want a deb with dependancies07:33
jessikahas anyone been able to run epsxe on dapper?07:33
wimsRotund, k07:33
Centaur5NoUse: Really?  That's odd, I've never had that happen with an external usb device.07:34
daryl_!glx07:34
ubotudaryl_: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:34
gnomefreakvisik7: you should its faster than ubuntu version07:34
daryl_!extension07:34
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, daryl_07:34
NoUseCentaur5 you're running breezy?07:34
visik7gnomefreak: I don't need fast program I need a clean system07:34
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Centaur5NoUse: Dapper, I know it's detected as /dev/sdb so I tried sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /home/user/temp but it says it doesn't exist.07:34
gnomefreakvisik7: either way you have to keep your version of ff07:35
Rotundwims: you want: gstreamer0.8-mad07:35
Rotundwms: it's in universe07:35
Rotundwims that is07:35
gnomefreakits not gonna make it messy or dirty07:35
visik7gnomefreak: ok I'll compile ti07:35
NoUseCentaur5 run sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb07:35
daryl_gnomefreak: do you know what to do when your GLX extensions are damaged?07:35
wimsRotund, yep, i found it by doing some googling, but thanks anyway07:35
gnomefreakdaryl_: nope havent run into that ever07:35
Centaur5NoUse: Was that supposed to output something?07:35
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NoUseCentaur5 that outputs any partiions found on the device07:36
daryl_i'm getting a message 'extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".'07:36
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NoUseCentaur5 if it doesn't output anything, it didn't find any partitions07:36
Centaur5NoUse: Well shoot, I guess it's not going to work.07:36
daryl_Anyone know how to fix the problem with extension GLX missing?07:36
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NoUseCentaur5 are you sure data is on the drive?07:36
visik7Centaur5: ATI ?07:36
Centaur5NoUse: Thanks though.  I have a PC Card hd should it work the same way?07:36
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Jowidaryl_: you're probably having a driver problem (not installed or wrong one installed or a non-supported video card). see !nvidia or !ati for more info07:37
Centaur5I just pulled it out of my desktop yesterday07:37
highvoltageperuano: file:///usr/share/doc/diveintopython/html/index.html07:37
NoUseCentaur5 not sure about PC Card HDs07:37
highvoltageperuano: open that in firefox07:37
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Centaur5visik7: I have a nvidia video card07:37
daryl_Jowi: its a sis card.  it was working the other day, and all of a sudden stopped working.  I figure i did something to damage it.07:37
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visik7Centaur5: strange07:37
outlawcrookok i am back07:37
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outlawcrookhope i got what was needed for why my xserver is not loading07:38
Centaur5NoUse: Alright, I've never been able to find anything about a pc card hd.07:38
daryl_Jowi: I followed the instructions at !xorg07:38
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daryl_!xorg07:38
ubotufrom memory, xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html07:38
Centaur5NoUse: So I have a 5 gig hd I never use  :)07:38
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Jowidaryl_: ...and you are sure you're using the correct driver and chose "glx" module in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?07:38
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daryl_hrm now that i'm not sure about.  glx module.  i'll go check07:38
outlawcrookthere is this  EE Unable to find a valis frambuffer device07:39
outlawcrookEE nv(0) failed to open framebuffer device07:39
Centaur5NoUse: Well thanks for your help, I'll try plugging it into a different windows desktop.07:39
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SkeletonixIf I write text,in gnuplot, which is longer then one line, the text diveded into to two line(line wrapped). Yes, it's normal but I can move with cursor only in the lower line. When I hold left arrow (key) curor stops on top of the line and doesn't continue to previous one.07:39
Skeletonix07:39
SkeletonixIt's a little bit problem, allmost every instruction is longer then gnome-terminal window . Pleas, how can I fix it?07:39
peruanohighvoltage, ok07:39
outlawcrookusing config file etc/xii/xorg.conf07:40
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peruanohow can i get the command line07:40
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outlawcrookand then there is07:40
Hsoperuano,  - in ubuntu?07:40
peruanoyes07:40
iveqyhi, Short question just... What is the name of the NIS server package for ubuntu? I only found the client package...07:40
Hsogo to Applications > Accessories > Terminal07:40
gnomefreakperuano: applications>accessories>terminal07:40
Jowidaryl_: you might need to install one of the restricted-modules packages as well to get it working. for a list of available ones: "apt-cache search -n restricted"07:40
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Madkisshi all; after plugging in a USB mass storage devic, where will Ubuntu mount it? /mnt/<name_of_the_volume>?07:41
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Dani_FilthHi07:41
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iveqyMadkiss: no /media/07:41
JowiMadkiss: /media07:41
peruanoterminal server client07:41
Madkissso /media/<name_of_the_volume>?07:41
Dani_Filthplease someone can give me the default gtk color of GDM ?07:41
outlawcrookusr/xllr6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.0 no symbols found07:41
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Badmanyo07:42
outlawcrookusr/xllr6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.0 no symbols found07:42
peruanoi dont have it under that07:42
pyroticrichiefrich ?07:42
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outlawcrookusr/xllr6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0 no symbols found07:42
Dani_Filth:'(07:42
Hsoperuano, - you must have07:42
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outlawcrookdoes that help whyu my xserver is not starting07:42
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barbarahello, can you tell me how i can know my ip address ? i'm behind a router07:43
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Hsobarbara,  - www.whatismyip.com tells you07:43
lppctabarbara: check the webpage for your router, it should have a status section which contains the ip address07:43
peruanono, i just have : archive manager, calculator, character map, dictionary, and text editor07:43
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Mickewitch progam do i use to write my code in (im trying to program some c/c++)?07:44
peruanounder app/acc/07:44
lppctamicke: gcc/g++07:44
outlawcrookanyone07:44
Hsoperuano,  - o.o it should be the thing above text editor.. if you don't have it... you may be using an old version of ubuntu? which version are you using?07:44
outlawcrook????07:44
daryl_Jowi: I did the apt-cache search -n restricted command.  I am not quite sure what I am supposed to be looking for.07:44
gnomefreakMicke: for beginners i would go with anjuta or kdevelop depending what desktop your using07:44
peruanoi got it now, it's under app/system tools/terminal07:44
gnomefreakperuano: what version of ubuntu do you have?07:45
Jowidaryl_: you will get a few choices of which you might want to install. it depends on the kernel you have. "uname -r" will give you the kernel you have installed07:45
lppctagnomefreak: actually gcc is easier than using all those bloated IDE's :)07:45
barbarathanks guy, i'll try this07:45
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gnomefreaklppcta: gcc doesnt write anything it compiles it07:45
peruanoi got it, but it;s under acc/sys tools/terminal07:45
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Jowidaryl_: but only chose one of them07:46
Mickeok, im very new here i just installed ubuntu so i dont know witch desktop im useing....07:46
rosenHey.. While trying to install wine I got this error /home/rosen/.setup4710: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:46
rosen ... What package am I in need of ? .. there is many libgtk :O07:46
gnomefreakperuano: thats why i ask what version you are on07:46
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lppctagnomfreak: oh, my bad, thought he was asking for a compiler07:46
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Hsoperuano,  - that's very strange.. are you using a beta of the new version?07:46
_extricate_!SSL07:46
ubotu_extricate_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:46
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peruanolet me see07:46
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gnomefreakperuano: afaik breezy started putting terminal in appl;ications>accesories>terminal07:46
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pyroticAnyone know how to get aMSN sounds to work?07:47
gnomefreakperuano: uname -r07:47
peruanoversion 5.0407:47
Hsoah...07:47
Hsoi'm using 5.10(i think)07:47
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gnomefreakperuano: ok thats what i thought07:47
Hsoperhaps you need to update?07:47
peruanowhat?07:47
barbarathought it was a page for blonde, but it seems to work :) cool07:47
daryl_Jowi: I am using Kernel: 2.6.12-10-386, according to uname command.  What do i need to do to download the item I'm needing?  I am sorry, I just don't quite understand what you were suggesitng I do.07:47
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gnomefreakperuano: i would think about  upgrading to 5.1007:48
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peruanohow can upgrade it07:48
gnomefreakubotu tell peruano about upgrade07:48
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outlawcrookcan someone helpp me please with getting xserver back up07:48
gnomefreakperuano: your pm will tell you and please follow the first link07:49
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Jowidaryl_: the "restricted" modules may contain the xgl part for your video card. when you "apt-cache search -n restricted" do you find a package called "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386"?07:49
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outlawcrookwas working great at friends house till i came home and hooked upto my monitor07:49
lukehow do I share a folder with a windows computer?07:49
gnomefreakoutlawcrook: i would love to but you need to give me more to go on07:49
outlawcrookthen tried to get it to load it07:49
daryl_Jowi: yes i do07:49
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blazedoes anyone know why xmms doesn't play files, that are on another pc on the network?07:49
outlawcrookwhat ya need07:49
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barbarathanks and good evening07:49
blazeand.. i play them with totem..07:49
blazebut i want xmms :), solution?07:49
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Jowidaryl_: try to install it "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386"07:50
gnomefreakoutlawcrook: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure the moniter is yours not your friends07:50
pyroticJowi - Hey, you helped me with 'wolfet' just FYI 'nickrud' was wondering what we did.. but I forgot, also, do you know how to get it to download the maps when joining a server?.. that's my next issue.. :) -- No need to answer quick, I see your helping others, I can wait.07:50
daryl_jowi: wow didn't realize that was the package name.07:50
daryl_jowi: thank you07:50
Jowinp daryl_07:50
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daryl_jowi: it says its already the newest07:50
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lukehow do I share a folder with a windows computer?07:50
outlawcrookyea i tried that but still comes back up after it get done and i reboot with xserver not loading07:50
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shylockHallo i tried the easyubuntuscript and checked some boxes and told it to run, a few progress bars came up and finished but nothing seems to be installed07:50
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gnomefreakdaryl_: are you trying for headers or source?07:51
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Jowidaryl_: then I don't know what is going on. :-/07:51
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daryl_gnomefreak: pls rephrase the question?07:51
james_can anyone anwser a quick question for me07:51
outlawcrookanyway i can get to the log file and that drive from in XP pro07:51
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rosenlibgtk-1.2.so.0 ... can anyone tell me what package that is part of ?07:51
daryl_jowi: well thanks for the valiant try : )07:51
gnomefreakdaryl_: are you looking for kernel source or kernel headers or kernel restrictedd modules?07:51
james_with ubuntu do i want to dl rpm files or tgz files07:51
pyrotic!ask07:51
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.07:51
Jowipyrotic: we installed the correct drivers, modules and enabled dri and glx and stuff07:51
gnomefreakjames_: try to find .deb files please07:52
Jowi:)07:52
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blazedoes anyone know why xmms doesn't play files, that are on another pc on the network?07:52
blazeand.. i play them with totem..07:52
daryl_gnomefreak: dunno.  I was just trying to follow Jowi's suggestion.  what I'm trying to do is resolve the error message 'extension GLX missing on display'07:52
nightshiftyes .deb is better... rpm is for redhat07:52
james_the programe i am useing does not have .deb files07:52
blazebut i want xmms :), solution?07:52
pyroticJowi ah, alright..07:52
gnomefreakjames_: give me an idea on what app your looking for maybe i can help you find one07:52
lukehow do I share a folder with a windows computer?07:52
james_it is called echolinux07:52
gnomefreakdaryl_: oh ok07:52
james_it is the linux ver of echolink07:52
nightshiftyou can still convert it with alien though07:52
james_for ham radio stuff07:52
james_VoIP type communications07:52
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pyroticjames_ http://www.google.com : your best resource...07:52
mlehrerluke: install samba on the linux machine, and the windows machine should be able to connect to it07:52
gnomefreaknightshift: not really recommeneded07:53
pyroticsbalneav wb07:53
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daryl_Does anyone else know what would cause a 'extension GLX missing on display' message?07:53
james_but will rpm and tgz files work07:53
nightshiftno i know... but if you've got no choice...07:53
jramseyluke, right click folder in file browser and select Samba but mlehrer is right u need Samba installed07:53
rosen/home/rosen/.setup5060: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0:  cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:53
nightshifthowever that hardly ever occurs.07:53
pyroticjames_ tgz files will work if you unzip them and follow the install file..07:53
gnomefreakdaryl_: i think that is the drivers for video card that causies that error make sure your drivers are install properly07:53
Jowipyrotic: about the maps, i actually don't know. i think that when you join certain games it may download them automatically. some servers do not allow that so you need to download the maps yourself at one of the sites ( http://returntocastlewolfenstein.filefront.com/files/Wolfenstein_Enemy_Territory/Maps/Objective;2659 )07:54
james_ok...i can wiki the ubuntu page as far as to unzip a tgz right07:54
gnomefreakrosen: install libgtk-1,2-dev07:54
jessikai get an error while trying to run a program: "error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file"07:54
gnomefreakubotu tell james_ about compile07:54
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jessikalibncurses.so.5 is linked to libncurses.so.5.507:54
pyroticJowi see, I downloaded a bunch of maps and put them in the 'etmain' but it doesn't seem to let me join, and it trys to download them, but I don't think it see's a correct directory to download to... and I'm not sure what one that would be...if I have ot make it or not..07:55
daryl_gnomefreak: how do i do that?  my understanding is I do the instructions in !xorg to change a driver.  am I misunderstanding how you install a driver?07:55
rosengnomefreak, ah ok I'll try that thanks!07:55
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Jowijessika: "sudo apt-get install libncurses5" should fix that (hopefully)07:55
gnomefreakjessika: look for the -dev file of that library please07:55
james_!compile07:55
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)07:55
gnomefreakdaryl_: what vc do you have?07:55
lukejramsey, I haev samba installed when I right click on the folder and click share it works fine, but how do I connect form a windows comp?07:55
james_thanks gnomefreak07:55
daryl_gnomefreak: not sure what vc means07:55
jessikaok, i dont have to remove 5.5 then?07:55
gnomefreakJowi: im thinking the -dev has teh .so07:55
gnomefreakvc=video card07:56
daryl_gnomefreak: oh video card.. um one second.  its a sis built on07:56
jramseyluke, which version of windows07:56
lukejramsey, WinXP home07:56
ompauljames_, if you have installed universe then do this in a teminal >> sudo apt-cache search ham | grep radio << you might get better functionality and you should look for source not rpms (too much information :-))07:56
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peruanojowi, sudo apt-get install build-essentials07:56
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peruanothis ask me for a paswword07:56
daryl_gnomefreak: Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS Default Card07:56
my-styleknow everyone a german irc channel07:56
james_ompaul_ thanks07:56
Jowipyrotic: my comp is too crappy to run ET well so I sort of never looked into it much. But I did get it to work :)07:56
gnomefreakperuano: no s07:57
my-stylespeak everyone german07:57
Jowiperuano: try your normal password07:57
gnomefreakperuano: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:57
ompaul!de07:57
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de07:57
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gnomefreakperuano: use your user password07:57
rosengnomefreak, worked like a charm .. thanks alot !07:57
mlehrerdual head video in linux just sucks doesn't it07:57
peruanook07:57
ompaulmlehrer, no07:57
gnomefreakrosen: yw07:57
pyroticJowi Ah, well crap anyways.. :P... I'll keep workin' on it... if you see richiefrich around, tell him I was lookin' for him...take care07:57
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ompaulmlehrer, but it is not well documented07:57
Mickewhat is the the comando for showing all directorys (like dir in dos)?07:57
Jowicy pyrotic07:57
Badmanwhat applican we can use to read rmvb?07:58
gnomefreakjessika: your gonna need the libncurses-dev package iirc07:58
Badmanapplication*07:58
gnomefreakMicke: dir07:58
mlehrerompaul: that is an understatement.  apparently it is impossible to have them be different resolutions, and there isn't a window manager in existance that deals with them nicely07:58
daryl_gnomefreak: Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS Default Card07:58
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outlawcrookok i just pulled the log file of the drive can i send it to you Gnomefreak?07:58
ompaulMicke, you really don't want to look at hundreds of files you have no idea about >> ls -R / <<07:58
gnomefreak!sis07:58
ubotugnomefreak: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:58
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mlehreri can't tell you how much it annoys me to watch the windows & mac users here just mindlessly plug in a second screen, and watch it work beautifully07:59
mlehrer!#%&!%%$#07:59
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mlehrer07:59
gnomefreakompaul: you know anything about sis video cards?07:59
Badmanme too i have SiS, do you have sis drivers daryl_ ?07:59
peruanoit's look like the keyboard is not responding07:59
jessikaok, i'll try that07:59
jessikathanks07:59
daryl_badman: no clue07:59
peruanowhen i type the password07:59
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Jowiperuano: that is a safety feature07:59
Badmani can't play ET just because of this card :(07:59
daryl_badman: this was working fine till yesterday... then all of a sudden died, not sure what I did to it07:59
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ompaulmlehrer, please see the source :-) if you really want to do that - maybe some xen kludge and something else would help but only if your a dev07:59
serpmlehrer: swich to windows08:00
Badman(ET: Enemy Territory)08:00
jessika"libncurses5-dev is already the newest version"08:00
peruanook, so i got to disable it08:00
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doc__Hallo World!08:00
gnomefreakjessika: what was the error again08:00
Mickewhat is the comando for deleting a file?08:00
Badmandaryl_, else you know with what software can we read rmvb (except real player)08:00
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gnomefreak?08:00
Jowiperuano: no. you need to get used to it. :) type your password normally and press enter and it will work fine08:00
jessika error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:01
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sbalneavMicke: rm <filename>08:01
ompaulmlehrer, you could hit the mail list for ubuntu https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users08:01
peruanook08:01
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sbalneavor, drag it to the trash in Nautilus.08:01
jessikai have a file called libncurses.so.5, but it is juats a link to 5.508:01
gnomefreakjessika: ok give me a sec08:01
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daryl_gnomefreak: you asked what VC i have.  it is a Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS Default Card08:01
peruanoyessss08:02
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gnomefreakdaryl_: yes i know i was asking if ompaul knew anything about them because i dont have a clue08:02
citronhi guys08:02
daryl_gnomefreak: ah my bad thanks : )08:02
citroni miss you.08:02
citronno, i don't miss you.08:02
citronlol08:02
gnomefreakjessika: that should do it08:02
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ompaulgnomefreak, ,missed that08:03
daryl_gnomefreak: i think i've been using xserver-xorg-driver-siliconmotion08:03
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gnomefreakits all good ompaul08:03
jendaHow can I display a block of text which has been messed up by inappropriate char encoding the right way?08:03
ompaulk08:03
ompauljenda, utf8 ?08:03
peruanook, it's processing my old cd08:03
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jendaompaul: I'd think so... it would be between UTF-8 and ISO-8xxx-208:05
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outlawcrookgnomefreak i also get this   usr/share/xll/fonts/cyrillic does not exist and08:05
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Bizzehhey, how would i enable universe from test mode08:05
outlawcrookgnomefreak i also get this   usr/share/xll/fonts/cid does not exist08:05
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jessikai'll try uninstalling it first with synaptic08:05
zboosthi guys08:06
Seveas!java08:06
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs08:06
Seveas!javadebs08:06
gnomefreakoutlawcrook: that i dont know about08:06
zboostcan someone help me with port forwarding -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17759908:06
Seveas!+javadebs08:06
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages08:06
outlawcrookok08:06
outlawcrookLaugh Out Loud08:06
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outlawcrookenough time for the 5th install08:06
outlawcrook:(08:06
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outlawcrookwish i could save those 145 updates though08:06
outlawcrook:)08:06
ompauloutlawcrook, burn them onto a CD08:06
ompauloutlawcrook, got a CD08:07
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outlawcrookyea08:07
gnomefreakoutlawcrook: is it stpping the updates?08:07
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daryl_anyone else have a suggestion about 'extension GLX missing on display' error message?08:07
outlawcrookno my isp will slow me down if i download to much to fast08:07
bluefoxicyI have a question, why is it when I copy from one machine to another using ssh in nautilus it freezes.08:07
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sbalneavoutlawcrook: look in /var/cache/apt/archives.08:08
ompauloutlawcrook, have you got k3b or gnomebaker?08:08
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AngryElf1hey guys, what device are external usb hard drives? and where do they get automounted?08:08
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paniqhow do i install fonts the easy way in ubuntu?08:08
outlawcrookok there is 677 files in there08:09
jramseyluke, i havent forgotten ... am trying this out08:09
outlawcrooksave them all08:09
outlawcrook?08:09
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MystaMaxhello, are there any instructions on how to change the resolution from the terminal? w/o loading X???08:09
ompaul!resolution08:09
ubotu[resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:09
lukejramsey, thanks08:09
MenZaompaul: that's about fixing it08:09
MenZaNot setting it08:09
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MystaMaxompaul: was that directed @ me?08:09
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ompaulMenZa, you can set useing the same method, assuming it has been set, he said "how to change the resolution from the terminal"08:10
sbalneavpaniq: I beleive you can just drop .ttf files in $HOME/.fonts directory.08:10
ompaulMystaMax, yeap08:10
jramseyluke, go here and read about Samba ... it seems straightforward ... i am trying it as well   http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu08:10
MystaMaxompaul: thx, looking over it now08:10
lukejramsey, ta08:10
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ompaulMystaMax, if that fails, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:10
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sbalneavoutlawcrook: Look for the newer ones.  The .debs there will be base+upgrades08:10
zboostcan someone help me with port forwarding -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177599 iptables doesn't works08:11
DarkJesusIs ubuntu more up to date than debian then?08:11
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lukejramsey, would I be correct in supposing that there is not much diifference between using samba on 5.10 or on 6.0608:12
gnomefreakdebain what and ubuntu what?08:13
jramseyluke, yeah i would say so ... am about to try this08:13
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lukejramsey, kk08:13
DarkJesusIs ubuntu more up to date than debian?08:13
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MintyHelo, Have mounted the partition NTSF  /dev/hda1 using system, admin, disks but how do I find and see the disk and files as woul like to get some of my win files from it08:14
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jramseyluke,  ok it works08:14
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jramseyluke, i'll paste to bin what i did ... just a sec08:14
soundrayDarkJesus: the distributions have diverged sufficiently to make it impossible to answer your question.08:14
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kevorMinty: if it is mounted, you can find it in the Places->Computer screen08:15
ltibor65Hi Guys! Please, help me! I wrote a long E-Mail in Konqueror, then I minimalized the window on the panel, but I cannot see it there. How can I see the opened programs in Gnome under Dapper?08:15
DarkJesusWhat's that mean to mean?08:15
jramsey!pastebin08:15
ubotupastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126908:15
DarkJesusMy question is, does ubuntu have more recent package versions than debian stable?08:15
soundrayDarkJesus: I guess if you want ultra-bleeding-edge, you will want Debian sid, and not Ubuntu dapper in its current late beta stage.08:15
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DarkJesusDebian sid messed up for me08:16
jramseyluke, here ya go http://pastebin.ca/5628008:16
sbalneavDarkJesus: Sometimes yes, sometimes no08:16
soundrayDarkJesus: definitely more up to date than Debian stable.08:16
minimecltibor65: <ctrl><tab>08:16
jramseyluke, in winxp explorer, map a network driver ... then right-click the ubuntu icon in the tree and select explore08:16
sbalneavDarkJesus: Well, debian sid IS the unstable branch, so that's not too surprising.08:16
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jramseythen enter ur username u setup for samba per the pastebin08:16
MintyKevor am running French version and newbie, Places->Computer screen I can find that where ?08:17
DarkJesusYeah, I know08:17
jramseyand presto there's a treeview in the leftpane with ur ubuntu folders08:17
DarkJesusIt makes sense08:17
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peruanohey guys, my gcc kernel  was compiled with gcc 3.3.5 and my gcc compiler is version 3.308:18
kevorMinty: press Alt-F2 then type "computer:///" (without the quotes)08:18
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MintyKevor done that now what ?08:19
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MystaMaxmy linux admin @ my job, says that I should always set up root w/ a password, which i haven't done, is this correct?08:19
kevorMinty: did you get a screen with Filesystem and CD drives in it?08:19
Mintyyes08:19
kevorisn't your NTFS drive there?08:19
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soundrayMystaMax: Ubuntu follows a different philosophy.08:19
bbrazilMystaMax: not on ubuntu. /msg ubotu rootsudo08:19
chowellsMystaMax: yes, root is disabled. Used sudo08:19
Mintyor rather lots of folder; Dev, sys; opt etc08:20
soundrayMystaMax: sudo is safer.08:20
kevorthat's not the "computer:///" screen08:20
MystaMaxhe mention something about running apache, and accessing files under apache08:20
kevoryou clicked something08:20
MystaMaxall my permissions are set up as user root group root for apache08:20
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MystaMaxgood or bad08:21
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bbrazilMystaMax: depends on how you plan on using it08:21
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MystaMaxcan u give small examples...08:21
MystaMaxplease08:21
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jramseyMystaMax, if u get tired of entering sudo passwords, add the following line to /etc/sudoers 'your username' ALL= NOPASSWD:ALL08:22
soundrayMystaMax: did you install apache from the repositories?08:22
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MintyKevor ok whent back one step, have dvd drive and systeme de fichiier icons08:22
MickeWhat do i need to use "cout <<" in my c/c++ program?08:22
soundrayjramsey: you can't just do it like that08:22
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kevorMinty: are you sure you have succesfully mounted the NTFS drive? if not, do the Alt-F2 thingy again, type "gnome-terminal" then type in the screen you get "mount" then press enter08:23
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jramseysoundray, what else is needed? that seems to work for me08:23
james_ok i read the wiki but it talks about a tar.gz file the file i d/l is a tgz file how to i open it so i can install it08:23
kevorubotu: tell Minty about pastebin08:23
MystaMaxsoundray: yes08:23
carlos_Hi?08:23
kevorMinty: paste the output of the "mount" command there please08:24
roni_mnnmmm08:24
soundrayjramsey: normally you can't just edit sudoers -- you have to use visudo or something.08:24
roni_bnbnnnnhjjjj08:24
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jramseysoundray, i did "sudo gedit /etc/sudoers" then added the cmd ... i no longer have to enter passwords for things like apt-get install08:24
MystaMaxsoundray: yes i did install from repositories08:24
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soundrayjames_: tgz and tar.gz means the same thing -- both can be opened with tar zxf08:25
soundrayMystaMax: that's fine then. Stick with the default owners&permissions08:25
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Mintykevor http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1412808:26
MystaMaxgreat tips thanks guys08:26
MintyNever done that before so hope I did it right08:26
james_thank you08:26
kevorMinty: good going, you pick up fast ;)08:27
Minty:)08:27
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kevorok, type this: sudo umount /dev/hda1 && sudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows && nautilus /media/windows/08:28
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kevorMinty: in a console that is (the gnome-terminal you just ran with Alt-f2)08:28
Mintydone says umount: /: periphrique occup08:29
Minty, means occupied08:29
kevorhmm08:29
kevoryes, i thought that might happen, i think (not sure though) you used an incorrect mountpoint08:29
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vOmpattiHello08:30
kevorMinty: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs follow this guide and reboot :P then it should be good08:30
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kevorMinty: you can litterally follow it since your ntfs drive is hda1 :P08:30
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Mintykevor reading brb :) and thanks08:31
vOmpattimm08:32
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kevorMinty: np, please msg me if your done ^^08:32
vOmpattiCould anyone tell me which ati drivers work on ubuntu :D08:32
soundrayMinty: you won't get out of the current situation until you reboot. Just thought I'd throw that in...08:32
vOmpattiIm a noobie so.08:32
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soundray!tell vOmpatti about ati08:32
soundrayvOmpatti: look out for a message that ubotu sent you08:33
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vOmpattiOh, thanks :D08:33
whyamihow do I install the dummy alsa driver?08:34
GaiaX11Where can i find why they gave the names warty, hoary and breezy for Ubuntu?08:34
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vOmpattisoundray could you tell me that should i even install ubuntu of any distr. if i have ati's card ? :s cause many people say that its not so clever.08:35
vOmpattiOr could anyone tell me :D08:35
GaiaX11Any help?08:35
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soundrayGaiaX11: search the web for those terms along with SABDFL08:36
soundrayvOmpatti: ubuntu is as good with ATI as any other distribution, I'd say.08:36
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GaiaX11Thanks. I will go there08:36
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vOmpattisoundray but is it ok for me to install ubuntu with ati's card ? :D08:37
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soundrayvOmpatti: ATI isn't exactly the most supportive company with regard to free driver development, which is why they have a certain reputation08:37
soundrayvOmpatti: but you will probably be just fine.08:37
vOmpattiOkay.08:38
soundrayvOmpatti: what card have you got?08:38
vOmpattiThanks for your help :)08:38
vOmpattix80008:38
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soundarihi08:38
vOmpattiI just checked that howto ati thing and what it said it should support my card08:38
soundrayvOmpatti: do you need 3D acceleration?08:38
vOmpattiWell i hope i can install wow :b08:38
soundarii'm french08:38
vOmpattiand play tux racer ! :)08:38
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soundrayvOmpatti: in that case you should probably install the fglrx drivers once you're set up.08:39
fyrestrtrwhere does iptables store its rules?08:39
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FliesLikeABrickfyrestrtr  you have to use iptables-restore and iptables-save to do it for iptables08:39
FliesLikeABrickit isn't done automatically08:39
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soundrayvOmpatti: for basic desktop use, Ubuntu will work out of the box with your card.08:40
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FliesLikeABrickuse those commands to dump/read to/from files08:40
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chrish01anyone else have issues installing the new sun java packages?08:40
Most_Wantedprobably08:40
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vOmpattisoundray mm okay. I think im gonna come back here to whine about those after i've got it set up :] 08:41
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Most_Wantedyou're never alone chrish0108:41
Most_Wanted:P08:41
mnob07what are kernel-headers and development tools? I'm a newb.08:41
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soundrayvOmpatti: are you installing for the first time?08:41
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chrish01id like to just uninstall them for the time being, but i cant seem to figure out how since they are in limbo08:41
chrish01dying during --unpack08:41
MintyKevor you are the man, many thanks :)08:42
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basesofthi all08:42
soundraymnob07: those are things that you may need when you write and/or compile software, specifically kernel modules.08:42
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basesoftI have Radeon card. I connected the monitor to the DVI output. I would like to connect the VGA output to the TV via RGB-SCART connector08:42
basesoftI set up the PAL timing under the WINDOWS as an extended desktop with the PowerStrip08:43
basesoftIt is working perfectly with great picture quality. I would like to do it under the LINUX, but I dont know the X configuration.08:43
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basesoftCould you please help me?08:43
mnob07soundray: oh I'm trying to get my Linksys wusb54g working on ubuntu... the first step is to "make sure you have your kernel-headers and development tools installed"08:44
mnob07I'm getting direction off of this post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170017&highlight=WUSB54G08:44
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FliesLikeABrickbasesoft if nobody can help you right away with that, you may be better off asking a question like that on the ubuntu forums or www.linuxquestions.org08:44
pkiddiehi08:44
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soundraybasesoft, have you found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Radeon7500TVOut ? It may be possible to adapt for your card.08:44
mnob07more specifically here: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Rt2x00drivers08:44
pkiddiesomeone suggested i use ubuntu how different is it from debian? it is based off debian correct?08:45
FliesLikeABrickcorrect pkiddie08:45
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FliesLikeABrickpkiddie  it is debian, but adapted to everyday desktop use.  The best way to find out exactly what it is is by trying out ubuntu for yourself08:45
FliesLikeABrickwe cannot sit here and list every difference for you08:45
soundraymnob07: if your card has an rt2570 chipset, and you are on Ubuntu breezy, it should work out of the box08:45
james_can someone tell me how to install something after i do the tar  with a tgz file08:45
pkiddieFliesLikeABrick yeah thanks. will do.08:45
basesoftRGB is better picture quality08:46
soundraymnob07: no need to mess with headers and dev tools.08:46
FliesLikeABrickjames_ what are you trying to install?08:46
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FliesLikeABrickjames_ if it is something that is available in apt, you'd be better off using apt to install it08:46
james_echolinux08:46
james_no it is not08:46
james_it is thirdparty08:46
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FliesLikeABrickbut if you're installing from a source tarball, usually you use configure first08:46
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FliesLikeABrickthen make, and make install08:46
mnob07how can i tell if I'm ubuntu breezy? and do you mean just plug it in and go or out-of-the-box i can install it?08:46
james_ok how do i do the config08:47
FliesLikeABrickjames_  do ./configure --help in the extracted directory08:47
james_ok08:47
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FliesLikeABrickmnob07 when did you install ubuntu and from what?08:47
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FliesLikeABrickyou are most likely using ubuntu breezy08:47
mnob07just yesterday... I got the install i386 from the most seeded torrent I saw :/08:47
james_there is not help file for it08:47
mnob07*iso08:48
kevorMinty: no problem, glad to be of service :P08:48
FliesLikeABrickjames_ does "configure" exist in that folder?08:48
james_let me look08:48
FliesLikeABrickjames_  look for a README or INSTALL file in that folder if configure is ont there08:48
FliesLikeABricknot*08:48
FliesLikeABrickmnob07  then you most likely have breezy08:48
james_no but make file does08:48
FliesLikeABrickjames_ try doing "make && make install"08:48
james_ok there is a readme file08:48
james_ok08:48
FliesLikeABrickk james_  follow the readme08:48
daryl_I'm trying to install a SIS driver from source.  It says to cd into my debian folder and run 'debian/rules build', to create makefiles, convert font files, etc.  I'm not sure what it means.  could someone clarify?08:48
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james_the make worked08:49
james_thanks08:49
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soundraymnob07: do you see a wlan0 or rausb0 interface when you enter 'ifconfig -a' in a terminal?08:49
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vOmpattisoundray no im not :) i've had few distrobutions08:49
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visik7anyone have try to compile debs of firefox from dapper to breezy ? please don't replay with newerfirefox wiki page08:50
braniffwhat is the status of 64bit windows media codecs for linux ??08:50
soundrayvOmpatti: ubuntu installation is fairly easy. Just stay away from the LVM option.08:50
vOmpattiI know :b08:50
vOmpattiI've had ubuntu once too08:50
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soundray!tell visik7 about ff1.508:50
daryl_I'm trying to install SIS drivers from source.  but I dont' see a config file.  anyone have a suggestion?08:51
vOmpattiWee08:51
vOmpattiNow i have ubuntu 5.something install cd :)08:51
visik7soundray: I'm not asking how to install firefox with the wiki guide08:51
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visik7soundray: I'm asking if someone had try to compile 1.5 of dapper on breezy08:51
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soundrayvisik7: I know, but why would you want to do that, rather than following the wiki or upgrading to dapper?08:52
Specyou don't compile debs08:52
vOmpattisoundray next question. Is it hard to get tahoma and such fonts work ? :D truetype i mean08:52
Specyou install debs, compile source, ...08:52
mnob07soundray: I just plugged the device in and rebooted so I'll see08:52
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visik7Spec: I mean compile sources that generate debs08:52
soundrayvOmpatti: very easy, you just have to install the msttcorefonts package:08:53
soundray!info msttcorefonts08:53
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB08:53
vOmpattiOkay08:53
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vOmpattiI will ask that later :)08:53
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visik7soundray: 'couse I don't want to mess my installation with software not debianized08:53
vOmpattiNow i think im ready to start the installation08:53
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shylocki just ran automatix and half of the things supposed to be installed didnt install, is that common?08:53
vOmpattiSee you all laters !08:53
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visik7and dapper isn't in stable (e.g. too many updates per day)08:54
Specso build your own .deb from firefox source....08:54
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visik7Spec: grrr... I'm asking if somebody elese try to do it08:54
jacksparrow'hi all08:54
daryl_I'm trying to install SIS driver from source, and don't understand instructions.  someone have a moment to look?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1412908:54
_Ads_Hi all, can someone please help? I've just installed ubuntu on my PC and when i login it doesn't load the desktop just the background and mouse cursor are visible :( please help08:55
soundrayHi Captain ;)08:55
jacksparrow:D08:55
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jacksparrowHi soundray08:55
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jacksparrowWhich application can I use on gnome that as like as kmobiletools?08:55
Specvisik7: well, once you do it, you can just hold a conversation with yourself about it, right?08:55
rambo3daryl_: /usr/src/ is source dir08:55
visik7...08:55
jacksparrowBecause kmobiletools can use kaddressbook, but I don't like it.08:56
soundrayjacksparrow: gnokii perhaps?08:56
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daryl_rambo3: do you understand what the instructions were saying to do?08:56
visik7stpdsshl08:56
jacksparrowsoundray, Ok, but my mobile phone sony ericsson t610...08:56
_Ads_can someone please help? I've just installed ubuntu on my PC and when i login it doesn't load the desktop just the background and mouse cursor are visible :( please help08:56
jacksparrow:-(08:56
jacksparrowsoundray, any idea?08:57
rambo3you need x.org source i guess08:57
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Arrickwhaddup everbody08:57
_JuDgEn_wich one of theese should i use on breezy? (2.6.12-9) http://www.bootsplash.org/dload.html08:57
soundrayjacksparrow: not really... tried apt-cache search ericsson mobile ?08:57
daryl_ramob3: i'm just trying to install new drivers for my video card.  have i gone to the wrong location?08:57
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DaSkreec1Ho  do I get Printing across the network setup in an easy type manner?08:58
soundray_Ads_: can you do a Ctrl-Alt-F1 and login on the text console?08:58
spatialcowhello. how do i change the resolution and refreshrater under consolemode?08:58
_Ads_soundray lemme try08:58
Arrickdaryl_, CUPS08:58
Arrick!cups08:58
ubotusomebody said cups was The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/08:58
Arrick!res08:58
uboturumour has it, res is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:58
_Ads_soundray: no i cannot :(08:58
daryl_arrick.  i'm not trying to run cups... i just want to fix my video driver.08:59
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rambo3daryl_: i guess not . pickup xorg source from their homepage and this sis source and just fallow  rest of the instructions08:59
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soundrayspatialcow: use 'vga=ask' as a kernel option, then try out the options it gives you at boot08:59
mnob07soundray: I do not see either wlan0 or rausb0 when I entered 'ifconfig -a' in the terminal08:59
rambo3or check synatpic/apt if there is source of xorg08:59
Arricksorry, that was for DaSkreec108:59
DaSkreec1Arrick: point at me :-)08:59
soundrayspatialcow: or read framebuffer docs08:59
imonkeyhello, i would like to extract .rar files but when i try to download rar i get E: Package rar has no installation candidate08:59
Arrickyeah I know08:59
soundraymnob07: do you see your card when you enter 'lsusb'?08:59
DaSkreec1Arrick: so no bouncing ball ?08:59
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Arricknope09:00
soundray_Ads_, what happens when you try?09:00
GaiaX11I did not find in the web an explanation why these strange names for ubuntu: Hoary; Warty; and Breezy. Onyone could point me a site where i could read about these issues?09:00
_Ads_soundray: i cant get into the console even with ctrl-alt-f109:00
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_Ads_soundray: nothing at all09:00
soundray_Ads_: can you boot in recovery mode?09:00
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_Ads_soundray: how would i go about doing that?09:00
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GaiaX11Debian took its names after the cartoon Toy story and ubuntu?09:01
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lazzarelloI'm looking for a howto for installing flash with firefox and AMD6409:01
jacksparrowsoundray, thanks, the best idea gnome-phone-manager.09:01
Arrickohgod give me a break09:01
jacksparrowsoundray, thanks all09:01
jacksparrowBye, the captain goes09:01
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jacksparrowbye09:01
tech_how do I give one user admin rigths on a map? something in terminal aint it sudo ..... anything?09:01
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DaSkreec1lazzarello: there is no flash for 6409:01
soundray_Ads_: select the second option from the grub menu when you boot09:02
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mnob07soundray: I'm not sure... I see 'ID 046d:c0ld Logitech, Inc.' which is probably my usb mouse plugged into the same usb card to it... and I see 'ID 1915:2234' but I don't know what that is09:02
lazzarelloI read about installing it in a 32bit chroot...09:02
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soundrayGaiaX11: perhaps this forum post explains some of it:09:02
soundray!forums 2038109:02
lazzarellobut I can't find that page09:02
ubotuForums: Thread 20381 is: Next Release Codename + Mascot Competition - Ubuntu Forums09:02
s|kacan one open up .chm files on linux?09:02
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_Ads_soundray: i didn't instal the grub menu stupid me.............................09:02
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fyrestrtrmnob07: what does lspci -vv tell you?09:02
lazzarellos|k, maybe, apt-cache search chm09:02
soundray_Ads_: what did you install as a boot manager?09:02
tech_!ubotu admin09:03
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tech_09:03
s|klazzarello: thanks09:03
patrick_kinghow do i install my sweex blutooth usb dobgle09:03
patrick_kingdongle*09:03
soundraytech_: cafuego looks after the bot09:03
_Ads_soundray: nothing09:03
_JuDgEn_where can i get winetools?09:03
Arrick!wine09:03
shylockhow do i install ati drivers so i can have full screen resolution?09:03
_JuDgEn_!wine09:03
tech_!Mittens sudo09:03
ubotutech_: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:03
fyrestrtr!ATI09:03
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358909:03
patrick_king!bluetooth09:03
ubotuI guess bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote09:03
soundray_Ads_: observe the boot up messages. It probably says at some point "Hit Esc for grub menu" or sth to that effect.09:04
Arrick_JuDgEn_, did ubotu msg yu about it?09:04
_Ads_soundray: oh wait i think i saw something when i booted, gave me about 3 seconds to press the button lol09:04
_Ads_soundray: yea, sorry09:04
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tech_how do I give one user admin rigths on a map? something in terminal aint it sudo ..... anything?09:04
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soundray_Ads_: if you press key down, the timeout is paused.09:04
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_Ads_soundray: ok thanks09:04
soundray_Ads_: I mean the down arrow09:04
_Ads_soundray: ok booting into recovery mode now dude09:05
lazzarello32bit Macromedia Flash on 64bit ubuntu? Is this possible?09:05
mnob07lspci -vv shows me a lot of stufff... I see the chipset, integrated video, integrated sound, the ethernet card, the usb 2.0 card... no Linksys though09:05
Jowitech_: the file you need to add that user in is /etc/sudoers09:05
soundraylazzarello: not here.09:06
Jowitech_: or you add that user to the admin group09:06
DaSkreec1Arrick: OK I've started the cups daemon so I should have a http://localhost:631 page right?09:06
mnob07*that was to fyrestrtr09:06
lazzarellosoundray, you tried?09:06
soundraylazzarello: yes.09:06
Arrickyeah09:06
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lazzarellowhat was the problem?09:06
WarHi how can I  remap a key to run a script ??09:06
_Ads_soundray: ok in recovery mode now i think................. is it command line based cos i am at a prompt which says root@ads:~#09:06
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soundraylazzarello: you can install 32bit firefox binaries from mozilla.org, then it'll work09:07
tech_Jovi: I cant open that file09:07
shylockbut i dont think i need to use binarydrivers for my ati card. I dont need 3d acceleration only support for 1600x1200, where can i find info on how to installe the open source ones?09:07
lazzarellooh shit! are these binaries in the Dapper repository?09:07
soundray_Ads_: yes. Try 'tail -n 20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log' to see what the X server logged before the system froze.09:07
Jowitech_: you need to use sudo"09:07
Jowitech_: you need to use "sudo"09:07
_Ads_soundray: ok doing now09:07
soundray_Ads_: anything that makes sense?09:08
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_Ads_soundray: yes09:08
soundraylazzarello: no, that's why I say from mozilla.org. There is a wiki guide...09:08
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lazzarellosoundray, right on.09:08
DaSkreec1Arrick: Grrr09:08
Arrickwhat?09:08
robokophmm09:09
ArrickI am not  dog to be growled at09:09
_Ads_soundray: i have a lot of "warning: font renderer for '.pmf' already registered at priority 0"            what do i do O_O09:09
soundraylazzarello: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava09:09
lazzarellorad.09:09
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robokophow can i unmount a device which stays busy for a reason i don't know09:09
chowellsfind out what process is using the device and kill it09:09
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lazzarellorobokop, /etc/init.d/fam restart09:10
DaSkreec1Arrick: ah ok think I'm getting it now :-) I have an allow of 127.0.0.109:10
soundray_Ads_: they aren't the cause for your problem. -- Did the freeze happen before or after you entered your username and password?09:10
DaSkreec1That might make a difference :)09:10
mnob07this is offtopic but is there any way to have mIRC... highlight every instance of "mnob07" so I can easily find the line when someone is speaking to me?09:10
wimsI checked the system monitor and it appears that my CPU is running 100%09:10
wimsis that normal?09:10
Arrickoh yeah, thats it09:10
Arricksorry09:10
_Ads_soundray: after i entered my username and password then clicked on login09:10
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DaSkreec1No I need to figure out the user and password09:10
lazzarellowims, depends on what you're doing with your computer09:10
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robokoplazzarello, bash: /etc/init.d/fam: No such file or directory09:10
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robokopchowells, how can i find that out09:11
soundray_Ads_: examine another log: 'tail -n 20 /home/username/.xsession-errors' (substitute your real username)09:11
lazzarellorobokop, weird...old Debian Gnome thing I guess...try lsof | grep <mount directory>09:11
chowellsrobokop: lsof /dev/devicename09:11
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_Ads_soundray: ok09:11
F0LL0W3Rheey Anyone know how to execute two operation using shell command09:12
wimslazzarello, i'm not doing anything intensive, i'm just browsing some web pages09:12
shylockhallo, any time i run apt-get i get output that a lot of programs are having dependencies that arent installed, it all seems to have to do with libstdc++5, can i fix this somehow?09:12
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lazzarellowims, what's on the web pages?09:12
shylocknone of the software woel09:12
shylockwork09:12
magical_trevskycan anyone think of why my ubuntu box has suddenly started dropping connections, but only from internal lan clients, not external ones?09:12
soundrayF0LL0W3R: 'shellcommand1 & shellcommand2'09:12
magical_trevskyI have a belkin f5d7050 wireless adapter using ndiswrapper09:12
wimsjust static text09:12
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jramseyanyone ever build GRUB from scratch? i did and cannot find the executable -- the build 'seemed' to complete okay09:13
wimsafter shutting down everything except xchat i still have 100% usage09:13
wimsvery weird09:13
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soundrayshylock: try 'sudo apt-get -f install'09:13
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lazzarellowims, run top in a terminal09:13
magical_trevskyI can ssh to the box a bit, but then it just drops me for no reason after a few mins, but if I do the same thing from a box that isn't on the lan, it works fine09:13
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_Ads_soundray: i have  a lot of messages like 'failed to open listener for sco session_manager=unixads:/tmp/.ICE-unix/786409:13
Orion_jhi09:13
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F0LL0W3Rsoundray didn't get that sorry09:14
F0LL0W3Rsoundray again soundary ?09:14
soundrayF0LL0W3R: 'shellcommand1 & shellcommand2'09:14
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Orion_janyone knows a simple applets that i can stick on desktop to watch cpu, memory.. or something like karamba in kde.. I want something works on gnome09:14
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chaos_of_apocalywhat the hell is a program  called wish????'09:14
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F0LL0W3Rsoundray Hmmmmm what is mean by shellcommand 1 & shellcommand2' ?09:14
kirkunitOrion: gkrellm ?09:15
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shylocksoundray, nothing happened09:15
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shylocksoundray, tryin to update alla packages right know09:15
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Orion_janyone knows a simple applets that i can stick on desktop to watch cpu, memory.. or something like karamba in kde.. I want something works on gnome09:16
kirkunitOrion_j: gkrellm ?09:16
inforlifeoi09:16
Specgkrellm09:16
soundray_Ads_: is your disk nearly full?09:16
Orion_jhmm09:16
inforlifehi09:16
squidgyHi!  Is there a linux command that duplicates the functionality of the 'start' command in Windows, i.e., a shell command that will invoke whatever application is associated with a given file? In other words, I'm looking for a command-line duplicate of double-clicking a file in nautilus?09:16
Orion_jwill google for that09:16
_Ads_soundray: certainly not09:16
soundrayF0LL0W3R: if you substitute your own commands, the first one will run in the background, and the other will run simultaneously.09:17
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kirkunitOrion_j: yeah first result. It's not the prettiest thing, but i think it's skinnable09:17
robokopsquidgy, huh what do you mean09:17
F0LL0W3Rsoundray aha09:17
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_Ads_soundray: i also have an error which reads 'cannot create /dev/X09:17
soundray_Ads_: this is a fresh installation, correct?09:17
_Ads_soundray: yes09:17
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fyrestrtrdoes someone know about iptables? I am trying to open a port, and it will only allow incoming connections, not outgoing.09:18
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Warhow can I tell XF86AudioMute to run a script something like this amixer sset 'PCM' mute09:18
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squidgyrobokop: In windows, at a command prompt, if you type 'start myfile.pdf', it will launch the PDF viewer.  If you type 'start .' it will launch the windows explorer pointed to the current directory.  If you type 'start myimage.jpg', it will launch the image viewer for myimage.jpg.  Basically, 'start' acts like double-clicking a file, but from the command prompt.09:19
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soundray_Ads_: give me a minute...09:19
_Ads_soundray: sure thing09:19
outlawcrookhow can i load the updates from a cd09:19
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outlawcrookso that i dont have to download them again09:19
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schloobdoes anyone know if there's a metacity theme (i.e. window borders) that's similar to evilwm, or would i have to create one?09:20
DShepherdoutlawcrook: sudo apt-cdrom add <-- that should add the cd to the sourcelist. You can then apt-get and it will check the cd first09:20
|Warz|how can I tell XF86AudioMute to run a script something like this amixer sset 'PCM' mute09:20
robokopsquidgy, hmm don't know how to do that09:20
squidgyrobokop:  So, I want the same functionality in Ubuntu.  I want to invoke whatever action nautilus would take if I double-clicked a file, but from a terminal.09:20
robokopsquidgy, but it has something to do with mimetypes09:21
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squidgyrobokop:  Yes.  I'm just wondering if there's an existing command to do this.  If not, then the next best thing would be to tap into some sort of MIME registry, ostensibly whateber nautilus uses.  I'm new to linux and Ubuntu, but I'm happy to write some python if I can figure out where to look.09:22
ubuntuhi evrybody09:22
outlawcrooki got this when i do that09:22
outlawcrookE: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc09:22
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robokop!mimetypes09:23
uboturobokop: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:23
jramseyany GRUB experts here?09:23
robokop!magic09:23
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, robokop09:23
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robokop!info magic09:23
soundray_Ads_: I think something must have gone wrong during your installation. I know it's a pain, but I think the best option is to reinstall.09:24
roryysquidgy: try 'run-mailcap'09:24
squidgyroryy:  will do.  thanks.09:24
soundrayjramsey: there is no executable as such. There are the stage files, which have to be referenced from the MBR.09:24
_Ads_soundray: ok no problem i will reinstall i really do apreciate ur efforts to help :)09:24
jramseysoundray, yeah i know but my problem is i want to build grub from scratch, have loaded the latest version and it seemed to build but i am not able to find the executable09:25
soundrayjramsey: which is why I'm saying there is no executable09:25
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soundray_Ads_: I hope it works. If you hit the same snag, do come back here. There's always different people around, so there's a chance you might find someone with a solution.09:26
_Ads_soundray: i will do :) see you around :)09:26
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soundrayjramsey: the info page on grub is very good for familiarizing yourself with the basics.09:26
jramseysoundray, according to this, there is -> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/462209:26
jramseysoundray, ok txs09:27
soundrayjramsey: why are you compiling grub?09:27
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squidgyOk, so this leads to my next question:  How does one configure what nautilus does (i.e., which application is spawned) when I double-click on a file?09:27
jramseysoundray, the latest version of grub is attempted to make a portable version; i want to experiement with using it in an embedded ARM system, even though i know of uboot09:28
rambo3squidgy: you would ge more answers on gnomes irc server irc.gnome.org09:28
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soundrayjramsey: I stand corrected -- there is indeed a /sbin/grub09:29
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roryysquidgy: it looks like right-click on the file and use the 'open with' tab09:29
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soundrayjramsey: but that article won't be much of a help, since it refers to an ancient version...09:29
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squidgyrambo3, roryy:  Thanks.09:30
mnob07soundray do you know my the linsys device isn't working?09:30
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jramseysoundray, yeah that is what i was thinking as well ... it's back in 200109:31
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Xbox_guruhow do I get new programs using the internet09:31
soundraymnob07: have you tested it elsewhere?09:31
Xbox_guruwith apt-get09:31
mnob07yes09:31
mnob07it was the primary means of getting the internet when the computer had windows 200009:32
NoUse!tell Xbox_guru about apt-get09:32
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soundraymnob07: do you have a choice of ports to plug it into? The more direct, the better.09:33
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mnob07All I know is that I plugged it in, and it isn't connecting to the internet with ubuntu09:33
mnob07is it supposed to?09:33
outlawcrookthe files on the cd i copyed freom the drive before i reinstalled the os are all .deb09:33
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outlawcrookhow can i use the to reinstall those files09:33
RichardPhi, maybe im being dense (someone will point that out if so), ive just installed ubuntu server and i cant find anywhere to permanently set the default route, any ideas?09:33
mnob07I don't know how more direct i could get it?09:33
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mnob07the mobo usb is shot09:34
soundraymnob07: you could run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then plug it in and see if any errors are logged09:34
mnob07it's connected to a usb 2.0 NEC pci card09:34
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compunkrichardP you should set it in /etc/network/interfaces09:34
soundraymnob07: if it's not on a hub, that should be fine09:34
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Xbox_gurualso, what command do I use to install a .tar.gz file09:35
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RichardPcompunk: thats what i thought, but its set to dhcp at the moment but no route has been set09:35
magical_trevskyanyone know where network errors are logged (if anywhere)?09:35
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compunkwhen using DHCP the default route is an option supposed to be pushed by your DHCP server09:36
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mutanteBeautiful sunset , first person: Doesn't this look almost like a nuclear bomb exploded on the horizon?09:36
NoUse!tell Xbox_guru about compile09:36
mutanteReply: "The sun IS a nuclear bomb"09:36
compunkmagical_trevsky use "netstat -in"09:36
magical_trevskythanks09:36
nysosymhi :D09:36
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squidgyroryy, rambo3:  The command I was looking for is gnome-open.09:37
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magical_trevskycompunk, are there any more specific logs, because that says there are no errors, but it keeps dropping connections09:37
compunknothing more specific09:37
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roryysquidgy: hrm. maybe i should use that instead of run-mailcap. thanks09:38
compunkyou can use the program "tcpdump" to get an in-depth trace of all network activity09:38
compunkapt-get install tcpdump09:38
magical_trevskycool09:38
compunkand then09:38
compunktcpdump -i eth009:38
compunkto log all traffic on eth009:38
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magical_trevskyI really can't work out what's wrong with it, lan clients ping out after a few mins, but internet clients can connect fine09:38
magical_trevskyit makes no sense to me :<09:39
compunkbut hard errors should show up in netstat -in09:39
diopi am looking for that option of wget that permits me to whole download of a site09:39
diopsomeone can helpme09:39
squidgyroryy:  Yes, it seems to work much better.  For example, with a .tar.gz file, it opens FileRoller, and with a directory as argument, it opens nautilus pointed to that directory.  *exactly* what I wanted.09:39
compunkmagical_trevsky, maybe your HUB/switch is just broken09:39
compunkhad it at already at 3 clients09:39
NoUsediop have you looked at the man page?09:39
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rob_is it possible to rip the contents of an "enhanced cd", it won't mount for me, and k3b sees it as just a audio cd which i can rip songs from or a mixed mode cd which i cant do anything with i dont think09:40
roryysquidgy: sounds suspiciously similar to windows start ;)09:40
magical_trevskycompunk, it worked fine until this afternoon, and all other PCs can interconnect fine, so I don't think it could be the router09:40
compunkmaybe just & port on the router09:40
compunkanyway09:40
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compunktcpdump might help you diagnose a little further09:40
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compunkbut you must understand a bit about TCP/IP in order to understand the output09:40
magical_trevskyyeah, I'll check it out :D09:40
magical_trevskyoh09:40
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compunktake this as advice09:41
C|inthi everyone,09:41
compunkfor every TCP packet, there should be a corresponding ACK packet09:41
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watson540hb~b09:41
compunkif there isn't, something is messed up either in your switch, or on the card or on the router09:41
squidgyroryy:  yes.  After 'alias start=gnome-open' it's indistinguishable.  Windows does have some hidden gems like this, but most everything seems to have a counterpart on linux.09:41
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C|intback, hows everyone09:42
tuxuserhi09:42
C|inthey tuxuser09:42
C|inthey all, I been working rapidly with Dapper alpha 7, and I am very satisfied, with the resluts09:43
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tuxusercan't update me ff09:43
soundrayC|int: tell us about it in #ubuntu+109:43
C|intwhats that09:43
C|intchannel09:43
tuxuserso not sure how u did it if your in ubuntru09:43
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tigrohi huys09:44
tigroi have a question for u all09:44
C|intI am going , be setting up cedega, and codeweaves crossover 5 pro, and vmware today, going be busy and college too, I can't believe I thought SUSE 10.1 and gentoo would be better,09:44
tuxuseriok09:44
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tuxusergentoo is hell09:44
C|intI am so used to debian based systems, thats where I come from in the linux world, I am also a windows user, and I make things easy for windows user migrating to linux, so09:44
soundrayC|int: this is a support channel, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic09:44
tigroi installed ubuntu 64bit 5.10 for the first time to day, and it boots up but then instead of going into the OS there is just a black and grey screen09:44
tuxuseryup09:44
tuxuseri perfer only two knoppix and ubuntu09:45
C|inthi tigro , and tuxuser ,09:45
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tuxuserhi09:45
Zoroastersorry, I forgot, but how do you search in apt get09:45
tigrowell black screen09:45
C|intwant to talk in offtopic, I see they kind of cranky today09:45
tigroanywayones know y?09:45
soundrayZoroaster: apt-cache search09:45
C|int; )09:45
Zoroasterapt get catalog?09:45
C|intthey need some, coffee, or something ;- )09:45
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Zoroastersoundray, thank you09:45
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tigro:(09:46
soundrayC|int: this is just too busy a channel to banter about mindlessly.09:46
C|inthey tigro , isn't that something, probably ubuntu is going be running in 64 bit mode, and better than windows xp 64 hehe09:46
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nexti have a AMD64, should i install the 64bit version, i'm worried that i'll have limited support...09:46
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C|intI don't think I'm banter mindlessly09:46
soundraytigro: is this before or after you log in?09:46
squidgyZoroaster:  aptitude search mypackage09:46
tuxuserrunning ubuntu 509:46
ahmadHello! What are GDM Themes, and how would i go about on installing them?09:46
tuxuserhow do i upgrade ff easy?09:47
tuxuserff+firefox09:47
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C|intI figured out a way, to make a package, of binary, etc, for the ubuntu, like wireless all in 1 package, however, I making ubuntu more universal09:47
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C|inthows that scan09:47
NoUse!tell tuxuser about ff.1509:47
NoUse!tell tuxuser about ff1.509:47
C|intand I am going, take TechSmith Camtasia Studio, and with Codeweavers CrossOver, show users, how to , work with ubuntu, in a much better, way :)09:48
tuxuserok tell me09:48
nzxhey, i cant find the mutliverse repostories in synaptic, how do i add the, ?09:48
C|intyou programmers familar with that :D09:48
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tigrosoundray: before i login09:48
ahmadHello! What are GDM Themes, and how would i go about on installing them?09:48
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NoUsetuxuser ubotu sent you a pm with a link09:48
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C|inthey ahmad , you know in system09:48
ahmadthemes/09:48
NoUse!tell nzx about repos09:48
C|intgdm, is for , gnome display manager screens etc09:48
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C|intkdm is for kde, and so on09:49
linuxboywhere can I find a wiki page that will help my friend get resolutions higher then 1024x768 on his PC ?09:49
soundraytigro: what's the last message you can read on the screen?09:49
NoUse!tell linuxboy about fixres09:49
nzx!easysource09:49
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:49
C|inthey ahmad ,want ot install a nice 109:49
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ahmadyeh09:49
ahmadi do09:49
ahmadlol09:49
C|intk09:49
ahmad:D09:49
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veillettesup09:49
C|intI don't send every user on a dam help page like they do :P09:49
Xbox_guruwhen try to install opera, I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1413709:49
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RichardPwell, i must be going insane, i cannot add a default route to this server09:49
veillettewath sup09:49
ahmadYAY! :D09:49
C|intI'm almost, recording screens, in real time, be easier than saying google lol09:49
tigrosoundray: i dunno it does seem to load ubuntu fully tho09:49
C|intI do it on windows system, with TechSmith Camtasia STudio09:50
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C|intI make them available, in web stream, high definition, flash, quicktime, etc.09:50
NoUse!tell Xbox_guru about opera09:50
RichardPis there any particular reason having 'gateway 192.168.1.254' as a line for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces wouldnt create a route?09:50
ahmadcool C|int09:50
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soundraytigro: can you boot in recovery mode (option from grub boot menu)09:50
tigroye i can09:50
C|intk, first of all, lets start with this , ah,09:50
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tigrogoes to the bash thing09:50
tuxuserthat sucks bad09:50
tuxuserinstall firefox with the command line?09:51
C|intyou know where system is of course, lets go to www.gnome-look.org09:51
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soundraySeveas, ping09:51
tigrosoundray: i can, goes to bash09:51
tuxuserthats old school09:51
C|intI'll show you the gdm, aka gnome theme I'm using09:51
ahmadk im on gnome-lok09:51
C|intokay,09:51
NoUsetuxuser packages aren't upgraded in the repos once the release has gone stable, you can wait for dapper if you want09:51
C|intwant my msn?09:51
ahmadsure09:51
C|intk,09:51
Seveassoundray, yes?09:51
tuxuserrather use knoppix for fire fox as 1.7 crahes09:52
tuxuseron 509:52
C|intits really simple too,   clintsnet@hotmail.com09:52
tuxuserthats odd isn't?09:52
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C|intI'm also , Microsoft Developer :P09:52
soundraySeveas: can you have a look at this annoyance here please, ignoring offtopic requests?09:52
C|intthey all mad I use open source : P09:52
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tigrosoundray...?09:52
ahmaddid it add you?09:52
C|int1 sec09:52
C|intheya Seveas  ; P09:52
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soundraytigro: do a 'tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log'. Any errors that make sense to you?09:53
tuxuserok moving on..09:53
Abountuhi09:53
ahmadWhat type of themes are the best?09:53
Abountudo you know how can I add someone to msn using gaim09:53
Seveasahmad, the good ones 09:53
C|intwell thats the thing, there are alot, and you can design your own09:53
tigrothey would make no sense to me, this is the first time i tried to use linux09:53
SeveasAbountu, buddies  add buddy09:53
ahmadlol seveas :D Thats true09:54
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tuxuseri like this ubuntu so far09:54
tigroand i can't view them now, crrently in windows so no access to ext3 partition09:54
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C|intthis is your screename? -> 1337.ahmad@gmail.com/09:54
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Abountuseveas : thanks09:54
soundraytigro: that's fine, it may point you in the right direction anyway.09:54
Seveasahmad, de gustibus non est disputandum09:54
tuxuserwhen will this dapper be out?09:54
C|intHEY Seveas09:54
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Seveastuxuser, june 109:54
tigrook i will have  alook at it09:54
SeveasC|int, hi09:54
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ahmadseveas, i dont speak that language09:54
tuxuserthanks you is there a google cal for that?09:54
tigrothanks for the help09:54
tigroi am outta here09:54
soundraytigro: you could also load a filesystem driver for Windows and paste the tail of the log on the pastebin for us to look at.09:55
Seveasahmad, it's an old latin saying, meaning that everoyne has a different taste in things09:55
Xbox_guruno use: all that website told me to do was type that sudo command, and it removed opera.09:55
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tuxusergoogle calnder09:55
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Seveas!tell ahmad about themes09:55
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tuxuseropera sucks09:55
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Seveasubotu just gave you a few urls09:55
ubotuSeveas: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:55
C|inthavn't seen ya in wile.. and btw , I didn't give up on ubuntu hee :P09:55
ahmadthanks09:55
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Xbox_gurudo I need the build essentials to install things09:55
tuxusernothing in google cal?09:55
SeveasXbox_guru, no09:55
C|intwas about too, with SUSE 10.1 and gentoo, but they weren't no dam diff, and slow..09:55
SeveasC|int, tried fedorea core 5?09:55
tuxuserwich version are you on..xbox?09:55
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ahmadHave you guys tried mepis?09:56
NeoGeo64Help, video playback with windows files (wmv, realplayer) etc is really flawed in Linux.09:56
C|intyep09:56
bagpuss_thecatubotu: w32codecs09:56
NeoGeo64It's choppy, bad sound, etc09:56
NeoGeo64Why?09:56
Seveasahmad, mepis = ubuntu + commercial stuff09:56
Xbox_guruinstall opera doesn't work, I'm a huge opera fan, I'll download the .tar.gz and try that09:56
C|intheck, I tried fedora, and red hat both, red hat 9, fedora core 1, 2 , and 509:56
C|intFedora buggy as heck :D09:56
tuxuseropera is worthless to me09:56
fyrestrtrwhat is the ubuntu equivalent of chkconfig ?09:56
soundrayNeoGeo64: the formats are flawed. Covered by patents etc.09:56
Seveasfyrestrtr, what is chkconfig?09:56
tuxuserfirefox has gooten so good09:56
fyrestrtradds stuff to runlevels09:56
Seveasfyrestrtr, update-rc.d09:57
soundrayNeoGeo64: making it difficult to play them on free systems.09:57
C|intI'm not an rpm based user, hehe, :P not for me I found out, debian , yay all the way, I was using debian 3.1 sarge for a while, and ubuntu back with warty09:57
fyrestrtrchkconfig --level 345 /etc/init.d/somescript.foo09:57
soundray!tell NeoGeo64 about restricted09:57
NeoGeo64Oh09:57
NeoGeo64well09:57
C|intopen source, is about simplifying, and I really believe, ubuntu has all that for the user,09:57
NeoGeo64I watch ALOT of wmv files, i like viral videos and such09:57
tuxuserright09:57
C|inthowever, its all about opinions, user interface for all, and what power the user once,09:57
NeoGeo64and now i cant :(09:57
tuxuseri just want ff for ubuntu already09:58
C|intI'm sure 1 day, I'll take a kernel, the drivers needed for the system, and just compile my own linux system,09:58
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C|inthowever that time is not here yet09:58
tahorgtuxuser: sudo apt-get install firefox09:58
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C|intoh firefox09:58
C|inthey tuxuser , use opera09:58
tuxuserwhy?09:58
richiefrichanyona a qemu expert>09:58
richiefrich?09:58
tuxuserhey..no!09:58
C|inti promise you won't want firefox anymore09:58
C|int:)09:58
Seveasopera, shiver....09:58
tahorgC|int: opera is not in ubuntu.09:58
soundrayNeoGeo64: but I bet you haven't exhausted your options yet. Try mplayer and vlc09:58
tuxusernot true i've used on window shated it09:58
C|intit even has, bittorent, integrated into it, and more secure with encryption and cyphers,09:58
SeveasI'd even prefer a cheesy musical over opera09:59
C|int:)09:59
tuxusernah firefox is the best09:59
jpbotelhohow i see the info of my processador without reboot??09:59
spikebas it is i dont want firefox and want to remove it, but too much depends on it :)09:59
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SeveasC|int, "more secure" is absolutely bollocks09:59
C|intits not a matter of being in it... endless vision now tahorg , endless vision :)09:59
Xbox_guruI stopped using firefox when I tried opera on my windows computer09:59
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soundrayjpbotelho: cat /proc/cpuinfo09:59
tuxuserfirefox rocks09:59
slackernjpbotelho: cat /proc/cpuinfo09:59
C|intwell Seveas , want me to take a graph, and prove it :D09:59
Zoroasterdoes someone know of raid 1 card that woks well with ubuntu 5.10?09:59
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Seveasspikeb, that will change09:59
DShepherdtuxuser: i think it reggaes too09:59
Seveasxulrunner ftw09:59
spikebSeveas: how will it change?10:00
soundrayZoroaster: best to do software raid (if at all) in Linux.10:00
tahorgC|int: endless vision . Who's talking about installing a closed source browser instead of an open sourced one ?10:00
DShepherdSeveas: ftw?10:00
tuxuserok10:00
C|inthey Seveas , something I forgot to ask, whats ubuntu programmed in10:00
tuxuserhow do i use amule?10:00
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soundraytuxuser: load your bags on its back, I guess...10:00
C|int:-)10:00
SeveasC|int, lots of languages. C/C++/C#/perl/bash/sh/python ....10:00
tahorgC|int: you really don't know what you'r talking about do you ?10:00
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Seveasand more...10:00
C|int:)10:01
NoUseC|int thats like asking Whats the world made of?10:01
DShepherdtahorg: nope he doesnt10:01
C|intyeah what is it made of :D10:01
SeveasNoUse, atoms :D10:01
jramseysoundray, well at least i was able to make a grub boot diskette with the ubuntu distro for grub; i just can't get it built and find the grub executable ... will keep looking10:01
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jramseyand it boots10:01
spikebepiphany should be an alternative for the packages that depend on ff10:01
tuxuserexcuse me soundray?10:01
Zoroastersoundray, then how can you build a good server with Ubuntu if you can't get at least hard drive redundancy?10:01
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C|intwell I should ask, what alot of irc users have, negative energy :D10:01
soundraytuxuser, sorry could not resist10:01
slackernhehe10:01
Seveassoundray, poor attempt at humour 10:01
SeveasI liked it tho10:02
soundrayZoroaster: of course you can. Use software RAID.10:02
tuxuserrsists what?10:02
soundrayZoroaster: RAID is overrated in my opinion, though.10:02
C|intSeveas, , 1 thing I will say, your an op, in ubuntu channel, that isn't closed minded, and has respect,10:02
tuxusergot it figured out10:02
C|inti value that, thanks bud10:02
C|inti'm going to defcon, :D10:03
Zoroastersoundray, can you give me a name of software?10:03
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F0LL0W3Rsoundray look i didn't understand what u said my problem i want to install two programs in the same time like sudo apt-get install wine n also sudo apt-get install XXxXx10:03
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tuxuserhaving issues10:03
F0LL0W3Rhow can that be happned ?10:03
soundrayZoroaster: mdadm10:03
tuxuserany one good with amule for ubuntu?10:03
SeveasC|int, please take the off-topic talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is noisy enough with ony support talk10:03
spikebi think i'm probably the only one in chan that actually likes epiphany :)10:03
Seveasspikeb, hell no10:03
tuxuserleave clint alone already10:03
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Seveasepiphany is very nice10:04
C|inthey Seveas , can we talk in offtopic10:04
Zoroastersoundray, well, I might have to disagree, I have an exchange 2003 server that has lost 3 scsi hard drives in the past 2 years, but luckily they are raid and hot swappable10:04
tuxuserits ok10:04
SeveasC|int, sure10:04
DShepherdspikeb: i like epiphany too10:04
C|intcool m810:04
spikebyay10:04
Zoroastersoundray, mdadm, ok, thank you10:04
soundrayF0LL0W3R: you can tell apt-get to install multiple packages at once. Just append them on the commandline, with a space10:04
ProN00bhow do i strip nondisplayable chars from a file ?10:04
tahorgspikeb: epiphany is really nice for users who only want to browse.10:04
F0LL0W3Rsoundray Opss Thank You got it10:04
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C|intthey don't get , a MS user, developer, with Vista, jus twants to share some ideas, to make ubuntu alot better10:04
spikebwhich is pretty much me in a nutshell10:04
C|intis that a crime?10:04
C|int: P10:05
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mnob07soundray: after I typed 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' into the terminal, I plugged the Linksys wusb54g into a usb port. this message came up: May 16 12:02:27 localhost kernel: [  473.992422]  usb 5-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 310:05
C|intI am going use, ubuntu, to start up a wi -max network lmao10:05
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SeveasC|int, in here: yes, Ubuntu is buggy enough as it is now and this channel is reserved for support10:05
tahorgC|int: you're a big ugly troll.10:05
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Seveastahorg, language please...10:05
tuxuserlol ms ass10:05
C|intoh.. buggy too.. : P10:05
soundrayZoroaster: you are right in saying that it can be a good solution for a mailserver etc., but many people misuse RAID IMO.10:05
tuxuseri go back on what i said10:05
C|intI'm universal tuxuser , wouldn't want to be any other way :-)10:05
tahorgSeveas: not big then ? sorry10:05
tuxuserlet clint have it10:05
mnob07sorry for the delayed response btw...10:06
soundraymnob07: what module did it load, if any? You can probably see it with 'lsmod | head -n 1'10:06
tuxuserclint can eat shit and die10:06
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Seveassigh. OK - offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic or else...10:06
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tuxusermoving on10:06
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soundraymnob07: oops, 'lsmod | head -n 2'10:06
Lysander-Hey..would anybody be able to help me? (:10:06
mnob07soundray: do i type that into the terminal10:06
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soundraymnob07: yes10:06
SeveasLysander-, depends on the problem10:06
Red-SoxWhat is the spanish ubuntu channel?10:07
soundray!es10:07
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:07
Lysander-Well, I'm having problems trying to run the live CD.10:07
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Xbox_guruhow do i add things to my  apt sources.list file10:07
Red-Soxthanks10:07
soundray!helpme10:07
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)10:07
SeveasXbox_guru, either via synaptic or with a text editor10:07
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Xbox_guruare there instructions10:07
Lysander-Well, basicly i attempted to run the Live CD. It all goes fine up to one point about the graphical interface, says it cannot be intilised or similar.10:07
soundray!tell Xbox_guru about easysource10:08
SeveasXbox_guru, the easiest-to-explain way: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:08
mnob07soundray: there is one module listed10:08
mnob07"ipv6"10:08
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soundraymnob07: do you get any output from 'lsmod | grep rt'?10:08
mnob07 size: 21740810:08
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bewireHello, have problem with sound in tvtime - tv card: Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME  MK3), sound works fine in other apps (cd-audio, netstreaming, system sound, etc ...) Also, the TV-card works fine with winXP ... any suggestions ?10:09
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mnob07soundray: yes i do10:09
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mnob07are you looking for anything in particular? there are about 9 lines of stuff10:09
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McNutellais ubuntu pre-emptive multitasking atall ?10:10
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soundraymnob07: it would be particularly relevant if there was a module named rt-something in the first column of the output10:11
SeveasMcNutella, heh, would be a lousy os if it wasn't....10:11
Seveaseven the kernel is preemptable10:11
mnob07I see a "rtc"10:11
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soundraymnob07: that's not the one (real time clock)10:11
McNutellai was wondering, as its just so responsive, like the AmigaOS10:11
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mnob07soundray: that's the only rt-something I see :(10:12
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mnob07soundray: I see gameport, snd_mpu401_uart, snd_rawmidi, snd, agpgart, parport_pc, and parpot10:13
soundraymnob07: well, I'll tell you about my experience with ralink devices: they gave me all kinds of trouble in breezy. I had to use ndiswrapper to get them to work. Since I upgraded to dapper, they work with the native drivers.10:13
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McNutelladoes anyone know how I can tell the Firestarted firewall to stop, and stay that way until otherwise told, even after restart10:14
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pinocchiohello all10:14
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pinocchiosomeone here who is expert on hardware?10:15
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_tcc-laptopHello?10:15
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SeveasMcNutella, invoke-rc.d firestarter stop && update-rd.d -f firestarter remove10:15
_tcc-laptopI am having some touble finding stdio.h10:15
Seveas!tell _tcc-laptop about compiling10:15
vOmpattiHey all :D I've got a little proplem here.10:15
pinocchiome210:15
Seveas!tell pinocchio about anyone10:15
pinocchio:)10:15
vOmpattiMy xserver does an error "no screens found"10:16
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vOmpattiso i cant get it up10:16
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_tcc-laptopI removed the kernel headers.10:16
_tcc-laptoplol10:16
McNutellaSeveas: thank you for that10:16
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mnob07soundray: well my goal here is to broaden my OS usage after being a Windows user almost exclusively my whole life... and turn this computer into a simple web-browsing/torrent-slave/file server. Wireless isn't necessary for this comp. Do you think I should stick with ubuntu?10:16
pinocchiobut my problem is hardware realted10:16
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pinocchioi guess10:16
Seveaspinocchio, read what ubotu said10:16
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Seveas_tcc-laptop, you too10:16
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pinocchioand he cant help me with harware can he?10:17
Xbox_guruhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14139, now I got this error while trying to install opera10:17
McNutellaSeveas: assuming that the kernel firewall will still be active after this ?10:17
mnob07my question can go for everyone here10:17
soundraymnob07: I think it could be just great for that job.10:17
awe__hello guys, can someone please tell me if dapper = 5.10 ?10:17
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mnob07ok thanks!10:17
soundray!dapper10:17
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then10:17
SeveasMcNutella, firestarter just controls that firewall. "Stopping" firestarter will clear the firewall10:17
mnob07I'll have to look into debian when I want to use wireless then10:17
awe__:$10:17
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McNutellaclear it, what context do you mean by this Seveas10:18
soundrayawe__: dapper will be 6.0610:18
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zeushallo10:18
_tcc-laptopYou guys, that told me nothing.10:18
SeveasMcNutella, removing all firewall rules10:18
james_can anyone tell me a good dvd playing codec and software10:18
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_tcc-laptopI can't find stdio.h10:18
awe__soundray: oh, ty, what's the codename for the current release? (5.10 which im downloading right now)10:18
james_!dvd10:18
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)10:18
_tcc-laptopI know how to compile.10:18
Seveas_tcc-laptop, read what ubotu told you and read the page it recommends10:18
SeveasNOW10:18
james_!mps10:18
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, james_10:18
vOmpattiexit10:18
McNutellaSeveas: and it will revert to default and work like it did before I stuck on firestarter?10:18
pinocchioi am running a epox mainbord with 333 fsb and a athlon xp 1900+, this combination run totaly unstable under windows and debian/ubuntu appz just shut down or "bluescreens"10:18
soundray_tcc-laptop: before Seveas gets out his stick.10:18
james_!mp310:18
Red-SoxiTunes 6.0.4.2 stopped10:18
ubotu[mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:18
_tcc-laptopWhat the hell, I did.10:19
SeveasMcNutella, yes, the default being no rules at all10:19
_tcc-laptopI can't find stdio.h10:19
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Seveas_tcc-laptop, apparently you did not read the wikipage10:19
Seveasotherwise you would have known what to do10:19
pinocchionow i have highert the voltage from the cpu from 1.75 to 1.80 and the system seems stable, how can that be is this the mainboard or the cpu coursing trouble?10:19
McNutellaSeveas: no rules, but by default it shoudl still be intelligent like before?10:19
james_!dvd10:20
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)10:20
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SeveasMcNutella, "intelligent"?10:20
Seveasthe firewall rules are empty on a default Ubuntu install..10:20
McNutellaSeveas: I read in one of my manuals that by default the kernel firewall needs no human interaction and works very well without firestarter10:20
ubuntuJust installed UBUNTU, what is a good channel to ask questions on?10:20
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Seveasubuntu, this one 10:20
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McNutellalol10:20
ubuntu:)\10:20
SeveasMcNutella, that manual is quite weird...10:20
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pinocchiojust want to know if this is the cpu ? before i buy a new mainboard10:21
Seveasfirewalls aren't intelligent10:21
james_!libdvdcss210:21
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)10:21
Seveasjames_, stop fishing10:21
McNutellawish I could paste what it says, perhaps im not putting it across very well LOL10:21
SeveasMcNutella, use a pastebin 10:21
Mystery47ubuntu: this channel :)10:21
MisterNhi10:21
ubuntuOK, Can i access my hard drive from Ubuntu?  I'd like to find folders with media to test this OS out?10:21
McNutellaand how do you get tha adorable wee smilie10:21
james_sorry was tring to get the link for the dvd setup10:21
_tcc-laptopw00t10:22
Seveasubuntu, guess the drive is a windows or mac drive, right?10:22
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_tcc-laptoplibc6-dev was all I needed.10:22
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ubuntuyes, windows.10:22
daryl_what are the commands you run after a ./configure?  was it 'make && make install'???10:22
McNutella10:22
Seveas!tell ubuntu about windowsdrives10:22
_tcc-laptopmake and make install10:22
Seveasubuntu, ubotu gave you the hints10:23
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pinocchio<daryl_> but make install u have to run as root or with sudo10:23
daryl_!make10:23
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, daryl_10:23
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Seveas!make is <action> does a coredump in the channel10:23
ubotuSeveas: okay10:23
ubuntuOK, i am going to check it out.  Very new to Linux, but already excited about the possibilites.10:23
McNutella how cute10:23
Zoroasteris there a netmeeting emulator for linux?10:23
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SeveasZoroaster, ekiga10:24
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pinocchiosomeone know if a cpu can get damaged out of some reason so that it needs more voltage to run stable?10:24
nzxhey, whats happened to totem-xine-firefox-plugin ?10:24
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pinocchioor is it my stupid epox mainboard coursing the errors10:24
pinocchio?10:24
ZoroasterSeveas, did a search on synaptic, does not come up10:24
stjepanwhy doesn't usplash show up while shutdowning or rebooting?10:24
Zoroasterguess I have to manually install it10:24
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Seveasstjepan, no 'splash' in the kernel command line?10:25
ZoroasterSeveas, guess I have to manually install it10:25
SeveasZoroaster, gnomemeeting then10:25
Seveas(that's the old name of ekiga)10:25
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studenthi!!! I cannot change my screen resolution to anything but 640x480, I checked xorg.conf and the other two standard resolutions are in there, any idea how I can get to a higher res?10:26
pinocchioalso kann mir keiner helfen ? schade10:26
Seveas!de10:26
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de10:26
NoUse!tell student about fixres10:26
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pinocchio<student> problem is ur horizontal and vertical refreshrate look it up10:26
nzxhey guys, i'm following the starter guide, and it says to install totem-xine-firefox-plugin to be able to watch streaming files, but apt-get says package cannot be found10:27
daryl_i'm trying to install xorg-server-1.0.2, and i'm being told lbxutil not found.  I can't find it to download it.  i found a zlib. but that doesn't seem to resolve the problem.  any suggestions?10:27
Seveas!info totem-xine-firefox-plugin10:27
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NeoGeo64i just ate 2 big macs10:27
NeoGeo64and a large fry10:27
McNutellaNeoGeo64: you fat git :)10:27
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NeoGeo64im not fat i only weigh 150 pounds10:28
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Seveasnzx are you on dapper?10:28
pinocchioi just drunk 3 HOFBRAEU SCHWARZE WEISSE10:28
McNutellaim just jealous!10:28
pinocchioproscht!10:28
Seveaspinocchio, offtopic talk elsewhere please10:28
NoUseNeoGeo64 just look at your arteries10:28
pinocchiocheers!10:28
nzxSeveas, nope, breezy10:28
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daryl_i'm trying to install xorg-server-1.0.2, and i'm being told lbxutil not found.  I can't find it to download it.  i found a zlib. but that doesn't seem to resolve the problem.  any suggestions?10:28
benji_123456789anyone got google talk running on Gaim2?10:28
Seveasnzx, figures, that version does not have the totem firefox plugin 10:28
studentpinocchio, I installed Ubuntu in a lab of computers, all but 2 can get higher resolution, the computers are same model/specs, is this still the problem?10:28
Seveasdaryl_, apt-get install xserver-xorg10:29
nzxSeveas, ah! i see, the guide doesnt say that10:29
McNutellabenji_123456789: some may be surprised to find gaim2 available.. I didnt know it existed10:29
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SeveasMcNutella, it's at beta 310:29
daryl_seveas: i try that.  but i dont' have the right repository.  do you know where the repository is?10:29
benji_123456789McNutella: its a beta version10:29
Seveas!tell daryl_ about repos10:29
benji_123456789but stable10:29
ubuntuI ran the script.  :)  Very cool.  there they are.10:29
McNutellaSeveas: does one have to compile it, coz i aint got that far with ubuntu yet LOL10:29
SeveasMcNutella, no, there are packages on people.ubuntu.com10:30
Seveasgoogle for gaim2 ubuntu people.ubuntu.com10:30
McNutellaand I goto that address, or add it to the other thign10:30
pinocchio<student> aslo the same graficcards?10:30
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Xbox_guruok I'm still having problems installing opera, I added the opera things to apt-get and then tried to install them, these are the errors I got. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1414010:31
daryl_seveas: thank you much.10:31
Seveasyou add it to the sources.list10:31
Seveasthe packages are only for dapper though10:31
AeudianFrom the shell on a "server install (no gui)" what command can i use to download a file on a webserver to my /tmp directory on the server10:31
studentpinocchio, yes, onboard, same mobo10:31
benji_123456789i have it installed on breezy10:31
SeveasAeudian, wget http://server/filename -O /tmp/filename10:31
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edwinHow do i find new themes?10:31
benji_123456789with one of those packages form people.ubuntu10:32
Seveas!tell edwin about themes10:32
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pinocchio<student> and they all run under with same xorg.conf10:32
nzxSeveas, so what can i use instead? i'd like to be able to watch streaming movies10:32
Seveasnzx, mplayer-mozilla10:32
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nicolas_is there i way i can remove that brown sub-background at login ?10:32
Seveasor mozilla-mplayer10:32
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studentpinocchio, yes, I didn't modify xorg.conf at all10:33
Xbox_guru"opera:Depends:libqt3c102-mtbutitisnotinstallable" what does that mean10:33
SeveasI always mess that name up10:33
benji_123456789Rhine:  check out http://art.gnome.org/10:33
Jowinicolas_: gdmsetup10:33
SeveasXbox_guru, that you're screwed 10:33
Xbox_guruwhat, I can't get opera10:33
benji_123456789and http://www.gnome-look.org/10:33
pinocchio<student> all are running on same monitors?10:33
SeveasXbox_guru, grab the debian etch package for opera10:33
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studentpinocchio, yes10:33
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Zoroastercan gnomemeeting do desktop sharing?10:33
ubuntuI'm onto the same problem seveas.  It is asking for plug-in?  mplayer-mozilla?  where is that10:33
pinocchiowt...?10:33
nzxarrrg! stupid flash plugin wont download10:33
pinocchio<student> ok i duuno sorry i could not help10:33
nicolas_Jowi: no, after gdm10:33
Seveasubuntu, in the ubuntu multiverse repository10:34
Seveas!tell ubuntu -about multiverse10:34
nicolas_Jowi: between gdm and the splashscreen10:34
studentpinocchio, ok, thanks for trying! :)10:34
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Mystery47edwin: http://art.gnome.org/10:34
McNutella!multiverse10:34
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:34
ubuntuI need to borrow ubotu for an evening :)10:34
ArrowHeadCan somebody help me to get my Radeon working properly under Breezy?10:34
Rhine!tell rhine about themes10:34
Xbox_guruSeveas: this is the error I got when I tried to install the .deb package, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1413710:34
ArrowHeadthe 3d acceleration is... well... crappy :|10:35
nicolas_there is some default brown background i cant remove10:35
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Jowinicolas_: yeah, i think you do that in gdmsetup. click the checkbox for a solid colour and pick something else than the brown one, then untick that box again. I think that's the way I did it... i think.10:35
SeveasXbox_guru, grab the debian **etch** package for opera10:35
studenthow do we list topics available under ubotu?10:35
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Xbox_guruseveras: what?, i'm new to linux10:36
Seveasubotu, tell student about yourself10:36
student!ubotu10:36
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.10:36
NoUseSeveas does the link ubotu has about opera not work anymore?10:36
Xbox_guruseveras, where can I get that10:36
nicolas_Jowi: ohh yea but its on the panel for non-graphical banner, but ill try10:36
ubuntu!ubotu10:36
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.10:36
SeveasXbox_guru, on opera.com10:36
benji_123456789Rhine:  check out http://art.gnome.org/10:36
benji_123456789and http://www.gnome-look.org/10:36
studentlol10:36
benji_123456789anyone got google talk running on Gaim2?10:36
daryl_seveas, I'm having troubles installing a pckage.  it says: Package requirements (xorg-server xproto fontsproto xf86dgaproto ) were not met.  any ideas?10:36
studentthanks Seveas10:37
rsa_md5I have a internal PcTel HSP56 micromodem. I have downloaded the .tar.gz driver. Where do I extract it?10:37
Seveasdaryl_, *only* use apt to install X10:37
Seveasdon't do it manually10:37
daryl_seveas: i'm trying to install a SIS driver.10:37
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Seveasdaryl_, binary or source?10:38
jramseyXbox_guru, did u try installing libqt3-mt-odbc10:38
daryl_seveas: source10:38
benji_123456789McNutella: its giving me issues dsending PM'S try this bro http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100899&highlight=gaim2+install10:38
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McNutellamuchos benji_12345678910:39
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ubuntusomewhat intelligent10:39
daryl_seveas: i been having major problems with GLX extensions, and was told i need to reinstall my driver.  the only thing I could figure was to download the source and compile it.  so I finally found one, and have been trying... and get these errors.10:39
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paxmasterwhat is the best application to use for open LDAP10:39
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benji_123456789anyone got google talk running on Gaim2?10:40
Seveasbenji_123456789, stop repeating10:40
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Eftarjinsalut10:41
MersaultI'm having problems trying to get either snes9x or zsnes working under ubuntu. I have an old pIII866 with a nvidia geforce2 plugged my tv set. I'm running the nvidia driver, and I know I've made zsnes work under linux in a different distro. However, in ubuntu when I try to change the video mode from a small windowed mode to 800x600 fullscreen, zsnes stops responding and cpu usage goes straight to 100%. Any ideas?10:41
Eftarjinje viens d'installer avec le cd "daily", mais windows boote sans rien me demander, et /boot/grub n'existe pas, alors que le paquet "grub" est bien install ...10:41
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homeware,.mvh10:41
MisterN!fr10:42
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:42
MystaMax!fr10:42
Mitsurugihwo do you install Java?10:42
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studentpaxmaster, OpenLDap10:42
kill0meterhow do I run an application maximized all the time?10:42
Eftarjinsorry : i just installed using the "daily" disc, but windows boots first, and /boot/grub doesn't exist ...10:42
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MystaMax!java10:42
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:42
Eftarjini've no grub10:43
Blake79Ok, (new to utumbu), I was the guy logged onto IRC as utumbu.  (I was excited).   I used the scripts to access the hard drives.  Now I guess i need to build up apps. I'm using .mpeg as my first goal.10:43
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JowiEftarjin: have you had a chance to read the wikipage about fixing grub?10:43
Blake79you mentioned mozilla?  mplayer.  i need to download that?10:43
Jowiubotu: tell Eftarjin about grub10:44
EftarjinJowi: would you give me that chance ? like an URL ?10:44
Mitsurugiwhat do you have to Download to be able to listen to MP3/MP4 files?10:44
Eftarjinthanks10:44
JowiEftarjin: np :)10:44
Jowiubotu: tell Mitsurugi about mp310:45
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Blake79ubotu: tell blake79 about mp310:45
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Blake79:)10:45
DyngoI can't see most texts in my flash plugin, any ideas on how to solve that?? very weird...10:45
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jtmoney_Grub allows an image to be displayed behind the menu. You can obtain a set of images with the package "grub-splashimages" -- i can't find that package, what gives?10:46
Mitsurugiis here any converters to change MP3/4 into .ogg?10:46
nzxis the macromedia website broken ? i cant seem to download the flash plugin10:46
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JowiDyngo: there should be a font package for that. hold, i will have a look10:46
Kelsey23What is the name of the SVN client in Ubuntu Linux?10:46
daryl_!tell daryl_ about xorg10:46
jtmoney_nzx, search wiki.ubuntu.com ... there's a guide for installing it10:46
NoUseMitsurugi you can be its usually not recommended to covert from one lossy format to another, you lose quality10:47
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nzxjtmoney, i'm following that, but the plugin fails to download10:47
EftarjinJowi: there is a wikipage RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows , but in facts, in installed Ubuntu after windows10:47
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MitsurugiOh its not that big of a deal, Where do I download a converter10:47
jtmoney_nzx, hmm, not sure then10:47
jtmoney_=(10:47
awolfI can't get the accelerated nvidia drivers working10:47
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NoUseawolf have you read the wiki guide?10:48
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awolfYes. and followed it.10:48
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NoUseawolf what error are you getting?10:49
awolfGDM won't start, and I get a black screen that appears to hard lock the box10:49
awolfI can't switch to a virtual terminal, or SSH in10:49
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NoUseawolf what kind of nvidia card do you have?10:49
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ArrowHeadso, nobody can help me with my ATI gfx card?10:49
daryl_seveas, i'm not sure if you missed my post.  were you still thinking about my question?10:49
awolfnVidia Corporation NV 36 [GeForce 5700] 10:49
gurumeditationerIs it feasible to take checkinstall created .debs and fix them up to be on par with normal .debs?10:49
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kayhello10:50
Xbox_guruseveras: i still get problems installing opera10:50
fabiooi10:50
awolfI've gotten this error in other linuxes when AGP wasn't compiled as a module10:50
Seveasgurumeditationer, not really....10:50
pmwhere are locales options stored in the system-. the ones set by dpkg-reconfigure locales?10:50
Seveasdaryl_, sorry, was afk10:50
Kelsey23What is the name of the SVN client in Ubuntu Linux?10:50
kayI have a problem with amsn 0.95-310:50
SeveasXbox_guru, pastebin the errors please10:50
Xbox_guru" Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed"10:50
daryl_Seveas: no worries.  just wondering how to fix this problem.10:50
SeveasKelsey23, subversion 10:50
NoUseawolf start your computer in recovery mode and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for lines starting with EE10:50
gurumeditationerSeveas: Is there a good guide for building packages specifically for Ubuntu?10:50
JowiDyngo: try to install the "gsfonts" package10:50
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SeveasXbox_guru, for the third time: grab the debian etch package. NOT THE SARGE ONE10:51
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kayI upgrade it to this version, but when I going to run it, it only charges and do not anything...10:51
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Seveasgurumeditationer, it's the same as for debian10:51
doctormohello all10:51
jramseyXbox_guru, go here and it tells u what to do; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser10:51
Kelsey23Seveas: Thanks10:51
Xbox_gurui googled it and that what it brought me to10:51
fabioquem tem manual desse mirk10:51
daryl_Seveas: yo asked if the driver I am trying to install is source or binary.  the answer is it is a Source.10:51
Seveasfabio, english only please10:51
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jramseyXbox_guru, i installed ok am configuring now10:51
gravesonArrowhead:wish i could help you ,but i have been struggling for a month now with no answers as yet10:51
fabioportugues10:52
Seveas!pt10:52
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.10:52
JowiEftarjin: should work the same way. if grub fails you can try to do follow the instructions to re-install grub.10:52
awolfNoUse, it doesn't even generate a log file, because my /var/log/Xorg.0.log is a sucessful start using the nv driver.10:52
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Seveasdaryl_, ah right, the SIS driver10:52
vompattiomg.10:52
daryl_Seveas: yep.  i'm having major errors10:52
SeveasI'm going to have to disappoint you - I'm leaving in a minute so won't be able to help you with it10:52
vompattiMy xserver just dont want to start. i've reinstalled ubuntu 2 times.10:52
gravesonhow do i get the shorcut keys working again eg ctrl alt f1 . Keyboard shorcuts from preferences does not seem to work10:53
NoUseawolf so youve install the glx package and you've made sure you have the restriccted-modules package for your kernel10:53
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daryl_Seveas: it says 'extension GLX missing on display'.  so i was told to reinstall my SIS driver.  so I finally found the driver.10:53
Mitsurugi?vompatti: what graphics card are you using?10:53
Blake79Question, I have installed the Live Boot CD, but it seems the OS is running slow.  What is a better way to utilize the OS without changin current system configurations?10:53
vompattix800.10:53
daryl_Seveas: ah... ok10:53
vompattiradeon10:53
doctormoI can't configure my network, I have 3 interfaces (eth0, eth2, wlan0) I have a script I constructed which configures all the interfaces so that eth2 and wlan0 can share the internet provided by eth0, dhclient is run on eth0 and dhcpd is started. my problem is 'I'm sick of running this damn script every time I switch on my computer'10:53
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NoUseBlake79 you mean you are running from the LiveCD?10:54
Mitsurugiyou have to install the ati drivers10:54
vompattiwell mm ?10:54
daryl_gnomefreak: can you tell me why i'm having troubles installing this?  or do you have to know sis to help me w/a install?10:54
Jowidaryl_: just curious. what did you do to break it? a dist-upgrade?10:54
DyngoJowi: ok I'll try that, thx!10:54
MystaMaxanyone familar w/ the cat /proc/cpuinfo command and dual processors? I need to know how u tell if there are two10:54
vompattihow to get em, im in the non-graph mode and i dont know what to do :'<10:54
gnomefreakdaryl_: what type of file extention is it?10:54
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Blake79yes, just installed today?10:54
jramseyXbox_guru, use this instead of instructions => sudo apt-get install lesstif1 lesstif210:54
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daryl_Jowi: I have no clue.  the only thing I remember doing different was typing 'ldconfig'.10:54
lssCould someone tell me if hotmail.com is down? My kopete isn't signing on.10:54
fyrestrtrcan someone please help me with iptables? Trying to open port 25 for one host behind the nat. Been trying since 3 PM, now its 11 PM.10:54
daryl_gnomefreak.  tar.gz, containing a bunch of files w/source10:55
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gnomefreakdaryl_: thats what a tar is ;)10:55
daryl_gnomefreak: i extracted those, and tried to run a ./configure10:55
MystaMaxfyrestrtr: its hanging for me10:55
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Xbox_guruseveras,, I cannot find any other packages besides sarge10:55
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gnomefreakdaryl_: ok once you extracted them did you read the README or INSTALL files?10:55
MitsurugiVompatti: try putting sudo Dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg and set up your graphics hardware10:55
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daryl_gnomefreak: yes I did, but it didn't give instructions.  it was just like this huge information that didnt' meake sense to me10:55
awolfNoUse, I have nvidia-glx and restricted-modules for my kernel installed.10:56
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EdwinI use to have an option to select a theme to download from some art program does anyone know that name of it?10:56
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jramseyXbox_guru, ok opera runs but when i start it from a terminal, i get the following http://pastebin.ca/5633410:56
jramseynot sure if these matter10:56
daryl_gnomefreak: i'll pastebin it so you can see what i mean.10:56
gnomefreakdaryl_: did it say anything about packages to install before you installed driver?10:56
NoUseawolf run 'sudo modprobe nvidia' and then run dmesg10:56
gnomefreakdaryl_: ty10:56
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Jowidaryl_: ldconfig will not break that. if it worked before it is easier to reinstall X to get it to work again instead of downloading a driver from somewhere that is not certain to solve the issue anyway (even if you do manage to compile it). If I were you (which I am not) I would see if a re-install of Xorg solved it.10:56
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doctormoMystaMax: /proc/cpuinfo tells you about the cpus so perhaps a cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep SomethingUniq | wc -l10:57
daryl_Jowi: tell me how, i'd love to do the easiest thing : )10:57
daryl_gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1414110:57
gnomefreakty brb10:57
awolfThe kernel shows itself loading the 7667 driver10:57
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Jowidaryl_: hold. i will see what i can experiment on10:58
doctormoMystaMax: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor | wc -l should do it10:58
MystaMaxdoctormo: thanks, what does the command after the second pipe mean "wc -l"10:58
vompattimm didnt work. said "unknown command" about the Dpkg-reconfigure.10:58
jramsey!wc10:58
ubotujramsey: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:58
doctormoMystaMax: word count, line count mode10:58
daryl_Jowi: *holding patient like*10:58
Blake79NoUSE, i got disconnected.10:58
Jowidaryl_: btw, are you sure you should use siliconmotion and not sis driver?10:58
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gnomefreakdaryl_: do you have any of the listed cards?10:58
snowfakedhmh i seem to have 50Hz on my lcd display, how can i easily change it to 60Hz?10:59
Zoroasterhas anyone here setup a samba server to live in a windows 2000 AD domain?10:59
NoUseawolf hmm, and xorg.conf lists 'nvidia' as the driver?10:59
jramseyMystaMax, info wc .. counts lines10:59
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NoUseBlake79 are you running breezy or dapper?10:59
daryl_Jowi: i don't know.10:59
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awolfNoUse, it currently says nv, and thats why I can talk to you guys now.  But if I change it to nvidia, the box dies when X tries to run10:59
Jowidaryl_: which one did you set up in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?10:59
MystaMaxjramsey: thanks10:59
daryl_gnomefreak: it said series, so I thought I had that.  not sure.  all i know is its a default card10:59
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gymsmokeanyone here have knowledge of setting up ssl certificates?10:59
daryl_jowi: one moment10:59
MystaMaxso what does it mean if it says "0"??10:59
gnomefreakdaryl_: can you pastebin the install file also please that file isnt wortha  crap10:59
Blake79I believe dapper?  How do i check11:00
NoUseawolf I'm not sure whats causing that, you might try dapper when it comes out11:00
MystaMaxi guess it means 1 processor, but lists "0"11:00
Blake79I'm assuming the most recent one11:00
daryl_gnomefreak: did i tell you? haha it was a buncha worthless bs11:00
NoUseBlake79 run 'lsb_release -a'11:00
gnomefreakBlake79: lsb_release -a11:00
vompattioh shit.11:00
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vompattiCan anyone help ?11:00
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gnomefreakdaryl_: thats abnormal11:00
Jowi!ask11:00
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.11:00
rafal_hi evrybody11:00
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ArrowHeadok um how do i run a program as super-user?11:00
daryl_jowi: "Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS Default Card"11:00
Xbox_gurujramsey, whenever I use that, it always comes up with errors11:00
awolfsudo11:00
vompattiXserver wont start, it just gives an error; "no screens found" or something.11:00
jramseyArrowHead, sudo11:00
Blake79codename breezy11:01
kirkunitArrowhead11:01
daryl_gnomefreak, checking11:01
kirkunitsudo11:01
jramseyXbox_guru, the same two i get?11:01
NoUseBlake79 then you need to get the install Cd, you are running off the live cd which is inherently slower11:01
doctormoMystaMax: could you send me your results from the cat? (without the pipes)11:01
Xbox_guruhold on, I never tried configuring it11:01
daryl_gnomefreak: i have a install-sh, but i dont' think you want it.11:01
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jramseyXbox_guru, do all the instructions say to do11:01
ArrowHeadI've never used any Linux distro before... so how do i run a program from ym desktop with sudo?11:01
gnomefreakdaryl_: run sh install.sh11:01
Xbox_guruit always told me it had errors when I installed it so I'd uninstall it11:01
gnomefreak:)11:01
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DyngoJowi: thx the problem is now ok :)11:02
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daryl_gnomefreak: no input specified11:02
JowiDyngo: cool11:02
kirkunitArrowhead: could you repeat what you're trying to do?11:02
tonyyarussoArrowHead: Add it to the launcher.11:02
Blake79trying to make the other universes available to download the mozilla package.  I'm assuming i don't have access to that area yet.11:02
Jowidaryl_: that is the name of the autodetected one. and which driver did you chose manually? "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" (note the capital D in driver)11:02
gnomefreakdaryl_: no install file huh?11:02
ArrowHeadI have a .run file on my desktop that i want to run as super-user11:02
Blake79OK, when i install, will it be on top of Window's?11:02
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ArrowHeadhow do i do so, for example if the file is widget.run?11:03
doctormoArrowHead: command line or gui program?11:03
NoUseBlake79 you  will have to repartition to make space11:03
Xbox_gurujramsey: the package manager would tell me there is a broken package11:03
gnomefreakArrowHead: sudo sh file.run11:03
daryl_jowi: "sis"11:03
Jowidaryl_: perfect11:03
daryl_gnomefreak: you got it.. thats why i'm baning my head11:03
ArrowHeader i don't know... its an ATI driver installer11:03
daryl_jowi: i'm glad something is perfect11:03
keithyo11:03
Blake79Can i install on another drive than my windows drive?  I have two hd's.  If so, how would i access it.  Is there any material on this.11:03
NoUse!tell Blake79 about installation11:04
NoUse!tell Blake79 about install11:04
gnosticapex!pastebin11:04
ubotupastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126911:04
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jramseyXbox_guru, when i followed the instructions and downloaded the deb pkg by hand, and installed via : sudo dpkg -i opera_8.54-20060330.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb11:04
jramseyit worked11:04
NoUseBlake79 the installer will ask you where you want to put ubuntu11:04
Jowidaryl_: does this help "sudo apt-get install libglitz-glx1" ?11:04
Mersaulthas anyone here managed to get zsnes or snes9x running in fullscreen in ubuntu?11:04
snowfakedblah11:04
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Blake79and when i do?  Will i boot to Linux?  or access through Windows?11:05
snowfakedtried to do dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server but this is still 50Hz and blinking :/11:05
Xbox_gurujramsey, where did you go to get that package11:05
Blake79I have the materials i will research11:05
NoUseBlake79 you boot into Linux11:05
Xbox_guruit always gives me sarge11:05
daryl_Jowi: installing it now.  i saw it earlier.  but wasnt' srue what it did11:05
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snowfakedis there another way to try to fix this to 60Hz?11:05
daryl_jowi: so i left it alone11:05
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|_fouad_|help, why i get connection timeout when trying to DALnet server in xchat while i can connect to any server11:05
|_fouad_|???11:05
Blake79I guess i just need to know the install won't overwrite any window's config.  I'm still in learning mode11:05
ArrowHeader ok the .run file I'm trying to run is a shell script11:05
salkotAll of a sudden, my computer only logs me out when I select "Shut Down". What happened??11:06
daryl_jowi: you asked if it still helps.  I'm still getting the Xlib: extension "GLX" missing ondisplay11:06
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Blake79Also, on another track, i'm trying to gain access to other repositories not available during initial Live CD?11:06
JowiMersault: yep. in zsnes go to config/video and chose for example 640x480 DS FULL11:06
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jramseyXbox_guru, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser and goto opera download site, then select unbuntu breezy and open the download, then save to /tmp, navigate to /tmp with terminal then type sudo dpkg -i opera<Tab key>.deb like the instructions say11:06
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MersaultJowi: that just causes zsnes to stop responding and cpu usage goes to 100% when I do that11:06
vompattitell me a program that with i can edit .cf file on non-graphical mode?11:06
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NoUseBlake79 you cannot install any software while running on the live cd11:07
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Jowidaryl_: was worth a shot anyway.11:07
|_fouad_|help11:07
daryl_Jowi: hehe thanks : )11:07
|_fouad_|???11:07
daryl_Jowi: you said there was a easy way to install my X again.  i'm not sure what you mean.11:07
gnosticapexUm, so, how does one fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1414311:07
Blake79i guess that makes sense.  <looks for gun>    :)  OK, i'm going to work on installing this.   QUESTION.11:07
jramseyXbox_guru, i then had to install a few more pkgs sudo apt-get install lesstif1 lesstif211:07
Blake79If i install onto the non-windows HD, I can use BIOS to let the computer which OS to boot into, correct?11:08
NoUseBlake79 linux will install a boot menu fo ryou11:08
MersaultJowi: I have a nvidia geforce2 with the nvidia drivers installed (old I know, but powerful enough for this). it's connected to my television via s-video at 800x600 res.11:08
vompattihello ?11:08
vompattitell me a program that with i can edit .cf file on non-graphical mode?11:08
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|_fouad_|help, why i get connection timeout when trying to DALnet server in xchat while i can connect to any server ????11:09
daryl_gnomefreak: any other ideas on how to install this undocumented driver? lol11:09
NoUsevompatti nano11:09
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tonyyarussoBlake79: That's actually not true...11:09
gnomefreakdaryl_: not off hand sorry brb11:09
Blake79and the boot menu will ask where to boot to?   <this won't overwrite any windows configurations?> Don't want to lose my computer on my day off.11:09
gnosticapexhow do I fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1414311:09
poimenin ubuntu dapper xgl is installed by default?11:09
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Blake79I'm downloading the install cd now.11:09
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tonyyarussoBlake79: You CAN install software while in a Live session, but it will load everything into your RAM, so if you don't have much of that, it could cause trouble.11:10
tonyyarussopoimen: No.11:10
JowiMersault: i've got a crappy onboard chipset and it still work :)11:10
daryl_Jowi: *daryl waits in anticipation to be inlightened from on high*11:10
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Xbox_gurujramsey: ohh, I found it, sorry I was doing the Xandros download and didn't know you had to change that11:10
salahhi. is there any ways to fix the mouse sensetivity? I use a synaptics touchpad for my laptop11:10
ArrowHeadwhere can i find my xwindows config file?11:10
daryl_Jowi: i at least hope you get a good chuckle today : )11:10
MersaultJowi: So I guess then you don't have any particular suggestions...11:10
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awolfArrowHead, /etc/X11/Xorg.conf11:10
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Blake79well, i believe i'm ready to install anyway, and i don't have much.  :)   I just don't want to mess anything up.11:11
Jowidaryl_: yeah, i'm checking some forums on sis11:11
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Eftarjinis an USB mouse supposed to work out-of-the-box ?11:11
daryl_Jowi: i'm having a heck of a time, i tried so many forums.  it was unreal...11:11
Eftarjinin fact it's an USB to PS/2 adaptor11:11
JowiMersault: nope. but does it work when you don't connect it s-video style?11:11
jramseyXbox_guru, Xandros is good, Ubuntu is better :)11:11
harisundgnosticapex: looks like there is a problem with the repositories. Firstly, try doing 'sudo apt-get update' and then try your 'sudo apt-get install' and then check if it works?11:11
NoUseBlake79 read the instructions carefully and you should be fine11:11
daryl_jowi: i found one link that suggested i go to http://www.winischhofer.net/11:12
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daryl_jowi: i also found this in a google search: http://rpm.rutgers.edu/repository/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-driver-sis/11:12
Blake79man, I never read instructions, but it seems like a good time to start.11:12
Jowidaryl_: i see the problem when some people tried dapper upgrade, but not in breezy. you're sure you didn't try to upgrade to dapper?11:12
ArrowHeadok so now how would i get to my ATI console?11:13
Blake79I'm downloading through Linux, I selected save to disk, but it didn't prompt for location?11:13
MersaultJowi: no monitor around really to test it with. but as far as the computer is concerned it should just be an 800x600 monitor, i think11:13
Mystery47Eftarjin: yes11:13
harisundBlake79, doing an rtfm is not always necessary, but sometimes what you learn from actually reading is amazing11:13
daryl_Jowi: nope, i uninstalled dapper a week ago, and went back to breezy, full reformat11:13
EftarjinMystery47: mine doesn't :(11:13
Blake79rtfm?11:13
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coz_is there a way to reconfigure icons in dapper/11:13
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JowiMersault: try the "pal" or "ntsc" option with zsnes. other than that i have no clue11:13
jtmoneyis there a release date for dapper drake yet?11:13
awolfRTFM: read the manual11:13
Drac|Macbrb11:13
Xbox_gurujramsey: I get this error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1414511:14
daryl_jowi: at this point i'm starting to wonder if reinstalling ubuntu wouldn't be the easiest solution...  can you think of something easier to uninstall/reinstallt hen the whole system?11:14
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Blake79:) OK.       So this .iso file for install cd.  I can write this to CD from this OS?11:14
Blake79brb11:15
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Mystery47Eftarjin: bad...:(11:15
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Jowidaryl_: well, you have the drivers installed. you have the libglitz installed, you have chosen the correct driver. wierd11:16
h3h_timowhere are the default desktop backgrounds located?11:16
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daryl_Jowi: um could I uninstall something and reinstall from scratch?11:16
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Jowidaryl_: ah wait!11:17
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daryl_Jowi: *Stops mid sentence*11:17
daryl_Jowi: *waits*11:17
holycowdoes anyone know if open office has any logging facility? i have an oo install thats hanging and need to track down wher eit issue might be11:17
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jramseyXbox_guru, sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-odbc11:18
Jowidaryl_: here ( http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart3.shtml#faq ) it say that you should EITHER add Load "glx" OR  "Dri off". can you post your xorg.conf please. i suspect you got both enabled11:18
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jkarrhello11:18
ArrowHeadhow do i open the ati console?11:18
harisundhello jkarr11:18
daryl_Jowi: i'll go make the change, and test it, and then post it11:18
Jowidaryl_: use pastebin11:18
daryl_Jowi: brb11:18
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Trae!pastebin11:19
ubotuI guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126911:19
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gnosticapexharisund: sudo apt-get update gets to 0% [waiting for headers]  [waiting for headers]  and then does nothing.11:20
Xbox_gurujramsey: it said it can't find the package lists11:20
m0biu5where can I find errors that are displayed during boot (specifically alsa stuff)11:20
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cwilluwhere do I turn off the snapping movement of windows?11:20
Xbox_guru\jramsey: it can't find the package11:20
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Xbox_gurumy bad11:20
harisundgnosticapex, I believe there is a problem with the repositories then. Trying after a while is the best suggestion I can make at the moment, and by the way, make sure your internet is working fien as well. Maybe apt-get is not able to connect to the servers.11:21
Kelsey23Someone had a few clones11:21
daryl_Jowi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14148  (Note I just did a # in front, and it didnt' make a difference.  in the DRI.  also note the DRI ino at the bottom.  should i comment it out too?11:21
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gnosticapexharisund: no other net problems, gaim and everything connect fine, only other problem is at the moment dvd drive is unresponsive >.>11:22
Xbox_gurujramsey: do I need to install the build essentials, i reformatted my computer and put ubuntu back on it so there not installed11:22
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cwillugnosticapex: what's the problem you're having?11:22
StargazersHi. What is the best software (or any software at all) what I can use to convert AVI to MKV or any other formats (like OGM etc) without recompressing video and audio?11:22
Jowidaryl_: no. it look ok (now). should work like a sharm :-/11:23
gnosticapexcwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1414311:23
Jowis/sharm/charm11:23
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gnosticapexcwillu: getting that in my terminal11:23
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gnosticapexcwillu: thats one of my many problems at the moment =)11:23
cwilluheh, I know the feeling :p11:23
daryl_Jowi:  so what do you think the easiest resolution is?11:23
SX3Hi, can anyone help with a problem I've got? Tis with flash11:23
ArrowHeadhow do i open ATI console?11:23
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Jowidaryl_: did you reboot or did you just restart X after you added the restricted modules?11:24
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StargazersDo you know anyone?11:24
salahhi. is there any ways to fix the mouse sensetivity? I use a synaptics touchpad for my laptop and the sensetivity is to high11:24
gnosticapexAh, it's actually semi-working now with apt-get update, w00!11:24
daryl_Jowi: niether11:24
daryl_Jowi: do i need to?11:24
Jowidaryl_: yes11:24
cwilludumb question, can you ping archive.ubuntu.com right now?11:24
harisundgnosticapex, told ya. Happens once a while to all of us, I guess..11:24
daryl_Jowi: BRB11:24
gnosticapexyees 891B/s11:24
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jramseyXbox_guru, sudo apt-get update11:24
gnosticapexyeesh*11:24
gnosticapexx_x11:24
ArrowHeadhow do i open ATI console?11:24
jramseythen try again11:24
Stargazerscwillu: Yes11:24
Stargazerscwillu: I can ping that11:25
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Blake79This download will download even though i'm on live CD right?11:25
ArrowHeadhow do i open ATI console?11:25
Xbox_gurujramsey: ok...11:25
cwilluStargazers:  sorry, was asking gnosticapex11:25
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Stargazerscwillu: What?11:25
Stargazerscwillu: I meant that ping answerred right and it worked well11:26
NoUseBlake79 what are you downloading?11:26
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cwilluaka, wasn't talking to you, unless you were saying that gnosticapex could ping it11:26
cwilluokay :p11:26
StargazersOk11:26
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gnosticapexharisund: yeah, everything seems to hate me today. I cant even get my dvd drive to open and it refused to read my ubuntu disk X_X had to force the drive open just to retrieve the disk. Ontop of that, slow net + media problems heh11:26
Blake79the install CD11:26
m0biu5anyone have any suggestions on how to partition a new 150gb external hdd?11:26
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harisundgnosticapex, hmmmm....slow net happens to everyone yeah.. but I am surprised about the DVD problem that you seem to be having :(11:27
Blake79should save to my hd somewhere ?11:27
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NoUseBlake79 no11:27
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NoUseBlake79 the live cd doesn't have write permissions ot your windows HD11:27
gnosticapexharisund: yeah, I dont know whats up, everything was working fine yesterday ;_; now this lol11:27
NoUseBlake79 you should reboot into Windows and download the ISO there11:27
loquitus_of_borgCan anybody tell me the name of the application that gets run when I select the "networking" gui tool under administration in Ubuntuu? I am not at the machine right now but I want to run it remotely11:27
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loquitus_of_borgI just have no idea what it is called11:27
daryl_Jowi: reboot, no luck11:28
mwem0biu5: I'm the one big partition kind of person11:28
harisundloqui..... I think it is gnome-network-preferences11:28
Jowidaryl_: still glx error or something else?11:28
Blake79OK, i'm bcking out, starting rom scratch.  thanks nouse.  I'll see you on the flip-side11:28
m0biu5mwe, why is that?11:28
harisundloquitus_of_borg, did you get my reply?11:28
daryl_Jowi: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:28
cwilluloquitus_of_borg: tab completion is your friend;  gnome-<tab><tab><tab> until you see it :)11:28
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loquitus_of_borghariusund: yep. you the man :)11:29
zack_can someone help me with a nvidia driver problem?11:29
Jowidaryl_: I would love to say I have another solution. i'm lost11:29
Xbox_gurujramsey, I did but it still says it can't find the package11:29
loquitus_of_borgcwillu: yep. got it :)11:29
harisundcwillu, gnome-<tab>-<tab> will probably list a ton of stuff.. gnome-net<tab><tab> might just be better..11:29
chapiumanyone have trouble with Breezy & gmail lately?11:29
daryl_Jowi: is the best solution to reinstall my whole ubnuntu installation?  or  ist here soemthing else I could remove and reinstall?11:29
mwem0biu5: I don't need a lot of partitions. In the general case I don't need it.11:29
cwilluone would hope one would figure that out if one is smart enough to be ssh'ing into one's box :)11:29
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loquitus_of_borghariusund: actually I want to configure the ethernet interfaces, not the network proxy11:29
cwilluturns out that one was smart enough, so it all works out (for once)  :p11:29
harisundcwillu too many one's there :(11:30
m0biu5mwe, what about making it an LVM or something - I am not really sure how, but that seems like it might be a good idea11:30
mwem0biu5: also I don't get problems with partitions being to small, using only one11:30
zack_how can i install the nvidia driver through the recovery thing? i went here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual but the second command wasnt working for me11:30
Jowidaryl_: you can re-install X of course, but it will take everything else with it as well (including gnome) so it is probably easier just to reinstall the system11:30
CinWhy do Flash videos become out of synch so easily on Ubuntu?11:30
awolfCin, that's all of linux.  It's macromedia's fault.11:30
mwem0biu5: LVM is great if you want many disks to work like one11:30
Cinawolf, I thought as much.11:30
daryl_Jowi: you say i could reinstall X.  but it will take everything with it.  including gnome.  is gnome my GUI?11:31
Jowidaryl_: yes. gnome is your gui.11:31
m0biu5mwe, i see - i just think i'd like to separate backups from regular usage on the disk, you know?11:31
daryl_Jowi: grr.. how do i reinstallt he gnome?11:31
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zack_how can i install the nvidia driver through the recovery mode? i went here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual (im using brezzybadger) but the second command wasnt working for me11:31
Cinawolf, no... patches or solutions for it...? Maybe they'll fix it with 8.5 that they're supposed to be doing for Linux.11:31
mwem0biu5: yes that makes sense11:31
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mwem0biu5: I'd keep backup on a seperate disk or partiton as well11:32
Jowidaryl_: probably quicker just to re-install everything since we are not sure where the problem lies11:32
m0biu5mwe, are chronjobs the best way to backup on ubuntu11:32
m0biu5mwe, well thats what i was thinking - have less then half for backups and the likes11:32
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daryl_Jowi: lol... ok... i'll probably come in to work tomorrow early and do it then.  sigh... all this because I can't run wine...11:32
mwem0biu5: that saves you the trouble of doing it manually11:32
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harisundm0biu5 cronjobs are pretty good. You can customize hte backup the way you want ..11:32
daryl_Jowi: i tried to install ies4linux beta recently.  i wonder, could that have caused the problem?11:33
jtmoneyi'm trying to edit my /boot/grub/menu.lst file, but whenever i run update-grub, it removes the entry for xp!11:33
Jowidaryl_: did you at least set up a separate /home partition so you don't lose your personal files?11:33
jtmoneyanyone know why?11:33
mwem0biu5: but you'd probably want to use incremental backups for regular backup jobs11:33
Jowidaryl_: no idea what ies4linux is11:33
daryl_Jowi: i'll just copy them to a file space designated for me on the network.11:33
daryl_Jowi: ies4linux is Internet Explorer, installed in Wine.11:33
mwem0biu5: http://www.linux-backup.net/11:34
Jowidaryl_: aha.11:34
zack_can someone help me with a nvidia driver problem please?11:34
m0biu5mwe, thanks11:34
Drac|MacI just got an old "bondi blue" G3 iMac. I tried to install Ubuntu on it, but the installer CD, while booting, says it fails to decompress about a hundred things, then has a kernel panic. Any ideas?11:34
Xbox_guruI guess I'll just have to use firefox11:34
daryl_Jowi: it has a registry editer.  etc...11:34
daryl_Jowi: i had to import registry settings, but I assum they have nothing to do w/the normal workings of this.11:34
Jowidaryl_: i recommend that you create a dedicated /home partition if you havent already. a re-install wont hurt that much if you do11:34
Xbox_gurubut opera I love... and wish I could use11:34
loquitus_of_borgcwillu: actually that was the wrong one. do you know what the name of the ethernet (or network) device configuration tool is?11:34
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daryl_Jowi: its easier to just copy the files to another computer, and copy them back11:35
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loquitus_of_borgthe one I tried brings up proxy settings11:35
Jowidaryl_: i have no idea about how wine work. i tested it first time yesterday to play homeworld :)11:35
loquitus_of_borgnot ethernet settings11:35
daryl_Jowi: i hate extra partitions11:35
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daryl_Jowi: wine is a wonderful program.  I run World of Warcraft using it at home.11:35
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daryl_Jowi: it was the only thing stopping me from switching form windows to linux all these years11:36
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daryl_Jowi: and i finally decided to take the plunge, and formatted both my computers and installed ubuntu on them, and made myself figure out how to make them work.11:36
gravesoncan anyone help me fix my keyboard shortcuts for example ctrl-alt-f211:36
Jowidaryl_: my brother is totally hooked on Wow. has played it forever. how do you like ubuntu so far then (excluding glx problems)?11:37
daryl_Jowi: let me share one more thing w/you and see if that helps clarify it with you at all.11:37
Jowidaryl_: /msg me instead since it is getting offtopic :)11:37
daryl_Jowi: i love it.  but I'm finding Linux has major problems with video cards.11:37
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cwilluloquitus_of_borg: try the other one, there's two that start with gnome-net11:38
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m0biu5where can i find boot logs?11:39
nzxhey guys, i installed the nvidia package, and did nvidia-glx-settings enable, but i get an error saying nvdia device cannot be found11:39
ArchvilleUhmm this question will sound stupid...11:39
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cwillubah, sorry, I lied11:39
ArchvilleI can run a proccess as root with "sudo" but there is any way to run a proccess while beeing root as a determined user ?11:39
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cwilluArchville: sudo takes a user parameter;  peek at man sudo11:40
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cwilludon't know that it works out of the box, but I think it does11:40
cleverwhere was that link to wireless info on ubuntu?11:40
nzxi tried doing modprobe nvida, then reloading xserver, but it still gives same error11:40
Archvillecwillu, ok, thanks11:40
Drac|MacNo ideas?11:40
nzxArchville, i'll find a link to the help file for you, one sec11:40
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cwilluloquitus_of_borg: network-admin is the one you're looking for11:40
ArchvilleIt seems "-u username" will do the trick.11:40
cwilluloquitus_of_borg: (yay 'locate net' :p)11:41
nzxArchville, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#whatissudo11:41
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nzxArchville, thats exctally what you are looking for11:41
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Archvillethanks :)11:41
nzxArchville, np11:41
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loquitus_of_borgcwillu: yep. that's it!11:42
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nzxneed help getting nvidia driver to work please11:42
fmasihi i like to know how to get test flight 811:42
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fyrestrtris there something special to do to configure shorewall?11:42
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cwilluwhere do I go to turn off the snapping-to-other-windows feature of gnome?11:43
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zack_nzx: i need help too but you seem to be farther than i am11:43
nzxzack_, what the problem ?11:44
nzxwhats*11:44
zack_nzx: do you know how to install nvidia drivers from recovery mode?11:44
nzxzack_, do you mean the console ?11:44
zack_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual im here but a command isnt working for me11:44
zack_nzx: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    this one doesnt seem to work11:45
jojoman02are there any cli chat programs?11:45
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rodolfo_garciaOI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:45
iNikujojoman02: chat, as in irc?11:45
iNikuirssi is good11:45
chapiumjojoman02: irssi and bitchx are popular11:45
cleveri like irssi11:46
jojoman02yes irc.:), thankz11:46
rodolfo_garciaAlguem do Brasil?11:46
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zukeroi hate irssi, but it is indeed usefull11:46
cleveri perfer mirc but that isnt cli11:46
zukeroi do too11:46
zack_nzx: when ever i type in "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" i get an error stating Gtk-WARNING **: cammot open display:11:46
Archvillecli ?11:46
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kbrookshow do i clear the global clipboard?11:47
clevercommand line interface11:47
zack_cannot* not cammot11:47
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ArchvilleI like weechat.11:47
kbrookshow do i clear the global clipboard?11:47
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zukerozack_ : if you are in console mode, try nano instead of gedit11:47
ArchvilleIt's more or less like irssi/bitchx but you have the userlist.11:47
zack_ok11:47
cleveryou could just copy a single char like d to the clipboard kbrooks11:47
nzxzack_, or you can try 'vi'11:47
zack_that worked thanks zurkero11:47
kbrooksclever: no.11:47
zukeronzx : nano is simpler for a one shot try, as you have the shortcuts written11:48
nzxzack_, have you tried copying the backup conf back and loading gdm ?11:48
nzxzukero, yep, i'm more used to vi, :P11:48
kbrooksclever: that does not clear.11:48
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zukeronzx : thought so, only hard-vi users can use vi, and recommend vi :p11:48
zack_how do you load gdm?11:48
cleverkbrooks it replaces11:49
cleverwhich gets rid of the old contents11:49
chapium!tell rodolfo_garcia about pt11:49
zukerozack_ : sudo killall gdm && sudo gdm11:49
nzxzack_, /etc/init.d/gdm restart11:49
zack_ok ill try that in a moment11:49
lssHey, quick question.. I need a program like DBpower amp, to convert down a batch (about 10) mp3 files to 128kbps quality. Is there any tool for linux to do this? Thanks11:49
zukerozack_ : or, if it works, ctrl+alt+f7 then ctrl+alt+backspace11:49
kbrooksclever: which i dont want11:50
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nzxlss, i think audacity might be able to do it11:50
lithiawhats a good ripper for audio CD?11:50
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lssnzx,  I've tried audacity, but it doesn't have a batch feature i don't think.11:50
zukerolithia : soundjuicer provided with ubuntu does its job11:50
lithiazukero: soundjuicer just makes a lot of noise and doesnt rip properly for me11:51
lithiaany other way?11:51
zukerodamn11:51
lithiahow can I rip from CLI?11:51
zukerocommand line mencoder11:51
kbrooksis there a global clipboard?11:51
zukerobut it's kinda rough11:51
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Nironohi11:51
lithiazukero: what command would I use to rip?11:51
Nironohow can I add a daemon to auto start11:52
lithiazukero: bash: mencoder: command not found11:52
zukerolithia : mencoder (parameters i don't know)11:52
Drac|MacWhat's up with the Ubuntu forums? They're loading very slowly...11:52
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Nironoanyone knows how to enable a  daemon to start automaticly when gdm starts11:52
zukerobut you need mplayer/mencoder11:52
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sam76549hey11:52
zukeroi think you can make it with gstreamer too on command line11:52
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lithiazukero: how can I play audio CD?11:53
zukerotry man mencoder when you installed it11:53
zack_when i type this command "sudo chmod +x NVIDIA*" it says NVIDIA* is not a file or directory11:53
nzxNirono, system->prefrences->session then last tab11:53
lithiazukero: how can I play audio CD from CLI?11:53
zukerolithia : with any good audio player : xmms, amarok, totem, eclair.....11:53
zukeroCLI ?11:53
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zukerooh11:53
zukerook11:53
zukerosorry11:53
lithiazukero: xmms doesnt play audio CD11:53
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zukerolithia : it does11:53
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nzxgonna try nvidia driver once more, brb11:54
zack_when i type this command "sudo chmod +x NVIDIA*" it says NVIDIA* is not a file or directory11:54
Omni|WorkI'm having a problem installing Breezy Badger, and I'm not sure what to do.11:54
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lithiazukero: how?11:55
Omni|WorkI have an Intel Ethernet controller.  PCI ID 8086:109a11:55
lithiazukero: how does xmms play audo CD?11:55
lithiaOmni|Work: then use ms windows11:55
Nirononzx thaaaaanx alot11:55
jullsbuenas11:55
RhineHow do i write to the bin folder im logged in as super user and it wont let me copy some scripts there?11:56
zukerohmm11:56
zukerolithia : ctrl+c11:56
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jullsalguien sabe algun programa para inventariar toda la red de equipos tanto en sw como en hw??11:56
lithiazukero: load xmms and press ctrl+c?11:56
Omni|Worklithia: *rolls eyes* Yeah, right.  I haven't used that POS OS in over 7 years now.11:56
zukerolithia : yeah11:56
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lithiazukero: ok ty11:56
Jowizack_: you just answered your own question.11:57
zukeroyw11:57
lithiazukero: caffine has frozen! how can I kll it?11:57
Omni|Worklithia: I normally use Fedora Core.  I'm trying out Ubuntu here at work.11:57
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Drac|Macubuntuforums.org is broken. Why?11:57
lithiaOmni|Work: ok11:57
zukerolithia : open a term11:57
lithiazukero: caffine has frozen! how can I kill it?11:57
zukerotype xkill11:57
lithiazukero: ok11:57
zukeroclick on app11:57
jkarrtype in a terminal xkill11:57
zack_jowi: what there something i missed that made it not become one11:57
lithiazukero: what will xkill do?11:57
zukerochange your cursor to a fps-like cursor, that will kill the app you click on11:58
jkarrkills a X window11:58
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lithiaterm wont open11:58
zukero...11:58
lithiasys has become unstable11:58
Jowizack_: remember that filenames in linux are case sensitive. NVIDIA is not the same as nvidia or NVidia11:58
zukerodo you have a term somewhere?11:58
jkarrok press ctrl+alt+F211:58
lithiazukero: no! and it wont open11:58
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zack_jowi: ok lemme try some things11:58
jkarrand then killall kafeine11:58
lithiajkarr: will ctrl+alt+F2 shut my dial up?11:58
jkarrlithia11:59
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lithiajkarr: how do I get back here?11:59
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Omni|WorkI have an Intel Ethernet controller.  PCI ID 8086:109a  The version of the e1000 driver in 2.6.16 handles it.  The version in 2.6.12 that ships on the Breezy install CD doesn't.11:59
zukerolithia : ctrl+alt+f711:59
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zukeroto come back11:59
jkarrfirst ctrl+alt+F211:59
zack_jowi: where could i find it?11:59
jkarrthen killall kaffeine11:59
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Drac|MacI'm getting sick of being ignored. Can somebody PLEASE tell me why the Ubuntu forums are down?!11:59
lithiajkarr: ok11:59
jkarrthen press ctrl+alt+F511:59
Jowizack_: "ls" will list the files in the directory you are in.11:59
zack_ok12:00
h3h_timofor some reason i cant open up my theme manager window12:00
jkarror F6 or F7...12:00

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