[12:00] <soundray> NoobThatNeedsHel: possibly
[12:00] <P0ldy> bluefoxicy, Yes, I know what you're talking about... there's nothing to update on my PC right now so I don't have access to it.
[12:00] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  rhythmbox, and skip through songs.
[12:00] <Mynthon> Crimsun: Do I have to reboot?Cause there's still no sound.....:(
[12:00] <NoobThatNeedsHel> so how do i fix it. I have Netgear
[12:00] <soundray> NoobThatNeedsHel: what's an example for an application that won't work
[12:00] <soundray> ?
[12:00] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  when it plays a new song it does the same thing.. heh.
[12:00] <Rakel_23> buenas noches
[12:01] <NoobThatNeedsHel> bit torrent, Cedega authentication process
[12:01] <GlassCasket> Is there a hardware supported list for Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[12:01] <GlassCasket> Is there a hardware supported list for Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[12:01] <GlassCasket> I'd like to know if my wireless router is suppsoer :D
[12:01] <GlassCasket> Sorry
[12:01] <NoobThatNeedsHel> both have no connection
[12:01] <jonuk> Question:  I'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.10.  When it gets to the stage where it is "Starting Partitioner", it gets 100% and then goes to a blue screen and hangs there.  If I hit Ctrl+C, it starts the partitioner again and hangs at 52% everytime.
[12:01] <harfooz> hi all. I posted a dapper problem in #ubuntu+1, but thought it may be someone here that could check something for me. Has anyone got dapper and mozilla-acroread installed?
[12:02] <NoobThatNeedsHel> soundray: you still there
[12:02] <namit> hey ubuntu rocks
[12:02] <sixtymhz> GlassCasket : http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HCL
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  also that forum thread yo ugave me doesn't have it there.
[12:02] <soundray> NoobThatNeedsHel: can you ping www.ubuntulinux.org?
[12:02] <NoobThatNeedsHel> i will try
[12:02] <jonuk> I'm pretty positive it has something to do with my hard drives (first one in particular).  I have 2 hard drives.  One is a 40GB hard drive with Windows installed on it.  The second is a brand new 250 GB hard drive with entirely unallocated space.
[12:02] <sixtymhz> harfooz : I do, why
[12:02] <ompaul> jonuk have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions  or wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge no promises but you might strike it lucky
[12:02] <kevin_> Just to let you all know, easyubuntu's repositories have been down for over a week, so don't bother trying
[12:02] <harfooz> in breezy, when I would browse to a .pdf, acroread would open within firefox. However with dapper, the plugin doesn't seem to be working: when I browse to a .pdf in firefox, I am given the choice to open it with the default viewer.
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  I want to use Ubuntu's default theme, but not have it be brown..... (Ubuntu:  Linux for Blind People)
[12:03] <darich> question how do I get Beagle to index my windows partitions
[12:03] <sixtymhz> harfooz : lemmie try.
[12:03] <ompaul> jonuk, sata and ide?
[12:03] <NoobThatNeedsHel> no, i can't
[12:03] <NoobThatNeedsHel> wait
[12:03] <NoobThatNeedsHel> typo
[12:03] <jonuk> ompaul: IDE
[12:03] <outlawcrook> man if these files dont get smaller i wil not be able to get them all :(
[12:03] <Mynthon> Crimsun; Thanks for all your help!Thanks a million...Not so many people I know who could have helped me here in Oslo
[12:03] <harfooz> sixtymhz: in other words, acroread functions as expected on local files, but mozilla-acroread isn't working when I browse to a .pdf.
[12:03] <NoobThatNeedsHel> yes, i can ping ubuntulinux.org
[12:04] <crimsun> Mynthon: you'd be surprised, actually.
[12:04] <outlawcrook> i have direcway and will get hit with there fair acces policy
[12:04] <sixtymhz> harfooz : works for me.
[12:04] <paniq> can somebody paste his /etc/network/interfaces please?
[12:04] <sixtymhz> Works in Firefox.
[12:04] <harfooz> dang it.
[12:04] <Mynthon> Crimsun: Oh?
[12:04] <ompaul> jonuk, make sure you have themn set as master and slave and work from there
[12:04] <sixtymhz> Try reinstalling it
[12:04] <crimsun> Mynthon: quite a few Ubuntu users in Oslo, I'm sure.
[12:04] <NoobThatNeedsHel> soundray: i can ping that site
[12:04] <NoobThatNeedsHel> it works
[12:04] <harfooz> so acroread opens within (is "swallowed" in) Firefox?
[12:04] <soundray> NoobThatNeedsHel: I think the programs you mentioned open inbound ports on your machine. You may have to open them explicitly in your router config.
[12:05] <jonuk> ompaul: Yes, I have the jumper for the 40GB set as Master and the 250GB set as Slave
[12:05] <soundray> NoobThatNeedsHel: can you be a bit more patient please.
[12:05] <Mynthon> Crimsun: Probably:) But should I reboot?
[12:05] <harfooz> sixtymhz: was there any additional config that I should do?
[12:05] <NoobThatNeedsHel> yes, sry
[12:05] <jonuk> ompaul:  I want to leave the 40GB as is, and partition off part of the 250GB drive for Linux
[12:05] <ompaul> jonuk, no cable select, and make sure that the cd is master on ide 2 (assuming that it is on ide 2)
[12:05] <sixtymhz> harfooz : Not that I know of.  I just apt-get installed.
[12:05] <Nameless`> someone willing to explain a bit how chmod works? i cannot see teh logic into it :/
[12:05] <NoobThatNeedsHel> i will try opening inbound ports now, brb
[12:05] <namit> i will explain chmod
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[12:06] <XamDM> good n8
[12:06] <Nameless`> i fail to understand how it knows what user i try to give what specific rights to a dir for example
[12:06] <Abountu> how can I get and install  JRE 5
[12:06] <Abountu> ?
[12:06] <namit> why what is wrong wit it
[12:06] <sixtymhz> harfooz : sudo apt-get install mozilla-acroread --reinstall
[12:06] <soundray> !java
[12:06] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:06] <harfooz> hmmm....I wonder what I've missed.
[12:06] <P0ldy> bluefoxicy, Sorry about that.  What about 'Controls' in the Themes dialog.  It changes all colors, but you might not find a theme you like there.  Not sure how to roll your own, but there's always gnome-look.org
[12:06] <namit> well chmod os linked in with also the owner and group
[12:06] <namit> do you uderstand the 755?
[12:07] <i_like_my_bike> i have sony vaio with a docking station with dvd and floopy how do i mount them?
[12:07] <crimsun> mythica: no need.
[12:07] <crimsun> mythica: err, sorry.
[12:07] <Nameless`> means owner rwe / group re and public re
[12:07] <mythica> i got it working :)
[12:07] <Nameless`> but how does it know which is the owner?
[12:07] <mythica> used xawtv -c /dev/video1
[12:07] <soundray> mythica: glad it worked
[12:07] <Nameless`> and it is possible to have multiple owners?
[12:08] <namit> no just goups
[12:08] <harfooz> sixtymhz: here's what I'm seeing -- http://penguinsolutions.org/screenshots/Screenshot.png
[12:08] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  thanks, you don't know what I'm after though.  I know someone who edits a configuration file that changes only the colors of the controls, while you use the exact same theme.  He's not around though... heh.
[12:08] <marcie> Hi...another driver question. I have a tape drive for backup...i checked the Wiki but there is nothing on them
[12:09] <Nameless`> namit but suppose i got User A of Group A and user B of Group B and i want them both to be capable to alter a directory/file
[12:09] <marcie> Or i'm putting in the wrong key words
[12:09] <Nameless`> thats not possible?
[12:09] <P0ldy> bluefoxicy, Yeah, I was searching around in ~ for specific conf files for it, but came up short.  I'm still new to it meself.
[12:09] <ompaul> marcie, check out the command tar
[12:09] <namit> add user A and user B to same group
[12:09] <mythica> soundray, yeah thanks fella
[12:09] <kbrooks> kevin_:
[12:09] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  alright, thanks though.  I'll keep looking.
[12:09] <marcie> ompaul: in the wiki?
[12:10] <Nameless`> its possible to have users to be part of multiple groups?
[12:10] <P0ldy> bluefoxicy, hope you find it, I'm interested in that too
[12:10] <kbrooks> kevin_: don't say to the channel to not bother "trying" EU
[12:10] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  nods.
[12:10] <namit> why can you not add yourself to another goup?
[12:10] <marcie> Thanks again
[12:10] <slackern> Nameeater: yes
[12:10] <Nameless`> i fail to see logic as i'm more used todo user permissions via w2k
[12:10] <slackern> sorry Nameless`
[12:10] <brokengun> if i modify a config file or something do i have to restart for the changes to happen?
[12:10] <Nameless`> hmmm i see
[12:10] <kevin_> kbrooks, why? what if other people have the same problem? They won't know what's wrong.
[12:11] <ompaul> marcie, on the command line more so, >>man tar<< or get a "tape faq" if there is one on the wiki (don't know or out of mr google) the tar command stands for tape archive
[12:11] <namit> *group
[12:11] <namit> yes it is
[12:11] <namit> look at `id group`
[12:11] <slackern> Nameless`: just try typing groups in a termnial with your user and you see which groups you are a member of.
[12:11] <Nameless`> hmm
[12:11] <slackern> Nameless`: that might show you the logic :)
[12:11] <sixtymhz> harfooz : Check PM
[12:11] <Nameless`> thats cool
[12:11] <graveson> is there a howto on keyboard shortcuts etc out there
[12:11] <iNiku> Nameless`: the way it works is that each directory or file can have three sets of permissions. one for the owner (of which there can only be one), one for the group (of whic hthere can also only be one) and one for all the others. you set the owner and group with chown and the permissions with chmod, but you knew that
[12:11] <Nameless`> thats going to be a messy thing :P
[12:12] <iNiku> the important thing to realize is that a user can be a member in several groups
[12:12] <harfooz> sixtymhz: what's PM?
[12:12] <harfooz> permissions?
[12:12] <NoobThatNeedsHel> soundray: how do i make this change with my router?
[12:12] <Nameless`> oki getting wiser now :P
[12:12] <iNiku> so for your case with users A and B, add both users to group C, make the directory group C and make the permissions 775
[12:12] <kbrooks> kevin_: because !automati says its unsafe, and by announcing that people shouldn't try EU just because "EU's repos" have been down, it leaves people with almost nothing
[12:12] <Nameless`> ok /me is going to test stuff :D
[12:12] <kbrooks> !automatix*
[12:12] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks
[12:13] <sixtymhz> harfooz : did you do 'sudo apt-get install acroread' ?
[12:13] <harfooz> yeah -- I did it first.
[12:13] <JoshRA> why is DVD playback slow?
[12:13] <JoshRA> Lagged etc
[12:13] <kevin_> !automatix
[12:13] <hyphenated> JoshRA: because your DMA settings are wrong?
[12:13] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[12:13] <sixtymhz> harfooz : did you do anything else afterwards?
[12:13] <kevin_> !automatix*
[12:13] <ubotu> kevin_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:13] <harfooz> apt-get install acroread-plugins
[12:13] <ompaul> kbrooks, kevin_ please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic this channel is far to busy for that
[12:13] <i_like_my_bike> How Do I mount a docking stations drives?
[12:13] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell JoshRA about DMA
[12:13] <kbrooks> kevin_: i was correcting myself
[12:13] <JoshRA> hyphenated: I have set it like the guide says, but still slow
[12:14] <slackern> JoshRA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28RestrictedFormats%29#head-389f8b000408629ef4fbb99723cfe0133fe31e7e
[12:14] <hyphenated> JoshRA: the guide that ubotu just told you to read a bit on?
[12:14] <sixtymhz> harfooz : I didnt install those.  I just did acroread and mozilla-acroread
[12:14] <harfooz> let me try removing acroread-plugins
[12:14] <sixtymhz> harfooz : try removing them and try again.
[12:14] <Nameless`> ok going to play a bit with this chown/chmod stuff :P
[12:14] <AlohaWolf> anyone else having a problem with sound being broken in dapper?
[12:14] <JoshRA> `It is the same thing but I got the link from the RestrictedFormats page
[12:14] <hyphenated> AlohaWolf: #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <AlohaWolf> I just saw that
[12:15] <paniq> hey everyone, is there a repository for pyxpcom debian/ubuntu builds?
[12:15] <sixtymhz> harfooz : I would do a 'sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread --reinstall' after removing
[12:15] <hyphenated> JoshRA: ok, can you run 'hdparm /dev/hdc' in a shell and put the output in a pastebin?
[12:15] <harfooz> sixtymhz: trying right now.
[12:16] <harfooz> same exact behavior.
[12:16] <sixtymhz> harfooz : good luck
[12:16] <JoshRA> I will when I get ubuntu back up and running, I have since installed a differnt distro which had no problem, I am redownloading the ISO to reinstall
[12:16] <Snow_Shelter> does anyone know how I can get OpenGL rendering (by hardware) working in my 32-bit chroot? It works in the host OS.
[12:16] <harfooz> I restarted ff also.
[12:16] <i_like_my_bike> How Do I mount a docking stations drives?
[12:16] <sixtymhz> harfooz : you do the reinstall?
[12:16] <harfooz> yeah
[12:16] <JoshRA> I was asking so I can have something tp print to try to fix it hyphenated
[12:16] <harfooz> # apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread --reinstall
[12:17] <Nameless`> hmmm tnx a lot peeps. i seem to get more stuff done now with this user stuff :P
[12:17] <harfooz> sixtymhz: would mind to run this dpkg -L mozilla-acroread | grep nppdf
[12:17] <kevin_> !automatix
[12:17] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[12:18] <hyphenated> JoshRA: well, I can't recommend any pages to print until it's clear what the problem is (on a technical level)
[12:18] <JoshRA> I will do the RMA crap when it is installed
[12:18] <JoshRA> and see if you are online then, How long will you be on?
[12:19] <sixtymhz> harfooz : Okay. Then what do you want to know?
[12:20] <harfooz> do you see the plugin in the path /usr/lib/firefox/plugins?
[12:20] <robinsw> I didn't get a 'harumph' from that guy.
[12:20] <sixtymhz> no
[12:20] <harfooz> I'm not seeing it there.
[12:20] <robinsw> Hi, guys
[12:20] <sixtymhz> Should need it
[12:20] <sixtymhz> shoudlnt
[12:20] <harfooz> however, when I cd to that directory, it's there.
[12:20] <robinsw> Any idea how I can play xVID files using Totem or Mplayer?
[12:20] <sixtymhz> I got /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/nppdf.so
[12:20] <hyphenated> JoshRA: I'll be here a while
[12:21] <sixtymhz> and in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so
[12:21] <harfooz> me too
[12:21] <sixtymhz> I have 5 places
[12:21] <sixtymhz> try reinstall firefox
[12:21] <sixtymhz> *shrugs*
[12:21] <sixtymhz> im stumped
[12:21] <harfooz> me too.
[12:21] <sixtymhz> Sorry bro.
[12:21] <sixtymhz> ='[
[12:21] <harfooz> time for a break -- thanks for the help.
[12:21] <robinsw> Any idea how I can play xVID files using Totem or Mplayer, guys?
[12:22] <harfooz> It's helpful to know that at least it's supposed to work ;-)
[12:22] <slackern> robinsw: have you read about restrictedformats in the wiki?
[12:22] <P0ldy> robinsw, have you installed ffdshow ?
[12:22] <robinsw> Um...
[12:22] <robinsw> No! :)
[12:23] <robinsw> Ffdshow, yes?
[12:23] <slackern> !RestrictedFormats
[12:23] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:26] <robinsw> What's the easiest way to install ffdshow?
[12:26] <Malin> hmm
[12:27] <Malin> sudo apt-get install ffdshow?
[12:27] <robinsw> Cheers
[12:28] <liran_> any ideas anyone what are the implications of installing the linux-686-smp package? im currently runing 2.6.15-22-386 with fglrx (as xorg-driver-fglrx)
[12:28] <bhundven> afaik, that's the way to install any package ;)
[12:28] <robinsw> ffdshow doesn't exist. :-S
[12:28] <sixtymhz> harfooz : Looks in firefox preferences and then Downloads.  Look in the View & Edit Actions part.
[12:28] <bhundven> robinsw: apt-cache search ffdshow
[12:30] <robinsw> bhundven, that returns nothing.
[12:30] <robinsw> Just takes me back to the prompt.
[12:30] <ToHellWithGA> how do i open .wmv porn files in linux?
[12:30] <bhundven> robinsw: then there isn't a package. You should look around.
[12:30] <robinsw> Fuck that.
[12:30] <P0ldy> heh
[12:31] <JoshRA> err LOL, very forward
[12:31] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell ToHellWithGA about RestrictedFormats
[12:31] <ToHellWithGA> that's been the hardest part of my transition
[12:31] <Toran> 'hardest'. Yeah, i bet you were hard.
[12:31] <JoshRA> I bet
[12:31] <Toran> Woops. I mean, it was hard.
[12:31] <bhundven> hehe
[12:31] <Drac|Mac> gnome-panel suddenly won't let me resize it to anything smaller than 25 pixels in height! What happened? I need it to be 22!
[12:31] <Drac|Mac> Oh..
[12:31] <Drac|Mac> It just changed. Weird.
[12:31] <P0ldy> shit happens.
[12:32] <hyphenated> ToHellWithGA: they're 'restricted' because of the format (wmv) not because of the content ;-)
[12:32] <ToHellWithGA> thanks hyphenated
[12:32] <ToHellWithGA> yeah i totally understand
[12:32] <ToHellWithGA> i used that page to setup mp3 and flash and java
[12:32] <ToHellWithGA> just didn't think of video codecs at the time
[12:33] <ToHellWithGA> but i've been using linux for almost a week and it's becoming unbearable having no access to my good old .wmv porn
[12:33] <hyphenated> I'd probably have got video formats working first.
[12:33] <ironuckles> ubotu : when is dapper coming out?
[12:33] <ubotu> ironuckles: I think you lost me on that one
[12:33] <P0ldy> june 1
[12:33] <hyphenated> I have an ipod to play mp3s anyway, and I barely care for flash and java
[12:34] <ToHellWithGA> out of curiousity, if i were to upgrade to dapper would i have to come anew with all of my software?
[12:34] <MystaMax> hello, i just reinstalled Ubuntu, and I'm looking to make sure I install the right SMP 686 kernel, I have a Intel Xeon 2.8 Dual processor, last time i tried, the computer would lock up soon after logging in w/ gnome
[12:34] <gnosticapex> Nickrud
[12:34] <hyphenated> 'anew'? you probably wouldn't have to learn many new software programs. it'll mostly be more recent versions rather than different default applications
[12:34] <giacus> hello
[12:35] <Snow_Shelter> anyone know how to get OpenGL rendering working in a chroot?
[12:35] <ToHellWithGA> hyphenated: a mean reinstall the software.  i've been doing ./configure, make, make install from source to get newest versions anyway :)
[12:35] <ToHellWithGA> *i mean
[12:35] <hyphenated> ToHellWithGA: you can use the package manager to update things.. it's a 'cleaner' way than managing all your installs from source packages
[12:36] <giacus> can't get xorg running, is the ATI Mobility Radeon X200M supported , or should I install some driver ?
[12:36] <ToHellWithGA> i'm asking if reinstalling the OS would wipe the drive and start from scratch
[12:36] <ToHellWithGA> or if it would be an upgrade more than a clean slate thing
[12:36] <hyphenated> ToHellWithGA: no, you'll have the choice of 'install' or 'upgrade'
[12:36] <P0ldy> ToHellWithGA, yes if you reinstall the OS on the same partition it would be from scratch
[12:37] <ToHellWithGA> lol @ dissention in the ranks
[12:37] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell giacus about ati
[12:38] <teknoprep> i have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk
[12:38] <hyphenated> giacus: read what ubotu told you. my X300 Mobility works fine in breezy
[12:38] <soundray> Is it possible to disable IPv6 entirely?
[12:38] <digisus> ToHellWithGA, hyphenated, P0ldy: So I can take the Dapper CD, choose upgrade in the process and it will upgrade my breezy and leave intact all config files? That's what you are saying?
[12:39] <hyphenated> digisus: that's what it's supposed to do.
[12:39] <P0ldy> Or one could just dist-upgrade.  A CD seems superfluous
[12:40] <bhundven> word. I did just that this morning.
[12:40] <teknoprep> anyone on my HDD issue?
[12:40] <digisus> hyphenated: excellent. And do I have to expect problems with apps I installed on top of the standard apps? Are they automagically upgrade through synaptic?
[12:41] <digisus> ... upgrade through synaptic/apt-get as well?
[12:41] <hyphenated> I plan to reinstall from scratch with the dapper release, because I haven't done so for a few releases. Other times, I've just replaced 'hoary' with 'breezy' in /etc/apt/sources.list and update + dist-upgrade to do a complete upgrade
[12:41] <digisus> upgrade-d! (damn)
[12:41] <Nameless`> sudo apt-get update stuff
[12:41] <Nameless`> donish :P
[12:42] <digisus> hyphenated: cool, that sounds encouraging. :-)
[12:42] <soundray> Is there some central configuration item where I can disable IPv6 stuff?
[12:42] <MystaMax> anyone can point me in the right direction?
[12:42] <hyphenated> soundray: no idea, I've never tried to disable it
[12:42] <Sanne> digisus, if you installed software from unofficial repositories, you might get problems, though.
[12:43] <hyphenated> MystaMax: is it already choosing the wrong one for you, or what?
[12:43] <P0ldy> soundray, you can  edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases to do it.  See here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172866
[12:43] <bhundven> soundray: you have to disable it in the modprobe.conf (which is done by means of /etc/modutils/aliases)
[12:43] <MystaMax> hypehnated: i dont understand ur question clearly... sorry
[12:43] <bhundven> ah P0ldy got it right.
[12:43] <digisus> Sanne: ah ah... Hm, to be honest it is difficult to keep track of every small app one installs... Do you have an idea of how I could extract a list of the stuff I installed manually on breezy?
[12:44] <hyphenated> MystaMax: you said before it was using the wrong kernel, now you've reinstalled. is it still using the wrong one or not?
[12:44] <soundray> Thanks P0ldy and bhundven!
[12:44] <P0ldy> soundray, np
[12:44] <mournahan> need help with lexmark printer? google searched and didnt find much help! its a Z517 of the Z510 family of lexmark printers.
[12:44] <bhundven> no thanks to me. all to P0ldy
[12:45] <Rhine> Is there anyway I can write to my windows drive i dont care if i break it if i cant fix it this way then i reformay anyways
[12:45] <bhundven> echo "thanks" 2&>1 /dev/P0ldy
[12:45] <Sanne> digisus, not really. I'm using Synaptic because it logs every install, and if I compile stuff myself, I always put it into /usr/local. Other than that, I would keep notes.
[12:45] <P0ldy> bhundven, lol
[12:45] <bhundven> :-D
[12:45] <soundray> echo Thanks | tee -a /dev/P0ldy >/dev/bhundven
[12:45] <P0ldy> Rhine, if you don't care, ntfs captive (?) is supposed to do it shakily.  If you don't care, worth a try.  check sourceforge
[12:46] <giacus> hyphenated: thanks
[12:46] <Rhine> Ok thank you
[12:46] <digisus> Sanne: Keeping notes? You mean like.. pen and paper? LOL thought a computer is keeping notes for me! LOL
[12:46] <MystaMax> hyphenated: hold on let me check to see which i loaded
[12:47] <P0ldy> Rhine, actually I guess sourceforge isn't hosting it, but there's even a howto in ubuntu forums.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive
[12:47] <kuitang> try checkinstall
[12:47] <kuitang> works well on slackware; also makes deb packagse
[12:48] <ahmad> What is metacity?
[12:48] <digisus> Sanne: Thanks for the hint in any case.
[12:48] <teknoprep> someone say ---> tek
[12:48] <hiddnx> hi ppl
[12:48] <Sanne> digisus, heh :) Actually, I do that pen and paper stuff sometimes. If you install manually, how should your system know? Did you install much software from unofficial sources or compiled it yourself?
[12:48] <ahmad> !tek
[12:48] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ahmad
[12:49] <teknoprep> nice
[12:49] <ahmad> lol
[12:49] <ahmad> <3
[12:49] <amac> does turboprint no longer work correctly in dapper?
[12:49] <ahmad> What is metacity?
[12:49] <amac> my printer spits out 3 pages and locks
[12:50] <bhundven> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacity
[12:50] <kuitang> with slackware, its easy 2 use checkinstall and manage source-compiled pkgs w/ official ones using standard tools
[12:50] <soundray> ahmad: a window manager. It draws borders and titlebars, manages fore- and background etc.
[12:50] <digisus> Sanne: Aaahhh... We might have a misunderstanding. I installed practically ALL throught synaptic. I thought with unofficial you meant one of the unsupported repositories. But perhaps I am wrong? (Oh, and I did not compile anything by myself. ubuntu is such a userfriendly piece, why should I? :-)
[12:51] <ahmad> soundray, : Where do i go to that program? Cuz i downloaded a theme for it
[12:52] <Sanne> digisus, no, I meant unofficial repositories as well as compiling yourself, although if you did everything through synaptic, that makes it easier, because you have logs. But anyway, unofficial repositories might get you problems when upgrading. Just keep that in mind. Maybe you need to uninstall some programs before you can proceed.
[12:52] <soundray> ahmad: configure gnome/metacity themes through System-Preferences-Themes
[12:53] <gholen> Anyone knows how good support there is for D-Links DWL-G510 PCI cards in linux?
[12:53] <Cars_Suck> how do i mount a docking stations drives? DVD and FLOPPY
[12:54] <digisus> Sanne: I see. I am wondering what takes more time: make a backup of everything, wipe the HD and install Dapper from scratch and then muddle through the configuration again. Or... start muddling through right away. ;-)
[12:54] <P0ldy> Cars_Suck, are they not in your /etc/fstab ?
[12:55] <Sanne> digisus, if you're prepared to start from scratch anyway, why not try upgrading first and see how far it goes? But I would backup important stuff in any case, at least you config files in your home dir and perhaps /etc also.
[12:56] <digisus> Sanne: Wonderful idea, I muddle through forth and back to double the transition time ;-) Sorry for being sarcastic... *smile on the face*
[12:57] <digisus> Sanne, probbaly you are right. This way, I would have tried and experienced once how the upgrade process works.
[12:57] <Sanne> digisus, I'm sorry to not have the ultimate answer ;), but mixing repositories should be done with care. If you didn't know that, you do now ;).
[12:58] <Sanne> digisus, exactly
[12:58] <digisus> sanne, i heard about the dark places of repositories but Dapper was far you know... ;-)
[12:58] <Sanne> digisus, hehe :)
[12:59] <outlawcrook> so once i get all the files downloaded for my nvidia card what would be next
[12:59] <outlawcrook> or just shut down and put card in
[01:00] <Sanne> digisus, I'm not sure, but there may be some apt or dpkg wizardry to show which package came from which repository. But somebody more advanced in this magic would have to answer that ;)
[01:00] <pyrotic> I am trying to play wolfenstein: enemy territory and have been for a few days now, but I've been sorting through errors and trying to get it to work, the error I am on now, is this.. 'cannot write to hunkusage.dat' when I join a server, OR, it won't download the packs...any ideas?
[01:01] <Rhine> Can someone help me with the second step of this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive
[01:01] <ETronik> hi all, can somebody help me with a small  nagging problem with Samba ?
[01:01] <digisus> sanne, thanks. Gotta leave. was nice chatting, and many thanks for your tips. -- To all other listeners coding on ubunut: You guys rock! Thanks for providing such an excellent piece of free software! bye bye
[01:01] <pyrotic> sanne apt-get --help maybe?
[01:01] <digisus> tu!
[01:01] <Sanne> digisus, you're welcome, good luck
[01:01] <digisus> thx, bye.
[01:01] <crazy_penguin> Good night! // Jo ejt!
[01:02] <pyrotic> Waves*
[01:03] <ETronik> Hi all, I have a printer shared from Linux, but access to it from Windows keeps asking for  login , how can I automate/avoid this login popup ?
[01:03] <pyrotic> guessing nobody is in the smarts of WolfET...
[01:03] <Sanne> pyrotic, yeah, that helps mostly, or man apt. I thought pyrotic should know about those commands, so I didn't mention those. I'm sure he/she will be back if not ;)
[01:03] <cmarker> hello, I am having a problem trying to add snes9x to breezy, could I please get some help?
[01:04] <reign> Hello, I'm having trouble with Nvidia GLX and a custom kernel. After compiling my kernel, rebooting,  and installing the nvidia kernel package everything works fine until I reboot. That's when X refuses to load with GLX enabled ... this is happening on two kubuntu machines running nvidia
[01:05] <PS> hi, sorry this is off-topic, but i have a bash scripting q: if i am executing a bash script how can that script tell which directory it's in?
[01:05] <Sanne> pyrotic, about ET: it sounds like it wants to write files somewhere but can't, maybe a permission problem? I had ET working in my Debian time and there was a dir under home for that where packs got downloaded to.
[01:05] <pyrotic> Sanne do you have a link anywhere that I could look up to have it explain to me what needs to be done?
[01:05] <pyrotic> !tell reign about nvidia
[01:06] <hiddnx> i have problem with dual boot: (hd0,0) : XP, (hd0,1): freezy breezer
[01:06] <cmarker> I am trying to use Synaptic to find the snes9x package but when I search for snes it finds no packages, I have already added all the repositories.  Why can I not find the package?
[01:06] <Sanne> pyrotic, not really, because it worked for me from the start. *Do* you have a dorectory like .etwolf (or so) in your home directory?
[01:07] <reign> pyrotic: I've tried just about everything in there other than renderaccel false, but won't that disable accelerated graphics?
[01:07] <CanadianSnow> i need help getting my soundcard detected
[01:07] <hiddnx> can anyone help with grub modifying?
[01:07] <CanadianSnow> its from an old ibm 300GL
[01:07] <pyrotic> reign I have an nvidia card, and it works fine and I used those instructions.
[01:08] <pyrotic> Sanne hmm.. no I don't
[01:08] <reign> I'm using the .run package from nvidia's site, since I'm using a custom kernel I can't use the precompiled versions. If I reboot and install the driver again everything works fine, but I don't wnat to have to install the driver every tiem
[01:08] <kuitang> cmarker, go to http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=snes&searchon=names&subword=1&version=stable&release=all
[01:08] <Sanne> cmarker, you can also try to find it at packages.ubuntu.com
[01:08] <Sanne> pyrotic, that may be the problem. How did you install ET?
[01:08] <outlawcrook> cool
[01:08] <CanadianSnow> can anyone help me wit that plz?
[01:08] <Chris_Tucker> whats the most common command line partitioner?
[01:09] <outlawcrook> i just pluged in my usb scanner and it found iot no prob..and is running
[01:09] <outlawcrook> LOL
[01:09] <outlawcrook> nice
[01:09] <pyrotic> Sanne had a .run file downloaded, I installed it, and updated it to 2.60, it runs fine, but just won't join the servers due to that error.
[01:09] <pyrotic> !sound
[01:09] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:09] <pyrotic> !tell canadiansnow about sound
[01:09] <kuitang> Chris_Tucker, probably fdisk and its variants
[01:10] <kuitang> the best one is parted, though
[01:10] <CanadianSnow> that doesn't help but thx
[01:10] <Sanne> pyrotic, sounds just like what I did. I'm trying to remember if it created the .etwolf folder by itself or if I had to do something. I will search around in my archives if there's some notes, hang on a sec if you have time.
[01:10] <reign> pyrotic: any other ideas?
[01:10] <pyrotic> canadiansnow did you read it? or just look at it and see there is too much work involved...:)
[01:11] <pyrotic> reign not at the moment, stick around and ask the question every once ina w hile, maybe sombody more 'intellgent' may come around...
[01:11] <reign> Ok thanks a lot
[01:11] <pyrotic> Sanne I've got plenty of time.. :)
[01:11] <pyrotic> reign anytime, wish I could help more!
[01:12] <pyrotic> reign did you try using 'easyubuntu' ?
[01:12] <CanadianSnow> i've read it and done everything there
[01:12] <CanadianSnow> i dont know what the card is
[01:12] <reign> easybuntu? what's that?
[01:12] <pyrotic> !tell reign about easyubuntu
[01:13] <MystaMax> hyphenated: thanks for you assistance, i have to leave, i will have to pickup tomorrow... thanks again
[01:13] <marcie> question regarding upgrading thunderbird: i followed the instructions the program works but the link to applications doesn't...i've tried putting in the symbolic link in preferences but i'm stuck
[01:13] <marcie> (mind you it will run from command line at least)
[01:13] <teknoprep> i have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk
[01:13] <pyrotic> canadiansnow open your case and take the card out and look at it, and tell me what it is...(PS: Shut the machine off before removing the card...)
[01:13] <reign> pyrotic: thing is, I had to compile a custom kernel for SMP, plus I optimized the whole thing ... don't know if that will work
[01:13] <hiddNX> anyone knows how to boot ntfs xp from grub?
[01:13] <angelus> hello, anyone here uses eclipse?
[01:14] <pyrotic> reign if you compiled your custom kernel, don't you think you should have an idea how to get the videocard too? :P
[01:14] <PS> angelus: i do
[01:14] <reign> pyrotic: it's not that I don't know how to install it :P i'm having stupid problems with it
[01:14] <reign> I've done this a hundred times before
[01:14] <AngeluS> i'm using ctd and i would like to use auto-insert braces, etc
[01:14] <pyrotic> hiddNX probably just go into the BIOS and select your other harddrive ...if Grub doesn't detect it already...
[01:14] <pyrotic> reign Well I wish I could help further, but I'm not sure what to try...hmm
[01:15] <AngeluS> i can only use auto-inser-braces when creating .java files
[01:15] <CanadianSnow> pyrotic i cant do that
[01:15] <CanadianSnow> but... "i found information about his driver is ESS Allegro SB16"
[01:15] <reign> I'll keep looking around ... this has been driving me crazy for a while now :)
[01:15] <CanadianSnow> lol would that help at all
[01:15] <teknoprep> cheers for absolutly no help on crap
[01:15] <teknoprep> YAY
[01:15] <teknoprep> is everyone on IRC just dumber these days?
[01:15] <AngryElf> hey guys, i'm having a consistant problem with dvdrip/libdvdcss2 -- When I "read DVD contents" it only probes the first title on the disc and errors on the second one, then stops "Can't open the title 2 info file"
[01:15] <hiddNX> pyrotic: grub can't perform makeactive line while this
[01:15] <AngeluS> PS: can you help me?
[01:15] <PS> angelus: sorry, i only use it for java
[01:15] <AngryElf> this has been on 3 DVDs now.....and seems to work fine on DVDShrink DVDs
[01:15] <marcie> help with upgraded thunderbird?
[01:15] <pyrotic> hiddNX grub finds my NTFS XP PRO Drive just fine.. :)
[01:16] <pyrotic> reign Okay good luck!..
[01:16] <kuitang> AngryElf, try dmesg; u might find the error there
[01:16] <hiddNX> ? - i remember i did it before, but now i don't remember how to..
[01:16] <pyrotic> teknoprep whats your problem...?
[01:16] <teknoprep> hde: WDC WD360GD-00FLC0, ATA DISK drive
[01:16] <CanadianSnow> pyrotic?
[01:16] <teknoprep> i have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk
[01:16] <cmarker> kuitang, how do I install the deb packages from the website your refered me to
[01:17] <teknoprep> i have the other 2 as /dev/hde and /dev/hdg
[01:17] <teknoprep> they are both there
[01:17] <marcie> i think my symbolic link is the problem...
[01:17] <pyrotic> canadiansnow why can you not do that?
[01:17] <CanadianSnow> i dont know how to take it out
[01:17] <CanadianSnow> but aperently the driver is ESS Allegro SB16
[01:17] <Reon> teknoprep: are all the hd's formatted ?
[01:17] <CanadianSnow> but... i dont know what that means...
[01:17] <pyrotic> teknoprep hmm...(Reon) can probably help you more than I can.. :)
[01:18] <hiddNX> pyrotic: what is written in your menu.lst about it?
[01:18] <Reon> I'm just taking a wild guess here
[01:18] <teknoprep> Reon can't format it if i can't get to it
[01:18] <EruditeHermit> hey, does anyone know how to get the bcm43xx wireless to work? I got errors about firmware not loading so I installed bcm43xx-fwcutter and followed the instructions. Now the firmware seems to load but dmesg says ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[01:18] <teknoprep> fdisk -l /dev/hdk can't be done
[01:18] <teknoprep> becuase there is no /dev/hdk
[01:18] <teknoprep> hmm
[01:18] <pyrotic> canadiansnow ...unscrew the screw...and pull...look for the name of the card... push back in...put screw back in, close case... turn computer on.
[01:19] <KaosX> why dont you format it in a different slot just to make sure its formatted?
[01:19] <CanadianSnow> ESS Allegro SB16
[01:19] <marcie> canadian snow...is your computer an IBM
[01:19] <KaosX> then put it back
[01:19] <pyrotic> hiddNX It's on my other box, but, when grub loads it.. it reads it as.. "Windows XP NTFS on /dev/hda1"...if that helps...it should read it, maybe you have your jumpers set wrong.. ?
[01:19] <tank1500> Question: I can't seem to find any programs that stream shoutcast right.  Anyone know of a program?
[01:19] <teknoprep> hmm
[01:19] <teknoprep> i am lost lol
[01:19] <pyrotic> canadiansnow One second.
[01:19] <teknoprep> i have never seen this happen before
[01:20] <Reon> teknoprep: Is the drive detected at all when linux starts up. I know raid controllers ave their own bios where you can set stuff. have you looked in the cards bios. should be accessable when the pc boots up.
[01:20] <teknoprep> reon the server rocognized in dmesg and /var/messages the HDE HDG and HDK drives
[01:20] <marcie> my system won't recognize a lot of hardware...people seem to think it's because it's an IBM
[01:20] <cmarker> Sanne, how do I install the packages found on packages.ubuntu.org? can I get them to be listed in synaptic?
[01:20] <KaosX> do live cd's recognize the device...like the UBD?
[01:20] <teknoprep> reon yes
[01:20] <AngryElf> kuitang, dmesg has some ambiguous lines in there about it no errors per se
[01:20] <teknoprep> hdk: 72303840 sectors (37019 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(33)
[01:20] <NickGarvey> hdk?
[01:20] <NickGarvey> jeez
[01:21] <NickGarvey> thats a lot of hds
[01:21] <teknoprep> lol
[01:21] <NickGarvey> (or cd drives or whatever)
[01:21] <tank1500> And another problem is that I can't seem to get any programs to play mpg files
[01:21] <teknoprep> yeah HDD's
[01:21] <hiddNX> pyrotic: may be i have to change there (hd0,0) to (hd0,1) ?
[01:21] <teknoprep> its skipping some of the letters tho
[01:21] <Reon> teknoprep: if that is the case then you should be able to make it work. just dont ask me how :)
[01:21] <Sanne> cmarker, yes, if they are there, they are also in Synaptic. You need to have the respective repositories (universe, multiverse) enabled. Which it is in, you see on the website.
[01:21] <pyrotic> canadiansnow Open up Terminal, type 'lspci' hit enter, copy and paste that all, and go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste it, and give me the link
[01:21] <teknoprep> Reon LOL
[01:21] <hiddNX> pyrotic: it is installed on first hardrive alone
[01:22] <pyrotic> hiddNX Ok, so you have 2 harddrives on your computer, 1 with XP 1 with Ubuntu, correct?
[01:22] <teknoprep> does anyone know how to create a new /dev/hdk ?
[01:22] <teknoprep> is this possible?
[01:22] <Reon> teknoprep: Maybe post in the hardware forums with all the details files attached and someone might have an idea.
[01:22] <teknoprep> i thought they were auto created
[01:22] <hiddNX> pyrotic: yes
[01:22] <cmarker> sanne, I have added all the repositories and though snes9x shows up on the website under multiverse it is not showing up in synaptic
[01:22] <Chris_Tucker> whats the command to format as ext3?
[01:22] <hiddNX> pyrotic: sata onboard
[01:23] <kuitang> yes, u can make /dev/hdk, just make sure u know the appropriate major/minor #
[01:23] <NickGarvey> teknoprep: yeah I think they are assigned by where they are..
[01:23] <pyrotic> hiddNX Ok, and Grub loader only recognizes your Ubuntu drive, but doesn't see the XP drive, when loading?
[01:23] <teknoprep> hmm
[01:23] <AngryElf> what is /dev/hdk?
[01:23] <kuitang> they're in the kernel documentation if u hav it
[01:23] <teknoprep> hdk: 72303840 sectors (37019 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(33)
[01:23] <teknoprep> that is HDK
[01:23] <CanadianSnow> pyrotic, go to the pastebin and search "CanadianSnow" there are only like 4 there, one is lspci
[01:23] <teknoprep> but there is no /dev/hdk
[01:23] <teknoprep> why would a SATA HDD come up as UDMA(33) ?
[01:23] <eXistenZ> when will ShipIt be opened for dapper drake
[01:23] <pyrotic> canadiansnow so your telling someone that's going to help you, what to do, to help you? :)
[01:23] <NickGarvey> heh
[01:23] <Sanne> pyrotic, (nothing in my archives about ET but) I just read on a website about possible problems running ET involving the ownership of ~/.etwolf. Have a look: http://cs.unk.edu/~lowry/wiki/doku.php?id=ubuntu_enemy_territory_howto
[01:24] <Inazad> Can I have some help with ftp-ssl?
[01:24] <CanadianSnow> marcie canadian snow...is your computer an IBM   :  yes, and if u dont put a space i can see ur comment in red :)
[01:24] <hiddNX> pyrotic: it pints some error on line "makeactive"
[01:24] <Inazad> Can I have some help with ftp-ssl or something else...?
[01:24] <Chris_Tucker> whats the command to format as ext3?
[01:24] <hiddNX> prints
[01:24] <Sanne> cmarker, I will try it also, sec
[01:24] <Reon> teknoprep: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[01:24] <kuitang> teknoprep, wat kernel?
[01:24] <kuitang> for 2.6.16.16 (mine) hdk is: 57 block       Sixth IDE hard disk/CD-ROM interface
[01:24] <kuitang>                   0 = /dev/hdk          Master: whole disk (or CD-ROM)
[01:24] <kuitang>                  64 = /dev/hdl          Slave: whole disk (or CD-ROM)
[01:24] <pyrotic> hiddNX hmm...unusual...
[01:24] <CanadianSnow> im just telling u its already there
[01:24] <pyrotic> Sanne Ok THanks I'll have a look at that site!...
[01:24] <Syco54645> how can i make it so that my normal user can unmount my cdroms?
[01:25] <pyrotic> canadiansnow..k. one sec please.
[01:25] <kuitang> something liek this: /dev/hdc        /mnt/cdrom      iso9660 ro,user,noauto          0 0
[01:25] <CanadianSnow> its not hard to find is all im saying, otherwise i'd like re-paste it
[01:25] <CanadianSnow> thx
[01:25] <teknoprep> OK
[01:25] <kuitang> in fstab, of course
[01:25] <Sanne> cmarker, if I search for snes9x at packages.ubuntu.com for Breezy, I get 4 packages. Is the package you want to install among those?
[01:25] <teknoprep> sorry for this paste but here it goes
[01:25] <teknoprep>  *-disk
[01:25] <hiddNX> pyrotic: i have to do it again, to see the error...
[01:25] <teknoprep>        product: WDC WD360GD-00FLC0
[01:25] <teknoprep>        vendor: Western Digital
[01:25] <teknoprep>        physical id: 0
[01:25] <teknoprep>        bus info: ide@5.0
[01:25] <teknoprep>        logical name: /dev/hdk
[01:25] <kuitang> oh wait; ubuntu uses /media, not /mnt
[01:25] <teknoprep> ITS F**King /dev/hdk wtf
[01:26] <CanadianSnow> lol
[01:26] <pyrotic> !tell teknoprep about pastebin
[01:26] <CanadianSnow> gj teknoprep
[01:26] <tank1500> Syco, you try using the "sudo" command?
[01:26] <cmarker> sanne, yes, all 4 I really need
[01:26] <teknoprep> i know about pastebin
[01:26] <teknoprep> ty
[01:26] <kuitang> teknoprep, is it SATA?
[01:26] <pyrotic> canadiansnow I dunno what to tell you, sorry.
[01:26] <teknoprep> YES
[01:26] <Syco54645> kuitang: i have that and it still will not allow me
[01:26] <soundray> Syco54645: if you set CDs to auto-mount in System-Preferences-Removable..., your users can unmount CDs in nautilus with right-click and Eject.
[01:26] <pyrotic> teknoprep I appologize, didn't see the 'sorry' up there.
[01:27] <Syco54645> soundray: what if i want to use the terminal?
[01:27] <CanadianSnow> what about how/where to find drivers for a "ESS Allegre SB16" ?
[01:27] <Samuli^> hiddNX, what HDD has the windows installed?
[01:27] <pyrotic> hiddNX I wish I could help you further... can you even boot to the XP drive through BIOS an selecting the other hdd ?
[01:27] <Reon> teknoprep: sudo fdisk /dev/hdk
[01:27] <CanadianSnow> caz i have no clue, but aperently i have to install drivers for my soundcard???
[01:27] <hiddNX> pyrotic: yes i can
[01:27] <teknoprep> Unable to open /dev/hdk
[01:27] <tank1500> Syco, I believe you have to put "sudo" before whatever you want to do with root powers
[01:27] <Sanne> cmarker, I can see all of them in my Synaptic. Are you also on Breezy, and do you have the multiverse repository enables?
[01:27] <Reon> teknoprep: My sata drives are seen as /dev/sda
[01:27] <AngryElf> alright, it's got to be a problem with libdvdcss2 (1.2.9) cause now i can't even watch DVDs
[01:27] <soundray> Syco54645: then you're going to have to sudo. Make sure all windows are closed and all shells cd'ed away from the CD filesystem.
[01:27] <teknoprep> well not mine
[01:27] <pyrotic> hiddNX hm.. did you install Ubuntu after you installed XP or Xp after ubuntu?
[01:28] <cmarker> sanne, I am using breezy and I enabled all the repositories
[01:28] <slackern> teknoprep: what sata controller is it on?
[01:28] <hiddNX> Samuli^: i have two sata drives wdc160, first is xp
[01:28] <AngryElf> !libdvdcss2
[01:28] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:28] <teknoprep> RocketRaid
[01:28] <Reon> teknoprep: They should be seen as sdx unless it has something to do with the rai controller.
[01:28] <Syco54645> soundray: i know how to do that, it just complains about my fstab.
[01:28] <pyrotic> hiddNX sorry I couldn't help you, I must go now.. I have my own problems to fix.. :)
[01:28] <CanadianSnow> pyrotic could u tell me how/where to find drivers for a "ESS Allegre SB16" ?
[01:28] <Samuli^> hiddNX, o-kay. So that's not the problem.
[01:28] <hiddNX> pyrotic: ubuntu after xp
[01:28] <teknoprep> the raid controller is a rocketraid PCI card
[01:28] <teknoprep> brb
[01:28] <kuitang> or u can just use mplayer
[01:28] <soundray> Syco54645: what does it say?
[01:28] <Reon> teknoprep: did ya try fdisk
[01:29] <pyrotic> !tell canadiansnow about sound
[01:29] <pyrotic> !canadiansnow right there :P
[01:29] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pyrotic
[01:29] <Sanne> cmarker, just to be sure, if you want, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so I can have a look, ok?
[01:29] <nullified> !java
[01:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:29] <tank1500> Syco... you just type "sudo" no quotes and then command
[01:29] <CanadianSnow> ...ok
[01:29] <hiddNX> Samuli^: what to do?
[01:29] <nullified> !javadebs
[01:29] <Syco54645> tank1500: i dont want to have to do that or type in my password
[01:29] <pyrotic> Auf Wiedersehn!~
[01:29] <kuitang> Syco54645: everybody needs access to cdrom device as well as the fstab entry.  A lazy way would be chown root:users hdc
[01:30] <XpCrash> is there a package or update for one of the video players for ubuntu , that has support for wmv 's
[01:30] <kuitang> mpalyer
[01:30] <kuitang> mplayer*
[01:30] <Syco54645> soundray: it isnt doing it now that i ask... it just did it yesterday
[01:30] <Samuli^> hiddNX,  It might help if you pasted your menu.lst for us to see.
[01:30] <Syco54645> oh well
[01:30] <cmarker> sanne, posting now, give me a sec please
[01:30] <Syco54645> thanks for all the help
[01:30] <teknoprep> Reon yes
[01:30] <teknoprep> Reon Unable to open /dev/hdk
[01:30] <kuitang> not sure if ubuntu support; you'll probably hav 2 compile from source 2 get all functionality
[01:30] <Syco54645> kuitang: i realize that i could do that, but it can be done via the fstab
[01:30] <hiddNX> Samuli^: here?
[01:30] <teknoprep> reon its a RocketRAID 1640 from HightPoint
[01:30] <Syco54645> well i am going to play some mame with my new arcade controller that i just built
[01:30] <Syco54645> so have fun
[01:30] <kuitang> teknoprep, r u sure u hav ur sata drivers?
[01:30] <Samuli^> hiddNX, to pastebin.
[01:31] <teknoprep> kuitang ?
[01:31] <XpCrash> mplayer doesnt play it
[01:31] <teknoprep> kuitang i got 2 of them working... so yes
[01:31] <Reon> teknoprep: I give up, what happens if you connect it to a different port on the raid card ?
[01:31] <teknoprep> kuitang they show up in dmesg
[01:31] <hiddNX> Samuli^: where is this place?
[01:31] <cmarker> sanne, ok, its posted
[01:31] <teknoprep> Reon i have to turn it off for that ... can't do that right now
[01:31] <pyrotic> sanne what was that link again? I lost it :|
[01:31] <Samuli^> !tell hiddNX about pastebin
[01:31] <kuitang> teknoprep, go to ur dev directory
[01:31] <Sanne> cmarker, paste the url here, please
[01:31] <teknoprep> kuitang yeah ok what?
[01:31] <kuitang> paste the ls entry for hdk
[01:31] <tank1500> Any ideas as to what program I should use that can play *.mpg files?
[01:31] <cmarker> sanne, ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14102
[01:31] <NickGarvey> tank1500: mplayer works
[01:31] <cmarker> sanne, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14102
[01:32] <Sanne> pyrotic, ah, good you're back. Are you german? The link was http://cs.unk.edu/~lowry/wiki/doku.php?id=ubuntu_enemy_territory_howto
[01:32] <NickGarvey> tank1500: what I use, theres loads of them though ;)
[01:32] <Khaaaaan> hey guys... how come I cannot remove Firefox without removing epiphany?
[01:32] <Khaaaaan> Are the two related?
[01:32] <teknoprep> kuitang ?
[01:32] <XpCrash> tank , you have to download the w32 codecs
[01:32] <pyrotic> Sanne Yes I am German, but I do not know very much German :P
[01:32] <NickGarvey> Khaaaaan: well they are both gecko based..
[01:32] <NickGarvey> not sure if that has anything to do with anything
[01:32] <tank1500> I need w32 codecs?
[01:32] <XpCrash> but for some reason it doesnt have support with wmv files
[01:32] <pyrotic> Sanne THank you for the link by the way :)
[01:32] <NickGarvey> tank1500: I believe so..
[01:32] <kuitang> get them from mplayerhq.hu
[01:32] <pyrotic> Sanne why do you ask? (german)
[01:32] <tank1500> package manage have those?
[01:32] <Khaaaaan> But shouldnt I be able to just have epiphany??
[01:32] <XpCrash> hold on
[01:33] <kuitang> from MPLAYERhq.hu
[01:33] <Samuli^> !tell tank1500 about restricted formats
[01:33] <kuitang> who cares about restricted
[01:33] <Sanne> pyrotic, ah. In case you would understand german, I would recommend *the* german linux gaming site http://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de, maybe there are some tutorials on ET.
[01:33] <teknoprep> oh i believe the reason this comes up as IDE is becuase its backwards compatible with IDE...
[01:33] <kuitang> mplayerhq.hu has all ur windowz codecs
[01:33] <hiddNX> Samuli^: i think i found the error... this is mine
[01:33] <Samuli^> tank1500, see the url ubotu told you how to install w32codecs and more.
[01:33] <Sanne> cmarker, looking...
[01:33] <pyrotic> Sanne Ahh.. I could translate most of it.. but I'm from the States.. :P thanks anyway!..
[01:34] <XpCrash> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%s , think you can search here
[01:34] <Sanne> pyrotic, good luck :)
[01:34] <tank1500> kuitang: where do I get that?
[01:34] <XpCrash> or just goto the buntu homepage and search it
[01:34] <hiddNX> Samuli^: just marked windows hd0,0, while is an ubuntu partition... sorry, i've first to try it right
[01:34] <Reon> teknoprep: cd /dev     ls -l hdk
[01:34] <teknoprep> Reon NOTHING
[01:34] <bjpatrick> anyone playing WoW on the ubuntu box?
[01:34] <pyrotic> Sanne thanks I'll need it :)
[01:34] <kuitang> go to www.mplayerhq.hu
[01:34] <teknoprep> Reon sorry for caps
[01:35] <NickGarvey> hiddNX: you can try many without booting ubuntu and editing your boot.lst file
[01:35] <pyrotic> Auf Weidersehn!
[01:35] <Samuli^> hiddNX, so you have windows on the second HD?
[01:35] <Sanne> cmarker, you don't have multiverse enabled for breezy, only for breezy-backports, if I look correctly.
[01:35] <NickGarvey> hiddNX: if you hit e and then edit the line you can edit it temperarly and boot like that, very good for troubleshooting
[01:35] <teknoprep> you know what it shows up with 3 hdd's on the older kernel
[01:35] <teknoprep> 2.4
[01:35] <tank1500> sorry kuitang, didn't know that was a site...
[01:36] <Reon> teknoprep: sudo lshw -C disk
[01:36] <hiddNX> Samuli^: yes, is this remains after booting the edited line?
[01:36] <Khaaaaan> Sooooo why can't I have just epiphany as a browser?
[01:36] <cmarker> sanne, I am sorry, what would I have to do to enable that? I followed the faq on how to add repositories but I guess that did not add the multiverse
[01:36] <Bobakitoo> is d-link dwl-g510 a good wireless card for linux? it use  module wlan, wlan_wep, ath_pci, ath_rate_sample witch are marked experimental
[01:36] <teknoprep> Reon that is my post above
[01:36] <Nullified> guys, I have a problem with java under ubuntu, Java's website shows that im using the latest version, however when i type java -version it shows a old version, any one know how i can solve this?
[01:36] <teknoprep> Reon the big paste above
[01:36] <Bobakitoo> do those driver are open source and will be improved?
[01:36] <teknoprep> Reon scoll up about 100 lines
[01:36] <Reon> teknoprep: lol, the garbled one that is hard to read ?
[01:36] <Samuli^> hiddNX, there might be problems having the windows on second HD.
[01:37] <teknoprep> Reon its garbled toyou?
[01:37] <hiddNX> Samuli^: what problems?
[01:37] <Samuli^> hiddNX, windows not booting :)
[01:37] <teknoprep>  bus info: ide@5.0
[01:37] <Reon> teknoprep: I battle to read info in irc in scrolling text
[01:37] <teknoprep> logical name: /dev/hdk
[01:38] <Sanne> cmarker, I'm just looking over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto myself again because I also did it only once ;). You can put it in per hand, but it might be best first to try doing it in Synaptic, yes?
[01:38] <AngryElf> hey guys -- i'm having a problem with libdvdcss, I've downloaded the deb off of the seveas mirro and dpkg -i 'd it......but i still can't watch encrypted dvds........xine says "The source can't be read.  Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: not disc in drive). (Encrypted or faulty DVD)
[01:38] <AngryElf> but this is while running as root
[01:38] <Reon> teknoprep: does it already have information on it ?
[01:38] <hiddNX> Samuli^: yes, i experiencied it wiht fedore, but i couln't rewrite my grub to other partition, so i installed ubuntu :)
[01:38] <cmarker> sanne, I understand how to do it by hand and I could do that easily but I am not sure what to add
[01:39] <Sanne> cmarker, ok, then I'll give you my line, sec
[01:39] <teknoprep> Reon no its a new hdd
[01:40] <teknoprep> reon i am going to get the data off the current raid when i can.. back itup... see if the 2.4.x kernel works
[01:40] <teknoprep> if it does i am sticking with 2.4.x
[01:40] <Samuli^> hiddNX, one thing you could try is map (0,0) (1,0) / map (1,0) (0,0)
[01:40] <teknoprep> this 2.6.8-11 in debian is blowing my arse
[01:40] <Sanne> cmarker, (you probably won't use 'de', change it accordingly): deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[01:40] <Khaaaaan> Okay let me rephrase the question.....
[01:41] <[n3t0] > how i can fixed this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14103
[01:41] <Inazad> I want some help to connect to a secure ftp with ssl and secure listing required.. anyone can help me plz ?
[01:41] <Samuli^> hddnx, I don't remember if that's the exact format to do mapping. You have to look it somewhere.
[01:41] <Khaaaaan> Is it safe to remove Firefox if I want to only use Epiphany????
[01:41] <Nullified> guys, I have a problem with java under ubuntu, Java's website shows that im using the latest version, however when i type java -version it shows a old version, any one know how i can solve this?
[01:41] <hiddNX> Samuli^: ok, i saw it in grub manual, but touth that this command is just for linux itself.. i'll try it now, thank u
[01:41] <crimsun> Nullified: set the correct PATH in ~/.bashrc
[01:42] <Nullified> do i just gedit?
[01:42] <Samuli^> hiddNX, it's map (hd0) (hd1) and vice versa.
[01:42] <Samuli^> hiddNX, just had to check it up myself :)
[01:42] <hiddNX> Samuli^: yes :)
[01:42] <hiddNX> Samuli^: manual grub
[01:42] <Nullified> crimsun, Do i just gedit ~/.bashrc?
[01:42] <[n3t0] > ?
[01:42] <Sanne> cmarker, here are some more exapmles: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[01:43] <richiefrich> Nullified, what u trying to do
[01:43] <rexkwondo> is this dapper help too?
[01:43] <Khaaaaan> Is it safe to remove Firefox if I want to only use Epiphany????
[01:43] <richiefrich> rexkwondo, yes
[01:43] <crimsun> Nullified: sure
[01:44] <Nullified> richiefrich, When i do java -version in terminal it shows java 1.4 however java website shows 1.5 which i need for azureus
[01:44] <svu_> do epiphany/firefox support CVS anymation?
[01:44] <[n3t0] > clear
[01:44] <richiefrich> Nullified, cant u just change your java u run
[01:44] <Khaaaaan> Is it safe to remove Firefox if I want to only use Epiphany????
[01:44] <carl> Can somebody help me with a problem?
[01:44] <Nullified> I honestly dont know how richiefrich
[01:45] <nickrud_> Khaaaaan, epiphany uses firefox, you still need it :)
[01:45] <carl> I recently installed ubuntu, and I went to download a program, and I can't download anything
[01:45] <carl> It gives me an error
[01:45] <Khaaaaan> ahhh okay
[01:45] <Khaaaaan> Cool
[01:45] <Khaaaaan> Thank you!! :)
[01:45] <Sanne> rexkwondo, #ubuntu+1 is especially for dapper, might want to check out.
[01:45] <rexkwondo> I just got through installing flight 7 on my laptop, and whenever I try to access the network settings of my wireless card, I get complete lock-up.  This never happened with any release before.
[01:46] <cmarker> sanne, thank you very much, that worked
[01:46] <carl> Erm. This thread has more info if anybody can help me
[01:46] <carl> http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?page=1&t=13591443#755061720
[01:46] <googler> hello buddys
[01:46] <Khaaaaan> oh man... please tell me epiphany has a pop up blocker!!!
[01:46] <Sanne> richiefrich, are you I changed my 'active' java package with update-alternatives, is this maybe what you're looking for?
[01:47] <Sanne> cmarker, awesome :)
[01:47] <richiefrich> Nullified, i forget put i know it's with that update-alternatives,
[01:47] <richiefrich> Sanne, thats ikt
[01:47] <overridex> is there a wine package for ubuntu with oss support? or an extra package that adds it?
[01:47] <Sanne> richiefrich, s/are you//
[01:47] <nickrud_> Nullified, try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:48] <richiefrich> Sanne, thanks i knew there was a way
[01:48] <googler> ------------->what desktop environment everyone prefer ?
[01:48] <Sanne> richiefrich :)
[01:48] <richiefrich> googler, e17
[01:48] <nickrud_> mine, googler of course
[01:48] <carl> Is there anybody that can help me?
[01:48] <kevin_> hi bimberi!
[01:49] <richiefrich> carl, problem?
[01:49] <Kadran> hi carl
[01:49] <richiefrich> Nullified,  update-alternatives  <----- u get that
[01:49] <bimberi> hi kevin_
[01:49] <Nullified> There are 2 alternatives which provide `java'.
[01:49] <Nullified>   Selection    Alternative
[01:49] <Nullified> -----------------------------------------------
[01:49] <Nullified>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[01:49] <Nullified> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[01:49] <nickrud_> good morning, bimberi
[01:50] <richiefrich> Sanne, honestly i run 5 bistros so it's hard to keep all them sotred at times
[01:50] <nickrud_> Nullified, then you didn't use a deb to install java, you need to add the path to ~/.bashrc after all :)
[01:50] <Sanne> overridex, my breezy wine package has oss support, at least I can see it in the audio drivers tab in winecfg (dunno if it actually works, though...)
[01:50] <richiefrich> Nullified, u need to install the newer one
[01:51] <Nullified> Im confuggled now
[01:51] <overridex> Sanne: if you click "configure" in that window, do you get an error that it doesn't exist?
[01:51] <Sanne> richiefrich, yeah, running bistros is pretty hard, all those customers all the time (sorry, I had to) ;)
[01:51] <bimberi> good evening nickrud :)
[01:51] <bimberi> nickrud_ even
[01:52] <jonuk> Question:  I'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.10.  When I get to the "Starting Partition" stage, it gets to 100% then the screen goes blank.  Ctrl+C makes the partitioner start over and stall at 52% everytime.
[01:52] <carl> Sorry, my power went out
[01:52] <Quizzer> have ubuntu-server 5.10 installed .. and when trying to ./configure BitchX ... i get this error configure: error: cannot find setupterm or tgetent
[01:52] <delmar> Anyone here know much about setting up a VPN client on on ubuntu to connect to a cisco? are there some nice tools for doing this?
[01:52] <richiefrich> Sanne, i meant distros
[01:52] <nickrud_> bimberi, hm, I guess I need to deghost
[01:52] <Quizzer> where can i find the package for setupterm or tgetent
[01:52] <gearry> I am setting up a new machine, and I am playing around with using NFS to mount /home
[01:52] <Sanne> overridex, no error, I can select it. I'll try to run something, sec.
[01:52] <crimsun> Quizzer: libncurses5-dev
[01:52] <carl> But anyway, about my problem
[01:52] <Mitsurugi> How come I can't use my network when I'm conected with a modem?
[01:52] <snowfaked> jonuk: check your ram, something like memtest86 when booting from installation cd
[01:52] <carl> I can't download anything
[01:52] <jonuk> I'm positive its a problem with my hard drives (specifically the 1st one).  I have 2 HD's, one is a 40GB IDE that has Windows on it, the other is a brand new 250GB IDE with completely unallocated space.
[01:52] <gearry> seems to work fine except for when I run "sudo aptitude"
[01:52] <Sanne> richiefrich, if yourse you meant distros (I was making fun of you)
[01:52] <Quizzer> cool thanks ..
[01:52] <carl> It gives me an error.
[01:53] <jonuk> snowflaked: I'm really sorry, can you be more specific
[01:53] <richiefrich> Sanne, :)
[01:53] <teknoprep> how do i remove kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386
[01:53] <gearry> I get permission denied trying to create .aptitude and write ~/.aptitude/config
[01:53] <carl> "XML parsing error: not well-formed "
[01:53] <teknoprep> can i just
[01:53] <teknoprep> apt-get remove kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386
[01:53] <snowfaked> jonuk: sorry im' too drunk to be specific
[01:53] <teknoprep> when in the 2.4 kernel?
[01:53] <carl> "Location: chrome://mozapps/content/plugins/plugInInstallerWizard.xul "
[01:53] <jonuk> snowfaked: i'm drunk too, this is a problem
[01:53] <jonuk> happy hour
[01:53] <snowfaked> jonuk: i just remember that i had problem partitioning hard drive (it hanged at aroud 50%) when i had bad memory in my machine
[01:53] <gearry> can anyone point me to where I may be going wrong when using sudo and an NFS mounted /home ?
[01:53] <crimsun> Quizzer: hmm, what are you trying to compile?
[01:53] <kevin_> is there a way to make my own livecd, i.e. I want to be able to have a livecd disc containing a program that is not default in ubuntu
[01:54] <snowfaked> jonuk: try to click those Fn buttons like F2 or so.. there's something like memtest86 you can use to test your RAM
[01:54] <delmar> jonuk, drunk already? hah. and its what.. monday there?
[01:54] <swissbear> hi
[01:54] <Sanne> overridex, it seems to work, I get sound.
[01:54] <jonuk> yes, monday and its 7:53
[01:54] <gearry> I run memtest from the live CD
[01:54] <jonuk> happy hour was earlier...hah
[01:54] <gearry> just type memtest at the boot prompt
[01:54] <Mitsurugi> happy hour =] 
[01:54] <delmar> Jonuk, not too early then, but Monday? sh1t dude i thought i was bad.
[01:54] <gearry> install CD has it too
[01:55] <Quizzer> what about this .. i have Tcl 8.4 installed .. configure: error: cannot find tcl.h
[01:55] <carl> This thread has the info on my problem, please help me
[01:55] <carl> http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?page=1&t=13591443#755083993
[01:55] <bimberi> delmar: there's a package called vpnc ...
[01:55] <jonuk> can't beat Applebee's at happy hours...half off appetizers and drinks
[01:55] <overridex> Sanne: interesting...
[01:55] <snowfaked> luckily i'm oing to work next time on thursday so i can drink ;)
[01:55] <IceTox> How can I check which distro a linux computer has?
[01:55] <swissbear> I am a new new ubuntu user and I ve a question
[01:55] <overridex> Sanne: what source are you using for your wine?
[01:55] <Sanne> overridex, but of course I actually run alsa, so the also oss compatibility layer would get used, I think.
[01:55] <bimberi> !info vpnc
[01:55] <ubotu> vpnc: (Cisco-compatible VPN client), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 0.3.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 192 kB
[01:56] <gearry> I have used vpnc
[01:56] <Sanne> overridex, this is the official breezy wine version, not the one from winehq
[01:56] <delmar> bimberi, nice. found it.
[01:56] <overridex> Sanne: ah ok
[01:56] <Nullified> richiefrich, Any way i can remove all current versions of java and just install the new one?
[01:56] <gearry> works pretty well, but did not support rekeying the last I knew
[01:56] <IceTox> How can I check which distro a linux computer has using terminal?
[01:56] <richiefrich> Nullified, if u want yes
[01:56] <Sanne> overridex, this one: Wine 20050725
[01:56] <jonuk> here's the weird thing about my problem
[01:56] <swissbear> someone could tell me were is the corrisponding of task manager?
[01:56] <jonuk> when I unplug my 40 GB drive and just use my 250 GB drive
[01:56] <Nullified> richiefrich, Any ideas on how i would do this?
[01:57] <jonuk> the partitioner loads
[01:57] <richiefrich> carl, apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:57] <Bobakitoo> will XGL be default desktop in next release?
[01:57] <NickGarvey> swissbear: from the command line you can use ps ax
[01:57] <NickGarvey> swissbear: there is a GUI for it though, I don't know it but I'm sure someone here does
[01:57] <richiefrich> Nullified, apt-get install
[01:57] <crimsun> Bobakitoo: unlikely given its current state, but who knows...?
[01:57] <mish4> is ubuntu good for n00bs?
[01:57] <NickGarvey> mish4: designed that way ;)
[01:57] <Bobakitoo> mish4, ubuntu is good for every humain been as said on the site
[01:57] <Sanne> overridex, dunno if this is necessary, but I also have some snd-*-oss kernel module loaded (check with lsmod)
[01:57] <richiefrich> Nullified, or snyaptic
[01:58] <mish4> i tried fedora but i dont like it, i was configuring my monitor and then it was like okay im not gonna work no more
[01:58] <NickGarvey> swissbear: gnome system monitor
[01:58] <bimberi> IceTox: many distros will have an /etc/issue file
[01:58] <jonuk> A similar problem I had:  When using the LiveCD, the start up stalled at "Starting Volume Enterprise Management"
[01:58] <jonuk> I could hit Ctrl+C and get past it though, I'm assuming the problems are related
[01:58] <kevin_> mish4, ubuntu has a livecd you can try out before even installing it on your hard drive, good enough to find out if it's good enough for you :) Just remember it will run a bit slower as it will need to load itself into memory
[01:59] <Bobakitoo> mish4, so far it got all my hardware right the first time, except nvidia driver witch i had to install extra package to get 3d
[01:59] <carl> richiefrich, do what now?
[01:59] <kevin_> mish4 is gone ;)
[01:59] <richiefrich> carl, reinstall FF
[01:59] <delmar> bimberi, so when i run the gui front end.. kvpnc .. i get a error window.... says... please check that the "dcopserver" program is running
[01:59] <daryl_> !wow
[01:59] <ubotu> To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[01:59] <carl> How would I go about doing that one?
[01:59] <carl> >>;
[01:59] <richiefrich> carl, thats what the tread said
[01:59] <richiefrich> carl, apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:59] <hiddNX> Samuili^: its works! thank you!
[01:59] <uncle_bez> how do I get a list of channels on this server using colloquy?
[01:59] <timmy334> if I'm using a bttv card that would need software encoding, what can I use to simply RECORD video?
[01:59] <carl> k
[02:00] <Bobakitoo> ubotu, you know if that build of wine can run guildwars?
[02:00] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Bobakitoo
[02:00] <wasabi__> uncle_bez: Isn't Colloquy a MacOS IRC client?
[02:00] <richiefrich> carl, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:00] <uncle_bez> oops, sorry wrong room. ;)
[02:00] <Quizzer> why would i get this error .. configure: error: cannot find tcl.h
[02:00] <wasabi__> Heh.
[02:00] <jonuk> okay different question
[02:00] <richiefrich> carl, i meant that
[02:00] <Quizzer> when i have tcl8 installed
[02:00] <swissbear> yes! thank you so much
[02:00] <jonuk> I was able to get the partitioner up without my 40gb hard drive plugged in
[02:00] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: have the source for it?
[02:00] <jonuk> I made partitions like this on my 250 GB drive
[02:00] <jonuk> 10GB /root primary partition
[02:00] <Quizzer> i dont know i installed tcl8.4 with the package
[02:00] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: then I doubt it
[02:00] <jonuk> 20GB /home logical partition
[02:01] <carl> Where is that, richiefrich?
[02:01] <jonuk> 512MB /swap logical partition
[02:01] <carl> >>;
[02:01] <Quizzer> NickGarvey .. how do i get tcl.h
[02:01] <richiefrich> carl, open a terminal
[02:01] <jonuk> and then I tried makin the remaining 220GB or whatever a FAT32 partition
[02:01] <bimberi> delmar: sorry i only knew of vpnc's existence - never used it personally :|
[02:01] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: download the source
[02:01] <richiefrich> carl, it's in the menu someplace
[02:01] <delmar> ok
[02:01] <bimberi> !channels
[02:01] <ubotu> For a list of Freenode channels try http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[02:01] <jonuk> but I got this error: "The attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in IDE1 master partition #3 /usr failed"
[02:01] <donvella> hows this coming from a windows user, in windows, i can goto Explorer and find any file that im after, im having trouble finding my way around linux, i can use the terminal comfortably, not the best but i can find my way around, im just wondering why things are so difficult to locate and change?
[02:01] <Quizzer> from .. you got a link
[02:02] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: no I'm sure google does, google tcl
[02:02] <richiefrich> jonuk, why u do that
[02:02] <Quizzer> or an apt-get package
[02:02] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: sourceforge
[02:02] <richiefrich> jonuk, u cant make a fat32 that big iirc
[02:02] <jonuk> well, i wanted to use the rest as shared space between Windows and Linux
[02:02] <carl> I already have the newest version of firefix
[02:02] <richiefrich> carl, ok but u get errors right
[02:02] <carl> Yes
[02:02] <bimberi> uncle_bez: that ubotu factoid is for you - i realise it's not a colloquy specific answer though
[02:02] <richiefrich> carl, then just re-install it
[02:02] <IceTox> thanks bimberi
[02:02] <carl> Okay
[02:02] <jonuk> how big can fat32 be?
[02:03] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: here
[02:03] <richiefrich> jonuk, iirc 4 G
[02:03] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/tcl/tcl8.5a4-src.tar.gz?download
[02:03] <CyaniCs|testing> total file system size? or file size?
[02:03] <jonuk> richie: i thought that was just filesize on a FAT32
[02:03] <jonuk> file system size
[02:03] <CyaniCs|testing> yes. 4gb = max file size
[02:03] <carl> How do I uninstall something?
[02:03] <nickrud> jonuk, I think 32gb?
[02:03] <carl> Sorry for being linux ignorant
[02:03] <jonuk> i tried to make 220GB file system size
[02:03] <Flannel> 8gb is max.
[02:03] <NickGarvey> Carl: did you get it with apt-get
[02:03] <jonuk> nickrud: oh okay, thanks
[02:03] <CyaniCs|testing> not, its 2TB
[02:04] <carl> Explain that to me please
[02:04] <CyaniCs|testing> sorry. No, it's 2TB
[02:04] <CyaniCs|testing> max file system
[02:04] <Flannel> no, file system is 8gb.
[02:04] <richiefrich> Flannel, thats it, yes
[02:04] <Samuli^> Flannel, 4GB is maximum file size for fat32
[02:04] <Flannel> Samuli^: file size, not disk size.
[02:04] <CyaniCs|testing> actually, im corrected, 8TB max file system size
[02:04] <jonuk> CyaniCs, so I should be able to partition 220GB on FAT32?
[02:04] <uncle_bez> thanks bimberi!, i'm used to using xchat
[02:04] <monteiro> is there a way to put a bash script working at startup ?
[02:04] <CyaniCs|testing> yeah, but you will need a more advanced partitioner than windows to do it.
[02:04] <Samuli^> Flannel, there's a difference between GB and TB :)
[02:04] <googler> Max for FAT32 = 32GB
[02:04] <CyaniCs|testing> like fdisk on a live linux
[02:05] <bimberi> uncle_bez: np, me too :)
[02:05] <CyaniCs|testing> #googler if its 32GB, then why do i have a 160GB fat32 on my desk?
[02:05] <Samuli^> jonuk, why would you want to do that?
[02:05] <Samuli^> fat32 is lousy file system
[02:05] <googler> what !!!!!!!
[02:05] <Quizzer> NickGarvey : k .. downloaded .. uncompressed and running ./configure
[02:05] <googler> r u sure?
[02:05] <jonuk> Samuli, I just wanted to make the rest of the space to be shared between Windows and Linux
[02:05] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: :)
[02:05] <donvella> is ext3 good?
[02:05] <nickrud> heh. 2TB. I shouldn't trust quick searches
[02:05] <CyaniCs|testing> Western Digital external 160 dual mode
[02:06] <NickGarvey> googler: wait wait
[02:06] <CyaniCs|testing> usb2/1394
[02:06] <jonuk> I want to access Music files through both Linux and Windows
[02:06] <Quizzer> then i do make after the ./configure and then make install
[02:06] <Samuli^> jonuk, o-kay., I guess it's about the only choice.
[02:06] <NickGarvey> googler: WINDOWS only allows fat to be 32
[02:06] <CyaniCs|testing> 160GB fat32
[02:06] <Paul8688> googler, i have 80gig fat32
[02:06] <googler> ok nick
[02:06] <NickGarvey> googler: linux on the other hand ;)
[02:06] <CyaniCs|testing> no, even windows allows 8TB fat32
[02:06] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: check the INSTALL or README file, but normally yes thats it
[02:06] <Quizzer> ok
[02:06] <carl> How do I uninstall firefox?
[02:06] <NickGarvey> CyaniCs|testing: really? I haven't been able to get that working
[02:06] <snowfaked> i think windows allows you to read larger than 32GB, but doesn't support creating larger than 32GB
[02:06] <donvella> jonuk: i use Ubuntu Dapper, and i can access my NTFS drive on linux.
[02:06] <CyaniCs|testing> its a 16bit addressing that restricts to 32GB
[02:06] <NickGarvey> Carl: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox
[02:06] <googler> 80GB as one partition ?
[02:06] <NickGarvey> CyaniCs|testing: oh alrighty then
[02:07] <Flannel> hmmm, 2TB.  Is what MS says.
[02:07] <jonuk> donvella: i was trying to install Breezy
[02:07] <Flannel> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;310525
[02:07] <Samuli^> donvella, yes, but can you write to it? (you shouldn't)
[02:07] <Paul8688> yeah and it runs under windows too
[02:07] <CyaniCs|testing> #googler you are partially correct
[02:07] <klaiton> hello mans!
[02:07] <googler> partially ,how
[02:07] <CyaniCs|testing> the formating utilities in Win32 (xp/nt/2k) can't format it larger than 32GB
[02:07] <snowfaked> i remember there's difference between then size windows can create and the size it can read
[02:07] <donvella> Samuli^: it wouldnt matter, ill try but he wanted to access his music files through linux and windows, you simply can
[02:07] <CyaniCs|testing> but systems like partitionmagic can
[02:07] <Samuli^> richiefrich, he just said why.
[02:08] <richiefrich> Samuli^, i missed it
[02:08] <carl> Then to install do "sudo apt-get install firefox" right?
[02:08] <richiefrich> carl, yes
[02:08] <CyaniCs|testing> stay away from fat32 on linux with music files!!!!
[02:08] <Samuli^> donvella, what if he wants to correct a typo on the mp3-id or add some new music?
[02:08] <googler> yes cyanics u r right
[02:08] <CyaniCs|testing> it will truncate long names
[02:08] <klaiton> carl yes...
[02:08] <Flannel> CyaniCs|testing: it's not 8TB,its 2.  Just for future arguments ;)
[02:08] <carl> Thank you.
[02:08] <donvella> Samuli^: <jonuk> I want to access Music files through both Linux and Windows
[02:08] <richiefrich> carl, np
[02:08] <richiefrich> donvella, use smaba
[02:09] <klaiton> ;)
[02:09] <donvella> Samuli^: He didnt mention anything other then accessing his music
[02:09] <Quizzer> NickGarvey : thank you .. works for me now
 Samuli, I just wanted to make the rest of the space to be shared between Windows and Linux
[02:09] <CyaniCs|testing> you can jurry rig 8tb partitions.
[02:09] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: :)
[02:09] <Samuli^> donvella, anyways let him be the judge what to do :D
[02:09] <richiefrich> donvella, sorry i think thats for jonuk
[02:09] <CyaniCs|testing> have never messed around (and who in their right might would) with anything larger than 500GB in fat32
[02:09] <NickGarvey> Samuli^: actually, windows can access ubuntu and change it
[02:09] <donvella> Samuli^:  lol
[02:09] <jonuk> okay so to access music files on both Windows and Linux...do I need to make the partition FAT32 or can I leave it NTFS
[02:09] <RandolphCarter> urg, you must've lost like 50GB of that partition in overhead?
[02:10] <googler> so Cyanics what utilities u use to format 32+ GB to FAT32 ?
[02:10] <NickGarvey> jonuk: linux can read windows, but not change it
[02:10] <donvella> jonuk: do you want to edit your music, or just lpay it?
[02:10] <donvella> play*
[02:10] <CyaniCs|testing> do you have a network?
[02:10] <jonuk> play it, and view pictures/videos
[02:10] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk ?
[02:10] <NickGarvey> jonuk: so if you want to just play it, then ntfs is fine
[02:10] <jonuk> okay, cool
[02:10] <donvella> yeh you can do all that on a NTFS file system
[02:10] <Samuli^> jonuk, if you don't need to write to the hd, then ntfs is fine.
[02:10] <NickGarvey> jonuk: yeah ntfs is fine if you don't want it changed
[02:10] <jonuk> what do I set the mount to
[02:10] <jonuk> when I format for NTFS
[02:10] <CyaniCs|testing> if you have a network, you can configure a external HD using NTFS and support writes with SMB
[02:10] <RandolphCarter> /mnt/music should work and meet LSB standards
[02:11] <CyaniCs|testing> you just need an external enclosure with LAN support
[02:11] <steve> Sorry for interupting, but how do I set the password for root?
[02:11] <ompaul> !root
[02:11] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:11] <CyaniCs|testing> sudo passwd root
[02:11] <jonuk> so just mount it to something like /mnt/documents
[02:11] <donvella> unless you reenable it
[02:11] <RandolphCarter> yeah jonuk
[02:11] <Samuli^> jonuk, yeah.
[02:11] <richiefrich> jonuk, no
[02:12] <jonuk> lol
[02:12] <richiefrich> jonuk, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222                    0 0
[02:12] <richiefrich> in fstab
[02:12] <carl> How do I install a program such as Ares?
[02:12] <carl> Or
[02:12] <jonuk> richie: sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:12] <googler> IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE NTFS PART. R/W ?
[02:12] <steve> Ah, thanks. Kubuntu and Ubuntu are different when setting root passwords.
[02:12] <RandolphCarter>  /media != LSB?
[02:12] <carl> How do I use the bit torrent?
[02:12] <drasko> Hi all. I installed enlightenment, but it is not shown in gdm, so I can not choose this session. How to add it?
[02:12] <CyaniCs|testing> #googler yes
[02:12] <Flannel> steve, no they're not.
[02:12] <googler> TESTED AND RELIABLE ?
[02:12] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: yep, at least haven't seen that on ubuntu/fedora/rhel
[02:12] <gnomefreak> CyaniCs|testing: please dont advise anyone to enable the root password
[02:12] <CyaniCs|testing> #googler but you need to compile a custom kernel with NTFS write support (experimental)
[02:13] <Samuli^> jonuk, you add that line to /etc/fstab so that it automatically mounts at boot.
[02:13] <Rhine> Has anyone done this before? I need help with some of the steps
[02:13] <Rhine> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive
[02:13] <googler> OIC
[02:13] <snowfaked> what's wrong with using sudo? usually you don' tneed to use many commands as root
[02:13] <jonuk> Final question:  Since I am going to have to unplug one of my hard drives to install Ubuntu, will it be difficult to configure GRUB to be a Dual-boot system afterwards
[02:13] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: heh, I mean mounting ntfs/fat32 into /media, afaik they should go in /mnt
[02:13] <snowfaked> and you can always use sudo -i to get root shell
[02:13] <ompaul> googler, turn off caps lock please
[02:14] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: i read that with solaris you would mount something AS /mnt and not under /mnt...like mounting /dev/hda as /mnt
[02:14] <Samuli^> jonuk, sort of.. but it can be done pretty easily if you know what you're doing.
[02:14] <googler> ok sorry opaul !
[02:14] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: my memory could fail me as i'm somewhat drunk ;)
[02:14] <jonuk> well, i don't know what i'm doing
[02:14] <jonuk> i wish i could just leave both drives plugged in
[02:14] <jonuk> and get to the damn partitioner
[02:14] <nickrud> drasko, you need to add a .desktop file to /usr/share/xsession that calls whatever e17 uses to start
[02:14] <snowfaked> ...i don't know what that has to do with this but i had an urge to say it...
[02:14] <ompaul> googler, no you can't write to ntfs on ubuntu
[02:14] <donvella> jonuk: why dont you just do that?
[02:14] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: and I'm being overly pedantic, but just checked the LSB and /media is for removable media
[02:14] <nickrud> drasko, er, /usr/share/xsessions
[02:14] <YogSothoth> Hi
[02:14] <h3h_timo> how do you obtain root privaleges temporarily so i can copy things into my pixmaps folder?
[02:15] <donvella> jonuk: all you want to do is install linux on one drive and windows on the other correct?
[02:15] <nickrud> h3h_timo, sudo -i
[02:15] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: sudo?
[02:15] <jonuk> donvella:  yes
[02:15] <ompaul> RandolphCarter, well that use case was on fat :-)
[02:15] <h3h_timo> will i still be able to do things in the desktopp?? with root privelages?
[02:15] <Samuli^> h3h_timo, if you want to use nautilus as a root type: gksudo nautilus
[02:15] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, sudo -Hs
[02:15] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: sudo -s or gksudo nautilus
[02:15] <jonuk> donvella: but when i start the installer, it hangs at Starting Partitioner
[02:15] <donvella> jonuk: why dont you just killdisk both harddrives, install windows on your first HDD then ubuntu on yoru second HDD
[02:15] <h3h_timo> thanks
[02:15] <ompaul> gnomefreak, -i not -s :-)
[02:15] <YogSothoth> How can I type characters that are not on my keyboard? Under Windows I could use Alt and a numerical reference to the character. What can I do under Ubuntu/Gnome?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> ompaul: -i doesnt do gui
[02:15] <ompaul> ah
[02:16] <richiefrich>  -Hs does all
[02:16] <jonuk> donvella:  i already have windows installed on the first hard drive, I'd like to just leave it as is
[02:16] <RandolphCarter> hmm, I guess the installer breaks LSB too, as does mounting drives you always use to /mnt
[02:16] <donvella> YogSothoth: Applications > Accessories > Character Map
[02:16] <HymnToLife> YogSothoth> Ctrl+Shif+codethe code has to be in hexadecimal
[02:16] <DBO> YogSothoth, Ctrl+Shift+numbers
[02:16] <nickrud> gnomefreak, that -H switch is nice
[02:16] <klaiton> ahauhauaa
[02:16] <donvella> jonuk: whats on your second drive atm?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> nickrud: agreed but wasnt thinking about it
[02:16] <richiefrich> nickrud,  -Hs   gives u root term
[02:17] <klaiton> bye! for you
[02:17] <tank1500> YogSothoth: you can just go to Application, Accessories, character map 
[02:17] <nickrud> richiefrich, same as -i? Gotta check the environment
[02:17] <jonuk> donvella:  second drive is completely unallocated space...i want to use about 40GB for linux, and just leave the rest free for storage
[02:17] <donvella> jonuk: why dont you just killdisk your second harddrive, so it has no data on it, then install ubuntu fresh on that?
[02:17] <h3h_timo> it still wont let me paste things into it?
[02:17] <CyaniCs|testing> how big is the drive?
[02:17] <richiefrich> nickrud, no i dont think u can run GU"I stuff with -Hs
[02:17] <YogSothoth> Yeah! Ctrl+Shift+00e1 gives me the ! Cool, just what I needed. Thanks guys!
[02:17] <jonuk> donvella: the 2nd hard drive has nothing on it
[02:18] <jonuk> already
[02:18] <donvella> jonuk: doesnt matter, still needs to be killdisked
[02:18] <gnomefreak> nickrud: you cant run gui with the -i parameter
[02:18] <YogSothoth> tank1500, donvella, yes that's the point: I'm bored using the character map
[02:18] <gnomefreak> thats what the -s is for ;)
[02:18] <EruditeHermit> hey, does anyone know if something like marillat codecs exist for ubuntu?
[02:18] <donvella> jonuk: if your having installation problems on a blank HDD you either have a corrupt HDD or you have information stored on it
[02:18] <jonuk> so you think that will keep the Partitioner from hanging
[02:18] <jonuk> donvella, I'm not having trouble installing on the blank HDD
[02:18] <nickrud> gnomefreak, precisely, it protects your settings in $HOME.
[02:18] <vdepizzol> where I can find this wallpaper? http://www.flickr.com/photos/cassidydr/144366945/in/set-72057594051760884/
[02:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell EruditeHermit about codecs
[02:18] <CyaniCs|testing> #donvella low level format
[02:19] <jonuk> I can install on the 2nd hard drive if I unplug the 1st hard drive
[02:19] <gnomefreak> nickrud: correct
[02:19] <richiefrich> jonuk, whats the dev addy /dev/?
[02:19] <jonuk> if I have the 1st one plugged in, the installation stall at Starting Partitioner
[02:19] <donvella> jonuk: :) did you install the HDDs yourself?
[02:19] <jonuk> richie: i'm sorry, i don't know
[02:19] <gnomefreak> vdepizzol: did you look on gnome-look.org or art.gnome.com?
[02:19] <richiefrich> jonuk, thats why--> fdisk -l
[02:20] <donvella> jonuk: you must killdisk, format, then install your preferred OS
[02:20] <richiefrich> jonuk, what is it ?    sda sdb
[02:20] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, it still wont let me copy things into it
[02:20] <jonuk> richie, i need to fdisk my 2nd hard drive, instead of leaving it as unallocated space?
[02:20] <richiefrich> jonuk, but u need to know what it is
[02:20] <donvella> jonuk: YES
[02:20] <jonuk> riche: i'm sorry, i don't know if its sda or sdb
[02:20] <richiefrich> jonuk, fdisk -l
[02:20] <jonuk> okay, i will try to fdisk -1
[02:20] <donvella> jonuk: i told you, killdisk, format the drive, install the OS, it will work just fine
[02:20] <richiefrich> not 1
[02:21] <jonuk> i mean -l
[02:21] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/where/you/wantit
[02:21] <NickGarvey> jonuk: it is a L
[02:21] <richiefrich> l
[02:21] <siriusnova> hey guys i can't seem to get any audio input from my mic on my laptop
[02:21] <DBO> vdepizzol, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=35417
[02:21] <vdepizzol> gnomefreak: i'm goint to seach it
[02:21] <jonuk> yes, sorry
[02:21] <h3h_timo> alright thanks
[02:21] <siriusnova> or from the line-in
[02:21] <siriusnova> can anyone hel
[02:21] <siriusnova> help?
[02:21] <richiefrich> NickGarvey, thanks
[02:21] <jonuk> thank you guys for all of your help
[02:21] <vdepizzol> DBO: thanks :D
[02:21] <richiefrich> np
[02:21] <jonuk> i really appreciate it and will let you know if it works
[02:21] <donvella> jonuk: one more thihng
[02:21] <richiefrich> jonuk, what is it?
[02:21] <donvella> jonuk: did you install the HDDs yourself?
[02:21] <Quizzer> NickGarvey : worked but now i get this problem... configure: error: cannot find "./source/tcl.c" or "source/tcl.o"
[02:22] <jonuk> donvella: 1st hard drive was factory
[02:22] <jonuk> 2nd was installed by me
[02:22] <CyaniCs|testing> ah...
[02:22] <CyaniCs|testing> cable jumpers
[02:22] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: what are you running that is doing that?
[02:22] <donvella> jonuk: did you put the plastic clips into your HDDS to determine the primary from secondary
[02:22] <Quizzer> BitchX .. ./configure
[02:22] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk did you set your pins to master/slave or CS?
[02:22] <jonuk> donvella: yes, my 1st hard drive is master, 2nd is set at slave
[02:22] <Quizzer> i know i could just use the package for bitchx
[02:22] <richiefrich> if it's a SATA he dosnt have to
[02:23] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk and when you are in BIOS, you can see both hard drives?
[02:23] <donvella> you have set that with the plastic clips or just thru bios?
[02:23] <Quizzer> if i cant figure it out by tomorrow morning will justapt-get the package
[02:23] <jonuk> donvella: plastic clips/jumpers whatever you call them
[02:23] <donvella> jumpers yeh
[02:23] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: oh bitchx wants it..
[02:23] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: yeah Iw ould just apt-get it
[02:23] <richiefrich> jonuk, do u see ikt in fdisk -l
[02:23] <Quizzer> yeah
[02:23] <jonuk> everyone: quick run down of what i did...i installed hard drive and formatted it just using disk manager in Windows, but accidentally set it to Dynamic Disk...then started storing files on it
[02:23] <Quizzer> ok ..
[02:23] <jonuk> Recently, I went to Disk Manager, deleted the entire Volume and changed it to Basic Disk
[02:24] <jonuk> now it just has completely Unallocated Space
[02:24] <richiefrich> jonuk, do u see ikt in fdisk -l
[02:24] <CyaniCs|testing> and when you do an installation, are you formatting the disk with an ext3 partition?
[02:24] <CyaniCs|testing> or just letting it setup the disk itself?
[02:24] <jonuk> richie: i'm really sorry, but how do i do that
[02:25] <richiefrich> in a terminal
[02:25] <jonuk> *don';t
[02:25] <tank1500> Is there any way that I can create a new folder in my system files?
[02:25] <jonuk> so just go to a DOS Prompt?
[02:25] <richiefrich> jonuk, sudo fdisk -l
[02:25] <richiefrich> jonuk, are u in linux?
[02:25] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk this is in linux, not in windows
[02:25] <jonuk> richie...windows
[02:25] <jonuk> i'm in windows
[02:25] <richiefrich> jonuk, then u can do htese things
[02:25] <NickGarvey> jonuk: oh hahahaha we have been giving you linux instructions
[02:25] <nickrud> tank1500, sudo mkdir /path/to/new/dir
[02:25] <jonuk> i'm just trying to install linux for the first time
[02:25] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk both disks are hooked up right now, right?
[02:25] <jonuk> Nick: shit, sorry guys
[02:26] <NickGarvey> jonuk: heh its fie
[02:26] <ompaul> jonuk, you will need to get a terminal, Applications, Accessories, Terminal, and in there type the bit between the arrow heads >>sudo fdisk -l<< get that output and go to https://paste.ubuntu-nl.org with it and enter it there and then give the url of that page in this channel
[02:26] <richiefrich> jonuk, u need to boot to linux
[02:26] <jonuk> CyaniCs...yes
[02:26] <HymnToLife> lmao ompaul, you typed al that for nothing
[02:26] <donvella> jonuk: what is your interest with linux?
[02:26] <tank1500> nickrud, thanks
[02:26] <CyaniCs|testing> ok. when you reboot, you have your linux install cd in the drive, right?
[02:26] <CyaniCs|testing> and it starts the installer?
[02:26] <jonuk> donvella: i just want to be able to dual-boot linux/windows so I can try out linux and learn the OS
[02:27] <jonuk> then hopefully eventually switch entirely to Linux
[02:27] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk getting you there.
[02:27] <tank1500> hey, is there some place that I can get a list of all those terminal commands?
[02:27] <drasko> nickrud, I'll try this...
[02:27] <NickGarvey> !cli
[02:27] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[02:27] <donvella> jonuk: why dont you use something simple for now like knoppix?
[02:27] <nickrud> drasko, what??
[02:27] <donvella> to get your way around the os
[02:27] <jonuk> CyniCs: yes, I reboot with linux installer CD
[02:27] <richiefrich> jonuk, thats grub no problem
[02:27] <NickGarvey> tank1500: read what ubotu just spit out
[02:27] <ompaul> jonuk, so get yourself the live CD that comes with ubuntu and use that
[02:27] <drasko> nickrud, well,. for xsessions....
[02:27] <CyaniCs|testing> ok, and it starts the installation process?
[02:27] <tank1500> hehe, yeah, thanks
[02:27] <jonuk> ompaul: well, I've used the LiveCD for a little bit and decided to go ahead and permanently install
[02:28] <NickGarvey> jonuk: okie, can you boot the cd and then come back in here?
[02:28] <jonuk> CyaniCs: yes it starts the install process
[02:28] <ompaul> jonuk, so get the install CD and start the install
[02:28] <CyaniCs|testing> when you get to the part that asks you about partitioning your disk, you are telling it to automatically partiton? or are you setting up your own partitions?
[02:28] <jonuk> I do start the install, but when it gets the Starting Partition stage, it loads to 100% and then hangs and goes blank
[02:28] <Rhine> Anyone know the easiest process to write to NTFS i dont care if i nuke the harddrive, becuase if i cant write to it im reformating :/
[02:28] <jonuk> THen I hit Ctrl+C and the partitioner loads to 52% and hangs for got
[02:29] <jonuk> good
[02:29] <CyaniCs|testing> #Rhine recompile your kernel with NTFS write support
[02:29] <jonuk> So it never loads the actually partitioner for me to start partitioning my disk
[02:29] <CyaniCs|testing> ok.
[02:29] <Rhine> O.o Is there a guide for this or is a newbie screwed?
[02:29] <CyaniCs|testing> you need to do a custom partition
[02:29] <CyaniCs|testing> so instead of automatic, choose manual.
[02:29] <CyaniCs|testing> it will be disk HDB
[02:29] <gnomefreak> Rhine: you write to it you might be reformatting also lol
[02:30] <Rhine> well i have two drives
[02:30] <Rhine> one has windows which im trying to save :/
[02:30] <CyaniCs|testing> (probably hdb)
[02:30] <nickpresta> I was wondering if I could get some help with an uncommon mouse problem?
[02:30] <jonuk> it's a very weird problem, i think
[02:30] <jonuk> i can't find any solutions online
[02:30] <jonuk> in the forums
[02:30] <Rhine> I have tried this but it doesnt work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive
[02:30] <chowells> nickpresta: if you just ask the question, someone might know the answer
[02:30] <sorush20> is I need to use hotplug in upload a firmware to a printer caue the printer is silly then what will I don in dapper when the hotplug is gone?
[02:30] <donvella> jonuk: its not wierd, you just arent following procedure
[02:30] <Quizzer> any chance anyone knows of an online source for information about useradd .. want to know how to restrict them to just thier dir. /home/username
[02:30] <sorush20> if
[02:31] <CyaniCs|testing> its confusing the first time.
[02:31] <donvella> jonuk: killdisk, format your second HDD, it must be ready for installation.
[02:31] <nickpresta> well, at seemingly random times, although more commonly when I switch applications, my mouse will go crazy.
[02:31] <ompaul> jonuk, did you have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions  or wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge ?
[02:31] <green_earz> jonuk: where the cd from, do you down load it or was it posted to you ?
[02:31] <nickpresta> it will move across the screen extremely fast and almost always end up in the top right corner
[02:31] <CyaniCs|testing> #donvella the installer will format the disk appropriately.
[02:31] <jonuk> ompaul: i've glanced at them, i will read more thorouhgly
[02:31] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: oh I think you want.. chroot
[02:31] <donvella> CyaniCs|testing: not if the disk is corrupt
[02:31] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk do the manual partitioning.
[02:31] <jonuk> donvella: so you think the reason the Partitioner is stalling is because my 2nd hard drive isn't formatted
[02:31] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: not sure how to force that though
[02:31] <nickrud> sorush20, how'd you use hotplug for that <curiosity, mostly>
[02:32] <ompaul> jonuk, go for it now - and no that would not stop it
[02:32] <jonuk> CyaniCs: I can't even get to that part
[02:32] <CyaniCs|testing> it will, just not if the MBR is corrupt.
[02:32] <CyaniCs|testing> try donvellas advice.
[02:32] <sorush20> well there is a firmware file that is uploaded to the printer since the hotplug script does it everytime for me..
[02:32] <donvella> jonuk: i have had installation problems with both windows and linux and not been able to fix anything without killdisking, so i find if all else fails, i pop in killdisk, let it do its thing, fdisk and install
[02:32] <CyaniCs|testing> boot to your live disk, and run an fdisk on the second hard drive, and delete anything.
[02:33] <ompaul> jonuk, as CyaniCs|testing suggested there, that is a good idea, give it a shot and come back to us
[02:33] <Quizzer> ok
[02:33] <Rhine> When i add this to fstab /dev/hda1    /media/hda1    ntfs-fuse    auto,gid=1002,umask=0002    0    0 i get I/O errors on boot i think it is the umask?!
[02:33] <CyaniCs|testing> then boot and run (probably from a floppy) active kill disk (google search "active kill disk"
[02:33] <jonuk> okay so boot LiveCD, fdisk my 2nd hard drive, try install again, then come back
[02:33] <thor> is it possible to put ubuntu in a usb memory and boot using the memory?
[02:33] <sorush20> is it possible for me to write a little script like cat firmware>> printer
[02:33] <ompaul> jonuk, yes
[02:33] <Flannel> thor: yeah.  If your BIOS supports booting from USB.
[02:33] <HymnToLife> thor> use DSL for that
[02:33] <donvella> http://www.killdisk.com i suggest the ISO version CD
[02:34] <sorush20> and I could have that running every time right?
[02:34] <jonuk> okay, before i try this...if it works
[02:34] <CyaniCs|testing> #Flannel is correct
[02:34] <Flannel> thor: but, yeah, ask HymnToLife said, you're probably better off with distros suited for that specifically.
[02:34] <jonuk> what do I mount the NTFS partition to?
[02:34] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/WINDOWS"
[02:34] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[02:34] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:34] <HymnToLife> jonuk> to wherever you want
[02:34] <jonuk> okay, thank you CyaniCs
[02:35] <CyaniCs|testing> no worries.
[02:35] <CyaniCs|testing> here to help
[02:35] <ompaul> Rhine, what is ntfs-fuse ? ntfs is a supported mount type
[02:35] <nickrud> sorush20, that's the general idea: you'd put that script into /etc/init.d, and then run sudo update-rc.d defaults NN . NN probably should be <19, since cups is 19
[02:35] <shadeofgrey> hey does anybody here run the boic client for distributed computing
[02:35] <shadeofgrey> ?
[02:35] <ompaul> gnomefreak, cheer up
[02:35] <Determinist> ohh, nice, now konversation is starting to behave like xchat
[02:35] <gnomefreak> im just tired ill be in bed soon
[02:35] <outlawcrook> ok i did all that was said on the page for the nvidia cards
[02:35] <jonuk> okay time to try...thanks again everyone
[02:35] <Determinist> i'm being a masochist again and trying kde on my laptop
[02:36] <richiefrich> gnomefreak, tired us linux ppl dont sleep :)
[02:36] <outlawcrook> then had to do a reinstall of ubuntu
[02:36] <outlawcrook> could not get back in
[02:36] <CyaniCs|testing> im eagerly waiting dapper
[02:36] <gnomefreak> lol richiefrich thats why im tired and i have to fast for 12 hrs anyway so sleep is best way to do that
[02:36] <outlawcrook> gave me error API mismatch
[02:36] <richiefrich> gnomefreak, i stay up for like 40 hours
[02:37] <HymnToLife> I did 50 once
[02:37] <nickrud> youth :(
[02:37] <richiefrich> gnomefreak, is not good but thats what i do
[02:37] <HymnToLife> playing Diablo II on LAN :D
[02:37] <outlawcrook> so what went wrong?
[02:37] <richiefrich> HymnToLife, ive done a week with 'help'
[02:37] <snowfaked> diablo II works with linux?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: under cedega maybe?
[02:37] <jon_> howdy! does ubuntu come with a feed aggregator?
[02:37] <snowfaked> blah cedega :/
[02:37] <HymnToLife> nope, under Windows :D
[02:38] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: maybe wine but i doubt it
[02:38] <nickrud> jon_, straw, liferea are the two that come to mind
[02:38] <snowfaked> are there any other native linux games than et,quake,ut,tuxracer?
[02:38] <donvella> HymnToLife: what does your name mean?
[02:38] <donvella> UT?!
[02:38] <NickGarvey> snowfaked: cube I think
[02:38] <CyaniCs|empire> #jon_ several
[02:38] <donvella> you can run UT on this? onlinE?!
[02:38] <CyaniCs|empire> try akregator
[02:38] <hyphenated> donvella: yes, UT
[02:38] <snowfaked> like playable games, not something like "my lame poker v0.1" ;)
[02:38] <bbrazil> snowfaked: quake2, adventure, nethack
[02:38] <jon_> nickrud: these come with the standard install?
[02:38] <DBO> snowfaked, Doom3
[02:38] <intelikey> quick Q,  i want to use vlc in console, what if any special notes ?
[02:38] <HymnToLife> donvella> slightly offtopic, it's the name of an album by Timo Tolkki
[02:38] <snowfaked> yeah doom and nethack
[02:38] <donvella> hyphenated: i have allocated 2 jobs for you. get my ATI drivers running and get UT running lol
[02:38] <Phoul> How do i get xmms playing wma?
[02:38] <nickrud> jon_, no, but they're easily installed from the net
[02:38] <jon_> thanks, CyaniCs|empire
[02:38] <snowfaked> only shoot-em-ups :/
[02:39] <DBO> snowfaked, Americas Army used to have a linux client, but they killed that
[02:39] <HymnToLife> snowfaked> Frozen Bubble :D
[02:39] <ompaul> !tell donvella about ati
[02:39] <gnomefreak> !wma
[02:39] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:39] <gnomefreak> Phoul: ^^^^
[02:39] <ompaul> donvella, read the stuff the bot sent you :-)
[02:39] <daddius> anyone know the package name for .wma files?
[02:39] <bbrazil> snowfaked: nethack and adventure aren't shoot'em ups, although if you want that there's hunt
[02:39] <jon_> nickrud: thanks. just didn't want to go find one if there are any already installed
[02:39] <donvella> Phoul: one problem with that mate
[02:39] <gnomefreak> daddius: ^^^^
[02:39] <snowfaked> bbrazil: yep i know nethack
[02:39] <jon_> nickrud: got a fave?
[02:39] <hyphenated> snowfaked: there are plenty of games, but for commercial 3D games, the only ones that work well are from id (doom3, et and so on) or the kids that make Unreal games
[02:39] <ompaul> !tell daddius about restricted
[02:39] <outlawcrook> said the nvidia kernel module is version 1.0.7174 but this module is version 1.0.7667
[02:39] <outlawcrook> what does all that mean?
[02:39] <bbrazil> snowfaked: so why would you want anything else ;)
[02:39] <donvella> Phoul: if the WMA is licenced to windows your screwed, eg ebaumsworld.com
[02:40] <nickrud> jon_, I use liferea when I use an aggregator
[02:40] <snowfaked> bbrazil: i don't, i rarely play anything. i was just interested whether i could abuse my work laptop and instlal some games ;)
[02:40] <daddius> damn
[02:40] <bbrazil> snowfaked: gltron
[02:40] <ompaul> chill, its all fun
[02:40] <jon_> ok. i'll try it. thanks, nickrud!
[02:40] <snowfaked> if i were to play something i could probably get gamecube
[02:40] <Phoul> umm
[02:40] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell donvella about ati
[02:40] <Phoul> Its locally on my computer
[02:40] <Phoul> I guess i should change the format..
[02:40] <nickrud> jon_, apt-cache search aggregator lists those, and some more
[02:40] <Phoul> im not sure how tho..
[02:40] <NickGarvey> snowfaked: mm.. wii...
[02:41] <nickrud> forgot blam
[02:41] <gnomefreak> wma=windows media audio i thought
[02:41] <outlawcrook> anyone have a clue asto what went wrong or what is going on.. :)
[02:41] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> you were right :p
[02:41] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: I believe thats what it is
[02:41] <spartas> so, I want to set up ntp on an internal network and I've already set up ntp-server for the connection to the internet server.  what do I need to change in ntp.conf to make ntp work within my network?
[02:41] <Phoul> gnomefreak: whats a converter?
[02:41] <jon_> ok. thnx, nickrud
[02:41] <nickrud> snowfaked, there are a multitude of games in the games section of synaptic
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Phoul: i dont know my moto is sc*** windows
[02:42] <carl> I'm having problems again >>;
[02:42] <DBO> the most entertaining of witch is kbounce!
[02:42] <snowfaked> nickrud: yep, but they are something like kill bill and 1000 tetris games and so on :)
[02:42] <HymnToLife> Phoul> on windows, iTunes does it
[02:42] <NickGarvey> Carl: lay em on me
[02:42] <gnomefreak> !wma
[02:42] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ^^^ read that Phoul
[02:42] <carl> I can't play my music
[02:42] <carl> I get more errors
[02:42] <gnomefreak> carl: mp3?
[02:42] <carl> Mhm
[02:42] <nickrud> snowfaked, and a flight simulator, some adventure games in the sierra mode, and, and, and :)
[02:42] <ubuntugamer___> Does someone know a really on-line game for ubuntu ?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> go to the site above carl  the same one i gave Phoul
[02:42] <snowfaked> nickrud: maybe if i could get kings quest 7 run on linux....
[02:43] <NickGarvey> carl: paste errors
[02:43] <NickGarvey> carl: if more than 2 lines use pastebin
[02:43] <p47> I can't see the compiz file in gconf-editror, do you know why ? I have all installed in mi machine
[02:43] <snowfaked> dosbox probably runs warcraft2 well in linux also? i promisedto play it against my friend some day :)
[02:43] <p47> Help me !!!!!
[02:43] <gnomefreak> p47: did you try #ubuntu-xgl
[02:43] <Flannel> p47: this is in dapper?  And, don't be annoying.
[02:43] <carl> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[02:43] <snowfaked> i don't even know what games i'm looking for as i play so few games :)
[02:43] <HymnToLife> snowfaked> wine runs warcraft 3 pretty well
[02:44] <HymnToLife> but you have to have strong hardware
[02:44] <ubuntugamer___> Does anypne have a suggestion ??????????????
[02:44] <p47> Yes but Any person anwer me ! :(
[02:44] <nickrud> snowfaked, apt-cache says there are some engines for running sierra games, maybe you can import the data
[02:44] <gnomefreak> ca/opme
[02:44] <tahorg> p47: because you have to launch compiz with gconf option one time first
[02:44] <nickrud> snowfaked, frozenbubble
[02:44] <gnomefreak> p47: either #ubuntu+1
[02:44] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[02:44] <gnomefreak>  p47 or #ubuntu-xgl
[02:44] <snowfaked> nickrud: i looked at some sierra engine, but it was for old sierra games only. like kings quest 3/4 and such
[02:44] <nickrud> snowfaked, ah. OK
[02:44] <Flannel> ubuntugamer___: wolfenstein : Enemy Territory is an online game.
[02:45] <outlawcrook> nvidia help please
[02:45] <carl> "Totem could not play 'file:///home/carl/Desktop/Music/Dragonforce_Sonic_Firestorm/01 - My Spirit Will Go On.mp3'."
[02:45] <NickGarvey> carl: have the plugins?
[02:45] <snowfaked> maybe i'll get some cheap tv-input (are there any) and that gamecube :)
[02:45] <HymnToLife> !tel carl about mp3
[02:45] <NickGarvey> !tell carl about mp3
[02:45] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[02:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell carl about restricted
[02:45] <carl> Didn't know I needed 'em on a fresh Ubuntu install
[02:45] <carl> >>;
[02:45] <HymnToLife> damn
[02:45] <NickGarvey> HymnToLife: I win!
[02:45] <p47> tahorg : Whit gconf option ? I don't understand you, could you explainme please how ?
[02:45] <NickGarvey> carl: read the article, they are proprietary, they can't include them
[02:45] <p47> Flannel Yes Is a dapper !
[02:45] <HymnToLife> but not now
[02:45] <Flannel> p47: this is NOT the channel for this.  #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-xgl
[02:45] <outlawcrook> !tell outlawcrook about nvidia
[02:46] <gnomefreak> p47: i will ask you once more go to #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-xgl
[02:46] <ompaul> spartas, sorry I forgot your question - then I remembered it- all the info you need is in /usr/share/doc/ntp-doc/html but you need to install >>ntp-doc<< first
[02:46] <carl> Wait, repeat that, but 'dumbed' down, please.
[02:46] <gnomefreak> carl: look at your pms
[02:46] <NthDegree> does anyone know how to disable services that aren't in the basic services section
[02:47] <snowfaked> hmh. gamecube + mario something = 90 euros
[02:47] <sorush20> dose dapper use a udev script?
[02:47] <HymnToLife> snowfaked> Mario Kart DD kicks ass
[02:47] <gnomefreak> sorush20: yes #ubuntu+1 please iirc it does
[02:47] <ubuntugamer___> Someone from Brazil here ?????????
[02:47] <bbrazil> !br
[02:47] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:47] <gnomefreak> ubuntugamer___: #ubuntu-br
[02:47] <spartas> k thx, ompaul
[02:47] <ompaul> NthDegree, there are no services pointing to the outside world in a basic install, but if you install a service it runs, install package "bum" to manage this (boot up manager)
[02:47] <nickrud> NthDegree, System-Admin-Services
[02:48] <blind> giggle.
[02:48] <outlawcrook> ok i did all that was said on the page for the nvidia cards
[02:48] <NthDegree> i'm fairly new to linux so that would be 'apt-get install bum' right?
[02:48] <nickrud> NthDegree, of course, you may need to install bum to see that, I don't remember :)
[02:48] <outlawcrook> gave me error API mismatch
[02:48] <blind> sudo, NthDegree
[02:48] <snowfaked> HymnToLife: yep it was mario cart. too bad it was earlier 70 euros with mario football
[02:48] <outlawcrook> said the nvidia kernel module is version 1.0.7174 but this module is version 1.0.7667
[02:48] <snowfaked> although 20 ueros doesn't matter :)
[02:48] <blind> `sudo apt-get install bum`
[02:49] <outlawcrook> could not get back in
[02:49] <outlawcrook> so i reinstalled os
[02:49] <HymnToLife> snowfaked> I used to have Mario Tennis on the N64, great too
[02:49] <ompaul> NthDegree, and you need universe repos installed  if this has not been done already do this >>/msg ubotu universe<<
[02:49] <||arifaX> I've connected my smartphone successfully via synce- how to acces the filesystem now? google didn't help as expected
[02:50] <snowfaked> too bad i'm working on 12 hours shifts, i don't have much time to play on consoles
[02:50] <carl> I'm having another problem with enabling free formats
[02:50] <carl> Says the 0.8 version is obsolete
[02:50] <HymnToLife> carl > running Dapper ?
[02:50] <ubuntugamer___> Brazil
[02:50] <carl> Whut?
[02:50] <Flannel> ubuntugamer___: #ubuntu-br
[02:50] <outlawcrook> can someone help me on this please
[02:50] <p47> tahorg are you still here ?
[02:51] <ompaul> ubuntugamer___,         >>/join #ubuntu-br<<
[02:51] <tahorg> p47: yes but you should join #ubuntu-xgl
[02:51] <gnomefreak> without hte >><<
[02:51] <tahorg> ubuntugamer___: tecla /join #ubuntu-br
[02:51] <gnomefreak> the*
[02:51] <NthDegree> brb just gonna reboot
[02:51] <CyaniCs|empire> have you run the apt-get update to get the newest versions ?#outlawcrook
[02:51] <snowfaked> whee, i'm getting a free book from ms press \o/
[02:51] <ompaul> gnomefreak, :)
[02:51] <gnomefreak> ompaul: ;)
[02:51] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:51] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:51] <blind> blind: :)
[02:51] <snowfaked> maintaining and setting up windows network infrastructure or something. part of the mcsa exams
[02:52] <p47> ok thank's tahorg
[02:52] <carl> I tried the dapper one, says couldn't find the package
[02:52] <FireGirl> hey I have a question about ubuntu..it never really states.. in just about any linux distro.. the redistribution rights.
[02:52] <gnomefreak> p47: we tell you to go to other channels because they can help you better(more) with it because this channel is for warty,hoary, and breezy only for now
[02:53] <ompaul> carl, dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1
[02:53] <nickrud> outlawcrook, first thing you need to learn, is if you screw up your X config (you can't get a graphical desktop) is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:53] <FireGirl> I would like to know.. if I can sell pc's on ebay preloaded with ubuntu or does this break any laws
[02:53] <ompaul> warty is gone please upgrade :)
[02:53] <nickrud> outlawcrook, no reinstall required
[02:53] <tahorg> FireGirl: nope
[02:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell FireGirl about gpl
[02:53] <carl> erm...okay...
[02:53] <gnomefreak> ofcourse not ubotu :(
[02:53] <tahorg> FireGirl: you're welcome to do so :)
[02:53] <FireGirl> really?
[02:53] <FireGirl> thats awesome
[02:53] <ompaul> firegirl  give it to anyone you like
[02:53] <gnomefreak> FireGirl: yes you can sell pcs with ubuntu installed
[02:54] <FireGirl> i just wanted to make sure it wasnt illegal before i done it
[02:54] <gnomefreak> FireGirl: i suggest reading the gpl
[02:54] <FireGirl> i did read the gpl.. it doesnt make sense really
[02:54] <lendyl> help
[02:54] <gnomefreak> nickrud: you have to give the person a way to get it either with it or download it
[02:54] <NickGarvey> FireGirl: doesn't?
[02:54] <tahorg> gnomefreak: if she ships the instalation cd with the pc there is no problem for sure
[02:54] <NickGarvey> lendyl: how can we help you?
[02:54] <FireGirl> i think it means i can do it.. if I give open source.. and acknowledge that I dont take any credit for the software
[02:54] <gnomefreak> FireGirl: than try ubuntu.com
[02:54] <nickrud> gnomefreak, any source is ok then. Seems reasonable
[02:55] <ompaul> firegirl if you want to talk about the GPL its not core to this channel take it to #ubuntu-offtopic and I will be glad to talk about it
[02:55] <Flannel> FireGirl: no, not that.  It means you can't CLOSE your source.
[02:55] <gnomefreak> nickrud: yes as long as its the source for ubuntu (if sending ubuntu)
[02:55] <tahorg> FireGirl: well, burn an iso or ship the pc with the copy. Everything's alright
[02:55] <tahorg> s/or/and/
[02:55] <gnomefreak> as long as she gives them the cd shes free and clear ;)
[02:56] <Sanne> FireGirl, pay attention to any non-free or restricted packages. Usually you won't be allowed to pre install those, I believe, like, for example, the binary nvidia/ati drivers.
[02:58] <jerware> fellaz.
[02:59] <lendyl> nickgarvy: i had a problem, about downloading.... i download a file in the web then after that a save it in my desktop then when i tried open it theres this popup icon telling "plese enter your password to run/usr/bin/gnome-app-install  '/home lendyl/desktop/chikka'
[02:59] <tahorg> FireGirl: you can even ask the cd for free on the net
[02:59] <lendyl> what should i do?
[02:59] <jerware> i think i have a hardware issue.  my eth0 is no longer recognized, but a few hours ago i had a working network conection.
[03:00] <HymnToLife> lendyl> what kind of file did you download ?
[03:00] <tahorg> jerware: sudo ifconfig eth0 say something ?
[03:00] <tahorg> say
[03:00] <tahorg> s
[03:00] <jerware> i remember walking with my laptop in the rain when it stopped being recognized, but it worked a few times after that.
[03:01] <jerware> tahorg: eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[03:01] <ompaul> jerware, check that it is still seated correctly in the motherboard, it may actually be faulty, and try this command >>sudo dhclient << its a little rough but might work
[03:01] <tahorg> ompaul: no, it won't work now
[03:01] <ompaul> jerware, the only time I have had issues with eth0 is when I had to replace one
[03:01] <jerware> ompaul: it is integeraged in my laptop
[03:01] <ompaul> ooch
[03:02] <tahorg> jerware: lspci | grep -i ethernet
[03:02] <siriusnova> anyone here use the open sound system drivers instead of alsa?
[03:02] <jerware> but it worked this morning, strange
[03:02] <tahorg> jerware: anything ?
[03:02] <siriusnova> my mic doesnt work and the alsa guys can't help me :(
[03:02] <jerware> im working off my wireless nic now.
[03:02] <tahorg> jerware: what's the model of your network adaptator
[03:03] <jerware> interesting; the result of taht comand shows 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705M Gigabit Ethernet (rev 01)
[03:03] <swissbear> hi , I am this problem : I can't play wmv and asf files
[03:03] <jerware> so it's not recognized by ifconfig, but it is by lspci
[03:03] <ompaul> !tell swissbear about restricted
[03:04] <swissbear> already download w32codec
[03:04] <tahorg> jerware: try, sudo modprobe tg3
[03:04] <tahorg> jerware: then ifup eth0
[03:04] <jerware> tahorg:  no results with sudo modprobe tg3
[03:04] <tahorg> jerware: dmesg | tail
[03:05] <tahorg> gives you something about the ether controler ?
[03:05] <tahorg> jerware: try the ifconfig command I already gave you
[03:05] <tahorg> jerware: to see if eth0 is up again
[03:05] <jerware> smsg | tail  says http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Z4U8Kl40.html
[03:06] <swissbear> any idea for play wmv?
[03:06] <jerware> ifconfig still says eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[03:06] <DBO> !restricted
[03:06] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:06] <tahorg> looks like the driver is already loaded
[03:06] <jerware> swissbear: i can play wmv
[03:06] <jerware> down load Mplayer
[03:06] <tahorg> jerware: try a ifconfig -a and look at the ethx inteface
[03:06] <tahorg> s
[03:06] <swissbear> I did
[03:06] <tahorg> jerware: perhaps it's eth2 ou eth3
[03:07] <jerware> you might need win32 codecs swissbeaer
[03:07] <DBO> swissbear, so long as the wmv does not have an encrypted stream you will be able to play it (after you isntall the restricted formats)
[03:07] <justin__> hello
[03:07] <DBO> justin__, hello
[03:07] <swissbear> I have w32 codec
[03:07] <DBO> swissbear, it sounds like your wmv stream is DRM'd
[03:07] <justin__> hey do anyone know how i can update Firefox  bec i cant download anything
[03:07] <HymnToLife> swissbear> then you need a player that can use them like Mplayer or xine
[03:07] <jerware> eth1 and lo are the only listed in ifconfig
[03:08] <swissbear> what is drm?
[03:08] <tahorg> jerware: try a sudo rmmod tg3 && sudo modprobe tg3
[03:08] <HymnToLife> !tell justin__ about ff1.5
[03:08] <tahorg> jerware: to unload and reload the driver
[03:08] <HymnToLife> !drm
[03:08] <ubotu> HymnToLife: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:08] <jerware> but ifconfig -a shows a sit0
[03:08] <carl__> I need help instaling a .bin file
[03:08] <carl__> >>;
[03:08] <tahorg> jerware: after that try a ifconfig eth0 again
[03:08] <jerware> ok
[03:08] <perry753> justin__, Please use a real Linux distribution.
[03:08] <swissbear> I have mplayer
[03:08] <justin__> i did
[03:08] <lendyl> ihymntolife:ts a for free something that i could connect my pc to mibile
[03:09] <DBO> justin__, you have to temporarly chown ff1.5's directory in opt, then chown it back to root after the update
[03:09] <HymnToLife> ?
[03:09] <perry753> nick125, Hi
[03:09] <jerware> still same results with sudo rmmod tg3 && sudo modprobe tg3 ; ifconfig -a  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/vKXlr281.html
[03:10] <jerware> i guess i need a new nic
[03:10] <jerware> are there any pcmcia nic
[03:10] <Nullified> !java
[03:10] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:10] <justin__> ty
[03:10] <jerware> with a linux compatable driver?
[03:10] <jerware> with a linux compatable driver?
[03:10] <tahorg> jerware: well il looks bad.
[03:10] <jerware> yea
[03:10] <carl__> Can somebody help me install a .bin file that was downloaded to my desktop?
[03:10] <tahorg> jerware: what did you do ?
[03:10] <nickrud> Nullified, getting the java deb from the seveas repo (!javadebs) is the easiest
[03:10] <tahorg> jerware: do you have ndiswrapper loaded ?
[03:10] <btwill> hi
[03:10] <ompaul> carl__, what is it for?
[03:10] <kbrooks> hmm. who is nick125
[03:11] <jerware> tahorg: whats ndiswrapper? or how can i tell
[03:11] <carl__> RealPlayer10
[03:11] <jerware> i think so
[03:11] <kbrooks> aha! a bot!
[03:11] <tahorg> jerware: well, first, what did you do ?
[03:11] <btwill> hi nick125
[03:11] <perry753> nick125 is a gentoo user
[03:11] <tahorg> jerware: lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[03:11] <perry753> he will bite you
[03:11] <nick125> kbrooks: I'm just here to watch perry753 get kickbanned..
[03:11] <tahorg> jerware: to see if ndiswrapper is loaded
[03:11] <tahorg> jerware: which is baad.
[03:11] <kbrooks> perry753: be quiet
[03:11] <tahorg> jerware: it's a centrino 2 right ?
[03:11] <ompaul> !tell carl__ about restricted
[03:11] <carl__> >>;
[03:11] <ompaul> carl__, that will tell you how to install that package
[03:12] <ompaul> carl__, the link that the bot just sent you
[03:12] <jerware> tahorg: i was walking in the rain while playing mp3's on my laptop
[03:12] <jerware> a drop could have hit the rj-45 connector, but it worked a few days later, now it's down again
[03:12] <jerware> doh nothing from  lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[03:12] <jerware> i should look up how to install it
[03:12] <jerware> a centrino, yes
[03:13] <perry753> kbrooks, why?
[03:13] <perry753> you hatin???
[03:13] <tahorg> jerware: it's strange because lspci sees your card
[03:13] <kbrooks> Seveas: i have a reason to believe that perry753 is trolling on nick125
[03:13] <ompaul> jerware, why not use the pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org for more than two lines of keep all the text on as few a lines as possible :-)
[03:13] <tahorg> jerware: so it's on the bus answering
[03:13] <perry753> O.o
[03:13] <tahorg> jerware: but the driver ignores it
[03:13] <nickrud> heh. As long as their useful ...
[03:13] <h3h_timo> why do i need a password to access a samba share that doesnt require a password
[03:14] <nickrud> s/their/they are/
[03:14] <kbrooks> Seveas: Please act on this ASAP
[03:14] <moua> hi
[03:14] <tahorg> jerware: the problem seems to be hardware
[03:14] <h3h_timo> nevermind
[03:15] <tahorg> jerware: you already tried a reboot ? to see if a bios reset could fix it
[03:15] <kbrooks> nick125: he left
[03:16] <nick125> kbrooks: yeah, he said he was coming here to tell everyone that asked for help to use a real distro..I just wanted to see him get k/bed
[03:17] <high-freq> !ati
[03:17] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:17] <kbrooks> nick125: K
[03:17] <tahorg> nick125: he's done it only once
[03:17] <luke> hello
[03:17] <tahorg> (that I saw)
[03:17] <luke> can anybody help me with a Wine problem?
[03:17] <tahorg> stop drinking
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[03:17] <rbrt> muhahah.
[03:17] <nickrud> rflol
[03:17] <rbrt> :)
[03:17] <CyaniCs|empire> lol
[03:17] <Phoenix92x> hi, Im running dapper drake with kernel version 2.6.15-22-386 on a Dell Latitude D610 with a Radeon X300 graphics card. I'm having a problem getting translucency to work correctly. Im using the latest fglrx driver, but when I enable translucency the display is...well...corrupted is the best word for it. Can anyone help me?
[03:17] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[03:17] <NickGarvey> luke: heh, what do you need
[03:17] <CyaniCs|empire> #Phoenix92x move to the dapper channel
[03:18] <ompaul> CyaniCs|empire,  if I may ask why do you preface all lines with a #?
[03:18] <HymnToLife> ompaul> they're commented out, meaning that we shouldn't care about them
[03:19] <ompaul> HymnToLife, stop it
[03:19] <bimberi> lol HymnToLife
[03:19] <NickGarvey> heh I think it might be his client
[03:19] <Phoenix92x> is it #dapper ? because that has no one in it
[03:19] <NickGarvey> Phoenix92x: #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <CyaniCs|E> #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <HymnToLife> it's #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <nalioth> Phoenix92x: #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <Phoenix92x> thanks
[03:19] <NickGarvey> I win
[03:19] <rbrt> Hmm. I think it is #ubuntu+1 ;-)
[03:20] <CyaniCs|E> lol
[03:20] <CyaniCs|E> DIBS
[03:20] <rbrt> *g*
[03:20] <daryl_> What is the command to reconfigure my xorg.conf file?
[03:20] <bimberi> !xorg
[03:20] <ubotu> xorg is, like, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[03:20] <tahorg> vim ?
[03:20] <nalioth> !xcfg
[03:20] <ubotu> [xcfg]  to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:20] <NickGarvey> daryl_: dpkg-recon- nevermind heh
[03:20] <rbrt> nano!
[03:20] <tahorg> oops I did it again
[03:20] <nalioth> bimberi: mine is shorter
[03:20] <rbrt> ;)
[03:21] <nickrud> bimberi's is better nalioth :P
[03:21] <tahorg> nalioth: generaly people don't say those thing.
[03:21] <tahorg> s
[03:21] <tahorg> jerware: so
[03:21] <nickrud> o.O
[03:21] <tahorg> jerware: anything new with your broadcom gigabit ?
[03:22] <ompaul> tahorg, I think they know each other, just a little bit
[03:24] <tahorg> bimberi: I don't know what you mean.
[03:24] <tahorg> bimberi: ;)
[03:24] <jramsey> !bison
[03:24] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jramsey
[03:24] <ompaul> !info bison
[03:24] <ubotu> bison: (A parser generator that is compatible with YACC), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:2.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 285 kB, Installed size: 1104 kB
[03:25] <jramsey> ompaul, txs
[03:25] <ompaul> jramsey, np
[03:26] <icyvapor> anyone has seen this kind of error message before?
[03:26] <icyvapor> ** (network-admin:7801): CRITICAL **: gst_xml_element_destroy: assertion `node != NULL' failed
[03:26] <HymnToLife> it doesn't look good
[03:27] <jramsey> icyvapor, what component gen'ed the error?
[03:27] <icyvapor> well.. it's not a major thing.. just seems my network config doesn't save...
[03:27] <icyvapor> network-admin
[03:29] <hou5ton> Is it very risky to go ahead and upgrade to Dapper now?
[03:30] <HymnToLife> two weeks before release, I think it's pretty solid
[03:30] <chowells> works for me
[03:30] <icyvapor> I'm using a wireless router.. the SSID is plain text instead of Hex.. by default Ubentu use Hex, so each time I boot up it, I have to manually set the 'network-admin'
[03:30] <tahorg> hou5ton: perhaps some minor problems
[03:31] <tahorg> icyvapor: ssid ?
[03:31] <tahorg> icyvapor: you mean wep key
[03:31] <tahorg> no ?
[03:31] <icyvapor> because my config doesn's seem to save ..
[03:32] <icyvapor> sorry it's ESSID
[03:32] <tahorg> ESSID is a string
[03:33] <tahorg> hex or whatever
[03:33] <tahorg> it should work
[03:34] <hou5ton> so ... as I understand it ... in /etc/apt/sources.lst, everywhere it says "breezy" ... like in "breezy-backports" ... I change it to "dapper-backports"  ... correct?
[03:34] <Abnix> umm, silly question I think, but what do I have to install here to get 'make' ? (please be specific)
[03:34] <jramsey> Abnix, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:35] <Abnix> ty
[03:35] <jramsey> Abnix, yw
[03:35] <Flannel> hou5ton: there are no dapper backports, yet.  so, comment those lines out.  But yeah, all the breezys become dappers.
[03:35] <icyvapor> well.. then I'm confused more. Each time it won't work by default.. I have to open up the network-admin and open the interface properties for current connection... in it, changing "key type" from Hex to Plain(Ascii) does the trick.. but I've no idea why
[03:35] <icyvapor> although I'm not using a WEP
[03:36] <cjfp> my glxgears doesn't report fps, any ideas?  glxinfo works and DRI is yes.  using breezy.
[03:36] <jramsey> !info LZO
[03:36] <tahorg> icyvapor: mmh, something might be wrong in you configuration
[03:36] <jramsey> !info LZ0
[03:36] <hou5ton> Flannel:  ok ... that leaves security, multiverse and universe ... sound right?
[03:37] <Flannel> and main, hou5ton
[03:37] <icyvapor> yea.. probably..
[03:37] <tahorg> icyvapor: try to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:37] <Flannel> !tell cjfp about glxgears
[03:37] <tahorg> icyvapor: and remove every 'wireless-key' line
[03:37] <jramsey> !info ruby
[03:37] <ubotu> ruby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[03:37] <tahorg> icyvapor: you are using an open access point ?
[03:38] <cjfp> Flannel: it would help if there were also a man page!?!
[03:38] <basilio> hi all
[03:38] <icyvapor> tahorg: yea.. I will have a look at it and see what I can change, thx
[03:39] <basilio> im a newbie in all these linux
[03:39] <basilio> if there any way that i can copy a .doc from my winxp partition to my linux partition?
[03:39] <Syco54645> i was wondering how i can disable the ctrl alt + thing in xorg,
[03:39] <Abnix> ok, where would I put a command that I want to execute before X attempts to start?
[03:40] <pyrotic> Gentoo Guru's ?
[03:40] <Abnix> are you *trying* to start a fight?
[03:40] <pyrotic> me?
[03:40] <richiefrich> pyrotic, ?
[03:40] <jramsey> anyone know what the LZO library is?  i need it to build grub
[03:40] <pyrotic> richiefrich hey
[03:41] <richiefrich> pyrotic,  what u want with gentoo
[03:41] <pyrotic> richiefrich was going to install it on my other drive, but I don't even know where to begin...
[03:41] <chowells> jramsey: apt-cache search lzo
[03:41] <richiefrich> pyrotic, i can help
[03:41] <richiefrich> pyrotic, come to my channel
[03:41] <pyrotic> richiefrich k.
[03:41] <cjfp> ok, now zsnes hangs my desktop when i try to enter full screen.
[03:41] <pyrotic> richiefrich invite me.
[03:42] <high-freq> ok...can someone plz tell me why lspci isn't listing *any* of my pcmcia cards?
[03:42] <jramsey> chowells, txs
[03:42] <high-freq> i just did a fresh install..got xorg up...so now what?
[03:42] <cjfp> correction, it dies and i have to kill it from the console, and then my desktop resolution is stuck at 1024x768 and i still have to kill X.
[03:42] <jramsey> chowells, the pkg name is lzop ... that's why i couldnt find it
[03:42] <agraupe> is there a way to test if my wifi card is working without having an AP nearby?  I want to make sure my card is working before I spend money on a wireless router
[03:43] <high-freq> do lspci see if it detects it
[03:43] <chowells> jramsey: are you sure it's not liblzo1 and liblzo-dev
[03:43] <gdb> My X is stuck at 640x480 and it's the only resolution offered on the control panel for it.  How can I get in there and enable it to run 1024x768?
[03:43] <chowells> high-freq: because they aren't PCI devices
[03:43] <jramsey> chowells, must be somethign else because ./configure still whines about it ... lemme try that
[03:43] <high-freq> gdb: u can edit the xorg.conf yourself or redo    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:43] <gdb> Thanks, high-freq.
[03:43] <high-freq> chowells: ok...whts ocmmand to check it then?
[03:44] <chowells> high-freq: 'cardctl status'
[03:44] <high-freq> k
[03:44] <jramsey> chowells, yep liblzo-dev ... ty
[03:45] <high-freq> chowells: ok says 5v 16 bit PC card... function 0: [ready] 
[03:45] <bur[n] er> can anyone recommend a gui .wav to .mp3 encoder?
[03:45] <chowells> cardctl config too, maybe. depends what you're looking for
[03:45] <high-freq> chowells: on website for the specs it says it uses the prism 2.5 driver
[03:46] <chowells> bur[n] er: KAudioCreator can do that I think
[03:46] <propheteer> bur[n] er, i'd suggest grip or soundjuicer, and use FLAC or vorbis.
[03:46] <bur[n] er> how about a gtk one? ;)
[03:46] <chowells> no idea
[03:46] <propheteer> bur[n] er, those two are gtk so you don't have to deal with ugliness.
[03:46] <bur[n] er> flac and/or vorbis don't work on my car mp3 cd player or i'd be all about ogg :)
[03:46] <maik> moin+
[03:46] <bur[n] er> sound juicer won't do it
[03:46] <bur[n] er> I'll try grip though
[03:47] <propheteer> what do you mean it won't do it?
[03:47] <BrunnoPE> i want to download the latest version of dapper but i don't know if it's the "beta 2" or the "flight 7", anyone can help me ?
[03:47] <bur[n] er> sound juicer only goes from cd
[03:47] <high-freq> chowells: said socket 0:  Vcc 5.0v  Vpp1 5.0v  Vpp2 5.0v
[03:47] <bur[n] er> as far as I can tell
[03:47] <chowells> high-freq: so what's the problem?
[03:47] <high-freq> chowells: for the cardctl config
[03:47] <gdb> high-freq: Thanks for the tip.  That dpkg-reconfigure command is what I was looking for.
[03:47] <maik> some german people around?
[03:47] <propheteer> bur[n] er, what application is this for?  just for listening to music off your computer?
[03:47] <propheteer> maik, nein.
[03:47] <high-freq> chowells: how do i enable it?
[03:47] <maik> lol propheter
[03:47] <propheteer> bur[n] er, unless you have some specific need for mp3 format, i would avoid it at all costs.
[03:47] <bur[n] er> propheteer: i'm going to convert a bunch of .wav's I have to .mp3 so I can burn them to an mp3 cd for use in my car
[03:47] <propheteer> oh.. :(
[03:48] <propheteer> sucks that more car cd players don't support vorbis.
[03:48] <bur[n] er> i've never seen an ogg cd player :\
[03:48] <bur[n] er> i know
[03:48] <propheteer> grip is great.
[03:48] <high-freq> chowells: been workin on this for a few days now ;(  can't seem to get it working... its even a prism2.5 card so i dunno
[03:48] <propheteer> you can have it use lame.
[03:48] <bur[n] er> i've used grip in the past
[03:48] <chowells> high-freq: have you tried modprobe'ing the right driver?
[03:48] <bur[n] er> how do I get it to convert the .wav's I have?
[03:48] <maik> i`ve got a problem !i`am an bloody ubuntu starter
[03:49] <high-freq> chowells: which ones tho... prism_cs  says it uses the prism 2.x
[03:49] <maik> and i want to know how to install something!!??
[03:49] <atomic0x> Hey ladies and gent's.  Has anyone installed flight7 onto a usb drive?  I'm having trouble booting it from mine :(
[03:49] <chowells> high-freq: not sure, sorry
[03:49] <jramsey> maik, what?
[03:49] <high-freq> chowells: ok ;(
[03:49] <hyphenated> atomic0x: #ubuntu+1
[03:49] <Abnix> ok, where would I put a command that I want to execute before X attempts to start?
[03:50] <moua> hi, i can't log into root nor type sudo, however i can be root if i log into a classic user and type su
[03:50] <bur[n] er> propheteer: grip has the same issue as sound juicer, I can't seem to get it to load my .wav's to encode them
[03:50] <CyaniCs|E> in "/etc/init.d"
[03:50] <mcr> It seems that I've purchased what I thought was a hard PCI modem, but may in fact be an LTmodem. I'm willing to try ltmodem, etc. if I can get it easily on ubuntu. This is for a friends' computer (rescuing him from XP).
[03:50] <moua> i have "bad password"
[03:50] <propheteer> bur[n] er, oh!  yeah...they are geared toward cd ripping.
[03:50] <propheteer> bur[n] er, then why don't you just run something from the command line?
[03:50] <propheteer> just use lame.
[03:51] <jramsey> xbox_guru, u get ur wireless set up?
[03:51] <propheteer> lame <settings> *.wav
[03:51] <xbox_guru> jramsey, no I didn't
[03:51] <jramsey> xbox_guru, ahhh sry 2 hear that
[03:51] <xbox_guru> I'm putting ndiswrapper back onto the compuer
[03:51] <xbox_guru> *computer
[03:51] <bur[n] er> propheteer: will that work like this... 01.wav -> 01.mp3 and 02.wav -> 02.mp3?
[03:52] <xbox_guru> updating it
[03:52] <xbox_guru> jramsey: what do I need to run before I extract the file
[03:52] <CyaniCs|E> #bur[n] er renaming the file? or converting to mp3?
[03:52] <jramsey> xbox_guru, what file? u mean the ndiswrapper module?
[03:53] <xbox_guru> yes, from the sourceforge website
[03:53] <xbox_guru> jramsey, I want to have the most upto date version
[03:54] <propheteer> bur[n] er, yeah
[03:54] <propheteer> after upgrading to dapper drake (what kind of animals is a drake?!) i can't use my sound or networking.
[03:55] <bur[n] er> propheteer: try using an older kernel?
[03:55] <shoofle> drake is a dragon or a duck
[03:55] <shoofle> of some kind
[03:55] <bur[n] er> propheteer: did you do a "hard" shutdown and leave it off for a sec?
[03:55] <swissbear> have I to restart after have installed nw codecs?
[03:55] <jramsey> xbox_guru, try this http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[03:55] <bur[n] er> swissbear: only the application
[03:56] <swissbear> it seams totem doesn't see the w32codecs
[03:56] <propheteer> hmm...the older kernel is a thought!
[03:56] <shoofle> everyone should read www.xkcd.com it's my brother's comic!
[03:58] <malegria> hi. i'm new to linux, trying ubuntu. one of those windows-questions (sorry): in windows' explorer there is a file tree on the left side that shows the folders while on the right side you can see subfolders and files. is there a way to have something similar in ubuntu (breezy badger, gnome)?
[03:59] <xbox_guru> brb
[03:59] <jramsey> malegria, did u check side pane
[03:59] <DBO> malegria, open your file browser in gnome, in the left panel you will see a pull down menu that probably says places, pull it down and select tree
[03:59] <robertj_> that side bar has a few different modes, change Places to "Tree"
[03:59] <malegria> Places?
[03:59] <jramsey> browser/view/side pane
[03:59] <malegria> ah, ok
[03:59] <jramsey> then do what robertj_ said
[04:00] <malegria> it's that easy...
[04:00] <malegria> thanks
[04:00] <jramsey> yw
[04:00] <DBO> its that easy =)
[04:00] <KaosX> any linux sysAdmins in here?
[04:00] <DBO> linux is the OS made for the people, by the people.  not for the money by the corporations =)
[04:00] <DBO> KaosX, I been called that before, whats your issue?
[04:01] <jramsey> and linux has no "gates", metaphorically speaking ;)
[04:01] <gamma> actually most of the linux advancements are corporate driven :P
[04:01] <DBO> gamma, shhhhhhhh
[04:01] <gamma> lol
[04:01] <malegria> next one: (how) can i change the standart folder for my files (the one that is opened when saving files and stuff)
[04:01] <KaosX> I have my final round interview with a large company on friday, Ive passed the windows and OS X ones with flying colors but Ive only really had my schooling on linux and not much else
[04:02] <KaosX> I wanted to know what you think are the most important things a linux admin should know
[04:02] <gamma> KaosX: never type rm -fr /
[04:02] <gamma> :D
[04:02] <jramsey> lol
[04:02] <userbn> lue
[04:02] <malegria> gamma: and what's that?
[04:02] <KaosX> lol
[04:02] <jramsey> malegria, forget that cmd
[04:03] <gamma> removes all the files on the filesystem.... never learn that
[04:03] <KaosX> i would NEVER do that
[04:03] <DBO> KaosX, self-confidence.  You wont ever know everything, but you know if you have to, you can figure it out.  Also knowing a good bit of LDAP + Samba is not a bad start
[04:03] <malegria> good to know...
[04:03] <gamma> yea I'd familiarize yourself with the syntax of the samba configs
[04:04] <KaosX> The want more of a linux tech, but I like to go a step up.
[04:04] <KaosX> Ive set up samba before, ill list that on my to do list to brush up on though
[04:04] <KaosX> anything else?
[04:05] <DBO> LDAP, ProFTPD, Samba, Kernel Compilation, EVMS, RAID...
[04:05] <xbox_guru> jramsey: I got It!!!!!!!!
[04:05] <KaosX> ive used VSFTPD
[04:05] <DBO> if you must =P
[04:05] <Abnix> ok, where would I put a command/entry that I want to execute before X attempts to start?
[04:05] <KaosX> lol
[04:05] <xbox_guru> DBO/jramsey: I got the drivers for my Network adapter to work!!!!
[04:06] <DBO> Also knowing SLES 9 is good because it has NDS KaosX
[04:06] <jramsey> xbox_guru, you da man!!!
[04:06] <KaosX> ohhh NDS   yeehaw
[04:06] <malegria> can anybody tell me how can i change the standart folder for my files (the one that is opened when saving files and stuff)?
[04:07] <KaosX> you want to go out of your home dir?
[04:07] <DBO> KaosX, NDS is fantastically better than AD and anyone who says otherwise is a microsoft lover =)
[04:07] <xbox_guru> jramsey: thanks, I got ndiswrapper to work, I finally figured out that you had to be in that directory to unpackage things
[04:07] <jramsey> xbox_guru, sure ... np and enjoy ur untethered network!!!!
[04:07] <nickrud> malegria, the best thing is to navigate to a dir you want to save files to and add it to your bookmarks
[04:08] <KaosX> ndiswrapper is pretyy damn slick
[04:08] <malegria> KaosX: i'm using a fat32 partitition for a whole bunch of files (still switching...)
[04:08] <KaosX> I think I might actually have SLES 9 laying around here somewhere
[04:08] <KaosX> well you could do one of a few things
[04:08] <xbox_guru> jramsey: thanks
[04:08] <KaosX> you can change your home directory
[04:08] <jramsey> xbox_guru, yw
[04:09] <jose> nas
[04:09] <xbox_guru> I'll talk to you guys in a little bit
[04:09] <KaosX> or (cmiiw guys) symlink your homedir to that fat32 drive
[04:09] <jramsey> xbox_guru, c ya
[04:09] <jonny> s
[04:09] <malegria> i think the bookmark-way should work
[04:10] <NeoGeo64> help, i installed the nvidia drivers, i set my xorg config to nvidia and now i cant boot x
[04:10] <cjfp> ok, how do i get a package from dapper drake, using breezy?
[04:10] <DBO> KaosX, if you want to continue your previous discussion, the best place will be #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:10] <KaosX> gotcha
[04:10] <cjfp> i would like a newer version of zsnes than 1.40.
[04:11] <malegria> KaosX: tried that but didnt make it
[04:11] <NeoGeo64> anyone know why i cant boot x?
[04:11] <KaosX> youll probably have to alter your profile then
[04:11] <PORDO> has anyone gotten an MVOX mv100 to work with linux?
[04:12] <malegria> in OOo for example, i always have to search the other folder.
[04:12] <outlawcrook> ok what was the fix comand again
[04:12] <outlawcrook> if i mess up x server i think it is
[04:12] <nickrud> outlawcrook, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <PORDO> Setting up libsexy2 (0.1.7-0ubuntu5) ... <--- ??
[04:12] <nickrud> outlawcrook, choose the nv driver
[04:12] <DBO> PORDO, got that one too, was curious like you
[04:13] <outlawcrook> what is this error i am getting
[04:13] <outlawcrook> Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:13] <DBO> PORDO, libsexy2 is a collection of gtk+ widgets
[04:14] <nickrud> malegria, ah, open office. A sec
[04:14] <NeoGeo64> help, i installed the nvidia drivers, i set my xorg config to nvidia and now i cant boot x
[04:15] <malegria> nickrud, there's a link to the "standart folder"
[04:15] <mnob07> hey
[04:15] <malegria> nickrud, but thats not where i have my files
[04:15] <nickrud> malegria, you want to go to the openoffice menu item tools->options. Under openoffice there's a Path setting, change MyDocuments
[04:15] <nickrud> malegria, open office will default to the path you set there
[04:17] <nickrud> outlawcrook, did you do an apt-get update first (that normally fixes that)
[04:17] <mnob07> you can ignore me if you want if this is a stupid question, but I need help remembering what my login for ubuntu is. I JUST installed it, all I rememebr is putting Mike as the user name and my normal password but when booting it up they won't log me on?
[04:17] <malegria> nickrud, perfect! thanks.
[04:17] <NeoGeo64> i assume no one can help me lol
[04:17] <NeoGeo64> oh well time to delete linux and go back to windows xp
[04:17] <outlawcrook> what nvidia driver sdo i get for the 6600GT?
[04:17] <nickrud> mnob07, are you making sure you use Mike, not mike
[04:17] <Mitsurugi> no don't
[04:17] <Mitsurugi> whats your probelem neogeo64?
[04:17] <outlawcrook> from the synaptic package manager
[04:17] <NeoGeo64> i installed the nvidia drivers, i set my xorg config to nvidia and now i cant boot x
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> mnob07: Well, that's a bit of a pickle.  I take it you're on another computer next to it?
[04:18] <NeoGeo64> i did everything right
[04:18] <Mitsurugi> i have that probelm too neogeo
[04:18] <Mitsurugi> what nvidia card are you using?
[04:18] <mnob07> omg "mike" worked thank you so much
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> mnob07: Have you tried both Mike and mike as usernames?
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> mnob07: Hah, nice.
[04:18] <mnob07> but I would swear that I capitalized the M during setup
[04:18] <NeoGeo64> ti 4200
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> mnob07: I'm not sure it lets you use capitals.
[04:19] <mnob07> ahhh
[04:19] <malegria> anybody knows a good wine-tutorial for beginners?
[04:19] <nickrud> it does, caps matter
[04:19] <DBO> NeoGeo64, have you looked at your xorg.0.log for clues?
[04:19] <outlawcrook> how do you do a apt-get update
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: So are you thinking he just forgot the cap?
[04:19] <DBO> outlawcrook, "sudo apt-get update"
[04:20] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, I saw Mike --> caps, issue :)
[04:20] <Mitsurugi> DBO; how do you look at that log?
[04:20] <NeoGeo64> DBO, no
[04:20] <NeoGeo64> i dont know how to do much command line stuff
[04:20] <NeoGeo64> heh
[04:20] <NeoGeo64> well i do but i dont like vim
[04:20] <mutrooo> hi guys
[04:21] <DBO> Mitsurugi and NeoGeo64, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[04:21] <mutrooo> this is my first time using ubuntu
[04:21] <DBO> mutrooo, welcome to a brave new world, but with more toast
[04:21] <nickrud> NeoGeo64, then use nano, it's easier
[04:21] <p47> why ubuntu show me this "compiz.real: No composite extension" ?
[04:21] <mutrooo> thanks DBO
[04:22] <DBO> p47, you have to add the compiz extension into your xorg.conf
[04:22] <DBO> !compiz
[04:22] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DBO
[04:22] <nickrud> p47, no clue, but the people on #ubuntu-glx may help
[04:22] <DBO> nuts... not factoid yet
[04:22] <mutrooo> where can i learn more about ubuntu
[04:22] <DBO> !wiki
[04:22] <nickrud> mutrooo, wiki.ubuntu.com & help.ubuntu.com
[04:22] <Mitsurugi> DBO: nothing shows up it just says (end) at the bottom
[04:22] <DBO> mutrooo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[04:23] <DBO> mutrooo, also feel free to ask any questions you have right here
[04:23] <p47> DBO how ? I don't undesrtand the people in xgl not answer ! and I trired to read and read adn read in the wiki's
[04:23] <DBO> Mitsurugi, that stinks
[04:23] <_JECKEL_> hello all
[04:23] <_JECKEL_> anybody got any suggestions for mouse icons?
[04:23] <mnob07> wow I could not have start out at ubuntu any n00bier trying to login for 10 minutes using "Mike" when the user name was "mike" XD now I have to get my Linksys WUSB54G USB wireless adapter working... but I don't have much time today so maybe tomorrow
[04:23] <nickrud> p47, then try #ubuntu+1. You won't get help with xgl here, no offence meant
[04:23] <Mitsurugi> DBO: what does it mean though?
[04:24] <xbox_guru> really quick, when I do my wep key, what settings should I use
[04:24] <xbox_guru> its 128kbit encription
[04:24] <MagicFa1> I wouldn't use WEP
[04:24] <nickrud> _JECKEL_, mouse icons?
[04:24] <DBO> p47, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267 its mentioned in the first post
[04:25] <p47> nickrud : the people in ubuntu+1 said me that I have to go to xgl and in cgl nothing answer me
[04:25] <_JECKEL_> yeah
[04:25] <Samuli^> mnob07, that's a curse word after an another :)
[04:25] <DBO> Mitsurugi, it means its bailing really early on
[04:25] <_JECKEL_> wanna change the look of the pointer and such
[04:25] <KaosX> Well Im off to try to shrink my hfs partition and install ubuntu onto my ibook
[04:25] <Samuli^> usb, wireless, eek.
[04:25] <p47> I will read DBO TAHNK'S
[04:25] <nickrud> p47, well, xgl is pretty much a toy right now. Not suprising
[04:25] <xbox_guru> when I put in the wep key, what should I do, Plain or hexidecimal
[04:25] <mnob07> uh oh...
[04:25] <DBO> nickrud, you mispelled lifestyle
[04:25] <outlawcrook> so do i use the k7 for instalation or what
[04:25] <outlawcrook> seeing as i am 64bit
[04:25] <mnob07> well alledgedly the linsys should work... somehow
[04:25] <Mitsurugi> DBO: dang I must have my PCI number wrong then.... I thought I had it right
[04:25] <outlawcrook> running the 64bit version of this os
[04:26] <mutrooo> thanks DBO
[04:26] <Kr0ntab> sup folks
[04:26] <DBO> Mitsurugi, you can just take that part out, its not needed =)
[04:26] <Samuli^> outlawcrook, you might be better off with the regular i386
[04:26] <nickrud> outlawcrook, if I may, it's a waste of time running the 64bit version if you want most video and internet flash and the like to work
[04:27] <PORDO> can someone help me with this, and maybe tell me what might be causing my logins to fail? http://rafb.net/paste/results/aenmuV79.html
[04:27] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[04:28] <_JECKEL_> ok...can anybody tell me of a good IRC program that I could make transparent and all that nifty eye candy stuff?
[04:28] <PORDO> bitchx in your terminal.
[04:28] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, XChat can do partial transparency
[04:28] <nickrud> DBO, I never misspell lifestyle, I own that
[04:28] <B0FH> !sources
[04:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:29] <_JECKEL_> I should probably go get bitchx >_>
[04:29] <ubuntu_> what up everybody
[04:29] <ubuntu_> just playin with my ubuntu live
[04:29] <PORDO> ALSA lib pcm.c:1972:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Invalid type for PCM iec958 definition (id: iec958, value: cards.pcm.iec958)
[04:29] <ubuntu_> yep
[04:29] <nickrud> ubuntu_, welcome to the niche :)
[04:29] <wizzlefish> For some reason, Ubuntu runned extremely slow when I opened the GIMP. I had XMMS running, Firefox, a few File Managers, and gedit. Is there a way to speed it up?
[04:30] <PORDO> wizzlefish is this with the live cd or an install?
[04:30] <wizzlefish> install
[04:30] <ubuntu_> i  like ubuntu but XP is all ive ever used i dunno if i could change
[04:30] <PORDO> wizzlefish how fast is your proc?
[04:30] <wizzlefish> ubuntu_: you can change - I'll teach you anything (that I know) - from noob to noob :)
[04:30] <PORDO> ubuntu_ please give ubuntu a try.  you might want to change the default appearance a tad, but it's so worth it.
[04:30] <Samuli^> ubuntu, you could have both.
[04:31] <PORDO> you will hate windows when you've used it for a month.
[04:31] <wizzlefish> PORDO: I have a 1.2Ghz Intel M processor, I believe
[04:31] <_JECKEL_> Yeah..Ubuntu's gnome theme at first looks like ass vomit
[04:31] <wizzlefish> amen to that
[04:31] <PORDO> wizzlefish that's weird then.  that makes no sense to me, but i'm no expert.
[04:31] <PORDO> my system is very fast.
[04:31] <Samuli^> It's not THAT bad.
[04:31] <nickrud> ubuntu_, it's about finding out what you need, and seeing if ubuntu will provide that usefulness
[04:31] <_JECKEL_> it's crap brown
[04:31] <_JECKEL_> it's bad
[04:31] <wizzlefish> I like Tango icons
[04:31] <PORDO> _JECKEL_ it's terrible isn't it.
[04:31] <mindamp> im having problems compiling cups-pdf from source... it cant find alot of standard C stuff like time.h
[04:32] <mindamp> am i missing a package?
[04:32] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, language, thanks...
[04:32] <DrBanzai> Can anybody here help me with my ATI drivers, please?  When I do fglrxinfo I keep getting the MESA stuff...
[04:32] <PORDO> it's so bad it makes me think, "how could you possibly make this any worse?'
[04:32] <mindamp> i installed gcc obviously...
[04:32] <nickrud> mindamp, cups-pdf is in the repos
[04:32] <ubuntu_> my computer teacher gave it me this disc,i got the install too..i just dunno..isnt it not compatible with many games?
[04:32] <wizzlefish> I've got a Tango FF theme, a Tango TB theme, and Tango icons and style for my Ubuntu
[04:32] <mindamp> and...
[04:32] <wizzlefish> maybe that's what's slowing it down!
[04:32] <nickrud> mindamp, sudo apt-get install cups-pdf
[04:32] <Samuli^> drBanzai, have you installed xorg-driver-fglrx?
[04:32] <xbox_guru> when I set up my network settings, I have wep and I"m trying to use the ubuntu network configuration, not in the terminal, and I want to know what settings I should use for the WEP. I have a 128bit encryption and was wondering, should I use hexidecimal or the other setting. Also should I use the DHCP, or static ip. Also should I set up the dns servers myself.
[04:32] <DrBanzai> Samuli^, Yes
[04:32] <_JECKEL_> listen... ubuntu_ ...do yourself a favor and get the art manager and go look through various themes and stuff
[04:32] <PORDO> can someone help me?  my login crashes in under ten seconds, and i can't "see" my sound devices.
[04:32] <mindamp> i have to modify the source for a system specific variable..
[04:32] <ubuntu_> where do i get that?
[04:32] <nickrud> ubuntu_, yes you are absolutley correct about games
[04:32] <mindamp> so i need to compile it from cups-pdf.c
[04:33] <mindamp> however gcc errors out trying to find several .h's.. i.e. time.h
[04:33] <ubuntu_> but i love GIMP i have have the hack for XP
[04:33] <wizzlefish> _JECKEL_: is that the "GNOME Art" thing?
[04:33] <_JECKEL_> yeah
[04:33] <mindamp> is there a c library or something i must "apt-get"?
[04:33] <nickrud> mindamp, then try sudo apt-get build-dep cups-pdf
[04:33] <daddius> t
[04:33] <Flannel> mindamp: you already have build-essential?
[04:33] <shellsage> If I install Flight 7 on a computer, will I be able to upgrade the system to the final release of dapper after it is released, as if I had just done a fresh install of the dapper final release?
[04:33] <Samuli^> drbanzai, then take backup of xorg.conf = sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[04:33] <wizzlefish> ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org <--- some games there
[04:33] <mutrooo> ciao
[04:33] <Madpilot> shellsage, yes
[04:33] <apokryphos> mindamp: what are you trying to do?
[04:33] <Flannel> shellsage: yes.  but, #ubuntu+1 is the place to ask further.
[04:33] <||arifaX> hi I want to use sudo in a bash script but does not seem to work any clues?
[04:34] <shellsage> ok thanks
[04:34] <_JECKEL_> the ONLY thing I don't like about linux in general is the lack of an abillity to use games on it easily
[04:34] <DrBanzai> Samuli^, I already have a few of those too...
[04:34] <Samuli^> drbanzai, after that: sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:34] <wizzlefish> does Ubuntu come with Ruby installed?
[04:34] <mindamp> i having a feeling build-essential will fix it
[04:34] <mindamp> thank you
[04:34] <nickrud> ||arifaX, depends on the circumstances; I usually write the script so I can call it with sudo, not call sudo inside the script
[04:35] <Madpilot> wizzlefish, I don't think so
[04:35] <ubuntu_> can i get a link to art manager or whatever?
[04:35] <wizzlefish> ubuntu_: http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=889
[04:35] <xbox_guru> when I set up my network settings, I have wep and I"m trying to use the ubuntu network configuration, not in the terminal, and I want to know what settings I should use for the WEP. I have a 128bit encryption and was wondering, should I use hexidecimal or the other setting. Also should I use the DHCP, or static ip. Also should I set up the dns servers myself.
[04:35] <Samuli^> drbanzai, that command will change every "ati" in the file with "fglrx"
[04:35] <||arifaX> nickrud, it is for syncing pocketpc I need some programs with and some without sudo so I should be able to use it inside the script
[04:35] <wizzlefish> ubuntu_: you'll need Ruby, Ruby-Gnome2, and ReXML
[04:36] <Madpilot> ubuntu_, the art manager is called "gnome-art" - install the package thru Synaptic
[04:36] <_JECKEL_> or you could just go to applications and go to add applications
[04:36] <wizzlefish> arg I need a bigger HD - Ruby won't fit on mine :(
[04:37] <DrBanzai> Samuli^, Hmm, that gave me an unterminated s command error
[04:37] <_JECKEL_> after you installed it, it will show up in your system prefrences menu
[04:37] <_JECKEL_> what is Ruby?
[04:37] <wizzlefish> Ruby is what you need for Gnome-art
[04:37] <Madpilot> a programming language
[04:37] <_JECKEL_> oh
[04:37] <Samuli^> drbanzai, did you use the '
[04:37] <_JECKEL_> guess I allready have it then >_>
[04:37] <DrBanzai> Yup
[04:37] <ubuntu_> eh, ive thought about switching but i live in a house with a bunch of computer illiterates and im afraid if i changed theyd freak out when they saw this
[04:37] <DrBanzai> Er, Samuli^ Yes
[04:37] <wizzlefish> ubuntu_: probably, but you could always dual-boot :)
[04:38] <_JECKEL_> well...I have windows and linux on the same hard drive
[04:38] <PORDO> this is so depressing..i can't get my sound working in dapper. :(
[04:38] <ubuntu_> yeah,but thats alot of disk space
[04:38] <nickrud> ||arifaX, sudo permissions can be odd. you might want to consider giving access to those particular programs in /etc/sudoers. You can give users the ability to run certain programs without entering the password there.
[04:38] <PORDO> upgrading blows.
[04:38] <ubuntu_> my teacher says somthing about this program VB Manager?or somthing like that,where you can boot linux from windows
[04:38] <_JECKEL_> dapper is above breezy right?
[04:38] <wizzlefish> ubuntu_: not really - if you go for a minimal install, it can be under a couple gigs
[04:38] <wizzlefish> _JECKEL_: yes
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu_: vmware perhaps?
[04:39] <_JECKEL_> I'm still on breezy..is it wise to update to dapper?
[04:39] <spikeb> not yet.
[04:39] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, Dapper is still in beta
[04:39] <wizzlefish> ubuntu_: virtual machines work, but they're slow
[04:39] <ubuntu_> maybe
[04:39] <_JECKEL_> and how would I update to it by the way? a full reinstall?
[04:39] <nickrud> ||arifaX, for example, I have ALL     ALL=NOPASSWD: /bin/umount /dev/hdd
[04:39] <nickrud>  in that file, it allows anyone to unmount the cdrom without entering a password
[04:39] <Samuli^> DrBanzai,  I didn't get any errors with: sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:39] <NoUse> _JECKEL_ no you can upgrade from within ubuntu
[04:39] <overrider> hello, i am installing (going to ) ubuntu on an older ibm thinkpad t22 with 900 mhz. i would like to not use gnome or kde at all, rather install something lightweight like fluxbox. is there a way i can tell it to install just that?
[04:40] <blank_> hey guys
[04:40] <_JECKEL_> Ubuntu..I have my 80 gig hard-drive partitioned to roughly 50 something windows, 20 something ubuntu
[04:40] <blank_> what's the /opt directory for
[04:40] <DrBanzai> Samuli^, Okay, For some reason, I didn't get the last / before the last '
[04:40] <ubuntu_> ah
[04:40] <Madpilot> overrider, do a server install, then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for XFCE
[04:40] <||arifaX> nickrud, I see
[04:40] <nickrud> blank_, for installing software that is not part of the distribution
[04:40] <blank_> basically, I want to install the mplayer plugin for firefox 1.5, but dont know where to; /usr/lib/firefox/plugins or /opt/firefox/plugins
[04:40] <NoUse> overrider you might look into xubuntu, it uses xfce which is lighter than the gnome or kde but has more features than fluxbox
[04:40] <blank_> nickrud, so I'm guessing /opt right?
[04:40] <ubuntu_> ok,im a little confused on how to install this gnome-art thing,it opens some script
[04:41] <Flannel> blank_: http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg and  http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
[04:41] <wizzlefish> argh...I only have 7.5 GB of disk space left...
[04:41] <overrider> yes xfce would also be fine, thanks guys
[04:41] <blank_> thanks Flannel
[04:41] <_JECKEL_> ubuntu_ at first I didn't like linux because it seemed flat and dead. Then I started exploring and looking for ways to make it look cooler..and honestly..you can get some pretty kick ass looking desk tops
[04:41] <wizzlefish> ubuntu_: do it with the command line: "sudo apt-get install gnome-art"
[04:41] <Mitsurugi> I'm gonna go
[04:41] <Mitsurugi> I'm gonna do that
[04:41] <ubuntu_> ok
[04:41] <Samuli^> DrBanzai, so anyways.. If all goes well you should have working opengl after reboot :)
[04:41] <wizzlefish> ubuntu_: but it'll be erased when you reboot
[04:41] <Madpilot> ubuntu_, applications->add applications, search for gnome-art
[04:41] <Mitsurugi> How many do you get wizzlefish?
[04:41] <blank_> !ff1.5
[04:41] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:41] <ubuntu_> and thats another thing..im not good with that stuff,but im taking programming next year
[04:42] <nickrud> blank_, no, you should install the mplayer plugin from the repos; then link from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/mplayer* to wherever you installed your extra firefox
[04:42] <DrBanzai> Samuli^, Okay, thanks!  Full reboot, or just restart X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?
[04:42] <_JECKEL_> and even though I only use terminal windows for wine and a few other stuff like tar...you can make em look leet and awesome
[04:42] <wizzlefish> Mitsurugi: how many whats?
[04:42] <blank_> nickrud, but I think that's for the old firefox, not 1.5
[04:42] <nickrud> blank_, !ff1.5 has detailed instructions
[04:42] <_JECKEL_> oh bah he left
[04:42] <blank_> oh nickrud, i get you now, how do I link
[04:42] <blank_> oh okay
[04:42] <Madpilot> ubuntu_, sorry, search for art manager
[04:42] <_JECKEL_> how is he gonna take programming when he basically said he sucks at computers?
[04:42] <nickrud> blank_, see that page, seriously. It's correct
[04:42] <ubuntu_> well i hve to learn
[04:43] <_JECKEL_> oh..damn you and your underscore
[04:43] <blank_> nickrud, yeah thanks, sorry for nagging, forgot it was there :(
[04:43] <Mitsurugi> Wizzlesidh: i just tried that command, it didn't work =[
[04:43] <wizzlefish> ubuntu_: here's a quick article I wrote: http://noenemies.com/2006/05/15/getting-set-up-in-ubuntu-gnulinux/
[04:43] <nickrud> blank_, no sweat :)
[04:43] <_JECKEL_> My terminal window is transparent with a green shade. It's put on my background which is sorta bluish matrix type of thing so in the terminal window it looks like normal black and green matrixness
[04:43] <wizzlefish> ubuntu_: not the best, but it might get you convinced that GNU/Linux isn't hard to use (unless you want to do some hard stuff)
[04:43] <Samuli^> drbanzai, I'm not sure actually. I think you need to at least restart gdm
[04:44] <blank_> thanks nickrud that should do it, but by the way, I did as it said in the guide, ' sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .', but I think I also have /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, should I do that too?
[04:44] <_JECKEL_> looks pretty kick ass with the green letters that are brighter than the background of the terminal so it's easy to read
[04:44] <xbox_guru> I have wep and I"m trying to use the ubuntu network configuration, and I want to know what settings I should use for the WEP. I have a 128bit encryption and was wondering, should I use hexidecimal or the other setting.
[04:44] <Chris_Tucker> Um .. help? Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda6 ... how do i fix this? its ext3... and its saying its not a correct ext2 filesystem, and gives an e2fsck line to try, but that too produces this error
[04:44] <roostishaw> how do i fix a broken package anyone?
[04:44] <DrBanzai> Samuli^, Okay, I'll try restarting X, and if that dosen't work, I'll do a full reboot
[04:44] <wizzlefish> Mitsurugi: the command should work - what did it tell you?
[04:44] <NoUse> roostishaw try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[04:44] <Samuli^> I'm gonna restart too.
[04:44] <_JECKEL_> the best thing about Linux is that it and mostly everything with it is free
[04:44] <nickrud> blank_, I pointed you at that page because it was correct, follow it not my off the cuff example :)
[04:45] <NoUse> roostishaw what package is broken?
[04:45] <roostishaw> NoUse, tried that, but it sends me into an endless loop   :(
[04:45] <blank_> nickrud, yeah I just realized that...thanks
[04:45] <roostishaw> NoUse, firefox
[04:45] <wizzlefish> _JECKEL_: here are many more reasons: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net
[04:45] <_JECKEL_> Now all I have to figure out is wine to it's fullest so I can get diablo 2 to run on it right.
[04:45] <blank_> nickrud, so now just restart firefox right
[04:45] <blank_> how can I see what ln's are where?
[04:45] <blank_> if it's even possible
[04:45] <ubuntu_> and thats another downside to linux for me,to many damn computer critics
[04:46] <_JECKEL_> wizzlefish, honestly...I find myself in linux because I have near complete controll over the way it looks and runs
[04:46] <mattcraigschultz> hey, anybody know why i cant use gparted to shrink my ext3 fs / partition on hda3?
[04:46] <wizzlefish> _JECKEL_: I like it because it's fast, customizable, and, come on, their mascot is a penguin! :)
[04:46] <Chris_Tucker> Um .. help? Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda6 ... how do i fix this? its ext3... and its saying its not a correct ext2 filesystem, and gives an e2fsck line to try, but that too produces this error
[04:46] <ubuntu_> hahahahah whizzlefish
[04:46] <_JECKEL_> Yeah..penguin's are cool..and the startup is nice and fast
[04:46] <NoUse> roostishaw have you tried removing the package and reinstalling?
[04:46] <ubuntu_> cant deny the penguin
[04:47] <_JECKEL_> oh..and the security of it too
[04:47] <_JECKEL_> not many linux viruses out there and you never hear of spyware for linux
[04:47] <_JECKEL_> the only thing I really hate is that it took alot of work to get to play various media files
[04:47] <Mitsurugi> WizzleFish: it said it couldn't find the pakcage gnaome art
[04:47] <nickrud> blank_, if all went well, no restart necessary
[04:47] <siccness> Afternoon guys!
[04:48] <_JECKEL_> here's an idea for the next Ubuntu....come complete with all that is needed to run the various media files
[04:48] <blank_> nickrud, oh okay...
[04:48] <ubuntu_> I've heard linux is actually good for hacking?or one form of it.
[04:48] <blank_> wonder how I'd know if it went well, let me see...ah yes i'll stream some video i guess
[04:48] <Chris_Tucker> _JECKEL_, i believe that is illegal
[04:48] <_JECKEL_> Chris_Tucker, how? when I can get the packages in synaptic?
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> _JECKEL_: They can be available for you to get, but they can't be distributed.
[04:49] <Chris_Tucker> _JECKEL_, actually, im right, in certain countries its illegal to download certain codecs
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> (Licensing nuances.)
[04:49] <nickrud> blank_, yes, that's exactly right :)
[04:49] <_JECKEL_> stupid other countries. :\
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> Chris_Tucker: That too.
[04:49] <Chris_Tucker> _JECKEL_, the main one being the US
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> The redistribution part is global for certain things though.
[04:49] <pitufo> hi
[04:50] <_JECKEL_> eh...as far as I know there is no restriction on codecs in the US
[04:50] <nickrud> _JECKEL_, Patent and license restrictions on media formats complicate a free operating system's ability to distribute software that will support those formats. Ubuntu actively supports the FreeFormats. This page will walk you through getting support for the most popular non-free media formats.
[04:50] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, there certainly is.
[04:50] <pitufo> anyone know how to avoid the cpu fan pb on imac g5 ?
[04:50] <blank_> it works!
[04:50] <_JECKEL_> which codecs?
[04:50] <_JECKEL_> because I have...alot. >_>
[04:50] <nickrud> blank_, great
[04:50] <blank_> thanks nickrud
[04:51] <nickrud> blank_, I expended a lot of time & effort on learning that :)
[04:51] <blank_> haha
[04:51] <siccness> Would there be any particular reason why downloading is much quicker in Linux over windows?
[04:51] <etaoinsrhld> what's the equivalent of apt-cache search but for _installed_ packages?
[04:52] <DrBanzai> Can anybody here help me with my ATI drivers?  When I do fglrxinfo I keep getting that MESA junk...
[04:52] <ubuntu_> Ok,im still confused on the gnome art thing.
[04:52] <spikeb> nickrud: good news though - if i recall correctly, the mp3 patent is set to expire within the next couple of years
[04:52] <nickrud> etaoinsrhld, dpkg -i <packagename>
[04:52] <ubuntu_> i set it up and put that commad line in but nothing
[04:52] <etaoinsrhld> siccness, MTU, maybe? viruses, worms, bittorrent clients running in the background?
[04:52] <blank_> hey I'm configuring it, just to play around with it, for video output, would 'gl' be faster? Yes I do have working drivers
[04:52] <_JECKEL_> siccness, the only reason I can think of is that you don't have a bunch of background internet crap going on.
[04:52] <etaoinsrhld> thanks nickrud
[04:52] <_JECKEL_> Windows has open ports and stuff that are just transfering info from your comp all the time
[04:52] <Madpilot> ubuntu_, after you install it, look in System->Preferences->Art Manager to start it
[04:52] <_JECKEL_> and it gets bitchy when you close a port off
[04:52] <blank_> wow I just realized that I just dist-upgrad'ed, and my gl drivers aren't working!
[04:52] <nickrud> spikeb, good news. of course, we hope that ogg replaces mp3, just like png replaced gif *cough*
[04:52] <siccness> _JECKEL_: Yeah, it's just that winxp was downloading at 80KB/sec, this linux computer here is downloading at 160KB
[04:52] <siccness> Same server, same file.
[04:53] <siccness> Not complaining, just curious :|
[04:53] <_JECKEL_> like I said..windows has alot of background functions
[04:53] <spikeb> nickrud: it would be nice if ogg had the same momentum that png did, yeah.
[04:53] <ubuntu_> eh..its not there
[04:53] <_JECKEL_> I usually am able to max at around 27kb on linux
[04:53] <siccness> Yeah, _JECKEL_. Big difference tho eh? :D
[04:53] <_JECKEL_> and 24kb on windows
[04:53] <etaoinsrhld> nickrud, you misunderstood me.. i want to search the db to determine if a particular app is installed, not install it anew
[04:53] <wizzlefish> ubuntu_: about hacking - do you mean hacking...or cracking?
[04:53] <nullified> !ftp
[04:53] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[04:53] <siccness> _JECKEL_: I'm assuming 256kbit?
[04:53] <nickrud> etaoinsrhld, sorry, dpkg -l (I claim typo)
[04:54] <nullified> !proftpd
[04:54] <ubotu> nullified: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:54] <_JECKEL_> yeah. i'm rockin the DSL lite from bellsouth
[04:54] <etaoinsrhld> nickrud, oh, woops, thanks
[04:54] <Lob-Sogular> I've got an athlon64 x2 (using 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp) but `sudo modprobe powernow_k8` fails telling me there's no such device... any idea why?
[04:54] <nickrud> of course, claims are useless :)
[04:54] <blank_> !ati
[04:54] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:54] <nullified> !vsftpd
[04:54] <ubotu> nullified: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:54] <siccness> Heh.
[04:54] <ubuntu_> whichever,my coach just recommended some form of linux to someone ,and was like"you could hack the damn CIA  with that"or somthing..being sarcastic of course but still
[04:54] <siccness> I tried the installation of ATI drivers, boy did that fail :)
[04:54] <jhenn> whats a good cdrw for ubuntu?
[04:55] <spikeb> The Fraunhofer patents expire April 2010, at which time MP3 algorithms become public domain.
[04:55] <DrBanzai> siccness, I had it working once...
[04:55] <spikeb> woot
[04:55] <_JECKEL_> Eh...I dunno what is better for "Hacking"
[04:55] <Madpilot> jhenn, a burning app, or an actual drive?
[04:55] <siccness> DrBanzai: Yeah? Can't get it to work again?
[04:55] <_JECKEL_> because I never graduated beyond script kiddie
[04:55] <DrBanzai> siccness, Nope, now I have it so messed up from reinstalling this and that...it's all borked
[04:55] <_JECKEL_> I know C++ now..but that won't really help at all >_>
[04:55] <jhenn> Madpilot: drive
[04:56] <roostishaw> anyone know how to copy protect a cd in ubuntu?
[04:56] <siccness> Eek, just put up with it until Dapper is released :)
[04:56] <siccness> Then try again :)
[04:56] <jhenn> roostishaw: why would you want to do that
[04:56] <wizzlefish> hacking is modifying open-source code....like changing Ubuntu to work the way you want
[04:56] <Madpilot> jhenn, nearly anything should work, I think. I've got a Pioneer DVD/CD-RW, for what it's worth
[04:56] <jhenn> Madpilot: oh
[04:56] <_JECKEL_> he meant in the media way wizzlefish
[04:56] <wizzlefish> I del.icio.us'd a few hacking guides at some point in time - lemme find em
[04:56] <roostishaw> jhenn, why not   :D  mainly fun with friends
[04:56] <wizzlefish> _JECKEL_: oh, that type
[04:56] <nickrud> jhenn, most modern cdrw will work in ubuntu
[04:57] <_JECKEL_> ya know "ZOMG! HACKERS ATTACK TEH PENTAGON WITH L33T INFO STEALING BANK ACCOUNT VIRUSES!"
[04:57] <siccness> Yeah, I've had all 4 DVD and CD-Writers that I've got to work in Linux. Pioneer 106d, 110, Plextor 16x10x40A and another Pioneer
[04:58] <_JECKEL_> oh..and chicks dig the ubuntu because of the games >_>
[04:58] <nickrud> schilling did good work on cdrecord
[04:59] <DBO> _JECKEL_, its not nice to lie =P
[04:59] <_JECKEL_> it's the only thing my girlfriend is interested in for linux >_>
[04:59] <DBO> chicks dig the ubuntu because of the baby tux backgrounds and thats it
[04:59] <spikeb> chicks dig freeciv?
[04:59] <spikeb> heh
[04:59] <nickrud> nah, it's the warty backgrounds
[04:59] <_JECKEL_> they dig the frozen bubbles game
[05:00] <Lob-Sogular> bleh. all the google searches are turning up information about powernow_k8 working... that's not particularly useful
[05:00] <high-freq> to get the /usr/src/linux  do i do  apt-get install linux-source  ?
[05:00] <nickrud> high-freq, yes
[05:00] <high-freq> k
[05:00] <high-freq> to this running kernel ofcourse
[05:00] <high-freq> 2.6.12-k7 or somethin like that
[05:01] <nickrud> high-freq, sorry, it's actually linux-source-2.6.12
[05:01] <high-freq> so  linux-source  just installs for the running kernel
[05:01] <high-freq> k
[05:01] <high-freq> gotcha
[05:01] <Brennan> ah
[05:01] <Brennan> im confued
[05:01] <Brennan> confused*
[05:02] <Brennan> trying to install limewire,i found the right source but i dont get how to install from then on
[05:02] <nickrud> !limewire
[05:02] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[05:02] <Brennan> ok
[05:02] <Brennan> it said somthing about java
[05:02] <nickrud> Brennan, there'll be a link following
[05:02] <nickrud> !javadebs
[05:03] <Chris_Tucker> Um .. help? Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda6 ... how do i fix this? its ext3... and its saying its not a correct ext2 filesystem, and gives an e2fsck line to try, but that too produces this error
[05:03] <nickrud> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:03] <Brennan> i love limewire..because you can use free limewire..to download LimeWirePro
[05:03] <shawn> can someone help me please, i just installed linux on a partition, i have windows xp on the other, and when i try to view files from the other partition, it says that im not the owner
[05:03] <willis_> !ntfs
[05:03] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:04] <nickrud> shadow`, you need to enable access, see what willis_ just said :)
[05:04] <willis_> shawn,  you need to edit the fstab so you can mount them witht eh right permissions.
[05:04] <nickrud> obviously not this one
[05:04] <shawn> fstab?
[05:04] <willis_> heck the others are all turned off i thought. :P
[05:04] <willis_> !fstab
[05:04] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[05:05] <nickrud> shawn, /etc/fstab (file system table) defines how your windows partition is read. That link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions explains a lot
[05:06] <AlmtyBob> doh is there an option with 'ls' in linux to list directory sizes?
[05:06] <apokryphos> AlmtyBob: yes, ls -lh
[05:06] <Abnix> I'm trying to install intel dri driver on my dell inspiron 1100 craptop, I need to have the current kernel config for a fresh (updated) install...what do I apt-get? (or usign the gui package system...)
[05:07] <apokryphos> AlmtyBob: whoops, for directories: du -h
[05:07] <CokeNCode> hey, goodnight everyone, i'm looking for an ftp client
[05:07] <CokeNCode>  something that works like filezilla ...
[05:07] <nickrud> Abnix, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:07] <Flannel> CokeNCode: you can use nautilus
[05:07] <Flannel> CokeNCode: (thats the file browser)
[05:07] <apokryphos> CokeNCode: nautilus, gftp are popular GTK+ ones
[05:07] <AlmtyBob> apokryphos: that doesn't give the size of the their
[05:07] <AlmtyBob> ah thanks
[05:07] <Abnix> ty nickrud
[05:07] <Madpilot> CokeNCode, for basic FTP, use Nautilus. Happily, the Filezilla project is working on a Linux port
[05:07] <CokeNCode> Flannel, cool, thanks
[05:08] <pitufo> anyone know how to avoid the cpu fan pb on imac g5 ?
[05:08] <nickrud> Abnix, hm, I think I may be giving you incorrect help
[05:08] <hou5ton> ok ... i have changed the sources.lst to dapper and done these two:  sudo apt-get update
[05:08] <hou5ton> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:08] <nickrud> Abnix, which intel driver? 915 or the like?
[05:08] <hou5ton> anything else?
[05:08] <nickrud> hou5ton, you should be done
[05:09] <hou5ton> nickrud:  do i need to reboot?
[05:09] <shawn> when it says to type these lines, where do i type them? lol
[05:09] <nickrud> hou5ton, yes, but only because you've installed a new kernel
[05:09] <Abnix> nickrud: this has the 82845g/gl   the one that requires that 23rd party patch to run allocating RAM for video...
[05:09] <hou5ton> ok... thanks
[05:09] <king_> anyone running XGL/Compiz
[05:09] <Flannel> king_: #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-xgl
[05:09] <king_> thanx
[05:10] <james_> question... would ubuntu work well on an old AMD k6 system running at about 500Mhz with 512k RAM?
[05:10] <willis_> james_,  whoulkd work ok
[05:10] <Abnix> james_: should work great
[05:10] <nickrud> Abnix, ok. Then the command I gave will give you what you need to build a module. I'm not really up on intel video drivers, but I'd look harder to see if ubuntu has native support
[05:10] <willis_> james_,  ive ran it on less.
[05:10] <hyphenated> james_: it'll work fairly nicely
[05:10] <james_> cool ty.....
[05:10] <shawn> when it says to type these lines, where do i type them? lol
[05:10] <james_> would KDE work on that system?
[05:10] <Flannel> james_: yes.
[05:11] <willis_> james_,  may be better off with a lighter window manager/de however
[05:11] <Flannel> james_: although, you might look into xubuntu
[05:11] <Abnix> nickrud: that I've seen, rh, gentoo, and a few others just kinda throw their hands up in the air at this card and mutter under their breath a bit 'wtf was intel thinking?'
[05:11] <nickrud> Abnix, like 915 resolution in dapper, not available in breezy
[05:11] <Abnix> nickrud: thanks much for the help though
[05:11] <james_> i want to do xubuntu, but the install did not recognize the network card so that system has no internet access....
[05:12] <james_> so in the mean time, i thought i would just du ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:12] <high-freq> ok..i just did installed linux-source-2.6.12  but uh..this is kernel  2.6.12-10-k7   or does it matter?
[05:12] <nickrud> Abnix, I always say, wtf was <fill in the blank> thinking :_
[05:12] <Lob-Sogular> lovely: [  120.949361]  powernow-k8: Found 2 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version
[05:12] <Lob-Sogular> !@#
[05:12] <ubotu> Lob-Sogular: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:12] <Lob-Sogular> silly linebreaks
[05:13] <Lob-Sogular> I'm getting: [  120.949361]  powernow-k8: Found 2 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.40.4) / [  120.949546]  powernow-k8: MP systems not supported by PSB BIOS structure / [  120.949696]  powernow-k8: MP systems not supported by PSB BIOS structure
[05:13] <nickrud> high-freq, no, it does not matter. The default config your ubuntu is using is in /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[05:14] <high-freq> ok
[05:14] <Lob-Sogular> in dmesg when I try load powernow_k8 on an athlon64 x2 4200 on an a8n-e mobo
[05:14] <james_> as i was attempting to install xubuntu (without at first realizing that i needed net access for that, i went ahead and installed ubuntu server.... what would be the easiest way to add the K desktop to the server WITHOUT net access?
[05:14] <shawn> when it says to type these lines, where do i type them? lol
[05:14] <nickrud> james_, there is no easy way for xubuntu under breezy
[05:14] <Flannel> james_: which CD do you have?
[05:14] <CaBlGuY> on yur keyboard silly..  :p
[05:15] <james_> i have ubuntu 5.10
[05:15] <james_> would i be able to install GNOME with the ubuntu CD?
[05:15] <Flannel> yes
[05:15] <abarbaccia> hey guys - anybody here good with bash scripting?
[05:15] <nickrud> james_, yes
[05:15] <james_> ok, that would be well enough
[05:15] <Flannel> james_: I dont know if kde is included on the ubuntu CD though.
[05:16] <nickrud> james_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:16] <james_> Flannel, i don't think it is
[05:16] <nickrud> no kde on ubuntu
[05:16] <james_> ty nickrud
[05:16] <bur[n] er> james_: gnome is installed by default
[05:16] <abarbaccia> if i write a bash script, chroot to a new root, how can i execute the rest of the script on that new root?
[05:17] <james_> bur[n] er, , i installed server
[05:17] <james_> so i have no desktop
[05:17] <james_> i think.... lol
[05:17] <bur[n] er> aww
[05:17] <Flannel> james_: right.  do that ;)
[05:17] <shawn> im lost...
[05:17] <bur[n] er> listen to nickrud then :)
[05:17] <willis_> abarbaccia,  that may be... difficult.
[05:17] <james_> thanks!
[05:17] <abarbaccia> willis_: i'm seeing this now
[05:17] <willis_> abarbaccia,  check that 'advance bash scripting guide'
[05:17] <nickrud> willis_, you are a master of understatement
[05:18] <abarbaccia> willis_: maybe i'll set it up as two different scripts or something
[05:18] <willis_> abarbaccia,  yep. thats what i was thinking
[05:18] <Flannel> Abnix: you'd be using su, or two terminals ;)
[05:18] <siccness> Abnix: probably logged in as root :P
[05:18] <shawn> im extremely new to linux and need help
[05:19] <abarbaccia> willis_: if i set it up as 2 scripts i can pass the 2nd script as the command to run
[05:19] <Abnix> well no, I use it for when I input a command and forget to put a sudo in front
[05:19] <nickrud> shawn, you need help with fixing your /etc/fstab?
[05:19] <shawn> yes, i went to that site, and it says to type some stuff in, but i dont know where to type it in lol
[05:19] <willis_> shawn, it may be wworth the effort to read a few introduction  to linux guides and howtos.
[05:20] <siccness> terminal
[05:20] <Abnix> linux command line is about lazy typing... (but here we all are in irc...)   sudo !!  just execs the previous command, and I mean it this time...
[05:20] <willis_> !bash
[05:20] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[05:20] <willis_> !intro
[05:20] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, willis_
[05:20] <willis_> :(
[05:20] <abarbaccia> willis_: ya think it would work if i just put chroot <dir> command1; command2; command3; etc..
[05:20] <nickrud> shawn, ok. start with Applications->Accessories-Terminal from the top menu bar
[05:20] <willis_> abarbaccia,  not sure check the chroot man pages.. ya can always try it and see.
[05:20] <Flannel> Abnix: you know you can just hit the uparrow, and recall your last command, right? (so, up, home, 'sudo ', enter)
[05:21] <Flannel> Abnix: and of course, you can scroll through your commands further with the arrow keys
[05:21] <CokeNCode> I'm having a frustrating linux night
[05:21] <Mitsurugi> How do you install limewire?
[05:21] <nickrud> shawn, did that open a window for you?
[05:21] <CokeNCode> why is Nautilus asking for a directory? and not prompting me for a login password
[05:22] <CokeNCode> *sighs heavily
[05:22] <siccness> you can always type history to see previous commands as well, another useful thing :)
[05:22] <Abnix> Flannel: yes. but. see comment on 'LAZY'   sudo !!  == fewer keystrokes than up-arrow, home, sudo <enter>
[05:22] <shawn> yea
[05:22] <nickrud> shawn, good. That's the place you're going to type nearly everything someone says here.
[05:22] <Flannel> Abnix: right, but it also means you can only do the last command, and you aren't sure if that command is "apt-get yadda" or "rm -rf" ;)
[05:22] <shawn> ok
[05:22] <shawn> thanks
[05:22] <Flannel> Abnix: I'd rather be sure, than lazy and reinstalling ;)
[05:22] <siccness> Heheh, Flannel :P
[05:22] <Abnix> Flannel: but I just typed it in...  (o:
[05:23] <pitufo> hi
[05:23] <nickrud> shawn, the first thing we're going to do is make a copy of the filesystem table so if everything goes tits up, we can recover :)
[05:23] <pitufo> anyone know how to avoid the cpu fan pb on imac g5 ?
[05:23] <swissbear> which software for make an iso image disk?
[05:23] <shawn> ok
[05:23] <high-freq> nickrud: this is a fresh install....is there anything i must install before i do make menuconfig  cuz its givin me errors when i do make menuconfig   in /usr/src/linux after i made the link from the soruces
[05:23] <nickrud> shawn, in that terminal, type cp /etc/fstab ~
[05:24] <CokeNCode> ok, i got it
[05:24] <nickrud> high-freq, copy the config from /boot to /usr/src/linux, then type make oldconfig
[05:24] <shawn> it didnt do anything
[05:24] <swissbear> I mean for burn an iso image
[05:24] <high-freq> aaah ok
[05:24] <nickrud> shawn, yes it did. if you type ls in the terminal, you should see fstab listed (ls is the same as dir in windows)
[05:25] <shawn> ok
[05:25] <high-freq> nickrud: do i rename it to .config?
[05:25] <nickrud> high-freq, yes
[05:25] <high-freq> if so then its still erroring out
[05:25] <overrider> sorry, after i did a server install, which is the command to install xorg? i installed xorg-common , but i still do not able to startx
[05:25] <high-freq> make, *** [scripts_basic]  error 2
[05:26] <nickrud> shawn, now, type gksudo gedit /etc/fstab in the terminal , it should open a file and show you some text,
[05:26] <samuli> swissbear, just nautilus or terminal.
[05:26] <high-freq> d/l the soure..unpacked it...did  ln -s  source_file linux   then cp the config for this kernel over and rename to .config  then make oldconfig   ...still erorrs out
[05:26] <samuli> in dapper there's folder cd/dvd creation in places and you just put stuff there then do write to disc and choose write an iso
[05:27] <shawn> erm
[05:27] <CokeNCode> it's always sad when you realise the easy way to do something, about 90% of the way thru doing it the hard way ...
[05:27] <shawn> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:27] <shawn> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:27] <samuli> i don't remember if there's that in breezy though.
[05:27] <nickrud> shawn, those are warnings, not errors. no sweat
[05:27] <shawn> there isnt any text in the doc that came up
[05:28] <samuli> shawn, are you using sudo -i ?
[05:28] <shawn> no clue
[05:28] <nickrud> shawn, close it then. samuli he's using gksudo
[05:28] <samuli> anyways, try sudo gedit
[05:29] <shawn> i did sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:29] <shawn> and i got text this time
[05:29] <nickrud> shawn, good, work from there
[05:30] <shawn> wat do i do now?
[05:30] <samuli> nickrud, dunno :/ All I know is that gksudo is useful for in menu and stuff.
[05:30] <nickrud> shawn, no, open a firefox browser window to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and copy the text to that web page, and submit it. That way we can see what your /etc/fstab is
[05:31] <nickrud> shawn, that no after your name should have been now :)
[05:31] <DrBanzai> So, do you think fglrxconfig will screw things up worse then they are?  Anyone?
[05:31] <overrider> i already installed the package xorg-server-core, biut it still doesnt have the startx command is there are site which shows the right package to install for xorg xserver
[05:31] <samuli> I have entries like: gksudo nautilus and gksudo gedit sources.list in my gnome-menu :)
[05:32] <nickrud> samuli, gksudo sets the home dir to roots, but preserves all the same stuff otherwise that sudo -s does
[05:32] <shawn> ok i submitted
[05:32] <samuli> nickrud, and displays that nice windows to type your password.
[05:33] <samuli> I think 'sudo nautilus' wouldn't work in the menu.
[05:33] <roostishaw> what does the -R flag do when removing something?
[05:34] <roostishaw> anyone
[05:34] <citron> hi guys!
[05:34] <samuli> rootishaw, removes recursively all sub-dirs and their files.
[05:34] <high-freq> !kernel
[05:34] <roostishaw> ok, so i dont need to use it for just one file?
[05:34] <samuli> sudo rm -R is something to almost never used :)
[05:34] <high-freq> !kernel howto
[05:34] <ubotu> high-freq: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:35] <high-freq> hmm
[05:35] <samuli> rootishaw, man rm
[05:35] <citron> roostishaw no...
[05:35] <roostishaw> ok, thanks!
[05:35] <citron> like, if you want to remove all directories and subdirs of the folder "hiall"
[05:35] <citron> you type: rm -rf hiall
[05:36] <citron> -f to force the remove if something... well..
[05:36] <citron> and -r to remove the dir.
[05:36] <citron> :)~
[05:36] <citron> if you want to remove only one file, you can use just "rm filename"
[05:36] <citron> but, rm -rf is nice :D~
[05:36] <nickrud> shawn, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14105 Do you see the addition I made, to line 6?
[05:37] <citron> hey guys, ubuntu have live-cd?
[05:37] <siccness> Sure does, citron.
[05:37] <adri_> hi bob
[05:37] <adri_> im blank
[05:37] <adri_> uh
[05:37] <citron> [siccness] : nice. i want to test ubuntu :D~
[05:37] <adri_> ok
[05:37] <citron> everybody here says that is great :D~
[05:38] <shawn> ,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[05:38] <siccness> :) I'm very new to Ubuntu, or even Linux for that matter.
[05:38] <adri_> i dont know how though
[05:38] <siccness> But I recommend installing it.
[05:38] <samuli> what's fmask and dmask?
[05:38] <siccness> Live CDs are too slow, for my liking anyway.
[05:38] <nickrud> shawn, make the changes to the fstab in gedit, and save it
[05:38] <adri_> can someone help me install abunto?
[05:38] <nickrud> samuli, file mask and directory mask
[05:38] <adri_> or help me draw this cool thing?
[05:38] <siccness> *ubuntu, adri_, any part in particular?
[05:39] <shawn> ok done
[05:39] <adri_> uh.. the drawing part
[05:39] <nickrud> shawn, now close gedit
[05:39] <samuli> citron, take the new dapper flight 7 live cd so you can install if you like it ;)
[05:39] <siccness> Oh, my apologies.
[05:39] <siccness> Heh.
[05:39] <shawn> k
[05:39] <adri_> ok
[05:39] <adri_> thanks bye
[05:39] <lsupi> how ready is dapper?
[05:39] <nickrud> shawn, now, type this exactly: sudo umount /dev/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1
[05:39] <adri_> hi blank blank meet blank
[05:40] <DBO> lsupi, its beta and should not be used for production environments until it is released
[05:40] <adri_> blank meet blank
[05:40] <samuli> nickrud, ok. why do you need different permissions for files and folders?
[05:40] <shawn> ok
[05:40] <RonaldMcDonald> Hello people
[05:40] <lsupi> DBO, thanks
[05:40] <RonaldMcDonald> adri_, you need help in installing ubuntu?
[05:40] <nickrud> samuli, cuz directories need executable bits, files don't
[05:40] <shawn> yay i got access now lol
[05:40] <adri_> hello
[05:40] <samuli> nickrud, ok. Good to know.
[05:41] <shawn> ty nickrud, you are very helpfull
[05:41] <high-freq> ok is there anything else to install.... make oldconfig is still erroring out
[05:41] <samuli> I've always just used umask.
[05:41] <adri_> i i uh i al- always wanted to to uh ge- get your aou- aoutograph!
[05:41] <high-freq> or is there a wiki on kernel howto with ubuntu kernels
[05:41] <Xbox_gur1> hello, how do I install new applications using the internet
[05:41] <nickrud> samuli, you can also give groups permissions to write to a fat32 using that (I do that for shared files between users)
[05:41] <nickrud> shawn, thanks
[05:41] <tritium> !kernelcompile
[05:41] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[05:41] <bimberi> !install
[05:41] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[05:42] <bimberi> Xbox_gur1: ^^^^ (2nd link)
[05:42] <samuli> nickrud: doesn't gid= do the same.. oh, right. fat32 doesn't handle permissions well.
[05:42] <samuli> or is that even an option for fat32 drive.
[05:42] <nickrud> samuli, exactly, but you can specify group write in the fstab :)
[05:43] <samuli> well, it's good to know more stuff!
[05:44] <nickrud> I still haven't figured out how to force group write permission without changing the users default group write. Doing it in fat32 is trivial, so I hack it that way
[05:44] <mjb> heyall does anyone know a way to make a dual screen setup have one monitors metacity windows set to always on visible workspace automatically?
[05:44] <gearry> I am having some trouble playing audio CDs
[05:44] <shawn> how would i go about running exe files on linux?
[05:44] <Flannel> shawn: are the windows programs?
[05:44] <shawn> yea
[05:44] <Flannel> shawn: check out wine.
[05:45] <gearry> I figured out a way to make it work, but I suspect I have a larger problem that I would like to solve
[05:45] <nickrud> shawn, by installing wine, which is ' wine is not a windows emulator ' :)
[05:45] <outlawcrook> ok
[05:45] <gearry> if I put the cd in the drive and press play, than the analog audio plays just fine and I can control the volume with the mixer
[05:45] <shawn> so with wine, i will be able to run normal windows programs and games?
[05:45] <gearry> but if I attempt to use the cd player I get nothing
[05:46] <outlawcrook> i installed the 32 bit version of this os and it loaded my nividia 6600GT card no prob
[05:46] <outlawcrook> :)
[05:46] <gearry> the app sees the disc, and says it is playing, but I hear nothing
[05:46] <Flannel> shawn: some of them.  yeah. ideally all of them, but in reality, not all.
[05:46] <nickrud> shawn, some, no promises
[05:46] <shawn> ok lol
[05:46] <paulb> when trying to install packages i get the following error: http://pastebin.com/719975
[05:46] <shawn> so should i just google wine, or does some1 have a link?
[05:47] <Flannel> !wine
[05:47] <Flannel> !tell shawn about wine
[05:47] <blank_> !ff1.5
[05:47] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:48] <DrBanzai> !opengl
[05:48] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DrBanzai
[05:48] <hanasaki> what version and when are the cool eyecandy of xorg slated to be in?
[05:48] <Flannel> hanasaki: you mean xgl?  edgy, probably.  (6.10)
[05:48] <nickrud> hanasaki, you can run it on dapper, but dapper+1 is supposed to have it
[05:49] <hanasaki> dapper+1?
[05:49] <Xbox_gur1> hey, somethings wrong with my package manager, it says an error occured, please run Package Manager from the right click menu or apt-get ona terminal to see what is wrong
[05:49] <hanasaki> we are currently on dapper?
[05:49] <tritium> hanasaki: the release after dapper
[05:49] <nickrud> eft. eh. slimy things crawling on creekbeds
[05:49] <samuli> I want enlightenment 17
[05:49] <Flannel> hanasaki: no, dapper is being released june 1.  it'll be october for the next.
[05:49] <hanasaki> ah... cool.. is there a url with whats new and exciting in dapper listed?
[05:50] <spikeb> 5.10 - the breezy badger
[05:50] <tritium> hanasaki: lsb_release -a
[05:50] <hanasaki> ubuntu = gnome based?  kubuntu = kde based?
[05:50] <Flannel> hanasaki: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta
[05:50] <Kyoske> i need some help
[05:50] <spikeb> hanasaki: yes
[05:50] <bimberi> !tell samuli about e17
[05:51] <Flannel> hanasaki: yes.  and xubuntu is xfce.
[05:51] <hanasaki> tritium:  thanks.. but i am not on a ubuntu box at the moment
[05:51] <sciyoshi> samuli: check out "ebuntu" :-)
[05:51] <nickrud> Kyoske, what with?
[05:51] <Kyoske> when i was installing ubuntu it screwed up =(
[05:51] <tritium> hanasaki: okay
[05:51] <hanasaki> and edubuntu has what in it?
[05:51] <ks1> I am sure there is a very good reason why ubuntu is still using udev 079? does anyone know or can provide a link?
[05:51] <martynda> how do you find out which clock speed the processor is currently running at on a centrino chip?
[05:51] <nickrud> Kyoske, that is not exactly a helpful error message :)
[05:51] <bimberi> hanasaki: edubuntu = ubuntu + ltsp + educational apps (basically)
[05:51] <hanasaki> i will likely go to dapper in june from debina testing
[05:51] <Bratsche> Hello...
[05:51] <Kyoske> i know
[05:51] <hanasaki> ltsp?
[05:51] <samuli> bimber, I know that stuff.. I just want it to be ready as in stable and, well, working :)
[05:51] <Kyoske> its just that
[05:52] <Kyoske> i got to the part
[05:52] <Kyoske> about particians
[05:52] <bimberi> !ltsp
[05:52] <ubotu> it has been said that ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy).  See also http://www.ltsp.org/
[05:52] <hanasaki> ah
[05:52] <hanasaki> thakns
[05:52] <Kyoske> and i was all like wtf!??!
[05:52] <samuli> sciyoshi: hmm, ebuntu?
[05:52] <bimberi> hanasaki: yw :)
[05:52] <paulb> can anyone shead some light on this:nstall vhcs*
[05:52] <paulb> http://pastebin.com/719975
[05:52] <nickrud> Kyoske, ok that's common, but your exact situation will clear up the wtf
[05:52] <Ahmuck> hi hanasaki
[05:53] <hanasaki> sup Ahmuck  .. you being a pain in the but here too lol?
[05:53] <Kyoske> huh, how?
[05:53] <ks1> anyone?
[05:53] <Kyoske> all i wanted to do was install ubuntu to my computer and it didnt
[05:53] <Ahmuck> :-p
[05:53] <slackern> ks1: darn thats quite old
[05:53] <slackern> ks1: 0.79 i mean
[05:53] <nickrud> Kyoske, ubuntu is careful, it tries very hard not to screw your windows install
[05:53] <hanasaki> anyone have a link that shows the release versions /target dates of ubuntu and the relationshipo between  version number and name?
[05:53] <ks1> slackern, yes :P
[05:53] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: what kind of partition problem are you having ?
[05:53] <Kyoske> the regular kind
[05:54] <Kyoske> i dont know im new to this
[05:54] <Apostle^> nickrud, ubuntu always does right by windows, of course windows never does right by anything ( including it's self )
[05:54] <Kyoske> i burned the image like on guy said for me to do so
[05:54] <samuli> paulb: maybe you just update your ubuntu first?
[05:54] <ks1> I am wondering because the newer versions of udev fix a lot of issues
[05:54] <Kyoske> and i started to instal it
[05:54] <Xbox_gur1> package manager says I have 1 broken package on my system, what should I do
[05:54] <Kyoske> but then it got to the part about particians and resizing
[05:54] <paulb> samuli:what do you mean?
[05:55] <nickrud> Kyoske, you got to the partition section, and you were right to back out until you know what you are doing
[05:55] <Kyoske> and it wouldnt let me get past that
[05:55] <spikeb> Xbox_gur1: sudo type apt-get -f install
[05:55] <samuli> pauldb, it said "275 not upgraded"
[05:55] <Kyoske> i know i got really scare di was going to kill somthing
[05:55] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: new drive or old one with data ?
[05:55] <Kyoske> see i have no idea what that means..
[05:55] <Flannel> ks1: because breezy was released with udev 075. and subsequent versions of udev were released after dapper.
[05:55] <Flannel> ks1: erm, breezy.
[05:55] <ks1> Flannel, I am talking about dapper..
[05:55] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: did you have anything on your computer ?
[05:56] <paulb> well it is beta 2
[05:56] <nickrud> Kyoske, do you have a D: partition you don't care about?
[05:56] <Flannel> ks1: well then, this isn't the channel for it.
[05:56] <Kyoske> a D: partition?
[05:56] <ks1> Flannel, the snapshot also has 079.
[05:56] <Kyoske> whats that?
[05:56] <ks1> Flannel, what is the channel then?
[05:56] <Flannel> ks1: #ubuntu+1
[05:56] <ks1> k, thx
[05:56] <Flannel> ks1: this is strictly breezy
[05:56] <Kyoske> and plz forgive my noobnishness
[05:57] <nickrud> Kyoske, when you open windows filemanager, do you have a D: drive as sell as a C: drive?
[05:57] <Xbox_gur1> spikeeb, "sudo type apt-get -f install", what should I type in?
[05:57] <Kyoske> d drive lemme check, but i dont think i do
[05:57] <Kyoske> i have c to j without a d
[05:57] <Xbox_gur1> i don't know which package it is
[05:57] <Kyoske> so no
[05:58] <Kyoske> i dont have a D: drive
[05:58] <samuli> pauldb, you're using dapper drake right?
[05:58] <shawn> wats dapper and breezy?
[05:58] <Agent_bob> whois root
[05:58] <paulb> samuli:yep
[05:58] <Madpilot> shawn, different versions of Ubuntu
[05:58] <paulb> ill go to #ubuntu+1
[05:58] <samuli> pauldb, you really should update :)
[05:58] <shawn> how do i know which im using?
[05:58] <james_> man it is taking along time to install GNOME desktop on  this old computer lol..... and it looks like gstreamer install is producing a lot of errors... would anyone know why that might be?? sound card issues?
[05:59] <Madpilot> shawn, probably Breezy, unless you know you're running the beta version, which is Dapper
[05:59] <shawn> ok thanks
[05:59] <Agent_bob> shawn lsb-release
[05:59] <nickrud> Kyoske, I'm gonna have to hand you off to people who know more about installing ubuntu onto resized partitions.
[05:59] <Xbox_gur1> can someone please help me with my Package manager, it tells me there is a broken package
[05:59] <Kyoske> who?
[06:00] <samuli> I wouldn't use the installation programs resizing functions.
[06:00] <Xbox_gur1> can anyone...
[06:00] <paulb> Agent_bob: root is the superuser
[06:00] <DrBanzai> I have my ATI driver and OpenGL installes all messed up...how can I get rid of it all, and install the right stuff?
[06:00] <Agent_bob> Xbox_gur1 sudo apt-get install -f
[06:00] <Kyoske> ok i wont then
[06:00] <paulb> ok im updating
[06:00] <nickrud> Kyoske, they show up here, ask your question about every 10 minutes. That's how I got sucked into this channel. I asked questions, and then repeated the answers :)
[06:01] <Kyoske> =\ hrm
[06:01] <Kyoske> well i got one last question
[06:01] <Agent_bob> paulb  :)
[06:01] <Kyoske> is 104 GB enough
[06:01] <samuli> :)
[06:01] <paulb> a bit too much
[06:01] <james_> samuli, i used the resizing deal in the installation program... and now there is about 20gig on my hard drive that i no longer have access to LOL
[06:01] <Xbox_gur1> Agent_Bob: I got this error E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:01] <Xbox_gur1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:01] <Kyoske> is that enough space?
[06:01] <spikeb> yeah that is plenty of space
[06:01] <samuli> james_ yeah :P
[06:01] <Kyoske> becuase when installing
[06:02] <samuli> Kyoske: It's plenty.
[06:02] <Agent_bob> Kyoske no
[06:02] <Kyoske> its was showing numbers like
[06:02] <outlawcrook> ok 1 more question
[06:02] <Kyoske> 160 GB and 125 GB
[06:02] <paulb> Kyose:i have it installed on a 20 gb
[06:02] <Kyoske> but why wont it let me install?
[06:02] <samuli> whole ubuntu could fit into 1,5gb.
[06:02] <Agent_bob> Xbox_gur1 so close synaptic first
[06:02] <james_> i am installing ubuntu right now on an 8gb
[06:02] <Kyoske> why does it have the numbers 160GB and 125GB
[06:02] <outlawcrook> how do i get this to see a windows network,see and use them
[06:02] <Bratsche> What's the minimum RAM you should have before installing ubuntu?
[06:03] <AgentCy> is it possible to get XFree86 to work on Ubuntu?
[06:03] <Flannel> outlawcrook: samba
[06:03] <samuli> Kyoske: those are the sizes of your harddrives?
[06:03] <Kyoske> alright
[06:03] <Flannel> Bratsche: what do you want to do with your ubuntu installation?
[06:03] <samuli> Bratsche: I had as little as 128MB myself
[06:03] <Kyoske> so why wouldnt it let me install it
[06:03] <outlawcrook> do i have to turn that on
[06:03] <outlawcrook> i dont see it
[06:03] <outlawcrook> ?
[06:03] <DBO> AgentCy, it probably could be worked out, but why>
[06:03] <samuli> Bratsche: and xubuntu can be installed with 64MB
[06:03] <Kyoske> it told me to manualy mess with the particians
[06:03] <Xbox_gur1> Agent_bob: thanks
[06:03] <Kyoske> and i got very sad ><
[06:04] <Flannel> !tell outlawcrook about samba
[06:04] <Bratsche> samuli: Is it any good with 156MB?
[06:04] <Bratsche> Or should I use xubuntu?
 whole ubuntu could fit into 1,5gb <<< default install preezy takes 1.8   all packages would take over 12g  server install takes about 300m iirc
[06:04] <samuli> Bratsche: well, I managed :)
[06:04] <Flannel> Bratsche: you'll do fine.  If its slow for your tastes, you can always install xubuntu later.
[06:04] <Agent_bob> my b is lazy, thinks it's a p
[06:04] <Flannel> Bratsche: you can switch between the three with no hassles.
[06:04] <Kyoske> DX
[06:04] <Kyoske> what are partricans
[06:04] <AgentCy> DBO: Cant get Xorg to work with my laptop
[06:04] <samuli> Agent_bob: Well, Installation program said that minimum is 1,5GB
[06:05] <DrBanzai> I have my ATI driver and OpenGL installes all messed up...how can I get rid of it all, and install the right stuff?
[06:05] <Bratsche> Flannel: Thanks. I don't think it can be too slower then this Windows ME system...
[06:05] <DBO> AgentCy, can you please describe what isnt working?
[06:05] <Mitsurugi> how do you install limewire?
[06:05] <Flannel> Bratsche: no, it shouldnt be.  But yeah, you can install xubuntu at a later date, without problems.
[06:05] <samuli> Bratsche: Hmm.. It can :)
[06:05] <Bratsche> Thanks.
[06:05] <the_mr_bong_show> hello
[06:05] <shawn> after i get wine, do i have to do anything, or can i automatically run windows files?
[06:05] <Mitsurugi> 'ello
[06:06] <Bratsche> I read it was pretty easy with the Dapper live CD...hopefully it will be so.
[06:06] <Kyoske> does any one have aim so we can talk on that
[06:06] <Agent_bob> samuli i didn't write the installer.
[06:06] <Kyoske> its a lot more less crowded
[06:06] <DrBanzai> Mitsurugi, sudo apt-get install limewire
[06:06] <mikebot> is there a paint type program for ubuntu? (one that comes stock?)
[06:06] <AgentCy> DBO: I have a Gateway M350, with intel 810 chipset.. cant get it above 800x600 resolution
[06:06] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: your better off in a forum
[06:06] <samuli> Agent_bob: No you didn't :)
[06:06] <Ahmuck> the forum
[06:06] <Flannel> mikebot: Open Office Draw.  or Gimp.
[06:06] <shawn> mikebot, GIMP
[06:06] <DBO> !tell AgentCy abour resolution
[06:06] <Kyoske> but i like instant messege
[06:06] <mikebot> thanks
[06:06] <mish4> hey does anyone know why my wireless keyboard doesnt work at time of boot, only after it defaultly goes into ubuntu?
[06:06] <the_mr_bong_show> is there a P2P program i can get for ubuntu
[06:06] <Madpilot> mikebot, GNU paint for really simple stuff, the GIMP for anything complex
[06:06] <high-freq> mikebot: gimp  its defaulted to install i believe
[06:06] <DBO> !tell AgentCy about resolution
[06:07] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: you will get better support in the forum
[06:07] <shawn> after i get wine, do i have to do anything, or can i automatically run windows files?
[06:07] <DBO> AgentCy, look at the link ubotu sent you
[06:07] <Kyoske> sigh
[06:07] <Flannel> shawn: youy have to run them in wine, those pages should go over it.
[06:07] <mikebot> i couldn't (can't) find gimp in the applications menu
[06:07] <mustard5> !tell Mitsurugi about limewire
[06:07] <Kyoske> well what is the deal about resizing patrons?
[06:07] <Kyoske> are w/e they are called
[06:07] <high-freq> mikebot: weird....what bout  apt-get install gimp
[06:07] <Madpilot> mikebot, Applications->Graphics->GIMP Image Editor doesn't work?
[06:08] <Flannel> Kyoske: partitions.  and, what do you mean?
[06:08] <shawn> applications>graphics>GIMP image editor
[06:08] <mikebot> i don't have graphics under applications
[06:08] <Bratsche> And seriously, all you guys rock. I've never seen so many people patiently helping so many clueless noobs like me.
[06:08] <mikebot> i'm not using kde
[06:08] <Flannel> mikebot: are you using ubuntu?
[06:08] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: if you have a box and it has partitions you would have spaces
[06:08] <mikebot> yes
[06:08] <AgentCy> DBO: Ill give that a whirl I guess
[06:08] <Kyoske> i got to the part about partricians
[06:08] <high-freq> gnome?
[06:08] <Kyoske> and it wouldnt let me get past it
[06:08] <mikebot> high-freq, yes
[06:08] <high-freq> mikebot: gnome?
[06:08] <Kyoske> i had no idea what to do
[06:08] <Bratsche> Makes me have faith in online communities again.
[06:08] <Bratsche> Cheers.
[06:08] <Flannel> Kyoske: is this on the liveCD?
[06:08] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: and some of those partitions would be larger and some smaller, but the would have thier own spaces
[06:08] <DBO> AgentCy, you would have the same issue in XFree86 anyhow, its just a matter of configuring your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:08] <mikebot> oh, graphics just wasn't being shown--i got it, thanks
[06:08] <high-freq> mikebot: huh...u might have to add it yourself..but it should have done that on install
[06:08] <Kyoske> no not live cd
[06:08] <the_mr_bong_show> !tell the_mr_bong_show about limewire
[06:09] <Kyoske> i saved it
[06:09] <DrBanzai> I have my ATI driver and OpenGL installes all messed up...how can I get rid of it all, and install the right stuff?
[06:09] <Kyoske> then burned an image
[06:09] <Kyoske> then restarted the comp with the cd
[06:09] <Agent_bob> ok anyone watch vidios in console with vlc ?
[06:09] <Kyoske> and thats when i started instalation
[06:09] <AgentCy> DBO: I posted on the forums.. seems I'm S.O.L. with this chipset and my laptop :P
[06:09] <high-freq> videos in console?
[06:09] <Flannel> Agent_bob: I use mplayer.
[06:09] <Flannel> high-freq: AA or caca.
[06:09] <truz_24`> how can I query information about my sata controller?
[06:09] <high-freq> oh
[06:09] <outlawcrook> so how do i use samba to get into the windows shared files?
[06:09] <DBO> AgentCy, what resolution is your native?
[06:10] <AgentCy> 1024x768
[06:10] <high-freq> outlawcrook: check on smbclient
[06:10] <Apostle^> whats a good torrent program for linux ( not azureus )
[06:10] <Flannel> Apostle^: bittorrent ;)
[06:10] <high-freq> lol
[06:10] <DBO> AgentCy, put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> pastebin
[06:10] <nickrud> man, walk away for 5 minutes, 1000 lines scroll past
[06:10] <Kyoske> thats what happens
[06:10] <AgentCy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174463
[06:10] <Kyoske> so nick
[06:10] <Apostle^> Flannel, ? :-)
[06:10] <Kyoske> when did u install ubuntu
[06:10] <Kyoske> or w/e
[06:10] <Agent_bob> Flannel hmmm my vlc doesnt get the graphics right. i was wondering if i needed some added package for use in console ?
[06:11] <nickrud> Kyoske, I'd been using ubuntu's parent for several years when ubuntu came out
[06:11] <Flannel> Agent_bob: might need an AA or a caca plugin dohickey
[06:11] <Kyoske> so how did ur instalation go?
[06:11] <DrBanzai> I used some kind of "Extras" disc when I installed Hedgehog...anybody know if there is one out for Breezy?
[06:11] <Kyoske> cuz i had a lot of trouble
[06:11] <mikebot> is there a way i can make gimp like stick to the window i have open?
[06:11] <paulb> outlawcrook: smb:/servername or for a username and passwd smb:/uname:password@server
[06:12] <nickrud> Kyoske, fine, but I really don't wanna screw up your windows install.
[06:12] <mikebot> the gimp menu thing, that is
[06:12] <Kyoske> how could u?
[06:12] <high-freq> wouldn't it be easier to just use gnome and goto  "Places>Network Servers>"
[06:12] <nickrud> Kyoske, I could say, for example, don't do this, 'give all of your disk to ubuntu' or some such during the install. Trust me, a little patience here will get you your answers
[06:12] <Agent_bob> Flannel k i'll look into those.
[06:13] <DBO> AgentCy, please put your xorg.conf in pastebin so I can take a look =)
[06:13] <Kyoske> give all my disc to ubuntu?
[06:14] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: say you had a cardboard box
[06:14] <Kyoske> yup
[06:14] <Kyoske> box
[06:14] <high-freq> whats the command to see whats the latest kernel ubuntu is offering?
[06:14] <AgentCy> ok
[06:14] <high-freq> stable that is
[06:14] <AgentCy> just pm it?
[06:14] <gearry> so, I figure out the CD player problem, and discoverd that one of my sound cards is much nicer than the other
[06:14] <gearry> but now I still have a problem
[06:14] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: and you had red marbles in it, but you wanted to put  blue marbles in it how would you do it ?
[06:14] <Ahmuck> without mixing them up ?
[06:14] <gearry> my sounds in Gnome apps don't play
[06:14] <Agent_bob> Kyoske if you are asking for sujestions... i sujest a partition of about 4 to 6 g  for /  <the linux root>    and maybe 8 - 12 for /home
[06:15] <Kyoske> make a divider in the box?
[06:15] <Ahmuck> yes, partitions are similar
[06:15] <Kyoske> part-as in divider
[06:15] <nickrud> Agent_bob, Kyoske needs help with resizing his ntfs partition, I have no experience with that
[06:15] <gearry> I can listen to CDs, and the startup sound plays, but after that, nada
[06:15] <DBO> !tell AgentCy about pastebin
[06:15] <gearry> anybody have any thoughts?
[06:15] <Agent_bob> high-freq apt-get update && apt-cache search linux
[06:16] <Ahmuck> so lets say your windows is on your hard drive (the box) and you want to put ubuntu (red marbles) on the hard drive you would need a divider
[06:16] <high-freq> Agent_bot: that search spits out alot ;(
[06:16] <Ahmuck> or partition
[06:16] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: are you in windows now ?
[06:16] <Kyoske> yes
[06:16] <Kyoske> yes i am
[06:16] <high-freq> oh well....guess i can scroll...hehe
[06:16] <Ahmuck> open up my computer, upper left normally
[06:16] <the_mr_bong_show> '/msg ubotu
[06:16] <Agent_bob> nickrud me too.   ntfs is like that wakki file system from redmound isn't it ?
[06:17] <samuli> gearry, what do you mean after that nothing?
[06:17] <Kyoske> lol already open but go on
[06:17] <uncle_bez> checked out ubuntu website and opengroupware.org, anyone know of a good resource to find best way to install opengroupware on ubuntu?
[06:17] <nickrud> Agent_bob, it's the partition that newbies really need to preserve :)
[06:17] <Ahmuck> as i recall windows will show you what drives you have.  for example, cdrom, etc.  you should see a c: drive
[06:17] <Agent_bob> high-freq so filter it.   add  | grep 'linux-'
[06:17] <Kyoske> i have a c: drive yes
[06:17] <Kyoske> of course
[06:17] <high-freq> Agent_bob: ya gotcha ;)
[06:17] <Ahmuck> do you have other drives ?
[06:17] <Agent_bob> nickrud lol
[06:18] <Kyoske> ya
[06:18] <Kyoske> like
[06:18] <nickrud> Agent_bob, exactly
[06:18] <Kyoske> dvd-rw drive
[06:18] <Kyoske> and mermory stick drives
[06:18] <Kyoske> but no D; drive
[06:18] <Flannel> Kyoske: do you see a C: drive?
[06:18] <Ahmuck> ok, do you have other "hard drives"
[06:18] <paulb> when i try to install the debian package for vhcs i get the following error: http://pastebin.com/719998http://pastebin.com/719998
[06:18] <Kyoske> nope
[06:18] <Ahmuck> or drives which you can store information on them that are not removable ?
[06:19] <Kyoske> no other hard drives than my C:
[06:19] <Ahmuck> ok, so your windows (XP ?) is located on the c: drive.
[06:19] <james_> either it takes way longer to install GNOME desktop AFTER you have already installed server, than if you did a regular install... or else my whole ubuntu install has gone totally haywire
[06:19] <nickrud> paulb, debian is not ubuntu. yet
[06:19] <Kyoske> yes mine is XP
[06:19] <nickrud> paulb, or, ubuntu is not yet debian
[06:19] <Flannel> james_: are you installing from the CD?
[06:19] <Kyoske> and yes all on my C:
[06:19] <Ahmuck> ubuntu wants to partition (make a divider) on your hard drive so it can install itself there
[06:19] <james_> Flannel, yes
[06:19] <johnny3d> what files support animation?
[06:19] <paulb> nickrud: yah i know but there are no ubuntu packages.
[06:20] <Ahmuck> it wants to "shrink" the size of the c: drive
[06:20] <Kyoske> so it is going to poof inside my C:
[06:20] <DBO> AgentCy???  You still with me here?
[06:20] <Kyoske> after instalization
[06:20] <nickrud> paulb, you might be able to get the source from debian, and build it on ubuntu. Maybe etch+1 will be binary compatible
[06:20] <Flannel> james_: well, the desktop is rather large, espeiclal compared to the puny server install.
[06:20] <Ahmuck> no, it is going to divide the "box" so you can put the "red marbles" on the other side
[06:20] <Kyoske> wait how is it going to shrink the size?
[06:20] <Ahmuck> trust me, it is.
[06:20] <Kyoske> wierd..
[06:21] <Kyoske> what will happen to all my stuff
[06:21] <james_> Flannel, ok, although this install has been going on for a few hourse now
[06:21] <paulb> nickrud: how would i go about doing that?
[06:21] <james_> hours*
[06:21] <Flannel> james_: well, what's the screen say? anything?
[06:21] <Ahmuck> you need to know however before you do, is it FAT32 or NTFS and I would suggest you defrag your windows xp installation before you proceed with ubuntu
[06:21] <Agent_bob> "poof inside my c:"    hehhe
[06:22] <Kyoske> whoa-whoa-whoa?
[06:22] <Ahmuck> i would also suggest you find a way to backup your windows (c: drive) before attempting an install with ubuntu
[06:22] <james_> Flannel, yeah, lots of stuff keeps going buy so i guess it is ok. only issue is a lot of errors associated with gstreamer
[06:22] <Kyoske> i think it maybe a ntfs i could be wrong
[06:22] <Kyoske> how would i find out
[06:22] <Flannel> Kyoske: it is NTFS.
[06:22] <Kyoske> and defrag my what?
[06:22] <DrBanzai> Imagine if you will, that your box of blue marbels already has a divider, it's just all the way at one end, up against the side.  Ubuntu will move that divider over, crowding the blue marbels into their half, to make room for the red marbels.
[06:22] <Abnix> what would be some good wireless tool for kubuntu?
[06:22] <Flannel> Kyoske: you'll want to degrag you harddrive, before installing.
[06:22] <Kyoske> what will that do?
[06:23] <Kyoske> and more importantly how do i do that
[06:23] <Ahmuck> it moves all your information to one side of the box
[06:23] <Kyoske> alright
[06:23] <Kyoske> but how do i defrag
[06:23] <Ahmuck> go to accories --> system tools --> defrag
[06:23] <nickrud> paulb, you would figure out what the deb-src line in your sources.list should be, apt-get source <package> then damn, I haven't built the source for anything in so long I've forgotten the rest.
[06:23] <Kyoske> will it destroy anything?
[06:23] <Kyoske> or keep it all safe
[06:23] <Flannel> Kyoske: go to "My Computer" right click the C: drive, go to properties
[06:23] <Ahmuck> defraging your hard drive destroys nothing
[06:23] <Flannel> Kyoske: it'll all be safe at the defrag.
[06:24] <Kyoske> and what was what about a backup?
[06:24] <Flannel> Kyoske: then the "tools" tab, and then the "degfragment now" button.
[06:24] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: just defrag at the moment as Flannel is suggesting
[06:24] <Kyoske> ok
[06:24] <Kyoske> do it now?
[06:24] <nickrud> paulb, I don't mean to be flippant, but I do want to add emphasis to 'don't use debian on ubuntu'
[06:24] <Ahmuck> yes
[06:24] <Kyoske> or when im ready to instiall
[06:25] <paulb> nickrud:ok so its a source install i need to do?
[06:25] <Agent_bob> Kyoske has the potential to really like linux and learn it fast, seeing he/she doesn't have to unlearn windows first.
[06:25] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: you will need to defrag before you install
[06:25] <Kyoske> what is this F: drive?
[06:25] <mikebot> how can i draw lines in gimp?
[06:25] <Agent_bob> that really is a plus
[06:25] <Kyoske> i have C: and F:
[06:26] <DrBanzai> I have my ATI driver and OpenGL installes all messed up...how can I get rid of it all, and install the right stuff?
[06:26] <Kyoske> NFTS and FAT
[06:26] <paulb> also its going to try to install everytime i try to install a package, how do i prevent this?
[06:26] <yonkeltron> i changed my hostname on my laptop and now i'm fucked because i can't sudo
[06:26] <yonkeltron> any ideas?
[06:26] <Agent_bob> f: is probably a cd/dvd rom drive
[06:26] <Kyoske> aight gotcha
[06:26] <Kyoske> so defragmentaion will take long time?
[06:26] <Ahmuck> it can
[06:27] <Kyoske> cuz i have 44GB filled
[06:27] <Ahmuck> depending on how much defragmatation there is and how large your drive is.
[06:27] <mikebot> anyone? drawing lines in gimp?
[06:27] <Kyoske> so with this crap defragmenting
[06:27] <Ahmuck> what kind of lines ?
[06:27] <mikebot> straight ones
[06:27] <Kyoske> will i still be able to use my computer as i always do
[06:27] <nickrud> paulb, if you only enable the source, there's no way a debian binary will try to overwrite. But, you really have to learn a bit to use debian sources with ubuntu. It's a case by case basis on what will work, and I am not gonna spend time on it
[06:28] <Kyoske> yes u have red ble green lines
[06:28] <Kyoske> i*
[06:28] <Agent_bob> consolidate free sapce wont take as long.
[06:28] <Agent_bob> space
[06:28] <mikebot> is there a line tool in gimp?
[06:28] <Kyoske> so when this is defragmenting
[06:28] <paulb> nickrud:k im just going to use the tar.gz
[06:29] <Kyoske> is it okay to listen o my music?
[06:29] <Kyoske> to my msuic*
[06:29] <Madpilot> Kyoske, probably best to leave the system along
[06:29] <Madpilot> alone, even
[06:29] <Kyoske> gotcha
[06:29] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: yes, better to start the defrag and leave the computer alone
[06:29] <chowells> yonkeltron: i had the same problem, decided rebooting was the easiest solution :(
[06:29] <DBO> Kyoske, windows standard defrag utility tends to mess up with too much hard drive space
[06:29] <Kyoske> so just leave the comp alone for the night
[06:29] <DBO> hard drive usage*
[06:29] <jwl007> DBO: This is AgentCy, I have posted my xorg @: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14106
[06:29] <Kyoske> i onjly have $$GB usage
[06:30] <Kyoske> 44GB
[06:30] <Kyoske> so i should be alright?
[06:30] <Agent_bob> Kyoske from if you are talking about a cda then yes.  files on hd  no.
[06:30] <Madpilot> Kyoske, you might want to reboot the thing in safe mode to run defrag - I always had trouble getting either 98 or XP to completely defrag in regular boot...
[06:30] <DBO> jwl007, go into your BIOS and check if there is a vga buffer (or something similar) setting
[06:30] <DBO> jwl007, if so, set it to the max setting it has
[06:30] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: yes, that would be a good idea.  leave it alone for the night.  once that is done, ubuntu should be able to resize the drive.
[06:30] <jwl007> There is a shared memory for 8MB
[06:31] <jwl007> There is also an option for 1MB, but it wont let me select it :-/
[06:31] <Kyoske> what will happen when it is done
[06:31] <DBO> jwl007, 8MB is better for your case
[06:31] <Kyoske> defraging
[06:31] <mikebot> does anyone know if there is a line tool in gimp?
[06:31] <Kyoske> ?
[06:31] <jwl007> DBO: I'll check the vga buffer settings, brb
[06:32] <DBO> Madpilot, do you know any good modeline calculators (I forgot where they all are)
[06:32] <DrBanzai> I have my ATI driver and OpenGL installes all messed up...how can I get rid of it all, and install the right stuff?
[06:32] <Kyoske> so when it is done defraging..... it will what? restart? turn off?
[06:32] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: then you will be ready to let ubuntu resize your drive
[06:32] <mikebot> any response is ok
[06:32] <mikebot> anything
[06:32] <Kyoske> but wont i have to restart it with the cd in the drive?
[06:32] <Madpilot> DBO, what the heck is a modeline calculator?
[06:32] <whyami> is there a hardware compatibility list for usb 2.0 hubs?
[06:33] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: yes
[06:33] <Kyoske> and go into the whole instalation screen again?
[06:33] <Apostle^> whyami, they should all work i'd guess?
[06:33] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: yes
[06:33] <Apostle^> whyami, is it a pci card with usb ports on it?
[06:33] <Kyoske> and i wont have to do crap?
[06:33] <DBO> Madkiss, it makes modelines for xorg
[06:33] <Kyoske> beside click enter
[06:33] <DBO> Madpilot even
[06:33] <Kyoske> :D
[06:33] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: so, you have lot's of music and stuff on your computer ?
[06:33] <Kyoske> kinda
[06:33] <Madpilot> mikebot, there's a line tool somewhere in GIMP, yes - can't remember where, though...
[06:33] <nickrud> DBO, google modline calculator, there are many :)
[06:33] <whyami> Apostle^: they definitely don't all work. I've tried a few already...
[06:33] <Kyoske> i do
[06:33] <nickrud> erm, modeline calculator
[06:34] <DBO> nickrud, yes, but some are much simpler =P
[06:34] <Apostle^> whyami, ahh
[06:34] <Kyoske> is that a problem Ahmuck?
[06:34] <Apostle^> whyami, is it a pci card?
[06:34] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: you have it all saved on DVD or another computer ?
[06:34] <mikebot> Madpilot, got it, thanks -- just have ot hold shift
[06:34] <whyami> Apostle^: what I am looking for is something that splits from 1 usb 2.0 jack from off the mainboard to 4 jacks
[06:34] <whyami> Apostle^: this would be external
[06:34] <Agent_bob> Q, lshw says my vidio card has "size: 16MB"  howto see if that is shared or on the card?   and howto enable that in console for scroll back buffering ?
[06:35] <AgentCy> DBO: No VGA Buffer Setting
[06:35] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: so you work or go to school ?
[06:35] <Apostle^> whyami, if it needs drivers the chances it works goes down
[06:35] <Madpilot> mikebot, there you go. I use Inkscape a lot more than the GIMP these days, I'm loosing my GIMP-fu ;)
[06:35] <Kyoske> no i dont have al my musick saved
[06:35] <Kyoske> i got school
[06:35] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: college ?
[06:35] <Kyoske> no
[06:35] <DBO> AgentCy, ok, please hold
[06:35] <Kyoske> high
[06:35] <AgentCy> k
[06:35] <whyami> Apostle^: for example: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0230833
[06:35] <jhenn> is there a new GNOME every 6 months?
[06:36] <Ahmuck> Kyoske: you might find a friend that has installed linux before to assist you
[06:36] <spikeb> jhenn: yes
[06:36] <Kyoske> i have a friend
[06:36] <Kyoske> he told me aobut ubuntu
[06:36] <Kyoske> and thats why i got intrigued to do all this
[06:36] <Ahmuck> k, well, i am out
[06:36] <Kyoske> darn.=(
[06:36] <Kyoske> see ya
[06:37] <dan__> hello
[06:37] <Kyoske> any one here have ubuntu?
[06:37] <AgentCy> :P
[06:37] <dan__> yeah i do
[06:37] <nverhaar> lol i think most of us would
[06:37] <willis_> i would gess most of us. :P
[06:37] <Kyoske> cool
[06:37] <spikeb> nah, we're all here to talk about it instead
[06:37] <Kyoske> whats it like?
[06:37] <nverhaar> the best!
[06:37] <dan__> can anyone help me get videos working in firefox?
[06:37] <AgentCy> It's happiness for all human beings
[06:37] <Kyoske> tell me what u can do with it
[06:38] <nverhaar> fly to the moon
[06:38] <willis_> Its a linux disto that  defaults to gnome.   whats more to say.
[06:38] <nverhaar> its better than sex
[06:38] <DrBanzai> Kyoske, Pretty much everything you can do with windows
[06:38] <AgentCy> you can write fork bombs and crash it
[06:38] <james_> ok... i have installed the ubuntu desktop.... after a few hours... now it has given me a command prompt. what should i type?
[06:38] <Kyoske> what was this thing
[06:38] <dan__> it is better than sex, but can anyone help me get the cideo plugins for firefox working
[06:38] <Kyoske> where u could have 4 desktops?
[06:38] <nverhaar> rm -rf *
[06:38] <samuli> you can even browse the internet.
[06:38] <AgentCy> james_ try startx
[06:38] <Apostle^> whyami, belkin is great, always good to just google the one your looking at and see if it works on linux, i did that with my bluetooth headset
[06:38] <Ahmuck> james_: a few hours ?
[06:38] <james_> AgentCy, thanks
[06:38] <willis_> 4 'virtual desktops' is a common tool/feature.
[06:38] <Kyoske> ya
[06:38] <james_> Ahmuck, , YES
[06:38] <willis_> you can have more then 4
[06:38] <Kyoske> is that in ubuntu?
[06:39] <willis_> its a standard X feature.
[06:39] <haasteem> hi, how uses xubuntu here?
[06:39] <AgentCy> ubuntu supports vmware?
[06:39] <willis_> heck i got the same feature in windows even
[06:39] <Kyoske> and u can spin you little cube around
[06:39] <samuli> haasteem try #xubuntu?
[06:39] <dan__> can anyone help me get videos working in firefox, says i need a plugin
[06:39] <Kyoske> and look at all ur desktops
[06:39] <willis_> Kyoske,  more eye candy.
[06:39] <haasteem> samuli: ahh... didn't know that channel existed...
[06:40] <DBO> AgentCy, well you arent going to like this... but I believe you are correct, breezy cannot run at 1024x768 with your i810/LCD combo.  I do know there has been lots of work to the i810 driver and its all in dapper, might be worth a shot?
[06:40] <samuli> haasteem: me neither, but does it?
[06:40] <nickrud> dan__, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto, complete that
[06:40] <Jeff1983> can anyone help me get java running in firefox?
[06:40] <haasteem> samuli: :-) yes
[06:40] <AgentCy> ok, guess i'll wait for june 1st then :)
[06:40] <dan__> thanks nickrud
[06:40] <intelikey> haasteem startx
[06:40] <Jeff1983> ive read a few tutorials but had no luck
[06:40] <AgentCy> early birthday present i hope lol
[06:40] <nickrud> dan__, if you have problems, ask again
[06:40] <samuli> AgentCy:, or install dapper to day.
[06:41] <haasteem> intelikey: sorry?
[06:41] <AgentCy> i'd need to compile it though, correct?
[06:41] <gnosticapex> !pastebin
[06:41] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:41] <DBO> AgentCy, you have a fine reason to install dapper if you want today
[06:41] <DBO> AgentCy, no, you can do an upgrade
[06:41] <high-freq> is i20 and i2c really important for laptops or no?
[06:41] <AgentCy> sudp apt-get  upgrade work?
[06:41] <high-freq> i've never used them
[06:41] <samuli> AgentCy: no. flight 7 has nicer installer than any operating system you know :)
[06:42] <AgentCy> is that on a standard repo?
[06:42] <DBO> AgentCy, first you have to modify /etc/apt/sources.list and change all occurances of the word breezy to dapper, then you do "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:42] <AgentCy> rgr
[06:42] <DBO> this IS an overnight style download
[06:42] <intelikey> haasteem xubuntu   thought you were asking how to get X up and running.... startx     or right click on the desktop for a menu if it is running.
[06:42] <AgentCy> hrm ok
[06:42] <samuli> AgentCy, sudo -sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade :P
[06:42] <high-freq> DBO: there's a wiki howto ..makes it alot easier
[06:42] <DBO> AgentCy, also make sure to back up all your important data
[06:42] <AgentCy> yikesy
[06:43] <samuli> AgentCy: but beware it might b0rg your system.
[06:43] <AgentCy> heh, dont have anything on here anyways :P
[06:43] <AgentCy> already had my woes with backup tapes earlier today :)
[06:43] <haasteem> intelikey: ahhh... no, i just wanted to know if anyone is running xubuntu here...
[06:43] <intelikey> AgentCy and if you are on dial-up then you dl for the next 9 days........
[06:43] <samuli> AgentCy: -sed is sed without the '-'
[06:43] <AgentCy> k
[06:43] <Madpilot> haasteem, try the #xubuntu channel
[06:44] <intelikey> haasteem well sort of.
[06:44] <DBO> sampan, in general we dont suggest the sed method because it can bork 3rd party repos (admittedly the instructions I gave would have had him change that too...)
[06:44] <haasteem> Madpilot: yes, already did
[06:44] <intelikey> haasteem actually it's not xubuntu    but a hybird
[06:44] <samuli> nickrud, lol
[06:44] <haasteem> intelikey: i do that too sort of, ubuntu with blackbox
[06:44] <ubonetu> Okay, I know it's a deathwish but I bought a sabrent pcirc.  Can anybody help me configure the dang thing?
[06:45] <samuli> DBO, true that.
[06:45] <Apostle^> sabrent?
[06:45] <ubonetu> uh... yep
[06:45] <Apostle^> never heard of it
[06:45] <nickrud> samuli, it's logged as 'dapper'
[06:45] <ubonetu> It's an evil Chinese tv card
[06:46] <intelikey> haasteem no kidding..... hehhe.   i run blackbox  and kicker      puts the ked menu in the blackbox window...
[06:46] <intelikey> s/ked/kde/
[06:47] <DrBanzai> Is anybody familiar with the Extras cd for Hedgehog?
[06:47] <Apostle^> ubonetu, chinese is no no
[06:47] <haasteem> intelikey: i have no kde at all
[06:47] <nickrud> DrBanzai, I was once
[06:47] <haasteem> intelikey: only gnome
[06:47] <ubonetu> hehe, yep, I figured that out in the last two hours, Apostle^ :-)
[06:47] <AgentCy> samuli: error returned that some index files failed to download and that they may have been ignored
[06:47] <DrBanzai> nickrud, The one that sets up extra fonts and MP3 playing and stuff?
[06:47] <intelikey> haasteem i have no gnome at all :)
[06:47] <Apostle^> ubonetu, seems like nvidia is the way to go on linux, i have an ati card that runs like garbage
[06:48] <nickrud> DrBanzai, yes, I remember that, I didn't think much of it
[06:48] <haasteem> intelikey: i like blackbox a lot though... i run it wityhout rox or something, so only window managing
[06:48] <haasteem> intelikey: :-) funny
[06:48] <DBO> Apostle^, yes, nvidia is the better linux drivers =)
[06:48] <DrBanzai> nickrud, Oh...well I was wondering if it's needed/availabe for the later versions of ubuntu?
[06:48] <haasteem> intelikey: what is kicker?
[06:48] <ubonetu> yeah, as soon as I get some money I'm buying a rockin' card.  Now it will be a nvidia, Apostle^
[06:48] <nickrud> DrBanzai, the closest thing I'd recommend is easyubuntu
[06:48] <AgentCy> I have a spotty A/C Adapter so this should be interesting
[06:48] <nickrud> !easyubuntu
[06:48] <ubotu> I guess easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[06:49] <Jeff1983> can anyone help me get java running in firefox?
[06:49] <Jeff1983> ive read a few tutorials but had no luck
[06:49] <DrBanzai> nickrud, Thanks!
[06:49] <intelikey> right. haasteem it's light weight and fast.  i like it.
[06:49] <haasteem> intelikey: that's it... and with a nice theme it looks really good... no clutter on the desktop
[06:50] <intelikey> haasteem kicker is the kde menu application.   it's like running kde with out the de
[06:50] <intelikey> yep
[06:50] <samuli> AgentCy: that means that it did indeed bork some of your 3rd party repos, you might be better off commenting them out for now.
[06:50] <haasteem> ok
[06:51] <AgentCy> meh its dist-upgrading
[06:51] <samuli> oh, well no matter.
[06:51] <nickrud> !repos
[06:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:51] <haasteem> intelikey: so i run gnome without nome... i.e. gtk
[06:51] <Q2TinchoQ2> holas estoy tratando de compila el ndiswrapper para instalar mi wlan
[06:52] <DBO> !es
[06:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:52] <samuli> agentcy, apt-get just ignores those 3rd party repos you had in sources.list, that's a good thing.
[06:52] <AgentCy> k
[06:52] <Q2TinchoQ2> tengo el header, el source el gcc 4.0 pero aun no me anda el make uninstall make install,,, q me estara faltando?
[06:52] <nickrud> !tell Jeff1983 about javadebs
[06:52] <nickrud> Jeff1983, you should have got a pm about java
[06:53] <Jeff1983> nickrub. got it. thanks.
[06:54] <intelikey> haasteem kicker allows the choice to make the taskbar auto hide  and facelitates easy adding removing of applets, launchers and taskbars/panels....     if you have the time some time (assuming high speed network) install kicker sometime and see what you think.
[06:54] <cams> hey, i'm using lftp, and i would like to get all the directories beginning with Jack* ... mget -r Jack* is not working since there"s no support of recursivity with this command. I've manned lftp ... but can't see an easy way to do that ... any ideas ?
[06:55] <intelikey> it will show up in the bb menu under system
[06:55] <haasteem> intelikey: i'll think about it
[06:55] <haasteem> ok
[06:57] <intelikey> cams wget   not an option ?
[06:57] <intelikey> it does -R
[06:57] <intelikey> it also does -c
[06:58] <cams> intelikey, hmm i was not  thinking of wget ... i'm trying to find a way to do such a thing with lftp
[06:58] <high-freq> !ati
[06:58] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:58] <cams> indeed, wget is another solution ;)
[06:58] <dan__> hey nickrud
[06:58] <nickrud> dan__,
[06:59] <dan__> i am changing the config for mPLAYER
[06:59] <dan__> and it wont let me save it
[06:59] <nickrud> oh, ncftp
[06:59] <intelikey> wget  &&  wput
[06:59] <dan__> what should i fo?
[06:59] <cams> intelikey, same ... i used that ... but i wanted to give a try to lftp
[06:59] <nickrud> dan__, gedit ~/.mplayer/config , make changes to that file, and save it
[06:59] <AgentCy> 33% done d/ling dapper.. *yawn*
[07:00] <intelikey> cams ok.
[07:00] <dan__> nickrud_ ok, i'll try it
[07:00] <jhenn> who else can't wait till june 1?
[07:01] <crimsun> heh, I can
[07:01] <AgentCy> meh june 12th is better
[07:01] <AgentCy> :D
[07:01] <dan__> Could not save the file "/home/dan/.mplayer/config"
[07:01] <crimsun> any of us buried in bugs only wish it were june 12th
[07:01] <nickrud> dan__, I'd recommend the changes that are on https://MplayerInstallHowto
[07:01] <dan__> that is what it tells me when i try to save
[07:01] <kakalto> is there a guide to japanese input in the console?
[07:01] <jhenn> AgentCy: whats june 12
[07:01] <AgentCy> 23rd birthday lol
[07:01] <jhenn> AgentCy: bah!
[07:02] <intelikey> june 1   what happens june 1 ?
[07:02] <dan__> could there be any reason why i cant save it?
[07:02] <Flannel> intelikey: Dapper is Released.
[07:02] <intelikey> pfft !
[07:02] <jhenn> apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:03] <dan__> hey nickrud, it just wont let me save the changes i make to file? is there any reason for that?
[07:04] <nickrud> dan__, none that I can think of.
[07:04] <dan__> strange
[07:04] <intelikey> permissions
[07:04] <intelikey> ownership
[07:04] <i3dmaster> how to tell from a linux box that another box is taking the same IP from the Linux box?
[07:04] <nickrud> dan__, true, since it's you you're trying to save as
[07:04] <intelikey> you are not toor
[07:04] <intelikey> root
[07:04] <intelikey> boot
[07:04] <intelikey> shoot
[07:05] <JairunCaloth> Is there a fast way to change user permisions on a crapton of files
[07:05] <JairunCaloth> and by crapton I mean 2000 +
[07:05] <intelikey> ls -l file
[07:06] <nickrud> JairunCaloth, chmod -R XXX <dir/>
[07:06] <Kyoske> hey
[07:06] <Kyoske> my defrag is at 58%
[07:06] <overrider> which is the right package to install for xserver after a server ubuntu install? apt-get install x-server? or xorg-common, xorg-core?
[07:06] <Kyoske> so can i just leave my comp on and when it is done wait til school is over and then install ubuntu?
[07:07] <jhenn> overrider: in debian it always used to be x-window-system
[07:07] <nickrud> JairunCaloth, erm, chmod -r XXX <dir>
[07:07] <intelikey> JairunCaloth yes   but be careful with that command.  you can make the system un usable.  or directories un accessable
[07:07] <JairunCaloth> so that will change all the files in the directory
[07:07] <overrider> jhenn, ok i hope it will be the same on ubuntu
[07:07] <nickrud> overrider, window-system-core in sudo -sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:07] <nickrud> christ, that sucked
[07:08] <graft> why do you need to defrag, Kyoske?
[07:08] <nickrud> Overand, x-window-system-core
[07:08] <graft> aren't you going to format your drive to install ubuntu anyway?
[07:08] <JairunCaloth> natalus should alow you to apply user permission changes to entire dirrectorise
[07:09] <samuli> nickrud, you need to change that a bit
[07:09] <graft> that's some nice spelling, there, JairunCaloth
[07:09] <samuli> there's '-' before sed that shouldn't be there. my typo.
[07:09] <intelikey> JairunCaloth may i sujest affecting the change on dirs/ and files seperately.   cause dirs have to be exec'd      find /base/dir -type f -exec chmod 644 '{}' && find /base/dir -type d -exec chmod 755 '{}'
[07:10] <nickrud> samuli, I was kinda hoping it would get ignored, it's my only hope :)
[07:10] <JairunCaloth> buh???
[07:10] <samuli> nickrud :)
[07:10] <thatfunkymunki> hey guys
[07:10] <intelikey> assuming you wont be executing the files.
[07:11] <thatfunkymunki> i'm having some problems with wine. I'm trying to run steam, but it throws me "wine: error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[07:11] <JairunCaloth> intelikey: that went so far over my head I feel 6ft under now
[07:12] <nickrud> samuli, been there, been embarassed, got over it. Well, a beer helps
[07:12] <intelikey> thatfunkymunki so import it from your windows system
[07:12] <thatfunkymunki> how?
[07:12] <thatfunkymunki> X_X
[07:12] <samuli> nickrud, I'm sort of not following.
[07:13] <nickrud> samuli, trust me, if you spend any time here, you will get punked. It's a condition, not a state
[07:13] <intelikey> JairunCaloth the command is intack  all you need to do is change /base/dir   to the actual base directory.     add sudo if you don't own the files/dirs
[07:13] <graft> what exactly are we recursively chmod'ing, here?
[07:14] <graft> this seems like a bad idea
[07:14] <JairunCaloth> Unreal tournament 2004
[07:14] <intelikey> thatfunkymunki copy it to ~/.wine/<something i don't remember>/c:
[07:14] <graft> why do you need to chmod it, JairunCaloth?
[07:14] <JairunCaloth> big fat 5.5 GB install with over 2000 files. and it belongs to root
[07:14] <thatfunkymunki> well i don't understand exactly what file i need
[07:15] <intelikey> graft yeah specially files and dirs alike....
[07:15] <thatfunkymunki> winxp doesn't really have a libntdll.so
[07:15] <graft> JairunCaloth: so you want to -chown- it, you mean?
[07:16] <JairunCaloth> graft: I couldn't tell you
[07:16] <intelikey> thatfunkymunki libnt.dll   i would think.....  idk.
[07:16] <graft> JairunCaloth: why are you unhappy with the current state of affairs, exactly?
[07:16] <thatfunkymunki> i've been find |grep'ing it but i cannot seem to find it :\
[07:17] <JairunCaloth> graft: I can't access the game files/folders without going into root
[07:17] <graft> JairunCaloth: welp. do you have a 'games' group?
[07:18] <rob_> if was to buy a new computer in the next few months, where should i look that would be a great system for dual booting?
[07:18] <JairunCaloth> graft: no
[07:18] <intelikey> thatfunkymunki i don't do windows.  or ntfs of course.... so idk.  apt-cache search libnt  didn't seem helpful
[07:18] <nickrud> rob_, any machine that runs windows
[07:18] <thatfunkymunki> yeah i generally don't either
[07:18] <JairunCaloth> I just need to make the files belong to me. However I'm not up for the task of changing 2000 files in natalus one by one
[07:18] <intelikey> libntfs-dev - library that provides common NTFS access functions
[07:19] <nickrud> rob_, a year old machine is better
[07:19] <thatfunkymunki> i have a 10gb ntfs part set up for the rare cases that i need windows
[07:19] <intelikey> thatfunkymunki ^
[07:19] <rob_> nickrud, how come a year old machine, my refurbished dell laptop has been a big problem with drivers
[07:19] <graft> JairunCaloth: okay, do this: sudo addgroup games && sudo adduser root games && sudo adduser <youruser> games && chown -R root.games /dir/where/unreal/is
[07:19] <thatfunkymunki> intelikey, the problem isn't with ntfs access it's something with wine
[07:19] <thatfunkymunki> :\
[07:20] <graft> JairunCaloth: err, and sudo that last 'chown' command, obviously
[07:20] <nickrud> rob_, a year old, to give the free guys a chance at it.
[07:20] <defendguin> i only have one QT based app skype is there a way to get it to look like the rest of my GTK apps?
[07:20] <intelikey> thatfunkymunki see if that package is installed.  if not try it.
[07:20] <rob_> nickrud, would linux be able to utilize dual graphics cards?
[07:20] <thatfunkymunki> in synaptic i have every package that involves windows installed, i reinstallled all of them
[07:20] <graft> JairunCaloth: oh wait, the coup de grace - finally, do: sudo chmod -R g+r /dir/where/unreal/is
[07:21] <intelikey> who knows, even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then thatfunkymunki
[07:21] <thatfunkymunki> lol
[07:21] <blind> why do i have to be a hog?
[07:21] <thatfunkymunki> :p
[07:22] <graft> also, since when do hogs eat acorns?
[07:22] <Kyoske> he
[07:22] <Kyoske> when done defragging can i shut down comp
[07:22] <nickrud> rob_, i don't think they have the dual pci-e (terminology?) for nvidia working, but who can without support from the manufactureres?
[07:22] <graft> defragging?
[07:22] <intelikey> better yet why do you have to be blind ?
[07:22] <Kyoske> fragmenting
[07:22] <graft> playing quake 4 here?
[07:23] <blind> I've come to terms with being blind
[07:23] <intelikey> graft for about 6k years....
[07:23] <Kyoske> defragmenting
[07:23] <nickrud> rob_, but xinerama has a working technique
[07:23] <rob_> nickrud, okay
[07:23] <graft> intelikey: err which?
[07:23] <graft> Kyoske: yeah, what are you defragmenting?
[07:23] <rob_> nickrud, what is that?
[07:23] <Kyoske> hard drive
[07:23] <Kyoske> so i can instal ubuntu
[07:23] <Kyoske> but its late
[07:23] <Kyoske> so i must sleep
[07:23] <intelikey> blind then being a how should be a peace of cake :)
[07:24] <nickrud> rob_, a means of combining multiple cards/monitors onto a unifed desktop
[07:24] <nickrud> !xinerama
[07:24] <ubotu> xinerama is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
 also, since when do hogs eat acorns?    <intelikey> graft for about 6k years....
[07:24] <intelikey> oops hog.
[07:24] <graft> Kyoske: are you going to repartition it?
[07:24] <Kyoske> i"ll be back when the percent isnt 85
[07:24] <Kyoske> hrm?
[07:24] <graft> are you repartitioning your hard drive?
[07:24] <jon_> couple of questions for you folks, please. everytime i log into ubunyu, it opens a terminal window. where can i disable this launch?
[07:24] <Kyoske> wait
[07:25] <Kyoske> deframenting is done
[07:25] <graft> intelikey: are you a young-earth creationist?
[07:25] <rob_> nickrud, something that works in ubuntu?
[07:25] <Kyoske> yes i am
[07:25] <Kyoske> goodnight
[07:25] <intelikey> graft i am.
[07:26] <Madpilot> jon_, when you log out, make sure the "save this session" checkbox isn't checked
[07:26] <nickrud> rob_, it's worked in my previous installs. I don't have that exact hardware in front of me, so I won't say it works now, except it has worked
[07:26] <csd1> hello
[07:26] <rob_> nickrud, okay thanks
[07:26] <jon_> Madpilot, thanks i'll try that.
[07:27] <metatag> nalioth_zZz, u dodo now?
[07:27] <csd1> ny one there who can help me out
[07:27] <JairunCaloth> awsome graft, I assume I'll have to be root for patches and such?
[07:28] <Madpilot> csd1, it helps if you ask a question first ;)
[07:28] <graft> JairunCaloth: yeah... root is still the owner
[07:29] <nickrud> jon_, just a terminal shows up on your desktop, everytime you login?
[07:29] <graft> jon_: you running gnome?
[07:30] <nickrud> heh. didn't read back far enough.
[07:30] <jon_> yes, nickrud. yes, graft.
[07:30] <nickrud> jon_, I'd just repeat Madpilot 's advide
[07:31] <jon_> okie.
[07:31] <PORDO> are there any diagnostic tools i can utilize to find out why my upgrade to dapper has caused my audio cards to stop functioning (or even be recognized)
[07:31] <nickrud> jon_, be sure to close the terminal first, though
[07:31] <jon_> btw, where are the desktop wallpaper PNGs stored?
[07:31] <jon_> yep. thankx nickrud
[07:32] <Madpilot> jon_, you can add your own wallpaper images from any directory. I'm not sure where the default ones lurk, though.
[07:32] <paulb_> csd1: repost your question. it could have gotton barried
[07:32] <graft> PORDO: did you try just doing sudo modprobe snd-pcm?
[07:32] <jon_> thanks, Madpilot
[07:32] <PORDO> ahALSA lib pcm.c:1972:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Invalid type for PCM iec958 definition (id: iec958, value: cards.pcm.iec958)
[07:33] <nickrud> there's a lot in /usr/share/wallpaper
[07:33] <graft> erm
[07:33] <jon_> nickrud, sounds promising
[07:33] <nickrud> now, if I could just figure out just how that dir is used ...
[07:34] <Madpilot> jon_, to add your own, just right-click on the desktop, choose Change Desktop Background, then hit the Add Wallpaper button...
[07:34] <james_> ok my last dumb question for the night... how do i logout xserver?
[07:34] <PORDO> i'm supposed to restart after doing several upgrades.  lemme do that and come right back.
[07:35] <jon_> Madpilot, thanks. was just wondering where to store alternatives. rather, where the system stores them so i can use the same place
[07:36] <james_> nickrud, do you know how to logout xserver from the command line?
[07:36] <tobmoox> do ubuntu folks love long urls or something?
[07:36] <Madpilot> jon_, stick your own wallpapers anywhere you want
[07:36] <tobmoox> look what my url catching bot caught from this channel: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fb%2Fbig-cursor%2Fbig-cursor_3.4ubuntu2_all
[07:36] <tobmoox> thats mean >:)
[07:37] <jon_> Madpilot, just being anal about it.
[07:37] <nickrud> james_, no. I think the logout dialog is part of the panel, but that's a guess
[07:37] <dooglus> is there a PLF repository available for dapper?  or is it safe to use the breezy one?
[07:37] <james_> part of the panel?
[07:38] <Pat[Bagels] > james what panel? DCC SEND "SEDBSRTGBSDRJSRTGSRTH" 0 0 0
[07:38] <graft> youch
[07:38] <nickrud> james, I'm stretching beyond my compentency, even trying to answer that question.
[07:38] <Flannel> dooglus: you'd have to ask the PLF people.
[07:39] <nickrud> a minor netsplilt
[07:39] <Flannel> minor, heh.
[07:39] <dooglus> Flannel: hmmm, ok
[07:39] <Madpilot> nickrud, no, a D C C exploit from the idiot I just kb'd
[07:40] <graft> wth client is everyone using?
[07:40] <nickrud> Madpilot, they are still playing that game. It's tiring
[07:40] <degreez> can someone please tell me what kernel version is Ubuntu 5.10
[07:40] <dooglus> which client is stupid enough to quit when it sees a DCC command in a channel?
[07:40] <nickrud> degreez, 2.6.12
[07:40] <Flannel> graft: it's not client,it's router.
[07:40] <nickrud> degreez, with needed security fixes backported
[07:41] <Flannel> well, or norton.  but, the majority of people got hit from routers.
[07:41] <degreez> nickrud... is it normal procedure as usual to install it in vmware?
[07:41] <dooglus> really?  the router should just route - why is it looking inside the packets?
[07:41] <graft> Flannel: router? uh?
[07:41] <rob_> do people still use releases previous to breezy?
[07:41] <nickrud> degreez, no clue, never needed to spend the money to run vmware.
[07:41] <Madpilot> rob_, sometimes, it seems.
[07:41] <dooglus> rob_: yes, you sometimes see people here asking how to upgrade from hoary.
[07:41] <Flannel> graft: yes, router.  DCC thing was affecting some Netgear and some Linksys routers.
[07:41] <degreez> thank you
[07:42] <rob_> madpilot, dooglus, why would they??
[07:42] <Madpilot> rob_, lack of fast internet to upgrade is the most common reason
[07:42] <paulproteus> dooglus: I have a friend that still runs Warty because that's what I gave him.
[07:42] <nickrud> rob_, this machine will be running breezy for a year yet, I expect to hear that same question close to a year from now :)\
[07:42] <paulproteus> He's not technically adept at all. (-:
[07:42] <Madpilot> Flannel and others - please be careful about writing "D C C" - thanks
[07:42] <Flannel> Madpilot: we going back to overzealous ubotu? ;)
[07:43] <dooglus> rob_: if I installed hoary on my mum's computer, she would never update it to breezy - she wouldn't know that breezy was available, or even think about updating.  she just wants to surf the net.
[07:43] <graft> Flannel: ah, reading about it...
[07:43] <Madpilot> Flannel, hopefully not ;) - the bot was just de-op'd in the last day or so
[07:43] <paulproteus> dooglus: Like my Warty friend.
[07:43] <rob_> ahhh
[07:43] <intelikey> rob_ yes people do indeed use year old software....
[07:43] <rob_> nickrud, but isn't part of using linux tinkering it and updating and stuff
[07:44] <rob_> intelikey, but it just seems that with ubuntu each release (from my small viewpoint of breezy to dapper within weeks) is a big step from the previous
[07:44] <dooglus> rob_: maybe if ubuntu had an automatic updater which said "a new release, 'breezy' is available, do you want to upgrade" she would click 'yes please'.  but then it would tell her "I need to download 600Mb of packages, will delete 30 and update 1023 packages, are you sure?" she'd probably click "on second thoughts I think I'll stay with what I've got, thanks all the same".
[07:44] <Madpilot> rob_, Ubuntu is also trying to get the non-tinkerers running Linux ;)
[07:44] <nickrud> rob_, well, there's another take: makde this damn machine work, and do it's job well. Who cares what version of software, as long as it's secure & does the job
[07:45] <dooglus> breezy will offer to update itself to dapper once dapper is released.
[07:45] <rob_> madpilot, i just figure people in here are mostly not those that are trying to be catered to,  nickrud, i guess i have too big of an itch of curiousity and change
[07:45] <paulproteus> dooglus: I'd love it if the update-manager had a button labeled, "On second thought, I think I'll stay with what I've got.  Thanks all the same.".
[07:46] <Madpilot> paulproteus, it's labelled "Cancel"
[07:46] <Hobbsee> paulproteus: hehe
[07:46] <Flannel> dooglus: and, that's ok if she backs out, as they're supported for years afterwards.
[07:46] <Madpilot> hi Hobbsee
[07:46] <intelikey> rob_ there are other factors that come into play.  dialup internet for one.  yes there are places where that is the only option... also i have two boxes setting here one with hoary and one with dapper.  i wouldn't give you a plug nickle for the upgrade as of yet.... so there are reasons.
[07:46] <Hobbsee> hi Madpilot
[07:46] <dooglus> paulproteus: I tried it on my mum's breezy computer last week, and it did have an option to change your mind after telling you how big a job the upgrade was.  and I took that 2nd chance, too.
[07:46] <nickrud> rob, been there, still do that. Just on this one :)
[07:46] <ba> is 5.1 still the latest?
[07:46] <dooglus> paulproteus: mainly because they are on a 2 gig per month download limit.  I didn't want to use 600 Mb of it in one shot like that.
[07:47] <paulproteus> dooglus: /me nods
[07:47] <paulproteus> You could have brought a CD, I suppose, but I agree that it's not a big deal.
[07:47] <nickrud> STABLE
[07:47] <graft> 2 gig download limit?
[07:47] <paulproteus> ba: Yup, 5.10 is the latest until 6.06.
[07:47] <Flannel> ba: 5.10, (five ten, not five one oh).  and yeah, for the remainder of the month, it is.
[07:47] <rob_> intelikey, yeah i never really thought about dialup
[07:47] <dooglus> paulproteus: I was interested to see how well the update-manager coped with the whole breezy->dapper upgrade process - it is supposed to modify /etc/apt/sources.list for you, and do the whole upgrade with GNOME running.
[07:48] <ba> ah ok cool. so much for the 6 months release cycle eh boys haha
[07:48] <paulproteus> ba: I see you laughing in the corner.  Quiet. (-;
[07:48] <Flannel> ba: actually, theyre still on the six month, but this one has been pushed back 2 months.  6.10 will still be, 6.10, and 7.04, etc.
[07:48] <dooglus> graft: with wanadoo, in the UK.  they have 3 packages: 2Gb, 6Gb and 20Gb per month I think.  they charge you if you go over, apparently.
[07:48] <Madpilot> ba, Dapper was pushed back six weeks
[07:49] <ba> mmmm i see. well i dunno. with the way i see things i might just crunch down and pay for suse. i hear its moving preaty nice
[07:49] <paulproteus> dooglus: And then I_Eat_Plastic comes in here with Fiber to the home....
[07:49] <ba> with xgl and the sorts
[07:49] <I_Eat_Plastic> ;)
[07:49] <Ademan> how do you restart vsftpd?
[07:49] <paulproteus> Dapper (the 6.06 release due on June 1) does have Xgl, though I've hardly used it.
[07:49] <dooglus> ba: apparently dapper (6.06) is going to be supported for 5 (?) years, instead of the usual 18 months, so they put it back to have more time to get it right.
[07:49] <Flannel> ba: xgl works in dapper.  Itll be completely supported in edgy.
[07:49] <nickrud> ba paying suse will benefit us, thanks
[07:49] <paulproteus> nickrud: I can't tell if you're serious.  If you are, how do you figure?
[07:50] <ba> nickrud, it benefits the whole community. thats why i dont understand why people hate novell so much
[07:50] <dooglus> Ademan: I don't know, but something like "sudo /etc/init.d/vsftp restart" I expect.
[07:50] <nickrud> paulproteus, do you know who works for novell?
[07:50] <nickrud> ba, exactly
[07:50] <Ademan> thanks dooglus, i'll go look in init.d
[07:50] <ba> if i had it my way id have a mac anyway haha
[07:51] <Flannel> ba: so, go get BSD ;)
[07:51] <intelikey> what release of ubuntu up till now has been supported for 18 monthes ?
[07:51] <ba> can run x86osx in vmware. cant figure it out nativly yet though
[07:51] <Ademan> by the way, has anyone been having firefox freeze up on them a lot wen they minimize it?
[07:51] <Hobbsee> cafuego_: you should learn to spell :P  the /topic in #ubuntu+2 is wrong :P
[07:51] <Hobbsee> intelikey: all of them.
[07:51] <ba> Flannel. bsd is alright. i just need something thats nice on the desktop. im a podcaster and video blogger
[07:51] <vincenz> why when I do ^A-C in screen do I get /var/run/utmp is too hard to dig in: No such process
[07:51] <vincenz> And why does vim take so LONG to start up
[07:51] <ba> Flannel, i use openbsd when im feeling nerdy
[07:52] <paulproteus> vincenz: Didn't you hear?  vim is bloated.
[07:52] <paulproteus> Emacs is the truly fast and light text editor.
[07:52] <Bilford> where did you see Dapper is delayed
[07:52] <Flannel> ba: podcaster, yep.  youve already fallen into the mac lingo.  at least you didnt say vlog or something stupid like that.
[07:52] <Ademan> dooglus: by the way you hit the nail on the head
[07:52] <vincenz> paulproteus: thank you for wasting my time
[07:52] <intelikey> seems to me, from what i've seen in this 'official support channel'  by the time the new release comes out all the support you get is "you need to upgrade"   which is not support.
[07:52] <dooglus> Ademan: I missed a 'd' I think
[07:52] <ba> Flannel, well they are vlogs.... but i dunno. i run with the whole vlog community and know the people that run freevlog.org and the sorts
[07:53] <dooglus> Ademan: probably the recommended way is to: "sudo invoke-rc.d vsftpd restart"
[07:53] <paulproteus> vincenz: Oh, learn to take a joke. (-:
[07:53] <ba> the free media is going to kick that ass off t.v. i can see it now
[07:53] <Ademan> hehe yeah vsftpd, but still
[07:53] <mjb> heyall does anyone know a way to make a dual screen setup have one monitors metacity windows set to always on visible workspace automatically?
[07:53] <Ademan> invoke-rc.d, what's that do? (for my understanding's sake)
[07:54] <dooglus> mjb: metacity isn't really configurable.  it's the GNOME way.  it's already set up optimally by the GNOME experts.
[07:54] <paulproteus> dooglus: You forgot the scare quotes around "optimally". (-;
[07:54] <dooglus> Ademan: it runs /etc/init.d/<whatever> for you.  check "man invoke-rc.d"
[07:54] <intelikey> calls the init scripts Ademan
[07:55] <mjb> okidoki... is there any way to doc termminal sessions  for tailing log files?
[07:55] <mjb> that you know of?
[07:55] <mjb> that's what I'm trying to do?
[07:56] <dooglus> mjb: 'doc'?  wasn't he one of the 7 dwarves?
[07:56] <intelikey> Ademan also of note; update-rc.d  manupulates the symlinks to the init scripts.
[07:56] <raahuls> hello, i need some help.
[07:56] <mjb> he he as in dock
[07:56] <proconsul> me has forgotten all his wireless knowledge. doh!
[07:56] <Ademan> thanks all
[07:56] <nickrud> paulproteus, scare quotes not needed, it's unscary :)
[07:56] <dooglus> intelikey: did you notice that runlevels 2 and 3 have almost, but not quite, the same things in them?  any idea what runlevel 3 is for?
[07:57] <PORDO> i've upgraded to dapper, and my usb devices aren't being listed under /media/ now.  how can i use lsusb to find which device i need to mount?
[07:57] <proconsul> isnt the hostap driver in the kernel ?
[07:57] <dooglus> nickrud: it's a bit scary.  it would be good if metacity was more configurable.
[07:57] <Ademan> anyone familiar with vsftpd?
[07:57] <whyameye_> is there a system log I can look at?
[07:57] <dooglus> whyameye_: there are lots, in /var/log/*
[07:57] <intelikey> there is an app that logs console/tty actions. mjb if that is your question.
[07:58] <mjb> cool I'll check it out and write an essay...
[07:58] <nickrud> dooglus, we went thru that a long time ago. havoc created a usable window manger, that doesn't scare users.
[07:58] <dooglus> mjb: you can use 'script' to write terminal input and output to a file as it happens.
[07:58] <intelikey> dooglus ubuntu "by default" only uses S 0 1 2 6    thus 3 4 5 are wasted space on the default ub.
[07:58] <raahuls> i just installed ubuntu, and bought a wireless card, but i need some help getting the drivers onto the system.
[07:59] <jon_> nickrud, Madpilot: i did as you suggested, Madpilot. and it no longer lanches a terminal window on startup. BUT, last time i logged into IRC i accidentally fat-fingered Skype to launch. I closed it, asked my Qs of you guys and went off to test.
[07:59] <dooglus> nickrud: right, but allowing me to customise it to my tastes needn't scare users either.  just let me use X resources if you don't want to clutter the GUI
[07:59] <nickrud> and runlevesl 3,4,5 are identitical to 2, except for the number of virtual consoles available
[07:59] <intelikey> tee
[07:59] <jon_> hmm.
[07:59] <dooglus> nickrud: or have gconf keys for the customisable things
[08:00] <zwol> *sigh* allow me to rephrase for raahuls.  he has a laptop, and he needs the wireless card to work.  what is the make and model of the laptop, raahuls?
[08:00] <raahuls> inspiron 3800
[08:00] <dooglus> nickrud: that's not quite true.  2 and 3 are a bit different
[08:00] <jon_> nickrud, Madpilot: now Skype is launching. closing it and selecting svae setup on logoff doesn't make it stop
[08:00] <zwol> oh, it's an external wireless card? what is its make and model, then?
[08:00] <ba> muahaha i have an inspiron 6000. anyone want to buy it
[08:00] <nickrud> dooglus, true. I do miss sawfish in some ways
[08:00] <nickrud> dooglus, where?
[08:00] <rob_> how can i fix the splicing of wmv files?
[08:01] <mjb> maybe I should use ion instead... I think I have a mild case of Autism
[08:01] <raahuls> it is a WNA-1330 wireless G notebook adapter (D-link)
[08:01] <Madpilot> jon_, gah. might be a Skype bug, but I've no idea.
[08:01] <dooglus> nickrud: for example, /etc/rc2.d/S30freq-scaling -> /etc/init.d/freq-scaling.sh exists, but there's nothing similar in level 3
[08:01] <ba> raahuls, does that model not have an internal wifi card?
[08:01] <nickrud> argh, I'm arguing a decision made a couple of years ago, which I had no input into.
[08:02] <jon_> Madpilot. it was the last program i (accidentally) launched before i came into IRC last time.
[08:02] <raahuls> ba - no, no internal wifi
[08:02] <ba> nickrud. dont tell me it was getting married
[08:02] <dooglus> nickrud: also S99stop-readahead -> ../init.d/stop-readahead isn't in level 3, and neither is S10powernowd.early -> ../init.d/powernowd.early
[08:02] <jon_> i had closed it, tho. and saved the setup as i logged off.
[08:02] <nickrud> dooglus, dapper?
[08:02] <intelikey> hehhe here's a good one.
[08:02] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  runlevel
[08:02] <intelikey> unknown
[08:02] <dooglus> nickrud: yesser
[08:02] <Madpilot> jon_, it shouldn't be doing that, AFAIK.
[08:03] <nickrud> cuz I don't see differences in breezy, and so I'll just shut up until I know more then
[08:03] <rob_> specifically WMV3?
[08:03] <jon_> well. i'm gonna sleep on it and see hat happens tomorrow. thanks for your help, Madpilot and nickrud. g'night!
[08:04] <rob_> does anyone know how to get WMV3 files playing correctly?
[08:04] <dooglus> nickrud: looking at the postinst script for powernowd, it looks like it *should* be in both 2 and 3, but it isn't for me..
[08:04] <nickrud> dooglus, you should file bugs, and force a decision that rc3 is not rc2 then
[08:04] <graft> rob_: with what?
[08:04] <rob_> graft, with anything
[08:04] <graft> rob_: try mplayer
[08:04] <PORDO> my usb devices aren't showing up under computer:/// -- :(
[08:05] <jon_> Madpilot, FOUND the issue! Skype stays open on the menu bar. had to close it and it'll probably not launch. g'nite!
[08:05] <rob_> graft, vlc won't play video just audio, everything else splices the video (mplayer included) so i have double vision (each having half the lines if that makes sense)
[08:05] <Madpilot> jon_, cool. hope that fixes it!
[08:05] <graft> splices?
[08:05] <nickrud> dooglus, but don'
[08:05] <dooglus> nickrud: I used to change my setup so that gdm wasn't run in level 2, only in 3; then I could boot into 3 if I wanted X or 2 if I wanted just VCs.  but now that 2 and 3 are different I don't trust booting into 3.
[08:05] <graft> did you do that w32codecs stuff, rob_?
[08:06] <nickrud> t get me wrong, ubuntu has plowed new ground in other things, this may not be bad. I just am ignorant
[08:06] <dooglus> nickrud: do you still have /var/lib/dpkg/info/powernowd.postinst?
[08:06] <nickrud> dooglus, and ingnorance is remediable :)
[08:07] <dooglus> nickrud: if so, what does the 'update-rc.d' line in it say?
[08:07] <PORDO> there's skype for linux?
[08:07] <PORDO> i still don't know any reason anyone would use skype.
[08:07] <dooglus> PORDO: there is
[08:08] <mjb> Hey I've installed java 1.5... does anyone know how to change the default java interpreter for eclipse?
[08:08] <PORDO> do people _want_ to be locked in with a company with closed standards?
[08:08] <dooglus> mjb: probably "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[08:08] <Madpilot> PORDO, apparently :(
[08:08] <mjb> cheers
[08:08] <nickrud> dooglus, it's simply defaults, no special fixes for runlevels
[08:08] <PORDO> SIP or Jingle work for me ;)
[08:08] <PORDO> actually i heard skype was giving out free phone calls to the PSTN now.
[08:09] <dooglus> nickrud: you don't see a line like this: "update-rc.d powernowd.early start 10 2 . >/dev/null" ?
[08:09] <PORDO> with gizmo project i pay 1 per minute.
[08:09] <T`> hi guys, i'm installing ubuntu, is there a net-inst type CD so i dont need to download everything?
[08:09] <graft> PSTN?
[08:09] <nickrud> dooglus, if [ -x "/etc/init.d/powernowd" ] ; then
[08:09] <nickrud>         update-rc.d powernowd defaults >/dev/null
[08:09] <PORDO> the traditional phone network.
[08:09] <PORDO> that dinos still use.
[08:09] <nickrud> dooglus, breezy
[08:09] <graft> (like me)
[08:09] <graft> i never even got a cell phone
[08:10] <dooglus> nickrud: I see that too - that's for 'powernowd', but I'm talking about 'powernowd.early', a separate init script
[08:10] <PORDO> i'm extremely frustrated.  does anyone know how i can get usb devices to show up in computer:// in nautilus?!
[08:10] <PORDO> dapper is pissing me off
[08:10] <T`> hmm
[08:10] <james_> can anyone here help me with my wifi card
[08:10] <T`> any way i can do netinstall for ubuntu?
[08:10] <Flannel> PORDO: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[08:10] <PORDO> lol...okay.
[08:10] <rob_> graft, yes
[08:10] <mjb> cheers Dooglas that worked
[08:10] <vladuz976> is anybody here using TeXmacs? i need to get revtex4 working with it. anybody know how to use that with texmacs?
[08:11] <nickrud> dooglus, that script does not exist in breezy, so ...
[08:11] <dooglus> nickrud: ok...
[08:11] <james_> i just updated my kernel and everything but I still can not figure out how to work my wifi card it is not showing as a device
[08:11] <raahuls> i have a laptop with freshly installed ubuntu, any chance someone here can help me configure my wifi card/get the appropriate drivers installed onto my laptop?
[08:11] <james_> it is a network everywhere nwp11b
[08:11] <nickrud> dooglus, welcome to beating your head against what's not debian :)
[08:11] <nickrud> of course, I'm a year out of date on debian, so I shouldn't even say that anymore
[08:12] <james_> I am useing ubuntu for my linux
[08:12] <james_> <----- really could use some help
[08:12] <dooglus> nickrud: I don't see any /etc/init.d/power* in my debian sid partition
[08:14] <nickrud> dooglus, I dispair that even etch+1 & ubuntu will meet, however much I wish. But, I'm not gonna clutter the field, since I won't be doing the work.
[08:14] <proconsul> I need to blacklist a module, under modprobe.d there are several "blacklist" files, I just add the module name to the main "blacklist" file?
[08:14] <rob_> gaft, actually, mplayer won't play any video, how do i set it up right?
[08:14] <proconsul> right?
[08:14] <crimsun> proconsul: breezy or dapper?
[08:14] <james_> <-------NEEDS HELP WITH WIFI
[08:15] <bimberi_> !wifi
[08:15] <crimsun> james_: your capslock seems to be stuck? ;-)
[08:15] <ubotu> [wifi]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[08:15] <nickrud> james_, if I had any experience, I would try. There will be others who know, who will help
[08:15] <intelikey> oh i must be in runlevel 4  cause that's where all the consoles are at...
[08:15] <james_> thanks nick
[08:15] <james_> sorry crimsum about the caps
[08:15] <james_> had the wrong key down
[08:15] <intelikey> errr james_ check the wiki ?
[08:16] <james_> i tried the link i have seems to be broken
[08:16] <intelikey> !wifi
[08:16] <ubotu> [wifi]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[08:16] <proconsul> crimsun, dapper, I have a demarctech prism wireless card and I think the orinoco module is getting loaded and blocking the driver it actually needs
[08:16] <james_> if you have a wiki i can look at then i will more then happy to check it out
[08:16] <crimsun> proconsul: the syntax is: blacklist module
[08:16] <rob_> how come Mplayer cannot play any video files?
[08:16] <crimsun> proconsul: see any of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[08:16] <rob_> okay, that being a very ignorant question, what would cause mplayer not to play any video files
[08:16] <dooglus> rob_: you need the right video codecs
[08:17] <james_> ok i found a wiki i am gona go and read it and see if i can figure this out
[08:17] <james_> thanks
[08:17] <proconsul> crimsun, yup thats what I thought,
[08:17] <james_> again for the link
[08:17] <james_> talk to you all later
[08:17] <spikeb>  i wonder if it's possible to both work at walmart and have a brain
[08:17] <proconsul> james_, what kind of card?
[08:17] <james_> network everywhere nwp11b
[08:17] <dooglus> !restrictedformats
[08:17] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:17] <dooglus> rob_: see the above link for codecs
[08:19] <rob_> dooglus, i have all of those
[08:19] <dooglus> rob_: do you have an example file that it won't play for you?  a little one perhaps that you can let me try?
[08:20] <proconsul> james_, do you know the chipset?
[08:20] <rob_> dooglus, yes, but i can play the fame file in kaffien and Movie Player (which i think is totem)
[08:20] <rob_> fame=same
[08:20] <PORDO> is there anything i can look at under hal-device-manager to see what a usb device is named under /dev, so i can mount it?
[08:20] <nickrud> spikeb, trust me, you can work for worse that walmart and still have a soul
[08:20] <james_> i want to say atx-100 i have the windows drivers for them if you know how to use ndswrapper
[08:20] <james_> of what ever it is called
[08:20] <PORDO> i have no audio in dapper, so i'm going to save my voice mail to my pmp and listen to it...if i can figure out how to mount it, now that nautilus is sucking.
[08:21] <intelikey> how do you send a file person to person ?
[08:21] <dooglus> rob_: I play everything in mplayer.  it can't play DRM-protected .wmv files, but then again, nothing can...
[08:21] <intelikey> don't answer that.
[08:21] <Blue89> I have stupid question about ubuntu's cd ripping software: why ogg instead of mp3?
[08:21] <spikeb> nickrud: i dont care about souls, i just want brains from people who work at my local walmart!
[08:21] <dooglus> james_: did you get an answer to your "how do I kill X from the command line" question?
[08:21] <outlawcrook> stuck at 640X480 32bit
[08:21] <PORDO> then again, why would anyone want to play a proprietary format.
[08:21] <pitti> PORDO: your device isn't mounted automatically? Can you please file a bug?
[08:21] <outlawcrook> how to get it higher?
[08:21] <spikeb> Blue89: it's set to ogg by default for legal reasons
[08:21] <PORDO> pitti ehh...okay.  where?
[08:21] <Flannel> Blue89: because we cna legally distribute ogg support.  And, ogg is a nice free, open format.
[08:21] <Blue89> ah
[08:21] <pitti> PORDO: also, the 'block.device' property in h-d-m shows you the device
[08:21] <nickrud> spikeb, thats asking for too much. Just accept they have souls
[08:21] <PORDO> pitti could you also tell me how to mount it?
[08:21] <spikeb> nickrud: heh damn it
[08:22] <pitti> PORDO: sure
[08:22] <bimberi> Blue89: ogg is a Free format, mp3 is patent encumbered
[08:22] <outlawcrook> to 1024X768
[08:22] <dooglus> PORDO: the only time I've ever wanted to is when I spent hours downloading it using bittorrent and then realised after that it was DRM protected...
[08:22] <PORDO> what's the full name of the property pitti ?
[08:22] <PORDO> dooglus lol
[08:22] <james_> douglas i did not ask a question abou tthe command line
[08:22] <rob_> graft, dooglus, i just ran mplayer from the command line and it worked... better than anything else too : / ... how come i can't double click a video file then?
[08:22] <Blue89> is mp3 smaller file size than ogg?
[08:22] <pitti> PORDO: but first I'm surprised that it isn't mounted automatically; https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-volume-manager/+filebug is a head-start for filing a bug
[08:22] <pitti> PORDO: the full name *is* block.device'
[08:23] <dooglus> james_: must have been a different james_ then?  (07:36 < james_> nickrud, do you know how to logout xserver from the command line?)
[08:23] <alan|laptop> hi all
[08:23] <Blue89> hi
[08:23] <rob_> holy crap mplayer kicks ass...
[08:23] <pitti> PORDO: just do 'dmesg' and look at the last few lines; it should be something like /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1
[08:23] <nickrud> dooglus, same question, I don't know of a gnome command to do that
[08:23] <pitti> PORDO: and 'pmount-hal /dev/sda1' (or whatever) will mount it
[08:23] <PORDO> pitti i already did that and saw nothing like that
[08:23] <dooglus> nickrud: "sudo invoke-rc.d stop gdm" would do it, no?
[08:24] <nickrud> dooglus, no, that won
[08:24] <overrider> say i install normal ubuntu, but only seldom use the gui. can i just change inittab to 3 or something so it starts up in textmode, and when i need the gui i just init5?
[08:24] <alan|laptop> "collect2: ld returned execution code 1" <-- what package does ld come from ?
[08:24] <pitti> PORDO: you mean, the kernel does not even recognize your device? that's baad
[08:24] <rob_> what would cause mplayer to not work from gui but from cli?
[08:24] <nickrud> 't call all open apps to close safely (wish I knew one)
[08:24] <dooglus> rob_: I only ever use it from the command line.  I have "alias m=mplayer" in my .bashrc, so I just type "m <file>" to play the file
[08:24] <PORDO> [4296921.365000]  usb 5-1: USB disconnect, address 2
[08:24] <PORDO> [4296925.123000]  usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
[08:25] <PORDO> it's in hal-dev-man
[08:25] <rob_> mplayer from cli doesn't have the gui does it?
[08:25] <PORDO> pitti i don't know what the device is called.
[08:25] <pitti> PORDO: well, this is just the USB bus driver, but there's no mesage about the storage device on it
[08:25] <dooglus> nickrud: you want something like clicking the 'close gnome' icon?
[08:25] <nickrud> rob_, gmplayer from the cli
[08:25] <outlawcrook> anyone know how to get my display off of 640X480 too like 1024X768
[08:25] <pitti> PORDO: can you please pastebin your full dmesg?
[08:25] <PORDO> sure
[08:26] <rob_> nickrud, ahh now my video's don't show up, just audio
[08:26] <rob_> ...
[08:26] <outlawcrook> was working great at friends house so must be my monitor drivers it is using
[08:26] <mustard5> !tell outlawcrook about fixres
[08:26] <nickrud> dooglus, no, I want something that tells all apps to close all open files, pop the dialog on the current desktop if needed
[08:26] <intelikey> how the heck does bash call more when there is no "more" installed ?
[08:27] <PORDO> http://pastebin.com/720099
[08:27] <nickrud> dooglus, I am anal about closing open apps before restarting X
[08:27] <dooglus> intelikey: are you sure it's running 'more'?
[08:27] <dooglus> intelikey: check with 'ps' in a separate window
[08:27] <crimsun> 'morning pitti :)
[08:27] <rob_> what would cause gmplayer to not work but mplayer to work perfectly?
[08:27] <intelikey> dooglus it acts just like more and says more...
[08:28] <dooglus> nickrud: you can 'pkill -u nickrud' to kill all your apps
[08:28] <eduedix> hi. i just installed ubuntu on my amd64 box. i have x1600 pro graphic card and cant get x to work. i think vesa drivers dont support my card. so i need to try last ati-drivers 8.24.8. can you please give me a link for an easy installation ?
[08:28] <intelikey> dooglus it has no pid
[08:28] <dooglus> intelikey: in 'more', if you hit 'h' at the 'more' prompt, it shows some help.  does bash's 'more' do that?
[08:28] <pitti> PORDO: that looks horribly incomplete :/
[08:29] <intelikey> must be a bash internal
[08:29] <pitti> PORDO: are you sure that there is a standard partition table on it?
[08:29] <intelikey> dooglus no it doesn't
[08:30] <PORDO> pitti ??
[08:30] <PORDO> that's just the last 20 lines of my dmesg.
[08:30] <dooglus> intelikey: so it's not really 'more' then.  it's just part of bash.  notice also that the real 'more' will show you the current line number when you hit '=', whereas bash's fake 'more' doesn't.
[08:30] <PORDO> well, the ones that occured after i plugged the device in.
[08:30] <bimberi> intelikey: dpkg -S /bin/more  -->  package "util-linux"
[08:30] <pitti> PORDO: yes, I know, but there's no sign of the kernel finding a partition table, let alone partitions
[08:31] <nickrud> dooglus, I don't want to kill apps, I want to save data
[08:31] <watson540> guys i have a question, im trying to compul e DR17, and i keep getting this cursed error!! - aclocal: configure.in: 117: macro `AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library - canssomeone tell me what im missing?!
[08:31] <dooglus> nickrud: like "file blah is modified; do you want to save or discard" kind of questions?
[08:31] <watson540> i didnt see gtk in apt anywhere
[08:31] <intelikey> bimberi i'm not trying to install more. i don't want it.  i have less.
[08:32] <bimberi> intelikey: understood.  just letting you know which package it's in :)
[08:32] <dooglus> watson540: probably libgtkgl2.0-dev
[08:32] <james_> ok i am back
[08:32] <rob_> what would cause gmplayer to not work but mplayer to work perfectly?
[08:32] <intelikey> bimberi it just agrivates me that bash uses it's built in more...   i consider that a bug.
[08:32] <james_> i switched eth cards to my USB port so i can plug in my wifi card so i can get some help on setting it up
[08:32] <james_> can anyone help me out
[08:32] <james_> i am running ubuntu
[08:33] <nickrud> dooglus, yes, exactly. I'm listening, if I missed something ...
[08:33] <dooglus> intelikey: I hate it too.  I wish it would just scroll all that stuff past so I can continue working.  I don't want to have to deal with a fake 'more' prompt.
[08:33] <to0om> could anybody of you try the following: open nautilus, create a folder somewhere, go into that folder, switch to tree view on the left side, right-click onto that folder and select 'Move to trash'?
[08:33] <dooglus> nickrud: no, I don't know the answer.
[08:33] <to0om> doing that, nautilus crashes
[08:33] <watson540> dooglus: i just installed it via apt..no dice :(
[08:33] <nickrud> dooglus, you bas****
[08:33] <nickrud> :)
[08:33] <watson540> am wondering if i even have all my repos in sources.list
[08:33] <intelikey> like s[tab] [tab]   should simply scroll all commands starting with s     like it used too.
[08:34] <intelikey> dooglus prezactly.
[08:34] <watson540> someone said i didnt have gtk installed but i think i do
[08:35] <dooglus> watson540: I would suggest doing the following:  add a "deb-src" line for each "deb" line in /etc/apt/sources.list; then "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get build-dep enlightenment"
[08:35] <eduedix> hi. i just installed ubuntu on my amd64 box. i have x1600 pro graphic card and cant get x to work. i think vesa drivers dont support my card. so i need to try last ati-drivers 8.24.8. can you please give me a link for an easy installation ?
[08:35] <dooglus> watson540: that will install all the packages necessary to build e16, which will be very similar to the ones needed to build e17
[08:36] <watson540> dooglus: well see, i compil;ed all the e17 pkg's from source a few days ago, although i found out later it wasnt an up to date snapshot..
[08:36] <watson540> this time i tried using an .sh script ...
[08:36] <intelikey> add a deb-src line for each of that one deb line....hehhe  :)
[08:36] <watson540> its not even while compiling E i get the error its while compiling some if its aps
[08:37] <watson540> e17 pkgs are changiing all the time, some get tossed away and then new ones pop up
[08:37] <watson540> would this error maybe attribute to me possibly not having gtk installed at all?
[08:37] <dooglus> intelikey: just for you:  add a line saying "set page-completions off" to ~/.inputrc; restart bash; voila
[08:37] <watson540> caus as i said i did an apt-cache search and didnt see a 'gtk2' ppkg
[08:38] <dooglus> watson540: if you didn't have gtk installed, lots of stuff would break.  you might not have the gtk -dev packages though
[08:38] <ppcguy> hey all. Is it possible to roll back to breezy from an upgrade to dapper w/o reinstallin?
[08:38] <nickrud> ppcguy, not a chance
[08:39] <rob_> no one has any ideas? gmplayer = doesn't play, mplayer = works
[08:39] <watson540> well hell, ubun tu comes with gnome and i coulda swore gnome was based on gtk :) which is why im pretty sure i have it
[08:39] <nickrud> ppcguy, sorry to be the messenger of bad news
[08:39] <dooglus> rob_: I've got an idea:  use mplayer!
[08:39] <spikeb> heh
[08:39] <ppcguy> that's what I figured.. No worries and thanx
[08:39] <intelikey> tanks dooglus  /me puts it in /etc/profile & /etc/bash.bashrc  just to be sure it takes... :)
[08:39] <eduedix> hi. i just installed ubuntu on my amd64 box. i have x1600 pro graphic card and cant get x to work. i think vesa drivers dont support my card. so i need to try last ati-drivers 8.24.8. can you please give me a link for an easy installation ?
[08:39] <spikeb> it's libgtk
[08:39] <dooglus> intelikey: it won't work in either of those places.  put it in ~/.inputrc
[08:39] <rob_> dooglus, eh, i like having a button to push if i have to pee and pause my videos
[08:39] <dooglus> rob_: hit the space bar
[08:40] <watson540> eduedix: apt-cache search fglrx
[08:40] <watson540> eduedix: then install the pertaining pkg's that it shows you
[08:40] <spikeb> libgtk2.0-dev for compiling
[08:40] <khermans> who needs help?
[08:40] <khermans> i got 15 minutes
[08:40] <dooglus> rob_: in mplayer you can do everything from the keyboard.  that way your girlfriend won't get annoyed with you if you fiddle with the controls while you're watching a movie.
[08:40] <dooglus> rob_: there's nothing as annoying as a GUI on a movie player
[08:41] <rob_> dooglus, it is me that gets annoyed when my girlfriend fiddles with the controls, and actually it's not the controls, i just want to be able to double click something in nautilus and have it work
[08:41] <intelikey> dooglus ah i missread you as .bashrc
[08:41] <eduedix> watson540: will these directly install for 8.24.8 ?
[08:41] <dooglus> intelikey: to find that I did "man bash" RET /pager RET
[08:41] <rob_> work with mplayer i meant to say, as the default app
[08:41] <intelikey> k
[08:41] <wanozz> Question: Why do for example subtitle load on a movie but not the movie itself and I got some problems to get my audigy 4 to work or give sound ?
[08:41] <watson540> eduedix: i dont know the current version of ati driver in your specific repo
[08:41] <spikeb> you can do that
[08:41] <spikeb> rob_: you can do that
[08:41] <dooglus> rob_: you can tell nautilus to use mplayer.  right-click the movie, select 'properties', then 'open with'
[08:41] <nickrud> khermans, we got a guy that needs to roll back from dapper to breezy
[08:42] <watson540> eduedix: but you asked for an easy way, i reccommend hitting the ubuntu wiki as they have a whole page for this stuff..kjust search it for fglrx
[08:42] <eduedix> watson540: actually i dont know too.. i just installed ubuntu and dont know much about its package system :/
[08:42] <khermans> nickrud, ewww
[08:42] <spikeb> nickrud: not gonna happen. he's going to have to reinstall.
[08:42] <rob_> and it'll be mplayer not gmplayer?
[08:42] <nickrud> khermans, sorry, I had to say that :)
[08:42] <dooglus> rob_: it'll be whatever you tell it to be there.
[08:42] <dooglus> rob_: you can get it to run "/bin/rm -fr /" each time you click on a movie if you like...
[08:42] <spikeb> HEH
[08:43] <rob_> i'll try that
[08:43] <khermans> nickrud, actually ive had great success with Dapper -- except for Espresso
[08:43] <dooglus> I wouldn't
[08:43] <watson540> eduedix: surprising that the regular MESA drivers dont work for ou
[08:43] <rob_> someone might
[08:43] <spikeb> dapper's been painless for me
[08:43] <intelikey> ret /  dooglus  ?   sense when is enter needed to do a / search ?
[08:43] <nickrud> khermans, it was the 15 minutes, I had to do it
[08:43] <spikeb> with the exception of banshee, which now works very well
[08:43] <eduedix> watson540: yes i know :/
[08:43] <dooglus> intelikey: enter was needed to get the 'man 'command to run
[08:43] <to0om> could anybody of you try the following: open nautilus, create a folder somewhere, go into that folder, switch to tree view on the left side, right-click onto that folder, select 'Move to trash' and tell me what happens?
[08:44] <khermans> nickrud, what -- can't just change sources back to Breezy, update, upgrade, dist-upgrade, and reboot???!?!?!  muahahaha
[08:44] <nickrud> khermans, I've done several nice installs with dapper, likewise
[08:44] <watson540> eduedix: the fglrx drivers are prettty painlesss these days :) just run the binary and do a fglrxconfig afterwards :)
[08:44] <eduedix> watson540: so now i am installing xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted-modules-(kernelversion) .. but i think it doesnt install the version 8.24.8
[08:44] <watson540> although i still say hit up the wiki as they use dpkg to rconfigure the driver and its much easier :)
[08:44] <intelikey> dooglus well it didn't seem to work.....  ;/
[08:45] <wanozz> Where is the file that contains the repositaries ?
[08:45] <eduedix> watson540: hmm.. but i think its always better to install from the repo
[08:45] <intelikey> now i'll go man a while
[08:45] <watson540> eduedix: me too :)
[08:45] <dooglus> to0om: in dapper, the nautilus window disappears :)
[08:45] <M_Fatih> hi
[08:45] <dooglus> to0om: are you using dapper too?
[08:45] <watson540> eduedix: dont mis-understand me you install using apt then use dpkg to configure the driver in a GUI
[08:46] <eduedix> watson540: so.. can you tell me what to do for a 8.24.8 installation ? should i touch the serverlist ( i donno the file though)
[08:46] <watson540> only if your nnot familar with XF86Config will you need it though
[08:46] <to0om> yes dooglus
[08:46] <watson540> eduedix: go to ati's site and dopwnload the driver :)
[08:46] <to0om> it just crashes doing that
[08:46] <to0om> i
[08:46] <eduedix> watson540: :P no way to install from the repo ?
[08:46] <to0om> i'd like to send a stack trace to the gnome developers
[08:47] <to0om> but i just can't create one
[08:47] <watson540> eduedix: not for a specific version , i mean if the repo has the version your looking for then great. otherwise you install manual which is
[08:47] <watson540> easy
[08:47] <to0om> because after nautilus is loaded, it goes into the background
[08:47] <watson540> not like yo u have to compile anything :)
[08:47] <intelikey> i found it.  i had trimmed s off of completions  heh works now. dooglus  :)
[08:47] <khermans> to0om, gdb, b main, bt ?
[08:47] <dooglus> how do I view the trash in nautilus?  I just moved a folder there by mistake and want to move it back
[08:48] <eduedix> watson540: ah.. i get you.. hm.. which server link should i add to sourcelist ?
[08:48] <to0om> mm khermans running gdb, it says "Program exited normally."
[08:48] <dooglus> to0om: are you sure it's crashing?
[08:48] <Unenvarjo> hello
[08:48] <to0om> what else dooglus?
[08:48] <dooglus> to0om: it might just be closing the window
[08:48] <khermans> well, then it seems to not have crashed
[08:48] <to0om> why that?
[08:48] <dooglus> to0om: 'cos my other nautilus window stayed open
[08:48] <intelikey> dooglus dubble click rhe trash can
[08:48] <dooglus> to0om: if it had crashed I would expect all the windows to disappear.
[08:48] <dooglus> intelikey: I don't have a trash can - I'm not running GNOME
[08:48] <to0om> hmm but why should it just close the window?
[08:49] <intelikey> err you may be set to single click
[08:49] <to0om> why should it do that dooglus? just close the window?
[08:49] <dooglus> to0om: I guess it's a bug.
[08:49] <intelikey> look in .nautilus/trash  ?
[08:49] <to0om> hmm ok then i can't create a stack trace it seems
[08:50] <dooglus> intelikey: it appears that typing "trash://" into the address bar goes to the trash
[08:50] <dooglus> intelikey: (lucky guess :)
[08:50] <dooglus> does nautilus not remember where things in the trash used to be?  I don't see an 'undelete' option in there.
[08:51] <eduedix> watson540: i actually dont know how you call the file name that contains repo servers list.. where is that file ?
[08:51] <intelikey> chat you check the address via the left side folders ?
[08:51] <intelikey> chat ha can
[08:52] <dooglus> eduedix: /etc/apt/sources.list you mean?
[08:52] <metatag> !seen metatag
[08:52] <ubotu> metatag is currently on #ubuntu (5m 9s)
[08:52] <dooglus> to0om: I don't think it's crashing - it's just not behaving as I would expect it to.
[08:53] <eduedix> dooglus: ah.. that must be. which server contains ati-8.24.8 driver ?
[08:53] <Stormx2> How do I add a command to startup? Adding it to sessions does nothing. Its a java server so the command doesn't finish.
[08:53] <to0om> ok, i've just reported it dooglus
[08:53] <Serii> I'm trying to connect to VPN server using pptp, but I've got "not replacing default route to eth1" and "cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP". What does this mean ??
[08:53] <maswan> is launchpad known to be down (for anyone else that is)?
[08:54] <khermans> Serii, probably means your don't have the router specified'
[08:54] <nickrud> maswan, good link here
[08:54] <intelikey> dooglus & to0om may i sujest you check the launcher it may be an "alternatives" error or something like that.
[08:54] <rocky> sorry Maswan don't know
[08:55] <maswan> Hmm.. I can't get through my transit provider with a traceroute either.
[08:55] <eduedix> dooglus: any idea ?
[08:55] <khermans> Serii, proxy ARP refers to ARP requests that are forwarded to another network, usually by your router
[08:55] <maswan> Yeah, gah, telia.net seems to have dropped the ubuntu.com net.
[08:56] <Serii> khermans, connection seems to be established, but ping says "packets where filtered".
[08:56] <dooglus> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:56] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu16.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 8129 kB, Installed size: 23544 kB
[08:56] <dooglus> eduedix: it seems to be in the 'restricted' repository
[08:56] <khermans> Serii, you have two different interfaces?  eth0 and eth1?
[08:56] <dooglus> intelikey: what launcher are you talking about?
[08:57] <khermans> Serii, might be safer to disable the wifi one, and only use your wired connection for the VPN
[08:57] <Serii> khermans, yes. eth0 for local network. eth1 for adsl connection
[08:57] <eduedix> dooglus: but it still tries to install 8.16 drivers :/
[08:58] <dooglus> to0om: try this:  use nautilus to view any folder you like, then, from the command line, rename the folder.  the nautilus window will close.
[08:58] <intelikey> the one that isn't working dooglus, for to0om.   did i misread the error.  starts ok from cli but launcher (probably in the menus) doesn't work... ?
[08:58] <dooglus> eduedix: I don't know anything about ATI, sorry.
[08:58] <dooglus> intelikey: I think you're thinking of rob_, not to0om?
[08:59] <dooglus> intelikey: rob_'s bu**ered off already.
[08:59] <intelikey> oh maybe.
[08:59] <degreez> question, whats the syntaxt to install a .rpm or a .tar.gz file
[08:59] <Serii> khermans, i don't have wifi, i use wired dsl modem
[09:00] <intelikey> i had been out of the room... so i prolly did run two issues tofather.
[09:00] <dooglus> degreez: .rpm files aren't really suited for ubuntu - ubuntu uses .deb files.  you can use a program called 'alien' to install them, but it's better to find a .deb, or compile from source.
[09:00] <khermans> Serii, i'm not sure about the VPN issue :-(
[09:00] <intelikey> togather even
[09:00] <dooglus> degreez: the .tar.gz is probably the source code; use "tar xf <file.tar.gz>" to extract it, then read the readme
[09:00] <wanozz> Can anyone tell me how to get a soundblaster audigy 4 to work ?
[09:00] <Serii> khermans, thanks anyway
[09:00] <degreez> thanks dooglus, will try.
[09:01] <spikeb> bari was a wobbly
[09:01] <spikeb> no wonder the FBI and police hated her
[09:01] <spikeb> wrong window
[09:01] <dooglus> degreez: if you manage to find a .deb, do "sudo dpkg -i file.deb" to install it
[09:01] <eduedix> where are the downloaded package files ?
[09:02] <dooglus> eduedix: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:02] <eduedix> dooglus: ok thanks ^^
[09:02] <dooglus> eduedix: "locate .deb" would have told you
[09:02] <intelikey> degreez for rpm  alien  but you don't want too.  and for tgz tar -xzf filename.tgz && cd filename && (READ the README) ./configure && make && make install    but you really don't want to...   that's the syntax.   now to install apps.  just use the packagemanager :)
[09:03] <Pimpshizzled> hello?
[09:04] <Pimpshizzled> anyone awake?
[09:04] <intelikey> no
[09:04] <dooglus> intelikey: I like "sudo checkinstall" instead of "make install" - it builds a .deb file, so you can easily uninstall it again after if you want to.
[09:04] <dooglus> ZZZzzz...
[09:04] <Pimpshizzled> lol :P
[09:04] <Stormx2> w00t free skype!
[09:04] <Stormx2> (SkypeOut I mean)
[09:05] <Pimpshizzled> i came on to ask a quick question, i hate to sound the desperate noob, but if anyone has the patience, id like to ask a question
[09:05] <intelikey> dooglus good point.... just used to  make uninstall
[09:05] <khermans> Stormx2, try Gizmo Project instead
[09:06] <intelikey> no questions in here mate.  we always bite noob's heads off......
[09:06] <intelikey> :)
[09:06] <Pimpshizzled> ok, is the forums ok for ubuntu?
[09:07] <intelikey> !ask
[09:07] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[09:07] <dooglus> intelikey: not all makefiles provide an 'uninstall' target, and anyway they can't be trusted to uninstall everything they installed.  using checkinstall you can be sure that the uninstall is clean, because it uses dpkg
[09:07] <Hobbsee> Pimpshizzled: dont ask to ask, just ask
[09:08] <khermans> Hobbsee, is it okay to ask to not ask to ask?
[09:08] <Pimpshizzled> basically, just ripped the install cd for unbuntu, was going to put it on a second machine, which has decided not to work, wondered if there would be any way i could just set up a seperate partition on this computer  (with xp on) and try it that way
[09:08] <Pimpshizzled> i just wanna jump in the deep end, thats the best way to learn i think :D
[09:08] <Hobbsee> khermans: hehe.  yes
[09:08] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: the installer will offer to resize your existing XP partition for you.  make sure it has enough space on it
[09:09] <nixanut> hey, i've been looking around some forums for getting suspend and hibernate to work on a dell inspiron 600m with breezy, but can't seem to find out anything...anyone got some info they could share?
[09:09] <Hobbsee> !tell Pimpshizzled about dualboot
[09:09] <spikeb> wonder if the bot does greetings
[09:09] <Hobbsee> !hello
[09:09] <ubotu> Hi, hobbsee!
[09:09] <Hobbsee> spikeb: it does.
[09:09] <spikeb> ahh cool
[09:10] <intelikey> Pimpshizzled you bet.  linux likes to co-habitate hdd's
[09:10] <khermans> Pimpshizzled, forced immersion -- after Windows XP SP2 Genuine Advantage took down my parents computer, I replaced it with Dapper -- never looked back
[09:10] <spikeb> Hobbsee: and hello from me, as well :)
[09:10] <zcat[1] > can anyone figure out wht I have _never_ been able to resize an ntfs partition, even when it's a completely clean install and only using 2G of a 20G drive and I freshly defragged right after the install?
[09:10] <Hobbsee> hi spikeb :P
[09:10] <Pimpshizzled> dapper?
[09:10] <Pimpshizzled> ahh, the new one which they wont send out yet? :P
[09:10] <khermans> Pimpshizzled, the new version of Ubuntu, official in two weeks
[09:10] <Pimpshizzled> lol =) gotchya
[09:11] <khermans> Pimpshizzled, you can easily install Dapper -- it's still in beta though
[09:11] <zcat[1] > released in two weeks.. been runnign it for nearly two minths already :)
[09:11] <zcat[1] > damn this keyboard sucks!
[09:11] <WarOfAttrition> windows doesn't like to cohabitate hdds though
[09:11] <Pimpshizzled> this is my first experience with linux in general ;) so ill try this release
[09:11] <dooglus> zcat[1] : if the install disk can't do it, try running ntfsresize from the commandline in VC2
[09:11] <intelikey> Pimpshizzled it doesn't live on ntfs or fat32 file systems though.    but it will make it's own fs on the partition/or free space provided for it.
[09:11] <khermans> Pimpshizzled, actually, I think you'd have better luck with Dapper!!
[09:11] <Pimpshizzled> well, i have a second HD which i could jsut format and install ubuntu to is that would work better
[09:12] <WarOfAttrition> windows deleted linux for me twice in the past
[09:12] <zcat[1] > I have never managed to resize a windows partition using the stuff on the CD, I always end up with it failing and i get a ting 8M partition at the end of the drive..
[09:12] <zcat[1] > *tiny
[09:12] <zcat[1] > .. not many distros will fit on an 8M partition ;(
[09:12] <intelikey> no don't format it.  let linux do that.  it is going to anyway durring the install Pimpshizzled
[09:12] <Unenvarjo> I've never had windows deleting linux from me, not even the mbr, then again, windows is usually there first.
[09:13] <dooglus> zcat[1] : last time I tried resizing an NTFS partition, the install disk failed to do it, without giving an error message.  in the end I used ntfsresize from the command line, and it failed as well, but told me how to fix it.
[09:13] <zcat[1] > windows always overwrites the MBR.. it's no big issue, just bring up a shell from a live cD or the install CD and reinstall grub.
[09:13] <Unenvarjo> yeah, that it does.
[09:13] <Pimpshizzled> so i cant tell ubuntu to install to my second hd? :) got a lot of stuff on the drive with windows on, so it might be safer to install there dya think?
[09:13] <zcat[1] > dooglus: ahhh.. so it's not just me!!
[09:13] <dooglus> zcat[1] : it told me to boot into windows and run "scandisk/f" or some such, which found and fixed some inconsistancy on the NTFS partition.  after I had done that, the install disk was able to resize the NTFS partition.
[09:14] <dooglus> zcat[1] : I would say that the bug here is that the installer doesn't tell you why it is failing, and doesn't suggest running that windows command.
[09:14] <zcat[1] > Pimpshizzled: second drive is definately the easiest option!
[09:14] <WarOfAttrition> windows xp for me ignored to spare an ext3 partition more than once
[09:14] <dooglus> zcat[1] : I don't remember the exact windows command, but 'ntfsresize' will tell you
[09:14] <Pimpshizzled> ^-^ waaaay, i got something right then zcat, lol
[09:14] <Pimpshizzled> well, thanks for your help guys, im going to try ubuntu
[09:15] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: good luck
[09:15] <ompaul> Pimpshizzled, don't try, just do :-)
[09:15] <Pimpshizzled> hopefully, it all goes well and i can kiss goodbye to windows fer good
[09:15] <WarOfAttrition> I think a better way to put it would be, windows likes to be installed on the first partition, or it throws a tantrum
[09:15] <dooglus> to0om: are you going to, or did you already, report that nautilus 'bug'?
[09:15] <zcat[1] > scandisk /f ... ok. Will try that sometime.. havn't got a spare machine to play with at the moment, my test machine died horribly :(
[09:15] <intelikey> WarOfAttrition i know how to stop that.....  mke2fs /dev/hda   and windows will not mess with it... :)
[09:16] <dooglus> zcat[1] : I'm not sure if it was 'scandisk/f' - it was something like that.  get ntfsresize to tell you it
[09:16] <to0om> hm i already did dooglus
[09:16] <nixanut> so, if someone was to install dapper now, will they have to reinstall after the final version is released, or just run an update script?
[09:16] <dooglus> to0om: OK, cool.
[09:16] <to0om> shouldn't i have done that?
[09:16] <zcat[1] > where is ntfsresize/
[09:17] <WarOfAttrition> It wont mess with it, but then windows will refuse to install perhaps
[09:17] <zcat[1] > I set up destiny's login in dapper with the blue / green toolbar and bliss wallpaper.. it looks soooo much like winXP..
[09:17] <dooglus> to0om: which package did you report it against?
[09:18] <zcat[1] > i need to find a really XPlike set of icons..
[09:18] <WarOfAttrition> windows sees ext3 on the main partition, it takes it's ball and goes home, or overwrites it
[09:18] <intelikey> gurenteed it will refuse to install   :)
[09:18] <Hobbsee> nixanut: no, just update
[09:18] <Hobbsee> and upgrade
[09:19] <nixanut> ah, ok
[09:19] <zcat[1] > Ohhh... and I need to write a program that displays "you may be the victim of software counterfieting" in the toolbar too.. :)
[09:19] <nixanut> i'm wanting to do that...since it'll be out soon anyways
[09:19] <WarOfAttrition> so I see no sense in having windows on the same hard disk as linux, windows is dangerous
[09:19] <ompaul> intelikey, windows is the problem, you did that wrong, the hard drive is the kid and putting windows on it is like giving a 3 year old two bottles of highly fizzy caffeine laced drinks, solve the problem
[09:19] <intelikey> WarOfAttrition we keep saying "windows" in a very generic way.... it's only windows xp that does that though.
[09:20] <dooglus> zcat[1] : if you boot the install disk, then hold control and alt then press F2, you'll get to a shell prompt.
[09:20] <dooglus> at that prompt, you can run ntfsresize
[09:20] <zcat[1] > ahhh, good..
[09:20] <dooglus> zcat[1] : I think it's /usr/sbin/ntfsresize, but it's in the PATH anyway
[09:20] <WarOfAttrition> only windows xp does it in that way. I think all windows since 98 at least have done these stunts
[09:20] <WarOfAttrition> once, windows 98 destroyed an ntfs partition for me
[09:21] <intelikey> ompaul you must not have read the sulution i posted....  "mke2fs /dev/hda"   fixed.   aka no more windows.
[09:21] <dooglus> I've seen windows offer "this drive isn't readable; format?" when I click on an ext3 partition
[09:21] <lwizardl> how do I mount a windows ntfs partition so I can copy my files over and the fdisk it
[09:21] <Remy> hey guys, does anyone know of a html editor for ubuntu like microsoft's frontpage ?
[09:21] <dooglus> Remy: bluefish?
[09:21] <zcat[1] > no point playing with breezy anyhow.. I'll wait until dapper is out.. I've been flogging them off to ppl with a quickstart guide and too many ppl aren't prepared to toss or even reinstall windows.. If I can provide reliable advice on resizing there's a chance they'll actually install it!!
[09:22] <lwizardl> remy: bluefish i think it was is a linux html editor
[09:22] <Remy> will try it.  thanks
[09:22] <dooglus> Remy: there's another one that I've seen recommended a few times, but I forget its name
[09:22] <Remy> !html editor
[09:22] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Remy
[09:22] <intelikey> never had trubble with 98 or ME doing anything like that without asking WarOfAttrition but i wont say it cant happen.
[09:22] <ompaul> intelikey, but hitting windows is pointless :-) removing it on the other hand has a point (and yes I did read it, read mine again ;-))
[09:23] <zcat[1] > i think 98 would reinstall the MBR too.. fairly certain..
[09:23] <WarOfAttrition> I think it depends on bios settings intelikey, but it happened to me
[09:23] <dooglus> Remy: run "apt-cache search HTML editor | grep -i html | grep -i edit" to get a list of suggestions
[09:23] <mustard5> with win98 you need the boot floppy to reinstall the MBR I think
[09:23] <zcat[1] > .. one thing for sure, vista is guaranteed to add a whole new layer of incompatability..
[09:23] <WarOfAttrition> so windows even hates its future self
[09:24] <zcat[1] > nah, quite sure the 98 install nukes the MBR too..
[09:24] <intelikey> zcat[1]  yes 98 95 also installed mbr... but mbr is no biggy
[09:24] <rob> anyone have problems with sound with Flash in Firefox?
[09:24] <WarOfAttrition> you need a boot disk for sure, since win98 isn't bootable, but I made a bootable win98 disk
[09:24] <dooglus> Remy: I remembered.  It's called 'nvu'.  Check that out too :)
[09:24] <Remy> k
[09:25] <zcat[1] > same.. I had a tiny drive with DOS.. no way there was enough room to dualboot so I just went 1005 linux..
[09:25] <Remy> thanks dooglus  :)
[09:25] <zcat[1] > slackware with iirc 1.1.4 kernel..
[09:25] <intelikey> win98 not bootable ?
[09:25] <WarOfAttrition> so in short windows can't even stand other versions of itself
[09:25] <WarOfAttrition> the original win98 cds aren't bootable
[09:25] <intelikey> in what country WarOfAttrition ?
[09:26] <WarOfAttrition> in any win98 cd in north america I would say
[09:26] <to0om> dooglus, what do you mean?
[09:26] <to0om> which package?
[09:26] <zcat[1] > windows will share with other versions of windows quite nicely..
[09:26] <dooglus> to0om: where did you file the bug?
[09:26] <intelikey> WarOfAttrition the one i'm looking at is...
[09:26] <to0om> at bugzilla.gnome.org
[09:26] <WarOfAttrition> zcat, only if fat32 is the main partition
[09:26] <to0om> dooglus,
[09:27] <WarOfAttrition> fat32 + ntfs dont get along
[09:27] <waky> mh i have a litte problem
[09:27] <waky>  http://pastebin.com/720156 <. plz look at this
[09:27] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:27] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[09:27] <intelikey> i think it may depend on whether it was oem cd or venella windows cd
[09:27] <zcat[1] > wellll.. XP can still read fat32.
[09:27] <waky> sudo module-assistant a-i fglrx this was the command
[09:27] <WarOfAttrition> actually, I had a hell of a time installing win98 on anything but the c drive, I think I gave up
[09:27] <Remy> dooglus - NVU is pefect.  Thanks :)
[09:28] <dooglus> Remy: did you try bluefish too?
[09:28] <WarOfAttrition> but try installing win xp with ntfs, then win98 on the 2nd partition, not happening easily
[09:28] <zcat[1] > OEM cd's usually just nuke the whole drive, mbr and partiton table and all
[09:28] <ompaul> can we take the windows stuff to #windows and leave some room for anyone who has a Ubuntu question?
[09:28] <Remy> dooglus - yes, I like NVU more allready :D
[09:28] <dooglus> Remy: ok, cool.
[09:29] <dooglus> I've got a ubuntu question...
[09:29] <Remy> dooglus, it's just cause I'm quite used to frontpage, and NVU is at first glance more similar to it than bluefish
[09:29] <dooglus> I quite often use the computers in an office near me.  They all run Windows.  I'd like to use ubuntu on them, but I'm not allowed to install it.
[09:29] <dooglus> I could use the live CD, but then I can't keep my files anywhere.  So...
[09:29] <Remy> dooglus  - keep a live CD handy next to each one ?
[09:29] <Remy> :-P
[09:29] <zcat[1] > dooglus: when I find a good set of XL-like icons I'll build up a WinXP theme for gnome you can have..
[09:30] <Remy> or alternatively setup dual boot
[09:30] <Remy> !dual boot
[09:30] <ubotu> Remy: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:30] <dooglus> is there any way I can make a big file in the NTFS file system of the PC, then make a Linux filesystem in that big file?
[09:30] <zcat[1] > I used to dual boot.. Linux and FreeBSD :)
[09:30] <ompaul> waky, did you try these instructions for Ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:30] <dooglus> apparently it's safe to write NTFS so long as you don't create, delete, rename or change the size of files...
[09:30] <WarOfAttrition> winxp theme? yuk!
[09:30] <dooglus> so what I suggest should be possible, and safe.  but how do I do it?
[09:30] <WarOfAttrition> I recommend you not mess with ntfs writing in linux
[09:31] <waky> ompaul i use dapper an a ati 9600 Xt but the Xorg7 make many trouble
[09:31] <ompaul> dooglus, it ain't - you cant write to NTFS using Ubuntu
[09:31] <spikeb> dooglus: a better idea would be to carry around a livecd and usb stick
[09:31] <waky> so now i like to install the new driver but a error
[09:31] <degreez> hey does anyone know where its possible to play graphic accelerated 32-bit games in ubuntu?
[09:31] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: apparently the tricky bit of NTFS is in creating and deleting files, or changing their sizes.  modifying existing files is apparently quite safe.
[09:31] <ompaul> waky, that page I showed you is how to do it in ubuntu
[09:31] <waky> ok
[09:31] <waky> thanks
[09:31] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[09:31] <intelikey> dooglus run the live save to usb key  or cdrw ?
[09:31] <degreez> */whether
[09:31] <zcat[1] > dooglus: no, the tricky bit with ntfs IS REINSTALLING WINDOWS AFTER lINUX TOTALLY TRASHES IT.. WHICH IT TENDS TO DO.
[09:32] <zcat[1] > Oops, sorry about caps.
[09:32] <Remy> dooglus - spikeb's suggestion is a pretty good one :)
[09:32] <Remy> USB thumb drives are usually a simple plug n play matter
[09:32] <ompaul> zcat[1] , most unlike you :-)
[09:32] <WarOfAttrition> modifying their filemanes maybe dooglus? it's experimental at best, if you care about preserving the files there I would say don't even mess with that, just mount read only ntfs
[09:32] <zcat[1] > use a usb drive or move things over the network with samba.. you'll save yourself a world of hurt.
[09:32] <dooglus> Remy: hmmm.  I don't have a USB key though.  I guess I could buy one, but arent' they quite limited in size?  like to 2 or 4 Gb?
[09:33] <Remy> dooglus - yup
[09:33] <khermans> dooglus, just use gmail and mail them to yourself!
[09:33] <spikeb> yeah, but all you're doing is saving to it, not installing on it
[09:33] <zcat[1] > switching screens.. I have a big17" on my laptop so the screen's not right in front of me. makes typing hard.
[09:33] <intelikey> simmer down ompaul .......
[09:33] <WarOfAttrition> but still the performance when reading ntfs files on linux is horrible, you're better off copying them to linux and using them there
[09:33] <Remy> dooglus - if you want to lash out a couple a hundred $ you could always buy a laptop size external hdd
[09:33] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: I mean to make a single large file in NTFS, and use it as a Linux filesystem.  As far as NTFS is concerned it's a single large file.
[09:34] <dooglus> Remy: hmmm.  I already did.  :)  I wonder where I put it...
[09:34] <dooglus> Remy: I've got a feeling I left it about 1000 miles away from where I am now.
[09:34] <ompaul> intelikey, I didn't touch him, I was merely surprised
[09:34] <intelikey> dooglus like an iso maybe ?
[09:34] <Remy> dooglus - something like : http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/4469819807086d3c2741c0a87f9c06ef/Product/View/XH8253
[09:34] <zcat[1] > that's better. main machine, nice keyboard..
[09:34] <Remy> lol
[09:35] <intelikey> :)
[09:35] <dooglus> intelikey: you can just "mkfs" on any file you like I think.  it doesn't have to be a /dev/hda1 or some such.
[09:35] <zcat[1] > I got 4 17" crt's today for $2 each.. it of a bargain I thought..
[09:35] <zcat[1] > *bit
[09:35] <Remy> wow
[09:35] <Remy> can't wait for 17" lcd's to be that cheap :D
[09:35] <WarOfAttrition> do they work?
[09:36] <zcat[1] > yeah, one's got a bit of arcing but that's easyily fixed
[09:36] <dooglus> Remy: oh, I see.  I misunderstood... my external HDD is about the same size as a laptop, not a laptop's hdd :)
[09:36] <degreez> they must have been diving into a pool off those monitors.
[09:36] <WarOfAttrition> probably stolen :))
[09:37] <zcat[1] > everyon's moving to LCD's ..
[09:37] <asdx> I moved to LCD's
[09:37] <WarOfAttrition> not me
[09:37] <degreez> what do u think is the next step after LCD;s anyone here of any new upcoming technology?
[09:37] <asdx> but my brother says LCD's sucks for gamers
[09:37] <WarOfAttrition> LCDs show about 2/3 the colors of CRT
[09:37] <untung> next after lcd is organic lcd
[09:37] <zcat[1] > So now I can flog off all my old 15" monitors on trademe ..
[09:37] <asdx> organic lcd?
[09:37] <intelikey> dooglus yes that's what i was saying.   dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile.iso count=97654487 && mkisofs bigfile.iso then you can mount ir rw use is when finished if you like burn to disk from either side....
[09:38] <zcat[1] > oled ?
[09:38] <untung> sony has make some for camera
[09:38] <degreez> zcat, whats this trademe site u speak off?
[09:38] <zcat[1] > NZ's version of ebay
[09:38] <degreez> got a link
[09:38] <zcat[1] > trademe.co.nz
[09:38] <degreez> are u from nz?
[09:38] <WarOfAttrition> I'd rather have a plasma screen anyways
[09:38] <eduedix> how can i use trq layout in xorg ? i still cant type some characters
[09:39] <dooglus> intelikey: I'd probably use ext3 instead of isofs
[09:39] <zcat[1] > (also check out the tardme.co.nz parody site..)
[09:39] <untung> http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/specsformats/organic_OLEDs_1.htm
[09:39] <watson540> wel shit gtk 2.8 and 2.6 both give me compile errors
[09:39] <watson540> 11 wtf
[09:39] <watson540> 1111
[09:39] <watson540> anyone kno0w a repo that offers gtk2?
[09:39] <watson540> cuz mine dont
[09:39] <dooglus> intelikey: the machines are on the LAN, so I wouldn't need to burn the files.  heh, in fact why don't I just use a server on the LAN for file storage :)
[09:39] <watson541> shit guys!!
[09:39] <degreez> yeh i helped a mate setup a 42"plasma on the weekend, he was playing a game in 1280x1240, latest panasonic design.. size is incredible, contrast and texture is still somewhat unstable.
[09:40] <watson541> for some reason none of my repos offer gtk2!! and both versions 2.8 and 2.6 gice different frigging compile errors!! what a piece of jiunk
[09:40] <dooglus> watson541: what errors?
[09:40] <untung> samsung has announced the largest OLED  http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/emergingtech/0,39020357,39155141,00.htm
[09:40] <watson541> gdk-pixbuf-alias.h:387: error: 'gdk_pixdata_to_csource' aliased to undefined symbol 'IA__gdk_pixdata_to_csource'
[09:41] <watson541> make[4] : *** [gdk-pixbuf.lo]  Error 1
[09:41] <watson541> that one for 2.6
[09:41] <WarOfAttrition> I've seen pretty perfect plasmas, you got to be loaded to get them though
[09:41] <watson541> make[4] : Leaving directory `/media/hdc6/gtk+-2.6.0/gdk-pixbuf'
[09:41] <watson541> although i still think i have gtk, just not 2.6 i think its versio n 2.4
[09:41] <watson541> this erropr is killing me though!!! i never had so much problem compiling something!@!!
[09:41] <zcat[1] > Probably going to be 2deg. again tonight.. I should leave all these CRT's on just to keep the place warm..
[09:41] <untung> hi, anyone know how to rotate screen in ubuntu?
[09:42] <untung> i want to set up my lcd in vertical view
[09:42] <watson541> Running aclocal...
[09:42] <watson541> aclocal: configure.in: 123: macro `AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library
[09:42] <intelikey> dooglus that's what i've been saying about linux for years now.   there is your way, my way, and probably a better way.   but not a "right way"  that falls to preferance....
[09:42] <watson541> that friggin error!! i see SOOO many posts about it on google but NONE mentiopn how to fix it!!!
[09:42] <intelikey> :_
[09:42] <watson541>  opnly resolution i saw was to run aclocal manuallly but it didnt work
[09:42] <Manager> ubun2
[09:42] <WarOfAttrition> how does reiserfs compare to ext3
[09:43] <mutante> reiserfs is supposedly better if you have a large number of small files
[09:43] <mutante> said some test i had to take
[09:43] <watson541> dooglus: and i installed pretty much every gtk dev pkg i could find and anything i considered remotely feasable to my application
[09:43] <zcat[1] > WarOfAttrition: I've been told it's better but I can't really tell the difference..
[09:43] <WarOfAttrition> better in performance?
[09:44] <intelikey> WarOfAttrition about the same. @ <WarOfAttrition> how does reiserfs compare to ext3
[09:44] <mutante> depending on the average size of your files
[09:44] <mutante> one or the other is performing better..afaik
[09:44] <zcat[1] > supposed to be a bit better, faster cos it's designed as a journalling FS, ext3 is  hack on top of ext2
[09:44] <slackern> reiserfs is really slow to mount if you have big partitions
[09:45] <WarOfAttrition> I see
[09:45] <slackern> This time i reinstalled i went with reiserfs instead of ext3 and mounting a 200gb partition takes maybe 10 seconds, it's not too bad but enough compared to ext3
[09:45] <zcat[1] > You'd probably have to run benchmarks to tell the difference, you won't really notice it in ordinary use..
[09:46] <mutante> WarOfAttrition: any plans of booting multiple OSes though?
[09:46] <dooglus> watson541: did you try using a different version of autoconf?
[09:46] <WarOfAttrition> not on the same hard disk, maybe just different distrubutions of lin
[09:46] <dooglus> watson541: I use reiserfs on all my partitions, and have never had any problems with it, but several people have told me I shouldn't.
[09:47] <dooglus> watson541: apparently ext3 is safer in some way, and not noticeably slower for common tasks
[09:47] <watson541> dooglus: wrong person :)
[09:47] <dooglus> watson541: you begin with a 'wa' - that's close enough for irssi :)
[09:47] <watson541> dooglus: ;p;
[09:47] <watson541> dooglus: lol
[09:47] <zcat[1] > dorel_: yeah, whatever..
[09:47] <watson541> dooglus: i know good ol nick completion
[09:47] <mutante> Wa != wa for irssi
[09:48] <slackern> using bootchart my mounting starts after ~17 seconds of bootup and the mounting is done at 31 seconds.
[09:48] <intelikey> all i know is rieserfs on this 10k uw scsi hdd will make the cpu cry uncle....
[09:48] <watson541> dooglus: except im used to rizon where everyone is dumb and dont know about nick compleytion :)
[09:48] <dooglus> watson541: I think 'wa' == 'Wa' for irssi.  even if I type "Wa"<TAB> it still completes to your name, not WarOfAttrition's
[09:48] <watson541> dooglus: although itd be nice if you're genius brain could figger my problem out :)
[09:48] <mutante> if i type Wa<tab> i get
[09:48] <mutante> WarOfAttrition:
[09:49] <watson541> dooglus: yeah irssi completions is awesome , if someone has a nick such as [ex] watson i can ust type exw and TAB to complete it :)
[09:49] <watson541> Irssi 0.8.10 (20060326) - http://irssi.org/
[09:49] <watson541> :)
[09:49] <dooglus> I thought 'wa<TAB>' was supposed to complete to the 'wa...' nick who spoke most recently, but even when WarOfAttrition had just spoken it was still completing to watson541.
[09:49] <mutante> Irssi: Client: irssi 0.8.10 (20051211 0941) .hmmm
[09:50] <watson541> dooglus: yah not sure bro, just keep hitting tab, you'll get there evntually :)
[09:50] <WarOfAttrition> dooglus, here it gives a list of all names starting with wa if you do that
[09:50] <watson541> its probbaly an alias you can set
[09:50] <intelikey> in bx if i type Wa  or  wa and tab i get a list of all wa* Wa* WA* nicks.
[09:50] <watson541> seeing as there is soo much configurability to irssi
[09:50] <WarOfAttrition> I have to put in more than two letters
[09:51] <mutante> oh wow, that seems to be it indeed, it picks the one who spoke most recently
[09:51] <watson541> i can just tab thru my nicks tilli  gte the one i need
[09:51] <zcat[1] > intelikey: xchat's the same.. if more than one matches it shows all of them and I type a few more letters..
[09:51] <WarOfAttrition> but xchat doesnt make them selectable does it?
[09:51] <watson541> xchat can burn in hell lol
[09:51] <zcat[1] > nope..
[09:51] <chari0t> I'm using xchat, and I can hit tab and it cycles thru names
[09:51] <WarOfAttrition> I must be using an old version then
[09:51] <intelikey> yeah depneds on the uniqueness of the leters.
[09:52] <asdx> i'm using mirc
[09:52] <dooglus> chari0t: I can do that in irssi too, but it involves looking at what I'm typing...
[09:52] <chari0t> oh yeah. there's that
[09:52] <zcat[1] > I think epic cycles thought them.. can't remember
[09:52] <watson541> dooglus: so no more bright idead on my gtk problem?
[09:52] <zcat[1] > gonna have to go soon anyhow
[09:52] <dooglus> watson541: try a different version of autoconf
[09:52] <WarOfAttrition> so xchat sucks?
[09:52] <watson541> dooglus: ok
[09:53] <WarOfAttrition> what's the best irc client?
[09:53] <intelikey> chari0t that is adjustable in xchat  by entering it's setup and selecting/deselecting  "old style nick completion"
[09:53] <WarOfAttrition> linux I mean
[09:53] <watson541> i need to look into changing my nick comletion so it looks prettier instead of just putting a : after the name
[09:53] <asdx> Warlord384: mIRC
[09:53] <chari0t> oh. = )
[09:53] <mutante> hehe
[09:53] <mutante> another nick complete;)
[09:53] <zcat[1] > I know a guy who used to just telnet into the servers..
[09:53] <watson541> haha check THIS out!
[09:54] <watson541> ~/ apt-get remove autoconf
[09:54] <watson541> Reading package lists... Done
[09:54] <watson541> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:54] <watson541> The following packages will be REMOVED: autoconf automake1.4 kde kdevelop3 kdevelop3-data kdevelop3-plugins
[09:54] <intelikey> best ?    best is subjective.   but of course it's bx
[09:54] <watson541> is apt getting retarded on me ?!
[09:54] <intelikey> :)
[09:54] <mutante> the "best irc client" would probably be one you have written yourself, everything else sucks, but some things suck less,like irssi
[09:54] <intelikey> it's always what ever you are using.
[09:54] <dooglus> watson541: you don't need to remove the other version
[09:54] <WarOfAttrition> what makes irssi good?
[09:54] <watson541> ok ill just (try) build the latest source
[09:55] <mutante> WarOfAttrition: the nick autocomplete ;)
[09:55] <mutante> WarOfAttrition: that you can run it on text-console inside "screen" on a remote shell, making bouncers obsolete
[09:55] <s|k>  WarOfAttrition it's also highly configurable
[09:55] <WarOfAttrition> mutante<-- yea looks like this version only gives you one nick in autocomplete, not a run through all of them
[09:55] <intelikey> watson541 dpkg -P the package and install the later verstion
[09:56] <dooglus> watson541: I'm sorry, I meant automake, not autoconf.  get 'automake1.7'
[09:56] <Pimpshizzled> hey folks
[09:56] <watson541> ok
[09:56] <asdx> nice
[09:56] <asdx> i like the new irssi logo http://www.irssi.org/images/irssitop.png
[09:56] <mutante> WarOfAttrition: it can be extended heavily using perl scripts
[09:56] <dooglus> watson541: http://enlightenment.sourceforge.net/Enlightenment/Get_Enlightenment/Build_Notes/ has a list of recommended versions of various packages.  check you've got the versions it lists
[09:57] <s|k> no other irc client even comes close to it
[09:57] <Pimpshizzled> looks like i burned my install cd too quick, i think that may be causing my installation problems
[09:57] <zcat[1] > nope.. epic just gives me a list of the matching names too, doesn't tab through them either
[09:57] <Pimpshizzled> can any of u guys suggest a good speed for this type of thing?
[09:57] <mutante> and no,it doesnt have a GUI, but IRC is text-based anyways
[09:57] <s|k> and I was a long time mirc user, then xchat, then I switched to irssi
[09:57] <dooglus> s|k: my biggest gripe with irssi is lack of documentation
[09:57] <zcat[1] > Pimpshizzled: I do mine at 16x and never have a problem
[09:57] <duckdown> How can I get the VGA font to work in gnome terminal, or how do I select it?  I have installed xfonts-dosemu which installs the appropriate vga.pcf.gz files, but I don't know how to activate or choose them!
[09:57] <dooglus> s|k: it's hard to write scripted extensions for it because the documentation is so crappy
[09:57] <s|k> dooglus: /help command is helpful
[09:57] <Pimpshizzled> mine was set to max =S lol
[09:57] <WarOfAttrition> mirc is still imprinted on me, so I just went with xchat at first, haven't changed since, time to try more I guess
[09:57] <s|k> dooglus: oh, the api I don't know anything about
[09:58] <mutante> s|k: but there are usually helpful #irssi channels
[09:58] <zcat[1] > If you want to be sure, use 8x but almost any drive these days will read a 16x burn..
[09:58] <dooglus> s|k: I was trying to write an on-the-fly spell checked for irssi, but I couldn't work out how to get the contents of the input buffer from a script.
[09:58] <s|k> WarOfAttrition: with irssi you can stay logged on to irc even if you log out of gnome
[09:59] <s|k> WarOfAttrition: and with ssh you can login to your computer from somewhere else
[09:59] <dooglus> s|k: there is a #irssi on freenode, but it's far from helpful.  I've tried asking a few times, but it's either silent or full of smug-yet-unhelpful types
[09:59] <watson541> well i dont know if this is better or not haha, i got the SAME error plus a FEW more this time haha
[09:59] <mutante> dooglus: try the one on Efnet some time
[09:59] <s|k> dooglus: they've been pretty helpful with me in #irssi :/
[09:59] <dlok> Hi, I installed Ubuntu on a Acer Travelmate 4101, and I have no internet access.. there is this same issue in the laptop suport group at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerTravelmate4101WLMI .. is there any fix ??
[09:59] <watson541> aclocal:configure.in:17: warning: macro `AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library
[09:59] <watson541> aclocal:configure.in:18: warning: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[09:59] <watson541> Running autoheader...
[09:59] <watson541> Running autoconf...
[09:59] <watson541> configure.in:17: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_ENABLE_SHARED If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation.
[09:59] <watson541> configure.in:18: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL
[09:59] <watson541> seems like its impossible..grrr
[09:59] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: I use irssi inside a 'screen' session on a server in France.  so even when I switch my ubuntu machine off, I'm still on IRC.
[09:59] <zcat[1] > watson541: pastebin it?
[10:00] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: I can re-attach to the remote 'screen' session from wherever I am.  It's a lot more convenient than xchat.
[10:00] <s|k> I have a box set up just for screen + irssi that I can log into
[10:00] <watson541> zcat[1] : too late now :9
[10:00] <intelikey> it makes me MAD when you are looking an app over and hit it's help button or type /help and it starts opening a web browser and looking for a web site.....  if i wanted to go to a web page i know how. i don't want some stupid app doing it for me.  and if they are not going to supple a doc then don't supply a button/command !
[10:00] <zcat[1] > watson541: well.. for next time anyhow.. ops don't like you pasting in here :)
[10:00] <watson541> zcat[1] : noted...
[10:00] <mutante> WarOfAttrition: and if thats not enough, there is even irssi-proxy which would allow you to temporarily use MIRC at some friends (or internet cafe) windows box to connect INTO your running irssi session with Mirc (or any other client)
[10:00] <Manager> why does it make you mad intelikey, when it means you have access to the most up to date info?
[10:01] <bakert> Hey guys, can I use "paginate" to paginate things that are NOT coming from an ActiveRecord model?
[10:01] <Pimpshizzled> once ive finished ripping this, shall i start from the beginning with my install, or shall i just let it try and install those packages it couldnt load from the last disc?
[10:01] <zcat[1] > Manager: what if you want to look up the help and you're not online?
[10:01] <dooglus> I would rather have the help button take me to a web page than not have a help button at all.
[10:01] <WarOfAttrition> nice, so you can park your nick forever
[10:01] <mutante> indeed
[10:02] <Manager> zcat[1] , most people seem to be online these days if they have a computer and are doing something important
[10:02] <watson541> a help button in LINUX?!
[10:02] <watson541> hrm...
[10:02] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: you can register your nick with nickserv anyway, so that's not a big problem.
[10:02] <watson541> i always like 'man' myself
[10:02] <s|k> WarOfAttrition: if you don't like irssi if you try it, you can install mirc with wine
[10:02] <s|k> it runs fnie
[10:02] <s|k> fine*
[10:02] <dlok> Hi, I installed Ubuntu on a Acer Travelmate 4101, and I have no internet access.. there is this same issue in the laptop suport group at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerTravelmate4101WLMI .. is there any fix ??
[10:02] <intelikey> Manager i thought i just explained that.   and for another thing, i might not even be online at the time....
[10:02] <watson541> s|k: mirc always crashed after a while for me, not to mention it being a TOTAL resource hog
[10:02] <watson541> maybe it was the 'script' i was usuing though
[10:02] <s|k> watson541: well I just installed it, I never actually tried to use it seriously
[10:02] <watson541> seems every time i fired up a DCC it would die
[10:03] <Manager> intelikey do the benefits of having offline access outweigh the benefits of having the most up to date info?
[10:03] <s|k> irssi is irreplacable for me
[10:03] <watson541> i can do more thru irssi than mirc plus its 1337 :)
[10:03] <zcat[1] > dlok: what kind of web access? wifi or rj45?
[10:03] <intelikey> Manager mainly because automatic=/me is perturbed <piriod>
[10:03] <s|k> watson541: I run irssi on a 128 mb slackware machine, that's all it does
[10:03] <watson541> dooglus: maybe i should install a newr aclocal?
[10:03] <WarOfAttrition> I don't like wine, I always have problems with it
[10:03] <zcat[1] > oops.. gotta go pick up family..
[10:04] <dlok> zcat[1]  rj45
[10:04] <s|k> watson541:  I use my ubuntu dapper to connect to it through ssh
[10:04] <s|k> :)
[10:04] <Manager> what does that mean intelikey
[10:04] <Pimpshizzled> tnx for your help today zcat
[10:04] <watson541> yah i need to look into setting up ssh on irssi
[10:04] <dooglus> watson541: which module are you building that gives you the problem?
[10:04] <Pimpshizzled> take care
[10:04] <watson541> i want to setup ssh on my box period..
[10:04] <intelikey> Manager yep.  if the app is a year old i don't want docs talking about thing that the app doesn't have or omiting things it has but have sense been droped.
[10:04] <s|k> watson541: it's pretty easy sudo apt-get install ssh
[10:04] <duckdown> Nobody here uses a VGA font in gnome-terminal? :O
[10:04] <dooglus> watson541: there's not much to it - just install package openssh-server and you're done.
[10:04] <watson541> dooglus: its a few because i tried excluding this certain one from bulding and another one spit out the same error, but its 'evas'
[10:05] <Manager> intelikey i'd like to commission you for a project
[10:05] <watson541> dooglus: heh, that pkg is ironically already on my box, but to set it up....
[10:06] <intelikey> i don't really need anything else to do Manager, hehhe.  but thanks anyway.
[10:06] <Manager> intelikey, do you have any ideas for how i can earn a bit of cash outside of my day job?
[10:06] <dlok> Hi, I installed Ubuntu on a Acer Travelmate 4101, and I have no internet access.. there is this same issue in the laptop suport group at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerTravelmate4101WLMI .. is there any fix ??
[10:07] <chari0t> -suddenly interested in advice-
[10:07] <dooglus> watson541: I'm trying to build it now.
[10:07] <dooglus> watson541: I get an error: "aclocal: configure.in: 17: macro `AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library" :)
[10:07] <watson541> it should fail during make i think
[10:07] <watson541> dooglus: so you think its 'broken' for ubuntu?
[10:07] <intelikey> Manager there is a proven formula for that.  "find a need, and fill it."
[10:08] <dooglus> watson541: I'll look itoit
[10:08] <dooglus> watson541: I'll look into it
[10:08] <watson541> dooglus: i appreciate it although im not sure how much good it will do :)
[10:08] <Manager> intelikey - what kind of needs do you think need filling, and which i might be able to fill?
[10:09] <watson541> im running a bare DR17 now , the one from freedesktop.org but its a few months outdated
[10:09] <watson541> and so much work has been added to CVS since then :(
[10:09] <watson541> got my animated wallpaper going and stuff..its sweeet
[10:10] <dooglus> watson541: I've build e17 from CVS before, but didn't really see what it gave me that other window managers don't.
[10:10] <watson541> dooglus: just eye candy :)
[10:10] <dooglus> I use xfce4 most of the time.  what's special about e17?
[10:10] <intelikey> Manager you know far more about your abelities than i do.  also consider what you can and can't do then just look around at what people are in "need" and/or want of.   it's not hard.  you can do it.
[10:11] <watson541> the latest eye candy is nice way different from e16
[10:11] <Skiddles^> Raah!
[10:11] <watson541> the way the window 'flashes' when you switch to it and junk like that
[10:11] <freakabcd> how do i veiw packages within a certain repository inside synaptic?
[10:11] <PORDO> when i try to log in, it hangs unless i use failsafe.  other users can log in.  what files can i remove if i just want it to work like it does with failsafe?
[10:11] <eduedix> howto fix this : root@ebuntu:/usr/src# module-assistant prepare
[10:11] <watson541> i havent trid xfce ion over 5 years
[10:11] <eduedix>  apt-get  install linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[10:11] <eduedix> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:12] <WarOfAttrition> wow, I just started using linux in january
[10:12] <Skiddles^> I'm having problems starting the X server thing, I think there's something with my config
[10:12] <Skiddles^> http://singaporekid.munki.org/xorg.conf
[10:12] <watson541> eduedix: sounds like you have another 'apt' process open
[10:12] <WarOfAttrition> there's always fluxbox
[10:12] <watson541> ot synapticor wtf ever you use :)
[10:12] <eduedix> watson541, ah ok :P
[10:13] <dooglus> PORDO: get rid of ~/.gnome* I guess.  do "mkdir ~/backup; mv ~/.gnome* ~/backup"
[10:13] <watson541> WarOfAttrition: why? fluxbox have much eye candy?
[10:13] <intelikey> eduedix close synaptic and try again
[10:13] <WarOfAttrition> nah, I was saying about the mention of xfce, if you want tiny, fluxbox is even smaller
[10:13] <watson541> WarOfAttrition: i dont want tiny i want eye ypopping candy :0
[10:14] <intelikey> eduedix also if that is the whole command you posted.... sudo it.
[10:14] <james_> ok i need some real help i follow the wiki for ndiswrapper and i still can not get my wifi card to run
[10:14] <james_> can anyone help me
[10:14] <WarOfAttrition> maybe a 3d desktop?
[10:15] <watson541> WarOfAttrition: sure :)
[10:15] <watson541> maybe i should go check out luminocity
[10:15] <watson541> but i really love e17 its come a LOOONG way
[10:15] <james_> can anyone help me
[10:15] <watson541> check out the sources on freedesktop,org they're buildabe
[10:16] <kevor> When i login with a second login on my computer, i have no theme (icons are ugly, ugly bards, ugly buttons and windnows) how can i fix this?
[10:16] <WarOfAttrition> I suspect that when vista is finally released, or even if linux gets a stable 3d desktop by default, more people will use it about a week then use something flat...
[10:16] <watson541> kevor: you have to set a theme for each user haha
[10:16] <Skiddles^> :/
[10:16] <kevor> watson541: it's the same user, just logged in twice
[10:16] <watson541> kevor: unless you copy over configs from yoiur other user :)
[10:16] <watson541> logged in twice in X?? why??
[10:17] <kevor> watson541: remote login? :)
[10:17] <unix_infidel> does ubuntu ship with skype, or is there a 3rd party repo where i can get it.
[10:17] <james_> ok can anyone please help me =(
[10:17] <watson541> pkevmaybe its a remoe login hing then..to conserve bandwidth
[10:17] <kevor> unix_infidel: skype is not GPL licenced
[10:17] <DBO> james_, just ask =)
[10:17] <james_> i did
[10:17] <james_> i am haveing  a problem with ndiswrapper
[10:17] <james_> i followed the wiki
[10:17] <unix_infidel> kevor: which is why i said is there a 3rd party repo where i can get the binary.
[10:17] <james_> and still nothing
[10:17] <kevor> watson541: it's not, even when i login with xnest locally, it's nasty.
[10:17] <DBO> oh I see now, me no do wifi
[10:17] <PORDO> thanks dooglus
[10:17] <james_> aaaaaaaaahhhhh
[10:17] <james_> thanks dbp
[10:17] <james_> sbo
[10:18] <Pimpshizzled> yaya \m/ ripping finally complete, time to try again!!! w00t ^-^
[10:18] <james_> dbo
[10:18] <kevor> unix_infidel: if i remember correctly, you can get it from their website, let me check it, hold please
[10:18] <Pimpshizzled> toodles
[10:18] <unix_infidel> kevor: nvm.
[10:18] <unix_infidel> i got it.
[10:18] <kevor> unix_infidel: good luck :)
[10:18] <james_> can anyone in here help me with wifi
[10:20] <dooglus> watson541: install 'libtool' - that should solve your problem.
[10:20] <dooglus> !wifi
[10:20] <ubotu> wifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:20] <shiming> irc.freenode.net
[10:21] <james_> ubotu i used it did what it says
[10:21] <ubotu> james_: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:21] <james_> still haveing a problem
[10:22] <james_> ok i have a wiki, that i am going thur 3 times now step by step the driver loads and no errors but i still can not get it to see the card
[10:22] <DBO> james_, ubotu is a robot
[10:22] <james_> ok
[10:22] <james_> thanks for that
[10:22] <YoussefAssad> you mean, ubotu is, like, totally, a robot
[10:23] <DBO> YoussefAssad, yeah, motor oil drinking, children eating robot
[10:23] <DBO> james_, what card exactly?
[10:23] <Bilford_> ubotu test
[10:23] <ubotu> Failed.
[10:23] <YoussefAssad> like, totally, yea :)
[10:23] <Bilford_> lol
[10:23] <james_> network everywhere nwp11b
[10:23] <Bilford_> ubotu what time is it
[10:23] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Bilford_
[10:23] <WarOfAttrition> you should see the bots on yahoo chat, people have long conversations with them
[10:23] <kevor> Why are my theme options not applied when i login twice with the same users. (No icons, no themed buttons/bars)
[10:23] <Bilford_> lol
[10:23] <ompaul> !bot
[10:23] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:24] <WarOfAttrition> then you have bots chatting up other bots
[10:24] <Bilford_> cool
[10:24] <Bilford_> maybe theyre plotting something
[10:24] <WarOfAttrition> yea, maybe for about 5 minutes, then it's lame just like yahoo chat
[10:24] <DBO> skynet talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <Manager> !bot
[10:25] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:26] <Skiddles^> Boo
[10:26] <Manager> !ubotu help
[10:26] <dlok> Hi, I installed Ubuntu on a Acer Travelmate 4101, and I have no internet access.. there is this same issue in the laptop suport group at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerTravelmate4101WLMI .. is there any fix ??
[10:28] <PORDO> doh, i had a .profile line starting esd.
[10:28] <ompaul> !tell dlok about ndiswrapper
[10:28] <kevor> Anyone can help me with my login problem, all my themes with double login look like this : www.kev0r.nl/why.png
[10:28] <ompaul> dlok, that might help, no promises
[10:29] <WarOfAttrition> screwed up apt again, this is mysterious!
[10:29] <WarOfAttrition> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
[10:29] <WarOfAttrition>  field name `lesystem' must be followed by colon
[10:29] <YoussefAssad> dlok: what chipset is it?
[10:29] <eduedix> there is no enemy-territory in ubuntu ?
[10:30] <ompaul> kevor, your pulling stuff via NX that is the far end machine
[10:30] <Bilford_> Im going to try a fresh install of Kubuntu
[10:30] <kevor> ompaul: i know, but even locally with a dual login (same user)_with xnest it gets like this
[10:30] <WarOfAttrition> not apt I meant dpkg, what is wrong with it and how did that happen?
[10:30] <WarOfAttrition> is that normal or did something funny happen?
[10:30] <PORDO> anyone here live in portland?
[10:32] <WarOfAttrition> I have "lesystem ACLs present
[10:32] <WarOfAttrition>  in some operating systems (GNU/Linux included)." at the beginning of /var/lib/dpkg/available and dpkg does not work, what is that about, anyone know?
[10:33] <tomtas> how can i get my soundblaster audigy 4 to work ?
[10:34] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: it looks like that file has been damaged.  It should read "Description: module for manipulating POSIX.1e ACLs pylibacl is a python interface to the libacl library. It allows manipulation of the POSIX.1e-compliant filesystem ACLs present
[10:34] <ompaul> kevor, what every machine your attaching to controls that "background" as for the tgzs on the desktop that account has them there- I am at a loss as to what you are actually expecting
[10:34] <proconsul> wtf is up this this stock ticker applet?
[10:34] <proconsul> is it a toy ?
[10:35] <ompaul> it is for tracking the price of a share
[10:35] <proconsul> *with
[10:35] <kevor> ompaul: it's solved, turns out "gnome-settings-daemon" doesnt run with a dual login
[10:35] <proconsul> ompaul, well i give it a stock symbol and it doesnot do shi&
[10:35] <kevor> run it -> it's good again
[10:36] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: I think "sudo dselect update" should fix it, according to the dpkg man page
[10:36] <PORDO> anyone know of a speakerphone, like the mvox mv100, that works for linux (preferably usb).
[10:37] <golledge> hello, i have just changed my graphics card and my X doesnt work. i have changed the driver from nvidia to vesa that didnt help. is there a setup program i can use to reconfigure X from the command line
[10:37] <ompaul> proconsul, you don't need to hint at bad language, you could just articulate it as - it appears to be faulty, is the market its pointing to open more than 20 minutes most of them have a delay due to some "information restriction"
[10:37] <dooglus> golledge: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:37] <golledge> dooglus thankyou very much
[10:38] <ompaul> proconsul, I just started here and its working away
[10:38] <Pimpshizzled> heeeeey :)
[10:38] <Pimpshizzled> thank u everyone who advised me in setting up ubuntu
[10:38] <Pimpshizzled> =D im now talking to you from it
[10:39] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: you installed it already?  nice work!
[10:40] <Pimpshizzled> pleased as punch ^_^
[10:40] <Pimpshizzled> hooked itself up to the network for me and everything
[10:40] <WarOfAttrition> dooglus<-- thanks for that, that seemed to do it, but it's a mystery how that happened. maybe it was all the hard shutdowns
[10:40] <ubuntu> 7000
[10:40] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: now you just have to get mp3 playback working, video playback working, the flash plugin and java plugin installed, and all that other proprietary/patented stuff that ubuntu aren't allowed to ship
[10:40] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: what filesystem to do you?
[10:40] <dooglus> *do you use*?
[10:40] <Pimpshizzled> gulp
[10:40] <Pimpshizzled> lol
[10:41] <WarOfAttrition> dooglus<-- ext3
[10:41] <Pimpshizzled> i heard that xmml or something like that sets up mp3?
[10:41] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: I've never tried ext3.  I use reiserfs and do a hard shutdown every time I try to shutdown
[10:41] <ompaul> Pimpshizzled, na
[10:41] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: I don't think it's ever damaged any files, but I can't be sure
[10:41] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: check out the link that ubotu is about to tell you:
[10:41] <dooglus> !restrictedformats
[10:41] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:41] <WarOfAttrition> well... I've tried some really funky stuff on this OS
[10:42] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: I meant to address you there.
[10:42] <WarOfAttrition> in fact I'm surprised it's still going
[10:42] <dlok> how can I update from Breezy to Flight 7 without a internet conection???
[10:44] <Pimpshizzled> dooglus
[10:44] <Pimpshizzled> err, should i use easy ubuntu
[10:44] <Pimpshizzled> apparently that sets all the little things like that for me?
[10:46] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: I've never tried it, but whenever anyone mentions it here about 5 people say "no, don't do it, it's bad, man!"
[10:46] <dooglus> !easyubunut
[10:46] <ubotu> dooglus: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:46] <d> Whats some desktops/wm's i wouldnt know about?
[10:46] <dooglus> !easyubuntu
[10:46] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[10:46] <WarOfAttrition> dooglus<--  the link about restricted formats, are you saying that those things may mess things up?
[10:46] <dooglus> WarOfAttrition: no, I was trying to talk to Pimpshizzled and got his name badly wrong, sorry.
[10:47] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: actually, I was thinking of automatix - that's the one people say not to use.  I don't know about easyubuntu
[10:47] <d> !ubuntu enterprise edition
[10:47] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, d
[10:47] <dooglus> d: ratpoison?
[10:47] <Pimpshizzled> ok
[10:47] <Pimpshizzled> ill try easyubuntu
[10:47] <WarOfAttrition> well I guess it will remain a mystery then, at least I know how to fix it if it repeats
[10:47] <Pimpshizzled> i guess someone has to
[10:47] <d> il ahve a look
[10:48] <d> dooglus
[10:48] <selinium> Pimpshizzled: just follow the wiki sent by ubotu. It isn't difficult, and you will learn a little more on how Ubuntu works :)
[10:48] <dooglus> d: it's like 'screen' only for X apps.
[10:48] <dooglus> d: it's a keyboard-operated window manager - it kills the need for the mouse, hence 'rat poison'
[10:48] <dooglus> d: check out http://xwinman.org/ for a big list of window managers
[10:49] <Pimpshizzled> Selinium: ill have a look at the wiki then, brb
[10:49] <Lemino> i shall install an additional harddrive under ubuntu. how do I do it? can i just plug it in while the computer is running and expect ubunut to take care of the rest or will I have to reboot?
[10:49] <d> sweet thanks dooglus
[10:50] <Bader> hi
[10:50] <d> i know this good site:P
[10:50] <Bader> I got the following error with Xorg: could not open default cursor font `cursor` (Dapper)
[10:50] <WarOfAttrition> whoa, dont plug in hard drives when the PC is on
[10:50] <dooglus> d: the 'others' link there has a big list of window managers I hadn't heard of before
[10:51] <Lemino> WarOfAttrition: ok, thats a good thing to know then ... ;)
[10:51] <d> metisse is good if it was easily skinnable
[10:52] <overrider> which runlevel is to start the system without gui / gdm login?
[10:52] <WarOfAttrition> shutdown, unplug the power, then install it as a slave
[10:53] <Lemino> WarOfAttrition: but when I restart with the drive plugged in, will the computer imediately recongize the disk?
[10:53] <dooglus> overrider: there isn't one by default.
[10:54] <dooglus> overrider: you can use update-rc.d to remove gdm from runlevel 2 if you like - then runlevel 2 is without gdm and runlevel 3 is with it
[10:54] <rem__> over -> 3
[10:54] <dooglus> rem__: is that right?
[10:54] <overrider> dooglus, oh ok thanks
[10:55] <rem__> hmm i thought it was 5 with it and 3 without... i might be wrong lemme check ..
[10:55] <WarOfAttrition> Lemino<-- install it first, then check which device name it has, then you may have to mount it automatically in fstab
[10:56] <dooglus> overrider: what do you see if you run "echo /etc/rc?.d/*gdm" ?
[10:58] <overrider> they all seems to have it except 0 and 6
[10:58] <overrider> and 1
[10:59] <Pimpshizzled> sweet jeebus!
[10:59] <Pimpshizzled> lol, ubuntu downloads faster than windows
[10:59] <WarOfAttrition> maybe you had worms downloading in the background in win
[11:00] <zcat[1] > or updates
[11:01] <Pimpshizzled> lol, this is looking difficult, but im pretty impressed so far
[11:01] <Pimpshizzled> just need to mess with this synaptic package manager
[11:01] <animato> hello, i'm trying to run quod libet and i'm getting this error " import pygst
[11:02] <animato> ImportError: No module named pygst
[11:02] <animato> ". what am i missing?
[11:02] <watson541> IBSTALL PYGST LOL
[11:02] <rem__> clear
[11:02] <animato> pygst?
[11:02] <animato> there's nothing like that in synaptic
[11:02] <watson541> not everything is IN synaptic :)
[11:03] <watson541> google it
[11:03] <animato> oh ok
[11:03] <beeman> hello guys
[11:03] <animato> i was think maybe it has a different title
[11:03] <animato> thanx
[11:03] <beeman> i just installed my first linux ;)
[11:03] <beeman> ubuntu - that is
[11:03] <beeman> and I have a problem aleready
[11:03] <watson541> beeman: well thats 1/100th of the battle :)
[11:04] <beeman> how to update firefox?
[11:04] <watson541> now you justr have to learn to use it :)
[11:04] <beeman> i downloaded  firefox.tar.gz and unpacked it eith tar -xvzf firefoxbalahbla
[11:04] <WarOfAttrition> trying irssi, not fancying it so far
[11:04] <zcat[1] > beeman: click the little update window if/when it pops up, and it will take care of everything that needs updating for you..
[11:05] <beeman> zcat i did it!
[11:05] <watson541> WarOfAttrition: usually old school irc-ers love irssi..remmeber gay mirc has not always been there since IRC has existed :)
[11:05] <zcat[1] > you do not _need_ firefox 1.5 ..
[11:05] <beeman> heh and it updated firefox from 1.0.7 to 1.0.8
[11:05] <beeman> :(
[11:05] <zcat[1] > !ff1.5
[11:05] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:05] <zcat[1] > ok.. that might help
[11:05] <WarOfAttrition> watson541: when I first used irc, mirc was already legendary...
[11:05] <beeman> oh ubotu thanks
[11:06] <overrider>  are there any differences between runlevel 2 and 3?
[11:06] <watson541> WarOfAttrition: when i first IRC'ed it was thru ircII and BitchX :)
[11:06] <watson541> over 10 yrs ago
[11:06] <zcat[1] > overrider: they have different numbers?
[11:06] <watson541> and we wopuld join #mirc on efnet and flame the shit out of them
[11:06] <dooglus> I'm running an alpha of firefox 2.0 at the moment.  it seems to work pretty well
[11:06] <overrider> yes
[11:06] <zcat[1] > overrider: afaik they're identical until you start changing them
[11:06] <WarOfAttrition> watson541: lucky you, I wasn't even on the internet back then
[11:07] <overrider> i wish to remove the gdm of runlevel 2 but i cant yet operate rc-update.d
[11:07] <dooglus> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/bonecho/alpha2/linux-i686/en-US/bonecho-alpha2.tar.gz
[11:07] <watson541> WarOfAttrition: u udaled up to .edu shell accounts and irc'ed thru bbs's :)
[11:07] <watson541> I*
[11:07] <WarOfAttrition> watson541: sounds like fun
[11:07] <zcat[1] > watson541: mars ?
[11:08] <WarOfAttrition> but me, I guess I'm just imprinted on the gui forever, I'm "special" and like to look at shiny buttons and colors
[11:08] <beeman> lol
[11:08] <beeman>  sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[11:08] <watson541> nah i used a worldgroup bbs, and a unix shell account..i had to learn the hardcore way :)
[11:08] <dooglus> overrider: I'm not sure about update-rc.d myself, either.  you can remove it manually, like this:   "sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm /etc/rc2.d/K01gdm"
[11:08] <beeman> this command doesnt work for me
[11:08] <beeman> the first oine i shall use
[11:08] <beeman> :(
[11:08] <beeman> apt : command not found
[11:08] <watson541> worldgroup is still around too :)
[11:08] <beeman> is apt like red hat yum?
[11:09] <DBO> yes
[11:09] <dooglus> watson541: did you see my message about getting e17 to build?
[11:09] <beeman> DBO how to install it?
[11:09] <watson541> beeman: no..yum is like apt :)
[11:09] <beeman> is it possible not to have it?
[11:09] <beeman> lol watso, ok ;)
[11:09] <DBO> beeman, "sudo apt-get install <package>"
[11:09] <overrider> dooglus, oh ok, so k means like disabled.
[11:09] <watson541> dooglus: no i didnt i was afk making my lunch, getting ready to head to work in about 15 minutes :)
[11:09] <beeman>  sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[11:10] <beeman> this doesnt work
[11:10] <beeman> ah shit ill stop flooding and get to some more reading :P
[11:10] <DBO> beeman, thats because thats not a package
[11:10] <dooglus> watson541: install 'libtool' - that fixed it for me
[11:10] <WarOfAttrition> it's actually hard for me to read monospaced chat
[11:11] <watson541> dooglus: aww..i already had libtool :(
[11:11] <dooglus> overrider: yes, 'k' as in 'kill' and 's' as in 'start'
[11:11] <beeman> im just following those instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:11] <dooglus> watson541: really?  that fixed it for me
[11:11] <watson541> dooglus: did you get it through apt or sompile a latest version?
[11:11] <watson541> compile* even
[11:11] <dooglus> watson541: apt
[11:12] <watson541> grr.i will remove it and re-install although i doubt it will help :(
[11:12] <dooglus> watson541: run "sudo update-alternatives --config automake" and make sure you select the 1.7 version
[11:13] <DBO> beeman, thats really odd, apt-cache search libstdc++ turns up a result for libstdc++5, but if I add the 5 to the search, it no work...
[11:13] <Pimpshizzled> dooglus: i opened up all my package manager so i can dig into the stuff they dont want unbuntu to have, and i found 'MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player'
[11:13] <Pimpshizzled> is that what i need? ^
[11:13] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: that sounds about right.  it's a long time since I installed all that stuff though.  isn't the restrictedformats page telling you what you need to do?
[11:14] <Pimpshizzled> yup
[11:14] <beeman> damn
[11:14] <Pimpshizzled> im following that, but im worried i can make mistakes i cant sort out
[11:14] <watson541> ook i have automake 1.9.6 installed but ill try your version :)
[11:14] <DBO> beeman, please dont swear here, there are children =)
[11:15] <dooglus> watson541: I used 1.7.  I don't know whether newer versions work or not, just that 1.7 worked for me
[11:15] <Pimpshizzled> hmmm
[11:15] <Pimpshizzled> now i need to download a mp3
[11:15] <Pimpshizzled> what proggies are good for that?
[11:15] <Pimpshizzled> anyone?
[11:15] <Pimpshizzled> :P
[11:15] <beeman> loL! there is suppose to be no space between apt and -get
[11:15] <beeman> i used a space
[11:15] <beeman> DBO: problem solved
[11:15] <DBO> beeman, ah, yes...
[11:15] <beeman> thanks for patience :P
[11:15] <Bader> Pimpshizzled: what is a proggie ?
[11:15] <beeman> small program?
[11:16] <Bader> Pimpshizzled: wget is good for downloading
[11:17] <Pimpshizzled> Bader: ill just get some crap off myspace to test it
[11:17] <watson541> dooglus: awww feck man, i installed automake 1.7.1 same error..im about to give up on it :(
[11:18] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: download http://www.youknowsit.co.uk/lowtech/mp3/delivery_driver.mp3 to test it
[11:18] <dooglus> watson541: I'm using dapper.  I don't know if that makes much difference.  did you check the list of dependencies on the e17 page?
[11:19] <dooglus> watson541: make sure you have GNU m4 1.4, autoconf 2.54, automake 1.7, libtool 1.4.3, and gettext 0.11.5
[11:19] <Pimpshizzled> lol
[11:19] <spikeb> heh e17 is not worth the build pain
[11:19] <Pimpshizzled> wtf is this?
[11:20] <PORDO> rhythmbox won't play mp3 now. :(
[11:20] <buffalo> 
[11:20] <buffalo> 
[11:21] <watson541> spikeb: thats a matter of opinion, and it sounds like yours is coming from someone who has never used e17 :)
[11:21] <spikeb> watson541: yes i have
[11:22] <watson541> well it changes daily and its the best eye candy out there today and it surpasses Mac's OSX inmo
[11:22] <spikeb> yes, it's very pretty.
[11:22] <spikeb> but it's not very usable yet
[11:22] <watson541> spikeb: i dunno i been running it for about 3 days straight now and it hasnt crashed yet :)
[11:23] <WarOfAttrition> push it to the limit
[11:23] <bilford> just did a fresh install of Kubuntu
[11:23] <watson541> dooglus: looks like i jjust need to update from breezy to dapper, think i could apt-get distro upgrade to dapper?
[11:23] <spikeb> at least it builds - it's not _quite_ the duke nukem forever of window managers
[11:24] <WarOfAttrition> hmm, that's a good name for a window manager
[11:24] <watson541> spikeb: keep in mind its a work in progress and judging by the progress , given a year it will be the best
[11:24] <watson541> sure as hell tops 'vista'
[11:24] <spikeb> watson541: i know it's a work in progress - has been for a very long time
[11:24] <WarOfAttrition> won't bloatsta have a 3d desktop or somethang
[11:25] <watson541> WarOfAttrition: i for one will never find out :)
[11:25] <watson541> no desire to
[11:25] <zcat[1] > WarOfAttrition: For 99% of the population (OEM users) NO.
[11:25] <watson541> spikeb: "rome wasnt built in a day"
[11:25] <WarOfAttrition> zcat[1] <-- what do you mean?
[11:25] <spikeb> i liked it better when it wsa called longhorn, and i could call it nohorn
[11:25] <watson541> hell microsoft has been building windows for almost 20 yrs now sooo
[11:25] <spikeb> or missinghorn
[11:25] <spikeb> delayedhorn
[11:25] <spikeb> heh
[11:26] <zcat[1] > The OEM version of vista won't include the 3d desktop, advanced search, ability to run more than three programs at a time..
[11:26] <bilford> Why have you always used Linux
[11:26] <Pimpshizzled> woohoo ^_^ got mp3 working on xmms
[11:26] <WarOfAttrition> zcat[1] <--  ah, n/m I see what you mean now, I had forgotten about that deal with the million versions they will release
[11:27] <dooglus> watson541: the trick is to "sudo update-manager -d" - that will give you the option to update to dapper.
[11:27] <WarOfAttrition> vista home, vista enterprise, vista pantry, vista toaster, vista for pets, etc
[11:27] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: did it play OK?
[11:27] <Pimpshizzled> dooglus: it did ty =)
[11:28] <spikeb> vista media center xbox 360 upgrade wireless edition
[11:28] <spikeb> heh
[11:28] <watson541> i dont have update-manage heh
[11:28] <WarOfAttrition> try beep media player, it's better than xmms
[11:28] <josemaria> hola
[11:28] <spikeb> barf
[11:28] <watson541> getting it though
[11:28] <dooglus> watson541: you missed the 'r' off the end?
[11:28] <Pimpshizzled> beep?
[11:28] <Pimpshizzled> can i find that on synaptic?
[11:28] <josemaria> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:28] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: "sudo apt-get install beep-media-player"
[11:28] <WarOfAttrition> (bmp)
[11:29] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: or you can search in synaptic, either way
[11:29] <WarOfAttrition> n/m, it's what he said
[11:29] <WarOfAttrition> btw, beep can use winamp classic skins
[11:30] <RedEyess> Hi
[11:30] <watson541> sweet..'could not calculate upgrade' hahah
[11:30] <jerware> fellaz
[11:30] <Pimpshizzled> dooglus: is all the programs in synaptic up to date?
[11:30] <MrFaber> hi all
[11:30] <MrFaber> I have problems with the blkid dev library in Dapper. I can't compile util-linux because it didn't find the lib while it is installed. What could be the problem?
[11:30] <RedEyess> Anyone here using AMD64 ubuntu, and if so, does it have as many packages as 32 bit ubuntu?
[11:31] <jerware> i have a problem with my wireless connection booting me, at random intervals.
[11:31] <jaaroo> hello there. My disk is dying due to it's age and my /usr/lib was hit by that corruption. fsck repaired the problem and "wiped out" invalid entries...
[11:31] <jaaroo> I'd like to know if there is some tool that could check all installed packages for integrity?
[11:31] <watson541> ok i have to install 'ubuntu-desktop' first
[11:31] <RedEyess> what happened watston?
[11:31] <RedEyess> watson
[11:32] <dooglus> watson541: it's a good idea to have ubuntu-desktop installed when upgrading, yes
[11:32] <jaaroo> I mean - check if packages do have all their files and report them if not?
[11:32] <spikeb> what, it was too stupid to figure out how to upgrade without ubuntu-desktop?
[11:32] <WarOfAttrition> ok, have to cool off, everyone have a nice day
[11:32] <overrider> what is similar to /etc/ttys in freebsd in ubuntu? i mean, in ubuntu i cant find it
[11:32] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: all the programs in synaptic were up-to-date when that version of ubuntu was released, meaning they're out of date now.
[11:32] <RedEyess> can't you just configure your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:32] <RedEyess> to upgrade?
[11:32] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: for instance, breezy still has firefox 1.0.2 or something in synaptic, and always will.
[11:33] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: dapper will have firefox 1.5.0.something
[11:33] <bilford> Does Konversation have a way of downloading a list of servers
[11:33] <Pimpshizzled> dooglus: ahhh right, now how easy it to update into the next versions of ubuntu?
[11:33] <dooglus> RedEyess: "update-manager -d" will update your sources.list file for you
[11:33] <RedEyess> right
[11:33] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: it's just a case of running "sudo update-manager -d" apparently.
[11:33] <Pimpshizzled> \m/
[11:34] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: (assuming you're on breezy already - hoary didn't have that feature)
[11:34] <Pimpshizzled> yea, im on breezy
[11:34] <zaydana> anybody know of a php5-mysqli .deb for ubuntu?
[11:34] <Pimpshizzled> :)
[11:34] <Pimpshizzled> and i likes it a lot =D might be getting rid of windows at this rate
[11:34] <RedEyess> sometimes you must install it from scratch
[11:34] <RedEyess> not a .deb file
[11:34] <dooglus> !info php5-mysql
[11:34] <ubotu> php5-mysql: (MySQL module for php5), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 100 kB
[11:35] <spikeb> grr
[11:35] <spikeb> ah well, time for bed
[11:35] <dooglus> zaydana: is that what you mean?  or did you mean 'mysqli'?
[11:37] <beeman> ah all worked so fine
[11:37] <graveson> is it normal for PGP errors with sudo apt-get update
[11:38] <zaydana> dooglus: i meant mysqli
[11:38] <beeman> one more thing
[11:38] <Pimpshizzled> hey folks, now im in ubuntu, does that mean i cannot access the files on a partition on a seperate hard-drive (ie, the one with windows on it)
[11:38] <graveson> i have the normal universe and multiverse in my sources file nothing additional
[11:38] <beeman> my soundcard doesnt work
[11:38] <watson541> dooglus: right on bro, the upgrade is going and i have to go to work :) thanks and hope to see you soon....
[11:38] <beeman> Pimp go read forum FAQs
[11:38] <PORDO> rhythmbox is failing to play mp3 :(
[11:38] <beeman> its all there
[11:38] <Pimpshizzled> kk
[11:38] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: no, you can access your windows partition.  if it's NTFS (which it probably is) then you won't be able to write to it, but you can read from it once it's mounted.  see:
[11:39] <beeman> communicating with ntfs partitions etc
[11:39] <dooglus> !ntfs
[11:39] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:39] <zaydana> dooglus: mysql doesn't have API-based support for mysql prepared queries... so mysqli would be better
[11:39] <dooglus> watson541: i hope it works for you!
[11:39] <Pimpshizzled> ty dooglus
[11:41] <visik7> anyone know if there is a place where I can put debs build for breezy ?
[11:41] <beeman> gusy what can I do to fix my soundcard? it doesnt work and all communicates say thet it is configured properly
[11:41] <beeman> :(
[11:42] <high-freq> would it be safe to enable the community maintained (universe) and non-free (multiverse)  repositories?
[11:42] <Pimpshizzled> dooglus: woohooo!!!! this is all too ace +D cheers dude
[11:43] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: you're welcome
[11:43] <high-freq> anyone?
[11:43] <dooglus> visik7: what do you mean?  like a website?  or what?
[11:44] <zax1> good morning
[11:44] <visik7> yes I've some debs usefeull for somebody compiled for breezy but I don't have a website with bandwidth
[11:44] <ompaul> high-freq, it is usual to do so, multiverse people either take or leave depending on the cycle of the moon and their attitude to Free as in Freedom Software
[11:44] <zax1> does any one speak spanish ? i have an error message in spanish i need to translate ?
[11:44] <visik7> zax1:
[11:44] <visik7> !es
[11:44] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:44] <high-freq> aah ok
[11:44] <high-freq> i'll enable them then ;0
[11:45] <dooglus> visik7: you can get a free one at http://fsphost.com/ if you like.
[11:45] <zax1> thank u
[11:47] <dooglus> visik7: or if you like you can email them to me and I'll upload them to my fsphost site and tell you the URL
[11:47] <bilford> hm
[11:47] <bilford> Konversation is nice
[11:49] <octan> why dont i have /etc/ld.so.conf ??
[11:49] <octan> only /etc/ld.so.cache and /etc/ld.so.hwcapppkgs
[11:50] <NET||abuse> hmm, how well will the upgrade from breezy to dapper go on release?
[11:50] <NET||abuse> do we expect very few bugs, resonably stable?
[11:50] <ompaul> NET||abuse, we expect it to be good
[11:51] <void^> octan: man ldconfig
[11:51] <NET||abuse> i'm thinking of setting up a box to start running my own little snmp network monitor setup, but after i get the basic graphing done, i need to register events in a database, but the db i have to use is mysql5... nd breezy having no libmysqlclient15 available through deb is a kick in the sack
[11:52] <NET||abuse> but if i can get the initial setup and graphing running on breezy and do a worry free upgrade to dapper,,, then it'd take some of the bite out of the whole situation
[11:52] <bobslaede> why does usbmount want to execute udev_volume_id, and why doesnt that exist?
[11:53] <NET||abuse> hmm, mustn't have the needed utils package
[11:53] <octan> man ldconfig? that didnt answer my Q void^ . why is ther no such file in dapper
[11:53] <JohnnoD> hey guys, i want to get an ubuntu coffee mug for a friend at school, and im in australia and cant pay with a credit card, what can i do ?
[11:53] <ompaul> !ldconfig dapper
[11:53] <ubotu> ompaul: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:54] <ompaul> !ldconfig
[11:54] <ubotu> ompaul: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:54] <NET||abuse> JohnnoD, setup a single payment cc number
[11:55] <JohnnoD> i dont understand..
[11:55] <bobslaede> wow, i dont have usbmount on my workstation, but what do i use to mount my usbdrives then? the gnome thing?
[11:55] <void^> octan: perhaps you have a different manpage. "shared libraries found in the  directories  specified  on  the  command  line,  in  the  file /etc/ld.so.conf, and in the trusted directories (/usr/lib and /lib)."
[11:55] <NET||abuse> it's like a credit card coupon, you put a certain amount of money into it, the bank gives you a temporary cc number, and you can spend that online
[11:55] <soonindallas> hello.  I am looking for a tutorial on how to apply a patch to a package source.  astonishingly there is little info about this in the wiki. can anyone refer me to a howto ?
[11:55] <NET||abuse> so you don't need an actual visa/mastercard whatever
[11:55] <JohnnoD> oh ok cool
[11:55] <njan> NET||abuse, why would you want to setup a server which is supposed to be stable with a version you're not sure about based on the possibility of a worry-free upgrade?
[11:55] <void^> octan: in other words, you need it only if you have libraries in other places than /lib and /usr/lib
[11:55] <NET||abuse> JohnnoD, talk to your bank about it.
[11:55] <JohnnoD> i was dissapointed when it didn't list paypal :(
[11:55] <octan> void^ and i do,, cos i got some libs in /usr/local/lib
[11:56] <octan> for mythtv
[11:56] <void^> octan: so put it in ld.so.conf and run ldconfig
[11:56] <aLeSD> hi all
[11:56] <aLeSD> how to reconfigure my sound board ?
[11:56] <NET||abuse> njan, well it's more to just get the second part up and running asap.. if the service has interuptions due to problems after the initial upgrade, and not during.. then i have deniability :)
[11:57] <eirena> \j comagena
[11:57] <crazy_penguin> hi all
[11:57] <NET||abuse> njan, it's a numbers game with the guys in here.. if it's the os's fault, then that's ok, fix it and move on.. if it goes into upgrade and never gets working at all again... well then i'm in trouble cause i'm the one doing the upgrade
[11:57] <crazy_penguin> hey guys for what are this restricted drivers for?
[11:57] <NET||abuse> njan, and i have to use libmysqlclient15..
[11:57] <njan> NET||abuse, why don't you wait for a month until dapper comes out and set it up cleanly on that?
[11:58] <njan> NET||abuse, dapper has 5 years of support as a server platform, by the time you get around to upgrading it'll be due for replacement.
[11:58] <NET||abuse> njan, can't, just happens the deadline for this fits in for one week after dapers new release
[11:58] <ompaul> octan, I have it installed on my dapper box ... /sbin/ldconfig
[11:58] <aLeSD> someone could me suggest a good program to record fot the mic in ?
[11:58] <njan> NET||abuse, break the deadline or setup straight after dapper is released. I'd go for the former.
[11:59] <njan> NET||abuse, you're better off doing the job properly in the first place
[11:59] <bobslaede> what does /sbin/udev_volume_id do? and why is usbmount looking for it, when i dont got it
[11:59] <njan> You'll probably get away with setting up on a fresh dapper system after release, but I'd avoid it if possible in case there are teething problems.
[11:59] <NET||abuse> ah it's just a question of time, we have to show something working by end of tomorrow, then come to it later and get the database end working... and inbetween we have too much to do already
[11:59] <phanter> hello there
[12:00] <njan> NET||abuse, you can't really show anything working if the database end doesn't work.
[12:00] <phanter> I use a smb server to connect to. Now i deleted something from there, but the content is not in my trashbin. Can i get the info back (i do have a root account on the server)
[12:00] <NET||abuse> njan, we need to be able to walk away from this with proceedures left behind to maintain it(sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; //that kinda lark)
[12:00] <NET||abuse> and not have to go back to it again
[12:00] <njan> NET||abuse, you just can't do that.
[12:01] <njan> NET||abuse, no system requires that little maintenance.
[12:01] <NET||abuse> njan, obviously i'm understating the proceedures for maintenance, the initial graphing won't be databased, they have another method for that,, it's all been planned by someone else.. i just trying to get it done
[12:02] <njan> NET||abuse, if you need something to show by tomorrow and you need to run this on dapper but have a deadline a week after the dapper release, it hasn't been planned properly.
[12:02] <njan> that or the plan hasn't been followed. In either case, you need to rethink how you're approaching it.
[12:02] <Fresh> Is there a good p2p program for RedHat?
[12:02] <NET||abuse> njan, your telling me :)
[12:03] <bobslaede> Fresh: #redhat or something ;)
[12:03] <elijah> hi all..im new here:)
[12:03] <ompaul> waky|off, any chance you could use >>/away Reason<< then your not telling 650+ in a channel if someone messages you /uses your nick its easy for them to figure out your not there :)
[12:03] <PORDO> holy crap..hibernating works in dapper.
[12:03] <elijah> can anyone tell me.....will fspot photo manager be included in dapper install cd?
[12:03] <NET||abuse> PORDO, yep, it's nice
[12:04] <PORDO> sick.
[12:04] <PORDO> now they need to clean up the xp-style login behavior.
[12:04] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[12:04] <PORDO> when i go to screensaver, that should pop back up to the login screen.
[12:05] <PORDO> if i login, and i'm already logged in, i shoudl be able to make it take away that option to log in anyway, or return to previous login.  it should just return to previous login.
[12:05] <PORDO> i mean, that should at least be optional.
[12:05] <sensory> hey can someone please help me with a syntax to compile uncompress and comile a .tar.gz
[12:05] <PORDO> and then when i do return to my previous login, i shouldn't be presented with a screensaver asking for my password again.  arghh
[12:06] <PORDO> sensory i don't remember off hand, but it's seriously pretty simple.  google for some examples.
[12:06] <sensory> pordo i have and i am returned with errors.
[12:07] <ompaul> sensory, just as a matter of interest have you checked that the program does not already come packaged for Ubuntu?
[12:07] <sensory> if u allow me to paste my return (no it comes in an .rpm
[12:07] <PORDO> sensory you might try a gui app.
[12:07] <PORDO> you don't have to use the command line if you aren't having success with it.
[12:07] <sensory> im trying to install VMware packages.
[12:08] <ompaul> sensory, so use paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pastes and I think the bot knows something of vmware
[12:08] <ompaul> !vmware
[12:08] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[12:08] <ompaul> hmm it seems it does not
[12:09] <ompaul> sensory,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[12:09] <PORDO> my computer fan slows down, and the computer makes CRAZY weird whining noises when i test this one screen saver
[12:09] <PORDO> Colorfire.  It's like a sad moaning sound.
[12:10] <PORDO> bizarre.
[12:11] <JohnnoD> NET||abuse, do banks usually charge for those cc things ?
[12:11] <njan> NET||abuse, I know it sounds obvious, but I've worked on lots of projects like that one and you don't do anyone any favours by just doing a shit job.
[12:11] <NET||abuse> oh well, i think there's a small comission, depnds though
[12:12] <aLeSD> hi My soundboard works but seems that Mic in doesn't. Could someone help me ?
[12:12] <NET||abuse> aLeSD, you update to latest alsa?
[12:13] <bobslaede>  usbmount[21382] : /dev/sda1 does not contain a filesystem or disklabel
[12:13] <bobslaede> thats BS
[12:13] <bobslaede> whys does it say that?!
[12:13] <aLeSD> don't know ... I use breezy with a soundblaster live
[12:13] <aLeSD> maybe is only a confiuration problem
[12:13] <NET||abuse> aLeSD, ok, and in volume control is there a mic channel
[12:13] <aLeSD> because output works good
[12:14] <NET||abuse> try alsa-mixer
[12:15] <NET||abuse> aLeSD, are you trying to just put the mic straight through to the speakers. or are you trying to sample in with the mic? or what exactly?
[12:16] <aLeSD> NET||abuse: I'm tring to use it with ekiga
[12:16] <aLeSD> I noticed that with skype it works ... OSS ... but with ekiga ALSA it doesn't
[12:17] <bobslaede> anybody down with usbmount stuff?
[12:18] <NET||abuse> hmm, just try messin with the input devices and things, if it works with skype then it's all to do with the configuration of the software.. there's no driver issues i'd imagine.
[12:19] <aLeSD> is there a configuration tools for alsa ?
[12:20] <aLeSD> something like apt-get -configure ...
[12:20] <RandolphCarter> hmm, so hitting cancel during debconf hangs aptitude..
[12:21] <siccness> Not entirely based on Ubuntu, but does anyone know if MS word opens .odt files?
[12:21] <siccness> (open office docs)
[12:22] <Samuli^> sensory, normal compiling goes like ./configure && make && sudo make install
[12:22] <EDIJUS> can anyone show me screenshot of Ubuntu Screenshoter?
[12:22] <Ng> siccness: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_applications_supporting_OpenDocument#Third_party_support:_Three_OpenOpenOffice_plug-ins_for_Microsoft_Office
[12:23] <Samuli^> you need the build-essential package.
[12:23] <siccness> Thanks, Ng.
[12:23] <siccness> :)
[12:23] <RandolphCarter> ./configure --prefix=/usr/local, unless you want to risk annoying aptitude
[12:23] <Samuli^> or that's the very least you need.
[12:23] <metatag> hello all .. i have a problem.. i am trying to share a folder from ubuntu to a windows machine using shared folders in System > Shared Folders .. its set up ok but when I try to access the folder from the windows machine it would not allow me.. there is a lack of permissions problem
[12:23] <EDIJUS>  can anyone show me screenshot of Ubuntu Screenshoter?
[12:24] <metatag> hello all .. i have a problem.. i am trying to share a folder from ubuntu to a windows machine using shared folders in System / Shared Folders .. its set up ok but when I try to access the folder from the windows machine it would not allow me.. there is a lack of permissions problem
[12:25] <PwcrLinux> Hello
[12:26] <EDIJUS> can anyone show me screenshot of Ubuntu Screenshoter?
[12:26] <Ng> EDIJUS: if you're running it, just press the Print Screen button on your keyboard
[12:27] <EDIJUS> i am on XP
[12:27] <EDIJUS> i want make the same screenshoter on xp
[12:28] <Ng> EDIJUS: ok, then http://www.pointlessrubbish.net/screenie.jpg
[12:28] <EDIJUS> Ng, thanks :D
[12:28] <metatag> EDIJUS, on windows normally u press Print Screen on your keyboard to copy the screen on keyboard
[12:29] <metatag> * i mean clipboard
[12:29] <EDIJUS> metatag, i want make app what makes screenshot and save it to desktop :P
[12:30] <tony007> can i access data from .rar files in linux
[12:30] <sensory> i am still unable to uncompress this file, if someone could please guide me,  below is a short line print..
[12:30] <sensory> @ubuntu:~/tools$ tar xvzf VMwareTools-5.5.1-1-19175.tar.gz
[12:30] <sensory> tar: VmwareTools-5.5.1-1-19175.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[12:30] <sensory> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:30] <sensory> tar: Child returned status 2
[12:30] <sensory> tar: Error exiting delayed from previous errors
[12:33] <Ng> tony007: enable the universe and multiverse repositories and there are various rar tools (rar, unrar-nonfree, etc)
[12:34] <hastesaver> How do I run Windows under VMWare Server? (I know there's KQEmu, but I'd like to try VMWare if possible...)
[12:34] <Ng> sensory: are you sure that archive is in that directory?
[12:34] <Ng> sensory: also, please don't paste errors in here, use a pastebin :)
[12:35] <Ng> hastesaver: consult vmware's install docs, then install windows inside it. that's kinda outside the scope of this channel really
[12:35] <C|int> back, hi all
[12:35] <C|int> hey all, I tested gentoo, and SUSE 10.1, just to see if any better than ubuntu, and my results:
[12:35] <C|int> wasn't better than my ubuntu experience :- )
[12:35] <FariSS> hi
[12:35] <FariSS> anyone could help me
[12:35] <Ng> FariSS: ask your question, if someone can help, they will :)
[12:36] <C|int> SUSE 10.1 was slower than chit, and I have a fast system, and I'm debian based, so, :)
[12:36] <FariSS> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:36] <sensory> yes, the file is in a hard drive directory, its also got a little padlock icon on top of it (sorry whats a paste bin?)
[12:36] <C|int> hi ng
[12:36] <FariSS> why i get this error
[12:36] <hastesaver> Ng, I understand that, I wanted to know if someone has a link to the docs, actually. (or something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo )
[12:36] <FariSS> :s
[12:36] <Ng> !tell sensory about pastebin
[12:36] <C|int> hi Ng
[12:36] <Ng> sensory: is it in that exact directory? does it show up if you run "ls"?
[12:36] <mibuk> does anybody know when vim 7.0 will come out as an ubuntu package for dapper?
[12:37] <FariSS> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:37] <House_MD> mibuk: the vim package maintainer
[12:37] <FariSS> :s:s:s:s
[12:37] <Ng> FariSS: it doesn't look like that source exists. third party sources are generally not worth bothering with imo
[12:37] <FariSS> some1 help me please
[12:37] <Ng> mibuk: it won't
[12:37] <Ng> mibuk: ubuntu doesn't add new software to already released versions, just security/bug upgrades
[12:37] <FariSS> NG i followed steps was in ubuntu guide
[12:37] <C|int> just a reminder to anyone, if your thinking gentoo is the solution, or SUSE 10.1, just make sure your ready for some non compatible systems, SUSE was slower than chit :)
[12:37] <Ng> mibuk: and dapper is in version freeze now
[12:38] <Ng> FariSS: ubuntu guide is junk :/
[12:38] <FariSS> NG what i do now ?
[12:38] <C|int> dapper is nice
[12:38] <FariSS> NG because i replaced a sources.lit with some code from the guide
[12:38] <Ng> FariSS: either disable that repository in synaptic or edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file directory
[12:38] <Ng> FariSS: you can go back to default sources...
[12:38] <Ng> !tell FariSS about sources
[12:38] <FariSS> thx
[12:39] <FariSS> ill try now and tell ya results
[12:39] <Samuli^> sensory, firstly make sure you're using correct upper and lower cases, secondly padlock icon emblem means you don't have rights to the file.
[12:39] <jhenn> my ubuntu install is stuck at "retrieving locales"
[12:40] <Ng> Samuli^: the padlock may just mean he can't write to it - tar was actually saying no such file or directory, so my guess is that he's looking in the wrong place
[12:41] <Ng> Samuli^: otherwise tar would be saying permission denied
[12:41] <archville> Hi.
[12:41] <Samuli^> Ng, yeah. I didn't mean that.
[12:41] <Ng> Samuli^: :)
[12:41] <Samuli^> I'm just saying what it means because he apparently didn't know.
[12:41] <Ng> Samuli^: fair enough, sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs :)
[12:42] <jhenn> anyone know why my ubuntu install is stuck at "retreiving locales"?
[12:42] <geniusvicks> I have a file with .deb extension how do I make it into a package
[12:42] <geniusvicks> or how do I indstall it
[12:42] <Ng> geniusvicks: a .deb file is a package already
[12:43] <Ng> geniusvicks: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/foo.deb
[12:43] <Samuli^> Ng, I've could've made myself more clear though.
[12:43] <Samuli^> -'ve
[12:43] <hflappy> ok this sux....anyone have experience with prism2.5 cards?  and how do i make it list a darn wlan0 or wifi0
[12:44] <hflappy> i keep havin a prism2_config() failed
[12:44] <hflappy> someone here must know how to fix that prism error ;)
[12:44] <hastesaver> What exactly does checkinstall do?
[12:44] <Ng> hastesaver: break things mostly ;)
[12:45] <Ng> hastesaver: the idea is that you can install software manually, but checkinstall will keep track of it
[12:45] <hastesaver> Ng, oh, so is it recommended to use it or not?
[12:45] <Ng> hastesaver: personally I don't like it, but other people do, so I guess it's a personal preference thing. I generally try to avoid installing any software manually if possible anyway
[12:45] <hastesaver> Ng, Does it keep track of what arbitrary scripts do?!
[12:46] <Ng> hastesaver: for any given piece of software it may work perfectly, partially or not at all. So, it's not a helpful answer, but I would say.... maybe
[12:46] <C|int> hello everyone,
[12:47] <julien_> hi
[12:47] <Ng> hflappy: which wireless card do you have?
[12:47] <C|int> hi
[12:47] <C|int> i'm working on my wireless today, hee
[12:47] <Ng> C|int: you can stop saying hello, we can see you :)
[12:47] <julien_> anybody speaks french ?
[12:47] <Ng> !fr
[12:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:47] <C|int> well, I didn't get a response, you can see me, but that didn't mean people were saying hello back :-)
[12:47] <ubuntux> salve a tutti.
[12:47] <jhenn> anyone know why my ubuntu install is stuck at "retreiving locales"?
[12:47] <ubuntux> qualcuno mi aiuta a configurare i plugin java su mozilla??
[12:48] <ubuntux> (firefox)
[12:48] <ompaul> C|int, 680+ replies would make the channel unusable
[12:48] <snowfaked> ubuntux: please speak english
[12:48] <aLeSD> ubuntux: qua in inglese
[12:48] <C|int> hi ubuntux :)
[12:48] <ubuntux> ok, sorry.
[12:48] <Ng> !es
[12:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:48] <ompaul> !it
[12:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:48] <C|int> not all are watching :)
[12:48] <snowfaked> ubuntux: you might know that not everyone on this planet speaks italian
[12:48] <snowfaked> which little contradicts the italian thinking ;)
[12:48] <hastesaver> "The real-time clock function must be compiled into your Linux kernel." How do I make sure of that?
[12:48] <C|int> man I'm having a blast with ubuntu today :-)
[12:49] <FariSS> leroi@sunlov:~$ sudo apt-get install acroread
[12:49] <FariSS> Reading package lists... Done
[12:49] <FariSS> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:49] <FariSS> E: Couldn't find package acroread
[12:49] <FariSS> leroi@sunlov:~$
[12:49] <ubuntux> yes, i know it as i know that not everyone on this planet speak english!
[12:49] <FariSS> :s:s:s
[12:49] <ubuntux> :D
[12:49] <C|int> ture ubuntux
[12:49] <ompaul> C|int, have you a ubuntu question, this is a very busy support channel, we don't do conversation very well, that is in the channel  #ubuntu-offtopic  ;-)
[12:49] <FariSS> how to install acrobat
[12:49] <C|int> ;)
[12:49] <FariSS> i follow instructions on user guide
[12:49] <aLeSD> how to reconfigure alsa ?
[12:49] <ubuntux> by the way, i need an help in configuring java plugin in mozilla firefox.
[12:49] <aLeSD> I changed my audio board
[12:49] <Ng> FariSS: are you on hoary? if so yo uprobably need to enable the multiverse repository
[12:49] <same3r> hi guys
[12:49] <ubuntux> the java help-page offer a good step-2-step for mozilla, not for firefox..
[12:50] <firestorm> Hi. Have installed Ubuntu on a laptop and when I close it I cannot get it to recover. Have to shut it down and power it up again :(   Any hints?
[12:50] <same3r> is there a rar package  ??
[12:50] <jhenn> anyone know why my ubuntu install is stuck at "retreiving locales"?
[12:50] <Ng> same3r: it's in multiverse I believe. Enable universe and multiverse and search in synaptic :)
[12:50] <same3r> thanx ng
[12:51] <kbrooks> SO...
[12:51] <FariSS> Ng ill try now
[12:52] <notes> Hi,all
[12:52] <sneakacross> lol
[12:52] <sneakacross> you are alive
[12:52] <visik7> anyone using falcon ?
[12:53] <notes> Anybody here is ruby on rails programmer?
[12:53] <aLeSD> ubuntu is debian based ?
[12:53] <topyli> aLeSD: it is
[12:53] <soonindallas> hello.  I am looking for a tutorial on how to apply a patch to a package source.  astonishingly there is little info about this in the wiki. can anyone refer me to a howto ?
[12:54] <sneakacross> ..
[12:54] <sneakacross> does it need a howto?
[12:55] <jhenn> anyone know why my ubuntu install is stuck at "retreiving locales"?
[12:55] <Ng> soonindallas: the various debian related packaging documents will be fine - might be worth looking at the New Maintainers Guide. generally you just need to make a few modifications to files in the debian/ folder of the package
[12:55] <hflappy> anyone have experience with prism2.5 cards?  and how do i make it list a darn wlan0 or wifi0..i know this is a prism2.5 card and in dmesg it keeps saying prism2_config() failed....i need help getting a wlan0 or wifi0
[12:55] <aLeSD> people ... something like alsaconfig in ubuntu ????
[12:55] <rixth> My computer has the 33.8gb limit, how do I overcome it?
[12:56] <Frogzoo> soonindallas: this is one way of doing it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[12:56] <hflappy> aleSD: load up synaptic and do search for alsa
[12:57] <hflappy> aleSD: if u don't have X...then do apt-cache search alsa-config or alsaconfig or alsa
[12:58] <aLeSD> I think it there isn't ubuntu use a different system for alsa ... somkething like :
[12:58] <aLeSD> install snd-cs4281 modprobe --ignore-install snd-cs4281 && /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-cs4281
[12:58] <aLeSD> install snd-cs46xx modprobe --ignore-install snd-cs46xx && /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-cs46xx
[12:58] <aLeSD> install snd-darla20 modprobe --ignore-install snd-darla20 && /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-darla20
[12:58] <aLeSD> ....
[12:59] <aLeSD> in /etc/modprobe./alsa
[12:59] <aLeSD> uff
[12:59] <aLeSD> I hate strange thinghs
[12:59] <soonindallas> Ng: thanks, I was looking at the New Maintainers Guide this morning... it seems kind of too high level for my needs... really about administration ( as the name implies )
[12:59] <Frogzoo> !enter
[12:59] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:59] <jhenn> anyone know why my ubuntu install is stuck at "retreiving locales"?
[12:59] <hyphenated> IIRC, that step takes a while
[12:59] <Ng> soonindallas: I'd also recommend googling or checking sites like debian-administration - there's lots of useful info out there :)
[01:00] <dooglus> soonindallas: to apply a patch you generally just run "patch -p0 < patchfile" or something like that.
[01:00] <Chongablonga> hey, quick legal question
[01:00] <Frogzoo> Chongablonga: no one here can give you reliable legal advice
[01:00] <Chongablonga> well basically it's more of an opinion
[01:00] <hyphenated> is it illegal to give incorrect legal advice? :-)
[01:01] <hflappy> anyone have experience with prism2.5 cards?  and how do i make it list a darn wlan0 or wifi0..i know this is a prism2.5 card and in dmesg it keeps saying prism2_config() failed....i need help getting a wlan0 or wifi0
[01:01] <dooglus> hyphenated: it's not illegal to give wrong legal advice (IANAL)
[01:01] <Chongablonga> because i dont know a lot about trademarks n stuff, but anyway, i just noticed that someone has nicked the little ubuntu logo thingy for their software, and i just thought id be an asshole and try and get them in trouble
[01:01] <hyphenated> dooglus: hah :-)
[01:01] <LeeJunFan> hyphenated: lawyers do it all the time.
[01:01] <Chongablonga> well not for their software but anyway, nickage has occurred
[01:01] <Frogzoo> Chongablonga: I'd get in touch with Canonical, who I imagine, own the TM
[01:02] <Chongablonga> oic
[01:02] <Chongablonga> k no worries
[01:02] <Chongablonga> thanks anyway
[01:02] <soonindallas> Frogzoo: dooglus: thanks for your suggestions.  I'll take a look at that wiki page
[01:02] <dooglus> I'm thinking about buying an mp3 player.  Can someone recommend one that will work well with ubuntu?
[01:02] <dooglus> soonindallas: "man patch" is probably all you need to read.
[01:02] <dooglus> soonindallas: understand the -p flag and you're set to go
[01:03] <Frogzoo> dooglus: ipod's are supported by amarok
[01:03] <dooglus> Frogzoo: aren't ipods a tad expensive compared to the competition?
[01:04] <hyphenated> dooglus: probably. but they attract women
[01:04] <Pimpshizzled> hey dooglus, welcome back =)
[01:04] <Pimpshizzled> i didnt thank you for your help before
[01:04] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: how's your first ubuntu day going?
[01:04] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: you did!  :)
[01:05] <Pimpshizzled> dooglus: its amazing, once ive got my head around the graphics, then i should be set to start working on the apperence
[01:05] <hyphenated> soak it up, dooglus. most people forget to say thanks even once ;-)
[01:06] <dooglus> hyphenated: I've been promised quite a few pints of beer here over the last year; don't suppose I'll ever get to collect any of them though.  :)
[01:06] <Pimpshizzled> lol hyphenated, its a community support, thanks just aint enough sometimes, people get paid for the stuff u guys do
[01:06] <same3r> is there a way to see all the minimized window ?
[01:07] <FariSS> leroi@sunlov:~$ sudo apt-get install acroread
[01:07] <FariSS> Password:
[01:07] <FariSS> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:07] <FariSS> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:07] <FariSS> leroi@sunlov:~$
[01:07] <dooglus> same3r: in GNOME?
[01:07] <FariSS> NG
[01:07] <FariSS> look
[01:07] <DBO> dooglus, you and me both, not to say I havent drank those beers, but Im still waiting on the check =P
[01:07] <FariSS> ):
[01:07] <same3r> yea dooglus
[01:07] <hyphenated> FariSS: be careful with that pasting. use a pastebin in the future please
[01:07] <FariSS> how
[01:07] <hyphenated> FariSS: and something else is already installing packages. wait till that finishes
[01:07] <DBO> FariSS, do you have a package manager (like synaptics) open?
[01:07] <FariSS> im sorry
[01:07] <dooglus> FariSS: you've got synaptic running?  you can't run synaptic and apt-get at the same time
[01:07] <Ng> FariSS: close synaptic if you have it open (or any other apt-get processes)
[01:07] <Frogzoo> FariSS: please don't paste here
[01:07] <FariSS> yes
[01:07] <DBO> FariSS, close synaptic first
[01:07] <Pimpshizzled> hmm, apparently i need to reset for a kernel update, so ill catch u guys in a mo
[01:08] <same3r> any one any idea  ??
[01:08] <dooglus> same3r: I'm not sure what you mean.  you can't see minimised windows - they're minimised...
[01:08] <DBO> just us lurkers, what can we do for you?
[01:08] <FariSS> ok
[01:08] <hyphenated> he probably means like a taskbar or something
[01:08] <DBO> wait, I misread that...
[01:08] <FariSS> im sorry
[01:08] <FariSS> really
[01:08] <FariSS> ):
[01:09] <dooglus> hyphenated: well, he's got a taskbar - it's on by default in GNOME
[01:09] <hyphenated> Pimpshizzled: that's about the only thing that requires a reboot.
[01:09] <same3r> yea i can see them in the task bar
[01:09] <DBO> FariSS, its ok, we all learn (btw, dont use enter key as punctuation, thats annoying too)   =)
[01:09] <hyphenated> same3r: but that's not what you want?
[01:09] <same3r> but i want something that enable me to see all the window
[01:09] <firestorm> Hi. Have installed Ubuntu on a laptop and when I close it I cannot get it to recover. Have to shut it down and power it up again :(   Any hints?
[01:09] <dooglus> hyphenated: ubuntu is asking me to reboot right now.  I see the little 'reboot' icon in the notification area - but I don't think any kernel was installed recently.
[01:10] <dooglus> same3r: you can add a 'window list' to the GNOME panel if that's what you mean.
[01:10] <DBO> dooglus, lots of things cause that reboot icon to show up.  Amoung those are a new hal and other similar core packages
[01:10] <dooglus> same3r: right-click on some empty space in the panel and 'add to panel'
[01:10] <hyphenated> dooglus: that's no good. in theory, it should only be for the kernel and things tied really closely to it
[01:11] <dooglus> hyphenated: there was a new dbus for dapper this morning - maybe that's what did it.
[01:12] <same3r> dooglus: i already got that
[01:12] <same3r> but see when a window get minimized u cann't see wat is happening in
[01:12] <same3r> like if ur using irc
[01:12] <DBO> hyphenated, I believe it also asks for a restart when it messes with init (I guess just to prove it works?)
[01:13] <dooglus> same3r: if you want to see what's in a window, don't minimise it.  I still don't understand your problem.
[01:13] <hyphenated> DBO: maybe. or maybe because restarting it as part of installing the package is nasty, especially if it's a daemon
[01:14] <same3r> something like minized shot of windows
[01:14] <same3r> to see wat is happening
[01:14] <DBO> hyphenated, shuting down some deamons while you are running can be rather upsetting to X =P
[01:15] <dooglus> DBO: initscripts asks for a reboot only if it has just been updated to a version older than '2.86.ds1-6ubuntu12' (for some reason)
[01:15] <dooglus> same3r: oh, I see.  GNOME doesn't do that, but some window managers do.  try 'enlightenment' for example
[01:15] <DBO> well Ill tell you what, Ill test that right now, I have an initscript update available =P
[01:16] <dooglus> DBO: check 'dpkg -l initscripts' first to see what version you have now.
[01:16] <DBO> ubuntu29
[01:17] <dooglus> DBO: right.  I had that this morning, and it got updated to ubuntu 30.  maybe that's what caused the reboot flag to come up, but I don't think so, looking at it's postinst script.
[01:17] <FariSS> DBO i have another problem
[01:17] <same3r> ah
[01:17] <FariSS> :s
[01:17] <FariSS> could y help me
[01:17] <archville> Any program to change monitor brigthness/contrast by software ?
[01:18] <FariSS> well i cant past , how i do ?
[01:18] <foxpaul> hi all - i've got a machine with two network cards (internal IP and external IP) and i need to be able to connect to the internal one (wireless) and ping the external one
[01:18] <same3r> is enlightment any good ??
[01:18] <DBO> FariSS, sure, what is wrong?
[01:18] <same3r> never used it ??
[01:18] <foxpaul> i think i need to add a route, but not sure which details i need - does anyone have an idea?
[01:18] <FariSS> DBO during installing sun-j2re1.5
[01:18] <FariSS> it give me this msg : E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[01:19] <FariSS> ):
[01:19] <hyphenated> foxpaul: address, netmask, gateway, network interface
[01:19] <DBO> FariSS, "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4" will get you 1.4,  unless you really need 1.5 there is no big difference
[01:19] <dooglus> same3r: some people like it - it's quite 'flashy', lots of eye candy.
[01:19] <DBO> dooglus, no reboot flag
[01:20] <foxpaul> hyphenated, is that the address of the external nic, it's netmask (different from internal interface), it's own gateway, etc ?
[01:20] <dooglus> DBO: are you on dapper?
[01:20] <FariSS> ok thx DBO , im just following the ubuntu guide steps , and i get many errors , its not a usefull guide really :s
[01:20] <DBO> dooglus, yes
[01:20] <dooglus> DBO: and you didn't get a reboot flag come up at all recently?
[01:20] <DBO> dooglus, oh no I get it most every update =P
[01:21] <dooglus> DBO: it would be interesting if the update flag would tell me something about why the reboot was needed.
[01:21] <hyphenated> foxpaul: no.. address is an address in the range the route applies to. very closely related to the netmask. and the gateway is the machine to send these packets to
[01:21] <DBO> dooglus, if you examine the update beforehand you can usually figure out which package is going to flag you
[01:21] <dooglus> DBO: if it's a kernel update you get a separate icon with 'post install information' saying "the kernel has been updated, reboot ASAP" or some such.
[01:22] <hyphenated> the interface is your local NIC that represents the cable it should use to get to that gateway
[01:22] <DBO> heh, pfft, running custom kernel anyhow
[01:22] <dooglus> DBO: I can see from the dpkg.log what packages were installed, but none of them look like they would trigger a reboot.
[01:22] <FariSS> DBO look : Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:22] <FariSS> :s
[01:22] <DBO> !repos
[01:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:22] <DBO> first link FariSS
[01:22] <Pimpshizzled> dooglus: hey guy, i have the drivers in for my NV5700, but i cant seem to get a better res than 1024x768, am i missing something dya think?
[01:23] <hyphenated> foxpaul: was that clear enough, or do you still need more details?
[01:23] <FariSS> DBO i did all Multiverse already
[01:23] <p62> ru
[01:23] <DBO> FariSS, did you do universe?
[01:23] <foxpaul> hyphenated, not really sure, sorry
[01:23] <FariSS> DBO i do universe Multiverse
[01:23] <DBO> Pimpshizzled, /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> pastebin
[01:23] <hyphenated> foxpaul: ok, I'll come up with an explanation and put it in a pastebin or something
[01:24] <foxpaul> if my external details are 213.145.103.14 (nm 255.255.255.40) and the internal ones are 192.168.102.254 (nm 255.255.255.0) i dont know which details are needed to route from internal to external
[01:24] <FariSS> DBO on all repositories
[01:24] <foxpaul> hyphenated, thanks ^
[01:24] <DBO> FariSS, /etc/apt/sources.list -> pastebin
[01:25] <Pimpshizzled> pastebin?
[01:25] <DBO> !pastebin
[01:25] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:25] <Pimpshizzled> ahhh
[01:26] <nomike> hi
[01:26] <FariSS> DBO root@sunlov:/home/leroi# /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:26] <FariSS> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[01:26] <FariSS> :s
[01:26] <matti> FariSS: sudo
[01:26] <Pimpshizzled> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14114
[01:26] <DBO> FariSS, "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then put the text in pastebin
[01:26] <DBO> Pimpshizzled, what resolution do you want?
[01:27] <Pimpshizzled> 1600x1200
[01:27] <jdmpike> hey everyone
[01:27] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: I don't know about graphics cards - I have a crappy laptop with on-board graphics.
[01:27] <FariSS> pastebin leroi@sunlov:~$ sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:27] <FariSS> sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[01:27] <Pimpshizzled> dooglus: np guy =)
[01:28] <matti> FariSS: sudo <some editor here> /etc/apt/sources.list :-)
[01:28] <foxpaul> hyphenated, i have to go for a few mins. will brb, thanks for the help
[01:28] <DBO> Pimpshizzled, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14115 make the changes I made then restart X
[01:28] <dooglus> DBO: take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/dbus.postinst - there's a comment that says "Do not restart dbus on upgrades, only on fresh installations", but the code which follows it seems to recommend a reboot only if dbus is already running - does that look right to you?
[01:29] <DBO> FariSS, I want you to put the contents of that file into pastebin...
[01:29] <DBO> matti, you think you can help him do that?
[01:29] <FariSS> DBO im
[01:29] <matti> DBO: If he know, how to use sudo and any editor - probably.
[01:30] <matti> FariSS: :-)
[01:30] <DBO> matti, he doesnt need sudo because hes not going to edit it right now, we just want the contents in pastebin =)
[01:30] <matti> DBO: Oh, so then... Sorry for interrupting ;-p
[01:30] <matti> DBO: :-)
[01:31] <DBO> matti, its ok, you're doing fine =_
[01:31] <DBO> =)
[01:31] <FariSS> DBO http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14116
[01:31] <FariSS> :)
[01:31] <DBO> hey hey!
[01:31] <matti> FariSS: :-)))
[01:31] <FariSS> thx guys :)
[01:31] <DBO> FariSS, still on hoary huh?
[01:31] <jdmpike> does anyone know of any open source software that can do screencasts?
[01:31] <FariSS> i think yes
[01:32] <DBO> FariSS, what will it take to convince you to do an upgrade *this is why things arent working*
[01:32] <dooglus> FariSS: "lsb_release -d" will tell you
[01:32] <FariSS> DBO upgrade ? i did an update right now ,whats the command to do upgrade :s
[01:32] <FariSS> ok lemme try
[01:32] <DBO> dooglus, you are right, it looks backwards...  but I could be wrong I only glanced at it
[01:33] <jdmpike> can anyone hear me?
[01:33] <DBO> FariSS, are you on highspeed?
[01:33] <DBO> jdmpike, just us ducks
[01:33] <jdmpike> I just installed ircII and I am note sure if it working
[01:33] <FariSS> DBO yes 20 MB
[01:33] <same3r> wat is best recommend windows manager ?
[01:33] <dooglus> DBO: I think I get it now...  that test says "if dbus is already running then flag a reboot and exit, else start dbus" - so it is right.  it means that updating dbus will always need a reboot once it's installed - and it's installed when you install ubuntu...
[01:34] <DBO> FariSS, do you want to upgrade to breezy?
[01:34] <dooglus> jdmpike: it's working.  but irssi is nicer IMHO
[01:34] <apokryphos> same3r: metacity is default in gnome, and kwin is default in kde.
[01:34] <FariSS> DBO look : leroi@sunlov:~$ lsb_release -d
[01:34] <FariSS> Description:    Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release)
[01:34] <Frogzoo> same3r: best to start with gnome
[01:34] <DBO> dooglus, hmmmm, ok, boy those nested if statements throw my brain for a loop
[01:34] <same3r> already used that, gnome and kde
[01:35] <jdmpike> dooglus, is irssi cli?
[01:35] <dooglus> DBO: the outside one checks that there's a file holding the process number for the dbus daemon, and the inner one checks that the process is still running.
[01:35] <jdmpike> dooglus, I need it to work through ssh
[01:35] <Frogzoo> jdmpike: yup
[01:35] <same3r> but looking for something better, if there is any
[01:35] <dooglus> jdmpike: it is
[01:35] <DBO> FariSS, how very strange
[01:35] <DBO> dooglus, yeah I see it now...
[01:35] <dooglus> same3r: try enlightenment
[01:35] <dooglus> jdmpike: I'm using irssi inside a remote screen session, through ssh right now.  it works great.
[01:35] <DBO> dooglas, FariSS's sources.list shows hes running hoary, yet lsb_release shows breezy, you thinking he accidentally downgraded?
[01:36] <same3r> apt-get ??
[01:36] <same3r> or something else
[01:36] <FariSS> :s
[01:36] <dooglus> DBO: I think he needs to replace hoary with breezy in his sources.list
[01:36] <DBO> i think so too
[01:36] <dooglus> FariSS: what do you see if you run "dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop"?
[01:37] <FariSS> ive mistyped something maybe , cause i just updated today
[01:37] <DBO> FariSS, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14117
[01:37] <DBO> FariSS, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:37] <DBO> FariSS, change the file that command opens to look like the one in the link I gave you
[01:37] <DBO> (I call enter on me)
[01:38] <dooglus> FariSS: the versions of ubuntu-desktop are: warty: 0.3; hoary: 0.43; breezy: 0.80; dapper: 0.114
[01:38] <FariSS> wait dooglus , i use pastebin to show you
[01:39] <DBO> FariSS, ignore what I said earlier, just run this one command
[01:39] <dooglus> FariSS: I'm only interested in the last line.  you can paste that here.
[01:39] <Pimpshizzled> DBO: i cannot edit that file with the resolutions without having root access?
[01:39] <Pimpshizzled> is that right?
[01:39] <FariSS> dooglus : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14118
[01:39] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: you can use "sudo gedit /path/to/file" to edit it as root
[01:40] <DBO> FariSS, "sudo su; sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:40] <FariSS> ii  ubuntu-desktop            0.80                      The Ubuntu desktop system
[01:40] <DBO> FariSS, just put that into a command prompt and press enter
[01:40] <dooglus> FariSS: 0.80 is the breezy version; you're running breezy.
[01:40] <FariSS> ok DBO
[01:40] <DBO> FariSS, when it asks you for a password, give it your passward that you use to log in
[01:40] <FariSS> :s
[01:41] <dooglus> FariSS: don't run that line - it's not right.
[01:41] <FariSS> ok brothers
[01:41] <FariSS> thx
[01:41] <DBO> dooglus, whats wrong with it?
[01:41] <dooglus> DBO: you can't separate those commands with semicolons
[01:41] <FariSS> :s
[01:41] <hflappy> anyone have experience with prism2.5 cards?  and how do i make it list a darn wlan0 or wifi0..i know this is a prism2.5 card and in dmesg it keeps saying prism2_config() failed....i need help getting a wlan0 or wifi0
[01:41] <FariSS> what
[01:41] <FariSS> aham
[01:41] <FariSS> so what i do now guys ):
[01:41] <FariSS> im confuse
[01:41] <dooglus> DBO: "sudo su" makes a new shell, a root shell.  the root shell will read commands until you exit; then the "sed -e" will run, in the original shell, as the original user.
[01:41] <DBO> dooglus, yeah dumb me
[01:41] <Pimpshizzled> brb folks
[01:42] <T``> what does gdm use to choose the resolution of the screen?
[01:42] <FariSS> lol
[01:42] <FariSS> dooglus , i type what bro ):
[01:42] <T``> my laptop goes into 1920x1440 when i do startx from shell
[01:42] <DBO> FariSS, "sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:42] <T``> but its going to 1680x... when i do it thru gdm
[01:42] <DBO> that will work though
[01:42] <dooglus> DBO: you can "sudo bash -c 'sed; apt; etc"
[01:42] <T``> how can that me?!
[01:42] <T``> s/me/be
[01:42] <visik7> dooglus: do u use falcon ?
[01:42] <FariSS> DBO thats correct line ?
[01:42] <dooglus> visik7: I never heard of falcon
[01:43] <DBO> FariSS, yeah, should work
[01:43] <visik7> dooglus: do u manage a repository ?
[01:43] <FariSS> thx
[01:43] <FariSS> ill try and tell ya
[01:43] <dooglus> visik7: nope
[01:43] <visik7> :(
[01:43] <dooglus> visik7: what are the packages you have to offer?
[01:43] <visik7> vim 7
[01:44] <dooglus> visik7: oh; that goes against my religion anyway I'm afraid.
[01:44] <visik7> ?!?!
[01:44] <dooglus> visik7: I'm a 7th-day emacsian
[01:44] <DBO> dooglus, strict vi?
[01:44] <DBO> dooglus, you traitor...
[01:45] <dooglus> DBO: traitor to what cause?
[01:45] <ompaul> the cause of nano
[01:45] <ompaul> perhaps that was a little offtopic?
[01:45] <DBO> nano!?  vi...
[01:45] <DBO> ok OT we are...
[01:45] <FariSS> DBO , dooglus Dowloading
[01:46] <DBO> FariSS, good to hear
[01:46] <DBO> FariSS, sorry about the original command line FUBAR, its 8AM here, and Im on the wrong side of the clock
[01:47] <ompaul> smurf, pm?
[01:47] <Pimpshizzled> DBO, it doesnt seem to have worked, maybe i should try and install the drivers from NV's site? if they have them for this card that is.
[01:47] <FariSS> Fetched 135MB in 2m23s (943kB/s)
[01:47] <dooglus> DBO: me too, only it's 13:47 here
[01:47] <FariSS> :))
[01:47] <FariSS> thx for yr help guys
[01:47] <FariSS> y are really cool
[01:47] <FariSS> :)
[01:47] <DBO> Pimpshizzled, did you restart X?
[01:48] <Pimpshizzled> DBO, i reset the whole machine
[01:48] <jdmpike> dooglus, thanks for the reco - this must be what xchat uses, it was already installed!
[01:48] <DBO> Pimpshizzled, ok, in that case yes, install nvidia's proprietary blob drivers
[01:48] <dooglus> jdmpike: remind me?
[01:48] <DBO> !nvidia
[01:48] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:48] <DBO> FariSS, I keep telling all the girls that, but they dont listen
[01:48] <jdmpike> dooglus, using irssi vs. ircII
[01:48] <FariSS> DBO lol
[01:49] <FariSS> hahaha
[01:49] <FariSS> DBO thats right
[01:49] <dooglus> jdmpike: xchat doesn't use irssi - they're separate programs.  but they may well both be in the default install
[01:49] <T``> hmm
[01:49] <usuario> ahola
[01:49] <T``> why isn't mplayer in the apt-get?
[01:49] <T``> i can't find it
[01:50] <T``> anyone else have this prob??
[01:50] <bimberi> !mplayer
[01:50] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:50] <DBO> !tell T`` about repos
[01:50] <bobslaede> T``: it aint in mine
[01:50] <DBO> its in universe
[01:50] <bobslaede> oh...
[01:50] <bimberi> multiverse (iirc)
[01:50] <ompaul> apt-cache policy mplayer shows nothing
[01:51] <jdmpike> does anyone know of free software that can make screen casts
[01:51] <jdmpike> so you can record demos and such
[01:51] <DBO> bimberi, multiverse, you are right
[01:51] <jdmpike> to put on a website
[01:51] <ompaul> mplayer is on the restricted formats web page
[01:51] <linux_galore> jdmpike: slide shows ??
[01:51] <bimberi> jdmpike: you could try istanbul
[01:52] <bimberi> !info istanbul
[01:52] <ubotu> istanbul: (desktop session recorder), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 60 kB, Installed size: 324 kB
[01:53] <dooglus> jdmpike: read this: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/ZwaX/05-05-18-xchatmovie.htm
[01:53] <T``> hmm
[01:53] <aLeSD> why I cannot see video with totem ?
[01:54] <T``> why can't "open display" if i do a su - and login as root
[01:54] <T``> i set the DISPLAY to :0.0
[01:54] <T``> doesn't work
[01:54] <T``> grrr
[01:54] <moua> hi
[01:54] <ompaul> !root
[01:54] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:54] <T``> ooh
[01:54] <T``> uh strange
[01:54] <moua> does someone know something to convert .bin to .iso ?
[01:54] <ompaul> no its been like this since the start
[01:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell T`` about enter
[01:54] <mjr> moua, bchunk
[01:55] <T``> i logged in as single and had to change the pass so it will let me in
[01:55] <T``> haha
[01:55] <T``> damn
[01:55] <lss> Hi, is there any easy-way (e.g. synaptic way) to install any client to soulseek?..
[01:55] <moua> thanks mjr i will look at this
[01:55] <ompaul> !enter
[01:55] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[01:55] <dooglus> T``: because "su -" means "become root, and use root's environment".  root's environment doesn't have the environment variable containing the magic word needed to talk to your X server.
[01:55] <ompaul> T``,  ^^^^ two lines please note
[01:55] <dooglus> T``: if you just "su" instead of "su -" then I think it will work
[01:55] <dooglus> lss: try "nicotine"
[01:56] <dooglus> !info nicotine
[01:56] <ubotu> nicotine: (graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 291 kB, Installed size: 1488 kB
[01:56] <lss> lss,  do i need to add an extra repository?
[01:56] <bimberi> T``: you can run gui apps as root with 'gksudo foo'
[01:56] <aLeSD> toem says me There were no decoders found to handle the stream
[01:56] <lss> ops
[01:56] <aLeSD> where could I find codecs ?
[01:56] <gnomefreak> lss: enable universe for it
[01:56] <dooglus> lss: you need to add 'universe' if you don't have it already.  see:
[01:56] <dooglus> !universe
[01:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell aLeSD -about codecs
[01:56] <ompaul> !tell aLeSD about restricted
[01:56] <lss> Thanks a lot.
[01:56] <DBO> dooglus, you can of course fix that by defining $DISPLAY
[01:57] <dooglus> DBO: I don't think so - you also need the secret 'cookie' in $XAUTHORITY
[01:57] <jdmpike> bimberi, istanbul looks like exactly what I want
[01:57] <gnomefreak> ;) give me time ill slow down as i start drinking coffee
[01:57] <visik7> ok cooked
[01:57] <gnomefreak> ok now need to read on nicotine
[01:58] <visik7> anyone want to test my debs of vim7 ?
[01:58] <bobslaede> i got a problem with usbmount, apparently it doesnt understand that my usb disk (/dev/sda /dev/sda1) has a filesystem, and wont mount it. I created a symlink from /sbin/vol_id to /sbin/udev_volume_id, as udev_volume_id isnt there.
[01:58] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it's a soulseek client written in Python.  Pretty easy to use, but last time I looked on the soulseek network it wasn't as busy as it used to be.  bittorrent seems to be the place to be these days.
[01:58] <runa> hi i wrote the ubuntu dvd but it is not bootable
[01:59] <runa> what did i miss
[01:59] <bimberi> jdmpike: great, it was a bit "beta" when i last used it but hopefully it will work for you :)
[01:59] <gnomefreak> whats soul-seek?
[02:00] <ompaul> runa, you burn an image not a file
[02:00] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it's a p2p network, primarily for music files, but also has other stuff
[02:00] <lss> soulseek is a brilliant music network for sharing
[02:00] <gnomefreak> ok so sortof like limewire or frostwire?
[02:00] <runa> ompaul so i did i wright
[02:00] <lss> gnomefreak,  No... it's not shit
[02:00] <runa> right
[02:00] <dooglus> lss: it can only download each file from one person at a time, and doesn't use any kind of hashing to verify downloads, does it?
[02:00] <ompaul> runa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto and do it at a low speed
[02:01] <lss> dooglus,  Wrong, you can donwload as many files as you want.
[02:01] <lss> dooglus,  No hashing
[02:01] <dooglus> lss: yes, but each file comes from a single user.
[02:01] <ompaul> lss, I understand your excited, just a quick reminder it is a G rated channel, thanks :-)
[02:01] <lss> dooglus,  yeah but it's community is huge
[02:02] <lss> ompaul,  sorry, i'll say poo next time.
[02:02] <Hso> hey ;)
[02:02] <aLeSD> thanks it works
[02:02] <FariSS> DBO dooglus , everyhting done successfuly thx guys
[02:02] <FariSS> :))
[02:02] <ompaul> lss, I would rather if you didn't say either
[02:02] <dooglus> "STEP2: instead of s**t say poo as in bull poo, poo head and this poo is cold"
[02:02] <Hso> Can someone help me install Firefox 1.5.0.3 ? It doesn't appear in Automatix or EasyUbuntu, so I need to do it manually.. but i'm not sure how >_<;;
[02:02] <DBO> FariSS, sure, bad day for me, made several mistakes =P
[02:03] <runa> ompaul i did i like this is it correct growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso -speed=4
[02:03] <kbrooks> hso:
[02:03] <Hso> yes?
[02:03] <FariSS> DBO no bro , y are great and cool ;)
[02:03] <kbrooks> !ff1.5
[02:03] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:03] <ompaul> dooglus, step three is I do /cs op #ubuntu ompaul
[02:03] <Hso> !ff1.5
[02:03] <Hso> nothing?
[02:03] <Hso> oh, there it is :P
[02:03] <FariSS> DBO i like linux from long time , and now im determined to learn it
[02:03] <T``> hmm.. this wiki seems outdated to add universe and multiverse
[02:03] <Hso> 9seconds ago.. so unhelpful _
[02:03] <T``> i'm using 6.06
[02:04] <DBO> FariSS, its easier to larn than windows
[02:04] <Hso> !ff1.5
[02:04] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:04] <ompaul> runa, too much like work, try this fire up nautilus, right click on the image in the directory and choose Burn Image to Disk
[02:04] <FariSS> DBO i hope so , many commands , but i like it , its like y speack with yr machine
[02:04] <xiao>  make
[02:05] <runa> i know i dont want to make another cd useless
[02:05] <dooglus> FariSS: you've got the drppng vwls thng off pat.  you'll pck lnx up in no time
[02:05] <RandolphCarter> somebody should fix the .bashrc file to check for 'xterm' instead of 'xterm-color' :/
[02:05] <gnomefreak> T`: instead of the word breezy use the word dapper
[02:05] <runa> thats why i am asking
[02:05] <T`> so i selected Community maintained (Universe)
[02:05] <gnomefreak> xiao: english please
[02:05] <runa> ls
[02:05] <Hso> whoa... anyone here understand chinese? lol
[02:05] <T`> now i hit edit, and check mark, non-0free (multiverse)
[02:05] <T`> too?
[02:05] <ompaul> xiao,  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:05] <gnomefreak> T`: yes i would
[02:05] <RandolphCarter> wow, go ompaul
[02:05] <T`> gnomefreak, oh.. so both are checkmarked?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> ompaul: english lol
[02:06] <T`> gnomefreak, i also have another repo which says multiverse, ubunto 6.06 backports
[02:06] <DBO> bye good friend gnomefreak...
[02:06] <dooglus> !cn
[02:06] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese, please join #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-tw
[02:06] <gnomefreak> not nice ;)
[02:06] <T`> gnomefreak, i also have another repo which says multiverse, ubunto 6.06 backports
[02:06] <bina> what is the program that asks you lots of questions about how you set up your ATI card (with flgrx) and sets up your Xorg config?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> T`: no backports yet
[02:06] <T`> okok
[02:07] <FariSS> dooglus :s i didnt understand what y said :s:s:s:s:s
[02:07] <DBO> he said you got this dropping vowels thing down really well (linux commands tend to be words without the vowels)
[02:09] <Pimpshizzled> dooglus, what was that command again so i can edit my resolutions?
[02:09] <dooglus> what's :s ?
[02:09] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: I don't think that was me telling you that...
[02:09] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: oh, you mean "sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list" - yes, that was me.
[02:10] <Pimpshizzled> thats the 1 =D
[02:10] <dooglus> Pimpshizzled: oh, you mean "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" - yes, that was me.
[02:10] <dooglus> (missed an 's')
[02:10] <jdmpike> does anyone in here use truecrypt?
[02:10] <jdmpike> I had some problems mounting my truecrypt usb drive
[02:10] <DBO> dooglus, call me niave, but how is he going to edit his resolution with the apt sources?
[02:11] <DBO> s/niave/naive/
[02:11] <T`> hmm damn.. the whole screen is really weird on my laptop
[02:11] <jdmpike> dbo just evian backwards
[02:11] <T`> the movie is very pixellized.. something wrong with my drivers i think
[02:11] <DBO> jdmpike, how do you think I caught to error? =P
[02:11] <lesshaste> anyone know a magic one-liner to strip all html tags from a file? It is driving me mad :)
[02:11] <dooglus> DBO: heheh.  I told you it was late.
[02:12] <octan> im trying to blacklist a modle "spca5xx"  i put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but its still loading when i boot up
[02:12] <dooglus> lesshaste: how about    sed 's/<[^<] *>//g' file | less
[02:12] <Raovq> i used module-assitant, and it downloaded linux-(something) and now synaptic wants to install 600 updates
[02:13] <Raovq> is that right?
[02:13] <lesshaste> dooglus, does that deal with tags that go over several lines?
[02:13] <dooglus> lesshaste: nope.
 why dont you ask in #bash
[02:13] <lesshaste> dooglus, ok.. I have just discovered lynx -dump :))
[02:13] <dooglus> lesshaste: for that you'd probably use a Perl script
[02:13] <ompaul> Raovq, what version of Ubuntu have you got?
[02:14] <Raovq> its breezy
[02:14] <Raovq> whats the command to get the kenerl version>
[02:14] <ompaul> Raovq,  that does not seem right
[02:14] <octan> uname -r
[02:14] <Samuli^> uname -r
[02:14] <gnomefreak> Raovq: uname -r
[02:14] <Samuli^> :P
[02:14] <EnUm> helllo there
[02:14] <octan> lol
[02:14] <jdmpike> is there a Dapper 64 channel?
[02:14] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[02:14] <gnomefreak> jdmpike: #ubuntu+1
[02:14] <Raovq> 2.6.12-10-386
[02:14] <ompaul> jdmpike, thats as close as it gets
[02:15] <gnomefreak> Raovq: thats breezy kernel
[02:15] <EnUm> does anyone know a program for ubuntu that simulates or allows me to use a win nt,2000 or xp program?
[02:15] <ompaul> Raovq, that is current
[02:15] <T`> what do you guys use as -vo for mplayer in ubuntu? i dont have xv
[02:15] <lesshaste> EnUm, wine
[02:15] <Raovq> i had no updates needed before, now it wants many
[02:15] <ompaul> EnUm, wine, cedega for games
[02:15] <lesshaste> EnUm, or you can actually run the whole of windows in linux with qemu or vmware
[02:15] <ompaul> Raovq,  it does not look right
[02:16] <gnomefreak> vmware?
[02:16] <lesshaste> yep
[02:16] <Raovq> synaptic is saying that some upgrades require removal of some software
[02:16] <gnomefreak> ompaul: you on dapper?
[02:16] <Raovq> suggests i run apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:16] <EnUm> how does qemu work?
[02:16] <ompaul> Raovq, put the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:16] <EnUm> does wine alo support win 2000,nt and xp?`
[02:16] <lesshaste> EnUm, best to read their docs
[02:16] <ompaul> gnomefreak, my notebook is running it here beside me this is 5.10
[02:16] <Raovq> rightyo
[02:16] <lesshaste> EnUm, wine lets you run apps
[02:17] <lesshaste> EnUm, vmware and qemu actually run the whole of windows
[02:17] <gnomefreak> ompaul: care to help in #ubuntu+1 they both got me stumped
[02:17] <ompaul> if I can :-)
[02:17] <EnUm> ok,i see.so i jut need to run a singel program,that needs win xp or 2000 support,so i try to use wine,right?
[02:17] <Raovq> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14119
[02:18] <Raovq> ah, i see it now. i have a dapper resource in there
[02:18] <Raovq> i added it to get ntfs write support sorted
[02:19] <gnomefreak> EnUm: what program?
[02:19] <T`> hmm
[02:19] <T`> gl, and gl2 work ok.. but is this what you guys use to play with mplaer?
[02:19] <Raovq> there we go, all sorted, only thre mysql updates to do now
[02:20] <EnUm> i don't think,that u know the programm gnomefreak.it is called Gk1,a software for the university
[02:20] <lesshaste> EnUm, look at the wine website. It has a database of apps that work/don't work
[02:20] <gnomefreak> Raovq: thats not a good idea
[02:21] <gnomefreak> Raovq: your sources list being mixed like that your just looking for trouble
[02:21] <Reon> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:21] <Reon> kernel?
[02:21] <_JuDgEn_> howdy
[02:21] <gnomefreak> !headers
[02:21] <ubotu> To install linux headers, open a console and type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:21] <T`> anyone know how to see which package of mplayer is installed?
[02:21] <T`> or any other apt package i guess.. in general
[02:21] <EnUm> ok,thank u very much
[02:21] <bbrazil> T`: dpkg -l packagename
[02:21] <dooglus> lesshaste: this works on tags which span lines: perl -e '$_ = join("", <>); s/<[^<] *>//g; print;' file.htm
[02:22] <gnomefreak> apt-cache policy <packagename>
[02:22] <lesshaste> dooglus, brilliant :) !
[02:22] <DBO> lesshaste, you still looking to get rid of html tags?
[02:22] <lesshaste> DBO, yep
[02:22] <Reon> Help!
[02:22] <Reon> What is the location of the directory of C header files for my kernel ???
[02:22] <dooglus> does anyone know Perl?  I'd like to know how that should be done...
[02:22] <Reon> trying to install vmserver and it wants to compile something
[02:22] <DBO> lesshaste, (make a backup of your file first) "sed -e 's/<.*>//' -i /path/to/file"
[02:23] <Reon> vmmon
[02:23] <DBO> lesshaste, that will erase all the html tags (or anything inside <these> for that matter)
[02:23] <Pimpshizzled> hey folks, i got the nvidia drivers working.. lol, no better resolutions tho, gonna have a sniff though the forums methinks
[02:24] <dooglus> DBO: he wants to be able to remove tags which span lines too though
[02:24] <_JuDgEn_> how do i get fglrx to work with both videooverlay and opengloverlay?
[02:24] <dooglus> DBO: sed only works on individual lines, right?
[02:24] <DBO> lesshaste, "sed -e 's/<.*>//g' -i /path/to/file"
[02:24] <lesshaste> the problem is that lynx - dump file|wc -w and    perl -e '$_ = join("", <>); s/<[^<] *>//g; print;' file |wc -w give different answers :(
[02:24] <DBO> dooglus, eh... that will kill lots of them...
[02:25] <dooglus> DBO: another problem, it will delete the whole of "<BR>blah<BR>", whereas he wants to keep the 'blah' bit
[02:25] <lesshaste>  lynx -dump
[02:25] <DBO> dooglus, let me test that...
[02:25] <same3r> any package to extract uharc ??
[02:25] <dooglus> lesshaste: my perl script will turn "a<BR>b" into "ab" - a single word.  lynx will put them on separate lines.
[02:26] <dooglus> lesshaste: how about this: perl -e '$_ = join("", <>); s/<[^<] *>/ /g; print;' file.htm
[02:26] <DBO> dooglus, yeah, you are right, that kills too much...
[02:26] <dooglus> lesshaste: it replaces tags with spaces - you'll end up with a bigger word count, but now maybe too big.
[02:26] <dooglus> DBO: sed 's/<[^>] *>//g' is better
[02:27] <dooglus> DBO: instead of '.' inside the <>, it only accepts non-> characters
[02:27] <Reon> where are the c header files stored ???
[02:27] <dooglus> Reon: /usr/src/kernel-headers*/
[02:27] <dooglus> Reon: you'll need to install package 'kernel-headers'
[02:27] <duda> hello all! im on the dapper ubuntu, and the easyubuntu doesnt seems to work. it claims about some broke packages, how can i put it to work?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> Reon: i told you already
[02:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Reon -about headers
[02:28] <Reon> dooglus, thanks. Hopefully i can get vmserver going
[02:28] <duda> i changed the apt-sources from br to us, and it found a other packages do update
[02:28] <FariSS> dooglus is there any better ubuntu guide bro ??
[02:28] <gnomefreak> duda: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[02:28] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[02:28] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[02:28] <duda> oops, sorry :)
[02:29] <DBO> dooglus, once again I prove a retarded monkey =)
[02:29] <dooglus> DBO: heh.  but you're learning stuff, right?  so that's a good thing :)
[02:29] <FariSS> gnomefreak i got one from the website , but dooglus told me it was junk , any updated one ?
[02:29] <Reon> gnomefreak, thx, did not see the tab popup. Funny thing is I did that from the cli and it isntalled nothing. Now i'm doing it via adept
[02:29] <dooglus> FariSS: I was confused.  I was getting automatix mixed up with easy ubuntu.
[02:29] <gnomefreak> FariSS: no the best one i know of is help.ubuntu.com
[02:29] <dooglus> !automatix
[02:29] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[02:30] <ubotu> hmm... easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[02:30] <Reon> ubotu, thx
[02:30] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Reon
[02:30] <FariSS> ok thx guys
[02:30] <dooglus> ubotu is a bot.  he does't make a lot of sense if you try talking to him in english
[02:30] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, dooglus
[02:30] <dooglus> see?
[02:31] <Reon> dooglus, lol, he should just be called bot then
[02:32] <lovely_iMac> Hi, is there by chance anyone who runs an iMac g3 and can provide a xorg.conf or a modeline for the builtin CRT? It's running fine so far at 1024x768x24 at 75Hz, but the image is just a tick to wide :-( I tried xvidtune, but that didn't help.
[02:37] <FariSS> huh
[02:37] <FariSS> why i cannot listen my MP3
[02:37] <FariSS> :s
[02:37] <bimberi> !mp3
[02:37] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:37] <FariSS> ok thx
[02:38] <bobslaede> usbmount documentation anyone?
[02:38] <Smacky_Wolf> Rawr, can someone possibly tell me how to use GCC3.4 instead of 4?
[02:39] <bobslaede> Smacky_Wolf: i think /usr/bin/gcc is a link to the version in use
[02:39] <bobslaede> Smacky_Wolf: so just change the symlink to the correct version
[02:39] <Smacky_Wolf> Excellent. =3
[02:39] <Smacky_Wolf> Thanks
[02:39] <gnomefreak> its exportCC=3.4 or something liket hat i cant remember off hand you can try man gcc
[02:40] <outlawcrook> ok so i tried to get my display right now i can log into ubuntu now
[02:40] <outlawcrook> what can i do to get back in
[02:40] <outlawcrook> beside a reinstall
[02:40] <Smacky_Wolf> Also, anyone have a clue why sometimes my gnome-terminal jut won't load and needs a restartt?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> outlawcrook: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:41] <gnomefreak> outlawcrook: make sure everything is correct
[02:41] <Samuli^> outlaw crook, or copy xorg.conf.datehere over xorg.conf
[02:41] <tuxmaniac> Guys!
[02:41] <outlawcrook> k thanks i will go and try that
[02:42] <bobslaede> usbmount documentation
[02:43] <liyuan> I have Ubuntu 5.10, is good OS
[02:44] <Netto> !java
[02:44] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:44] <Netto> !javadebs
[02:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Netto -about msg the bot
[02:48] <same3r> did any one know how to extract uha formate ??
[02:48] <sstchur> anyone know how I can get the volume control on my keyboard to work under xfce?  When I used to used Ubuntu (as opposed to XUbuntu) it worked fine.  Anyone know what it is specifically that makes it work?
[02:48] <marcie> I've got a wierd problem...i don't want to have to reload Ubuntu...but it is annoying as hell...my extra screen choices (boxes at the bottom) have disapeared. Anyone know how to get them back (i find it indespensible in getting stuff done)
[02:49] <tuxmaniac> Hi all.. Somehow my brains did not work while installing Dapper. IWhen it asked for whether the system clock is set to UTC I pressed Yes. Now everytime I login it is showing 5.5 hours ahead as my time zone is Asia/Calcutta!!! How do I rectify this problem ?? :((
[02:49] <Smacky_Wolf> bobslaede, sudo rmmod ehci_hcd
[02:49] <marcie> i got a warning saying it had turned off and press this to reload...but it didn't and signing off and in again didn't work
[02:49] <protocol1> i hate when my mother drinks
[02:49] <bobslaede> Smacky_Wolf: nope, did that already, new problem now
[02:49] <mheath> marcie: If you right click on it, do you get a menu?
[02:49] <Smacky_Wolf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUSBStorage?highlight=%28usb%29
[02:49] <protocol1> woops wrong channel
[02:50] <marcie> mheath: right click on what?
[02:50] <mheath> marcie, on the workspace selector.
[02:50] <bobslaede> Smacky_Wolf: not the problem
[02:50] <bobslaede> Smacky_Wolf: usbmount[22542] : /dev/sda1 does not contain a filesystem or disklabel
[02:50] <marcie> Uhm i get a message about panels...is that the right word for them?
[02:50] <Smacky_Wolf> ahhh
[02:50] <ompaul> tuxmaniac, go to the clock on the top right hand side of the screen, and right click and adjust
[02:50] <Smacky_Wolf> It sounds as if your disk is messed.
[02:50] <bobslaede> Smacky_Wolf: it aint
[02:50] <marcie> such as "add to panel"
[02:51] <marcie> There are no actual squares left there to click on
[02:51] <bobslaede> Smacky_Wolf: i can mount it manually, but i dont want to
[02:51] <ompaul> tuxmaniac, be aware if you dual boot then that other thing does not know how to deal with time correctly it is in fact as we always suspected broken
[02:51] <bobslaede> Smacky_Wolf: the problem is that, usbmount looks for /sbin/udev_volume_id which is now /sbin/vol_id
[02:51] <Smacky_Wolf> Did you do an expert install, bobslaede ?
[02:51] <graveson> what is gnomefiles website all about and is it supported to install any software from there
[02:52] <bobslaede> Smacky_Wolf: nope, just regular install, server
[02:52] <crazy_penguin> could someone tell the name of a command used to take a screen shot from a terminal window under gnome
[02:52] <tarzeau> crazy_penguin: scrot peng.png
[02:52] <bbrazil> crazy_penguin: xwd
[02:52] <crazy_penguin> thx guys
[02:52] <bobslaede> Smacky_Wolf: i symlinked vol_id to udev_volume_id, but they dont behave the same way
[02:52] <marcie> i do get icons...is workspace switcher the right one? It looks a bit different but...it could be
[02:52] <Smacky_Wolf> bobslaede, sorry, but I'm till a nublet at this.
[02:52] <tuxmaniac> ompaul: Heh.. I did that.. But the next time I login it is reverting back to that +5.5
[02:52] <bobslaede> Smacky_Wolf: thanks tho
[02:53] <ompaul> tuxmaniac, are you using windows?
[02:53] <ompaul> tuxmaniac, on that machine ever?
[02:53] <Smacky_Wolf> np, bobslaede , I try to help when I can =/
[02:53] <bersace> hello
[02:53] <bersace> i'm trying to create a usplash image
[02:53] <bersace> but i got the black screen
[02:53] <tuxmaniac> heh.. 1.5 years back I used!!
[02:53] <tuxmaniac> ompaul: ^^
[02:53] <bersace> how to properly build the .so ?
[02:54] <bersace> Where are bogl errors ?
[02:54] <dooglus> tuxmaniac: edit /etc/default/rcS - change the value of UTC
[02:54] <marcie> ah workspace switcher WORKED
[02:54] <marcie> (didn't look the same)
[02:54] <mwe> bersace: I don't think you should build a .so
[02:54] <ompaul> tuxmaniac, okay well all I can say is that you should save it with that and it should work and use ntpdate, it could be that the battery on the motherboard is gone and is not holding the clock time correctly
[02:54] <dooglus> crazy_penguin: I use this alias:  snap is aliased to `snap=~/Documents/Screenshots/$(date +%Y-%m-%d--%H-%M-%S).png; cd ~/Documents/Screenshots; import -window root $snap; echo $snap; gqview $snap'
[02:55] <dooglus> crazy_penguin: but you can just use the 'import' command if you want
[02:55] <sladen> bersace: did you rebuild your  initramfs?
[02:55] <bersace> yes
[02:55] <crazy_penguin> thx dooglus
[02:55] <marcie> when i upgraded thunderbird it lost it's symbolic link...would reworking the installation front to end (and deleted files it put in) help...i need to start it from the command line (part of what is causing problems i think)
[02:55] <bersace> as said in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:56] <dooglus> crazy_penguin: 'import' is a part of 'imagemagick'
[02:56] <T`> for some reason, my xfce started thru gdm has lesser resolution than when i start with startx from login prompty
[02:56] <T`> anyone know why this might happen?
[02:57] <mwe> T`: that's odd
[02:57] <marcie> just putting in the symbolic link in prefered applications doesn't help
[02:57] <T`> mwe, heh yea
[02:57] <mwe> T`: I should be the same
[02:57] <dooglus> T`: what happens if you run 'startxfce4' to start it, instead of 'startx'?
[02:57] <T`> its definetely not
[02:57] <T`> ok
[02:58] <dooglus> T`: actually, what do you see if you run:    grep '^Exec=' /usr/share/xsessions/xfce4.desktop
[02:58] <T`> dooglus, yes, when i do startxfce4, i get better resolution
[02:58] <T`> i mean samy as startx
[02:58] <FariSS> i cant find totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[02:58] <T`> gdm somehow screws up things
[02:58] <T`> ok lemme see
[02:58] <FariSS> when i try to install it
[02:58] <marcie> neither could i FariSS...i looked yesterday...anybody know where it is?
[02:58] <FariSS> sudo apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[02:58] <FariSS> when i type this
[02:59] <dooglus> !info totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[02:59] <T`> dooglus, yes i see startxfce4 there
[02:59] <FariSS> E: Couldn't find package totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[03:00] <FariSS> !info totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[03:00] <mwe> FariSS: enable universe
[03:00] <FariSS> ubotu Package 'totem-xine-firefox-plugin' does not exist.
[03:00] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FariSS
[03:00] <FariSS>  Package 'totem-xine-firefox-plugin' does not exist.
[03:01] <FariSS> MWE i did
[03:01] <dooglus> FariSS: totem-xine-firefox-plugin is only in dapper (and breezy-backports)
[03:01] <gnomefreak> FariSS: install totem-xine
[03:01] <mwe> FariSS: did you sudo apt-get update afterwards?
[03:01] <marcie> Fariss have you upgraded thunderbird as well?
[03:01] <dooglus> FariSS: I guess you didn't enable breezy-backports, right?
[03:02] <FariSS> dooglus i did all steps that told me DBA
[03:02] <FariSS> :s
[03:02] <FariSS> how to do that ??
[03:02] <FariSS> :s
[03:02] <dooglus> !backports
[03:02] <ubotu> backports is, like, Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:03] <T`> dooglus, mwe, any ideas on my prob?
[03:03] <dooglus> T`: your XFCE4 resolution problem?
[03:03] <siccness> Anyone know how to get menubar back on terminal?
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> how do I restrict ssh server to only listen on eth0, not on both ethernet cards?
[03:04] <dooglus> siccness: right-click, show menubar
[03:04] <siccness> Not there
[03:04] <Samuli^> what dooglus said.
[03:04] <Samuli^> it's there :)
[03:04] <siccness> Bah, it is too.
[03:04] <satlan32> hi
[03:04] <dooglus> siccness: right-click on the vast expanse of space, not on the edges somewhere
[03:04] <siccness> I was clicking up the top (where it has the title)
[03:04] <siccness> Heh, thanks dooglus/Samuli^
[03:04] <Samuli^> siccness, I knew.
[03:05] <satlan32> how do i change the default password for root after new install
[03:05] <bobslaede> allright then, any alternatives to using usbmount to automount my usbdisks? I cant find anything about usbmount anywhere, no documentation
[03:05] <satlan32> and how do i login using root
[03:05] <satlan32> ?
[03:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there? anybody know how to play a movie inside the desktop using mplayer?
[03:05] <Hobbsee> !+root
[03:05] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:05] <dooglus> siccness: the title is put there by the window manager, same as for any other window - that's now really part of the terminal at all, it's just window-manager decoration
[03:05] <siccness> Ahh fair enough
[03:05] <dooglus> Tallia1Kubuntu: like on the wallpaper?
[03:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[03:05] <siccness> Ok, here's a challenge, is it possible to remove the borders? :P
[03:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dooglus: perfectly
[03:05] <siccness> So it's 100% transparent.
[03:06] <cth23> hi
[03:06] <dooglus> siccness: not if you're using GNOME's metacity window manager, I don't think.  but there are other window managers which don't add borders, or only add them on some sides
[03:06] <dooglus> siccness: but then, how would you move the windows around?
[03:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dooglus: any idea?
[03:06] <siccness> dooglus, I just want to be able to make it have the text against my wallpaper
[03:07] <siccness> so it looks geekish in screenshots
[03:07] <dooglus> Tallia1Kubuntu: no, I don't know if it can do that.
[03:07] <siccness> :) So I'll have a look at other window managers
[03:07] <FariSS> how to know if i got  Hoary Hedgehog or Breezy Badger ?
[03:08] <Samuli^> siccness, there's ways with metacity too.
[03:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> siccness: xgl?
[03:08] <dooglus> siccness: oh, I see.  you can tell the terminal to be transparent:  edit -> current profile -> effects -> transparent background -> none
[03:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !xgl
[03:08] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:08] <T`> dooglus, yea
[03:08] <Samuli^> siccnes, search in the ubuntuforums.org
[03:08] <dooglus> siccness: (assuming you're talking about gnome-terminal, that is)
[03:08] <FariSS> how to know if i got  Hoary Hedgehog or Breezy Badger ?
[03:09] <dooglus> FariSS: type "lsb_release -d"
[03:09] <Samuli^> siccness, nevermind. Here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811&highlight=howto+terminal+wallpaper
[03:09] <siccness> Oh, sorry for late response. Cat was jumping on me :|
[03:10] <siccness> Thanks Samuli^ , and you too dooglus.
[03:11] <ferronica> hi guys
[03:11] <ferronica> what is GnomeMeeting???
[03:11] <ferronica> Any one help to find out
[03:11] <ferronica> ubotu: gnomemeeting
[03:11] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica
[03:12] <satlan32> what is the default root password?
[03:12] <ferronica> ubotu: gnome meeting
[03:12] <ubotu> ferronica: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:12] <crazy_penguin> ferronica: it's something similar to netmeeting from windows
[03:12] <njan> satlan32, there is none
[03:12] <fyrestrtr> clear
[03:12] <satlan32> i run "sudo passwd root" and it as for a password
[03:12] <ferronica> OH
[03:12] <njan> ferronica, it's an h.323 compatible videoconferencing and VOIP/IP-Telephony application
[03:12] <Pimpshizzled> dooglus, i have just got my resolutions right
[03:12] <gnomefreak> satlan32: please dont advise people to enable root
[03:12] <satlan32> ok
[03:13] <satlan32> but i need it for my work
[03:13] <njan> satlan32, the root user is disabled in ubuntu by default.
[03:13] <octan> hmm i have not the module in /etc/modules. i have added skip spca5xx to /etc/discover.conf and spca5xx to /etc/hotplug/blacklist . but it still loads, how can i get it blacklisted
[03:13] <njan> satlan32, the recommended method of administration is to use sudo as a regular user.
[03:13] <dooglus> satlan32: sudo is asking for your own password, not roots
[03:13] <Roots> Yeah, I'm not giving you my password satlan32
[03:13] <octan> lol
[03:14] <the_beginner> is that why i can't be root straight off ?
[03:14] <ompaul> !root
[03:14] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:14] <ferronica> crazy_penguin: Do u know any other linux OS like ubuntu which provide free shipping????
[03:14] <satlan32> thanks
[03:14] <ompaul> the_beginner, it is not how ubuntu is made
[03:14] <dgr> http://2enigmatik4u.com/v2/index.php?p=40&u=15019
[03:14] <crazy_penguin> no
[03:14] <crazy_penguin> ferronica: no
[03:14] <dooglus> the_beginner: that's one of the reasons - you don't know root's password.  but even if you did, gdm still wouldn't let you log in to GNOME as root unless you change its config
[03:14] <ferronica> crazy_penguin: what NO!
[03:14] <octan> the_beginner if you wanna be a root. boot a live cd and chroot to your install and run passwd
[03:15] <octan> :) then edit sudousers
[03:15] <dooglus> octan: that's a bit extreme!  'sudo passwd' is all you need to do.
[03:15] <crazy_penguin> ferronica: i don't know other distro that has free shipping
[03:15] <gnomefreak> ferronica: ubuntu is the only linux distro that ships for free
[03:15] <octan> dooglus yea i know :P.
[03:15] <ompaul> the_beginner, tell you what read that page that was on the screen, then choose
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ferronica: thats one of the things that sets ubuntu from the rest
[03:16] <ferronica> gnomefreak: ok, DO u help me to explian what is KDE, Gnome all these stuffff
[03:16] <ompaul> the_beginner,  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  that page
[03:16] <octan> however does anyone know how to blacklist a module from loading?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ferronica: gnome and kde are desktop enviornments
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ferronica: i dont understand what about them you want to know
[03:17] <ferronica> gnomefreak: Deskenvironment means graphics interface???
[03:17] <ompaul> octan, I have not looked in this:  /usr/share/pmi/blacklist-modules.sh
[03:17] <gnomefreak> ferronica: yes
[03:17] <gnomefreak> ferronica: think of it as same things as windows desktop
[03:17] <ferronica> gnomefreak: what is KDE, i never heared abot it
[03:18] <gnomefreak> same concept atleast
[03:18] <andel7> asfkj
[03:18] <gnomefreak> KDE stands for K-desktop enviornment
[03:18] <Smacky_Wolf> Has anyone here ever tried Cedega with 64bit Ubuntu?
[03:18] <Smacky_Wolf> !kde
[03:18] <ubotu> kde is probably A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:18] <dooglus> the K used to stand for 'Kool', believe it or not :)
[03:19] <andel7> exit
[03:19] <mwe> dooglus: I don' think the k has an official meaning
[03:19] <gnomefreak> mwe: it no longer does correct
[03:19] <dooglus> mwe: see the original announcement of the project: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announcement.php
[03:20] <mwe> dooglus: I don't think that still applies. I could be wrong though
[03:21] <waddletron2k> Is win32codecs installable from Synaptic?
[03:21] <Smacky_Wolf> It's like xwin. What does the x mean?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell waddletron2k about w32codecs
[03:21] <waddletron2k> thanks :)
[03:21] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:21] <gnomefreak> waddletron2k: its a simple wget command
[03:22] <gnomefreak> than dpkg -i
[03:22] <waddletron2k> awesome
[03:22] <waddletron2k> cal, I got it :)
[03:22] <cal> oh?  :)
[03:22] <waddletron2k> si ;-)
[03:24] <Mitsurugi> I can't get my network card and modem to work at the same time
[03:24] <octan> ompaul i looked at that script
[03:25] <octan> if [ ! -d $BLACKLISTDIR ]  BLACKLISTDIR  is not defined
[03:25] <Mazingaro> Mitsurugi: same irq for modem and network card
[03:25] <Mitsurugi> how can I change it?
[03:25] <Minty> newbie question, am trying to see my reseau, but the 'keyring' am running french version so not sur whats it called keeps asking me for a password, but whatever i type in doent work, any ideas ??
[03:25] <dooglus> octan: "! -d" means "is not an existing directory"
[03:25] <Mitsurugi> modem is serial and NIC is PCI if that helps any
 right :)
[03:26] <Mazingaro> Mitsurugi: in fact, maybe network card has got same irq of serial port
[03:26] <Mitsurugi> how do i change that?
[03:26] <Mazingaro> from BIOS
[03:26] <Mitsurugi> oh boy
[03:26] <Mitsurugi> alright
[03:27] <Mitsurugi> do you think using the other serial port might fix it?
[03:27] <Mazingaro> mmmh
[03:27] <dooglus> octan: man bash | grep -A1 -- -d.file
[03:28] <Mazingaro> Mitsurugi: no
[03:28] <octan> dooglus no need
[03:28] <Mitsurugi> here a noobie question: whats a IRQ ?
[03:28] <Mazingaro> try to remove all settings in the reserve IRQ BIOS
[03:28] <njan> Mitsurugi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRQ
[03:28] <Mazingaro> Mitsurugi: Interrupt ReQuest
[03:29] <dooglus> what a rubbish acronym!
[03:30] <Mazingaro> Mitsurugi: means that a peripheral may ask to the cpu to achieve some other work, while it was doing other
[03:30] <Mazingaro> cpu suspends other works and "serve" the IRQ request
[03:30] <Mitsurugi> I see
[03:30] <Mazingaro> after that it returns to normal tasks
[03:31] <Mitsurugi> will the BIOs have other IRQs ready or do i have to do it myself?
[03:31] <FeestBijtje> Finaly after 2 hours non-stop working!!! its complete now its chill out and F*CK ive forgot the music
[03:31] <Mazingaro> Mitsurugi: maybe BIOS force some IRQ to be assigned to particular device, such as serial port or pci slots
[03:32] <Mazingaro> linux kernel could remap them or could not (on some mb)
[03:39] <dooglus> I just 'apt-get update'd my debian partition and instead of downloading the whole Package and Release files, it downloaded a bunch of tiny 'pdiff' files, making it much quicker.  Nice feature, and one I guess we'll be seeing in the Eft pretty soon?
[03:41] <Pimpshizzled> googlus, does linux only have 1 sound channel?
[03:42] <MenZa> Pimpshizzled: No.
[03:42] <g0dchild> is there a way to start knemo when gnome starts up?
[03:43] <MenZa> g0dchild: System -> Preferences -> Session -> Startup
[03:43] <MenZa> Add your applications there
[03:43] <tarzeau> g0dchild: you mean, why does gnome start up so slowly?
[03:43] <Pimpshizzled> MenZa, i only seem to get one sound channel, only one thing playing at a time, despite my sound drivers in place
[03:43] <g0dchild> MenZa, yeah- i know about sessions- but as it happens, knemo is a service and i cant run it from Cmd line like other apps
[03:43] <FariSS> dooglus i dont know how to write some caracters needed on some linux commands with my laptop , is there a place for commands shortcut or tabs ??
[03:44] <Smacky_Wolf> I WIN! MY VIDEO NOW WORKS CORRECTLY! :D
[03:44] <g0dchild> tarzeau, no- all i need is a network usage/stats monitor
[03:44] <tarzeau> g0dchild: like iptraf?
[03:44] <tarzeau> g0dchild: you could start one using @reboot in your cron, inside screen
[03:44] <tarzeau> g0dchild: you'd need to configure sudo for this
[03:45] <FariSS> anyone know how to write some caracters needed on some linux commands with my laptop , is there a place for commands shortcut or tabs ??
[03:45] <FariSS> ???
[03:45] <FariSS> ):
[03:45] <cal> In attempting to install Windows Codecs as following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba  , i get the following error msg http://rafb.net/paste/results/yCtFpy86.html .  any workaround?
[03:45] <syahir> anyone can help me?I have problem with audio/sound
[03:45] <dooglus> FariSS: 'tabs'?
[03:45] <Mitsurugi> what kind of sound card is it?
[03:45] <g0dchild> i wouldnt know- didnt try that yet...and cron is kinda unfamiliar territory although I am willing to try if i can find any help/guide about it on a website
[03:45] <MenZa> Pimpshizzled: Umm... ALSA/ESD?
[03:45] <minimec> Hi folks. I really need your help with dpkg. Yesterday I installed the mldonkey-server package which failed because of a dpkg --configure problem. Now everytime I use apt-get, dpkg or aptitude, first I have that dpkg --configure mldonkey-server sequence again, wich obviously fails again. How can remove that sequence, or how can I remove or purge that broken package. I tell you.. I tried a lot...
[03:46] <Smacky_Wolf> !nforce
[03:46] <ubotu> Smacky_Wolf: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:46] <spikeb> minimec: apt-get -f install
[03:46] <FariSS> dooglus yes on keyboard , for example writing some commands, i cant find the caracters on my keyboard
[03:46] <syahir> anyone can help me?I have problem with audio/sound
[03:46] <Pimpshizzled> MenZa, im not sure mate, first day on ubuntu
[03:47] <MenZa> Ah, right--welcome.-
[03:47] <MenZa> I had a similar problem with Gaim
[03:47] <dooglus> FariSS: is 'gok' any use?
[03:47] <MenZa> Pimpshizzled: I'll look it up on Malone, wait a second
[03:47] <FariSS> dooglus whats that ?
[03:47] <syahir> anyone can help me?I have problem with audio/sound
[03:47] <minimec> spikeb: Tried that too. No fucking way... I am getting pissed...
[03:47] <cal> In attempting to install Windows Codecs as following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba  , i get the following error msg http://rafb.net/paste/results/yCtFpy86.html .  any workaround?
[03:48] <CarlFK> how do I install a dapper only package (http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/git-core) on a breezy box?
[03:48] <dooglus> FariSS: it's the GNOME Onscreen Keyboard
[03:48] <syahir> anyone can help me?I have problem with audio/sound
[03:48] <FariSS> dooglus i mean special caracters needed on some commands , i dont know how to write them from my keyboard
[03:49] <MenZa> Umm, it was deleted, Pimpshizzled.
[03:49] <minimec> CarlFK: Go to packages.ubuntu.com, download the package you want, then sudo dpkg -i your-package.
[03:49] <Unenvarjo> syah, we read you all right. What seems to be the problem?
[03:49] <FariSS> ):
[03:49] <dooglus> FariSS: what kind of special characters?  like '|' and '`'?
[03:49] <FariSS> yes
[03:49] <FariSS> :))
[03:49] <CarlFK> minimec: thanks
[03:49] <FariSS> the first
[03:49] <MenZa> I don't remember how it was fixed, but you need to set all your applications to play EITHER ALSA or ESD.
[03:49] <minimec> CarlFK: np
[03:49] <FariSS> '|'
[03:49] <dooglus> FariSS: I'm wondering if 'gok' would display a 'proper' keyboard onscreen so you can click on the '|' key with your mouse.
[03:49] <FariSS> :s
[03:49] <syahir> the sound doesn't exist
[03:50] <dooglus> FariSS: or, you could save that '|' you just copied into a file.
[03:50] <FariSS> dooglus no its not
[03:50] <syahir> maybe problem with motherboard
[03:50] <FariSS> lol
[03:50] <Unenvarjo> syah, integrated sound card?
[03:50] <syahir> or hardware support
[03:50] <FariSS> dooglus how y write it ?
[03:50] <FariSS> dooglus using wich tabs ?
[03:50] <dooglus> FariSS: or put it into your .bashrc, like:   pipe='|'
[03:50] <syahir> integrated sound card?
[03:50] <syahir> i'm not using sound card
[03:51] <xct> Need help abt XGL install
[03:51] <FariSS> ok dooglus thx
[03:51] <dooglus> FariSS: then you can type $pipe instead of '|'
[03:51] <Unenvarjo> well, I'm off towards home ->
[03:51] <FariSS> dooglus thx bro
[03:51] <FariSS> :))
[03:51] <hostix> Hey
[03:51] <CarlFK> minimec: I found the source, git-core_1.1.3.orig.tar.gz - is there a .deb somewhere?
[03:52] <xct> need source XGL !
[03:52] <Smacky_Wolf> Hrm, I'm also having a sound problem. The correct drivers are now compiled (it's a builtin NFORCE chip) yet it still won't work
[03:52] <minimec> spikeb: CarlFK You should have a deb for all plattforms supported by Ubuntu dapper
[03:52] <paco_> comment sa marche linux
[03:52] <hostix> !google git-core filetype:deb
[03:52] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hostix
[03:53] <emile> when i enable xgl (wiki) i get an error message i915 kernel module version is 1.1.0 version 1.4 or greater is needed and no xgl. Can someone help me please?
[03:53] <FariSS> dooglus still now support for webcam with msn ??
[03:53] <paco_> who put sound with linux
[03:54] <dooglus> FariSS: I heard that 'amsn' supports webcam, but didn't try it.
[03:54] <FariSS> dooglus where to get it ?
[03:54] <minimec> CarlFK: This is the i386 deb http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fg%2Fgit-core%2Fgit-core_1.1.3-1ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=3637be97bea6af57f6f58e9318a7c0ee&arch=i386&type=main
[03:54] <dooglus> !info amsn
[03:54] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[03:54] <tuxmaniac> !ubuntuguide
[03:54] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[03:54] <Minty> "The application 'File manager' (/usr/bin/nautilus) wants access
[03:54] <Minty> to the default keyring, but it is locked, anyone tell me how to get rid of this problem ??
[03:55] <dooglus> FariSS: enable universe, and search for 'amsn' in synaptic (the same way you get any of the other ubuntu packages)
[03:55] <CarlFK> minimec: where did you find that?
[03:55] <Reon> I need help. having problems installing VMWare Server. Pastebin-  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14121
[03:55] <tuxmaniac> ubotu: !!!
[03:55] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tuxmaniac
[03:55] <kane__> hi everybody...
[03:55] <Smacky_Wolf> Anyone have experiance using nforce sound?
[03:55] <FariSS> dooglus ok thx
[03:55] <minimec> CarlFK: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/git-core
[03:56] <dooglus> is there a command which will tell me how 'big' each package I've got installed is?  I'm running out of space on / and would like to see which packages are taking the most space so I can consider removing them.
[03:56] <Boglizk> I recently copied movies from my Win (NTFS) Partition to my Linux one, now the picture doesn't work when played on Windows.
[03:56] <hostix> i am trying to get sound support but in every attempt i have failed, my sound card is a Realtek built in a Asus P51RD-W motherboard i have gotten a driver from asus but when i try compile then i get http://pastebin.com/720609 if you need more info please ask
[03:57] <EnUm> hello again.wine doesn't work with my ubuntu.is there any oter progam to run win 2000 applications on ubuntu?
[03:57] <CarlFK> minimec: oh!  never noticed that the arch was a link - thanks
[03:57] <minimec> CarlFK: ;)
[03:57] <dooglus> !cedega
[03:58] <_JuDgEn_> gaah why cant i get opengl to work!!! im going insane
[03:58] <kane__> EnUm, yes try cross office... however it's not free... :(
[03:58] <EnUm> cross office
[03:58] <Smacky_Wolf> hostix, asus just give you ALSA
[03:58] <EnUm> ok
[03:58] <FariSS> dooglus done ;)
[03:58] <Smacky_Wolf> hostix, the actual drivers are hidden somewhere else
[03:58] <FariSS> dooglus but where to find camera driver :s
[03:59] <kane__> EnUm, sorry I meant crossOver
[03:59] <Smacky_Wolf> Ubuntu comes pre-installed with a newer alsa, at least than they gave me ( I have an AXN something) hostix
[03:59] <lsuactiafner> whats the command to make dpkg reconfigure xorg, and the apt-get to reinstall xorg?
[03:59] <EnUm> are there any other "free" available progams
[03:59] <EnUm> ?
[04:00] <alainlucas> how can I download the image 0960.gif which is at http://www.kangxizidian.com/kangxi/ using wget ? (It's readable with firefox, but not downloadable with "wget http://www.kangxizidian.com/kangxi/0960.gif")
[04:00] <kane__> EnUm, I don't know of anything else... maybe cedega... but it's for games...
[04:00] <byLeal> opengl is not working in dapper with i810.
[04:00] <kane__> EnUm, what exactly do you need to run?
[04:00] <EnUm> hmm...it is an progam,not a game
[04:00] <EnUm> lesshaste:didn't u had an idea?
[04:01] <hostix> Smacky_Wolf, what can i do?
[04:01] <hostix> to get sound
[04:01] <kane__> EnUm, isn't there an equivalent in ubuntu...??
[04:01] <EnUm> no
[04:01] <lsuactiafner> how do force apt-get to reinstall xorg-common?
[04:01] <kane__> EnUm, what is the name of this program??
[04:01] <Smacky_Wolf> hostix, what was your device and chipset once more?
[04:01] <EnUm> GK1 it is an university progam,a special one
[04:02] <gnomefreak> lsuactiafner: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg-common
[04:02] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[04:02] <kane__> EnUm, oh, I see...
[04:02] <hostix> Realtek ALC861 on ASUS P5RD1-V
[04:02] <martin> #ubuntu-es
[04:02] <Smacky_Wolf> hostix, thanks, give me a sec
[04:03] <archville> One question.
[04:03] <Infernall-Work> hey guys, im trying to get a pcmcia wifi adapter to work, but it is not being detected.
[04:03] <njal> anyone know anything about ndiswrapper?
[04:03] <archville> Any way to enable direct rendering (dri) under XGL/Compiz for a nvidia card ?
[04:03] <gnomefreak> njal: ask your question and if someone knows they will answer you
[04:03] <archville> It runs smooth but i can't play opengl games.
[04:03] <gnomefreak> archville: see #ubuntu-xgl please
[04:03] <Infernall-Work> This card does not show up at all with lspci, and i've restarted pcmcia too.  The LED on the wifi card is on.
[04:04] <FariSS> dooglus is it normal that my police be small , when i open a text or pdf file , i cannot read the writed text its bad quality view:s
[04:04] <njal> i have a d-link dwl-g122 D1 usb network adaptor i need to get working
[04:04] <archville> gnomefreak, i tried yesterday, but didn't got any answers.
[04:05] <gnomefreak> archville: im sorry but that channel has the people that deal with it this channel is hoary/breezy support
[04:06] <FariSS> is it normal that my police be small , when i open a text or pdf file , i cannot read the writed text its bad quality view:s
[04:06] <FariSS> :s
[04:06] <archville> gnomefreak, ok, thank you anyway. :)
[04:06] <dooglus> FariSS: you have small police?
[04:06] <benoy> hi all, was wondering if firefox works well for everyone here in ubuntu?
[04:06] <Minty> is there a way not to have nautilus keyring ask for passwords, without uninstalling it ??
[04:06] <dooglus> FariSS: ours are generally quite chubby
[04:06] <archville> For me works perfectly.
[04:06] <archville> (firefox)
[04:07] <Smacky_Wolf> hostix, i have no idea =.
[04:07] <benoy> I am using firefox but on certain websites like www.toyota.com, I can't see some of the pictures
[04:07] <archville> I've installed the mozilla.org version.
[04:07] <hostix> Smacky_Wolf, okay, thanks anyway
[04:07] <benoy> Did you have to install anything else seprately?
[04:07] <Smacky_Wolf> hostix, look on your drivers CD. Asus are nice to Linux people. I had the sound drivers lumped in with the NIC drivers
[04:07] <FariSS> dooglus nothing to do to resolve that ?
[04:07] <dooglus> FariSS: I think you might have the wrong word there.  "police" are the angry men in uniform who go around hitting people with sticks.
[04:08] <archville> benoy, do you have flash plugin installed ?
[04:08] <archville> toyota site needs it.
[04:08] <benoy> I think so
[04:08] <benoy> is there a way to check?
[04:08] <hostix> Smacky_Wolf, k
[04:08] <Smacky_Wolf> hostix, it may be called NFORCE or some such
[04:09] <Smacky_Wolf> Which comes to MY problem. I have the correct drivers compiled and installed, yet my soundcard is till not found. Anyone have any ideas? It's part of an NVIDIA chipsetted board
[04:09] <nox-Hand> Hey
[04:10] <strafe> in my /usr/src/ directory i have 2 directories linux-headers-2.6.12-10 and linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386, do i need both of these and if not how do i find out the directory that is not being used?
[04:10] <archville> benoy, check it with other flash sites.
[04:10] <Pimpshizzled> smacky, mines a Nforce board too
[04:10] <Pimpshizzled> i got the graphics, network, everything spot on
[04:10] <Pimpshizzled> other than the sound now
[04:10] <Pimpshizzled> lol
[04:10] <minimec> Sorry but I have to ask you again. I have a half-configured package (mldonkey-server) on dapper. I want to remove that package. Whatever I try... that fails. Please... please... what force option of dpkg can I use to purge this fucking donkey package.
[04:10] <martin> #ubuntu-es
[04:10] <nox-Hand> How would I go about changing the boot screen thing? (( the Ubuntu image when I boot ))  - okay, admitted, I am on Kubuntu, but it works the same, so meh. How would I change that to an own image or something?
[04:10] <njal> D-Link DWL-G122 D1 Ndiswrapper?
[04:11] <Smacky_Wolf> Pimpshizzled, XD It sucks. I was so proud when I first saw the Nvidia logo
[04:11] <strafe> uname -a shows 2.6.12-10-386
[04:11] <Smacky_Wolf> Pimpshizzled, are you a 64bit man, too?
[04:11] <Pimpshizzled> Smacky_Wolf, Lol nah, im 32bit :o i wouldnt even know where to start with 64, i only started with ubuntu literally today
[04:11] <benoy> I just tried to reinstall the flash plugin and I get the following error:        Reading package lists... Done
[04:11] <benoy> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:11] <benoy> flashplayer-mozilla is already the newest version.
[04:11] <benoy> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:11] <benoy> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://koti.mbnet.fi breezy/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/koti.mbnet.fi_%7eots_ubuntu_breezy_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:11] <benoy> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://theli.free.fr ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/theli.free.fr_packages_breezy_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:12] <benoy> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[04:12] <Smacky_Wolf> !pastebin
[04:12] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[04:12] <gavcos> minimec, apt-get remove --purge mldonkey-server
[04:12] <Pimpshizzled> ty smacky ;)
[04:12] <gnomefreak> benoy: no pasting
[04:12] <benoy> oh, sorry
[04:12] <benoy> I did not know
[04:12] <Smacky_Wolf> Pimpshizzled, you had an easier time than me XD 64bit Ubuntu isn't quite as ready as 32 XD
[04:12] <dooglus> lesshaste: check out 'html2text'
[04:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell benoy -about pastebin
[04:12] <lsuactiafner> how do i enable xinerama, or something similar, with ATI?
[04:12] <dooglus> !info html2text
[04:12] <ubotu> html2text: (An advanced HTML to text converter), section web, is optional. Version: 1.3.2a-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 92 kB, Installed size: 304 kB
[04:13] <lsuactiafner> i have one LCD and one CRT
[04:13] <lsuactiafner> want to use both screens as part of a desktop as in windows
[04:13] <njal> does anyone know how to use NDiswrapper? As i seem to have not gotten it working
[04:13] <gnomefreak> !ndiswrapper
[04:13] <Pimpshizzled> Smacky_Wolf, trust me :P i still dont know what im doing, i dont even know how to set XMMS as my default mp3 player
[04:13] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[04:13] <minimec> gavcos: That was the first thing I tried, as you can imageine. It is not so easy man ;)
[04:13] <gnomefreak> njal: go there ^^^
[04:13] <njal> gnomefreak: thanks
[04:14] <Smacky_Wolf> Pimpshizzled, heh, I'm still a n00b, by all standards. I just play a lot, and sometimes things work
[04:14] <lsuactiafner> how would i limit the speed @ which apt-get downloads?
[04:14] <gavcos> minimec, have you tried to run apt-get with the -f (fix-broken) option?
[04:14] <benoy> Does anyone know where I can fine the latest sources.list file for breezy?
[04:14] <gnomefreak> Smacky_Wolf: best way to learn is to play with it till it breaks
[04:14] <gnomefreak> !repos
[04:14] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:14] <lsuactiafner> !ati
[04:14] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:14] <Pimpshizzled> Smacky_Wolf, how long you been using ubuntu?
[04:15] <Smacky_Wolf> gnomefreak, I can't break Ubuntu very easily. At least when I have I have fixed it
[04:15] <Smacky_Wolf> Pimpshizzled, about 6 months
[04:15] <roob> Hello! I got one question: if I install the current version of Ubuntu, can I easily upgrade when the new release comes out in June?
[04:15] <lsuactiafner> roob : yeh.
[04:15] <gnomefreak> roob: yes
[04:15] <spikeb> yup roob
[04:15] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[04:15] <protocol1> does anyone know why my mplayer plugin is choppy on some streams
[04:15] <Smacky_Wolf> gnomefreak,  but you fix it without a reinstall, right?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> !+upgrade
[04:15] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[04:16] <gnomefreak> Smacky_Wolf: yes
[04:16] <roob> spike: (and others). Cool. Something like apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:16] <Smacky_Wolf> gnomefreak, exactly
[04:16] <Smacky_Wolf> =3
[04:16] <Pimpshizzled> Smacky_wolf, hehe, not a quick learning curve this linux business tho is it?, i figured windows out in 10 minutes when i was 12
[04:16] <minimec> gavcos: Jep. The problem is the fallowing. There is an error in the config file of the package. So the package can't be configured.
[04:16] <protocol1> and is there an easy way to fix it?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> Smacky_Wolf: depending on whats wrong and how far the devel version is along
[04:16] <roob> Thanks alot, my upgrade questions have been answered :)
[04:17] <Smacky_Wolf> Pimpshizzled, sometimes it's hard, often you are having the same problems as a lot of others *points at this chat*
[04:17] <gnomefreak> brb
[04:17] <[Spooky] > i need a ftpd for backups on my box any ideas on any easy one ?
[04:17] <archville> proftpd
[04:18] <gavcos> minimec, try to rename the file
[04:18] <jpbotelho> u send it for a linux or a windows box?
[04:18] <archville> just apt-get install proftpd
[04:18] <archville> and edit /etc/proftpd.conf
[04:18] <ferronica> any one here who know what is GTK??
[04:18] <minimec> gavcos: Where do I find that config-fiel?
[04:18] <jpbotelho> can use scp too if u send the backup to a lnx box
[04:18] <minimec> gavcos: file ;)
[04:19] <ferronica> or who is interested in designing new GUI
[04:19] <Pimpshizzled> Smacky_Wolf, there any nice programs you could suggest to bling my desktop up now, make it looks real smart, its still basic right now
[04:19] <gavcos> minimec: can you tell me the exact error message you're getting?
[04:19] <lsuactiafner> how do i limited the speed at which apt-get downloads?
[04:20] <Smacky_Wolf> Pimpshizzled, what sort of stuff would you be after?
[04:20] <ferronica> or who is interested in designing new GUI in ubuntu
[04:20] <njan> lsuactiafner, QoS?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> ferronica: ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:21] <tombs> hi all
[04:21] <ferronica> gnomefreak: sorry :l
[04:21] <gnomefreak> hi tombs
[04:21] <minimec> gavcos: /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1) Not helpfull at all. But before it sais mlnetinstall unknown option --f
[04:21] <ferronica> gnomefreak: Hey can u tell me how to remove temporary internet file from ubuntu
[04:21] <gnomefreak> ferronica: sudo apt-get autoclean
[04:22] <gnomefreak> ferronica: and you have to delete the one from ff in ff
[04:22] <benoy> exit
[04:22] <ferronica> gnomefreak: Ok, or any other stuff to clean my ubuntu from useless stuffs
[04:22] <lsuactiafner> njan : no thats too complicated
[04:22] <gnomefreak> ferronica: that command should do it
[04:22] <julia1> does anyone know an icq client which supports the xstatus?
[04:23] <lsuactiafner> i dont want to figure qos out
[04:23] <gavcos> minimec: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure mldonkey-server?
[04:23] <lsuactiafner> unless you have a script wich actually works
[04:23] <dooglus> njan: how do you tune QoS settings?
[04:23] <ferronica> gnomefreak: Ok, i wanna to remove all adware, malware etc
[04:23] <dooglus> !qos
[04:23] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dooglus
[04:23] <ferronica> gnomefreak:
[04:23] <minimec> gavcos: ;) As I said. I tried almost everything.
[04:23] <dooglus> !QoS
[04:23] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dooglus
[04:23] <gnomefreak> 'ferryou dont have any adware or malware
[04:23] <ferronica> gnomefreak: To keep my ubuntu CLEAN
[04:24] <Pimpshizzled> Smacky_Wolf, just a few more themes and such, get it looking different, maybe some transparent windows
[04:24] <gnomefreak> ferronica: ^^^
[04:24] <Smacky_Wolf> Pimpshizzled, one moment
[04:24] <ferronica> gnomefreak: u mean same command will work for all>>>>sudo apt-get autoclean
[04:24] <gnomefreak> ferronica: no i mean you wont get any malware/spyware
[04:25] <gavcos> minimec: how about apt-get install --reinstall ?
[04:25] <FariSS> bye guys
[04:25] <FariSS> and thx for all
[04:25] <FariSS> :)))
[04:25] <ferronica> gnomefreak: thats KOOl :)
[04:26] <ferronica> gnomefreak: Hey what is Kubuntu LOL
[04:26] <minimec> gavcos: That wouldn't help (I tried it), because there is an bug in the package (dapper beta ;) )
[04:26] <ferronica> gnomefreak: and eubuntu???
[04:26] <Smacky_Wolf> Pimpshizzled, http://art.gnome.org/ and then you can just drag/drop them to the Theme manager (under "System")
[04:26] <lsuactiafner> how can i see the links of the packages i need to download? i want to wget it to limit the download speed
[04:27] <gnomefreak> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde and not sure what eubuntu is unless you mean edubuntu and that is a bunch of educational packages
[04:27] <pasquale> ciaooo
[04:27] <Pimpshizzled> Smacky_Wolf, cheers dude, ill look though em now
[04:27] <muhammad_azman> hem...
[04:27] <muhammad_azman> still have problems on dns..
[04:28] <_JuDgEn_> What is the name of the package for opengl 2.0?
[04:28] <Smacky_Wolf> Always happy to help if I can.
[04:28] <dooglus> minimec: what's the error in the config file exactly?
[04:28] <Ademan> anyone familiar with vsftpd?
[04:28] <minimec> dooglus: mom
[04:29] <dooglus> minimec: mine?  or yours?
[04:29] <Grout58> Ademan: kind of
[04:29] <minimec> dooglus: One moment please. sorry
[04:29] <dooglus> minimec: I'm installing it now on dapper.  hopefully I'll get the same error as you.
[04:29] <Ademan> Grout58: I'm trying to configure it to allow local users to connect (done that) but when they do they seem to have 0 priv, any idea how to configure it to give them priv?
[04:31] <nox-Hand> Anyone?
[04:31] <r0xoR> yeh, art.gnome.org rulez
[04:32] <r0xoR> _JuDgEn_, try synaptic search
[04:32] <r0xoR> _JuDgEn_, or just start typing alphanumeric characters while you've got an item in the list selected and it'll start an automatch for whatever you type
[04:32] <tatters> to give  write permission in apache for a web application  is chown -R apache /var/www/html/  the best way to do this or a wrong way?
[04:33] <_JuDgEn_> r0xoR:  have done so, but no luck. I have installed mesa, glut, libgl and most other libs i can find. Still i only have mesa as rederer
[04:33] <r0xoR> tatters, uhhh, that sounds like a better question for #apache
[04:33] <r0xoR> tatters, your webroot should be set up with the proper permissions (at least i would hope so)
[04:33] <sasou> salut tout le monde!!!
[04:33] <spikeb> nap time
[04:34] <tatters> I got user apache and group root as file permission for the html folder#
[04:34] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <r0xoR> tatters, webroot is supposed to be owned by root
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <NoUse> !ops
[04:35] <r0xoR> tatters, but it's perfectly fine to change the group
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <Hobbsee> sasou: english only
[04:35] <NoUse> sasou stop it
[04:35] <sasou> ya quelqu'un?
[04:35] <Hobbsee> ban sasou
[04:35] <r0xoR> bye bye
[04:36] <NoUse> thanks Hobbsee
[04:36] <Hobbsee> does anyone have a clue what language that is?
[04:37] <r0xoR> french? spanish?
[04:37] <Hobbsee> i've got no idea....doesnt look french...
[04:37] <Hobbsee> doenst seem like a common language, otherwise someone would have picked it up
[04:37] <r0xoR> well... "salut, tuout le monde" is certainly french
[04:37] <tatters> So I would  chown -R root apache /var/ww/html/ set root as owner and allow apache write permissions?
[04:38] <r0xoR> Hobbsee, heheh, no it's french
[04:38] <Hobbsee> r0xoR: ah okay...
[04:38] <NoUse> Hobbsee his IP is coming from France, so its probably french
[04:38] <dooglus> minimec: to fix your problem, run this in a terminal:    sudo sed -i -e 's/^$/exit 0/' /var/lib/dpkg/info/mldonkey-server.prerm
[04:38] <jdmpike> typical...
[04:39] <r0xoR> NoUse, do u have geo-ip or something?
[04:39] <NoUse> r0xoR I just googled "IP Location" and clicked on a link
[04:39] <r0xoR> hmm, good idea
[04:41] <Mwafrica> Some one help me with another type of browser
[04:42] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: what type of browser?
[04:42] <minimec> dooglus: Which means?
[04:42] <BanskuZ> Is Dapper stable?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> BanskuZ: no
[04:43] <Hobbsee> BanskuZ: not until june
[04:43] <gnomefreak> BanskuZ: june 1
[04:43] <ferronica> gnomefreak: help me my Nicotine is not working
[04:43] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: do you want a gui browser or a text or both?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> ferronica: good luck ive never used it before
[04:43] <minimec> dooglus: so the error I have is: mlnettinstall: invalid option --f
[04:44] <ferronica> gnomefreak: LOL what u use then
[04:44] <gnomefreak> ferronica: i dont use p2p apps
[04:45] <julia1> does anyone know an icq client which supports the xstatus?
[04:45] <Mwafrica> gonomefreak: my Mozilla Firefox... doesnt show text only images?
[04:45] <ferronica> gnomefreak: then what u use???
[04:45] <Mwafrica> gnomefreak: may u suggest any other browser?
[04:45] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i never buyed audio or video CD's LOL
[04:45] <stpere> how can I rotate my display in Ubuntu?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: what version of ff?
[04:45] <stpere> I'm using latest nvidia drivers
[04:46] <ferronica> gnomefreak: use FF 1.5
[04:46] <ferronica> Mwafrica: FF 1.5 latest
[04:46] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: you can try any number of them one gui browser i like is kazehakase
[04:46] <dooglus> minimec: what command are you running to see that -f error?
[04:47] <Mwafrica> dnomefreak: do u have a sudo command for kazehakase?
[04:47] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: ii also use links2 and opera mozilla and like 5 others
[04:47] <aroc> df
[04:47] <aroc> df
[04:47] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: sudo apt-get install kazehakase
[04:47] <aroc> ola
[04:47] <Mwafrica> gnomefreak... same for opera?
[04:47] <gnomefreak> aroc: stop that please
[04:48] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: nope not that lucky
[04:48] <gnomefreak> !opera
[04:48] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: are you on breezy?
[04:48] <stpere> !nvidia
[04:48] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:48] <gnomefreak> !+opera
[04:48] <ubotu> well, opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for Dapper see http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-241/intel-linux/
[04:48] <aroc> ola
[04:48] <aroc> ola
[04:48] <minimec> dooglus: whenever I use apt-get aptitude or dpkg, the 3 software first try to reconfigure the hanging mldonkey-server configuration 'dpkg --configure mldonkey-server'
[04:48] <jdmpike> is lynx2 much better than lynx?
[04:48] <Reon> Can anybody help with this please!  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1022609
[04:48] <dooglus> minimec: I just raised bug 45022 about a problem with mldonkey-server - is that the same problem you're having?
[04:48] <dooglus> bug 45022
[04:48] <aroc> ola
[04:48] <gnomefreak> aroc: i asked you to stop
[04:49] <aroc> ola
[04:49] <dooglus> there's no bug bot here?  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mldonkey-server/+bug/45022
[04:49] <Mwafrica> gnomefreak: im still in hoary.... i failed to update to breezy
[04:49] <dooglus> minimec: if you just want to remove the package, the sudo command I mentioned will let you do that.
[04:49] <minimec> dooglus: That's it ;)
[04:50] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: i suggest upgrading to breezy its simple and for the most part safe
[04:51] <minimec> dooglus: Ok. Can you tell me, what exactly that command does?
[04:51] <izmaelis> I have a problem. There is a line "//192.168.1.4/stuff /home/izmaelis/stuff smbfs fmask=777,dmask=777,username="izmaelis",password="***" 0 0" in my /etc/fstab file, and that SMB share fails to load on system startup. I must do sudo mount -a from terminal everytime I bootup my system. What couses this problem?
[04:51] <Mwafrica> gnomefreak: I will try again to go breezy... What is vthe sudo comand for opera?
[04:51] <izmaelis> I have a problem. There is a line "//192.168.1.4/stuff /home/izmaelis/stuff smbfs fmask=777,dmask=777,username="izmaelis",password="***" 0 0" in my /etc/fstab file, and that SMB share fails to load on system startup. I must do sudo mount -a from terminal everytime I bootup my system. What couses this problem?
[04:51] <ompaul> Mwafrica,  you should not try to do a two step upgrade
[04:51] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: there isnt one
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ompaul: isnt he on hoary?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> or did i miss read it
[04:52] <ompaul> gnomefreak, sorry I missed the to breezy jump :-/
[04:52] <Mwafrica> ompaul: im in hoary.... Is there one?
[04:52] <gamberetto> 
[04:52] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: you have to download the deb from opera than sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>
[04:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Mwafrica -about opera
[04:53] <ompaul> Mwafrica, its a straight jump to breezy, but as I say to everybody, have a live CD handy, just incase
[04:53] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:53] <gnomefreak> ompaul: have at it im lagging my butt off anyway
[04:54] <Mwafrica> ompaul: i have a live cd..... but the installation one fails to load
[04:54] <Smacky_Wolf> Does anyone have experiance with NFORCE sound? I have the drivers compiled and installed, yet aplay says there is nothing there
[04:54] <Mwafrica> ompaul: problem with a CD ROM i think
[04:54] <ompaul> !tell Mwafrica about verify
[04:54] <gnomefreak> Mwafrica: just change your sources list to point to breezy instead of hoary and sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  but install the desktop package you use first
[04:55] <ompaul> Mwafrica, read that link from the bot to check the media
[04:56] <Mwafrica> ompaul: im using an internet cafe... update my not last
[04:56] <ybuntu> Hello Everybody
[04:56] <h2> when i try to install mysql-server i get this error, which repeats about every 10 seconds -> postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/251830.6338: No such file or directory
[04:56] <dooglus> minimec: it replaces every blank line in the pre-remove script with a command which stops the script, so it doesn't get a chance to fail and stop the remove happening
[04:56] <ybuntu> im trying to install skype
[04:57] <NoUse> !tell ybuntu about skype
[04:57] <gnomefreak> !skype
[04:57] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[04:57] <ybuntu> the following error is occured
[04:57] <ybuntu> kernel/qt_x11_p.h:66:22: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
[04:57] <minimec> dooglus: it sais--- no input files
[04:57] <NoUse> ybuntu use the link ubotu posted
[04:57] <dooglus> ybuntu: add 'deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free' to /etc/apt/sources.list, update, install skype
[04:57] <ybuntu> ok
[04:58] <rseeber> hello, I was just setting up a windows share last night through the System | Administration|Shared Folders - and I was unable to connect to it. I Did know how to change the /etc/samba/smb.conf to add "guest ok, and securty share", but I know a few people that have ubuntu installed that wouldn't. In the up coming release, is there a better way to do this than manually editing a file or having the user install a whole new gui?
[04:58] <dooglus> minimec: to fix your problem, run this in a terminal:    sudo sed -i -e 's/^$/exit 0/' /var/lib/dpkg/info/mldonkey-server.prerm
[04:58] <ompaul> Mwafrica, have a look at this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[04:58] <ybuntu> tank a lot
[04:58] <dooglus> minimec: it's one long line
[04:58] <Mwafrica> hold
[04:58] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[04:58] <gnomefreak> brb
[04:58] <Mwafrica> i dont even have a browser for that...
[04:58] <Mwafrica> i dont even have a browser for that...but im coping it down
[04:59] <minimec> dooglus: I see
[05:00] <selinium> ompaul: maybe that needs to go on a !+1  ?
[05:00] <dooglus> minimec: then just 'sudo apt-get remove mldonkey-server'
[05:00] <h2> when i try to install mysql-server i get this error, which repeats about every 10 seconds -> postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/251830.6338: No such file or directory, any ideas on why this is happenign , or am i doing somethign wrong?
[05:00] <rseeber> well, i'm not using the beta, is there any way to do it in the current version???
[05:00] <luciana> how can I start telnetd I just installed (I know it's insecure but I need it)
[05:01] <luciana> or, more generally, how can I start and stop services in ubuntu,   smthng in the form /foo/bar/bin/start servicename ?
[05:01] <minimec> dooglus: That did not work. F...
[05:02] <dooglus> minimec: what happened?
[05:02] <[ex] hungry-hobo> dooglus: you still up bro? :)
[05:02] <h2> luciana: sudo /etc/init.d/name start   maybe
[05:02] <watson540> dooglus: i finally got upgraded to 'dapper' and got the same error you reported
[05:03] <Stormx2> umount: /media/Win98: device is busy <-- how can I tell what app is using it?
[05:03] <dooglus> [ex] : your nick won't complete in irssi
[05:03] <Smacky_Wolf> Does anyone have experiance with NFORCE sound? I have the drivers compiled and installed, yet aplay says there is nothing there
[05:03] <watson540> dooglus: unforyunately after installing automake 1.7 and making sure libtool was there it still gives me error :(
[05:03] <minimec> dooglus: for 'sudo sed -i ....' I got no message. When I tried to remove the package, I got the same message as before.
[05:03] <dooglus> Stormx2: sudo fuser -c /media/Win98
[05:03] <luciana> h2, I looked there, but there is ssh, but not telnetd I just installed :(
[05:03] <Stormx2> dooglus: /media/Win98:        23161c 23162c <-- now what? o.O
[05:04] <dooglus> minimec: can you pastebin the contents of the /var/lib/dpkg/info/mldonkey-server.prerm file?
[05:04] <h2> luciana: oh ok
[05:04] <dooglus> Stormx2: ps -ef | grep -e 23161 -e 23162
[05:04] <dooglus> Stormx2: you're cd'ed into that directory in a terminal I'll bet
[05:04] <minimec> dooglus: I am just looking at that file too
[05:05] <dooglus> minimec: line 2 should say 'exit 0' now - does it?
[05:06] <Stormx2> dooglus: Nah its a java server, I put a & at the end of it, how do I kill it? That last command gave me this: barney   23162 23161  0 15:49 pts/0    00:00:00 java -Djava.ext.dirs=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/jre/lib/ext runTWOServer
[05:06] <dooglus> Stormx2: kill 23161 23162
[05:06] <minimec> dooglus: Well... it does not. I will change that manually. Well the script just wants to stop mldonley-server.
[05:06] <dooglus> minimec: the script tries to kill it, but it's not running, so the script fails, which stops the remove from happening
[05:07] <Stormx2> Thanks dooglus, I mean uh, God
[05:07] <jke> Hi. I tried to resize my / partition. I booted a live-cd up and used gparted to resize, but the partition was not resized... no error messages :/ are there any alternative ways to do this?
[05:07] <minimec> dooglus: That's waht I guess too. I will change that.
[05:07] <dooglus> Stormx2: you were in that directory when you ran the server, so the server is running in that directory, keeping it 'busy'
[05:07] <watson540> jke: did u make sure to 'apply' your resize?
[05:08] <dooglus> jke: try doing it with 'ntfsresize' - that'll give you an error message
[05:08] <jke> watson540: yeah, i clicked the "apply" button, and waited until the changes on the partition was done
[05:08] <watson540> jke: i would use 'parted' to do it then
[05:08] <jke> dooglus: (just to be sure) even though it is a ext3 fs?
[05:09] <dooglus> jke: heh.  no then!  :)
[05:09] <dooglus> jke: that'll teach me for not reading the whole problem :)
[05:09] <jke> dooglus: okay (why on earth did yopu think i had ntfs at my / partition :D)
[05:09] <jke> watson540: okay, i will take a look at the man pages
[05:09] <dooglus> jke: um...
[05:09] <Stormx2> dooglus: Ah I see, Alright
[05:10] <watson540> jke: it should be pretty self explanatory , i have iused it without man pages before
[05:10] <jke> dooglus: sry, did not read your answer before hitting enter
[05:10] <jke> watson540: well, I prefer to be sure what i do when doing thinks to my /
[05:10] <ubunix> can someone help me with firefox? i installed 1.5.0.3 to home/.firefox and when i double click firefox-bin, nothing happens
[05:11] <watson540> jke: yeh parted is not a program to 'play around' with heh :)
[05:11] <NoUse> !tell ubunix about ff1.5
[05:11] <Carbon_Monoxide> you should run the shell script
[05:11] <Carbon_Monoxide> run sh ./firefox
[05:11] <Stormx2> I gotta boot into windows now ;_;
[05:12] <ubunix> oh, so "run in terminal" doesn't work on that shell script?
[05:12] <floobit> running Dapper F7: after adding
[05:12] <floobit> http://http.us.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
[05:12] <floobit> to my sources.list, I upgraded the libc6  to v. 2.3.6-7.  Apparently, there's a dependency on tzdata 2006c-2, which when installing gives the following error message:
[05:12] <floobit> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/tzdata_2006c-2_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers', which is also in package locales
[05:12] <floobit> this doesn't look like a serious problem (esp because I don't live in africa), is there a workaround?
[05:13] <luciana> what's the name of the superdaemon? how can I restart it?
[05:13] <NoUse> !tell floobit about flood
[05:13] <gnomefreak> floobit: no pasting
[05:13] <minimec> dooglus: You made my day man. ;) Sorry about the time it took, but I had a nice discussion with the #debian people. Using debian sarge myself I am getting more and more amused about the arrogance you can find on #debian
[05:13] <floobit> sorry, don't know either of those things
[05:13] <gnomefreak> floobit: use pastebin please
[05:13] <floobit> sorry
[05:13] <kane__> hi... any GIMP users??? I need advice...
[05:13] <pez> Hi guys, I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 and was wondering what is the best player to watch video steams, video files and dvds? I was think of using G-xine
[05:13] <floobit> what's flood?
[05:13] <kane__> Pez
[05:13] <Smacky_Wolf> Kane I use gimp
[05:13] <NoUse> floobit what you just did
[05:13] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[05:13] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:13] <watson540> minimec: haha, a 'nice chat' in #debian!! ROFL
[05:14] <gnomefreak> ubunix: there you go
[05:14] <dooglus> minimec: I got added to #debian's quote database just now...  16:05 < dpkg> qotd167 is probably <dooglus> asg: the biggest package is linux-image-2.6.16-1-686.  I don't do any image processing, so I think\ it's probably safe to remove that one. <asg> dooglus: that's the kernel
[05:14] <watson540> they're a bunch of flamers
[05:14] <NoUse> floobit you took about 10-15 linutes of text which flooded the screen
[05:14] <floobit> sorry bout that
[05:14] <kane__> Smacky_Wolf, I was wondering if there is an eqivalent of Photoshop's Render Difference clouds?
[05:14] <watson540> i only see 4 lines NoUse :)
[05:14] <minimec> dooglus: ;)
[05:14] <gnomefreak> i see 9
[05:15] <pez> Hi Kane
[05:15] <watson540> my resolution is high i guess.. you gys must be running in 640x480 haha
[05:15] <ompaul> !tell watson540 about resolution
[05:15] <njal> im still having trouble with ndiswrapper after reading the wiki, i have a DLink DWL-G122 D1
[05:15] <minimec> dooglus: Where can I find that quote database?
[05:15] <Kyl1> hi all, looking for GCC, anyone know where?
[05:15] <watson540> thanks i know what resolution is :)
[05:16] <dooglus> minimec: I don't know.  I try not to spend too much time there myself, too
[05:16] <Samuli^> kyl1, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:16] <dooglus> kane__: http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=191
[05:16] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: install build-essential
[05:16] <Kyl1> put that in terminal
[05:16] <Samuli^> aye.
[05:17] <ompaul> !tell Kyl1 about build-essential
[05:17] <nundi> do you know a good music-player in terminal (for mp3)?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:17] <chowells> nundi: mpg123
[05:17] <siccness> or mpg321
[05:18] <ompaul> Kyl1, sudo apt-get install build-essential <<<< that gets gcc if you want to do kernel stuff in 5.10 (breezy) then you should also add to that command gcc-3.4
[05:18] <jke> nundi: I liked mpd, even though it miss some functions
[05:18] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: it has gcc and make and most anything else you would need to compile/build packages
[05:18] <nundi> jke: it works with commands?
[05:18] <derekS> if i post my crontab entry, can someone just make sure i am doing it right?
[05:18] <kane__> dooglus, thanx pal... is this monchromatic or is it color only?
[05:18] <nundi> like play hello.mp3
[05:18] <pez> Do i use MPlayer or G-Xine?
[05:18] <gnomefreak> nundi: iirc mpg123 is a terminal based app
[05:18] <dooglus> kane__: I've no idea, I jfgi'ed it
[05:18] <derekS> if my crontab entry is "0 0 1 * * command" will it happen on the first of every month?
[05:18] <siccness> yeah, it is gnomefreak.
[05:19] <nundi> ok, thanx
[05:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell nundi -about mp3
[05:19] <jke> nundi: mpd is just a music player daemon. you could use the client mpc to do "mpc play hello world.mp3"
[05:19] <Kyl1> how many is using the new beta?
[05:19] <NoUse> watson540 I'm running through an ssh session so it took up my whole screen
[05:19] <kane__> dooglus, ok I'll find out... thanx a milion..
[05:19] <dfgas> i am
[05:19] <ompaul> !dapper
[05:19] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[05:19] <njal> ndiswrapper doesn't have appeared to work on mt DWL-G122 USB adaptor
[05:19] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: ask that in #ubuntu+1
[05:19] <siccness> mpg321 is already installed defautly iirc
[05:19] <Kyl1> now the program is lookin for glib...
[05:19] <nundi> another question: how can i hide the terminal border??
[05:20] <gnomefreak> ompaul: i was gonna ask you to add that to ubotu
[05:20] <siccness> nundi: not really, you need to use xterm
[05:20] <gnomefreak> siccness: i dont think it is
[05:20] <siccness> gnomefreak, hmm, not sure, mine seems to be.
[05:20] <jke> nundi: what WM/DE are you using?
[05:21] <gnomefreak> siccness: no its not installed by default
[05:21] <njal> ndiswrapper doesn't have appeared to work on my DWL-G122 USB adaptor
[05:21] <gnomefreak> siccness: something you installed grabbed it
[05:21] <googler> How to save session when logging out in iceWM ?
[05:21] <njal> i have tried the wiki
[05:21] <Kyl1> any ideas on where to find glib?
[05:21] <floobit> obviously I'm a nube, but is this the correct format for this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14124
[05:21] <relachs> Hello! What is the current Live CD and what Java version does it have?
[05:21] <gnomefreak> !info mpg123
[05:21] <ubotu> mpg123: (MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 0.59r-19 (breezy), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 256 kB
[05:21] <nundi> i use ubuntu/gnome if this is what you want to know
[05:22] <siccness> Hmm, you're right, gnomefreak.
[05:22] <jke> nundi: okaycat help then
[05:22] <Stormx2> floobit: Bummer.
[05:22] <dooglus> minimec: "/msg dpkg qotd" for the quotes database
[05:22] <NoUse> Kyl1 its in synaptic, but its already installed
[05:22] <Stormx2> floobit: What are you trying to install?
[05:22] <ompaul> dooglus, that is really off topic for #ubuntu
[05:22] <gnomefreak> siccness: mp3,mpeg are non-free legally cant be installed by default
[05:22] <Stormx2> Wait
[05:22] <minimec> dooglus: thx
[05:22] <floobit> upgrade libc6
[05:22] <Stormx2> floobit: You said :
[05:22] <jke> Heh, how did i make that strange ","-like char?
[05:22] <dooglus> !info libglib2.0-0
[05:22] <gnomefreak> we have dpkg bot in here?
[05:22] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: (The GLib library of C routines), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 988 kB
[05:23] <floobit> uh, don't understand that character?
[05:23] <siccness> True, gnomefreak.
[05:23] <njal> `
[05:23] <dooglus> Kyl1: see that?  that's glib
[05:23] <siccness> I must have installed it without realising. :|
[05:23] <njal> jke: you mean this one ` ?
[05:23] <dooglus> gnomefreak: not here - but /msg doesn't care what channel he's on
[05:23] <siccness> nundi: For removing the borders, you'll need to install eterm.
[05:23] <siccness> Blah
[05:23] <jke> this one: 
[05:24] <njal> jke: sorry got mistakene
[05:24] <salah> what is the name of the gnome core package? (installing via apt)
[05:24] <jke> njal: no problem
[05:25] <jke> salah ubuntu-desktop
[05:25] <gnomefreak> salah: ubuntu-desktop will install gnome-core and so on
[05:25] <kane__> dooglus, where do I put (extract) the GIMP plugin??
[05:25] <jke> +
[05:25] <jke> sorry
[05:25] <njal> anyone know why NDiswrapper ain't working on my DWL-G122 USB adaptor?
[05:25] <salah> can't find the package...
[05:26] <gnomefreak> salah: all you will be there all day picking and choosing what gnome package you need next to have menu or so on
[05:26] <Jeff1983> i installed nautilus-open-terminal, but i dont see any menu option showing up
[05:26] <gnomefreak> salah: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <gnomefreak> Jeff1983: right click on desktop
[05:26] <Grout58> whats ubuntu desktop?
[05:26] <dooglus> kane__: I don't know, but I would guess /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins; or maybe ~/.gimp-2.2/plug-ins is better
[05:26] <njal> !ubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu-desktop was a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading
[05:26] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <salah> thanks
[05:26] <dooglus> salah: there's a package 'gnome' which will bring in all the GNOME desktop stuff
[05:27] <Kyl1> ok, im gettin this error:   configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[05:27] <salah> dooglus: yeah, I am trying to install as little as possible stuff :)
[05:27] <Jeff1983> gnomefreak - i still dont see any option on there about the terminal
[05:27] <Samuli^> salah, that's gnome-core for you then.
[05:27] <dooglus> salah: you need a ...-dev package - a development package
[05:27] <gnomefreak> Jeff1983: you might have to log out and back in again
[05:28] <Samuli^> and use aptitude when installing if you want to easily remove it later.
[05:28] <NoUse> njal try the drive specified here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#D
[05:28] <Jeff1983> ok. ill try it. thanks.
[05:28] <gnomefreak> brb
[05:28] <salah> yeah, save it for next time, I have installed all now ;)
[05:28] <salah> thanks
[05:28] <Kyl1> any ideas on that error?
[05:29] <dooglus> Kyl1: install libglib1.2-dev and try again
[05:29] <njal> NoUse: thanks, i shall look into that now
[05:29] <salah> Kyl1: you must install a package named libglib1.2-dev
[05:29] <kane__> one more question... is there a shortcut for switching desktops??
[05:29] <dooglus> Kyl1: or libglib2.0-dev - that's possibly better
[05:29] <salah> dooglus was before me ;)
[05:29] <Kyl1> apt-get install libglib1.2-dev   ?
[05:29] <salah> yeah
[05:29] <dooglus> Kyl1: with a 'sudo'
[05:30] <Kyl1> already in sudo mode
[05:30] <Kyl1> couldnt find it.
[05:30] <ompaul> Kyl1, sudo apt-get install libglib1.2-dev<< that exists
[05:31] <Kyl1> heres what i put in:   root@zsn-server:/home/kyle/Desktop/xmms-1.2.10# apt-get install libglib1.2-dev
[05:31] <ompaul> Kyl1, if your not seeing it do sudo apt-get update
[05:31] <Kyl1> and i got this back:   E: Couldn't find package libglib1.2-dev
[05:31] <ompaul> Kyl1, why are you root?
[05:31] <njal> NoUse: however, there are many different drivers and i can't seem to find one matching my USBID
[05:31] <ompaul> Kyl1, shortest road to breaking things
[05:32] <Kyl1> how do i un-root?
[05:32] <dooglus> Kyl1: 'exit'
[05:32] <ompaul> Kyl1, exit
[05:32] <Kyl1> ok
[05:32] <dooglus> Kyl1: which version of ubuntu are you running?  (lsb_release -d)
[05:33] <Kyl1> Description:    Ubuntu (The Dapper Drake Release) Development Branch
[05:33] <dooglus> kane__: does holding control and pressing the arrow keys switch desktops?
[05:33] <gnomefreak> its in main repo
[05:33] <gnomefreak> im betting Kyl1 doesnt have the repos enabled
[05:33] <ompaul> !infol libglib1.2-dev dapper
[05:33] <ubotu> ompaul: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:33] <ompaul> !info libglib1.2-dev dapper
[05:33] <kane777> dooglus, no...
[05:33] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[05:33] <ubotu> libglib1.2-dev: (Development files for GLib library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-10.1build1 (dapper), Packaged size: 153 kB, Installed size: 496 kB
[05:34] <gnomefreak> ompaul: i just policyed it in dapper
[05:34] <Kyl1> ill try to
[05:35] <Kyl1> here it is: http://pastebin.com/720757
[05:35] <dooglus> Kyl1: I think you need to "sudo apt-get update" - it sounds like the last time an update ran you weren't on-line - apt-get deletes its list of available packages when that happens,.
[05:36] <Kyl1> i only installed this last night, if that may be a issue.
[05:36] <dooglus> Kyl1: try a 'sudo apt-get update' and see if that fixes it.  it won't do any harm
[05:36] <gnomefreak> dooglus: cron runs update get update on boot up
[05:37] <dooglus> gnomefreak: only if it hasn't been done for a while, I think.  and if you're not on-line at the time it will delete its list of packages
[05:37] <Kyl1> ok done the update.
[05:37] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: the cdrom repo needs to have a # infront of it
[05:37] <Kyl1> ok ill make the change
[05:37] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: dapper by default adds 2 of them for some odd reason
[05:38] <morphi> help: i try to installt glib... ./configure works fine   make works fine   but make install doesnt work -> permissin denied....but im logged in as admin :(
[05:38] <Stormx2> morphi: You need
[05:38] <Stormx2> morphi: sudo make install
[05:38] <ompaul> !br
[05:38] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:38] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: also uncomment all the otehr deb lines except the backports ones
[05:38] <dooglus> morphi: "sudo checkinstall" is better - it'll make you a .deb package
[05:38] <Stormx2> morphi: And you should never be logged in as root on an ubuntu machine
[05:39] <ompaul> gnomefreak, launchpad :)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> launchpad?
[05:39] <ompaul> bug
[05:39] <dooglus> gnomefreak: that's where you should report the cdrom bug
[05:40] <lwizardl> what does a filename listed in green with a * in front mean?
[05:40] <Kyl1> how do i save this if its only for root
[05:40] <gnomefreak> dooglus: oh ok i wasnt even thinking about the
[05:40] <gnomefreak> that
[05:41] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: click save than close than run sudo apt-get update
[05:41] <Kyl1> i cant save it, it wont let me
[05:41] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: you didnt open it with sudo i take it?
[05:41] <Kyl1> i dont know how lol
[05:41] <dooglus> lwizardl: I guess it means that the file is executable.  isn't the * after it, not before?
[05:42] <ompaul> Kyl1, to edit the file >>gksudo gedit thatfile<<
[05:42] <lwizardl> no its before the file name
[05:42] <dooglus> Kyl1: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:42] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: what editor did you open it with?
[05:42] <dooglus> lwizardl: how are you seeing that?  from 'ls'?  or in nautilus?  or where?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> dooglus: gksudo
[05:42] <dooglus> gnomefreak: if you prefer.  sudo is fine too
[05:42] <lwizardl> konqueor
[05:42] <||arifaX> but its .lst not list, isn't it?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> dooglus: no not for gui apps its really not
[05:43] <dooglus> lwizardl: ooh, right.  #kubuntu might be able to help
[05:43] <gnomefreak> !gksudo
[05:43] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[05:43] <Kyl1> ok saved the changes
[05:43] <bzq666> Do you know any peer2mail application for ubuntu ?
[05:43] <morphi> n1 it works....anyone can tell me, why i needed "sudo make install"
[05:43] <dooglus> gnomefreak: if sudo scrambles your user account then that's a bug.  which application will scramble anything if run using sudo?
[05:44] <dooglus> morphi: "make install" installs stuff to directories which you don't have permission to write to
[05:44] <dooglus> morphi: usually /usr/local/...
[05:44] <||arifaX> soogius: it does scramble it sometimes... really!
[05:44] <koolhead17> hey can we make a USB distro out of UBUNTO
[05:44] <koolhead17> ?
[05:44] <morphi> but what means "sudo"? sry i just started using linux
[05:45] <ompaul> !root
[05:45] <dooglus> morphi: SuperUser DO - run the command as 'root' instead of as 'morphi'
[05:45] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:45] <morphi> ahhh well thanx alot
[05:45] <ompaul> morphi, read that page ^^^^^^^ up a line or so about root
[05:45] <morphi> :P
[05:45] <guerra> when i log a machine via ssh i have problems with the backspace, when i press it it overwrites not only a character but all the word, anyone know how can i fix it?
[05:45] <||arifaX> uh its .list - my fault
[05:45] <dooglus> morphi: compare the output of "id" and "sudo id"
[05:46] <morphi> well
[05:46] <gnomefreak> dooglus: gksudo was made to open gtk apps sudo was not made that way
[05:46] <Kyl1> ok after modding my sources.list file, what do i do?
[05:47] <dooglus> Kyl1: did you try installing libglib1.2-dev since you ran the 'apt-get update' command?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> Kyl1: sudo apt-get update
[05:47] <Kyl1> ahh the update...
[05:47] <Kyl1> sweet _____!
[05:47] <pezuk> I'm trying to install a plugin for streamin video from my browser (firefox) for my media player totem-xine
[05:48] <dooglus> pezuk: enable the breezy-backports repository, update, then install totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[05:48] <pezuk> i type 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin' but can not find the package.. ive enabled the additional repositories
[05:48] <Kyl1> it has now stated
[05:48] <Kyl1> Package libglib1.2-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:48] <Kyl1> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[05:49] <ompaul> Kyl1, you are on dapper are you not?
[05:49] <Kyl1> yes i am
[05:49] <ompaul> Kyl1, well several hints were dropped the channel #ubuntu+1 is for dapper
[05:49] <ompaul> Kyl1, so you would be dealing with people with the same software mostly
[05:50] <dooglus> Kyl1: is line 8 still commented?  it needs not to be
[05:50] <kane777> leaving... beye
[05:51] <Kyl1> ahh line 8...
[05:51] <salah> how do I get GNOME start? Already started GDM and logged in, the everything stops up
[05:51] <ompaul> salah, what kind of video card have you got?
[05:52] <salah> Intel 815x (I don't know anything more than that)
[05:52] <salah> it's a laptop
[05:52] <salah> I think I miss some packages
[05:52] <pezuk> dooglus: when you state 'backports', do you mean the universe and multiverse repositories?
[05:53] <rambo3> backport backports
[05:53] <ompaul> salah, do this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << if you did not do >> sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop <<your paying the price now
[05:53] <gnomefreak> pezuk: backports are the repos with the word backport in it
[05:53] <guerra> anyone knows how to solve the backspace problems in ssh from an ubuntu machine to another?
[05:53] <gnomefreak> pezuk: there are repos for just universe and multiverse seprate than the backports
[05:54] <pezuk> gnomefreak: how do i add the back repos? sorry, im a complete n00b
[05:54] <thespore> I think a recent update (past couple weeks) has broken compatibility with Zend Studio Client 4.0.1,  when I try to run it.. the Java proccess is initiated, but the app does not launch... any ideas as to what i could be?
[05:54] <gnomefreak> pezuk: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[05:54] <dooglus> pezuk: I mean breezy-backports
[05:54] <ompaul> !tell pezuk about easysource
[05:55] <salah> ompaul the desktop works fine.. gnome is just not loading
[05:55] <ompaul> pezuk, just check the link for the bot
[05:55] <salah> the login screen shows and I log in, but then nothing more happends
[05:55] <richiefrich> anyone know whats  provides   hdiutil
[05:55] <gnomefreak> salah: that would be an indication that its not fine
[05:55] <R1CHARD> hello
[05:55] <gary> Can someone explain to me why this doesn't work: "sudo cd some_directory"
[05:55] <pezuk> gnomefreak: im using 5.10
[05:56] <dooglus> salah: I've had that problem due to 'esd' before.  if I switch to a virtual console with control-alt-f1, run "pkill esd", then switch back to GNOME with alt-f7, it starts up
[05:56] <gary> It just says "cd: no such command
[05:56] <ompaul> salah, did you do >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< just humour me with an answer to that question
[05:56] <dooglus> gary: because cd isn't a command, it's a bash builtin
[05:56] <salah> gary: you don't need sudo for use of cd
[05:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell pezuk about backports
[05:56] <salah> ompaul, yes I did
[05:57] <DaSkreec1> is there an on screen keyboard?
[05:57] <dooglus> gary: sudo runs one child process as root, and then the child process exits, leaving you where you were.  even if there was a cd command, it wouldn't do you any good, because the process which changed to a different directory would have died before you get to type your next command
[05:57] <dooglus> Danjo: gok
[05:57] <dooglus> DaSkreec1: gok
[05:57] <voraistos> hey guys, i was wondering... Some of my softs relly look bad (VLC, amsn, and others...) how should I set it up? to look better ?
[05:57] <ompaul> salah, then you are not missing anything so did you carry out the previous command - >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << try it automagically once, if that fails the second time around choose VESA as the video card type
[05:57] <pezuk> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted?
[05:58] <dooglus> pezuk: put the word 'breezy' between 'ubuntu' and 'breezy-backports'
[05:58] <DaSkreec1> dooglus: how do you get to it with out keyboard?
[05:58] <salah> ompaul: it works now, thank you
[05:58] <dooglus> DaSkreec1: um...  I don't know, I don't use GNOME
[05:58] <DaSkreec1> kute :)
[05:59] <dooglus> DaSkreec1: do you see 'accessability' or some such in any of the menus?
[05:59] <DaSkreec1> yeah just found it
[05:59] <dooglus> DaSkreec1: where, for future reference?
[05:59] <DaSkreec1> it's not installed by default
[05:59] <dooglus> DaSkreec1: ok, so you can install it using just the mouse in synaptic
[05:59] <DaSkreec1> system ->pref-> assistive
[06:00] <duda> my flash doesnt have sound, how to put sound in my flash plugin?
[06:00] <mlehrer> how well does ubuntu handle a video card with 2 screens of different resolutions?
[06:00] <DaSkreec1> dooglus: eXCEPT you  need  the keyboard for the password
[06:00] <dooglus> duda: that usually happens if something else was using the sound device when you started (the browser / the plugin)
[06:00] <dooglus> DaSkreec1: ugh!
[06:00] <DaSkreec1> yeah!!
[06:01] <duda> dooglus, owk, thanks!
[06:01] <dooglus> DaSkreec1: can you maybe use the mouse to copy and paste letters from other words to make up your password?
[06:01] <mlehrer> e.g. if i click on a pdf in the 1600x1200 screen, will it be easy to move it to the 1024x1280 one?
[06:01] <DaSkreec1> dooglus: good idea
[06:01] <dooglus> DaSkreec1: I don't know if you can paste into that password box - the screen kind of locks up when gksudo is prompting you - but maybe it'll work
[06:03] <voraistos> so, anyone? I think it is a graphic API thing.
[06:03] <voraistos> yea thats not very clear ;)
[06:04] <mwe> you can paste into gksudo
[06:05] <voraistos> :'(
[06:06] <cart> Anyone knows if exist a solution to the problem with the ALi M5263 ethernet adapter?? (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=114416030211114&w=2)
[06:06] <pietro59> buona sera a tutti
[06:07] <ompaul> !it
[06:07] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:07] <voraistos> lol ompaul
[06:07] <pietro59> ok scusa
[06:07] <voraistos> was gonnadp it ;)
[06:07] <voraistos> do *
[06:07] <ompaul> voraistos, we understand :)
[06:08] <voraistos> ompaul: hay maybe u can help me MR. guru
[06:08] <minimec> Did anyone of you install (compile) the ivtv driver into 'dapper'. Fallowing the install instructions I get a buildpackage error... I am sick of all this debugging.
[06:08] <pezuk> thank you people, i have installed the totem-xine plugin for the backports :-) It's also updated a few pieces of software too
[06:08] <voraistos> ompaul: i have some softs, they really look bad
[06:09] <voraistos> omaul: they look just like kype, but VLC for nome looks bad as well. I dont understand why
[06:09] <ompaul> voraistos, try /msg ubotu resolution
[06:09] <bjackson> Hello
[06:09] <voraistos> hum ?
[06:09] <pezuk> firefox didnt reconise the totem-xine-plugin.. do i need to restart?
[06:09] <[Utah] tristanbob> do people usually enable the Ubuntu Backports repository (it says that it is officially supported)
[06:10] <voraistos> ompaul: no thats not it at all ;)
[06:10] <ompaul> voraistos, if its not resolution, be aware that skype has fonts that are not from gnome, you need to play around with kde fonts to get that looking reasonable, the other one no idea
[06:10] <[Utah] tristanbob> I usually enable the Universe, and it works well
[06:10] <mwe> pezuk: you probably need to create a symlink. did you upgrade ff manually?
[06:11] <DaSkreec1> HAHA Found it
[06:11] <voraistos> ompaul: yeah i know that. but thats not the problem.
[06:11] <voraistos> ompaul: even java softs look better
[06:11] <Mitsurugi> can ubuntu open .BIN files?
[06:12] <voraistos> yea. it is compiled software, isnt it ?
[06:12] <gary> thanks dooglus and salah
[06:12] <mwe> Mitsurugi: chmod +x the file then run it
[06:12] <Mitsurugi> so i can download java to my desktop and it will install?
[06:12] <ompaul> voraistos, coders dictate the looks, and there are times when they go for kde fonts it looks rubbish until you install kde fonts this I know
[06:12] <pezuk> mwe: im trying to stream BBC UK's Apprentice.. it successfully streams WMV files but not RAM streams.. it says that it needs the realplayer plugin but surely totem-xne plays realmedia files?
[06:12] <ompaul> !java
[06:12] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:13] <gary> Offtopic question: What's the word that can be used like this: "write the <xxx> path" which would mean, instead of writing ./myfiles/ you would write /home/bob/myfiles
[06:13] <ompaul> !restricted
[06:13] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:13] <gary> like the full path, absolute path
[06:13] <gary> can't remember the wrod
[06:13] <gary> it MAY begin with an "R"
[06:13] <ompaul> pezuk,                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that one up there
[06:13] <tuxmaniac> !info mplayer
[06:13] <mwe> pezuk: yes I would think that was because of a missing codec
[06:13] <tony_> help, what it the command to reconfigure x?
[06:13] <tuxmaniac> !mplayer
[06:13] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:14] <XsPiDeR> what's up with the UbuntuForums.Org?
[06:14] <tony_> help, what it the command to reconfigure x?
[06:14] <ompaul> XsPiDeR, no idea, #ubuntuforums maybe
[06:14] <mwe> XsPiDeR: it's down or reeeeeeally slow
[06:15] <pezuk> mwe: i have the w32 codec(s) though?
[06:15] <bjackson> I was trying to build my kernel using 'make gconfig' and was informed that gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0 are not installed.  In the Synaptic Package Manager, I could not find packages with any of the names.  How do I solve the problem?
[06:15] <anmar> OLA
[06:15] <voraistos> ompaul:yea. do u know where i could find any info? because i want the gnome look for everything... even in firefox the "system" things (like the roller thing) look bad...(so grey, so squared, and so not user friendly)
[06:15] <mwe> pezuk: I don't know if that includes the codec you need
[06:15] <anmar> HEELO
[06:15] <anmar> LOVE
[06:15] <ompaul> voraistos, you will have to dig into the source for that
[06:16] <julia1> does anyone know an icq client which supports the xstatus?
[06:16] <voraistos> ompaul: really ?
[06:16] <voraistos> ompaul: damn, i thougt it was working like windows or mac for that
[06:16] <tony_> help, what it the command to reconfigure x?
[06:16] <tony_> help, what it the command to reconfigure x?
[06:16] <NoUse> !tell tony_ about xorg
[06:17] <ompaul> voraistos, its a compiled program you can check their xml files and see if you can get anything out of it, but your the first person I have seen who asked that (most likely won;t be the last)
[06:17] <ericmoritz\0> does anyone know how I can change the password of my default keyring?
[06:17] <NoUse> tony_ also, please don't repeat the question twice
[06:17] <ompaul> voraistos, but at least you can compile them the way you like
[06:17] <mwe> voraistos: the menus in ff change here when I install a different theme
[06:18] <ompaul> tony_,  >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<
[06:18] <voraistos> ompaul: the thing is, for example VLC, in breezy looks bad, but in dapper it had the gnome look! how do u cal the system of "look", is it API thing?
[06:19] <ompaul> voraistos, no idea, that would be for a programmer :-)
[06:19] <ubuntu_> salut tout le monde
[06:19] <ompaul> !fr
[06:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:19] <HymnToLife> !fr
[06:19] <voraistos> !fr
[06:19] <ompaul> ye are so slow :)
[06:19] <tony_> guess no one knows
[06:19] <tony_> oh well
[06:19] <mwe> voraistos: afaik VLC is gtk1 at least the breezy version. the look of gtk1 apps usually suck pretty bad
[06:19] <ompaul> tony_,  >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<
[06:19] <tony_> linux is easy to fuck up
[06:19] <tony_> back to windows xp at least i wont have to dick around with that to get it working correctly.
[06:19] <ompaul> tony_, ^^^ I already said that and language is not called for
[06:19] <ompaul> opem,
[06:20] <NoUse> tony_ 3 people have sent you a response
[06:20] <tony_> well guess what
[06:20] <BLeST> could anyone explain to me why i try to install 5.10 on my home computer it always seems to freeze installing GRUB?
[06:20] <voraistos> mwe: yea thx, it is the gtk thing !
[06:20] <tony_> im on a shitty terminal irc client and i cant see shit
[06:20] <mwe> voraistos: you can limit the pain somewhat by installing a different theme
[06:20] <tony_> after it scrolls past
[06:20] <mwe> voraistos: install gtk-theme-switch for that
[06:20] <tuxmaniac> !info mplayer
[06:20] <voraistos> mwe: tx :)
[06:21] <NoUse> I love people that come in here looking for help and pack an attitude
[06:21] <nono_> join #ubuntu-fr
[06:21] <ompaul> mwe got a wiki page for that?
[06:22] <mwe> voraistos: the programs that gtk-theme-switch installs are called switch and switch2 for gtk1 and gtk2
[06:22] <tuxmaniac> How will I disable this crappy Your battery is fully recharged pop up!!!!
[06:22] <mwe> ompaul: for changing gtk themes?
[06:22] <ompaul> mwe yeap
[06:23] <tuxmaniac> It is coming up every 2 minutes
[06:23] <mwe> ompaul: no.
[06:23] <bjackson> What are the names of the packages that contain gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0?
[06:23] <BLeST> everytime i try installing ubuntu the installer sits at 0% when its installing GRUB... any ideas?
[06:23] <tuxmaniac> voraistos: Say it here!! Every body will hug you. :)
[06:24] <ompaul> mwe, guess I got to play with it then :)
[06:25] <peruano> hi, somebody knows how to set an email account in evolution from the beggining?
[06:25] <mwe> ompaul: yeah. it's straight forward. sudo apt-get install gtk-theme-switch. then run switch or switch2
[06:25] <ompaul> so I see
[06:25] <ompaul> this is fun
[06:25] <gnomefreak> ompaul: what app?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> nvm i see it
[06:27] <Mahmoud_> Hello, Is 10 processes for gnome-pty-helper normal? (I am a new linux user)
[06:27] <marghi> hi, I installed and started  vsftpd  and when accessing in via   ftp localhost and logging in I can  cd succesfully.  But when doing "get" or "ls" it gives me  500 illegal port error any help?
[06:28] <jdmpike> exit
[06:29] <Intangir> anyone know how to get .. a viewer to work with .tga files?
[06:29] <Intangir> i want a light viewer to browse my .tga image files
[06:29] <jmora> hola
[06:29] <jmora> holaa
[06:29] <jmora> hello
[06:29] <Intangir> gimp can open them.. but its not very convenient when yo need to browse over a bunch of them
[06:30] <Intangir> eog seems to crash when i try to open them
[06:30] <gnomefreak> jmora: #ubuntu-es  for spanish this is an english channel
[06:30] <Intangir> and gThumb viewer doesnt open them either
[06:30] <maryam> any e mails
[06:30] <moitio> /dev/dsp is reading as busy when i try and play songs in svn MPD, or Last FM player (and various other apps) - can anyone help?
[06:30] <gnomefreak> maryam: what do you mean?
[06:31] <maryam> can i have someones e mail
[06:31] <maryam> coz im bord
[06:31] <maryam> who is online
[06:31] <gnomefreak> maryam: please join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask that this is a support channel only
[06:32] <maryam> ok
[06:32] <maryam> fuck
[06:32] <NoUse> !language
[06:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[06:32] <messiah> hola
[06:32] <Johnny_RG> Alguien q sepa utilizar el putty
[06:32] <Johnny_RG> ?
[06:33] <messiah> uso ubuntu, y cada vez que arranco el pc tengoque instalar los drivers de NVIDIA porke petan las x, que puedo hacer'
[06:33] <messiah> ?
[06:33] <NoUse> !es
[06:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:33] <voraistos> !es
[06:33] <maryam> sorry
[06:33] <gnomefreak> english in here please or join #ubuntu-es
[06:34] <maryam> i dint know what this chat thing was about
[06:34] <maryam> i wont do that again
[06:34] <root_____> habl??quieres putty
[06:34] <gnomefreak> maryam: this is a support channel only
[06:34] <gnomefreak> maryam: for normal chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <moitio> /dev/dsp is reading as busy when i try and play songs in svn MPD, or Last FM player (and various other apps) - can anyone help?
[06:34] <mikebot> my totem player doesn't show video anymore, it's just a blue screen, anyone know how i can fix this?
[06:34] <gnomefreak> root_____: #ubuntu-es
[06:35] <Jowi> !printers
[06:35] <ubotu> printers is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:35] <mwe> root_____: I have a bad feeling that you're on irc as root. don't do that
[06:35] <gnomefreak> mikebot: is that totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[06:35] <root_____> quieres q te ayude con putty
[06:36] <mikebot> gnomefreak, how can i check?
[06:36] <mikebot> gnomefreak, Movie Player using xine-lib version 1.0.1
[06:36] <gnomefreak> apt-cache policy totem-xine
[06:36] <War> Hi I am having problems with the master volumen..  I am using the alsa driver...   when a lower or mute the volumen .. and its does't do anything the one that works its the PCM volumen..
[06:36] <gnomefreak> mwe: hes not
[06:36] <voraistos> root_____: yes do that ;)
[06:37] <R1CHARD> LePutty
[06:37] <gnomefreak> !es
[06:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:37] <voraistos> putty, isnt it a windows ssh client ?
[06:37] <mwe> gnomefreak: really? /whois root_____ says: root@157.100.192.66 [root] 
[06:37] <R1CHARD> voraistos, yes it's.
[06:37] <voraistos> perfect.
[06:37] <gnomefreak> mwe: look at the name
[06:38] <gnomefreak> mwe: under the ip
[06:38] <mikebot> gnomefreak, you knwo how to fix this?
[06:38] <voraistos> heuy lets hack this guy' s box....... lol
[06:38] <marghi> how can I make a cd iso image from a directory tree?
[06:38] <R1CHARD> lol
[06:38] <softwork> loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[06:38] <gnomefreak> mikebot: what totem are you using?
[06:38] <mwe> gnomefreak: it doesn't show here
[06:39] <mikebot> gnomefreak, in the about it says: Movie Player using xine-lib version 1.0.1
[06:39] <gnomefreak> mwe: under real name it shows me oot
[06:39] <gnomefreak> root
[06:39] <gnomefreak> mikebot: dapper ?
[06:39] <mikebot> gnomefreak, no
[06:39] <fedora_good> hello everyone
[06:40] <gnomefreak> mikebot: not off hand no when did it stop working?
[06:40] <R1CHARD> fedora_good need to banned
[06:40] <R1CHARD> lol
[06:40] <mikebot> gnomefreak, yesterday
[06:40] <mindamp> im looking for a good mp3/wma PHP stream application... ive already tried kplaylist and mp3act, any other suggestions?
[06:40] <fedora_good> does Ubuntu supports Yum packet manager?
[06:40] <mwe> gnomefreak: I don't know. I think the root@ip indicates he's logged on as root, if I'm not mistaken
[06:40] <fedora_good> Richard i just luv Fedora
[06:40] <gnomefreak> fedora_good: no
[06:40] <fedora_good> yiiiikkkess
[06:40] <fedora_good> ok
[06:40] <fedora_good> ty
[06:40] <NoUse> fedora_good apt-get is better anyway :-)
[06:41] <R1CHARD> federic, not really
[06:41] <R1CHARD> aptitude is better
[06:41] <BLeST> i still need help getting  ubuntu installed :/
[06:41] <fedora_good> NoUse apt-get is good but i heard in Yum you can make your own repositories
[06:41] <gnomefreak> mwe: ircname  : root   that is why i say hes not
[06:41] <NoUse> fedora_good you can do that with apt too
[06:41] <fedora_good> NoUse ?????
[06:41] <fedora_good> NoUse do u have a link that tells me how?
[06:42] <gnomefreak> fedora_good: R1CHARD  #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:42] <sissi_> hi all, I do an upgrade from breezy to dapper, the kernel 2.6.15 doesn't work and freeze on "Loading hardware drivers...", I download the dapper live CD and it's the same, how can I fix it ?
[06:42] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell fedora_good about apt
[06:42] <gnomefreak> sissi_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for help with dapper please
[06:43] <gnomefreak> BLeST: how far does the install get?
[06:43] <NoUse> fedora_good http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/286
[06:43] <sissi_> gnomefreak, ok sorry
[06:43] <Johnny_RG> ?alguien q sepa como instalaar el ssh sin red
[06:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fedora_good about apt
[06:43] <BLeST> gnomefreaks: installing grub.. sits at 0% indefinately
[06:43] <Johnny_RG> diganme los pasos please
[06:43] <gnomefreak> Johnny_RG: #ubuntu-es
[06:43] <fedora_good> NoUse ty
[06:43] <fedora_good> gnomefreak ty
[06:43] <R1CHARD> gnomefreak, why?
[06:44] <gnomefreak> BLeST: i would try it again
[06:44] <BLeST> i've tried 10 x now
[06:44] <gnomefreak> R1CHARD: apt vs yum should not be in this channel
[06:44] <BLeST> keeps stopping at installing GRUB
[06:44] <moitio> /dev/dsp is reading as busy when i try and play songs in svn MPD, or Last FM player (and various other apps) - can anyone help?
[06:44] <gnomefreak> BLeST: did you check the md5 of the iso?
[06:44] <R1CHARD> isn't apt vs yum
[06:44] <R1CHARD> is apt-get vs aptitude
[06:44] <BLeST> gnome: yea it seemed fine but i can always retry another burn wh en i get home this evening
[06:45] <gnomefreak> R1CHARD > aptitude is better
[06:45] <R1CHARD> Realle, is better than apt-get
[06:45] <wasabi__> Trying to set up NFS.... getting RPC: Program not registered
[06:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell wasabi__ about nfs
[06:46] <peruano> hi, somebody knows how to set the e mail evolution?
[06:46] <gnomefreak> wasabi__: the last link in that should give you what you need
[06:47] <gnomefreak> peruano: what part are you stuck on?
[06:47] <R1CHARD> hey gnomefreak, what happend?
[06:47] <gnomefreak> R1CHARD: i removed you for getting smart
[06:47] <R1CHARD> do you have a problem with the peruvians?
[06:47] <peruano> i got this message , after i set everything
[06:47] <peruano> Unable to connect to POP server pop.gmail.com.
[06:47] <peruano> Error sending password: -ERR [AUTH]  Username and password not accepted.
[06:48] <wasabi__> gnomefreak: These are instructions for stuff I've already done.
[06:48] <gnomefreak> peruano: did you use @gmail.com?
[06:48] <peruano> hold down please gnomefreak
[06:48] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody tell me a howto please, that said how can i install the newest xgl on my kubuntu breezy!?
[06:49] <MetaMorfoziS> (i has downloaded a package iso
[06:49] <MetaMorfoziS> )
[06:49] <MetaMorfoziS> but i can't use it
[06:49] <gnomefreak> R1CHARD: i asked you to go to offtopic because this wasnt the place for that disscusion getting smart with me is what got you removed lets not do it again
[06:49] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: you cant install xgl on breezy
[06:49] <R1CHARD> but I didn't speak another topi
[06:49] <MetaMorfoziS> why? i red a lot of forums some humans do it
[06:49] <R1CHARD> apt-get and aptitude is topic of Ubuntu
[06:50] <R1CHARD> what's the problem
[06:50] <gnomefreak> R1CHARD: thats not the convo im talking about and you know it
[06:50] <gnomefreak>  R1CHARD > isn't apt vs yum
[06:50] <sbalneav> R1CHARD: I'd drop it if I were you.
[06:50] <gnomefreak> 12:45 <         R1CHARD > is apt-get vs aptitude
[06:51] <gnomefreak> now i would suggest you stop
[06:51] <R1CHARD> yes, I didn't continue with yum
[06:51] <Angel_Dex> where can i get a list of video drivers 5.10 has?
[06:51] <mindamp> anyone?
[06:51] <R1CHARD> in other side, show me the probes
[06:51] <gnomefreak> mindamp: ?
[06:52] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: what driver are you looking for?
[06:52] <Mahmoud_> ubotu tell Mahmoud_ about nfs
[06:52] <R1CHARD> gnomefreak, bye bye
[06:52] <R1CHARD> You are one of the abusser of their powers in the world
[06:52] <njal> i need some help compiling the latest NDiswraper
[06:52] <sbalneav> Angel_Dex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards might help you
[06:52] <R1CHARD> You don't have nothing of power
[06:53] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak Im looking to update my Video card to somthing alittle newer and better just to be up to date
[06:53] <R1CHARD> is only a channel
[06:53] <R1CHARD> bye
[06:53] <R1CHARD> I won't return
[06:53] <R1CHARD> won't necesary
[06:53] <mlehrer> is anyone here using a dual head display
[06:53] <Angel_Dex> whos thatyou just banned?
[06:53] <Angel_Dex> lol
[06:53] <mindamp> ls
[06:54] <peruano> gnomefreak, are u there
[06:54] <gnomefreak> peruano: yes
[06:54] <Angel_Dex> sbalneav =o that looks like exactly what i needed thank ya
[06:54] <peruano> could u explain me, what is wrong with this
[06:54] <gnomefreak> peruano: make sure you used pop.gmail.com for the incomming server and smtp.gmail.com for outgoing server
[06:54] <colea> hello, i screwed up mysql, i tried to upgrade it to 5.0, and now the server wont start, how can i completely remove mysql from my system, to do a new install via Adept? im using Ubuntu Breezy... thanks
[06:55] <korven2003> what is the name of the package that contains glgears?
[06:55] <gnomefreak> peruano: what is your email name that you used
[06:55] <peruano> yes, i typed like that
[06:55] <slackern> peruano: just to check have you enabled it on gmail so you can use pop3?
[06:55] <gnomefreak> korven2003: glxgears?
[06:55] <peruano> it;s only appear pop
[06:56] <marco__> hi i have a problem with audio driver
[06:56] <sbalneav> colea: do a dpkg -l | grep mysql, then do an aptitude purge <pkglist> obtained from the first step.
[06:56] <marco__> when i tr this http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=.&chip=CMI8330&module=cmi8330#intro
[06:56] <peruano> no, slackern
[06:56] <gnomefreak> peruano: what only appears as pop?
[06:56] <peruano> i didnt
[06:56] <peruano> yes
[06:56] <marco__> i recived this error from gcc
[06:56] <colea> sbalneav , thanks, ill try that
[06:56] <gnomefreak> peruano: go into gmail settings and set that please
[06:56] <slackern> peruano: Go to Settings->Forwarding and POP and enable pop access there. settings in gmail webpage.
[06:57] <marco__> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:57] <marco__> you can help me?
[06:57] <MisterN> hi
[06:57] <Angel_Dex> These are all knew expensive video cards TT_TT i only wanna spend like 50$ just to get somthing better then my rage pro ultra 128
[06:57] <gnomefreak> marco__: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:57] <peruano> ok, let me do it
[06:57] <colea> sbalneav , i had mysql 4.1 installed, then i tried to install 5.0 from source, not using apt, does that leave any extra files or directories to be removed?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: my nvidia was 60 dollars
[06:57] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak What one?
[06:57] <sbalneav> colea: If you do the purge, it should remove everything.  Config files, data, the whole shebang
[06:58] <gnomefreak> nvidia fx 5200
[06:58] <korven2003> gnomefreak how do i show the fps in glxgears?
[06:58] <gnomefreak> korven2003: glxgears -printfps
[06:58] <slackern> !glxgears
[06:58] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[06:58] <colea> sbalneav , ok, let me try that
[06:58] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak hmmm ok was it hard to set up in 5.10?
[06:58] <gnomefreak> slackern: mines faster ;)
[06:59] <korven2003> weee 8000fps =)
[06:59] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: no took less than 10 mins
[06:59] <marco__> thx
[06:59] <slackern> gnomefreak: :p yeah but mines easier to type for me :P
[06:59] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:59] <peruano> ok guys, i got 2 options
[06:59] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak you nistalled the 3d binary thing right?
[06:59] <gnomefreak> peruano: enable pop should be the one
[07:00] <korven2003> does the videooverlay option affect the 3dd performance or is it just 2d?
[07:00] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[07:00] <gnomefreak> ^^^ Angel_Dex
[07:00] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:00] <gnomefreak> when it posts
[07:00] <peruano> i got forwarding and pop download
[07:00] <Jowi> !gutenprint
[07:00] <ubotu> Jowi: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:00] <gnomefreak> what are the 3 choices i cant get in mine right now
[07:00] <peruano> in pop download option is where i have enable pop for all e mail
[07:01] <slackern> Enable POP for all mail and in the dialogue underneath "keep Gmail's copy in the inbox" is what i use.
[07:01] <peruano> ok
[07:01] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak, "Some video chipsets have buggy VGA BIOS implementations; they may render text consoles incorrectly" Do you have this problem with your card?
[07:01] <gnomefreak> peruano: enable pop for all mail
[07:01] <gnomefreak> i use archive gmails copy ;)
[07:01] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: nope i dont
[07:01] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak, Ah ok ^_^ I might just get that one then Many thanks
[07:02] <slackern> gnomefreak: i use the webpage quite often so nice to see whats new there when im not at my pc
[07:02] <gnomefreak> yw
[07:02] <gnomefreak> ah i was there yesterday adding another gmail account and setting it up for thunderchicken but i cant remember the way its worded
[07:02] <peruano> i got to restart, after this
[07:02] <gnomefreak> peruano: no
[07:03] <peruano> so, still doesnt work
[07:03] <peruano> the same
[07:03] <gnomefreak> peruano: you have to restart evolution not the pc
[07:03] <peruano> ok
[07:03] <gnomefreak> peruano: what is the user name you used?
[07:03] <Jowi> !info cupsys-driver-gutenprint
[07:03] <brotherJohn1234> and your passwort, please :)
[07:04] <gnomefreak> is it bleh or bleh@gmail.com
[07:04] <gnomefreak> Jowi: issues?
[07:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Jowi about print
[07:04] <magical_trevsky> anyone know how to find out my PCs mac address from the terminal/
[07:04] <moitio> /dev/dsp is reading as busy when i try and play songs in svn MPD, or Last FM player (and various other apps) - can anyone help?
[07:04] <NoUse> magical_trevsky ifconfig
[07:04] <gnomefreak> brotherJohn1234: please dont kid like that someone may not know you joking
[07:04] <Jowi> gnomefreak: not yet. dad-in-law on the hunt for a printer at a resonable price that work well with linux. found an epson that seems to be supported with gutenprint
[07:04] <gnomefreak> magical_trevsky: ifconfig
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Jowi: my epson 64 works wonders
[07:05] <wims> magical_trevsky,  can't you do an ifconfig ?
[07:05] <Jowi> gnomefreak: think it was a all-in-one stylus DX4250
[07:06] <gnomefreak> Jowi: if you go to the link ubotu sent you the first one is hardware i would start there ;)
[07:06] <Minty> how do I get to see my window partion and files  ???
[07:06] <Micke> hi all im very new on linux (my 2 day), I just wounder if this is a good place to get help if i need?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> Micke: yes
[07:07] <peruano> gnomefreak, in the forwarding option, it;s have to be with a check on disable forwarding
[07:07] <XiXaQ> how can I see what IP address my NIC has been assigned by the DHCP server?
[07:07] <Jowi> gnomefreak: yes, I've come to the conclusion that it is supported (at linuxprinting.org - nothing found at the ubuntuwiki) and now doing research for gutenprint. did you need any additional drivers for cups need to be installed for the one you have?
[07:07] <slackern> Micke: you could also join the channel #ubuntu-se to talk with swedish people :)
[07:07] <Mystery47> Mickey: Yes!
[07:07] <Micke> ok thx
[07:07] <Mystery47> sorry Micke...:(
[07:07] <adrian__> jest ktos z polski ?
[07:07] <slackern> !pl
[07:08] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:08] <Jowi> XiXaQ: in a terminal: "ifconfig"
[07:09] <XiXaQ> thanks
[07:09] <marco__> how i install kernel sources with apt?
[07:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell marco__ about kernel-source
[07:11] <HymnToLife> marco__> sudo apt-get install linux-source-<your kernel version here>
[07:11] <gnomefreak> marco__: your pm has instructions
[07:11] <outlawcrook> ok i cant get the x server back upand going..I have tried the sudo dpkg-reconfiguer xserver-xorg it goes through its steps but when i reboot still will not load
[07:11] <outlawcrook> ???
[07:11] <HymnToLife> outlawcrook> any error message ?
[07:11] <marco__> thx
[07:11] <kuja> What's the specific error?
[07:12] <gnomefreak> marco__: yw
[07:12] <outlawcrook> i can let it try and load then come back and tell ya
[07:12] <Jowi> gnomefreak: do you know if gutenprint is the replacement for gimp-print?
[07:13] <dmesg> hi
[07:13] <gnomefreak> Jowi: they are seprate
[07:13] <dmesg> any one recomend hula?
[07:13] <gnomefreak> seperate
[07:13] <wims> does anybody know about an easy to install Zope for Ubuntu ?
[07:13] <outlawcrook> will brb in a few
[07:13] <gnomefreak> wims: sudo apt-get install zope?
[07:14] <peruano> gnomefreak, i still dont have pop3 in the options, and i already enable pop for all my email
[07:14] <gnomefreak> peruano: delete the emails accounts set with evo and redo them my evo is letting me add pop to it
[07:14] <wyattware> hi all.  has anyone had any luck with setting up ubuntu for fax receive and voice messageing?
[07:14] <marco__>  Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.12-9-386 .... why?
[07:14] <wims> gnomefreak,  problem is that i want v2.7
[07:14] <wims> which was released in 2004
[07:14] <gnomefreak> peruano: it might just say pop not pop3
[07:14] <peruano> ok,
[07:15] <peruano> ok
[07:15] <gnomefreak> wims: what version do you have in repos?
[07:15] <gnomefreak> !info zope
[07:15] <ubotu> zope: (Open Source Web Application Server), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 2.6.4-1.6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2554 kB, Installed size: 13848 kB
[07:16] <gnomefreak> !info zope dapper
[07:16] <gnomefreak> wims: i would look on zope site for a .deb file
[07:16] <ProN00b> how do i ignore all incoming icmp packets ?
[07:16] <wims> ok
[07:17] <kaitsu> hello
[07:18] <ICE> I can't get my internet connection to work
[07:18] <rosen> lmao
[07:18] <ICE> I reset my switch and not it doesn't work
[07:18] <rosen> you are here ?
[07:18] <rosen> :)
[07:19] <ICE> windows comp
[07:19] <rosen> ew
[07:19] <NoUse> ICE do you have an IP address?
[07:19] <root_____> una pregunta
[07:19] <ICE> no
[07:19] <NoUse> !es
[07:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:19] <ICE> not on my nix box
[07:19] <NoUse> ICE do you usually get it from DHCP?
[07:19] <kaitsu> ubuntu is best
[07:19] <ICE> yes
[07:19] <nox-Hand> I am making a usplash image, but I don't know how to convert my PNG image (( just a simple black / white png, but the black/white change is smooth, so no useable)) to a 16 colour PNG. Can anyone help?
[07:19] <wyattware> hi all.  has anyone had any luck with setting up ubuntu for fax receive and voice messageing?
[07:20] <NoUse> ICE try running 'sudo dhclient eth0'
[07:20] <ICE> is there a way to release it with linux or no
[07:20] <JRG> alguien me ayuda como agregar permisos de escritura a archivos para otros usuarios en linux ubuntu
[07:20] <JRG> ??????????
[07:20] <ICE> k
[07:20] <NoUse> !es
[07:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:20] <gnomefreak> JRG: #ubuntu-es
[07:20] <kaitsu> does anybody knows drivers for canon pixma mp150 machine
[07:21] <doubletwist> Anyone here use backuppc?
[07:21] <peruano> gnomefreak, it's working now, thank u
[07:21] <peruano> let me ask u this
[07:21] <gnomefreak> peruano: YW
[07:22] <ICE> k NoUse I'm getting a subnet now
[07:22] <peruano> all this e mail, where they gonna storage,
[07:22] <peruano> in my hdd
[07:22] <NoUse> ICE just a subnet? no ip?
[07:22] <ICE> now what can I do
[07:22] <ICE> no ip
[07:22] <gnomefreak> peruano: you will have a copy left on gmail.com and i think evolution stores emails in your home dir
[07:23] <gnomefreak> peruano: not real sure on where though
[07:23] <NoUse> ICE I'd try assigning a static IP via System -> Admin -> Networking and see if that works
[07:23] <peruano> thanks any ways
[07:23] <Jowi> peruano: if you haven't set up anything special it will probably be in /var/mail/username as one big file.
[07:23] <coldness> i cant get my sound blaster live 24bit sound card to work on ubuntu linux
[07:24] <gnomefreak> peruano: its /home/username/.evolution/mail
[07:24] <ICE> never had to before
[07:24] <coldness> ubuntu forum
[07:24] <ICE> might be my switch
[07:25] <peruano> thay are not there, so it's good
[07:26] <coldness> i cant get my sound blaster live 24bit sound card to work on ubuntu linux can anyone help me
[07:26] <kaitsu> drivers for canon pixma mp 150 printer ???????
[07:26] <Rotund> can someone tell me what the app-install-data-commericial will be for?
[07:27] <Rotund> coldness: is it an EMU10K or the Crystal audio one?
[07:27] <NoUse> Rotund thats a dapper question, please direct it to #ubuntu+1
[07:27] <peruano> ok guys, it's not in both home and var
[07:28] <peruano> it's good for me , cause my hdd is really short
[07:28] <Rotund> coldness: do an `lspci` on the terminal
[07:28] <Jeff1983> is there a way to make the nautilus default to be "view as list"
[07:28] <wims> which package is that mp3 codec package again?
[07:28] <Rotund> Jeff1983: it's in the preferences of nautilus
[07:28] <peruano> gnomefreak,
[07:28] <Hso> question... is the person who yesterday told me to download Kanotix Linux to check my network configuration, here?
[07:28] <gnomefreak> peruano: ?
[07:28] <Rotund> wims: for the best one, goto fluendo.com and download their one (it's free)
[07:29] <Rotund> wims: it'll actually be licensed
[07:29] <peruano> i use to program in C, but a few years ago, and know, i install ubuntu in my pc, because i want to know how to program in linux
[07:29] <wims> Rotund thanks
[07:29] <peruano> sorry i mean used
[07:29] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[07:29] <Jeff1983> thanks Rotund
[07:30] <Hso> peruano, - afaik, you need to install alot of GCC packages that are in Synaptic
[07:30] <peruano> how can i get a good start in linux programming
[07:30] <Hso> I don't know :(
[07:30] <Hso> have you tried google?
[07:30] <highvoltage> peruano: there's a guide installed on your system, called dive into python :)
[07:30] <mwe> peruano: you can program in C in linux. ansi programs will work without changes
[07:31] <daryl_> !ldconfig
[07:31] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, daryl_
[07:31] <Jowi> peruano: "sudo apt-get build-essential" will give you a compiler and stuff
[07:31] <nox-Hand> !tea
[07:31] <ubotu> nox-Hand: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:31] <nox-Hand> !42
[07:31] <ubotu> nox-Hand: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:31] <daryl_> Does anyone know what "ldconfig" does?  I thought it was the command to reset my graphics card.  but i think I messed up my glx extensions by using it.
[07:31] <visik7> does firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu2 from dapper compile smoothly on breezy ?
[07:32] <nox-Hand>  Bah, that bot needs to read more Douglas Adams
[07:32] <peruano> whera can i get that jowi
[07:32] <gnomefreak> daryl_: i think thats a library config command
[07:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell visik7 about ff1.5
[07:32] <daryl_> gnomefreak: hrm, so that has nothing to do with my problem then... ok thanks : )
[07:33] <Centaur5> How can I mount an external usb hd with a fat32 partition?
[07:33] <peruano> highvoltage, where is that manual, under what file
[07:33] <Rotund> wims: are you on dapper or breezy?
[07:33] <Jowi> peruano: you get it with the command i just gave you. it install a compiler and all stuff you need to do at least basic compiles
[07:33] <daryl_> gnomefreak: do you know what to do when your GLX extensions are damaged?
[07:33] <wims> I'm on hoary actually
[07:33] <NoUse> Centaur5 mine just shows up on the desktop when I plug it in
[07:33] <Jowi> !build-essential
[07:33] <ubotu> [build-essential]  a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[07:33] <visik7> gnomefreak: I don't want to install the one provided by mozilla foundation
[07:33] <Jowi> !gcc
[07:33] <ubotu> it has been said that gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[07:33] <Rotund> wims: the fluendo won't work then (for gstreamer 0.10)
[07:33] <visik7> gnomefreak: I want a deb with dependancies
[07:33] <jessika> has anyone been able to run epsxe on dapper?
[07:33] <wims> Rotund, k
[07:34] <Centaur5> NoUse: Really?  That's odd, I've never had that happen with an external usb device.
[07:34] <daryl_> !glx
[07:34] <ubotu> daryl_: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:34] <gnomefreak> visik7: you should its faster than ubuntu version
[07:34] <daryl_> !extension
[07:34] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, daryl_
[07:34] <NoUse> Centaur5 you're running breezy?
[07:34] <visik7> gnomefreak: I don't need fast program I need a clean system
[07:34] <Centaur5> NoUse: Dapper, I know it's detected as /dev/sdb so I tried sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /home/user/temp but it says it doesn't exist.
[07:35] <gnomefreak> visik7: either way you have to keep your version of ff
[07:35] <Rotund> wims: you want: gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:35] <Rotund> wms: it's in universe
[07:35] <Rotund> wims that is
[07:35] <gnomefreak> its not gonna make it messy or dirty
[07:35] <visik7> gnomefreak: ok I'll compile ti
[07:35] <NoUse> Centaur5 run sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[07:35] <daryl_> gnomefreak: do you know what to do when your GLX extensions are damaged?
[07:35] <wims> Rotund, yep, i found it by doing some googling, but thanks anyway
[07:35] <gnomefreak> daryl_: nope havent run into that ever
[07:35] <Centaur5> NoUse: Was that supposed to output something?
[07:36] <NoUse> Centaur5 that outputs any partiions found on the device
[07:36] <daryl_> i'm getting a message 'extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".'
[07:36] <NoUse> Centaur5 if it doesn't output anything, it didn't find any partitions
[07:36] <Centaur5> NoUse: Well shoot, I guess it's not going to work.
[07:36] <daryl_> Anyone know how to fix the problem with extension GLX missing?
[07:36] <NoUse> Centaur5 are you sure data is on the drive?
[07:36] <visik7> Centaur5: ATI ?
[07:36] <Centaur5> NoUse: Thanks though.  I have a PC Card hd should it work the same way?
[07:37] <Jowi> daryl_: you're probably having a driver problem (not installed or wrong one installed or a non-supported video card). see !nvidia or !ati for more info
[07:37] <Centaur5> I just pulled it out of my desktop yesterday
[07:37] <highvoltage> peruano: file:///usr/share/doc/diveintopython/html/index.html
[07:37] <NoUse> Centaur5 not sure about PC Card HDs
[07:37] <highvoltage> peruano: open that in firefox
[07:37] <Centaur5> visik7: I have a nvidia video card
[07:37] <daryl_> Jowi: its a sis card.  it was working the other day, and all of a sudden stopped working.  I figure i did something to damage it.
[07:37] <visik7> Centaur5: strange
[07:37] <outlawcrook> ok i am back
[07:38] <outlawcrook> hope i got what was needed for why my xserver is not loading
[07:38] <Centaur5> NoUse: Alright, I've never been able to find anything about a pc card hd.
[07:38] <daryl_> Jowi: I followed the instructions at !xorg
[07:38] <daryl_> !xorg
[07:38] <ubotu> from memory, xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[07:38] <Centaur5> NoUse: So I have a 5 gig hd I never use  :)
[07:38] <Jowi> daryl_: ...and you are sure you're using the correct driver and chose "glx" module in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[07:38] <daryl_> hrm now that i'm not sure about.  glx module.  i'll go check
[07:39] <outlawcrook> there is this  EE Unable to find a valis frambuffer device
[07:39] <outlawcrook> EE nv(0) failed to open framebuffer device
[07:39] <Centaur5> NoUse: Well thanks for your help, I'll try plugging it into a different windows desktop.
[07:39] <Skeletonix> If I write text,in gnuplot, which is longer then one line, the text diveded into to two line(line wrapped). Yes, it's normal but I can move with cursor only in the lower line. When I hold left arrow (key) curor stops on top of the line and doesn't continue to previous one.
[07:39] <Skeletonix> 
[07:39] <Skeletonix> It's a little bit problem, allmost every instruction is longer then gnome-terminal window . Pleas, how can I fix it?				
[07:39] <peruano> highvoltage, ok
[07:40] <outlawcrook> using config file etc/xii/xorg.conf
[07:40] <peruano> how can i get the command line
[07:40] <outlawcrook> and then there is
[07:40] <Hso> peruano,  - in ubuntu?
[07:40] <peruano> yes
[07:40] <iveqy> hi, Short question just... What is the name of the NIS server package for ubuntu? I only found the client package...
[07:40] <Hso> go to Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[07:40] <gnomefreak> peruano: applications>accessories>terminal
[07:40] <Jowi> daryl_: you might need to install one of the restricted-modules packages as well to get it working. for a list of available ones: "apt-cache search -n restricted"
[07:41] <MisterN> cu
[07:41] <Madkiss> hi all; after plugging in a USB mass storage devic, where will Ubuntu mount it? /mnt/<name_of_the_volume>?
[07:41] <Dani_Filth> Hi
[07:41] <iveqy> Madkiss: no /media/
[07:41] <Jowi> Madkiss: /media
[07:41] <peruano> terminal server client
[07:41] <Madkiss> so /media/<name_of_the_volume>?
[07:41] <Dani_Filth> please someone can give me the default gtk color of GDM ?
[07:41] <outlawcrook> usr/xllr6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.0 no symbols found
[07:42] <Badman> yo
[07:42] <outlawcrook> usr/xllr6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.0 no symbols found
[07:42] <peruano> i dont have it under that
[07:42] <pyrotic> richiefrich ?
[07:42] <outlawcrook> usr/xllr6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0 no symbols found
[07:42] <Dani_Filth> :'(
[07:42] <Hso> peruano, - you must have
[07:42] <outlawcrook> does that help whyu my xserver is not starting
[07:43] <barbara> hello, can you tell me how i can know my ip address ? i'm behind a router
[07:43] <Hso> barbara,  - www.whatismyip.com tells you
[07:43] <lppcta> barbara: check the webpage for your router, it should have a status section which contains the ip address
[07:43] <peruano> no, i just have : archive manager, calculator, character map, dictionary, and text editor
[07:44] <Micke> witch progam do i use to write my code in (im trying to program some c/c++)?
[07:44] <peruano> under app/acc/
[07:44] <lppcta> micke: gcc/g++
[07:44] <outlawcrook> anyone
[07:44] <Hso> peruano,  - o.o it should be the thing above text editor.. if you don't have it... you may be using an old version of ubuntu? which version are you using?
[07:44] <outlawcrook> ????
[07:44] <daryl_> Jowi: I did the apt-cache search -n restricted command.  I am not quite sure what I am supposed to be looking for.
[07:44] <gnomefreak> Micke: for beginners i would go with anjuta or kdevelop depending what desktop your using
[07:44] <peruano> i got it now, it's under app/system tools/terminal
[07:45] <gnomefreak> peruano: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[07:45] <Jowi> daryl_: you will get a few choices of which you might want to install. it depends on the kernel you have. "uname -r" will give you the kernel you have installed
[07:45] <lppcta> gnomefreak: actually gcc is easier than using all those bloated IDE's :)
[07:45] <barbara> thanks guy, i'll try this
[07:45] <gnomefreak> lppcta: gcc doesnt write anything it compiles it
[07:45] <peruano> i got it, but it;s under acc/sys tools/terminal
[07:46] <Jowi> daryl_: but only chose one of them
[07:46] <Micke> ok, im very new here i just installed ubuntu so i dont know witch desktop im useing....
[07:46] <rosen> Hey.. While trying to install wine I got this error /home/rosen/.setup4710: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:46] <rosen>  ... What package am I in need of ? .. there is many libgtk :O
[07:46] <gnomefreak> peruano: thats why i ask what version you are on
[07:46] <lppcta> gnomfreak: oh, my bad, thought he was asking for a compiler
[07:46] <Hso> peruano,  - that's very strange.. are you using a beta of the new version?
[07:46] <_extricate_> !SSL
[07:46] <ubotu> _extricate_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:46] <peruano> let me see
[07:46] <gnomefreak> peruano: afaik breezy started putting terminal in appl;ications>accesories>terminal
[07:47] <pyrotic> Anyone know how to get aMSN sounds to work?
[07:47] <gnomefreak> peruano: uname -r
[07:47] <peruano> version 5.04
[07:47] <Hso> ah...
[07:47] <Hso> i'm using 5.10(i think)
[07:47] <gnomefreak> peruano: ok thats what i thought
[07:47] <Hso> perhaps you need to update?
[07:47] <peruano> what?
[07:47] <barbara> thought it was a page for blonde, but it seems to work :) cool
[07:47] <daryl_> Jowi: I am using Kernel: 2.6.12-10-386, according to uname command.  What do i need to do to download the item I'm needing?  I am sorry, I just don't quite understand what you were suggesitng I do.
[07:48] <gnomefreak> peruano: i would think about  upgrading to 5.10
[07:48] <peruano> how can upgrade it
[07:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell peruano about upgrade
[07:48] <outlawcrook> can someone helpp me please with getting xserver back up
[07:49] <gnomefreak> peruano: your pm will tell you and please follow the first link
[07:49] <Jowi> daryl_: the "restricted" modules may contain the xgl part for your video card. when you "apt-cache search -n restricted" do you find a package called "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386"?
[07:49] <outlawcrook> was working great at friends house till i came home and hooked upto my monitor
[07:49] <luke> how do I share a folder with a windows computer?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> outlawcrook: i would love to but you need to give me more to go on
[07:49] <outlawcrook> then tried to get it to load it
[07:49] <daryl_> Jowi: yes i do
[07:49] <blaze> does anyone know why xmms doesn't play files, that are on another pc on the network?
[07:49] <outlawcrook> what ya need
[07:49] <barbara> thanks and good evening
[07:49] <blaze> and.. i play them with totem..
[07:49] <blaze> but i want xmms :), solution?
[07:50] <Jowi> daryl_: try to install it "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386"
[07:50] <gnomefreak> outlawcrook: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure the moniter is yours not your friends
[07:50] <pyrotic> Jowi - Hey, you helped me with 'wolfet' just FYI 'nickrud' was wondering what we did.. but I forgot, also, do you know how to get it to download the maps when joining a server?.. that's my next issue.. :) -- No need to answer quick, I see your helping others, I can wait.
[07:50] <daryl_> jowi: wow didn't realize that was the package name.
[07:50] <daryl_> jowi: thank you
[07:50] <Jowi> np daryl_
[07:50] <daryl_> jowi: it says its already the newest
[07:50] <luke> how do I share a folder with a windows computer?
[07:50] <outlawcrook> yea i tried that but still comes back up after it get done and i reboot with xserver not loading
[07:50] <shylock> Hallo i tried the easyubuntuscript and checked some boxes and told it to run, a few progress bars came up and finished but nothing seems to be installed
[07:51] <gnomefreak> daryl_: are you trying for headers or source?
[07:51] <Jowi> daryl_: then I don't know what is going on. :-/
[07:51] <daryl_> gnomefreak: pls rephrase the question?
[07:51] <james_> can anyone anwser a quick question for me
[07:51] <outlawcrook> anyway i can get to the log file and that drive from in XP pro
[07:51] <rosen> libgtk-1.2.so.0 ... can anyone tell me what package that is part of ?
[07:51] <daryl_> jowi: well thanks for the valiant try : )
[07:51] <gnomefreak> daryl_: are you looking for kernel source or kernel headers or kernel restrictedd modules?
[07:51] <james_> with ubuntu do i want to dl rpm files or tgz files
[07:51] <pyrotic> !ask
[07:51] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[07:51] <Jowi> pyrotic: we installed the correct drivers, modules and enabled dri and glx and stuff
[07:52] <gnomefreak> james_: try to find .deb files please
[07:52] <Jowi> :)
[07:52] <blaze> does anyone know why xmms doesn't play files, that are on another pc on the network?
[07:52] <blaze> and.. i play them with totem..
[07:52] <daryl_> gnomefreak: dunno.  I was just trying to follow Jowi's suggestion.  what I'm trying to do is resolve the error message 'extension GLX missing on display'
[07:52] <nightshift> yes .deb is better... rpm is for redhat
[07:52] <james_> the programe i am useing does not have .deb files
[07:52] <blaze> but i want xmms :), solution?
[07:52] <pyrotic> Jowi ah, alright..
[07:52] <gnomefreak> james_: give me an idea on what app your looking for maybe i can help you find one
[07:52] <luke> how do I share a folder with a windows computer?
[07:52] <james_> it is called echolinux
[07:52] <gnomefreak> daryl_: oh ok
[07:52] <james_> it is the linux ver of echolink
[07:52] <nightshift> you can still convert it with alien though
[07:52] <james_> for ham radio stuff
[07:52] <james_> VoIP type communications
[07:52] <pyrotic> james_ http://www.google.com : your best resource...
[07:52] <mlehrer> luke: install samba on the linux machine, and the windows machine should be able to connect to it
[07:53] <gnomefreak> nightshift: not really recommeneded
[07:53] <pyrotic> sbalneav wb
[07:53] <daryl_> Does anyone else know what would cause a 'extension GLX missing on display' message?
[07:53] <james_> but will rpm and tgz files work
[07:53] <nightshift> no i know... but if you've got no choice...
[07:53] <jramsey> luke, right click folder in file browser and select Samba but mlehrer is right u need Samba installed
[07:53] <rosen> /home/rosen/.setup5060: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0:  cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:53] <nightshift> however that hardly ever occurs.
[07:53] <pyrotic> james_ tgz files will work if you unzip them and follow the install file..
[07:53] <gnomefreak> daryl_: i think that is the drivers for video card that causies that error make sure your drivers are install properly
[07:54] <Jowi> pyrotic: about the maps, i actually don't know. i think that when you join certain games it may download them automatically. some servers do not allow that so you need to download the maps yourself at one of the sites ( http://returntocastlewolfenstein.filefront.com/files/Wolfenstein_Enemy_Territory/Maps/Objective;2659 )
[07:54] <james_> ok...i can wiki the ubuntu page as far as to unzip a tgz right
[07:54] <gnomefreak> rosen: install libgtk-1,2-dev
[07:54] <jessika> i get an error while trying to run a program: "error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file"
[07:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell james_ about compile
[07:54] <jessika> libncurses.so.5 is linked to libncurses.so.5.5
[07:55] <pyrotic> Jowi see, I downloaded a bunch of maps and put them in the 'etmain' but it doesn't seem to let me join, and it trys to download them, but I don't think it see's a correct directory to download to... and I'm not sure what one that would be...if I have ot make it or not..
[07:55] <daryl_> gnomefreak: how do i do that?  my understanding is I do the instructions in !xorg to change a driver.  am I misunderstanding how you install a driver?
[07:55] <rosen> gnomefreak, ah ok I'll try that thanks!
[07:55] <Jowi> jessika: "sudo apt-get install libncurses5" should fix that (hopefully)
[07:55] <gnomefreak> jessika: look for the -dev file of that library please
[07:55] <james_> !compile
[07:55] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[07:55] <gnomefreak> daryl_: what vc do you have?
[07:55] <luke> jramsey, I haev samba installed when I right click on the folder and click share it works fine, but how do I connect form a windows comp?
[07:55] <james_> thanks gnomefreak
[07:55] <daryl_> gnomefreak: not sure what vc means
[07:55] <jessika> ok, i dont have to remove 5.5 then?
[07:55] <gnomefreak> Jowi: im thinking the -dev has teh .so
[07:56] <gnomefreak> vc=video card
[07:56] <daryl_> gnomefreak: oh video card.. um one second.  its a sis built on
[07:56] <jramsey> luke, which version of windows
[07:56] <luke> jramsey, WinXP home
[07:56] <ompaul> james_, if you have installed universe then do this in a teminal >> sudo apt-cache search ham | grep radio << you might get better functionality and you should look for source not rpms (too much information :-))
[07:56] <peruano> jowi, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[07:56] <peruano> this ask me for a paswword
[07:56] <daryl_> gnomefreak: Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS Default Card
[07:56] <my-style> know everyone a german irc channel
[07:56] <james_> ompaul_ thanks
[07:56] <Jowi> pyrotic: my comp is too crappy to run ET well so I sort of never looked into it much. But I did get it to work :)
[07:57] <gnomefreak> peruano: no s
[07:57] <my-style> speak everyone german
[07:57] <Jowi> peruano: try your normal password
[07:57] <gnomefreak> peruano: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:57] <ompaul> !de
[07:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[07:57] <gnomefreak> peruano: use your user password
[07:57] <rosen> gnomefreak, worked like a charm .. thanks alot !
[07:57] <mlehrer> dual head video in linux just sucks doesn't it
[07:57] <peruano> ok
[07:57] <ompaul> mlehrer, no
[07:57] <gnomefreak> rosen: yw
[07:57] <pyrotic> Jowi Ah, well crap anyways.. :P... I'll keep workin' on it... if you see richiefrich around, tell him I was lookin' for him...take care
[07:57] <ompaul> mlehrer, but it is not well documented
[07:57] <Micke> what is the the comando for showing all directorys (like dir in dos)?
[07:57] <Jowi> cy pyrotic
[07:58] <Badman> what applican we can use to read rmvb?
[07:58] <gnomefreak> jessika: your gonna need the libncurses-dev package iirc
[07:58] <Badman> application*
[07:58] <gnomefreak> Micke: dir
[07:58] <mlehrer> ompaul: that is an understatement.  apparently it is impossible to have them be different resolutions, and there isn't a window manager in existance that deals with them nicely
[07:58] <daryl_> gnomefreak: Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS Default Card
[07:58] <outlawcrook> ok i just pulled the log file of the drive can i send it to you Gnomefreak?
[07:58] <ompaul> Micke, you really don't want to look at hundreds of files you have no idea about >> ls -R / <<
[07:58] <gnomefreak> !sis
[07:58] <ubotu> gnomefreak: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:59] <mlehrer> i can't tell you how much it annoys me to watch the windows & mac users here just mindlessly plug in a second screen, and watch it work beautifully
[07:59] <mlehrer> !#%&!%%$#
[07:59] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mlehrer
[07:59] <gnomefreak> ompaul: you know anything about sis video cards?
[07:59] <Badman> me too i have SiS, do you have sis drivers daryl_ ?
[07:59] <peruano> it's look like the keyboard is not responding
[07:59] <jessika> ok, i'll try that
[07:59] <jessika> thanks
[07:59] <daryl_> badman: no clue
[07:59] <peruano> when i type the password
[07:59] <Jowi> peruano: that is a safety feature
[07:59] <Badman> i can't play ET just because of this card :(
[07:59] <daryl_> badman: this was working fine till yesterday... then all of a sudden died, not sure what I did to it
[07:59] <ompaul> mlehrer, please see the source :-) if you really want to do that - maybe some xen kludge and something else would help but only if your a dev
[08:00] <serp> mlehrer: swich to windows
[08:00] <Badman> (ET: Enemy Territory)
[08:00] <jessika> "libncurses5-dev is already the newest version"
[08:00] <peruano> ok, so i got to disable it
[08:00] <doc__> Hallo World!
[08:00] <gnomefreak> jessika: what was the error again
[08:00] <Micke> what is the comando for deleting a file?
[08:00] <Badman> daryl_, else you know with what software can we read rmvb (except real player)
[08:00] <gnomefreak> ?
[08:00] <Jowi> peruano: no. you need to get used to it. :) type your password normally and press enter and it will work fine
[08:01] <jessika>  error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:01] <sbalneav> Micke: rm <filename>
[08:01] <ompaul> mlehrer, you could hit the mail list for ubuntu https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[08:01] <peruano> ok
[08:01] <sbalneav> or, drag it to the trash in Nautilus.
[08:01] <jessika> i have a file called libncurses.so.5, but it is juats a link to 5.5
[08:01] <gnomefreak> jessika: ok give me a sec
[08:01] <daryl_> gnomefreak: you asked what VC i have.  it is a Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS Default Card
[08:02] <peruano> yessss
[08:02] <gnomefreak> daryl_: yes i know i was asking if ompaul knew anything about them because i dont have a clue
[08:02] <citron> hi guys
[08:02] <daryl_> gnomefreak: ah my bad thanks : )
[08:02] <citron> i miss you.
[08:02] <citron> no, i don't miss you.
[08:02] <citron> lol
[08:02] <gnomefreak> jessika: that should do it
[08:03] <ompaul> gnomefreak, ,missed that
[08:03] <daryl_> gnomefreak: i think i've been using xserver-xorg-driver-siliconmotion
[08:03] <gnomefreak> its all good ompaul
[08:03] <jenda> How can I display a block of text which has been messed up by inappropriate char encoding the right way?
[08:03] <ompaul> k
[08:03] <ompaul> jenda, utf8 ?
[08:03] <peruano> ok, it's processing my old cd
[08:05] <jenda> ompaul: I'd think so... it would be between UTF-8 and ISO-8xxx-2
[08:05] <outlawcrook> gnomefreak i also get this   usr/share/xll/fonts/cyrillic does not exist and
[08:05] <Bizzeh> hey, how would i enable universe from test mode
[08:05] <outlawcrook> gnomefreak i also get this   usr/share/xll/fonts/cid does not exist
[08:05] <jessika> i'll try uninstalling it first with synaptic
[08:06] <zboost> hi guys
[08:06] <Seveas> !java
[08:06] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:06] <Seveas> !javadebs
[08:06] <gnomefreak> outlawcrook: that i dont know about
[08:06] <zboost> can someone help me with port forwarding -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177599
[08:06] <Seveas> !+javadebs
[08:06] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:06] <outlawcrook> ok
[08:06] <outlawcrook> Laugh Out Loud
[08:06] <outlawcrook> enough time for the 5th install
[08:06] <outlawcrook> :(
[08:06] <outlawcrook> wish i could save those 145 updates though
[08:06] <outlawcrook> :)
[08:06] <ompaul> outlawcrook, burn them onto a CD
[08:07] <ompaul> outlawcrook, got a CD
[08:07] <outlawcrook> yea
[08:07] <gnomefreak> outlawcrook: is it stpping the updates?
[08:07] <daryl_> anyone else have a suggestion about 'extension GLX missing on display' error message?
[08:07] <outlawcrook> no my isp will slow me down if i download to much to fast
[08:07] <bluefoxicy> I have a question, why is it when I copy from one machine to another using ssh in nautilus it freezes.
[08:08] <sbalneav> outlawcrook: look in /var/cache/apt/archives.
[08:08] <ompaul> outlawcrook, have you got k3b or gnomebaker?
[08:08] <AngryElf1> hey guys, what device are external usb hard drives? and where do they get automounted?
[08:08] <paniq> how do i install fonts the easy way in ubuntu?
[08:09] <outlawcrook> ok there is 677 files in there
[08:09] <jramsey> luke, i havent forgotten ... am trying this out
[08:09] <outlawcrook> save them all
[08:09] <outlawcrook> ?
[08:09] <MystaMax> hello, are there any instructions on how to change the resolution from the terminal? w/o loading X???
[08:09] <ompaul> !resolution
[08:09] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:09] <luke> jramsey, thanks
[08:09] <MenZa> ompaul: that's about fixing it
[08:09] <MenZa> Not setting it
[08:09] <MystaMax> ompaul: was that directed @ me?
[08:10] <ompaul> MenZa, you can set useing the same method, assuming it has been set, he said "how to change the resolution from the terminal"
[08:10] <sbalneav> paniq: I beleive you can just drop .ttf files in $HOME/.fonts directory.
[08:10] <ompaul> MystaMax, yeap
[08:10] <jramsey> luke, go here and read about Samba ... it seems straightforward ... i am trying it as well   http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[08:10] <MystaMax> ompaul: thx, looking over it now
[08:10] <luke> jramsey, ta
[08:10] <ompaul> MystaMax, if that fails, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:10] <sbalneav> outlawcrook: Look for the newer ones.  The .debs there will be base+upgrades
[08:11] <zboost> can someone help me with port forwarding -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177599 iptables doesn't works
[08:11] <DarkJesus> Is ubuntu more up to date than debian then?
[08:12] <luke> jramsey, would I be correct in supposing that there is not much diifference between using samba on 5.10 or on 6.06
[08:13] <gnomefreak> debain what and ubuntu what?
[08:13] <jramsey> luke, yeah i would say so ... am about to try this
[08:13] <luke> jramsey, kk
[08:13] <DarkJesus> Is ubuntu more up to date than debian?
[08:14] <Minty> Helo, Have mounted the partition NTSF  /dev/hda1 using system, admin, disks but how do I find and see the disk and files as woul like to get some of my win files from it
[08:14] <jramsey> luke,  ok it works
[08:14] <jramsey> luke, i'll paste to bin what i did ... just a sec
[08:14] <soundray> DarkJesus: the distributions have diverged sufficiently to make it impossible to answer your question.
[08:15] <kevor> Minty: if it is mounted, you can find it in the Places->Computer screen
[08:15] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! Please, help me! I wrote a long E-Mail in Konqueror, then I minimalized the window on the panel, but I cannot see it there. How can I see the opened programs in Gnome under Dapper?
[08:15] <DarkJesus> What's that mean to mean?
[08:15] <jramsey> !pastebin
[08:15] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:15] <DarkJesus> My question is, does ubuntu have more recent package versions than debian stable?
[08:15] <soundray> DarkJesus: I guess if you want ultra-bleeding-edge, you will want Debian sid, and not Ubuntu dapper in its current late beta stage.
[08:16] <DarkJesus> Debian sid messed up for me
[08:16] <jramsey> luke, here ya go http://pastebin.ca/56280
[08:16] <sbalneav> DarkJesus: Sometimes yes, sometimes no
[08:16] <soundray> DarkJesus: definitely more up to date than Debian stable.
[08:16] <minimec> ltibor65: <ctrl><tab>
[08:16] <jramsey> luke, in winxp explorer, map a network driver ... then right-click the ubuntu icon in the tree and select explore
[08:16] <sbalneav> DarkJesus: Well, debian sid IS the unstable branch, so that's not too surprising.
[08:16] <jramsey> then enter ur username u setup for samba per the pastebin
[08:17] <Minty> Kevor am running French version and newbie, Places->Computer screen I can find that where ?
[08:17] <DarkJesus> Yeah, I know
[08:17] <jramsey> and presto there's a treeview in the leftpane with ur ubuntu folders
[08:17] <DarkJesus> It makes sense
[08:18] <peruano> hey guys, my gcc kernel  was compiled with gcc 3.3.5 and my gcc compiler is version 3.3
[08:18] <kevor> Minty: press Alt-F2 then type "computer:///" (without the quotes)
[08:19] <Minty> Kevor done that now what ?
[08:19] <MystaMax> my linux admin @ my job, says that I should always set up root w/ a password, which i haven't done, is this correct?
[08:19] <kevor> Minty: did you get a screen with Filesystem and CD drives in it?
[08:19] <Minty> yes
[08:19] <kevor> isn't your NTFS drive there?
[08:19] <soundray> MystaMax: Ubuntu follows a different philosophy.
[08:19] <bbrazil> MystaMax: not on ubuntu. /msg ubotu rootsudo
[08:19] <chowells> MystaMax: yes, root is disabled. Used sudo
[08:20] <Minty> or rather lots of folder; Dev, sys; opt etc
[08:20] <soundray> MystaMax: sudo is safer.
[08:20] <kevor> that's not the "computer:///" screen
[08:20] <MystaMax> he mention something about running apache, and accessing files under apache
[08:20] <kevor> you clicked something
[08:20] <MystaMax> all my permissions are set up as user root group root for apache
[08:21] <MystaMax> good or bad
[08:21] <bbrazil> MystaMax: depends on how you plan on using it
[08:21] <MystaMax> can u give small examples...
[08:21] <MystaMax> please
[08:22] <jramsey> MystaMax, if u get tired of entering sudo passwords, add the following line to /etc/sudoers 'your username' ALL= NOPASSWD:ALL
[08:22] <soundray> MystaMax: did you install apache from the repositories?
[08:22] <Minty> Kevor ok whent back one step, have dvd drive and systeme de fichiier icons
[08:22] <Micke> What do i need to use "cout <<" in my c/c++ program?
[08:22] <soundray> jramsey: you can't just do it like that
[08:23] <kevor> Minty: are you sure you have succesfully mounted the NTFS drive? if not, do the Alt-F2 thingy again, type "gnome-terminal" then type in the screen you get "mount" then press enter
[08:23] <jramsey> soundray, what else is needed? that seems to work for me
[08:23] <james_> ok i read the wiki but it talks about a tar.gz file the file i d/l is a tgz file how to i open it so i can install it
[08:23] <kevor> ubotu: tell Minty about pastebin
[08:23] <MystaMax> soundray: yes
[08:23] <carlos_> Hi?
[08:24] <kevor> Minty: paste the output of the "mount" command there please
[08:24] <roni_> mnnmmm
[08:24] <soundray> jramsey: normally you can't just edit sudoers -- you have to use visudo or something.
[08:24] <roni_> bnbnnnnhjjjj
[08:24] <jramsey> soundray, i did "sudo gedit /etc/sudoers" then added the cmd ... i no longer have to enter passwords for things like apt-get install
[08:24] <MystaMax> soundray: yes i did install from repositories
[08:25] <soundray> james_: tgz and tar.gz means the same thing -- both can be opened with tar zxf
[08:25] <soundray> MystaMax: that's fine then. Stick with the default owners&permissions
[08:26] <Minty> kevor http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14128
[08:26] <MystaMax> great tips thanks guys
[08:26] <Minty> Never done that before so hope I did it right
[08:26] <james_> thank you
[08:27] <kevor> Minty: good going, you pick up fast ;)
[08:27] <Minty> :)
[08:28] <kevor> ok, type this: sudo umount /dev/hda1 && sudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows && nautilus /media/windows/
[08:28] <kevor> Minty: in a console that is (the gnome-terminal you just ran with Alt-f2)
[08:29] <Minty> done says umount: /: periphrique occup
[08:29] <Minty> , means occupied
[08:29] <kevor> hmm
[08:29] <kevor> yes, i thought that might happen, i think (not sure though) you used an incorrect mountpoint
[08:30] <vOmpatti> Hello
[08:30] <kevor> Minty: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs follow this guide and reboot :P then it should be good
[08:30] <kevor> Minty: you can litterally follow it since your ntfs drive is hda1 :P
[08:31] <Minty> kevor reading brb :) and thanks
[08:32] <vOmpatti> mm
[08:32] <kevor> Minty: np, please msg me if your done ^^
[08:32] <vOmpatti> Could anyone tell me which ati drivers work on ubuntu :D
[08:32] <soundray> Minty: you won't get out of the current situation until you reboot. Just thought I'd throw that in...
[08:32] <vOmpatti> Im a noobie so.
[08:32] <soundray> !tell vOmpatti about ati
[08:33] <soundray> vOmpatti: look out for a message that ubotu sent you
[08:33] <vOmpatti> Oh, thanks :D
[08:34] <whyami> how do I install the dummy alsa driver?
[08:34] <GaiaX11> Where can i find why they gave the names warty, hoary and breezy for Ubuntu?
[08:35] <vOmpatti> soundray could you tell me that should i even install ubuntu of any distr. if i have ati's card ? :s cause many people say that its not so clever.
[08:35] <vOmpatti> Or could anyone tell me :D
[08:35] <GaiaX11> Any help?
[08:36] <soundray> GaiaX11: search the web for those terms along with SABDFL
[08:36] <soundray> vOmpatti: ubuntu is as good with ATI as any other distribution, I'd say.
[08:36] <GaiaX11> Thanks. I will go there
[08:37] <vOmpatti> soundray but is it ok for me to install ubuntu with ati's card ? :D
[08:37] <soundray> vOmpatti: ATI isn't exactly the most supportive company with regard to free driver development, which is why they have a certain reputation
[08:37] <soundray> vOmpatti: but you will probably be just fine.
[08:38] <vOmpatti> Okay.
[08:38] <soundray> vOmpatti: what card have you got?
[08:38] <vOmpatti> Thanks for your help :)
[08:38] <vOmpatti> x800
[08:38] <soundari> hi
[08:38] <vOmpatti> I just checked that howto ati thing and what it said it should support my card
[08:38] <soundray> vOmpatti: do you need 3D acceleration?
[08:38] <vOmpatti> Well i hope i can install wow :b
[08:38] <soundari> i'm french
[08:38] <vOmpatti> and play tux racer ! :)
[08:39] <soundray> vOmpatti: in that case you should probably install the fglrx drivers once you're set up.
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> where does iptables store its rules?
[08:39] <FliesLikeABrick> fyrestrtr  you have to use iptables-restore and iptables-save to do it for iptables
[08:39] <FliesLikeABrick> it isn't done automatically
[08:40] <soundray> vOmpatti: for basic desktop use, Ubuntu will work out of the box with your card.
[08:40] <FliesLikeABrick> use those commands to dump/read to/from files
[08:40] <chrish01> anyone else have issues installing the new sun java packages?
[08:40] <Most_Wanted> probably
[08:41] <vOmpatti> soundray mm okay. I think im gonna come back here to whine about those after i've got it set up :] 
[08:41] <Most_Wanted> you're never alone chrish01
[08:41] <Most_Wanted> :P
[08:41] <mnob07> what are kernel-headers and development tools? I'm a newb.
[08:41] <soundray> vOmpatti: are you installing for the first time?
[08:41] <chrish01> id like to just uninstall them for the time being, but i cant seem to figure out how since they are in limbo
[08:41] <chrish01> dying during --unpack
[08:42] <Minty> Kevor you are the man, many thanks :)
[08:42] <basesoft> hi all
[08:42] <soundray> mnob07: those are things that you may need when you write and/or compile software, specifically kernel modules.
[08:42] <basesoft> I have Radeon card. I connected the monitor to the DVI output. I would like to connect the VGA output to the TV via RGB-SCART connector
[08:43] <basesoft> I set up the PAL timing under the WINDOWS as an extended desktop with the PowerStrip
[08:43] <basesoft> It is working perfectly with great picture quality. I would like to do it under the LINUX, but I dont know the X configuration.
[08:43] <basesoft> Could you please help me?
[08:44] <mnob07> soundray: oh I'm trying to get my Linksys wusb54g working on ubuntu... the first step is to "make sure you have your kernel-headers and development tools installed"
[08:44] <mnob07> I'm getting direction off of this post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170017&highlight=WUSB54G
[08:44] <FliesLikeABrick> basesoft if nobody can help you right away with that, you may be better off asking a question like that on the ubuntu forums or www.linuxquestions.org
[08:44] <pkiddie> hi
[08:44] <soundray> basesoft, have you found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Radeon7500TVOut ? It may be possible to adapt for your card.
[08:44] <mnob07> more specifically here: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Rt2x00drivers
[08:45] <pkiddie> someone suggested i use ubuntu how different is it from debian? it is based off debian correct?
[08:45] <FliesLikeABrick> correct pkiddie
[08:45] <FliesLikeABrick> pkiddie  it is debian, but adapted to everyday desktop use.  The best way to find out exactly what it is is by trying out ubuntu for yourself
[08:45] <FliesLikeABrick> we cannot sit here and list every difference for you
[08:45] <soundray> mnob07: if your card has an rt2570 chipset, and you are on Ubuntu breezy, it should work out of the box
[08:45] <james_> can someone tell me how to install something after i do the tar  with a tgz file
[08:45] <pkiddie> FliesLikeABrick yeah thanks. will do.
[08:46] <basesoft> RGB is better picture quality
[08:46] <soundray> mnob07: no need to mess with headers and dev tools.
[08:46] <FliesLikeABrick> james_ what are you trying to install?
[08:46] <FliesLikeABrick> james_ if it is something that is available in apt, you'd be better off using apt to install it
[08:46] <james_> echolinux
[08:46] <james_> no it is not
[08:46] <james_> it is thirdparty
[08:46] <FliesLikeABrick> but if you're installing from a source tarball, usually you use configure first
[08:46] <FliesLikeABrick> then make, and make install
[08:46] <mnob07> how can i tell if I'm ubuntu breezy? and do you mean just plug it in and go or out-of-the-box i can install it?
[08:47] <james_> ok how do i do the config
[08:47] <FliesLikeABrick> james_  do ./configure --help in the extracted directory
[08:47] <james_> ok
[08:47] <FliesLikeABrick> mnob07 when did you install ubuntu and from what?
[08:47] <FliesLikeABrick> you are most likely using ubuntu breezy
[08:47] <mnob07> just yesterday... I got the install i386 from the most seeded torrent I saw :/
[08:47] <james_> there is not help file for it
[08:48] <mnob07> *iso
[08:48] <kevor> Minty: no problem, glad to be of service :P
[08:48] <FliesLikeABrick> james_ does "configure" exist in that folder?
[08:48] <james_> let me look
[08:48] <FliesLikeABrick> james_  look for a README or INSTALL file in that folder if configure is ont there
[08:48] <FliesLikeABrick> not*
[08:48] <FliesLikeABrick> mnob07  then you most likely have breezy
[08:48] <james_> no but make file does
[08:48] <FliesLikeABrick> james_ try doing "make && make install"
[08:48] <james_> ok there is a readme file
[08:48] <james_> ok
[08:48] <FliesLikeABrick> k james_  follow the readme
[08:48] <daryl_> I'm trying to install a SIS driver from source.  It says to cd into my debian folder and run 'debian/rules build', to create makefiles, convert font files, etc.  I'm not sure what it means.  could someone clarify?
[08:49] <james_> the make worked
[08:49] <james_> thanks
[08:49] <soundray> mnob07: do you see a wlan0 or rausb0 interface when you enter 'ifconfig -a' in a terminal?
[08:49] <vOmpatti> soundray no im not :) i've had few distrobutions
[08:50] <visik7> anyone have try to compile debs of firefox from dapper to breezy ? please don't replay with newerfirefox wiki page
[08:50] <braniff> what is the status of 64bit windows media codecs for linux ??
[08:50] <soundray> vOmpatti: ubuntu installation is fairly easy. Just stay away from the LVM option.
[08:50] <vOmpatti> I know :b
[08:50] <vOmpatti> I've had ubuntu once too
[08:50] <soundray> !tell visik7 about ff1.5
[08:51] <daryl_> I'm trying to install SIS drivers from source.  but I dont' see a config file.  anyone have a suggestion?
[08:51] <vOmpatti> Wee
[08:51] <vOmpatti> Now i have ubuntu 5.something install cd :)
[08:51] <visik7> soundray: I'm not asking how to install firefox with the wiki guide
[08:51] <visik7> soundray: I'm asking if someone had try to compile 1.5 of dapper on breezy
[08:52] <soundray> visik7: I know, but why would you want to do that, rather than following the wiki or upgrading to dapper?
[08:52] <Spec> you don't compile debs
[08:52] <vOmpatti> soundray next question. Is it hard to get tahoma and such fonts work ? :D truetype i mean
[08:52] <Spec> you install debs, compile source, ...
[08:52] <mnob07> soundray: I just plugged the device in and rebooted so I'll see
[08:52] <visik7> Spec: I mean compile sources that generate debs
[08:53] <soundray> vOmpatti: very easy, you just have to install the msttcorefonts package:
[08:53] <soundray> !info msttcorefonts
[08:53] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[08:53] <vOmpatti> Okay
[08:53] <vOmpatti> I will ask that later :)
[08:53] <visik7> soundray: 'couse I don't want to mess my installation with software not debianized
[08:53] <vOmpatti> Now i think im ready to start the installation
[08:53] <shylock> i just ran automatix and half of the things supposed to be installed didnt install, is that common?
[08:53] <vOmpatti> See you all laters !
[08:54] <visik7> and dapper isn't in stable (e.g. too many updates per day)
[08:54] <Spec> so build your own .deb from firefox source....
[08:54] <visik7> Spec: grrr... I'm asking if somebody elese try to do it
[08:54] <jacksparrow> 'hi all
[08:54] <daryl_> I'm trying to install SIS driver from source, and don't understand instructions.  someone have a moment to look?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14129
[08:55] <_Ads_> Hi all, can someone please help? I've just installed ubuntu on my PC and when i login it doesn't load the desktop just the background and mouse cursor are visible :( please help
[08:55] <soundray> Hi Captain ;)
[08:55] <jacksparrow> :D
[08:55] <jacksparrow> Hi soundray
[08:55] <jacksparrow> Which application can I use on gnome that as like as kmobiletools?
[08:55] <Spec> visik7: well, once you do it, you can just hold a conversation with yourself about it, right?
[08:55] <rambo3> daryl_: /usr/src/ is source dir
[08:55] <visik7> ...
[08:56] <jacksparrow> Because kmobiletools can use kaddressbook, but I don't like it.
[08:56] <soundray> jacksparrow: gnokii perhaps?
[08:56] <daryl_> rambo3: do you understand what the instructions were saying to do?
[08:56] <visik7> stpdsshl
[08:56] <jacksparrow> soundray, Ok, but my mobile phone sony ericsson t610...
[08:56] <_Ads_> can someone please help? I've just installed ubuntu on my PC and when i login it doesn't load the desktop just the background and mouse cursor are visible :( please help
[08:56] <jacksparrow> :-(
[08:57] <jacksparrow> soundray, any idea?
[08:57] <rambo3> you need x.org source i guess
[08:57] <Arrick> whaddup everbody
[08:57] <_JuDgEn_> wich one of theese should i use on breezy? (2.6.12-9) http://www.bootsplash.org/dload.html
[08:57] <soundray> jacksparrow: not really... tried apt-cache search ericsson mobile ?
[08:57] <daryl_> ramob3: i'm just trying to install new drivers for my video card.  have i gone to the wrong location?
[08:58] <DaSkreec1> Ho  do I get Printing across the network setup in an easy type manner?
[08:58] <soundray> _Ads_: can you do a Ctrl-Alt-F1 and login on the text console?
[08:58] <spatialcow> hello. how do i change the resolution and refreshrater under consolemode?
[08:58] <_Ads_> soundray lemme try
[08:58] <Arrick> daryl_, CUPS
[08:58] <Arrick> !cups
[08:58] <ubotu> somebody said cups was The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[08:58] <Arrick> !res
[08:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, res is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:58] <_Ads_> soundray: no i cannot :(
[08:59] <daryl_> arrick.  i'm not trying to run cups... i just want to fix my video driver.
[08:59] <rambo3> daryl_: i guess not . pickup xorg source from their homepage and this sis source and just fallow  rest of the instructions
[08:59] <soundray> spatialcow: use 'vga=ask' as a kernel option, then try out the options it gives you at boot
[08:59] <mnob07> soundray: I do not see either wlan0 or rausb0 when I entered 'ifconfig -a' in the terminal
[08:59] <rambo3> or check synatpic/apt if there is source of xorg
[08:59] <Arrick> sorry, that was for DaSkreec1
[08:59] <DaSkreec1> Arrick: point at me :-)
[08:59] <soundray> spatialcow: or read framebuffer docs
[08:59] <imonkey> hello, i would like to extract .rar files but when i try to download rar i get E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[08:59] <Arrick> yeah I know
[08:59] <soundray> mnob07: do you see your card when you enter 'lsusb'?
[08:59] <DaSkreec1> Arrick: so no bouncing ball ?
[09:00] <Arrick> nope
[09:00] <soundray> _Ads_, what happens when you try?
[09:00] <GaiaX11> I did not find in the web an explanation why these strange names for ubuntu: Hoary; Warty; and Breezy. Onyone could point me a site where i could read about these issues?
[09:00] <_Ads_> soundray: i cant get into the console even with ctrl-alt-f1
[09:00] <_Ads_> soundray: nothing at all
[09:00] <soundray> _Ads_: can you boot in recovery mode?
[09:00] <_Ads_> soundray: how would i go about doing that?
[09:01] <GaiaX11> Debian took its names after the cartoon Toy story and ubuntu?
[09:01] <lazzarello> I'm looking for a howto for installing flash with firefox and AMD64
[09:01] <jacksparrow> soundray, thanks, the best idea gnome-phone-manager.
[09:01] <Arrick> ohgod give me a break
[09:01] <jacksparrow> soundray, thanks all
[09:01] <jacksparrow> Bye, the captain goes
[09:01] <jacksparrow> bye
[09:01] <tech_> how do I give one user admin rigths on a map? something in terminal aint it sudo ..... anything?
[09:01] <DaSkreec1> lazzarello: there is no flash for 64
[09:02] <soundray> _Ads_: select the second option from the grub menu when you boot
[09:02] <mnob07> soundray: I'm not sure... I see 'ID 046d:c0ld Logitech, Inc.' which is probably my usb mouse plugged into the same usb card to it... and I see 'ID 1915:2234' but I don't know what that is
[09:02] <lazzarello> I read about installing it in a 32bit chroot...
[09:02] <soundray> GaiaX11: perhaps this forum post explains some of it:
[09:02] <soundray> !forums 20381
[09:02] <lazzarello> but I can't find that page
[09:02] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 20381 is: Next Release Codename + Mascot Competition - Ubuntu Forums
[09:02] <s|k> acan one open up .chm files on linux?
[09:02] <_Ads_> soundray: i didn't instal the grub menu stupid me.............................
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> mnob07: what does lspci -vv tell you?
[09:02] <lazzarello> s|k, maybe, apt-cache search chm
[09:02] <soundray> _Ads_: what did you install as a boot manager?
[09:03] <tech_> !ubotu admin
[09:03] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tech_
[09:03] <s|k> lazzarello: thanks
[09:03] <patrick_king> how do i install my sweex blutooth usb dobgle
[09:03] <patrick_king> dongle*
[09:03] <soundray> tech_: cafuego looks after the bot
[09:03] <_Ads_> soundray: nothing
[09:03] <_JuDgEn_> where can i get winetools?
[09:03] <Arrick> !wine
[09:03] <shylock> how do i install ati drivers so i can have full screen resolution?
[09:03] <_JuDgEn_> !wine
[09:03] <tech_> !Mittens sudo
[09:03] <ubotu> tech_: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> !ATI
[09:03] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:03] <patrick_king> !bluetooth
[09:03] <ubotu> I guess bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[09:04] <soundray> _Ads_: observe the boot up messages. It probably says at some point "Hit Esc for grub menu" or sth to that effect.
[09:04] <Arrick> _JuDgEn_, did ubotu msg yu about it?
[09:04] <_Ads_> soundray: oh wait i think i saw something when i booted, gave me about 3 seconds to press the button lol
[09:04] <_Ads_> soundray: yea, sorry
[09:04] <tech_> how do I give one user admin rigths on a map? something in terminal aint it sudo ..... anything?
[09:04] <soundray> _Ads_: if you press key down, the timeout is paused.
[09:04] <_Ads_> soundray: ok thanks
[09:04] <soundray> _Ads_: I mean the down arrow
[09:05] <_Ads_> soundray: ok booting into recovery mode now dude
[09:05] <lazzarello> 32bit Macromedia Flash on 64bit ubuntu? Is this possible?
[09:05] <mnob07> lspci -vv shows me a lot of stufff... I see the chipset, integrated video, integrated sound, the ethernet card, the usb 2.0 card... no Linksys though
[09:05] <Jowi> tech_: the file you need to add that user in is /etc/sudoers
[09:06] <soundray> lazzarello: not here.
[09:06] <Jowi> tech_: or you add that user to the admin group
[09:06] <DaSkreec1> Arrick: OK I've started the cups daemon so I should have a http://localhost:631 page right?
[09:06] <mnob07> *that was to fyrestrtr
[09:06] <lazzarello> soundray, you tried?
[09:06] <soundray> lazzarello: yes.
[09:06] <Arrick> yeah
[09:06] <lazzarello> what was the problem?
[09:06] <War> Hi how can I  remap a key to run a script ??
[09:06] <_Ads_> soundray: ok in recovery mode now i think................. is it command line based cos i am at a prompt which says root@ads:~#
[09:07] <soundray> lazzarello: you can install 32bit firefox binaries from mozilla.org, then it'll work
[09:07] <tech_> Jovi: I cant open that file
[09:07] <shylock> but i dont think i need to use binarydrivers for my ati card. I dont need 3d acceleration only support for 1600x1200, where can i find info on how to installe the open source ones?
[09:07] <lazzarello> oh shit! are these binaries in the Dapper repository?
[09:07] <soundray> _Ads_: yes. Try 'tail -n 20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log' to see what the X server logged before the system froze.
[09:07] <Jowi> tech_: you need to use sudo"
[09:07] <Jowi> tech_: you need to use "sudo"
[09:07] <_Ads_> soundray: ok doing now
[09:08] <soundray> _Ads_: anything that makes sense?
[09:08] <_Ads_> soundray: yes
[09:08] <soundray> lazzarello: no, that's why I say from mozilla.org. There is a wiki guide...
[09:08] <lazzarello> soundray, right on.
[09:08] <DaSkreec1> Arrick: Grrr
[09:08] <Arrick> what?
[09:09] <robokop> hmm
[09:09] <Arrick> I am not  dog to be growled at
[09:09] <_Ads_> soundray: i have a lot of "warning: font renderer for '.pmf' already registered at priority 0"            what do i do O_O
[09:09] <soundray> lazzarello: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:09] <lazzarello> rad.
[09:09] <robokop> how can i unmount a device which stays busy for a reason i don't know
[09:09] <chowells> find out what process is using the device and kill it
[09:10] <lazzarello> robokop, /etc/init.d/fam restart
[09:10] <DaSkreec1> Arrick: ah ok think I'm getting it now :-) I have an allow of 127.0.0.1
[09:10] <soundray> _Ads_: they aren't the cause for your problem. -- Did the freeze happen before or after you entered your username and password?
[09:10] <DaSkreec1> That might make a difference :)
[09:10] <mnob07> this is offtopic but is there any way to have mIRC... highlight every instance of "mnob07" so I can easily find the line when someone is speaking to me?
[09:10] <wims> I checked the system monitor and it appears that my CPU is running 100%
[09:10] <wims> is that normal?
[09:10] <Arrick> oh yeah, thats it
[09:10] <Arrick> sorry
[09:10] <_Ads_> soundray: after i entered my username and password then clicked on login
[09:10] <DaSkreec1> No I need to figure out the user and password
[09:10] <lazzarello> wims, depends on what you're doing with your computer
[09:10] <robokop> lazzarello, bash: /etc/init.d/fam: No such file or directory
[09:11] <robokop> chowells, how can i find that out
[09:11] <soundray> _Ads_: examine another log: 'tail -n 20 /home/username/.xsession-errors' (substitute your real username)
[09:11] <lazzarello> robokop, weird...old Debian Gnome thing I guess...try lsof | grep <mount directory>
[09:11] <chowells> robokop: lsof /dev/devicename
[09:11] <_Ads_> soundray: ok
[09:12] <F0LL0W3R> heey Anyone know how to execute two operation using shell command
[09:12] <wims> lazzarello, i'm not doing anything intensive, i'm just browsing some web pages
[09:12] <shylock> hallo, any time i run apt-get i get output that a lot of programs are having dependencies that arent installed, it all seems to have to do with libstdc++5, can i fix this somehow?
[09:12] <lazzarello> wims, what's on the web pages?
[09:12] <shylock> none of the software woel
[09:12] <shylock> work
[09:12] <magical_trevsky> can anyone think of why my ubuntu box has suddenly started dropping connections, but only from internal lan clients, not external ones?
[09:12] <soundray> F0LL0W3R: 'shellcommand1 & shellcommand2'
[09:12] <magical_trevsky> I have a belkin f5d7050 wireless adapter using ndiswrapper
[09:12] <wims> just static text
[09:13] <jramsey> anyone ever build GRUB from scratch? i did and cannot find the executable -- the build 'seemed' to complete okay
[09:13] <wims> after shutting down everything except xchat i still have 100% usage
[09:13] <wims> very weird
[09:13] <soundray> shylock: try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[09:13] <lazzarello> wims, run top in a terminal
[09:13] <magical_trevsky> I can ssh to the box a bit, but then it just drops me for no reason after a few mins, but if I do the same thing from a box that isn't on the lan, it works fine
[09:13] <_Ads_> soundray: i have  a lot of messages like 'failed to open listener for sco session_manager=unixads:/tmp/.ICE-unix/7864
[09:13] <Orion_j> hi
[09:14] <F0LL0W3R> soundray didn't get that sorry
[09:14] <F0LL0W3R> soundray again soundary ?
[09:14] <soundray> F0LL0W3R: 'shellcommand1 & shellcommand2'
[09:14] <Orion_j> anyone knows a simple applets that i can stick on desktop to watch cpu, memory.. or something like karamba in kde.. I want something works on gnome
[09:14] <chaos_of_apocaly> what the hell is a program  called wish????'
[09:14] <F0LL0W3R> soundray Hmmmmm what is mean by shellcommand 1 & shellcommand2' ?
[09:15] <kirkunit> Orion: gkrellm ?
[09:15] <shylock> soundray, nothing happened
[09:15] <shylock> soundray, tryin to update alla packages right know
[09:16] <Orion_j> anyone knows a simple applets that i can stick on desktop to watch cpu, memory.. or something like karamba in kde.. I want something works on gnome
[09:16] <kirkunit> Orion_j: gkrellm ?
[09:16] <inforlife> oi
[09:16] <Spec> gkrellm
[09:16] <soundray> _Ads_: is your disk nearly full?
[09:16] <Orion_j> hmm
[09:16] <inforlife> hi
[09:16] <squidgy> Hi!  Is there a linux command that duplicates the functionality of the 'start' command in Windows, i.e., a shell command that will invoke whatever application is associated with a given file? In other words, I'm looking for a command-line duplicate of double-clicking a file in nautilus?
[09:16] <Orion_j> will google for that
[09:16] <_Ads_> soundray: certainly not
[09:17] <soundray> F0LL0W3R: if you substitute your own commands, the first one will run in the background, and the other will run simultaneously.
[09:17] <kirkunit> Orion_j: yeah first result. It's not the prettiest thing, but i think it's skinnable
[09:17] <robokop> squidgy, huh what do you mean
[09:17] <F0LL0W3R> soundray aha
[09:17] <_Ads_> soundray: i also have an error which reads 'cannot create /dev/X
[09:17] <soundray> _Ads_: this is a fresh installation, correct?
[09:17] <_Ads_> soundray: yes
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> does someone know about iptables? I am trying to open a port, and it will only allow incoming connections, not outgoing.
[09:18] <War> how can I tell XF86AudioMute to run a script something like this amixer sset 'PCM' mute
[09:19] <squidgy> robokop: In windows, at a command prompt, if you type 'start myfile.pdf', it will launch the PDF viewer.  If you type 'start .' it will launch the windows explorer pointed to the current directory.  If you type 'start myimage.jpg', it will launch the image viewer for myimage.jpg.  Basically, 'start' acts like double-clicking a file, but from the command prompt.
[09:19] <soundray> _Ads_: give me a minute...
[09:19] <_Ads_> soundray: sure thing
[09:19] <outlawcrook> how can i load the updates from a cd
[09:19] <outlawcrook> so that i dont have to download them again
[09:20] <schloob> does anyone know if there's a metacity theme (i.e. window borders) that's similar to evilwm, or would i have to create one?
[09:20] <DShepherd> outlawcrook: sudo apt-cdrom add <-- that should add the cd to the sourcelist. You can then apt-get and it will check the cd first
[09:20] <|Warz|> how can I tell XF86AudioMute to run a script something like this amixer sset 'PCM' mute
[09:20] <robokop> squidgy, hmm don't know how to do that
[09:20] <squidgy> robokop:  So, I want the same functionality in Ubuntu.  I want to invoke whatever action nautilus would take if I double-clicked a file, but from a terminal.
[09:21] <robokop> squidgy, but it has something to do with mimetypes
[09:22] <squidgy> robokop:  Yes.  I'm just wondering if there's an existing command to do this.  If not, then the next best thing would be to tap into some sort of MIME registry, ostensibly whateber nautilus uses.  I'm new to linux and Ubuntu, but I'm happy to write some python if I can figure out where to look.
[09:22] <ubuntu> hi evrybody
[09:22] <outlawcrook> i got this when i do that
[09:22] <outlawcrook> E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc
[09:23] <robokop> !mimetypes
[09:23] <ubotu> robokop: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:23] <jramsey> any GRUB experts here?
[09:23] <robokop> !magic
[09:23] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, robokop
[09:23] <robokop> !info magic
[09:24] <soundray> _Ads_: I think something must have gone wrong during your installation. I know it's a pain, but I think the best option is to reinstall.
[09:24] <roryy> squidgy: try 'run-mailcap'
[09:24] <squidgy> roryy:  will do.  thanks.
[09:24] <soundray> jramsey: there is no executable as such. There are the stage files, which have to be referenced from the MBR.
[09:24] <_Ads_> soundray: ok no problem i will reinstall i really do apreciate ur efforts to help :)
[09:25] <jramsey> soundray, yeah i know but my problem is i want to build grub from scratch, have loaded the latest version and it seemed to build but i am not able to find the executable
[09:25] <soundray> jramsey: which is why I'm saying there is no executable
[09:26] <soundray> _Ads_: I hope it works. If you hit the same snag, do come back here. There's always different people around, so there's a chance you might find someone with a solution.
[09:26] <_Ads_> soundray: i will do :) see you around :)
[09:26] <soundray> jramsey: the info page on grub is very good for familiarizing yourself with the basics.
[09:26] <jramsey> soundray, according to this, there is -> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622
[09:27] <jramsey> soundray, ok txs
[09:27] <soundray> jramsey: why are you compiling grub?
[09:27] <squidgy> Ok, so this leads to my next question:  How does one configure what nautilus does (i.e., which application is spawned) when I double-click on a file?
[09:28] <jramsey> soundray, the latest version of grub is attempted to make a portable version; i want to experiement with using it in an embedded ARM system, even though i know of uboot
[09:28] <rambo3> squidgy: you would ge more answers on gnomes irc server irc.gnome.org
[09:29] <soundray> jramsey: I stand corrected -- there is indeed a /sbin/grub
[09:29] <roryy> squidgy: it looks like right-click on the file and use the 'open with' tab
[09:29] <soundray> jramsey: but that article won't be much of a help, since it refers to an ancient version...
[09:30] <squidgy> rambo3, roryy:  Thanks.
[09:30] <mnob07> soundray do you know my the linsys device isn't working?
[09:31] <jramsey> soundray, yeah that is what i was thinking as well ... it's back in 2001
[09:31] <Xbox_guru> how do I get new programs using the internet
[09:31] <soundray> mnob07: have you tested it elsewhere?
[09:31] <Xbox_guru> with apt-get
[09:31] <mnob07> yes
[09:32] <mnob07> it was the primary means of getting the internet when the computer had windows 2000
[09:32] <NoUse> !tell Xbox_guru about apt-get
[09:33] <soundray> mnob07: do you have a choice of ports to plug it into? The more direct, the better.
[09:33] <mnob07> All I know is that I plugged it in, and it isn't connecting to the internet with ubuntu
[09:33] <mnob07> is it supposed to?
[09:33] <outlawcrook> the files on the cd i copyed freom the drive before i reinstalled the os are all .deb
[09:33] <outlawcrook> how can i use the to reinstall those files
[09:33] <RichardP> hi, maybe im being dense (someone will point that out if so), ive just installed ubuntu server and i cant find anywhere to permanently set the default route, any ideas?
[09:33] <mnob07> I don't know how more direct i could get it?
[09:34] <mnob07> the mobo usb is shot
[09:34] <soundray> mnob07: you could run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then plug it in and see if any errors are logged
[09:34] <mnob07> it's connected to a usb 2.0 NEC pci card
[09:34] <compunk> richardP you should set it in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:34] <soundray> mnob07: if it's not on a hub, that should be fine
[09:35] <Xbox_guru> also, what command do I use to install a .tar.gz file
[09:35] <RichardP> compunk: thats what i thought, but its set to dhcp at the moment but no route has been set
[09:35] <magical_trevsky> anyone know where network errors are logged (if anywhere)?
[09:36] <compunk> when using DHCP the default route is an option supposed to be pushed by your DHCP server
[09:36] <mutante> Beautiful sunset , first person: Doesn't this look almost like a nuclear bomb exploded on the horizon?
[09:36] <NoUse> !tell Xbox_guru about compile
[09:36] <mutante> Reply: "The sun IS a nuclear bomb"
[09:36] <compunk> magical_trevsky use "netstat -in"
[09:36] <magical_trevsky> thanks
[09:36] <nysosym> hi :D
[09:37] <squidgy> roryy, rambo3:  The command I was looking for is gnome-open.
[09:37] <magical_trevsky> compunk, are there any more specific logs, because that says there are no errors, but it keeps dropping connections
[09:37] <compunk> nothing more specific
[09:38] <roryy> squidgy: hrm. maybe i should use that instead of run-mailcap. thanks
[09:38] <compunk> you can use the program "tcpdump" to get an in-depth trace of all network activity
[09:38] <compunk> apt-get install tcpdump
[09:38] <magical_trevsky> cool
[09:38] <compunk> and then
[09:38] <compunk> tcpdump -i eth0
[09:38] <compunk> to log all traffic on eth0
[09:38] <magical_trevsky> I really can't work out what's wrong with it, lan clients ping out after a few mins, but internet clients can connect fine
[09:39] <magical_trevsky> it makes no sense to me :<
[09:39] <compunk> but hard errors should show up in netstat -in
[09:39] <diop> i am looking for that option of wget that permits me to whole download of a site
[09:39] <diop> someone can helpme
[09:39] <squidgy> roryy:  Yes, it seems to work much better.  For example, with a .tar.gz file, it opens FileRoller, and with a directory as argument, it opens nautilus pointed to that directory.  *exactly* what I wanted.
[09:39] <compunk> magical_trevsky, maybe your HUB/switch is just broken
[09:39] <compunk> had it at already at 3 clients
[09:39] <NoUse> diop have you looked at the man page?
[09:40] <rob_> is it possible to rip the contents of an "enhanced cd", it won't mount for me, and k3b sees it as just a audio cd which i can rip songs from or a mixed mode cd which i cant do anything with i dont think
[09:40] <roryy> squidgy: sounds suspiciously similar to windows start ;)
[09:40] <magical_trevsky> compunk, it worked fine until this afternoon, and all other PCs can interconnect fine, so I don't think it could be the router
[09:40] <compunk> maybe just & port on the router
[09:40] <compunk> anyway
[09:40] <compunk> tcpdump might help you diagnose a little further
[09:40] <compunk> but you must understand a bit about TCP/IP in order to understand the output
[09:40] <magical_trevsky> yeah, I'll check it out :D
[09:40] <magical_trevsky> oh
[09:41] <compunk> take this as advice
[09:41] <C|int> hi everyone,
[09:41] <compunk> for every TCP packet, there should be a corresponding ACK packet
[09:41] <watson540> hb~b
[09:41] <compunk> if there isn't, something is messed up either in your switch, or on the card or on the router
[09:41] <squidgy> roryy:  yes.  After 'alias start=gnome-open' it's indistinguishable.  Windows does have some hidden gems like this, but most everything seems to have a counterpart on linux.
[09:42] <C|int> back, hows everyone
[09:42] <tuxuser> hi
[09:42] <C|int> hey tuxuser
[09:43] <C|int> hey all, I been working rapidly with Dapper alpha 7, and I am very satisfied, with the resluts
[09:43] <tuxuser> can't update me ff
[09:43] <soundray> C|int: tell us about it in #ubuntu+1
[09:43] <C|int> whats that
[09:43] <C|int> channel
[09:43] <tuxuser> so not sure how u did it if your in ubuntru
[09:44] <tigro> hi huys
[09:44] <tigro> i have a question for u all
[09:44] <C|int> I am going , be setting up cedega, and codeweaves crossover 5 pro, and vmware today, going be busy and college too, I can't believe I thought SUSE 10.1 and gentoo would be better,
[09:44] <tuxuser> iok
[09:44] <tuxuser> gentoo is hell
[09:44] <C|int> I am so used to debian based systems, thats where I come from in the linux world, I am also a windows user, and I make things easy for windows user migrating to linux, so
[09:44] <soundray> C|int: this is a support channel, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:44] <tigro> i installed ubuntu 64bit 5.10 for the first time to day, and it boots up but then instead of going into the OS there is just a black and grey screen
[09:44] <tuxuser> yup
[09:45] <tuxuser> i perfer only two knoppix and ubuntu
[09:45] <C|int> hi tigro , and tuxuser ,
[09:45] <tuxuser> hi
[09:45] <Zoroaster> sorry, I forgot, but how do you search in apt get
[09:45] <tigro> well black screen
[09:45] <C|int> want to talk in offtopic, I see they kind of cranky today
[09:45] <tigro> anywayones know y?
[09:45] <soundray> Zoroaster: apt-cache search
[09:45] <C|int> ; )
[09:45] <Zoroaster> apt get catalog?
[09:45] <C|int> they need some, coffee, or something ;- )
[09:45] <Zoroaster> soundray, thank you
[09:46] <tigro> :(
[09:46] <soundray> C|int: this is just too busy a channel to banter about mindlessly.
[09:46] <C|int> hey tigro , isn't that something, probably ubuntu is going be running in 64 bit mode, and better than windows xp 64 hehe
[09:46] <next> i have a AMD64, should i install the 64bit version, i'm worried that i'll have limited support...
[09:46] <C|int> I don't think I'm banter mindlessly
[09:46] <soundray> tigro: is this before or after you log in?
[09:46] <squidgy> Zoroaster:  aptitude search mypackage
[09:46] <tuxuser> running ubuntu 5
[09:46] <ahmad> Hello! What are GDM Themes, and how would i go about on installing them?
[09:47] <tuxuser> how do i upgrade ff easy?
[09:47] <tuxuser> ff+firefox
[09:47] <C|int> I figured out a way, to make a package, of binary, etc, for the ubuntu, like wireless all in 1 package, however, I making ubuntu more universal
[09:47] <C|int> hows that scan
[09:47] <NoUse> !tell tuxuser about ff.15
[09:47] <NoUse> !tell tuxuser about ff1.5
[09:48] <C|int> and I am going, take TechSmith Camtasia Studio, and with Codeweavers CrossOver, show users, how to , work with ubuntu, in a much better, way :)
[09:48] <tuxuser> ok tell me
[09:48] <nzx> hey, i cant find the mutliverse repostories in synaptic, how do i add the, ?
[09:48] <C|int> you programmers familar with that :D
[09:48] <tigro> soundray: before i login
[09:48] <ahmad> Hello! What are GDM Themes, and how would i go about on installing them?
[09:48] <NoUse> tuxuser ubotu sent you a pm with a link
[09:48] <C|int> hey ahmad , you know in system
[09:48] <ahmad> themes/
[09:48] <NoUse> !tell nzx about repos
[09:48] <C|int> gdm, is for , gnome display manager screens etc
[09:49] <C|int> kdm is for kde, and so on
[09:49] <linuxboy> where can I find a wiki page that will help my friend get resolutions higher then 1024x768 on his PC ?
[09:49] <soundray> tigro: what's the last message you can read on the screen?
[09:49] <NoUse> !tell linuxboy about fixres
[09:49] <nzx> !easysource
[09:49] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:49] <C|int> hey ahmad ,want ot install a nice 1
[09:49] <ahmad> yeh
[09:49] <ahmad> i do
[09:49] <ahmad> lol
[09:49] <C|int> k
[09:49] <ahmad> :D
[09:49] <veillette> sup
[09:49] <C|int> I don't send every user on a dam help page like they do :P
[09:49] <Xbox_guru> when try to install opera, I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14137
[09:49] <RichardP> well, i must be going insane, i cannot add a default route to this server
[09:49] <veillette> wath sup
[09:49] <ahmad> YAY! :D
[09:49] <C|int> I'm almost, recording screens, in real time, be easier than saying google lol
[09:49] <tigro> soundray: i dunno it does seem to load ubuntu fully tho
[09:50] <C|int> I do it on windows system, with TechSmith Camtasia STudio
[09:50] <C|int> I make them available, in web stream, high definition, flash, quicktime, etc.
[09:50] <NoUse> !tell Xbox_guru about opera
[09:50] <RichardP> is there any particular reason having 'gateway 192.168.1.254' as a line for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces wouldnt create a route?
[09:50] <ahmad> cool C|int
[09:50] <soundray> tigro: can you boot in recovery mode (option from grub boot menu)
[09:50] <tigro> ye i can
[09:50] <C|int> k, first of all, lets start with this , ah,
[09:50] <tigro> goes to the bash thing
[09:50] <tuxuser> that sucks bad
[09:51] <tuxuser> install firefox with the command line?
[09:51] <C|int> you know where system is of course, lets go to www.gnome-look.org
[09:51] <soundray> Seveas, ping
[09:51] <tigro> soundray: i can, goes to bash
[09:51] <tuxuser> thats old school
[09:51] <C|int> I'll show you the gdm, aka gnome theme I'm using
[09:51] <ahmad> k im on gnome-lok
[09:51] <C|int> okay,
[09:51] <NoUse> tuxuser packages aren't upgraded in the repos once the release has gone stable, you can wait for dapper if you want
[09:51] <C|int> want my msn?
[09:51] <ahmad> sure
[09:51] <C|int> k,
[09:51] <Seveas> soundray, yes?
[09:52] <tuxuser> rather use knoppix for fire fox as 1.7 crahes
[09:52] <tuxuser> on 5
[09:52] <C|int> its really simple too,   clintsnet@hotmail.com
[09:52] <tuxuser> thats odd isn't?
[09:52] <C|int> I'm also , Microsoft Developer :P
[09:52] <soundray> Seveas: can you have a look at this annoyance here please, ignoring offtopic requests?
[09:52] <C|int> they all mad I use open source : P
[09:52] <tigro> soundray...?
[09:52] <ahmad> did it add you?
[09:52] <C|int> 1 sec
[09:52] <C|int> heya Seveas  ; P
[09:53] <soundray> tigro: do a 'tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log'. Any errors that make sense to you?
[09:53] <tuxuser> ok moving on..
[09:53] <Abountu> hi
[09:53] <ahmad> What type of themes are the best?
[09:53] <Abountu> do you know how can I add someone to msn using gaim
[09:53] <Seveas> ahmad, the good ones 
[09:53] <C|int> well thats the thing, there are alot, and you can design your own
[09:53] <tigro> they would make no sense to me, this is the first time i tried to use linux
[09:53] <Seveas> Abountu, buddies  add buddy
[09:54] <ahmad> lol seveas :D Thats true
[09:54] <tuxuser> i like this ubuntu so far
[09:54] <tigro> and i can't view them now, crrently in windows so no access to ext3 partition
[09:54] <C|int> this is your screename? -> 1337.ahmad@gmail.com/
[09:54] <Abountu> seveas : thanks
[09:54] <soundray> tigro: that's fine, it may point you in the right direction anyway.
[09:54] <Seveas> ahmad, de gustibus non est disputandum
[09:54] <tuxuser> when will this dapper be out?
[09:54] <C|int> HEY Seveas
[09:54] <Seveas> tuxuser, june 1
[09:54] <tigro> ok i will have  alook at it
[09:54] <Seveas> C|int, hi
[09:54] <ahmad> seveas, i dont speak that language
[09:54] <tuxuser> thanks you is there a google cal for that?
[09:54] <tigro> thanks for the help
[09:54] <tigro> i am outta here
[09:55] <soundray> tigro: you could also load a filesystem driver for Windows and paste the tail of the log on the pastebin for us to look at.
[09:55] <Seveas> ahmad, it's an old latin saying, meaning that everoyne has a different taste in things
[09:55] <Xbox_guru> no use: all that website told me to do was type that sudo command, and it removed opera.
[09:55] <tuxuser> google calnder
[09:55] <Seveas> !tell ahmad about themes
[09:55] <tuxuser> opera sucks
[09:55] <Seveas> ubotu just gave you a few urls
[09:55] <ubotu> Seveas: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:55] <C|int> havn't seen ya in wile.. and btw , I didn't give up on ubuntu hee :P
[09:55] <ahmad> thanks
[09:55] <Xbox_guru> do I need the build essentials to install things
[09:55] <tuxuser> nothing in google cal?
[09:55] <Seveas> Xbox_guru, no
[09:55] <C|int> was about too, with SUSE 10.1 and gentoo, but they weren't no dam diff, and slow..
[09:55] <Seveas> C|int, tried fedorea core 5?
[09:55] <tuxuser> wich version are you on..xbox?
[09:56] <ahmad> Have you guys tried mepis?
[09:56] <NeoGeo64> Help, video playback with windows files (wmv, realplayer) etc is really flawed in Linux.
[09:56] <C|int> yep
[09:56] <bagpuss_thecat> ubotu: w32codecs
[09:56] <NeoGeo64> It's choppy, bad sound, etc
[09:56] <NeoGeo64> Why?
[09:56] <Seveas> ahmad, mepis = ubuntu + commercial stuff
[09:56] <Xbox_guru> install opera doesn't work, I'm a huge opera fan, I'll download the .tar.gz and try that
[09:56] <C|int> heck, I tried fedora, and red hat both, red hat 9, fedora core 1, 2 , and 5
[09:56] <C|int> Fedora buggy as heck :D
[09:56] <tuxuser> opera is worthless to me
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> what is the ubuntu equivalent of chkconfig ?
[09:56] <soundray> NeoGeo64: the formats are flawed. Covered by patents etc.
[09:56] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, what is chkconfig?
[09:56] <tuxuser> firefox has gooten so good
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> adds stuff to runlevels
[09:57] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, update-rc.d
[09:57] <soundray> NeoGeo64: making it difficult to play them on free systems.
[09:57] <C|int> I'm not an rpm based user, hehe, :P not for me I found out, debian , yay all the way, I was using debian 3.1 sarge for a while, and ubuntu back with warty
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> chkconfig --level 345 /etc/init.d/somescript.foo
[09:57] <soundray> !tell NeoGeo64 about restricted
[09:57] <NeoGeo64> Oh
[09:57] <NeoGeo64> well
[09:57] <C|int> open source, is about simplifying, and I really believe, ubuntu has all that for the user,
[09:57] <NeoGeo64> I watch ALOT of wmv files, i like viral videos and such
[09:57] <tuxuser> right
[09:57] <C|int> however, its all about opinions, user interface for all, and what power the user once,
[09:57] <NeoGeo64> and now i cant :(
[09:58] <tuxuser> i just want ff for ubuntu already
[09:58] <C|int> I'm sure 1 day, I'll take a kernel, the drivers needed for the system, and just compile my own linux system,
[09:58] <C|int> however that time is not here yet
[09:58] <tahorg> tuxuser: sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:58] <C|int> oh firefox
[09:58] <C|int> hey tuxuser , use opera
[09:58] <tuxuser> why?
[09:58] <richiefrich> anyona a qemu expert>
[09:58] <richiefrich> ?
[09:58] <tuxuser> hey..no!
[09:58] <C|int> i promise you won't want firefox anymore
[09:58] <C|int> :)
[09:58] <Seveas> opera, shiver....
[09:58] <tahorg> C|int: opera is not in ubuntu.
[09:58] <soundray> NeoGeo64: but I bet you haven't exhausted your options yet. Try mplayer and vlc
[09:58] <tuxuser> not true i've used on window shated it
[09:58] <C|int> it even has, bittorent, integrated into it, and more secure with encryption and cyphers,
[09:59] <Seveas> I'd even prefer a cheesy musical over opera
[09:59] <C|int> :)
[09:59] <tuxuser> nah firefox is the best
[09:59] <jpbotelho> how i see the info of my processador without reboot??
[09:59] <spikeb> as it is i dont want firefox and want to remove it, but too much depends on it :)
[09:59] <Seveas> C|int, "more secure" is absolutely bollocks
[09:59] <C|int> its not a matter of being in it... endless vision now tahorg , endless vision :)
[09:59] <Xbox_guru> I stopped using firefox when I tried opera on my windows computer
[09:59] <soundray> jpbotelho: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:59] <tuxuser> firefox rocks
[09:59] <slackern> jpbotelho: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:59] <C|int> well Seveas , want me to take a graph, and prove it :D
[09:59] <Zoroaster> does someone know of raid 1 card that woks well with ubuntu 5.10?
[09:59] <Seveas> spikeb, that will change
[09:59] <DShepherd> tuxuser: i think it reggaes too
[09:59] <Seveas> xulrunner ftw
[10:00] <spikeb> Seveas: how will it change?
[10:00] <soundray> Zoroaster: best to do software raid (if at all) in Linux.
[10:00] <tahorg> C|int: endless vision . Who's talking about installing a closed source browser instead of an open sourced one ?
[10:00] <DShepherd> Seveas: ftw?
[10:00] <tuxuser> ok
[10:00] <C|int> hey Seveas , something I forgot to ask, whats ubuntu programmed in
[10:00] <tuxuser> how do i use amule?
[10:00] <soundray> tuxuser: load your bags on its back, I guess...
[10:00] <C|int> :-)
[10:00] <Seveas> C|int, lots of languages. C/C++/C#/perl/bash/sh/python ....
[10:00] <tahorg> C|int: you really don't know what you'r talking about do you ?
[10:00] <Seveas> and more...
[10:01] <C|int> :)
[10:01] <NoUse> C|int thats like asking Whats the world made of?
[10:01] <DShepherd> tahorg: nope he doesnt
[10:01] <C|int> yeah what is it made of :D
[10:01] <Seveas> NoUse, atoms :D
[10:01] <jramsey> soundray, well at least i was able to make a grub boot diskette with the ubuntu distro for grub; i just can't get it built and find the grub executable ... will keep looking
[10:01] <jramsey> and it boots
[10:01] <spikeb> epiphany should be an alternative for the packages that depend on ff
[10:01] <tuxuser> excuse me soundray?
[10:01] <Zoroaster> soundray, then how can you build a good server with Ubuntu if you can't get at least hard drive redundancy?
[10:01] <C|int> well I should ask, what alot of irc users have, negative energy :D
[10:01] <soundray> tuxuser, sorry could not resist
[10:01] <slackern> hehe
[10:01] <Seveas> soundray, poor attempt at humour 
[10:02] <Seveas> I liked it tho
[10:02] <soundray> Zoroaster: of course you can. Use software RAID.
[10:02] <tuxuser> rsists what?
[10:02] <soundray> Zoroaster: RAID is overrated in my opinion, though.
[10:02] <C|int> Seveas, , 1 thing I will say, your an op, in ubuntu channel, that isn't closed minded, and has respect,
[10:02] <tuxuser> got it figured out
[10:02] <C|int> i value that, thanks bud
[10:03] <C|int> i'm going to defcon, :D
[10:03] <Zoroaster> soundray, can you give me a name of software?
[10:03] <F0LL0W3R> soundray look i didn't understand what u said my problem i want to install two programs in the same time like sudo apt-get install wine n also sudo apt-get install XXxXx
[10:03] <tuxuser> having issues
[10:03] <F0LL0W3R> how can that be happned ?
[10:03] <soundray> Zoroaster: mdadm
[10:03] <tuxuser> any one good with amule for ubuntu?
[10:03] <Seveas> C|int, please take the off-topic talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is noisy enough with ony support talk
[10:03] <spikeb> i think i'm probably the only one in chan that actually likes epiphany :)
[10:03] <Seveas> spikeb, hell no
[10:03] <tuxuser> leave clint alone already
[10:04] <Seveas> epiphany is very nice
[10:04] <C|int> hey Seveas , can we talk in offtopic
[10:04] <Zoroaster> soundray, well, I might have to disagree, I have an exchange 2003 server that has lost 3 scsi hard drives in the past 2 years, but luckily they are raid and hot swappable
[10:04] <tuxuser> its ok
[10:04] <Seveas> C|int, sure
[10:04] <DShepherd> spikeb: i like epiphany too
[10:04] <C|int> cool m8
[10:04] <spikeb> yay
[10:04] <Zoroaster> soundray, mdadm, ok, thank you
[10:04] <soundray> F0LL0W3R: you can tell apt-get to install multiple packages at once. Just append them on the commandline, with a space
[10:04] <ProN00b> how do i strip nondisplayable chars from a file ?
[10:04] <tahorg> spikeb: epiphany is really nice for users who only want to browse.
[10:04] <F0LL0W3R> soundray Opss Thank You got it
[10:04] <C|int> they don't get , a MS user, developer, with Vista, jus twants to share some ideas, to make ubuntu alot better
[10:04] <spikeb> which is pretty much me in a nutshell
[10:04] <C|int> is that a crime?
[10:05] <C|int> : P
[10:05] <mnob07> soundray: after I typed 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' into the terminal, I plugged the Linksys wusb54g into a usb port. this message came up: May 16 12:02:27 localhost kernel: [  473.992422]  usb 5-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[10:05] <C|int> I am going use, ubuntu, to start up a wi -max network lmao
[10:05] <Seveas> C|int, in here: yes, Ubuntu is buggy enough as it is now and this channel is reserved for support
[10:05] <tahorg> C|int: you're a big ugly troll.
[10:05] <Seveas> tahorg, language please...
[10:05] <tuxuser> lol ms ass
[10:05] <C|int> oh.. buggy too.. : P
[10:05] <soundray> Zoroaster: you are right in saying that it can be a good solution for a mailserver etc., but many people misuse RAID IMO.
[10:05] <tuxuser> i go back on what i said
[10:05] <C|int> I'm universal tuxuser , wouldn't want to be any other way :-)
[10:05] <tahorg> Seveas: not big then ? sorry
[10:05] <tuxuser> let clint have it
[10:06] <mnob07> sorry for the delayed response btw...
[10:06] <soundray> mnob07: what module did it load, if any? You can probably see it with 'lsmod | head -n 1'
[10:06] <tuxuser> clint can eat shit and die
[10:06] <Seveas> sigh. OK - offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic or else...
[10:06] <tuxuser> moving on
[10:06] <soundray> mnob07: oops, 'lsmod | head -n 2'
[10:06] <Lysander-> Hey..would anybody be able to help me? (:
[10:06] <mnob07> soundray: do i type that into the terminal
[10:06] <soundray> mnob07: yes
[10:06] <Seveas> Lysander-, depends on the problem
[10:07] <Red-Sox> What is the spanish ubuntu channel?
[10:07] <soundray> !es
[10:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:07] <Lysander-> Well, I'm having problems trying to run the live CD.
[10:07] <Xbox_guru> how do i add things to my  apt sources.list file
[10:07] <Red-Sox> thanks
[10:07] <soundray> !helpme
[10:07] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[10:07] <Seveas> Xbox_guru, either via synaptic or with a text editor
[10:07] <Xbox_guru> are there instructions
[10:07] <Lysander-> Well, basicly i attempted to run the Live CD. It all goes fine up to one point about the graphical interface, says it cannot be intilised or similar.
[10:08] <soundray> !tell Xbox_guru about easysource
[10:08] <Seveas> Xbox_guru, the easiest-to-explain way: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:08] <mnob07> soundray: there is one module listed
[10:08] <mnob07> "ipv6"
[10:08] <soundray> mnob07: do you get any output from 'lsmod | grep rt'?
[10:08] <mnob07>  size: 217408
[10:09] <bewire> Hello, have problem with sound in tvtime - tv card: Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME  MK3), sound works fine in other apps (cd-audio, netstreaming, system sound, etc ...) Also, the TV-card works fine with winXP ... any suggestions ?
[10:09] <mnob07> soundray: yes i do
[10:09] <mnob07> are you looking for anything in particular? there are about 9 lines of stuff
[10:10] <McNutella> is ubuntu pre-emptive multitasking atall ?
[10:11] <soundray> mnob07: it would be particularly relevant if there was a module named rt-something in the first column of the output
[10:11] <Seveas> McNutella, heh, would be a lousy os if it wasn't....
[10:11] <Seveas> even the kernel is preemptable
[10:11] <mnob07> I see a "rtc"
[10:11] <soundray> mnob07: that's not the one (real time clock)
[10:11] <McNutella> i was wondering, as its just so responsive, like the AmigaOS
[10:12] <mnob07> soundray: that's the only rt-something I see :(
[10:13] <mnob07> soundray: I see gameport, snd_mpu401_uart, snd_rawmidi, snd, agpgart, parport_pc, and parpot
[10:13] <soundray> mnob07: well, I'll tell you about my experience with ralink devices: they gave me all kinds of trouble in breezy. I had to use ndiswrapper to get them to work. Since I upgraded to dapper, they work with the native drivers.
[10:14] <McNutella> does anyone know how I can tell the Firestarted firewall to stop, and stay that way until otherwise told, even after restart
[10:14] <pinocchio> hello all
[10:15] <pinocchio> someone here who is expert on hardware?
[10:15] <_tcc-laptop> Hello?
[10:15] <Seveas> McNutella, invoke-rc.d firestarter stop && update-rd.d -f firestarter remove
[10:15] <_tcc-laptop> I am having some touble finding stdio.h
[10:15] <Seveas> !tell _tcc-laptop about compiling
[10:15] <vOmpatti> Hey all :D I've got a little proplem here.
[10:15] <pinocchio> me2
[10:15] <Seveas> !tell pinocchio about anyone
[10:15] <pinocchio> :)
[10:16] <vOmpatti> My xserver does an error "no screens found"
[10:16] <vOmpatti> so i cant get it up
[10:16] <_tcc-laptop> I removed the kernel headers.
[10:16] <_tcc-laptop> lol
[10:16] <McNutella> Seveas: thank you for that
[10:16] <mnob07> soundray: well my goal here is to broaden my OS usage after being a Windows user almost exclusively my whole life... and turn this computer into a simple web-browsing/torrent-slave/file server. Wireless isn't necessary for this comp. Do you think I should stick with ubuntu?
[10:16] <pinocchio> but my problem is hardware realted
[10:16] <pinocchio> i guess
[10:16] <Seveas> pinocchio, read what ubotu said
[10:16] <Seveas> _tcc-laptop, you too
[10:17] <pinocchio> and he cant help me with harware can he?
[10:17] <Xbox_guru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14139, now I got this error while trying to install opera
[10:17] <McNutella> Seveas: assuming that the kernel firewall will still be active after this ?
[10:17] <mnob07> my question can go for everyone here
[10:17] <soundray> mnob07: I think it could be just great for that job.
[10:17] <awe__> hello guys, can someone please tell me if dapper = 5.10 ?
[10:17] <mnob07> ok thanks!
[10:17] <soundray> !dapper
[10:17] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[10:17] <Seveas> McNutella, firestarter just controls that firewall. "Stopping" firestarter will clear the firewall
[10:17] <mnob07> I'll have to look into debian when I want to use wireless then
[10:17] <awe__> :$
[10:18] <McNutella> clear it, what context do you mean by this Seveas
[10:18] <soundray> awe__: dapper will be 6.06
[10:18] <zeus> hallo
[10:18] <_tcc-laptop> You guys, that told me nothing.
[10:18] <Seveas> McNutella, removing all firewall rules
[10:18] <james_> can anyone tell me a good dvd playing codec and software
[10:18] <_tcc-laptop> I can't find stdio.h
[10:18] <awe__> soundray: oh, ty, what's the codename for the current release? (5.10 which im downloading right now)
[10:18] <james_> !dvd
[10:18] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[10:18] <_tcc-laptop> I know how to compile.
[10:18] <Seveas> _tcc-laptop, read what ubotu told you and read the page it recommends
[10:18] <Seveas> NOW
[10:18] <james_> !mps
[10:18] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, james_
[10:18] <vOmpatti> exit
[10:18] <McNutella> Seveas: and it will revert to default and work like it did before I stuck on firestarter?
[10:18] <pinocchio> i am running a epox mainbord with 333 fsb and a athlon xp 1900+, this combination run totaly unstable under windows and debian/ubuntu appz just shut down or "bluescreens"
[10:18] <soundray> _tcc-laptop: before Seveas gets out his stick.
[10:18] <james_> !mp3
[10:18] <Red-Sox> iTunes 6.0.4.2 stopped
[10:18] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:19] <_tcc-laptop> What the hell, I did.
[10:19] <Seveas> McNutella, yes, the default being no rules at all
[10:19] <_tcc-laptop> I can't find stdio.h
[10:19] <Seveas> _tcc-laptop, apparently you did not read the wikipage
[10:19] <Seveas> otherwise you would have known what to do
[10:19] <pinocchio> now i have highert the voltage from the cpu from 1.75 to 1.80 and the system seems stable, how can that be is this the mainboard or the cpu coursing trouble?
[10:19] <McNutella> Seveas: no rules, but by default it shoudl still be intelligent like before?
[10:20] <james_> !dvd
[10:20] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[10:20] <Seveas> McNutella, "intelligent"?
[10:20] <Seveas> the firewall rules are empty on a default Ubuntu install..
[10:20] <McNutella> Seveas: I read in one of my manuals that by default the kernel firewall needs no human interaction and works very well without firestarter
[10:20] <ubuntu> Just installed UBUNTU, what is a good channel to ask questions on?
[10:20] <Seveas> ubuntu, this one 
[10:20] <McNutella> lol
[10:20] <ubuntu> :)\
[10:20] <Seveas> McNutella, that manual is quite weird...
[10:21] <pinocchio> just want to know if this is the cpu ? before i buy a new mainboard
[10:21] <Seveas> firewalls aren't intelligent
[10:21] <james_> !libdvdcss2
[10:21] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[10:21] <Seveas> james_, stop fishing
[10:21] <McNutella> wish I could paste what it says, perhaps im not putting it across very well LOL
[10:21] <Seveas> McNutella, use a pastebin 
[10:21] <Mystery47> ubuntu: this channel :)
[10:21] <MisterN> hi
[10:21] <ubuntu> OK, Can i access my hard drive from Ubuntu?  I'd like to find folders with media to test this OS out?
[10:21] <McNutella> and how do you get tha adorable wee smilie
[10:21] <james_> sorry was tring to get the link for the dvd setup
[10:22] <_tcc-laptop> w00t
[10:22] <Seveas> ubuntu, guess the drive is a windows or mac drive, right?
[10:22] <_tcc-laptop> libc6-dev was all I needed.
[10:22] <ubuntu> yes, windows.
[10:22] <daryl_> what are the commands you run after a ./configure?  was it 'make && make install'???
[10:22] <McNutella> 
[10:22] <Seveas> !tell ubuntu about windowsdrives
[10:22] <_tcc-laptop> make and make install
[10:23] <Seveas> ubuntu, ubotu gave you the hints
 but make install u have to run as root or with sudo
[10:23] <daryl_> !make
[10:23] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, daryl_
[10:23] <Seveas> !make is <action> does a coredump in the channel
[10:23] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:23] <ubuntu> OK, i am going to check it out.  Very new to Linux, but already excited about the possibilites.
[10:23] <McNutella>  how cute
[10:23] <Zoroaster> is there a netmeeting emulator for linux?
[10:24] <Seveas> Zoroaster, ekiga
[10:24] <pinocchio> someone know if a cpu can get damaged out of some reason so that it needs more voltage to run stable?
[10:24] <nzx> hey, whats happened to totem-xine-firefox-plugin ?
[10:24] <pinocchio> or is it my stupid epox mainboard coursing the errors
[10:24] <pinocchio> ?
[10:24] <Zoroaster> Seveas, did a search on synaptic, does not come up
[10:24] <stjepan> why doesn't usplash show up while shutdowning or rebooting?
[10:24] <Zoroaster> guess I have to manually install it
[10:25] <Seveas> stjepan, no 'splash' in the kernel command line?
[10:25] <Zoroaster> Seveas, guess I have to manually install it
[10:25] <Seveas> Zoroaster, gnomemeeting then
[10:25] <Seveas> (that's the old name of ekiga)
[10:26] <student> hi!!! I cannot change my screen resolution to anything but 640x480, I checked xorg.conf and the other two standard resolutions are in there, any idea how I can get to a higher res?
[10:26] <pinocchio> also kann mir keiner helfen ? schade
[10:26] <Seveas> !de
[10:26] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[10:26] <NoUse> !tell student about fixres
 problem is ur horizontal and vertical refreshrate look it up
[10:27] <nzx> hey guys, i'm following the starter guide, and it says to install totem-xine-firefox-plugin to be able to watch streaming files, but apt-get says package cannot be found
[10:27] <daryl_> i'm trying to install xorg-server-1.0.2, and i'm being told lbxutil not found.  I can't find it to download it.  i found a zlib. but that doesn't seem to resolve the problem.  any suggestions?
[10:27] <Seveas> !info totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[10:27] <NeoGeo64> i just ate 2 big macs
[10:27] <NeoGeo64> and a large fry
[10:27] <McNutella> NeoGeo64: you fat git :)
[10:28] <NeoGeo64> im not fat i only weigh 150 pounds
[10:28] <Seveas> nzx are you on dapper?
[10:28] <pinocchio> i just drunk 3 HOFBRAEU SCHWARZE WEISSE
[10:28] <McNutella> im just jealous!
[10:28] <pinocchio> proscht!
[10:28] <Seveas> pinocchio, offtopic talk elsewhere please
[10:28] <NoUse> NeoGeo64 just look at your arteries
[10:28] <pinocchio> cheers!
[10:28] <nzx> Seveas, nope, breezy
[10:28] <daryl_> i'm trying to install xorg-server-1.0.2, and i'm being told lbxutil not found.  I can't find it to download it.  i found a zlib. but that doesn't seem to resolve the problem.  any suggestions?
[10:28] <benji_123456789> anyone got google talk running on Gaim2?
[10:28] <Seveas> nzx, figures, that version does not have the totem firefox plugin 
[10:28] <student> pinocchio, I installed Ubuntu in a lab of computers, all but 2 can get higher resolution, the computers are same model/specs, is this still the problem?
[10:29] <Seveas> daryl_, apt-get install xserver-xorg
[10:29] <nzx> Seveas, ah! i see, the guide doesnt say that
[10:29] <McNutella> benji_123456789: some may be surprised to find gaim2 available.. I didnt know it existed
[10:29] <Seveas> McNutella, it's at beta 3
[10:29] <daryl_> seveas: i try that.  but i dont' have the right repository.  do you know where the repository is?
[10:29] <benji_123456789> McNutella: its a beta version
[10:29] <Seveas> !tell daryl_ about repos
[10:29] <benji_123456789> but stable
[10:29] <ubuntu> I ran the script.  :)  Very cool.  there they are.
[10:29] <McNutella> Seveas: does one have to compile it, coz i aint got that far with ubuntu yet LOL
[10:30] <Seveas> McNutella, no, there are packages on people.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <Seveas> google for gaim2 ubuntu people.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <McNutella> and I goto that address, or add it to the other thign
 aslo the same graficcards?
[10:31] <Xbox_guru> ok I'm still having problems installing opera, I added the opera things to apt-get and then tried to install them, these are the errors I got. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14140
[10:31] <daryl_> seveas: thank you much.
[10:31] <Seveas> you add it to the sources.list
[10:31] <Seveas> the packages are only for dapper though
[10:31] <Aeudian> From the shell on a "server install (no gui)" what command can i use to download a file on a webserver to my /tmp directory on the server
[10:31] <student> pinocchio, yes, onboard, same mobo
[10:31] <benji_123456789> i have it installed on breezy
[10:31] <Seveas> Aeudian, wget http://server/filename -O /tmp/filename
[10:31] <edwin> How do i find new themes?
[10:32] <benji_123456789> with one of those packages form people.ubuntu
[10:32] <Seveas> !tell edwin about themes
 and they all run under with same xorg.conf
[10:32] <nzx> Seveas, so what can i use instead? i'd like to be able to watch streaming movies
[10:32] <Seveas> nzx, mplayer-mozilla
[10:32] <nicolas_> is there i way i can remove that brown sub-background at login ?
[10:32] <Seveas> or mozilla-mplayer
[10:33] <student> pinocchio, yes, I didn't modify xorg.conf at all
[10:33] <Xbox_guru> "opera:Depends:libqt3c102-mtbutitisnotinstallable" what does that mean
[10:33] <Seveas> I always mess that name up
[10:33] <benji_123456789> Rhine:  check out http://art.gnome.org/
[10:33] <Jowi> nicolas_: gdmsetup
[10:33] <Seveas> Xbox_guru, that you're screwed 
[10:33] <Xbox_guru> what, I can't get opera
[10:33] <benji_123456789> and http://www.gnome-look.org/
 all are running on same monitors?
[10:33] <Seveas> Xbox_guru, grab the debian etch package for opera
[10:33] <student> pinocchio, yes
[10:33] <Zoroaster> can gnomemeeting do desktop sharing?
[10:33] <ubuntu> I'm onto the same problem seveas.  It is asking for plug-in?  mplayer-mozilla?  where is that
[10:33] <pinocchio> wt...?
[10:33] <nzx> arrrg! stupid flash plugin wont download
 ok i duuno sorry i could not help
[10:33] <nicolas_> Jowi: no, after gdm
[10:34] <Seveas> ubuntu, in the ubuntu multiverse repository
[10:34] <Seveas> !tell ubuntu -about multiverse
[10:34] <nicolas_> Jowi: between gdm and the splashscreen
[10:34] <student> pinocchio, ok, thanks for trying! :)
[10:34] <Mystery47> edwin: http://art.gnome.org/
[10:34] <McNutella> !multiverse
[10:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:34] <ubuntu> I need to borrow ubotu for an evening :)
[10:34] <ArrowHead> Can somebody help me to get my Radeon working properly under Breezy?
[10:34] <Rhine> !tell rhine about themes
[10:34] <Xbox_guru> Seveas: this is the error I got when I tried to install the .deb package, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14137
[10:35] <ArrowHead> the 3d acceleration is... well... crappy :|
[10:35] <nicolas_> there is some default brown background i cant remove
[10:35] <Jowi> nicolas_: yeah, i think you do that in gdmsetup. click the checkbox for a solid colour and pick something else than the brown one, then untick that box again. I think that's the way I did it... i think.
[10:35] <Seveas> Xbox_guru, grab the debian **etch** package for opera
[10:35] <student> how do we list topics available under ubotu?
[10:36] <Xbox_guru> severas: what?, i'm new to linux
[10:36] <Seveas> ubotu, tell student about yourself
[10:36] <student> !ubotu
[10:36] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:36] <NoUse> Seveas does the link ubotu has about opera not work anymore?
[10:36] <Xbox_guru> severas, where can I get that
[10:36] <nicolas_> Jowi: ohh yea but its on the panel for non-graphical banner, but ill try
[10:36] <ubuntu> !ubotu
[10:36] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:36] <Seveas> Xbox_guru, on opera.com
[10:36] <benji_123456789> Rhine:  check out http://art.gnome.org/
[10:36] <benji_123456789> and http://www.gnome-look.org/
[10:36] <student> lol
[10:36] <benji_123456789> anyone got google talk running on Gaim2?
[10:36] <daryl_> seveas, I'm having troubles installing a pckage.  it says: Package requirements (xorg-server xproto fontsproto xf86dgaproto ) were not met.  any ideas?
[10:37] <student> thanks Seveas
[10:37] <rsa_md5> I have a internal PcTel HSP56 micromodem. I have downloaded the .tar.gz driver. Where do I extract it?
[10:37] <Seveas> daryl_, *only* use apt to install X
[10:37] <Seveas> don't do it manually
[10:37] <daryl_> seveas: i'm trying to install a SIS driver.
[10:38] <Seveas> daryl_, binary or source?
[10:38] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, did u try installing libqt3-mt-odbc
[10:38] <daryl_> seveas: source
[10:38] <benji_123456789> McNutella: its giving me issues dsending PM'S try this bro http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100899&highlight=gaim2+install
[10:39] <McNutella> muchos benji_123456789
[10:39] <ubuntu> somewhat intelligent
[10:39] <daryl_> seveas: i been having major problems with GLX extensions, and was told i need to reinstall my driver.  the only thing I could figure was to download the source and compile it.  so I finally found one, and have been trying... and get these errors.
[10:39] <paxmaster> what is the best application to use for open LDAP
[10:40] <benji_123456789> anyone got google talk running on Gaim2?
[10:40] <Seveas> benji_123456789, stop repeating
[10:41] <Eftarjin> salut
[10:41] <Mersault> I'm having problems trying to get either snes9x or zsnes working under ubuntu. I have an old pIII866 with a nvidia geforce2 plugged my tv set. I'm running the nvidia driver, and I know I've made zsnes work under linux in a different distro. However, in ubuntu when I try to change the video mode from a small windowed mode to 800x600 fullscreen, zsnes stops responding and cpu usage goes straight to 100%. Any ideas?
[10:41] <Eftarjin> je viens d'installer avec le cd "daily", mais windows boote sans rien me demander, et /boot/grub n'existe pas, alors que le paquet "grub" est bien install ...
[10:41] <homeware> ,.mvh
[10:42] <MisterN> !fr
[10:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:42] <MystaMax> !fr
[10:42] <Mitsurugi> hwo do you install Java?
[10:42] <student> paxmaster, OpenLDap
[10:42] <kill0meter> how do I run an application maximized all the time?
[10:42] <Eftarjin> sorry : i just installed using the "daily" disc, but windows boots first, and /boot/grub doesn't exist ...
[10:42] <MystaMax> !java
[10:42] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:43] <Eftarjin> i've no grub
[10:43] <Blake79> Ok, (new to utumbu), I was the guy logged onto IRC as utumbu.  (I was excited).   I used the scripts to access the hard drives.  Now I guess i need to build up apps. I'm using .mpeg as my first goal.
[10:43] <Jowi> Eftarjin: have you had a chance to read the wikipage about fixing grub?
[10:43] <Blake79> you mentioned mozilla?  mplayer.  i need to download that?
[10:44] <Jowi> ubotu: tell Eftarjin about grub
[10:44] <Eftarjin> Jowi: would you give me that chance ? like an URL ?
[10:44] <Mitsurugi> what do you have to Download to be able to listen to MP3/MP4 files?
[10:44] <Eftarjin> thanks
[10:44] <Jowi> Eftarjin: np :)
[10:45] <Jowi> ubotu: tell Mitsurugi about mp3
[10:45] <Blake79> ubotu: tell blake79 about mp3
[10:45] <Blake79> :)
[10:45] <Dyngo> I can't see most texts in my flash plugin, any ideas on how to solve that?? very weird...
[10:46] <jtmoney_> Grub allows an image to be displayed behind the menu. You can obtain a set of images with the package "grub-splashimages" -- i can't find that package, what gives?
[10:46] <Mitsurugi> is here any converters to change MP3/4 into .ogg?
[10:46] <nzx> is the macromedia website broken ? i cant seem to download the flash plugin
[10:46] <Jowi> Dyngo: there should be a font package for that. hold, i will have a look
[10:46] <Kelsey23> What is the name of the SVN client in Ubuntu Linux?
[10:46] <daryl_> !tell daryl_ about xorg
[10:46] <jtmoney_> nzx, search wiki.ubuntu.com ... there's a guide for installing it
[10:47] <NoUse> Mitsurugi you can be its usually not recommended to covert from one lossy format to another, you lose quality
[10:47] <nzx> jtmoney, i'm following that, but the plugin fails to download
[10:47] <Eftarjin> Jowi: there is a wikipage RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows , but in facts, in installed Ubuntu after windows
[10:47] <Mitsurugi> Oh its not that big of a deal, Where do I download a converter
[10:47] <jtmoney_> nzx, hmm, not sure then
[10:47] <jtmoney_> =(
[10:47] <awolf> I can't get the accelerated nvidia drivers working
[10:48] <NoUse> awolf have you read the wiki guide?
[10:48] <awolf> Yes. and followed it.
[10:49] <NoUse> awolf what error are you getting?
[10:49] <awolf> GDM won't start, and I get a black screen that appears to hard lock the box
[10:49] <awolf> I can't switch to a virtual terminal, or SSH in
[10:49] <NoUse> awolf what kind of nvidia card do you have?
[10:49] <ArrowHead> so, nobody can help me with my ATI gfx card?
[10:49] <daryl_> seveas, i'm not sure if you missed my post.  were you still thinking about my question?
[10:49] <awolf> nVidia Corporation NV 36 [GeForce 5700] 
[10:49] <gurumeditationer> Is it feasible to take checkinstall created .debs and fix them up to be on par with normal .debs?
[10:50] <kay> hello
[10:50] <Xbox_guru> severas: i still get problems installing opera
[10:50] <fabio> oi
[10:50] <awolf> I've gotten this error in other linuxes when AGP wasn't compiled as a module
[10:50] <Seveas> gurumeditationer, not really....
[10:50] <pm> where are locales options stored in the system-. the ones set by dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[10:50] <Seveas> daryl_, sorry, was afk
[10:50] <Kelsey23> What is the name of the SVN client in Ubuntu Linux?
[10:50] <kay> I have a problem with amsn 0.95-3
[10:50] <Seveas> Xbox_guru, pastebin the errors please
[10:50] <Xbox_guru> " Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed"
[10:50] <daryl_> Seveas: no worries.  just wondering how to fix this problem.
[10:50] <Seveas> Kelsey23, subversion 
[10:50] <NoUse> awolf start your computer in recovery mode and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for lines starting with EE
[10:50] <gurumeditationer> Seveas: Is there a good guide for building packages specifically for Ubuntu?
[10:50] <Jowi> Dyngo: try to install the "gsfonts" package
[10:51] <Seveas> Xbox_guru, for the third time: grab the debian etch package. NOT THE SARGE ONE
[10:51] <kay> I upgrade it to this version, but when I going to run it, it only charges and do not anything...
[10:51] <Seveas> gurumeditationer, it's the same as for debian
[10:51] <doctormo> hello all
[10:51] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, go here and it tells u what to do; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:51] <Kelsey23> Seveas: Thanks
[10:51] <Xbox_guru> i googled it and that what it brought me to
[10:51] <fabio> quem tem manual desse mirk
[10:51] <daryl_> Seveas: yo asked if the driver I am trying to install is source or binary.  the answer is it is a Source.
[10:51] <Seveas> fabio, english only please
[10:51] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, i installed ok am configuring now
[10:51] <graveson> Arrowhead:wish i could help you ,but i have been struggling for a month now with no answers as yet
[10:52] <fabio> portugues
[10:52] <Seveas> !pt
[10:52] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[10:52] <Jowi> Eftarjin: should work the same way. if grub fails you can try to do follow the instructions to re-install grub.
[10:52] <awolf> NoUse, it doesn't even generate a log file, because my /var/log/Xorg.0.log is a sucessful start using the nv driver.
[10:52] <Seveas> daryl_, ah right, the SIS driver
[10:52] <vompatti> omg.
[10:52] <daryl_> Seveas: yep.  i'm having major errors
[10:52] <Seveas> I'm going to have to disappoint you - I'm leaving in a minute so won't be able to help you with it
[10:52] <vompatti> My xserver just dont want to start. i've reinstalled ubuntu 2 times.
[10:53] <graveson> how do i get the shorcut keys working again eg ctrl alt f1 . Keyboard shorcuts from preferences does not seem to work
[10:53] <NoUse> awolf so youve install the glx package and you've made sure you have the restriccted-modules package for your kernel
[10:53] <daryl_> Seveas: it says 'extension GLX missing on display'.  so i was told to reinstall my SIS driver.  so I finally found the driver.
[10:53] <Mitsurugi> ?vompatti: what graphics card are you using?
[10:53] <Blake79> Question, I have installed the Live Boot CD, but it seems the OS is running slow.  What is a better way to utilize the OS without changin current system configurations?
[10:53] <vompatti> x800.
[10:53] <daryl_> Seveas: ah... ok
[10:53] <vompatti> radeon
[10:53] <doctormo> I can't configure my network, I have 3 interfaces (eth0, eth2, wlan0) I have a script I constructed which configures all the interfaces so that eth2 and wlan0 can share the internet provided by eth0, dhclient is run on eth0 and dhcpd is started. my problem is 'I'm sick of running this damn script every time I switch on my computer'
[10:54] <NoUse> Blake79 you mean you are running from the LiveCD?
[10:54] <Mitsurugi> you have to install the ati drivers
[10:54] <vompatti> well mm ?
[10:54] <daryl_> gnomefreak: can you tell me why i'm having troubles installing this?  or do you have to know sis to help me w/a install?
[10:54] <Jowi> daryl_: just curious. what did you do to break it? a dist-upgrade?
[10:54] <Dyngo> Jowi: ok I'll try that, thx!
[10:54] <MystaMax> anyone familar w/ the cat /proc/cpuinfo command and dual processors? I need to know how u tell if there are two
[10:54] <vompatti> how to get em, im in the non-graph mode and i dont know what to do :'<
[10:54] <gnomefreak> daryl_: what type of file extention is it?
[10:54] <Blake79> yes, just installed today?
[10:54] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, use this instead of instructions => sudo apt-get install lesstif1 lesstif2
[10:54] <daryl_> Jowi: I have no clue.  the only thing I remember doing different was typing 'ldconfig'.
[10:54] <lss> Could someone tell me if hotmail.com is down? My kopete isn't signing on.
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> can someone please help me with iptables? Trying to open port 25 for one host behind the nat. Been trying since 3 PM, now its 11 PM.
[10:55] <daryl_> gnomefreak.  tar.gz, containing a bunch of files w/source
[10:55] <gnomefreak> daryl_: thats what a tar is ;)
[10:55] <daryl_> gnomefreak: i extracted those, and tried to run a ./configure
[10:55] <MystaMax> fyrestrtr: its hanging for me
[10:55] <Xbox_guru> severas,, I cannot find any other packages besides sarge
[10:55] <gnomefreak> daryl_: ok once you extracted them did you read the README or INSTALL files?
[10:55] <Mitsurugi> Vompatti: try putting sudo Dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg and set up your graphics hardware
[10:55] <daryl_> gnomefreak: yes I did, but it didn't give instructions.  it was just like this huge information that didnt' meake sense to me
[10:56] <awolf> NoUse, I have nvidia-glx and restricted-modules for my kernel installed.
[10:56] <Edwin> I use to have an option to select a theme to download from some art program does anyone know that name of it?
[10:56] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, ok opera runs but when i start it from a terminal, i get the following http://pastebin.ca/56334
[10:56] <jramsey> not sure if these matter
[10:56] <daryl_> gnomefreak: i'll pastebin it so you can see what i mean.
[10:56] <gnomefreak> daryl_: did it say anything about packages to install before you installed driver?
[10:56] <NoUse> awolf run 'sudo modprobe nvidia' and then run dmesg
[10:56] <gnomefreak> daryl_: ty
[10:56] <Jowi> daryl_: ldconfig will not break that. if it worked before it is easier to reinstall X to get it to work again instead of downloading a driver from somewhere that is not certain to solve the issue anyway (even if you do manage to compile it). If I were you (which I am not) I would see if a re-install of Xorg solved it.
[10:57] <doctormo> MystaMax: /proc/cpuinfo tells you about the cpus so perhaps a cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep SomethingUniq | wc -l
[10:57] <daryl_> Jowi: tell me how, i'd love to do the easiest thing : )
[10:57] <daryl_> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14141
[10:57] <gnomefreak> ty brb
[10:57] <awolf> The kernel shows itself loading the 7667 driver
[10:58] <Jowi> daryl_: hold. i will see what i can experiment on
[10:58] <doctormo> MystaMax: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor | wc -l should do it
[10:58] <MystaMax> doctormo: thanks, what does the command after the second pipe mean "wc -l"
[10:58] <vompatti> mm didnt work. said "unknown command" about the Dpkg-reconfigure.
[10:58] <jramsey> !wc
[10:58] <ubotu> jramsey: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:58] <doctormo> MystaMax: word count, line count mode
[10:58] <daryl_> Jowi: *holding patient like*
[10:58] <Blake79> NoUSE, i got disconnected.
[10:58] <Jowi> daryl_: btw, are you sure you should use siliconmotion and not sis driver?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> daryl_: do you have any of the listed cards?
[10:59] <snowfaked> hmh i seem to have 50Hz on my lcd display, how can i easily change it to 60Hz?
[10:59] <Zoroaster> has anyone here setup a samba server to live in a windows 2000 AD domain?
[10:59] <NoUse> awolf hmm, and xorg.conf lists 'nvidia' as the driver?
[10:59] <jramsey> MystaMax, info wc .. counts lines
[10:59] <NoUse> Blake79 are you running breezy or dapper?
[10:59] <daryl_> Jowi: i don't know.
[10:59] <awolf> NoUse, it currently says nv, and thats why I can talk to you guys now.  But if I change it to nvidia, the box dies when X tries to run
[10:59] <Jowi> daryl_: which one did you set up in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:59] <MystaMax> jramsey: thanks
[10:59] <daryl_> gnomefreak: it said series, so I thought I had that.  not sure.  all i know is its a default card
[10:59] <gymsmoke> anyone here have knowledge of setting up ssl certificates?
[10:59] <daryl_> jowi: one moment
[10:59] <MystaMax> so what does it mean if it says "0"??
[10:59] <gnomefreak> daryl_: can you pastebin the install file also please that file isnt wortha  crap
[11:00] <Blake79> I believe dapper?  How do i check
[11:00] <NoUse> awolf I'm not sure whats causing that, you might try dapper when it comes out
[11:00] <MystaMax> i guess it means 1 processor, but lists "0"
[11:00] <Blake79> I'm assuming the most recent one
[11:00] <daryl_> gnomefreak: did i tell you? haha it was a buncha worthless bs
[11:00] <NoUse> Blake79 run 'lsb_release -a'
[11:00] <gnomefreak> Blake79: lsb_release -a
[11:00] <vompatti> oh shit.
[11:00] <vompatti> Can anyone help ?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> daryl_: thats abnormal
[11:00] <Jowi> !ask
[11:00] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[11:00] <rafal_> hi evrybody
[11:00] <ArrowHead> ok um how do i run a program as super-user?
[11:00] <daryl_> jowi: "Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS Default Card"
[11:00] <Xbox_guru> jramsey, whenever I use that, it always comes up with errors
[11:00] <awolf> sudo
[11:00] <vompatti> Xserver wont start, it just gives an error; "no screens found" or something.
[11:00] <jramsey> ArrowHead, sudo
[11:01] <Blake79> codename breezy
[11:01] <kirkunit> Arrowhead
[11:01] <daryl_> gnomefreak, checking
[11:01] <kirkunit> sudo
[11:01] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, the same two i get?
[11:01] <NoUse> Blake79 then you need to get the install Cd, you are running off the live cd which is inherently slower
[11:01] <doctormo> MystaMax: could you send me your results from the cat? (without the pipes)
[11:01] <Xbox_guru> hold on, I never tried configuring it
[11:01] <daryl_> gnomefreak: i have a install-sh, but i dont' think you want it.
[11:01] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, do all the instructions say to do
[11:01] <ArrowHead> I've never used any Linux distro before... so how do i run a program from ym desktop with sudo?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> daryl_: run sh install.sh
[11:01] <Xbox_guru> it always told me it had errors when I installed it so I'd uninstall it
[11:01] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:02] <Dyngo> Jowi: thx the problem is now ok :)
[11:02] <daryl_> gnomefreak: no input specified
[11:02] <Jowi> Dyngo: cool
[11:02] <kirkunit> Arrowhead: could you repeat what you're trying to do?
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> ArrowHead: Add it to the launcher.
[11:02] <Blake79> trying to make the other universes available to download the mozilla package.  I'm assuming i don't have access to that area yet.
[11:02] <Jowi> daryl_: that is the name of the autodetected one. and which driver did you chose manually? "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" (note the capital D in driver)
[11:02] <gnomefreak> daryl_: no install file huh?
[11:02] <ArrowHead> I have a .run file on my desktop that i want to run as super-user
[11:02] <Blake79> OK, when i install, will it be on top of Window's?
[11:03] <ArrowHead> how do i do so, for example if the file is widget.run?
[11:03] <doctormo> ArrowHead: command line or gui program?
[11:03] <NoUse> Blake79 you  will have to repartition to make space
[11:03] <Xbox_guru> jramsey: the package manager would tell me there is a broken package
[11:03] <gnomefreak> ArrowHead: sudo sh file.run
[11:03] <daryl_> jowi: "sis"
[11:03] <Jowi> daryl_: perfect
[11:03] <daryl_> gnomefreak: you got it.. thats why i'm baning my head
[11:03] <ArrowHead> er i don't know... its an ATI driver installer
[11:03] <daryl_> jowi: i'm glad something is perfect
[11:03] <keith> yo
[11:03] <Blake79> Can i install on another drive than my windows drive?  I have two hd's.  If so, how would i access it.  Is there any material on this.
[11:04] <NoUse> !tell Blake79 about installation
[11:04] <NoUse> !tell Blake79 about install
[11:04] <gnosticapex> !pastebin
[11:04] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:04] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, when i followed the instructions and downloaded the deb pkg by hand, and installed via : sudo dpkg -i opera_8.54-20060330.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[11:04] <jramsey> it worked
[11:04] <NoUse> Blake79 the installer will ask you where you want to put ubuntu
[11:04] <Jowi> daryl_: does this help "sudo apt-get install libglitz-glx1" ?
[11:04] <Mersault> has anyone here managed to get zsnes or snes9x running in fullscreen in ubuntu?
[11:04] <snowfaked> blah
[11:05] <Blake79> and when i do?  Will i boot to Linux?  or access through Windows?
[11:05] <snowfaked> tried to do dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server but this is still 50Hz and blinking :/
[11:05] <Xbox_guru> jramsey, where did you go to get that package
[11:05] <Blake79> I have the materials i will research
[11:05] <NoUse> Blake79 you boot into Linux
[11:05] <Xbox_guru> it always gives me sarge
[11:05] <daryl_> Jowi: installing it now.  i saw it earlier.  but wasnt' srue what it did
[11:05] <snowfaked> is there another way to try to fix this to 60Hz?
[11:05] <daryl_> jowi: so i left it alone
[11:05] <|_fouad_|> help, why i get connection timeout when trying to DALnet server in xchat while i can connect to any server
[11:05] <|_fouad_|> ???
[11:05] <Blake79> I guess i just need to know the install won't overwrite any window's config.  I'm still in learning mode
[11:05] <ArrowHead> er ok the .run file I'm trying to run is a shell script
[11:06] <salkot> All of a sudden, my computer only logs me out when I select "Shut Down". What happened??
[11:06] <daryl_> jowi: you asked if it still helps.  I'm still getting the Xlib: extension "GLX" missing ondisplay
[11:06] <Blake79> Also, on another track, i'm trying to gain access to other repositories not available during initial Live CD?
[11:06] <Jowi> Mersault: yep. in zsnes go to config/video and chose for example 640x480 DS FULL
[11:06] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser and goto opera download site, then select unbuntu breezy and open the download, then save to /tmp, navigate to /tmp with terminal then type sudo dpkg -i opera<Tab key>.deb like the instructions say
[11:06] <Mersault> Jowi: that just causes zsnes to stop responding and cpu usage goes to 100% when I do that
[11:06] <vompatti> tell me a program that with i can edit .cf file on non-graphical mode?
[11:07] <NoUse> Blake79 you cannot install any software while running on the live cd
[11:07] <Jowi> daryl_: was worth a shot anyway.
[11:07] <|_fouad_|> help
[11:07] <daryl_> Jowi: hehe thanks : )
[11:07] <|_fouad_|> ???
[11:07] <daryl_> Jowi: you said there was a easy way to install my X again.  i'm not sure what you mean.
[11:07] <gnosticapex> Um, so, how does one fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14143
[11:07] <Blake79> i guess that makes sense.  <looks for gun>    :)  OK, i'm going to work on installing this.   QUESTION.
[11:07] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, i then had to install a few more pkgs sudo apt-get install lesstif1 lesstif2
[11:08] <Blake79> If i install onto the non-windows HD, I can use BIOS to let the computer which OS to boot into, correct?
[11:08] <NoUse> Blake79 linux will install a boot menu fo ryou
[11:08] <Mersault> Jowi: I have a nvidia geforce2 with the nvidia drivers installed (old I know, but powerful enough for this). it's connected to my television via s-video at 800x600 res.
[11:08] <vompatti> hello ?
[11:08] <vompatti> tell me a program that with i can edit .cf file on non-graphical mode?
[11:09] <|_fouad_|> help, why i get connection timeout when trying to DALnet server in xchat while i can connect to any server ????
[11:09] <daryl_> gnomefreak: any other ideas on how to install this undocumented driver? lol
[11:09] <NoUse> vompatti nano
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> Blake79: That's actually not true...
[11:09] <gnomefreak> daryl_: not off hand sorry brb
[11:09] <Blake79> and the boot menu will ask where to boot to?   <this won't overwrite any windows configurations?> Don't want to lose my computer on my day off.
[11:09] <gnosticapex> how do I fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14143
[11:09] <poimen> in ubuntu dapper xgl is installed by default?
[11:09] <Blake79> I'm downloading the install cd now.
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> Blake79: You CAN install software while in a Live session, but it will load everything into your RAM, so if you don't have much of that, it could cause trouble.
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> poimen: No.
[11:10] <Jowi> Mersault: i've got a crappy onboard chipset and it still work :)
[11:10] <daryl_> Jowi: *daryl waits in anticipation to be inlightened from on high*
[11:10] <Xbox_guru> jramsey: ohh, I found it, sorry I was doing the Xandros download and didn't know you had to change that
[11:10] <salah> hi. is there any ways to fix the mouse sensetivity? I use a synaptics touchpad for my laptop
[11:10] <ArrowHead> where can i find my xwindows config file?
[11:10] <daryl_> Jowi: i at least hope you get a good chuckle today : )
[11:10] <Mersault> Jowi: So I guess then you don't have any particular suggestions...
[11:10] <awolf> ArrowHead, /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[11:11] <Blake79> well, i believe i'm ready to install anyway, and i don't have much.  :)   I just don't want to mess anything up.
[11:11] <Jowi> daryl_: yeah, i'm checking some forums on sis
[11:11] <Eftarjin> is an USB mouse supposed to work out-of-the-box ?
[11:11] <daryl_> Jowi: i'm having a heck of a time, i tried so many forums.  it was unreal...
[11:11] <Eftarjin> in fact it's an USB to PS/2 adaptor
[11:11] <Jowi> Mersault: nope. but does it work when you don't connect it s-video style?
[11:11] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, Xandros is good, Ubuntu is better :)
[11:11] <harisund> gnosticapex: looks like there is a problem with the repositories. Firstly, try doing 'sudo apt-get update' and then try your 'sudo apt-get install' and then check if it works?
[11:11] <NoUse> Blake79 read the instructions carefully and you should be fine
[11:12] <daryl_> jowi: i found one link that suggested i go to http://www.winischhofer.net/
[11:12] <daryl_> jowi: i also found this in a google search: http://rpm.rutgers.edu/repository/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-driver-sis/
[11:12] <Blake79> man, I never read instructions, but it seems like a good time to start.
[11:12] <Jowi> daryl_: i see the problem when some people tried dapper upgrade, but not in breezy. you're sure you didn't try to upgrade to dapper?
[11:13] <ArrowHead> ok so now how would i get to my ATI console?
[11:13] <Blake79> I'm downloading through Linux, I selected save to disk, but it didn't prompt for location?
[11:13] <Mersault> Jowi: no monitor around really to test it with. but as far as the computer is concerned it should just be an 800x600 monitor, i think
[11:13] <Mystery47> Eftarjin: yes
[11:13] <harisund> Blake79, doing an rtfm is not always necessary, but sometimes what you learn from actually reading is amazing
[11:13] <daryl_> Jowi: nope, i uninstalled dapper a week ago, and went back to breezy, full reformat
[11:13] <Eftarjin> Mystery47: mine doesn't :(
[11:13] <Blake79> rtfm?
[11:13] <coz_> is there a way to reconfigure icons in dapper/
[11:13] <Jowi> Mersault: try the "pal" or "ntsc" option with zsnes. other than that i have no clue
[11:13] <jtmoney> is there a release date for dapper drake yet?
[11:13] <awolf> RTFM: read the manual
[11:13] <Drac|Mac> brb
[11:14] <Xbox_guru> jramsey: I get this error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14145
[11:14] <daryl_> jowi: at this point i'm starting to wonder if reinstalling ubuntu wouldn't be the easiest solution...  can you think of something easier to uninstall/reinstallt hen the whole system?
[11:14] <Blake79> :) OK.       So this .iso file for install cd.  I can write this to CD from this OS?
[11:15] <Blake79> brb
[11:15] <Mystery47> Eftarjin: bad...:(
[11:16] <Jowi> daryl_: well, you have the drivers installed. you have the libglitz installed, you have chosen the correct driver. wierd
[11:16] <h3h_timo> where are the default desktop backgrounds located?
[11:16] <daryl_> Jowi: um could I uninstall something and reinstall from scratch?
[11:17] <Jowi> daryl_: ah wait!
[11:17] <daryl_> Jowi: *Stops mid sentence*
[11:17] <daryl_> Jowi: *waits*
[11:17] <holycow> does anyone know if open office has any logging facility? i have an oo install thats hanging and need to track down wher eit issue might be
[11:18] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-odbc
[11:18] <Jowi> daryl_: here ( http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart3.shtml#faq ) it say that you should EITHER add Load "glx" OR  "Dri off". can you post your xorg.conf please. i suspect you got both enabled
[11:18] <jkarr> hello
[11:18] <ArrowHead> how do i open the ati console?
[11:18] <harisund> hello jkarr
[11:18] <daryl_> Jowi: i'll go make the change, and test it, and then post it
[11:18] <Jowi> daryl_: use pastebin
[11:18] <daryl_> Jowi: brb
[11:19] <Trae> !pastebin
[11:19] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:20] <gnosticapex> harisund: sudo apt-get update gets to 0% [waiting for headers]  [waiting for headers]  and then does nothing.
[11:20] <Xbox_guru> jramsey: it said it can't find the package lists
[11:20] <m0biu5> where can I find errors that are displayed during boot (specifically alsa stuff)
[11:20] <cwillu> where do I turn off the snapping movement of windows?
[11:20] <Xbox_guru> \jramsey: it can't find the package
[11:20] <Xbox_guru> my bad
[11:21] <harisund> gnosticapex, I believe there is a problem with the repositories then. Trying after a while is the best suggestion I can make at the moment, and by the way, make sure your internet is working fien as well. Maybe apt-get is not able to connect to the servers.
[11:21] <Kelsey23> Someone had a few clones
[11:21] <daryl_> Jowi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14148  (Note I just did a # in front, and it didnt' make a difference.  in the DRI.  also note the DRI ino at the bottom.  should i comment it out too?
[11:22] <gnosticapex> harisund: no other net problems, gaim and everything connect fine, only other problem is at the moment dvd drive is unresponsive >.>
[11:22] <Xbox_guru> jramsey: do I need to install the build essentials, i reformatted my computer and put ubuntu back on it so there not installed
[11:22] <cwillu> gnosticapex: what's the problem you're having?
[11:22] <Stargazers> Hi. What is the best software (or any software at all) what I can use to convert AVI to MKV or any other formats (like OGM etc) without recompressing video and audio?
[11:23] <Jowi> daryl_: no. it look ok (now). should work like a sharm :-/
[11:23] <gnosticapex> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14143
[11:23] <Jowi> s/sharm/charm
[11:23] <gnosticapex> cwillu: getting that in my terminal
[11:23] <gnosticapex> cwillu: thats one of my many problems at the moment =)
[11:23] <cwillu> heh, I know the feeling :p
[11:23] <daryl_> Jowi:  so what do you think the easiest resolution is?
[11:23] <SX3> Hi, can anyone help with a problem I've got? Tis with flash
[11:23] <ArrowHead> how do i open ATI console?
[11:24] <Jowi> daryl_: did you reboot or did you just restart X after you added the restricted modules?
[11:24] <Stargazers> Do you know anyone?
[11:24] <salah> hi. is there any ways to fix the mouse sensetivity? I use a synaptics touchpad for my laptop and the sensetivity is to high
[11:24] <gnosticapex> Ah, it's actually semi-working now with apt-get update, w00!
[11:24] <daryl_> Jowi: niether
[11:24] <daryl_> Jowi: do i need to?
[11:24] <Jowi> daryl_: yes
[11:24] <cwillu> dumb question, can you ping archive.ubuntu.com right now?
[11:24] <harisund> gnosticapex, told ya. Happens once a while to all of us, I guess..
[11:24] <daryl_> Jowi: BRB
[11:24] <gnosticapex> yees 891B/s
[11:24] <jramsey> Xbox_guru, sudo apt-get update
[11:24] <gnosticapex> yeesh*
[11:24] <gnosticapex> x_x
[11:24] <ArrowHead> how do i open ATI console?
[11:24] <jramsey> then try again
[11:24] <Stargazers> cwillu: Yes
[11:25] <Stargazers> cwillu: I can ping that
[11:25] <Blake79> This download will download even though i'm on live CD right?
[11:25] <ArrowHead> how do i open ATI console?
[11:25] <Xbox_guru> jramsey: ok...
[11:25] <cwillu> Stargazers:  sorry, was asking gnosticapex
[11:25] <Stargazers> cwillu: What?
[11:26] <Stargazers> cwillu: I meant that ping answerred right and it worked well
[11:26] <NoUse> Blake79 what are you downloading?
[11:26] <cwillu> aka, wasn't talking to you, unless you were saying that gnosticapex could ping it
[11:26] <cwillu> okay :p
[11:26] <Stargazers> Ok
[11:26] <gnosticapex> harisund: yeah, everything seems to hate me today. I cant even get my dvd drive to open and it refused to read my ubuntu disk X_X had to force the drive open just to retrieve the disk. Ontop of that, slow net + media problems heh
[11:26] <Blake79> the install CD
[11:26] <m0biu5> anyone have any suggestions on how to partition a new 150gb external hdd?
[11:27] <harisund> gnosticapex, hmmmm....slow net happens to everyone yeah.. but I am surprised about the DVD problem that you seem to be having :(
[11:27] <Blake79> should save to my hd somewhere ?
[11:27] <NoUse> Blake79 no
[11:27] <NoUse> Blake79 the live cd doesn't have write permissions ot your windows HD
[11:27] <gnosticapex> harisund: yeah, I dont know whats up, everything was working fine yesterday ;_; now this lol
[11:27] <NoUse> Blake79 you should reboot into Windows and download the ISO there
[11:27] <loquitus_of_borg> Can anybody tell me the name of the application that gets run when I select the "networking" gui tool under administration in Ubuntuu? I am not at the machine right now but I want to run it remotely
[11:27] <loquitus_of_borg> I just have no idea what it is called
[11:28] <daryl_> Jowi: reboot, no luck
[11:28] <mwe> m0biu5: I'm the one big partition kind of person
[11:28] <harisund> loqui..... I think it is gnome-network-preferences
[11:28] <Jowi> daryl_: still glx error or something else?
[11:28] <Blake79> OK, i'm bcking out, starting rom scratch.  thanks nouse.  I'll see you on the flip-side
[11:28] <m0biu5> mwe, why is that?
[11:28] <harisund> loquitus_of_borg, did you get my reply?
[11:28] <daryl_> Jowi: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:28] <cwillu> loquitus_of_borg: tab completion is your friend;  gnome-<tab><tab><tab> until you see it :)
[11:29] <loquitus_of_borg> hariusund: yep. you the man :)
[11:29] <zack_> can someone help me with a nvidia driver problem?
[11:29] <Jowi> daryl_: I would love to say I have another solution. i'm lost
[11:29] <Xbox_guru> jramsey, I did but it still says it can't find the package
[11:29] <loquitus_of_borg> cwillu: yep. got it :)
[11:29] <harisund> cwillu, gnome-<tab>-<tab> will probably list a ton of stuff.. gnome-net<tab><tab> might just be better..
[11:29] <chapium> anyone have trouble with Breezy & gmail lately?
[11:29] <daryl_> Jowi: is the best solution to reinstall my whole ubnuntu installation?  or  ist here soemthing else I could remove and reinstall?
[11:29] <mwe> m0biu5: I don't need a lot of partitions. In the general case I don't need it.
[11:29] <cwillu> one would hope one would figure that out if one is smart enough to be ssh'ing into one's box :)
[11:29] <loquitus_of_borg> hariusund: actually I want to configure the ethernet interfaces, not the network proxy
[11:29] <cwillu> turns out that one was smart enough, so it all works out (for once)  :p
[11:30] <harisund> cwillu too many one's there :(
[11:30] <m0biu5> mwe, what about making it an LVM or something - I am not really sure how, but that seems like it might be a good idea
[11:30] <mwe> m0biu5: also I don't get problems with partitions being to small, using only one
[11:30] <zack_> how can i install the nvidia driver through the recovery thing? i went here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual but the second command wasnt working for me
[11:30] <Jowi> daryl_: you can re-install X of course, but it will take everything else with it as well (including gnome) so it is probably easier just to reinstall the system
[11:30] <Cin> Why do Flash videos become out of synch so easily on Ubuntu?
[11:30] <awolf> Cin, that's all of linux.  It's macromedia's fault.
[11:30] <mwe> m0biu5: LVM is great if you want many disks to work like one
[11:30] <Cin> awolf, I thought as much.
[11:31] <daryl_> Jowi: you say i could reinstall X.  but it will take everything with it.  including gnome.  is gnome my GUI?
[11:31] <Jowi> daryl_: yes. gnome is your gui.
[11:31] <m0biu5> mwe, i see - i just think i'd like to separate backups from regular usage on the disk, you know?
[11:31] <daryl_> Jowi: grr.. how do i reinstallt he gnome?
[11:31] <zack_> how can i install the nvidia driver through the recovery mode? i went here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual (im using brezzybadger) but the second command wasnt working for me
[11:31] <Cin> awolf, no... patches or solutions for it...? Maybe they'll fix it with 8.5 that they're supposed to be doing for Linux.
[11:31] <mwe> m0biu5: yes that makes sense
[11:32] <mwe> m0biu5: I'd keep backup on a seperate disk or partiton as well
[11:32] <Jowi> daryl_: probably quicker just to re-install everything since we are not sure where the problem lies
[11:32] <m0biu5> mwe, are chronjobs the best way to backup on ubuntu
[11:32] <m0biu5> mwe, well thats what i was thinking - have less then half for backups and the likes
[11:32] <daryl_> Jowi: lol... ok... i'll probably come in to work tomorrow early and do it then.  sigh... all this because I can't run wine...
[11:32] <mwe> m0biu5: that saves you the trouble of doing it manually
[11:32] <harisund> m0biu5 cronjobs are pretty good. You can customize hte backup the way you want ..
[11:33] <daryl_> Jowi: i tried to install ies4linux beta recently.  i wonder, could that have caused the problem?
[11:33] <jtmoney> i'm trying to edit my /boot/grub/menu.lst file, but whenever i run update-grub, it removes the entry for xp!
[11:33] <Jowi> daryl_: did you at least set up a separate /home partition so you don't lose your personal files?
[11:33] <jtmoney> anyone know why?
[11:33] <mwe> m0biu5: but you'd probably want to use incremental backups for regular backup jobs
[11:33] <Jowi> daryl_: no idea what ies4linux is
[11:33] <daryl_> Jowi: i'll just copy them to a file space designated for me on the network.
[11:33] <daryl_> Jowi: ies4linux is Internet Explorer, installed in Wine.
[11:34] <mwe> m0biu5: http://www.linux-backup.net/
[11:34] <Jowi> daryl_: aha.
[11:34] <zack_> can someone help me with a nvidia driver problem please?
[11:34] <m0biu5> mwe, thanks
[11:34] <Drac|Mac> I just got an old "bondi blue" G3 iMac. I tried to install Ubuntu on it, but the installer CD, while booting, says it fails to decompress about a hundred things, then has a kernel panic. Any ideas?
[11:34] <Xbox_guru> I guess I'll just have to use firefox
[11:34] <daryl_> Jowi: it has a registry editer.  etc...
[11:34] <daryl_> Jowi: i had to import registry settings, but I assum they have nothing to do w/the normal workings of this.
[11:34] <Jowi> daryl_: i recommend that you create a dedicated /home partition if you havent already. a re-install wont hurt that much if you do
[11:34] <Xbox_guru> but opera I love... and wish I could use
[11:34] <loquitus_of_borg> cwillu: actually that was the wrong one. do you know what the name of the ethernet (or network) device configuration tool is?
[11:35] <daryl_> Jowi: its easier to just copy the files to another computer, and copy them back
[11:35] <loquitus_of_borg> the one I tried brings up proxy settings
[11:35] <Jowi> daryl_: i have no idea about how wine work. i tested it first time yesterday to play homeworld :)
[11:35] <loquitus_of_borg> not ethernet settings
[11:35] <daryl_> Jowi: i hate extra partitions
[11:35] <daryl_> Jowi: wine is a wonderful program.  I run World of Warcraft using it at home.
[11:36] <daryl_> Jowi: it was the only thing stopping me from switching form windows to linux all these years
[11:36] <daryl_> Jowi: and i finally decided to take the plunge, and formatted both my computers and installed ubuntu on them, and made myself figure out how to make them work.
[11:36] <graveson> can anyone help me fix my keyboard shortcuts for example ctrl-alt-f2
[11:37] <Jowi> daryl_: my brother is totally hooked on Wow. has played it forever. how do you like ubuntu so far then (excluding glx problems)?
[11:37] <daryl_> Jowi: let me share one more thing w/you and see if that helps clarify it with you at all.
[11:37] <Jowi> daryl_: /msg me instead since it is getting offtopic :)
[11:37] <daryl_> Jowi: i love it.  but I'm finding Linux has major problems with video cards.
[11:38] <cwillu> loquitus_of_borg: try the other one, there's two that start with gnome-net
[11:39] <m0biu5> where can i find boot logs?
[11:39] <nzx> hey guys, i installed the nvidia package, and did nvidia-glx-settings enable, but i get an error saying nvdia device cannot be found
[11:39] <Archville> Uhmm this question will sound stupid...
[11:39] <cwillu> bah, sorry, I lied
[11:39] <Archville> I can run a proccess as root with "sudo" but there is any way to run a proccess while beeing root as a determined user ?
[11:40] <cwillu> Archville: sudo takes a user parameter;  peek at man sudo
[11:40] <cwillu> don't know that it works out of the box, but I think it does
[11:40] <clever> where was that link to wireless info on ubuntu?
[11:40] <nzx> i tried doing modprobe nvida, then reloading xserver, but it still gives same error
[11:40] <Archville> cwillu, ok, thanks
[11:40] <Drac|Mac> No ideas?
[11:40] <nzx> Archville, i'll find a link to the help file for you, one sec
[11:40] <cwillu> loquitus_of_borg: network-admin is the one you're looking for
[11:40] <Archville> It seems "-u username" will do the trick.
[11:41] <cwillu> loquitus_of_borg: (yay 'locate net' :p)
[11:41] <nzx> Archville, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#whatissudo
[11:41] <nzx> Archville, thats exctally what you are looking for
[11:41] <Archville> thanks :)
[11:41] <nzx> Archville, np
[11:42] <loquitus_of_borg> cwillu: yep. that's it!
[11:42] <nzx> need help getting nvidia driver to work please
[11:42] <fmasi> hi i like to know how to get test flight 8
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> is there something special to do to configure shorewall?
[11:43] <cwillu> where do I go to turn off the snapping-to-other-windows feature of gnome?
[11:43] <zack_> nzx: i need help too but you seem to be farther than i am
[11:44] <nzx> zack_, what the problem ?
[11:44] <nzx> whats*
[11:44] <zack_> nzx: do you know how to install nvidia drivers from recovery mode?
[11:44] <nzx> zack_, do you mean the console ?
[11:44] <zack_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual im here but a command isnt working for me
[11:45] <zack_> nzx: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    this one doesnt seem to work
[11:45] <jojoman02> are there any cli chat programs?
[11:45] <rodolfo_garcia> OI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:45] <iNiku> jojoman02: chat, as in irc?
[11:45] <iNiku> irssi is good
[11:45] <chapium> jojoman02: irssi and bitchx are popular
[11:46] <clever> i like irssi
[11:46] <jojoman02> yes irc.:), thankz
[11:46] <rodolfo_garcia> Alguem do Brasil?
[11:46] <zukero> i hate irssi, but it is indeed usefull
[11:46] <clever> i perfer mirc but that isnt cli
[11:46] <zukero> i do too
[11:46] <zack_> nzx: when ever i type in "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" i get an error stating Gtk-WARNING **: cammot open display:
[11:46] <Archville> cli ?
[11:47] <kbrooks> how do i clear the global clipboard?
[11:47] <clever> command line interface
[11:47] <zack_> cannot* not cammot
[11:47] <Archville> I like weechat.
[11:47] <kbrooks> how do i clear the global clipboard?
[11:47] <zukero> zack_ : if you are in console mode, try nano instead of gedit
[11:47] <Archville> It's more or less like irssi/bitchx but you have the userlist.
[11:47] <zack_> ok
[11:47] <clever> you could just copy a single char like d to the clipboard kbrooks
[11:47] <nzx> zack_, or you can try 'vi'
[11:47] <zack_> that worked thanks zurkero
[11:47] <kbrooks> clever: no.
[11:48] <zukero> nzx : nano is simpler for a one shot try, as you have the shortcuts written
[11:48] <nzx> zack_, have you tried copying the backup conf back and loading gdm ?
[11:48] <nzx> zukero, yep, i'm more used to vi, :P
[11:48] <kbrooks> clever: that does not clear.
[11:48] <zukero> nzx : thought so, only hard-vi users can use vi, and recommend vi :p
[11:48] <zack_> how do you load gdm?
[11:49] <clever> kbrooks it replaces
[11:49] <clever> which gets rid of the old contents
[11:49] <chapium> !tell rodolfo_garcia about pt
[11:49] <zukero> zack_ : sudo killall gdm && sudo gdm
[11:49] <nzx> zack_, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:49] <zack_> ok ill try that in a moment
[11:49] <lss> Hey, quick question.. I need a program like DBpower amp, to convert down a batch (about 10) mp3 files to 128kbps quality. Is there any tool for linux to do this? Thanks
[11:49] <zukero> zack_ : or, if it works, ctrl+alt+f7 then ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:50] <kbrooks> clever: which i dont want
[11:50] <nzx> lss, i think audacity might be able to do it
[11:50] <lithia> whats a good ripper for audio CD?
[11:50] <lss> nzx,  I've tried audacity, but it doesn't have a batch feature i don't think.
[11:50] <zukero> lithia : soundjuicer provided with ubuntu does its job
[11:51] <lithia> zukero: soundjuicer just makes a lot of noise and doesnt rip properly for me
[11:51] <lithia> any other way?
[11:51] <zukero> damn
[11:51] <lithia> how can I rip from CLI?
[11:51] <zukero> command line mencoder
[11:51] <kbrooks> is there a global clipboard?
[11:51] <zukero> but it's kinda rough
[11:51] <Nirono> hi
[11:51] <lithia> zukero: what command would I use to rip?
[11:52] <Nirono> how can I add a daemon to auto start
[11:52] <lithia> zukero: bash: mencoder: command not found
[11:52] <zukero> lithia : mencoder (parameters i don't know)
[11:52] <Drac|Mac> What's up with the Ubuntu forums? They're loading very slowly...
[11:52] <Nirono> anyone knows how to enable a  daemon to start automaticly when gdm starts
[11:52] <zukero> but you need mplayer/mencoder
[11:52] <sam76549> hey
[11:52] <zukero> i think you can make it with gstreamer too on command line
[11:53] <lithia> zukero: how can I play audio CD?
[11:53] <zukero> try man mencoder when you installed it
[11:53] <zack_> when i type this command "sudo chmod +x NVIDIA*" it says NVIDIA* is not a file or directory
[11:53] <nzx> Nirono, system->prefrences->session then last tab
[11:53] <lithia> zukero: how can I play audio CD from CLI?
[11:53] <zukero> lithia : with any good audio player : xmms, amarok, totem, eclair.....
[11:53] <zukero> CLI ?
[11:53] <zukero> oh
[11:53] <zukero> ok
[11:53] <zukero> sorry
[11:53] <lithia> zukero: xmms doesnt play audio CD
[11:53] <zukero> lithia : it does
[11:54] <nzx> gonna try nvidia driver once more, brb
[11:54] <zack_> when i type this command "sudo chmod +x NVIDIA*" it says NVIDIA* is not a file or directory
[11:54] <Omni|Work> I'm having a problem installing Breezy Badger, and I'm not sure what to do.
[11:55] <lithia> zukero: how?
[11:55] <Omni|Work> I have an Intel Ethernet controller.  PCI ID 8086:109a
[11:55] <lithia> zukero: how does xmms play audo CD?
[11:55] <lithia> Omni|Work: then use ms windows
[11:55] <Nirono> nzx thaaaaanx alot
[11:55] <julls> buenas
[11:56] <Rhine> How do i write to the bin folder im logged in as super user and it wont let me copy some scripts there?
[11:56] <zukero> hmm
[11:56] <zukero> lithia : ctrl+c
[11:56] <julls> alguien sabe algun programa para inventariar toda la red de equipos tanto en sw como en hw??
[11:56] <lithia> zukero: load xmms and press ctrl+c?
[11:56] <Omni|Work> lithia: *rolls eyes* Yeah, right.  I haven't used that POS OS in over 7 years now.
[11:56] <zukero> lithia : yeah
[11:56] <lithia> zukero: ok ty
[11:57] <Jowi> zack_: you just answered your own question.
[11:57] <zukero> yw
[11:57] <lithia> zukero: caffine has frozen! how can I kll it?
[11:57] <Omni|Work> lithia: I normally use Fedora Core.  I'm trying out Ubuntu here at work.
[11:57] <Drac|Mac> ubuntuforums.org is broken. Why?
[11:57] <lithia> Omni|Work: ok
[11:57] <zukero> lithia : open a term
[11:57] <lithia> zukero: caffine has frozen! how can I kill it?
[11:57] <zukero> type xkill
[11:57] <lithia> zukero: ok
[11:57] <zukero> click on app
[11:57] <jkarr> type in a terminal xkill
[11:57] <zack_> jowi: what there something i missed that made it not become one
[11:57] <lithia> zukero: what will xkill do?
[11:58] <zukero> change your cursor to a fps-like cursor, that will kill the app you click on
[11:58] <jkarr> kills a X window
[11:58] <lithia> term wont open
[11:58] <zukero> ...
[11:58] <lithia> sys has become unstable
[11:58] <Jowi> zack_: remember that filenames in linux are case sensitive. NVIDIA is not the same as nvidia or NVidia
[11:58] <zukero> do you have a term somewhere?
[11:58] <jkarr> ok press ctrl+alt+F2
[11:58] <lithia> zukero: no! and it wont open
[11:58] <zack_> jowi: ok lemme try some things
[11:58] <jkarr> and then killall kafeine
[11:58] <lithia> jkarr: will ctrl+alt+F2 shut my dial up?
[11:59] <jkarr> lithia
[11:59] <lithia> jkarr: how do I get back here?
[11:59] <Omni|Work> I have an Intel Ethernet controller.  PCI ID 8086:109a  The version of the e1000 driver in 2.6.16 handles it.  The version in 2.6.12 that ships on the Breezy install CD doesn't.
[11:59] <zukero> lithia : ctrl+alt+f7
[11:59] <zukero> to come back
[11:59] <jkarr> first ctrl+alt+F2
[11:59] <zack_> jowi: where could i find it?
[11:59] <jkarr> then killall kaffeine
[11:59] <Drac|Mac> I'm getting sick of being ignored. Can somebody PLEASE tell me why the Ubuntu forums are down?!
[11:59] <lithia> jkarr: ok
[11:59] <jkarr> then press ctrl+alt+F5
[11:59] <Jowi> zack_: "ls" will list the files in the directory you are in.
[12:00] <zack_> ok
[12:00] <h3h_timo> for some reason i cant open up my theme manager window
[12:00] <jkarr> or F6 or F7...