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Riddelljjesse, robotgeek: can you apply this to kubuntu docs? http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/DIFF12:05
Riddellmind get the correct debian/rules file12:07
kwwiiRiddell: do we install any tango icons in kubuntu?12:13
Riddellkwwii: hell no12:17
kwwiiRiddell: lol, good answer12:19
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kwwiinight all12:45
kwwiibis morgen12:45
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crimsunjdong_: ping06:34
hendryis printer support broken in kubuntu?07:32
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hendryactually printing setup sort of work07:49
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raphinkhi Hobbsee07:51
Hobbseehi raphink 07:51
raphinkhow are you?07:51
Hobbseei'm okay, handed in my maths assignment...had a fire drill..07:52
raphinkhuhu07:52
pygihey Hobbsee, raphink 07:58
raphinkhi pygi07:58
Hobbseehi pygi 07:58
pygiwhats up? :)07:59
Hobbseethe sky.  and traffic.07:59
Hobbseedid kwwi get the new stuff in?  i want to see what it looks like now :P08:00
raphinkRiddell: gettext doesn't work with pyKDE ?08:03
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Simeraphink: i18n() works with PyKDE.08:04
raphinkSime: yes I know 08:04
raphinkbut language-selector uses gettext so far08:04
raphinkand it doesn't work08:04
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raphinkSime: what's the lib for i18n?08:10
Simeraphink: the same as it is in C++.08:10
raphinkwhich is?08:10
Simekdecore (I think)08:10
raphinkok08:11
raphinkthanks08:11
raphinkhmpf08:13
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Hobbseeraphink: you around?08:36
raphinkyes 08:36
Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/3835608:36
Hobbseehow do i see if that's still applicable?08:36
Hobbseeis there some easy way to tell?08:36
UbugtuMalone bug 38356 in konversation "Is not creating a .pot file on build time" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  08:36
Hobbseelike a post-inst log, or something?08:37
raphinkI'd say run debuild on the package and track the pot in po/08:37
Hobbseehow do i track the pot in po/?08:37
Hobbseeer, it look's like Rid*dell's already done that...but how do you do it anyway?08:38
raphinkwait I have to hurry08:38
Hobbseeokay08:38
Hobbseedont worry then08:38
raphinkI have to take a train this morning08:38
Hobbseego for it08:40
raphink(I'm moving to the French Riviera, visiting a flat there tomorrow :))08:41
Hobbseeooh fun :)08:42
hendrywhat is that kubuntu live Installer tool called again?08:43
crimsunespresso/ubiquity08:43
Hobbseehendry: ubiquity?08:43
hendryso i report bugs against that?08:43
Hobbseei think so...08:44
Hobbseeapparently there are a lot of bugs against it...08:44
Hobbseeso if you find a section with a lot of bugs that isnt firefox - that's where you want it :)08:44
raphinklol08:53
Hobbseeis https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/34992 likely to be upstream?08:55
UbugtuMalone bug 34992 in konversation "Name with ampersand appears with underscore in menus" [Normal,Confirmed]  08:55
crimsunI'd think so08:56
Hobbseeokay08:59
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HobbseeRiddell: you around?09:38
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Everyone should be on the look out for regressions w.r.t. buttons in systemsettngs. || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLinuxTag2006 || Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUbiquity || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meetings in #ubuntu-meeting -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- Next meeting is 11/05/06 2100 UTC
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Everyone should be on the look out for regressions w.r.t. buttons in systemsettngs. || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLinuxTag2006 || Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUbiquity || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meetings in #ubuntu-meeting -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- Next meeting is 22/05/06 2100 UTC
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RiddellHobbsee: is there actually a problem with bug 43788?12:53
UbugtuMalone bug 43788 in kubuntu-default-settings "Maintainers kmix session was included in the settings" [Normal,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4378812:53
Hobbseei'm not sure - i couldnt really tell whether it should be there, or not...12:53
Hobbseei couldnt see any difference12:53
HobbseeRiddell: ^12:54
Riddellit's needed to start kmix on first boot12:56
Hobbseeah okay12:56
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=== Hobbsee watches as a whole lot of the bugs bite the dust.
Hobbseewhy is bug-killing far more fun than maths assignments?03:02
Riddell:)03:02
HobbseeRiddell: besides, it gives me a great excuse to watch a dvd :P03:03
Hobbseeargh...what's the best way to get a changelog between two versions of a kde program?03:12
freeflyingHobbsee: diff 03:14
Hobbseefreeflying: good point.  this is kaffiene in particular, it's suggested in a bug report to get a sync03:14
freeflyingHobbsee: kaffeine is buggy  )03:15
Hobbseefreeflying: true, dapper got a new version, which is supposed to be less buggy.03:15
Hobbseehttp://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kaffeine/kaffeine_0.8.1-2/changelog is their changelog03:15
freeflyingHobbsee: 0.8 has more improvement on UI, but not on application itself03:16
Hobbseeah okay..03:16
Hobbseesomeone did a good job with these kaffiene bugs - they've been triaged nicely03:17
freeflyingHobbsee: prefer to kmplayer, it's stabler than kaffeine03:17
HobbseeOdyX: you did a great job on them :)03:17
OdyXHobbsee: on which ?03:18
OdyXHobbsee: going through bugs ?03:18
HobbseeOdyX: kaffiene bugs03:18
Hobbseeyep03:18
Hobbseeand whatever else i havent seen yet ;P03:18
OdyX;-903:18
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Hobbseein celebration for finishing that darned maths assignment03:18
OdyXJust select one package and view its bugs... Then copy-paste "Does this still happen for you on latest Dapper? If no, please close the bug." 03:19
Hobbseehehe yeah, i know03:19
OdyXAt the same time, mark as "Needs info"03:19
OdyXAfter 1 week, mark as "Fix released" and say "feel free to re-open.. :D03:19
Hobbseehehe03:20
OdyXand don't forget to tae a view on +karma :D03:23
OdyXWell.. Leaving. Practicals to do in ASM-Motorolla-ColdFire03:23
HobbseeOdyX: so when will you get really brave?  :P03:23
OdyXreally brave ?03:23
OdyXmeans = "packaging" ?03:24
HobbseeOdyX: let me find them...03:24
HobbseeOdyX: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs-search?field.distribution=ubuntu&field.sourcepackagename=kdebase&search=Search03:24
OdyXWell.. soon03:24
OdyXwhen raphink ends the translation of "packaging-guide" ;-)03:25
OdyXWell.. Have to go... 03:25
OdyXSee ya..03:25
Hobbseecya03:26
Hobbseeoh dear, i spoke too early about my sound...03:28
HobbseeRiddell: would you be able to shine some light on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/43059 ?03:29
UbugtuMalone bug 43059 in kdebase "When adding network printer wizard chooses wrong subnet for scanning" [Normal,Confirmed]  03:29
RiddellI guess it's searching loopback stuff instead of the real network03:31
RiddellHobbsee: do you have a network printer?03:31
HobbseeRiddell: yep03:31
HobbseeRiddell: reproducable every single time03:32
Riddellyou could try it on localhost:431 I guess to see if it's a cups problem or kde problem03:33
Riddellbut I suspect it's a kde problem03:33
jjesseHobbsee: it looks for subnet: 127.0.0.*:910003:33
HobbseeRiddell: where do i specify that?03:34
Hobbseejjesse: yes, exactly03:34
RiddellHobbsee: any web browser03:34
HobbseeAn error occurred while loading http://localhost:431:03:35
HobbseeCould not connect to host localhost (port 431).03:35
Riddellhmm, curious03:36
Riddellmaybe CUPS's web frontend has been turned off03:36
Riddellwell you could try with gnome-cups-foo03:36
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Hobbseehuh?03:42
jjesseRiddell: i think the problem is that when i select scan for printers it is looking at the 127.0.0.X subnet instead of the subnet that the primary eth connection is on03:44
jjesseis that correct Hobbsee?03:44
RiddellI'm just wondering if that's a KDE problem or a CUPS problem03:45
Hobbseejjesse: the submet that the primary eth is on is also known as the gateway, i take it?03:45
jjesseHobbsee: it should be03:47
Hobbseeyes, that's correct then03:48
Riddellno03:49
Riddellthe subnet is the local network, the gateway is a device on that network that you route through to access the internet03:49
Hobbseeoh03:50
Hobbseeokay, maybe i'm getting myself confused then03:50
HobbseeRiddell: our printer has an IP address of 192.168.50.205 - yet it always tries to scan 127.0.0.*:910003:51
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RiddellHobbsee: even with gnome-cups-thing?03:52
HobbseeRiddell: interesting.  the kde print wizard thing will find it, if you select "remote cups server" as localhost, with port 63103:53
Hobbsee*double checks*03:53
Hobbseei didnt try that - didnt want gnome stuff all over my system...03:53
Riddelldoh, I got the cups port number wrong03:54
Hobbseeno, wait.  ignore that.03:54
Hobbseehehe03:54
Hobbseeso what port is it supposed to be?03:54
Riddellso it's probably a kde bug, maybe we'll get that cups 1.2 SoC project approved and that guy can fix it03:54
Hobbseeokay03:55
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Hobbseecrud!03:56
Riddellhmm, firefox has stopped loading up03:56
Riddellthere's a word my bad language hilights don't catch03:56
Hobbseeyes, it was a substitute bad word :P03:57
Hobbsee*crosses fingers*03:57
Hobbseeokay, this thing hates me!03:58
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Hobbseelovely.03:59
HobbseeRiddell: it's stopped sigseiving after scanning, and selecting the printer, and now just doesnt bring up any list of drivers or printers at all.04:00
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Hobbseeahh, more cupsys :)04:06
Hobbseewe'll see if *this* lot works!04:07
Hobbseeoh good!04:08
HobbseeRiddell: okay, it's working again :)04:10
Riddellcool!04:11
Riddellgood job Hobbsee, keep it up :)04:11
Hobbseehehe - i just upgraded - i didnt fix anything...04:11
jjesseHobbsee: sorry was away from my desk, did the probelm you were having get solved?04:15
Hobbseejjesse: yeah, seemed that it was fixed with the upgrades that came in tonight...04:15
Hobbseethe kde driver database wasnt being created...04:15
Hobbseegot no idea about the other thing though - seems that's upstream04:16
jjessedid you get the problem solved with scanning the correct subnet?04:16
Hobbseeno04:16
Hobbseeer, why is system settings always single click?  is it supposed to be?04:17
Riddellthat's how it's programmed04:18
RiddellI guess it should respect the file manager click mode setting04:19
Hobbseeright, so the wishlist one can stay...04:19
Hobbsee*marks the other as a duplicate*04:19
Hobbseethese system settings bugs are scary...04:19
OculusAquilaewhat about bug #44244 ?04:20
UbugtuMalone bug 44244 in wlassistant "No Translation Templates for WlAssistant in Rosetta" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4424404:20
RiddellOculusAquilae: shouldn't be a hard one to fix if you want to give it a shot04:20
OculusAquilaesame for keep and kwin-style-crystal04:20
OculusAquilaeright04:21
OculusAquilaethe problem is that I have no idea how :)04:21
HobbseeOculusAquilae: i found a howto on that earlier :)04:22
Riddellhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Packages/Packaging/Kubuntu04:22
Riddellsee Generating .pot files04:22
Hobbseethat one too04:22
Riddellyou need to play with the patch04:23
HobbseeRiddell: that detail was copied, it's now also in http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html04:23
Riddellnot all admin directories are the same04:23
Riddellinteresting04:24
freeflyingRiddell: any idea for import many pos into rosetta04:24
Riddellfreeflying: ask carlos?04:26
freeflyingRiddell: thx04:27
Hobbseeooh yay!  found another crash in kopete!04:28
jjesseif the last comment on bug #44460 is "Seems to be a duplicate of " another bug by the person who filed the bug can i mark it as a duplicate?04:30
UbugtuMalone bug 44460 in kdeutils "my wallet in kwallet disappeared, but the file is still there" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4446004:30
Riddelljjesse: if it really is a duplicate sure04:31
Hobbsee*changes jabber account*04:32
jjesselooking at the bug the orignial requestor links to it is the same issue04:33
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jjessehmm don't see duplicate as a status i can set it to :(04:34
Riddelloh it's down the side somewhere04:34
OculusAquilaeRiddell: hm wlassistant seems to have a wlassistant.pot-file by default in source04:34
jjessefound it04:34
Hobbseejjesse: it's there, really :P04:34
jjessei was looking under status04:35
RiddellOculusAquilae: poke carlos then to see why it's not imported04:36
RiddellOculusAquilae: wlassistant was only recently moved to main could be the reason04:36
OculusAquilaeok04:37
Riddelljjesse: could you apply this patch to kubuntu/debian/rules http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/DIFF04:51
jjesseRiddell: sure hold on04:52
jjessein both trunk and branches?04:52
Riddellerr, I'm not sure how trunk is being kept in sync with branch04:53
Riddellprobably not worth bothering to do so just now04:53
jjesseok i'll make sure they are in sync04:54
Riddellcool04:56
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Hobbseeoh well, at least that's some bugs killed...05:00
jjesseRiddell: i'm getting "Missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch"05:03
Riddellapply by hand?05:05
jjesseok05:06
Riddellalthough it does have a perfectly good header05:06
jjessemaybe i'm typing the syntax wrong, can you help me with that :)05:06
jjesseits just patch -p0 file.diff file correct?05:07
Riddellit's done relative to the kubuntu/ directory05:08
Riddellthen  patch -p0 < file.diff05:08
jjesseah that's my problem i was in kubuntu/debian05:08
Riddellthe < is important05:08
Riddellif you're in kubuntu/debian it's -p105:08
jjessehmm still not working, "Hunk #1 FAILED at 3105:16
jjessegrumble05:16
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Tayahi, anyone can help me with adding some default language in kde(kubuntu)?06:31
Riddellsudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-xx06:32
Riddellset it in systemsettings06:32
Tayai have it installed06:32
Riddellsomething like  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales  to set the default for all users06:32
Tayahow can i set it in system settings06:32
Riddellkmenu->system settings->regional06:33
Tayai can;t choose anything , only english, in system settings/regional an accessibilities/country region & langiages06:33
Tayathere is only english06:33
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Riddellwhat's the language?06:33
Tayageorgian06:34
Tayai did this reconfigure locales, but still the same..06:34
Riddelldo you have language-pack-kde-ka installed?06:34
Tayayes06:34
Tayai had it before, as i also have gnome, and in gnome lots of things are in georgian06:35
Tayathen i installe kubuntu(over gnome), and i have somethings in georgian, but very little, and i can't set up there georgian language..06:35
Tayacause I am uploading georgian trsnalations, and want to check how it lookes.06:35
Tayai need to have kubuntu in georgian..06:36
Riddellif you had gnome before you'll have language-pack-gnome-ka but not language-pack-kde-ka installed06:36
Tayai installed it myself today06:36
Tayafrom repository:06:36
Tayahttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2006-May/000537.html06:36
Tayathat's daily updated 06:36
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Tayai have installed both, for gnome and for kde too.06:38
RiddellI see the problem06:38
RiddellKDE doesn't have language packs for georgian so there's no ./usr/share/locale-langpack/ka/entry.desktop06:38
Tayahttp://taya.convert.ge/snapshot17.png06:39
Tayaok, so what should i do to have georgian kde?06:40
Riddellwe need an entry.desktop file in /usr/share/locale-langpack/ka06:42
Riddellbut it seems to also need something translated, possibly kdelibs.po06:42
Tayai nede to create it myself?06:43
Tayayes it's translated, i have almost all kde, i just nee to upload it to kubuntu rozetta06:43
RiddellTaya: for now you will, I can talk to the language packs maintainer to get it in language-pack-kde-ka06:43
Tayai have: /usr/share/locale/ka/LC_MESSAGES06:44
Tayaalready06:44
Tayaso why it doens't work?06:44
Riddellbut anything in /usr/share/locale/ka/ ?06:44
Tayaone folder: LC_MESSAGES06:44
Tayaand 3 files inthere:06:44
Riddellyes, it also needs the file /usr/share/locale/ka/entry.desktop06:44
Tayaiso_3166.mo06:45
Tayaiso_639.mo06:45
Tayapoeit.mp06:45
Tayamp=mo06:45
RiddellI need to work out how to get that in the package06:45
Tayapoeit.mo06:45
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Tayain gnome(ubuntu) georgian is already very long time....06:45
RiddellTaya: I need to go out now but please report a bug on launchpad.net and subscribe me (jr)06:45
Riddelland poke me if I don't get it fixed soon06:45
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Tayahmm.. ok, but i am new to louchpad.. don't know if i can do that ;)06:46
Tayawe;ll see06:46
AlinuxOSTaya, where is the problem?06:46
Riddellhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-kde-ka/+filebug06:46
Riddelland in the mean time keep translating and uploading06:46
RiddellAlinuxOS: we're missing two things that KDE needs, firstly the translations and secondly a file /usr/share/locale-langpack/ka/entry.desktop06:47
AlinuxOSRiddell, ah ok. I understand in GNOME no problems.06:47
Riddellwhich is missing because KDE doesn't have any language packs for georgian06:47
AlinuxOSso it's better to file a bug right?06:47
Riddellyes, KDE is special like this06:47
RiddellAlinuxOS: please do06:47
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Tayayes i willbut when will it be fixed?06:49
AlinuxOSso Taya you must file a bug against language-pack-kde-ka06:49
Tayaok, where , and how?06:49
AlinuxOShttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-kde-ka/+filebug06:49
AlinuxOSas Riddell said06:49
AlinuxOSjust explane your situation: that there is no language packs for georgian06:50
AlinuxOSbut continue to import KDE files.06:50
AlinuxOSKDE devel team is fast to solve this genre of bugs06:51
AlinuxOSRigh Riddell? :)06:51
Tayaok let's see how quick it will be solved :))))))))))))06:52
RiddellTaya: I'll try and get it fixed as soon as I can :)06:56
Tayaok, bug is reported ;)06:56
Tayahow can i track this bug?06:57
AlinuxOSTaya, good :)06:57
AlinuxOSit's open source community :) not M$ !06:58
AlinuxOSin open source community we are faster :)06:58
Tayai know, and i like it :)06:58
RiddellTaya: you will be subscribed to it when you reported it so you'll get e-mails of changes06:58
RiddellTaya: thanks for helping with kubuntu06:58
Tayaand also, i have some other problems in kubuntu.. should i post it here?06:58
AlinuxOSTaya, gender m/f ? :)06:58
Tayaalinux: reebs mekitxebi?06:59
Tayalol06:59
AlinuxOS:)06:59
AlinuxOSI know I know :)06:59
Tayai have laptop: asus w5a0006:59
Tayaalready 1 year06:59
Tayaand sound card was not working in any linux distributions till now.06:59
Tayai installed 6.06 ubuntu about a week ago, and i was surptrized it was working !!07:00
Tayabut in kubuntu - volume up/down/mute keys are not working07:00
Tayathey are working in gnome/ubuntu, but not in kde/kubuntu07:00
Tayalspci sais: 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)07:01
Tayathough, sound and mic are working fine in kubuntu, just not the keys..07:01
Tayaanyone can help with this?07:02
RiddellTaya: laptop keys are something that Kubuntu is often weak in, I plan to work a lot in that area for the next version07:02
Tayaah, and next versions is 6.10 or before?07:02
Riddell6.10 yes07:02
RiddellEdgy07:02
Tayahmm.. not before?07:03
Tayai was waiting my laptop to have sound already one year.....07:03
Taya:)07:03
Riddellubuntu has mjg59 working hard on laptop support, kubuntu doesn't have anyone07:03
Tayaand also my bloetooth is not working, dont know why yet.... and i have to test my webcam also ;)07:04
Tayai will report here if smth will not be working ;) bu bluetooth already is not. ;(07:04
Riddellbut if you can help us with testing then I've sure we'll get it working before october07:04
uniqtaya: you can try system settings -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard -> tick "enable keyboard layouts" - Now select Laptop/something in the list, might work for you.07:04
Tayasure, on my laptop i can test :) i am using kubuntu and like it very much (after i can hear some sounds...)07:04
uniqtaya: the list = keyboard model list.07:04
Tayauniq> ai already have georgian keyboard layoyts07:05
Taya:)07:05
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uniqtaya: ok, then just select some laptop keyboard from the list of keyboard models. Laptop/Inspiron have worked for me on several laptops.07:05
uniqlater riddell.07:06
Tayawait07:07
Tayather eis no keyboard menu, there is: keyboard layout, and keyboard shortcuts07:07
Tayaand none of them have menu to choose from keyboard type..07:07
Tayaah wait, i found it07:08
Tayaah YES!07:08
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Tayai choose laptop/notebook compaq presario, laptop keyboard07:09
Tayaand now my sound/on/off/mute keys are working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!107:09
Tayathx07:09
Tayano ;(07:09
Tayamute is not working :(07:10
Tayaok i will try diffreent laptop kbs..07:11
Tayamute still not working..07:12
Tayaan one more thing:07:13
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Tayain kubuntu (not in ubuntu) time after time it appears soe  little screen saying LCD mode on / off or smth like this07:14
Tayamy laptop has also plug for monitor, an for video out or smth ..07:14
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Tayacan we fix it?07:15
alleeTaya: what's your bluetooth problem (I've bt mouse and idsn device working here)07:16
Tayait is not working.07:16
Taya;)07:16
Tayai ahveinstalled kbluetoothd07:16
Tayaand it sais: no adapter07:16
alleeopen an console and run: hciconfig07:17
alleekonsole that is07:17
alleeWhat bt adapter do you use?  Build in, usb bt stick?07:18
Tayabuil-in07:18
Tayabuild-in07:18
Tayaok i did, what should happen?07:18
alleehciconfig returned nothing?07:19
Tayayep, nothing07:20
Tayaroot@Taya:/home/taya# hciconfig07:20
Tayaroot@Taya:/home/taya#07:20
alleeTaya: Are you sure you buildin adapter is switched on?  (E.g. my Dell has a Fn-F2 hotkey to turn it on/off)07:21
Tayayes it's on07:21
Tayacause it's bin to wifi07:21
Tayathere is one switch for them07:21
Tayaand right now i am usind intenet via wifi07:21
alleeAh, bad :( ...07:21
alleeI would like to see what's happening when ...07:22
Tayawhen?07:22
alleetail -f /var/log/kern.log; # now switch bt/wiki of/on07:22
alleewifi that is07:22
Tayahmm. i will get offline then..07:23
Tayaok brb07:23
AlinuxOS:)07:23
Tayastrange07:24
Tayathis swith is not working...07:24
Tayaeven when i turn it off, internet (i.e. wifi) is still working..07:24
Tayastrange..07:24
alleeTaya: laptop model?07:24
Tayaand in kern.log only these errors allll the time: 07:25
Tayastatus07:25
TayaMay 17 21:25:00 localhost kernel: [4303715.508000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading LCD status07:25
TayaMay 17 21:25:00 localhost kernel: [4303715.608000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading LCD status07:25
TayaMay 17 21:25:00 localhost kernel: [4303715.608000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading LCD status07:25
TayaMay 17 21:25:00 localhost kernel: [4303715.708000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading LCD status07:25
TayaMay 17 21:25:00 localhost kernel: [4303715.708000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading LCD status07:25
TayaMay 17 21:25:01 localhost kernel: [4303715.808000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading LCD status07:25
TayaMay 17 21:25:01 localhost kernel: [4303715.808000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading LCD status07:25
TayaMay 17 21:25:01 localhost kernel: [4303715.908000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading LCD status07:25
Tayaasus w5a0007:25
Tayawait, i will post here link (of laptop)07:25
alleeTaya: grep /var/log/daemon.log | grep hcid | tail -2007:25
Tayahuh, tough job.. still thinking..07:27
alleeTaya: oh, no my error07:27
alleeTaya: grep hcid /var/log/daemon.log | tail -2007:27
alleeuse kubuntu.paste.com to paste the data and post URL here07:28
Tayaroot@Taya:/home/taya# grep hcid /var/log/daemon.log | tail -2007:28
TayaMay 15 23:04:28 localhost hcid[4701] : Bluetooth HCI daemon07:28
TayaMay 15 23:04:28 localhost hcid[4701] : Can't get system message bus name: Connection ":1.1" is not allowed to own the service "org.bluez" due to security policies in the configuration file07:28
TayaMay 16 20:35:07 localhost hcid[4701] : Exit.07:28
TayaMay 16 20:36:50 localhost hcid[4383] : Bluetooth HCI daemon07:28
TayaMay 16 20:36:51 localhost hcid[4383] : Can't get system message bus name: Connection ":1.1" is not allowed to own the service "org.bluez" due to security policies in the configuration file07:28
TayaMay 17 09:24:28 localhost hcid[4383] : Exit.07:28
TayaMay 17 09:25:41 localhost hcid[4399] : Bluetooth HCI daemon07:28
TayaMay 17 09:25:41 localhost hcid[4399] : Can't get system message bus name: Connection ":1.1" is not allowed to own the service "org.bluez" due to security policies in the configuration file07:28
alleekbluetooth does not use dbus yet.07:29
alleeremove the tail -20 and post messages that are different07:29
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Tayahow should i paste??07:30
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alleelook at http://kubuntu.paste.com and paste the data in the text field.  Submit it and post URL that is returned07:31
Tayahttp://pastebin.com/72297807:32
abattoirallee kubuntu.pastebin.com ?07:32
alleeabattoir: yes of course, sorry07:33
alleeabattoir: bookmarks are not helpful for remembering URL ;)07:33
abattoirhehe :) 07:33
alleethe bookmark manager knows them, me not07:33
alleeTaya: without the tail -20.  The messages show are not helpful07:34
Taya??07:34
Taya root@Taya:/home/taya# grep hcid /var/log/daemon.log | tail -2007:35
alleeonly: grep hcid /var/log/daemon.log07:37
Tayahttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/72299507:38
alleeTaya: output of: uptime07:38
Taya21:39:40 up  2:45,  3 users,  load average: 0.62, 0.92, 0.8907:39
alleehave you multiple session/monitors running?07:42
Tayanot now..07:42
alleeTaya: it's strange that there's nothing about an adapter in the log ...07:43
alleeTaya: maybe the adapter is switch off by default in BIOS?  (without working hotkey, you can't turn it on and linxu kernel will not see it)07:44
Tayano, i have windouws too, and in windows it's working.07:44
Tayaand what about lcd monitor problem?07:46
alleedoes 'lsusb -v | grep -i blue' list something?07:46
Tayano07:47
alleeTaya: did you have a look at the LaptopTesting pages in wiki.ubuntu.com?07:47
alleeand dmidecode | grep -i blue?07:48
Tayanot now, sound was not working, and about one year ago, i was searching for something abou tsound.. but now, i just installed ubuntu and was surprized and happy sound was working.07:48
Tayai ahve not searched for anything yet..07:48
Tayaroot@Taya:/home/taya# dmidecode | grep -i blue07:48
Taya        Internal Reference Designator: CN12 - BLUETOOTH07:48
Tayalaptop details: http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/ASUS_W5_Laptops/prod.asp07:52
Tayaallee??07:54
Taya...07:57
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alleeTaya: sorry.  My user here has proble with an printout.  later ..07:58
Tayaok.....07:58
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jjesseRiddell: i never got that patch to commit for teh docs08:07
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apacheloggerhttp://amarok.kde.org/content/view/74/66/08:11
OculusAquilaehttp://www.thekatapult.org.uk cracked :(08:12
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alleeTaya: dmesg | grep -i blue   # or grep -i blue /var/log/kern.log{,.0}08:25
abattoirthe mood bar has been enabled in the amarok package... nice :) 08:26
Tayadmesg | grep -i blue >> nonw08:27
Tayanone08:27
Tayahttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/72310708:27
yuriyhi, i'm trying to get the source to the current kaffeine in dapper, but I can't get it to build, am i doing something wrong:08:28
yuriyi downloaded .orig.tar.gz and the diff.gz, extracted the orig, ran "zcat ../kaffeine_0.7.1-1.3ubuntu8.diff.gz | patch -p1"08:29
yuriywithout the patch it compiles, but with the patch i get this:   make[2] : Nothing to be done for `all-am'.       make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1      make: *** [all]  Error 2    *** Exited with status: 2 ***08:31
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apacheloggerRiddell: ping08:46
apacheloggeranyone with admin access to kubuntu.org around?08:51
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kwwiihehe, got another update for amarok?08:58
kwwiiRiddell is probably hiding from you :-)08:58
apacheloggerkwwii: no, finall 1.4.0 is out :P08:59
apachelogger*finally08:59
kwwii:-)08:59
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alleeTaya: pah, I've checked on a laptop without BT and kern.log msg are the same09:09
alleeTaya:  grep -i firm  /var/log/kern.log{,.0}09:11
alleeTaya: best (fwiw) guess I have is still that BT is disabled by default in BIOS.  Just that Windows driver enables it on startup09:12
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Tayaok, so i have to enable it in bios?09:14
alleeTaya: it's just a guess. Other possibility is that the buildin BT chip is not supported at all09:14
alleeTaya: At least I know I can set BT to off in BIOS with my Dell D600 (and switch later on via hotkey)09:15
Tayaok i will try later and report here. (probably it will be tomorrow, as it's late night now, and i will go to sleep soon..)09:17
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kmonkwwii: did you change today the bg of kubuntu kdm?09:39
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Tonio_hey ;)09:40
Tonio_mornfall_: ping ?09:40
kwwiikmon: well, last night, but yeah09:40
kmonyou forgot to update the screenshot files & preview file ;)09:40
kmonnothing important...09:41
kmoni've just noticed09:41
kwwiiouch09:41
kwwiiI even made an xcf for that purpose09:41
kwwiiok, will do...thanks for the tip09:41
kmonI assumed it wasn't worth a bug in launchpad.09:42
kwwiiwell, it is easily fixed09:43
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Tonio_hi kwwii, kmon09:48
kwwiihi Tonio_09:48
kwwiiTonio_: how's things?09:48
kmonhi Tonio_09:49
jjessehiya Tonio_09:49
Tonio_kwwii: quite nicelly ;) except my laptop has a ---reallt--- strange hardware issue09:49
Tonio_really09:49
Tonio_allee: ping ?09:50
Tonio_kwwii: and you ? just saw the new backgrounds, really ince :)09:50
alleeTonio_: pong09:50
Tonio_allee: you told me toma is working on codeine source code right ?09:50
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alleeyes. but I've seen no commit's in last 36 hours09:51
Tonio_allee: okay, I just wanted to know if he intends to become new upstream since old one apparently stopped maintaining it 09:52
alleeAFAIU pkgs work.  It's need a go at debina/copyrigh09:52
Tonio_allee: it is really nice, more stable than kaffeine, and doesn't crash konq09:52
Tonio_allee: it would be a perfect default player for edgy09:52
alleeTonio_: not Howels revived it09:52
Tonio_allee: he started again ? nice ;)09:52
allees/not/no,/09:52
alleeyes :) :)09:52
Tonio_allee: that's very nice to ear ;) it needs a few improvements, but the base is really excellent.......09:53
Tonio_allee: I don't think kaffeine will be stable someday, and since upstream seems to be interested to add audio, encoding functions etc.....09:53
Tonio_latest version is a mess, really09:53
alleeTonio_: honestly kaffeine is too complicated for me!09:53
Tonio_allee: I agree, we need a simpler player09:54
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Tonio_allee: kaffeine is too buggy too....09:55
kmonmy laptop's fan stops randomly :(09:55
Tonio_kmon: my laptop doesn't restart randomly :(((09:55
alleeTonio_: about default config: Installed a laptop from scratch in german.  nevertheless when I enter country/Region & language, language is US English and Country/region 'C'09:55
Tonio_and sometimt doesn't want to start at all09:55
Tonio_allee: and ?09:56
alleeTonio_: looks like it picks up from defaults  (nevertheless desktop is in german)09:56
kwwiiallee: I have the same bug09:56
Tonio_allee: very strange.......; what version did you install ?09:56
kwwiiI installed like that to test it09:56
alleeTonio_: I expected Language set to german and country/region Germany09:56
kwwiiand now I cannot change it09:56
Tonio_allee: is it for ALL kubuntu or just kde ?09:57
alleeTonio_: cd from 15 May afair09:57
kwwiiTonio_: btw...did you remove all the profiles from konqi?09:57
Tonio_kwwii: yes ;)09:57
kwwiiTonio_: well, there is a but now that konqi will not start09:57
Tonio_allee: is gwenview in english too ?09:58
Tonio_just a test :)09:58
alleeTonio_: /etc/environment is right.  Desktop is in German.  But the kcm module settings are wrong09:58
kwwiiI think we need to leave at least the simple "web-browsing" and "file manager" profiles in09:58
Tonio_allee: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?09:58
Tonio_allee: it would be nice if I could have a look at your desktop to really understand whare is the issue09:59
kwwiiI do not even have the possiblity to change it to anything else09:59
Tonio_allee: would you be okay for a 5 minutes vnc session ?09:59
kwwiionly en packages are installed09:59
alleeTonio_: I assume (well wild guess) that if nothing is set it uses LC_* LANGUAGE stuff. But kcm module is not that flexible09:59
Tonio_kwwii: did you try to use the language support tool ?10:00
kwwiiwhat is that?10:00
kwwiiI tried to change my settings in "system preferences"10:00
alleeTonio_: everything is German and works.  It's just the kcm module that shows different value.10:00
kwwiimy base system is German10:00
Tonio_kwwii: a kubutu tool to manage languages packs and set default value10:00
kwwiiahhhh10:00
kwwiinope, never tried that10:01
Tonio_kwwii: try it ;)10:01
kwwiiI learn 10 new things about ubuntu every day10:01
kwwiiand I have to say this now:10:01
Tonio_kwwii: hehe10:01
alleeI assume your desktop is french? :)  So just create a new user. log in.  goto country/region and language settings.  I'm sure you find the same as I did.  English defaults10:01
kwwiiI like working with the kubuntu people a lot more than the ubuntu ones10:01
Tonio_allee: did you check your config in that tool too ?10:01
Tonio_kwwii: hu ? is that that different ?10:01
alleekwwii: maybe we don't hug that often like ubuntu? :)10:02
Tonio_allee: okay let me test this10:02
kwwiidude, they have an irc channel and mailing list just for the artwork stuff10:02
kwwiiartwork by commitee sucks10:02
Tonio_allee: no pb here.......10:04
Tonio_allee: would you like me to look at your desktop with vnc maybe ?10:04
Tonio_that could help....10:04
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Tonio_hum; okay, I have english default yes10:06
Tonio_but I can change it to french10:06
alleeTonio_: no, campus firewall10:07
Tonio_allee: okay I know10:08
alleeTonio_: yes I can also change to german and deutsch.  It's just strange that this is not already selected10:08
Tonio_allee: it is not a bug but a usability issuie10:08
Tonio_you cannot change laguage since you dont't have langpacks installed10:08
alleeTonio_: I would say that low prio, yes10:08
Tonio_then when you select another language, it keeps printing english10:08
Tonio_allee: install the german langpacks, then you will be able to change10:08
Tonio_and concerning english printed at first launch, this is because the file isn't defined in your .kde10:09
Tonio_allee: use the language support in K menu / System10:09
Tonio_install german support, and you will be able to change in kcm module10:09
alleeTonio_: no. everything working already in german.  The installation did everything right.  It's just that the kcm module does not reflect the changes that KDE is actually using already ;)10:09
allees/changes/settings/10:10
Tonio_allee: hum....... in fact that can be due to the fact we currently have 2 langpacks.....10:10
Tonio_the ones built by pitti and the kde ones10:10
Tonio_allee: may I have a look via vnc or not ?10:10
Tonio_just o compare with my config 10:10
Tonio_since it works here10:10
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alleeTonio_: you can't. The tcp connection has to be esthabisheled from here.  Sorry.  Screenshot?10:11
Tonio_allee: can you come on my computer then ?10:11
alleeTonio_: yes, for outgoing almost nothing is blocked10:12
Tonio_allee: pv10:13
Tonio_allee: I agree that's irritating ;)10:23
pygiRiddell, poke10:35
kwwiihrm, why doesn't my kmail do spell chekcing anymore?10:46
kwwiiit says I need to add either ispell or aspell to my path10:46
kwwiibut I have aspell-en installed10:46
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kwwiikwwii@isaac:~$ which aspell10:47
kwwii/usr/bin/aspell10:47
kwwiikwwii@isaac:~$ echo $PATH10:47
kwwii/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games10:47
kwwiidrunkenlogger: what the fsck is up with this amarok crap? (/me loves giving drunk people shit)10:48
drunkenloggerwhich amaroK crap?10:49
kwwiisorry, just seeing if I could provoke you :-)10:49
kwwiiI note how you spell it correctly, nicely done :-)10:49
pygikwwii, will you be able to provide me assistance with artwork for bzr-ui? :)10:49
kwwiibzr-ui?10:49
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kwwiiwhat is it?10:50
drunkenloggerkwwii: peeh, after working 4 days, day and night (with less than enough sleep) provking me is quite hard :P10:50
kwwiidrunkenlogger: lol, I know the feeling10:50
kwwiicongrats on getting the release out the door10:50
pygikwwii, well Bazaar Graphical User Interface :)10:50
drunkenloggerkwwii: hehe, thanks :)10:50
kwwiipygi: wow, sounds scary, what is it10:50
pygikwwii, argh, its not that scary :)10:51
pygiwell, bazaar is RCS, and GUI is just GUI :P10:51
kwwiiI'll help in any way I have time to help :-910:51
pygihehe :)10:51
pygioki, thanks :)10:52
kwwiican you point me to any information?10:52
pygieh, nothing is needed at this moment...10:52
pygiI'll help in any way I have time to help :-910:52
pygiargh, wrong paste :P10:52
kwwiilol10:52
pygihttp://bazaar-vcs.org/GraphicalUserInterface10:52
pygikinda outdated and all, but still :)10:52
kwwiipygi: love to help10:53
kwwiiwe can even update the website :-)10:53
pygithanks :-P10:53
pygiand even make a proper UI :-)10:53
kwwiideal :-)10:53
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pygianything I can do for you? :)10:54
kwwiitell mark to extend my contract :-)10:54
kwwiijsut kidding10:54
kwwiis/jsut/just10:54
pygiI am sure he will :P10:55
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robotgeekRiddell: ping, do you still need someone to apply?11:20
pygirobotgeek, for  what? :-/11:20
robotgeekpygi: kubuntu-docs11:21
pygiah11:21
robotgeekhe had a patch, i think it has been applied. just making sure11:21
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Riddellrobotgeek: no, thanks11:31
pygiRiddell, it seems you'll be getting KDE interface for Bzr after all :)11:32
Riddelloh?11:32
robotgeekRiddell: sorry, but was away from computer for past 2 days11:32
pygiRiddell, yea, I'll be implementing it :)11:32
Riddellpygi: cool11:33
Riddellpygi: just for kicks?11:33
pygihm, what do you mean? :-/11:33
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pygiRiddell, any explanation? :)11:35
Riddellpygi: what made you decide to do that?11:38
pygiRiddell, well, I wanna get more involved into KDE community :)11:38
pygi011:39
pygie011:39
Riddellexcellent11:39
pygiargh, damn keyboard :)11:39
Riddellpresumably you've done python before, done any qt/kde?11:40
pygiI have never really been involved with KDE, and this should be a good start (together with Amarok gst)11:40
pygiRiddell, yes, ofcourse...just never anything for KDE :)11:40
pygiargh, wrong typing...nothing that was part of KDE in any way...mostly applications I needed, etc.11:40
pygino worries, it'll all be good :)11:42
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achhi raphink11:43
raphinkhi ach11:44
kwwiiach du schiesse11:44
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kwwii:-)11:44
kwwiisorry11:44
pygi:)11:44
kwwiicouldn't help myself11:44
raphinkkwwii: pfff11:44
achkwwii: np ;)11:44
kwwiiallee is so much nicer11:44
robotgeekdot.kde.org opens up career prospects. looks...11:44
kwwiithat is a saying I have learned since I lived in Germany11:45
kwwiinot my fault11:45
achkwwii: yes, but I don't remember my freenet pw.  Thx to kdewallet ;)11:45
kwwiilol11:45
kwwiirotfl11:45
kwwiinow that is good11:45
kwwiisounds like me11:45
Riddellrobotgeek: hmm?11:45
robotgeekhttp://dot.kde.org/1147698188/ has a company interview. went to their website, and guess what: they have an opening in my area :)11:46
pygiRiddell, what are we to do with all those Kubuntu applications? :-/11:48
pygiI don't think that guy who appeared yesterday is capable of doing such a complex and "much thinking needed" task :-/11:48
pygiand the other guy for formatting isnt responding11:48
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DaSkreechWhere did kalimoto-miracle- lemon.ogg come from?11:50
kwwiino idea11:51
kwwiibut I have been thinking of how to add a kubuntu ogg file11:51
kwwiiunfortunatley my son does not play guitar well enough yet11:51
DaSkreechkwwii: Again?11:51
DaSkreechA Theora ogg file?11:52
kwwiiDaSkreech: no idea where it comes from...just pulling shit out of my ass11:52
kwwiiwell, it is an ogg11:52
kwwiiso yeah11:52
DaSkreechIt could be a vorbis file 11:53
achTaya: ping11:56
Tayapong11:56
achNow I've (allee) have some spare time for your questions11:57
Tayathx11:57
Tayai have a loooooots of questions..11:57
Taya:)11:57
achoh, oh11:58
AlinuxOSTaya, mamma mia :)11:58
Riddellpygi: if you don't think he's capable then don't give him your points11:58
AlinuxOSGirl Rulez! :)11:58
pygiRiddell, ergh, I just wanted your opinion :-/11:58
achif it's not -devel releated we better with to other channel (maybe #kubuntu?)11:58
Tayalcd problem.11:58
kwwiiDaSkreech: good point, no idea11:59
Tayai on;t know what problem it is..11:59
DaSkreechWho is in charge of System Settings?11:59
Riddellpygi: I don't disagree with you :)11:59
kwwiiDaSkreech: god11:59
pygiRiddell, nice then :)11:59
pygithen we should vote him down :P11:59
DaSkreechkwwii: Normally has better work :-(12:00
pygiRiddell, perhaps he is capable enough to do that Wine stuff tho? :-/12:00
kwwiiDaSkreech: what don't you like?12:00
DaSkreechkwwii: Two things 12:01
DaSkreechOne is that it's unusable with the keyboard12:01
kwwiiwhich is a totally valid point12:01
kwwiiprobably the best I have heard yet12:01
DaSkreechSecond is that when you search for things then tabbing should only go to valid choices not through everything as if you didn't just search12:03
Tayaarch: >> #kubuntu channel >>  questions12:03

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