[12:07] <urashima> hi all, i have a question...is secure to update from breezy to dapper now? I mean, I had a lot of problems with development version and I'm afraid of them to appear on an update
[12:09] <DaSkreech> urashima: Short answer is no
[12:09] <DaSkreech> urashima: What are you using your computer for?
[12:10] <urashima> just for everything, that's why I'm asking
[12:10] <DaSkreech> urashima: If you have doubts then wait the two weeks ;)
[12:11] <urashima> just as I thought :D
[12:11] <urashima> thank you for the help :)
[12:13] <DaSkreech> urashima: I know people who wait till it's out for a few weeks just to make sure :)
[12:14] <DaSkreech> People like me are refreshing the server for dapper+1 as soon as the dapper CD stops burning.
[12:15] <urashima> sounds hard working
[12:15] <EvilIdler> I've got Dapper on my LAN fileserver here, and the only problem is Jabber randomly crashing. It could be memory. but it's ONLY that program :/
[12:16] <urashima> I mainly had problems with apt-get package dependencies
[12:16] <EvilIdler> I downloaded an image, installed, had no other problems, so I'm not even updating unless a jabber package shows up :)
[12:17] <DaSkreech> urashima: lol
[12:17] <DaSkreech> urashima: You did a partial upgrade to dapper?
[12:17] <urashima> no, I downloaded a flight cd some time ago
[12:17] <urashima> i did a fresh installation
[12:18] <DaSkreech> and you had package dependencies?
[12:18] <urashima> well, when I tried to install some packages, apt-get returned this type of error
[12:19] <DaSkreech> urashima: Did you try to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:19] <DaSkreech> that normally fixes that problem
[12:20] <urashima> mmmmm....I can't remember well....so, there's no problem with packages at all? maybe I didn't try dapper sufficient time :P
[12:37] <Poker> some know why i have this error "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" ???
[12:37] <EvilIdler> You need x11-dev, or something
[12:37] <urashima> i think you had to install kde-libs
[12:37] <Poker> ehm...
[12:37] <urashima> kde-libs will intall x11-dev and all that if i'm not mistaken
[12:38] <Poker> ok...i will try to install kde-libs
[12:38] <Poker> thanks
[12:38] <EvilIdler> x-dev is the core package for X development, anyway
[12:38] <ubuntu> hi..i updated to dapper and when i restarted i get to a point where there is no graphical interface and only a black screen like a konsole..what can i do?
[12:38] <TechHut> man
[12:38] <TechHut> i did apt-get upgrade
[12:38] <TechHut> i have like 250 packages needing upgrade
[12:39] <EvilIdler> That's not uncommon :)
[12:40] <ubuntu> anyone?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> where do i go to change startup apps in kubuntu?
[12:42] <ubuntu> hi..i updated to dapper and when i restarted i get to a point where there is no graphical interface and only a black screen like a konsole..what can i do?
[12:43] <urashima> ubuntu where you using nvidia driver?
[12:43] <urashima> were*
[12:45] <ubuntu> urashima: no
[12:46] <TechHut> ok
[12:46] <TechHut> I am using Konversation right now
[12:46] <ubuntu> or i dont know
[12:46] <urashima> then i dont know what can be causing this, sorry :(
[12:47] <ubuntu> is there a command that opens the interface?
[12:47] <urashima> startx
[12:47] <ubuntu> thanx
[12:47] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:48] <ubuntu> i will try it..thanx
[12:55] <r0xz> is there any change gam
[12:55] <r0xz> gam_server will be fixed before RC?
[12:55] <r0xz> chance
[12:55] <Kryis> hi, i'm having a problem with konqueror. It seems to refuse to open. When i click on the icon it appears on the taskbar and i get the bouncing icon, then after about 10 seconds it just ddisappears
[12:56] <EvilIdler> Kryis: Try running Konq from a konsole or xterm
[12:58] <Kryis> I get "ScimInputContextPlugin()" and nothing else
[12:58] <EvilIdler> That isn't saying much :(
[12:58] <EvilIdler> Try removing the konq package and reinstalling it?
[12:58] <urashima> well, maybe the problem is scim
[12:58] <EvilIdler> What's scim?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> scim is crap is you ask me :(
[12:59] <urashima> is a program for input in languages like japanese and all that
[01:00] <Kryis> is there any way to just remove konq? it seems to want to remove kubuntu-desktop too if i do apt-get uninstall konqueror
[01:00] <EvilIdler> kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Kryis: if you give me a few mins i will head back to kde adn see what i can pull up
[01:00] <EvilIdler> So you can remove konq, then install kubuntu-desktop again
[01:02] <Kryis> have tried removing it and installing again, with no luck
[01:02] <urashima> kryis do you use scim or skim?
[01:03] <freddirkse> hi all. hoping someone can possibly shed some light on a time/date issue I'm having
[01:03] <erov> shoot.. i'm sure someone will try
[01:04] <Kryis> errrrr.....pass
[01:04] <urashima> kryis maybe you'd better try to remove scim I think it's what's causing you trouble
[01:04] <urashima> it caused me trouble time ago when I tried to use it
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> freddirkse: what is the problem ?
[01:05] <freddirkse> kubuntu 5.10., amd64-x2.  system is set to UTC, /etc/timezone to America/Chicago.  If I set my clock to show Local Time, it shows UTC....this seems to be causing issues w/ Kontact and some other apps also
[01:05] <jake> Kryis: Try renaming ~/.kde to ~/old.kde then launch konq
[01:05] <Kryis> scim seems to be linked to ubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <gnomefreak> Kryis: i think its linked to all the desktop meta packages
[01:05] <EvilIdler> That's also a meta-package, so no problem
[01:06] <urashima> yeah
[01:06] <Kryis> what exactly do the meta-packages contain?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Kryis: all the apps you see infront of you lol
[01:06] <ports> hey
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> freddirkse: is UTC the same as GMT - what is the bios clock set to ? what is the offset for America/Chicago
[01:06] <EvilIdler> They just make lots of packages install. When you remove them, nothing disappears.
[01:06] <ports> upgrading to Dapper messed up my system
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Kryis: if you installed gnome it would give you very little apps with it
[01:07] <gnomefreak> EvilIdler: if you install with aptitude you can remove most if not all apps with the de package
[01:07] <EvilIdler> So kubuntu-desktop is all of KDE and other neat stuff related to Kubuntu. ubuntu-desktop is Gnome and possibly more
[01:07] <freddirkse> yes, apparently UTC is the "new" way to refer to GMT
[01:07] <freddirkse> offset is -6 I believe
[01:07] <freddirkse> bios clock is set to my local time
[01:08] <Kryis> but removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't remove all of the packages?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> Kryis: no
[01:08] <EvilIdler> A simple apt-get remove doesn't, no
[01:08] <gnomefreak> aptitude remove will though :)
[01:08] <freddirkse> if I select America/Chicago in Show Timezone in my clock, it is correct
[01:08] <Kryis> i have removed scim, and it makes no diffreence
[01:08] <freddirkse> showing Localtime though shows UTC/GMT
[01:08] <gnomefreak> its easier than remembering libqt3-mt and whatever gnomes lib is
[01:08] <EvilIdler> I don't think it's a good idea to have unexpected things happen in aptitude, though :&
[01:09] <gnomefreak> somethings your right i agree
[01:09] <gnomefreak> again with the damn egg_desktop errors :(
[01:11] <Poker> for the make and make install command is better to use sudo?
[01:11] <EvilIdler> For the make install, yes
[01:11] <Poker> ok thanks
[01:11] <gnomefreak> Poker: make no make install you have to but i perfer checkinstall
[01:11] <Poker> checkinstall?
[01:11] <EvilIdler> Yeah, checkinstall is great
[01:11] <Kryis> hmm, any other suggesstions?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> Poker: checkinstall makes a .deb package from the tar
[01:12] <gnomefreak> make install doesnt
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> freddirkse: Try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and say that the system time is set to Chicago
[01:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Poker about checkinstall
[01:12] <klerfayt> how can I become member of the cdrom group so that I don't have to sudo k3b to burn cd's?
[01:12] <Poker> ok thanks
[01:13] <gnomefreak> i dont remember ever needing sudo for k3b
[01:14] <klerfayt> it refuses to burn cd's
[01:14] <EvilIdler> I'm burning just fine with K3B
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> Your user does need to be in the cdrom group though
[01:14] <klerfayt> if run it as normal user
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ok brb need to reboot
[01:14] <EvilIdler> I can't change settings, though, because it says I have no write access to /home
[01:14] <freddirkse> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales regenerated my local list, but never asked me for timezone
[01:14] <klerfayt> I just burned cd with root permissions
[01:14] <EvilIdler> freddirkse: tzconfig
[01:14] <klerfayt> cause I couldn't d oit as normal user
[01:15] <freddirkse> tzconfig said my current time is America/Chicago
[01:15] <freddirkse> if I do a date though I get: Tue May 16 23:15:38 UTC 2006
[01:16] <EvilIdler> tzselect, then?
[01:16] <freddirkse> and if I set my clock Show Timzone to Local Timezone, I get the same UTC time
[01:17] <freddirkse> hmmm.  tzselect results:
[01:17] <freddirkse> Therefore TZ='America/Chicago' will be used.
[01:17] <freddirkse> Local time is now:      Tue May 16 18:16:48 CDT 2006.
[01:17] <freddirkse> Universal Time is now:  Tue May 16 23:16:48 UTC 2006.
[01:17] <lwizardl> hi
[01:18] <EvilIdler> Yes, that looks correct.
[01:18] <EvilIdler> Local time is what you care about.
[01:18] <lwizardl> how do i remove all partitions from a drive and reformat so i can mount it
[01:18] <EvilIdler> UTC is how the system stores time, so you can synchronise against the rest of the world.
[01:18] <freddirkse> ...yeah, same clock results though.   It says I need to append the variable to my .profile and logout/login
[01:18] <EvilIdler> freddirkse: Are you running tzconfig with sudo?
[01:19] <freddirkse> Evildler: yes, but it was already set to America/Chicago
[01:19] <EvilIdler> freddirkse: Does your clock show UTC or local time in the panel?
[01:20] <freddirkse> If I do an Adjust Date Time, after entering my root password, it says my localtime is UTC
[01:20] <freddirkse> ...and now it won't open..lol :)
[01:20] <EvilIdler> freddirkse: Remove /etc/localtime and try again :)
[01:21] <EvilIdler> After that, I'm out of ideas :/
[01:21] <freddirkse> ...I have no /etc/localtime
[01:22] <EvilIdler> Aha
[01:22] <freddirkse> I have /etc/timezone
[01:22] <EvilIdler> Now you just need to figure out why it wasn't created ;)
[01:22] <freddirkse> interesting
[01:22] <freddirkse> what should be in it?
[01:22] <EvilIdler> What does the timezone file say?
[01:22] <freddirkse> America/Chicago
[01:23] <EvilIdler> The /etc/localtime file is a binary TZ config file, not readable as such
[01:23] <EvilIdler> At least the timezone file is right
[01:23] <freddirkse> ah.
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> freddirkse: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales that should regenerate the /etc/localtime file
[01:24] <freddirkse> yes I did...however it didn't ask me for timezone info at all...just what locales to generate and then it recrated locales.gen
[01:24] <EvilIdler> freddirkse: There's something related to UTC in /etc/default/rcS - should be UTC=yes. Dunno if it changes anything, but..
[01:24] <freddirkse> yeah, that's there
[01:24] <freddirkse> UTC=yes
[01:25] <freddirkse> UTC underlying system time is ok, it just seems the apps aren't picking up my local timezone. Clock doesn't see it and other apps (like Kontact) don't see it either...all displyaing UTC
[01:26] <freddirkse> let me try tzselect again
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> look at /etc/adjtime don't ask me about the syntax but it also mentions UTC
[01:26] <jtmoney_> is editing /etc/network/interfaces the preferred method of configuring wireless? surely there has to be a better way
[01:27] <h3sp4wn> jtmoney: Which card ? Its the most reliable way in my experience
[01:27] <freddirkse> sudo tzselet. Still no /etc/localtime
[01:27] <jtmoney_> h3sp4wn, intel 2200bg... it works fine, i just need to set it to my preferred network and i'm not sure how to specify a key in /etc/network/interfaces like i can with iwconfig
[01:28] <jtmoney_> kwifimanager seems to flaky
[01:28] <EvilIdler> There's also a tzsetup command. I think it's just a different frontend to tzconfig
[01:28] <erov> well seems and is are two different things
[01:28] <EvilIdler> Exactly.
[01:28] <EvilIdler> You can't tell until you try :/
[01:28] <EvilIdler> Sometimes there are too many similar programs installed by default.
[01:29] <erov> the only problem i had was a newer firmware wouldnt work with my pci wireless.. the older firmware was included just not set by default.. i had to link the firmware to the correct ones
[01:29] <EvilIdler> With my working timezone, I can't tell what would make it not work :P
[01:29] <h3sp4wn> jtmoney: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (its all in there how to do it if you are using wpa)
[01:29] <freddirkse> ha ha, sudo tzsetup created the binary localtime file!
[01:29] <freddirkse> ...interesting
[01:29] <EvilIdler> Ooh
[01:30] <jtmoney_> h3sp4wn, it's wep
[01:30] <EvilIdler> Log out and back into X for good measure :)
[01:30] <freddirkse> woo hooo...clock seems to be working now...
[01:30] <erov> one of those crazy acx texas instruments thingies.. you should see how many "holy sh*t you're card is going to melt errors and recalibration" errors i get.. but i must say its performance is cool
[01:30] <jtmoney_> so apt-get upgrade installs all the security updates by default?
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> jtmoney_: just use pre-up iwconfig
[01:30] <erov> jtmone: the wifi management included with kubuntu should be fine for setting a WEP key
[01:31] <jtmoney_> h3sp4wn, pre-up iwconfig?
[01:31] <erov> aside from linking the firmware that's all i had to do
[01:31] <jtmoney_> erov, kwifimanager?
[01:31] <freddirkse> I'm going to logout/login and see if everything else works.
[01:31] <freddirkse> thanks for your help all, much appreciated
[01:32] <erov> no Network settings in System settings
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> jtmoney: add a line underneath iface ath0 that says pre-up iwconfig (and then use the same iwconfig you used to)
[01:32] <erov> err setup
[01:35] <jtmoney_> heh, that works
[01:35] <jtmoney_> i'm an idiot, i couldn't get to the button to access administrator mode
[01:35] <jtmoney_> so i just did sudo systemsettings and that worked
[01:36] <jtmoney_> okay, i can't find much info on this... should i run apt-get upgrade to install all the latest security fixes?
[01:38] <caligula> is there a problem with the servers?
[01:38] <caligula> all day I had weird stuff with apt
[01:38] <bilford> no
[01:38] <caligula> sometimes working, sometimes not..
[01:38] <caligula> alright.. guess it's only me then...
[01:39] <EvilIdler> Try a different repository
[01:39] <caligula> i'm using the default, proper ones..
[01:39] <caligula> at the moment it's working
[01:39] <caligula> it was on/off all day... just wondered
[01:39] <EvilIdler> But what is the default? That depends on your location in the world ;)
[01:40] <caligula> ah.. the uk one..
[01:40] <caligula> i didn't think about that.. good point
[01:40] <bilford> where can you see easily in Konqueror how much disk space you have left
[01:41] <jtmoney> can someone answer my question? how do i get the latest security updates? apt-get upgrade?
[01:41] <EvilIdler> Then the question is whether the UK mirror has a problem. Anyone know where it is - is it something like Kent Uni?
[01:41] <ubuntu> HOLA
[01:41] <caligula> i think it's the kent one
[01:41] <ubuntu> algun espaniol_
[01:41] <caligula> try in start-here:/
[01:41] <caligula> about the disk space
[01:42] <ubuntu> como instalo mi card bus en ubuntu
[01:42] <jtmoney> !updates
[01:42] <ubotu> jtmoney: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:44] <bilford> hm
[01:45] <jtmoney> wtf?
[01:45] <jtmoney> is this a joke?
[01:45] <jtmoney> how do i install security updates?
[01:45] <jtmoney> wiki has nothing
[01:46] <caligula> just do apt-get dist-upgrade..
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> aptitude -v -v -v -v -v moo
[01:46] <erov> dude
[01:46] <EvilIdler> jtmoney: There should be a reference you can uncomment in the sources.list
[01:46] <caligula> when the security repository is enabled
[01:46] <EvilIdler> Then upgrade as usual
[01:46] <erov>  .. /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:46] <erov> or edit it through adept
[01:46] <erov> (the defaults with kubuntu)
[01:47] <jtmoney> i don't know how to upgrade as usual, i just know in ubuntu (w/ gnome) it notified me and i said "yes" or something and it installed all of them
[01:47] <jtmoney> i already typed apt-get upgrade and i have no idea what that did
[01:47] <erov> same deal with kubuntu
[01:47] <jtmoney> or why i would want to upgrade the distribution
[01:47] <erov> same deal.
[01:47] <EvilIdler> jtmoney: Update means to get a list of updates. Upgrade means to actually fetch and install those.
[01:48] <EvilIdler> Use adept or similar to handle it
[01:48] <erov> yes.. use adept the program all should be regulated through it and youll see an icon in the "tray"
[01:48] <erov> if updates are found from time to time
[01:49] <jefferson> Anyone uses 64 bit kubuntu?
[01:52] <jtmoney_> erov, so how will it notify me if their are new security updates available?
[01:52] <jtmoney_> adept will somehow?
[01:53] <bilford> an icon appears in the tray
[01:53] <jtmoney_> ohh okay
[01:54] <jtmoney_> so the iso that i downloaded of kubuntu had most of the security updates applied already?
[01:54] <jtmoney_> is that why it didn't pop up w/ any security updates?
[01:54] <bilford> do you have Dapper
[01:54] <bilford> or Breezy
[01:54] <jtmoney_> breezy
[01:55] <bilford> usually after a fresh install, you update a few hundered updates
[01:55] <bilford> it does it automatically
[01:55] <bilford> you double click that ! icon
[01:56] <jtmoney_> that ! icon never came up w/ kubuntu
[01:56] <jtmoney_> it did with ubuntu
[01:56] <jtmoney_> wireless works fine, i'm on it right now
[01:56] <erov> how periodically is adept-update run?
[01:56] <erov> (not to you jtmoney)
[01:57] <erov> i know at times.. i'll wake up and there'll be update.. and at times.. if i log in or out.. the updates will be there, as they werent before
[01:57] <bilford> no idea
[01:58] <jefferson> ANYONE USES 64 BIT KUBUNTU?
[01:58] <erov> so it just may not have attempted to "update" since you've got the wireless working
[01:58] <jtmoney_> gotcha
[01:58] <jtmoney_> is it a cron job or something i could run manually?
[01:58] <erov> i was looking for the command
[01:58] <jtmoney_> jefferson, not here
[01:58] <bilford> it's all automated
[01:58] <erov> hold up
[01:59] <jefferson> Houston, we got a problem
[01:59] <erov> i'd try logging in and out of the desktop just to force it.. since you probably want the updates now.. but there is a way to manually run (clicking on the ! reveals the EXACT command.. hehe damn)
[02:00] <jtmoney_> i already ran apt-get upgrade
[02:00] <jtmoney_> that probably did all the security updates and then some
[02:00] <erov> did it look like it went through the motions?
[02:00] <jtmoney_> yes
[02:00] <erov> prolly so, in that case
[02:00] <jefferson> When i run CS (counter-strike), it goes to HL window, than i click on "change game" and it don't find any mods....
[02:00] <jtmoney_> and adept has only 3 pacakges that are "upgradeable" left
[02:00] <erov> yeah then youve updated most
[02:01] <jefferson> When i run CS (counter-strike), it goes to HL window, than i click on "change game" and it don't find any mods....
[02:01] <jtmoney_> is that pretty healthy anyways? to upgrade all the non-security updates as well
[02:01] <jtmoney_> hah, look at jefferson
[02:01] <jefferson> im running on cedega
[02:01] <bilford> btw, do you know about  Alt+F@
[02:01] <bilford> btw, do you know about  Alt+F2
[02:01] <bilford> type adept
[02:01] <jefferson> yeahhhhhhh look at mee....i need help
[02:01] <jefferson> When i run CS (counter-strike), it goes to HL window, than i click on "change game" and it don't find any mods....
[02:01] <jefferson> im running on cedega
[02:02] <bilford> jtmoney:
[02:02] <bilford> Alt+F2  ,, then type adept
[02:02] <darkelf> oi kids
[02:03] <jtmoney_> i'm running adept
[02:03] <bilford> Then click Fetch Updates
[02:03] <bilford> no
[02:03] <bilford> the other one
[02:03] <lwizardl> how do i format a blank drive and mount it using kde
[02:03] <bilford> the advanced one
[02:04] <bilford> thats all you need to know
[02:04] <jtmoney_> advanced one?
[02:04] <bilford> yes
[02:04] <bilford> close
[02:04] <erov> look at the mkfs. files
[02:04] <bilford> Tyep  Alt+F2
[02:04] <bilford> and enter  adept
[02:04] <jtmoney_> i ran sudo adept from a shell prompt
[02:04] <bilford> oh
[02:04] <jtmoney_> it was readonly as adept
[02:04] <jtmoney_> i don't see advacned?
[02:05] <bilford> are you going to try  Alt+F2
[02:05] <bilford> type adept
[02:05] <bilford> get the GUI
[02:05] <jtmoney_> i'm there
[02:05] <erov> look in /sbin wizard at the mkfs. files.. run the one you want to format the fs as
[02:05] <jtmoney_> i don't see advanced?
[02:05] <bilford> isnt there a Fetch Updates button at the top left
[02:05] <erov> i mean fs=drive..
[02:06] <bilford> Adept Manager 1.92 is my version
[02:06] <erov>  like this.. mkfs.msdos /dev/sda1 (as an example)
[02:06] <erov> of course you must sudo.. being in ubuntu
[02:06] <erov> sudo mkfs.msdos /dev/sda1
[02:06] <erov> and so on
[02:06] <ahmeni> lwizardl: If you want to format with a GUI, there's qtparted
[02:06] <jtmoney_> yes there is fetch updates
[02:06] <bilford> click it
[02:07] <erov> well fetch'em
[02:07] <jtmoney_> mine is 1.0
[02:07] <erov> :p
[02:07] <bilford> Im running Dapper
[02:07] <jtmoney_> ohhhhhhhhhh
[02:07] <jtmoney_> that's why i don't see advanced
[02:07] <jtmoney_> ;)
[02:07] <bilford> there is no advanced
[02:08] <bilford> I thought you were on the Add/Remove Programs app
[02:08] <erov> hah
[02:08] <jtmoney_> okay
[02:08] <erov> we are all one big charlie foxtrot
[02:08] <jtmoney_> hahaha
[02:08] <bilford> do a fresh install of Kubntu 6.06 Flight 7
[02:09] <jtmoney_> hmm k
[02:09] <jtmoney> on my windows box now ;)
[02:10] <bilford> I switched from Windows last week
[02:10] <evilelf> ohhh, death to autotools while I'm at it...
[02:10] <erov> would a FULL upgrade work?
[02:11] <bilford> are  you talking to me
[02:11] <erov> yes 5.10-6.06
[02:11] <bilford> I think fresh install is better personally
[02:11] <bilford> but you can do a full upgrade
[02:11] <jtmoney> should i apt-get distupgrade?
[02:11] <bilford> cant you do a fresh install
[02:11] <erov> my wife's pc is running 5.10
[02:11] <bilford> get the CD image
[02:12] <evilelf> apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:12] <erov> i was thinking of moving her on over
[02:12] <evilelf> make sure your sources.list are accurate
[02:12] <bilford> or you can wait 2 weeks
[02:12] <jtmoney> i'm downloading the iso right now
[02:12] <evilelf> s/are/is/
[02:12] <bilford> for the official release
[02:13] <erov> only 2 weeks now? mm
[02:13] <bilford> unless it got delayed
[02:13] <jtmoney> so can i go right from flight 7 -> final?
[02:13] <bilford> I think it comes out June 1
[02:13] <bilford> yes
[02:13] <jtmoney> (when it's out)
[02:13] <jtmoney> cool
[02:14] <bilford> dont forget to save your browser boookmarks
[02:14] <bilford> I always forget that when I do a fresh install
[02:15] <EvilIdler> Opera bookmarks are safe, though ;)
[02:15] <bilford> why
[02:15] <lwizardl> ok i have my hdb1 formated and mounted but i can't put any files into it how do I add my username to write acess ?
[02:15] <erov> any of you have much success converting video into dvd-video (mpeg2) ? i can do so.. but when i view the file the length is messed up and if i go to author a dvd the video files lap over each other, etc
[02:16] <bilford> lwizardl:  System Settings
[02:16] <bilford> Disks & Filesystems
[02:16] <bilford> Administrator Mode, bottom right
[02:16] <bilford> then you can Enable, and change permissions
[02:17] <lwizardl> where do i find the system settings i don't see it
[02:18] <bilford> In the start menu
[02:18] <bilford> I guess my advice is worthless, since Im using 6.06
[02:18] <bilford> it's probably all different in 5.05
[02:18] <lwizardl> i'm using 5.10
[02:19] <bilford> I messed something up.  I keep getting an error:  Could not find mime type -  application/octet-stream
[02:19] <bilford> how do I fix that
[02:20] <erov> its in the start menu still wizard
[02:22] <lwizardl> i see system but not a system settings in either system or ultilites
[02:22] <jtmoney> Kawabunga! The traditional KDE Control Center has been replaced with KDE System Settings. This change is not part of KDE, but is unique to Kubuntu. The new interface is cleaner, faster, simpler and comes with improved usability features such as quick search.
[02:22] <jtmoney> sweet
[02:23] <jtmoney> oh wait, is that for 5.10?
[02:23] <jtmoney> =(
[02:23] <jtmoney> damn, what's new w/ dapper?
[02:23] <erov> arghargh
[02:23] <jtmoney> erov: pirate?
[02:25] <erov> heh
[02:27] <bilford> I need a Kubuntu Activation crack
[02:28] <jtmoney_> haha
[02:28] <crimsun> yeah, my Kubuntu expires. Anyone got a keygen?
[02:29] <aseigo> you can use mine
[02:29] <aseigo> F38484-JGJ3838383-GJDK282DJ389J-38438J3838DJD
[02:29] <crimsun> sweet
[02:29] <aseigo> damn things keep getting longer and longer every year
[02:31] <stevekl> Hm, I'm having trouble adding a search keyword with firefox 1.5
[02:31] <stevekl> can anyone help?
[02:31] <bilford> lol
[02:32] <stevekl> -oh nevermind
[02:43] <jtmoney> hah, w/ flight 7... the boot-up screen is just like suse
[02:43] <jtmoney> i'm sure it's a program... w/ the check cd, etc.
[02:43] <bilford> you install from inside the Live version
[02:44] <evilelf> Grrrrr
[02:44] <jtmoney> i got dapper-install-i386.iso
[02:48] <evilelf> libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.3.5.so
[02:48] <evilelf> it's there damnit
[02:48] <evilelf> GNIIIII
[02:54] <CaBlGuY> anyone alive?
[02:55] <shawkins> nah....
[02:55] <CaBlGuY> okey..
[02:55] <CaBlGuY> :p
[02:55] <CaBlGuY> ever ripped a DVD in Ubuntu b4?
[02:55] <evilelf> RTFM :)
[02:56] <CaBlGuY> Huh?
[02:57] <nikkiana> I've got an issue... (Or more accurately, my fiance has an issue... He's just afraid of IRC...)
[02:58] <evilelf> CaBlGuY, Read the fine manual.... and consult the google
[02:58] <CaBlGuY> G thnaks a bunch elf..  :-|
[02:58] <CaBlGuY> thanks even...
[02:59] <nikkiana> I guess he tried to install the Java Run Time environment, somewhere halfway through the package manager crapped out and he hasn't been able to use the package manager since because it says something's using it but he can't seem to find a process that's using it.
[02:59] <CaBlGuY> has he rebooted since it crashed?
[03:00] <nikkiana> CaBlGuY: yes.
[03:00] <nikkiana> hense the confusion.
[03:00] <nikkiana> (and if i don't get him to shut up about it, i'm going to clobber him)
[03:01] <CaBlGuY> ok, so, he need sto update his dev's on the command promt, and finish the install
[03:01] <CaBlGuY> so, clobber him already, and get it overwith..  ;o)
[03:01] <wasp_ems> where do i create icons on the desktop from??ie home etc..do i need to make a link via url etc?
[03:02] <nikkiana> CaBlGuY: thanks, i'll give that a shot.
[03:02] <CaBlGuY> wasp_ems,  not sure about that one, not created icons yet.. :p
[03:03] <wasp_ems> :)
[03:03] <CaBlGuY> yur welcome nikkiana  hope it works.. ;)
[03:03] <CaBlGuY> anyway, bbl..
[03:03] <nikkiana> CaBlGuY: i hope so too. :)
[03:03] <CaBlGuY> *p00f*
[03:10] <bojan> overall volume in my amaroK is too low (even with its volume @100 and my KMix @ 100), where in XMMS it is a lot better?  is there anything I can do about this? amaroK 1.3.8, breezy.
[03:10] <bilford> well
[03:10] <bilford> XMMS adjusts the system PCM volume
[03:10] <bilford> Go to the Mixer
[03:10] <bilford> raise PCM
[03:11] <bilford> or you can adjust it with XMMS
[03:21] <wasp_ems> ok i deleted desktop from my home file and now i cannot see any icons on my desktop..what can i do?
[03:23] <erov> how did you delete it? rm command or did you drag it to trash somehow
[03:23] <wasp_ems> i pressed shift delete
[03:24] <wasp_ems> any ideas?
[03:24] <Skrot> wasp_ems: I think KDE generates a new Desktop-dir when you restart KDE. But you won't get any custom desktop icons back (as they where in Desktop/)
[03:24] <wasp_ems> Skrot: if it does not come back what can i do?
[03:25] <Skrot> Not quite sure. You might have better luck asking in #kde
[03:25] <wasp_ems> ok..thanx
[03:32] <wasp_ems> how do u make files hidden?
[03:33] <Snake[Away] > wasp_ems: put a dot before them
[03:33] <Snake[Away] > before the file name
[03:33] <wasp_ems> thanx
[03:34] <Snake[Away] > yep
[03:34] <wasp_ems> is it possible for me to get rid of the desktop icon in the home folder?
[03:40] <Cyorxamp> is the next dapper Kubuntu still set for June 1st?
[03:46] <fabioFx> any work with pgadmin3?
[03:46] <fabioFx> in my kubuntu it dont open...
[03:50] <erov> wasp_emu you might try seeing if you can set your Desktop directory to be elsewhere
[03:54] <yuriy> Cyorxamp yeah
[03:56] <wasp_ems> can anyone guide me through on how to install a bootsplash screen?
[04:25] <jtmoney_> wow, flight 7 is even more solid
[04:25] <jtmoney_> good job
[04:26] <bilford> did you get the 200 updates
[04:26] <jtmoney_> hah, yes
[04:26] <jtmoney_> with the "!" just like you said
[04:26] <jtmoney_> konversation is nice, i think i like it better than xchat
[04:26] <jtmoney_> still favor gaim, however
[04:27] <bilford> I like Konversation.  I never tried it until yesterday
[04:27] <bilford> I only used Windows until last week
[04:27] <wasp_ems> this is the page where it explains how to install a bootsplash screen..https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto can anyone help me with it?
[04:27] <bilford> you can run Mirc in Wine
[04:27] <bilford> but I like Konversation
[04:29] <wasp_ems> anyone?
[04:29] <jtmoney_> wow, krdc is nice too
[04:29] <bilford> I dont know how
[04:29] <jtmoney_> wasp_ems: i was looking at that earlier today
[04:30] <jtmoney_> are you trying to add the package? it doesn't exist from what i can tell
[04:32] <wasp_ems> jtmoney_: no not the package..i have the picture..just what exactly should i write in grub etc
[04:32] <bilford> how to I access Windows computers on my network
[04:33] <jtmoney_> bilford: smb://computername
[04:33] <jtmoney_> in konqueror
[04:33] <jtmoney_> smb://host/c$ works for me
[04:34] <bilford> hm
[04:34] <jtmoney_> ubuntuguide.org/com (forget) has something on it too
[04:34] <jtmoney_> wasp_ems: one sec
[04:34] <wasp_ems> jtmoney_: np
[04:35] <jtmoney_> splashimage=(hd0,4)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
[04:36] <jtmoney_> change 4 to whatever partition /boot is in
[04:36] <wasp_ems> i dont get that
[04:36] <jtmoney_> yeah, it implies /boot
[04:36] <wasp_ems> i do not know in what partition it is in
[04:36] <jtmoney_> (from what i've read)
[04:36] <jtmoney_> type df
[04:36] <jtmoney_> from konsole
[04:37] <wasp_ems> ok
[04:37] <jtmoney_> should say something like /dev/hda1 ... /
[04:37] <wasp_ems> yes
[04:37] <jtmoney_> 1 is the partition that kubuntu is on
[04:37] <jtmoney_> so change it to (hd0,1)
[04:37] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> then you probably don' have one, so it wouls be (hd0,1)/boot/brub/...
[04:37] <HymnToLife> grub*
[04:37] <wasp_ems> :S
[04:37] <wasp_ems> it says /dev/hda2
[04:37] <jtmoney_> ahh, dual booting?
[04:38] <wasp_ems> yes
[04:38] <jtmoney_> k, then 2 is your magic number
[04:38] <jtmoney_> i'm gonna try it myself in a minute here
[04:38] <HymnToLife> splashimage=(hd0,2)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz <= then it should be like this
[04:39] <wasp_ems> ok so i add that somewhere in the file and then run the cd command?
[04:39] <jtmoney_> HymnToLife: i think you leave the /boot out of it for some strange reason
[04:39] <jtmoney_> yeah, so sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:39] <jtmoney_> make the change
[04:39] <jtmoney_> then sudo update-grub
[04:39] <wasp_ems> oh this is to complicated
[04:40] <wasp_ems> in which place do i put my pictures name..and where..dont i have to ie put it in the grub folder/
[04:40] <bilford> maybe I need smb4k
[04:40] <jtmoney_> wasp_ems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto?highlight=%28grub%29
[04:41] <jtmoney_> that might help you
[04:41] <wasp_ems> ok i will check it..thanx
[04:41] <jtmoney_> i like that flight 7 fixed the issue with my sound card automagically too heh
[04:41] <ubuntu> tes
[04:46] <lwizardl> if i have a rootfs file (complete linux install as an image how would i mount it so i coulld pull the files from it?
[04:47] <jtmoney_> lwizardl: system settings, disk & filesystems
[04:51] <jKl> any one can help me? my kubuntu won't read the hard drive device. what should I do? I'm a beginner in linux world :)
[04:52] <lwizardl> jtmoney, can you explain more? i'm using ubuntu 5.10 with kde added
[04:53] <lwizardl> this was what i tried "sudo mount -t reiserfs /home/user/Desktop/Wiz/Console_Stuff/xbox_webserver_hdd_backup/E/rootfs /home/user/Desktop/xb-ws -o loop"
[04:56] <joel> hey, room.
[04:56] <jtmoney_> yeah, click the k and then system settings
[04:56] <jtmoney_> it's somewhat easier doing it that way
[04:57] <joel> literally just installed Kubuntu dapper flight 7 from live cd.
[04:57] <lwizardl> i don't have something called system settings
[04:57] <joel> running adept right now.
[04:57] <lwizardl> i have a system tab but not a setting inside
[04:58] <joel> the only thing I did not select to update was the linux kernel.  this is because when I previously upgraded my system through apt-get, I lost my wireless access.
[04:58] <joel> anybody have any ideas how I can "save" that setting?
[04:59] <jtmoney_> lwizardl: sorry, are you running 5.10?
[05:00] <jtmoney_> joel: linux-686?
[05:00] <joel> 386.
[05:00] <jtmoney_> the system is a 386?
[05:00] <joel> though I have a 64-bit processor.
[05:01] <joel> I previously went from kernel 19 to 22 via apt-get.
[05:02] <lwizardl> jtmoney, yes
[05:02] <joel> Flight 7 (downloaded yesterday) comes with 21, so 22 is available via adapt.  Before upgrading, I want to make sure I can keep my wireless connection.  Dig?
[05:09] <joel> linux-imafe-2.6.15-22-386
[05:10] <joel> image, i mean.
[05:17] <poimen> how can I clean that without having to erase the entire folder I want to keep the latest packages???
[05:26] <lwizardl> this was what i tried "sudo mount -t reiserfs /home/user/Desktop/Wiz/Console_Stuff/xbox_webserver_hdd_backup/E/rootfs /home/user/Desktop/xb-ws -o loop"
[05:26] <ahmeni> poimen: clean what?
[05:27] <lwizardl> anyone know what i need to do to be able to mount that file as a folder so i can backup my files from it
[05:27] <joel> uh...
[05:28] <poimen> ahmeni I am using dapper and I have been updating from rc1 every week or so I have about 1gb in my /var/cache/apt/packages
[05:28] <poimen> how can I clean that without having to erase the entire folder I want to keep the latest packages???
[05:29] <poimen> apt-get clean will erase them all
[05:30] <joel> sudo cp?
[05:30] <poimen> hum?
[05:30] <joel> sudo cp.
[05:31] <joel> do cp --help
[05:31] <Snake__> poimen: what exactly do you want to do??
[05:31] <Snake__> poimen: the older packages are erased as the new ones come in
[05:31] <Snake__> iirc
[05:31] <joel> try using a back-up program like Keep.
[05:31] <joel> maybe.
[05:32] <Snake__> Hmm I may have been wrong..
[05:32] <poimen> Snake : that is not like that at lest in my machine I have all the old packages
[05:32] <Snake__> poimen: your correct, i apologize
[05:32] <poimen> ;)
[05:32] <Snake__> poimen: why not just rid them all?
[05:32] <poimen> coz I have a slow connection here
[05:33] <poimen> and when I have to re install I want to download the lest packages posible
[05:33] <poimen> :)
[05:33] <Snake__> All I can think is cp them to another folder (the ones you want)
[05:33] <poimen> also sometimes I install kubuntu on friends pcs
[05:33] <poimen> and and I dont want to download all things again :(
[05:33] <joel> I know exactly what you mean.
[05:33] <poimen> well looks like that I will have to do
[05:33] <poimen> :(
[05:34] <joel> that brings up an even better idea.  --slipstreaming.
[05:34] <Snake__> Yea thats about all you can do, or just remove them 1 by 1
[05:34] <joel> what if you could package the updates onto an install or live CD, instead of just onto a system?
[05:34] <poimen> but I was thinking that I can erase them all and download the new packages ass soon dapper get stable
[05:34] <Snake__> poimen: sudo rm oldversion0.1.deb oldversion0.2.deb etc
[05:34] <Snake__> then you can choose what to remove and what to keep
[05:35] <poimen> true
[05:35] <poimen> nah I think I will erase all the C**p because I forgot I was using unstable and that most of the packges are going to be updates in the final install cd
[05:35] <Snake__> joel: once the OS is released, the repos dont change.
[05:36] <EvilIdler> The simple solution is to use ls to list sorted by date, filter out anything older than a specific date and pipe to rm -f
[05:36] <poimen> wow
[05:36] <EvilIdler> cp, awk manpages :)
[05:37] <EvilIdler> Might actually get away with just cp. It has a lot of options.
[05:37] <poimen> that was good thinking :D
[05:37] <EvilIdler> I get intravenous /bin/sh :P
[05:37] <joel> well... yeah.
[05:37] <poimen> Evilidler I will do that that is easy
[05:37] <Snake__> joel: so slipstreaming is generally worthless. Also you IF you built your own packages (say for... lyriclib1.4.deb and amarok1.4beta.deb) then just burn the debs along with the disk. Once your system is running "sudo dpkg -i all.deb your.deb debs.deb get.deb listed.deb here.deb" bam, instant upgrade.
[05:37] <ahmeni> there's a better way to do it with find
[05:37] <EvilIdler> Yeah, find is a good idea
[05:38] <EvilIdler> If you have a LOT of files, xargs might be needed, too, but find alone could do it
[05:38] <poimen> 1gb or old crap
[05:38] <poimen> of*
[05:38] <joel> I know nothing of this "find" you speak of.
[05:38] <joel> Snake, what kind of phone.
[05:38] <EvilIdler> There's always more than one way to do it on the command line ;)
[05:39] <Snake__> joel: Audiovox Snapper (with virgiin mobile)
[05:39] <joel> cdma.
[05:39] <Snake__> cdma?
[05:39] <joel> Virgin is cdma network.
[05:39] <Snake__> mmm okiedokie! :P
[05:39] <joel> you don't use a sim card, right?
[05:39] <Snake__> No
[05:39] <joel> there you go.
[05:40] <Snake__> Yea I dont know anything about cells or their network, I just use the phones and call.
[05:40] <poimen> be back laters
[05:40] <poimen> thankx
[05:40] <joel> GSM uses sim cards.  my phome just broke today.  Since I had a backup phone, I just switched my sim card.
[05:41] <joel> no need to call my carrier.  no upgrade issues.  nothing.
[05:41] <ahmeni> argh! he leaves just as i figure it out
[05:41] <ahmeni> find -mtime +<number of days> | xargs rm
[05:41] <erov> anyone use amaroK in here? (ive already asked the amaroK channel they are sleeping)
[05:41] <EvilIdler> ahmeni: Almost the same I came up with :)
[05:41] <ahmeni> and doesn't work as expected
[05:42] <ahmeni> as the packages are dated from their serverside modification times, not when they're downloaded :\
[05:42] <EvilIdler> ahmeni: I'd use -daytime to count from now, and -ctime for last modified (and a negative number)
[05:43] <EvilIdler> Play around with it, and you could end up with a script worthy of bundling in a distro ;)
[05:43] <ahmeni> yeah, ctime might work better
[05:43] <ahmeni> I wrote one a long time ago when I used Gentoo to clean up old /usr/portage/distfiles
[05:44] <EvilIdler> ahmeni: One thing that affects whether atime, ctime or mtime is used is the filesystem. Not all actually support each as a separate entity
[05:44] <ahmeni> yeah, i mount my reiserfs with noatime
[05:44] <EvilIdler> I usually choose door #3: I have 3Mbit download and a uni close by :)
[06:16] <frank_> can anyone who has the flash plugin working in konqueror check if they can make google videos play? I get only sound from them
[06:17] <conte> Can anyone help me with wireless card woes? I have a pci card, the driver is set up, it says it works out-of-the-box on the wiki but for some reason I can't get an IP address (dhcp)
[06:17] <conte> frank_: sorry,  don't have flash plugin here at work :{
[06:17] <frank_> conte: ok, no problem
[06:24] <_conte> whoops I disconnected by accident, did anyone say anything about the wireless issue im having?
[06:24] <bilford> no
[06:36] <bilford> how does anyone make money in the Linux community
[06:36] <bilford> if you design software, it's all free
[06:44] <bimberi> bilford: by selling services based around the software - eg. support, customisation
[07:15] <Phoenix92x> hi, could anyone help me get WPA working on my kubuntu dell D610 latitude notebook? I already have wireless working I just dont see wpa support anywhere
[07:17] <yuriy> how do i get aptitude to ignore a broken package
[07:21] <EvilIdler> Thunderbird is suddenly broken for me - segfaulting somewhere in the script that actually starts it
[07:23] <ngh55> hi my kubuntu fellows =)
[07:23] <ngh55> again me with some problems of course hehe
[07:24] <ngh55> when i download something wit apt-ge -d , where the file gest downloaded? I cant seem to find it
[07:25] <ngh55> anyone plese?
[07:25] <ngh55> please
[07:25] <NoUse> ngh55 it gets install automatically, what do you need the file for?
[07:27] <NoUse> ngh55 either way, it goes to /var/cache/apt/archive
[07:27] <ngh55> well, mainly because im moving home and will not have internet cnnection there
[07:27] <ngh55> thnx
[07:28] <ngh55> omg, every single app I have downloaded si there, cool
[07:28] <ngh55> thnx a lot
[07:29] <NoUse> ngh55 np
[07:31] <ngh55> ok, in the future, if I want to install something from cache, it will do it automatically? with all dependencies?
[07:32] <ngh55> not cache, I meant supposing I burn all those files to cd
[07:32] <NoUse> ngh55 if you burn them to CD, copy them to /var/cache/apt/archive
[07:33] <ngh55> I c, then apt-get will look for them there first I assume
[07:33] <NoUse> ngh55 yes
[07:33] <ngh55> great, thnx
[07:35] <ngh55> NoUse: what apps you recomend? like kde improvements for example
[07:40] <ngh55> nevermind, thnx again
[07:49] <jtmoney> hey guys, how do i list multiple WAPs under /etc/network/interfaces so i can take my laptop on campus and have it automatically connect?
[08:11] <_sane> got a prob and need some help if any ones got a min?
[08:13] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[08:13] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[08:15] <_sane> just install firefox 1.5.0.3 from bin and it needed libstdc++ installed to run, after installing libstdc++ no gnome based apps will work they crash out
[08:16] <_sane> tryed removing libstdc++ but no luck
[08:16] <Hobbsee> ick.  breezy or dapper?
[08:17] <_sane> sorry to say I don't know
[08:17] <_sane> its off the 5.10 cd that they send out when you reqest them
[08:19] <_sane> just looked its dapper
[08:22] <KDEfanboy> how do you login to fireflier?
[08:22] <graft> hi - anyone here use kttsd?
[08:23] <KDEfanboy> graft: yea with festival
[08:25] <graft> KDEfanboy: ah cool... um
[08:26] <graft> i have this weird problem where it says there's no kcontrol module for it
[08:26] <graft> and i dunno what to do about it
[08:26] <graft> it makes it impossible to configure
[08:26] <graft> i built it from source and still no luck
[08:28] <KDEfanboy> hmm i've never had that problem
[08:28] <graft> you're on breezy, i take it?
[08:29] <KDEfanboy> no dapper
[08:30] <graft> hrm. and you installed out of the repos?
[08:30] <graft> this is bizarre...
[08:30] <graft> maybe i just need to restart KDE? that doesn't make sense..
[08:47] <bilford> test
[08:48] <n3storm> hi
[09:21] <unix_infidel> does kubuntu ship with dmix set?
[09:22] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[09:39] <lwizardl> i'm trying to mount a fat32 usb drive in kubuntu 5.10 can someone help me
[10:05] <raf> hello all
[10:06] <raf> I need to connect to a VPN but I don't   know what client is the best
[10:07] <raf> I did try kvpnc, but it has several options that I can't configure
[10:07] <raf> I mean, I have just the IP of the VPN server, my username and my password, nothing more
[10:10] <macd> raf: Id say you need a bit more information, before you can find a client that suits your needs
[10:15] <raf> macd: more information about what? about my VPN?
[10:15] <macd> yes,
[10:15] <raf> I configured my VPN at  work, now I need to access it in my home,
[10:16] <raf> I mean, I could have all the information I need, what info I need?
[10:16] <macd> then youll need to find a client that supports you VPNs protocol and authentication schema
[10:16] <raf> my VPN it's a PPTP with 128 bits
[10:17] <raf> do you know a client that fits my needs?
[10:17] <raf> Kvpnc doesn't work for me, I don't know what
[10:18] <macd> http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/
[10:18] <macd> I think that would work fine, there is some debian specifi documentation as well, you could also check and see if that is in the repositories.
[10:19] <macd> http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml
[10:20] <raf> macd: ooook :D I'm going to try that
[10:20] <raf> macd: thanks
[10:20] <macd> np
[10:27] <texjoachim> hi!
[10:28] <texjoachim> can anyone here help me with a printing problem?
[10:43] <zigy> hi
[10:44] <zigy> i have no sound in kde
[10:45] <zigy> strange, i never had this problem before
[10:45] <hastesaver> !sound <-- tried it?
[10:45] <ubotu> hastesaver: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:45] <hastesaver> !sound
[10:45] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:45] <Hobbsee> zigy: is everything unmuted in alsamixer?  and dapper, breezy?
[10:46] <zigy> Hobbsee, i have two sound cards, how can i switch alsa to use second one?
[10:47] <zigy> it's dapper
[10:47] <Hobbsee> oh...a complicated sound problem...crimsun to the rescue, wherever he is...
[10:47] <zigy> :/
[10:48] <Hobbsee> (anything beyond "unmute all the different bits" usually qualifies as complicated :P )
[10:49] <hastesaver> zigy, try #ubuntu+1 (both appropriate because it's Dapper, and because crimsun is there :)
[10:56] <MrFaber> hi all
[10:58] <MrFaber> Does anyone useing kontact here?
[10:58] <apokryphos> yes
[10:58] <MrFaber> apokryphos: Dapper?
[10:58] <apokryphos> sure
[10:58] <MrFaber> apokryphos: Are you able to import messages?
[10:59] <apokryphos> I haven't tried, I've been using Kontact for ages
[10:59] <MrFaber> apokryphos: I have thunderbird installed but the import messages button is greyed out
[10:59] <MrFaber> and without import no kontact
[10:59] <MrFaber> maybe it is greyed out because thunderbird ist called mozilla-thunderbird in ubuntu
[10:59] <apokryphos> try ask in #kde
[11:00] <MrFaber> ok
[11:29] <Kream> hi, I'm using breezy and am trying to get one of my users to be able to sudo despite the fact that I have put them in visudo
[11:29] <flai> does anybody knows if theres any bug installing flashplugin-nonfree behind a proxy???????
[11:30] <Kream> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/lFXDdu96.html
[11:30] <flai> i've already turned wgetrc proxy option on but it seems not to work anyway
[11:30] <Kream> can someone tell me what I should do ?
[11:33] <Kream> cp_lab@salamat:~$ sudo -l
[11:33] <Kream> User cp_lab may run the following commands on this host:
[11:33] <Kream>     (All) ALL
[11:33] <Kream> BUGGER
[11:34] <Kream> it's case sensitive
[11:34] <Kream> ah well
[11:34] <Kream> live and learn
[11:46] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:52] <Xemanth^^^> i wonder what causes this: in under heavy cpu usage like kernel compiling mouse starts to jump... im using acer 5024wlmi with breezy, mouse is MX518
[11:52] <Xemanth^^^> kde 3.5.2
[11:56] <Xemanth^^^> any ideas
[11:56] <Xemanth^^^> ?
[11:57] <visik7> acer
[11:57] <visik7> ...
[11:59] <Xemanth^^^> :D
[11:59] <Xemanth^^^> brb i'll try compiling latest kernel ->
[12:38] <kakalto> is it possible to get japanese input in irssi?
[12:43] <johannes__> hi
[12:43] <johannes__> i am looking for a mobile that works out of the box with kontact
[12:43] <johannes__> synchronization
[12:43] <johannes__> dont care if older or newer
[12:44] <apokryphos> johannes__: #kontact
[12:45] <johannes__> apokryphos thx i didnt know there is a channel
[12:50] <johannes__> whats your best karamba application?
[12:50] <johannes__> whats worth trying out?
[12:51] <klerfayt> where is root terminal in kubuntu?
[12:53] <klerfayt> is it like ksedu konsole ?
[12:53] <kakalto> they hide it, aye.
[12:53] <kakalto> you mean kdesu konsole?
[12:53] <kakalto> that would work.
[12:53] <klerfayt> well I need root terminal to type in echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[12:54] <kakalto> ah, that trick :)
[12:54] <h3sp4wn> press session new root shell
[12:54] <slow-motion> bye
[12:54] <klerfayt> thanks it worked
[12:56] <psyke83> hi, when I run opengl apps there's terrible vsync problems. If I use "vblank_mode=3 app" then it works perfectly, however, I can't get it to work using driconf or /etc/environment, I always have to set the variable each time I run an app. What could be the problem? I'm using the i810 driver and Xorg 7.0
[01:00] <joel> hello, room.
[01:00] <joel> I'm back.
[01:01] <joel> anybody home?
[01:09] <joel> echo!!!
[01:09] <nolte> si
[01:09] <joel>                                                                echo...
[01:11] <joel> question.  I'm running adept right now.  kubuntu-desktop is listed as ready to be removed.  However, it also reads "It is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system packages are not desired."   Why don't I believe it?
[01:13] <Chryseus> kubuntu-desktop is just metapackage to install kde nicely.. you can safely remove it
[01:14] <joel> HA!!! I'm still scared.
[01:16] <kakalto> metapackage just depends on all the other stuff, but if you remove it, it actually does nothing, does it?
[01:17] <kakalto> *doesn't it
[01:18] <Chryseus> it just install many other packages
[01:18] <kakalto> in other words, yeah
[01:19] <Chryseus> joel: if you get long list of K starting packages.. then start to worry.. otherwise just uninstall it :P
[01:21] <joel> okay...
[01:33] <psyke83> hi, can someone tell me: if you put a variable in /etc/environment, shouldn't it take effect in your session? Let's say I set LIBGL_DEBUG="verbose", and when I log in and run glxgears, I see no debug output, but "LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxgears" does - what's wrong?
[01:41] <Xemanth^> ati is trying to piss my eye
[01:41] <Xemanth^> http://pastebin.com/722182
[01:41] <Xemanth^> but jumpy mouse problem is fixed now =)
[01:51] <evert_> hello all
[01:51] <evert_> how can i take a screenshot in kubuntu (in windows it was printscreen... )
[01:54] <apokryphos> evert_: alt+f2 -> ksnapshot
[01:59] <_rince_> g-day :)
[02:00] <Hobbsee> gday _rince_
[02:16] <nagyv> Is here someone who could help me to set up apache2 for developmnet? I would like to constraint in to localhost, and add virtualhosts to is. I already changed the ports.conf to Listen localhost:80. I this enough for the first?
[02:17] <nagyv> fot the virtualhost: I added one under sites-availabe and symliked it to sites-enabled. I also added the name to my hosts file, but I can not see it.
[02:18] <nagyv> it works. I forget to reload the config files! Stupid one!
[02:20] <evert_> I get an error with KaudioCreator , that he didn't found the mp3 codecs .. but i'm able to play mp3's
[02:20] <evert_> does somebody know the package i'm missing ?
[02:20] <cfraz89> maybe lame
[02:22] <evert_> i missed lame , i'm installing it :) thx for the hint
[02:27] <cfraz89> np
[02:31] <evert_> How can i delete music from my mp3 player , he says i don't have permission ...
[02:36] <Hobbsee> !restricted
[02:36] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:39] <omega> Hi.
[02:40] <evert_> huh ?
[02:40] <evert_> why show the restricted list ? :s
[02:45] <Hobbsee> sorry, i was just lookign for that..
[02:45] <omega> My display settings panel in KDE is broken and I don' t know how to fix it. It used to look like this; http://tinyurl.com/eta5c but now it looks like this;  http://tinyurl.com/zovp4
[02:46] <omega> All I think I did was install the nvidia graphics driver.
[02:52] <Xemanth^> does ati have issues with 2.6.16 kernels ? has somebody else noticed ?
[02:58] <Xemanth^> with issue i mean, ati propryshitsu driver doesn't compile fglrx :|
[03:51] <JavaGeek> hello
[03:53] <HymnToLife> !tell JavaGeek about hello
[03:57] <frood_wrk> I'm having trouble with Nvidia drivers on X. I downloaded and compiled the new drivers, Got X to run. I'm using it right now. The problem is that when I reboot the Nvidia Kernel drivers revert back to a previous version and X won't run. How can I make the drivers take so I don't have to recompile them every time I want to run X?
[03:58] <JavaGeek> does someone know if Flight8 will include Sun's java packages, just as ubuntu does?
[03:58] <mth`MAW> hi there
[04:09] <frood_wrk> Does anyone know where automatix installs firefox to? My firefox shortcut no longer works
[04:19] <mth`MAW> frood_wrk: what happens typing fireofx in konsole?
[04:19] <tailor> my firefox is in /opt/firefox
[04:20] <arnau> hello. I have a problem with text files with non-ASCII characters. I have kubuntu dapper. I have a file called kk with the word "Topologa". If I do cat kk, I have Topolog. Somebody knows what happen?
[04:21] <arnau> If I make "file kk", I have "kk: ISO-8859 text".
[04:21] <frood_wrk> mth`MAW: Command not found.
[04:22] <_frank> somebody knows automatiKs ???
[04:22] <arnau> The "correct" text files are "UTF-8 Unicode text". So my question is: how can I transform a ISO-8859 file into a UTF-8 Unicode text file?
[04:22] <mth`MAW> frood_wrk: that sucks
[04:23] <mth`MAW> Then I do not have any idea, WHAT automatix did!
[04:23] <Hobbsee> !automatix
[04:23] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[04:23] <mth`MAW> Take look on the automatix project page!
[04:23] <frood_wrk> mth`MAW: It installed it to my home directory.
[04:24] <mth`MAW> okay... is there a dir called mozilla or something?
[04:24] <frood_wrk> And it messed up my Nvidia driver settings. Every time I reboot I have to recompile them to get X to run.
[04:24] <mth`MAW> ...
[04:24] <_frank> I have a prablem with automatiKs. I select what I want, but he dont start to install ??????
[04:24] <mth`MAW> wtf is going there?
[04:24] <frood_wrk> There is a directory called  firefox in my home directory that has 1.5.03 in it.
[04:24] <mth`MAW> there is the binary
[04:25] <mth`MAW> inside
[04:25] <mth`MAW> (hopefully)
[04:25] <tailor> @_frank: leave the window which asks to click onto the close button open - just click once
[04:26] <tailor> while using automatiks I closed the window each time at the beginning and also wondered why it wouldn't start...
[04:26] <frood_wrk> Well, there is a binary file in it.
[04:26] <frood_wrk> I have to run firefox by clicking on the firefox.sh script though.
[04:26] <frood_wrk> clicking the binary doesn't do much.
[04:26] <_frank> Can you speak german ?
[04:26] <tailor> yep
[04:27] <_frank> sags auf deutsch
[04:28] <tailor> da war so ein fenster kurz bevor der eigentlich installieren wollte, das wollte von mir, dass ich auf das X oben rechts klicke... das fenster ist davon nicht zu gegangen, hat aber anscheinend eine nachricht an das hauptfenster gesendet. ich habe immer nachdem ich einmal draufgeklickt habe, nochmal draufgeklickt, um das fenster zu schlieen
[04:29] <mth`MAW> frood_wrk: So it works... somehow?!
[04:29] <tailor> hab dann mal das fenster offen gelassen, dann hats geklappt, der braucht nur ein paar sekunden, bis er anfngt, in denen man das fenster nicht schlieen sollte
[04:29] <mth`MAW> And what do we learn frood_wrk?
[04:29] <mth`MAW> [2006-05-17 16:23:37]  <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[04:29] <mth`MAW> ;)
[04:30] <raerklegler> Does anyone know why the 2.16.15-21-386 kernel headers are missing in the repos?
[04:30] <_frank> aber ich lass das fenster ja offen und es funzt trotzdem nich
[04:30] <frood_wrk> mth`MAW:  Not to run Automatix because it sucks?
[04:30] <tailor> bei mir hat ers gemacht, k.A.
[04:30] <_frank> der statusbalken rhrt sich nicht
[04:32] <tailor> sometimes automatiKs seems really a bit 'ungood'...
[04:33] <tailor> i've let automatiks install my firefox but afterwards i did it on my own
[04:33] <EvilIdler> I wouldn't use anything that overwrites the areas where the regular package management puts its files.
[04:33] <tailor> and after installing the win32-codecs i got totem on my computer... right with half of the rest of gnome :-))
[04:34] <EvilIdler> Automatix would have to use /usr/local/ to be safe
[04:34] <_frank> Is easyubuntu better than automatiKs ?
[04:34] <tailor> what are you planning to install?
[04:34] <raerklegler> Does anyone know why the 2.16.15-21-386 kernel headers are missing in the repos?
[04:35] <_frank> codecs usw
[04:35] <tailor> for multimedia purposes mplayer is a really goood program which afaik is not supported by automatiks
[04:36] <noteventime> !xg
[04:36] <ubotu> noteventime: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:36] <EvilIdler> Xine works perfectly well for me.
[04:36] <noteventime> !xgl
[04:36] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:36] <mth`MAW> frood_wrk: Personally I DO NOT HAVE ANY expirience with automatix.
[04:36] <mth`MAW> So I prefer to edit my sources.lst by hand ;)
[04:38] <DeadS0ul1`> I have ice cream!
[04:40] <mth`MAW> Anybody knows something about making nsv-stream from my webcam with ubuntu?
[04:45] <xwolf-> where can i find KDE themes?
[04:45] <[WoS] Pnut> www.kde-look.org
[04:45] <[WoS] Pnut> lots of them there
[04:46] <xwolf-> thanks
[04:46] <[WoS] Pnut> np ^^
[04:46] <mth`MAW> Ah I see... that is the level of this chat ;)
[04:46] <[WoS] Pnut> anyone running dapper?
[04:46] <mth`MAW> a personified "google" ;)
[04:47] <Hobbsee> [WoS] Pnut: yes
[04:47] <[WoS] Pnut> lol
[04:47] <mth`MAW> I do at work
[04:47] <mth`MAW> not at home...
[04:47] <[WoS] Pnut> me too at work...and at home...
[04:47] <Hobbsee> mth`MAW: not really - just there arent a lot of people around here...
[04:47] <Hobbsee> sometime's its very busy, sometimes it's quiet
[04:47] <[WoS] Pnut> but i have probs with ndiswrapper and a linksys broadcom based wireless pcmcia card
[04:48] <Hobbsee> [WoS] Pnut: what's the ndiswrapper problem?
[04:48] <Hobbsee> ndiswrapper.ko not found?
[04:48] <[WoS] Pnut> anyone got any info on how to make the wpc54g work
[04:48] <mth`MAW> Writing my exame on my computer ... I just do not want to risk the posibility, that something want work after updating ;)
[04:48] <Hobbsee> or no module ndiswrapper?
[04:48] <[WoS] Pnut> i installed the module
[04:48] <Hobbsee> !wireless
[04:48] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[04:48] <[WoS] Pnut> and -m'd it
[04:48] <[WoS] Pnut> then modprobed it
[04:48] <Hobbsee> see if there's anything on there ^ about your specic card
[04:48] <Hobbsee> yep, and?
[04:48] <simp> hello, question, is there anything like ctrl+alt+del ? i remmember it was something from console/terminal/(ctrl+alt+F1/2/3...)
[04:48] <[WoS] Pnut> then lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[04:48] <[WoS] Pnut> and its found
[04:49] <[WoS] Pnut> so i then loaded the driver for my card.
[04:49] <Hobbsee> yep...and?
[04:49] <[WoS] Pnut> and the driver is found. present and hardware present
[04:49] <simp> but no network found?
[04:49] <[WoS] Pnut> but i cant make it connect to my damn wireless network
[04:49] <[WoS] Pnut> lol
[04:49] <simp> same here
[04:49] <theverant> what's your guys opinion on minimum hardware for kubuntu?
[04:50] <simp> in the install there was a way ;)
[04:50] <[WoS] Pnut> a way to make it work?
[04:50] <simp> you had a chance of pressinf keys... and one option was minimal hardware
[04:50] <Hobbsee> [WoS] Pnut: install knetworkmanager :P
[04:50] <simp> it doesn't work
[04:50] <simp> i have it
[04:50] <Hobbsee> theverant: er...what hardware are you talking about?
[04:50] <[WoS] Pnut> lol sure doesnt
[04:50] <simp> no help from it
[04:50] <[WoS] Pnut> nor wifi radar or anything else i triedc
[04:50] <simp> yeap...
[04:50] <Hobbsee> [WoS] Pnut: wlassistant?
[04:50] <theverant> Hobbsee - well, I have a job over the next two days refurbishing some donated systems for a non profit
[04:51] <[WoS] Pnut> nope
[04:51] <noteventime> simp, You need to delete the devices from /etc/network/interfaces
[04:51] <[WoS] Pnut> nothing sees my wifi signal
[04:51] <theverant> so I want to know if it will be worth while trying kubuntu on them
[04:51] <Hobbsee> [WoS] Pnut: does it show in iwlist wlan0 scan?
[04:51] <theverant> but I don't know what they are like yet
[04:51] <simp> ok noteventime
[04:51] <Hobbsee> theverant: it may well be - but you'd do better to try xubuntu on them...
[04:51] <[WoS] Pnut> i had the card in during the os install and its recognized and eth0 alias wlan0
[04:51] <Hobbsee> !xubuntu
[04:51] <ubotu> well, xubuntu is Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[04:52] <theverant> are there no posted minimum hardware specs for kubuntu?
[04:52] <Hobbsee> [WoS] Pnut: well, whichever interface it is :P
[04:52] <theverant> I can't seem to find any
[04:52] <Hobbsee> theverant: i'm pretty sure there are, like the gnome ones, on the wiki.
[04:52] <Hobbsee> somewhere.
[04:52] <Hobbsee> theverant: xfce's a lot faster than kde - so that may be a better bet...
[04:52] <theverant> hahaha... somewhere
[04:52] <bert> !mono
[04:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, mono is implementation of .NET framework on linux.  For details http://www.go-mono.com
[04:53] <theverant> nice answer :)
[04:53] <[WoS] Pnut> i have them alled installed..for some reason i prefer the kde more than the others
[04:53] <Hobbsee> theverant: i'm falling asleep a bit her,e and my brain's swimming from launchpad :P
[04:53] <Hobbsee> and bits of wiki
[04:54] <Hobbsee> and so i dont remember where everything is anymore
[04:54] <Hobbsee> and dpkg and various other building commands, etc
[04:55] <Hobbsee> SlimG: kill that away message, please.
[04:57] <SlimG> Hobbsee: Sorry :D
[04:58] <Hobbsee> SlimG: :)
[05:08] <smoosh> hi, there are a way for add a binary (or hexadecimal) char with bash, without using an hex editor?
[05:16] <jpetso> I'm searching for a way to get suspend work again with Dapper, because it worked in Breezy
[05:16] <davix> is there a way to capture a screen shot with video and not get a blue spot instead of the video?
[05:16] <jpetso> which command does KLaptop call on suspending?
[05:16] <davix> to capture the screen as it is
[05:16] <davix> just dump it into a file
[05:17] <kronoz> how do you bring up katapult? i can't remember
[05:17] <jpetso> davix: this is because your graphics card's acceleration is on. if you find a way to turn it off, you can record it
[05:17] <jpetso> davix: but I don't know how to do it
[05:18] <davix> i see
[05:18] <_rince_> smoosh: it has to be bash? otherwise i would suggest python
[05:18] <rahab> @kronoz: i had to start it just once nd it kept running. then press alt+space
[05:18] <kronoz> rahab, thanks
[05:18] <_rince_> smoosh: just start the python interpreter and it works as a calculator :)
[05:18] <kronoz> python rocks
[05:19] <jpetso> how can you call suspend/hibernate from the command line in Ubuntu?
[05:19] <rahab> @jpetso: check the scripts under /etc/acpi
[05:19] <jpetso> rahab: ok, thanks
[05:20] <_rince_> does anyone use kweather in dapper?
[05:20] <kronoz> it does work with alot of motherboards though
[05:20] <_rince_> nevermind dapper doesn't work in breezy neither
[05:20] <kronoz> *doesn't
[05:21] <jpetso> rahab: there aren't any scripts there, except events/sample.conf which is not what I'm looking for
[05:22] <rahab> jpetso: mhh ok now im stuck too :)
[05:22] <jpetso> rahab: no problem, thanks for trying
[05:22] <kronoz> someone in ubuntu once told me how, jpesto
[05:22] <rahab> jpetso: maybe i have these because of laptop-mode package
[05:22] <kronoz> i can't remember how/who though
[05:23] <jpetso> kronoz: :-D
[05:23] <kronoz> jpesto, hbreezy/dapper?
[05:23] <jpetso> kronoz: dapper
[05:24] <kronoz> ask in #ubuntu+1, someone there will know
[05:24] <jpetso> wait, I'll try out "echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep"
[05:24] <jpetso> not sure why sleep is there now, I remember it being gone
[05:26] <kronoz> is it possible to symlink across partitions?
[05:26] <EvilIdler> Yes
[05:26] <kronoz> eg, ln -sf ~/home/kronoz/foo ~/media/hda6/home/kronoz/bar ?
[05:27] <kronoz> becuase i've been trying to and i can't make it wokr
[05:27] <kronoz> is there a kde app that does symlinking?
[05:27] <EvilIdler> No problem doing it here
[05:28] <EvilIdler> Standing in my home directory, I did 'ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 gcc'
[05:28] <kronoz> and /usr is on a different partition?
[05:28] <EvilIdler> The root partition is an ext3 partition, and /home is JFS
[05:29] <EvilIdler> Yep, /usr is under /
[05:29] <kronoz> ok
[05:29] <kronoz> i will try that
[05:29] <kronoz> can it be done with directorys
[05:29] <EvilIdler> Sure
[05:30] <EvilIdler> Anything you like
[05:30] <kronoz> and does the directory have to exist or will ln create one?
[05:30] <EvilIdler> There's also another trick you can do to make 'soft backups' if the filesystem has support for it
[05:30] <EvilIdler> ln -s <dir that exists> <name of link to create>
[05:31] <EvilIdler> What packages do I need to install to compile themes and decorations for KDE?
[05:31] <_rince_> kronoz: directories are nothing more than special files
[05:32] <mhterres> hi
[05:32] <_rince_> since everything is a file, even your devices
[05:32] <EvilIdler> Very special indeed - files that you remove to wipe whole weeks of work :)
[05:33] <kronoz> rince, the great unix philiosiphy :), EvilIdler, that worked, i was putting the dirs the wrong why round before, thanks
[05:34] <EvilIdler> Yeah, getting the order right can be a problem
[05:34] <_rince_> kronoz: exactly :)
[05:35] <EvilIdler> But about that trick: There's something called the immutable flag.
[05:36] <EvilIdler> Make a link, set the original file immutable. Now if you edit the link, the link turns into a real file, while the original stays intact.
[05:36] <EvilIdler> Only works on ext2/ext3, as far as I've tested yet
[05:43] <kOpter> Yello :)
[05:43] <kOpter> I'm trying to find some manuals about katapult
[05:44] <kOpter> But the man page, the berlios project page and the kubuntu wiki are pretty useless
[05:47] <EvilIdler> Katapult is just a launcher dashboard, or something, isn't it?
[05:48] <theverant> when installing kubuntu, is it possible to software RAID just a portion of two HDDs, or do you have to use the whoel drive?
[05:49] <serkan_calis> hello people
[05:49] <kronoz> hello serkan_calis
[05:49] <serkan_calis> now i am trying to install amarok, and it wants me libmysqlclient15
[05:49] <kronoz> serkan, apt-get -f install
[05:50] <serkan_calis> but i ve learned that this package changed name to 15off
[05:50] <serkan_calis> oo
[05:50] <serkan_calis> ok lemme try
[05:50] <serkan_calis> sama problem kronoz
[05:51] <serkan_calis> same*
[05:51] <kOpter> Evilldler -> Yeah.. but under mac you just press control and it starts.. but here I have to click it to run it
[05:51] <kronoz> ok, sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[05:51] <serkan_calis> amarok: Depends: libmysqlclient15 (>= 5.0.15-1) but it is not installable
[05:51] <kOpter> Evilldler -> And I'v got no idea what it indexes
[05:51] <kronoz> !paste
[05:51] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[05:52] <serkan_calis> omg so much package is this the only way kronoz
[05:52] <kronoz> serkan, paste your sources.list
[05:52] <kronoz> serkan, apt-cache search libmysqlclient
[05:52] <EvilIdler> kOpter: The designers could use a UI designer on board, then ;)
[05:53] <serkan_calis> libmysqlclient15-dev - mysql database development files
[05:53] <serkan_calis> libmysqlclient15off - mysql database client library
[05:53] <serkan_calis> 
[05:53] <kronoz> serkan, apt-get install libmysqlclient15-dev libmysqlclient15off; maybe?
[05:53] <serkan_calis> i have 15off
[05:53] <kronoz> install the -dev one
[05:54] <serkan_calis> http://pastebin.com/722610 source list
[05:54] <serkan_calis> ok i am installing it
[05:55] <slow-motion> re
[05:56] <kronoz> cya later
[05:57] <danst>  hi, my konsole crashes when i shut down kde. not always but quite often, i am using an up to date system on my acer laptop. did so experience the same?
[05:57] <uwo> hi all. how do i find out which program is using (blocking) my sound system?
[05:58] <serkan_calis> ps aux could be
[05:59] <crimsun> uwo: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[06:00] <frood_wrk> I'm having some Nvidia driver problems. I've downloaded/compiled/installed the 1.0.8568 version of the driver but when I look at adept it wants to install the 1.0.7667 version of the nvidia-glx.
[06:00] <uwo> crimsun:thnx
[06:00] <frood_wrk> X won't load because the kernel module and the X driver version are incompatible.
[06:00] <frood_wrk> What to do?
[06:01] <frood_wrk> Should I remove the older version using adept?
[06:01] <uwo> how do i kill the process that is using it (realplay.)?
[06:01] <crimsun> frood_wrk: simply don't use nvidia-glx. If you installed 1.0-8568 yourself, it already has its own equivalent of nvidia-glx
[06:01] <serkan_calis> oh there is no libmysqlclient15 package and still amarok wants it
[06:01] <crimsun> uwo: pkill realplay
[06:01] <crimsun> serkan_calis: in Dapper that would libmysqlclient15off
[06:01] <serkan_calis> i have it crimsun
[06:02] <frood_wrk> crimsun:  So, I should uninstall it?
[06:02] <serkan_calis> and also 15off-dev package
[06:02] <crimsun> frood_wrk: yes, but then you'll need to reinstall 1.0-8568
[06:03] <frood_wrk> crimsun: That's fine. I've gotten pretty good at doing that.
[06:03] <serkan_calis> what do you think about that crimsun , is there any idea
[06:03] <crimsun> serkan_calis: on Dapper?
[06:03] <serkan_calis> yeah
[06:03] <frood_wrk> Should I also uninstall the nvidia-kernel-common 1.0.7667 package?
[06:03] <crimsun> fr
[06:03] <uwo> didn't help unfortunately, could it be because lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* gets me "WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev" ?
[06:04] <crimsun> frood_wrk: you may need to, but then you'll need to reinstall 1.0-8568
[06:04] <gaby> hy
[06:05] <frood_wrk> crimsun: no problem. I can do that.
[06:05] <crimsun> serkan_calis: apt-cache policy amarok
[06:06] <gaby> how are you frood ??? :)
[06:06] <serkan_calis> http://pastebin.com/722641 here crimsun
[06:07] <frood_wrk> Gaby : I'm fine. How are you?
[06:07] <frood_wrk> whois gaby
[06:07] <frood_wrk> hehe. Whoops
[06:07] <gaby> girls
[06:07] <gaby> :)
[06:07] <gaby> new
[06:07] <frood_wrk> I'm new too. Look, I'm still shiny
[06:07] <gaby> :)
[06:07] <crimsun> serkan_calis: sec, I'm at work
[06:08] <serkan_calis> ok
[06:08] <frood_wrk> time to recompile those drivers. Ta.
[06:08] <gaby> were you from frood?
[06:08] <gaby> england?
[06:08] <frood_wrk> Hardly.
[06:13] <crimsun> serkan_calis: your cache seems to be out of date, since beta 3 packages are available according to the topic
[06:13] <humbolt> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Generic-PCL_6_PCL_XL_Printer,pxlcolor] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[06:13] <humbolt> I cannot install printers in kde
[06:13] <humbolt> dapper
[06:13] <serkan_calis> so crimsun do i have to find a repo?
[06:14] <crimsun> serkan_calis: just update, then install amarok 1.4 beta 3
[06:14] <serkan_calis> i update it 2 hours ago
[06:15] <kOpter> Anyone know where I can find docs on Katapult?
[06:16] <crimsun> serkan_calis: you're not using it: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4beta3.php
[06:17] <crimsun> serkan_calis: note the actual repository url
[06:17] <crimsun> uri, rather
[06:17] <serkan_calis> ok crimsun i am trying it now
[06:20] <Taya> hi, anyone can help me with adding some default language in kde?
[06:20] <serkan_calis> ok crimsun it seems working, thanks alot
[06:20] <crimsun> serkan_calis: np
[06:20] <serkan_calis> this was hard and you solved it ,
[06:20] <serkan_calis> thanks again
[06:22] <Taya>  hi, anyone can help me with adding some default language in kde?
[06:25] <Reon> Anyone here use dapper ? I need /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 can someone please dcc me
[06:32] <crimsun> wow. amarok 1.4 beta 3 kicks arse
[06:32] <crimsun> (the last I used was 1.3.6 or thereabouts)
[06:32] <tristanmike> haha
[06:36] <iqon> how do i get my volume/mute buttons on my laptop to work?
[06:36] <dergringo> iqon: what laptop?
[06:36] <iqon> compaq presario x1000
[06:36] <iqon> they were working in gnome
[06:39] <Reon> Anyone here use dapper ? I need /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 can someone please dcc me
[06:40] <crimsun> just install libgcc1
[06:41] <crimsun> (it should already be installed)
[06:41] <crimsun> /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
[06:49] <santiago> hi there
[07:08] <rahab> hey everybody, what irc-client do you guys prefer? is kvirc still the thing?
[07:08] <axisme> i use konversation
[07:08] <axisme> xchat a close second
[07:08] <cyberboy> hello
[07:09] <cyberboy> somebody here with some knowledge about cpu overclocking on linux ?
[07:09] <rahab> im on konversation right now because it was already installed :)
[07:09] <axisme> i like it
[07:09] <sphere02> how do i configure cupsd.conf so an XP machine can print
[07:10] <cyberboy> somebody?
[07:10] <klerfayt> I like konversation cause it has OSD
[07:11] <cyberboy> some die hard tweakers around?
[07:15] <Dinofly> hello
[07:15] <Dinofly> does anyone know if the Apple "Mighty Mouse" works on kubuntu ?
[07:16] <xwolf-> is there a GUI rar (un)archiver?
[07:17] <Dinofly> xwolf: if you install unrar-nonfree ark can unrar files
[07:18] <Dinofly> but you can't create a rar archive
[07:18] <xwolf-> right
[07:19] <xwolf-> i installed unrar-free, Dinofly
[07:19] <xwolf-> can't ark see that one?
[07:21] <serkan_calis> is there any problem about last acpi packages
[07:22] <xwolf-> !rar
[07:22] <ubotu> it has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:23] <cbo> hello all. Does someone know if i can launch text mode install from the livecd? or do i have to download 'install cd' instead?
[07:23] <Dinofly> cbo: for dapper or breezy ?
[07:24] <cbo> dinofly: dapper
[07:25] <Dinofly> i think that the live cd is the only cd you need for dapper
[07:25] <cbo> i'm trying livecd install (graphical) on a P3 800, 160Mb + swap, but it's almost unusable
[07:25] <Dinofly> don't you have informations on how to launch text mode install at boot time ?
[07:26] <cbo> i don't remember having see that
[07:27] <Dinofly> i don't remember either, juste supposing ^^
[07:27] <cbo> do i have to specify what swap partition to use or is it detected and used automatically?
[07:27] <xwolf-> Dinofly i installed unrar-free then added a symlink from /usr/bin/unrar-free to /usr/bin/unrar... now Ark says there is an error when opening the package.
[07:28] <Dinofly> xwolf-: the free and non-free versions of unrar does not take the same command line arguments
[07:28] <Dinofly> it can't work like that
[07:28] <cbo> i am wondering how is that it runs so slow, more than an hour to show an unusable qtpared and the cd driver working continuously
[07:30] <Dinofly> cbo: i didn't use the last version of the cd so i can't help you
[07:30] <Dinofly> i did a server install + apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)
[07:30] <cbo> dinofly: thanks anyway
[07:35] <xwolf-> Dinofly the command-line 'unrar-free -x archive.rar' is failing either... any ideas?
[07:39] <Dinofly> hum i don't know... i use unrar-nonfree
[07:43] <cbo> can i tell the live cd to use an specific partition as swap?
[07:44] <uniq> xwolf-: i use p7zip to unzip rar files. 'apt-get install p7zip' (it's in the universe repository), then '7z x *.rar=
[07:44] <cbo> i don't see any boot option about this, i think it's interesting
[07:44] <humbolt> I cannot install any printer via kde kcontrol center!!!!
[07:44] <humbolt> what can I do?
[07:44] <uniq> err. make that '7z x *.rar'
[07:44] <humbolt> it keeps telling me
[07:44] <humbolt> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Generic-PCL_6_PCL_XL_Printer,pxlcolor] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[07:44] <humbolt> for any driver!
[07:45] <humbolt> even in system admin mode
[07:47] <xwolf-> ok uniq, thanks.
[07:47] <evert_> what's a good ssh server for ubuntu ? I need to set up a ssh connection to somebody others pc
[07:48] <Seantater> evert_: Install openssh-server
[07:48] <Seantater> evert_: It works perfect
[07:48] <Seantater> evert_: I use it all the time] 
[07:48] <uniq> humbolt: try 'sudo foomatic-cleanupdrivers'
[07:48] <evert_> how can you install it ?
[07:49] <evert_> *edit , how can you run it , it's already installed
[07:49] <Seantater> evert_: Use synaptic or adept
[07:49] <uniq> humbolt: that is executed in konsole, and then try again.
[07:49] <Seantater> evert_: it runs in the backgorund, you don;t see it
[07:50] <uniq> evert_: the server, or the client? - if you're making the connection to some other host, you want the client, which should be installed by default. 'ssh username@host.example.com'
[07:50] <evert_> I'm using putty as a client
[07:50] <evert_> so i'm searching a server
[07:51] <humbolt> uniq: great! now the damn thing crashes, when I try to install a printer!
[07:51] <humbolt> I had an endless number of lines like this one: stc_h.upp.xml has an empty command line, deleted!
[07:52] <humbolt> I guess it just deleted all the drivers
[07:53] <omega> Hello.
[07:53] <Reon> I can't write to a new partition ??? Any ideas ?
[07:53] <humbolt> uniq: any comment on this great success?
[07:53] <humbolt> uniq: how do I get my drivers back?
[07:54] <evert_> Wich ssh can i use pls ? I installend open-ssh server , but how can i start it ?
[07:54] <uniq> humbolt: one second.. finding a link with more information for you.
[07:54] <uniq> humbolt: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeprint/+bug/42965
[07:56] <mzelem> Does anyone know what packages have to be installed in order to have the perl CPAN module build perl modules?
[07:56] <humbolt> installing the following packages might have more chance of success: hp-ppd hpoj linuxprinting.org-ppds
[07:57] <_rince_> evert_: the server starts automatically after install
[07:57] <_rince_> evert_: otherwise us "/etc/init.d/sshd start"
[07:57] <evert_> command not found
[07:59] <_rince_> ah, it's /etc/init.d/ssh start
[08:00] <evert_> get this error :  * OpenBSD Secure Shell server not in use (/etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run)
[08:00] <_rince_> o_O
[08:00] <_rince_> worked out of the box here
[08:00] <_rince_> maybe try "dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server"
[08:01] <h3sp4wn> mzelem: It takes a bit of messing around to get working - Can you not just run cpan from sudo -i - It will go on about wanting to upgrade itself but it will work eventually
[08:02] <mzelem> well, the problem is that I don't know what compilers and libraries need to be installed for it to build other modules
[08:02] <evert_> when reconfiguring ssh server, i get the same error :s
[08:02] <_rince_> then i's not installed completely and won't work that way
[08:02] <evert_> it's installed with adept , both client and server of openssh
[08:02] <_rince_> and without error?
[08:03] <_rince_> stupid question, dpkg-reconfigre does nothing more than run postinstall
[08:03] <evert_> yes without any error
[08:04] <uniq> evert_: 'sudo mv /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run.BAK' maybe?
[08:04] <_rince_> strange, because then dpkg-reconfigue should work
[08:04] <uniq> evert_: and after that '/etc/init.d/ssh restart'
[08:06] <stevekl> That reminds me...do any of you happen to know how to change KDM's login screen style?
[08:06] <evert_> now it started without a problem , thx :)
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> mzelem: It builds what it needs itself (and puts the modules into /usr/local/share/perl) it shouldn't need anything for pure perl modules but any modules with parts written in another language will need compilers etc for that language
[08:07] <evert_> how can you connect to your own pc ? it's for testing it a bit before i use it for a remote pc
[08:08] <_rince_> use localhost
[08:38] <evert_> i'm getting errors with the ssh server
[08:38] <evert_> * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                                                                                                                          Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[08:38] <evert_> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[08:46] <haren> Captain_Redbeard aer du haer?
[08:47] <uniq> evert_: try: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow openssh-server'
[08:47] <evert_> it works fine now , but now i'm trying to connect to a friend's pc ... but if i connect (with puppy) i get a console window ... but it stays empty
[08:48] <evert_> even after 5 minutes there don't happens a thing
[08:52] <sonic> Anyone here ever had problems with repppppppppeating kkkkkkkkkkeys?
[08:53] <dergringo> ^^
[08:53] <sonic> repeating keys
[08:54] <sonic> I could be typing along and every so often my letters repeat (and it's nothing to do with the kepad getting jammed)
[08:55] <Dinofly> when the batteries of my cordless keyboard are low it happens to me too :)
[08:55] <sonic> :-) Along with this, other times the it misses keys altogether
[08:56] <sonic> So words will come out with letters missing :-(
[08:56] <sonic> It only started happening after switching to Kubuntu
[09:01] <joe__> hello all
[09:03] <iqon> has anyone successfully set up their volume up/down and mute keys in kde?
[09:04] <ubuntu> hello
[09:05] <ubuntu> i've got a little problem with kubuntu/drapper : i can't the mouse's cursor :x
[09:07] <GaiaX11> Which mouse is yours?
[09:07] <GaiaX11> ubuntu?
[09:07] <ubuntu> a standard ps2 mouse
[09:08] <GaiaX11> reboot your system in a safe mode
[09:08] <ubuntu> i can see the "waiting cursor" but not the "normal cursor"
[09:09] <GaiaX11> Then enter in the nonX environment
[09:09] <GaiaX11> sudo su
[09:09] <GaiaX11> #
[09:09] <marciofalvo> I just install debian3.1r2 and on start grub i have error 18, it is "Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS"
[09:09] <marciofalvo> What can i do?
[09:09] <GaiaX11> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:09] <ubuntu> GaiaX11: oki, i'll try that
[09:10] <ubuntu> but i think it's only a "kde style" problem
[09:10] <GaiaX11> And then try to set up your mouse
[09:10] <GaiaX11> ps2 etc...
[09:10] <GaiaX11> Then after that
[09:10] <GaiaX11> put:
[09:10] <GaiaX11> startx
[09:10] <ubuntu> i mean my mouse works but the " normal cursor" is invisible (i can see the "waiting cursor" when i launch an application)
[09:11] <GaiaX11> and then go to the Xmode
[09:11] <GaiaX11> And see what happens
[09:11] <GaiaX11> And also, have a look in the cable mouse
[09:12] <ubuntu> GaiaX11: hum... the mouse works, i just can't see the cursor
[09:12] <GaiaX11> And see if it is rightly fit
[09:13] <GaiaX11> Try to set up it again
[09:13] <GaiaX11> or take a borrowed PS/2 mouse put there and reboot the machine
[09:14] <GaiaX11> To see if it is a config problem
[09:14] <GaiaX11> or if it is the mouse itself which has a mechanical problem
[09:15] <ubuntu> GaiaX11: i repeat you that my mouse works, the problem come from kde cursor style
[09:15] <Dinofly> GaiaX11: i think it's only the icon of the cursor that's missing
[09:16] <marciofalvo> Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS.
[09:16] <Leonin> Are there anyway to make the taskbar applications "squares" transparent?
[09:16] <Leonin> They are greyish now. Wich doesnt look that good
[09:16] <Dinofly> Leonin: it is already possible
[09:17] <iqon> how do i get "input actions" (khotkeys) to work?
[09:17] <GaiaX11> So. That's my advice if it does not help I do not know what to say more :-(
[09:17] <Dinofly> in "appearance" select "for transparency"
[09:18] <Dinofly> (it might be a different word but i'm using a french version)
[09:18] <Leonin> Dino: Well yeah i know that but that only makes it "semi" transparent. The active applications still have a gray background.
[09:19] <Dinofly> Leonin: on my config i have it all transparent
[09:20] <Dinofly> you have to make your control panel transparent and your taskbar too
[09:21] <Leonin> ok. Well I thought i did that. Maybe I missed the taskbar.
[09:21] <Mars^> Hi all. I need some help. I need to connect to my server to run some kind of script for wiki. Kow can i connect to serv?
[09:21] <Mars^> from console
[09:22] <Leonin> Do i change that in the same place as control panel?
[09:22] <dergringo> Mars^: what kind of server? Do you mean ssh connection?
[09:22] <Dinofly> Leonin: in the "configure control panel" dialog box you have different sections on the left
[09:23] <Mars^> http server
[09:23] <Dinofly> Leonin: "appearance" => here you set your control panel transparent
[09:23] <dergringo> Mars^: I think you need an ssh connection to get a script running
[09:23] <Dinofly> Leonin: "taskbar" => here you make your taskbar transparent
[09:23] <dergringo> !ssh
[09:23] <ubotu> ssh is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[09:24] <Leonin> Dinofly: Yeah I know. But the odd thing is that I dont have that option. At least i dont see it.
[09:24] <Dinofly> in the "taskbar" section i have an "appearance" select box and i can select "for transparency" in it
[09:26] <Leonin> Really odd. All I can change is the panel background. Maybe its becuase I havent upgraded KDE yet.
[09:26] <Dinofly> the panel background is in another section of this dialog box
[09:26] <Dinofly> select the very last option on the left of the dialog box
[09:27] <Dinofly> it should be something like "taskbar", just below "appearance"
[09:29] <Leonin> Well in that can I only change the "behavior" of the taskbar.
[09:29] <Dinofly> Leonin: http://dinofly.planetemu.net/capture3.png
[09:29] <Leonin> I feel stupid and lost =P
[09:29] <edulix> hi !
[09:29] <ncos> .
[09:30] <edulix> I'm compiling kblogger but i'm stuck in the ./configure step
[09:30] <Leonin> Ok. Odd thing is that I dont all those options. =/
[09:30] <edulix> apparently I need to manually specify kde prefix for it
[09:30] <Dinofly> hum, are you using breezy or dapper ?
[09:30] <Leonin> breezy
[09:30] <edulix> dapper
[09:30] <Dinofly> i use dapper :)
[09:30] <edulix> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[09:31] <edulix> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[09:31] <Dinofly> sorry edulix i can't help
[09:31] <edulix> oks =)
[09:31] <Leonin> Ah. How stable is dapper?
[09:31] <DaSkreech> Adept needs a changelog viewer :-(
[09:32] <edulix> Leonin: it's quite good at stability in my experience
[09:32] <Dinofly> Leonin: dapper is rock solid on my laptop
[09:32] <Dinofly> more solid than my breezy experience
[09:33] <apol> edulix: install kde-devel
[09:33] <Leonin> ohh. Maybe I should try it tomorrow then. =)
[09:37] <drkat> Question: Trying to use Cisco 350 Wifi Card. Now install went fine, did network install over wireless no problem. When system boots KWifiManager shows it is 'connected' but no local ip available? anything to do with ipv6?
[09:38] <tof> hi, when I right clic on a ".zip" file in konq, I have an option "extract to". When it's a ".rar" file, I don't (instead I have 'add to archive..."). In the file association dialog, both are linked to Ark. How can I have the option to extract rar files without opening ark?
[09:38] <apol> drkat: KWifiManager stinks
[09:39] <apol> drkat: are you using dapper or breezy?
[09:39] <drkat> apol: Suggestions? I dont normally use KDE
[09:39] <drkat> whichever the latest image is
[09:39] <joscha_> NetworkManager
[09:39] <edulix> thanks apol I'll do that
[09:39] <joscha_> rocks ;)
[09:40] <apol> drkat: well, lastest stable image is breezy, lastest unstable image is dapper
[09:40] <apol> ...
[09:40] <drkat> breezy
[09:40] <drkat> sorry Im not on the pc right
[09:40] <drkat> now
[09:40] <edulix> 34 mb to download! bah, that's only 40 seconds lol
[09:41] <drkat> apol : Breezy
[09:43] <apol> drkat: you can try doing it by console
[09:43] <apol> drkat: I don't know if you have something like knetswitch there
[09:45] <drkat> apol: yeah I was thinking that... ifconfig shows an ipv6 address on the wireless adapter
[09:46] <drkat> but cant ping or resolve, and /etc/resolv.conf shows correct DNS servers
[09:46] <doctormo> hello all
[09:46] <doctormo> what is the script to enable gfx in xorg?
[09:47] <apol> drkat: ipv6's is always shown
[09:47] <apol> forget about it
[09:48] <apol> you probably need the ipv4 one
[09:49] <drkat> yeah I was thinkign that, thats why I asked orginally if there were any issues with wireless and ipv6
[09:50] <apol> drkat: do you have iwconfig, iwlist,... commands?
[09:50] <drkat> I may, I'll try them out, like I said im not at the pc, at work right now.
[09:51] <drkat> iwconfig i'll google that
[10:02] <mattl> lo.. if i run Thunderbird under KDE.. it should save my config in ~/.thunderbird/ right?
[10:04] <Mars^> Hi. How can i ssh to serv if i have: ip 83.149.73.33 port 59184 ?
[10:05] <ahmeni> Mars^: ssh -p port host
[10:06] <derekS> also -l for login
[10:07] <Mars^> thanks
[10:09] <SlimG> anyone know how to turn off global away in Konversation?
[10:10] <GeneralZod> SlimG:No idea, but try asking in #konversation :)
[10:15] <khaije1> i'm having trouble w/ X forwarding via ssh, i've pasted output here http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/723314  -- please help, im stumped
[10:16] <brandon_> does the transparency feature work? i'm changing the slider, but the windows aren't getting transparent
[10:16] <khaije1> SlimG: isn't it ctrl-alt-a ?
[10:17] <khaije1> brandon_:  what app are you talking about?
[10:17] <brandon_> i've tried it in konq and a couple of others
[10:18] <SlimG> khaije1: i've solved it by enetering identities, and unchecked "show away messages", but thanx anyway!
[10:23] <paulvolk> Hello
[10:24] <paulvolk> I have a dual boot system with windows and I was wondering if there is anyway I can go, from linux, and copy files from the windows side to the linux side?
[10:24] <rob> cdr
[10:24] <rob> mount the partition?
[10:24] <kOpter> Yello, does anyone know where I can find docs on Katapult?
[10:25] <rob> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katapult
[10:26] <paulvolk> it is just I would like to copy my graphic files from windows to linux
[10:26] <kOpter> I was looking more for docs like how can I assign it to a key, what does it index and why, etc...
[10:26] <rob> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/somefolder
[10:26] <apol> BTW, does anyone like Katapult?
[10:26] <kOpter> I like quicksilver..
[10:26] <kOpter> I hope I can tune Katapult the same way
[10:27] <apol> bof...
[10:27] <ahmeni> wow.. some script kiddes vandalized katapult's wiki :\
[10:27] <kOpter> http://www.thekatapult.org.uk/ gives me a "Server not found"
[10:27] <joscha_> katapult rocks
[10:28] <XVampireX> Yeah, pretty much
[10:29] <kOpter> Aha.. ALT-SPACE, CTRL^C Gives me the config panel..
[10:30] <kOpter> Now I just need a keyboard wich has a working alt
[10:30] <XVampireX> quicksilver?
[10:31] <munzir> goldenear: hi ;)
[10:31] <munzir> Hi, I need someone to help figuring out the reason why kde broke arabic as in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/11753, is it kde problem or kubuntu or what?
[10:32] <kOpter> http://www.thekatapult.org.uk/ : It was inspired by Quicksilver for Mac OS X.
[10:33] <XVampireX> That website was hacked
[10:33] <kOpter> I see :)
[10:33] <kOpter> I meant this site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katapult
[10:33] <Chousuke> Lamers.
[10:34] <XVampireX> Ah, it's mac katapult, ok
[10:34] <kOpter> No, katapult is linux Quicksilver :)
[10:35] <XVampireX> quicksilver is mac katapult
[10:35] <XVampireX> That's what I meant
[10:35] <XVampireX> Quicksilver looks more comprehensive
[10:37] <kOpter> It is.. it scans your email and documents and stuff
[10:39] <Chousuke> Quicksilver is brilliant.
[10:39] <DaSkreech> kOpter: Whats Quicksilver?
[10:39] <Chousuke> It's the first application that ever made me really go "wow".
[10:40] <DaSkreech> Quicksilver != spotlight?
[10:40] <Chousuke> true.
[10:40] <DaSkreech> Ok WIkipedia to the rescue!
[10:40] <DaSkreech> Man I hate that site
[10:40] <DaSkreech>  It's evil :-(
[10:41] <munzir> goldenear: it seems our timetable is very hard to meet ;) I will not give hope and try to catch you again to try twinkle with you man
[10:41] <kOpter> No it's not.. but I think quicksilver has a spotlight extension
[10:41] <Chousuke> It does.
[10:41] <Chousuke> I really hope Ubuntu gets something equal.
[10:42] <Chousuke> They'll have a hard time doing any better, so equal will have to suffice :P
[10:42] <DaSkreech> Chousuke: In what way?
[10:42] <Chousuke> DaSkreech: in every way.
[10:42] <kOpter> Spotlite like technology :)
[10:42] <DaSkreech> Ah
[10:42] <kOpter> Google desktopsearch :)
[10:42] <munzir> Wow: if this is katapult site: http://wiki.thekatapult.org.uk/ then it's hacked?
[10:43] <Chousuke> kOpter: I meant quicksilver.
[10:43] <kOpter> yup
[10:43] <Chousuke> spotlight isn't nearly as interesting.
[10:43] <kOpter> Yeah, but it's''the same thing :)
[10:43] <Chousuke> huh? no.
[10:43] <Chousuke> :p
[10:43] <kOpter> Spotligh and google desktop search?
[10:43] <Chousuke> I'm confused.
[10:43] <Chousuke> I'm not talking about spotlight.
[10:43] <Chousuke> or desktop search
[10:44] <kOpter> I was :)
[10:44] <Chousuke> search is boring. I know where my stuff is.
[10:44] <kOpter> True, but It's nice if katapult can find it
[10:44] <Chousuke> Sure.
[10:44] <Chousuke> But Katapult has the potential to do much, much more.
[10:44] <kOpter> like?
[10:45] <kOpter> I just see it like a fancy kicker
[10:45] <DaSkreech> Chousuke: So let me get this right
[10:45] <Chousuke> kOpter: katapult, at the moment, is a launcher.
[10:45] <DaSkreech> quicksilver is a cross of spotlight and on the fly Automator?
[10:45] <Chousuke> hmm
[10:45] <DaSkreech> Chousuke: With no alternatives :(
[10:45] <Chousuke> that's somewhat accurate.
[10:45] <DaSkreech> Thats annoying
[10:45] <kOpter> No, quicksilver is almost the same as katapult, but it has more extensions
[10:45] <DaSkreech> If I have a file and a command with the same name I can't choose between the two
[10:46] <Chousuke> DaSkreech: Why not? :p
[10:46] <bilford> what does Katapult launch
[10:46] <DaSkreech> The first one it finds I assume
[10:46] <Chousuke> I suppose it launches anything you tell it to
[10:46] <DaSkreech> I can't tell it that I want the next hit
[10:47] <taupter> Riddell: ping
[10:47] <Chousuke> DaSkreech: press down-arrow?
[10:47] <Chousuke> that works in QS
[10:47] <DaSkreech> I don't think that works
[10:47] <DaSkreech>  Quick Check shows a no :)
[10:47] <Chousuke> hm :/
[10:47] <Chousuke> that's a bug.
[10:47] <bilford> I start Katapult, and I see a slingshot
[10:47] <Chousuke> :P
[10:47] <bilford> what do I do next
[10:47] <Chousuke> type
[10:47] <kronoz> alt+space
[10:47] <bilford> ok
[10:48] <Chousuke> ah, right. :p
[10:48] <kOpter>  Type console and press enter :)
[10:48] <kOpter> Eh, I meant terminal
[10:49] <bilford> cool
[10:49] <DaSkreech> Bilford: just think of something and type
[10:49] <DaSkreech> I LUV the kcalc integration
[10:49] <DaSkreech> Faster calculator is always better
[10:50] <XVampireX> What do you think of Kommander?
[10:50] <Chousuke> I especially love iTunes integration.
[10:50] <Chousuke> Play/Stop/Next are probably my most used commands :P
[10:50] <XVampireX> amaroK > iTunes
[10:50] <Chousuke> along with a playlist browse trigger.
[10:50] <DaSkreech> * > iTunes
[10:51] <Chousuke> I agree.
[10:51] <kOpter> Can you disable the fade.. its REALY slow..
[10:51] <bilford> and whats the fastest way to pull up Katapult
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Alt+space
[10:51] <XVampireX> alt-space
[10:51] <XVampireX> meh
[10:51] <bilford> cool
[10:51] <Chousuke> DaSkreech: but no other player on OS X is supported by QS :(
[10:51] <kOpter> They definaly need a new icon :)
[10:52] <kOpter> Chousuke> Like that's a surprise :)
[10:52] <DaSkreech> Chousuke: Oh I have no problem with iTunes integration
[10:52] <DaSkreech> I just don't like iTunes :)
[10:52] <Chousuke> I don't like it either.
[10:52] <DaSkreech> kOpter: You mean the slingshot?
[10:52] <Chousuke> but I can't use other players with Quicksilver.
[10:52] <kOpter> Yeah.. it's REALLY ugly :)
[10:52] <DaSkreech> You should have seen it before :)
[10:52] <Chousuke> besides... There are no other players for OS X ;P
[10:53] <Chousuke> not ones worth mentioning at least.
[10:53] <DaSkreech> vlc?
[10:53] <DaSkreech> Though I'm not fond of that either
[10:53] <bilford> Katapult even does calculations
[10:53] <Chousuke> heh :P
[10:53] <Chousuke> does it search google?
[10:54] <bilford> I dont know
[10:54] <Chousuke> hope they write lots of plugins for it.
[10:54] <kOpter> yeah it does..
[10:54] <DaSkreech> Chousuke: Better I hope they open up the plugin structure so anyone can write one :)
[10:54] <DaSkreech> kOpter: how?
[10:54] <kOpter> Wel.. sortof :X
[10:54] <kOpter> If you type google.. it goes to google Quicksearch and searches for %s...
[10:55] <kOpter> Which is about half what I want :)
[10:55] <Chousuke> heh :p
[10:55] <Chousuke> I defined a web search to a Japanese-Japanese dictionary for Quicksilver. It's pretty handy for me, as I study the language. :)
[10:56] <MetaMorfoziS> basszameg a kurva let
[10:56] <Chousuke> hm.
[10:56] <DaSkreech> kOpter: Run that by me again?
[10:56] <kOpter> DaSKreech: It doens't work..
[10:56] <Chousuke> If that was hungarian, I think it wasn't very polite.
[10:57] <genjix_> wtf, I just installed Kubuntu and when I go to network tab the window is so large the buttons at the bottom are cut off. maximising doesn't do much.
[10:58] <genjix_> someone should sort that form out
[10:58] <DaSkreech> Alt+Mouse drag
[10:58] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[10:58] <GeneralZod> genjix_:Press Alt+F2, type kcontrol
[11:01] <genjix_> GeneralZod: the panel is so large you cant see the bottom
[11:01] <GeneralZod> genjix_:Even in kcontrol?
[11:02] <genjix_> GeneralZod: ohh ok
[11:02] <genjix_> still I do think thats a pretty bad start for anyone that installs it
[11:03] <GeneralZod> genjix_:kcontrol is the original KDE settings app; the new System Settings app is quite a lot buggier :)
[11:03] <DaSkreech> GeneralZod: Agreed!
[11:03] <genjix_> how can I unmask all the packages (what file is the one with comments in) - [long time since I last tried kubuntu] 
[11:04] <DaSkreech> I don't understand all the code though so I don't jump in with my ideas
[11:04] <DaSkreech> genjix_: Using Adept?
[11:04] <kOpter> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:04] <genjix_> ok
[11:04] <DaSkreech> Aww :-(
[11:04] <DaSkreech> Adept is pretty cool at it
[11:05] <DaSkreech> I love the adept interface except they took out the terminal
[11:05] <DaSkreech> I just started using the tags thing the other day
[11:06] <GeneralZod> DaSkreech:There was a poll about kcontrol vs System Settings on the forums a while back: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170526
[11:07] <kOpter> I think Synaptic is way better then Adept
[11:07] <DaSkreech> kOpter: In what way?
[11:07] <DaSkreech> Not arguing just want to know
[11:08] <DaSkreech> Now I know how people feel when I say I hate kopete
[11:08] <GeneralZod> DaSkreech:I'm an absolute KDE whore, but even I prefer Synaptic to Adept at the moment :).  Adept is still very young, though, so I'm sure this will change :)
[11:09] <khaije1> GeneralZod: i agree
[11:09] <bilford> Konversation is underrated
[11:09] <GeneralZod> GeneralZod:Adept seems buggier, and offers less features (no Locking Packages, downloading Changelogs, etc).
[11:09] <bilford> I never heard about it until I installed Kubuntu the other day
[11:09] <GeneralZod> Oops - I replied to myself :)
[11:09] <DaSkreech> Changelogs :'(
[11:09] <DaSkreech> man I miss Changelogs :)
[11:09] <khaije1> bilford: i agree w/ that too :-)
[11:10] <kOpter> I usually just use apt-get
[11:10] <DaSkreech> khaije1: Bilford: could be worse you could be using kynaptic
[11:10] <bilford> I dont know what that is
[11:10] <DaSkreech> kOpter: I like Adept cause I can delte a program and  everything that depends on it
[11:10] <bilford> Im new to Linux
[11:10] <bilford> but Ive learned a lot in a week
[11:11] <khaije1> DaSkreech: i did for a couple days when i first switched to ubuntu, it really gave me a bad impression
[11:11] <kOpter> DaSkreech Adept just calls apt-get
[11:11] <DaSkreech> khaije1: Oh lord kynaptic was bad
[11:12] <DaSkreech> One application single handly made me stop using Kubuntu
[11:12] <bilford> when you apt-get something that has dependencies, do those get installed too
[11:12] <bilford> like in Adept
[11:12] <bilford> apt-get install
[11:12] <GeneralZod> bilford:Yep :)
[11:12] <kOpter> Yeah, but why would your not want that?
[11:13] <kOpter> Does KDE have something like Expose?
[11:13] <GeneralZod> kOpter:kompose, but I think it might be software-only
[11:14] <GeneralZod> kOpter:and therefore, slow :(
[11:14] <bilford> what Linux features is Vista going to copy
[11:14] <GeneralZod> kOpter:Although I hear that some of the later releases use the Composite X extension.
[11:14] <kOpter> I can't run anything else then software here (intel chipset) so..
[11:15] <kOpter> Installed kompose.. now to figure out how it works :)
[11:15] <GeneralZod> kOpter:Hopefully kde4 will have some features that make use of XGL/ aiglx/ $DOMINANT_DESKTOP_ACCELERATION_TECHNOLOGY :)
[11:15] <khaije1> monad/powershell <= bash
[11:16] <GeneralZod> kOpter:Does the Intel chipset not have open-source DRI drivers?
[11:16] <bilford> how do you see the Properties of "Start Menu" items?  when I right-click, it just opens the app
[11:16] <khaije1> xgl-like features in vista were announced- after they were already debuted in linux, the list goes one
[11:16] <bilford> so you can set shortcuts
[11:17] <bilford> lol
[11:17] <khaije1> bilford: right click the start menu
[11:17] <khaije1> and pick
[11:17] <bilford> I guess that only works if it's unlocked
[11:17] <bilford> ok Menu Editor
[11:17] <khaije1> bilford: i had a feeling i was missing something :-)
[11:18] <bilford> I wonder why  that disappears when locked
[11:19] <bilford> I dont see alt+Space in Katapult
[11:19] <bilford> even though that works
[11:19] <kOpter> Can someone tell me how kompose works?
[11:20] <GeneralZod> kOpter:How do you mean?
[11:20] <kOpter> I've got it running, but what key do I press to show all my windows?
[11:21] <GeneralZod> kOpter:It's configurable; right-click on the system tray icon.  I had mine set to show all windows when I hit the bottom-right hand corner of the screen with the mouse pointer :)
[11:23] <khaije1> anyone know who i should speak to about getting a hostname mask?
[11:23] <kOpter> I can't find the config menu?
[11:23] <GeneralZod> kOpter:Hang on; I'll install it again and take a look ...
[11:23] <kOpter> Ah got it
[11:24] <kOpter> Auch.. that WAY slow
[11:24] <GeneralZod> kOpter:Yep; fraid so :(
[11:25] <GeneralZod> kOpter:XGL on my nvidia 5200 was glorious, though ;)
[11:25] <sonic> Anyone knkow anything about smp kernels and kubuntu?
[11:26] <kOpter> Yeah.. but my ubuntu box has an onboard videocard.. so then I'd have to get a PCI NVidea card from somewhere
[11:26] <GeneralZod> kOpter:That's a shame :/
[11:26] <kOpter> Should be possible though.. some old gefore MX 4
[11:26] <kOpter> Should be quick enough
[11:27] <DaSkreech> khaije1: Monad is pretty neat
[11:28] <khaije1> DaSkreech: i haven't played w/ it, but i'm wondering how this will affect linux tools since there is alway a give and take of ideas, microsoft is taking, but if they really get something right i'm sure it will get a free implimentation
[11:29] <DaSkreech> khaije1: They have a few flaws like passing everything as an object
[11:30] <DaSkreech> There are a lot of cool things
[11:30] <khaije1> DaSkreech: but even that is a potential strength, i wonder if it will find real world adoption
[11:30] <khaije1> DaSkreech: whats the coolest thing about it?
[11:30] <DaSkreech> oh the thing film between GUI and real world people and the command line
[11:30] <DaSkreech>  It's like an automator for admin and for JoeDon'tKnow
[11:32] <Riddell> taupter: hi
[11:33] <taupter> Riddell: Heh... I'm looking for libexscalibar to install amarok-14 but I found it. :) Sorry...
[11:33] <taupter> Riddell: And thanks for packaging Amarok and Koffice. :)
[11:33] <Riddell> groovy
[11:33] <bilford> whats the best way, besides using QuickPar in Wine, to do par2 repairs
[11:34] <bilford> easiest way, I mean
[11:34] <ahmeni> Monad is what Unix Services for Windows should have been :\
[11:34] <taupter> Riddell: One more thing
[11:35] <bilford> what would be the command line to associate with par2 files to open them up in Wine'd QuickPar?
[11:35] <taupter> Riddell: Cmake in dapper is 2.2.3 and so it's not suitable to develop kde4. I made a 2.4.1 package. If you want...
[11:36] <taupter> DaSkreech: Huh?
[11:36] <DaSkreech> taupter: One more thing?
[11:37] <Riddell> taupter: can you put it on revu?  we weren't allowed to put 2.4 into dapper but we can put it into edgy once that's open
[11:37] <joscha_> taupter: i'm interesseted ;)
[11:38] <taupter> Riddell: I'll find out how to put it on revu. I'm pretty new to Kubuntu (ex-mandriva user)
[11:38] <taupter> joscha_: I can send it to you. DCC or e-mail?
[11:38] <Riddell> taupter: come and join us in #kubuntu-devel if you want
[11:39] <joscha_> taupter: email would be fine... joscha.arenz@arcor.de
[11:39] <taupter> Riddell: Thanks, I'll do it. :)
[11:39] <robotgeek> joscha_: hope you have good spam filterss, everything you say heere is logged
[11:40] <joscha_> damn
[11:41] <DaSkreech> Yep kompose is much slower than I recalled
[11:44] <DaSkreech> hi apol
[11:44] <DaSkreech> hi raphink
[11:44] <raphink> hi DaSkreech
[11:44] <apol> hi
[11:45] <bilford> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/17/166245&from=rss
[11:46] <bilford>  Sun Puts its Weight Behind Ubuntu Linux
[11:46] <robotgeek> lets hope Sun is not too fat :)
[11:48] <bilford> what do you mean
[11:50] <wasp_ems> hi can someone tell me how to change my font color in the konsole..cause i cannot find where to do it?
[11:51] <bilford> try Settings- Schema
[11:52] <GeneralZod> wasp_ems:Settings->Configure Konsole->Schema should do it.
[11:52] <GeneralZod> Too late :(
[11:52] <wasp_ems> schema changes the colour of the backround..i want it to be transparent but with white fonts
[11:52] <bilford> your way is better
[11:52] <bilford> gives you more options
[11:53] <bilford> do it GeneralZod's way
[11:55] <wasp_ems> does anyone use k3b??
[11:55] <bilford> yes
[11:55] <wasp_ems> i want to know if i can make it use files from my network
[11:56] <wasp_ems> cause it tells me it can only use local files
[11:56] <GeneralZod> Night, all! :)
[11:57] <wasp_ems> bilford: any ideas?
[11:58] <bilford> yes
[11:58] <bilford> you can
[11:58] <wasp_ems> can u tell me how?
[11:59] <bilford> do you have smb4k running
[11:59] <wasp_ems> what is that?
[11:59] <wasp_ems> samba?
[11:59] <bilford> for Samba shares
[11:59] <wasp_ems> i think so
[12:00] <wasp_ems> well i can see the files on my network
[12:00] <bilford> ok
[12:00] <jarlath> Does the speech tool in Akregator work for anyone? I dont get any output.
[12:00] <bilford> you mount it in a folder
[12:01] <Taya> arch: so i have laptop ;) and lcd has some problems, very often on monitor appears message LCD STATUS (or smth like this) ON/OFF
[12:01] <Taya> or LCD changed pr smth like this.
[12:02] <bilford> wasp_ems: I forgot how I did it, but I associated one of the network computers to a folder in my  Home directory
[12:02] <bilford> and that folder shows up in k3b