| kwwii | and nobody can stop them (I tried) | 12:02 |
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| andreasn | what? for play buttons and normal stuff? | 12:02 |
| kwwii | for everything | 12:02 |
| kwwii | well, everything in amarok | 12:02 |
| andreasn | aarrgh! | 12:02 |
| kwwii | lol | 12:02 |
| kwwii | oh, we even sent official mails asking them to stop and they said no | 12:03 |
| andreasn | what if I have problems with my eyes and need some high-contrast-stuff? | 12:03 |
| andreasn | does amarok-devs hate people with seeing disorder? | 12:03 |
| kwwii | well, if you change the theme, then it will still change | 12:03 |
| kwwii | basically they are adding another defualt for amarok before the rest of the kde icon stuff | 12:03 |
| kwwii | but somehow it changes when you change themes | 12:04 |
| andreasn | like with magic? | 12:04 |
| kwwii | dude, half of amarok is magic I think | 12:04 |
| andreasn | heh | 12:04 |
| kwwii | ever hear the story how they made the nifty wave motion for the eq when you start it? | 12:04 |
| kwwii | it was a bug | 12:05 |
| kwwii | so they kept it | 12:05 |
| andreasn | hahaha | 12:05 |
| andreasn | sounds like coding demo-scene demos to me | 12:05 |
| kwwii | yeah | 12:05 |
| kwwii | I am always amazed at how well it works | 12:05 |
| andreasn | have you tried sending off a mail to the xdg-list about the icon issue? someone over there must have a clue about how it should work | 12:07 |
| andreasn | because I'm really interested in the issue | 12:08 |
| kwwii | to be honest, since I stopped working for suse I have tried to stay away from conflict with my ex-colleagues | 12:08 |
| andreasn | do you think it would be a conflict? I mean, it's just a question how it's supposed to work | 12:09 |
| kwwii | oh, I am pretty sure it will be because it is an issue of tango and how that relates to the kde desktop in suse | 12:10 |
| andreasn | hm, ok | 12:11 |
| kwwii | all of my old friends are pretty much disliking their jobs now and simply want the easiest way out so they can do their job without a fight | 12:11 |
| kwwii | eventually I will | 12:11 |
| kwwii | when my stomach tells me to :-) | 12:12 |
| andreasn | :) | 12:12 |
| andreasn | interesting how much debate the whole issue has created | 12:13 |
| andreasn | it's just icons | 12:13 |
| kwwii | yeah, no shit | 12:13 |
| kwwii | I will go along with anything as long as we do not force anyone to use one kind of artwork or another | 12:14 |
| kwwii | :-) | 12:14 |
| andreasn | forcing stuff on people sound offencive | 12:14 |
| andreasn | but I agree | 12:14 |
| kwwii | hehe, see I just got another mail about this stuff | 12:17 |
| kwwii | the discussion will never end | 12:17 |
| andreasn | man, it would be really cool to have a free desktop artists meeting at some point | 12:18 |
| andreasn | meet some people in the community and stuff | 12:18 |
| kwwii | I really wanted to make it to the libre graphic meeting but simply coudn't | 12:18 |
| andreasn | yeah, I know | 12:18 |
| andreasn | it was nice | 12:18 |
| kwwii | I spend like two weeks a month away from home now | 12:19 |
| kwwii | and theoretically I do not even have a job | 12:19 |
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| andreasn | kwwii: did you mean this - http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-kde/2006-May/0001.html ? | 12:22 |
| kwwii | lol | 12:23 |
| kwwii | never saw that before | 12:23 |
| kwwii | I was just kinda assuming it would be like that | 12:23 |
| kwwii | I does make me feel good though :-) | 12:24 |
| andreasn | crazy discussion | 12:24 |
| andreasn | why is that? | 12:24 |
| kwwii | not so crazy really | 12:24 |
| kwwii | well, I did all the artwork at suse for 7 years (ie. kde) | 12:24 |
| kwwii | and now I am gone | 12:24 |
| kwwii | and they can try to sell kde with gnome icons | 12:24 |
| kwwii | the whole point of this is to devalue kde and suse so the novell can sell gnome | 12:25 |
| kwwii | totally bullshit | 12:25 |
| kwwii | I had bosses telling me "we simply need to get rid of the suse customers so that we can sell novell linux" | 12:25 |
| kwwii | I wish them all the luck in the world, thanks be to god I do not have to whore myself | 12:26 |
| andreasn | with icons that are a mix of g-i-t and crystal, hm | 12:26 |
| kwwii | if they would at least do it 100% it would not be soo bad | 12:27 |
| kwwii | but if they do that they can simply remove kde as well | 12:27 |
| andreasn | you mean mixing the styles fully, or implenting the style fully? | 12:28 |
| kwwii | implement the style fully | 12:28 |
| kwwii | desktop choice in linux is still a religion | 12:28 |
| andreasn | yeah, I noticed | 12:29 |
| andreasn | I'm more like that I care little about the desktops, and more about the apps | 12:30 |
| kwwii | I just want things to look nice | 12:30 |
| kwwii | :-) | 12:30 |
| kwwii | and work well | 12:30 |
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| andreasn | yeah | 12:30 |
| andreasn | well, I hope the whole toolkit-nazism sorts out some time in the future, but I'll probably have to wait a couple of more years for that ;) | 12:34 |
| andreasn | need to hit bed now | 12:34 |
| andreasn | been nice chatting to you | 12:34 |
| andreasn | night all! | 12:34 |
| kwwii | see you soon | 12:35 |
| kwwii | sleept well | 12:35 |
| andreasn | thanks | 12:35 |
| andreasn | you too | 12:35 |
| kwwii | ok...night all | 12:45 |
| kwwii | bis morgen | 12:45 |
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| omeg | arrrgh | 08:19 |
| omeg | Just as I finish all my new propositions, someone posts that we must include sample text and OK/FAIL colors. | 08:19 |
| omeg | !@#$!@#$ | 08:19 |
| omeg | Well, major update from my part | 08:39 |
| omeg | Waiting for the page to save | 08:39 |
| omeg | Does Viper550 visit this channel under a different name? | 08:41 |
| omeg | Does anyone even look at this channel at all? :) | 08:41 |
| jimmac | I'm lurking all the time :) | 08:43 |
| omeg | Yeah, I think that this is the first time I've actually seen you talk | 08:43 |
| omeg | How are you? | 08:44 |
| omeg | Tsh, those lurkers. They say something and then they're gone. I had a friend once, but then he became a lurker, too. Never heard of him again. | 08:48 |
| kwwii | omeg: I do not think you need to post the edited pic, just the colors to show what they could/would be | 08:59 |
| omeg | Maybe. | 09:00 |
| omeg | Making pixel fonts is so incredibly boring. | 09:00 |
| kwwii | I admit we are going somewhat over the top for one pic | 09:01 |
| kwwii | artwork by commitee rarely works | 09:01 |
| omeg | Well, it is still the one screen that millions of people will see during startup... | 09:01 |
| kwwii | that is true | 09:02 |
| kwwii | but I know that making the kubuntu splash was a lot less work :-) | 09:02 |
| omeg | Was it? I wasn't around then, I think. | 09:03 |
| omeg | I only followed the mailing list occasionally until now. | 09:03 |
| omeg | Well, now that I've put so much effort in that stupid pic, I sure hope mine does get accepted... | 09:03 |
| kwwii | I mean the one for dapper...it has been done for months | 09:04 |
| kwwii | lol | 09:04 |
| kwwii | I can imagine | 09:04 |
| omeg | 12th letter of the capitals done... | 09:05 |
| omeg | Wooh, all capitals done. | 09:10 |
| omeg | Fastest pixel font I've ever made. Now 30 minutes break and then to do lowercase... | 09:10 |
| kwwii | how are you making it? | 09:12 |
| jimmac | omeg: doing fine :) don't let those chennel lurkers annoy you | 09:40 |
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| omeg | kwwii: xmbdfed | 09:42 |
| omeg | Also, back, and back to work... | 09:43 |
| kwwii | omeg: cool, have fun...making a font is a lot of work | 09:43 |
| kwwii | that is pretty impressive | 09:43 |
| omeg | Nah, anyone can make a pixel font in a short time. | 09:47 |
| omeg | Vector fonts take time, though. | 09:47 |
| omeg | My friend who works as pixel artist at a mobile phone gaming company said she made like 30 pixel fonts in one week, at one time. Only 2 were accepted. :P | 09:47 |
| kwwii | hehe | 09:47 |
| kwwii | well, making a true type font, with hinting, etc is not sooo easy | 09:48 |
| omeg | I wish it was | 09:48 |
| kwwii | the ubuntu-title font needs a lot of work | 09:48 |
| omeg | Yeah, it has some kerning issues and it doesn't have any capitals. | 09:50 |
| kwwii | I noticed the kerning issues | 09:56 |
| kwwii | are you doing this "for fun"? | 09:56 |
| omeg | Now for some final tweaking... | 10:03 |
| omeg | Well, I'm going to send it to an Ubuntu dev who wanted to have a look at a new font for usplash. Whether it's for Dapper or Edgy, I don't know. I'm more than glad to submit one since I think the current usplash font is appaling. | 10:04 |
| omeg | There will probably be some kind of vote about that later if it's still for Dapper. | 10:04 |
| kwwii | hehe | 10:05 |
| kwwii | I see that voting is pretty popular | 10:06 |
| omeg | Well, I've finished the font, and it seems to work, but I can only open BDF fonts in xmbdfed. | 10:07 |
| omeg | Want to help me test it? | 10:07 |
| kwwii | erm, what does that mean to my system? :-) | 10:09 |
| kwwii | watching a football match at the moment :-) | 10:09 |
| omeg | Arsenal - Barcelona? | 10:09 |
| kwwii | yepp | 10:09 |
| omeg | I was watching it until I decided to come back here to finish this thing :P | 10:09 |
| omeg | I guess I'll just upload it so others can test it later and go back to watching | 10:09 |
| kwwii | :-) | 10:09 |
| kwwii | I keep running back and forth | 10:09 |
| omeg | http://omega.avalanchestudios.net/personal/dropbox/usplash/new/Usplash_Mono.bdf | 10:14 |
| omeg | Whoever can test it, please do and give feedback if you have any. :) | 10:14 |
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