[12:00] <Rhine> How do i past somethign in to the bin folder it says i dont have persmission but im logged in as su
[12:01] <Drac|Mac> Hmm..
[12:01] <Drac|Mac> They stopped being down. Nevermin.
[12:01] <Drac|Mac> Nevermind*
[12:01] <Sanne> Drac|Mac, the channel for the forums is #ubuntuforums, you might get better answers there next time.
[12:01] <liran_> seems like rythmbox is gnome default music player, how do i change that?
[12:02] <Drac|Mac> Sanne, I didn't know that. Sorry.
[12:02] <Omni|Work> Rhythmbox is a horrible crashy program.
[12:02] <Sanne> Drac|Mac, no problem, just so you know :)
[12:02] <Drac|Mac> I just got an old "bondi blue" G3 iMac. I tried to install Ubuntu on it, but the installer CD, while booting, says it fails to decompress about a hundred things, then has a kernel panic. Any ideas?
[12:03] <jkarr> does anyone know how to change the terminal capabilities??
[12:03] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: do you have at least 3gb free space on / ?
[12:04] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: or is this before the install has begun?
[12:04] <h3h_timo> why doesnt the theme manager come up whenever i try to run it
[12:04] <Abountu> does anyone knows where does gaim store the logs? (the chat logs)?
[12:04] <Drac|Mac> Jowi, this is before.
[12:04] <lithia> jkarr: linux is great!  if I was using Ms windows, my system would have crashed!  I didnt need to type anything, a window popped up saying FORCE QUIT!
[12:04] <Rhine> How do i switch to "owner" when this is the only account on the drive?
[12:04] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: did you burn the cd yourself? is the md5sum ok?
[12:05] <Drac|Mac> Jowi, I've used two copies, the md5sum is fine, and I used the same CD to install Ubuntu on this later model iMac.
[12:05] <Xbox_guru> how do I install a .tar.gz file
[12:05] <mwe> lithia: doesn't windows pop up a window saying when an application is not responding?
[12:06] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: then I do not know
[12:06] <Drac|Mac> :(
[12:06] <jcapote> can anyone recommend me a text editor with svn support
[12:06] <Sanne> Xbox_guru, tar.gz is an archive file you need to decompress first. What you do with it depends on what's inside ;)
[12:07] <kri> hello
[12:07] <kri> where do i dl latest version?
[12:07] <Abountu> jcapote: eclipse? I wouldn't say it's a text editor... but it can edit text
[12:07] <jcapote> right
[12:07] <apikoros> hi everyone
[12:07] <lithia> mwe: yes, but this time nothing popped up for 5mins
[12:07] <jcapote> yea thats what i thought, i was hoping for something lighter
[12:07] <lithia> mwe DUH!
[12:08] <Abountu> jcapote:... did you try searching on the internet?
[12:08] <jcapote> yup i googled for svn text editor
[12:08] <Rhine> Anyone know how to write to my root/bin folder its not allowing me to and im super user?
[12:09] <apikoros> Rhine, sudo
[12:09] <Rhine> is that all i type?
[12:09] <apikoros> sudo followed by the command you want to execute
[12:09] <apikoros> like sudo cp file /root/
[12:10] <Rhine> Oh ok thanks very much
[12:10] <apikoros> it will ask you for password -- type your own.
[12:10] <Xbox_guru> sanne: the newest version of firefox is inside
[12:10] <Chasehead> hello people
[12:11] <Abountu> I have a question about sudo, is any user allowed to run sudo, executing root command only using his own password?
[12:11] <Kelsey23> Nope
[12:11] <Kelsey23> Only people who you say can run sudo :-S
[12:11] <Kelsey23> *:-D
[12:11] <Sanne> Xbox_guru, ah, the firefox binary from mozilla.org? You can decompress the archive in a directory of your choice and the run the binary. But I think there's a tutorial about that on the wiki, lemme check.
[12:11] <Chasehead> that would seem pretty unsecure if you could
[12:12] <Abountu> Kelsey23: where exactly do I say that? and by default the user that is created when ubuntu is installed has the right to run sudo..
[12:12] <Kelsey23> Abountu: By default, that is the only person who can run sudo
[12:13] <nickrud> Abountu, anyone in the admin group can run sudo
[12:13] <Abountu> Kelsey23: ok thank you
[12:13] <Sanne> Xbox_guru, here's the wiki page (I didn't follow this one myself, but sinde this is the official recommendation, it should work for you): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:13] <Omni|Work> lithia: Some people at worked helped me.  Your singularily unhelpful and dismissive answer surprised me.  I expected better out of the Ubuntu community.  I wouldn't have gotten that in Fedora despite the fact that the people there can be very abrasive.
[12:13] <Abountu> Xbox_guru: it worked for me
[12:14] <kri> is there net install?
[12:16] <Jowi> !netinstall
[12:16] <ubotu> somebody said netinstall was To install Ubuntu via the net, try here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75372 ... Breezy netboot CD image: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[12:19] <dli> where are the files for the gnome applications menu?
[12:19] <nzx> hey, does the synaptics driver not work in breezy ?
[12:19] <Niceron> hi
[12:20] <McNutella> whats that nice wee ubuntu themes place?
[12:20] <Niceron> i am trying to install vmware and I got this msg : What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel
[12:20] <Niceron> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[12:20] <Niceron> so what should I install ?
[12:20] <Niceron> what package
[12:20] <Niceron> kernel headers ?
[12:20] <nzx> Niceron, do you have the kernel headers installed>?
[12:20] <amphi> Niceron: install the kernel-headers package
[12:20] <loquitus_of_borg> Hey people. I am in the following situation. I am remotely accessing a client's machine. The client knows little or nothing and cannot help me. The client is running Ubuntu. Right now, the machine has two ethernet cards in it. One is enabled -- the other is not. The moment I enable the second one, I cannot connect in anymore. I am assuming that the machine does not know how to properly route packets out to the Internet with the
[12:20] <loquitus_of_borg> two interfaces. How can I assure it does once I enable the card? (if I enable it and don't deal with this, I can no-longer login to fix it)
[12:20] <dli> Niceron, install the linux-headers package
[12:21] <Niceron> linux or kernel
[12:21] <Niceron> what is the name of the package
[12:21] <james_> can anyone tell me how to enable the DVD player on ubuntu
[12:21] <amphi> !dvd
[12:21] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:22] <dli> Niceron, "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` "
[12:22] <McNutella> !themes
[12:22] <wims> !mysql
[12:22] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:22] <nzx> Niceron, do, apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r
[12:22] <fblade> hey guys can i ask what codecs i need to make ubuntu work like windows for al media files?
[12:22] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: how are you doing this 'enabling'? ifconfig?
[12:22] <nzx> Niceron, do, 'at-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)'
[12:23] <Niceron> dl thanx
[12:23] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: network-admin
[12:23] <Mark|> hey, what kernel version comes with the 5.10 install?
[12:23] <dli> Mark|, uname -a
[12:23] <nzx> Mark|, uname -a
[12:23] <james_> ok other then the bot i have gone to that wiki page and i still can not find that libdvdcss2
[12:23] <Mark|> I don't have it installed
[12:23] <Mark|> I sure fucking hope I know what uname -a does
[12:23] <fblade> anyone
[12:23] <Mark|> ;P
[12:23] <dli> ubotu tell nzx about easysource
[12:24] <Mark|> so
[12:24] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: did you look at the current /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:24] <Mark|> anyone want to reveal this top secret info?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Mark|: language
[12:24] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: yes. briefly.
[12:24] <Mark|> english prefered
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Mark|: watch your language
[12:24] <nzx> dli, thanks, i didnt ask for it just then though :P
[12:24] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: not sure how that helped. I am guessing here that my routing is getting all screwed up with the two different subnets
[12:24] <fblade> can anyone hep me please
[12:24] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: try configuring the card with ifconfig and route manually
[12:25] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: with just one subnet, the gateway to the internet (default gateway) is obvious.
[12:25] <nzx> can someone tell me if the synaptics touchpad driver is broken in breezy ?
[12:25] <dli> !ubotu tell fblade about win32codecs
[12:25] <Kyoske> hey guys i gots a question
[12:25] <dli> nzx, it is not broken in breezy
[12:25] <Kyoske> where can i find a system rescue cd download
[12:26] <wims> there's a rescue
[12:26] <dli> Kyoske, ubuntu livecd
[12:26] <wims> Kyoske, there's built in rescue on the cd
[12:26] <nzx> dli, ok thanks alot, its strange, wheel scroll wont work for me
[12:26] <wims> just type rescue at the prompt
[12:26] <Sanne> fblade, look also here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:26] <eyedol> my Network Manager doesn't work it tells me No network connection
[12:26] <amphi> Kyoske: sysresccd.org is a nice one IMHO
[12:26] <dli> nzx, have a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (don't edit it)
[12:26] <Xbox_guru> sweet, Firefox is updated, thanks guys
[12:26] <coz_> recent dapper updates, last 15 minutes, has replaced the ubuntu distributor logo next to applications with the gnome foot....any way to systemically change this??
[12:26] <Xbox_guru> mabey it'll run faster noe...
[12:26] <Xbox_guru> *now
[12:27] <loquitus_of_borg> is there a place to specify the default gateway device if I have two cards installed?
[12:27] <Sanne> Xbox_guru, cool :)
[12:27] <Xbox_guru> hey, how do I get new ubuntu themes
[12:27] <Kyoske> well see i already have the ubuntu thing downloaded, so i already have the system rescue?
[12:27] <eyedol> how do i make Network manager detect wireless network
[12:27] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, edit your /etc/network/interfaces file to your needs, and pastebin the file
[12:28] <dli> eyedol, what wifi card?
[12:28] <wims> Kyoske,  yes, there's a rescue cd thingie built in on the Ubuntu cd, just type rescue at the prompt when you enter the cd and reboot
[12:28] <amphi> eyedol: try iwlist and iwconfig
[12:28] <Kyoske> promtp?
[12:28] <Kyoske> is that when i have the install screeny?
[12:28] <wims> at the first screen
[12:28] <nzx> dli, would you be able to look at my config? i'm putting it at pastebin right now
[12:28] <Kyoske> lol sry, im big time noob
[12:28] <eyedol> dli: Atheros 802.11b/g wireless
[12:28] <Kyoske> and what will that do, by the way?
[12:29] <wims> you can press enter to enter the installer, or you can type in a special installer, like rescue or system
[12:29] <nzx> dli, http://pastebin.com/721442
[12:29] <james_> can someone help me with the DVD setup
[12:29] <dli> eyedol, I think it's supported, so, "sudo iwconfig"
[12:29] <MystaMax> !DVD
[12:29] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:29] <nzx> actually everyone can look, can someone spot why scrolling sint working for me with my synaptics touchpad ?
[12:30] <eyedol> dli:is that all
[12:30] <james_> Mystamax i looked at that and can not find the Libdvdcss2
[12:30] <amphi> eyedol: iwlist <interface> scan should show available networks
[12:30] <dli> nzx, you have synaptics support in your xorg.conf
[12:30] <dli> eyedol, do you see a wireless card there?
[12:31] <nzx> dli, yep, i've loaded it, but its not working for some reason
[12:31] <eyedol> dli: yeah i see
[12:31] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: http://pastebin.com/721443
[12:31] <Poker> Hey how can i solve this error: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" It should be with aptitude but i d on't know he right command
[12:31] <eyedol> dli:atho
[12:31] <dli> nzx, have a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log , locate EE and WW
[12:32] <amphi> Poker: install build-essential
[12:32] <dli> eyedol, yes, "sudo iwlist ath0 scan"
[12:32] <Rhine> Anyone know why bittorrent isnt downloading a file? It downloaded fine on my windows machine...
[12:32] <Poker> amphi: aptitude install build-essential ?
[12:33] <loquitus_of_borg> People. Here is my interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/721443          I basically want to ensure that when I bring eth2 up, that eth0 is still the default interface to the internet.
[12:33] <Blake79> On live CD[12:33] <loquitus_of_borg> how do I do that?
[12:33] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, you configured only eth0, one card
[12:33] <amphi> Poker: not sure, I use apt-get - 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' will do it for you
[12:33] <amphi> Blake79: yes
[12:33] <eyedol> dli: i get Error: unrecognised wireless card
[12:34] <Blake79> will that cause any problems unforeseen?
[12:34] <eyedol> dli: i get Error: unrecognised wireless request "scan"
[12:34] <Abountu> Does anyone know where does gaim same the chat log files
[12:34] <amphi> Blake79: what's on the first disk?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> Poker: aptitude or apt-get
[12:34] <dli> eyedol, okay, driver error
[12:34] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: you sure? look at the bottom. eth2 is there too
[12:34] <Blake79> Windows XP pro, second is data back-up with around 25gb free
[12:34] <Poker> ok thank you....
[12:34] <Rhine> Is there any alternate bittorrent clients for linux?
[12:34] <Poker> i have solved that problem
[12:34] <eyedol> dli, how do i fix that?
[12:35] <MisterN> Rhine: i used rtorrent some time ago
[12:35] <Poker> but now i have anotherone.... checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[12:35] <Xbox_guru> are there any guides to installing Mozilla thunderbird thunderbird
[12:35] <lakcaj> Anyone here running dapper?  I did and apt-get update today, and now my nvidia module doesn't load.  Wondering if anyone else is experiencing this.
[12:35] <Blake79> what is the command to bring HD's into the desktop? ubotu gave me the link last time.
[12:36] <amphi> Blake79: you can either install grub (the ubuntu boot loader) to the mbr of the first disk (it should give you an option to boot windows), or install it in the mbr of the second disk and use bios to select the boot device
[12:36] <james_> !dvd
[12:36] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:36] <gnomefreak> lakcaj: join #ubuntu+1 please for dapper
[12:36] <Hypoxiacion> site slow for anyone else?
[12:37] <Blake79> what is mbr? and will i need grub if i install into 2nd?
[12:37] <dli> eyedol, are you following the madwifi ubuntu howto?
[12:37] <Hypoxiacion> mbr = master boot record
[12:37] <ktogias> Is there any option to make nautilus cd/dvd burner burn cds/dvds on the fly (with out creating the inage to the hard disk frst)?
[12:38] <eyedol> dli: no i guess i have to url please
[12:38] <amphi> Blake79: 'master boot record' - you'll need the bootloader on one of the disks; if your bios lets you choose the boot device easily, then I'd install it to the second disk, leaving your windows disk unchanged
[12:38] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, oh, sorry, my fault
[12:39] <Blake79> that's what i'm hpoing, and yes, BIOS is easy to change.   So i put in the install CD, and it will prompt which one to install to?  What about grub?
[12:39] <dli> eyedol, www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-105437.html
[12:39] <eyedol> dli: thanks
[12:39] <Blake79> is it needed?
[12:40] <eyedol> dli: hope it helps
[12:40] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, eth2 is not configured correct, for static IP, you need "address", "netmask", "gateway"
[12:40] <Xbox_guru> hey, is there a ubuntu guide for thunderbird
[12:40] <Blake79> does anyone know the script to run to bring Window's HD onto desktop?  (want to make sure i install to correct one?)
[12:40] <amphi> Blake79: tell it to install grub on that disk's mbr - which disk is it on which controller?
[12:40] <dli> eyedol, also, http://www.madwifi.net/
[12:40] <james_> Xbox_guru what do you need to know about thunderbird
[12:41] <eyedol> dli: checking... that as well
[12:41] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: well see that's where I don't understand. I want to ensure that my defualt gateway is through the eth0 interface -- how would I do that?
[12:41] <james_> Xbox_gure: what is your question for thunderbird
[12:41] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, no, you have to understand how it is connected
[12:42] <MystaMax> ahh!, the forums are down?
[12:42] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, at least for static IP
[12:42] <MystaMax> no ping replies from www.ubuntuforums.or
[12:42] <MystaMax> g
[12:42] <MystaMax> :(
[12:42] <Hypoxiacion> Im having trouble connecting to the forums too
[12:43] <Xbox_guru> james_: are there any installation guides
[12:43] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: ok... well. the eth2 interface clearly has the ip and netmask set. I just have not set the gateway yet. can I set the gateway to be the gateway provided to me on the eth0 interface?
[12:43] <loquitus_of_borg> as in, if the eth0 interface is on the 192.168.1 subnet, can I put in "gateway 192.168.1.1" as the gateway entry for eth2?
[12:43] <Poker> someone knows why i have this error "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" ???
[12:43] <Malbojia> good evening all
[12:43] <james_> Xbox_guru: did you just install ubuntu
[12:43] <watson540> Hey guys i have this unique problem while compiling something from cvs, and although its unique to me its not toally isolated by the apps that give the error, i have googled this a BUNCH and have found a lot of complaints but no resolv..
[12:44] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, why do you need eth2 then?
[12:44] <dli> Poker, "sudo apt-get install libX11-dev"
[12:44] <roostishaw> what is the command to appen a string of text to the end of a file in bash?
[12:45] <eugman> How do you temporarily prevent an autorun from being mounted?
[12:45] <Poker> dli: ho gi installato libx11-dev
[12:45] <watson540> aclocal: configure.in: 32: macro `AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library - and this one on another line - aclocal: configure.in: 40: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library - all this is given while running an 'autogen.sh' script and the autogen is trying to run 'aclocal' when it fails with this error
[12:45] <Poker> dli i already installed libx11-dev
[12:45] <watson540> I have just upgraded to dapper this morning because someone suggested it and reported that this app did INDEED build on his system
[12:46] <dli> Poker, libxt-dev
[12:46] <watson540> I have installed libtool, and m4 and all other required deps
[12:46] <james_> is dapper better then brezzy
[12:46] <amphi> watson540: try #ubuntu+1 perhaps
[12:46] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: I am trying to connect to some boxes that are directly on the eth2's 172.17 subnet
[12:46] <amphi> james_: doesn't sound it ;) dapper is still unstable
[12:47] <eugman> roostishaw the format of output >> file  should work.
[12:47] <Poker> dli: ok thanks
[12:47] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, you don't have a router for this subnet?
[12:47] <eugman> Let me find an exact link
[12:47] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: other LAN machines should have this machines LAN iface ip addr as default gw
[12:48] <Malbojia> Was wondering if theirs a gui ftp client that can do SSL ftp connections?
[12:48] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: and you need to enable forwarding on this machine
[12:48] <eugman> http://www.linux.org.mt/node/49#N1042E
[12:48] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: there are routers for both subnets...
[12:48] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, use the currect box then, gateway 172.17.22.200
[12:48] <james_> oh ok
[12:48] <james_> then i will stick with brezzy
[12:49] <james_> why dosnt brezzy come with libdvdcss2
[12:49] <amphi> james_: wiser IMHO
[12:49] <james_> amphi: what
[12:49] <james_> is IMHO
[12:49] <amphi> james_: legal reasons (US I believe, but perhaps not only)
[12:49] <james_> oh ok
[12:49] <amphi> james_: install the bsdgames package and use wtf(6) ;)
[12:49] <Sanne> watson540, maybe try using an automake version? Get info with 'update-alternatives --display automake'
[12:49] <Sandma> afternoon all, Calif here
[12:50] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: basically, I have subnet 172.17, and subnet 192.168.1. Both have routers. The Internet is on the 192.168.1 subnet at the 192.168.1.1 address. So I want this machine to be able to talk to everything on both subnets, and also know that internet packets go out on the 192.168.1 subnet to the 192.168.1.1 router gateway
[12:50] <james_> amphi: i dont get what you mean with wtf(6)
[12:50] <Sanne> watson540, s/an automake version/another automake version/
[12:50] <Sandma> any idea why my firefox is not running Java, do I need a plugin or somthing??
[12:50] <amphi> james_: wtf is a program, the 6 refers to the section of the manual its manpage resides in
[12:50] <eugman> James, A analogue is lock picking. It's illegal to buy lock picks in my state but I won't be arrested for having them and picking locks I own. Ubuntu doesn't want to get in trouble for distrubuting dvd lockpicks.
[12:50] <Sandma> newbie...just installed Ubuntu 5.10
[12:51] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: basically, I have subnet 172.17, and subnet 192.168.1. Both have routers. The Internet is on the 192.168.1 subnet at the 192.168.1.1 address. So I want this machine to be able to talk to everything on both subnets, and also know that internet packets go out on the 192.168.1 subnet to the 192.168.1.1 router gateway
[12:51] <james_> oh ok
[12:51] <james_> well i got it now
[12:51] <james_> i just had to re do my repositores
[12:51] <james_> =)
[12:51] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, then, it should work as it is
[12:51] <eugman> Congratulations , Sandma. Is there anything you'd like help with inparticular?
[12:52] <Xbox_guru> James_: yes I just did
[12:52] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, maybe, add a default gw
[12:52] <amphi> james_: programs can have pages of the same name in different sections - eg crontab(1) describes the crontab program, and crontab(5) describes the crontab file syntax; so for the latter, you would do 'man 5 crontab'
[12:52] <Sandma> just the Firefox asking me for java....
[12:52] <Xbox_guru> james_: I installed a couple of days ago and am still new to linux
[12:52] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, post-up route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[12:52] <james_> Xbox_gure: ok it is already on your system
[12:52] <james_> you just have to goto the add applications
[12:52] <Sandma> I'm an OS/2 user from the beggining....
[12:52] <Sandma> is that for me James?
[12:52] <james_> amphi: ok
[12:52] <james_> brb
[12:53] <Sandma> so how do I do that??
[12:53] <watson540> Sane: actuyally as someone rccommended (the same guy that got it to build) to,ld me the same thing, update automake so i did, i installed version 1.7 AND 1.9 both giving the same error :(
[12:53] <james_> sandma: what are you asking
[12:53] <nickrud> !tell Sandma about javadebs
[12:53] <rosen> what's the command to get the bot to tell me something ?
[12:53] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: just bringing up the LAN iface should create a suitable routing entry for that subnet, without affecting the default gw
[12:53] <Sandma> my firefox is asking for "java" to connect to a site...
[12:53] <nickrud> rosen, /msg ubotu <factoid>
[12:53] <Sandma> is there  a plugin or somthing
[12:54] <amphi> rosen: /msg ubotu foo
[12:54] <Xbox_guru> James_: how do I make it my default mail application
[12:54] <nickrud> Sandma, you should have gotten a pm that tells you how to install java
[12:54] <amphi> !java
[12:54] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:55] <zack_> im still having trouble with this nvidia driver install can someone help me?
[12:55] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: but where is the default gateway even specified? I mean seriosly... how does this machine know where the heck to send internet bound packets unless I tell it?
[12:55] <watson540> Sanne: any more ideas?
[12:55] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: so in interfaces, I add "post-up route add default gw 192.168.1.1" to the eth2 section after the netmask entry?
[12:55] <salah> what do I need to play .wmv files?
[12:55] <Xbox_guru> james_: it said that application mozilla thunderbirdnot available. The application can not be found in my archive
[12:55] <Sandma> java is instlled on the system...1.4.2
[12:56] <Karant> hello
[12:56] <Karant> I need some help mounting a hard-drive.
[12:56] <salah> hi
[12:56] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: you use route; eg. route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[12:56] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, it should work as it is
[12:56] <watson540> dooglus: are you here bro?
[12:56] <Sanne> watson540, no, sorry, at this point I recommend asking the programmers about this.
[12:56] <james_> Xbox_guru: just a sec
[12:57] <zack_> im still having trouble with this nvidia driver install can someone help me?
[12:57] <MisterN> n8
[12:57] <Karant> Can somone please private-message me if willing to help me mount a Windows hard-drive. Thanks.
[12:57] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, if not, "route" to debug
[12:57] <james_> Xbox_guru: click on system, preferance, prefered application
[12:57] <dli> ubotu tell Karant about ntfs
[12:58] <james_> Sandma: sorry was afk you will need to update you java
[12:58] <Xbox_guru> james: ok, I'm there
[12:58] <nickrud> Sandma, 1.4.2 is too old for many of the newer sites
[12:59] <Karant> Okay, I got one of my Windows drives mounted, how do I make it so I can 'write' it and have full permsissions?
[12:59] <Sandma> might be,,,but firefox should see it anyway
[12:59] <Sandma> thanks...you are a very busy person...go on vacation,,,,
[12:59] <zack_> is this 1 command or 2 ?
[12:59] <nickrud> Sandma, try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:59] <zack_> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[12:59] <zack_> CC=gcc-3.4 sudo ./NVIDIA*
[12:59] <james_> Xbox_guru: see where is says mail reader
[01:00] <Xbox_guru> james: yes
[01:00] <lufis> Hi, I'm having a lot of trouble with a lexmark printer driver. The driver isn't listed when I go to install a new printer, so I downloaded it off of lexmark's website. The tarball contained an sh script and a readme. I followed the instructions on the readme and ran the script, but I can't find the ppd anywhere!
[01:00] <nickrud> Karant, ubuntu doesn't support writing to ntfs
[01:01] <wims> are there som kinda system update tool like windows update for winxp ?
[01:01] <james_> Xbox_guru: click on it and select tunderbird
[01:01] <corhere> I have an HP printer and I installed the HPLIP GUI package. Even though I can print and scan perfectly, The hp-toolbox shows a dialog to the effect of "no HP printers available" and exits. Is there any way to fix this? The command-line tools detect and communicate with the printer just fine.
[01:01] <james_> Xbox_guru: click on custom
[01:01] <Xbox_guru> James; Thunderbird isn't an option
[01:02] <{fletch}> fletch_
[01:02] <james_> Xbox_guru: if it is not there then you will need to add it by the add application
[01:03] <nickrud> wims, yes, it's called the update-manger, & runs automatically if you're on the net. A red icon will appear on your top menubar if an update is available
[01:03] <adriatichero> hello guys. i've a question: i've a working fedora 5 installation on an old machine (laptop) with 128 MB RAM *without* cd rom. i've downloaded the xubuntu iso (the latest available: flight 7). is there a way i can replace fedora with xubuntu by booting from the iso image on the hard disk? i don't care about loosing the data i've now ...
[01:03] <apokryphos> adriatichero: /msg ubotu install
[01:03] <Sanne> wims, if you run Gnome, there'a the update notificator in the system tray, or you could run Synaptic and let it show you upgradable packages.
[01:03] <Xbox_guru> james: it says it can't install thunderbird because it says it isn't available
[01:03] <unf> hello
[01:03] <wims> Sanne, thanks
[01:04] <wims> doesn't show any updates though
[01:04] <Sanne> wims, you're welcome
[01:04] <wims> maybe my version is too old?
[01:04] <unf> ive installed the sun JDK via aptitude and netbeans' installation doesnt find it, is it normal?
[01:04] <Karant> Okay, can someone please help me mount a secondary NTFS drive of mine (no OS installed on it) (HDA2/D:\ partition)?
[01:04] <wims> i run Hoary
[01:04] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: ok... why does it say now that interface eth2 is not configured?
[01:04] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: this happens if I try to ifdown eth2
[01:04] <Sanne> wims, ah, dunno, maybe there are no more updates for Hoary?
[01:05] <wims> Sanne,  yeah that's what i'm thinking
[01:05] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, "ifdown eth2", and do it manually, after it works, set up your interfaces
[01:05] <eyedol> wims, Hoary is way out dated
[01:05] <wims> yeah i know it's old
[01:05] <wims> but i don't have any empty dvds or cds at my hand
[01:06] <wims> so i have to stick to hoary i guess
[01:06] <Sanne> wims, you did try updating your package list, yes?
[01:06] <wims> Sanne yes i did
[01:06] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: I know. I tried to ifdown eth2. that's the error I got
[01:06] <Sanne> wims, ok, just checking ;)
[01:06] <eyedol> wims: do you have interent connectivity
[01:06] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, go ahead
[01:07] <wims> eyedol,  i'm here now so i have :)
[01:07] <corhere> anybody here have any experience with hp-toolbox?
[01:07] <eyedol> think of updating your source.list
[01:08] <wims> can i put breezy stuff in it and it still will work with hoary?
[01:08] <eyedol> change all instance of hoary in your source.list file to breezy
[01:08] <lss> hi, I am using 16bit colour depth, and I can notice the limited colour palette with (which should be) smooth transitions. How can I increase the bit depth?..Thanks
[01:08] <wims> ahhh k
[01:08] <wims> gonna try that
[01:08] <Xbox_guru> I downloaded Mozilla thunderbird off of the website, how do I extract the files?
[01:08] <eyedol> wims: then do sudo apt-get update
[01:08] <eyedol> wims: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:09] <eyedol> vims: to upgrade your system to breezy at least
[01:09] <nickrud> lss, in /etc/X11 , there's a line DefaultDepth , change that to 24
[01:09] <nickrud> lss, er, /etc/X11/xorg.conf even
[01:09] <zack_> im trying to fix my video driver settings, im at this site https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual?highlight=%28nvidia%29 but when i get to the second to last command it doesnt work, can someone help me
[01:09] <lss> nickrud,  thanks a lot
[01:09] <nickrud> lss, then log out of your desktop & hit clt-alt-backspace
[01:10] <unf> ive installed the sun JDK via aptitude and netbeans' installation doesnt find it, is it normal?
[01:11] <wims> eyedol,  how big is the download, do you know?
[01:11] <kubus> Xbox_guru, use file-roller or somthing like that, or type: tar -xv /path/to/thunderbird.tar.gz
[01:11] <salah> where do I get win32codecs?
[01:11] <nickrud> !codecs
[01:11] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:11] <zack_> how do you uninstall programs? like wine
[01:11] <Xbox_guru> kubus, ok I extracted it, how do I run the install shield
[01:11] <eyedol> wims: no but it depending your connectivity, it can take some time if it is slow
[01:12] <kubus> zack_, sudo apt-get remove filename or use synaptic
[01:12] <wims> eyedol, yeah, i'm on 1mbit
[01:12] <zack_> ok
[01:12] <wims> 450 megs
[01:12] <||arifaX> zack_ you hang at that multiline command on the wiki?
[01:13] <krispo> hoal
[01:13] <Rhine> If i want to access a 80gb harddrive on the same rig what filesystem should i format it as i tried Extended 2 and 3 but they only give me 13 gb
[01:13] <krispo> alguen sabes
[01:13] <krispo> como  configurar   la  soiulser list
[01:13] <zack_> ya
[01:13] <nickrud> !es
[01:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:13] <zack_> the cc=gcc command
[01:13] <zack_> for breezy
[01:14] <||arifaX> line#1: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[01:14] <||arifaX> CC=gcc-3.4
[01:14] <krispo> ken me puede ayudar
[01:14] <krispo> con la soursetlist  de  ubuntu
[01:14] <zack_> ok
[01:14] <||arifaX> zack: line#1: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 CC=gcc-3.4
[01:14] <nickrud> krispo,  #ubuntu-es por favor
[01:14] <||arifaX> zack: line#2: sudo ./NVIDIA*
[01:15] <nickrud> heh, my spanish truly sucks
[01:15] <McScruff> what command do i use to see the chipset in a usb wifi device
[01:15] <wims> well, it was sufficient for that
[01:16] <zack_> ok when i type "sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 CC=gcc-3.4" it says E
[01:17] <zack_> E: couldn't find package CC
[01:17] <dli> zack_, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[01:17] <dli> McScruff, lsusb
[01:17] <MystaMax> how do i check what kernel i have installed via the terminal
[01:17] <zack_> okok
[01:18] <McScruff> ty dli
[01:18] <dli> McScruff, you may need usbutils
[01:18] <kubus> zack_, use this command before you install the 3.4 compiled nvidia drivers: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 after youve installed gcc3.4
[01:18] <McScruff> i hope its not broadcom
[01:18] <dli> MystaMax, no, broadcom wireless sucks
[01:18] <MystaMax> dli: huh? u mean mcScruff?
[01:19] <McScruff> hehehe
[01:19] <wims> why does it suck?
[01:19] <salah> where do I get win32codecs?
[01:19] <||arifaX> zack:: sorry told you wrong: line#1: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4          line#2: CC=gcc-3.4    line#3: sudo ./NVIDIA*
[01:19] <dli> MystaMax, sorry
[01:19] <zack_> oh
[01:19] <MystaMax> its cool
[01:19] <fletch_> question: does broadcom wireless have native linux support in dapper?
[01:19] <||arifaX> zack_ thats because I don't own a nvidia...
[01:19] <nickrud> !w32codecs
[01:19] <nickrud> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install. To use w32codecs on a 64-bit system, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[01:19] <zack_> ok i tried line#1: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 line#2: CC=gcc-3.4  and now i just did this "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4"
[01:19] <McScruff> fletch_, yes but its crap and you need to use fwcutter
[01:20] <fletch_> McScruff: o? fwcutter?? I have a presario v2000 i kept on a wired connection because of this
[01:21] <McScruff> fletch_, if you search the wiki there is a huge amount of info, i have it working but still use ndiswrapper
[01:21] <zack_> now i just tried sudo ./NVIDIA* and it said " sudo: ./NVIDIA*: command not found
[01:22] <helpneeded> hello all
[01:22] <kubus> zack_, type: sudo sh /path/to/nvidia/driverpaketname.run
[01:23] <helpneeded> hows everyons day
[01:23] <fletch_> McScruff: great! thanks a lot, just one question, do you have the ability to physically shut your wireless on and off within ubuntu and have it play nice at the same time with your config?
[01:23] <jtmoney_> !wireless
[01:23] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[01:23] <helpneeded> !install
[01:23] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[01:24] <amphi> fletch_: I shut mine off my removing the module ;)
[01:24] <zack_> driverpaketname.run?
[01:25] <helpneeded> i have a ? reguarding ubuntu install cd
[01:25] <kubus> zack_, you try to install the gcc3.4 compiled nvidia drivers?
[01:25] <zack_> kubus, yes
[01:25] <duckdown> Hey guys, how can I use a VGA font in a gnome-terminal?
[01:25] <zack_> i think
[01:25] <helpneeded> teh dvd believe its called ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386
[01:26] <helpneeded> i asume that lets you install the full o/s  onto a hard drive
[01:26] <daryl_> I have run the command "sudo apt-get remove wine" and it did not completely remove wine.  when I type wine, it still performs wine funcitons.  how do i really remove it?  (#winehq said to ask my distro)
[01:26] <nickrud> zack_, on the command not found it's one of two things: you're not running the command in the same dir as the NVIDIA script, or it's not executable
[01:27] <zack_> nickrud, how do i find the directory its in?
[01:27] <nickrud> zack_, sudo updatedb && locate NVIDIA
[01:28] <starkes> hey, can anyone here tell me where the kernel sources are located? (yes i did install the package, and its for 2.6.12)
[01:28] <nickrud> starkes, /usr/src
[01:28] <zack_> nirckrud, ok what now? i typed that in and it waited a minute or to and now im back at the prompt
[01:29] <nickrud> zack_, if locate NVIDIA doesn't work now, are you sure you have it?
[01:29] <starkes> hmm, does that package by default not fill up a directory with headers and whatnot? i just realized all i have in there is a compressed file
[01:29] <starkes> guess i should extract that
[01:29] <daryl_> Anyone hae an answer about hwo to completely remove a pplication, when apt-get remove doesn't work?
[01:30] <nickrud> starkes, if all you need are the headers (that is, you're compiling a module, not the entire kernel) you only need to do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:30] <ericz> daryl_ sudo dpkg -P packagename, but why wouldn't apt-get work?
[01:31] <megaman123> how can mount a windows harddrive??
[01:31] <starkes> ah, i think i only need the headers, i need them so vmware can compile a custom module for itself
[01:31] <amphi> daryl_: apt-get remove --purge will remove the package and its config files
[01:32] <zack_> nickrud, no im not sure i have it i have done all the steps so far on this site https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual?highlight=%28nvidia%29, and the xorg.conf has "geforce 6800 ?" as my card listed(mine is 6800gs) so i assume i do have it
[01:32] <Imarri> hi
[01:32] <daryl_> ericz: no idea why apt-get didnt't work.
[01:33] <daryl_> amphi, um... hrm thanks
[01:33] <megaman123> i have 2 harddisks..linux (boot - master) and windows (slave) ... i want to see the windows drive ?? how
[01:33] <GhOsT> bonjour
[01:33] <helpneeded> can someone tell me if this file lets you install the full version of ubuntu onto hard drive ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso
[01:33] <Imarri> does anyone know how to install a php mode for emacs
[01:33] <nickrud> daryl_, did you go to http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html and get the file yet?
[01:33] <GhOsT> quelqu'un parle francais ?
[01:33] <tahorg> !fr
[01:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:33] <GhOsT> mici :)
[01:33] <Imarri> i tried but it gave me a weird error
[01:33] <intelikey> megaman123 mount it.
[01:33] <daryl_> nickrud: um no.  why?
[01:33] <intelikey> !tell megaman123 about ntfs
[01:34] <Imarri> is anyone hearing me
[01:34] <nickrud> daryl_, cuz that's where you get the file that matches NVIDIA* :)
[01:34] <bilford> helpneeded:  the next version is coming out in 2 weeks.  maybe best to get the Dapper CD
[01:34] <daryl_> nickrud: but i am not having a problem with nvidia
[01:34] <megaman123> thanks all :))
[01:34] <amphi> Imarri: "php-elisp - Emacs support for php files", quoth apt-cache
[01:34] <helpneeded> ah ok ... lol somesaid that in a post on the forum wasnt you by any chance  lol ????
[01:35] <bilford> me?  no
[01:35] <lwizardl> if i want to format /dev/hdb as a single drive i already did fdisk /dev/hdb d 1 and d 2 (no partitions left). now i want to format the drive so i can mount it whats next
[01:35] <amphi> Imarri: BTW, if no one answers it's probably because they don't know and/or don't care
[01:35] <nickrud> daryl_, you said sudo ./NVIDIA* didn't work, you need to get the video driver file from nvidia. Or I am totally confused.
[01:35] <zack_> nickrud, that was me hahha
[01:35] <Imarri> ok
[01:35] <daryl_> ericz: sudo dpkg -P packagename did not remvoe it either.
[01:35] <daryl_> nickrud: perhaps there was another daryl asking for help earlier?
[01:35] <amphi> lwizardl: mkfs -t whatever /dev/hdb
[01:35] <nickrud> zack_, daryl_ erg :)
[01:35] <daryl_> nickrud: or perhaps it was zack:_ hehe
[01:36] <zack_> nickrud, ok since i cannot view gnome how do i get the file?
[01:36] <Imarri> amphi: i did a search in synaptic for php mode, installed it and it gave me an error even though it installed
[01:36] <bilford> helpneeded: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[01:36] <daryl_> ericz: any other suggestions? = )
[01:36] <bilford> helpneeded: you dont need the DVD, just the CD
[01:36] <nickrud> zack_, you can do sudo apt-get install lynx , and run lynx from the command line. It's a text based browser
[01:36] <kubus> zack_, http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html download the right driver in your homefolder (For Ubuntu i386 you need IA32). Now remove all the nvidia-glx stuff (sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx). Install the Kernel Headers (only the headers) and build-essential and gcc-3.4. Then close X (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop). Now export gcc (export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4). Then install nvidia drivers (sudo sh /home/zack/nvidia*.run (replace the example with the righ
[01:36] <kubus> t patch and filename)). Now type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choice "nvidia" isntead of "nv". Now startx with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start".
[01:37] <amphi> Imarri: I use vim, so I'm not the best person to ask; could you be less vague about the error?
[01:37] <lwizardl> is this wrong ? mkfs -t /home/user/pcstorage /dev/hdb
[01:37] <Kyoske> crap crap crap
[01:37] <nickrud> lwizardl, in many ways
[01:37] <Kyoske> i need some help quick
[01:37] <Kyoske> nickrud
[01:37] <Kyoske> someone i knoow ^^
[01:38] <Imarri> ok
[01:38] <nickrud> Kyoske, I promise nothing :)
[01:38] <Kyoske> good
[01:38] <lwizardl> nickrud, ok, wanna help me?
[01:38] <Imarri> jus give me a minute
[01:38] <Kyoske> well i installed the ubuntu
[01:38] <nickrud> lwizardl, you want to mount a partition, what type?
[01:38] <lwizardl> format & partition
[01:38] <Kyoske> and then  it kicked out my device and restarted
[01:38] <Kyoske> and now it is asking for some
[01:38] <nickrud> lwizardl, what type & what partition?
[01:39] <amphi> lwizardl: yes
[01:39] <kubus> zack_, if you have problems, install irssi and lynx, then you can use IRC and www without X.
[01:39] <Kyoske> proper boot device
[01:39] <Kyoske> what is the prober boot device!?!><
[01:39] <amphi> lwizardl: -t is to specify the fs type; you specify the mount point at mount time, not mkfs time
[01:39] <lwizardl> what filesystem is best for files 4gb+
[01:39] <amphi> lwizardl: xfs is designed for large files
[01:39] <dli> lwizardl, jfs, xfs, reiser4
[01:39] <nickrud> Kyoske, I don't know much about the installer, I just used it a couple of times
[01:39] <Kyoske> who does><
[01:40] <Imarri> amphi: This is the error: E: php-mode: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:40] <Kyoske> cuz i dont know what to do now
[01:40] <Kyoske> i cant install anytrhing
[01:40] <lwizardl> how stable is xfs ?
[01:40] <amphi> lwizardl: seems fine, I use it here ATM
[01:41] <squidgy> Hi.  I have been successfully using totem to view Xvid-encoded .avi files for some time now, but suddenly files that used to play back correctly are displayed with completely incorrect colors (which look like they're wrapping around from being scaled up by some large factor.)  Any ideas on what's wrong?
[01:41] <dli> lwizardl, it's designed for server, and in stable kernel
[01:41] <dmbt> does ubuntu breezy use the dev file system?
[01:41] <dmbt> or can we just turn that off in the kernel?
[01:42] <nickrud> dmbt, of course it does
[01:42] <amphi> dmbt: devfs? that's been 'deprecated' for a long time
[01:42] <dmbt> yeh, but on the stock kernel they have it set so its built in
[01:42] <amphi> deprecated with prejudice ;)
[01:42] <dmbt> some distros, as ugly as it is still use it
[01:42] <Kyoske> sigh -_- no one will help me and my computer is on the line here =(
[01:42] <jtmoney> !updates
[01:42] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jtmoney
[01:42] <amphi> dmbt: that'd be udev, no?
[01:42] <dmbt> i assume ubuntu uses udev, correct?
[01:42] <jtmoney> !security
[01:42] <ubotu> jtmoney: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:42] <dmbt> yes
[01:42] <nickrud> disappearing devs, heh
[01:43] <dmbt> i like udev
[01:43] <nickrud> s/dev/developers/
[01:44] <Kyoske> hey does anyone know any thing about installing ubuntu?
[01:44] <dmbt> Kyoske: probably
[01:44] <Kyoske> can u take the time to help me?
[01:44] <wims> have macromedia released proper flash for 64 bits firfox yet ?
[01:44] <nickrud> wims, no
[01:45] <wims> nickrud, k, thanks anyway
[01:45] <Kyoske> dmbt, can you help me with my problem(s)
[01:45] <dmbt> well, the whole room can
[01:45] <amphi> Kyoske: WAYTTD?
[01:45] <dmbt> theres 703 users in here, and at least 50% of them can help
[01:46] <untung> can we installed winxp and ubuntu on single hardddisk?
[01:46] <wims> untung,  sure
[01:46] <Kyoske> wayttd?
[01:46] <jvai> wassup uall
[01:47] <wims> untung,  but you need separate partitions
[01:47] <Jowi> Kyoske: let me see if I understood you correctly. you had 2 harddiskdrives. you installed ubuntu on one of them. then you removed one of the drives from your computer and now it wont boot?
[01:47] <untung> wims, how can we create separare partion on single harddisk?
[01:47] <untung> and wims which one should i installed first, ubuntu or xp?
[01:48] <daryl_> how do i delete files globally from a root command?  the browser window doesn't have sudo or root priveledges.
[01:48] <amphi> Kyoske: what are you trying to do?
[01:48] <richiefrich> anyone qemu
[01:48] <Xappe> untung, first xp...then leave empty space on harddisk for ubuntu to use
[01:48] <richiefrich> ?
[01:48] <amphi> richiefrich: someone qemu
[01:49] <wims> untung, there are several utilities that can partition your harddisk, like PQMAgic for Windows XP. But it costs money. I would install WinXP before  Ubuntu, but I don't know if it's required
[01:49] <Kyoske> amphi, im trying to install ubuntu
[01:49] <roostishaw> will restarting my comp also do the same thing as killall gnome-panel?
[01:49] <Kyoske> i booted it up with the cd
[01:49] <richiefrich> amphi, u used it ?
[01:49] <daryl_> how do i delete files globally from a root command?  the browser window doesn't have sudo or root priveledges.
[01:49] <amphi> richiefrich: yeah
[01:49] <Kyoske> tried to follow my friends intructions but what he had put, wasnt working for me
[01:49] <richiefrich> amphi,  can i load a dmg or must it be an iso or img ?
[01:49] <amphi> daryl_: sudo rm foo
[01:49] <untung> xappe, how big the partition for ubuntu and what format? xp can do NTFS
[01:50] <amphi> richiefrich: dmg?
[01:50] <Kyoske> when installing, you have a blue screen right, with grey boxes?
[01:50] <daryl_> amphi: but that doesn't go into subdirectories...
[01:50] <wims> untung, if you have a new harddisk without anything on it you can create new partitions with fdisk. If you have data on the harddisk it will be lost though
[01:50] <richiefrich> amphi, dmg = mac OSx
[01:50] <amphi> daryl_: man rm ;)
[01:50] <daryl_> sudo man rm?
[01:50] <Kyoske> am i right?
[01:50] <Kyoske> is that hwo it is for everyone?
[01:50] <kubus> dark, only man rm.
[01:50] <amphi> richiefrich: ah... I don't think you can boot an osx image under qemu, but ask in #qemu perhaps
[01:50] <roostishaw> will restarting my comp also do the same thing as killall gnome-panel?
[01:50] <roostishaw> anyone?
[01:50] <megaman123> trying to compile something and got this error "no rule to make target 'mad.h' ????
[01:51] <untung> wims, i am thinking about creating a separate NTFS parttion and let ubuntu reformat that
[01:51] <amphi> Kyoske: I don't recall ;)
[01:51] <richiefrich> amphi, thanks i asked waiting for answer
[01:51] <Xappe> untung, first make a partition for windows using the windows installer (during the windows install) leave the remaining space for ubuntu to format during ubuntu installation
[01:51] <wims> untung, i would just leave empty unparti9tioned space at the end of the disc after the win xp partition
[01:51] <watson540> Sanne: hey you still there? i finnally FIGURED it out!!
[01:51] <amphi> richiefrich: what is this 'dmg' terminology?
[01:51] <SpeEn> Hello, I was wondering what the latest version of dapper is?
[01:51] <Sanne> watson540, yeah, I'm here. What did you do?
[01:51] <wims> untung,  then let ubuntu installer use the rest of the free space for it's partitions
[01:52] <richiefrich> amphi, it's mac's iso
[01:52] <richiefrich> amphi, they use dmg
[01:52] <untung> wims,xappe, you mean i leave the partition unformated?
[01:52] <amphi> richiefrich: it's an iso9660 image, or not?
[01:52] <zack_> kubus, i have done all the steps you said but when i get to sudo ./NVIDIA* it says "sudo: ./NIVIDIA-Linux-blah (name of downloaded file)blah: command not found"
[01:52] <amphi> richiefrich: or iso +RR +J, or what?
[01:52] <wims> untung, yes, make one partition for xp and just leave the rest of the disk unpartitioned. Make sure it's big enough for what you need for your linux install
[01:53] <richiefrich> amphi, no it's -->  dmg on /mnt/OSX type hfsplus (rw,loop=/dev/loop0)
[01:53] <megaman123> ok got it: libmad
[01:53] <wims> untung,  how big you need is a matter of preferance
[01:53] <richiefrich> amphi, i mounted ity
[01:53] <watson540> Sanne: I ended up doing this.... Automake contains the tool aclocal, which installs all requires macros. aclocal gets these macros from a directory with m4 files. aclocal --print-ac-dir reports this directory. Your libtool installation must install the libtool.m4  file in the ac-dir. - so I copied that file (libtool.m4) into the pertaining directory, i had the file it just want in the right folder!!!!
[01:53] <untung> thanks wims, i will try to do that. What boot loader do i need?
[01:53] <amphi> richiefrich: oh, ok, os not an iso image at all
[01:53] <watson540> i still get the error but it builds now Im soo happy i been on this for a day!
[01:53] <watson540> :)
[01:53] <kubus> zack_, if the file exists, it must go. but why you dont use the nvidia-glx drivers?
[01:54] <richiefrich> amphi, well i mounted it :)
[01:54] <T`> guys, i get different resolutions when i start xfce thru gdm vs. startx
[01:54] <untung> wims; what i mean is the boot manager for ubuntu and xp?
[01:54] <wims> untung,  there's a bootloader called GRUB thats installed in the ubuntu installer that works pretty good. It should be able to configure itself
[01:54] <T`> anyone know how i can fix it??
[01:54] <zack_> kubus, when i did that command that had to do with removing them like oyu said it said they were never there
[01:54] <Kyoske> ok
[01:54] <Sanne> watson540, wow, sounds tricky, congrats for figuring this out, and thanks for reporting back! :)
[01:54] <Kyoske> i have entered rescue mode
[01:54] <wims> untung,  or boot manager if you like
[01:54] <Dyngo> which one should I use: macromedia flash or gplflash?
[01:54] <richiefrich> amphi,  mount -o loop MAC.dmg /mnt/OSX/
[01:54] <Kyoske> to do somthing
[01:54] <Xappe> untung: you'll be fine with the default ubuntu boot loader (grub) wich will install during ubuntu installation
[01:54] <Kyoske> crap i cant talk here
[01:54] <Kyoske> can someone help me?
[01:54] <watson540> Sanne: yeah i wish im tempted to go postit on ll the forum posts i read in the past day ROFL
[01:54] <zack_> kubus, by the way im using ubuntu breezy for 64 bit machines
[01:54] <Kyoske> and u give ur time to help me?
[01:54] <untung> thans xappe.for the tips
[01:55] <amphi> richiefrich: but qemu doesn't boot it, right?
[01:55] <kaenat> What do I need to install to get the man pages for the standard C lib? I've got libc6-dev installed, but that doesn't have the programming man pages.
[01:55] <Kyoske> can someone help me with installing?!
[01:55] <Kyoske> and u give ur time to help me?
[01:55] <amphi> Kyoske: you booted in rescue mode to install? can you be more clear?
[01:55] <Kyoske> no
[01:55] <Kyoske> i entered rescue mode
[01:56] <amphi> kaenat: manpages-dev
[01:56] <Kyoske> because i remember thats what someone said
[01:56] <kaenat> amphi: ty
[01:56] <kubus> zack_, they've the same commands. Hurm... if the path/filename was correct... it must go, sorry.
[01:56] <Kyoske> so thats what i did, because my comp was fking up and i had no idea what was happening
[01:56] <SpeEn> I'll try again, could anyone tell me what the latest version of dapper is as of now?
[01:56] <Kyoske> it kept saying insert boot media
[01:56] <Kyoske> insert boot media
[01:56] <richiefrich> amphi, right, i wounlder is i mkiso it?  or if i need to pass any flags
[01:56] <Kyoske> and i had no idea what to do
[01:56] <Sanne> watson540, hehe. It's always good to share knowledge :)
[01:57] <squidgy> Apparently, one of the packages I installed today is interfering with totem's rendering.  Is there a log of what was installed (via apt-get) and when?
[01:57] <zack_> kubus, if i just type "./NVIDIA*" it says "bash: ./(filename i downloaded).run: permission denied"
[01:57] <Kyoske> is anyone not going to not help me?
[01:57] <amphi> richiefrich: I don't think qemu can boot osx, as qemu emulates a 'normal' bios, and osx needs something else IIRC, not openfw any more...
[01:57] <SpeEn> exit
[01:57] <amphi> Kyoske: you are trying to install the boot loader, grub?
[01:57] <Kyoske> i dont know
[01:58] <Kyoske> its very confusing and i doubt u can help me
[01:58] <kubus> zack_, oh ok. then you must setz chmod. type: sudo chmod 777 /path/file.run
[01:58] <Kyoske> cuz u are helping everyone else too
[01:58] <kubus> -z
[01:58] <amphi> Kyoske: ok, what is your problem, exactly?
[01:58] <Bung> in wind0g i could open a big archive with winrar and look around and extract certain files... what can i use to do that in linux?
[01:58] <Kyoske> ok i installed ubunut to the extent of where it popped out my cd
[01:59] <zack_> kubus, i type the numbers 777 ?
[01:59] <Kyoske> and said it would restart
[01:59] <richiefrich> amphi, i thought it could, i'm not sure
[01:59] <amphi> Bung: mc deals with various archive types as 'virtual filesystems', dunno if can deal with rar
[01:59] <Kyoske> so i let it do its thing
[01:59] <amphi> Kyoske: and...
[01:59] <Kyoske> and then it came back on
[01:59] <richiefrich> amphi, but im going to DL  a disto iso
[01:59] <kubus> Bung, install rar unrar and unrar-nonfree and use fileroller...
[01:59] <richiefrich> amphi, and try that to test
[01:59] <Kyoske> asking for me to insert some type of boot media
[01:59] <Bung> ok thanks!
[01:59] <Kyoske> and it would wait 5 sec, and resend the text
[01:59] <amphi> Kyoske: is ubuntu all that's on this machine?
[01:59] <Kyoske> i couldnt type or do anything
[02:00] <Kyoske> no
[02:00] <kubus> zack_, yes you can.
[02:00] <Kyoske> im installing it onto my windows xp
[02:00] <Kyoske> ntfs
[02:00] <amphi> Kyoske: and you now can't boot windows either?
[02:00] <kubus> zack_, then everybody can execute or delete the file. for this try its ok.
[02:00] <Kyoske> i doubt that
[02:00] <Kyoske> i could try
[02:00] <Kyoske> but should i?
[02:01] <amphi> Kyoske: won't do any harm
[02:01] <amphi> Kyoske: it may well not work
[02:01] <SAM_theman> hey hommies
[02:01] <Kyoske> kay, cuz all i really want is ubuntu to work and its not working ><
[02:01] <darkelf> Oi kids
[02:01] <starkes> hey, has anyone here got vmware working on ubuntu?
[02:01] <zack_> kubus, what would be the path if i downloaded from lynx?
[02:01] <amphi> Kyoske: do you remember where you installed the ubuntu bootloader?
[02:01] <kubus> zack_, simple type "lynx" in the commandline :)
[02:02] <Bung> starkes, i could tell you, but then id have to kill you O.o
[02:02] <amphi> darkelf: now, now, shared libraries are _fun_ ;)
[02:02] <jvai> lol
[02:02] <Bung> seriously though, not me :)
[02:02] <darkelf> amphi, haha
[02:02] <pdaoust> hey, folks, does anyone know how to hardcode a network scanner into SANE? I think that adding the scanner address in the menu entry is a very inelegant solution, and besides, that doesn't fix the issue of the GIMP's acquire dialogue not being able to find the scanner.
[02:02] <Kyoske> um amphi
[02:02] <Kyoske> i dont realy now
[02:02] <james_> ok i have got the encoders i needed for dvd but now it wont work still
[02:02] <darkelf> amac, so are re-entrant libraries and badly profiled ones :P
[02:02] <Kyoske> im trying to get to my windows
[02:02] <Dyngo> is gplflash better than the macromedia flash?
[02:02] <james_> can someone help me
[02:03] <Kyoske> but all it pops up again is the text asking for proper boot device
[02:03] <amphi> darkelf: as someone said on the plan 9 list, "We don't do shared libraries, because we're the phone company and we don't care" ;)
[02:03] <SAM_theman> vmware no but is vmware good on ubuntu??
[02:03] <darkelf> amphi, plan9, HAH!
[02:03] <zack_> kubus, so i would type sudo chmod 777 /lynx/filename.run ?
[02:03] <starkes> vmware is good on anything if it works
[02:03] <Kyoske> crap crap crap crap
[02:03] <Doxedon> hi
[02:03] <starkes> im having a problem missing a header file called version.h
[02:04] <kubus> zack_, hu? no...
[02:04] <Kyoske> i cant get to my windows
[02:04] <amphi> Kyoske: don't worry, there are things to try ;)
[02:04] <Kyoske> amphi what do i do ><
[02:04] <james_> can anyone help me with my dvd
[02:04] <amphi> Kyoske: can you boot off the cd and get to a shell (text prompt)
[02:04] <amphi> ?
[02:04] <darkelf> amphi, I somewhat appreciate static libraries in jails / chroots ;)
[02:04] <Bung> i guess the old rm -rf / doesnt work in #ubuntu
[02:04] <starkes> does anyone know how i can get a version.h header file in my source directory? i need it to install vmware
[02:05] <kubus> zack_, lynx is a textbase browser, a good fallback variant. if you cant execute the nvidia-driver, then you must set the correct chmod only on this file. lynx has nothing to do with the driver.
[02:05] <Kyoske> yes i can get to a shell
[02:05] <darkelf> amphi, I was referring to... autotools and a configure script choking on dlopen... gotta fix my linker
[02:05] <und3rtug4> Hi there, anyone using/familiar with sqwebmail? My is given me an internal error, and just dont what it is, after 3 days (thats way to much time :S )
[02:05] <zack_> kubus, i used lynx to download the driver what would be directorty it saved to
[02:05] <jvai> james what version of ubuntu do u have? i'm on hoary & got dvd working w/ this - http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[02:05] <darkelf> amphi, mind you, I HATE autotools
[02:05] <james_> i am useing brezzy
[02:05] <james_> i think
[02:05] <jvai> & it works for wmv vids
[02:06] <kubus> zack_, ah ok. i think by deafult your homefolder
[02:06] <amphi> darkelf: in the course of reading a rant about dynamic v. static linking, someone claimed that current static linkers don't only link the bits of libs they need, they link in the whole lib, is that true? it seems incredible
[02:06] <shasbot> is there anyway to get more screen resolution options than the three i have now? i would like to use 1280*1024.
[02:06] <Kyoske> amphi, so i can get to a shell
[02:06] <zack_> kubus, /home/zack/filename.run ?
[02:06] <amphi> Kyoske: rejoice! ;)
[02:06] <Kyoske> should i do that in rescue or defaut installer?
[02:06] <james_> ok
[02:06] <HymnToLife> !tell shasbot about fixres
[02:06] <amphi> Kyoske: type whoami and tell me what it says
[02:06] <darkelf> amphi, you have to be shitting me... you're on the plan9 list and you don't know this?
[02:06] <darkelf> ?!
[02:06] <Kyoske> what?
[02:06] <Kyoske> whoami
[02:07] <Kyoske> lol
[02:07] <jvai> well, i dl'ed easyubuntu 1st, & THAT synced my repository w/ the french servers
[02:07] <kubus> zack_, if your local username is "zack", then youre right. but you can type: cd /home/zack
[02:07] <Kyoske> but can u walk me through this
[02:07] <Kyoske> im at the screen
[02:07] <kubus> zack_, then type: ls
[02:07] <T`> guys, i get different resolutions when i start xfce thru gdm vs. startx... anyone know how to solve this?
[02:07] <amphi> darkelf: in the olden days, linkers used to only pull in the bits they needed
[02:07] <Kyoske> where it has the boot:
[02:07] <Kyoske> and the little ubuntu logo at the top
[02:07] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/721578
[02:07] <Kyoske> what do i exactly do?
[02:07] <amphi> Kyoske: just hit enter and hope for the best ;)
[02:07] <SAM_theman> still get this error
[02:07] <shasbot> thanks hymntolife
[02:08] <Kyoske> wait
[02:08] <kubus> zack_, see the file?
[02:08] <Kyoske> but what was that about
[02:08] <Kyoske> who ami
[02:08] <zack_> kubus, it does not appear to be in /home/zack
[02:08] <Kyoske> and shell
[02:08] <darkelf> amphi, you got a browser? GOOGLE
[02:08] <SAM_theman> please help and heres the help I posted on lq(linuxquestions)---->http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2247097#post2247097
[02:08] <wegstar> debian packages should be able to be installed in Ubuntu?
[02:08] <amphi> Kyoske: you're not in a shell yet
[02:08] <Kyoske> i've clicked enter and hoped for the best 3 times now
[02:08] <darkelf> amphi, good ol' days my butt, I call BS :)
[02:08] <Kyoske> and i've gotten no where
[02:08] <amphi> *shrug*
[02:08] <jvai> james, hava looksee - http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:08] <Kyoske> ok
[02:08] <Kyoske> amphi
[02:08] <kubus> zack_, hurm. one second i watch on my pc.
[02:09] <Kyoske> it is chrcking all the cd-rom crap now
[02:09] <Kyoske> scanning*
[02:09] <darkelf> which reminds me, I'm in the wrong channel ;)
[02:09] <darkelf> later folks
[02:09] <amphi> Kyoske: do you get a shell when you do alt-f2?
[02:09] <Flannel> amphi: he's installing currently.
[02:09] <Kyoske> well i cant now
[02:09] <nickrud> SAM_theman, why are you compling alsa? the same version you're compiling is already in breezy
[02:09] <Kyoske> i've already started the scanning proceess
[02:10] <wims> Kyoshe you should be able to get a shell by typing rescue at the propmpt where you get the ubuntu logo
[02:10] <Kyoske> i've clicked enter and im on the go
[02:10] <Kyoske> wims a little too late for that
[02:10] <wims> Kyoske,  from the shell it might be possible to install grub again
[02:10] <Kyoske> im at the part where it says hostname enter
[02:10] <Kyoske> what is the point of that?
[02:10] <Kyoske> i've seen it several times but i dont understand why it is there
[02:10] <wims> the boot loader makes your computer boot
[02:11] <wims> makes it possible to choose either windows or linux
[02:11] <Kyoske> wims are u helping me or getting me more confused
[02:11] <Kyoske> cuz right now
[02:11] <Kyoske> i cant get to my windows
[02:12] <Kyoske> and i havent even got to linux yet
[02:12] <Xbox_guru> hello, how do I install Mozilla thunderbird from the tar.gz file
[02:12] <Xbox_guru> I already extracted the files
[02:12] <Kyoske> ok
[02:12] <Xbox_guru> I just need to know how to install it
[02:12] <Kyoske> help crap i got to a shell
[02:12] <Kyoske> plz help me out here
[02:12] <NoUse> !tell Xbox_guru about tb1.5
[02:12] <wims> Kyoske, didn't your computer freeze on linux install? if so i think it might be possible to at least be able to get into windows by installing grub
[02:12] <nickrud> SAM_theman, does lsmod | grep snd_pcm_oss have any output?
[02:12] <Kyoske> no
[02:13] <Kyoske> nothing froze?!?
[02:13] <Kyoske> who is this guy wims?
[02:13] <Kyoske> everything he says isnt helping me at all
[02:13] <wims> Kyoske,  well never mind, i guess i'm confusing you with someone else
[02:13] <NoUse> Kyoske do you get any kind of menu when the computer starts?
[02:13] <und3rtug4> Xbox_guru: ./configure or some crap like that, just read the README file or crawl the web ;)
[02:13] <Kyoske> yes
[02:14] <Kyoske> it has this wierd little symbol
[02:14] <Kyoske> nouse, and in about 5 seconds of pressing enter
[02:14] <kubus> zack_, i dont find the test file ive downloaded with lynx oO i dont understand that...
[02:14] <Kyoske> it askes me for a proper boot device
[02:14] <zack_> kubus, hehe interesting
[02:14] <Kyoske> and keeps repearting over and over
[02:14] <kubus> zack_, yes it is hehe
[02:15] <NoUse> Kyoske sounds like a messed up boot sector
[02:15] <Kyoske> right now i just want to get to windows
[02:15] <Kyoske> but it wont let me
[02:15] <Kyoske> ok nouse
[02:15] <amphi> Kyoske: you need to reinstall the bootloader
[02:15] <Kyoske> can u help me while im inside the shell
[02:15] <NoUse> Kyoske you have a windows CD handy?
[02:15] <Kyoske> shayt!
[02:15] <squidgy> Hi.  Video playback under totem is displaying the wrong colors.  Anyone have a clue how to fix this?  If not, does anyone have a suggestion on where I should ask?
[02:15] <Kyoske> is all my stuff destroyed?
[02:15] <amphi> Kyoske: do what wims said, type rescue at the boot: prompt
[02:16] <Kyoske> i have no f-ing cle what prompt means
[02:16] <amphi> Kyoske: no, your stuff should all be still there
[02:16] <Kyoske> clue*
[02:16] <Kyoske> thats relief -_-;;
[02:16] <amphi> must... not... pick... up... bat... ;)
[02:16] <Kyoske> just plz help me
[02:16] <Kyoske> im in reall need of help and not judgement of my noobishness
[02:17] <amphi> Kyoske: when you boot off a cd, you get a little prompt 'boot:', right?
[02:17] <nickrud> Kyoske, you need to really slow down, read what people say
[02:17] <kubus> zack_, this file doesnt exist *lol*
[02:17] <Kyoske> yes
[02:17] <Kyoske> it says boot:
[02:17] <amphi> Kyoske: so, when you get that, try typing rescue and hit enter
[02:17] <Who_> Kyoske: that is the 'boot prompt'
[02:17] <Kyoske> and that is when i either [enter]  or type rescue
[02:17] <Kyoske> ok thank you
[02:17] <Kyoske> i just need people to work with me here
[02:18] <Kyoske> but listen
[02:18] <kubus> zack_, you cant use nvidia-glx drivers?
[02:18] <Who_> Kyoske: we all seem to be doing that!
[02:18] <Kyoske> im in a shell right now
[02:18] <zack_> kubus, well then this is very interesting
[02:18] <Kyoske> not rescue
[02:18] <Kyoske> but regular install
[02:18] <whiter> kyoske what are you trying to do
[02:18] <amphi> Kyoske: what does echo #SHELL say?
[02:18] <Kyoske> can i restart to go back to the boot prompt
[02:18] <kubus> zack_, yes i dont understand that...
[02:18] <Kyoske> um..
[02:18] <zack_> kubus, i dont know, the ones ubuntu installed wouldnt let me view x at all
[02:18] <Kyoske> i see
[02:18] <amphi> Kyoske: sorry, echo $SHELL
[02:18] <Who_> okay, well, what happened when you type rescue?
[02:18] <Kyoske> busybox v1.00\
[02:19] <amphi> Kyoske: cool
[02:19] <Kyoske> cool? =\
[02:19] <zack_> kubus, well not at all becuase i could see all these random color but there was no image i could make out
[02:19] <Kyoske> so u have an idea of where im at?
[02:19] <amphi> Kyoske: you really are in a shell now ;)
[02:19] <Kyoske> ok
[02:19] <Kyoske> thats good
[02:19] <Kyoske> i think
[02:19] <Kyoske> what do i do next
[02:19] <amphi> Kyoske: what partition did you install ubuntu on?
[02:19] <Kyoske> crap
[02:19] <Kyoske> i dont really friggin now
[02:19] <amphi> Kyoske: ?
[02:20] <kubus> zack_, ok for GForce 440 and greater you can use nvidia-glx. This driver have 3D acceleration and i play doom3 on it ;)
[02:20] <Kyoske> i just let it do itself manually
[02:20] <amphi> Kyoske: how many harddisks do you have?
[02:20] <Kyoske> i only have C:
[02:20] <zack_> kubus, ok so what do i do now then?
[02:20] <Kyoske> ooooooo
[02:20] <Kyoske> thats what u mean
[02:20] <Kyoske> srry
[02:20] <Kyoske> i put it on C:
[02:20] <kubus> zack_, ok go in the commandline and type: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:20] <zack_> ok
[02:20] <amphi> Kyoske: ok; do fdisk -l /dev/hda and pastebin it
[02:21] <Kyoske> what =0
[02:21] <Kyoske> type in
[02:21] <Kyoske> "fdisk -1
[02:21] <amphi> Kyoske: no
[02:21] <AngryElf> dvdrip question: anyone ripped a lot of dvds with it and know a minimum setting for xvid that gives dvd quality?
[02:21] <kubus> zack_, then type: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:21] <Kyoske> no then i have no idea what to do
[02:21] <kubus> zack_, thats all.
[02:21] <und3rtug4> Hi there, anyone using/familiar with sqwebmail? My is given me an internal error, and just dont what it is, after 3 days (thats way to much time :S )
[02:21] <AngryElf> minimum manual bpp setting?
[02:22] <zack_> kubus, once its done downloading i can just start gnome?
[02:22] <pepperpot> I wrote a document in emacs with auto-fill-mode. How do I remove the linefeeds so that I can import it in openoffice?
[02:22] <Kyoske> how doi do fdisk -1 /dev/hda and pastebin it
[02:22] <wims> Kyoske,  just type fdisk -l /dev/hda
[02:23] <Kyoske> but amphi said no
[02:23] <kubus> zack_, Xorg have a default driver named "nv" for nvidia cards. If you have any problems to start X you can alway open your X config file and cance the driver under the section device to this.
[02:23] <amphi> Kyoske: do 'mkdir mnt' without quotes
[02:23] <wims> then you type the output into pastebin and gives us the URL to that pastebin entry
[02:23] <wims> so we can try to find out which partition you installed linux on
[02:23] <Kyoske> wait what do i do
[02:23] <Kyoske> wims or amhpi
[02:23] <kubus> zack_, normaly, after you have installed nvidia-glx and enabled it, you can start gnome and X without problems.
[02:23] <Xbox_guru> how do I add thunderbird to my applications list?
[02:23] <amphi> wims: I'm guessing hda2 - if it's swap, it won't mount
[02:23] <zack_> kubus, i love you
[02:24] <Kyoske> cuz i already typed in fdisk -1 /dev/hda
[02:24] <dli> where are the file for the gnome menu entry "Root Terminal (gksu)"?
[02:24] <amphi> Kyoske: it should be a lowercase L
[02:24] <amphi> Kyoske: not 1
[02:24] <kubus> zack_, oh nice, no problem :)
[02:24] <Kyoske> shoot
[02:24] <zack_> kubus, i thank you so much!!!!!!!
[02:24] <james_xxx> good evening/guten abend
[02:24] <Kyoske> kks rry
[02:25] <Kyoske> its retyped
[02:25] <zack_> kubus, how can i add higher resolutions?
[02:25] <Kyoske> and stuff started a flowwin
[02:25] <amphi> Kyoske: you'll probably see three partitions, one windows, one linux, and one linux swap - what is the linux one called? hda?
[02:25] <amphi> Kyoske: the windows one should hda1
[02:25] <james_xxx> i was wondering if someone could help me with an install of firefox 1.5
[02:25] <kubus> zack_, you need your correct Monitor spezifications, vertical and horizontal refreshrate
[02:26] <kubus> zack_, then close x and open the X config tool with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:26] <Kyoske> no i have many partitions
[02:26] <Kyoske> and all these same files dev/hda1
[02:26] <Kyoske> dev/hda2
[02:26] <Kyoske> dev/hda3
[02:26] <gnosticapex> Xbox_Guru: applications->add applications->internet->more programs-> check Thunderbird and it'll add it to your applications list, I think >.>
[02:26] <Kyoske> dev/hda5
[02:26] <amphi> Kyoske: which is the linux one?
[02:26] <squidgy> james_xxx: You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:26] <Kyoske> dev/hda2
[02:26] <Kyoske> dev/hda5 is the swap though
[02:27] <zack_> kubus, how do i leave x?
[02:27] <Kyoske> dev/hda2  is the linux
[02:27] <james_xxx> squidgy, i am at that page and don't understand the directions lol
[02:27] <kubus> zack_, if you should chooce the driver, take "nvidia" not "nv". "nv" iss only a fallback driver, nvidia iss the nvidia-glx driver with 3D.
[02:27] <amphi> Kyoske: what is hda3 then?
[02:27] <Kyoske> extended
[02:27] <james_xxx> squidgy,  it says "#
[02:27] <james_xxx> #
[02:27] <james_xxx> Download firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz from [WWW]  http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ , and change to the directory you downloaded it to.
[02:27] <james_xxx> "
[02:27] <amphi> Kyoske: ok - did you do 'mkdir mnt'? if not, do it
[02:28] <james_xxx> how do i "change  to the directory i downloaded it to"?
[02:28] <dli> !ff1.5
[02:28] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:28] <amphi> Kyoske: done?
[02:28] <james_> can someone help me with getting my dvd player to work
[02:28] <Kyoske> mkdir mnt dent do anything
[02:28] <kubus> zack_, other points are per default ok, dont chance anything. later they ask for Monitor details, there you choose "advanced" and type in your correct refresh rates.
[02:28] <Who_> james_ - what is the problem?
[02:28] <Kyoske> i typed it in
[02:28] <Kyoske> entered it
[02:28] <james_> i loaded the lib and codecs
[02:28] <Kyoske> but nothing happened
[02:28] <james_> but my player still wont play
[02:28] <amphi> Kyoske: so cd mnt
[02:28] <james_> i load the dvd and nothing
[02:28] <james_> so i am lost
[02:28] <gnosticapex> xbox_guru: get it added? o.0
[02:29] <kubus> zack_, thats all. You can start and stop your gdm with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" or "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[02:29] <squidgy> james_xxx:  you can do this from within nautilus or from the terminal.
[02:29] <james_> i am still new to linux but i do know how to read wiki's
[02:29] <amphi> Kyoske: type 'cd mnt' without quotes, and hit enter
[02:29] <gnosticapex> xbox_guru: not sure if thats what you were asking :P
[02:29] <Who_> okiedokie :)
[02:29] <squidgy> james_xxx:  what did you use to download it?
[02:29] <Kyoske> ok
[02:29] <Kyoske> i entered it
[02:29] <amphi> Kyoske: we're nearly there ;)
[02:29] <james_> Who_: so can you help me
[02:29] <Kyoske> yes!
[02:29] <kubus> zack_, oh have you a tft monitor?
[02:29] <amphi> Kyoske: what does pwd say?
[02:29] <james_xxx> squidgy, i am not sure what nautilus is, and i don't know how to do it from the terminal. i downloaded the firefox file to my desktop
[02:29] <Kyoske> what i think ur talking about
[02:29] <Kyoske> it says
[02:29] <squidgy> james_xxx:  do you have a windows background?
[02:29] <james_xxx> squidgy, i am newbie to the extreme
[02:30] <Kyoske> "/mnt # "
[02:30] <amphi> james_xxx: you are not alone ;)
[02:30] <Who_> james_ - I hope so,
[02:30] <Kyoske> is that what ur talking about?
[02:30] <james_xxx> squidgy,  i have the KDE desktop if that is what you mean
[02:30] <Kyoske> "/mnt # "
[02:30] <james_> Who_: ok so what do i need to do
[02:30] <amphi> Kyoske: yup, just making sure you're were I think you are ;)
[02:30] <Who_> james_: which wiki page have you already followed?
[02:30] <Kyoske> good good
[02:30] <james_> holdo n i wil get you the link
[02:30] <james_xxx> amphi, it appears so lol
[02:31] <Kyoske> even though i have no idea what is happeneing it feels like progress, and i thank you for it
[02:31] <Who_> james_: also, are we talking Breezy or Dapper?
[02:31] <squidgy> james_xxx:  nautilus is the name of the file browser under the gnome desktop, similar to windows explorer.  I don't know what the equivalent is under KDE.
[02:31] <james_> Who_: breezy
[02:31] <james_> Who_: here is the link http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[02:31] <Kyoske> so now all i neeed now is my next guide..
[02:31] <amphi> Kyoske: now's the fun bit :) type 'chroot . /bin/bash' without quotes and hit enter
[02:32] <Mitsurugi> How do you install Java? the whole folder is sitting on my desktop
[02:32] <Kyoske> add the spaces as well?
[02:32] <Xbox_guru> gnosticapex, no i didn't, I even made it the default mail application
[02:32] <Kyoske> what will bin bash do?
[02:32] <squidgy> james_xxx:  at any rate, you downloaded a .tar.gz file, which is a file archive.  You need to extract the files from the archive, which will create a directory.
[02:32] <james_xxx> squidgy, how would i "change to the directory you downloaded it to" in the terminal window?
[02:32] <amphi> Kyoske: exactly as I typed it
[02:32] <Toma-> ubotu: tell Mitsurugi about javadebs
[02:32] <Kyoske> and what will that do?
[02:32] <Xbox_guru> you have to edit the menu
[02:32] <Who_> james: - cool, have you seen that I have tried to set up a conversation with just you so we don't fill the main room with our conversation?
[02:32] <james_xxx> squidgy, ok so now that it is on my desktop, i should just extract it?
[02:33] <Kyoske> crap
[02:33] <Kyoske> it wont execute
[02:33] <gnosticapex> Xbox_Guru: Dunno then, if you used add application it should've added it to your menu under Internet >.> :\
[02:33] <Kyoske> it says there is no such file
[02:33] <Kyoske> or directory
[02:33] <amphi> Kyoske: it will change the root of your filesystem to the root of your ubuntu install, and run the shell (I hope)
[02:33] <gnosticapex> Don't know if theres a command to add to your app menu through terminal
[02:33] <james_xxx> squidgy, i have tried to extract it from  the terminal window, but it tell me that the file does not exist
[02:33] <squidgy> james_xxx:  yes, extract the files from the archive.  They will all be under a single main directory when extracted.
[02:33] <Kyoske> it didnt work though ><
[02:33] <amphi> Kyoske: pfft; try just 'chroot .'
[02:34] <squidgy> james_xxx:  the command to change directory is 'cd'.  So, if you wanted to change directory to Desktop, you would type 'cd Desktop' from the prompt.
[02:34] <high-freq> anyone know kernel lines...like turning off apic
[02:34] <amphi> high-freq: noapic
[02:34] <high-freq> ok noapic
[02:34] <amphi> high-freq: and.or nolapic
[02:34] <high-freq> hopefully that works
[02:34] <high-freq> is that same as acpi
[02:34] <T`> guys, i get different resolutions when i start xfce thru gdm vs. startx... anyone know how to solve this?
[02:34] <james_> Who_: r u still there
[02:34] <amphi> high-freq: no
[02:34] <Kyoske> when i type in chroot . it still says no
[02:34] <high-freq> k
[02:34] <Kyoske> file or directory
[02:35] <high-freq> well is there somethin in kernel  for apic?
[02:35] <squidgy> But you can probably extract files without needing a terminal prompt, just by double-clicking the .tar.gz file on the desktop, you will be presented with a user-interface for a file extractor.
[02:35] <Kyoske> >< why is it always me
[02:35] <amphi> Kyoske: what do you get if you type chroot alone?
[02:35] <Kyoske> some
[02:35] <high-freq> nm..i'll just search the kernel for it ;)
[02:35] <Kyoske> text
[02:35] <squidgy> james_xxx:  But you can probably extract files without needing a terminal prompt, just by double-clicking the .tar.gz file on the desktop, you will be presented with a user-interface for a file extractor.
[02:35] <Who_> james_: yea, just looking at the link you sent me! I have to keep my eye on an ebay auction for the next 8 minutes too :P
[02:35] <Kyoske> here lemme tell u what it says
[02:35] <amphi> Kyoske: the universe is a consoiracy to annoy you
[02:35] <amphi> Kyoske: please do ;)
[02:35] <james_> Who_: that is cool
[02:35] <Kyoske> it tells me
[02:35] <Kyoske> the same information like
[02:35] <james_> would it be easier to just to a remote link to me and jus tlet you check my cfg files
[02:35] <Kyoske> busybox ver1.00
[02:36] <Kyoske> multi cell binary
[02:36] <Who_> james_: you followed that to the letter, or just installed some packages?
[02:36] <james_xxx> squidgy, yes, i have done that now, and i have the extracted file on my desktop... what next?
[02:36] <james_> to the letter
[02:36] <Kyoske> then it says
[02:36] <amphi> Kyoske: just the error message
[02:36] <Kyoske> Usage: chroot newroot (commands..)
[02:36] <squidgy> james_xxx:  sorry.  I didn't realize that the wiki page gives instructions for extracting the files.  SO, you will need a terminal prompt after all.
[02:37] <iiiears> Hello! - What file controls the keyboard shortcuts modifier app?
[02:37] <Kyoske> =(
[02:37] <james_xxx> squidgy,  yikes
[02:37] <Who_> james_: could you look at this too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b
[02:37] <Kyoske> so what now amphi?
[02:37] <amphi> Kyoske: and what happens if you do 'chroot .' ?
[02:37] <james_> I am gona look at it now
[02:37] <squidgy> james_xxx:  So, once you open the terminal, type 'cd Desktop'.  From there, you can follow the next step in the wiki, which is to type 'sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz'
[02:37] <james_> what are you watching on ebay
[02:37] <james_xxx> squidgy,  i just got stuck in the instructions where it says to "change to the directory you downloaded it to"
[02:37] <Kyoske> it says i cannot execute
[02:38] <NoUse> amphi I don't think you chroot into your cwd
[02:38] <squidgy> james_xxx:  are you able to get a terminal, where you can type commands?
[02:38] <amphi> NoUse: 'real' chroot can, perhaps busybox can't?
[02:38] <djtansey> has anyone here installed chinese input support in ubuntu? i'm having the damndest time (with dapper)
[02:38] <Kyoske> then what can i do to get anything done?
[02:38] <amphi> Kyoske: try 'cd ..' and then 'chroot mnt'
[02:38] <NoUse> Kyoske if you're immediate goal is getting into Windows, you can just boot off your windows CD and when it says "press any key to boot from hard drive" press a key and it will find Windows and boot it
[02:38] <james_xxx> squidgy, yes, your cd Desktop command is what i was looking for, thank you!
[02:38] <Kyoske> wait what?
[02:38] <Who_> james_: Digital camera (probably best to keep mainly to support if we're gonna stay in the main room)
[02:38] <iiiears> Hi crimsun :)  (I owe you a huge thank you for helping me through the transition to Ubuntu - THANK YOU> )
[02:38] <Kyoske> cd ..
[02:39] <Kyoske> then chroot mnt
[02:39] <amphi> Kyoske: yup
[02:39] <james_> Who_: I looked at that link
[02:39] <Kyoske> or all at once?
[02:39] <crimsun> iiiears: don't mention it :-)
[02:39] <gnosticapex> xbox_guru: ill search around and see if I can find anything to help you :o
[02:39] <james_> and i have the newest version
[02:39] <amphi> Kyoske: cd .. [enter]  then chroot mnt [enter] 
[02:39] <Kyoske> still cant execute ><
[02:39] <Kyoske> ><
[02:39] <Kyoske> ><
[02:39] <rpedro_> !gamin
[02:39] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rpedro_
[02:39] <NoUse> Kyoske did you install Ubuntu for 64bit OSs?
[02:40] <Kyoske> i have no clue
[02:40] <NoUse> Kyoske well which CD did you download?
[02:40] <amphi> Kyoske: that's the exact error?
[02:40] <squidgy> james_xxx:  so now you should be able to type 'sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz' and proceed with the wiki instructions.  The 'tar' command with the -z option is how you extract files from a .tar.gz file.
[02:40] <Kyoske> the one where u download of the ubuntu site
[02:40] <Kyoske> then i burned the image on to a cd
[02:40] <NoUse> Kyoske there are 3 on that site
[02:40] <james_> Who_: still working with the link you sent me
[02:40] <NoUse> Kyoske x86, 64bit and PPC
[02:40] <james_> I will let you know how it pans out
[02:40] <amphi> Kyoske: what was the _exact_ error message?
[02:41] <Who_> james_: I guess you are tring some off the things the wiki pages suggest...
[02:41] <iiiears> Use a bittorent to grab the iso if you can. :)
[02:41] <Kyoske> i dont know nouse
[02:41] <james_xxx> squidgy, i think i am getting it now
[02:41] <Kyoske> amphi it says
[02:41] <SAM_theman> ho ho i am installing steam right now
[02:41] <amphi> Kyoske: just the message, no preamble ;)
[02:41] <Kyoske> cannot execute /bin/sh
[02:41] <iiiears> Steam on Ubuntu - Wow
[02:41] <Kyoske> no such file or directory
[02:42] <amphi> Kyoske: ok; now try 'chroot mnt /bin/bash' and press enter
[02:42] <Kyoske> thats what it says
[02:42] <Who_> james_: Generally, I would look for support on the Ubuntu Wiki before going elsewhere...
[02:42] <james_> Who_: also i am using totem player for the plater
[02:42] <NoUse> amphi something is wrong, /bin/sh should be there, I don't think mnt is mounted properly
[02:42] <Kyoske> nothin
[02:42] <hok> how to install a new distro in ubuntu
[02:42] <Kyoske> same error message
[02:42] <Kyoske> except this time
[02:42] <Who_> james_: cool, do you know whether it is totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[02:42] <amphi> NoUse: yeah, it should be a symlink to /bin/bash
[02:42] <Kyoske> instead of /bin/sh it said /bin/bash
[02:42] <NoUse> Kyoske do 'ls mnt'
[02:43] <djtansey> anyone here use chinese input in dapper?
[02:43] <Who_> hok: is that a question for us?
[02:43] <Kyoske> ok
[02:43] <james_> ahhh nope I do not know it is the one that comes with ubuntu
[02:43] <Kyoske> but what did that do?
[02:43] <amphi> Kyoske: what indeed?
[02:43] <iiiears> !scim
[02:43] <NoUse> Kyoske did it output anything?
[02:43] <ubotu> hmm... scim is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[02:43] <Kyoske> nothign
[02:43] <Kyoske> ls mnt
[02:43] <amphi> NoUse: ;)
[02:43] <Kyoske> nothing happened
[02:43] <james_xxx> squidgy, awsome! i have firefox 1.5 up and running now.... now you can help me get my linksys wireless working! LOL
[02:43] <Who_> james_:okay, that would be totem-gstreamer, if my memory serves me correctly
[02:43] <james_xxx> just kidding
[02:43] <kbrooks> Kyoske: ?
[02:44] <Kyoske> kbrookes: what?
[02:44] <kbrooks> Kyoske: ls mnt should output something
[02:44] <james_> Who_: ok it still is not running right
[02:44] <richiefrich> amphi, they say i cant but i saw a video that they booted Mac OSX :(
[02:44] <Kyoske> ls mnt didnt do anything
[02:44] <squidgy> james_xxx:  actually, I might be able to help.  I have a linksys WRT54G wireless router myself.
[02:44] <james_> It wont even play
[02:44] <amphi> Kyoske: does mount show /dev/hda2 mounted on /mnt? just type 'mount' and hit enter
[02:44] <kbrooks> Kyoske: did it even say anything?
[02:44] <james_xxx> squidgy, woa... maybe you could help, then
[02:44] <Kyoske> no
[02:44] <Kyoske> it just went down a line
[02:44] <iiiears> Kyoske - "mount" to list partitions used?
[02:44] <Who_> james_: so nbow you have followed the steps in the wiki and you don't get the dvd to play?
[02:44] <james_xxx> squidgy, i have killed myself trying to get thins thing to work
[02:44] <james_> correct
[02:45] <amphi> Kyoske: please use nicks so we know what/who you're answering
[02:45] <Who_> james_:can you describe what happens, do you get any error messages?
[02:45] <james_> nope no error message I open totem and then click play jarhead and it just wont play
[02:45] <Kyoske> ok ok
[02:45] <Kyoske> amphi: ok
[02:45] <james_> I think something is loaded wrong and I am not sure
[02:46] <dmbt>  im having  large problem with the ubuntu sources
[02:46] <amphi> Kyoske: does mount show /dev/hda2 mounted?
[02:46] <dmbt> drivers/built-in.o:(.bss+0x13874): multiple definition of `debug'
[02:46] <dmbt> arch/i386/kernel/built-in.o:: first defined here
[02:46] <james_xxx> squidgy,  what i would really like to get to work is a linksys usb network adapter... WUSB54GS
[02:46] <dmbt> drivers/built-in.o: In function `dump_stack':
[02:46] <dmbt> : multiple definition of `dump_stack'
[02:46] <dmbt> compile error
[02:46] <kbrooks> Kyoske: type "mount". what does it say for /dev/hda2 ?
[02:46] <james_> i have the two codecs that i am supposed to have from that other page. so i am lost
[02:46] <Who_> james_: it shouldn't be necessary on Ubuntu, but have you tried restarting since you did all the things listed?
[02:46] <dmbt> anyone know how to fix?
[02:46] <kbrooks> dmbt: DO, NOT PASTE
[02:46] <high-freq> is thre a turn on for pcmcia slot?
[02:46] <amphi> Kyoske: type 'mount' and press enter, I beseech you ;)
[02:46] <high-freq> errr....to turn it on or somethin?
[02:46] <james_> the only thing i can think of is to do a remote link..let me restart. you gona be here when i get back
[02:46] <Kyoske> amphi: it said nothing about /dev/hda2
[02:46] <high-freq> or i just slap in card and its on...if i load module
[02:46] <squidgy> james_xxx:  unfortunately, that's beyond my experience too.  I am little more than a newbie myself.
[02:47] <kbrooks> Kyoske: mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[02:47] <amphi> Kyoske: ok, do 'mount /dev/hda2 mnt'
[02:47] <Who_> james_: I may well restart into breezy(I'm on Dapper now) so I can give you better advice :)
[02:47] <Who_> james_:see you in 5 minutes :)
[02:47] <Kyoske> amphi: kbrooks has a / on the mnt
[02:47] <james_xxx> squidgy, ok.... you were a big help with firefox
[02:47] <james_> do you want me AIM or Yahoo name
[02:47] <kbrooks> Kyoske: that's ok. you're in /
[02:47] <amphi> Kyoske: and then try 'chroot mnt /bin/bash' again
[02:47] <james_> so you can get in contact with me
[02:47] <iiiears> Hi kbrooks! - Thanks for your help with Ubuntu. :)
[02:48] <Who_> james_:neither is great - are you using xchat - we could just have a private chat on IRC
[02:48] <kbrooks> iiiears: how did i help? :-)
[02:48] <squidgy> james_xxx:  No problem.  Good luck with your wireless.
[02:48] <james_> yes i am useing xchat
[02:48] <iiiears> You answered A LOT of questions. - Glad you are here.
[02:48] <james_> I will be useing this username (w1jrm)
[02:48] <Who_> James_:can you see that I have started a private conversation (for me it is on the left hand side)
[02:48] <Kyoske> amphi: hold the phone here
[02:48] <amphi> phone?
[02:48] <DarkAura> where is gcc on ubuntu??!!
[02:49] <DarkAura> hehe
[02:49] <james_> i dont see it
[02:49] <kbrooks> DarkAura:
[02:49] <amphi> DarkAura: /usr/bin
[02:49] <kbrooks> !build-essential
[02:49] <ubotu> it has been said that build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[02:49] <Kyoske> amphi: i did your way without the "/" and nothing happened, then i did kbrooks way, and some text popped up
[02:49] <Who_> okay, it's probbably different on Dapper! see you son with new username :)
[02:49] <kbrooks> Kyoske: what did it say?
[02:49] <iiiears> Darkaura - build-essential should give you it.
[02:49] <DarkAura> i see - ty both
[02:49] <amphi> Kyoske: if things work, they say nothing
[02:50] <james_> ok be rightback
[02:50] <Kyoske> kbrooks: it said couldnt do it because it device or resourse was busy
[02:50] <Who_> sory, see you soon
[02:50] <Blake79> Hey!  I just installed the CD and followed instructions.  My hda1 is saying i don't have rights to open?
[02:50] <iiiears> Darkaura - building/compiling a kernel or do you need an IDE also? anjuta is a decent IDE
[02:50] <DarkAura> is there any other packages on the cd i can install?
[02:50] <Blake79> I want to bring both HD's as repositories?
[02:50] <Kyoske> amphi: nothing is working well
[02:50] <amphi> Kyoske: now 'ls mnt' should show you files and directories
[02:50] <kbrooks> amphi: don't assume
[02:50] <DarkAura> just compiling some source
[02:50] <amphi> kbrooks: ;)
[02:50] <Kyoske> amphi: should i add some "/"?
[02:51] <Kyoske> WOOT
[02:51] <kbrooks> amphi: you should have stopped when Kyoske erported the error
[02:51] <kbrooks> Kyoske: what? :-)
[02:51] <Kyoske> amphi: text appeared
[02:51] <kbrooks> Kyoske: what text?
[02:51] <Kyoske> BIN, BOOT CDROM, AND DEV
[02:51] <Kyoske> boot, cdrom*
[02:51] <Blake79> how do i gain access to hard drive from OS?  ask ubotu?
[02:51] <Kyoske> and then more text after all those
[02:52] <Kyoske> etc, home, blah blah blah
[02:52] <hok> see dum yat go yam dak ngo la
[02:52] <Kyoske> amphi:
[02:52] <Kyoske> amphi: what is to be done now?
[02:52] <kbrooks> Blake79:
[02:52] <kbrooks> !fstab
[02:52] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[02:52] <hok> suem la
[02:53] <Kyoske> amphi: hello =\
[02:53] <kbrooks> amphi_: ping
[02:53] <Kyoske> kbrooks: wat do i do next?
[02:53] <Blake79> paste this into terminal?
[02:53] <kbrooks> Kyoske: what was your original problem in the first place
[02:53] <iiiears> Blake - there is a nice bash script out there to edit the fstab file auto-magically. "diskmounter" or "winmac_fstab" same script different names.  written by Seveas
[02:54] <Kyoske> i couldnt start windows after installing ubuntu
[02:54] <kbrooks> iiiears: which !fstab linked to
[02:54] <Kyoske> kbrooks: i couldnt start windows after installing ubuntu
[02:54] <iiiears> (blush) - erm, Okay
[02:54] <Blake79> kbrooks, it is on my desktop, it says i don't have sufficient rights?
[02:54] <kbrooks> Kyoske: well, you will be able to. now type "chroot . /bin/bash"
[02:54] <amphi> kbrooks: rural dialup fell over ;)
[02:54] <Kyoske> kk
[02:54] <Kyoske> that will work?
[02:54] <kbrooks> Kyoske: but first cd to mnt
[02:55] <kbrooks> "cd mnt"
[02:55] <kbrooks> without the quotes
[02:55] <Kyoske> YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:55] <DarkAura> is libncurses available on the cd ?
[02:55] <kbrooks> iiiears: hilight me next time ;)
[02:55] <Kyoske> kbrooks: worked it did!!
[02:55] <patch> do Somebody know how activated the win key ?
[02:55] <Who_> wow, Kyoske, that is good to see :)
[02:55] <iiiears> heh - will do.
[02:55] <Kyoske> amphi: it working
[02:55] <Kyoske> well
[02:55] <crimsun> DarkAura: do you mean libncurses5-dev?
[02:55] <Kyoske> not installing
[02:56] <Kyoske> but what do i do next?@?
[02:56] <iiiears> This is the best channel on the 'Net
[02:56] <Blake79> are there any other help channels for new users?
[02:56] <amphi> Kyoske: now to install the bootloader; try 'grub-install /dev/hda'
[02:56] <evilelf> amphi, now I'm flustered as I come from a BSD/Solaris/AIX environment with the linker
[02:56] <Kyoske> amphi: i will try that!!
[02:56] <DarkAura> i dont think so  -- i am getting an error while trying to comp. : configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[02:56] <kbrooks> Blake79: not treally. there is no seperate "newbie" channel for ubuntu
[02:56] <delmar> how come evolution sometimes puts my sent mail in my inbox folder....
[02:57] <amphi> evilelf: flustered?
[02:57] <Kyoske> amphi:  0.0
[02:57] <Blake79> Kbrooks, it is a user rights issue to access my HD, but i have all the rights?  Is it something on the windows side?
[02:57] <Kyoske> amphi:  Q.Q
[02:57] <timmy_> hi folks
[02:57] <evilelf> amphi, I've checked ldconfig and it did map libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.3.5.so, why in the hell isn't it detecting (on top of adding library directories to ./configure and setting environment variables LDFLAGS/CPPFLAGS) dlopen
[02:57] <amphi> Kyoske: parser failure
[02:57] <Kyoske> amphi:  it doesnt recocgnize grub-install
[02:57] <timmy_> has anyone worked with dapper and a dell 710M
[02:57] <evilelf> amphi, confused
[02:57] <timmy_> I am having troubles with the wifi
[02:57] <kbrooks> Blake79: linux side only. pease use the script linked to in the !fstab factoid
[02:58] <Blake79> i pasted it into terminal?
[02:58] <kbrooks> Blake79: tha is not "using" it. it needs to get onto your system first. :-)
[02:58] <Kyoske> amphi:  it didnt work, was there a typo or somthing?
[02:58] <kbrooks> Kyoske: no...
[02:58] <patch> I can't use the windows key on my keyboard !
[02:58] <kbrooks> Kyoske: show us the error message?
[02:58] <Kyoske> kbrooks: ok
[02:59] <patch> HELP ME !!!
[02:59] <Who_> patch: I am waiting for someone I have promised to help, but I can give you a moment
[02:59] <proconsul> I must say the wifitroubleshootingguide is top notch!
[02:59] <proconsul> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide
[02:59] <Kyoske> bash: grub-install: comman not found
[02:59] <Kyoske> command*
[02:59] <iiiears> Blake79 - The script needs to be marked as "executable" you can use the desktop and modify permissions tab with a right click or chmod +x /path/to/script/diskmounter"
[02:59] <amphi> evilelf: ghod knows - can you not just clobber the check in the configure script? ;
[03:00] <Kyoske> kbrooks: thats what it said
[03:00] <kbrooks> Kyoske: echo $PATH. Does it have "/usr/bin" in there?
[03:00] <patch> Thank's a lot Who_ I'll waiting
[03:00] <Who_> patch: open a terminal and start 'xev' (without the quotes'
[03:00] <Kyoske> tpye in echo $path?
[03:00] <kbrooks> Kyoske: oops, I mean "/sbin"
[03:00] <amphi> Kyoske: try '/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda' perhaps
[03:00] <patch> Who_: ok
[03:01] <evilelf> amphi, it seems fine... note, to answer your earlier question, the behavior is the same... it resolves the symbols it needs
[03:01] <W1JRM> Who_: are you here
[03:01] <evilelf> amphi, and includes them in the object
[03:01] <intelikey> {0..0}
[03:01] <Kyoske> amphi: no its not working
[03:01] <Who_> patch: yes: now activate the 'Event Tester' window
[03:01] <evilelf> amphi, I did... seems fine
[03:01] <amphi> evilelf: that's what I thought, but someone claimed that the entire library was linked in...
[03:01] <Who_> and push your windows key. see if the terminal does anything
[03:01] <Blake79> kbrooks, almost there.  I saved onto desktop as a shell script. but when i ran through Terminal it said no directory found.
[03:02] <evilelf> amphi, I'm building kvirc 3.x (CVS)
[03:02] <joelbryan> hello, anyone know why pessulus isn't included in dapper?
[03:02] <kbrooks> Blake79: ?
[03:02] <patch> Who_ I have a white cube
[03:02] <amphi> evilelf: just for a laugh, how many lines is configure?
[03:02] <Blake79> bash: diskmounter: No such file or directory
[03:02] <evilelf> amphi, about 550 ;)
[03:02] <Kyoske> um
[03:02] <evilelf> let me check
[03:02] <Kyoske> kbrooks: there is no /sbin, there is no /usr/bin
[03:02] <patch> ok I have the Event tester windo "Who_"
[03:02] <kbrooks> Kyoske: ls -l /sbin
[03:02] <Blake79> lol....I thought i had it.    The script you sent me, i saved to hard drive, and then typed in the command through terminal
[03:03] <evilelf> amphi, euh.... 32029 lines ;)
[03:03] <amphi> evilelf: pffft, celestia's is 30079 lines ;)
[03:03] <Who_> patch: yea, you are supposed to, ugly isn't it. Now, can you push the WINDOWS key while that windo is activated (not moving the mouse) and see if the text in the terminal scrolls
[03:03] <amphi> evilelf: ah, that's more like it
[03:03] <evilelf> amphi, I took a wild guess :P
[03:03] <Kyoske> kbrooks: ok that did somthing
[03:03] <intelikey> howto get the windows keys to switch consoles like they are suposed to ?
[03:03] <Kyoske> kbrooks: now do i try it again?
[03:03] <Kyoske> brb bathroom
[03:04] <intelikey> left-win  should send  alt-left  and right-win should send alt-right
[03:04] <Blake79> kbrooks, i'm not dumb, but i feel like it.
[03:04] <evilelf> amphi, I'll keep you posted
[03:04] <kbrooks> Blake79: brb bathroom
[03:04] <W1JRM> Who_: This is james_
[03:04] <iiiears> intelikey - Did the graphical app to modify keyboard shortcuts work?
[03:04] <Kyoske> amphi: ok
[03:04] <Kyoske> amphi: do i try to do /sbin/grub-install again?
[03:05] <MoonRanger> how do you add a usergroup via commandline
[03:05] <patch> Who_: ok I can see meny things so what should I do after that ?
[03:05] <amphi> Kyoske: what happened the last time you tried it?
[03:05] <Who_> patch: The othe rplace to look is in 'System-->Preferences-->Keyboard-->Layout Options (Tab)'
[03:05] <Who_> WLJRM: Hi
[03:05] <intelikey> iiiears what graphical app ?
[03:05] <Kyoske> it siad there was no /sbin directory
[03:05] <intelikey> iiiears console  not terminal
[03:05] <Kyoske> amphi: and there is still no directory
[03:05] <iiiears> Blake79 - ROFL - If they can teach me to use Ubuntu they are patient and knowledeable to teach anyone. :)
[03:05] <patch> ok I'm in keyboard !
[03:06] <Who_> WLJRM: try this - in Xchat go to View-->Layout-->Tree
[03:06] <Who_> WLJRM: and now see if you see my name appear in that list at the side
[03:06] <patch> in layout options Who_
[03:06] <iiiears> intelikey  -ah, okay i was thinking of something else.
[03:06] <amphi> Kyoske: your situation is somewhat opaque - did the original install finish ok?
[03:06] <Kyoske> amphi: i dont know (crys)
[03:06] <Who_> patch: there is a sectrion called ALT/Win key bahaviour
[03:07] <Who_> have a look at that
[03:07] <Blake79> i looked in my system under the etc folder and there is no folder fstab in there at all? is that a problem, or will the script generate it?
[03:07] <Kyoske> amphi: =(
[03:07] <patch> Yes I'm in ! Who_
[03:07] <Kyoske> amphi: i feel like im lost from my computer now...
[03:07] <amphi> Kyoske: if you do 'ls /'do you see sbin?
[03:07] <rafael_> Boa noite!
[03:07] <Kyoske> amphi: yes yes i do
[03:08] <Who_> pathc: I thinkn you probably want 'Super' ismapped to the win keys selected
[03:08] <Kyoske> amphi: i see sbin
[03:08] <amphi> Kyoske: and 'ls /sbin/grub-install' gives what?
[03:08] <intelikey> Blake79 fstab is a file.
[03:08] <Kyoske> let me see
[03:08] <W1JRM> Who_: did you reboot
[03:08] <W1JRM> I still can not get the DVD to play
[03:08] <richiefrich> amphi, u use that ?
[03:09] <amphi> richiefrich: ?
[03:09] <patch> ok I selected "Super is mapped to the Win-keys (Default)" Who_
[03:09] <Kyoske> amphi: it dent do anyhting
[03:09] <Blake79> ok, i see the file.  It is there
[03:09] <iiiears> Blake79 - It is there. easy to miss but it's there.
[03:09] <richiefrich> amphi, i do it manually...   grub-install
[03:09] <intelikey> Blake79 look for /etc/fstab  this way   ls -l /etc/fstab    in the term
[03:09] <amphi> richiefrich: please guide Kyoske through the process ;)
[03:09] <richiefrich> amphi, ok
[03:09] <richiefrich> Kyoske, grub install
[03:09] <Kyoske> richiefrich: i really need some help
[03:09] <W1JRM> Who_: yes your name is there
[03:09] <richiefrich> Kyoske, do these cmds
[03:09] <wims> amphi,  isn't grub-install in /boot ?
[03:09] <Kyoske> richiefrich: ok plz guide me
[03:10] <patch> Who_: how can I know if the win key is function correctly ?
[03:10] <Who_> W1JRM - righty, if you click on t you can talk to m directly
[03:10] <iiiears> Blake79 - Did it get deleted? - hm. - wonder if there is an easy way to generate one automatically.
[03:10] <amphi> Kyoske: what do you mean it showed nothing? it must have given an error, or output 'grub-install'
[03:10] <Blake79> I do see it there.  I see the way i partitioned in the file.  I'm wondering if i can't access HD because of the way i partitioned this drive?
[03:10] <Kyoske> amphi: well yes thats what i mean
[03:10] <richiefrich> Kyoske,   grub    -->   root (hd0,0)    -->      setup (hd0)          -->  quit                 ALL different cmds ..    grub gets u to the =--> grub>
[03:10] <intelikey> wims no grub-install is not in /boot   try /usr/sbin
[03:10] <amphi> Kyoske: arrgggg
[03:10] <richiefrich> Kyoske, do u understand ?
[03:11] <amphi> Kyoske: so do '/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda'
[03:11] <Kyoske> richiefrich: umm each --> means enter right
[03:11] <richiefrich> amphi, i didnt want to step on your toes
[03:11] <Who_> Patch: lol, here's the funny part! I can't tell you cos I don't know what it does. If it causes text in the console that you used to start XEV then you know that the X-server is seeing the key! that is why I startyed with that. If it works then you know.
[03:11] <richiefrich> Kyoske, yes
[03:11] <amphi> Kyoske: or do it richiefrich's way, the result is the same
[03:11] <Who_> pathc: try setting it to be a keyboard shortcut for something and see what it calles the key
[03:11] <amphi> richiefrich: the current toes cry out to be stepped on ;)
[03:11] <Blake79> iiiears, it is not deleted
[03:11] <richiefrich> amphi, i never had any luck with grub-install
[03:12] <richiefrich> amphi, ok, any time i can assist just ask, im in iso many channel's
[03:12] <Kyoske> richiefrich: grub doesnt work
[03:12] <richiefrich> Kyoske, then it's not installed
[03:12] <Who_> W1JRM: try this sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[03:12] <Blake79> ??that is something that did work for me.  :)
[03:12] <patch> Who_: ok Thank's I care this key for compiz that's all
[03:12] <amphi> richiefrich: I can't remember which I used the last time
[03:12] <Kyoske> richiefrich: ur right, nothing is really installed, beside i think ubuntu
[03:12] <iiiears> Blake79 - Ubuntu lets you have read only access to even ntfs drives and read write access to a linux formatted drive. - if you formatted the drive read only by selecting expert install mode i believe you can still edit the fstab file to get read write access.
[03:12] <Who_> patch: ahh, fun :)
[03:13] <amphi> Kyoske: try /sbin/grub
[03:13] <evilelf> amphi, libs are in the right folders, ldconfig reports them to be in the cache, configure script was generated using autotools... 5$ it's autotools
[03:13] <patch> jaja lol
[03:13] <richiefrich> Kyoske, sudo apt-get install grub
[03:13] <patch> Who_ thank's !
[03:13] <Who_> I really ought to start updating my Copmiz blog again!
[03:13] <Jae2> Hey, my athero wireless card was working until I think when I installed ATI display drivers, anyone know what might of caused this and/or how to fix it?
[03:13] <patch> Who_: what is your blog Who_ ?
[03:13] <Who_> compiz.blogspot.com
[03:13] <amphi> evilelf: yeah
[03:13] <Blake79> hmm..Myy primary drive is NTFS (windows XP), what is the appropriate format for Linux.  When i partitioned it didn't like FAT32, (gave me skeleton)
[03:14] <Blake79> Even still, with the NTFS drive, it isn't letting me in at all, not even in view only.
[03:14] <W1JRM> k
[03:14] <wims> Kyoske, if you only want windows to work again you don't really have to install grub, you only have to fix your mbr, which you can do from a dos prompt (windows cd has a rescue system). Type FIXMBR in the dosprompt and the windows boot loader will be installed again and windows will be able too boot. That is if you haven't dmaged the partition somehow
[03:14] <Kyoske> richiefrich: wait do what?
[03:14] <intelikey> Kyoske which program is "ubuntu" exactly ?     :)
[03:14] <relachs> Does Ubuntu support the latest and greatest wifi cards shipped with the Yonah platform?
[03:14] <richiefrich> Kyoske, sudo apt-get install grub   <-- do that install grub then the other one
[03:14] <Who_> patch: It was cool for a month, and then I go so far behiond cos I went on holiday!
[03:14] <Discipulus> what's a good CD burning software?
[03:15] <richiefrich> intelikey, i think he meant the distro
[03:15] <richiefrich> :)
[03:15] <Kyoske> richiefrich: richhie be more decisive
[03:15] <evilelf> amphi, About the person who told you the libs would be included completely, hah, that' kinda defeats the purpose of dynamic linking... and obliviously go against the concept of static linking.
[03:15] <amphi> richiefrich: he's chrooted from a rescue mode cd boot
[03:15] <Kyoske> richiefrich: what do i do first, then enter, then what do i do
[03:15] <Discipulus> I tried using graveman and it worked for a while but it doesn't finish CDs it stops at like 80-90 percent, doesn't get all the songs on there
[03:15] <richiefrich> Kyoske, sudo apt-get install grub
[03:15] <Kyoske> amphi im not in resue
[03:15] <richiefrich> 1st
[03:15] <iiiears> Blake79 - I may have missed something you said before i logged on but, if you make the script executable by changing the permissions with a right click in the gui or chmod +x at the command line you can run it using sh /path/to/your/script/file.sh
[03:15] <richiefrich> Kyoske,   grub    -->   root (hd0,0)    -->      setup (hd0)          -->  quit                 ALL different cmds ..    grub gets u to the =--> grub>
[03:15] <amphi> evilelf: yeah, it seemed ludicrous
[03:15] <richiefrich> 2nd
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> Blue89: ext3
[03:15] <Who_> W1JRM - are you still there?
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> Blue89: (Or any of the other options offered in the installer.)
[03:16] <Blue89> if I run "esport DISPLAY=:2", will that be permanent or will it only apply to this xterm?
[03:16] <duda> can i put diferent images for diferente desktops?
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> Aargh.
[03:16] <amphi> evilelf: I may have misunderstood what they were saying
[03:16] <evilelf> amphi, assumptions are the root of evil... asking for validation of such argument is beyond common freaking sense! :)
[03:16] <Blake79> under disk manager it lets me browse and iiiears that means nothing to me. <shrugs>
[03:16] <richiefrich> Kyoske, do that help ?
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> Blake79: Those two were for you, re filesystem types.
[03:16] <Who_> duda: are yo using compiz?
[03:16] <iiiears> Blake - Make the diskmouter script executable and run it.
[03:16] <Kyoske> richiefrich: no
[03:16] <Kyoske> richiefrich: it said some crap was missing
[03:16] <blank_> rob, are you there man?
[03:16] <richiefrich> Kyoske, sudo apt-get install grub     <-- do that
[03:16] <richiefrich> whats it say ?
[03:17] <Kyoske> richiefrich: unalbe to fetch some archives
[03:17] <evilelf> brb, running off to the convenience store
[03:17] <iiiears> <<- Ay! Ay! ay! here comes that guy with the big ears. - lol
[03:17] <patch> Who_: Thank's a lot It work's form me !
[03:17] <Kyoske> richiefrich: maybe run apt-get uptade
[03:17] <richiefrich> Kyoske, u want to use lilo
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> duda: Not in Gnome currently.
[03:17] <W1JRM> Who_: yes i am
[03:17] <richiefrich> Kyoske, yes do that
[03:17] <Kyoske> richiefrich: lilo?
[03:17] <richiefrich> Kyoske,  apt-get uptade
[03:18] <W1JRM> doing that sudo apt that you told me about
[03:18] <duda> i was using compiz. it just crashed
[03:18] <Who_> W1JRM: cool.
[03:18] <duda> Who_, i waz using
[03:19] <Kyoske> richiefrich: apt-get update dent get me anywhere
[03:19] <Blake79> iiiears, one more time. The diskmounter script, i thought i saved it on my hard drive.  How do i make executable?
[03:19] <Who_> W1JRM: Can you click on my name and type a message to me, or click 'chat' up the top (right) corner
[03:19] <gnosticapex> !pastebin
[03:19] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:19] <richiefrich> Kyoske, grub alternative
[03:19] <intelikey> iiiears in a case like that, it might be more simple to tell them " sh  file.sh "    than trying to get them to chmod it.   just a thought.
[03:19] <Discipulus> what's a good CD burning software?
[03:19] <W1JRM> i did you did not see it
[03:20] <Who_> W1JRM: right, did you try clikcing 'chat'#
[03:20] <W1JRM> i dont see chat #
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> !burners
[03:20] <amphi> Discipulus: cdrecord - many people seem to like k3b
[03:20] <ubotu> [burners]  k3b, nautilus cd burner, gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord, and others.
[03:20] <JordiGH> Ack, any idea why Xchat forwards me to #knoppix when I try to join #debian? I am using Knoppix.
[03:20] <iiiears> Blake79 - No problem :) - right click on it and use the "Permissions" tab to make it an "Executable" file. linux dosen't rely on file extensions as heavily as windows. chmod +x will also modify it's status using the commandline.
[03:22] <Who_> W1JRM: I am not so well versed in IRC - so I don't know what isn't working :) I am looking, but for now we'll just stick here. Any joy with totem-xine?
[03:22] <W1JRM> i am looking now
[03:22] <intelikey> Discipulus they are all good.   i like xcdroast.   some prefer gnome-baker or nautilus-burner    some like k3b     if you are hard core cdrecord.
[03:22] <Discipulus> lol
[03:22] <Discipulus> alright thanks
[03:23] <W1JRM> ok it finished the install so what is next
[03:23] <W1JRM> Who_: brb i have to reboot
[03:23] <W1JRM> to eject the cd rom
[03:23] <W1JRM> so it will mount
[03:23] <W1JRM> br back in 1 min
[03:23] <Who_> W1JRM: okie
[03:24] <intelikey> Discipulus i only mentioned the cli app cdrecord because all the other named are gui frontends to cdrecord  iirc
[03:24] <gnosticapex> Should I worry about http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14151 at all? or is it just a natural thing? like is it going to hinder my ability at all to install apps? I get it all the time, I know it's a repository problem but I don't know a) how to fix it (i've cleared my sources.list twice) or b) what that particular repos even is >.>
[03:25] <amphi> Kyoske: did you try '/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda' ?
[03:25] <iiiears> Discipulus - K3B is almost too powerful. likely to burn a few coasters finding your way around all the diferent iso types and overburn options.
[03:26] <Kyoske> amphi: yes
[03:26] <intelikey> iiiears that's what "dummy" mode is for
[03:26] <Kyoske> amphi: it did not work one bit
[03:27] <amphi> Kyoske: that is not a useful error report
[03:27] <iiiears> intelikey - Hey!, be nice. - lol
[03:27] <Kyoske> amphi: let me get it for u
[03:27] <intelikey> iiiears i was.     ?
[03:28] <Queengambit> exit
[03:28] <Queengambit> exit
[03:28] <Discipulus> intelikey, well I don't really like gnomebaker or Serpentine or nautilus-cd-burner
[03:28] <davemicc> lol
[03:28] <iiiears> intelikey - I know you were. i am just sensitive is all. ;)
[03:28] <amphi> Discipulus: there's bashburn too ;)
[03:28] <Discipulus> Is it powerful?
[03:28] <iiiears> intelikey - glad you are here.
[03:29] <amphi> Discipulus: just a frontend to cdrecord, mkisofs, cdrdao, et al.
[03:29] <awolf> Can I get apt to download in parallel
[03:29] <Kyoske> amphi: bash: /sbin/grub-install: no sourse or directory found
[03:29] <Blake79> lol, it's saved as a text editor file.
[03:30] <Blake79> iiiears, sorry, afk...I think i saved the script incorrecty.
[03:30] <intelikey> Discipulus gtoaster ?
[03:30] <Kyoske> amphi: bash: /sbin/grub-install: no such file or directory
[03:30] <W1JRM> Who_:  I am back
[03:30] <Blake79> nm
[03:30] <Who_> W1JRM: try "/chat Who_"
[03:30] <amphi> Kyoske: ah... does 'ls /boot/grub' show various files with 'stage' in their names?
[03:30] <JordiGH> Anyone remember how to use the at command? I want to schedule a cron job to download some cds at night in a remote server when everyone's home and the network traffic is down. :-)
[03:30] <Who_> W1JRM: with good news?
[03:30] <W1JRM> waiting on it to connect
[03:30] <amphi> Kyoske: bah, just read your corrected message
[03:31] <amphi> Kyoske: same with /sbin/grub ?
[03:31] <iiiears> Blake79 - What console message were printed when you ran it?
[03:31] <intelikey> amphi cdrdao is cdrecord.... it's a hardlink
[03:31] <Who_> W1JRM: yea, this probably isn't worht the time - we'll just talk here  - I'll learn later :)
[03:31] <Blake79> no such file or directory
[03:31] <Jowi> gnosticapex: check out these links that ubotu will give you
[03:32] <Jowi> ubotu: tell gnosticapex about repos
[03:32] <Blake79> bash: diskmounter: no such file or directory
[03:32] <Blake79> it does ask for my password.
[03:32] <W1JRM> ok well i made progress
[03:32] <Kyoske> amphi: nothing is working
[03:32] <W1JRM> new problem
[03:32] <Kyoske> same message
[03:32] <W1JRM> Who_: totem loads up and then goes to blue screen and then shutsdown
[03:33] <iiiears> Blake79 - chmod +x /path/to/filemounter/file.sh THEN sudo sh /path/to/your/diskmounter/file.sh would this command work?
[03:33] <amphi> intelikey: not here
[03:33] <Who_> W1JRM: Oh, that's not cool!
[03:33] <evilelf> I hate autotools
[03:33] <W1JRM> Who_: so does that mean you now know what is the problem
[03:33] <evilelf> I really do
[03:34] <Blake79> i will try it.  First i want to make sure i have the right file saved.  Could you link me the correct script.  That command should work
[03:34] <Who_> W1JRM: Just so you know, if you want to fix that you can just do sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer
[03:34] <W1JRM> ok
[03:34] <intelikey> amphi i agree.  i spoke to soom.  they are both links  but not to the same file    my bad.
[03:34] <iiiears> tell Blake79 about fstab
[03:34] <amphi> evilelf: heh
[03:34] <iiiears> !tell Blake79 about fstab
[03:34] <Who_> W1JRM: but that is less likely to get your DVD playback working.
[03:35] <Blake79> yearh, that's the file i have.
[03:35] <W1JRM> ok so what is the issue bad css file
[03:35] <Blake79> trying that command
[03:35] <Who_> W1JRM: I do not know exactly what the problem is, but I can lead you through some trouble shooting if you have some time and want to try
[03:35] <evilelf> amphi, I've made sure all symlinks are pointed to the latest autotools binaries
[03:35] <W1JRM> sure
[03:35] <W1JRM> i spent 9hours gettingmy wifi working last night useing 5 diff wiki
[03:35] <Blake79> is there anything before /desktop?
[03:35] <amphi> intelikey: well, I'm on debian ATM ;) /usr/bin/cdrecord is script that chooses between cdrecord.mmap and cdrecord.shm according to kernel ver
[03:36] <evilelf> amphi, I'll make a package as soon as I get it working right
[03:36] <Who_> W1JRM: lets's just check you have the file you think you have :)
[03:36] <Who_> W1JRM: sudo dpkg-query -L libdvdcss2
[03:37] <intelikey> amphi hehhe yeah and they are the same file...
[03:37] <jimcooncat> if I'm logged in with ssh, is there a way to beep the internal speaker?
[03:37] <intelikey> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  323508 Apr 12 02:32 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap
[03:37] <intelikey> -rwsr-xr-- 1 root cdrom 323508 Apr 12 02:32 /usr/bin/cdrecord.shm
[03:37] <Who_> W1JRM: /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.8
[03:37] <Who_>  is the essential one
[03:37] <eddiestone> hello, does anybody here has installed tremulous in ubuntu ?
[03:37] <iiiears> Blake79 - Two ways to do it. type the comeplete path in. (HARDCORE risk mis-spellings.) or drag the file to a terminal window and the path with will magically appear. (Thats what i do cuz' i hate to type.)
[03:37] <Who_> W1JRM:stat /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.8
[03:37] <intelikey> one is a hardlink to the other
[03:37] <Who_> W1JRM: just to check it is all OK
[03:38] <Who_> Size: 28736
[03:38] <amphi> intelikey: not here, ls -i: 8390363 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap*  8389776 /usr/bin/cdrecord.shm*
[03:39] <iiiears> Blake79 - in a terminal using the up and down arrows will backtrack through all of the commands used in that session or type a few letters of what you remember typing and press TAB for autocomepletion
[03:39] <Blake79> that worked, but no usable windows/mac partitions found. ?  the hda1 (windows hd) is on my desktop, and it says ignoring /dev/hda1 - already in etc/fstab
[03:39] <W1JRM> Who_: ok just giveme a sec to read thur everything
[03:40] <Who_> W1JRM: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[03:40] <thomasM> hey i need some help with HAL. I need to install a .fdi file for my mp3 player. Anybody know where I install this, or how to make it work?
[03:40] <Who_> W1JRM: just a thought, have you checked another DVD?
[03:40] <thomasM> libdvdcss2 <---
[03:41] <amphi> Kyoske: are you at a loss?
[03:41] <Blake79> i can access the hda1 through diskmanager, but on my desktop icon it is giving me no permisisons.
[03:41] <ahmad> Hello! Does anybody know how to get the GSM 6.10 codec for linux??
[03:41] <W1JRM> /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.8 permission denied
[03:41] <juanca7777> hello everyone, I was wondering which package format has a better compression .deb or .rpm?
[03:42] <evilelf> W1JRM, chmod 755 <filename>
[03:42] <ubuntu> list
[03:42] <iiiears> Blake - Great. - The file has all the commands used to edit and mount or unmount a drive with fstab.  not really surer what happened to your windows drives if there isn't read access now. running the diskmounter.sh didn't give you at least read access?
[03:43] <juanca7777> anyone has an idea? I couldn't find any docs comparing compression between package formats
[03:43] <Blake79> is there anyone else i can ask, (you say it's not on the windows side).  I don't get why under administration it lets me view it, but not an icon on the deskop. It's the same thing
[03:44] <eddiestone> .deb is better
[03:44] <Who_> W1JRM: hmmm... try sudo stat.....
[03:44] <Who_> W1JRM: but - interstingly, I (user) was able to stat it
[03:44] <amphi> juanca7777: debs use gzip, dunno about rpm, probably the same
[03:44] <Who_> when that has worjke
[03:44] <ahmad> Hello! Does anybody know how to get the GSM 6.10 codec for linux??
[03:44] <Who_> W1JRM: When the stat happens can you paste the permissions
[03:44] <eddiestone> for ubuntu at least :)
[03:44] <W1JRM> Who_: no i have not checked another dvd let me try that i am finnishing that stuff you wanted me to
[03:44] <Blake79> umount: only root can unmount /dev/hda1 from /media/hda  Is it the user i created?
[03:44] <W1JRM> yes
[03:44] <juanca7777> eddiestone: what is the criteria?
[03:44] <wims> i just did apt-get dist-upgrade , how can i check which version of Ubuntu i have now ?
[03:44] <thomasM> nobody knows how to install .fdi files for HAL then eh?
[03:45] <amphi> juanca7777: goodness ;)
[03:45] <eddiestone> ubuntu is debian based
[03:45] <thomasM> you have dapper wims.
[03:45] <juanca7777> amphi: rmpcio or something like that
[03:45] <iiiears> Blake79 - I might try running it again. - Will it run without using sudo?   example sh /path/to/diskmounter/file.sh?
[03:45] <wims> thomasM,  nope, breezy
[03:45] <eddiestone> and .deb is the rpm format for debian
[03:45] <iiiears> Blake79 - I might try running it again. - Will it run without using sudo?   example sh /path/to/diskmounter/file.sh
[03:45] <thomasM> breezy, but dist-upgrade brought you up to dapper.
[03:45] <wims> thomasM,  i had hoary before i did dist-upgrade
[03:45] <amphi> juanca7777: I expect they're gzipped too; do file on an rpm, it should tell you
[03:46] <wims> thomasM,  changed my repositories to breezy, shouldn't that have upgraded my os to breezy?
[03:46] <Blake79> my drive is showing mounted, don't thing that's the problem.  It won't let me unmount it either.
[03:46] <amphi> eddiestone: FWIW, deb is not the rpm of anything
[03:46] <Blake79> Says only root can do that
[03:46] <gnosticapex> Jowi: should I be removing the #'s on the deb-src's in that .list you linked me?
[03:46] <juanca7777> eddiestone: :) I know, I just don't know what format is "smaller" :)
[03:46] <W1JRM> Who_: big prob now i am back to not having the decoders
[03:46] <thomasM> wims it seems you already knew the answer to your question. you are at breezy then.
[03:47] <eddiestone> amphi, it's just a way to say
[03:47] <Blake79> should i delete the user i created iiiears?
[03:47] <wims> thomasM,  yeah, well, that's what i'm thinking. I was just wondering if there was some command to confirm it
[03:47] <eddiestone> I hope rpm is smaller
[03:47] <chapium> wims, cat /proc/version
[03:47] <wims> chapium,  thank you
[03:47] <InvisiblePinkUni> is bacula the best available backup solution?
[03:48] <thomasM> system --> About Ubuntu
[03:48] <iiiears> Blake79 - (looks nervously both ways with a lost look.) I missedit. when did you create a new user?
[03:48] <gnosticapex> Jowi: should I be removing the #'s on the deb-src's in that .list you linked me?
[03:48] <juanca7777> eddiestone: really?
[03:48] <W1JRM> Who_: "james@Markwith:~$ stat /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.8
[03:48] <W1JRM>   File: `/usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.8'
[03:48] <W1JRM>   Size: 28736           Blocks: 64         IO Block: 4096   regular file
[03:48] <W1JRM> Device: 301h/769d       Inode: 1044955     Links: 1
[03:48] <W1JRM> Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
[03:48] <W1JRM> Access: 2006-05-16 21:46:28.000000000 -0400
[03:48] <W1JRM> Modify: 2005-11-23 12:10:54.000000000 -0500
[03:48] <thomasM> nice
[03:48] <W1JRM> Change: 2006-05-16 19:37:23.000000000 -0400
[03:48] <thomasM> !pastebin
[03:48] <W1JRM> "
[03:48] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:48] <jman> i downloaded the source for unrarlib. ive got a unrarlib.c and a unrarlib.h file umm do i just gcc filename -o filename for both or... i promise if someone helps me ill remember and never ask this very basic question again :)
[03:48] <gnosticapex> !pastebin
[03:48] <Who_> W1JRM: but totem isn't crashing?
[03:48] <iiiears> tell WIJRM about paste
[03:48] <iiiears> !paste
[03:48] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[03:48] <juanca7777> eddiestone: but .deb is better ;) because of the dependecies being taken care of automatically right ?
[03:49] <eddiestone> juanca7777, for sure
[03:49] <W1JRM> nope
[03:49] <W1JRM> now it says i dont have the decoders
[03:49] <Who_> W1JRM: I would reccomenend the following, cos I need to go to bed but I really don't want to leav you without any usefull help out of this time!
[03:49] <W1JRM> ok
[03:49] <amphi> eddiestone: that's the tool, not the file format
[03:49] <W1JRM> it never crashed till you had me change the totem player the thing it was doing at first is just not playing
[03:49] <W1JRM> so what is it you want for me to do
[03:49] <chapium> jman, i know someone who calls themself jman....
[03:49] <juanca7777> eddiestone: any docs where I can compare the compression gains?
[03:50] <amphi> W1JRM: 644 is fine, that's what it is here, and it works
[03:50] <juanca7777> amphi: any docs where I can compare the compression gains?
[03:50] <gnosticapex> In my sources.list that I got off of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 should I remove the #'s on the deb-src's or leave them? o.0 I added in the us.archive.ubuntu.com, should I not have a # on the deb-src for it?
[03:50] <Blake79> lol..when i installed
[03:50] <jman> chapium: there is only one jman
[03:50] <amphi> juanca7777: not that I'm aware of, I don't know what compression rpm uses
[03:50] <Blake79> it's saying only the root can unmount?
[03:50] <chapium> jman, and is he in muncie?
[03:50] <Blake79> the hda1 is mounted, welcome back to the convo
[03:50] <W1JRM> now it says i have no decoders and i did get the liddvdcss and the other one
[03:51] <Who_> W1JRM: Open synaptic and choose to install totem-gstreamer (yes, do remove totem-xine) and check you have gstreamer0.8-dvd installed. This will set things back to how they were and may help things. We also installed xine-ui, which will have given you another media player, which may be able to play DVDs if totm can't,, it is in the menu and I think you'll be able to use it
[03:51] <jman> chapium: i dont think so *looks around*
[03:51] <amphi> juanca7777: why are you interested, BTW?
[03:51] <evilelf> "Does a brother has to a choke-an-autotool to get a Makefile?"
[03:51] <juanca7777> amphi: cpio
[03:52] <thomasM> pitiful evilelf :l
[03:52] <chapium> jman, www.jman.us
[03:52] <W1JRM> but do i have to reinstall the codecs
[03:52] <iiiears> Blake79 - Okay, The fstab file is the file with power to mount disks. diskmounter.sh has the command syntax for mounting disks
[03:52] <amphi> juanca7777: uncompressed?
[03:52] <gnosticapex> In my sources.list that I got off of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 should I remove the #'s on the deb-src's or leave them? o.0 I added in the us.archive.ubuntu.com, should I not have a # on the deb-src for it?
[03:52] <Who_> W1JRM:(I use totem-cine here an it is rock solid - so I don't know what was going on), yes you do have libdvdcss2 which is what is needed... No, you don't need to reinstall the codecs :)
[03:52] <Blake79> It is mounted
[03:52] <thomasM> gnosticapex patience.
[03:53] <juanca7777> amphi: I just had a problem with the artwiz-cursor package, I had  to extract the files and change some install scripts, formerly I used redhat/fedora, I never did anything the alike
[03:53] <juanca7777> amphi: I just had a problem with the artwiz-cursor package, I had  to extract the files and change some install scripts, formerly I used redhat/fedora, I never did anything the alike
[03:53] <iiiears> Blake79 - i am hoping someone can teach me how to answer your question.
[03:53] <thomasM> ........
[03:53] <Blake79> it just says i don't have permissions needed to access it
[03:53] <Blake79> LOL...What happens if i delete the user ic reated?
[03:53] <W1JRM> ok
[03:53] <evilelf> thomasM, bah... I'm trying to find where the autogen script is borking.... pain in the ass script
[03:53] <juanca7777> amphi: yes, it uses rpm2cpio to extract packages' contents
[03:53] <gnosticapex> thomasM: yeah, just wasn't sure if it got through, having terrible net troubles tonight so I dont know from one second to the next when Im still connected. >_< everything else is booting me off every 5 sec
[03:53] <thomasM> odd.
[03:54] <amphi> juanca7777: to convert the rpm to a cpio archive?
[03:54] <amphi> juanca7777: what does file foo.rpm say?
[03:54] <Who_> W1JRM: and as a final attempt at an inelegant solution, you could try and install and use mplayer (needs a few different packages in synaptic to ensure a UI) - which to me is the least flashy but most solid media player
[03:54] <Blake79> can anyone tell me about user rights??
[03:54] <iiiears> Blake79 - If you have one with admin rights you have all you need. - deleting a user shouldn't - i think - change that.
[03:54] <juanca7777> amphi: I just "adore" the way the deb package format handles dependencies, a dream in fedora
[03:55] <amphi> juanca7777: file foo.deb gives "Debian binary package (format 2.0), uses gzip compression"
[03:55] <Blake79> My user isn't in the admin group, i'm going to log back on with that change..brb
[03:55] <W1JRM> ok
[03:55] <thomasM> APT is pretty snazzy.
[03:55] <W1JRM> i will look at it
[03:55] <Who_> W1JRM: Sorry not to be more helpful. I have a feeling that some of the things the first blog (which I can't chekc now I am on Breezy, could you link again) could hav been a little 'unsavoury' cos noramly it should be as easy as http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[03:55] <juanca7777> amphi: RPM v3 bin i386 redhat-artwork-0.241-1
[03:55] <amphi> juanca7777: that's apt-get, I believe - dpkg behaves like rpm (the tool) in that it fails if dependencies aren't installed
[03:55] <intelikey> Blake79 permissions ?    man chmod    man chown
[03:55] <W1JRM> ok i wll follow that wiki
[03:55] <Blake79> what does 'only root can' ?
[03:56] <Joetheodd> Hey, I'm running the Warty LiveCD.. how can I change my screen resolution (the only one in the list is 600x480)
[03:56] <evilelf> thomasM, I was being sarscastic
[03:56] <juanca7777> amphi: yep, that's dpkg
[03:56] <eddiestone> chmod 777
[03:56] <eddiestone> Blake79, almost everything
[03:56] <watnu> alt+control +
[03:56] <Joetheodd> Blake79: It means you have to be the superuser to do that.
[03:56] <juanca7777> apt-get is a command line front-end to dselect, the control tool using dpkg
[03:56] <iiiears> intelikey - Blake79 IS able to access the drives from CLI but NOT using the icons on the desktop.
[03:56] <Blake79> That may be my problem.  Becuase i created a user during set-up, i am not the superuser?
[03:57] <thomasM> woah i'm zoomed in like 400% :D
[03:57] <Joetheodd> Blake79, prefix any command you try to do with 'sudo '
[03:57] <amphi> juanca7777: my point being that the tool (apt-get) is better, not necessarily the package format; debs may have better dependency info in them too, I don't know about rpm
[03:57] <intelikey> blake is the name of the "super-user" of all linux systems.
[03:57] <intelikey> blake/root
[03:57] <Blake79>  i did and the drive is mounted, when i click on it, it says unnecessary permission.  When i try and unmount, it says only root can
[03:57] <loquitus_of_borg> Ok... this is driving me insane. Why am I getting the following error message when I try to ping out on one of my machines? ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[03:58] <Blake79> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda1"
[03:58] <juanca7777> amphi: rpms do have the info, but it doesn't handle it automatically as in deb-bases systems
[03:58] <chapium> Blake79, ls -l /mnt/hda1
[03:58] <juanca7777> amphi: the main reason why I tried out debian, then ubuntu
[03:58] <juanca7777> amphi: and I will stick to it 'till the end :)
[03:59] <amphi> juanca7777: yeah, the rpm tool behaves like dpkg - but there must be tools that work like apt-get?
[03:59] <watnu> *yawns*
[03:59] <iiiears> Blake79 - Try the diskmounter.sh script with the second of two options offered?
[03:59] <juanca7777> amphi: yep, yum, but they all "suck" concerning dependencies management
[03:59] <intelikey> Blake79 what does it say in the terminal if you do   'sudo echo blake ' ?
[03:59] <amphi> juanca7777: ah ;)
[03:59] <chapium> woah.. where are hard disks listed?
[04:00] <amphi> juanca7777: debian works for me
[04:00] <HymnToLife> chapium> (sudo) fdisk -l
[04:00] <Blake79> it repeats what i type
[04:00] <juanca7777> amphi: the other day I spent 1 hour to select 50 different packages, I apply and dough the dependencies were not met
[04:00] <juanca7777> amphi: debian works final point :)
[04:01] <chapium> HymnToLife: Ah, i see.. I'm suprised they arent under /mnt.  Learn something new everyday:D
[04:01] <intelikey> Blake79 then it is telling you that you can "sudo"   now.  what does  mount tell you about  /dev/hda1 ?
[04:01] <outlawcrook> i just gave up of getting this to work on my desktop
[04:01] <intelikey> Blake79 just    'mount '
[04:02] <outlawcrook> but seems to be doing good on my laptop
[04:02] <outlawcrook> "
[04:02] <outlawcrook> :)
[04:02] <Blake79> do you wan tot make the disk writable by all users instead? y/n
[04:02] <outlawcrook> but 1 thing how to get a wireless card to work for the internet?
[04:02] <PyChild> hiya people
[04:03] <outlawcrook> anyone got some info for this
[04:03] <Blake79> it shows hda1 when i type mount
[04:03] <outlawcrook> its a linksys wireless -B
[04:03] <intelikey> Blake79 but mounted where ?
[04:04] <intelikey> Blake79 and what fs ?
[04:04] <juanca7777> amphi: well thanks for the info, I'll try another channel
[04:04] <Blake79> /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw)
[04:04] <Blake79> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[04:04] <intelikey> i am gathering information so i can give you a command to put in the term to make it accessable
[04:04] <intelikey> k
[04:05] <Blake79> ok, are you sure it's not the fact that i'm logged on as a user and not the root?
[04:05] <evilelf> amphi, hmmm, have you compiled a recent cvs repo checkout of kvirc?
[04:06] <iiiears> Blake79 - different than the question but, apt-get ntfsprogs will give you write access to a ntfs drive.
[04:06] <intelikey> Blake79 try this  ' sudo mount -o remount,fmask=666,dmask=777 /media/hda1 '
[04:07] <amphi> evilelf: never ;) I use irssi
[04:07] <sadrul> hi. what repo has dbus >= 0.36?
[04:07] <outlawcrook> how to get a wireless card to work for the internet on my IBM T22 laptop
[04:07] <outlawcrook> its a linksys wireless -B
[04:07] <evilelf> amphi, so do I on my colo boxes... just wanted the crypto feature out of it... ;)
[04:07] <evilelf> amphi, screen + irssi
[04:07] <sadrul> and how do i search for specific versions of packages?
[04:08] <amphi> evilelf: made for each other ;)
[04:08] <intelikey> Blake79 and don't write/change any more than absolutely nessarry on the ntfs   you can loose data.   read and copy from is no problem....
[04:08] <Blake79> can i copy that out of the irc?
[04:08] <intelikey> yes
[04:08] <Blake79> Yeah, if i can read, i'll prob leave well enough alone
[04:08] <amphi> outlawcrook: is it supported by linux at all? BTW, I had a T22, I liked it a lot
[04:08] <Blake79> when i right click the option isn't there
[04:08] <evilelf> amphi, screen + make buildworld == life savior over ssh :)
[04:09] <intelikey> highlight  it   then in the term middle click.   (both buttons on a two buton mouse)
[04:09] <iiiears> Blake79 - intelikey is right. patent restrictions have made ntfs write access equal to piracy so the driver to do it isn't for day to day use.
[04:09] <intelikey> button even
[04:10] <ubuntu> obuntumans
[04:11] <wasp_ems> can anyone guide me on how to install a bootsplash screen?
[04:11] <thomasM> yeah that would be cool :D
[04:11] <thomasM> i think it's just a .png hidden somewhere in one of the boot files...
[04:12] <wasp_ems> dont know
[04:12] <Blake79> that gave me a bunch of info intellikey, didn't know what to make of it.
[04:12] <Blake79> I'm going to delete my user and re-log back on and try again
[04:13] <Blake79> i don't have permission to write to the file system??
[04:13] <Blake79> i tried to copy my .sh file from deskop into file system.  Should it allow that?
[04:14] <intelikey> Blake79 i'll give you a line for your fstab that will give you read access on subsecquent boots. if you like.    just edit /etc/fstab and add this line.   '/dev/hda1   /media/hda1  ntfs defaults,ro,fmask=644,dmask=755 0 0 '       you will have to be root to exit that file.  i.e.   " gksudo gedit /etc/fstab "
[04:14] <intelikey> Blake79 no it won't allow any user but root to write in system folders.
[04:14] <Nullified>  03:14:23 up  2:21,  1 user,  load average: 7.40, 7.63, 7.35 <---- Is that load average high
[04:14] <intelikey> Blake79 you should read this link.
[04:14] <intelikey> !sudo
[04:14] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:14] <Blake79> If i delete my user, will i be root?
[04:15] <intelikey> no
[04:15] <sadrul> !dbus
[04:15] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sadrul
[04:15] <intelikey> please read    ^
[04:15] <sadrul> :p
[04:15] <Rhine> Anyone know what is the best format to format a 80Gb drive i would like to use for storage for ubuntu? I have tried extended 2 and 3 but it only lets me see 16 gbs of it
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> !grubsplash
[04:15] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:16] <intelikey> Blake79  if you delete the user account you'll be booting a live cd and asking us to help you add a user account or set a root passwd.....
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> wasp_ems: I think you'll find it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto
[04:16] <Nullified>  03:14:23 up  2:21,  1 user,  load average: 7.40, 7.63, 7.35 <---- Is that load average high
[04:16] <wasp_ems> ok thanx
[04:17] <intelikey> Rhine best is subjective.   ext3 is good  but so are several others
[04:17] <Blake79> lol....i ned to slow down
[04:17] <gnosticapex> thomasM: yeah, just wasn't sure if it got through, having terrible net troubles tonight so I dont know from one second to the next when Im still connected. >_< everything else is booting me off every 5 sec
[04:17] <gnosticapex> woops
[04:17] <Blake79> :)   I'm going to do alot of reading.  In the meantime, how do i copy out of irc, i am going to try and edit in that line
[04:17] <gnosticapex> In my sources.list that I got off of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 should I remove the #'s on the deb-src's or leave them? o.0 I added in the us.archive.ubuntu.com, should I not have a # on the deb-src for it?
[04:17] <gnosticapex> There we go
[04:17] <Rhine> Is there a way to format it so i can use the whole thing becuase when i used extended 3 it only gave me 12.69 gb i would like to use all 80
[04:17] <gnosticapex> stupid up arrows >.>
[04:18] <PORDO> my flash plugin in epiphany doesn't play any sound.  anyone have any ideas?
[04:18] <PORDO> not that i like using flash, but google video uses it instead of embedded theora.
[04:18] <Rhine> In the disk managment it shows partition 1 and then freespace and i cant do anything with that >.<
[04:18] <amphi> Rhine: you perhaps need to repartition the disk
[04:18] <intelikey> Blake79 with the mouse highlight the section you want to copy.   then alt tab to the terminal or editor  and press both mouse buttons togather.
[04:18] <chapium> !restricteFormats
[04:18] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chapium
[04:18] <Rhine> is there a command to do that? Im kinda new to all of this
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> PORDO: You need to use ESD for the sound I believe..  There's a page about that on the wiki as well, for sound/flash.
[04:19] <PORDO> i have esd working fine.
[04:19] <chapium> PORDO: I got i working after using the easyubuntu script
[04:19] <PORDO> hmmm
[04:19] <chapium> errr
[04:19] <chapium> no
[04:19] <amphi> !restrictedformats
[04:19] <ubotu> restrictedformats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:19] <intelikey> Blake79 also of note   page-up  is a good key :)(
[04:20] <PORDO> amphi is that for me?
[04:20] <amphi> PORDO: if you want it ;)
[04:20] <Rhine> !repartition
[04:20] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Rhine
[04:21] <intelikey> page-up   and alt-page-up    in-despensible
[04:21] <laura> Hi you guys
[04:21] <amphi> Rhine: make one or more partitions that use the entire disk; cfdisk is easy to use
[04:21] <pstinghua> :-*
[04:21] <PORDO> i have restricted formats working it seems.  mp3 plays in gstreamer apps.
[04:22] <amphi> Rhine: you can't mkfs the unallocated space
[04:22] <wasp_ems> tonyyarusso: do u know where my menu.lst file is?
[04:22] <PORDO> wasp_ems /boot/grub/
[04:22] <intelikey> amphi why not ?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> wasp_ems: /boot/grub
 Rhine: you can't mkfs the unallocated space <--- i do.
[04:22] <zoe> hello, quick question... i want to log into my computer with vnc, but it is connected to the internet thru a router,  is it possible to do this some way?
[04:22] <wasp_ems> thanx
[04:23] <Rhine> Is there a forum post showing me how to repartition this drive?
[04:23] <chapium> PORDO, copy the contents of "essential codecs package" into /usr/lib/codecs
[04:23] <chapium> pordo, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[04:23] <laura> I'm new to ubuntu and a linux beginner...
[04:23] <intelikey> Rhine cfdisk   is pretty streight forword
[04:23] <laura> how do I change my monitor settings?
[04:24] <intelikey> laura just the rez  or need to reconfigure ?
[04:24] <Rhine> Ok and i want to do it on a different drive (the one without the linux kernel) do i add something at the end becuase i typed in cfdisk and it said something about an error
[04:24] <laura> just the rez
[04:24] <zoe> laura: system:preferences:screenresolution
[04:24] <laura> k thx
[04:25] <Rhine> It said FATAL ERRO: Cannot open disk drive
[04:25] <intelikey> Rhine cfdisk /dev/hd?    where ? is b or c or d
[04:25] <laura> ok,maybe I need to reconfig
[04:25] <l4v4_f10w> hey guys, new time linux user was wonderign if one of you kow the answer to this question
[04:25] <l4v4_f10w> basically if i wanted to vnc onto a computer in a network how will that work
[04:26] <Kyoske> holy crap does anyone know how to help me?
[04:26] <Rhine> intelikey, i dont have b c or d it just says /dev/hda go with that?
[04:27] <Dr34mC0d3r> i have a ubuntu 6.04 - i changed ISP's and now i cant resolve dns. can someone help? I can ping other network resources and router @ 192.168.1.1
[04:27] <Kyral> Kyoske: did you even ask a quesion?
[04:27] <Dr34mC0d3r> just no dns
[04:27] <Kyoske> i have tried to install ubuntu but when it got to the part when it asked me to reboot it
[04:27] <Kyoske> i took out the cd and robooted it, and now i cant get back to my windows
[04:27] <intelikey> laura sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    read all questions and answer correctly.   when it asks about the monitor i sujest you DO NOT select simple.  medium or expert.   it you need to find your monitors refresh rate check http://monitorworld.com
[04:27] <l4v4_f10w> i mean one of my pc's got a static ip and if i was to remote vnc from external what ip do i type
[04:27] <Kyral> Kyoske: and this is a bad thing?
[04:27] <amphi> intelikey: the free space unallocated to any partition?
[04:27] <Kyoske> yes, because now i have nothing to work on
[04:27] <intelikey> Rhine then you only have one hd ?
[04:27] <Kyoske> ubuntu wont start up
[04:27] <laura> thanks a lot
[04:27] <iiiears> crimsun Seveas  Cafuego bob2 "NO SPEAKE ENLISH!" offered by ubotu with a link is a bit rude don't you think?
[04:27] <Kyoske> and neiether will windows
[04:28] <intelikey> amphi yes.
[04:28] <intelikey> amphi it's not common practice tho
[04:28] <Rhine> No i have two one 6gb which has the Ubuntu on it and 80GB that use to have windows
[04:28] <blank_> iiiears, i agree
[04:28] <Kyoske> plz some one help me
[04:28] <Kyoske> >< if any one can
[04:28] <intelikey> Rhine do this in the terminal    sudo fdisk -l      and tell me how many drives show up
[04:29] <thomasM> kyoske make sure your bios is set to boot the correct hard drive.
[04:29] <MooPoo> Does ubuntu come with a central place for configuring hardware like on MacOS or windows!?
[04:29] <Kyoske> thomas: how do i do that?
[04:29] <Mixx> are you kidding me with that PC crap?
[04:29] <l4v4_f10w> kyoske im guessing u install grub huh?
[04:29] <amphi> intelikey: what device would it be accessible as? or just hda+offset ? I've never done that
[04:29] <thomasM> when your computer turns on you press delete or something. depends on your motherboard.
[04:29] <FliesLikeABrick> one
[04:29] <Rhine> hdb1, hdb2, and hdb5, and hda1
[04:29] <Kyoske> lava flow: i cant instal grub, i dont know how
[04:29] <Rhine> hda1 i guess than
[04:30] <l4v4_f10w> you can if you wanted use the recovery console provided with the windows cd to write to the MBR
[04:30] <amphi> Kyoske: you might be better off just to reinstall ubuntu altogether
[04:30] <Blake79> sorry afk.  I used ghsudo to edit fstab, i put the info in, and it own't let me save it
[04:30] <maz> hey
[04:30] <Blake79> gksudo
[04:30] <MooPoo> Does anyone know!?
[04:30] <Kyoske> amphi: how do i do that!?!
[04:30] <intelikey> amphi yes hda    err easiest to put the fs first and the partition at the end of it...  but i don't recommend it.   it's buggy.
[04:30] <Kyoske> how do i do anything
[04:30] <maz> i need some help with wireless card set up
[04:30] <maz> if anyone can help me
[04:30] <maz> i've tried numerous times and had trouple
[04:31] <MooPoo> does ubuntu come with a central place for installing/configuring hardware like on MacOS or windows?
[04:31] <l4v4_f10w> kyoske use the cd that u got for ubuntu and boot
[04:31] <Blake79> (gedit:2421): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:31] <Blake79> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:31] <Blake79> brandon@Linux-Ubuntu:~$
[04:31] <Blake79>  DAMN!! I want this to work
[04:31] <maz> anyone?
[04:31] <intelikey> amphi simple test.  just make an fs on the whole disk.   mke2fs /dev/hd?   if you have a spare disk.
[04:31] <Dr34mC0d3r> maz?
[04:31] <Blake79> it gave me this response from the gksudo edit command
[04:31] <maz> wirless card help
[04:31] <thomasM> yeah /dev/
[04:31] <maz> can't seem to get nidswrapper to work
[04:31] <Dr34mC0d3r> o - no wireless here - sorry
[04:32] <intelikey> Blake79 try sudo gedit   see if it works.
[04:32] <thomasM> blake
[04:32] <thomasM> !paste
[04:32] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:32] <Dr34mC0d3r> maz - google? ubuntu "wireless card" setup "how to"
[04:32] <Rhine> intelikey, i get this when i try that mke2fs: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size
[04:33] <Blake79> that worked..pasting command intelikey
[04:33] <Dr34mC0d3r> maz - what wireless card do you have?
[04:33] <intelikey> Rhine full command you typed please ?
[04:33] <Rhine> mke2fs /dev/hda1
[04:33] <intelikey> you are not root.
[04:33] <Rhine> does it matter that i have the 6gb one as the slave should i switch them around?
[04:33] <intelikey> !root
[04:33] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:33] <Blake79> it let me save that change
[04:33] <Dr34mC0d3r> i have a ubuntu 6.04 - i changed ISP's and now i cant resolve dns. can someone help? I can ping other network resources and router @ 192.168.1.1
[04:34] <Rhine> ok that worked just added sudo >.< im a ubuntu newb
[04:34] <intelikey> Rhine also i should ask is hda1 the partition you really want to format ?
[04:34] <Blake79> posted line you asked me to. Still unable to access hda1.  Should i give up now?
[04:34] <Rhine> well that partition was only 13gb i had 60 left
[04:35] <Rhine> i would really like that full 80
[04:35] <thomasM> dr34mc0d3r set up dhcp
[04:35] <intelikey> Rhine then do sudo cfdisk /dev/hda  and delete that one and make a new one of full size.
[04:35] <Xbox_guru> hi, when I try to get the sound on my computer to work it tells me no sound device found. When I do the lspci command in the terminal, my sound card comes up as this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14153
[04:35] <maz_> wirless pc card help
[04:35] <maz_> anyone?
[04:36] <intelikey> Rhine before you do.
[04:36] <maz_> i've been at it for about 3 days now and can't get it to work
[04:36] <maz_> ?
[04:36] <MooPoo> does ubuntu come with a central place for installing/configuring hardware like on MacOS or windows?
[04:36] <thomasM> maz - google? ubuntu "wireless card" setup "how to"
[04:36] <Dr34mC0d3r> thomasM - good call - i allow 5 dhcp addresses and my ubuntu i have set to static out side that range....... good call... thanks
[04:37] <Blake79> i have to read alot more to figure this out.  Thanks for all the help.  I'm jumping on to windows and gonna read the entire ubuntu webpage.  :)
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> MooPoo: I don't even remember a central place for hardware in Windows - what do you mean?
[04:37] <maz_> anyone help please
[04:37] <intelikey> you do know that linux suports mounting partitions in the regular system don't you ?     you can have a 4g part, as / and 10g as /usr and 30g as /home    thus using all your disk in sections....
[04:37] <thomasM> well dr34mc0d3r i just did the same thing... set up a new modem/router. dhcp works everytime.
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> Blake79: See you next year.  (The wiki has 8,000 pages.)
[04:37] <intelikey> Rhine ^
[04:37] <amphi> Blake79: there's an 'intro to linux' book at tldp.org you might find useful
[04:38] <MooPoo> Am I taking this as a No ?
[04:38] <l4v4_f10w> anyone here know of any good poker apps
[04:38] <MooPoo> Can someone just say No for me
[04:38] <l4v4_f10w> or any that works with wine
[04:38] <maz_> anbody help with wirless networking and nidswrapper
[04:38] <thomasM> MooPoo: Hal-device-manager
[04:38] <thomasM> maz maz - google? ubuntu "wireless card" setup "how to"
[04:38] <luscas> hey.. i did something very.. very stupid, can anybody help me with it?
[04:38] <intelikey> l4v4_f10w do apt-cache search poker
[04:39] <Kyoske> can someone just walk me through the instalation of ubuntu
[04:39] <luscas> it's about an usb mp3 player i messed it up
[04:39] <intelikey> maz_ best i can do is point you to the wiki.
[04:39] <Kyoske> can someone just walk me through the instalation of ubuntu?
[04:39] <intelikey> !wifi
[04:39] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:39] <thomasM> luscas is it an njb device?
[04:39] <l4v4_f10w> lol no i mean online poker
[04:39] <maz_> went through it a ton of times
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> Kyoske: Have you read the install wiki page yet?
[04:39] <luscas> thomasM, i'm sorry, whats njb?
[04:39] <maz_> how do i switch directories in the terminal
[04:39] <Kyoske> no
[04:39] <luscas> its scsi..
[04:39] <HymnToLife> maz_ > cd
[04:39] <Kyoske> i havent
[04:39] <thomasM> luscas is it a creative or a dell dj ?
[04:39] <maz_> i'm lost in term of commands
[04:40] <l4v4_f10w> no worries im pretty sure wine might work on ladbrokes
[04:40] <maz_> so like cd desktop
[04:40] <intelikey> l4v4_f10w do apt-cache search games
[04:40] <maz_> or ?
[04:40] <watson541> MooPoo: it never amzes me the amuoubt iof people in here who wait and waity for an answer so obvoius it comes up on the first google page
[04:40] <HymnToLife> yes
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> !install
[04:40] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[04:40] <chapium> how do you make your resolution go higher than 1280x1024?
[04:40] <luscas> thomasM, no, its a generic usb mp3 player.. i tried to install linux w it.. and i messed it up..
[04:40] <Madpilot> maz, cd Desktop - case matters in the command line
[04:40] <watson541> if you dont want to learn plz dont migrate from windoows
[04:40] <maz_> ooo
[04:40] <maz_> thats what keeps messin gme up
[04:40] <maz_> thanks
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> Kyoske: That would be a good place to start.  Pretty straightforward from there.
[04:40] <maz_> i didn't know that
[04:40] <thomasM> luscas... you tried to install linux... on it?
[04:40] <l4v4_f10w> anyone here tryd suse 10.1
[04:41] <intelikey> chapium setup xorg correctly.  then adj. rez. as you like.
[04:41] <luscas> thomasM, yes.. and you can call me stupid
[04:41] <HymnToLife> last suse I tried was 9.0 some years ago
[04:41] <luscas> no
[04:41] <luscas> FROM it
[04:41] <luscas> i'm sorry
[04:41] <thomasM> luscas do a firmware upgrade from the vendor. should fix anything you messed up.
[04:41] <l4v4_f10w> yeah my last one was 10.0
[04:41] <Rhine> Ok thanks intelikey and amphi, much appreciated for helping a newb out
[04:41] <l4v4_f10w> since i tryd ubuntu, love it soo much
[04:41] <|Warz|>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY fer
[04:41] <luscas> thomasM, i've no idea where i can find it...
[04:41] <intelikey> Rhine np
[04:41] <chapium> well
[04:42] <thomasM> luscas well thats a problem with you and your mp3 player, not you and ubuntu.
[04:42] <HymnToLife> |Warz|> better change your password...
[04:42] <l4v4_f10w> its really nice, specially coz of the supports
[04:42] <|Warz|> hehehe
[04:42] <|Warz|> ooops
[04:42] <maz_> anyone know here tried a microsoft pc card install
[04:42] <luscas> thomasM, yes.. i know that .. but can you tell me where can i find help with it?
[04:42] <maz_> and had it work
[04:42] <chapium> intelikey: what do you mean by set it up correctly?  I think its fairly correct
[04:43] <intelikey> amphi also of note about using fs without partitions  grub pukes on such.  you have to use lilo to boot them.
[04:43] <thomasM> luscas: www.google.ca
[04:43] <maz_> ?
[04:43] <luscas> damn :/
[04:43] <luscas> i'm doing that for 4  hours
[04:43] <thomasM> i wish ubuntu would use lilo, just for it's good looks :D
[04:43] <watson541> luscas: sounds like its time to change your keywords then :)
[04:44] <Mitsurugi> where can you get new ubuntu themes?
[04:44] <luscas> watson541, hehehe thanks
[04:44] <watson541> thomasM: grub looks great on my screen
[04:44] <amphi> intelikey: uhuh
[04:44] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Mitsurugi about themes
[04:44] <thomasM> have you thought about emailing your mp3 vendor for help?
[04:44] <intelikey> chapium if the xorg.conf is correct then the options will be in the system menu to adjust to max rez  if the choice is not there then it's not setup correctly.     the default is seldon ever configured for maximum performance.
[04:45] <thomasM> you have to reconfigure xorg.
[04:45] <thomasM> !ati
[04:46] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:46] <Xbox_guru> hi, when I try to get the sound on my computer to work it tells me no sound device found. When I do the lspci command in the terminal, my sound card comes up as this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14153
[04:47] <Xbox_guru> I googled my card and came up with this website, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11381
[04:47] <high-freq>  type $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install.
[04:47] <high-freq> in this..don't i do it in /boot which is /dev/hda3 ???
[04:48] <watson541> high-freq: do it on the drive you boot from
[04:48] <Xbox_guru> high-freq: were you talking to me
[04:48] <Eleaf> where can I find libmp3lame.so ?
[04:48] <watson541> which would logically be hdc1
[04:48] <Xbox_guru> how do I edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/alsa-base
[04:48] <watson541> or, hda1, depending
[04:48] <intelikey> krap.,   apt-file has to dl a database and it doesn't continue the dl if interrupted.......     i can't use apt-file.
[04:49] <loquitus_of_borg> Hey People. If I have a program that says it needs libstdc++.so.6, do I need to rebuild that program for this platform? I looked in /usr/lib and only found libstdc++.so.5
[04:49] <high-freq> ok
[04:50] <C-O-L-T> Can I change my ubuntu's language I mean mine now is English can I change to another one like German or French?
[04:50] <intelikey> high-freq i've always used grub-install to install to the mbr...  grub-install /dev/hda    ? <shrugs/>
[04:50] <high-freq> watson541: ya i got em on hda
[04:50] <high-freq> k
[04:50] <intelikey> C-O-L-T yes.  dpkg-reconfigure locales
[04:51] <Mitsurugi> does a PCI bus info of 82557:8:9 sound like a real bus number?
[04:52] <amphi> Mitsurugi: not one I've ever seen
[04:52] <intelikey> Mitsurugi hmm not really.  0000:00:08.0 SCSI storage controller:
[04:52] <intelikey> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge:
[04:52] <intelikey> 0000:00:07.1 IDE interface:
[04:53] <high-freq> hmm... /dev/hda3 is /boot   and /dev/hda1 is /
[04:53] <high-freq> wouldn't work on either
[04:53] <amphi> high-freq: you want to install to the mbr, no?
[04:53] <high-freq> yes
[04:53] <maz> quick question guys
[04:53] <amphi> high-freq: so /dev/hda
[04:54] <high-freq> k
[04:54] <maz> i used ndiswrapper and installed the driver for the card
[04:54] <maz> says the dcriver is installed and hardware present
[04:54] <maz> do i just reboot now
[04:54] <maz> and how do i make sure that ndiswrapper starts on boot up
[04:54] <amphi> maz: shouldn't need to
[04:54] <Mitsurugi> amphi and interlikey: i put my network card into the slot I put the graphics card into and checked its bus id through the device manager
[04:54] <high-freq> ok
[04:54] <maz> amphi: shoudn't need to reboot
[04:55] <maz> or make sure ndiswrapper is installed
[04:55] <maz> i mean running
[04:55] <maz> on start up
[04:55] <amphi> maz: reboot
[04:55] <maz> where should i go from here then says driver is installed and hardware present but the card isn't lighting up
[04:55] <intelikey> Mitsurugi lspci
[04:55] <amphi> Mitsurugi: does lspci show the same/?
[04:56] <high-freq> ok it loaded ..but it loaded in the grub>
[04:56] <high-freq> hmm...brb
[04:56] <Xbox_guru> how do I Edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/alsa-base and change the line "cs46xx" to "snd-cs46xx"
[04:56] <DarkAura> I cant find yum...
[04:56] <DarkAura> is it on the cd?
[04:56] <Mitsurugi> amphi: ot sure i'll check
[04:56] <intelikey> yum ?   hehhe  for what ?
[04:56] <amphi> Xbox_guru: with your favorite editor and sudo
[04:56] <Mitsurugi> amphi: yes, it shows the same nu,ber
[04:56] <maz> says 0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4325 (rev 02)
[04:56] <DarkAura> to install stuff
[04:57] <DarkAura> hehe
[04:57] <intelikey> DarkAura no
[04:57] <intelikey> apt
[04:57] <thomasM> yum is not debian's package management system. APT is. Use apt.
[04:57] <Xbox_guru> amphi: I'm new to linux, what should I do, use any editor
[04:57] <DarkAura> apt
[04:57] <thomasM> !apt
[04:57] <ubotu> I heard apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[04:57] <DarkAura> i c
[04:57] <DarkAura> hehehe
[04:57] <DarkAura> sorry
[04:57] <maz> ?
[04:57] <thomasM> no problem
[04:57] <thomasM> read that page
[04:57] <maz> who
[04:57] <intelikey> well actually dpkg is debians package manager  but apt is the cli front end for dpkg
[04:58] <amphi> Xbox_guru: yes
[04:58] <thomasM> whatever.
[04:58] <intelikey> DarkAura synaptic package manager is the gui front end for dpkg.... the pointy clicky thingy
[04:58] <thomasM> APT is a system :)
[04:59] <Xbox_guru> amphi: no I ment could you walk me through it with any editor
[04:59] <thomasM> DarkAura, go to "Add/Remove" it covers most of what you need.
[04:59] <thomasM> anything specific, fire up synaptic as intelikey said.
[04:59] <intelikey>     apt - Advanced Package Tool
[05:00] <thomasM> advanced package toolsystem durr
[05:00] <thomasM> :D
[05:00] <intelikey> durr all you want i just pasted from the man page  :)
[05:01] <amphi> Xbox_guru: you just find the text you want to change, and change it to whatever you want
[05:01] <amphi> Xbox_guru: and save the file ;)
[05:01] <Xbox_guru> amphi: with the file explorer
[05:01] <amphi> Xbox_guru: no, with a text editor
[05:01] <Xbox_guru> amphi:....
[05:02] <eggzeck> Xbox_guru: sudo gedit /path/path
[05:02] <eggzeck> Xbox_guru: where /path/path is replaced with the path to the file
[05:03] <ronlybonly> is there any way to upgrade from ubuntu 5.04 to dapper (flight 7) using the install cd?
[05:03] <eggzeck> Xbox_guru: you will also type that command in the terminal.
[05:03] <thomasM> ronlybonly: do a dist-upgrade
[05:04] <d> !dma
[05:04] <Joetheodd> Ah... tuesday nights. Long hours sitting in front of the boxen reading and providing the occasional tech support. =)
[05:04] <Xbox_guru> eggzeck: so what do I type in the text editor, I want to Edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/alsa-base and change the line "cs46xx" to "snd-cs46xx"
[05:04] <eggzeck> Xbox_guru: wow dude, you just change it? and save ?
[05:04] <intelikey> Xbox_guru one could do;     cat /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/alsa-base | sed 's/cs46xx/snd-cs46xx/' | sudo tee /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/alsa-base
[05:04] <bob> Aloha.
[05:05] <eggzeck> intelikey: comeon, he said he was new
[05:05] <Xbox_guru> eggzeck: I'm new at linux
[05:05] <Joetheodd> Do we have a TS channel for hawaiian? =p
[05:05] <bob> Just got ubuntu installed for the first time and have been toy with it.
[05:05] <bob> Anyone in a helpful mood for an ignorant newbie?
[05:05] <eggzeck> Xbox_guru: you've NEVER used notepad (on win)?
[05:05] <intelikey> eggzeck yeah.  and that's a cp/paste fix.
[05:05] <poimen> hello right now I am using dapper and I have been updating from rc1 every week or so I have about 1gb in my /var/cache/apt/packages
[05:05] <Joetheodd> bob: Sure, we love ignorant people.
[05:05] <amphi> bob: just ask
[05:06] <eggzeck> intelikey: haha =)
[05:06] <poimen> how can I clean that without having to erase the entire folder I want to keep the latest packages
[05:06] <intelikey> :)
[05:06] <ronlybonly> thomasM: when i apt-cdrom and try a dist-upgrade, i get an error because I don't remove the currently running kernel, then the apt process aborts.
[05:06] <poimen> ??
[05:06] <bob> Well first, this box had windows, and I'm not suire if all the hardware drivers got installed properly.
[05:06] <ronlybonly> what am i doing wrong/how could i avoid this issue?
[05:06] <thomasM> you don't remove the running kernel. why not?
[05:06] <bob> Mainly cause the device manager is like greek compared to my norm of windows.
[05:06] <Xbox_guru> eggzeck: yes I have, I just don't know what to type
[05:06] <intelikey> eggzeck if you don't think i should do it for them.  you walk them through it....  :)
[05:06] <anacaona> hello
[05:06] <eggzeck> Xbox_guru: when you run the command I tolod you to run, you find the line which contains what you want to edit, then change it and save, then close it
[05:06] <anacaona> i'm having problems getting liferea to work on dapper
[05:07] <bob> First one and most important is I'm not sure if the video card driver got installed properly.
[05:07] <ronlybonly> thomasM, the warning message is pretty daunting. i'm just afraid i'm giong to screw up my system
[05:07] <anacaona> i get an error message saying:
[05:07] <thomasM> bob do you have an ati card?
[05:07] <anacaona> No browser module configured!
[05:07] <anacaona> trying to load browser module Mozilla (liblihtmlm.so)
[05:07] <anacaona> Segmentation fault
[05:07] <Joetheodd> How can I change my screen resolution on the live CD?
[05:07] <thomasM> what's the warning message? people dist-upgrade all of the time, it mostly goes smoothly.
[05:07] <anacaona> i checked and liferea-mozilla is installed with the filme liblihtmlm.so
[05:07] <paula_> #stoq\
[05:08] <bob> It is an ATI vid card and it has a dual port, thus I have dual monitor.  It talks to both monitors, but they mirror each other.  I'm having difficulty getting to to be like an extended desktop on the 2nd monitor.
[05:08] <thomasM> bob
[05:08] <thomasM> !ati
[05:08] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:08] <thomasM> follow that
[05:08] <thomasM> and then install fglrxcontrol
[05:08] <bob> Thanks.
[05:08] <thomasM> no problem man :D
[05:08] <bob> I'll start there.
[05:08] <thomasM> its a good guide.
[05:08] <thomasM> the 1st link
[05:08] <bob> If I have issues, do you mind if I pm you?
[05:09] <thomasM> i may not be on.
[05:09] <Zeus`> hello all
[05:09] <ronlybonly> thomasM, i'm doing the upgrade on my other system, so i'll give you the message when i get back to that prompt
[05:10] <Zeus`> I used automatix to install a number of codes / media players etc. however, when I try to play a music file (that i took off of my windows partition) the sound quality is terrible, even using all three players I have installed
[05:10] <Zeus`> Any ideas?
[05:10] <eggzeck> !automatix
[05:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[05:10] <paula_> join #stoq
[05:10] <DarkAura> i am getting an error when i try to compile kismet -- configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[05:10] <thomasM> zeus is your pcm volume turned up to 100%? thats probably why.
[05:11] <amphi> DarkAura: install the ncurses dev package
[05:11] <eggzeck> paula_: don't forget the /. like this: /join #stoq
[05:11] <patch> wow compiz+xgl+ubuntu wow wow wow I love this !
[05:11] <thomasM> automatix is alright, don't let them scare you.
[05:11] <thomasM> patch it's sweet i know
[05:11] <paula_> tks so much
[05:11] <thomasM> but i don't like how video's don't play anymore.
[05:12] <eric__> trying to install macromedia flash player, need help please
[05:12] <thomasM> if they can get around that, i'd have it running all of the time.
[05:12] <Zeus`> Christ...you scared me with that automatix thing...
[05:12] <patch> thomasM lol yes I'm live mexico ! lol
[05:12] <eric__> ^ extreme newbie
[05:12] <Madpilot> !flash
[05:12] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:12] <Madpilot> eric__, see ubotu's URL above ^^^
[05:12] <eggzeck> thomasM: Don't say that if you're not sure of the risks it takes. heh
[05:12] <eric__> thanks :)
[05:12] <DarkAura> hrm -- isnt working in apt
[05:12] <thomasM> eggzeck i've used it.
[05:12] <thomasM> i've even used it on dapper for some things.
[05:13] <eggzeck> thomasM: yes, but you seem not to know the risks
[05:13] <thomasM> yeah, doesn't make it any less dangerous.
[05:13] <Zeus`> So should I continue to use it or not?
[05:14] <intelikey> risks  and  dapper are syninums arent they ?   beta software is always a "risk"
[05:15] <thomasM> zeus, it is the easiest way to get dvd playback to work, and many other things ubuntu should have included.
[05:16] <AngryElf> what's the best program to read ext3 on XP?
[05:16] <intelikey> should have included ?     you would have ubuntu to be in cort with M$ of copy rights ?
[05:16] <T`> guys, i get different resolutions when i start xfce thru gdm vs. startx... anyone know how to solve this?
[05:16] <patch> could you suggest me an other good software like a limewire ?
[05:16] <blank_> gnutella maybe, patch
[05:16] <Zeus`> Is there a channel on here for "Ubuntu Center"
[05:16] <son> fehkvas
[05:16] <intelikey> e2fsexplorer ?
[05:16] <son> kfguksaf
[05:16] <Zeus`> Or is that unsafe as well?
[05:16] <ronlybonly> thomasM, i re-read the error msg and decided to try removing the kernel.
[05:16] <son> fuck you
[05:16] <patch> thank's blank_
[05:17] <poimen> how can I clean that without having to erase the entire folder I want to keep the latest packages???
[05:17] <patch> but this software works whit compiz ? blank_
[05:17] <blank_> patch, how would i know
[05:17] <blank_> should
[05:18] <CarlFK> what created build/ in /lib/modules/2.6.15-22-686/ ?
[05:18] <Zeus`> Is there an ubuntu center channel?
[05:18] <patch> blank_: ok !
[05:18] <intelikey> CarlFK dpkg prolly
[05:18] <CarlFK> intelikey: yeah, but what package ?
[05:19] <amphi> CarlFK: did you build a kernel with make-kpkg and install it? that'll do it
[05:19] <intelikey> initrdtools ?
[05:19] <amphi> CarlFK: perhaps a kernel source package will
[05:19] <CarlFK> amphi: k - I was hoping somenone knew which one - installed a bunch
[05:20] <amphi> CarlFK: dpkg -S /full/path/to/build will tell you
[05:21] <rob138> hi, how can i fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14155
[05:21] <rob138> what process is using my sound?
[05:21] <CarlFK> amphi: thanks - linux-headers-2.6.15-22-686
[05:21] <CarlFK> was hoping that was it
[05:21] <amphi> rob138: try lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[05:22] <Falstius> woo, dpkg -S is neat.
[05:22] <rob138> amphi: gnome-btd 5478        rob   48u      CHR       14,3                9279 /dev/dsp
[05:23] <BTDog> yummy!
[05:24] <amphi> rob138: gnome-btd, eh? ;)
[05:24] <rob138> amphi: gnome-btd: no process killed
[05:24] <Falstius> rob138: gnome-btdownload probably
[05:25] <amphi> rob138: I have no idea what that is
[05:25] <rob138> falstius, you're probably right, dangit
[05:25] <Falstius> I didn't know it even had sounds though.
[05:26] <rob138> well i killed bittorrent and my sound works! wtf
[05:26] <Kyoske> AMPHI: I GOT IT
[05:26] <Kyoske> I FINALLY GOT IT TO WORK
[05:26] <intelikey> check it on /dev/.static    just to see if it's the test that is reporting it's slef
[05:26] <Kyoske> ^^
[05:26] <intelikey> self
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[05:26] <amphi> Kyoske: oh joy! o frabjous day! ;)
[05:27] <Kyoske> yes yes
[05:27] <Kyoske> very
[05:27] <Kyoske> very
[05:27] <Kyoske> im so happy
[05:27] <intelikey> why would bt be accessing dsp ?
[05:27] <Kyoske> thanks for not abandoning me
[05:27] <DianWei> Hello, a question are the English Ubuntu forums down?
[05:28] <amphi> Kyoske: so you now have both windows and ubuntu working?
[05:28] <Kyoske> YES
[05:28] <Kyoske> im loadinging into ubuntu right now
[05:28] <Kyoske> i think///
[05:28] <Kyoske> brb
[05:28] <amphi> heh
[05:28] <slackern> DianWei: seems like it
[05:28] <Kyoske> lol
[05:28] <Kyoske> its installing some more
[05:28] <Kyoske> so i did my happy dance for no reason =P
[05:29] <Kyoske> aww... what the heck, lets happy dance some more
[05:29] <amphi> Kyoske: should be ok
[05:30] <eric_p> going through the steps to install flash, it says to type ./flashplayer-installer in the command bar.. and when i do (?) appears, why is this
[05:30] <lendyl> Help!
[05:30] <intelikey> try sh flashplayer-installer
[05:30] <baconbacon> eric_p you're insalling flash where
[05:31] <baconbacon> bah ok
[05:31] <amphi> lendyl: ?
[05:31] <DianWei> I have wreaked a most horrible disaster on my Ubuntu partition, albeit I am able to salvage many a file from the rubbish that are quite critical to me, but what I would really hope is that there may be a way to salvage some sorta record of all the packages I got, so that I may totally reformat that partition and then Immediately get it somewhat to where I was.
[05:31] <Kyoske> how do u emote?
[05:31] <rob138> is there a way to make mplayer play all the files in a directory in a playlist?
[05:32] <eric_p> intelikey, i typed that and it looked like it did something, but nothing showed up to tell me progress or anything like that sort
[05:32] <amphi> rob138: for i in *; do mplayer $i; done is one way
[05:32] <lendyl> i download a yahoo messenger,, then i save it on my desktop when i double click it it asked for password then after that it starts initializing then theres this icon add application what shall i do?
[05:32] <amphi> Kyoske: bu o/~ singing o/~ ;)
[05:33] <Kyoske> amphi: how?
[05:33] <intelikey> eric_p that's not always a bad thing.   in linux 'no error = "no error"'
[05:33] <rob138> amphi, you lost me
[05:33] <Kyoske> ~singing?
[05:33] <Rhine> Anyone know to install Skype?
[05:33] <rob138> mplayer $i didn't work
[05:33] <balancin> yahoo messenger for linux is compatible with msn messenger ?
[05:33] <Rhine> i have the .deb but what do i do with it?
[05:33] <Kyoske> lol skype is just any other program
[05:33] <Kyoske> u install
[05:33] <Kyoske> at least it is on windows
[05:33] <bimberi> !skype
[05:33] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[05:34] <baconbacon> with the deb... dpkg -i mydeb.deb
[05:34] <amphi> rob138: no, assuming you are in the directory, do 'for i in *; do mplayer $i; done', without quotes
[05:34] <baconbacon> sudo that
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> balancin,  you may want to check out gaim  it can do most all the IM chats.
[05:34] <lendyl> so linux is not compatible w/ yahoo messenger?
[05:34] <intelikey> rob138 half a command seldom does work   :)
[05:34] <baconbacon> lendyl: use gaim for yahoo chat, its compatible
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> There are yahoo mess. clients for linux.  but the 'official' yahoo one - is rather old.
[05:34] <rob138> : ) heh i thought he was explaining the command
[05:34] <DianWei> Mostly, insofar as I can comprehend, since I kept most of my work in my home folder, I should be able to just copy it, format the partition and paste... but I dunno.
[05:34] <intelikey> it is "for i in * ;do mplayer $i ;done "
[05:35] <rob138> amphi, intelikey, should it take a moment before anything plays? i did the entire command this time and it's just sitting saying "reading from stdin"
[05:36] <amphi> rob138: huh?
[05:36] <jhenn> clear
[05:36] <intelikey> rob138 prolly not.  best ^C
[05:36] <balancin> Dr_Willis, i actually use gaim, but i searching the new alternatives
[05:36] <cyphase> what's up with the ubuntu book?
[05:36] <intelikey> that's ctrl + C
[05:36] <balancin> lol
[05:36] <abarbaccia> hello all! quick question - i'm running breezy but want to upgrade to a more recent kernel (2.6.15+) -- what's the easiest way to do it?
[05:36] <jhenn> anyone know why the ralink 2500 wireless chipset isn't supported in ubuntu when the drivers are GPL?
[05:36] <rob138> huh?
[05:37] <lendyl> ok... thank,,, but why everytime i install the process is the same it ask me to add aprogram? what should i do w/ that?
[05:37] <amphi> rob138: what did you type, exactly ?
[05:37] <maz> hey
[05:37] <bron> ok, so dapper is using the new GNOME screensaver, but unfortunately, as far as I can tell, you can't select which screen hacks run when you have "random" selected, it just plays them all.  Anyone know how to change that?
[05:37] <maz> guys still having trouble with the wireless card
[05:37] <rob138> amphi, your command, and actually i control-c'd it and it moved to the next video, i guess for some reason on eof the video's was not workin
[05:37] <maz> i got the card to work its lighting up now
[05:38] <maz> but i can't actually get on the rinternet
[05:38] <maz> says it has 100 percent signal and all
[05:38] <maz> any ideas?
[05:38] <rob138> amphi, it seemed doing it that way won't play files with spaces in the names
[05:39] <baconbacon> hmm what does it say when you ifconfig ethX up
[05:39] <amphi> rob138: ah... put $i in quotes, perhaps
[05:39] <baconbacon> i remember once i tried to bring up a w/l card but it didnt work until i configured it with the graphical thingy
[05:39] <amphi> rob138: you shouldn't have spaces in filenames anyway ;)
[05:39] <rob138> amphi, okay
[05:39] <newtoubuntu> hello everyone, I'm I just downloaded and installed ubuntu. I'm on it right now. This is my first time on linux and I'm wondering how I update My Drivers for my video card
[05:39] <maz> gives me a bunch of mumbo jumbo
[05:39] <Flannel> amphi: nothing wrong with spaces in filenames.  they just require a little extra work.
[05:39] <rob138> amphi, how come?
[05:40] <amphi> Flannel: that's not 'nothing wrong' IMHO
[05:40] <intelikey> rob138 the thing not explained is that * is all files and dirs in the $PWD (presend working dir)    you should do something more sensiable like  " find /base/dir -type f -name '*.ogg' -exec mplayer {} \; "  <--- in that example the /base/dir  and  *.ogg are to be adjusted to your needs.  /home/rob/   maybe  and  *.mp3  or what ever *.wav    but that is a good example of how to repete a command on all of a type of files
[05:40] <Kyoske> AMPHI: IM ENTERING IN UBUNTU
[05:40] <Kyoske> it installed and everything
[05:40] <Kyoske> I GOT MY DESKTIP
[05:40] <Kyoske> I WANT TO THROW UP IM SO HAPPY
[05:40] <amphi> Kyoske: some problem with capslock? ;)
[05:40] <newtoubuntu> I have a radeon, downloaded all linux drivers from ati, but none of them worked
[05:41] <BTDog> he's  happy
[05:41] <amphi> Kyoske: congratulations
[05:41] <baconbacon> !ati
[05:41] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:41] <Kyoske> NO IM SO HAPPY
[05:41] <amphi> BTDog: I know
[05:41] <Flannel> amphi: why? spaces are perfectly valid on the file system, if your program can't deal with spaces, it's a shortcoming of your program, and I'm sure some of the other esoteric filename options will cause additional problems.
[05:41] <baconbacon> !caps
[05:41] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[05:41] <baconbacon> but well you are indeed yelling so..
[05:41] <amphi> Flannel: yes, yes
[05:41] <rob138> intelikey, that is one helluva a command
[05:41] <newtoubuntu> thanks for the links, i'll check it out and let you know...
[05:41] <rob138> why should files not have spaces?
[05:42] <intelikey> rob yes it is.
[05:42] <Flannel> rob138: because unless youre tabcompleting, you have to escape the spaces.
[05:42] <Flannel> rob138: tab completion escapes for you.  but I suppose you still have to escape them.
[05:42] <rob138> the "\"
[05:42] <Flannel> yes.
[05:42] <balancin> what i acess a ntfs hd of my pc in ubuntu?
[05:42] <rob138> !\
[05:42] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rob138
[05:42] <amphi> rob138: because normally a space is a delimiter, so you have to do a bit more work, as Flannel said, to get commands to work correctly with filenames that include spaces
[05:42] <intelikey> rob138 they can.   you mean like   "this is my file.blah"  ?    you can quote them.
[05:43] <rob138> okay
[05:43] <eric_p> i need serious help, i have no idea what im doing lol.
[05:43] <Flannel> !tell newtoubuntu about ati
[05:43] <Flannel> !tell balancin about ntfs
[05:43] <lendyl> amphi: everytime i download something in the web... i encounter some parameters like add/remove programs... y, what should i do w/ that?
[05:43] <intelikey> rob138 " find /base/dir -type f -name '*.ogg' -exec mplayer "{}" \; " <-- for files with spaces in the names.
[05:44] <balancin> Thanks Flannel, im newbie user yet lol
[05:44] <Kyoske> sweet
[05:44] <amphi> rob138: any char apart from '/' is legal in filenames, but some chars have special meaning to the shell, so need to be escaped or dealt with in some other way to be treated as literals
[05:44] <Kyoske> nicholas is my ubuntu desktop
[05:44] <nicholas_> sweet
[05:44] <nicholas_> :D
[05:44] <Flannel> balancin: we're all new at some point, nothing to be worried about.
[05:44] <amphi> lendyl: I don't know what you're doing to get that
[05:44] <balancin> :)
[05:44] <rob138> thats something that is completely different for someone switching from windows
[05:44] <eric_p> like me, i just installed linux right now.
[05:44] <eric_p> i used windows my whole life
[05:44] <nicholas_> amphi this is awesome
[05:45] <nicholas_> so was it so great about ubuntu?
[05:45] <nicholas_> lol
[05:45] <Flannel> rob138: no it's not.  in windows you have to put quotes around thigns with spaces.
[05:45] <Flannel> rob138: don't even have the option of escaping them.
[05:45] <amphi> nicholas_: you are the artist formerly known as Kyoske ?
[05:45] <Flannel> amphi: they're both in the channel.
[05:46] <rob138> flannel, i meant that you can use any character
[05:46] <amphi> Flannel: strewth ;)
[05:46] <Flannel> oh, wait.  nevermind.
[05:46] <Flannel> rob138: well, there are some characters you cant use.
[05:46] <intelikey> rob138 yes.  you will find a lot of nice things about linux.
[05:46] <nicholas_> amphi, how do i get all my folders and crap to ubuntu
[05:46] <intelikey> Flannel other than /  ?
[05:46] <amphi> Flannel: only / AFAIK
[05:46] <atorlars> hi
[05:47] <atorlars> how does this works
[05:47] <rob138> if i take a harddrive that is my root drive and put it in another computer will it be able to boot?
[05:47] <Flannel> amphi, intelikey, depends on the FS.
[05:47] <intelikey> Flannel example ?
[05:47] <Flannel> sigh.  fine, let me scrounge it up ;)
[05:47] <rob138> what does it mean if i keep gettin this: alsa-play: xrun of at least 0.004 msecs. resetting stream% 18.7% 14 0 and the video keeps freezing for 2 seconds
[05:48] <amphi> Flannel: sure, but in general for 'native' linux FSes
[05:48] <baconbacon> rob138: thats a tough one
[05:48] <amphi> intelikey: I doubt you can have \ in a filename on fat ;)
[05:48] <rob138> dang
[05:48] <FX> Hullo?
[05:48] <baconbacon> i remember mandrake being really good a configuring after major hardware changes but im not quite sure about ubuntu
[05:48] <intelikey> amphi you can't have linux on fat   :/
[05:49] <baconbacon> yes you can
[05:49] <nicholas_> amphi, do u know how i can get my data from windows to ubuntu?
[05:49] <amphi> intelikey: no, but you can create files on it
[05:49] <baconbacon> its just reeeealy ugly
[05:49] <intelikey> not without an artificial environment for ti.
[05:49] <balancin> Flannel, your tip is a sucess here ! thanks
[05:49] <intelikey> amphi but you are making windows files :)
[05:50] <Flannel> actually, it seems NTFS is just as lenient about characters as linux FSs.
[05:50] <balancin> Flannel, but, if i need a write permission in paths?
[05:50] <Xbox_guru> hello, where is the bittorrent meta file?
[05:50] <nicholas_> do u not know?
[05:50] <amphi> Flannel: anything except \ ?
[05:50] <Xbox_guru> when I try to open bittorrent it asks me where it is
[05:50] <Flannel> amphi: no, anything except null.  Of course, windows places more restrictions, but the FS itself can have any character.
[05:50] <amphi> rob138: what are you playing?
[05:50] <Flannel>  \/:?*"><|
[05:51] <newtoubuntu> E: Couldn't find package linux-k7         what is this? i have the cd in the drive
[05:51] <Flannel> but those are windows restrictions, not NTFS restrictions.
[05:51] <electroni> l
[05:51] <amphi> Flannel: uhuh
[05:51] <rob138> amphi a mpeg file
[05:51] <intelikey> !@
[05:51] <ubotu> intelikey: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:51] <amphi> rob138: what ouput video driver are you using?
[05:52] <rob138> amphi how do i check that?
[05:52] <amphi> rob138: you could try mplayer -vo xv and see if that helps
[05:52] <C|int> hey all, I did what the forum sadi on wireless, for my laptop, and I missing something I guess..
[05:52] <rob138> amphi okay thanks
[05:53] <Kr0ntab> heya folks
[05:53] <Blake79>  inteli any new ideas on my hda1.  I'm up s* creek
[05:53] <electroni> my apropos is not working, weird
[05:53] <amphi> rob138: you can do mplayer -vo help to see a list of available video drivers
[05:53] <intelikey> tty23 [greg$~]  ls
[05:53] <intelikey> Documents  lesson.txt  this is a !@#$%^&*()_+ test         tmp
[05:53] <intelikey> bin        rulett      this is only a !@\|#$%^&*()_+ test  work
[05:53] <maz> hey back again
[05:53] <rob138> amphi looks like i'm set with 91 audio & 204 video codecs
[05:54] <maz> anybody, i've got the card to start up and its blinking and all set up the connection withe the ssid and wep key
[05:54] <C|int> when I do, iwconfig,
[05:54] <C|int> I get,
[05:54] <maz> but its says i have signal
[05:54] <maz> but still can't get the interent
[05:54] <C|int> eth0      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[05:54] <C|int>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[05:54] <amphi> maz: someone set up you the bomb
[05:54] <C|int> RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[05:54] <C|int>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[05:54] <C|int>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid
[05:54] <electroni> I get "nothing appropriate" on every term, when using apropos *foo
[05:54] <C|int> and then this
[05:55] <intelikey> Blake79 ?
[05:55] <intelikey> sorry i missed it ?
[05:55] <electroni> Is there so dependency im unawares of? I dont see why apt would not include it if there were.
[05:55] <newtoubuntu> ok. i ran this sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.con
[05:55] <electroni> *sine
[05:55] <newtoubuntu> now i have to reboot, we'll see what I get
[05:55] <rob138> if i wanted to get a new computer in the next couple monthst that i wanted to put existing ram i have laying around, a ide hard drive that i boot linux from, and a sata storage drive, where would be my best bet to look, also so i can put windows on it to dual boot.... typical question huh
[05:55] <electroni> *some ;p
[05:55] <amphi> rob138: does it work ok with -vo xv ? -ao sdl seems to work better than alsa on some systems
[05:55] <Overand> Hey- I've got a powerbook G4, and I'm starting with a brand new HD, and want to do a dual boot between Ubuntu and OS X - the guide is a little weird about it, anyone got ideas/suggestions?
[05:56] <intelikey> Blake79 ?
[05:56] <rob138> yeah it did amphi
[05:56] <rob138> thanks
[05:56] <Flannel> rob138: make sure the ram works with the motherboard.
[05:56] <rob138> flannel, i have two different types of ram, i only know their different because they have different edges to fit in, can i use both with a motherboard?
[05:57] <amphi> rob138: you can do 'echo vo=xv >> ~/.mplayer/config' so you don't have to do it every time
[05:57] <Blake79> yeah
[05:57] <Blake79> iiiears.....hey again
[05:57] <rob138> amphi, will using xv change the graphical quality of videos?
[05:57] <Flannel> rob138: no.  And if theyre old, you might have a hard time finding a motherboard for them anyway.  But no, you cant mix those RAMs.
[05:58] <iiiears> Blake79 - Hi! - was someone abvle to help?
[05:58] <amphi> rob138: xv is a good driver, does scaling etc in hw
[05:58] <Blake79> no, i was hoping someone might of thought of something new.  But in the interest of accomplishing something, can i move onto something else, perhaps easier?
[05:58] <Blake79> How about audio?  Can i set-up or test in ubuntu my audio drivers?  So far i haven't gotten any sounds
[05:59] <intelikey> Blake79 what was the other issue ?
[05:59] <iiiears> Blake79 - I am probably just as curious as you are to know why your disk icons didn't work.
[05:59] <maz_> internet keeps going in and out
[05:59] <maz_> so anbody help?
[05:59] <rob138> flannel but with regards to and IDE hard drive, IDE cd/dvd burnder, and a sata hard drive, those should all work with a different computer?
[05:59] <maz_> hi
[05:59] <Blake79> in that case, let's keep our ears out, i can't copy from disk manager, (i was hoping i could skirt the isue)
[05:59] <intelikey> still not able to access hda1 ?
[06:00] <Flannel> rob138: yeah, just make sure your motherboard supports both IDE and SATA.  most do.
[06:00] <maz_> andbody
[06:00] <intelikey> Blake79 in the terminal ls /media/hda1/
[06:00] <intelikey> does it show files ?
[06:00] <Blake79> permission denied intel
[06:00] <rob138> short of building a computer myself, what options are there? (aside from dell/hp)
[06:01] <intelikey> Blake79 in the terminal ls /media
[06:01] <intelikey> oops
[06:01] <intelikey> Blake79 in the terminal ls -l /media
[06:01] <maz_> this is what its telling me
[06:01] <maz_> wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any
[06:01] <maz_>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00
[06:01] <maz_>           Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:16 dBm
[06:01] <maz_>           RTS thr:2347 B   Fragment thr:2346 B
[06:01] <maz_>           Power Management:off
[06:01] <C|int> rob, ASUS, and AMD :-)
[06:01] <Flannel> rob138: building yourself isn't that hard (there are guides online) and definately the cheapest.
[06:01] <maz_>           Link Quality:100/100  Signal level:-10 dBm  Noise level:-256 dBm
[06:01] <maz_>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:01] <Flannel> !paste
[06:01] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[06:01] <maz_>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:4413   Missed beacon:0
[06:01] <Blake79> cdrom  cdrom0  cdrom1  floppy  floppy0  hda1
[06:01] <maz_> ??
[06:01] <C|int> maz
[06:01] <C|int> your lucky
[06:01] <intelikey> what does hda1 say Blake79 ?
[06:01] <iiiears> rob138 - eMachines? (Budget Basic computing)
[06:01] <maz_> ?
[06:01] <C|int> rob,
[06:01] <Blake79> it is blue, i copied what it gave me.
[06:01] <C|int> ->  http://www.tigerdiret.com
[06:01] <C|int> or, www.pricewatch.com
[06:01] <intelikey> Blake79 in the terminal ls -l /media
[06:02] <C|int> ;)
[06:02] <intelikey> you left the -l out
[06:02] <iiiears> or newegg.com
[06:02] <Blake79> total 20
[06:02] <Blake79> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 2006-05-16 16:16 cdrom -> cdrom0
[06:02] <Blake79> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-05-16 16:16 cdrom0
[06:02] <Blake79> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-05-16 16:16 cdrom1
[06:02] <Blake79> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 2006-05-16 16:16 floppy -> floppy0
[06:02] <Blake79> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-05-16 16:16 floppy0
[06:02] <Blake79> dr-x------  1 root root 8192 2006-05-16 23:01 hda1
[06:02] <Blake79> brandon@Linux-Ubuntu:~$
[06:02] <Blake79> sorry everyone
[06:02] <C|int> anyone here, can troubleshoot wireless, what i might be missin lol.. I got the acer_acpi, and other stuff and ndiswrapper
[06:02] <intelikey> don't flood.
[06:02] <C|int> and I went to college, to get all the stuff, high speed, and couldn't get the dam thing to work
[06:02] <C|int> >_<
[06:03] <intelikey> Blake79 sudo chmod 777 /media/hda1
[06:03] <noalear> Hello.
[06:03] <intelikey> never mind.
[06:03] <noalear> I am a Ubuntu noob. I would like help setting up Mplayer.
[06:03] <iiiears> Blake79 - Eeek1 - all of thos drives are controlled by the root user. - hm - maybe man chown can help.
[06:03] <intelikey> Blake79 i see what "i" did wrong.  sorry. about that.  the umasks are upside down.
[06:04] <C|int> first off all noalear , you need build-essential
[06:04] <rob138> jesus there are a lot of stuff to go into building a computer
[06:04] <C|int> you might want, the dvd libdvd etc,
[06:04] <intelikey> iiiears no it the umask
[06:04] <C|int> you need that too
[06:04] <Blake79> lol...how did that happen!!!
[06:04] <amphi> !tell noalear about mplayer
[06:04] <bimberi> ubotu tell noalear abut mplayer
[06:04] <iiiears> intelikey - Ah. :)
[06:04] <C|int> okay all
[06:04] <C|int> thats enough ;)
[06:04] <bimberi> ubotu tell noalear about mplayer
[06:05] <C|int> noalear, , what version of ubuntu are you using
[06:05] <Blake79> !ubotu tell blake79 about mplayer
[06:05] <DianWei> Since I broke my computer, after backing everything up, I'm gonna use this oppurtunity to try out the beta of ubuntu.
[06:05] <intelikey> Blake79 to much going on at one time... sorry    here's what happened.   the  fmask and dmask in /etc/fstab are  644 and 755  should be  133  and  022  respectively.
[06:05] <C|int> its nice DianWei
[06:06] <nicholas_> well cya
[06:06] <nicholas_> cya guys
[06:06] <Blake79> ok i need the edit gksudo gedit or something?  :)
[06:06] <nicholas_> later amphi
[06:06] <C|int> *waves* :)
[06:06] <amphi> nicholas_: n8
[06:06] <sparkleytone> is dapper based on debian sid or etch?
[06:06] <Mercutio150> hey anyone point me in the direction for Vchat irc help?
[06:06] <nicholas_> thnx for the help
[06:06] <Mercutio150> or xchat
[06:06] <sparkleytone> i'm guessing sid?
[06:06] <rob138> is there any benefit in linux to using a 64 bit vs 32 bit>
[06:06] <amphi> sparkleytone: sid I believe
[06:06] <intelikey> what that does is the number is sub tracted from 7  rendering a file permission    and i gave you the perm not the number to subtract from it.... Blake79
[06:07] <C|int> I got, Dapper alpha 7, running real nice
[06:07] <amphi> rob138: if you don't want your clock to roll over in 2038  ;)
[06:07] <sparkleytone> rob138: confusing library locations and the ability to address more than 4GB of RAM?
[06:07] <Blake79> no prob, i'm trying to get into filenow.  There was a gedit or something i needed to put before the /location/etc
[06:07] <C|int> it responds faster, for 1:)
[06:07] <C|int> I edited, my grub, etc..
[06:07] <intelikey> thus  755 rendered 022
[06:07] <C|int> all programming language, seem to work okay
[06:08] <intelikey> Blake79 yes   sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:08] <rob138> are there some current guides to build decent computers somewhere?
[06:08] <amphi> intelikey: it's intuitive, really ;)
[06:08] <C|int> rob, ,
[06:08] <C|int> get a bearbones kit
[06:08] <gleesond> how involved is it to set up webmail
[06:08] <gleesond> ?
[06:08] <Blake79> That's what i guessed, not bad!  changing now...
[06:08] <sparkleytone> building computers tends to be more expensive these days
[06:08] <DianWei> I've played the live cd a bit, and I thought to myself, "This looks rock'em sock'em; can't wait to try it when it comes out." Today, somewhat of a critical error comes to light I had no idea about (basically a partitioning problem with winders that screwed up my computer when I finally had to use windows for the first time in months) So now, thanks to my silliness, I get to run the beta. :3
[06:08] <C|int> sparkleytone, , get 1 with no OS, not really
[06:08] <intelikey> amphi i some times have constipation of the brain and direah of the mouth.... if you know what i mean.
[06:08] <amphi> intelikey: heh
[06:09] <C|int> rob, what processor are you interested in, I would go AMD
[06:09] <sparkleytone> C|int: dell and hp both sell whiteboxes from time to time on the supercheap
[06:09] <gleesond> i.e. set up email for my ubuntu computer then serve webmail
[06:09] <C|int> nah, I don't mess with dell, no offense to Mike,
[06:09] <Blake79> OK, i made the changes and saved them.
[06:09] <iiiears> intelikey - cool! - can't help but to learn something new here.
[06:09] <DianWei> Note to self: Get a freaking huge hard drive so I can back up, and wipe out that satanic ntfs partition. :3
[06:09] <C|int> I ordered mine custom,
[06:09] <Blake79> lol...no dice though...Will i need to log off and back on?
[06:09] <intelikey> Blake79 ok do this now.  no need to reboot.   sudo umount /media/hda1
[06:10] <Blake79> k
[06:10] <rob138> C|int, why do you recomment AMD? and where did you order your's from
[06:10] <C|int> aack in 2004,  Mach Speed Motherboard, only capable of max Athlon Xp 3000 , and 128 nvidia ge Force
[06:10] <intelikey> Blake79 then sudo mount /media/hda1
[06:10] <C|int> my next system, is going to support SATA
[06:10] <intelikey> Blake79 now test.
[06:10] <C|int> I'm going to go with an ASUS, and AMD as well, dual core
[06:10] <ebernales> Hola. alguien habla espaol?
[06:10] <C|int> or I'll go with the board thats been good to me, Mach Speed, lifetime gurantee :)
[06:10] <joserafael> s, yo hablo
[06:10] <Mysta> !ESP
[06:10] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mysta
[06:11] <Mysta> !SP
[06:11] <ubotu> Mysta: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:11] <C|int> rob, from a town outside of my city
[06:11] <Blake79> nope.   KRAP!  only me......lol  I don't even want to see mplayer until i can access my folders..This is supposed to be the easy part right
[06:11] <DianWei> Question: Is there a text file saved somewhere that tells me all the packages I have downloaded using apt-get ?
[06:11] <C|int> because AMD runs stable, and not too hot,
[06:11] <C|int> and its really configurable,
[06:11] <intelikey> Blake79 ?
[06:11] <amphi> !tell joserafael about es
[06:11] <intelikey> Blake79 ls -l /media
[06:11] <C|int> however thats just my opinion, I have been able to show stats, from intel and amd, so
[06:11] <ebernales> una ayuda, recien acabo de instalar ubuntu 5.10 y estoy tratando de instalar el juego UT2004!
[06:11] <Flannel> !es
[06:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:11] <intelikey> Blake79 don't flood
[06:12] <intelikey> Blake79 just the line with hda1 on is.
[06:12] <joserafael> thank you ubotu
[06:12] <intelikey> it
[06:12] <rob138> C|int would linux be able to utilize : Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 965 Dual-Core CPU w/HT Technology 3.73GHz 1066FSB 2x2MB Cache, 64 Bit
[06:12] <C|int> I have nothing against INtel, my laptop, is an Acer Aspire 3610, it has a celeron m
[06:12] <ebernales> me pide el cd2, pero no me deja abrir la bandeja. Sabes com se hace?
[06:12] <C|int> however, I am going get a diff 1
[06:12] <Blake79> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-05-16 16:16 cdrom0
[06:12] <Blake79> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-05-16 16:16 cdrom1
[06:12] <Blake79> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 2006-05-16 16:16 floppy -> floppy0
[06:12] <Blake79> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-05-16 16:16 floppy0
[06:12] <Blake79> dr-x------  1 root root 8192 2006-05-16 23:01 hda1
[06:12] <Blake79> krap
[06:12] <Flannel> sigh
[06:12] <amphi> joserafael: ubotu es un bot
[06:12] <intelikey> !flood
[06:12] <ubotu> flood is, like, for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org or #flood here on freenode.
[06:12] <C|int> yeah you should be okay
[06:12] <C|int> what linux system are you going to go with
[06:12] <intelikey> Blake79 you didn't umount it
[06:12] <joserafael> oh sorry, im new on icr
[06:13] <Mysta> anyone know why ubuntu would lock up as soon as i boot up, after I've just installed lnux 686-smp???
[06:13] <amphi> C|int: a celery? are they still cacheless?
[06:13] <spazzz> If anyone has a moment I'd like some help setting SAMBA up on my computer please.  I've tried following the WIKI and it dosen't seem to want to behave
[06:13] <ebernales> Ok!
[06:13] <C|int> see, thats the thing, when you start to get into programming, and configuration, especially with linux, or unix, you can control the system, and thats what its all about, the hardware working with the OS, the OS controlling the hardware, and vice versa
[06:13] <sparkleytone> celery hasnt been cacheless since the first rev
[06:13] <intelikey> blake scroll up and look closely at the steps.  ^
[06:13] <ebernales> Ok
[06:13] <rob138> C|int ubuntu
[06:13] <ebernales> No hay problema!
[06:13] <spazzz> It keeps trying to ask me for Passwords for users that don't exist and I can't share out my printer
[06:13] <C|int> well, I thought SUSE 10.1 and Gentoo were going to be better
[06:13] <lendyl> help
[06:14] <C|int> I just couldn't stand being away from the debian based world.
[06:14] <rob138> C|int what?
[06:14] <C|int> and to tel truth, ubuntu was a nice migration from, debian, and Xandros
[06:14] <amphi> sparkleytone: oh; so why are they cheaper? just smaller caches?
[06:14] <sparkleytone> amphi: ya smaller cache, usually lower fsb
[06:14] <Blake79> dr-x------  1 root root 8192 2006-05-16 23:01 hda1
[06:14] <Blake79>   ---how about now, i tried again
[06:14] <spazzz> Anyone please?
[06:14] <amphi> sparkleytone: uhuh, thanks
[06:14] <C|int> 2 each have there own opinion though, and you might want to try other distributions out, me probably next year, I am going take a kernel, or maybe be into FreeBSD the more better it gets,
[06:15] <iiiears> We will be happy to help where we can - but our spanish is very bad there are several Ubuntu IRC channels for other languages. !es is only one.
[06:15] <DianWei> Another Question: If I install the beta, when the real release comes out next month, will I be able to switch over with no changes to my important stuff?
[06:15] <iiiears> !es
[06:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:15] <C|int> with unix, FreeBSD, you don't have to rely on the kernel being updated
[06:15] <C|int> however, I'm waiting, because of the hardware I have,
[06:15] <Flannel> DianWei: you'll switch over with nothing except updating.
[06:15] <intelikey> Blake79 you did edit fstab ?
[06:15] <DianWei> Coolness.
[06:15] <Flannel> DianWei: no reinstall, just updates, like the normal security updates.
[06:15] <C|int> so, probably I'm going to get myself into some , hiking, fishing , bike trails, and other things :)
[06:15] <rob138> does linux use Physics Processing Units? dumb question?
[06:15] <Blake79> yes, it shows 133 and 022 respectiely
[06:16] <C|int> I am not an expert
[06:16] <amphi> rob138: ?
[06:16] <C|int> with linux, or unix, only been using it since 2004
[06:16] <intelikey> Blake79 do;  grep 'hda1' /etc/fstab
[06:16] <rob138> amphi: ASUS PhysX P1 Card powered by AGEIA PhysX processor 128MB PCI()
[06:16] <C|int> I'm a Microsoft Developer, on other terms, however, its the money, and I cross platform it, with ubuntu,
[06:16] <C|int> Systems Engineer, Networks, etc
[06:16] <patch> |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
[06:16] <C|int> its defanately by far, a stable system though
[06:16] <spazzz> Anyone please?
[06:17] <Blake79> /dev/hda1   /media/hda1  ntfs defaults,ro,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0
[06:17] <amphi> rob138: no idea - google would know, probably
[06:17] <C|int> I love its hardware detection
[06:17] <C|int> rob,
[06:17] <conte> Can anyone help me with wireless card woes? I have a pci card, the driver is set up, it says it works out-of-the-box on the wiki but for some reason I can't get an IP address (dhcp)
[06:17] <C|int> you mean for like CAD, ansys or something?
[06:17] <intelikey> Blake79 ok. now   sudo umount /media/hda1
[06:17] <intelikey> you never have unmount it yet.
[06:17] <C|int> hey amphi
[06:18] <rob138> C|int i have no idea
[06:18] <Blake79> ok, i post this.   But it doesn't give me a confirmation that anything was done
[06:18] <amphi> C|int: you rang? ;)
[06:18] <Blake79> it seems like it took it
[06:18] <intelikey> Blake79 hit the up arrow and run the same command again
[06:18] <C|int> hey amphi , when I get back, you think you could help me troubleshoot my configuration and installation of wireless ndiswrapper, and my driver, broadcom, I did everything, and checked, something isn't right for some reason, maybe because I'm using DApper, eh , maybe I should put breezy in, however, I'm getting so far with dap
[06:18] <intelikey> Blake79 that will confirm
[06:18] <amphi> conte: what happens if you run dhclient manually?
[06:18] <Blake79> def took it.  not mounted
[06:18] <spazzz> Does anyone know anything about configureing Samba to share a printer and folders on an Ubuntu Machine with Windows Boxes on a local home LAN
[06:18] <james_xxx> so dapper drake is to be released in a few weeks.... are ubuntu upgrades usually fairly seamless, or can they be kind of complicated?
[06:19] <Mysta> im trying to install linux-686-smp, but it wants to intstall other packages as well, are they necessary?
[06:19] <intelikey> Blake79 now do the same thing but take the U off of it
[06:19] <amphi> C|int: I have no experience of ndiswrapper
[06:19] <smallfoot-> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/5_fluxbox-2.JPG
[06:19] <C|int> also, I am going take, VMware, workstation, and techSmith camtasia studio, and show users how to work with ubuntu, and the network side of things, and record it in real time,
[06:19] <smallfoot-> so nice
[06:19] <intelikey> Blake79 ok. now   sudo mount /media/hda1    <--- like that
[06:19] <amphi> james_xxx: should be a simple upgrade
[06:20] <Mysta> Clint: vmware can record sessions, and output them to AVI
[06:20] <C|int> i know xvidcap can do things, however I have to use TS, because I can make video formats into so much, even high definition
[06:20] <spazzz> Does anyone know anything about configureing Samba to share a printer and folders on an Ubuntu Machine with Windows Boxes on a local home LAN?
[06:20] <hflappy> i keep gettin this [wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device]    ...when i do    wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta
[06:20] <C|int> mysta, I knwo
[06:20] <C|int> Mysta, , I know
[06:20] <hflappy> can someone tell me how to fix....
[06:20] <hflappy> gotta get this card up
[06:20] <amphi> !tell spazzz about samba
[06:20] <C|int> however, it can't make them into alot of diff media formast
[06:20] <C|int> formats
[06:20] <C|int> right off the bat
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> spazzz,  read that 'using samba book' thats avail on line.. i think the samba configs are set to do that allready.
[06:20] <james_xxx> amphi, ty , i was hoping that would be the case
[06:20] <C|int> unless you were to convert them
[06:20] <Blake79> OK i did it, and confirmed.mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/hda1 busy
[06:20] <iiiears> spazz - If there isn't help here you can always ask ubotu. "!samba"
[06:20] <amphi> spazzz: the oreilly url should be of use
[06:20] <C|int> so ;)
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> spazzz,  you want linux to be the print server right?
[06:20] <Mysta> i take mine back to windows, very easy process
[06:20] <intelikey> Blake79 test,      and again sorry for the tail spin.
[06:20] <C|int> i use techSmith, because I'm building a site, etc
[06:21] <spazzz> Dr_Willis: Correct.  I already looked through the WIKI but I think I missed one of those articles.
[06:21] <C|int> hi Mysta , btw :)
[06:21] <Mysta> hello
[06:21] <spazzz> Let me browse through it and see if I missed something.
[06:21] <amphi> C|int: mencoder is useful for conversion
[06:21] <C|int> was hillarious, only way I was able to get linux on wireless was to run VMware workstation lol
[06:21] <C|int> and windows as my host :P
[06:21] <C|int> too bad I can't copy the infrastructure yet.. :P
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> spazzz,  install the samba packages.. and configure the printers..  you may need to edit the samba config file..  but i dont think so.
[06:22] <Blake79> It doesn't give me the error, but nothing shows up
[06:22] <C|int> yet** ;)
[06:22] <patch> patch will go to the bed thank's alot ! see you !
[06:22] <Blake79> File system has folders, when i click on hda1, nothing
[06:22] <Blake79> <chcking disc manager>
[06:22] <C|int> you see though
[06:22] <C|int> I'm almost there with, CodeWeavers Cross Over office 5 pro., with TechSmith Camtasia Studio on nix :P
[06:22] <C|int> when I get it done, I will be like, :D :D :D
[06:23] <Blake79> <still showing up under discs, just can't do anything with it>
[06:23] <sciyoshi> hey everyone, i've been working on a 'windows to linux' migration program... right now I have a script that takes your bookmarks from IE in a windows partition and puts them in firefox. id be grateful if other people with dual boots could try it out :-) so i can improve on it... the script is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14156
[06:23] <amphi> C|int: what is camtasia? video editing?
[06:24] <intelikey> Blake79 you can read from it now.  as to the gui end of that.  i'll let someone that uses gui help streighten that out.   it would'nt hurt to logout and back in.  (no reboot needed, this is not M$ reboot this is linux)
[06:24] <C|int> real time , record screen etc
[06:24] <Blake79> says - 0 items at the bottom
[06:24] <Mysta> amphi: its a screen recorder
[06:24] <C|int> I was into it, before I was really into linux environments, on windows
[06:24] <amphi> Mysta: ah, thanks
[06:24] <C|int> I have the latest, TEchSmith camtasia, I'm just trying to configure it with CodeWeavers CrossOver, and I have to figure some things out,
[06:24] <C|int> www.techsmith.com
[06:24] <C|int> you can see for yourself
[06:25] <amphi> C|int: no windows here, no point ;)
[06:25] <NoUse> sciyoshi if I used IE I would try it
[06:25] <C|int> I make presentations, for people at my college, etc, and for web,
[06:25] <grapefruit> hey we're trying to build (another) linux community, if your interested join #penguinslair
[06:25] <C|int> I could like you see, make an ubuntu commercial if I wanted too
[06:25] <C|int> in high definition
[06:25] <C|int> so whats google video..
[06:25] <Blake79> lol...OK, new to logging out.  I'm not sure if i did or not, it brought me right back here
[06:26] <C|int> its just 10% of half way there :)
[06:26] <amphi> C|int: not so good, making it with unfree tools ;)
[06:26] <Blake79> can i use terminal to copy folders from hda1 over to the linux side?
[06:26] <C|int> well, its a matter of choice
[06:26] <intelikey> Blake79 absolutly
[06:26] <C|int> remember what Agent smith asked Neo, why do you keep persisting, why why why,,
[06:26] <spazzz> Ok the WIKI says to install SAMBA.  According to apt-get it already is.  It says go to the NETWORKING screen and select the GENERAL TAB imput my host name and Domain.  It then says to Check the box maked "Enable Windows Networking"  That Checkbox dosen't seem to exist on my screen
[06:26] <C|int> Its simple, its because I choose too :)
[06:26] <Mysta> unfree tools?
[06:26] <Blake79> so, problem is resolved, just a gui issue at this point
[06:26] <C|int> I bought Techsmith lmao
[06:26] <intelikey> Blake79 cp=copy  man cp is the manual on it.
[06:27] <C|int> I can do what I want with it
[06:27] <amphi> Mysta: camtasia is not free sw
[06:27] <Blake79> who is the resident gui expert?
[06:27] <Mysta> ok?
[06:27] <Mysta> but its worth paying for
[06:27] <ebernales> How to install UT2004 in ubuntu?
[06:27] <Rug> Howdy all
[06:27] <C|int> yep ;)
[06:27] <intelikey> Blake79 also mc is a very good cli file manager.
[06:27] <intelikey> it's in the repos.
[06:28] <intelikey> !repos
[06:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:28] <Rug> Can I empty my /var/cache/apt/ dir?  It's got more then 1.5GB of data in there.
[06:28] <ebernales> I can't insert CD2
[06:28] <intelikey> !info mc
[06:28] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[06:28] <amphi> Rug: yes; do apt-get clean
[06:28] <Rug> amphi: thanks
[06:28] <amphi> Rug: with sudo, of course ;)
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[06:28] <ubotu> I guess apt-get is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[06:28] <Rug> har, yeah of course!
[06:29] <iiiears> ebernales - there is a *.sh file on the UT2k4 disk. sh file.sh   in a terminal will start it.
[06:29] <Mysta> amphi: u know much about linux-686-smp?
[06:29] <sciyoshi> nouse: yea, i was thinking it might be useful on for new users that install ubuntu, like an option to import settings from windows
[06:29] <amphi> Mysta: nope, only uniprocessor here :(
[06:30] <Blake79> cp: `disk': specified destination directory does not exist
[06:30] <Mysta> k thanks
[06:30] <ebernales> thanks iiears! buy when CD1 finally....I can't insert CD2... not open CD!!!
[06:30] <spazzz> Dr_Willis: This WIKI isn't helping me at all.  I've been through all the steps it's recommending me and its still not wanting to work.  First off it dosen't contain the "Enable Windows Networking" tickbox.  Secondly when I try to login to the network it asks me for a password.  The WIKI tells me to use my same USER ID and Password that i'm logged in with.  That does not work.
[06:30] <C|int> intel amphi ?
[06:30] <amphi> C|int: yeah, stinkpad
[06:30] <ebernales> thanks iiears! but when CD1 finally....I can't insert CD2... not open CD!!!
[06:30] <jhenn> anyone have any experience geeting ralink cards working under ubuntu?
[06:31] <C|int> oh hee
[06:31] <C|int> pentium class, or eh celeron?
[06:31] <amphi> jhenn: I got one working under debian for a friend of mine; IIRC the module built without difficulty
[06:31] <grapefruit> jhenn: ask in #penguinslair they have knowledgable ubuntu users
[06:31] <amphi> C|int: pentium m
[06:31] <intelikey> ebernales sudo eject
[06:31] <C|int> nice
[06:31] <Mysta> uh, TROLL?
[06:32] <C|int> I wish I had a pentium m, instead of a dam celeron m, in this Acer Aspire
[06:32] <C|int> I'm not tripping though
[06:32] <C|int> I am going get me the next generation of laptops,
[06:32] <jhenn> amphi: do you have to rebuild the entire kernel or just built the module and do modprobe?
[06:32] <amphi> C|int: I found a nice 'undervolting' patch for it
[06:32] <C|int> and give this  1 to my gf
[06:32] <iiiears> ebernales - annoying isn't it. - sigh - erm i am fairly new to linux so don't know very much. - the eject command in a terminal should help.
[06:32] <C|int> oh yeah?
[06:32] <Draconicus> #ubuntu+1 isn't being very helpful right now. I've installed xscreensaver in Dapper, but it's missing the majority of the standard screensavers. What gives? Where can I get the rest?
[06:32] <C|int> what do you have, an IBM?
[06:32] <Blake79> IT'S THERE!!!  INTELIKEY IT SHOWED UP!!
[06:33] <C|int> do you got dedicated graphics card?
[06:33] <C|int> my workstation is nice, however I'm not talking workstation :)
[06:33] <amphi> C|int: yeah - it used to go over 70C under load according to acpi -t; now it barely reaches 50C, idles at 32 or so
[06:33] <C|int> dam
[06:33] <C|int> can you help me do that to mines?
[06:33] <ToolPackinMama> Hi everybody
[06:33] <C|int> or is that only for certain cpu's
[06:33] <Rug> ToolPackinMama: Hiya
[06:34] <spazzz> #$%@ Why won't this work!
[06:34] <ToolPackinMama> Ubuntu is really easy,I like it
[06:34] <amphi> C|int: I can dig out a url, hang on
[06:34] <grapefruit> ToolPackinMama: check out #penguinslair
[06:34] <C|int> intelikey, , um, because they look good, and fun to teaze window users, with there minimal choices :-)
[06:34] <iiiears> Blake79 - Outstanding! :)  (Begins to dance around the chair pauses with the realization there is no reason to understanding why it didn't work without the fuss)
[06:34] <ToolPackinMama> I installed kubuntu all by myself like a big girl!  LOL
[06:34] <C|int> cough cough, and spyware free :-)
[06:34] <Rug> ToolPackinMama: congrats!
[06:35] <barachie> hello
[06:35] <spazzz> Dr_Willis?  Somebody please help
[06:35] <Blake79> well, i spoke to soon.  sorry i was under discs when i got the icons.  and hda1 on desktop is givng me error again.   I should just go to bed.
[06:35] <amphi> C|int: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Pentium_M_undervolting_and_underclocking
[06:35] <Rug> spazzz: Ask your question.
[06:35] <iiiears> nalioth - Hello! - Thank You for making the transition to Ubuntu easier.
[06:35] <C|int> I don't have a pentium m though
[06:35] <ToolPackinMama> I'm a windows user that has tried several distros.  Ubuntu is great
[06:35] <spazzz> Rug: I have...... Several times
[06:35] <C|int> I agree with you ToolPackinMama ,
[06:35] <C|int> I am still a window user, :-)
[06:36] <C|int> I"m back and forth, because I work with maxon, 3d cad, and rhino3d and a peer to peer. filetopia :-)
[06:36] <spazzz> Rug: But agian.... I'm trying to get Samba to work so that my Ubuntu maching can share Printers and FIles with windows box's on my local network
[06:36] <Rug> spazzz: I just got here, I might be able to help
[06:36] <ToolPackinMama> I perfer KDE to gnome
[06:36] <C|int> thats how I was ToolPackinMama
[06:36] <amphi> C|int: might work with a celery, dunno - does it have freq scaling?
[06:36] <ToolPackinMama> Probably cos that'swhat I used with SuSE
[06:36] <C|int> now I'm the exact opposite, gnome,/ fluxbox, / enlightenment
[06:36] <C|int> brb, I forgot all about my hot sopu
[06:36] <C|int> soup*
[06:37] <spazzz> I've read the WIKI... It dosen't help.  First off the controls it tells me to check and whatnot don't seem to even exist.  Secondly the system login doesn't behave as expected.  It says use my User ID and password to login to the workgroup but it will not allow it
[06:37] <grapefruit> C|int: have you been to #penguinslair
[06:37] <ToolPackinMama> I want to reconfig my hardware:  my vid and sound aren
[06:37] <Mysta> grapefruit: u aight?
[06:37] <ToolPackinMama> aren'tright
[06:37] <Madpilot> grapefruit, please stop spamming for other channels here - thanks.
[06:37] <amphi> spazzz: try the oreilly book in the factoid
[06:37] <Mysta> yea please stop
[06:37] <grapefruit> Mysta: we need your help
[06:37] <Mysta> this channel needs my help too
[06:37] <Mysta> and i need its help as well
[06:37] <amphi> grapefruit: you know where to find him ;)
[06:38] <spazzz> amphi: I don't know enough to be able to resolve my issue with that kind of general pourpose material.  I've tried editiont he config file manual from other sources
[06:38] <spazzz> I get the the same result
[06:38] <iiiears> amphi lol@amphi
[06:38] <nalioth> iiiears: i'm glad to help
[06:38] <grapefruit> Mysta: can you idle #penguinslair
[06:38] <Mysta> should I really answer that?
[06:38] <Madpilot> grapefruit, last warning about spamming. Any more and I kick you.
[06:39] <intelikey> and that's about all you can do with shrimp
[06:39] <ToolPackinMama> does the amd 64 version fully utilize the CPU?
[06:40] <ToolPackinMama> I have an Athlon64 sys I bult myself, and I dl'd the 64 version
[06:40] <spazzz> So much for user friendly
[06:40] <Blake79> intel...hot new development.  (starting to get the hang of it.   Under Discs i can access my hda1.  So i copy to my desktop, nothing shows up.  I copy to the root desktop, and it works.  Then i can copy from root to my own.  and then it shows up.  (does that make any sense?)
[06:41] <C|int> a channel in need of help?
[06:41] <intelikey> Blake79 i'm sure it would to a gnomer :)
[06:41] <amphi> spazzz: there's swat, a gui samba configurator, FWIW
[06:41] <iiiears> Blake79 - disk ownership is still askew. - :s
[06:41] <intelikey> Blake79 i hardly ever start a gui.
[06:42] <Ademan> hey a while back someone told me how to restart vsftpd... it was like <somescript>.d restart vsftpd
[06:42] <C|int> I'm no penguin though :-)
[06:42] <C|int> I'm universal
[06:42] <ToolPackinMama> How to reconfig my vid/monitor settings?
[06:42] <amphi> Ademan: sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart probably
[06:42] <FunnyLookinHat> Ademan, /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[06:42] <C|int> ToolPackinMama, ,
[06:42] <Blake79> if i knew the langage i wouldn't mind bypassing it.
[06:42] <FunnyLookinHat> ooh yea, dont forget the sudo
[06:42] <C|int> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:42] <C|int> I beleive
[06:42] <vompatti> Is it possible that i have 64 bit processor but still my other hardware isnt good for 64 bit distro and thats why it wont work ?
[06:42] <ToolPackinMama> I'm new to this.
[06:42] <intelikey> iiiears the disk is mounted correctly. he has full read access.  i don't know why the gui is not working right for him.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> spazzz,  it pays to read that 'using samba book' thats avilable online -
[06:42] <ToolPackinMama> what's a sudo?
[06:42] <C|int> i'm working with dap.s o
[06:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ToolPackinMama about fixres
[06:43] <Ademan> thanks both
[06:43] <Blake79> So i think i've installed wrong.  I miht have to format and re-install.... It is saying i have 8.5gb on my desktop max....
[06:43] <C|int> its based off unix system
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> !aamba
[06:43] <C|int> to let the command have super privilegers
[06:43] <Madpilot> ToolPackinMama, "sudo" gets you root privs. temporarily
[06:43] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis
[06:43] <ToolPackinMama> do I type that in terminal?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[06:43] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[06:43] <iiiears> ToolPackinMama, - kill the xserver first killall gdm then  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ToolPackinMama about sudo
[06:43] <C|int> you can always do this if y wanted,   sudo su -
[06:43] <Blake79> So i have a question about how i should partition the drive with the swap spaces and everything. What is ideal.
[06:43] <ToolPackinMama> oh super user
[06:43] <Blake79> I have a 40gb hard drive.  pretty much dedicated
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> Blake79,  depends on your system and needs.
[06:43] <C|int> that will get you in t total root console, however ubuntu" recommend sudo
[06:43] <ToolPackinMama> you have to type sudo?
[06:43] <amphi> Blake79: a separate /home partition is a good idea
[06:43] <C|int> yep
[06:43] <Madpilot> ToolPackinMama, you should have a two pms from the bot - check those URLs
[06:43] <intelikey> Blake79 try,  open nautilus  navigate to /media/hda1/something/  and see if you can do things that way.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Blake79,  you can get by with just a / and a swap partition. that works for me 90% of the time
[06:44] <ToolPackinMama> ok
[06:44] <C|int> tool, open a console
[06:44] <C|int> and like example   ubuntu@console:~# sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:44] <ToolPackinMama> thanks
[06:44] <iiiears> Blake79 - 1.5 - 2.0 times ram for swap and at least 5 Gigabytes for Ubuntu.
[06:44] <amphi> Dr_Willis: not even separate /home?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> amphi,  rarely. :P
[06:44] <amphi> heh
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> amphi,  i got a file server i keep most of my /home work on :P
[06:44] <spazzz> Dr. Willis: Ok... *sighs* It's obvious theres a RTFM mentality here.  I've tried telling people that 1. I don't have time to read a general pourpose book when I have a specific issue.  And 2. I'm not knowlageable enough to take theroy and turn it into practice.  I guess my only recorse is to just go back to windows because it works though I hate to do that because I have Microsoft, Spyware and i'll miss Evolution.
[06:44] <ToolPackinMama> I'll try it now
[06:45] <intelikey> Blake79 ideal is the way it works best for you.  best is subjective. you can ask for other peoples openions and you will get a sluth pot full of them.
[06:45] <amphi> spazzz: the book is conveniently divided into chapters addressing different topics
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> spazzz,  have fun then. or put forth some effort and read that book. i learnd a lot from it. I dont do samba printers so i cant walk ya through it.
[06:45] <C|int> hey amphi ,
[06:45] <Blake79> well my problem, i just copied a folder from hda1 to my desktop, and it said destination full....
[06:45] <C|int> speaking of that, I'm reconfiguring mine.. would ya say I need framebuffer, on an Acer Aspire with integrated graphics
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> spazzz,  by chapter 3 i knew all i needed to know about samba. its rather easy to get it going. but theres a lot of 'gotchyas'
[06:46] <amphi> C|int: for X?
[06:46] <Blake79> it was around 9 gb.....so ideally, i'd like to have 20gb worth of space.... on a 40gb harddrive, doesn't sound unreasonable
[06:46] <C|int> yep
[06:46] <Blake79> :)
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> IcemanV9,  depends on what you want to do.
[06:46] <Blake79> so if i format the drive, and re-install i want to partition the first to?  fat32 and 20GB?
[06:46] <C|int> you got vmplayer for ubuntu?
[06:46] <Blake79> then partition again for the swap area (or something?)
[06:46] <amphi> C|int: dunno, there seems to be some vagueness; some drivers like fb, some hate it. Try, and see what works for you ;)
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> xen is sort of designed with different tasks in mind then qemu and vmplayer
[06:47] <C|int> I got VMware workstation, , I want some help maybe installing it hee
[06:47] <iiiears> spazz - Don't feel too bad. - I hate configuring samba. one typo and it just won't wrok.
[06:47] <C|int> I got my linux hearders installed o.o
[06:47] <IcemanV9> Dr_Willis: i am looking for speed to test a few OS
[06:47] <C|int> oh hee lol
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  :)  he gave up.. in the time he complained - i could of read most of that book.
[06:47] <C|int> um.. try... ;P
[06:47] <Madpilot> C|int, linux herders? ;)
[06:47] <Blake79> what do you think intelikey? i see what your saying on objective, but maybe part of my problem is the way i installed?
[06:47] <C|int> hi maddler
[06:47] <amphi> C|int: toss a coin ;)
[06:47] <C|int> Madpilot, *
[06:47] <Blake79> *Subjctive, ooops
[06:47] <C|int> lmao
[06:47] <intelikey> Blake79 how about 19g vfat hda1 19.5g ext3 /hda2 /  and swap the other 1.5g  ?
[06:48] <C|int> lmao @ toss a coin
[06:48] <C|int> nah :P
[06:48] <C|int> well I guess I can always reconfigure if all fails :P
[06:48] <ebernales> iiiears ...thanks sudo eject OK, but don't refresh information in CDROM!
[06:48] <Blake79> can i repartition without the re-install?
[06:48] <amphi> C|int: it either won't matter much either way, or it'll be obvious that you made the wrong decision ;)
[06:48] <C|int> lol
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  whats scary - is that i thought the default ubuntu samba configs shared the printers  from the start.
[06:48] <intelikey> no
[06:49] <Blake79> ok, i'm going for it.   See ya....
[06:49] <elohayelohim> detect LAN Printers doesnt work?
[06:49] <iiiears> Dr_Willis - True. I have read and googled more for a linux install than anything else period. (including porn - lol)Ubuntu  is pretty easy compared to other linuxes but still isn't flawless.
[06:49] <C|int> lol
[06:49] <C|int> hey iiiears
[06:49] <intelikey> Blake79 but if you make vfat  (fat32)  you have read write access to that.  it's ntfs that shouldn't be written to.
[06:49] <C|int> PC BSD and DesktopBSD install in 10 minutes, and are virtually easy to install and painless : P
[06:49] <C|int> although, thats FreeBSD under da hood : P
[06:50] <Draconicus> Hmm... Let's ask a question the idiotic way: Where are my screensavers?
[06:50] <iiiears> Dr_Willis - True. - Had no problems here. everything works. - but configuring Ubuntu to handle network printing for windows requires you install from the web and that can be painful to get working.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  i just love how its 'our' fault we dont/cant hand hold someone - when theres very very very good docs out on a topic.
[06:51] <C|int> it was a long ride, waiting PC BSD 1.0 official, however, some acpi problems for my hardware , not with DesktopBSd, though, but sound problems, so, might try FreeBSD 6.1 and create parittion for it, or on my workstation, I use Acronis Disk Director suite , so ,
[06:51] <amphi> Dr_Willis: a whole bloody book
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  i think ya just install the samba packages and cups. and thats it. :P my printer is on its own network print-server.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> amphi,  a very well done book. :P with pictures even
[06:51] <jhenn> what wireless card does ubuntu recommend?
[06:51] <C|int> hey amphi , or anyone, into FreeBSD at all, ?
[06:51] <amphi> jhenn: you still haven't got the ralink to work?
[06:51] <jhenn> amphi: no
[06:52] <amphi> C|int: I've messed about with netbsd a bit
[06:52] <amphi> jhenn: what's the problem?
[06:52] <C|int> jhenn, , its not about recommendation, I hear, Orinoco, is great for linux, and even unix
[06:52] <Mahmoud_> Draconicus: System > Screensaver
[06:52] <C|int> I know this slackware user, he has an Orinoco, and it works great
[06:52] <amphi> C|int: the ralink has a gpl driver
[06:52] <C|int> all he had to do, is install the drivers for it, bam
[06:52] <Orborde> Where would I go to suggest a package for the Ubuntu repos?
[06:52] <Mahmoud_> Draconicus: System > Preferences* > Screensaver
[06:52] <jhenn> amphi: ubuntu doesn't see it on install
[06:52] <C|int> oh cool Amaranth
[06:52] <C|int> amphi,
[06:52] <C|int> whats really good eh
[06:53] <amphi> jhenn: you may have to get the source tarball and build it yourself
[06:53] <C|int> i need to get me a pcmcia, because I can't seem to get my broadcom working, and I did everything the forum site said
[06:53] <amphi> jhenn: which is not difficult
[06:53] <C|int> or I could go usb, don't matter
[06:53] <jhenn> amphi: okay can i just build the module and install it?
[06:53] <IcemanV9> C|int: i use fbsd if you cares :)
[06:53] <jonx> how would i go about updating the software
[06:53] <C|int> virtually though, I'm going Gig Range max, so
[06:53] <cyphase> as much as i detest windows, i wish microsoft would include support for zeroconf in vista
[06:53] <C|int> I do :)
[06:53] <iiiears> Dr_Willis - Printing for me was smooth. gutenprint is a wonderful project.  samba server configuration was a typographic minefield. easy only if you dot all the "I's" and cross all the "T's"
[06:53] <Draconicus> Mahmoud_: Okay. Now to put it the intelligent way to get the correct answer. I've installed xscreensaver in Dapper. Before you so kindly and carelessly redirect me, I'd like you to at least attempt to help me. The xscreensaver package on its own has installed very few default screensavers. I can't seem to find the proper package to get the rest. Do you have any useful input regarding this?
[06:54] <amphi> jhenn: you'll need the kernel-headers package at least, if not the kernel source; I'd try with the kernel-headers first
[06:54] <C|int> I like the fact, of being able to control your own code,
[06:54] <C|int> very inspired by the whole, FreeBSD concept, however my hardware isn't right now lol
[06:54] <jonx> how would i update all the software using apt in ubuntu?
[06:54] <jhenn> amphi: well how am i going to download the kernel source if i don't have internet?
[06:54] <C|int> jonx
[06:54] <amphi> jhenn: I built it on a machine with a kernel I built on it, so I had a full source tree anyway
[06:54] <amphi> jhenn: you have no ethernet?
[06:54] <IcemanV9> C|int: i have triple boot: winxp, fbsd, ubuntu
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  im not even sure if the default samba config has a [printer]  entry. :P mine is so tweaked by me and i removed most of the comments
[06:54] <C|int> example:   ->  ubuntu@console:~# sudo apt-get update    , followed by, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:54] <jhenn> amphi: nope
[06:55] <C|int> there ya go jhenn
[06:55] <cyphase> Draconicus, xscreensaver-data
[06:55] <richiefrich> or do ao   sujdfo -Hs
[06:55] <Draconicus> cyphase: That's also installed. Still no screensavers.
[06:55] <C|int> well, I had 6 at 1 tim ice
[06:55] <richiefrich> or do ao   sudfo -Hs
[06:55] <C|int> thanks to , lovely Acronis :-)
[06:55] <richiefrich> then u need no more sudo
[06:55] <cyphase> Draconicus, xscreensaver-data-extra as well
[06:55] <C|int> hi IcemanV9  :-)
[06:55] <thomasM> hey guys i need to get hal-resmgr working, any tips or directions?
[06:55] <Draconicus> cyphase: I've got that, too.
[06:55] <amphi> jhenn: are kernel-headers on the install cd?
[06:56] <C|int> you think your 3 got me lmao
[06:56] <IcemanV9> C|int: ha. you must have a very large HD :)
[06:56] <C|int> I was tempted to install 100 operating systems, just becuase I could do it lmao
[06:56] <cyphase> Drcaonicus, and you see no screensavers?
[06:56] <C|int> but thats a waste of time
[06:56] <C|int> :P
[06:56] <C|int> www.acronis.com
[06:56] <amphi> jhenn: the module source is small, you could just d/l that on another box and stick it on a usb stick
[06:56] <Draconicus> cyphase: There are a few, but very few, and definitely not all that come installed with Breezy.
[06:56] <Mysta> acronis ROX!
[06:56] <C|int> see the , Disk Director Suite, see what I'm talkin about
[06:56] <intelikey> Draconicus if i did have. you would have heard the first time.    but i have noticed that with some dapper packages i have to apt-get -f install    do finish them.
[06:56] <Ademan> when someone logs into vsftp as a local user, do they have the permissions of that local user? or do they have the default ftp account's permission?
[06:56] <IcemanV9> lol. just pick one and be a productive with it :P
[06:56] <cyphase> Draconicus, in xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver?
[06:56] <iiiears> c|int - Disk imaging is the only way to go. :) Acronis is the best.
[06:56] <C|int> I can't :)
[06:57] <amphi> iiiears: dd ? ;)
[06:57] <jonx> C|int, thanks
[06:57] <C|int> I know Acronis is good, I been using it for 3 years
[06:57] <C|int> for the Disk Director Suite, and image :)
[06:57] <Draconicus> cyphase: I removed gnome-screensaver.
[06:57] <cyphase> Draconicus, well, i don't know
[06:57] <iiiears> amphi - dd is okay it has it's place - you still need to rip and copy bootsectors. Acronis is faster.
[06:57] <C|int> Symantec, Partition Magic, is nothing but a conspiracy theory, along with all its products :D
[06:58] <Draconicus> cyphase: Ah! They're all here now. They just took a while to kick in, I guess. :P
[06:58] <C|int> and me , and 100 people agree :D
[06:58] <cyphase> Draconicus, maybe you should have restarted the screensaver daemon
[06:58] <C|int> jonx, yvw :)
[06:58] <cyphase> Draconicus, although it seems it reloads :)
[06:58] <IcemanV9> gparted is good and FREE to use
[06:58] <Draconicus> cyphase: Perhaps. Regardless, they're there now. Problem solved itself.
[06:58] <C|int> good for gparted :-)
[06:59] <C|int> I already found out about it, after I was already using" Acronis :-)
[06:59] <iiiears> amphi - dd is excellent for creating mountable CD images
[06:59] <amphi> iiiears: dd is useful for all kinds of things
[07:00] <iiiears> partimage promised the same functionality as Acronis. - i just can't get it to work relibly.
[07:00] <C|int> isn't it nice though, being on open source, gives ya that superior feeling like ;)
[07:00] <IcemanV9> C|int: just curious; how good are pcbsd & desktopbsd? i never use them. just pure fbsd. :)
[07:01] <C|int> not very stable m8
[07:01] <intelikey> it seems that the last upgrade nuked my xorg.conf
[07:01] <intelikey> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
[07:01] <intelikey> No core pointer
[07:01] <C|int> well, I didn't work with it much, because for me, its more of a hardware issue
[07:01] <C|int> talk to you in bit though
[07:02] <C|int> hey IcemanV9 , you got any wireless experience bud
[07:02] <intelikey> hehhe and i used the mouse to paste that so i don't think it's a mouse error
[07:02] <IcemanV9> C|int: yea. just curious about it, that's all.
[07:02] <C|int> I did everything a forum told me, and directions, although some kinds of things not working with my acer, aspire, broadcom, I think it small,
[07:02] <richiefrich> intelikey, u in X ?\
[07:02] <IcemanV9> C|int: yea with ath0
[07:02] <C|int> well, PC BSD, 1.0 official. really nice, for KDE on FreeBSD 6.0
[07:03] <C|int> they need to get there repositories, and slap da chit out of them though ;)
[07:03] <C|int> stuff with, pbi and stuff
[07:03] <richiefrich> C|int,  i think you'd liink archlinux also
[07:03] <IcemanV9> C|int: ath0 works "out of the box" on fbsd & ubuntu; i was pleased with it. :)
[07:03] <C|int> at least though, you can get a FreeBSD up in KDE< in 10 minutes
[07:04] <C|int> nice
[07:04] <DianWei> I am so happy I got a two gigabyte usb drive from work. Makes backing everything up so much nicer. :D
[07:04] <C|int> thats atheros right?
[07:04] <intelikey> richiefrich no console
[07:04] <C|int> i hear alot of good on it
[07:04] <IcemanV9> C|int: i can test in qemu or xen (when i settle on one of those)
[07:04] <richiefrich> intelikey, then u have a xorg.conf error
[07:04] <_daniel_> I need the Perl XML parser module
[07:04] <IcemanV9> C|int: yes, it is.
[07:04] <_daniel_> anyone knows the package name ?
[07:05] <intelikey> richiefrich actually udev error.
[07:05] <C|int> richiefrich, , already was researching into it..
[07:05] <intelikey> no /dev/input/*
[07:05] <C|int> you use it?
[07:05] <richiefrich> C|int, yes
[07:05] <C|int> how does it work with Acer's
[07:05] <intelikey> moving to /dev/psaux fixed it.
[07:05] <richiefrich> intelikey, u mean evdev ?
[07:06] <intelikey> i think i said what i meant,  but feel free to educate me.
[07:06] <amphi> intelikey: you don't use gpm?
[07:06] <C|int> I really don't want to leave my debian world though, I've tested so many diff linux systems, and unix systems its not even funny
[07:06] <richiefrich> C|int, was that for me ?
[07:06] <C|int> thanks though :-)
[07:06] <intelikey> amphi if i didn't i couldn't have pasted that ^
[07:07] <amphi> intelikey: didn't see it - but you don't use it as a repeater for X?
[07:07] <vompatti> Wee! got the xserver workin' :) Thanks for the guy who said dpkg-reconfigure :] 
[07:08] <intelikey> amphi it is setup to function as such.   but i don't know why really.  i can't be in x and console at the same time.   errr not actively.
[07:08] <richiefrich> C|int,  it's fast very fast
[07:08] <amphi> intelikey: it can be handy occasionally to be able to 'restart' the mouse in X
[07:09] <DianWei> Everyone wish me luck; I am headed into a strangely wonderful, but exotically terrifying new world!
[07:09] <amphi> DianWei: heh
[07:09] <vompatti> :o
[07:09] <intelikey> i'm going to go see if the upgrade helped the looks of the gui any.
[07:09] <intelikey> if i can find what tty x is in.
[07:10] <IcemanV9> _daniel_: is this what you're looking for? --> libxml-parser-perl - Perl module for parsing XML files
[07:10] <intelikey> ah it's 5
[07:11] <Mahmoud_> How can I add/install another language? (Breezy)
[07:11] <dli> Mahmoud_, ubuntu is international by itself :)
[07:12] <Mahmoud_> dli, yea I know but how I can add another language to write with. In the setup I chosen English. but I want to add another one
[07:12] <dli> Mahmoud_, sudo apt-get install scim
[07:12] <Centaur5> Is there a way to find out what caused my laptop to completely lock up?
[07:13] <dli> Centaur5, what is a "complete lock up"?
[07:13] <Centaur5> dli: I had to hold the power button til it shut off because nothing at all would work.  I was wondering if maybe something would be in a log file.
[07:14] <dli> Centaur5, weird, did you try to network?
[07:14] <Centaur5> dli: I was already connected to a network and I had firefox open but it was idle.
[07:14] <dli> Centaur5, could be a dead X, or cpu overheating
[07:15] <dli> Centaur5, no, can you connect to the machine via network?
[07:15] <Centaur5> dli: I have a laptop cooler with 2 fans blowing on it all the time.
[07:15] <Centaur5> dli: Oh, it's the only computer I have at home so I can't try that.
[07:16] <siccness> cd ..
[07:16] <dli> Centaur5, what were you doing when it happened? standard ubuntu kernel?
[07:16] <siccness> whoops, sorry
[07:16] <Centaur5> dli: It did this last night so I would like to see if it's a bug.
[07:16] <Centaur5> dli: I was listening to music with xmms, had gaim open but idle, firefox open but idle, and one terminal open
[07:17] <Centaur5> dli: Updates were installing and now I can't open the update manager (it installed all but 4)
[07:17] <dli> Centaur5, sounds okay, stable breezy?
[07:17] <Centaur5> dli: Dapper
[07:18] <Centaur5> dli: Standard smp kernel
[07:18] <dli> Centaur5, then, check for hardware problem (memtest86), but still go #ubuntu+1
[07:19] <s|k> is there anyway I can update my DHCP settings without rebooting?
[07:19] <Centaur5> dli: Alright, nothing would be in a log though?
[07:19] <zcat[1] > s|k: sudo hdclient
[07:19] <zcat[1] > err sudo dhclient
[07:19] <s|k> ok
[07:19] <s|k> lemme try it
[07:19] <s|k> I changed the domain name in dhclient.conf
[07:19] <s|k> so my router would have names for the computers on the LAN
[07:20] <dli> Centaur5, run memtest86 first
[07:20] <Centaur5> okay, I'll be back after it's done.
[07:22] <Ademan> how do you create a hard link?
[07:22] <crimsun> ln
[07:22] <s|k> zcat[1] : that worked! thanks :)
[07:23] <s|k> zcat[1] : do you happen to know what the port for ssh is?
[07:23] <crimsun> 22.
[07:23] <Ademan> crimsun thanks
[07:23] <s|k> crimsun: hi, thanks :)
[07:25] <vompatti> mm
[07:25] <vompatti> Anyone have any experience about installing opera to ubuntu 5.10 ?
[07:25] <imichel> salut
[07:25] <DBO> !FR
[07:25] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:25] <Ademan> /etc/vsfptd.conf is the default vsftpd config file right?
[07:25] <vompatti> !opera
[07:26] <odat> anyone having problems with the new sun java and firefox?
[07:26] <imichel> Est ce que vous savez comment crer un nouveau utilisateur
[07:26] <NoUse> odat ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:26] <IcemanV9> !tell vompatti about opera
[07:27] <alleyoopster> vompatti: i have using opera on dapper at the moment
[07:27] <nanotube> imichel: from the menu, System>Administration>Users and Groups
[07:29] <nanotube> so, on may laptop, the cpu fan gets turned on and off automatically at certain temperature cutoffs. anyone know where these cutoffs are stored, so i can change them?
[07:30] <nanotube> heh wow, for 650 people on the channel, it is awfully quiet here today. :)
[07:30] <NoUse> nanotube they're all asleep :-)
[07:30] <nanotube> NoUse, hehe apparently so.
[07:30] <vompatti> alleyoopster:  mm, i downloaded that 8.54 (i have ubuntu 5.10) but it said something about my processor.
[07:30] <zcat[1] > ZzZz
[07:30] <vompatti> Trying 9b now
[07:30] <imichel> Hello
[07:31] <nanotube> imichel, salut
[07:31] <nanotube> imichel: from the menu, System>Administration>Users and Groups, you can create new users there
[07:31] <imichel> Salut
[07:32] <vompatti> mm, still no go.
[07:32] <nanotube> imichel, at least that's what that stuff is called in english. :)
[07:32] <nanotube> vompatti, what exactly does it say about your cpu?
[07:32] <imichel> Are you a computer technician
[07:32] <nanotube> imichel, you asking me?
[07:32] <chasmarang> hi people
[07:32] <imichel> Sorry I am a francophone
[07:33] <chasmarang> got a question for ya
[07:33] <imichel> But I could understand well English
[07:33] <nanotube> imichel, no prob :) there is a channel called ubuntu-fr for french language, if you want to try it. or you could try asking here in french, but i can answer in english cuz i can understand french, just not speak it.
[07:33] <alleyoopster> vompatti: I had no errors about the cpu when i installed. What was the message?
[07:33] <chasmarang> my hoary boots up with apache2 started is there anyway I can stop it
[07:33] <imichel> Could tell me how to crack a game
[07:34] <NoUse> imichel no
[07:34] <vompatti> well the package is i386 and my proccessor is 64bit so.
[07:34] <vompatti> Dunno really, didn't let me install anyways.
[07:34] <dutchee> can anyone recommend a good p2p software for ubuntu?
[07:34] <alleyoopster> vompatti: not sure i can help you without some more info
[07:34] <NoUse> !p2p
[07:34] <ubotu> well, p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[07:34] <nanotube> vompatti, ah, 64bit woes. i see. well, i've always just told people to avoid 64bit ubuntu due to software availability problems. :)
[07:34] <dutchee> thank you so much!
[07:35] <nanotube> imichel, search on the web, you can find stuff.
[07:35] <vompatti> nanotube oh :D Why didnt anyone tell me that. Well maybe i can stick to firefox :)
[07:35] <imichel> nanotube could you tell me how to find back my CPU speed
[07:35] <nanotube> imichel, use command "cat /proc/cpuinfo" to find information about your cpu.
[07:36] <chasmarang> my hoary boots up with apache2 started is there anyway I can stop it
[07:36] <nanotube> vompatti, hehe yea, a bit too late now, eh. :) i use firefox myself, it's good for me. but def upgrade to 1.5 from the 1.0.8 they have in the breezy repositories (if you are using breezy, that is)
[07:37] <imichel> could you help me to download a graphic driver for 256-bit color in windows 98
[07:37] <chasmarang> apache2 starts when hoary boots is there anyway I can stop it at boot time
[07:37] <Madpilot> imichel, there's a #windows channel that might be better for questions like that...
[07:38] <imichel> Which?
[07:38] <chasmarang> Madpilot: apache2 starts when hoary boots is there anyway I can stop it at boot time
[07:39] <Madpilot> chasmarang, probably, but I don't know how offhand. It takes up nearly zero resources when it's just idling, though, so why worry about it?
[07:39] <nanotube> imichel, type command "/join #windows" in your irc client, that will get you to join the #windows channel
[07:39] <chasmarang> I have a new server
[07:40] <chasmarang> thttpd
[07:40] <nanotube> hey guys, so, on may laptop, the cpu fan gets turned on and off automatically at certain temperature cutoffs. anyone know where these cutoffs are stored, so i can change them?
[07:40] <Madpilot> chasmarang, why not just uninstall apache2, then?
[07:41] <chasmarang> or move the file - thanks
[07:41] <imichel> nanotube I don't know where to type it
[07:43] <nanotube> imichel, same place where you type a message to send to this channel
[07:43] <C|int> richiefrich, , something can be fast, and also fast at crashing, its up to the user what she/he wants to use, I test with multiple systems, maybe I will test it sometime, however its not going be any time soon, and like I said, what I"ll end up doing, is taking a kernel, then loading modules, for drivers, etc.. and hardware, and then the packages and gui is entirely up to me
[07:44] <chasmarang> Madpilot: Thank you so long
[07:44] <richiefrich> C|int, thatas cool, i test also
[07:44] <C|int> don't we all :-)
[07:44] <richiefrich> C|int,  im on sourcemage now
[07:44] <richiefrich> on my test box
[07:44] <C|int> well good, how come your on ubuntu :-)
[07:45] <C|int> ; P
[07:45] <richiefrich> i like to help
[07:45] <vompatti> Anyone have any idea where to get winex?
[07:45] <C|int> me too
[07:45] <C|int> :)
[07:45] <zcat[1] > minex.com ?
[07:45] <zcat[1] > err winex.com I mean
[07:45] <vompatti> mm
[07:45] <C|int> vompatti,
[07:45] <C|int> I have Cedega 5.0,
[07:46] <C|int> along with CodeWeavers Cross Over Pro 5.0
[07:46] <C|int> nice
[07:46] <C|int> what type of network, fiber optics?
[07:46] <C|int> :D
[07:46] <zcat[1] > hmmm.. wine exchange.. not what I was after but cheap wine is good.
[07:46] <C|int> its not cheap wine
[07:47] <C|int> cedega, is newer than winex
[07:47] <satlan32> hi
[07:47] <vompatti> C|int:  isnt that non-free?
[07:47] <zcat[1] > expensive wine at wholesale then..
[07:47] <richiefrich> C|int, u wish
[07:48] <satlan32> how do i disable the gnome gui? i want to start the system with only console
[07:48] <richiefrich> C|int, I wish
[07:48] <richiefrich> typo
[07:48] <C|int> you can try it for free,
[07:48] <zcat[1] > satlan32: remove /etc/rc2.d/???gdm
[07:48] <C|int> however, I do have, Cedega 5.0 because I got through business, colleg, etc. systems engineering
[07:48] <satlan32> and if i want to set it up again?
[07:49] <vompatti> C|int:  hehe, but it'll be sad when the time runs out :b
[07:49] <C|int> we get alot of stuff, to develop with
[07:49] <C|int> it won't if I send you what I got
[07:49] <liquidboy> i'm trying to reload my repositories (in synaptic). every time i get "Could not download all repository indexes
[07:49] <liquidboy> "
[07:49] <vompatti> :o
[07:49] <Xaero_Vincent> I have a question.. I downloaded that tar.gz package of libpam-foreground and compiled the source but where do I place the "check-foreground console" and "pam_foreground.so" files?
[07:49] <zcat[1] > cd /etc/rc2.d ; ln -s K19gdm ../init.d/gdm
[07:49] <vompatti> Well if you do that i will be very happy :D
[07:49] <C|int> just don't go charging people
[07:49] <liquidboy> do the repositories update ok for eveyone else?
[07:50] <satlan32> thansk
[07:50] <vompatti> mm charging ? :s
[07:50] <zcat[1] > cd /etc/rc2.d ; ln -s S13gdm ../init.d/gdm    -- sorry half asleep..
[07:50] <zcat[1] > if you rename /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm to K13gdm that will dissable gdm.. just rename it back when you want gdm to start on boot again.
[07:51] <C|int> okay, I have the tar, and rpm, thats what i got,
[07:51] <vompatti> mm btw, can you transfer files with irssi ?
[07:51] <C|int> well, I hacked my cable lines, in my city, where I live, so
[07:51] <satlan32> will try
[07:51] <satlan32> thanks
[07:51] <C|int> :-)
[07:51] <vompatti> C|int :-D
[07:51] <vompatti> well both are ok i think, i mean tar or rpm
[07:52] <C|int> theres some good advantages, for being Network Engineer, and Systems Engineer
[07:52] <C|int> I just can't get my wireless working right for acer aspire
[07:52] <vompatti> Hehe
[07:53] <C|int> the first 1 , I am trying to send to you, is cedega-engine-5.0-1.i386.tar
[07:53] <crimsun> do /not/ under any circumstances talk about illicitly obtained software in this channel.
[07:54] <C|int> crimsun, , I didn't illicitly obtain any software
[07:54] <C|int> under our IT development, its all bought and paid for on a business account
[07:54] <C|int> its in my contract, I can revise, rewrite, and redistributed how I feel rightful to,
[07:55] <crimsun> that belongs in their channel, then, and not in here.
[07:55] <C|int> user was asking me about stuff, :-)
[07:57] <vOmpatti> mmie
[07:57] <C|int> I view my computing experience, and work as open no matter what, so, can do what I want, :-)
[07:57] <vOmpatti> C|int have you tried any games with the cedega yet? :D
[07:57] <C|int> yep
[07:57] <para_site> can someone tell me what the difference is in building and compiling source ?
[07:57] <vOmpatti> 'example ?
[07:57] <C|int> I develop, and build platforms for people to work with
[07:58] <vOmpatti> Gonna try that time-demo now
[07:58] <C|int> go ahead
[07:59] <C|int> not anything wrong with sharing useful, powerful information , with the world, not dam thing worng,
[07:59] <vOmpatti> Im just wondering, why does my firefox give errors when i try to access preferences and all
[07:59] <vOmpatti> Hehe, true :)
[07:59] <narg_> !reinstall
[07:59] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, narg_
[07:59] <C|int> for users that have something against it, I guess they are just close minded, and like the software how they want, and nothing new for anyone to experience,
[07:59] <narg_> bleh, only debian bot knows that I guess
[08:00] <C|int> I don't know v0m, I use Opera browser
[08:00] <C|int> ^_^
[08:00] <nanotube> vOmpatti, what kinda errors?
[08:00] <nanotube> hey guys, so, on may laptop, the cpu fan gets turned on and off automatically at certain temperature cutoffs. anyone know where these cutoffs are stored, so i can change them?
[08:01] <zcat[1] > nanotube: as a wild stab in the dark, perhaps BIOS power management settings?
[08:01] <vOmpatti> Nanotube mm wait a sec.
[08:02] <nanotube> zcat[1] , hmm, so you think its at the bios level, not anywhere in ubuntu acpi config?
[08:02] <vOmpatti> mm
[08:02] <vOmpatti> Its in finnish so i dont think you'll understand it, and i dont know how to translate that to english :s
[08:02] <zcat[1] > mine has (had..) a temperature and fan shutoff in bios..
[08:02] <nanotube> vOmpatti, hehe, well... give it a try.
[08:02] <C|int> vOmpatti,
[08:02] <C|int> have you ever tried opera?
[08:03] <vOmpatti> Yeah but it didnt install :D i just whined about that here
[08:03] <gwark> hi
[08:03] <vOmpatti> Cause i have amd64 distro and proc so
[08:03] <nanotube> zcat[1] , hmm, well, i guess next time i reboot the comp , i will take a look. but i havent rebooted in about 20 days, so im loathe to break the uptime streak. :)
[08:03] <vOmpatti> but im gonna reboot now
[08:03] <vOmpatti> Cya all in a minute
[08:03] <zcat[1] > 20 days on a laptop? sweet :)
[08:03] <nanotube> zcat[1] , yea, ubuntu's pretty stable for me, really.
[08:04] <nanotube> zcat[1] , though winxp didnt do too badly on my lappy either, i used to get up to about a month of uptime before some sluggishness set in.
[08:04] <gwark> last time i was here, someone gave me a link to a small app/script that mounted all the the partitions and harddrives with permissions in order ... would someone in here know where i might find that thingie again polease?
[08:04] <zcat[1] > my laptop ended up as a temporary server once.. then we got a bunch of other work and it ended up with 60 days uptime before we got around to replacing it..
[08:04] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell gwark about ntfs
[08:04] <nanotube> zcat[1] , on ubuntu, sluggishness does not set in - but the networkmanager applet sometimes goes bonkers, and the only way to mend it is to reboot.
[08:05] <zcat[1] > it was pretty stuffed after that. Dells aren't really designed for server use :(
[08:05] <gwark> many thanks madpilot
[08:05] <Madpilot> npo
[08:05] <Madpilot> np, even :P
[08:05] <nanotube> zcat[1] , hehe, what kinda stuff were you serving on it?
[08:06] <C|int> hey Madpilot , probably be in my best interest, to install, tar.gz, for opera than its package, for breezy, since I"m using dap eh
[08:06] <zcat[1] > 30-odd websites, a bit of database stuff. It was already a fairly old laptop but when I got it back the battery was shagged from being constantly on charge.
[08:06] <Madpilot> C|int, no idea - I'm still running Breezy. You could always use the static debs
[08:07] <nanotube> C|int, probably. you might make your life easier if you use checkinstall instead of make install, though.
[08:07] <Madpilot> nanotube, does that work with pre-compiled stuff? Opera doesn't ship source
[08:07] <C|int> nm
[08:08] <C|int> thanks guys
[08:08] <vompatti> Did you miss me ? :>
[08:08] <C|int> nah, I wish they did though Madpilot , however, Its my choice of browser, and I use to be a mozilla, firefox guy :)
[08:08] <nanotube> zcat[1] , ah heh them batteries used to not like that much. i had an old compaq laptop that was down to about... 40 seconds of battery life. :) but my current dell, it sits on my desktop a lot, with the power plugged in, and the battery is still doing ok.
[08:09] <nxvl> i'm having problems with gcc, i haven't the libraries like stdio
[08:09] <nxvl> where can i found and install they
[08:09] <nanotube> Madpilot, hmm, i don't know. depends on what format the precompiled stuff comes in. after all, checkinstall only replaces the "make install" part, not the make itself - so it always works on precompiled stuff. :) if they left the equivalent of a make install in their distributed file, it might work... but i never tried.
[08:09] <C|int> e.. opera started out with tar.gz from 707 kb/s and is idled to , 500 kb/s :D
[08:10] <C|int> I'm tellin ya, they have some of the best servers :-)
[08:10] <nanotube> nxvl, install package "build-essential" that will get all the gcc and make and the rest of the related stuff automatically.
[08:10] <nanotube> vompatti, of course we did... ;)
[08:11] <nxvl> nanotube: thnx
[08:11] <nanotube> nxvl, no prob.
[08:11] <C|int> hey , anyone in here, into cable speed, for internet?
[08:11] <C|int> I was able, to flash my modem/gateway, and fool it somehow, and I have free internet lol,
[08:11] <C|int> however the dam speeds drop down to 7 kb/s from high rate, >_<
[08:12] <C|int> I can browse the web fast,  its really amazing that way though :-)
[08:12] <nanotube> C|int, well, 7kb for free is better than nothing. :)
[08:12] <C|int> yep
[08:12] <C|int> well, browsing is awesome
[08:12] <vompatti> What was that thing, truetype font thingie ? :D
[08:12] <C|int> I never thought I could do such a thin, hee.. I went to college, so I could update system, and install some packages, :-)
[08:12] <nanotube> C|int, what's your max dl speed?
[08:13] <C|int> there T lines aren't bad at all
[08:13] <zcat[1] > bah!! I get 7kbps most of the time on my expensive 256K 'broadband' :(
[08:13] <C|int> hey crimsun
[08:13] <zcat[1] > sometimes it even drops to 5k
[08:13] <vompatti> And btw, firefox works now after a reboot. I think i just updated it :o
[08:13] <C|int> I didn't mean to offend anyone, if i was talking proprietary software, it doesn't hurt, to let people know there options,
[08:13] <nanotube> zcat[1] , hah, you might as well just switch to dialup, then.
[08:13] <MenZa> !package ttf
[08:13] <ubotu> MenZa: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:13] <MenZa> sigh.
[08:14] <zcat[1] > dialup I'd have to get another phone line. I'm thinking about wireless though
[08:14] <nanotube> !msttcorefonts
[08:14] <ubotu> [msttcorefonts]  sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[08:14] <C|int> can < I really hook ubuntu up, so My speeds are flying,
[08:14] <vompatti> Thank you
[08:14] <C|int> and maybe I should set up firewall, eh, I havn't done that yet, and I found out, using my linux system, ubuntu :).. of course, Its awesome because, it like reloads my bandwidth again, full charge , its like I'm gettin raw bandwidth or something
[08:14] <MenZa> vompatti: msttcorefonts
[08:14] <MenZa> Argh, damn.
[08:15] <C|int> well , nanotube , at 11 kb/s now
[08:15] <vompatti> Hehe :D
[08:15] <bk> Does anyone know how I can make different language scripts readable?
[08:15] <C|int> any help, with my acer aspire wireless broadcom, would be appreciated, I did everything in reading, and still nothing..
[08:15] <zcat[1] > anyhow.. local traffic is always 33kbps, I can proxy through my webserver if I really need full bandwidth.
[08:15] <C|int> installed linux-headers, ndiswrapper, did the whole make and everything and :(
[08:15] <mikebot> can i get wmv plugins for mozilla firefox in ubuntu?
[08:16] <C|int> hey nanotube
[08:16] <bk> mikebot, i have that same problem.
[08:16] <zcat[1] > !w32codecs
[08:16] <zcat[1] > !+w32codecs
[08:16] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install. To use w32codecs on a 64-bit system, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[08:16] <Clintux> :)
[08:16] <zcat[1] > mike and bk ^^^ what ubotu said
[08:17] <bk> mikebot, are you atleast able to watch mpeg files?
[08:17] <bk> zcat, yeah i'll check it out.
[08:17] <Clintux> nanotube, !
[08:17] <nanotube> C|int, heh, well, i get about 600KB/s on my cable modem. (though i pay for it rather than hack it for free)
[08:17] <Clintux> hee
[08:17] <vompatti> How do i enable multiverse? :D
[08:17] <zcat[1] > ahhh.. hang on.. wmv in firefox.. different question :)
[08:17] <nanotube> Clintux, yo
[08:17] <Clintux> thats what others say, well, I couldn' get any services in my name lol
[08:17] <vompatti> Take those # marks before the phrase ?
[08:17] <zcat[1] > there's a few different firefox media plugins. not sure what I'm using though..
[08:17] <Madpilot> vompatti, yes - see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:18] <Clintux> finished, at 10.1 kb/s :P
[08:18] <bk> zcat, what about my previous question?  My computer can't translate a language I want?  How do I do it?
[08:18] <nanotube> vompatti, hey, check out http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, it will build your sources.list for you automagically.
[08:18] <Clintux> not bad eh :P
[08:18] <Clintux> its like I got net Zero :P
[08:18] <zcat[1] > bk: translate?
[08:18] <bk> yeah.  do you know how?
[08:18] <Clintux> nanotube, , I'm actually working on a system, that me and some people are going to linkk up, like supernode, and clustering, and design for , Satellite, Wi-max communication, you should see the books I got :D
[08:18] <nanotube> Clintux, heh
[08:19] <nanotube> Clintux, cool
[08:19] <Clintux> I'm not jokin :P
[08:19] <zcat[1] > not sure I understood the question..
[08:19] <Clintux> people are going hate me, because I believe, people who don't have alot of money, should have the net free :D
[08:19] <Clintux> just like ubuntu , make there OS free :D
[08:19] <Clintux> :D
[08:19] <Clintux> :)
[08:19] <Clintux> and I going have all kinds of smileys too :D
[08:20] <vompatti> Funny, that cedega_timedemo_installer is .sh
[08:20] <Madpilot> Clintux, ease up on your Enter key a bit, please
[08:20] <nanotube> Clintux, well, in theory, ideally, that should be true for all the "basic necessities", such as food, shelter, etc. in a decade or two, internet is going to be a basic necessity just like that. :)
[08:20] <vompatti> And i have no idea what to do with it :s
[08:20] <nanotube> vompatti, run it?
[08:21] <zcat[1] > vompatti: sh foo.sh  or  ./foo.sh
[08:21] <vompatti> mm
[08:21] <bk> for instance, if you go to OpenOffic.org.  One of their projects is to translate this application into native languages.  There are a lot of languages to choose from.  You can select Hebrew and it will show you the Hebrew script.  I'm trying to translate in Lao, but my computer doesn't recognize this type of font.  Anyone know how I can fix this?
[08:21] <graft> anyone here ever use kttsd?
[08:22] <Clintux> when you study, , Introduction to Telecommunications Network Engineering, 2E , 2003, Artech , GPS The Global Positioning System, Publishers The Satellite Communication Applications Handbook, Radio Engineering for Wireless Communication and Sensor Applications ,Wireless Internet Teleocommunications (2005)
[08:22] <zcat[1] > bk: sudo apt-get install ttf-lao
[08:22] <Clintux> for example.. sorry, thats just some, you become proud of yourself
[08:22] <zcat[1] > !about ttf-lao
[08:22] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zcat[1] 
[08:22] <zcat[1] > hmm..
[08:22] <Clintux> can't google that, ubotu :)
[08:22] <zcat[1] > ttf-lao - TrueType font for Lao language
[08:22] <Clintux> you should see my book on, cmos design lol
[08:22] <zcat[1] > !info ttf-lao
[08:23] <vompatti> ehm
[08:23] <vompatti> Another stupid question :D why cant i save that sources.list, think i have to be su
[08:23] <nanotube> Clintux, sounds like you have your hands on some good resources! have fun learning :)
[08:23] <Clintux> I Dontw ant to list my hacking books
[08:23] <Clintux> :P
[08:23] <Clintux> oh ty :D
[08:23] <Clintux> really, :D
[08:23] <zcat[1] > hmm.. how do I tell what repo that package came from? ubotu doesn't recognise it.
[08:23] <nanotube> vompatti, yes, you have to edit it as root. so use command like "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit it as root.
[08:23] <Clintux> i havn't really read much, into the ethical, or my hacking books, and I have actual real books, I made some copies with Adobe Acrobat Professional :)
[08:23] <MenZa> vompatti: correct, you must be root. Use sudo.
[08:23] <MenZa> nanotube: sigh :\
[08:24] <PrimoTurbo> What's the mount setting for read/write to ntfs for fstab my current one is umask=0222
[08:24] <nanotube> MenZa, hehe :)
[08:24] <Clintux> oh, and resources are good. eh :)
[08:24] <slackern> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/ttf-lao
[08:24] <vompatti> MenZa:  but mm how do i do that ? :D im on gedit :s
[08:24] <bk> zcat[1] , thanks for your help.  i have an idea that i'm gonna try.
[08:24] <MenZa> vompatti: well, do what nanotube said
[08:24] <Clintux> woudln't that be funny, if a guy designed a linux system, and we had no idea, and he was  serial killer
[08:24] <Clintux> I would be like. no way! >_<
[08:24] <slackern> zcat[1] : maybe it's just in dapper
[08:24] <nanotube> PrimoTurbo, umask=0000 would give everyone read-write, but a big warning: writing/changing stuff on your ntfs partition using default linux ntfs driver will really screw up your partition - so don't do it.
[08:25] <zcat[1] > ohh.. probably.. :)
[08:25] <Clintux> the world , its just funny eh :)
[08:25] <vompatti> MenZa mm ?
[08:25] <mikebot> bk, no
[08:25] <nanotube> PrimoTurbo, there is a way using something called "captiventfs" or something like that. search for it. or just stick to mounting it as read-only.
[08:25] <zcat[1] > bk: wait two weeks then upgrade to dapper :)
[08:25] <Clintux> zcat[1] ,
[08:25] <MenZa> vompatti: : sudo gedit /path/to/file.ext
[08:25] <Clintux> I'm already  running dapper alpha 7 lol
[08:25] <MenZa> Clintux: flight 7 ^
[08:25] <vompatti> oh, thanks
[08:25] <PrimoTurbo> ahh nvm then just a small file I need to delete and I can boot to windows to do it tomorow XD
[08:25] <PrimoTurbo> thanks however
[08:25] <Clintux> just only problem I got, configuring wireless.. argh, done what it said for my hardware
[08:26] <Clintux> beta, etc,
[08:26] <Madpilot> vompatti, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list", to be exact ;)
[08:26] <zcat[1] > me too, but we're not allowed to recoment it to newbs here.. the ops keep telling me off :)
[08:26] <mzuverink> I ran firestarter and am not happy with the results, my machine reports nat errors in azureus and such.  If I start firestarter and then stop the firewall everything is ok.  what can I do to remove all the rules that it created? Will using synaptic and uninstalling(removing all configuration files) result in fixing this?  When I reboot I have to stop it to get rid of its ruleset, it starts automatically.
[08:26] <Clintux> oh yep
[08:26] <Clintux> tru
[08:26] <nanotube> PrimoTurbo, no prob. ;)
[08:26] <Clintux> whats wrong with opening some windows though :)
[08:26] <Clintux> its linux.. so.. why hide something
[08:26] <Mysta> Hello. I am having troubles getting SMP installed via synaptic Package Manager. My 1st (and only... so far) attempt I selected "linux-686-smp".
[08:26] <zcat[1] > been running dapper since flight4..
[08:26] <Clintux> :P
[08:26] <Clintux> now come on
[08:26] <Clintux> don't go gettin all proprietary thinkin. ubuntu.. cough
[08:27] <Clintux> ;)
[08:27] <Mysta> But, once I log in, the computer will freeze completely within 30-40 secs. No Mouse movement or any other kind of response. My only option at this point is to do a hard reset.
[08:27] <Madpilot> Clintux, please stop hitting Enter so much - try one line per sentence.
[08:27] <Clintux> oh I forgot, its a recommendation :)
[08:27] <crimsun> Mysta: breezy?
[08:27] <emile> how can i play a dvd image (movie) like a normal dvd with dapper?
[08:27] <Mysta> crimsun: yes
[08:27] <Clintux> sorry Madpilot
[08:27] <crimsun> Mysta: boot with acpi=off appended to the kernel command line
[08:27] <zcat[1] > Clintux: it's hard enough when they break things in breezy, damn near impossible to fix problems when dapper isn't 100% stable yet.. who knows what updates they have or don't have..
[08:28] <Clint-> well, the person can make things work
[08:28] <nanotube> mzuverink, hmm, well, you can uninstall it, sure. as i recall, it places a startup script in /etc/init.d/firestarter (or something like that), where it initializes the iptables ruleset to whatever it wants it to be.
[08:28] <zcat[1] > thus it's easier to keep the newbs in breezy for now..
[08:28] <Clint-> Its just up to the user, how far she/he is willing to challenge themselves,
[08:28] <Clint-> zcat[1] , , want my honest opinion on breezy, ..
[08:28] <nanotube> Clint-, or how much of a risk they want to take with a production system. :)
[08:28] <Jeaton> ubuntu only comes with gnome, is this true?
[08:28] <Clint-> nothing breezy about it :D
[08:28] <Mysta> crimsun: im not familar w/ how to do that
[08:28] <nanotube> Jeaton, there is also kde and xfce alternatives
[08:29] <zcat[1] > I run dapper but I know it's beta and expect things to break...
[08:29] <Clint-> no offense ubuntu, thank you so much for your hourless nites, I too share a dream, of the ideal system, and support,
[08:29] <Jeaton> nanotube - so kubuntu is basically ubuntu but with kde?
[08:29] <Madpilot> Jeaton, exactly
[08:29] <nanotube> Jeaton, if you are installing from scratch, and want kde, you can download a kubuntu install disk. or if you are already running ubuntu, you can install package "kubuntu-desktop" or "xubuntu-desktop" to get kde or xfce in addition to gnome
[08:29] <crimsun> Mysta: when you boot up, you'll see a grub menu. There's a kernel line there. Scroll down to it, and press 'e' (for edit). Add acpi=off to the end of that line, then press enter, then 'b' to boot.
[08:29] <nanotube> Jeaton, yes, exactly
[08:29] <Jeaton> ok
[08:29] <zcat[1] > dapper is going to be sweet..
[08:30] <Clint-> Jeaton, , by default, yes, gnome is 1 of the worldest, open source, stable gui, graphical user interface, for desktop
[08:30] <Blake79> what is the script to bring the window/mac partition onto the desktop each time you log=on?
[08:30] <Clint-> thats why programmers use it
[08:30] <satlan32> hi
[08:30] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Blake79 about ntfs
[08:30] <satlan32> security question
[08:30] <w^x> dapper here, its doing well, printing works, wireless cards(prism2.5, atheros) work, no problems yet, well my apropos command always returns "nothing apropriate", but all in all Dapper is dandy.
[08:30] <satlan32> please reply in private
[08:30] <w^x> :] 
[08:30] <satlan32> how do i disable the firewall?
[08:31] <Jeaton> Clint- really, i was always told kde was better, ill check out gnome though
[08:31] <Clint-> I hear alot about those aftermarket cards, too bad I dont' have the money for 1, yet, waiting, been paying bills,
[08:31] <Madpilot> satlan32, there is no firewall in Ubuntu by default
[08:31] <zcat[1] > w^x: apropos will come right in 24hrs when the cron job updates it.
[08:31] <Jeaton> i had tried it before, on a shit computer that barely supported it
[08:31] <Clint-> any recommendation, on a pcmcia, or does even usb network cards work, although would appear to me, pcmcia would just work fine,
[08:31] <w^x> satlan32, your script, or ?
[08:31] <satlan32> so why can't i ssh the ip?
[08:31] <pvd2006> Now running Xubuntu, it seems pretty fast.
[08:31] <nanotube> satlan32, madpilot speaks true. but if you happened to enable the firewall, just type in a terminal "sudo iptables -F" that will flush all the rules and open up the firewall.
[08:31] <w^x> zcat[1] , i think its been 24, maybe, I can just go ahead and execute the job and check.
[08:31] <emile> how can i play a dvd image (movie) like a normal dvd with dapper? i mounted the image and can click vob files, is there any other way?
[08:32] <zcat[1] > satlan32: sudo apt-get install ssh  - by default there's only the ssh client installed
[08:32] <Jeaton> im going to beef this computer up to 512, but will 128 run gnome for now?
[08:32] <Jeaton> 128mb of ram
[08:32] <Madpilot> Jeaton, it might - slowly. With only 128, I'd go with XFCE - Xubuntu
[08:32] <nanotube> Jeaton, it will run, but may be a bit sluggish. i would suggest xubuntu
[08:32] <Clint-> Jeaton, , I thought KDE was all nice and everything, when I first started using linux, it was, Mandrake 10.0, a red hat based distribution, however, as I journey'd my way through linux world, staying with windows too, I tried Xandros, then Fedora core, then some others, and when I got this new laptop, I tried, ubuntu out, and then went to debian, and seen how gnome behaved on my hardware, and I was pleased, KDE isn't all compatible for my system,
[08:32] <w^x> Jeaton, yes
[08:33] <Mysta> cimsun: thank you, i will try that 1st thing 2morrow. Its late and I have spent lots of time trying to research. I read that I shouldn't of installed linux-image-smp packages along side the linux-686-smp package does that sound right?
[08:33] <satlan32> oh ok thanks
[08:33] <nanotube> Madpilot, hah, you beat me to it, drat.
[08:33] <zcat[1] > satlan32: also if you're behind a NAT router you may have to forward port 22
[08:33] <Clint-> compatbile for my hardware , yet,
[08:33] <Jeaton> Clint- - I started out with fluxbox when using slackware
[08:33] <Clint-> I like, gnome, and enlightenment, and fluxbox
[08:33] <satlan32> thanks guys.
[08:33] <Jeaton> and personally, i would rather use fluxbox, but ubuntu doesnt come with it, does it
[08:33] <Mysta> whats fluxbox?
[08:33] <satlan32> i need it from the internal LAN, this is on a VMWARE
[08:34] <satlan32> for testing only
[08:34] <Clint-> you can install it
[08:34] <pvd2006> I am running Xubuntu, I like it
[08:34] <Clint-> you can have every dang gui you want, because why!, its open source :D
[08:34] <pvd2006> its fast
[08:34] <Clint-> so go help yourself :)
[08:34] <Madpilot> need sleep - later, all. Have fun.
[08:34] <Mysta> so fluxbox is a WDM?
[08:34] <Mysta> see ya
[08:34] <nanotube> Mysta, fluxbox is an alternative window manager
[08:34] <Clint-> Jeaton, , just add some more repositories, and you can install it,
[08:35] <Jeaton> ok
[08:35] <PrimoTurbo> What's the name of that new menu editor?
[08:35] <PrimoTurbo> for gnome
[08:35] <Clint-> yeah , mysta, fluxbox is pretty much the fastest I have seen, however, its very minimal,
[08:35] <PrimoTurbo> aletec or something...
[08:35] <nanotube> PrimoTurbo, new as in, for dapper?
[08:35] <PrimoTurbo> yes
[08:35] <Mysta> clint: so its not future rich
[08:35] <Clint-> I like, enlightenment
[08:35] <Clint-> and gnome
[08:35] <PrimoTurbo> I just need the new name
[08:35] <Clint-> but thats just me :)
[08:35] <w^x> zcat[1] , hey its the "find" cron job right?
[08:35] <Jeaton> Mysta - it's nothing like gnome or KDE
[08:35] <Clint-> the world of technology, heh you can program your own dang gui lol
[08:35] <nanotube> PrimoTurbo, hmm... the name slips my mind at the moment - and im running breezy so can't check. :)
[08:36] <Jeaton> very minimal, no eye candy
[08:36] <PrimoTurbo> I'm on breezy too
[08:36] <Clint-> Jeaton, ,
[08:36] <PrimoTurbo> grep was the old name
[08:36] <PrimoTurbo> the name changed
[08:36] <Clint-> with enlightenment, there is, and alot more options than fluxbox
[08:36] <pvd2006> in Xubuntu mutliverse and universe are already there right
[08:36] <PrimoTurbo> the old one was a pos
[08:36] <nanotube> PrimoTurbo, well, on breezy its called "smeg"
[08:36] <PrimoTurbo> ohh my bad smeg i meant
[08:36] <PrimoTurbo> what's the new name anyone recall?
[08:36] <Jeaton> really, i should check that out
[08:36] <Clint-> Jeaton, , I know a user, that uses Slackware, and he recommends, Enlightenment, because of the iCandy, however its up to the user, I'm on gnome , and windows so,
[08:37] <ToolPackinMama> Hi everyone. What's the easy way to edit the boot order in GRUB?
[08:37] <Clint-> and FreeBSD soon, when I get the images
[08:37] <w^x> zcat[1] , or ? which script is it to fix apropos?
[08:37] <nanotube> ToolPackinMama, edit file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:37] <Jeaton> actually, that's what I should go with
[08:37] <Jeaton> freebsd
[08:37] <ToolPackinMama> as a text file?
[08:37] <PrimoTurbo> It's Alacarte
[08:37] <Clint-> total of, 3 operating systems, just in seperate partitions, I use Acronis Disk Director Suite, thats my preference, lets me choose which OS I want at boot, a little more, GUI, user friendly
[08:37] <Jeaton> ive been meaning to install it on my old computer, but it had some issues
[08:37] <nanotube> Jeaton, if you want freebsd for a desktop, you should try pcbsd.
[08:38] <Clint-> nanotube,
[08:38] <Clint-> eh, on that
[08:38] <Mysta> is there a widget application, like yahoo widgets??
[08:38] <Clint-> I did that whole DesktopBSD, and PC BSD thing
[08:38] <nanotube> Jeaton, freebsd is great for a server, but somewhat limited hardware support for a desktop afaik. (last time i tried it anyway)
[08:38] <Clint-> it uses, other repositories , rather than from the main, FreeBSD
[08:38] <Jeaton> actually, im moreless will be using it for servers
[08:38] <Clint-> but I will say, PC BSD< 1.0, very pleased with the finished work, however, FreeBSD 6.1 is out,
[08:38] <nanotube> Clint-, so, what was your general opinion on pcbsd?
[08:38] <Clint-> eh, after testing, 4 of there builds,
[08:39] <Clint-> 1.0 I was very pleased, for if you are a KDE user,
[08:39] <Clint-> then go PC BSD
[08:39] <w^x> k does anyone know which cron job under cron.daily I run to get my apropos tool working? ! is it man-db or find?
[08:39] <Clint-> if you want gnome, kde, and all dang other gui environments, then go FreeBSD then install
[08:39] <Clint-> see my point
[08:39] <Clint-> I'm just waiting  , til tomorrow, so I can get both images, our servers at my college, were running a bit slow,
[08:40] <PrimoTurbo> how do u install a deb again?
[08:40] <Clint-> I told them, they need to start using.. FreeBSD, or even linux
[08:40] <PrimoTurbo> dpkg -i ?
[08:40] <Clint-> there hard headed :)
[08:40] <Clint-> well Jeaton , FreeBSD , is server all the way
[08:40] <nanotube> w^x, man-db sounds like it could be right :)
[08:41] <Clint-> I am really pleased, with the power of unix.. :)
[08:41] <nanotube> PrimoTurbo, yes, dpkg -i packagename.deb is it
[08:41] <ToolPackinMama> I found /boot/grub/menu.lst - I'm not sure how to edit it.
[08:41] <pvd2006> I guess there isnt a sources.list in xubuntu
[08:41] <pvd2006> ?
[08:41] <ToolPackinMama> I'm afraid I'll break something
[08:41] <PrimoTurbo> sudo gedit it toolpackinmama
[08:41] <rajesh_> how can i do processor frequncy scaling in ubuntu , I am running xfce4 and not gnome
[08:41] <PrimoTurbo> then remove the entries u don't need or edit boot time tc
[08:41] <PrimoTurbo> etc*
[08:42] <heero1711> Hello anyone know about some wiki simple?
[08:42] <nanotube> ToolPackinMama, if you are not sure what's up, then you better not screw around with it. :)
[08:42] <heero1711> tikiwiki have a lot of stuff
[08:42] <ToolPackinMama> well, yeah
[08:42] <nanotube> pvd2006, there must be - there is an apt-get on xubuntu, right? so there must be sources.list
[08:42] <ToolPackinMama> I want to chage which one is the default
[08:42] <bimberi> hey cafuego,how's .nl ?
[08:43] <cafuego> bimberi: less cold
[08:43] <bimberi> :)
[08:43] <Clint-> nanotube, ,
[08:43] <nanotube> ToolPackinMama, ah well, here is what you do
[08:43] <Clint-> to tell you the truth, only system I found other to be faster, is BSD
[08:43] <nanotube> ToolPackinMama, first, make a backup of it. run command "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup" to make a copy
[08:44] <ToolPackinMama> k
[08:44] <Clint-> I like ubuntu dont get me wrong, but in the end, heck, I think I might end up using unix,
[08:44] <nanotube> ToolPackinMama, then, start editing it, run command "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[08:44] <zcat[1] > Clint-: tried minix 3 yet?
[08:44] <Clint-> not really tried minix at all
[08:44] <ToolPackinMama> k
[08:44] <Clint-> i heard about it, and all the other spill
[08:44] <nanotube> ToolPackinMama, and find the section (toward the top) that talks about "set the default entry"
[08:44] <zcat[1] > I was going to download it when it was on /. the other day.. but it was slashdotted :(
[08:44] <nanotube> ToolPackinMama, there you will find a line that looks like "default 0"
[08:45] <nanotube> ToolPackinMama, and change that to look like "default whatevernumberyouwant"
[08:45] <zcat[1] > gonna taker a look sometime anyhow
[08:45] <nanotube> ToolPackinMama, and then save
[08:45] <pvd2006> isnt sources.list suppose to be in /etc?
[08:45] <nanotube> pvd2006, no, its in /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[08:45] <pvd2006> ohhh
[08:45] <pvd2006> haha
[08:46] <ToolPackinMama> ok
[08:46] <Clint-> dang, I would download FreeBSD 6.1 now, however, starts off at , 2 gb, then drops, to 50 kb/s and so on
[08:46] <nanotube> Clint-, hehe, yea, bsd is pretty rockin fast. i ran a 1 MBps 24/7 upload file server on freebsd on a pII 266 back in college - it could handle that load with no problems at all.
[08:47] <Clint-> hee
[08:47] <Clint-> its gettin better..
[08:47] <Mysta> can you search wikipedia from the terminal????
[08:47] <Clint-> for desktop too :)
[08:47] <Mysta> or at least ubuntu's wikipedia???
[08:47] <Mysta> im sorry ubuntu's wiki
[08:47] <nanotube> Mysta, if you use a text-mode browser. a good one is called "elinks", you can install it from the repositories
[08:47] <Clint-> I would love, to build some ports, for ubuntu, and make them both friends :-)
[08:47] <pvd2006> ok so now I have universe enabled for dapper, and now I need to enable multiverse for dapper.
[08:48] <ToolPackinMama> thank you
[08:48] <pvd2006> I see dapper-backports
[08:48] <kane__> does anyone know about some virtual cd/dvd program?? something like deamon tools??
[08:48] <pvd2006> I guess that is what I am looking for
[08:48] <nanotube> kane__, what do you mean "virtual" ? you want to mount a disk image, you mean?
[08:48] <kane__> nanotube, yes...
[08:49] <nanotube> kane__, well, you dont need anything special. you can just use command "mount" to mount an iso disk image
[08:49] <LinuxNIT-I> hey guys so i just installed ubuntu on my laptop... can i not get the 2.6.15 kernel?
[08:49] <Clint-> nanotube, , theres no doubt about it being rockin fast, only problem is, its hardware support, once that gets better, I gurantee there will be alot moving to freeBSD
[08:49] <satlan32> mmm i'm trying to install SIPp but it say: root@sipserver:/usr/src/sipp# make
[08:49] <satlan32> -bash: make: command not found
[08:49] <kane__> nanotube, OK... thanx...
[08:49] <Mysta> if my root account is disabled, how is my apache server able to run as user 'root' and be in the group 'root'???????
[08:49] <nanotube> kane__, just need proper options to it. something with "loop" and stuff. i dont recall the right command, but you can search the ubuntuforums.org website and come up with a post about it
[08:49] <Ademan> how bad of an idea is it to allow the www to access your samba server?
[08:49] <kane__> nanotube, thanx anyway...
[08:50] <nanotube> Mysta, only a login as user root is disabled. there is still such a thing as "root privileges" which can be used.
[08:50] <Ademan> because vsftpd is REALLY not cooperating...
[08:50] <Mysta> hmm, then I'm confused
[08:50] <nanotube> satlan32, you need to install package "build-essential" to install make, gcc, and all the other build goodies
[08:50] <nanotube> satlan32, run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[08:50] <Ademan> tell Mysta about root
[08:50] <Ademan> dang, how does that work again?
[08:51] <Ademan> .tell Mysta about root
[08:51] <Ademan> :-/
[08:51] <Mysta> !tell
[08:51] <nanotube> Ademan, use exclamation
[08:51] <satlan32> thanks nanotibe
[08:51] <Mysta> lol
[08:51] <satlan32> nanotube
[08:51] <nanotube> satlan32, no prob ;)
[08:51] <Clint-> hey nanotube
[08:51] <Ademan> ah, lol, thanks
[08:51] <LinuxNIT-I> can i get the 2.6.15 kernel in ubuntu?
[08:51] <Mysta> tell me about root
[08:51] <nanotube> Clint-, yo
[08:51] <crimsun> LinuxNIT-I: in Dapper, yes.
[08:51] <Ademan> so anyways, is samba unsecure? is it really a bad idea to expose it to the internet?
[08:51] <Clint-> heck, if you want to do. dapper latest, you can get, 2.6.22
[08:51] <Mysta> !tell me about root
[08:51] <Clint-> : P
[08:51] <crimsun> 2.6.22?
[08:51] <nanotube> mysta, you can just type "!root" and ubotu will tell you about root
[08:52] <nanotube> for example:
[08:52] <nanotube> !root
[08:52] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:52] <Clint-> hey nanotube , know whats up, with, folder picture options on dapper alpha 7
[08:52] <Clint-> I'm going mess with FreeBSD 6.1 now
[08:52] <watson540> yeah i removed gdm for that reason too
[08:52] <nanotube> Ademan, well, if you are just passing the files through to www, there is really no problem with it, i'd say
[08:53] <satlan32> nanotube, i think i'm missing curses.h
[08:53] <bk> what is a file manager window?
[08:53] <LinuxNIT-I> crimsun, sorry i have not used ubuntu in a loooong time. i assume dapper is like a unstabler version right?
[08:53] <Mysta> nanotube, so is it ok that my apache server is running as root?
[08:53] <nanotube> Clint-, i use breezy, so dont know about dapper fancy shmancy stuff. :)
[08:53] <pvd2006> can someone take a look at my sources.list for dapper and see if I have mutliverse and universe enabled correctly? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14158
[08:53] <crimsun> LinuxNIT-I: it's the current development version that releases in roughly 2 1/2 weeks
[08:53] <pvd2006> all I did was uncomment a few lines
[08:53] <nanotube> Mysta, ehrm, well... it's really better to have it running as its own special user (such as httpd, or www, or whatever) rather than as root.
[08:54] <LinuxNIT-I> crimsun, heh looks like i shoulda waited
[08:54] <LinuxNIT-I> :D
[08:54] <Hobbsee> pvd2006: universe yes, multiverse no
[08:54] <Hobbsee> !tell pvd2006 about repos
[08:54] <livingdaylight> anyone here use Opera,
[08:54] <livingdaylight> ?
[08:54] <crimsun> livingdaylight: sure
[08:54] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[08:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[08:54] <Mysta> nanotube, so i want to create a new user? and give him rights to all directories that apache would access?
[08:54] <Jeaton> Clint- I'll be using it for a mixture of both
[08:54] <livingdaylight> crimsun; cool
[08:55] <Clint-> same here
[08:55] <WarOfAttrition> Does anyone know of a good place to find linux development documentation?
[08:55] <Jeaton> mainly for servers, but I'll be doing some desktop things
[08:55] <livingdaylight> crimsun: how do i get flashplugin in opera so ican watch vids
[08:55] <crimsun> livingdaylight: install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:55] <nanotube> Mysta, yes, that's the general idea. but i would have thought that when you install apache from the repositories, it would automatically create a new user and all that. but i guess if not, then you have to create the user yourself.
[08:55] <crimsun> !info flashplugin-nonfree dapper
[08:55] <Jeaton> kinda why i stuck with slackware for awhile, i like the bareboneness
[08:55] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.63.3ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[08:55] <crimsun> (hmph, not updated yet)
[08:56] <livingdaylight> crimsun: using breezy
[08:56] <nanotube> satlan32, hmm, don't know where that's supposed to be. maybe in linux-headers package?
[08:56] <Jeaton> i figured since i got a better computer, ill check out the desktop area of linux
[08:56] <Ademan> nanotube: thats all its really for, but i've exposed a couple other directories (like a communal "share" folder that people in my "family" group can do whatever they want with)
[08:56] <satlan32> i remember when i installed it before i have to install ncurses or somthing like this
[08:56] <crimsun> livingdaylight: same package
[08:56] <nanotube> pvd2006, change your line that looks like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" to make it "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse"
[08:57] <LinuxNIT-I> crimsun, to get dapper can i just change breezy to dapper in the sources.list
[08:57] <LinuxNIT-I> ?
[08:57] <nanotube> satlan32, maybe ncurses-dev package or something like that?
[08:57] <crimsun> !tell LinuxNIT-I about upgrade
[08:57] <LinuxNIT-I> hehe thanks
[08:57] <Mysta> nanotube: thanks, u know much about 686-smp? I'm trying to gather info b/c my 1st attempt at getting it to work failed. crimsun suggested I boot w/ acpi disabled, which I will try tomorrow
[08:57] <WarOfAttrition> Looking for documentation about implementing Xv extention in applications, any good place on the net to find that?
[08:57] <ToolPackinMama> hi everybody
[08:57] <Mysta> hello
[08:58] <livingdaylight> crimsun: as i thought, i already have it installed which is why i can watch YouTube for example in Firefox. But not in Opera? hmpf
[08:58] <pvd2006> nanotube I just copied http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 to my sources.list
[08:58] <LinuxNIT-I> crimsun, thanks
[08:58] <ToolPackinMama> RE: editing GRUB, I was successful, thanks
[08:58] <crimsun> livingdaylight: have Opera rescan for plugins
[08:58] <nanotube> Mysta, well, i dont run an smp kernel myself - but generally, it doesnt seem that smp gives you much of a performance boost over non-smp besides a few specific things, so you could be quite ok just running a regular kernel. no need to spend much time on getting smp to work.
[08:58] <livingdaylight> crimsun: please tell me how?  :p
[08:58] <pvd2006> nanotube which was basically the same exact thing
[08:58] <livingdaylight>  '<
[08:58] <pvd2006> thanks though:)
[08:58] <nanotube> Ademan, just remember that as long as they are up on the www, anyone can see it - so dont put like private files there.
[08:59] <ToolPackinMama> I want to put ubuntu on my laptop now!
[08:59] <WarOfAttrition> Seriously, I can't find a single thing about implementing Xv
[08:59] <pvd2006> This is ridiculousy fast
[08:59] <pvd2006> :-x
[08:59] <Mysta> nanotube: even if an application was programmed for dual processor optimization?
[08:59] <nanotube> pvd2006, well, you will notice that it is not the same. specifically, they have the line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse" - which is exactly what i told you you had to put in in order to have multiverse enabled. :)
[08:59] <therunnyman> now wait a minute, nanotube, do you mean to tell me I shuldn't be posting my passwords as a text file on my personal webspace, MySpace, Friendster, and so on?
[09:00] <slackern> Ademan: http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap29sec284.html you can select which interfaces that it should be available on
[09:00] <crimsun> livingdaylight: Tools> Preferences> Advanced> Content> Plugins
[09:00] <pvd2006> nanotube, yeah that was what I was referring to, hehe.
[09:00] <nanotube> Mysta, heh, well, like i said - except for some specific things - namely, applications optimized for smp processors. :)
[09:00] <pvd2006> firefox loads in like 1 second or less now which is crazy.
[09:00] <crimsun> livingdaylight: this is in Opera 9 beta 1, btw
[09:00] <LinuxNIT-I> how do i enable the root user?
[09:00] <nanotube> therunnyman, haha yes, unless you want other people to know your passwords. :)
[09:00] <Mysta> nanotube: ok, thanks for the info, off to bed 'night everyone!
[09:00] <zcat[1] > LinuxNIT-I: you don't. Use sudo
[09:01] <livingdaylight> crimsun: yes, running Opera vs9b, but i click onFind and it doesn't find any new ones
[09:01] <nanotube> Mysta, goodnight.
[09:01] <nanotube> pvd2006, nice. ;)
[09:01] <therunnyman> nanotube: oh cripes...I better go take those down.  Thanks for the heads up!
[09:01] <LinuxNIT-I> i dont like using sudo for everything.... how do i enable the root user?
[09:01] <pvd2006> nanotube, I wonder why it loads so much faster if its just because its xfce or because its dapper
[09:01] <crimsun> livingdaylight: what does Tools> Advanced> Plug-ins show?
[09:01] <pvd2006> or both
[09:01] <livingdaylight> LinuNIT-I sudo su
[09:01] <LinuxNIT-I> livingdaylight, thanks
[09:02] <nanotube> pvd2006, well, firefox 107 in breezy was notorious for its slowness. so a large part of it could be because of dapper and firefox 1.5.**
[09:02] <nanotube> pvd2006, but i suppose the lightness of xfce could have a positive impact as well
[09:02] <nanotube> LinuxNIT-I, try looking at
[09:02] <nanotube> !sudo
[09:02] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:03] <nanotube> therunnyman, heh
[09:03] <pvd2006> so I guess I need to update my package list with apt-get update
[09:03] <Ademan> actually if anyone has a working vsftpd.conf file that allows local users to log in and view the entire file system that would be much appreciated
[09:04] <LinuxNIT-I> nanotube, yes i know what sudo does and how it can be used without a root user and i have heard the advantages of it.... i just dont like it.... i prefer having a root user
[09:04] <nanotube> Ademan, my question is - why dont you just use ssh instead? ssh is really a much better idea than ftp.
[09:04] <livingdaylight> crimsun: Adobe Reader; Helix; NS4 Plugin Proxy; Shockwave Flash
[09:04] <crimsun> livingdaylight: looks like Flash is at least recognised
[09:04] <nanotube> LinuxNIT-I, that page i pointed you to will also tell you how to enable the root user. :)
[09:05] <LinuxNIT-I> thanks
[09:05] <nanotube> LinuxNIT-I, first, it will try to convince you how good sudo is - but then it will say ok, if you wanna enable the root user, then sure, go ahead and this is how you do it. ;)
[09:05] <livingdaylight> crimsun?
[09:05] <Ademan> nanotube: i didnt realize ssh was anything but a transfer protocol for general data
[09:05] <LinuxNIT-I> :D
[09:05] <crimsun> livingdaylight: does say, http://homestarrunner.com work?
[09:05] <nanotube> Ademan, ehrm, so is ftp - a transfer protocol for general data.
[09:05] <livingdaylight> crimsun: do you mean Shockwave Flash?
[09:05] <nanotube> Ademan, ssh has an extension of "sftp" which allows you to transfer files too
[09:06] <untung> hi, anybody know how to setup network printer in Ubuntu?
[09:06] <Ademan> nanotube: see thats what i meant... like i thought ssh + http = https, ssh + ftp = sftp
[09:06] <Ademan> but regardless, i dont know, i dont know enough about all this, heck i cant even get my damn ftp server up
[09:06] <livingdaylight> crimsun: again the image works fine but still no sound
[09:07] <nanotube> Ademan, so if you have an ssh server running on a computer, you can just say "sftp server.com" and it's the same as ftping, only secure, and without any configuration headaches.
[09:07] <citron> bb dudes.
[09:07] <Ademan> hrm
[09:07] <Ademan> i suppose i should try that
[09:07] <nanotube> Ademan, heh, actually, https is not http+ssh, its http+ssl, which is different. ;) but that's kind of besides the point.
[09:07] <pvd2006> What is the command to find out what partitions you have?
[09:07] <Ademan> anyways
[09:07] <pvd2006> I thought it was like fdisk -l
[09:07] <nanotube> Ademan, yes, you should. just run "sudo apt-get install ssh", that will install ssh server. and then it will be like magic. ;)
[09:07] <ToolPackinMama> Can I see my NTFS partitions?
[09:08] <nanotube> pvd2006, yes, it is fdisk -l
[09:08] <crimsun> livingdaylight: close all other sound apps first
[09:08] <Ademan> do most clients support sftp?
[09:08] <nanotube> pvd2006, but you might have to run it as sudo for best results
[09:08] <pvd2006> nanotube, it doesnt list anything for me
[09:08] <pvd2006> ohh ok
[09:08] <pvd2006> thats it
[09:08] <nanotube> pvd2006, :)
[09:08] <Ademan> because really this is mostly so i can access my files from school
[09:08] <nanotube> Ademan, well, any clients that support ssh can. if its just a plain ftp client, without ssh support, it wont be able to do it.
[09:08] <livingdaylight> crimsun: does having FireFox open conflict?
[09:09] <pvd2006> ha cool, its already mounted
[09:09] <pvd2006> no need for me to even mount it
[09:09] <nanotube> but chances are, your school comps have an ssh client installed, and that would come with sftp support.
[09:09] <crimsun> livingdaylight: if it's also playing a Flash applet, yes
[09:09] <pvd2006> Dapper is really nice
[09:09] <nanotube> pvd2006, that's what we like to hear. ;)
[09:09] <livingdaylight> crimsun, not currently, no
[09:09] <pvd2006> nanotube: are you a ubuntu devel?
[09:10] <nanotube> pvd2006, hehe no, just a user. but i've been using/admining bsd and linux for quite a few years now.
[09:10] <pvd2006> Ooohh ok, Im still pretty new, only 3 months here.
[09:10] <crimsun> livingdaylight: if at any time it did, it will conflict
[09:11] <nanotube> pvd2006, i'm using ubuntu since about january 2006 - so, 4-5 months. but all that previous *nix usage comes in handy. ;)
[09:11] <help> q
[09:11] <nanotube> help, whatsup
[09:12] <help> nothing
[09:12] <nanotube> help, heh ic
[09:12] <satlan32> hi all
[09:12] <satlan32> i have an error when installing .deb file
[09:12] <satlan32> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14159
[09:13] <pvd2006> one thing though, my sound doesnt seem to be working. I have an audigy sound card.
[09:13] <pvd2006> its listed on the list of soundcards though
[09:13] <crimsun> pvd2006: cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:14] <pvd2006> crimsun: alright done.
[09:14] <pvd2006> I see my card listed in th ere
[09:14] <livingdaylight> crimsun: how is this resoved?
[09:14] <nanotube> satlan32, well, first, upgrade your libncurses5 to the right version, then try the -dev install again
[09:14] <gumara> hi i find the irc ubuntu local support for thailand. some body can help me?
[09:14] <nanotube> it's easiest to just do it with apt-get or synaptic, instead of using dpkg (unless you have no net connection on that machine)
[09:14] <satlan32> i have
[09:15] <satlan32> can you give me the command?
[09:15] <crimsun> livingdaylight: close firefox and any other sound apps first, or use aoss opera (from alsa-oss in universe)
[09:15] <satlan32> i tried using the pat-get
[09:15] <crimsun> pvd2006: that doesn't help /me/ though
[09:15] <satlan32> apt-get install ncurses-dev
[09:15] <satlan32> ?
[09:15] <livingdaylight> crimsun: i've closed Firefox
[09:15] <crimsun> livingdaylight: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[09:15] <pvd2006> crimsun: what info did you want from that?
[09:15] <crimsun> pvd2006: the actual output
[09:15] <pvd2006> do you want me to pastebin it?
[09:15] <crimsun> yes
[09:15] <pvd2006> k
[09:16] <nanotube> satlan32, first, run "sudo apt-get update" then run "sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev" this should pull all dependencies automatically
[09:16] <livingdaylight> crimsun; do i type that in command line? what is that for?
[09:16] <khermans> why isnt aptitude being touted over apt-get these days?
[09:16] <khermans> i never use apt-get
[09:16] <satlan32> :) cheers
[09:16] <nanotube> satlan32, in general, have to run apt-get with sudo...
[09:16] <cradek> !w32codecs
[09:17] <nanotube> khermans, because aptitude keeps track of dependencies better (as in, when you uninstall, it also uninstalls unneeded dependencies, but apt-get does not)
[09:17] <crimsun> livingdaylight: same thing, info for me; pastebin it
[09:17] <satlan32> Package libncurses5-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:17] <satlan32> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:17] <satlan32> is only available from another source
[09:17] <satlan32> E: Package libncurses5-dev has no installation candidate
[09:17] <asi113> pepe
[09:17] <livingdaylight> crimsun: i've installed aoss
[09:17] <pvd2006> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14160
[09:18] <crimsun> satlan32: comment out the cdrom and add main?
[09:18] <livingdaylight> crimsun, what info do you want me to pastebin to  you?
[09:18] <satlan32> ??
[09:18] <crimsun> livingdaylight: ...output from the lsof command...
[09:18] <khermans> nanotube, yeah so my point is hy aren't people using aptitude versus apt-get!?!?!
[09:18] <asi115> que pasa lo lees
[09:18] <asi113> su cola
[09:18] <nanotube> satlan32, i think he means to remove the cdrom repository from your sources.list
[09:18] <crimsun> khermans: force of habit, probably
[09:19] <khermans> nanotube, everyone should be using aptitude, not apt-get
[09:19] <OrTigaS> how to enable my sound?
[09:19] <satlan32> how to?
[09:19] <nanotube> khermans, ehrm... just because synaptic+apt-get is the default. but yes, everyone would be better off with aptitude. :)
[09:19] <crimsun> pvd2006: your audigy is your secondary card. Is it set properly in ~/.asoundrc* ? Are you using Breezy or Dapper?
[09:19] <pvd2006> crimsun: dapper
[09:19] <crimsun> OrTigaS: more context please?
[09:19] <pvd2006> xubuntu
[09:19] <crimsun> pvd2006: pastebin ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf
[09:19] <khermans> nanotube, crimsun, i think it would propogate more is people started replacing apt-get with aptitude in the docs and on the wiki
[09:19] <MoreToLife-JHB> is there a problem with current repositories ? I am getting no such file or folder errors
[09:19] <OrTigaS> crimsun,  my speaker wont work
[09:19] <nanotube> satlan32, do you run breezy or dapper?
[09:20] <crimsun> OrTigaS: and what type of sound card is it
[09:20] <crimsun> ?
[09:20] <satlan32> how do i know?
[09:20] <nanotube> khermans, probably so. well, then, whenever you write a piece of documentation or something, feel free to use aptitude. there is no downside to using aptitude.
[09:21] <nanotube> satlan32, run command "cat /etc/issue"
[09:21] <satlan32> ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[09:21] <pvd2006> crimsun: I dont have a ~/.asoundrc or .asoundconf
[09:21] <nanotube> satlan32, ah, then its breezy. breezy = 5.10
[09:21] <satlan32> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"
[09:21] <livingdaylight> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14161
[09:21] <pvd2006> I did ls -a to list all files under ~/
[09:21] <satlan32> run this to unmount?
[09:21] <satlan32> sudo umount /media/cdrom0/
[09:21] <OrTigaS> intel soundcard
[09:22] <crimsun> pvd2006: then use this: asoundconf set-default-card Audigy
[09:22] <OrTigaS> AC'97
[09:22] <crimsun> pvd2006: then pastebin the output from amixer
[09:22] <satlan32> nano, after unmounting the cdrom, still the same
[09:23] <crimsun> livingdaylight: System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable software sound mixing temporarily
[09:23] <nanotube> satlan32, right. well, in that case... here is my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14162
[09:23] <asi115> hay algun espaol????
[09:23] <khermans> nanotube, i do!  I helped write the XGL howto -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[09:23] <nanotube> satlan32, no, its nothing to do with mounting. :) its about repositories
[09:24] <nanotube> khermans, cool :)
[09:24] <crimsun> OrTigaS: pastebin output from lspci -v && lspci -nv
[09:24] <nanotube> asi115, si, un poco.
[09:24] <kane__> do you know of way I can sample the color from anywhere on my desktop??
[09:24] <kane__> some simple color picker
[09:24] <satlan32> so what do i need to do to make it work :)?
[09:24] <pvd2006> crimsun:  asoundconf set-default-card Audigy didnt work, it told me the command usage
[09:24] <nanotube> satlan32, so, run "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup" (to make a copy for backup), then "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and kill what you have in there, and paste what i pasted for you in the pastebin, and save
[09:25] <MoreToLife-JHB> Can anyone tell me why I am getting no such file or folder errors on the default repositories ?
[09:25] <OrTigaS> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[09:25] <crimsun> pvd2006: and you're using Dapper?
[09:25] <pvd2006> crimsum, yes
[09:25] <nanotube> that will give you my sources.list file. then you can run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev" again and see.
[09:25] <pvd2006> xubuntu
[09:25] <asi115> de donde eres???
[09:25] <crimsun> pvd2006: dpkg -l alsa-utils |grep ^ii
[09:25] <OrTigaS> sounds working when in root
[09:25] <crimsun> OrTigaS: groups |grep audio
[09:26] <OrTigaS> but when 1st user it  wont
[09:26] <livingdaylight> crimsun; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14163
[09:26] <satlan32> ok it's running update
[09:26] <pvd2006> crimsun: alsa-utils     1.0.10-1ubuntu9 ALSA utilities
[09:26] <pvd2006>  I do have the program, its just that  asoundconf set-defaultcard audigy displays asoundconf's usage instead of running it.
[09:26] <nanotube> satlan32, cool. let's see if it actually installs. :)
[09:26] <satlan32> how do i do automatin update
[09:27] <khermans> what is the apt command to check what package a binary belongs to?  like say passwd?
[09:27] <nanotube> satlan32, you mean like, security updates and stuff?
[09:27] <satlan32> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:27] <satlan32> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:27] <crimsun> pvd2006: you're outdated.
[09:27] <nanotube> satlan32, and basically, update everything you have to new versions?
[09:27] <pvd2006> ah?
[09:27] <crimsun> pvd2006: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:27] <pvd2006> so I need to do a distro upgrade?
[09:27] <khermans> satlan32, ps -e | grep -i apt
[09:27] <crimsun> pvd2006: this needs to be asked in #ubuntu+1
[09:27] <satlan32> ??
[09:27] <nanotube> satlan32, ah, do you happen to have another instance of apt-get, or synaptic, running? that's why it would generally have a lock
[09:27] <crimsun> livingdaylight: pkill esd
[09:28] <crimsun> livingdaylight: then try the Flash applet/movie again
[09:28] <rafael> Algum pode me ajudar??
[09:28] <nanotube> rafael, portuguese? :)
[09:28] <satlan32> mmm yes i see it on the VMWARE
[09:28] <zcat[1] _> not a good idea to blindly kill off an apt that might be doing something..
[09:28] <satlan32> i will let it run the updates from there first
[09:28] <khermans> satlan32, if nothing else is running, do -> rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:28] <rafael> nanotube, yes!
[09:28] <Mary> hello!!!!
[09:28] <pvd2006> crimsun: I am upating, I will try that command again afterwards then ask further questions in ubuntu+1
[09:28] <asi115> helo!!!!
[09:28] <nanotube> satlan32, yea, let it finish its stuff before you start another apt-get. :)
[09:29] <satlan32> :)
[09:29] <pvd2006> thanks for your help
[09:29] <satlan32> cheers
[09:29] <livingdaylight> crimsun: uncheck 'enable sound server startup' under the 'general' tab?
[09:29] <Ademan> nanotube i know you recomended ssh, but what abotu webDAV ? worthless?
[09:29] <nanotube> rafael, well, yo se un poco de espanol, es mas o menos similar a portuguese, voy a tratar :)
[09:29] <livingdaylight> crimsun: i don't see 'enable software found mixing temporarily
[09:29] <nanotube> satlan32, so, it worked? :)
[09:30] <zcat[1] _> also not a good idea to manually delete the lock file either.. if it's pointing to a nonexistent PID then it should take care of itself. If the PID still exists the lock file is there for a reason.
[09:30] <satlan32> it's running the updates now...
[09:30] <asi115> hablarme alguien
[09:30] <rafael> enton, yo no consigo mandar uns arquivos para um disquete
[09:30] <nanotube> satlan32, ah cool.
[09:30] <zcat[1] _> !es
[09:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:30] <Mary> hola wapo
[09:30] <crimsun> livingdaylight: you must be on Breezy?
[09:30] <livingdaylight> crimsun: indeed
[09:30] <crimsun> livingdaylight: then it's called Enable sound server startup
[09:31] <hendry> my fresh install of Ubuntu's time is wrong. How do i fix it?
[09:31] <high-freq> ok....can someone plz tell me how to get this pcmcia/cardbus  to detect....i've done everything howto's said to do...but to luck...its like pcmcia isn't working...but it detects a card in there
[09:31] <asi115> hola wuapetona
[09:31] <high-freq> and where is this pcmciautils?
[09:31] <livingdaylight> yes, i uncheck that? and then pklll esd in cli?
[09:31] <asi115> d donde eres????
[09:31] <Mary> estoy caliente
[09:32] <nanotube> rafael, disquete esta "mount"ada?
[09:32] <asi115> yo tengo el salchicho yeno de amor
[09:32] <gobiofuel> i have a laptop 566 mhz with ubuntu hoary and i accidentally added a dapper repository and upgraded, now my mozilla is screwed. All this stuff was updated for Dapper. How do I undo the best? Even my 386 linux image was changed to 686. can someone please help?
[09:33] <asi115> el salchichon yeno de amor
[09:33] <Mary> yo tengo la almeja caliente
[09:33] <asi115> yo te doy amor
[09:33] <rafael> nanotube, yo no conheu muy bien linux! uso a pouco tiempo.
[09:34] <livingdaylight> crimsun: pkill esd and still no sound  :|
[09:34] <MoreToLife-JHB> where should sources.list be located ?
[09:34] <crimsun> livingdaylight: what if you use ``aoss opera''?
[09:34] <zcat[1] _> MoreToLife-JHB: /etc/apt
[09:34] <Mary> de donde eres??
[09:34] <livingdaylight> aoss opera?
[09:35] <MoreToLife-JHB> odd I dont have one
[09:35] <crimsun> livingdaylight: yes, that's a command
[09:35] <nanotube> rafael, tal vez este url sera util: http://www.alwanza.com/howto/linux/floppy.html
[09:36] <gobiofuel> i have a laptop 566 mhz with ubuntu hoary and i accidentally added a dapper repository and upgraded, now my mozilla is screwed. All this stuff was updated for Dapper. How do I undo the best? Even my 386 linux image was changed to 686. can someone please help?
[09:36] <zcat[1] _> very odd.
[09:36] <nanotube> rafael, en ingles, pero tabun puedes comprender. :)
[09:36] <rafael> nanotube, o.k. nanotube, thanks
[09:37] <Draco> every time I type "e" in a terminal it pastes a line I previously copied ?
[09:37] <nanotube> Mary, asi115 take your sex talk somewhere else.
[09:38] <asi115> de almodovar del campo y tu????
[09:38] <Pimpshizzled> aint got a couple of net perv's in ere have we?
[09:38] <Pimpshizzled> lol, ahh well, cant understand him, im not bothered
[09:38] <asi115> te gusta el caxondeo???
[09:38] <nanotube> Pimpshizzled, haha
[09:39] <asi115> por que yo estoy dispuesto a lo que sea
[09:39] <Pimpshizzled> nanotube, what the heck is he expecting to talk about in here?
[09:39] <livingdaylight> crimsun: lol, still no sound, but now no image either!
[09:40] <Pimpshizzled> nanotube, do you use ubuntu?
[09:40] <crimsun> livingdaylight: works fine here.
[09:40] <drumline> I just switched from a CRT to an LCD and now I get a "out of range" message on my LCD monitor.  How can I correct this?
[09:40] <nanotube> Pimpshizzled, well,  yea, that's why i am on #ubuntu :)
[09:40] <Mary> osea q eres viciosillo
[09:40] <crimsun> livingdaylight: I'm in Dapper, though
[09:40] <asi115> si y tu???
[09:41] <Nameeater> drumline: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[09:41] <Pimpshizzled> nanotube, lol, im a bit new here, this is my second day using ubuntu, its pretty sweet, windows xp has recently been made my secondry boot because of it
[09:41] <zcat[1] _> drumline: ctrl-alt-F1 , log in to the text console and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:41] <livingdaylight> crimsun: why did it take the visual out?
[09:41] <drumline> you guys are awesome.  :)
[09:41] <Nameeater> what zcat[1] _ said :)
[09:41] <Pimpshizzled> nanotube, but tell me, is there anything you could suggest for me to improve gnome visually, anywhere i should have a good look?
[09:41] <nanotube> Pimpshizzled, heh nice
[09:41] <Pimpshizzled> nanotube, id love a bit of transpareny on here
[09:41] <zcat[1] _> Pimpshizzled: compiz !!
[09:42] <Blake79> what is the man for audio?  I have none?
[09:42] <nanotube> Pimpshizzled, well, i like the default gnome look myself ;) but you can look at gnome.org and look at their theme collection
[09:42] <Mary> un pokito
[09:42] <crimsun> livingdaylight: beats me, I don't have your precise config
[09:42] <Pimpshizzled> zcat[1] _, hey dude, lol, thanks for the help yesterday, all up and running now
[09:42] <asi115> de donde eres???
[09:42] <livingdaylight> how can i undo what has been done?
[09:42] <zcat[1] _> Pimpshizzled: join ubuntu-xgl and get compiz going, it's so cool!
[09:42] <nanotube> livingdaylight, that depends on what has been done. :)
[09:42] <LinuxNIT-I> does ubuntu have dialog?
[09:42] <livingdaylight> crimsun: so should work but doesn't . Enf of line aguesss
[09:43] <Pimpshizzled> zcat[1] _, compiz? lol i dunno what it is, but ill sure have a look
[09:43] <Mary> de cordoba
[09:43] <livingdaylight> nanotube: ohhh...yes, grasshopper...beryy wise... '<
[09:43] <zcat[1] _> wtf are these ppl speaking spanish in here for?
[09:43] <Pimpshizzled> it says it doesnt exist
[09:43] <Pimpshizzled> lol, im glad u recognised the language
[09:43] <asi115> y te gustan lo polvos espectaculares por que yo soy tu maxo
[09:43] <Pimpshizzled> cuss i didnt fo sure
[09:44] <nanotube> livingdaylight, hehe well yea, but seriously - how can i have any idea what you need, if you dont tell me more detail?
[09:44] <livingdaylight> crimsun: i've re-enebled sound for startup
[09:44] <Mary> y yo tu hembra
[09:44] <zcat[1] _> i'm guessing .. it looks like spanish.. i watched dora the Explorer once.. :)
[09:44] <magist3r> hi to all
[09:45] <magist3r> giorno
[09:45] <asi115> tienes la almeja llena de amor???
[09:45] <livingdaylight> nanotube: i was asking crimsun. He was helping me with getting sound inOpera but it failed to the point that i now don't even have image which had at least previously, which is why i asked to go back to where i was which was better than where we had got to :)
[09:45] <zcat[1] _> it has words like 'que' and 'soy' in it, it mush be spanish
[09:45] <Pimpshizzled> lol
[09:45] <HymnToLife> !it
[09:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:45] <Pimpshizzled> hey zcat, im in xgl
[09:45] <WarOfAttrition> if it's spanish they're not using proper punctuation
[09:45] <livingdaylight> crimsun: how to undo aoss opera?
[09:45] <Pimpshizzled> but whats it about?
[09:45] <magist3r> ooook
[09:45] <nanotube> livingdaylight, ah sorry, i thought you were asking a general question. :) i did not follow your earlier conversation...
[09:45] <crimsun> livingdaylight: just close opera
[09:46] <Pimpshizzled> ahh, its for dapper tho, im on breezy atm
[09:46] <Draco> Hi can someone help me please :) I seem to have done something that now wont let me use "e" in a terminal, I can use shift+E but lower case "e" is ignored
[09:46] <nanotube> WarOfAttrition, dude, it is spanish. and they are talking dirty
[09:46] <magist3r> i have a problem,synaptic think that firefox has as laterst version the 1.0.8
[09:46] <Mary> llena de to
[09:46] <livingdaylight> nanotube; my fault for not putting the name first on that occasion
[09:46] <Pimpshizzled> WarOfAttrition, hey dude =)
[09:46] <magist3r> how i can upgrade it?
[09:46] <nanotube> livingdaylight, no prob. it was just amusing. :)
[09:46] <unix_infidel> does ubuntu ship default with dmix set?
[09:46] <WarOfAttrition> nanotube<-- I thought there was supposed to be those upside down question marks at the beginning if it's spanish?
[09:47] <WarOfAttrition> hey Pimpshizzled
[09:47] <nanotube> magist3r, check out
[09:47] <nanotube> !ff15
[09:47] <ubotu> nanotube: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:47] <lwizardl> hi
[09:47] <nanotube> !updatefirefox
[09:47] <ubotu> nanotube: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:47] <asi115> yo es que por 2 cm no soy nacho vidal
[09:47] <nanotube> !firefoxnewversion
[09:47] <ubotu> firefoxnewversion is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:47] <zcat[1] _> !ff1.5
[09:47] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:47] <lwizardl> i'm trying to mount a fat32 usb drive in ubuntu 5.10 can someone help me
[09:47] <unix_infidel> anyone?? does ubuntu ship with dmix set to default?
[09:47] <zcat[1] _> !fat32
[09:47] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:47] <nanotube> WarOfAttrition, well, yea, but in irc or im, you aint gonna do that cuz its a pain.
[09:48] <Mary> yo por otros 2 no soy celia blanco
[09:48] <Draco> Hi can someone help me please :) I seem to have done something that now wont let me use "e" in a terminal, I can use shift+E but lower case "e" is ignored
[09:48] <magist3r> ok thank you for the link,i chet it now
[09:48] <livingdaylight> crimsun: it works now!!!
[09:48] <magist3r> check
[09:48] <crimsun> livingdaylight: good.
[09:48] <livingdaylight> crimsun: WOW!!! '<  :D
[09:49] <Draco> why do I always get the really freaky things that go wrong
[09:49] <livingdaylight> crimsun: You Da Man!!
[09:49] <calyth> there's this directory structure being served by apache, and I need to get JPEGs off his directory. I tried using wget, but it only saves the generated html, but not the images. is there a way to make wget do that?
[09:49] <Pimpshizzled> Draco, something like that happened to me when i dropped a cigarette on my D key ^^ lol, new keyboard ftw
[09:49] <livingdaylight> crimsun: you dog!!you...
[09:49] <mutante> Draco: its the evil reptoids?!
[09:49] <Blake79> What is the personal security manager and how do i install it?
[09:49] <asi115> bueno pero tu estas dispuesta a exar el polvo de tu vida
[09:49] <Draco> sumthin evil thats for sure but everywhere else my e works look eeeeeeeeeeee
[09:49] <zcat[1] _> calyth: httrack
[09:50] <calyth> thanks
[09:50] <Pimpshizzled> lol!
[09:50] <livingdaylight> crimsun: thx to you my Opera starting to really Rock!
[09:50] <Draco> does terminal have any sort of key mapping ?
[09:50] <WarOfAttrition> gotta love stalkers
[09:50] <mutante> calyth: -A,  --accept=LIST               comma-separated list of accepted extensions. -R,  --reject=LIST               comma-separated list of rejected extensions.
[09:50] <Pimpshizzled> Draco, i wouldnt have imagined so
[09:50] <livingdaylight> people: crimsun Rocks!
[09:50] <Blake79> what is Opera?
[09:51] <mutante> a browser
[09:51] <Blake79> The better one for linux?
[09:51] <Mary> por supuesto
[09:51] <nanotube> Draco, in your gnome terminal, go to edit>keyboard shortcuts
[09:51] <Draco> Pimpshizzled, any possibilities ? i have restarted, no luck still
[09:51] <mutante> Blake79: i prefer free Firefox
[09:51] <nanotube> Draco, and look around
[09:52] <Pimpshizzled> Draco, being as im new to linux draco, and a patient person too, if i was suffering the same problem, i would resolve it by beating my keyboard into the wall ^-^?
[09:52] <Draco> yeah thanks nanotube it thinks e is for paste *grin*
[09:52] <Blake79> i am using the mozilla with some issues.  I might try firefox....Does everyone here have media capabilities?  I just started with ubuntu this afternoon
[09:52] <nanotube> Draco, hehe ic. i wonder how that happened.
[09:53] <Blake79> Really getting the hang of it.   How about DVD's?  This stuff can be done with the right programs?
[09:53] <Draco> no clue but at least its fixed, thanks again
[09:53] <mutante> Blake79: i would recommend installing Firefox for http and Thunderbird for email as standalone packages, over the complete Mozilla all-in-one suite
[09:53] <nanotube> Draco, no prob. have fun. :)
[09:53] <Blake79> what about evolution?
[09:54] <Blake79> for e-mail
[09:54] <Atomizeus> has anyone tried setting up a dhcpd on ubuntu?
[09:54] <drumline> yeah...
[09:54] <mutante> cant tell ,didnt try it, was ok with Thunderbird
[09:54] <drumline> Atomizeus: having trouble?
[09:54] <nanotube> !tell Blake79 about restrictedformats
[09:54] <Atomizeus> drumline, I am now yeah
[09:54] <Atomizeus> it used to work fine
[09:54] <Blake79> are those in the multiverse area?
[09:54] <livingdaylight> crimsun: have you seen this one?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtekKlusXJ4
[09:54] <Atomizeus> but since the latest re-install it refuses to start
[09:54] <Blake79> thanks nano i've been looking for that
[09:55] <Atomizeus> says something about adding the network segment for it...
[09:55] <nanotube> Blake79, no prob. have fun. :) it will get you sorted out.
[09:55] <Atomizeus> which is weird
[09:55] <Atomizeus> server ip is: 157.215.43.79 (Blame my boyfriend for the strange IP :P)
[09:55] <Pimpshizzled> nanotube, since your on a roll mate, i got a really daft question for ya, but it has me in circles :P how do i set my mp3 so they automatically open in 'beep' media player?
[09:55] <toxin> hallo
[09:56] <nanotube> Pimpshizzled, right click on an mp3, select "openwith" and find beepmediaplayer in there.
[09:56] <drumline> Atomizeus: i suppose that address is one of those test ranges..
[09:56] <Atomizeus> the config is set to use 157.215.43.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 range: 157.215.43.85 157.215.43.250
[09:56] <nanotube> Pimpshizzled, that to make sure it shows up in the openwith list
[09:56] <Pimpshizzled> nanotube, done that a few times, it was the first thing i tried
[09:56] <asi115> entonces kieres o que
[09:56] <Blake79> mutante, i don't see thunderbird as apotential download?
[09:56] <toxin> i have a problem with my gaim messenger
[09:56] <nanotube> Pimpshizzled, then, right click on an mp3, select properties, select the "open with" tab, and check the radio button next to beep
[09:56] <Pimpshizzled> nanotube, it shows it 3 times, lol
[09:56] <dorel_> how do i change the default music player in gnome from rhythm box to something else like mplayer?
[09:57] <nanotube> Pimpshizzled, and that will make it open in beep automatically upon doubleclick.
[09:57] <Atomizeus> drumline: eek :S
[09:57] <Atomizeus> so I'll just have to play with the netmask, range, etc?
[09:57] <mutante> Blake79: uhm, i use "apt-get install" ,used to it from Debian, sorry i dont know the GUI
[09:57] <drumline> Atomizeus: checking my config
[09:57] <Pimpshizzled> nanotube, i might just uninstall totem, its doing my brain in, lol
[09:57] <nanotube> Pimpshizzled, haha 3 times eh. well that should make it easy to find in the "openwith" list in properties.
[09:57] <satlan32> nanotube. thanks for all the help. exerything is working for me now.
[09:57] <toxin> can someone help me?
[09:57] <mutante> Blake79: mozilla-thunderbird ?
[09:57] <Atomizeus> its weird that first time I created a config it worked fine, but the latest install doesn't :S
[09:57] <hastesaver> toxin, go ahead, ask your question
[09:57] <Blake79> i understand, it's all i've ever known  :)  I'll keep looking i'll find it.
[09:58] <nanotube> Pimpshizzled, to make totem more useful, do "sudo apt-get install totem-xine". that installs another backend for totem, that is able to play a lot more stuff. still not as good as mplayer, but decent. :)
[09:58] <toxin> if i want to connect to icq network there is an error message
[09:58] <nanotube> satlan32, cool! i'm glad it worked. :)
[09:58] <toxin> gaim wasn't able to connect you as "myicqnumber"
[09:58] <drumline> Atomizeus: dapper?
[09:58] <toxin> username is corrupt
[09:58] <Atomizeus> drumline, nope, breezy
[09:59] <toxin> me dunno what to do
[09:59] <Atomizeus> keeping everything stable for this network (once its up, I'll use a similar network structure for my work systems)
[09:59] <nanotube> Blake79, might have to enable the universe repository, before thunderbird shows up in synaptic or apt-get.
[09:59] <drumline> Atomizeus: so you upgraded the dhcpd package and then it went buggy?
[09:59] <AnAnt> is there a channel for support on creating debian/ubuntu packages ?
[09:59] <Atomizeus> no, I reinstalled the entire system
[09:59] <drumline> ahh..
[09:59] <toxin> idf i connect with for example kopete there is no problem
[09:59] <drumline> got it... well... 1 sec
[09:59] <Atomizeus> it went buggy since a fresh install O_o
[10:00] <Draco> quick question, would you guys recommend a newbie like me to use automatix for first time setup ?
[10:00] <dli> AnAnt, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
[10:00] <AnAnt> thx
[10:00] <senectus> does anyone know how to temp turn off XGL ?
[10:01] <dli> senectus, in your dm, turn off Xgl, and replace it with X
[10:01] <AnAnt> dli: well, I got a question, that's why I am asking about a channel
[10:01] <AnAnt> dli: I am createing a package for elinks-0.11.1
[10:01] <senectus> dli, _how_ do you turn it off?
[10:01] <magist3r> thank you,i resolved my problem,now i have 1.5 of firefox
[10:02] <AnAnt> dli: I used pbuilder
[10:02] <dli> senectus, where you turned it on
[10:02] <hastesaver> toxin, maybe the username *is* corrupt then? :) Check it again
[10:02] <nanotube> Draco, use easyubuntu instead. it's supposed to be a safer alternative (in some cases automatix doestn play nice with the system)
[10:02] <nanotube> !easyubuntu
[10:02] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[10:02] <AnAnt> dli: I want to know why it named the package: elinks_0.11-0.0upstream_i386.deb ?
[10:02] <Blake79> how about audio drivers and getting audio all together nano?
[10:02] <magist3r> bye all
[10:02] <Blake79> is there a manual for troubleshooting audio?
[10:02] <senectus> dli, It was too long ago I don't remember :-P
[10:02] <Draco> ok thanks nanotube
[10:02] <nanotube> Draco, no prob.
[10:02] <toxin> no... because, it works with another messenger same username @ hastesaver
[10:03] <PORDO> the password for my keyring stopped working...i'm _positive_ it's right.  how can i reset it?
[10:03] <dli> antix, pkg_ver_debver.deb
[10:03] <dli> AnAnt, pkg_ver_debver.deb
[10:04] <dli> AnAnt, read the howto
[10:04] <AnAnt> well, ver should be 0.11.1 !
[10:04] <AnAnt> not 0.11
[10:06] <Usiu> I am trying to use pbuilder-distribution to build on debian for ubuntu
[10:06] <drumline_> PORDO: it's designed to prevent that..  :(
[10:06] <Usiu> but I get E: Unknown suite dapper
[10:06] <Usiu> suite ?
[10:06] <PORDO> drumline_ even if i have physical access to my machine?  no...root should be able to over ride that.
[10:06] <AnAnt> Usiu: did u rub pbuilder create ?
[10:06] <AnAnt> rub=run
[10:07] <Usiu> thats the output
[10:07] <Usiu> I modyfied it.. ok Ill show you
[10:07] <drumline_> PORDO: you're talking about an RSA key that requires a passphrase to decrypt it?
[10:07] <Usiu> AnAnt, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/LVPMnn10.html
[10:07] <Usiu> thats the script
[10:08] <B0FH> hi i was wondering if it is possible to broadcast your own music station from linux? and if so is it easy to do?
[10:08] <Usiu> B0FH, ice cast
[10:08] <drumline_> word to usiu
[10:08] <Usiu> B0FH, http://www.icecast.org/
[10:09] <Usiu> drumline_, ?
[10:09] <drumline_> Usiu: isn't there some requirement to pay royalties now?
[10:09] <Senilix> B0FH: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/icecast2
[10:09] <anatomie> Hi, is anyone free and willing to help me with Ubuntu 5.10 installation on my laptop? I am in front of my laptop right now and trying to do it, but it keeps failing
[10:09] <Usiu> drumline_, what do you mean royalities ?
[10:09] <drumline_> PORDO: ?
[10:10] <Senilix> anatomie: how is it failing?
[10:10] <Usiu> drumline_, english is not my mother tounge language
[10:10] <drumline_> Usiu: royalties for playing music online.  That is, pay money for playing music online.
[10:10] <drumline_> anatomie: what is failing?
[10:10] <anatomie> the screen goes blank as soon as i attempt to install it
[10:10] <Usiu> drumline_, sure if You play not Your own music !
[10:10] <drumline_> Usiu: :)
[10:10] <AnAnt> Usiu: dunno
[10:10] <Ademan> what does it mean when i can connect to my ftp server through localhost, but not through my IP? (even though my comp is in the DMZ)
[10:11] <Usiu> drumline_, but if You are compositor You can do what You want with Your music :)
[10:11] <drumline_> Usiu: cool.
[10:11] <Usiu> :)
[10:11] <drumline_> anatomie: have you tried the dapper live cd?
[10:11] <anatomie> no, i havent.
[10:11] <anatomie> I'll give that a go right now.
[10:12] <WarOfAttrition> well people are making googly eyes, I got to go, have a good one
[10:12] <anatomie> thank you.
[10:13] <Blake79> i used sudo get-apt totem-xine (or something)  how do i actually install it? or is it already?  it only says totem
[10:13] <anatomie> quick question before i dwnld dapper (might take a while to do) - can you tell me how this will be different to what i am currently trying to do? (im fairly new to this)
[10:14] <drumline_> dapper should be out soon eh?
[10:14] <drumline_> anatomie: dapper will have changes and, hopefully, bugs worked out.
[10:14] <dizz1> right!
[10:14] <Hobbsee> drumline_: june 1, supposedly
[10:14] <drumline_> ahh sweet...
[10:14] <hastesaver> drumline_, It's usable already
[10:15] <Protocol1> I'll wait till its official
[10:15] <drumline_> anatomie: I'd actually post to the ubuntu forums...   Also, do a search to see if anyone else has experienced what you see.  My guess is that you're not the first person to see this.
[10:15] <toxin> th<@all
[10:15] <drumline_> hastesaver: nice...  I always like to wait for the releases..  :)
[10:15] <Blake79> ok, i have video, now audio....C'mon someone, i can get some sleep if i can grab audio
[10:15] <toxin> thhx
[10:15] <dizz1> I don't like that new log out icon! And you?
[10:16] <drumline_> waited for Suse 10.1...  I'll wait for 6.06
[10:16] <hastesaver> drumline_, me too, actually (I've just *heard* it's usable ;)
[10:16] <Protocol1> yeah...i preffer stability myself
[10:17] <anatomie> drumline: i did search the forums and google but couldnt find exaclty this problem. closest was someones screen freezing after installation not during. Attempting Dapper now. Is it the 6.06 version?
[10:18] <bobslaede> can somebody give me a hand with tuning my x.org so i can use my screen properly, instead of only running with 60hz
[10:19] <dizz1> drumline: try the daily build of dapper - the problem is already solved
[10:20] <lukasz> witam
[10:20] <lukasz> mam problem z instalacj skype
[10:20] <dizz1> bobslaede: what the g-card ?
[10:20] <lukasz> jestem nowym uzytkownikiem
[10:20] <bobslaede> dizz1: some nvidia card
[10:20] <Blake79> Can anyone help me with audio?
[10:20] <lukasz> czy moglby mi ktos pomoc?
[10:20] <dizz1> lukasz: you are wrong here!
[10:20] <bobslaede> GeForce 440 mx or some
[10:20] <lukasz> sorry i thought this is polish chat :)
[10:21] <Draco> is there a newer version than Ubuntu Breezy ?
[10:21] <lukasz> i am a new user of ubuntu
[10:21] <dizz1> bobslaede: if you re using dapper, install the "nvidia-glx" package
[10:21] <bobslaede> dizz1: it just bugs me, that my monitor only runs at 60hz, when i know i can run 75 or 80
[10:21] <bobslaede> dizz1: breezy
[10:22] <bobslaede> dizz1: and i got the nvidia drivers working
[10:22] <hastesaver> !pl
[10:22] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:22] <dizz1> bobslaede: wait
[10:22] <bobslaede> dizz1: im just not down with the whole xorg.conf stuff
[10:22] <dizz1> bobslaede: open that file as sudo
[10:23] <bobslaede> dizz1: done
[10:23] <bobslaede> dizz1: i got my HorizSync at 28-64, and VertRefresh 43-72
[10:23] <dizz1> bobslaede: there you will find "monitor" section
[10:24] <dizz1> bobslaede: is that what your monitor suports?
[10:24] <bobslaede> dizz1: theres the problem ;) i got no clue :p
[10:24] <dizz1> bobslaede: i guess not
[10:24] <bobslaede> dizz1: but i know it can do better than that
[10:25] <carney1979> hello
[10:25] <bobslaede> dizz1: 1280x1024@75hz atleast
[10:26] <dizz1> bobslaede: try to find in google the specifications of your monitor, and then type the new HorizSync and VertSync
[10:26] <bobslaede> allright
[10:27] <dizz1> bobslaede: after that restart the x and change screen resolution and refresh rate
[10:27] <blackline> Hi, I just got a Iomega 250gb drive and it automounts in Ubuntu (5.10). The drive is "read only" though, and I need to write. This is what I get when writing "mount" in terminal: "/dev/sda10 on /media/Iomega HDD type hfsplus (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000)"
[10:28] <bobslaede> dizz1: http://www.aoc-europe.com/monitors_ht731.html
[10:28] <dizz1> blackline: you should type it or it wont work
[10:28] <blackline> dizzl - type what?
[10:29] <bobslaede> dizz1: does 30-98 and 50-160 sound right?
[10:29] <snai> ciao a tt
[10:29] <snai> snai??
[10:30] <dizz1> bobslaede: i guess so!
[10:30] <bobslaede> cool! ill give it a try
[10:30] <dizz1> bobslaede: looks  good
[10:31] <dizz1> bobslaede: so replace the old values with this new
[10:31] <texjoachim> hi!
[10:31] <dizz1> bobslaede: save the file
[10:31] <texjoachim> can anyone here help me with a printing problem?
[10:31] <dizz1> bobslaede: but dont change anything there
[10:32] <bobslaede> dizz1: dont change anything where?
[10:32] <blackline> dizzl - what you mean.. what should i "type"
[10:32] <Chri[s] > is MacOS shell more like linux or unix ? or bsd
[10:32] <dizz1> bobslaede: close all apps and hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[10:32] <root> snai????
[10:32] <Chri[s] > is it a linux shell?
[10:32] <bobslaede> dizz1: :)
[10:32] <root> snai???
[10:32] <root> pici???
[10:32] <snai> pici????
[10:33] <root> snai????????????????
[10:33] <snai> lilli?????????
[10:33] <root> antonio?????
[10:33] <snai> lucio??
[10:33] <carney1979> Anybody else having trouble with their trash in Gnome? Specifically, the trash is always "empty", even when ~/.Trash is NOT empty....
[10:33] <orbin> carney1979: try reloading the applet
[10:33] <bobslaede> dizz1: this rocks! thanks a mill
[10:33] <root> conversano????
[10:33] <snai> cm si faci in pvt???
[10:33] <carney1979> orbin: tried MANY times. No luck..
[10:34] <megaman123> hi all... wnate to know how can i disable loading gnome on start up and bootup to vdr directly?
[10:35] <B0FH> anyone here good with this icecast thingy and can help me get set up? can you pm me if you can?
[10:35] <carney1979> orbin: Right now the applet points to my USB stick, even though it's not connected.
[10:35] <drumline_> anyone try the live CD of gparted?
[10:35] <Mathias-K> When i choose System --> Log Out, the menu comes up, but there are only four choices, Log Out, Switch User, Lock Screen and Hibernate. Restart and Shutdown are missing!
[10:36] <Mathias-K> Does anyone else have this problem?
[10:36] <bobslaede> dizz1: how come the image looks sharper at 75hz than 80?
[10:36] <XiXaQ> should I use sudo when I install netBeans?
[10:36] <Mathias-K> I'm running a fully updated Dapper
[10:36] <cyphase> Mathias-K, maybe you disabled them for non admin users
[10:36] <snai> ci sn italiani????
[10:36] <root> pipino
[10:36] <snai> snai
[10:36] <root> I'm italian
[10:36] <root> snai
[10:36] <cyphase> Mathias-K, or non-root
[10:36] <Mathias-K> well i've not really sure that i've done anything with it
[10:36] <root> Are you speak englush?
[10:36] <snai> yes
[10:37] <root> well..
[10:37] <Mathias-K> It's kinda wierd, the hibernate button is super wide and the other two are missing
[10:37] <root> what's your name?
[10:37] <cyphase> hmm
[10:37] <snai> Carlo
[10:37] <root> well
[10:37] <Flannel> Mathias-K: #ubuntu+1
[10:37] <root> how old are you?
[10:37] <root> carlo
[10:37] <snai> ,and you??
[10:37] <snai> 17
[10:37] <Mathias-K> Flannel: whats ubuntu + 1=
[10:37] <root> qua nn  arrivato un cazzo di et
[10:38] <Mathias-K> Another channel?
[10:38] <snai> 17 scarto
[10:38] <root> me too
[10:38] <Flannel> Mathias-K: it's the channel to discuss dapper, this is for breezy still.  #ubuntu+1
[10:38] <root> well
[10:38] <snai> ed ecco lui gn
[10:38] <Mathias-K> ahh, i didnt know that
[10:38] <Mathias-K> See you
[10:38] <AZZONE> aaz
[10:38] <snai> nculu a cita ,muertu
[10:38] <Flannel> snai, root, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[10:38] <snai> io ci so???
[10:38] <root> azzone crepa
[10:39] <root> lu cazzu
[10:39] <snai> ed ecco lui si crede ke lo scritto io
[10:39] <root> carlo
[10:39] <dizz1> bobslaede:  dunno
[10:39] <snai> t'innamorerai
[10:39] <AZZONE> sasizza
[10:39] <AZZONE> tagli
[10:39] <root> what school are you frequent?
[10:39] <snai> SNAI??
[10:39] <snai> PICI???
[10:39] <dizz1> bobslaede: :)
[10:39] <root> PICIICICICI?
[10:39] <snai> SCOGLIERA???
[10:39] <root> snai
[10:39] <root> ?
[10:39] <XiXaQ> hmm
[10:39] <snai> BIANCHINA??
[10:39] <root> pici?
[10:39] <Flannel> !ops
[10:39] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[10:39] <bobslaede> dizz1: :)
[10:39] <root> piccione straniero
[10:40] <PIPPO> cia
[10:40] <Hobbsee> english only, thanks
[10:40] <Flannel> holy cow, we've got staff in the ops thing now?
[10:40] <bobslaede> dizz1: thanks, alot better than 60hz anyways
[10:40] <XiXaQ> root and snai, could you take this chat somewhere else?
[10:40] <snai> CIAO briganti
[10:40] <PIPPO> ciao AZZONE
[10:40] <rob> Flannel, has been for a while now :)
[10:40] <Hobbsee> oh darn it...
[10:40] <Flannel> rob: 1ilo wasn't in it yesterday.  erm, maybe that was two days ago.
[10:41] <rob> oh, lilo isn't really involved with Ubuntu all that much, its just a highlight
[10:41] <Flannel> rob: yeah, hence the staff thing ;)
[10:41] <Hobbsee> hi rob
[10:41] <rob> I am though, before I was staff I was with Ubuntu (and still am)
[10:41] <rob> hi Hobbsee
[10:42] <dizz1> bobslaede: youre welcome
[10:43] <drumline_> rob: is the staff as cool as the community?  :)
[10:44] <rob> yeah, its hard work, but the freenode staff are great people
[10:44] <rob> and we all know Ubuntu rocks :)
[10:48] <Netcat> j gentoo
[10:48] <drumline_> rob: yes indeed.
[10:53] <Ademan_> what ports do i need to have open for vsftpd? (obviously tcp21) and 20... (udp or tcp?)  and then pasv ports as well i guess, anything else?
[10:54] <Usiu> /usr/bin/cdebootstrap
[10:54] <Usiu> E: Unknown suite dapper any help?
[10:55] <Senilix> Ademan_: try http://www.google.com/search?q=ftp+firewall+ports :)
[10:56] <drumline_> Ademan: there are some ftp daemon/firewall combos that will work with the firewall to close and open ports...
[10:56] <drumline_> for pasv
[10:57] <Ademan_> cool
[10:57] <BIzz> how come everytime I install programs using Synaptic i get following error  E: xubuntu-docs: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[10:57] <BIzz> E: xubuntu-desktop: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:57] <Ademan_> unfortunately i doubt i'd be able to use that because i'm behind 2 physical firewalls
[10:57] <Ademan_> eh?
[10:57] <drumline_> Ademan_: i think one option is to just open up a specific range in the 40k's for pasv and tell the ftp server demand pasv on those ports.
[10:57] <Ademan_> i quit?
[10:58] <hyphenated> BIzz: does it stop the program from installing correctly?
[10:58] <BIzz> no sir
[10:58] <drumline_> Ademan_: ah.. you'll probably need to use the ooption I just described then.
[10:58] <Ademan_> drumline: yeah, thats what i've done in the past
[10:58] <BIzz> but it bugs me that i have to press ok after every installl
[10:58] <Ademan_> unfortunately using that method i NEVER got pasv working
[10:58] <admin31> ??????????
[10:58] <hyphenated> BIzz: good, some similar errors _do_ stop things installing. I don't know how to fix it via the GUI, but if you're daring enough to use a shell..
[10:59] <zcat[1] _> open an ssh tunnel and you can forward whatever ports you want through it..
[10:59] <admin31> ?????????'
[10:59] <hyphenated> try a good ol' "sudo apt-get -f install" or something
[10:59] <BIzz> yes i am willling :)
[10:59] <BIzz> yikes whats with the triple ll's :-p
[10:59] <drumline_> Ademan_: probably was an FTP server issue not telling the clients to use the proper ports.  Did you debug with a pasv client and checking the port it was given by the server?
[10:59] <Ademan_> nope
[10:59] <Ademan_> lol
[10:59] <hyphenated> BIzz: typo caused by transmission errors, probly ;-)
[11:00] <BIzz> :)
[11:00] <drumline_> Ademan_: check it out.  :)
[11:00] <Ademan_> by the way, drumline: do you reccomend a particular range?
[11:00] <zcat[1] _> btw; passive is 'passive' or 'pas', not 'pasv' any more..
[11:00] <Ademan_> strange
[11:00] <drumline_> Ademan_: one with the least amount of known sweeping trojan traffic.  :)
[11:01] <drumline_> Ademan_: how many clients do you expect at a time?
[11:01] <Ademan_> < 10 , probably no more than 2 or 3
[11:01] <drumline_> oh...  you can probably get by with a pretty small range then...
[11:02] <Paul_88> dudes!!!!
[11:02] <Ademan_> yeah its really just so i can work on my site from school and whatnot
[11:02] <drumline_> how many concurrent connections allowed?
[11:02] <Paul_88> many dude!
[11:02] <Ademan_> i dont think my conf file specifies
[11:02] <drumline_> Ademan_: i'm certain it does
[11:03] <drumline_> Ademan_: if it doesn't, it should specify in the man page for the conf file.
[11:03] <BIzz> man i love this Xubuntu install on my laptop its fast! :-p
[11:03] <drumline_> BIzz: faster than KDE or Gnome?
[11:03] <Ademan_> drumline_: well, i'm sure it has a default value, but i dont override it in my conf
[11:03] <drumline_> BIzz: i should try the live cd then eh?
[11:03] <BIzz> i would say so...
[11:03] <drumline_> Ademan_: probably 3
[11:03] <Ademan_> drumline_: not on a laptop
[11:04] <BIzz> its a 700mhz and it load in about less than 2 mins
[11:04] <BIzz> i mean GUI and all
[11:04] <Ademan_> i still have yet to get my ubuntu install to work on my laptop, friggin pcmcia problems
[11:04] <Overand> Heh- is there a specific channel for ubuntu-on-mac?  =] 
[11:04] <Ademan_> and my chipset doesnt have the hardware random number generators
[11:04] <BIzz> while Kubuntu and Ubuntu takes about 2 mins just for initial load no gui
[11:04] <Ademan_> but apparently the chipset also SAYS it does when queried by software
[11:05] <drumline_> Ademan_: go with a range around: 2 * (concurrent connections) * (number of clients max)
[11:05] <Ademan_> drumline_: k thanks
[11:05] <drumline_> Ademan_: if there's issue, increase.  :)
[11:05] <Ademan_> by the way
[11:05] <drumline_> Ademan_: depends on how smart your ftp daemon is
[11:05] <Ademan_> wtf is "PAM"
[11:05] <Ademan_> ?
[11:06] <Ademan_> pluggable authentication manager or something
[11:06] <Ademan_> but, what's its relation to vsftpd?
[11:06] <drumline_> auth :)
[11:06] <Ademan_> actually, nvm, i dont even care, i've got my priviledge problem worked out lol
[11:06] <jenda> How does one remove search engines from the firefox search bar?
[11:06] <BIzz> hehehe
[11:06] <drumline_> you'll want to research PAM to get the full scoop.
[11:07] <drumline_> jenda: research the way to add... then you'll be able to remove.
[11:07] <jenda> drumline_: nope..
[11:07] <jenda> drumline_: hmm... but it seems I found something... thanks anyway ;)
[11:08] <bobslaede> ey, i got a amd64 cpu, is it just me, or is the repository not as huge, as with a normal 32 bit cpu - course with the breezy 64bit
[11:08] <cyborg_jt> I have just installed ubuntu server but what is the root passwrd
[11:08] <jenda> drumline_: Got it... the funny thing is that you have to install an extension to be able to remove them... sheesh ;)
[11:08] <bimberi> ubotu tell cyborg_jt about root
[11:09] <bobslaede> when dapper comes out, what is the bennefit of installing the 64bit version, and not the 32bit, when i have to hack around alot with the 64bit
[11:09] <Ademan_> where do manual files generaly go to?
[11:09] <apokryphos> bobslaede: you don't, really, unless you're in desperate need of flash and/or wmv9
[11:10] <apokryphos> and the benefit of installing the 64bit is that..... you're actually using your 64bit processor
[11:10] <BIzz> gah! i cant remember my pass for IRC!
[11:10] <bimberi> Ademan_: /usr/share/man
[11:10] <nzx> hey, my laptop is not powering down when i do reboot, any ideas ?
[11:10] <Ademan_> thanks
[11:11] <bimberi> Ademan_: yw :)
[11:11] <Ademan_> reboot doesnt power down...
[11:11] <bimberi> nzx: reboot? it shouldn't power down then
[11:11] <bobslaede> apokryphos: well, i do like flash, and use it on the web, and in my work and wmv9 too i spose
[11:12] <bobslaede> apokryphos: how about the speed of the computer, how much do i loose by using the 32bit version?
[11:12] <nzx> bimberi, i mean it shuts the machine down, says rebooting, and freezes on that screen
[11:12] <Ademan_> bimberi: i'm supposed to use bash to access the man files somehow huh?
[11:12] <apokryphos> bobslaede: then you can either have a 32bit chroot, 32bit install, or a BiArch supporting distro :P
[11:12] <XiXaQ> where is java sdk installed?
[11:12] <Ng> bobslaede: it's entirely possible to just install a 32bit firefox on a 64bit install
[11:12] <bimberi> nzx: hmmk.  I'm not sure sorry :/
[11:12] <Ademan_> nzx: from my experience you're lucky it works on your laptop at all
[11:12] <bobslaede> Ng: how about speed loss?
[11:13] <apokryphos> bobslaede: no idea of percentages, but if you're only using 32bit libs then there's really not much difference to having had a 32-bit processor
[11:13] <Ng> bobslaede: personally I don't notice any speed difference between the 32bit and 64bit versions of ubuntu, which is hardly surprising on a desktop class machine (since most time is spent waiting for disk/user input)
[11:13] <bimberi> Ademan_: you use the 'man' command (eg. 'man man' )
[11:13] <bobslaede> apokryphos: i think i have the 32bit firefox
[11:13] <nzx> Ademan_, what do you mean ?
[11:13] <apokryphos> bobslaede: suffice it to say I think it's certainly worth it :P
[11:13] <Ademan_> nzx: i mean linux generally doesnt do so hot on laptops without REALLY knowing what you're doing
[11:13] <apokryphos> bobslaede: huh?
[11:13] <Ademan_> like its reccomended to custom compile your kernel and whatnot
[11:13] <apokryphos> bobslaede: not on your amd64 ubuntu, unless it's in chroot
[11:14] <bobslaede> apokryphos: dunno :p but i think maybe most of my libs and apps are 32bit
[11:14] <bobslaede> apokryphos: maybe not then :p
[11:14] <apokryphos> bobslaede: if you had a 32bit install they would be
[11:14] <Ng> bobslaede: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:14] <apokryphos> it's a bit of a shame that Ubuntu/Debian aren't BiArch
[11:14] <bobslaede> apokryphos: i have a 64bit install
[11:14] <Ng> apokryphos: yet :)
[11:14] <apokryphos> since amd64s are prefectly capable of using 32bit libs
[11:14] <bobslaede> Ng: it works allright now, but gonna upgrade to dapper soon, thinking of reinstalling instead of upgrading
[11:15] <nzx> Ademan_, when i installed debian, it worked fine, so i dont understand why ubuntu is not working
[11:15] <nzx> :(
[11:15] <apokryphos> Ng: I don't think it'll be too soon, not even dapper+1
[11:15] <apokryphos> and I think it'd be less likely to happen with apt
[11:15] <tmjb> linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-xeon is this kernel for Intel Xeon Dual Processor  or my questions is does it have smp tnx ?
[11:15] <bobslaede> apokryphos: so a 32bit install would work just as good then? well, i wouldnt feel the different?
[11:15] <apokryphos> but hey, if there's a move to smart then there'd be quite some advantages in that area
[11:15] <cyborg_jt> how do search for the bittorrent package?
[11:16] <apokryphos> bobslaede: obviously not. You wouldn't really be using the fact that it's a *64-bit processor*
[11:16] <Ademan_> nzx: i can't get either to even INSTALL on my linux... and searching for my problem on the net seemed to tell me i wasnt alone, there is a whole ubuntu laptop division though
[11:16] <BIzz> how come when I install programs using Synaptic i get following error after install
[11:16] <BIzz> how come when I install programs using Synaptic i get following error after install E: xubuntu-docs: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[11:16] <BIzz> E: xubuntu-desktop: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:16] <cyborg_jt> I try sudo apt-get install bittorrent but bittorrent-curses still isn't there
[11:16] <jenda> Actually... no. That doesn't work... wtf - there seems to be no way of removing those things. Any idea on removing firefox search engines? (from the search bar?)
[11:16] <bobslaede> apokryphos: but i dont really *need* 64bit on my workstation?
[11:16] <apokryphos> BIzz: you're not on breezy, are you?
[11:17] <BIzz> i think im on dapper
[11:17] <nzx> Ademan_, i'm sorry to hear that, but i've managed to get it installed and working, just having problem with rebootinh, shutting down
[11:17] <Ng> apokryphos: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/multiarch-devel/2006-May/000001.html
[11:17] <apokryphos> bobslaede: it can run a 32bit installation just fine, yes. It just wouldn't get all the advantages of a 64bit install
[11:17] <Ng> there are no real advantages to a 64bit install atm
[11:18] <bobslaede> apokryphos: but theres still disadvantages i spose, when i need everyday stuff like flash, and i had some problems with firefox in the beginning
[11:18] <apokryphos> Ng: that's *a* solution, the other is moving from apt to Smart, as Shuttleworth mentioned.
[11:18] <apokryphos> Ng: yes, there are advantages.
[11:18] <apokryphos> bobslaede: yes, on a pure ubuntu 64bint installation, there's no flash. Ubuntu isn't BiArch
[11:19] <Ng> apokryphos: there really aren't :)
[11:19] <bobslaede> apokryphos: yeah... but what are the advantages then?
[11:19] <apokryphos> wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD64
[11:20] <Ng> bobslaede: iff you do anything computationally intensive it may go faster, or if you have daft amounts of RAM for a desktop machine it'll be able to use it all natively. that's about it
[11:20] <bobslaede> Ng: I leaning towards the 32bit install
[11:21] <Ng> bobslaede: I would say that unless you positively want the 64bit install and don't mind some manual effort to get things like firefox/mplayer/flash/java going on it, yes, a 32bit install is probably a better idea
[11:22] <bobslaede> i just need it to work straight away, it works fine now, with the 64bit install, but when upgrading i dont feel like using too much time on it
[11:26] <cyphase> *sigh*
[11:26] <cyphase> technology*
[11:26] <cyphase> :P
[11:28] <cyphase> hey jenda
[11:28] <cyphase> what's up?
[11:33] <Kunkhmer> G'd day. anyone here have linux driver for Netgear Wireless pc card (WG511 V2)?
[11:34] <Kunkhmer> need help.. anyone here have linux driver for Netgear Wireless pc card (WG511 V2)?
[11:35] <jenda> So... how do I remove search plugins from firefox? doesn't seem to be working...
[11:35] <Ng> Kunkhmer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76804 might be helpful
[11:36] <void^> see http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[11:37] <Kunkhmer> nice.. hopefully it will works for me. thanks
[11:41] <Captain_Redbeard> Hey guys, does anybody have any information and/or experience regarding a speedtouch USB modem? I am just totally clueless on how to get it to work... It seems to be installed and the drivers loaded properly... but now what?
[11:43] <ajayc> hi guys
[11:43] <ajayc> just recieved my 25 ubuntu cd's
[11:43] <ajayc> tried to distribute but no one would take it
[11:43] <Grunt> hi i was wondering if someone could help, the ntfs partions that are auto mounted by root.  Can I change it so that everyone has read only access?
[11:43] <ajayc> :(
[11:44] <Grunt> hi i was wondering if someone could help, the ntfs partions that are auto mounted by root.  Can I change it so that everyone has read only access?
[11:44] <void^> !ntfs
[11:44] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:44] <alsa> how do i play .avi vidz ! what do i need to download
[11:44] <alsa> !restricted formats
[11:44] <ubotu> restricted formats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or '!codecs'
[11:45] <alsa> !codecs
[11:45] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:45] <axisme> hehe why did you buy 25 ubuntu cds?
[11:45] <nzx> hey, how to i get a verbose splash screen ?
[11:45] <Grunt> i don't need to mount, ubuntu automounts it but its only accessible by root
[11:45] <alsa> !easysource
[11:45] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:46] <graveson> what is a good app to create dvd slideshows to play on a set top player
[11:46] <ajayc> no idea about me?
[11:47] <tankpunk> hi i have ubuntu amd64 version installed but i cant get my ati x1600 pro working...i've read guides, reinstalled everything but can't figure it out
[11:47] <tankpunk> any ideas or guides?
[11:47] <Samuli^> Grunt, can you paste your fstab?
[11:49] <coldboot> Is there a way to have two different versions of a package installed at the same time?
[11:50] <dli> coldboot which package?
[11:50] <Grunt> samuli: one mo
[11:50] <tankpunk> does anyone here have the 64bit version of ubuntu working with an ati card?
[11:51] <Grunt> I have changed it now so it looks like this which I found from the ubuntu wiki
[11:51] <Grunt> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[11:51] <Grunt> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[11:51] <Grunt> /dev/hda3       /               ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[11:51] <Grunt> /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=000        0       0
[11:51] <Grunt> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults,user        0       0
[11:51] <Grunt> /dev/hda4       none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:51] <Grunt> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[11:51] <dli> Grunt, don't paste here :(
[11:51] <Grunt> so my bad
[11:51] <osfameron> avahi?
[11:51] <Grunt> sorry my bad
[11:51] <herzi> does anyone here use dnsmasq? (i'd like to use it to supply two different nics with either a 192.168.1.0 or a 192.168.2.0 network)
[11:52] <cyphase> osfameron, a linux implementation of zeroconf
[11:52] <osfameron> cyphase: ta
[11:52] <zawa> can someone help me configure my wireless dongle
[11:52] <cyphase> zawa, what model?
[11:52] <zawa> TRENDNet-TEW424UB
[11:52] <ompaul> Grunt, for future reference use paste.ubuntu-nl.org , thanks  :-)
[11:53] <cyphase> hmm
[11:53] <Grunt> ok thanks
[11:53] <cyphase> Grunt, are you using Dapper?
[11:53] <zawa> I look on the net and it says I need ndiswrapper
[11:53] <Grunt> no badger
[11:53] <cyphase> oh
[11:53] <cyphase> ok
[11:53] <ajayc> where should i distribute the cd's?
[11:53] <zawa> so I installed but everytime i load the driver my machine freez
[11:53] <zawa> aaah
[11:55] <tankpunk> is there a way to stop ubuntu from booting right into xwindows? like forceing it to console right away?
[11:55] <visik7> tankpunk: remove gdm from the services run at startup
[11:55] <Samuli^> tankpunk, take gdm from the services
[11:57] <tankpunk> ok thank you very much. I thought for sure I had my ati drivers working but upon reboot it would just lock on starting X
[11:57] <zawa> anyone knows how to use ndiswrapper?
[11:57] <zawa> stupid windows drivers only provided.  Why in the WORLD of MSWindows!
[11:59] <ompaul> !ndiswrapper
[11:59] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[11:59] <ompaul> zawa, that should help ^^^
[12:00] <Grunt> hey guys i cracked it i wasn't setting the options right in fstab, thanks for the help
[12:01] <Samuli^> grun, np :)
[12:01] <ompaul> Grunt, for future reference, if you want to add a drive you can start with System Administration Disks :-)
[12:01] <tankpunk> Can anyone help me with my video driver problem please? I've been trying for so long and can't figure it out.
[12:01] <Samuli^> ompaul, there's no options at all.
[12:03] <ompaul> Samuli^, what version are you running?
[12:04] <Samuli^> ompaul, dapper.
[12:04] <Samuli^> and newest 'diskds'
[12:04] <ompaul> then you should be in #ubuntu+1
[12:05] <Samuli^> well, if there's no options for diskds in dapper I think it's safe to say there's none for breezy either,
[12:05] <ompaul> no it is not
[12:05] <sadasd> how can i run exe files in ubuntu
[12:06] <Frogzoo> !wine
[12:06] <ompaul> !wine
[12:06] <Frogzoo> !tell sadasd about wine
[12:06] <ompaul> Samuli^, and its on the menu in dapper
[12:07] <sadasd> !wine
[12:07] <ompaul> Samuli^, I booted the dapper lappy to check
[12:07] <Samuli^> ompaul :)
[12:14] <aivalli> hey folks
[12:14] <aivalli> I wanna setup a NFS server on ubuntu
[12:15] <cafuego> !nfs
[12:15] <ubotu> I heard nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:15] <aivalli> oh great ubotu ! :)
[12:15] <aivalli> thanx
[12:18] <ggoogi> is there a way to remove borders on gnome-terminal?
[12:19] <kent> what borders?
[12:20] <froud> anyone know how to use the ls cmd in a way that it will recursively list ./directory/filename format for each file
[12:21] <froud> in other words, with the full path and filename each on one line
[12:21] <kent> froud: like the tree command? (perhaps not installed by default)
[12:22] <froud> i shouo say its from an FTP session prompt
[12:23] <Draconicus> Is there a tool that I can install to check a harddrive's physical integrity and/or stability?
[12:23] <kent> froud: i guess you want more than just ls -R ?
[12:26] <Draconicus> No?
[12:26] <froud> kent: yes
[12:27] <froud> I need to remove all except the directory/path/filename
[12:27] <froud> I need the resulting output as input to another process
[12:28] <froud> kent: all the rwx and owner group filesize etc is just useless info and means I got to start grepping around to find files
[12:31] <C|int> hello everyone, I'll be testing all different kinds of software out, and reporting if they work for , CodeWeavers CrossOver 5.0, sounds and everything, and how it runs, if anyone is interested, please let me know,
[12:31] <C|int> I am going test, see if I can get my Autodesk 3ds Max 7 running, I almost had my maxon,
[12:32] <C|int> anything, in linux I can use to mount iso's I would like to see if I can run rhino3d, from iso
[12:33] <froud> perhaps somebody knows how to do tree -f -i when doing FTP?
[12:34] <froud> or something like it?
[12:34] <instabin1> when is 6 being released?
[12:35] <C|int> either , june 1st, or sometime in june
[12:35] <Badman> yo
[12:35] <C|int> hi instabin1
[12:36] <C|int> btw, the | in my name, is suppose to be an L, however, I couldn't just use Clint, so , if you guys were wondering
[12:37] <MistaED> C|int: try zbrush2 :) i'm curious
[12:37] <C|int> whats that
[12:37] <C|int> cad modeling?
[12:37] <MistaED> another 3d app
[12:37] <C|int> ah
[12:37] <Frogzoo> !iso
[12:37] <C|int> nope
[12:37] <ubotu> methinks iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[12:37] <C|int> I use, maxon, 3d, etc.. and rhino3d,
[12:37] <Frogzoo> C|int: mount -t iso9660 -o loop blah.iso /mnt
[12:38] <C|int> awesome
[12:38] <instabin1> any one know if there is an open source project like blue security had going
[12:38] <C|int> thanks
[12:39] <instabin1> C|int
[12:39] <C|int> yes?\
[12:40] <instabin1> did you here of blue security?
[12:40] <instabin1> and do you know if there is an open source project like it?
[12:40] <C|int> nope
[12:40] <instabin1> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/16/AR2006051601873.html
[12:40] <instabin1> They shut down b/c a spammer did a ddos attack to them
[12:41] <C|int> question, everyone, how could I like, clean up my system, if I wanted to . delete user account, and files in it
[12:41] <C|int> and restart over, could I do that?
[12:41] <instabin1> Dont under stand your question
[12:41] <C|int> Insecta_, , I flashed my cable provider, ex cable, and I have internet , free now
[12:41] <C|int> instabin1,  *
[12:41] <BIzz> heheh
[12:41] <C|int> :)
[12:42] <C|int> I din't think I was capable of great things HEE
[12:42] <instabin1> how did you do that
[12:42] <C|int> well, be without internet for 2 months, you go crazy as an IT
[12:42] <C|int> hardware etc
[12:42] <C|int> and software
[12:42] <C|int> I can only get a 7 kb/s download though, and upload, however, browse the net fast, so, its not really all great, but its something at least
[12:43] <instabin1> my cable is 8mg down 768k up
[12:43] <C|int> nice
[12:44] <dmlhdd> im after installing ubuntu version 5.04 and after i did everything and all the fucking work....its command line....i thought it would be a visual gui
[12:44] <instabin1> download speed are around 1mg/s depending on server
[12:44] <dmlhdd> help
[12:44] <C|int> lol, don' panick
[12:44] <instabin1> dmlhdd all you have is a command line?
[12:44] <C|int> I tried to install vmware, workstation, 5 on dapper, and all the work I did, eh, got nothing,
[12:44] <instabin1> no gui
[12:44] <dmlhdd> its only a command line interface i thought it woudl be a visual thing
[12:45] <instabin1> it is a visual thing
[12:45] <dmlhdd> is it normal with 5.04
[12:45] <C|int> eh, probably graphics
[12:45] <dmlhdd> no graphics at all
[12:45] <instabin1> might be but he didnt say he was getting x errors
[12:45] <C|int> the graphic configuration, for the video card could probably be messed up
[12:46] <dmlhdd> any other posibilities i remember during installation there was a problem with installing other packages
[12:46] <C|int> ah, well I'm messin with codeweavers, really not gettin anywhere, if someone can tell me, best way, to get vmware up and running,  I would be happy ;_0
[12:46] <instabin1> Well that could be your prob ....
[12:46] <dmlhdd> ah this ubuntu is nothign but problems
[12:46] <dmlhdd> lol
[12:47] <dmlhdd> i just want it to install then ill worry about workign with it
[12:47] <instabin1> Setup can be dificult
[12:47] <Manager> hi
[12:47] <instabin1> dmlhdd are you working off a fresh install?
[12:47] <dmlhdd> well its a official CD package
[12:47] <Manager> How much does ubuntu cost?
[12:48] <instabin1> Its free
[12:48] <dmlhdd> free
[12:48] <instabin1> dmlhdd did you have it installed before
[12:48] <Manager> free?
[12:48] <Manager> i mean legally
[12:48] <BIzz> how can i make a link to my home direcroty in Xubuntu?
[12:48] <instabin1> yes just cost  you time to download it
[12:48] <dmlhdd> not fully...before it was giving errors of another package version during base installation
[12:49] <Pimpshizzled> did u rip it to cd dmlhdd????
[12:49] <Manager> instabin1 - I need it legally, for work... how much is the full licensed version (not warez)?
[12:49] <instabin1> Manager it is completly free
[12:49] <dmlhdd> its the full licensed in the official box and everythign
[12:49] <Frogzoo> !ubuntu
[12:49] <ubotu> ubuntu is, like, a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[12:49] <bato> it's completly free
[12:49] <Manager> How can they give it away for free?  What's the catch?
[12:49] <Manager> Is it demoware or spyware?
[12:49] <Pimpshizzled> manager, u seriously need to look into something called 'open source' it means, its open to the public, no cost
[12:49] <instabin1> no demo no spyware
[12:49] <Frogzoo> manage -> ^^
[12:49] <C|int> screw trying to emuate windows,
[12:49] <Pimpshizzled> lol, no, thats what linux certainly ISNT
[12:50] <C|int> all its doing best, is messing up
[12:50] <Manager> why would anyone give it away for free?
[12:50] <C|int> >_<
[12:50] <dmlhdd> it was created by hobbyists
[12:50] <instabin1> cuz people make it in there free time
[12:50] <instabin1> lol
[12:50] <Pimpshizzled> even the office suite with unbuntu is free
[12:50] <C|int> hee
[12:50] <Pimpshizzled> and it kicks the ass of xp office
[12:50] <C|int> or you can get into Star Office
[12:50] <Frogzoo> Manager: it's a full blown operating system & distro (based on Linux)
[12:50] <instabin1> you can prob make a donation if it makes you feal better.
[12:50] <Manager> are they going to put ads on it or charge for upgrades in the future?
[12:50] <C|int> :-)
[12:50] <mwe> Manager: because not everyone make software to make money
[12:50] <C|int> I took my deb file, from my xandros I bought
[12:51] <rambo3> asiking for help in ##windows is like asking retad the square root of milion, answer consist of icecream and shiny colors.
[12:51] <instabin1> manager did you read the web page
[12:51] <C|int> and took star office, and put it on ubuntu hee
[12:51] <Frogzoo> Manager: best read the faq, url is above
[12:51] <C|int> Manager, , what do you want
[12:51] <Manager> who organises the software development?
[12:51] <C|int> a development team
[12:51] <Pimpshizzled> freelance programmers and hobbyists
[12:51] <instabin1> People that donate there time
[12:51] <Manager> how are they coordinated?
[12:51] <C|int> and all people supporting
[12:51] <C|int> like us
[12:51] <Frogzoo> Manager: please read the url already posted for the third time
[12:51] <eric_polegato> how would i go about installing a plugin to view video files on the internet
[12:52] <instabin1> LoL
[12:52] <Pimpshizzled> via the distrobution companies, i.e - unbuntu
[12:52] <dmlhdd> man ...i shoudl just give it up...its giving me problems for installing so obviously some cosmic source doesnt want me to install it
[12:52] <instabin1> ROFLAMO
[12:52] <C|int> Insecta_, ,
[12:52] <C|int> instabin1,  bud
[12:52] <instabin1> yea
[12:52] <C|int> today, I am going get, FreeBSD 6.1 :D
[12:52] <Pimpshizzled> dmlhdd, dude, what speed did u rip your cd at?
[12:52] <Manager> silly question, but is ubuntu made by a branch of microsoft?
[12:52] <C|int> from my college, ;)
[12:52] <Pimpshizzled> err
[12:52] <Pimpshizzled> no way man
[12:52] <C|int> I need a good T line, so I can download hee
[12:52] <Manager> i.e. is microsoft the parent company for ubuntu?
[12:52] <dmlhdd> if it was it wouldnt be free!!!!!!!!!!1
[12:52] <BIzz> no
[12:52] <Pimpshizzled> gah!!!!!!!
[12:53] <C|int> no
[12:53] <rambo3> Manager: yes
[12:53] <Pimpshizzled> LOL
[12:53] <BIzz> evil!
[12:53] <C|int> Manager, , can u manage your way to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:53] <C|int> :)
[12:53] <Manager> i don't understand why microsoft would stand by and watch when people are giving away a competing OS for free?
[12:53] <rambo3> they are masocists
[12:53] <Manager> I suspect ubuntu will get bought out by MS
[12:53] <Frogzoo> Manager: is definately trolling...
[12:53] <C|int> its a free world
[12:53] <instabin1> cus its linux not windows
[12:53] <C|int> not just Microsoft, is god of programming
[12:53] <Pimpshizzled> because they can afford to loose the smarter computer users, which stll happens to be a tiny minority
[12:54] <instabin1> has nothing to do with microsoft
[12:54] <Pimpshizzled> ^^
[12:54] <C|int> I am a microsoft Developer, and work with Vista, and its all a waste of time,
[12:54] <mwe> Manager: it can't be bought. it's already free. they can just take it
[12:54] <mjr> Manager, it can't get bought out as such. Anyway, if you insist on continuing on those lines, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:54] <C|int> they need to integrate support through multiple environments, and empower the world
[12:54] <Manager> also, why duplicate the effort with so many different linux variants?  doesn't it make sense to have one "best practice" version?
[12:54] <mwe> Manager: they can't shut it down though
[12:54] <C|int> however alot choose to be closed minded
[12:54] <Frogzoo> k, I rest my case - Manager is a dead set troll
[12:54] <dmlhdd> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:54] <Pimpshizzled> the great thing about linux is choice manager
[12:54] <Hobbsee> !+offtopic
[12:54] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:54] <Pimpshizzled> people choose what they want
[12:54] <C|int> Pimpshizzled,
[12:55] <dmlhdd> join
[12:55] <C|int> Unix is even more open
[12:55] <Manager> sorry guys
[12:55] <Frogzoo> yay!!
[12:55] <C|int> its just support ec
[12:55] <Manager> can you join me to discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[12:55] <Pimpshizzled> rather than microsoft and their one product which u have to pay to buy the next os when its out-of-date
[12:55] <Pimpshizzled> clint,
[12:55] <C|int> www.freebsd.org :D
[12:55] <C|int> its free :D
[12:55] <C|int> you know,  who runs yahoo :P
[12:55] <instabin1> ?
[12:55] <C|int> FreeBSD :P
[12:56] <instabin1> know who runs my web server
[12:56] <Pimpshizzled> ill stick with ubuntu for the time being, only been using it for 2 days thus far :P
[12:56] <C|int> ran off there servers
[12:56] <C|int> : P
[12:56] <instabin1> FreeBSD I belive
[12:56] <Manager> Google used to be free but now it's full of adword spam and flakey desktop toolbars
[12:56] <C|int> I can't wait, to get it he
[12:56] <instabin1> www.z3wave.com
[12:56] <C|int> I tested with before,
[12:56] <C|int> yes Insecta_
[12:56] <C|int> instabin1,
[12:56] <psyke83> hi, when I run opengl apps there's terrible vsync problems. If I use "vblank_mode=3 app" then it works perfectly, however, I can't get it to work using driconf or /etc/environment, I always have to set the variable each time I run an app. What could be the problem? I'm using the i810 driver
[12:56] <eMBee> good afternoon
[12:56] <C|int> instabin1, , I tried setting up my wireless, I went throgh hell, and still not gettin no where : P
[12:56] <mwe> C|int: free bsd is great for servers. My ISP is running it as well
[12:56] <instabin1> yes C|int
[12:56] <C|int> cool mwe
[12:57] <C|int> are you an admin here?
[12:57] <instabin1> no
[12:57] <C|int> ah
[12:57] <C|int> ^_^
[12:57] <mwe> C|int: I wouldn't use it as a desktop though
[12:57] <C|int> you know, Mac OS X is built off it :P
[12:57] <instabin1> C|int just a hobbist
[12:57] <C|int> so was NOvell, and Sun hee
[12:57] <Manager> i thought they stopped using macs in the 70's
[12:57] <C|int> o.o
[12:57] <instabin1> Love tech demos
[12:57] <dmlhdd> can anyone recommend what i shoud do?? i have 5.04 installed but its onyl a visual interface...ive just downloaded the 5.10 version to install from Cd.....shoud i just run the format on the 5.10 cd and start all over again
[12:57] <C|int> hobbist o.o
[12:58] <visik7> eMBee: there isn't already search
[12:58] <instabin1> C|int hows vista lookin?
[12:58] <dmlhdd> *its onyl command line
[12:58] <C|int> slow :)
[12:58] <rambo3> dmlhdd: you can do dist-upgrade or clean install
[12:58] <C|int> as ever :)
[12:58] <instabin1> know when a public beta will be availible?
[12:58] <Pimpshizzled> dmlhdd, stick with 5.10, and rip it to cd, SLOWLY, not a quick burn
[12:58] <eMBee> visik7: huh?
[12:58] <C|int> interface, has improved, however, its not a system you can just take control over
[12:58] <Pimpshizzled> i had that problem, i burned it too quick
[12:58] <visik7> eMBee: there isn't any deb for breezy for firefox 1.5
[12:58] <dmlhdd> so just install it as normal from the 5.10 CD
[12:59] <visik7> !firefox new
[12:59] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, visik7
[12:59] <Pimpshizzled> i did =)
[12:59] <visik7> !firefoxnew
[12:59] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, visik7
[12:59] <rambo3> !ff1.5
[12:59] <C|int> I got mad at it, and I was hacking the shell, and crashed the system several times, so I through the dvd like a frisbie :-)
[12:59] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:59] <eMBee> visik7: ok, that 'search' confused me
[12:59] <instabin1> C|int know when public beta will be available?
[12:59] <C|int> not sure if they will release it m8
[12:59] <mwe> for some reason ff-1.5.0.3 is crashing a lot on my system
[12:59] <dmlhdd> so just reinstall it again from scratch
[12:59] <C|int> you can sign up though :P
[01:00] <C|int> I wouldn't recommend it :P
[01:00] <instabin1> C|int want to find out how much ram i will ahve to add to my sys to run it
[01:00] <C|int> ubuntu, is much more Vista than Windows will ever be hee
[01:00] <C|int> lol, 512 +
[01:00] <C|int> : P
[01:00] <instabin1> 3700 athlon 64, 1.5g ddr 400, 6800gt 2x80g raid 0
[01:00] <C|int> there trying to get it lowered, however I don' know with the modded out kernel
[01:01] <C|int> your not going use vista are ya, I don't even want to talk about vista
[01:01] <instabin1> lol
[01:01] <Hobbsee>  /mode #ubuntu +q *@tor/session/*
[01:01] <C|int> I just would like to get my wireless working,
[01:01] <instabin1> I run both win and ubuntu
[01:01] <mwe> instabin1: are you afraid that specs is not enough for windows vista? :)
[01:01] <C|int> yeah, I do as well, and unix,
[01:01] <instabin1> yea
[01:01] <instabin1> mwe
[01:01] <C|int> I use Acronis Disk Director Suite, like I have told people
[01:01] <C|int> its nice for my kind of IT field I'm in
[01:02] <C|int> hey instabin1 , this is my college I go to,, ->  www.robertmorris.edu/cs/
[01:02] <mwe> instabin1: if it isn't they can't sell it to most people in the near future
[01:02] <instabin1> C|int think my pc will work for vista? or need upgrade?
[01:02] <C|int> yeah you'll be just find lucky dogg
[01:02] <mwe> instabin1: i will, definately
[01:02] <C|int> fine*
[01:02] <Manager> Some ask the question... but I don't give a damn.
[01:02] <C|int> its aimed at 64 bit,
[01:03] <instabin1> Manager what do you need ?
[01:03] <C|int> however, I bet they are going make it, so it can be backwards compatible, I have only tested 32 bit modes, they already have the 64's out now, but why would yo uwant to even mess with that system is so dam proprietary, the system is more of a hog than it was, before
[01:04] <instabin1> lol
[01:04] <C|int> and plus, if the people here, catch me talkin vista, they are going tell me offtopic, so I Dont need that
[01:04] <instabin1> Cuz i have to for work
[01:04] <C|int> I like feeling welcome here, not being told off by a bunch of cranky people. system is crashin bad kind of day
[01:04] <C|int> :-)
[01:04] <instabin1> ?
[01:05] <instabin1> whats crashing?
[01:05] <C|int> what I meant was
[01:05] <C|int> told off by a bunch of cranky people , system is crashing bad kind of day people :)
[01:05] <dmlhdd> so...ive the 5.10 version of ubuntu here now...can i just install it over the 5.04
[01:05] <C|int> I don't need that negativity
[01:05] <dmlhdd> afetr formatting
[01:05] <C|int> dmlhdd,
[01:05] <C|int> you got any blank cd's?
[01:06] <dmlhdd> ya
[01:06] <Samuli^> dmlhdd, you could just upgrade
[01:06] <C|int> you got installed right?
[01:06] <mwe> dmlhdd: um after formatting the old system will be gone, so yes
[01:06] <rambo3> !tell dmlhdd avout dist-upgrade
[01:06] <C|int> just try doing a,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:06] <instabin1> eww cds i just burn the dvd from torrent
[01:06] <dmlhdd> well the 5.04 is just command line which is useless
[01:06] <dmlhdd> and i want 5.10
[01:06] <C|int> what do you have for a command line
[01:06] <mwe> dmlhdd: you don't need to erase the old version thouhg. just update via sources.list
[01:06] <dmlhdd> just lgin: barry
[01:06] <dmlhdd> then
[01:06] <dmlhdd> >>
[01:06] <dmlhdd> help?
[01:06] <C|int> dmlhdd, , I have had an awesome experience with dapper
[01:07] <instabin1> try startx
[01:07] <dmlhdd> startx?
[01:07] <instabin1> yes
[01:07] <C|int> to me, its not really buggy at all
[01:07] <mwe> C|int: when did you start using dapper?
[01:07] <C|int> but thats just me
[01:07] <C|int> um.. 4, then 6, then 7
[01:07] <sneex> is there a network/kernel tuning write up about Ubuntu -- or will Debian tuning steps also apply?
[01:07] <C|int> I started using ubuntu, when it was warty, I still am no pro, but I"m no newb to linux or systems
[01:08] <mwe> C|int: printing to windows printers via smbspool was not fixed until a few days ago
[01:08] <C|int> I have so many books on linux and unix, its not even funny, and books I got myself
[01:08] <C|int> I don't give a rats about printin
[01:08] <C|int> I dont' even print, on my systems,
[01:08] <mwe> C|int: good for you
[01:08] <Samuli^> dmlhdd, in your case it might be better to do fresh install.
[01:08] <dmlhdd> ive a .rar of the 5.10
[01:08] <C|int> and I usually take, sysv-rc-conf
[01:08] <dmlhdd> what shoudl i do
[01:08] <C|int> and elimate so many services
[01:08] <dmlhdd> burn all to CD
[01:08] <jerware> fellaz
[01:08] <C|int> 1 of my favorite tools :-)
[01:08] <Samuli^> but anyways, you could try 'startx' at the command line
[01:08] <jerware> are there any PCMCIA nic cards for a laptop that is linux compatable?
[01:09] <jerware> i hear linksys is not open source, there for to stray away from linksys
[01:09] <C|int> for editin the runlevels and services :-)
[01:09] <Samuli^> or /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:09] <C|int> now if I can just get help with my wireless hee
[01:09] <jerware> mine short circuited in the rain
[01:09] <C|int> I would be so dam straight, I would look like a Marine statue :P
[01:09] <Pimpshizzled> dmlhdd, write 5.10 to a fresh cd, burn it slow, not too fast or it may cause complications on your install, once its been wirtten, have your other computer boot it up, and reformat your old installation and go again
[01:09] <jerware> and my centrino randomly disconnects here and there.
[01:09] <mwe> C|int: I made the mistake of upgrading to dapper to early because I didn't realize the final release was posponed till june
[01:09] <jerware> even when im right next to my access point.
[01:09] <C|int> but i'm :( and fustrated with all the work I been doing, so I guess I better just hope I get an Orinoco for my 24th b-day :)
[01:10] <C|int> yeah hee,
[01:10] <C|int> what a birthday present
[01:10] <C|int> :P
[01:10] <C|int> I swear .. mines, June 25th
[01:10] <Samuli^> dmlhdd, is your ubuntu on other computer?
[01:10] <C|int> sorry for enter
[01:10] <Pimpshizzled> dmlhdd, a correct installation of 5.10 WILL include your gui
[01:10] <dmlhdd> no i just ahve the one laptop
[01:10] <dmlhdd> with the ubuntu on it
[01:10] <dmlhdd> ill use the format on the 5.10 cd
[01:11] <dmlhdd> its a .rar aswell should i just burn it as a .rar .iso to my cd
[01:11] <C|int> I just wish, ubuntu would support acer for wireless, :(
[01:11] <C|int> :*(
[01:11] <Pimpshizzled> if u downloaded it from the site, it should be iso
[01:12] <dmlhdd> it is but its as if its a .iso
[01:12] <dmlhdd> with the icon and and structure
[01:13] <Pimpshizzled> just write it :P no faster than 12x i would say
[01:13] <dmlhdd> cool
[01:13] <Samuli^> I'd install dapper ;)
[01:13] <C|int> I can't believe, how I can play my snes games :)
[01:13] <flo-ferox> hi
[01:13] <Pimpshizzled> im personally waiting until the official release
[01:13] <Samuli^> though I have a desktop and I have no idea how it works with laptops.
[01:14] <Samuli^> Pimpshizzled, dapper is a lot more stable than breezy was for me.
[01:14] <flo-ferox> How can I update my Security Settings ?
[01:14] <Samuli^> more 'just working'
[01:15] <Samuli^> C|int, can't believe you can't or can't believe you can? :)
[01:15] <C|int> snes, on ubuntu so dam cool hee
[01:15] <C|int> well, I would like to slap the crap out of codeweavers,
[01:15] <Pimpshizzled> Samuli^, ive heard this a lot, but i gotta say, ive only come over from windows xp very recently :P i will be getting dapper though, shortly
[01:15] <flo-ferox> How can I update my Security Settings ?
[01:15] <C|int> for not running my rhino3d, and maxon,
[01:15] <Pimpshizzled> no problem with breezy atm
[01:15] <Samuli^> C|int, I play snes games with my xbox :)
[01:16] <C|int> that didn't make sense what you said Samuli^  :)
[01:16] <Samuli^> C|int, sure it did-
[01:16] <C|int> good for ya, I got a book on intsalling debian to xbox :-)
[01:16] <C|int> I copy playstation 2 games and xbox games for people, etc,
[01:16] <Pimpshizzled> snes emulator on xbox :P?
[01:16] <Samuli^> C|int, you can install xubuntu on xbox I think
[01:17] <C|int> let me know, when you can help a user, on Acer Aspire laptops wireless, I been having a heck time, gettin all this configure,d, and did everything by the dang forums and all,
[01:17] <Samuli^> Pimpshizzled, and playstation one emulator.. 386-emulator etc. :)
[01:17] <izut_> it's all an x matter :)
[01:17] <eMBee> ahh, found something apt-gettable here: deb http://www.johnleach.co.uk/downloads/ubuntu breezy backports
[01:17] <ep> any idea if there is a working version of opensync in dapper?
[01:18] <Pimpshizzled> samuli^, any ideas if i can get a M.A.M.E emu for nix?
[01:18] <dmlhdd> also just another thing i wanna discuss...what settings shoudl i use........like mount and file system and crap....ive 2 drives one is 35.5gb and the other is 4.5gb for ubuntu
[01:18] <Pimpshizzled> thats my favorite =D
[01:18] <flo-ferox> How can I update my Security Settings ? Please help me ....
[01:18] <C|int> dang it, I think I know why, the ndiswrapper for my hardware didn't work
[01:18] <dmlhdd> i just wanna mount it to the 4.5 and the leave the other alone for my windows
[01:18] <C|int> dang it!!!! >_<
[01:19] <C|int> I used information for ubuntu, and a whole dang diff kernel ! >_<
[01:19] <C|int> I used dapper, and it was information on breezy ! >_<
[01:19] <Samuli^> Pimpshizzled, no idea
[01:19] <C|int> and I Did that with VMware workstation too! >_<
[01:19] <dmlhdd> is there any good book or manual that goes through the whole process in detail
[01:20] <dmlhdd> basicall speaking ubuntu for dummiews
[01:20] <dmlhdd> lol
[01:20] <Pimpshizzled> the installtion of unbuntu is like ubuntu for dummies
[01:20] <Pimpshizzled> darn i cant spell
[01:20] <C|int> nah Pimpshizzled
[01:20] <C|int> PC BSD is FreeBSD for dummies :P
[01:20] <C|int> 10 minutes on my Acer Aspire 3610 :-)
[01:21] <vompatti> Hey C|int
[01:21] <C|int> however, I'm waiting on, to get, FreeBSD 6.1 today :P
[01:21] <Pimpshizzled> u bone BSD dude, big time :P lo
[01:21] <Pimpshizzled> lol*
[01:21] <C|int> huh? o.o
[01:21] <C|int> hey vompatti
[01:21] <vompatti> mm
[01:21] <vompatti> Im havin a bit of proplem here :D
[01:21] <C|int> well, I think I know why stuff really hasn't been working on my system,
[01:21] <vompatti> I have that "cedega_timedemo_installer.sh" but i dont know what to do with it :b
[01:21] <C|int> because its dapper, and not officially sealed :P
[01:22] <vompatti> I've did that sh <file> thing
[01:22] <C|int> but what is ever sealed on open source :P
[01:22] <vompatti> But where did it go ? :s
[01:22] <C|int> eh
[01:22] <eMBee> nice, this firefox1.5 backport seems to work
[01:22] <C|int> try typing,
[01:22] <C|int> cedega
[01:22] <vompatti> Nothing happened :s
[01:23] <Manager> I enjoy the Circus that is Ubuntu
[01:24] <waylandbill> PC-BSD uses packages? Wonder how far behind the ports that is...
[01:24] <Manager> a/s/l waylandbill?
[01:25] <nzx> hey, is it not pissible to make a .deb out of suns sdk + net beans ide ?
[01:25] <waylandbill> too old/not enough/here :-)
[01:25] <C|int> waylandbill, , pbi
[01:26] <waylandbill> pbi?
[01:26] <C|int> however, I am going , test, with , FreeBSD 6.1 today, after I get some rest, and head off to college
[01:26] <dmlhdd> i burned the iso and its not even starting
[01:26] <dmlhdd> it just skips to the loading of 5.04
[01:26] <C|int> KDE really doesn't like to behave on my system, only gnome does
[01:26] <vompatti> How to install that i can use special letters, im mean finnish letters :b
[01:27] <dmlhdd> what could be wrong
[01:27] <vompatti> :p
[01:28] <Manager> what's the "best" female name you can think of?
[01:28] <dmlhdd> i burned th eiso and it wont ven start on run
[01:28] <dmlhdd> iso*
[01:30] <marcie> Question regarding a program...i used to use a text editor for HTML (with a few tabs for what i didn't remember) what would be closest in ubuntu?
[01:30] <Manager> marcie - what's the "best" female name you can think of?
[01:30] <marcie> why would one be better than another?
[01:31] <Manager> pls just anwer the question
[01:31] <marcie> anne
[01:32] <waylandbill> nicole.
[01:32] <waylandbill> marcie, there's many different text editors.
[01:32] <Manager> those are sexy names
[01:32] <Manager> what do you think of melissa?
[01:32] <C|int> 1 sec vompatti
[01:32] <tibs> hi
[01:32] <marcie> i used to use NoteTab lite and really liked it, but it's not available in Linux
[01:33] <tibs> please i v a pb with iptables module
[01:33] <C|int> Manager, , whose a circus
[01:33] <waylandbill> marcie, there's ones that are pretty close to notetab as far as features go though
[01:33] <C|int> the Penguin thanks u :)
[01:33] <ribbo> hi, which kernel should I install to detect and use 4GiB of RAM, I have tied the -686-smp kernel
[01:33] <marcie> that would be really nice
[01:33] <psyke83> hi, can someone tell me: if you put a variable in /etc/environment, shouldn't it take effect in your session? Let's say I set LIBGL_DEBUG="verbose", and when I log in and run glxgears, I see no debug output, but "LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxgears" does - what's wrong?
[01:33] <marcie> i've been really happy with it
[01:34] <tibs> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-18-386/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko': No such file or directory
[01:34] <marcie> is it on the applications list? or from the synaptic manager?
[01:34] <C|int> vompatti, ,
[01:34] <tibs> please can i have a suport?
[01:35] <C|int> i'm installing it , from... source it looks like,
[01:35] <waylandbill> marcie, heck.. even gedit the stock gnome editor does highlighting and such
[01:35] <C|int> and I got alot of winex stuff, and alot of transgaming stuff :P
[01:35] <C|int> and c too. used to that anyways
[01:35] <C|int> be back
[01:35] <waylandbill> marcie, it does tabs too.
[01:35] <cens0red> hi.
[01:35] <marcie> ok...sounds like i didn't configure or fiddle with it enough
[01:36] <marcie> thanks
[01:36] <cens0red> I've got openoffice installed, but the spell checker isn't doing anything. Any idea how I get it to work?
[01:36] <waylandbill> n/p
[01:36] <tibs> any one can help with my iptables?
[01:37] <dmlhdd> im after writing the ISO at 52x
[01:37] <dmlhdd> might it still work
[01:37] <dmlhdd> ive no cd's left
[01:38] <dmlhdd> ??
[01:39] <dmlhdd> will a boot cd still work all the way through properly if i wrote it to a cd at 52x
[01:39] <dmlhdd> iso image
[01:40] <tibs> hey u.....help please!!!
[01:42] <waylandbill> dmlhdd, if there's no question of your system's ability to burn at that speed and the drive that will be used to boot that cd supports that medium there shouldn't be a problem.
[01:43] <Rhine> How do i enable the mounting of /dev/hda5/ on start up?
[01:44] <sneex> tibs -- you have firestarter installed ?
[01:44] <tibs> sneex -- no
[01:45] <sneex> how much experince you have with iptables?
[01:45] <pvd2006> how do you see which version of java you are running?
[01:45] <vompatti> 
[01:45] <vompatti> mm
[01:45] <tibs> sneex 0
[01:45] <C|int> well everyone, looks like I"m going to work with breezy badger, and see, if , I can get my wireless, and vmware working with that ,2
[01:45] <C|int> 1
[01:45] <tarzeau> pvd2006: check http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[01:45] <C|int> even though, I really like dapper, eh, guss I got to wait on things,
[01:45] <C|int> :(
[01:45] <sneex> install firestarter tibs -- you will like it.
[01:45] <C|int> dam , maybe for kicks, I should make it have the ReiserFS :P
[01:45] <Hobbsee> C|int: what was the problem with wireless, sorry?
[01:46] <C|int> oh took ya that long?
[01:46] <C|int> o.O :P
[01:46] <pvd2006> hmm I guess java isnt installed
[01:46] <tibs> sneex -- i would but im obliged to work with iptables
[01:46] <pvd2006> weird
[01:46] <NET||abuse> i want to use mysql client for mysql 5, if i use alien to convert one of the generic rpms, is there anything i'll have to take into account?
[01:46] <C|int> eh,, I did everything I read. on how to do it, still didn't work with a crap
[01:46] <tibs> it was working
[01:46] <arcade> How do I install the kernel sources? :D
[01:46] <C|int> ndiswrapper and all,
[01:46] <Alimah> Hello, which one is better in your opinion, KDE or GNOME?
[01:46] <Hobbsee> C|int: i vaguely remember something about it earlier...but then again, i dotn run gnome
[01:46] <C|int> installed, acer_acpi and all
[01:46] <tarzeau> Alimah: i don't like either
[01:46] <Hobbsee> Alimah: dont start flamewars.  i prefer kde, most people in here prefer gnome
[01:47] <Hobbsee> C|int: why didnt the ndiswrapper work?
[01:47] <dmlhdd> what shoudl i choose for ht enew partition im making....LOGICAL OR PRIMARY
[01:47] <C|int> muahahah, haha
[01:47] <tibs> sneex -- my pb is with the ip_tables module...the system could not find it :(
[01:47] <C|int> I got cedega 5.0 up and running :P
[01:48] <Hobbsee> yay!
[01:48] <dmlhdd> primary or logical for ubuntu
[01:48] <C|int> haha
[01:48] <C|int> :D
[01:48] <dmlhdd> its on a 5 gb partition
[01:48] <C|int> now why wouldn't vmware work that easy
[01:48] <C|int> >_<
[01:48] <sneex> the kernel is saying it cant find the iptables stuff? tibs?
[01:48] <C|int> how ya been Hobbsee  :)
[01:48] <Hobbsee> C|int: got no idea, i havent tried vmware
[01:48] <dmlhdd> windows will be the main runned app
[01:48] <waylandbill> Alimah, the answer to that question is always the one that better suits your needs.
[01:48] <kuja> Is it possible to install an older glibc from the repository instead of the latest?
[01:48] <Hobbsee> C|int: i've been bugsquishing, and patching :)
[01:48] <C|int> aren't you an admin her or something?
[01:49] <C|int> here*
[01:49] <Alimah> well, I don't know which one I should get KUbuntu or Ubuntu?
[01:49] <Hobbsee> C|int: see your PM
[01:49] <Hobbsee> Alimah: get both?
[01:49] <waylandbill> Alimah, you can always get the LiveCD of both and decide by using them.
[01:50] <vompatti> mm
[01:50] <Rhine> How do i remove multiple Ubuntu entries from GRUB?
[01:50] <vompatti> C|int do you have apache2 ?
[01:50] <ribbo> can anyone suggest which kernel should I install to detect and use 4GiB of RAM, I have tied the -686-smp kernel.
[01:51] <waylandbill> Rhine, there's a entry for editting the boot configuration in the system menu I beleive
[01:51] <C|int> vompatti, ,
[01:51] <C|int> boy do I got news for ya
[01:51] <vompatti> What :o
[01:51] <C|int> dam, I don' tknow if I should wait for ubuntu next release to come out or what.. :-)
[01:51] <graveson> can someone help me redefine my keyboard shorcuts
[01:52] <C|int> Welcome to the Cedega Setup Wizard
[01:52] <C|int> Page 1 of 5
[01:52] <C|int> : P
[01:53] <C|int> lol no wonder,
[01:53] <C|int> Debian testing/unstable
[01:53] <C|int> Cedega already picked that up LOL
[01:53] <C|int> no wonder my wireless ain't workin with a darn
[01:53] <NET||abuse> ok, i've just tried something very simple
[01:53] <C|int> : P
[01:53] <C|int> dam Cedega like a tool :P
[01:53] <arcade> I'm trying to get my pwc900nc webcam to work.  I'm looking at http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/INSTALL.en .. but I'm having trouble getting it to compile
[01:54] <arcade> Anyone here that can help me?  Or do I need to actually patch the kernel?  If I need to patch the kernel, how goes things with the linux-restricted modules?
[01:54] <C|int> oops, I do'nt have OPenGL direct rendering :P
[01:54] <NET||abuse> I setup the rpm's from mysql downloads for compat lib and client.. now i alien -d on both, and dpkg -i on both.. had to remove the older libmysqlclient12 and 14 though
[01:54] <NET||abuse> so i've gotten a working client from it.
[01:54] <C|int> got everything else though :)
[01:54] <NET||abuse> am i riskin failures doing this?
[01:54] <C|int> hey vompatti
[01:55] <Alimah> Do Dell computers with the "Designed for Windows" sticker suffer badly under Linux?
[01:55] <C|int> qwossamatti :P
[01:55] <C|int> Congratulations you have succesfully completed the Cedega setup wizard.
[01:56] <C|int> dam
[01:56] <C|int> this chit looks cool ;)
[01:56] <C|int> hey, I need a game :P
[01:56] <C|int> lmao, I got cedega 5.0 installed
[01:57] <Ribs> Alimah: my laptop works okay
[01:57] <Ribs> except for the wireless network
[01:57] <C|int> oh vompy :P
[01:57] <C|int> ribs same here
[01:57] <C|int> Hobbsee,
[01:58] <jvai> gm peeps
[01:58] <Hobbsee> C|int: hmmm?  i'm an IRC op in multiple channels, and a kubuntu dev....i dont know about an admin per se though...
[01:58] <C|int> I got cedega up and running hee
[01:59] <C|int> :P
[01:59] <C|int> I swear :P
[01:59] <pvd2006> Does the media loader on www.youtube.com load for you guys?
[01:59] <C|int> now all I Need, is  a game :)
[01:59] <instabin1> ?
[02:00] <Hobbsee> yay
[02:00] <instabin1> C|lint what do you need a game for
[02:00] <C|int> hee
[02:00] <C|int> www.transgaming.com
[02:00] <C|int> bwa :P
[02:00] <C|int> got it :P
[02:00] <C|int> maybe its, um... al the stuff I instaleld, or, maybe its dapper,
[02:00] <C|int> because I can't recall, if I had it working on breezy o.o
[02:00] <vompatti> mm
[02:00] <C|int> yep :D
[02:00] <C|int> ain't no mm
[02:00] <C|int> :D
[02:00] <C|int>  got da biatch
[02:00] <instabin1> I have that
[02:01] <C|int> now help me with ma wireless :D
[02:01] <jvai> pvd, yup, it loaded for me, watching the sept 11 @ penagon thing, & i'm on hoary
[02:01] <instabin1> EWWW i hate wireless
[02:01] <arcade> Can anyone in here help me with building my own kernel? :)
[02:01] <vompatti> I need help with apache :<
[02:01] <pvd2006> jvai: it didnt work for me:-\, it loaded for a second then disappeared
[02:01] <vompatti> I need to know where it has it's config files :s
[02:01] <jvai> whaat,
[02:01] <arcade> I need a kernel patch, and I would like everything to work after rebuilding, especially the 'restricted-modules' thing which I have no clue on how to get to work if I build my own.
[02:01] <pvd2006> do you happen to have mplayer plugin?
[02:02] <jvai> the frames r kinda slow pvd
[02:02] <pvd2006> I do and it might be conflicting with it
[02:02] <C|int> instabin1, , I need wireles, for college especially
[02:02] <C|int> :(
[02:02] <pvd2006> I just java and flash installed so it should work
[02:02] <C|int> oh vompy, look what i generated for u :)
[02:02] <C|int> cedega_5.0-2_i386.deb
[02:02] <jvai> i'm @ starbucks, now, maybe it's the wireless
[02:02] <C|int> :-)
[02:02] <C|int> jvai, , don't tell me that :D
[02:02] <C|int> :(
[02:02] <jvai> lol
[02:02] <C|int> lucky u :(
[02:03] <C|int> its probably dam dapper, I was following a guide for my Acer Aspire 3610, and uh, it was meant for breezy, probably quite diff from dap :(
[02:03] <C|int> and also, would of had vmware working, if I would of had it on breezy :(
[02:04] <jvai> i'm on a thinkpad t40, w/ hoary, EVERYTHING'S NICE,  & got all of the dvd/wmv playback that's to easy ubuntu
[02:04] <C|int> lol
[02:04] <instabin1> i used some auto script setup after the install
[02:04] <instabin1> i forget what it was called
[02:04] <instabin1> installed dvd flash and other stuff
[02:04] <C|int> sounds like the tightened up ubuntu, because I can rememberI could watch mpeg on warty
[02:04] <C|int> o.o
[02:04] <C|int> automatix?
[02:04] <instabin1> yep that wa sit
[02:05] <C|int> eh, thats what i need to use
[02:05] <C|int> eh
[02:05] <instabin1> worked great
[02:05] <C|int> heh
[02:05] <C|int> yeah, I seen something on that
[02:05] <C|int> o.o
[02:05] <instabin1> auto downlaoed the packages and dependencys
[02:05] <C|int> well, all I'm going rest, and erase, system, and redo.
[02:05] <C|int> hee
[02:05] <instabin1> Sound like fun
[02:05] <C|int> yep it do :D
[02:06] <C|int> well vompatti  since you can't catch, I don't know what ot tell ya .. o.o
[02:09] <C|int> vompatti, , you have a few minutes, for me to send that to ya, like on gaim , or something
[02:09] <F0LL0W3R> heey is there any programn in ubuntu dapper drake like taskmanager in windows ?
[02:09] <tibs> hi iptables was working fine....but now a v a problem :FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-18-386/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko': No such file or directory
[02:10] <tibs> help!!!!
[02:11] <someoneuseless> tibs
[02:11] <C|int> k.. well see you all,
[02:11] <someoneuseless> why do you use that kernel?
[02:11] <C|int> bye bye :-)
[02:11] <someoneuseless> byez
[02:12] <pvd2006> I notced that installing flash through easy ubuntu doesnt work for me
[02:12] <dmlhdd> hey...how could ubuntu pick up a wireless network with a wireles car dbuilt in to the LAPTOP
[02:12] <Badman> hi
[02:12] <dmlhdd> or can it
[02:12] <Badman> i have a problem here
[02:12] <psyke83> can someone do me a favour and paste the output of this please: cat /etc/environment | grep -i gdm
[02:12] <Badman> when starting x
[02:12] <C|int> bye somegeek , see ya  instabin1 , Hobbsee , vompatti
[02:12] <C|int> someoneuseless, *
[02:12] <Badman> i have fatal IO error 104
[02:12] <Hobbsee> bye
[02:12] <someoneuseless> wut?
[02:12] <C|int> have a good day all,
[02:12] <Badman> now i m on irssi
[02:13] <Badman> can u help me?
[02:13] <C|int> i going get some sleep, then work on breezy when I get up, see if I can solve my wireless issue, or just turn laptop off, until ubuntu next release come out :-)
[02:13] <vitry> can alsa run on remote mode?
[02:13] <dmlhdd> thanks clint for your help
[02:13] <someoneuseless> from jack?
[02:13] <Badman> i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:13] <Badman> it seems that everything is OK
[02:13] <C|int> i helped ya?
[02:14] <Badman> but when i do startx the X doesnt work
[02:14] <tibs> someoneuseless: it was installed auto...i v upgrade to 2.6.16.14 but iv no iptables module in :(
[02:14] <pvd2006> !flash
[02:14] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:14] <pvd2006> whoops
[02:14] <Badman> now i m blocked on the terminal
[02:15] <someoneuseless> tibs: i think newest kernel is 2.6.15.22
[02:16] <someoneuseless> BADMAN : error 104 is windows code isnt it?
[02:16] <terrible1abbage> Yep.
[02:16] <tibs> someoneuseless: ill compile that one and see...thx
[02:16] <CuriousCat> hello!
[02:16] <CuriousCat> how do i release and renew ipconfig in ubuntu? I forgot
[02:16] <someoneuseless> xD
[02:17] <Badman> i m on ubuntu someoneuseless
[02:17] <someoneuseless> sure you are
[02:17] <someoneuseless> you tried to install video driver?
[02:17] <someoneuseless> and now gdm wonmt start?
[02:17] <Badman> i did an apt-get upgrade
[02:17] <Badman> with debian repository
[02:18] <someoneuseless> and your old video driver was ubuntu or from card manufacturer?
[02:18] <CuriousCat> what's the command again to release and renew the ip?
[02:18] <Badman> ubuntu someoneuseless
[02:18] <Manager> CuriousCat - it is "*cumbum -d"
[02:18] <someoneuseless> hmm
[02:18] <someoneuseless> dunno sorry
[02:18] <Badman> i have SiS
[02:18] <Badman> ok
[02:19] <Manager> Badman - what is her age/location?
[02:19] <CuriousCat> Manager, uh... that's the command?
[02:19] <Badman> dunno Manager
[02:19] <Manager> CuriousCat - yes, just mind the cum drippin outta the bum.
[02:19] <nzx> does anyone here use pan ?
[02:19] <arcade> CuriousCat: you restart dhcp.
[02:19] <Manager> nzx - yes, you just put it on the stove and heat it up.
[02:19] <CuriousCat> arcade, how?
[02:19] <megaman123> hi all...need help with starting up my system to console instead of GNOME..is that possible (i dont want to load gnome by default)?
[02:19] <nzx> Manager, hehe, very funny
[02:19] <arcade> CuriousCat: /etc/init.d/networking restart .. is my guess. ;)
[02:19] <CuriousCat> Manager, jeez... CoC
[02:19] <Manager> megaman123 - it probably is possible.
[02:20] <thatfunkymunki> it definetly is i'm thinking change your default runlevel
[02:20] <megaman123> Manager: i think it should be but how :)
[02:20] <thatfunkymunki> and change that runlevel to not start gdm
[02:20] <thatfunkymunki> ^megaman123
[02:20] <Manager> megaman123 - don't know! :)
[02:21] <megaman123> thatfunkymunki: im a bit new here, where can i find runlevel?
[02:21] <thatfunkymunki> yeah i'm looking for it too lol
[02:21] <vineeth> megman123:/etc/inittab
[02:21] <megaman123> thatfunkymunki: what i want to do is to load the system into VDR directly without anything else
[02:21] <thatfunkymunki> hmmmm
[02:22] <vineeth> megaman:what is VDR ?
[02:22] <megaman123> thatfunkymunki: im building (trying to) a HTPC
[02:23] <thatfunkymunki> yeah i figured megaman123
[02:23] <megaman123> vineeth: its a video disk recorder (for satellite and stuff)
[02:23] <vineeth> megaman:thanx
[02:23] <dmlhdd> can anyone recommend any good help guides or anythign just to get use to ubuntu for beginners
[02:23] <megaman123> thatfunkymunki: i got the setup i want for VDR done (one week old linux user;)) and now i want to move the machine to my tv :)
[02:23] <dmlhdd> and for c++ programmer
[02:24] <Manager> linux galore, every where i look i see linux!  linux linux linux and more linux!!  i'm living in a sea of linux!
[02:24] <dmlhdd> i want to get wireless and networking goign and all sorts
[02:24] <thatfunkymunki> megaman123 i'm looking online right now
[02:24] <dmlhdd> of drivers needed
[02:24] <megaman123> thatfunkymunki: thanks alot :)
[02:24] <thatfunkymunki> are you going to use GDM at all?
[02:24] <thatfunkymunki> or are you just wanting it to not start at boot
[02:25] <megaman123> thatfunkymunki: no...if i dont need to
[02:25] <megaman123> thatfunkymunki: but i think i want to keep it
[02:25] <thatfunkymunki> then i'd just suggest sudo apt-get remove'ing gdm, xdm
[02:25] <vineeth> megaman:what not just change the name of the startup script ?
[02:25] <megaman123> thatfunkymunki: its handy sometimes (im nat an expert in linux commands )
[02:25] <thatfunkymunki> hmmm
[02:26] <eMBee> good bye
[02:26] <Manager> linux galore, every where i look i see linux!  linux linux linux and more linux!!  i'm living in a sea of linux!
[02:26] <megaman123> vineeth: i really dont know much about how things work in linux..thats why i was asking for advice on how to proceed with this
[02:26] <thatfunkymunki> shit i gotta go to school but look in /etc/init.d/rc
[02:26] <thatfunkymunki> and change that around
[02:26] <LinuxJones> Manager: what's wrong with that ?
[02:26] <thatfunkymunki> and /etc/inittab
[02:26] <thatfunkymunki> sorry
[02:26] <thatfunkymunki> peace out
[02:27] <vineeth> megaman:if u just don't want to start gdm
[02:27] <megaman123> thatfunkymunki: np...thanks
[02:27] <Manager> LinuxJones, that is SUCH a groovy nick!!!  i like it, like it a lot!!
[02:27] <LinuxJones> ;)
[02:27] <Manager> linux has made me go NUTS!!!
[02:27] <vineeth> u can just change the script name in /etc/rcx.d
[02:27] <megaman123> vineeth: ok...and thats it ?
[02:27] <LinuxJones> Manager: your just getting started with Linux I take it ?
[02:28] <vladuz976> any dvorak users here? what text editors do you use?
[02:28] <vineeth> megaman:x is the number of the run level
[02:28] <Manager> LinuxJones I spend so much time on the computer i'm going crazy!!! somebody help me!
[02:28] <dmlhdd> oh sweet jesus
[02:28] <dmlhdd> i actually got ubuntu installed
[02:28] <dmlhdd> its legend man
[02:28] <tellitrack> salut
[02:28] <tellitrack> ya tit qqun ?
[02:28] <tellitrack> til
[02:29] <dmlhdd> anyoen know of how to get going with wireless connection
[02:29] <pm_> how can use my ubuntu as root? i want to log in normally.
[02:29] <megaman123> vineeth: ok, will try it when i get home...thanks alot
[02:29] <LinuxJones> dmlhdd: >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:29] <hukkka> dmlhdd: it depends a bit on your card
[02:30] <vineeth> megaman:thanx man, tell me abt what ur doin if u got time
[02:30] <soundray> dmlhdd: check if you have an interface like wlan0 or ra0. Configure it with System-Preferences-Networking
[02:30] <megaman123> vineeth: sure thing :)
[02:30] <pm_> how can i log into the gdm as root?
[02:31] <LinuxJones> pm_: you want to login as root ?
[02:31] <linux_galore> Manager: just updated your cars firmware to Linux 2.6.16
[02:31] <linux_galore> :-P
[02:31] <gnomefreak> pm_: you really dont want to :(
[02:31] <Manager> lol linux_galore :)))))))))))))))
[02:31] <pm_> LinuxJones: yes
[02:31] <Manager>  Attention everybody.  Did you know that "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are".
[02:31] <vineeth> pm_:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86172
[02:31] <LinuxJones> pm_: don't login to any Linux machine as root, it's bad news
[02:32] <gnomefreak> Manager: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:32] <linux_galore> Manager: should live my life, all the computers run Linux, the embedded products run Linux and my iPOD runs Linux
[02:32] <pm_> LinuxJones: is not to this machine, is a non connected machine, how can i log in as root on it?
[02:33] <vompatti> Okay, im back to whine more :)
[02:34] <nzx> arrg! no nzbget package for ubuntu
[02:35] <rosen> I get some errors when trying to sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Simple'
[02:35] <Manager> Hey evry1; howz it goin?
[02:35] <vompatti> .
[02:36] <vompatti> ,,
[02:36] <vompatti> mm
[02:36] <megaman123> i have one more thing to ask: how can i setup a program to run on startup...like from a script?
[02:36] <rosen> Failed 2/11 test scripts, 81.82% okay. 3/454 subtests failed, 99.34% okay.
[02:36] <rosen> make: *** [test_dynamic]  Fejl 255
[02:36] <rosen>   /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK
[02:36] <rosen> Running make install
[02:36] <rosen>   make test had returned bad status, won't install without force
[02:36] <rosen> anyone have any idea what to do about it ?
[02:36] <vineeth> megaman:well u can make a link to it from any of the rc directories
[02:37] <vineeth> megaman: i mean the rcx.d directory, which corres to ur run level
[02:37] <rubso> hey guys, how to change splash screen ? :)
[02:38] <Zoroaster> how does one create new users from the command line?
[02:38] <megaman123> vineeth: ok..this is what i want to do..to run vdr i have to write like 5 lines in the console, so i want this to run when system boots up instead of the gnome (which u told me how to disable :))
[02:39] <LinuxJones> pm_: sudo -s (enter your user password) will effectively give you root level terminal. There is no need to enable the root account.
[02:40] <Zoroaster> what command do I run at the command line to view groups
[02:40] <gnomefreak> Zoroaster: groups
[02:40] <vineeth> megaman:well u can make a script that well echoes those 5 lines on the console, copy that script into rcx.d with a S<number>
[02:41] <Zoroaster> gnomefreak, I figured it was a dumb question, should hav tried first, sorry
[02:41] <gnomefreak> rubso: which splashscreen?
[02:41] <vineeth> that S<number> prefix wud decide the order of exec of the script during startup
[02:41] <megaman123> vineeth: what's S<number> ?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> rubso: the one that loads the modules? or the one after log in
[02:41] <vineeth> megaman:well the scripts have a prefix, which if starts with an S
[02:42] <LinuxJones> Zoroaster: cat /etc/group  to see your own groups type groups in terminal
[02:42] <vineeth> the number after that decides the order, see it is sorted and then executed
[02:43] <Basilon> hello
[02:43] <LinuxJones> Basilon: welocme
[02:43] <LinuxJones> err welcome
[02:43] <vineeth> megaman: so like if u need to exec ur script after the  something else has been done, u can assign it a bigger no etc
[02:43] <megaman123> vineeth: k..will try at home :)
[02:43] <Basilon> how are they?
[02:43] <vineeth> megaman:ok
[02:44] <Basilon> hello megaman123
[02:44] <megaman123> vineeth: thanks alot :))
[02:44] <megaman123> hello Basilon
[02:44] <vineeth> megaman:ur always wel
[02:44] <Basilon> ^_^
[02:45] <Basilon> sorry, but I don't speak English
[02:45] <Basilon> I from chile
[02:45] <Basilon> megaman123, what do you do??
[02:46] <LinuxJones> Basilon: what language do you speak, spanish ?
[02:46] <Basilon> yes
[02:46] <nzx> is it possible to make a ubuntu package for nzbget from source?
[02:46] <Basilon> the english is diffcult form me
[02:46] <megaman123> Basilon: i go to school :))
[02:46] <LinuxJones> Basilon: there is a spanish speaking channel if it would be easier for you in #ubuntu-es
[02:46] <Basilon> the english is diffcult for me
[02:47] <Basilon> jAOJOAjOAJOAJoJAA
[02:47] <Basilon> ^_^
[02:47] <Basilon> I new in this
[02:47] <Basilon> I am new in this
[02:47] <Basilon> :p
[02:47] <Basilon> ^_^
[02:47] <soundray> Basilon: enter /topic and read, please
[02:48] <Basilon> mejor hablo en espaol
[02:48] <Basilon> jAJJAjAJJajJAJA
[02:48] <soundray> !es
[02:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:48] <Basilon> LINUX ES BKN, ME GUSTO MUCHO LINUX
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Basilon: join #ubuntu-es
[02:48] <LinuxJones> nzx: if you can compile it you can make a .deb for it. Search google there is a howto for building packages in Ubuntu.
[02:48] <Basilon> exist a spanish channel ????
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Basilon: #ubuntu-es is spanish channel
[02:49] <Basilon> ok
[02:49] <Basilon> tranks
[02:49] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:50] <nroej> hi
[02:51] <joebanan> i dont know how this works, so ill just ask my question. im trying to compile drivers for a wacomtablet and a get this error msg; *** Unable to guess kernel source directory
[02:51] <nroej> hmm i got this really nice keyboard http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=-840&langId=-1&partNumber=73P2620&storeId=10000001 and now i would like to use the hotkeys with ubuntu, any hints?
[02:51] <joebanan> what am i suppose to do?
[02:51] <argpirate> does anyone know how to add the kubuntu dapper beta repos?
[02:51] <rosen> this is driving me crazy !!!! >.< FFS
[02:52] <LinuxJones> joebanan: there are no wacom drivers in the kernel your using right now ?
[02:52] <soundray> joebanan: you'd have to install the kernel source package and unpack /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2 -- but are you sure you have to do this?
[02:52] <rosen> can someone tell me what is the problem with this line ?
[02:52] <rosen>  sudo apt-get install libwww-perl libcompress-zlib-perl libcrypt-blowfish-perl libcrypt-ssleay-perl libfreezethaw-perl libgtk2-trayicon-perl libxml-simple-perl
[02:53] <soundray> Zoroaster: adduser username
[02:54] <soundray> rosen: why, what error does it give you?
[02:54] <rosen> oh many many :O
[02:55] <rosen> can I spam inhere ?
[02:55] <soundray> rosen: did you sudo apt-get update beforehand?
[02:55] <rosen> I believe so
[02:55] <Myself-n-I> pls help
[02:55] <soundray> rosen: no, use pastebin
[02:55] <LinuxJones> rosen: pastebin.ca
[02:55] <soundray> !pastebin
[02:55] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[02:55] <rosen> I can try again
[02:55] <perpetual>  hello!
[02:55] <perpetual>  Does anyone know why, using firefox, the "rules" button is missing when using microsoft exchange's webmail?
[02:55] <Myself-n-I> hi
[02:56] <Myself-n-I> i need help getting Ububtu working thru ms onto net !
[02:56] <l4v4_f10w> anyone here now of any good tutorials for php
[02:56] <Myself-n-I> pls help
[02:56] <l4v4_f10w> myself-n-I:whats wrong?
[02:57] <Master_Shake> l4v4_f10w, do you us bit torrent?
[02:57] <Myself-n-I> hi 14v4
[02:57] <Master_Shake> l4v4_f10w, php.net   change your name if you want anyone to take you seriously.
[02:57] <Master_Shake> use*
[02:57] <LinuxJones> Myself-n-I: you'll need to install some sort of proxy service on the windows machine
[02:57] <Myself-n-I> can we priv dcc ?
[02:57] <perpetual>  Does anyone know why, using firefox, the "rules" button is missing when using microsoft exchange's webmail?
[02:57] <LinuxJones> Myself-n-I: I have no idea how to do that
[02:57] <Master_Shake> perpetual, Because microsuck hates that people know better than to use internet explorer.
[02:57] <l4v4_f10w> master_shake:whats wrong with my screen name
[02:58] <l4v4_f10w> just a name
[02:58] <rosen> soundray - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14172
[02:58] <satlan32> hi
[02:58] <satlan32> question
[02:58] <satlan32> what is this error?
[02:58] <satlan32> uuencode: command not found
[02:58] <argpirate> does anyone know how to add the kubuntu dapper beta repos?
[02:58] <satlan32> while doing make
[02:58] <Frogzoo> satlan32: u need 2 install the uuencode tools
[02:58] <perpetual> Master_Shake, hmm. sure could be, but doesn't it have to do with visual basic or active pages or something like that?
[02:59] <satlan32> Frogzoo how do i do that
[02:59] <satlan32> ?
[02:59] <l4v4_f10w> argpirate:change all breezy to dapper in ur sources.list
[02:59] <Frogzoo> satlan32: sudo apt-get install uuencode
[02:59] <Murrlin> morning
[02:59] <argpirate> i already have ubuntu beta, i want kubunut
[02:59] <Frogzoo> !kubuntu
[02:59] <ubotu> [kubuntu]  Ubuntu+KDE  ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[02:59] <argpirate> i thought you had to add anditianol repo
[03:00] <argpirate> oh , you are so smart bot
[03:00] <Murrlin> my breezy repos don't stat. should I update to dapper ... or something?
[03:00] <Master_Shake> perpetual, Probably asp.
[03:00] <Frogzoo> Murrlin: nope - just use a different repo - or wait & they'll come back
[03:00] <l4v4_f10w> wen is dapper final released?
[03:01] <Murrlin> alright
[03:01] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[03:01] <Myself-n-I> do i just put in default gateway & IP an it will work or not? server 2003 problem
[03:01] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[03:01] <Zoroaster> soundray, I did do that, and it appeared to work, except for whenever I type "sudo users" the only thing that appears is my default user, but not the new user
[03:01] <satlan32> frogzoo did you see my message??
[03:01] <Master_Shake> perpetual, There is no real reason for anything not to "support" (that word really means "we hate you because you have a different opinion") Firefox. There is a Firefox extension that sends false headers telling the server it is internet explorer 6.
[03:01] <Murrlin> (a stat is an 'existance check' of some sort?)
[03:01] <Zoroaster> soundray, I then tried creating the user again, but it says the users already exists
[03:01] <Murrlin> they're probably being updated or restored or something.
[03:01] <Frogzoo> satlan32: do you have universe/multiverse enabled?
[03:02] <satlan32> i don't know... what os this?
[03:02] <Frogzoo> satlan32: this is ubuntu support
[03:02] <Myself-n-I> where can i get help on Ubuntu connection -> ms server2003 ?
[03:02] <satlan32> don't knwo
[03:02] <Frogzoo> !repos
[03:02] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:02] <Frogzoo> satlan32: ^^^
[03:03] <soundray> Zoroaster: the users command does something different from what you think it does. Read man users
[03:03] <soundray> rosen, still here?
[03:03] <rosen> oh yeah
[03:03] <F0LL0W3R> !paste
[03:03] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[03:03] <satlan32> i have 5.10 which one is this?
[03:04] <l4v4_f10w> breezy
[03:04] <Frogzoo> satlan32: breezy
[03:04] <soundray> rosen: can you look at the file /usr/bin/update-perl-sax-parsers -- this is the one that causes the problem. It may be sufficient if you comment out line 90 and run 'dpkg --pending --configure'
[03:04] <F0LL0W3R> !pastebin
[03:04] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:04] <Myself-n-I> pls help -> Ubutu connect 2 www thru ms server2003 ?
[03:04] <satlan32> i have command line...
[03:04] <satlan32> :( no gui
[03:05] <kingpommes> hi everyone.
[03:05] <Myself-n-I> hi kingpommes
[03:06] <freestone> 
[03:06] <kingpommes> I must go. Bye everyone.
[03:06] <Frogzoo> lo kingpommes
[03:06] <soundray> !zh
[03:06] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.
[03:07] <l4v4_f10w> god these bots are getting clever
[03:07] <rosen> soundray, so I put a couple of ## in that file on line90 and then ... what ?
[03:07] <l4v4_f10w> soon u shud be able to have a full convo with one
[03:07] <rosen> <--new to this >.<
[03:07] <soundray> rosen: 'sudo dpkg --pending --configure'
[03:07] <Myself-n-I> 14v4 where can i get help ? ubuntu -> server2003 ?
[03:08] <l4v4_f10w> hmm not sure myself
[03:08] <soundray> rosen: after you've saved the modified file, of course.
[03:08] <Myself-n-I> :(
[03:08] <Myself-n-I> any1
[03:08] <Frogzoo> Myself-n-I: this is ubuntu support - don't understand your problem
[03:08] <l4v4_f10w> myself-n-I:wats exactly wrong
[03:08] <rosen> soundray, aah that seemed to work ! .. yay thanks :)
[03:09] <l4v4_f10w> u say ur brower is connecting thru the windows server
[03:09] <soundray> rosen: it's a dirty hack, nevertheless. You should file a bug...
[03:09] <Myself-n-I> Frog i need to get Ubuntu on www thru server2003 ?
[03:09] <soundray> rosen: against libxml-sax-perl
[03:09] <Myself-n-I> do u know how?
[03:10] <rosen> oh.. hehe still having some dependency problems I need to figure out I think ... I should have taken an image of my ubuntu before I started this I think  ^^
[03:10] <nzx> configure: error: "no zlib found"
[03:10] <nzx>  <-- how can i fix this ?
[03:10] <Frogzoo> Myself-n-I: u mean d/l the ubuntu install cd?
[03:10] <Farhad> when Ubutu 6.6 go out?
[03:10] <soundray> rosen: paste the problem again.
[03:10] <Frogzoo> Farhad: june 1
[03:10] <Ng> Farhad: june 1st
[03:10] <ShereKhan> what soft do I need to make windows games work on ubuntu ?
[03:11] <Frogzoo> ShereKhan: depends - some are native - some require wine
[03:11] <Farhad> 6.06
[03:11] <Farhad> ?
[03:11] <ShereKhan> thanx
[03:11] <l4v4_f10w> even wine dont work on most lastest games
[03:11] <Frogzoo> l4v4_f10w: humbug
[03:11] <l4v4_f10w> that requires directx
[03:11] <Farhad> oh thx
[03:11] <babyboy> Hi, what do tall rekkon i should do to make evrything run through proxy... the terminal the web browser... namp  the works?
[03:11] <Myself-n-I> Frog - ubuntu installed i need 2 get www access thru server2003
[03:12] <l4v4_f10w> i heard that theres one u can get but its a shareware
[03:12] <ShereKhan> have u tryied fifa2005 with wine ?? or GTA Vice city ?
[03:12] <Frogzoo> Myself-n-I: you'll need to setup a proxy on the w2k3 box - but that's a doze problem
[03:12] <Ng> www.winehq.com lists compatibility with windows software, or there's transgaming.com if you want to buy a version of wine that's customised for directx games
[03:12] <rosen> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14175
[03:12] <vompatti> How do i get mp3 files to work :s
[03:12] <vompatti> !mp3
[03:12] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:13] <l4v4_f10w> its called "crossover" not sure
[03:13] <babyboy> with wine tho when u want to install somthing that requres 3 cds it doesnt let you take the cd out to put the other one in... :S
[03:13] <Frogzoo> l4v4_f10w: you should take a look at the appdb at winehq.org
[03:13] <l4v4_f10w> but im pretty sure u can play fifa with it
[03:13] <Ng> l4v4_f10w: crossover is better for office type applications, transgaming's Cedega is better for games
[03:13] <ShereKhan> tnx
[03:13] <mutante> l4v4_f10w: "crossover office" is quite good, i used it to be able to use MS Excel and Adobe Photoshop on Linux
[03:13] <l4v4_f10w> frogzoo:going thru it now
[03:14] <babyboy> !proxy
[03:14] <ubotu> babyboy: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:14] <l4v4_f10w> just installed wine yday
[03:14] <l4v4_f10w> so i didnt mean to offend u, just wat happend with me
[03:14] <Frogzoo> l4v4_f10w: btw, breezy's wine version is rubbish - best to build from source
[03:15] <l4v4_f10w> ya thats what i did, my first time building a package was exciting
[03:15] <soundray> rosen: I think this is the point where you will need perl support rather than ubuntu support.
[03:15] <l4v4_f10w> long but it was exciting
[03:15] <Frogzoo> l4v4_f10w: so you now have wine 0.9.12 ?
[03:15] <Otacon22> hi all, i have a problem with parallel on ubuntu, anyone can help me?
[03:15] <soundray> rosen: I don't think Crypt::Simple has been packaged for ubuntu
[03:15] <beezly> i've been working on putting my /etc directory under bzr control - it's mentioned in the wiki - is anyone else still wearing it?
[03:15] <Otacon22> I want to connect an lcd display
[03:15] <l4v4_f10w> not sure wat version i got
[03:16] <rosen> soundray, yeah I just tried sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install Crypt::Simple'..... hoping for 'not too many' errors
[03:16] <l4v4_f10w> but i followed the guide from www.winehw~
[03:16] <Frogzoo> l4v4_f10w: wine --version
[03:16] <soundray> rosen, good luck...
[03:16] <l4v4_f10w> lol or i cud try that
[03:16] <rosen> soundray, thanks I'll need it :P
[03:16] <rosen> soundray, and thanks for the help
[03:16] <l4v4_f10w> 0.9.13
[03:17] <pm_> any one can tell me a good text editor with highlight?
[03:17] <l4v4_f10w> im trying to get sum of my online poker too work but they require active x support
[03:17] <Frogzoo> pm_: emacs probly
[03:17] <kevin> heey
[03:18] <Frogzoo> l4v4_f10w: install the moz active x
[03:18] <johnh_> Hey guys
[03:18] <nzx> so is drapper drake the stable release now, someone said june 1st was the release date
[03:18] <l4v4_f10w> thx,
[03:18] <johnh_> Anyone have any experiance getting a promise sx4000 to work?
[03:19] <bzerodi> is there an option to disable gcc's coloring of error messages in dapper ? man,info,google turned up nothing
[03:19] <Frogzoo> nzx: dapper's currently beta -releases june 1
[03:19] <nzx> Frogzoo, oh cool, so next month then
[03:19] <Frogzoo> nzx: so they say...
[03:20] <gnomefreak> dapper is releasing its final pre-release on may 25th than final on june 1
[03:20] <nzx> i'm trying to compile nzbget, and getting this error configure: error: "no zlib found"
[03:20] <nzx> , any ideas ?
[03:20] <bzerodi> or (arguably) better, make it use normal ecma-48 codes ?
[03:20] <l4v4_f10w> frogzoo: cant seem to see that package
[03:21] <Frogzoo> l4v4_f10w: it's not a package - you need to install it through wine - mozilla_activex_controls - it's somewhere on winehq.org
[03:21] <nzx> i've tried installing a bunch on zlib packages, but still no luck
[03:21] <Frogzoo> l4v4_f10w: or probly on mozilla.com...
[03:22] <bzerodi> hmm. noone else bumped into this ?
[03:22] <l4v4_f10w> instead of brothering u guys think it be better for me to read abit more on wine
[03:22] <l4v4_f10w> thats see how that goes
[03:23] <ejmr> Afternoon chaps, can anyone please tell me where I should report what appears to be a leak in battstat-applet in the latest Dapper?
[03:23] <ramvi> Heya, I just installed breezer on a laptop here. Had to use vga=771 to get the installation working. As the installaion completed and X was suppost to start I got an errormessage
[03:23] <satlan32> how do i update my sources list?
[03:24] <nephilimslave200> hi dudes , can anyone tell me if this distro is ok for duel booting with xp , thanxs and sorry for interrupting
[03:24] <Otacon22> can anyone tell me what can I use to print on a parallel LCD display on ubuntu linux?
[03:24] <Otacon22> a program..
[03:24] <dvdman_> Anyone have any experiance getting a promise sx4000 to work in 2.6 kernel?
[03:25] <frood_wrk> I'm having a problem with incompatibility between my Nvidia driver kernel modules and X modules on Kubuntu 5.10. I recently upgraded to an Nvidia GeForce6600 card. After much ado I was able to compile the newest Nvidia drivers for the card and get X up and running. After that I ran Automatix to get some useful utils and checked the "Nvidia X module update" (Or something like that). Ever since X will not start. I get an error message sayin
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> well you are going to get told.. to never use Automatix. :P for a start.
[03:26] <Ng> frood_wrk: automatix is junk, please avoid it :/
[03:26] <Frogzoo> l4v4_f10w: for wine support, you'd do better at #winehq
[03:26] <Ng> frood_wrk: generally speaking it's best to use the nvidia modules included in ubuntu
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> frood_wrk,  you ever have the nvidia stuff working?
[03:26] <l4v4_f10w> thats great cheers
[03:27] <dvdman_> i guess no one knows
[03:28] <frood_wrk> Ng : Too late.
[03:28] <frood_wrk> Dr_Willis : Yeah. It was working fine till I ran Automatix
[03:28] <tnt__> Hi everyone. I'd like to install ubuntu dapper with software RAID0. I've create the /dev/md1 device (md0 is my swap) but the installer doesn't allow me to select it ...
[03:28] <linux_galore> frood_wrk: just install the official nvidia driver again
[03:29] <ramvi> Just installed breezy. X won't start. What do I do?
[03:29] <frood_wrk> linux_galore : I did. Didn't take.
[03:29] <ramvi> "Failed to start the X server"
[03:30] <ramvi> (EE) Radeon(0): MergedFB does not work with Option UseFBDev, MergedFB mode is disabled 05
[03:30] <Frogzoo> !tell ramvi about fixres
[03:30] <ramvi> thanks
[03:31] <frood_wrk> Hold on. Lemme boot into linux and see if I can get some kinda console IRC client
[03:31] <frood_wrk> apt-get install epic4-script-lice, right?
[03:31] <Frogzoo> frood_wrk: irssi
[03:33] <selinium> hi all. I am getting the 'Session lasted for less than 10 seconds message' I have forgotten how to resolve it. Any ideas.
[03:33] <selinium> hi ompaul :)
[03:34] <Sandma> gm ubuntu world
[03:35] <Sandma> can anyone tell me why Firefox is not allowing java applets chat to work?? do I need some type of plugin??
[03:35] <Ng> Sandma: see the RestrictedFormats wiki page, it covers installing java
[03:36] <Ng> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:36] <Ng> I'd recommend following the "Sun Java" section, not the blackdown section
[03:37] <selinium> ? I can only see people loggion in and out, no chat (irssi) Seems unusual? ANy one about?
[03:38] <ramvi> Frogzoo, I can't find my HorizSync and VertRefresh
[03:38] <johannes__> hi- how would i make an image of a dualboot install with win and ubuntu 5.10 (5 partitions) on 1 harddrive?
[03:39] <dooglus> johannes__: dd
[03:39] <johannes__> could i transfer an image of the whole system to a different comp
[03:39] <johannes__> dd?
[03:39] <dooglus> 'man dd'
[03:39] <satlan32> hi
[03:39] <satlan32> anyone used callflow before?
[03:40] <ramvi> Just installed breezy. X won't start because the HorizSync and VertRefresh isn't autodetected. And I can't find the values :(
[03:40] <ramvi> what do i do?
[03:41] <pshore> Ok. here is the error X gives me - Error: API mismatch: The Nvidia Kernel module has the version 1.0-7667 but this X module has version 1.0-8756
[03:41] <johannes__> dooglus sry but i cannot say that dd is helping much
[03:41] <pshore> Do I just recompile the driver?
[03:41] <tibs> hi, somebody has tried kernel 2.6.16.16?
[03:41] <Frogzoo> ramvi: google for the values
[03:42] <dooglus> johannes__: dd if=/dev/hda of=image bs=1 count=<size of disk>
[03:42] <Ng> johannes__: you can image an entire hard disk with "sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/path/to/some.img" (where /path/ is not on hda otherwise you're making an image on the disk you're imaging, which may confuse things)
[03:42] <dvdman_> Anyone have any experiance getting a promise sx4000 to work in 2.6 kernel?
[03:42] <dvdman_> it's a raid card
[03:42] <ramvi> Frogzoo, there's a problem with google and my isp today it seems. But I searched yahoo, and I coudn't find anything
[03:42] <johannes__> ng dooglus thank you both
[03:43] <pm_> which is the package manager of ubuntu?
[03:43] <pm_> i've lost the add/remove programs
[03:43] <tibs> anyone have trided kernel 2.6.16.16?
[03:43] <Frogzoo> !apt
[03:43] <ubotu> somebody said apt was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[03:44] <Frogzoo> pm_: see apt ^^^
[03:44] <johannes__> how would i set up the image on a completely blank notebook?
[03:44] <pm_> Frogzoo: i know apt, but which app is started when i click in the add/remove programs?
[03:45] <dooglus> johannes__: I guess using a live cd
[03:46] <Frogzoo> pm_: gnome-app-install ?
[03:46] <d3vice> hi, which package provides the kernel source in /usr/src/linux ?
[03:46] <johannes__> dooglus ok, then i would use gparted and partition
[03:46] <pm_> Frogzoo: thanks
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> adept_installer under kubuntu gets ran when ya use 'add/remove programs'
[03:47] <dooglus> johannes__: the image file should define the partition sizes I think.  just dd the image file onto the laptop's disk
[03:47] <johannes__> dooglus in the image are the partitons separated or does it behave like one partiton again? how would i split them to the
[03:47] <johannes__> dooglus
[03:47] <johannes__> dooglus ah ok thx
[03:47] <dooglus> johannes__: i'm not sure, but it's worth a go
[03:47] <johannes__> didnt know  so i do not need to partition ?
[03:48] <dooglus> johannes__: the partition table is on the disk, so it's in the disk image
[03:48] <johannes__> dooglus ok thx
[03:48] <dooglus> johannes__: let us know if it works!
[03:48] <christos> hello, is there a way to install ubuntu on a partition and to load it some way without changing the mbr?
[03:49] <dooglus> christos: you can boot from floppy
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> :P if ya have a floppy drive.
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> or use some of the annoying windows boot managers.
[03:49] <vompatti> Where is sources.list
[03:49] <vompatti> i forgot already :s
[03:49] <dooglus> vompatti: /etc/apt/
[03:49] <vompatti> Thanks
[03:50] <dooglus> is there any way to get flash 8 for ubuntu?
[03:50] <christos> no floppy. Can i use the ubuntu cd or a grub boot cd or something?
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> flash 8 is out for linux now?
[03:51] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: i don't think so
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> christos,  theres always a way.. but it may take some learning of how grub works.
[03:51] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: maybe there's a way of using the win32 flash 8?
[03:51] <tnt__> Is it possible do boot the graphical cd in textmode install ?
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> dooglus,  i have gotten into the habbit of disabling whatever flash is on web sites. :P so ive not looked into flash8 at all.
[03:51] <Frogzoo> tnt__: tried expert mode mebbe?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> 'friends dont let friends use flash' :P
[03:52] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: i want to play hapland 3
[03:52] <frood_wrk> Ok.. I recompiled my Nvidia drivers and launched X. X ran just fine. I go back to the same problem the next time I reboot though.
[03:52] <frood_wrk> Why isn't the new driver taking?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> 'friends dont let friends play hapland3' :P  (whatever that is) lol.
[03:52] <tnt__> tnt__: How to do that ?
[03:53] <mak> hi everyone.. i just installed ubuntu and have a problem with my refresh rate.. how can i reconfigure the x-server?
[03:53] <frood_wrk> edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[03:54] <johannes__> has someone got a mobile that works convincingly with ubuntu ?
[03:54] <mak> well.. ill try that.. thx
[03:55] <Frogzoo> johannes__: mobile? phone? or laptop?
[03:56] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: http://www.foon.co.uk/farcade/hapland3/ - it's a flash game
[03:56] <johannes__> a mobile phone Frogzoo that could be synced with contacts eg on the lappie
[03:56] <mak> what is a good value for horizsync?
[03:57] <johannes__> i heard from the sony ericsson w800 that it would work good that s to expensive
[03:57] <Blippe> mak, depends on your screen
[03:57] <mak> dont know it exactly for my monitor
[03:57] <frood_wrk> I'm having trouble with Nvidia drivers on X. I downloaded and compiled the new drivers, Got X to run. I'm using it right now. The problem is that when I reboot the Nvidia Kernel drivers revert back to a previous version and X won't run. How can I make the drivers take so I don't have to recompile them every time I want to run X?
[03:57] <Frogzoo> mak: google for your monitor & you'll find an xorg.conf somewhere
[03:58] <mak> ok thx
[03:58] <Blippe> mak, what is wrong with the values you got with the installation of ubuntu
[03:59] <Frogzoo> !fixres
[03:59] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:59] <Frogzoo> Blippe: the installer gets it wrong reasonably often
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> dooglus,  i just saw there was a update to flash7 in the dapper updates. :P
[04:00] <Manager> i like good head
[04:00] <nzx> what web browsers are available on ubuntu ?
[04:00] <Manager> IE
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> nzx,  most of them. :P
[04:00] <Nightshift> nzx:firefox
[04:01] <Nightshift> mozilla,etc
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> I perfer firefox. but testing out the latest opera now as well.
[04:01] <instabin1> oh no not a browser flame war
[04:01] <nzx> Dr_Willis, how do i install opera ?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> !opera
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> type that and read the bot url
[04:01] <instabin1> !free
[04:01] <ubotu> free is, like, Free as in free software = free as in freedom. For more info visit:http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[04:01] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=581&threadid=1080849#3884780 says that flash 8 will never be available for linux - they'll skip straight to 8.5
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> dooglus,  guess that will show US! wont it! :p
[04:02] <tibs> !kernel
[04:03] <instabin1> any one know of a good pop3 proxy that can quarentine messages
[04:03] <instabin1> based on weather the message is spam or not
[04:04] <KenSentMe> Does anyone here uses Kino to capture dv video?
[04:04] <waky> moin
[04:05] <KenSentMe> waky: you?
[04:06] <waky> no Kennie
[04:06] <waky> KenSentMe,
[04:07] <nox-Hand> Hey
[04:07] <nox-Hand> How would I unzip a .zip file from command line, or some other Linux (( NON KDE )) app?
[04:07] <nox-Hand> Dunno which
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> unzip whatever.zip
[04:07] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis, DOH!
[04:07] <gjeanne> coucou tout le modne !!!
[04:07] <borowicz> salut
[04:07] <nox-Hand> I was guessing something harder..
[04:08] <gjeanne> a va bonhomme
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  :P and  ya can even do  unzip '*.zip' i think.
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  just dont try to use bunzip2 when ya mean unzip (or visa versa)
[04:08] <nox-Hand> =
[04:08] <gjeanne> bande de nOOb de Linux
[04:11] <felipe__> cdrecord wont let me burn my cds, Im getting the following message: cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.12-10-686
[04:11] <felipe__> cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
[04:11] <felipe__> cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
[04:11] <felipe__> cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
[04:11] <felipe__> cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().
[04:11] <felipe__> cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
[04:12] <Ng> !tell felipe__ about paste
[04:12] <Ng> felipe__: post the complete output to a pastebin - but I'd guess you may want to use sudo
[04:13] <felipe__> Ng, You mean start the burning frontend with sudo or gksudo?
[04:14] <Ng> yeah
[04:14] <Ng> gksudo most likely
[04:14] <KenSentMe> does anyone here has got firewire working properly?
[04:17] <frood_wrk> Does anyone know where automatix installs firefox to? My firefox shortcut no longer works
[04:17] <felipe__> Ng, I got a similar message...
[04:17] <Ng> frood_wrk: don't use automatix
[04:17] <Ng> frood_wrk: ignore anything its done and go with the regular ubuntu stuff
[04:17] <Ng> felipe__: then you should proabbyl paste the complete output to a pastebin
[04:17] <outlawcrook> i cant get Ubuntu to connect to this server
[04:18] <Ng> frood_wrk: you might want to do "sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox" in a terminal
[04:18] <imonkey> hello, i would like to install fluxbox on ubuntu for my verry old computer but i would like to keep my system up-to-data and sinds i dont have the update icon in system tray anymore i was wondering are there some commands to keep a system up to date?
[04:18] <intelikey> anyone know how to stop udev from mounting /dev at boot time ?
[04:18] <Ng> intelikey: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:18] <outlawcrook> says mabey you misspelled it
[04:18] <intelikey> ng been there.
[04:19] <intelikey> has nothing to do with my Q.
[04:19] <Ng> ehh, wrong person :)
[04:19] <Ng> imonkey: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:19] <intelikey> :)
[04:20] <intelikey>           so does anyone know how to stop udev from mounting /dev at boot time ?
[04:20] <imonkey> Ng awsome thanks alot could you explain to me what command does exactly what? im just wondering :)
[04:20] <Ng> imonkey: it's actually two commands. the first one updates the package listings held locally by apt and the second looks in those listings for any available upgrades
[04:20] <intelikey> i have already did apt-get remove udev    but that doesn't remove it from the initramfs.img
[04:21] <Ng> imonkey: the && means that your shell will only execute the second command if the first one succeeds
[04:21] <intelikey> !tell imonkey about cli
[04:21] <felipe__> Ng, which is the address of pastebin?
[04:21] <Ng> !tell felipe__ about pastebin
[04:21] <dooglus> !paste
[04:21] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:21] <imonkey> intelikey: thanks
[04:21] <intelikey> np
[04:22] <intelikey> no help on udev eeeh ?
[04:23] <outlawcrook> i cant get Ubuntu to connect to this server
[04:23] <outlawcrook> i cant get Ubuntu to connect to this server
[04:23] <outlawcrook> says mabey you misspelled it
[04:24] <intelikey> which server ?
[04:24] <outlawcrook> sorry forthe bouble post there
[04:24] <outlawcrook> :)
[04:24] <outlawcrook> this irc server
[04:24] <outlawcrook> i am my xp machine
[04:24] <intelikey> irc.freenode.net ?
[04:24] <dreamthief> lol
[04:24] <outlawcrook> yea
[04:24] <dreamthief> this is an german channel
[04:24] <dreamthief> ^^
[04:24] <Frogzoo_> !de
[04:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:25] <intelikey> iptables -L  and see why it's blocked
[04:25] <cwillu> anybody have any luck geting dosemu running?
[04:25] <axisme> did you try via the IP 140.211.166.3
[04:25] <axisme> rather than dns
[04:25] <intelikey> cwillu i have used it many times.
[04:25] <outlawcrook> no will try that
[04:26] <cwillu> so in theory it should work out the box on ubuntu?
[04:26] <Frogzoo> intelikey: iptables -L -v   i find helps
[04:26] <intelikey> cwillu i don't use the freedos that is packaged with it tho
[04:26] <intelikey> Frogzoo yea -Lv  :)
[04:26] <cwillu> I'm getting a coopthreads error when I launch it;  only google I could find was a dead end of somebody else with the same problem (no responses) :)
[04:27] <cwillu> "low mem heap + stack are too big"
[04:27] <outlawcrook> k that got it axisme
[04:27] <outlawcrook> thanks
[04:27] <ricky_> worked i am in now this is outlawcrook
[04:29] <matt_> hey guys how can i bridge 2 connections on ubuntu
[04:29] <axisme> so your dns isn't working
[04:29] <axisme> can you get onto websites?
[04:30] <matt_> is thta to me sorry?
[04:30] <axisme> to ricky_
[04:30] <matt_> ok sorry
[04:30] <outlawcrook> any help on getting my wireless linksys WPC11 ver. 4 card working
[04:30] <outlawcrook> ??
[04:30] <felipe__> I cannot burn cds, cdrecord threw the following message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14178
[04:30] <Frogzoo> matt_: bridge_utils is one way
[04:30] <outlawcrook> yea
[04:30] <outlawcrook> i can get to webpages
[04:31] <cwillu> outlawcrook, what's the problem you're having?
[04:32] <outlawcrook> I cant get my wireless going sees it in device manager but that is it
[04:32] <Unkn0wN> Hey all
[04:32] <matt_> frogzoo: can i get that throught aptget
[04:32] <Unkn0wN> Anyone know what the command is to start VNC on ubuntu 5.10?
[04:32] <raerklegler> Does anyone know why the 2.16.15-21-386 kernel headers are missing in the repos?
[04:33] <tomasz> hi - is anybody aware of some video capture tool capable of capturing an X11 application output ?
[04:33] <outlawcrook> in device manager shows it as RTL8180L
[04:33] <axisme> using wep or wpa, outlawcrook?
[04:33] <Manager> ubuntu is very sexual
[04:34] <Manager> i say, ubuntu is very sexual
[04:34] <LinuxJones> tomasz: istanbul and a few others
[04:34] <outlawcrook> mmm wep or wpa???
[04:34] <outlawcrook> would be wep i think
[04:34] <felipe__> Unkn0wN, System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[04:34] <axisme> ok so its detected ok
[04:34] <outlawcrook> just from card to linksys router to internet
[04:34] <outlawcrook> DHCP
[04:34] <axisme> so what happens when you try and connect to a wireless
[04:34] <Unkn0wN> Thank you felipe
[04:35] <LinuxJones> tomasz: xvidcap is another as is wink (for creating tutorials...sadly in flash format)
[04:35] <animepunkw> Any one know a good format tool or is there a command line i can use ?
[04:36] <outlawcrook> the only 2 choices i have are the eth0 (my wired line) and lo which i have no clue what that is
[04:36] <tomasz> LinuxJones: I'll check 'em out now :), thx
[04:36] <axisme> ok, so its not showing then?
[04:36] <outlawcrook> no just in device manager
[04:37] <outlawcrook> the lo is called local loopback?
[04:37] <snowfaked> yep, it's loopback interface
[04:38] <vocious> Can anyone help with a sound card problem ?
[04:38] <outlawcrook> so how do i get hte wireless to show up?
[04:38] <Manager> i like good head
[04:39] <Amaranth> Manager: ...
[04:39] <vocious> Why cant I choose a different sound card other then default ? :(
[04:39] <axisme> see your pm
[04:39] <Manager> Amaranth, i said i like good head
[04:39] <Amaranth> !language
[04:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:40] <matt_> frogzoo: can i get that throught aptget
[04:40] <matthew_w> Hey folks, how can I configure my pppoe connection?  Whenever I run pppoeconf, it says "pap authentication failed, could not change mtu, could not change mru"
[04:40] <Manager> ok
[04:40] <regebro> Hmmm. Some basic questions here.... I have been asked to install some software on a Ubuntu system. It turns out apt-get is broken.... Probably I need to upgrade glibc++.
[04:40] <regebro> Question 1: How do I know which version of Ubuntu this is?
[04:41] <dooglus> regebro: lsb_release -d
[04:41] <Amaranth> regebro: cat /etc/lsb-release
[04:41] <regebro> Aha! Breezy. Thank you very much.
[04:41] <Amaranth> or what dooglus said
[04:41] <theBishop> is anyone running the latest Xgl/compiz here?
[04:41] <matt_> can anyone help me please
[04:42] <Amaranth> theBishop: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:42] <vocious> Me too please
[04:42] <theBishop> Amaranth, thanks man
[04:42] <Amaranth> !ask
[04:42] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[04:42] <cdubya> mornin, all
[04:42] <elux> hi
[04:42] <elux> just curious but whats all the hype about ubuntu
[04:42] <elux> last year it was gentoo .. and now ubuntu
[04:42] <regebro> Since apt-get is broken, I need to upgrade it and/or glibc++, really) with dpkg.
[04:42] <regebro> Quetsion #2: There is no way to get dpkg to download all dependencies, right?
[04:42] <elux> im an osx user myself but linux is becoming more appealing as a desktop os -- with xgl evolving
[04:43] <regebro> You need apt-get for that, correct?
[04:43] <matt_> how can i bridge two network connections
[04:43] <matthew_w> It's a big problem, with me, because I can't connect to the internet, and I have to use a separate computer, pppoeconf just doesn't do it.
[04:43] <rumba> hi
[04:43] <Amaranth> regebro: What do you mean by broken?
[04:43] <cdubya> elux, just my opinion, but I think it's just because ubuntu is cool. :-P
[04:43] <dooglus> matt_: did you install 'bridge_utils'?
[04:43] <Hobbsee> regebro: apt-get build-dep packagename
[04:43] <elux> "is cool" doesnt mean shit to me
[04:44] <elux> be more specific
[04:44] <Amaranth> elux: Language.
[04:44] <regebro> Amaranth: I get an error: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.4' not found
[04:44] <rumba> i have a tiwnhan DVD card , i need a drivers for it , as my system hang when tryin to plug it on
[04:44] <matt_> i did a apt get for "bridge_utils2 but it couldnt find anything
[04:44] <regebro> Hobbsee: No, see apt-get is broken,
[04:44] <Hobbsee> ah
[04:44] <elux> language?
[04:44] <cdubya> elux, I find it very easy to navigate, configure, and love the packaging system
[04:44] <dooglus> !info bridge-utils
[04:44] <ubotu> bridge-utils: (Utilities for configuring the Linux ethernet bridge), section net, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 148 kB
[04:44] <Amaranth> elux: No swearing, please.
[04:44] <elux> is the packaging system based on debian (dpkg ..?)
[04:44] <Amaranth> regebro: when you run apt-get it says that?
[04:44] <cdubya> elux, yep
[04:44] <Amaranth> elux: Yep, apt and dpkg.
[04:45] <elux> hahaha .. swearing?  "shit" ?  are you kidding me
[04:45] <regebro> Amaranth:  Yes. I found somebody with the same error in some mailinglist, and it seems to bee a version mismatch.
[04:45] <Amaranth> regebro: You must have seriously broken things to make apt-get give an error like that. :P
[04:45] <elux> amaranth: did your mom help you get dressed in the morning? :P
[04:45] <elux> grow up :)
[04:45] <Amaranth> elux: Ahem.
[04:45] <elux> ohh shit
[04:45] <dooglus> elux: that's nothing.  just now 'head' was apparently swearing, too
[04:45] <regebro> Amaranth: Trust me, I aint done nothing. :) It's not myc server.
[04:45] <matt_> how do i run bridge-utils?
[04:46] <Amaranth> dooglus: Talking about "good head" isn't exactly appropriate.
[04:46] <elux> lol, buddy -- i could never come here again and i could care less..
[04:46] <elux> relax... smell the roses
[04:46] <Amaranth> elux: Then do so. Go pay $200 for your shiny black macbook.
[04:46] <regebro> So, to revert to my questions: I need to download all necessary dependencies manually and install them with dpkg, I assume?
[04:46] <rumba> need help
[04:46] <matt_> soryy i installed bridge-utils throught apt-get but how do i run it then
[04:47] <regebro> So Question #3: How can I know what packages and versions a package depends on?
[04:47] <elux> i just want a real answer as to why ubuntu has become the distro of choice
[04:47] <elux> besides it copied debian's packaging system
[04:47] <dooglus> matt_: /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/ has some documentation.  see also 'man brctl'
[04:47] <elux> and maybe has an easy installation process? .. or that it configures gnome for you .. all of that stuff doesnt matter
[04:47] <regebro> elux: Because Ubuntu works smoother. It's the first Linux that I find even remotely useable.
[04:47] <dooglus> Amaranth: having a good head can help you have good thoughts
[04:47] <elux> gotcha
[04:48] <rumba> hey all any one help please
[04:48] <elux> perfect
[04:48] <elux> thanks for the answer
[04:48] <elux> so its more polished
[04:48] <soundray> regebro: you can get apt-get to give you a list of urls that you can then feed to wget on another machine.
[04:48] <elux> works right out of the box .. "just works"
[04:48] <theverant> what's your guys opinion on minimum system requirements for ubuntu?
[04:48] <regebro> soundray: No, because apt-get is broken.
[04:48] <Vocious-> Can someone help me with a Sound Card problem ? I cant seem to choose anything other then the default sound card
[04:48] <cdubya> elux, that's why I use it.
[04:48] <elux> ok
[04:48] <regebro> elux: Yup.
[04:48] <elux> thats what i was looking for
[04:48] <elux> thanks
[04:48] <rumba> i have a DVB card problem any one help ?
[04:48] <soundray> regebro: oh, sorry, I'll read back...
[04:48] <theverant> elux - "just works" is very subjective
[04:48] <elux> but. os x is that times 1000 :P
[04:49] <elux> maybe more expensive.  but worth every penny
[04:49] <snowfaked> well, i have p-m 1.7GHz with gigabyte of ram and firefox still seems to lag more tha nin windows
[04:49] <cdubya> elux, installed on my laptop in a very short time as soon as I got this thing and grew tired of SuSE being an absolute hog on this thing.....which isn't a blazing laptop, but it's new.
[04:49] <regebro> soundray: No problem. I just need the answer to the same question, but in a way that does not involve apt-get. :)
[04:49] <elux> i think linux will be the OS of choice in about 7 years .. its still not evolved enough
[04:49] <dooglus> regebro: you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find the package files
[04:49] <elux> have fun guys
[04:49] <elux> thanks
[04:49] <Vocious-> !ask
[04:49] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[04:49] <elux> bye
[04:50] <Manager> !ask away
[04:50] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Manager
[04:50] <Manager> !ask
[04:50] <marcie> hi, at the moment my configuration is fine (someday i'll have to worry about the sound card not working...). I was wondering what was the right channel for someone new to linux to talk about how it works as well as programs that might be helpful
[04:50] <Manager> !u
[04:50] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Manager
[04:50] <Manager> !u
[04:50] <Manager> saxin the city
[04:50] <dooglus> regebro: that site will tell you the dependencies, too
[04:50] <regebro> dooglus: Aha, it lists dependencies. OK, that will do I guess. Thanks! :)
[04:50] <matthew_w> What the heck is going on with this?!!
[04:51] <Manager> saxin the city
[04:51] <saxin> ?
[04:51] <Manager> sex in the city
[04:51] <Manager> "saxin the city"
[04:51] <felipe__> I cannot burn cds, something to do with cdrecord I posted in pastebin the output message, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14178
[04:51] <Manager> sarah jessica parker loves to gargle cum
[04:52] <marcie> my end goal is to write to my mp3 player...
[04:52] <dooglus> Manager: any chance you could stop being so silly?
[04:52] <Vocious-> Could i whisper a person for some help with Sound problem ?
[04:52] <Manager> ok
[04:52] <MystaMax> i dont think silly is the proper word?
[04:52] <matthew_w> The pppoe SIMPLY WILL NOT work, it's so annoying, I can't connect to the internet, and I keep getting "PAP Authentication failed"... help
[04:52] <crysalis> is there away for me to configure my Ctrl button to act as right click? i was able to do it in Yellow Dog..but i can't find the setting in Ubuntu
[04:53] <Manager> y do u wanna do that
[04:53] <rumba> i need help :'(
[04:53] <crysalis> cause im runnig Ubuntu on an iBook...
[04:53] <jeld> felipe__, well, seems like the device you are using is wrong, can you paste the command you are trying to run?
[04:53] <Manager> i books are shit
[04:54] <rumba> any body c me here ^o)?
[04:54] <MystaMax> ur worthless manager
[04:54] <regebro> Ah, crap! That's probably not the error at all. I do indeed have the last versions for breezy of both libstdc++6 and apt.
[04:54] <MystaMax> why reply if you aren't helping anyone?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> Manager: and MystaMax go somewhere else with that
[04:54] <cdubya> crysalis, I can't remember which button I used......
[04:54] <cdubya> gah
[04:54] <cwillu> !ops
[04:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[04:54] <Tingle> could someone tell me where i can disable/enable tty's in ubnutu? (in freebsd it was /etc/ttys IIRC)
[04:54] <MystaMax> ur funny
[04:54] <cdubya> think it was F12 or F10?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> cwillu: ?
[04:54] <rumba> me mysta?
[04:54] <ahmad> Hey! I need help installing a graphics driver ,i have downloaded the binary. Can someone help?
[04:54] <cwillu> wondering about manager
[04:54] <felipe__> jeld, I tryed to burn a cd with arson, i added a single file and hit the burn button
[04:54] <Manager> wondering what
[04:54] <MystaMax> nope gnomefreak
[04:55] <gnomefreak> cwillu: i know ive been watching
[04:55] <cwillu> k :)
[04:55] <jeld> felipe__, well, hold on, let me get arson installed
[04:55] <rumba> okay
[04:55] <crysalis> ooh cool..thanks cdubya it is F12
[04:55] <rumba> can u help me
[04:55] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:55] <cdubya> crysalis, np. glad it worked. :)
[04:55] <soundray> gnomefreak: thanks, what a relief.
[04:55] <felipe__> jeld, Ok, thanks
[04:55] <rumba> i have a problem withm y DVB card
[04:55] <rumba> my*
[04:55] <ahmad> Hey! I need help installing a graphics driver ,i have downloaded the binary. Can someone help?
[04:55] <matt_> ok next question does anyone have their ps2 hooked up 2 ubuntu
[04:56] <ahmad> How the hell can you hook up your ps2 to ubuntu? Or ps2 port?
[04:56] <csete> Hello.  What are the chances of getting this fix http://www.cups.org/str.php?L1667 into Dapper?   I know I can compile it myself, but it would be nice to pick it up as part of the package?
[04:56] <jeld> felipe__, ah! crap its KDE, I am melting, I am melting, in any case, I am not going to install half a KDE for it, but try to run "sudo cdrecord -scanbus" from konsole
[04:56] <soundray> rumba, what problem is that?
[04:56] <rumba> my system freez when i plug in the card
[04:56] <rumba> am running ubunto now without it
[04:56] <soundray> rumba: USB?
[04:56] <rumba> its tiwnhan DVB plus
[04:57] <rpedro> !cedega
[04:57] <felipe__> jeld, Ok gimme a sec. BTW I also have gnome and gnome baker and I thing it gives the same error
[04:57] <rumba> no a DVB card
[04:57] <rumba> no PCI
[04:57] <matthew_w> Abandon hope, ye who wish to use PPPOE
[04:57] <gnomefreak> ahmad: there is a way i just havent tried it yet (atleast i have heard of a way)
[04:57] <bert> !skype
[04:57] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[04:57] <Tingle> !ttys
[04:57] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (c-a-F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[04:57] <cwillu> (left ctrl and alt though)
[04:57] <soundray> rumba: you shouldn't plug a PCI card while the computer is running. Or is that not what you are doing?
[04:58] <bert> !ntsysv
[04:58] <ubotu> bert: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:58] <rumba> i unpluged it while its off sure now i need to plug it in again and use it
[04:58] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : My friend is a total nerd he built his own linux, and put an xbox in his pc, and he like is ukltra smart, but he didnt make ti public
[04:58] <jeld> felipe__, actually I just saw that this line is present "Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported." which means that cdrecord is called with something like dev=/dev/hdc and from the looks of it it just doesn't find the device. Are you sure you configured it to use the right drive?
[04:58] <rumba> but when i do ubunto freezed on booting
[04:58] <Tingle> could someone tell me where i can disable/enable tty's in ubnutu? (in freebsd it was /etc/ttys IIRC)
[04:58] <theverant> I have to refurbish a bunch of donated PCs for a non profit - anyone have an idea about minimum system requirements for Ubutnu?
[04:58] <soundray> rumba: do you know for a fact that this card is supported?
[04:58] <matthew_w> !pppoe
[04:58] <ubotu> I heard pppoe is Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[04:59] <Hobbsee> Tingle: /etc/inittab
[04:59] <Tingle> !tty
[04:59] <ubotu> Tingle: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:59] <theverant> they could be P1s for all I know... I haven't seen them yet
[04:59] <rumba> no i dont know
[04:59] <Tingle> Hobbsee: thanks alot
[04:59] <felipe__> jeld, Well, I assumed that installing a burning program and having the cdburning would be enough...so no I have not configured anything by hand
[04:59] <Hobbsee> Tingle: no problem
[04:59] <rumba> soundray:what can i do ?
[04:59] <soundray> rumba: have you found vdr-wiki yet?
[04:59] <rumba> no
[05:00] <rumba> can u link me please
[05:00] <ahmad> any good p2p linux progams?
[05:00] <gnomefreak> brb in the middle of breaking something i hope
[05:00] <matthew_w> Oh lord, it's just hopeless!
[05:00] <soundray> rumba: for DVB, it's best to use a specialized distribution, such as c't-VDR or Kanotix-vdr
[05:00] <matthew_w> Why is PPPOE and pon dsl-provider such a moody jerk :(
[05:00] <gnomefreak> !limewire
[05:00] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[05:00] <jeld> felipe__, well, even Windows burners will ask you questions about which drive is the burner and which drive is not, so don't fuss, just tell me what sort of burner you have
[05:00] <ahmad> !java
[05:00] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:01] <ahmad> sigh
[05:01] <ahmad> java never works for me
[05:01] <ahmad> lemme try again today
[05:01] <soundray> rumba, http://www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/
[05:01] <gnomefreak> ahmad: are you on breezy or dapper?
[05:01] <cdubya> ahmad, you followed the wiki docs verbatim?
[05:01] <felipe__> jeld, an LG cd burner, I don't know which model though
[05:01] <rumba> thanks soundray
[05:01] <rumba> so i shall install it first then plug in the card?
[05:02] <jeld> felipe__, ATAPI or SCSI?
[05:02] <ahmad> cdubya, : I donnt knwo
[05:02] <soundray> rumba: Kanotix-vdr is a live CD, so you could boot it with the card in place.
[05:02] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : Im on breezy
[05:02] <cdubya> ahmad, what have you done with java so far?
[05:02] <rumba> i c
[05:02] <jeld> felipe__, also is it the only optical drive on the system?
[05:02] <soundray> rumba: sometimes it helps to use a different PCI slot btw -- black magic.
[05:02] <ahmad> cdubya, : I wanna isntall it but im liek a nob at compilin and installing
[05:02] <gnomefreak> !+javadebs
[05:02] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:02] <felipe__> jeld, ATAPI, and yes is the only optical drive
[05:03] <rumba> so if i need to install ubunto running tiwnhan support what can i do ?
[05:03] <ahmad> cdubya, : I still need to install this graphics driver, but im thinkin of going back to windows lol. I totally dont wanna do that, but i guess a 14 year old cant live on linux.
[05:03] <cdubya> ahmad, sure you could. :)
[05:03] <cdubya> ahmad, plenty of k-12 linux installs....heh
[05:03] <rumba> i'll try that soundray
[05:03] <cdubya> ahmad, so it's working....:)
[05:04] <ahmad> cdubya, : Its been 4 days
[05:04] <ahmad> cdubya, : I wanna last a month least :S, but first i need java and i cna live cuz music is my life
[05:04] <jeld> felipe__, OK, do you by a chance know what IDE controller it is sitting on and weather it is slave or master?
[05:04] <felipe__> jeld, I'm trying to post the output of sudo cdrecord -scanbus, but the pastebin page wont open, I thing is my connection
[05:04] <ahmad> cdubya: I have Amule but its craip!
[05:04] <ahmad> lol
[05:04] <rumba> soundray: thanks
[05:05] <cdubya> ahmad, if you want, I can try to help....you can pm me here if you want to do it that way
[05:05] <jeld> felipe__, thats OK, do you have a CD (not a recordale, just a data CD)
[05:05] <gnomefreak> ahmad: did you run sudo update-alternatives --config java?
[05:05] <ahmad> no
[05:05] <felipe__> jeld, I don't know for sure, but I guess that it is in the same IDE than the hard drive and I bet the dc burners is the slave
[05:05] <ahmad> wait
[05:05] <gnomefreak> and choose the java you want ubuntu to use
[05:05] <ahmad> im gunna follow instructons one more time and it dont work, i come here for back up ;P
[05:05] <gnomefreak> ahmad: it will be listed as java 1.5 or 5.0
[05:05] <felipe__> jeld, I have one that already has data but it is multisesion
[05:06] <rumba> soundray: i Have another question
[05:06] <jeld> felipe__, just put some CD into the drive, make sure it mounts (don't remember how to do that under KDE) and type "mount" in konsole, this will show you what the device name for the drive is, something like /dev/hdc or /dev/hdb
[05:07] <jeld> felipe__, it is going to be the one without a number after it
[05:07] <felipe__> jeld, ok
[05:07] <BeenWorkingYOu> I have 2 questions, one of them: How do I install Firefox extensions?
[05:07] <jeld> felipe__, like /dev/hda1 is a partition on your hard drive and /dev/hdc is your burner (hopefully)
[05:07] <BeenWorkingYOu> And I cant get firestarter to work, it says the package isn't available. Any ideas?
[05:08] <cdubya> BeenWorkingYou, #1, inside Firefox
[05:08] <jeld> felipe__, then you need to go to the arson config and make sure that it is using that device name as the burner and not something silly like /dev/cdwriter
[05:08] <cdubya> BeenWorkingYou, #2 sudo apt-get install firestarter
[05:08] <BeenWorkingYOu> alright, ty.
[05:08] <felipe__> jeld, Ok, gimme a sec I'll switch to gnome, I barely know how to use kde
[05:08] <jeld> felipe__, oh, are you by a chance using dapper or breezy
[05:08] <felipe__> jeld, Breezy :)
[05:08] <jeld> felipe__, good
[05:08] <felipe__> jeld, I'll use dapper when the final release is out
[05:09] <cdubya> BeenWorkingYOu, can't remember exactly which it's under in FF.....but it's pretty easy to find if you scan through the application menu
[05:09] <BeenWorkingYOu> Alright
[05:09] <BeenWorkingYOu> thank you.
[05:09] <dikdust> hi
[05:09] <cdubya> np
[05:09] <jeld> felipe__, cause there is a bit of a mixup with kernel capabilities in dapper, so you would need to load a couple of modules to enable burning stuff
[05:10] <Tingle> how can i start X? 'startx' gives me -bash: command not found
[05:10] <dikdust> I have made a deb for ubuntu breezy of the last wine with the World of Warcraft patches.. Do you think anyone interests ?
[05:11] <cdubya> have a great day, all.
[05:12] <ahmad> oh man he left
[05:12] <ahmad> I needed hem
[05:12] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : Do you know bout java?
[05:13] <kcbanner> Where is the apt cache located?
[05:13] <gnomefreak> ahmad: what do you need to know about java?
[05:13] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : I was installing java and i got this error "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "java-package"
[05:13] <soundray> kcbanner: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:13] <kcbanner> soundray: :D thanks
[05:13] <martin__> #ubuntu-es
[05:13] <gnomefreak> ahmad: sudo apt-get install java-package
[05:13] <gnomefreak> ahmad: i think its in universe
[05:13] <ahmad> gnomefreak,  : k thanks
[05:13] <gnomefreak> !info java-package
[05:13] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[05:13] <gnomefreak> ahmad: its in multiverse
[05:14] <kcbanner> soundray: Say I download a third-party .deb, should I just throw it in there for safe keeping?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> make sure multiverse is enabled in you /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:14] <felipe__> Ok now Im on gnome
[05:14] <rumba> how do i know my kernal version ?
[05:14] <vineeth> rumba:uname -a
[05:14] <rumba> thx
[05:14] <Tingle> how can i start X? 'startx' gives me -bash: command not found
[05:14] <soundray> kcbanner: you could, but I keep a downloads directory under my $HOME for that purpose.
[05:15] <emmerday> Tingle: sudo startx
[05:15] <ssam> Tingle, do you have x installed?
[05:15] <_stefan> are the ubuntuforums down?
[05:15] <soundray> Tingle: you may have to install xinit
[05:15] <emmerday> _stefan: it seems, they are
[05:16] <kcbanner> soundray: normally I would...but it reminds me to much of the horror "My Documents" "My Downloads" uughghg
[05:16] <unkmar> I need help/suggestions/assistance OR an uzi to shoot the ubuntu CD into a few tiny pieces.
[05:16] <_stefan> ;(
[05:16] <Tingle> how can i check if xinint issnt already installed?
[05:16] <soundray> Tingle: dpkg -l xinit
[05:16] <Tingle> s/xinint/xinit/
[05:16] <ssam> Tingle, did you do a normal ubuntu install? or a server install?
[05:16] <Tingle> soundray: thanks what does xinit actualy do?>
[05:17] <ssam> _stefan, they work for me
[05:17] <soundray> Tingle: the package provides the startx command.
[05:17] <felipe__> jeld, Ok, I'm in Gnome, I put a cdrom and the name says cdrom0
[05:17] <soundray> Tingle: if you don't have it, you have a very unusual installation and may hit other problems...
[05:17] <_stefan> oh they started working again for me too
[05:17] <Frogzoo> Tingle: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:17] <jeld> felipe__, no, that's just the name of the mount point, go to the terminal and type mount
[05:17] <unkmar> This is my deal, Gateway Model G6 350. In other words a 350Mhz PC with 128Mb of RAM install with more available if required.
[05:17] <Tingle> its a server install ;x
[05:18] <soundray> Tingle: okay. What do you plan to use this machine for?
[05:18] <ssam> Tingle, then you need to install X before you can run it :-)
[05:18] <_stefan> whats the command again that lets your change your java engines?
[05:18] <unkmar> I have a Floppy, CD-ROM, ZIP, and 10Gb HDD.  CD-boot is fine and I installed desktop.
[05:19] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : I need help, it said couldnt fine java-package, and java-package isnt in synaptic
[05:19] <unkmar> I had network access until I did the updates.
[05:19] <gnomefreak> ahmad: you didnt enable multiverse repo than
[05:19] <gnomefreak> !multiverse
[05:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:19] <ahmad> u dudb tgat tge itger day
[05:19] <gnomefreak> ahmad: follow the one for breezy
[05:19] <ahmad> i ddi that the other day
[05:19] <unkmar> I see that I have a IPV6 IP but not IPV4.  I had internet directly after install but not after the Updates installed last night.
[05:19] <ahmad> it says multiverse in the syanptic lists
[05:20] <gnomefreak> ahmad: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[05:20] <ahmad> whats that mean/
[05:20] <gnomefreak> ahmad: in terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:20] <unkmar> My current that is to reinstall fresh yet again.  And abandon ever updating for any reason ever.  (this sounds like a bad idea and I would never do such)
[05:20] <ahmad> you want me to paste this all in here/
[05:20] <soundray> unkmar: is your primary net connection through ethernet?
[05:20] <gnomefreak> ahmad: in pastebin
[05:21] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[05:21] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:21] <unkmar> soundray: yes
[05:21] <nzx> hey guys, how can i get a verbose boot screen, rather then the detault one ?
[05:21] <soundray> unkmar: what does it say when you run 'sudo ifup eth0'?
[05:21] <gnomefreak> ahmad: go to the first link there and paste it than put your name in name field than hit send and give me the next link you get
[05:22] <soundray> nzx: look at the options in /etc/default/rcS
[05:22] <unkmar> soundray: currently booting again. Will take several minutes because of 350Mhz :/
[05:22] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14179
[05:22] <gnomefreak> ahmad: ty brb
[05:23] <untung> hi there
[05:23] <nzx> soundray, thanks a lot
[05:23] <soundray> unkmar: installing all available RAM will help with that...
[05:23] <gnomefreak> ahmad: the first line of that file it says something like deb cdrom?
[05:23] <untung> Hi, how can we enable chinese character support in ubuntu?
[05:24] <vuk> untung: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:24] <johannes__> dooglus are you there
[05:24] <gnomefreak> ahmad: please put a # sign infront of the word deb in that line
[05:24] <unkmar> Is 128Mb not enough for the desktop?
[05:24] <soundray> unkmar: not for gnome, no
[05:24] <gnomefreak> unkmar: it should be fine
[05:24] <salkot> "Shut Down" used to turn the computer off, now it just logs me out. What happened??
[05:24] <gnomefreak> slow but fine
[05:24] <untung> VUK: do i use that command in terminal?
[05:25] <DianWei> Hey guys: I have a wee bitta problem, but it doesn't sound too difficult, but I can't figure it out; for some reason ubuntu keeps switching the default sound card from my sound card to my mobo, an even going into the settings and clicking on the button to set my sound card as default, it immediately changes it back to the mobo when I leave the setting window. Anyone have any clues?
[05:25] <felipe__> jeld, My computer crashed, the cdrom mount is hdb
[05:25] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : It wont let me edit it
[05:25] <gnomefreak> ahmad: let me know when you put the # in there and save than close
[05:25] <unkmar> soundray: I really want to use this strictly as a server.  Do you have better suggestions on type of install.
[05:25] <soundray> DianWei: could you disable onboard sound in the BIOS setup?
[05:25] <gnomefreak> ahmad: did you use gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:25] <ahmad> no
[05:25] <ahmad> ;p;
[05:25] <ahmad> lol
[05:25] <ahmad> here let me do that
[05:25] <vuk> untung: yo
[05:25] <gnomefreak> lol you need to  ;)
[05:26] <DianWei> Disable it in the bios, and that may make ubuntu not see it?
[05:26] <unkmar> soundray: http, ftp. possibly a few other things.
[05:26] <felipe__> jeld, Gnomebacker detects correctly de drive..
[05:26] <soundray> unkmar: did you enter 'server' at the boot: prompt of the install CD?
[05:26] <vOmpatti> mm, if i have 64 distro can i instal x368 apps ?
[05:26] <DianWei> I will try, thanks for the idea soundray.
[05:26] <Ng> vOmpatti: usually, yes
[05:26] <vOmpatti> kk
[05:27] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : Saved it
[05:27] <gnomefreak> ahmad: ok close it and run sudo apt-get update
[05:27] <gnomefreak> ahmad: let me know when its doen
[05:27] <gnomefreak> s/doen/done
[05:27] <ahmad> done
[05:28] <gnomefreak> ahmad: no errors?
[05:28] <ahmad> nope
[05:28] <ahmad> lol
[05:28] <gnomefreak> ahmad: sudo apt-get install java-package
[05:28] <danielblue> hello
[05:28] <ahmad> couldnt find java package
[05:29] <gnomefreak> ahmad: did you use the -
[05:29] <gnomefreak> java-package
[05:29] <Ng> and have you done an apt-get update first?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> Ng: he did ;)
[05:29] <emmerday> ahmad: apt-cache search java, and choose =)
[05:29] <ahmad> sudo apt-get install java-package
[05:29] <untung> hi. how can i check diskspace in Unbuntu?
[05:29] <ahmad> thats what i typed
[05:29] <soundray> untung: df (or df -h for sissies) ;)
[05:29] <Ng> untung: df -h will show you the used/available space for all mounted drives
[05:30] <unkmar> no, I didn't
[05:30] <untung> thanks guys! :-)
[05:30] <ahmad> emmerday, : WHat you mean? type that in terminal?
[05:30] <DianWei> Worked like a charm, thanks guys. :3
[05:30] <vOmpatti> gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
[05:30] <vOmpatti> What to do ? :s
[05:30] <emmerday> ahmad: yeah
[05:30] <soundray> unkmar: pity, cause if you had, it would have installed a minimal ubuntu for you...
[05:30] <ahmad> it said command not found
[05:30] <gnomefreak> emmerday: i dont think thats gonna help him
[05:30] <unkmar> soundray: I did the first time, had a terminal, had know idea what to do with it.
[05:30] <gnomefreak> ahmad: are you signed in as root?
[05:31] <ahmad> yes
[05:31] <gnomefreak> ahmad: well dont
[05:31] <soundray> unkmar: anyway, you could uninstall gnome and install a more lightweight desktop, e.g. XFCE
[05:31] <gnomefreak> ahmad: type exit
[05:31] <ahmad> i typed exit
[05:31] <serkan_calis> i cant install amarok since package manager says libmysqlclient couldnt install, i cant install either amrok or libmysqlclient5
[05:31] <gnomefreak> ahmad: now type sudo apt-get install java-package
[05:31] <PcGenie> Is there a channel for Ubuntu Developers on freenode?
[05:31] <soundray> unkmar: or you could do away with X entirely and operate it through the text console and bash
[05:31] <unkmar> I would prefer a more lightweight desktop.
[05:32] <ahmad> k smae thing couldnt find
[05:32] <ahmad> should i use root terminal? Thats what im using
[05:32] <gnomefreak> ahmad: do you see the $ or the # at end of host name?
[05:32] <Ng> ahmad: paste the exact command you are typing
[05:32] <unkmar> soundray: if I only new how to and, if I can get ethernet up again.
[05:32] <Ng> being root or not won't be the problem - running sudo as root is essentially a no-op
[05:32] <vOmpatti> soundray, gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
[05:32] <vOmpatti> What do i do ? :s
[05:32] <gnomefreak> if you have the # use apt-get install java-package
[05:32] <Ng> vOmpatti: what are you trying to do?
[05:33] <vOmpatti> Install wine
[05:33] <ahmad> I need a # at the end of my user name
[05:33] <soundray> unkmar: try 'sudo ifup eth0' and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if there is a lot
[05:33] <ahmad> root@taychouri:/home/ahmad# sudo apt-get install java-package
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ahmad: ok than type apt-get install java-packavge
[05:33] <gnomefreak> java-package even
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ahmad: leave off sudo
[05:34] <soundray> vOmpatti: what command are you entering?
[05:34] <ahmad> still didnt work :S
[05:34] <ahmad> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[05:34] <vOmpatti> tar -lettershere file
[05:34] <DaSkreec1> Anyone have issues with base not saving anything you do?
[05:34] <gnomefreak> ahmad: type apt-get update
[05:34] <Ng> vOmpatti: you can install wine from universe
[05:34] <DaSkreec1> Would Sun java mess up OO.o base?
[05:34] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: shouldnt
[05:34] <ahmad> k its done
[05:35] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: I'm helping a school and they have an IT exam coming u
[05:35] <vOmpatti> Ng universe ?
[05:35] <gnomefreak> ahmad: can you paste that full thing to pastebin please
[05:35] <ahmad> k
[05:35] <Ng> !tell vOmpatti about sources
[05:35] <DaSkreec1> Anytime they reopen Base all the work the students have done is gone
[05:35] <ahmad> !pastebin
[05:35] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:35] <Ng> vOmpatti: basically universe and multiverse are extra repositories of software for ubuntu
[05:35] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: thats sounds like the school not java
[05:36] <jeld> felipe__, :)
[05:36] <gnomefreak> the school i was at wouldnt keep any files we wrote
[05:36] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14180
[05:36] <felipe__> jeld, still I cant burn :'(
[05:36] <theverant> when installing Ubuntu, is it possible to software RAID just a portion of two HDDs, or do you have to use the whoel drive?
[05:36] <Speedator> hi, i want to download flight 7 but then there was a linkt to flight 8 but the mirror doesn't seem to work
[05:36] <jeld> felipe__, hmmm
[05:37] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: Ok :-) I wasn't blaming java Just trying to solve the problem
[05:37] <jeld> felipe__, any particular error?
[05:37] <unkmar> claims to be already configured.
[05:37] <DaSkreec1> All the Base files are a few bytes different in size
[05:37] <nathaniel> hi all, I have a problem
[05:37] <DaSkreec1> And o course all essentially empty
[05:37] <DaSkreec1> nathaniel: Wonderul! :)
[05:37] <gnomefreak> ahmad: ok gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and erase everything in that file except the wine repo if you still need it im gonna try something witha  new list
[05:38] <nathaniel> when i shutdown the monitor and open it again, and i cann't found the mouse
[05:38] <gnomefreak> ahmad: leave it open until you paste the new one in there
[05:38] <felipe__> jeld, I'll post in pastebin what gnomebaker throws
[05:38] <jeld> felipe__, OK
[05:38] <gnomefreak> ahmad: let me know when your set for new list
[05:38] <ahmad> so wiat
[05:38] <ahmad> wwhere is the wine repo, which line?
[05:38] <soundray> nathaniel: how exactly do you "shutdown your monitor"?
[05:39] <Speedator> sorry had overseen the notice on the head
[05:39] <gnomefreak> ahmad: the last one but you can get rid of it if you dont need it
[05:39] <DaSkreec1> nathaniel: You mean when you press the power button on the monitor?
[05:39] <DaSkreec1> Or when it goes into standby?
[05:39] <reckless> hi
[05:39] <rpaz> hola
[05:39] <ahmad> deleted
[05:39] <ahmad> except deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt breezy main
[05:39] <rpaz> hola
[05:39] <reckless> someone is studying an engineering degree here?
[05:39] <serkan_calis> hey guys i cant install amarok with aptitude, or synaptic, or apt-get. It seems that there is a libmysqlclient5 problem, but i cant find it in my repos, how can find a a repo that includes it
[05:39] <unkmar> soundray:  claims to be already configured.
[05:40] <gnomefreak> ahmad: ok go to this like and near the bottom you will see white with typing in it paste that to that file
[05:40] <gnomefreak> ahmad: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[05:40] <DaSkreec1> serkan_calis: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:40] <teo> hi
[05:40] <Speedator> when will flight 8 be released? next 2-3 hours?
[05:40] <DaSkreec1> serkan_calis: htp://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:40] <DaSkreec1> serkan_calis: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:40] <gnomefreak> ahmad: than hit save close and run apt-get update again
[05:40] <vOmpatti> ehmm.
[05:40] <soundray> unkmar: okay, now try 'sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0', note any output and test the network after that.
[05:40] <vOmpatti> Winelib and winelib-dev
[05:41] <rpaz> ponlo en espaosl
[05:41] <vOmpatti> Only results, and i cant install them
[05:41] <gnomefreak> rpaz: #ubuntu-es
[05:41] <reckless> someone is studying an engineering degree here?
[05:41] <ahmad> k done
[05:41] <gnomefreak> reckless: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:41] <teo> is Flight 7 stable enough for using on a desktop system??
[05:41] <gnomefreak> ahmad: did you run update?
[05:41] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : yes
[05:41] <soundray> teo: officially no, but it works fine here.
[05:41] <unkmar> soundray: I am getting unknown hardware address of type 776
[05:41] <felipe__> jeld, why does burning requires root password?? that is wrong....
[05:41] <gnomefreak> teo: still not stable enough for production pcs
[05:42] <unkmar> soundray: I have only done the ifdown so far
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ahmad: now type apt-get install java-package
[05:42] <reckless> gnomefreak: hahaha i know, but i need to translate some marks, and technicism to english. For example, how do you name the degree end project?
[05:42] <ahmad> its done
[05:42] <ahmad> now waht
[05:42] <soundray> unkmar: does 'dmesg | grep eth' show any similar messages?
[05:42] <teo> no. it;s not a production pc. just my private desktop system
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ahmad: did it install it?
[05:42] <ahmad> yeh
[05:42] <Frogzoo> reckless: thesis perhaps?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ahmad: did you install java already?
[05:42] <ahmad> umm
[05:43] <ahmad> i dont know lol, i didnt succeed befor
[05:43] <J_P> hi all
[05:43] <kcbanner> Hmmmmm I did a apt-get install enlightenment. But I got 16.7!! I want e17!
[05:43] <teo> soundray: i know it's officially not stable :)
[05:43] <kcbanner> Is there no "unstable" branch?
[05:43] <tarzeau> hey J_P
[05:43] <unkmar> soundray: it also said there is already a pid file..
[05:43] <reckless> Frogzoo: i think that's when you have finished your degree
[05:43] <Ng> !tell kcbanner about e17
[05:43] <serkan_calis> DaSkreec1, there is libmysqlclient14 but not 15
[05:43] <tarzeau> J_P: since when did you change to ubuntu? no more debian for you?
[05:43] <ahmad> I ahve this file which i havent installed yet "jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin"
[05:43] <kcbanner> Mg: wow...prepared
[05:43] <Frogzoo> reckless: it differs by degree/country/institution
[05:44] <gnomefreak> ahmad: ok follow the instructions on the restricted site to install it
[05:44] <ahmad> k
[05:44] <gnomefreak> !restricted
[05:44] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:44] <ahmad> thanks
[05:44] <ahmad> you helped a lot man <3
[05:44] <gnomefreak> ahmad: when its done installing let me know theres another command or 2
[05:44] <niki> can anyone direct me to a good walkthrough to network two ubuntu computers together, in order to share files and printers?
[05:44] <DaSkreec1> kcbanner: try #ebuntu
[05:45] <unkmar> soundray: I get several timeouts
[05:45] <DaSkreec1> niki: http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10
[05:45] <Frogzoo> !tell niki about samba
[05:45] <unkmar> soundray: It is failing DHCP.  I might consider reseating the NIC.
[05:45] <niki> thanks DaSkreec1, Frogzoo
[05:46] <serkan_calis> aptitude shows the deps of amarok and there is libmysqlclient15 (>= 5.0.15-1) but there is no such a package in the repo or packages.ubuntu
[05:46] <jeld> felipe__, doesn't really, but it works better with some capabilities that require root
[05:46] <user2> wenas
[05:46] <DaSkreec1> niki: plus it's the top hit on google for Ubuntu (Samba | print server | network server)
[05:46] <gnomefreak> serkan_calis: dapper?
[05:46] <serkan_calis> yes
[05:46] <soundray> unkmar: strange, it shouldn't even try DHCP if the interface is not there...
[05:46] <niki> DaSkreec1, checking it out now, thanks :D:D
[05:46] <gnomefreak> serkan_calis: that lib changed names
[05:46] <soundray> unkmar: do you know what make/model of NIC you have?
[05:46] <serkan_calis> now what is the name gnomefreak
[05:47] <gnomefreak> iirc its libmysqlclient15off but let me check on that
[05:47] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : Do i need to do this command as well "fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin"? Or is this the last one "sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package java-common"
[05:47] <eduedix> hi. can anyone help me to configure the keymaps thing ? i cant typer turkish characters in x.
[05:47] <gnomefreak> yes
[05:47] <ahmad> so i have to do taht one?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> serkan_calis: libmysqlclient15off
[05:47] <morena> wenas
[05:48] <gnomefreak> ahmad: the last one first the 1st one last
[05:48] <ahmad> yeh
[05:48] <serkan_calis> gnomefreak, ok i have this package but amarok still want 15 not 15off
[05:48] <Karim> Hey everyone, how are you guys today?
[05:48] <ahmad> when i enter it
[05:48] <ahmad> this happens
[05:48] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[05:48] <ahmad> which will allow no damage to be done to your system files and
[05:48] <ahmad> still permit the Java distribution to successfully extract.
[05:48] <ahmad> Aborting.
[05:48] <soundray> eduedix: right click on the panel, choose Add to panel, select Keyboard indicator from utilities and add. Configure this with a right click.
[05:48] <gnomefreak> serkan_calis: check with #kubuntu there maybe an issue with amarok
[05:49] <serkan_calis> ok gnomefreak
[05:49] <Versed> ?
[05:49] <soundray> Karim: dapper! ;)
[05:49] <gnomefreak> ahmad: ok get rid of the bin file for java
[05:49] <niki> DaSkreec1, according to these pages i'm reading, samba is to share with a windows computer?  i'm trying to share between two ubuntu computers...
[05:49] <gnomefreak> ahmad: we are gonna go easy way here
[05:49] <gnomefreak> !+javadebs
[05:49] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:49] <ahmad> k dleted it from my home file
[05:49] <gnomefreak> ^^ ahmad got here and download the java.deb file
[05:49] <DaSkreec1> niki: opensh-server should do you well
[05:50] <gnomefreak> s/got here/go there
[05:50] <vOmpatti> Argh, should i change to 32bit distrobution :f
[05:50] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : The breezy one right
[05:50] <gnomefreak> ahmad: once downloaded let me know
[05:50] <eduedix> soundray, do you really think it will work ? i mean xorg.conf and keymap settings.. because this gnome keyboard indicator is buggy
[05:50] <gnomefreak> ahmad: yes
[05:51] <DaSkreec1> Anyone setup CUPS?
[05:51] <gnomefreak> ahmad: you went to the giannaros link right?
[05:51] <soundray> eduedix: it works fine here. If you insist on doing it the xorg.conf way, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:51] <DaSkreec1> Under the Allow section can I do a XX.XX.*.*?
[05:51] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : the link is broken, the page isnt opening
[05:51] <gnomefreak> ahmad: go to the last link than it is seveas link
[05:51] <gnomefreak> ahmad: i will walk you trough this i hope
[05:52] <Karim> Hey guys, can anyone tell me about that project that was building a standard base for Debian-based distros to be built from?
[05:52] <niki> DaSkreec1, Did you mean: openssh-server  ?
[05:52] <Karim> does it still exist?
[05:52] <kcbanner> how to use a "unstable" repo?
[05:52] <DaSkreec1> niki: isn't that what I said?
[05:52] <gnomefreak> ahmad: hold on let me get you the direct link
[05:52] <MisterN> hi
[05:52] <soundray> Karim: there was an interview with Bruce Perens recently where he said why the project was kind of slow -- search for it on LWN.
[05:53] <niki> DaSkreec1, you said opensh-server (missing an s)
[05:53] <ahmad> gnomefreak,  : Ok
[05:53] <niki> DaSkreec1, just making sure, because google didn't find it, but it found openssh-server
[05:53] <DaSkreec1> niki: ah. Apologies and forgiveness begged
[05:53] <DaSkreec1> Google is smarter than I!
[05:53] <niki> DaSkreec1, lol, its all good, thanks for the tip :)
[05:53] <soundray> !ssh
[05:53] <ubotu> ssh is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[05:54] <Karim> thanks soundray :)
[05:54] <soundray> ...just thought I'd throw that in
[05:54] <eduedix> soundray, i have already the right configuration in xorg.conf .. but even though i do loadkeys for it, it loads the layout but still doesnt work.
[05:54] <DaSkreec1> !cups
[05:54] <ubotu> I heard cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[05:54] <DaSkreec1> Bah!
[05:55] <soundray> eduedix: loadkeys is for the console. Nothing to do with X.
[05:55] <gnomefreak> ahmad: type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   let me know when its open scroll all the way to bottom of that file and hit enter a few times
[05:55] <eduedix> soundray, ah ok.. "trq" ok as a layout in xorg.conf ?
[05:55] <soundray> eduedix: if you do as I say, you can configure xorg.conf easily for your national keyboard layout
[05:56] <ahmad> l
[05:56] <ahmad> k
[05:56] <soundray> eduedix: I don't know, but I would guess 'tr'
[05:56] <soundray> !tr
[05:56] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde.
[05:56] <gnomefreak> ahmad: add this repo without the " ok?
[05:56] <eduedix> soundray, danke ^^
[05:56] <gnomefreak> ahmad: deb [WWW]  http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas breezy-seveas all
[05:56] <gnomefreak> oops
[05:56] <soundray> eduedix: gern
[05:56] <unkmar> soundray: had to find a mirror, PCI card in bottom of machine.
[05:56] <gnomefreak> ahmad: wait a min
[05:56] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : all that cuz there si no "
[05:57] <gnomefreak> ahmad: wait
[05:57] <soundray> unkmar: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to put you through trouble like that...
[05:57] <ahmad> k
[05:57] <soundray> eduedix: how did you guess my native language?
[05:57] <gnomefreak> ahmad: "deb http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas breezy-seveas all"   add the line inside the " without the "
[05:57] <eduedix> soundray, nostra edu
[05:58] <DaSkreec1> nalioth: Lo
[05:58] <unkmar> soundray: digital, 21143-PD, DC1096B
[05:58] <gnomefreak> gm nalioth
[05:58] <DaSkreec1> Hi ompaul
[05:58] <nalioth> hi y'all
[05:58] <ompaul> DaSkreec1, afternoon
[05:58] <unkmar> soundray: Those are the numbers I got of the chip on the card.
[05:58] <ompaul> 'lo nalioth
[05:58] <gnomefreak> ahmad: after you add that save and click close
[05:58] <soundray> unkmar, okay, you need the tulip module for that I think. Is it loaded?
[05:58] <ahmad> saved
[05:58] <soundray> unkmar 'lsmod | grep tulip'
[05:58] <gnomefreak> ahmad: than run apt-get update again you will get gpg errors dont worry about them right now
[05:59] <unkmar> soundray: it returned tulip with some #, I assume to be the PID
[05:59] <ahmad> k done
[06:00] <soundray> unkmar: so at least it still knows how to work with your card in principle. The timeouts are a worry, though...
[06:00] <Karim> okay nevermind...lol...I'm toooooooo lazy to find the article.. :P
[06:00] <gnomefreak> ahmad: ok now open synaptic and click search in the search box type java and scroll down after the java search loads to the sun java area
[06:00] <unkmar> soundray: the card could theoritically be bad.
[06:00] <Karim> TY for the info tho soundray, it is GREATLY appreciated
[06:00] <Karim> :)
[06:00] <unkmar> soundray: it isn't new. Just one of those I had laying around.
[06:00] <estela> gfdhg
[06:00] <ahmad> which one?
[06:00] <ahmad> i choose
[06:00] <soundray> unkmar: a bad card is bad...
[06:01] <unkmar> soundray: strange that it was working previously. :/
[06:01] <soundray> Karim: you are contradicting yourself.
[06:01] <gnomefreak> ahmad: j2re 5?
[06:01] <Karim> yes, and no
[06:01] <Karim> :)
[06:01] <gnomefreak> ahmad: off hand i dont remember what ones there are
[06:01] <papo> 'morning.
[06:01] <soundray> unkmar: it could be that the driver has been changed and has become less fault-tolerant.
[06:01] <ahmad> j2re 1.4
[06:01] <gnomefreak> ahmad: you want the one that says sun java
[06:01] <sb122> hello
[06:01] <gnomefreak> it will say sun
[06:01] <KenSentMe> Someone here got a Hauppauge WinTV PVR 150 working in Ubuntu?
[06:01] <Karim> (Just trying to see if people in here laugh :) )
[06:02] <gnomefreak> ahmad: down in the s's
[06:02] <sb122> hello
[06:02] <ahmad> 1.4 or 1.5
[06:02] <unkmar> soundray: fault tolerant, as in detects timing issues and giving up?
[06:02] <gnomefreak> 1.5
[06:02] <Karim> I'm thinkin about becoming the Carlos Mencia of Geeks ya know...lol
[06:02] <sexcopter8000m> what's a good archive format for shrinking videos?
[06:02] <soundray> unkmar: yeah. I don't want to sound like I know what I'm talking about, though ;)
[06:02] <feg> !expert
[06:02] <ubotu> No working sudo after expert install? as root: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin
[06:03] <gnomefreak> ahmad: when its done installing let me know ok?
[06:03] <soundray> sexcopter8000m: matroska
[06:03] <sb122> every body
[06:03] <ahmad> ewwwww where is this server located?
[06:03] <unkmar> soundray: I'll try another card. I have several to work from. http://www.unkmar.com/
[06:03] <ahmad> 50 kbps
[06:03] <gnomefreak> ahmad: lol i dont remember where he is
[06:03] <almenfors> hi ppl. i got some starters questions here.. (or newb)  ^^
[06:03] <gnomefreak> ahmad: i get 26kps with dsl so be glad its that high
[06:03] <Zoroaster> I am lost, someone please help
[06:03] <ahmad> lol
[06:03] <ahmad> i usually get 550 kbps
[06:04] <soundray> unkmar: wow, 55$/h ;)
[06:04] <sexcopter8000m> soundray, what on earth is matroska?? i mean zip versus gzip versus bzip2 etc
[06:04] <Karim> almenfors: go ahead
[06:04] <DaSkreec1> soundray: Own3d!
[06:04] <Archville> Hi.
[06:04] <almenfors> Ive just installed ubuntu here, first time on a linux platform and having trouble identifying my usb mouse. any pointers that could be of help?
[06:04] <soundray> sexcopter8000m: there is no point zipping up an encoded video, because they are maximally compressed already if the codec is worth anything.
[06:04] <Karim> hmmm
[06:05] <Karim> what version?
[06:05] <almenfors> 5.10
[06:05] <Karim> Breezy? Dapper?
[06:05] <Karim> oh ok
[06:05] <Karim> hang on
[06:05] <Karim> did you run all the updates?
[06:05] <soundray> sexcopter8000m: matroska and theora are the video equivalents of ogg and vorbis
[06:05] <soundray> see also...
[06:05] <soundray> !freeformats
[06:05] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[06:05] <Karim> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:05] <almenfors> well i just managed to get my wireless network to start so no.hehe
[06:06] <humbolt> cannot install new network printers
[06:06] <Karim> okay, well then run the updates, because i JUST installed breezy on this machine yesterday, and one of the FIRST things to be updated was the kernel
[06:06] <almenfors> btw. how do i get the updates? *scratches his head*
[06:06] <Karim> the following commands
[06:06] <gnomefreak> almenfors: Karim just said that
[06:06] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:06] <ahmad> karim
[06:06] <ahmad> where are you from?
[06:06] <ahmad> lol
[06:07] <Karim> Me, Chicago
[06:07] <Karim> :)
[06:07] <ahmad> any heritage?
[06:07] <Karim> sudo apt-get update
[06:07] <Karim> yepp Iranian, Indian, British, German, Cherokee
[06:07] <ahmad> Your name sounds middle eastern
[06:07] <DaSkreec1> soundray: Not as I understand it
[06:07] <Karim> indeed it does ahmad
[06:07] <Karim> :)
[06:07] <Archville> Hello, I have some icons on the Gnome menu i don't want to be there. I see an option called "Add and remove" but my new icons don't appear there.  How do i remove them ?
[06:07] <ahmad> See i knew it
[06:07] <ahmad> Im lebanese
[06:07] <unkmar> soundray: yeah, $70 when onsite, but this is my personal system I am working on.
[06:07] <Karim> so are you IN lebanon?
[06:08] <ahmad> nope, lol! I wish. I love lebanon. Im in canada
[06:08] <soundray> DaSkreec1: did I get the wrong end of the stick?
[06:08] <DaSkreec1> matroska is like ogg but not in collusion with the Ogg people
[06:08] <unkmar> soundray: or is that $75, anyhow, I don't do linux for customers.  I don't feel comfortable with it.
[06:08] <Karim> lol ok
[06:08] <DaSkreec1> I
[06:08] <Karim> i was in india last year...they have CRAPPY Broadband
[06:08] <almenfors> wohaa.. found "update manager" or something under system. but im all up to date
[06:08] <ahmad> lol. Lebanon is 56k
[06:08] <DaSkreec1> it's a Container format but ogg is the intended format for vorbis and theora
[06:08] <ahmad> they call that lxury
[06:08] <ahmad> lol, im like..
[06:08] <Karim> ok almenfors
[06:08] <Karim> click "Check" in the update manager
[06:09] <soundray> ahmad, Karim, please ask yourselves if you are still on topic
[06:09] <almenfors> hang on
[06:09] <Karim> no soundray, I think we might have deviated just a LITTLE bit :P
[06:09] <almenfors> *hate this mousepad*
[06:09] <gnulinux> hi
[06:10] <Karim> ok.....I'm tryin ma best here soundray....if nothing, you should laugh out of courtesy :P
[06:10] <soundray> almenfors: cat /dev/null >mousepad
[06:10] <ahmad> lawl!:D I knew someone would say that :D
[06:10] <DaSkreec1>  How do I find out what the password is for cups?
[06:10] <DaSkreec1> I turned on cups and the admin console but I need a password
[06:10] <shadox> Hi all
[06:10] <ahmad> Ubuntu talk only now :D promise
[06:10] <soundray> shadox: not you again ;)
[06:10] <shadox> Anyone speack french here ?
[06:10] <soundray> !fr
[06:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:10] <outlawcrook> try the password u use to log in with
[06:10] <shadox> thx :)
[06:10] <ahmad> Bonjour mes amis !
[06:11] <DaSkreec1> outlawcrook: You'd think huh?
[06:11] <DaSkreec1> :)
[06:11] <Karim> oh man, i have this UBER funny "US Army Reserve" ad
[06:11] <Karim> oh sorry...nm
[06:11] <outlawcrook> :)
[06:11] <Karim> shhh... :P
[06:11] <ahmad> shadox je parle le francais.
[06:11] <shadox> J'ai besoin d'aide stp :x
[06:11] <Karim> Como televu francias?
[06:11] <ahmad> He needs help with STP
[06:12] <Frogzoo> mes amis - anglais ici svp
[06:12] <Karim> or something to that effect
[06:12] <ahmad> shadox , tout les mondes parle le anglais
[06:12] <gnomefreak> english please
[06:12] <shadox> i know i know...
[06:12] <shadox> Sprry
[06:12] <shadox> sorry *
[06:12] <ahmad> I told him in french
[06:12] <ahmad> lol
[06:12] <Karim> Ok everyone, IMPORTANT Question....
[06:12] <shadox> I've start with ubundu and i have some problem...
[06:13] <humbolt> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Generic-PCL_6_PCL_XL_Printer,pxlcolor] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[06:13] <humbolt> what is wrong
[06:13] <Karim> If you speak 2 languages you are Bi-lingual, and if you speak 3 languages you are Tri-Lingual, what are you if you can speak ONLY ONE Language?
[06:13] <soundray> Karim: dumb
[06:13] <ahmad> ooooooooooooo
[06:13] <ahmad> lol
[06:13] <gnomefreak> Karim: lucky?
[06:13] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:13] <Karim> American :)
[06:13] <Karim> lol
[06:13] <ahmad> im tri-lingual
[06:13] <ahmad> :d
[06:13] <gnomefreak> ahmad: is it done installing?
[06:13] <ahmad> :D
[06:13] <ahmad> no
[06:13] <DaSkreec1> outlawcrook: Ha Got it!
[06:13] <ahmad> lol
[06:13] <gnomefreak> ok
[06:13] <ahmad> 5 mins
[06:13] <soundray> Karim: oh, sorry, that was for no language at all.
[06:13] <Frogzoo> shadox: have you installed bridge-utils?
[06:14] <outlawcrook> cool
[06:14] <Karim> no no soundray, we have "Ebonics" here ya know
[06:14] <jag> hi is there anybody here ho knows much about alsa and jack?
[06:14] <Karim> In the Skizza
[06:14] <Karim> :P
[06:14] <defcon8> how do i list the files of a package?
[06:14] <DaSkreec1> outlawcrook: involves shadow
[06:14] <Karim> i used to speak 4 languages ahmad, but i havent spoken Arabic in like 7 years .. lol
[06:14] <Karim> Hell, i can BARELY still read in arabic
[06:15] <Frogzoo> !alsa
[06:15] <ubotu> [alsa]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[06:15] <rosen> hmm the ubuntuforum seems pretty dodgy... takes a looong time to load into the browser!
[06:15] <unkmar> soundray: dirty contact, same card.
[06:15] <Frogzoo> !jack
[06:15] <defcon8> anyone?
[06:15] <ubotu> Frogzoo: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:15] <ahmad> karim : I love arabic. I speak so perfectly, I cna write too. If onyli can get arabic support for linux, like so i can type in arbaic, do you know how/
[06:15] <jag> k, thx!
[06:15] <soundray> unkmar: sorted then?
[06:15] <unkmar> soundray: I noticed a gummy substance on the end of the card edge.
[06:15] <Karim> Buy a Keyboard from Dubai
[06:15] <defcon8> how do i list the files of a package?
[06:15] <soundray> unkmar: psychoreactive slime?
[06:15] <Frogzoo> jag: I prefer esd, as it allows multiple sound sources, btw
[06:15] <ahmad> I have an arabic keyboard, but i need arabic support for ubuntu, so i can siwtch form english to arabic
[06:15] <Karim> a friend of mine had bought a Dual Language one from there, and when he install MDK it would ONLY let him type in arabic .. lol
[06:16] <unkmar> soundray: I wasn't getting link lights on the card b4, and was getting them at the hub.
[06:16] <defcon8> for godness sake
[06:16] <defcon8> doesn't anyone know?
[06:16] <KenSentMe> Is there a way to undo make install?
[06:16] <unkmar> soundray: now I get them on the card. I'll see in a moment if all is well.
[06:16] <almenfors> Arghhhhhhhhh there...downloading....now installing 36 updates =P
[06:16] <Ng> defcon8: this is a very busy channel, please don't be impatient
[06:16] <soundray> defcon8: since you're so good at swearing, dpkg -L packagename
[06:16] <Frogzoo> defcon8: dpkg -L pkg
[06:16] <Karim> told ya so almenfors :)
[06:16] <Ng> defcon8: the answer is "dpkg -L packagename"
[06:16] <defcon8> swearing? who swore
[06:16] <defcon8> thank you Ng
[06:16] <brasko> how do I figure out what ubuntu relase I'm using?
[06:16] <ahmad> yeah! Swearing is bad.
[06:17] <almenfors> correction........not 36..make that 1 6 6 updates lol
[06:17] <defcon8> brasko, wtf?
[06:17] <soundray> defcon8: invoking deities, I mean.
[06:17] <gnomefreak> brasko: lsb_release -a
[06:17] <Frogzoo> brasko: lsb_release -a
[06:17] <DaSkreec1> brasko: cat /etc/issue
[06:17] <defcon8> i said goodness
[06:17] <ahmad> search google for " I like Big Bibles"
[06:17] <defcon8> that did not imply that i am theistic
[06:17] <gnomefreak> defcon8: no you didnt
[06:17] <brasko> OK, I'm using breezy
[06:17] <Karim> okay well guys, time for a smoke, and F*&^ dont you guys know that you shouldnt f*&^ing swear :P
[06:17] <soundray> defcon8: no you didn;t ;)
[06:17] <Ng> it was obviously a typo
[06:17] <ramvi> I'm dualbooting breezy and xp. I start up xp (with novell)  once and the next time I reboot I never get to grub. It only boots over and over. what do I do?
[06:17] <Ng> further discussion about it is irrelevant
[06:17] <brasko> how do I determine if a new release is available?
[06:17] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : # mins till the j2re 1.5
[06:17] <vocious> Can i ask a newbie question ?
[06:17] <Ng> vocious: yes
[06:17] <defcon8> i expressed a sentence that contained the word "goodness"
[06:17] <Karim> vocious, no dont type rm -rf /*
[06:18] <Karim> :)
[06:18] <gnomefreak> defcon8: you typoed and said godness
[06:18] <soundray> defcon8: you are welcome btw
[06:18] <Frogzoo> vocious: you just did ;)
[06:18] <sneex> how can I correct an sudoers file?
[06:18] <sneex> dapper seems to have locked me out
[06:18] <Karim> sneex...spellcheck?
[06:18] <Frogzoo> sneex: boot to recovery mode
[06:18] <sneex> kk
[06:18] <unkmar> soundray: if all is well, I'd like to get help with removing gnome and putting something a lightweight on there. I plan to primarily access X by remote through VNC.
[06:18] <vocious> I have a problem, I cant seem to make my PCI sound card default. Is there any way to force it to be default ? thanks
[06:18] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : Its isntalling
[06:18] <Karim> i ALWAYS do a `sudo passwd` after installing JUST IN CASE
[06:19] <brasko> is Breezy the latest stable release?
[06:19] <Ng> sneex: firstly, never edit the sudoers file directly, secondly, see this: http://pastebin.com/722728
[06:19] <gnomefreak> ahmad: ok when its done we have another command or 2 to use
[06:19] <jag> Frogzoo: I'm not sure what to use since I'm pretty new with Linux, im trying to set up a studio... do u know anything about that kind of stuff?
[06:19] <Frogzoo> brasko: yes
[06:19] <gnomefreak> brasko: yes
[06:19] <Ng> sneex: you'll need to put the file back to that in recovery mode
[06:19] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : Its done
[06:19] <brasko> and is there a mailing list I can sign up for?
[06:19] <brasko> to find out the next stable release when it's ready?
[06:19] <gnomefreak> ahmad: ok are you still #
[06:19] <gnomefreak> brasko: june 1
[06:19] <ahmad> umm one sc
[06:19] <ahmad> yes
[06:19] <brasko> will that go to ubuntu-announce@lists.ubuntu.com?
[06:19] <ahmad> ahmad#
[06:20] <Karim> yes, but Dapper is oh so nice, i have it on my lappy :)
[06:20] <gnomefreak> ahmad: type update-alternatives --config java
[06:20] <gnulinux> hi
[06:20] <soundray> unkmar: you can remove gnome by running 'apt-get --purge remove' on a core library. Apt will do the rest for you. Then you could for example install xubuntu-desktop.
[06:20] <ahmad> what number
[06:20] <Frogzoo> jag: not sure - you'd best talk to a sound pro
[06:20] <almenfors> hmm..maby this will fix my intel gfx card drv as well.. i hope ^^
[06:20] <brasko> thanks all
[06:20] <gnomefreak> ahmad: what number is java 1.5 or 5.0?
[06:20] <Karim> well....talk to ya guys a lil later, for now, i must smoketh the nicotene goodness
[06:20] <baggie> hi i got a bit of a problem... just installed ubuntu, total linux noob.. tried to change the accounts that could use sudo through the graphical system >>user and groups.  Turned off sudo in the current user, turned it on in another.  turned off in current accout, as expected, but hasn't fully turned on the the other in that it askes for you password, acceps it then doesnt do what you asked.... Am I screwed???
[06:20] <ahmad> 1.5 sun? is 3
[06:20] <defcon8> gnomefreak, they are both the same?
[06:20] <defcon8> -?
[06:21] <gnomefreak> ahmad: than type 3 and enter
[06:21] <Frogzoo> jag: or just try alsa/esd & see which you like best
[06:21] <gnomefreak> defcon8: yes
[06:21] <Frogzoo> !esd
[06:21] <soundray> unkmar: also consider only running X clients on the machine, displaying remotely, then you don't need a desktop at all.
[06:21] <gnomefreak> defcon8: i dont remember how its worded in update-alternatives
[06:21] <sneex> ty Ng re:  http://pastebin.com/722728
[06:21] <soundray> unkmar: ie., ssh -X servername xlogo
[06:21] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : Using `/usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java' to provide `java'.
[06:21] <Karim> almenfors: good luck, lemme know if the updates did the trick ;)
[06:21] <Frogzoo> !tell jag about esd
[06:21] <jag> yeah i will!
[06:21] <Ng> baggie: reboot into recovery mode and run "adduser someusername admin" - users in the admin group are allowed to use sudo
[06:21] <gnomefreak> ahmad: now run java --version
[06:21] <gnomefreak> ahmad: let me know the outptu
[06:21] <baggie> ta ng
[06:21] <ahmad> type run ..
[06:21] <gnomefreak> ahmad: no
[06:21] <gnulinux> hi
[06:21] <vocious> No solution to my problem ? :(
[06:21] <ps7jv> ola
[06:21] <gnomefreak> type java --version
[06:22] <gnulinux> in SPANISH please
[06:22] <Ng> vocious: System->Preferences->Sound should let you pick a default sound card I think
[06:22] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : Unrecognized option: --version
[06:22] <gnomefreak> gnulinux: #ubuntu-es
[06:22] <gnulinux> in SPANISH please
[06:22] <unkmar> soundray: will my remote systems need to be linux?
[06:22] <soundray> vocious: please be patient and repeat your question after a while if necessary
[06:22] <gnomefreak> ahmad: sorry try java -version
[06:22] <gnulinux> in SPANISH please
[06:22] <gnulinux> in SPANISH please
[06:22] <Ng> gnulinux: stop that
[06:22] <gnulinux> in SPANISH please
[06:22] <ps7jv> que tal
[06:22] <unkmar> soundray: or, are we talking VNC connections.
[06:22] <Ng> !es
[06:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:22] <ramvi> I'm dualbooting breezy and xp. I start up xp (with novell)  once and the next time I reboot I never get to grub. It only boots over and over. what do I do?
[06:22] <gnomefreak> gnulinux: #ubuntu-es
[06:22] <soundray> unkmar: no, you can have an X server on Windows or Mac OS
[06:23] <ahmad> what do you need to knwo
[06:23] <soundray> unkmar: for VNC, you'd need something like xfce still
[06:23] <vocious> Ng: Did that and rebooted but still dont get any sound. : \
[06:23] <gnomefreak> ahmad: what did it say
[06:23] <ahmad> java version "1.5.0_06"
[06:23] <ahmad> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[06:23] <ahmad> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
[06:23] <jag> ive get this error msg when i try to start jack: 18:11:36.254 Could not open ALSA sequencer as a client. MIDI patchbay will be not available.
[06:23] <jag> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory. does anybody know what to do?
[06:23] <gnomefreak> ahmad: java is installed
[06:23] <unkmar> soundray: yeah, I kind of like xfce
[06:23] <ahmad> really!!!
[06:23] <gnomefreak> ahmad: you are done with that ateast
[06:23] <ahmad> OMG!
[06:23] <ahmad> :D
[06:23] <gnomefreak> ahmad: yes
[06:23] <ahmad> FINALL!
[06:23] <cookie> when i try to install irssi i get the following msg could someone help me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14181
[06:23] <ahmad> OMG
[06:23] <ahmad> GNOME
[06:23] <soundray> vocious: perhaps you can disable the unwanted soundcard in the bios setup.
[06:24] <gnomefreak> cookie: sudo apt-get install irssi-text
[06:24] <vocious> soundray: ok thanks, il try. not sure what im doing but il give it a shot anyways. thanks alot
[06:24] <gnomefreak> cookie: irssi is normally installed by default
[06:24] <gnomefreak> cookie: type irssi at terminal it should load
[06:24] <cookie> gnomefreak: its a server install
[06:24] <ahmad> !limeiwre
[06:24] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ahmad
[06:24] <ahmad> !limewire
[06:24] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[06:24] <gnomefreak> cookie: ah ok yea install irssi-text
[06:25] <cookie> gnomefreak: thanks alot!
[06:25] <gnomefreak> cookie: yw
[06:25] <Frogzoo> !frostwire
[06:25] <ubotu> somebody said frostwire was a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo
[06:25] <ramonsa> Can I ask a support question?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> ramonsa: yes
[06:26] <Frogzoo> ramonsa: any question, but that one
[06:26] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:26] <almenfors> ok...installed all updates. now next step?  =)
[06:26] <yggdrasil> is anyone here familiar witht the gmailfs thing... id like to add it to my fstab
[06:26] <soundray> ramonsa, it depends. Do you have a Paypal account?
[06:26] <soundray> ramonsa: just kidding.
[06:27] <Frogzoo> !gmailfs
[06:27] <ahmad> Im using the XMMS media player, how can i set it to import music automatically when it is addedd
[06:27] <ubotu> Frogzoo: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:27] <unkmar> soundray: I'm not sure what a core app for gnome would be.
[06:27] <gnomefreak> !gmailfs
[06:27] <Frogzoo> !gmail
[06:27] <gnomefreak> !gmailf
[06:27] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:27] <ramonsa> Ocassionally my display image gets blkurred when I use certain programs (kdissert, any software dealing with pdf and even firefox. What is going on?
[06:27] <gnomefreak> yuck
[06:27] <soundray> unkmar, try metacity
[06:27] <soundray> unkmar: ie. sudo apt-get --purge remove metacity
[06:28] <yggdrasil> !gmailfs
[06:28] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, yggdrasil
[06:28] <gnomefreak> theres a wiki on it
[06:28] <yggdrasil> yea
[06:28] <gnomefreak> i just cant get there atm
[06:28] <yggdrasil> well im trying to follow it but its not workin...
[06:28] <yggdrasil> strange
[06:28] <almenfors> he still puts my usb mouse as unknown device
[06:29] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil: maybe it was written for breezy not dapper?
[06:29] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : Whats the best media Player for ubuntu, and that adds files automatically, when noticed in the msuic fodler/
[06:29] <yggdrasil> im in brezzy ?
[06:29] <yggdrasil> ...
[06:29] <gnomefreak> oh
[06:29] <vocious> soundray: Worked perfectly :) Thanks, appriciate the help.
[06:29] <yggdrasil> maybe it was written for dapper ?
[06:29] <yggdrasil> haha
[06:29] <gnomefreak> ahmad: i dont know i dont do music much
[06:29] <graveson> can someone help me redefine my keyboard shorcuts
[06:29] <ahmad> hm
[06:29] <ahmad> k
[06:29] <soundray> ramonsa: does it go back to normal when you exit the program that caused it?
[06:30] <unkmar> soundray: that appears to be working.
[06:30] <graveson> ahmad:look at amarok it can scan folders
[06:30] <unkmar> I'm in a VGA terminal, which feels really odd, I'm use to the text-mode terminals.
[06:30] <almenfors> gnomefreak, any suggestions? *hate not knowing what to do*
[06:30] <soundray> unkmar: it should create plenty of space without removing X essentials.
[06:30] <ahmad> graveson, : i ahve tried ammorak everytime you start it up, like after the first time yo ahve to add all the fielsa gain
[06:30] <ahmad> files*
[06:31] <adam_> hi, please help me to update (change) the kernel, -386 to -686 (with apt-get)
[06:31] <ramonsa> soundray: No, I have to exit the session and come back to recover the image. I use AMD64 processor.
[06:31] <Frogzoo> yggdrasil: there may be a wiki entry: but this should do mostly: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/198
[06:31] <ahmad> Yo people im out, ! Thanks gnome, and everyone else :D
[06:31] <tristanmike> ahmad, in the settings there is a place to add your library directories, you add the top one, and then "rescan collection" that should work
[06:31] <ahmad> thanks for the last minute hel tristan
[06:31] <ahmad> :D
[06:31] <yggdrasil> frogzoo .. reading. thanks
[06:31] <ahmad> i will do that
[06:32] <NoUse> adam_ sudo apt-get instal llinux-686
[06:32] <soundray> ramonsa: is the blurring really related to opening an application, or does it happen spontaneously if you wait for a while?
[06:32] <adam_> NoUse, thanx
[06:33] <bolonia> hola
[06:33] <unkmar> soundray: I get several errors, something about couldn't stat source packages.
[06:33] <adam_> bolonia, hola
[06:34] <ramonsa> soundray It is not when I open the application but spontaneously when I use the program. ie. when i move the chart within kdissert, when i change pdf file pages, etc
[06:34] <soundray> unkmar: is it still removing packages though?
[06:34] <graveson> i lost usage of my ctrl-alt-f1 etc keyboard mappings -can anyone help me to fix this ?
[06:35] <rune> 1
[06:35] <tristanbob> Sun puts its weight behind Ubuntu Linux
[06:35] <tristanbob> http://www.itweek.co.uk/vnunet/news/2156209/sun-support-ubuntu-linux
[06:35] <soundray> ramonsa: this sounds like a hardware problem to me. Do you have a CRT display?
[06:35] <unkmar> soundray: I don't know if it removed any packages, never stated that it did, just lots of disk thrashing.
[06:35] <matthew_w> graveson; using ubuntu with gnome, it's system-preferences-keyboard shortcuts
[06:35] <soundray> graveson: use chvt as a workaround
[06:35] <matthew_w> Or I may be wrong! :D
[06:35] <DaSkreec1> tristanbob: Sun has weight?
[06:36] <tristanbob> DaSkreec1: 800-lb gorilla?
[06:36] <unkmar> it stated that it would remove 10.3Mb and that ...
[06:36] <Bart> am...im new to ubuntu...im using the firefox but im trying to open options but theres no selection of options in the tools menu as where it is normally...any idea
[06:36] <ramonsa> soundray I have a Sony trinitron display. It worked fine  with SuSE 9.3 (intel processor) and with Fedora 4 (same hardware as now).
[06:37] <unkmar> soundray: and (No such file or directory)
[06:37] <almenfors> anyone know how to get a UBS optical mouse to work? just installed all updates i could find.. now im clueless on what to do next lol
[06:37] <Egnygnok> when I try to click the advanced button on the package manager, it says "missing command to run"...any suggestions?
[06:37] <DaSkreec1> tristanbob: What has it gorrillaed lately?
[06:37] <tristanbob> DaSkreec1: my university's budget
[06:38] <soundray> ramonsa, I suggest you try different resolutions, and also look at this wiki page:
[06:38] <soundray> !fixres
[06:38] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:38] <DaSkreec1> It paid your university's budget?
[06:38] <Bart> wheres the options button in the tool menu thats normally there
[06:38] <DaSkreec1> That's pretty impressive actually
[06:38] <Bart> its mising
[06:39] <graveson> matthew_w: which action is it under keyboard shortcuts ?
[06:39] <soundray> unkmar: that's strange... perhaps you have to do a 'sudo apt-get update'. Also, try installing xubuntu-desktop first if it fits space-wise.
[06:39] <unkmar> soundray: cool, gnome failed to load and I ended up with a terminal.
[06:39] <ramonsa> soundray Many thanks for the tip. First time on IRC support and seems like great info.
[06:39] <unkmar> soundray: it suggested that I do the update thing.
[06:39] <unkmar> soundray: I've got the space.
[06:40] <Reon> Anyone here use dapper ? I need /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 can someone please dcc me (gcc4.0)
[06:40] <Bart> ive Ralink wireless 802.11g and its supported ....but how do you search for networks in ubuntu
[06:40] <unkmar> soundray: the update was fast.
[06:40] <soundray> unkmar: try that and see. I won't be around for a while, but try the other helpful people here...
[06:40] <ramonsa> ubotu I will look into that page too.
[06:40] <ubotu> ramonsa: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:40] <soundray> unkmar: that depends on your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:41] <unkmar> soundray: thanks for all your help.
[06:41] <soundray> unkmar: see you later.
[06:42] <DaSkreec1> When using a cups connection should the URI be a http:// or a ipp:// ?
[06:42] <almenfors> gnomefreak,  what was the command u told me before
[06:42] <gnomefreak> almenfors: what are you trying to do?
[06:43] <DaSkreec1> Argh. Who thought it would be funny to turn off admin of printers for Ubuntu :-(
[06:43] <max> halo
[06:43] <max> l
[06:44] <max> ;:_;:''`?`?=?=//%!""/(?-,.-,-.,.-,-:;:_;:_;_:;:_;:_;'*'*'`?=)(//&"!"$%&/=?($OI/&$&/:_;;:'*
[06:44] <almenfors> gnomefreak, still working on the mouse
[06:44] <ramonsa> soundray Thanks and will post info on results
[06:44] <anika> holan  espaol
[06:44] <fmasi> hi i am using a debian system and like to know how to usa the jigdo metod so i can get the latest snapshot of ubuntu 6.06
[06:44] <gnomefreak> almenfors: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   but kind of depends on what is wrong with mouse
[06:44] <gnomefreak> anika: #ubuntu-es for spanish
[06:44] <gnomefreak> max: dont do that
[06:45] <max> wan kommt die neue version raus
[06:45] <max> was
[06:45] <VR_> max: juni
[06:45] <max> geil
[06:45] <gnomefreak> english
[06:46] <VR_> =)
[06:46] <max> ok
[06:46] <max> lol
[06:46] <Bart> hwo do you search for wireless networks with ubuntu
[06:46] <max> hat jemand wow
[06:46] <VR_> "ShipIt is not yet open for requests of Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake)" :(
[06:46] <Bart> whats the path or menu button
[06:46] <max> no
[06:47] <matthew_w> graveson - should be just an assignment, but I think this is over my head.
[06:47] <max> n=hatmail:784(::;+)
[06:47] <rosen> where can I find an up-to-date sources.list?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> !sources
[06:48] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> theres an !easyrepo bot url. :P but i can never rember the right keywors
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> lol
[06:48] <max> was seid ihr eigentlich fr freaks ich versteh kein wort
[06:48] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[06:48] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:48] <rosen> thanks
[06:48] <dan__> i instalated wine on my ubuntu .. but how i use this aplication ? where can i find it ?
[06:48] <VR_> max: this is an english channel.
[06:48] <VR_> too late.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> dan__,  you may want to read up about wine on the wine web sites.. you 'should' be avble to double click on a windows.exe installer and install a windows ap.. and it add a menu item
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> dan__,  or from the shell -->   wine /path/to/windowsapp.exe
[06:50] <dan__> dnx
[06:50] <dan__> tnx
[06:50] <Bart> where sthe wireles network dialog on ubuntu
[06:52] <almenfors> back
[06:52] <almenfors> hum..
[06:52] <yggdrasil> darn i cant make that gmailfs work...
[06:52] <Bart> do you need a driver for Ralink rt2500
[06:52] <yggdrasil> sad.
[06:53] <graveson> mathew_w : i have been trying keyboard shorcuts ,but no luck. not sure how it stopped working in any case
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Bart,  lib/modules/2.6.15-22-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2500/rt2500.ko - so its installed on dapper.. not sure if you got it installed or not.
[06:53] <GaiaX11> I've asked the reason why they gave the names: Hoary; Breeze; Warty - to Ubuntu but it has been difficult to get an answer. Anyone here knows?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> GaiaX11,  the big guy has a funny sence of Humor.
[06:53] <bluefoxicy> Anyone know how to type an e with an accent over itL
[06:54] <tuxmaniac> When Power goes and comes back Dapper locks screen!!
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> bluefoxicy,  gnome has a little tool that lets ya click and make those.
[06:54] <GaiaX11> But what do these names mean?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> GaiaX11,  they are just names that match the animal names.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Dapper Drake - is the next incarnation. :P
[06:55] <yggdrasil> i thin kthats a duck
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> a drake is a Male Duck
[06:55] <yggdrasil> they swim on the water
[06:55] <yggdrasil> and go quack
[06:55] <GaiaX11> And hoary,
[06:55] <GaiaX11> And hoary?
[06:55] <GaiaX11> And warty
[06:56] <GaiaX11> ?
[06:56] <Bart> how do you search for a wireless network using ubuntu
[06:56] <Bart> please!
[06:56] <axisme> wpa or wep
[06:56] <yggdrasil>  Covered with grayish hair or pubescence: hoary leaves.
[06:56] <axisme> if wep just use Networking
[06:56] <axisme> is wpa download gnome metwork manager
[06:56] <axisme> network*
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> GaiaX11,  they all had animal names - you aparently just read the first half of the names. check ubuntu homepage for details :P
[06:57] <GaiaX11> Thanks
[06:57] <almenfors> im stuck using this damn mousepad... hate it..
[06:58] <paulfox> hi again all. does anyone know how i can express: viag[or this|or this|or this] 
[06:58] <rosen> tbh ... ALL the things i've tried to do in ubuntu have failed ... starting to think windows isnt all that bad...
[06:58] <vocious> Another "newb" question :P. I got a .deb file on desktop and run apt-get install application_name.deb in terminal window but get error. have i placed the file in the wrong folder ?
[06:58] <[Spooky] > anyone know any good cpu-temp monitor ?
[06:59] <DaSkreec1> rosen: What have you tried?
[06:59] <Mastastealth> vocius: put in ur home folder, and run "sudo dpkg -i bedfilename.deb"
[06:59] <almenfors> gnomefreak, did u get my msg?
[06:59] <gnomefreak> no
[06:59] <DaSkreec1> vocious: Try dpkg -i deb_file
[06:59] <almenfors> oh private doesnt work to u then ^^
[06:59] <vocious> Ok thanks for answers, il try.
[07:00] <Bart> aixse i used networking but that doesnt search
[07:00] <rosen> DaSkreec1, alot of different things, but when there is 100 different 'official guides' and 1000 'official' sources lists and all of them use different repos, lists and updates then it's a muddy water to swim in
[07:00] <gnomefreak> almenfors: you have to be registered and identified before you can pm anyone and its a good idea to ask first
[07:00] <Bart> youve to specify in it
[07:00] <Bart> i just want to search for wireless networks
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> rosen,  never noticed there being that many. :P   but it depends on what exactly you are wanting to do I guess.
[07:00] <almenfors> gnomefreak, the problem i have is that i dont want to use the mousepad. i  want to install my usb optical but he cant identify it.
[07:01] <[Spooky] > anyone know any good cpu-temp monitor application ?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> almenfors,  you got a usb mouse - on a laptop and its not seeing it?
[07:01] <rosen> well just adding different codecs and such ... updating software to play music and videos... it's a nightmare compared to redhat, suse and WINDOWS!
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> [Spooky] ,  lm-sensors , and then theres dozens of apps that use the lm-sensors data. depends on what you want.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> rosen,  codecs are a nightmare on windows as well.
[07:02] <almenfors> he lists it as unknown device
[07:02] <Mastastealth> indeed -.-
[07:02] <rosen> vlc player handles it all....
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> rosen,   thats a legal mudhole as well.
[07:02] <Bart> somebodys gotta know please help...how do you search for wireles networks with ubuntu
[07:02] <DaSkreec1> rosen: What are you trying to play?
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> vlc handles MOST of them.
[07:02] <Mastastealth> Bart, network manager
[07:02] <yo> can somebody help me?
[07:02] <NoUse> !helpme
[07:02] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> and i use vlc all the time. - i still find a few it cant play right.
[07:02] <DaSkreec1> Dr_Willis: as long as it's all the ones he wants to play :-)
[07:02] <[Spooky] > Dr_Willis: thanks
[07:02] <Bart> network manager...wheres that
[07:02] <Bart> system>networking
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> DaSkreec1,  :) i wont mention Where the ones it cant play.. come from..
[07:03] <yo> how to remove/delete a user complete
[07:03] <Mastastealth> Bart, it will be released in the next Ubuntu (Dapper) if you can wait, or you can find the how to in the forums for installing on Breezy
[07:03] <rosen> DaSkreec1, I just want to install things like w32 codecs, java, quicktime etc ... all the normal stuff that is usually not a problem .. well I spent two days using different guides
[07:03] <NoUse> yo system -> admin ->users
[07:03] <DaSkreec1> rosen: You enabled multiverse?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> all the stuff that cant be legally included. :P
[07:03] <rosen> and EVERY damn update I try brings up new problems ... too much work compared to the result.
[07:03] <rosen> yeah buth multiverse and universe
[07:03] <DaSkreec1> And you installed mplayer?
[07:03] <Bart> MastasHealth.....you mean i cant search for wireles networks
[07:04] <nzx> hey, i have a dialog coming up when i press a volume up/down key, but nothing is happening, how can i change its settings?
[07:04] <Bart> i have ralink rt2500 which is supported built in out of box
[07:04] <rosen> but there is alot of different sources lists floating around all claiming to be the right one .. and none of them fit anything else out there
[07:04] <Mastastealth> Bart: not in Breezy, atm, with its default install, you can install stuff for it though
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> rosen,  i normally just go get the codec files from the mplayer homepage. it seems to be the most up to date.
[07:04] <Bart> where can i get it please
[07:04] <Bart> id appreciate this
[07:04] <Mastastealth> you can connect and stuff, but there arent any fancy roaming wireless tools
[07:04] <Mastastealth> ill find ya a lik
[07:04] <Mastastealth> *link
[07:05] <DaSkreec1> rosen: well would you like to debate this or fix the problem first? :)
[07:05] <gnomefreak> rosen: are you on 64bit?
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  i was just about to ask that. :P
[07:05] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:05] <rosen> I havent installed anything actually .... and I doubt I will ... I'm just trying to say that if ubuntu is to work for the 'new' to linux, then it can't have 1000 different approaches .. especially since they dont really work together
[07:05] <DaSkreec1> Great minds... I tell you
[07:05] <gnomefreak> rosen: or ppc
[07:05] <Bart> where could i get something to get the search for wifi wokring
[07:05] <rosen> I'm just debating it
[07:05] <DaSkreec1> Ah ok
[07:06] <DaSkreec1> Well muse away. can You see a solution?
[07:06] <Mastastealth> Bart: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125150&highlight=Network+manager
[07:06] <yo> how to delete a user and all his stuff complete
[07:06] <rosen> yes ... I can see that the ubuntu staff should clean up the wiki and not let anyone who thinks he's a wizard posts guides that will fuck it all up
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> rosen,  of course when dapper gets released - all the old docs will be  wrong to some degree.. thats what ya get when a disrto has regular releases every 6 mo
[07:06] <Bart> sound man
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> rosen,  it pays to learn the fundamentals.
[07:06] <gnomefreak> rosen: language
[07:06] <almenfors> Dr_Willis, sorry for the late reply. he lists it but as unknown device.
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> almenfors,  heh - ok - what were we even talking about now? :P
[07:07] <gnomefreak> almenfors: does it work?
[07:07] <Mastastealth> yo: go to System -> Administration -> Users and Groups, select user, and click delete
[07:07] <yo> can nobody help me?
[07:07] <kristian324324> halo
[07:07] <rosen> Dr_Willis, I do know the fundamentals, I've had several other distros up and running before ... but the ubuntu community have made it totally muddy with all the different guides all with different ways of doing things
[07:07] <almenfors> wait ill register so i can answer ur private msg guys.. lol
[07:08] <DaSkreec1> rosen: Problem with that is that there is no ONE solution
[07:08] <gnomefreak> rosen: what arch are you running?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> rosen,  when in doubt.. stick to the wiki.. and if the wiki is wrong change it. thats the defacto guides as far as i am concerned.
[07:08] <rosen> yeah sems there is no solution at all
[07:08] <DaSkreec1> rosen: I thought you said you hadn't installed anything yet?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> rosen,  other then the wiki, and the forums (which are often a wiki-in-progress. ive not really noticed any other guides.
[07:08] <DaSkreec1> How do you know?
[07:09] <GaiaX11> How do i install java plugin in ubuntu i have searched the net, but did not find a ubuntu repos from where i can get it.
[07:09] <yo> but the account isn't deleted when i yo: go to System -> Administration -> Users and Groups, select user, and click delete
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> !java
[07:09] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:09] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: what version of ubuntu?
[07:09] <soundray> rosen: don't forget that ubuntu aims to be a free system. That means that a) you can't have out-of-the-box support for non-free formats like DVD.
[07:09] <GaiaX11> Breezy
[07:09] <NoUse> yo what part isn't being deleted?
[07:09] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: follow that guide than
[07:09] <soundray> rosen: and b) that you can't prevent anyone from publishing guidelines or been-there-done-that type reports.
[07:10] <rosen> soundray, dont forget that ubuntu is supposed to be for the people ... and with SO many deadends it REALLY isnt !
[07:10] <yo> when i add the same name the account is again there
[07:10] <almenfors> hum..been a while since i used irc. command to register?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> plus the fact that ubuntu 'cant' restrict other screw balls and less-then-compentant people from making their own guides/helperscripts and doing more harm then good... is an issue.
[07:10] <yo> with wallpapers ...
[07:10] <yo> preferences
[07:10] <DaSkreec1> yo why are you adding he same account?
[07:10] <gnomefreak> !register
[07:10] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:10] <soundray> rosen: ubuntu does a really good job of providing a basic system for everyone.
[07:10] <rosen> soundray, no but the developers could easily clean up the forum and wiki.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> rosen,  this is fast becoming a pointless rant.
[07:10] <rosen> ok :)
[07:10] <soundray> rosen: that's not their job.
[07:10] <yo> there are some probs with licq
[07:10] <GaiaX11> Where is the guide. Sorry to ask, but I am not used to ubuntu, i just have come from Debian.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> rosen,  stick with the official forums and wiki.  and egads - DONT use 'automatix' :P
[07:11] <DaSkreec1> yo: Did you delete the /home/<user> folder?
[07:11] <rosen> then why say it's for the people if they wont make it that way ?
[07:11] <NoUse> yo you need to delete the home directory
[07:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell GaiaX11 about restricted
[07:11] <doodle> hey .. i am using ubuntu 5.10 and it kinda dosent recognise the CDROM drive on my laptop.. i want to run the Live CD.. anyone got any ideas?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: in your pm
[07:11] <yo> ok
[07:11] <almenfors> Gnomefreak ty
[07:11] <soundray> rosen: btw, have you encountered easyubuntu for all the non-free stuff?
[07:11] <rosen> I did stick to the forums and the wiki!!!!!
[07:11] <soro> cisco
[07:11] <yo> and how to clear the tmp dir?
[07:11] <soro> allo
[07:11] <rosen> soundray, yeah! ... another guide that made me change the sourcelists (AGAIN) and then turned out not to work.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> rosen,  legally they cant include the stuff you are refering to.. and if you think a wiki is confiusing, then jump in and tell the wiki guys.
[07:11] <gnomefreak> soundray: if hes running 64bit or ppc its gonna be usless to even try
[07:12] <vocious> Another question, sorry if im asking for alot :P. But i downloaded a lm-sensor program, and extracted the .tar.gz into a folder. What do I do now ?
[07:12] <GaiaX11> What's pm?
[07:12] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: pm= private message
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> vocious,  you can just apt-get install lm-sensors.
[07:12] <rosen> Dr_Willis, I'm not asking them to include everything .. I'm asking them to clean up their guides
[07:12] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: what client are you using?
[07:12] <gnomefreak> xchat?
[07:12] <vocious> Dr_Willis: Thanks.
[07:12] <rosen> anyways ... pointless rant as allready said ... good luck with it
[07:12] <soundray> rosen: easyubuntu is for 64bit too. Don't know about ppc
[07:12] <soro> allo
[07:12] <GaiaX11> Yes
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> rosen,  then jump in and tell the wiki guys...
[07:12] <soundray> gnomefreak: easyubuntu is for 64bit too. Don't know about ppc
[07:13] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: on the bottom of the xchat screen you should see a tab that says ubotu
[07:13] <GaiaX11> So ...
[07:13] <vocious> Damn, didnt work :p
[07:13] <soro> how to configure gnom
[07:13] <GaiaX11> Yeah
[07:13] <GaiaX11> I understood
[07:14] <GaiaX11> Thanks, gnomefreak
[07:14] <Bart> man thats a bit much
[07:14] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: yw
[07:14] <soundray> soro: do spend a bit of time exploring what you see on your screen. Come back when you have a more specific question.
[07:14] <Bart> network manager
[07:14] <Bart> its all command line
[07:14] <DaSkreec1> yo: as far as I know rebooting clears the /tmp dir and it's world readable and writeable
[07:14] <Mastastealth> Bart, to install yes, but then you'll have a nice GUI for networking
[07:15] <gnomefreak> yes almenfors
[07:15] <Mastastealth> you could wait a few more weeks for Ubuntu 6.06, and then upgrade to it. It'll come there :)
[07:15] <soundray> DaSkreec1: /tmp isn't emptied on boot by default.
[07:15] <soundray> DaSkreec1: configure through /etc/default/rcS
[07:16] <C0urtney> i have a question about installing...
[07:16] <green_earz> vocious: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/327
[07:16] <DaSkreec1> soundray: Really?
[07:16] <DaSkreec1> I threw some stuff in /tmp rebooted and poof .. all gone
[07:16] <Bart> is there any built in SEARCHING for finding wireless networks
[07:16] <soundray> DaSkreec1: I conclude that from having several days-old files in /tmp, while my uptime is just 1 day.
[07:17] <Spec> Bart: iwlist wlan0 scanning
[07:17] <Bart> WHERES THAT
[07:17] <Spec> ...
[07:17] <Spec> don't use caps
[07:17] <vocious> green_earz: Thanks il try, but seem to get alot of errors.
[07:17] <soundray> DaSkreec1: oops, sorry, I've set TMPTIME=10 on this system. I take it all back.
[07:17] <C0urtney> i cant get my Ubuntu cd to install-powerpc into my iBook. :(
[07:17] <satempler> can I turn off my swap if I have a 1GB of ram
[07:18] <Bart> do i type that in the terminal ya
[07:18] <Spec> yes
[07:18] <almenfors> gnomefreak, ok. now back to the problem. as i wanted to use my usb mouse instead of the mouse pad. he identify it as unknown device/unknown usb device.
[07:18] <Spec> wlan0 is your wireless device -- it might not be named wlan0
[07:18] <dura> dmesg |less to find out
[07:18] <soundray> satempler: you can, but it's not recommended
[07:18] <Bart> how do i find out what its called
[07:18] <gnomefreak> almenfors: no matter what it is identified as does it work?
[07:18] <dura> Bart, dmesg |less
[07:18] <soundray> satempler: have at least a bit of swap space.
[07:18] <dura> In a terminal
[07:18] <almenfors> gnomefreak, nopes
[07:18] <satempler> soundray: ok so I could make it smaller
[07:19] <Bart> dmesg |less
[07:19] <Bart> whats that
[07:19] <dura> a command
[07:19] <dura> man dmesg
[07:19] <almenfors> gnomefreak, but then.. i had similar problem in windows. i had to disable the mousepad first.
[07:19] <soundray> satempler: 256 to 512MB is enough if your HD space is short.
[07:19] <gnomefreak> almenfors: is this on a laptop?
[07:19] <satempler> soundray: because even right now open OpenOffice dosn't use my swap and I only have 512
[07:19] <almenfors> gnomefreak, yes
[07:20] <vocious> Hmm, when i do "apt-get install lm-sensors" i get some errors, Im running a norwegian version, and really dont know how to translate the message *sadface*
[07:20] <satempler> though I am upgrading so I can run VMware
[07:20] <gnomefreak> !touchpad
[07:20] <ubotu> gnomefreak: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:20] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrrrrr
[07:20] <gnomefreak> almenfors: i dont know i dont use laptops
[07:20] <C0urtney> anyone know of a good way to get Ubuntu onto an iBook?
[07:20] <satempler> gnomefreak: what do you need
[07:20] <almenfors> gnomefreak, np ty for trying =)
[07:20] <soundray> satempler: when you run out of virtual memory (=RAM+swap), the Linux kernel kills processes, and that's not nice...
[07:21] <satempler> ok
[07:21] <gnomefreak> satempler: see almenfors for issue i think he wants to disable laptop mouse so he can add one
[07:21] <soundray> C0urtney: be a bit more specific about your problem
[07:21] <satempler> almenfors: they work together
[07:22] <C0urtney> after i type *install-powerpc* it runs a little bit of stuff then i get a black screen, kinda like on my iMac but it wont go past the blank screen.
[07:22] <satempler> In my xorg.conf I have a synaptics touch pad and a ps2 mouse
[07:22] <soundray> satempler: swap, when used, slows down the system and gives you a chance to manually remove processes before the kernel does it for you.
[07:22] <DaSkreec1> yo: How are you getting on?
[07:22] <satempler> soundray: ya I have just heard that if you have 1GB or more you can turn it off
[07:24] <satempler> C0urtney: might be a frame buffer issue
[07:24] <almenfors> hmm..anyone know how to disable mouspad on a laptop hehe.. if i can manage to do that i think my usb mouse will work.
[07:24] <GaiaX11> Gnomefreak, I am already downloading sun-java. Thanks!
[07:24] <C0urtney> satempler: so, any way to prevent it?
[07:24] <satempler> almenfors: I use a usb mouse as well it works fine
[07:24] <soundray> satempler: you can turn it off even if you have less. It's just risky.
[07:25] <satempler> C0urtney: try nofb or somthing
[07:25] <satempler> soundray: ok
[07:25] <GaiaX11> But i have free-java-sdk in my machine. I think i do not need this one.
[07:25] <rob_p> satempler:  I'd leave a swap partition of at least 256MB.  If you have a lot of RAM, you can tweak kernel's virtual memory swap behavior by adjusting a system variable.  That way you can have the system use the swap space less often but if it absolutely needs the swap, it'll still be able to use it in lieu of just killing processes.
[07:25] <C0urtney> satempler: what is nofb?
[07:25] <GaiaX11> Is this one only for people who will develop java apps?
[07:26] <vocious> Does anyone here have a url to a site where they explain how one can install: .tar.gz - .deb - .jar etc ? Much appriciated
[07:26] <satempler> no frame buffer
[07:26] <NoUse> C0urtney when you try install-powerpc, add nofb to the end 'install-powerpc nofb',it stands for no frame buffer
[07:26] <satempler> C0urtney: you might try hitting the Fx keys to see if thats it
[07:26] <soundray> !install
[07:26] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[07:26] <soundray> vocious: ^^
[07:27] <editor> hello
[07:27] <shoroniyo> I have never tried ubuntu. A red-hat/fedora user.......anybody switched from fedora to ubuntu?
[07:27] <C0urtney> nouse: so type install-powerpc nofb       <----Like that with a space?
[07:27] <NoUse> C0urtney yes
[07:27] <C0urtney> ok bbl
[07:27] <Centaur5> The updated samba won't install and I can't get the other updates because of it, how can I fix this?
[07:27] <editor> who is in here
[07:28] <editor> hello room
[07:28] <DaSkreec1> vocious: Huh?
[07:28] <Mastastealth> hi
[07:28] <NoUse> shoroniyo I've used FC3 but I didn't really switch directly to ubuntu from Fedora
[07:28] <editor> what is this place
[07:28] <Mastastealth> editor: ubuntu IRC
[07:28] <DaSkreec1> A wonderful land of misdirection
[07:28] <DaSkreec1> and rainbows
[07:28] <Mastastealth> or that ;)
[07:28] <vocious> hehe, maybe a bit confusing :P but got a url to site now where they explain how to use the different commands for different packages :p
[07:28] <IcemanV9> editor: are u using xchat by chance? if so, look at the right panel, all users in the list
[07:28] <editor> it is installed on my work computer
[07:29] <soundray> Centaur5: what's the error that samba gives you?
[07:29] <speen> Hello, I'm having some problems installing my ATI drivers under Dapper
[07:29] <NoUse> !tell speen about dapper
[07:29] <Mastastealth> editor: well...welcome to the ubuntu irc channel ;)
[07:29] <speen> Cheers
[07:29] <shoroniyo> NoUse I use Fedora 4 and heard a lot about Ubuntu, how is your feeling about the two distros?
[07:30] <NoUse> shoroniyo ubuntu is IMHO much better than Fedora
[07:30] <Centaur5> soundray: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[07:30] <NoUse> shoroniyo join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue
[07:31] <zollie> Hi
[07:31] <zollie> did I connect?
[07:31] <zollie> Can anyone see me...?
[07:31] <nalioth> zollie: no, you are only here via your keyboard (no video)
[07:31] <rob_p> zollie:  Yup!
[07:31] <soundray> Centaur5: that script is contained in /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.prerm -- you could look at that file and find out why it fails for you. If you can fix the script, your upgrade should go all right.
[07:32] <zollie> Hi I have a problem I hope someone can help me with
[07:32] <doodle> The Ubuntu live CD- version 5.0 does not detect my laptop's CD Drive .. anybody have any ideas?
[07:32] <Centaur5> soundray: Okay, thanks.  I'll check that out
[07:32] <DaSkreec1> doodle: Get a DVD Drive?
[07:33] <doodle> well it's a CD/DVD combo.. but how des it matter?
[07:33] <Mastastealth> doodle: u mean the livecd wont boot?
[07:33] <soundray> doodle: there is no version 5.0.
[07:33] <DaSkreec1> doodle: I'm just messingwith ya :)
[07:34] <doodle> well.. it does.. but when the stage comes for it to detect my cdrom drive.. it just dosent.. well it cant find it
[07:34] <C0urtney> nope it didnt work
[07:34] <doodle> oops.s. sorry ver 5.10...
[07:34] <GaiaX11> Sometimes this happens becaus de cd is not clean wash it with water and dry it
[07:34] <soundray> doodle: is that the very drive that you are booting from?
[07:34] <doodle> yup...
[07:35] <Mastastealth> water? o.O
[07:35] <doodle> very funny gaia...
[07:35] <GaiaX11> Yes
[07:35] <GaiaX11> No problem
[07:35] <GaiaX11> Why?
[07:35] <C0urtney> NoUse: that command disnt work
[07:36] <C0urtney> NoUse: it turned off the LCD bulb though
[07:36] <GaiaX11> You can wash even your motherboard with water
[07:36] <NoUse> C0urtney ok, well I don't use PPC so I'm out of ideas
[07:36] <GaiaX11> memory and so on
[07:36] <C0urtney> k
[07:36] <DaSkreec1> doodle: I've had a Knoppix CD tell me the same thing
[07:36] <Mastastealth> nope
[07:36] <DaSkreec1> Oh the CD Drive that I'm currently booting from .. Well it doesn't exist
[07:37] <GaiaX11> Try washing with water.
[07:37] <soundray> doodle: is this a very recent laptop?
[07:38] <rpedro> !eject
[07:38] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rpedro
[07:38] <GaiaX11> It has happened to me and cleaning the cd with water solve the problem
[07:38] <Reon> I just created an new partition but cant write to it, permission denied /
[07:38] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : Hey man you there? i need help with something
[07:38] <gnomefreak> aahyes
[07:38] <gnomefreak> ahmad: yes
[07:39] <rpedro> I'm trying to eject a cd but nautilus gives an error that 'device is busy'
[07:39] <peetu> mm, can ubuntu open .deb files ? :O
[07:39] <Reon> peety, yes
[07:39] <rpedro> I closed all the other nautilus windows...
[07:39] <Reon> peetu, yes
[07:39] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : How are you? lol. i wanna install this application its called Cedega, i have the install and i unpacked it into a folder
[07:39] <vOmpatti> I havent got any open :D
[07:39] <Reon> I just created an new partition but cant write to it, permission denied ??
[07:39] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[07:39] <gnomefreak> ahmad: read that
[07:39] <soundray> rpedro: do you have any terminal windows open?
[07:39] <ahmad> !cedega
[07:39] <gnomefreak> !+cedega
[07:39] <ubotu> (formerly WineX) TransGaming Technologies' proprietary fork of Wine, for running games written for Microsoft Windows under Linux by providing a DirectX API. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/ note: the 5.1.2 release notes mention a copy protection bug with kernels 2.6.9 and 2.6.10, fixed in 2.6.11
[07:39] <vOmpatti> !mp3
[07:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:40] <GaiaX11> Wash not the driver, but the cd media
[07:40] <Mahmoud_> V0mpatti: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installuninstalldebfiles
[07:40] <Spec> mp3 is free in the US, isn't it?
[07:40] <ahmad> mahmoud salam
[07:40] <Spec> it's just non-free in teh UK, right?
[07:40] <soundray> !ubuntuguide
[07:40] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[07:40] <nalioth> Mahmoud_: don't do that here, please
[07:40] <soundray> Spec: wrong
[07:41] <Mahmoud_> nalioth: linking is against the rules?
[07:41] <Mahmoud_> ahmad: salam
[07:41] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[07:41] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[07:41] <Spec> soundray: how wrong?
[07:41] <rpedro> soundtray: nope, this is not the first time, the other times had to logout of gnome, but right now can't, specially just for swithching a cd
[07:41] <soundray> Spec: mp3 is a non-free format, period.
[07:41] <vOmpatti> Well how can i open a .deb file
[07:41] <Archville> Hello, how can i format a partition using ext3 filesystem in Ubuntu ?
[07:41] <Mahmoud_> nalioth : ok thanks .. I am few days old ubuntu user
[07:42] <Archville> vOmpatti, dpkg -i file.deb (to install)
[07:42] <ahmad> Mahmoud_, : Where are you form?
[07:42] <nalioth> !deb
[07:42] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[07:42] <vOmpatti> Okay.
[07:42] <soundray> Archville: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdaX (replace hdaX with the actual devicename
[07:42] <soundray> )
[07:42] <kcbanner> Sooo....howcome the highest kernel source I can apt-get is 2.6.16
[07:42] <kcbanner> I mean 2.6.15
[07:42] <kcbanner> I want 2.6.16 bleeding edge latest build
[07:42] <Archville> soundray, thank you,  would it be easier using Qtparted or any GUI ?
[07:42] <rpedro> soundray: sorry mispelled your name in the previous message
[07:42] <C0urtney> im even installing from the CD that they ship free
[07:43] <kcbanner> C0urtney: CDs are out of date.
[07:43] <GaiaX11> Is that possible to upgrade from breezy to Dapper?
[07:43] <soundray> kcbanner: ubuntu is for people who want stable systems, not bleeding edge.
[07:43] <Seantater> kcbanner: GaiaX11: yes, you can upgrade using apt
[07:43] <kcbanner> soundray: o darn
[07:43] <Seantater> GaiaX11: yes, you can upgrade using apt
[07:43] <Spec> !upgrade
[07:43] <kcbanner> GaiaX11: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:44] <Spec> ...
[07:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell GaiaX11 about upgrade
[07:44] <kcbanner> GaiaX11: Make sure to change all the "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list to "dapper"
[07:44] <soundray> rpedro: perhaps try lsof | grep /dev/hdc to find out what is accessing your CD
[07:44] <kcbanner> !upgrade
[07:44] <ubotu> from memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[07:44] <GaiaX11> But, how about the conflicts?
[07:44] <C0urtney> Kcbanner: are they shipping new ones yet that support iBook G3?
[07:45] <soundray> rpedro: or perhaps 'sudo umount /dev/hdc' will work (assuming /dev/hdc is your CDROM device)
[07:45] <kcbanner> C0urtney: just go to the webstite and download the PPC cd .iso and burn it. iBook G3 is the powerpc not intel, right?
[07:45] <intelikey> i wish someone would tell me how to force NO MOUNT on /dev   so udev would not mount....
[07:45] <hackel> Anyone know if there's a way to get gstreamer to play back Real (rv40) format video?  (yes, I already use mplayer but would like a client that supports smb://)
[07:45] <kcbanner> GaiaX11: apt-get will take care of it
[07:45] <GaiaX11> Humm. Good
[07:45] <northcol> Ok, this may sound funky, but does anyone have a suggestion on how to mount an SD card which is in a iPAQ PocketPC? I've managed to connect to the iPaq using synce
[07:46] <Mastastealth> !real
[07:46] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mastastealth
[07:46] <nalioth> C0urtney: the ibook g3 has been well supported since warty warthog
[07:46] <ahmad> Mahmoud_, : Where are you from
[07:46] <Mahmoud85> ahmad : Egypt
[07:46] <C0urtney> kcbanner: the iBook i have dosent have a burner, i didnt have one added, its IBOOK G3 800MHz/128/32/30G/CD-ROM
[07:46] <kcbanner> GaiaX11: You can uninstall X and your windows will stay open...you just cant start new ones. Its really quite inteeresting
[07:46] <rpedro> soundray: 'sudo umount /media/cdrom1/' still says 'device busy'
[07:46] <nalioth> ahmad: you and Mahmoud85 are welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic for your chat
[07:46] <kcbanner> C0urtney: O dear
[07:46] <Mastastealth> !tell hackel about realplayer
[07:46] <soundray> northcol: you don't actually mount it, but access the files through client programs...
[07:46] <kcbanner> rpedro: make sure that its not being accessed by a program
[07:46] <nalioth> C0urtney: do you have any friends with cd-burners and internet?
[07:46] <rpedro> soundray: I'll run lsof, one sec
[07:47] <vocious> How in the world can i get "Superuser" access ? :o
[07:47] <C0urtney> naolith: nope :/
[07:47] <nzx> can someone tell me how to configure the gnome module that handles volume up/down keys ?
[07:47] <Mastastealth> vocious: sudo
[07:47] <vocious> ty
[07:47] <kcbanner> !tell vocious about sudo
[07:47] <gnomefreak> brb need to get out of kde
[07:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vocious about sudo
[07:47] <kcbanner> hehe
[07:47] <vocious> :))
[07:48] <RandolphCarter> does anyone know what package the C manpages are in? (man 3 stdio.h etc.)
[07:48] <kcbanner> do you understand it vocious? or do you need another automated response
[07:48] <Donciakas> hello everyone
[07:48] <C0urtney> hi
[07:48] <northcol> soundray: Hmm, OK, not sure I get you. I'd like to transfer some files to the SD card, but I don't own a card reader. Thus I need to do it through the iPaq. When I used ActiveSync on Windows I was able to browse to the card and then drag & drop the files
[07:48] <jturek> I set syslogd -r to recieve syslog messages from my cisco routers.  Is there a way to make each router go to a separate log file ?
[07:48] <soundray> RandolphCarter: try manpages-posix-dev
[07:48] <intelikey> RandolphCarter does man gcc not tell you ?
[07:48] <vocious> kcbanner: got it.
[07:48] <kcbanner> vocious: yeah...good :D
[07:48] <herzi> network manager doesn't show anything about wireless on the thinkpad x41 tablet, any hints?
[07:48] <RandolphCarter> thanks soundray, and nope intelikey
[07:48] <herzi> two months ago it did work
[07:49] <kcbanner> Howcome I cant /join #ubuntu+1...nothing happens.
[07:49] <soundray> northcol: I understand the problem. Give me just a minute...
[07:49] <vocious> kcbanner: no worries, dont have the correct files to install the application anyways ^
[07:49] <Mastastealth> herzi, my network manager stopped showing wireless too, a week or so ago when I updated Dapper...
[07:49] <kcbanner> vocious: sudo apt-get install sudo?
[07:49] <herzi> Mastastealth: did you file a bug report?
[07:50] <Mastastealth> herzi, nope, but I think someone else has
[07:50] <intelikey> lol
[07:50] <NeoGeo64> Help, I cannot access my floppy drive.  There is a floppy in the drive but Ubuntu says it cannot mount it.
[07:50] <kcbanner> NeoGeo64: whats the error message
[07:50] <kcbanner> !tell NeoGeo64 about mount
[07:50] <vocious> kcbanner: no it worked with sudo dpkg, but the application im trying to install requires newer files of some sort.
[07:50] <hackel> Mastastealth:  That is really not helpful. *sigh*
[07:50] <nalioth> kcbanner: sudo is the only access to superuser in ubuntu by design
[07:50] <NeoGeo64> kcbanner, Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[07:51] <Donciakas> how can i check if my x800gto 3D is working corectly?
[07:51] <kcbanner> nalioth: I know, i was telling vocious about it
[07:51] <Mastastealth> well :P
[07:51] <nzx> anyone managed to get the sont fn keys working ?
[07:51] <Mastastealth> im waiting for network mangers next update -.-
[07:51] <kcbanner> NeoGeo64: what command are you typin
[07:51] <nalioth> kcbanner: if someone has to install sudo, their system is major broken
[07:51] <NeoGeo64> I'm not, I'm accessing the floppy drive icon from the Computer icon under Places
[07:51] <kcbanner> nalioth: look "sudo apt-get install sudo" << notice the sarcasm :D
[07:52] <NeoGeo64> in the topbar thing
[07:52] <intelikey> customized != broken
[07:52] <kcbanner> NeoGeo64: yea I know what you mean....try a different floppy. Does the floppy light even turn on/
[07:52] <kcbanner> intelikey: lopl
[07:52] <kcbanner> lol*
[07:52] <robot_tommy> anybody know when dapper will released?
[07:52] <ompaul> !dapper
[07:52] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[07:53] <kcbanner> !tell robot_tommy about upgrade
[07:53] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : when i am install cedega, it says enter password,it says cvs is the pw, and it doesnt let me enter anything
[07:53] <soundray> northcol: still here?
[07:53] <northcol> soundray: still hanging around
[07:53] <robot_tommy> ok, thanks :)
[07:53] <GaiaX11> When i want to give an answer to someone here do i have always to type his name? Or is there a easier way to direct to a specific person in the channel, but not in private conversation?
[07:53] <ompaul> gnomefreak, got a mo?
[07:54] <herzi> Mastastealth: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=Unconfirmed&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=In+Progress&field.status=Needs+Info&field.status=Fix+Committed
[07:54] <gnomefreak> ompaul: yes
[07:54] <kcbanner> GaiaX11: Like this:        nickname: messge
[07:54] <herzi> do you see a matching one?
[07:54] <ompaul> GaiaX11, type the first few letters and try hitting tab
[07:54] <soundray> northcol: in the package librapi2-tools (or similar), there is a number of programs that you can use to access your ipaq storage:
[07:54] <C0urtney> if there isnt a problem with the buffer, is there something wrong with my iBook?
[07:54] <ahmad> sh winecvs.sh
[07:54] <Mastastealth> hmm, how do i reinstall the x kernel module for nvidia? o.O
[07:54] <ahmad> oosp
[07:54] <ahmad> lol
[07:54] <imonkey> hello, is there someone here who know how i can change the xterm font size?
[07:54] <northcol> soundray: so a little apt-get action should get me there, yeah?
[07:54] <jariep1_>  hi all
[07:54] <soundray> northcol: synce-pls, synce-pcp etc. They are a bit fidgety, but you'll get the hang of them.
[07:54] <GaiaX11> Humm. I got that!
[07:54] <intelikey> GaiaX11 to answer your question.  no. there is not another way.
[07:55] <rpedro> soundray: seems it was wine that was locking the cd drive, but other times lsof would list nautilus as locking the drive when no nautilus windows were open! so I would like to know if there is any solution to this issue (if possible)
[07:55] <GaiaX11> ompaul, tab works
[07:55] <kcbanner> intelikey: if you have xchat press the up arrow and you get your last message..
[07:55] <herzi> Mastastealth: apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-... (and maybe nvidia-glx...)
[07:55] <kcbanner> not really easy thouhg
[07:55] <jariep1_>  I'm using a text to speech program to write into xchat them...   no keyboard
[07:55] <intelikey> kcbanner that's not xchat specific
[07:55] <Mastastealth> herzi: just did that, to no avail :/
[07:55] <soundray> northcol: you need librapi2-tools. Also, read
[07:55] <soundray> !forums 30936
[07:56] <soundray> if you haven't already.
[07:56] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 30936 is: HOWTO: Pocket PC Syncing with Evolution - Ubuntu Forums
[07:56] <GaiaX11> intelikey, tab really works. So, there is. Thanks ompaul !
[07:56] <IcemanV9> imonkey: check xterm manpage and use xterm -fn <fontname> e.g. xterm -fn variable
[07:56] <northcol> soundray: I did give that thread some cursory reading, but not in depth
[07:56] <soundray> rpedro: sorry, I don't know how to help you any further with this.
[07:57] <imonkey> IcemanV9: i would like to change the size but -fz doesnt work :/
[07:57] <rpedro> soundray: I mean, other than forcing the unmount, which generally isn't a good idea...
[07:57] <angelanb> ghrhg
[07:57] <herzi> Mastastealth: you might want to subscribe to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/45288
[07:57] <pally> What software does Ubuntu use to auto mount cdrom, usb external harddisk?
[07:57] <rpedro> soundray: ok, thx anyways
[07:57] <soundray> northcol: it takes a lot of patience to read, just like the whole pocketpc syncing business -- nightmare.
[07:57] <kcbanner> pally: gnome has a mounter that does that
[07:58] <northcol> soundray: thanks a bundle for the help. I'll get to work on the reading up.
[07:58] <intelikey> GaiaX11 it works but you are still perpending their name and when you find folks with nicks like   whodidit  whodidit_ whodidit2 whodidit|away and more  the tab completion isn't much help.
[07:58] <Mastastealth> rgr herzi, thx
[07:58] <pally> kcbanner: thanks, could I set the option for the automount?
[07:58] <IcemanV9> imonkey: you meant fs not fz
[07:58] <larryone> hi
[07:58] <R-C> hi
[07:58] <larryone> =0)
[07:58] <soundray> northcol: I've essentially given up -- I'm waiting for handhelds.org to release a Linux distribution that will work with my iPAQ
[07:59] <kcbanner> pally, its on by default...look around in the menus under system or preferences
[07:59] <R-C> where is the beginer room ? any help thanx
[07:59] <imonkey> IcemanV9: yes your right typo
[07:59] <northcol> soundray, lol. I'm not to that point yet :)
[07:59] <larryone> I dont suppose there's anyone in here who uses qmail?
[07:59] <soundray> R-C: you've come to the right place.
[07:59] <intelikey> R-C you're in it
[07:59] <R-C> ah :)
[07:59] <R-C> thx
[08:00] <kcbanner> R-C, you need to ask a question to get an answer, young grasshopper
[08:00] <R-C> i need hlp with ubuntu and server 2003
[08:00] <R-C> :)
[08:00] <intelikey> R-C there is a #ubuntu+1 for the "not so beginners"  :)
[08:00] <R-C> internet access thru server2003 domain
[08:01] <imonkey> i just installed a package by doing 'sudo apt-get install package' could someone tell me how i can FULLY remove it again?
[08:01] <snowfaked> why does totem complain that "the source seems ecnrypted and can't be read. are you trying to play an encrypted dvd without lbdvdcss"
[08:01] <R-C> do I need a proxy?
[08:01] <snowfaked> even though i of course have it installed
[08:01] <intelikey> and that was a statement not a question ^ R-C
[08:01] <R-C> do I need to use a proxy to get ububtu on www thru 2003 serv
[08:01] <R-C> ?
[08:01] <soundray> R-C: that's a Windows question. Make it easy for yourself, get rid of Windows and put Ubuntu on that machine, too.
[08:01] <kcbanner> R-C, we cant gelp you unless you give use some info
[08:01] <GaiaX11> intelikey, It is still of much help. At list you have to type 2 or 3 vowels or consonants. You don't need to type all of them.
[08:02] <GaiaX11> intelikey, :-)
[08:02] <intelikey> GaiaX11 yeah.  big help with folks like R-C  :)
[08:03] <HunterZ> hello
[08:03] <R-C> ok here goes
[08:03] <mzelem> does anyone know what compilers and libraries need to be installed for the CPAN module to be able to build modules?
[08:03] <Mahmoud85> imonkey, use 'sudo apt-get remove package'
[08:03] <soundray> snowfaked: does that happen with all of your DVDs? I have this issue with some newer ones -- I think it's some new copy protection thingy.
[08:03] <R-C> i have a win server 2003 domain
[08:03] <wolk> hi!
[08:04] <snowfaked> soundray: no, i was able to watch another dvd fine
[08:04] <imonkey> thanks
[08:04] <GaiaX11> With R-C , you have only to type R- + tab :-)
[08:04] <R-C>  now i started installing ubuntu on 5 boxes
[08:04] <soundray> snowfaked: that'll be it, then. Complain to the film studios for supporting this copyright protection cr*p.
[08:04] <R-C> i need to give those 5 boxes access to the internet.
[08:05] <intelikey> yeah three keys in place of..... ah three  :)
[08:05] <GaiaX11> intelikey, With R-C , you have only to type R- + tab :-)
[08:05] <wolk> does someone here have knowledge of cups? I want some ubuntu machines to print to a cups server on the local network
[08:05] <ahmad> gnomefreak, : Is it possible for me to shut down another computer on my network??
[08:05] <soundray> R-C: best to get a dedicated router. Linksys WRT54GL is a nice one.
[08:06] <NoUse> ahmad if you install the ssh server, you can login and shut it down
[08:06] <intelikey> ahmad yes.  ssh in
[08:06] <R-C> there is a cisco 805
[08:06] <ahmad> ssh? ok  is that in synaptic?
[08:06] <wolk> i have working configs on debian woody, but i don't know which files/settings i have to copy so that it will work
[08:06] <soundray> !ssh
[08:06] <ubotu> methinks ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[08:06] <intelikey> ahmad yeah
[08:06] <NoUse> R-C it depends how you configured your Win2k3 box, the last time I used Windows as a server www was through done pretty standardly
[08:06] <wolk> some help or a link to info would be very appreciated
[08:07] <sybariten> evening
[08:07] <intelikey> ahmad openssh-server iirc
[08:07] <NoUse> R-C the DHCP server gives the clients a default gateway and they use that
[08:07] <soundray> wolk: copy your entire /etc directory, then pick from it as you go along configuring your ubuntu installation.
[08:07] <yggdrasil> where does firefox,flash plugin store its dld swfs ?
[08:07] <soundray> wolk, oops, sorry, you were asking about cups specifically, right?
[08:07] <NoUse> yggdrasil ~/.firefox I think
[08:07] <yggdrasil> thnks
[08:08] <yggdrasil> thnks
[08:08] <R-C> i put in the defaul gateway and ip and nothing
[08:08] <sybariten> i was gonna install mutt. appearently it likes to install a mail transfer agent too, it got postfix for me. I dont want to use postfix so i removed it, then mutt got removed too ofcourse. I guess one solution could be to install the MTA first. But what if i compile it? If i compile esmtp, will apt-get know that i have it later on when i do "apt-get install mutt" ?
[08:08] <NoUse> R-C are you not using DHCP?
[08:08] <wolk> soundray: sorry, busy right now... i'll ask again later
[08:08] <GaiaX11> intelikey, R-C is a small name. What about [PUPPETS] Gonzo? Are you typing all name letters? :-)
[08:09] <R-C> no it's small network about 20 in total
[08:09] <ahmad> intelikey, : do you know how to use this? Cuz im not good at reading instructions
[08:09] <slackern> hehe i use static dhcp with 2 machines :P
[08:09] <ahmad> intelikey, : im better off someone telling me step by step
[08:09] <beanz> Now that Ubuntu will be shipping Sun's JRE, and the new license prohibits GCJ, does that mean GCJ is being dropped?
[08:09] <intelikey> sybariten order of install makes no differance, dependancies required.
[08:09] <soundray> sybariten: it's probably best if you install postfix and disable it. That way you'll appease apt and will still be able to run what you want in the way of MTAs.
[08:09] <NoUse> R-C 20 machines? and you don' tuse DHCP, you must not like yourself much :-)
[08:10] <R-C> it was all setup when i got there
[08:10] <NoUse> R-C I would double check your settings, make sure you set the IP, subnet mask and the default gateway
[08:10] <soundray> beanz: Ubuntu shipping JRE? Where did you pick that up?
[08:10] <Vocious> Anyone here with experience with aMSN ? I tried to install but need "tcltls package" so if you know where i can get it its much appriciated
[08:10] <NoUse> soundray its true, in dapper's multiverse
[08:10] <R-C> do i need anything else for it to work right?
[08:10] <sybariten> soundray: but its such a gay solution. It even installs itself as a daemon, probably starting each time i reboot the machine.
[08:11] <Archville> soundray, it is normal to have a "lost+found" directory when i create an "ext3" fs ?
[08:11] <almenfors> ahh..got my usb mouse running.. had to change mouse lol
[08:11] <NoUse> R-C I don't think so
[08:11] <soundray> NoUse: ah okay, but that's not ubuntu proper, so there's no conflict with gcj (beanz)
[08:11] <almenfors> now i could use some help to disable my touchpad/mouse pad.
[08:11] <soundray> sybariten: that's why I say disable it.
[08:11] <sybariten> intelikey: i wasnt really thinking of the order of install ... but rather the fact that if i compile something, mauybe it isnt added to the "database" that apt uses to keep track of what software i have installed.
[08:11] <_n30> hello
[08:11] <intelikey> ahmad what ssh.   yeah you install it activate the server  sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start    or something like that.    then the client end is simple    ssh <username>@<hostname>    then type in the users passwd for the remote box.
[08:12] <soundray> Archville: yes, absolutely.
[08:12] <_n30> can anyone help me install ubutu
[08:12] <_n30> ?
[08:12] <_n30> I have a problem
[08:12] <beanz> soundray: Why is there no conflict? The Sun license prevents it - or have I misread it?
[08:12] <_n30> im running Kubuntu install
[08:12] <NoUse> !helpme
[08:12] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[08:12] <slackern> R-C: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technologies/security/ws03mngd/33_s3ics.mspx#EEB
[08:12] <shylock> !ati
[08:12] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:12] <_n30> on old pc
[08:12] <soundray> beanz: prevents what?
[08:12] <Archville> soundray, ok. :)
[08:12] <_n30> x86 p1 mmx 233mhz
[08:12] <_n30> want to get the gui going
[08:12] <R-C> then i'll do everything over again tomorow and hopefully it right
[08:12] <NoUse> _n30 thats probably not fast enough
[08:12] <_n30> but it says passed invalid mode number
[08:12] <beanz> soundray: 2c: "you do not combine, configure or distribute the Software to run in conjunction with any additional software that implements the same or similar functionality or APIs as the Software"
[08:12] <NoUse> _n30 how much ram do you have?
[08:13] <_n30> wants me to scan for modes for vga
[08:13] <_n30> ?
[08:13] <_n30> it says minimum requrements 64megs
[08:13] <_n30> ?
[08:13] <R-C> thanks NoUse
[08:13] <intelikey> sybariten i was refering to apt.   or dpkg more specificly.   every package has it's dependancies tree  remove something that it depends on and you take it with you....
[08:13] <NoUse> _n30 and you have 64 megs?
[08:13] <shylock> could amyone halp me getting 1600x1200 resolution to work on my ati card?
[08:13] <_n30> i wouldnt mind even if it could just run xwindows
[08:13] <sybariten> intelikey: yeah i know
[08:13] <NoUse> _n30 it will probably run, but it will very slow, I'd look into xubuntu
[08:13] <_n30> yes
[08:13] <shylock> i dont need 3d
[08:13] <_n30> well
[08:14] <soundray> beanz: I guess that means that they can't put anything like gcj into multiverse, which they aren't doing. So I think it's fine.
[08:14] <_n30> only problem is im stuck here on south african internet
[08:14] <_n30> and its slow and expensive
[08:14] <R-C> thx guys
[08:14] <beanz> soundray: oh good. will there be an official check on this?
[08:14] <_n30> im using cellphone just to dial up here
[08:14] <intelikey> sybariten the reson is to keep you from whining in every help channel that 'blah' wont work...  :)
[08:14] <_n30> but downloads EXPENSIVE!
[08:14] <intelikey> reason even
[08:14] <soundray> beanz: I definitely can't imagine gcj being dropped for it. But that's my gut feeling. I haven't got any official info, as you've gathered.
[08:14] <_n30> if i could just get x windows working it would help
[08:15] <^zeon^> is there any software that records screen action as video ?
[08:15] <_n30> tried start x command
[08:15] <beanz> soundray:  hm. okay. thanks.
[08:15] <_n30> i installed the base system now but need to install xwindows from the cd
[08:15] <_n30> ?
[08:15] <NoUse> _n30 ok, well you can try it, when the boot cd comes up there is an option (I think f4), to change VGA settings, set it do 1024x768x16 or something
[08:15] <Bazzi_> coming late into the discussion why does the new sun,icense prohibit GCJ?
[08:15] <NoUse> _n30 on you've already done the install?
[08:15] <Bazzi_> *license
[08:15] <GaiaX11> It is startx and no start x, _n30
[08:15] <_n30> there is software that records screen action, opensource strangely enough for windoze but its opensourece
[08:16] <_n30> i installed the base system
[08:16] <_n30> (kernal and minimal stuff - server)
[08:16] <NoUse> _n30 then don't have X installed
[08:16] <ahmad> when i did the Bash~$ ssh <username>@<ip> it said Bash~$ is ivalid command why is that?
[08:16] <NoUse> anyone know the meta package to pull down all of X?
[08:16] <_n30> yes but how do i install the x windoze from command line?
[08:17] <Archville> How to reload "etc/fstab" ?
[08:17] <Archville> Do i need to reboot ?
[08:17] <soundray> Archville: mount -a
[08:17] <_n30> when ?
[08:17] <_n30> ?
[08:17] <Archville> Ok, thank you. :)
[08:17] <Xappe> is it a known issue that the notification areaapplet can't be onbothscreens on a dual head setup?
[08:17] <NoUse> _n30 'sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg'
[08:17] <_n30> hmm
[08:17] <ahmad> when i did the Bash~$ ssh <username>@<ip> it said Bash~$ is ivalid command why is that?
[08:17] <Xappe> (damn space bar...)
[08:18] <jadaz87> hello guys i have a problem with updates
[08:18] <_n30> interesting - so that will install it from the cd?
[08:18] <jadaz87> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[08:18] <GaiaX11> _n30, How did you install your system? Because the Ubuntu cd comes with gdm by default
[08:18] <jadaz87> anyone know what that means?
[08:18] <soundray> ahmad: don't repeat please. Do not enter the 'Bash~$' part.
[08:18] <NoUse> GaiaX11 he did the server install
[08:18] <stjepan> how to disable starting pcmcia services at boot?
[08:18] <ahmad> soundray, : Ok
[08:18] <NoUse> jadaz87 try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[08:18] <NoUse> jadaz87 then apt-get update and try upgrading again
[08:18] <soundray> ahmad: and replace <username> and <ip> with an actual username and IP address.
[08:19] <roma> how come the flight 7 dapper says released may 5 but its not available?? or is it and the website is just messed?
[08:19] <ahmad> soundray, : How i find out the user name of the other omputer, is it like the start up anme
[08:19] <gnomefreak> roma: its been released if you wait a week the rc will be released
[08:19] <jadaz87> NoUse thank you
[08:19] <soundray> ahmad: for example, to log in on my router here, I would use 'ssh root@192.168.1.1'
[08:19] <roma> gnomefreak: where can I get it?
[08:19] <jadaz87> you know what i find funny is that Flight 7 comes out after Beta 2
[08:19] <jadaz87> haha
[08:19] <ahmad> soundray, But for a windows computer on my network, how would i find the user name
[08:19] <GaiaX11> So. Why don't you get the cd and install from it? _n30
[08:20] <soundray> ahmad: it's the login name you would use if you were at that computer's console
[08:20] <intelikey> isn't there a meta package that brings in the basics for X ?     xwindows-base  or something ?
[08:20] <GaiaX11> _n30,  So. Why don't you get the cd and install from it?
[08:20] <NoUse> roma http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[08:20] <soundray> ahmad: are you running sshd on the Windows machine?
[08:20] <GaiaX11> Then you will have X
[08:20] <ahmad> soundray, : no
[08:20] <_n30> theres this distro called kubuntu it comes with kde, but when i try install it on my old p1 it says i need to 'scan' for valid vga mode
[08:20] <_n30> but it doesnt work
[08:20] <NoUse> GaiaX11 his pc is only 233Mhz 64Meg Ram
[08:20] <gnomefreak> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-May/000080.html
[08:20] <_n30> and its freaking me out!
[08:20] <_n30> lol
[08:20] <soundray> ahmad: you would need that before it will work.
[08:21] <ahmad> soundray, : oh man, lol. I wanted to try to shut the computer down and freak out my om
[08:21] <ahmad> mom*
[08:21] <selinium> NoUse: if you have installed dapper, do you get all the update (to flight-7) through update?
[08:21] <_n30> im using laptop at the moment with cellphone
[08:21] <Mystery47> is that kubuntu too "big" for your computer...(?)
[08:21] <NoUse> _n30 just give it the 80x25 resolution
[08:21] <NoUse> selinium ys
[08:21] <soundray> intelikey: there is a x-window-system-core -- don't know if you mean that
[08:21] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[08:21] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[08:21] <intelikey> ahmad you make me curious....  are you trying to shut down someone elses box ?    naughty naughty.
[08:21] <_n30> i destroyed (formatted) windoze installation on dialup pc that i use for server and want to get into using linux for the server, but not too familiar with it yet so want to learn how to use it in a gui
[08:21] <_n30> using kubuntu
[08:21] <ahmad> intelikey, : yes i am :p Its my own house hold tho :D
[08:22] <_n30> but no gui
[08:22] <intelikey> soundray yeah i think thats it.
[08:22] <_n30> hmm
[08:22] <_n30> how do i give it the 80x25?
[08:22] <NoUse> _n30 kubuntu is only defined by the GUI, otherwise its the same as ubuntu
[08:22] <soundray> ahmad: that would be a felony in this country (even if it's your mom's computer)
[08:22] <larryone> I asked in here about qmail a few minutes ago, got a pm from someone, but I hadnt registered my nick yet
[08:22] <NoUse> _n30 it should prompt you
[08:22] <_n30> i have two old 2gig hard drives in the pc
[08:22] <ahmad> ok ok im sorry
[08:22] <ahmad> lol
[08:22] <ahmad> i wont atempt
[08:22] <ahmad> lol
[08:22] <_n30> + a third one that works when it feels like it
[08:22] <Vocious> man this is getting frustrating, suddenly the "./configure" command wont work. any ideas...?
[08:22] <_n30> so a real salvage operation this one !
[08:23] <_n30> ;-)
[08:23] <intelikey> ahmad maybe you should run   :(){ :|:& }: :
[08:23] <intelikey> that will shut a box down
[08:23] <ahmad> run that?
[08:23] <soundray> intelikey: there is also xserver-xorg-core
[08:23] <ahmad> what sthat
[08:23] <ahmad> lol
[08:23] <ahmad> i dont want to anymroe
[08:23] <ahmad> lol
[08:24] <NoUse> _n30 I would search ubuntuforums for this issue
[08:24] <_n30> ok i booted the linux and am logging in
[08:24] <intelikey> soundray i think it was the x-window-system-core
[08:24] <sybariten> ok i give up. I installed msmtp which is in my repository and thus doesnt need to be compiled ... but still, apt-get install mutt wants to throw in postfix too. Is it difficult to disable in all matters possible??
[08:24] <ahmad> Anyone know hwo to get the GSM 6.10 codec for linux, cuz i need to use ventrilo
[08:24] <_n30> im in, what command can i run to install xwindowz from cde
[08:24] <NoUse> _n30 'sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg'
[08:25] <NoUse> _n30 and don't call it windoze :-)
[08:25] <jadaz87> NoUse i still get the same problem
[08:25] <soundray> sybariten: just a matter of running 'sudo update-rc.d postfix remove'
[08:25] <_n30> lol ok
[08:25] <_n30> sorry
[08:25] <NoUse> jadaz87 pastebin the full error
[08:25] <jadaz87> NoUse and i only ran your first command
[08:25] <NoUse> !tell jadaz87 about pastebin
[08:25] <intelikey> Bazzi_ would you rather i told him to do   echo "$(perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=] =>%-{<-|}<&|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see')"    ?
[08:26] <NoUse> jadaz87 what did the first commadn output?
[08:26] <Bazzi_> intelikey: make it stop, please. I get eye cancer from seeing perl code!
[08:26] <soundray> intelikey: can I try that, or will I have to be institutionalized afterwards?
[08:26] <sybariten> soundray: sounds like a scary line. update-rc.d is a general command to put and unput things into the startup?
[08:26] <intelikey> soundray if you run it it translates to  rm -rf ~
[08:27] <intelikey> err no /
[08:27] <_n30> wooooo something happened !
[08:27] <_n30> ;-0)
[08:27] <stjepan> how can I know if I have bluetooth?
[08:27] <_n30> so now it says continue y/n
[08:27] <ahmad> n
[08:27] <ahmad> JOKING
[08:27] <ahmad> lol
[08:27] <soundray> sybariten: yes, and it can be undone just as easily. Run 'update-rc.d' by itself for info
[08:27] <NoUse> _n30 do you want to install X?
[08:28] <sybariten> soundray: ok thanks ... btw it answered this: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/postfix exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)    - does that basicly mean that *nix didnt like that it was running while i tried removing ?
[08:28] <soundray> intelikey: that would have been enough to put me away.
[08:28] <_n30> HEY THANKZ!!!! i learned a linux command
[08:28] <intelikey> my update-rc.d is symlinked to /bin/true
[08:28] <_n30> yes
[08:28] <_n30> i pressed yes
[08:28] <_n30> ;-0)(
[08:28] <larryone> any djbdns users in here by any chance?
[08:28] <larryone> snowballs chance in hell?
[08:28] <soundray> sybariten: no, it just means that you have to -f (force) it.
[08:28] <sybariten> soundray: ok i'll do that
[08:29] <sybariten> ahhh
[08:29] <jadaz87> webboard is a great program
[08:29] <sybariten> i feal so cleansed
[08:29] <jadaz87> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14184
[08:29] <_n30> so will xserv work on my 233mhz p1 64megs ram?
[08:29] <ahmad> Soundray : Do you know how to install something in linux? Lol. I need help installing this thing, its a codec.
[08:29] <jadaz87> NoUse look at that link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14184
[08:29] <intelikey> soundray well as user it would do more to scare you than hurt you.   but the short code i first posted (unless you have really tighened your box) would have put to a reboot.
[08:29] <NoUse> _n30 X will run but I would advise against using KDE
[08:29] <_n30> hmm
[08:29] <_n30> yes
[08:29] <_n30> very intense
[08:29] <stjepan> for what is EVMS needed? Do I need it?
[08:29] <_n30> have run kde on laptop
[08:29] <ompaul> _n30, I would not try to, https://launchpad.net/malone
[08:30] <ompaul> woo
[08:30] <_n30> does xserv work just as good as kde/
[08:30] <_n30> ?
[08:30] <soundray> intelikey: is it ':(){ :|:& }: :'? How does this work?
[08:30] <intelikey> soundray which could have been less harmfull than rm'ing ~
[08:30] <ahmad> intelikey, Can you help me install something
[08:30] <Maddy> hello
[08:31] <soundray> ahmad: why don't you just ask your question? That has worked for you before, hasn't it?
[08:31] <ompaul> _n30, its a framework, it does what the wm tells it to, and you need a reallllly light wm for that, which one I am at a lose, seeing the P1 makes me think, console only firewall maybe
[08:31] <sybariten> i'm planning to make a dir at my desktop, with the pipe character in the filename .. is that st00pid ?
[08:31] <intelikey> soundray it loops the function which loops it again.... cpu goes to 100%  ram fills up kernel starts killing things.......    it's pretty kewl.
[08:31] <Maddy> i need a 'lil help to get my wifi card working
[08:31] <_n30> so now how do i start xserv/?
[08:32] <intelikey> ahmad what ya installing ?
[08:32] <_n30> startx?
[08:32] <jacount> I was wondering if anyone here had time to help me with a 5.10 install problem
[08:32] <jadaz87> Maddy what kind is it?
[08:32] <ahmad> I need help installing this audio codec its called GSM 6.10, i have the stuff unpacked in a folder, and i dont know how to do it
[08:32] <ompaul> _n30, have you got in installed already (and yes)
[08:32] <jacount> I have a h/t p4 and i made sure that it was enabled in bios but ubuntu hasnt installed the smp kernel
[08:32] <NoUse> jadaz87 is this in dapper?
[08:32] <_n30> it said initialising package states - done
[08:32] <Maddy> jadaz87, its a hercules PCI card, ubuntu find the card, but it's kinda strange what i get here
[08:33] <_n30> so i guess so
[08:33] <_n30> im at command again
[08:33] <Bazzi_> jacount: HT is just fake anyways :P
[08:33] <intelikey> ahmad eek sorry.  you need to be asking someone that messes with multimedia.   i play with systems.
[08:33] <_n30> ht fake?
[08:33] <_n30> i have p4 lptp
[08:33] <_n30> ht
[08:33] <_n30> apparently
[08:33] <_n30> ?
[08:33] <ahmad> intelikey, : k well do you under stand this
[08:33] <Maddy> jadaz87, the card is listed as 'ra0'
[08:33] <jadaz87> NoUse yes it is the people in the dapper channel are not being to welcoming with their answers (ie no answers)
[08:33] <NoUse> !tell _n30 about enter
[08:33] <ahmad> intelikey, : in the install thing it says
[08:33] <ompaul> _n30, well first you need to configure it, so >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[08:33] <la_nena_lok> hola
[08:33] <jadaz87> !es
[08:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:33] <kcbanner> If I use a "vanilla" kernel, will it impact performance?
[08:34] <NoUse> jadaz87 it'll probably get fixed in a couple days
[08:34] <jadaz87> oh ok
[08:34] <ompaul> !enter
[08:34] <_n30> lol
[08:34] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:34] <jadaz87> NoUse but dapper refuse to update into it gets fixed
[08:34] <_n30> ?
[08:34] <Bazzi_> jacount: seriously you might want to search launchpad for bug reports and if its lacking them, add one
[08:34] <_n30> enter - huh?
[08:34] <jadaz87> NoUse haha that is going to leave me with like 200mb in updates lol
[08:35] <jadaz87> _n30 it means do not use the enter button like you whould use in AIM
[08:35] <maz> hey
[08:35] <NoUse> jadaz87 and you expected something different from running a beta OS?
[08:35] <ahmad> intelikey, Says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14185
[08:35] <maz> question guys
[08:35] <soundray> jacount: are you sure? What's the output of uname -a?
[08:35] <intelikey> ahmad looking.
[08:35] <maz> i need wirless pc card help
[08:35] <jadaz87> NoUse yes a beta not alpha near RC1 in two weeks
[08:35] <Pimpshizzled> hey guys, any good links for advice on installing soundcard drivers, im running on one channel sound at the minute, and its driving me mad =p lol
[08:35] <jadaz87> !tell Mandy about wireless
[08:36] <NoUse> jadaz87 but 200mB of upates means you haven't been updating for a while
[08:36] <jadaz87> NoUse by the time it is fixed i mean
[08:36] <idefix> how long before GAIM'll be able to use live-webcambroadcastin?
[08:36] <_n30> ok entered reconfig x command
[08:36] <_n30> ompaul reconfigured x comand
[08:36] <jadaz87> Mandy did dyou go there yet?
[08:36] <_n30> attempt to auto detect video hw ?
[08:36] <soundray> jacount: try 'apt-cache --names-only search linux-image smp' to see your options.
[08:36] <squidly> idefix: a while I think
[08:36] <NoUse> jadaz87 look over this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/9208
[08:37] <idefix> squidly, when? it's already possible a looong time in windows already..
[08:37] <jacount> my uname -a is  2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:37] <idefix> 1st of June?
[08:37] <vOmpatti> Hehe, lets see what this'll bring out, installing wow :-d
[08:37] <maz> anyboyd help
[08:37] <squidly> idefix: it all depends on when the drivers for the webcames come out
[08:37] <idefix> squidly but I can already use my webcam to display it's image
[08:37] <idefix> that isn't possible without the drivers, is it?
[08:37] <_n30> wants to know if i want to enter identifier for video card?
[08:38] <squidly> idefix: it all depends
[08:38] <squidly> what webcam do you ahve?
[08:38] <idefix> dexxa
[08:38] <_n30> heads?
[08:39] <nysosym> i play an avi file on totem and will record a little bit with sound-recorder from this movie. Ist this possible?
[08:39] <wolk> back... as i was saying, i'm trying to move these computers to ubuntu because the users complain... but i don't have a clue how cups works -_- is there someone here who does or can point me to part of the relevant documentation? the server should work fine, so it's just the config on the client side
[08:39] <squidly> idefix: its not that easy to do.
[08:39] <_n30> dont want to manually conf NO NO NO
[08:39] <squidly> all of them depend on what exacly you are using
[08:39] <_n30> is the card bus identifier default by"default"
[08:39] <_n30> lol
[08:39] <_n30> ?
[08:39] <squidly> and how it captures video, and what it outputs the video in
[08:39] <_n30> it says enter identifier but theres already stuff there
[08:39] <_n30> configuring xserv
[08:40] <idefix> the cam can already display live image with moving cyclists on my monitor, why can't it do the broadcasting with GAIM then?
[08:40] <wolk> and i didn't manage to do it with the gnome cups config tool... it's fine for local printers, but very confusing for remote ones
[08:40] <intelikey> ahmad yeah.   but i can't tell you much about the "makefile"  without seeing it.    that instruction is telling you should open the file "makefile" with a text editor and set any veriables specific to your system then run "make"     and "make install"         before you try to compile and find all kinds of errors, do you have b-e installed ?
[08:40] <intelikey> 1b-e
[08:40] <intelikey> !b-e
[08:40] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[08:40] <klm-> hey people! is there a way to make ubuntu shut the computer off at a certain time?
[08:40] <shylock> how can i get 1600x1200 resolution in ubuntu?
[08:40] <nysosym> can anyone answer my question please? :-/
[08:40] <_n30> enter ammount of memory ?
[08:40] <_n30> hmm
[08:40] <NoUse> !tell nysosym about fixres
[08:40] <rpedro> is there a page with supported tv card with ubuntu, or some howto on setting one up?
[08:40] <NoUse> _n30 you can leave that blank
[08:40] <ahmad> !b-e
[08:40] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[08:40] <wolk> klm: yes, shutdown has a built-in timer
[08:41] <idefix> squidly?
[08:41] <klm-> !shutdown
[08:41] <ubotu> klm-: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:41] <cyaern> ok, so I have a bit of a problem
[08:41] <nysosym> NoUse, i play an avi file on totem and will record a little bit with sound-recorder from this movie. Ist this possible?
[08:41] <cyaern> I set up wireless internet on ubuntu, and it was working fine, then I upgraded to dapper beta and now it doesn't work
[08:41] <NoUse> nysosym I don't know
[08:41] <jacount> the apt-cache --names-only search linux-image smp
[08:41] <ahmad> intelikey, : i will install it now
[08:41] <jacount>  didnt print out anything
[08:41] <wolk> klm-: i have a little script on the forums that does this, lemme search for it
[08:41] <maz> guys when i have the pc card drivers where shoudl i save them too
[08:42] <klm-> wolk: cool
[08:42] <rpedro> !tv
[08:42] <ubotu> rpedro: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:42] <shylock> the biggest i can choose is 1280z1024
[08:42] <squidly> one sec idefix
[08:42] <maz> ?
[08:42] <soundray> shylock: have you looked at the wiki page:
[08:42] <klm-> wolk: do you know the way to set the shutdown command to be executed at a certain time?
[08:42] <soundray> !fixres
[08:42] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:42] <intelikey> ahmad k.  listen there are several people in here that can help you with that.  just ask and be patient.     i have to run.  bbl
[08:42] <maz> does it matter where i save them to
[08:42] <shylock> soundray, which of them?
[08:43] <shylock> soundray,  i have looked at the ati entry
[08:43] <wolk> klm-, it has a built-in timer in minutes... see man shutdown
[08:43] <shylock> soundray,  but not much info
[08:43] <jacount> is there somewhere in the wiki that will tell me how to install the smp kernel?
[08:43] <soundray> shylock: look at ubotu's line ^^
[08:43] <Ayabara> how do I unrar files in ubuntu?
[08:43] <wolk> like, sudo shutdown -h 60 will shut it down in an hour
[08:43] <NoUse> !tell Ayabara about rar
[08:43] <shylock> ubotu,  thank u
[08:43] <ubotu> shylock: gern geschehen
[08:43] <ahmad> Can someone help me compile something?
[08:44] <NoUse> !tell ahmad about compile
[08:44] <tin_nqn> hello everybody
[08:44] <almenfors> hmm..is there a built in ftp server in ubuntu?
[08:44] <Archville> Not built in.
[08:44] <wolk> ahmad, what are you trying to compile?
[08:44] <Archville> But you can install proftpd.
[08:44] <g0ph3r> hm... i recently registered in the official ubuntu wiki and now my name there doesn't have an upper case last name. does anybody know how to change this? if it is possible to change it, that is...
[08:45] <almenfors> well i gotta learn how to install programs in this platform anyway so why not start now lol
[08:45] <C|int> hello all, back on breezy, to see if I can get my wireless working, and vmware :-)
[08:45] <C|int> hey almenfors
[08:45] <shylock> the wiki tells me to run aticonfig but it doesnt seem to exist and i have installed fglrx drivers
[08:46] <ahmad> wolk, I am trying to compile this codec
[08:46] <ahmad> wolk, do i need to unpack it?
[08:46] <almenfors> Hi there
[08:46] <soundray> shylock: usr/bin/aticonfig is in xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:46] <maz> question got the drivers installed and it says driver present and hardware there but the lights on the card won't come on
[08:47] <NoUse> ahmad what codec
[08:47] <C|int> lol, maz, what I was dealing with yesterday , all day
[08:47] <ahmad> NoUse : GSM 6.10
[08:47] <wolk> ahmad, which codec? isn't it already in synaptic?
[08:47] <vOmpatti> kik
[08:47] <vOmpatti> lol
[08:47] <C|int> still ain't given up eh :P
[08:47] <maz> how did you get it to work
[08:47] <vOmpatti> My CDrom drive freezes when using it
[08:47] <C|int> I didn't yet :P
[08:47] <maz> i mean i got the light to come on earlier
[08:47] <vOmpatti> It just wont open and stuff, so i cant change discs while installing
[08:47] <C|int> yet* ;)
[08:47] <maz> but it woudln't connect to the acdtually network
[08:47] <C|int> you got the ligth to come on earlier :P
[08:47] <C|int> thats a signal :P
[08:48] <maz> so i started from scratch
[08:48] <tin_nqn> people... a frecuent problema, but I didn't found the answer. How can I do ubuntu recognizes the name of my directories... and doesn't put "invaling encoding"
[08:48] <jacount> can anyone tell me how to install the smp kernel, or where i can find it
[08:48] <C|int> you farther than me lol,
[08:48] <jacount> i have the 5.10 disc
[08:48] <ahmad> Hi C|int
[08:48] <C|int> so did I , I'm back now, with breezy, :-)
[08:48] <NoUse> ahmad gsm is in synaptic
[08:48] <maz> what kind of card you using
[08:48] <C|int> thinkin maybe, I can get some things to work ;)
[08:48] <_n30> wow so many options needed for setting up a gui!
[08:48] <lightseed> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/17/166245&from=rss
[08:48] <ahmad> NoUse,  is it 6.10
[08:48] <culix> vOmpatti, because it is still mounted, try eject /media/cdrom or umount /media/cdrom
[08:48] <C|int> Broadcom 802.11 g/b
[08:48] <Hentai_Jeff> let me guess, wifi card talk?
[08:49] <Hentai_Jeff> yep
[08:49] <C|int> yeah wifi card
[08:49] <C|int> :P
[08:49] <Hentai_Jeff> only probulm ubuntu has
[08:49] <C|int> however, I go a guide I"m going follow
[08:49] <C|int> :)
[08:49] <Hentai_Jeff> rest of it's perfect
[08:49] <C|int> I was following guide, for my wireless card, and it was for breezy LOL
[08:49] <NoUse> ahmad not sure
[08:49] <maz> whats the link to it
[08:49] <soundray> Hentai_Jeff: what about ACPI on laptops?
[08:49] <C|int> and I was trying to install VMware too, and that guide was for breezy :P
[08:49] <maz> lol
[08:49] <Hentai_Jeff> I don't use it on laptops yet :D
[08:50] <C|int> btw though, got Cedega 5.0 installed :-) like a charm
[08:50] <mundi> hi
[08:50] <benoy> hello, can anyone help me understand how to share my printer which is connected to a windows XP machine so that I can print from my laptop which is wireless?
[08:50] <mundi> has anybody installed cedega on ubuntu ??????????
[08:50] <Hentai_Jeff> gotta wait for my wife to get down with my laptop
[08:50] <C|int> yep :D
[08:50] <C|int> sure did :D
[08:50] <C|int> yesterday, you missed it.. oh wait, early this morning , about, 4 am :P
[08:50] <_n30> ok
[08:50] <mundi> any help in that area ??
[08:50] <_n30> now im back in command
[08:50] <C|int> hee
[08:50] <_n30> how do i start x server?
[08:50] <C|int> help doing what?
[08:51] <_n30> have configured it
[08:51] <_n30> ?
[08:51] <C|int> installing it, and running it?
[08:51] <C|int> type , cedega
[08:51] <mundi> to install cedega on ubuntu ;)
[08:51] <C|int> once you get it installed
[08:51] <C|int> ah ;)
[08:51] <mundi> ;)
[08:51] <C|int> well, let me get my laci
[08:51] <wolk> _n30, try startx
[08:51] <C|int> lacie*
[08:51] <C|int> I'll share Cedega, just don't sign up :P
[08:51] <_n30> command not found
[08:51] <_n30> says that
[08:51] <C|int> and I'll explain how to install it
[08:52] <cyaern> hey, I'm trying to configure my moniter, and in my xorg.conf file it says "generic Monitor", so I did sudo ddcprob | grep moniter  which returned moniterid: SAMSUNG monitorid: LTN154X3-L03  so what do I put for the Identifier in xorg.conf
[08:52] <wolk> _n30, do you have an xserver installed?
[08:52] <C|int> give me a few minutes, I'm drinking my coffee ;)
[08:52] <mundi> C|int:nice
[08:52] <g0ph3r> jacount: to install an smp kernel, you usually only need to select the smp package to install it... unless i forgot something. it was kind of very easy, if i remember correctly
[08:52] <mundi> C|int: ok ;)
[08:52] <C|int> yea, I took an rpm and generated a deb file, because I got it, when I had, Fedora Core
[08:52] <wolk> _n30, try sudo invoke-rc.D gdm restart
[08:52] <C|int> eh, Fedora Core.. eh..
[08:52] <jacount> where do i select it from?
[08:52] <C|int> ubuntu way faster and better :)
[08:53] <g0ph3r> jacount: which program are you using to update your installation or add new software?
[08:53] <mundi> C|int:yah ubuntu rulez ;)
[08:53] <C|int> well, I'm going get , FreeBSD 6.1 today
[08:53] <Hentai_Jeff> wanting to get a beowulf cluster going with ubuntu
[08:54] <jacount> i dont know, i just installed ubuntu on a new box
[08:54] <_n30> cmd not found
[08:54] <almenfors> if you guys would compare win 2k3 server and ubuntu as server.. what would the result be? ftp/fileshare server.
[08:54] <jacount> havent really used it before
[08:54] <mundi> C|int: so where did you get cedega ?? have u bought it ??
[08:54] <Hentai_Jeff> ubuntu
[08:54] <_n30> i installed base system
[08:54] <_n30> ?
[08:54] <_n30> not woerking
[08:54] <C|int> I am going have that installed, along with ubuntu , and Windows XP Pro, I had it all set up like that once, however with, PC BSD,, but that was still in testing, and 1.0 official is out, however, its  FreeBSD in KDE environment, and has different port selection from another server
[08:54] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know why this is not working?
[08:55] <jadaz87> joejaxx@eclipse:~$ ln -s /etc/rc2.d/S91samba /etc/init.d/samba
[08:55] <jadaz87> ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/init.d/samba' to `/etc/rc2.d/S91samba': File exists
[08:55] <C|int> got through IT Development, at college mundi
[08:55] <peetu> Hey, could someone tell me a app what with i can make image files from CD?
[08:55] <g0ph3r> jacount: ok, you're running gnome i suspect? find the menu entry which says something like "package manager" or "synaptic package manager" from your graphical session (i'm running kde right now, so i don't know what exactly that menu says).
[08:55] <ic5> jadaz87, I think you have the command backwards
[08:55] <jacount> i clicked it but it didnt open...
[08:55] <Aeudian> I replaced my network card on my ubuntu server which use to be eth0, now i am unable to get the new card online probally on different eth port, how can i tell what port and can i make it eth0 again so i dont have to change my settings
[08:55] <wolk> _n30, it looks like your missong something important. what version of ubuntu did you install, and how did you install it?
[08:55] <C|int> Systems Engineering, Networks, etc, however, just I'm stuck with some hardware issues with my wireless on ubuntu , all other stuff, I can figure out, in a theory of sense,
[08:55] <_n30> installed server
[08:56] <_n30> from kubuntu
[08:56] <C|int> I'm going get a pcmcia, Orinoco anyways, so, don' matter,
[08:56] <_n30> hedghog or warthog
[08:56] <g0ph3r> jadaz87: yep, backwards. exchange the 2 params
[08:56] <wolk> _n30, server doesn't have a gui
[08:56] <_n30> something like that
[08:56] <peetu> Hey, could someone tell me a app what with i can make image files from CD?
[08:56] <C|int> the Gig pcmcia, for wireless,
[08:56] <C|int> etc
[08:56] <culix> peetu, dd
[08:56] <ic5> peetu, dd
[08:56] <peetu> dd ?
[08:56] <wolk> get a desktop environment/window manager and x (the gui thingy) should come along with it
[08:57] <g0ph3r> peetu: but you better read the manpage and check the params twice before running it :)
[08:57] <ic5> peetu, use dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/cdrom.iso
[08:57] <C|int> mundi,
[08:58] <g0ph3r> jacount: you probably got a prompt, asking for a password, right?
[08:58] <Aeudian> How do i check which port my ethernet card is on "eth0 or so" and how do i make it go back to eth0
[08:58] <mundi> C|int: yes ??
[08:58] <wolk> so, say "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" or same with kubuntu-desktop (and if you're on a rather new version of ubuntu you can also go xubuntu-desktop, which has kde), _n30
[08:58] <joe__> hello all
[08:58] <g0ph3r> jacount: this prompt is asking for your user password
[08:59] <joe__> is there a way to properly add normal debian sources to /etc/apt/sources.list in kubuntu?
[08:59] <mundi> C|int: so i downloaded cedega installed but doesn't work
[08:59] <mundi> hmmm,
[08:59] <C|int> as an IT Systems Engineer,/ Networks and developer, I have the right to re distribute, how  I see fit for other software that our college, purchases, on business, commercial accounts, I just cannot resale it, due to copyrights, and attempt to make money for it, I mean when I set systems up for people, of course I charge them, however, I don't charge individually for software, so crimsum just didn't get the whole point, yesterday, but hopefully he does :)
[08:59] <NoUse> joe__ you can just open the file with a text editor and add them
[08:59] <NoUse> joe__ if you want a GUI tool , Adept will do it
[08:59] <cyaern> hey, when I do iwlist scan eth1 doesn't return any results, however I know there is one, because my other laptop is connected with good strength
[08:59] <cyaern> any ideas what might be wrong?
[09:00] <C|int> its my open world, I can do what I want.. and I give back to people that , get fustrated, :-)
[09:00] <joe__> NoUse: ok but i added a debian source to it and now it's trying to install a package that breaks
[09:00] <joe__> how can i reverse that so that ?
[09:00] <NoUse> joe__ on never add debian sources
[09:00] <culix> Aeudian, don`t understand this question, the device name of your nic is defined in /etc/iftab
[09:01] <C|int> so noone gives me that bull crap spill, its non free, this stuff, well I take commercial software, and proprietary, and reverse engineer it around, and it becomes suitable for average everyday user :)
[09:01] <NoUse> joe__ did you remove the line from the file yet?
[09:01] <jadaz87> NoUse to fix it you have to rm the symlink then resym
[09:01] <joe__> NoUse: yes
[09:01] <NoUse> jadaz87 cool
[09:01] <NoUse> joe__ run 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[09:01] <joe__> NoUse: yep that's where the problem's happening
[09:02] <googler> HELP!! i have screen resolution problem in iceWM
[09:02] <C|int> now if you give me a min, mundi , I am cleaning up my external 80 GB LACIE 2.0usb/firewire, and I will send that to you asap
[09:02] <[Wiebel] > hi
[09:02] <[Wiebel] > Is there a way to make the keyring-manager work without a password?
[09:02] <NoUse> joe__ pasteinb the erorr
[09:02] <NoUse> !tell joe__ about pastebin
[09:02] <C|int> hello NoUse
[09:02] <ompaul> !tell googler about resolution
[09:02] <C|int> hey ompaul
[09:02] <googler> fonts are too small
[09:03] <almenfors> anyone know if there is any problems with netgear and ubuntu? cant get my wireless card to work on my server
[09:03] <googler> it was't like that before
[09:03] <ompaul> C|int, with 751 in the channel its not usual for greetings to take place or we would need #ubuntu-hello :-)
[09:03] <joe__> Reading package lists... Done
[09:03] <joe__> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:03] <joe__> Correcting dependencies... failed.
[09:03] <joe__> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu18) but 2.3.6-7 is installed
[09:03] <joe__> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[09:03] <C|int> hee
[09:03] <joe__> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[09:03] <C|int> yep.. :-)
[09:03] <ompaul> joe__, DONT paste in the channel
[09:03] <mlowe> grub wont boot my ubuntu partition now ? compains about cylder exceed 1024 ? same kernel i just did reboot  ?
[09:03] <GaiaX11> Can i play w32codecs with totem? Or do I also need to down totem-xine? Anyone knows?
[09:03] <C|int> lmao ompaul
[09:03] <C|int> ;)
[09:04] <ompaul> joe__, do use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:04] <jacount> no the prompt isnt comming up for some reason
[09:04] <NoUse> joe__ I said pastebin NOT paste
[09:04] <jadaz87> almenfors should you be using ethernet instead anyway? lol
[09:04] <joe__> ok thanks i don't know what that is
[09:04] <NoUse> joe__ ubotu sent you a link
[09:04] <ompaul> joe__, point your web browser at it
[09:04] <googler> i'v edited xorg.conf and put Option "DPI' "96x96"
[09:04] <googler> it doesn't work
[09:04] <C|int> hey guys, I almost got Mac OS X installed too. hee, I'm waiting on some things and meeting with these IT developers :P
[09:05] <C|int> i just want to play around with it :P
[09:05] <ompaul> !tell C|int about offtopic
[09:05] <googler> anyone can help me
[09:05] <C|int> : P
[09:05] <jacount> nothing under administration is asking me for a prompt
[09:05] <C|int> I'm nervous :P
[09:06] <ompaul> googler, read the message from ubotu (if xchat have a look at the tab with ubotu on it)
[09:06] <C|int> i was kidding ompaul , about OSX :P
[09:06] <C|int> go get you , a beer :-)
[09:06] <NoUse> C|int please, keep it on topic
[09:07] <jacount> im gonna try logging out and logging back in
[09:07] <C|int> o.o
[09:07] <C|int> :-(
[09:07] <sparkleytone> wtf...
[09:08] <sparkleytone> ompaul: being pretty quick there on the trigger.
[09:08] <googler> ok ompaul i will
[09:08] <C|int> sorry :(
[09:08] <C|int> I thought , ubuntu, meant, humanity to others :(
[09:08] <NoUse> C|int go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <|z3rosyst3m|> i need linux os to only use my tv card and nothing and nothing else any help
[09:11] <McNutella> yeah, use ubuntu
[09:11] <idefix> squidly?
[09:12] <richiefrich> |z3rosyst3m|, use any linux
[09:12] <idefix> I wasn't paying attention for a while
[09:12] <richiefrich> |z3rosyst3m|, they al work
[09:12] <|z3rosyst3m|> McNutella well i dont want any process only media ie tvtuner thats it
[09:12] <McNutella> guess any custom made distro would be nice
[09:12] <richiefrich> |z3rosyst3m|, LSF
[09:13] <richiefrich> biuld your own :)
[09:13] <|z3rosyst3m|> what lsf richiefrich
[09:13] <Archville> LFS ?
[09:13] <richiefrich> Linux From Scratch
[09:13] <Archville> :)
[09:13] <richiefrich> LFS^^
[09:13] <|z3rosyst3m|> i am not s programmer
[09:13] <richiefrich> |z3rosyst3m|, u dont need to be
[09:14] <McNutella> youll have to go read some manuals then |z3rosyst3m|
[09:14] <Archville> It's a bit complicated building it from scratch.
[09:14] <Archville> At least it's not for new users.
[09:14] <richiefrich> |z3rosyst3m|,  http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[09:14] <|z3rosyst3m|> i am a new user
[09:14] <richiefrich> |z3rosyst3m|,  then ubuntu or FC5
[09:14] <richiefrich> |z3rosyst3m|, for new users
[09:14] <|z3rosyst3m|> what is fc5
[09:15] <mike-e> !repositories
[09:15] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:15] <mike-e> !easysource
[09:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:15] <richiefrich> |z3rosyst3m|,  http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-fc5.html
[09:16] <richiefrich> !list
[09:16] <ubotu> from memory, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:16] <imonkey> what terminal emulator do you guys use?
[09:16] <richiefrich> imonkey, ?
[09:16] <richiefrich> imonkey, emulator for ?
[09:16] <imonkey> richiefrich: xterm, aterm, dterm ect
[09:16] <mike-e> i use gnome-terminal
[09:16] <mike-e> hey uhm i need to figure out if this is dapper or breezy, how would i do that
[09:16] <ompaul> imonkey, gnome-terminal is default but you can install almost anything else
[09:17] <richiefrich> imonkey, thatss not an emulator, but i use urxvt
[09:17] <matthew_> can anybody hear me? i am new to linux
[09:17] <NoUse> mike-e lsb_release -a
[09:17] <matthew_> hello?
[09:17] <NoUse> matthew_ yes
[09:17] <mike-e> mat: yes
[09:17] <matthew_> ty
[09:17] <almenfors> anyone that has a netgear wg311v3 card running in ubuntu?
[09:17] <matthew_> any idea y it pops up with an error every time i try to download somting?
[09:17] <imonkey> richiefrich: weird i read the man from aterm and i found this: aterm,  version  0.4.2, is a colour vt102 terminal emulator
[09:17] <lobstu> hello all .. i'm struggling with firestarter :T it's running, blocking everything, and not honouring any of the rules i set
[09:18] <NoUse> matthew_ if you gave us more specifics we might
[09:18] <matthew_> kk
[09:18] <matthew_> hold on
[09:18] <lobstu> has anyone had the same problem?
[09:18] <matthew_> lemme find out what it says
[09:18] <meow> hi guys. im trying to find and install xorg SDK but i cant find it anywhere. any suggestions?
[09:18] <Tonren> So guys, I typoed in my /etc/sudoers file, and now I can't sudo, even to fix my sudoers file.  What do I do?
[09:18] <imonkey> richiefrich: tobad apt-get can find urxvt :/
[09:18] <Archville> lobstu, for me works perfect.
[09:18] <Archville> (well, didn't touch it too much)
[09:18] <lobstu> Archville, did you have to do anything funny to get it work?
[09:18] <Archville> NoUse, it worked "out of the box"
[09:18] <lobstu> i have it running on my username (not root) and auto starting so it's in the panel
[09:18] <Archville> *No.
[09:19] <Archville> (nick completion)
[09:19] <lobstu> and i see lots of events
[09:19] <lobstu> (surprisingly lots)
[09:19] <lobstu> but none of the rules i have set seem to work
[09:19] <Archville> Well, i use it rooted.
[09:19] <richiefrich> imonkey, rxvt-unicode
[09:19] <lobstu> and i can't connect to the box, nor can i connect to any sites from the box
[09:19] <richiefrich> imonkey, is the name of it
[09:19] <lobstu> cant even run http://scan.sygatetech.com/ from there cos i can't get to the site :T
[09:19] <imonkey> richiefrich: cool thanks ill try it right away
[09:20] <lobstu> Archville : are you on dapper?
[09:20] <richiefrich> imonkey, thats how u start is -->  urxvt
[09:20] <jhenn> Can someone help me configure my wireless card?  Its not detected.  Its a ralink 2500 card, asus WL-107G.  Works fine in OpenBSD and FreeBSD, but I'll be damned if I can't get it to work in any GNU/Linux distro I tried.  Knoppix 3.8 recongnizes the card as ra0 but freezes when I configure it for dhcp and bring it up (whole distro freezes).  The card has open source drivers and was recommended to me by the free software foundation.  Any help would be appreciated.
[09:20] <richiefrich> imonkey, np
[09:20] <Archville> lobstu, yes
[09:20] <jacount> i got into the package manager, what am i looking for to install the multi cpu kernal?
[09:20] <richiefrich> imonkey,  rxvt-unicode (5.3): rxvt clone with XFT and Unicode support
[09:20] <Archville> Time to eat something.
[09:20] <Archville> BBL.
[09:21] <edgardpacheco> hello people!
[09:21] <lobstu> anyone else have any idea why my iptables are so damned paranoid ?
[09:21] <matthew_> i downloaded the steaminstall file and tried to run it but it says, "coudln't display '/home/matthew/Desktop/steaminstall.exe'."  any suggestions?
[09:21] <lobstu> wont even allow me to connect out
[09:21] <edgardpacheco> !FF!:%
[09:21] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, edgardpacheco
[09:21] <imonkey> richiefrich: do you know how to change the font size? its a little small on default
[09:21] <edgardpacheco> !FF1.5
[09:21] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:21] <Juhaz> jhenn, the drivers are included, so just "modprobe rt2500" ought to do the trick...
[09:21] <NoUse> matthew_ thats a windows application
[09:21] <richiefrich> imonkey, yes ill post u my config
[09:22] <imonkey> richiefrich: awsome thanks alot
[09:22] <NoUse> !tell matthew_ about wine
[09:22] <mike-e> !easysource
[09:22] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:22] <g0ph3r> jacount: ah, you're back :) better address me in the future directly (like i do here with you), so that you get my attention :)
[09:22] <Kismet> I have NVIDIA mobile VGA and every time I start a program that use OpenGL X.org restart, any idea?
[09:22] <matthew_> so i cant download it or might i be able to find a version for linux?
[09:22] <NoUse> matthew_ try wine, but don't hold your breath
[09:22] <matthew_> sry for my nooby ness but what is wine
[09:23] <NoUse> matthew_ ubotu sent you a link
[09:23] <g0ph3r> jacount: click on the "Search" icon on the toolbar
[09:23] <jhenn> Juhaz: dapper or ubuntu?
[09:23] <kcbanner> run windows programs in linux
[09:23] <kcbanner> !wine
[09:23] <Tinse> can anyone help me install sun-java for firefox? .. I installed blackdown but it seems wurm wont run with that and now I'm stuck >.<
[09:23] <jhenn> Juhaz: not ubuntu, breezy sorry
[09:23] <kcbanner> !tell matthew_ about wine
[09:23] <g0ph3r> jacount:  and then search for "linux-image"
[09:23] <richiefrich> imonkey,  the config is call this -->   ~/.Xdefaults    <-- and posted here -->  http://pastebin.com/723210   then do this in the term-- > xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults
[09:23] <richiefrich>    --> then open a new term to make it change
[09:24] <grout58> how can i find out how much ram i have?
[09:24] <Kismet> Tinse, I think that the best way is to install the one from java.sun.com...
[09:24] <richiefrich> imonkey, if you have questions an that just ask, OK?
[09:24] <jhenn> Juhaz: what about if i do a server install?
[09:24] <Kismet> Tinse, you have only to follow the instruction
[09:24] <ranpha> hi , how can you change the wirlessss key???? i know you need to edit the interfaces file in etc/network/ but i can't change it because i'm not a root user
[09:24] <matthew_> when i click on the link y didnt it open firefox?
[09:24] <imonkey> richiefrich: thanks alot3~
[09:24] <ic5> Tinse, try this: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/java.html#Linux
[09:24] <Juhaz> jhenn, both. pretty old ones, though, especially in breezy
[09:24] <richiefrich> imonkey, does that make sence
[09:24] <grout58> how can i find out how much ram i have?
[09:24] <Tinse> Kismet, the instructions are not for ubuntu afaik ... atleast they dont work here, I tried three times so far
[09:24] <g0ph3r> jacount: this should return all available packages w/ the linux kernel. the one which is installed is marked with a green dot. note that some packages only refer to others and do not include real content, though
[09:25] <g0ph3r> jacount: got that?
[09:25] <almenfors> hmm..i found my netgear card.. i wonder if there is any way to try "forcing" it to start?
[09:25] <jacount> it came up with 2
[09:25] <imonkey> richiefrich: yeah its pretty clear
[09:25] <g0ph3r> hm... only 2? which ones?
[09:25] <jacount> the one i have installed
[09:25] <Kismet> Tinse, it always worked for me :S
[09:25] <jhenn> Juhaz: okay im going to go try it. hope it works, thanks in case we don't speak again!
[09:25] <lobstu> can anyone help me with firestarter please?
[09:25] <jacount> 2.6.12-9-386
[09:25] <jacount> and -386
[09:25] <Juhaz> jhenn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500
[09:25] <richiefrich> imonkey, ok cool i do the -->    which mean another step
[09:26] <grout58> anyone ?how can i find out how much ram i have?
[09:26] <Tinse> ic5, reading :P
[09:26] <richiefrich> imonkey, some ppl  do different things
[09:26] <matthew_> NoUse what do i do once i have gone to that site?
[09:26] <almenfors> i need some serious help with getting my nic operational on my server =/
[09:26] <Tinse> Kismet, dunno :( ... not working here at all
[09:26] <NoUse> matthew_ read...?
[09:26] <ic5> grout58, free -m
[09:26] <matthew_> lol
[09:26] <matthew_> fine
[09:26] <matthew_> be that way
[09:26] <matthew_> make me read something
[09:26] <g0ph3r> jacount: that sounds a bit strange. i have 15 packages here (also using 5.10)
[09:26] <mlowe> i did dapper udate, added with usplash, it changed my boot params, and now grub gives me cyclers exceed 1024, how to undo ?
[09:26] <jacount> how do i mark things for you so that you notice them? im new to this lol
[09:26] <jhenn> Juhaz: I want to install xubuntu so will it still work?
[09:26] <NoUse> matthew_ we expect you to do *some* stuff on your own
[09:26] <matthew_> lol
[09:27] <jacount> i just got the cd's in the mail the other day and installed them
[09:27] <Kismet> Tinse, which step have you completed? Are you able to run Java application with Sun JVM?
[09:27] <matthew_> how do i change the name that pops up when i send a message?
[09:27] <g0ph3r> jacount: only type "g0ph3r:" at the beginning :) you can hit tab after some chars to let your chat client auto-complete the nickname
[09:27] <NoUse> matthew_ /nick <newnick>
[09:28] <jacount> g0ph3r: alright
[09:28] <Tinse> Kismet yeah but the problem is that my system have the blackdown version of java at the moment, and sun java doesnt seem to 'overwrite' it
[09:28] <Juhaz> jhenn, well, the driver is included in kernel package, so I don't see why or how any of the gui things should affect it in any way
[09:28] <lobstu> anyone for firestarter help
[09:28] <fearthellama> thanks
[09:28] <lobstu> pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaasssssssse -cry-
[09:28] <abbot45> I want to copy my themes to my themes folder in the file system so synaptic and stuff are also themed correctly.  how do i do that?
[09:28] <fearthellama> i like this name much beta than matthew_
[09:28] <imonkey> richiefrich: wow it looks really nice ill ajust it a little bit but it looks pretty nice
[09:28] <fearthellama> ill try the wine thing
[09:28] <richiefrich> imonkey, u can edit that file, or google it
[09:28] <imonkey> richiefrich: how did you learn about that config?
[09:28] <g0ph3r> jacount: ok, that's fine (with the cd's)... well, i don't have my installation cd's anymore, or at least i can't find them anymore. but i update the whole system via network. much easier for me, as i have broadband w/ a flatrate ;)
[09:28] <richiefrich> imonkey,   google  .Xdefaults
[09:28] <jacount> g0ph3r: should i open up the cd?
[09:28] <Kismet> Tinse,  ok for that you have 2 way: update by yourself "alternative" or uninstall "blackdown"
[09:29] <richiefrich> imonkey, thats how
[09:29] <Sanne> Tinse, update-alternatives --config java
[09:29] <fearthellama> NoUse when it asks me to select an ubuntu version on the site which one should i pick?
[09:29] <imonkey> richiefrich: hehe oke cool
[09:29] <richiefrich> imonkey, plus u can add many things in there
[09:29] <g0ph3r> jacount: problem is, i don't know what kernels are on the installation cd's and i can't check (as mine are gone)...
[09:29] <richiefrich> imonkey, i only gave u the term part
[09:30] <g0ph3r> does anybody know which precompiled kernels are included on the 5.10 installation cd's?
[09:30] <richiefrich> imonkey,  Xclock part -->  http://pastebin.com/723227
[09:30] <loki505maese> can some one help me please
[09:30] <yan> hi. can anybody help me with wine?
[09:30] <fearthellama> NoUse r u there?
[09:30] <richiefrich> yan, explain
[09:30] <jacount> g0ph3r: if you tell me where to look i can tall you whats on there
[09:30] <NoUse> fearthellama what version are you running?
[09:30] <Tinse> !pastebin
[09:30] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:31] <imonkey> richiefrich: wow thats nice i really need to learn about .Xdefaults.. going to google righ away
[09:31] <fearthellama> version? try to work w/ me. i dont know much about computers.
[09:31] <g0ph3r> jacount: right. check the cd contents for files which are named "linux-image-*.deb"
[09:31] <SS2> hey there, I have prolems on loging into wiki.ubuntu.com, although I hava a launchpad account too. wiki name and passwords are ok, but I still cant geht in
[09:31] <richiefrich> imonkey, u can add many things
[09:31] <SS2> *can't
[09:32] <abbot45> can someone tell me the command to symlink (i think thats what i need to do) my /home/.themes folder to /usr/share/themes so synaptic will be correctly themed as well.
[09:32] <Mahmoud85> !codecs
[09:32] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[09:32] <Mahmoud85> !easysource
[09:32] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:32] <NoUse> fearthellama run 'lsm_release -a'
[09:32] <jamey> I am trying to configure a serial mouse to work in Ubuntu, after previously using a USB one. I've changed the device line in xorg.conf to /dev/ttyS0 but to no avail. Any help please?
[09:32] <ranpha> is Xorg 7.0 stable????
[09:32] <fearthellama> hold on lemme give it a shot
[09:32] <jacount> g0ph3r: is there a way to search?
[09:32] <Tinse> ok I think I got it changed so my system uses sun java now, so I just have to make firefox recognise it
[09:32] <NoUse> fearthellama put my nick in front of what you are saying to me so its easier for me to see
[09:33] <nubbe> How do I change to another user-acct (local) in just a shell? like su for root, but to another local acct?
[09:33] <g0ph3r> jacount: yes, if you open a shell
[09:33] <fearthellama> NoUse sry
[09:33] <yan> richiefrich: i'm new to linux and run win and ubuntu parallel. i understood that with wine its possible to run win programs under linux. i installed ist and now i get an error: "warning: the specific windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible. i'd like to now how to configure and use it.
[09:33] <jacount> okay
[09:33] <g0ph3r> jacount: do you know where your cdrom is mounted?
[09:33] <fearthellama> NoUse i am in the file search and i typed in 'lsm_release -a' and said found nothing
[09:33] <ic5> nubbe, su - <username>
[09:33] <NoUse> fearthellama run it from the termail
[09:33] <Kismet> Tinse, you should make a symboli link from plugin directory of firefox to the library inside you JVM
[09:34] <jacount> no
[09:34] <richiefrich> yan, winecfg
[09:34] <jacount> i have it open in file browser
[09:34] <relachs> Hi, i want to install java j2sdk1.5  (_06) but it says it doesnt find it... i enabled all universe and universe multiverse it listed after i clicked show all packetsources.
[09:34] <edgardpacheco> hello people
[09:34] <yan> richiefrich:  and then?
[09:34] <edgardpacheco> !universe
[09:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:34] <NoUse> fearthellama Apps -> Acces -> Console or Terminal I can't remember what its called
[09:34] <g0ph3r> jacount: ok, what does the file browsers location bar (if there is any?) say?
[09:34] <fearthellama> kk
[09:34] <nubbe> ic5, aha, sorry for not doing my homework. Thanks
[09:34] <Tinse> Kismet, yeah I did that once before .. just searching for the copy/paste link :P
[09:34] <fearthellama> NoUse now what?
[09:34] <jacount> cdrom0
[09:34] <richiefrich> yan u can start any .exe -->   wine <file.exe>
[09:34] <Chri[s] > howdy
[09:34] <ramvi> I like help. thank you
[09:34] <Chri[s] > gdm screwed up on me
[09:34] <jacount> g0ph3r: sorry, cdrom0
[09:35] <richiefrich> yan, ikt's reither simple
[09:35] <Chri[s] > :*+{)(
[09:35] <g0ph3r> jacount: type 'df' in the shell to see all currently available drives/partitions
[09:35] <fearthellama> NoUse i am in the terminal now what do i do?
[09:35] <jamey> How do I configure a serial mouse to  work in Ubuntu?
[09:35] <g0ph3r> jacount: no need to excuse, got that nevertheless ;)
[09:35] <NoUse> fearthellama lsb_release -a
[09:35] <fearthellama> got it
[09:35] <fearthellama> NoUse got it
[09:35] <Kismet> Tinse, let me know if ti worked..
[09:35] <relachs> Anyone? :-(
[09:35] <Chri[s] > If i'm switching frmo gnome to kubuntu-desktop can i import my gnome desktop ?
[09:35] <NoUse> fearthellama so thats the version you are running
[09:35] <fearthellama> NoUse what do u want to know from here?
[09:36] <Chri[s] > and menu icons and such
[09:36] <stickys> dam, installing dapper, flight7 on a powerbook pismo and I kept getting errors.  it turns out when the machine stops the CD drive It's unreadable, its been 5 days of trying to do this
[09:36] <NoUse> fearthellama gotta run
[09:36] <jacount> ok im in the cdrom lol
[09:36] <Tinse> Kismet, will do and thanks for the help
[09:36] <lobstu> -tries to learn iptables-fails-hopes someone will explain why firestarter rules that are set are not being honoured-
[09:36] <Chri[s] > i have pizza on the way !
[09:36] <Kismet> Tinse, you are welcome :)
[09:37] <Sanne> Tinse, in case you need this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ef347c277a133b64af0600bd1bf24bc64e7038b8
[09:37] <yan> richiefrich: i always get the error message. what do i have to do in winecfg?
[09:37] <s34n> I'm trying to find a roadmap for ubuntu releases
[09:37] <richiefrich> yan, set it up
[09:37] <fearthellama> NoUse i i think i get it. WOOT!
[09:37] <octan> Howdy alll
[09:37] <yan> how?
[09:37] <richiefrich> yan,  answer the quetions, ill show u a screenshot
[09:38] <g0ph3r> jacount: ok, so your current working directory in the shell is in the cdrom? when you do an 'ls', do you see the same as in the file browser?
[09:38] <yan> richiefrich: the questions?
[09:38] <jadaz87> does anyone know the direct link to the ubuntu repos where i could browse them?
[09:38] <fearthellama> NoUse are there any advantages to linux as opposed to windows?
[09:38] <ronnney> Do anyone know of an easy way to set up dual monitors, the xorg.conf files i see on the wiki makes my head spin?
[09:39] <octan> im having some problems.. the spca5xx modules gets loaded.. and its for some unknown reason i think is screwing up the ivtv module.. so,, how can i get the spca5xx module not to load at boot.
[09:39] <Hso> fearthellama, - apparently linux is faster and more secure :P
[09:39] <mwe> jadaz87: archive.ubuntu.com
[09:39] <jacount> g0ph3r: yes i do, i responded to you in the private chat, are you getting it?
[09:39] <ronnney> yeahh i have an ati card with 1 dvi out and 1 svga
[09:39] <ronnney> and diffrent resolutions on the screens
[09:40] <g0ph3r> erm... nope. sorry seem to have closed it now...? *sigh* it's getting late
[09:40] <Reon> How do i copy my plugings to swftfox. They come out a 0byte files ???
[09:40] <fearthellama> Hso i went to www.ubutulinux.nl/source-o-matic and i did something that NoUse said would help me download files that i wanted
[09:40] <fearthellama> But now i have no idea what to do
[09:40] <octan> should i rename the module in /lib/modules/kernel/bla bla/spca5xx to something else?
[09:40] <fearthellama> Ive used windows all my life
[09:40] <Tinse> Sanne, ooh I probably will, thank you :)
[09:40] <fearthellama> my bro recently changed
[09:41] <richiefrich> yan, http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ss28mo.jpg          http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ss3nl.jpg
[09:41] <g0ph3r> jacount: just in case, i don't get anything you're typing in the private chat. if you're typing anything, that is?
[09:41] <Sanne> Tinse, you're welcome :)
[09:41] <richiefrich> yan, thats what i mean
[09:41] <fearthellama> anyone, does sombody have any idea how i can download steam???
[09:42] <fearthellama> does anyone have an idea how i can download steam?
[09:42] <jacount> g0ph3r: yes
[09:42] <yan> richiefrich: thanks. i'll try. back in a minute
[09:42] <jacount> g0ph3r: i was typing to you
[09:42] <doctormo> what is the script for enabeling nvidia graphic gfx?
[09:42] <fearthellama> does anyone have an idea how i can download steam?
[09:42] <rpedro> fearthellama: http://steampowered.com
[09:42] <fearthellama> i no
[09:42] <unkmar> I used the server option when installing ubuntu
[09:42] <jacount> g0ph3r: you cant see anything i say in there?
[09:42] <g0ph3r> jacount: ok, i don't see anything there. probably because this is freenode and you're not a registered user... *sigh* let's continue here
[09:42] <g0ph3r> right
[09:43] <g0ph3r> :(
[09:43] <unkmar> now, I would like to know how to get a few things running, working, and setup.
[09:43] <unkmar> servers: ssh, http, ftp
[09:43] <jacount> g0ph3r: alright, i got into the folder, and i see the same as i see in thr file browser
[09:43] <Morden> can I create a new variable "LINK" like this:          LINK=fgrep http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id= $FILENAME
[09:43] <fearthellama> rpedro it says "coudln't display '/home/matthew/desktop/steaminstall.exe'."
[09:43] <g0ph3r> jacount: doesn't matter. ignore that. ok. you're in a shell, on the cdrom. now, type the command 'find . -name linux-image-\*.deb'
[09:44] <fearthellama> rpedro when i try to install
[09:44] <g0ph3r> jacount: this will recursively search for all files which match linux-image-*.deb. note the backslash before the *
[09:44] <ic5> unkmar, i just did a server install a few days ago and have all of those things working
[09:44] <rpedro> fearthellama: you need to install wine first
[09:44] <fearthellama> how?
[09:44] <fearthellama> rpedro how?
[09:44] <jadaz87> mwe: there is another one also which one is that?
[09:45] <rpedro> fearthellama: there's probably a wiki
[09:45] <ic5> unkmar, just run apt-get install ssh apache ftp
[09:45] <rpedro> fearthellama: one sec,
[09:45] <fearthellama> rpedro how do i install wine?
[09:45] <salah> hi. I have created a directory for my SSH server where I can browse directories and files.. so gnome have made a directory I just can click on.. but when I try to save files, there is no directory in Desktop.. how do I fix this?
[09:45] <doctormo> no one knows what that script is called?
[09:45] <yan> richiefrich: ok, i wanna set the c-drive which i mounted in /media/c. when i do that i get the following:  unable to define devicename of 'C:', targetpath of '/media/c'
[09:45] <abbot45> ok,  is there a way from the command line to copy everything in a folder without typing out file names of everything that's in there?  like to copy everything but not the containing folder.
[09:46] <richiefrich> yan, no u must do it in your user dir
[09:46] <fearthellama> rpedro: how do i install wine?
[09:46] <richiefrich> yan like this
[09:46] <fearthellama> how do i install wine?
[09:46] <fearthellama> how do i install wine?
[09:46] <ic5> abbot45, cp -r folder/ destination/
[09:46] <richiefrich> apt-get install wine
[09:47] <salah> fearthellama; apt-get install wine
[09:47] <fearthellama> salah
[09:47] <richiefrich> yan,  ~/.wine/drive_c/
[09:48] <rpedro> fearthellama: you can get info on apps/games that work with wine at this site: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[09:48] <fearthellama> salah when i typed that in it said http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:48] <jhenn> Juhaz: why doesn't breezy auto detect it?
[09:48] <jacount> g0ph3r: it gives me linux-image-386_2.6.12.16_i386 and linux-image-2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb
[09:48] <fearthellama> wait
[09:48] <fearthellama> nevr mind
[09:48] <octan> modules that gets loaded are they in should it be in /lib/modules/2.6.15-22-386/kernel or /lib/modules/2.6.15-22-386/build ??
[09:48] <abbot45> ic5, thanks.
[09:48] <richiefrich> yan, and it's emulated so u cant use your windows dir like that
[09:48] <fearthellama> salah it said E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:48] <fearthellama> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[09:48] <fearthellama> matthew@ubuntu:~$
[09:48] <g0ph3r> jacount: ok, well. long story, short end: you only have these 2 linux kernels (none of which is an smp kernel) on your cd :(
[09:49] <abbot45> ok.  i've copied all my installed themes to /usr/share/themes but when i open synaptic its still that ugly boxy gray theme.  why is this?
[09:49] <fearthellama> rpedro i am at that site
[09:49] <doctormo> hmm, my tv is green and pink (reversed colours) ever since I pluged in my new 3d graphics card
[09:49] <jacount> how can i get an smp kernel and how come its not on thier new cd lol
[09:49] <salah> fearthellama, you have to do that via root
[09:49] <aLPHa_LeaK> doctormo, what kind of card is it?
[09:49] <salah> use: sudo apt-get install wine
[09:50] <fearthellama> salah: and that means? i have to do it from the first username created on my computer?
[09:50] <fearthellama> rpedro: i am at that site now what od i do?
[09:50] <g0ph3r> jacount: it probably didn't fit on the cd, i would suspect... do you have a good, cheap network connection? you may want to edit your sources.list to include packages which are available on the ubuntu servers
[09:50] <doctormo> aLPHa_LeaK: GForce 4000
[09:51] <tp911> dick?
[09:51] <jacount> how do i do that
[09:51] <g0ph3r> jacount: a sec
[09:51] <sybariten> trying to make a mutt package with ssl support here ...   so i am dwelving into the dpkg area. dpkg-buildpackage complained about unmet dependencies... or unmet build dependencies to be exact. Any way i can make it fetch what it needs ?
[09:51] <mwe> fearthellama: you need to use sudo and your current user must be in the admin group to do that
[09:51] <abbot45> ic5, that didn't work.  it copied the containing folder as well.  i just want it to copy everything inside the folder without typing all the files out.
[09:51] <rpedro> fearthellama: if you search that site for the app you want to use with wine, the pages tell you if it runs under wine or not, and maybe also say howto set them with wine, but first you need to install wine
[09:51] <tp911> pussy?
[09:52] <jacount> g0ph3r:alright
[09:52] <fearthellama> rpedro: wow. ok thanks
[09:52] <ic5> abbot45, cd into the folder then 'cp * destination/ '
[09:52] <Zoroaster> what is the webmin module for creating unix users?
[09:53] <bitninja_> is linux able to write to an NTFS external hard drive?
[09:53] <abbot45> ah
[09:53] <JRlinux> ImageMagick question:  convert -grayscale filename.jpg     gives "missing an image filename"  Why ?
[09:53] <ic5> abbot45, if there are folders in that directory use cp -r *
[09:53] <doctormo> bitninja_: maybe
[09:53] <Zoroaster> calling all cars calling all cars
[09:53] <taupter> Hello. I'm looking for a Cmake 2.4.1 package. I googled a lot and didn't find it. Can somebody help me?
[09:53] <Zoroaster> what is the webmin module for creating unix users?
[09:53] <abbot45> ok
[09:53] <yan> richiefrich: ok. that means that i have to put exactly what you wrote? or ../drive_c? or /home/yan/.wine/drive_c?
[09:53] <bitninja_> doctormo:  what would it depend upon?
[09:53] <salah> fearthellama, you have to have administrator rights to install applications
[09:53] <Jowi> i have a cups problem. i have an Epson Stylus DX4250 that is connected via USB and get detected properly. the driver it want to use is Stylus-800. printing testpage fail (nothing happens). it is supported with gimpprint, but I am not 100% sure that the suggested driver is the correct one. how can I verify this? I can't find the info I need at linuxprinting.org
[09:53] <peetu> How do i open a .rpm file on terminal ? :D
[09:53] <doctormo> bitninja_: support for the external hardrive layer, and compiled support for ntfs write mode.
[09:54] <richiefrich> yan the ~ mean /home/yan   it's a standared in linux
[09:54] <fearthellama> rpedro: i looked on the site and when i searched steam it came up. that means that it will work with wine?
[09:54] <Syco54645> where are the dev packages for mysql located in the repos?
[09:54] <bitninja_> doctormo:  I can see and read from the HDD, just not write to it....using a fresh ubuntu install
[09:54] <doctormo> Jowi, does the model exist on linux printing?
[09:54] <abbot45> ic5, thanks man.  worked like a charm.
[09:54] <doctormo> bitninja_: can you write to it as root?
[09:54] <Jowi> doctormo: yes, and it is supported with gimpprint
[09:54] <peetu> How do i open a .rpm file on terminal ?
[09:54] <Sanne> Syco54645, you can find out at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:55] <g0ph3r> jacount: if you do that be prepared to get a lot of updates (e.g. security patches, etc.). these can easily be in the range of megabytes, especially since you never updated the basic installation... so you should probably not try that with a slow modem connection :D
[09:55] <saquib> is there anyway to install XGL in ubuntu???
[09:55] <fearthellama> rpedro: also my bro downloaded and installed aim on his username but i dont have it on mine.  he has full admin rights i dont. does that mean i cant install aim?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> peetu: you try not to what is the app ?
[09:55] <saquib> >> is there anyway to install XGL in ubuntu???
[09:56] <peetu> gnomefreak mm ? ATi drivers.
[09:56] <jacount> i will let it sit here and update for a few hours if it has to
[09:56] <bitninja_> doctormo:  how would i try to do that?
[09:56] <jhenn_> Juhaz: its not working on modprobe rt2500
[09:56] <gnomefreak> saquib: not in 5.10
[09:56] <g0ph3r> jacount: ok, then...
[09:56] <gnomefreak> !ati
[09:56] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:56] <Mars^> What schould i type if i want to ssh to: ip 83.149.73.33 port 59184 ?
[09:56] <saquib> ohhh...
[09:56] <saquib> well anything like XGL in ubuntu??
[09:56] <peetu> Im on non graph, how do you think ill look to that ?
[09:56] <jacount> g0ph3r: do you do this by updating the repositories?
[09:56] <gnomefreak> peetu: ^^^ try there
[09:56] <fearthellama> rpedro:  yt?
[09:56] <saquib> all i have now is the 3ddeskto
[09:56] <ming> Hi new here
[09:56] <doctormo> bitninja_: sudo touch /media/externaldrive/testfile.tmp
[09:56] <peetu> well, back to gnome.
[09:56] <gnomefreak> saquib: xgl only works in dapper (i use the term works loosly)
[09:57] <gnomefreak> w3m
[09:57] <Spliffster> can somebody help me ? the postrm script of my samba package fails, now i am unable to uninstall the package with dpkg. is there a way to force dpkg to remove a package if if the script fails ? i couldn't find a hint in the man page.
[09:57] <Zoroaster> It looks like according to webmin.com, that the module for creating unix users and groups is called useradmin, but an apt-cache search comes up with nothing
[09:57] <gnomefreak> lynx
[09:57] <doctormo> bitninja_: change the directory to the mount point of your external hard drive and it should create a new file as root.
[09:57] <g0ph3r> jacount: yes, but you first need to include the appropriate repositories in your sources.list, so that your package manager is able to find the ones in the net
[09:57] <saquib> well, fedora has something like aiglx... anything like that??
[09:57] <fearthellama> rpedro, are you there?
[09:57] <Syco54645> Sanne: is it not possible to do a search with a space in it?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> saquib: not for xorg 6.8 no
[09:57] <doctormo> bitninja_: otherwise you only have read mode and you will need to wait for further kernel updates (I would not recomend comiling the kernel)
[09:58] <rpedro> fearthellama: you need root priveliges to install apps using apt-get, if not you won't be able to install wine with apt-get
[09:58] <saquib> oh... i see
[09:58] <gnomefreak> saquib: aiglx i think will only run on xorg 7 also
[09:58] <peetu> !ati
[09:58] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:58] <Sanne> Syco54645, dunno, I believe not. I think you are looking for something like mysql-dev, try that or just mysql and look through the results.
[09:58] <gnomefreak> peetu: w3m
[09:58] <g0ph3r> jacount: ah, found a page which explains this a bit: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[09:58] <Syco54645> Sanne: i did that in synaptic.  nothing came up and there was nothing like that.
[09:58] <bitninja_> doctormo:  oh hell....the name of the disc starts with a dash...is that why i can't navigate to it in the command line?
[09:58] <fearthellama> rpedro: can someone with root privelages grant them to me?
[09:58] <saquib> gnomefreak: so not for ubuntu? in 5.10 to be specific
[09:58] <jacount> ok i found it
[09:59] <Zoroaster> how does one install a .gz package?  a link to a how to?
[09:59] <gnomefreak> !root
[09:59] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:59] <fearthellama> rpedro: my bro has them
[09:59] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: read that pleas
[09:59] <gnomefreak> e
[09:59] <jacount> the 686 smp kernel
[09:59] <jacount> its downloading now
[09:59] <Spliffster> is there a way to force remove a deb package ?
[09:59] <LinuxInside> .
[09:59] <gnomefreak> saquib: only in dapper
[09:59] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: read what?
[09:59] <eugman> +p is there any reason I should change my java installation?
[09:59] <ompaul> !root
[09:59] <Sanne> Syco54645, try at packages.ubuntu.com. In Synaptic or apt you only find those packages that are in your package list, not the packages that are in repositiories you have not enabled.
[09:59] <jacount> g0ph3r: thank you so much for you help, but this will take over an hour so id better sicn off here
[09:59] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul
[09:59] <ompaul> !root
[09:59] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:59] <jhenn> Can someone help me get my wireless card working?
[09:59] <peetu> gnomefreak i dont know if i get this working, but thanks anyways :D
[09:59] <g0ph3r> jacount: the basic point there is to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list with some editor (e.g. use 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' from within the shell)
[09:59] <ompaul> fearthellama, ^^^^^^^ up a line or two
[09:59] <gnomefreak> ompaul: did you get the email?
[09:59] <g0ph3r> jacount: ok. good luck. have fun :)
[10:00] <ompaul> gnomefreak, yeap a binary?
[10:00] <gnomefreak> i dont know were they? im sorry
[10:00] <Syco54645> Sanne: ok i am looking at packages.ubuntu.com right now
[10:00] <saquib> anything at all for ubuntu users to enhance the GUI looks or use some sort of hardware acceleration, or transparency,or anything at all... need some icandies!
[10:00] <jacount> g0ph3r: i just had to add the updates to the repositories in the pacakage manager
[10:00] <doctormo> bitninja_: that is unfortunate but it should not prevent you from navigating there, try \ infront of any troublesom charicters
[10:00] <jacount> g0ph3r: thanks!!
[10:00] <g0ph3r> jacount: you're welcome!
[10:01] <Sanne> Syco54645, good luck, tell me in case you need more help with finding.
[10:01] <bitninja_> doctormo:  i should normally be able to just cd /media/drivename ...right?
[10:01] <doctormo> bitninja_: yep
[10:01] <wickedly_cool> anyone know how to accelerate gl graphics on a non gl graphics card?
[10:01] <unkmar> ic5: that isn't working for me.  I don't know why, but then again, I don't know anything about ubuntu and not much more about linux in general.
[10:01] <wickedly_cool> in ubuntu
[10:01] <doctormo> wickedly_cool: buy a gl graphics card
[10:01] <Syco54645> Sanne: ok thanks.  i think i may have found it
[10:02] <bitninja_> doctormo:  nuts
[10:02] <Sanne> Syco54645, cool! :)
[10:02] <peetu> gnomefreak:  now we'll see :D reboot ->
[10:02] <Syco54645> Sanne: but then again, maybe not.  it is for the client
[10:02] <ic5> unkmar, this will help greatly then http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:02] <Sanne> Syco54645, do you want to compile something?
[10:02] <Zoroaster> where can I find a list of repositories that work but that I might not have in my list?
[10:03] <Syco54645> Sanne: a perl module from cpan
[10:03] <saquib> is there any codec / package to play wmv High Definition format files in ubuntu ???
[10:03] <fearthellama> can a root user give me the ability to install aplications?
[10:03] <doctormo> Zoroaster: do a search on the ubuntu wiki for list
[10:03] <Syco54645> Sanne: i was wondering why when you get a package it just doesnt put the devel on the machine
[10:03] <doctormo> fearthellama: no, root is the required user to install applications
[10:03] <gnomefreak> !root
[10:03] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:03] <ic5> fearthemallama, yes root lets you do it all
[10:03] <rpedro> fearthellama: I don't know if all user accounts are able to use sudo. Are you able to run synaptic if you enter your password?
[10:04] <doctormo> Syco54645: the devel package is the source headers which enables other things to compile against those libs
[10:04] <Syco54645> Sanne: i realize that most people done need them
[10:04] <fearthellama> rpedro i dont think so
[10:04] <Sanne> Syco54645, I believe because Ubuntu focuses on desktop users and doesn't want to clutter the system with mostly unneeded ( for them) software.
[10:04] <Syco54645> doctormo: i know that
[10:04] <Syco54645> Sanne: hmmm well maybe an option would be nice.
[10:04] <doctormo> Syco54645: Then can you see why a binary distrobution would have them seperate?
[10:04] <Sanne> Syco54645, how do you go about compiling this perl module (I have no experience with tis, but I may have another tip)
[10:04] <troytroy> does anybody know of a network management tool like MikrotikOS for linux
[10:05] <rpedro> fearthellama: run 'sudo synaptic', and when asked, enter you user password
[10:05] <saquib> any software to RECORD desktop activities??? not taking screenshots.. like generating small vdo clips???
[10:05] <lobstu> is someone willing to help me figure out why when i have firestarter firewall on, that NOTHING goes in our out of the box?
[10:05] <Syco54645> doctormo: yes i do, but an option to get it at the same time would be nice
[10:05] <gnomefreak> rpedro: gksudo
[10:05] <ic5> fearthemallama, use ' sudo passwd root' then enter a new root password
[10:05] <fearthellama> doctormo:  if my brother is the root user does that mean that i have to get him to install wine and then the whole pc will have it?
[10:05] <lobstu> cant surf from it, can't access it from my other pc
[10:05] <fearthellama> rpedro: ok
[10:05] <gnomefreak> ic5: no
[10:05] <Syco54645> Sanne: i am using cpan right now.  it cant find mysql_config which wasnt on my system
[10:05] <ic5> gnomefreak, why not
[10:05] <rpedro> fearthellama: yes, gksu is also good
[10:05] <lobstu> someone help please :(
[10:05] <lobstu> so frustrating
[10:05] <Syco54645> Sanne: i am running it again
[10:05] <gnomefreak> ic5: su was disabled for a reason it will screw your permissions all kinds of up
[10:06] <doctormo> fearthellama: yes, although if you are a sudoer then you can install applications by running things as root
[10:06] <saquib> >> any software to RECORD desktop activities??? not taking screenshots.. like generating small vdo clips???
[10:06] <Syco54645> Sanne: yeah i think the client devs did it for me
[10:06] <ic5> gnomefreak, it was enabled by default on my server install of ubuntu
[10:06] <doctormo> lobstu: please explain
[10:06] <gnomefreak> there is a reason ubuntu decided not to use it
[10:06] <Sanne> Syco54645, if something tells you the name of a missing file, you can look up which package it belongs to, also at packages.ubuntu.com in section "Search the contents of packages". This is quite nifty.
[10:06] <Sanne> Syco54645, ah, cool :)
[10:06] <gnomefreak> ic5: server install is different than default install
[10:07] <Syco54645> doctormo: well either do that, or name it relevant, not like the mysql devel headers
[10:07] <Syco54645> Sanne:
[10:07] <rpedro> fearthellama: if you're able to run synaptic with sudo, then you need to enter the repositories from this site to install wine : http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[10:07] <fearthellama> when it wants me to put in a password for sudo synaptic nothing happends when i type.
[10:07] <lobstu> doctormo : i have dapper installed, i installed firestarter, set some rules, and started the firewall. firewall is up, but nothing works .. can't ssh in to the box, can't access it's webserver, nor can i surf from the box out
[10:07] <ic5> gnomefreak, i have never had permission problems
[10:07] <doctormo> Syco54645: not that all packages are sane
[10:07] <Syco54645> Sanne: i was unaware of that feature... that would make life easier when compiling
[10:07] <fearthellama> rpedro did u see what i just said?
[10:07] <lobstu> even though firestarter has rules to allow ssh and web IN and allow all OUT
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ic5: that is you ive sat here the past 3 days fixing them
[10:07] <Sanne> Syco54645, yes, I use it all the time, it really helps.
[10:07] <doctormo> lobstu: have you checked connection from the box?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ic5: dont advise it
[10:07] <Syco54645> doctormo: yes, but having the bin packaged named foo and the devel package named bar-dev doesnt make sense
[10:08] <lobstu> doctormo : how do i do this?
[10:08] <Syco54645> yay
[10:08] <Syco54645> i just failed 17/19 test scripts
[10:08] <Syco54645> time to force
[10:08] <Syco54645> lol
[10:08] <doctormo> lobstu: ping www.google.co.uk
[10:08] <lobstu> immediately doesnt work
[10:08] <lobstu> no waiting time
[10:08] <ic5> gnomefreak, well i had no idea. I always thought they just did it for security reasons. Thanks for the info.
[10:08] <lobstu> unknown host
[10:09] <doctormo> lobstu: your computer isn't online
[10:09] <imonkey> just wondering how wil a upgrade from breezy>dapper go (when its official released)
[10:09] <lobstu> IT IS
[10:09] <lobstu> i stop the firewall
[10:09] <lobstu> and everything works
[10:09] <doctormo> lobstu: then your firewall is droping all packets, make sure you do not have a drop before an accept in the rule chain
[10:09] <gnomefreak> imonkey: what do you mena how long will it go?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> s/mena/mean
[10:10] <Syco54645> Sanne: well this package is stupid... it assumes that i have root@localhost for mysql without a pw.  doenst allow me to enter one either
[10:10] <Syco54645> Sanne: so i dont see any reason not to force this
[10:10] <imonkey> gnomefreak: i mean how.. what do i need to do to upgrade it will it be hard ect ect
[10:10] <gnomefreak> ompaul: do you need me to send them in txt form instead of binary?
[10:10] <unkmar> ic5: well, now I am getting somewhere.
[10:10] <lobstu> doctormo : no clue what that means .. i just installed ubuntu for the first time last week .. would assume that default install of dapper + firestarter would at least make sure that the firestarter rules are honoured
[10:10] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[10:10] <gnomefreak> !+upgrade
[10:10] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[10:10] <imonkey> thanks
[10:10] <fearthellama> rpedro: now when i type in sudo synaptic it doesnt do anything
[10:10] <lobstu> doctormo : how can i check what you've just spoken about?
[10:10] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:10] <Sanne> Syco54645, ehm... lost me there... sorry. The perl module?
[10:10] <ompaul> gnomefreak, yes please - I want to parse them into the other client :-)
[10:10] <doctormo> lobstu: they probably are honoured
[10:11] <ompaul> gnomefreak, then they will be handy in 6.06 :)
[10:11] <fearthellama> gnomefreak how do i see if i have access to sudo?
[10:11] <gnomefreak> ompaul: let me see if i can if not ill paste them in email?
[10:11] <lobstu> ok, should i do an iptables -L INPUT or somehting?
[10:11] <Syco54645> Sanne: the perl module was one for mysql access in perl.  when using cpan it runs tests before it will install the module.  all of the tests tried to connect to root@localhost with no password
[10:11] <Zoroaster> I downloaded a webmin module to my desktop, it was .gz, extracted it, out came a .tar, extracted it, now I have a folder with stuff, what do I do to that folder of stuff, do I look for a specific .pl file to run that installs it?
[10:11] <ompaul> gnomefreak, if you can that would be great
[10:11] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: sudo apt-get update than put in your password when asked
[10:11] <lobstu> doctormo : may i pm you ?
[10:11] <ompaul> gnomefreak, don't sweat it if its too much grief
[10:12] <gnomefreak> ompaul: never
[10:12] <lobstu> Zoroaster : look for README
[10:12] <Sanne> Syco54645, oh, that really is stupid. Why assume that? So I agree :)
[10:12] <rpedro> fearthellama: try 'gksu synaptic' , it should ask you for your password
[10:12] <fearthellama> gnomefreak it doesnt ask for it
[10:12] <mirak> hi
[10:12] <mirak> where can we submit patches ?
[10:12] <doctormo> lobstu: sudo iptables --list
[10:12] <psYchotic> hello people, I hope one of you can help me out. I've been trying to compile banshee0.10.10 from source, and it works so far, except for the dbus part, and I'm thinking this might be caused by the fact that the standard dbus in the ubuntu repositories doesn't have mono bindings. Now, I wanted to compile a newer version of dbus, but I'm afraid I might break my system (because pretty important packages depend on dbus).
[10:12] <Zoroaster> lobstu, man, you guys always make me feel dumb
[10:12] <doctormo> lobstu: sure
[10:12] <Zoroaster> lobstu, thanks I will look now
[10:12] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: what does your prompt look like?
[10:12] <Syco54645> Sanne: it should have at the very least asked for a pw... if not a user and pw
[10:12] <psYchotic> what is it that I should do right now? Or doesn anyone know what can be causing the problems banshee has to connect to dbus?
[10:13] <unkmar> well, I have ssh,  That's a good start, Still not getting apache to go.  it responded with: ftp is already the newest version.
[10:13] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: a $ or a #?
[10:13] <Sanne> Syco54645, yes, definitely. Maybe tell the devs of this module about it?
[10:13] <fearthellama> gnomefreak i typed in gksu synaptic and it said i am not in the sudoers file. this incident will be reported
[10:13] <doctormo> mirak: what have you patched?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: gksudo synaptic
[10:13] <mirak> doctormo: libpam_mount
[10:13] <peetu> !ati
[10:13] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:13] <mirak> doctormo: I added better FUSE support
[10:13] <Syco54645> Sanne: most perl people are elitist, so they will take it as criticism
[10:13] <doctormo> fearthellama: your brother needs to ass you to the sudos file
[10:14] <fearthellama> doctormo: ok
[10:14] <doctormo> mirak: ok you need to get in touch with the developers of that application
[10:14] <lobstu> doctormo : are you getting my pm ?
[10:14] <fearthellama> doctormo: thanks
[10:14] <Sanne> Syco54645, hmmm... use python? ;)
[10:14] <mirak> doctormo: it's like if they are dead
[10:14] <gnomefreak> add
[10:14] <fearthellama> so intill i am in the sudoers file i basically cant do anything?
[10:14] <mirak> doctormo: juste one mail this month on the mailing list
[10:14] <Jowi> i have a cups problem. i have an Epson Stylus DX4250 that is connected via USB and get detected properly. the driver it want to use is Stylus-800. printing testpage fail (nothing happens). it is supported with gimpprint, but I am not 100% sure that the suggested driver is the correct one. how can I verify this? I can't find the info I need at linuxprinting.org
[10:15] <foogle> hello all  I'm tryin to get my 3com NIC card  going what should I modprobe
[10:15] <doctormo> mirak: you might need to pounce the project, sorry
[10:15] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: so intill i am in the sudoers file i basically cant do anything?
[10:15] <mirak> fearthellama: you can su, but only if the root password is enabled
[10:15] <Syco54645> Sanne: possible.  i was messing with it the other day.  php is fine for web, i just use perl for system development.  like taking my wiki and moving it to a different database
[10:15] <mirak> doctormo: well I already submited them the patchc
[10:15] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: correct
[10:16] <fearthellama> mirak: my brother would never give me the password.
[10:16] <unkmar> I'm getting apache now.  sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:16] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:16] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: you can use it but you cant install anything
[10:16] <doctormo> mirak: I know the feeling
[10:16] <unkmar> fearthellama: gotta love them brothers
[10:16] <doctormo> fearthellama: you need to ask your brother
[10:16] <Sanne> Syco54645, well, I never used Perl, so I don't really have an opinion. But I fear we're getting a bit offtopic in this busy channel...
[10:16] <unkmar> apache is installed
[10:17] <Syco54645> Sanne: yes we are.  at any rate, thanks for the help
[10:17] <mirak> fearthellama: beat him
[10:17] <Sanne> Syco54645, you're welcome :)
[10:17] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: once i am a sudoer i will be able to install wine?
[10:17] <djrandom> evening all :)
[10:17] <fearthellama> mirak: he is 5 yrs older than me
[10:17] <fearthellama> mirak: i have no chance
[10:17] <McNutella> !apache
[10:17] <ubotu> [apache]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:17] <djrandom> are there any people with knowledge or openswan on ubuntu in the room?
[10:17] <djrandom> *of
[10:17] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: yes
[10:17] <McNutella> how come apache isnt on add appications ?
[10:17] <foogle> hello all  I'm tryin to get my 3com NIC card  going what should I modprobe
[10:18] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: and after wine is installed there are a lot more files that i am able to download and install?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> ompaul: sent i pasted them in the body you might want to change the irssi/config a  bit what i did earlier didnt work :(
[10:18] <kbrooks> McNutella: because its a server
[10:18] <kbrooks> McNutella: not an application
[10:18] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: a sudoer can do anything
[10:18] <McNutella> kbrooks: and where would I install a server from ?
[10:18] <djrandom> anyone for ipsec?
[10:19] <ompaul> gnomefreak, no worries :-) thanks
[10:19] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:19] <kbrooks> McNutella: synaptic
[10:19] <mirak> fearthellama: you can reboot the computer then at grub prompt push edit and add -single option at the kernel command or start in safe mode. Then you can add yourself in the sudoers group
[10:19] <mirak> and reboot
[10:19] <McNutella> kbrooks: thank you
[10:19] <fearthellama> mirak: i got the reboot computer part and thats it
[10:19] <kbrooks> mirak: single, not -single
[10:20] <unkmar> I'm having problems installing ftp.
[10:20] <fearthellama> mirak: what grub prompt?
[10:20] <kismet> I get the following message in X.org on dapper flight any idea? "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual"
[10:20] <kbrooks> fearthellama: select the appropriate grub entry in the list
[10:20] <unkmar> I tried sudo apt-get install proftp
[10:20] <kbrooks> fearthellama: then type "e"
[10:20] <fearthellama> kbrooks: might i ask what a grub entry is?
[10:20] <unkmar> I tried sudo apt-get install proftpd
[10:21] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: grub is the app that lets you choose what os to boot to if your dual booting
[10:21] <kbrooks> fearthellama: the grub bootloader offers you things to boot
[10:21] <GeistDerZeit> Hey guy, i'm have a doubt about an error message from the following command: sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc driveropts=burnfree -v -speed=2 -data /media/hda6/Downloads/Books.iso
[10:21] <fearthellama> kbrooks: does it always come up when restarting your computer?
[10:21] <kbrooks> fearthellama: yes
[10:21] <gnomefreak> unless he only has one os on pc
[10:22] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: um, that doesnt make sense
[10:22] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: what doesnt?
[10:22] <ompaul> gnomefreak, it comes up in that case too :-) unless the o/s is called win*
[10:22] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: a bootloader is neeeded
[10:22] <gnomefreak> grub wont give you anything to boot to if only one os is installed
[10:22] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: no its not
[10:22] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: but multiple kernels...
[10:22] <fearthellama> kbrooks: give me the steps again one by one after i restart my computer to ad me to the sudoers if you wouldnt mind
[10:22] <redguy> GeistDerZeit: will you share the error you get with us, or should we guess whaat the error is?
[10:23] <redguy> GeistDerZeit: if it's more than 1 line don't paste in here?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> and it boots just fine
[10:23] <redguy> gnomefreak: how come?
[10:23] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: how come?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> redguy: what do i need to choose?
[10:23] <McNutella> for a simple homebased website, would I be aswell using apache instead of V2?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> only 1 kernel only 1 os what is there to choose?
[10:23] <ompaul> redguy, cos it called spam if it is over two lines
[10:23] <jenda> Hmm.... I'm trying to ping a server that seems to be down. Is there a program that would keep pinging until it was up and notify me then? (it is nervy.pedf.cuni.cz)
[10:23] <njan> McNutella, there's no real advantage in going with v1 over v2..
[10:23] <GeistDerZeit> "cdrecord: Trying to use high speed medium on low speed writer." Is my CD writer too old? It's HP CD-Writer Plus 8200. I tried putting a -speed=1 parameter,, but i got the same error again.
[10:23] <redguy> gnomefreak: it is not a amtter of choosing, it's a matter of bootstrapping
[10:23] <fearthellama> kbrooks: can u give me the steps one by one to add me to the sudoers after i restart my pc?
[10:24] <kbrooks> fearthellama: no...
[10:24] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: some installers give you the option to install a bootloader
[10:24] <McNutella> njan: does V1 use less resource I assume?
[10:24] <fearthellama> kbrooks: plz!!!
[10:24] <njan> McNutella, not that I've noticed
[10:24] <McNutella> ok njan  thank you
[10:24] <njan> McNutella, if you want a really resource-efficient httpd, try thttpd or lighttpd
[10:24] <DarkJesus> Yo!
[10:24] <McNutella> njan: depends which is simpler to use for me
[10:24] <DarkJesus> I just installed ubuntu today...
[10:25] <GaiaX11> Which is better for a server: debian or ubuntu?
[10:25] <jjazz> McNutella: if you want a really small, simple website, try thttpd or perhaps bozohttpd
[10:25] <fearthellama> kbrooks: after i restart my computer i push edit and then i type single and then what?
[10:25] <DarkJesus> It went fine all the way up to the login
[10:25] <kbrooks> fearthellama: you're expecting me, and only me, to provide information which i cannot provide at the moment
[10:25] <redguy> GeistDerZeit: maybe the cd disk's lowest record speed you are trying to write to is higher that the highest record speed of your cd writer, but this is just a wild guess
[10:25] <DarkJesus> I logged in the GDM, the splash screen came up, then nothing happened at all
[10:25] <jjazz> fearthellama: google is your friend.
[10:25] <njan> McNutella, thttpd is very easy to configure
[10:25] <kbrooks> jjazz: dont suggest that
[10:25] <redguy> gnomefreak: what is loading your kernel then?
[10:25] <jjazz> fearthellama: or perhaps 'man visudo' is your friend.
[10:25] <DarkJesus> I'm able to do ctrl-alt-backspace, but when I try again, the same thing happens
[10:25] <GaiaX11> I know that debian is very good. But can ubuntu fit to be a server also?
[10:25] <njan> McNutella, it's also one of the better known and more widely used httpds, which means it's pretty secure and well understood in general.
[10:25] <jjazz> kbrooks: Why not?  It's pretty effective for such simple questions.
[10:26] <njan> GaiaX11, yes, it makes an excellent server.
[10:26] <DarkJesus> Erm...
[10:26] <Morbid_Angel> Interesting time problem when dual-booting.  When switching to my ubuntu installation my bios clock gets setback 4 hours.  Any idea how to tell Ubuntu to stop altering my bios clock?
[10:26] <kbrooks> jjazz: conuterproductive, and ....
[10:26] <K|NgGh0sT> I help installing a dvb card
[10:26] <njan> Morbid_Angel, do you have the timezone configured properly?
[10:26] <jjazz> GaiaX11: ubuntu has a server install option.  I've never used it, but perhaps you should ask the #ubuntu folks what that option contains.
[10:26] <kbrooks> jjazz: #ubuntu is here
[10:27] <DarkJesus> Is anyone gonna help me out?
[10:27] <Morbid_Angel> njan: Not sure how would I test the timezone config?
[10:27] <kbrooks> jjazz: the option installs only the base install
[10:27] <jjazz> kbrooks: Ah... wrong window.  I thought I was in #debian.  Doh!
[10:27] <GaiaX11> Where is it?
[10:27] <tuna__> hi, there i have ubuntu - breezy 5.10. However i cannot install any packages or upgrades because of "unmet dependicies"... what should i do ? please help ..
[10:27] <jjazz> GaiaX11: I dont recall, sorry.
[10:28] <Morbid_Angel> Actually yes the time zone is correctly set to America/New York
[10:28] <GaiaX11> Is it a gui in gnome?
[10:28] <njan> Morbid_Angel, is your windows timezone configured properly?
[10:28] <GeistDerZeit> I'd a similar problem before. Actually i couldn't write a single CD on my Ubuntu. I can't even erase a disk that i wrote as booted in Windows, instead of Linux. Kind of getting desesperate - it's the only reason i keep my dual boot.
[10:28] <Morbid_Angel> yes it's set to EST
[10:28] <redguy> GaiaX11: there is aslo a server install cd which doesn't contain X, GNOME and so on, but contains apache, mysql and so on
[10:28] <jjazz> GaiaX11: No, it's an option when you first install, so way before gnome is running.
[10:28] <redguy> !server
[10:28] <redguy> !tell GaiaX11 about server
[10:28] <fearthellama> mirak: can u separate these steps so i can beter understand them? fearthellama: you can reboot the computer then at grub prompt push edit and add -single option at the kernel command or start in safe mode. Then you can add yourself in the sudoers group
[10:28] <tuna__> alo ?
[10:29] <fearthellama> tuna__ hi
[10:29] <Morbid_Angel> Odd ...
[10:29] <K|NgGh0sT> Anyone here ever gotten a DVB-s Card to work?
[10:29] <Morbid_Angel> I just hit "Synchronize Now" and it blanked the screen and set the ubuntu time correctly
[10:29] <tuna__> hi there, i have ubuntu - breezy 5.10. However i cannot install any packages or upgrades because of "unmet dependicies"... what should i do ? please help ..
[10:29] <fearthellama> mirak: r u there?
[10:29] <GeistDerZeit> That's the strange point - using the same Cd-writer device i can write/erase these disks...
[10:29] <gnomefreak> Morbid_Angel: are you using the option to sync the time with servers?
[10:29] <K|NgGh0sT> tuna__, apt-get -f install
[10:30] <mirak> fearthellama: not really
[10:30] <gnomefreak> Morbid_Angel: if so turn it off (im fairly sure thats what fixed it for me
[10:30] <tuna__> K|NgGh0sT, i tried but did not work
[10:30] <fearthellama> kbrooks: if i give u a set of instructions given to me in one sentance do you think you can break them up into multiple sentences?
[10:30] <mirak> fearthellama: anyway if you don't know linux well enough that's probably better you are not root :D
[10:30] <kbrooks> fearthellama: no...
[10:30] <Morbid_Angel> I'll give that a try.  The synch was marked to off
[10:30] <kbrooks> fearthellama: you're expecting me, and only me, to provide information which i cannot provide at the moment
[10:30] <jenda> Hmm.... I'm trying to ping a server that seems to be down. Is there a program that would keep pinging until it was up and notify me then?
[10:30] <redguy> ubotu doesn't write to the channel anymore?
[10:30] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, redguy
[10:31] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: get your brother to give you the password
[10:31] <kbrooks> fearthellama: therefore, i will not answer at all
[10:31] <fearthellama> mirak: i want to be able to install programs.
[10:31] <redguy> :?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: its safer that way
[10:31] <tuna__> hi there, i have ubuntu - breezy 5.10. However i cannot install any packages or upgrades because of "unmet dependicies"... what should i do ? please help ..
[10:31] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: what you are tryign to do is work around it and its not a good idea
[10:31] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: why?
[10:31] <Morbid_Angel> Thanks for the advice.  Cheers!
[10:31] <gnomefreak> tuna__: what does sudo apt-get -f install   give you
[10:31] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: it is the password that he uses for everything.  if he gave it to me he would be giving me access to everything he has a password on
[10:31] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: we dont know him
[10:32] <edgardpacheco> hello people
[10:32] <mirak> fearthellama: you don't need it
[10:32] <edgardpacheco> i think i have removed the gaim icon system tray next to the clock
[10:32] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: if his bro didnt give him access there is normally a reason for it
[10:32] <mirak> fearthellama: do what I told
[10:32] <edgardpacheco> because now when i "close" the gaim messenger, it closes, and i doesn't appear in the system tray
[10:32] <edgardpacheco> !multiverse
[10:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:32] <fearthellama> mirak: after i select edit during the startup what do i do?
[10:32] <edgardpacheco> !gaim
[10:32] <ubotu> somebody said gaim was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto
[10:33] <K|NgGh0sT> argh, why does dvb hate me?
[10:33] <tuna__> gnomefreak , You might want to run apt-get -f install to correct these:
[10:33] <tuna__> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:33] <tuna__>   valknut: Depends: libdc0c2 (< 0.3.7-99) but it is not going to be installed
[10:33] <tuna__>            Depends: libdc0c2 (>= 0.3.7-0) but it is not going to be installed
[10:33] <tuna__>            Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.4) but it is not going to be installed
[10:33] <LadyNikon> umm
[10:33] <gnomefreak> tuna__: use pastebin
[10:33] <stjepan> how to install "Computer" menu in GNOME in Ubuntu?
[10:33] <kbrooks> stjepan: er?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> tuna__: what command did you type?
[10:33] <GeistDerZeit> By the way, it's a good idea to upgrade to Dapper? I'm behind a Breezy. It's just a question of changing repositories sources or there are some subtle caveat?
[10:33] <kbrooks> stjepan: what distro?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> tuna__: there should be no package name after install
[10:33] <mirak> fearthellama: you should just need to boot in safe mode, it will give you a command prompt. Then you can addyourself to sudoers but I don't remember how to do that. Ask someone here
[10:33] <stjepan> kbrooks, ubuntu
[10:34] <bimberi> ubotu tell GeistDerZeit about upgrade
[10:34] <tuna__> gnomefreak, apt-get install valknut
[10:34] <kbrooks> stjepan: i mean warty hoary breezy dapper
[10:34] <vocious> How can i install a game that comes in ".bin" ?
[10:34] <stjepan> kbrooks, SuSE has that menu in GNOME
[10:34] <tuna__> gnomefreak, apt-get -f install valknut
[10:34] <gnomefreak> tuna__: type sudo apt-get -f install
[10:34] <Sanne> GeistDerZeit, Dapper is still beta. I would wait, but it's up to you.
[10:34] <stjepan> kbrooks, dapper
[10:34] <gnomefreak> tuna__: just type that
[10:34] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: any ideas? can u read what mirak said?
[10:34] <gnomefreak> nothing else
[10:34] <ic5> vocious, usually you just execute the bin file
[10:35] <watson540> fearthellama<-- /etc/sudoers
[10:35] <gnomefreak> vocious: sh file.bin  might work
[10:35] <vocious> Thanks
[10:35] <watson540> fearthellama<-- edit that file and add yourself in, you will be able to use whats in there as an example
[10:35] <ic5> vocious, do a chmod +x <filename>.bin; Then ./<filename>.bin
[10:35] <mirak> fearthellama: but they are probably right, the risk is that you break things.
[10:35] <fearthellama> watspm: kk
[10:36] <mirak> I think Linux should handle things more like OS X, where you can install applications for users
[10:36] <fearthellama> mirak: what can i break?
[10:36] <babyboy> hi, does anyone kno what software to use for setting up proxy so i can connect to proxies so EVRYTHING under linux that uses internet goes through proxy?
[10:36] <kbrooks> watson540: please use ':'
[10:36] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: everything as a sudoer
[10:36] <mirak> some application should considered safe enough to be installed by a user
[10:36] <kbrooks> mirak: the appfolders way is flawed
[10:36] <K|NgGh0sT> Anyone here ever gotten a DVB-s Card to work in linux... if so how do I install the drivers?
[10:36] <GeistDerZeit> Ok, i was curious just because of the hype about. I see a lot of people saying they are using Dapper as Desktops already. But thanks for the advice! I'm sticking to Breezy.
[10:36] <redguy> how do you make ubotu to change the factoid? I remeber using ~= or something similar
[10:36] <fearthellama> so basically i have to watch what i type or i might completely fuck up my pc?
[10:36] <mirak> kbrooks: yes, but the wheel group thing is not that bad
[10:36] <kbrooks> mirak: (by design and by implementation)
[10:36] <malegria> @malegria hallo
[10:37] <gnomefreak> redguy: what factoid?
[10:37] <redguy> gnomefreak: the server factoid
[10:37] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: watch your language
[10:37] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: sry didnt know we cant curse. ill remember
[10:37] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: but is that right?
[10:37] <mirak> kbrooks: with OS X when you install an app there is rarely dependencies. I mean, when you install an audio player there is not mysql that want to installs itself, so that's doable
[10:37] <Sanne> GeistDerZeit, wise decision :)
[10:37] <mirak> kbrooks: what is bad in your opinion ?
[10:37] <theSamo> how do you get mp3s to work on gstreamer10
[10:38] <babyboy> anyone know bout proxies ?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> redguy: it looks fine whats wrong with it?
[10:38] <fearthellama> watson540: it said access denied
[10:38] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: i gonna say that its best to get the password from brother
[10:39] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: could i do something so that i dont have to type in the password if he did somin?  cuz i know that my bro won't give me it
[10:39] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: no
[10:40] <watson540> fearthellama: of course, you need root access to edit the sudoers file.
[10:40] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: is it hard to change the password if i could convince my bro to do it?
[10:40] <vocious> Is there any way to change OpenGL settings ? The game i downloaded is lagging and getting stripes.
[10:40] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: if its his pc i dont advise it
[10:41] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: its not. its my families.  my moms in hawaii though so i am on my own untill then, but eventually if it can be done it will be
[10:41] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: thats the joy of parents
[10:41] <K|NgGh0sT> no one has ever installed a dvb card?
[10:43] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: is it hard to change the password to sudo?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: no if you know what your doing
[10:43] <unfo> fearthellama: what is your username?
[10:43] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: pretty sure he does
[10:43] <fearthellama> my user name is matthew
[10:43] <redguy> gnomefreak: so you don't know how to do it, do you?
[10:43] <fearthellama> unfo: y?
[10:44] <fearthellama> unfo: its matthew but y do u want to know?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> redguy: yes i can do it but they are getting strict on what is added and how long it is
[10:44] <mirak> fearthellama: do what I told
[10:44] <Jeff1983> will samba only allow me to access my linux machine from windows? or will it also let me access my windows machine from linux?
[10:44] <unfo> fearthellama: one way to do it is to go to the User Administration control panel and change the password for user: matthew
[10:44] <rest> hi, can i test that my "make" is working ?
[10:44] <unfo> fearthellama: or just start up Terminal and type passwd
[10:44] <unfo> rest: make --version
[10:45] <fearthellama> mirak: you left out the most important part,  how to add me to the sudoers
[10:45] <vocious> Have anyone here tried "PlaneShift" on Ubuntu ? And if you get very laggy screen and black stripes
[10:45] <mirak> fearthellama: I told you I don't know it
[10:45] <unfo> fearthellama: the primary user is always in sudoers.
[10:45] <fearthellama> unfo: that would work if i was the root user
[10:45] <rest> unfo, what is the best make version at the moment ?
[10:45] <fearthellama> unfo: im not
[10:45] <fearthellama> unfo: trying to get myself to be a sudoer
[10:45] <mirak> fearthellama: ok I remember
[10:45] <unfo> rest: GNU Make 3.0 or more is fine.
[10:45] <rest> unfo, i have some problems with compiling perl moduls and i thing its make
[10:45] <fearthellama> mirak: YAY.
[10:46] <unfo> rest: it is almost never ever make's fault.
[10:46] <mirak> fearthellama: you must add yourself to admin group. so you do  "adduser YOURLOGIN admin"
[10:46] <unfo> rest: what is the name of the perl module
[10:46] <rest> unfo, ok you think libaries or something like this ?
[10:46] <mirak> fearthellama: then you reboot
[10:46] <rest> unfo, Data::Validate
[10:46] <gnomefreak> mirak: doesnt he need sudo for that?
[10:46] <Jeff1983> will samba only allow me to access my linux machine from windows? or will it also let me access my windows machine from linux?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> kind of ironic though
[10:46] <unfo> rest: try sudo apt-get install libdata-validate-perl
[10:47] <unfo> Jeff1983: both, if set up correctly.
[10:47] <fearthellama> mirak: ill do that once my bro forgets to log himself off the pc. im not the root user
[10:47] <mirak> gnomefreak: not if he reboot in single user mode
[10:47] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[10:47] <mirak> fearthellama: I told you you just need to reboot in safe mode
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > humz
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > configure: error: You are missing security/pam_modules.h
[10:47] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: your still gonna need the password to use sudo
[10:47] <fearthellama> mirak: even if it said im not added?
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > in what package can I find that header file?
[10:47] <unfo> [Wiebel] : search the error on google.
[10:48] <mirak> fearthellama: do what I told damnit !
[10:48] <unfo> [Wiebel] : or use apt-file
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > oeh
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > apt-file sounds nice
[10:48] <fearthellama> mirak: even if i do wich i will i wont have the password to sudo
[10:48] <unfo> [Wiebel] : sudo apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search pam_modules.h
[10:48] <rest> unfo, hmm not found the package, but strange with apt-get i can install but with make i have problems
[10:48] <gnomefreak> mirak: i wouldnt bother he screws something up (its more trouble than its worth if you ask me)
[10:48] <mirak> fearthellama: it will your password dummy
[10:48] <theSamo> do you guys have MP3s playing on gstreamer 10?
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > unfo: allready done that :)
[10:49] <[Wiebel] > unfo: no hit though
[10:49] <theSamo> i can't get them to do so
[10:49] <fearthellama> mirak: oh lol
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell theSamo about mp3
[10:49] <mirak> fearthellama: it will be your password dummy
[10:49] <unfo> [Wiebel] : thats very strange that no hits.
[10:49] <fearthellama> i typed "adduser matthew admin" and it said "adduser:  Only root may add a user or group to the system
[10:50] <fearthellama> i typed "adduser matthew admin" and it said "adduser:  Only root may add a user or group to the system
[10:50] <[Wiebel] > unfo: google "ubuntu pam_modules.h
[10:50] <[Wiebel] > "
[10:50] <[Wiebel] > gives me nothing useful as wel
[10:50] <rest> unfo, i never had problems with cpan + perl and its a fresh install , strange
[10:50] <hurax> fearthellama: sudo
[10:50] <mirak> gnomefreak: well, I give him the possiblity just because I think it's dumb that a user can't install a simple text editor
[10:50] <unfo> [Wiebel] : no, google configure security/pam_modules.h
[10:51] <aLPHa_LeaK> n8
[10:51] <[Wiebel] > unfo: yeah but i need the ubuntu package with that file :)
[10:51] <fearthellama> hurax: thankyou for trying to help but u havent been listening into the convo so u wouldnt no i dont have access to sudo
[10:51] <pmk> why i cant listen to mp3 files?
[10:51] <K|NgGh0sT> Anyone here ever gotten a DVB-s Card to work in linux... if so how do I install the drivers?
[10:51] <Gibran> Hello, I have two machines running Ubuntu. One has internet access, the other does not. Is there anyway I can get Synaptic to download programs and all the dependices onto a disc that I can use as a repository for my non-internet machine?
[10:51] <fearthellama> mirak: i typed "adduser matthew admin" and it said "adduser:  Only root may add a user or group to the system
[10:51] <hurax> fearthellama: then you need a user who has sudo rights
[10:52] <Spec> Gibran: why not give the second computer internet connectivity?
[10:52] <fearthellama> hurax: i know that. what i am trying to do is find a way to give myself admin and sudo without being the root user. mirak thinks he has a way
[10:52] <octan> is there a way i can turn on|off power save for disks with acpi?
[10:52] <Gibran> Spec: Impossible
[10:52] <Spec> Gibran: how?
[10:52] <unfo> [Wiebel] : ok, did you try apt-file?
[10:52] <fearthellama> mirak: i typed "adduser matthew admin" and it said "adduser:  Only root may add a user or group to the system
[10:52] <Spec> no network card?
[10:52] <[Wiebel] > unfo: uhuh
[10:52] <Gibran> Spec: Cannot physically run a wire to it
[10:53] <babyboy> hi, does anyone kno what software to use for setting up proxy so i can connect to proxies so EVRYTHING under linux that uses internet goes through proxy?
[10:53] <Spec> ah
[10:53] <Spec> well, yes, there is a way...
[10:53] <Spec> i dont' know it though, :-/
[10:53] <fearthellama> mirak: so do i still restart while in safe mode? will it do anything?
[10:53] <hurax> fearthellama: if you have physical access and no bios password set you can boot from cd
[10:53] <Spec> I think you just need the directory structure of an apt repository on a cdrom
[10:53] <unfo> rest: you dont have to use make. install dh-make-perl then go to the directory and type dh-make-perl
[10:53] <fearthellama> hurax: by that you mean...
[10:53] <Spec> err, nix that, there's more than just that
[10:53] <unfo> [Wiebel] : also, try packages.ubuntu.com there should be a Search Inside Contents of Packages tool.
[10:54] <fearthellama> hurax: the simplest of terms for a dude that doesnt no much about pcs and linux
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > let's see
[10:54] <Abountu> how can I have read/write access to NTFS discs to everyone (or this user) at the moment only root can access it, I do $sudo nautilus to be able to browse ntfs drives
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > unfo: bingo
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > :P
[10:54] <kbrooks> fearthellama: seriously, tell us what you REALLYQ want to do, and why you're poring over that
[10:54] <unfo> [Wiebel] : the website search did it?
[10:54] <hurax> if you can boot a live system from cd you have root rights
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > unfo: jup
[10:55] <unfo> [Wiebel] : cool.
[10:55] <vocious> Anyone here with PlaneShift Game installed ?
[10:55] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: if i typed in the rong thing while having access to sudo could i mess up my entire pc?
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > unfo: but why didn't apt-file
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > I wonder
[10:55] <unfo> vocious: is it a linux game?
[10:55] <unfo> [Wiebel] : if you tell me the error message i can tell you why.
[10:55] <fearthellama> kbrooks: i want to install programs like steam and aim and stuff like that
[10:55] <vocious> Linux, windows(?), mac
[10:55] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: yes
[10:55] <hurax> fearthellama: yes, you can
[10:55] <mirak> Abountu: ntfs is bad, prefer samba
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > unfo: I got no error
[10:55] <haary> /list
[10:55] <Gibran> Any ideas Spec?
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > joris@lateralus:~$ apt-file search pam_modules.h
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > joris@lateralus:~$
[10:56] <Abountu> mirak: I don't understand what you mean, ... ntfs is bad for none roots?
[10:56] <MetaMorfoziS> basszameg a kurva let
[10:56] <fearthellama> hurax: if i type in an unknown command while having access to sudo would anything happen?
[10:56] <pmk> why i cant listen to mp3 files?
[10:56] <pmk> how can i watch wmv files on my ubuntu?
[10:56] <[Wiebel] > hmmz, yet another file which doesnt show op
[10:56] <edgardpacheco> pmk: you can install the w32 codecs
[10:56] <[Wiebel] > not on the sit ethis time as wel
[10:56] <Spec> Gibran: yeap, hold on
[10:56] <Gibran> :)
[10:56] <fearthellama> hurax: and as for the cd i think my bro borrowed it from someone
[10:57] <K|NgGh0sT> Wondering if someone could help me install a DVB-S Card?
[10:57] <mirak> Abountu: sorry I though you said NFS
[10:57] <unfo> [Wiebel] : what command line did you type into apt-file?
[10:57] <unfo> [Wiebel] : why do you need one?
[10:57] <hurax> fearthellama: depends, "sudo asdqwejk" would do nothing, "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda" would be very bad...
[10:57] <Abountu> mirak: ah ok! no prob,
[10:57] <kbrooks> fearthellama: why are you worried about it?
[10:57] <[Wiebel] > unfo: I have only my wpa keys in the keyring
[10:57] <unfo> [Wiebel] : so?
[10:57] <hurax> but if your brother installed it you should probably go and ask him
[10:57] <redguy> gnomefreak: ok, I have been speccifically asked by the #ubuntu-server guys not to point people directly to #ubuntu-server but the ubuntu server faq
[10:57] <[Wiebel] > And I would like to login and see it working
[10:57] <unfo> i agree with hurac
[10:57] <[Wiebel] > without entering another password
[10:57] <fearthellama> kbrooks: worried about what? typing a wrong command? its not just my pc.
[10:58] <unfo> *hurax
[10:58] <mirak> fearthellama: what are you waiting for ?
[10:58] <mirak> fearthellama: just do it
[10:58] <kbrooks> fearthellama: worried about installing apps
[10:58] <unfo> [Wiebel] : oh. (shrug)
[10:58] <[Wiebel] > unfo: what? :)
[10:58] <kbrooks> mirak: he is a complete newbie to linux
[10:58] <fearthellama> kbrooks: dont u want to be able to install things on ur pc?
[10:58] <unfo> [Wiebel] : i dont use gnome. i am on debian and i prefer kde.
[10:58] <kbrooks> fearthellama: ITS NOT YOUR PC
[10:58] <[Wiebel] > unfo: hehe ok :P
[10:58] <unfo> :)
[10:59] <fearthellama> kbrooks: i know but if i check what i write then it should be ok
[10:59] <[Wiebel] > I was a KDE guy
[10:59] <redguy> gnomefreak: that's why I want to change the server factoid
[10:59] <mirak> kbrooks: lol, I give him the root acces and it doesn't even know how to do it
[10:59] <[Wiebel] > but I got enough of the looks of it :P
[10:59] <unfo> [Wiebel] : why did you break?
[10:59] <Spec> Gibran: nope :-/
[10:59] <mirak> kbrooks: there is not that much risk in fact
[10:59] <edgardpacheco> guys, which is better, gaim or amsn?
[10:59] <fearthellama> kbrooks: ITS NOT YOURS EITHER!  GIVE ME A WARNING, DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell redguy about you
[10:59] <Spec> Gibran: google wasn't very helpful
[10:59] <mirak> kbrooks: what's problem with OS X app folder ?
[10:59] <[Wiebel] > unfo: I know ;)
[10:59] <Gibran> That was my first port of call
[10:59] <unfo> Spec: what did you type into google?
[10:59] <[Wiebel] > i ran it for a few years :P
[10:59] <unfo> mirak: it lacks apt-get. :)
[10:59] <pmk> edgardpacheco: how is the name of this package?
[10:59] <cute_bettong> um are there playstation and ps2 emulators for ubuntu? or linux?
[11:00] <fearthellama> mirak: even if it said my user wasnt added should i still restart?
[11:00] <fundacite6> fgdfgd
[11:00] <unfo> cute_bettong: pcsx2 is for ps2, its for linux but its extremely slow on my computer.
[11:00] <unfo> cute_bettong: pcsx is one of the many psx ones
[11:00] <cute_bettong> unfo, what are your box specs?
[11:00] <unfo> cute_bettong: celeron 2.4 laptop, 384 ram, horrible built-in video
[11:01] <unfo> cute_bettong: ask in #pcsx2, they all use it
[11:01] <Spec> unfo: several variations of "make" + "apt" + "cdrom" + "repository"
[11:01] <pmk> how can i watch wmv files on my ubuntu?
[11:01] <cute_bettong> unfo, could that be why? or is the emulator its self slow?
[11:01] <Gibran> unfo: I typed in "how to make repository synaptic"
[11:01] <C|int> none of that is offtopic?
[11:01] <unfo> Gibran: what???
[11:01] <unfo> cute_bettong: i think the emulator is a bit slow.
[11:01] <Spec> unfo: he's looking how to set up an apt-repository on a cd-rom
[11:01] <cute_bettong> no becasue that has to do with ubuntu ^_^
[11:02] <jjazz> pmk: Install the w32codecs package.  It's not in the regular repos.  You can google for it.  IIRC, it's in seveas's repo.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: ?
[11:02] <unfo> Gibran: you need apt-zip
[11:02] <unfo> Gibran: it lets you copy any .deb files to a cdrom.
[11:03] <Gibran> That sounds like my problem "Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media."
[11:03] <Gibran> Thank you very much
[11:03] <unfo> Gibran: or consider the ubuntu dvd
[11:03] <unfo> Gibran: its a big download but much easier to use.
[11:04] <Gibran> It is fairly obscure programs I want that are not on the offical repository
[11:04] <Gibran> Thank you
[11:04] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: ?
[11:04] <crazy_penguin> hi
[11:04] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: why was fearthellama +q'd ?
[11:05] <Sceema> hey lover boy
[11:05] <crazy_penguin> can i use more then one server line in ntp.conf?
[11:05] <lover-boy> hey sceema
[11:05] <unfo> rest: it worked?
[11:05] <unfo> crazy_penguin: try it and see.
[11:05] <Hentai_Jeff> so there are ops here :D
[11:05] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: because i set him that way
[11:05] <thefish> crazy_penguin: yeap
[11:05] <crazy_penguin> thx
[11:05] <rest> unfo, no makes error
[11:05] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: be more specific. why died you silence fearthellama
[11:05] <kbrooks> did*
[11:05] <unfo> rest: did you install dh-make-perl
[11:05] <rest> unfo, i installed it know
[11:06] <fearthellama> kbrooks: can u hear me? i am silenced!!!???
[11:06] <unfo> rest: how?
[11:06] <crazy_penguin> one more question: and they will be ciontacted in the order in what i write it in the ntp.conf?
[11:06] <rest> unfo, apt-get
[11:06] <crazy_penguin> err cointacted/contacted
[11:06] <unfo> fearthellama: i hear you fine, youre not silenced.
[11:06] <gnomefreak> ompaul: what way did you do that?
[11:06] <unfo> rest: how? multiverse?
[11:06] <fearthellama> unfo: thats what kbrooks said
[11:06] <rest> i think yes
[11:06] <unfo> rest: good.
[11:07] <BIzz> how can i add a shorcut to my desktop in XFCE?
[11:07] <unfo> BIzz: try drag and drop
[11:07] <PreZWork> whats the channel for testing dapper drake again?
[11:07] <unfo> BIzz: you dont like kde?
[11:07] <unfo> PreZWork: #ubuntu+1
[11:07] <UltraMagnus> hi, does anyone know how to get ebays HTML editor to work in firefox in ubuntu?
[11:07] <Sceema> yo yo ppl of the world
[11:07] <BIzz> not that i dont like it its jus that its too bloated for my 700mhz laptop :-p
[11:07] <rest> unfo, can i replace maybe the "make" things ?
[11:07] <lover-boy> hows every1 here?
[11:07] <unfo> UltraMagnus: ask in #firefox
[11:08] <unfo> rest: what???
[11:08] <UltraMagnus> unfo: thanks
[11:08] <rest> unfo, i mean refreshing or something :)
[11:08] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: read your server tab
[11:08] <peetu> mm
[11:08] <fearthellama> gnomefreak:  huh?
[11:08] <Sceema> testing
[11:08] <peetu> How can i get scandinavian characters work ?
[11:08] <unfo> rest: a newer version of make will DEFINITELY NOT fix the problem.
[11:08] <Abountu> how can I mount a drive using the mount command, and specifying that I need read write access to everyone!
[11:08] <unfo> rest: make errors really are errors in some other program.
[11:08] <rest> unfo, ok
[11:08] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: read your server tab in the chat if on xchat it should say freenode
[11:09] <Sceema> fuck you
[11:09] <BIzz> wow
[11:09] <BIzz> potty mouth!
[11:09] <lover-boy> what was all that about?
[11:09] <fearthellama> gnomefreak i dont see it say freenod anywhere on my screen
[11:09] <gnomefreak> damn your fast ;)
[11:09] <fearthellama> ompaul: y did u kick him?
[11:09] <rest> unfo, unhappy, but what can i do any idea ?
[11:09] <peetu> How can i get scandinavian characters work ?
[11:09] <ompaul> yes - for language
[11:09] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: he banned him
[11:09] <Linoob> 
[11:10] <macsim> hi
[11:10] <gnomefreak> Linoob: english chars only
[11:10] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: banned permanently? or just temporarily?
[11:10] <rest> unfo, the error of ->  dh-make-perl --install : Cannot create deb package
[11:10] <macsim> Where can I found the config from linux-image ?
[11:10] <unfo> rest: i do not use dh-make-perl. but you said you fixed the problem already, right?
[11:10] <rest> unfo, no
[11:11] <unfo> macsim: use the default. it may be in /proc/config.gz
[11:11] <mwe> macsim: /boot I think
[11:11] <ompaul> Linoob, #ubuntu-cn
[11:11] <rest> unfo, i cant install any pms from hand
[11:11] <macsim> unen: mwe ok I look
[11:11] <PwcrLinux-Away> ..
[11:11] <mwe> unfo: I think the default kernel doesn't have /proc/config.gz support
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ummmmm
[11:12] <gnomefreak> i didnt do that lol
[11:12] <macsim> it's in /boot ;) great thanks
[11:12] <mwe> yw
[11:12] <noob> gnomefreak: was he banned permanantly or just temporarily?
[11:12] <macsim> a simple make-kpkg binary will give me all the needed file ?
[11:12] <unfo> macsim: why a new kernel??
[11:12] <macsim> unfo: for add vserver
[11:13] <noob> gnomefreak: mind answering me?
[11:13] <peetu> How can i get scandinavian characters work ?
[11:13] <macsim> unfo: but I wan a proper kernel (the same as linux-image + vserver patch)
[11:13] <unfo> macsim: what is vserver?
[11:13] <macsim> unfo: look on wikipedia ;)
[11:13] <unfo> rest: pms?
[11:13] <unfo> macsim: no
[11:13] <rest> unfo, no it worked, very strange (normal "make")
[11:14] <unfo> :)
[11:14] <rest> unfo, perl moduls
[11:14] <noob> can anyone hear me or is gnomefreak just ignoring me?
[11:14] <unfo> rest: good. so then its not important.
[11:14] <unfo> noob: he may be ignoring you for a reason.
[11:14] <unfo> or just busy.
[11:14] <mwe> peetu: you need to set XkbLayout correctly in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for one thing
[11:14] <redguy> gnomefreak: thanks
[11:14] <peetu> mm
[11:14] <rest> unfo, hmm dont like things like this, the perl script say not found hehe
[11:14] <noob> ya i guess. this sucks not having access to sudo.
[11:14] <redguy> noob: be patient
[11:15] <unfo> rest: i dont understand
[11:15] <noob> redguy: i dont think i need help anymore.  just gotta talk to my bro.
[11:15] <redguy> noob: what is your problem again?
[11:15] <holycow> what is the command for getting the size of a directory via cli?
[11:15] <ompaul> holycow, du -h
[11:15] <gnomefreak> redguy: hes trying to bypass not having sudo
[11:15] <holycow> thx ompaul
[11:16] <ompaul> who is?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> his bro didnt give him the password and i think if anyone helps him they need to do it else where
[11:16] <noob> redguy:  some dude thought he had a way to give me access to sudo without the root user ading me.
[11:16] <rest> unfo, forget it not important :)
[11:17] <redguy> noob: by default, users with admin group membership have access to sudo
[11:17] <redguy> noob: but your problem seems to be that you don't have the password
[11:17] <ompaul> noob, okay that question is a cracking question, so if you ask it again I will be forced to kick you
[11:17] <redguy> noob: is taht right?
[11:17] <noob> ompaul: i wont ask again
[11:18] <unfo> rest: did the perl module install ok?
[11:18] <noob> redguy: ya i guess so
[11:18] <rest> unfo, no :(
[11:18] <noob> ompaul: i do have a q though. if someone is kicked are they banned forever or just temporarily?
[11:19] <unfo> rest: sudo apt-get install libdata-validate-perl
[11:19] <unfo> rest: does that work?
[11:19] <ompaul> noob, that depends
[11:19] <noob> ompaul, on what?
[11:19] <ompaul> noob, and no I am not taking out the slide rule and writing a table
[11:19] <gnomefreak> lol /kick ompaul before he can answer
[11:19] <rest> unfo, not found the package, a other perl lib worked with apt-get
[11:19] <unfo> rest: i am glad.
[11:20] <rest> unfo, hmm
[11:20] <noob> ompaul:  there is a list of offenses and how long kicked for?
[11:20] <unfo> rest: ?
[11:20] <unfo> noob: no. but do not do them. its annoying to try to become unbanned.
[11:20] <rest> unfo, dont know what do to, i think i go to sleep :)
[11:21] <noob> unfo: dont worry.  i wont. when ur a nooby u need to have access to help. if i get banned i am screwed.
[11:21] <Deramin> in Ajunta, is there a way to set a highlighting style as default? AKA, assume I always want to use this (and if there's a better place to ask this question, please tell me)
[11:22] <unfo> rest: good idea. then ask in the forums in the morning.
[11:22] <Spec> sleep: better idea
[11:22] <rest> yes its the plan ;)
[11:22] <noob> alrighty then. im out.
[11:22] <rest> unfo, thank you, bye
[11:22] <rest> bye
[11:23] <express> how do I get GCC installed on my 5.10 breezy machine?
[11:23] <mwe> express: suso apt-get install build-essential
[11:23] <gnomefreak> express: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:23] <express> thanks
[11:23] <Samuli^> express,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:23] <unfo> express: stop
[11:23] <mwe> express: yeah sudo, not suso :)
[11:23] <unfo> express: why do you need gcc?????
[11:23] <mwe> unfo: to compile stuff?
[11:23] <express> to compile things?
[11:23] <Anti`Barca> i have 1 problem ... my  gam_Server is ocuped 300 MB ram
[11:23] <gnomefreak> unfo: to compile things
[11:23] <mwe> heh
[11:23] <Anti`Barca> this is dont normal  !!
[11:24] <Anti`Barca> :((
[11:24] <Samuli^> unfo, to compile stuff.
[11:24] <unfo> express: what do you need to compile that isnt in universe or multiverse???
[11:24] <gnomefreak> unfo: his own program?
[11:24] <express> my own programs?
[11:24] <express> gnomefreak has the idea :D
[11:24] <Samuli^> his own program.
[11:25] <K|NgGh0sT> Wondering if someone could help me install a DVB-S Card?
[11:25] <express> but just for future information, how do I add the universe repository?
[11:25] <unfo> K|NgGh0sT: i am in canada, dvb-s is killed by Digital Restrictions Management here in North America, so I personally cant.
[11:25] <unfo> express: add it now, see if your program is in it.
[11:25] <unfo> express: do you know vim?
[11:25] <express> there's no way my program would be in it, lol.
[11:25] <K|NgGh0sT> unfo, uh no its not
[11:26] <express> i know nano
[11:26] <unfo> express: what program?
[11:26] <express> the programs I write?
[11:26] <Flannel> unfo: hobby programs I suspect.
[11:26] <K|NgGh0sT> unfo, Free to Air is not restricted by any orginization within North America
[11:26] <express> I suppose.
[11:26] <unfo> express: ah. :) anyway edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the 2 pound symbols mentioned. btw you'll need libc6-dev.
[11:26] <express> thanks
[11:27] <Rhine> How do i transfer music from my ipod to my harddrive?
[11:27] <express> libc6-dev was installed with build-essentials i believe
[11:27] <unfo> K|NgGh0sT: i mean real tv, not FTA :)
[11:27] <K|NgGh0sT> Alas, I am refering to FTA, which still requires a DVB card ;)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> express: it was
[11:27] <Deramin> in Anjuta, is there a way to set a highlighting style as default? AKA, assume I always want to use this (and if there's a better place to ask this question, please tell me)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> express: maybe not come to think of it
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Deramin: it should be automatic
[11:28] <express> gnomefreak, it was
[11:28] <express> just checked
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Deramin: if not look in the menu for configure anjuta or prefferences
[11:28] <swadhin> hi
[11:28] <Deramin> gnomefreak: it's not automaticing very well and it's not in preferences, either
[11:28] <express> hey; there was only one line I had to uncomment?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Deramin: give me a sec
[11:29] <swadhin> i have some queries related to tightVNC
[11:29] <swadhin> vncsercer
[11:29] <express> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[11:29] <express> shouldn't there be a line with just deb?
[11:29] <swadhin> could anyone help me out
[11:30] <unfo> swadhin: dont ask to ask. just ask.
[11:30] <unfo> :)
[11:30] <Rhine> How do i transfer my music from my ipod to my harddrive? Anyone know
[11:30] <unfo> express: you must uncomment two lines.
[11:30] <K|NgGh0sT> unfo, so in that case could you help me get the card installed?
[11:30] <unfo> Rhine: apple will hate you if you do :)
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Deramin: go to settings>prefferences ont he editor tab look at top right hand corner it will say disable highlighting make sure its not checked
[11:30] <unfo> K|NgGh0sT: sorry, try #hardware or Google.
[11:30] <Rhine> unfo, ive done it before in windows :P
[11:31] <express> unfo, there was only one line there =/
[11:31] <K|NgGh0sT> spent the last three days on google :(
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Deramin: after that opena  new file and type #hi its me and it should show up blue or red
[11:31] <Deramin> gnomefreak: it's not
[11:31] <eugman> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:31] <eugman> +p any ideas?
[11:31] <unfo> express: so add an identical deb line.
[11:31] <Zeus`> automatix replaced my repositioris list, I restarted, and I now I had to install 144 updates?
[11:31] <Zeus`> what the hell
[11:32] <unfo> eugman: what software are you trying to run?
[11:32] <unfo> !automatix
[11:32] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[11:32] <svdp12> I need help installing Cedega. I just downloaded it and went throught he installation instructions on the website, but it says it can't install because I need superuser privlages
[11:32] <Zeus`> I want to stream line my system!
[11:32] <Deramin> gnomefreak: I can force highlighting just fine, but the default is currently set to automatic, and I want it default to C++
[11:32] <eugman> A game called N.
[11:32] <unfo> Rhine: how?
[11:32] <unfo> eugman: website?
[11:32] <Rhine> I used Winamp's plugin ml_ipod
[11:33] <unfo> express: is gcc compiling your thing ok?
[11:33] <Zeus`> unfo: Ive already installed the 144 updates
[11:33] <unfo> Zeus`: sorry :(
[11:34] <eugman> Hmmmm, It seems I need to do some looking to find the exact spot where I got the download.
[11:34] <Zeus`> Christ... how do I maka sure whats on here is supposed to be on here?
[11:35] <unfo> Zeus`: you can't, you used automatix. :(
[11:35] <sybariten> trying to make a mutt package with ssl support here ...   so i am dwelving into the dpkg area. dpkg-buildpackage complained about unmet dependencies... or unmet build dependencies to be exact. Any way i can make it fetch what it needs ?
[11:35] <Zeus`> CAn i get rid of everything on ubunut
[11:35] <unfo> sybariten: sudo apt-get build-dep mutt
[11:35] <Zeus`> without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[11:36] <unfo> Zeus`: check the automatix faq maybe
[11:36] <kbrooks> Zeus`: not really
[11:36] <eugman> http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/downloads.html
[11:36] <zack> im trying to install wine on ubuntu for my 64bit pc, i have downloaded the files but the command "sudo apt-get --build source wine" gives me a complier error. any suggestions?
[11:36] <sybariten> unfo: what does that do? i already got the source with apt-get source mutt ... and i have added some option in the debian/rules file
[11:36] <Zeus`> where is the repositories file?
[11:36] <unfo> sybariten: type this: sudo apt-get build-dep mutt
[11:37] <PPC_xubuntu> Errrrr... could anyone give me a hand in getting the G3-iMac i just threw Xubuntu-(dapper) to dual boot OS9? On x86 i'd know , but /this/ fdsik -l output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14189 is a bit, errrr, confusing. yaboot, anyone?
[11:37] <sybariten> ah, let me guess, it will only show what i will need to build it, or something like this
[11:37] <sybariten> s/this/that
[11:37] <Flannel> Zeus`: if you check the wiki, you can get a virgin sources.list
[11:37] <gnomefreak> sybariten: it will install everything you need to build it
[11:37] <gnomefreak> almost everything
[11:37] <sybariten> gnomefreak: oh..?!
[11:38] <unfo> who was looking for ipod help again?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> sybariten: sudo apt-get build-dep <package> installs the dependencies to build the app
[11:38] <sybariten> holy crap! after installing, 46 megs will be used
[11:38] <Knowledge_> when's the next version comming out?...august right?
[11:38] <Zeus`> how do I check how much space is left on my ubuntu partition?
[11:38] <sybariten> well well, a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do
[11:38] <Spec> Zeus`: df -h
[11:38] <gnomefreak> sybariten: you still need build-essential if you use checkinstall you will need that too
[11:38] <Flannel> Knowledge_: June 1
[11:38] <unfo> oh, it was rhine. he left
[11:38] <sybariten> gnomefreak: ok, you learn stuff about apt every day almost
[11:38] <unfo> Zeus`: df -h /
[11:39] <gnomefreak> sybariten: why dont you just install mutt?
[11:39] <jhenn> would ubuntu run good on a 366mhz?
[11:39] <Knowledge_> Flannel: woah, I was wayy off.
[11:39] <Knowledge_> Flannel: Thank you.
[11:39] <gnomefreak> Knowledge_: 2weeks
[11:39] <sybariten> gnomefreak: isnt build-essential the general gcc compilers and such ?
[11:39] <sybariten> gnomefreak: well, i did from a package, turns out that version is witout ssl support. which is odd.
[11:39] <zack> ya, i had to look up the password thing becuase that was giving me trouble
[11:39] <zack> oops
[11:39] <gnomefreak> build-essential is a bunch of things/tools needed to build compile apps
[11:40] <zack> im trying to install wine on ubuntu for my 64bit pc, i have downloaded the files but the command "sudo apt-get --build source wine" gives me a complier error. any suggestions?
[11:40] <unfo> jhenn: use fvwm2
[11:40] <mirak> unfo: there is apt-get on os x with fink. There is even gentoo's emerge
[11:40] <sybariten> gnomefreak: yeah, and i should already have those i believe ... i have already "made" som tools
[11:40] <Jowi> where can i change the "locale" settings? "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" set /etc/environment correctly, but when typing "locale" command, LANG is empty and all the LC_... say "POSIX" instead of "en_GB.UTF-8"
[11:40] <Knowledge_> I wonder if the Shipit CDs will be available right away
[11:40] <gnomefreak> Knowledge_: not yet
[11:40] <unfo> mirak: fink isnt that good. yes, darwinports is better.
[11:40] <gnomefreak> Knowledge_: by the end of the month (should)
[11:40] <mirak> unfo: fink is apt-get
[11:40] <gnomefreak> Knowledge_: but they wont send them until after release
[11:41] <unfo> i heard fink is not perfect.
[11:41] <sybariten> the new packages that will be installed for me are among others the following: debconf-utils debhelper gettext groff html2text intltool-debian libdb4.3-dev libgcj-common libgcj6
[11:41] <Knowledge_> gnomefreak: I see, thanks for the info.
[11:41] <unfo> sybariten: ok
[11:41] <Knowledge_> I really need to get back into linux.
[11:41] <Knowledge_> I'm sick of using Windows and OSx
[11:41] <mirak> unfo: I didn't tried it much. Just a bit. They probably are right
[11:41] <unfo> Knowledge_: so buy a Mac. :)
[11:41] <unfo> Knowledge_: then install Ubuntu.
[11:41] <sybariten> please dont
[11:42] <sybariten> thats what i have done
[11:42] <unfo> sybariten: and?
[11:42] <Sanne> zack, without the compile error it is very hard to guess what could be wrong... you can paste the error to paste.ubuntu-nl.org.
[11:42] <sybariten> unfo: and, macs suck.
[11:42] <sybariten> reeeaaaal bad.
[11:42] <Knowledge_> unfo: I'm currently running OSx on my Dell. I don't think they make Ubuntu for the intel macs yet do they?
[11:42] <unfo> sybariten: mac warranty and tech support is superb.
[11:42] <unfo> Knowledge_: ask in channel #ubuntu+1
[11:42] <unfo> Knowledge_: i doubt it
[11:43] <NoUse> Knowledge_ x86 ubuntu will run with bootcamp
[11:43] <sybariten> unfo: yeah, i wonder how much they care about warranty and support if you have installed something other than their beloved aqua themed OS
[11:43] <PVZ> how can I change the language on Gimp?
[11:43] <gpfreitas> Hi everybody. Ekiga problem: people that call me cannot hear my voice; when I call them, they can. I am running Foresight Linux, not Ubuntu (in my Ubuntu installation everything is working fine!), sorry for posting this here.
[11:43] <unfo> gpfreitas: ask in ##linux
[11:43] <gpfreitas> thanks unfo
[11:46] <unfo> sybariten: warranty should be fine. support? no.
[11:46] <Sanne> PVZ, I believe Gimp uses the language setting of your system. I remember changing it by starting Gimp from a terminal where I had set the language environment variable to a different language.
[11:46] <eugman> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:46] <eugman> http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/downloads.html
[11:46] <unfo> eugman: hmm
[11:46] <Sanne> PVZ, trying it now, sec
[11:47] <PVZ> Sanne, ok
[11:47] <eugman> Now, I tried running the windows version in wine but the keys are unresponsive.
[11:47] <Seantater> Hey -- is ubuntuforums.org down?
[11:47] <Zeus`> yeah im having some trouble accesing it
[11:47] <cjacob> hello?
[11:48] <Seantater> I can't even ping it..
[11:48] <Linoob> does this look like a PCI bus number 0000:01:0a.0??
[11:48] <cjacob> is this where i can get help with dapper?
[11:48] <nickrud> cjacob, no, #ubuntu+1
[11:48] <Samuli^>  #ubuntu+1
[11:48] <cjacob> kk
[11:48] <cjacob> thanks
[11:49] <nickrud> and, sun java is in the repos for dapper, I can retire an xchat auto-replace soon :)
[11:50] <unfo> eugman: try this maybe: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[11:50] <eugman> I apparently have the newest version.
[11:50] <eugman> Have you tried running it?
[11:51] <matsur> any one know of precompiled amd64 amarok 1.4 debs?
[11:51] <Sanne> PVZ, hrmph, doesn't work now. But you can try: type 'locale' in a terminal to see the several language variables and what they are set to. Then try to set some of them to your desired locale by typing for example 'export LC_MESSAGES=de_DE.UTF-8', then type 'gimp' to start gimp.
[11:51] <unfo> matsur: are they in multiverse?
[11:51] <cjacob>  is there a way to create a user acount in the terminal with administrator privliges (ie, can create other user accounts/update/ and use synaptic?)
[11:51] <DaSkreech> Where did kalimoto-miracle- lemon.ogg come from?
[11:51] <unfo> cjacob: you need to add them to sudoers.
[11:51] <cjacob> ?
[11:51] <cjacob> sorry im a noob
[11:52] <nickrud> cjacob, sudo adduser <username> admin
[11:52] <cjacob> kk
[11:52] <matsur> unfo, nope, 1.3.8 is the latest but i need 1.4 for AAC support
[11:52] <Kyoske> hey nickrud
[11:52] <nickrud> cjacob, that gives the user sudo privileges
[11:52] <nickrud> Kyoske, hi
[11:52] <Kyoske> have u heard i got ubuntu working
[11:52] <cjacob> thanks
[11:52] <crimsun> matsur: read the topic of #kubuntu
[11:52] <cjacob> how do i get there in the first place?
[11:52] <cjacob> root?
[11:52] <nickrud> Kyoske, good. You were in a bad, bad place last I saw
[11:52] <DaSkreech> Oh
[11:53] <PVZ> Sanne, thank you very much,i'll try it now
[11:53] <Kyoske> im in ubuntu right now, i just need to figure out how to customize
[11:53] <DaSkreech> Where did kalimoto-miracle- lemon.ogg get donated from?
[11:53] <NoUse> cjacob the first user that ubuntu creates has sudo privledges
[11:53] <Sanne> PVZ, you're welcome.
[11:53] <unfo> eugman: try: sudo apt-get install libstdc++.*libc
[11:53] <nickrud> Kyoske, that is a never ending process. Start with System-Preferences
[11:53] <express> anyway i can apt-get lighttpd on breezy?
[11:54] <Kyoske> kk
[11:54] <unfo> express: maybe in multiverse
[11:54] <express> k i'll give that a try
[11:54] <Kyoske> but right now i need to do something with my friend
[11:54] <eugman> Perfect, unfo. THanks a bunch.
[11:54] <gahan> i'm using gnome and my iso8859-2 fonts are displayed properly in every application, how come i can't type them? instead i see some weirds characters
[11:55] <zack> im recieving this error " checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: e rror: C compiler cannot create executables" what could be the problem?
[11:55] <matsur> is there any way of installing packages for dapper on breezy?
[11:55] <krang> I was just wondering if anyone could recommend to me what to use if I want to set up a server that hosts home directories for remote users (obviously restricting access) sorry if it's obvious, I'm not too seasoned yet. I assume NFS alone doesn't have the functionality
[11:55] <NoUse> !tell zack about b-e
[11:56] <unfo> zack: amd64?
[11:56] <Jowi> where can i change the "locale" settings? "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" set /etc/environment correctly, but when typing "locale" command, LANG is empty and all the LC_... say "POSIX" instead of "en_GB.UTF-8"
[11:56] <zack> unfo, yes
[11:56] <zack> nouse, im pretty sure those are installed
[11:56] <svdp12> I was wondering if anyone could help me. I'm trying to install cedega, but when I try It tells me superuser privelages are required. Does anyone know how I can fix this problem?
[11:56] <PVZ> Sanne, and is there a way of making Gimp start as the selected language?
[11:56] <nickrud> matsur, yes, you can use apt-pinning. Not easy or recommended
[11:56] <unfo> zack: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:56] <PVZ> like changing the shortcut configuration on the panel?
[11:57] <zack> unfo, "build-essential is already the newest version."
[11:57] <unfo> zack: i cant help you. i use Debian 32bit. try google maybe?
[11:57] <Sanne> PVZ, only the way I told you (which I maybe not remember correctly). But basically you would do it like this, or you could write a shell script with those commands and start gimp via that.
[11:57] <express> doesn't look like its coming up in multiverse :( lighttpd is really popular too as an apache alternative
[11:58] <express> to add multiverse you just append it to the two universe linse in sources.list right?
[11:58] <unfo> express: its in dapper universe. packages.ubuntu.com/lighttpd
[11:58] <PVZ> Sanne, ok, I don't know how do do a shell script anyway.
[11:58] <salah> hi. is there any plugin for firefox to play mp3 files in the browser?
[11:58] <unfo> express: why do you need lighttpd though?
[11:59] <unfo> PVZ: its easy.
[11:59] <kbrooks> pvz: its very ez
[11:59] <NoUse> salah mozilla-mplayer
[11:59] <Sanne> PVZ, did you succeed with the typing in a terminal? If yes, I could help you with the shell script.
[11:59] <salah> NoUse: thank you :)