[12:03] DaSkreech: also a good point [12:03] you are right on both [12:04] guess it is a bit late for the current release, but it should definitely be fixed === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:04] Well there is a few weeks [12:05] Riddell still hides? [12:05] Riddell, if you want, rank it down as well [12:05] DaSkreech: hehe, freeze was quite a while ago === DaSkreech frowns [12:06] So Who is in charge? [12:08] DaSkreech: dude, it is not a matter of who is charge but how much time there is left [12:08] kwwii: Well since the time for Dapper is none I guess it doesn't matter :) [12:09] So I want to work with someone to get some polish in for Edgy [12:09] (ironically) [12:09] DaSkreech: it does matter, but it is not realizable for this release, I would guess [12:09] Since it should have an edge :-) [12:09] DaSkreech: definitely [12:09] So anyone have an idea how hard it is to get enter to work? [12:10] DaSkreech: everything you said has a good basis [12:10] dude, those are bugs, straight up and down [12:10] enter them [12:10] Ah Launchpad? [12:10] they should get a higher status as they are probably important [12:10] yepp [12:11] apachelogger: hmm? [12:11] Riddell: amaroK 1.4 is out - see mail - and we submitted a news to the dot :) [12:12] apachelogger: am just about to publish it [12:12] hoooray :D [12:12] Riddell, include that bugfix then :) === pygi does "please" once again :) [12:12] hey apachelogger, whats up? :) [12:12] apachelogger: you missed some trademarks in that announcement [12:12] (sarcasm) [12:13] the usual, releasing software and then get hell drunken ;-) [12:13] Riddell: always the problem :S [12:13] apachelogger, we can celebrate once gst engine is "up to par" with other engines :) [12:13] pygi: I did === apachelogger thinks about dropping that stuff actually [12:13] Riddell, o nice, very thanks :) [12:13] apachelogger: please do, there's no need to acknowledge trademarks unless you're trading [12:13] yep [12:14] pygi: but I didn't change the version number [12:14] I actually wonder why we added them :S [12:15] apachelogger: now on http://dot.kde.org/ [12:15] awesome [12:16] gonna get you some karma boost in #amarok ;-) [12:16] argh, we really need to start working on that gst engine :( === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:26] hi Riddell [12:26] bon soir [12:27] Riddell: is it fine to you to sync desktop files from svn for adept so we have translated ones? [12:28] that's what happens each time we do an adept upload [12:28] each time we sync with svn yes === jjesse [n=jjesse@c-24-11-53-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] but we're not to do it again before release, are we? [12:29] I think we will, it's not at 2.0 yet [12:30] hmm ok then [12:30] if that's sure then fine [12:34] night all [12:34] sleep well, I know I will [12:34] night kwwii [12:34] meeting at 8am tomorrow [12:34] lucky, you can sleep :) [12:34] :-) [12:35] but only till 7am :-( [12:35] :( [12:35] I am not a morning person [12:35] anyway [12:35] see you tomorrow [12:35] anyway, good night and tommorow :) [12:35] bye === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [12:37] night [12:37] 3.5.2 is the version of kde being shipped in 6.06/ [12:37] ? [12:42] sure [12:45] raphink: is that a sure directed to me? [12:45] sure [12:45] :) [12:46] grin === Taya [n=taya@adsl-212-72-134-11.sanet.ge] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [12:59] jjesse: yes === imbrandon [n=Brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-003-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=Brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-015-248.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.49.251] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-67-83.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:20] ri [06:20] hello , Riddell === imbrandon_ [n=Brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-227-144.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall|mx [n=mornfall@201.160.20.139.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=marseill@AMarseille-256-1-42-151.w90-0.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:46] oh goody, new amarok release... [09:47] ...and to think I /just/ installed beta 3 yesterday. [09:49] hehe [10:00] ah, now I see what \sh was quibbling over. silly xine-lib refuses to reread ~/.asoundrc === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.231.40] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:33] anyone else here having problems w/ amaroK 1.4 and the mood bar... amaroK crashing? [10:34] abattoir: mood bar? [10:34] Hobbsee: its disabled by default [10:34] go to configure amarok [10:34] general options-> components [10:34] give me a min... [10:34] suddenly discovered a lack of sound [10:34] its just eye-candy i guess, nothing particularly useful... [10:35] but still :) [10:36] choose "Use moods", then right click on the playlist columns and enable moodbar [10:36] uh oh...this doesnt sound good... [10:37] what doesnt sound good? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:38] wha??? [10:38] E: I wasn't able to locate file for the kubuntu-default-settings package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. [10:38] E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root? [10:38] i was playing around with kmix yesterday... [10:38] apt-get? [10:39] doesnt have a reinstall command [10:40] Riddell: packages/amarok-latest dosen't point to 1.4 [10:44] hmm "xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers" [10:45] installed gdb now, this is the backtrace [10:45] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/724206 [10:46] should i file a bug @ launchpad? [10:46] does anyone have amarok looking like http://www2.duffus.org/tmp/amarok.png ? (right panel partly hidden) does the same full screen 1280x1024 [10:48] seaLne : nope, its pretty normal for me [10:48] strange [10:49] are you using xine for play back? just wondering if its only me that can't get that to work [10:49] yes [10:49] and apart from crashing it played? [10:49] what happens when you close the playlist view? [10:49] same on all views === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:50] even when none of them are displayed huh? [10:50] seaLne: hi [10:50] how do you get none? [10:50] just click on the active tab [10:50] freeflying: lo [10:50] abattoir: okay, sound's back. [10:50] Hobbsee: nice :) [10:50] i think [10:50] abattoir: ah :) yeah looks ok then [10:50] now click on it again [10:51] does it look the same? [10:51] yeah that fixed it [10:51] good :) [10:51] strange tho [10:51] looks fine when restarted aswell [10:52] maybe its the packaging ;) [10:52] abattoir: right, so how do i test this mood thing? [10:52] but that was the least of my worries with xine engine not working, maybe my sound got broken some way at the same time [10:52] have you enabled it in the playlist window? [10:53] seaLne: the latest review of behindubuntu( translated int ochinese) still not be published [10:53] abattoir: i think so [10:53] Hobbsee: it generally occurs when a song becomes 'heavy' or there is a change in the song [10:55] abattoir: right.... [10:55] Hobbsee: it crashes? [10:55] no, but i may not be trying to reproduce correctly [10:56] hah, there it goes again... [10:56] freeflying: yeah tell me about it, looking at end of next week for french and german translations, apparently saying to them that the interview was ready to be translated wasn't enough of a hint to them to actually translate it *grumble* [10:56] this time i got an error output... wait a sec [10:58] "*** WARNING: Recoverable frame level error in file /media/hda6/Music/My Music/Soad/System Of A Down- Inner Vision.mp3 (lost synchronization) [10:58] amarok: MakeMood: Done processing. Stoping...amarok: amaroK is crashing..." [10:58] abattoir, what you broke again? :) [10:59] pygi: yes... again :( [10:59] can you believe it? [10:59] the world is so cruel :'( [11:00] especially when there is no amaroK ;) [11:00] whats wrong with amarok this time? [11:00] *this* time? it crashes... always... i think it is the moodbar [11:01] indeed :P [11:02] ok, let me check it out on my 32-bit system... [11:02] brb === Taya [n=taya@217.147.227.2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Taya [n=taya@217.147.227.2] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-67-83.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:16] gotta love keyboard input randomly stopping working... [11:16] Hobbsee: X problem ? [11:16] OdyX: dunno. and you were right, btw [11:16] Hobbsee: I do get something like that sometimes... [11:17] "right" - about ? [11:17] your email? [11:18] ugh, amaroK is almost 20MB now? === Taya [n=taya@217.147.227.2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:01] okay...repeat after me..."i will not play with ndiswrapper" [12:01] :P [12:02] Hobbsee: does it have a tune? ;) [12:02] hehe === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:03] Hobbsee: did not understand what you did... [12:03] OdyX: hmm? with the bug closing? [12:04] No.... asking for my mail.. [12:04] :-? [12:05] OdyX: it was you who emailed me earlier, or i've confused my IRC names with launchpad ones? [12:05] seems... [12:05] I did not e-mail you... [12:05] well... I don't have enough things to say you.. :-P [12:07] oh, okay then... [12:10] hmpf... love stories [12:13] raphink: hmm? [12:14] [12:03] Hobbsee: did not understand what you did... [12:14] [12:04] No.... asking for my mail.. [12:14] [12:04] :-? [12:14] [12:05] seems... [12:14] [12:05] I did not e-mail you... [12:14] [12:05] well... I don't have enough things to say you.. :-P === Hobbsee thwaps raphink. [12:14] you could keep your love talks in private :) [12:15] ;) [12:15] raphink: grrr. i've had enough of that today already, thanks! [12:15] oh :( [12:16] what's wrong Hobbsee? [12:16] nothing major. [12:16] ok [12:18] raphink: had my chem lecturer saying (again) that i was in love with the guy i was working with...grrr.... [12:18] :( === poningru [n=poningru@ip24-250-224-132.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:21] actually, no, the fact of the matter is that the three of us *like* working together, and it gets done quicker, so we dont want to split, thanks :P [12:22] sure that's good :) [12:22] hehe [12:26] raphink: i'm sorry.. [12:27] Hobbsee: what for? [12:27] raphink: how i reacted above [12:27] oh it's ok :) [12:27] my fault [12:28] anyway [12:28] going to visit an apartment in a few minutes [12:28] have fun :) [12:29] thanks === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:53] Hobbsee: around? [12:53] freeflying: yes [12:53] Hobbsee: would you like test knode for me, I've patched it for CJK support [12:54] Hobbsee: I wanna know if it can work with non-cjklocales [12:54] um...doesnt that install lots of stuff all over the system? [12:54] Hobbsee: needn't just knode [12:55] OdyX: you're right... === Hobbsee got confused. again. === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Woo! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLinuxTag2006 || Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUbiquity || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meetings in #ubuntu-meeting -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- Next meeting is 22/05/06 2100 UTC [12:58] yay! [12:58] cool, kubuntu's shipit [12:59] freeflying: can i say no? im really phased out here, not up to testing much :P [12:59] Hobbsee: okey,heh === OdyX [n=Didier@80.33.64.8] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:02] Riddell: no ppc edition? [01:03] freeflying: seems not [01:04] Riddell: any pictures of the CD cover? [01:04] I don't think that's final yet [01:05] I don't have the artwork [01:05] it's a big gear image last I saw it === OdyX just mention his DVD Cover. :-P [01:06] kwwii: nice job with the usplash, btw...looks much better! [01:06] Well... the usplash has some "halo" [01:06] background not totally black [01:07] yes, so i noticed... [01:07] Hobbsee: which one? [01:07] But... don't understand... [01:07] Riddell: the usplash? the one that just came out... [01:07] We change kdm splash from white to blue and usplash from blue to white... [01:07] hehe [01:08] Well. Not bad, but curious [01:10] the moodbar problem doesnt occur w/ i386.... but the combobox for the various 'make moodier' themes is disabled... weird [01:13] Hobbsee: that usplash isn't by kwwii, it's a random usplash that someone uploaded and I'm about to revert [01:13] Riddell: oh. pity, it looks quite nice.. [01:14] except for the extra blue square bit... [01:15] Riddell: is this possible ? [01:15] I mean.. somebody randomly uploading things to main ? [01:15] OdyX: sure. the right people. in fact, it shoudl be fairly easy to see who did it... [01:16] and send Ubuntu Armed Forces at home. [01:18] OdyX: yes, anyone with main uploads can upload anything to main [01:18] Riddell: OK. Sill bad to do without "owner" permissions [01:19] so Armed Forces is good solution, huh ? [01:19] ;-P === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:29] Riddell: can the shipit site be localised? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip24-250-224-132.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] freeflying: it's part of launchpad, I suspect it can't [01:42] Riddell: printing works :) [01:43] woo! === MidMark [n=MidMark@host-84-220-99-34.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:43] cheer :) [01:43] hi, [01:43] Riddell ping, I've some others ubiquity bug, can I tkae you 10 mins? [01:43] Hobbsee: great news :) [01:43] Riddell: this is to my network printer, on an IP address [01:44] MidMark: go ahead [01:46] ok, installer crashes after copying all files at step 7 with in return_to_autopartitioning nextText = get_string("continue", lang) + " >" NameError: global name 'lang' is not defined [01:46] fill a bug? [01:47] this with daily cd-18/5 [01:47] hmm, it seems to have started calling return_to_autopartitioning randomly === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:47] s/lang/self.lang/ silly me [01:48] this bug occurs after trying to access to internet to update but without network it stops with an error, then crashes [01:50] anything else? [01:50] another bug in my opinion is: when with manual partitioning I have to choose the mount points [01:51] that's kind of the meaning of manual :) [01:51] no sorry [01:51] wait I have wrong, no bug [01:52] this one -> I have partitioned the second hdd with ext3 [01:52] but after done it in the summary it say unknow filesystem [01:52] don't know why [01:53] sounds like qtparted being unhelpful [01:53] third possible bug is: [01:54] I had a fat32 hdd with 1 gb of data, I have erased all partitions and make 3 partitions, after done that and applied all, ubiquity still say the occupation of 1 GB [01:54] is it correct? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:56] shouldn't happen [01:57] ok, I have to fill 3 bugs for these? [01:58] please do [01:59] ok! [02:02] which splash is being used? [02:02] hi Riddell && kwwii [02:03] hi raphink [02:03] :) [02:03] Riddell: one more thing i noticed in Ubiquity... initially(during partitioning) it says only 1.5G is needed for the root partition... but later it doesnt work, asks for more...nothing big... just noticed :) [02:04] hi raphink [02:04] Hobbsee: lol [02:05] Bug #45396 [02:05] Malone bug 45396 in ubiquity "ubiquity crashes after copied all files to hdd" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/45396 [02:10] abattoir: should be fixed, it didnt' take into account /boot and other directories [02:11] Bug #45397 [02:11] Malone bug 45397 in ubiquity "after set a partition to ext3 in the summary it says Unknown fs" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/45397 [02:11] Riddell: ok, thanks :) [02:14] #45398 [02:14] bug #45398 [02:14] Malone bug 45398 in ubiquity "with a non-empty fat32 hard disk, after delete the partition it still says that it's non-empty" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/45398 [02:15] Done! [02:22] does done mean fixed? [02:23] Riddell: have you gone over the release notes lately are they up to speed? [02:23] I havn't [02:23] Done means for me reported :) [02:23] does it still call ubiquity espresso? [02:23] i'll check [02:25] release notes in both build and trunk call it ubquity [02:27] groovy === kasina [n=kennedy@196.200.37.114] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall|mx [n=mornfall@201.160.20.136.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:03] kwwii: your splash is being used [03:03] whey [03:03] whew [03:04] not that we start a big discussion and want to vote on it :-) [03:05] kwwii: are you going to do the example content package today? uploads are restricted after today [03:06] kwwii: hehe, lets vote anyway, where we dont have quorum :P [03:06] under the idea of "practice voting" - to see if we can all agree on somethign :P [03:06] hehe [03:07] Riddell: yeah, I guess I could do that...been working like crazy on the ubuntu usplash stuff === kwwii is now part of the ubuntu-art community [03:07] kwwii: congratulations! [03:07] 20-30 emails a day will do that [03:08] kwwii: I don't know what happening with the ubuntu usplash, I was talking about the kubuntu one [03:08] Riddell: yeah, that is why I got scared [03:08] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Usplash/DapperPropositions [03:09] they are having a major discussion on the mailing list as well [03:10] Riddell: I should just add the two or three files that I have to the existing package? [03:10] oh my goodness.... [03:10] kwwii: just think about how people would whine if *this* was the new splash... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Usplash/YetAnotherUsplashArtworkProposal?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=usplash-2.jpg [03:10] well, one of them is an update on an existing file, but you get my point [03:10] lol [03:11] kwwii: yes, and make sure they get installed [03:11] I like the baby blue kubuntu ones :-) [03:11] Riddell: ok, I'll probably have one two questions...will you be around later? [03:12] hehe, stupid question, you are always around [03:13] hehe [03:14] he lives here :P [03:14] kwwii: yep [03:14] cool === kwwii picks up his wife and son, goes shopping for dinner and then builds debs [03:15] be back in a bit === Riddell watches dholbach rebuild all of KDE [03:18] that sounds like something fun to do [03:19] oh, that his him that I hear screaming [03:19] Riddell: what's up with the music in example-content? [03:20] Riddell: why is it there? is it some kind of official ubuntu music? [03:20] kwwii: no idea, I remember heno talking about a south african band he wanted in [03:21] heh, nasty...so he is rebuilding it all now... [03:29] one more quesiton before I leave.... [03:30] I reinstalled (my third kubuntu install!) [03:30] now how do I get a development environement up without doing it package per package again? [03:30] sudo apt-get install build-essential [03:30] sudo apt-get build-dep kdelibs-dev kdebase-dev [03:30] killer, thanks [03:31] will taht install pbuilder as well? [03:31] not that i recall [03:31] kwwii: i think you have to do it separately [03:31] Hobbsee: cool, thanks [03:32] kwwii: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto if you havent already seen it [03:32] seeing as you have to configure it :P [03:32] yeah, I did that once before :-) [03:32] ah yes - i keep my config files now - works far better... [03:33] every time I voyage into the internals of a debian system I get a little scared :-) [03:33] hehe, good idea [03:33] I should have kept my home as well :-) [03:34] Riddell: erm, apt-get says it cannot find source packages for kdelibs-dev, is that normal? [03:35] kwwii: you need the deb-src lines uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list [03:35] kwwii: did you use ubiquity to install? [03:35] gotcha [03:35] kwwii: no, that's not normal, and no, it shouldnt be happening... [03:35] Riddell: yes [03:35] kwwii: excellent [03:38] holy shit [03:39] I have everything in sources.list uncommented except the "Major bug fix updates produced after the final release..." === Firetech [n=Jocke@h78n2fls311o1100.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:39] should I uncomment that as well? [03:39] Riddell: can you reproduce that? [03:39] kwwii: no [03:39] dude, installing without a network is the biggest mistake I ever made [03:40] hehe === Hobbsee reproduces the lack of source for kdelibs-dev, but can get the binary... [03:41] kwwii: sudo apt-get update ? [03:41] yeah, I'll try that [03:41] ah, my fault, kdelibs4-dev not kdelibs-dev [03:42] hrm, it wants to install like every dev package known to man [03:42] 130 of them [03:43] hehe [03:43] yeah, rather like that :P [03:43] kdelibs has a lot of build dependencies [03:43] why do you need it, anyway? [03:44] I just want to learn how to build a deb :-) === Hobbsee doesnt have kdelibs4-dev installed. [03:44] I was getting soft working for suse...they make it too easy [03:44] hehe [03:44] seen the ubuntu packaging guide? [03:45] well, after erasing my home dir I lost all my bookmarks, so not for a while :-) [03:45] url? [03:45] you're kidding...why'd you do that?? [03:45] I reinstalled without thinking [03:46] made a backup of my files, but not any .* dirs [03:46] kwwii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources and http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html [03:46] ouch.... [03:47] next time I partition my mac, I will make a /home [03:47] hehe... [03:47] Hobbsee: thanks :-) [03:47] kwwii: not a problem [03:48] kwwii: if there are problems with the second guide, poke laser_jock, in -motu, who wrote the thing... [03:48] :-) [03:49] in fact, poke him with a flaming torch and a pitchfork to tell him he did a good job with it :P [03:53] I'll do that if I am not banging my head against the wall in a couple of hours [03:53] kwwii: no need for that :P ask for help either here, or in -motu [03:53] #ubuntu-motu 's probably better, as there are more people [03:53] oh, I will...don't worry :-) [03:53] hehe [03:54]