[12:00] <PVZ> ok
[12:00] <unfo> salah: did it work?
[12:00] <PVZ> if you want to help me,I'd glat.
[12:00] <PVZ> glad*
[12:00] <PVZ> I'd be glad*
[12:00] <unfo> salah: do you even have mp3 playing capability in mplayer?
[12:00] <Sanne> PVZ, or maybe try to ask the people in #gimp about the language setting problem, they might give better advice than me.
[12:01] <pulento> gyjghj
[12:01] <unfo> zack: any luck?
[12:01] <matsur> nickrud, ok, I'll stay away. Is dapper now stable enough to use day-to-day?
[12:01] <unfo> matsur: so don't use AAC. :)
[12:01] <PVZ> Sanne, I'd prefer to learn how to do a shell script
[12:01] <unfo> matsur: yes.
[12:01] <nickrud> matsur, I'm not gonna say yes, but I am currently
[12:01] <matsur> unfo, 3 gb of music begs to differ ;)
[12:01] <zack> unfo, i found another tutorial that someone linked who said they had a amd64 so im looking at that, except its for gentoo
[12:01] <PwcrLinux-Away> Pls lv a msg to /msg memoserv send PwcrLinux-Away <msg>.
[12:01] <unfo> PVZ: there are good tutorials on google.
[12:01] <salah> unfo, im on way fixing it :)
[12:02] <unfo> matsur: i bet sox can convert it.
[12:02] <salah> unfo; yes I can play mp3s
[12:02] <unfo> matsur: *bet* not sure.
[12:02] <unfo> salah: good.
[12:02] <PVZ> unfo, ok,i'm going to look for it
[12:02] <unfo> zack: no, a gentoo tutorial wont cut it.
[12:02] <PVZ> thank you guys very much
[12:02] <salah> unfo, firefox is already using a plugin to play mp3, but I can't get it removed.. that player is very useless
[12:02] <zack> unfo, oh well im kinda in a rut then
[12:02] <unfo> zack: remember, if you were using normal ubuntu you wouldn'tve had this problem :)
[12:02] <unfo> salah: which plugin?
[12:03] <zack> unfo, yes i considered reinstalling with a normal ubuntu disc
[12:03] <salah> unfo, well, that's my problem, if I knew which plugin it was, I would uninstalled it.. any idea where to find out?
[12:03] <unfo> zack: so why didnt you? :)
[12:03] <unfo> salah: go to this website:
[12:03] <unfo> salah: about:plugins
[12:03] <GaiaX11> Why is that i can play sounds in xmms and all my sound system is ok. But in totem i cannot hear anything? But it runs the .avi file?
[12:03] <MisterN> n8
[12:03] <zack> unfo, i have a laptop with it on there but i couldnt get very far with that
[12:04] <unfo> zack: y not?
[12:04] <zack> unfo, i couldnt figure out how to apply the wine-wow patch
[12:04] <ice60> can anyone get to ubuntuforum? i need to see a thread
[12:04] <GaiaX11> Have i missed any sound codec for .avi?
[12:04] <mustard5> GaiaX11, could be that the totem volume control is turned down?
[12:05] <unfo> zack: use standard 32bit ubuntu.
[12:05] <zack> unfo, i am on my laptop which is right beside me
[12:05] <GaiaX11> No, it is in his full
[12:05] <Sanne> PVZ, you write a text file, put #!/bin/sh as the first line, put any shell command after that you want to be run. Give this file a name you like and put it somewhere in your path, like /usr/local/bin. Then make it executable and call it by it's name from anywhere. Bingo :)
[12:05] <nickrud> salah, what program is running your mp3s?
[12:05] <megaman123> how do i access a mounted drive (ntfs - 2nd harddrive) ? its already mounted
[12:05] <unfo> zack: so?
[12:05] <Sanne> PVZ, I paste you an example, sec
[12:05] <zack> unfo, how would i apply a patch file to wine?
[12:05] <ice60> can anyone get to post #3 in this thread? - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128891
[12:06] <unfo> zack: patch -p0 < filename.patch
[12:06] <unfo> or -p1 sometimes.
[12:06] <zack> unfo, do i have to be in the directory that the patch is in? or the directory wine is in? or should the patch be in the wine directory?
[12:06] <GaiaX11> Any help?
[12:06] <unfo> zack: the directory wine is in
[12:06] <NoUse> megaman123 edit the entry in /etc/fstab, to the options section add uid=<youruser>,umask=0007
[12:07] <unfo> GaiaX11: if nobody helps you then ask in the forums instead.
[12:07] <salah> nickrud, totem is the default player for mp3s
[12:07] <zack> unfo, does the patch need to be there? and how do i find that directory of wine?
[12:07] <unfo> zack: wherever you untarred to.
[12:07] <GaiaX11> Ok!
[12:07] <zack> i used synaptic to install it
[12:07] <mustard5> GaiaX11, good luck :)
[12:07] <GaiaX11> Could you point me there?
[12:08] <megaman123> NoUse: do i have to restart after that ? (sorry new to linux - used to windows)
[12:08] <outlawcrook> Weeeee got the wireless card working WEEEEE !!!
[12:08] <mustard5> Gacoment, http://ubuntuforums.org
[12:08] <unfo> GaiaX11: http://ubuntu.com/support
[12:08] <unfo> GaiaX11: what mustard5 said
[12:08] <Gacoment> ?_?
[12:08] <mustard5> doh...wrong username
[12:08] <mustard5> sorry
[12:08] <GaiaX11> Thanks
[12:08] <zack> unfo, where would it be if i used synaptic to install it
[12:08] <Sanne> PVZ, example: starting blender binary from blender.org from a custom location with some command line args already set, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14190
[12:08] <unfo> zack: you cannot install it with synaptic.
[12:08] <unfo> zack: do: apt-get source wine
[12:09] <NoUse> megaman123 umount and remount it
[12:09] <unfo> megaman123: or reboot, if that doesnt work :)
[12:09] <matsur> upgrading to dapper is just changing all "brrezy"s to "dapper" in sources.list and then dist-upgrade right?
[12:09] <Arrick> unfo,  yes you can if your run the easysource repos
[12:09] <cjacob> how do i create a home directory for a new user?
[12:09] <Arrick> hi all
[12:09] <zack> unfo, i got a message saying unable to find a source package for wine
[12:09] <Sanne> PVZ, this script itself resides in /usr/local/bin and can be called with it's name.
[12:09] <Arrick> did you add it to your repos zack
[12:09] <megaman123> NoUse: how ? whats the command ? for mounting
[12:09] <Arrick> !easysource
[12:09] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:10] <unfo> !easyubuntu
[12:10] <ubotu> I heard easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[12:10] <autosuggested> megaman123: What's the name of the direcotry you want to unmount?
[12:10] <nickrud> salah, if you're on breezy, you probably will have to remove the libtotem* files from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[12:10] <autosuggested> *directory
[12:10] <PVZ> Sanne, let me try it
[12:10] <zack> arrick, yes i did
[12:10] <unfo> salah: wait
[12:10] <cjacob> how do i create a home directory?
[12:10] <Xbox_guru> hello, can I download the latestest java version, on the download page it says linux_i586, instead of i_386.
[12:10] <Arrick> what up texan? evening padna nickrud, :^)
[12:10] <unfo> cjacob: type cd and press enter. youre now in your home dir.
[12:10] <PVZ> Sanne, thank you very much again,that is much more help than i ever expected to receive on IRC
[12:10] <megaman123> autosuggest: its my second drive, ntfs hdb 1 and 2
[12:10] <nickrud> Arrick, how are you?
[12:11] <cjacob> when trying to login, error screen says that the home directory appears to be non-existant
[12:11] <unfo> Arrick: >yes you can if your run the easysource repos< what?
[12:11] <NoUse> megaman123 run 'mount' to see where they are mounted
[12:11] <Arrick> great nickrud i installed my winserv2003 on my server
[12:11] <Arrick> you can install wine with wynaptic
[12:11] <NoUse> megaman123 then 'sudo umount /mount/point' to umount from that location
[12:11] <Arrick> synaptic
[12:11] <autosuggested> megaman123: Emmm, where are you mounting it? To which directory? What's the line in /etc/fstab ?
[12:11] <unfo> Arrick: he needs source to apply a patch.
[12:11] <kbrooks> Arrick: LOL wynaptic is funny
[12:11] <Arrick> oh ok
[12:12] <Arrick> haha
[12:12] <unfo> Arrick: any clue?
[12:12] <Arrick> nickrud, you know how hard I tried to get my all in one printer ot function all the way in ubuntu? thats why I went to that server os
[12:12] <Arrick> yeah
[12:12] <megaman123> fstab: /dev/hdb1 /mdeia/hdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[12:12] <PVZ> Sanne, I cant save the file into /usr/local/bin
[12:12] <outlawcrook> Can someone tell me how to get the top bar to give me both icons for my wired and my wireless connection
[12:12] <outlawcrook> ????
[12:12] <Sanne> PVZ, well, it's just the principle of simple shell scripting. For more, just try to find some tutorials, search for "bash shell scripting" or similar.
[12:12] <megaman123> but i unmounted it already
[12:13] <zack> unfo, i found in /usr/lib/ there is a wine folder
[12:13] <Arrick> unfo, he needs to get the sourses from easysource, and then he can allpy all he needs for wine
[12:13] <autosuggested> megaman123: Then just type "mount -a"
[12:13] <eric_polegato> how would i go about installing plugins, say for viewing videos embedded in websites etc
[12:13] <unfo> zack: you need sources. ask arrick.
[12:13] <Arrick> he has them
[12:13] <autosuggested> megaman123: Sorry, "sudo mount -a"
[12:13] <Sanne> PVZ, you need to save it with sudo. Start your editor with sudo. or save the file now to your home dir and copy it over with sudo.
[12:13] <unfo> Arrick: in /usr/lib????
[12:13] <nickrud> eric_polegato, install mozilla-mplayer
[12:13] <Arrick> no
[12:13] <eric_polegato> thanks.
[12:14] <PVZ> Sanne, yes,thank you
[12:14] <Stormx2> You know what ubuntu should do? "Introduce a friend to ubuntu linux weekend"
[12:14] <zack> arrick then where?
[12:14] <unfo> Stormx2: they have those, its called an InstallFest. :)
[12:14] <NoUse> megaman123 oh, so to remount just type 'sudo mount /dev/hdax'
[12:14] <outlawcrook> and to pick the wireless or wired connection by itself also
[12:14] <NoUse> megaman123 whatever the actual dev name is
[12:14] <Stormx2> unfo: Really?
[12:14] <Arrick> zack get the sources from the easysource link above and add them to /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:14] <Stormx2> unfo: Sounds too nerdy :
[12:14] <unfo> Stormx2: yes. what city are you in?
[12:14] <outlawcrook> for what ever is there to use
[12:14] <megaman123> well sudo mount -a mounted them again
[12:15] <zack> arick, add the link to /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:15] <Stormx2> unfo: A town called Newbury in england, Near Reading and Winchester
[12:15] <Arrick> outlawcrook, they fight each other, choose one or the other at a time
[12:15] <Arrick> no
[12:15] <Rhine> I am trying to use Gtkpod to transfer my music from my ipod to my harddrive but i cannot write to the disk how do i become user permanently for that disk?
[12:15] <megaman123> how do i change to it from console ?
[12:15] <autosuggested> megaman123: Yup, "sudo mount -a" mounts everything you've specified in /etc/fstab
[12:15] <outlawcrook> o ok so that is why i cant get it
[12:15] <outlawcrook> K thanks
[12:15] <Arrick> zack post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[12:15] <NoUse> megaman123 what are you trying to change now?
[12:15] <Samuli^> Rhine, try your /home folder
[12:15] <unfo> Stormx2: do a google search for: newbury OR reading OR winchester LUG OR "Linux * Group"
[12:15] <Arrick> I'll change it so you can install
[12:15] <PVZ> Sanne, one last question,this one more stupid than any other,how do I copy the file on terminal?
[12:15] <megaman123> im trying to access it from console
[12:16] <unfo> Stormx2: or ask your local university if they have a computer club, or search for UKUUG
[12:16] <zack> arrick, whats pastebin?
[12:16] <autosuggested> Stormx2: Vodafone City!!
[12:16] <megaman123> but when i write cd hdb2 i get no such file or directory
[12:16] <unfo> zack: /msg ubotu pastebin
[12:16] <NoUse> megaman123 you need to give the full path
[12:16] <Stormx2> autosuggested: Indeed XD
[12:16] <Tinse> what does 'chmod to 775' mean ? ... it's in a guide but I dont understand :(
[12:16] <NoUse> cd /media/hdb2
[12:16] <Arrick> zack you are using breezy right?
[12:16] <unfo> Tinse: sudo chmod 775 filename
[12:16] <zack> arrick, yes
[12:16] <Stormx2> my local university XD
[12:16] <unfo> Tinse: really, sudo chmod 775 THISISTHEFILENAME
[12:16] <Tinse> allright thanks :)
[12:17] <Sanne> PVZ, no stupid question, we've all been there sometime :). The command is 'cp', type: sudo cp your_file /usr/local/bin
[12:17] <unfo> Tinse: np. tell us if it worked.
[12:17] <Stormx2> like the somewhat sober students at reading uni would listen to a guy looking for a linux user group ;)
[12:17] <Arrick> zack what country you in?
[12:17] <Arrick> two letter
[12:17] <zack> arrick, usa
[12:17] <Arrick> ok
[12:17] <Tinse> unfo, will do :)
[12:17] <Rhine> Samuli^, The harddrive with the home folder isnt large enough to hold all my music, so im trying to move it to the larger one it is partioned and is the /boot/ but it wont let me write to it
[12:17] <Karim> Hola mi amigo's :)
[12:17] <unfo> Tinse: i recommend a book on learning Unix. there are some in every used bookstore and library.
[12:18] <Samuli^> Rhine, that's not a good idea.
[12:18] <unfo> Karim: hola
[12:18] <megaman123> NoUse: i have the drives mounted but how can access them from console?
[12:18] <PVZ> Sanne, what does "sudo: must be setuid root
[12:18] <PVZ> " mean?
[12:18] <Samuli^> Rhine, mount it to somewhere else than /boot
[12:18] <PVZ> sorry for that everyone.
[12:18] <NoUse> megaman123 you have to use the full path: cd /media/hdb2
[12:18] <unfo> PVZ: what was the command?
[12:18] <autosuggested> Stormx2: http://www.sclug.org.uk/
[12:18] <doctormo> trouble setting up network when computer starts
[12:18] <eric_polegato> where could i download mozilla m-player
[12:18] <Arrick> zack once you paste it, put the link in here
[12:18] <eric_polegato> synaptic?
[12:18] <PVZ> sudo cp gimp /usr/local/bin
[12:18] <megaman123> NoUse: yaaa :) thanks
[12:18] <zack> arrick, ok hold on a min
[12:18] <NoUse> megaman123 sure
[12:19] <TheInternet> Hey, I have a problem with my wireless card. Ever since I recompiled the kernel, I had an issue with my wireless card not being found, and this error of SIOCSIFADDR not being found.
[12:19] <nickrud> eric_polegato, yes. If it's not there, you need to enable the multiverse repository
[12:19] <megaman123> NoUse: why dont i have write permission to them ??
[12:19] <unfo> PVZ: you need to install the gimp package
[12:19] <Sanne> PVZ, oh. That doesn't sound good. I don't know. This sounds as if there's something wrong with your sudo. Can anybody help please?
[12:19] <unfo> TheInternet: so use your old kernel instead. :)
[12:19] <NoUse> megaman123 because Microsoft won't tell us how NTFS works
[12:19] <TheInternet> Its the same on all the kernels.
[12:19] <Arrick> NoUse, it works like this, Not Too Fine System
[12:19] <NoUse> Arrick hehe yeah
[12:20] <megaman123> NoUse: really !!!! so u can not write on ntfs partitions ???
[12:20] <unfo> TheInternet: i use debian so i can't help you with that.
[12:20] <Sanne> PVZ, oh!! Don't name your shell script the same as a program you already have, like gimp. Call it something else.
[12:20] <PVZ> if I try sudo su,the same problem happens
[12:20] <NoUse> megaman123 no
[12:20] <unfo> megaman123: correct. it's unreliable.
[12:20] <PVZ> Sanne, haha sure.
[12:20] <megaman123> NoUse: wow ...
[12:20] <nickrud> PVZ, ls -l /usr/bin/sudo should look similar to -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root 93332 2006-01-09 04:41 /usr/bin/sudo ; note -rws that it begins with
[12:20] <Arrick> megaman123, only if you use nfs shares ( NoUse )
[12:20] <Samuli^> megaman123, you can, but it's still in development. Better off not to enable that.
[12:20] <Stormx2> autosuggested: Do you really think they'd accept a 15 year old there? :
[12:20] <unfo> nickrud: a suid root shell script???
[12:20] <unfo> Stormx2: lugs accept all ages.
[12:20] <NoUse> megaman123 if you want to share date between windows and linux, you should create a fat32 parition, linux can write to that
[12:20] <nickrud> unfo, that's what it shows here, :)
[12:21] <Arrick> yep
[12:21] <autosuggested> Stormx2: God knows, it's probably full of beardy old Unix admins!
[12:21] <unfo> nickrud: what's in it again?
[12:21] <Stormx2> autosuggested: my thoughts exactly
[12:21] <eric_polegato> nickrud, anything else you think i should need for that sort of thing?
[12:21] <TheInternet> Well, it's odd, cause I unistalled the custom kernel, but I still have the issue with my card not being detected.
[12:21] <nickrud> unfo, of course, some other comments have rendered my point moot, I think
[12:21] <MrRio> Should Linux distros have standard CD autorun capabilities?
[12:21] <Rhine> Samuli^, I changed it to /Music but the permission is still denied how can i give permission permantly?
[12:21] <unfo> Stormx2: also, try meetup.com, they take younger ppl. not sure if theres a meetup.co.uk though.
[12:21] <autosuggested> Stormx2: Never know unless you go...
[12:21] <Sanne> PVZ, please do what nickrud says to fix your sudo.
[12:22] <raptros-v76> MrRio: you mean the install disks?
[12:22] <||arifaX> hi, how can I delete a file in nautilus without using the trash?
[12:22] <Zeus`> how do I get a list of all programs currently installed on Ubuntu? And how can I remove them? IE like add/remove programs list in Wndows?
[12:22] <zack> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14191
[12:22] <Samuli^> Rhine, you need to edit your fstab.
[12:22] <PVZ> nickrud, i didn't understand it.I am new to (and ignorant about) ubuntu
[12:22] <unfo> MrRio: some do, some dont.
[12:22] <TheInternet> Does anyone know what SIOCSIFADDR is even?
[12:22] <Samuli^> Rhine, is a ext3 partition or what?
[12:22] <unfo> TheInternet: google for it.
[12:22] <Rhine> Oh ok i think i know how to that down
[12:22] <Rhine> yes it is
[12:23] <Stormx2> Zeus`: You want synaptic package manager
[12:23] <MrRio> raptros-v76, Software/game discs. Devs could stick a .autorun file on there, with a link to an icon and have it launch when Mr.Bloggs sticks in his copy of Quake5
[12:23] <zack> arrick, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14191
[12:23] <Stormx2> Zeus`: That'll list stuff which you havn't compiled yourself
[12:23] <MrRio> raptros-v76, for example
[12:23] <Samuli^> Rhine, then you need to chmod the permissions.
[12:23] <nickrud> PVZ, ls -l /usr/bin/sudo gives a long listing of that file. It begins with the permissions that file has
[12:23] <PVZ> nickrud, if I do "ls -l /usr/bin/sudo,it says file or directory not found.
[12:23] <unfo> Rhine: why not $HOME/music instead?
[12:23] <Samuli^> and perhaps chown yourself as owner.
[12:23] <Rhine> I can do that?
[12:23] <Rhine> >.<
[12:23] <Reon> how can I check what chipset eth0 is using ?
[12:23] <megaman123> NoUse: ok...np for now...and what if i want to connect to a shared dirve on my network..is there are a way to make this permenant when system boots?
[12:23] <unfo> Reon: maybe lspci or lsmod
[12:23] <Samuli^> Rhine, yeah. Might be a good idea to mount it to your /home/
[12:23] <unfo> Reon: or lshw
[12:24] <Rhine> Would that let me write with out editing fstab?
[12:24] <unfo> Rhine: yes, if you have the free disk space on your Ubuntu partition.
[12:24] <Samuli^> rhine, I think there's no permission options for ext3 in fstab anyways.
[12:24] <nickrud> PVZ, did you do a server install?
[12:24] <thatfunkymunki> megaman123, edit FSTAB
[12:24] <Rhine> Should i do extended 2 then
[12:24] <thatfunkymunki> using nfs or whatnot
[12:24] <thatfunkymunki> or smbfs
[12:25] <Samuli^> unfo, err.. he's mounting another partition so space on root doesn't really matter.
[12:25] <nickrud> PVZ, try this: apt-cache policy sudo
[12:25] <zack> Arrick, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14191
[12:25] <unfo> Samuli^: oops, ok
[12:25] <Samuli^> Rhine, no.. Just chmod the permissions.
[12:25] <PVZ> nickrud, you are (and Sanne, and everyone else is) going to find it funny,but...
[12:25] <nickrud> PVZ, does it show sudo as Installed ?
[12:25] <Arrick> yeah Im working on it right now zack
[12:25] <zack> arrick, ok
[12:25] <Samuli^> Rhine, first off.. try to mount it into /home/music for example.
[12:25] <PVZ> no
[12:26] <unfo> PVZ: odd!
[12:26] <PVZ> nickrud, you are (and Sanne, and everyone else is) going to find it funny,but...
[12:26] <PVZ> when i tried to save the shell script to /usr/local/bin on graphic mode...
[12:26] <Rhine> Samuli^, Yep im changing the path at this moment
[12:26] <Reon> unfo, nope. I have tow onboard controllers and I need to know which one is eth0
[12:26] <MrRio> I think some kind of standard for autorun would be a good idea, need to write up some spec so gnome and kde can implement it. It would need to detect things like Kodak Pictures CD's, a disc full of music or an .autofile which describes what to do when the disc is inserted
[12:26] <Samuli^> Rhine, yup.. see if you get rights to it that way.
[12:26] <PVZ> i did a chmod on -R /usr
[12:26] <Reon> unfo, nope. I have 2 onboard controllers and I need to know which one is eth0
[12:26] <PVZ> and this is the funny part,i did chmod -sw
[12:26] <PVZ> does it mean anything?
[12:27] <Stormx2> Damnit! On startup, I need to make a terminal window open, and for it to run a command. How do I do this?
[12:27] <unfo> ompaul: many people dont know to use google.
[12:27] <nickrud> PVZ, if it does, you're screwed :)
[12:27] <sybariten> i just got an error from a make (of some sort) that it couldnt find SSL library. I have added an ssl switch to the compile instructions manually. But i do have installed openssl, via apt-get. Any place you know i should look for paths?
[12:27] <Stormx2> whenever I try -x or whatever in gnome-terminal, it just opens real quick then closes
[12:27] <raptros-v76> MrRio: yeah, i see what you mean.
[12:27] <ompaul> unfo, we don't tell people to do that we look it up :-) or leave it
[12:27] <PVZ> nickrud, i agree :)
[12:27] <sybariten> its mutt that im trying to make btw, and i'm using dpkg-buildpackage
[12:27] <NoUse> sybariten have you installed the ssl dev package?
[12:27] <unfo> ompaul: i hear
[12:27] <MrRio> raptros-v76: we're halfway there with the 'Removable Drives and Media'
[12:27] <sybariten> NoUse: ah, no, i think not.
[12:27] <ompaul> unfo, thats how we get distro karma ++ ;-)
[12:28] <MrRio> under prefrences
[12:28] <sybariten> NoUse: so thats something i am gonna need?
[12:28] <NoUse> sybariten libssl-dev
[12:28] <raptros-v76> MrRio: yeah. i was about to say the same thing.
[12:28] <unfo> ompaul: i use debian. i think google is a key skill.
[12:28] <NoUse> sybariten if you are compiling, yes
[12:28] <nickrud> PVZ, do ls -l /usr/bin/gnome-terminal , do you get any output at all?
[12:28] <ompaul> unfo, a saying l left behing is, "If only there was a way to search the internet." :-)
[12:28] <ompaul> s/behing/behind
[12:28] <sybariten> NoUse: ah ok...  any idea what it may be called?
[12:28] <thatfunkymunki> :p
[12:28] <PVZ> nickrud, yes
[12:28] <Rhine> Stormx2, go System>Preferences> Session and add a startup
[12:28] <NoUse> sybariten libssl-dev
[12:28] <PVZ> should i paste it here?
[12:29] <ompaul> PVZ, NO
[12:29] <nickrud> PVZ, paste that one line, please
[12:29] <unfo> Reon: did lshw do it?
[12:29] <unfo> !pastebin
[12:29] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[12:29] <PVZ> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 259056 2005-09-09 13:58 /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[12:29] <sybariten> NoUse: ok thanks! so it has no connection namewise to openssl ?
[12:29] <Stormx2> Rhine: 1) I don't know the command to make it run in terminal 2) Adding the command alone doesn't work
[12:29] <Arrick> zack, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   delete everything in it, and paste the text from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14192 into it, then hit ctrl+o to save it, and then ctrl+x to exit, then type sudo apt-get update
[12:29] <ompaul> PVZ, sorry I thought you had more than two lines
[12:29] <Rhine> What are you trying to run?
[12:29] <PVZ> ompaul, i wouldnt even ask to paste it if i had :)
[12:29] <NoUse> sybariten I don't think so
[12:29] <ompaul> PVZ, ;-)
[12:29] <unfo> ompaul: i dont get it
[12:30] <nickrud> PVZ, ok, it should be -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 266564 2006-04-10 04:31 /usr/bin/gnome-terminal .
[12:30] <Reon> unfo, yes it tells you if it is eth0 or 1
[12:30] <nickrud> PVZ, not the -rwx it starts with
[12:30] <raptros-v76> MrRio: i mean, audio disks in gnome get opened in a cd playing program already,
[12:30] <unfo> Reon: good.
[12:30] <ompaul> unfo, that expression - I used to say it, and it might dawn in people what they could look up :)
[12:30] <zack> arrick ok im working on that
[12:30] <Stormx2> Rhine: A java server my friend made. It stays running, the command doesn't end until I ctrl + c. The command is cd /media/Win98/MooJava/classes && java runTWOServer
[12:30] <Reon> unfo, thanks
[12:30] <nickrud> PVZ, sudo ls <-- does that work
[12:30] <PVZ> nickrud, yeah,the only difference is the RWX that should be there
[12:30] <PVZ> nickrud, no
[12:31] <nickrud> PVZ, you have a root account?
[12:31] <CentralDogma> can someone help me?
[12:31] <NoUse> !helpme
[12:31] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[12:31] <ompaul> PVZ, does >>sudo id<< return anything?
[12:31] <Rhine> Some one with more experience probably knows the answer :/
[12:31] <PVZ> ompaul, nothing with sudo returns anything but...
[12:31] <PVZ> must be setuid root
[12:31] <nickrud> PVZ, and ompaul knows much more about this than I do
[12:32] <PVZ> nickrud, i only login as root in recovery mode
[12:32] <sybariten> if i have started one compile session that borked out for some reason, to i need to "flush" anthyihg before i try again, or does *nix clean up its traces pretty much itself?
[12:32] <sybariten> s/to/do
[12:32] <zack> pvz "sudo su -"
[12:32] <PVZ> zack, nothing
[12:32] <unfo> Reon: np :)
[12:32] <PVZ> same output
[12:32] <ompaul> PVZ, do id and tell me what the first number you get is
[12:33] <zack> pvz, when you type that as a command it should log you in as root without a password, try su -
[12:33] <PVZ> ompaul, the 1st number is 1000
[12:33] <nickrud> zack, his sudo doesn't work
[12:33] <zack> nickrud, oh
[12:33] <Rhine> Samuli^, When i do /home/Music it doesn't make it that it will make it "none". Dunno know if i mentioned this but they are two different Hard Drives ill just try the chmod :/
[12:34] <PVZ> zack, when i try SU without the sudo i always get "authentication failure"
[12:34] <ompaul> PVZ, I don't want to ask this but, you are rather stuck, have you used some software to try and install stuff like codecs and such like?
[12:34] <Arrick> nickrud, do we know yet if hes signed in as root, that seems to be a common thing now adays
[12:34] <ompaul> Arrick, he ain't his uid is 1000
[12:34] <Rhine> How do i use the chmod command?
[12:34] <PVZ> ompaul, no,i always install things on synaptic or downloading them and then using dpkg.
[12:34] <Arrick> ok
[12:35] <nickrud> PVZ if I was in your shoes, I'd reboot into recovery mode , do chmod -R u+x /usr && chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo . It will fix some of your issues, but probably there's some hidden gotchas yet.
[12:35] <ompaul> nickrud, wait up a sec
[12:35] <Arrick> ok, im gonna go read for a bit, hey zack anyone in here can help you with the rest of the install (even some with minimal knowledge) since I have even less than most in here
[12:35] <PVZ> nickrud, let me write that down
[12:35] <raptros-v76> use a rescue disk
[12:35] <sybariten> Rhine: you could do 'chmod 777 somefile' for instance, and that would make the file open for most things yuou can think of
[12:35] <nickrud> ompaul, did you see where he chmodded -r on usr?
[12:36] <zack> arrick ok
[12:36] <ompaul> nickrud, no
[12:36] <nickrud> ompaul, er, did you see where he chmodded -w on usr?
[12:36] <ompaul> nickrud, still no
[12:36] <Rhine> Its said Operation Not permitted sybariten
[12:36] <nickrud> ompaul, and I'm gonna shut up. I typed wrong again. I should have stuck with and ompaul knows much more about this than I do
[12:37] <ompaul> nickrud, if he did that then you were not too far off the mark
[12:37] <raptros-v76> use a bootable cd
[12:37] <Rhine> Nvm i just added Sudo to it thanks sybariten
[12:37] <ompaul> thats the best idea yet
[12:38] <ompaul> PVZ, got a live cd?
[12:38] <PVZ> ompaul, yes,but it's 5.04
[12:38] <PVZ> and i'm running breezy
[12:38] <raptros-v76> any disk will do, as long as it has the basic programs
[12:39] <ompaul> PVZ, two good things 1 its a readable file system 2 chmod works as long as you mount the drive
[12:39] <charly88> wenas a todos
[12:39] <Samuli^> rhine, it's a bit tricky.. in numerical the first number means owner, second owners group and third 'others'
[12:39] <ompaul> what language was that?
[12:39] <unfo> ompaul: maybe strace sudo would help them?
[12:39] <Samuli^> Rhine, and the numbers are 1 write, 2 read and 4 execute then you just add them up like you want.
[12:39] <mcquaid> i use xfce, and i can't set the capture level through it's mixer,  i thought it was a problem with their mixer but then installed alsamixergui and have the same problem
[12:40] <PVZ> i dont know about the wenas,but "a todos" can be either spanish or portuguese
[12:40] <mcquaid> but i can set it via the ncurses alsamixer
[12:40] <PVZ> most likely spanish
[12:40] <Samuli^> Rhine, for example 777 means everyone has all rights (read, write and execute)
[12:40] <ompaul> unfo, no if he did chmod -w /usr he did some nasty damage
[12:40] <unfo> ompaul: oh.
[12:40] <ompaul> PVZ, got a lot of disk space?
[12:40] <esaulo> hola a todos
[12:40] <unfo> hola
[12:40] <ompaul> !es
[12:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:41] <PVZ> ompaul, almost 20GB
[12:41] <nickrud> ompaul, looking back, it was actually -R -ws on user
[12:41] <ompaul> PVZ, dsl?
[12:41] <esaulo> hi how are you?
[12:41] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:41] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:41] <PVZ> ompaul, yes
[12:41] <ompaul> PVZ, and here is where I hope against hope
[12:41] <PVZ> nickrud, it was -sw
[12:42] <ompaul> PVZ,  have you a seperate home partition
[12:42] <nickrud> PVZ, bad either way :)
[12:42] <outlawcrook> ok thus should be easy but i cant get it to work
[12:42] <PVZ> yes
[12:42] <nickrud> lol
[12:42] <outlawcrook> how can i get this to play a DVD
[12:42] <wasp_ems> hi...i have two problems..one is with konqueror that is crashing all the time and freezes..one error i get is it crashed and caused the signal 11(SIGSEGV)..ANY HELP?
[12:42] <esaulo> bueno como nadie quiere conversar hay luego
[12:42] <koroded> is there a quake3 deb for ubuntu?
[12:42] <esaulo> bye
[12:42] <stickys> poll.    what would be your prefered programing editor?  mainly for java coding.
[12:43] <PVZ> nickrud, bad either way,but differently bad :)
[12:43] <Seantater> How about kdevelop, or kate, or kwrite?
[12:43] <raptros-v76> netbeans for java. anjuta for c, c++. spe for python
[12:43] <ompaul> PVZ, okay you have a couple of options you could try to undo the damage with the reverse command but .... there is always that doubt in the back of ones mind that something gets permissions it should not have
[12:43] <Rhine> !tell rhine about Mp3
[12:44] <udk> !tell udk about Mp3
[12:44] <PVZ> ompaul, what if i login in recovery mode as root and simply do a chmod -R +sw?
[12:44] <udk> hah
[12:44] <ompaul> PVZ, so here is what I personally would do, boot 5.04 download a 5.10 install CD backup your /var/cache/apt/archive directory
[12:44] <outlawcrook> i have tried ogle and totem but still want plat dvd
[12:44] <outlawcrook> any idea what to do
[12:44] <raptros-v76> you need libdvdcss
[12:45] <PVZ> ompaul, i have the 5.10 install CD
[12:45] <ompaul> PVZ, burn it and try your luck with the command and then .. if not happy just install the OS
[12:45] <raptros-v76> !tell outlawcrook about libdvdcss
[12:45] <PVZ> ompaul, what is in the /var/cache/apt/archive directory?
[12:45] <ompaul> PVZ, there is always that one file that should have funny permissions - and it bites
[12:45] <Tonren> hey guys, how do I update a package that I've already installed?  amaroK 1.4 just came out .
[12:46] <ompaul> PVZ, this is a rather clean install (I had a disk blow up on me eariler today) so if you want I could ls -alR for you and you could do some mad stuff with a script
[12:46] <nickrud> Tonren, either find an unofficial deb, or build it from source
[12:46] <Abountu> !tell Abountu about kde
[12:47] <Tonren> nickrud:  There's no like... apt-get update or something?
[12:47] <MrRio> Tonren: you should wait for it to hit the repos, then it will be updated automagically
[12:47] <Tonren> MrRio: sounds like a plan
[12:47] <nickrud> Tonren, no. ubuntu is a 'stable' distro, and does not promise to run the latest & greatest.
[12:47] <Chai_Sangeen> hello everyone
[12:48] <MrRio> Chai_Sangeen: hi
[12:48] <PVZ> ompaul, er...i didn't understand it,i'm sorry[
[12:48] <Zeus`> quick question
[12:48] <SkimO> I am looking into trying out ubuntu, a couple of questions, shipped with gnome-pilot?  anyone tested syncing a livedrive with ubuntu? any notes about it..
[12:49] <ompaul> Tonren, a distro releases packages as a release - and keeps integrity by patching for security or in very very very rare cases replacing  the binary, that is why it is stable, so the it goes into development again and makes shiny a lot more stuff and does another release
[12:49] <Samuli^> Tonren, amarok 1.3.9 is the newest one for dapper
[12:49] <Tonren> Samuli^: Dapper doesn't support 1.4??
[12:49] <Samuli^> Tonren, It might come there later.
[12:49] <Zeus`> how come, whenver I boot up Ubuntu from power off, my internet doesnt work...like the router doesnt even recognize my computer as interacting with it....however, when I reboot into windows and then reboot into Ubuntu it works
[12:49] <Abountu> Skim0: I tried it a couple of times before moving last weekiend to ubuntu with dual boot
[12:49] <Zeus`> I think it has something to do ith Windows loading some driver which Ubuntu takes advantage of?
[12:50] <Samuli^> Tonren, to the backports anyways.
[12:50] <nickrud> Tonren, but don't count on it. But, someone will create an unofficial deb if ubuntu doesn't.
[12:50] <ompaul> PVZ, I can do ls -alR of /usr and you could do some kind of a script and make the permissions right on the box but more than likely faster to reinstall and patch if you have that seperate partition
[12:50] <SkimO> Abountu: what about the pilot-apps ?
[12:50] <ompaul> PVZ, for home
[12:50] <Abountu> Skim0: what's the "pilot-apps"?
[12:50] <ompaul> !info amrok dapper
[12:51] <ubuntu_> what package do I select in synaptic to give me the source to the kernel currently installed on my system?
[12:51] <PVZ> ompaul, I'd prefer if you did the ls -alR of /usr
[12:51] <SkimO> Abountu: the pilot-link suite and gnome-pilot integrated with Evolution, I want to sync my PDA with it
[12:51] <ompaul> !info amarok dapper
[12:51] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 7630 kB, Installed size: 18672 kB
[12:51] <ompaul> PVZ,  is there anything else?
[12:51] <nickrud> PVZ, but I guarantee you, ompaul would much rather you reinstalled :)
[12:51] <Zeus`> Whats the best audio player for Ubuntu?
[12:51] <Tonren> I'm confused.  If I just download the binaries on amaroK's site and install them, will it work?
[12:51] <Abountu> Skim0: I don't think  I can help about that... never done it
[12:51] <raptros-v76> Tonren: no
[12:51] <ompaul> Tonren, no
[12:52] <sybariten> anyone care to take a look at the end of the compiler log i just got? I think the compile failed but i am unsure, so i put it on pastebin
[12:52] <SkimO> anyone? Palm + ubuntu?
[12:52] <sybariten> and i cant exactly pinpoint the problem
[12:52] <Samuli^> raptros-v76, ompaul, Why not?
[12:52] <PVZ> ompaul, if that is a lot of work for you,I am totally comfortable with the reinstall
[12:52] <ompaul> glibc
[12:52] <Tonren> ompaul: raptros-v76: howcome..??
[12:52] <Samuli^> Mind you there's kde 3.5.2 repos for breezy.
[12:52] <ompaul> and other things
[12:52] <PVZ> ompaul, actually if that is any useless work for you,I will reinstall
[12:53] <sybariten> Zeus`: since no one else answered ....  i'd say xmms. Because i love winamp
[12:53] <ompaul> PVZ, its one command line for the box :-) your the one who has to use cut :-)
[12:53] <Samuli^> Zeus`, I like rhythmbox
[12:53] <PVZ> ompaul, ok
[12:53] <PVZ> let's do it then
[12:54] <raptros-v76> Tonren: it needs libs you might not have, because upgrades depend on more stuff, and the binary doesnt know that you have a debian based system
[12:54] <Zeus`> Which has the best sound quality?
[12:54] <Samuli^> raptros-v76, If you have kde 3.5.2 installed, don't you think you could easily compile amarok?
[12:54] <sybariten> Zeus`: very hard to measure for a layman.
[12:55] <JackHanna> hey guys is update broken for everyone because of gnome-app-install?
[12:55] <slfd2525> does anybody know the command for disabling the OEM account? I used the most recent OEM disk to install Dapper, but I don't remember the terminal command to disable the OEM account and enable end-user setup
[12:55] <ompaul> PVZ, is there any other directory you want?
[12:55] <JackHanna> I cant' find a fix for it
[12:55] <raptros-v76> Samuli^: compiling from source is fine
[12:55] <Samuli^> raptros-v76, wasn't that what he was asking for?
[12:55] <PVZ> ompaul, no,the only one i messed up is /usr
[12:55] <raptros-v76> Samuli^: he said the binary
[12:55] <ompaul> PVZ, you really choose the right one to play with :-)
[12:56] <Samuli^> Tonren, so there you have it. You can compile it from source.
[12:56] <JackHanna> is there any fix for this gnome-app-install problem?
[12:56] <JackHanna> I have this same problem http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=175416&highlight=gnome-app-install
[12:56] <ubuntu_> what package do I select in synaptic to give me the source to the kernel currently installed on my system?
[12:56] <Zeus`> sybariten: How exactly do I get equalizer presets?
[12:57] <PVZ> ompaul, the thing i like about ubuntu is that it's an adventure for newbies like me
[12:57] <gnomefreak> JackHanna: dapper?
[12:57] <JackHanna> yes gnome
[12:57] <slfd2525> does anybody know the command for disabling the OEM account? I used the most recent OEM disk to install Dapper, but I don't remember the terminal command to disable the OEM account and enable end-user setup
[12:57] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1 JackHanna please that is the dapper channel
[12:57] <Xappe> ubuntu_: linux-source-'uname -r' I guess
[12:57] <JackHanna> oh thanks
[12:57] <ompaul> PVZ, well let me say you will tell people in the future you reallly should not be looking to write to files you don't own :-)
[12:57] <PVZ> everything,even a language changing on gimp,can teach people many things :)
[12:58] <Samuli^> Xappe, that wouldn't work.
[12:58] <Xappe> Samuli^: no?
[12:58] <wasp_ems> how can i mount my network files..is it enough to make a link through url on my desktop?
[12:58] <PVZ> ompaul, now what should i do with the file you just sent me?
[12:59] <salah> unfo: still here?
[12:59] <MrRio> wasp_ems: Places > Connect to server
[12:59] <ompaul> PVZ if I had known you were a newcomer ohh dear ... let me make it easier for you to deal with
[12:59] <Zeus`> Are there any other xchat themes?
[12:59] <jamiejacksoncumb> can any one tell me how to set up account to login with out password please?
[01:00] <Xappe> Samuli^: ah, no indeed. that should be linux-source-<arch> right?
[01:00] <wasp_ems> MrRio: where is that?
[01:00] <MrRio> wasp_ems, at the top, next to Applications, your using gnome-based ubuntu right?
[01:00] <wasp_ems> no kde
[01:01] <MrRio> wasp_ems: ah ok, not sure then
[01:01] <MrRio> wasp_ems: you could try #kubuntu
[01:01] <kwah> hi! has anyone a clue when launchpad will be back online?
[01:02] <duckdown> Dapper is getting annoying.. Its requesting a reboot EVERY time I do the system updates
[01:02] <Samuli^> Xappe, no.. it's apt-get install source for source packages and then you need to have the switch to just download the packages (and not install them)
[01:02] <nickrud> jamiejacksoncumb, gksudo gdmsetup , select the security tab, and enable automatic login
[01:02] <Stormx2> duckdown: haha yeah
[01:02] <Stormx2> duckdown: Do your updates less regularly then ;-)
[01:02] <duckdown> Stormx2> Why the hell are they doing that
[01:02] <Stormx2> duckdown: it'll all be over in a couple of weeks
[01:02] <duckdown> I had Kubuntu Dapper before
[01:02] <duckdown> It NEVER asked for a reboot
[01:03] <nickrud> duckdown, usually because of a kernel or libc6 change
[01:03] <Stormx2> New kernel versions and stuff
[01:03] <duckdown> nickrud> But it's like every day now!
[01:03] <MrRio> i though it was something to do with Dbus
[01:03] <duckdown> :(
[01:03] <Stormx2> The kernel freeze is like, right now, GMT
[01:03] <ompaul> PVZ, it is midnight here and I am about to head to bed - what you can do is something like a massive find and replace on it using tools like sed - but I am about to split you could do what was suggested but there are gotchas -, for the few minutes of a reinstall you would be a lot safer
[01:03] <nickrud> duckdown, you one of those anal uptime dudes then ;)
[01:03] <MrRio> restarting dbus takes down a load of apps
[01:03] <Samuli^> duckdown, would you prefer to be without the updates?
[01:03] <apokryphos> duckdown: "requesting reboot"?
[01:03] <Stormx2> May 18th, they don't update the kernel anymore
[01:03] <PVZ> ompaul, where do you live?
[01:03] <duckdown> nickrud> Not neccessarily, but man, I don't like having to keep rebooting every day :(
[01:04] <Stormx2> England!
[01:04] <jack> any apt expert alive? i'm wondering how to setup+maintain a repo..google isnt helpful so far :x
[01:04] <jamiejacksoncumb> nickrud I am running direqcafe and this makes account without passwords when i click on the username it ask for a pword
[01:04] <Xappe> Samuli^: hmm, but there are binary packages that put the source as a tar.bz2 in /usr/src
[01:04] <duckdown> Samuli^> No, I'd prefer it to let you reboot at your own pace instead of putting an annoying icon and popup in the top right saying A reboot is needed
[01:04] <Stormx2> No he lives in ireland
[01:04] <mzuverink> How do you create a maildir and what package(s) are required to do so?
[01:04] <PVZ> ireland?
[01:04] <duckdown> apokryphos> Yes, its requesting a reboot.
[01:04] <PVZ> nice,i'm from brazil
[01:04] <nickrud> jamiejacksoncumb, ah, then don't listen to me, I only run a single machine. search for kiosk on the wiki for a start
[01:04] <apokryphos> duckdown: you only really need to ever reboot if you want to change your kernel
[01:04] <Xappe> Samuli^: linux-source-2.6.15 in dapper for example
[01:04] <Samuli^> duckdown, it only pop-ups once just after the update dude.
[01:04] <PVZ> anyway ompaul, thank you and good night
[01:05] <ompaul> PVZ then you would have to move the data about to become a script that you could execute and it would visit each and every file
[01:05] <apokryphos> duckdown: I presume it means to try your new kernel, you have to reboot.
[01:05] <Samuli^> Xappe, o-kay.
[01:05] <jamiejacksoncumb> thanks ill try
[01:05] <apokryphos> (which is obvious)
[01:05] <duckdown> I see :(
[01:05] <duckdown> How many times does kernel 2.6.whatever need to be released
[01:05] <slfd2525> does anybody know what the terminal command is to end OEM setup and continue in end-user setup? i know it's something like sudo oem-configure something, but i don't remember the last par
[01:05] <Stormx2> duckdown: Dude, like I said, kernel freeze today
[01:05] <duckdown> every other day it turns into 2.6.18-5
[01:05] <apokryphos> duckdown: it's not bad considering it's in theory the ONLY time you have to ever reboot. Unlike Windoze.
[01:05] <duckdown> then 2.6.18-6
[01:05] <Stormx2> duckdown: They stop modding it today
[01:05] <apokryphos> duckdown: why are you upgrading every other day?
[01:05] <outlawcrook> how do u open/install a .deb file
[01:05] <Samuli^> duckdowb, as many as needed to get it right :)
[01:05] <duckdown> Stormx2> cool, thanks.
[01:06] <apokryphos> duckdown: and why are you mentioning this in this channel? :)
[01:06] <Stormx2> outlawcrook: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:06] <duckdown> apokryphos> I'm just voicing my opnion... is that not allowed?
[01:06] <outlawcrook> thanks
[01:06] <duckdown> :(
[01:06] <Stormx2> In soviet russia, opinion voices you!
[01:06] <apokryphos> duckdown: you're in the wrong channel for dapper talk; this channel is for breezy talk.
[01:06] <duckdown> Stormx2> LOL :D
[01:06] <Zeus`> !automatix
[01:06] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[01:06] <duckdown> !dapper
[01:06] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[01:06] <Zeus`> !easyubuntu
[01:06] <ubotu> it has been said that easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[01:07] <Samuli^> duckdown, but yeah, constant rebooting is getting annoying. We just need to understand that it is necessary and we _are_ using beta-software.
[01:07] <ste> Hello. I'm trying to get networking working in the latest ubuntu, running on a Toshiba Tecra 750CDM laptop. From looking at the dmesg output, and poking around on the net, I've added 'acpi=off', 'pci=usepirqmask' and 'pci=biosirq', which has cleaned up issues seen in dmesg. However, the system keeps seeing the network card as wanting IRQ 0, and is unable to reserve it. I don't know if that's the entire reason the networking isn
[01:07] <Stormx2> So what happens to the breezy people on June 1st. Do they get a notice like "btw ur system sux"
[01:07] <Stormx2> hail the xbox guru
[01:07] <ompaul> jack, there is something on the wiki on how to maintain a mirror, its rather easy, was written by Mr Karl Gotez jack, there is something on the wiki on how to maintain a mirror, its rather easy - you need to hack (A) the repo you want to mirror (B) the directory you want to put it in locally and that will be the be all and end all
[01:07] <Stormx2> o.O
[01:07] <nickrud> Stormx2, no, they have a year's support left
[01:07] <Stormx2> Im so tired
[01:08] <apokryphos> Stormx2: no :P. Breezy gets support for another 18 months
[01:08] <swissbear> hi
[01:08] <Samuli^> Stormx2, they get a chan #lesser-ubuntu
[01:08] <Samuli^> ;)
[01:08] <nickrud> rflmao
[01:08] <Stormx2> Yeah
[01:08] <ompaul> Stormx2, it shows sleep dude :)
[01:08] <Stormx2> I joined #ubuntu-1 the other day
[01:08] <RandolphCarter> heh, #ubuntu-1, then I'm sure we've got a complete proof by induction
[01:08] <apokryphos> hoary questions are still perfectly valid in here
[01:08] <Stormx2> gave me op, and a tonne of people joined and were like "awww...."
[01:08] <slfd2525> does anybody know what the terminal command is to end OEM setup and continue in end-user setup? i know it's something like sudo oem-configure something, but i don't remember the last par
[01:08] <swissbear> I would like to know how instal kde on ubuntu
[01:08] <nickrud> RandolphCarter, that is so good, it should be
[01:09] <apokryphos> swissbear: /msg ubotu kde
[01:09] <Stormx2> swissbear: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:09] <jamiejacksoncumb> sudo apt-get install kde
[01:09] <nickrud> swissbear, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:09] <Stormx2> No
[01:09] <Xbox_guru> hi, when I try to start up bittorrent it asks me where the meta file is., what should I do
[01:09] <Stormx2> jamiejacksoncumb is lie and a cheat
[01:09] <duckdown> Samuli^> Fair enough :)
[01:09] <nickrud> jamiejacksoncumb, that's a holdover from debian's repos, don't recommend it
[01:09] <Stormx2> Xbox_guru: Its looking for a .torrent file
[01:09] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: give it what it wants :) (meta == .torrent afaik)
[01:09] <swissbear> thank you
[01:09] <apokryphos> jamiejacksoncumb: it's a method, but not the recommended one.
[01:09] <jamiejacksoncumb> download a torrent file and it will run
[01:09] <Xbox_guru> ohh ok,
[01:09] <Stormx2> swissbear: make sure you use this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop NOT kde
[01:10] <Samuli^> Stormx2, why not kde?
[01:10] <Samuli^> or kde-core for that matter.
[01:10] <Stormx2> Samuli^: Read up ^
[01:10] <Samuli^> and better to use aptitude btw.
[01:10] <Stormx2> apokryphos and nickrud explained
[01:10] <|voms|> seesseesse
[01:10] <Stormx2> Don't question my package management biatch
[01:10] <Samuli^> Not all people want _all_ the stuff.
[01:10] <apokryphos> Samuli^: "kde" and "kde-core" are metapackages that don't carry the recommended kubuntu kde packages. They're good for more minimal/customized installs
[01:11] <ompaul> Samuli^, the whole thing is packaged nicely in ubuntu with a meta package - kubuntu-desktop like in ubuntu its not gnome is ubuntu-desktop and so on
[01:11] <nickrud> Samuli^, a point.
[01:11] <Samuli^> it's good to know there a alternatives.
[01:11] <Xbox_guru> which java version should I run, sun's or blacks?
[01:11] <Samuli^> a=are
[01:11] <apokryphos> Samuli^: kubuntu.org/wiki/InstallingKDE explains all
[01:11] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: sun's, if you're running dapper it's in the repositories now
[01:11] <apokryphos> or w.k.o/InstallingKDE even
[01:11] <ste> <----waiting for an acknowledgement of my networking question ...
[01:11] <|voms|> vui parlat ingles?
[01:11] <|voms|> :D
[01:12] <Xbox_guru> I'm running breezy
[01:12] <apokryphos> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE
[01:12] <richiefrich> ste,  ?
[01:12] <|voms|> sesesese
[01:12] <|voms|> usat a ubond?
[01:12] <Stormx2> Right folks, night night!
[01:12] <richiefrich> ste,  i didnt see your question
[01:12] <nickrud> ste, I can't answer, but I'd recommend repeating the whole question about every ten minutes
[01:12] <apokryphos> |voms|: English only in here, please.
[01:12] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: you'll have to follow the restricted formats guide :)
[01:12] <Zeus`> how come, whenver I boot up Ubuntu from power off, my internet doesnt work...like the router doesnt even recognize my computer as interacting with it....however, when I reboot into windows and then reboot into Ubuntu it works
[01:12] <ste> it was large, could you scroll up, so I don't have to retype it?
[01:12] <Zeus`> I think it has something to do ith Windows loading some driver which Ubuntu takes advantage of?
[01:12] <mekanzoo> question: any good internet monthly usage monitor?
[01:12] <swissbear> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/),
[01:13] <Samuli^> Stormx2, "Don't question my package management biatch" <-- what are you going to do if you decide you didn't quite ike that kde?
[01:13] <swissbear> ?
[01:13] <Rudemeister> Zeus`: windows?
[01:13] <nickrud> ste, cut & paste :)
[01:13] <Xbox_guru> randolph, I did, but the plugin isn't in firefox, how do I add it
[01:13] <apokryphos> swissbear: you're not sudo
[01:13] <apokryphos> mekanzoo: I use knemo which is a decent-ish kde monitor
[01:13] <RandolphCarter> Zeus`: I think that may be something to do with Windows not releasing DHCP addresses properly
 |voms|: English only in here, please. I speak only taleban
[01:13] <|voms|> :D
[01:13] <Stormx2> apokryphos: I bet he's just speaking some nonsense to try and make us try and figure out what language he is using and use !es or whatever... its all a mind ploy
[01:13] <apokryphos> mekanzoo: doesn't record monthly though, only per-session.
[01:13] <swissbear> what sudo means?
[01:13] <ste> Hello. I'm trying to get networking working in the latest ubuntu, running on a Toshiba Tecra 750CDM laptop. From looking at the dmesg output, and poking around on the net, I've added 'acpi=off', 'pci=usepirqmask' and 'pci=biosirq', which has cleaned up issues seen in dmesg. However, the system keeps seeing the network card as wanting IRQ 0, and is unable to reserve it. I don't know if that's the entire reason the networking isn
[01:13] <ste> there.
[01:13] <ste> :)
[01:13] <mekanzoo> apokryphos: is it compatible with gnome?
[01:13] <slfd2525> does anybody know what the terminal command is to end OEM setup and continue in end-user setup? i know it's something like sudo oem-configure something, but i don't remember the last par
[01:13] <richiefrich> ste, free up the irq
[01:13] <Stormx2> Samuli^: Uninstall qt3 like I did last time?
[01:13] <apokryphos> mekanzoo: yes, of course, as are all KDE applications.
[01:13] <richiefrich> ste,  and retry
[01:14] <Samuli^> Stormx2, that's gonna get you rid all the packages.
[01:14] <ste> it shouldn't be wanting 0 in the first place
[01:14] <ompaul> !tell swissbear about sudo
[01:14] <pvd2006> I can only view my true resolution at 60hz, when I select anything higher than 60hz it makes everything really big. I went to the fixscreenres page and it didnt help
[01:14] <jamiejacksoncumb> how can you make users with know passwords?
[01:14] <mekanzoo> oh ok.. thank you...
[01:14] <Samuli^> with aptitude you can just "sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop"
[01:14] <mogydy> hello
[01:14] <Zeus`> Rudemeister: When I turn my computer off, go to sleep then wake up, and boot straight into Ubuntu, Idont have internet access and my router's (number 1 light) isnt on, meaning it doest recoginize my computer. However, I then reboot into windows, which I then get online automatically, then reboot into Ubuntu, and I can then use the internet
[01:14] <Technel> I have used Windows forever and Linux just for hosting test/development servers. I would like to use Ubuntu Linux for my desktop enviroment as well as for development. My problem is that on Windows I use Windows Media Player 10. I really like it because it has a nice, graphical interface that lets me sort by song title, artist, lets me rate songs, has auto play-lists (e.g. "songs never listened to", "songs commonly listened to at
[01:14] <Technel> night", "songs rated 4 or 5 stars", etc). Is there anything comprable in Linux?
[01:14] <Stormx2> Samuli^: It won't remove it's dependancies though.
[01:14] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: I can't remember the path, but it puts a plugin into /usr/lib/java*/plugin somewhere
[01:14] <Samuli^> Stormx2, it will.
[01:14] <richiefrich> ste,  the IRQ u can free up in bios, but thats not your sissue
[01:14] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: you can link that to your .mozilla plugin directory, or to the system-wide one, your call
[01:14] <Mysta_> hello, if I install linux-686-smp, and it does not work properly (which it didn't the 1st time) I should still be able to load the 386 kernel right???
[01:14] <mogydy> i need help installing zd1211 on my drapper drake
[01:15] <nickrud> pvd2006, did you define your monitor refresh rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf under Section "Monitor"
[01:15] <Rudemeister> Zeus`: (u)pnp thingy?
[01:15] <raptros-v76> Technel: amarok, rhythmbox, anything. look around
[01:15] <|voms|> you are english o american?
[01:15] <mogydy> i need help installing zd1211 on my drapper drake
[01:15] <Stormx2> Samuli^: Imagine if a trivial package depended on libc and aptitude uninstalled that. That would be silly
[01:15] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: yes, from the boot menu
[01:15] <Xbox_guru> randolph: how do I do that?
[01:15] <richiefrich> ste,  what do u get when you do --> ifconfig -a
[01:15] <mekanzoo> so, whats the best way to monitor montly internet usage?
[01:15] <Mysta_>  RandolphCarter: thanks
[01:15] <Xbox_guru> randolph, i'm new to linux
[01:15] <ste> let me boot up and I'll tell you
[01:15] <Samuli^> Stormx2, trivial?
[01:15] <Zeus`> what do you mean Rudemeister
[01:15] <richiefrich> ste,  do u see your eth0 or just lo
[01:15] <richiefrich> ste, ok
[01:15] <outlawcrook> i got an error when i tried to install the libdvdcss file
[01:15] <pvd2006> nickrud: yes I put HorizSync  30-70 VertRefresh 50-160
[01:15] <stpere> what software can I use to create an animated gif?
[01:15] <Stormx2> Samuli^: non-essential.
[01:15] <richiefrich> outlawcrook, what fails
[01:16] <ste> as I recall, both, but let me verify d=for sure
[01:16] <sarixe> in dapper amd64, is there ANY flash or java plugin natively compatible with firefox?
[01:16] <crazy_penguin> 'night all
[01:16] <ste> er 'verify for sure'
[01:16] <Stormx2> night crazy_penguin
[01:16] <apokryphos> sarixe: no
[01:16] <Technel> raptros-v76, Thanks
[01:16] <Samuli^> Stormx2, well anyways, if you decide to remove kde you probably want all of it gone and aptitude pretty much does just that.
[01:16] <Rudemeister> Zeus`: that perhaps your router talks with a Windows thingy before being able to do it's thing?
[01:16] <apokryphos> sarixe: ubuntu is not BiArch unfortunately
[01:16] <outlawcrook> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libdvdcss2-dev:
[01:16] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: once you've found it, ln -s *plugin-name* /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[01:16] <pvd2006> then I hit cntrl + alt + bckspce to restart X
[01:16] <richiefrich> ste, if u get both then it's a config error
[01:16] <Mysta_>  RandolphCarter: do you know much about linux-686-smp package?
[01:16] <Stormx2> Samuli^: So does apt-get remove qt3
[01:16] <sarixe> apokryphos: ?
[01:16] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: there may be a more complete guide to this on the forums :)
[01:16] <RamnathRemcon> Hey guys
[01:16] <Zeus`> Well how on earth can I remedy that?
[01:16] <outlawcrook>  libdvdcss2-dev depends on libdvdcss2 (= 1.2.9-1); however:
[01:16] <outlawcrook>   Package libdvdcss2 is not installed
[01:16] <Stormx2> Must go, cya.
[01:16] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: sure, what's up?
[01:16] <nickrud> pvd2006, odd then. Could you put both /etc/X11/xorg.conf & /var/log/Xorg.0.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[01:16] <Mysta_> hello ramnath
[01:16] <Xbox_guru> randolph, ok thanks
[01:16] <pvd2006> sure.
[01:16] <Samuli^> Stormx2, it doesn't. there's still all kde-packages that don't depend on qt3 left.
[01:17] <Rudemeister> Zeus`: please do use highlighting
[01:17] <|voms|> vabbu' facetva speng gul da nu monc sord
[01:17] <|voms|> ;)
[01:17] <Zeus`> what do you mean Rudemeister ?
[01:17] <Rudemeister> Zeus`: dunno, dont know what type router etc
[01:17] <Mysta_>  RandolphCarter: to save some time, i have a thread in the forums you want to read that real quick. totally up to you
[01:17] <|voms|> hi at all
[01:17] <Zeus`> Dlink 624
[01:17] <apokryphos> |voms|: once again: English only in here
[01:17] <ste> I haven't config'd anything. RedHat, Fedora work on this laptop with no configuring needed to get networking working
[01:17] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: sure, could you paste the link?
[01:17] <RamnathRemcon> I need to unrar a file but it doesn't want to unrar
[01:18] <sarixe> apokyphos: i have blackdown java 1.4, and it works... but ff crashes every time i load a java applet... like 5 seconds after it starts running
[01:18] <Mysta_> RandolphCarter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177753
[01:18] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: thanks, reading it now
[01:18] <slfd2525> does anybody know what the terminal command is to end OEM setup and continue in end-user setup? i know it's something like sudo oem-configure something, but i don't remember the last par%C4
[01:18] <matsur> "dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1' with  different file `/usr/lib32/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa', not allowed" what does this mean and how do i fix it? trying to install dapper
[01:18] <Mysta_> no thank you!
[01:18] <nickrud> pvd2006, you running dapper?
[01:18] <apokryphos> sarixe: getting sun java packs built on amd64 isn't a problem, but there'll be no flash for you.
[01:18] <cusco> echo 1
[01:18] <apokryphos> neither of them come in an ubuntu installation, of course
[01:19] <apokryphos> cusco: failed
[01:19] <nickrud> matsur, ask on #ubuntu+1 please
[01:19] <cusco> + 1
[01:19] <pvd2006> nickrud, yes had same problem with breezy though
[01:19] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: what graphics card do you have, and which driver are you telling X to use? (also, if possible, could you paste 50 or so lines from around when the problem happens in dmesg)
[01:19] <RamnathRemcon> the command to unrar something is unrar x (file name).rar right?
[01:19] <cusco> sorry
[01:19] <sarixe> apokryphos: i noticed... but the blackdown seems to work... and i caught the output of ff when it crashed... said 'segmentation fault'
[01:19] <pvd2006> let me get those paste bined real quick
[01:19] <ste> almost booted ...
[01:19] <apokryphos> RamnathRemcon: sure
[01:19] <nickrud> pvd2006, yeah, it's the same both places, really.
[01:19] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: paste to the forum, btw :)
[01:20] <RamnathRemcon> but it says command not found
[01:20] <apokryphos> sarixe: might be worth creating a bug report with the debug output
[01:20] <apokryphos> RamnathRemcon: have you got unrar-nonfree installed?
[01:20] <RamnathRemcon> i guess not
[01:20] <ste> logging in ...
[01:20] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: nice spec on that box too, btw
[01:20] <RamnathRemcon> apt-get unrar-nonfree then?
[01:20] <sarixe> apokryphos: but it just ends.  it doesn't freeze or anything, the window just disappears and it ENDS
[01:20] <pingveno> How would I set up my computer to use multiple SSID's?
[01:20] <apokryphos> sarixe: in my experience blackdown pretty much sucks though :P
[01:21] <hikenboot> hello all---I just upgraded to hoary and am trying to setup a very simple ftp server for sharing with my windows clients here at my house .I installed webmin but when i ftp localhost..or from any host i get access is denied i have added /etc/hosts.allow and left /hosts.deny blank and have added an anonymous ftp to webmin and it should be working with ftppro...any ideas
[01:21] <apokryphos> yes, it's a little lame
[01:21] <jamiejacksoncumb> anyone know how to set up password free users
[01:21] <apokryphos> RamnathRemcon: apt-get install, yes.
[01:21] <RamnathRemcon> ok thanks
[01:21] <sarixe> apokryphos: ... i guess... but there's no other solution?
[01:21] <apokryphos> sarixe: installing sun-java, yes.
[01:21] <apokryphos> no free software solution just yet, unfortunately.
[01:21] <sarixe> apokryphos: but it doesn't have a plugin
[01:21] <hikenboot> also telnet is the same
[01:22] <apokryphos> sarixe: pretty sure it does. Have you checked /msg ubotu java?
[01:22] <sarixe> apokryphos: no
[01:22] <apokryphos> might not though, my memory is fading
[01:22] <RandolphCarter> pingveno: if you want to use any essid, you can just do 'iwconfig *interface* essid any'
[01:22] <mel> I'm having a strange sound problem.  It works, but only for one user.
[01:23] <hikenboot> and even ssh gives the same connection refused...is selinux enabled by default in hoary or somthing?
[01:23] <mel> If I log out I get sound, if I log in as the default user I get sound, but if I log in as a user I added, no sound
[01:23] <ste> I see eth0 in the ifconfig output
[01:23] <RandolphCarter> hikenboot: no, but ssh, ftp and telnet servers are not run by default
[01:23] <sarixe> apokryphos: i already tried sun java anyway... and it doesn't come with a plugin.
[01:24] <hikenboot> Randolph so doing an apt-get install  doesnt turn them on? How would i enable them got a doc on it?
[01:24] <RandolphCarter> ahh, if you've done that, yes, it should
[01:24] <bignose_> 5.11 is the new stable right ?
[01:24] <pvd2006> nickrud: I dont have  /var/log/Xorg.0.conf
[01:24] <RandolphCarter> if you've changed the config files, you'll need to do /etc/init.d/*servicename* restart
[01:25] <Mysta_> randolph: Can I find my video card manufacturer inside ubuntu?.  I'm not sure I understand the second half of your request. regarding pasting 50 lines....
[01:25] <pvd2006> nickrud: here is my xorg.conf though http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14193
[01:25] <nickrud> pvd2006, if you have a running X , you should have /var/log/Xorg.something.conf
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: yeah, could you paste the results of 'lspci' and 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf' to the forum?
[01:25] <nickrud> pvd2006, erm. /var/log/Xorg.0.log :)
[01:25] <slfd2525> does anybody know what the terminal command is to end OEM setup and continue in end-user setup? i know it's something like sudo oem-configure something, but i don't remember the last par
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: don't worry about the dmesg, it's kind of tricky if you're not certain what you're looking for
[01:26] <swissbear> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:26] <swissbear>  what should I do?
[01:26] <pvd2006> nickrud: found it
[01:26] <Mysta_> randolph: I've reloaded the OS since these problems came about
[01:26] <apokryphos> swissbear: close synaptic
[01:26] <Mysta_> should I recreate the problem?
[01:26] <swissbear> !! of course
[01:26] <ubotu> swissbear: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: ah, if it's not hapenning, I wouldn't worry too much
[01:26] <slfd2525> swissbear, make sure you're not using any other package manager or downloading any package
[01:26] <swissbear> thanks
[01:26] <ste> richiefrich: I see eth0 in my ifconfig output ...
[01:26] <mekanzoo> Question: how do I install kNemo in gnome?
[01:26] <mel> anybody ever have a sound problem like that?
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: my guess is a graphics card driver was causing it (that's usually the case), but no point in breaking a good box
[01:26] <mel> where one user has sound
[01:26] <mel> and another doesn't
[01:27] <pvd2006> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14194 is my xorg log file
[01:27] <zack> i just installed ubuntu on my other pc, but its needs a video driver. i know the driver is the nvidia glx driver. how do i install it from recovery mode?
[01:27] <Mysta_> randolph: my goal is to load the 686 kernel as I have dual processors
[01:27] <richiefrich> ste, then u need to configure it
[01:27] <Mysta_> should I not?
[01:27] <richiefrich> ste,  let me get u the cmd
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: yes :) try installing 686-smp and see if you get the same problem
[01:27] <slfd2525> zack: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:27] <ste> eth0 is trying to reserve irq 0
[01:27] <Mysta_> randolph - kk, brb
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: but before you do, could you paste 'lspci' and 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf' to the forum
[01:27] <slfd2525> make sure all repositories are selected
[01:27] <ste> it should use something else
[01:27] <Mysta_> sure
[01:27] <Mysta_> one sec
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> thanks :)
[01:28] <kbrooks> who can i email for corerctions to tthe ubuntu faq?
[01:28] <hikenboot> RandolphCarter, I thought the purpose of webmin and ftppro combination was so that these settings could be managed thru a web interface?
[01:29] <wims> is it possible to uninstall python v2.4 and install v2.3 ?
[01:29] <zack> thanks!
[01:29] <wims> does anybody know if v2.4 is 100% compatible with v2.3
[01:29] <nickrud> pvd2006, ok, according to your Xorg.0.log, 1280x1024 is max 60 hz, and xorg.conf has that as the preferred mode.
[01:29] <madewokherd`> wims: you can install both at once
[01:29] <RandolphCarter> hikenboot: I've honestly never used webmin, I'm just trying to make sure you can connect to these services
[01:29] <dli> wims, no :( it's not recommended to tweak package version, unless you know what you are doing
[01:29] <Sanne> wims, you can even have both pythons installed
[01:29] <kbrooks> dli: he isnt doing that?
[01:30] <richiefrich> ste,  ok in the shell/terminal whatever u call itk
[01:30] <dli> kbrooks, he wants to uninstall python2.4
[01:30] <ste> yes
[01:30] <pvd2006> nickrud: does that mean I cant go higher than 60hz?
[01:30] <richiefrich> ste,  do this -->  ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0
[01:30] <madewokherd`> uninstalling python2.4 means uninstalling anything that depends on it
[01:30] <madewokherd`> that's not really a problem, but there are probably a lot of things
[01:30] <kbrooks> dli: THAT IS not ttweaking "package version". that is uninstalling
[01:30] <richiefrich> ste, whats it tell you? any errors?
[01:30] <pvd2006> nickrud: because I was running that under windows with a higher refresh rate
[01:31] <ste> I know how to configure an interface. :) I'm concerned that it keeps trying to reserve irq0 when it should be using something else
[01:31] <nickrud> pvd2006, then possibly you could change the refresh rates. Have you searched the internet for your monitor, and gotten the manufacturer's specs?
[01:31] <biblioteca> jhg
[01:32] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: thanks, checking the post
[01:32] <mel> I'm having a strange sound problem.  My sound  works, but only for one user.
[01:32] <biblioteca> que onda
[01:32] <kbrooks> dli: hm?
[01:32] <ste> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy
[01:32] <kbrooks> dli: are you online?
[01:32] <kbrooks> dli: y or n
[01:33] <biblioteca> yo?
[01:33] <nickrud> biblioteca, portuguese or espanol?
[01:33] <biblioteca> espaol
[01:33] <dli> kbrooks, yes
[01:33] <nickrud> !es
[01:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:34] <Xbox_guru> when i try to install the java firefox plugin from synaptic package manager, I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14195
[01:34] <ste> richiefrich: although it gave me that error, it did configure it. Why isn't it configuring via dhcp?
[01:34] <Mysta_> Randolph: I'm not familar w/ the lspci command, what switch goes along w/ that?
[01:34] <richiefrich> ste,  idk
[01:34] <Sanne> mel, I believe the users need to be in the audio group to be able to use sound.
[01:34] <ste> I have no default route or dns setup yet, either
[01:34] <richiefrich> ste i dont use dhcp
[01:35] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: shouldn't need any, just lspci
[01:35] <mel> Sanne: thank you just fixed it !
[01:35] <mel> :)
[01:35] <ste> Well, other linuxes I've installed on this do it just fine
[01:35] <RandolphCarter> should dump a bunch of ID/type/name lines
[01:35] <dli> ste, do you know your gateway?
[01:35] <ste> yes
[01:35] <ste> 192.168.1.1
[01:35] <Sanne> mel, was I right about the reason, or did you do something else?
[01:35] <james_xxx> is there
[01:35] <nickrud> Xbox_guru, you should be able to install that no problem, it's in main. Did you do something to your sources recently?
[01:35] <dli> ste, add it in your /etc/network/interfaces
[01:36] <james_xxx> is there anyone in here who is experienced with installing xubuntu?
[01:36] <Mysta_>  Randolph: I did lspci /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and all i get back is a list of available switches :-?
[01:36] <ste> My point is I want it to work via dhcp. I do not want to have to manually reconfigure it as I move from one met to another
[01:36] <Xbox_guru> nickrud, my java sources
[01:36] <RandolphCarter> ahh, no, just 'lspci' on its own (without xorg.conf)
[01:36] <Mysta_> oh ok
[01:36] <wims> james_xxx,  i think it would be better if you state your problems than asking for experienced installers
[01:37] <Mysta_> lol
[01:37] <nickrud> Xbox_guru, hm. could you post your current /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:37] <james_xxx> i am attempting to install xubuntu right now, but i am being told that there are unmet dependencies/broken packages
[01:37] <RandolphCarter> ste: does adding 'auto eth0' 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' to your /etc/network/interfaces file not work?
[01:37] <dli> ste, yes, /etc/network/interfaces for auto
[01:37] <pvd2006> in firefox I notice that some file types automatically open external mplayer instead of mplayer-plugin how can you disassociate mplayer external player from firefox
[01:38] <Doxedon> hi
[01:38] <james_xxx> among the unmet dependencies is xfce4..... that sucks
[01:38] <ste> No, I have not tried that. Again, why do I have to configure anything? Other linuxes do this all on their own with no intervention needed from me at all.
[01:38] <Mysta_>  Randolph: ok we're good to go. I'm learning!
[01:38] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: thanks :)
[01:38] <nickrud> james_xxx, you need to enable the universe repo to get xfce4
[01:38] <Doxedon> im running the LIVE CD version of Ubuntu, but I get a black screen at the end of scanning/creating new user etc., how do I get the graphical interface to load?
[01:38] <nickrud> !repos
[01:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:38] <ste> I looked and those entries are in there already
[01:39] <james_xxx> nickrud, i DID enable universe
[01:39] <ste> both entries are already there
[01:39] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: have you installed the 686-smp package, and is it hapenning again?
[01:39] <nickrud> james_xxx, did you do sudo aptitude update ? if so, apt-cache policy xfce4 should say there's a version available
[01:39] <jonah> hey can anyone help me set up pcmcia wireless with ralink chipset. i followed the instructions on ubuntu site but none of them seem to work. my card isn't listed out of the box
[01:39] <james_xxx> nickrud, i will try that right now
[01:40] <Xbox_guru> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14196
[01:40] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: I think I know what the problem is, but there's no point in trying to fix it before we can duplicate it :)
[01:41] <dli> jonah, do you get pcmcia? lspci
[01:41] <jonah> dli, you mean if i type lspci? i don't seem to get anything with that at terminal
[01:41] <Mysta_>  Randolph: ok sounds good. I'll go load the linux-686-smp
[01:41] <Tonren> hey guys, where do the X includes live in dapper?
[01:41] <nickrud> Xbox_guru, line 1, add a # to the beginning. Lines 10, 11, remove the # from the beginning, then sudo aptitude update
[01:42] <jonah> dli, hang on yeah i do, sorry
[01:42] <jonah> dli, i get a lot of entries of things, what should i look for?
[01:42] <dli> jonah, and you see the card in lspci?
[01:42] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: thanks, I'm gonna make a cup of tea in the meantime :)
[01:42] <nickrud> Xbox_guru, also lines 5 & 6, remove the #
[01:42] <Mysta_> ok
[01:43] <nickrud> Xbox_guru, and looking further, remove the # from 33 & 34
[01:43] <apathy> hello all
[01:43] <jonah> dli, can see a  lot of entries, ethernet, pci, usb, vga, isa, smbus, etc
[01:44] <apathy> anyone here know what they are doing? haha
[01:44] <jonah> dli, i think it might be 0000:02:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controlle r (rev 02)
[01:44] <jonah> ??
[01:44] <dli> jonah, read carefully, figure out whether your wireless card is there
[01:44] <Tonren> 'sup apathy
[01:44] <apathy> hi
[01:44] <james_xxx> nickrud, i did sudo aptitude update...  and then tried again to install xubuntu, but i had the same problem as before, i.e. 'unmet dependencies'
[01:44] <RandolphCarter> apathy: kinda, but I'm only in #ubuntu so I can avoid doing it :)
[01:44] <dli> jonah, that's the controller, you need to get the driver for it
[01:44] <sybariten> there is some kind of tool that can watch what tools i compile and install
[01:44] <sybariten> anyone know the name ?
[01:45] <nickrud> james_xxx, I'm gonna suggest you go to easysources. After looking at Xbox_guru
[01:45] <ramonsa> ubotu Sorry to say, but I was in contact with soundray about 6 hours ago and I managed to mess my X environment. Can you help me?
[01:45] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, ramonsa
[01:45] <apathy> im just too new to get ubuntu, but not so new as I dont know where to ask fro help heh
[01:45] <nickrud> 's sources, once again I remember how much I hate the default ubuntu sources.
[01:45] <james_xxx> nickrud, how do i do that?
[01:45] <nickrud> !easysource
[01:45] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:45] <jonah> dli, well it's listed as ralink chipset on their website, which apparently should just work? but it doesn't! do i need the ralink thing installing?
[01:45] <Tonren> Hey everyone, where do the X includes live on Ubuntu?
[01:46] <Mysta_> Randolph: one thing before though. I read another thread that stated that I shouldn't install the linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp or linux-image-686-smp packages (it said anything w/ image in it). How do you feel about that
[01:46] <sybariten> anyone?  it keeps track of whats installed, sort of like apt-get does .....
[01:46] <apathy> when someone knowledgeable has a moment, I have a few questions...
[01:46] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: you can install the 'xorg-dev' package
[01:46] <bimberi> !xincludes
[01:46] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[01:46] <Tonren> apathy: I might be able to help you out.  just ask away
[01:46] <ramonsa> I contacted IRC for help with blurring of my video image when running some programs and soundray was helful to seggest problem probably had to do with video resolution. I messed my X environ
[01:47] <Tonren> bimberi: RandolphCarter: thanks!
[01:47] <apathy> I have an ati 9000 video card for this box and I have NO IDEA whatsoever how to use synaptic beyond point and click haha
[01:47] <jonah> dli, it's a sweex LC500070 if that helps...
[01:47] <dli> jonah, get pcmcia first, http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/doc/PCMCIA-HOWTO.html
[01:47] <Technel> .
[01:47] <Tonren> apathy: ahh.  video card stuff... i haven't had to deal with any of that.  sorry
[01:48] <apathy> just need to know what package to get off synaptic
[01:48] <nickrud> !tell apathy about ati
[01:48] <jonah> dli, ok thanks, will you help me out with this? thanks a lot if you can
[01:48] <james_xxx> nickrud, where it says 'replace KEY with the key ID', what does that mean?
[01:48] <Tonren> bimberi: RandolphCarter: should I get xorg-dev AND xlibs-dev?
[01:48] <Samuli^> apathy, xorg-driver-fglrx is the ati-driver.
[01:48] <apathy> ?
[01:48] <nickrud> apathy, you should have a pm with a link for ati
[01:48] <Mysta_> !tell apathy about vesa
[01:48] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: that depends - do you want to build software yourself, or are you trying to build another package?
[01:48] <apathy> sweet tyvm
[01:48] <RandolphCarter> (write software yourself, my bad)
[01:49] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: I'm building someone else's source
[01:49] <apathy> afk a few min while i divulge infos
[01:49] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: probably just xlibs-dev then :)
[01:49] <dli> jonah, read the howto first, "sudo apt-get install pcmcia-cs"
[01:49] <Mysta_> Randolph u may of missed my last question?
[01:49] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: k, thanks.  What's the difference?  does xorg-dev have the actual symbols and classes in it and stuff?
[01:49] <nickrud> james_xxx, you can skip that part, it's for the stuff where it says, NOT and NOT over and over again :)
[01:49] <Kyral> anyone else in #debian right now? And watching the flamewar in the making? :P
[01:50] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: xorg-dev's a metapackage with most of the dependencies you'd need to write, learn about and debug X software
[01:50] <Samuli^> Kyral, I am now.
[01:50] <Tonren> i gotcha.
[01:50] <nickrud> me too
[01:50] <Kyral> Jeez, I didn't mean "Join #debian!"
[01:50] <RandolphCarter> anyone else noticed the forums are kind of slow?
[01:50] <jonah> dli, it says it's already installed - the newest version
[01:50] <Samuli^> Kyral, me knows :)
[01:51] <Samuli^> kyral, I'm just bored.
[01:51] <RandolphCarter> Kyral: saying "there's a flamewar in debian" is like saying "there's a point of order" in the commons - guaranteed fun
[01:51] <dli> jonah, "sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart"
[01:51] <RandolphCarter> oh, you're starting it :(
[01:51] <dli> jonah, however, you still have to read the howto yourself
[01:52] <dli> jonah, if pcmcia can be started, do "lspci" again, if it shows your wireless card, pcmcia is up now
[01:52] <wegstar> since when was shipit down?
[01:52] <Mysta_> Randolph: one thing before starting. I read another thread that stated that I shouldn't install the linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp or linux-image-686-smp packages (it said anything w/ image in it). How do you feel about that
[01:52] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: well, it depends on what you want to happen to the system
[01:52] <Mysta_> and the forums went offline at least 3 times today
[01:53] <wegstar> it's offline now
[01:53] <Mysta_> sure is
[01:53] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: if you install one of the metapackages like linux-686, it'll automagically download, install and configure new kernels when you do an 'aptitude upgrade' (or dist-upgrade)
[01:53] <jonah> dli, sorry i'm already lost - i'm new to this stuff only installed ubuntu today and i don't really understand the howto
[01:53] <jonah> dli, am i recompiling the kernel, re-installing or somehow changing the settings?
[01:53] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: so, unless you want to be permanently stuck with 2.6.12-10-686, probably best to put on linux-686-smp
[01:53] <dli> jonah, read it, you will find it's really clear
[01:54] <apathy> ok i suck, I cant find that in synaptic
[01:54] <nickrud> nothing new there, I'll just move along
[01:54] <dli> jonah, recompiling kernel is not needed, unless you want to
[01:54] <Mysta_> and only linux-686-smp?
[01:54] <RandolphCarter> oh (linux-686-smp gets the restricted modules for you too)
[01:54] <RandolphCarter> well, for your system, linux-686-smp
[01:55] <Mysta_> kk, brb, crossing my fingers!
[01:55] <RandolphCarter> because you've got an ATI graphics card, you'll need the restricted modules too (which that includes) :)
[01:55] <RandolphCarter> gl
[01:55] <jonah> dli, sorry it's not clear to me, can you give me a clue?
[01:56] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: The same thing I'm  building is asking for Qt, but it doesn't say which bindings it wants.  is tehre a "generic" Qt dev library?
[01:56] <NoobThatNeedsHel> hi, how do i delete this OS and re install it
[01:56] <dli> jonah, just read it. at the same time, can you " sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart "
[01:56] <jonah> dli, it's saying something about startup scripts but doesn't tell me what to type. i assume i don't have to install it cos it's already installed and i'm totally stuck. i am sorry to be stupid on this
[01:56] <NoobThatNeedsHel> install***
[01:56] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: it'll probably want qt4, so libqt4-dev
[01:56] <jonah> dli, i already did that restart thing
[01:57] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Actually, it says >= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0
[01:57] <dli> jonah, now, " lspci ", read the output
[01:57] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: ahh, try libqt3-dev (or, if that's not there, qt3-dev-tools)
[01:57] <jonah> dli, 0000:02:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
[01:57] <NoobThatNeedsHel> so how can i re install ubuntu
[01:58] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: debian/ubuntu packages have a _very_ regular naming system.  If something wants headers for a library, it's most likely in lib<libraryname><major-version>-dev
[01:58] <jonah> dli, cardbus is pcmcia right?
[01:58] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Cool.. thanks for the tip.
[01:58] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: np's :)
[01:58] <dli> jonah, look for the wireless card
[01:58] <C|int> I got wireless going :D
[01:58] <C|int> :D :D :D
[01:59] <GlassCasket> YO
[01:59] <C|int> took me, since October last year, but I got it going today, thanks to anto9us  :D
[01:59] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: I'm pretty new to open source / linux... I've been using amaroK and noticed that there's no right-click context menu for sending a song to a playlist, so I want to see if I can hack it in for myself.
[01:59] <C|int> you finna get some money :D
[01:59] <ericz> say i setup an account with the passwd command to expire the password or whatever... if i login with gdm, and it goes to xfce, will it actually warn me that the password is expiring soon?
[01:59] <GlassCasket> The forums down for anyone?
[01:59] <jonah> dli, the nearest mention i get to a card is 0000:02:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
[01:59] <apathy> ok so, basically, am I misunderstanding what synaptic is?
[01:59] <jonah> dli, but no mention of wireless
[01:59] <C|int> hey anto9us < I got so excited though, lost the access point, but it seen the ap lol
[01:59] <Tonren> GlassCasket: the new release got dugg, the server i sdead
[01:59] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: ahh, okay, apt-get source amarok?
[01:59] <PMantis> What's the correct way to add a resolution option to Ubuntu? I'm connecting a monitor to my laptop.
[01:59] <edgardpacheco> hello everybody
[01:59] <dli> jonah, that means your pcmcia is not up
[01:59] <anto9us> C|int, you're running off the wifi now?
[01:59] <RandolphCarter> heya edgardpacheco
[01:59] <james_xxx> nickrud, i am trying to download one of the repositories from that page, but i am getting a keyserver error
[01:59] <C|int> oh not yet :)
[02:00] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: actually, I'm installing from anonymous svn
[02:00] <GlassCasket> That's what I figured, lol. :P
[02:00] <C|int> bu tI luv ya anto9us  :)
[02:00] <anto9us> C|int, I don't care, have you got any sisters?
[02:00] <C|int> I seen the acces point, and got so excited, went off to tell a friend, came back, adn something eh,
[02:00] <C|int> hee
[02:00] <mzuverink> Can anyone recommend a good nintendo emulator, one that also does sega?
[02:00] <C|int> I got a gf, I"m just saying, man I owe ya big time lol
[02:00] <jonah> dli, what's that mean then, can i get it working?
[02:00] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: ahh :P can't be too new then, just make sure you run the configure with --prefix=/usr/local, if it goes into /usr Apt would have a fit
[02:00] <C|int> your the best help ever for wireless
[02:00] <PMantis> I need to change to 1280x1024, but I don't have that option under "Screen Resolution".
[02:00] <GlassCasket> I posted this on the forums, but in the live CD, how am I suppose to get ndiskwrapper to get my wireless going without the internet? :\
[02:01] <C|int> you do know what your doing , with linux, and the commands, and stuff I have to get better with
[02:01] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Howcome?  Also, I got qt3-dev-tools, but ./configure is still telling me it doesn't exist
[02:01] <james_xxx> nickrud, i tried to get the one from the ubuntu backports project
[02:01] <apathy> heres what I need to do, I have this system hooked to my tv as well as this monitor, I want it to do tv out but for that I need some features beyond the scope of resolution.
[02:01] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: try libqt3-mt-dev
[02:01] <nickrud> james_xxx, a sec
[02:01] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: "threaded"?  what's the difference?
[02:01] <apathy> me?
[02:02] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: *shrugs* mt's probably thread-safe
[02:02] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Hmm.
[02:02] <james_xxx> nickrud,  ok
[02:02] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: What was that you were saying about installing into /usr/local?  I know next to nothing about Linux directory conventions.
[02:02] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: ahh, libqt3-dev should exist, have you managed to install it?
[02:02] <Xbox_guru> nickrud, thanks editing those gave me 157 updates
[02:02] <anto9us> C|int, I've been on Ubuntu for just over a year now
[02:02] <C|int> I need too, do those commands again :-)
[02:02] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: It doesn't seem to exist.
[02:03] <anto9us> anyway, I must stop chatting here
[02:03] <C|int> wow, heeh, I started with, warty, however I didn't have a laptop at that time, until Octoboer
[02:03] <C|int> October
[02:03] <jonah> dli, is there anything else i can do?
[02:03] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: yes, no candidate version..
[02:03] <C|int> nah, your fine man
[02:03] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: "candidate version"?
[02:03] <Sanne> Tonren, you might need to set some qtdir variable to /usr/share/qt3 for configure to find the include files.
[02:03] <anto9us> C|int, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:03] <Xbox_guru> I don't know if it worked yet but it probally should
[02:03] <C|int> you helped me, and I think I have to do some other things, can I check for wireless, even having eth0 on
[02:04] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: libqt3-dev points to another package that it can't seem to find :/ did libqt3-mt-dev work?
[02:04] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Yep
[02:04] <C|int> hey all, I don't care if this is offtopic , however, I recommend, anto9us , get some pay pal going on, for his wireless support, he is really terrific, with patience, and step by step ways
[02:04] <RandolphCarter> hopefully that should build :)
[02:04] <Tonren> Sanne: If mt-dev doesn't work, I'll try running ./configure with --SRCDIR=/usr/share/qt3
[02:04] <dli> jonah, " sudo modprobe yenta_socket "
[02:04] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: Apt is the Debian/Ubuntu packaging system, and it's very picky about what modifies its files
[02:04] <jonah> dli, phew thanks i though all hope was lost, i'll try it
[02:04] <GlassCasket> In the live CD, how am I suppose to get ndiskwrapper to get my wireless going without the internet? :\
[02:05] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: I take it that it prefers to have sole domain over /usr?
[02:05] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: chances are good that if you modify /usr it'll just overwrite what you've done
[02:05] <Sanne> Tonren, you sure it's SRCDIR? Look in ./configure --help for a specific qt dir variable.
[02:05] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: exactly :) but you still have /opt, /usr/local etc.
[02:05] <jonah> dli, that just gave me another prompt
[02:05] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Aye
[02:05] <wims> does anybody know of a good howto on dual head with ATI 9600xt ?
[02:05] <dli> jonah, now, " lspci "
[02:05] <Tonren> Sanne: Good call.  Hang on, I'm gonna try to ./configure again without changing anything now that qt-mt-dev is up
[02:05] <Mysta_> RandolphCarter: Install of linux-686-smp went over successfully, I'm about to restart
[02:05] <dli> jonah, if still now wireless card, " sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart "
[02:06] <jonah> dli, nothing still
[02:06] <RandolphCarter> wims: does 'sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=left' work?
[02:06] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: good luck :)
[02:06] <Tonren> Uh-oh, ha ha, looks like I need KDE headers, too
[02:06] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: do you have another machine to IRC from?
[02:06] <jonah> dli, it's just as it was before when i do lspci
[02:07] <dli> jonah, paste your lspci output at  pastebin.com
[02:07] <jonah> dli, i appreciate the time your giving me btw, thanks
[02:07] <wims> RandolphCarter,  didn't know of that, trying now
[02:07] <jonah> dli, ok hang on a sec
[02:07] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: What's the package for KDE headers...?
[02:07] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: kde-devel?
[02:07] <PMantis> I need to change to 1280x1024, but I don't have that option under "Screen Resolution". How do I add it?
[02:07] <Sanne> Tonren, tip: if configure complains about a missing file, you can check on packages.ubuntu.com in section "Search contents of packages" which package the file belongs to.
[02:08] <Tonren> Sanne: Thanks.. that's a good tool to have, hehe
[02:08] <Sanne> Tonren, indeed :)
[02:08] <jonah> dli, http://pastebin.com/723719
[02:08] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: yeah, kde-devel might do the trick
[02:08] <nickrud> james_xxx, still here a sec more
[02:09] <Tonren> Sweet jesus!  kde-devel is over a hundred megs!
[02:09] <james_xxx> nickrud, i'm still here, no prob
[02:10] <nickrud> james_xxx, I haven't tried the backports personally. No opinion
[02:10] <james_xxx> nick, what one should i try to get xfce4?
[02:10] <SAM_theman> yo
[02:11] <SAM_theman> is their a way to countine downloading a program with wget if somthing happened??
[02:11] <Sanne> SAM_theman, wget -c file
[02:11] <dli> jonah, is it a new installation?
[02:11] <tahorg> Sanne: -c url
[02:11] <Sanne> tahorg, right
[02:12] <dli> jonah, and no critical personal data?
[02:12] <jonah> dli, yeah totally new like an hour ago, and i did all the updates it said were available
[02:12] <Sanne> SAM_theman, wget -c url
[02:12] <Tonren> Man.. I wish I had known more about the way the filesystem in Linux works before I had set up my partitions
[02:12] <Tonren> I gave /home 10 gigs and / only 5, but all of the packages go into /!!
[02:12] <dli> jonah, is it on public network?
[02:12] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ ;) but it's heavy reading
[02:12] <tahorg> Tonren: no that's a good option
[02:12] <jonah> dli, not really - copied quite a few things over - no it's not on any network or anything like that
[02:12] <tahorg> Tonren: sudo apt-get clean
[02:13] <Tonren> tahorg: But I only have 1.8GB left on / .
[02:13] <Tonren> tahorg: What's that do, exactly..?  will it break anything?
[02:13] <jonah> dli, really want wifi though cos it's laptop and was one of main things i used it for under windows before i decided to go all linux!
[02:13] <tahorg> Tonren: it will clean the downloaded packages
[02:13] <Mysta_> RandolphCarter: Ok it locked up :(
[02:13] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: You are a golden god!!! I've been trying to find a document like this for AGES.
[02:13] <Tonren> tahorg: Sounds good, I guess.
[02:13] <wims> RandolphCarter,  after running that apt-get command for dual head i get this message : sudo: aticonfig: command not found
[02:13] <dli> jonah, I don't how it goes wrong, but it's easier for me to login and have a look
[02:13] <tahorg> Tonren: yes, you don't need them after being installed
[02:14] <Tonren> tahorg: Ooooooh. I see.
[02:14] <jonah> dli, wow how can you do that?
[02:14] <RandolphCarter> wims: ahh, are you running dapper or breezy?
[02:14] <jonah> dli, that's amazing!!
[02:14] <Sanne> Tonren, the deb packages get downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives. The clean command deletes them from there.
[02:14] <wims> breezy
[02:14] <slackern> Tonren: 'sudo apt-get clean' will clean all downloaded packages that you have in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:14] <james_xxx> nickrud, where should i try to find xfce4?
[02:14] <tahorg> Tonren: look at a df -h before and after
[02:14] <dli> jonah, can you connect it in anyway? by the wired card?
[02:14] <RandolphCarter> wims: make a copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf in your home directory and run 'sudo fglrxconfig'
[02:14] <wims> RandolphCarter, 64 bits breezy, dunno if that's relevant
[02:14] <Tonren> tahorg: oo.  I didn't know about df.  that's a fun command
[02:15] <james_xxx> nickrud, the instructions at wiki.xubuntu did not work for me, and i believe i followed them exactly
[02:15] <RandolphCarter> wims: the config tool for ATI is a bit improved in dapper :)
[02:15] <jonah> dli, it's connected - i'm talking to you through ethernet connection
[02:15] <tahorg> Tonren: usefull ;)
[02:15] <wims> RandolphCarter,  i did a dist-upgrade from hoary to badger yesteday, do you think it's better to upgrade to dapper ?
[02:15] <RandolphCarter> wims: not better, just different :)
[02:15] <Tonren> tahorg: Is it a bad sign if I experience a mote of nerdy joy every time I discover a new bash command?
[02:16] <dli> jonah, okay, pm me
[02:16] <Mysta_> RandolphCarter: Ok it locked up :(
[02:16] <RandolphCarter> wims: you can get it to work in Breezy too, the combined effort of upgrading to Dapper and configuring the card is probably greater
[02:16] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: good, glad to hear its still a problem :)
[02:16] <tahorg> Tonren: on the right way you are, young padawan
[02:16] <dli> jonah, looks like you are not registered
[02:16] <dli> jonah, /join #dli
[02:16] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: try 'sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and change 'Driver "ati"' to 'Driver "radeon"'
[02:17] <james_xxx> has anyone else in here tried to install xubuntu?
[02:17] <Tonren> I wish Gaim's Find feature in logs would jump from found pattern to found pattern like most text viewers do
[02:17] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: it won't change anything
[02:17] <nickrud> james_xxx, work is interfering right this sec. My bottom line advice? replace /etc/apt/sources.list with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047. Then, type    sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[02:17] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: nani?
[02:17] <Mysta_> ok one sec
[02:17] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: ati/radeon is the same driver
[02:17] <james_xxx> nickrud, thank you so much... i will try that
[02:17] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: no, they're most definitely not
[02:17] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: my system wouldn't even start Xorg with ati, but started fine with radeon
[02:18] <nickrud> james_xxx, sorry I try to be able to follow up on my advice, I'm just tiime constricted right now :)
[02:18] <RandolphCarter> ati is the much older grandfather of radeon..
[02:18] <james_xxx> nickrud, i understand..... ummm... do i just type that link into the command line???
[02:18] <SAM_theman> thanks fool :P
[02:18] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: I can use my x700 mobility putting ati/radeon
[02:18] <SAM_theman> the wget -c url worked you saved my life
[02:18] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: and same logs
[02:18] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: hmm..
[02:19] <Sanne> SAM_theman, cool :)
[02:19] <SAM_theman> well your not a fool but you know
[02:19] <nickrud> james_xxx, that link in a browser, cut & paste the contents to /etc/apt/sources.list ( type gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" , that's the file the contents go into)
[02:19] <SAM_theman> thanks man
[02:19] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: but you're probably right, there are 2 differents files
[02:19] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: ati_drv.so radeon_drv.so
[02:19] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: aye, radeon is a much newer driver, I guess it's nifty they have the same log format
[02:20] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: any luck?
[02:20] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: well, let me give a try now
[02:21] <RandolphCarter> heh, ati's 52K and radeon's 302K :)
[02:22] <wims> RandolphCarter, hmmm that didn't work :(
[02:22] <james_xxx> nickrud, i can't cut and paste, as i am installing xubuntu on another computer... unless i can access a browser from ubuntu server??
[02:22] <wims> RandolphCarter,  still the same on both monitors
[02:22] <RandolphCarter> wims: hmm, did fglrxconfig finish okay? (and did you select all of the dual-head stuff?)
[02:23] <RandolphCarter> wims: if you did that okay, do 'ls /etc/X11' and see if there's a file named XF86Config or XF86Config-4
[02:23] <nickrud> james_xxx, hm.
[02:23] <mick_> can anyone help me mount my ntfs drive?
[02:23] <nickrud> james_xxx, join #flood
[02:24] <cpare> Good Evening All
[02:24] <wims> no XF86Config file
[02:24] <wims> only xorg.conf
[02:24] <wims> RandolphCarter,
[02:25] <james_xxx> nickrud, if i downloaded the dapper beta ISO, would i be able to just install xubuntu from that?
[02:25] <RandolphCarter> hmm :/ I don't think fglrxconfig could have saved the config file in the right place, has it put it in your home directory?
[02:25] <wims> ah... there's a xorg.conf in my home dir
[02:25] <nickrud> james_xxx, I think there's an xubuntu dapper, but join #flood. You would need to type three lines into your server install
[02:25] <cpare> anyone know when dapper is due to be GA?
[02:25] <RandolphCarter> wims: bingo :) unless that's the copy you made, copy it over /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:25] <billytwowilly> are the 64 bit nvidia drivers crap? I get the nvidia logo when I boot up X, but glxgears still runs really slow.
[02:26] <Olde> did a online install of Debian and can't get it to login
[02:26] <james_xxx> nickrud, ok, are you going to give me those?
[02:26] <nickrud> james_xxx, of course, as soon as you're in flood :)
[02:26] <ntfx> If I want to try ubuntu out, will i need to sacrifice my windows installation?
[02:26] <wims> RandolphCarter, the one in etc/x11 is the most recent one
[02:26] <james_xxx> nickrud, oops, ok lol
[02:26] <wims> so that wasn't it either
[02:26] <eugman> What's the point of esd? I seem to need to kill it to runn xmms or sounds on some games. There doesn't seem to be much negative difference after I do killall esd.
[02:26] <james_xxx> join #flood
[02:27] <RandolphCarter> wims: ah :/ what happens if you 'grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf'?
[02:27] <james_xxx> hmm
[02:27] <wims> RandolphCarter, xorg.conf contains that word
[02:27] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: well, Driver "ati" or Driver "radeon" both load radeon_drv.so AND ati_drv.so
[02:27] <nickrud> james_xxx, /join #flood
[02:27] <wims>     Driver                              "fglrx"
[02:27] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: erk?
[02:28] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: yes
[02:28] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: I've diffed  the logs
[02:28] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: that's obscure, but I still don't believe they're the same driver, they're just magical now
[02:29] <Kickersny> why won't dpkg honor my --force request? http://72.16.160.100/libc6.txt
[02:29] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: www.tahorg.net/stuff/Xorg.0.log-{ati,radeon,diff}
[02:29] <rootaccess> ls
[02:29] <rootaccess> ls
[02:30] <rootaccess> hehe wrong window
[02:30] <Kyral> I've done that
[02:30] <RandolphCarter> wims: hmm, that's all I can really walkthrough, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 is good, when the forums come back
[02:30] <wims> RandolphCarter,  ok thanks
[02:31] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: the "ati" detects the radeon then loads the radeon_drv
[02:31] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: I guess it must be buggy then, ati completely chokes on my X800
[02:31] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: the "radeon" loads automatically ati_drv before detection
[02:31] <Mysta_> RANDOLPH!!!!!
[02:31] <Mysta_> IT WORKED
[02:31] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: :)
[02:31] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: see, another person for whom ati is borked :/
[02:31] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: I imagine radeon_drv depends on ati_drv
[02:31] <zack> I tried to do "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" but I got "
[02:31] <zack> Reading package lists... Done
[02:32] <Mysta_> wow u're amazing, i've seen u fix 5-6 problems in like 30 minutes
[02:32] <zack> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:32] <zack> E: Unable to find a source package for wine"
[02:32] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: look in your log file, I bet it loads ati_drv too :)
[02:32] <Mysta_> Thank you so much!
[02:32] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: I'm using fglrx now ;)
[02:32] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: np's :) I'm only doing this so I don't have to get around to doing some coding :/
[02:32] <Mysta_> ah what language?
[02:32] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: me too ... xgl/compiz
[02:32] <mr_hus> Is there a good guide somewhere to get fonts looking nice under ubuntu? I can't seem to get them to look as good as they do under windows... there's always something that does not feel right.
[02:32] <RandolphCarter> python :( fun with metaclasses atm
[02:33] <zack> I tried to do "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" but I got
[02:33] <Mysta_> heh, i wanna learn python and jump on the django bandwagon!
[02:33] <zack> "Reading package lists... Done
[02:33] <zack> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:33] <zack> E: Unable to find a source package for wine"
[02:33] <RandolphCarter> :P django is kinda neat
[02:33] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: python is the way.
[02:33] <zack> what should i do?
[02:33] <Samuli^> !fonts
[02:33] <ubotu> from memory, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[02:33] <robertl> zack is deb-src included in your sources.list?
[02:33] <zack> i dont know
[02:34] <zack> let me check
[02:34] <Mysta_> well i have to get out of here. been workin almost 13 hours.. I really appreciate the help! goodnight everyone
[02:34] <RandolphCarter> lol, night Mysta_
[02:34] <Samuli^> mr_hus, to me ubuntu's fonts look much better than in windows though. Funny thing.
[02:34] <robertl> zack, sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <Bilange> ubotu:  tell zack about universe
[02:34] <RandolphCarter> gonna get some kip n'all, it's like 1:30am and I think I have to work tomorrow :/
[02:34] <Mysta_> wherer ya from?
[02:34] <RandolphCarter> UK, up north :) you?
[02:34] <Mysta_> Atlanta GA. did you watch the game today?
[02:35] <Mysta_> arsenal vs barcelona?
[02:35] <Bilange> zack:  you might need to add more repositories -- see what ubotu said in private message
[02:35] <mr_hus> Samuli^:  yeah well it might be my monitor or something I don't know... they're not that ugly... but depending on the font sometimes they are hard to weird...
[02:35] <RandolphCarter> ahh, yeah :)
[02:35] <robertl> zack, look for any deb-src http://source-repo-addr/ubuntu main
[02:35] <rootaccess> usa all the way -- bush is crazy -- you had better pray
[02:35] <rootaccess> hehe
[02:35] <RandolphCarter> I'm a Liverpool fan, and we already won the FA cup this weekend though ^_^
[02:35] <Mysta_> GERRARD is THE MAN
[02:35] <Samuli^> mr_hus, I've always liked the open symbol ones..
[02:35] <tritium> rootaccess: that's off topic
[02:35] <Mysta_> he is absolutely amazing
[02:35] <zack> robertl, not there should i add it to the bottom?
[02:35] <rootaccess> soo what -- it rhymed :D
[02:35] <rootaccess> hehe
[02:35] <RandolphCarter> aye Mysta_ :)
[02:35] <robertl> hang on zack...
[02:35] <Warbo> RandolphCarter: Hopefully that may mean a new release of the Istanbul screen capture tool for GStreamer0.10 :)
[02:35] <Mysta_> well g'night
[02:36] <Mysta_> see ya everyone
[02:36] <Samuli^> mr_hus, I mean they might not be as readable as in windows, but they definately look nicer.
[02:36] <tritium> so please don't discuss politics here.  That's not the channel's purpose
[02:36] <RandolphCarter> Warbo: :P
[02:36] <RandolphCarter> night ^_^
[02:37] <rootaccess> i wasn't -- i was passing a song along for everyone to enjoy -- thier interpretation is not my concern :-D
[02:37] <tritium> rootaccess: okay, well please refrain in the future.  Thanks :)
[02:37] <robertl> zack, check sidebar.
[02:38] <Samuli^> mr_hus, you might want to play around with the anti-aliasing options in system/preferences/fonts
[02:38] <rootaccess> you didn't like my song eh?
[02:38] <rootaccess> hehe
[02:38] <zack> robertl, what do you mean? by the way im enableing the things ubotu siad if thats what you mean
[02:38] <tahorg> Tonren: so ?
[02:38] <Tonren> tahorg: Hmm?
[02:38] <robertl> zack, no, are you using xchat?
[02:38] <tahorg> Tonren: you've cleaned your / ?
[02:38] <tritium> rootaccess: let's not discuss it anymore.  Let's talk about ubuntu-related stuff instead :)
[02:38] <Tonren> tahorg: Nope, gonna do that now
[02:38] <Warbo> mr_hus: Flat-panel monitors look better with "sub rendering" (I don't know what it is but it works)
[02:39] <zack> robertl, chatzilla
[02:39] <tahorg> "tidy your root, now"
[02:39] <whiter> my mouse isnt working, anyone know how to get it working? whats the command to reconfigure xorg again?
[02:39] <Warbo> whiter: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:39] <tritium> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:39] <robertl> zack, aaaah. can you /join #sources.list, I need you to paste your current file.
[02:39] <whiter> dpkg --conmpri
[02:39] <rootaccess> ok -- I actually have a on-topic question! :-D
[02:40] <Tonren> Hey guys, how do you concatenate two strings on the command line?  Like, what if I wanted to do df -h > df_log, but I also wanted to put a datestamp?
[02:41] <mr_hus> Warbo: yeah i have it set up to that... but still...
[02:41] <mick_> what is the music player of choice for ubuntu users?
[02:41] <rootaccess> *waiting for compile to error again ...
[02:41] <Tonren> mick_: amaroK seems to be pretty popular.
[02:41] <rootaccess> When i try to compile Kismet i get an error :
[02:41] <rootaccess> configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[02:41] <Warbo> mr_hus: Either way I would fight anyone to the death who said that Word's font rendering is better than OpenOffice's
[02:42] <tritium> rootaccess: why are you compiling it, anyway?
[02:42] <tritium> (since it's in the repositories)
[02:42] <rootaccess> i have already installed : libncursesw5_5.4-4_i386.deb
[02:42] <gray> hey all you smart linux people, i have a question about irc
[02:42] <tritium> !info kismet
[02:42] <rootaccess> and i dont understand why that isnt working
[02:42] <ubotu> kismet: (Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2005.08.R1-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 983 kB, Installed size: 2920 kB
[02:42] <mr_hus> Warbo: hehe naw.. im mostly complaining about how it looks in firefox on some pages... depending on the font being used..
[02:42] <bimberi> Tonren: date > df.log && df -h >> df.log
[02:42] <nclife> arr, how do i install a .bin again? i already forgot
[02:42] <tritium> rootaccess: sudo apt-get install kismet
[02:43] <Kickersny> gray, you going to ask?
[02:43] <rootaccess> really ?! SWEET!
[02:43] <rootaccess> lol
[02:43] <Tonren> bimberi: No way to do it without two calls to df.log, eh?
[02:43] <rootaccess> gonna try
[02:43] <gray> so i have a server, and I want to set up IRC on it so my friends and I can chat
[02:43] <tritium> rootaccess: it's in the universe repository, so make sure you've enabled it
[02:43] <Kickersny> apt-get install ircd ?
[02:43] <Kickersny> just a guess
[02:43] <gray> but i don't know which server to use
[02:43] <bimberi> Tonren: nothing jumps to mind
[02:43] <gray> yeah, i see ircd
[02:43] <mr_hus> warbo: for example slashdot looks pretty so-so... (at least, not as readable as in windows...) but then again.. maybe there's a way i can tweak these things..
[02:43] <DanTheMan25> just download amarok 1.4 but it doesn't have gstreamer, and it doesn't play MP3's with xine am i missing something?
[02:43] <Warbo> mr_hus: If you really want to then I think you can override font settings for sites in the preferences (I tend not to though, because I have a black/dark grey theme and so many sites end up with white-on-white or black-on-black colour schemes)
[02:43] <gray> i noticed that ubuntu doesn't have a preferred one tho
[02:43] <Kickersny> use ircd
[02:43] <gray> so dancer-ircd, rageircd, iacd, ircd?
[02:44] <gray> ok
[02:44] <rootaccess> hrm... i got a bunch of  Couldn't stat source package list.... errors
[02:44] <tritium> !tell rootaccess about repos
[02:44] <xero> Good evening everyone
[02:44] <gray> and also, what is the suggested client for command-line?
[02:44] <Warbo> rootaccess: try to ping the address that don't work?
[02:44] <nclife> is there a command to install a .bin program?
[02:44] <Samuli^> mr_hus, have you tried to play around with the anti-aliasing options in system/preferences/fonts
[02:44] <tritium> rootaccess: make sure you setup your /etc/apt/sources.list appropriately
[02:44] <rootaccess> ok -- ty -- i will try
[02:44] <navyn> hello all, just a real simple question for ya.  How do I get the debian menus to show up?
[02:45] <bimberi> gray: gnome-terminal ??
[02:45] <Warbo> nclife: "/path/to/file.bin"
[02:45] <Samuli^> navyn, do you have alacarte menu editor?
[02:45] <Bilange> gray:  you mean for IRC? on the command line, id sugger irssi
[02:45] <bimberi> navyn: install the "menu" package
[02:45] <navyn> Samuli^, yes
[02:45] <Samuli^> or even ala carte
[02:45] <Samuli^> navyn, well fire it up :)
[02:46] <nclife> ls
[02:46] <Warbo> nclife: What are you trying to install?
[02:46] <gray> thank you all for your help! :)
[02:46] <navyn> Samuli^, its there but nothing happens when i click on it.  nothing shows up
[02:46] <xero> Is anyone familiar with installing Open Xchange on Ubuntu?
[02:47] <nclife> Warbo, a poker software  :P
[02:47] <Bilange> "ls"? nah, you should type "/names" in here ;P
[02:47] <eric_polegato> For some reason my Ubuntu box is lagging so horridly it's unfit, are there any ideas why this might be?
[02:47] <talldave> i am finding that wine freezes my system, has anyone else found this?
[02:47] <nclife> Warbo, i have dl the file called PPSsetup.bin
[02:47] <Samuli^> navyn hmm
[02:47] <navyn> bimberi, menu is installed
[02:47] <bimberi> navyn: hmmk
[02:47] <Warbo> nclife: OK. Just making sure it wasn't something already in Ubuntu (it is always best to use Ubuntu packages, but obviously something specific like that will not be in the repos)
[02:48] <Samuli^> navyn, try alacarte in terminal
[02:48] <Samuli^> see what it puts out
[02:48] <linuxcrazy> this is incredible
[02:48] <nclife> Warbo, yes. So, how should i open it to be able to install the software?
[02:48] <linuxcrazy> 715 guys on here
[02:48] <linuxcrazy> nclife: what r u trying to do?
[02:48] <navyn> Samuli^, it doesn't output any errors
[02:49] <Bilange> linuxcrazy:  theres even more in debian and gentoo :S
[02:49] <Warbo> nclife: In a terminal you can either type the whole path (you can use Tab to complete filenames) or, if it is in your home directory you can type "./PPSetup.bin" (that is a dot followed by a slash)
[02:49] <nclife> linuxboy, trying to open a .bin file to install a progam
[02:49] <nclife> Warbo, okayz
[02:49] <linuxcrazy> bwahahaha
[02:49] <linuxcrazy> a .bin?!
[02:49] <linuxcrazy> nooooo
[02:49] <juice> I'm kinda confused, is the latest version at http://www.ubuntu.com/download?
[02:49] <C|int> I lost my uh, wireless, wlan0, with the ndiswrapper, I did a system dist-upgrade, and poof o.o
[02:49] <Warbo> nclife: You need to make sure you have permission to execute it as well (right click on it and go on properties>permissions)
[02:49] <hajuu> Anyone able to help me get my ident server working with irc? I need to identify with some bots through it
[02:49] <linuxcrazy> oh no!
[02:49] <linuxcrazy> chmod it
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> chmod a+rwx
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> enter the root password
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> go root first
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> then chmod it
[02:50] <Samuli^> navyn, well maybe try reinstalling it apt-get --reinstall install alacarte
[02:50] <nclife> oks
[02:50] <tritium> linuxcrazy: the root account is disabled by default
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> sudo passwd
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> enable it
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> enter a new password
[02:50] <tritium> linuxcrazy: that's not the preferred advice here
[02:51] <linuxcrazy> ok
[02:51] <linuxcrazy> fine
[02:51] <tritium> !sudo
[02:51] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:51] <xero> ok, so I have been a windows sysadmin/programmer for ~ 10 years anyone care to answer some truly n00b questions?
[02:51] <linuxcrazy> ok
[02:51] <xero> =] 
[02:51] <linuxcrazy> shoot
[02:51] <linuxcrazy> lol
[02:52] <signature16> can somebody help me with this MySQL problem:  http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?10,90574,90574#msg-90574
[02:52] <xero> what is the point of sudo
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> rofl
[02:52] <rootaccess> sweet
[02:52] <xero> if it can do what the root account can
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> to go root
[02:52] <xero> i understand what sudo doe
[02:52] <xero> does
[02:52] <tritium> xero: security benefits
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> xero: to be able to exevute files
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> yesh
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> no virues
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> almost impossible
[02:52] <nickrud> xero, to ensure that a root password does not exist, so people brute forcing root password won't get it
[02:52] <Warbo> xero: By using sudo you can avoid root altogether
[02:53] <tritium> linuxcrazy: there are >715 people here.  Please try to minimize use of the enter key
[02:53] <linuxcrazy> looks like your flooding yourself tridium. ^^^
[02:53] <xero> now that makes sense!
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> rfol
[02:54] <rootaccess> !sudo rootaccess
[02:54] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rootaccess
[02:54] <tritium> linuxcrazy: I don't hit enter between sentences.  I use periods.  See?
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> ok
[02:54] <xero> so as such, when installing software you should use sudo instead of enabling the root acct
[02:54] <raptros-v76> periods
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> yes.
[02:54] <apathy> hey, any n00b helpers in here?
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> yes
[02:54] <rootaccess> !tell rootaccess sudo
[02:54] <tritium> xero: yes, that would be preferred, but it is up to you in the end
[02:54] <eric_pee> !tell rootaccess about sudo
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> apathy: go ahead
[02:54] <juice>  hey people what is the latest release of ubuntu?
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> dapper
[02:54] <apathy> ok, here is my goal and what is happeneing
[02:55] <tritium> juice: breezy until June 1 (then dapper)
[02:55] <raptros-v76> who uses periods to break up sentences use semicolons ; the other day i got shot in the phace
[02:55] <juice> where can I find it
[02:55] <apathy> I am on a fesh install of 5.10
[02:55] <juice> just the download section
[02:55] <linuxcrazy> ok
[02:55] <hangfire> what are they changing the name from breezy to dapper?
[02:55] <apathy> I want to go dual head with my ati 9000 through the svideo out...
[02:55] <linuxcrazy> kubuntu or ubuntu?
[02:55] <viator> im trying to compile fvwm and i get this error
[02:55] <viator> X11 libraries or header files could not be found.  Please make
[02:55] <viator> sure the X11 development package is installed on your system
[02:55] <Warbo> juice: For either release I would download 5.10 (if you want the newer, but not finished, release just upgrade the 5.10 after it is installed)
[02:56] <rootaccess> !tell rootaccess about list
[02:56] <apathy> I have no problem getting display in dos, but when my resolution gets higher it scrambles
[02:56] <juice> oh ok thanks
[02:56] <viator> which package is that refering to?
[02:56] <juice> I was a little confused
[02:56] <juice> thank you
[02:56] <tritium> !info fvwm
[02:56] <ubotu> fvwm: (F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.5.14-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2914 kB, Installed size: 6444 kB
[02:56] <linuxcrazy> apathy: need to edit xorg.conf
[02:56] <linuxcrazy> you know how?
[02:56] <xero> Is there anyway to get a screen depth larger then 1024x768?
[02:56] <apathy> i tried doing sudo aptitude install xorg- whatever
[02:56] <linuxcrazy> yes
[02:56] <martin> #ubuntu.mx
[02:56] <linuxcrazy> nono
[02:56] <hangfire> can someone tell me what the difference between breezy and dapper is?
[02:56] <linuxcrazy> xorg.conf
[02:57] <tritium> hangfire: lots
[02:57] <linuxcrazy> edit it
[02:57] <linuxcrazy> put in the resolutions you want
[02:57] <apathy> so
[02:57] <ubuntu> Hi, I want to search gcc on Ubuntu
[02:57] <apathy> I am assuming this is a refresh rate issue?
[02:57] <martin> #ubuntu-es
[02:57] <tritium> apathy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:57] <hangfire> well I cant find dapper anywhere, where do you get it?
[02:57] <viator> i dont want the version in the sources
[02:57] <linuxcrazy> apathy: nano etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:57] <viator> i have special patches
[02:57] <tritium> !tell hangfire about dapper
[02:57] <apathy> ty tritium, ill brb after trying that
[02:57] <linuxcrazy> edit the V and H to your liking
[02:57] <tritium> apathy: ok
[02:58] <ubuntu> but there is no gcc present then what I do
[02:58] <tritium> sudo apt-get intsall build-essential
[02:58] <Warbo> Does anyone know if eagle-usb is in the 2.6.16 kernel?
[02:58] <tritium> install, that is
[02:58] <hangfire> thanks tritium
[02:59] <Tonren> he he he he
[02:59] <Tonren> I just had to look up the manpage on paste
[02:59] <Tonren> "man paste"
[02:59] <Samuli^> hangfire, you might not get it now. new flight 8 is scheduled for friday/saturday
[02:59] <wims> can i upgrade to dapper by changing repositories to dapper and do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  ?
[02:59] <apathy> shoot, how many kb is 128mb? lol
[02:59] <Warbo> wims: Yes (I did)
[02:59] <tritium> Warbo: yes, wims.  #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[02:59] <Kickersny> 128*1024
[02:59] <apathy> ok
[03:00] <apathy> 131072
[03:02] <svdp12> Hi, I recently installed cedega so I can play games, but does anyone know how to enable open GL and 3D acceleration
[03:03] <Tonren> Hey.. is there a general GNU IRC chat?  Or, like, linux IRC chat?  or one that just deals iwth the use of bash and terminals and stuff?
[03:03] <apathy> ok, that was the first sudo command to succesfylly run haha
[03:03] <tritium> svdp12: ati or nvidia?
[03:03] <apathy> however, in there it said that it would only configure one monitor
[03:04] <apathy> so how do I manually configure it to run a TV on the second one?
[03:04] <Samuli^> tonren, there's ##linux
[03:04] <bimberi> Tonren: there is #linux
[03:04] <Tonren> naturally
[03:04] <Samuli^> #linux is moved.
[03:04] <bimberi> Samuli^: ah, thanks :)
[03:04] <Tonren> Samuli^: Eh?
[03:04] <Samuli^> it's ##linux now :)
[03:05] <richiefrich> Tonren, hes #penguinslair
[03:05] <xero> Has anyone setup open-xchange on brezzy successfully?
[03:05] <apathy> hrm
[03:05] <Arrick> well, guys its time for lost, gotta go
[03:05] <Arrick> I gotta see it
[03:06] <awolf> Hi.  I'm having issues with nvidia drivers.  When I change to the nvidia driver, as compared to nv, the screen goes black and no log file is made, but my computer is crashed.
[03:06] <tritium> apathy: you'll have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for that
[03:06] <apathy> anyone have any ideas?
[03:06] <apathy> thought so
[03:06] <tritium> awolf: you installed the ubuntu packages (per wiki guidance)?
[03:06] <awolf> yes.
[03:06] <apathy> that would be sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[03:07] <tritium> awolf: no /var/log/Xorg.0.log at all?
[03:07] <tritium> apathy: captical X in X11
[03:07] <xero> so I added a different screen depth to the xorg.conf file using sudo gedit xorg.conf but the resoultion isnt showing up?
[03:07] <apathy> gotcha
[03:07] <tritium> capital, even
[03:07] <apathy> brb
[03:07] <bpont> anyone know if there is an irc channel that focuses on kernels, specifically, configuring them and discussing the options?
[03:07] <awolf> When it crashes, there are no logs created.  Correct.  The /var/log/Xorg.0.log refers to the last time X started that wasn't with the nvidia driver.
[03:07] <Samuli^> xero, you need to restart X.
[03:08] <xero> Thank you Samuli
[03:08] <awolf> I've found similar problems on the ubuntu forums, but there are no answers as to what causes it.
[03:08] <kapputu> I have some networking questions. Where should I ask them?
[03:08] <hangfire> did this channel just die, it was pumping a minute ago
[03:09] <hangfire> so is breezy the the latest and hoary the stable or the other way around?
[03:09] <kapputu> breezy the latest
[03:09] <apathy> do I add a new section for another monitor?
[03:09] <kapputu> it's also stable
[03:09] <tritium> hangfire: hoary is old, breezy is latest stable release
[03:09] <hangfire> ok, thx trit
[03:09] <Warbo> hangfire: Breezy is latest stable, Dapper is not yet released officially (still in Beta)
[03:09] <xero> and sun is backing it now for their server software =] 
[03:09] <Tonren> the latest "stable".... hehehe
[03:09] <bpont> hangfire: hold out until june first...dapper will be released
[03:09] <niki> anyone know how to install punkbuster?
[03:10] <hangfire> thanks for that info bpont, where can I download dapper when its ready?
[03:10] <tritium> !tell hangfire about dapper
[03:10] <Warbo> hangfire: You can install Breezy now and upgrade it to Dapper later
[03:10] <niki> nvm!
[03:10] <niki> got it lol
[03:11] <bpont> hangfire: don't know the exact URL, but if you just go to the homepage, it should be promoted and linked from there
[03:11] <kapputu> I have some networking questions. Where should I ask them?
[03:11] <awolf> tritium, any ideas?
[03:11] <hangfire> ok, thx Warbo and bpont
[03:11] <fiendskull9> hey
[03:11] <kapputu> any channel where I can ask networking questions?
[03:11] <fiendskull9> where can i get the source for Ubotu?
[03:11] <fiendskull9> !ubotu
[03:11] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[03:11] <rpedro> can anyone help get a tv tuner configured?
[03:11] <rpedro> *help me
[03:11] <tritium> awolf: regarding?
[03:11] <Rhine> How do i see why a program crashes? Im tryin to use Rhythmbox but i crashes on startup with no explanation
[03:11] <bpont> hangfire: Warbo is right...personally, i'd prefer a clean install of Dapper...just put in a new hd and i'm waiting for dapper
[03:12] <awolf> black screen with nvidia
[03:12] <tritium> awolf: did you restart gdm?  (sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart)
[03:12] <fiendskull9> !source
[03:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:12] <hangfire> ok bpont, I'll wait for dapper, clean install would be better
[03:13] <Warbo> hangfire: If you could see my system you wouldn't follow my advice :)
[03:13] <awolf> Yes.  and I've restarted the machine.  Using nvidia crashes X before it can even make a log file.
[03:13] <bpont> hangfire: if you're fairly n00b to ubuntu, you could install breezy now...make mistakes and play around with it...then blow it away and start clean when dapper comes out
[03:13] <tritium> awolf: I've not seen that before
[03:13] <cva> for some reason, my sound decided to die on me today. I was listening to some music and got an
[03:13] <hangfire> well it seems that all the cool new Linux programs only run on dapper, so Im ready to jump ship to dapper
[03:13] <cva> oops, let me finish that
[03:14] <rpedro> I've been looking for a simple howto on configuring a tv card to work with, for example, tvtime but haven't found anything? the card is a pinnacle 310i DVB-t
[03:14] <Rhine> How do i run Rhythmbox from the console
[03:14] <Warbo> Rhine: Just type rhythmbox
[03:15] <tritium> Rhine: you can't outside of X (console), but you can in a gnome terminal
[03:15] <apathy> tritium? do I just duplicate the monitor section and tweak it?
[03:15] <hajuu> Anyone able to help me get my ident server working with irc? I need to identify with some bots through it
[03:15] <Rhine> OK then i found my problem what does this mean GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate 1949249340 bytes
[03:15] <Rhine> aborting...
[03:15] <Rhine>  It cause rhythmbox to crash
[03:15] <tritium> apathy: essentially, but make sure the H & V settings are right
[03:15] <slackern> hajuu: I installed oidentd
[03:15] <hajuu> Yeah me too
[03:15] <Warbo> Rhine: To find the command for a menu item just drag it from your menu to your panel and check out it's properties
[03:15] <apathy> awesome, afk a sec
[03:15] <hajuu> Its running and everything..
[03:15] <hajuu> but still no ident
[03:15] <marc_> hajuu: firewall?
[03:16] <hajuu> nein
[03:16] <hajuu> none
[03:16] <hajuu> nor router of anykind
[03:16] <Syedburns> Either I'm tired or clearsigning the coc is one heck of a hazing ritual. For some reason my signed text just isn't matching, argh.
[03:16] <marc_> can you telnet to port 113 even from localhost?
[03:16] <slackern> hmm you opened ports for ident?
[03:16] <vbgunz> when a program crashes, does ubuntu keep a general log around so to inspect what the cause might be?
[03:16] <hajuu> slackern: opened them in what? theres nothing to block them
[03:17] <Rhine> How do i find what is taking up disk space?
[03:17] <hajuu> I can telnet to port 113
[03:17] <marc_> hajuu: telnet localhost 113
[03:17] <slackern> hajuu: how could i know that? most people have some kind of router/firewall nowadays :)
[03:17] <marc_> ok
[03:17] <hajuu> slackern: because I said so, directly before you asking if I opened the port  :P
[03:17] <hajuu> lawl
[03:17] <Warbo> Rhine: KDE has a program called filelight (in a package of the same name)
[03:17] <helpneeded> hello all
[03:17] <slackern> hajuu: oh sorry, didn't see it.
[03:18] <hajuu> :D
[03:18] <apathy> tritium, the H and V I am assuming are horizSync and VertRefresh but what would be good values for a TV?
[03:18] <Rhine> Thank you Warbo
[03:18] <helpneeded> can someone help with ? on installing  o/s dapper
[03:18] <apathy> and does it have to have a unique section name?
[03:18] <tritium> apathy: right, and I'm not sure, since I've not setup a TV on X
[03:18] <apathy> i.e. monitor2
[03:18] <hajuu> So, any ideas?
[03:19] <helpneeded> installs ok reboots  then get message cannot load operating system
[03:19] <Warbo> Just a general question, has anyone had any bad experiences with Moho (animation program) and Ubuntu? The demo seems fine
[03:20] <bimberi> Rhine: or there's the "du" command - 'du -hs *' will show the usage of files and directories in the current directory
[03:20] <slackern> hajuu: thinking, how are you registered to the bots i mean what are they looking for? hajuu@host ?
[03:20] <hajuu> they are looking for lolatyou2@host
[03:21] <hajuu> but I run my irc as lolatyou2
[03:21] <hajuu> lol
[03:21] <helpneeded> dont know much about  linux ...can anyone help ?
[03:21] <slackern> ahh, i see, hmm maybe need to adjust some stuff in oidentd since it uses your username hajuu
[03:22] <Warbo> helpneeded: What gives you that messag? The BIOS (PC's bootup), GRUB (linux bootloader) or something else?
[03:22] <helpneeded> unsure ..
[03:22] <helpneeded> thast all it says
[03:23] <xero> I must go for the evening everyone, thank you for all of your help =] 
[03:23] <tritium> good night, xero
[03:23] <helpneeded> pc is fine before hand
[03:23] <helpneeded> was a clean install
[03:24] <helpneeded> dapper flight 7 i believe
[03:24] <Warbo> helpneeded: I have found that many BIOSs will give a message like "Operating System Not Found" if there is no disk in the machine (or it's disk has failed). If so then this is not a Linux problem, it is a drive problem. Have you ever had problems with your hard disk (also check there is no floppy in the drive)
[03:24] <apathy> ok tritium, rebooting to see if it worked
[03:24] <slackern> hajuu: hmm do a 'man oidentd.conf' and check at the bottom there looks like you need to make a ~/.oident.conf file for how you should be identified.
[03:24] <tritium> apathy: ok
[03:24] <apathy> i did some googling for some ideas...
[03:24] <hajuu> yeah just reading it now
[03:24] <helpneeded> no no no to alll new disk less than a month old .... xp was running on it
[03:25] <slackern> hajuu: I know i did it before, but it was probably 4-5 years ago :)
[03:25] <Warbo> helpneeded: Try enering the BIOS setup and see if it finds your Hard drive
[03:25] <helpneeded> took it off and done a fresh clean install ...  mno floppy on machine
[03:25] <viator> whats the name of the gtk package i get this error With GTK+ required for FvwmGtk?     no: Failed to detect GTK
[03:25] <Warbo> entering, sorry. Usually F2, Del or something
[03:25] <helpneeded> hold
[03:26] <Warbo> helpneeded: If your disk is detected then you probably have no bootloader on it (you need to install GRUB to it's MBR)
[03:27] <codecaine> anybody know how I can dual boot ubuntu I have windows installed and want to partition it with ubuntu but I have raid on my hds
[03:27] <hajuu> slackern: hm cant quite see where I can specify another username to identify me as
[03:28] <hajuu> conf file doesnt.. seem to be *for* that unless I want to send my own ident reply.. but then I have to learn to write an ident reply? wtf
[03:28] <slackern> hajuu: i'll paste it just a sec
[03:28] <helpneeded> ah ok .... checked  bios  disks is detected ... changed boot order  from d:c to c:d ... still same message
[03:29] <Warbo> helpneeded: You may need to install GRUB to the disk's master boot record (mbr). You can do this from a livecd
[03:29] <helpneeded> ah ok ... can you give me advice on that as dont know much about linux commands
[03:29] <ricky_> Hello
[03:29] <Warbo> helpneeded: Do you know it's device name? (like /dev/hda or something) If so then "grub-install /dev/hda" will install it
[03:30] <gagamel> I installed ies4linux and iexplore,  but other application based on windows Xp. How do i install other application based on windows.
[03:30] <ricky_> can anyone tell me how to get my display settings above 640X480
[03:30] <hyphenated> !resolution
[03:30] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:30] <helpneeded> default settings were chosen  dapper flight 7  through gui
[03:30] <Warbo> gagamel: Use "wine setup.exe" where setup.exe is the program's windows installer
[03:31] <slackern> hajuu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14198 try that one
[03:31] <slackern> hajuu: maybe you need to do 'sudo /etc/init.d/oidentd restart' afterwards too
[03:32] <Warbo> helpneeded: Is your disk an internal IDE one (usually it is) in which case it is /dev/hda
[03:32] <gagamel> Warbo: thanks. I Know...but..ies4linux make other wine setting at .ies4linux. so wine SETUP.exe dis not work...
[03:33] <Warbo> gagamel: I don't know about ies4linux, but you can configure WINE with "wineconfig" or "winecof" or something like that. Installers work fine for me if they are installed to $HOME/.wine
[03:33] <hajuu> ok probably have to restart irc too
[03:34] <slackern> hajuu: still hajuu@host :)
[03:34] <awolf> Hi.  I'm having issues with nvidia drivers.  When I change to the nvidia driver, as compared to nv, the screen goes black and no log file is made, but my computer is crashed.
[03:34] <awolf> I've found similar problems on the ubuntu forums, but there are no answers as to what causes it.
[03:35] <hajuu> yep
[03:35] <hajuu> wtf
[03:35] <hajuu> oh but!
[03:35] <hajuu> theres no ~ now
[03:35] <VR_> hey all, i see that shipit is closed
[03:35] <hajuu> at least
[03:35] <hajuu> so the ident is working
[03:35] <VR_> is that a good thing?
[03:35] <tritium> !enter
[03:35] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[03:35] <hajuu> lol
[03:35] <Warbo> awolf: Have you tried both methods of installing (packages and NVidia binary)?
[03:36] <awolf> yes.
[03:36] <bimberi> VR_: gearing up for dapper i'd say
[03:36] <apathy> ok, that didnt work man
[03:36] <helpneeded> yes to the internal disk ?
[03:36] <Xbox_guru> hey, is the bittornado different then the default bittorrent
[03:36] <hajuu> Xbox_guru: yep
[03:37] <Samuli^> Xbox_guru, You'd be better off with a newer version of bittorrent from bittorrent's site than either of those.
[03:37] <apathy> so, I tried editing the system>preferences>screen resolution and that only had options for my main monitor
[03:37] <Xbox_guru> can I go into bittornado's settings and change the port and stuff
[03:37] <Warbo> helpneeded: OK then. If you boot into a livecd (Ubuntu livecd should do) and run the command "grub-install /dev/hda" it should put the GRUB bootloader onto your disk (we can sort out it's configuration once it is installed)
[03:37] <Samuli^> bittorrent 4.4.0 is sweet.
[03:37] <gagamel> Warbo: this is error msg after "winecfg"
[03:37] <gagamel> Warbo: -> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[03:37] <helpneeded> coll ... hold  livecds  just loading
[03:37] <slackern> Xbox_guru: Personally i prefer bittornado before the official ones, for me it's more responsive or how i should put it.
[03:37] <helpneeded> cool
[03:38] <Samuli^> slackern, even the newer ones from bittorrent's site?
[03:38] <slackern> Xbox_guru: and it has more options like superseeding and such
[03:38] <cva> My sound card stopped working today. I was listen to some music, and when an IM message notification started it died. More info here http://pastebin.com/723851 but basically everything looks good. the device is detected and works fine in another system, but will not make a sound anymore.
[03:38] <viator> !gtk
[03:38] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, viator
[03:39] <cva> the system had been running for several weeks without issue and nothing has changed on it.
[03:39] <slackern> Samuli^: i downloaded the latest one earlier today too but i ditched it after trying it a while, it's better than the one than comes with ubuntu but i still prefer bittornado
[03:39] <helpneeded> command run from consold window ?
[03:39] <cva> if I use the onboard audio it works fine, but is too limiting
[03:39] <Samuli^> slackern, I've always found bittornado.. messy?
[03:39] <emptyshell> does anyone here use aaMule on ubuntu?
[03:39] <Warbo> gagamel: There should be a .wine folder in your home and in there I have a folder called drive_c and I have dosdevices which contains links to various "drives" called c, d, a and stuff
[03:39] <crimsun> cva: I need the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[03:39] <ba> Samuli^, uTorrent
[03:39] <viator> whats the gtk+ package called and the dev package?
[03:39] <viator> in the repos
[03:39] <Samuli^> ba, that's a great one.
[03:39] <Hajuu2> uhm
[03:40] <slackern> Samuli^: hehe well it's no beauty to look at but hey :p
[03:40] <Samuli^> but I don't feel like running wine.
[03:40] <Warbo> helpneeded: You can run the command from any terminal (console or gnome-terminal)
[03:40] <ba> uTorrent is the best one i have used so far
[03:40] <ba> and it runs so smooth
[03:40] <Hajuu2> slackern,  [Hajuu2]  (i=lolatyou@dip-220-235-56-254.wa.westnet.com.au): lolatyou2
[03:40] <Hajuu2> wtf
[03:40] <Hajuu2> i=?
[03:40] <Samuli^> ba, you're using it through wine, right?
[03:40] <helpneeded> cool
[03:40] <ba> Samuli^, no i run windows alot of the time, because of my laptop
[03:40] <slackern> hajuu: heh evil things ;)
[03:40] <cva> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/723855
[03:41] <Samuli^> ba, ooo-kay.
[03:41] <ba> Samuli^, although im sure it would run fine in wine
[03:41] <Rhine> Is there an equalizer in Ubuntu?
[03:41] <Hajuu2> Ok so slackern im running xchat as user lolatyou2.. but im only lolatyou@host... wtf
[03:41] <Samuli^> Rhine, don't use equalizers, they're evil things :/
[03:41] <Warbo> Rhine: Not system wide, but maybe JACK can do it?
[03:41] <gagamel> Warbo: thanks. Ies4linux make default configure(ie. programm folder) for iexplore. so other setup is not work.....
[03:41] <crimsun> cva: amixer set 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[03:42] <apathy> tritium, you there?
[03:42] <Rhine> Er i wondering becuase i think something screwed up my speakers becuase it sounds likle crap all of the sudden
[03:42] <Warbo> gagamel: Maybe stick your stuff in the same place as IE instead of .wine?
[03:42] <slackern> Hajuu2: heh i have no idea whats happening, maybe something preventing identd to have a number in it.
[03:42] <Rhine> earlier i was listening and suddenly it went really loud
[03:42] <Warbo> Rhino: If PCM is too high it can do that
[03:42] <Rhine> >.< i think i might have blown out
[03:42] <Toma-> Hajuu2: pretty sure theres an 8 letter limit on idents
[03:42] <Hajuu2> uhm
[03:43] <cva> crimsun: thank you very much. I've googled and gone through the wiki all day to no avail
[03:43] <Hajuu2> well I HAD lolatyou2 on mirc
[03:43] <Toma-> was it freenode?
[03:43] <Hajuu2> no.
[03:43] <apathy> anyone familiar with xorg.conf?
[03:43] <Samuli^> Rhine, you've propably blown the elements then.
[03:43] <Rhine> Yeah i think it was PCM :/
[03:43] <slackern> different rules on servers then perhaps
[03:43] <Rhine> it sounds fine now
[03:43] <Rhine> Yep
[03:43] <Rhine> all fixed thanks
[03:43] <Warbo> Rhine: Double click your volume control applet and turn down PCM to around 3/4 and increase with your speaker's volume after that
[03:43] <Warbo> np
[03:43] <Hajuu2> oh yeah its ok on undernet
[03:43] <crimsun> cva: np
[03:44] <Rhine> Scared me there these are nice speaks :O
[03:44] <apathy> im guessing thats a no haha
[03:44] <slackern> hajuu: you saw that you can set the ident for which server you connect too
[03:44] <Hajuu2> but.. the bots still dont recognise me.
[03:44] <Hajuu2> awsome.
[03:44] <Toma-> Hajuu2: welcome to the wonderful forld of inconsistencies :)
[03:44] <Samuli^> well, not really.
[03:44] <Warbo> Rhine: I dump my audio through my HiFi so I can instantly shut it off if I need to
[03:44] <hajuu> bah
[03:44] <apathy> saymy name for a special treat
[03:45] <Samuli^> warbo, I don't in fear I migh break them.
[03:45] <Rhine> I lost 15gbs of music recently on my windows drive and im stuck with the 7 cds i actuall own till i can bring back the files somehow
[03:45] <apathy> *is invisable*
[03:45] <Samuli^> rhine, what do you mean by lost?
[03:46] <Rhine> The drive crashed >.<
[03:46] <slackern> hajuu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14199 check that one out, maybe you can change some there.
[03:46] <apathy> ok, joining another channel
[03:46] <Samuli^> agh :/
[03:46] <Warbo> Samuli^: Well, I fear the most because of my home-made cable to connect the PC output to the HiFi auxillary (however you spell it)
[03:46] <Rhine> So im taking the oppurtunity to rip everything in to FLAC
[03:46] <Samuli^> warbo, auxiliary :)
[03:47] <Warbo> Anyway, I better go cos it's late (early?) bye. Someone may need to help helpneeded to install GRUB to hda
[03:51] <jonah__> dli, have you gone?
[03:51] <dli> jonah__, too late for you, you can get it later
[03:52] <jonah__> dli, what do you mean? i was just thanking you again - just joking how tired i'll be tomorrow i didn't mean i'd had enough
[03:53] <dli> jonah__, okay
[03:53] <apathy> ok, anyone there?
[03:53] <jonah__> dli, i'll do an all-nighter if we can get it working!! i'd hate to have just wasted time and be tired for nothing
[03:54] <apathy> ok, anyone feel like actually acknowledging me now?
[03:55] <apathy> do section titles have to be unique?
[03:55] <apathy> nvm
[03:55] <apathy> tired of this crap
[03:56] <ricky_> ok how do i edit my xorg.conf file
[03:56] <ricky_> i can open it in text editor but cant make any change to it
[03:56] <apathy> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:56] <nnn0> change it somehow :D
[03:56] <nnn0> k
[03:56] <nnn0> hehe
[03:57] <ricky_> k will try that
[03:57] <kepht> what are section titles?
[03:57] <apathy> lol
[03:57] <apathy> im going to shoot myself
[03:57] <apathy> in the toe so it hurts really bad before I die
[03:57] <wims> lol
[03:57] <GTroy_> hey guys, do games on linux require less resources than their windows counterparts?
[03:58] <apathy> ...
[03:58] <Samuli^> no.
[03:58] <apathy> same resources
[03:58] <apathy> the OS takes less resources tho
[03:58] <aziz_> hey guys any one here from pakistan?
[03:58] <Samuli^> tux-racer is pretty light.
[03:58] <GTroy_> hmm
[03:58] <GTroy_> say quake 4
[03:58] <GTroy_> it looks like the minimum reqs. are less than in windows
[03:58] <Samuli^> apathy, you think it does?
[03:59] <GTroy_> Samuli^
[03:59] <apathy> ?
[03:59] <nnn0> of course, on windows it's not just the game which uses resources :DDD
[03:59] <Samuli^> my dapper/gnome is slower than windows anyways.
[03:59] <apathy> winxp is a system hog
[03:59] <GTroy_> yes linux takes way less resources than windows
[03:59] <helpneeded> can someone help with thre boot problem
[03:59] <apokryphos> !helpme
[03:59] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[03:59] <mjb> heya,  Can anyone tell me whats the usual cause for load averages to climb exponentially?
[03:59] <helpneeded> have tried advice give  ...
[03:59] <Elazar> I've installed Gaim 2.0.0b3 and FF 1.5.0.3 as per the Ubuntu wiki and now links I click on in Gaim IMs won't open in FF. Any suggestions?
[04:00] <helpneeded> but get following message ...
[04:00] <GTroy_> how much difference would there be between a linux game box, and a windows game box?
[04:00] <GTroy_> with same hardware?
[04:00] <GTroy_> with say dapper?
[04:00] <Samuli^> GTroy_, a lot less games for linux :)
[04:00] <alan`> yeah
[04:00] <apathy> but wine is good i hear
[04:00] <GTroy_> I haven't had windows in over a year
[04:00] <helpneeded> could not find device for /boot : not found or not a block device
[04:01] <GTroy_> wine gets junky with a little age
[04:01] <Samuli^> GTroy_, but I wouldn't be expecting any performance boot and perhaps a lot of troubles.
[04:01] <apathy> bummer
[04:01] <casper> hi
[04:01] <GTroy_> samuli^ for going with linux games?
[04:01] <slackern> GTroy_: If you ask me i only play wow and in windows it runs smooth and in linux tried both cedega and wine built from source it's usually around 15-20 fps for me while in windows 40-80
[04:01] <casper> how ca i pm?
[04:02] <Samuli^> GTroy, yeah. 3d-drivers for linux aren't exactly trouble-free
[04:02] <GTroy_> slackern: you've answered my question that I didn't know how to ask
[04:02] <nnn0> casper, use /query
[04:02] <slackern> GTroy_: oh great :P
[04:02] <GTroy_> slackern: have you run native quake 4?
[04:02] <wims> are there som apt-get command for getting firefox v1.5 ?
[04:02] <themaan> hello
[04:02] <GTroy_> !firefox1.5
[04:02] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:03] <slackern> GTroy_: No i haven't got that game, im sorry, but quake 3 ran fine i remember when i played it in linux a few years ago
[04:03] <GTroy_> hmmm
[04:03] <themaan> I got a powerbook 1400cs, really old, and I was wondering if linux would work on it
[04:03] <helpneeded> can someone help with a boot problem ...
[04:03] <themaan> any type
[04:03] <Elazar> I've installed Gaim 2.0.0b3 and FF 1.5.0.3 as per the Ubuntu wiki and now links I click on in Gaim IMs won't open in FF. Any suggestions?
[04:03] <GTroy_> if I can avoid windows at all costs
[04:03] <themaan> and how to get floppies for it
[04:03] <watson540> slackern: although, have you ever tied 'renicing' your cedega processes?? it does wonders for cedega and CS on my box :)
[04:03] <helpneeded> tried live cd install ...
[04:03] <themaan> it has 117 mghz
[04:03] <themaan> and 16 mb of ram
[04:03] <apathy> ill be back later
[04:03] <watson540> goes from choppy to awesome and i run 1024.768 opengl
[04:03] <Samuli^> themaan, I'm sure there's linuxes that work with it.
[04:03] <themaan> ubuntu?
[04:03] <GTroy_> watson540: have you used many native linux games?
[04:03] <Samuli^> themaan, perhaps damn small linux?
[04:03] <themaan> ;'
[04:03] <helpneeded> comp reboots but gett error message cannot lod operating system
[04:04] <themaan> its fine on memory
[04:04] <slackern> watson540: I've tried most i could but i have a ATi card and it's not exactly good in linux, i bet with a newer nvidia it would work much better.
[04:04] <themaan> got a gb of that
[04:04] <Samuli^> Themaan, nope, not ubuntu.
[04:04] <watson540> GTroy_: no , sorry i played tux racer a few times thats it..installed some loki games like UT2k and stuff but its been a whiule
[04:04] <lufi> anyone notice dapper is buggy as hell right now?
[04:04] <GTroy_> slackern: I've used secondlife in linux under nvidia card, worked fine
[04:04] <themaan> so there are linuix that work on macs
[04:04] <watson540> i just know if our wine/cedega games are chopppy you can renice them to make them better
[04:04] <Samuli^> lufi, nope.
[04:04] <themaan> any recomendations
[04:04] <GTroy_> watson540: ok thanks
[04:04] <themaan> I could of done a google search
[04:04] <slackern> lufi: more stable than ever for me :)
[04:04] <lufi> it takes about five minutes to log into gnome
[04:04] <Samuli^> themaan, ubuntu
[04:04] <themaan> but I reallly came here for an opinion
[04:05] <themaan> will it work
[04:05] <themaan> or fuck it up
[04:05] <Samuli^> yeah.
[04:05] <lufi> totem is not playing dvds properly
[04:05] <Samuli^> work.
[04:05] <GTroy_> themaan: I wouldn't try it
[04:05] <lufi> cupsys doesn't install without errors
[04:05] <watson540> slackern: well i  have a ati radeon 9800 with 128mb and ive yet to see a game i cant play :)
[04:05] <themaan> but I want to
[04:05] <casper> what fcuk means?
[04:05] <watson540> just takes a lot oof forum diving :)
[04:05] <themaan> what do you think the minimum ram for linux?
[04:05] <GTroy_> !fcuk
[04:05] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GTroy_
[04:05] <GTroy_> hehe
[04:05] <slackern> watson540: oh i have 9800pro 128mb too but flashed to an XT since i have a r360 gpu on it :)
[04:05] <Samuli^> themaan, just take the one with ppc.
[04:05] <GTroy_> !google fcuk
[04:05] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GTroy_
[04:05] <casper> i had fcuk on my t-shirt what it meanz?
[04:06] <themaan> ppc?
[04:06] <watson540> hrm, i would be afrraid to flash my video card
[04:06] <lufi> I'm thinking now I should have bought a mac when I went through the last upgrade cycle
[04:06] <GTroy_> themaan: I think you need a little more speed and memory
[04:06] <helpneeded> any one ??????????????????????
[04:06] <GTroy_> but you could try it
[04:06] <themaan> 117 mghz isnt that good
[04:06] <slackern> watson540: i've flashed it back and forth so many times now, i even made a bootable usbstick with freedos and batfiles to change bioses :)
[04:06] <Samuli^> themaan, powerpc, that's the processor mac's are using.. up until now.
[04:06] <themaan> I have had worse computer
[04:06] <themaan> s
[04:06] <GTroy_> I know you can run 486 with linux
[04:06] <Elazar> I've installed Gaim 2.0.0b3 and FF 1.5.0.3 as per the Ubuntu wiki and now links I click on in Gaim IMs won't open in FF. Any suggestions?
[04:06] <themaan> oh
[04:06] <themaan> that thing
[04:06] <themaan> well intel is better
[04:07] <themaan> but linux dont work with ppc?
[04:07] <GTroy_> Elazaar: use right click and copy the links to your browser
[04:07] <Samuli^> themaan, works all right.
[04:07] <mjb> hi
[04:07] <Samuli^> I have few friends who use linux on their macs.
[04:07] <themaan> then why wont boot camp workon ppc
[04:07] <slackern> ubuntu has a ppc release doesn't it?
[04:07] <casper> i had fcuk on my t-shirt what it meanz?
[04:07] <GTroy_> slacker: yes
[04:07] <Samuli^> slackern, yes.
[04:07] <themaan> well this is a really old computer
[04:07] <GTroy_> !google
[04:07] <ubotu> I heard google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[04:07] <lufi> why does gstreamer work, then not work, then work again . .
[04:07] <mjb> Somethings causing my load average to boil over...
[04:07] <GTroy_> what's the google command people?
[04:08] <themaan> so linux could work
[04:08] <Samuli^> is there on?
[04:08] <mjb> Whats the best way to diagnose?
[04:08] <themaan> jsut would take alot of memory
[04:08] <themaan> and stuff
[04:08] <Elazar> GTroy_: Just wanted to see if there wasn't a way to fix whatever broke. :P
[04:08] <themaan> can I seperate the disk onto flopies
[04:08] <Samuli^> themaan, damn small linux is around 40mb
[04:08] <Elazar> GTroy_: I know about the right-click feature, it's just a pain.
[04:08] <derekS> is there a way to play an mp3 via commandline?
[04:08] <Samuli^> there's a lot of different linux-distros around.
[04:08] <themaan> what about swap memory?
[04:08] <slackern> mjb: open a terminal and type 'top' in it and see what is using all the cpu. it will sort processes depending on how much cpu they use.
[04:08] <Samuli^> smallest of them could fit into a single floppy.
[04:08] <helpneeded> can someone help with this boot problem ???????????????????????????
[04:08] <themaan> its got 12 mb of memory
[04:09] <rootaccess> I am getting an error while trying to compile airsnort... checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found
[04:09] <GTroy_> Elazaar, sorry I never bothered to fix that problem
[04:09] <themaan> on the hting
[04:09] <GTroy_> so I don't know
[04:09] <themaan> my friend said something about..
[04:09] <themaan> 1 sec
[04:09] <GTroy_> helpneeded: what's the problem?
[04:09] <rootaccess> i dont see gtk+ in synaptico
[04:09] <rootaccess> -o
[04:10] <GTroy_> helpneeded: you just need to ask
[04:10] <themaan> mk linux
[04:10] <themaan> http://www.mklinux.org/
[04:10] <mjb> yep... unfortunately it usually freezes the system... Is there anything useful in the messages logs?
[04:10] <helpneeded> sorry ?????? iv asked 3-4 times said what problem was ...
[04:10] <blank_> how do i make gdm my default manager again, I accidentally cahnged it to kdm
[04:10] <themaan> look workable?
[04:10] <GTroy_> rootaccess: have you set your reopositories right?
[04:10] <pschulz01> What is the best way to play an arbitary sound file from the command line under ubuntu?
[04:10] <rootaccess> yea...
[04:11] <blank_> my manager is kdm, how do i change it back to gdm
[04:11] <GTroy_> helpneeded, sorry I came to ask a question too
[04:11] <Kyral> blank_: you can tell the difference?
[04:11] <rootaccess> i dont see airsnort in the repository list
[04:11] <mjb> the cpu usage is low it's just the load average that takes off..
[04:11] <helpneeded> lol
[04:11] <tritium> !info airsnort
[04:11] <ubotu> airsnort: (WLAN sniffer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.2.7e-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 184 kB
[04:11] <blank_> Kyral, well, at the beginning, login screen, it looks different...
[04:11] <rootaccess> so i looked for gtk+ -- found lots of different gtk stuff but no gtk+
[04:11] <Kyral> blank_: its called a theme :P
[04:11] <tritium> rootaccess: you need to setup universe repo
[04:11] <Samuli^> pschulz01, aplay?
[04:11] <blank_> Kyral, Even so, how do you change it.
[04:12] <tritium> rootaccess: aircrack is much improved over airsnort
[04:12] <pschulz01> Samuli^: I'll have a look, thanks..
[04:12] <blank_> Kyral, don't know?
[04:12] <GTroy_> rootacces, I've noticed sometimes packages come packaged with other apps
[04:12] <C|int> hey, can anyone help me figure this out,
[04:12] <Kyral> run sudo apt-get reconfigure gdm
[04:12] <Kyral> I think
[04:12] <C|int> o install, extract the tarball to the Ubuntu Linux host in a temporary directory, and run ./runme.pl as sudo or root.
[04:12] <C|int> -failure to follow step 1 will result in an unsuccessful vmware-config.pl (complaints of missing vmmon kernel modules and the inability to find "make")
[04:12] <blank_> Kyral, invalid operation: reconfigure
[04:12] <Kyral> configure :P
[04:13] <wims> !firefox
[04:13] <C|int> I do that, and I get that bs
[04:13] <wims> !firefox1.5
[04:13] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:13] <lufi> dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[04:13] <C|int> I been in ubuntu-offtopic all day, and look like people sleeping
[04:13] <Kyral> yah thats it
[04:13] <Kyral> man my Apt skills are gone
[04:13] <rootaccess> aircrack... IS DOWNLOADING THANKS FOR THE HEAD UP :)
[04:13] <GTroy_> apt rules!!!
[04:13] <helpneeded> ok can someone help me get this o/s to boot ?????
[04:13] <slackern> mjb: not quite sure only time i had problems with high loadavg was when i had massive I/O activity on a ftp server i helped to administer
[04:13] <rootaccess> srtyy bout caps...
[04:13] <Kyral> Pacman :P
[04:13] <tritium> rootaccess: now don't do anything bad with that
[04:14] <lufi> anyone else get a brown screen for about 5 minutes while booting into gnome?
[04:14] <C|int> can anyone help with vmware intall, I got all the information, and I am trying do an update, before I install vmware so it will work, and nothing,
[04:14] <mjb> this is a desktop... the big apps are eclipse, firefox and rhytmbox
[04:14] <GTroy_> luft, no
[04:14] <lufi> I'm running a dual core em64t system
[04:14] <AnarkiDotNET> headcount: people seeding ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso torrent? :)
[04:14] <lufi> it's super annoying
[04:15] <GTroy_> AnarkiDoNET, why would you not be torrenting dapper beta2?
[04:15] <lufi> what's up with the dvd playback in vlc
[04:15] <lufi> it seems broken as well
[04:15] <GTroy_> luft, switch to gmplayer
[04:15] <lufi> everything is brok!!!!??$#$
[04:15] <lufi> gmplayer works but doesn't show subtitles properly
[04:15] <AnarkiDotNET> cause this is the one on the download page, and i'd rather not use a beta
[04:16] <GTroy_> arnarkinotnet, ok
[04:16] <lufi> I like linux, but this is testing our relationship
[04:17] <AnarkiDotNET> i'm converting from windows server 2003 enterprise -> ubuntu (ubuntu was reccomended by folks in #apache) and...how difficult is it going to be to copy my stuff from my other comp, with the files and stuff i had on my windows server?
[04:17] <C|int> anybody,, knows what this means, get a look of it, Unable to open the installer database /etc/vmware/locations in read-mode.
[04:17] <C|int> Execution aborted.
[04:17] <C|int> :-(
[04:17] <lufi> AnarkiDotNET, use scp
[04:17] <lufi> download a prog called putty
[04:17] <lufi> for windows
[04:18] <lufi> and do a scp from the command line
[04:18] <helpneeded> am does anyone answer ? here
[04:18] <AnarkiDotNET> er..k
[04:18] <lufi> helpneeded, what help do you need
[04:18] <nnn0> :)
[04:18] <helpneeded> jesus ... iv asked 4-5 times now
[04:18] <AnarkiDotNET> so ubuntu cant access the network shares windows has?
[04:18] <helpneeded> said waht it was#
[04:19] <helpneeded> waited about 10-15 mins
[04:19] <lufi> AnarkiDotNET, http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:19] <lufi> AnarkiDotNET, sure it can use smb
[04:19] <wy> anyone with automake experience here? I have some guestions
[04:19] <mjb> thanks for answering.. .I'll do a bit more research ... I need to know more about tracing  kernel activity...
[04:19] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: you compiled your own kernel ?
[04:19] <lufi> but doing a scp is a lot more robust, I find
[04:19] <nnn0> donno - i use mepis, when i got boot problems i just boot from the cd and reinstall grub :)
[04:20] <helpneeded> nope  live cd install from dapper  flight 7
[04:20] <nnn0> i'm on simplymepis 6.0b3
[04:20] <tritium> helpneeded: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[04:20] <helpneeded> installs perfect  no erros but when reboot ... get message cannot  lod operating system ...
[04:21] <bimberi> helpneeded: could be a bad disk or grub didn't install properly ...
[04:21] <nnn0> helpneeded, do use use scsi or something ?
[04:21] <bimberi> ubotu tell helpneeded about grub
[04:21] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: do you know where you installed grub to ?
[04:21] <helpneeded> nope standard everthing ...
[04:21] <helpneeded> where ever the default install location is ...
[04:22] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: maybe you could run grub-install from the livecd
[04:22] <helpneeded> through the dapper installer
[04:22] <helpneeded> ok  i tried that ...  used  ./... grub-install  /dev/hda1
[04:22] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: that didn't work ?
[04:23] <helpneeded> nope  ... so tried sudo  get error message
[04:23] <helpneeded> same in both cases ...
[04:23] <LinuxJones> :(
[04:23] <LinuxJones> Is windows on that comp ?
[04:23] <helpneeded> could not find device for /boot: not found  or not a block device ...
[04:24] <helpneeded> nope its a clean install
[04:24] <helpneeded> gparted gives info ...
[04:24] <LinuxJones> mmm, did you create a seperate /boot partition ?
[04:24] <helpneeded> nope default settings
[04:25] <helpneeded> used all of disk
[04:25] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: I always create a 100 meg /boot partition on /dev/hda1
[04:25] <helpneeded> gave me 72  3 gb swap in extended
[04:25] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: it should still work with 1 partition tho, probably easiest to re-install and use ext3 partition types.
[04:25] <ighost> does anyone know if the bug where ubuntu eats the windows partition on certain is still around in breezy?
[04:26] <helpneeded> ythats the default settings
[04:26] <ighost> *certain configurations
[04:26] <helpneeded> so what am i missing
[04:26] <helpneeded> grunb loader ?
[04:26] <helpneeded> grub loader
[04:26] <bimberi> ighost: there was an issue with the live installer which has been fixed since Beta 2
[04:27] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: there might be some issues with the livecd installer you should join #ubuntu+1 and ask in there, that's the official Dapper support channel....Good Luck
[04:27] <ighost> bimberi: really? last time i tried ubuntu was warty (not livecd)
[04:28] <ighost> bimberi: and it ate my windows partition, so it doesn't do that any more?
[04:28] <ShellMaza> i gots a problem
[04:28] <ShellMaza> i installed nvidia 8756 moudles and such into my kernel
[04:28] <bimberi> ighost: kk, we're probably talking about different issues then.  No it doesn't do that (intentionally) :) ).  Backups are always good though
[04:29] <ShellMaza> now i;m to the point where i have to installed nvidia-glx
[04:29] <ShellMaza> its complaining i'm missing x11-common
[04:29] <ShellMaza> but5 when i try to install a .deb of x11-common, it says it conflicts with xorg-common
[04:29] <ironpacake> how do you register?
[04:31] <ShellMaza> ne1?
[04:31] <Xbox_guru> hello, what program do I use to install windows drivers for my soundcard
[04:32] <ShellMaza> xbox, what card?
[04:32] <Xbox_guru> Crystal Logic
[04:32] <bimberi> ubotu tell ironpacake about register
[04:33] <ShellMaza> Alsa or asla dosen't work?
[04:33] <ighost> bimberi: ya, think you're right. i was told that this was a rare issue only on certain hardware configurations, and that they were working on it.
[04:33] <Xbox_guru> shell: nope, when I use the volume control it says no elements or devices to control
[04:34] <ShellMaza> humm
[04:34] <ShellMaza> did u change ur sound config?
[04:34] <Xbox_guru> 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[04:34] <ShellMaza> i remmber seeing crystal logic in the kernel
[04:34] <Xbox_guru> that's what it comes up as in lspci
[04:34] <ShellMaza> so i should be supported
[04:35] <Xbox_guru> I guess it isn't, and I already updated breezy
[04:35] <ShellMaza> im still trying to get my gforce 6600 running
[04:35] <panchita> hello
[04:35] <ShellMaza> with nvidia kernel modules and current drivers
[04:35] <ShellMaza> but nvidia-glx has a dep problem
[04:36] <panchita> i need the iso image of ubuntu 4.10
[04:36] <Xbox_guru> is there a program where I can use windows drivers for it
[04:36] <ShellMaza> y?
[04:36] <ShellMaza> google ur sound card for Alsa Settings
[04:36] <Xbox_guru> ?
[04:36] <Xbox_guru> alsa?
[04:36] <panchita> where i can download?
[04:37] <panchita> please...
[04:37] <ShellMaza> Advance Linux Sound somthing
[04:37] <ShellMaza> its all ready installed bud
[04:37] <tritium> panchita: are you sure you want it?  It's so old that it's no longer supported.
[04:37] <spikeb> sound architechture
[04:37] <spikeb> spelled correctly, of course
[04:38] <Xbox_guru> well then why would I have no sound and volume control say no elements or devices to control.
[04:38] <ShellMaza> 1 sec
[04:38] <panchita> yes, i have a computer whit a 200mhz and 32mb ram
[04:38] <ShellMaza> System -|> Pref -|> Sound
[04:38] <mr_hus> Is it me or hinting makes fonts look bad on a LCD? I turned off hinting and fonts look a lot more like they do in OS X...
[04:38] <GeorgeAScott> hey hey
[04:38] <tritium> panchita: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/4.10/release/
[04:39] <panchita> thanks tritium
[04:39] <tritium> panchita: sure.  You might also look into using xubuntu (with xfce)
[04:39] <Xbox_guru> shellmazza: there is no default soundcard!!!!, the drivers for it arent loading
[04:40] <ShellMaza> is ur sound card supported by linux?
[04:40] <Xbox_guru> I don't know...
[04:40] <GeorgeAScott> can anybody tell me how to remote desktop a ubuntu machine from xp
[04:40] <ighost> does ubuntu support 802.11g network cards nowadays?
[04:40] <ShellMaza> if not, then we should result to forguirn drivers
[04:40] <tritium> yes, ighost
[04:40] <tritium> ShellMaza: which is the "ur" card?
[04:40] <ShellMaza> not mine
[04:40] <ShellMaza> Xbox_gurn
[04:41] <tritium> ur is the model?
[04:41] <Xbox_guru> the lspci came up with this
[04:41] <ighost> tritium: does it still use that ndis thing?
[04:41] <Xbox_guru> 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[04:41] <ShellMaza> my problem is a dep conflict with nvidia-glx v8756
[04:41] <tritium> ighost: some do, some don't
[04:41] <ighost> tiritum: so some are supported natively?
[04:41] <AnarkiDotNET> err.....
[04:41] <tritium> ighost: yes.  Which do you have?
[04:41] <ighost> tritium: linksys
[04:42] <ShellMaza> pci?
[04:42] <ShellMaza> wpm11 v1?
[04:42] <AnarkiDotNET> why did the ubuntu configuration setup step just say "configuring bycyclerepair"?
[04:42] <ighost> tritium: i think it has broadcom chip
[04:42] <ShellMaza> check the verion
[04:42] <ShellMaza> on the card
[04:42] <spikeb> HEH
[04:42] <tritium> ighost: broadcom will be supported in dapper
[04:42] <spikeb> AnarkiDotNET: apparently there's something called bycyclerepair on your system
[04:43] <Xbox_guru> shell: how...
[04:43] <ighost> tritium: alright, thanks
[04:43] <AnarkiDotNET> lol
[04:43] <AnarkiDotNET> "Ubuntu - It even repairs your bycycle!"
[04:43] <tritium> AnarkiDotNET: apt-cache show <packagename> to find out more about it
[04:43] <codecaine> anybody know the location of the make command?
[04:43] <ShellMaza> XFX GeForce 6600, help
[04:43] <jonuk> help!
[04:43] <jonuk> :)
[04:43] <AnarkiDotNET> its still installing...
[04:44] <Xbox_guru> i ran the lspci and it came up with this, 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[04:44] <Xbox_guru> that's my soundcard
[04:44] <Xbox_guru> yes I'm running an older computer
[04:44] <nnn0> that's probably not the soundcard, but the chipset
[04:45] <tritium> codecaine: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:45] <ShellMaza> pull the sound card ut
[04:45] <ShellMaza> and read the maker
[04:45] <Xbox_guru> nnno: then how would would I fix it?
[04:45] <panchita> tritium: i have a problem with nic-extra modules-2.6.10-5
[04:45] <jonuk> First, I'm on Windows right now...wanting to installed Ubuntu Breezy on my 2nd hard drive.  My first drive is completely taken by Windows (40GB), my second drive is 250GB.  When I start the installer, it gets to the "Starting Partitioner" stage, it loads to 100% then the screen goes blank and the partitioner never starts.  If I hit Ctrl+C, it hangs at 52% every time.
[04:46] <tritium> panchita: like what?
[04:46] <Xbox_guru> jonuk, what speed did you burn the iso at
[04:46] <panchita> when i install it the system
[04:46] <jonuk> I'm not sure, but it was pretty fast...it burned in about 5 minutes or les
[04:46] <jonuk> less
[04:47] <Xbox_guru> jonuk, burn the iso at the slowest possible speed
[04:47] <Xbox_guru> and try again
[04:47] <jonuk> okay, will do...can I ask one more question?
[04:47] <Xbox_guru> yea
[04:48] <tritium> jonuk: there is no question limit :)
[04:48] <Xbox_guru> :-P
[04:48] <jonuk> does this look like an alright way to set up my partitions? 10GB /root - primary, 20GB /home - logical, 1GB SWAP, 219GB NTFS /usr
[04:48] <ShellMaza> yup
[04:48] <tritium> sure, jonuk, depending on your needs
[04:49] <ShellMaza> but usr NTFS????
[04:49] <daddyANKEE> I nedd help installing flash player, after i download it tells me to type ./flashplayer-installer from the comand line but nothig happens, which is the comand line?? anybody please
[04:49] <jonuk> basically, I just want some space to install some programs on Linux, and use the rest of the drive for storage of media files
[04:49] <jonuk> Shell:  I don't really understand the "mount"
[04:49] <jonuk> what should I mount the NTFS to?
[04:49] <jonuk> I just want linux to be able to read the music/picture/video files
[04:50] <ShellMaza> not ntfs
[04:50] <ShellMaza> vfat
[04:50] <ShellMaza> linux cant write to ntfs
[04:50] <Xbox_guru> i'll google up some stuff about my sound card and see what I get
[04:50] <Xbox_guru> nite
[04:50] <ShellMaza> like ur expecing it to
[04:50] <jonuk> oh ok
[04:50] <panchita> tritium: have you any recomendation?
[04:50] <jonuk> so i should set it up to be vfat?
[04:50] <ShellMaza> yes
[04:50] <ShellMaza> but not /usr
[04:50] <jonuk> okay, where to
[04:50] <ShellMaza> like /windows/shared
[04:50] <TraceGreen> Hello, i don't have /dev/snd in my system, but i can load alsa modules and play ogg music, why?
[04:51] <tagabasak_> anyone here can help me on how to upgrade my flash player?
[04:51] <ShellMaza> trace /dev/alsa
[04:51] <jonuk> Shell: okay, thank you so much
[04:51] <ShellMaza> no problem
[04:52] <ShellMaza> ok, who here is running offical nvidia drive 8756 with a geforce 6600?
[04:52] <daddyANKEE> you guys suck thanks fo nothing
[04:52] <ShellMaza> daddyANKEE?
[04:52] <Kr0ntab> heya folks.  good evening
[04:53] <codecaine> hmmm vmware tools make ubuntu run slower
[04:53] <jonuk> okay, one more question :)
[04:53] <GTroy_> shellmaza, I was running a 6200 with 8756 and had problems
[04:53] <jonuk> this is in regards to the burning the ISO at a slower rate
[04:53] <tagabasak_> anyone here can give me a wiki or help on how to upgrade my flash player?
[04:53] <jonuk> i tried unplugging my 40GB hard drive and running the installer...and the partitioner worked
[04:53] <ShellMaza> kewl
[04:53] <GTroy_> !flash
[04:53] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:54] <jonuk> but i stopped it because i wanted to try and resolve the problem with them both working
[04:54] <ShellMaza> maybe a ide conflict
[04:54] <jonuk> so that GRUB would set up easily
[04:54] <panchita> thanks
[04:54] <jonuk> do you think that would indicate that it's not the CD?
[04:54] <pkh> is it difficult to install the ati proprietrary drivers on a non-networked pc (my brothers, 30mins drive from the nearest net connection...)
[04:54] <eduedix> which app prefered for dvd and cd writing in gnome ?
[04:54] <ShellMaza> jonku, install all to other drive
[04:54] <ShellMaza> set it as first boot device
[04:54] <pkh> I got him a new pc and want him to try ubuntu
[04:54] <GTroy_> eluedix, k3b
[04:55] <ShellMaza> then add windows option to grub
[04:55] <GTroy_> or gnomebaker
[04:55] <jonuk> also, when I was playing with the LiveCD...it stalled when it tried "Starting Enterprise Volume Management", but I hit ctrl+c and got past it
[04:55] <daddyANKEE> I need help installing flashplayer it tells me to type ./flashplayer-installer from the comand line but nothing happens what is the comand line?
[04:55] <jonuk> I'm assuming they're related
[04:55] <ShellMaza> daddyANKEE, does it day command not found
[04:55] <GTroy_> daddyankee are you in the right directory?
[04:55] <ShellMaza> is this for mozilla?
[04:55] <GTroy_> can you see flashplayer-installer when you type ls?
[04:56] <ubuntu> can't see videos from ubuntu live CD
[04:57] <ubuntu> any idea?
[04:57] <signature16> if i add a MySQL user ( create user userx identified by 'userxpass';) why wouldnt i be able to login to mysql with that username?
[04:57] <ShellMaza> did you assign that user a database?
[04:58] <eduedix> which app prefered for dvd and cd writing in gnome ?
[04:58] <daddyANKEE> yes it tells me to navigate to that directory and from the comand line type ./flashplayer-installer but nothing happens ??  I tried it a bunch of times allredy????
[04:58] <ShellMaza> navigate means goto the directory where flash is
[04:58] <ubuntu> by
[04:58] <ShellMaza> like /home/username/someinstallflashflder
[04:59] <bimberi> eduedix: for data cd/dvd's?  nautilus (the file manager)
[05:00] <adam_> hey all
[05:00] <bimberi> hi adam_
[05:00] <ShellMaza> nvidia-glx version 8756 is having a DEP problem
[05:00] <adam_> hm
[05:00] <adam_> 704 ppl
[05:00] <adam_> nice
[05:00] <adam_> ...
[05:00] <adam_> Er yea...so
[05:00] <ShellMaza> but the dep its looking for is x11-common, but aint that the same as xorg-common
[05:01] <griz1> I have a question I am using Dapper and I can't get VHCS server to work plus my updates don't work right It says I have errors
[05:01] <spikeb> 90% of the channel is never around at the same time
[05:01] <spikeb> so it's mostly parked nicks :)
[05:01] <adam_> hm
[05:01] <adam_> :)
[05:01] <adam_> argh
[05:01] <adam_> just as i get on
[05:01] <adam_> ned to go
[05:01] <adam_> lol
[05:01] <griz1> any one can help please do thanks...
[05:01] <adam_> the irony of life...parents raise u, and then they want u off ure own computer
[05:01] <adam_> XD
[05:01] <adam_> peace all
[05:02] <bimberi> phew, !enter was iminent
[05:02] <daddyANKEE> yes it tells me to navigate to that directory and from the comand line type ./flashplayer-installer but nothing happens ??  I tried it a bunch of times allredy????
[05:02] <bimberi> !dapper
[05:02] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[05:02] <SopWATh> daddyANKEE, are you looking at a command line interface? (also called the terminal)
[05:03] <griz1> Thanks
[05:03] <jonuk> When the Starting Partitioner stage hangs...if I hit Ctrl+Alt+F3 (i think) it comes up and says something like File Descriptor not found 1, file descriptor not found 2, etc, etc...then says somtehing like Reading all physical volumes this could take awhile...
[05:03] <mrproper> How can I find out what resolution and refresh rates my monitor and video card are capable of spitting out?
[05:03] <jonuk> and that's where it stalls
[05:03] <jonuk> I don't know if that helps any
[05:04] <evilmegaman> Hi I am using mepis  but I think this question applies to ubuntu too. I am trying to figure out how to make wifi start at boot time
[05:04] <daddyANKEE> sopWATh,im dont know how would i tell
[05:05] <tagabasak_> how can i upgrade to flash player 8?
[05:05] <mrproper> tagabasak_, Is it even out for Linux yet?
[05:05] <spikeb> tagabasak_: it's not out yet, nor will it be. there's a beta of flashplayer 8.5 though
[05:06] <tagabasak_> mpoic
[05:06] <Blake79> can someone send me the man for adding windows partitions....again :)
[05:06] <mrproper> spikeb: There's a beta nice!
[05:06] <tagabasak_> oic
[05:06] <tagabasak_> i thought it is out already
[05:06] <Elazar> GTroy_: If you're interested, I think I found a fix for that issue with the latest Gaim not opening links in the latest Firefox. Posted it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompileGaim#head-3ac59b4b89815654f5013d02c3773147c9715b61
[05:06] <mjb> I had a wifi card that would freeze the system at boot, a little shell script was a good soluttion
[05:06] <daddyANKEE> sopWATh,im dont know how would i tell
[05:06] <mrproper> http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/public_beta/
[05:06] <SopWATh> daddyANKEE: You would have to manually open a terminal for you to be in one. Usually it looks a lot like a DOS window, but it should be just text
[05:06] <spikeb> tagabasak_: for some reason, they skipped version 8 for linux
[05:06] <mrproper> spikeb: It's not out for Linux yet
[05:06] <evilmegaman> mjb, this one just doesn't start without me forcing it to
[05:07] <spikeb> wtf
[05:07] <spikeb> there's a beta of nine?
[05:07] <spikeb> heh
[05:07] <mrproper> spikeb: But it's not for Linux apparently.
[05:07] <tagabasak_> spikeb, have u tried upgrading?
[05:07] <eduedix> which app prefered for dvd and cd writing in gnome ?
[05:07] <spikeb> tagabasak_: no, there's no flash plugin for my arch
[05:07] <mjb> ok... I tried sudo rmmod ndiswrapper and it wouldnt load at boot... then a simple two line script
[05:08] <mjb> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper ... then sudo iwconfig essid ....
[05:08] <evilmegaman> How do  I make a command script?
[05:08] <mjb> this resulted in a more stable system and less headaches
[05:08] <tagabasak_> spikeb, to bad i can visit the site that uses flash 8
[05:09] <jonuk> I'm going to ask this again, just in case someone has an alternative solution:
[05:10] <jonuk> First, I'm on Windows right now...wanting to installed Ubuntu Breezy on my 2nd hard drive.  My first drive is completely taken by Windows (40GB), my second drive is 250GB.  When I start the installer, it gets to the "Starting Partitioner" stage, it loads to 100% then the screen goes blank and the partitioner never starts.  If I hit Ctrl+C, it hangs at 52% every time.
[05:10] <KaosX> sounds like a bad source disk
[05:10] <KaosX> did you validate the md5?
[05:10] <ShellMaza> Ok, Lets try this again, i built the current nvidia-kernel mopdules into my kernel, when i goto install the nvidia-glx for 8756, it complains about a missing Dep x11-common, but aint x11-common the same as xorg-common, and how to i resolve this?
[05:11] <jonuk> KaosX...no.  But I did try unplugging my 1st hard drive (40gb), and running the installation disk...and the partitioner loaded
[05:11] <mjb> I just write a file using an editor add #!/bin/sh on the first line add those two lines of code I mentioned and then make it executeable...
[05:11] <eduedix> which app prefered for dvd and cd writing in gnome ?
[05:11] <Blake79> i just installed xine-ui through terminal command.  How do i access once i apt get?
[05:11] <jonuk> So that leads me to believe its not the CD
[05:12] <mjb> you may need a better shell scripts 101 lesson from the net
[05:12] <ShellMaza> jonuk
[05:12] <KaosX> eduedix: you want k3b
[05:12] <ShellMaza> remove 40gig
[05:12] <ShellMaza> install on other drive
[05:12] <ShellMaza> set first boot device in bios to 250gig drive
[05:12] <ShellMaza> add windows boot to grub on 250 gig
[05:12] <ShellMaza> problem solved :)
[05:12] <evilmegaman> mjb I see
[05:12] <KaosX> but he's getting frozen on 52% either way
[05:12] <jonuk> Shell, okay okay.  :)
[05:13] <evilmegaman> But if I make the file, how do I get the file to load?
[05:13] <jonuk> KaosX...no I don't get frozen if I have my 1st hard drive unplugged
[05:13] <KaosX> Thats an odd issue then
[05:14] <mjb> best of luck
[05:14] <ShellMaza> Ok, Lets try this again, i built the current nvidia-kernel mopdules into my kernel, when i goto install the nvidia-glx for 8756, it complains about a missing Dep x11-common, but aint x11-common the same as xorg-common, when i try to install x11-common it conflicts with xorg-common, please help
[05:15] <tsipper> I am trying to install the newest gtk-gnutella, do I need to download it or can I do an apt-get install update?
[05:16] <mjb> chmod 775  <filename>
[05:16] <mjb> or click on file  properties
[05:16] <tsipper> mjb is that meant for me?
[05:16] <Blake79> Can someone send me the link to mp3 formats and windows partitions please, or tell me where to find them..Oubotu doesn't like me :)
[05:17] <ShellMaza> Blake????
[05:17] <mjb> don't think so I'm lousy at irc
[05:17] <ShellMaza> ur question made no sence to me
[05:17] <Blake79> the help link
[05:18] <Blake79> usually someone will have the ubotu give them to me.   I had to reinstall and need to configure my windows partitions
[05:18] <ShellMaza> /etc/fstab
[05:18] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:18] <ShellMaza> /dev/hda3       /D              vfat    defaults,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,rw        0       0
[05:18] <ShellMaza> to somthing like that
[05:18] <ShellMaza> but fix the /dev/***
[05:19] <ShellMaza> or change vfta to auto
[05:19] <ShellMaza> if u dont know the filesystem
[05:19] <Blake79> there is a script to auto-magically add the partition and have it mount each time i boot.
[05:19] <Blake79> diskmounter script or something
[05:19] <ShellMaza> yup, its called fstab
[05:20] <Blake79> !fstab
[05:20] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[05:20] <Blake79> ok, that's the one!
[05:20] <Blake79> thanks
[05:20] <ShellMaza> !nvidia-glx
[05:20] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ShellMaza
[05:20] <Blake79> there's one more for walking me through upgrading totem for .mpeg format
[05:20] <ShellMaza> damn
[05:20] <ShellMaza> i haven't gotton that far yet
[05:21] <ShellMaza> still trying to get my video card setup
[05:21] <ShellMaza> Ok, Lets try this again, i built the current nvidia-kernel mopdules into my kernel, when i goto install the nvidia-glx for 8756, it complains about a missing Dep x11-common, but aint x11-common the same as xorg-common, when i try to install x11-common it conflicts with xorg-common, please help
[05:21] <Blake79> i see, how about audio?  have you gotten that?
[05:21] <ShellMaza> mine was auto detected
[05:21] <Blake79> i haven't gotten ubuntu to make a peep yet.
[05:21] <ShellMaza> have u looked at dmesg?
[05:22] <Blake79> !dmesg
[05:22] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Blake79
[05:22] <Blake79> nope
[05:22] <ShellMaza> check for boot time errors
[05:22] <Blake79> none during boot up
[05:22] <ShellMaza> sudo dmesg
[05:22] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> is XAMPP stable on ubuntu 5.10?
[05:22] <dli> why "lspci" in ubuntu gives so many unknown device? can I add the device database?
[05:22] <Blake79> gave me a bunch of stuff, can make much of it
[05:23] <ShellMaza> ok
[05:23] <bpuccio> I can boot the dapper live CD fine on a macbook, so I assume it is OK to just use the normal x86 install CD as well? or do I need to do some other things as well to make sure that the computer will be able to boot Ubuntu?
[05:23] <Elmore> i got a question
[05:23] <Elmore> anyone willing to help me?
[05:23] <Blake79> !mp3
[05:23] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:23] <Kickersny> iTunes 6.0.4.2 stopped
[05:23] <ShellMaza> sudo dmesg >> dmesg.txt && sudo chown 1000:1000 dmesg.txt && vi dmesg.txt
[05:23] <lastnode> bpuccio, x86 should be fine, i reckon. you might wanna backup first though.
[05:24] <Elmore> i am on a ubuntu livecd and i wish to watch videos on like break.com, only problem is that on break.com they use windows media player, linux doesn't support windows media player how do i view them?
[05:24] <lastnode> bpuccio, did it find wifi etc alright? the livecd i mean
[05:24] <bpuccio> lastnode: there's nothing to backup, just got it this afternoon
[05:24] <ShellMaza> elmore, are u sure itsd wmf
[05:24] <ShellMaza> not mpeg
[05:24] <Elmore> not sure
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Elmore,  you may be out of luck if its really needing window media player.
[05:24] <ShellMaza> they would most likely be streaming mp3 or mpeg
[05:24] <lastnode> Elmore, on a live cd, it's kinda difficult to install the w32codecs needed
[05:24] <bpuccio> lastnode: I didn't look for wifi yet, according to what I've read it is a linux supported broadcom chip, I'm more worried about the macbook not having a real BIOS and stuff that PCs are used to
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> i agree with ShellMaza .
[05:24] <lastnode> bpuccio, oh lucky you :) go ahead then, shoud be fine
[05:25] <bpuccio> ok, thanks, lastnode
[05:25] <lastnode> bpuccio, that may be a problem, why not run through the first part, without installing packages
[05:25] <lastnode> bpuccio, see if ubuntu finds your ethernet, wifi etc
[05:25] <Elmore> all i need is the location i can download the nessacessary to view the,
[05:25] <Elmore> videos
[05:25] <lastnode> bpuccio, you're using bootcamp for this?
[05:25] <ShellMaza> on a LiveCD?
[05:25] <orz> hihi
[05:25] <lastnode> Elmore, on a livecd you cant. where would ubuntu install these packages?
[05:26] <odat> hi everyone
[05:26] <ShellMaza> ramdisk?
[05:26] <ShellMaza> :P
[05:26] <Elmore> true, a livecd is my only alternative because my HDD died
[05:26] <odat> i installed flash player by downloading it and running the installer  how do i uninstall it ???
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> ShellMaza,  tahts doable with that overlay filesstem stutt. :P
[05:26] <Elmore> there is no way to view those videos?
[05:26] <Elmore> on a livecd?
[05:27] <ShellMaza> elmore, damnsmalllinux.org
[05:27] <ShellMaza> :)
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Elmore,  could try the wolvix media edition live cd.
[05:27] <lastnode> Elmore, as ShellMaza said, you can try downloading toa ram disk, but it's gonna be a pita
[05:27] <Elmore> ok
[05:27] <odat> i installed flash player by downloading it and running the installer  how do i uninstall it ???
[05:27] <Blake79> !audio
[05:27] <ubotu> Blake79: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:27] <Elmore> thanks
[05:28] <ShellMaza> look for a uninstall.sh
[05:28] <Blake79> !sound
[05:28] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:28] <ShellMaza> Ok, Lets try this again, i built the current nvidia-kernel mopdules into my kernel, when i goto install the nvidia-glx for 8756, it complains about a missing Dep x11-common, but aint x11-common the same as xorg-common, when i try to install x11-common it conflicts with xorg-common, please help
[05:29] <ShellMaza> i get the Black Screen Of Death
[05:29] <lastnode> ShellMaza, using apt-get?
[05:30] <ShellMaza> no
[05:30] <ShellMaza> apt-get has OLD stuff
[05:30] <ShellMaza> 7xxx driver version
[05:30] <lastnode> from source, then?
[05:30] <ShellMaza> yes
[05:30] <ShellMaza> well .deb
[05:30] <lastnode> i see
[05:30] <lastnode> deps are a pain w/o a package manager
[05:30] <ShellMaza> i downloaded nvidia-kernel-common 8756
[05:30] <ShellMaza> blah blah
[05:30] <lastnode> im not aware of nvidia modules, have you tried compiling directly in to your kernel?
[05:30] <ShellMaza> rebuilt the kernel with modules_image
[05:31] <ShellMaza> that added it to kernel;
[05:31] <bpuccio> lastnode, it finds my ethernet, the bluetooth, no wifi, but from what I read, I need ndiswrapper and wifi will work, so I'm OK with that
[05:31] <lastnode> checked /lib/modules/uname-r/ ?
[05:31] <lastnode> bpuccio, cool. using bootcamp? id say go for it then. you can always wipe if not needed
[05:32] <ShellMaza> /lib/modules/2.6.16.16-pt+ht+v5/
[05:33] <odat> i installed flash player by downloading it and running the installer  how do i uninstall it ???
[05:33] <ShellMaza> /lib/modules/2.6.16.16-p4+ht+v5/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[05:33] <lastnode> ShellMaza, what does lsmod give you?
[05:33] <ShellMaza> alot
[05:33] <ShellMaza> nvidia               4547732  0
[05:33] <ShellMaza> i2c_core               23424  1 nvidia
[05:33] <bpuccio> well, everyone seems to do it a different way http://modular.math.washington.edu/macbook/ didn't use bootcamp http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Triple_Boot_via_BootCamp uses rEFit (which I don't think I want) and I find yet other methods still
[05:33] <ShellMaza> u want the entire thing?
[05:34] <ShellMaza> agpgart                34148  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[05:34] <ShellMaza> i built this kernel to my system hardware and needs :)
[05:35] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> erm
[05:35] <lastnode> ShellMaza, i run gentoo. :) i build every kernel to my system/hardware needs.
[05:35] <lastnode> ShellMaza, im not really sure how to help you though. never used nvidia drivers.
[05:35] <ShellMaza> when i try to install x11-common~.deb
[05:35] <ShellMaza> it says it comflicts with xorg-common
[05:36] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> for the XAMPP installation it says to login as root with "su" command, i open a terminal and type "su" hit enter, then enter the (only) password i provided during the install process, and it says Authentication Failure
[05:36] <odat> welll thanks
[05:36] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> what password does it want?
[05:36] <ShellMaza> NWiki: sudo xterm
[05:36] <ShellMaza> then type in the new xterm, passwd
[05:36] <ShellMaza> set the root pass
[05:36] <ShellMaza> exit and try again
[05:36] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> k
[05:37] <odat> i installed flash player by downloading it and running the installer  how do i uninstall it ???
[05:37] <ShellMaza> odat, y?
[05:37] <crimsun> odat: remove the files by hand. You probably should have used flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse.
[05:37] <odat> ShellMaza, because i want to install it through a repo so i don't have to manually do it all the time
[05:38] <bimberi> |NWiki|AnarkiNet: use 'sudo -i' with your password to get a root shell
[05:38] <bimberi> !tell |NWiki|AnarkiNet about root
[05:38] <ShellMaza> bimberi, he dosent have the root pass set
[05:38] <odat> crimsun, yea i can't remember what i need to do to remove it by hand
[05:38] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> well
[05:38] <bimberi> ShellMaza: indeed
[05:39] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> i'm just following the XAMPP install instructions which say to do the "su" command then extract the xampp files to /opt
[05:39] <ShellMaza> NWiki: follow my steps
[05:39] <ShellMaza> sudo xterm
[05:39] <ShellMaza> it will ask for YOUR password
[05:39] <tamale> Hello everyone!   My new server-only breezy install is freezing at the "starting hotplug sub-system" and was wondering what the boot option is to turn off AGP support!!
[05:39] <ShellMaza> after that a new terminal will appear
[05:39] <ShellMaza> root@localhost:
[05:39] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> k
[05:40] <ShellMaza> in some cases
[05:40] <ShellMaza> then in the new terminal
[05:40] <ShellMaza> type passwd
[05:40] <ShellMaza> enter a New password for root
[05:40] <ShellMaza> re-enter password for root
[05:40] <ShellMaza> password will now be what u typed
[05:40] <ShellMaza> then exit
[05:40] <ShellMaza> go back to the other terminal and type "su -"
[05:41] <ShellMaza> it will ask you for the root pass
[05:41] <odat> ShellMaza, any idea what i need to do
[05:41] <ShellMaza> since u just set it, now u know it
[05:41] <ShellMaza> why bother man?
[05:41] <ShellMaza> if it works, DONT try to fix it
[05:41] <ShellMaza> :)
[05:42] <bimberi> |NWiki|AnarkiNet: note that 'sudo -i' achieves the same thing - gets you a root login shell (without having to set a root password)
[05:42] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> hmmm now i have to figure out where firefox put the file, it says it downloaded it to the desktop but it aint there
[05:42] <ShellMaza> bimberi, its nice to know the root pass for future stuff
[05:42] <odat> ShellMaza, i'll find it somewhere else that doesn't tell me a philosophy as well
[05:42] <odat> thanks anyway
[05:42] <ShellMaza> cd /home/username/Desktop
[05:42] <ShellMaza> :)
[05:42] <etzerd> hello room
[05:43] <bimberi> ShellMaza: i haven't needed one for 18 months :)
[05:43] <etzerd> can anybody tell me if the ubuntu 5.10 included the latest version of KDE 3.5?
[05:43] <ShellMaza> bimberi, wanna help me with a nvidia problem?
[05:44] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> shell - it says no such file or directory
[05:44] <bimberi> etzerd: no, but you can install it
[05:44] <bimberi> !kde3.5
[05:44] <ubotu> To upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[05:44] <bimberi> ShellMaza: i only know about the wikipage
[05:44] <tamale> My new server-only breezy install is freezing at the "starting hotplug sub-system" and was wondering what the boot option is to turn off AGP support
[05:44] <bimberi> !nvidia
[05:44] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:44] <ShellMaza> change username to your login name for the system
[05:44] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> obviously...
[05:44] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> oh, i was forgetting the first /
[05:44] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> :/
[05:44] <ShellMaza> :P
[05:44] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> my first time using anything *nix based...i prefer server 2k3
[05:44] <etzerd> Thanks everyone
[05:45] <ShellMaza> Ok, Lets try this again, i built the current nvidia-kernel mopdules into my kernel, when i goto install the nvidia-glx for 8756, it complains about a missing Dep x11-common, but aint x11-common the same as xorg-common, when i try to install x11-common it conflicts with xorg-common, please help
[05:46] <tamale> anyone?  :[
[05:46] <Some_Person> How to install without destroying windows?
[05:47] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> try the MS virtualization software :)
[05:47] <ShellMaza> resize partition
[05:47] <Some_Person> with?
[05:47] <Some_Person> (not willing to spend $$$)] 
[05:47] <ShellMaza> the cd
[05:47] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> norton partitionmagic 8.0 works good
[05:47] <ShellMaza> the installer has a partition manager
[05:47] <revrogue> :) mornin
[05:47] <ShellMaza> should let u resize
[05:48] <Some_Person> not free
[05:48] <ShellMaza> ubuntu CD
[05:48] <ShellMaza> FREE
[05:48] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> it is if you know where to look
[05:48] <Some_Person> i have the free cds i got in the mail
[05:48] <ShellMaza> stick in the cd
[05:49] <ShellMaza> boot to it
[05:49] <ShellMaza> when it comes to partition
[05:49] <ShellMaza> select advance or expert
[05:49] <ShellMaza> resize windows partition to about 20GB lesss
[05:49] <Some_Person> will it destroy windows?
[05:49] <ShellMaza> then add a swap partitle of about 1gig
[05:49] <ShellMaza> then add a ext3 patitial
[05:49] <ShellMaza> nope
[05:49] <ShellMaza> i did i here
[05:49] <ShellMaza> on a 250gig
[05:50] <tritium> !enter
[05:50] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:50] <Some_Person> Yay!
[05:50] <ShellMaza> that held nothing but software :P
[05:50] <revrogue> hello I have a question about some vid probs with ubuntu an a x64 sys
[05:50] <nnn0> heh
[05:50] <ShellMaza> ?
[05:50] <ShellMaza> got ya
[05:50] <tamale> anyone know anything about boot options?
[05:51] <Some_Person> and, can i continue to use WinXP's bootloader?
[05:51] <ShellMaza> no
[05:51] <Some_Person> aww!
[05:51] <ShellMaza> grub will over write it, and you can add the windows boot option into grub with ease :)
[05:51] <Some_Person> there is no way at all?
[05:51] <ShellMaza> !grub
[05:51] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:51] <Some_Person> can i just not install GRUB?
[05:51] <ShellMaza> no
[05:52] <Some_Person> what'll happen?
[05:52] <revrogue> I cant get a live boot cd of Ubuntu to load, if I hook up a external monitior to the laptop though I get all the visuals
[05:52] <ShellMaza> u will be able to boot both windows and ubuntu easly
[05:52] <Some_Person> i heard that there was i file i can transfer to windows
[05:52] <Some_Person> that allows use of winxps bootloader
[05:52] <ShellMaza> no
[05:53] <cocox> hi, somebody knows how can i do for change my sudo password ??
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> its the first user you made password.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> so change his password with  passwd (i think)  should change it.
[05:56] <Some_Person> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html?page=last&x-showcontent=text
[05:56] <Some_Person> does this work?
[05:56] <ShellMaza> yes
[05:57] <Asusanator> DCC SEND "123456789101112" 0 0 0
[05:57] <Some_Person> but you said it was impossible.
[05:57] <ShellMaza> its not
[05:57] <ShellMaza> i will use the GRUB boot manager
[05:57] <Some_Person> you said i can't use the windows bootloader.
[05:58] <ShellMaza> windows boot manager
[05:58] <bimberi> heh, pdpc "supporter"
[05:58] <lastnode> http://pastebin.ca/56771 <-- can someone help with that error message?
[05:59] <untung> hi
[06:00] <untung> any one have enable chinese character input in ubuntu?
[06:01] <mick_> how do you create a new panel?
[06:02] <lastnode> mick_, right click, new panel
[06:02] <bimberi> mick_: right-click on an existing one, New Panel
[06:02] <tamale> My new server-only breezy install is freezing at the "starting hotplug sub-system" and was wondering what the boot option is to turn off AGP support
[06:02] <mick_> what if none are existing?
[06:02] <juice> is there a way to check the dvd I burnt from the ubuntu iso
[06:02] <juice> for errors
[06:03] <vort> DCC SEND "stringgreaterthan13characters"
[06:03] <waky> YEAH
[06:03] <mick_> nevermind
[06:03] <juice> how
[06:03] <waky> vort nice action
[06:03] <waky> xD
[06:03] <ShellMaza> should i install the ubuntu nvidia binary drivers and be done with it?
[06:03] <waky> vort nice action <--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[06:03] <tritium> waky: cut it out
[06:03] <bimberi> waky: no encouragement please
[06:04] <ShellMaza> sincei can't use the most reasont from nvidia?
[06:04] <waky> look at this vort write DCC SEND "stringgreaterthan13characters" and many user disconnetct
[06:04] <waky> this is crazy
[06:04] <tritium> waky: I'm fully aware.  that's why I banned him for using a DCC exploit.  Don't encourage him
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> waky,   dont type that. :P lol.
[06:05] <waky> sorry
[06:05] <waky> lol
[06:05] <DarkAura> do you have to buy a special wireless card to use airsnort / aircrack?
[06:05] <waky> this is a problem from netgear  ?
[06:05] <ShellMaza> darkaura, a supported one
[06:05] <waky> with the string
[06:05] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> why do you need a videocard anyway...
[06:05] <tritium> DarkAura: not all are supported
[06:05] <DarkAura> oh -- hehe
[06:05] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> i'm using a Matrox Millenium II with.... 4MB of video ram
[06:05] <DarkAura> wishfull thinking
[06:06] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> it does 1600x1200 @ 85hz smoothly
[06:06] <sneex> How can I determine what "versions" of software are available using apt-cache without having to download them?
[06:06] <cocox> so... if the first user that i made in my Ubuntu is xxx and he has the sudo pass its ok to use the xxx account just for a common use ??
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> cocox,  i do all the time. :P
[06:06] <juice> how can I check the integrity of the ubuntu dvd I just burn?
[06:06] <ShellMaza> ummm
[06:06] <ShellMaza> md5 the isp
[06:06] <ShellMaza> iso*
[06:06] <bimberi> sneex: apt-cache policy foo
[06:07] <sneex> kk
[06:07] <ShellMaza> and compair the md5 checksum
[06:07] <cocox> Dr_Willis, i dont understand you, are you saying that you use for everything the first account that you made?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> cocox,  i have just the 1 user i made.
[06:07] <cocox> Dr_Willis, and you that would be ok ???
[06:07] <sneex> bimberi, ty =)
[06:08] <bimberi> sneex: np :)
[06:08] <Intangir> my sound craps out sometimes for .. some reason i dont know why, after a while OSS sound stops working
[06:08] <Intangir> anything using OSS fails
[06:08] <ShellMaza> question, should i give up on using nvidia 8756 binary driver and use ubuntu's old binary driver?
[06:08] <Intangir> ALSA still works fine
[06:08] <Intangir> even though.. i have OSS working thru alsa
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> cocox,  theres notthing special about that user having the sudo password as well.
[06:08] <Intangir> i usually have to reboot
[06:09] <ShellMaza> restart the sound daemon
[06:09] <ShellMaza> oss is OLD
[06:09] <ShellMaza> use alsa
[06:10] <untung> hi, what is the newest version of ubuntu?
[06:10] <Intangir> some applications cant use alsa
[06:10] <untung> is it version 5.1 or 6?
[06:10] <Intangir> like .. firefox, flash
[06:10] <ShellMaza> dapper which is still beta or alpha
[06:10] <Intangir> cedega also doesnt work on ubuntu for some reason with alsa
[06:10] <ShellMaza> i run 5.10
[06:10] <sneex> Regarding "apt-cache policy apache2" -- is there a way to get at the config.layout and buildconf for that -- or is it included in the source download?  I ask because I wish to build Apache 2.2.2 but using Ubuntu's specifics.
[06:10] <tritium> untung: until June 1, breezy is the latest _stable_
[06:10] <cocox> Dr_Willis, but for me its a problem to have the same pass for a simple account and my root account
[06:10] <Intangir> what sound daemon do i restart?
[06:10] <ShellMaza> only 1 regret is nvidia driver
[06:11] <Madpilot> untung, 5.10 (five point ten) is current, 6.06 is the next one - still in beta
[06:11] <InvisiblePinkUni> anyone here using bacula after compiling from source?
[06:11] <gagamel> I use kate at gnome but work not Highlight. anyone know?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> cocox,  then make a new account its no big deal either way
[06:11] <eumario> Anyone having trouble with NDISWrapper 1.14 or 1.16, getting it compiled, and working?
[06:11] <Intangir> whats the dapper channel?
[06:11] <untung> Madpilot, I found 6.06 distro in the link, are they stable one?
[06:11] <bimberi> Intangir: #ubuntu+1
[06:11] <Madpilot> untung, no, 6.06 is in beta until June 1st
[06:12] <ShellMaza> /etc/init.d/
[06:12] <sneex> #ubuntu+1
[06:12] <ShellMaza> let me look
[06:12] <InvisiblePinkUni> or did anyone install bacula from synaptic without a problem?
[06:12] <cocox> Dr_Willis, yes i know :S i just was wondering about this issue thnx anyway
[06:12] <ShellMaza> /etc/init.d/alsa boolean
[06:12] <untung> Madpilot, i am using 5.1. is there any DVD distro for that version?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> cocox,  its a non-issue :P
[06:12] <ShellMaza> start/restart/stop
[06:12] <Madpilot> untung, I think so, yes. I've never used the DVD versions myself
[06:12] <cocox> Dr_Willis, lol thnx i'm just a noob so its for me lol
[06:13] <ShellMaza> /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
[06:13] <ShellMaza> should fix it
[06:13] <ShellMaza> damn, i didn;t know i knew soo much
[06:13] <ShellMaza> :P
[06:13] <untung> madpilot, i am looking for that as i need to download  a lot to upgrade/ install application
[06:14] <Sandma> evening...still trying...
[06:14] <Sandma> i'm at a terminal window,,,showing 3 folders...
[06:14] <blakeahlberg> can i get help? I definately can't get my network card recognized... I have both the one on my asrock motherboard and i put another old generic one in... and neither are showing up.
[06:14] <ShellMaza> ????
[06:14] <Madpilot> untung, scroll down to the bottom of http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ for the DVD packages
[06:14] <ShellMaza> still trying what
[06:14] <Sandma> what is the command to get into the folder
[06:14] <Madpilot> Sandma, "cd"
[06:14] <ShellMaza> cd foldername
[06:15] <Sandma> tried that like 5 times...tells me there is not folder
[06:15] <ShellMaza> then its a file
[06:15] <sneex> whats folder?
[06:15] <Sandma> no slashes??
[06:15] <ShellMaza> ls -la
[06:15] <sneex> ls -Adl
[06:15] <ShellMaza> is it in blue?
[06:15] <sneex> lol
[06:15] <blakeahlberg> i feel so dumb.
[06:16] <ShellMaza> eh, dont feel that way
[06:16] <ShellMaza> i remember when i swore by M$
[06:16] <sneex> \=
[06:16] <tritium> blakeahlberg: don't worry about it.  You're learning, that's all :)
[06:16] <ShellMaza> now i dont even run it
[06:16] <cocox> anybody have the right dpkg for install amule ???
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> !info amule
[06:17] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB
[06:17] <ShellMaza> yup
[06:17] <blakeahlberg> do you have any idea of what i should try? if it's a pci card it should just show up when you click on the configuration tool, right?
[06:17] <ShellMaza> BSOD!
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> ShellMaza,  that was the least of its problems.
[06:17] <ShellMaza> black?
[06:17] <ShellMaza> blake, huh?
[06:17] <blakeahlberg> jah?
[06:18] <ShellMaza> Dr_Willis, remember kernel crashes
[06:18] <cocox> Dr_Willis, ubotu, what did you do ?? please tell me
[06:18] <ShellMaza> you windows has been stoped to rsude system damage
[06:18] <tritium> cocox: remember that ubotu is a bot
[06:18] <cocox> tritium, lol thanx u
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> cocox,   :P !info packagename
[06:18] <cocox> !info amule
[06:18] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB
[06:19] <ShellMaza> !nvidia-glx
[06:19] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ShellMaza
[06:19] <ShellMaza> !nvidia
[06:19] <tritium> cocox: :)
[06:19] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:19] <blakeahlberg> maybe i'll just give up since i cant get networking to work and go back  to windblows.
[06:19] <InvisiblePinkUni> !info bacula
[06:19] <ubotu> bacula: (Network backup, recovery and verification (Meta-package)), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.36.3-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 120 kB
[06:19] <ShellMaza> im gonna break somthing
[06:19] <ShellMaza> i just knw it
[06:20] <InvisiblePinkUni> !info sudo rm -rf /
[06:20] <tritium> !botabuse
[06:20] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[06:21] <blakeahlberg> *commits suicide because he's spent all day on making this work.*
[06:21] <ShellMaza> omg
[06:21] <Madpilot> InvisiblePinkUni, not funny. Never funny, actually.
[06:21] <ShellMaza> i can't even use ubuntu's nvidia binary drive, my kernel is too new
[06:21] <hangfire> anyone know what kind of java compiler ubuntu comes standard with?
[06:21] <tritium> blakeahlberg: don't worry...
[06:21] <blakeahlberg> why should i not worry?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> hangfire,  i would guess none 'standard'
[06:22] <tritium> blakeahlberg: because there are people here to help.  Is it mission critical?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> hangfire,  you can install gcc, or the sun java tools , or some of the other java packages.
[06:22] <InvisiblePinkUni> Madpilot: whats wrong with some info on that?
[06:22] <InvisiblePinkUni> :p
[06:22] <hangfire> DrWillis, Im hoping that Sun's compiler comes in the ubuntu repository
[06:22] <blakeahlberg> yesh.
[06:22] <ShellMaza> jre
[06:22] <tritium> hangfire: dapper will have Sun's java now ;)
[06:22] <hangfire> gcc is just C/C++
[06:22] <GTroy> I have a ghost image on my twinview?  any help?
[06:22] <Madpilot> hangfire, it will in Dapper, with the relicensing Sun's just done
[06:22] <GTroy> only on one side though
[06:22] <hangfire> ah, cool, good news trit
[06:23] <tritium> GTroy: please, I'm scared of ghosts
[06:23] <GTroy> well I don't think this one haunts
[06:23] <GTroy> I dunno maybe it does
[06:24] <InvisiblePinkUni> ubotu must have some info on why "rm -rf" is a very dangerous command
[06:24] <ubotu> that's too long, InvisiblePinkUni
[06:24] <ShellMaza> so i guess im SOL on my glx
[06:24] <blakeahlberg> tritium, when i don't have internet, it's generally mission critical. mom will get angry after too much usage of her computer.
[06:24] <tritium> ShellMaza: you're not running a stock ubuntu kernel?
[06:24] <ShellMaza> no
[06:24] <ShellMaza> 2.6.16.16-p4+ht+smp
[06:24] <ShellMaza> :)
[06:25] <ShellMaza> built by me
[06:25] <tritium> blakeahlberg: so I've not seen your earlier messages.  When did you lost internet access?
[06:25] <ShellMaza> with nvidia-kernel modules added
[06:25] <ShellMaza> that reflect the current driver 8756
[06:25] <tritium> Okay
[06:25] <tritium> ShellMaza:
[06:25] <tritium> thnka
[06:25] <tritium> thanks
[06:25] <tritium> for
[06:25] <tritium> the
[06:25] <blakeahlberg> trit, my network card isn't being recognized.
[06:25] <tritium> info
[06:25] <tritium> ;)
[06:25] <ShellMaza> sorry, it a old habbit
[06:26] <tritium> No worries, buddy :)
[06:26] <ShellMaza> i gotta break mt self from it, i'm trying very hard to do it
[06:26] <tritium> ShellMaza: so, you build the nvidia ubuntu packages from source, or what?
[06:26] <ShellMaza> my problem resided with nvidia-glx_1.0.8756-4_i386.deb wanting to use x11-common and not xorg-common
[06:27] <ShellMaza> i downloaed the .deb's and built everything my self
[06:27] <elknof1> does enybody knows how to activate the s-video out in a inspiron 600m??
[06:27] <crimsun> !info nvidia-glx dapper
[06:27] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.8756+2.6.15.9-4 (dapper), Packaged size: 3956 kB, Installed size: 12224 kB
[06:27] <elknof1> i've already configure the video card...  ati
[06:27] <tritium> ShellMaza: you're on dapper?
[06:27] <ShellMaza> no
[06:27] <ShellMaza> 5.10
[06:28] <elknof1> by the way   im in breezy
[06:28] <tritium> ShellMaza: okay, no wonder I'm not seeing that dependency the same way
[06:28] <ShellMaza> :) ding ding ding
[06:28] <tritium> ShellMaza: you seem like the type that should try dapper ;)
[06:28] <Gravol> howdy
[06:28] <tritium> hi Gravol
[06:29] <ShellMaza> my system flys, boots in 20 seconds to my desktop, everything fully custom, spalsh, grub, gdm, ect...
[06:29] <Gravol> hi
[06:29] <blakeahlberg> okie, lol. nobody really wants to deal with me. so i'll leave you alone.
[06:29] <ShellMaza> right down to the hardware of my system vs. my kernel
[06:29] <Gravol> is this a help channel?
[06:29] <ShellMaza> yes it is
[06:29] <tritium> ShellMaza: very nnice!
[06:29] <Gravol> alrighty
[06:29] <tritium> Gravol: sure is, amigo
[06:29] <Gravol> :D
[06:29] <Gravol> anywho
[06:29] <Madpilot> blakeahlberg, if you're not getting any response, it's likely because nobody has any answers for you. Hang out, and ask in a while.
[06:29] <ShellMaza> blake, i never understud ur question
[06:29] <Gravol> im very new to linux
[06:30] <Gravol> and i think i removed all my repositories
[06:30] <Gravol> how can i set them back to the default ones?
[06:30] <ShellMaza> reallt? open Add Programs
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Gravol,  just dont get mad when peole tell you to go read stuff. :P lol...
[06:30] <elknof1> lol...  apokryphos always have a clue...
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> !repos
[06:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:30] <tritium> ShellMaza: anyway, it might be worth a try to either try dapper, or build the ubuntu source packages
[06:30] <Gravol> no
[06:30] <Gravol> i mean like adding all repositories
[06:30] <elknof1> apokryphos, do you know how to activate the s-video out??
[06:30] <tritium> Gravol: no sweat.  you'll be back in business in a jiffy
[06:30] <ShellMaza> ur not talking about compliing everything from source :(
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Gravol,  type '!easysource' and read the bot  url. it can make ya a new one.
[06:31] <blakeahlberg> i would think that the answer to the question that i have would be fairly simple... pretty much how do you make linux recognize a new network card? I put it in, the utility still says that there aren't any network devices.
[06:31] <Gravol> !easysource
[06:31] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:31] <Madpilot> graveson, see the 2nd URL in the stuff ubotu just posted for a "stock" official sources list
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> blakeahlberg,  wireless card?
[06:31] <tritium> ShellMaza: if you don't want to, we can check out your problem, or you can try dapper
[06:31] <blakeahlberg> no.
[06:31] <Intangir> how can i restart alsa?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> blakeahlberg,  check to see if the modules are loaded for it?
[06:31] <Gravol> wow this is confusing
[06:31] <tritium> Intangir: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa restart
[06:31] <ShellMaza> ok, how do i upgrade to dapper?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Gravol,  actually its rather trivial. :P
[06:32] <blakeahlberg> how can i load a new module for the new one?
[06:32] <Madpilot> Gravol, sorry, my note above about the 2nd URL was for you...
[06:32] <tritium> Intangir: no, scratch taht
[06:32] <tritium> that
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> blakeahlberg,  use 'lsmod' to see whats loaded.. then if ya know the module name. and its not loaded use modprobe modulename
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> blakeahlberg,  what is the network card anyway?
[06:32] <ShellMaza> the ubuntu 5.10 nvidia-binayr worked but was too old for me
[06:32] <tritium> ShellMaza: well, the dapper ones are newer ;)
[06:33] <blakeahlberg> I dont know, i put a generic one in after the motherboard integrated one didnt work.
[06:33] <ShellMaza> and 8756 has been driving me insane for 5 days
[06:33] <tritium> blakeahlberg: it's not listed in either dmesg or lspci?
[06:33] <nox_freak> got a problem every time I set a default gw route gnome and all gnome packages crash and stop working.
[06:33] <Gravol> ok nvm, putting my sources.list in
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> blakeahlberg,  you need to determine its chipset.  and thus what module it needs.
[06:33] <Madpilot> Gravol, got it sort out, then?
[06:33] <ShellMaza> ok, inserting dapper cd, how my custom stuff dont dissapear :(
[06:34] <Gravol> kindof
[06:34] <blakeahlberg> okay, that would probably be easier for the integrated one...
[06:34] <Madpilot> sorted, even... gah
[06:34] <ShellMaza> is it a clean update? or will i have to reinstall everything?
[06:34] <tritium> ShellMaza: which CD do you have?  You can always dist-upgrade if you change your sources.list
[06:34] <Madpilot> ShellMaza, is your system (under all the custom stuff) still Ubuntu based?
[06:34] <ShellMaza> and murder my network :P
[06:34] <ShellMaza> no
[06:34] <loki_> how do you get a user friendly filesharing  program
[06:34] <loki_> besides amule
[06:34] <ShellMaza> limewizre
[06:34] <Gravol> limewire?
[06:35] <tritium> ShellMaza: it's up to you.  don't do anything you're not comfortable with
[06:35] <Gravol> www.limewire.com
[06:35] <defcon8> limewizzire
[06:35] <ShellMaza> they have a linux version
[06:35] <loki_> limewire how do you install it through
[06:35] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell loki_ about limewire
[06:35] <loki_> i dont have no clue about source code
[06:35] <ShellMaza> after recoding alof of python to get gdesklets working and sutff
[06:35] <defcon8> loki_, there is no source code
[06:35] <ShellMaza> my nightmare returns
[06:35] <defcon8> its in java
[06:36] <loki_> then how do you install it then
[06:36] <defcon8> just dl the tar.gz (for other systems) and: sh runeLime.sh
[06:36] <defcon8> and then it opens the installer
[06:36] <Madpilot> loki_, the bot should have sent you a PM with information
[06:36] <ShellMaza> download it form www.limeware.com and get the linux version, its a rpm
[06:36] <ShellMaza> then do sudo rpm -i File.rpm
[06:36] <ShellMaza> make sure jre is install!!!!
[06:36] <Madpilot> ShellMaza, um, Ubuntu doesn't use rpm...
[06:37] <tritium> ShellMaza: no .deb?  perhaps suggest using alien
[06:37] <ShellMaza> tarball :)
[06:37] <defcon8> loki_, bloody hell just find some stuff out for yourself
[06:37] <ShellMaza> build from source?
[06:37] <ShellMaza> ;P
[06:37] <tritium> defcon8: please be courteous
[06:38] <ShellMaza> so im gonna have to rebuild my kernel aint i?
[06:38] <tritium> ShellMaza: I never do
[06:38] <defcon8> tritium, i was on linux for a year before i knew about irc
[06:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell defcon8 about coc
[06:38] <ori> ShellMaza, for what?
[06:38] <ShellMaza> will the cd do a easy update?
[06:38] <jeff2> "apt-get install php4" tries to install apache2, how can I install php4 for apache 1.3.33?
[06:39] <ShellMaza> install apache first] 
[06:39] <defcon8> Madpilot, oh pardon me. i thought this was #linux
[06:39] <jeff2> ShellMaza, I did, then both versions get installed
[06:39] <loki_> how come i cant install java it says that its not installible
[06:39] <blakeahlberg> when I put in
[06:39] <Madpilot> defcon8, being rude to noobs is acceptable in #linux, is it?
[06:39] <blakeahlberg> oops
[06:40] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell loki_ about java
[06:40] <ShellMaza> loki_, sanaptics search for jre
[06:40] <defcon8> Madpilot, it is "accepted"
[06:40] <blakeahlberg> when i put in modprobe sis900 it says operation not permitted
[06:40] <tritium> defcon8: not here, though
[06:40] <tankpunk> is this the correct channel for dapper?
[06:40] <Madpilot> defcon8, well, this is #ubuntu, and thankfully it's not "accepted" here...
[06:40] <Madpilot> tankpunk, #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <tankpunk> ty
[06:41] <defcon8> tritium, yes, which is why i stopped
[06:41] <blakeahlberg> can you tell me what I can do to make the module sis900 work? it says operation not permitted.
[06:42] <tritium> defcon8: cool, thanks.  :)
[06:42] <ShellMaza> ok, doing a clean install of dapper
[06:42] <ShellMaza> gonna save my work on my vfat drive, wish me luck :)
[06:42] <tritium> ShellMaza: wow, giving up all that customization?
[06:43] <ShellMaza> i have most of it tarballed
[06:43] <tritium> good
[06:43] <ShellMaza> i know a joke, but its too lonng
[06:43] <tritium> ShellMaza: you can tell it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:44] <ShellMaza> A Sys Admin was at the beach making a sancastel, then he wanted to make some changes and a though came to mind, i should make a backup, he felt very dumb
[06:44] <ShellMaza> sorry, i was in the middle of typeing it
[06:44] <tritium> no problem
[06:44] <ShellMaza> find it funny?
[06:44] <toad013> was there a fix for the hardware abstraction layer hald problem when mounting smbfs
[06:44] <tritium> ShellMaza: yeah, a bit ;)
[06:45] <peterd> #mepis
[06:45] <tamale_> holy crap
[06:45] <tamale_> what just happened
[06:45] <tritium> nothing, tamale_
[06:45] <elknof1> is it normal that when playing a video file on a micro$oft window$  net, it buffers almost every 15 seconds??
[06:45] <Gravol> wtf
[06:45] <Gravol> why cant i install mplayer?
[06:45] <tamale_> what do you mean nothing?
[06:46] <tamale_> i'm seeing ridiculous amounts of joining
[06:46] <Gravol> why cant i install mplayer?
[06:46] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Gravol about mplayer
[06:46] <elknof1> gravol: try using automatix
[06:46] <elknof1> it worked perfect for me
[06:46] <Madpilot> !automatix
[06:46] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[06:47] <elknof1> yeah but maybe it depends on the program you're willing to install
[06:47] <Gravol> well
[06:47] <Gravol> how do i install mplayeR?
[06:47] <Madpilot> Gravol, check the pm you just got from ubotu
[06:47] <nickrud> !mplayer
[06:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:48] <Gravol> yep
[06:48] <Gravol> just noticed it
[06:48] <Intangir> whats the difference between apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get upgrade?
[06:48] <elknof1> when trying just to install multimedia it doesnt overwite configuration files
[06:48] <nickrud> Intangir, dist-upgrade can remove packages if need be, upgrade can't
[06:49] <phenom> Hello everyone, I am a new Ubuntu user
[06:49] <tritium> welcome, phenom
[06:49] <phenom> I am also new to Linux
[06:49] <phenom> Hello Tritium :)
[06:49] <tritium> Awesome!
[06:50] <varsendagger> that is cool phenom do you like sudoku?
[06:50] <phenom> I am having a slight problem with 3D and getting a 3D game to run however
[06:50] <Zane42> I've got two problems with ubuntu that are driving me nuts.
[06:50] <varsendagger> phenom, what game?
[06:51] <phenom> Warsendagger, I have used Redhat, Mandrake, Slackware, Debian, Suse and I must say, Ubuntu has taken me :)
[06:51] <Madpilot> phenom, what type of video card do you have? ATI or Nvidia?
[06:51] <phenom> Warsendagger, Quake 1
[06:51] <elknof1> tritium: im trying to play a video that is allocated on a micr.. wind...  network, with totem...   it works, but after every 15 seconds it buffers...
[06:51] <phenom> ATI Radeon 9800 128MB
[06:51] <Madpilot> !ati
[06:51] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:51] <Madpilot> phenom, ^^^
[06:51] <elknof1> do you know how to play it continued?
[06:51] <tritium> elknof1: what type of video?
[06:51] <elknof1> is a movie
[06:51] <elknof1> avi
[06:52] <phenom> ubotu, Thank you for your help!
[06:52] <ubotu> de nada, phenom
[06:52] <Zane42> 1.  It locks up for no apparent reason.  And hard.  I can't do Control -Alt-Backspace or anything...  All I can do is reset.  I've thought of puting another computer on the network and trying to ssh in to see if I can find out what's going on, but I'm not even sure that will work.  Some times it will go hours without locking up.  And sometimes only minutes.  If anyone has ideas I would appreciate it.
[06:52] <pvd2006> say you download something with apt-get
[06:52] <Gravol> why does this have to be confusing?
[06:52] <pvd2006> how can you send someone a package
[06:52] <pvd2006> ?
[06:52] <tritium> elknof1: have you installed packages to handle restricted formats?
[06:52] <elknof1> yeap
[06:52] <Gravol> why cant it just be like double click install
[06:52] <Gravol> ?
[06:52] <L_> can someone tell me how to change the system sound theme in ubuntu?
[06:52] <elknof1> everithing...
[06:52] <phenom> I don't see Linux as confusing, I see it as a challange to learn :)
[06:52] <ShellMaza> tri: dapper run good for you?
[06:53] <tritium> Gravol: it can be.  Have you tried synaptic?
[06:53] <elknof1> actually, if i download the file to mi lap i have no problems
[06:53] <Gravol> im in it
[06:53] <Zane42> 2.  USB mouse kicks out every now and then and I have to unplug it and plug it back in to get it up again.  Once again this appears to happen for no specific reason.
[06:53] <pvd2006> dapper works good for me:)
[06:53] <Gravol> all the tuts are just like
[06:53] <Gravol> do this and it works
[06:53] <Gravol> but it the stuff still doesnt work
[06:53] <Gravol> *but the
[06:54] <L_> can someone tell me how to change the system sound theme in ubuntu?
[06:54] <Madpilot> Gravol, what are you trying to install?
[06:54] <jmoncayo> i installed from aptitude amsn when i ran it, it says there is anewer version of amsn from sourceforge how can i update it?
[06:54] <tritium> Gravol: can you be more specific?
[06:55] <Gravol> mplayer
[06:55] <tritium> Gravol: which processor do you have?
[06:55] <ShellMaza> trying to find the cdnow
[06:55] <Gravol> intel pentium 2
[06:55] <Gravol> on laptop
[06:55] <jmoncayo> can somebody help me??
[06:55] <tritium> Gravol: apt-cache search mplayer, and install the version that matches your processor, e.g. mplayer-686
[06:56] <Gravol> see
[06:56] <Gravol> stuff like that in tuts
[06:56] <Gravol> i honestly did not understand what you wrote
[06:56] <Madpilot> Gravol, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto seems usable
[06:56] <tritium> Gravol: you can also search in synaptic for mplayer
[06:57] <elknof1> does any body knows how to enable the tv s-video out in a ati card??  -drivers already installed-
[06:57] <ShellMaza> gotta download it
[06:57] <tritium> You'll find packages named with a convention like mplayer-$(arch)
[06:57] <ShellMaza> i dont see dapper iso
[06:57] <tritium> ShellMaza: cdimage.ubuntu.com has them.  Look under releases for flight 7
[06:57] <elknof1> !s-video
[06:57] <ubotu> elknof1: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:58] <Zane42> Does anyone have any idea where to begin resolving my issue?  I've never had linux lock so hard before that control-alt-backspace or control-alt-f1 doesn't work.  Crazy thing is the mouse pointer still works fine when this happens.  I can zip it all over the screen.
[06:58] <ShellMaza> is dapper in stable stage?
[06:58] <tritium> Zane42: what are you running?  breezy?
[06:58] <Madpilot> ShellMaza, more or less - and if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces ;)
[06:58] <tritium> ShellMaza: not until June 1
[06:58] <Zane42> Breezy
[06:59] <Zane42> 686 kernel.
[06:59] <phenom> Question, Should I exit X befor I install my ATI drivers?
[06:59] <ShellMaza> yes
[06:59] <Frogzoo> Zane42: does caps lock key turn the led on/off?
[06:59] <ShellMaza> mine does
[06:59] <ShellMaza> flight-7?
[06:59] <Zane42> Good question.  I don't know.
[06:59] <Gravol> ok
[06:59] <Gravol> im in snaptic
[06:59] <Zane42> Fogzoo I didn't try it... next lockup I'll give that a shot.
[06:59] <tritium> ShellMaza: a milestone development release
[06:59] <Gravol> synaptic
[07:00] <Gravol> and choose some mplayer packages
[07:00] <elknof1> !maxtaptime
[07:00] <ubotu> elknof1: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:00] <ShellMaza> what? i went to release/dapper
[07:00] <Gravol> then clicked apply
[07:00] <Frogzoo> Zane42: most likely suspect is always your vid driver so upgrade if possible
[07:00] <Gravol> is that it?
[07:00] <Zane42> Nvidia driver.
[07:00] <Madpilot> Gravol, should be
[07:00] <Gravol> so how do i use it now?
[07:00] <Zane42> I'm running the latest that's available in the repositories.
[07:00] <Zane42> Should I try to use the one off NVIDIA's site?
[07:00] <Madpilot> Gravol, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:00] <elknof1> !easyubuntu
[07:00] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[07:01] <Zane42> Geoforce4 mx440
[07:01] <jeff2> how can one install php for apache 1.3.33, instead of apache 2?
[07:01] <Zane42> Twin View
[07:01] <Zane42> 2 monitors.
[07:01] <ShellMaza> i want text mode install
[07:01] <ShellMaza> right, tri?
[07:01] <jeff2> is it impossible using apt-get?
[07:02] <spikeb> ShellMaza: that's actually up to you - you can install off the livecd
[07:02] <tritium> ShellMaza: that's all there is on the install CD.  Live CD has a gui installer I've not tried.
[07:02] <Gravol> ok
[07:02] <ShellMaza> text mode was how 5.10 ran for the installer :)
[07:02] <Gravol> so when i try and watch a clip or anything online
[07:02] <Gravol> and its supposed to be in wmp, will i still see it?
[07:02] <ShellMaza> Gravol, wmp?????
[07:03] <Gravol> windows media player
[07:03] <elknof1> lol..   what's the complete name of the configuration file??   x-(i dont know what)
[07:03] <spikeb> if you have win32codecs installed, yeah
[07:03] <ShellMaza> windows............. what format are they streaming?
[07:03] <bony> i tried to install e17 as instructed in "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingE17Howto?highlight=%28e17%29" every thing went well untill the script started compiling evas it gave the following errors "automake: src/modules/engines/software_x11/Makefile.am: warning: automake does not support module_la_LDFLAGS being defined conditionally" how to get rid of these warnings ?
[07:03] <ShellMaza> /etc/xorg.conf
[07:03] <ShellMaza> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:03] <elknof1> thanks
[07:04] <Gravol> wmv
[07:04] <ShellMaza> wmv?
[07:04] <ShellMaza> what web site are you trying to watch video from?
[07:04] <defcon8> i wish i could make totem go away
[07:04] <Gravol> nothing in specific
[07:04] <ShellMaza> defcon8
[07:04] <Gravol> like
[07:05] <ShellMaza> synaptics, purge :)
[07:05] <Gravol> some sites have .wmp clips to watch
[07:05] <spikeb> just a general question :)
[07:05] <Gravol> *.wmv
[07:05] <Gravol> .wmv is windows media video
[07:05] <spikeb> !tell Gravol about win32codecs
[07:05] <elknof1> whats the synonym od kdesu in gnome??
[07:05] <ShellMaza> !google *.wmv
[07:05] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ShellMaza
[07:05] <elknof1> isnt it gtkdo??
[07:05] <ShellMaza> oops
[07:05] <Madpilot> elknof1, gksudo
[07:05] <spikeb> elknof1: gksudo
[07:05] <elknof1> lol thanks
[07:05] <ShellMaza> gksudo
[07:05] <Zane42> Any ideas why I would have to reinitiate my mouse by unplugging it and plugging it back in every now and then?
[07:05] <ShellMaza> eh, too slow
[07:06] <ShellMaza> usb or ps/2?
[07:06] <ShellMaza> 705.0MB ISO
[07:06] <Zane42> usb
[07:06] <ShellMaza> wtf
[07:07] <elknof1> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf        whats wrong in mi line??
[07:07] <Zane42> It just kicks off for no apparent reason.
[07:07] <ShellMaza> elnofl sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:07] <jmoncayo> how can i upgrade a program if i have de bed package??
[07:07] <elknof1> even if im working on 5.10??
[07:07] <harisund> jmoncayo do you mean bad package?
[07:08] <ShellMaza> elk
[07:08] <ShellMaza> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:08] <ShellMaza> :)
[07:08] <ShellMaza> wait
[07:08] <phenom> How do I get back to the GUI if I use CRTL+ALT+SHIFT+ F1 to end the X session?
[07:08] <ShellMaza> that might not work
[07:08] <nickrud> elknof1, try gksudo "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:08] <spikeb> no, his line is right
[07:08] <harisund> phenom you never ended it.
[07:08] <harisund> phenom just hit Ctrl Alt F7 to get back.
[07:08] <spikeb> phenom: session's still running, crtl alt f7 :)
[07:08] <phenom> harisund, thank you!
[07:08] <ShellMaza> to end ctrl alt f1
[07:09] <harisund> sure thing phenom. it worked?
[07:09] <ShellMaza> tty7 is GUI
[07:09] <jmoncayo> harisund, i downloaded a newer version of a program i already have installed, it is the deb package, how can i upgrade
[07:09] <ShellMaza> install over it
[07:09] <harisund> jmoncayo: use "dpkg --install <name of the deb file>.deb
[07:09] <ShellMaza> dpkg -i pakcage
[07:09] <l_> how can i change my console font?
[07:09] <elknof1> thanks...
[07:09] <ShellMaza> edit ur profile
[07:10] <ShellMaza> Edit -> Profile -> Default
[07:10] <phenom> harisund, I haven't tryed it yet, I'm preparing to install my video drivers
[07:10] <harisund> phenom: ah ok ..
[07:10] <ShellMaza> phenom
[07:10] <ShellMaza> ctrl alt f1
[07:10] <ShellMaza> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:10] <ShellMaza> then run
[07:10] <elknof1> does it matter how do i write on xorg??  i mean   im adding a line to the touchpad conf,  wich is maxtaptime=0
[07:10] <phenom> ShellMaza, Whats that for?
[07:10] <l_> i dont mean teh terminal font, i mean the console, outside of the gui
[07:10] <jmoncayo> harisund, will that upgrade the package?
[07:10] <ShellMaza> ati requires x to 100% off
[07:11] <harisund> jmoncayo typically if you have the dependancies it should.
[07:11] <ShellMaza> l_ kernel based
[07:11] <spikeb> does it?
[07:11] <nickrud> jmoncayo, where'd you get that deb?
[07:11] <spikeb> i used to install the ati drivers while running X, actually
[07:11] <spikeb> hehe
[07:11] <phenom> ShellMaza, Thank you!
[07:11] <ShellMaza> l_ u gotta re-compile your kernel with a predefined font thats avaible
[07:11] <jmoncayo> nickrud, from sourceforge
[07:12] <elknof1> does it matter how do i write on xorg??  i mean   im adding a line to the touchpad conf,  wich is maxtaptime=0
[07:12] <nickrud> jmoncayo, ok, as long as it wasn't a debian binary :)
[07:12] <harisund> jmoncayo just try doing that and see if it gets installed. If it couldn't it would tell you what else you need.
[07:12] <ShellMaza> as long their is no trailing white spaces
[07:12] <harisund> nickrud, what would happen if it was a debian binary?
[07:12] <defcon8> there?
[07:13] <ShellMaza> i want to install a custom font into my kernel
[07:13] <elknof1> when editing xorg...   do i have to reboot to commit changes??
[07:13] <nickrud> harisund, it probably would have some issues, there's no guarantee of binary library compatibility between ubuntu & debian
[07:13] <harisund> nickrud ah yes. right ok.
[07:13] <jmoncayo> ok it is a ubuntu .deb package tho
[07:13] <ShellMaza> dont know if its possible, would be aswome to have the abandom font
[07:13] <harisund> jmoncayo all the better.just do 'dpkg -i package.deb'
[07:14] <ShellMaza> tri: see if kernel 2.6.16.16 nvidia stuff is on dapper
[07:14] <jmoncayo> harisund, i am going to that after apt-get upgrade finishes
[07:14] <elknof1> when editing xorg...   do i have to reboot to commit changes??
[07:14] <ShellMaza> no
[07:14] <harisund> jmoncayo, yes, dpkg wouldn't allow you to install a deb file when apt is running.
[07:14] <defcon8> elknof1, just restart x
[07:14] <nickrud> elknof1, log out, hit clt-alt-backapsce
[07:14] <ShellMaza> ctrl alt f1
[07:15] <sneex> \=
[07:15] <ShellMaza> /etc/init.d/gdm stop && /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:15] <ShellMaza> will shut down X and start it back up
[07:15] <nickrud> ShellMaza, you should mention the logout, they may have something open & be upset about losing data
[07:15] <ShellMaza> true
[07:15] <defcon8> ShellMaza, umm wont the term close before it can do the second command?
[07:16] <ShellMaza> it will drop your to a tty terminal
[07:16] <defcon8> nickrud, they should think about that because they have been told to restart x
[07:16] <nickrud> defcon8, sometimes people are literal.
[07:16] <defcon8> ShellMaza, if you do ctrl alt backspace, it will automatically stop and bring you back to the login screen
[07:16] <harisund> that is right but nickrud has a point. Restarting X will kill all othe rapplications, and most users might not be expecting that.
[07:16] <ShellMaza> true
[07:16] <ShellMaza> but i like the hard way
[07:16] <defcon8> right i must get out of here
[07:16] <ShellMaza> learn more
[07:16] <defcon8> i can not take any more
[07:17] <defcon8> see you
[07:17] <awesometaylor> hey guys what is a command to rename a file?
[07:17] <ShellMaza> mv
[07:17] <ShellMaza> mv orginal new
[07:17] <ShellMaza> thats how i do it
[07:18] <eggzeck> that IS the way to do it
[07:18] <awesometaylor> shweet
[07:18] <ShellMaza> excuse me
[07:18] <awesometaylor> thanks
[07:18] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: just letting you know that it's not the way you do it, but is the way its done :)
[07:18] <ShellMaza> k, but the CAPS rep as yelling
[07:19] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: not all of us believe this. ;)
[07:19] <ShellMaza> hehe
[07:19] <ShellMaza> i feel like i will be a good helper here
[07:19] <ShellMaza> setting this server static and channel in x-chat
[07:20] <ShellMaza> slackware was my last os
[07:20] <ShellMaza> till i really broke it
[07:20] <ShellMaza> hehe
[07:20] <Ademan> when you compile something with gcc on the command line do you hafta specify the stdc++ library explicitly for linking?
[07:20] <eggzeck> !offtopic
[07:20] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:21] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: fyi. :)
[07:21] <ShellMaza> CC=stdc++
[07:21] <jmoncayo> harisund, i think everything went well
[07:21] <ShellMaza> something to that nature
[07:21] <jmoncayo> could you go to #flood so i cant paste everything
[07:21] <eggzeck> jmoncayo: there is pastebin
[07:21] <ShellMaza> egg; was i off topic?
[07:22] <Ademan> ShellMaza: thanks, is that with gcc or the linker?
[07:22] <jmoncayo> eggzeck, yes but joining flood is easier i think
[07:22] <harisund> I could go to flood, but I would prefer you use pastebin jmoncayo.
[07:22] <eggzeck> jmoncayo: no it isn't, becaue not everyone wants to join #flood
[07:22] <ShellMaza> ademan, its somthing likex export CC=stdc++.x.x.x
[07:22] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: yes, as soon as you started discussing 'slackware' n stuff :)
[07:22] <jmoncayo> ok ok from now on i will always use pastebin
[07:22] <ShellMaza> it was a completment
[07:23] <ShellMaza> saying i perfer ubuntu over SL
[07:23] <jmoncayo> harisund, everything ok right?
[07:23] <harisund> ShellMaza that's true, but this is a support channel ..
[07:23] <ShellMaza> sorry
[07:23] <harisund> jmoncayo from whta I see in the #flood channel, it looks like everything installed fine.
[07:23] <Ademan> ShellMaza: hrm ok, thanks
[07:23] <GenitalCombat> So! Sun is now backing Ubuntu!
[07:23] <jmoncayo> i get this error
[07:24] <jmoncayo> Application initialization failed: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable
[07:24] <harisund> If you want to verify, just run the application you installed and make sure that it is the version you want. Or use 'dpkg --list | grep ^ii| grep package' where package is the name of the package you just installed.
[07:24] <harisund> jmoncayo: what are you trying to do? First, do you have the X windows running? That is a typical error while trying sometihng like X Forward
[07:24] <Ademan> by the way, i noticed that ubuntu said "free security updates for a year" or something similar... is that to say you hafta pay money for updates after that? (a la norton antivirus?) that doesnt sound right
[07:24] <jmoncayo> runing xwindow
[07:25] <eggzeck> norton?
[07:25] <jmoncayo> harisund, done i didnt realize i still was logged in as root
[07:25] <cpnl> hello
[07:25] <ShellMaza> egg: dapper has glx and 3d excell ofr nvidia right?
[07:26] <eggzeck> yes
[07:26] <harisund> jmoncayo: whoa ! be careful.. you would be better off doing stuff as regular user and using sudo instead of actually 'logging in as root'
[07:26] <ShellMaza> kewl, installing i go
[07:26] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: yes
[07:26] <eggzeck> :)
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: No...where'd you see that?
[07:26] <ShellMaza> too much hassel to get 8756 binary driver to work
[07:26] <ShellMaza> in 5.10
[07:26] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: I use ATI Radeon 9250
[07:27] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: with fglrx and has 3D Accel
[07:27] <ShellMaza> i have GeForce 6600
[07:27] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: but from what I hear nvidia is EASY to setup
[07:27] <ShellMaza> i tryed for 5 days stright
[07:28] <jmoncayo> harisund, well i think it is a bad thing i like to do but i will start doing things with sudo
[07:28] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: yes your GeForce will do good.
[07:28] <jmoncayo> i opened a xterm and su -
[07:28] <ShellMaza> even nvidia gave up on me.... i went to the extent of builting the modules right into the kernel
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: Normal releases are supported for 18 months, meaning that updates are available for them for that period, and after that you would have to upgrade to another version.  Long term versions (like Dapper) are, of course, longer.  But at no point is anything not free, you just need a new version.
[07:28] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: not on Ubuntu?
[07:28] <ShellMaza> on ubuntu
[07:29] <ShellMaza> i went to kernel 2.6.16.16
[07:29] <ShellMaza> and enabled SMP and ht
[07:29] <ShellMaza> and removed a bunch of junk and optimeized it to my hardware
[07:30] <jmoncayo> harisund, ok buddy thanks a lot
[07:30] <Ademan> tonyyarusso: oh ok that's reassuring
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> :)
[07:30] <ShellMaza> ademan, i'm going to dapper in about 10 minutes
[07:30] <harisund> sure jmoncayo, as long as evrything works !
[07:30] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: then it isn't Ubuntus fault :P
[07:31] <Ademan> ShellMaza: from breezy?
[07:31] <ShellMaza> nope, its nvidias for using a old x11-common package and not xorg-common
[07:31] <ShellMaza> yes ademan
[07:32] <ShellMaza> nvidia-glx-blahblahblah.deb requires x11-common
[07:32] <phenom> Hello again
[07:32] <Ademan> what version is breezy again? 5 or 4?
[07:32] <ShellMaza> that been my problem for about 6 hours
[07:32] <ShellMaza> 5.10
[07:32] <Ademan> damn
[07:32] <phenom> ShellMaza, I press CTRL+ALT+F1 but Gnome doesn't quit?
[07:32] <PreZ> how long does it take to install ubuntu, on average
[07:32] <Ademan> so theres no iso's for dapper yet
[07:32] <PreZ> at least to the point where one could boot off disk
[07:32] <jacksparrow> 'hi all
[07:32] <ShellMaza> no, then u have to type /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:33] <Ademan> PreZ: on a desktop maybe 15 minutes? like its REALLY quick
[07:33] <phenom> PreZ, I installed Ubuntu in about 30 minutes from format to finish
[07:33] <ShellMaza> ademan, yes their is, i just downloaded it
[07:33] <Ademan> on a laptop i still havent gotten it to work
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: Dapper is Beta.  You can get preliminary release ISOs.  (I'm running it actually.)
[07:33] <ShellMaza> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[07:33] <Ademan> ShellMaza: link?
[07:33] <Ademan> ah
[07:33] <Ademan> ty :-)
[07:33] <ShellMaza> np
[07:33] <PreZ> ok, I'll install it on the train tomorrow ;)
[07:33] <Ademan> i can't for the life of me get ubuntu (or debian for that matter) to work on my laptop
[07:33] <PreZ> does it require a net connection to install?
[07:33] <phenom> ShellMaza, So I type "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" in a terminal while I'm in Gnome?
[07:33] <ShellMaza> no
[07:34] <eggzeck> phenom: and it all depends on your system too
[07:34] <PreZ> good
[07:34] <ShellMaza> after u press ctrl alt f1 and login as u or root
[07:34] <eggzeck> oops
[07:34] <eggzeck> I mean that for PreZ
[07:34] <Ademan> so yeah i'm hoping dapper will be my silver bullet for my laptop problems... is that just wishful thinking?
[07:34] <phenom> ShellMaza, My command prompt stated that "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" was not found?
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> PreZ: (You will have a load of updates the next time you connect though.)
[07:35] <ShellMaza> u have to press CTRL+ALT+F1, then login as root
[07:35] <ShellMaza> then do the command
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: Not necessarily.  6 months gives time for a lot of improvements.
[07:35] <phenom> ShellMaza, I didnt get to choose a root username, would the default be root like on other Linux distros?
[07:35] <eggzeck> phenom: sudo passwd
[07:35] <eggzeck> phenom: that will set root password
[07:35] <eddiestone> does anybody knows the path of the file of the users info (such as username, password)
[07:36] <Ademan> tonyyarusso: man i hope so, because i've spent over a month trying to get this dump to work, so far the only linux i can get to run on that laptop is either ubuntu in single user mode or knoppix with "nopcmcia" boot option
[07:36] <eggzeck> phenom: then login as root with that password you just gave
[07:36] <phenom> eggzeck, Thank you!
[07:36] <eggzeck> phenom: np
[07:36] <phenom> Off to try
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: You can always try a live cd to find out.
[07:37] <Ademan> i suppose
[07:37] <ShellMaza> it should of asked you to login
[07:37] <ShellMaza> my bad, CTRL+ALT+F2
[07:37] <ShellMaza> tty1 is in use by X
[07:37] <ShellMaza> brb, installing dapper
[07:37] <Ademan> in my (very limited) experience, liveCDs act way differently than installs, even as far as compatibility
[07:37] <eddiestone> hello guys...
[07:37] <eddiestone> does anybody knows the path of the file of the users info (such as username, password)
[07:37] <eddiestone> ?
[07:38] <anethema> hey im installing breezy and ive got a highpoint rocketraid 1640
[07:39] <anethema> the chipset is supported, but it just shows the individual drives..not all as one raid drive like i wanted
[07:39] <anethema> is there a way to make the raid work? i dont wanna use linux's software md driver
[07:40] <anethema> anyone ? im stuck :(
[07:40] <Tomcat_> eddiestone: /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[07:41] <eddiestone> thanks
[07:41] <eggzeck> anethema: I cannot help you with that, sorry.
[07:42] <Ademan> what's "text mode install" ? thats just installation using BIOS graphics right?
[07:42] <eddiestone> Tomcat_, do you know witch encrypt algorythm is used there?
[07:42] <Ademan> eddiestone: you're gettin shady now
[07:42] <Ademan> lol
[07:43] <dstryd> text mode install means you install using text mode
[07:43] <dstryd> it's text.
[07:43] <eddiestone> shady..
[07:43] <eddiestone> I think I dont got it...
[07:43] <Tomcat_> eddiestone: Nah, sorry.
[07:43] <jacksparrow> How can I get the 2.6.15-22-686 kernel source? Not only the kernel headers, I want to with apt the complette source
[07:43] <eggzeck> BIOS graphics?
[07:44] <eddiestone> ok man, thaks anyway
[07:44] <dstryd> heh
[07:44] <apathy> hey
[07:44] <apathy> anyone here know anythiong about ATI in linux?
[07:44] <Ademan> apathy: its pathetic
[07:44] <Ademan> thats all i know
[07:44] <apathy> lol
[07:44] <Ademan> 2 weeks to get fglrx up
[07:44] <Ademan> for me anyways
[07:45] <Ademan> i was n00bish though
[07:45] <Ademan> so i dunno
[07:45] <apathy> i just wanna have a tv as my secondary monitor
[07:45] <dstryd> ati in linux
[07:45] <dstryd> works.
[07:45] <Ademan> dstryd: barely
[07:45] <dstryd> Mine blazes.
[07:45] <eggzeck> Ademan: don't say such things
[07:45] <Ademan> well... i suppose by barely i mean i barely got it to work lol
[07:45] <eggzeck> apathy: I have an ATI Radeon 9250, took me about 40 mins to get working perfect
[07:45] <dstryd> heheh
[07:45] <dstryd> yeah i am running radeon 9200
[07:46] <dstryd> no problem
[07:46] <Ademan> eggzeck: you seem like a seasoned veteran though
[07:46] <apathy> so anyone have any ideas?could you help then egg?i have a 9000
[07:46] <dstryd> The documentation should cover it
[07:46] <ccc_> !ati
[07:46] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:46] <apathy> ...
[07:46] <eggzeck> your 9000 would work fine
[07:46] <mhs> hi
[07:46] <apathy> let me start fresh without any preconceptioons lol
[07:47] <eggzeck> Ademan: perhaps ;p
[07:47] <apathy> I am a windows based computer programmer
[07:47] <apathy> so absolutely nothing in linux makes sense so far
[07:47] <Ademan> i believe 8500 is the minimum for the current version of fglrx
[07:47] <Ademan> apathy: thats how I was
[07:47] <apathy> heh
[07:47] <Ademan> almost to a letter...
[07:47] <apathy> this is my backup box (from old parts)
[07:47] <eggzeck> apathy: read those, but you'll need to: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:48] <apathy> fglrx?
[07:48] <eggzeck> it's a driver
[07:48] <Ademan> its the driver
[07:48] <Ademan> yeah
[07:48] <apathy> will get right away
[07:48] <apathy> is that direct from terminal?
[07:48] <dstryd> si
[07:48] <eggzeck> yes
[07:48] <apathy> synaptic is confusing me atm
[07:48] <apathy> command based I get
[07:48] <apathy> brb
[07:48] <eggzeck> apathy: do that from terminal
[07:49] <Ademan> eggzeck: i hadta do a heck of a lot more than that (iirc fun stuff like uninstalling my current mesa packages and such) and then finish it all off with a healthy dose of Xorg reconfigure :-)
[07:49] <PreZ> hum, ubuntu update site is slow.  I'm only getting 1.7mbyte/s
[07:49] <amac> hmmm, cups seems broken =(
[07:49] <amac> usb printer doesn't seem to print properly anymore
[07:49] <eggzeck> Ademan: oh he will have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;)
[07:49] <apathy> couldnt find packages?
[07:50] <eggzeck> apathy: did you enable multiverse/universe in /etc/source.list?
[07:50] <Ademan> apathy: probably hafta enable extra repositories
[07:50] <Ademan> yeah
[07:50] <lavi> hi guys, which name of package contains a marco 'ATK_ROLE_ENTRY'? thank advance.
[07:50] <apathy> oh dear
[07:50] <apathy> i heard that one scream right over my head lol
[07:50] <eggzeck> apathy: don't let that scare you, just do this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:50] <Ademan> eggzeck: i tried to do that and gave up, i was much happier letting Xorg guess what i had :-)
[07:50] <dstryd> "/exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:50] <lavi> someone tell me to install atk, but i dont konw which package need me install.
[07:51] <dstryd> maybe will be easier if you output your sources.list for him
[07:51] <eggzeck> lavi: if you're unsure, do this: apt-cache search atk
[07:51] <dstryd> so he can append to his
[07:51] <apathy> ok, now what do i edit in there?
[07:51] <dstryd> you need to add a couple lines
[07:51] <dstryd> 4 or so
[07:51] <dstryd> anyone got those lines offhand? i dont
[07:51] <lavi> eggzeck: i 've almost install all of relative package about atk.
[07:51] <Ademan> iirc there's a GUI that does the same thing :-)
[07:52] <lavi> however, it didnt work.
[07:52] <dstryd> let me try this
[07:52] <dstryd> !universe
[07:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:52] <dstryd> there you go
[07:52] <dstryd> heh
[07:52] <eggzeck> apathy: take out any comments "#" from the beginning of any repository
[07:52] <eggzeck> !easysource
[07:52] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:52] <eggzeck> apathy: check that out
[07:52] <eggzeck> also :)
[07:53] <apathy> get rid of any #?
[07:53] <eggzeck> no
[07:53] <eggzeck> you didn't read my entire line
[07:53] <apathy> any quoted #
[07:53] <eggzeck> errr, just follow the link ubotu gave when dstryd did a !universe :)
[07:53] <dstryd> heheh
[07:54] <apathy> kk brb
[07:54] <Ademan> eggzeck: so the "text based installer" for dapper, thats the same as the installer i might have used for breezy right? just the good ol DOS looking text/colors ?
[07:54] <dstryd> yes
[07:54] <dstryd> text based
[07:54] <eddiestone> does anybody knows witch is the password encrypt algorithm of unix? (md5 or other)
[07:54] <dstryd> text, no graphics
[07:55] <dstryd> unix uses many encryption methods
[07:55] <eggzeck> eddiestone: yes, mkpasswd (I believe)
[07:55] <dstryd> it's up to you to decide what you want
[07:55] <eddiestone> i mean
[07:55] <spikeb> Ademan: yes
[07:55] <eddiestone> for user login
[07:55] <pvd2006> what was the !command you send to ubuto for video resolution help
[07:55] <eddiestone> eggzeck,  thanks, I will try
[07:55] <Ademan> dstryd: just making sure it wasnt like command line or something
[07:56] <eggzeck> eddiestone: you're trying to make an encrypted password?
[07:56] <orbin> ubotu: tell pvd2006 about fixres
[07:56] <dstryd> well it's prompted text menus
[07:56] <dstryd> so yeah i guess technically it's not command line
[07:56] <eggzeck> eddiestone: if so then: mkpasswd mypassword
[07:56] <[SEAWOLF] > hi all
[07:56] <apathy> ok, so the # is a comment symbol right? like /* in other languages
[07:56] <keithg> Hello, do any of you have any experience with easycam2, and camorama.  I use a logitech QuickCam Communicate STX.
[07:56] <eggzeck> eddiestone: that will spit out an encrypted password, for use in various ways, such as config files, etc/
[07:57] <eddiestone> eggzeck, no, Im trying to authenticate from a web-front end
[07:57] <dstryd> brb
[07:57] <eddiestone> I mean, Im trying to make a web page that authenticates
[07:57] <eggzeck> eddiestone: your information is minimal. And seems offtopic as well.
[07:58] <eddiestone> sorry
[07:58] <eddiestone> but isnt minimal. I asked just the encrypt algorithm. it isnt mkpasswd, but thanks anyway
[08:00] <highvoltage> what does 'germinate' mean in ubuntu?
[08:00] <highvoltage> does it have something to do with preseeding?
[08:00] <orbin> hmm, forums down?
[08:00] <orbin> nvm lol
[08:01] <satlan32> hi
[08:01] <satlan32> how do i add /usr/src/sipp to my PATH?
[08:01] <highvoltage> ah, it was more googlable than i thought :)
[08:01] <orbin> keithg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114429&highlight=quickcam+stx
[08:02] <apathy> eggzeck, I do hate to bother ya, I myself get impatient daily with noob-questions, but tweaking interpreted files isnt exactly a jump in and get going kinda thing
[08:02] <satlan32> ??
[08:02] <vineeth> satlan32:export PATH=$PATH:/usr/src/sipp
[08:02] <pvd2006> whats the best way to completely remove all of open office
[08:03] <eggzeck> apathy: example: # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[08:03] <vineeth> satlan32:in ur bashrc file
[08:03] <eggzeck> apathy: the "#" means it is not enabled, if I remove it, it will be enabled.
[08:03] <apathy> ok ill ponder the syntax
[08:03] <apathy> so as I said, the # is a comment notation
[08:03] <eggzeck> yes it is
[08:03] <apathy> gotcha
[08:03] <satlan32> whiuch one /root/.bashrc?
[08:03] <eggzeck> I didn't see you say that sorry
[08:04] <apathy> np
[08:04] <vineeth> satlan: what ever account u use
[08:04] <nickrud> pvd2006, in aptitudes interactive mode, type l~openoffice_gg (limit display to packages with openoffice in the name, mark for purging, go check you got the right packages, go do it)
[08:04] <satlan32> how to do that?
[08:04] <satlan32> i can't open it
[08:05] <vineeth> satlan32:u mean u can't open ur .bashrc ? or root's ?
[08:05] <acke_____> hey i only have a bluetooth keyboard for my mac mini. I would want to run ubuntu live cd. but it seems as if it is not possible?
[08:05] <satlan32> the .bashrc
[08:06] <vineeth> satlan32:the bashrc in ur home directory ?
[08:06] <jmoncayo> good night
[08:06] <satlan32> thats what i saw in locate bashrc
[08:07] <eggzeck> acke_____: you have to be sure that the cd is for PPC, AND the bluetooth keyboard idea isn't good ;)
[08:07] <pvd2006> nickrud, woa
[08:07] <nickrud> :)
[08:07] <pvd2006> I think i deleted some stuff I shouldnt have
[08:07] <pvd2006> lol
[08:07] <vineeth> satlan32:if a .bashrc file does not exist in ur home directory, try editing system wide bashrc at /etc/bash.bashrc
[08:07] <vineeth> satlan32;sudo it ofcourse
[08:07] <acke_____> egg, its ppc. and yeah no wired keyboards in tha house
[08:07] <satlan32> ??
[08:07] <nickrud> pvd2006, if you didn't do the check, you also dropped ubuntu-desktop
[08:07] <eggzeck> acke_____: so I recommend you wait until you get a wired one.
[08:08] <vineeth> satlan32:u have a .bashrc file in ur home directory ??
[08:08] <dell500> anyone here know hwo to convert from MPC to MP3?
[08:08] <pvd2006> how do you check>?
[08:08] <graft> it's against the law to use 'u' to mean 'you', vineeth
[08:08] <hastesaver> satlan32, better yet, create it in your home directory if it doesn't exist. Not safe to mess around with system files unless you know what you're doing
[08:08] <graft> you should spell it out
[08:08] <nickrud> pvd2006, after the first g , all the packages you marked for purging were displayed
[08:08] <vineeth> graft:ok, am new to this
[08:08] <vineeth> graft:sorry
[08:08] <satlan32> can you send example file please?
[08:08] <acke_____> egg, thanks
[08:09] <nickrud> pvd2006, also any side effects
[08:09] <satlan32> i'm new to ubuntu and linux
[08:09] <graft> vineeth: i am yanking your chain. but still you should spell it out
[08:09] <pvd2006> nickrud:  whoops how can I go back and find out which ones I deleted
[08:09] <hastesaver> satlan32, what exactly do you want to do? Add something your path, that's it right?
[08:09] <nickrud> pvd2006, /var/log/aptitude has a record of your changes
[08:09] <vineeth> satlan32:okay prob do this
[08:09] <satlan32> yep
[08:09] <vineeth> satlan32:cd ~
[08:10] <vineeth> cat >> /etc/.bashrc
[08:10] <vladuz976> I am trying to stip of a bunch of "^T" form a file i using sed 's/^T//g' file > newfile but doesn't do anything, can someone help?
[08:10] <vineeth> export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin/sipp
[08:10] <dell500> anyone here know hwo to convert from MPC to MP3?
[08:10] <graft> vladuz976: yeah, use ctrl-v
[08:10] <nickrud> vladuz976, try 's/\^T//g
[08:10] <pvd2006> nickrud: so now I have to go back and add each of these manually right?
[08:10] <graft> vladuz976: instead of typing out ^T, hit ctrl-v,ctrl-t
[08:11] <satlan32> ok
[08:11] <vladuz976> graft: what does that do?
[08:11] <hastesaver> satlan32, type Ctrl-D after that :)
[08:11] <satlan32> it's not back to PROMPT yes
[08:11] <graft> vladuz976: it inserts an escape character
[08:11] <satlan32> ok :)
[08:11] <satlan32> now..?
[08:11] <vladuz976> graft: oh is that what ^Tt is?
[08:11] <hastesaver> satlan32, type "echo $PATH"
[08:11] <nickrud> pvd2006, was ubuntu-desktop one of them? if so, just reinstall that it'll pull everything back in
[08:11] <graft> vladuz976: i'm assuming... if it's a single character
[08:12] <satlan32> path = /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/src/sipp
[08:12] <hastesaver> satlan32, er wait. First do "source .bashrc", then echo $PATH
[08:12] <satlan32> done
[08:12] <vineeth> satlan32:you will get it everytime you get a login shell :)
[08:12] <vladuz976> graft: would you know what this is "<80>" or "^H"
[08:13] <varsendagger> hey i am making a web site, and i want to mouse over an area and then have a picture come up.... how do i do that?
[08:13] <vladuz976> graft: i have this dos file with a bunch of italic letters that i want to convert into a latex file
[08:13] <hastesaver> satlan32, do echo $PATH and see if /usr/bin/sipp is listed, just to be sure
[08:13] <satlan32> yep it's there
[08:13] <eggzeck> varsendagger: that is way offtopic
[08:13] <hastesaver> varsendagger, out of the scope of this channel. (Look up DHTML or something)
[08:13] <graft> vladuz976: what kind of file is it?
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> varsendagger: OT, but javascript, onmouseover.
[08:14] <varsendagger> Cool
[08:14] <satlan32> great thanks hastesaver
[08:15] <vladuz976> graft: it came from dos, i'll show you.http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jMP5Wd74.html
[08:16] <apathy> omfg.... it worked haha
[08:16] <Xyloc> Hello everyone
[08:16] <graft> vladuz976: um... not very long, you could just open it in vim and delete that stuff
[08:16] <apathy> I actuall made the console do something beside spit errors haha
[08:16] <vladuz976> graft: that was just part it's about 900 pages
[08:16] <vladuz976> graft: over 23 chapters
[08:16] <apathy> eggzeck, you still here?
[08:17] <graft> vladuz976: ah... hm
[08:17] <graft> vladuz976: what's the original format?
[08:17] <Xyloc> Could someone help me with configuring sudo?
[08:18] <apathy> ok, ima reboot and see if that helped
[08:18] <eggzeck> apathy: sort of in and out, i'm also busy reading the perlfunc man page
[08:18] <vladuz976> graft: not sure, i am doing this for my teacher, for our nuclear class, converting the file to latex to put it online
[08:18] <apathy> oic
[08:18] <apathy> should I reboot?
[08:18] <eggzeck> apathy: wait, you'll also need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:18] <vladuz976> graft: he just said that he wrote it years ago in dos and that all characters are ACSII
[08:18] <apathy> ack
[08:18] <apathy> that file didnt go so well last time i tried to edit it
[08:18] <apathy> infact
[08:18] <Xyloc> When I login with su to the terminal, everything works
[08:19] <graft> vladuz976: um. you could write a perl script to do it pretty easily
[08:19] <apathy> i was locked in console for about 2 hours haha
[08:19] <vladuz976> graft: i don't know perl
[08:19] <mustard5> xyloc you edited the /etc/sudoers file with visudo?
[08:19] <eggzeck> apathy: pastebin it, I will try my best to help
[08:19] <apathy> till I figured out how to get it to reset the file to update
[08:19] <vladuz976> graft: i though sed would be a candidate for this
[08:19] <apathy> pastebin?
[08:20] <orbin> vladuz976: dos2unix maybe?
[08:20] <Xyloc> mustard: Not yet, I'm a bit afraid I might break something important
[08:20] <apathy> is that like copy paste it all in a  msg to yoiu?
[08:20] <graft> vladuz976: sure, sed too
[08:20] <vladuz976> orbin: i did that already, didn't do much
[08:20] <eggzeck> apathy: http://www.pastebin.com
[08:21] <mustard5> Xyloc, k well the visudo command is for editing sudoers
[08:21] <ppcguy> hey all just upgraded to dapper, and lost all my login choices ie flux, kde, gnome yadda yadda.. trying to get it back. Where should I look? been trollin the forum for a bit
[08:21] <Xyloc> I've started it, yes...
[08:21] <mustard5> Xyloc, you can just copy the bottom line and substitute your username in the place where the previous line has 'root'
[08:21] <mustard5> Xyloc, thats the easiest way to add yourself to sudoers
[08:21] <vladuz976> graft: you know how i could get rid of this "<80>" character that appears in my file?
[08:22] <hastesaver> vladuz976, you want to convert <80>c to {\em c} (where c is a single character) -- is that it?
[08:22] <graft> vladuz976: you could do like: cat <file> | sed 's/[^a-zA-Z0-9\s] //g'
[08:22] <mustard5> Xyloc, some sudoers are set up with a %adm group and you add your user the the adm group to get sudoers
[08:22] <apathy> what do i put in name?
[08:22] <apathy> apathy? or an mail address
[08:22] <graft> vladuz976: plus whatever other characters you want to retain...
[08:22] <eggzeck> apathy: perhaps 'apathy'? :P
[08:22] <hastesaver> vladuz976, make sure you retain your original file (i.e, back it up)
[08:22] <apathy> oic...
[08:22] <apathy> weird page
[08:22] <orbin> ppcguy: fyi, #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[08:22] <Xyloc> thx Mustard, I really appreciate it.
[08:22] <eggzeck> apathy: did you also get linux-restricted-modules-*?
[08:23] <ppcguy> thanx
[08:23] <mustard5> Xyloc, how did it go?
[08:23] <Xyloc> Well, I'm used to vi and Ubuntu gave me a different editor.
[08:23] <apathy> ahhh right on, nifty page...
[08:23] <apathy> I will bookmark that one
[08:23] <mustard5> Xyloc, k...ctr + o to save  ctrl + x to exit
[08:24] <vladuz976> hastesaver: that is correct except for this. let's say the word "nucleus" is written in italics then it appears as "<80>n<80>u<80>c<80>l<80>e<80>u<80>s"
[08:24] <eggzeck> apathy: yupp, I can even edit it, and then give you link, and you can paste it into your file :)
[08:24] <eggzeck> apathy: did you get what I asked?
[08:24] <hastesaver> vladuz976, yes, but it's easier to convert each character individually -- it will make a mess of your latex file, though :)
[08:24] <mustard5> Xyloc, check the filename it is saving to on the way out...I see it sometimes choosing sudoers.temp for the name of the file to save
[08:25] <mustard5> Xyloc, not sure why it does that ..maybe its supposed to  :)
[08:25] <hastesaver> vladuz976, you can do that (convert it to italics, char by char) using sed (except that I don't know sed enough). I could probably do it in Emacs, though...
[08:25] <Zane42> I'm trying to get realplayer working.  I've downloaded it from the realplayer website.  Ran the bin file and followed the instructions as I understand them.  But when I try to bring up trailer in firefox I get... Click here to download plugin.  What am I doing wrong?
[08:25] <mustard5> Xyloc, I usually just take the temp part off and save as 'sudoer'
[08:25] <vladuz976> graft: your sed thing is cool too, but it gets rid of the white space between words
[08:25] <Xyloc> mustard, that's true, because of the special nature of visudo
[08:25] <apathy> linux-restricted-modules-*?
[08:25] <Zane42> I can run realplayer just fine from the command prompt.
[08:25] <apathy> i will apt-get install em now
[08:25] <pvd2006> nickrud: ok now I got all those packages installed again
[08:25] <pvd2006> going to try this again
[08:25] <eggzeck> apathy: yes, where the "*" will be replace with your kernel version
[08:26] <vladuz976> hastesaver: basically anything that does the job would be ok, it's just 23 chapters and i don't wanna do it by hand
[08:26] <apathy> 5.10? or breezy?
[08:26] <Zane42> Breezy
[08:26] <Xyloc> mustard: su works fine, sudo doesn't (Yet)
[08:26] <eggzeck> apathy: no
[08:26] <mustard5> Xyloc, k..I'd check the edit
[08:26] <eggzeck> apathy: do this: uname --kernel-version
[08:26] <nickrud> apathy, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:26] <graft> vladuz976: err... i guess sed doesn't like \s, you can use \ \t instead
[08:27] <vladuz976> graft: hastesaver i think the "<80>" stands for a single character too
[08:27] <mustard5> Xyloc, as I say it sometimes saves it to a sudoer.tmp file instead of sudoers
[08:27] <hastesaver> vladuz976, do you really want the italics? I don't see why nucleus should be italicized there ;) And what are all the ^T1^T.^T2  characters at the top?
[08:27] <eggzeck> apathy: after issuing the: uname --kernel-version (that's what you put into there(
[08:27] <mustard5> Xyloc, you can pastebin the file if you like
[08:27] <vladuz976> hastesaver: i don't know either, but that is just an example, mostly it's like "e" for electron so it stands out
[08:27] <eggzeck> apathy: example: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-386 (which is mine)
[08:28] <Xyloc> I'm chatting on a different box than I'm configuring, but thx anyway
[08:28] <mustard5> Xyloc, you want me to pastebin my for an example?
[08:28] <Xyloc> mu: I thing I get the Idea
[08:29] <eggzeck> apathy: so I would do this: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-386
[08:29] <Xyloc> The edit of sudoers went without a glitch
[08:29] <apathy> i have newest version already i guess lol
[08:29] <eggzeck> apathy: but replace my version with yours
[08:29] <apathy> so uname was a variable storing the version data?
[08:29] <Zane42> Anyone?
[08:29] <apathy> cool
[08:29] <Xyloc> mu, is it ok if I open a private chat? the room is a bit buisy...
[08:29] <mustard5> Xyloc, k :)
[08:30] <hastesaver> vladuz976, in general, there's no way out. You can't create structure where there is no structure, etc. LaTeX will possibly choke on 10^F-^G^G, etc
[08:30] <eggzeck> apathy: actually uname is a program that prints system information
[08:30] <mustard5> Xyloc, yeah thats fine
[08:30] <apathy> oic
[08:30] <apathy> there went that little bit of comprehension i thought i had haha
[08:31] <graft> LaTeX will be unhappy about things like % signs... but probably he'll have to do some formatting by hand anyway
[08:31] <vladuz976> hastesaver: yes, that and other math i have to do by hand, but ther is just so much italics that i want to get rid off.
[08:31] <apathy> no matter, once im up and running i have time to get better
[08:31] <hastesaver> apathy, same thing -- $var gives the value of a variable, $(command) gives the output of that command :)
[08:31] <vladuz976> hastesaver: from there it's easy to just make every single "e" italic
[08:31] <mustard5> Xyloc, only registered users can PM btw..are you registered?
[08:31] <apathy> awesome
[08:31] <eggzeck> apathy: just get that damn restricted modules :P
[08:31] <apathy> ...
[08:31] <hastesaver> vladuz976, then you can just remove all the <80> characters
[08:31] <eggzeck> apathy: I was joking, hehe :)
[08:31] <apathy> it ran a while ago
[08:31] <apathy> said i was up to date
[08:32] <vladuz976> hastesaver: don't know how, it seems to be a single characer
[08:32] <apathy> guessing you didnt see it heh
[08:32] <eggzeck> apathy: okay then, now all you need is to show me your xorg.conf
[08:32] <eggzeck> apathy: if you don't hilight me, I won't see jack
[08:32] <eggzeck> apathy: do you see the channels traffic?
[08:32] <eggzeck> hehe :p
[08:32] <hastesaver> vladuz976, open the file in an editor (Emacs, say), copy that character. Do replace (paste that character) with (blank) .
[08:32] <apathy> its been posted for a few ago
[08:32] <apathy> better?
[08:33] <vladuz976> hastesaver: good idea, thanks
[08:33] <eggzeck> apathy: give me link again, and include my nick in your messages ;)
[08:33] <eggzeck> apathy: as I'm doing :)
[08:33] <Xyloc> I'm not registered to this channel, no
[08:33] <pvd2006> why is it that when I go to delete packages it wants to remove stuff like ubuntu-desktop?
[08:33] <mustard5> Xyloc, k
[08:33] <apathy> eggzeck: http://pastebin.com/724092
[08:33] <apathy> :}
[08:33] <untung> hi, how do you install java programming in unbutu?
[08:33] <vladuz976> hastesaver: i get pattern not found for it
[08:34] <Xyloc> mu: I'm trying sudo out now...
[08:34] <nickrud> pvd2006, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, a list of packages that the desktop depends on. If you remove one of those packages, it'll remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:34] <apathy> red now?
[08:34] <mustard5> Xyloc, k
[08:34] <eggzeck> apathy: okay I will edit it.
[08:34] <orbin> ubotu: tell untung about java
[08:34] <hastesaver> vladuz976, make sure you copy paste the character, instead of typing <80> by hand. And you'll probably have to be at the top of the file, some editors only replace ahead of the point in the file.
[08:35] <eggzeck> apathy: while I do that, run this please: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BACKUP
[08:35] <apathy> will do
[08:35] <Xyloc> mu:No, it doesn't work, su does however, but that won't work in GNOME
[08:36] <mustard5> Xyloc, there must be problem with your edit..or it saved to the wrong file ..thats my guess
[08:36] <hastesaver> apathy, if you're using Xchat, you can type eg<TAB> :)
[08:36] <apathy> hastesaver, nice
[08:36] <apathy> hastesaver, thanks
[08:36] <mustard5> Xyloc, check syntax again?
[08:37] <apathy> eggzeck, nice tip heh
[08:37] <vladuz976> hastesaver: no, it can't find it
[08:37] <pvd2006> I need to check and make sure im deleting the right ones
[08:37] <apathy> eggzeck, backed up
[08:37] <mustard5> Xyloc, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14201   <<my sudoers file
[08:37] <Xyloc> mu: I tried saving to /etc/sudoers via visudo, but it reports:
[08:37] <eggzeck> apathy: okay, now wait for your xorg.conf, I'm working on it
[08:37] <pvd2006> does purge remove config files and the binary files?
[08:37] <apathy> eggzeck, you rock man
[08:38] <apathy> i was in here earlier today and was almost completely ignored
[08:38] <hastesaver> vladuz976, oh, try escaping the backlashes or something. Or type C-q before pasting the character (if it's Emacs)... something, you should be able to :)
[08:39] <pvd2006> im going to have to read the manual pages for aptitude, its confusing
[08:39] <Xyloc> mu: thx for the paste...It looks exactly the same as my sudoers file, except the username of course...
[08:39] <apathy> resulting from that I killed my xorg.conf file.... i.e. no graphical display
[08:39] <graft> vladuz976: that sed trick didn't work?
[08:39] <mustard5> Xyloc, so what is it reporting when you save?
[08:39] <apathy> i.e. me in a command prompt and no klnowledge of commands lol
[08:39] <vladuz976> graft: did, except for the "<80>" stuff
[08:39] <hastesaver> graft, it's some character which displays as <80>
[08:39] <hasan> does anyone have any good advice for guide in learning command promt
[08:40] <graft> um
[08:40] <Xyloc> mu: file /etc/sudoers unchanged
[08:40] <mustard5> Xyloc, what exactly is happening when you use sudo?
[08:40] <apathy> superuser do
[08:40] <mustard5> Xyloc, does it just drop the the next line?
[08:40] <apathy> it runs a command as if you were root
[08:40] <orbin> pvd2006: iirc, purge removes the files that package installs + the package cache
[08:40] <Xyloc> mu: No it says I'm using the wrong password.
[08:41] <mustard5> Xyloc, k..well change your password for your user and see what happens
[08:41] <Xyloc> mu: Still, su works fine, so that can't be it.
[08:41] <mustard5> Xyloc, sudo uses the user password
[08:41] <apathy> su is switch user in ubuntu
[08:41] <hastesaver> hasan, There's nothing to a command prompt; you type a command, it runs it. You just need to know what commands exist :)
[08:41] <apathy> and what they do haha
[08:41] <apathy> try this in dos man
[08:42] <apathy> deltree C:\**
[08:42] <Xyloc> mu: strange settings, I thought it would use the root passwd instead.
[08:42] <apathy> theres a command heh
[08:42] <Xyloc> mu : Here goes nothing.
[08:42] <mustard5> Xyloc, no..sudo is for the superuser to use
[08:42] <hastesaver> apathy, don't do that. People will try it, and there will be much bitterness...
[08:42] <eggzeck> apathy: almost done
[08:43] <apathy> hastesaver, no . means no work heh
[08:43] <apathy> eggzeck, cool
[08:44] <d-o-b> how do I enable perl support in Apache2?
[08:44] <odat> hi everyone
[08:44] <apathy> hastesaver, i have an audio file of these prank guys calling an aol user and making her think theres beastial pr0n on her comp, they then cinvince her that is a search for it and she presses enter heh
[08:44] <Xyloc> mu: It seems a bit silly to use the user pwd to get higher priviliges
[08:45] <odat> anyone know why when i open the login window in my system tools it appears for a second then disappears
[08:45] <Xyloc> mu: I have to get used to the logic I guess
[08:45] <mustard5> Xyloc, well only you have the superuser account :)
[08:45] <mustard5> Xyloc, its a method of allowing you to temporarily execute root commands without the need to switch users
[08:45] <graft> okay, vladuz976 : add another pipe and try: sed 's/\x80//g'
[08:46] <apathy> ack getting all regular even
[08:46] <eggzeck> apathy: http://pastebin.com/724105 there you go, now once you add that to /etc/X11/xorg.conf - reboot, and then come back here so I can show you how to test everything :)
[08:46] <hasan> what does samba do?
[08:46] <graft> makes you dance
[08:46] <Xyloc> mu: Yes, but I still think it's strange that I use my normal password to do that instead of the root passwd.
[08:46] <graft> !samba
[08:46] <ubotu> I guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[08:46] <Xyloc> mu: Doesn't that have severe sucrity implications?
[08:47] <mustard5> Xyloc, I'll show you a link on the subject. :)
[08:47] <odat> when i double click on thunderbird nothing happens and sometimes i get a window then it disappears
[08:47] <mustard5> !root
[08:47] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:47] <odat> whats wrong
[08:47] <vladuz976> graft: that did it. how did you find out?
[08:47] <mustard5> Xyloc, read the page that ubotu is showing above :D
[08:47] <mustard5> Xyloc, normally root is disabled in ubuntu..but you have enabled it
[08:48] <graft> vladuz976: i'm smart
[08:48] <mustard5> Xyloc, I suspect you used the expert install method?
[08:48] <Xyloc> mu: Yes, I did, in the hope of getting a more standard Linux installation
[08:48] <graft> vladuz976: err, i mean, <80> usually means a hex sequence which doesn't have a standard escape defined
[08:48] <vladuz976> graft: must be, but if you tell me your secret then i'll become smart, too
[08:48] <apathy> eggzeck, rebooting
[08:48] <eggzeck> apathy: good luck
[08:48] <vladuz976> graft: oh ok
[08:48] <shadukan> why guys i have a question i know the answer but havent found any good tutorial
[08:49] <graft> vladuz976: so, you can use sed to replace the hex code, with \x80
[08:49] <odat> anyone?
[08:49] <mustard5> Xyloc, well you got a root password so I guess it worked :)   Normally there is no root password at all with the default install
[08:49] <shadukan> i want to connect my desktop with my laptop using an ethernet connection and then use the wireless interface to route packages of desktop to the network
[08:49] <mustard5> Xyloc, anyway...the hungry hordes are bothering me...I have to go cook dinner
[08:49] <Xyloc> thx for the links everyone
[08:49] <vladuz976> graft: thanks a lot, that really helped a great deal
[08:50] <_yo_sidny4> how do I get my wireless working, I installed ndiswrapper, installed the driver, added the driver info to modprobe
[08:50] <Xyloc> mu: Bon appettit mustard5
[08:50] <shadukan> i know the answer is port forwarding.. but havent found good tutorials about it
[08:50] <mustard5> Xyloc, good luck and have fun :)
[08:51] <Xyloc> mu: thx again, if I can help you out on PDF editing, just let me know...
[08:51] <graft> vladuz976: de nada
[08:51] <shadukan> does anyone has any idea
[08:51] <shadukan> ?
[08:51] <shadukan> have any idea*
[08:52] <Xyloc> ubotu: thx for the help
[08:52] <_yo_sidny4> how do I get my wireless working, I installed ndiswrapper, installed the driver, and added the driver info to modprobe
[08:52] <Ademan> where are the "cheat codes" for kernel 2.6?
[08:53] <apathy> ok im back
[08:53] <apathy> but this screen is REALLY BRIGHT
[08:53] <eggzeck> apathy: everything went smooth?
[08:53] <hyphenated> should we care? ;-)
[08:53] <apathy> the tv displays now abso spankin lutely
[08:53] <eggzeck> apathy: now we test some things
[08:53] <apathy> eggzeck, but my monitor is so bright i can barely read this on it heh
[08:53] <hyphenated> you made your TV display nicely but your monitor display really bright?
[08:54] <eggzeck> apathy: dude, you don't know how to make the brightness go down? heh
[08:54] <apathy> eggzeck, what do we need to test?
[08:55] <apathy> eggzeck, I imagin i can figure it out
[08:55] <eggzeck> apathy: run this in term: fglrxinfo
[08:55] <eggzeck> apathy: and make sure it does NOT say mesa
[08:55] <Ademan> so yeah... where can i see a list of ubuntu boot options?
[08:56] <Ademan> eggzeck: iirc with a few of my attempts at installing fglrxinfo told me my correct vendor and whatnot, but then i couldnt use anything because DRI wasnt working
[08:56] <apathy> it displays my video card info
[08:56] <eggzeck> apathy: good
[08:56] <eggzeck> apathy: now this: glxgears
[08:56] <eggzeck> apathy: does it run smooth
[08:56] <eggzeck> ?
[08:56] <apathy> eggzeck, is good
[08:57] <apathy> eggzeck, smooth and such
[08:57] <eggzeck> apathy: okay, now this: fgl_glxgears
[08:58] <apathy> like around 330 fps on that
[08:58] <eggzeck> that's good
[08:58] <eggzeck> so everything is fine
[08:58] <apathy> awesome
[08:58] <eggzeck> and you have 3D accel now
[08:59] <apathy> so it would seem heh
[08:59] <eggzeck> no, you DO
[08:59] <eggzeck> heh
[08:59] <apathy> i never would have figured that out on my own lol
[08:59] <apathy> too much of a jump from microsoft heh
[09:00] <apathy> ok, now im going to eat my foot a bit
[09:00] <B1zz> mmmmm foot
[09:00] <hasan> Ubuntu has been the easiest linux that i have run into so far
[09:01] <apathy> how do i turn down brightness on my monitor but not my tv? besides the monitors hardware menu heh
[09:01] <hasan> graphic interface is amazing
[09:01] <eggzeck> lol B1zz
[09:01] <B1zz> :-p
[09:01] <Ademan> i hate to keep spamming you guys, but where can i find a list of linux boot options?
[09:01] <B1zz> google?
[09:01] <hasan> u mean terminal commands ademan?
[09:01] <apathy> if you know what you need then its on google heh
[09:01] <Ademan> hasan: no i mean boot options...
[09:02] <Ademan> like from the grub or lilo menu
[09:02] <Ademan> apathy: i'm having little luck :-/
[09:02] <hasan> umm isn't that in the install disc? when you originall install it?
[09:03] <hasan> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/warty/base/lilo
[09:03] <hasan> thats for lili
[09:03] <hasan> lilo
[09:04] <hastesaver> Ademan, /etc/boot/menu.lst ?
[09:05] <lawton> hello
[09:05] <nickrud> apathy, you want to change the monitor gamma; try xgamma -gamma 0.8 on a command line; adjust the number to suit. When happy, add Option "Gamma" <number> to your xogr in the monitor section
[09:05] <Ademan> hasan: i was kinda hoping that was a downsized list...
[09:06] <nickrud> errpast-wc1, xorg
[09:06] <nickrud> err apathy xorg.conf even
[09:06] <traveller> does anyone have problems with uim causing gnome-terminal to crash? how do i find out what's wrong?
[09:06] <hasan> so once samba is active i can connect to my ip using FTP?
[09:06] <apathy> nickrud, awesome ty
[09:06] <Ademan> hasan: no
[09:07] <mlambie> I'm running php5 with apache2 on breezy. It seems to be missing some functionality - tidy_parse_file() for example.
[09:07] <Ademan> you need an ftp server for that
[09:07] <Ademan> you can connect with windows share if you have samba
[09:07] <hasan> how do i create an FTP/HTTP server?
[09:07] <mlambie> Does anyone know how I can enable these functions (there's no php5-tidy module) or will I need to compile from source?
[09:07] <Ademan> hasan: vstfpd
[09:08] <lawton> anyone have advice about the best partitioing method for ubuntu?
[09:08] <hasan> ademan: thanks
[09:08] <mlambie> hasan: I don't think Samba supports FTP connections.
[09:08] <Ademan> http server would be apache2's httpd
[09:08] <Ademan> both can be found with synaptic
[09:08] <Ademan> mlambie: haha trust me it doesnt
[09:09] <hasan> which synaptic packages do i install?
[09:09] <Ademan> i've been tryign to get my ftp server working for about a couple of days now, i even tried using samba
[09:10] <hasan> apache2-mpm-prefork?
[09:10] <Ademan> hasan: apache2-httpd
[09:10] <Ademan> iirc
[09:10] <Ademan> lemme check
[09:10] <B1zz> i love synaptic
[09:10] <hasan> hmmm which specifically? or all the apache?
[09:12] <Ademan> looks like just apache2
[09:12] <Ademan> is all you need
[09:12] <hasan> i think i have more than 1 Apache2 option...i think Apache-common is what i will go with
[09:13] <Ademan> no
[09:13] <apathy> eggzeck, ok, one last question, in the monitor section, there used to be some numbers, for Horiz?? and VertRefresh and they had values, but its all from memory, do you have any idea iof that needs to be there and if that is what is causing the issue?
[09:13] <Ademan> just the apache2 package
[09:13] <_yo_sidny4> I just did ndiswrapper -m, how do I get my wireless to work?
[09:13] <Ademan> apache-common is a support library, it will automatically be installed if its needed
[09:14] <eggzeck> apathy: run this: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[09:14] <delmar> anyone recommend a good audio file editor please?
[09:15] <hasan> ademan: so i isntalled the apache package- how do i access apache2 server?
[09:15] <hasan> ademan: lets say i want to put up a basic html file
[09:15] <apathy> eggzeck, theres my numbers
[09:16] <Ademan> /var/www
[09:16] <Ademan> note that /var/www is owned by root
[09:16] <Ademan> so you need to sudo to modify it
[09:16] <eggzeck> apathy: then add that to your xorg.conf: first two is your HorizSync
[09:16] <eggzeck> apathy: the second pair is your VertRefresh
[09:16] <apathy> eggzeck, awesome tyvm
[09:16] <hasan> to read only?
[09:16] <hasan> what do i modify to?
[09:17] <Ademan> i'd reccomend  "sudo chown <your user> /var/www"
[09:17] <Ademan> of course no < > when you actually type it
[09:17] <Ademan> (note thats in terminal)
[09:17] <hasan> ofcourse
[09:17] <hasan> :)
[09:17] <hasan> now what?
[09:17] <eggzeck> apathy: so: in xorg.conf in the section "Monitor", you would add: HorizSync $value and next line VertRefresh $value (where $value is replaced with what the command gave you(
[09:18] <Ademan> now you should be able to modify it all you want
[09:18] <hasan> so how would i post say a webpage on it?
[09:18] <Ademan> now, again, you DID install the apache2 package and only that right?
[09:18] <apathy> eggzeck, ok, thanks man, if everything goes right ill brb after reboot
[09:18] <hasan> yeah
[09:18] <eggzeck> apathy: you could just hit ctrl+alt+backspace too
[09:18] <apathy> eggzeck, after updating everything
[09:19] <eggzeck> apathy: yes after updating
[09:19] <eggzeck> errr
[09:19] <Plus5Camel> what happens if my ubuntu boots into terminal logon on first boot?
[09:19] <eggzeck> uh oh, I hope he finished editing first
[09:19] <hasan> dumb question: i see the apache default folder....if i type in my IP i will see the apache website?
[09:19] <Ademan> hasan: use your file browser to navigate to /var/www   right click->create new document->Empty File
[09:19] <Ademan> rename it to index.html
[09:19] <Ademan> modify it with a text editor
[09:19] <Ademan> (ie gedit)
[09:20] <hasan> done
[09:20] <Ademan> well
[09:20] <glick> hey so is java gonna ship with ubuntu now that it is going to be opensourcie
[09:20] <glick> ?
[09:20] <Ademan> modify index.html to your hearts content, give it some meaning
[09:21] <hasan> now how can i see this file?
[09:21] <Ademan> in your web browser you shoudl be able to type "localhost"
[09:21] <hasan> from an http file
[09:21] <Ademan> if your server is working correctly, it should open index.html
[09:21] <apathy> eggzeck, lol, that was the single fastest reboot I have ever seen
[09:21] <hasan> Forbidden
[09:21] <hasan> You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.
[09:21] <hasan> Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80
[09:21] <hasan> weird
[09:21] <Ademan> well your server is working
[09:21] <Ademan> gimme a second to think about this
[09:22] <ghozzt> anyone here that can help with a ACR38 smart card (pcsc tools) and addressing that card via usbserialemulation (wine) ?
[09:22] <eggzeck> apathy: it really isn't a real reboot :p
[09:22] <eggzeck> apathy: but works fine :)
[09:22] <apathy> eggzeck, I knew youd say that lol, but at least a kernel reload right?
[09:22] <glick> hey is upbuntu dappster gonna come with a firewall configuration utility?
[09:22] <hasan> does it have to do with permissions?
[09:23] <Ademan> yep
[09:23] <eggzeck> apathy: everything that is essential to xorg is restarted.
[09:23] <apathy> eggzeck, ok cool
[09:23] <apathy> eggzeck, didnt help on colors tho lol, kinda weird
[09:23] <Ademan> hasan: right click on index.html choose properties and check the permissions tab
[09:23] <eggzeck> apathy: that's not the full explantion, but I'm quite tired :p
[09:23] <Ademan> paste the "text string" you shoudl see at the bottom
[09:23] <ghozzt> the ACR38 smart card is working but I don't know ho to interface with this card via WINE
[09:24] <apathy> eggzeck, np man, I appreciate all the help you have given me exponentially
[09:24] <eggzeck> apathy: :)
[09:24] <glick> i want a dual 64bit machine with a nice flat screen lcd display
[09:24] <apathy> im going to do a little bit of research on how to install VLC on my compy
[09:24] <glick> is that so much to ask for?
[09:25] <hasan> haha
[09:25] <hasan> it works
[09:25] <hasan> ...
[09:25] <Ademan> it might say "text representation"
[09:25] <apathy> eggzeck, have a good night eggzeck
[09:25] <Ademan> what'd you change?\
[09:25] <hasan> permissions on my index.html
[09:25] <hasan> i think it was only for my specific username at first
[09:25] <lawton> hi, can someone tell me if i need to define a swap partition in Breezy Badger?
[09:25] <hasan> it was for owner owny
[09:25] <hasan> only*
[09:25] <lawton> i'm using this guide: http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/903/ not sure if it is out of date
[09:25] <hasan> i made it so everyone could read it
[09:25] <Ademan> k, well good job, good
[09:26] <Ademan> i recomend you set that to /var/www (you can set it the same way since you now own it)
[09:26] <lawton> hello?
[09:26] <glick> im dying to swietch back to to ubuntu
[09:26] <Ademan> because whenever you create a file in a directory it assumes the permissions of the directory
[09:26] <glick> but i may as well wait till june firstie
[09:26] <glick> when dapper drakker is released
[09:26] <bimberi> lawton: it's usually a good idea, how much RAM do you have?
[09:26] <lawton> bimberi: 512 MB
[09:27] <ghozzt> anyone here that can help with usbserial emulation?
[09:27] <Ademan> so hasan: the next step is making it so the entire world can access your http server... so here are a few questions, 1) are you behind a router? if so how many?
[09:27] <hasan> i have a cable modem
[09:27] <Ademan> no routers?
[09:27] <lawton> bimberi: i can't seem to figure out how to define a partition as swap according to the above guide, the options are different...
[09:27] <hasan> i don't think i am behind a router
[09:28] <lawton> can i just skip the swap partition for now?
[09:28] <hasan> i don't know if i am
[09:28] <Ademan> try in your browser (address bar) 192.168.1.1
[09:28] <eggzeck> apathy: thank you, same to you :)
[09:28] <glick> skip swap partition
[09:28] <glick> ?
[09:28] <glick> you need swapster
[09:28] <hasan> it says connecting on the bottom but nothing is loading
[09:28] <Ademan> so does anyone know where i could find a list of ubuntu boot options are?
[09:29] <Ademan> hasan: ok you're probably not behind a router then
[09:29] <bimberi> lawton: the installer will create a swap partition by default
[09:29] <Ademan> for the hell of it try 192.168.2.1 as well
[09:29] <apathy> ok so, can I use debian VLC in ubuntu?
[09:29] <lawton> bimberi: oh, so i just leave it some free space?
[09:29] <hasan> hmm
[09:29] <hasan> dude i think my www folder messed up
[09:30] <hasan> i can't access my html file anymore
[09:30] <lawton> is this guide accurate? http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/903/
[09:30] <lawton> maybe i should find another guide
[09:30] <Ademan> hrm, did you change anything?
[09:30] <hasan> yeah....fixed it
[09:30] <bimberi> lawton: iirc it will offer to use the free space and create 2 partitions in it - one swap and one for /
[09:30] <Plus5Camel> would anyone be willing to PM me for help?
[09:30] <hasan> i typed in 192.168.2.1 and nothing is comming up
[09:30] <lawton> bimberi: oh yeah, it just did that :)
[09:31] <Ademan> Plus5Camel: just ask your question in here and we'll all try and answer
[09:31] <hasan> does this mean i am not behind a router?
[09:31] <lawton> hrm...
[09:31] <bimberi> lawton: phew :)
[09:31] <Ademan> hasan: probably not, so in that case go to a site that can find your IP, and try entering that IP in your browser's address bar
[09:32] <ghozzt> anyone here that can help me with usbserial (kernel)
[09:32] <ghozzt> for a ACR38 smart card reader?
[09:32] <lawton> bimberi: indeed, i wonder why http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/903/ makes it so complicated
[09:33] <hasan> nothing is comming up when i am typing in my ip into the bar
[09:33] <markc> is there a known problem with upgrading openssh-client (dapper) ?
[09:33] <hasan> it says "Connection was refused when attempting to contact <my ip address>"
[09:33] <emptyshell> can anyone tell me if there is a boot cd that will allow a user to securely (DoD) wipe a harddrive/
[09:33] <Ademan> you're POSITIVE its your correct IP ?
[09:33] <B1zz> ahhh coulnt get any better than this a fresh install of Xubuntu and FFVII AC movie playing :-p
[09:33] <markc> I'm getting a -> unable to make backup link of `./usr/bin/ssh' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[09:33] <bimberi> lawton: hm, it seems to be referring to a 2 drive setup
[09:34] <Ademan> sounds like you ARE behind a youter to me
[09:34] <hasan> 68.37.133.175
[09:34] <Ademan> i dont generally reccomend pasting your IP in IRC channels lol
[09:34] <hasan> lol
[09:34] <hasan> hackers?
[09:34] <Ademan> you never know
[09:34] <zcat[1] > DoS usually..
[09:35] <hasan> true
[09:35] <lawton> bimberi: i think IDE1 master in that config is all windows... looks like 1 drive for linux, 1 for windows
[09:35] <hurax> Ademan: in freenode you see everyone's ip
[09:35] <hasan> okay so i typed in my ip
[09:35] <hasan> and it is not working
[09:35] <Ademan> zcat[1] : is there any equivalent to ipconfig in bash?
[09:35] <Ademan> hasan: router no doubt then
[09:35] <zcat[1] > ifconfig
[09:35] <Ademan> zcat[1] : thanks
[09:36] <joelbryan> hello, anyone know a workaround on installing dapper on hoary?
[09:36] <Ademan> zcat[1] : also do you know where i might find a list of boot options for ubuntu?
[09:36] <joelbryan> I got a dpkg error when installing lvm2
[09:36] <zcat[1] > joelbryan: backup your data and do a fresh install?
[09:36] <zcat[1] > Ademan: /boot/grub/menu.list
[09:36] <zcat[1] > that?
[09:37] <hasan> ademan: do you know how i can get past my router?
[09:37] <Ademan> hasan: yes, but we hafta figure out your router's IP first
[09:38] <Ademan> zcat[1] : can ifconfig show your gateway IP?
[09:38] <zcat[1] > hasan: if your router is doing NAT then you usually need to log onto it and configure port forwarding or 'pinholing' so people can reach connect from outside
[09:38] <hasan> my local host messed up again
[09:38] <zcat[1] > Ademan: Umm.. I think it does.. if not, route will..
[09:38] <hasan> i didn't change anything
[09:39] <Ademan> zcat[1] : hrm ok, i'll look into route
[09:39] <zcat[1] > yeah, ifconfig doesn't thow the gateway. I thought it did :(
[09:39] <zcat[1] > *sow
[09:39] <zcat[1] > *show
[09:39] <zcat[1] > gah!! stupid keyboard!
[09:39] <general> test
[09:39] <hasan> fixed
[09:40] <hasan> how do i get my routers ip?
[09:40] <general> dhclient eth0
[09:40] <zcat[1] > hasan: route -n
[09:40] <Ademan> hasan: in terminal type this "sudo chown <your user> -R /var/www" "sudo chmod <your user> -R u=rwx g=rx o=rx"
[09:41] <Ademan> zcat[1] : i'm using lilo lol
[09:41] <vitry> hi people; I have a problem http://pastebin.com/724140
[09:41] <zcat[1] > Ademan: ahhh.. /etc/lilo.conf then .. and you have to rerun lilo if you change anything :)
[09:41] <Ademan> once you've done that i can show you how to get your router's IP
[09:41] <general> is there a way to put dell truemobile in monitor mode or is the only way to use ndiswrapper / write your own driver?
[09:42] <Ademan> (hasan)
[09:42] <Ademan> zcat[1] : thanks, i'm so fed up with my laptop lol
[09:42] <hasan> it said "invalde mode string: <myusername>
[09:43] <hasan> for the second command
[09:43] <zcat[1] > I have a 500mhz dell with 128m ram and a faulty keyboard.. I'm waiting for someone to steal it so I can buy a new one on insurance!
[09:43] <Ademan> hasan then do these 3 instead
[09:43] <Ademan> actually sorry, this one
[09:44] <Ademan> "sudo chmod u=rwx g=rx o=rx -R /var/www"
[09:44] <osfameron> how do I get my external HD to stop spinning?
[09:44] <osfameron> I'd have thought that unmounting it might have helped
[09:44] <zcat[1] > Ademan: isn't there a web group the user can be added to ?
[09:44] <dstryd> unplug it
[09:44] <osfameron> but on ubuntu 5.04 with a Lacie external HD, it doesn't stop spinning
[09:44] <osfameron> dstryd: yeah, it's not as if the data on it's important
[09:44] <hasan> cool
[09:44] <hasan> done
[09:44] <osfameron> any useful answers?
[09:44] <Ademan> zcat[1] : if there is i created my http group for nothing :-)
[09:45] <hasan> how do i get my routers ip?
[09:45] <osfameron> or suggestions on what to man :-)
[09:45] <Ademan> hasan
[09:45] <Ademan> in terminal "route"
[09:45] <hasan> okay 2 ips came up....
[09:45] <snail> osfameron: how are you connecting to it?
[09:45] <apathy> man, ubuntu is much better than I had anticipated
[09:45] <hasan> actually, 2 destination things came up
[09:45] <Ademan> paste the second line
[09:45] <hasan> one has an ip the other one says default
[09:45] <osfameron> snail: usb cable
[09:45] <Ademan> default
[09:46] <Ademan> paste that line here
[09:46] <snail> osfameron: is the hard drive usb powered?
[09:46] <hasan> default         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1
[09:46] <zcat[1] > Ademan: true. you should talk hasan through creating a http group and adding the user to it.. that's the 'riht' way of granting write access..
[09:46] <Ademan> k in your browser go to 192.168.0.1
[09:46] <snail> or does it have a mains power connection as well?
[09:46] <apathy> I use dhcp, as I have a router
[09:46] <Ademan> zcat[1] : hehe, well its very very possible the web group was created for a reason and i'm just a retard
[09:47] <Ademan> lemme see if it exists
[09:47] <Ademan> if it does, i'm a retard
[09:47] <Ademan> lol
[09:47] <osfameron> snail: no, only mains powered, unfortunately
[09:47] <zcat[1] > nah, I checked and all my web stuff is root.root ..
[09:47] <richiefrich> apathy, i manually configure mine, i have 5 boxes :)
[09:47] <hasan> umm so now what do i do?
[09:47] <Ademan> w00t dapper installer finished burning
[09:47] <Ademan> hasan: did a web page come up?
[09:48] <zcat[1] > bad design, ubuntu should make a web group and set up proper permissions. Slack!
[09:48] <snail> osfameron: in theory, if you disconnect the usb cable, in theory it should power down automagically i believe. also it may power down automagically after a set period of time
[09:48] <hasan> umm on my local host
[09:48] <osfameron> snail: that's what I thought
[09:48] <Ademan> no, for 192.168.0.1
[09:48] <osfameron> it doesn't seem to happen
[09:48] <richiefrich> hasan, http://loacalhost
[09:48] <snail> zcat[1] : define "web stuff"
[09:48] <osfameron> snail: though I was thinking the "set period of time" would be like 15 seconds - 2 minutes
[09:48] <hasan> it asked me for a user name and password
[09:48] <zcat[1] > ownsership and write access to /var/www/
[09:48] <Ademan> for the second one type "admin"
[09:48] <Ademan> no username
[09:48] <snail> osfameron: i have no idea, sorry
[09:48] <osfameron> and disconnecting the usb doesn't park it
[09:49] <osfameron> ah, well, thanks anyway
[09:49] <richiefrich> hasan, thats your router, i believe
[09:49] <glick> hey does ubuntu calender still work
[09:49] <glick> ?
[09:49] <Ademan> richiefrich: thats what he's looking for...
[09:49] <_carl> Hey guys I need a little hand...
[09:49] <Ademan> hasan: uname="" password="admin"
[09:49] <richiefrich> Ademan, ahh, well u foujnd it, or whom ever helped him
[09:49] <Ademan> a web page SHOULD come up
[09:49] <_carl> How do I install a .deb package that I have locally on my HD but is not in a respitory
[09:49] <hasan> not working
[09:49] <zcat[1] > anyhow.. I got on the computer to set up zoneminder..  stop distracting me :)
[09:50] <Ademan> hrm, failed pasword?
[09:50] <Ademan> try no username no password
[09:50] <hasan> nope
[09:50] <Ademan> you knoww i didnt mean for you to type the quotes right? lol
[09:50] <myleftfoot> _carl: sudo dpkg -i paackagename.deb
[09:50] <general> _carl dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:50] <hasan> yeah
[09:50] <richiefrich> hasan, what router u have ?
[09:50] <Ademan> k lol
[09:50] <_carl> Thanks guys
[09:50] <hasan> u mean the ip?
[09:50] <Ademan> richiefrich: he was unaware of any router till now
[09:50] <zcat[1] > username admin pass admin or 1234
[09:50] <hasan> lol....yeah
[09:50] <Ademan> hasan: are you at school? home? what?
[09:51] <richiefrich> Ademan, ok but they all default differently
[09:51] <general> does anybody has some experience with mobile ip?
[09:51] <ghozzt> anyone here that has some experience with smart card readers
[09:51] <ghozzt> ?
[09:51] <hasan> home
[09:51] <Ademan> richiefrich: hehe yeah, but if he didnt know he had a router i doubt he knows what make it is :-)
[09:51] <Ademan> hasan: with your parents?
[09:51] <hasan> lol yeah
[09:51] <richiefrich> Ademan, what u told him was for linksys
[09:51] <Ademan> hasan: ask them for the router password
[09:51] <Ademan> richiefrich: yep, i dont know any others
[09:51] <hasan> wait...i am behind a router
[09:52] <zcat[1] > admin/admin or admin/1234 works for a whole bunch of routers..
[09:52] <richiefrich> Ademan, i know dlink  to
[09:52] <hasan> netgear
[09:52] <richiefrich> hasan, i dont know that one :(
[09:52] <Ademan> OK, gimme a second to look up the default username and password for you
[09:52] <Ademan> assuming your parents didnt change it (unless they're tech savvy i'll bet they didnt)
[09:53] <richiefrich> hasan, let me google, what  netgear ? the model number
[09:53] <zcat[1] > hell, even I never changed my router login !!
[09:53] <general> netgear hase i think admin admin
[09:53] <general> -e lol
[09:53] <Ademan> i did for my wireless router, but that's it
[09:53] <debian> bom dia
[09:53] <hasan> wireless router
[09:54] <richiefrich> hasan, ok what ver?
[09:54] <hasan> mr814
[09:54] <richiefrich> or try what general said
[09:54] <Ademan> zcat[1] : just for the record i have a "www-data" group on my computer taht i didnt make :-)
[09:55] <richiefrich> Ademan,  they should all be default, by standard, but there not and that sucks
[09:55] <hasan> okay
[09:55] <hasan> i am in my router
[09:55] <Ademan> richiefrich: yep :-/
[09:55] <hasan> i got the password
[09:55] <Ademan> hasan: yay
[09:55] <hasan> i have a crap load of options
[09:55] <zcat[1] > configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:56] <zcat[1] > Hmmm..
[09:56] <Ademan> so hasan: what you need is "port forwarding" or "virtual servers" and it MIGHT be in an "advanced options"
[09:56] <debian> hasan vou-te emviar uma coisa
[09:56] <richiefrich> hasan, cool
[09:56] <debian> ok
[09:56] <hasan> port forwarding found
[09:56] <Ademan> alright cool
[09:56] <hasan> it says Add, Edit and delete
[09:56] <richiefrich> add
[09:56] <Ademan> port 80 tcp
[09:57] <hasan> Service name?
[09:57] <Ademan> httpd
[09:57] <richiefrich> Ademan, port 80?
[09:57] <zcat[1] > http
[09:57] <debian> www.synat.org
[09:57] <richiefrich> Ademan, that should be open
[09:57] <richiefrich> :)
[09:57] <Ademan> richiefrich: mine def wasnt by default
[09:57] <hasan> server ip address?
[09:57] <Ademan> ok
[09:57] <hasan> my ip address?
[09:57] <Ademan> kinda
[09:57] <Ademan> your INTERNAL IP
[09:57] <chamo> hello
[09:57] <Ademan> you can find that in a "client table"
[09:57] <hasan> whats that?
[09:57] <Ademan> probably "dhcp client table" or something like that
[09:57] <zcat[1] > hasan: what ifconfig eth0 tells you..
[09:58] <richiefrich> Ademan, mine is what linksys u have ?  i have    WRT54G
[09:58] <Ademan> or what zcat[1]  said... in terminal "ifconfig" it shoudl give you your IP
[09:58] <Ademan> your internal IP that is
[09:58] <hasan> is it supposed to be on my router?
[09:58] <Ademan> it should be, but lets do it the terminal way
[09:59] <hasan> alright
[09:59] <Ademan> "inet addr: <what you want>" it should probably be 192.168.0.something
[09:59] <hasan> a 0 or a 1
[09:59] <zcat[1] > Ademan: mine was 10.0.0.something .. dlink default to that
[09:59] <debian> ademan queres uma conversa
[10:00] <debian> tou a entrar
[10:00] <dentist2> hey guys.. interesting question... i want to create a file socket... say "/tmp/temp.socket" to a UDP port on a remote host... anyone know how?
[10:00] <debian> ok
[10:00] <richiefrich> zcat[1] , dlink is weird :)
[10:00] <Mahmoud85> hasan "something" has to be greater than 0 (1-254)
[10:00] <Ademan> yay i think i broke the dapper installer
[10:00] <hasan> how do i find this through the terminal?
[10:01] <hasan> just type in route?
[10:01] <Ademan> hasan just type "ifconfig"
[10:01] <zcat[1] > the most frustrating thing is the web admin only works with MSIE .. even firefox in windows with java and activex and the browser identification changed cannot properly reconfigure my dlink :(
[10:01] <Ademan> zcat[1] : ouch
[10:01] <zcat[1] > yeah.. fortunately I can reconfigure everything in telnet too..
[10:01] <richiefrich> hasan, ifconfig -a | grep inet
[10:01] <daryl_> I'm trying to follow some instructions for configuring my sound, and its not written for ubuntu.  Could soemoen tell me where i access this?  SETTINGS->CONTROL PANEL->SOUND&MULTIMEDIA->SOUND SYSTEM. Select the Hardware tab and ensure ALSA is selected.
[10:02] <zcat[1] > but since a friend lent me a cisco SOHO I haven't used the dlink for the last 6 months
[10:02] <Ademan> do what richiefrich said, should filter out the junk
[10:02] <zcat[1] > cicso are sweet as!
[10:02] <Ademan> zcat[1] : wow... how do you do that?
[10:02] <richiefrich> Ademan, :)
[10:02] <Ademan> i mean... i assumed there HAD to be another way to do it
[10:03] <Ademan> but... telnet?.... aha
[10:03] <Ademan> is there a standard protocol for config through telnet for routers?
[10:03] <Ademan> and can you teach me? lol
[10:03] <Ademan> it would make me feel 1337
[10:03] <zcat[1] > just telnet in.. it's all command line driven and a lot harder to figure out than the web admin.. but everything is there
[10:03] <richiefrich> Ademan, cicso has it's own interface
[10:03] <daryl_> Anyone have a suggestion for my sound question i posted a couple pages up?
[10:03] <Ademan> zcat[1] : i've actually never used telnet before
[10:03] <jerware> fellaz
[10:04] <jerware> if i find pcmcia drivers,  will anything that goes in the PCMCIA slot work?
[10:04] <zcat[1] > most routers will let you use telnet. Very few people know about it because the web interface is much easier!
[10:04] <ghozzt> jerware: no, you will need appropriate drivers for each device as well
[10:04] <Ademan> how do you even do telnet-ish stuff in linux?
[10:04] <jerware> ok
[10:05] <richiefrich> zcat[1] , and smtp servers too  for telnet :)
[10:05] <zcat[1] > open a terminal and type 'telnet 192.168.0.254" or whatever
[10:05] <Ademan> wow
[10:05] <jerware> i prefer ssh over telnet
[10:05] <Ademan> what a crappy gateway IP lol
[10:05] <daryl_> Anyone have a suggestion for my sound question i posted a couple pages up?
[10:05] <jerware> telnet is plain text, insecure.  ssh is encrypted
[10:05] <zcat[1] > very few routers support ssh though :)
[10:05] <richiefrich> jerware, u can ssh into your router
[10:05] <jerware> i cant even get my telnet server to listening
[10:05] <richiefrich> jerware, u can't ssh into your router
[10:05] <jerware> depends on the router
[10:05] <jerware> cisco can
[10:06] <lawton> hrm, how do reconfigure X to use a different resolution in ubuntu?
[10:06] <jerware> some cisco ios have ssh client
[10:06] <jerware> not linksys
[10:06] <lawton> annoyingly, it's default resolution can't be displayed on a Dell 2007FP
[10:06] <richiefrich> lawton, in /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[10:06] <jerware> but most cisco routers have telnet anyway
[10:06] <zcat[1] > not like it really matetrs when you're just reconfiguring your router though..
[10:06] <richiefrich> jerware, cisco is  great but expensive
[10:06] <lawton> which means i had to haul out a CRT display to be able to see anything on the first boot
[10:07] <jerware> cisco rocks.  i have a lab in my room.
[10:07] <daryl_> I'm trying to follow some instructions for configuring my sound, and its not written for ubuntu.  Could soemoen tell me where i access this?  SETTINGS->CONTROL PANEL->SOUND&MULTIMEDIA->SOUND SYSTEM. Select the Hardware tab and ensure ALSA is selected.
[10:07] <lawton> richiefrich: hrm thanks... i need to edit the text file?
[10:07] <User37> hi all
[10:07] <jerware> ebay is nice for cisco
[10:07] <Ademan> did hasan die?
[10:07] <richiefrich> lawton, just the one line
[10:07] <jerware> doen anyone recomend  particular vendor for a pcmcia nic card, not wireless?
[10:07] <jerware> err does
[10:07] <lawton> richiefrich: there isn't a gui way to do this?
[10:08] <jerware> my integrated nic card was short circuited in the rain.
[10:08] <cheziyi> i can't get scim to working in openoffice... any help?
[10:08] <richiefrich> lawton, u can use gedit if your in X
[10:08] <ubunooby99> erm guys i have a question.
[10:08] <richiefrich> lawton,                  Modes    "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768"
[10:08] <richiefrich> lawton,  that line change it
[10:08] <ubunooby99> can i upgrade from beta version of drapper drake to full version?
[10:08] <ubunooby99> if i download and install drapper now, can i upgrade to final version later on?
[10:09] <spikeb> yeah
[10:09] <lawton> hmm
[10:09] <ubunooby99> spike, u mean yes?
[10:09] <zcat[1] > xircom work..
[10:09] <Ademan> hrm, i can't telnet to my router :-(
[10:09] <Ademan> specific port maybe?
[10:09] <zcat[1] > nmap it :)
[10:09] <Ademan> or is linksys mean?
[10:09] <jerware> has anyone installed ndiswrapper?
[10:09] <cheziyi> isn't ndiswrapper installed by default?
[10:09] <Ademan> zcat[1] : eh?
[10:09] <jerware> linksys doesent have telnet listening
[10:10] <jerware> oh ok
[10:10] <Ademan> damn, so all i have is the web admin (probably best that way)
[10:10] <zcat[1] > nmap's a port scanner.. quite handy for finding open ports or finding lost machines on the network..
[10:10] <jerware> Ademan:  if  you want to configure your linksys router.  contact the default gatway via web interface.  in your address bar type 192.168.1.1
[10:10] <Ademan> yeah i don't have it
[10:10] <cheziyi> i can't get scim working in openoffice.. any help?
[10:11] <jerware> why do you wnt to telnet Ademan?
[10:11] <Ademan> jerware: haha i know, i just thought doing it through telnet might be kinda neat
[10:11] <jerware> no desktop gui?
[10:11] <Ademan> jerware: naw, just playing around
[10:11] <jerware> Ademan: well if you like command line, use a command line web browser.
[10:11] <daryl_> I'm trying to follow some instructions for configuring my sound, and its not written for ubuntu.  Could soemoen tell me where i access this?  SETTINGS->CONTROL PANEL->SOUND&MULTIMEDIA->SOUND SYSTEM. Select the Hardware tab and ensure ALSA is selected.
[10:11] <jerware> Ademan: such as elinks.
[10:11] <ubunooby99> guys, so i can upgrade from bet version to final version for drapperdrake?
[10:11] <ubunooby99> beta version
[10:11] <ubunooby99> to final version.
[10:12] <jerware> i think the latest linksys firmware does have telnet
[10:12] <jerware> try upgrading the flash or firmware
[10:12] <richiefrich> elinks rockX
[10:12] <jerware> or what ever
[10:12] <cheziyi> ubunooby99: i think you can, cos you can even upgrade from older versions
[10:12] <Ademan> jerware: hehe naw i was just foolin around, i had always wondered how people configured routers without web interfaces, and then zcat[1]  mentioned he did his through telnet, and my interest spiked :-)
[10:12] <ubunooby99> thx cheziyi!
[10:12] <jerware> ahh
[10:12] <lawton> richiefrich: i think the bit depth might have been the problem
[10:13] <lawton> or perhaps it was trying to use 1600x1200 @ 75 or 70 hz instead of 60hz
[10:13] <richiefrich> lawton, what is it ?
[10:13] <richiefrich> set to
[10:13] <hasan__> hey
[10:13] <richiefrich> lawton, are u on a lappy ?
[10:13] <lawton> richiefrich: not sure... i didn't see an option to change the refresh
[10:13] <richiefrich> hasan_, we thought we lost u
[10:13] <lawton> i'm tweaking the bit depth
[10:13] <hasan__> yeah
[10:14] <hasan__> i was having problems connecting
[10:14] <Ademan> lol
[10:14] <richiefrich> lawton, pastbin that file
[10:14] <lawton> richiefrich: both a laptop and a desktop
[10:14] <hasan__> umm i am back
[10:14] <lawton> richiefrich: oh ok
[10:14] <hasan__> so how do i find my internal ip and plug it into my router
[10:14] <Ademan> i can't for the life of me get any sort of linux working on my laptop
[10:14] <richiefrich> hasan, ifconfig -a | grep inet
[10:14] <richiefrich> hasan, , ifconfig -a | grep inet
[10:14] <richiefrich> ^^^
[10:14] <Ademan> what richiefrich said
[10:14] <hasan__> okay
[10:14] <Ademan> should spit out an IP like 192.168.0.something
[10:15] <richiefrich> Ademan, i missed the __
[10:15] <hasan__> i got my inet address
[10:15] <Ademan> paste it here
[10:15] <hasan__> 192.168.0.2
[10:15] <Ademan> beautiful
[10:15] <richiefrich> hasan_,  /exec -o  ifconfig -a | grep inet
[10:15] <richiefrich> do that in IRC ^^
[10:15] <Ademan> haha no he'll get dropped for spam
[10:15] <punkmexic> hi
[10:16] <Ademan> anyways
[10:16] <richiefrich> Ademan, that will paste 2 line
[10:16] <punkmexic> anyone uses xwine_[{}
[10:16] <hasan__>           inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[10:16] <hasan__>           inet6 addr: fe80::2a0:ccff:fea2:ff5a/64 Scope:Link
[10:16] <hasan__>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[10:16] <hasan__>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[10:16] <hasan__> alright
[10:16] <Ademan> richie: :-p
[10:16] <zcat[1] > addr:192.168.0.2 is what you want
[10:16] <richiefrich> :)(
[10:16] <richiefrich> :(
[10:16] <Ademan> so anways
[10:16] <Ademan> go back to your browser
[10:16] <varsendagger> punkmexic, yeah it is good
[10:16] <Ademan> and type in 192.168.0.1
[10:16] <punkmexic> ????
[10:16] <Ademan> enter your uname and password that you figure out
[10:17] <Linad> can you please help
[10:17] <hasan__> alright
[10:17] <Ademan> go to virtual servers or port forwarding
[10:17] <Ademan> add
[10:17] <hasan__> did it- i am in my netgear login
[10:17] <hasan__> okay...i am at add
[10:17] <Linad> got the following message dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:17] <Ademan> the port you want is 80
[10:17] <Ademan> the IP is the 192.168.0.2
[10:17] <Ademan> protocol is TCP
[10:18] <Ademan> you might as well give it the service name "http"
[10:18] <Linad> can you help
[10:18] <lawton> re
[10:18] <Mahmoud85> Linad, did you try to run this command to correct the problem ?
[10:18] <lawton> richiefrich: http://pastebin.com/724182
[10:19] <Linad> what command
[10:19] <Mahmoud85> Linad, the one it gave you .. 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:20] <Ademan> lol
[10:20] <Ademan> nevermind following directions
[10:20] <hasan> back
[10:20] <hasan> wow
[10:20] <Ademan> hasan: did you add it correctly?
[10:20] <Linad> yes  iItried but did't work
[10:20] <hasan> yes i think so
[10:20] <Ademan> and hasan: every time you modify router settings you'll probably drop all your connections
[10:20] <hasan> lol...yeah i noticed
[10:20] <Ademan> :-)
[10:20] <richiefrich> lawton, what monitor u have
[10:20] <Ademan> anyways
[10:20] <hasan> :)
[10:20] <hasan> so now how do i access this webpage
[10:21] <richiefrich> lawton, and why u on depth 16 ? and not 24?
[10:21] <Ademan> now you SHOULD be able to enter your global IP (the one you might get from some site that "detects your IP") into your browser bar
[10:21] <blind> hm.
[10:21] <Mahmoud85> Linad, R U sure U added 'sudo' at the start ? ' sudo dpkg --configure -a '
[10:21] <Linad> yes I did
[10:21] <richiefrich> hasan,  http://localhost   <-- if u have apache then thats yours
[10:21] <Ademan> hasan: /msg Ademan (your global IP)
[10:21] <Ademan> richiefrich: it already works locally
[10:21] <Ademan> he wants to see if other people can connect
[10:21] <richiefrich> Ademan, ahh
[10:21] <lawton> re
[10:21] <hasan> connection refused
[10:22] <hasan> ...
[10:22] <Ademan> still...
[10:22] <lawton> richiefrich: dell 2007fp
[10:22] <hasan> when attempting to contact (my ip)
[10:22] <richiefrich> Ademan, whats the IP
[10:22] <Ademan> do you need anything other than port 80 for http?
[10:22] <lawton> richiefrich: i thought depth 16 might have fixed it... it didn't
[10:22] <Mahmoud85> Linad, what did you try to install to get this message?
[10:22] <Ademan> richiefrich: he didnt pm me it haha, hasan, what's your IP (its ok we're friends now haha)
[10:22] <hasan> 68.37.133.175
[10:23] <Linad> Thanks Mahmoud 85 forgot the sudo Now it works
[10:23] <Ademan> hasan: worked for me
[10:23] <lawton> richiefrich: how can i get it to run at 1600x1200 @ 60?
[10:23] <Ademan> it swore at me :-)
[10:23] <Mahmoud85> Linad, :)
[10:23] <hasan> umm
[10:24] <lawton> i'm pretty sure it's just selecting the wrong refresh
[10:24] <hasan> what did it say?
[10:24] <hasan> the f word?
[10:24] <richiefrich> hasan, yhes
[10:24] <hasan> lol
[10:24] <hasan> nice
[10:24] <Ademan> yep
[10:24] <hasan> what do i type into my browser
[10:24] <Ademan> just "68.37.133.175"
[10:24] <hasan> http://my ip?
[10:24] <Ademan> you dont really need the http:// its assumed usually
[10:25] <hasan> i still don't get it
[10:25] <hasan> it says connection was refused
[10:25] <richiefrich> hasan,  OR -->  http://localhost
[10:25] <Ademan> that's really really wierd
[10:25] <richiefrich> same thing
[10:25] <zcat[1] > most routers get confused if you try to connect to your outside IP from inside..
[10:25] <Ademan> it works for us but not you
[10:25] <Ademan> zcat[1] : mine's never complained about it
[10:25] <Ademan> but anyways hasan
[10:25] <richiefrich> Ademan, ask him is he putting the ""
[10:25] <Ademan> the next step is to get a domain name
[10:25] <hasan> i am not putting in ""
[10:25] <zcat[1] > mine ends up giving me the router config.. (the dlink does.. never tried on the cisco)
[10:25] <Ademan> http://www.dyndns.com
[10:25] <richiefrich> ok
[10:26] <Ademan> so you can have something human readable instead of a bunch of numbers
[10:26] <hasan> haha, nice
[10:26] <hasan> i think i might get one next week
[10:26] <hasan> dude...thank you so much
[10:26] <Ademan> np haha
[10:27] <hasan> thank your richie
[10:27] <hasan> for your help too
[10:28] <Ademan> hasan: just stick in #ubuntu and help people when they ask
[10:28] <Ademan> :-)
[10:28] <hasan> :) will do but i am truly a novice
[10:28] <hasan> i learned a lot today
[10:28] <Ademan> you'll learn fast
[10:28] <Ademan> yeah
[10:28] <Ademan> i was onyl asking questiosn for the first 2 weeks
[10:28] <Ademan> lol
[10:29] <hasan> lol
[10:29] <Ademan> well dapper is almost done installing
[10:29] <richiefrich> lawton, change it to 24  and what do u want ?   screen size ?
[10:29] <Ademan> we'll see if it won't blow up on my laptop too
[10:30] <almenfors> morning ppl. here i am..and i need help again =)
[10:30] <zcat[1] > configure: error: zm requires LWP::UserAgent
[10:30] <Ademan> my laptop has been a 15 pound (yeah its heavy) paperweight for the past month and a half because no version of linux (save knoppix LIVE) will friggin run on it
[10:30] <zcat[1] > libcrypt-ssleay-perl is already the newest version.
[10:31] <zcat[1] > I'm stuck!
[10:31] <hasan> weird
[10:31] <zcat[1] > anyone know what other package would provide LWP::UserAgent ?
[10:31] <hasan> my windows computer is not reading the ip file as well
[10:31] <hasan> yet u guys can see it
[10:31] <almenfors> i could use some help with my netgear wg311v3. cant get it to work on my server. =(    total noob here
[10:31] <shakazuzu> hi, how can i setup my locale-settings ?
[10:32] <Ademan> hasan: well if its behind the same router thats why
[10:32] <Mahmoud85> hasan go to http://192.168.0.2
[10:32] <zcat[1] > hasan ifconfig eth0:1 eith your outside Ip address perhaps?
[10:33] <hasan> what do you mean zcat?
[10:33] <hasan> my Bcast?
[10:33] <Ademan> hasan
[10:33] <ghozzt> anyone here that has some experience with smart card readers in ubuntu?
[10:33] <Ademan> if you want to preview your site just use localhost
[10:34] <Ademan> you know other people can view your site
[10:34] <Ademan> so you're good
[10:34] <Ademan> localhost will give you the same stuff they're seeing
[10:34] <tHeDvL> hi everybody
[10:34] <tHeDvL> im made auto-burn CD
[10:34] <tHeDvL> for ubuntu installation
[10:34] <tHeDvL> i booting from the CD
[10:34] <tHeDvL> and it show me ubuntu install
[10:34] <Mahmoud85> ademan : that's if the http server is on the same computer but is trying to access from another (windows computer)
[10:34] <hastesaver> !enter
[10:34] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:34] <tHeDvL> in the choose language menu
[10:34] <tHeDvL> it hung
[10:34] <Ademan> Mahmoud85: oh true
[10:35] <tHeDvL> the keyboard closed
[10:35] <richiefrich> tHeDvL, retry
[10:35] <tHeDvL> i can't choose the language
[10:35] <Ademan> then hasan: you shoudl be able to use your local IP
[10:35] <richiefrich> tHeDvL, retry
[10:35] <tHeDvL> so what is the problem?
[10:35] <Ademan> (192.168.0.2)
[10:35] <tHeDvL> retry what?
[10:35] <kane777> How can I repartition my hard drive?? I have too much set to swap and too few for /
[10:35] <richiefrich> reboot
[10:35] <tHeDvL> i reboot
[10:35] <richiefrich> try again , or itmmight be a bad burn
[10:35] <tHeDvL> but same problem
[10:35] <zcat[1] > tHeDvL: Go into bios and turn on legacy USB setting
[10:36] <tHeDvL> maybe bad burn?
[10:36] <tHeDvL> ok i will try
[10:36] <tHeDvL> thanks everybody
[10:36] <richiefrich> np
[10:36] <Mahmoud85> Num Lock LED is reversed, On : Led OFF  .. Anyone can help?
[10:37] <Ademan> hrm its 130
[10:37] <Ademan> i'm starting to get tired
[10:37] <hasan> i love linux....
[10:37] <Ademan> i love linux... except on my laptop
[10:37] <Ademan> lol
[10:38] <hasan> haha
[10:38] <hasan> haha
[10:38] <cheziyi> i love linux on my laptop
[10:38] <richiefrich> lamer007, :)
[10:38] <Ademan> cheziyi: any trouble setting it up?
[10:38] <cheziyi> not really
[10:38] <hasan> right now i am running linux on a crappy 633 mmhz celeron....and it is going pretty fast
[10:39] <cheziyi> except acer's stupid smart battery system
[10:40] <cheziyi> i am waiting for shipit for drapper drake....
[10:40] <Ademan> cheziriyi: mine's given me hell, its been a month and a half and my laptop has remained a paperweight
[10:40] <_yo_sidny4> how do I switch from GNOME to KDE in breezy badger?
[10:40] <cheziyi> haha
[10:41] <Ademan> _yo_sidny4: you dont, screw KDE :-)
[10:41] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, what do u use to start X ?
[10:41] <cheziyi> _yo_sidny4:y use kde? XD
[10:41] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, do u use startx
[10:41] <_yo_sidny4> no
[10:41] <richiefrich> then ?
[10:41] <Ademan> theres a "kubunu" distrobution...
[10:41] <_yo_sidny4> it goes to the graphical login right away
[10:41] <kane777> How can I repartition my hard drive?? I have too much set to swap and too few for / is there a way without reinstalling just to shrink down swap partition to let's say 512 MB???
[10:41] <crazy_penguin> 'morning all
[10:42] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, whats the login manager?
[10:42] <Ademan> kane777: gparted LiveCD
[10:42] <cheziyi> kane777: best way is to reformat... if you don't mind the trouble
[10:42] <Ademan> kane777: gparted is beautiful, i really reccomend it, i used it to fix the EXACT same problem
[10:42] <_yo_sidny4> I'm not sure what the login manager is
[10:42] <Ademan> its braindead easy to use, and graphical
[10:43] <kane777> Ademan, thank you... I'll try it...
[10:43] <hasan> ademan u rock
[10:43] <Ademan> hahah thanks hasan
[10:43] <Ademan> you havin fun with your server?
[10:43] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, most have options to choise what u want, did u install KDE ?
[10:44] <cheziyi> richifrich: the breexy cd "easy" installatin is automatic
[10:44] <punkmexic> ya volvi
[10:44] <_yo_sidny4> yeah, I went into synaptic package manager, searched for KDE and installed it
[10:44] <richiefrich> cheziyi, it never did
[10:45] <ghozzt> how to I create the /dev/ttyUSB0 device?
[10:45] <cheziyi> richiefrich: opps sry i mis-read your statement
[10:46] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, then it should be in your login manager
[10:46] <richiefrich> cheziyi, np, i was gonna say then why have a kubuntu one  :)
[10:47] <hastesaver> _yo_sidny4, have you installed KDE first? (the package kubuntu-desktop)
[10:48] <_yo_sidny4> not kubuntu-desktop
[10:48] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, install kdm and change it when it boots to load that
[10:48] <_yo_sidny4> I searched for KDE
[10:48] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, i dont think u need kubuntu-desktop
[10:48] <OlliK> apt-cache search kde
[10:48] <zcat[1] > I'd suggest installing kubuntu-desktop..
[10:49] <OlliK> you don't need kubuntu-desktop
[10:49] <zcat[1] > ther are lots of other kde things that are not part of the core KDE package
[10:49] <hasan> yeah dude, i went to the bathroom for a min but yeah
[10:49] <hastesaver> _yo_sidny4, if you want KDE, the package to install is kubuntu-desktop
[10:49] <zcat[1] > like kdm..
[10:49] <hasan> right now 68.37.133.175...it says this
[10:50] <richiefrich> i dont understand the kubuntu-desktop taht
[10:50] <hasan> bsaically i thank u and richie on it
[10:50] <hasan> basically*
[10:50] <richiefrich> thats an  kubuntu packacge, not needed for kde
[10:50] <hastesaver> richiefrich, how would kdm help? I can choose either Gnome or KDE, irrespective of whether I'm using gdm or kdm
[10:50] <richiefrich> hasan, np
[10:51] <_yo_sidny4> I'm not finding kdm or kubuntu-desktop in synaptic
[10:51] <hastesaver> !info kubuntu-desktop
[10:51] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[10:51] <cheziyi> hastesaver, the thing about kdm and gdm is that whether you can shut down from your login
[10:51] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, u need the repositorys
[10:51] <richiefrich> hastesaver, well if he doesnt have gdm configured kde wont show up
[10:52] <hastesaver> cheziyi, yeah, so what *dm you use has nothing do with whether you have KDE or not. That's what I'm saying too...
[10:52] <pc> holaaaaaaaa
[10:52] <pc> hay alguien que hable en espaol
[10:52] <_yo_sidny4> ok
[10:52] <OlliK> hola, english only here PC
[10:52] <cheziyi> hastesaver: ah i get your point
[10:52] <hastesaver> richiefrich, gdm didn't need any configuration, kde showed up by itself after it (and I mean kubuntu-desktop) was installed
[10:52] <zcat[1] > !es
[10:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:52] <_yo_sidny4> yeah, all I have is CD Ubuntu 5.10
[10:53] <richiefrich> hastesaver, maybe thats what kubuntu-desktop does but he can had confure it
[10:53] <cheziyi> _yo_sidny4, you can get from apt-get
[10:53] <cheziyi> (i think)
[10:54] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, u need the repositorys
[10:54] <richiefrich> from kubuntu
[10:54] <zcat[1] > !source-o-matic
[10:54] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:54] <richiefrich> zcat[1] , :)
[10:55] <zcat[1] > although all ou really need to do is (in synaptic) remove the CD and add the four main repos and then reload.
[10:55] <phenom> Hello, can someone help me get ProQuake working under Ubuntu please?
[10:55] <hastesaver> richiefrich, whatever. All I know is that the packages to install if you want Gnome,KDE, or XFCE and you don't have them, are ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop respectively
[10:55] <zcat[1] > hastesaver: yes, but not if the only thing in your sources.list is still the install CD..
[10:55] <_yo_sidny4> I added 2 repositories that were already there under the add list, updates and security updates
[10:55] <richiefrich> hastesaver, or hand configure, if u dont want them
[10:55] <zcat[1] > _yo_sidny4: add all four
[10:56] <twb> Can I download a dapper beta install CD from somewhere?
[10:56] <cheziyi> phenom, wat problems are you experiencing?
[10:56] <hastesaver> richiefrich, sure. If you want to go the hand-configure way, you can also get the .tar.gz files and compile them yourself :p
[10:56] <zcat[1] > _yo_sidny4: and remove the CD.. it tends to break things like easyubuntu if you decide to use it later
[10:56] <_yo_sidny4> there were only 3 in the list, one was the CD, another updates, and the last one security updates
[10:57] <lawton> argh
[10:57] <zcat[1] > there should be four checkboxes.. tick universe and multiverse
[10:57] <_yo_sidny4> ok
[10:57] <zcat[1] > ahh sorry.. click "add"
[10:57] <richiefrich> hastesaver, my point is you dont need them, I hand configure, I'm not trying to argue :)
[10:57] <phenom> cheziyi, I cd to my Quake dir and use ./sqpro to start quake and it responds with "phenom@UltraBeast:~/Desktop/My Documents/quake$ ./sqpro
[10:57] <phenom> ./sqpro: error while loading shared libraries: libvga.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:57] <phenom> "
[10:57] <zcat[1] > then you'll see the four checkboxes..
[10:58] <lawton> now X11 is running a 1600x1200 desktop at 1280x1024
[10:58] <lawton> how can i get X11 to configure properly?
[10:59] <cheziyi>  phenom: maybe your libvga.so.1 is missing?
[10:59] <zcat[1] > lawton: ctrl-alt-F1, log in, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:59] <phenom> cheziyi, Where could I get libvga.so.1 and will it mess up my current video settings?
[10:59] <hastesaver> richiefrich, I agree you don't need them, but the 'recommended' way (as also the easy way) is to get those huge -desktop packages :)
[10:59] <ckopn> how to change screen-login resolution on 1024-768 ?
[10:59] <_yo_sidny4> ok, it's downloading package info
[11:00] <lawton> zcat[1] : ah thanks!
[11:00] <cheziyi> phenom: this you gotta ask the more experienced users
[11:00] <phenom> hmm, ok
[11:00] <cheziyi> i'm still partly noob
[11:00] <phenom> #Quake is invite only or I would have asked there
[11:00] <richiefrich> hastesaver, im just not big on installing extra crapp i dont need, thats why i donty use kde , lots of  stuff there if u get it all
[11:00] <hastesaver> ckopn, did you look in Preferences -> Screen resolution?
[11:01] <zcat[1] > libsvga1 - console SVGA display libraries
[11:01] <ckopn> hastesaver, yes i mean resolution on logon screen , not workspace
[11:01] <hastesaver> phenom, "dpkg -S libvga.so.1" will give you the answer (libsvga1, as zcat[1]  said)
[11:02] <_yo_sidny4> ok, it's downloading kdm and kubuntu-desktop
[11:03] <phenom> hastesaver, I will have to close Gnome for that?
[11:03] <_yo_sidny4> after those download and install, just change that when I'm at the logon screen?
[11:03] <lawton> is it possible to tell X11 to only use 1600x1200 at 60hz?
[11:03] <hastesaver> phenom, no, just install that package (libsvga1) from Synaptic
[11:03] <zcat[1] > _yo_sidny4: after you reboot kdm will be your login screen ..
[11:03] <_yo_sidny4> ok
[11:04] <Jellman> lawton, what i did was edit the cof file
[11:04] <zcat[1] > I think your session will still be whatever you used last (which will be gnome) though
[11:04] <_yo_sidny4> yeah, then just change the session to KDE
[11:05] <lawton> Jellman: yeah i don't really understand how to edit it
[11:05] <zcat[1] > having both gnome and kde is a bit of a pain.. I'd have stuck with gnome.
[11:05] <Epic-> anyone running flux?
[11:05] <phenom> hastesaver, That seemed to work but now I have another error?
[11:06] <Jellman> emm, i cant exactly remeber, if you go in to the terminal and type sudo gedit /ect/X11/xorg.conf
[11:06] <phenom> hastesaver, Do you mind if I IM you the error?
[11:06] <Jellman> and edit all the rez perams to 1600 x w/e
[11:06] <zcat[1] > lawton: on the xorg-server config, just check 1600x1200 and uncheck all the others. On the next screen tell it (medium config) your monitor does 1600x1200 at 60hz and that's the mode it will use
[11:06] <watson540> having gnome and kde is cool, cuz you get to run the apps from both worlds :)
[11:06] <hastesaver> phenom, better to ask here, more people can help you (unless it's a long error message, in which case use pastebin)
[11:06] <watson540> although i hate gnome and like kde but dont use it
[11:06] <Epic-> Can anyone tell me how I should be able to select fluxbox? It is installed and .desktop was edited
[11:06] <lawton> zcat[1] : ah ok thanks
[11:07] <phenom> hastesaver, pastebin?
[11:07] <watson540> Epic-<-- usually you would edit yout ~/.xinitrc
[11:07] <lawton> zcat[1] : the configuration program dumped me to the commandline at the bitdepth selection menu
[11:07] <watson540> and put a line like 'exec fluxbox' in it
[11:07] <Epic-> no mention fo that in the wiki
[11:07] <Epic-> 5.04 here though
[11:07] <zcat[1] > oh crap. That's bad.
[11:07] <Jellman> has any one got ubuntu working on the new intel macs?
[11:07] <watson540> or it could be .xsession, depends on your distro i think
[11:07] <hastesaver> phenom, read the topic :) (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/)
[11:08] <Epic-> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox?highlight=%28fluxbox%29
[11:08] <lawton> it says xserver-xorg postinstall warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file; back in <snip>
[11:08] <Epic-> That's what I followed
[11:08] <zcat[1] > Oh.. ok.
[11:08] <zcat[1] > yeah, that's normal.. I thought it asked if you wanted to save it first and kinda warned you that you're finished before it quit.
[11:09] <Jellman> no one?
[11:09] <zcat[1] > Jellman: I got it working on my old G3 PPC mac.
[11:09] <lawton> zcat[1] :  yeah i thought it was supposed to ask me to save first
[11:09] <phenom> hastesaver, I have used Pastebin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14207
[11:09] <lawton> it just dumped to commandline, looks like it crashed sort of
[11:10] <Epic-> odd
[11:10] <zcat[1] > nah, should be OK
[11:10] <Jellman> yhe, i woudl imagen you just use the ppc build, ive got a new intel imac, i was wondering if any one has managed to get it to boot and work with x
[11:10] <Epic-> i installed it, had no trouble editing the file as per the wiki... go back to the file and it's gone
[11:11] <zcat[1] > for an intel mac you'd use the x86 build.. or do you mean for the G3 ?
[11:11] <hastesaver> phenom, oh, I know nothing of quake, ask others :)
[11:11] <phenom> hmm, ok
[11:11] <zcat[1] > beige g3's boot really weird. Getting ubuntu onto one takes skillz!!
[11:12] <cafuego> they're both evil and oldworld
[11:12] <Epic-> No help?
[11:12] <Jellman> the x86 build, iwould need, but i dont think theres any support for efi yet is there?
[11:12] <sybariten> most macs are really evil
[11:13] <hastesaver> phenom, maybe you should restart X and try again
[11:13] <lawton> macs aren't evil...
[11:13] <lawton> anyhow
[11:13] <lawton> i'd rather start macs vs pcs
[11:13] <spikeb> Jellman: dont need EFI support
[11:13] <spikeb> Jellman: apple introduced bios compatibility
[11:14] <Jellman> boot camp?
[11:14] <phenom> hastesaver, logout, then log in or kill X?
[11:14] <sybariten> lawton: start how ?
[11:14] <lawton> sybariten: nevermind
[11:14] <lawton> zcat[1] : argh i'm getting out of sync again :\
[11:15] <hastesaver> phenom, yes, log out, then kill X (ctrl-alt-backspace), login. You can also just reboot completely
[11:15] <watson540> Epic-<-- i told you larrady..edit ~/.xinitrc
[11:15] <zcat[1] > sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:15] <watson540> Epic-<-- and if you're totallly brainless install gdm or kdm and let it do your dirty work
[11:16] <phenom> hastesaver, How would I login as root? While installing Ubuntu it gave me no option to create a root account, only a normal user account
[11:16] <zcat[1] > !sudo
[11:16] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:16] <watson540> phenom<-- root is created automatically..or should be
[11:16] <watson540> it was on my box :)
[11:16] <watson540> root HAS to be there, ununtu just starts you off with a non standard password
[11:16] <cafuego> you don't log in as root, you don't need to. If you think you do, you are mistaken.
[11:16] <phenom> watson540, so root's usernams is root, but what about the password?
[11:17] <hastesaver> phenom, why do you want to login as root? Use sudo
[11:17] <daryl_> !mic
[11:17] <ubotu> daryl_: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:17] <watson540> phenom<-- ubuntu makes it up for you, you have to change it
[11:17] <cafuego> phenom: Log in as yourself, use sudo. Check the wiki page ubotu told you about.
[11:17] <daryl_> Could someone make a suggestion wher eto get help using a microphone?
[11:17] <watson540> phenom<-- i forget the details its been a while..its prolly on the wiki
[11:17] <hastesaver> daryl_, doesn't just plugging it in work? :)
[11:17] <watson540> phenom<-- log in as a superuser, then in your GUI go to the user editor an change roots pw that way
[11:17] <phenom> I can only se sudo commands in a terminal tho?
[11:18] <daryl_> hastesaver: if it did, i woudln't be bugging people
[11:18] <phenom> watson540, "superuser" is the account name?
[11:18] <cafuego> phenom: You cna run gksu for X stuff if you really need to, but you generally _really_ don't
[11:18] <watson540> phenom<-- no, a superuser IS the account that ubuntu DID let  you create during install :)
[11:18] <daryl_> anyone know a good way to test my microphone to see if its working?
[11:18] <lawton> overall i'm pretty impressed with ubuntu's hardware autodetection
[11:18] <lawton> except for this one area
[11:19] <hastesaver> daryl_, have you made sure the volume isn't turned down or something? Check the volume applet, and also the volume in whatever app you're trying to record. Sorry if this sounds stupid, but I once spent a whole day without realising my volume was off :)
[11:19] <watson540> ill get flamed for this but here goes..I run as root every single day for everyday things :)
[11:19] <zcat[1] > phenom: the admin tools un ubuntu will ask for your user password via gksudo and run as root..
[11:19] <watson540> and i never had a problem yet
[11:19] <hastesaver> watson540, yes, fine, but there's no *need* to enable the root account
[11:19] <watson540> of course to irc, i just login as a normal user in the terminal
[11:19] <watson540> hastesaver<-- agreed
[11:19] <sybariten> daryl_: _don't_ blow into it. thats hated among sound technicians, being the laymans way of testing it
[11:19] <zcat[1] > watson540: that's nice. I run as an ordinary user and have never had a problem either. Why take the extra risk?
[11:20] <hastesaver> watson540, and it's dangerous to recommend. People might start logging in as root and end up doing bad things to themselves :)
[11:20] <watson540> zcat[1] <-- i get sick of typing in sudo all the time, when i want something done i want to do it in as few steps as possible
[11:20] <daryl_> i decided to open the sound record, and try it.  its saying the oss is open by another application
[11:20] <watson540> hastesaver<-- oh dont get me wrong, i never said i reccommend it )
[11:20] <watson540> heh
[11:21] <watson540> dunno why i said it, for the conveersation value i guess
[11:21] <zcat[1] > what do you need to use sudo for ?
[11:21] <phenom> Ok I'm confused now about change the root's password, I'm in User and Groups window
[11:21] <watson540> phenom<-- then your close
[11:21] <Ng> phenom: did you read the wiki page?
[11:21] <Ng> phenom: it's all explained there
[11:21] <hastesaver> watson540, recommend == tell people about it. On this channel, you should always tell people to use sudo :) (I've enabled the root account too, BTW ;)
[11:21] <phenom> Wiki URL please
[11:22] <watson540> hastesaver<-- noted, i didnt realize people are such tools that they would follow some anonymous fool like me's word :)
[11:22] <zcat[1] > once your machine is set up you should need to use root very infrequently.. never for ordinary things like reading a CD anyhow..
[11:22] <Ng> !tell phenom about sudo
[11:22] <watson540> i just hate sudo'ing all the time :9 i figger if i can run as 'root' in windows for yrs and not kill my puter i shopuld be ok in linux :) (disclaimer: this is only my opinion , and im a nobody_
[11:23] <Ng> I think this discussion about personal root preferences has wandered into #ubuntu-offtopic realms ;)
[11:23] <watson540> agreed
[11:25] <watson540> didnt mean to kill the convo guys
[11:28] <bl4ckY> hi
[11:29] <nuxien> hello
[11:30] <nuxien> i want to know the pass root on a live-cd please
[11:30] <vitry> ubuntu
[11:30] <cafuego> !tell nuxien -about sudo
[11:31] <lawton> okay i give up
[11:31] <lawton> stuck at 1280x1024 for now
[11:31] <lawton> maybe installing all the updates will help
[11:31] <zcat[1] > lawton: perhaps your monitor just can't do 1600x1200 ?
[11:31] <lawton> zcat[1] : it does it fine with windows
[11:31] <lawton> or with my mac
[11:32] <lawton> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2007FP/en/about.htm
[11:32] <Ng> lawton: does /var/log/Xorg.0.log list any reasons why it didn't choose a 1600x1200 mode?
[11:32] <slackern> i tried getting the same resolutions i use in windows then the ati driver all of a sudden changed from PCI:2:0:0 to PCI:2:0:1 :)
[11:32] <lawton> Ng, hrm i will check
[11:32] <zcat[1] > what video card? nvidias suck at detecting the monitor modes..
[11:33] <hasan> wow....linux has a free online monopoly game called The Atlantic Board Game
[11:33] <lawton> my monitor's spec page says "Vertical scan range56 Hz to 76 Hz, exception 1600 x 1200 at 60 Hz only"
[11:33] <lawton> zcat[1] : intel gma 950
[11:33] <slackern> argh 60hz *carves out eyes with a spoon*
[11:33] <Ng> zcat[1] : my nvidia cards have always seen monitors just fine thanks :)
[11:33] <Ng> with DCC or EDID
[11:33] <Ng> slackern: it's a flat panel, refresh is largely irrelevant
[11:33] <lawton> does the "exception 1600 x 1200 at 60 Hz only" confuse ubuntu?
[11:33] <lawton> slackern: 60hz on an LCD ain't so bad
[11:34] <lawton> 60hz on a CRT, no way
[11:34] <slackern> Ng: oh thought it was crt
[11:34] <zcat[1] > comment out "Option DPMS" in your xorg.conf.. the monitor might be reporting a refresh rate it can't actually do..
[11:34] <zcat[1] > or the video card might be confued
[11:34] <lawton> hrm
[11:35] <variant> whats a really cool app that i can install on ubuntu? im just a bit bored right now
[11:35] <Ng> zcat[1] : DPMS is for power control, do you mean DDC?
[11:35] <zcat[1] > that will force xorg to try the settings you told it to try..
[11:35] <lawton> Ng: the log file says "Not using build-in mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size)
[11:35] <RandolphCarter> variant: eboard and gnuchess :)
[11:35] <lawton> does that mean ubuntu thinks i don't have enough video memory?
[11:35] <RandolphCarter> lawton: virtual size?  could you paste your xorg.conf to the pasteboard?
[11:36] <daryl_> I'm using the sound recorder.  I press the record button, and talk.  I then press the stop button.  I then press the start button, to play back what I recorded.  nothing is happening.  I think somehow my soundcard input for microphone isn't setup right.  anyone able to help?
[11:36] <zcat[1] > Ng: it is? I always thought that option was about the monitor reporting it's own refresh rates..
[11:37] <lawton> RandolphCarter: coming up...
[11:37] <cappiz> a friend forgot to do a apt-get dist-upgrade after he change the sources list.... now he gets pernel error all the time with apt-get install. apt-get -f install doesnt work. is there a way to fix this?
[11:37] <Ng> zcat[1] : afaik it's DDC and/or EDID that do that, DPMS is used to put the monitor into standby/suspend modes to save power
[11:37] <zcat[1] > daryl_: open up kmix (doubleclick the little speaker on the menubar) and check that mic is on as a recording source
[11:37] <cappiz> -pernel*
[11:38] <daryl_> zcat!!! woot : ) thank you man,  now i cna't hardly hear what i'm saying at all
[11:39] <lawton> RandolphCarter: http://pastebin.com/724255
[11:40] <daryl_> zcat: i turned the capture microphone allt he way up
[11:41] <lawton> RandolphCarter: also, http://pastebin.com/724261
[11:41] <lawton> for the logfile errors
[11:41] <zcat[1] > daryl_: there should be a mic and a speaker icon at the bottom of each slider.. the mic sets if it's being used for recording and the speaker if the source is passed through to the output.. if you get feedback turn the output one off..
[11:43] <daryl_> zcat: no feedback.  however, i can't hardly hear the playback.  does that make sense?  how do i boost the volume more?
[11:44] <daryl_> i found it
[11:45] <daryl_> zcat i found it. i had to go to preferences
[11:45] <daryl_> and add capture
[11:45] <daryl_> then crank up the capture
[11:47] <almenfors> guys i need help here. i found a post on the webb about getting my wireless netgear to work with ndiswrapper. and ive followed it step by step. but i cant get it to work. have i missed anything?
[11:47] <zcat[1] > almenfors: you missed the part where ndiswrappers sucks..
[11:48] <Assassin5> almenfors, why not just use the madwifi drivers. i use them on my netgear
[11:48] <lawton>  hrm, how do i shutdown the x server manually?
[11:48] <lawton> i'm trying to restart it from one of the other terminals
[11:48] <Assassin5> and I agree. ndiswrapper does suck
[11:48] <zcat[1] > lawton: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:49] <lawton> zcat[1] : ah thanks
[11:49] <zcat[1] > dammit, my cat just 'playfully' ripped half my face off. little shit!
[11:50] <Hajuu> zcat[1] : rape it
[11:50] <Hajuu> have your way with that depraved little cat
[11:51] <zcat[1] > gonna trim the little bastard's claws .. brb..
[11:53] <RandolphCarter> lawton: sorry about that, boss called
[11:53] <RandolphCarter> lawton: are you using a PCI graphics card? :/
[11:55] <lawton> RandolphCarter: no, it's intel integrated gma 950
[11:56] <lawton> can i screw up my monitor with the wrong refresh combination btw?
[11:56] <almenfors> humm..whats "madwifi" ?
[11:58] <lawton> are there any other x.org server modules i should load by default besides the regular ones?
[11:58] <valehru> how can i re-install the mbr for grub as my windows re-install wiped it out
[11:58] <Kyl1> hi all, is there a version of ubuntu that can run on 16MB of ram, 2GB hard drive and 150MHz processor?
[11:58] <l_> probably
[11:59] <watson540> valehru<-- grub-install /dev/hda
[11:59] <valehru> where hda is the main disk?
[11:59] <watson540> Kyl1<-- dont know about a version of ubuntu but surely one of the million linux distros has you covered
[11:59] <watson540> valehru<-- correct
[12:00] <watson540> Kyl1<-- if you pick the right packages im sure you could get ubuntu installed
[12:00] <valehru> hang on.... /dev/sda/ is my main disk
[12:00] <valehru> I have 2 partitions
[12:00] <valehru> sda1 and sda2
[12:00] <Kyl1> watson540: could it be possible for graphical
[12:00] <valehru> which to I point it to..
[12:00] <watson540> valehru<-- thats ok, as long as thats the primary master, that your computer boots off of
[12:01] <watson540> Kyl1<-- probably if you ran a smaller window manager instead of kde or gnome
[12:01] <snail> Kyl1: you want dsl. damn small linux
[12:01] <dfgas> Kyl1, text verson
[12:01] <snail> Kyl1: google for it, there are a hundred variants
[12:01] <lawton> dang
[12:01] <valehru> xfs_freeze: specified file ["/boot/grub"]  is not on an XFS filesystem
[12:01] <lawton> everything works so long as i delete 1600x1200 from the selection
[12:02] <watson540> valehru<-- well did you type grub-install /dev/sda?
[12:02] <valehru> ok...how do I get back to bash from windows...use the ubuntu cd to repaid it..
[12:02] <valehru> yes
[12:02] <valehru> repaid = repaid <<
[12:03] <watson540> valehru<-- it looks like your boot partition is messed, but you should be able to boot the ubuntu live cd or somee equivalant
[12:03] <watson540> valehru<-- you also might try apt-get remove grub then apt-get install grub
[12:03] <watson540> to se if apt will automatically make grub install itself
[12:04] <watson540> i wuoold reccommend lilo, but im not sure ubuntu likes it too much as  i had probs installing it
[12:04] <SheriF_WorK> i have a fast question how to take screenshots for the ubuntu installer while i'm working on the installaing
[12:04] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- only way i can think of is to run the installer through vmware
[12:05] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: i'm sure tehre is a short cut like F2 or something mandriva can make screenshot with F2
[12:05] <kane777> anybody knows of good text editor for programming?? (with highlighted syntax and some other functions that are useful for programmers)
[12:05] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: so i think ubuntu may be have somehting like that i'm digging into online
[12:05] <hastesaver> SheriF_WorK, where would the image be stored?
[12:05] <hastesaver> kane777, emacs, vim, ...
[12:05] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- yes, iim sure there is a framebuffer SS taker somehwere, but the question is how do you use it when your system isnt even installed yet?
[12:05] <Ng> kane777: gedit can do syntax highlighting, or there's anjuta if you want a fuller development studio
[12:05] <hastesaver> !editor
[12:05] <ubotu> it has been said that editor is ed, vim, nano, emacs, gedit, kate, bluefish, gvim, pida, eclipse, nvu, quanta
[12:06] <McNutella> Are there any other file managers I can use instead of the slowish default one ?
[12:06] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: but i think u already have mnt point and things extaracted in ur harddisk ?
[12:06] <almenfors> hum.. the server puts the nic as active but i cant surf/ping my router..
[12:06] <watson540> hastesaver<-- how come midnight commander isnt listed??? its my favorite
[12:06] <njdavid> Anyone here play BF1942?
[12:06] <chamo> how can I have better battery support for my laptop ?
[12:06] <hastesaver> watson540, it's an editor? I thought it's a file manager or something like that...
[12:06] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- i dunno, you have your work cut out, good question
[12:06] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: hastesaver when u install ubuntu ALT +F2 u'll find console and u find some stuff i nur harddisk already for extracting and installing.
[12:06] <watson540> hastesaver<-- it comes with a binary called 'mcedit' :)
[12:07] <watson540> you can also call the binary thru MC though
[12:07] <SheriF_WorK> kane777: jedit also
[12:07] <McNutella> !filemanager
[12:07] <ubotu> McNutella: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:07] <McNutella> hmmm
[12:07] <McNutella> nothing
[12:07] <watson540> hastesaver<-- mcedit remonds me a lot of the old DOS 'edit' binary :)
[12:07] <Ng> McNutella: try rox-filer
[12:07] <hastesaver> SheriF_WorK, When Ubuntu isn't even installed yet, how do you hope to take screenshots and use them?
[12:07] <kane777> THX all... I'll try anjuta...
[12:07] <McNutella> Ng: whats that like to install ?
[12:08] <watson540> it is a cool file manager though you're right..i used to love using it too
[12:08] <SheriF_WorK> hastesaver: i want to have them sure there is away i'll look for it and let u know guys :-) mandriva done it i'm sure debian has something like that
[12:08] <watson540> before i knew how to work my way around a shell that is
[12:08] <Ng> McNutella: it's available from the regular repositories, so you can install it with apt-get or synaptic
[12:08] <watson540> but now i use mcedit for text editing, i guess vi would be my next choice but those are the ony two i took the time to figure out
[12:08] <McNutella> ng and does this make the ubuntu default manager disable ?
[12:09] <hastesaver> SheriF_WorK, how did it work in Mandriva? Where were the screenshots of the installation stored?
[12:10] <watson540> good question
[12:10] <SheriF_WorK> hastesaver: u click F2 and it stores in somewhere like /usr/share/somehting but mandriva tells u where
[12:10] <watson540> 'click f2' ROFL can you see the paradox?/
[12:10] <hastesaver> SheriF_WorK, this must be *after* the installation, right?
[12:10] <watson540> i know what you mean, but it was funny :)
[12:11] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- like i said the only way i ever heard of such a thing is to run install through vmware
[12:11] <watson540> is there a frambuffer SS snapper out there??
[12:12] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: hastesaver ok 1 min i'm looking for the option in mandriva and the location
[12:12] <watson540> i want to figure out how to put a picture on my framebuffered console
[12:12] <watson540> i've seen it before..
[12:13] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: wann see my old one :P?
[12:13] <McNutella> anyway to turn off the minimize animations ?
[12:13] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: eglug.org/node/80  but it's really old distro
[12:13] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- no, tell me how you did it :)..i know ubuntu does it, thats how 'usplash' works
[12:14] <watson540> the splash screen you see on boot
[12:14] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: i done it by making a bootsplash them
[12:14] <vladuz976> other than xdvi is there something to view dvi files?
[12:14] <watson540> i think it involves making a certain size bmp and all that though
[12:14] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: yes
[12:14] <watson540> :(
[12:14] <watson540> i gotta go google on how to set up openssh. i installed it but it has no man page!
[12:14] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: saw it ?
[12:14] <watson540> hold on a sec..
[12:14] <huecijako> hola
[12:14] <watson540> iill look :)
[12:15] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: what u want about ssh ?
[12:15] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- just wanting to set it up so i and a few friends can ssh into my box
[12:15] <huecijako> alguna putita
[12:15] <watson540> huecijako<-- #ubuntu-es
[12:15] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: apt-get openssh-server
[12:15] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: apt-get install openssh-server
[12:15] <variant> watson540: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[12:15] <SheriF_WorK> yes and thats all ;-) then ppl ssh user@urip
[12:16] <variant> watson then on the remote box do ssh user@host
[12:16] <freakabcd> hi all
[12:16] <freakabcd> i really need help with xorg on breezy
[12:16] <watson540> variant<-- sweeet...does apt auto install it in my startup scripts then?/ crontab i think is the name im looking for
[12:16] <freakabcd> i updated the my install to latest breezy packages and now X refuses to come up.
[12:16] <Ng> McNutella: no, you'll need to tell nautilus not to draw your desktop, that will stop it from loading, then you can just launch rox from a menu/toolbar/desktop launcher
[12:16] <variant> watson540: yes, its sets up the init script
[12:16] <freakabcd> and strangely enough not even console shows up!
[12:17] <variant> watson540: and installing it should generate all the host keys etc automatically
[12:17] <freakabcd> i have to ssh from another machine in order to do anything on this affected machine!
[12:17] <freakabcd> it boots to a bluish green coloured screen
[12:17] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- ii saw it..pretty sweet..although im not much for mandiva and junk :)
[12:17] <freakabcd> and no cursor or anything :(
[12:17] <watson540> goin to test this ssh thng thanks for the suggestions
[12:17] <McNutella> Ng: I take it the cmd is ROX ?
[12:17] <McNutella> yeah
[12:18] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: now i'm using ubuntu so thats old ;-)
[12:18] <watson540> whoah
[12:18] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: and no time for messing around
[12:18] <watson540> the bastitch failes to start!!
[12:18] <Blippe> ubotu pipe?
[12:18] <ubotu> methinks pipe is a | often used in bash
[12:18] <watson540> i knew ssh wouldnt be too easy..too good to be true
[12:19] <MrRio> watson540: ssh is really easy
[12:19] <watson540> maybe it failed because it was already initialized
[12:19] <watson540> cause openssh-server was already on my box, so that makes sense..doesnt it?
[12:19] <Blippe> ssh on ubotu is easy as shit
[12:20] <watson540> hrm i need to test it locally..is there a way?
[12:20] <hastesaver> watson540, apt-get install openssh-server was all I had to do :)
[12:20] <variant> watson540: ssh user@localhost
[12:20] <hastesaver> watson540, BTW, I had problems -- I couldn't ssh from my own computer, but I could ssh from outside... I don't remember how I finally fixed that
[12:20] <MrRio> watson540: ssh yourname@localhost
[12:20] <MrRio> watson540, then type your password
[12:20] <watson540> hastesaver<-- yeah, i didi that :)..it was already installed.went to initalize it and it 'failed' so im thinking its because it was probably already running ?
[12:21] <Blippe> MrRio, or even easier ssh localhost
[12:21] <watson540> yah it works :)
[12:21] <MrRio> Blippe: lol, indeed
[12:21] <variant> watson540: you might need to reinstall it to generate the host keys (easy way) or use ssh-keygen to make them
[12:21] <variant> watson540: nm that then if it works :)_
[12:21] <watson540> it worked it let me login :)
[12:21] <variant> good
[12:21] <watson540> now..someone told me it was possible through iptables to set a static ip..
[12:22] <variant> watson540: not really, if its an ip you get from your isp then its up to them
[12:22] <Blippe> normally it would be wise to change from port 22 to something else for the openssh deamn
[12:22] <watson540> variant<-- thats what i though
[12:22] <watson540> t
[12:22] <matt__> hey how am i able to put links to programs on my ubuntu application menu?
[12:22] <watson540> oh well im gonna install dynip then :)
[12:22] <variant> watson540: you can use a dynamic ip redirector
[12:22] <variant> watson540: exactly
[12:22] <ubuntu> hi
[12:23] <variant> Blippe: dont see what difference it makes.. seeing as a normal port scan will tell you what port its running on
[12:23] <variant> hi ubuntu
[12:23] <ubuntu> this is my first time on this chat
[12:23] <watson540> ubuwell then, we're in for a treat !
[12:23] <matt__> anyone?
[12:24] <variant> ubuntu: welcome
[12:24] <watson540> damn nick completion
[12:24] <ubuntu> thanks variant
[12:24] <variant> ubuntu: hope its usfull to you :P
[12:24] <Ng> matt__: check that "acme" is installed, it's a menu editor
[12:24] <Blippe> variant, since i changed to another port noone has tried passwords on my deamon
[12:25] <hastesaver> Blippe, how do you know when someone is trying?
[12:25] <freakabcd> Blippe, its not too difficult to identify the port ssh is running on
[12:25] <Blippe> hastesaver, ethereal
[12:25] <matt__> Ng: whats the package name for it? i just done apt-get install acme but it didnt work
[12:26] <freakabcd> lol, you use ethereal to check if someone is trying to connect via ssh?
[12:26] <Blippe> freakabcd, yeah, and most scriptkiddies are lazy
[12:26] <variant> Blippe: guess it could stop a few random attacks looking for weak password/username combos
[12:26] <freakabcd> aren;t the sshd logs a better option?
[12:26] <variant> Blippe: but if you have a good pass then it doesn matter
[12:26] <variant> tripwire is a good system
[12:26] <Ng> matt__: that's a good question, I'm not sure offhand because it's changed in dapper
[12:27] <Ng> matt__: perhaps try searching in synaptic for menu editor
[12:27] <ubuntu> ci sono italiani
[12:27] <Blippe> freakabcd, no, i used ethereal to see why my tftp and dhcp server fucked up every other restart for my diskless
[12:27] <freakabcd> heh, ok
[12:27] <variant> ubuntu: this is an english spoken channel
[12:27] <freakabcd> !it
[12:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:27] <Ng> !it
[12:27] <Ng> doh
[12:27] <variant> ubuntu: there is probably annother one for italian
[12:27] <matt__> ng: ok thanks
[12:28] <ghozzt> anyone here that has some experience with USB smart card readers under Ubuntu
[12:28] <badders> anyone know if its possible to stop avahi daemon using a network interface? i want to have it broadcast only eth0 not on eth1
[12:28] <test>  anybody can tell me how can I manage with http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5757/capture9dz.png ? thx
[12:28] <ubuntu> thanks ubotu,I must resolve some problems about vmware
[12:28] <hastesaver> where are the ssh logs?
[12:29] <ubuntu> when i resolve my problem i come back
[12:29] <buzze> hi
[12:29] <OlliK> hi
[12:29] <ubuntu> see you tomorrow
[12:29] <buzze> i have a question
[12:30] <ghozzt> hastesaver: which ssh logs? user login? daemon related?
[12:30] <Ng> hastesaver: /var/log/auth.log
[12:30] <hastesaver> ghozzt, all of them -- I can't find any
[12:30] <matt__> is utorrent aviable for linux yet?
[12:30] <buzze> where do i put a script that i wanted to start up at boot
[12:30] <almenfors> anyone experienced with netgear wg311v3? cant get it to work as its suggested on both ubuntu forum and another forum.
[12:31] <ompaul> ubuntu, ubotu is the channel bot :-)
[12:31] <ghozzt> hastesaver: for logins, do lastlog - all the rest: /var/log/syslog
[12:31] <hastesaver> Ng, Hmm, I see lots of people have been trying! What should I do about it?!
[12:32] <buzze> where do i ptu a script that i wanted to start up at boot
[12:32] <Ng> hastesaver: that's up to you - personally I just make sure that my passwords are strong and the system is up-to-date, but you can move it to another port or require ssh keys if you like
[12:32] <buzze> in rc.local ?
[12:32] <ghozzt> hastesaver: run sshd on another port eg 5050 and disable ssh root login
[12:32] <hastesaver> Ng, ok, so it's not a problem? The same user has been trying lots of random usernames :)
[12:33] <hastesaver> ghozzt, I've already disabled root login... how do I change the port?
[12:33] <watson540> matt__: i dunno , but 'rtorrent' is a good one
[12:33] <megaman123> anyone knows what this means: data.h:38: warning: 'class cSacnDir' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor ???
[12:33] <hastesaver> ghozzt, oh, /etc/ssh/sshd_config, fine
[12:34] <watson540> i love ssh, its so magical
[12:34] <hastesaver> How do I make it require ssh-keys?
[12:34] <sybariten> watson540: it is.
[12:34] <watson540>   :)
[12:34] <sybariten> until you get char encoding problems
[12:34] <buzze> where do i ptu a script that i wanted to start up at boot
[12:34] <watson540> sybariten<-- lol
[12:35] <buzze> in rc.local ?
[12:35] <buzze> i have dapper beta
[12:35] <watson540> you mean when the terminal shows you a bunch of seros instead of text?
[12:35] <watson540> zeros* too
[12:35] <buzze> why does nobody answer my question
[12:36] <watson540> buzze<-- why are you not paying us to do so?
[12:36] <watson540> buzze<-- there is a init editor around somewhere i forget the name
[12:36] <Blippe> buzze, you use kde or gnome?
[12:36] <sybariten> watson540: not necessarily zeroes
[12:36] <watson540> but it lets you edit what gets started at boot
[12:36] <megaman123> watson540: is that how it goes :)
[12:36] <Blippe> buzze and dapper is in #ubuntu+1
[12:36] <buzze> gnome
[12:36] <watson540> sybariten<-- yah usually its a block character i see :)
[12:36] <sybariten> watson540: it could be any kind of manure really, if you're trying to set up a Putty connection with some funky settings
[12:36] <Ng> buzze: the bootup process is a series of scripts in /etc/rc2.d/ so you can just drop something in there that starts with S and then a number
[12:36] <buzze> oh sorry didnt know
[12:36] <watson540> just didnt know the ascii code for it so i said zero
[12:36] <kane777> I have created on a hosting site a virtual server runing Debian... and I was wondering what are the ways to controll it?? Is ssh the only possibility??
[12:37] <buzze> thanks ng
[12:37] <Blippe> buzze there is a autostart application or something of the like in the preferences menu
[12:37] <watson540> sybariten<-- yah i had that problem when i accidentally removed all my x fonts before :)
[12:37] <sybariten> watson540: the thing is, character encoding and terminal representation (especially when using curses) is a whole scientific chapter of its own
[12:37] <ompaul> kane777, why not use Ubuntu, webmin but its not my preferred method ssh is ones friend
[12:37] <watson540> could only use one font and it was 8 point..gah
[12:37] <peetu> mm, does anyone here own an ati card an has got it working on ubuntu ?
[12:37] <watson540> peetu<-- lots of people do
[12:38] <ompaul> kane777, in fact even with dsl or broadband doing ssh -C username@domain yields more throughput
[12:38] <megaman123> how can i connect to network drive from console ??
[12:38] <peetu> I mean, i have drivers + stuff but still games lag a shitload
[12:38] <watson540> peetu<-- i run counterstrik 1.6 thru cedega with opengl enabled ina 1024.768 res. :)
[12:38] <kane777> ompaul, there was no option to have ubuntu... only debian, slackware or gentoo...
[12:38] <peetu> watson540 mm, i only have wine :s no money for cedega :<
[12:38] <ompaul> kane777, switch providers :)
[12:38] <watson540> peetu<-- just because you have the drivers installed doesnt neccessarily mean you have X configed to use them :0
[12:39] <peetu> mm
[12:39] <peetu> sec
[12:39] <kane777> ompaul, do you know of any free virtual server hosting??
[12:39] <watson540> peetu<-- what is the output of 'glxinfo'?
[12:39] <ompaul> kane777, no I pay for it :-)
[12:39] <watson540> peetu<-- if it tells you 'direct rendering = no' or anything says MESA then its not configged
[12:39] <ompaul> hole even
[12:40] <buzze> then for what are the dirs rc0.d, rc1.d,  rc3.d , rc4.d
[12:40] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: hastesaver : thats in mandriva " I will now just give some tips and explanations on what and how I do things, along with the screenshots I made during the install on desktop system neuchatel and my laptop (just hit F2 to make a screenshot, you can find them later in /root/DrakX-screenshots/). "
[12:40] <watson540> buzze<-- diff. stages of init
[12:40] <kane777> ompaul, well this one's free... I was just trying it... friend told me that I could make a tunnel and controle my home PC from anywhere....
[12:40] <hastesaver> SheriF_WorK, ok, nice. Make a feature request if it doesn't exist already :)
[12:40] <buzze> oh offcourse
[12:40] <watson540> kane777<-- you sure can :)
[12:40] <kane777> ompaul, just not sure how...
[12:40] <ompaul> buzze, 0 is shutdown 1 is single user
[12:40] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: hastesaver so now i'll check if it's not in ubuntu but i'm sure it has somehting like that ..
[12:40] <buzze> i know
[12:41] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- sweet
[12:41] <peetu> watson540:  now i configd x to use that fglx thingie :D
[12:41] <watson540> peetu<-- cool, did you use the 'fglrxconfig' script?
[12:41] <ompaul> kane777, look at freenx as one option or vlc as another
[12:41] <watson540> peetu<-- there is also a way to config it using dpkf but i dont remember exactly the commands
[12:41] <peetu> no, sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg
[12:41] <peetu> Why ?
[12:41] <watson540> peetu<-- yah, thats best :)
[12:41] <peetu> :)
[12:41] <ompaul> watson540, those arrows are not needed they are dragging my eyes to those lines :-)
[12:42] <peetu> Reboot, cya in a sec (maybe :D)
[12:42] <watson540> ompaul: my bad bro :), its this nick comletion thing i got going on, ill try and refrain it :)
[12:42] <watson540> restrain even
[12:42] <ompaul> watson540, any half reasonable irc client should highlight when the nick is used, :)
[12:42] <watson540> he rebooted lol
[12:43] <watson540> ompaul: im used to dealing with IRC noobs so it makes it easier on them and me :), i dont deal with them here but on another nwtowrk
[12:43] <ompaul> watson540, hopefully they are using reasonable clients
[12:44] <watson540> ompaul: haha, if you call mirc + laggy ass addons reasonable :)
[12:44] <watson540> sorry bout that cuss word guys, i forgot
[12:44] <ompaul> watson540, yes saying m*c is not good :)
[12:45] <watson540> ompaul: lol i meant the other cuss word :)
[12:45] <ompaul> so before we stray too far offtopic, whats next
[12:45] <watson540> yes..next please
[12:45] <freakabcd> next what? question?
[12:45] <ompaul> why not
[12:45] <watson540> ok
[12:45] <freakabcd> i have one: why the heck is my breezy screwed up after update last night :(
[12:46] <watson540> freakabcd: thats a broad uestion :)
[12:46] <freakabcd> it boots to a bluish/green screen
[12:46] <ompaul> freakabcd, define not working, and what did you update?
[12:46] <freakabcd> and no console nothing.
[12:46] <freakabcd> only way i can get to the machine is by ssh from another
[12:46] <watson540> freakabcd: sounds like your resolution is whacked
[12:46] <peetu> watson540, mm. I got the system up with fgl thing but still games lag like hell :<
[12:46] <freakabcd> watson540, no
[12:46] <Tinse> Hi.. Last night I had a crash and couldnt reboot, today there was no problem starting up.. BUT, now when I try to start up firefox, it says I allready have one running (Wich I dont)
[12:47] <freakabcd> i have reconfigured the damn thing 3 or 4 times alredy
[12:47] <watson540> peetu: which game?
[12:47] <peetu> wow :D
[12:47] <peetu> And tux kart
[12:47] <watson540> peetu: did you check glxinfo again and look for direct rendering = yes?
[12:47] <peetu> ehm
[12:47] <peetu> glxinfo ? :D
[12:47] <Ng> Tinse: in your home directory is a directory called .mozilla, in there is one called firefox and in that is one with a strange looking name (letters and numbers). That's your firefox profile - remove the file called "lock" from there
[12:47] <watson540> peetu: i noticed a magical command called 'renice' when it comes to lpaying huge games under wine/cedega
[12:48] <ompaul> freakabcd, please try this,  >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << and choose vesa as the card type, accept all others items as automatic
[12:48] <hastesaver> ok, I have a question -- why does Xchat's "Open in web browser" work fine (opens firefox) when Fx is running, but opens firefox.ubuntu (the old one, 1.08 or whatever) when it's not?
[12:48] <peetu> Direct rendering = no
[12:48] <peetu> :S
[12:48] <freakabcd> ompaul, let me try it now
[12:48] <ompaul> freakabcd, what kind of machine is it (cos that don't work with PPC)
[12:48] <watson540> peetu: then your still not running the fglrz driver :(
[12:48] <Khamael> my password doesn`t seem to work.How do I reset it?
[12:48] <peetu> mm, how do i run it! :D
[12:49] <freakabcd> ompaul, pentium-m, its a laptop, i810
[12:49] <freakabcd> it was working beautifully even with xinerama and all
[12:49] <Tinse> Ng, ok I found it but Nautilus crashed .... dunno what's wrong here but everything seems messed up :(
[12:49] <peetu> !ati
[12:49] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:49] <screamz> Khamael: boot into recovery mode, if you get the # promt, try passwd or if you don t have a user, try adduser
[12:49] <watson540> peetu: also when you DO get DRI running, after you start WOW issue this command - renice 19 -p `pgrep wine`
[12:49] <freakabcd> and suddenly today its all crapped. i can;t even switch to vt. thats what was driving me nuts
[12:49] <ompaul> freakabcd, okay so let me guess, your talking dapper updates?
[12:49] <freakabcd> no
[12:49] <freakabcd> only breezy stuff
[12:50] <freakabcd> you want me to paste the sources.list, if you don;t believe me
[12:50] <buzze> who uses glx i think its great
[12:50] <slackern> hastesaver: you have to go to System->Preferences->Preferred applications and set it up there
[12:50] <watson540> peetu: that command will raise the priority of wine, and it made the difference bwtween me running laggy cs at 640x480 to perfectly smooth at 1024x768 :)
[12:50] <Khamael> screamz: but it shouldn`t do that? logged in as another user, and that worked fine
[12:50] <ompaul> freakabcd, okay do the dance I gave you, that i810 should be native support
[12:50] <buzze> i mean xgl
[12:50] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:50] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[12:50] <freakabcd> yeah iknow. will try with vesa now
[12:50] <ompaul> buzze, ^^ it only works with dapper
[12:50] <Tinse> FFS ! ... everytime I get to the 'lock' file my nautilus crashes !!! ARGH
[12:51] <watson540> peetu: when you ran dpkg, did you select 'ati' for the driver , or 'radeon'?
[12:51] <hastesaver> slackern, do you know if there's a commandline command for bringing it up? I'm using kde, and it's a pain to switch...
[12:51] <neosc> hello all.. i've ubuntu installed and i can see 3 sda hard disk icons on the desktop.. bu twhen i click em i get "you do not have the permissions to view the contents of sda1"
[12:51] <peetu> i selected that fglrz thing
[12:51] <neosc> what could be th eproblem?
[12:51] <watson540> peetu: hrm...
[12:51] <watson540> peetu: have you looked inside /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[12:51] <slackern> hastesaver: no idea don't use kde, i just did like that in gnome when i used swiftfox
[12:52] <peetu> watson540:  what about it ?
[12:52] <ompaul> Tinse, so your saying find file status  ... everytime (cos I know you won't use bad language even by initials, us being a G rated channel and all that :-)) approach it with a terminal, what lock file are you looking at?
[12:52] <watson540> peetu: just for the heck of it, see if you can run 'fglrxconfig' i dunno if ati still sends that script with the driver or not
[12:52] <buzze> so dapper channel is #ubuntu-1
[12:52] <ompaul> buzze, no its +1
[12:52] <Ng> buzze: #ubuntu+1
[12:52] <buzze> ok
[12:53] <ompaul> buzze, its the release after the current stables channel
[12:53] <Tinse> ompaul, hehe no ofc I wouldnt! .. it's the lock file in .mozilla/firefox/9felse6352/
[12:53] <watson540> peetu: i was going to say look inside xorg.conf to mkae sure its indeed trying to load your fglrx driver, also look at any error messages that occur when you start X
[12:53] <buzze> oh i see
[12:53] <freakabcd> ompaul, ok. when i run through the list, vesa, then defaults... then autodetect monitor. it doesn;t get back after that :(
[12:53] <peetu> got that config thing up
[12:54] <freakabcd> i.e. get back to the prompt or to the reconfigure app
[12:54] <mabus> how do I mount my usb drive mp3 player please
[12:54] <watson540> peetu: ok go theru the config script then, most things just hit 'enter' to select the default
[12:54] <ompaul> freakabcd, time to turn off X; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:54] <freakabcd> i don;t know what its doing. grr
[12:54] <watson540> peetu: and make sure at the end of the script..when it asks you to save,....make sure it saves it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf - because sometimes it will want to save it as xf86config instead
[12:54] <almenfors> i give up ill just install ethernet instead
[12:54] <lss> When I'm using synaptic/kpackager, and I click on a .deb file for the program to install, a lot of the time it needs additional librarie files to run. Why not enable a feature which 'downloads the library for you' ?
[12:54] <ompaul> Tinse, that lock file is a sim link to a port its not for examining :-)
[12:55] <peetu> mm waitup.
[12:55] <ompaul> Tinse,  symbolic  link that is
[12:55] <peetu> watson540:  could we do /query ?
[12:55] <peetu> So much text here and i have to do things while so i always have to look for your guides :)
[12:55] <Tinse> ompaul, that lock file is apparently the thing stopping me from using my firefox
[12:55] <watson540> peetu: plus, you shouldnt hacve to reset every time :) just do a 'modprobe fglrx' if it isnt already loaded and kill X by hhitting ctrl-alt bkspc and restarting it
[12:56] <watson540> linux is made to not restart :)
[12:56] <Tinse> ompaul, firefox refuses to open... says I allready got one running (wich I dont)
[12:56] <peetu> watson540:  mm whats my mouse port :D
[12:56] <peetu> Or how do i find it
[12:56] <watson540> whoah i didnt know people actually used kopete for irc. haha
[12:56] <kane777> where are the repositories file?? source.list or how it's called...
[12:56] <watson540> peetu: just hit enter if you dont know the answer to the question :)
[12:57] <ubuntu> hi
[12:57] <ompaul> Tinse, if you are sure you don't >>ps auwx | grep firefox << to prove it at a command line to rm lock in that directory
[12:57] <maddox> Tinse: I get that sometimes, just killall -9 firefox in a terminal and firefox should open
[12:57] <ubuntu> hi
[12:57] <watson540> ubuntu: you're stuttering
[12:58] <Hajuu> anyone able to help me use screen?
[12:58] <watson540> oop he quit :)
[12:58] <Hajuu> I dont understand it
[12:58] <watson540> Hajuu: man screen.
[12:58] <maddox> ok, to start a screen, type:
[12:58] <maddox> screen [command] 
[12:58] <watson540> hajuu: ctrl-a-d to detach, screen -raAD to re-attach
[12:58] <Tinse> rosen@rosen:~$ ps auwx | grep firefox
[12:58] <Tinse> rosen     8256  0.0  0.1   3056   748 pts/0    S+   12:58   0:00 grep firefox
[12:58] <freakabcd> ompaul, ok. gdm is not running, ps -ef  |grep -i xorg returns nothing. still it gets stuck at that step :(
[12:58] <ompaul> watson540, we don't ever do google X or man Y we either advise or say nothing
[12:58] <maddox> Yeah watson beat me to it
[12:58] <Tinse> killall -9 firefox
[12:58] <Tinse> firefox: no process killed
[12:58] <Hajuu> ohh its a key combo! the man just says c-a c.. and I was like wtf
[12:59] <watson540> ompaul: noted :)
[12:59] <watson540> maddox: heh
[12:59] <maddox> ctrl+a then d
[12:59] <ompaul> watson540, we got a bit of a distro ++ kind of karma :)
[12:59] <ompaul> Tinse, killall does not use -9
[12:59] <Hajuu> oh my god
[12:59] <Hajuu> lol
[12:59] <watson540> ompaul: thats good :), this channel is much better than joining #debian and getting roasted into a smore :)
[01:00] <Hajuu> I dont get it
[01:00] <ompaul> watson540, before I got my cloak I used to drop into #debian now and again and give verbose help
[01:00] <Hajuu> what key combos do what/
[01:00] <watson540> Hajuu: dont get what? what are you trying to run?
[01:00] <maddox> ompaul: You can use -9 with killall
[01:00] <ompaul> now I get flamed with it
[01:00] <watson540> ompaul: uh-huh, thats all they have time to do in there tose kiddies kill me..they all gang up on you for trivial things like saying 'lol'
[01:01] <hastesaver> ompaul, you mean you're flamed if you give verbose help? wow...
[01:01] <Tinse> nothing seems to work though
[01:01] <ompaul> maddox, yeah but it is -9 already (or does it do 15)
[01:01] <watson540> i think they all wait around for somepoor noob to show, just to pounce, heh
[01:01] <hastesaver> Tinse, that's because no firefox is not running (you see only 'grep firefox', right?)
[01:02] <hastesaver> Tinse, go into your .mozilla/firefox/<profile directory> and remove 'lock' and '.parentlock'
[01:02] <Tinse> hastesaver, I dont see anything, I have no idea what is going on
[01:02] <Tinse> hastesaver, I can't .. then my nautilus crashes .... this is like the most buggy thing I've ever seen tbh
[01:02] <hastesaver> Tinse, ok, do it from the terminal
[01:02] <Rod> hi..  I need some example index.html files which gphoto creates when you want to export your pictures to a website
[01:03] <ghozzt> anyone here with WINE experience?
[01:03] <Rod> Could you send me some of these examples, please?
[01:03] <ompaul> Tinse, Applications Accessories Terminal << you need that to do the command >> rm lock
[01:03] <Rod> rgoessen at gmail.com
[01:03] <watson540> ghozzt: yes
[01:03] <Rod> is gphoto at the live cd?
[01:03] <alsa> does any one know how i can share a file on linux on a windows network!  i can see the ubuntu server on my network neighborhood on my windows OS but i cant access it ! it keeps asking for a user name and password
[01:03] <alsa> and no account works for that
[01:04] <hastesaver> Nautilus probably crashes because lock is a link to something that doesn't exist... but it shouldn't crash for things like that! Bug report!
[01:04] <watson540> alsa: you might want to set up SSH then
[01:04] <ompaul> !tell alsa about samba
[01:04] <ghozzt> watson540: I am trying to interface with a USB smart card reader in WINE
[01:04] <watson540> or samba :)
[01:04] <ompaul> alsa, have a look at that
[01:04] <ghozzt> watson540: is this possible?
[01:04] <ompaul> alsa, I hit enter too early, have a look at the message from ubotu
[01:04] <peetu> watson540:  omg i got lost, the last questiont didnt let me just press enter :( i had to press y
[01:04] <watson540> ghozzt: hrm? im not sure why you need wine, are ou using a window app to interface with it?
[01:05] <watson540> peetu: wow, what a shame :G
[01:05] <peetu> Yeah indeed :D
[01:05] <watson540> peetu: you're still aloiive though, i see
[01:05] <ghozzt> watson540: it's a windoze only netbanking application that uses a smart card reader
[01:05] <Tinse> aaaaah there we go
[01:05] <peetu> Hehe :D
[01:05] <watson540> ghozzt: honestly, i never messed with them im sorry
[01:05] <Tinse> dont understand how both my firefox and nautilus could crash like that though
[01:05] <ghozzt> watson540: thx anyway
[01:06] <watson540> ghozzt: but just for kicks, what errors are youy getting?
[01:06] <hastesaver> Tinse, does it work now?
[01:06] <Tinse> hastesaver, seems like it
[01:06] <peetu> watson540, now with big excitement im gonna boot my computer :D hope ill get back, I know you like me ;)
[01:06] <watson540> peetu: so restart X and see if it worked!
[01:06] <Tinse> hastesaver, but it was working like a charm yesterday aswell.. untill it stopped :P
[01:06] <hastesaver> Tinse, if Firefox is running, it works. What more do you want? :)
[01:06] <joseles> ol
[01:06] <joseles> hola
[01:07] <Tinse> hastesaver, I want it to stop crashing and stop doing wierd stuff that makes no sense :)
[01:07] <ompaul> !es
[01:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:07] <hastesaver> Tinse, yeah, Fx crashes sometimes. Bad extensions, usually.
[01:07] <Rod> Does the live cd come with gphoto2?
[01:08] <Tinse> hastesaver, hehe maybe I should update to dapper though ... is that stable?
[01:08] <watson540> Tinse: i upgraded some 3 days ago and hav eyet to have any problems :)(
[01:08] <ompaul> !dapper
[01:08] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[01:08] <hastesaver> Tinse, Dapper is stable enough at the moment (from what I've heard). But I think the problem is probably with Firefox itself :(
[01:08] <Rod> Does the live cd come with gphoto2?
[01:08] <Tinse> watson540, not bad .. I installed this 3 days ago and I have had nothing but problems :P
[01:09] <watson540> ys, cursed firefox, i had to start using Konqueror cause its so buggy at times
[01:09] <peetu> and here i am :o
[01:09] <Tinse> hastesaver, yeah but my entire system crashes aswell + nautilus is acting really wierd
[01:09] <watson540> I had abox once where FF would seg fault every time i started it
[01:09] <ompaul> Tinse, did you use some "helpful" applicaiton that said it was going to install codecs and get all sorts of stuff working?
[01:09] <peetu> watson540 what was that thing again that i see my direct rendering thingie
[01:09] <watson540> peetu: glxinfo
[01:09] <Tinse> ompaul, no I didnt use automatix :P
[01:09] <ompaul> Tinse, :-)
[01:09] <peetu> still no
[01:09] <peetu> :/
[01:10] <clausen> Hey.. my sudo dont work.. I cant access the programs, and my sound dont work.. Anyone know whats wrong ? I tried reinstalling sudo
[01:10] <hastesaver> Tinse, oh, then something is wrong... do a clean installation of Dapper if you can :)
[01:10] <watson540> peetu: umm, can you send me your xorg.conf?
[01:10] <ompaul> Tinse, ff1.5 ?
[01:10] <hastesaver> BTW, is easyubuntu dangerous? Is it recommended?
[01:10] <ompaul> !easyubuntu
[01:10] <ubotu> [easyubuntu]  an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[01:10] <Tinse> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060418 Firefox/1.0.8 (Ubuntu package 1.0.8)
[01:10] <watson540> peetu: do you use somne sort of graphical login manager? the reason i ask is that you need to see what errors are occuring when you start X
[01:11] <mynimal> I'm having some problems with running make, make install. I'm under Dapper, and I have make installed. It works sometimes, but most of the time it doesn't, even when the documentation says to use it. Basically, I've got a Makefile.am and a Makefile.in, but no makefile - I looked them up and they're a split Makefile or something?
[01:11] <hastesaver> ompaul, I know what easyubuntu is, but I want your opinion :)
[01:11] <Tinse> easyubuntu only works on 686 I'm told
[01:11] <peetu> watson540:  mm? well im not certain what you're asking but i use that gnome login screen i think
[01:11] <vitry> hi, why aserver is not in my ubuntu?
[01:11] <watson540> mynimal: thats because ou must ./configure first:)
[01:11] <mynimal> I have,
[01:11] <ompaul> hastesaver, ask me if I use it, I will say I use the documentation and I have been known to use easyubuntu
[01:12] <catmusic> hi
[01:12] <peetu> Hello
[01:12] <ompaul> hastesaver, depends on the machine
[01:12] <mynimal> It leaves me with those two files (and everything else of course) but no regular Makefile
[01:12] <watson540> mynimal: is there a 'atogen.sh' file in there somewhere?
[01:12] <watson540> err.. autogen.sh
[01:12] <mynimal> Nope, I looked
[01:12] <ompaul> Tinse, no that is incorrect, go to #easyubuntu for more information
[01:12] <mynimal> I'm installing GTK+ 2.8.17
[01:12] <watson540> peetu: do you know how to dcc? i need you to either paste your xorg.conf to pastebin or dcc it to me
[01:13] <peetu> ill paste it to pastebin
[01:13] <peetu> What was the url again ?
[01:13] <freakabcd> mynimal, automake
[01:13] <peetu> !pastebin
[01:13] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:13] <watson540> mynimal: if i was in your situation i would look at the erros , then install every dev tool i could find , heh
[01:13] <hastesaver> ompaul, ok, I'll go there and ask about the dangers ;)
[01:13] <ompaul> watson540, dont ever suggest dcc, certain bots kill on sight over it
[01:13] <watson540> ompaul: oh really, my bad. you're learning me a lot today heh
[01:13] <mynimal> It just said no makefile found, :P
[01:14] <watson540> mynimal: is this just isolated to one app or what?
[01:14] <mynimal> freakabcd: Ran that in the terminal, still can't make. Or is that a substitute?
[01:14] <mynimal> No, it's throughout many apps.
[01:14] <ompaul> hastesaver, I don't suggest that you do or don't use it, it is the users choice, as I said I use it for some stuff, and there ya go
[01:14] <watson540> mynimal: mmost every source i download has a Makefile
[01:14] <peetu> watson540 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14208
[01:14] <watson540> mynimal: if its something in the reposirories you should use apt to install it anyway
[01:15] <freakabcd> mynimal, what does running automake in the top level dir say?
[01:15] <mynimal> I've got: makefile.msc, Makefile.am, Makefile.in
[01:15] <ebraila> How to install a sound Card on Compaq Deskpro?
[01:15] <mynimal> Mind if I paste?
[01:15] <mynimal> FOur lines.
[01:16] <freakabcd> mynimal, have you got a configure.ac or configure.in ?
[01:16] <ompaul> mynimal, yes we mind
[01:16] <ompaul> !paste
[01:16] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[01:16] <mynimal> Ok
[01:16] <freakabcd> mynimal, ?
[01:16] <mynimal> I think I need automake 1.7
[01:16] <ompaul> mynimal, over 2 lines bad
[01:16] <watson540> peetu: your xorg.conf looks okay, which means its something else fudging it up
[01:16] <mynimal> Says version mismatch, this is Automake 1.9.6
[01:16] <Tinse> oh jeez... Singapore is getting a new fiber grid, wich gives all a 1000(!) Mbit dsl
[01:16] <mynimal> ALright, paul
[01:16] <peetu> watson540 okay.
[01:16] <hastesaver> ompaul, ok, thanks. I'll just manually get stuff; that isn't hard anyway
[01:17] <ompaul> !tell hastesaver about restricted
[01:17] <freakabcd> mynimal, try installing 1.8.x: apt-get install automake-1.8
[01:17] <Tinse> 1Gbit DSL ! ... I would need a bigger harddisk
[01:17] <watson540> peetu: i dont know how to get the output errors of starting X when you're running a login manager though :(
[01:17] <mynimal> I have configure.in, also
[01:17] <freakabcd> 1.9.6 is hated by many projects
[01:17] <watson540> maybe if you ctrl-alt-f1 to the first terminal it will tell you
[01:17] <freakabcd> mynimal, didn;t i ask you that question few lines back?
[01:17] <freakabcd> mynimal, run autoconf
[01:17] <alsa> ompaul, can u please tell me what i need to do to make my share viewable
[01:17] <satlan32> hi
[01:17] <alsa> cuz i read the whole thing and didnt get my solution
[01:17] <watson540> there must be some output error log file for X
[01:17] <mynimal> freakabcd: Yeah, it's crazy in here haha.
[01:17] <watson540> does anyone know it?
[01:18] <satlan32> i need a good guide for writing shell scripts
[01:18] <satlan32> thanks
[01:18] <freakabcd> satlan32, /join #bash
[01:18] <ompaul> alsa, 5.10?
[01:18] <alsa> yeah 5.1
[01:18] <mynimal> configure.in:49: comes from Automake 1.7.9.  You should recreate
[01:18] <mynimal> I think I need 1.7
[01:18] <freakabcd> and get the bash programming guide and advanced bash scripting thingy
[01:18] <peetu> watson540:
[01:18] <peetu> I found something intresting
[01:18] <peetu>  glxinfo | grep vendor
[01:19] <watson540> uh-huh
[01:19] <ompaul> alsa, no release in 2005 month 1 it was april or october :)
[01:19] <peetu> When i do that, it should say that i have ATI card, now it just says that i have something like mesa
[01:19] <peetu> :s
[01:19] <watson540> peetu: yah it means you are running MESA ati drivers instead of FGLRX drivers
[01:19] <mynimal> also, do I run automake install after automake or what?
[01:19] <peetu> mm okay
[01:19] <peetu> And how do i change that ?
[01:19] <watson540> peetu: what i need is the error log that X creates when it starts, hold on a sec
[01:19] <ebraila> Hi
[01:19] <peetu> Sorry being such a nerve-breaker :D
[01:19] <alsa> ompaul,  :S what do u mean :S
[01:20] <freakabcd> mynimal, are you sure you're trying to get gtk tarballs compiled and installed?
[01:20] <mynimal> Yes
[01:20] <mynimal> I extracted from their 2.8.17 tarball
[01:20] <freakabcd> cos afaik they always come with autogen.sh / configure / Makefile.cvs
[01:20] <mynimal> Okay, automake worked now.
[01:20] <ompaul> alsa I don't do samba (yet, as I live on a totally linux network)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba has both server and client side samba solutions
[01:20] <watson540> peetu: im bored with nothing better to do if i didnt want to hel,lp i woiuldnt :)
[01:20] <watson540> peetu: ill brb im going to restart X on my box
[01:21] <peetu> hehe
[01:21] <ompaul> alsa, you are using the version from october so the number is 5.10 :-) there is no 5.1 that would be january :)
[01:21] <mynimal> freakabcd: I tried "automake install" but there isn't an install.am
[01:21] <freakabcd> huh?
[01:21] <freakabcd> nono..
[01:21] <alsa> 5.10
[01:21] <alsa> :D
[01:21] <ompaul> alsa, even worse it would be 5.01 :)
[01:21] <freakabcd> you run automake to generate Makefile.in from Makefile.am
[01:21] <alsa> nop ! its 5.10
[01:21] <freakabcd> autoconf generates your 'configure' script
[01:21] <alsa> i just was using a 2 digit display :P
[01:22] <freakabcd> whichyou run when it available, after that make, make install
[01:22] <mynimal> I already had configure, Makefile.in, and Makefile.am
[01:22] <freakabcd> mynimal, huh?
[01:22] <ompaul> alsa anyway  this works or we would have people saying it was faulty every day https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba << just go through the steps cutting and pasting one at a time
[01:22] <mynimal> I ran ./configure, and tried make but it said no makefile existed.
[01:22] <alsa> ompaul i got it !
[01:23] <[ex] hungry-hobo> peetu:
[01:23] <freakabcd> rm -rf tarball_dir; tar zxvf gtk-2.8.x.tar.gz; cd gtk-2.8.x; ./configure --prefix=/opt/my_own_gtk; echo $?; make
[01:23] <watson540> peetu: look for a Xorg.log in /var/log
[01:23] <mynimal> Argh, I have to go.
[01:24] <watson540> peet: or something similar
[01:24] <mynimal> I'll be back in a few hours, thanks for your help.
[01:24] <peetu> watson540:  okay
[01:25] <peetu> watson540 xorg.0.log ?
[01:25] <Hajuu> using screen, how can I find out which screen im on currently?
[01:25] <watson540> peetu: exactly, could you paste that?
[01:26] <almenfors> how can i see my exact kernel version?
[01:26] <kane777> off-ing... :)
[01:26] <freakabcd> uname -r
[01:26] <freakabcd> almenfors, ^^
[01:27] <watson540> Hajuu: if you have more than one screen session and try to re-attach then it will ask you which one and name them for you
[01:27] <freakabcd> watson540, no. thats not what he wants to know.
[01:27] <peetu> watson540:  okay, sec.
[01:27] <freakabcd> he wants to know which screen _number_ he is on when inside a screen session. atleast thats how i understood it
[01:28] <watson540> ooh, well you got me on that one
[01:28] <Hajuu> id also like to know why the key combos in it for me are working sometimes and not others :/
[01:28] <freakabcd> so Hajuu.. read the man page for screen
[01:28] <freakabcd> or else an easy way to find out is C-a "
[01:28] <watson540> yeqah i use screen but i never had to learn past the detaching and re-attaching part :)
[01:29] <Nullified> !ftp
[01:29] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[01:29] <freakabcd> it will allow you to visually select which screen to move to. but in this display it will show an asterisk on the current screen
[01:29] <neo911> i've been trying to run network-admin but i get the error "Unable to copy the user's XAuthorization file" how do i fix this? thanks heaps
[01:29] <Timma> Does anyone have a link to an mpg plugin for Totem Movie Player?
[01:29] <peetu> watson540:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14209
[01:30] <freakabcd> Hajuu, key combos working sometimes and not other times is probably because you ended up pressing some other key inbetween the combo
[01:30] <kane777> back again... one more question... I repartitioned my hdd (decreased swap size to 512MB and created new partition)... But I don't have more disk space... Where is this space gone??
[01:31] <freakabcd> kane777, so you created a new partition in the newly availabvle space?
[01:31] <freakabcd> then you need to mount it to see the space!
[01:31] <alsa> how do i edit my smb passwords ?
[01:31] <kane777> freakabcd, yes...
[01:31] <kane777> freakabcd, I mounted to /
[01:31] <freakabcd> huh?
[01:31] <freakabcd> kane777, sorry i haven;t followed your problem description. could you start from the beginning?
[01:32] <Timma> Does anyone have a link to an mpg plugin for Totem Movie Player?
[01:32] <freakabcd> as in what was there before and what you did and what you expect to be available?
[01:32] <freakabcd> mpg plugin for totem?
[01:32] <freakabcd> just get mplayer man
[01:32] <Timma> ok
[01:32] <neo911> sorry to repeat but i need to access
[01:32] <neo911> i've been trying to run network-admin but i get the error "Unable to copy the user's XAuthorization file" how do i fix this? thanks heaps
[01:33] <kane777> I repartitioned disk - decreased swap and from the empty space created new partition but I still have as much free space as I had before... no increase in space...
[01:33] <freakabcd> kane777, ok. how did you mount the new partition as / ?
[01:34] <freakabcd> you already have a / partition, no? in which your ubuntu is installed?
[01:34] <kane777> well I just opened the disk manager and selected access path...
[01:34] <freakabcd> disk manager? access path?
[01:34] <kane777> freakabcd, yea
[01:34] <watson540> peetu: wow thats wierd, because from the looks of it, your fglrx driver is loaded but its just not enabling DRI for some reason, can someone with more extensive knowledge take alook atthis?
[01:34] <peetu> mm. dri ? :D
[01:34] <watson540>  can someone with more extensive knowledge take alook atthis?
[01:35] <freakabcd> kane777, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[01:35] <freakabcd> DONT paste here
[01:35] <watson540> but then again you said glxinfo was telling you, you were trunning a mesa driver
[01:35] <freakabcd> paste on the ubuntu paste site or some other paste site
[01:35] <alsa> ompaul,  i love u bro
[01:35] <alsa> :D
[01:35] <watson540> so its quite the paradox
[01:35] <alsa> ubuntu help pages rock
[01:35] <Timma> freakabcd, which mplayer do i download
[01:35] <ompaul> alsa, its a community thing :)
[01:35] <Timma> not sure which thing from this list
[01:35] <Timma> Source and Binaries
[01:35] <alsa> lol :D
[01:36] <alsa> i was watching " the code linux " movie yesterday
[01:36] <alsa> drove chills down my sine
[01:36] <alsa> spine*
[01:36] <watson540> ompaul: what is your take on this ? have you been following mine an dpeetu's convo?
[01:36] <aizatto> joy to the guy you upgrade ruby on rails to 1.1 :)
[01:36] <aizatto> s/you/who
[01:36] <Timma> which of these do i download?
[01:36] <Timma> description  	HTTP  	FTP
[01:36] <Timma> MPlayer v1.0pre7try2 source 	[ CH | HU | CH2 ]  	[ CH | HU ] 
[01:36] <Timma> Windows releases 	[ CH | HU | CH2 ]  	[ CH | HU ] 
[01:36] <Timma> Red Hat / Fedora RPM packages 	[ PL | PL2 ]  	[ PL ] 
[01:36] <Timma> Mac OS X preview release 	[ CH | HU | CH2 ]  	[ CH | HU ] 
[01:36] <watson540> ompaul: could use some of your knowledge on this one :)..im just a novice helper :)
[01:36] <clausen> Hey.. my sudo dont work.. I cant access the programs, and my sound dont work.. Anyone know whats wrong ? I tried reinstalling sudo
[01:36] <watson540> Timma: GAH MY EYES
[01:36] <kane777> freakabcd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d14210
[01:36] <freakabcd> Timma, are you familiar with compiling programs?
[01:37] <Timma> no
[01:37] <ompaul> Timma, DONT paste in this channel, thanks use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:37] <Timma> ok
[01:37] <Timma> sorry
[01:37] <ompaul> watson540, I'll scroll back give me a few mins
[01:37] <Timma> i only got ubuntu a few days ago, not familiar with this stuff
[01:37] <freakabcd> ok, then its best for you to get the binary from the ubuntu universe
[01:37] <usuario> ga_TITA_1118
[01:37] <peetu> watson540:  well could it be about kernel things ? :D my friend is blabbering about that.
[01:37] <freakabcd> or is it multiverse
[01:37] <hastesaver> Timma, don't download from there. Never dowload programs from websites when you're using Ubuntu. Always use repos
[01:37] <freakabcd> !mplayer
[01:37] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:37] <hastesaver> !tell Timma about mplayer
[01:37] <Timma> ok
[01:37] <freakabcd> Timma, ^^^ look above at what ubotu has said
[01:37] <watson540> ompaul: ok, basically we're trying to get his fglrx driver going, i had him past his xorg log into pastebin and its quite perplexing to me
[01:37] <freakabcd> check those urls
[01:38] <watson540> but thanks for looking
[01:38] <kbrooks> hastesaver: why shoulsn't he?
[01:38] <Timma> ok
[01:38] <hastesaver> kbrooks, he's new :)
[01:38] <watson540> peetu: just hang tight we'll figger something
[01:38] <ompaul> watson540, so what you do is ignore it :-) and then you do this
[01:38] <`RaSh> wats the diference between ubuntu kubuntu and edubuntu?
[01:38] <phenom> Hello
[01:38] <kbrooks> !tell `RaSh about kubuntu
[01:38] <kbrooks> !tell `RaSh about edubuntu
[01:38] <phenom> I have a problem running video in Totem?
[01:39] <freakabcd> `RaSh, you can think of then as 'meta'distributions
[01:39] <kbrooks> `RaSh: ubotu should have msged you
[01:39] <ompaul> watson540, peetu , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<<< when it gets to driver change it to fglrx
[01:39] <Frogzoo> `RaSh: ubunut=gnome, kubuntu=kde, edubuntu= education release
[01:39] <hastesaver> kbrooks, seriously, it becomes messy once you start installing programs with other than apt, IMHO
[01:39] <kbrooks> freakabcd: don't say that
[01:39] <freakabcd> phenom, what problem? and what kind of video are you trying to play?
[01:39] <freakabcd> kbrooks, why?
[01:39] <`RaSh> but in ubuntu can i install kde?
[01:39] <kbrooks> freakabcd: "meta" is a new word
[01:39] <freakabcd> you have something against metaprogramming, meta...? ;)
[01:39] <kbrooks> `RaSh: yes
[01:39] <`RaSh> ok cool
[01:39] <freakabcd> WHAT??!!
[01:39] <hastesaver> `RaSh, yes, install the package kubuntu-desktop
[01:39] <Frogzoo> !tell `RaSh about kubuntu
[01:39] <freakabcd> sorry, meta is _not_ a new word
[01:39] <kbrooks> freakabcd: (new word for `RaSh)
[01:40] <freakabcd> oh ok.
[01:40] <freakabcd> maybe, i agree
[01:40] <`RaSh> yes.. long time i dont use linux ;)
[01:40] <kane777> freakabcd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d14210
[01:40] <`RaSh> i need to remember again :)
[01:40] <`RaSh> lots of things have changed
[01:40] <phenom> I'm trying to watch video game clips from a website and when it tryes to play the video clip it says "Totem could not play 'fd://0', There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the dorresponding plugins
[01:40] <peetu> watson540:  ofc im gonna hang on here :D
[01:40] <ompaul> kbrooks, so then `RaSh can say so - meta means  A prefix meaning between, with, after, behind, over,
[01:40] <ompaul>  about, reversel
[01:40] <Frogzoo> !codecs
[01:40] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:41] <kane777> brb
[01:41] <phenom> !easysource
[01:41] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:41] <Rod> Does the live cd come with gphoto2?
[01:41] <kbrooks> ompaul: add "for" to that ;)
[01:41] <kbrooks> ompaul: "dara for data" -> metadata. anyway.
[01:42] <kbrooks> has anyone here ever used EU?
[01:42] <ompaul> kbrooks, of course you have
[01:42] <freakabcd> phenom, fd://0 ? thats a weird url schema
[01:42] <freakabcd> best is for you to install mplayer and the mplayer-plugin
[01:42] <phenom> freakabcd, I don't undertand it
[01:42] <freakabcd> then you can view directly from the websites
[01:43] <kbrooks> ompaul: other people
[01:43] <void^> fd://0 is probably meant to be stdin
[01:43] <ompaul> I have
[01:43] <phenom> freakabcd, I have installed Mplayer and it worked for downloaded video, but does not play from a website
[01:43] <freakabcd> phenom, because you don;t ave the mplayer-lpugin installed?
[01:43] <hastesaver> phenom, get the mplayerplug-in (or mozilla-mplayer, I'm still not sure which one is the proper name :)
[01:43] <ompaul> kbrooks, state your case - I have a brand new 5.10 install in front of me atm :)
[01:43] <freakabcd> pardon, plugin
[01:43] <kane777> freakabcd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14211 sorry I just did what you told me but then I realized its hdc... this is correct... cant send pm's cuz I'm not registered
[01:44] <freakabcd> kane777, what about output from mount?
[01:44] <phenom> Ok I have the mplayer-mozilla plugin
[01:44] <freakabcd> actually better don;t do output of mount
[01:44] <freakabcd> kane777, do this instead: df -lh
[01:44] <freakabcd> and paste the output
[01:45] <kbrooks> ompaul: well, i will have a package ready....*predicts* tonight :)
[01:45] <beanz> What is the recommended way of creating dirs at boot under /var/run ?
[01:45] <hastesaver> kane777, it's easy to register, just type /msg NickServ register <password> :)
[01:45] <phenom> How do I tell FireFox to use Mplayer instead of Totem?
[01:45] <ompaul> kbrooks, so wait for then :-) kewl
[01:45] <peetu> watson540, i have something for you; [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 7912 using kernel context 0
[01:45] <freakabcd> peetu, how did you install the driver?
[01:45] <peetu> em
[01:46] <freakabcd> isn;t there a kernel component to install as well?
[01:46] <Frogzoo> phenom: install 'mozilla-mplayer'
[01:46] <hastesaver> phenom, one easy way is to uninstall the totem plugin and install the mplayerplug-in
[01:46] <peetu> If i remember right i used that tutorial at www.ubuntu.org
[01:46] <ompaul> peetu, did you try that last suggestion?
[01:46] <Tinsoldat> is there any program in ubuntu that will let me test my harddisk for errors or bad sectors ? ... it's acting strange :P
[01:46] <ompaul> peetu, I addressed you and watson540 in the same line?
[01:46] <Frogzoo> Tinsoldat: smartutils
[01:46] <peetu> mm
[01:46] <hyphenated> Tinsoldat: badblocks
[01:46] <peetu> Cant find that one :o
[01:47] <MetaMorfoziS> hey all
[01:47] <Tinsoldat> you overestimate me :P ... where can I find it ? :)
[01:47] <phenom> Should I remove Totem all together?
[01:47] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please tell me aprogram, that can make simple 440khz mp3
[01:47] <MetaMorfoziS> or any other frequency, so i need a sound editor with tone geterator
[01:47] <Frogzoo> Tinsoldat: sry, 'smartmontools'
[01:47] <ompaul> peetu , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<<< when it gets to driver change it to fglrx    <<<<< that one
[01:47] <peetu> ompaul:  done.
[01:48] <Nullified> Hey guys, this is probably a bit of a weird one, But i listen to alot of foreign music, namely tatu, but some of my stuff is in russian, however the GUI displays this in funny characters instead of the proper russian ones, Anyone know how to allow the proper russian ones?
[01:48] <peetu> It has been at fglrx all the time
[01:48] <ompaul> peetu, then ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:48] <hastesaver> phenom, no, just the plugin for firefox. The one that says plugin, IIRC :)
[01:48] <MetaMorfoziS> Nullified: ^^ i has the same, with hungarian chars:D
[01:48] <`RaSh> its better dling kubuntu that ubuntu?
[01:49] <Nullified> MetaMorfoziS, Did you sort it?
[01:49] <MetaMorfoziS> `RaSh: the difference is in the window manager... check: http://kde.org or http://gnome.org
[01:49] <watson540> ompaul: sorry i was afk, if you look at peetu's xorg lof in pastebin you will see he indeed HAS set it up, i also looked at his xorg.conf, which is why ii say it is indeed perplexing and out of my hands :(
[01:49] <freakabcd> Nullified, tatu... is that the chick (that might be ?ez) ?
[01:49] <watson540> lof = log
[01:49] <MetaMorfoziS> Nullified:  nope, i has that problem only in an xmms applet (in k menu)
[01:49] <watson540> but the guy quit now, so oh well i guess :(
[01:50] <phenom> I don't know how to remove plugins from FireFox
[01:50] <Tinsoldat> Frogzoo, tryin it out now, thankya :)
[01:50] <Nullified> freakabcd, its the 2 russian girls, fake lesbian types, the ginger one is alllllllllll mine
[01:50] <peetu> mm
[01:50] <freakabcd> haha.. some good songs i must say
[01:51] <hastesaver> phenom, I think removing the package totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin should be enough. Use Synaptic (or apt-get or whatever you use) to remove it
[01:51] <ompaul> peetu, okay you have restarted X  that might be useful try a 3d game
[01:51] <watson540> peetu: i was afk , sorry, its out of my hands now as every conventional methoid to install the driver has been used, i guess its time to start forum diving for you :(
[01:51] <MetaMorfoziS> phenom: in your home: .mozilla/plugins or .mozilla/firefox/plugins or sg similar path
[01:51] <MetaMorfoziS> you found libflashpalyer or libsomething....
[01:52] <neosc> hey guys..
[01:52] <MetaMorfoziS> if you delete that, the plugin is removed, you can check all plugins if you typ the url bar: about:plugins
[01:52] <neosc> cant seem to install xmms on my ubuntu..
[01:52] <phenom> uninstalling Totem-gstreamer says it will effect ubuntu-desktop?
[01:52] <neosc> i clicked it in add aplications
[01:52] <neosc> under multimedia
[01:52] <MetaMorfoziS> neosc: start adept
[01:52] <MetaMorfoziS> and type: xmms
[01:53] <neosc> in the terminal?
[01:53] <ompaul> peetu, install this  chromium and if your getting smooth scrolling it is working for you if not tell me
[01:53] <MetaMorfoziS> and install, and have fun
[01:53] <MetaMorfoziS> in terminal type: apt-get install xmms
[01:53] <OlliK> neosc: I have easier way for you
[01:53] <hastesaver> phenom, not totem-gstreamer, just totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin.
[01:53] <neosc> which is?
[01:53] <OlliK> neosc: just open a terminal window and type: sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:53] <OlliK> it will do everything for you automatically then
[01:53] <neosc> k..
[01:53] <variant> wow, just reconfigured the ubuntu kernel, removed a helluva lot of uneeded hardware support..
[01:54] <neosc> appx how many mb will be downloaded?
[01:54] <variant> Thats gotta be reccomended for everyone
[01:54] <watson540> ompaul: sorry, he should just be able to type 'glxinfo' and tell if his driver is working that way, if it says he's using sti instead of mesa its working
[01:54] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, i  forgot the sudo
[01:54] <watson540> obviously you didnt look at his log files :(
[01:54] <phenom> hastesaver, Synaptic isn't even showing a totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin when I search
[01:54] <almenfors> i found a site with some help about wireless cards. http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/wlan/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php?PHPSESSID=79f5cf2cda9bf79e5d14aa558dd15280.. but as a total newb at this i cant get that to work either
[01:54] <ompaul> watson540, aye, but he has said nothing since coming back
[01:55] <freakabcd> almenfors, what card?
[01:55] <neosc> heres what i get
[01:55] <neosc> Reading package lists... Done
[01:55] <neosc> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:55] <neosc> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:55] <neosc> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:55] <neosc> is only available from another source
[01:55] <neosc> E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[01:55] <watson540> yah, i give up on it..i dunnom ya want something done right you just hgave to do it yourself i guess :)
[01:56] <ompaul> neosc, don't paste in the channel use paset.ubuntu-no.org in future thanks
[01:56] <watson540> neosc: 1st, dont paste all that crap 2nd: its most likely because oyou dont have the correct REPOSITORY enabled
[01:56] <Hajuu> !irc
[01:56] <ubotu> hmm... irc is info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[01:56] <neosc> srry bout the paste
[01:56] <peetu> ompaul not working very well
[01:56] <freakabcd> so no luck using ndiswrapper?
[01:56] <phenom> No totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin is found anywhere
[01:56] <peetu> brb
[01:56] <neosc> how do i enable th correct repository?
[01:57] <ompaul> !tell neosc about universe
[01:57] <watson540> neosc: well the way i do it is to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and go thru and remove the comments from the repositories you want
[01:57] <ompaul> neosc, read the message from the bot ubotu please
[01:57] <variant> neosc: add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:57] <hastesaver> phenom, Ok nevermind, just install mplayerplug-in
[01:57] <watson540> sweet ompaul has the bot do his dirty work :)
[01:57] <ompaul> watson540, hehe
[01:57] <neosc> TY
[01:58] <neosc> looking through
[01:58] <ompaul> watson540, I will get the bot to tell you something
[01:58] <watson540> ompaul: lol, i might want to pass on that ine :)
[01:58] <phenom> hastesaver, mplayer-plugin is already installed, I wanted mplayer to run the website video clips instead of Totem
[01:58] <watson540> one*
[01:58] <watson540> awesome, how'd you know i love factoids!
[01:58] <freakabcd> almenfors, no idea mate. other than trying out ndiswrapper if theres no proper linux driver
[01:58] <hastesaver> phenom, are you sure you've installed both mplayer and mplayerplug-in? (Or mozilla-mplayer). Then you should be able to go to Edit->Preferences and change it there
[01:59] <watson540> dude i gotta check out this #ubuntu-offtopic channel, whiloe im off topic
[02:00] <watson540> man i never thought i would be fluent enough in linux to actually be helping others, seems i learned a lot about it in the past 10 yrs :)
[02:00] <phenom> hastesaver, mplayer-586 should work?
[02:00] <phenom> mplayer-386 is installed already
[02:01] <almenfors> anyone know how to use driverloader from linuxant ?
[02:01] <peetu> ompaul:  do you think updating kernel would help, cause my friend said that my kernel is old or something.
[02:01] <freakabcd> ompaul, does ubotu allow for searching of packages ?
[02:01] <almenfors> im trying to work this out but my old windows brain is about to melt.
[02:01] <hastesaver> phenom, I'm sure you have mplayer installed already, install the package 'mplayerplug-in' (or 'mozilla-mplayer')
[02:01] <peetu> But anyways i dont have any clue how to update it :D
[02:01] <ompaul> peetu, don't go there
[02:01] <freakabcd> i.e. search <pkgname> or similar?
[02:02] <phenom> hastesaver, mozilla-mplayer is already installed
[02:02] <ompaul> !info xmms dapper
[02:02] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), Packaged size: 1029 kB, Installed size: 7256 kB
[02:02] <peetu> ompaul:  okay.
[02:02] <ompaul> freakabcd, ^^ current does not need the distro name there
[02:02] <peetu> !ati
[02:02] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:02] <hastesaver> phenom, type about:plugins and see if mozilla-mplayer is listed
[02:02] <freakabcd> ompaul, umm.. ok
[02:03] <phenom> about:plugins
[02:03] <hastesaver> phenom, not here, in Firefox ;)
[02:03] <phenom> Hahaha
[02:03] <phenom> I knew that!
[02:03] <aftertaf> hi all.
[02:03] <ompaul> aftertaf, ...
[02:03] <Zoroaster> in windows, ftp is a part of IIS, ,is it like that in Ubuntu?  is ftp a part of apache?  or is it something i install independently?
[02:03] <sybariten> owned! haha
[02:04] <variant> Zoroaster: ftp is a protocall, iis may provide it but its not the only way to use it (thank god)
[02:04] <cheziyi> Zoroaster, no, its not. you can get wsftp and other ftp programs
[02:04] <watson540> Zoroaster: did you know that the windows version of ftp was actually produced by a college? and they ripped it from *nix :)
[02:04] <variant> Zoroaster: you can isntall ftp on ubuntu, there are many different packages that provide it
[02:04] <phenom> hastesaver, Yes mplayer is listed
[02:05] <peetu> ompaul: does architechture mean my processor or what arch distro im using ?
[02:05] <watson540> i forget i think it was mit or berkley
[02:05] <freakabcd> err.. Zoroaster you looking for a client or server?
[02:05] <variant> peetu: processor
[02:05] <ompaul> peetu, its a proc thing
[02:05] <peetu> mm okay.
[02:05] <peetu> sudo apt-get install linux-proc ?
[02:05] <variant> peetu: ppc,x86,spark etc
[02:05] <sybariten> freakabcd: i'd bet one thousand eurodollars that its NOT the client he wants
[02:05] <ompaul> peetu, what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[02:05] <peetu> 5.10
[02:06] <peetu> I think.
[02:06] <freakabcd> then why the help someone mentioned wsftp ?
[02:06] <peetu> Newest one :D
[02:06] <hastesaver> phenom, good, then you can go to Edit->Preferences->Downloads, View&Edit Actions in Firefox and change everything one by one to mplayerplug-in (it would be easier to remove the totem plugin, but there seem to be problems with that...)
[02:06] <freakabcd> its not even linux stuf!
[02:06] <variant> peetu: apt-get upgrade linux-kernel
[02:06] <peetu> mm okay?
[02:06] <ompaul> peetu, so, you don't need to upgrade the kernel
[02:07] <peetu> mm okay
[02:07] <watson540> peetu: dude ive ran breezy for over a year and i upgraded to dapper ecently and still instaling an ati driver was just a 2 step process :(
[02:07] <ompaul> peetu, look you want to do that graphics thing?
[02:07] <peetu> watson540:  well you're a pro im not :D
[02:07] <cheziyi> hey damn, i'm so f*ed up... wsftp got nth to do with linux in the first place
[02:07] <peetu> ompaul what i want to do ?
[02:07] <variant> cheziyi: what are you talking about?
[02:07] <watson540> peetu: its not that, im hardly a pro, im starting to think your system is messed
[02:07] <peetu> play windows games and linux games.
[02:07] <hastesaver> phenom, that should work; sorry I got to go.
[02:07] <cheziyi> i mentioned wsftp
[02:07] <peetu> watson540:  DONT SAY THAT! :D
[02:07] <variant> cheziyi: what about it?
[02:08] <ompaul> peetu, did you install any programs using sources?
[02:08] <peetu> I've installed this again like 400 times :D
[02:08] <freakabcd> cheziyi, glad to know you noticed
[02:08] <watson540> i think he should remove the mesa drivers :)
[02:08] <peetu> ompaul what programs?
[02:08] <freakabcd> ;)
[02:08] <phenom> hastesaver, There is no View & Edit?
[02:08] <cheziyi> its not a linux  programs in the first place?
[02:08] <peetu> I've installed few with sources and few with synaptic
[02:08] <watson540> peetu: you should try a different version of the ati driver, haveyou tried that?
[02:08] <ompaul> peetu, any
[02:08] <coolrahul> hey mika_i
[02:08] <watson540> peetu: cause it could very well be the driver itself since ati cant seem to make a decent one
[02:08] <hastesaver> phenom, whatever says "Actions" (it's inside the Download part)
[02:08] <ghozzt> anyone here with some knowledge about SMART CARDS
[02:09] <watson540> peetu: you should have seen whatit was like to iuinstall an ati driver just 1 year ago!
[02:09] <coolrahul> r u there
[02:09] <ompaul> peetu, do this >> sudo lshw << and paste the video card info in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:09] <Mika_i> coolrahul: ?
[02:09] <watson540> ghozzt: I asked you over an hour ago to tell me what the error that wine was giving you is :)
[02:09] <coolrahul> yaa
[02:09] <coolrahul> r u from india
[02:09] <Mika_i> from finland
[02:09] <freakabcd> heh
[02:09] <coolrahul> r u a indian
[02:09] <hastesaver> coolrahul, please spell out "are" and "you" in full
[02:09] <freakabcd> quite a few alphabets in common :p
[02:10] <coolrahul> ????
[02:10] <almenfors> this is killing me
[02:10] <Mika_i> coolrahul: finn
[02:10] <freakabcd> well, he might be finnish
[02:10] <coolrahul> ok
[02:10] <phenom> hastesaver, There is a plugins button but that only allows me to enable & disable plugins
[02:10] <coolrahul> i just wanted to know
[02:10] <danm> hi all
[02:10] <ghozzt> watson: in which logfile do I need to look? Sorry, missed your reply earlier
[02:11] <freakabcd> hello danm
[02:11] <aftertaf> anyone know how to solve a kernel panic that says crc error, cannot open root device "hdb2" : pleasse append a correct "root=" boot option.
[02:11] <coolrahul> how can i install softwares on ubuntu
[02:11] <aftertaf> cos i don't, and i'm a bit stuck.
[02:11] <lhb> Mika_i: where in finland? i am lappeenranta
[02:11] <peetu> !paste
[02:11] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[02:11] <Mika_i> lhb: oulu
[02:11] <hastesaver> phenom, I give up, try with someone else... I need to go now :)
[02:11] <watson540> ghozzt: well you said you were trying to run this app oin wine, if its not working wine should exit with some sort of error.
[02:11] <beda> can someone please help me out with an idiot-proof guide to change the monitor refresh rate?
[02:11] <coolrahul> can any one tell me how to install softwares on ubuntu
[02:12] <peetu> ompaul and watson540: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14213
[02:12] <ghozzt> watson: the application installer is running but exits on the fact that it can't find the USB smartcard
[02:12] <Rod> lol coolrahul
[02:12] <Rod> what do you want to install coolrahul
[02:12] <coolrahul> i'm serious
[02:12] <ompaul> !tell coolrahul about synaptic
[02:12] <coolrahul> automatix
[02:12] <ompaul> !automatix
[02:12] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[02:13] <coolrahul> ompaul r u a indian
[02:13] <ompaul> coolrahul, don't use it, if it breaks your machine please don't waste peoples time looking for help just reinstall
[02:13] <peetu> !easyubuntu
[02:13] <ubotu> [easyubuntu]  an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[02:13] <ompaul> coolrahul, no
[02:13] <watson540> ghozzt: have you tries searching for a native linux alternative application to use? im sure there are a few linux smart card apps out there
[02:13] <coolrahul> tell me about alternates
[02:13] <ghozzt> watson: it's a prorietary windoze netbanking application
[02:13] <Nukeador> hi all
[02:14] <coolrahul> hi nukeador
[02:14] <danm> anyone had this problem where you successfully mount a network share via smbfs/fstab, Then the share goes away, then becomes available again, but no matter what you do you can't re-mount it???
[02:14] <watson540> ghozzt: uNf, then those proprietary developers need to make a better proggie, lol
[02:14] <coolrahul> well continue ompaul
[02:14] <ghozzt> watson: I agree :) But it would be nice to kick the last windoze box out of our network here
[02:14] <watson540> ghozzt: i thought i might be able to help you by seeing an error msg but smart cards ans stuff are beyond my realm
[02:14] <Nukeador> is it posible to request dapper cd's?
[02:14] <aftertaf> anyone? :/
[02:14] <ghozzt> watson: npm thx anyway
[02:14] <ompaul> coolrahul,  read the message from ubotu and don't use automatix
[02:15] <lhb> coolrahul: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing.html
[02:15] <watson540> ghozzt: ytes its always nice to make windows obsolete :) it took me a while myself but i havent booted it in over 6 months :)
[02:15] <ompaul> peetu, okay, ehh you seem to have two video cards is that correct?
[02:15] <watson540> plus my desktop looks better than any stardock app out there with the new cvs e17 :)
[02:15] <peetu> No :D i only have one
[02:15] <watson540> peetu: are you sure you dont have an onboard video card also?
[02:16] <peetu> No i dont
[02:16] <peetu> have
[02:16] <hyphenated> Nukeador: it hasn't been released yet
[02:16] <danm> Guess its just me then =)
[02:16] <peetu> in english: i only have one display adapter.
[02:16] <ompaul> peetu, bus info: pci@01:00.0 bus info: pci@01:00.1 strange
[02:16] <peetu> I don't know anything about those :s
[02:17] <Nukeador> In https://shipit.ubuntu.com i read: "Please note that CDs for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS will begin shipping in early June. Once shipping starts, it can take up to 6 weeks for you to receive delivery."
[02:17] <Nukeador> i dont know if that is a pre-request
[02:17] <Nukeador> or sth like that
[02:17] <watson540> peetu: like i said, it might be worth your while to try a different version of the driver, did you use 'apt' to install this driver?
[02:17] <ompaul> peetu, okay do me a favour make sure your box does not have a second onboard video card please - 3 of us with over 30 years FLOSS between us got caught with that 2 weeks ago :-/
[02:18] <Rod> Does the live cd come with gphoto2?
[02:18] <peetu> watson540:  i think yes
[02:18] <ompaul> !ati
[02:18] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:18] <peetu> ompaul lol. Where do you think i would have it ? :D my motherboard doesnt have an integrated video card
[02:18] <ompaul> peetu, did you follow the /BinaryDriverHowto ?
[02:18] <beda> how do i start the console please?
[02:18] <peetu> You can check that from ASUS pages, a8n-e
[02:18] <watson540> peetu: also did you install this with it? linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-686
[02:18] <peetu> ompaul in my opinion yes.
[02:19] <Nukeador> beda, aplicattions - accesories
[02:19] <watson540> err..replace my kernel version with yours on that :)
[02:19] <ompaul> peetu, k
[02:19] <peetu> watson540:  never heard of that :o
[02:19] <watson540> peetu: you need it
[02:19] <beda> i must be blind, thx :)
[02:19] <peetu> Don't tell me thats the proplem
[02:19] <peetu> Omg
[02:19] <watson540> peetu: i dont know if its the problem
[02:19] <Zoroaster> freakabcd, a server
[02:19] <watson540> peetu: but you still need it
[02:19] <almenfors> im about to give up here. when using ndiswrapper with any win-x drvs the machine goes crazy and executes commands several times in a row.(cant type). i get the wifi card up and it says working but no contact with router. and still crazy machine =P
[02:19] <watson540> peetu: do a 'uname -r'
[02:19] <Zoroaster> freakabcd, and sorry, i had to step away fromo my desk
[02:20] <ghozzt> almenfors: which wifi card?
[02:20] <ompaul> peetu, what model is that card?
[02:20] <Zoroaster> is there an FTP that is controllable/configurable from webmin?
[02:20] <watson540> peetu: then apt-get install linux-restricted-modukes-(kernel-version-you-have)
[02:20] <Zoroaster> FTP server that is
[02:20] <peetu> Ill give you the -a version, Linux PEETU 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Fri Apr 28 13:21:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:20] <freakabcd> Zoroaster, vsftpd, proftpd, etc.
[02:20] <freakabcd> theres many to choose from
[02:20] <peetu> ompaul:  x800 gto
[02:21] <watson540> peetu: so the 'apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-686'
[02:21] <kent> is there a way to see what device "0000:01:00.0" is? I cant hibernate my computer and according to the logs that device gives error and cant suspend :(
[02:21] <danm> cya
[02:21] <peetu> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-686
[02:21] <peetu> ?
[02:21] <watson540> ompaul: yah i never thought to check if his card was actuallly COMPATIBLE with the driver :(
[02:21] <rootaccess> ... sry
[02:21] <watson540> peetu: yes, sorry
[02:21] <watson540> im used to running as *censored*
[02:22] <almenfors> ive tried solutions that works on other linux platforms using ndiswrapper but it doesnt seem to work in ubuntu. =(
[02:22] <peetu> :o
[02:22] <peetu> root
[02:22] <peetu> ?
[02:22] <aftertaf> ok, with explore2fs i can access my linux root partition...
[02:22] <ompaul> peetu, no do it as sudo
[02:22] <watson540> huh? where?! :)
[02:22] <peetu> kk
[02:22] <peetu> is it bad to say that root thing in IRC? :D or why did you censore it :D
[02:22] <peetu> *mm*
[02:22] <Zoroaster> freakabcd, thanks for your help
[02:23] <peetu> wow, its bold :O
[02:23] <aftertaf>  anyone know how i can repair my grub or anything?
[02:23] <Ng> aftertaf: repair how?
[02:23] <aftertaf>  repair as in: kernel panic ,no more linux booting :/
[02:23] <wahjava> Hi group, can anybody try this Xlib based tiny program ??
[02:24] <watson540> peetu: *only in some irc clients, is it bold :)*
[02:24] <peetu> watson540:  i think i've got that module thing, cause i cant update ot or anything :o
[02:24] <rendo> Does anyone know where to download the aud-dvd codecs?  Automatix cannot connect to the server that has it apparently and it's affected .wmv files.
[02:24] <ompaul> aftertaf, did you try getting into rescue mode, from grub?
[02:24] <coolrahul> thanks ompaul
[02:24] <coolrahul> relif
[02:24] <coolrahul> u r a angel to me
[02:24] <wahjava> It is not working as expected on my computers but works fine on other users X
[02:24] <watson540> peetu: you do know what an integrated video 'card' is right? its a chip that comes on your motherboard
[02:25] <wahjava> it is a tiny Xlib based application
[02:25] <ompaul> !tell rendo about automatix
[02:25] <Tinsoldat> ok so now I downloaded flight7 of dapper drake as an iso.. but I can't remember the command to mount it so I can burn(copy)
[02:25] <ompaul> rendo READ the message from the bot ubotu
[02:25] <rendo> Automatix didn't work, couldn't connect to that server, I was wonderng if there was anything else that had aud-dvd
[02:25] <peetu> watson540:  ehm, um. is nforce 4 one ?
[02:25] <aftertaf> ompaul: yes. thats how i saw the actual error.
[02:25] <wahjava> Xlib program available here: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.windows.x/browse_thread/thread/bfe8d4e856d6a592
[02:26] <watson540> ompaul: im not sure, if he did a 'lspci' would it show him an integrated video card?
[02:26] <ompaul> rendo, who knows how it failed mixing it with other things tends to cause problems - you could try #ubuntuforums or #automatix if there is such a place
[02:26] <peetu> lets try
[02:26] <ompaul> rendo, its just bad software
[02:26] <rendo> Ah, I'll try this easyubuntu thing.
[02:26] <ompaul> watson540, well lshw seems to show something
[02:26] <watson540> peetu: i think nforce is ound but im not for sure
[02:27] <peetu> it gives
[02:27] <peetu> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5d4f
[02:27] <peetu> that and
[02:27] <peetu> 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5d6f
[02:27] <watson540> hrm
[02:27] <watson540> two different addresses
[02:27] <peetu> What are those exactly ?
[02:28] <watson540> peetu: im wondering if your bios has an option to disable any onboard things such as sound and video
[02:28] <ompaul> peetu, it should only take one address afik
[02:28] <ompaul> peetu, go with watson on that
[02:28] <peetu> afik ?
[02:28] <ompaul> as far as I know
[02:28] <watson540> as far as i know
[02:28] <peetu> oh
[02:28] <peetu> 2x :)
[02:28] <ompaul> peetu, one for each entry
[02:28] <watson540> peetu: you nknow how to get into your bios ?
[02:29] <rendo> None of it works rabble rabble, does anyone know anything besides automatix, the website with the codecs and easyubuntu how to get aud-dvd?
[02:29] <wahjava> anybody running X on AMD64 architecture
[02:29] <glenn> yes
[02:29] <peetu> watson540 well from pressing delete on startup ? :)
[02:29] <ompaul> watson540, maybe we should have a #peetu cos this has gotten rather long in the tooth
[02:29] <watson540> peetu: yes, go in there and disable your onboard video card
[02:29] <peetu> mm #peetu then ?
[02:29] <ompaul> peetu, go for it
[02:29] <watson540> ompaul: haha, yes as i recall i officially gave up on him 45 minutes ago :)
[02:29] <ompaul> watson540, join us
[02:31] <rendo> Gah, I hate this, nothing works. :@
[02:32] <ompaul> rendo you used automatix - all bets are off - it works for some and other people just get told reinstall and don't touch it its not good
[02:32] <X_Billy> Something really weird happened, I tried to use the "make" command in the terminal, but it said that the command not found. I then tried to man it, but there was no entry. Any ideas why this happened?
[02:32] <rendo> It worked last time though.  Does it have anything to do with Firefox 1.5?
[02:33] <ompaul> rendo its automatix faster to reinstall
[02:33] <rendo> *random swearing kicking of animals and stangling of babies*
[02:33] <rendo> I'll be back later after I re-install then. :P
[02:33] <rendo> If I have more problems that is.
[02:35] <lhb> X_Billy: you have build-essential installed?
[02:36] <eXistenZ> Is shipping for 6.06 ubuntu open yet?
[02:37] <wahjava> eXistenZ: shipping will start in June 2006 but u can place orders now
[02:38] <eXistenZ> wahjava, That is, for the final release?
[02:38] <Nukeador> ive read that too
[02:38] <Nukeador> but i dunno
[02:38] <Nukeador> if that is a pre-request
[02:38] <Nukeador> or sth like that
[02:38] <wahjava> eXistenZ: stable release
[02:38] <eXistenZ> nice
[02:38] <eXistenZ> I've just placed a request.
[02:39] <Nukeador> ill wait a little until an official anounce
[02:39] <watson540>  i didnt know you could get a pressed ubuntu cd
[02:45] <xst> My "dapper" update-manager is broken even though I have never touched a thing. The update manager is apparently freezing with the "Preparing..." and the progress indicator. But it never proceeds. When trying to do a manual upgrade with apt-get, I get: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process. What to do?
[02:46] <Balachmar> xst: did you try to use Synaptic package manager to mark all upgrades?
[02:46] <beda> question: can i use an usb-stick with ubuntu?
[02:47] <Balachmar> @beda: yes
[02:47] <Nukeador> yes
[02:47] <beda> how?
[02:47] <Balachmar> @beda: just plug it in
[02:47] <Nukeador> plug it in
[02:47] <watson540> xst: you must kill the process that has the lockfile
[02:47] <watson540> xst: which would probably be apt or dpkg
[02:47] <xst> Balachmar: Actually I used the kubuntu update manager.
[02:47] <Balachmar> it will be mounted automatically and turn up on your desktop
[02:47] <beda> really that easy? ok, i'll try
[02:48] <beda> it works!
[02:48] <beda> :-)
[02:48] <Balachmar> duh :P
[02:48] <Quizzer> what is the package for lcurses or tgetent or setupterm .. tried doing an apt-cache search for those and nothing happened
[02:51] <Balachmar> @Quizzer Don't know tried a search as well nothing turns up, on my dapper system
[02:54] <sambrista> hi! I've got a problem with my optical ps2 mouse. The wheel button doesn't work. I mean, i can scroll up and down and it works but when i push it down, nothing happens. With xev it seems that X doesn't recognize it. Any ideas?
[02:55] <Quizzer> i had found them at one point but for soem reason cant find them now
[02:55] <watson540> sambrista: do you have 'emulate 3 buttons' enabled?
[02:55] <sambrista> yes
[02:55] <sambrista> so when i push left and right at the same time, works like middle
[02:55] <watson540> then just push your right and left mouse button together
[02:56] <sambrista> but i want to use the wheel botton.
[02:56] <watson540> or maybe disable the emulation, but it works fine with me with it enabled
[02:56] <Zoroaster> I have installed vsftpd, and a couple of things are not clear to me:  where is vsftpd.conf, the only one I can find is in /etc but it calls itself a sample file in the comment area    most importantly, where is the default ftp directory?
[02:56] <damian_> is it bad if smoke comes out of my desktop
[02:56] <almenfors> there..i installed ethernet instead and BOM im online
[02:56] <OlliK> sambrista: wheel button is same as the third mouse button
[02:56] <sambrista> with my other mouse (a non-optical one) it worked well
[02:57] <sambrista> OlliK = I've read that it was botton 2
[02:57] <OlliK> sambrista: yes, because the others are button 0 and button 1
[02:57] <Elazar> What would cause an ssh client connection to return this and terminate: "Read from remote host booksxyz.com: Connection reset by peer. Connection to booksxyz.com closed."
[02:58] <Deanodriver> hi
[02:58] <OlliK> hi
[02:58] <sambrista> OlliK = well, anyway, i tried to see if X recognises the botton with "xev" and it doesn't.
[02:58] <damian_> ok its definitely burning now
[02:58] <Deanodriver> if i want to mount a samba share on my computer in fstab, instead of the device it's located (like /dev/hda1), so i do the computer name (like //computer/share)?
[02:59] <Deanodriver> oops
[02:59] <Deanodriver> heh
[02:59] <Bizzy> hey, anyone got an nforce4 motherboard?
[02:59] <Deanodriver> basically, i've moved two hdd's from my desktop to my server, and wanna change fstab accordingly
[02:59] <watson540> Elazar: any number of things the one that comes to mind is that the server was reset
[02:59] <Deanodriver> i know to change type from reiserfs to smbfs
[02:59] <Deanodriver> but what about <file system>?
[03:00] <Deanodriver> samba is set up on the server
[03:00] <Deanodriver> and configured
[03:00] <Elazar> watson540: You mean the SSH server or the physical machine running it?
[03:00] <watson540> Elazar: the server you were connected to via ssh
[03:00] <Elazar> watson540: Regardless, I don't believe either is the case. What other possibilities do you know of?
[03:00] <mike-e_> how do i bind sshd to sit on an off port, instead of 22?
[03:00] <OlliK> Bizzy: I have Nforce4
[03:01] <Bizzy> OlliK: have you managed to get the propriatory sound driver from nvidia to work at all
[03:01] <Bizzy> ?
[03:01] <kindera> #sofia
[03:01] <trukulo> hi ppl
[03:01] <mike-e_> how do i bind sshd to sit on an off port, instead of 22?
[03:02] <OlliK> Bizzy: Actually I have a cheaper Nforce4-board which has the normal AC97 sound card installed instaed of the nvidia's own sound card
[03:02] <OlliK> Bizzy: So I had no problem with that...
[03:02] <watson540> Elazar: bad connection? or maybe you got booted
[03:02] <Bizzy> OlliK: mines the cheapo realtek ac97
[03:02] <Bizzy> just doesnt want to work at all
[03:04] <slackern> Bizzy: I use the onboard nforce2 soundstorm on this machine
[03:04] <mike-e_> ok found the config file, now how do i restart sshd?
[03:04] <beda> why can't i play mp3 files with ubuntu?
[03:04] <Bizzy> ? mp3
[03:04] <thoreauputic> mike-e_: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:04] <slackern> Bizzy: that ran on 5.04, 5.10 and now 6.06 dapper
[03:04] <Bizzy> beda: propriatory format
[03:05] <Bizzy> you need to enable universe and get the stuff for it
[03:05] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[03:05] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:05] <beda> aha, thx
[03:05] <thoreauputic> beda: see ubotu above
[03:05] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:05] <Bizzy> mp3 "is" free for free use
[03:05] <Bizzy> but, when you want to sell what uses mp3, then its non-free
[03:05] <mike-e_> nice
[03:05] <mike-e_> thanks
[03:05] <thoreauputic> Bizzy: free as in beer, not as in speech
[03:06] <Bizzy> free as in beer is free
[03:06] <Bizzy> free as in speach is freedom
[03:06] <OlliK> Bizzy: for me it worked.. AC97 is very common and should work directly in Kubuntu
[03:06] <Bizzy> OlliK: it just refused to notice it without the nvidia stuff
[03:06] <Bizzy> and once i managed to get the driver built
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Bizzy: OK  - well mp3 isn't free as in freedom :)
[03:06] <Bizzy> no sound would work
[03:07] <Bizzy> thoreauputic: no mpeg* is
[03:07] <thoreauputic> right
[03:07] <Bizzy> the major open format (vorbis) is terrible
[03:08] <Bizzy> thats why no one uses it
[03:08] <purserj> what exactly is wrong with vorbis?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> Bizzy: rubbish - it's excellent - the sound is even better than mp3
[03:08] <nyarla> why is it so terrible, bizzy?
[03:08] <OlliK> Vorbis is a good open format
[03:08] <purserj> vorbis gets better compression rates for same or better sound quality
[03:08] <damian_> vorbis is switching to closed source
[03:08] <thoreauputic> theora is good too
[03:09] <damian_> didn't you hear the news
[03:09] <Bizzy> ok, i phrased it wrong
[03:09] <Bizzy> vorbis isnt as good as what else there is
[03:09] <Bizzy> for quality vs file size
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Bizzy: wrong again
[03:09] <OlliK> Bizzy: which one is better?
[03:09] <Bizzy> thoreauputic: i mean in formats in general, not just open ones
[03:10] <OlliK> Bizzy: u mean AAC/MP4?
[03:10] <Bizzy> aac/aac+/mp4 hammers vorbis
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Bizzy: I know what you mean, and you are still wrong :)
[03:10] <LinuxJones> During a fresh install of Ubuntu Is pppoeconf configuration available during the installation and if not will the installation fail without a working internet connection ?
[03:11] <tomasz> hi -> I'm going to update my 5.04 ubuntu directly to 6.06. I know it's still beta, although should be in full release soon. Will it be later possible to seamlessly upgrade beta into the full stable version ? Or maybe I should wait until the stable is redy ?
[03:11] <Bizzy> anyway
[03:11] <gnomefreak> tomasz: no dont
[03:12] <Bizzy> im gonna stop now before i get into trouble and refused support
[03:12] <gnomefreak> tomasz: upgrade to 5.10 first
[03:12] <Bizzy> dapper has XGL support right?
[03:12] <watson540> LinuxJones: i dont know, and no
[03:12] <OlliK> LinuxJones: you must install it
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Bizzy: yes and please refer all dapper questions to #ubuntu+1
[03:12] <thoreauputic> Bizzy: that won't happen - disagreements are OK - you may be right about mp4 etc - i was comparing with mp3 and wma
[03:12] <gnomefreak> tomasz: skipping version sis a great way to mess up your system
[03:13] <tomasz> gnomefreak: Well, I'm going to clear the laptop and install 6.06 from scratch - so it's not an issue
[03:13] <gnomefreak> tomasz: oh ok thats not upgrading than ;)
[03:13] <LinuxJones> watson540, OlliK: so installation shouldl be fine I just have to download pppoeconf beforehand and install it after installation ?
[03:14] <tomasz> gnomefreak: sorry, I'm only asking if it's a good idea to go for 6.06 now (?)
[03:14] <watson540> LinuxJones: i would think that would be ok
[03:14] <LinuxJones> watson540, OlliK: lovely thanks guys
[03:14] <Archville> Hi.
[03:14] <OlliK> LinuxJones: no problem
[03:14] <nyarla> i need some advice, i'd like to setup a recycled pIII into a samba/file server, i'll have no screen so I'll do the administration from the network, using vnc or better. Is ubuntu the distrib of choice for that purpose?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> tomasz: i would wait until the 25th but most of the really bad bugs have been worked out but its still somewhat buggy
[03:15] <Otacon22> what I have to do for mount the parallel port?
[03:16] <tomasz> gnomefreak: ok, but if I do it now, with all the system updates on the way I should catch up exactly to the version released on 25th ?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> tomasz: ye
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ss
[03:17] <bleepy> sa
[03:18] <freakabcd> ok, something is really borked in this xorg-driver update
[03:18] <freakabcd> where do i complain about it? was working, now its not in the new version.
[03:18] <freakabcd> this is ofcourse for breezy
[03:19] <Ng> freakabcd: file a bug on launchpad.net :)
[03:19] <nyarla> i'll stick to bsd, then...
[03:19] <thoreauputic> freakabcd: is this an ati or nvidia driver? Maybe you need to reconfigure it? (just guessing)
[03:19] <freakabcd> lol
[03:20] <freakabcd> it ain;t none of ati, nvidia
[03:20] <thoreauputic> OK
[03:20] <freakabcd> i810 opensource driver.
[03:20] <thoreauputic> just checking
[03:20] <freakabcd> i think the packager just didn;t test the build
[03:20] <freakabcd> cos quite clearly it just shows a floopin bluish green screen of death and won;t even allow me to change to vt!
[03:20] <freakabcd> i have to get in via ssh
[03:21] <megaman123> how can i connect to a remote drive ?
[03:21] <freakabcd> and killing xorg makes no difference. i.e. machine is stuck from local use
[03:21] <freezey> hey i need help settin up this ssh real fast
[03:21] <thoreauputic> freakabcd: I didn't see any info about the type of driver until I asked, so my question was reasonable I think
[03:21] <freezey> can someone help me out
[03:22] <freezey> someone wanna assit me with this SSH real fast i need to get it up quick
[03:22] <freezey> and viagra aint working =o)
[03:22] <freezey> lol
[03:22] <freezey> dam i am funny haha
[03:22] <thoreauputic> freezey: don't repeat please
[03:22] <freezey> u can help?
[03:22] <freezey> or no
[03:23] <edgardpacheco> !FF1.5
[03:23] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:23] <edgardpacheco> !CUPS
[03:23] <ubotu> I heard cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[03:23] <edgardpacheco> !multiverse
[03:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:24] <Archville> !java
[03:24] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:25] <thoreauputic> ping ?
[03:25] <Archville> Uhmm, i installed java using "easyubuntu", but i can't see a java website with firefox...  Did i miss something ?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> Archville: sudo update-alternatives --config java    and pick the new java that you installed
[03:26] <Archville> ok
[03:27] <Archville> There are two options
[03:27] <Archville> One is gij-wrapper-4.1
[03:27] <freezey> can anyone help me out?
[03:27] <Archville> The other one is jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[03:28] <Archville> I should choose the second.  right ?
[03:28] <thoreauputic> Archville: looks like java didn't install right
[03:28] <Archville> :\
[03:28] <thoreauputic> Archville: there should be a sun jre as well
[03:28] <Archville> I'll run easyubuntu again.
[03:28] <Archville> Maybe i did something wrong.
[03:29] <ranpha> hi waht is a good guide to setup a wireless connection with ubuntu??? (using a linksys G card worked on debian sarge)
[03:29] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[03:29] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:29] <freakabcd> where do i find the changelog for debs ?
[03:29] <hajuu_> hey anyone able to help me setup my psybnc?
[03:29] <hajuu_> :D
[03:29] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[03:29] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
 Quick, foolish question. Dapper Drake will work on a ThinkPad T22. It just won't ~install~ on a ThinkPad T22.
[03:29] <bluefoxicy> Cute.
[03:30] <watson540> that is a question??
[03:30] <freakabcd> watson540, do you know where i can lookup the changelog and maintainer info, etc. of a particular package?
[03:31] <Zoroaster> man, sometimes this whole linux thing is frustrating
[03:31] <thoreauputic> freakabcd: packages.ubuntu.com I guess
[03:31] <watson540> freakabcd: last i checked, ubuntu had a site for that
[03:31] <Zoroaster> is there a linux emotional support group somewhere
[03:31] <OlliK> Zoroaster: it used to be more frustrating :)
[03:31] <freezey> ssh?
[03:31] <freakabcd> Zoroaster, emotional support?
[03:31] <tr1gg3r> freakabcd, changelogs r usually available in /usr/share/doc/pkg-name for installed packages
[03:32] <Zoroaster> freakabcd, I'm playing
[03:32] <freezey> !ssh
[03:32] <ubotu> from memory, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[03:32] <freakabcd> playing what?
[03:32] <OlliK> Zoroaster: You should try some older distro like old Red Hat.. and then installing some programs, you will go into so called "dependency-hell" where you need another program because the other is depending on that etc etc, never ending loop
[03:32] <nox-Hand> Hey
[03:32] <Archville> Uhmm, with only "java" enabled on easyubuntu installer... it did nothing.
[03:32] <fblade> hey guys im in a bit of a mess here
[03:32] <nox-Hand> I need some help with usplash =|
[03:32] <Archville> So i suposse i'll have to install it by hand.
[03:32] <OlliK> Zoroaster: Now when we have apt-get, everything is so easy and nice.. just apt-get install and it automatically downloads all dependencies too :)
[03:32] <maximus> d
[03:33] <maximus> as
[03:33] <OlliK> Debian based <3
[03:33] <sladen> !usplash
[03:33] <ubotu> somebody said usplash was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[03:35] <nox-Hand> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto?highlight=%28usplash%29 <-- I have this guide, and I want this >> http://www.sector-42.frih.net/docs/images/test2.png << image as my boot screen, but I want to be sure that I have done the first thing correct (( colours need changing? ))
[03:35] <fblade> i cant fined acme on aptget or synaptic help?
[03:35] <OlliK> fblade: apt-cache search acme
[03:36] <OlliK> fblade: first do apt-get update
[03:36] <Zoroaster> everytime I mess up and ctrl z out of a .conf file I am editing using vi, a temp .swp file gets created
[03:36] <OlliK> fblade: sudo apt-get update | apt-cache search acme
[03:36] <gnomefreak> !info acme
[03:36] <OlliK> fblade: and if it's not still there, and you have the right sources, it's not included in the ubuntu
[03:36] <Zoroaster> I then do a search for *.swp files and delete relative files
[03:36] <Zoroaster> but they wont go away
[03:36] <fblade> thanks ollik
[03:37] <OlliK> fblade: no prob
[03:37] <argpirate> hey does ubuntu include some sort of NFS client tool or browser or something?
[03:37] <OlliK> argpirate: NFS ?
[03:37] <argpirate> netword file service
[03:37] <argpirate> network even
[03:37] <argpirate> shared folders
[03:37] <freezey> can anyone help out with this ssh?
[03:37] <argpirate> across a lan
[03:38] <ic5> argpirate, ya but i think you have to install it. Not to many people use it any more :)
[03:38] <argpirate> ah
[03:38] <argpirate> well
[03:38] <argpirate> what do people use?
[03:38] <surface> did anyone connect O2 Atom with ubuntu before?
[03:38] <argpirate> SMB?
[03:38] <ic5> Samba
[03:38] <argpirate> i see
[03:38] <ic5> ya
[03:38] <gnomefreak> !nfs
[03:38] <ubotu> I guess nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:38] <argpirate> i though samba was just good for windows
[03:39] <ic5> it does both  well
[03:39] <argpirate> ah well i just try samba then
[03:39] <surface> Os atom leh?
[03:39] <fblade> ollik: i cant seem to find acme the way you did anyother ideas
[03:39] <surface> O2 Atom leh?
[03:39] <freakabcd> ok, can someone tell me or point me to a howto about compiling src packages?
[03:40] <surface> freakabcd: ./configure; make; sudo make install
[03:40] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell freakabcd about compile
[03:40] <freakabcd> surface, not really all there is
[03:40] <nox-Hand> brb
[03:40] <OlliK> fblade: let me see...
[03:40] <freakabcd> if i was getting the srcs myself and installing it by hand, why the heck does the deb format exist?
[03:40] <fblade> is there anouther type of menu editor for unbuntu?
[03:40] <surface> freakabcd: vi README or vi INSTALL
[03:40] <cheziyi> hey btw shipit for 6.06 is ready
[03:41] <gnomefreak> freakabcd: for most part yes but depends on what you are building and what you want built into it
[03:41] <freakabcd> please
[03:41] <argpirate> for the vast majority of things you shouldnt need to compile
[03:41] <OlliK> fblade: I just checked from http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:41] <freakabcd> dude, the getting the src deb gets some crazy ass patches, etc. and i want to make a deb outof it too.
[03:41] <gnomefreak> freakabcd: if you read ./configure --help  it will give you things you can build into it
[03:41] <OlliK> fblade: It seems there is not any package that says acme.. what is this acme anyway?
[03:41] <freakabcd> so its not just configure,make,make install
[03:42] <gnomefreak> freakabcd: instead of make install use checkinstall
[03:42] <fblade> ollik: i cant seem to find acme the way you did anyother ideas
[03:42] <surface> freakabcd: not really understand? wat pkgs u wanna install?
[03:42] <fblade> ollik: sorry wrong button lol
[03:42] <freakabcd> xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[03:42] <freakabcd> with my own patch applied!
[03:42] <surface> no one have experience with O2 Atom with ubuntu?
[03:43] <fblade> ollik: i got told that acme was a menu editor for ubuntu but i havnt ever heard of it
[03:43] <freakabcd> as in i want to get the latest src deb, then apply my patch and generate a binary deb for distro to people with same h/w as me and having thr same problem
[03:43] <ranpha> My wireless network card can't find my AP it's says invalid...how can i scan for the network iwlist scan doesn't work
[03:43] <gnomefreak> fblade: are you sure you dont mean alacarte?
[03:43] <surface> freakabcd: haha no idea, never did tat before
[03:43] <OlliK> fblade: If it's a some kind of menu editor, the package might be already installed.. but it should still be found in the apt-cache search.. maybe it is typed wrong ?
[03:43] <freakabcd> see!
[03:44] <OlliK> fblade: are you sure it was "acme" ?
[03:44] <freezey> i really need help with this SSH can someone help me out please
[03:44] <freakabcd> as i said not so simple as regulr installing from tarball
[03:44] <hajuu_> Just a thought
[03:44] <Quizzer> freezey : what you need done to ssh
[03:44] <freezey> quizzer: i need it setup
[03:44] <freezey> quizzer: i am tring to start it but it keeps failing
[03:44] <freezey> quizzer: i know i gotta set it up somehow just never have
[03:45] <freezey> quizzer: i need it done fast
[03:45] <fblade> ollik: yeah they said it was acme, but as you say i doubt they were  wrong
[03:45] <surface> how to communicate to pocket pc through usb?
[03:45] <freezey> quizzer: just a basic setup nothing special
[03:45] <surface> me lsusb
[03:45] <surface> i get this
[03:45] <OlliK> fblade: yap
[03:45] <freezey> quizzer: just so its up and running and someone can login from a remote machine
[03:45] <surface> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0408:f003 Quanta Computer, Inc.
[03:46] <cadr> hi, i have a problem with server processes binding to ports. if i try to start up a webserver on my local machine (say, the turbogears test server), the process can't bind to a port. any idea what might be causing this?
[03:46] <fblade> ollik: do you know of another menu editor
[03:46] <Quizzer> look at your sshd_config file in /etc/ssh
[03:46] <gnomefreak> fblade: alacarte
[03:47] <freezey> quizzer: ok?
[03:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fblade -about alacarte
[03:47] <freezey> quizzer: yeah?
[03:48] <Quizzer> freezey : very useful guide .. for setting up sshd http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#SSH_Server
[03:48] <Balachmar> !ssh
[03:48] <ubotu> ssh is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[03:48] <Balachmar> or those :P
[03:48] <OlliK> Alacarte is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME that can add and edit new entries and menus. It works with the freedesktop.org menu specification and should work with any desktop environment that uses the spec.
[03:49] <ranpha> How can i force my card to scan for networks
[03:49] <intelikey> anybody know howto make the windows keys function like alt< and alt>   ?
[03:49] <green_earz> freezey: can you log into ssh locally   " ssh user-name@localhost "  ?
[03:49] <intelikey> console i should mention
[03:50] <freezey> green_earz: na i don;t even have it running
[03:50] <freezey> green_earz: when i try to run it it says failed
[03:50] <hejux> hi , can i use ubuntu without gnome ?
[03:50] <intelikey> hehhe ssh `whoami` localhost
[03:50] <freezey> green_earz: i need to set it up so someone outside can login
[03:51] <freezey> green_earz: i didn;t configure nething
[03:51] <intelikey> hejux sure.
[03:51] <hejux> can i install ubuntu through network? and i can  to install what i want  ?
[03:51] <green_earz> freezey:  to reinstall ssh use the command   "  sudo apt-get install --reinstall ssh "
[03:51] <freezey> quizzer: that tells me howto copy files
[03:51] <freezey> green_earz: why am i reinstalling it?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> !betinstall
[03:51] <ubotu> gnomefreak: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:52] <gnomefreak> !netinstall
[03:52] <ubotu> somebody said netinstall was To install Ubuntu via the net, try here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75372 ... Breezy netboot CD image: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[03:52] <intelikey> hejux http://ubuntu.com
[03:52] <freezey> green_earz: ok reinstalled
[03:52] <freezey> still failed
[03:52] <freezey> to start
[03:53] <green_earz> freezey: when the ssh is install it asks if you want the run a ssh demon, answer yes the that question
[03:53] <freezey> didn;t ask me that
[03:53] <freezey> green_earz: didn;t ask me that
[03:54] <freezey> ok now its on
[03:54] <intelikey>   someone,   know howto make the windows keys function like alt< and alt> in the console (like they should naturally)  ?
[03:54] <freezey> green_earz: now its on
[03:54] <freezey> green_earz: now how can someone connect remotely
 hi , is dapper stable for common users ?
[03:54] <freezey> green_earz: do i have to setup a username:
[03:55] <freezey> green_earz: do i have to setup a username?
[03:55] <Apostle^> how do i get kbluetoothd on ubuntu breezy?
[03:55] <almenfors> back again. now i wonder how to get my 2 other hd working in ubuntu ?
[03:55] <watson540> almenfors: mount them
[03:55] <Apostle^> how do i get kbluetoothd on ubuntu breezy?
[03:55] <green_earz> freezey: ok, sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[03:56] <freezey> green_earz: ok it said ok
[03:56] <green_earz> freezey:  no ssh uses the user name of a account holder
[03:57] <intelikey> freezey yeah they have to have an account to log into.     you can sudo useradd <name>
[03:57] <almenfors> 
[03:57] <watson540> almenfors: please no private messages, post in here where more people here see you and therefore can help
[03:57] <freezey> green_earz: so say i wanna login from my other linux box how do i do it when i create the username
[03:57] <watson540> almenfors: how you do it depends on the type of file system that is on the hard drives
[03:58] <intelikey> freezey you already have an account.
[03:58] <green_earz> freezey: now login to ssh locally to see if its working ok , "  ssh your-user-name@localhost "
[03:58] <Zoroaster> can someone tell me how you view a directory's attributes?
[03:58] <intelikey> from the other box   ssh freezey@<ip or hostname>
[03:58] <Zoroaster> what is the command?
[03:59] <intelikey> Zoroaster ls -l
[03:59] <almenfors> watson540, well i got one with ntfs running on it. can keep that or do i need to change? the other one is blank. im going to use both for ftp.
[03:59] <intelikey> add d to only view dirs
[03:59] <intelikey> Zoroaster ls -ld
[03:59] <alpopel> hi
[03:59] <Apostle^> how do i get kbluetoothd on ubuntu breezy?
[04:00] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: install kbluetoothd or install kubuntu-desktop
[04:00] <spectie> hi
[04:00] <spectie> which package is the xfs kernel module in
[04:00] <spectie> in dapper drake
[04:01] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: the k stands for kde
[04:01] <Apostle^> gnomefreak, i can't find it if i apt-cache search
[04:01] <gnomefreak> spectie: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[04:01] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: hold on a sec
[04:01] <Apostle^> gnomefreak, i can find kubuntu-desktop though
[04:01] <spectie> thanks!
[04:01] <intelikey> spectie apt-cache search xfs | less
[04:01] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: enable universe and multiverse repos
[04:01] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, Do you know whether a current request of ubuntu cds in shipit is for the 6.06 or 5.10?
[04:02] <gnomefreak> 6.06
[04:02] <Apostle^> gnomefreak, i have them i believe
[04:02] <Zoroaster> when I look at a directory, it says the owner is root
[04:02] <Zoroaster> nevermind
[04:02] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin you dont have either if you cant find that package you might have enabled the backports by mistake
[04:03] <HAMLET> hi
[04:03] <HAMLET> good morning
[04:04] <peetu> watson540 now i got direct rendering to yes :D
[04:04] <Apostle^> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/724588
[04:04] <wasp_ems> hi is there anyone who can help me set up ktorrent?cause i get an error when i try and download something
[04:05] <cadr> hi, i have a problem with server processes binding to ports. if i try to start up a webserver on my local machine (say, the turbogears test server), the process can't bind to a port. any idea what might be causing this?
[04:05] <almenfors> How do i mount a hd? =P
[04:05] <HAMLET> HI COLEGA 75 YOU ARE ODIOSO
[04:05] <void^> cadr: trying a port <1024?
[04:05] <intelikey> Zoroaster only the inodes in /home should be owned by user accounts (default)  it's safe to  chown `whoami`:`whoami` ~ -R   <--- own your home.
[04:05] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: type sudo apt-get update
[04:05] <peetu> ompaul:  you there?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> HAMLET: english in here please
[04:06] <cadr> void: no, any port, it's the same
[04:06] <guest> hello
[04:06] <elcolega75> epale!!
[04:06] <Apostle^> gnomefreak, nope ...
[04:06] <fblade> is there a flash alternative for linux
[04:06] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: nope what?
[04:06] <gnomefreak> fblade: theres flash for linux
[04:06] <gnomefreak> !flash
[04:06] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:06] <Apostle^> gnomefreak, still cant find kbluetoothd
[04:06] <elcolega75> saludos a todos!!!
[04:07] <HAMLET> hello every people
[04:07] <green_earz> wasp_ems: i use bittornado-gui.   are you behind a router ? and if so have you setup port forwarding
[04:07] <gnomefreak> !es
[04:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:07] <trueno> hola
[04:07] <fblade> gnomefreak: i dont mean flash player, i mean flash developer
[04:07] <gnomefreak> fblade: i dont know than
[04:07] <omy> hola
[04:07] <peetu> OH MY GOD
[04:07] <omy> hola
[04:07] <Tiffany> hi
[04:07] <peetu> I got wow running perfectly :O
[04:07] <rdnigaa> jue
[04:07] <Adrianna> hi
[04:07] <fblade> gnomefreak: no problem then mate
[04:07] <Adrianna> Wtf tiffany
[04:07] <omy> hola chicos
[04:07] <paradise> hi adrianna
[04:07] <Adrianna> stupid bish u wanna start someething?
[04:08] <Tiffany> what adrianna
[04:08] <Zoroaster> intelikey, my problem is that I have installed and vsftpd, and its running, I changed the .conf to disable anon access because I, the single local cuser called administrator will be the only one that need to transfer files to this ftp server, but I can't log in
[04:08] <Tiffany> wanna fight
[04:08] <Adrianna> come on tiff yes let fight
[04:08] <Apostle^> gnomefreak, i really need kbluetoothd
[04:08] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: hold on a sec
[04:09] <Zoroaster> intelikey, the only thing I know is that a directory called "ftp" exists on my home drive, but when I browse to the ftp server from my windows machine, I cannot login
[04:09] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: kdebluetooth
[04:09] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: there is no package named kbluetoothd
[04:10] <intelikey> Zoroaster you did  'man vsftpd '  didn't you?   i've never set it up.  but the manual page is the place to start.
[04:10] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: you just want to set up bluetooth?
[04:10] <Apostle^> gnomefreak, but i remember kbluetoothd is the program to run
[04:10] <Apostle^> gnomefreak, yes
[04:10] <gnomefreak> ompaul: ping?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: apt-cache search bluetooth | less
[04:11] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: that will list all bluetooth apps for you
[04:11] <skript> i want to use ubuntu as a server with command line only.... can i safely remove GNOME along with all the x-based/gnome apps ?
[04:11] <Apostle^> gnomefreak, that had kbluetoothd in it thanks
[04:11] <edgardpacheco> !universe
[04:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:11] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: you on breezy?
[04:11] <to> hii
[04:11] <Apostle^> gnomefreak, yes
[04:12] <visik7> skript: install base
[04:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell edgardpacheco about msg the bot
[04:12] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: thats why ok
[04:12] <loki> ok i just burned a cd and it saye it was successful but when i put it in my cd player it made weird noise like a static noise on every track
[04:12] <osotogari> does anyone know if there is a dedicated Firestarter IRC channel?
[04:12] <almenfors> what kind ftp server would u guys recomend?
[04:12] <loki> what do i do
[04:13] <skript> visik7: install base = no gnome ? great... should've read some basic help before installing ;)
[04:13] <Archville> visik7,  there is a base-only installation for Ubuntu ?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> osotogari: not that i know of
[04:13] <to> do you know what's the software ubuntu website has been developped?
[04:13] <Archville> !install base
[04:13] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Archville
[04:13] <Samuli^> archville, yes, server.
[04:13] <visik7> Archville: when you put ubuntu cd in the drive you can choose to install a basic system
[04:13] <osotogari> @ gnomefreak: Ok cool. Having a problem here with my Firewall settings
[04:14] <Archville> visik7,  also on Dapper ?
[04:14] <visik7> skript: I mean reinstall with a base sistem
[04:14] <visik7> Archville: not try but quite sure
[04:14] <gnomefreak> Archville: yes
[04:14] <Archville>  Will base install wifi drivers ?
[04:14] <gnomefreak> if installing breezy you have to type server if dapper there is a menu
[04:14] <skon> is there an option in ssh to keep the connection alive
[04:14] <skript> visik7: right.. reinstall... i'm using dapper cd, and there were only 'install to hard disk' and 'install oem' options... no base option...
[04:14] <Archville> Or better...  is there a list for the base install packages ?
[04:15] <visik7> skript: let me se
[04:15] <visik7> oh I don't have a dapper cd
[04:15] <visik7> here
[04:15] <nox-Hand> How would I create a zip file in cli? I want a folder ~/Media/*.mp3 in a zip file with the zip command, but I know not how ^^
[04:16] <gnomefreak> nox-Hand: gzip file.zip i think you might wantt o read man pages on zip and gzip
[04:17] <nox-Hand> gnomefreak, thanks
[04:17] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:17] <osotogari> is there much benefit to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy?
[04:17] <green_earz> skript: you could strip the install down the a command line install only but its a messy way. or you could use the debian net installer which is only 110 meg to start the install the rest of the install for the base is over the net, for a fresh install but debian
[04:18] <PCGenie> Is there no Emac application installed for Ubuntu Breezy Badger?, i mean the editor?
[04:18] <thoreauputic> !info emacs21
[04:18] <ubotu> emacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 5908 kB
[04:18] <thoreauputic> PCGenie: install emacs221
[04:18] <thoreauputic> oops
[04:18] <thoreauputic> emacs21
[04:19] <freezey> MAD CONFUSED!
[04:19] <freezey> howcome when i su the command
[04:19] <eXistenZ> PCGenie, we don't support emacs, only VIM!
[04:19] <freezey> when i try so su
[04:19] <freezey> it says i can't get in
[04:19] <freezey> i never set a rootpasswd with ubuntu
[04:19] <thoreauputic> !tell freezey about root
[04:19] <Bizzy> ok
[04:19] <Bizzy> nm
[04:20] <dracflamloc> does anyone here have a gateway mx3215?
[04:20] <variant> anyone know where i can a log that shows compile errors? if there is one by default that is, kernel compile
[04:20] <green_earz> freezey:  sudo -s  for root access
[04:20] <PCGenie> I was just vondering, because i was able to install the Emac editor in a prevoius version of Ubuntu via Synaptic
[04:20] <variant> s/a log/find a log
[04:20] <freezey> yeah i know that
[04:20] <freezey> but this guy is remotin into my ssh
[04:20] <freezey> and he can't su any commands
[04:20] <variant> freezey: sudo
[04:21] <freezey> variant: he is gonn ahave to sudo everything
[04:21] <variant> freezey: sudo su -
[04:21] <karthiK> i need help regarding making my serial mouse work in ubuntu 5.10 live version
[04:22] <green_earz> freezey: add that use to the sudo config file, to add a user to the sudo file use the command " visudo "
[04:22] <almenfors> when i open device manager. and find my 2o other drives. i cant do anything with them..
[04:22] <visik7> does dapper has a decent way to authenticate via wireless without install and configure wpa_supplicant by hand ?
[04:22] <freezey> green_earz: yeah thanks i got it bro good looks
[04:22] <almenfors> disk manager*
[04:22] <freezey> green_earz: he is used to slackware
[04:22] <Hobbsee> !tell visik7 about wpa
[04:22] <Hobbsee> visik7: network-manager-gnoem
[04:22] <freezey> green_earz: so he didn;t like the whole sudo thing
[04:22] <Hobbsee> visik7: network-manager-gnome
[04:23] <visik7> and it can handle also 8021X ?
[04:23] <visik7> I mean
[04:23] <visik7> it is based on wpa_supplicant ?
[04:24] <skript> visik7: concerning the base only install.... it turns out i have to just type 'server' at boot prompt when installing....
[04:24] <visik7> skript: good for you
[04:24] <visik7> skript: btw I don't use ubuntu on server production machine
[04:25] <skript> visik7: right... it's just for my own/home use ;)
[04:25] <Most_Wanted> :.
[04:25] <Most_Wanted> :>
[04:25] <skript> visik7: oh...btw.. what do you use for production then ?
[04:25] <visik7> skript: debian
[04:26] <skript> visik7: ok... i'll keep that in mind ;)
[04:26] <visik7> :)
[04:26] <green_earz> freezey: sudo is a very handy tool for admin a system. you use sudo to do a root task and then you are back as a stardard user. running around a system as su can be very unsafe with the su power
[04:26] <visik7> (also for home server machine)
[04:27] <td-work> ok, they just need to release dapper now...damn it
[04:27] <green_earz> skript: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
[04:28] <skript> green_earz: thanks...
[04:28] <green_earz> np
[04:28] <Most_Wanted> debian green_earz?
[04:29] <green_earz> Most_Wanted: yes i am  a apt-getable person
[04:29] <maple_> I'm running dapper and everything is great, except if I run anything but gnome or kde then i get sub-pixel hinting turned on. While i do have a laptop it looks like crap (too much color). I even started gnome-settings-daemon and made sure "best shapes" was chosen in the fonts section. any ideas how do manually control this in X? fonts.conf or somehting?
[04:31] <morbidhunger> ahhhhhhhhh
[04:32] <morbidhunger> firefox wont work
[04:32] <maple_> morbidhunger, well that makes it easy for us to fix when you give so much info
[04:33] <rencrash> lol
[04:33] <morbidhunger> ab\\\\\\\\\\\heh
[04:33] <morbidhunger> heh**
[04:33] <morbidhunger> im kinda in a hurry for school anyways
[04:33] <maple_> school sucks
[04:33] <morbidhunger> all it does is say its starting it, and than that goes away and than nothing happens
[04:34] <maple_> try running from console?
[04:34] <maple_> or terminal i mean
[04:34] <morbidhunger> ugh. my comp is being so gay
[04:34] <morbidhunger> ill just go to school
[04:34] <rpi> I have a problem with dapper (beta2). After booting my network works fine, for only a second or 10. I don't have this problem under breezy, and when i boot from the dapper live cd, i don't have this problem either... anybody got some idea what ik might be?
[04:35] <harry> hi
[04:35] <harry> wie bekomme ich ein mpg unter totem zum laufen?
[04:35] <thoreauputic> !de
[04:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:36] <bleepy> jo harry join #ubuntu-de
[04:36] <maple> clear
[04:36] <bleepy> da ist der deutsche support fr ubunut
[04:36] <maple> err
[04:36] <harry> #ubunutu-de
[04:36] <bleepy> sorry for german talk
[04:36] <almenfors> i still cant fingure out this mounting thing lol..my old windows brain cant hadle this lol
[04:36] <bleepy> harry /j #ubuntu-de
[04:36] <ranpha> i have a problem with connecting a PC-card wirless G to a etwork i have everthing open but nothing works (i use 6.06 dapper)
[04:36] <maple> almenfors, what do you mean?
[04:37] <maple> ranpha, are you getting an address
[04:37] <almenfors> maple, well i got 2 drives i want to be able to use as well. i see them in disk manager but have no clue on how to get them operational
[04:38] <harry> please tell me how to play an mpg under totem.
[04:38] <jesy15> ola
[04:38] <maple> harry, search. that info is everywhere
[04:38] <karthiK> can anyone help me regarding ..how to run my serial mouse in 5.10 live version
[04:38] <thoreauputic> harry:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:39] <maple> almenfors, you need to add them to the /etc/fstab
[04:39] <almenfors> maple, uhu?
[04:39] <maple> almenfors, in the terminal do `man fstab` and read that. are they windows partitions or what
[04:39] <almenfors> maple, i installed ubuntu yesterday, its my first time on linux platform =)
[04:40] <almenfors> maple, one was used in windows the other one is blank
[04:41] <ranpha> maple: no  i don't get anything..not even a scan of my network
[04:41] <almenfors> maple, thanks for the help ill do some  trial and error from the terminal window =O)
[04:41] <Most_Wanted> netsplit \o/
[04:41] <fblade> argghhh help me guys, about 5/10 mins after switchting ubuntu on it locks up on me
[04:41] <fblade> any ideas
[04:42] <tech_9> lol
[04:42] <rem_> .
[04:42] <watson540> almenfors: in the terminal: mount -t ntfs /dev/(drive) /media/(dir)
[04:42] <Most_Wanted> rofl
[04:42] <ranpha> maple: no  i don't get anything..not even a scan of my network
[04:42] <rpi> Does anybody know why my network functions perfectly well under breezy and the dapper live cd (beta2), but stops working about 10 seconds after boot under an installed dapper installation?
[04:42] <Mahmoud85> fblade : locks up ?
[04:42] <fblade> crashes
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> fblade,  boot to just the console - and see if it still locks up.
[04:43] <beef> that was one hell of a netsplit right there :|
[04:43] <tech_9> guys i need help....i have ubuntu fully installed, but I can't log in, because whenever I have the "create account" screen during installation, it gives an "error line 1" or something like that, and won't create the account, and it also tells me I can't log into the root account from the login screen that always boots
[04:43] <fblade> oki
[04:43] <fblade> okay will try
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> fblade,  that would allow you to prove if its a X issue.. or some other issue.
[04:43] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: was freenode supposed to ban those IP's?
[04:43] <fblade> okay will try soon mate
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> fblade,  also could try sshing in when it 'locks' up to see how locked up it is
[04:43] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: i dont think so
[04:43] <snowfaked> beef: yep, i just added html tags to it :)
[04:43] <watson540> tech_9: ubuntu sets a random password for root by default
[04:43] <beef> snowfaked: good move :)
[04:43] <gnomefreak> im looking at it now trying to clean out my list
[04:43] <Archville>  How do i modify the programs that Ubuntu runs at startup ?
[04:44] <tech_9> but how do i log in?
[04:44] <Archville> I don't want Gnome at all when the system starts.
[04:44] <fblade> sshing?
[04:44] <Zoroaster> what is a good ftp client?
[04:44] <cafuego> Archville: Settings -> Session
[04:44] <Archville> Also i don't want the "Ubuntu" logo.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Archville,  what do you want to start then?
[04:44] <fblade> sorry im a bit of noob never heard of sshing
[04:44] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: do you have voice in #freenode?
[04:44] <Archville> Dr_Willis, just the console.
[04:44] <watson540> tech_9: most likely you will need to boot from a live cd
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Archville,  disable the gdm service then.
[04:44] <cafuego> Archville: Simply disable gdm.
[04:44] <tech_9> every time i want to use it?
[04:44] <rem_> hmm i guess you can do it in X too .. :P
[04:44] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: i do now...
[04:44] <Archville> Dr_Willis, i tried, but when i boot it is again at the services list.
[04:44] <green_earz> rpi:  could be the wrong module installed for the ether card ???  to find out what the module is for the ether card go to the link > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> fblade,  ssh into the box from another machine. :P but thats proberly all greek to you.
[04:45] <watson540> tech_9: then mount your linux drive under /mnt/sysimage the chroot /mnt/sysimage
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Archville,  how are you disabling it?
[04:45] <fblade> yeah it is
[04:45] <rem_> just open another terminal (CTRL,ALT,F2) ..
[04:45] <Archville> I use System / Administer / Services
[04:45] <Archville> Inside Gnome
[04:45] <tech_9> *blink* i have no idea what you just said...its my first time actually using linux.
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Archville,  gee.. never heard of that one. :P
[04:45] <rem_> brb
[04:45] <ranpha> i have a problem with connecting a PC-card wirless G to a etwork i have everthing open but nothing works (i use 6.06 dapper)
[04:45] <almenfors> maple, does it matter what im gonna use the drives for? im planning to use them for my ftp storage.
[04:45] <watson540> tech_9: you will need to hit up a web page bro, its too 'in depth' to go into here :)
[04:46] <rpi> green_earz: thanks, i will check that... it's still strange that i don't have that problem booting from the live cd
[04:46] <tech_9> ok......any reason in particular that there is an error each time the installation wants to create a user account?  or is that a related issue somehow?
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Archville,  i just disable the link in the /etc/rc2.d  named  S13gdm
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> well i delete that link. :P but im hard core.
[04:46] <karthiK> exit
[04:47] <Most_Wanted> rofl
[04:47] <Archville> Nice, i prefer editing files manually.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Archville,  read up on how the SysV init system works. :P
[04:47] <Archville> But... i didn't know exactly what runlevel Ubuntu starts.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> its... interesting
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Archville,  yea.. i THINK its 2.
[04:47] <Archville> Thank you, i'll try. :)
[04:47] <freezey> let me ask u sumthin is there a way i can enbable root access
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> or use some sysv init system tool and remove gdm from all the run levels.
[04:48] <freezey> instead of using sudo -s
[04:48] <cafuego> Archville: 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove' is the proper way.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> freezey,  yes. :P
[04:48] <watson540> tech9: try this - http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/emergency/lostrootpassword.htm
[04:48] <tech_9> thanks
[04:48] <freezey> dr_willis: how
[04:48] <Archville> cafuego,  what's the difference about doing it that way and editing the rc2.d ?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> freezey,  sudo passwd    Logical eh?
[04:49] <cafuego> Archville: This way the system knows you removed the link.
[04:49] <freezey> dr_willis: highly
[04:49] <watson540> tech9: and this - http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Reset_a_Lost_Root_Password
[04:49] <cafuego> Archville: (and it will also do it in other runlevels)
[04:49] <Archville> Ahmuck, nice. :)
[04:49] <Archville> (ops, autocompletion)
[04:49] <^Spear> lo
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> freezey,  of course learning the proper way and using a good habbit is best.
[04:49] <watson540> tech9: and this - http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=lost+root+password&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[04:49] <^Spear> hm, ok -- does anyone have an ipaq?
[04:50] <tech_9> alright, thanks
[04:50] <tech_9> safari huh?  my hated enemy browser...:p
[04:50] <tech_9> alright, im out, thansk for the help
[04:51] <^Spear> does anyone have any idea how to mount an hp ipaq pda
[04:51] <^Spear> without synce?
[04:51] <Reon> I just installed the ubuntu desktop. Now i'm in two minds again
[04:52] <larry52> I'm looking for a program called miskin does anyone know where to find it?  I did a Google but nothing
[04:53] <beda> question: how do i install downloaded .deb packages?
[04:54] <beda> and where should i save them?
[04:54] <beda> to which folder?
[04:54] <karthiK> i need help regarding...using serial mouse on 5.10  live version...plz specify the complete procedure
[04:55] <Samuli^> beda, it doesn't matter where you save them, but better to download them somewhere in your /home
[04:55] <Samuli^> beda, and to install sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[04:56] <beda> thx
[04:56] <Samuli^> beda, there's also a graphical installer named gdebi.
[04:56] <secureboot> is there anything like base-config (which is in Debian) under ubuntu, to set up a basic system, installed with debootstrap?
[04:57] <Samuli^> secureboot, try 'server'
[04:58] <duda> hello, my winkey (better: linkey) isnt working. does anyone knows how to fix it?
[04:58] <secureboot> Samuli^: i don't see a package named that
[04:58] <freezey> can i switch to another user through the terminal?
[04:59] <Ng> freezey: su someusername
[04:59] <Samuli^> secureboot, I mean when you put in the install-cd you can type 'server' to have server-install (which is basic system and no gdm/kdm/xdm)
[04:59] <secureboot> basically, I've set up a system by debootstrap ./dir dapper, and i've booted into it with Xen, and i need to set up things (like users, etc)
[04:59] <secureboot> under debian, i just run the base-config command
[04:59] <Samuli^> oh. O-kay.
[04:59] <secureboot> but ubuntu seems to have gotten rid of it
[05:00] <Samuli^> secureboot,  apt-cache search base-config
[05:00] <Samuli^> base-config - Debian base system configurator (transitional version)
[05:00] <Most_Wanted> hm
[05:00] <secureboot> ah, it's in universe
[05:01] <parrilla> hola
[05:01] <secureboot> hopefully, it'll set things up in an Ubuntu way (no root user)
[05:01] <parrilla> hola
[05:01] <^Spear> :0
[05:01] <parrilla> hola
[05:01] <parrilla> el bara a la mierda
[05:01] <^Spear> is it possible that I can mount an hp ipaq 1945 to send and receive files
[05:01] <^Spear> like a flash memory stick
[05:01] <^Spear> ?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> parrilla: #ubuntu-es
[05:02] <duda> secureboot, you can also set a password for root and live like in debian :)
[05:02] <Ng> ^Spear: don't think so unfortunately
[05:02] <^Spear> really? :(
[05:02] <secureboot> duda: ack - if i wanted that, i'd just install debian :)
[05:02] <duda> hello, my winkey (better: linkey) isnt working. does anyone knows how to fix it?
[05:02] <duda> secureboot, hehehe. yes, and how needs base-config? :P
[05:03] <duda> who needs...
[05:03] <secureboot> great - base-config won't even install
[05:03] <Archville> !smtp
[05:03] <ubotu> Archville: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:03] <Samuli^> secureboot, how come?
[05:03] <lucasvo> what do you think of: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuJournal ??
[05:03] <Archville> Uhmm
[05:03] <Archville> !pop3
[05:03] <ubotu> Archville: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:04] <eva_> hi
[05:04] <secureboot> Samuli^: you can see the error in #paste
[05:04] <duda> i want my winkey!!! it controls my amarok :P
[05:04] <eva_> how are you
[05:04] <duda> but isnt working
[05:04] <Samuli^> secureboot, paste it again
[05:04] <^Spear> ng: its the only problem ive had with ubuntu dapper s
[05:05] <^Spear> ng: desperate to be able to copy files between laptop and pda
[05:05] <^Spear> ng: hm
[05:05] <Ng> ^Spear: you might be able to get somewhere with SynCE, but the last time I tried it, it was a serious pain to use
[05:05] <^Spear> ng: ive tried synce
[05:05] <^Spear> ng: it doesnt work with dapper on my model pda afaik - i get unspecified errors
[05:05] <Ng> ah
[05:06] <secureboot> Samuli^: there - repasted in the proper ubuntu pastebin
[05:06] <^Spear> ng: spent a few days trawling though the www for a solution
[05:06] <Ng> ^Spear: does the PDA have wifi? you could get it on the network and use ftp, or maybe if it has bluetooth you could use obex
[05:06] <^Spear> nope, only bluetooth
[05:06] <^Spear> ng: there was one answer ;)
[05:07] <Ng> ^Spear: well you can do file transfers over bluetooth usually
[05:07] <^Spear> ng: win xp :/
[05:07] <S0me1> Hi guys
[05:07] <^Spear> ng: well, bluetooth manager is unresponsive atm
[05:07] <ompaul> !dapper
[05:07] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[05:07] <^Spear> ng: it loads and i can see my pda, but ive no idea how to interact with it from the bt manager
[05:07] <^Spear> lol ok
[05:07] <Samuli^> secureboot, give the url for that.
[05:08] <secureboot> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14216
[05:08] <Samuli^> secureboot, it worked for me by the way
[05:08] <bryan102985> can anyone tell me how to install applications like limewire or Java in ubuntu
[05:08] <secureboot> darn.
[05:08] <Samuli^> I simulated the apt-get install base-config and got no errors.
[05:09] <S0me1> I don't know why ubuntu not support some drivers? like intel wireless
[05:09] <Trackilizer> cu
[05:09] <^Spear> intel wireless is supported
[05:09] <edgardpacheco> !CUPS
[05:09] <ubotu> somebody said cups was The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[05:09] <cheziyi> S0me1, yea, like wat Spear said
[05:09] <^Spear> i am talking to you now wirelessly
[05:09] <Samuli^> secureboot, try sudo apt-get install -f
[05:10] <Ng> !tell bryan102985 about restrictedformats
[05:10] <Samuli^> you have a broken package there.
[05:10] <^Spear> i have a thinkpad r50e laptop with an intel wireless card
[05:10] <Ng> bryan102985: the url ubotu just sent you contains insttructions for installing Sun java
[05:10] <cheziyi> yea, same as ^Spear, i have a acer 3200 on a intel 2200 wireless card now
[05:10] <Zoroaster> I need a reccomendation, what is a good ftp client?
[05:10] <S0me1> ^Spear: i know that,but not all IPW3945 dose not supported
[05:10] <n3uromancer> lo boys!
[05:10] <Samuli^> to install sun-java all you need to do is sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[05:10] <Samuli^> or java-5-sdk
[05:10] <n3uromancer> q. how can I migrate from debian-etch to ubuntu
[05:10] <n3uromancer> ?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: not in breezy
[05:11] <Samuli^> gnomefreak, no?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> n3uromancer: dont its not safe
[05:11] <n3uromancer> there is some howto
[05:11] <Ng> Zoroaster: gftp is ok
[05:11] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: no only dapper has it in repos
[05:11] <cheziyi> Zoroaster, filezilla is good too
[05:11] <Samuli^> gnomefreak, that's not nice.
[05:11] <n3uromancer> gnomefreak: there is some guideline?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: they have to add Seveas repo to do that
[05:11] <secureboot> Samuli^: when i try to apt-get install base-config, it's even worse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14218
[05:11] <S0me1> As i know dapper is beta !
[05:11] <gnomefreak> n3uromancer: the packages/libraries are too different they dont mix well
[05:12] <Samuli^> secureboot, I thought that was what you wanted.
[05:12] <Seveas> n3uromancer, sarge  dapper may be possible, but etch  ubuntu is practically impossible
[05:12] <Zoroaster> I like filezilla, the name sounds good
[05:12] <secureboot> Samuli^: i just want to set up my ubuntu system basically, the way base-config does for debian
[05:12] <MiikaK> Hi, is there anyone who can help me with sounds (soundcard) ..  i can't hear any sounds now
[05:13] <^Spear> its complicated :/
[05:13] <Archville> !sound
[05:13] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:13] <MiikaK> !sound
[05:13] <MiikaK> ?
[05:13] <Kr0ntab> good mornin
[05:13] <Archville> Yes, read there.
[05:13] <cheziyi> Zoroaster, yea, its very good, and its graphical
[05:13] <n3uromancer> gnomefreak, Seveas: I have to drop away etch, keeping config files and do a new plain ubuntu install?
[05:13] <Zoroaster> cheziyi, thank you
[05:13] <n3uromancer> no other way?
[05:14] <cheziyi> Zoroaster, you're welcome
[05:14] <beda> i'm trying to install a .deb package with dpkg but there are needed packages missing. is there a parameter to tell dpkg to install those missing packages automatically?
[05:14] <Seveas> n3uromancer, that would be easiest, you may have luck with agressive apt pinning but ymmv
[05:14] <Seveas> beda, use gdebi
[05:14] <gnomefreak> n3uromancer: remember back up is your friend
[05:14] <n3uromancer> eheh
[05:15] <beda> does it come with ubuntu?
[05:15] <beda> gdebi
[05:15] <rpi> green_earz: still there? I checked, but my dapper install uses the same driver for my ethernet card as breezy...
[05:16] <beda> where do i find gdebi?
[05:16] <n3uromancer> I'm w/ debian at work. I can't have improductive time. Migration has to keep me no too much time. So I have keep debian?
[05:16] <n3uromancer> uhuhu//
[05:16] <n3uromancer> uhuhu..
[05:16] <n3uromancer> :(
[05:16] <Ng> installing ubuntu doesn't take long
[05:16] <MiikaK> .. :(  i'll be soundless all my life
[05:17] <Ng> you could do it in a lunch hour :)
[05:17] <n3uromancer> yeah but I have to reconfigure it
[05:17] <td-work_> question:  is the release on http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/  the latest or is flight7 somewhere where I cant find it?
[05:17] <Samuli^> td-work, flight 8 will be out in a day or two.
[05:18] <PDani> hi
[05:18] <Samuli^> saves you a lot of downloading.
[05:18] <n3uromancer> What have I to keep /etc and /home(s)?
[05:18] <n3uromancer> only
[05:18] <td-work_> true, thanks
[05:18] <PDani> how can i mount my freebsd ufs partitions using an ubuntu live cd?
[05:18] <cafuego> n3uromancer: 'dpkg --get-selections', keep that list to.
[05:19] <n3uromancer> cafuego: thanx
[05:19] <cafuego> tip: make a cron jon dump that to /etc/packages every morning :-)
[05:19] <karthiK>  i need help regarding...using serial mouse on 5.10  live version...plz specify the complete procedure
[05:21] <Spliffster> hi room
[05:22] <S-X3> hi
[05:22] <watson540> hello Spliffster
[05:22] <karthiK> hello all
[05:22] <Spliffster> how can i remove a broken dep package ? the postrm script is broken
[05:22] <Spliffster> s/dep/deb/
[05:22] <Spliffster> will say, the postrm script returns 1
[05:22] <karthiK>    i need help regarding...using serial mouse on 5.10  live version...plz specify the complete procedure
[05:23] <cheziyi> karthiK, what problems do you have?
[05:23] <karthiK> my serial mouse isn't working in 5.10 live version...how can i make it run?
[05:23] <S-X3> karthik does the mouse work on your primary OS?
[05:23] <maple> if I run anything but gnome or kde then i get sub-pixel hinting turned on. While i do have a laptop it looks like crap (too much color). I even started gnome-settings-daemon and made sure "best shapes" was chosen in the fonts section. any ideas how do manually control this in X? fonts.conf or somehting?
[05:24] <karthiK> it works
[05:24] <Spliffster> karthiK: is gpm started on the live cd ?
[05:24] <cheziyi> karthiK, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23926
[05:25] <SFO> Hi all, looking for some help, I'm running the live CD to see if it will run my printer as XP has decided to start objecting it.  It's a HP PSC 1205, I checked the HP website they don't have a Linux driver
[05:26] <watson540> SFO: did you expect them to have one? :)
[05:26] <chowells> SFO: linuxprinting.org
[05:26] <SFO> I've downloaded as .pps file from linuxprinting.org
[05:26] <watson540> sounds like your printer going bad if xp dont like it
[05:26] <SFO> Err... nope watson, good point!
[05:26] <SFO> It's very possible... I've never seen anything like the error it throws up
[05:27] <S-X3> What is the error?
[05:27] <amateos> ana
[05:27] <maple> SFO the printer is supported from what I show.
[05:27] <SFO> It comes up with a system error, failed to print.  The job appears in the print queue then disappears, the print head moves to start printing but never does
[05:27] <S-X3> And it has ink?
[05:27] <maple> do System-->Printing then add a printer. It is lited under the hpijs driver
[05:27] <SFO> It can print a calibration page for the scanner but not a test page
[05:28] <S-X3> Ah
[05:28] <S-X3> hm
[05:28] <SFO> maple: Thanks
[05:28] <SFO> Very very odd it is
[05:29] <blue-frog> hi is there a way to restrict a user session logon time (I want the user to be able to lg on from 3pm to 5pm everyday)?
[05:29] <myren> what compiz packages do i need for aiglx?
[05:29] <S-X3> 60hz is max refresh rate for a 17" CRT at 1280x1024 right ?
[05:29] <SFO> And hey presto Linus prints!
[05:29] <SFO> Linux*
[05:29] <myren> S-X3: depends on the monitor.  Many new monitors run 75hz or more.
[05:30] <karthiK> thanx cheziyi
[05:30] <S-X3> ah i see, hm.. Well I'm running a hp v72 monitor, tis about 2 years old, im personally too sure anyway because I cant even get to 1280,*snarls at x*
[05:30] <SFO> Hmmm... now this presents an interesting problem... why does XP not like the printer
[05:30] <cheziyi> karthiK, let me know if it works.. i just googled it (haha i very lazy one)
[05:30] <S-X3> SFO: Thats windows for you :P
[05:30] <SFO> Very very true
[05:31] <S-X3> I switched to ubuntu about a week and a half ago...god fed up with windows
[05:31] <axisme> yes, burn windows
[05:31] <SFO> S-X3: Personally I'd much rather use Linux, except I need a lot of specialist software and... well you know the rest
[05:31] <S-X3> Its certainly a task getting used to, and without all the resources and support, you feel like going back
[05:32] <S-X3> SFO: Aye, WINE does alot of windows apps, granted its a hit and miss but still
[05:32] <karthiK> thanx anyway...i'm on it
[05:32] <Frogzoo> S-X3: google for your monitor & you'll probly find an xorg.conf with the vert/horiz settings
[05:32] <S-X3> SFO: I recommend it would be wise to have both windows and linux, though I despise windows, it has hardly any compatibility issues
[05:32] <S-X3> Frogzoo: aye, ^^
[05:33] <Frogzoo> S-X3: SFO doze under kqemu
[05:33] <Archville> How to setup Totem output module ?
[05:33] <SFO> S-X3: I did consider dual boot for a while, but then thought considering I only really use my PC for word processing and to word process I need the specialist software, it would seem a little silly
[05:33] <Archville> I want it to use X11 as VLC.
[05:33] <Archville> But not Opengl.
[05:33] <S-X3> SFO: Specialist software for word processing? Wouldnt OO suffice?
[05:33] <S-X3> Frogzoo: eh?
[05:33] <Frogzoo> !kqemu
[05:34] <Frogzoo> !qemu
[05:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[05:34] <Spec> qemu rocks.
[05:34] <S-X3> Frogzoo: so its like the linux equivelent of VMWare?
[05:34] <SFO> S-X3:  Using dragon naturally speaking and Read and write gold
[05:34] <Frogzoo> Spec: kqemu's even nicer ;)
[05:34] <S-X3> SFO: o.o
[05:35] <S-X3> It probably wouldnt be wise for me to run 2 os's at once...being on 256mb mem
[05:35] <shadukan> hello
[05:35] <S-X3> I tried it with VMWare and Knoppix when i was on windows, i only used the STK and it almost killed me
[05:35] <SFO> S-X3:  Yeh you're proabably right there
[05:35] <ROBOd> hello
[05:35] <ROBOd> where do i get the latest vlc?
[05:36] <suprie> hallo all
[05:36] <eyesee> hi, guys, I have just setup my ubuntu, and when I execute "/etc/init.d/networking restart", I meet the following errors "Error : Temporary failure in name resolution", could you point me that what is my problem, any comments are appreciated. thanks.
[05:36] <Frogzoo> SFO: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=2077
[05:36] <S-X3> hello
[05:36] <ROBOd> i have installed vlc 0.8.4 from ubuntu universal repositories
[05:36] <ROBOd> but that's not the latest
[05:36] <barefoot_bill> Where can i find the BOOTLOG file ?
[05:36] <Frogzoo> S-X3: yes, qemu & vmware do pretty much the same thing
[05:36] <Nogimics> F'ROBOd: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[05:36] <S-X3> Frogzoo: reet, well I'll probably get it once I get a bit more memory
[05:37] <ROBOd> Nogimics: i am there
[05:37] <Nogimics> So download it
[05:37] <zizu_elmejor> ola
[05:38] <S-X3> hello
[05:38] <Nogimics> F'ROBOd: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[05:38] <zizu_elmejor> me toy keando flipao ...
[05:38] <SFO> Don't suppose anyone could shed any light on why my printer hates me?
[05:38] <S-X3> SFO: Still not working?
[05:38] <Zoroaster> to copy a directory and its contents you would do "cp source destinaton", right?
[05:38] <ROBOd> Nogimics: yes, i installed that
[05:38] <Zoroaster> I am doing
[05:38] <zizu_elmejor> ...
[05:38] <ROBOd> but it's not vlc 0.8.5
[05:39] <SFO> S-X3: Not in XP, grrr.... sillyness... I hate Windows
[05:39] <Zoroaster> cp /home/administrator/useradmin /etc/webmin  ?
[05:39] <suprie> i have repositories at the office and i want to move it to my home computer, anybody know how to do it?
[05:39] <cheziyi> wat version of gnome with dapper come with?
[05:39] <S-X3> SFO: Yup... wrong drive in Win perhaps?
[05:39] <Zoroaster> because what I get is that it says it is ommitting the dir I want to copy
[05:39] <barefoot_bill> Where can I find the bootlog, Please ?
[05:40] <ROBOd> Nogimics: suggestions?
[05:40] <gnomefreak> /var/log/system?
[05:40] <SFO> S-X3:  Checked it... updated them, reinstalled them... checked settings... I'm bamoozled
[05:40] <onkarshinde> Has anyone ever used Blender for house interior design? How easy is it to learn?
[05:40] <S-X3> SFO: Interesting... I've always had problems with my PSC, Its a printer/scanner, only get the error on XP..worked fine with 2k
[05:40] <Zoroaster> I figured it out
[05:40] <Zoroaster> I just had to read
[05:40] <Zoroaster> sorry
[05:41] <tr1gg3r> Zoroaster, usecp -r to copy dirs, read man cp
[05:41] <Zoroaster> tr1gg3r, ok thanks
[05:41] <SFO> S-X3:  That does seem odd... and this is very wierd, it had more or less always worked perfectly... and then suddenly, system error cannot print
[05:42] <andreasn> does anyone know if there is any dapper-debs of gimmie?
[05:42] <S-X3> SFO: Does it give you an error code? like 00x0 or 134 and the likes
[05:42] <SFO> S-X3: It was working fine two days ago... and I haven't changed anything... so I'm a bit stuck really
[05:42] <SFO> S-X3: Err... not that I recall
[05:43] <S-X3> SFO: You using it from a network?
[05:43] <Standley> Does anyone who can help me to get a c compiler to ubuntu that works, gcc dont seems to work propebly
[05:43] <gnomefreak> Standley: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:43] <Frogzoo> Standley: gcc works perfectly - what r u trying to do?
[05:43] <Archville> Gcc works for me.
[05:43] <Archville> And G++.
[05:43] <SFO> S-X3:  It was previously shared with my network but is local, but doesn't work shared or not now
[05:43] <Standley> I trying to configure eggdrop
[05:44] <Archville> BTW I don't find a good IDE for them.
[05:44] <suprie> can anyone help building local repository ?
[05:44] <Archville> I don't like Anjuta.
[05:44] <gnomefreak> Standley: depends on what gcc version was used to compile what you are compiling
[05:44] <Frogzoo> Standley: if you're building kernel modules, you need gcc-3.4
[05:44] <Archville> So i use straight Vim.
[05:44] <suprie> i want to use it at home
[05:44] <S-X3> SFO: go to start > run > services.msc
[05:44] <Standley> error message I got is:
[05:44] <Standley> checking for gcc... gcc
[05:44] <Standley> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:44] <S-X3> SFO: Then check the print spooler service
[05:44] <onkarshinde> Archville: Have you used eclipse?
[05:44] <onkarshinde> Archville: I mean with CDT
[05:44] <kirkunit> is anyone successfully using Supercollider on Ubuntu?
[05:44] <Standley> used apt-get to install the newest gcc
[05:44] <Frogzoo> Standley: 'sudo apt-get build-essential'
[05:44] <SFO> S-X3: Yep, tried that
[05:44] <Archville> onkarshinde, i heard Eclipse was for Java
[05:44] <gnomefreak> install
[05:44] <Archville> so never used it
[05:45] <Frogzoo> Standley: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[05:45] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: thx
[05:45] <S-X3> SFO: Restarted the print spooler service and/or the computer itself?
[05:45] <Standley> I`ll try, thanks so far :)
[05:45] <SFO> S-X3: Yep
[05:45] <onkarshinde> Archville: There is something called C Development Tools as addon for eclipse
[05:45] <gnomefreak> Archville: eclipse has plug-ins for just about 100 languges
[05:45] <S-X3> SFO: Hmmm, interesting
[05:45] <mormoloc> are there any lexmark z35 drivers for ubuntu?
[05:45] <cafuego> !lexmark
[05:45] <ubotu> cafuego: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:45] <Spec> Archville: there's modules for eclipse, like a python module, and i'm assuming more than just a python module -- but that's all i have experience with :p
[05:45] <cafuego> ubotu: no
[05:45] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cafuego
[05:45] <SFO> S-X3:  I thought so, it's ok, it makes me feel slightly better, I'm not the only one who is confused
[05:46] <Archville> Uhmm, i'll apt-get it to take a look.
[05:46] <Spec> Archville: it's useful to browse through the module API ... kinda, I prefer vim next to a python intepreter though
[05:46] <S-X3> SFO: ehehe
[05:46] <Standley> It works!
[05:46] <Standley> Thanks alot :D
[05:46] <Mysta_> anyone have a problem where ya mouse doesn't respond correctly, jumps all over the place, and opens programs?
[05:46] <Archville> I really like using Vim for programming.
[05:46] <onkarshinde> Has anyone ever used Blender for house interior design? How easy is it to learn?
[05:46] <Spec> Mysta_: drugs are bad for mice, stop feeding it bad drugs :-/
[05:46] <S-X3> Mysta_, that happened to me yesterday
[05:46] <Archville> But... i would like a "Compile with G++" in Vim.
[05:46] <Frogzoo> mormoloc: I see Z32 - worth a shot
[05:46] <kirkunit> Mysta: maybe you've been 'hacked' by Gary McKinnon :)
[05:46] <S-X3> Mysta_, Its cause i threw my mouse at the wall though....
[05:46] <Spec> onkarshinde: there's a slight learning curve, it's pretty powerful
[05:46] <S-X3> kirkunit, oh the horror
[05:47] <Mysta_> so it hasn't happen to anyone here?
[05:47] <onkarshinde> Spec: But is it useful for house interior design?
[05:47] <kirkunit> Mysta: broken mouse?
[05:47] <S-X3> Mysta_, is it optical?
[05:47] <Mysta_> nope it works on all the other servers in our server room via KVM
[05:47] <Mysta_> and it doesn't do it all the time
[05:47] <Frogzoo> Mysta_: I'm guessing wrong driver
[05:47] <Zeksers> how to start sshd ?
[05:48] <Archville> apt-get install eclipse -> 115 MB ?
[05:48] <Zeksers> and is it installed by default?
[05:48] <Spec> Zeksers: /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[05:48] <cafuego> !info eclipse
[05:48] <Zeksers> thx
[05:48] <S-X3> Is aMSN worth choosing over Gaim? hmm
[05:48] <axisme> nope
[05:48] <Archville> 115 Mb is a lot of space for an IDE
[05:48] <Spec> Zeksers: sudo apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client
[05:48] <Archville> :\
[05:48] <cafuego> piffle
[05:49] <axisme> it gives you more or a msn look....if thats what you want
[05:49] <axisme> i still use Gaim
[05:49] <cafuego> Archville: Compared to the 3GB for MS VC++? You think so? ;-)
[05:49] <Spec> Archville: it's slightly evil, too. bloated in some respects
[05:49] <S-X3> Nah i dont care about the appearance
[05:49] <Zoroaster> I have a questions, hopefully someone can help me
[05:49] <axisme> try Kopete if you want to try something abit different
[05:49] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[05:49] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[05:49] <Archville> cafuego, well.. if you look it that way... i suposse no. :P
[05:49] <Spec> !question
[05:49] <ubotu> Spec: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:49] <S-X3> axisme, im assuming nix doesnt have webcam support yet for IM clients on the MSN protocol?
[05:49] <onkarshinde> Archville: Don't install from Ubuntu repos. Just install from official site. Ubuntu repos version is damn slow
[05:50] <axisme> i havent heard of any....heh
[05:50] <Spec> cafuego: i wrote some php for my apt repository, wanna look at it? I think your site works better (ubuntu.cafuego.net)
[05:50] <S-X3> axisme, guess thats online virtual striptease out the window :P
[05:50] <axisme> i used to just use gnome meeting for that ;-)
[05:50] <cafuego> Spec: My site uses falcon (http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/)
[05:50] <Zoroaster> I setup an ubuntu 5.10 machine, server only, and it has webmin installed, but there is no server (or module, whatever you call it) for creating and modifying Unix users and groups
[05:50] <S-X3> axisme, lol...but wont work with someone on windows :(
[05:50] <SFO> Right I'm going to go back to Windows land (shame on me I know) see if I can breathe any life into my printer... and the typing is now really killing my hands.  Thanks for all the help S-X3
[05:50] <axisme> meet all kinds of weird people on gnome meeting
[05:51] <S-X3> SFO: No problem mate, hope you get it fixed
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> axisme,  and on IRC.
[05:51] <Spec> cafuego: http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/archive/   mine is just mini-dinstall + the php i wrote for fun
[05:51] <S-X3> Yes....and on IRC :P
[05:51] <Zoroaster> I setup an ubuntu 5.10 machine, server only, and it has webmin installed, but there is no server (or module, whatever you call it) for creating and modifying Unix users and groups, so I did an apt-cache search and found nothing, but on the webmin website there is one for download, escept it comes as a .gz file
[05:51] <Spec> cafuego: did seveas write falcon?
[05:51] <cafuego> Spec: yep
[05:51] <blackgecko> anyone knows something about firexox crashes with xgl ??
[05:51] <S-X3> be back in 15 minutes or so !
[05:52] <Zoroaster> how does one install a .gz ?
[05:52] <cafuego> blackgecko: With Xgl you shouldn't be surprised at any kind of crash.
[05:52] <kirkunit> Zoroaster: that's a gzipped file
[05:52] <NoUse> blackgecko ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:52] <blackgecko> cafuego: yeah i know but except for firefox everything else is working fine
[05:52] <Mysta_> whats the diff between gzipped and zipped?
[05:53] <blackgecko> NoUse: thank you ill do that
[05:53] <Frogzoo> Mysta_: zip format is proprietary, gzip is gnu
[05:53] <Mysta_> AHA!
[05:53] <Mysta_> good tip
[05:53] <Mysta_> thx
[05:53] <kirkunit> Zoroaster: tar xzvf file.gz
[05:54] <Mysta_> ok, if i want to untar a TAR file in another directory how do I do so?  tar xvf mytarfile.tar  .... whats the rest?
[05:54] <Spec> cafuego: does falcon manage the repository, or just display the repository?
[05:54] <koke> ola
[05:54] <Mysta_> another directory other then the one I'm presently in
[05:54] <blackgecko> Mysta cd /to/your/dest/dir
[05:54] <cafuego> Spec: it builds the repository and html, based on the contents of a single directory (where you dump all package and dsc files)
[05:55] <Mysta_> then how does it know what file to TAR?
[05:55] <blackgecko> tar xvzf /path/to/targz
[05:55] <Mysta_> oh
[05:55] <Spec> cafuego: so it'll work with dput?
[05:55] <cafuego> Spec: ... and then it pushes that content out to mirrors using rsync.
[05:55] <Spec> assuming you have mirrors :p
[05:55] <cafuego> well, yes
[05:56] <cafuego> or publish the packages on a non-local box anyway
[05:56] <Spec> I might have to try to set that up...maybe on my home box
[05:56] <Spec> but port 80 out is blocked at my house :-/
[05:57] <koke> ola
[05:57] <kirkunit> ls
[05:57] <kirkunit> oops wrong screen :)
[05:57] <jonah> if you try sudo batch why do i get this error? chmod: changing permissions of `system.reg': Operation not permitted
[05:57] <Archville> Any way to limit a running process (apt) to a given bandwith ?
[05:57] <dark_> hi
[05:57] <allee> Hi cupsys: client.conf was removed.  How do I define now ServerName system wide (CUPS_SERVER env var is nice to use)
[05:58] <dark_> ciao
[05:58] <amateos> hello
[05:58] <dark_> hi
[05:58] <dark_> amateos
[05:58] <dark_> are there any italian?
[05:58] <amateos> no
[05:58] <jonah> what's the correct way to batch files and folders and files within those folders as super user?
[05:58] <Ng> !it
[05:58] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:58] <Mysta_> !it
[05:58] <dark_> ok
[05:59] <Mysta_> welcome back
[05:59] <Ng> jonah: batch?
[06:00] <Ng> jonah: was there a word missing after that? ;)
[06:00] <relachs> !ger
[06:00] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, relachs
[06:00] <jonah> Ng, sorry i meant to say batch chmod
[06:00] <relachs> -_-
[06:00] <relachs> !de
[06:00] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[06:00] <Ng> jonah: chmod -R
[06:01] <bert> !nz
[06:01] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bert
[06:01] <jonah> Ng, it won't let me though, i get this: chmod: changing permissions of `drive_c/windows/rundll32.exe': Operation not permitted
[06:01] <Ng> jonah: ah sorry, stick "sudo" in front of the command
[06:01] <jonah> Ng, it's my wine directory, but i can change files one at a time in sudo nautilus
[06:02] <llpamies> Hi, I'm on dapper and my ipw2200 ethernet card is not working since last upgrade.  Anybody has this problem ??
[06:02] <Seveas> Spec, you called?
[06:02] <jonah> Ng, ah thanks, now that just gave me a another prompt, does that means it done or it didn't do anything?
[06:02] <Ng> jonah: that means it did it :)
[06:02] <almenfors> anyone who could recomend a good and easy ftp server ?
[06:03] <jonah> Ng, it could have told me!! hehe thanks
[06:06] <Seveas> Spec, actually, falcon started as a crappy php script a long long time ago 
[06:06] <fgarrido> ola
[06:06] <cheziyi> almenfors, gftp is good
[06:06] <almenfors> cheziyi, is it easy for beginners as well? =)
[06:07] <boreto> Hi, where i can get very simple information about how i can share my internet connection with windows98 SE ?
[06:08] <NoUse> boreto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShareInternetConnection
[06:08] <almenfors> cheziyi, i get both gftp common and bkg?
[06:08] <freezey> how do i create a startup script?
[06:09] <Valehru> Hey guys, had to install linux but I already had ubuntu installed, the MBR was written over and now I can't get into ubuntu via grub...
[06:09] <boreto> NoUse: Thank you very much! I`ll try with it!
[06:09] <Valehru> how can I fix it?
[06:09] <Valehru> by the way, how can I log into a shell seeing as I don't have the CD...
[06:09] <Spec> Seveas: hehe, that's amusing
[06:10] <almenfors> cheziyi, ok installed. now to how to get it operational hehehe
[06:11] <freezey> hey guys. how do i create a startup script?
[06:11] <cheziyi> almenfors, i think there is a readme somewhere will all the commands
[06:12] <gahan> I would like to keep my "gb" keyboard layout (so 'shift' and '2' would be '"', not '@') and be able to type iso8859-2 chars, like alt+l -> '', does it depend on xserver configuration or rather gnome?
[06:12] <Spec> freezey: first, look at /etc/init.d/skeleton
[06:13] <Spec> freezey: that's a skeleton script...so fill that out appropriately, and have your new script sitting in /etc/init.d/; then run update-rc.d newscript defaults
[06:13] <almenfors> cheziyi, ok thanks
[06:14] <cheziyi> almenfors... sry... if i'm not wrong gftp is a client? not a server?
[06:14] <freezey> spec: hmm ok
[06:14] <julia> hi
[06:15] <freezey> spec: never done this before but let me see what i can do
[06:15] <almenfors> cheziyi,  yeah it was hehe
[06:15] <cheziyi> almenfor, vsftpd is a good server
[06:15] <cheziyi> almenfor, sry about that
[06:15] <cheziyi> almenfor, not really feeling myself today
[06:15] <ranpha> Does any one have a working linksys cardbus WPC54G on 6.06????
[06:16] <freezey> spec: do i change the path?
[06:16] <almenfors> cheziyi, we all have thoose days =)  i needed a client as well anyway so np =)
[06:16] <cheziyi> almenfors, sry i miss-spelt your name
[06:16] <freezey> spec: ok let me just i have no clue lol
[06:16] <Archville> Uhmm, finally got Eclipse.
[06:17] <Spec> freezey: cp /etc/init.d/skeleton /etc/init.d/mystartupscript
[06:17] <Spec> freezey: then edit mystartupscript :)
[06:17] <axisme> ranpha, depends on the version..you should read this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28wireless%29
[06:18] <axisme> find the one that matches ;-)
[06:18] <green_earz> freezey: here a howto for a boot script > http://www.debianhelp.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3306&theme=Printer
[06:18] <freezey> spec: i still gotta edit the skeleton tho right
[06:18] <Spec> nope
[06:18] <Spec> just the file you copy skeleton to
[06:18] <Spec> that how-to is worth reading
[06:19] <freezey> spec: after i run that CP command now i just edit the mystartupscript file right?
[06:19] <almenfors> whats the command line for download and install a program?
[06:19] <ccc__> almenfors: sudo apt-get install <name>
[06:19] <Mysta_> apt-get
[06:20] <jerome> good evening all. I just installed a breezy on a quite old G4 powerbook. Eveerything seems just fine, GDM displays nicely, but I can't seem to get the desktop displayed. I'm stuck with an empty brown background :/
[06:20] <jerome> any idea ?
[06:20] <apprentice> hhello
[06:21] <almenfors> hum..ok got visftpd now. how do i find it lol
[06:21] <NoUse> jerome I would try getting to console and running 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade', it shoudl update all your packages and maybe that bug has been fixed
[06:21] <ranpha> axisme : i see that i need to update...i used the linuxant drver frsit in debian but can't use it in ubunut 6.06. It can't find the kernel modules...are these the linux headers?
[06:21] <lucasvo> !fonts
[06:21] <ubotu> well, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[06:22] <axisme> which one is it?
[06:22] <fgarrido> ola
[06:22] <ompaul> !es
[06:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:22] <fgarrido> ola alex de donde eres
[06:23] <fgarrido> oolla
[06:23] <fgarrido> ola ales
[06:23] <CarlFK> does ubuntu-server use a different kernel?  if so, what header package do I use if I want to compile a module?
[06:24] <fgarrido> adios
[06:25] <blue-frog> trying to learn how to restrict access to a session based on time/day I play with "account required  pam_time.so" in /etc/pam.d/common-account. Doing this then prevents me to access graphical frontend for synaptic for example, it says wrong password while sudo still works. any idea?
[06:28] <tombs> hi all
[06:28] <CarlFK> hi tombs
[06:28] <freezey> spec: do i have to write the script in another file? and then write the startup script to run that file at startup?
[06:31] <mzuverink> Anyone here using Squirrelmail?
[06:35] <isai> I am using breezy and want to watch some wmv movies with xine. Where are the win32 codecs?
[06:36] <NoUse> !tell isai about w32codecs
[06:37] <tomasz> hi - I'm trying to install 6.06 and keep getting "corrupt file" errors - is it a know issue ?
[06:37] <Spec> freezey: no
[06:37] <stpere> tomasz, verify the md5sum of the image you downloaded
[06:37] <^Spear> how do you do that?
[06:37] <tomasz> stpere: I did
[06:37] <^Spear> how do you verify?
[06:37] <Spec> freezey: you need to write (1) script, based off of /etc/init.d/skeleton, then you need to add symlinks that will automagically call your script at startup. The easiest way to add the symlinks is by the command: update-rc.d <filename> defaults, where <filename> is the name of the script you renamed /etc/init.d/skeleton to.
[06:38] <isai> thanks
[06:38] <tomasz> I even burned two CDs to make sure ...
[06:38] <Spec> and you did the md5 checksum?
[06:38] <pyroticshadow> Anyone know much about WolfET?
[06:39] <CarlFK> tomasz: where are you seeing what?
[06:39] <tomasz> Spec: yes
[06:39] <keNzi> gobject.GError: icon "update-manager" is not available
[06:39] <megaman123> trying to compile a plugin and getting this error: data.h:38: warning: 'class cScanDir' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor
[06:39] <tomasz> CarlFK: After formating HDD, when trying to copy *deb to the hard drive
[06:39] <keNzi> anyone can help me ?
[06:40] <NoUse> tomasz which version of the dapper install cd do you have?
[06:40] <vital_101> Does anyone know if Gnome 2.14 will be included in the final release of dapper?
[06:40] <CarlFK> tomasz: hit Alt-F2,
[06:40] <tomasz> I have just downloaded one from: ... ok wait I'll hit Alt-F2 ...
[06:40] <CarlFK> tomasz: and alt-F4 (nothing on 3)
[06:41] <CarlFK> try copying to /tmp - see if it is a CD error, in witch case.. burn agian... try a slower speed
[06:41] <almenfors> cheziyi, how do i get started with this?
[06:41] <almenfors> cheziyi, the ftp server i mean
[06:41] <tomasz> CarlFK: BusyBox v1.01 (Debian 1:1.01-4ubuntu3)
[06:42] <tomasz> CarlFK: does it answer the question ?
[06:42] <Mysta_> anyone familar w/ 686-smp installs?
[06:42] <CarlFK> tomasz: it is a shell where you can do things like mount, cp, ...
[06:42] <ShellMaza> Dappers help channel plz
[06:42] <CarlFK> tomasz: no - it is a place for you to "do things" ;)
[06:42] <tomasz> CarlFK: :) OK, how do I retrive the version you asked about ?
[06:42] <CarlFK> ShellMaza: 'here'
[06:43] <ShellMaza> kewl
[06:43] <CarlFK> tomasz: I didn't -
[06:43] <ShellMaza> i installed dapper to resolve a video card issiue
[06:43] <tomasz> CarlFK: sorry, not you
[06:43] <ShellMaza> and the whole time, the nvidia driver was init the other DVI port
[06:44] <tomasz> NoUse: I got it from: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-beta2-install-i386.iso
[06:45] <cheziyi> almenfors, can you start up the server? just type vsftpd into the command line
[06:45] <nrr|dewopp> tomasz: Did you get the MD5SUM to go along with the image and run md5sum -c?
[06:46] <axisme> hi chamo
[06:46] <almenfors> cheziyi, is there any graphical layout or text based?
[06:46] <cheziyi> erm, its text based
[06:46] <cheziyi> but its easy to use
[06:46] <tomasz> nrr|dewopp: I did check the MD5 sum for the iso image
[06:46] <cute_bettong> !ratpoison
[06:46] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cute_bettong
[06:46] <nrr|dewopp> OK.  Have you ruled out controller failure?  Have you ruled out a bad cable?
[06:46] <almenfors> cheziyi,  i dont think i got the install correctly..
[06:46] <cheziyi> any messages when you installed it?
[06:47] <rizck> hi i am trying to install my wireless in ubuntu its bmcwl5
[06:47] <CarlFK> tomasz: figure out where the CD is mounted, cd into that dir and do md5sum -cv md5sum.txt
[06:47] <rizck> ive tried all forums and still no luck :S
[06:47] <CarlFK> that will check each file, on the hardware you are currently useing
[06:47] <rizck> can someone help me set it up
[06:47] <cheziyi> almenfors, you installed by apt-get, yea?
[06:48] <almenfors> cheziyi, hehe i miss spelled it the first time now i got it =)
[06:48] <rizck> anyone?
[06:49] <CarlFK> tomasz: looks like that md5sum doesn't support -v, so just  md5sum -c md5sum.txt
[06:49] <FrdPrefct> Hello
[06:49] <CarlFK> rizck: what card?
[06:49] <FrdPrefct> When doing a "dpkg -l" to list all the packages, packages are marked with "ii", "ri", etc... what does all that mean?
[06:49] <CarlFK>  bmcwl5 ...
[06:49] <rizck> 4306
[06:49] <tomasz> nrr|dewopp: Some stuff gives OK, but there is a portion of it giving FAILED answer ...
[06:49] <almenfors> cheziyi, it doesnt start..it says "could not bind listening IPv4 socket"
[06:50] <rizck> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[06:50] <cheziyi> almenfors, it starts automatically
[06:50] <DarkAura> anyone know of a way to backup a multi boot system running WinXP Solaris and Ubuntu? -- Something that would let me multi-cast would be ideal
[06:50] <almenfors> cheziyi, noticed that too now hehe
[06:50] <CarlFK> tomasz: your cd drive doesn't like the CD - burn again, slower speed
[06:51] <cheziyi> almenfors: all you need to do now is to go to any other computer and try out by typing ftp://<ipadd>/
[06:51] <rizck> CarlFK, my card is Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[06:51] <FrdPrefct> rizck: What problem are you having?
[06:51] <tomasz> 1175 of 1826 failed (I'll check with the other CD I've burned)
[06:51] <almenfors> cheziyi, dont i need to setup users/accounts =)
[06:51] <FrdPrefct> rizck: And, which version of ubuntu you having?   I have that card in my lappy
[06:51] <rizck> well i see it in lspci i wanna make it work i tried a couple of forums and still no luck
[06:51] <FrdPrefct> When doing a "dpkg -l" to list all the packages, packages are marked with "ii", "ri", etc... what does all that mean?
[06:51] <cheziyi> almenfors, it comes default with a public account, where everyone can view
[06:52] <rizck> FrdPrefct, Linux VR 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic #1 Mon Oct 10 13:27:39 BST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:52] <FrdPrefct> rizck: breezy?
[06:52] <almenfors> cheziyi,  ok hold on 2 mins. ill run over to my laptop and try it
[06:52] <nrr|dewopp> tomasz: Can you give us an idea of what sort of target machine on which you're installing Ubuntu with these CDs?  I.e., is it a laptop, desktop, workstation?
[06:52] <DarkAura> Anyone know of a way to backup a multi boot system running WinXP Solaris and Ubuntu? -- Something that would let me multi-cast would be ideal - but anything deployable would be good too.
[06:52] <rizck> FrdPrefct, i thnk :)
[06:52] <FrdPrefct> phrizer: should be... ;)
[06:52] <instabin1> Is there a program to setup ubuntu as a firewall router proxy
[06:52] <freezey> does anyone know what file iptables reads as a config?
[06:52] <cheziyi> almenfors, it will be black at the current moment though
[06:52] <FrdPrefct> phrizer: I have a fix... you need to uninstall a module. hold
[06:52] <FrdPrefct> rizck even
[06:53] <rizck> FrdPrefct, i just dl this linux right now :P
[06:53] <Mysta_> whats the difference between "cat myfile.html" and "more myfile.html"??
[06:53] <FrdPrefct> rizck: You using ndiswrappers?
[06:53] <^Nikos> can you please help me get mplayer working?
[06:53] <tomasz> nrr:dewopp: It's IMB T42 latop - I had 5.04 before on it
[06:53] <rizck> FrdPrefct, i have it install
[06:53] <apokryphos> Mysta_: cat will show all of the text in the file. more will only show as much as your terminal can handle
[06:53] <nrr|dewopp> tomasz: Burn at a way slower speed and see what that does.
[06:53] <ranpha> I need to update my firmware of mt bcm43xx card...i followed the instructions and extraced some firmwares ...but then the guides stops because it links to s dead server...what do i need to do no?
[06:53] <apokryphos> and will wait for you to press space to see the next part
[06:53] <FrdPrefct> take a look at /var/log/messages
[06:53] <^Nikos> dell:~# mplayer -vo xv /media/hda5/Movies/Mission\ Impossible\ III\ a.avi
[06:53] <apokryphos> Mysta_: ...but less is superior to more
[06:54] <FrdPrefct> you should see errors when you modprobe ndiswrappers
[06:54] <^Nikos> this works but form gui it doesnt
[06:54] <Frogzoo> freezey: it doesn't
[06:54] <nrr|dewopp> My ThinkPad 600E didn't like CD-Rs that I'd recorded at any speed faster than 4x.
[06:54] <freezey> frogzoo: dam ok
[06:54] <nrr|dewopp> It's very possible that IBM's laptops still have that issue.
[06:54] <Mysta_> apokryphos: thanks that helps
[06:54] <FrdPrefct> rizck: Type "rmmod bcm43xx"
[06:54] <FrdPrefct> then give the ndiswrappers a try
[06:54] <instabin1> any one help setup ubuntu as a router firewall etc portforwarding?
[06:55] <^Nikos> ?
[06:55] <PERENO14> hola a todos
[06:55] <instabin1> !router
[06:55] <ubotu> I heard router is a device used to connect multiple computers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.
[06:55] <FrdPrefct> if all that works... vi /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add "blacklist bcm43xx" at the bottom
[06:55] <rizck> rizck@VR:~$ rmmod bcm43xx
[06:55] <rizck> ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[06:55] <rizck> rizck@VR:~$
[06:55] <FrdPrefct> instabin1: firestarter will do it for you
[06:55] <rizck> i thnk i just deleted it a moment ago
[06:55] <ccc_> FrdPrefct: do 'dpkg -l |less' and you'll see the descriptions for each column
[06:55] <Mysta_> !es
[06:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:55] <almenfors> cheziyi, ok i got contact. wouldnt let me in but atleast its up and running.
[06:55] <instabin1> thanks
[06:55] <^Nikos> plz help me get mplayer working
[06:55] <Frogzoo> freezey: man iptables-save & iptables-restore - you could setup an rc script
[06:55] <^Nikos> i ma getting -vo error
[06:55] <cheziyi> almenfors, to put files in the "public" section, in the ~/home/ directory there is this "ftp" folder
[06:55] <FrdPrefct> rizck: Yer running breezy then
[06:55] <tomasz> nrr:dewopp: I will have to do it ... Another thing: I would like to change HW adress of my ethernet card during installation -> I was trying to do that in the console, didn't work (next to the installation). How to make it work ?
[06:55] <FrdPrefct> ermmmmmm... dapper even
[06:55] <cheziyi> almenfors, what do you mean it woudn't let you in?
[06:56] <green_earz> instabin1: or have a look at using shorewall to setup a router box
[06:56] <rizck> FrdPrefct, ok so what should i do ;P
[06:56] <cheziyi> ubotu, yes, thats the purpose of a router
[06:56] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cheziyi
[06:56] <FrdPrefct> You install the correct ndiswrapper drivers
[06:56] <almenfors> cheziyi, wouldnt accept the anonymous.
[06:56] <FrdPrefct> ??
[06:56] <rizck> yes
[06:56] <FrdPrefct> When doing a "dpkg -l" to list all the packages, packages are marked with "ii", "ri", etc... what does all that mean?
[06:56] <nrr|dewopp> tomasz: You'll have to ask someone else about mangling the HW/MAC address on your ethernet card.  I really can't recall off-hand how to do it.
[06:56] <FrdPrefct> modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:56] <FrdPrefct> dmesg
[06:56] <FrdPrefct> see if anything pops up
[06:57] <rizck> yes
[06:57] <instabin1> FrdPrefct Anything with a bit more detail like ipcop?
[06:57] <rizck> alot of things
[06:57] <tomasz> nrr|dewopp: :)  thanks anyway
[06:57] <DarkAura> Anyone know of a way to backup a multi boot system running WinXP Solaris and Ubuntu? -- anything deployable will work
[06:57] <cheziyi> almenfors, what do you use? for the "public" part you can use any web briwser
[06:57] <FrdPrefct> instabin1: Ipcop or smoothwall works great
[06:57] <nrr|dewopp> tomasz: Not a problem. :)
[06:57] <instabin1> I have ipcop but i want to use ubuntu
[06:57] <almenfors> cheziyi, i used an ftp client on my laptop
[06:57] <GaiaX11> Supose that i am upgrading from Breezy to dapper and the energy goes off. What will happen with my system? Will it not boot again and lead me to gdm login?
[06:58] <instabin1> FrdPrefct i have ipcop but i want that detail on ubuntu
[06:58] <FrdPrefct> GaiaX11: I havn't tested that... I'd assume it wouldn't be good
[06:58] <madewokherd> GaiaX11: it probably depends on where it stops
[06:58] <rizck> FrdPrefct, i have bcmwl5.inf on my comp
[06:58] <madewokherd> but yeah, it's not good
[06:58] <FrdPrefct> instabin1: Then install nagios or big brother, or what not with it
[06:58] <FrdPrefct> phrizer: HOw'd you install?
[06:58] <cheziyi> almenfors, thats a problem with vsftpd... for anonymous it is quite stringent
[06:59] <almenfors> cheziyi, this is  the msg i get "500 OOPS:vsftpd:refusing to run with writable anonymouse root" what ever that means
[06:59] <mogydy> hello
[06:59] <madewokherd> you should at least be able to get to a command-line where you can finish the upgrade though
[06:59] <mogydy> i need help with the zd1211 wireless driver
[06:59] <GaiaX11> So, for people that don't have no-break it is a risk. Isn't it?
[06:59] <madewokherd> what is no-break?
[06:59] <madewokherd> yes, upgrading is a risk
[07:00] <madewokherd> things can break
[07:00] <Mysta_> If I've SSH'ed to a box, aren't there virtual sessions in a terminal window? something w/ the Function keys?
[07:00] <mogydy> does anyone have experience with zd1211 driver under drapper drake?
[07:00] <ShellMaza> woohoo, ut2003 is installing
[07:00] <almenfors> cheziyi, is this a  consol based ftp server?
[07:00] <madewokherd> GaiaX11: I think if apt-get is interrupted you can probably recover pretty easily, but it takes some time and your system might be broken until then
[07:00] <instabin1> !nagios
[07:00] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, instabin1
[07:01] <madewokherd> GaiaX11: the bigger risk is that a successful upgrade will break something
[07:01] <Mahmoud85> mogydy: try #ubuntu+1 , its Dapper support channel
[07:01] <FrdPrefct> When doing a "dpkg -l" to list all the packages, packages are marked with "ii", "ri", etc... what does all that mean?
[07:01] <hackel> Anyone know if there's a nice, small gnome/gtk text editor the equivilent of notepad? gedit takes 10 seconds just to load.  I just want something with a small footprint, limited features.
[07:01] <mogydy> thank you Mahmoud
[07:01] <cheziyi> almenfors,  # chmod u-w /srv/ftp  # mkdir /srv/ftp/pub  # chown ftp:ftp /srv/ftp/pub
[07:01] <kane777> how do I find out if I'm having the right nvidia drivers installed??
[07:02] <cheziyi> almenfors, yes, its a console based server
[07:02] <Sjors> Doe anyone knows how to install Ubuntu with USB2 Mouse and Keyboard (I've got an Dell Dimension 3100 without PS/2 ports)???
[07:03] <GeorgeAScott> how do i remote into a ubuntu machine?
[07:03] <GaiaX11> So, in this case it is better to backup the system and to install Dapper from CD. Is it?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Sjors,  it should work fine.
[07:03] <Mysta_> GeorgeAScott: do you want a GUI or just a terminal
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Sjors,  you haveing a specific problem withya usb things?
[07:03] <Archville> Do'h
[07:03] <GeorgeAScott> gui
[07:03] <cheziyi> almenfors, if you want a graphical server, you can get filezilla... but i recomended vsftpd because it takes less system resources
[07:03] <Archville> Eclipse is definitely not user-frienly.
[07:03] <frfx> GeorgeAScott: ssh maybe?
[07:03] <Archville> It took me about 30 mins to build a Hello World in C++.
[07:03] <Mysta_>  GeorgeAScott: you'll need VNC
[07:03] <Archville> Hell.
[07:04] <Mysta_> a VNC client
[07:04] <Sjors> It wont unrecognizable
[07:04] <Mysta_> i use UltraVNC from my windows box
[07:04] <GaiaX11> Is there a cd to upgrade Breezy to Dapper without reintalling all the system again?
[07:04] <Sjors> it wont recognize my Mouse and Keyboard :S
[07:04] <GeorgeAScott> mysta_: and this is supposing that i'm from a windows computer?
[07:04] <Mysta_> ye
[07:04] <Mysta_> yep
[07:04] <frfx> GeorgeAScott: terminal or gui?
[07:04] <GeorgeAScott> gui
[07:05] <cheziyi> almenfors, wait, thers a problem, filezilla is for windows
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> Sjors,  try enabling 'legacy usb support' in the bios.   and check  google/ubuntu wikis for your specific brand of laptop.
[07:05] <GaiaX11> Is there a cd to do that
[07:05] <Mysta_> GeorgeAScott: if you are doing it from another ubuntu box, you can go to applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client
[07:05] <Sjors> ok Thanks
[07:05] <kane777> how do I find out if I'm having the right nvidia drivers installed??
[07:06] <jcapote> anyone have a palm that they use with evolution
[07:06] <GeorgeAScott> i'd love to put ubuntu on my work computer... but...
[07:06] <Sjors> I try to enable Legacy USB right now..
[07:06] <LinuxJones> Sjors: you can look to see if usb is finding your devices (which it probably is by doing >> cat /proc/bus/usb/devices | grep Manufacturer
[07:06] <madewokherd> GaiaX11: I've had my computer go down during upgrades before; apt-get pretty much told me what to do and I just had to start it and wait a long long time
[07:06] <madewokherd> after that it was ok
[07:06] <GeorgeAScott> i just don't have the time...
[07:06] <Mysta_>  GeorgeAScott: I dual-boot, but I plan on running windows inside of ubuntu via VMware once I get my laptop
[07:06] <tomasz> ok, general question => how to modify MAC adress of an ethernet card during the instalation of Ubuntu ?
[07:07] <aLPHa_LeaK> g'day
[07:07] <cheziyi> almenfors, a google search gave me VirgoFTP and Pure FTP Server as linux servers with a gui
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> a server with a gui... :P
[07:07] <Mysta_> proftpd has a gui interface -> gproftpd
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> 'a gui configuration tool'
[07:08] <almenfors> Mysta_, that sounds good. how do i  get it =)
[07:08] <Mysta_> hello alpha
[07:08] <almenfors> cheziyi,  how do i uninstall this one ? lol
[07:08] <Mysta_> search google for proftpd or gproftpd
[07:08] <Mysta_> almenfors: there is also a good HOWTO on the forums. u want the link?
[07:08] <cheziyi> almenfors, if you used apt-get, you can just do a apt-get uninstall
[07:09] <ShellMaza> Dr_Willis
[07:09] <GaiaX11> madewokherd, did you do that using no gui, say, in recovery mode? Or were you in gnome or kde?
[07:09] <GeorgeAScott> Mysta_now does the ubuntu machine need a static ip and a direct conenction.. or is it ok that it's on a home network?
[07:09] <kane777> some software for VPN??
[07:09] <ShellMaza> waz up
[07:09] <Samuli^> apt-get uninstall?
[07:09] <Samuli^> more like remove or purge
[07:09] <LinuxJones> tomasz: open another terminal ctrl+alt+ f3 and do ifconfig ethx hw ether xxxxxxxxxxxx
[07:09] <ShellMaza> Running Dapper Now With No Video Driver Problems :)
[07:09] <madewokherd> GaiaX11: I think I started the upgrade from a terminal in gnome
[07:09] <Mysta_> GeorgeAScott: should be fine, all my clients are DHCP'd right now
[07:09] <almenfors> Mysta_, sure
[07:09] <madewokherd> but I wasn't able to get into a gui after it was interrupted
[07:09] <GeorgeAScott> i've never touched rd till yesterday
[07:10] <madewokherd> I don't think I needed recovery mode though
[07:10] <Mysta_> you'll just have to keep checking to see if the IP changed
[07:10] <cheziyi> Samuli^, yea your're right
[07:10] <madewokherd> if the gui is the only thing that fails, you can still log into a text only thing
[07:10] <LinuxJones> tomasz: with ethx being like eth0 or eth1
[07:10] <megaman123> trying to compile a plugin and getting this error: data.h:38: warning: 'class cScanDir' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor
[07:10] <tomasz> LinuxJones: I did that, although It didn't change the HW adress
[07:11] <madewokherd> but recovery mode should work
[07:11] <kane777>  some software for VPN??
[07:11] <cheziyi> almenfors, i gotta turn in... i think Mysta_ can help you with proftpd or gproftpd
[07:11] <Mysta_> almenfors: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588&highlight=proftpd
[07:11] <LinuxJones> tomasz: you did it using sudo right ?
[07:11] <LinuxJones> tomasz: or in a root terminal
[07:11] <almenfors> i cant get svftpd uninstalled lol
[07:12] <g0dchild> Is there anyone good at translation/localization?
[07:12] <cheziyi> almenfors, #sudo apt-get remove vsftpd?
[07:12] <GeorgeAScott> babelfish traslates
[07:13] <g0dchild> I need some help to begin working with gnome- and then ubuntu :) - yes, i know about rosetta too
[07:13] <ShellMaza> how do i remove toem and rmybox
[07:13] <peruano> hi, i got this problem, how can i type 3 lines commands without press enter
[07:13] <almenfors> Mysta_, well remove worked alot better then uninstall hehe
[07:13] <tomasz> LinuxJones: Isn't the terminal available during installation the root one by default ?
[07:14] <LinuxJones> tomasz: I can't remember for sure but if you see # that means it's a root terminal
[07:14] <Mysta_> almenfors: I have no idea what u are refering to
[07:14] <Spec> or type: whoami
[07:14] <whaley> peruano, *i think* you just need to place & after each command
[07:14] <floppyears> hi
[07:14] <ShellMaza> i am ShellMaza :P
[07:14] <almenfors> Mysta_, nm something the other guy said ^^
[07:14] <floppyears> hi
[07:14] <peruano> ok, thank u whaley
[07:14] <rightcoast> hello all
[07:14] <LinuxJones> tomasz: you have to be past the part where the installer auto-detects your network card as well :)
[07:15] <hackel> Us there a solution yet to all these damn FUTEX_WAIT / glibc errors stalling programs?  It's getting unbearable!
[07:15] <tomasz> LinuxJones: I can see "~#" to be exact :), ifconfig sees eth0, and I'll try again now ...
[07:15] <rightcoast> does anyone remember the shell script from mr bass's site for hoary?
[07:16] <rightcoast> well using http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper and http://www.krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide I have revamped it I think it is about ready for dapper
[07:16] <rightcoast> ill test it tonight
[07:17] <tomasz> LinuxJones: Didn't work, probably somethink with the ethernet driver is not quite as it should be
[07:17] <wims> !apache
[07:17] <ubotu> apache is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:17] <rightcoast> do you think there would be interest in this? or is automatix enough and have it covered?
[07:17] <LinuxJones> tomasz: :(
[07:17] <rightcoast> im new to ubuntu really. .. i dont know the particulars of the inside info
[07:18] <roryy> rightcoast: i believe the #ubuntu favoured solution is easyubuntu
[07:18] <rightcoast> right, ive seen that one too. is source available for either?
[07:18] <rightcoast> i havent looked yet
[07:18] <roryy> rightcoast: i'd guess for both
[07:18] <TheBigToe> do I have my partitions set up correctly?
[07:18] <TheBigToe> http://abs.gprime.net/partitions.jpg
[07:18] <roryy> !tell rightcoast about easyubuntu
[07:18] <elknof1> hi everybody
[07:19] <g0dchild> eliphas_, hello doktor nik :)
[07:19] <TheBigToe> and also, is 5.10 still the latest or is dapper out officially yet>
[07:19] <TheBigToe> ?
[07:19] <roryy> rightcoast: also #easyubuntu
[07:19] <elknof1> does enybody knows how to enable the tv s-video out on an ATI? -the drivers are already installed-
[07:19] <LinuxJones> tomasz: >> I guess you have to bring the card down before hand >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address#Changing_MAC_addresses
[07:19] <elknof1> in 5.10
[07:19] <kane777> hi people... is it safe to install new Nvidia drivers?? (Should I install it if I have Riva TNT 2 m64???)
[07:20] <rightcoast> thanks roryy brb
[07:21] <elknof1> somebody knows how ton install limewire?
[07:21] <ShellMaza> elknolf
[07:21] <ShellMaza> 1 second
[07:21] <elknof1> thanks
[07:21] <kane777> hi people... is it safe to install new Nvidia drivers?? (Should I install it if I have Riva TNT 2 m64???)
[07:22] <Miken> hello all
[07:22] <Bazzi> are there any popular games repositories? for stuff like enemy territory, unreal tournament etc.
[07:22] <TheBigToe> do I have my partitions set up right to install Ubuntu?
[07:22] <doidim> oi
[07:22] <TheBigToe> http://abs.gprime.net/partitions.jpg
[07:22] <eggzeck> !games
[07:22] <ubotu> games is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[07:22] <danilo> uhbg
[07:22] <doidim> cole doido
[07:22] <Miken> questions about hal in dapper
[07:23] <Miken> what does hal do?
[07:23] <ShellMaza> http://www.limewire.com/english/content/downloadfree2.shtml
[07:23] <Sjors> Anyone knows how to install Ubuntu on a SATA Hardisk?
[07:23] <ShellMaza> get other, and uzip the contents
[07:23] <Miken> if i see a device ther, does it mean you can use the devices?
[07:23] <NoUse> !tell Miken about hal
[07:23] <ShellMaza> let me know when ur ready
[07:23] <doidim> fala alguma coisa danilo !
[07:23] <eggzeck> TheBigToe: the install cd will do all of that for you automatically
[07:23] <rightcoast> roryy, wow nice program python for gtk and qt
[07:23] <doidim> oi larry
[07:23] <GaiaX11> madewokherd, do i have to chage my source.list repos from breezy to Dapper to upgrade then?
[07:23] <danilo> fala  ze
[07:23] <TheBigToe> eggzeck, last time I installed I couldn't do it
[07:23] <Bazzi> eggzeck, thanks, but I'd like to utilize apt for that, just like gentoo has the installers/patches in portage
[07:24] <TheBigToe> but I'll try it in the installer this time though
[07:24] <TheBigToe> ok
[07:24] <Flannel> GaiaX11: no, just follow the instructions on the wiki page.  No editing required.
[07:24] <madewokherd> there's a wiki page?
[07:24] <Sjors> Anyone knows how to install Ubuntu on a SATA Hardisk?
[07:24] <roryy> rightcoast: have fun ;)
[07:24] <Miken> thanks NoUse, but I am asking if I see the device in Hal does it mean it has already driver support?
[07:24] <Flannel> !upgrade
[07:24] <eggzeck> Bazzi: what are you talking about?
[07:25] <elknof1> ok unpacked
[07:25] <doidim> n
[07:25] <Flannel> !tell madewokherd about upgrade
[07:25] <GaiaX11> Flannel, Point me ther please.
[07:25] <NoUse> Miken not necesarily
[07:25] <Flannel> !tell GaiaX11 about upgrade
[07:25] <instabin1> !tinygento
[07:25] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, instabin1
[07:25] <rightcoast> Looks like it will be far supior to what I have done, I think I will release it anyway, sh has its uses :D
[07:25] <GaiaX11> Thanks, Flannel
[07:25] <doidim> Alguem do Brasil ai ???????????????????????????????????????/
[07:25] <elknof1> ShellMaza: ready
[07:25] <NoUse> !br
[07:25] <rightcoast> s/supior/superior
[07:25] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:25] <doidim> BRASIL ???????????????????????/
[07:25] <GaiaX11> Sim
[07:25] <Bazzi> eggzeck, well portage has game installers and patches ready. I havent found an apt repository yet which provides the same functionality
[07:25] <Sjors> Anyone knows how to install Ubuntu on a SATA Hardisk?
[07:25] <green_earz> Miken: not all ways, some time the module as not being enable in the kernel config or you need to install the module your self from source
[07:25] <ShellMaza> did u unzip?
[07:26] <Miken> does dapper has then native support for BCM4306 wi fi? HAL recognises it as device
[07:26] <elknof1> yeap
[07:26] <eggzeck> Bazzi: oh, sorry I forgot you were the one asking about games. And I'm sorry I'm not a gamer :)
[07:26] <danilo> alguem  flameguista
[07:26] <GaiaX11> But you have to talk English here, doidim
[07:26] <ShellMaza> ok, give me a minute, trying to find jre for Dapper
[07:26] <yancheng> anyone how to add new MIME file type in firefox, in order to suppoer jnlp java web start
[07:26] <doidim> vc e d onde ???
[07:26] <elknof1> hum..   im working in 5.10
[07:26] <Miken> i read in some sites that its now supported but can't seem to get it up
[07:26] <NoUse> !tell doidim about br
[07:26] <elknof1> and i have already installed jre
[07:26] <Sjors> Anyone knows how to install Ubuntu on a SATA Hardisk?
[07:27] <Bazzi> eggzeck, I'm not that much of one either but I'd like to spread the penguin to gamers as well, but the current installation procedures for them are unbearable
[07:27] <doidim> No
[07:27] <ShellMaza> i upgraded to Dapper
[07:27] <elknof1> hey
[07:27] <elknof1> ShellMaza: done
[07:27] <doidim> Ustedes ablas espanol ???
[07:27] <elknof1> si
[07:27] <GaiaX11> doidim,  sim, But you have to talk English here.
[07:27] <elknof1> yo hablo espaol
[07:27] <Sjors> Anyone knows how to install Ubuntu on a SATA Hardisk?
[07:28] <elknof1> lol...  is that a restriction??
[07:28] <doidim> hablas Portugues(brasil)
[07:28] <GaiaX11> elknof1, Yo tambn
[07:28] <NoUse> doidim type "/join #ubuntu-br"
[07:28] <elknof1> doidim: no
[07:28] <ShellMaza> im having to install it from source
[07:28] <rightcoast> elknof1, why not seperate rooms make things easier IMO
[07:28] <ShellMaza> since their is no jre package
[07:29] <Sjors> Can some1 plz react on my Q?
[07:29] <Sjors> Anyone knows how to install Ubuntu on a SATA Hardisk?
[07:29] <rightcoast> but hey i just got here :D
[07:29] <Miken> has anybody here managed to get wifi cards with bcm4306 working under dapper? In breezy I got it working with ndiswrapper, but since upgrade doesn't come up
[07:29] <Peppe> hmm
[07:29] <desertpenguin> question: How do i update the man pages to include system calls like waitpid() or execle()?
[07:29] <rightcoast> Sjors, it should be supported in the kernel
[07:29] <rightcoast> in other words it should work fine as is
[07:29] <elknof1> ShellMaza: i have Limewire working by now...  i forgot i had to run the runLime.sh   something trivial...  lol
[07:29] <Sjors> I use 5.10
[07:30] <ShellMaza> im on dapper
[07:30] <danilo> falar  o nome   do  danilo
[07:30] <rightcoast> IIRC that is what 2.6.10???
[07:30] <rightcoast> should work too
[07:30] <Peppe> I get this when starting the LiveCD: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7800/img39434za.jpg
[07:30] <Peppe> anyone knows what to do?
[07:30] <Sjors> And it try's to regocnize it as an SCI Device
[07:30] <NoUse> peppe try adding the 'nofb' option
[07:31] <Peppe> the whatnow?
[07:31] <rightcoast> hmm, i don't have a sata drive, so im not sure, i know i read somewhere it's been supported a while
[07:31] <Sjors> And it try's to regocnize it as an SCI Device
[07:31] <rightcoast> sorry i dont know more myself
[07:31] <Sjors> k, np
[07:31] <kane777> do you see what I'm writing??? (just need to know if I'm connected correctly...)
[07:31] <NoUse> peppe read the help options at the boot menu about boot options
[07:31] <NoUse> peppe and then try the 'nofb' option
[07:31] <Peppe> hmm ok
[07:31] <Peppe> :D
[07:31] <Peppe> ok thanks
[07:31] <Peppe> for
[07:31] <Peppe> ehm
[07:32] <larry52> Serial ATA (SATA) chipsets  Linux support status  http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[07:32] <Peppe> tipping me on the 'help'
[07:32] <Peppe> :)
[07:32] <ShellMaza> where is JRE for Dapper???
[07:32] <green_earz> kane777: no we can not see what you are writing
[07:32] <NoUse> Peppe I have you a specific option to try
[07:32] <Peppe> ?
[07:32] <NoUse> Peppe "nofb"
[07:32] <Peppe> :)
[07:32] <NoUse> Peppe for the 3rd time
[07:32] <Peppe> yes
[07:32] <Peppe> I heard you
[07:32] <Peppe> I'll try that
[07:32] <kane777> green_earz, thank you...
[07:33] <green_earz> np
[07:33] <roo_> how can I find out the make/model of my Hard drive? hdparm gives me no info as the drive is /dev/sda ..
[07:34] <Mysta_> roo_ are you in GUI or terminal?
[07:34] <fblade> hey guys
[07:34] <Mysta_> hello
[07:34] <roo_> Mysta_, im in GUI but I dont care how I find out :)
[07:34] <green_earz> roo_: hdparm -i /dev/hdx   x to be a b c d
[07:35] <roo_> green_earz, the drive isn't /dev/hda its /dev/sda, i said that from the off..
[07:35] <green_earz> ok
[07:36] <elknof1> a general question...  is a restriction the lenguage in this channel??  if yes, i suppose there are ubuntu channels in other lenguages isn't it?
[07:36] <fblade> im bored name something fun i can do on linux lol anything ?
[07:36] <iNiku> elknof1: this is an English language channel, and yes there are channels for other languages
[07:36] <elknof1> free surfing on the web... no viruses!!!  :D
[07:37] <almenfors> is there some way to remote control ubuntu from xp ?
[07:37] <iNiku> almenfors: you could use vnc
[07:37] <NoUse> fblade I think google has some stuff
[07:37] <iNiku> almenfors: x11vnc on the ubuntu box and vncviewer on windows
[07:38] <almenfors> iNiku, hmm i was hoping the remote desktop in xp would work hehe
[07:38] <iNiku> almenfors: or if you just want to run commands remotely, ssh
[07:38] <fblade> lol Well google does help with loads of past time, i want something like macromedia flash for linux anyideas?
[07:38] <iNiku> almenfors: actually, it might
[07:38] <Mysta_> almenfors: i use UltraVNC
[07:38] <NoUse> !tell fblade about flash
[07:38] <Mysta_> almenfors: RDP doesn't work to Linux machines
[07:38] <almenfors> ok how do i setup ubuntu for remote control?
[07:38] <fblade> no i dont mean flash player i ment flash as in buliding flash
[07:39] <S0me1> almenfors: you can from XP via vncview.exe but you will need setup VNC server on ubuntu
[07:39] <almenfors> im soo used to xp remote desktop hehe
[07:39] <iNiku> almenfors: sudo apt-get install x11vnc
[07:39] <Mysta_> almenfors: System -> Remote Desktop
[07:39] <Mysta_> to set it up
[07:39] <iNiku> Mysta_: oh, it's installed by default?
[07:39] <Mysta_> yep
[07:39] <Mysta_> I never installed anything
[07:39] <almenfors> Mysta_, oh it has built in remote?
[07:40] <Mysta_> almenfors: yes, I never installed anything, the only thing i had to do is enable it so it can accept incoming connections
[07:40] <S0me1> almenfors: also you can use rdesktop on ubuntu to connect to XP
[07:40] <almenfors> Mysta_, so basicly i only need vnc client on my cp machine
[07:40] <Mysta_> Then, i go back to my XP box, open UltraVNC, input my IP address to my ubuntu server, and BAM! I'm connected!
[07:41] <almenfors> Mysta_, xp machine*
[07:41] <Mysta_> huh?
[07:42] <almenfors> Mysta_, ok ill get right on that now.. brb
[07:43] <elknof1> does anybody knows how to enable s-video out with ATI?? -dirvers already installed-
[07:43] <TheBigToe> guys, the ubuntu installer won't resize my drives
[07:44] <TheBigToe> should I just add a linux drive and swap drive in PartitionMagic?
[07:44] <Mysta_> TheBigToe: did you download an ISO?
[07:44] <Mysta_> oh nvm it wont resize ya drives, i dont know about that
[07:45] <S0me1> TheBigToe: you can via qparted or use linux system rescue CD
[07:45] <TheBigToe> S0me1, why can't I just do it in Windows?
[07:46] <TheBigToe> I just need to know what size to make the linux and swap partitions
[07:46] <Mysta_> windows can only make ntfs and fat32 partitions
[07:46] <S0me1> TheBigToe: i never said Can not !
[07:46] <TheBigToe> and whether to make it ext2 or ext3
[07:46] <TheBigToe> Mysta_, I have PartitionMagic
[07:46] <S0me1> TheBigToe: oh
[07:46] <Mysta_> oh
[07:46] <Mysta_> well there ya go
[07:47] <TheBigToe> so, what sizes should I make the swap and main ubuntu drive?
[07:47] <elknof1> have somebody the tv s-video out enabled?
[07:47] <Mysta_> how big is the drive?
[07:47] <sha_> hello
[07:47] <ShellMaza> can i rebuild the kernel that comes with dapper with out breaking anything?
[07:47] <S0me1> TheBigToe: ext3 and swap 512 min and 7 G / that all
[07:47] <ShellMaza> like my nvidia drivers
[07:47] <benoy> hello all.  Is there a way to network two computers (windows XP desktop and a ubuntu Dapper laptop) using a wireless router?
[07:47] <TheBigToe> Mysta_, 80GB
[07:47] <S0me1> TheBigToe: as you want linux is small space need not big
[07:48] <Mysta_> well I've got 700gb and my swap isn't large at all
[07:48] <Mysta_> my / is 92gb
[07:48] <TheBigToe> S0me1, PartitionMagic recommends 15GB ext3 and 500mb swap
[07:48] <S0me1> anyway i must leaving now, see you late guys
[07:48] <Mysta_> see ya
[07:48] <xnull> mysta_ for what do you need 700Gb?
[07:49] <Mysta_> its a VMware server
[07:49] <S0me1> TheBigToe: ubuntu create the best when you choose AUTO
[07:49] <Mysta_> has virtual machines running on it
[07:49] <sha_> beny, if your wifi adpter is active on both computers, you will have to enable smb to see your shared folders on XP
[07:49] <xnull> mysta_: o.. how many ?
[07:49] <TheBigToe> ok S0me1
[07:49] <Mysta_> xnull: does it matter
[07:49] <S0me1> TheBigToe: ubuntu will check before install
[07:49] <S0me1> ok
[07:49] <S0me1> bye and see u late :P
[07:50] <sameer`> hi
[07:50] <sameer`> any body any experience with epson c46 printer
[07:50] <sha_> to see a linux machine from XP, it's more difficult. ANyway, if your XP is NTFS, it will not be supported anyway
[07:51] <bluefoxicy> Does anyone know how to insert newlines in Ubuntu's wiki?
[07:51] <bluefoxicy> aside from starting a new line
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[07:51] <almenfors> wohoo cool
[07:51] <almenfors> using remote control now. nice..
[07:52] <ferronica> any one know how to install JAVA from www.java.com
[07:52] <ferronica> from terminal window
[07:52] <red_Marvin> Can somebody help me get my cd-burner to work?
[07:52] <Mysta_> almenfors: gj, glad u got it working. now you can tell someone whenever the ask!
[07:53] <NoUse> bluefoxicy its in the "help on formatting" page [[BR] ] 
[07:53] <NoUse> !tell ferronica about jav
[07:53] <NoUse> !tell ferronica about java
[07:53] <sha_> for java, downlod the .gz and use the command line package manager
[07:53] <NoUse> ferronica read the link ubotu sent you
[07:54] <beanhead> hey can someone help me out? i installed via drivers via synaptic package manager and now i can't boot into xwindows/gnome. what do i do?
[07:54] <beanhead> (k8n800 unichrome pro chipset i think)
[07:55] <frfx> beanhead: have you tried startx?
[07:55] <NoUse> beanhead check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if it says what happend
[07:55] <sha_> probably update your grub config to use the most simple VGA MODE (ex = 784) ?
[07:55] <beanhead> yeah, no dice
[07:55] <Mystery47> beanhead: try to change xorg.conf
[07:55] <TLE> :quit
[07:55] <beanhead> xorg.conf says "vesa" :S
[07:55] <rkd> beanhead: Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select a working driver.
[07:55] <Mystery47> put nvidia there
[07:55] <myk> hi all. i'm trying to get my sound to work, but i don't hear anything. the Synaptic Package Manager says that both Alsa items are installed. Am I missing something or is there another step I need to do?
[07:56] <Mystery47> where is vesa
[07:56] <NoUse> Mystery47 he said Via, not nvidia
[07:56] <ShellMaza> WOW!!!! Ut 2003 runs ASWOME!
[07:56] <NoUse> !tell myk about sound
[07:56] <ferronica> hey guys is 6.06 (Dapper Drake) is released??
[07:56] <Mystery47> oh....im so shamed...:(
[07:56] <almenfors> anyone good at gproftpd ?
[07:56] <NoUse> ferronica no, Not until june
[07:56] <Mystery47> no?
[07:57] <ferronica> NoUse: okay
[07:57] <beanhead> vesa is what xorg.conf is set to for my graphics adapter...that's why i'm confused...but i'm gonna try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:57] <frantic> Sup? I need some help here. I cant make any folders at all on my harddrive, except from my desktop. I need to install Wine but I cant because I cant unzip the folder to the harddrive. I have put myself as a admin, but still doesnt help. Any suggestions?
[07:57] <beanhead> i thought if it were trying to use via it would have updated
[07:57] <NoUse> frantic you should install wine via synaptic
[07:57] <sha_> i don't know more, try looking for it on the websites
[07:58] <almenfors> Mysta_, hey..i get a wierd error from gproftpd
[07:58] <NoUse> frantic and you shouldn't be able to create folders outside of your home directoory
[07:58] <frantic> Oh, I will try that then NoUse.
[07:58] <almenfors> Mysta_, fatal error: unknown group nobody.
[07:58] <beanhead> hey sha_: where do i update grub config?
[07:58] <NoUse> beanhead I would try reconging xorg before altering grub
[07:58] <frantic> NoUse Thanks for the help and information :)
[07:59] <sha_> you should inscribe yourself in the root group
[07:59] <beanhead> NoUse: yes sir :)
[07:59] <beanhead> thanks every1 bbiab
[08:00] <tomasz> ok, another question: I had the mainboard (so ethernet card as well) replaced recently on my Ubuntu box. The DHCP server providing me with IP for that comp. has its MAC number registered. Obviously after the change it stoped sending IP (during boot network setup). Still I could bring up eth0 interface using graphical configuration tool (although it took ages). Any clues why it worked in the second case ???
[08:00] <sha_> in /boot/grub/menu
[08:00] <Mysta_> almenfors: i got the same error, let me see if i can find out what i did
[08:00] <almenfors> Mysta_, ok =)
[08:01] <Stormx2> How do I make ubuntu look in ~/bin when calling commands I've written?
[08:01] <myk> i'm getting a "permission denied" message when trying to create a director in /usr/src. how do i get permission to do so?
[08:01] <Hso> can someone tell me if it's possible to change icons in the panel? being more specific, the Firefox icon, I have leeched a pic of the proper firefox icon, and have resized and saved it as 20x20pixels and 24x24pixels.. however.. I just can't select them in the gui.. they're greyed out :( why is that?
[08:02] <ic5> Stormx2, add ~/ to your path. PATH=$PATH:~/
[08:02] <Hso>  myk - i think you need to change the access on that folder, in which case you'll need root access - i think
[08:02] <ic5> Stormx2, you need to put this in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile which ever you use
[08:02] <Hso> uh.. not access, i think attributes **
[08:03] <NoUse> Stormx2 here is section in .bash_profile you cna comment out
[08:03] <Frogzoo> Hso: are these .png files?
[08:03] <NoUse> Stormx2 that will enable it
[08:03] <Hso> Frogzoo, - yep, even tried jpg, got no where :(
[08:03] <ferronica> NoUse: send me again that java link
[08:03] <myk> Hso, iirc, we can't have root access. is that true?
[08:04] <NoUse> !tell ferronica about java
[08:04] <Hso> myk - you can, but I hear it's not advisable
[08:04] <Hso> but most things can be done using 'sudo' in the Terminal, i think...
[08:04] <blezzie> myk - get a shell, then sudo (use your own password) then at the prompt: mkdir /usr/src/<whatever>; then chown <your userid>  /usr/src/<whatever>, final exit the sudo session
[08:04] <Frogzoo> Stormx2: set the PATH variable in ~/.gnomerc
[08:04] <ilba7r> !easysource
[08:04] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:04] <sha_> for all problem of permission deied, I suggest to add youruser in root group and give the rights to the folder by a chmod 775 as a root user or by a sudo
[08:06] <Stormx2> I've got it guys
[08:06] <Stormx2> thanks
[08:06] <sha_> the chown cans make a problem if you dont allow root to access, with certain files
[08:06] <RandolphCarter> what?
[08:06] <RandolphCarter> never stick a user in root :/
[08:06] <Zoroaster> can I use apt-get to upgrade webmin?
[08:06] <ranpha> is there a package where you easly typ in you wpa key in 6.06?
[08:07] <DarkED> is there anyway to make a backup of my list of installed packages? (so if i had to reinstall i could have it reinstall them automatically)
[08:07] <sha_> for an admin it doesn't trouble
[08:07] <ferronica1> NoUse: what dose this line means ---Make the downloaded file executable. At the command line, change to the directory where you downloaded the file, and type:
[08:07] <RandolphCarter> DarkED: dpkg --get-selections
[08:07] <RandolphCarter> you can pipe that file through aptitude to install the same setup
[08:08] <RandolphCarter> sha_: put them in the admin group, but don't make a user root :/
[08:08] <DarkED> RandolphCarter, ok, thanks a bunch
[08:08] <RandolphCarter> most access denied problems can be fixed by setting proper file permissions
[08:08] <RandolphCarter> DarkED: np's
[08:08] <rkd> Are there any good WYSIWYG editors for Ubuntu? Nvu is kind of buggy and hasn't been updated for a year.
[08:08] <NoUse> ferronica it means type what the say there
[08:08] <NoUse> ferronica it makes it so the package can be run
[08:08] <frantic> NoUse Is synaptic included in Ubuntu or do I need to download it and install it? Because I cant really find it in Ubuntu and I got problems installing it.
[08:09] <NoUse> !tell frantic about synaptic
[08:09] <ic5> frantic, what type of install did you do? Server or regular?
[08:09] <frantic> ic5, Regular
[08:10] <DarkED> frantic, go to system settings
[08:10] <ic5> frantic, then it is there.
[08:10] <NoUse> rkd you can try quanta but Wysiwyg editors are in general bad :-)
[08:10] <DarkED> frantic, system menu, you should see synaptic package manager
[08:10] <DarkED> frantic, its not in the apps list
[08:10] <klm-> how can I change my chatting nick in gaim? is there a command for that?
[08:10] <DarkED> klm: in gaim options
[08:11] <NoUse> klm- for IRC? /nick <newnick>
[08:11] <frantic> ah, then I know what it is :)
[08:11] <frantic> Thanks guys.
[08:11] <DarkED> nouse: he means gaim im :D
[08:11] <DarkED> frantic: np
[08:11] <Hso> anyone? how can I change icons in the Gnome Panel?
[08:11] <ranpha> How can you use WPA in Dapper???? i see a lot with thewpa_supplicant but dapper doesn't have i anymore
[08:12] <mantono> !ntpd
[08:12] <ubotu> mantono: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:12] <harisund> Hso If I recollect right, you can right click on the icon, Properties and then there is an option in that to change the icon.
[08:12] <NoUse> ranpha dapper questions are in #ubuntu+1
[08:12] <harisund> mantono what's ntpd?
[08:12] <almenfors> Mysta_, i got it working
[08:12] <Hso> harisund, yes, but, i cannot select ANY image file at all :( they're all grey >_<;; is that an access problem?
[08:12] <harisund> Hso then I am not sure :( sorry
[08:13] <Hso> mehhhhhhhh
[08:13] <mantono> harisund: I don't know for sure, that's why I asked
[08:13] <harisund> mantono are you looking for the ntp time synchronization server?
[08:13] <robT> Hso, I have had that grey-out icon changing problem. To get around it you can type the path of the image directly. Seems to work
[08:13] <avoine> Someone know try zope in with ubuntu?
[08:13] <nickrud> Hso, is this dapper?
[08:13] <frfx> i have an usb wlan adapter.if i pull the adapter out of the usb port and i pull it back in, i must go to System > Network and activate the wireless network.is there no simplier way?
[08:13] <mantono> Now, I'm not looking for anything, I just saw a talking about it and I didn't know what it was.
[08:14] <crazy_penguin> hi all. re
[08:14] <tomasz> Hm, I got "The grub package failed to install into /target/" error at the very end of installation of 6.06. What can I do about that ?
[08:14] <ferronica1> NoUse; i hav saved it om desktop. now how to change directory
[08:14] <Prodoc> hi
[08:14] <halen> hi
[08:14] <Oldsage> I have an installation question, can anyone help?
[08:14] <Cyphir> sure ill try
[08:14] <harisund> Oldsage, just ask .. hopefully someone can answer
[08:14] <NoUse> ferronica cd ~/Desktop
[08:15] <NoUse> !tell ferronica about commands
[08:15] <amphi> Oldsage: just ask
[08:15] <Hso> nickrud, I'm using 5.10, I'm not sure what the name is ~_~
[08:15] <sha_> depends on the files assigned to adm group, personnaly i was bored to add it everywhere but not anywhere
[08:15] <Hso> dapper drake is 6.10, isn't it?
[08:15] <Hso> robT - hmmmmmmm#
[08:15] <nickrud> Hso, then see robT
[08:15] <Oldsage> I am trying to install on a G3 mac, the CD does not automatically boot to install, how do I force it?
[08:15] <Hso> any idea what pixel size the icon should/needs_to be?
[08:15] <Hso> heh
[08:15] <ferronica1> NoUse; chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:15] <frfx> !dapper
[08:15] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[08:15] <Cyphir> Oldsage; sorry dont know anything about macs =P
[08:16] <ferronica1> NoUse; i think this command i hav to use
[08:16] <itrebal> does ubuntu support USB audio?
[08:16] <NoUse> ferronica1 thats the one they gave you in the docs, so thats correct
[08:16] <mjr> itrebal, yes
[08:16] <itrebal> (the default kernel)
[08:16] <frfx>  i have an usb wlan adapter.if i pull the adapter out of the usb port and i pull it back in, i must go to System > Network and activate the wireless network.is there no simplier way?
[08:16] <nickrud> Hso, I ask because I'm having a heck of a time doing it in dapper (& I know, ubuntu+1, later)
[08:16] <aapje> Hello. I was running the latest version of the Ubuntu live cd today, and was unable to visit webpages while running Ubuntu. Can anybody tell me why? I have a normal (intel) ethernet card that came with my dell pc. Do I need to configure something?
[08:16] <DarkED> itrebal: I know that usb mic/headsets work with it...
[08:16] <Hso> lol
[08:16] <ferronica1> NoUse; no change in the command just copy paste???
[08:16] <itrebal> thanks, gues
[08:17] <NoUse> ferronica1 yes, they give you the exact command to run, you don't need to change anything
[08:17] <Ayabara> I need a vnc client application. any recommendations?
[08:18] <Cyphir> anyone here use a composite manager?
[08:18] <Hso> :) thanks robT, it worked! shame it didn't change the icon for the pulldown menu, though :P
[08:18] <amphi> Oldsage: command-c at boottime, or some similar key combo - some meta-c, IIRC, to make it boot from cd
[08:18] <ferronica1> NoUse; chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
[08:18] <Prodoc> small question: (probably an obvious one but just in case) I want to install Dapper Drake from the beginning to do some bug testing in it's final stages, do you prefer me installing beta 2 or Flight 7?
[08:18] <Cyphir> ferronical; where is the file located
[08:18] <aapje> Should internet not work by default on an Ubuntu live CD. I think it's very strange I can't connect to webpages.. do I need to load a special driver or something?
[08:18] <Cyphir> ferronical; in your desktop, home folder?
[08:18] <robT> yeah, think it must be some kind of bug, not sure of the cause... :S
[08:19] <harisund> aapje what sort of internet? Wired or wireless?
[08:19] <ferronica1> Cyphir: On Desktop i saved
[08:19] <Cyphir> ferronical; do this on terminal first
[08:19] <NoUse> ferronica1 what is the name of the file you downloaded?
[08:19] <aapje> Wired, i have a standard intel ethernet card that came with my pc.
[08:19] <Cyphir> ferronical; cd ~/Desktop
[08:19] <Cyphir> ferronical; make sure the "D" in desktop is capitilized
[08:19] <Oldsage> already tried that one.(command c)... is there a program on the disk that I can clik to start the process
[08:19] <ferronica1> NoUse; jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:19] <robT> only seemed to affect certain files for me
[08:19] <aapje> It works perfectly under windows, just plug it in and I have internet.
[08:19] <eggzeck> aapje: it would work fine, you may have to reset the modem and then deactivate the card then activate it.
[08:20] <Hso> o.O NoUse, why don't you just install java through easyubuntu?
[08:20] <aapje> I don't have a modem. How do I reset the card from Ubuntu?
[08:20] <Cyphir> ferronical; try in this order cd ~/Desktop and then chmod +x your file
[08:20] <robT> or try automatix to install java
[08:20] <NoUse> Hso I've never used it, they asked about java, I sent them to the wiki page about java
[08:21] <tomasz> Any hints on how to fix  "The grub package failed to install into /target/" problem during installation ?
[08:21] <eggzeck> aapje: It's in System->Administeration->Networking
[08:21] <ferronica1> Cyphir; cd -/Desktop +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:21] <Hso>  easyubuntu is *really* easy
[08:21] <Cyphir> ferronical; no try this
[08:21] <almenfors> Mysta_, thanks alot now i got it operational.. now to the boring part of creating the user list. forgot to backup before changing from 2k3 server lol
[08:21] <Cyphir> ferronical; what is your username?
[08:21] <czubin> when odering cd's from shipit , which version of ubuntu will it contain? 6.06?
[08:21] <Cyphir> ferronical; the one you use to log in
[08:21] <ferronica1> Cyphir; Ferronica1
[08:21] <ferronica1> sorry
[08:22] <ferronica1> Cyphir; ferronica1
[08:22] <rkd> czubin: Most recent official release, so yeah, Breezy.
[08:22] <Cyphir> ferronical; k do this cd /home/ferronical/Desktop
[08:22] <aapje> Are you sure these cards should work by default on Ubuntu live?
[08:22] <Hso> NoUse - http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html copy/paste the text in the first orange box into your Terminal press enter and then you'll get a GUI.. find and check Java and then click okay.. it's straight forward from there :)
[08:22] <ferronica1> Cyphir; use one to address me
[08:22] <amphi> Oldsage: I'm sure it's one of the meta-keys and c, that worked on an ibook I installed debian on
[08:22] <Mystery47> now you can order dapper drake....
[08:22] <rkd> czubin: Not sure what happens if Dapper's released between you ordering and them sending.
[08:23] <Mystery47> orders is waiting until 1. day
[08:23] <Prodoc> I guess it should be Flight 7 than?
[08:23] <czubin> rkd: I'm hoping for dapper
[08:23] <sha_> ok, bye everybody
[08:23] <ferronica1> Cyphir; Ok after that
[08:23] <ferronica1> Cyphir; i am on desktop now
[08:23] <Oldsage> It looks to the CD... can't find anything it wants to find, then goes to OS 9.   When I open the disk there are 11 folders but no programs that I can open?
[08:24] <Cyphir> ferronical; now chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:24] <aapje> Btw, how can I access my harddisk from winXP (ntfs)?
[08:24] <Skeletonix> Hello!
[08:24] <rkd> czubin: Best bet is to wait a fortnight, then.
[08:24] <amphi> Oldsage: strange - are you sure it's the correct disk? and not corrupted?
[08:24] <czubin> rkd: yeah , I need them in stock if someone's going to ask for them after the release :)
[08:25] <Oldsage> I have downloaded the dist 8 times so far, each time it does the same thing :(
[08:25] <erez> aapje: do you mean from ubuntu accessing an ntfs device/partition?
[08:25] <aapje> yes erez.
[08:25] <rkd> czubin: In stock?
[08:26] <ferronica1> Cyphir; again on desktop
[08:26] <erez> aapje: you need to mount the device/partition , that way you will be able to read it.
[08:26] <Cyphir> ferronical; did it work
[08:26] <czubin> rkd: well I'm like a contact point in belgium if people are going to want a demostration or something of ubuntu
[08:26] <amphi> Oldsage: damn - you checked the md5sum?
[08:26] <Skeletonix> Hello!
[08:26] <czubin> therefor the cd's :)
[08:26] <ferronica1> Cyphir: i am in desktop command
[08:26] <Cyphir> ferronical; not type jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:26] <ferronica1> Cyphir: /Desktop$
[08:26] <amphi> Oldsage: you burnt it on a mac?
[08:26] <Cyphir> ferronical; now sorry
[08:26] <Cyphir> ferronical; type jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:27] <rkd> czubin: See if you can get preferential treatment from the Ubuntu devs, then.
[08:27] <erez> aapje: i know that writing it isn't recomanded, but i don't know how to to it, and never tried.
[08:27] <Oldsage> No, I have no mac that I can burn it on...
[08:27] <Cyphir> ferronicall SORRY chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:27] <marcie> hi. I'm having a problem with Open Office. When i tried to reinstall it asked for my CD and ran into the same problem. How can i get the synaptic manager to download it instead of going for my (bad) disk
[08:27] <czubin> rkd: I'm hoping the organisation is going to fix it for me ;)
[08:27] <green_earz> Oldsage: are you downloading the iso image by  bittorent ? or http  ?
[08:28] <Skeletonix> sorry I have never been doing with ogg. In sound juicer is set as default this:
[08:28] <Skeletonix> udio/x-raw-float,rate=44100,channels=2 ! vorbisenc name=enc quality=0.5 ! oggmux
[08:28] <Skeletonix> what bitrate is it?
[08:28] <BULLE> does ubuntu support raid1 mirrors and lvm on top of it, for the root fs ?
[08:28] <amphi> Oldsage: as an exeriment, perhaps you could try burning and booting the sysresccd.org iso, there's a ppc version
[08:28] <Oldsage> http
[08:28] <ferronica1> Cyphir: /Desktop$
[08:28] <ferronica1> Cyphir: same
[08:28] <amphi> Oldsage: that's a handy cd to have around anyway
[08:28] <aapje> why can't ubuntu do this by default?
[08:28] <jacksparrow> 'hi all
[08:28] <Cyphir> ferronical; yes now in terminal copy this command chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:28] <ferronica1> Cyphir: after typing above command
[08:28] <Cyphir> ferronical; k
[08:28] <jacksparrow> Which application can I use as like as dc++?
[08:28] <ferronica1> Cyphir: i did
[08:29] <Chris_Tucker> i have jre 1.4 .. but the plugin isnt correctly installed to work with firefox... where would i find the .so or whatever to link it to my firefox plugins directory?
[08:29] <marcie> anyone know where i could get the documentation as to how to reinstall office not off my CD?
[08:29] <Cyphir> feronical; now you can modify or install jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:29] <Cyphir> feronnical; without getting "Perrmisson denied"
[08:29] <amphi> marcie: apt-get install --reinstall openoffice.org or whatever
[08:29] <Sanne> Chris_Tucker, this may help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ef347c277a133b64af0600bd1bf24bc64e7038b8
[08:29] <green_earz> Oldsage: the best method is by bittorent. reason it check the completed file for errors. if you downlaod by http check the file to its md5sum
[08:30] <marcie> thanks amphi, i'll try that...
[08:30] <malegria> hi. can anybody tell me how i can make a firefox update in my breezy badger?
[08:30] <Oldsage> ok, I will try both the sysrec cd and bittorent and see what happens
[08:30] <green_earz> ok
[08:31] <rkd> Hey, anyone know what the procedure for getting a package into the Ubuntu repos is? Listen (listen.freegnome.fr, I think) looks cool, and they already have the Ubuntu .debs.
[08:31] <Cyphir> anyone here use a composite manager
[08:31] <ramonsa> I would like to thank this forum for yesterday's help with a blurry image in display. Followed advice (change video resolution) and problem seems solved. So far anyway!
[08:32] <ferronica1> Cyphir: Ok done
[08:33] <ferronica1> Cyphir: now how to confirm it is installed
[08:33] <ferronica1> Cyphir: i hav downloaded it from java.com directly
[08:33] <Cyphir> ferronical; im not sure, try it
[08:33] <frfx> !ff1.5
[08:33] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:34] <Cyphir> ferronical; go to System --> Preferences --> and see if Java is there
[08:34] <CyaniCs> has anyone gotten evolution to work with ical's?
[08:34] <CyaniCs> nevermind. forgot i got it working.
[08:35] <ferronica1> Cyphir: nope
[08:35] <ferronica1> Cyphir: use ferronica1 not ferronical
[08:35] <Mort_Cinder> hi, i need help. banshee stops playing after 1 second and crashes, same for amarok. and beep says couldnt open audio???
[08:35] <frantic> I do really need some help to get Wine down here. I have tried what it says on the Wine-homepage to install it for ubuntu, but it will download it for AMD-64 (but there aint no Wine 64bit version). So how do I tell Synaptic to download the package from a another adress?
[08:36] <Cyphir> ferronical; i don't see the difference =S anyway
[08:36] <Cyphir> ferronical; use automatix it wil install java automatically
[08:37] <CyaniCs> #frantic try using automatix to install wine
[08:37] <CyaniCs> works pretty well getting it setup
[08:37] <frantic> CyaniCs, Included or need to download it?
[08:37] <CyaniCs> download.
[08:37] <frantic> Okey
[08:37] <frantic> I will try it
[08:37] <Flundran> im never gonna learn this..what was the command for install again?
[08:37] <Flundran> 0
[08:38] <erlend_> hey. i was wondering how one can configure openoffice to have that nice GTK2 look that it has in the default installation of ubuntu ?
[08:38] <amphi> Flundran: apt-get install foo ?
[08:38] <Flundran> ty
[08:38] <Evil_JR> can anyone tell me how long does it take for ubuntu live to start?
[08:39] <CyaniCs> #Evil_JR - almost instantly.
[08:39] <mutante> that depends on the speed of your cd-rom drive
[08:39] <ramonsa> Question: I have problem burning data cd's. I am able to copy music CD's with K3b but no luck when attempt to backup data. I try to use gksudo k3b but get error message  "cannot fwrite 32768*1
[08:39] <ramonsa> "
[08:39] <Evil_JR> ok weird
[08:39] <amphi> erlend_: dunno; I've wanted to change the interface font, but I don't use OO much, and never looked into it
[08:39] <mutante> and the amount of RAM, i think
[08:39] <Evil_JR> cause mine gets stcuk at the brown screen at the end
[08:39] <tr1gg3r> erlend_, openoffice gnome support pkg i think
[08:39] <Evil_JR> all i have right now is a brown screen
[08:39] <mutante> hmm,forget that if it gets really stuck
[08:39] <Evil_JR> can anyone help me?
[08:39] <Sanne> !automatix
[08:39] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[08:39] <erlend_> tr1gg3r: ah, ok, i'll look into that
[08:39] <CyaniCs> #Evil_JR is your drive still spinning?
[08:39] <beta_m> Evil_JR:  what brown screen
[08:40] <beta_m> what's on there?
[08:40] <beta_m> what came before?
[08:40] <amphi> ramonsa: did you try with cdrecord?
[08:40] <spikeb> wish easyubuntu actually worked properly on ppc
[08:40] <CyaniCs> tell me about !easyubuntu
[08:40] <ramonsa> amphi Not yet
[08:40] <CyaniCs> ubotu tell me about !easyubuntu
[08:40] <Evil_JR> CyaniCs it stoped
[08:40] <erlend_> tr1gg3r: thanks (forgot to say that ;) )
[08:40] <tr1gg3r> np
[08:40] <mutante> easybuntu?
[08:40] <salah> hi. my package system is broken. how do I fix this? it says I should type "apt-get -f install" but when I do so, I get asked for removing all packages on my machine
[08:41] <sha_> man apt-get ?
[08:41] <Sanne> CyaniCs, you can do: /msg ubotu keyword
[08:42] <CyaniCs> ah.... thats the flag.
[08:42] <CyaniCs> thanks
[08:42] <Evil_JR> so does anyone know whats wrong?
[08:42] <CyaniCs> just googled it. haven't heard of easyubuntu before.
[08:42] <CyaniCs> #Evil_JR try screen flipping to the console
[08:42] <Flundran> were can i get ndiswrapper?
[08:42] <beta_m> Evil_JR:  what brown screen are you talking about? is it gnome start up?
[08:43] <Evil_JR> how do i do that?
[08:43] <beta_m> Evil_JR:  Alt+F# where # is 1-12
[08:43] <Evil_JR> beta_m when you start ubuntu live you  have to pick a bucnh of option like language and keyboard mapping
[08:43] <Evil_JR> and then after that it turns brown
[08:43] <Evil_JR> and the cd drive stops spinning
[08:44] <beta_m> hmmm, well do try flipping to a different console
[08:44] <beta_m> Alt+F2 or Alt+F3
[08:44] <harisund> Does anybody know what the scrollkeeper package does? Everytime there is an update to that, my machine stops at "Rebuilding the database. This may take some time"....
[08:44] <erlend_> tr1gg3r: strangely, though, it looks exactly the same after i install the openoffice.org-gnome package
[08:44] <rootaccess> is there wi-spy available for ubuntu
[08:44] <Flundran> found it.. now i need to know how to install .gz ffile
[08:45] <rootaccess> that i wouldn't have to compile...
[08:45] <mutante> Flundran: apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[08:45] <ubuntu> hello
[08:46] <mutante> rootaccess: wi-spy? you mean wardriving?
[08:46] <Evil_JR> hmm
[08:46] <Evil_JR> it still dosnt work
[08:46] <ferronica> any one used launchpad
[08:46] <ferronica> yet
[08:46] <Evil_JR> all i have is a borwon screen and my mouse
[08:46] <tr1gg3r> erlend_, hmm thats odd, it is possible restarting x could have an effect but i doubt it, i had that pkg installed from the start
[08:46] <erlend_> okay
[08:46] <CyaniCs> #Evil_JR can you move the mouse?
[08:46] <amphi> rootaccess: you don't mean iwspy?
[08:47] <Evil_JR> CyaniCs yes
[08:47] <ferronica> HELP!!!!
[08:48] <CyaniCs> #Evil_JR and when you hit alt+F1, nothing happens?
[08:48] <froud> say a person has no network on a machine, but wants to install packages not on the Install CD or apply updates. How can one produce a CD/DVD and configure apt to be able to use this new media? Pointers to a HowTo would be nice :-)
[08:48] <ferronica> regarding launchpad
[08:48] <Evil_JR> CyaniCs nothing
[08:48] <mutante> froud: no networks as in "no internet" or no network at all, also no LAN
[08:48] <Evil_JR> would it have anything to do that im using a tablet?
[08:48] <CyaniCs> #Evil_JR - and if you hit the scrolll lock or caps lock button, do you lights change?
[08:49] <frantic> How do Terminal Service Client work?
[08:49] <Evil_JR> CyaniCs yes
[08:49] <froud> no networks at all
[08:49] <ferronica> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:49] <CyaniCs> #Evil_JR then something has hung in the gnome-sessions startup. you might have incompatible hardware.
[08:49] <mutante> froud: you could just copy .deb files on a cd and then use dpkg -i package, but i guess you want them to be real apt sources,hm?
[08:49] <amphi> froud: apt-cdrom perhaps
[08:49] <Evil_JR> oh ok
[08:49] <Evil_JR> thanks
[08:51] <froud> amphi: 10X thx
[08:51] <frantic> How do Terminal Service Client work?
[08:51] <Sanne> froud, dunno about CD-ROMs, but for a local directory I do: put debs into directory, make a packages.gz file, and add this directory to my sources.list.
[08:51] <frantic> Server*
[08:51] <RancidLM> hey all just wondering i have a directory and i want to delete all the files in  recursevly that have an extension... ie" test.dat" but want to leave files that Donot have exsentnions.. ie "test"  can any one help me with the "rm" command?
[08:52] <CyaniCs> rm -rf *.dat
[08:52] <CyaniCs> man rm
[08:52] <RancidLM> CyaniCs: that would work but not all the extensions are .dat files.. i need any thing that contains a "." init really
[08:53] <amphi> RancidLM: or rm *.* for any name with any extension
[08:53] <amphi> RancidLM: or rather, any filename with a '.' in it
[08:53] <ferronica> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:53] <CyaniCs> "find . |grep ."
[08:53] <ferronica> HELP!!!!
[08:54] <RancidLM> amphi: thanks. thats what i was thinking but wasn't to sure :)  thnx CyaniCs
[08:54] <ferronica> HELP!!!!
[08:54] <NoUse> ferronica please be patient and don't help
[08:54] <amphi> ferronica: sudo apt-get update
[08:54] <NoUse> ferronica please be patient and don't yell*
[08:54] <CyaniCs> can someone kick ferronica for yelling and spamming
[08:54] <clarity_> how do I mount a usb flash drive in ubuntu?
[08:54] <ferronica> sorryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[08:54] <roo_> clarity_, has it not auto-mounted?
[08:54] <clarity_> nope... it auto-mounts in /mnt right?
[08:54] <CyaniCs> #ferronica - your repo is offline.
[08:54] <clarity_> or it should show up in df?
[08:55] <amphi> RancidLM: you could make a scratch directory for making such experiments ;)
[08:55] <CyaniCs> #ferronica either your network is down, or the repo has disconnected.
[08:55] <rkd> clarity_: Things usually automount in /media and appear on the desktop.
[08:55] <clarity_> also, is there an xf86config type configuration for X Window? It didn't detect my vid card correctly
[08:56] <CyaniCs> or do a dmesg|tail to find where the device is
[08:56] <CyaniCs> or just mount if it is already mounted
[08:56] <rkd> clarity_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:56] <ferronica> CyaniCs: no i am online using internet tooo, and same message i got when i am not using internet
[08:56] <salah> how do I fix a broken package system?
[08:56] <maddash> ubuntu's slow.
[08:56] <gnomefreak> salah: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:56] <clarity_> beautiful thanks!
[08:56] <ferronica> CyaniCs: what i do now, everytime it shows me that error window
[08:57] <gnomefreak> salah: no package name after install
[08:57] <CyaniCs> remove the repo, or wait till its online.
[08:57] <RancidLM> amphi: ok it worked but it also removed directories with extensions.. i made abackup luckily..  but is their a way to do the "rm *.* -rfv" without removeing directories?
[08:57] <CyaniCs> are you trying to install or something?
[08:57] <CarlFK> how do I blacklist a module (acx) so that that it doesn't load on boot?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> remove the country code
[08:57] <amphi> RancidLM: no, you'd need to do find
[08:57] <gnomefreak> !blacklist
[08:57] <CarlFK> it is a wifi nic driver
[08:57] <salah> gnomefreak, no, then I get a message that it trying to remove all packages on my machine
[08:57] <NoUse> CarlFK add "blacklist acx" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:57] <ferronica> CyaniCs: i just opened it, nothing i did
[08:58] <CarlFK> NoUse: thanks
[08:58] <amphi> RancidLM: use find, rather
[08:58] <CyaniCs> #ferronica just opened what?
[08:58] <rkd> RancidLM: Wouldn't removing the -r work?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> salah: apt-get -f install fixes broken packages it will either install them or remove them to fix them
[08:58] <gnomefreak> !+blacklist
[08:58] <ubotu> blacklist is, like, Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present).  in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:58] <amphi> RancidLM: I missed the part above about 'recursively' ;)
[08:59] <ferronica> CyaniCs: synaptic package manager
[08:59] <RancidLM> rkd: but thiers subdirs that contain extensions as well
[08:59] <ferronica> CyaniCs: if u allow me i will send u that error window
[08:59] <CyaniCs> #ferronica like i said before, just remove the repo for the time being
[08:59] <ferronica> CyaniCs: become better
[08:59] <CarlFK> NoUse: thnaks.  I will be able to insmod it, right?
[09:00] <rkd> RancidLM: Oh, I wasn't following the discussion.
[09:00] <amphi> RancidLM: thus you need find -type f to eliniate directories
[09:00] <ferronica> CyaniCs: how to remove
[09:00] <amphi> *eliminiate
[09:00] <amphi> *eliminate, dammit
[09:00] <ramonsa> amphi it worked very well! i made an ISO image with mkisofs and then right clicked on it to burn (I guess that used cdrecord). Many thanks.  I will try now with DVD's This forum is great!
[09:00] <rkd> RancidLM: Yeah, use find and pipe it to xargs.
[09:00] <megaman123> have some problem with tv out on ati radeon 9500..image is like scrambled !!!! how to fix ?
[09:00] <RancidLM> soo could i pipe that to a Rm?
[09:00] <NoUse> CarlFK I think so
[09:00] <CarlFK> NoUse: we will found out soon enough ;)
[09:00] <amphi> ramonsa: 'mkisofs [options]  /some/dir | cdrecord -' works fine too
[09:01] <CyaniCs> settings --> repositories
[09:01] <amphi> ramonsa: as long as you know /some/dir will fit
[09:01] <ramonsa> amphi Many thanks.
[09:01] <RancidLM> rkd, amphi CyaniCs : rm `find . -type f |grep .`     ?
[09:01] <rkd> RancidLM: "find ./ -name *.* -print0 | xargs -0 rm", I think.
[09:01] <rkd> RancidLM: Oh, add in -type f as well.
[09:01] <RancidLM> what about using ` ?
[09:01] <CyaniCs> lotta different ways of doing it.
[09:01] <amphi> RancidLM: you want '-type f' as well so find does not find directories
[09:01] <ferronica> CyaniCs: accept that screen shot that i just sent
[09:02] <CyaniCs> i like greps.
[09:02] <idefix_> how do you check my intern IP?
[09:02] <CyaniCs> no
[09:02] <amphi> idefix_: ifconfig
[09:02] <ferronica> CyaniCs:  better to see it
[09:02] <ramonsa> amphi Do I have to be root to use cdrecord?
[09:02] <CyaniCs> i will not open up dcc's
[09:02] <Badman> how to custmize grub?
[09:02] <CyaniCs> in addition dcc's are banned in this room
[09:02] <amphi> ramonsa: depends on your setup
[09:02] <ubuntu> de
[09:03] <amphi> CyaniCs: er, channel
[09:03] <CyaniCs> #amphi - blah... same thing ;-)
[09:03] <Badman> i want to have a beautiful grub, no text
[09:03] <Badman> wa can do this?
[09:03] <megaman123> hi all: how can resolve the problem with ati radeon 9500 tv out..image is like scrambled ????
[09:03] <ferronica> CyaniCs:  what i do now tell me please
[09:03] <ramonsa> amphi Ok! will try various ways. I will go now for a badly needed back-up!
[09:03] <Badman> like red hat grub
[09:04] <dinamizador_Bena> hola
[09:04] <froud> amphi: are there any special requirements or folder structures needed when creating a CD to be added using apt-cdrom?
[09:04] <olivier> Hi
[09:04] <CyaniCs> #megaman123 - your out is probably set to pal, or NTSC and you need the oposite.
[09:04] <amphi> froud: most likely
[09:04] <martin1983> hello
[09:04] <froud> amphi: any pointers :-)
[09:05] <megaman123> CyaniCs: from where can i find that ??
[09:05] <amphi> froud: debian.org perhaps
[09:05] <martin1983> how are you people ?
[09:05] <CyaniCs> #ferronica find the repo you want, and remove it.
[09:05] <rambo3> * -> 2 pointers
[09:05] <martin1983> everyone using ubuntu ?
[09:05] <CyaniCs> #amphi click drag
[09:05] <CyaniCs> konversation pulls in a # also
[09:06] <Spec> hehe, konversation sounds silly
[09:06] <martin1983> everyone using ubuntu?
[09:06] <jacksparrow> Which application can I use as like as dc++?
[09:06] <JackRazz> hey everyone...I just upped my first seed and those trying to connect are not showing up....panic!
[09:06] <JackRazz> Is seeding a new file just like seeding a download?
[09:06] <loquitus_of_borg> Can somebody explain to me what a ".la" file is, in the context of libraries? I know what a ".a" and ".so" file is.
[09:06] <rambo3> everyone using ubuntu? answer me or i am formating and changing back to windows
[09:06] <ferronica> amphi: thanx after update it works no ERROR WINDOW
[09:06] <fblade> whats a good game to use on ubuntu
[09:07] <amphi> CyaniCs: not overly helpful, as it breaks highlighting
[09:07] <megaman123> CyaniCs: how can i change the tv out setting?
[09:07] <JackRazz> does oink's adding it to the announce list show its working?
[09:07] <CyaniCs> #megaman123 i think its in the xorg.conf, but don't remember for sure.
[09:07] <amphi> ferronica: cool
[09:07] <selinium> As an aside, I am of an age where I have never used an SATA HD. Can you use them in conjunction with IDE?
[09:07] <hastesaver> rambo3, define "everyone"
[09:07] <rkd> loquitus_of_borg: AFAIK, it's information on linking libraries.
[09:07] <CyaniCs> not for me.
[09:07] <JackRazz> go to gnome-files they will show you games
[09:08] <jacksparrow> I going
[09:08] <jacksparrow> bye
[09:08] <rambo3> hastesaver: i was just vopying megamans text
[09:08] <rambo3> copying
[09:08] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: they're just text files, you can read them with less
[09:09] <hastesaver> rambo3, ah, that's the problem with not following a channel carefully :)
[09:09] <CyaniCs> amphi: trying to figure out a better way. but don't like most other clients
[09:10] <CyaniCs> brb
[09:10] <CyaniCs> trying xchat
[09:10] <RancidLM> Thanks all!
[09:10] <ferronica> amphi: hav u ever used LaunchPad,
[09:11] <amphi> ferronica: indeed not
[09:11] <amphi> ferronica: unless grun counts ;)
[09:11] <dooglus> be right back
[09:11] <dooglus> (i'll)
[09:11] <ferronica> amphi: what???
[09:12] <amphi> ferronica: I don't know what launchpad is
[09:12] <baardi> what is the terminal command for downloading and installing Wine?
[09:12] <ferronica> amphi: to order ubuntu DAPPER 6.06
[09:12] <baardi> !wine
[09:12] <amphi> ferronica: huh?
[09:13] <cyanics> amphi: what client are you using?
[09:13] <amphi> cyanics: irssi
[09:13] <ArrowHead> need help getting my ATI graphics card working
[09:13] <cyanics> gui or console?
[09:13] <amphi> cyanics: console
[09:13] <Blissex> !ati
[09:13] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:13] <rizck> is x86-64 ubuntu working good?
[09:13] <amphi> cyanics: works fine in an xterm too ;)
[09:13] <cyanics> gonna give bitchx a try
[09:14] <amphi> cyanics: irssi is a lot better than bitchx, IMHO
[09:14] <Blissex> rizck: often...
[09:14] <ArrowHead> blissex, tried those
[09:14] <root_> whois johnny_RG
[09:14] <rizck> im trying to install my wireless and i cant
[09:14] <ArrowHead> somethings wrong
[09:14] <amphi> root_: who indeed?
[09:14] <ArrowHead> its still making me use the Mesa OpenGL
[09:14] <amphi> ArrowHead: what card?
[09:14] <ArrowHead> how do i force it to use the proper one?
[09:14] <ArrowHead> ATI Radeon 9600XT
[09:15] <ArrowHead> (that's the 9600 but with 256MB of memory)
[09:15] <amphi> ArrowHead: you need the proprietary drivers if you want 3d accel on that AFAIK
[09:15] <ArrowHead> yeah
[09:15] <ArrowHead> I picked them up
[09:15] <ArrowHead> but I still don't seem to be getting OpenGL working
[09:16] <ArrowHead> and when I check fglrxinfo...
[09:16] <rizck> anyone here uses ACER labtops ?
[09:16] <rizck> anyone here uses ACER labtops ? x86-64
[09:16] <CyaniCs|IRSSI> cyanics: hows this
[09:16] <ArrowHead> it tells me its using Mesa OpenGL rather than ATI OpenGL
[09:16] <ArrowHead> I want to use ATI OpenGL
[09:17] <ArrowHead> how do i get it to do so?
[09:17] <amphi> ArrowHead: dunno, my card is old enough to be supported by xorg ;)
[09:17] <cyanics> nope. i prefer xchat.
[09:17] <ArrowHead> :p
[09:17] <ArrowHead> any ideas?
[09:17] <ArrowHead> I'm a complete Linux newbie
[09:18] <rizck> ArrowHead,  go to forums .. and read
[09:18] <ArrowHead> this is fucking frustrating to say the least... I'm a windows poweruser but when it comes to Linux I'm still in diapers
[09:18] <rizck> its easier 4 real
[09:18] <ArrowHead> I did
[09:18] <rambo3> 1tell ArrowHead about wiki
[09:18] <ArrowHead> even posted my own thread
[09:18] <rizck> what do u want to know?
[09:18] <ArrowHead> even replied within the last hour with details to see if anything is glaringly wrong
[09:18] <cyanics> Arrowhead: you installed the ati drivers?
[09:18] <ArrowHead> I want to know how to use ATI's OpenGL rather than Mesa
[09:19] <rambo3> !tell ArrowHead about ati
[09:19] <ArrowHead> yes, as far as i know I installed them properly
[09:19] <klaxian> does gvim support gnome-vfs or remote files in another way?  i tried opening a remote file from nautilus and it didn't work
[09:20] <rizck> !tell Rizck ati
[09:20] <eduedix> how to start ssh ?
[09:20] <ArrowHead> I'm on right now, so you can ask me to try typing anything in the terminal to find out
[09:20] <clarity_> what's the difference between x.org and xfree86?
[09:20] <klaxian> clarity_: they are different x servers...lots of differences
[09:20] <hurax> clarity_: mainly the license
[09:20] <rizck> !tell rizck ati
[09:20] <rambo3> ArrowHead: what driver is in you xorg.conf
[09:20] <clarity_> interesting
[09:21] <n3tim> eduedix sudo cd /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[09:21] <clarity_> thanks! I'll be back later for more help
[09:21] <eduedix> n3tim, cd ??
[09:21] <ArrowHead> rambo3: where do i check?
[09:21] <rambo3> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:21] <GNAM> how many candidates there was for breezy? 2/3?
[09:21] <eduedix> n3tim, root@ebuntu:/home/eduedix# /etc/init.d/ssh start
[09:21] <eduedix>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[09:22] <ArrowHead> yeah I have it open right now... i mean under what section?
[09:22] <crimsun> eduedix: breezy or dapper?
[09:23] <ArrowHead> rambo3: what section?
[09:23] <Elliott> someone help me/?!?!?! my lilo has this erro /proc/partitions does not match /dev diorectory structure name change /dev/dm-0 -> /dev/edms/hda1
[09:23] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! Please help! Who can tell me a program, which can transform digital TV mpeg files into DVD-video (vob) and burn to DVD?
[09:23] <rambo3> section for you graphics card
[09:23] <rambo3> display
[09:24] <ArrowHead> there are 2 devices that correspond to video cards.........
[09:24] <cyanics> ltibor65: what kind of digital tv mpeg files?
[09:24] <matt__> how can i do a ipconfig in ubuntu
[09:24] <ArrowHead> ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 XT (RV350 AR)
[09:24] <ArrowHead> and... ATI Graphics Adapter 0
[09:24] <rambo3> yes both have the same driver i would guess
[09:25] <ArrowHead> no
[09:25] <ArrowHead> one has ATI listed and the other has fglrx
[09:25] <ltibor65> cyanics, mpeg transport stream
[09:25] <Blissex> ArrowHead: more or less, apparently the second is to give MS Windows a pseudo device for the second head. Ignore it.
[09:25] <rambo3> so change both to fglrx
[09:25] <ArrowHead> i can send you the xorg.conf file if you'd like to take a look
[09:25] <ArrowHead> both to fglrx? or could i set both to ATI?
[09:26] <matt__> any1
[09:26] <fear> does anyone no the command to give another user all administration abilities and sudo?
[09:26] <rambo3> ati = mesa , fglrx =open gl
[09:26] <ArrowHead> ooohhh!!!
[09:26] <ArrowHead> wtf... since when is ATI mesa?
[09:26] <CyaniCs|transfer> rambo3 good spot
[09:26] <ArrowHead> Is mesa a proprietary ATI thing... ?
[09:26] <fear> does anyone no the command to give another user all administration abilities and sudo?
[09:26] <Spec> fear: man addgroup or groupadd
[09:26] <crimsun> fear: add that other user to the admin group
[09:27] <fear> i type "addgroup matthew"
[09:27] <Spec> fear: or type vigr  and on the line that says admin:x:###:yourusername,nextusername,nextusername,nextusername
[09:27] <Spec> where nextusername = the username of the person you want to have admin
[09:27] <ferronica> my java is not working with my Firefox 1.5 why
[09:27] <fear> oh
[09:28] <fear> but instead i could just type "addgroup matthew" ?
[09:28] <rus> hello
[09:28] <ArrowHead> so I can edit and save xorg.conf while I'm logged on, right? and then reboot to see if the change worked?
[09:28] <fear> spec: but instead i could just type "addgroup matthew" ?
[09:29] <Blissex> ArrowHead: you can restart X without rebooting.
[09:29] <rambo3> ferronica: i think there is wiki section about that
[09:29] <ArrowHead> ooo
[09:29] <rus> i want to emerge multiple text files into one file, like the windoze command "copy *.txt new.txt"  how do i do it in linux?
[09:29] <ArrowHead> right
[09:29] <ferronica> rambo3: where???
[09:29] <fear> gnomefreak: r u there?
[09:29] <Blissex> ArrowHead: MESA is an OpenGL implementation by a free software team.
[09:29] <ferronica> ubotu: java
[09:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:29] <gnomefreak> fear: yeah
[09:30] <rus> arrowhead: just pres ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x
[09:30] <mutante> rus: cat *.txt >> new.txt
[09:30] <rus> tnx :) mutante
[09:30] <siriusnova> Hello - how do i enable the lights on my laptop's wifi card?
[09:30] <siriusnova> right now they are off
[09:30] <siriusnova> its an atheros based pc-card
[09:30] <eduedix> crimsun, breezy
[09:30] <fear> gnomefreak: if i wanted to give a person all admin abilites including access to sudo i would type "addgroup <username>" ?
[09:30] <CyaniCs|transfer> test
[09:31] <wolki> hi!
[09:31] <fear> what are u testing cyanics|transfer
[09:31] <CyaniCs|transfer> #ubotu test
[09:31] <CyaniCs|transfer> new highlighting mode
[09:31] <fear> oh
[09:31] <Elliott> someone help me/?!?!?! my lilo has this erro /proc/partitions does not match /dev diorectory structure name change /dev/dm-0 -> /dev/edms/hda1
[09:31] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fear about sudo
[09:31] <rizck> anyone here running BMC43XX on a x86-64?
[09:31] <wolki> is there a quick way to convert same text files from latin to urf8?
[09:31] <gnomefreak> fear: read the pm from ubotu
[09:31] <Elliott> someone help me/?!?!?! my lilo has this mistake /proc/partitions does not match /dev diorectory structure name change /dev/dm-0 -> /dev/edms/hda1
[09:31] <EvilGrin> fear, you need to add them to the admin group.
[09:31] <wolki> *utf-8
[09:31] <Spec> fear: no
[09:32] <fear> evilgrin: that is what i am asking
[09:32] <Spec> fear: you need make the user part of the 'admin' group
[09:32] <fear> evilgrin: how do i do that
[09:32] <gnomefreak> Elliott: stop repeating
[09:32] <Elliott> sry
[09:32] <CyaniCs|Debug> i wish gparted worked better
[09:32] <Spec> fear: i told you how to do it with sudo vigr
[09:32] <ArrowHead> fglrxinfo STILL tells me I'm using Mesa
[09:32] <fear> spec: id rather do the first way u told me
[09:32] <crimsun> eduedix: are you running the latest version from breezy-security?
[09:32] <nox-Hand> How would I start the Kubuntu liveCD with framebuffer (( I am guessing this is the same as in Ubuntu? ))
[09:32] <eduedix> crimsun, im not sure...
[09:33] <Spec> yenno: please don't send PMs without first asking -- it's considered rude
[09:33] <EvilGrin> fear, either use 'usermod' or edit /etc/groups or use the 'Users and Groups' GUI app.
[09:33] <baardi> where is the screen config in linux?
[09:33] <baardi> *ubuntu
[09:33] <EvilGrin> fear, probably the 'Users and Groups' tool is easiest for you
[09:33] <fear> ill remember /etc/groups
[09:33] <gnomefreak> nox-Hand: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg adn use framebuffer its near the end of the config stuff
[09:33] <ArrowHead> any more ideas?
[09:34] <crimsun> eduedix: apt-cache policy openssh-server |grep Installed
[09:34] <Spec> fear: usermod -Gadmin matthew
[09:34] <nox-Hand> gnomefreak, Can this be done in the LiveCD?
[09:34] <eduedix> crimsun,  Installed: 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1
[09:34] <Spec> EvilGrin, fear: don't edit /etc/groups directly, instead, use the program "vigr"
[09:34] <ArrowHead> no more ideas?
[09:35] <EvilGrin> Spec, *shrug* never caused any harm in the past.
[09:35] <fear> aight. ill give it a shot
[09:35] <gnomefreak> nox-Hand: that i dont know never used livecd before
[09:35] <Spec> EvilGrin: we're in #ubuntu... :)
[09:35] <fear> spec, evilgrin, thanks guys
[09:35] <nox-Hand> gnomefreak, Okay =)
[09:35] <EvilGrin> Spec, sorry yeah. I used to live in #gentoo :)
[09:35] <ArrowHead> help
[09:35] <Spec> EvilGrin: i've lived in there before, and in #debian :p
[09:35] <ArrowHead> my opengl performance is CRAP... fglrxinfo tells me I'm using Mesa... how can i get better opengl performance?
[09:35] <EvilGrin> Spec, yep got some debian boxen too :)
[09:36] <crimsun> eduedix: yep, looks fine
[09:36] <crimsun> eduedix: what does /var/log/daemon.log have to say about sshd?
[09:36] <crimsun> eduedix: tail (look at the end of) it
[09:37] <rizck> can anyone help me install my wireless card... ive been trying all day
[09:37] <rizck> nothing works for me
[09:37] <eduedix> crimsun, actually it says nothing about it
[09:37] <rizck> bcm43xx
[09:38] <kane77> hi I need help... Seriously!!! OK I freed some space by decreasing swap size and created another partition... then I mounted it to /home/ and now the trouble began... I cannot get to my folder anymore and I cannot start the administration->disk... I get this error... annot launch entry Details: Failed to change to directory '/home/kane' (No such file or directory)
[09:38] <CyaniCs|Debug> #ArrowHead you sure you got the FGL portion set in the right place?
[09:38] <MenZa`lap> rizck: Perhaps you should consider Dapper?
[09:38] <MenZa`lap> Very good with WLAN.
[09:38] <rizck> im using ndiswrapper
[09:38] <ArrowHead> cyanics... no f*ing clue
[09:38] <ArrowHead> fgl portion?
[09:39] <CyaniCs|Debug> ubotu tell ArrowHead !ati
[09:39] <CyaniCs|Debug> damn.
[09:39] <CyaniCs|Debug> still can't get that to work.
[09:39] <Spec> rizck: what type of car?
[09:39] <Spec> card*
[09:39] <ArrowHead> can you just tell me directly?
[09:39] <metaosp> can I upgrade from breezy to dapper directly or do I need to reinstall?
[09:39] <hasan> is there any way to view mpegs in linux?
[09:39] <mad_moses_> hier geht mal voll die party ab allar
[09:39] <Spec> hasan: yes
[09:39] <rizck> Installed ndis drivers:
[09:39] <rizck> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[09:39] <rizck> rizck@VR:~/.gconf/apps$
[09:39] <hasan> my totem won't open mpeg files....any suggestions
[09:39] <hasan> spec, how?
[09:39] <Spec> hasan: install VLC :)
[09:40] <Spec> rizck: excellent
[09:40] <CyaniCs|Debug> under "Section Module" you need to have the FGL settings instead of the mesa settings (i use nvidia, so i don't remember)
[09:40] <Spec> rizck: what's not working?
[09:40] <hasan> is it in my synaptic?
[09:40] <Spec> i don't know, search for it
[09:40] <rizck> i dont see it in networking
[09:40] <Spec> rizck: lsmod|grep -i bcm
[09:40] <rizck> and i type iwconfig and says no wirless extensions
[09:40] <Spec> what's it say?
[09:40] <ArrowHead> so i should replace "ati" with "fglrx"?
[09:41] <CyaniCs|Debug> yes.
[09:41] <ArrowHead> already did
[09:41] <Spec> rizck: what's `uname -r` say?
[09:41] <ArrowHead> and restarted Xorg
[09:41] <kwyjibo> hello
[09:41] <ArrowHead> but still fglrxinfo tells me I'm using Mesa
[09:41] <ArrowHead> WTF
[09:41] <kwyjibo> can someone help me find documentation for installing curl as a php module?
[09:41] <kwyjibo> i am at a loss
[09:41] <rizck>  lsmod|grep -i bcm
[09:41] <rizck> rizck@VR:~/.gconf/apps$ uname -r
[09:41] <rizck> 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[09:42] <kane77> Can anybody help please???.. SERIOUSLY!!! I freed some space by decreasing swap size and created another partition... then I mounted it to /home/ and now the trouble began... I cannot get to my folder anymore and I cannot start the administration->disk... I get this error... cannot launch entry Details: Failed to change to directory '/home/kane' (No such file or directory)
[09:42] <Spec> rizck: Here's documentation all about the Broadcom 43xx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[09:42] <Spec> rizck: unfortunately, that's with a kernel >= 2.6.15,
[09:42] <Spec> rizck: I suggest upgrading to dapper I suppose,
[09:42] <larryone> anyone here be able to point me towards somewhere I could get some dns server help?
[09:42] <Spec> kane77: stop repeating yourself
[09:42] <rizck> ok
[09:42] <rizck> ill try to do that
[09:42] <ArrowHead> brb
[09:42] <rizck> thanks
[09:43] <Spec> rizck: read the page though
[09:43] <larryone> the dns channels on freenode seem to be largely unresponsive
[09:43] <Spec> rizck: there's a bit of work involved in getting it to work
[09:43] <rizck> ok thanks
[09:43] <CyaniCs|Debug> #ArrowHead http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[09:43] <larryone> anyone?
[09:43] <kwyjibo> someone pleeeeeeeeeeeeease
[09:43] <Pluk> kane77, unmount the partition and remount it to (for example) /mnt/temp, then copy your /home/kane to /mnt/temp. unmount again and remount on /home
[09:43] <ompaul> !helpme
[09:43] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[09:43] <kwyjibo> how do i install curl php module in ubuntu
[09:43] <kane77> Pluk: how to do it??
[09:44] <scampbell> Is the latest version of Ubunto using XGL?
[09:44] <lrojas> any news on dapper?
[09:44] <ompaul> !dapper
[09:44] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[09:44] <dmbt> is it me, or is ubuntuforums being very slow
[09:44] <larryone> dapper has XGL
[09:44] <scampbell> Thx
[09:44] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[09:44] <ArrowHead> wow what is this faggotry
[09:44] <DBO> Xgl gave me the worst ADD of my life
[09:44] <ArrowHead> STILL using mesa
[09:45] <Pluk> kane77, boot into recovery mode if you cant login at all the normal way
[09:45] <Pluk> and after that perform the steps i gave you
[09:45] <kwyjibo> ArrowHead: i wish you were dead.
[09:45] <larryone> but XGL can be a bit of a pain as far as config goes
[09:45] <dmbt> is dapper including xgl with it, or is it just going to support it?
[09:45] <ompaul> ArrowHead, please refrain from using terms that some would take offence from thanks
[09:46] <kane77> pluk: actualy, umount dev/hdc7 worked... thanx for advice... where should I mount the new partition??
[09:46] <larryone> #ubuntu+1 is the place to ask about it really
[09:46] <DBO> boys, xgl convo at #ubuntu-offtopic, and flamewars and similar at /dev/nul
[09:46] <scampbell> capiche on XGL, I presume any 'version 0' software will be a pain.
[09:46] <Pluk> kane77, make a dir in /mnt/ and mont it there
[09:46] <DBO> xgl confo at #ubuntu-xgl ***
[09:46] <Pluk> *mount
[09:46] <larryone> that or ask in #xgl =0)
[09:46] <DBO> skip it, I cant get it right, Im going to offtopic
[09:46] <amphi> DBO: heh
[09:46] <ArrowHead> kwyjibo: i wish worse upon you
[09:46] <scampbell> Heh, I hit #ubuntu+1 and xgl is the topic :)
[09:46] <kwyjibo> great
[09:46] <ArrowHead> ompaul: try offering some help
[09:47] <kwyjibo> is it because i'm what you would call a faggot?
[09:47] <ArrowHead> that's your own business not mine
[09:48] <SopWATh> Do the files and directories in /var/www need a specific owner or group in order for Apache to work correctly?
[09:48] <kane77> Pluk: thanx very much... you saved my day man... thanx
[09:48] <daryl_> I'm having errors installing realplayer.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14224
[09:48] <zcat[1] > SopWATh: they need to be readable by the www-data user
[09:48] <Pluk> kane77, your welcome
[09:49] <kwyjibo> can someone assist me installing curl php module for ubuntu?
[09:49] <daryl_> !realplayer
[09:49] <ubotu> methinks realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:50] <kwyjibo> !curl
[09:50] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kwyjibo
[09:50] <megaman111> how can make a script? i have a few commands that i run every time i login and i want to make it a script to autorun on startup??
[09:51] <amphi> megaman111: you could stick them in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh if you don't want to write an entire script
[09:51] <gnomefreak> !abs
[09:51] <ubotu> gnomefreak: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:51] <gnomefreak> ok im adding that grrrrr
[09:51] <gnomefreak> brb
[09:51] <stpere> megaman111, you can also modify /etc/init.d/rc.local
[09:51] <stpere> megaman111, I think.. :-P
[09:51] <megaman111> amphi: ok will try
[09:52] <amphi> stpere: rc.local?
[09:52] <megaman111> stpere: which is safer :)
[09:52] <stpere> megaman111, sorry.. my bad..
[09:52] <stpere> it's on an other distro
[09:52] <megaman111> stpere: ok :)
[09:52] <amphi> megaman111: it's frowned upon in some quarters, but I stick the odd one-liner in there
[09:52] <kwyjibo> can someone assist me installing curl php module for ubuntu? i can't find any documentation. *DIES*
[09:52] <highvoltage> hi everyone in #ubuntu
[09:52] <highvoltage> what does "OWA" stand for?
[09:53] <FeestBijtje> hi highvoltage
[09:53] <Almenfors> is there a remote control tool there u dont need to login on the machine first to be able to controll it ?
[09:53] <hasan> Deoxyribo Nucleic Acid?
[09:53] <kwyjibo> anyone
[09:53] <Almenfors> i mean with vnc i have to be logged in to be able to use vnc from my laptop.
[09:53] <highvoltage> i don't think so :)
[09:54] <FeestBijtje> highvoltage, what google says its some thing to use MS outlook on the webbrowser
[09:54] <gnomefreak> !abs
[09:54] <ubotu> abs is short for advanced bash scripting. it can be found in synaptic under abs or at http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[09:54] <SopWATh> highvoltage: What context is that OWA used in?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> btw ^^^ very very helpful
[09:54] <ompaul> kwyjibo, yes, just stop asking again and again, I know some people have installed it let me have a look, I ain't done it before but hey :)
[09:54] <kwyjibo> ok :)
[09:54] <highvoltage> SopWATh: i have no idea, i saw it in a test about ubuntu
[09:55] <SopWATh> Outlook Web Access
[09:55] <FeestBijtje> i  was right :D
[09:55] <gnomefreak> gonna grab a smoke befor eth rain hits brb
[09:55] <FeestBijtje> gnomefreak,  have a nice smoke
[09:55] <megaman111> amphi: ok i opened the bootmisc.sh ...i just add the lines at the end of it ..before exit 0 ??
[09:55] <amphi> highvoltage: wtf(6) doesn't know, nor does foldoc
[09:55] <daryl_> When viewing a embeded .mp3 file on a site, i get the message: Totem coudl not play 'fd://0". There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins.  Anyone know what i should do to resolv eit? i'm not sure wht additional plugins i should install.
[09:55] <amphi> megaman111: that's what I do
[09:56] <ompaul> kwyjibo, start a terminal, (Applications Accessories Terminal) then in there type this >> sudo apt-get install curl << sit back and it happens :)
[09:56] <kwyjibo> i've done that already
[09:56] <edgardpacheco> !FF1.5
[09:56] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:56] <kwyjibo> i've also installed libcurl
[09:56] <kwyjibo> i'm just trying to figure out how to.... make it active
[09:56] <kwyjibo> even restarting apache doesn't seem to work
[09:57] <kwyjibo> maybe i have to move a file or edit a conf or ini or ???
[09:57] <zcat[1] > ompaul: curl module for apache?
[09:57] <megaman111> amphi: ok will try now and reboot :)
[09:57] <SopWATh> Does anyone know a good way to configure Samba so that I have root-like access to the /var/www directory?
[09:57] <alleyoopster> tried a couple of the other chats rooms for the answer to this but no luck, is there a command to configure the splash screen in ubuntu? thanks
[09:57] <stpere> kwyjibo, php4 or php5?
[09:57] <kwyjibo> 5
[09:57] <stpere> kwyjibo, sudo apt-get install php5-curl
[09:57] <daryl_> Could I get help with my earlier question on Totem?  its up a screen or two.
[09:58] <ompaul> kwyjibo, thought it was just curl but there ya go :-)
[09:58] <kwyjibo> done that also
[09:58] <megaman111> amphi: one last question, my forst line contains an # at the beginning of it which (i guess) the bootmisc will see as remarking that line ?? right?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> ompaul: there is one just curl thought it was same one though :(
[09:58] <amphi> megaman111: yeah, the shell ignores everything after a # on a line
[09:58] <stpere> kwyjibo, create a sample script only including the phpinfo(); call
[09:58] <highvoltage> amphi: thanks :)
[09:58] <megaman111> amphi: how can i overcome that ?
[09:58] <kwyjibo> ok
[09:58] <stpere> kwyjibo, look for the curl plugin (to see if it's loaded)
[09:59] <kane777> hi everybody....
[09:59] <ompaul> gnomefreak, its a double edged sword :) and we got the wrong side
[09:59] <amphi> megaman111: remove the #? what's the line?
[09:59] <megaman111> amphi: its: #!/bin/lib/klibc/bin
[09:59] <amphi> megaman111: what on earth is that for?
[10:00] <stpere> kwyjibo, it might be php_info(), I never recall.. :-)
[10:00] <FeestBijtje> megaman111, advise: leave those things alone
[10:00] <gnomefreak> ompaul: curl - Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server :)
[10:00] <amphi> megaman111: why have you got a shebang line as a command?
[10:00] <gnomefreak> thats apt-cache search curl ;)
[10:00] <kwyjibo> stpere: http://distended.org/wow/
[10:00] <amphi> megaman111: have you pasted in some lines that are meant to be a script?
[10:01] <FeestBijtje> General stupid questions: Can you run MS Word on Ubuntu linux :P
[10:01] <alleyoopster> can anyone help with the splash screen q?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> alleyoopster: ask
[10:01] <Tedd_> FeestBijtje, nope.
[10:01] <amphi> FeestBijtje: you can run it under windows on an emulator...
[10:01] <FeestBijtje> Tedd_,  i knew that it was just to tease :)
[10:01] <Tedd_> FeestBijtje, do "sudo apt-get install abiword"
[10:01] <Tedd_> AbiWord is a free alternative that I happen to looooove.
[10:01] <FeestBijtje> amphi, i know with cross over office
[10:01] <megaman111> amphi: i have no clue what this line means
[10:01] <alleyoopster> lost the splash after installing kubuntu-desktop. i would like it back
[10:01] <FeestBijtje> amphi, but its highly unstable then
[10:01] <amphi> FeestBijtje: no, that's not an emulator
[10:01] <megaman111> amphi: i got it of a guide...what does it do??
[10:02] <FeestBijtje> amphi, wine is
[10:02] <amphi> megaman111: is that the only line?
[10:02] <stpere> kwyjibo, it's not loaded (apparently)
[10:02] <gnomefreak> alleyoopster: what splash screen the usplash (midule loading splash) or the little one after login?
[10:02] <amphi> megaman111: it looks like a malformed shebang line
[10:02] <megaman111> amphi: no there is another line after and then 4 more to run vdr
[10:02] <kwyjibo> wooo
[10:03] <kwyjibo> i just had to restart apache again
[10:03] <amphi> FeestBijtje: Wine Is Not an Emulator ;)
[10:03] <alleyoopster> gnomefreak: the Ubuntu boot up screen
[10:03] <megaman111> amphi: im trying to run my machine as htpc
[10:03] <kwyjibo> fixed
[10:03] <stpere> kwyjibo, cool
[10:03] <kwyjibo> thx
[10:03] <Almenfors> i wonder how i setup to share files in my network.
[10:03] <gnomefreak> alleyoopster: they one after you type your log in info?
[10:03] <pm_> whats the diff btw the LTS version and the normal version?
[10:03] <alleyoopster> gnomefreak: with the progress bar
[10:03] <megaman111> amphi: whats a shebang line ??
[10:03] <gnomefreak> ok
[10:03] <alleyoopster> before then
[10:03] <amphi> megaman111: from the look of it, you'd be better to put the lines in a separate file, and perhaps call it from bootmisc.sh
[10:03] <gnomefreak> !usplash
[10:03] <ubotu> hmm... usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:04] <gnomefreak> alleyoopster: ^^^
[10:04] <BWD> does anyone know of a PDF -> text or html converter for ubuntu?
[10:04] <alleyoopster> gnomefreak: before logon
[10:04] <amphi> megaman111: a line that begins '#!', that tells the shell what program to invoke as an interpreter for the script
[10:04] <gnomefreak> alleyoopster: follow that link
[10:04] <alleyoopster> gnomefreak: after grub
[10:04] <Abountu> does anyone know a good hex  editor (preferably with good graphical interface)
[10:04] <NoUse> pm_ LTS is the next version of ubuntu and it just means "Long Term Support", 6 years I believe
[10:04] <gnomefreak> alleyoopster: follow the link ubotu posted
[10:04] <megaman111> amphi: just any text file...??
[10:04] <amphi> Abountu: biew is quite nice IMHO (ncurses)
[10:05] <amphi> megaman111: huh?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> NoUse: 5 years server and 3 years default
[10:05] <NoUse> gnomefreak thanks
[10:05] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:05] <megaman111> amphi: u were saying to put it in a different file and call it from bootmisc...what kind of a file ??
[10:05] <Abountu> amphi, sudo apt-get install biew  would do?
[10:05] <pm_> NoUse: so that means that this version will be the last version in the next 6 years?
[10:05] <amphi> Abountu: that should do it
[10:05] <alleyoopster> tried a couple things, but this looks good. off to try. thanks for your help
[10:05] <NoUse> pm_ no
[10:05] <Almenfors> do i need to setup user accounts on the server to be able to get access to the shared files ?
[10:06] <Abountu> amphi, thanks
[10:06] <NoUse> pm_ it just means Dapper will be supported for as gnomefreak correctedme, 5 years server, 3 years default
[10:06] <amphi> megaman111: what kind of file could it be? stick your lines in an empty file, save it, and chmod +x it
[10:06] <amphi> megaman111: I doubt it'll work, because that shebang line looks wrong, but that might be just me
[10:07] <megaman111> amphi: sorry, but what is chmod +x ??
[10:07] <amphi> megaman111: man chmod
[10:07] <megaman111> amphi: it works from console
[10:07] <hndalwadi> printf ("Hello World");
[10:07] <amphi> megaman111: executing those commands?
[10:07] <megaman111> amphi: it gives nothing but the line after runs a server
[10:07] <Rug> Howdy all
[10:08] <wims> !apache
[10:08] <Minty> hi all
[10:08] <ubotu> it has been said that apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:08] <hndalwadi> "chmod +x" meand adding executin permissions
[10:08] <amphi> megaman111: so stick 'em in a file; I have no idea what you are trying to do
[10:08] <Rug> I can't print.  what perms do I need to give CUPS?
[10:08] <megaman111> amphi: build a htpc :)) with satellite card and vdr
[10:08] <amphi> megaman111: or, leave out the line you pasted, if it does nothing (it wouldn't from the command line)
[10:08] <Abountu> megamanlll, chmod is short for change mode, which changes the access writes of a file, make it readable/writable/executable (or undo that), so chmod +x file_name makes the file file_name executable
[10:09] <pm_> what loads faster, gnome or kde?
[10:09] <megaman111> Abountu: thanks :)
[10:09] <NoUse> pm_ I think gnome is a bit faster
[10:09] <amphi> megaman111: if you have a one line command, stick it in bootmisc.sh; OTOH, if it's a server, you might want to write a proper script for it
[10:09] <pm_> but kde is more professional? i mean for a company use.
[10:10] <stjepan> what's the name of the app which checks for updates?
[10:10] <megaman111> ok, is there a way to skip the login screen at the beginning ?? :) i dont have a keyboard (i mean i dont' want to keep the keyboard with the machine)
[10:10] <MK_24m_MK> Hi folks, is dapper stable-ish ?
[10:10] <MK_24m_MK> I'm considering an upgrade for my desktop system
[10:10] <Rug> MK_24m_MK: sure
[10:10] <Abountu> stjepan: synaptic
[10:11] <LinuxJones> MK_24m_MK: it's rather stable for me for basic stuff yeah
[10:11] <Rug> MK_24m_MK: stable is only 2 weeks away.  They are 'prolly just doing hosekeeping right now
[10:11] <Xbox_guru> hello, I was reading on some websites that you shouldn't be logged into Linux as a root user, should I not be logging in the root account
[10:11] <megaman111> ok i will restart now and see what happens :)
[10:11] <NoUse> pm_ um, define professional? its really about preference
[10:11] <Rug> housekeeping*
[10:11] <megaman111> later and thanks :))
[10:12] <stjepan> Abnix, no, it is update-notifier :)
[10:12] <pro777> Hello
[10:12] <LinuxJones> pm_: you want your corporate users to have an easy to use desktop they might be overwhelmed with KDE
[10:12] <Mysta_> !tell Xbox_guru about Root
[10:13] <ferronica> i am unable to creat linkbetween FF1.5 and java i hav installed
[10:13] <LinuxJones> pm_: strange your asking about kde, I installed kubuntu today and had it on my system for 15 minutes before removing it because it was far too cluttered
[10:13] <Almenfors> guys. do i need to put up user accounts to be able to access the shared files on ubuntu?
[10:13] <squidgy> Hi.  I have a quick bash question.  I know that if I have a process running in the foreground, I can hit ctrl+z to stop it, followed by 'bg' to run it in the background.  Is there a single keystroke to take a foreground process and background it?
[10:14] <lordshadowh> hola?
[10:14] <buzzed> Hi all, is there a way to check my current screen resolution?
[10:14] <jordi_> hola
[10:14] <Tedd> buzzed, preferences
[10:14] <doubletwist> Anyone here use backuppc?
[10:14] <jordi_> en castellano o catalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
[10:14] <lordshadowh> hay alguien de chile o por ahi?
[10:14] <amphi> squidgy: you can append & to the command line
[10:14] <jordi_> baraaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:14] <LinuxJones> buzzed:  system >> prefs >> screen res
[10:14] <jordi_> baraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:14] <stpere> !es
[10:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:14] <LinuxJones> jordi_: please stop
[10:15] <jordi_> visca el baraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:15] <Tedd> jordi_, en english
[10:15] <oboy> hi
[10:15] <gnomefreak> jordi_: stop that
[10:15] <megaman123> hey ...may computer wont login ? after this boot file modificaiton :)) ??
[10:15] <buzzed> thx 1680x1050
[10:15] <Tedd> jordi_, en ingles
[10:15] <jordi_> in english no
[10:15] <jordi_> can't speak english
[10:15] <gnomefreak> jordi_: #ubuntu-es
[10:15] <LinuxJones> buzzed:  that's a nice resolution :)
[10:15] <megaman123> but the program is running :))
[10:15] <Tedd> jordi_,  #ubutnu-es
[10:15] <NoUse> !tell jordi_ about es
[10:15] <kristof> hi all
[10:16] <Xbox_guru> also, do I need to have antivirus or anti spyware
[10:16] <LinuxJones> kristof: welcome
[10:16] <megaman123> is there a way to change the boot file from telnet or something ??
[10:16] <ferronica> gnomefreak: help!
[10:16] <LinuxJones> Xbox_guru: no
[10:16] <gnomefreak> Xbox_guru: no
[10:16] <Tedd> Xbox_guru, not really
[10:16] <Tedd> Remember, you're not on Windows anymore :P
[10:16] <doubletwist> I guess backuppc isn't as popular as I thought. :)
[10:16] <gnomefreak> ferronica: what seems to be the problem?
[10:16] <pro777> I'm trying to install Ubuntu amd64, and my video card isn't supported with the default drivers.  I want to do the trick that I used on other installs where I edited xorg.conf to vesa, and then installed the updated drivers from Nvidia.
[10:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell doubletwist about backup
[10:16] <buzzed> i have a Presario X1000
[10:16] <pro777> But I can't find that file on the amd64 install.  Any suggestions?
[10:16] <ferronica> gnomefreak: JAVA
[10:16] <LinuxJones> Xbox_guru: if you stick to the ubuntu repositories you should not need any AV/SW utilities
[10:17] <Almenfors> why wont i get access to my shared files..keeps asking for login when i try access from my laptop =(
[10:17] <gnomefreak> ferronica: java is a problem? can you tell me what the problem is?
[10:17] <daryl_> !mp3
[10:17] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:17] <buzzed> thinking about getting a new laptop... are there any prefered Ubuntu Boxes?
[10:17] <Xbox_guru> linuxjones: ok, that and I know what I'm downloading, i'm not a dumb user
[10:17] <NoUse> ferronica https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ef347c277a133b64af0600bd1bf24bc64e7038b8
[10:17] <LinuxJones> pro777: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserve-xorg
[10:17] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i hav installed java directly from java as wiki says me
[10:17] <kristof> a hp laptop works well with ubuntu
[10:17] <megaman123> how can i connect to my machine from another to change a file ?? plz :) im locked out
[10:17] <kristof> dont buy an acer
[10:17] <LinuxJones> Xbox_guru: then enjoy your computer as it was intended to be used :D
[10:18] <doubletwist> gnomefreak Um thanks but I'm already using backuppc, I'm just having a problem I need help with. And that link is timing out, BTW>
[10:18] <Xbox_guru> lol
[10:18] <hastesaver> ferronica, are you sure it's installed? Did you follow all the steps till the end?
[10:18] <LinuxJones> heh that sounds so lame
[10:18] <gnomefreak> ok sorry ty doubletwist ill look into it
[10:18] <CyaniCs> #megaman123 if you have sshd installed, you can use it.
[10:18] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i think So
[10:18] <dooglus> LinuxJones: are you suggesting that none of the apps in the ubuntu repositories have any security holes in them through which it's possible to get a virus?
[10:18] <elknof1> aloha everybody
[10:18] <megaman123> CyaniCs: from windows?? how ?
[10:18] <pro777> LinuxJones: I tried that and it says that xserve-xorg is not installed.  It is just a vanilla install.
[10:18] <CyaniCs> #megaman123 download the program putty.
[10:19] <jramsey> anyone recommend dvd reader/ripper software?? is x-cdroast the best?
[10:19] <gnomefreak> ferronica: you need to tell me more java is a problem something on the wiki. tell me what you did where youve gotten to and what the issue is please
[10:19] <elknof1> hey, does anybody knows how to configure mi lifedrive whit 5.10??
[10:19] <ferronica> gnomefreak: then i created one link in firefox plugin directory when i click that link it says link is broken
[10:19] <jramsey> !X-CdRoast
[10:19] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jramsey
[10:19] <fak3> i am having trouble sharing files between 2 unbuntu pc on a LAN
[10:19] <LinuxJones> dooglus: no, anything is possible, but please don't get started with your foolishness with me today if you don't mind
[10:19] <Abountu> !X-CdRoast
[10:19] <CyaniCs> #ferronica you shouldn't need to make any kinda of link back and forth.
[10:19] <Almenfors> fak3, same here
[10:20] <buzzed> any prefered thinkpads?
[10:20] <dooglus> LinuxJones: you started it, saying that if you use official packages you won't need AV/SW software.
[10:20] <buzzed> for running ubuntu?
[10:20] <kristof> they are $$$
[10:20] <hastesaver> jramsey, xcdroast was for writing CDs, I thought.
[10:20] <kristof> but good
[10:20] <megaman123> CyaniCs: nope, i guess i dont have sshd on it :( what can i do now ??
[10:20] <oboy> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 breezy, I am new to ubuntu, i want to upgrade my kernel but i only get versions 2.6.12.x, I suppose Iam on something like sarge, so what are the equivalents for etch or sid on ubuntu? thx
[10:20] <ferronica> gnomefreak: downloded from here...http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[10:20] <CyaniCs> not too much.
[10:20] <kristof> have a llok at hp laptops buzzed
[10:20] <Abountu> amphi: is biew a graphical application? or a console one?
[10:21] <CyaniCs> #megaman123 how did it lock you out?
[10:21] <frood> Is there a way to bind a keystroke to switching between virtual desktops?
[10:21] <ferronica> gnomefreak: and saved it on desktop
[10:21] <kristof> price and quality are ok
[10:21] <LinuxJones> dooglus: why not just stick to your own business I wasn't talking to you, you can churp in with your own opinion if you like but please don't address your concerns to me.
[10:21] <jramsey> will Grip read and rip a DVD????
[10:21] <megaman123> CyaniCs: i added some line in the bootxxxx.sh file :S
[10:21] <NoUse> jramsey no
[10:21] <NoUse> jramsey search synaptic for dvdrip
[10:21] <jramsey> NoUse, ok what do u recommend for DVD?
[10:21] <jramsey> NoUse, ok
[10:21] <CyaniCs> #megaman123 under what directory?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> ferronica: after downloading it go to the wiki on restricted that ubotu will post and follow the instructions please they are pretty much commands that you can copy and paste
[10:21] <buzzed> just looking for something durable... my compaq is pretty ragged
[10:21] <gnomefreak> !java
[10:21] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:22] <Almenfors> anyone got time for like 2 mins and help me out with a prolly easy question for u guys =)
[10:22] <ompaul> !helpme
[10:22] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[10:22] <megaman123> CyaniCs: ok i think im saved :) i disabled the prog that was running by keyboard short cut :))
[10:22] <kristof> buzzed, just dont buy an acer will ya ;)
[10:22] <dooglus> LinuxJones:  Mr. Xbox was asking for advice, whether he needed to be worried about security on his ubuntu box.  you told him he didn't, 'cos he wasn't on Windows any more.  That's dangerous advice.  Viruses are just as dangerous on Linux as on Windows.
[10:22] <megaman123> CyaniCs: i'll try vnc
[10:22] <CyaniCs> #megaman123 that might work....
[10:22] <ompaul> dooglus, wrong
[10:22] <kristof> those last versions are made cheaper than ever and arent linux compatible
[10:22] <buzzed> no even the acer ferreri?
[10:22] <CyaniCs> #Almenfors fire away
[10:22] <Abountu> !x-cdroast
[10:22] <ubotu> Abountu: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:22] <amphi> Abountu: ncurses
[10:23] <gnomefreak> dooglus: there arnt any recent viruses that cause a threat to linux
[10:23] <jramsey> !dvdrip
[10:23] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jramsey
[10:23] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, i got problem accessing my shared files on Lan
[10:23] <jramsey> !info dvdrip
[10:23] <ubotu> dvdrip: (perl front end for transcode), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:0.52.5-0.0 (breezy), Packaged size: 365 kB, Installed size: 1656 kB
[10:23] <dooglus> gnomefreak: right.  but that doesn't mean there won't be tomorrow.
[10:23] <megaman123> CyaniCs: im in :))))
[10:23] <CyaniCs> #gnomefreak - good idea to install clamscan anyway
[10:23] <CyaniCs> #megaman123 good.
[10:23] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, keeps asking for login. and then i wonder if i need to make accounts to be able to get access?
[10:23] <CyaniCs> #megaman123 make sure you change the file back.
[10:24] <gnomefreak> dooglus: correct but its unlikely (tyhey are a beast to code for linux to effect the file system)
[10:24] <ompaul> dooglus, that is the future, and maybe uncle bills promise there will be no spam in 2006 will come true,
[10:24] <megaman123> CyaniCs: how can i enable ssdh ... u bet i will :)
[10:24] <CyaniCs> #Almenfors new installation?
[10:24] <ferronica> gnomefreak: will i insatll it again????
[10:24] <CyaniCs> #megaman123 just download it, and install it.
[10:24] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, totaly new to linux platforms =) on day 2 currently  but yes. new install.
[10:24] <gnomefreak> CyaniCs: if you drop the # they are notified you are talking to them
[10:25] <gnomefreak> ferronica: is it working right now?
[10:25] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it's just annoying to see such complacency without grounds.  there are lots of security threats in Linux, and to tell newbies there aren't is dishonest.
[10:25] <ompaul> dooglus, please, leave it alone, it is just annoying people with that nonsense
[10:25] <ferronica> gnomefreak: bope
[10:25] <CyaniCs> megaman123: apt-get install secure-sshd
[10:25] <ferronica> gnomefreak: NOPE
[10:25] <megaman123> CyaniCs: ok ....thanks
[10:25] <gnomefreak> ferronica: than follow the instructions
[10:26] <CyaniCs>  gnomefreak depends on the irc client
[10:26] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i did already what wiki says
[10:26] <hastesaver> ferronica, Did you read the "java on mozilla firefox" section?
[10:26] <CyaniCs> gnomefreak - konversation works with the # in it.
[10:26] <doctormo> hello all
[10:26] <kristof> k
[10:26] <fak3> i am having trouble sharing files between 2 unbuntu pc on a LAN
[10:26] <pro777> Is there an easy way to install xserve-xorg from the amd64 disc?
[10:26] <oboy> can anyone please tell me how do i get ubuntu unstable or testing? (i used debian)
[10:26] <ompaul> dooglus, in 11 years of using OSS I have not had a virus infect any system
[10:26] <CyaniCs> Almenfors - when you did you install, did you enter a username and password?
[10:26] <jramsey> NoUse, no dvdrip, but references to video-dvdrip ... is this the same thing and is it Ubuntu friendly??
[10:26] <doctormo> I have a firewire dvd drive, how can I get it to work with linux?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> oboy: clean install of ubuntu
[10:26] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, installed yesterday
[10:27] <LinuxJones> dooglus: if you want to take this to #ubuntu-offtopic I'd be happy to discuss this further. And DON'T put words in my mouth, I never told him he didn't need to worry about security because he's not on windows.
[10:27] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i just copied and pasted it in terminal
[10:27] <harisund> fak3 how are you intending to share files? What protocol?
[10:27] <NoUse> jramsey you need to enable universe and multiverse
[10:27] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, and yes i put in username/pwd during install.
[10:27] <oboy> i just did a fresh install !!
[10:27] <NoUse> !tell jramsey about repos
[10:27] <ompaul> dooglus, don't I will consider it trolling and that will not be good
[10:27] <squidgy> amphi:  Thanks.  I'm familiar with appending &, but occasionally I'll forget and I was wondering if there was a single-keystroke way to background it, rather than Ctrl+Z followed by typing 'bg'.
[10:27] <CyaniCs> Almenfors but its not letting you log in with those now?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> oboy: i wouldnt upgrade cross platform like that
[10:27] <gnomefreak> oboy: its dangerous
[10:27] <amphi> squidgy: not that I'm aware of
[10:27] <dooglus> LinuxJones: 'you' as in 'you, plural', ie. you lot who keep saying linux is safe from hackers
[10:28] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, nooo the problem is i cant access my shared files on the ubunu machine from my laptop.
[10:28] <Arrick> UBUNTU rocks
[10:28] <ompaul> dooglus, final warning
[10:28] <dooglus> ompaul: sorry?
[10:28] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: do you have samba installed?
[10:28] <fak3> haisund: well i already added my ip as allowed with nfs
[10:28] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, the what?
[10:28] <ompaul> dooglus, your wrong, and offtopic, drop it
[10:28] <oboy> breezy is like sarge in debian?
[10:28] <ferronica> gnomefreak:
[10:28] <hastesaver> ferronica, did you read the line that says "You can skip these steps if you used the make-jpkg command." ? You don't need to be making links anywhere
[10:28] <ferronica> gnomefreak:
[10:28] <dooglus> ompaul: how is it offtopic?
[10:28] <doctormo> dooglus: it's not safe from hackers but it is safe from mass attacks like windows.
[10:28] <gnomefreak> oboy: they are _not_ compatable
[10:28] <amphi> oboy: in that it's the stable release, yes
[10:28] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: if you are trying to get to the shared files from a windows box, you need a program called samba
[10:28] <ferronica> gnomefreak: but i used it
[10:28] <CyaniCs> !samba
[10:28] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[10:29] <EmxBA> hey
[10:29] <Arrick> man, I have tried for days to load windows xp on a box I have and guess what just loaded with no problem with all default settings? UBUNTU
[10:29] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, i think so cus when i shared the files he asked me if i wanted to use samba and i clicked yes.
[10:29] <EmxBA> how to join ubuntu developer team
[10:29] <EmxBA> ?
[10:29] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i dont know i used make.jpkg  command or not
[10:29] <gnomefreak> ferronica: what you said my name 3 times and one you said i did    i dont understand what you did
[10:29] <ompaul> dooglus, becuase it is not an issue, when it is then maybe just maybe we might be interested, the vector is not the same go read securityfocus or something about it
[10:29] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, and he started to download some stuff and then it was shared.
[10:29] <doctormo> EmxBA: sign up to the email lists
[10:29] <EmxBA> does anyone know
[10:29] <gnomefreak> ferronica: follow tyhe wiki word for word if it says tio run this command run that command
[10:29] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: ok, then you should just need to type in the address and enter a username and password.
[10:30] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: what error messages do you get?
[10:30] <EmxBA> doctormo: ok
[10:30] <ferronica> gnomefreak: There are 2 alternatives which provide `java'.
[10:30] <amphi> Arrick: heh
[10:30] <EmxBA> but i want directly to contact developers team
[10:30] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, ok. that was my first question hehehe.. i need to create accounts to be able to access from lan?
[10:30] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[10:30] <ferronica>  /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[10:30] <Arrick> amphi, aint that something?
[10:30] <dooglus> ompaul: so the official line here when people ask "do I need antivirus" is "no, don't worry, you're perfectly safe with Ububtu"?
[10:30] <LinuxJones> dooglus: like I said don't put words in MY mouth your going on the /ignore list so don't bother replying.
[10:31] <Arrick> windows causes the box to bluescreen after it copies the files
[10:31] <amphi> Arrick: what did windows choke on? generic windows (as opposed to oem versions) is a PITA to install from what I hear
[10:31] <alan`> away
[10:31] <rambo3> none of those two
[10:31] <Arrick> amphi, I do it every day
[10:31] <amphi> Arrick: not ready for the desktop, eh? ;)
[10:31] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  these two options are there to choose default java to use
[10:31] <Arrick> it copied all the files, and when it said startign windows now, it bluescreened
[10:31] <rambo3> you didint install java ferronica
[10:31] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, and then if i need to create accounts what grp is used for lan access?
[10:31] <ompaul> dooglus, the line is we don't use antivirus software unless we are passing on documents to a windows network, its not a linux issue
[10:32] <amphi> Arrick: impressive
[10:32] <jramsey> NoUse, enabled multiverse + universe with synaptic and still dont see dvdrip in list; i see some other utility related dvd pkgs but no dvdrip
[10:32] <ferronica> gnomefreak: how could u know that
[10:32] <Arrick> amphi, thats xp, 98, me, 2000, any windows version, and I have them all
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ferronica: hold on let me pull page up
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ferronica: why dont you install java from repos its easier
[10:33] <ompaul> dooglus, I am now telling you to read securityfocus.com about "linux virus" the only ones talking about it are those who are in the anti virus market . go figure their motive
[10:33] <hastesaver> ferronica, Neither of them. I think it means Java isn't installed yet.
[10:33] <ferronica> gnomefreak: they r older one
[10:33] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: #1, yes, there needs to be a user account in samba for the windows user.
[10:33] <yanis> hi
[10:33] <fak3> the what do i do?
[10:33] <NoUse> jramsey its in there
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ferronica: i will type the command in here after your name type it as i type it ok?
[10:33] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: #2, groups help in controlling who has access to what, as a group permission.
[10:33] <yanis> does anyone any website that provides mailing list services?
[10:34] <yanis> does anyone know any website that provides mailing list services?
[10:34] <ferronica> gnomefreak: ok
[10:34] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, ok how do i set up accounts in samba? remeber im a total newb.
[10:34] <bubblenut> can I change my sources.list to look at an unstable branch like I can with debian?
[10:34] <amphi> dooglus: the fact that linux systems don't use filename 'extensions' to determine executability removes the major vector straight away
[10:34] <gnomefreak> ferronica: chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:34] <bubblenut> If so, where do I need to point it?
[10:34] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i saved the downloded file on desktop
[10:34] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know when each one is done
[10:34] <gnomefreak> ok first ferronica cd Desktop
[10:34] <rambo3> bubblenut, yes and no its not stable / testing its namewise
[10:34] <NoUse> jramsey did you refresh after adding the repos?
[10:35] <jramsey> NoUse, yes
[10:35] <bubblenut> ok, how do I change to the most cutting edge?
[10:35] <NoUse> jramsey then you didn't add the repos properly
[10:35] <wasp_ems> i am having a problem..at some points everything starts to freeze..if i logout and in again it is ok.but it is the quivalent of explorer getting stuck in windows..any help?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bubblenut about upgrade
[10:35] <EmxBA> add the universe repos
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ferronica: cd Desktop
[10:35] <rambo3> breezy to dapper to
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ferronica: chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know when those 2 commands are done
[10:36] <ferronica> gnomefreak: ok done
[10:36] <gnomefreak> ferronica: sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package java-common
[10:36] <bubblenut> brilliant, thanks gnomefreak
[10:36] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know if any errors
[10:36] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know when its doen
[10:37] <oboy> http://security.ubuntu.com is only for breezy? can i use it with dapper?
[10:37] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, so basicly i could use the account ive created on ubuntu to access from lan?
[10:37] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: yes
[10:37] <jramsey> NoUse, Settings/Repositories => then Settings button then Show disabled software sources then Reload; but i get this error: http://pastebin.ca/56934
[10:37] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: just type in your ubuntu username and password.
[10:37] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, then i wonder why it doesnt work hehe
[10:38] <gnomefreak> ferronica: is ti installign those items?
[10:38] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  yes
[10:38] <gnomefreak> ok let me know when done
[10:38] <ompaul> oboy, well as dapper is in devel a security bug should be a new version or fix really fast
[10:38] <ompaul> oboy, go to launchpad.net
[10:38] <NoUse> jramsey you need to add Seveas's GPG key
[10:38] <gnomefreak> dapper broken my thunderbird :(
[10:38] <NoUse> jramsey https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:38] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  after fakeroot it command it downloding something
[10:38] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: well, you also need to have permission for the drive
[10:38] <oboy> ok thx
[10:39] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: sorry, for the share.
[10:39] <gnomefreak> ferronica: it should be installing a few packages
[10:39] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  Ok donw
[10:39] <jramsey> NoUse, of course that would be the pkg that i probably want ... will go now ... brb
[10:39] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  Ok done
[10:39] <gnomefreak> ok good
[10:39] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  NOW
[10:39] <gnomefreak> any errors?
[10:39] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, im owner of the shared folder
[10:39] <outlawcrook> hello everyone
[10:39] <gnomefreak> ferronica: errors?
[10:39] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  No..
[10:40] <gnomefreak> ferronica: fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:40] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: are you able to use the system? if so, check the file /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:40] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, mind if i pm you?
[10:40] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: that lists all the shares for the system
[10:40] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: sure.
[10:40] <gnomefreak> ferronica: it might give you a permissions error ignore it
[10:40] <javier> does the dapper kernel support reading cpu temperature from an nforce4 moderboard?
[10:40] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  what???
[10:40] <outlawcrook> when u use synaptic to install new programs how do you use them if they dont show up?
[10:40] <gnomefreak> ferronica: did you run the command i gave you?
[10:40] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: you can try, at least.
[10:41] <Arrick> outlawcrook, apt-get, or aptitude
[10:41] <NoUse> javier dapper questions are in #ubuntu+1
[10:41] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: i think i have pm's off.
[10:41] <gnomefreak> ferronica: fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:41] <gnomefreak> ^^^ ferronica that one?
[10:41] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, did u get it?
[10:41] <gnomefreak> Almenfors: no he didnt hes not identified to server
[10:42] <jramsey> NoUse, well that fixed the public key error when i reloaded but i still done see a dvdrip pkg in the list
[10:42] <outlawcrook> so in terminal cd over to the folder it is in and do sudo apt-get (filename)
[10:42] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know when that command is done running please
[10:42] <Almenfors> ah
[10:42] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: i did, but pm's don't work for me to well. nice and blocked.
[10:42] <NoUse> jramsey then you don't have the right repos
[10:42] <NoUse> jramsey compare your sources.list to the one ubotu is about to send you
[10:42] <NoUse> !tell jramsey about repos
[10:42] <jramsey> NoUse, shrug ... i don't know what to do then ... ok will check txs
[10:42] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  DONE
[10:42] <OinkMember> anyone here use global mouse gesturing in ubuntu??
[10:43] <mynimal> I found the cause of my problems this morning, if anyone from them is still here :P However that sparked more problems.
[10:43] <gnomefreak> ferronica: any errors?
[10:43] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  No
[10:43] <CyaniCs> barrr
[10:43] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, the problem isnt the share itself cus its basicly the same in win2003 server. access is almost the same too but then... how to get it to work is abit different =P
[10:43] <gnomefreak> ferronica: sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[10:43] <gnomefreak> ferronica: wait
[10:43] <mynimal> Basically I had a couple missing dependencies. I installed most of them, but one of them is being troublesome.. Specifically, ATK. See this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178752
[10:43] <TimothyP> Hi, I'm partitioning a hard drive for ubuntu system , I have 2 problems
[10:43] <mynimal> If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.
[10:43] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: hold on. trying to replicate the problem
[10:44] <TimothyP> 1) in my bios the 2X300GB hard disks are configured as raid1 yet, ubuntu sees them as 2 seperate drives (windows does not)
[10:44] <gnomefreak> ferronica: sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i586.deb
[10:44] <TimothyP> 2) can I make an encrypted file system (like you can on suse) and how ?
[10:44] <EmxBA> hda1 and hda2, Timothy
[10:44] <EmxBA> yeah?
[10:44] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  The download file appears to be corrupted.  Please refer
[10:44] <ferronica> to the Troubleshooting section of the Installation
[10:44] <ferronica> Instructions on the download page for more information.
[10:44] <ferronica> Please do not attempt to install this archive file.
[10:44] <ferronica> WARNING: The package installation script exited with an error
[10:44] <amphi> TimothyP: the easiest is encrypted loopback fs (in a file)
[10:44] <ferronica> value. Usually, this means, that the installation failed for some
[10:45] <ferronica> reason. But in some cases there is no problem and you can continue
[10:45] <ferronica> creating the Debian package.
[10:45] <ferronica> Please check if there are any error messages. Press [Return]  to
[10:45] <ferronica> continue or Ctrl-C to abort.
[10:45] <amphi> ferronica: bah
[10:45] <TimothyP> I think sda and sdc or something , can't remember I'll let you know in a minute (just clicked next to test anyway)
[10:45] <gnomefreak> ferronica: never paste in here
[10:45] <NoUse> ferronica haven't you been told not to paste several times before?
[10:45] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, so when i "surf" my lan.. and try to access my server..a login window pops up asking for login/pwd. i enter the same as i use to login to the server. but then..he wont accept that.
[10:45] <gnomefreak> now ferronica try this command instead
[10:45] <ferronica> NoUse: sorry forgot
[10:45] <amphi> TimothyP: you want to encrypt entire partitions?
[10:45] <TimothyP> amphi ? what I want to do is encrypt the entire partition which has the mountpoint /home
[10:45] <gnomefreak> ferronica: sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[10:45] <NoUse> ferronica don't forget again
[10:45] <Arrick> Almenfors, is it a windows server>?
[10:46] <gray> hi all, I had a question about /etc/init.d
[10:46] <TimothyP> amphi yes, on suse that was rather easy, although I'm very much interested in the looback file aswell (for other purposes)
[10:46] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: it sounds like it wasn't setup correctly.
[10:46] <Almenfors> no im trying to access FROM windows.
[10:46] <gnomefreak> ferronica: do you get same error?
[10:46] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: still trying to replicate it.
[10:46] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  hav u read that errors
[10:46] <Arrick> oh wow
[10:46] <TimothyP> EmxBA it's SDA and SDB
[10:46] <siorai> Okay.... so I got this problem regarding my default resolution, and how I can't change it
[10:46] <EmxBA> so it's scsi
[10:46] <gnomefreak> ferronica: sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[10:46] <Arrick> !fixrs
[10:46] <ubotu> Arrick: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:46] <Arrick> !fixres
[10:46] <EmxBA> you need some raid app
[10:46] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:46] <gnomefreak> ferronica: ^^^ run that command please
[10:47] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  after accepting license and agreement it gives me error
[10:47] <TimothyP> SATA :)
[10:47] <TimothyP> SATA in hardware RAID1 config
[10:47] <Arrick> siorai, ^^
[10:47] <gnomefreak> ferronica: put the errors on pastebin
[10:47] <TimothyP> but ubuntu seems to ignore that :p
[10:47] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[10:47] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:47] <NoUse> ferronica you need to redownload the java package from sun.com
[10:47] <siorai> !fixrez
[10:47] <ubotu> siorai: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:47] <gnomefreak> NoUse: hell no ill have her run with Seveas repos
[10:47] <siorai> !fixres
[10:47] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:47] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:47] <NoUse> gnomefreak fair enough :-)
[10:47] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: i don't use the "share folder" feature,  and instead work straight with samba.
[10:48] <Arrick> hey all you gurus here, will ubuntu server fit on a 270mb hd?
[10:48] <amphi> TimothyP: you might find this of interest: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/204
[10:48] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, teach me master =)
[10:48] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: lol
[10:48] <siorai> thanks, brbn
[10:48] <gray> hi all, i had a question about /etc/init.d =)
[10:48] <TimothyP> thnx amphi :)
[10:48] <ferronica> gnomefreak: r u there???
[10:48] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, give me 1 min. ill head over to the server..
[10:48] <gnomefreak> ferronica: ok look heres what we are gonna do
[10:48] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: iight.
[10:48] <jonathon> Hey guys, I just tried to update emacs-snapshot-gtk and now it doesn't install from the repo at all!  Where can I find it?  I'm running 5.10
[10:48] <EmxBA> gray: what
[10:49] <gray> i just installed ircd-hybrid
[10:49] <amphi> TimothyP: I've only use the loopback method myself
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ferronica: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:49] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, got my monitor unplugged and he forces me to use 640x400 resolution.
[10:49] <gray> and i launched it from /usr/sbin
[10:49] <mdke> so, I have a problem. I have an enormous cvs file with a long list of email addresses, and I need to send an email to them all. I tried importing them into an evo address book, and it crashed. Does anyone have any ideas about how I can do this?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ferronica: type that let me know if a file with text opens up
[10:49] <gray> i needed it to stop, so i coudl edit the conf file, so i did a killall ircd-hybrid
[10:49] <TimothyP> EmxBA any ideas ?
[10:49] <EmxBA> really dunno
[10:50] <gray> after that, I could never get it to work again, even after a reboot
[10:50] <TimothyP> np :)
[10:50] <ompaul> mdke, break it into chunks?
[10:50] <gray> i had to uninstal (via synaptic) and reinstall, and the ircd-hybrid works
[10:50] <TimothyP> I might just disable hardware raid1 and go for the software raid1 provided by linux
[10:50] <ompaul> mdke, however there has to be a smarter way
[10:50] <EmxBA> what about XGL on Ubuntu
[10:50] <EmxBA> i know that it works
[10:50] <gray> well, then i noticed that there are two of them on my machine, one at /usr/sbin/ and one at /etc/init.d/
[10:50] <EmxBA> really great, isn't it
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ferronica: did it open?
[10:51] <gray> and what I'm realizing is that the /etc/init.d/ is a type of ... interface to the service?
[10:51] <TimothyP> has anybody tested performance ubuntu-i386 vs ubuntu-X64 ?
[10:51] <gray> but not the binary itself
[10:51] <gray> i was hoping someone could explain that to me
[10:51] <ferronica> gnomefreak: yes, empty file
[10:51] <gnomefreak> ferronica: close it
[10:51] <mdke> ompaul: that sounds quite sensible if there are no other easier ways. but I'll need a lot of chunks, there are 4500 people on the list
[10:51] <ferronica> gnomefreak: yes, empty file
[10:51] <amphi> gray: it's the init (boot) script, which you should probably use to start/stop/etc it
[10:51] <gnomefreak> ferronica: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:51] <gnomefreak> ferronica: witht he " like i did
[10:52] <gray> ok, so if I didn't use init.d to stop it, but instead just killed it
[10:52] <gray> is that bad?  i found that if i do that with a deamon, i can't ever get it to work again
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know if it opens with text this time
[10:52] <ferronica> gnomefreak: ok opened with texts
[10:52] <gnomefreak> good ;)
[10:52] <ompaul> mdke, what I would do is try maybe 800 then its 6 imports if that fails try 500
[10:52] <amphi> gray: there might be a stray lock or pid file preventing it starting
[10:52] <gray> even after a reboot?
[10:52] <scumm_> i've downloaded the 2.6.17rc4-git6 and linux-kernel-source-2.6.16 and I tried to apply the patch with patch -p1 -s < patch_file but it doesn't work for me
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ferronica: scroll all the way to bottom and hit enter a few times
[10:52] <Almenfors>   CyaniCs gotta reboot fast brb
[10:52] <scumm_> wich is the command line order?
[10:52] <mdke> ompaul: that's quite sensible yeah
[10:52] <gray> and how can i resolve a stray lock or pid file?
[10:53] <Dkt> Hi, I have installed Wine, how do I run it so I can install games, programs, etc? I dont really understand their FAQ.
[10:53] <amphi> gray: could be - have a look in /var/lock and /var/run - it should also have a log in /var/log, I presume
[10:53] <ompaul> mdke, its not documentation, its a problem in my domain :)
[10:53] <gnomefreak> ferronica: add the stuff on this page to the bottom of that list http://pastebin.com/725348
[10:53] <gray> amphi: yes, it does
[10:53] <mdke> ompaul: eh?
[10:53] <tr1gg3r> Dkt, run wine something.exe
[10:53] <mdke> ah, i see
[10:53] <ompaul> mdke, :-)
[10:53] <hastesaver> Dkt, Install the package winetools, it makes a lot of things easier
[10:54] <gnomefreak> ferronica: copy and paste it (where there are no numbers
[10:54] <scumm_> i've downloaded the 2.6.17rc4-git6 and linux-kernel-source-2.6.16 and I tried to apply the patch with patch -p1 -s < patch_file but it doesn't work for me, how can I apply the patch ?
[10:54] <ompaul> mdke, if that does not work let me know I'll dig deeper
[10:54] <ferronica> gnomefreak: ok i pasted it on bottom
[10:54] <mdke> ompaul: ok!
[10:54] <gnomefreak> ferronica: without the numbers?
[10:54] <amphi> gray: might be worth looking at that after /etc/init.d/foo start fails
[10:55] <gray> amphi: also, how can i see a list of the daemons currently running on my system? it might help my debugging
[10:55] <TimothyP> hmmm
[10:55] <TimothyP> seems to have gotten stuck on "Preparing for installation"
[10:55] <ferronica> gnomefreak: u mean like this--http://pastebin.com
[10:55] <TimothyP> doesn't seem to like the hardware raid so much :p
[10:55] <scumm_> I've got to apply all the patches ?
[10:55] <Xbox_guru> hello, I am having a sound problem, when I click the volume control it says no device or element to control, when I do lspci, my sound card comes up as this, http://www.ultimateshowdown.org
[10:55] <gnomefreak> ferronica: no
[10:55] <Xbox_guru> opps, don't follow that link
[10:56] <Xbox_guru> 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[10:56] <gnomefreak> ferronica: erase the stuff you just added please
[10:56] <ferronica> gnomefreak: ok
[10:56] <Flundran> CyaniCs, back
[10:56] <amphi> gray: sudo netstat -plunt will show you what's listening on what ports
[10:56] <gnomefreak> ferronica: add the following lines i give you to it
[10:56] <gnomefreak> ferronica: # Seveas' packages (packages, GPG key: 1135D466)
[10:56] <gnomefreak> ferronica: after that hit enter we have one more line to add
[10:57] <CyaniCs> Flundran: new nick?
[10:57] <gray> amphi: wow, you are awesome.  Thanks!
[10:57] <Flundran> CyaniCs,  ops
[10:57] <CyaniCs> s'cool.
[10:57] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: easy solution
[10:57] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know after you add hte line that starts with the #
[10:57] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: are you on the server?
[10:57] <TheBigToe> what's the command to install a deb file again?
[10:58] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, yeppers
[10:58] <gnomefreak> TheBigToe: sudo dpkg -i
[10:58] <TheBigToe> thanks
[10:58] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:58] <amr2> !easysource
[10:58] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:58] <damg__> what's the default root password of the breezy live cd? gonna help my friend to setup grub, but don't know how sudo will react ;)
[10:58] <Xbox_guru> isn't my card supported in alsa
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know when your done
[10:58] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: pull up a console, and enter the following "smbpasswd -U username"
[10:58] <ferronica> gnomefreak: ok done added
[10:58] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: where username is your username
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ok now add this one
[10:58] <Rhine> How do i set up a static ip?
[10:58] <ferronica> gnomefreak: hit enter
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ferronica: deb http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas al
[10:58] <Seveas> s/al/all/
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ferronica: yes they need to be on seperate lines
[10:58] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: it will ask you for a password. enter it
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ack
[10:59] <amphi> Rhine: ifconfig, or for permanence, /etc/network/interfaces - see man 5 interfaces
[10:59] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: that should be it.
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ferronica: deb http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all
[10:59] <gnomefreak> thanks Seveas
[10:59] <Seveas> np 
[10:59] <Seveas> my highlight is going crazy :
[10:59] <Arrick> ok ubuntu networking gurus, is it possible to get more than one nic workign at the same time in ubuntu? say 3 different kinds?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> sorry :(
[10:59] <NoUse> Arrick yeah
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know when your done
[11:00] <ferronica> gnomefreak: done
[11:00] <Xbox_guru> hello, I am having a sound problem, when I click the volume control it says no device or element to control, when I do lspci, my sound card comes up as this, 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[11:00] <gnomefreak> ferronica: save and close it
[11:00] <Xbox_guru> isn't that supported by alsa
[11:00] <ferronica> gnomefreak: tell me what all these are???
[11:00] <amphi> Xbox_guru: do you have the module loaded?
[11:00] <hasan> hey, i was just wondering how compiling works in linux
[11:00] <pinocchio> servas alle miteinand!
[11:00] <hasan> like if i have a program and i want to compile it- how do i do that?
[11:00] <pinocchio> .configure
[11:01] <gnomefreak> ferronica: the line that started with # was a comment the line that started with deb is a repo
[11:01] <Xbox_guru> amphi, how do I load it
[11:01] <amphi> Xbox_guru: snd_cs4610 or summat IIRC
[11:01] <pinocchio> sorry ./configure
[11:01] <Arrick> NoUse, after i get the ubuntu server installed, you gonna help me do it?
[11:01] <Rhine> amphi, what do i type for the man 5 interface?
[11:01] <blue-frog> I want to restrict user login following a time range, can anyone help pls?
[11:01] <jramsey> NoUse, i see nothing in the sources.list that i dont have http://pastebin.ca/56945
[11:01] <NoUse> !tell hasan about compile
[11:01] <pinocchio> make
[11:01] <pinocchio> su
[11:01] <amphi> Rhine: 'man 5 interfaces' ;)
[11:01] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, ok ill head over to the other machine again and try
[11:01] <pinocchio> or sudo
[11:01] <NoUse> Arrick it shoudl auto detect them all
[11:01] <pinocchio> make install
[11:01] <ferronica> gnomefreak: do i close it now
[11:01] <redguy> hasan: it depends on the build system
[11:01] <gnomefreak> ferronica: after you click save and close it
[11:01] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: k
[11:01] <gnomefreak> click save first ferronica
[11:01] <JohnnyNo5> is there a good tutorial on where stuff is in a linux filesystem? like, where apache's htdocs would be, where mysql's files would be, etc ? I'm 100% lost...
[11:01] <pinocchio> only if make runs without errors!!
[11:02] <NoUse> jramsey you only have multiverse enabled on backports
[11:02] <redguy> JohnnyNo5: a good place to start is the File Hierarchy Standard
[11:02] <pinocchio> :)
[11:02] <gnomefreak> ferronica: after closing it type the next command i giv eyou
[11:02] <Arrick> it does but i dont know how to activate alof them in command NoUse
[11:02] <gnomefreak> ferronica: sudo apt-get update
[11:02] <redguy> JohnnyNo5: its on tldp.org
[11:02] <JohnnyNo5> redguy well, that sounds like what i'd want to read... don't know where to find it tho
[11:02] <NoUse> Arrick I won't be around much longer
[11:02] <JohnnyNo5> ok. will look, thanks
[11:02] <eliphas_> hello
[11:02] <amphi> Xbox_guru: try sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx perhaps
[11:03] <Xbox_guru> amphi, the one said no module found and the other said command not found
[11:03] <ferronica> gnomefreak: done
[11:03] <gray> JohnnyNo5: www.pathname.com
[11:03] <JohnnyNo5> nice. looks like a really useful site
[11:03] <gnomefreak> ferronica: you ran sudo apt-get update?
[11:03] <ferronica> yes
[11:03] <amphi> Xbox_guru: what said 'command not found' ?
[11:03] <NoUse> http://pastebin.ca/56945
[11:03] <NoUse> oops sorry guys
[11:03] <redguy> JohnnyNo5: FHS is general, most distributions differ in certain aspects
[11:03] <ferronica> gnomefreak: hey ubuntu showing me update
[11:04] <Xbox_guru> summat IIRC
[11:04] <gnomefreak> ferronica: yes i figured as much but wait
[11:04] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, worked like a charm
[11:04] <siorai> okay, well, I can't edit the xorg.conf file via a text editor can I ? it's giving me errors when I want to save it or whatever * growls*
[11:04] <jramsey> NoUse, i see breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[11:04] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: good!
[11:04] <pinocchio> posted already before, strange thing cant really explain it, ill give it a try. my sister was getting errors under windows (wow) "bluescreens" then she updated to a new amd 64 system, now i tried to use the leftover -> mainboard and cpu and find out the error
[11:04] <gnomefreak> ferronica: never mind do the updates you have and after that open synaptic and search for sun-java you will see the one you want there
[11:04] <aLPHa_LeaK> n8
[11:05] <NoUse> jramsey yeah that only unables multiverse on backports
[11:05] <Mysta_> hello, i probably should boot into my 386 kernel to uninstall my 686-smp right??
[11:05] <hasan> what is rpm file?
[11:05] <NoUse> !tell jramsey about repos
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[11:05] <hastesaver> gnomefreak, go slow :)
[11:05] <pinocchio> and until i rised the voltage for the cpu the whole system is running stable :p
[11:05] <NoUse> jramsey follow the link ubotu sent you
[11:05] <pinocchio> why?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: ;)
[11:05] <gnomefreak> Mysta_: i would
[11:05] <amphi> Mysta_: better not to uninstall the running kernel ;)
[11:05] <ferronica> gnomefreak: error
[11:05] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, now that ive set smb password does that affect my pwd for login on the server? or is that pwd for smb only?
[11:05] <ferronica> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas/al Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl_dists_breezy-seveas_al_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:05] <Mysta_> amphi: thanks, i had to ask though
[11:05] <gnomefreak> ferronica: gpg error?
[11:05] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: smb only.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> ack
[11:05] <Archville> Hello. I have a problem with my mouse buttons. When i play games, it can't detect both buttons pressed at the same time.
[11:06] <amphi> ferronica: do sudo apt-get update
[11:06] <hastesaver> hasan, rpm's are Red Hat Package Management files.
[11:06] <Nameless`> apt-get install better mouse
[11:06] <Seveas> ferronica, it's all, not al
[11:06] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, can i setup more users like that on smb?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> ferronica: no dont
[11:06] <pinocchio> guess mainboard was losing voltage somewhere ....
[11:06] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: there is a way to sync the two together, however. but if you use the shares only, and never the local system, i wouldn't worry about it.
[11:06] <gnomefreak> ferronica: add the 2nd l to the end of it
[11:06] <Archville> Nameless`, _
[11:06] <amphi> Seveas: heh
[11:06] <Arrick> hehe :^)
[11:06] <scumm_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14227 --> I'M aplying the 2.6.17 patch to a 2.6.16! what's wrong? why it doesn't work ?
[11:06] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: yeap. hundereds
[11:06] <gnomefreak> ferronica: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:06] <ferronica> gnomefreak: u mean upgrade
[11:06] <gnomefreak> ferronica: ^^^ run that commadn
[11:06] <gnomefreak> oops
[11:06] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: but you need a higher level of permission to add new users.
[11:06] <hastesaver> hasan, but you usually shouldn't be installing from them; better to install from the repos directly (IMHO)
[11:06] <ferronica> gnomefreak; its downloding something
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ferronica: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:07] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: you have to be an administrator, and not just a standard user.
[11:07] <Georgescott> so...
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ferronica: hit crtl+c
[11:07] <Xbox_guru> amphi: i tried everything you said and it hasn't worked...
[11:07] <siorai> *thinks*
[11:07] <siorai> brb
[11:07] <Almenfors> well since im root it shouldnt be a problem
[11:07] <JohnnyNo5> when's ubuntu supposed to be final anyways? (like, out of beta)
[11:07] <hasan> hmm i am trying to get an ZSNES emulator tow work on my linux
[11:07] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: and for administration purposes, it is easier to just create user accounts to monitor, than strickly just samba accounts.
[11:07] <gnomefreak> JohnnyNo5: june 1
[11:07] <amphi> Xbox_guru: what can I do? find out what module that card needs, and modprobe it
[11:07] <JohnnyNo5> not bad...
[11:07] <pinocchio> i am a champignon
[11:07] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok i cancelled
[11:07] <amphi> Xbox_guru: I suggested the one I thought might be appropriate
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know when you get that file open again
[11:07] <JohnnyNo5> dunno if i'll just give up on it until then :/
[11:07] <ferronica> gnomefreak; now what
[11:08] <pinocchio> u heard me a mushroom
[11:08] <JohnnyNo5> so many issues...
[11:08] <pinocchio> :)
[11:08] <gnomefreak> ferronica: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:08] <hasan> it says i need SDL, NASM, ZLIB and libpng
[11:08] <Xbox_guru> amphi, thank you
[11:08] <pinocchio> sli
[11:08] <hasan> it says i need SDL, NASM, ZLIB and libpng to make my emulator work....i am wondering how i can install all these packages
[11:08] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, is there someway to see the accounts?
[11:08] <hasan> do i just go to their website and try to install them?
[11:08] <gnomefreak> ferronica: look for the lines you just added to that file adn add an  l to the end so it reads /all
[11:08] <pinocchio> what is with sli does ubuntu support sli?
[11:08] <hastesaver> hasan, didn't the zsnes package in the repos work? Did you try that first?
[11:08] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: do you have remote desktop setup, and VNC installed?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know when its fixed
[11:09] <Mysta_> he sure does!
[11:09] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, yep
[11:09] <JohnnyNo5> just booted it up, opened/clicked nothing, then the update icon appeared at the top, clicked it, entered the pwd, and now it tells me to close the "other" admnin app (apt or synaptic) but i didn't open either one :(
[11:09] <hasan> hastesaver...dumb question...how do i access the respository
[11:09] <gnomefreak> JohnnyNo5: dapper?
[11:09] <JohnnyNo5> so there's nothing i can do
[11:09] <JohnnyNo5> yes
[11:09] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: you go to "system --> administration -> users and groups
[11:09] <gnomefreak> JohnnyNo5: #ubuntu+1 please for dapper
[11:09] <JohnnyNo5> ok, thanks
[11:09] <ferronica> gnomefreak; what to add at
[11:09] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:09] <hastesaver> hasan, Have you used Synaptic before?
[11:09] <hasan> yeah
[11:09] <ferronica> gnomefreak; in every line
i r zeh elite.. got proftpd & webalizer to cooperate :D
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ferronica: you see the last thing you added?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> the last line ferronica
[11:10] <hastesaver> ferronica, only in the place it says "al" -- that should be "all"
[11:10] <gnomefreak> ferronica: deb http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all
[11:10] <TheBigToe> is there any way to have a sysinfo panel on the desktop in ubuntu, like I saw in Damn Small Linux once?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> ferronica: make it look like the one i just posted
[11:10] <hasan> hastesaver, which pakacge is synaptic do i have to install to access zsnes
 hastesaver...dumb question...how do i access the : open cosole and type sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:10] <hastesaver> hasan, look for the package zsnes
[11:10] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok done
[11:11] <pinocchio> and add the fu**ing lines
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ferronica: after you fix that line click save and close
[11:11] <jramsey> NoUse, ok its now in synaptic and marked for install; do i have to manually kick off the pkg install?
[11:11] <Tedd> pinocchio, no need for that dude
[11:11] <hastesaver> pinocchio, no thanks.
[11:11] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, for some reson i cant access users/groups cus now he wont accept my pwd i used to have
[11:11] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok done
[11:11] <NoUse> jramsey click "Apply Changes"
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ferronica: sudo apt-get update
[11:11] <pinocchio> no problem, always like to help :)
[11:11] <ultima1> Crap
[11:11] <TheBigToe>  is there any way to have a sysinfo panel on the desktop in ubuntu, like I saw in Damn Small Linux once?
[11:11] <amphi> hasan: or just do sudo apt-get install zsnes in a term
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know when its done
[11:12] <jramsey> NoUse, the Apply button is grayed out
[11:12] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: lol
[11:12] <amphi> TheBigToe: many
[11:12] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: try the samba passwd
[11:12] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok done
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ferronica: any errors?
[11:12] <TheBigToe> amphi, can you suggest one?
[11:12] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, same thing doesnt work either lol
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ferronica: or just the gpg warning?
[11:12] <NoUse> jramsey just go to the console and run 'sudo apt-get install dvdrip'
[11:12] <ferronica> gnomefreak; yes
[11:12] <amphi> TheBigToe: torsmo is one
[11:12] <hasan> umm, i don't think i have a zsnes package...does it come standard with UBUNTU linux?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ferronica: same error as before?
[11:13] <CyaniCs> Almenfors: no idea what to tell you on that one. you didn't change anything having to do with user logins
[11:13] <joapsk8> hello
[11:13] <amphi> TheBigToe: I run gkrellm in openbox's slit sometimes
[11:13] <hastesaver> hasan, you need to enable multiverse; just a sec I'll tell you how to do that --
[11:13] <hastesaver> !tell hasan about multiverse
[11:13] <TheBigToe> ok amphi, I'll try torsmo
[11:13] <amphi> TheBigToe: handier than having the display on the root window which is usually hidden
[11:13] <ferronica> gnomefreak; at that time when i updated, ubuntu shows me popup update available
[11:13] <Almenfors> cyan nopes i followed ur instructions lol
[11:13] <gnomefreak> ferronica: im not worried about that yet
[11:13] <ferronica> gnomefreak; 4 updated
[11:13] <gnomefreak> ferronica: what are the erros?
[11:13] <jramsey> NoUse, ok installing ... txs for ur patience ... will try it and let u know when it is finished
[11:14] <gnomefreak> errors?
[11:14] <hasan> hasan@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install zsnes
[11:14] <hasan> Reading package lists... Done
[11:14] <hasan> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:14] <hasan> E: Couldn't find package zsnes
[11:14] <Almenfors> CyaniCs, ill logout and back in
[11:14] <ferronica> gnomefreak; in terminal
[11:14] <gnomefreak> hasan: dont paste in here
[11:14] <ferronica> gnomefreak; should i paste here
[11:14] <amphi> !repos
[11:14] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ferronica: yes do they say something about gpg keys?
[11:14] <Blippe> hasan apt-cache search snes
[11:14] <hastesaver> hasan, did you read that link ubotu sent you? (Or just look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto )
[11:14] <ferronica> gnomefreak; yes
[11:14] <LAzErPEW> I want to install Automatix, but when I do the "sudo dpkg"-thingy in Terminal, it want me to write a password, but what password? :S
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ferronica: leave them be
[11:14] <Xbox_guru> amphi: I found a website that I think will work for me, can you assist me in what to do, http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Sound_on_the_Thinkpad_600E
[11:14] <Inazad> Hi there, I have downloaded the lastest version of Firefox and I want to install it but I don't know how.. I have downloaded an archive...  please help me!
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ferronica: ok do the updates
[11:14] <ferronica> gnomefreak; showing me keys
[11:14] <ultima1> Okay, I broke it
[11:15] <Blippe> LAzErPEW, you don't want to install Automatix
[11:15] <ultima1> I broke my OS : /
[11:15] <hastesaver> LAzErPEW, no, you don't want to install Automatix
[11:15] <amphi> Xbox_guru: ooh, a stinkpad ;)
[11:15] <gnomefreak> ferronica: we will worry about that later
[11:15] <joapsk8> what mean enable the universe in a repertory?
[11:15] <pinocchio> dam* all bots to hel* !!!
[11:15] <NoUse> !tell LAzErPEW about easyubuntu
[11:15] <ferronica> gnomefreak; it showing me keyssssssss
[11:15] <gnomefreak> ferronica: ignore that for now and do your updates
[11:15] <blue-frog> !tell blue-frog about easyubuntu
[11:15] <Xbox_guru> amphi, no its not a thinkpad, but that's a website I found
[11:15] <LAzErPEW> hehehe, thanks ^
[11:15] <hastesaver> !tell joapsk8 about repos
[11:15] <ferronica> gnomefreak; which one terminal
[11:15] <Xbox_guru> amphi, do I just do those modprobes
[11:16] <ferronica> gnomefreak; showuld i update my ubuntu via pop up
[11:16] <gnomefreak> ferronica: the pop up that showed you you had 4 updates do them
[11:16] <gnomefreak> ferronica: yes
[11:16] <ultima1> My ubuntu box won't even boot anymore, it just givecs me the blinking underscore after the bios.. nothing else... *pouts*
[11:16] <amphi> Xbox_guru: I'm disappointed
[11:16] <kbrooks> EU seems famoys to me
 thats what its for
[11:16] <kbrooks> am I correct?
[11:16] <kbrooks> famous*
[11:16] <amphi> Xbox_guru: you will not that that is for an isa card, your is pci, right?
[11:16] <jramsey> NoUse, ok i am screwed; i missed this but i've a cd r/w not a dvd ... i will have to upgrade
[11:16] <Inazad> Hi there, I have downloaded the lastest version of Firefox and I want to install it but I don't know how.. I have downloaded an archive...  please help me!
[11:16] <Abountu> I just downloaded and installed kde-deskotp (using apt-get), how can I create a new user with kde as default manager?
[11:16] <JohnnyNo5> how can one tell if apt or synaptic running? i tried ps -aux but noticed nothing...
[11:17] <NoUse> jramsey haha ok
[11:17] <ferronica> gnomefreak; its dowloding packages
[11:17] <amphi> kbrooks: ?
[11:17] <Anton__> JohnnyNo5: ps -ef | grep synaptic
[11:17] <Nameless`> someone able to explain my how come if i chmod a directory to 750 i can still access the directory but the directorys within i can't
[11:17] <ferronica> gnomefreak; applets,java
[11:17] <jramsey> NoUse, txs for ur patience ... once i swap out the cdrw with a dvd. how do i get ubuntu to autodetect it?
[11:17] <CyaniCs> Inazad: in a console, type apt-get install firefox.
[11:17] <Nameless`> while i expected i cannot access the directory itself anymore
[11:17] <JohnnyNo5> thanks Anton__
[11:17] <CyaniCs> Inazad: that will install the latest.
[11:17] <hastesaver> Nameless`, because chmod is not recursive. Use -R if you want recursive
[11:17] <NoUse> jramsey step 1) turn the machine on, thee is no step 2 :-)
[11:17] <amphi> Xbox_guru: er, you will _note_ that...
[11:18] <Inazad> CyaniCs, ok I will test this..
[11:18] <Nameless`> hastesaver then the directory itself wont be reachable anymore?
[11:18] <joapsk8> anyone knons how to install the skin MOCKUP things from gnome-look.com
[11:18] <Xbox_guru> amphi, quoted off of the website " known for being incorrectly identified as a CS4610/11 by Linux utilities such as lspci."
[11:18] <jramsey> NoUse, :) step 2: don't even turn on my winxp computer again
[11:18] <LAzErPEW> Easyubuntu want me to write a password too, what to write? :S
[11:18] <nickrud> can anyone else repeat this bug: add the calculator to the panel via right clicking the calculator on the menu, then selecting it's properties. I show no icon in the properties. Iago from the games menu shows a different icon in properties than it does on the panel
[11:18] <ultima1> Holy COW
[11:18] <amphi> Xbox_guru: do you know it's an isa card?
[11:18] <hastesaver> Nameless`, 750 means you can do everything, so it will always be reachable to you.
[11:18] <Inazad> CyaniCs, it said that I have the lastest version but I want the 1.5 ...
[11:18] <CyaniCs> ah.
[11:18] <Inazad> CyaniCs, I have it into an archive
[11:18] <ultima1> I waited for 10 minutes.. and it just now came up with GRUB Loading stage1.6.
[11:18] <JohnnyNo5> well. it finds nothing (except the grep process). guess it's broke... eh
[11:18] <CyaniCs> Inazad: ok, what did you download
[11:18] <ferronica> gnomefreak; java package
[11:19] <Xbox_guru> amphi, no I don't, I got this computer from my dad's work and it came "as is"
[11:19] <CyaniCs> Inazad: a tarball?
[11:19] <redguy> ultima1: 1.6??
[11:19] <Nameless`> hastesaver yah but shouldnt be for non-groups right?
[11:19] <ferronica> gnomefreak; gnome system tools
 also was wondering if i should until i "purchased" quake 4 hihi
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ferronica: did the updates finish?
[11:19] <Anton__> JohnnyNo5: ps -ef | grep apt
[11:19] <ultima1> 1.5*, lol
[11:19] <ferronica> gnomefreak; downloding
[11:19] <Nameless`> and as non-group i can still access the directory, but i cannot reach the directorys within
[11:19] <pinocchio> its nice game
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ferronica: click update
[11:19] <JohnnyNo5> i tried that too
[11:19] <Anton__> JohnnyNo5: otherwise it is not running..
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let them run
[11:19] <Inazad> CyaniCs, I have firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz
[11:19] <ultima1> GRUB loading, please wait. . .
[11:19] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok done
[11:19] <Inazad> CyaniCs, for linux of course
[11:19] <JohnnyNo5> neither are running, and the updater is telling me it can't run because another admin app is running...
[11:19] <tokeman> hey does anyone know of a NSV plugin or package for ubuntu?
[11:19] <hastesaver> Nameless`, what exactly do you want to do? Prevent others (those not in group) from reading your directory?
[11:19] <JohnnyNo5> ...and they aren't.
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ferronica: after they are done open synaptic and click on search
[11:19] <hasan> hastesaver, i am reading the link now
[11:19] <joapsk8> this is for cray i can't read nothing
[11:19] <ultima1> I'm really wondering why this is taking so long
[11:20] <ferronica> gnomefreak; NOW what to do that terminal
[11:20] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Inazad -about ff1.5
[11:20] <jramsey> pinocchio, so u say dump the cdrw and upgrade to dvd? any suggestions as to manuf.??
[11:20] <amphi> Xbox_guru: you could try those commands; the worst is the card will still not work
[11:20] <Xbox_guru> amphi, It had windows xp on it, xp got screwed up I reformatted, put windows 2000 on it, then herd that windows was cutting support for 2000 in july
[11:20] <gnomefreak> ferronica: nothing
[11:20] <huraxprax> Inazad: forget about downloading tar.gz archives
[11:20] <gnomefreak> ferronica: open synaptic
[11:20] <Anton__> JohnnyNo5: have u tried to reboot?
[11:20] <Xbox_guru> amphi, so I switched to linux and found a much better os
[11:20] <ferronica> gnomefreak; what abot GPG key
[11:20] <Inazad> huraxprax, I want the lastest version of Firefox
[11:20] <gnomefreak> huraxprax: you have to
[11:20] <gnomefreak> ferronica: forget it right now
[11:20] <amphi> Xbox_guru: hurrah! ;)
[11:20] <hasan> hasan@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache search snes
[11:20] <hasan> adonthell - A 2D graphical roleplaying game
[11:20] <hasan> gcpegg - Global Consciousness Project EGG Software
[11:20] <hasan> visualboyadvance - a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator
[11:20] <hasan> kodo - mouse odometer for KDE
[11:20] <pinocchio> no dont need no dvd under winstupid there are other options
[11:20] <Inazad> gnomefreak, thx
[11:20] <huraxprax> firefox is part of ubuntu sop install it with their package manager, it can download updates automatically
[11:20] <pinocchio> :))
[11:21] <amphi> Xbox_guru: if it's not an old machine, I'd be surprised if it was an isa card
[11:21] <NoUse> !tell hasan about paste
[11:21] <CyaniCs> Inazad: extract the tarball with tar -zxvf
[11:21] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok synaptic opened
[11:21] <gnomefreak> huraxprax: ff1.5 isnt in breezy
[11:21] <Arrick_> am i here?
[11:21] <tokeman> !NSV
[11:21] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tokeman
[11:21] <Arrick_> ok
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ferronica: click on search
[11:21] <Inazad> CyaniCs, i will follow a wiki.. thx a lot
[11:21] <ferronica> gnomefreak; what to type
[11:21] <huraxprax> ok then
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ferronica: in the search bar type java
[11:21] <Dave-B> Hi, I'm trying to convert a wav to flac using soundconverter on 5.10 - but it produces an empty file. Any ideas how to fix this?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> hit enter
[11:22] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know when the java things load
[11:22] <blue-frog> anybody could help me to restrict a user login session following time of day?
[11:22] <amphi> Dave-B: try mencoder?
[11:22] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok done
[11:22] <gnomefreak> ferronica: scroll down to the s section
[11:22] <gnomefreak> you are looking for the word sun-java
[11:22] <Dave-B> amphi: Ah good idea - I'll try.
[11:22] <pinocchio> 2all who have anykind of problems just hit strg+alt+entf!!!
[11:22] <Xbox_guru> amphi, modprobe cs4232 cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=9
[11:22] <Xbox_guru> FATAL: Error inserting cs4232 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/oss/cs4232.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:23] <Anton__> Dave-B: make sure that the flac encoding library is installed.
[11:23] <gnomefreak> Xbox_guru: dont paste in here
[11:23] <pinocchio> free booz and porn will follow
[11:23] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok done
[11:23] <Xbox_guru> gname, it was small, I usualy put long ones in pastebin
[11:23] <cjones> how do you run firefox inside of term?
[11:23] <Xbox_guru> *gnome
[11:23] <gnomefreak> ferronica: do you see sun-java1.5 or something like that
[11:23] <amphi> Xbox_guru: sudo
[11:24] <Xbox_guru> amphi, same error
[11:24] <Dave-B> Anton__: Yup, libflac7 and libflac++5c2 are present
[11:24] <Arrick> ok guys, I just got an error that said "The debootstrap exited with an error(return value 1) check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details"
[11:24] <ferronica> gnomefreak; there is sun-j2re 1.4,1.5
[11:24] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- This nickname is owned by someone else
[11:24] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[11:24] <amphi> Xbox_guru: just try sudo modprobe cs4232 for now
[11:24] <gnomefreak> ferronica: you want 1.5
[11:25] <Arrick> what does that mean?
[11:25] <ferronica> gnomefreak; there is sun-j2sdk1.4 and 1.5
[11:25] <DarkED> hey all, need some help, just got the new 686 kernel going from an older 686 kernel, when i try to boot it i get 'kernel panic - not syncing, vfs, could not mount root fs'
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ferronica: click the little box on left please than click apply
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ferronica: j2re
[11:25] <ferronica> gnomefreak; yes i want latest one
[11:25] <Xbox_guru> amphi, "no such device"
[11:25] <Xbox_guru> amphi, your right
[11:25] <ferronica> gnomefreak; okay
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ferronica: click apply
[11:25] <gnomefreak> than click ok
[11:25] <ferronica> gnomefreak; what os SDK for
[11:25] <gnomefreak> sdkis for development of java
[11:25] <ompaul> +J (join throttling)
[11:25] <ferronica> gnomefreak; is that is different
[11:26] <Anton__> Dave-B: i've never used the soundconverter.. but i've had issues with converting stuff.. normally it is if the library is not present, or the app can't find the library's location.
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ferronica: yes they are differnet
[11:26] <ferronica> gnomefreak; for programming
[11:26] <ferronica> ok
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ferronica: yes
[11:26] <amphi> Xbox_guru: sorry about that :(
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ferronica: you want j2re
[11:26] <ferronica> gnomefreak; yes, which one i click 1.4 or 1.5
[11:26] <gnomefreak> 1.5
[11:26] <Xbox_guru> amphi, man this stinks, no sound...
[11:26] <Siorai> I think I know what happened... at least I think so
[11:26] <C|int> hello everyone,
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ferronica: j2re1.5
[11:27] <hasan> hastesaver i found a gameboy advance repository but not an zsnes one
[11:27] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok done
[11:27] <DarkED> ahh no wonder, my /boot partition is full
[11:27] <DarkED> well...hell
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ferronica: click apply
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ferronica: than in the popup click ok
[11:27] <Siorai> I have it set to external monitor on my notebook...
[11:27] <hasan> hastesaver i only found a gameboy advance repository but not an zsnes one
[11:27] <Siorai> but... I had thte resolution supported before...
[11:27] <hastesaver> hasan, have you enabled multiverse?
[11:27] <Arrick> ok guys, I just got an error that said "The debootstrap exited with an error(return value 1) check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details"
[11:27] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok downloding something now
[11:27] <Arrick> what does that mean?
[11:27] <hastesaver> hasan, don't repeat, don't paste.
[11:27] <hasan> k
[11:27] <amphi> Xbox_guru: try "find /lib/modules`uname -r` -name 'snd_cs*.ko'" without the "", and see if that turns up any modules
[11:28] <Siorai> I think a while ago, when I first started having this problem... I hooked thte internal back up,... but it still went to the external
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ferronica: downloading java
[11:28] <damg__> what does #
[11:28] <damg__> map          (hd0) (hd1)
[11:28] <damg__> #
[11:28] <damg__> map          (hd1) (hd0) do?
[11:28] <damg__> or, sorry
[11:28] <cjones> how do you run firefox inside of a term. window?\
[11:28] <Siorai> so... I just turned it off and then unplugged it from the motherboard...
[11:28] <ferronica> gnomefreak; but what abot terminal
[11:28] <damg__> cjones~# should be mozilla-firefox
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let us finish one thing at a time ok
[11:29] <ferronica> gnomefreak; OK
[11:29] <gnomefreak> ferronica: when its done let me know
[11:29] <ferronica> gnomefreak; do u know any bandwidth monitor application for ubuntu
[11:29] <skript> i run 'sudo -i' and changed hwclock and systemtime to be 2 hours earlier than it was... no i can't get into 'sudo -i' because it tells me that 'timestamp too far in the future'... what now ?
[11:29] <cjones> but when i do that it opens anuther window ?
[11:29] <sander> anyone know about a linux compatible pda.... or any small linux compatible device with bluetooth?
[11:29] <ferronica> gnomefreak; Ok i will
[11:29] <hasan> hastesaver yes i enabled multiuniverse
[11:29] <TheBigToe> yawn
[11:29] <TheBigToe> night guys
[11:30] <hastesaver> hasan, a package called zsnes is there in multiverse; do an update (or "Refresh"?) and search again
[11:30] <pinocchio-will-n> opps how did i end up here again :p
[11:30] <C|int> hey gnomefreak
[11:30] <nickrud> cjones, firefox is not text program, it'll always open it's own window
[11:30] <gnomefreak> C|int:
[11:30] <Siorai> Holy cow... 7 minutes just to bring up thte GRUB? there's something wrong here
[11:30] <C|int> the network settings, detects my card, and lscpi and all, um, what you think I should do, still instal ndiswrapper eh,
[11:30] <Xbox_guru> amphi, is came up with nothing, just an arrow
[11:31] <C|int> what i would like, is more than a forum, and a master guide on, performing wireless commands and troubleshooting, know of any?
[11:31] <C|int> for dap*
[11:31] <amphi> Xbox_guru: have a look in /lib/modules-`uname -r`/kernel/sound/pci for any useful looking modules, and try modprobing them ;)
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !wireless
[11:31] <ubotu> methinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[11:32] <C|int> thanks :)
[11:32] <Siorai> So is there a reason why I tried the first solution on the res page, and now my box takes nearly 15 minutes to boot, along witht still not working/
[11:32] <cjones> yeah but i have seen it run in text mode once but cant figure out how i did it ?
[11:32] <damg__> can anyone validate a grub config pls for me? ubuntu installer put grub into the mbr of the wrong disk and i don't know if the config file is actually proper
[11:32] <ferronica> gnomefreak; do u know any bandwidth monitor application for ubuntu
[11:32] <damg__> http://pastebin.com/725423
[11:33] <HymnToLife> quick MySQL question : is there a way to reset the root MySQL password if I have sudo access on the server ?
[11:33] <damg__> windows is on sda1, linux is on hdb1
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ferronica: there is a few in synaptic but i dont know names off hand just search for bandwidth in it like you did with java
[11:33] <cjones> nicrud, yeah but i have seen it run in text mode once but cant figure out how i did it ?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Seveas: you have time for a fast pm?
[11:33] <Arrick> gnomefreak, nickrud did yo usee my last?
[11:33] <hastesaver> cjones, firefox cannot run in text mode.
[11:33] <Seveas> gnomefreak, always
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ty
[11:34] <damg__> cjones~# try links/lynx
[11:34] <hastesaver> cjones, Maybe you mean some other browser, like lynx or elinks
[11:34] <nickrud> Arrick, n
[11:34] <amphi> cjones: w3m is a nice text mode browser IMHO
[11:34] <Arrick> nickrud, , I just got an error that said "The debootstrap exited with an error(return value 1) check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details"
[11:34] <ferronica> gnomefreak; Okay
[11:34] <nickrud> Arrick, never done a bootstrap, sorry
[11:34] <Arrick> can you tell me what it means?
[11:34] <Arrick> this was during install
[11:34] <pinocchio-will-n> ?
[11:35] <cjones> no it was firefox  but i will ry one of those
[11:35] <rightcoast> or do you mean open from the cli? Like $ /usr/bin/firefox www.google.com?
[11:35] <nickrud> Arrick, read /target/var/log/bootstrap.log , where partition you were bootstrapping to?
[11:35] <pinocchio-will-n> hihi
[11:35] <Dempa> I wonder if anybody knows of a photo management app like gthumb or f-spot that can search for duplicates based on EXIF info?
[11:35] <Arrick> how do I read it if it didnt load an os?
[11:35] <nickrud> er s/partition/partition is the one/
[11:35] <Arrick> no command prompt
[11:35] <nickrud> live cd
[11:35] <pinocchio-will-n> give some sugar babe!
[11:35] <hastesaver> cjones, do you mean starting Firefox from the command line? A GUI app cannot inside the terminal...
[11:35] <Arrick> oh ok
[11:36] <ferronica> gnomefreak; Okay downloading completed..
[11:36] <amphi> Dempa: gqview perhaps; it can search for duplicates by several criteria
[11:36] <cjones> i dont know how i did but i had just gone to 1.5 and som how had it running in text mode in term.
[11:36] <Runi21> Hi..
[11:36] <amphi> cjones: no you didn't ;)
[11:36] <CyaniCs> cjones: i agree with amphi
[11:36] <C|int> hey ferronica, gkrellm pretty dang cool :-)
[11:36] <nickrud> cjones, maybe links or elinks or lynx
[11:36] <CyaniCs> cjones: it must have been links or something
[11:37] <hasan> dammit....i can't find the zsnes in the universe repositories
[11:37] <rightcoast> yeah it _had_ to be. firefox cant do it man
[11:37] <cjones> cool anyhow i want to do it a gain lol
[11:37] <Dempa> amphi, thanks, exactly what i was looking for
[11:37] <C|int> so is, gkdesklets etc,
[11:37] <Dave-B> amphi: I'm not too familiar with mencoder, but it seems to only want to handle video.
[11:37] <amphi> C|int: an oldie but goodie - if you like that, try the moaning goat meter ;)
[11:37] <^Spear> hm, any other good eyecandy tips
[11:37] <C|int> lol
[11:37] <ferronica> C|int: abot what u talking
[11:37] <^Spear> gdesklets is good :)
[11:37] <C|int> heay amphi :-)
[11:37] <amphi> Dave-B: it'll do sound
[11:37] <rexsum> why does ubuntu use esd instead of just alsa directly?
[11:37] <C|int> there so many, hee, :-)
[11:37] <hastesaver> ferronica, nevermind, call gnomefreak again :)
[11:38] <gnomefreak> ferronica: ?
[11:38] <tnewman> hey guys, I need some php help. I upgraded to php5, but that caused some problems with what I was doing, so I downgraded to php4, and now the server doesn't even seem to think php is installed.
[11:38] <C|int> depending on what gui environment you like, eh :P
[11:38] <ferronica> gnomefreak; Okay downloading completed..\\
[11:38] <tnewman> it just comes up with a "save as" box
[11:38] <ferronica> gnomefreak; now what???
[11:38] <tnewman> I've tried a2enmod
[11:38] <C|int> ferronica, what type of file is it
[11:38] <sameer`> -misc-console-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1' not found.
[11:38] <dooglus> !info zsnes
[11:38] <ubotu> zsnes: (Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM)), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.400-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 504 kB, Installed size: 3212 kB
[11:38] <antrax> buenassssssss
[11:38] <C|int> I think gnomefreak gets a litte overwhelmed sometimes.. ;)
[11:38] <gnomefreak> ferronica: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:38] <antrax> alguien me lle?
[11:38] <ferronica> C|int: what
[11:39] <gnomefreak> ferronica: ^^ type that in terminal
[11:39] <rexsum> !info aoss
[11:39] <tnewman> any ideas? I've tried totally uninstalling and reinstalling, both php4 and 5
[11:39] <hasan> dooglus- how do i install that?
[11:39] <damg__> cjones~# didnt you dig a firefox linked with the aalib somehow ? ^^
[11:39] <antrax> ALGUIEN ESPAOL?
[11:39] <Seveas> !es
[11:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:39] <antrax> ALGUIEN
[11:39] <ferronica> gnomefreak; what abot that GPG already opened
[11:39] <eth0-noob> can someone help me with firefox?
[11:39] <antrax> ALGUIEN ESPAOL?
[11:39] <C|int> hi Seveas :-)
[11:39] <Arrick> try ubuntu-es antrax
[11:39] <eth0-noob> i got the newest firefox
[11:39] <eth0-noob> but
[11:39] <Dave-B> amphi: I'm not keen to get my head around the millions of options mencoder has. I'll try a different approach: figuring out why flac isn't in my package list.
[11:39] <Seveas> hi C|int
[11:39] <CyaniCs> eth0-noob: !firefox
[11:39] <gnomefreak> ferronica: can you please do this in order
[11:39] <cjones> i am not sure
[11:39] <CyaniCs> !firefox
[11:39] <eth0-noob> !firefox
[11:39] <eth0-noob> ok.
[11:39] <C|int> hows your day going ..
[11:40] <oia_eu_dinovo_> OIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII] 
[11:40] <hasan> 1INFO ZSNES
[11:40] <dooglus> hasan: you use synaptic or apt-get
[11:40] <hasan> !infor zsnes
[11:40] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hasan
[11:40] <Seveas> oia_eu_dinovo_, drop the caps please
[11:40] <eth0-noob> anywayas, ill start doing stuff and ill login gmail account and it will finish loading, but say it is loading.
[11:40] <hasan> !info zsnes
[11:40] <ubotu> zsnes: (Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM)), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.400-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 504 kB, Installed size: 3212 kB
[11:40] <eth0-noob> and if i do anything it closes out firefox
[11:40] <eXtrEmE> :)
[11:40] <hasan> dooglus- how do i use synaptic to get it? i can't find it in my repositories
[11:40] <dooglus> hasan: enable multiverse first
[11:40] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok now
[11:40] <dooglus> !multiverse
[11:40] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:40] <DarkED> what is the switch to force a reinstall?
[11:40] <ferronica> gnomefreak; which one to choose
[11:40] <eth0-noob> i straced it but strace didnt tell me anything wrong... it just had a ? at end lol.
[11:40] <damg__> cjones~# I really advise you to get elinks as it is a very powerful console browser
[11:40] <hastesaver> hasan, it's multiverse, not universe
[11:40] <Abountu> how do I set Kde instead of gnome as the window manager for a user?
[11:40] <oia_eu_dinovo_> Seveas, sou brasileiro not ingles
[11:41] <damg__> cjones~# never heard of firefox running in text-mode
[11:41] <hasan> i think i enable multiverse
[11:41] <gnomefreak> ferronica: the one that says sunjava j2re 1.5
[11:41] <Seveas> !br
[11:41] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:41] <Seveas> ^-- oia_eu_dinovo_
[11:41] <eth0-noob> damg__ its not in textmode
[11:41] <eth0-noob> i did
[11:41] <eth0-noob> "strace firefox"
[11:41] <gnomefreak> ferronica: type the number of it only than hit enter
[11:41] <damg__> but?
[11:41] <flash__> hello
[11:41] <ferronica> gnomefreak; ok done
[11:41] <ferronica> gnomefreak; now
[11:41] <gnomefreak> ferronica: java -version?
[11:41] <flash__>  i just installed ubuntu, but the firefox is not the latest version, i tried looking in synaptics, but cant find version newer than 1.0.8... am i missing something?
[11:41] <eth0-noob> and it showed everything firefox was doing in xterm while actually running firefox
[11:41] <damg__> eth0-noob~# ah, can't test it :/ sitting in front of a windows machine right now :/
[11:41] <gnomefreak> ferronica: what does that commadn outptu
[11:41] <gnomefreak> output even
[11:42] <tnewman> I'd prefer to keep php4 if possible
[11:42] <ferronica> gnomefreak; Using `/usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java' to provide `java'.
[11:42] <dooglus> hasan: it's either in universe or multiverse, depending on what version of ubuntu you're running.  probably multiverse for you.
[11:42] <DarkED> ok my /boot partition was full so i went in and deleted any linux kernel images i never used
[11:42] <eth0-noob> does anyone have this problem or have had this problem/
[11:42] <eth0-noob> ?
[11:42] <oia_eu_dinovo_> Seveas,  Brazil
[11:42] <gercel> Does anyone know how to patch WARCRAFT 3 to 1.20 under WINE?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ok ferronica now we will worry about your gpg errors
[11:42] <Seveas> oia_eu_dinovo_, #ubuntu-br
[11:42] <Xbox_guru> amphi, I found one, snd-cs4xx.ko
[11:42] <DarkED> i tried to sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-22-686
[11:42] <ferronica> gnomefreak; Ok
[11:43] <Xbox_guru> amphi, what would I do to modprobe it
[11:43] <hastesaver> ferronica, you have java working, congrats!
[11:43] <ferronica> gnomefreak; should i exit now from terminal
[11:43] <flash__> eth0-noob, what problem?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> ferronica: type the commands exactly as i give them to you
[11:43] <DarkED> but it gives me an error code, says it cant delete something
[11:43] <dooglus> eth0-noob: did you try it in a new profile?
[11:43] <tnewman> Did I just get disconnected? It got really quiet here :)
[11:43] <hasan> okay i found it- dooglus- and i installed it using synaptic- now how do i access it?
[11:43] <ferronica> gnomefreak; which command
[11:44] <gnomefreak> ferronica: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 1135D466
[11:44] <gnomefreak> ferronica:  let me know when that one is done
[11:44] <dooglus> hasan: you run the program by typing 'zsnes' and you read the man page by typing 'man zsnes'
[11:44] <amphi> Xbox_guru: sudo modprobe snd-cs4xx and pray ;)
[11:44] <dooglus> hasan: it should also appear in your menu, and you can also read stuff in /usr/share/doc/zsnes/
[11:44] <oia_eu_dinovo_> you is portugues ?
[11:45] <ferronica> gnomefreak; should i copy paste that with number
[11:45] <Xbox_guru> amphi, it says the module isn't found... do I have to change directory
[11:45] <MiSS_n00b> hi can anybody help me with installing gyachi
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ferronica: type it as i typed it please
[11:45] <amphi> Xbox_guru: strange; no, cd won't help
[11:45] <gnomefreak> coping and pasting from here are on differnet lines so it wont turn out right
[11:45] <reversial> anyone here available to help me wit some wifi issues?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ferronica: if you see it all on one line go for it
[11:46] <ferronica> gnomefreak; Ok done
[11:46] <dooglus> DarkED: the kernel is in a mess in dapper at the moment
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ferronica: gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
[11:46] <ompaul> oia_eu_dinovo_, if you want to speak pr then /join #ubuntu-br here we speak english and its very busy with technical chat we don't do general conversation
[11:46] <flash__> i'm looking to install firefox 1.5, but it doesnt appears in synaptic, what can i do?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know when thats done it should end with ok
[11:46] <Xbox_guru> amphi, the filename is sna-cs46xx.ko
[11:46] <ferronica> gnomefreak; Ok Done
[11:46] <reversial> i'll take that as a NO then
[11:46] <Xbox_guru> *"snd-cs46xxx.ko
[11:46] <hastesaver> !tell flash__ about firefox1.5
[11:46] <floydwilde> does anyone know what this means: smb_add_request: request [df7bfde0, mid=8407]  timed out!
[11:46] <ompaul> oia_eu_dinovo_,  >>>/join #ubuntu-br <<< :-)
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ferronica: java is installed and no more gpg errors
[11:47] <oia_eu_dinovo_> ompaul, ;)
[11:47] <ferronica> gnomefreak: there is
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ferronica: sudo apt-ge update
[11:47] <[Utah] tristanbob> does anyone know when the preview release will be out?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get update
[11:47] <amphi> Xbox_guru: ffs, just modprobe the module by name, leaving off the terminal '.ko'
[11:47] <gnomefreak> [Utah] tristanbob: june 1
[11:47] <ferronica> gnomefreak:  gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
[11:47] <ferronica> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[11:47] <oboy> why does ubuntu includes kpdf? isn't that a kde like aplication?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ferronica: did it say ok at the end?
[11:47] <[Utah] tristanbob> gnomefreak: that is the preview date, or final date?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> final date for dapper release
[11:47] <ferronica> gnomefreak: YES
[11:48] <C|int> man :D
[11:48] <gnomefreak> ferronica: type sudo apt-get update
[11:48] <[Utah] tristanbob> gnomefreak: what about a flight 8 or beta 3 version
[11:48] <hastesaver> oboy, ubuntu includes kde-like aplications
[11:48] <DarkED> dooglus, so i should just use the older ones
[11:48] <C|int> ndisgtk is bad :D
[11:48] <gnomefreak> [Utah] tristanbob: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:48] <DarkED> dooglus, ok well how come it wont let me reinstall it?
[11:48] <dooglus> oboy: ubuntu doesn't include kpdf in the default install
[11:48] <qalimas> Is there a way to compile every package over again for 686, or download a 686-optimized (K)Ubuntu?
[11:48] <C|int> at least, works much better than command line, and for acer :-)
[11:48] <Seveas> oboy, Ubuntu includes KDE 
[11:48] <dooglus> DarkED: the dapper kernel isn't currently installable.  it'll be fixed soon enough I guess
[11:48] <DarkED> dooglus, im talking about the 686-22 NOT the 68623
[11:48] <C|int> ^_^
[11:48] <DarkED> dooglus, NO you dont understand
[11:48] <oboy> ok..
[11:48] <floydwilde> anyone know how to cure a samba hangover
[11:49] <ferronica> gnomefreak: some errors
[11:49] <DarkED> dooglus, it DOWNLOADS it but dpkg gives an error
[11:49] <Seveas> qalimas, not easily
[11:49] <Arrick> yeah get another drink floydwilde
[11:49] <gnomefreak> ferronica: paste them to pastebin please
[11:49] <hasan> is there anyway to unzip files in linux?
[11:49] <DarkED> dooglus, im not talking about the broken kernel
[11:49] <Xbox_guru> amphi, I spelled the module wrong, instead of puttig "46xx" i put "4xx"
[11:49] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[11:49] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:49] <Seveas> DarkED, errors  pastbin
[11:49] <ferronica> gnomefreak: Duplicate sources.list
[11:49] <floydwilde> other than having a bloody mary
[11:49] <C|int> dang, did you all take a number to speak with gnomefreak. o_O
[11:49] <DarkED> Seveas, im not on a good connection dude
[11:49] <gnomefreak> ferronica: did that error show before?
[11:49] <DarkED> Seveas, i cant get websites to load
[11:49] <hasan> nvm
[11:49] <Seveas> DarkED, *sigh* if you don't want to be helped, don't ask for help
[11:49] <ompaul> floydwilde, nfs, seriously if you have a question plese be explicit and do this /msg ubotu samba
[11:49] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:50] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i think YES
[11:50] <DarkED> Seveas, what is your problem
[11:50] <amphi> what a din ;)
[11:50] <baardi> ehm, what do i have to do to play mp3 songs in ubuntu?
[11:50] <DarkED> Seveas, not my fault i dont have a fast connection like you
[11:50] <gnomefreak> ferronica: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:50] <eggzeck> baardi: sudo apt-get install xmms
[11:50] <kbrooks> DarkED: irrevelant
[11:50] <DarkED> Seveas, some people have to make due with what they have, not EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS to pastebin
[11:50] <Xbox_guru> amphi, when it typed the module and pushed enter it came up with another line, is it supposed to say something after you modprobe
[11:50] <kbrooks> DarkED: YOU ARE STILL HERE
[11:50] <Seveas> DarkED, you can use irc. then you have enough to load a simple pastebin website
[11:50] <Seveas> now stop screaming
[11:50] <kbrooks> DarkED: dont rant
[11:50] <gnomefreak> ferronica: make sure you only have seveas repo once please
[11:51] <dooglus> DarkED: everyone has access to pastebin - it's just HTTP based
[11:51] <kbrooks> Seveas: thanks.
[11:51] <DarkED> I ALREADY TRIED TO USE PASTEBIN
[11:51] <DarkED> it wont load
[11:51] <wims> what's the name of this character in english  "
[11:51] <dooglus> DarkED: what happened?
[11:51] <amphi> Xbox_guru: not if it works ;) could you be a bit more informative?
[11:51] <Tedd> DarkED, NOT COOL CAPS.
[11:51] <dooglus> wims: that's a double quote
[11:51] <wims> thanks
[11:51] <DarkED> dooglus, server not found
[11:51] <C|int> amphi:
[11:51] <kbrooks> DarkED: what is the problem then kiddo?
[11:51] <C|int> almost got my wireless configured, :-)
[11:51] <Xbox_guru> amphi,, so f it works, nothing should appear after the modprobe
[11:51] <kbrooks> Seveas: who you +qing?
[11:51] <amphi> C|int: are you use the despised ndiswrapper?
[11:51] <C|int> nope :-)
[11:51] <ferronica> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14229
[11:52] <amphi> Xbox_guru: wtf did it say?
[11:52] <C|int> you must have the wrong clint :-)
[11:52] <Seveas> kbrooks, first dark due to a <tab> error
[11:52] <amphi> C|int: good ;) what card is it?
[11:52] <ramvi> I have a friend on the phone. He just installed breezy, but it didn't have the driver for his Wifi card. So we're following the walk-through here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51993&highlight=Netgear+WG111 but as he types iwconfig, wlan0 desn't show up. The commends before that one responds positive
[11:52] <ramvi> what do i do?
[11:52] <ramvi> or - he...
[11:52] <Seveas> then darked for being noisy and non-cooperative
[11:52] <jordi> woa this is a *huge* channel
[11:52] <amphi> C|int: yeah, I'm easily confused, and there is much raving ATM
[11:52] <C|int> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[11:52] <dooglus> DarkED: try adding it to your /etc/hosts then.  The IP is 194.145.194.141
[11:52] <kbrooks> Seveas: no one needs a "why". :-)
[11:52] <ompaul> !tell ramvi about ndiswrapper
[11:52] <njdube> Has any one here tried suse 10.1?  I was trying to get some information on wifi card compatibility or lack there of for suse 10.1.  And all they can do is give me links on how to fix it my self.  They couldn't give me a reasonable explanation after I told them it should work out of the box and I shouldn't have to hack shit I paid for.
[11:53] <C|int> ya don't have to tel me about ndiswrapper, I already know what its purpose is lol
[11:53] <fabio> como fao para instalar xmms
[11:53] <jordi> ok, I'm looking for testers for a new nano package that I'll be uploading to dapper soonish.
[11:53] <C|int> ;)
[11:53] <amphi> !br
[11:53] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:53] <amphi> !es
[11:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:53] <C|int> helo ompaul :-)
[11:53] <gnomefreak> ferronica: did you opent he file yet?
[11:53] <jordi> amphi: it was portuguese :)
[11:53] <jordi> any nano users around?
[11:53] <amphi> jordi: ok - it was ambiguous from here ;)
[11:54] <eggzeck> baardi: after installing xmms, run: killall gnome-panel
[11:54] <qalimas> jordi: here
[11:54] <Xbox_guru> amphi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14231
[11:54] <wims> how come there are so many people asking in spanish here? there's noone asking in for example german
[11:54] <amphi> Xbox_guru: *snarf*
[11:54] <ferronica> gnomefreak: which one
[11:54] <jordi> qalimas: ok. I'd like you to install a package that will show p in incoming.debian.org shortly
[11:54] <dooglus> wims: lots of people speak Spanish.  German is relatively unknown.
[11:54] <C|int> hm
[11:54] <Xbox_guru> amphi, huh?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> ferronica: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:54] <C|int> the wiki dam better than the forums it seems gnomefreak
[11:55] <jordi> and tell me if you notice anything weird. Specially if you have a customised nanorc for additional syntax regexes
[11:55] <wims> dooglus,  true
[11:55] <ferronica> gnomefreak: opened
[11:55] <amphi> Xbox_guru: according to that, it didn't output anything? what are you raving about?
[11:55] <C|int> so I"m almost smilin ;)
[11:55] <Seveas> jordi, installing debian packages on ubuntu is a bad idea
[11:55] <gnomefreak> C|int: they always are
[11:55] <jordi> Seveas: are there incompatibilities these days?
[11:55] <Xbox_guru> amphi, I was wondering if it worked or not
[11:55] <Seveas> jordi, always
[11:55] <gnomefreak> ferronica: take out one of the deb http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas/all entries
[11:55] <jordi> well, not always
[11:55] <amphi> Xbox_guru: it modprobed ok
[11:55] <Nameless`> dooglus pretty non-true yah a lot speak spanish though lots speak german as well
[11:55] <ferronica> gnomefreak: Ok done
[11:55] <sibblegp> can someone help me with a quick question?
[11:55] <Seveas> jordi, iirc there's already a glibc incompatibility
[11:55] <Xbox_guru> ok
[11:55] <jordi> aha
[11:55] <gnomefreak> ferronica: save and close it
[11:55] <dooglus> Nameless`: I said 'relatively'
[11:55] <Seveas> so you'd better ask in #debian
[11:55] <jordi> that's bad
[11:55] <gnomefreak> ferronica: sudo apt-get update
[11:56] <Nameless`> dooglus well maybe about 200 million speak spanish, but about 100 atleast speak german
[11:56] <ferronica> gnomefreak: Ok done
[11:56] <Nameless`> so its not that relative
[11:56] <jordi> well, this package is going to unstable, but then I'll do a ubuntu version getting rid of an unsatisfiable dep for ubuntu
[11:56] <sibblegp> I'm trying to install a VPN and it requires that I have the kernel source....is it included in the generic Ubuntu install or if not, where can I get it?
[11:56] <ompaul> !ask
[11:56] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[11:56] <wims> sibblegp,  it's better to state your problem than to ask to ask so to speak :)
[11:56] <amphi> Xbox_guru: did you see if your card works? try messing with alsamixer, and if that seems to work, try 'cat /deev/uramdom > /dev/dsp' with the volume turned somewhat down ;)
[11:56] <ferronica> gnomefreak: update DONE
[11:56] <jordi> if it's fucked up, debian can fix, ubuntu won't have that much time
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ferronica: let me know what happens after sudo apt-get update
[11:56] <sibblegp> wims, I just asked the question :)
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ferronica: no errors?
[11:56] <Arrick> !language
[11:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:56] <ferronica> gnomefreak: no problems
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ferronica: your done
[11:56] <ferronica> gnomefreak: no ERRORS this time
[11:56] <gnomefreak> i shall return
[11:56] <barefoot_bill> Is there a programm like CRYSTAL CPUID for linux too ?
[11:56] <wims> sibblegp, aha, the text is scrolling so fast i dont get everything :D
[11:57] <Nameless`> return you shall my paddawin gnomefreak
[11:57] <Seveas> jordi, dapper is deep-frozen, almost no chance of getting an update
[11:57] <jordi> Seveas: I have authorisation
[11:57] <Seveas> heh, ok 
[11:57] <jordi> :)
[11:57] <amphi> barefoot_bill: what does that do?
[11:57] <erUSUL> Nameless`: ~400 million speak spanish... (second, third most spoken language in the world) ;)
[11:57] <jordi> damn
[11:57] <Seveas> btw: why the update ?
[11:57] <C|int> okay, only problem I am lacking is, wlan0
[11:57] <jordi> this moquito is getting fed by me
[11:57] <barefoot_bill> overclock/underclock cpu
[11:57] <ompaul> sibblegp, that is a bad VPN use OpenVPN and sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.1.16
[11:57] <jordi> mosquito even
[11:58] <C|int> I got this though, for iwconfig
[11:58] <amphi> C|int: you have no wireless iface, or it's not called wlan0?
[11:58] <C|int> eth0      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[11:58] <C|int>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[11:58] <amphi> C|int: no pasting in the channel
[11:58] <C|int> going by eth1
[11:58] <C|int> dapper detected it, and labled it as eth0 i, I mean
[11:58] <C|int> my ethernet is eth1
[11:58] <amphi> C|int: that's the wifi iface; you can use ifrename if you _must_ have it called wlan0
[11:59] <C|int> okay, how I go about doing that, sorry for pasting :-)
[11:59] <Dave-B> amphi: Ah, figured it out. Problems with my repo list, due to a dead CD drive. Now using the nound-convert Nautilus script :-)
[11:59] <estupendocero> refresh my memory, where is the sources list for synaptic?
[11:59] <C|int> I"m fast, with command line, and all typing, so just tell me, and I got it like hot fudge sundae
[11:59] <Xbox_guru> amphi, thanks..., I'll keep trying