robotgeek | nixternal: lol | 12:03 |
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nixternal | i wonder if my puter is slowin' down now cuz i am running 6 desktops | 12:03 |
nixternal | god i love that feature | 12:03 |
slow-motion | n8 | 12:05 |
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wasp_ems | anyone use ktorrent? | 12:07 |
kOpter | Net split ... Net merge :) | 12:07 |
kOpter | Yeah, and it's pretty bad | 12:07 |
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wasp_ems | any better ideas? | 12:08 |
DaSkreech | It does Bad Weird Strange (c) things to my Torrents | 12:08 |
EvilIdler | KTorrent is atrocious. Couldn't recognise existing files for me, has no options for speed limiting | 12:08 |
kOpter | azureus | 12:08 |
wasp_ems | does anyone use dc++? | 12:08 |
EvilIdler | Azureus for advanced needs, multifile on a single limit. BitTornado for a file at a time. | 12:09 |
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kOpter | Qtorrent is also... workable | 12:09 |
DaSkreech | Why does Ktorrent ship by default then? | 12:09 |
stevekl | I can't get a mount point to mount automaticaly at startup, I removed 'noauto' from the options in fstab but it won't mount...any ideas? | 12:10 |
stevekl | I mean it will mount but not automaticaly at boot time | 12:10 |
kOpter | Because it fits in the KDE filosophy | 12:10 |
EvilIdler | stevekl: Filesystem? Tried the auto flag? | 12:10 |
wasp_ems | so any good torrent that has no problems? | 12:10 |
kOpter | Azeurus | 12:10 |
stevekl | EvilIdler: it's ext3...I didn't know there was an 'auto' flag | 12:10 |
stevekl | heh | 12:10 |
EvilIdler | wasp_ems: Azureus, BitTornado | 12:10 |
EvilIdler | stevekl: It shouldn't be needed, though, not for a harddrive | 12:11 |
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wasp_ems | ok..thanx..i know dc++ is really good but i do not seem to find anywhere how to set it up whereas in windows i can easily do it | 12:11 |
EvilIdler | stevekl: This is my fatab entry for the root partition: /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 | 12:11 |
stevekl | EvilIdler: well it's not a hard drive per se, it's a hard drive in an external enclosure | 12:12 |
stevekl | it's /dev/sdasomething | 12:12 |
stevekl | does that make a difference? | 12:12 |
EvilIdler | wasp_ems: In my opinion, none of the DC clients in Linux are good. I've been meaning to port the UI of DC++ to wx myself at some point..but so many programming projects ;) | 12:12 |
EvilIdler | stevekl: Then it's a harddrive. USB/FW devices are considered the same as internal ones on the systems where I have them | 12:12 |
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tuxedup | i have a quick question about kubutnu. Is it a stock KDE or is it modified at all with twaeks for the ubuntu base or anything? | 12:13 |
stevekl | EvilIdler: hm ok | 12:13 |
stevekl | I'm still not sure why it won't mount | 12:13 |
EvilIdler | stevekl: What's the fstab entry? | 12:13 |
stevekl | /dev/sda1 /home/stevekl/bigmedia ext3 defaults,auto 0 0 | 12:13 |
stevekl | I just added auto | 12:14 |
EvilIdler | stevekl: Seems alright to me..is it USB or firewire? | 12:14 |
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EvilIdler | stevekl: Is the entry AFTER mounting /home? | 12:14 |
exhale | is anyone here using logitech mx518? | 12:14 |
stevekl | It's USB | 12:14 |
EvilIdler | stevekl: You also have no guarantee that it actually gets mounted after /home, I think.. | 12:15 |
stevekl | EvilIdler: it is after /home yeah | 12:15 |
stevekl | ohhhhhhhhh | 12:15 |
stevekl | Yeah that might be the problem | 12:15 |
EvilIdler | stevekl: fstab mounts all devices in parallel, if I remember correctly | 12:15 |
stevekl | nested mount points = confusion | 12:15 |
EvilIdler | stevekl: I know a fix, though | 12:15 |
h3sp4wn | You just need to change the number | 12:15 |
EvilIdler | stevekl: Just make a "mountusb" script or something, then link it into /etc/rc2.d/ as S99something | 12:16 |
EvilIdler | 0 1 instead of 0 0? | 12:16 |
stevekl | yeah | 12:16 |
stevekl | Oh yeah | 12:16 |
h3sp4wn | 0 3 | 12:16 |
stevekl | I forgot all about that pass and dump system | 12:16 |
h3sp4wn | (if you have other stuff on the other ones) | 12:16 |
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stevekl | so I should change /dev/sda1 to 0-1? | 12:17 |
EvilIdler | The documentation for all those flags seems to be a bit everywhere :) | 12:17 |
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EvilIdler | stevekl: 0 3 | 12:17 |
wasp_ems | i am having a problem..at some points everything starts to freeze..if i logout and in again it is ok.it is the quivalent of explorer getting stuck in windows..any help? | 12:17 |
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stevekl | why 0 3? | 12:17 |
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h3sp4wn | stevekl: look in fstab root is probably on 0 1 any other partitions probably 0 2 so you want 0 3 to guarantee its last | 12:17 |
stevekl | /home is 0 0 | 12:17 |
h3sp4wn | my /home is 0 2 | 12:18 |
EvilIdler | The last flag is order, so 3 should be right | 12:18 |
stevekl | The first number is when to check it with fsck right? | 12:18 |
stevekl | I wonder if KDE has a gui for this | 12:18 |
patrick_ | ahmeni, Thanks for your help the other day with adept. I had a friend who edited my sources.list and now it works like a charm. Plus, I downloaded synaptic and will give it a try. | 12:19 |
EvilIdler | stevekl: qtparted, probably | 12:19 |
ahmeni | patrick_: no problem :) | 12:19 |
exhale | is anyone using a logitech mx mouse with ubuntu? | 12:19 |
stevekl | EvilIdler: ok thanks for all the help | 12:19 |
patrick_ | Just have to tweak the theme manager. I wasn't able to install any themes today. Maybe I missed a step. Oh well. | 12:20 |
stevekl | I think changing that one flag will do it | 12:20 |
kOpter | Does anyone know if a Geforce 2 MX will be enough for XGL? | 12:20 |
EvilIdler | Yes, next reboot should do the right thing | 12:20 |
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EvilIdler | kOpter: Someone else on the channel earlier had something older than that working nice and fast | 12:20 |
h3sp4wn | stevekl: You may have to run mount -a from /etc/rc.local or something if the usb takes too long to settle on bootup | 12:21 |
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kOpter | Hmm.. might be worth buying a second hand Geforce (PCI) then.. | 12:21 |
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rjb | hello | 12:21 |
wasp_ems | can someone tell me what to do..everything just starts to freeze..what the fuck is wrong. | 12:22 |
kOpter | Caus my ubuntu Barebone will only take PCI :X | 12:22 |
stevekl | wasp_ems: you'll need to be more specific | 12:22 |
rjb | Q: WTF is broken with amarok & mp3 in dapper?? | 12:22 |
jak08 | I have a Q. does kubuntu have kppp pre installed on it? | 12:22 |
kOpter | no | 12:22 |
wasp_ems | well either konqueror crashes either adept crashes either anything i have opened crashes and then it moves from one thing to the other until it is all stuck | 12:22 |
DaSkreech | wasp_ems: Language | 12:23 |
EvilIdler | jak08: It's installed here on my default installation | 12:23 |
kOpter | jak08 it's not on my default installation | 12:23 |
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wasp_ems | DaSkreech: what do u mean/ | 12:23 |
EvilIdler | In other words, 'it depends' :P | 12:23 |
jak08 | ok thank you | 12:23 |
kOpter | Running Dapper Drake. | 12:23 |
EvilIdler | Breezy here | 12:24 |
Bilford | if KWin crashes, do you have to reboot | 12:24 |
kOpter | Aha :) | 12:24 |
EvilIdler | Removed it now | 12:24 |
EvilIdler | Bilford: Reboot?! | 12:24 |
Bilford | yes | 12:24 |
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EvilIdler | I don't see why you'd need that, unless you replace hardware or a kernel | 12:24 |
Bilford | when it crashed, my taskbar disappeared, and windows lost their normal functionality | 12:24 |
Bilford | I ran kwin again from terminal, but windows were still messed up | 12:25 |
kOpter | Broken hardware? | 12:25 |
Bilford | also, how do you refresh the Start menu after installing new programs. sometimes they dont show up unless you reboot | 12:25 |
stevekl | Is there a difference between 'chmod -R xxx /whatever/*' and 'chmod xxx /whatever/*' | 12:26 |
rjb | stevkl, -R is recursive | 12:27 |
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EvilIdler | Just log out and back in, ctrl-alt-backspace is the emergency key-combination | 12:27 |
Bilford | ok ty | 12:28 |
EvilIdler | Bilford: Log out and back in, not reboot :) | 12:28 |
rjb | ok lemme ask again: is anyone able to play an mp3 with amarok on dapper?? | 12:28 |
Bilford | ok good | 12:28 |
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EvilIdler | There's never any need for reboots when it's a plain software problem | 12:29 |
EvilIdler | Only kernel issues and hardware | 12:29 |
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Bilford | it's easy to spot a former Windows user, I guess | 12:29 |
Bilford | I only switched about 2 weeks ago | 12:29 |
mardi | hi, some one help with how i best testing my vid card with kubuntu? | 12:29 |
EvilIdler | Bilford: Indeed :) | 12:29 |
mardi | i get 3000s with glxgears | 12:30 |
h3sp4wn | Evilidler: I have had unexplainable lockups when I have updated all of xorg and not rebooted (so I do now) | 12:30 |
Bilford | I think the main thing new people to Linux need to learn is: basically everything is configurable. if you dont like something, dont cry and give up. you can configure it | 12:30 |
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EvilIdler | h3sp4wn: If you remove the 'taint' from memory (rmmod nvidia), and reload, there shouldn't be any need to | 12:31 |
HymnToLife | and "you don"t need to reboot twice a week" | 12:31 |
HymnToLife | all in all "Linux is not Windows" :D | 12:32 |
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mardi | tuxcart runs kinda dodgy tho, and crashed once | 12:32 |
h3sp4wn | Tainted modules rarely remove cleanly in my experience | 12:33 |
h3sp4wn | apart from ath_hal | 12:33 |
stevekl | Is there an easy way to 'mirror' my KDE preferences between two computers (same version of KDE)? Can I just copy ~/.kde/ or is there more to it than that? | 12:33 |
kOpter | rjb: Yeah, no problem | 12:33 |
EvilIdler | Well, I only use one tainted module, nvidia, and it plays nice here. | 12:33 |
EvilIdler | YMMV etc. :) | 12:33 |
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mardi | i've installed the xorg-driver-fglrx for my asus raedon 9600xt | 12:36 |
rjb | hey, doesn't anyone here use amarok to play mp3's? | 12:37 |
kOpter | rjb: Yeah, no problem | 12:37 |
rjb | nope, on dapper & amd64 it doesn't work | 12:37 |
kOpter | Fresh dapper install? | 12:37 |
stevekl | you need the gstreamer mp3 package thingie | 12:37 |
rjb | dist-upgrade from breezy | 12:38 |
h3sp4wn | mardi: According to the release note of xorg 7 Upto 9600XT is supported by the 'radeon' driver now | 12:38 |
nixternal | initNG.... sudo ng-update add daemon/??? | 12:38 |
mardi | h3sp4wn: sweet, i'm wondering how i ensure it's working the best it can now though | 12:39 |
rjb | stevekl, there seems to be no gstreamer-plugin for dapper's amarok | 12:39 |
mardi | h3sp4wn: the graphics and gui seems 'loagy' | 12:39 |
h3sp4wn | fglrx is poor (I know I use it but on a 9800pro) | 12:40 |
kOpter | rjb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats | 12:40 |
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rjb | kOpter i know that | 12:40 |
kOpter | rjb: Then what's the problem? | 12:40 |
rjb | i had it working fine in breezy | 12:40 |
rjb | thye problem is it doesn't work, plain & simple | 12:41 |
kOpter | Did you read the page? | 12:41 |
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kOpter | And the amarok notes? | 12:41 |
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rjb | sure | 12:41 |
kOpter | like: Amarok needs libxine-extracordecs for mp3 support? | 12:41 |
rjb | sure, & i got them | 12:41 |
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nixternal | sudo ng-update add daemon/gdm <-- is that good for kubuntu using initNG? | 12:41 |
kOpter | Ok, so what is not working? | 12:42 |
rjb | mp3 playback in amarok | 12:42 |
kOpter | Selected the Xine engine in the config panel? | 12:42 |
nixternal | sudo ng-update add daemon/kdm <-- or that | 12:42 |
rjb | refused to load | 12:42 |
rjb | & reverted to the arts engine | 12:42 |
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kOpter | Selected the Xine engine in the config panel? | 12:43 |
rjb | see above | 12:43 |
kOpter | You can't load the Xine engine? | 12:43 |
rjb | the xine engine refuses to load | 12:43 |
kOpter | Thats weird | 12:43 |
rjb | shit if it weren't i wouldn't be asking here :P | 12:43 |
rjb | would i do better to purge all the old gstreamer-0.8 packages, say? | 12:44 |
nixternal | is cpu frequency scaling really needed in initNG for an athlon xp? | 12:44 |
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kOpter | Xine has nothing to do with gestreamer | 12:45 |
rjb | so i thought | 12:45 |
rjb | but wtf do i know | 12:45 |
kOpter | Tried reinstalling the Xine libs? | 12:46 |
nixternal | ok...initNG done...wish me luck as i reboot | 12:46 |
nixternal | muhahaha | 12:46 |
rjb | no, but tried an upgrade to the beta amarok | 12:47 |
rjb | didn't work either | 12:47 |
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rjb | the 1.4 announced on kubuntu's front page | 12:47 |
rjb | now i do have the xine engine enabled | 12:48 |
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rjb | arts engine not available anymore though | 12:48 |
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rjb | but mp3's aren't played anyway | 12:49 |
kOpter | weird stuff.. I'm afraid I can't help you there | 12:49 |
bubblenut | Hi, I've just upgraded to dapper and my wireless card (eth1) is no longer visible | 12:49 |
rjb | heh it just rescanned my collection & all mp3's vanished from it | 12:49 |
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bubblenut | when I run sudo ifup eth1=home I get the following error | 12:49 |
rjb | seems not to recognize the format at all | 12:50 |
kOpter | Is your DB running? | 12:50 |
rjb | what DB? | 12:50 |
kOpter | Amarok Database | 12:50 |
rjb | amarok uses sqlite afaik | 12:50 |
bubblenut | http://pastebin.com/725612 | 12:51 |
kOpter | Yeah, but it doesn't like old databases | 12:51 |
bubblenut | Anyone got any areas on where I should start looking? | 12:51 |
EvilIdler | bubblenut: Try eth2? | 12:51 |
rjb | so what, on a rescan it would rebuild it, right? | 12:51 |
EvilIdler | bubblenut: Or perhaps it's athX | 12:51 |
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nixternal | well.... | 12:51 |
nixternal | initNG sure does boot fast...but my net settings are borked | 12:51 |
kOpter | rjb: Deleting it will | 12:51 |
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crazy_penguin | bye all. good night and pleasent dreams. | 12:52 |
bubblenut | Evil|dler, these don't work either, how can I find out which I should be using? | 12:52 |
rjb | bingo | 12:52 |
rjb | it was a DB issue | 12:52 |
bubblenut | Is it just a matter of trial and error? | 12:52 |
EvilIdler | nixternal: I've got sysvinit booting fast here. How slow was the old one for you? | 12:52 |
rjb | or collection issue | 12:53 |
nixternal | very slow | 12:53 |
nixternal | it boots whicked fast now...but my net settings are hosed | 12:53 |
nixternal | i can't activate eth0 | 12:53 |
nixternal | no ifconfig | 12:53 |
rjb | when i load a file from the Files tab instead of the collection, it works | 12:53 |
EvilIdler | bubblenut: I have a server with two NICs, and upon install, I had eth0 for the gigabit and eth1 for the other. Then suddenly it was eth1 and eth2, and eth0 didn't exist ever again. | 12:53 |
nixternal | stupid wiki said to remove ifupdown-debain and use NetworkSettings | 12:53 |
rjb | kOpter: thx for the hint :) | 12:53 |
klerfayt | why you need to boot fast? | 12:53 |
EvilIdler | I boot in seconds, but it's not something I need very often. | 12:54 |
kOpter | rjb your collection is broken.. remove it | 12:55 |
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bubblenut | hmm, is there some command I can run to display what network devices my machine thinks are available? | 12:55 |
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spire | It seems that the konqueror "Go" menu is disabled. How do I find the autostart pseudo folder then? -I need to make some apps start automatically upon login | 12:56 |
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r1ch1e | whoa...this things boots way to fast and reboots even faster | 12:56 |
r1ch1e | oh now its really borked | 12:57 |
NotWired | borked? | 12:57 |
r1ch1e | screwed up big time | 12:57 |
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kOpter | broken :) | 12:57 |
NotWired | lol | 12:57 |
NotWired | oh | 12:57 |
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nixternal`v2 | my loard | 12:57 |
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kOpter | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borked | 12:58 |
kOpter | Internet slang, corruption of broken; Completely and utterly broken. c.f. fubar | 12:58 |
NotWired | fubar i understand! :-) | 12:59 |
nixternal`v2 | Internet slang, corruption of broken; Completely and utterly broken. c.f. fubar | 12:59 |
nixternal`v2 | exactly how i meant it ;D | 12:59 |
kOpter | Wikipedia to the rescue | 12:59 |
nixternal`v2 | haha | 12:59 |
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EvilIdler | Vista specs are out. It's official: NVidia and Ati are going to make a fortune. | 01:00 |
EvilIdler | I should try Xgl one of these days.. | 01:01 |
EvilIdler | 40GB harddrive as a requirement for the OS. Whee. | 01:01 |
NotWired | ouch | 01:02 |
nixternal`v2 | i am switching back to the slow, but guaranteed to work init | 01:02 |
nixternal`v2 | holy cow that was bad | 01:02 |
EvilIdler | Also 1GB memory minimum. I can understand that for games and servers, but not a desktop OS | 01:02 |
NotWired | and i'vd got kubuntu running very well from a 6GB partition | 01:02 |
EvilIdler | Yeah, I retired my ancient 8GB IBM HD a few months ago, only because it was starting to smell | 01:03 |
NotWired | lol | 01:03 |
EvilIdler | It had started to smell like a garage | 01:03 |
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bubblenut | how strange, I did another reboot and it's all fine now | 01:05 |
Bilford | 40 gb ? wtf | 01:05 |
Bilford | why do you need 40 gb | 01:05 |
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NotWired | bloatware | 01:05 |
EvilIdler | 40GB drive with 15GB free space. That implies Vista eats 25GB | 01:05 |
Bilford | wow | 01:05 |
EvilIdler | I just can't believe an OS that comes with next to NO useful applications can eat that much drivespace | 01:05 |
nixternal`v2 | go freenode go | 01:05 |
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nixternal`v2 | that is 2 reboots now | 01:06 |
EvilIdler | No devkit, no textprocessing beyond notepad and write | 01:06 |
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Bilford | thats about 18,000 floppies | 01:06 |
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Bilford | Windows 3.11 came on about 10 floppies | 01:07 |
EvilIdler | Several of them being optional :) | 01:07 |
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Bilford | lol | 01:07 |
NotWired | that didn't make it any better | 01:07 |
EvilIdler | Less worse, perhaps | 01:07 |
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nixternal`v2 | when is the other one gonna time out already | 01:08 |
nixternal`v2 | note to self....damn...keyboard is broke...can't leave a note to self....ctrl+alt+del | 01:08 |
EvilIdler | I use irc.debian.org and get connected to a random author-named server. IRC roulette :) | 01:09 |
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nixternal`v2 | well...chalk it down for my first initNG experience as...NOT GOOD | 01:09 |
nixternal`v2 | i will mess with it later...when i have nothing else better to do | 01:09 |
nixternal`v2 | it did boot...and it booted fast...but net was gone and then the 2nd boot...everything was huge | 01:10 |
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nixternal`v2 | im next | 01:10 |
EvilIdler | I tried InitNG once. Packages got messed up, and I had nothing to boot my system. | 01:10 |
nixternal`v2 | i can feel it | 01:11 |
nixternal`v2 | well..i added it to my grub menu...so i was safe | 01:11 |
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EvilIdler | I had no init program afterwards. Had to set bash as my init. | 01:11 |
nixternal`v2 | oooh | 01:11 |
nixternal`v2 | that sux | 01:11 |
EvilIdler | Thank goodness for componentised OSes :) | 01:12 |
nixternal`v2 | haha ya | 01:12 |
EvilIdler | Take a working shell here, a working, static mount command+editor there, fix the problems | 01:12 |
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nixternal`v2 | yes...that is lovely...cuz that is what just fixed my entire issue | 01:12 |
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nixternal`v2 | when it booted the 2nd time....everything was so huge, that only the top left portion of the screen normally was visible...and you couldn't get to anywhere else | 01:13 |
nixternal`v2 | booted into term...and wallah...it's fixed | 01:13 |
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bubblenut | I'm having a problem with fuse now | 01:16 |
Bilford | Microsoft's reign is coming to a swift end | 01:16 |
bubblenut | If I try to mount a drive with sshfs I get the following error | 01:16 |
Bilford | people are going to switch to Kubuntu | 01:17 |
bubblenut | fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory | 01:17 |
xwolf-- | i'm having a problem here... cant connect to www.names.something, but can do with their IPs... seems to be a dns problem on breezy livecd, how do i fix that | 01:17 |
bubblenut | Anyone got any ideas about this? I've tried re-installing libfuse2 and sshfs | 01:17 |
nixternal | w00t...gparted has a livecd now...better than partition magic...oh that so rox | 01:17 |
xwolf-- | i already did 'sudo route add default gw 192.168.254.254' and can reach the router... but cant connect | 01:17 |
h3sp4wn | bubblenut: do you not use shfs ? did you have to build it initially using module assistant ? | 01:18 |
nixternal | http://static.flickr.com/51/147862379_89d4dce2ec.jpg?v=0 <-- damn you simon...looks like you guys are having way to much fun at debconf | 01:21 |
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nixternal | hmm | 01:31 |
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c0llin | is there a way to disable Bell in Konsole? | 01:33 |
nixternal | good question...cuz i want to do the same thing now that you said something | 01:34 |
nixternal | yup | 01:34 |
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joscha | c0llin: settings - signal | 01:34 |
nixternal | right click in konsole > settings > bell > none | 01:34 |
c0llin | is there a way to keep it off so it doesnt start up next time? | 01:35 |
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nixternal | http://www.turnto10.com/news/9237767/detail.html <-- think you have a problem | 01:37 |
nixternal | dude left behind 70,000 beer cans | 01:37 |
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wasp_ems | i downloaded quake 4 how do i install it? | 01:38 |
NotWired | lol nixternal | 01:39 |
NotWired | beeeeeeeeer | 01:39 |
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nixternal | hahah | 01:39 |
nixternal | that is nuts | 01:39 |
NotWired | hey, he said he now has a job and no longer drinks | 01:39 |
nixternal | ya...and he no longer has a liver | 01:40 |
nixternal | lol | 01:40 |
NotWired | question is, would you clean up those cans for the $800 recycle fee | 01:40 |
nixternal | probably | 01:41 |
nixternal | that is another kubuntu machine ;D | 01:41 |
NotWired | must of taken a bunch of trips | 01:41 |
NotWired | lol | 01:41 |
wasp_ems | konqueror crashed and i got an error of signal 6..backtrace does not work as it says the debugger was not found..any ideas? | 01:41 |
nixternal | signal 6 ey. | 01:42 |
nixternal | hmmm | 01:42 |
h3sp4wn | read the post on ubuntu forums about building packages with debug symbols | 01:42 |
wasp_ems | other times i get signal 11 | 01:42 |
nixternal | signal 11 i have seen b4 | 01:42 |
nixternal | 6 is new to me | 01:42 |
wasp_ems | and why is debugger gdb not found? | 01:42 |
nixternal | cuz gdb isnt' installed | 01:43 |
wasp_ems | ok | 01:43 |
wasp_ems | so how do i install it..so we can see why i am getting these signals | 01:43 |
nixternal | have you tried to reinstall it through synaptic or adept? | 01:43 |
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wasp_ems | reinstall what? | 01:43 |
nixternal | sounds almost like some required files weren't installed along with it | 01:43 |
nixternal | konqueror | 01:44 |
NotWired | sudo apt-get install gdb? | 01:44 |
nixternal | i had the same issue on breezy...and a reinstall fixed it...i think i had some lib files get hung up and not install correctly | 01:44 |
wasp_ems | so should i remove and then re install konqueror? | 01:44 |
nixternal | you can always try it....at least install gdb to get more info on it | 01:45 |
wasp_ems | ok thanx | 01:45 |
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wasp_ems | any ideas about installing quake? | 01:45 |
nixternal | oh wow...q4? | 01:45 |
wasp_ems | the demo | 01:46 |
nixternal | there are a ton of q1, q2, and q3 how-tos out there...but i dunno about q4 | 01:46 |
wasp_ems | i have the full game for windows though | 01:46 |
wasp_ems | in general how do u install a file or program? | 01:46 |
nixternal | http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4 | 01:46 |
wasp_ems | thanx | 01:47 |
nixternal | np | 01:47 |
Bilford | do Windows games run faster in Cedega than they do in Windows | 01:48 |
NotWired | what is cedega? wine type thing? | 01:49 |
Bilford | yes, for games | 01:49 |
NotWired | i doubt it then | 01:49 |
Bilford | runs pretty much every game there is | 01:49 |
wasp_ems | what is cedega? | 01:49 |
Bilford | WineX | 01:50 |
wasp_ems | ok | 01:50 |
Bilford | http://www.transgaming.com/products_linux.php | 01:50 |
NotWired | gotta be extra overhead there so i can't see anything running faster... maybe close on some though | 01:50 |
Bilford | but it costs money | 01:50 |
NotWired | people sell lots of slow software :-) | 01:51 |
nixternal | <NotWired> people sell lots of slow software :-) | 01:51 |
nixternal | LOL | 01:51 |
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nixternal | Microsoft for one | 01:52 |
NotWired | that one does come to mind | 01:52 |
nixternal | i have never installed nor used Wine | 01:52 |
NotWired | i have in the early days... but it's been years now | 01:52 |
nixternal | the only thing i use windows for...autocad | 01:52 |
Bilford | Windows is extra overhead | 01:52 |
nixternal | that is it | 01:52 |
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NotWired | i plan on trying it for my tax software next year | 01:53 |
nixternal | im not a coder... | 01:53 |
nixternal | well...i just use irs.gov..they have a spot where you can file online | 01:53 |
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NotWired | i'm in canuckland | 01:54 |
NotWired | none of the commercial guys have linux versions | 01:54 |
Bilford | well | 01:54 |
NotWired | other than that, i can pretty much anything i want in linux | 01:54 |
Bilford | most of them have online versions | 01:54 |
nixternal | haha | 01:54 |
Bilford | I did mine online | 01:54 |
Bilford | TurboTax | 01:54 |
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nixternal | my dad swears by turbotax | 01:54 |
Bilford | online? | 01:55 |
nixternal | yup | 01:55 |
nixternal | he loves it | 01:55 |
Bilford | he mustve gotten a refund | 01:55 |
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NotWired | does it use java or straight webbrowser forms? | 01:55 |
nixternal | i have used turbo tax since about 98 | 01:55 |
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nixternal | prior to them i used one by kiplingers | 01:55 |
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Bilford | I think Ajax now. I dont know though | 01:55 |
nixternal | i filed my first online return in 1996 | 01:56 |
nixternal | i was in the military then | 01:56 |
NotWired | i do them on pc but still print and mail | 01:56 |
NotWired | especially if i owe them | 01:56 |
nixternal | haha ya | 01:56 |
nixternal | me too | 01:56 |
Bilford | why | 01:56 |
NotWired | bad enough if i i gotta pay, make them work for my $$$ | 01:56 |
nixternal | actually i haven't owed the irs anything... | 01:56 |
nixternal | lol | 01:56 |
Bilford | more work for you though | 01:57 |
NotWired | nah, i fill in online and print | 01:57 |
NotWired | just a little more than e-file | 01:57 |
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wasp_ems | do u know how i can setup k3b so i can use files from my network? | 02:04 |
Bilford | ... | 02:04 |
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steve | Anybody know when about a pre-built WINE 0.9.13 will be available? | 02:12 |
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sorcre | Hello, has anyone gotten 3D acceleration working on Dapper (with an Nvidia card)? | 02:14 |
h3sp4wn | sorcre: Have you just dist-upgraded ? | 02:17 |
sorcre | h3sp4wn: I actually installed Ubuntu (installed kubundu desktop later) | 02:17 |
sorcre | h3sp4wn: Whenever I install the driver it screws up X for me | 02:18 |
h3sp4wn | sorcre: Have you just done apt-get dist-upgrade or used synaptic or something similar ? | 02:18 |
sorcre | h3sp4wn: Yea, I've done that. | 02:19 |
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h3sp4wn | sorcre: run uname -a (from a terminal) | 02:19 |
sorcre | Linux Wii 2.6.15-22-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 7 17:27:47 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux | 02:20 |
wasp_ems | how can i change my font color on the konsole? | 02:21 |
h3sp4wn | sorcre: There is no reason why it shouldn't work with that kernel that I know of (2.6.15-23-k7 has no restricted modules yet) | 02:21 |
wasp_ems | i have made it transparent but i cannot see what it says | 02:21 |
wasp_ems | i cannot find where u change it from | 02:21 |
sorcre | h3sp4wn: I tried with different kernels as well... I have no idea why it's not working... I'm going to try again. Should I use apt? | 02:21 |
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h3sp4wn | sorcre: Have you followed the nvidia wiki ? | 02:23 |
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sorcre | h3sp4wn: Yes, I've tried both ways (apt and installing it from Nvidia's site) | 02:23 |
h3sp4wn | sorcre: You are best off using apt (Unless you have a specific card that is not supported by the drivers in apt) | 02:24 |
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wasp_ems | how can i install a binary? | 02:24 |
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wasp_ems | i downloaded my graphc card driver | 02:25 |
sorcre | g3sp4wn: Alright, I'll try it. Thanks | 02:25 |
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h3sp4wn | sorcre: Can you think of anything non standard about your setup (tv connected etc) | 02:26 |
mardi | whats the command to see the version of kubuntu i'm running? | 02:26 |
wasp_ems | anyone want to help me? | 02:26 |
klerfayt | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDefaultSettings - "desktop icons 32" is contradicting with "Icon size: 64" | 02:27 |
h3sp4wn | mardi: cat /etc/lsb-release | 02:27 |
klerfayt | oh sorry my mistake | 02:28 |
mardi | h3sp4wn: sweet, thanks | 02:28 |
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Bilford | Kwin crashed again | 02:31 |
Bilford | what are the most common things that cause that | 02:32 |
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Andruk | if i install kubuntu alongside XP and Debian Sarge, will Grub be able to pick it all up? | 02:44 |
Bilford | Grub picks up Windows | 02:44 |
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Andruk | what aboot debian? | 02:45 |
Bilford | I dont know | 02:46 |
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Andruk | cool, thc | 02:48 |
Andruk | *thx | 02:48 |
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Ahmuck | plone does not work | 03:02 |
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wasp_ems | is it normal to have 83 processes running? | 03:46 |
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ahmeni | could be, if your system is set up that way | 03:48 |
wasp_ems | k\ | 03:49 |
ahmeni | do a ps aux if you think something is wrong | 03:49 |
wasp_ems | what is that? | 03:49 |
bimberi | wasp_ems: yep, i have 91 running (ps ax | wc) | 03:49 |
wasp_ems | i was just wondering if they are all needed..under windows i know the less you have the better it is | 03:50 |
wasp_ems | anyway i am going to bed..good night | 03:50 |
EvilIdler | wasp_ems: If you run ProcessScout or similar in WinXP, you'll see 800+ processes :) | 03:51 |
wasp_ems | lol | 03:51 |
EvilIdler | ps shows number of processes, and programs can have more than one | 03:51 |
wasp_ems | ok | 03:51 |
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wasp_ems | do u know how i can change the color of my fonts in the konsole? | 03:57 |
wasp_ems | i made it transparent but i cannot seem to find how to change their color | 03:58 |
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EvilIdler | Dunno. I prefer plain, old xterm. | 03:59 |
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soundmaster80 | i cannot install the linux-restricted-modules-386 | 04:23 |
soundmaster80 | any suggestions | 04:23 |
soundmaster80 | i think it is telling me they are broken | 04:23 |
wchogg | Which kernel version is it not installing? | 04:24 |
soundmaster80 | i don't know | 04:24 |
soundmaster80 | when i try to update i get "the following packages have been held back" ..-386 | 04:25 |
wchogg | If you look in adept it should list the packages according to which kernel versions they're for, then you can see which one is marked as "upgradeable". | 04:25 |
soundmaster80 | lol...well if i had x server i would :) | 04:26 |
soundmaster80 | i have an old nvidia tnt2 card | 04:26 |
soundmaster80 | i installed the legacy driver | 04:26 |
soundmaster80 | last night it all worked fine | 04:27 |
wchogg | Well I can say that I found that 2.6.15.21 will install, but more recent ones don't work. So if you use that kernel version everything should work. | 04:27 |
soundmaster80 | ah | 04:28 |
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soundmaster80 | how do i show the kernel i'm using? | 04:29 |
macd | uname -a | 04:29 |
soundmaster80 | 2.6.15-23-386 | 04:29 |
soundmaster80 | brb | 04:29 |
wchogg | Ah! That's the one that didn't work for me this morning. | 04:30 |
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soundmaster80 | oh | 04:31 |
soundmaster80 | so you have tried this as well today? | 04:31 |
wchogg | Yup. I moved from Gentoo to Kubuntu Dapper Flight 7 this morning. | 04:31 |
soundmaster80 | hmm...it's their problem then i assume? | 04:32 |
wchogg | I used kernel version 2.6.15-21 instead and everything is working. | 04:32 |
soundmaster80 | ok, yeah checking their ubuntu+1 site they show this | 04:33 |
soundmaster80 | brb again :) | 04:33 |
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dapper | hellow everyone | 04:54 |
segfault | hi | 04:54 |
segfault | a question | 04:54 |
segfault | how can i remove adeptmanager from the startup ? | 04:54 |
segfault | im old-school (apt via konsole) | 04:54 |
robotgeek | segfault: you mean the notifier? | 04:55 |
segfault | thats :D | 04:55 |
segfault | (btw sorry my english) | 04:55 |
robotgeek | segfault: right click, and exit it. it should ask you whether you want to reload it on startup | 04:56 |
segfault | so easy? XD my fault then | 04:56 |
segfault | thanks | 04:56 |
dapper | is there a way to change what starts with a new session? | 04:56 |
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robotgeek | dapper: there is a section on it in the Desktop Guide, Help -> Desktop Guide | 04:57 |
jabber522 | in the kubuntu desktop guide? | 04:57 |
robotgeek | yeah, for dapper | 04:57 |
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jabber522 | sorry i have all the derivatives installed here hehe | 04:57 |
jabber522 | i'm really loving kubuntu right now, the breezy one was very buggy for me | 04:57 |
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DaSkreech | can I get some help with Konversation | 05:06 |
macd | DaSkreech: ask | 05:06 |
DaSkreech | How do I save My password to auth on Freenode? | 05:07 |
segfault | in settings | 05:07 |
segfault | identities | 05:07 |
DaSkreech | Right | 05:07 |
segfault | Auto Indentify | 05:07 |
segfault | nickserv and your password | 05:07 |
DaSkreech | nickserv is service? | 05:08 |
segfault | yup | 05:08 |
DaSkreech | Great thanks | 05:08 |
segfault | y.w | 05:09 |
DaSkreech | Now to apt-get dist-upgrade to KDE4 :) | 05:09 |
segfault | ah! :s | 05:11 |
segfault | you fuc**ing kidding me :S | 05:11 |
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segfault | how can i use the old kcontrol? instead of system preferences? | 05:13 |
tim | I am trying to check my mail with Kontact! | 05:14 |
DaSkreech | segfault: System-KControl | 05:14 |
segfault | not show | 05:14 |
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gil | hello? | 05:15 |
DaSkreech | segfault: Alt+Space Kcontrol? | 05:15 |
macd | segfault: right click, run command --kcontrol | 05:15 |
segfault | mm | 05:15 |
segfault | another solution S | 05:15 |
gil | can someone tell me how to put kubuntu on suspend mode automatically | 05:15 |
tim | And it says "Could not connect to host localhost." | 05:16 |
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ajayc | hi guys | 05:41 |
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ajayc | which should i download livecd or install cd? | 05:41 |
mardi | anyone familiar with installing ati drivers? | 05:42 |
robotgeek | ajayc: you can check via the live cd, and install usinf it | 05:42 |
robotgeek | !ati | 05:42 |
ubotu | ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589 | 05:42 |
ajayc | robotgeek: is there the installer by default there in the livecd? | 05:43 |
robotgeek | ajayc: yes, if you talking about dapper | 05:43 |
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ajayc | robotgeek: is that good? | 05:44 |
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robotgeek | ajayc: not released yet, but works pretty well | 05:45 |
ajayc | should i use kubuntu or xubuntu? :P | 05:46 |
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robotgeek | ajayc: how much cpu/ram | 05:47 |
ajayc | 256 DDR2 ram and Pentium M 740 | 05:47 |
Bilford | 740 ghz? | 05:47 |
ajayc | nah | 05:48 |
ajayc | 1.7 Ghz | 05:48 |
Bilford | oh | 05:48 |
robotgeek | ajayc: kubuntu will run very well. | 05:48 |
DaSkreech | How much memory? | 05:48 |
ajayc | 256 ddr2 | 05:49 |
segfault | how can i change kmenu icons size? | 05:49 |
segfault | the icons in the menu | 05:49 |
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ajayc | btw why is kubuntu considered better than ubuntu? | 05:50 |
DaSkreech | It's Kool? | 05:50 |
robotgeek | segfault, use alt + f2, type "kcontrol" in the text box, and hit the <enter> key | 05:50 |
DaSkreech | robotgeek: We are still on that? | 05:51 |
robotgeek | then go to apperance, and change from there (maybe menu is not possible) | 05:51 |
segfault | no, its not possible from there | 05:51 |
robotgeek | DaSkreech: too lazy to type systemsettings, i hav kcontrol stuff loaded in my irssi | 05:51 |
segfault | thanks vtw | 05:51 |
segfault | i like kcontrol instead of systempreferences | 05:52 |
DaSkreech | segfault: From the advanced tab? | 05:52 |
segfault | yup | 05:52 |
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ajayc | its kool how? | 05:53 |
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robotgeek | ajayc: i find that all the apps are better integrated. | 05:54 |
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Bilford | any file renaming experts here? | 05:57 |
Bilford | how do you replace the first instance of a string in a filename using KRenam | 05:57 |
Bilford | only the first instance | 05:57 |
Bilford | for exmaple This.is.a.test.file.mp3' | 05:58 |
robotgeek | Bilford: example | 05:58 |
Bilford | I only want to replace the first . | 05:58 |
Bilford | so I get This is.a.test.file.mp3 | 05:58 |
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robotgeek | Bilford: hmm, not sure | 05:59 |
Bilford | ok | 05:59 |
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Bilford | Windows is giving me 6 days to enter my activation code on my laptop | 06:03 |
Bilford | gee, what should I do | 06:03 |
DaSkreech | *kough* Kubuntu *kough koff* | 06:03 |
Bilford | lol | 06:03 |
DaSkreech | I really should see a doktor for that | 06:04 |
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EvilIdler | Increase battery life - install Kubuntu :) | 06:04 |
Bilford | really? | 06:04 |
Bilford | does Kubuntu use less resources than Windows | 06:04 |
DaSkreech | Yeah | 06:04 |
Bilford | and run faster? | 06:04 |
Bilford | ok | 06:04 |
DaSkreech | It kan however use a lot more if you get krazy | 06:04 |
DaSkreech | thats oc | 06:04 |
DaSkreech | Wait... | 06:04 |
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EvilIdler | Tests show that Linux gives your CPU a rest like it should. Windows wastes resources. | 06:05 |
EvilIdler | Some laptops got twice as much time between recharges :) | 06:06 |
Bilford | cool | 06:06 |
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DaSkreech | Ok what should happen if I install a icon theme and click apply? | 06:07 |
EvilIdler | It's not about running faster, but about using those 'rest-instructions' modern processors have | 06:07 |
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nixternal`v2 | .. | 06:25 |
_s3B4s_ | hello.... | 06:26 |
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nixternal`v2 | hehe | 06:26 |
nixternal`v2 | i thought i went down | 06:26 |
_s3B4s_ | somebody have already installed the LP on Kubuntu Dapper? | 06:27 |
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nixternal`v2 | what is the LP? | 06:27 |
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GullyFoyle | nixternal`v2: i still cant get my mic to work | 06:28 |
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_s3B4s_ | the printer sistem | 06:28 |
_s3B4s_ | system | 06:28 |
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_s3B4s_ | is a system default printer | 06:28 |
nixternal`v2 | lpd | 06:28 |
nixternal`v2 | i use cups | 06:28 |
_s3B4s_ | ahh ok | 06:29 |
nixternal`v2 | i haven't used lpd since um...1996 i would have to say | 06:29 |
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_s3B4s_ | but, some programs need the commands | 06:29 |
_s3B4s_ | to prints flies | 06:29 |
_s3B4s_ | how do you do then? | 06:29 |
nixternal`v2 | the print daemon is there.... | 06:29 |
nixternal`v2 | i set my printer up this way | 06:29 |
nixternal`v2 | k menu > system settings > printing | 06:30 |
nixternal`v2 | in there i added my printers using the CUPS print system | 06:30 |
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nixternal`v2 | HP PSC 1610 Mutli-function | 06:30 |
_s3B4s_ | yes thats ok | 06:30 |
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_s3B4s_ | but how do you print files from a terminal | 06:31 |
_s3B4s_ | for exemple | 06:31 |
nixternal`v2 | oh oh | 06:31 |
nixternal`v2 | i know where you are going now | 06:31 |
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nixternal`v2 | you are goin' old' schoool...i like your thought | 06:31 |
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nixternal`v2 | i would use lpd | 06:31 |
_s3B4s_ | ahh | 06:31 |
_s3B4s_ | ok, i'm having problems to install it | 06:32 |
_s3B4s_ | with de apt | 06:32 |
_s3B4s_ | the apt | 06:32 |
_s3B4s_ | =P | 06:32 |
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DaSkreech | Is there a GUI way to edit Fstab? | 06:32 |
nixternal`v2 | my printing was installed from the get go... | 06:33 |
_s3B4s_ | ahh ok | 06:34 |
_s3B4s_ | kate /etc/fstab | 06:34 |
_s3B4s_ | xD | 06:34 |
DaSkreech | :-) | 06:34 |
_s3B4s_ | joke | 06:34 |
DaSkreech | System settings started complaing about a new line in the Fstab | 06:34 |
nixternal`v2 | i set my printer up with cups...and when i am in term i can just past print i believe...but i haven't had to do so..so i am not 100% positive | 06:35 |
nixternal`v2 | that would be sudo kata /etc/fstab ;D | 06:35 |
nixternal`v2 | kate | 06:35 |
nixternal`v2 | not kata ;D | 06:35 |
_s3B4s_ | hehehe | 06:35 |
_s3B4s_ | xD | 06:35 |
nixternal`v2 | or gedit | 06:35 |
_s3B4s_ | xD | 06:35 |
nixternal`v2 | gah | 06:35 |
nixternal`v2 | kedit | 06:35 |
nixternal`v2 | ;D | 06:35 |
nixternal`v2 | no g...bad g | 06:35 |
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_s3B4s_ | hahaha | 06:36 |
mardi | what's everyones fav bit torrent client? | 06:36 |
nixternal`v2 | i just use ktorrent | 06:37 |
nixternal`v2 | but truth be told.... utorrent (micro torrent) for windows is the best | 06:37 |
nixternal`v2 | ktorrent is about as close to utorrent i have seen | 06:37 |
mardi | looking now :) | 06:38 |
nixternal`v2 | sudo apt-get install ktorrent will get it to ya the quickest | 06:38 |
_s3B4s_ | :P | 06:39 |
nixternal`v2 | sudo apt-get install a_new_life_please | 06:39 |
_s3B4s_ | hahahha | 06:39 |
_s3B4s_ | man life | 06:39 |
_s3B4s_ | ;) | 06:39 |
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_s3B4s_ | xD | 06:39 |
nixternal`v2 | hehe | 06:40 |
Bilford | you need to uninstall all your old dependencies | 06:40 |
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ubuntu | hi | 06:41 |
Bilford | fresh install is best | 06:41 |
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nixternal`v2 | LOL | 06:41 |
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dfour | Hi all | 06:41 |
ngh55 | again,hi lol | 06:41 |
nixternal`v2 | well hello good sir | 06:41 |
ngh55 | ok, im going to shoot, how can I tell kubuntu to add more resolutions_ im stuck till 1024*768 in a 19in monitor | 06:42 |
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dfour | ngh55: have you choosen a 19 monitor in thice neet X-Server config thing? :D | 06:43 |
ngh55 | im using livecd :P | 06:43 |
ngh55 | didnt asked | 06:43 |
dfour | dapper haven't made it to recognize my ati xt850 -.- | 06:44 |
dfour | had to change this in xorg.conf | 06:44 |
dfour | so mhhh .. i m new to kubuntu | 06:44 |
ngh55 | what u changed in xorg? | 06:45 |
dfour | the driver line ... in device section | 06:45 |
ngh55 | oh | 06:45 |
dfour | ngh55: but you should try to go to system setting->Display | 06:45 |
dfour | and there choose another monitor | 06:45 |
ngh55 | will that be the place for screen resolutions too? | 06:45 |
ngh55 | ok, going to | 06:45 |
dfour | at hardware | 06:45 |
dfour | xorg.conf is the main config file for everything which deals with the X-server | 06:46 |
dfour | but its way oldschool to deal with this by hand | 06:46 |
_s3B4s_ | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 06:46 |
ngh55 | I see | 06:46 |
nixternal`v2 | i see the kubuntu forums are hosed | 06:47 |
nixternal`v2 | i cant' even log in | 06:47 |
macd | nixternal`v2: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php | 06:48 |
nixternal`v2 | hah...that is awesome...i can't log in with ie...but firefox works...kubuntu rox | 06:48 |
ngh55 | ok, apparently I have to logg off | 06:48 |
macd | yeah? I logged in fine. | 06:48 |
dfour | ngh55: I m not realy knowing why but when I boot up first time the os with a working driver I had a bad resolution and could change it at all ... after switch driver again everything worked fin | 06:48 |
ngh55 | I see, thnx, going to log off now, brb | 06:49 |
ngh55 | what this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do? | 06:49 |
macd | reconfigures xorg server. | 06:50 |
GullyFoyle | how long till i can apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper? | 06:52 |
GullyFoyle | coupla weeks? | 06:52 |
Bilford | now | 06:53 |
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Starzend | I need to partition and format a hard drive. what kde tools are available to do so? | 07:01 |
DaSkreech | Anyone use qtparted? | 07:01 |
DaSkreech | Dang it :) | 07:01 |
DaSkreech | qtparted :) | 07:01 |
regeya | qtparted, aye. lovely program. though the kde partitioning tool requirement leaves me at a loss...heh | 07:02 |
DaSkreech | regeya: Hmm? | 07:04 |
regeya | well, it would be as if I said, lo, bringeth me a MFC-based disk format utility. | 07:05 |
regeya | but whatever :-) | 07:05 |
Starzend | thanks for that. | 07:07 |
c0llin | does newsmangler work with kubuntu? | 07:07 |
dfour | has anyone a idear how to install kubuntu on a laptop without a optical drive? | 07:07 |
Starzend | how do I go about installing alsa-driver in kubuntu, as I cant compile whatever it was I downloaded from their web site? | 07:08 |
dfour | it was PITA to install gentoo once ... and I m kind of intressted to install kubuntu on it know | 07:08 |
ahmeni | dfour: what OS does it currently have? | 07:08 |
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dfour | ahmeni: gentoo | 07:08 |
dfour | ergo linux | 07:08 |
frank_ | anyone running kubuntu dapper have the sun java plugin working in konqueror? the plugin works in firefox but not konqueror even after I do a scan for new plugins in konqueror | 07:09 |
ahmeni | hrm.. Apparently you can do it with debian-bootstrap, but your mileage may very | 07:09 |
DaSkreech | Starzend: Why do you need Alsa? | 07:09 |
Starzend | I have no sound, that appears to be one way to get it running. | 07:10 |
dfour | ahmeni: isn't there something like a TFTP installer or something? | 07:10 |
Starzend | I could be wrong. | 07:10 |
ahmeni | dfour: not that I've found. I'd kill for kubuntu-stage3.tar.bz2 | 07:10 |
macd | frank_: make sure your plugin directories are correct and coresponf with the actual location of the sun java jre. | 07:11 |
c0llin | binary grabber for usenet? | 07:12 |
ahmeni | dfour: you could do a test-run with debian bootstrap and a chroot | 07:12 |
frank_ | macd: I did /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so and konqueror is supposed to look there | 07:13 |
DaSkreech | Starzend: try xine | 07:13 |
macd | Ive mine installed somewhere else but that should work yes. | 07:13 |
Starzend | I have xine installed and functional. | 07:14 |
dfour | ahmeni: thx I ll give it a try | 07:14 |
Starzend | everything APPEARS to be playing correctly, I just dont hear anything. | 07:14 |
DaSkreech | hardware? | 07:14 |
Starzend | CD sound, video sound (dvds play nicely, execpt for the fact they are silent) | 07:14 |
DaSkreech | Check the cables? :) | 07:15 |
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Starzend | Intel onboard HD-sound controller. | 07:15 |
Starzend | works in windows. | 07:15 |
DaSkreech | How do I locate a file? | 07:15 |
Starzend | find? | 07:15 |
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frank_ | macd: it points to /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so what version of java do you have | 07:15 |
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frank_ | DaSkreech: locate filename | 07:15 |
ahmeni | DaSkreech: use find -iname 'blah', or locate blah after running updatedb | 07:15 |
macd | frank_ : ~home/jre1.5.0_06/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so | 07:16 |
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macd | thats b/c I only wish my user to have java | 07:17 |
frank_ | macd: ok | 07:17 |
DaSkreech | frank_ ahmeni: Can I set where locate checks for files? | 07:20 |
frank_ | DaSkreech: yes. but I forget where. | 07:20 |
ahmeni | locate checks almost everywhere by default | 07:20 |
ahmeni | check /etc/locatedb.conf to see where it doesn't | 07:20 |
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frank_ | DaSkreech: /etc/updatedb.conf | 07:21 |
DaSkreech | Ah Cool | 07:22 |
ahmeni | ack, yeah, frank_'s right | 07:22 |
Starzend | alsa-base is not the same as alsa-driver, correct? | 07:22 |
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dFour | when I shutdown or restart my Xserver seams to hangup, I m using fgrlx prop driver, have anyone the same problem? | 07:28 |
DaSkreech | frank_: Thanks | 07:29 |
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thebanana | what is the recommended version of automake for building kde from svn? | 07:30 |
thebanana | have there been problems with automake 1.9? | 07:30 |
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DaSkreech | How do I get K3B to convert a MP3? | 07:34 |
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DaSkreech | never mind :) | 07:35 |
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ajayc | guys why cant we play two sounds simulataneously? | 07:41 |
ajayc | from two different players | 07:41 |
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DaSkreech | KDE4 :-) | 07:44 |
ajayc | KDE4? | 07:44 |
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ajayc | whats the relation | 07:44 |
dFour | mhhh is the amarok 1.4a broken? ... our its just linked too KDE4? | 07:45 |
crimsun | dFour: the what? | 07:46 |
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ajayc | someone at least tell me why cant we play two damn sounds simulatenouely? | 07:47 |
crimsun | ajayc: what sound card do you have? | 07:47 |
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ajayc | i got intel 915 default snd card | 07:47 |
ajayc | ich6 i think | 07:47 |
crimsun | that one doesn't perform pcm multiplexing natively | 07:48 |
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crimsun | you're stuck w/ dmix | 07:48 |
ajayc | how to do it? | 07:48 |
crimsun | (which should work by default in Breezy and Dapper, btw) | 07:48 |
ajayc | i thought it was a pretty good snd card | 07:48 |
ajayc | onboard though | 07:49 |
crimsun | no, it's craptacular, actually. | 07:49 |
ajayc | dunno | 07:49 |
ajayc | i got a laptop | 07:49 |
crimsun | (no really, it is bad.) | 07:49 |
dFour | crimsun: I just updated amarok and know it has a problem with linked libary libkdecore.4 | 07:49 |
ajayc | so u cant expect sound blasters natively in laptops | 07:50 |
crimsun | dFour: are you running breezy? | 07:50 |
dFour | crimsun: no dapper flight 7 | 07:50 |
crimsun | ajayc: no, but that's beside the point. What apps are you using? | 07:50 |
crimsun | dFour: you need to be running current Dapper | 07:50 |
crimsun | amarok 1.4 from kubuntu.org runs fine here. | 07:50 |
ajayc | crimsun: i am using vlc :) | 07:51 |
crimsun | ajayc: on breezy or dapper? | 07:51 |
Tonio_ | hey guys, see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/45526 | 07:51 |
Tonio_ | any opinion on this ? | 07:51 |
dFour | crimsun: yeah 1.4 worked but today the updater told me there is 1.4a | 07:51 |
ajayc | dapper | 07:51 |
crimsun | ajayc: is the alsa output selected in the audio preferences? | 07:52 |
crimsun | dFour: eh, I commented out the repo after I installed 1.4, so.. | 07:52 |
ajayc | yeah | 07:52 |
jeff_ | hey guys | 07:53 |
dFour | crimsum: I m new to kubuntu. is there a way to install older packages? | 07:53 |
jeff_ | does anybody know how to get flash working in konqueror on flight 7? | 07:53 |
DaSkreech | dFour: When is amarok 1.4 hitting the repos? | 07:53 |
jeff_ | i got it working earlier today, then upgraded the package and now its not working | 07:54 |
Tonio_ | DaSkreech: uvf exception has to be approved in the first place | 07:54 |
Tonio_ | DaSkreech: and it'll not be an easy trick since we are in a deep freeze mode actually ;) | 07:55 |
jeff_ | it shows in my found plugins but when i try to open a .swf it says that its unable to load the netscape plugin | 07:55 |
jeff_ | any ideas? | 07:55 |
DaSkreech | Tonio_: So ... so .. no Amarok 1.4 for dapper? :-( | 07:55 |
jeff_ | DaSkreech: yeah, ive got amarok 1.4 for dapper | 07:55 |
jeff_ | DaSkreech: you have to add the repo for it though | 07:56 |
Tonio_ | DaSkreech: I didn't say this, but I need to ask Riddell about this | 07:56 |
dFour | DaSkreech: I too .. I got it the early morning .. now the 1.4a isnt working anymore :( | 07:56 |
Tonio_ | jeff_: sure, but I think DaSkreech was talking about integration in main | 07:56 |
jeff_ | Tonio_: hmm? | 07:56 |
jeff_ | Tonio_: integration in main? | 07:56 |
Tonio_ | jeff_: yes | 07:57 |
jeff_ | Tonio_: whats that | 07:57 |
Tonio_ | jeff_: there is a repo for the latest amarok, but the package shiped with the distro is in the main section | 07:57 |
jeff_ | Tonio_: ok | 07:57 |
DaSkreech | Wait | 07:58 |
Tonio_ | DaSkreech: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php | 07:58 |
DaSkreech | That means no Kopete either ? | 07:58 |
DaSkreech | I know I read it | 07:58 |
Tonio_ | you can use this repo to install it | 07:58 |
DaSkreech | I was there when he put it up :) | 07:58 |
DaSkreech | I just thought I'd not be needy this time and wait till it hit the main repos | 07:58 |
jeff_ | so i guess nobody else has flash working in konqueror? | 07:58 |
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frank_ | jeff_: I have it working but it doesn't work well. do a scan for new plugins in the plugins part of konqueror setings | 08:00 |
Tonio_ | jeff_: flash works here | 08:00 |
frank_ | Tonio_: can you see google videos with konqueror? | 08:00 |
Tonio_ | frank_: test url plz ? | 08:01 |
jeff_ | frank_: i did. the plugin shows up under the netscape plugins fine | 08:01 |
frank_ | Tonio_: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3224253477372538278 | 08:01 |
jeff_ | Tonio_: did you do anything other than install the package and scan for the plugin to make it work? | 08:01 |
Tonio_ | jeff_: nope ;) | 08:02 |
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frank_ | Tonio_: does the video work? | 08:02 |
Tonio_ | frank_: yes | 08:02 |
riri | hi nixternal | 08:02 |
frank_ | Tonio_: hmmm.. I get only sound, no video | 08:02 |
Tonio_ | frank_: jeff_: I configured kubuntu-default-settings to auto scan for mozilla plugins during kde session load, so I assume if you didn't touch the settings that should work... | 08:03 |
DaSkreech | Tonio_: So no kopete either? | 08:03 |
Tonio_ | frank_: ah yes, but that's not a flash issue | 08:03 |
Tonio_ | frank_: It is using flash 8 I think | 08:03 |
frank_ | Tonio_: but the same plugin works fine in firefox | 08:03 |
Tonio_ | frank_: that's the reason it doesn't work, but technically, flash 7 animations are correctly displayed here | 08:03 |
Tonio_ | frank_: tricky then..... | 08:03 |
DaSkreech | Since it's supposed to come out this month | 08:04 |
Tonio_ | frank_: javascript issue or something then ? I am testing others websites and flash works on them.... | 08:04 |
noiesmo | anyone here got a linux box running on DAC960 raid controlle | 08:04 |
jeff_ | Tonio_: im gonna set it to scan on kde load too and see if its working when i reload | 08:04 |
Tonio_ | jeff_: in any case the plugin is loaded and launches.... but yes, I don't see the video on google.... | 08:05 |
Tonio_ | but it works on other websites.... | 08:05 |
jeff_ | DaSkreech: you can get the newest kopete packages for breezy on their site, and the second newest (still newer than the packs on the ropo) one for dapper | 08:05 |
frank_ | Tonio_: ok so you get the same problem as me on google | 08:05 |
Tonio_ | frank_: yup | 08:06 |
DaSkreech | jeff_: Yeah but still no 0.12 love for dapperites? | 08:06 |
jeff_ | Tonio_: if there is flash embedded on a page, it just doesnt show | 08:06 |
jeff_ | DaSkreech: lol yeah i know | 08:06 |
Tonio_ | jeff, let me show you another example | 08:06 |
jeff_ | DaSkreech: we're stuck with beta 1 | 08:06 |
chavo | in firefox the video plays but no sound :( | 08:06 |
DaSkreech | beta1 is in repos? | 08:07 |
chavo | just play them both together | 08:07 |
jeff_ | DaSkreech: while all the other kids are playing with 0.12 beta 2 | 08:07 |
jeff_ | DaSkreech: no, its on the site | 08:07 |
DaSkreech | ah ok | 08:07 |
Tonio_ | frank_: http://2advanced.com/flashindex.htm | 08:07 |
Tonio_ | works | 08:07 |
Tonio_ | and this is an embedded flash animation | 08:07 |
nolte | noiesmo: DAC960 sounds familiar to me, will check my servers | 08:07 |
DaSkreech | so guess I should just suck it up and install everything the renegade way :-) | 08:07 |
chavo | the flash videos on youtube.com work | 08:08 |
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noiesmo | nolte, cheers old mylax raid controller getting errors when modprobe tries to load module | 08:09 |
nolte | noiesmo: got this one RAID bus controller: Mylex Corporation eXtremeRAID 2000/3000 support Device | 08:10 |
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nolte | noiesmo: runs on SLES9 | 08:11 |
DaSkreech | can you add a pakage on the end of a list while the current list is downloading? | 08:11 |
noiesmo | nolte, ok just found an old fedora core k12 disk and it seems to recognize the card but then freezes am trying text mode install | 08:11 |
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noiesmo | nolte, now it says parport0: blah blah then nothing happens but it did see the raid array i created with the mylax app dam it windows xp installed without any issues but i dont want windows I just put windows on to test raid | 08:13 |
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jtmoney | i just reinstalled flight 7 and it's giving me an error when i try to install linux-686... anyone know why? or should i just stick w/ 5.10? | 08:16 |
_rince_ | mrgn | 08:18 |
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jtmoney | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 08:22 |
jtmoney | linux-686: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-686 but it is not going to be installed | 08:22 |
jtmoney | E: Broken packages | 08:22 |
jtmoney | anyone know why i get that error when i try to install linux-686? | 08:22 |
jtmoney | also, what is LTS? | 08:22 |
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ajayc | LTS-linux that sucks (kidding) | 08:25 |
jtmoney | hah | 08:26 |
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jtmoney | okay, so it's "long term support" ... does that mean it's the final version? | 08:29 |
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scheuri | hi all | 08:33 |
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DaSkreech | jtmoney: Hmm Good point | 08:36 |
DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Hobbsee!!! :) | 08:38 |
Hobbsee | hi DaSkreech | 08:38 |
DaSkreech | Hmm :-( | 08:38 |
DaSkreech | Wish I could get konversation to flash :-( | 08:38 |
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Hobbsee | DaSkreech: why cant you? | 08:40 |
ahmeni | it's not drunk enough | 08:40 |
DaSkreech | Where would I set that? | 08:40 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreech: settings, notifications | 08:40 |
DaSkreech | I can get it to beep me but not to ask for attention | 08:41 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreech: pretty much any kde app can be set in knotify - so you can go into system settings, sound and multimedia, the second option - and change it for any program | 08:41 |
Hobbsee | the flash the taskbar option? | 08:41 |
DaSkreech | Yes | 08:41 |
Hobbsee | that's the last little box | 08:41 |
DaSkreech | It doesn't | 08:41 |
Hobbsee | :( | 08:41 |
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DaSkreech | It flashes the system tray thingy | 08:42 |
Hobbsee | yes, isnt that the diea? | 08:42 |
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DaSkreech | No :-( | 08:43 |
DaSkreech | I want to Alt+Ctrl+A and pop it up | 08:43 |
jtmoney | here's some food for thought... i'm running xp pro and kubuntu on this lappy... there is a driver from toshiba for the video card for xp, and it appears that xorg is using a generic one... however, kubuntu displays much faster than xp does | 08:43 |
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DaSkreech | Open source + 1 | 08:44 |
DaSkreech | Right now I have it so that if someone says me name it plays some annoying sound | 08:45 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreech: ah yes. you can change the sounds too :P | 08:45 |
scheuri | DaSkreech: ;) | 08:45 |
Hobbsee | there's probably some way to make it steal focus... | 08:46 |
Hobbsee | in the special app settings... | 08:46 |
DaSkreech | Wouldn't mind if that also triggerd the acronjob in my head to hit some key to pop up the window so I can respond | 08:46 |
Hobbsee | jtmoney: that's an interesting thought...what model laptop? | 08:46 |
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jtmoney | toshiba satellite 2405-s201 | 08:46 |
jtmoney | from what i understand, you have to use summit lx to get "accelerated 3d" capabilities under x | 08:47 |
jtmoney | but this is far faster than xp... just blows the mind | 08:47 |
jtmoney | maybe it's just because i only really use firefox and it's faster under linux? | 08:47 |
dFour | have anyone a idear why amarok 1.4a is linked agains libkdecore.4 and not libkdecore.so.4 ... ? | 08:50 |
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DaSkreech | Does sabdfl ever hang here? | 08:52 |
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DaSkreech | Bilford_: Hi | 08:53 |
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Bilford_ | hello | 08:56 |
Bilford_ | Kubuntu runs great on this laptop | 08:57 |
Bilford_ | 767 ghz | 08:57 |
Bilford_ | it had Windows on it before | 08:57 |
cfraz89 | thast insanely fast lol | 08:57 |
Bilford_ | no, thats the chip | 08:57 |
Starzend | It is. Where did you get that laptop? | 08:57 |
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Bilford_ | haha | 08:58 |
Starzend | and you sold whos soul for this? | 08:58 |
Bilford_ | what | 08:58 |
Starzend | dw | 08:58 |
Bilford_ | oh lol | 08:58 |
Bilford_ | 767 mhz | 08:58 |
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Bilford_ | it runs like 767 ghz with Kubuntu | 08:58 |
cfraz89 | i think itd run great on my laptop too if it was that speed | 08:58 |
Bilford_ | its like a new laptop | 08:58 |
Bilford_ | Windows ran slow and the display looked all weird | 08:59 |
Bilford_ | now everything is crisp, clear, and fast | 08:59 |
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Bilford_ | dumbwit? | 08:59 |
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metaldave | ho un problema posso chiedere? | 09:00 |
Bilford_ | companies throw out laptops that are under 1 ghz | 09:01 |
Bilford_ | they have to keep up to run Windows and new Windows apps | 09:01 |
Bilford_ | they wouldnt have to throw them out if they used Kubuntu | 09:01 |
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DaSkreech | metaldave: #kubuntu-es | 09:06 |
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DaSkreech | Someone send me to bed!! | 09:16 |
ahmeni | killall -SLEEP DaSkreech | 09:17 |
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DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Night | 09:28 |
Hobbsee | night DaSkreech | 09:28 |
DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Your tldp URL works? | 09:28 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreech: my which? | 09:29 |
DaSkreech | Your part message URL? | 09:29 |
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Hobbsee | DaSkreech: it should do, someone commented on it earlier... | 09:29 |
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Hobbsee | DaSkreech: i can connect to it... | 09:31 |
DaSkreech | I can't | 09:31 |
DaSkreech | ah well I'll try tomorrow | 09:31 |
Hobbsee | odd | 09:31 |
DaSkreech | Night all | 09:32 |
DaSkreech | Not from my network :-) | 09:32 |
Hobbsee | it's a good read, though :) | 09:34 |
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Bilford | new kernel | 09:40 |
Bilford | 2.6.15 | 09:40 |
Bilford | restart KDE | 09:41 |
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jtmoney | i'm reading ubuntuguide.org and i'm thinking that "sudo mount //192.168.0.1/linux /media/sharename/ -o username=myusername,password=mypassword" definitely is not the right command for mounting a network share | 09:51 |
jtmoney | shouldn't it be smbclient or something other than mount? it gives me an error when i try that (filling in the appropriate variables, of course) | 09:51 |
jtmoney | the network connection is fine too... smb://server/c$ works | 09:52 |
jtmoney | ohh, wiki has a great page on it | 09:52 |
jtmoney | let me try that first ;) | 09:52 |
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Bilford | you really dont need to do anything | 09:53 |
Bilford | are you there | 09:54 |
Bilford | Go to Network Places, and Samba | 09:54 |
jtmoney | worked like a charm | 09:54 |
Bilford | its most likely already set up | 09:54 |
Bilford | ok | 09:54 |
jtmoney | had to add smbfs | 09:54 |
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fatejudger | is there a way to tell Konqueror to always play Flash sound through "aoss"? | 09:56 |
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rohan | hmm.. is it possible to change the kubuntu wallpaper now ? its too ugly, and has no identity.. | 10:10 |
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cfraz89 | drag the picture onto your desktop | 10:17 |
cfraz89 | then click set as wallpaper | 10:18 |
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rohan | why does kubuntu remove kedit and kwrite ? | 10:19 |
ajayc | rohan edubuntu also has shipit | 10:20 |
rohan | ajayc: this is not a channel for our personal chat | 10:20 |
ajayc | i mean people edubuntu also has shipit | 10:21 |
Hobbsee | ajayc: oh good, so they did get it as well... | 10:21 |
Hobbsee | rohan: kwrite's there, it's not on the menus. they thought that 3 GUI text editors installed by default was a bit excessive | 10:22 |
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rohan | Hobbsee: yes, but like, for editing simple text files, imo, kedit would be overkill | 10:22 |
Hobbsee | rohan: kate's there | 10:22 |
rohan | Hobbsee: err.. yeah, kate's overkill | 10:23 |
rohan | seeing that it has those programming tabs and all | 10:23 |
Hobbsee | true... | 10:24 |
Hobbsee | kwrite's not bad for really simple stuff | 10:24 |
rohan | hmm.. so kwrite is great for simple editing.. kate's overkill | 10:24 |
rohan | and kate is good for .c and .cpp and such | 10:24 |
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rohan | can it be changed, now ? | 10:25 |
jk- | hi all. | 10:25 |
jk- | anyone running amarok-1.4 ? | 10:25 |
Hobbsee | jk-: yes | 10:25 |
Hobbsee | changed to be what? | 10:25 |
rohan | i'd really like too see the the text editor and wallpaper changed :( | 10:25 |
Hobbsee | what are you suggesting? text editor changed to kwrite only? | 10:26 |
rohan | no | 10:26 |
rohan | to kwrite for simple files | 10:26 |
rohan | and to kate for .c and .h and such programming files | 10:26 |
Hobbsee | that just gets more and more confusing - better just to stick with the one text editor | 10:27 |
rohan | kate would be 'initimidating' if someone wanted to edit ~/projects/a_quick_text_file | 10:27 |
Hobbsee | and the inverse is also true | 10:28 |
Hobbsee | but kate's mostly understandable... | 10:29 |
rohan | oh, ok | 10:29 |
Hobbsee | like gedit - who uses all those commands anyway? | 10:29 |
jk- | Hobbsee: are you using the xine arts output ? | 10:29 |
Hobbsee | jk-: i think so, yes | 10:29 |
rohan | and the wallpaper .. it has no identity ! not even a logo ! :( | 10:29 |
Hobbsee | yes, i'm not sure why that's the case..that's kwwii's domain | 10:30 |
rohan | 14:00 < Hobbsee> yes, i'm not sure why that's the case..that's kwwii's domain ---> the wallpaper ? | 10:30 |
Hobbsee | rohan: yes | 10:30 |
jk- | Hobbsee: did you need to do do anything tricky to install the arts output ? | 10:30 |
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Hobbsee | jk-: not that i remember...but i may have... | 10:31 |
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rohan | also, why no k3b setup menu entry ? k3b is already set up properly ? | 10:33 |
Hobbsee | rohan: the wallpaper and all the graphics | 10:33 |
rohan | Hobbsee: ok. | 10:33 |
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Hobbsee | *growls at pbuilder* | 10:34 |
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rohan | http://edubuntu.com/ --> hadnt they kept a bounty removed "Human beings" ? | 10:44 |
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rohan | even http://www.ubuntu.com/ | 10:45 |
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dbglt | hi there. I'm just wondering... on updating kde I can't seem to get a desktop-list when I try "Walk through desktop" shortcut... but it instead just switches automatically to the next desktop... would there be any logical explanation for this? | 10:47 |
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_diop | my laptop detects my cell phone but impossible to share files with it via bluetooth, any idea | 10:52 |
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jk- | Hobbsee: could i get you to check if you are using amarok+xine+arts? i can't find any way to enable arts output :( | 11:06 |
Hobbsee | jk-: ah, amarok xine and alsa | 11:07 |
jk- | ah, right :) | 11:07 |
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XVampireX | Hi... maybe it is just slightly relevant... but is there any way to get a linux (ubuntu/kubuntu?) version of ironpython? | 11:08 |
Vampis | morning ppl | 11:10 |
Vampis | kkathman: =) | 11:10 |
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thundershirt | howdy guys? | 12:56 |
rob | man the ati drivers are giving me the hebegebies | 12:56 |
thundershirt | lol why? | 12:57 |
rob | it should work, but on dapper it wont (even getting the drivers from the ati web site doesn't work) | 12:57 |
thundershirt | cant say anything i go intel | 12:58 |
rob | it just locks up, dam laptop | 12:58 |
thundershirt | use something else then | 12:58 |
rob | what? I've tried both methods | 12:59 |
thundershirt | i mean use some other distro | 12:59 |
rob | hehe | 01:00 |
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rob | for me that would be blasphemy | 01:00 |
thundershirt | lol | 01:00 |
thundershirt | i got probs too | 01:01 |
thundershirt | cant play two songs simulataneulsy | 01:01 |
rob | actually I have been kind of unimpressed with kubuntu dapper so far.. | 01:01 |
XVampireX | thundershirt: It's obvious | 01:01 |
XVampireX | That's a problem with the sound drivers | 01:02 |
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rob | hmm fglrx loads cleanly into the kernel at least | 01:03 |
rob | chipset is supported.. | 01:05 |
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drgonzo | hello all | 01:13 |
drgonzo | I'm just switched from gentoo to ubuntu, and I'm about to install kbuntu-desktop, I'm wondering it tells me it's breezy0.55 but what version of kde is it? | 01:14 |
Hobbsee | 3.4.3 probably | 01:15 |
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Hobbsee | !kde3.5.2 | 01:15 |
ubotu | it has been said that kde3.5.2 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". | 01:15 |
drgonzo | cheers | 01:15 |
vanja | Hi,anyone that can help me with a small problem? I'm all new to this kubuntu and linux thing, and I'm trying to find out how to transfer picutres from my digitalcamera to my computer | 01:15 |
quique | vanja: install digikam | 01:15 |
vanja | where do I find that? | 01:16 |
Vampis | sudo apt-get install digikam | 01:16 |
vanja | found it, thanks! | 01:17 |
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drgonzo | ok i've done that, is it the same package kubuntu-desktop? | 01:22 |
drgonzo | because I havn't installed it yet | 01:23 |
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Hobbsee | yes, just add the extra repo | 01:24 |
drgonzo | I've added it | 01:24 |
drgonzo | and done apt-get update etc etc | 01:25 |
Hobbsee | yep | 01:25 |
drgonzo | but it's still showing up as same version 0.55 | 01:25 |
Hobbsee | so when you install kubuntu-desktop, you should get kde 3.5 | 01:25 |
Hobbsee | drgonzo: apt-cache show kdelibs | 01:25 |
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Hobbsee | what version does that show? | 01:25 |
Vampis | Hobbsee: depends on wich repositories he has | 01:25 |
Hobbsee | Vampis: already told him about the kde 3.5.2 repo :) | 01:26 |
Vampis | ah, sorry, I missed that | 01:26 |
Vampis | My bad =) | 01:26 |
Hobbsee | hehe it's okay | 01:26 |
drgonzo | ok its showing right version | 01:26 |
Hobbsee | good :) | 01:26 |
drgonzo | Im about to do the update but im getting this error | 01:26 |
drgonzo | kubuntu-desktop: | 01:27 |
drgonzo | Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed | 01:27 |
HymnToLife | do you have the correct repos ? | 01:27 |
Hobbsee | try sudo apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kubuntu-desktop | 01:27 |
Hobbsee | HymnToLife: should do | 01:28 |
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drgonzo | i just put in the first repo | 01:28 |
drgonzo | kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler0c2-qt (>= 0.4.0) but it is not going to be installed | 01:28 |
HymnToLife | drgonzo> KDE 3.5.2 on Breezy ? | 01:28 |
drgonzo | yeah i just grabbed breezy but ubuntu not kubuntu | 01:29 |
drgonzo | now i would like to install kde 3.5.2 | 01:29 |
drgonzo | So i stuck the first repo on that page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php and added the key etc | 01:29 |
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drgonzo | did the update and now im getting that error | 01:29 |
HymnToLife | and what comand are you running ? | 01:29 |
drgonzo | apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kubuntu-desktop | 01:30 |
HymnToLife | hmm, definitely worked here | 01:30 |
HymnToLife | try another repo | 01:30 |
drgonzo | remove the old and add another or just add it? | 01:30 |
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HymnToLife | remove the old one | 01:31 |
drgonzo | ok | 01:31 |
drgonzo | maybe i've got old qt ? | 01:31 |
drgonzo | it's whinging about libpoppler0c2-qt | 01:31 |
HymnToLife | even if you did, it would update it | 01:31 |
HymnToLife | yeah, maybe the package is missing on the repo | 01:32 |
drgonzo | ok ill try | 01:32 |
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drgonzo | deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main isnt that the main one? | 01:32 |
drgonzo | because thats what I added | 01:32 |
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Vampis | drgonzo: Thats the one I used when I used breezy | 01:33 |
Vampis | http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php | 01:34 |
Vampis | check that one | 01:34 |
drgonzo | ok same problem | 01:34 |
drgonzo | with second repo | 01:34 |
drgonzo | kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler0c2-qt (>= 0.4.0) but it is not going to be installed | 01:34 |
drgonzo | E: Broken packages | 01:34 |
Vampis | did u add the keys ? | 01:34 |
drgonzo | i added the one key | 01:34 |
Vampis | ok | 01:34 |
HymnToLife | !info libpoppler0c2-qt | 01:35 |
ubotu | libpoppler0c2-qt: (PDF rendering library (Qt-based shared library)), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 96 kB | 01:35 |
HymnToLife | this one seems to be on the main ubuntu repo | 01:35 |
drgonzo | whats the name of the package? | 01:35 |
HymnToLife | hmm atually it's in universe | 01:36 |
HymnToLife | did you enable it ? | 01:36 |
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drgonzo | i dunno | 01:36 |
drgonzo | don't think so | 01:36 |
drgonzo | i just installed this distro like 30 mins agoo | 01:36 |
HymnToLife | then go to your sources.list | 01:36 |
drgonzo | ago* | 01:36 |
HymnToLife | and uncomment the lines mentioning "universe" | 01:36 |
drgonzo | ok | 01:36 |
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drgonzo | done | 01:37 |
HymnToLife | then update | 01:37 |
Vampis | sudo apt-get update again then | 01:37 |
rob | is it ok to install gstreamer etc on kubuntu, or is there a better method for kubuntu | 01:37 |
HymnToLife | and install kubuntu-desktop | 01:37 |
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drgonzo | brilliant thanks | 01:39 |
drgonzo | :) | 01:39 |
drgonzo | I thought it was just a foobar of a dept issue in package( im comming from gentoo) | 01:39 |
drgonzo | maybe some package that looped or something... | 01:40 |
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HymnToLife | there was just a packge needed for the install that was not available in your repos | 01:41 |
drgonzo | yeah, thanks again | 01:41 |
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isa | hi. i just installed 4GB Ram (i had 1 gb) and now i always get a kernel panic on boot (i use breezy) with kernel-2.6.12-10 and smp. i tried to boot with knoppix and get the same error. <0> kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt | 01:52 |
isa | i have no clue, what i could do ... | 01:53 |
Vampis | something wrong with the new memories? run a memtest | 01:53 |
isa | memtest didn find anything so far | 01:53 |
isa | there are 4 new 1gb - chips | 01:53 |
isa | if i install 2 of them, kubuntu works. if i install 3 or 4, the kernel gets paniced :) | 01:54 |
Vampis | hms | 01:54 |
isa | as this happens in knoppix too, i fear that there may be a problem with the 2.6-kernel. what do you think? | 01:55 |
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HymnToLife | try with a 2.4 :p | 01:56 |
isa | HymnToLife: thats, what i am doing right now, but i would like to get some further ideas, if that doesnt work :) | 01:57 |
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HymnToLife | that's far beyond my knowledge lol | 01:57 |
isa | i hate kernel panic :) | 01:57 |
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isa | that always sounds so dramatically :) | 01:57 |
HymnToLife | never got any | 01:58 |
HymnToLife | I guess I'm not tinkering with it enough yet | 01:58 |
isa | does anyone know, if the kubuntu 2.4-kernel-image-smp supports 4gb ram? | 02:00 |
isa | i need smp and 4gb ... | 02:01 |
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isa | oh. there is no kubuntu 2.4 - image? :) | 02:03 |
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lackdiant | hi, I have a problem with flash plugin | 02:04 |
lackdiant | I upgraded it from aptitude | 02:04 |
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lackdiant | and firefox closes since thn | 02:05 |
lackdiant | then | 02:05 |
lackdiant | before that, in aptitude appeared a question that said if I want to downloaded from internet | 02:05 |
lackdiant | and I don't remember what I answered but I think I said no | 02:05 |
botbotdizip | hi all, anyone here have any ideas why a dvd/cd combo won't read cdr's in kubuntu? | 02:06 |
lackdiant | how can I reconfigure flash? | 02:06 |
botbotdizip | reads dvd's just fine, but not cdr's | 02:06 |
HymnToLife | botbotdizip> can it read them a all, I mean in Windows ? | 02:07 |
botbotdizip | yeah worked ok with xp on the system | 02:07 |
botbotdizip | i enabled dma and all that | 02:07 |
botbotdizip | just reads dvd's for now, I'm a bit stumped as to why | 02:08 |
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botbotdizip | it read ok in small small linux too so I'm thinking its just a breezy distro thing | 02:10 |
botbotdizip | damn small linux, typo | 02:10 |
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isa | is there no kernel image for 2.4 in breezy? | 02:11 |
HymnToLife | nope, I don't think there is | 02:11 |
isa | arks | 02:12 |
botbotdizip | just 2.6 i think. damn small linux has reverted to 2.4 for the sake of older hardware | 02:12 |
HymnToLife | you'll hve to go back to Debian :D | 02:12 |
isa | *G* | 02:12 |
HymnToLife | or compile it jourself | 02:12 |
botbotdizip | anyone else had dvd combo probs? | 02:13 |
HymnToLife | mine works pretty well | 02:13 |
HymnToLife | does yours read CD-Rs fine on Windows ? | 02:14 |
botbotdizip | reading cdr's? I got a liteon | 02:14 |
botbotdizip | yeah it reads fine in winblowz | 02:14 |
HymnToLife | that's really strange | 02:14 |
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botbotdizip | the only thing i did was hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc | 02:15 |
botbotdizip | yeah i know | 02:15 |
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botbotdizip | I'm willing to give anything a try, how do i slow the read speed from console | 02:16 |
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botbotdizip | i was just reading that dvd/cd readers are optimized for reading and need to be slowed down for cdrs | 02:17 |
botbotdizip | woops optimised for reading dvds | 02:18 |
botbotdizip | anyway I'll keep tinkering, I'll let you know if I can find a workaround | 02:19 |
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zambba | How can I prevent using the Trash with removable media? | 02:30 |
zambba | I can't delete files from usb memory using Konqueror. Konqueror just moves them to hidden /media/kingston/.Trash-nnnnnn folder | 02:30 |
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Dasnipa` | use console to delete them? | 02:31 |
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djk_ | where do you put a *.bin and a *.so to use them? | 02:37 |
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kettenschutz | could someone help ?! | 02:39 |
_per_ | does anyone know how to stop the korganizer reminder daemon at login? (i made kmail start at login, but i can't turn the reminder daemon off) | 02:39 |
djk_ | kettenschutz: download unace from the winace site. the unace in the repos is a waste of code.. | 02:39 |
kettenschutz | ah ok thx @ djk | 02:40 |
kettenschutz | ehm, i have to replace the new unace with the old unace !? | 02:41 |
kettenschutz | where is the old unace stored? | 02:41 |
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djk_ | kettenschutz: /usr/bin/ | 02:43 |
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_per_ | nobody knows how to stop the korganizer reminder at login? (i HAVE tried to choose "Do not start" in the right-click menu of the system tray icon, but that doesn't work) | 02:44 |
kettenschutz | ok thx :) | 02:44 |
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kettenschutz | yay works thanx :D | 02:46 |
djk_ | you're welcome | 02:47 |
kettenschutz | = ) | 02:47 |
kettenschutz | ehm, what was the sign to directly give the root folder in the terminal | 02:47 |
kettenschutz | f.e. im @ my downloads folder but i want to use a command from the multimedia folder | 02:47 |
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kettenschutz | there was a sign or something to directly start from home | 02:48 |
_per_ | kettenschutz: ~ | 02:48 |
djk_ | ~ ? | 02:48 |
kettenschutz | sh $:multimedia/start.sh | 02:48 |
kettenschutz | the tilde ?! | 02:48 |
kettenschutz | sh ~:multimedia/start.sh | 02:48 |
kettenschutz | this would work? | 02:48 |
kettenschutz | aaah thanx | 02:50 |
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mhterres | morning | 02:54 |
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mhterres | hi guys | 02:57 |
mhterres | since I updated my Ubuntu do Dapper I can see the color sintax in vim | 02:58 |
mhterres | anybody knows what is wrong ? | 02:58 |
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mhterres | hmmm, anybody knows why the vim-common package is wrong ??? | 03:00 |
mhterres | It doesn't have the complete vim files | 03:01 |
mhterres | :-( | 03:01 |
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mhterres | problem solved :-) | 03:02 |
visik7 | is vim7 in dapperdrake ? | 03:02 |
jeroenvrp | I have a question for you all | 03:03 |
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Vampis | shoot | 03:04 |
jeroenvrp | I'm using firestarter (gnome app) as my firewall with succes, I like the app, but I want to have a KDE application for this - what is the best KDE substitution for Firestarter?? | 03:04 |
mhterres | no | 03:04 |
mhterres | vim 6.4 | 03:04 |
mhterres | jeroenvrp: the answer no was to visik7, not for you :-) | 03:05 |
jeroenvrp | mhterres: I understand :-), cause I've never heard off an app called "no" | 03:05 |
visik7 | ok I'm stuck with my packages for breezy | 03:05 |
mhterres | hehehehehhe | 03:06 |
mhterres | jeroenvrp: I don't read your question, before I send you the msg :-) | 03:06 |
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h3sp4wn | jeroenvrp: Does firestarter allow you to setup quality of service (QOS) ? | 03:21 |
jeroenvrp | you mean to limit bandwidth and such | 03:22 |
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jeroenvrp | h3sp4wn: no | 03:25 |
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h3sp4wn | jeroenvrp: Its useful for things like making sure your net connection is still usable under high load - (for example any ssh packets get the highest priority) - You can still browse quickly when downloading a torrent stuff like that - you need to use tc and l7-filter | 03:27 |
jeroenvrp | h3sp4wn: yes that is what I meant | 03:28 |
jeroenvrp | no, its a firewall | 03:28 |
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h3sp4wn | The modules ipt_layer7 ipt_CONNMARK etc are part of iptables (the linux firewall) so I just thought it may setup stuff like that | 03:30 |
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_bon | this is problly a really eay probem to fix - every time i click a link in konqueror it open an open diolgo box with options for save as - open with firefox and cancle | 03:31 |
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jeroenvrp | h3sp4wn: oh I didnt know that | 03:33 |
jeroenvrp | I can remember it was different module, but it was a long time ago I uses it | 03:34 |
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Paradosso | hi everybody | 03:38 |
Paradosso | anybody had any luck installing artwiz fonts in kubuntu? | 03:38 |
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sudomaster | am i on # kubuntu? | 04:04 |
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sudomaster | hello... | 04:05 |
sudomaster | **need adept help** | 04:05 |
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cyberboy | is amarok 1.4 a lot betterR? | 04:17 |
tuxcicles | how would one get amarok 1.4, drake? | 04:17 |
tuxcicles | anyone know if i were to install kde components, would it break kubuntu? | 04:19 |
cyberboy | which kde components? | 04:20 |
tuxcicles | kde-multimedia, art... | 04:20 |
ccc_ | cyberboy: a lot better than 1.3.x yes | 04:21 |
ccc_ | tuxcicles: here's how: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php | 04:22 |
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sPiderman | where can i download wine? | 04:23 |
ccc_ | www.winehq.org | 04:24 |
sPiderman | txs | 04:24 |
ccc_ | they have a repository for ubuntu | 04:24 |
sPiderman | ok | 04:24 |
tuxcicles | ccc_: looks like it's in dapper, darn - anyone know if there is a way to update without reinstalling to get up to dapper? | 04:25 |
cyberboy | when you install kde-components... kde installs it and recompile... don't abort that process | 04:25 |
cyberboy | i did en i f*cked up kde | 04:25 |
sPiderman | i dont see any lniks to download wine | 04:25 |
cyberboy | but i think you can do is savely | 04:26 |
ccc_ | tuxcicles: sure, if you mean upgrade from breezy? | 04:28 |
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ccc_ | tuxcicles: or you mean upgrading amarok to 1.4 in breezy? | 04:30 |
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visik7 | ccc_: czessi repo | 04:32 |
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pfabregat | heya | 04:33 |
pfabregat | have any got xgl/compiz working on (k)ubuntu64 ? , i'm really lost in the forums and i cannot find anything usefull... i keep getting this "compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing" | 04:34 |
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ccc_ | visik7: exactly :) | 04:34 |
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ingo`` | hello | 04:48 |
ingo`` | someone here | 04:48 |
ingo`` | ????? | 04:48 |
jjesse | sometimes :) | 04:49 |
ingo`` | i have kubuntu cd -and i want to install it so i just want to know if the kubuntu burned cd has a duel booting stuff cuzz i want to have the windows 2 | 04:52 |
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_rince_ | it detects and enables other operating-systems | 04:52 |
_rince_ | it is still accessible via grub | 04:53 |
_rince_ | besides, it asks bevor rewriting your mbr | 04:53 |
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mindspin | high noon duel booting.... it should work fine, which cd do you have (breezy??) | 04:53 |
ingo`` | so i can just put the kubuntu cd and it will auto boot | 04:53 |
ingo`` | i mean duel boot | 04:53 |
mindspin | is it breezy or dapper ? | 04:54 |
_rince_ | the cd will boot if you have enabled booting from cd in your bios | 04:54 |
ingo`` | i have this | 04:55 |
ingo`` | http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/5.10/kubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso | 04:55 |
mindspin | I would be careful if its dapper, dapper live beta 2 ruined a xp installation on one of my machines | 04:55 |
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ingo`` | i dont want dapper | 04:55 |
mindspin | ok should work | 04:55 |
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ingo`` | so it will duel boot aUTO? | 04:56 |
_rince_ | aw right, there was this bug with dapper but it has been fixed a while ago | 04:56 |
ingo`` | RIGHT? if i put the kubuntu cd inn | 04:56 |
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mindspin | _rince_: I thought it was fixed on live beta 2 but either I'm stupid or the bug existed on my cd.... | 04:56 |
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_rince_ | ingo: you need free space on your hd, then after installing the kubuntu files it asks where and how to install the boot-loader | 04:57 |
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_rince_ | mindspin: worked like a charme here, about 3 weeks ago | 04:57 |
ingo`` | ok | 04:57 |
ingo`` | but hey i burned the cd for 1 year ago | 04:58 |
mindspin | i did an install for linuxtag and it failed... (it was the live installer) | 04:58 |
ingo`` | so the cd is fixed ? | 04:58 |
_rince_ | ingo: with breezy, there never was a problem | 04:58 |
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ingo`` | but hey i burned the cd for 1 year ago? -i mean does the cd has a dapper pug stuff? | 04:58 |
_rince_ | def. not, but think about getting a current breezy cd :) | 04:59 |
mindspin | ingo``: we are talking about dapper live beta , not about breezy | 04:59 |
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uwo | hi all - having problems with mozplugger and konqueror - konqueror won't embed realplayer. An about:plugins in konq shows that mozplugger doesn't find the conf file and binaries (the about:plugins print is here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=165900&highlight=konqueror+realplayer), in firefox all works and mozplugger reports finding both (about:plugins at same link) | 04:59 |
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_rince_ | mindspin: _we_ are talking about dapper, ingo is talking about breezy or something even older | 04:59 |
mindspin | yup | 04:59 |
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slow-motion | re | 05:03 |
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gaby | hy all | 05:22 |
gaby | some one from romania? | 05:22 |
gaby | e cineva pe aici din romania? | 05:23 |
gaby | :) | 05:23 |
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gaby | fuck you man | 05:24 |
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mal_ | I'm getting errors in a configure script, and I think the problem is because I have a newer v of Bash. Any easy way around this? | 05:33 |
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admrl | im trying to get a aol dialer made by linspire to run and its giving me an error | 05:36 |
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admrl | ./losaol: line 2: cd: /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/los-aol: No such file or directory | 05:36 |
admrl | ./losaol: line 2: python2.3: command not found | 05:36 |
admrl | ./losaol: line 3: cd: OLDPWD not set | 05:36 |
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jeroenvrp | tried guarddog and kmyfirewall and they both have issues | 05:48 |
jeroenvrp | 1. guarddog: denies all connections to the internet, even dns | 05:48 |
jeroenvrp | 2. kmyfirewall: no option to make your own rules and protocoles inside the gui | 05:49 |
jeroenvrp | please use firestarter, no. 1 | 05:49 |
kronoz | a firewall module in kcontrol/systemsettings would be useful I think | 05:50 |
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kronoz | a have problem with kcontrol, sometimes when i need to use administrator/root mode i click the administrator button but it doesn't do kdesu and becomes unclickable | 05:51 |
kronoz | i had this problem a fews months ago on another kubuntu install so i'm thinking its a bug | 05:52 |
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jeroenvrp | known bug in breezy | 05:52 |
jeroenvrp | allthough should be fixed | 05:52 |
kronoz | i'm using dapper | 05:53 |
kronoz | beta2 | 05:53 |
jeroenvrp | beta2!! | 05:53 |
jeroenvrp | without updating t | 05:53 |
jeroenvrp | ? | 05:53 |
kronoz | doing apt-get upgrade now... | 05:53 |
jeroenvrp | and apt-get update first please | 05:53 |
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kronoz | yeah i know, i used to use debian ;) | 05:54 |
nixternal | good mornin' all | 05:54 |
jeroenvrp | or use kdesu adept_updater | 05:54 |
kronoz | hey nixterminal | 05:54 |
jeroenvrp | whatever you wish | 05:54 |
Kadran | kronoz: did you liked kubuntu more than debiian? | 05:55 |
kronoz | also, why does konqueror use system:/home instead of simply $HOME | 05:55 |
nixternal | what is the easiest way to uninstall old kernels, headers, and images with kubuntu? | 05:55 |
kronoz | Kadran, I haven't really used Kubuntu much, but I think so, I like the modified KControl | 05:56 |
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kronoz | nixternal, use apt | 05:56 |
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nixternal | i kinda figured that...i just wanted to make sure by using it...i wouldn't run into problems | 05:56 |
h3sp4wn | nixternal: aptitude search linux-image - aptitude purge linux-image-whatever | 05:57 |
nixternal | i want to remove all of the 2.6.15 stuff | 05:57 |
Kadran | kronoz: please tell me your openion after trying kubuntu cos' i need it from a person who really used both, thanks | 05:57 |
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h3sp4wn | So you want to downgrade to breezy from dapper ? | 05:57 |
nixternal | hmm..i notice if i goto remove old headers, it wants to take with it gcc and all that stuff...the base packages | 05:58 |
kronoz | Kadran, I would say Debian is more configurable, but I can't see any real reaons to use it over Kubuntu, execpt is it possibly faster if you tweak it and you have more choice | 05:58 |
h3sp4wn | Its faster by default | 05:59 |
kronoz | yeah but you could tweak it by using a certain kernel to make it faster | 05:59 |
nixternal | hmm...linux-kernel-headers 2.6.11.2-0ubuntu17 ....select remove and it wants to take everything...that i don't care so much about...but why is it using old headers....2.6.11??? | 05:59 |
nixternal | debian is better off as a server....kubuntu as a desktop.... | 06:00 |
kronoz | does ubuntu make any changes to dpkg? | 06:00 |
nixternal | but i have noticed some flakiness with debian and newer kernels also | 06:00 |
kronoz | nixternal, yup | 06:00 |
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h3sp4wn | it is noticably faster running kde under debian sid than kubuntu (I have only tried under a chroot though) | 06:01 |
nixternal | i am still running a 2.4 kernel on my debian sarge server | 06:01 |
nixternal | i think the reason for that h3sp4wn is cuz kubuntu does come a little bloated...i have noticed that...but nothing some minor tweaking can't fix | 06:01 |
nixternal | dapper that is...flight 7 to be exact... | 06:02 |
h3sp4wn | Its not minor to remove all the internationalisation stuff which is what I think slows it down | 06:02 |
nixternal | flight 7 was crazy bloated for em | 06:02 |
nixternal | ya...i am in the process of doing more right now | 06:02 |
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nixternal | tis the reason i am using mIRC ow | 06:02 |
nixternal | now | 06:02 |
nixternal | and ow i guess ;p | 06:02 |
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h3sp4wn | The shell server that I use runs debian woody (2.2.20) with upto about 50 users most of the time. My server used to run sarge for a long time but I changed to dapper server (to look at novell ifolder enterprise but it was too slow) dappers pretty stable - and the usb2 stuff seems to be alot better in 2.6 (I have an external usb2 disk connected to it) | 06:08 |
nixternal | kaffeine, kmplayer...which is best for videos? | 06:10 |
nixternal | or your preference | 06:10 |
uwo | question - if i would like to backup my system and try a new install of kubuntu, is it enough to copy the system and then format & copy it backto restore? in this case does tar cvpzf backup.tgz backup also hidden files? | 06:10 |
kronoz | nixternal, i prefer mplayer myself | 06:10 |
nixternal | i have too...i don't even think i have used kaffeine...it seemed bloated | 06:11 |
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kronoz | mozilla-mplayer is good for video and stuff in firefox | 06:12 |
kronoz | bbl | 06:12 |
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jeroenvrp | nixternal: if you dont like bloat, use codeine | 06:14 |
nixternal | lol | 06:14 |
jeroenvrp | nixternal: that's an app :-) | 06:14 |
nixternal | hey...if you want to remove knewsticker...a news ticker rss applet right...it wants to remove kdenetwork with it | 06:14 |
nixternal | that is nuts | 06:14 |
nixternal | no no...im laughin' cuz of knewsticker wantin' to take kdenetwork with it | 06:15 |
jeroenvrp | ok | 06:15 |
jeroenvrp | but I dont have newsticker | 06:15 |
jeroenvrp | ooooh | 06:15 |
nixternal | isn't that like trying to take off windows media player and then microshaft disabling your network? | 06:15 |
jeroenvrp | no no | 06:15 |
nixternal | exactly | 06:15 |
jeroenvrp | kdenetwork is a metapackage | 06:15 |
nixternal | i know | 06:15 |
jeroenvrp | so there's nothing wrong with it to remove it | 06:16 |
nixternal | but if you use synaptic, adept, apt...anything...and you select for removal of knewsticker...it says it takes kdenetwork with it | 06:16 |
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jeroenvrp | yes but kdenetwork is empty | 06:17 |
frank_ | nixternal: kdenetwork is probably just a metapackage | 06:17 |
jeroenvrp | it is only used, so you can install all packages at once | 06:17 |
nixternal | ok...so it isn't something i need thne | 06:17 |
jeroenvrp | no | 06:17 |
nixternal | it sounded important to me | 06:17 |
nixternal | lol | 06:17 |
jeroenvrp | should be in the discription | 06:17 |
nixternal | it isn't | 06:18 |
nixternal | description makes it sound like its needed | 06:18 |
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nixternal | glad you cleared that one up for me | 06:18 |
frank_ | nixternal: | 06:18 |
frank_ | This metapackage includes a collection of network and networking relatedapplications provided with the official release of KDE | 06:18 |
nixternal | hey...what is that caffeine you were talkin' about?? | 06:18 |
mal_ | #quit | 06:18 |
nixternal | my kernel is so whicked lean and mean...but i need to make my front end lean and mean now | 06:19 |
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jeroenvrp | codeine | 06:19 |
nixternal | yah...whats that about? | 06:19 |
LinuxMonkey | whats better KDE or Gnome | 06:19 |
nixternal | kde | 06:19 |
LinuxMonkey | trick question...lol | 06:19 |
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nixternal | truthfully...i think it is a matter of prefference | 06:19 |
LinuxMonkey | yeah | 06:20 |
nixternal | you either like it or you don't | 06:20 |
nixternal | they both have the pros and cons | 06:20 |
jeroenvrp | nixternal: thats a very very clean videoplater for xine, like kafeine | 06:20 |
frank_ | LinuxMonkey: simple answer: try both ;) | 06:20 |
nixternal | i like them both..but kde rox best for me | 06:20 |
nixternal | ahhhh | 06:20 |
nixternal | gotcha jeroenvrp | 06:20 |
LinuxMonkey | whats better for running games | 06:20 |
LinuxMonkey | lmao | 06:20 |
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frank_ | LinuxMonkey: no difference for games | 06:20 |
nixternal | once again...it is about a matter of preference | 06:20 |
LinuxMonkey | whats the latest version of kubuntu? | 06:21 |
nixternal | openoffice, koffice, staroffice? | 06:21 |
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frank_ | LinuxMonkey: the latest released version is 5.10 (breezy) 6.6 (dapper) comes out June 1st | 06:22 |
jeroenvrp | nixternal: difficult question | 06:22 |
nixternal | i know | 06:22 |
nixternal | haha | 06:22 |
jeroenvrp | I use koffice | 06:22 |
nixternal | thats why i asked it...you are on a roll jeroenvrp | 06:22 |
jeroenvrp | but also sometimes openoffice | 06:22 |
LinuxMonkey | frank_ is there a dapper beta? | 06:22 |
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nixternal | i have been using koffice myself... | 06:22 |
jeroenvrp | it is a hate-love-relationship with both apps | 06:22 |
nixternal | openoffice was kind of slow for me | 06:22 |
frank_ | LinuxMonkey: of course | 06:23 |
nixternal | i used to use star office...which was way better than ms office back in the 90's | 06:23 |
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jeroenvrp | but openoffice does more, can write wordfiles and open word files perfectly | 06:23 |
nixternal | remind you now...i haven't used x windows really since then...i have been a term freak | 06:23 |
frank_ | LinuxMonkey: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/ | 06:23 |
nixternal | i thought koffice could do the same.... | 06:23 |
jeroenvrp | and it has the option to spellcheck in more than one language atthe same time | 06:23 |
LinuxMonkey | ok its flight 7 :) last one i tried was flight 3 | 06:23 |
jeroenvrp | koffice can open word files | 06:24 |
frank_ | LinuxMonkey: or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20060519/ | 06:24 |
jeroenvrp | but only text | 06:24 |
nixternal | ahhh... | 06:24 |
nixternal | well that kinda sux... | 06:24 |
frank_ | LinuxMonkey: new cd images come out every day for dapper | 06:24 |
nixternal | koffice needs a lil more to it...cuz of the way it implements itself into the whole kde family | 06:24 |
jeroenvrp | but if I write texts myself, i use koffice | 06:24 |
LinuxMonkey | lol | 06:25 |
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semboy | hello | 06:26 |
semboy | someone here how can help me | 06:26 |
semboy | i am new to linux | 06:26 |
semboy | i want to update or install a video card for Ge Force Fx 6600 | 06:27 |
semboy | how do i do it ? | 06:27 |
frank_ | !nvidia | 06:28 |
ubotu | Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia | 06:28 |
frank_ | gotta go | 06:28 |
genjix | anyone know why I have an empty routing table? | 06:28 |
genjix | (no loopback device) | 06:28 |
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semboy | The NVIDIA drivers are in the "restricted" section of the Ubuntu Package | 06:29 |
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semboy | wher the is that? | 06:29 |
semboy | wher is that that? | 06:29 |
frank_ | semboy: restricted is available by default | 06:29 |
semboy | i mean _> restricted | 06:30 |
semboy | okei ? | 06:30 |
frank_ | semboy: use adept to install nvdia-glx for example | 06:30 |
semboy | now i understaND | 06:30 |
semboy | :) | 06:30 |
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klerfayt | I got strange problem with "nvidia-settings" - they reset my settings to default values every time I log in | 06:31 |
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semboy | Synaptic Package Manager. how do i install this? | 06:34 |
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semboy | i cant find it in package manager | 06:35 |
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semboy | (Adpt) | 06:35 |
rnunes | hi | 06:36 |
semboy | hello | 06:37 |
semboy | someone knowz how to install ubuntu? | 06:38 |
semboy | i am on kubuntu | 06:38 |
kkathman | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 06:38 |
semboy | semboy@SigurNafnjesu:~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 06:40 |
semboy | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) | 06:40 |
semboy | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? | 06:40 |
semboy | what does it mean? | 06:41 |
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kkathman | be sure to use sudo | 06:42 |
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semboy | i got it :) | 06:42 |
kkathman | and you probably are currently still running something | 06:43 |
kkathman | like synaptic | 06:43 |
semboy | i know :P | 06:43 |
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PhilHyde | Heya. Got a possible newbie question here: | 06:43 |
nixternal | hey PhilHyde...let er rip...i been askin' um all day ;D | 06:43 |
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semboy | what is good gdm or kdm? | 06:44 |
semboy | :S | 06:44 |
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kkathman | both | 06:44 |
kkathman | depends on your personal preference | 06:44 |
PhilHyde | OK. In previous Linux distros I've used, it was easy to get characters with accents when using X/KDE; Shift+CTRL, then the letter, then a punctuation mark that was roughly like the accent. | 06:45 |
PhilHyde | However, it's apparently turned off or not there in Kubuntu. Any idea if I can switch it on somewhere? | 06:45 |
kkathman | PhilHyde: kcontrol then look for the regional settings .. check that out | 06:45 |
PhilHyde | Already looked, nothing like it there. | 06:46 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: I use deadkeys for that. I tap ` (backtick) followed by e to produce , for instance | 06:47 |
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EvilIdler | Now, if I only could produce all Greek symbols, I'd be happy :) | 06:48 |
PhilHyde | Sounds like what I was using. How do I turn deadkeys on? | 06:48 |
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EvilIdler | PhilHyde: Unless it says "nodeadkeys" in the keymap settings, it should be on. | 06:49 |
nixternal | wheee...now kubuntu boots blank...lovely | 06:49 |
nixternal | lol | 06:49 |
nixternal | i hate when this happens | 06:49 |
EvilIdler | InitNoGo? :P | 06:50 |
PhilHyde | Aha. And where are the "keymap settings"? | 06:50 |
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nixternal | ;D | 06:50 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: kcontrol -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout | 06:51 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: If you have a keyboard with winkeys/penguinkeys and a menukey, pick a 105-key international | 06:51 |
PhilHyde | Nothing there that mentiones dead keys | 06:51 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: Your selected keymap shows something in 'command' when you click it | 06:52 |
PhilHyde | I'm using a 105-key UK keyboard | 06:52 |
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PhilHyde | Aha, I see that. | 06:52 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: Click your UK layout under 'Active layouts' | 06:52 |
PhilHyde | I've already got the UK layout. It's the only one KDE is set to use. | 06:52 |
EvilIdler | I've got "setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout no -variant basic", which implies deadkeys, since 'nodeadkeys' isn't mentioned | 06:52 |
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PhilHyde | "setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout gb -variant basic" here | 06:53 |
EvilIdler | Now you just need to find `, ', ", ~ and ^ symbols :) | 06:53 |
nixternal | seems that my xorg got borged....reinstall nvidia drivers and wallah | 06:53 |
nixternal | i loves this stuff | 06:53 |
PhilHyde | `;"~^. Already there. | 06:53 |
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PhilHyde | `'"~^, sorry. Typo :) | 06:54 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: Do you need to press them twice for them to appear alone? | 06:54 |
PhilHyde | No | 06:54 |
EvilIdler | I can barely read what they are with this font anyway :P | 06:54 |
PhilHyde | So how do I activate the old Shift+Ctrl, Letter, Punctuation? Is it a feature that was long since removed? | 06:55 |
EvilIdler | Strange. What if you select "Generoc 105-key(Intl)) PC" keyboard? | 06:55 |
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nixternal | EvilIdler....i had issues last night with initNoGo ;D | 06:55 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: I've never actually used that sort of combination | 06:55 |
nixternal | i just got done scrubbing my system | 06:56 |
nixternal | removing some of the overhead | 06:56 |
PhilHyde | Ah, that's what I have already. "Generic 105 key (Intl) PC", UK layout. | 06:56 |
EvilIdler | nixternal: You certainly scared me off trying it again ;) | 06:56 |
nixternal | looks like i removed a little to much ;p | 06:56 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: Let's see if I have a UK keyboard lying about :) | 06:56 |
nixternal | i setup grub for 2 kernels...so i was safe | 06:56 |
PhilHyde | Ahhhhh got it | 06:56 |
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trym | libxcomposite-dev: Depends: libxcomposite1 (= 1:0.2.2.2-0ubuntu2) but 1:0.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed | 06:56 |
nixternal | kubuntu is back up and running | 06:56 |
nixternal | gahahah EvilIdler | 06:57 |
PhilHyde | Ah, no, its not working right | 06:57 |
nixternal | whoa...my desktop flies...and top is lean and mean | 06:57 |
nixternal | god i love this.... | 06:57 |
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PhilHyde | Used the "Layout variant" combo box, set it to "intl", and suddenly had to hit every bit of punctuation twice. That's screwed up. | 06:58 |
trym | how do I force that to accept the 0.3 version ? | 06:58 |
nixternal | i shall return.... | 06:58 |
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EvilIdler | PhilHyde: No, that's actually better, unless you mean full stop, comma etc., too :) | 07:00 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: That's what deadkeys are. | 07:00 |
PhilHyde | Aha. Well, they're awful :) | 07:01 |
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EvilIdler | Hit the deadkey once, a letter, and get | 07:01 |
PhilHyde | Particularily for someone who uses apostrophes. | 07:01 |
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nixternal | ok...back now...this machine is runnin' really good now | 07:01 |
EvilIdler | My local keyboard (for local people!) has two apostrophes | 07:01 |
nixternal | i have a couple of wireless things installed...that i need to pinpoint and remove...cuz this thing will never use wireless | 07:01 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: Keymap layouts are a pain, in general. I lose square brackets on a regular basis. Not good for a programmer ;) | 07:02 |
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PhilHyde | Might have found a hint at a solution; apparently the Shift+Ctrl combo is referred to as a mapping of the "Compose key". So if I can find out where it's configured and how to map it to something I want... | 07:03 |
nixternal | here is a question for you....in system settings right...i uninstalled all bluetooth stuff....and there is a bogus icon left in system settings...how can i remove the bluetooth from system settings? | 07:04 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: Xkb options :) | 07:04 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: A veritable minefield of cryptic options ;) | 07:04 |
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PhilHyde | Yeah, figured I'd have to go delving in there. | 07:05 |
nico8481 | hi | 07:05 |
PhilHyde | It's not terribly well explained what a lot of those options are for, but at least I've found one. | 07:05 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: There's a field for the Eurosign. You might need to change that to allow for and | 07:05 |
nixternal | foudn it | 07:05 |
EvilIdler | PhilHyde: man xkbcomp, perhaps | 07:06 |
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randabis | wish I could find a decent mirror for the kubuntu 6.06 beta 2 livecd | 07:10 |
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crimsun | randabis: you'd be better off using a flight 7 live cd | 07:10 |
EvilIdler | randabis: Get the latest one, and try by torrent. | 07:11 |
EvilIdler | If there is a torrent, that is | 07:11 |
macd | all the repos seem to be crawling today (us ones) | 07:11 |
randabis | haven't been able to find a torrent for that | 07:12 |
randabis | flight 7 is the newest? | 07:12 |
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semboy | hello | 07:12 |
semboy | someone here | 07:12 |
crimsun | randabis: official milestone, yes | 07:12 |
randabis | ah okay | 07:12 |
randabis | thanks | 07:12 |
semboy | what is the good program or software to play Steam games | 07:13 |
randabis | I thought the beta was the newest, :/ | 07:13 |
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EvilIdler | The announcement of Flight 7 did of course happen 6 hours after I burned a live DVD of the previous one :P | 07:13 |
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gilster | hello i need help with suspend mode | 07:14 |
gilster | how do i automatically place computer in suspend mode? | 07:14 |
gilster | i am using kshutdown and want to set timer for suspend not poweroff or restart | 07:15 |
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gilster | does anyone know how to do this? | 07:16 |
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randabis | well, now the problem is finding a good flight 7 mirror :p | 07:17 |
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wasp_ems | can someone tell me why i cannot send files with kopete? | 07:18 |
trip | anyways else having trouble getting updates for dapper? | 07:18 |
trip | s/anyways/anyone | 07:18 |
randabis | hmm | 07:19 |
klerfayt | trip: what is your problem? | 07:19 |
trip | It's just timing out | 07:19 |
randabis | releases.ubuntu.com shows kubuntu 6.06 LTS beta 2 | 07:19 |
trip | guessing the servers might be under heavy load or something | 07:19 |
klerfayt | ahaa I had similar problem | 07:19 |
randabis | is there a different place for flight 7? | 07:19 |
klerfayt | try sudo apt-get update in konsole | 07:19 |
trip | yeah that's what i did | 07:20 |
klerfayt | trip: then sudo apt-get upgrade | 07:20 |
trip | it took a good while for it to download all the package lists | 07:20 |
trip | now it's just timing out when i try apt-get upgrade | 07:20 |
klerfayt | trip: sudo apt-get upgrade | 07:20 |
trip | yeah that's what i'm doing | 07:20 |
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macd | trip, yes the US repos are crawling today | 07:20 |
trip | boooo | 07:21 |
trip | figures the day i decide to upgrade to dapper | 07:21 |
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mhterres | #ldap | 07:21 |
trip | the servers are crawling | 07:21 |
trip | hehe | 07:21 |
macd | well thats most likely why, everyones going dapper | 07:21 |
trip | true | 07:21 |
trip | I know this info is on the website but to save time, what's the official release date? | 07:21 |
macd | though my ati still wont work in DRI :( | 07:21 |
randabis | i found it | 07:21 |
macd | June something | 07:21 |
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trip | Have you tried out automatix 6.0? | 07:22 |
trip | yay i got in | 07:22 |
trip | go upgrades go | 07:22 |
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macd | sure havent, Ive been using ubuntu since text based installer, and just been using apt ever since to upgrade | 07:23 |
trip | yeah | 07:23 |
trip | i like automatix bc it handles the codecs | 07:23 |
trip | I've been a debian fan for a long long time <3 | 07:23 |
ccc_ | !automatix | 07:23 |
ubotu | hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu. | 07:23 |
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randabis | though some people swear by automatix | 07:24 |
trip | hm i haven't heard of easyubuntu | 07:24 |
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trip | Automatix is fine if you're comfortable fixing problems it my cause | 07:24 |
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ccc_ | lol, i guess everything is fine by those standards | 07:25 |
randabis | this will be interesting trying out expresso | 07:25 |
trip | ccc_, true | 07:25 |
randabis | apx 3:35 left on download | 07:25 |
trip | I've always been the kind of kid that loves breaking my OS | 07:25 |
trip | ;) | 07:25 |
mhterres | hey guys, I'm having a trouble using xdmcp | 07:25 |
randabis | stupid truck stop wifi isn't that fast | 07:25 |
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ccc_ | trip: then automatix is perfect for you :D | 07:26 |
trip | haha | 07:26 |
trip | Well I'll check out easyubuntu | 07:26 |
mhterres | When the client sessions is logoff, my session is logged off too | 07:26 |
trip | or i'll just take a day off my slackology study and doit all manually | 07:26 |
jjesse | !automatix | 07:26 |
ubotu | automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu. | 07:26 |
jjesse | !easyubuntu | 07:26 |
ubotu | somebody said easyubuntu was an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/. | 07:26 |
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trip | mmm nothing like 196MB of updates | 07:28 |
Broxtor | Hi. My Kubuntu Dapper doesn't remember the default applications I set. Is there some way to solve that? | 07:28 |
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randabis | stab with fork? | 07:30 |
Tallia1Kubuntu | ss AG WRT55AG, ... | 07:30 |
Tallia1Kubuntu | www.ciao.co.uk/Linksys_Dual_Band_Wireless_A_G_Broadband_Router_WRT55AG__5816111 - 52k - Cached - Similar pages | 07:30 |
Tallia1Kubuntu | SMC Networks SMC EZ-Stream SMC2304WBR-AG Router - Yahoo! Shopping | 07:30 |
Tallia1Kubuntu | sorry | 07:30 |
randabis | =o | 07:30 |
Tallia1Kubuntu | the string that i wanted to past was: what is a G router? | 07:30 |
Tallia1Kubuntu | speaking about wifi ones | 07:30 |
jpatrick | trip: I have 317MB | 07:31 |
trip | jpatrick, you win! | 07:31 |
trip | Tallia1Kubuntu, is a varient of the 802.11 stanfard | 07:31 |
gilster | how do i set automatic suspend mode | 07:31 |
jpatrick | trip: heh :) | 07:31 |
trip | standard* | 07:32 |
Tallia1Kubuntu | oh, so it means only 802.11g connection? | 07:32 |
trip | jpatrick well if your connection to the apt servers is anything like mine today | 07:32 |
trip | you're gonna be waiting all day | 07:32 |
trip | lol | 07:32 |
jpatrick | trip: 104kBs/s 49m22s | 07:32 |
trip | I wonder if my boss would give me the day off to upgrade my laptop from home | 07:32 |
trip | lol | 07:33 |
trip | jpatrick, lucky bastage, i got one package downloaded and then it timed out before even starting the net one | 07:33 |
trip | net/next | 07:33 |
jpatrick | :) | 07:33 |
trip | stupid work dsl is ridiculously slow | 07:33 |
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ajayc | guys prob | 07:34 |
jpatrick | trip: too many people downloading porn I guess | 07:34 |
ajayc | when i run the livecd | 07:34 |
ajayc | and select shutdown | 07:34 |
ajayc | it get stuck at press enter to continue | 07:35 |
ajayc | any ideas? | 07:35 |
Tallia1Kubuntu | jpatrick: porn... or movies that in the ends reveal to be porns | 07:35 |
trip | jpatrick, too many people decided to upgrade to dapper the same day as me | 07:35 |
trip | how dare they. | 07:35 |
jpatrick | Tallia1Kubuntu: both | 07:35 |
ajayc | help me | 07:35 |
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Tallia1Kubuntu | :) | 07:35 |
jpatrick | trip: I think they dared alot | 07:35 |
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ajayc | HELP ME | 07:36 |
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trip | I think they're plotting against me | 07:36 |
trip | ajayc, i haven't had that issue so i have no advice | 07:36 |
mpathy | Hi there | 07:36 |
ajayc | is acpi enabled by default? | 07:36 |
jpatrick | ajayc: | 07:36 |
jpatrick | me neither | 07:36 |
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trip | ajayc, do you close all your applications before you shutdown? | 07:37 |
ajayc | yes | 07:37 |
mpathy | Hello! If someone can tell me where I can find these default icons of konqueror or where I can reactivate them, then I will happy to switch to Kubuntu: http://konqueror.kde.org/pics/konq_icon.png (talking about all the icons left of the zoom buttons) | 07:37 |
mpathy | especially the view mode button | 07:38 |
jpatrick | mpathy: enable them in the toolbars? | 07:39 |
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mpathy | jpatrick: as I said.. if someone can tell me where there are in Kubuntu, then I will switch, because they are essential.. they are not there where they should be (btw using KDE before for 4 years..) | 07:40 |
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jpatrick | They are | 07:41 |
jpatrick | mpathy: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror | 07:41 |
mpathy | jpatrick: yes I know.. okay, perhaps I got my dumb week ;) would you be so kind to tell me where they are or what they called in Kubuntu? | 07:44 |
jpatrick | mpathy: they're the dafault icons (Crystal SVG) | 07:45 |
mpathy | jpatrick: I didnt mean the iconset :) | 07:45 |
EvilIdler | I think mpathy's problem is he can't find the menu where you switch the main toolbar back on | 07:46 |
mpathy | EvilIdler: jpatrick: I need the button where I can chosse between: icon view, detailed file list view, tree view.. | 07:47 |
EvilIdler | mpathy: That's on the main toolbar. Three buttons. | 07:47 |
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mpathy | which release did you use? | 07:48 |
EvilIdler | The Konqueror window has a Settings menu. The first choice under that is Toolbars. | 07:48 |
mpathy | everyone try to talk to me like I am a newbie to KDE and Konqueror ;) | 07:48 |
mpathy | I know | 07:48 |
EvilIdler | Breezy, KDE 3.4 | 07:48 |
EvilIdler | Have they moved around that menu in later releases, or something? | 07:49 |
mpathy | Right, now, to be sure that I am not the person who screwed it, I use the live cd ;) | 07:49 |
mpathy | dapper | 07:49 |
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mhterres | Anybody here uses dapper with ltsp ? | 07:50 |
EvilIdler | Then someone on Dapper will have to find the option for you ;) | 07:50 |
mpathy | And I go here and in the german kubuntu channel but everyone either want to tell me the solution to another problem, tell me I screwed something or just say "its there. you just dont see it" - for a whole week? ;) | 07:51 |
EvilIdler | mpathy: Can you take a screenshot of your Konqueror windows? | 07:52 |
mpathy | EvilIdler: You can also use these from a kubuntu live-cd screenshot website ;) I didnt do anything but only start the cd, but be 100% sure I am not the problem ;) | 07:53 |
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EvilIdler | My fave excuse is always sunspots or phases of the moon :) | 07:55 |
mpathy | Anyone here who uses Kubuntu Dapper? | 07:55 |
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EvilIdler | I can only find 5.10 screenshots, which look exactly like mine | 07:56 |
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trip | i'm using dapper | 07:57 |
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semboy | !wine | 07:57 |
trip | but not for long if thse upgrades don't start | 07:57 |
Samuli^ | www.freewebs.com/arpakyna/dapper.jpg | 07:57 |
mpathy | And would do me the favour of searching a button like the one pressed on this screenshot, which is from the offical Konqueror page: http://konqueror.kde.org/pics/konq_icon.png | 07:57 |
Samuli^ | evilider, there's a dapper screenshot :) | 07:57 |
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mpathy | Samuli^: Yeah yeah, Ubuntu works I know *sigh* :) | 07:58 |
trip | mpathy, what do you mean | 07:58 |
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mpathy | trip: Do you have a button in your Konqueror in dapper that looks like the one right of the zoom buttons in the screenshot I posted? the one who is pressed | 07:59 |
EvilIdler | And the Settings menu in that screenshot isn't in your edition, mpathy ? | 07:59 |
mpathy | EvilIdler: It is not. Go to the offical konqueror page.. konqueror.kde.org ;) | 08:00 |
trip | no | 08:00 |
EvilIdler | Then it's probably something about the simplified Konqueror config that Kubuntu defaults to. There's something about it in a FAQ or Wiki | 08:00 |
mpathy | EvilIdler: I know that the Konqueror in Kubuntu is different, but I should be possible to reactivate some functionality, shouldnt it? | 08:01 |
mpathy | trip: Thanks for your response.. | 08:01 |
trip | right click on your menus | 08:01 |
mpathy | trip: And if you would be so kind, do you find it in your Toolbar Configuration? | 08:01 |
trip | goto toolbars | 08:01 |
trip | and enable the extras toolbar | 08:01 |
mpathy | trip: And then? There it is not. | 08:02 |
trip | hm | 08:02 |
EvilIdler | mpathy: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror | 08:02 |
mpathy | trip: Only the split view button, who look similar | 08:02 |
mpathy | EvilIdler: I did that to without success for the problem I have | 08:02 |
mpathy | -to +too, | 08:03 |
EvilIdler | mpathy: It's possible that the live cd makes it difficult to get the standard profiles | 08:03 |
EvilIdler | You WILL get the buttons by installing it properly, though. | 08:03 |
mpathy | EvilIdler: I tried it even in an installation.. | 08:03 |
trip | I'm using dapper full install on HD | 08:03 |
trip | and they're not there | 08:04 |
EvilIdler | Did you kep your old KDE settings from another distro? | 08:04 |
trip | I just don't have an issue going to view toolbar and changing it there | 08:04 |
trip | lol | 08:04 |
mpathy | trip: I HAVE | 08:04 |
mpathy | trip: Its an enourmous usabilitiy issue, its one of the most important buttons in a file manager | 08:04 |
trip | it is? | 08:04 |
trip | lol | 08:04 |
trip | I always found the location bar to be the most important | 08:05 |
mpathy | trip: and there is not even a way to assign shortcuts to these menu entrys | 08:05 |
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trip | there most likely is you just dont know how | 08:05 |
mpathy | trip: Then it starts with Kubuntu that I dont know how.. I am using KDE for 4,5 years | 08:06 |
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semboy | i did this wget http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb | 08:07 |
mpathy | trip: before KDE installations were on Debian and Knoppix and Kanotix.. so it should be that different.. Konqueror = Konqueror, and if not, Kubuntu broke it ;) | 08:07 |
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mpathy | and like the other days, after not succeding in telling me I am a newbie and only have to look right (and maybe longer then a week?) there is only the sound of silence.. | 08:11 |
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mpathy | sorry for being sarcastic.. :) | 08:11 |
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EvilIdler | mpathy: I'd like to see a screenshot of the Settings->Toolbars menu you have, because it's submissible as evidence in a UI bugreport ;) | 08:13 |
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mpathy | okay will put you a brand new one after rebooting the live cd to be 100% sure! | 08:14 |
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trip | lol | 08:14 |
EvilIdler | There should also be a context-menu when you right-click on any toolbars that ARE there, where you can select the missing ones | 08:15 |
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ninniuz | hi I read the shipit just started...does that mean it is possible to download Kubuntu dapper drake now? | 08:15 |
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ninniuz | I mean the stable release, not the beta ones | 08:15 |
mpathy | EvilIdler: I know - but what do I have from that? Its on now toolbar available | 08:15 |
EvilIdler | mpathy: So do you have the buttons in that toolbar or not? | 08:16 |
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ninniuz | is it? | 08:17 |
EvilIdler | ninniuz: There were reports of slow downloads today | 08:18 |
EvilIdler | Shipit is just snailmail shipment | 08:18 |
mpathy | EvilIdler: I dont have | 08:18 |
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ninniuz | yes I know what it is...but I'd prefer downloading it | 08:18 |
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ninniuz | just trying to understand if this is not the beta release | 08:19 |
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EvilIdler | mpathy: If you rightclick the toolbar and click the "Configure Toolbars.." choice, you should be be able to add the viewmode buttons by adding "ActionList: viewmode" from the list | 08:19 |
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ninniuz | ty anyway se you | 08:20 |
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Search4Lancer | GRRRRRR..... I am getting so goddamn sick of Firefox closing when I try to reorganize tabs | 08:21 |
mpathy | EvilIdler: Thats the way I can do it somewhere else.. On Kubuntu Dapper there is on Actionlist: viewmode | 08:21 |
jpatrick | Search4Lancer: use Konqueror | 08:22 |
EvilIdler | mpathy: Then it sounds broken. Breezy has it all, so I'd call that a bug. | 08:23 |
Search4Lancer | jpatrick: no | 08:23 |
Search4Lancer | shouldn't have to | 08:23 |
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mpathy | EvilIdler: Where can I report it that it will be fixed the fastest way? its not that long to Release | 08:23 |
Search4Lancer | and I already have all my work stuff in Firefox, and I've found Firefox to be much easier to use for my work than Konquerer | 08:24 |
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EvilIdler | mpathy: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ | 08:26 |
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EvilIdler | mpathy: Actually. https://launchpad.net/ | 08:26 |
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mpathy | oh yeah sure | 08:27 |
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Armagguedes | i've just updated amarok to v1.4.. when i play a file, the sidebar auto-jumps from "playlists" to "context". How do i disable that (in the previous version this did not occur). | 08:28 |
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apokryphos | Armagguedes: might be worth asking in #amarok | 08:29 |
Armagguedes | hm ok | 08:30 |
Armagguedes | tks apokryphos | 08:30 |
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nelio | bonsoir | 08:36 |
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nelio | j'aurai un petit souci | 08:37 |
jpatrick | !fr | 08:37 |
ubotu | Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. | 08:37 |
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nelio | oh ok | 08:38 |
nelio | sorry | 08:38 |
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trym | How do I fix this: libxcomposite-dev: Depends: libxcomposite1 (= 1:0.2.2.2-0ubuntu2) but 1:0.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed ? | 08:40 |
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EvilIdler | trym: If you're on Dapper, try updating the package lists again | 08:41 |
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fumomo | bonsoir | 08:55 |
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fumomo | je voudrais savoir comment on fais pour afficher les debits de transfert lors de la copie de fichier sous konqueror? | 08:55 |
jpatrick | !fr | 08:55 |
ubotu | Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. | 08:55 |
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fumomo | oups | 08:56 |
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fumomo | how can i see the transfert speed when i do a copy/paste under konqueror? | 08:56 |
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Blissex | fumomo: 'vmstat 1' in a terminal window | 08:57 |
fumomo | thx but how display it in the little progression windows? | 08:58 |
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fumomo | sometimes it's show it | 08:58 |
fumomo | not always | 08:59 |
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kkathman | .j #ubuntu+1 | 09:01 |
kkathman | ehh | 09:01 |
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eosyn | apt system seems hosed | 09:13 |
eosyn | waiting for headers till the sheep come home | 09:13 |
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thinX | hello | 09:19 |
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klerfayt | in klaptop is passive mode=supend to ram? | 09:20 |
thinX | when I try the kubuntu live cd, after much loading and hardware scanning and stuff, all I get is a command prompt - ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ | 09:20 |
thinX | why? | 09:20 |
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xwolf- | thinX tried 'startx &' already? | 09:25 |
xwolf- | i don't know why. | 09:25 |
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thinX | nope, will will try. What should I try if that doesn't work | 09:26 |
pm | help, i can't turn off antialiasing for gtk2 apps in dapper!!! | 09:27 |
pm | kcontrol fonts settings don't work, editing fonts.conf doesn't help either | 09:28 |
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thinX | does kubuntu not work with ati video cards? | 09:30 |
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DarkED | whats a good widget engine for kde? | 09:33 |
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ccc_ | thinX: sure does, i use one | 09:33 |
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gall_ | does anyone uses Dapper? | 09:33 |
thinX | i'm running on the live cd, would that make a difference | 09:34 |
ccc_ | DarkED: i like QtCurve since it's very configurable | 09:34 |
DarkED | thinX, yeah i use a mobility radeon 9700 just fine | 09:34 |
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DarkED | ccc_, qtcurve, ok, thanks | 09:34 |
thinX | i'm told i can 'install' ati drivers but if it's the live cd, can they be 'installed'? | 09:34 |
DarkED | ccc_, hmm i searched for it with apt-cache, it came up as kde-style-klearlook | 09:35 |
DarkED | ccc_, im guessing that isnt it | 09:35 |
DarkED | thinX, yeah if you actually install the system | 09:35 |
gall_ | i have problem wih amarok - it doesn't play mp3 | 09:35 |
DarkED | thinX, dude it would be a waste of time | 09:35 |
thinX | can't install the system, not my machine | 09:35 |
DarkED | thinX, the best way to see if it will work, is to download the real installer and install the system | 09:36 |
ccc_ | DarkED: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=38295 | 09:36 |
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DarkED | ccc_, thanks a bunch | 09:36 |
ccc_ | DarkED: np. the screenshot doesn't give much since it's so configurable :) | 09:37 |
DarkED | ccc_, yeah i dont judge by screenshots :D | 09:37 |
DarkED | ccc_, did you just dpkg -i to install it? | 09:38 |
ccc_ | yes | 09:38 |
uwo | hi all. is there a qt mule client? | 09:38 |
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ccc_ | lipstik and plastik are popular too, but i believe both come with kde | 09:39 |
DarkED | ccc_, hmm it says i am missing some kdelibs, which dont exist | 09:40 |
slow-motion | re | 09:41 |
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DarkED | crap | 09:42 |
ccc_ | DarkED: which ones? | 09:42 |
DarkED | ccc_, kdelibs4c2 | 09:42 |
DarkED | ccc_, it says that kdelibs4c2a replaces it, and that there is not kdelibs4c2 | 09:42 |
DarkED | ccc_, qtcurve still wants kdelibs4c2 though :D | 09:43 |
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DarkED | ccc_, you do know what i mean by widgets yes? | 09:45 |
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DarkED | haha nevermind | 09:45 |
DarkED | qtcurve is a style | 09:45 |
DarkED | i need a widget engine | 09:45 |
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kronoz | do any kubuntu repos have the w32codecs package? | 09:46 |
thinX | ok, better question. How many months before kubuntu will just support my vidcard out of the box without any extra hacking around on the users part? 6 months, 9 months, 14? | 09:46 |
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thinX | I've waited 2 years I can wait some more | 09:47 |
thoreauputic | !codecs | 09:47 |
ubotu | Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories | 09:47 |
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thoreauputic | !easysource | 09:47 |
ubotu | For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic | 09:47 |
kronoz | thinX, if you mean nVidia, probably never i think | 09:48 |
thinX | ati actually | 09:49 |
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ccc_ | DarkED: d'oh! sorry mate, misunderstood you there. | 09:50 |
DarkED | ccc_, np :D | 09:50 |
DarkED | ccc_, by widgets i mean little tools/monitors/etc you can put on your desktop | 09:51 |
DarkED | ccc_, look up the yahoo widget engine (aka konfabulator) to see what i mean | 09:51 |
ccc_ | yeah, what you're looking for is probably superkaramba | 09:51 |
kronoz | hmm, source-o-matic is quite cool :) | 09:51 |
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Bizzeh | how do i add mp3 to amrok now? | 09:53 |
Bizzeh | (xine engine) | 09:53 |
kronoz | can you pass an option to sudo to use X like sux? | 09:53 |
thoreauputic | kronoz: kdesu ? | 09:54 |
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Bazzi | uuuh where can I select to get kubuntu from shipit and not ubuntu? | 10:20 |
Bazzi | it currently only offers me ubuntu | 10:20 |
Bazzi | oh, wups, I have to use shipit.kubuntu.org :/ | 10:21 |
menno_ | does anybody know if there is a program for the printer so you can put more pages on one paper (A4)? | 10:23 |
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I_Eat_Plastic | how do I manually change from gnome to kde with synaptic? | 10:28 |
opapo | is there anyone who can access an iseries with kubuntu? | 10:29 |
thoreauputic | I_Eat_Plastic: install kubuntu-desktop | 10:30 |
thoreauputic | I_Eat_Plastic: although that *adds* KDE really | 10:30 |
kbrooks | does kubuntu inclde python-qt? | 10:30 |
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kbrooks | include* | 10:30 |
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I_Eat_Plastic | thoreauputic: so, then I delete gnome. what's the package manager for kde? | 10:31 |
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thoreauputic | I_Eat_Plastic: adept | 10:32 |
I_Eat_Plastic | thanks | 10:32 |
thoreauputic | I_Eat_Plastic: but dleting gnome isn't that easy you know :) | 10:32 |
thoreauputic | *deleting | 10:32 |
I_Eat_Plastic | thoreauputic: how do I go about doing so? | 10:33 |
thoreauputic | also a lot of people prefer synaptic to adept ( I use apt-get ) | 10:33 |
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thoreauputic | I_Eat_Plastic: I never tried it - I guess removing something like libgtk* would do the trick though | 10:34 |
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Bazzi | aptitude should be able to safely remove ubuntu-desktop and dependencies | 10:35 |
thoreauputic | Bazzi: yes, but only if it was installed using aptitude I think | 10:35 |
Bazzi | hm | 10:35 |
thoreauputic | apt-get and aptitude don't talk to each other much ;) | 10:36 |
troy | anyone else having trouble with today's amarok 1.4.0a packages? | 10:36 |
Bazzi | question is on install time, what is used | 10:36 |
thoreauputic | deborphan might be the trick | 10:36 |
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troy | Riddell: are you around? | 10:37 |
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kronoz | i can never open the adept-updater so i just use apt-get | 10:42 |
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Flosoft | hey @ all | 10:43 |
uwo | where is the sources list located? | 10:43 |
kronoz | hi | 10:43 |
kronoz | uwo, /etc/apt/sources.list | 10:43 |
uwo | tnx :) | 10:43 |
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DarkED | is kde very ram-heavy? | 10:54 |
Riddell | troy: I just tried amarok 1.4.0a on amd64 and it works good for me | 10:58 |
DaSkreech | Riddell: I got Amarok 1.4 | 10:59 |
DaSkreech | Thanks | 10:59 |
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DaSkreech | DarkED: If you want it to be :-) | 10:59 |
paulvolk | Hellp I am having trouble with adept | 10:59 |
paulvolk | When I try to open it it gives me the prompt and evrything but when I type in the right password it claims I have to be root or else there is no use in running the program. | 11:00 |
paulvolk | How can I fix it? | 11:00 |
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chx | hi. anyone could tell me quickly how could I determine whether my CPU is 64-bit capable? | 11:02 |
chx | I got a mobile Sempron and have no idea... some desktop Semprons are already 64 bit | 11:02 |
chx | flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm | 11:03 |
chx | that's from cpuinfo | 11:03 |
EvilIdler | Stepping and model? | 11:03 |
chx | stepping 2, model 44 (model name Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+) | 11:03 |
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DarkED | is there any way to get amarok to read my wma to it's collection? | 11:04 |
DaSkreech | DarkED: Do you have 1.4? | 11:04 |
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DarkED | DaSkreech, nope, 1.3.9 | 11:04 |
chx | I see I have SSE3... that's not too bad :) | 11:05 |
DarkED | DaSkreech, does 1.4 do it? | 11:05 |
DaSkreech | Riddell: So 1.4 won't be in the dapper repos? | 11:05 |
DaSkreech | DarkED: si | 11:05 |
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DaSkreech | Check the Kubuntu page | 11:05 |
Riddell | DaSkreech: no | 11:05 |
EvilIdler | chx: Do you see a codename? | 11:05 |
DarkED | DaSkreech, ok thanks | 11:05 |
DaSkreech | Riddell: So no kopete .12 either? | 11:06 |
Riddell | no | 11:06 |
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Bazzi | will they be in ubuntu-backports soon? | 11:06 |
zlack | anyone knows the sollution for kde + xgl and not having borders? | 11:06 |
DaSkreech | *sighs* There will be a kubuntu.org deb release ala Amarok? | 11:06 |
chx | EvilIdler: http://pastebin.com/727226 | 11:06 |
chx | EvilIdler: thanks for your help | 11:06 |
Riddell | DaSkreech: not from me | 11:07 |
Riddell | but it would be good to get into backports | 11:07 |
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EvilIdler | chx: This is actually one of the trickiest things in the world to find out, for some reason :P - what' | 11:09 |
EvilIdler | chx: What is the output from lspci? | 11:09 |
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DaSkreech | I mailed martin on the katapult page | 11:10 |
DaSkreech | I haven't had a reply yet | 11:10 |
chx | EvilIdler: that lahf_lm ... is not that LAHF support in Long Mode ?? | 11:10 |
chx | (where Long Mode is x86-64) | 11:12 |
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EvilIdler | chx: Probably. I think it is 64-bit, since model 43 is A64 dual-core | 11:13 |
nixternal`v2 | wth | 11:13 |
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nixternal`v2 | freenode boots me more than any other irc server i have ever been on | 11:13 |
nixternal`v2 | can't idle i guess ;( | 11:13 |
nixternal`v2 | now i have to wait 2 hours for my other nick to time out | 11:14 |
EvilIdler | chx: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/201 | 11:14 |
EvilIdler | chx: I'd say it is | 11:15 |
aseigo | nixternal`v2: did you register your other nick? | 11:15 |
nixternal`v2 | yup | 11:15 |
aseigo | nixternal`v2: did you try ghost'ing it then? | 11:15 |
nixternal`v2 | linking you mean??? | 11:15 |
aseigo | no | 11:15 |
aseigo | try: /msg nickserv ghost nixternal <your password here> | 11:15 |
nixternal`v2 | speak to me oh wise one | 11:16 |
nixternal`v2 | lemme try | 11:16 |
aseigo | bling | 11:16 |
nixternal`v2 | thank you sir | 11:16 |
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aseigo | you may now hug me. | 11:16 |
nixternal | you are my hero | 11:16 |
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aseigo | huzzah! | 11:16 |
nixternal | haha | 11:16 |
nixternal | i learn something new every 15 seconds | 11:16 |
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aseigo | provies today's "entertainment": http://66.232.104.199/~vidpipe2/comp/28xuqvi/tunaktunaktun_598.wmv | 11:17 |
nixternal | gahaha | 11:17 |
nixternal | that song is still around? | 11:17 |
aseigo | (beware, it may destroy your ability to discern "music" from "random collections of air-borne vibrations") | 11:17 |
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nixternal | dude...i had that freakin' video like 6 years ago | 11:17 |
aseigo | it's a classic though | 11:17 |
nixternal | the colorful indian rox | 11:17 |
nixternal | he is whicked with his pointer finger | 11:18 |
nixternal | ;D | 11:18 |
nixternal | amarok is pissing me off | 11:18 |
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chx | EvilIdler: alas it's not 64 bit | 11:22 |
chx | how could I monitor a nVidia GPU temperature (nvidia proprietary driver) | 11:22 |
DarkED | DaSkreech, thanks for telling me about amarok 1.4 | 11:23 |
EvilIdler | lm-sensors should support all nForce now | 11:23 |
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EvilIdler | chx: Semprons are a pain to identify :/ | 11:23 |
DaSkreech | DarkED: Sure It works now? | 11:23 |
nixternal | yes it does...and nicely i may add | 11:23 |
DarkED | DaSkreech, It's downloading | 11:23 |
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DarkED | DaSkreech, I think I need taglibwma | 11:23 |
DarkED | DaSkreech, or some such | 11:23 |
DarkED | DaSkreech, I'm hoping it comes with what it needs and i can make it work, cause I love amarok | 11:24 |
DarkED | unfortunately half my collection is wma | 11:24 |
DarkED | :D | 11:24 |
DarkED | I think I might just convert all my wma's to mp3's or ogg | 11:25 |
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DarkED | mp3 would be better cause i have an mp3 headunit in my car | 11:25 |
EvilIdler | You'll lose quality that way. Just re-rip. | 11:25 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, cant, dont have the source medium anymore, they were stolen | 11:26 |
kronoz | !m3 | 11:26 |
ubotu | parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kronoz | 11:26 |
themoddingden | hey guys and gals is there a know issue with the logitech mx1000 mouse and sis 191 nic and realtek 8139 nics | 11:26 |
kronoz | !mp3 | 11:26 |
ubotu | somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats | 11:26 |
EvilIdler | DarkED: Anything really hard to find? | 11:26 |
chx | EvilIdler: No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them. despite of [4294685.860000] i2c_adapter i2c-0: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x5000 and [4294685.860000] i2c_adapter i2c-1: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x5040 | 11:26 |
EvilIdler | chx: You need i2c installed. Should be in the default kernel, though | 11:27 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, not particularly but i dont have a steady internet connection and i dont have the money to re-buy 100 or so cd's | 11:27 |
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nixternal | argh | 11:27 |
EvilIdler | DarkED: That's crappy :/ | 11:27 |
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DarkED | EvilIdler, yeah i know, tell that to the guy who stole my cd book out of my car 6 months ago :D | 11:27 |
chx | EvilIdler: uname -a says Linux catv-5062a336 2.6.15-22-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 7 17:27:47 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux and I have installed this with apt | 11:28 |
EvilIdler | I've managed to rebuild a friend's MP3 collection, thanks to us both collecting the same sort of stuff | 11:28 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, now i just use my laptop and run it through my car stereo, its better than carrying around cd's | 11:28 |
EvilIdler | chx: Is it a dual-core? SMP might not be the best kernel if it's not. | 11:29 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, how bad will the quality loss be if i convert a 64kb/s wma to a 128kb/s mp3? | 11:29 |
EvilIdler | DarkED: I've got mainly MP3, Ogg and FLAC myself. Future-proof :) | 11:29 |
EvilIdler | DarkED: You can't take 64kbps from nowhere ;) | 11:29 |
chx | EvilIdler: ah | 11:29 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, ogg is a losless format isnt it? | 11:29 |
EvilIdler | DarkED: First, 64kbps WMA is pretty low bitrate. | 11:30 |
EvilIdler | DarkED: Nope. | 11:30 |
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DarkED | EvilIdler, 64kb/s wma is cd-quality | 11:30 |
EvilIdler | FLAC, APE, SHN are lossless compression | 11:30 |
chx | I am not sure, as said it's apt's choosing :) I have linux-image-2.6.15-22-k7 | 11:30 |
EvilIdler | DarkED: That's what they say..but it's not what my ears hear ;) | 11:30 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, wma's get better quality than mp3 per compression ratio | 11:30 |
themoddingden | anyone ? | 11:30 |
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EvilIdler | And I can promise you that it'll be degraded from recompressing from one lossy to another ;( | 11:30 |
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themoddingden | realtek and sis 191 nic issue? | 11:31 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, can most computer music players play FLAC? | 11:31 |
EvilIdler | DarkED: 128kbps is not CD quality, either. | 11:31 |
themoddingden | lol | 11:31 |
EvilIdler | DarkED: Foobar in Windows, just about anything in Linux etc., and iAudio portable players | 11:31 |
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chx | yes most computer music players do FLAC | 11:31 |
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themoddingden | l8r | 11:32 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, so winamp wont play FLAC? | 11:32 |
EvilIdler | DarkED: It probably will, but Winamp is an incredible resource hog when compared to Foobar | 11:32 |
nixternal | winamp plays everything | 11:32 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, foobar | 11:32 |
nixternal | and if it doesn't...there is a plugin for it somewhere | 11:32 |
DarkED | ok | 11:33 |
DarkED | yeah see the problem i would be faced with | 11:33 |
DarkED | everytime i wanted to burn a music cd or burn an mp3 disc | 11:33 |
DarkED | i would have to convert it again | 11:33 |
DaSkreech | DarkED: Winamp plays anything | 11:33 |
EvilIdler | 64kbps *any* lossy format is good enough for voice, but my ears just can't take it | 11:34 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, ok, one last question, do you know if k3b will burn music from a FLAC? | 11:34 |
DaSkreech | DarkED: Yup it should | 11:35 |
DarkED | DaSkreech, im sold :D | 11:35 |
DaSkreech | DarkED: http://k3b.plainblack.com/requirements | 11:35 |
DaSkreech | FLAC is right ther | 11:35 |
DarkED | yep | 11:35 |
EvilIdler | K3B is all-powerful | 11:35 |
DarkED | hmm ill research this | 11:35 |
DarkED | any mass mp3>flac converters? | 11:36 |
EvilIdler | Err..converting mp3 to FLAC is pretty pointless, too ;) | 11:36 |
DaSkreech | lol | 11:36 |
DaSkreech | mp3->FLAC | 11:36 |
DaSkreech | That's priceless | 11:36 |
EvilIdler | You can't get lost data from nowhere | 11:36 |
EvilIdler | MP3, WMA and Ogg are lossy formats. Their highest quality settings still drop some data. Two turns through any combination of them will start introducing artifacts. | 11:37 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, yeah i know, but i have some 320kb/s mp3's which take up lots of space and would be good flacs | 11:37 |
nixternal | there is a channel for ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, and edubuntu...but none for nubuntu...how come?? nubie is a good one | 11:37 |
EvilIdler | DarkED: What's the point? You can burn directly from MP3 if you need to make CDs for the car | 11:37 |
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DarkED | EvilIdler, yeah | 11:38 |
DarkED | EvilIdler, but i want to be free | 11:38 |
paulvolk | I have a problem with Adept | 11:38 |
DarkED | i gotta run to the sto' | 11:38 |
paulvolk | it won't update anymore | 11:38 |
DarkED | ill brb | 11:38 |
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EvilIdler | Personally, I'd prefer a regular portable player hooked up to a car-stereo. There are stereos that take inputs, and devices to get around it if not | 11:38 |
DaSkreech | DarkED: .ogg :) | 11:39 |
paulvolk | It claims there are no updates but I know that there are. | 11:39 |
DarkED | DaSkreech, yeah | 11:39 |
paulvolk | I don't get why it is not working | 11:39 |
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EvilIdler | I play my oggs in a Nintendo DS while on the move :) | 11:39 |
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andreasc89 | how do I mount a pcmcia drive? | 11:40 |
andreasc89 | sudo mount and then? | 11:40 |
EvilIdler | andreasc89: dmesg should be able to tell you what device it's on, if it's detected | 11:41 |
nixternal | dmesg | 11:41 |
nixternal | grrr | 11:41 |
slow-motion | n8 | 11:41 |
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andreasc89 | http://images.google.se/images?q=322rc2&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi | 11:41 |
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andreasc89 | oh, sry | 11:42 |
andreasc89 | [4295841.690000] [<e030846b>] pcmcia_device_probe+0x6b/0x120 [pcmcia] | 11:42 |
andreasc89 | what does that mean? | 11:42 |
nixternal | it means it sees it | 11:42 |
EvilIdler | nixternal: Invest in a direct brainlink | 11:42 |
andreasc89 | ok, and how do I mount it? | 11:42 |
nixternal | look for somethign along the line of /dev/.... | 11:42 |
EvilIdler | Beyond that, I can't tell what device it is | 11:42 |
nixternal | hey EvilIdler...can you get one of those direct brainlinks on ebay? | 11:43 |
nixternal | ;D | 11:43 |
andreasc89 | [4295980.861000] pccard: card ejected from slot 0 | 11:43 |
nixternal | it sees it | 11:43 |
andreasc89 | yeah | 11:43 |
nixternal | what kind of card is it? | 11:43 |
andreasc89 | a CF | 11:43 |
andreasc89 | in a adapter | 11:43 |
EvilIdler | nixternal: DIY only, I'm afraid. Dunno how well it works with a human brain, though | 11:43 |
nixternal | haha | 11:43 |
andreasc89 | just unmounted it | 11:43 |
andreasc89 | and then put it in again | 11:43 |
EvilIdler | andreasc89: It'll be a SCSI-like device, then. Try mounting as /dev/sda1 | 11:43 |
andreasc89 | and now it's not on the desktop :S | 11:43 |
nixternal | lol | 11:44 |
DaSkreech | Is there an Xnest for Kubuntu? | 11:44 |
nixternal | i love when it works like that | 11:44 |
nixternal | everyone of my pen drives acts like that | 11:44 |
andreasc89 | mount: you must specify the filesystem type | 11:44 |
andreasc89 | how do I specify the file system= | 11:44 |
nixternal | have you formated it? | 11:44 |
nixternal | is it fat32, ntfs, ext2, ext3, reiser | 11:45 |
nixternal | vfat | 11:45 |
nixternal | raw | 11:45 |
EvilIdler | andreasc89: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint -t fat32, for example | 11:45 |
nixternal | i can keep goin' | 11:45 |
andreasc89 | thx | 11:45 |
nixternal | that is if it is fat32 | 11:45 |
nixternal | speaking of htat...if you mount it under a differnt iso or fat...and write to it...can it hurt the drive or just the file? | 11:46 |
nixternal | when i mean drive...the allocation table..not physical | 11:46 |
EvilIdler | It won't mount if there's no recognised filesystem | 11:46 |
nixternal | for instance...we used to mount old tape drives....and we had a tech mount it wrong...file system type....and wrote to it...we couldn't get anything to recognize th disk afterwards | 11:47 |
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nixternal | as a matter of fact...the moron that did that is im'n me right now | 11:47 |
nixternal | LOL | 11:47 |
EvilIdler | nixternal: How did he manage that? | 11:47 |
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nixternal | he force it some how...i can't remember...it has been...hell 8 years or more | 11:48 |
DaSkreech | Riddell: Is there a planned Xnest for Kubuntu? | 11:48 |
Riddell | ? | 11:48 |
Riddell | sudo apt-get install xnest | 11:48 |
EvilIdler | I think there's protection against it now, for the most part, but tape drives aren't usually mounted | 11:48 |
nixternal | well...this was an old sony...and i....i remember....in order for it to get picked up with the sunstore information system....i remember now | 11:49 |
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nixternal | he set up to do a mount his own way...that is what killed it | 11:49 |
EvilIdler | Ouch. How expensive was the data? :) | 11:50 |
nixternal | he screwed up everything...i remember now...omg that was a bad day | 11:50 |
nixternal | well....the data store was for a 100,000+ square foot data center....owned by what we refer to as gayT&T | 11:50 |
EvilIdler | That's the 'nix way; always more than one way to mess something up | 11:50 |
nixternal | haha right | 11:51 |
nixternal | he was paranoid that he was gonna get fired | 11:51 |
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EvilIdler | Hehe | 11:51 |
nixternal | we did end up getting fired | 11:51 |
nixternal | we ran 50 game servers over oc192 | 11:52 |
EvilIdler | Owie | 11:52 |
nixternal | it took them 1 year to locate um | 11:52 |
nixternal | we had them hidden in the false floor | 11:52 |
nixternal | there were people in australia playing on a chicago based server with 40 and 50 pings | 11:52 |
nixternal | oh but when they found them...they came down on us hard | 11:52 |
nixternal | they had crazy online info about us.... | 11:53 |
EvilIdler | Serves you right, subversive hacker types :P | 11:53 |
nixternal | lol | 11:53 |
DaSkreech | So Kubuntu won't be shipping with a XNest option in teh menus? :-( | 11:53 |
DarkED | is there any way to make easytag read wma's? | 11:53 |
DaSkreech | Man that's useful | 11:53 |
nixternal | it was one server that got us popped off | 11:53 |
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nixternal | a freakin' .... ummm....everquest on a win2k server | 11:53 |
robotgeek | DaSkreech: dunno if easytag is compiled with support for wmas | 11:53 |
robotgeek | DaSkreech: why not just use amarok? | 11:53 |
nixternal | go figure...they hax0red the win2k server to bust us...the nix boxes were strong | 11:53 |
EvilIdler | Oh, so that's where the free server went.. | 11:54 |
DaSkreech | robotgeek: Wrong Da :) | 11:54 |
nixternal | lol | 11:54 |
robotgeek | DaSkreech: sorry | 11:54 |
zvi | hey guys | 11:54 |
robotgeek | DarkED: why not just use amarok? | 11:54 |
nixternal | omg | 11:54 |
nixternal | i am looking at the xnest wiki | 11:54 |
DarkED | robotgeek, uh easytag takes much less time | 11:54 |
zvi | does somebody know how to "refresh" clockapplet with dcop? | 11:54 |
nixternal | it reminds me to much of solaris back in the early 90's | 11:54 |
zvi | I need it for shell script | 11:55 |
DaSkreech | DarkED: You can do multiple edits at a time in Amarok | 11:55 |
nixternal | the clock is eerie | 11:55 |
DaSkreech | Unless you are scripting this | 11:55 |
zvi | to automate some post adjustments | 11:55 |
wasp_ems | hello..i have a problem with kopete..whenever i try to configure it..by clicking on configuration it closes and i get an error in konqueror..also if i try to run my webcam then it crashes and the whole system freezes..any ideas? | 11:55 |
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DarkED | DaSkreech, yeah but easytag will automatically arrange filenames/tracktags for you :D | 11:55 |
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DaSkreech | DarkED: again? What? | 11:55 |
DaSkreech | http://k3b.plainblack.com/requirements | 11:56 |
DaSkreech | Kool :-) | 11:56 |
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DaSkreech | Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" Development Branch \n \l | 11:56 |
zvi | nixternal: the clock is what? :) | 11:57 |
nixternal | scarry looking | 11:57 |
nixternal | that old analog clock | 11:57 |
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zvi | nixternal: ok | 11:59 |
zvi | any ides about dcop signals? | 11:59 |
zvi | ideas? | 11:59 |
nixternal | bbiab | 11:59 |
nixternal | l8r | 11:59 |
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